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You're very welcome. I am a big fan too. This is Dependant on you as a client, I have received DFK from all the Allure girls I have seen, as long as you are polite, clean etc then there's no reason why you shouldn't receive it as well. There also has to be a connection, at least that's the way I think the girls see it. DFK from other WG's can be hit and miss, however when I used to see cheaper girls in the mistaken belief I'd get as good service for less the WG's invariably did not kiss (despite my high level of hygiene etc), even though they always said they did on their profile.
Thanks a lot for your info Abox79 and Jojosun.
Does DFK include in the price? Put it this way, in Great Britain, do the WGs usually do DFK? Because I am a big fan of DFK (i.e. GFE).
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Dear friends,
I am scheduled to come to London shortly for 4 days and am building a data base before arriving there, will appreciate if you could kindly provide some tried and tested leads for the same.
I will be staying at Hotel Ramada South Ruislip HA4.
I will reciprocate the same with contacts in Mumbai.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Dulip.
SL Mmonger
05-24-16, 19:30
Hello,
If you get any good leads, will you be able to share with me? I'm planning to travel to London in July.
As of now by reading the London page I have found few contacts in adultwork site.
Dear friends,
I am scheduled to come to London shortly for 4 days and am building a data base before arriving there, will appreciate if you could kindly provide some tried and tested leads for the same.
I will be staying at Hotel Ramada South Ruislip HA4.
I will reciprocate the same with contacts in Mumbai.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Dulip.
Fantastic!
Except that when I click on the links they say 'Annabella's Escorts Milton Keynes'. Milton Keynes is 54 miles, that is an hour and 15 minutes drive, from London and this is the London thread.
Back to square one I guess.But only half an hour by train from Euston, much less than many parts of London.
You're very welcome. I am a big fan too. This is Dependant on you as a client, I have received DFK from all the Allure girls I have seen, as long as you are polite, clean etc then there's no reason why you shouldn't receive it as well. There also has to be a connection, at least that's the way I think the girls see it. DFK from other WG's can be hit and miss, however when I used to see cheaper girls in the mistaken belief I'd get as good service for less the WG's invariably did not kiss (despite my high level of hygiene etc), even though they always said they did on their profile.Thanks very much for your info Abox79.
But only half an hour by train from Euston, much less than many parts of London.Agreed. "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the mountain. ".
And if the girls won't come to London then JOJO must go to MK or any incalls, parlors Close to London if the price & quality is right.
The links with photos to the girls you refer to, show them in MK but I mongered with most of them when they were working in London. When 3 or 4.
Hotties weren't available in London, I took the fast direct train to Milton Keynes and the clean, tidy new apartments were close to the station.
Q&A "How long does it take to travel from Milton Keynes Central to London Euston by train? The average journey time between Milton Keynes Central and London Euston is 39 minutes. On an average weekday, there are 180 trains per day travelling from Milton Keynes Central to London Euston."
But I guess with some even if the said girls were in London, they will come up with another negative or 2 ,like one can't just walk in without an appointment to inspect the girls before buying or maybe the girls won't offer certain services of the kind on offer at certain Clubs ((AO) in Germany.
Of course that's just a matter of preference and each to their own, But its hardly a cause for a Crusade against the great mongering opportunities for Safer Sex in London and this what matters most for me.
Dear friends,
I am scheduled to come to London shortly for 4 days and am building a data base before arriving there, will appreciate if you could kindly provide some tried and tested leads for the same.
I will be staying at Hotel Ramada South Ruislip HA4.
I will reciprocate the same with contacts in Mumbai.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Dulip.One of the beauties of London being the capital of the world for its mongering variety, its the city where one can bang almost any ethnicity, nationality under the sun.
Here is one Brothel, Parlor in central London within easy reach from your base where its only Girls from the subcontinent working there.
Personally I've never tried it but maybe a monger familiar with mongering in India can dip his toes in their water and report back so one get an idea for comparison purposes & to find out if there are gems. I never read any report on this place on this thread before so its new exotic place for someone to explore.
BTW, this place been going for few years but its the safest kinda of sex on offer there from what I read. . Guys looking for BBFS, DATY, BBBJ need not bother Knocking on their Door.
http://www.indian-palace.com/
LOL Indian and Pakistani girls get shagged under the same roofs in London.
But only half an hour by train from Euston, much less than many parts of London.LOL Milton Keynes should be elevated to the Status of a city on account of its sex scene and what's on offer there.
the fact that either London is too scare for mongering opportunities or the forum here just does not live up to its billing. I am going to explore it though and will report the goods and bads of my experience..Hi Sarnash,
None of that.
LOL Just don't listen to the very few Empty Barrels who make the loudest noises on here & you'll enjoy London and this forum.
Invest a bit of time reading back few pages & ask questions here.
I have being to this place Indian palace when it was operating from Holborn a few times. I must say the girls are beautiful however their service is not that's great. They just want to add up sells and finish off soon.
Last year I called them and they stopped incalls. Not sure it's back on now.
I am exploring AW regularly now and do find some gems.
One of the beauties of London being the capital of the world for its mongering variety, its the city where one can bang almost any ethnicity, nationality under the sun.
Here is one Brothel, Parlor in central London within easy reach from your base where its only Girls from the subcontinent working there.
Personally I've never tried it but maybe a monger familiar with mongering in India can dip his toes in their water and report back so one get an idea for comparison purposes & to find out if there are gems. I never read any report on this place on this thread before so its new exotic place for someone to explore.
BTW, this place been going for few years but its the safest kinda of sex on offer there from what I read. . Guys looking for BBFS, DATY, BBBJ need not bother Knocking on their Door.
http://www.indian-palace.com/
LOL Indian and Pakistani girls get shagged under the same roofs in London.
AW is your best friend.
I was in Mumbai last week and will be back to London next week. Happy to catch up.
Dear friends,
I am scheduled to come to London shortly for 4 days and am building a data base before arriving there, will appreciate if you could kindly provide some tried and tested leads for the same.
I will be staying at Hotel Ramada South Ruislip HA4.
I will reciprocate the same with contacts in Mumbai.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Dulip.
LustyMan100
05-29-16, 11:44
Preamble.
After a couple of simulated orgies at Phoenix, my mind craved for some one on one action. However, due to an avalanche of work, I was completely buried under it to find time for myself. Also it was not only the work which was unforgiving. It is safe to say that as a cosmopolitan behemoth, your SMV (Sexual Market Value) is severely undermined in London. Whether it is the sweet Russian receptionist or the hot intern with the perfect ponytail and librarian glasses across the desk, there is far too much competition to manage a fling with them. The scene outside your office is even more depressing. The number of pretty ladies with lissome figures and pronounced cheekbones are abundant around you. But they all have an icy attitude that will rival the miserable weather around you.
Introduction.
It is then sites like this and other punting websites come as a godsend to you. Hundreds of punters have painstakingly put together a guide worthy of an almanac, that has shepherded the likes of us to find a suitable lady. A lady who value your time and do not have a personality of a doormat. So while skimming through a punting site I was able zero it down to Lucy (with a couple of backup plans) . She was quite expensive where an hour with them was almost equivalent to a couple of hours at Phoenix. But she built up a reputation through various recorded experiences here which guaranteed a near perfect experience. There is also a rather conscious decision for me to chose her..Hi,
Can you share her contact. I am planning to be in London next week and looking for good time.
I have being to this place Indian palace when it was operating from Holborn a few times. I must say the girls are beautiful however their service is not that's great. They just want to add up sells and finish off soon.
Last year I called them and they stopped incalls. Not sure it's back on now.
I am exploring AW regularly now and do find some gems.On their site it says incalls are still available. In the interest of research only, how do their girls compare with girls in Mumbai re, Looks, Prices, services, etc?
LustyMan100
06-01-16, 02:13
Can someone help me with Phoenix. I want to know is it a sure shot place or is it that one has to take efforts to efforts. It's website says ratio of 2:1.
Hi,
Have been a silent reader of this forum. Am in London for a week. Looking for some fun. Could anyone share some contacts.
Thanks.
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Just bought subscription. Please provide info on London scene.
Can someone help me with Phoenix. I want to know is it a sure shot place or is it that one has to take efforts to efforts. It's website says ratio of 2:1.It's all you can eat system. You won't be able to eat as much as it is on offer.
LustyMan100
06-03-16, 16:36
It's all you can eat system. You won't be able to eat as much as it is on offer.If something like that is available then why waste money on indes? Won't it be better to have multiple fun?
Last week visited Miss E at Bayswater who is an Independent and provides Tantric massage.
She is extremely professional and had a wonderful time with her, her body sliding up and down and thereafter when she was playing with the warm oil over my marbles the sensation and feelings were out of the world.
Turnover and full view of her naked oily body sliding is a memory too fond.
Kissing her soft gentle lips was a delight, which lips you ask, both!
Then she took my tool in both hands and massaged it till the last drop was out.
Will I repeat. For sure and any members wanting her details send me a PM and will provide details.
She is a gem to be tried.
If something like that is available then why waste money on indes? Won't it be better to have multiple fun?Not everyone likes to F In public and be serviced at the same time than another punter by the same girl.
Drove past the famous Kings Cross pub the Flying Scotsman last week and saw it has been reinstated as a normal pub. For decades this had been a strip joint. Free entry and a 1 in the girls glass jar. It harked back to the days of the Cross being a full on Red Light area. Was also a pick up joint for many a SW. Anyone know where the girls are now working from or any similar establishments?
Drove past the famous Kings Cross pub the Flying Scotsman last week and saw it has been reinstated as a normal pub. For decades this had been a strip joint. Free entry and a 1 in the girls glass jar. It harked back to the days of the Cross being a full on Red Light area. Was also a pick up joint for many a SW. Anyone know where the girls are now working from or any similar establishments?Browns in Shoreditch, and some others.
Read back a few posts, and see JJs' s posts.
Can someone help me with Phoenix. I want to know is it a sure shot place or is it that one has to take efforts to efforts. It's website says ratio of 2:1.If it's any good will be listed on adultwork website or McCoys website, spends all his time checking brothels and parlors and hookers and checks and verify them and grades them.
You do not have private messaging privileges. But I am interested in your Bayswater lady.
Last week visited Miss E at Bayswater who is an Independent and provides Tantric massage.
She is extremely professional and had a wonderful time with her, her body sliding up and down and thereafter when she was playing with the warm oil over my marbles the sensation and feelings were out of the world.
Turnover and full view of her naked oily body sliding is a memory too fond.
Kissing her soft gentle lips was a delight, which lips you ask, both!
Then she took my tool in both hands and massaged it till the last drop was out.
Will I repeat. For sure and any members wanting her details send me a PM and will provide details.
She is a gem to be tried.
Hi Alan,
I do have private messaging.
Anyhow have sent you details on your PM.
Enjoy.
If it's any good will be listed on adultwork website or McCoys website, spends all his time checking brothels and parlors and hookers and checks and verify them and grades them.You are talking absolute rubbish about things you know nothing about (just as you are on the Greece forum).
Phoenix, yes, it's a sure shot, and no, it won't be advertised on AW and is highly unlikely to be advertised on that scoundrel McCoy's site. Been in business a long time and they run a very good ship. They don't need to advertise.
LustyMan100
06-10-16, 20:25
Had spent good time in London. Summary:
Day 1: Soho - 40 buck total waste of time. After that went step club which was again waste of time for me. Girls wanted to give attention only to whites.
Day 2 - 4 - Charlotte escorts good girls but all of them were in terrible hurry and want to be direct in action.
Day 5: Adultworks. Maya due to closeness. Total waste of time and money.
I guess mongering is not for me.
BigTitsLover86
06-10-16, 23:15
Hello guys,
I will visit London soon, I want to know what are the verified escort websites to check online before I came.
I have checked some of the websites but I saw some fake photos for the girls.
Do you recommend Agencies or Independent? As London seems to be so expensive for the escort services compared to Barcelona.
Hello guys,
As you can read my title, I am a new ladies in London, just arrived few days ago.
I will visit London soon.
I have checked some of the websites but for you, what is the best to display my services?
XoXo
Hong Kong Boy
06-15-16, 04:29
Have anyone try Dollsandrose escort. Are they any good?
Hello guys,
As you can read my title, I am a new ladies in London, just arrived few days ago.
I will visit London soon.
I have checked some of the websites but for you, what is the best to display my services?
XoXoYou need to make yourself understood first?
You need to make yourself understood first?I think she needs to go to the Classified section of the UK forum.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1227-Classified-Ads-Independent-Escorts-Only!
Hello guys,
I will visit London soon, I want to know what are the verified escort websites to check online before I came.
I have checked some of the websites but I saw some fake photos for the girls.
Do you recommend Agencies or Independent? As London seems to be so expensive for the escort services compared to Barcelona.Indeed, London is not that cheap by European standards. Fake photos are quite common. Of agencies, House of Divine has a reliable reputation and has centrally located incalls easy to reach by Tube (London Metro). They are mid-range but reasonable at the price. The main site advertising Independents in the UK is Adultwork, but sifting and choosing is a bit of an art in itself. There are thousands there, so no rule about fakes and genuines, and it's a self-registering website based abroad, taking a cut when the escorts purchase extra services or promotions. There are bargains to be had but it's a numbers game mostly and if you are not familiar with London it's a lot of travelling to factor in or else pay extra gambling on an outcall to your hotel. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
BigTitsLover86
06-17-16, 14:55
Indeed, London is not that cheap by European standards. Fake photos are quite common. Of agencies, House of Divine has a reliable reputation and has centrally located incalls easy to reach by Tube (London Metro). They are mid-range but reasonable at the price. The main site advertising Independents in the UK is Adultwork, but sifting and choosing is a bit of an art in itself. There are thousands there, so no rule about fakes and genuines, and it's a self-registering website based abroad, taking a cut when the escorts purchase extra services or promotions. There are bargains to be had but it's a numbers game mostly and if you are not familiar with London it's a lot of travelling to factor in or else pay extra gambling on an outcall to your hotel. Good luck and let us know how you get on.Thanks bro,
I have checked the following sites, so If anyway had tried it please let me know:
http://www.angelsoflondon.com/
http://abby69escort.com/projects
http://www.silverfoxescorts.co.uk/londonescortmodels.html
http://www.admiralescorts.com/london-escorts.php
http://www.eternitygirls.com/london-escorts
Like everyone else. Just got here and looking for petite Howie that can sped an hour with me sometime this week. I'm north of London bear Hatfield with not much transportation and really can do incall.
Any help or suggestions would be great.
Thanks.
Moved on to The Griffen Club and what a great line up of girls there. http://thegriffinstripclub.co.uk/gallery.
There are some stunner there, Sarah Brazillian who knows how to get her way with very sexy dances, Kimmi a very attractive Black British, and a sexy girl by the name Chilli.
Again Free entry.
Few Buds had a great time as the $$ is in a strong shape &winnings the night before and hired a strip limo. Highly recommended http://lapdancelimohire.co.uk/lapdance-gallery-limo.html.
Very full on nude dances.There are few strippers who would also escort for the right price if one shows his face often and buys private dances.
One such girl who used to dance at one of the Shoreditch clubs is Jai. Link to this Profile Page using http://www.adultwork.com/3034662 or http://www.adultwork.com/Jai%5F%5Fx .
With a 3 some with her friend it works out just £100 more expensive than what she used to ask for at the club before she got the sack for doing so.
http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3581161
There is a venue where FS on site is available with strippers but its not open for everyone to just walk in.
For my money, the best value for a night out is in Soho. There is a strip club called Sunset Strip which I usually go to for a few drinks and a lap dance to get me into the mood before finishing of in a Walk up, usually £25 for a CBJ or CFS. There are plenty of different types to choose from, I especially like the "oriental Girl" in the one nearest to the Leicester Square Tube station.
There are few strippers who would also escort for the right price if one shows his face often and buys private dances.
With a 3 some with her friend it works out just 100 more expensive than what she used to ask for at the club before she got the sack for doing so.
There is a venue where FS on site is available with strippers but its not open for everyone to just walk in.Yes, of course there is, and there is no need to tell us what that place is because of course we know where it is. Don't we. Er, don't we?
Also why would anyone want to spend 20 pounds several times in an evening for 3 minutes of dancing each time, just so that that they could then get the privilege of asking a girl if she wants to have sex for another 100 - 300 pounds? Especially if the girls ends up losing her job as a result?
Hong Kong Boy
06-20-16, 03:28
Try dolls android last night. Get Antisin too much photoshop, site said early 20's. I think late 30's.
Looks not bad for a lady in the 30's. No DFK, BJ with the hand mostly. Not worth the £600.
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There are few strippers who would also escort for the right price if one shows his face often and buys private dances.
One such girl who used to dance at one of the Shoreditch clubs is Jai. Link to this Profile Page using http://www.adultwork.com/3034662 or http://www.adultwork.com/Jai%5F%5Fx .
With a 3 some with her friend it works out just 100 more expensive than what she used to ask for at the club before she got the sack for doing so.
http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3581161
There is a venue where FS on site is available with strippers but its not open for everyone to just walk in.Private dances at the clubs above and at the Griffen club are £10 up to 5 pm and £15 after. Free entry and only £1 in the jug for each girl as they go on stage dancing nude, normal bar prices.
Some guys actually enjoy the excitement and anticipation of scoring a stripper and are prepared to spend money, different tastes, different budgets, it happens, others are happy just to watch nude dancing and flirt with the girls. If that's very difficult for some to comprehend, then the idea of going to Gangbang, Bareback, AO Parties sounds simply Bizarre to me and something I would avoid like the plague even if they paid me. That said, its their money their choice and I fully respect that, But I won't bang any girl who barebacks nor will I go to venues where BB Sex is on offer, nor will I share info with guys who are into BB Sex.
Moved on to The Griffen Club and what a great line up of girls there.
There are some stunner there, Sarah Brazillian who knows how to get her way with very sexy dances, Kimmi a very attractive Black British, and a sexy girl by the name Chilli.
Again Free entry.
Few Buds had a great time as the $$ is in a strong shape &winnings the night before and hired a strip limo. Highly recommended http://lapdancelimohire.co.uk/lapdance-gallery-limo.html.
Very full on nude dances.Is it just my imagination or has there seem to have been a large number of posts about table dancing recently in this thread?
Of course it's up to guys how they spend their money and if they want to spend 500 pounds each time to get themselves in the mood, before they then pay some more to get laid then up to them. Maybe there are a lot of guys getting 'winnings' every night, LOL.
However I was under the impression that the motto of this forum was that it was a forum for men looking to have sex with women. So not the internationaldanceguide as of this point in time?
Is it just my imagination or has there seem to have been a large number of posts about table dancing recently in this thread?
Of course it's up to guys how they spend their money and if they want to spend 500 pounds each time to get themselves in the mood, before they then pay some more to get laid then up to them. Maybe there are a lot of guys getting 'winnings' every night, LOL.
However I was under the impression that the motto of this forum was that it was a forum for men looking to have sex with women. So not the internationaldanceguide as of this point in time?Lucky,
You are not the moderator of this forum, so we can enjoy discussing what we want without your approval. I still don't understand why you have to come here and grumble. You obvious have enough to talk about in your numerous German AO adventures.
Myrrh does have a valid point. The fact that the reports are about lapdance at huge cost reflects the poor value in London and the poor choice for sex.
The reason I come here and grumble :) is that I can't accept the poor pay sex scene in the UK and keep hoping it will get better.
There must be many cheaper options available. Even in Finland you can get FS from a Czech girl for 100 euros.
Myrrh does have a valid point. The fact that the reports are about lapdance at huge cost reflects the poor value in London and the poor choice for sex.
The reason I come here and grumble :) is that I can't accept the poor pay sex scene in the UK and keep hoping it will get better.My earlier post may have been couched in terms which were a little more pointed than needed but was done to reinforce a serious issue.
I myself at one time got drawn into the habit of going to lap dancing clubs on a regular basis because there were no other real entertainment possibilities.
I don't particularly like going to an apartment, doing the deed and then your back on the street after an hour. Your evening's over before it has really began. I much prefer going some place where I can relax over a few hours with drinks and choose from a few women after I have had the opportunity to see whether I have any real rapport with them. That's where lapdancing clubs come in. Except they don't offer any sex. Not really. Yes, there are guys on here who boast of how they have had sex with strippers but any provision of sex has to be very much on the low indeed otherwise the establishment will be closed down. For the police it is easy work. Which probably explains why the member who disclosed that there is a place in London where you can have FS with strippers was not so forthcoming in telling us where it is.
I am just envious of those lucky guys in countries where on a Friday evening they can openly head down to their local sauna / massage club with their work mate (or even boss) for a few hours relaxation followed by guaranteed sex and then openly chat about it the following Monday.
I have been in the situation myself where I have been to a lapdancing club a few times and showered money on a particular girl, who became acknowledged by the staff as my 'favorite girl' and after countless wads of money had been handed over she has hinted at taking things further. But it didn't materialize either because her demands were not realistic or she just led me up the garden path with promises which never quite saw the light of day. However maybe if I had taken her for just a few more table dances or another visit to the VIP area then maybe things would have been different? Who knows. Well maybe next time. Er, no!
Getting into the habit of going regularly to these clubs as your main 'sexual' outlet can be seriously injurious to your wealth!
Just to clarify the East End Clubs mentioned below & The Griffen Strip Clubs are all Table dancing clubs whether on stage or in the private areas as such clubs not licensed for Lap dances. Table dancing is non-contact even in a private area.
In the West End Clubs where some offer Lap Dances in private areas, cost £20 per dance. "An upclose and full contact dance with an individual customer that involves physical touch, sitting on or straddling a customers lap, and grinding."
In theory the customer is not allowed to touch the dancer whilst she's sitting on his lap grinding and pushing.
Useful link here for guys from outside The UK & LOL, others who are seasoned Lurkers on here. http://ethicalstripper.com/site/resources/lip-glossary/.
For others who were Whinging about "The Huge Costs" of going to such clubs in East London which are free entry & normal bar prices, they can try cutting costs and dodge the £1 collection Jug by becoming a "Jug Dodger.
This is a punter who knows he must put a pound in the jug but goes all out to avoid paying. Dancers are adept at spotting jug dodgers who's behavior will give him away. He will suddenly be going to the toilet or out to smoke when you are collecting and as soon as he hears the dancer announced on stage he will suddenly appear back in the pub, at the front of the stage."
I have been in the situation myself where I have been to a lapdancing club a few times and showered money on a particular girl, who became acknowledged by the staff as my 'favorite girl' and after countless wads of money had been handed over she has hinted at taking things further. But it didn't materialize either because her demands were not realistic or she just led me up the garden path with promises which never quite saw the light of day. However maybe if I had taken her for just a few more table dances or another visit to the VIP area then maybe things would have been different? Who knows. Well maybe next time. Er, no!
Getting into the habit of going regularly to these clubs as your main 'sexual' outlet can be seriously injurious to your wealth!The tactic for this was look for the stripper who did not have many private strips and proposition her. However it would be unlikely that she would be the top girl there (as they always get clients) but as stripping and nose candy go hand in hand there is always a chance that a deal could be struck with a 6 or 7 out of 10 who viewed herself as free spirited party girl. It is not the best and ideal way to get a semi Pro but if you like challenges it always give you that!
The reason I come here and grumble :) is that I can't accept the poor pay sex scene in the UK and keep hoping it will get better.Some might say what's the point in logging on here to grumble. We already know that the London market is restricted because of antiquated laws, which are unlikely to change anytime soon, so why complain?
Well it makes you feel better to complain for a start. Also there are several members on here who say that the sex scene in London is as good if not better than any abroad but are not exactly forthcoming when it comes to details.
If they could be encouraged to be more open about the possibilities, like members are on other threads, then perhaps we would not get the same recurring complaints about the limited London sex scene?
Visited her at a decent heartthrob hotel. Decent room little unorganized but the beautiful little made up for all that. She is around 20. Perfect in shape to my liking. Only draw back being she is not into DFK. Gave an amazing BJ. I. E. OWO. Had her Wot. Miss. And lot of licking. Thoroughly enjoyed her company. Paid 180 for 2 hrs.
Looks 8/10.
Service 8/10.
WIR- yes.
Found her contact on AW.
Lucky,
grumble. enough to talk about numerous German AO adventures.Hi Dreams,
I consider myself very lucky enjoying the delights of mongering in London whenever I can. It also helps as I always look on the bright side, But some people are always grumbling because Roses have thorns, I am thankful that Thorns have roses.
Enjoy it while it lasts as I give it a maximum another 2 years now Brits have voted to leave The EU. The years of plentiful, cheap, readily available EE.
Girls will come to an end. You've never had it so good since EE Countries, Poland, Hungary, Romania among others joined the EU and massive numbers.
Of their WGS landed in London. LOL Price of sex for Seniors as cheap as FF, Chips outcall as well for £2. 50: "One said: "The old blokes round here think all their birthdays have come at once. Prostitutes offering pensioners cut price door to door thrills "http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sex-for-250-prostitutes-offering-pensioners-1335168..
It doesn't look that bright on the horizon In Germany either. By 1 July 2017 according to new laws the days of BBBJ and cheap fixed rate buffet AO Parties which are true adventures will come to an end with many restrictions on WGS and FKK clubs as well.
Visited her at a decent heartthrob hotel. Decent room little unorganized but the beautiful little made up for all that. She is around 20. Perfect in shape to my liking. Only draw back being she is not into DFK. Gave an amazing BJ. I. E. OWO. Had her Wot. Miss. And lot of licking. Thoroughly enjoyed her company. Paid 180 for 2 hrs.
Looks 8/10.
Service 8/10.
WIR- yes.
Found her contact on AW.I bet Cleo is EE, Polish, Hungarian, Romanian at such a price.
When you return to see her, perhaps do her a big favor and explain to her now UK voted for Brexit, that if she wants to work in London come July 2018 and after, then she needs to hurry up register herself as self employed (Prostitution is legal in The UK) pay taxes and apply for Naturalization as a UK Citizen.
EU&UK Citizen, Cleo will have the best of both worlds.
LOL Don't forget to ask her for a discount for your advice and as a repeat monger.
Visited her at a decent heartthrob hotel. Decent room little unorganized but the beautiful little made up for all that. She is around 20. Perfect in shape to my liking. Only draw back being she is not into DFK. Gave an amazing BJ. I. E. OWO. Had her Wot. Miss. And lot of licking. Thoroughly enjoyed her company. Paid 180 for 2 hrs.
Looks 8/10.
Service 8/10.
WIR- yes.
Found her contact on AW.You could've posted the link. LOL For the benefit of some who Grumble about not getting full details. http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=2861510 http://www.adultwork.com/2861510 or http://www.adultwork.com/Naughty+Teen+Cleo.
Well it looks like you got a bargain as she's now in Peterborough charging £220/2 hours, English as well as a Lap Dancer.
Who can grumble about that.
LOL Price of sex for Seniors as cheap as FF, Chips, outcall Sex for £2. 50 a time : "One said: "The old blokes round here think all their birthdays have come at once. Prostitutes offering pensioners cut price door to door thrills "http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...oners-1335168..
It doesn't look that bright on the horizon In Germany either. By 1 July 2017 according to new laws the days of BBBJ and cheap fixed rate buffet AO
Parties which are true adventures will come to an end with many restrictions on WGS and FKK clubs as well . Relevant details here on the new laws in
Germany . " The new laws include guidelines for registration, health counseling, labor conditions and mandatory usage of condoms. Operators of brothels, trailers and escort services would also have to commit to a minimum number of personnel and standards on hygiene and security. The regulation would also prohibit practices and "offers often called 'flat-rate sex' or 'gang bangs.' http://www.dw.com/en/germany-plans-new-law-to-protect-prostitutes/a-19020747 No glove, no love...Here is another link with full details on the £2.50 a pop.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/934981/hookers-offering-pensioners-sex-for-just-2-50-a-time/
"Hookers are offering sex for £2.50 a time to pensioners residents said there were four different women involved. The callers are.
Said to be in their twenties and described as "clean and well dressed".
BigTitsLover86
06-27-16, 00:41
Hello mongers,
I coming soon to London, I've found nice ladies on AD website.
Is it safe to book a lady from this website (They are all fully verified members)?
Please let me know your experience.
Thanks.
Hi Dreams,
I consider myself very lucky enjoying the delights of mongering in London whenever I can. It also helps as I always look on the bright side, But some people are always grumbling because Roses have thorns, I am thankful that Thorns have roses.
Enjoy it while it lasts as I give it a maximum another 2 years now Brits have voted to leave The EU. The years of plentiful, cheap, readily available EE.
Girls will come to an end. You've never had it so good since EE Countries, Poland, Hungary, Romania among others joined the EU and massive numbers.
Of their WGS landed in London. LOL Price of sex for Seniors as cheap as FF, Chips outcall as well for 2. 50: "One said: "The old blokes round here think all their birthdays have come at once. Prostitutes offering pensioners cut price door to door thrills "http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sex-for-250-prostitutes-offering-pensioners-1335168..
It doesn't look that bright on the horizon In Germany either. By 1 July 2017 according to new laws the days of BBBJ and cheap fixed rate buffet AO Parties which are true adventures will come to an end with many restrictions on WGS and FKK clubs as well.Haha,
It will be fun queuing at the immigration office together with EE girls, applying for British nationality, and trying to guess which ones are in the game.
t. Also there are several members on here who say that the sex scene in London is as good if not better than any abroad ?Can you quote precisely one such member saying that? Especially that it is "better than ANY abroad"?
I only say that London has a lot to offer, for those who happened to live her, or a re passing by. Not that London should be THE best mongering destination in the word. Nor that it is "better". FKKs are different, Macau saunas are different, Rio Thermaes are different, Thailand is different, and Tokyo is awesome. And yes, London is better than Paris, Rome for instance.
And if you really wanted to get details, you would have a lot in JJS and a few others' posts. But you are only interested in, yes, grumbling. So be our guest, and continue. Grumbling!
LustyMan100
06-27-16, 12:18
Hello mongers,
I coming soon to London, I've found nice ladies on AD website.
Is it safe to book a lady from this website (They are all fully verified members)?
Please let me know your experience.
Thanks.I recently tried it. There was no problem at all. When you call them, just clarify everything on the call. That's important, else some of them may end up asking for more money once you start action.
You could've posted the link. LOL For the benefit of some who Grumble about not getting full details. http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=2861510 http://www.adultwork.com/2861510 or http://www.adultwork.com/Naughty+Teen+Cleo.
Well it looks like you got a bargain as she's now in Peterborough charging 220/2 hours, English as well as a Lap Dancer.
Who can grumble about that.
Here is another link with full details on the 2.50 a pop.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/934981/hookers-offering-pensioners-sex-for-just-2-50-a-time/
"Hookers are offering sex for 2.50 a time to pensioners residents said there were four different women involved. The callers are.
Said to be in their twenties and described as "clean and well dressed".And here are yet some more links about the sex scene in places like Peterborough and South Yorkshire. Everywhere in fact, except actually in London.
Yes, I know that this London thread sits within the wider United Kingdom forum but it is actually called the London thread.
Hey,
I'll be in London in Sept / Oct (back after 5 long Nando-less years). I was hoping to gain some info on any good gangbang or orgy parties / clubs? What are the best sex clubs or sex parties that one can find in London. Which is the best place within Zone 1-3 that would have a gangbang / orgy / greedy girls / etc?
Cheers.
Hey,
I'll be in London in Sept / Oct (back after 5 long Nando-less years). I was hoping to gain some info on any good gangbang or orgy parties / clubs? What are the best sex clubs or sex parties that one can find in London. Which is the best place within Zone 1-3 that would have a gangbang / orgy / greedy girls / etc?
Cheers.Not the kind of parties you prefer or at least I never heard of such parties in London as you'd get flamed on the UK sites for even asking about them, its a taboo subject.
I only say that London has a lot to offer, for those who happened to live her, or a re passing by. Not that London should be THE best mongering destination in the word. Nor that it is "better". FKKs are different, Macau saunas are different, Rio Thermaes are different, Thailand is different, and Tokyo is awesome. And yes, London is better than Paris, Rome for instance.
yes, grumbling. , and continue. Grumbling!Very well said and I couldn't agree more.
Different cities, different mongering opportunities, different tastes, But then again mongers are different as well in what they're looking for and how they come across on the open forum. Some who experience Positive or Negative sexual encounters post on them with factual details. Links and that's what ISG forum is for. As for grumbling, there's nothing wrong with that at all if there are grounds for it, But if you've followed the pattern, theme pf the grumbling you refer to and the Background to it, you'd find its actually called Trolling.
Hey,
I'll be in London in Sept / Oct (back after 5 long Nando-less years). I was hoping to gain some info on any good gangbang or orgy parties / clubs? What are the best sex clubs or sex parties that one can find in London. Which is the best place within Zone 1-3 that would have a gangbang / orgy / greedy girls / etc?
Cheers.It depends on your budget and what you mean by Orgy?
The best in P4P Sex Parties in London at present and from what I read is http://thephoenixclub.london/welcome http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3642-The-Phoenix-Club Now its more of an orgy as the action is all in one room unlike when it was LMP Parties. LMP parties were great as the action was in 3 rooms, But I assume Phoenix is good for one room Orgy for those interested.
More of an orgy if that's what you're looking for is London Sex Parties Link via http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=966518 Her orgy parties are £70 for 2 hours.
If your preference is for AO Parties in Germany (No offence to anyone but not my thing in any shape or form) ,you better hurry up as the Clock is Ticking on them coming to an end. On 1 July.
That said, now is the time for a moan and a grumble LOL. Why haven't you posted your question on the right thread for Parties, like here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3256-London-Parties-..
It depends on your budget and what you mean by Orgy?
If your preference is for AO Parties in Germany (No offence to anyone but not my thing in any shape or form) ,you better hurry up as the Clock is Ticking on them coming to an end. On 1 July..1 July 2017. . More than likely all the bareback Romanian girls performing at such parties will be heading, trafficked to London by then with their pimps and handlers to join other Romanian girls who advertise Bareback sex on adultwork.com complete with a line up (A Romanian specialist in London). They will be swarming London before Brexit comes into force.
1 July 2017. . They will be swarming London before Brexit comes into force.If it (Brexit.) ever does.
If your preference is for AO Parties in Germany (No offence to anyone but not my thing in any shape or form) ,you better hurry up as the Clock is Ticking on them coming to an end. On 1 July.
And if you seriously believe that enacting a law (it's not certain yet exactly what will come in) will cause those activities to stop then you'll believe that tomorrow everyone on the M25 will keep to 70 mph or less!
There are details of lots of AO venues and parties still all over internet for those interested in them in Germany.
Bit like the law they have discussed bringing in next year (2017) banning BBBJ. What a complete joke. Totally impossible to enforce without breaching article 8 ECHR.
Some who write legislation need to get out a bit.
As for brexit. It will happen. We voted for it and any politician saying they will refuse to enforce the biggest democratic vote in UK history is committing political suicide.
For the record, like AO parties in Germany. Brexit will have zero affect on mongering in London or elsewhere in the UK.
WG's don't come into this country from EE or elsewhere and sign up with HMRC to pay taxes!
If your preference is for AO Parties in Germany (No offence to anyone but not my thing in any shape or form) ,you better hurry up as the Clock is Ticking on them coming to an end. On 1 July..The German parliament Bundstag has now passed the new law on prostitution reform in Germany.
Wearing of condoms will be compulsory.
End of flat rate all you can Fuck Buffet Sex parties and other measures on controlling prostitution and register of WGS.
It will be in force on 1 July 2017.
https://kingslandrogue.wordpress.com/2016/02/05/condoms-compulsory-in-german-sex-industry-under-new-law/
All I am interested in when mongering in London is to research AW carefully and read the list of BB Girls who happen to be mainly Romanians who are listed on one of the main UK sites in order to avoid unnecessary risks.
But each to their own.
And if you seriously believe that enacting a law (it's not certain yet exactly what will come in) will cause those activities to stop then you'll believe that tomorrow everyone on the M25 will keep to 70 mph or less!
Bit like the law they have discussed bringing in next year (2017) banning BBBJ. What a complete joke. Totally impossible to enforce without breaching article 8 ECHR.They have banned smoking inside saunas and FKKs in Germany however you would never have guessed it given the majority of girls that chain smoke inside these clubs the whole day.
Now they have banned the smoking of cocks without a condom in saunas and FKKS in Germany from July 2017 but guess what?
Well I am sure that some people will believe that everyone will observe the speed limits on the M25. However these are probably the same people who believe that areas up to 100 miles or more outside of the M25 are still in London.
The German parliament Bundstag has now passed the new law on prostitution reform in Germany.
Wearing of condoms will be compulsory.
End of flat rate all you can Fuck Buffet Sex parties and other measures on controlling prostitution and register of WGS.
It will be in force on 1 July 2017.
https://kingslandrogue.wordpress.com/2016/02/05/condoms-compulsory-in-german-sex-industry-under-new-law/
Yes but you completely miss my points JJ. Motorways have laws in the UK saying you will NOT drive at more than 70 mph. 99% of the population who drive on motorways flout those laws every day of the week. The Bundstag can bring in whatever it likes but they are truly stupid laws as they are completely unenforceable. Imagine the scened. You are in a zimmer in an FKK with a lovely girl giving you BBBJ (standard in FKKs). Are the police REALLY going to burst in through the door and say "a- ha. We got you. No condom there for the blow job". No. Because even the door opening will make the girls head come up to see who and what is happening so a BBBJ will never be discovered even then. There is a better chance of being caught doing 75 on the M25 than being caught breaching this silly law. And BTW. It won't make people who love FKKs monger in London with selection purely on the internet (for AW) any more than they do now. Whilst London has to compete with clubs with 100 naked women it will always be a very poor choice.
KenzoTange
07-13-16, 08:20
Hello,
Have any of you used this agency before? I will be in London next week for work and would like the companionship of a hot brown girl from the Middle East or even India.
http://www.sugarbabesinternational.com/?page=female-escorts&n%5B%5D=arabic&n%5B%5D=indian&n%5B%5D=lebanese&n%5B%5D=persian
Other leads would be greatly appreciated. There was an Indian Palace posted earlier, but the girls were rather "meh. "
But some people are always grumbling because Roses have thorns, I am thankful that Thorns have roses.Jo, I have no idea who Alphonse Karr is, but I absolutely love the quote.
Jo, I have no idea who Alphonse Karr is, but I absolutely love the quote."Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr was a French critic, journalist, and novelist. His brother Eugene was a talented engineer, and his niece Carme Karr was a writer, journalist and suffragist in La Roche-Mabile". Thanks to WIKI.
He was a French critic.
I have found quite a bit of English escorts on adult work but other than that is it a rarity to find English escorts in the UK.
Hello,
Have any of you used this agency before? I will be in London next week for work and would like the companionship of a hot brown girl from the Middle East or even India.
http://www.sugarbabesinternational.com/?page=female-escorts&n%5B%5D=arabic&n%5B%5D=indian&n%5B%5D=lebanese&n%5B%5D=persianOn more than one occasion I had the pleasure of fucking this girl at an incall in one of the most Upmarket areas in London and it only costed £120 an hour or £130 and she was called then Zena http://www.sugarbabesinternational.com/female-escorts/nazima 1 hour £300.
Great ass and body+ beautiful face but she didn't do Anal not even with her boyfriend, so she said?
She is white with green eyes.
Nationality? "Nazima was born in Baghdad and is 1/4 Persian, 1/4 Syrian and 1/2 Iraqi. " Who knows and who cares?
I have found quite a bit of English escorts on adult work but other than that is it a rarity to find English escorts in the UK.It comes with the territory. In many parts of London its a rarity to find English People never mind escorts.
Prostitution and paying for sex is legal in the UK but certain activities are illegal, like Kerb Crawling, Soliciting in public, and in the latest law 2009 paying for sex with a girl who's been controlled, trafficked or coerced into prostitution is illegal and its a Strict Liability which means it doesn't matter if the monger knew of this or not.
If the monger gets caught in a police raid, the police can either release him, or offer him the acceptance of a Caution IE an admission of guilt but without going to court. Refusal to accept a caution means an open trial and probably ending with a prison sentence.
All cautions go on a criminal record.
As for Speeding on roads and Motorways, its different to the above as it falls under motoring offences which are not Imprisonable and do not appear on a criminal record.
https://thedrivingsolicitor.co.uk/2015/08/18/will-a-driving-convictio
"These motoring offences are not imprisonable and do not appear on a criminal record.
Speeding.
Careless driving.
Construction and use offences (including using a mobile phone).
Failing to observe traffic a sign.
Failing to provide driver details".
Hello friends!
Does anyone has leads on possible WG near Walthamstow or areas around it?
Thanks.
1 July 2017. . More than likely all the bareback Romanian girls performing at such parties will be heading, trafficked to London by then with their pimps and handlers to join other Romanian girls who advertise Bareback sex on adultwork.com complete with a line up (A Romanian specialist in London). They will be swarming London before Brexit comes into force.I hope not. Yes, I definitely hope not. The Romanian girls on AdultWork in the UK are renowned for their rampant dishonesty whereas in contrast their compatriots in Germany still retain that wonderful mindset that they ought to try and provide exactly what the punter needs as best they can.
We don't want these honest girls coming over here and having their pure attitudes tainted. Rather that they stay in Germany when, after all the fuss over the new law has settled down after a few weeks, they will continue providing that same value for money, customer-focused (and yes, beautifully bare) service that they have been providing, although probably not as blatantly as before.
Hello friends!
Does anyone has leads on possible WG near Walthamstow or areas around it?
Thanks.You could check the Adultwork site for this specific area of London, you'll be fortunate if you find an attractive girl that matches the profile and isn't in a shitty bedsit.
I have found quite a bit of English escorts on adult work but other than that is it a rarity to find English escorts in the UK.You're looking in the wrong place, try looking on dedicated sites such as agencyallure or bijoux where you will find plenty of English girls that are high quality, great personalities and provide an excellent experience. Personally I always use agencyallure.
Yes but you completely miss my points JJ. Motorways have laws in the UK saying you will NOT drive at more than 70 mph. 99% of the population who drive on motorways flout those laws every day of the week. The Bundstag can bring in whatever it likes but they are truly stupid laws as they are completely unenforceable. Imagine the scened. You are in a zimmer in an FKK with a lovely girl giving you BBBJ (standard in FKKs). Are the police REALLY going to burst in through the door and say "a- ha. We got you. No condom there for the blow job". No. Because even the door opening will make the girls head come up to see who and what is happening so a BBBJ will never be discovered even then. There is a better chance of being caught doing 75 on the M25 than being caught breaching this silly law. And BTW. It won't make people who love FKKs monger in London with selection purely on the internet (for AW) any more than they do now. Whilst London has to compete with clubs with 100 naked women it will always be a very poor choice.Title says it all!
1 July 2017. . More than likely all the bareback Romanian girls performing at such parties will be heading, trafficked to London by then with their pimps and handlers to join other Romanian girls who advertise Bareback sex on adultwork.com complete with a line up (A Romanian specialist in London). They will be swarming London before Brexit comes into force.That said, I happen to agree with someone who said, I hope not, Yes, I definietly hope not, But my hope is for different reasons. As all of this is mere speculation and wishful thinking at present.
Started researching on the would be effects on my main and probably only hobby after Brexit. I read and respect opinions and experiences of mongers on their tastes and preferences, But I am a sucker for reading facts and figures as they are on the ground by the main players.
Here it is straight from the horse's mouth who's British Born "sex worker named Kirsty is Bradford-born and also thinks leaving the EU will cause a mass migration of European sex workers.
She told Daily Star Online: "Leaving the EU is just going to mean loads more girls from Eastern Europe coming while the going is good.
"There are already hundreds here."
They charge bugger all so it means we have all got to drop our prices. "More and more girls coming just means one thing – lower prices.
Sex workers in the UK have told Daily Star Online they are really worried that new vice girls may charge as little as £10 for a lusty meeting.
A Romanian hooker named Anna, who works in a street close to Bradford's city center, spoke to us.
She warned of an explosion of foreign sex workers coming to the UK which would drive her prices down.
"Hordes of eastern European prostitutes 'charging £10' flood UK before Brexit close borders.
EASTERN European prostitutes are set to swamp Britain before the borders are finally closed after leaving the EU. "http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/526919/Hordes-eastern-European-Union-prostitutes-charging-10-flood-UK-Brexit-close-borders.
More on the subject here www.viralinside.xyz/brexit-has-had-a-surprising-effect-on-prostitution/2 Jul 2016 - 1000's of escorts from Europe are evidently established to overload the United kingdom prior to we at some point leave the EU.
That said, I happen to agree with someone who said, I hope not, Yes, I definietly hope not, But my hope is for different reasons. As all of this is mere speculation and wishful thinking at present.
Started researching on the would be effects on my main and probably only hobby after Brexit. I read and respect opinions and experiences of mongers on their tastes and preferences, But I am a sucker for reading facts and figures as they are on the ground by the main players.
Here it is straight from the horse's mouth who's British Born "sex worker named Kirsty is Bradford-born and also thinks leaving the EU will cause a mass migration of European sex workers.
She told Daily Star Online: "Leaving the EU is just going to mean loads more girls from Eastern Europe coming while the going is good..Going to join.
"Thousands of sex workers from nations such as Romania and Bulgaria already live and work in Britain.
In the UK they can earn much more than they could working in the sex industry back home.
But now many are concerned that legions of women will try to get into the UK before the borders are tightened. " same source. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/526919/Hordes-eastern-European-Union-prostitutes-charging-10-flood-UK-Brexit-close-borders.
And as someone else said, 99% of the best girls in the UK work in London, so its very reasonable to expect even lower prices and probably what's already available in a major EU Country will also be more widely available in London for those who are interested. LOL Going back to basics.
It doesn't make very good reading for The Movers & Shakers of The Condom Industry either despite the optimistic forecast in this article. LOL.
http://www.ukessays.co.uk/essays/management/condoms.php
"Conclusion. Due to increased demand and greater social acceptance, condoms began to be sold in a wider variety of retail outlets, including in supermarkets and in discount department stores. Condom sales increased every year until 1994, when media attention to the AIDS pandemic began to decline. Worldwide condom use is expected to continue to grow: one study predicted that developing nations would need 18.6 billion condoms in 2015. For the boom of the condom industry, it appears there is no end in sight."
I have found quite a bit of English escorts on adult work but other than that is it a rarity to find English escorts in the UK.Here is another agency which I read does also have very good reputation for English Girls based in very good areas of London, eg Kensington, Chelsea, South Kensington where some very good bars restaurants are located. . Of course it does depend on your budget.
http://www.hamiltonsescorts.com/tags/english-escorts.htm
Caveat. I've not used this agency and if I've used an agency, I would've posted a link with the Girl's name, profile and the experience, that's the expected thing on the major UK Sites, otherwise its just meaningless just to talk about one or 2 agencies.
Hello friends!
Does anyone has leads on possible WG near Paddington?
Regards.
I found this WG by the name of Zara. When I spoke over the phone, she sounded nice and said she is on trip from Japan to London. Charges were £80 incall. Sounded quite a deal to me after I saw the pics and boarded the tube to reach her place in central London.
After walking around a little finally reached the apartment. Turns out the pics were old as she looked older in real compared to the pics.
Anyhow, I proceeded with the deed as I have a weird fetish for silky hair (her's looked great). Service was OK as I was pretty bummed early on.
Hoping to find some real deal soon.
Thanks.
Started researching on the would be effects on my main and probably only hobby after Brexit. I read and respect opinions and experiences of mongers on their tastes and preferences, But I am a sucker for reading facts and figures as they are on the ground by the main players.
Here it is straight from the horse's mouth who's British Born "sex worker named Kirsty is Bradford-born and also thinks leaving the EU will cause a mass migration of European sex workers.
She told Daily Star Online: "Leaving the EU is just going to mean loads more girls from Eastern Europe coming while the going is good."Why would prostitutes want to leave a country like Germany, where prostitution and everything about it is completely legal even supported (as well as being a reasonably affordable place to live) to go to country like the UK where prostitutes are persecuted by the police and they cannot ply their trade openly for fear of being arrested for some trivial reason or other? Not to mention that most of their earnings will be going on sky-high rent for accommodation which is probably a lot less habitable than what they can find in Germany.
The only reason I can think of is that maybe they are just as highly educated as the average Daily Star reader or rely on newspapers like that to keep them informed. Who would ever believe anything that is posted in the Daily Star anyway?
For guys from outside the UK here are some articles on Romanian Prostitutes in London as told by some broadsheet papers which are read by the highly educated, so they claim.
First of all here's a very useful link on who reads what in The UK to get a balanced view. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers?from=Main.BritishNewspapers.
Newspaper readership by social class.
AB C1 C2 DE.
GB (24 27 21 28.
The Times (53 30 8 8.
Financial Times (53 33 8 6.
Daily Telegraph (52 30 10 9.
The Guardian (52 31 7 10.
The Independent (46 36 8 10.
Daily Mail (26 33 21 19.
Daily Express (23 32 24 21.
The Daily Mirror (11 23 27 39.
The Sun (8 22 29 41.
Daily Star (5 17 35 42.
None (22 28 21 29.
Source: MORI aggregates 2004. Base: c10,000 interviews with GB residents 15+.
An above average proportion of Telegra.
Ph and Times readers live in the East.
And the South East. The Guardian, the Independent and particularly the Financial.
Times have a high proportion of London readers. The highest proportion of.
Daily Mirror and Star readers live in the North, while Sun readers https://www.ipsos-mori.com/DownloadPublication/240_sri_you_are_what_you_read_042005.pdf.
Here's what The Guardian Newspaper & Observer which are supposed to be read by the Educated & Highly Educated in The UK has to say about Romanian Prostitutes in London.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/12/romanian-sex-workers-taxed-street-corners
"Romanian sex workers in turf wars over London pitches. " London must be the Magnet for them all.
Prostitution.
The Observer.
Here's more by http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/romanian-sex-workers-facing-deportation-plan-challenge-uk-immigration-policy-1557747.
Romanian sex workers facing deportation plan to challenge UK immigration policy.
May 2, 2016 06:23 BST.
Confirmed by The BBC" Concern over trafficked Romanian prostitutes in London.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22818704
The biggest attraction In London for Romanian Hoes must be the less hectic & safer way of doing tricks than being AO Gang Banged at Parties. For a 100 Euros or less.
Like all thing in life which are perceived to be so great at one time things can't last for ever, more so when it comes to mongering.
"As the present now will later be past.
The order is rapidly fading'.
For the times they are a-changing'. Bob Dylan.
Just read a very interesting article here under the Title " Germany's mega-brothel left me cold " "Public attitudes are changing in Germany. As well they might when a small city like the 180,000 population Saarbrücken can boast 100 brothels and a sprawling branch of Paradise. There have been petitions and demonstrations demanding changes to the law. While Channel 4 was filming its documentary, police raided the entire Paradise chain and Michael Beretin is currently in remand, arrested on suspicion of pimping. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/germanys-mega-brothel-left-me-cold/.
As to who reads the Daily Telegraph http://www.anglotopia.net/anglophilia/which-british-newspaper-are-you-a-guide-to-british-newspapers/.
"The Daily Telegraph is a broadsheet newspaper that was founded in 1855. It's one of the few broadsheet newspapers left. It has a sister paper, The Sunday Telegraph that was founded in 1961. According to recent reports, the Telegraph is the highest selling British quality paper."
It all confirms the recent reports of Romanian Pros heading to London.
Why would prostitutes want to leave a country like Germany, where prostitution and everything about it is completely legal even supported (as well as being a reasonably affordable place to live) to go to country like the UK where prostitutes are persecuted by the police and they cannot ply their trade openly for fear of being arrested for some trivial reason or other? Not to mention that most of their earnings will be going on sky-high rent for accommodation which is probably a lot less habitable than what they can find in Germany.
The only reason I can think of is that maybe they are just as highly educated as the average Daily Star reader or rely on newspapers like that to keep them informed. Who would ever believe anything that is posted in the Daily Star anyway?As a Daily Star reader it obvious why they leave to work in the UK. The money to be earned in London and what they have to do to earn it! Life in an FKK is super competitive, super restrictive as you can't scam the clients, super low prices and lots of clients to service in a day or week to earn money. Difficult to avoid paying taxes. UK Police persecuting prostitutes. Are you mad? That is a ridiculous statement! Accommodation expense. Sharing a house with 8 other EEs at 45.00 a week.
Judging on your ill founded conclusions I'd say the Beano is still beyond you!
WillNotTell
07-19-16, 18:44
Making the appointment was straightforward. I called requsted an incall and was told to get to Marylebone station and call them again. I did that and was told to walk a few minutes to get to their location. I get there and a pretty girl in a raincoat opens the door. It was a nice scene. The girl who opened the door was called Anna. Don't think she's the one on the website as she looks a lot different. The one I saw looked better. She's 5' 4 about 110 lbs and C cup implants. The implants look good but are a bit hard and she has C-section scars. The apt was decent and clean. Had a shower and then got on the bed. Anna took off her clothes and started with the massage. She said she'd only been there a day or so. Anyways, session was decent. There was some very light LFK, Russian, Hot Dogging (russian but between ass cheeks instead of tits) and a CBJ. Had a decent time.
Face: 7. 5/10.
Body: 7. 5/10.
Attitude: 9/10.
Repeat: Yes.
http://www.erosmassagelondon.com/massage-service/
What quite a few girls working in FKK have told me about having worked in London.
1. The money they earn in London looks good but they have higher "overheads" than in Germany, to say nothing of the inflated cost of accommodation.
2 They are much less safe, and when they are on the receiving end of trouble are likely to get no help from the Police.
3 Unlike in FKK they are isolated and cannot screen their customers effectively.
As for the media reporting. I don't think either the Daily Telegraph or Guardian etc. Are reliable sources since their main aim is to sell newspapers, by stroking their readers' world views. Other media are no better. A recent book claiming to expose the awful life in FKK was written by a woman who had no reliable information and didn't understand even the basics.
The existence of turf wars in the UK which are cited to prove the influx of Romanians doesn't prove that at all. What it indicates is that the business is operating on the margins of legality, encouraging the more short term profit aims (beating up the competition).
As for the effects of Brexit, Sterling has fallen by 15% from its high on referendum night, so earnings in the UK will have fallen for Romanians sending money home, consumer spending and confidence is down, and most of Europe feels sorry for us, so I don't think a cheap newspaper story means anything. How many stories have there been about floods of immigrants, this one is even more sellable as it includes sex.
Media reporting in the UK on Romanian Pros by all the Main Newspapers is not reliable, since their main aim is to sell newspapers? TV Documentaries by The BBC, Channel 4?
What's going to happen in Germany with the new law after 1 July 2017 is of course a matter of Speculation and guessing as to how it will affect.
Romanian Girls and with that law now in sight + Brexit will it prompt them and their pimps, handlers to flood the UK?
I wonder if Mystic Meg can forecast the the near future movement of Romanian Girls into the UK. ?? Mystic Meg is one of Britain's most popular astrologers and psychics, who has appeared in regular astrology columns in UK newspaper The Sun, and, until its demise, in the News of the World. She now hosts Mystic Meg's Wheel of Destiny for Sun Bingo. Wikipedia.
Education: University of Leeds.
Highly educated and "As an undergraduate she studied English at the University of Leeds Before she became famous she wrote pornography for Men Only, a British porn magazine."
Went to P Lounge on a friend's birthday! Took a private with this Portuguese gal Miss K. She is extremely naughty. Tried to persuade her to come along, but she didn't come. I feel they have some very beautiful gals but have never been able to take one with us. Anyone here has been successful in doing that?
Cheers!
Media reporting in the UK on Romanian Pros by all the Main Newspapers is not reliable, since their main aim is to sell newspapers? TV Documentaries by The BBC, Channel 4?Some figures re Romanians. "Workers from Romania and Bulgaria drive migration surge http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4624456.ece.
Of course figures don't show Pros as a distinct group, But if this isn't a flood, I don't know what makes a flood in numbers " Growing population.
The Romanian community has been one of the fastest growing in the UK, reaching an estimated 223,000 in 2015. The north-west London suburb of Burnt Oak has become something of a Little Romania in recent years, widely pronounced as "Bontoc". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36704783.
Pros will make their assisted way into the UK " One gang boss told us: 'England's opened the gates and can't do nothing. Buy these girls for £500 each, they will do 20 clients a day no problem'.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=952_1393356196
"Romania is one of the top countries of origin for people being trafficked for sex into the UK. " http://www.channel4.com/news/sex-trafficking-romania-lover-boys-grooming-prostitution.
StarletVoyager
07-21-16, 01:14
Some of you might know me from the FKK section anyway I'm in london for one day next Wednesday and I can't be bothered with the escort agencies due to misleading pics and phoenix club isn't my thing. Does anyone know of a really nice luxury type massage parlour or something similar where I can pick from a nice lineup rather than booking an escort girl whose facial appearance is alien. Any help appreciated.
Jojosun. Why do you use emotive words like "flood" in your reports. I see you have been banging on about this for a very long time. You cherry pick your figures and use them in isolation. It's typical of the scaremongering which led to the Brexit vote.
The UK needs workers from the EU. In the past it needed workers from the Commonwealth, and I remember the same claims in the past about floods of such immigrants.
You have a political agenda which is not appropriate in this forum.
You continue to use media headlines and reports as if they were some kind of authoritative truth and fail to understand the most basic drivers for those who select stories and how to report them. Merely quoting other people's opinions and isolated facts does not prove anything.
You continue to use media headlines and reports as if they were some kind of authoritative truth and fail to understand the most basic drivers for those who select stories and how to report them. Merely quoting other people's opinions and isolated facts does not prove anything.And this proves everything as its set in stone.
QUOTE=Optimist;1910769]What quite a few girls working in FKK have told me about having worked in London.
1. The money they earn in London looks good but they have higher "overheads" than in Germany, to say nothing of the inflated cost of accommodation.
2 They are much less safe, and when they are on the receiving end of trouble are likely to get no help from the Police.
3 Unlike in FKK they are isolated and cannot screen their customers effectively.
... go to country like the UK where prostitutes are persecuted by the police and they cannot ply their trade openly for fear of being arrested for some trivial reason or other?Misinformation as usual.
Prostitution is legal in the UK. The only case where police harass is with street workers. Otherwise anyone can ply her trade in her own premises openly. Agencies, parties, girls openly advertise freely.
It may be more attractive for a attractive Romanian girl to be in a thriving and lively city like London, making enough money to enjoy the cty, than living in the middle of nowhere, such as an industrial Park in the Ruhr area. To each his own, I am sure some will happily stay in Germany, but facts are proving you wrong, London is already flooded with Romanians.
So weekend is here. Planning to score one tonight at this club. Lets see how it goes.
Drove past the famous Kings Cross pub the Flying Scotsman last week and saw it has been reinstated as a normal pub. For decades this had been a strip joint. Free entry and a 1 in the girls glass jar. I?One of the best deals and close to the West End is The Griffin Strip Club with some amazing girls. Same formula a 1 in the jar, Free entry.
Good deals on private dances and very close are between 1&5 pm only £ 10 . http://thegriffinstripclub.co.uk/.
Some really hot girls there from Brazil, UK,Romania, Sarah (Brazil) Kimmy (Black British of Indian Jamaican Origin) and yes hot Romanian Girls, Denise, Alicia, Honey a bubbly curvy English girls. http://thegriffinstripclub.co.uk/timetable.
The place is well ventilated and spacious.
After 5 pm, another good option in the heart of the West End with free entry before 7 pm http://www.platinumlace.co.uk/clubs/london/opening-hours/.
And this proves everything as its set in stone.
QUOTE=Optimist;1910769]What quite a few girls working in FKK have told me about having worked in London.
1. The money they earn in London looks good but they have higher "overheads" than in Germany, to say nothing of the inflated cost of accommodation.
2 They are much less safe, and when they are on the receiving end of trouble are likely to get no help from the Police.
3 Unlike in FKK they are isolated and cannot screen their customers effectively.No, I never suggested that what I have been told means anything is set in stone. I assume that your statement was sarcasm as otherwise it meant that you are saying that the opinions I passed on are God's own truth
I explained in clear words that it was only what girls said was their experience. Please don't misrepresent my meaning.
Dreams. London is not "flooded" with Romanians. I can understand that the emotive word expresses your feelings, but it is not a fact. Specific numbers are facts.
You are right that girls much prefer to be in a city like London than in what they consider a boring bit of Germany (based on what girls say to me)
My feeling is that in my area there are too many stick in the mud, unenterprising, and xenophobic English people. I want more young, dynamic Romanians. That is just my opinion :)
Cheers
Dreams. If you investigate Operation Nexus and the work of the English Collective of Prostitutes I think you will see that there is a policy and practice which is certainly, in my view, equivalent to persecution of Prostitutes from the EU, as Myrrh suggests.
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Dreams. London is not "flooded" with Romanians. I can understand that the emotive word expresses your feelings, but it is not a fact. Specific numbers are facts.
CheersHere are some Specific numbers, not counting the ones who work without NI numbers figure 1: Overview of Ni No Registrations data for EU citizens, year ending Dec 2003 to year ending Dec 2015.
Overview of NINo data for EU2, EU8 and EU15 in context of EU8 accession and lifting of EU2 controls. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepop.
National Insurance numbers total of 214,000 registrations of Romanians and Bulgarians (EU2) to the year ending June 2015.
"The number of National Insurance numbers issued to Bulgarians and Romanians has jumped from below 50,000 to more than 200,000 since work restrictions on people from those countries were lifted in 2014."
Many Romanian and EE WGs also register themselves as self employed paying National Insurance and taxes to legalize their stay in the UK especially those who work at Strip clubs or reputable agencies and incalls run by British People. Of course the best ones head to and work in London.
Yes, London is Flooded, Swarmed with Romanian girls and I am hoping for an even bigger Flood of Young Hot Reliable Romanian girls of the type I've mongered with lately in London. A report with links on some of them will follow.
Dreams. London is not "flooded" with Romanians. I I want more young, dynamic Romanians. That is just my opinion :)
CheersIf you want what you're looking for, now you know Where to look for them in the UK as its now been proved in (Figures) that London is Flooded, Swarmed with Romanians.
LOL, be a true Optimist, Enjoy the London scene before Brexit comes into force.
Dreams.
You are right that girls much prefer to be in a city like London than in what they consider a boring bit of Germany (based on what girls say to me)
CheersPrior to the lifting of controls on Romanians they were attracted to Italy and Spain because of Similarity of Romanian language to Italian and Spanish, that's what few WGS told me.
And prior to Romania joining The EU they were to be found in Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, Turkey.
Now Young Romanians including WGS are much more likely to have some English skills than German, same applies all over Eastern and Central Europe.
Misinformation as usual.
Prostitution is legal in the UK. The only case where police harass is with street workers. Otherwise anyone can ply her trade in her own premises openly. Agencies, parties, girls openly advertise freely.Dreams,
I am sorry that it seems to you that I am providing general misinformation.
But who said anything about prostitution being illegal in the UK? Everyone knows that prostitution has always been completely legal in the UK. The paradox though is that although a woman can never be arrested for being a prostitute, pretty much everything else that she needs to operate easily in her profession is illegal.
She can't openly solicit on the streets, advertise her prostitution services in the general media, hire someone to act as her manager / agent, work from a premise with more than one other prostitute working there and so on. Even if she has a maid to help her with answering the phone and opening the door to visitors, she cannot pay her a salary directly but instead the maid has to rely on tips from punters to make a living.
The prostitute can act as a prostitute as long as the general public is unaware she is a prostitute. So she will describe herself as a model, a masseuse, a hostess or even a lap dancer to escape unwelcome attention from the general public if not the law.
In fact the environment for prostitutes is so unfavorable here that most people actually assume that prostitution is illegal. Whereas in other countries, like Thailand, where prostitution is against the law people assume that is completely legal because prostitutes are allowed to operate totally openly and their profession is generally accepted within society as a legitimate way to make a living.
Let me leave you with a post from your mate Jojosun describing a raid by the police on a London sauna, just 4 years ago, and the owner was put in prison for 2 years for running a brothel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6_d1BWJBg
Published on 26 Jul 2013.
The Met police raid on Steam and Sun Health Club in Chalton Street, London, in February 2012.
http://taxileaks.********.co.uk/2013/07/sun-and-sauna-owner-gets-two-years-for.html
Sauna owner gets two years for running a brothel.
[URL]http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/04/upmarket-brothel-steam-sun-club-made-26m-a-year-...
Here are some Specific numbers, not counting the ones who work without NI numbers figure 1: Overview of Ni No Registrations data for EU citizens, year ending Dec 2003 to year ending Dec 2015.
Overview of NINo data for EU2, EU8 and EU15 in context of EU8 accession and lifting of EU2 controls. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepop.
National Insurance numbers total of 214,000 registrations of Romanians and Bulgarians (EU2) to the year ending June 2015.
"The number of National Insurance numbers issued to Bulgarians and Romanians has jumped from below 50,000 to more than 200,000 since work restrictions on people from those countries were lifted in 2014."
Many Romanian and EE WGs also register themselves as self employed paying National Insurance and taxes to legalize their stay in the UK especially those who work at Strip clubs or reputable agencies and incalls run by British People. Of course the best ones head to and work in London.
Yes, London is Flooded, Swarmed with Romanian girls and I am hoping for an even bigger Flood of Young Hot Reliable Romanian girls of the type I've mongered with lately in London. A report with links on some of them will follow.More official figures on the number of Romanians.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/migration1/migration-statistics-quarterly-report/february-2015/sty-bulgarian-and-romanian-migration-to-the-uk.html
"Figures from the Labour Force Survey (LFS) and National Insurance Numbers (NINos) allocated to adult overseas nationals provide information on employment of EU2 nationals. These sources suggest that over the last year there were increases in the number of EU2 nationals either seeking work or in employment.
In the year ending December 2014, Romanian citizens were allocated the largest number of NINos; the total of 146,000 was a 715% increase on the 18,000 NINos allocated in the year to December 2013. Over the same period NINo allocations to Bulgarian nationals increased by 325% from 32,000 to 42,000. The NINo statistics represent a flow measure of non-UK nationals registering for a NINo. These patterns will also include short-term migrants and are not a direct measure of when a person immigrated to the UK, as those registering may have arrived to live in the UK weeks, months or years before registering.
Data from the LFS shows the number of Bulgarian and Romanian citizens in employment in the UK. The latest estimates show 154,000 Bulgarian and Romanian nationals employed in the UK in October to December 2014, a 19% increase on the same period in 2013 ".
More figures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians.
At the time of the 2001 census, 7,631 Romanian-born people were residing in the UK. When Romania joined the European Union in January 2007.
The British government placed transitional restrictions on the rights of Romanians to work in the UK, which expired on 1 January 2014. The Office for.
National Statistics (ONS) estimates that, in 2012,101,000 Romanian-born people were resident in the UK. In 2014, the ONS estimates that 170,000 Romanian-born people were resident in the UK. ".
Let me leave you with a post from your mate Jojosun describing a raid by the police on a London sauna, just 4 years ago, and the owner was put in prison for 2 years for running a brothel.In the interest of balance, The link here describes another raid where public attitudes are changing which prompted the raid http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/germanys-mega-brothel-left-me-cold/.
"Public attitudes are changing in Germany. As well they might when a small city like the 180,000 population Saarbrücken can boast 100 brothels and a sprawling branch of Paradise. There have been petitions and demonstrations demanding changes to the law. While Channel 4 was filming its documentary, police raided the entire Paradise chain and Michael Beretin is currently in remand, arrested on suspicion of pimping. ".
Hence, the New Law regulating sex In Germany coming into force on 1 July 2017 l, 11 months time, the clock is ticking.
No such laws in The UK so far forcing Mongers to condom up or an end to flat rate all you can fuck parties.
Dreams,
I am sorry that it seems to you that I am providing general misinformation.
Even if she has a maid to help her with answering the phone and opening the door to visitors, she cannot pay her a salary directly but instead the maid has to rely on tips from punters to make a living...Really. Where did you get your info from? I thought you said in one of your posts, you've never been to Soho and you only tried adultwork.com once.
Prostitutes can pay maids wages for cleaning, laundry etc of the premises even maids in Soho and other Incall places open the doors to visitors.
Only in Soho Tips of £2 are requested for the maids, nowhere else.
http://www.opendoors.nhs.uk/content/law-maiding-and-brothels
" Maids or housekeepers in brothels. , if your duties are of a menial nature and you have no control over prices or services, general you will not be committing an offence.
When working with a lone sex worker, it may assist your defense if you have a clear written agreement on what your duties are (EG cleaning and raising the alarm of an assault by a customer). (Release 'Sex Workers and the Law' 2011)".
Dreams,
I am sorry that it seems to you that I am providing general misinformation.
Let me leave you with a post from your mate Jojosun describing a raid by the police on a London sauna, just 4 years ago, and the owner was put in prison for 2 years for running a brothel.The Sauna which got raided was Sun&Stean in Chalton Street.
Other Saunas I posted on for the benefit of one of your mates are still open, But he said it was too far for him. Libby's Sauna and Aqua.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/265607/Brothels-thrive-beside-Olympic-stadium
Brothels thrive beside Olympic stadium.
BRAZEN hookers are "ho'ing for gold" in brothels just a javelin throw away from the Olympic Park. ".
Dreams. If you investigate Operation Nexus and the work of the English Collective of Prostitutes I think you will see that there is a policy and practice which is certainly, in my view, equivalent to persecution of Prostitutes from the EU, as Myrrh suggests.It varies from one police force to another, also from from one area to another raids on brothels where more than one girl is working.
When raids happen it must be due to one of the following.
1 Intolerant Police Force.
2 Intolerant Competition.
3 Intolerant Neighbors.
4 Acting on inel about Drugs, illegal immigrants, trafficked, coerced WGS working there.
More than likely any of the above apply to WGS from Eastern Europe especially the ones who did not register themselves as Self Employed paying National Insurance Contributions.
"A lot has been said, for and against, free movement within the EU. Most people think it means that any EU national can travel to another EU country and live there, work there or look for work. That's true for the first three months. But after that it becomes murkier. One has to 'access one's freedom.
Of movement rights' which means being in employment, being self-employed, being a student with finance for the duration of the course, or having.
Funds to sustain oneself and family. Freedom of movement is one of the founding principles of the EU, designed to support the economies of EU countries by providing a mobile work force. "
Here's more on Operation Nexus which was cited as amounting to persecution.
"Romanian sex workers challenge UK immigration policy.
Women targeted by Operation Nexus, which aims to deport foreign offenders, say they are legitimately self-employed Operation Nexus, a combined police and immigration initiative involving sharing intelligence, has been targeting foreign offenders and those suspected of breaking the law since 2012.
Among those detained and served with deportation papers are an increasing number of women from eastern Europe who have been working on the streets and in premises across London and Manchester. Many do not have convictions.
Prostitution is legal in the UK, although activities associated with it such as kerb-crawling, pimping and owning a brothel are crimes. Some of the women have been arrested by officers during raids intended to break up trafficking rings. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/01/romanian-sex-workers-challenge-uk-immigration-policy.
There were police raids in Soho few years ago where all Walkups are illegal under the present law but tolerated. Very few walk ups were ordered to close for various reasons, But the majority are still in operation at present. The raids were targeting criminal activities.
"Sex Trafficking and Stolen Goods: Police Raid Soho Hundreds of police officers have taken part in raids in Soho to target [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) and the selling of stolen goods. "http://www.lbc.co.uk/sex-trafficking-and-stolen-goods-police-raid-soho-82446.
Police would only raid Brothels when they have intel on serious crimes were committed on the premises as in the words of the Police " "The next step will be to work to close a number of the brothels where we have evidence of very serious crimes happening, including [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). We are using the skills and support of specialist officers from throughout the Met to ensure that suspects are found and brought to justice and the women are properly supported. "
Financial investigators are being used to find out where the money is going, to see if they are part of broader criminal networks. " http://www.lbc.co.uk/sex-trafficking-and-stolen-goods-police-raid-soho-82446.
Hi,
I'm headed to London and staying at the Mayfair Hotel off Straton. What are reputable escort agencies I can use? Also are there any nearby bars with potential talent? This is my first trip to London.
Thanks.
Jojosun. I still find your use of words like flooded and swamped to be inappropriate and emotional, but as we are never going to agree, I won't keep repeating my points. I don't dispute your figures, but I don't share your opinion that it is a flood.
As I rarely monger in London I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to take up space here as we could go on for ever.
You are definitely right about Romanians having English language skills, and about the climate for pay sex in Germany becoming less tolerant, partly due to the numbers of Romanians working there in pay sex industry
Really. Where did you get your info from?
Prostitutes can pay maids wages for cleaning, laundry etc of the premises even maids in Soho and other Incall places open the doors to visitors.
Only in Soho Tips of 2 are requested for the maids, nowhere else.
http://www.opendoors.nhs.uk/content/law-maiding-and-brothels
" Maids or housekeepers in brothels. , if your duties are of a menial nature and you have no control over prices or services, general you will not be committing an offence.
When working with a lone sex worker, it may assist your defense if you have a clear written agreement on what your duties are (EG cleaning and raising the alarm of an assault by a customer). (Release 'Sex Workers and the Law' 2011)".You tend to selectively quote evidence from on-line low quality taboid newspapers like the Daily Star ("Brothels thrive beside Olympic stadium") but only select the parts of the text that support your arguments.
You leave out parts like "the police may allege that the maid is selling sex and that the premises therefore counts as a brothel, especially if she / he is young" and from the Daily Star "Police closed 80 brothels in the 18 months before the Olympics in *Newham, east London".
Even the parts that you do quote "it may assist your defense if you have a clear written agreement on what your duties are" and "general (ly) you will not be committing an offence" show the tight rope that British based prostitutes walk to try and evade prosecution.
The Daily Star article that you quote in defense of your argument was actually complaining about the level of prostitution with their self-righteous statements like "uncovered four seedy haunts selling sex " and "the brothels are a million miles from the family-friendly image of Stratford".
Yes, brothels do exist but unfortunately could be easily be closed down like Steam and Sun 3 years ago if the police decide to prosecute.
The truth is that prostitutes are only truly 'safe' if they work on their own, inside premises that they personally own and do not venture out on to the streets.
Anyway, I agree with Optimist that our energies should be best devoted to answering queries from members like MonkeyPaw about where he can find good escort agencies and bars where he could potentially get sex?
Let me leave you with a post from your mate Jojosun describing a raid by the police on a London sauna, just 4 years ago, and the owner was put in prison for 2 years for running a brothel.So, by the same token, would you say that prostitutes are harassed in Germany because police recently raided Artemis not so long ago in Berlin.
Jojosun. I still find your use of words like flooded and swamped to be inappropriate and emotional, but as we are never going to agree, I won't keep repeating my points. I don't dispute your figures, but I don't share your opinion that it is a flood.
As I rarely monger in London I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to take up space here as we could go on for ever.
You are definitely right about Romanians having English language skills, and about the climate for pay sex in Germany becoming less tolerant, partly due to the numbers of Romanians working there in pay sex industryForget the semantic debate. And believe me, I am not in the least "emotional" (Fact is that there has been an increase of 400% in the number of Romanian nationals registering with the UK authorities to obtain a NI number. One can only speculate about the numbers of them who are in the business, but it is not absurd to think that the proportion of increase is similar in different social groups (builders, plumbers, nannies. And prostitutes.).
I think you came to the right conclusion that it is better for someone with little local experience not to arguie with someone (JJS) _who has much more.
Although I occasionally monger in Germany, I don't argue with Myrrh on those threads, since he obviously has far more experience than me there, although I do not always agree with his experiences.
Cheers.
Jojosun. I still find your use of words like flooded and swamped to be inappropriate and emotional, but as we are never going to agree, I won't keep repeating my points. I don't dispute your figures, but I don't share your opinion that it is a flood.
As I rarely monger in London I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to take up space here as we could go on for ever.
You are definitely right about Romanians having English language skills, and about the climate for pay sex in Germany becoming less tolerant, partly due to the numbers of Romanians working there in pay sex industryHi Optimist,
Guess what? I agree with you on the use of the words "Flooded, Swamped" are emotional, but its like in PR & Journalism" "When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news." It started our discussion on here and I learned few things doing Instant research as we continued and learned few things I never knew before, IE the numbers of Romanians. So in a way it wasn't a waste of space and after all we are not here to agree on everything are we?
Please also note, that I never said London incalls or adultwork is better for selection purposes when compared to FKK Clubs in Germany or that London is a great Mongering destination. I've always said London is a great city with great mongering opportunities for Variety if you do the right research and have plenty of time. There's something there for every budget, taste and price but not in your face so to speak like say in Thailand.
So this is my first trip out to London, and after reaching out for a little advice on here (which nobody helped out). I went out on my own. I did some fishing and came across a provider named Ria who is supposedly a Japanese student. Website here http://www.riaasianescortlondon.co.uk.
After a call up to my hotel room to confirm prior, an hour later she showed up at my hotel door. I'm staying at the May Fair and had left an extra card for her at the desk for elevator access. The woman who showed up was hardly the girl on the website. Ria states she is 19 on her site, but the lady who showed up was 19 probably about 12-15 years ago and not petite at all. She did however have implants. After a long flight I was to tired to get mad at the bait and switch. I just asked for a massage, oral, and hand relief. Money isn't a big issue with me so I just went with the flow, but passed up on the sex. I was't even turned on by the lady who shown up. I rather close my eyes and imagine Asian porn. So this is just a heads up and my contribution. Buyer beware.
Tomorrow I have a booking with Georgia of agencyallure and the next day, Yvonne of carmensecrets. Both high end, but supposedly reputable. It's going to cost me in 700-900 GBP rangeper session for each date. I'll report back with my findings.
BigTitsLover86
07-26-16, 22:38
Hello,
It's the first time to visit London, I traveled in July 2016, and my second time to try the escort service.
I checked a lot of websites before traveling and made a list of girls I would like to meet.
First Day:
Girl: Pamela (Agency), Nationality: E. European, Body: 5/10, Face: 7/10, Website: Admiral Escorts, Place: Her Apartment, Cost: 150 £/1 Hour, Payment: Cash, Satisfaction / Rating: 5/10.
I texted her agency through sms and then calls, and they confirmed the time to meet her.
I have arrived to the location provided, but wasn't able to locate exactly the building so called them back. Pamela called me to explain the exact building.
I entered the building and went to her floor and apartment.
She was heavier than the photos and also her face wasn't the same, too much Photoshop.
Her boobs were bigger than the photos, I do love big boobs but not too bigger.
I went to take a shower then we had about 5 minutes chat first before starting, I asked her for GFE but she said what is GFE!
Anyway we took off our clothes and when trying to hold her boobs, squeeze and suck she told me to be so soft with them! We did only one position which was cow girl.
I have finished after 20 minutes, the rest of the time we were chatting but she wasn't that friendly and was clock watcher!
Second Day:
Girl: Isabelle Evans (Independent), Nationality: Romanian, Body: 10/10, Face: 10/10, Website: Adult Work, Place: Her Apartment, Cost: 140 £/1 Hour, Payment: Cash, Satisfaction / Rating: 10/10.
While preparing my list before visiting London, Isabelle was the last girl on my list as I saw her on the website before travelling. That's for my good luck!
FYI, I texted her through sms and what's app upon my arrival before meeting Pamela, but Isabelle was busy that day. As I saw something different and was putting high expectation on her because her reviews and also what she wrote about her GFE.
Anyway, went to her as agreed. She is living in a very modern building and apartment.
She welcomed me by a very warm way, I felt like she is my real GF.
Although her face was covered on the photos, she has a gorgeous face and also she lost weight which made her body looks amazing and curvy.
She is very sexy and elegant, I went to take a shower then we chatted for about 10 minutes and she was very friendly and funny.
She was wearing a very sexy black lingerie. Her body was very sexy.
Her pussy was totally shaved and clean, her ass was amazing.
Her DFK was the best I had ever had, her lips was so wet and tasted very sexy.
Her boobs were amazing and very natural 36 DD my best size ever, I was playing with them, eating, sucking and licking as much as I can. I also had a mind blowing blowjob!
We started by a cow girl and finished in missionary after 20 minutes. We spent the remaining time chatting and we had a great time.
I told her about my list and that I will burn it, will visit her only during my trip and she was laughing.
I took a shower and left.
Third Day:
Girl: Isabelle Evans (Independent), Nationality: Romanian, Body: 10/10, Face: 10/10, Website: Adult Work, Place: Her Apartment, Cost: 280 £/2 Hour, Payment: Cash, Satisfaction / Rating: 10/10.
As I mentioned above, Isabelle was the best experience I had ever had for the escort service as I felt she is my real GF.
This time I texted her for 2 hours meeting and told her let's eat burger together as she told last time when she knew that I do love burger, that there is a very good restaurant she knew.
I went to her and brought her flowers, she was happy by this gesture.
She was pretty, horny and sexy like last time, she was wearing a sexy red lingerie.
We chatted for about 15 minutes, and started with kissing and blowjob. I was playing with her lovely boobs.
We started the action with cow girl, missionary and finished in doggy style (great ass).
She slept between my arms (what a great feeling) and I was playing with her hair.
We kept chatting for a long time, I do love chatting with her.
We ordered the burger, and started our next round with cow girl and missionary but I couldn't cum so we stopped although she was trying to make me cum.
The delivery man came and we went to the living room to eat together.
She told me about her schedule for the coming days but unfortunately I couldn't visit her again.
She sent me a photo of the flowers I brought to her and she was happy and thanking me for it.
Again, she was the best one ever if you are looking for a real GFE! Isabelle is your only choice!
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Well I am sure that some people will believe that everyone will observe the speed limits on the M25. However these are probably the same people who believe that areas up to 100 miles or more outside of the M25 are still in London.More misinformation as usual.
Can you name the member or members who said on this thread, that areas up to or more outside of the M25 are still in London.
Jojosun. I still find your use of words like flooded and swamped to be inappropriate and emotional, but as we are never going to agree, I won't keep repeating my points. I don't dispute your figures, but I don't share your opinion that it is a flood.
As I rarely monger in London I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to take up space here as we could go on for ever.
yFYI.
There are no better qualified people to tell us about the Numbers of EE including Romanian girls in London than in the words of some who are behind very reputable, long standing British run incall venues in London and close (like 30 minutes on the train) who have many EE Girls Including Romanians on their books. Here it is straight from the Hors's mouth "it has to be said that now the market is now flooded with EE service providers " I can't post the link on here.
Hi,
I'm headed to London and staying at the Mayfair Hotel off Straton. What are reputable escort agencies I can use? Also are there any nearby bars with potential talent? This is my first trip to London.
Thanks.I've never used escort agencies in London but posted links on few based on positive feedback by credible members of other sites and what few buds've told me about their experiences using them.
You didn't make yourself clear as to what you mean by, bars with potential talent? What are you looking for, freebies, hoes??
As you're in London for few days and with your budget, you'd be better of hitting one or 2 Gentleman's Clubs where you See Hostesses and Select the girl of your choice and agree a price for a take out. Most of the girls in such clubs are available for takeout once you spend some money inside the club. Best to have a quiet word with the manager and explain to him what you're looking for. Price around £500 ?
Here are some links to clubs close to your Hotel.
http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/mayfair/new_churchills_gentlemens_club_w1
http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/mayfair/the_gaslight_gentlemans_night_club_sw1y
http://www.no4mayfair.com/
Here's an interesting article on a Gentelman's club (Chaplin's) now closed, to give you an idea about prices. I and few buds who were on account did take out few girls from the club just before it was closed.
I bumped into Oscar the ex owner of the club about 6 years ago here at https://www.windmillinternational.com/.
If you get to try any of the clubs above, don't forget to post a review.
You tend to selectively quote evidence from on-line low quality taboid newspapers like the Daily Star ("Brothels thrive beside Olympic stadium") but only select the parts of the text that support your arguments.
You leave out parts like "the police may allege that the maid is selling sex and that the premises therefore counts as a brothel, especially if she / he is young" and from the Daily Star "Police closed 80 brothels in the 18 months before the Olympics in *Newham, east London".
Even the parts that you do quote "it may assist your defense if you have a clear written agreement on what your duties are" and "general (ly) you will not be committing an offence" show the tight rope that British based prostitutes walk to try and evade prosecution...You & others could be prosecuted as well by the Police for any the following.
1. It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament (27%.
2. It is an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British monarch upside-down.
3. In Liverpool, it is illegal for a woman to be topless except as a clerk in a tropical fish store.
4. Mince pies cannot be eaten on Christmas Day.
5. In Scotland, if someone knocks on your door and requires the use of your toilet, you must let them enter.
6. In the UK a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet.
7. The head of any dead whale found on the British coast automatically becomes the property of the King, and the tail of the Queen.
8. It is illegal not to tell the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing.
9. It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament in a suit of armor.
10. In the city of York it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow.
Quoted the above laws not from an " on-line low quality taboid newspapers like the Daily Star", But from a High Quality UK Newspaper http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568475/Ten-stupidest-laws-are-named.html.
If the above laws in The UK sound stupid, so do some of the laws in Germany, like " You can be fined 20 euros for calling someone an "arse" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/4399866/Ten-crazy-German-rules.html.
Some of you might know me from the FKK section anyway I'm in london for one day next Wednesday and I can't be bothered with the escort agencies due to misleading pics and phoenix club isn't my thing. Does anyone know of a really nice luxury type massage parlour or something similar where I can pick from a nice lineup rather than booking an escort girl whose facial appearance is alien. Any help appreciated.House of Divine, might be just what you're looking for, let us know how you get on!
http://www.houseofdivine.com/londonescortslocationone.php
House of Divine, might be just what you're looking for, let us know how you get on!
http://www.houseofdivine.com/londonescortslocationone.phpYou need to book an appointment with a named girl first. No line up to choose from once you get there.
House of Divine, might be just what you're looking for, let us know how you get on!
http://www.houseofdivine.com/londonescortslocationone.phpI might add that the present venue is no Luxury and can't be compared to FKK Clubs and of course No Lineup to choose from. Prior booking is always required. The first HOD in South Kensington was kinda of luxury apt.
The only places where there's a lineup are the dodgy ones operated by Romanians in not very nice parts of London.
Or expensive Gentleman's clubs where girls are available for take out. See my earlier post.
More misinformation as usual.
Can you name the member or members who said on this thread, that areas up to or more outside of the M25 are still in London.Apologies Jojo if I had a misunderstanding. It is just that when anyone asks for information on good brothels to go to in London or someone lays down a challenge that London does not really in actual fact have a good pay 4 play scene that you come up with a few names or newspaper quotes but much of the time they refer to places which are actually in Milton Keynes, Coventry or even Rotherham.
This made me think that perhaps you were genuinely having a hard time distinguishing between places which were actually geographically in London. As the London boundaries keep being redrawn year on year I can to some extent sympathize with this position.
Apologies Jojo if I had a misunderstanding. It is just that when anyone asks for information on good brothels to go to in London or someone lays down a challenge that London does not really in actual fact have a good pay 4 play scene that you come up with a few names or newspaper quotes but much of the time they refer to places which are actually in Milton Keynes, Coventry or even Rotherham.
This made me think that perhaps you were genuinely having a hard time distinguishing between places which were actually geographically in London. As the London boundaries keep being redrawn year on year I can to some extent sympathize with this position.For about the 5th time, I'll say it loud and clear for anyone looking at the London thread, including one very good poster from the FKK clubs recently, UNLESS YOU LIKE ESCORT AGENCIES or Adult Work LONDON IS USELESS as a mongering destination. Jojo quoted House of Divine so I visited the site. Guess what 87% of the girls are on Day Off, 2% of the girls actually work in London, and wait for it ALL of the rest work. In MILTON KEYNES. Which is NOT in London and is actually a long way from London.
Notice to all visitors to London: It is a great city to visit. It is absolutely hopeless as a mongering destination unless you will risk agencies and online ads. There is virtually NO decent walk up brothel where you can select from a line up. Go to MANCHESTER. The choice is abounding.
. It is just that when anyone asks for information on good brothels to go to in London or someone lays down a challenge that London does not really in actual fact have a good pay 4 play scene that you come up with a few names or newspaper quotes but much of the time they refer to places which are actually in Milton Keynes, Coventry or even Rotherham..Hi Myrch,
Good brothels and incalls as well as my current Hot list of girls in London I keep to myself or would only share them with members who've contributed to this thread (London). And for other reasons of my own I do not share info with others no matter what the challenge is or how the posts are worded.
Good job ISG is a very tolerant board unlike the other UK Sites. Find out for yourself how far you get there by posting your opinions or experiences there.
you come up with a few names or newspaper quotes but much of the time they refer to places which are actually in Milton Keynes,
This made me think that perhaps you were genuinely having a hard time distinguishing between places which were actually geographically in London. As the London boundaries keep being redrawn year on year I can to some extent sympathize with this position.For mongering purposes (I can't think of other reasons as Milton Keynes is flooded with EE Girls including many hot Romanian Girls) and how to get from Central London (Euston) to Milton Keynes by train ="The average journey time between London Euston and Milton Keynes Central is 35 minutes. The fastest journey time is 30 minutes. On an average weekday, there are 180 trains per day travelling from London Euston to Milton Keynes Central".
MK is faster to get to and back to Central London than many nice parts of London where there also some good Brothels and hot girls to be found.
From Central London to Wimbledon London SW19 it takes 39 minutes or longer https://www.thetrainline.com/train-times/london-eust London Euston.
Wimbledon Station (Plat 8). 39 m.
From Euston to Raynes Park London SW 20 it takes even Longer.
From Euston to Chiswick, London W4 it takes between 47 minutes to 52 https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=cr&ei=x8j1VKeyEdHUaqicgJgC#q=how+lon.
From Euston to Ealing Broadway and other parts of Ealing, London W5 it takes between 44 and 5 O minutes M https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=cr&ei=x8j1VKeyEdHUaqicgJgC#q=how+lon.
LOL, We all know the famous saying " Opinions are like arsholes, everyone has one. " But facts are slightly less so.
I'd agree with you. The standard and diversity of girls and sheer number of them is probably without equal. Most punters visit rather than live there.Here's the Operative word that sums up London mongering (diversity) that I keep banging on. Nowhere in the world you get this Mongering Diversity and certainly not in Rainy City, Manchester. LOL just found this out about Manchester where you get (Wet) 4 the wrong reasons, thanks to our friend google.
Unfortunately even with this diversity its like looking for Rocking Horse Shit when it comes to locating my favorite oriental girls (Korean) who are plentiful in LA & Houston Texas at affordable prices, black WGS in The US are also more plentiful, better quality and cheaper in real terms than in London.
Whenever you see ads for Korean or Japanese girls in London at Prices with Photos that look too good to be True ,99% of the time its Chinese. London is now Flooded with Chinese WGS and Brothels with a Lineup about 3 girls (ace massage) &other links.
London is not the right destination!
I agree but with a lot of hope I found a great swinger club its really great experience.
The owner is very friendly, the guest are really great, I am happy.
5 hrs of erotic play with 3 different laddies, there is couples and single ladies.
I was luck and played with 2 single ladies.
So having RTFF, I'm confused as to whether I should even bother looking for anything when I come over in October. I'm not a newbie to either mongering or London, but I don't monger as much as I would like.
From what I've "read" most of escort sites are bait & switch and there are too many EE girls also bait & switch.
So what's a tourist to do? Anyone out there want to help someone out with some suggestions on where to go for fun with no bull $hit. I'm staying in the Hammersmith area and would travel to anywhere along Paddington, Earl's Court, Sloane Square or West Kensington.
Slapster (from the US, feeling bummed out).
Pity to see that HoD has recently raised their prices. However it must still remain one of the best deals in London for both consistency and quality.
Recently had a great hour with Mira. Wow, that girl is so hot and fun to be with. The cutest girl that I have had in a long time which is really saying something.Prices are 70 \half br 130 HR. Very nice lobster Steak Bar and Restaurant close by.
A UK monger summed it up here on Lineup selection of Girls in London operating in brothels where one just turns up. . " An actual lineup of girls is somewhat old school and has gone the way of the golfball typewriter and the cuckoo clock. The newfangled fad called the Interweb (or "DubDubDub") seems to have superseded this old practice and the physical beauty parade has been replaced by something that the nerds call "Jpegs".
As posted below only Hostess & Gentlemens Clubs are still going strong.Retired mongers when they talk about the olden days often refer to an Agency Chelsea girls which was located in Knightsbridge. Beauchemp place. Line up of few girls to choose from or based on. Agency Album. 70 to the Agency plus 200 for the chosen girl. Rising rents plus online surfing must. We made the agency to close down. Hot girls 7\ 8 plus won't be found in a lineup in some apartments in London and waiting to be paraded in front of would be mongers who just turn up. Passing trade. Hot girls just like hot restaurants in London prior booking is a must. If you can just turn up and its ready. It can t be that Hot.
So having RTFF, I'm confused as to whether I should even bother looking for anything when I come over in October.
From what I've "read" most of escort sites are bait & switch and there are too many EE girls also bait & switch.
So what's a tourist to do? Anyone out there want to help someone out with some suggestions on where to go for fun with no bull $hit.Slapster (from the US, feeling bummed out).Forget SWs in London as this could get you arrested!
Your Kensignton and Hammersmith locations are good for the more expensive and possibly more attractive WGs but not necessarily good service providers. London involves lots of Home Work! Adultworks and Agency sites need to be scrutinized as we now live in the world of Photo Editing and Switch & Bait! For brothels that you just turn up and pick your partner go to Spain or FKKs in Germany. There is a Uk site for Punting that gives genuinely independent reviews of WGs unlike the Adultworks feedback! London is not easy but you can get a WG from any where in the world choosing to be based here or popping in for a few weeks at a time, some very attractive and some who are great service providers!
HI ISG,
How is going?
Was reading some articles then I got a message, friend of mine, which has shared this link on the Independant newspaper.
Paddington is targeted.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/london-to-get-coffee-and-fellatio-cafe-a7170266.html
Who know something about this new idea?
HI ISG,
How is going?
Was reading some articles then I got a message, friend of mine, which has shared this link on the Independant newspaper.
Paddington is targeted.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/london-to-get-coffee-and-fellatio-cafe-a7170266.html
Who know something about this new idea?I hope it works out I really do, but the idea of sitting in a cafe having a coffee while getting I presume a covered blowjob by a fully clothed girl doesn't really appeal to me. Plus 50 quid seems pricey.
Now if I could bend the girl over, pull down her pants and bury my face deep in her arse while everyone else looked on, well that would be much more enticing to me...might be available too.
I hope it works out I really do, but the idea of sitting in a cafe having a coffee while getting I presume a covered blowjob by a fully clothed girl doesn't really appeal to me. Plus 50 quid seems pricey.
Now if I could bend the girl over, pull down her pants and bury my face deep in her arse while everyone else looked on, well that would be much more enticing to me...might be available too.I guess if you are desperate, that may help you.
Interestingly, to compare prices between cities, for those thinking Tokyo is expensive, you can have everything Wanking is asking for, for about 3000 yens, which is less than 50 Pounds. Or, of course for even less in Bangkok.
Which of course is of little help to those of us living in London.
Well that would be very tame compared to what one could get by going up the stairs or down at AMPS on the same street, Praed St.
£40 Naked, BBBJ +69 and for another £10 or £ 20 FS, as well. From what I heard, even BBFS is offered (not for me).
Agree with Dreams about Tokyo, one of the sexiest cities on this planet from Shibuya to Akaska. Akaska the Kensington & Chelsea of Tokyo.
"Now if I could bend the girl over, pull down her pants and bury my face deep in her arse while everyone else looked on, well that would be much more enticing to me. Might be available too."
I agree, I would like too! But maybe this is not true and it's a market company which is doing the buzz.
By the way, tbh, I have visited https://bumpix.co.uk/en/london/escorts/jenna/ and she is awesome, thank you theIndependant!
Love blonde girl, love as fuck the MILF! Godness!
She is also in AW and viva.
Hi guys!
I have got a trip to England coming up. Definitely going to visit Manchester.
But as for London, has anyone here actually visited House of Divine and is able to comment in a little more detail? If it is as advertised, it seems to be the only "traditional" venue available.
Thanks in advance!
Global Surfer
08-06-16, 00:18
So having RTFF, I'm confused as to whether I should even bother looking for anything when I come over in October. I'm not a newbie to either mongering or London, but I don't monger as much as I would like.
From what I've "read" most of escort sites are bait & switch and there are too many EE girls also bait & switch.
So what's a tourist to do? Anyone out there want to help someone out with some suggestions on where to go for fun with no bull $hit. I'm staying in the Hammersmith area and would travel to anywhere along Paddington, Earl's Court, Sloane Square or West Kensington.
Slapster (from the US, feeling bummed out).Sheer size of number of ethnicities in London makes it an excellent mongering place though not necessarily for the tourist.
Your best bet is try House of Diving web site or read this forum and use websites recommended by mongers with over 100/200 posts.
Most sites in the world will not show the real picture of the girl. Can you imagine the quality of social life of the girl with her picture advertised on mongering web site. However, in most cased you will get a decent girl. In my opinion the difficult task is to get a GF experience.
There are lot of saunas in greater London that provide excellent quality and service from 60/70 per half hour. You can search this forum for Stratford sauna, This is expensive but usually have a line of 6-10.
Also they will try to sell you a big luxury room with a huge bath to charge almost 100 for a half hour session. For a half hour session you won't have time to use the bath.
Rahul Oracle
08-06-16, 19:40
On a business trip to London and last minute booking landed me in a stupid serviced apartment in Vauxhall. Request all you generous gents to share some advice as to how do I go about things. Have been through punter net and the typical websites but not convinced. Looking for outcall and strip club where a single Indian guy can safely spend some good time. My PM is active.
Thanks in anticipation.
So having RTFF, I'm confused as to whether I should even bother looking for anything when I come over in October.
So what's a tourist to do? Anyone out there want to help someone out with some suggestions on where to go for fun with no bull $hit. You would have thought it impossible for one of the world's leading cities like London, with several millions of people living here as well as hundreds of different nationalities, to not have numerous and wonderful pay for sex opportunities.
The problem is the conundrum: prostitution in London is technically legal but pretty much everything associated with it is illegal. The result is that prostitution operates mainly underground and you need to search hard for information about any decent places.
There are guys on here who allude to the fact that they have found a great sexual opportunity but stop short of actually providing enough information to enable anyone to take advantage of it. Why should that be? Maybe it is because these opportunities exist on the fringes of what is technically considered legal and they do not want to bring undue attention to them on a public forum. Or it could just be that these guys have worked damn hard to obtain the nuggets of information that they have so why should they just pass it over easily to those who haven't done anything like half the work (or even bothered to RTFF).
For sure this attitude would not work on other country threads (like some of the German / Thailand threads) because there are many, many examples of each type of sexual activity and information is already widely shared all over the internet. Hiding information would be futile, and anyone attempting to do that would be laughed at, because the reader could easily find what they need with a few mouse clicks or from other more cooperative board members.
In fact the problem in countries like Germany is the reverse. There are far too many excellent P4P opportunities and unless venues get enough guys going to them then they may go out of business. So readers have an incentive to freely share information.
My understanding is that the UK police and authorities are happy for semi-legal prostitution places to exist as long as long as the general public does not know about them and the only way to find out about them is through word of mouth or specialist sex internet sites like this. So there is no genuine need to hide information.
The situation on the London thread at present is not as bad as on a few other threads like the India threads where warnings are posted in different shaded colors for readers to stop talking in code and deliberately misleading other readers by falsifying the names of girls or places. Let's hope it doesn't get as bad as that on here.
You would have thought it impossible for one of the world's leading cities like London ............ prostitution operates mainly underground and you need to search hard for information about any decent places.
There are guys on here who allude to the fact that they have found a great sexual opportunity but stop short of actually providing enough information to enable anyone to take advantage of it. Why should that be? Maybe it is because these opportunities exist on the fringes of what is technically considered legal and they do not want to bring undue attention to them on a public forum. Or it could just be that these guys have worked damn hard to obtain the nuggets of information that they have so why should they just pass it over easily to those who haven't done anything like half the work (or even bothered to RTFF).
In fact the problem in countries like Germany is the reverse. There are far too many excellent P4P opportunities and unless venues get enough guys going to them then they may go out of business. So readers have an incentive to freely share information.Agree! This site and perhaps unique to the London thread attracts many Lurkers who are happy to take but reticent to contribute. Adultworks, Vivastreet, Backpage and Hallo are methods of finding indie WGs but the best feedback can be found on UK Punting. All the feedback found on Adultworks is not to be believed to be impartial!
You would have thought it impossible for one of the world's leading cities like London, with several millions of people living here as well as hundreds of different nationalities, to not have numerous and wonderful pay for sex opportunities.
The problem is the conundrum: prostitution in London is technically legal but pretty much everything associated with it is illegal. The result is that prostitution operates mainly underground and you need to search hard for information about any decent places..LOL. Of course a very objective and detailed post from someone who isn't a fan of any kind of mongering in London, dislikes English Girls, and wait for it. Rarely mongers in London anyway.
On English Girls http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?840-London&p=1840843&viewfull=1#post1840843.
"Yowsers ".
"Arsey, snidey, selfish, vain, materialistic, self-centered, self-obsessed, inconsiderate, fickle, scornful, stuck-up. ".
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?840-London&p=1807646#post1807646.
Still Victorian London.
Myrrh " I might be out of date myself because I rarely monger now in the UK".
nternationalsexguide.info/ forum / showthread. Php?840-London&p=1819112#post1819112.
Underground.
"If you have patience, persistence and plenty of time on your hands to do lots of research as well as painful trial-and-error then yes you will find things that are not well known to the general mongering public. However I don't have the time to keep on researching and digging. Nor do I have the money to make lots of expensive mistakes.
Unfortunately, I have had more success openly finding prostitution in unlikely places as far afield as Tel Aviv and Mumbai than in London".
The above sums it all up, LOL, The WGS of Mumbai and the rough looking WGS hanging around in Tel Aviv are a much better deal than The Great Mongering Opportunities one can find in London whether The English Girls of Reputable Agencies such as Allure, Hamilton escorts or the EE Girls with very good feedback posted by credible mongers.
Agree! This site and perhaps unique to the London thread attracts many Lurkers who are happy to take but reticent to contribute. Adultworks, Vivastreet, Backpage and Hallo are methods of finding indie WGs but the best feedback can be found on UK Punting. All the feedback found on Adultworks is not to be believed to be impartial!The site you mention is really great for feedback on AW Girls, But unlike the German threads on here it has ZERO tolerance for mongers& WGS who are into BB Sex and in fact there's a thread there under the title "London barebackers Blacklist ".
That site is also not as Tolerant or Liberal as ISG.
The site you mention is really great for feedback on AW Girls, But unlike the German threads on here it has ZERO tolerance for mongers& WGS who are into BB Sex and in fact there's a thread there under the title "London barebackers Blacklist ".
That site is also not as Tolerant or Liberal as ISG.Jojosun your knowledge of the London scene is surely unrivaled, always been impressed with your info, although Im rarely in london and don't Monger there.
I agree about that site being not as Tolerant or Liberal as ISG.
One of the best deals and close to the West End is The Griffin Strip Club with some amazing girls. Same formula a 1 in the jar, Free entry.
After 5 pm, another good option in the heart of the West End with free entry before 7 pm http://www.platinumlace.co.uk/clubs/london/opening-hours/.I have a problem with strip clubs. I hate giving girls lots of money for doing relatively little. However the strippers earn their living through guys doing just that. I unfortunately at one time got drawn into going to strip clubs regularly because it was a lot easier than trying to find a brothel in London where there were lots of girls to look at and you could make an evening of it relaxing with drinks. Brothels like these don't exist in London at least not legally. But I quickly got out of the habit because I realized that it was like paying lots of money for a medicine that made you feel better temporarily but did not actually administer a cure.
The guys who do best out of a strip club are the ones who go to one for the first time, but with the strength of mind not to spend a lot of money. The girls would be all over the new guy like a rash as they spot a fresh money line. Chatting to him for minutes on end, being over friendly, even touching him up. If the guy is smart he will string this out for as long as possible. Because once you have given a girl a dance many girls will calculate that a guy is highly unlikely to give them another one so soon so they will just ignore him after that. Even though they were all over him a short time earlier. Also these girls are wary of those hanger-on guys who because they have paid for a three minute dance are expecting some free company from the girl afterwards.
There are many guys who go to the same strip club regularly but don't splash the cash. The girls quickly work these guys out. They talk amongst themselves, as girls do, and these guys will find the girls completely blanking them but showing affection towards new guys or those who waste hundreds of pounds every visit.
The girls say that they hate the guys who are stingy with the money but they secretly respect them. For even though these girls earn 20 pounds for just 3 minutes work they would never go to a similar club with male strippers to waste money in the same manner as their customers. How can they respect a guy who acts like a fool with his money?
I've seen one stripper, who finished an early evening shift, changed into their ordinary street clothes waiting at a bus stop to get the bus home even though she must have earned in excess of 300 pounds for that shift. I once joked with a girl that she would probably go to the pound store with the pound that I had just put in her jug but she said quite seriously that she always goes to the 99 p or 98 p stores instead nowadays as they have recently opened. Not the pound store anymore.
Even though some of these strip places have free entry at least for the early part of the evening you will end up paying a king's ransom if you want to enjoy your evening.
Basically there are two kinds of clubs.
1. Where you put a pound in the jug every 3 to 5 minutes and the girls dance naked every 5 minutes.
2. Where you pay an entrance fee like 20 pounds or more to get in and the girls dance for free but usually only go topless when they dance. If you want to see them naked then you have to take them to a private room or sneak a glance at a nearby table where a guy is paying 20 pounds or more for a girl to strip (but then you would be maybe 10 meters away and so could not get a good look). At these places the 'free' dances only happen every 15 or 20 minutes so you will have a long time between dances to twiddle your thumbs with no action happening.
Either way if you want to make an evening of it and spend 3 to 4 hours at the club then you are looking at spending over 100 pounds and more likely 200 pounds with no real sex to show for it at the end.
Even with the low cost option, the pound in the jug places, you are looking at spending 20 pounds every hour just to be there. So 80 pounds after 4 hours plus 5 pounds for each drink and 20 pounds each time you go for a private dance. So even with free entry you end up paying a lot at the end.
The pound in a jug places are uncomfortable places to stay for long. They are normally small pubs with crowds of guys and very limited number of seats. You are constantly being jostled and barged into by drunk, sweaty guys. Meanwhile you are also being pressurized and harassed by women to go for a dance and deliberately and rudely cold-shouldered if you don't.
There are some 'pseudo-gynecologists' who manage to grab a seat next to the stage and nurse a pint of beer for an hour. They are the only ones who get maximum enjoyment for low-cost. Other guys get suckered into going for half a dozen or more dances and end up 200 to 300 pounds down on the evening.
The funny thing is that the dances themselves are not particularly a turn on. They are just pre-rehearsed moves which you get bored with seeing after a while. If they spent the 3 minutes with their legs wide open fingering themselves or you were allowed to finger them or they could massage your dick through your clothes with their hands then it wouldn't be so bad. But they are strictly not allowed to otherwise the club would be closed down. The best bit, which is the free bit, is where the girls are chatting you up trying to get you to go for a dance. Some guys are very good at keeping the girls talking, sometimes up to 20 minutes or more, whilst never having any intention of going for a dance. They don't really care that they are wasting the girl's time. However, word quickly gets round.
Another funny thing is that most of the girls are not particularly attractive. Most could not hack it as a prostitute with their cellulite, double bellies and hound dog faces. There does not seem to be any quality control apparently at many of these strip clubs. However, these girls are there taking hundreds of pounds a day off drunk, desperate guys when the same guys would not look twice at a photo of the same girl if she posted it on AdultWork.
As for the often touted fallacy that sex is easy to come by at these clubs, if I had a pound for every time I have overheard a guy asking a girl who he has had several dances with for her phone number and the girl brushing him off, I would have enough money to spend several nights at these clubs.
The genuinely attractive girls at these bars will easily collect 600 pounds or more per night. I've seen girls go for 10 or more dances on average per hour at 20 pounds a time, during a 6 hour shift. You do the maths. Also some of these clubs have VIP rooms where the best girls spend most of their time with guys at 300 or 500 pounds for 30 minutes company. By the end of the evening these girls will have had a few big spenders ask her if she was available later on so why should she choose you. In fact why should she choose anyone at all if she is earning 20 pounds for 3 minutes work unless that guy is willing to match or better her evening's earnings. In any case the vast majority of these girls have 'boyfriends' who collect them at the end of the shift. These guys want to protect their investment. There is no 'safe' at the club for the girls to stash their money and they don't want to travel home alone with lots of money in their handbags and they probably won't want to go home with some guy they have just met if they are carrying lots of dough.
So in a nutshell, lap / table dancing is a loser's game, reserved for those guys who have money to lose and don't mind paying their hard earned money for a sex substitute which isn't really sex.
I have a problem with strip clubs..So you have and not for the first time either
I myself at one time got drawn into the habit of going to lap dancing clubs on a regular basis because there were no other real entertainment possibilities
Getting into the habit of going regularly to these clubs as your main 'sexual' outlet can be seriously injurious to your wealth!Which begs the question, Why not stick to Mongering fields you seem to know best and are a lot Cheaper than London, such as Mumbai, Given your success rate there?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgfBVA8hgow.
Unfortunately, I have had more success openly finding prostitution in unlikely places as far afield as Mumbai than in London".
For others who were Whinging about "The Huge Costs" of going to such clubs in East London which are free entry & normal bar prices, they can try cutting costs and dodge the 1 collection Jug by becoming a "Jug Dodger.
This is a punter who knows he must put a pound in the jug but goes all out to avoid paying. Dancers are adept at spotting jug dodgers who's behavior will give him away. He will suddenly be going to the toilet or out to smoke when you are collecting and as soon as he hears the dancer announced on stage he will suddenly appear back in the pub, at the front of the stage."Had I not followed tips on this forum about Strip Pubs in the East End (thanks to Dreams), I wouldn't have been able to monger with a lovely Young Black Stripper by the name of Jai after she stopped working there. Jai was one of the best looking girls at one of the Shoredtich Clubs. Waited for the right time and got a fantastic enthusiastic session at a much lower price than what I would've paid had I asked her inside the club when she was working there.
Here she's https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3034662&Keywords=&KeySearch=1&TargetURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eadultwork%2Ecom%2F.
https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3034662&Keywords=&KeySearch=1&TargetURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eadultwork%2Ecom%2FSearch%
A threesome can be had as well http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3581161.
There are other girls as well. . Obviously not suitable for "Jug Dodgers " and tight fist miserable old gits LOL.
Had I not followed tips on this forum about Strip Pubs in the East End (thanks to Dreams), I wouldn't have been able to monger with a lovely Young Black Stripper by the name of Jai after she stopped working there. Jai was one of the best looking girls at one of the Shoredtich Clubs. Waited for the right time and got a fantastic enthusiastic session at a much lower price than what I would've paid had I asked her inside the club when she was working there.
Here she's https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3034662&Keywords=&KeySearch=1&TargetURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eadultwork%2Ecom%2F.
https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3034662&Keywords=&KeySearch=1&TargetURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eadultwork%2Ecom%2FSearch%
A threesome can be had as well http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3581161.
There are other girls as well. . Obviously not suitable for "Jug Dodgers " and tight fist miserable old gits LOL.Jai can be had for £20 cheaper than on adultwork London location by heading to Milton Keynes just 3 o /35 minutes away on the train from Central.
London. . http://www.annabellasescorts.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=704. The train fare can be cost effective by mongering with other girls there as well.
And here's another Ex Stripper who used to dance at The World famous Stringfellows in London, Paris the ex queen of Soho ,4 Old Compton Street aka LOL Rue De Vaseline, https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1573617&Keywords=&KeySearch=1&TargetURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eadultwork%2Ecom%2FSearch%2Easp www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1573617&Keywords=&KeySearch=1&TargetURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adultwork.com%2FSearch.asp.
Paris was doing Tricks even when she was dancing at SF Club,But in her words on her Profile "I used to be a stripper at a well known club but came to the conclusion that escorting is simply much more fun and it involves more personal intimacy and I just love sex so just dancing couldn't satisfy me enough" Very wise words from Paris who I can confirm is a lot of fun and is an excellent example of a young Romanian Girl who moved with her family to London when she was very young, a lot of sex helped her to integrate so well now she's very much British in every way. Had the pleasure with her few times. A great actress as well in the bedroom.
She tours around London but she works mainly in London. Paris is now in Guildford a really beautiful town with some of the nicest beautiful English girls to be found.
Would love to do a 3 some with Jai and Paris. I have to wait when both are in London.
I saw Yasmin (http://www.wildorchidescorts.co.uk/yasmin.php) on my trip to London recently. Called her agency on a Monday morning to find about Aziza (http://www.wildorchidescorts.co.uk/aziza.php) but she was not available on that day. With weather turning gloomy I opted for Yasmin to come to my hotel for 1 HR RDV.
She was bit about 15 minutes late but that is not the issue. The main issue was that she tried to rush her services. Came hurriedly inside room, took money, took off clothes and wanted action straight away. I was in the mood for some chitchat but no. When Ai touched her face she reminded me that I was ruing her makeup. She started with covered BJ and then asked me to mount her after sometime. The whole she was rubbing my balls calling me to cum for her. Normally I like to take pace my self and don't need instructions but Yasmin was making it hard for me. I did eventually cum but I would rather not see her again.
Her mood improved after the action, tried to sweet talk to me try incall sometime. She and her friends will take good care etc. The pictures on the webpage are hers but they are retouched. I usually like orient girls or girls from Indian subcontinent but the experience with Yasmin was not good. Would rate her 2.5/5.
Best,
AQ
I saw Yasmin (http://www.wildorchidescorts.co.uk/yasmin.php) on my trip to London recently. Called her agency on a Monday morning to find about Aziza (http://www.wildorchidescorts.co.uk/aziza.php) but she was not available on that day. With weather turning gloomy I opted for Yasmin to come to my hotel for 1 HR RDV.
She was bit about 15 minutes late but that is not the issue. The main issue was that she tried to rush her services. Came hurriedly inside room, took money, took off clothes and wanted action straight away. I was in the mood for some chitchat but no. When Ai touched her face she reminded me that I was ruing her makeup. She started with covered BJ and then asked me to mount her after sometime. The whole she was rubbing my balls calling me to cum for her. Normally I like to take pace my self and don't need instructions but Yasmin was making it hard for me. I did eventually cum but I would rather not see her again.
Her mood improved after the action, tried to sweet talk to me try incall sometime. She and her friends will take good care etc. The pictures on the webpage are hers but they are retouched. I usually like orient girls or girls from Indian subcontinent but the experience with Yasmin was not good. Would rate her 2.5/5.
Best,
AQThanks for your report. Yet another punter who called an agency in London, got a girl whose pics were photoshopped, and dreadful service. I was in London 3 nights ago and decided to have a good meal, some nice wine, and went to bed with a book. It is just not even worth the hassle of trying to find a decent girl in London. As previously reported, there is no real place in central London were you can walk up, select from 4 or 5 girls in a LU, and have fun. AW. Hit and miss. Escorts are hit and miss. Swinger parties not for all. The few decent walk ups are not in central London other than in Soho where the quality tends to be very low indeed. What a great shame that such a lovely city is such a poor mongering destination.
Its all in the Title http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-28/brexit-vote-sends-tourists-flocking-to-london-to-buy-buy-buy.
Personally I know many repeat visitors and tourists from the other side of the Atlantic who are now in London to enjoy a city they love and know so well and also to Buy a lot of Sex as well helped by the plunge of the £ against the US $. These guys are into mongering with Classy English girls working for High end escort agencies but many of them prefer to Wine and Dine at luxurious Gentlemen's clubs with a selection of Girls 30/40 . Their deep pockets can afford it. I might add quite few of these guys know a lot about Mongering in Germany as they were stationed there in the past (US Military) before and after FKK clubs surfaced there around 1986, But they seem to prefer mongering with classy Top English girls. Who we all know are to be found in London.
This London thread is the place to report and read on Links and experiences on reputable escort agencies as its a more Reilable source of Info for short term visitors than trawling other UK sites which are more useful for Mongers who live in London and close who know the city and have a lot of time to research adultwork girls who do need a lot of research. .
Citing one perceived Sad Tale of mongering with an Iranian / Persian escort in London not working for one of the top recommended agencies doesn't by all accounts make London bad for Mongering.
Agree! This site and perhaps unique to the London thread attracts many Lurkers who are happy to take but reticent to contribute. Adultworks, Vivastreet, Backpage and Hallo are methods of finding indie WGs but the best feedback can be found on UK Punting. All the feedback found on Adultworks is not to be believed to be impartial!Agree with your comments.
With all the Hoo- Hah about Central London Brothels where one just turns up and select from a line up of 3 /4 girls, there are many if one is prepared to do a bit of leg work.
Only yesterday my buddy and I (a frequent visitor to London) were walking down Kinghtsbridge which can't be more central than that with the world known Harrods its best landmark, as were heading towards The Victoria and Albert museum there was this Phone Box with cards of various girls.
Phoned one of the numbers there and was answered by a Foreign sounding lady who said there were 4 girls working and one can just turn up and select from the line up. Open till very late.
Long story short. . The Brothel, Walk up, walk in, Select and Fuck, was just down the road near the corner of Cromwell Road with Gloucester Road, London SW7 . Prices £60/£80 for 20 minutes,£100 1/2 hour,£ 150 one hour. Very safe area.
Buddy chose one very attractive girl from the Line up for the 1/2 hour session but I told the maid I will be back later in the week as I wasn't in the mood.
Anyone wanting the number of this place, its there in the Phonebox on the Corner of Brompton Square and Brompton Road on the same side of the Victoria and Albert Museum.
There are more cards for Brothels in the area in the phone box opposite the museum, on Thurloe Place corner with Thurloe Square.
Of course there are many more just venues in Central London all covered in the forum you cited above.
Agree with your comments.
With all the Hoo- Hah about Central London Brothels where one just turns up and select from a line up of 3 /4 girls, there are many if one is prepared to do a bit of leg work.
Only yesterday my buddy and I (a frequent visitor to London) were walking down Kinghtsbridge which can't be more central than that with the world known Harrods its best landmark, as were heading towards The Victoria and Albert museum there was this Phone Box with cards of various girls.
Phoned one of the numbers there and was answered by a Foreign sounding lady who said there were 4 girls working and one can just turn up and select from the line up. Open till very late..The number of this Walk up, Walk in, select from a Line Up, pay & fuck on Cromwell Road London SW7, ends with 3 0 6 8 as shown on one of the cards. LOL, lurkers and lazy mongers who are at present in London can make their own way down there and find out for themselves as there's no point in feeding them intel as they could easily find out for themselves by doing some research and a bit of leg work. This what mongering is all about.
For other areas such as Paddington, off Oxford street, cards are the way to find the venues as such places don't advertise on the internet. Cab drivers hanging around Lap Dancing clubs in The West End late at night will usually do the usual touting for such places but of course at inflated prices.
All I can say is that Yelp in the UK is a lot more open minded than in the US. I think if they ran a page on erotic massage over here, they'd have bible thumpers picketing their office. But in London plenty of listings on https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=eroticmassage&find_loc=London.
Question for the forum is whether any of the places listed there are worth visiting?
Scraggy
Kingmax Xx
09-03-16, 16:25
Hi,
I wonder if anyone use soulmate agency. How is it?
www.soulmateescorts.com
BritIndcpl
09-07-16, 12:03
Hi,
I have been using and going to some massage parlors / Spa and parties (LMP / Phoenix etc. My posts are still here) but my wife has found out! Yes it's been hell for a few weeks but out of this we emerged as a swinging couple in UK. We have met several Indian / Asian couples already from another site.
It makes for a good topic of conversation, how I got caught and how we are together etc. So if anybody wishes to know us we can meet for a social and tell you about us. Guys, with your partner, chat over coffee I'm sure women will find it intriguing.
My last punting experience was a scam. Friend and I rang a number off a website, took a taxi to the place. Pressed the buzzer and you know the story a guy came in from the streets and said he knew the girl etc. Ended up paying him the money on the stairwell and he scarpered off. I'm so glad my wife has found out about my dirty habits.
Woodypussy1967
09-07-16, 17:51
Are there any parties equivalent to Ladymarmalade parties?
BritIndcpl
09-08-16, 09:34
Regarding parties like LMP. If you don't mind lower quality then head for Paradise Spa in Becontree (londonadultpartyclub) on Wednesdays afternoon and evenings. But expect to wait in line with other men. Normally up to 11 women and 30 men but you do get 3 hrs and a nice hot tub and the odd pizza. Rooms are tiny not the openness swinger style of LMP but it's very cheap.
Hi does anyone know any Katy Perry lookalike escort any info would be greatly appreciated.
The number of this Walk up, Walk in, select from a Line Up, pay & fuck on Cromwell Road London SW7, ends with 3 0 6 8 as shown on one of the cards. LOL, lurkers and lazy mongers who are at present in London can make their own way down there and find out for themselves as there's no point in feeding them intel as they could easily find out for themselves by doing some research and a bit of leg work. So we are now expected to hang around the telephone boxes in London, going from box to box like feral rats, searching for tit bits of information on cards ending with the number 068?
Didn't you know that the telephone companies cut off hundreds of telephone numbers every single day that are reported to them as being used on prostitution cards in telephone boxes? So sex workers are constantly changing their numbers. You could be sending our readers out on a totally pointless search.
Maybe not obvious to everybody, but the pictures and claimed services on the cards have as much relation to reality as Noddy. Cards are only worth pursuing if you want to participate in this guerrilla war against the authorities.
I am in london Hounslow for almost a year. And gone tru the add on adult work, vivastreet Friday adds. Been calling the numbers whole day but no response. Most of the adds are posted by agency. I had a bad experince. I went to the hotel only to know that I was chatting to the agency when I met the girl in the room the girl denied GFE and asked me if I want to stay or go. I opted to go. Guys be careful of this adds. They cheat the people.
Thanks.
So we are now expected to hang around the telephone boxes in London, going from box to box like feral rats, searching for tit bits of information on cards ending with the number 068?
Didn't you know that the telephone companies cut off hundreds of telephone numbers every single day that are reported to them as being used on prostitution cards in telephone boxes? So sex workers are constantly changing their numbers. You could be sending our readers out on a totally pointless search.So was in London last night and really fancied some fun having had a great day of successful business deals. Spent almost 3 hours on escort websites (because as previously reported there are no good well known brothels in the very centre of London to go to). Looked at Viva street. Hopeless. AW is SO unreliable. Backpage is for cheap options and I'm sure there is a real gem or two but finding them would take months of many disappointments. So decided to resort, as ever in central London, to agencies. Picked out a stunner from one of the many agencies. Looked amazing on the site. Got to my room after 20 minutes and boy. Completely different girl. Much fatter, and not pretty at all. What do you do? Say no and try another agency in the hope and prayer that you'll get one that looks like the pictures, or just make do with the girl in front of you even though you don't find her attractive? Decided to pass, told her she is not the girl in the picture. She argues she was. I zoom in to her lower section on the site and ask "is that really you? I know this is harsh but I'd have had more respect if she'd told the truth. She finally admits that the girl in the picture is a model and not with this agency. I tell her I'll pass. She asks for £120! I start laughing and tell her I've had no service and she has admitted I've been conned. She leaves really unhappy and I retire to bed completely frustrated.
As previously reported, and many times, if you are in CENTRAL London and want some fun, you are really going to find anything reliable very hard to come by. I just wish I didn't have to go to London so often. Great city, awful for mongering if you want a reliable face to face selection. All the previous reports of "do your research" are just a nonsense. I did 3 hours research and got nowhere. Sure if I want to go out to far flung locations it is fine. But whereas you can walk around Manchester City centre and pick any of 4 or 5 excellent establishments, clean, with a great selection of girls to choose from so you need not trust to luck, London just does NOT have that facility. Certainly not in the centre. If I'm wrong. Please don't post cryptic clues (Jojo and Dreams please note) - provide a proper link please to a good place in the West End or near Holborn which has a selection of 4 or 5 girls you can choose from on the spot. If it exists I will be delighted and amazed in equal measure.
Note to tourists to London. Get a 2 hour train to Manchester if you want real choice to select from eye to eye.
I am in london Hounslow for almost a year. And gone tru the add on adult work, vivastreet Friday adds. Been calling the numbers whole day but no response. Most of the adds are posted by agency. I had a bad experince. I went to the hotel only to know that I was chatting to the agency when I met the girl in the room the girl denied GFE and asked me if I want to stay or go. I opted to go. Guys be careful of this adds. They cheat the people.
Thanks.Hi Star,
You could've done yourself and other readers of this thread a favor by posting the Essentials to any report to make it useful and informative, like name of agency, Link? Name of the Escort? Price & services advertised and agreed? Could job you a didn't your report on any of the well known UK sites. Other readers take note.
Your report as it is make it as useful as the novel (The Missing Link) by Kate Thompson.
The number of this Walk up, Walk in, select from a Line Up, pay & fuck on Cromwell Road London SW7, ends with 3 0 6 8 as shown on one of the cards. LOL, lurkers and lazy mongers who are at present in London can make their own way down there and find out for themselves as there's no point in feeding them intel as they could easily find out for themselves by doing some research and a bit of leg work. This what mongering is all about.
For other areas such as Paddington, off Oxford street, cards are the way to find the venues as such places don't advertise on the internet. Cab drivers hanging around Lap Dancing clubs in The West End late at night will usually do the usual touting for such places but of course at inflated prices.Cards still there and the the Phones were working for the 2 Brothels in the Upmarket area of Kensington and Chelsea. Cards don't show Services but only fake photos for obvious reasons.
One such Brothel is on Cromwell Road London SW 5 Close to 2 Underground stations and the other is on Warmick road London SW 5 close to Ear's Court Underground Station. Both brothels with a selection of Girls up to 4.
There are very few on here who have no intention of Mongering in London whether its Sex Parties, Escorts, Agencies, Brothels and others who are into Very Adventurous Sex venues such as in Germany's http://www.spermagames.com/ or Bareback Gangbang Parties, Wherever Brothels are located in London by constantly changing the Goal Posts. .
As there's ZERO tolerance for such posts on the well known UK sites for Mongering as the Girls and Mongers get Black listed f,it only leaves ISG for posting their Opinions on London Mongering for whatever its worth if its worth anything of Value to Mongers who are not so Adventurous.
Cards still there and the the Phones were working for the 2 Brothels in the Upmarket area of Kensington and Chelsea. Cards don't show Services but only fake photos for obvious reasons.
One such Brothel is on Cromwell Road London SW 5 Close to 2 Underground stations and the other is on Warmick road London SW 5 close to Ear's Court Underground Station. Both brothels with a selection of Girls up to 4.
There are very few on here who have no intention of Mongering in London whether its Sex Parties, Escorts, Agencies, Brothels and others who are into Very Adventurous Sex venues such as in Germany's http://www.spermagames.com/ or Bareback Gangbang Parties, Wherever Brothels are located in London by constantly changing the Goal Posts. .
As there's ZERO tolerance for such posts on the well known UK sites for Mongering as the Girls and Mongers get Black listed f,it only leaves ISG for posting their Opinions on London Mongering for whatever its worth if its worth anything of Value to Mongers who are not so Adventurous.Some typing errors hitting the wrong keys and having few beers on a lovely warm day. Apologies for the above in my 2 posts below. BTW just left the Bunch of Grapes Pub in Knightsbridge And the 3 phone boxes, opposite are plastered with cards.
I am in london Hounslow for almost a year. And gone tru the add on adult work, vivastreet Friday adds. Been calling the numbers whole day but no response. Most of the adds are posted by agency.
Thanks.Calling numbers all day and no response? LOL. Were you doing collect call. Reverse charge?
I've posted several comments about London being hopeless for mongering so thought I should at least post positively on one of the few good experiences I've had.
At the point of giving up on agencies, and having reported on my disappointment a few nights ago (and with the need to relieve the frustration), headed to Soho and went to White Lily Spa and saw lovely blonde Christina. Terrific body, great personality and attitude. HJ only but performed naked. 1. 5 hours, great time, damage £150. She would have taken less had I negotiated harder but she truly was exceptional at what she did. I don't think full service is available in this place but then I didn't ask.
For the benefit of guys from outside The UK and others not familiar with the area which now boasts the best show of Wealth on wheels with one side it looks like Dubai and the other near Buddha Bar a bit of Moscow. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIM_Erhg24Y http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2765304/Oh-BAII-BYY-Russian-woman-outdoes-Arab-playboys-parking-crystal-encrusted-Mercedes-outside-Knightsbridge-hotel.html. Plenty of Flirting and cruising going on there and many. Many very liberated Beautiful Gulf Arab girls in the Area and I am sure I. Have seen young very attractive girls who were pros or looked like looking to do tricks. Useful for someone with Arabic skills. Considering all the wealth on display in the area. The prices for Brothels there shown in cards 150 for one hour isn. T bad at all but not for me as I like booking in advance with my favorite girls. Apologies for typo mistakes on this device but I am sure you. The get the message.
PeterMills
09-15-16, 18:46
I was feeling horny last night and really fancied to call up a girl. Some time ago I came across Amber's profile here: http://exclusivegirlfriends.co.uk/surrey_escorts/Amber_504.html and read good reviews about her, so I decided to check her availability. Lucky me she was available almost right away! Clear and simple instructions for arrival at her flat in Guildford's town center made things seamless.
On arrival greeted with a hug and a kiss before sorting the paperwork and having a quick shower. Coming out of the shower I was greeted by a naked Amber (whose body is fantastic) and the DFK started with lots of touching all over before moving into the bedroom. Fantastic CBJ and mutual oral leading into some even better sex! Finished off with a nice massage. Easy to converse with, fun and friendly I had an excellent time with Amber and will definitely be seeing her again before she leaves.
I was feeling horny last night and really fancied to call up a girl. Some time ago I came across Amber's profile here: http://exclusivegirlfriends.co.uk/surrey_escorts/Amber_504.html and read good reviews about her, so I decided to check her availability. Lucky me she was available almost right away! Clear and simple instructions for arrival at her flat in Guildford's town center made things seamless.
On arrival greeted with a hug and a kiss before sorting the paperwork and having a quick shower. Coming out of the shower I was greeted by a naked Amber (whose body is fantastic) and the DFK started with lots of touching all over before moving into the bedroom. Fantastic CBJ and mutual oral leading into some even better sex! Finished off with a nice massage. Easy to converse with, fun and friendly I had an excellent time with Amber and will definitely be seeing her again before she leaves.Thanks for the report. Guildford a beautiful town and only half hour on a fast train from London. Beautiful countryside and amazing girls. Civvies. And pros. The Surrey girls. Must be the fresh air and the affluence of the area. There was another agency in Guildford called Guildford Gold that I think relocated to Cambreley. Surrey under a New name, Surrey Gems.
How much did Amber cost?
Pilsnerdrinker
09-16-16, 11:54
I've posted several comments about London being hopeless for mongering so thought I should at least post positively on one of the few good experiences I've had.
At the point of giving up on agencies, and having reported on my disappointment a few nights ago (and with the need to relieve the frustration), headed to Soho and went to White Lily Spa and saw lovely blonde Christina. Terrific body, great personality and attitude. HJ only but performed naked. 1. 5 hours, great time, damage 150. She would have taken less had I negotiated harder but she truly was exceptional at what she did. I don't think full service is available in this place but then I didn't ask.That used to be a clip joint I think. I have walked passed it a few times and the lady standing outside always asks "massage". It looks a bit dodgy so have never been inside.
That used to be a clip joint I think. I have walked passed it a few times and the lady standing outside always asks "massage". It looks a bit dodgy so have never been inside.I take umbrage at London being 'hopeless'. I've had some of my finest punts in the world's greatest city. OK I'll declare my hand. I'm a Brit (Londoner) living abroad. I travel extensively through Europe, the Middle East, Far East and US. It just takes a little bit of research. AW is a great resource, and it's easy to determine which are genuine and which are not. A huge number of Agencies ply their trade, and there's a mutitude of other sources.
Just takes a (very happy) moment or two to research.
I take umbrage at London being 'hopeless'. I've had some of my finest punts in the world's greatest city. OK I'll declare my hand. I'm a Brit (Londoner) living abroad. I travel extensively through Europe, the Middle East, Far East and US. It just takes a little bit of research. AW is a great resource, and it's easy to determine which are genuine and which are not. A huge number of Agencies ply their trade, and there's a mutitude of other sources.
Just takes a (very happy) moment or two to research.LOL. Apparently its so. Hopeless in London. Someone whose name escapes me. Wanted moderators not that long ago to close this London thread. LOL.
Stayed at a reasonable little hotel in Paddington Sunday, and about 7 in the evening got 'the itch'. Went for a wander up London Street, turned left at the station and lo and behold a doorway, set of stairs and a sign above advertising Chinese Massage. What the hell. Went up, paid my 35 for 45 minutes and was accompanied to small cubicle by a small Chinese lady. Not unattractive and some boobage on show.
Offered a shower but had just had one. Naked face down and a very reasonable back and neck massage followed. Her name was Lulu, been in London 4 years but first day at this establishment. Then massage moved to legs and then the tell-tale fluttering between the legs. Next the inevitable question. 30 for HJ, but invited me to make an offer for anything else. Said she did everything, so I said how about everything? Still I had to make the offer. Said 100 and she agreed. There followed a highly professional bbj. I returned the compliment during which she reckoned she had cum, then on with the hood, I bent her over the massage table and took her hard from behind. To the accompaniment of squeals and exhortations. Then I turned her on her back, her lying across the table, me on my feet. More firm banging with her playing with her clit at the same time. During my oral ministrations and with the help of oil I had 2 fingers and for a brief moment 3 in her arse. We broke off fucking and I attempted to enter her arse..Most of the girls at this place are up for FS. Price range 50/60. With a regular even 40.
That used to be a clip joint I think. I have walked passed it a few times and the lady standing outside always asks "massage". It looks a bit dodgy so have never been inside.http://www.massageshopsuk.com/shops/white-lily-spa
It was a clip joint before. Now I hear a Chinese girl bought the place along with what used to be a Peep Show. Now its a massage place. Some orientals and EE girls. More expensive than similar places in Soho, most make their money from the passing trade. More expensive extras on the menu.
Thanks for the report. Guildford a beautiful town and only half hour on a fast train from London. Beautiful countryside and amazing girls. Civvies. And pros. The Surrey girls. Must be the fresh air and the affluence of the area. There was another agency in Guildford called Guildford Gold that I think relocated to Camberly. Surrey under a New name, Surrey Gems..Guildford girls incalls agency had some amazing girls at a location close to the high st. The town on its own is worth the 1/2 hour train ride from London, easier to get to than many parts of inner London and much prettier as well https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IfWIprGQDgk.. As in real estate, mongering has a lot to do with, location, location, location.
As previously reported, and many times, if you are in CENTRAL London and want some fun, you are really going to find anything reliable very hard to come by.
Note to tourists to London. Get a 2 hour train to Manchester if you want real choice to select from eye to eye.My experience is totally opposite to you. I live in London and have been punting in Central London for many years. You have to do your research and you have great punts.
Manchester. Don't live there, but I was up there few weeks ago and didn't enjoy the 2 punts I had there. To each his own I guess.
I take umbrage at London being 'hopeless'. I've had some of my finest punts in the world's greatest city. OK I'll declare my hand. I'm a Brit (Londoner) living abroad. I travel extensively through Europe, the Middle East, Far East and US. It just takes a little bit of research. AW is a great resource, and it's easy to determine which are genuine and which are not. A huge number of Agencies ply their trade, and there's a mutitude of other sources.
Just takes a (very happy) moment or two to research.It takes much, much longer than that if one is looking for something a lot more adventurous, not for me.
Like this Q and A on adult work.com which makes it, Hopeless, for some http://www.adultwork.com/ViewPro file. ASP? UserID=3572837. Q Do I do bareback? A is there on the profile, hence.
Since there is some discussion about decent providers in London, some good, some bad; I thought I'd ask about these two.
Kara Rose http://kara-rose.co.uk/.
And.
Nappy Valley ***** http://nappyvalley*****.squarespace.com/.
Any thoughts or experiences.
Slapster
Hi Star,
You could've done yourself and other readers of this thread a favor by posting the Essentials to any report to make it useful and informative, like name of agency, Link? Name of the Escort? Price & services advertised and agreed? Could job you a didn't your report on any of the well known UK sites. Other readers take note.
Your report as it is make it as useful as the novel (The Missing Link) by Kate Thompson.Hey Jojo,
Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on the guy. It would seem on here that readers generally tend to check the vibe of the other posts in a thread and adjust their style accordingly.
So perhaps Star got the impression, rightly or wrongly, from the posts on here that it wasn't the done thing in the London thread to give away too much information about places they had found. Just like in the post below?
LOL, lurkers and lazy mongers who are at present in London can make their own way down there and find out for themselves as there's no point in feeding them intel as they could easily find out for themselves by doing some research and a bit of leg work. This what mongering is all about.
I take umbrage at London being 'hopeless'. I've had some of my finest punts in the world's greatest city. OK I'll declare my hand. I'm a Brit (Londoner) living abroad. I travel extensively through Europe, the Middle East, Far East and US. It just takes a little bit of research. AW is a great resource, and it's easy to determine which are genuine and which are not. A huge number of Agencies ply their trade, and there's a mutitude of other sources.
Just takes a (very happy) moment or two to research.We are of course all entitled to our opinions. For me, having mongered in Dubai, Australia, US, Sri Lanka, UAE, Spain, Germany, Prague, Barbados, Mauritius, Thailand and Poland, as well as nearly every major city in the UK. London is, indeed hopeless in terms of reliability. It is just so hit and miss. You say that with "a little bit of research" it is good. So ISG is a place for the sharing of information. Pray share. Tell us the results of your successful research. Where did you go for "some of (your) finest punts"? Give us some links to make the research easier.
The "do your research" line gets trotted out more on the London thread than any other on ISG. Usually without much corroborative evidence. Please provide some. It just might help other very experienced mongers (like me) reconsider the justifiably held view that London is hopeless.
My experience is totally opposite to you. I live in London and have been punting in Central London for many years. You have to do your research and you have great punts.
Manchester. Don't live there, but I was up there few weeks ago and didn't enjoy the 2 punts I had there. To each his own I guess.I'm honestly delighted your experience is different to mine given that you live in London. So pray let us have the secrets. Instead of leaving members of this forum to guess (or get lucky with their "research") share the information please. You may have noticed that another post recently (not from you) gave almost the identical response. Umbrage at my description of London being hopeless and giving me a great tip. To do my research. I'm not lazy. I've spent many hours on research about mongering options in London. They come down to: swinger type parties, Soho walk ups where you have no idea what you'll get, AMPS, thousands of photoshopped girls on agency ads, ditto on adultwork, lots of false reviews, girls who turn up who look absolutely nothing like the girl you selected on the website, and more recently, the suggestion that you head all the way to one area of London in search of those cars in phone boxes which have particular numbers at the end! So you see, having travelled most of the globe mongering and having found London to be very poor in comparison not only to many other countries but also to several large cities around the UK (Manchester being the best and trust me I'm not Mancunian) if you say great punts are available in London, and I have no reason to doubt you, then do the forum a real service and provide the results of YOUR successful research which have given you some great punts. The forum is about sharing. If you read many of my punts from many corners of the globe in my reports you'll find that I very much want to share my experiences (and research) with other members for their benefit and this has happily attracted many grateful responses and the odd Report of Distinction. I don't do it for the latter. I do it for others to enjoy the fruits of my research and experiences (good and bad). For the second time in half an hour in the London thread I've now had to post responses to TWO members telling me (and others) to do research as they've had a great time in London. But without a single piece of useful information or evidence of where to look.
So it's great that you've got lucky in London. Now please help those of us who have found (despite research) that our results have been appalling. And I'm not the only one to bemoan the options in London.
For each and every person who reads this thread. Keep looking. It may just be that at long last we are about to receive a plethora of information about good punting options in CENTRAL London from our more knowledgeable brethren. I'm sorry if I sound p*ss*ed off, but punters telling everyone they've had a great time without posting any information are not giving anything to the forum at all.
AMPS, thousands of photoshopped girls on agency ads, ditto on adultwork, lots of false reviews, girls who turn up who look absolutely nothing like the girl you selected on the website, and more recently, the suggestion that you head all the way to one area of London in search of those cars in phone boxes which have particular numbers at the end! Firstly, there are no secrets. What I'm about to mention below has been said before, so nothing new.
I don't do agency ads / girls, swingers / soho, neither the whole cars / phone box spiel. AW / Vivastree / Backpage is a minefield and the reviews on AW are seldom accurate. A lot of the times AW reviews are done to get numbers up; because certain WG's won't see someone without a certain number of feedback (in order to avoid time waster according to most of the WG's I've spoken with). I only see independent WG's. If I get a whiff that there is a pimp involved, I walk. If you are looking to go to a place and pick out of a line-up or basically sample before you chose, then you'll probably get that in some agencies, but the quality of this is quite patchy and again I'm not the best to advise on this.
I read UKP and UKE, discuss things with other punters on both, PM them and have even met few of them over the years. I can do this because I am based in London and am open to sharing my experiences with others (I don't know where you're based and how often do you travel to London). If you are not based in London, then read the UKP reviews and make a shortlist. Once you have a shortlist and know what you are looking for, then ask (on the forum or via PM) and you'd be surprised how many people are happy to share their experiences. Hope this provides you with enough information to go and do your research.
MrSunnyHills
09-18-16, 11:35
I was hoping to get up to London on a quick trip, but didn't have a chance. There is a place in an industrial park on Kelvin Way (I don't recall the name but you can find it with a Google search). Saw Chloe. Chinese, younger than I expected (probably around 30). Got a good massage for 1/2 hour then negotiated a B2B (didn't bring enough for FS if it was on offer). She did a splendid job and in particular when I asked her to take her time, she did so. Pleasant, smiles a lot, decent looking and in good shape. Slim. Would repeat, but as I said, a quick trip.
IFTTT, if its this. Then its that, and there is so much of it, drivel, on here. Summing up the research and experiences of many credible mongers on the most reliable escort agencies in London with the best girls to be found, nowhere else in the UK, only in London In no particular order complete with links. Allure, Bijux, Hamilton Escorts. http://www.bijouxescorts.com ,http://www.agencyallure.com. And here is a tribute to the greatest city in the world, the capital of the land of Hope and Glory. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs.
Hey Jojo,
Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on the guy. It would seem on here that readers generally tend to check the vibe of the other posts in a thread and adjust their style accordingly.
So perhaps Star got the impression, rightly or wrongly, from the posts on here that it wasn't the done thing in the London thread to give away too much information about places they had found. Just like in the post below?Hi Myrch,
I know its hard work to be a sex Samaritan educating newbies. And others who find other destinations in the world like, Mumbai, Sri Lanka, Mauritus, Barbados to be better places than mongering in London.
Hey Jojo,
Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on the guy. It would seem on here that readers generally tend to check the vibe of the other posts in a thread and adjust their style accordingly.
So perhaps Star got the impression, rightly or wrongly, from the posts on here that it wasn't the done thing in the London thread to give away too much information about places they had found. Just like in the post below?Hi Myrch,
I know its hard work to be a sex Samaritan educating newbies, And others who find other destinations in the world like, Mumbai, Sri Lanka, Mauritius, Barbados to be better places than mongering in London.
IFTTT, if its this. Then its that, and there is so much of it, drivel, on here. Summing up the research and experiences of many credible mongers on the most reliable escort agencies in London with the best girls to be found, nowhere else in the UK, only in LONDON where 99% of the best girls in The UK work. . In no particular order complete with links. Allure, Bijux, Hamilton Escorts. http://www.bijouxescorts.com ,http://www.agencyallure.com. And here is a tribute to the greatest city in the world, the capital of the land of Hope and Glory. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs.
Thanks for the report. Guildford a beautiful town and only half hour on a fast train from London. Beautiful countryside and amazing girls. Civvies. And pros. The Surrey girls. Must be the fresh air and the affluence of the area. There was another agency in Guildford called Guildford Gold that I think relocated to Cambreley. Surrey under a New name, Surrey Gems.There is no need for me to point out that Guildford is over 30 miles and over an hour's drive from London. Even if you go by train it normally takes over an hour unless you manage to catch one of these 'fast' trains. These fast trains only run twice every hour, and still take 40 minutes.
So it looks as if Guildford can be added to the growing list of other towns / cities like Milton Keynes which are now being discussed in this London thread as 'London' places.
It may be my imagination but it would appear that the further you get away from London then the more willing members are to provide full details of their exploits and the happier they seem with their experiences?
As a sucker for research and with all the hype and hoohah about how its so fantastic mongering in Manchester and how Centrally located the venues there, I started reading ISG reports on Brothels, walking there where any Tom, Dick, Abdul monger can just turn up there and get laid for50/60 notes ,1/2 hour plus extras which isn't for everyone. Here is what I found. Only 2 Brothels are actually in the center of Manchester, the rest and the better ones are located 30 minutes Metro ride away from the center which makes it a much longer ride than many of the Brothels in London with almost the same price range but with better variety and diversity. Cosmopolitan and Piccadilly selecta are the only Brothels in the center of Manchester, Portland street, No links for them. The rest and better ones like Sandy's super stars, La Maison. GFE Manchester, one needs a taxi or a 30 minutes metro ride With one branch of Sandy's located near Manchester Airport. Nothing there looks like the variety, diversity and sophistication of mongering opportunities available in London for any budget and preference. Based on the above I can't see myself or any of my buddies hoping on a train any time soon for the 2 hours plus, ride to Manchester.
Firstly, there are no secrets. What I'm about to mention below has been said before, so nothing new.
I don't do agency ads / girls, swingers / soho, neither the whole cars / phone box spiel. AW / Vivastree / Backpage is a minefield and the reviews on AW are seldom accurate. A lot of the times AW reviews are done to get numbers up; because certain WG's won't see someone without a certain number of feedback (in order to avoid time waster according to most of the WG's I've spoken with). I only see independent WG's. If I get a whiff that there is a pimp involved, I walk. If you are looking to go to a place and pick out of a line-up or basically sample before you chose, then you'll probably get that in some agencies, but the quality of this is quite patchy and again I'm not the best to advise on this.
I read UKP and UKE, discuss things with other punters on both, PM them and have even met few of them over the years. I can do this because I am based in London and am open to sharing my experiences with others (I don't know where you're based and how often do you travel to London). If you are not based in London, then read the UKP reviews and make a shortlist. Once you have a shortlist and know what you are looking for, then ask (on the forum or via PM) and you'd be surprised how many people are happy to share their experiences. Hope this provides you with enough information to go and do your research.Thanks. At least a positive response with some information but please tell me this: if there are no secrets, and these details are readily available on the sites you list, why not post the results of who is good and who is not on ISG?
Thanks. At least a positive response with some information but please tell me this: if there are no secrets, and these details are readily available on the sites you list, why not post the results of who is good and who is not on ISG?I do not see the point in replication. There are already sites available where you can get this information and people on ISG are aware of these sites (if not then hopefully my previous post is a step in that direction, if they wish to take it).
Please note: I am not here to promote these sites and I do not get any sort of incentives to promote this site. Neither am I in any way associated with people who run these sites.
I do not see the point in replication. There are already sites available where you can get this information and people on ISG are aware of these sites (if not then hopefully my previous post is a step in that direction, if they wish to take it).
Please note: I am not here to promote these sites and I do not get any sort of incentives to promote this site. Neither am I in any way associated with people who run these sites.But it is not a replication on ISG. What is the reluctance? If you have a great punt, why not report on it here? I've been onto UKP today. I was a member previously but prefer ISG. There are lots of posts about White Lily Spa which I posted on last week. The fact that it has been reported on there does not make it wrong to post on here. If that were the case there would only be one thread for FKKs in Germany. Whereas there are many.
The same is true of many other countries and even the UK. UKP is full of posts about Manchester but the Manchester thread contains details of many locations mentioned on UKP. The more the merrier.
So given that you've had the great punts you've mentioned, please don't be shy and do post details of who was good and bad. It's the whole purpose of ISG.
For some really bizarre reason, the London thread is littered with people saying they've had a great time, not saying who with, not providing links, and inviting research away from ISG! Its almost as though there will be a public hanging for posting detailed information on the London thread. The constant referrals to research (not on ISG) really does raise some serious suspicions that as I and others have queried. That there really are not many very good options in London. I know Jojo will jump on this with details of phone boxes, or someone else will post something about a great punt in Guildford. But can anyone with great experience of a line up in central London please post details of where? The fact that I've posed this challenge so many times now and nobody can post particularised information speaks for itself.
As a sucker for research and with all the hype and hoohah about how its so fantastic mongering in Manchester and how Centrally located the venues there, I started reading ISG reports on Brothels, walking there where any Tom, Dick, Abdul monger can just turn up there and get laid for50/60 notes ,1/2 hour plus extras which isn't for everyone. Here is what I found. Only 2 Brothels are actually in the center of Manchester, the rest and the better ones are located 30 minutes Metro ride away from the center which makes it a much longer ride than many of the Brothels in London with almost the same price range but with better variety and diversity. Cosmopolitan and Piccadilly selecta are the only Brothels in the center of Manchester, Portland street, No links for them. The rest and better ones like Sandy's super stars, La Maison. GFE Manchester, one needs a taxi or a 30 minutes metro ride With one branch of Sandy's located near Manchester Airport. Nothing there looks like the variety, diversity and sophistication of mongering opportunities available in London for any budget and preference. Based on the above I can't see myself or any of my buddies hoping on a train any time soon for the 2 hours plus, ride to Manchester.Hi,
I have been to most of the city center brothels.
In Ancoat Road, its selft there is 3, Passion, Picadilly, Angles (previously 56) and diamonds (which is near to the Park in hotel, in the start of cheetamhill road).
Also you have Cherrys, near to Picadilly Gardens.
Hope this helps.
Hi,
I have been to most of the city center brothels.
In Ancoat Road, its selft there is 3, Passion, Picadilly, Angles (previously 56) and diamonds (which is near to the Park in hotel, in the start of cheetamhill road).
Also you have Cherrys, near to Picadilly Gardens.
Hope this helps.Many thanks for the info. Of course rents are a lot cheaper in the center of Manchester compared to central London but Prices for sex in Manchester don't seem to be that much different compared to London?
http://www.cleopatrassauna.com with line up http://www.citikey.co.uk/display/libbys-sauna-3N2B5 and there s Aqua sauna. Never been to any of them. Central London venues with line up are the venues with sites as they advertise and I posted on them many times here in the past, do your research on Gentlemen{s clubs and these are the places, guys I know who visit London prefer to spend an evening there before taking a girl out. Some clubs. Have a line up of about 30 girls. Anyone asking about cheaper options, re London brothels in the center or close, will get the same answers Whether asked here on ISG or on any of the UK mongering sites like UKP, look for cards in phone boxes, will be the replies. Challenging this and that by some with almost zero contribution to the London thread won t bring any more details or specific pointers than that. . Those brothels with a line up are not everyone's cup of tea anyway.
I've never used escort agencies in London but posted links on few based on positive feedback by credible members of other sites and what few buds've told me about their experiences using them.
one or 2 Gentleman's Clubs where you See Hostesses and Select the girl of your choice and agree a price for a take out. Most of the girls in such clubs are available for takeout once you spend some money inside the club. Best to have a quiet word with the manager and explain to him what you're looking for. Price around 500 ?
http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/mayfair/new_churchills_gentlemens_club_w1
http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/mayfair/the_gaslight_gentlemans_night_club_sw1y
http://www.no4mayfair.com/
Here's an interesting article on a Gentelman's club (Chaplin's) now closed, to give you an idea about prices. I and few buds who were on account did take out few girls from the club just before it was closed.
I bumped into Oscar the ex owner of the club about 6 years ago here at https://www.windmillinternational.com/.IAnother post with links to Venues in Central London where there s a line up of many girls.
QUOTE=PayForIt =Jojosun; The following are Hostess clubs with Possib LE Take Out of girls, after a minimum spend in the club. Ie like a Bar fine. A price for take out is negotiated with the girl, if she agrees. You should make it clear from the start that you want a Take out, not just company for few hours in the club.
Thanks for the response guys.
Particularly the long list of Hostess Clubs with Take Out girls some of which I'll give a go.
I've tended to avoid these clubs as I've been stung in the past with "buy the girl a drink" meaning champagne at crazy prices.
The notion of having to pay for someone to sit and talk to is odd to me. I'd rather go to a lap dancing bar and talk to them for free and then at least get a nude dance. That.
Said, I didn't know these clubs had more take out offers so I'll take another risk!
Jojo. Is there a similar list of decent massage parlors on the forum after the first 10 pages?
Thanks again QUOTE]Just a little reminder over 4 years ago. LOL its amazing what one can find with just a bit of research on Line Up in Central London as well.
First post on this forum for me. I've posted very detailed accounts of punting in Spain and one in Krakow. See the Costa del Sol Forum. I need some help in London please. I've read the last 10 pages of this forum but other than references to the parties at Lady Marmalade. Which sound great and which I will try and report on, I still find my trips to London every two weeks a bit frustrating. Why? Because I can't find a place like the whiskerias / puticlubs in Spain. These are bars / clubs with WGs in. Bit like a nightclub but for WGs only. I really like being able to go in, have a few beers, check out the talent and make a choice. Is there such a club anyone knows in London which doesn't cost stupid money? An hour in a Spanish club with a chica costs around 160.
It's reasonable given you might have a choice of 30/40 girls so you always find several you want.
My punting in London usually starts with warm up at Sunset Strip in Dean St W1. 15 in, lap dances 20 but stage downstairs where there is a seated area and a girls stripping on stage one after the other. Girls vary from 5-8's. Some real babes. Only twice have I managed to persuade a dancer to come to my hotel 200.
Then maybe a visit to the other lap dancing clubs.4 Years later and the search goes on. I would've given up by now.
Hi,
I have been to most of the city center brothels.
In Ancoat Road, its selft there is 3, Passion, Picadilly, Angles (previously 56) and diamonds (which is near to the Park in hotel, in the start of cheetamhill road).
Also you have Cherrys, near to Picadilly Gardens.
Hope this helps.Well said Sir. Additionally you will have been to tropical Palms (near George St) and of course there is the old favorite Cosmopolitan. Then there is Bentleys near Picc Gardens. So in response to Jojo believing there are two only in Manchester City centre, between us we've come up with 8. Over to you Jojo. Can you, or anybody who punts regularly in CENTRAL London (note all of the 8 listed in Manchester between Mike and I can be walked to within 10-15 minutes from Picc gardens which is plumb centre of Manchester), list even 3 brothels you can walk up to in central London - or wait for it.....JUST ONE????!!!!!
It will not have escaped anyone that there is no secrecy about giving (useful) information for the benefit of mongers in Manchester. So recently here on this London thread, we've had "London is not hopeless", "do your research" and "I've had lots of good punts in London" and then "I'm not replicating information on other sites". So tell us, where did you have these great punts? Give some names and locations please. Don't worry about posting them because if they are on other sites it won't harm to post them here too.
It would be great to report on here that my previous impression (that London is only AMPS / Adult Works and photo-shopped misleading agencies) is wrong, and that there are some really good mongering options, and good line ups, in a few brothels in our Capital city. I fully appreciate that LEA are more vigilant in London. I'm not asking for a GPS location here, but streets would not be difficult to provide and links to other sites with full details would be good. If they cannot be posted I will assume they just don't exist.
Jojo. As you will see from these two posts. You really should check out Manchester for mongering!! BTW before you say it: I do not think Manchester is a patch on London as a tourist destination alone (no mongering). But then I love Rome, Venice, Sorrento, Nice and Chamonix but as beautiful as they are they are hopeless for punting (escort agencies only). London is a great place to visit if you are not into a line up selection punting experience.
If the truth is that it's not possible to get a decent line up in a single establishment in central London, let's just say so and accept it. I wouldn't continue the debate at all if someone could just come up with some answers. But the seeming lack of them, and posts suggesting research, not wanting to replicate etc just make one very suspicious that in fact Londons many attractions do not include a decent centrally located brothel. And to think that it was probably once the home of mongering in the UK.
But it is not a replication on ISG. What is the reluctance? If you have a great punt, why not report on it here? I've been onto UKP today. I was a member previously but prefer ISG. There are lots of posts about White Lily Spa which I posted on last week. The fact that it has been reported on there does not make it wrong to post on here. .It would be replication for me, not for ISG. I am a member of both UKP and ISG and prefer both for different things. I do not understand why do we need to have everything on ISG. It's like saying I prefer this restaurant and therefore it should have the best version of all the food I like. Even if there is a dish that I like and it's good in another restaurant, then bring it here, so that I can enjoy it here.
Sure if UKP was a walled garden, hidden someplace on the murky web, then that would be different. Both ISG and UKP are easily accessible and a few quick searches away from Google.
Reluctance, in my book would be that I had a good or bad punt and did not mention it to anyone. I don't do that. I put it on a platform of my choosing, where people can ask me questions and even question my intentions on the report; all of which is fine with me considering that I'm on a platform meant to share so you will get bricks and compliments in equal measure.
There is no need for me to point out that Guildford is over 30 miles and over an hour's drive from London. Even if you go by train it normally takes over an hour unless you manage to catch one of these 'fast' trains. These fast trains only run twice every hour, and still take 40 minutes.
So it looks as if Guildford can be added to the growing list of other towns / cities like Milton Keynes which are now being discussed in this London thread as 'London' places.
It may be my imagination but it would appear that the further you get away from London then the more willing members are to provide full details of their exploits and the happier they seem with their experiences?Hi Myrch,
Spent a year as an exchange student in Guildford many years ago. Never did much studying though as there were too many distractions. Met my first English girlfriend there at The Young Conservatives dance many years later I started going back to Guildford as a monger so I am very familiar with the town and how to get there AS for providing full details, just come across some info on a Brothel in London. Which might be e of interest to some, not for me, hence I am more than happy to post info and location as I read it. Woolwich Arsenal Brothel. Cadogan Road, Easy enough to find. Only a few minutes walk from the DLR Home to half a dozen or so Romanian Bare backers. . Luxury Apartment. Further reading on ukp, under the same title.
It would be replication for me, not for ISG. I am a member of both UKP and ISG and prefer both for different things. I do not understand why do we need to have everything on ISG. It's like saying I prefer this restaurant and therefore it should have the best version of all the food I like. Even if there is a dish that I like and it's good in another restaurant, then bring it here, so that I can enjoy it here.
Sure if UKP was a walled garden, hidden someplace on the murky web, then that would be different. Both ISG and UKP are easily accessible and a few quick searches away from Google.
Reluctance, in my book would be that I had a good or bad punt and did not mention it to anyone. I don't do that. I put it on a platform of my choosing, where people can ask me questions and even question my intentions on the report; all of which is fine with me considering that I'm on a platform meant to share so you will get bricks and compliments in equal measure.
Sorry I really just don't get your response. I'm not saying everything has to be on ISG. I'm saying that when a genuine punter asks a question to the forum about options in a location, would it really be too much to ask to just get a straight answer if someone knows the information?
To use your restaurant analogy:
I ask on a restaurant forum: "do you know any good restaurants in central London?"
You answer "Yes. Do some research there are some really good ones at which I've enjoyed some fantastic steaks".
I ask "Great. I love a good steak. Can you tell me the name of the restaurant?"
You reply: "It's on Tripadvisor".
I say, "Yes but can you just tell me so I know which one's are good and bad?"
You say you don't want to replicate what is on Tripadvisor. It's only a few clicks away.
Instead of me having to trawl through TA thinking, but not knowing, "I wonder if this is one of the good one's he meant or not" you could have saved me the trouble, based on your experience by just answering the question. That is the purpose of this forum! To share information with one another of good or bad experiences, locations, venues, girls, and maybe even steaks!
If you go on other threads on ISG people post all the time about locations / girls etc. Go on the FKK forums...people will say "sessioned with xxxxx (name of girl), blonde, large naturals from Romania. Face 9/10, attitude, 8/10, service level 9/10. Good venue, nice food, entry fee xxeuros. xxxx (name of girl) was energetic but mechanical in the room." This is great info. It means when I meet the girl in that club I know she gives great service so I'll maybe take time with her. If the service was bad I'd recall the post and maybe decide not to bother.
Sure I can go on UKP but as you posted here is it too much to ask to ask you to share your knowledge on the forum you are posting on?
Any fear of putting up names on ISG and issues with LEA are entirely misplaced if the same info is there on UKP and elsewhere.
I therefore just do not understand the reluctance at all. Sure details might be elsewhere. But would it really harm to give them out on ISG?
I've had one PM from a London poster (who took umbrage at my hopeless tag) very graciously offering to PM his personal experiences and recommendations. I am very grateful to him. They are still independents and NOT line up locations in Central London. So I repeat and ask again for about the 10th time: does ANYONE who posts or mongers in the London thread know of a SINGLE brothel in central London where you can select from a LU? If you do, and there are, please list them on ISG for the benefit of people who wish to enjoy our mutual pastime. In central London.
Talk about trying to get blood out of stone!!!! I'm not asking for the crown jewels here guys - just some friendly help by sharing of experience from my fellow mongers.
Central London https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_London Best areas for Brothels with a Line up are in Kensington and Chelsea Locations are shown, cards in phone boxes in the same area. Edgware Road, Paddington,Victoria, Brothels with a Line Up, Cards in Phone boxes in the area. This info is also replicated if one looks for the same in UKP. Take one for yourself and report back on your experience.
As there's no harm in replicating info on ISG re a mongering activity so important for some, here it is: Twice in central London I've found walk-in brothels by calling the numbers on those porno cards in phone boxes. These are often adverts for local brothels and the two I visited had girls which weren't even advertised on AdultWork. It's really hit and miss, of course. When you call ask if they have several girls available. Then you've found a walk in brothel. It won't be the cheapest option but I do get a kick out of being offered a lineup of different girls to choose from.
The last time I went to Edgeware Road, I called the number on display in a phone box on the high street. I then was directed to a brothel and was invited inside. ; I don't think the brothels in Edgware Road are any big secret. Like I say most are advertised in phone boxes, and the one other I spotted which wasn't advertised is not exactly discreet. I think the police know better than any of us about the brothels in this area already.
They are still independents and NOT line up locations in Central London. So I repeat and ask again for about the 10th time: does ANYONE who posts or mongers in the London thread know of a SINGLE brothel in central London where you can select from a LU? If you do, and there are, please list them on ISG for the benefit of people who wish to enjoy our mutual pastime. In central London.
Well, now I get (hopefully) what you are looking for. Took a while to get there, but at least we did get there (or are we not there yet? If you read my previous post below (#5195) you will find that I only go for independents. I'm not the brothel visiting, choosing from a LU sort of punter. That isn't my preference. Did that years ago, when I did not know any better and never really enjoyed myself. Bait and switch, frequent turnover and patchy service were a few reasons why I switched over to indies. I can now see why you refer to FKK in your post and I do not seek that sort of experience in London. If I do get the itch to indulge in that sort of experience, I head over to Germany. So my FR will not cater to your requirements.
Continuing on the restaurant analogy, the conversation should have gone like.
You: There are no good restaurants in London.
Me: Yes there are, I've had excellent meals over the years in London restaurants.
You: Do you know any good restaurants in London, I love steaks.
Me: I am more of sushi guy myself, but if you enjoy steaks, there is this site called TA. Check it out.
You: Yes I know, but can you tell me which one's are good and bad.
Me: I'm not into steaks so why don't you go onto TA and ask the question, where can you find the best steaks in London and see what comes up.
You: You are from London and enjoy Sushi, why don't you tell me where all the good steak places are, clearly we are all here to find the best steak places.
Me: I'm here to find the best Sushi or Tapas place. If I want steaks, then I'll go someplace I know steak connoisseurs congregate.
You: Where's that?
Me: Go to TA and check. There might be a few steak connoisseurs on there. All the best.
Can I echo PayforIt. Some specific information would be helpful to those of us who are not recently experienced in how to find good providers in the UK.
Jojosun just below gave a sort of lead, which I tried to check out, but it led to nothing useful: the advice on the other forum was just walk up and down a particular road.
By the way, I believe that promoting another English language forum is against this Forum's rules.
I know the UK is convoluted, sso help would be a bonus.
As there's no harm in replicating info on ISG re a mongering activity so important for some, here it is: Twice in central London I've found walk-in brothels by calling the numbers on those porno cards in phone boxes. These are often adverts for local brothels and the two I visited had girls which weren't even advertised on AdultWork. It's really hit and miss, of course. When you call ask if they have several girls available. Then you've found a walk in brothel. It won't be the cheapest option but I do get a kick out of being offered a lineup of different girls to choose from.
The last time I went to Edgeware Road, I called the number on display in a phone box on the high street. I then was directed to a brothel and was invited inside. ; I don't think the brothels in Edgware Road are any big secret. Like I say most are advertised in phone boxes, and the one other I spotted which wasn't advertised is not exactly discreet. I think the police know better than any of us about the brothels in this area already.Credit for the info above goes to the poster on the English site that can't speak its name.
: ,:. ; I dont think brothels in Edgware Road are any big secret. Like I say most are advertised in phone boxes, and the one other I spotted which wasn't advertised is not exactly discreet. I think the police know better than any of us about the brothels in this area already.:Brothels are illegal but going to Brothels to monger isn't. If the info above were True and I wanted to find out so badly, then the obvious thing to do, is to ask a friendly Young Policeman for the exact locations.
Hi guys,
Is there any agency in London, that offers Japanese / Korean girls with real photos? I mean as they appear, not "she barely looks like, but probably. " Going to London tomorrow, so it would be great to find someone.
Thanks!
Can I echo PayforIt. Some specific information would be helpful to those of us who are not recently experienced in how to find good providers in the UK.
Jojosun just below gave a sort of lead, which I tried to check out, but it led to nothing useful: just walk up and down a particular road.
I know the UK is convoluted, sso help would be a bonus.I used to think that London mongers were just bloody minded, selfish and snidely in deliberately providing half clues leading to others being sent on wild goose chases.
But the sort of characters that like to post on these forums are the type that probably would not waste an opportunity to blow their own trumpets. Boasting and providing indisputable proof about how they found places that other mere mongers have failed to find despite their strenuous efforts.
So no the reason for this reticence must be that good places are so hard to come by in London and could be so easily snatched away if the police find out about them. As a result these mongers are just running scared about providing any useful information at all.
Can I echo PayforIt. Some specific information would be helpful to those of us who are not recently experienced in how to find good providers in the UK.
Jojosun just below gave a sort of lead, which I tried to check out, but it led to nothing useful: the advice on the other forum was just walk up and down a particular road.
By the way, I believe that promoting another English language forum is against this Forum's s.There was a Q and A re exact location of the said Brothel _Q; I live close by, and I walk all the street but couldn't find it.
What do I have to look for? Any different light or something?
A: The sign in the window: Girls here, good rates, no Condom required, Directions to the Pox Doctor on request.
Brothels are illegal but going to Brothels to monger isn't. If the info above were True and I wanted to find out so badly, then the obvious thing to do, is to ask a friendly Young Policeman for the exact locations.Shame it's come to this! Great advice for first time visitors to the London thread who will now read your post and think that the best way to find a brothel in London is to ask a Policeman. Well done. Now let me think of whether I will be trying that out sometime soon. ?
Well, now I get (hopefully) what you are looking for. Took a while to get there, but at least we did get there (or are we not there yet? If you read my previous post below (#5195) you will find that I only go for independents. I'm not the brothel visiting, choosing from a LU sort of punter. That isn't my preference. Did that years ago, when I did not know any better and never really enjoyed myself. Bait and switch, frequent turnover and patchy service were a few reasons why I switched over to indies. I can now see why you refer to FKK in your post and I do not seek that sort of experience in London. If I do get the itch to indulge in that sort of experience, I head over to Germany. So my FR will not cater to your requirements.
Continuing on the restaurant analogy, the conversation should have gone like.
You: There are no good restaurants in London.
Me: Yes there are, I've had excellent meals over the years in London restaurants.
You: Do you know any good restaurants in London, I love steaks.
Me: I am more of sushi guy myself, but if you enjoy steaks, there is this site called TA. Check it out.
You: Yes I know, but can you tell me which one's are good and bad.
Me: I'm not into steaks so why don't you go onto TA and ask the question, where can you find the best steaks in London and see what comes up.
You: You are from London and enjoy Sushi, why don't you tell me where all the good steak places are, clearly we are all here to find the best steak places.
Me: I'm here to find the best Sushi or Tapas place. If I want steaks, then I'll go someplace I know steak connoisseurs congregate.
You: Where's that?
Me: Go to TA and check. There might be a few steak connoisseurs on there. All the best.Firstly in terms of "now we are getting there" I've posted about the lack of select from LU brothels about 20 times so I really don't understand "finally getting there".
I don't use independents as it is too hit and miss and the agencies post lots of pics (and so do girls on other indie sites) which are just so photoshopped and not true. You are sat in a hotel hoping and praying that the one girl you've picked looks 80% like her picture, and when she doesn't what do you do? Tell her you ordered steak not sushi? I've therefore progressed from using independents to using line ups where I can see face to face what I'm considering buying.
On the restaurant analogy, which I won't bore everyone with any longer, the conversation could simply have been "ah. As you are looking for steaks I don't have a clue as I don't eat them".
The bottom line of our exchanges (and thanks for taking the time to respond) is that sadly you don't know of any decent walk up brothels which have a line up in central London. Despite my many posts, and challenges to all to name just ONE, and veiled references to Edgeware Road, (no particulars provided of venues / girls etc) we've descended to me being advised to ask a Policeman where they are.
Walk up brothels to choose from a line up do not exist in central London. I accept fully that many others may not want that option. If you don't, and you want swinger parties, or to rely on looking at a pic on a website and hoping that girl shows up, London has lots of options. If you want the same option to select that exists all over the world and in many cities in the UK, you'll be disappointed. They don't exist in London, or if they do, no members of ISG know where they are but instead advise that you ask a policeman where they are. Terrific.
Firstly in terms of "now we are getting there" I've posted about the lack of select from LU brothels about 20 times so I really don't understand "finally getting there".I joined the discussion after post #5174 where the general tone of the post was there are no good punting options in London. No mention of LU and Brothels. Haven't dug deeper into any previous posts / conversations.
I don't use independents as it is too hit and miss and the agencies post lots of pics (and so do girls on other indie sites) which are just so photoshopped and not true. You are sat in a hotel hoping and praying that the one girl you've picked looks 80% like her picture, and when she doesn't what do you do? Tell her you ordered steak not sushi? I've therefore progressed from using independents to using line ups where I can see face to face what I'm considering buying.I only use independents and find them much better than brothels / agency girls. Photoshop is common on both platforms; they'll want to entice you by whatever means necessary. With indie's you can see them when they open the door and invite you in, talk to them to establish if they know the language and ask about what services they offer. In these 2-3 minutes, if you don't think it'll be a good session, say Thanks, but no thanks and leave. Sat in a hotel. So you mean outcalls? Also how does seeing a face ensure good service. In FKK's you have a lot of of optificks, who look great, but are poor service providers. Are you just going for Optificks?
Also on UKP, you can go into a FR and ask the OP if the photos on AW are a good representation or not. This helps you get a good idea about what a WG looks like in person.
Walk up brothels to choose from a line up do not exist in central London. I accept fully that many others may not want that option. If you don't, and you want swinger parties, or to rely on looking at a pic on a website and hoping that girl shows up, London has lots of options. If you want the same option to select that exists all over the world and in many cities in the UK, you'll be disappointed. They don't exist in London, or if they do, no members of ISG know where they are but instead advise that you ask a policeman where they are. Terrific.Under UK brothel laws, any premises. For example, private flats, saunas, massage parlors may be classified as a brothel if they are used by more than one man or woman for the purpose of prostitution, whether on the same day or on different days. Soho / HoD / LMP are all toeing the line on this and therefore have the rota system where they try to appear to be independents. So there are options and if you are comfortable to work with the options then you get results. If however you have a problem with how things are set-up as opposed to other cities in the world, then yes you will find that your style of mongering is better catered to in other parts of the world. As for me, I want good service and am happy to go with the flow of things. Even if I have bad punts, I know that this isn't a 100% success rate hobby. My good vs bad punt ratio in the worst month of punting over the years in London has been 2:1.
I used to think that London mongers were just bloody minded, selfish and snidely in deliberately providing half clues leading to others being sent on wild goose chases.
But the sort of characters that like to post on these forums are the type that probably would not waste an opportunity to blow their own trumpets. Boasting and providing indisputable proof about how they found places that other mere mongers have failed to find despite their strenuous efforts.
So no the reason for this reticence must be that good places are so hard to come by in London and could be so easily snatched away if the police find out about them. As a result these mongers are just running scared about providing any useful information at all.This makes me scared stiff. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/nov/02/immigration.ukcrime. They were charged rent, and subjected to fines if they refused anal or unprotected sex or a client was not attracted to them. Some escaped after passing notes to each other. Each to their own.
Shame it's come to this! Great advice for first time visitors to the London thread who will now read your post and think that the best way to find a brothel in London is to ask a Policeman. Well done. Now let me think of whether I will be trying that out sometime soon. ?Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. ' http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/ A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.
Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. ' http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/ A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.Quotation marks are missing on this new small device or most probably I just can't find them even when looking through the key hole, but I am sure you sure you get the message.
Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. "We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. "http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/ A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.Here' s the Pub http://themonkeypuzzlepub.co.uk. The Monkey Puzzle.
30 Southwick Street, London W2 1 JQ, you. Now you know where to find them Lined up. http://www.londontown.com/LondonStreets/southwick_street_a51.html/.
I used to think that London mongers were just bloody minded, selfish and snidely in deliberately providing half clues leading to others being sent on wild goose chases.
But the sort of characters that like to post on these forums are the type that probably would not waste an opportunity to blow their own trumpets. Boasting and providing indisputable proof about how they found places that other mere mongers have failed to find despite their strenuous efforts.
So no the reason for this reticence must be that good places are so hard to come by in London and could be so easily snatched away if the police find out about them. As a result these mongers are just running scared about providing any useful information at all.
This makes me scared stiff. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/nov/02/immigration.ukcrime. "They were charged rent, and subjected to fines if they refused anal or unprotected sex or a client was not attracted to them. Some escaped after passing notes to each other. Each to their own".Hi Myrch,
Its not the Police that scare the shit out of me, But the activities that goes on in some of the Brothels with a line up such as the ones in the link above, unprotected sex, trafficked and controlled girls, pimps on the premises.
Here's what I meant when I gave the advice about asking a Policeman for directions to Local Brothels. Maybe its much quicker just to drop in and ask the question at the local Police station.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-prostitutes-sell-sex-30-7919660
News UK News Prostitution.
Watch as prostitutes sell sex for £30 at seedy hotel just yards from police station.
21:13, 7 May 2016 updated 21:13, 7 May 2016.
By Nick Dorman.
Foreign escorts provide round-the-clock service at Hartley Hotel across the street from the Met's Forest Gate nick in east London.
Prostitutes are selling sex for as little as £30 at a seedy *hotel opposite a police station.
Foreign escorts provide a round-the-clock service just 20 paces from the front door of the Met 's Forest Gate nick in east London.
Prostitution at the one star Hartley Hotel is so notorious that it is *mentioned by reviewers on the TripAdvisor site – where it is rated as among the capital's worst hotels.
Outside the *hotel a uniformed constable could be seen standing in front of the police *station. A man at reception waved our reporter through when *given the girl's room number."
And there's a lot to be said for mongering very close to a Police station " Another pointed out an advantage of it being near a police *station. He said: "The Hartley Hotel is directly opposite Forest Gate nick! If I run away from a pimp with a machete, I'm only 10 yards from the Old Bill."
All the best and good luck wherever you monger and in some places you, the really need it.
Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. ' http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/ A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.I'll say this Jojo. Nobody does research quite like you! I'm grateful I don't need to now ask a policeman. Though having read the link in your article I'd need to ask one to accompany me to that area of Edgeware Road to avoid getting into a real fight. I wanted a line up not a punch up! I've just about given up on it. As Krazydudesays: what I'm looking for just doesn't really exist in London.
I joined the discussion after post #5174 where the general tone of the post was there are no good punting options in London. No mention of LU and Brothels. Haven't dug deeper into any previous posts / conversations.
I only use independents and find them much better than brothels / agency girls. Photoshop is common on both platforms; they'll want to entice you by whatever means necessary. With indie's you can see them when they open the door and invite you in, talk to them to establish if they know the language and ask about what services they offer. In these 2-3 minutes, if you don't think it'll be a good session, say Thanks, but no thanks and leave. Sat in a hotel. So you mean outcalls? Also how does seeing a face ensure good service. In FKK's you have a lot of of optificks, who look great, but are poor service providers. Are you just going for Optificks?
Also on UKP, you can go into a FR and ask the OP if the photos on AW are a good representation or not. This helps you get a good idea about what a WG looks like in person.
Under UK brothel laws, any premises. For example, private flats, saunas, massage parlors may be classified as a brothel if they are used by more than one man or woman for the purpose of prostitution, whether on the same day or on different days. Soho / HoD / LMP are all toeing the line on this and therefore have the rota system where they try to appear to be independents. So there are options and if you are comfortable to work with the options then you get results. If however you have a problem with how things are set-up as opposed to other cities in the world, then yes you will find that your style of mongering is better catered to in other parts of the world. As for me, I want good service and am happy to go with the flow of things. Even if I have bad punts, I know that this isn't a 100% success rate hobby. My good vs bad punt ratio in the worst month of punting over the years in London has been 2:1.Think we've come to the end of the (useful) discussion on it. Couple of points on your interesting response: Yes I prefer outcalls (not if I have a car but I don't in London). Waiting in a hotel, the girl turns up, is not great or like the girl you selected, or is a lot fatter, it is pretty difficult to tell her "thanks but no thanks" not least as she has a driver outside. I have done it when the girl is just completely unacceptable, but you are in a public place, at risk that she will start shouting and alert all around you to the fact that you've hired a hooker to the hotel. So maybe getting transport around London to visit the girls is the better option. It's just a drag having to trawl around at the end of a night.
You've obviously had successes. But it's just too hit and miss for me though I take your point on being able to converse on UKP to attempt to get some corroborative evidence before you make the choice. All fine if you live in London or have time to plan a visit. For me, I might only find out on the morning of a visit I'm going. Pretty difficult to then start messaging other members to find out what I want to know. So I am pretty much limited to selection from what I see online. And my success rate on agencies / independents is really quite low.
Just on success rates. I agree with you this leisure activity is far from guaranteed. Yes I love the optificks, indeed I really enjoy the whole pastime of going to a club in Spain, or Germany, or Dubai and being able to select a companion from maybe 50+ girls. I don't just choose based on looks. You can "interview" the girls and build a rapport (or not) about what you are looking for. It would be wrong of me to suggest even this is failsafe. It's not. I've had some poor sessions still. But firstly I'd say they are rare if I've already conducted a proper discussion with the lady, and secondly, even if the chemistry isn't there despite our best efforts, having sex with someone who looks really attractive (because in part of course you only initiate discussions with the ones who hit the spot for you) is still no real chore. AND - you know that you can take a short session knowing full well that you can end it, and go back out to the club to select someone else. In that way you are seriously limiting the risk of an unsuccessful outing. The same applies in the brothels in Manchester, Leeds, Milton Keynes and even in Scotland. If you have a bad session with one girl but saw someone outside who is also sexy, you can move on to another session. Still no guarantee but it helps with the odds! None of that is possible with using independents unless you are willing to say "no thanks on her doorstep" return to your car/cab/tube and start looking, and travelling all over again. What a nightmare!! So whilst it's great if you meet an indie who ticks your boxes, so you are assured of many good sessions, you really are chancing it a bit if you select one on the day, online.
The law in London is no different to that in Manchester. It is how strictly, or not, it is enforced and I get the impression, for whatever reason, that it must be far more strictly enforced in London for the likes of LMP and HoD to be needing to shelter behind the guise of independents. In Manchester for example, the various venues (I think from recent posts we got to 8 of the better known ones) openly advertise in the local press as well as online!! I have NEVER seen a raid at one. I had a moment last year in a brothel in Manchester where the girl jumped off the bed with at towel, told me to wait, and whispered 'police'. Never has my heart raced so much. On went my clothes, quickly, but not as quickly as I lost my rock on boner (!!) which reacted to the word 'police' in the same way as if someone had taken a large mallet to it! Whilst I was thinking of my lines "I thought this was just a massage place" etc. The girl returned, quite relaxed, and then removed here towel to continue the fun. She told me to do likewise. I asked if she'd got it wrong about the police. "No" she said. "They are here but don't worry they are fine....having a beer and might see one of the girls." I didn't believe her completely and told her I needed the bathroom. Whilst sneaking to the toilet I managed to get a look in the lounge and sure enough, two officers were sat with the receptionist having a chat, one with beer in hand. Several customers were sat around and three of the girls (who they hadn't selected). Still in my clothes I asked the receptionist for another beer. One of the officers said Hi and asked if I was having a nice time. I said I was. With some recognition of the danger involved, I asked why they were here. I was told that the police are well aware of the establishments in Manchester and provided they are satisfied that there is no trafficking, no drugs on the premises, a proper liquor licence, no violence, they are happy to allow things to remain as they are. There is one parlour in Manchester where a bouncer kicked a troublesome guy down the stairs and he broke his back. Even after that, it's still open (not the best place!).
So maybe it's just the difference between local police policies but it looks like in London at least, the same line up offerings are not there unless you pick a card from a phone box and hope to get a choice when you arrive. Or head to the area in Jojo's latest post armed with your best knuckle-duster so that whilst trying to build a rapport with a SW you can be ready to engage with the Mike Tyson of Edgeware Road!!
I think it boils down to. Looking for line ups. Head to Manchester Germany or Spain but not London. Looking for indies head to UKP. That doesn't make London "hopeless" for everyone. It makes it pretty poor for me and anyone used to selecting girls from a line up. So be it. I'd have expected that in so little town in mid-Wales, or the Lakes, but certainly not in our wonderful capital city.
I'll say this Jojo. Nobody does research quite like you! I'm grateful I don't need to now ask a policeman. Though having read the link in your article I'd need to ask one to accompany me to that area of Edgeware Road to avoid getting into a real fight. I wanted a line up not a punch up! I've just about given up on it. .
Firstly in terms of "now we are getting there" I've posted about the lack of select from LU brothels about 20 times so I really don't understand "finally getting there"....Indeed you've been banging on about the same subject probably more than 20 times since late August 1012 So it would be such a waste of time and space 4 you to give up just when you're nearly there.
If You think you are having a hard time finding a Brothel with a Line Up in London?? Well let me tell you my experience. When I first started using one well known UK site back in 2008. Everyone there was talking about girls from the other site whenever they meant (adultwork.com) and when I asked, what other site? As I was a newbie, they replied "The site that can't speak its name ".
Then I posted a request for info for Sexy Polish girls in London at £70 for 1/2 hour. You'd think that should bring in a flood of info. Again no response whatsoever although prior to that I posted a lot of info there about mongering in Houston, Vegas, NYC, Poland, Japan and other overseas destinations.
My break came when I joined ISG and started reading about LMP Parties. Went there and had great times with some lovely girls. One or 2 EE Girls I met there tipped me about where to look for them in West London. At the same time I first heard about Milton Keynes as most of the LMP girls at the time were working there.
Since then I learned to use different sources to do my research and use a combo of them (horses&courses) as no one was going to hand over the best mongering tips over to me on a plate.
Most important of all is to be flexible in mongering and be prepared to do the Leg Work as well as the usual research. And believe it or not, you've never had it so good with with your request for info on this thread.
it would be such a waste of time and space 4 you to give up just when you're nearly there.
If You think you are having a hard time finding a Brothel with a Line Up in London??
My break came when I joined ISG and started reading about LMP Parties. Went there and had great times with some lovely girls. One or 2 EE Girls I met there tipped me about where to look for them in West London. At the same time I first heard about Milton Keynes as most of the LMP girls at the time were working there.
Most important of all is to be flexible in mongering and be prepared to do the Leg Work as well as the usual research. And believe it or not, you've never had it so good with with your request for info on this thread.Sorry I think you completely misunderstand me Jojo. Krazyman said we were 'getting there' not me. The only "getting there" from my perspective is that I'm succumbing to the fact that there are no brothels with line ups in London. I've asked repeatedly for anyone to post details of just one in central London. Nobody has done so from which at least I appreciate that no ISG members know of one. Maybe those on other sites do but don't like to share the information on ISG. I don't understand why not but it's their prerogative.
I am not the remotest interested in attending an LMP event and sharing ladies with a group of guys at the same time. To each there own. But not for me. So that's no good.
Last time I checked Milton Keynes was not in central London. So that's no good.
As for "you've never had it so good with your request for info on this thread" - that really did give me a giggle. I've posted 20 times that I challenge ANY member of this thread to post details of ONE brothel with a line up in Central London instead of the school headmistress comments telling me to do "research" and now "legwork". I've had not ONE single response of any use whatsoever pointing me to such an establishment. Other of course than you telling me to ask a policeman as they know where they are. Great. If that equates in your book to "never had it so good", I'm afraid our respective assessments of the usefulness of this thread are very different. At least in so far as the sharing of information is concerned, this thread deserves another title I've used to describe mongering in London: hopeless! And others have come on and shared that view.
So Yes. I am getting there. Realising that there is really little point viewing this thread as often as I have previously, or even posting (as I have previously) as it's not a two way street on here.
In the words of the song "Let me take you by the hand and take you to the streets of London". Well. Yes - you did mention doing a LOT of legwork to discover good mongering in London. And that would be true as finding it on ISG is a thankless task. I've leave you merry Londoners to your LMPs, and pouring over websites as you appear very content doing just that rather than having ladies to select from in a good venue.
Sorry I think you completely misunderstand me Jojo. Krazyman said we were 'getting there' not me. The only "getting there" from my perspective is that I'm succumbing to the fact that there are no brothels with line ups in London. I've asked repeatedly for anyone to post details of just one in central London. Nobody has done so from which at least I appreciate that no ISG members know of one. Maybe those on other sites do but don't like to share the information on ISG. I don't understand why not but it's their prerogative.
I am not the remotest interested in attending an LMP event and sharing ladies with a group of guys at the same time. To each there own. But not for me. So that's no good..Hi PFI,
I see you're back to the same subject you first started in late August 2012.
(1) Where is Central London on your map??
Here are the links showing Central London https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_London.
The London Plan defines the "Central Activities Zone" policy area, which comprises the City of London, most of Westminster and the inner parts of Camden, Islington, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Southwark, Lambeth and Kensington and Chelsea.
And on Trip Advisor https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g186338-i17-k3072575-Where_is_Central_in_London-London_England.html.
" central London is roughly bounded by the Circle line of the Underground; see the link below.
Tfl. Gov. Uk / assets /.standard-tube-map. Pdf.
"I find Bloomsbury quite central, with excellent bus connections, which I prefer to the Underground although others' views will vary. Plenty of visitors like to book hotels near Victoria station, and there are a great many near Paddington, clustered on and around Sussex Gardens.
But I also like bits of Kensington, the area around Gloucester Road and even drifting towards Earl's Court, ".
Edgware road, Paddington, Kensington and Chelsea where Brothels with a Line Up are to be found are well within Central London.
(2) How to find them? Cards in Phone Boxes in those areas (Same info posted on other UK Sites) ,Or if someone is willing to pass on Info of the locations or Phone numbers as Brothels in these areas don't advertise openly. As to why no one here or on the UK sites is willing to give exact locations? Maybe no one wants to get involved in a set up less tolerated by the police than other places just in case of a Police Raid and questions asked during arrests. There are 3 or 4 threads on Brothels on the other site and there's even one on 24 hours brothels in London. .
I know of about 4 or 5 Brothels in Kensington and Chelsea with a Line up, But I won't pass on any info nor recommend such places to Visitors to London.
You want to find out about them, then you need to do what everyone did before, ie Cards in Phone boxes is the way ti find them.
(3) Venues that advertise openly online and with a Line Up, posted on them before in reply to your question.
http://www.cleopatrassauna.com/ Located here 140 Willesden High Road NW10 2 PJ 0208 8302008.
Aqua Sauna 42 Hornsey Rd, London N7 7 BP.
Libby's Sauna in Stratford. Its such an open secret http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/265607/Brothels-thrive-beside-Olympic-stadium.
The 3 venues above with a Line Up are only a matter of about 15 minutes max on the Underground.
Yes you've hit the nail on its head " So Yes. I am getting there. Realising that there is really little point viewing this thread as often as I have previously, or even posting (as I have previously) as it's not a two way street on here[.
With just one post on your massage experience at White Lilly, the one and only report in 4 years and one month, this would hardly make this thread a 2 way street.
Cheers.
PFI and others, including myself, would really like line ups so we can see what the woman really looks like and choose someone who is okay. Photo shopped photos online are not good enough and visits to see sole sex workers too risky in terms of potentially wasted time.
I think maybe we are completely spoilt by experiences of working girl friendly countries like Germany, Thailand, Spain and so on and find anything less than what we can get there unacceptable.
Maybe a reality check is in order. The UK is a working girl unfriendly kingdom and that is not going to change in our lifetimes, sadly.
Wishing for line ups, and therefore brothels, is wishing for something which is expressly against the law.
Yes, there are a few massage parlors in Greater London which secretly offer full sex on top of the massage, but they are completely breaking the law. They survive because they operate on the outskirts of London where local councils and police enforcement of the law is patchy. These are dodgy, dingy places which could be closed down immediately at any time and the owners thrown into jail for up to two years or more should the authorities wish to do so.
There are no such places in Central London, at least not operating openly and on a permanent basis. One such place Steam and Sun 'Health club' was closed down 3 years ago and the owner put in jail for 2 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6_d1BWJBg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2375209/Businessman-ran-1million-year-brothel-lawyer-sister-receptionist.html
The paradox is that we need to find out if there are any places like Steam and Sun, where we can choose between a dozen or more girls, however discussing them publicly could lead to them being closed down.
As there's no harm in replicating info on ISG re a mongering activity so important for some, here it is in the words of a poster on another UK site where there are no less than 3 threads or more on Brothels on Central London .
"Twice in central London I've found walk-in brothels by calling the numbers on those porno cards in phone boxes. These are often adverts for local brothels and the two I visited had girls which weren't even advertised on AdultWork. It's really hit and miss, of course. When you call ask if they have several girls available. Then you've found a walk in brothel. It won't be the cheapest option but I do get a kick out of being offered a lineup of different girls to choose from.
The last time I went to Edgeware Road, I called the number on display in a phone box on the high street. I then was directed to a brothel and was invited inside. ; I don't think the brothels in Edgware Road are any big secret. Like I say most are advertised in phone boxes, and the one other I spotted which wasn't advertised is not exactly discreet. I think the police know better than any of us about the brothels in this area already ".And the last time I checked it, Edgware Road is in Central London where Brothels are thriving as its now more of Little Dubai in central London and the Police got other more important things on their Radar to look for. Also for the same Economic and Tourism reasons police let the Chinese venues and Brothels carry on even turning a blind eye to open touting in the West End.
Its the Economy mongers.
That said, of course not everyone is into Brothels with a Line as its more risky and a venture into the less known and would also be a bland experience for me and many other mongers. Is this very difficult for some to appreciate?
One size doesn't all even in mongering.
Sorry I think you completely misunderstand me Jojo. Krazyman said we were 'getting there' not me. The only "getting there" from my perspective is that I'm succumbing to the fact that there are no brothels with line ups in London. I've asked repeatedly for anyone to post details of just one in central London. Nobody has done so from which at least I appreciate that no ISG members know of one. Maybe those on other sites do but don't like to share the information on ISG. I don't understand why not but it's their prerogative.
As for "you've never had it so good with your request for info on this thread" - that really did give me a giggle. I've posted 20 times that I challenge ANY member of this thread to post details of ONE brothel with a line up in Central London instead of the school headmistress comments telling me to do "research" and now "legwork"..In all my research I never read or heard of this until few days ago and it can't be more Central London than areas covered. Now Bangkok comes to London. And talking about BKK, the first time I landed there pre internet it was a TUK TUK driver who took me on a tour of the Brothels.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/revealed-west-end-pedicab-drivers-are-paid-tips-from-prostitutes-a3352091.html
"London rickshaw drivers' links to the sex trade were exposed today, as hundreds of businesses called for an urgent crackdown on their "wild west" actions.
A new investigation has revealed that drivers of pedicabs. Also known as rickshaws. Are being paid tips by prostitutes for taking passengers to brothels for sex. "
Last time I checked Milton Keynes was not in central London. So that's no good..In case you didn't do enough research on Mongering in Milton Keynes, nearly all the best girls who work there also work in Central London Brothels. In fact the one site for the London locations also shows the photos and schedules of girls working in MK.
Hope this saves some people the 30 minutes fast train journey to MK.
In case you didn't do enough research on Mongering in Milton Keynes, nearly all the best girls who work there also work in Central London Brothels. In fact the one site for the London locations also shows the photos and schedules of girls working in MK.
Hope this saves some people the 30 minutes fast train journey to MK.Thanks for the very lengthy responses, some with a touch of sarcasm but that's fine as I've used it too. I don't care if MK is 30 minutes fast train or not. It's not in London. This is the LONDON thread. Maybe you should start a Milton Keynes thread?
I'm not really sure if the rickshaws info was meant to suggest that in place of your previous advice that I ask a policeman where brothels are I should now get a pedicab and ask him or her?
Finally thanks for the very lengthy explanation of the definition of central London. I note you have used the tube map and defined central as anywhere within the Circle Line. I'm afraid that's not my assessment of central London but as you say, one size doesn't fit all. Your size (on what is central London) is a lot bigger than mine!
Myrrh got it right in his post. Those of us who like choosing from a LU are spoilt by options in other countries, and in other cities in the UK. Manchester and Milton Keynes to name two. LEA enforcement policies in London just clearly have killed the old fashioned bordello in the very heart of the city. Fair enough. I could of course resort to ringing multiple phone box cards to ask if they have more than one girl. But they will say no to ensure they are legally compliant (I could be a policeman calling!) so it would mean turning up to many such places and refusing to continue if there is no LU.
The snipe about two way street is interesting and I note you've been assessing the history of my posts.....which is fine. You will see the very significant amount of detail I've gone into in the Madrid / Costa del Sol / FKK Artemis / Oase / Sharks / Sakura /World/ Paradise / Mainhattan / Palace /Dresden/Prague/ Dubai / Bangkok threads for the benefit of other members. Identifying locations / directions / facilities and commenting on which girls do and don't give good service. So I give plenty when I can see I might receive some reciprocation. Some of those reports have been designated as Reports of Distinction in some of those threads. The constant references on here to "do your research / legwork" and your final "ask a policeman" speak volumes. You have posted details of some LUs in outer areas of London. Do you ever post information about which girls are good /gave good service/ and those who didn't? As Myrrh says. These appear not to exist in what most people consider to be central London.
I appreciate your efforts but I just have to face reality as Myrrh says. If I want to select a girl from a line up face to face having seen who is on offer, London is not the place. He has accepted it, I can accept it, and you should too. There is no other thread on the whole of ISG I've come across where members are SO defensive about a location. Get over it. London is good for agencies / adult work / LMP and AMPS. It's hopeless for selection from a LU. No problem. It's a shame that a capital city doesn't have this on offer but so be it. And just in case you are wondering.......I'm a Londoner!
I appreciate your efforts but I just have to face reality as Myrrh says. If I want to select a girl from a line up face to face having seen who is on offer, London is not the place. He has accepted it, I can accept it, and you should too. There is no other thread on the whole of ISG I've come across where members are SO defensive about a location. Get over it. London is good for agencies / adult work / LMP and AMPS. It's hopeless for selection from a LU. No problem. It's a shame that a capital city doesn't have this on offer but so be it. And just in case you are wondering.......I'm a Londoner!Hi PFI,
Thank you for the detailed and prompt response.
Of course London isn't the place if you want a Mega Brothel with a line up to choose from for s the same rates as in Germany or Spain. If you want that kind of mongering then its Spain or Germany if you don't mind the Lack of diversity which is available in London. Different tastes, different budgets, different preferences, it happens. That's life.
Now you and Myrrh are speaking with the same voice, LOL merged? Do you monger in the same venues in Germany?
As for you being a Londoner?? Not that it makes any difference but in some of your posts.
You said "I am not from London or Manchester, I visit London almost every 2 weeks ".
And here [quote=PayForIt;1939731 You've obviously had successes. But it's just too hit and miss for me though I take your point on being able to converse on UKP to attempt to get some corroborative evidence before you make the choice.
All fine if you live in London or have time to plan a visit. For me, I might only find out on the morning of a visit I'm going. Pretty difficult to then start messaging other members to find out what I want to know[/quote]Londoner or Visitor to London stick to what's available in London and enjoy it whilst it lasts.
Cheers and happy mongering wherever you are.
I've just spent half hour reading the thread in the hope of finding some information. Why is there no information about places which are operating within the law? Or about providers who are on aw or vivastreet etc. Not even an offer to share info via PM to trusted ISG members. Not even any detail about the Leicester Square property mentioned.
Doing the legwork from scratch is too time consuming. Several calls to a number shown in a phone box or on aw, before getting a reply, eventually getting a street name, making a tube trip, then having to call again for the number, probably not getting an answer and a return tube trip with no result. An hour or more down the drain. Even if one gets to see the girl it turns out that the fit spinner expected turns out to be a fat, if very nice, person. Just my experience: limited for obvious reasons.And the reason I haven't done any reports on London
Don't know about never had it so good. Gone are most of the walk ups in Soho and Shepherds Market, where one could check out half a dozen girls in half an hour.
Surely there is some information which can be shared?
In the meantime I'll just read "Secret History of Georgian London: How the Wages of Sin Shaped the Capital". The past is another country. :)
I've just spent half hour reading the thread in the hope of finding some information. Why is there no information about places which are operating within the law? Or about providers who are on aw or vivastreet etc. Not even an offer to share info via PM to trusted ISG members. Not even any detail about the Leicester Square property mentioned.
Doing the legwork from scratch is too time consuming. Several calls to a number shown in a phone box or on aw, before getting a reply, eventually getting a street name, making a tube trip, then having to call again for the number, probably not getting an answer and a return tube trip with no result. An hour or more down the drain. Even if one gets to see the girl it turns out that the fit spinner expected turns out to be a fat, if very nice, person. Just my experience: limited for obvious reasons.And the reason I haven't done any reports on London..
As I rarely monger in London I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to take up space here .
yMaybe and I am guessing here as to why? They read what you said and took it a face value, thought you were saying good bye to Mongering in London.
Maybe and I am guessing here as to why? They read what you said and took it a face value, thought you were saying good bye to Mongering in London.Yet again Jojo you want to have a dig at ANOTHER ISG member who seeks to criticise the lack of help on the London thread. You've rounded on Myrrh before, sniped at me, and did not have a single word to rebut Optimists very reasonable and sensibly worded post. As I've said before: some members of the London forum just cannot accept ANY criticism of London or its mongering options. Your response to Optimist is another perfect example of that lack of ability to take criticism. No help for Optimist, none for Myrrh, and telling me to ask a policeman where to monger. London hang your head in shame!😰💤✈️👎
Maybe and I am guessing here as to why? They read what you said and took it a face value, thought you were saying good bye to Mongering in London.
That was a cheap snide unhelpful comment.
I note you use "they". Who are these "they"?. You are saying that I have such influence that these "they" stopped posting information because I bowed gracefully out of a interminable discussion. The use of a vague "they" is a well known technique for trying to intimidate. I am not intimidated.
My comment some time ago about not taking up space was an attempt to bow out of a discussion where it was obvious you and I would not agree. One of us had to stop wasting space and I decided it would be me.
So now you object to me asking for help and guidance. Ungenerous of you to say the least.
If you have nothing informative or helpful to say why do you respond so rudely?
I always try to have a constructive relationship with fellow members: that doesn't seem to be possible in this thread.
Jojosun. As you were rude to me based on your misunderstanding of use of English, I need to tell you that "here" is an adverb which can be used to refer to a specific place and / or time. My use was referring to my contribution in this thread at the time concerned. As I said below, I was trying to bow out of a pointless argument with you as one of us had to.
. Gone are most of the walk ups in Soho and Shepherds Market, where one could check out half a dozen girls in half an hour...Who said this? Soho walk-ups are still up and running and you can still "check out half a dozen girls in half an hour.
I failed to see the interest for essentially a bunch of guys who are essentially mongering elsewhere, Germany it seems, to come on these thread and fill GBs of cyberspace with pages to say how bad it is in London.
London mongering scene is what it is, and there are subjective different views about it, so just leave us alone here, enjoy Germany, Thailand, Timbuktu if you can go there!
I assume that my answer will again trigger Myrrh and Pfp to fill a few extra pages, but, don't bother, I don't read them anymore.
I failed to see the interest for essentially a bunch of guys who are essentially mongering elsewhere, Germany it seems, to come on these thread and fill GBs of cyberspace with pages to say how bad it is in London.
London mongering scene is what it is, and there are subjective different views about it, so just leave us alone here, enjoy Germany, Thailand, Timbuktu if you can go there!
I assume that my answer will again trigger Myrrh and Pfp to fill a few extra pages, but, don't bother, I don't read them anymore.
I wondered how long it would take for the London Defence Brigade to arrive!🐴🦄🐴
First, you DO read the posts or otherwise you couldn't be commenting upon them here.
Secondly, the forum is for information (sadly lacking on the London thread) and opinions. I'm as entitled to express mine, as is Myrrh, and Optimist, as you and you pal Jojo are to be 100% defensive about London. So the rather childish "so just leave us alone here" is, I hope, the expression of a desire rather than a hint of a command. If the latter you'll be sent off with a flea in your ear for telling others what to post, or where. This sort of comment reminds me of the crass stupidity of those who denounced the vast majority of people in the UK who voted Brexit as stupid. It doesn't matter whether other members and I believe London has poor mongering options and other countries are better, and it doesn't matter that you disagree (your perfectly validly expressed opinion). What matters is that we are all free to express those opinions. Don't try to stifle that (either with pleas to "leave us alone") or worse, commands.
Finally, as for taking up a lot of bandwith (GBs. Are you serious?!!)😇 It would be terrific if instead of this debate about London being hopeless (or not) you and your pal Jojo and anyone else for that matter actually posted some useful information which assisted others to know where you attended, who with, when, what she was like to look at, what service level was provided etc. I. e all of the information you will find on nearly every other thread on ISG apart from London. I'm beginning to actually wonder what the London thread is for. Jackson. If you are reading this, please consider the past 100 posts on this thread and ask whether it is a valid thread as nobody who posts on it is prepared to give a decent piece of information. Apologies. There was of course the suggestion to ask a policeman 👮where to monger in London. Very helpful but completely renders the London thread useless.
For as long as this thread ceases to exist, and / or contain NIL positive information to assist others, I shall continue to post as a notice to possible mongers considering London as a destination. That it is to be avoided for mongering. My view. I'm 100% entitled to express it. Please prove me wrong. Go on Dreams. Please post something of use to others who visit this thread. Honestly. You'd think we were back in school!
Who said this? Soho walk-ups are still up and running and you can still "check out half a dozen girls in half an hour.
I failed to see the interest for essentially a bunch of guys who are essentially mongering elsewhere, Germany it seems, to come on these thread and fill GBs of cyberspace with pages to say how bad it is in London.
London mongering scene is what it is, and there are subjective different views about it, so just leave us alone here, enjoy Germany, Thailand, Timbuktu if you can go there!
I assume that my answer will again trigger Myrrh and Pfp to fill a few extra pages, but, don't bother, I don't read them anymore. Ah, this is something I do know the answer to :).
The number of walk ups in Soho has declined dramatically, nowadays I estimate well under 20% of the number there used to be(I can go round and remember each no longer existent walkup).The redevelopment of Greens Court and Walkers Court is almost the final nail in the coffin.
Even Berwick St. Market offends those guiding the gentrification of the area :(
You say you fail to see the interest in London from guys like me. Yes, I do monger mainly in Germany, but I wanted some help in being able to retry London. I hope that explains it clearly. All I wanted was some practical advice and guidance.
I don't knock London: as you say "it is what it is", but as a UK citizen, born and bred in London (now living outside London) it doesn't seem so inappropriate to ask for help.
So, does anyone have any practical help to offer, apart from look in phone booths and look on AW , Vivastreet etc?. I explained earlier why these options were not good for me.
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