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AmericanPi
08-29-20, 16:37
What pressure do you feel in an FKK club? The only pressure I feel is my boy up against the towel around my waist.FKKs are amazing, but I find them to be high-pressure sales environments. Every time you walk past a girl she's trying to make eye contact, locking her lips, grabbing your arm. That's cool for like the first 15 minutes. But sometimes (like after a session) it gets old fast. I'm aware of the perspective "that's what it feels like to be a hot girl in a bar", but it's a more aggressive form of that where you're literally feeling like you're swatting arms off of you and constantly saying "not now, maybe later".
Steve 9696
08-29-20, 18:58
FKKs are amazing, but I find them to be high-pressure sales environments. Every time you walk past a girl she's trying to make eye contact, locking her lips, grabbing your arm. That's cool for like the first 15 minutes. But sometimes (like after a session) it gets old fast. I'm aware of the perspective "that's what it feels like to be a hot girl in a bar", but it's a more aggressive form of that where you're literally feeling like you're swatting arms off of you and constantly saying "not now, maybe later".Yeah I find the being accosted gets old also. The alternative is Globe in Switzerland which is also an FKK and currently OPEN. At Globe I feel like I have to chase the ladies. It's definitely different from German FKK. Or try Aphrodisia in Zurich also. It's a Contakt Bar. The girls are not allowed to approach. That plus a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio you can really take your time and make your choice. Of course at $500/ HR it's not for everyone.
AmericanPi
08-30-20, 19:54
Yeah I find the being accosted gets old also. The alternative is Globe in Switzerland which is also an FKK and currently OPEN. At Globe I feel like I have to chase the ladies. It's definitely different from German FKK. Or try Aphrodisia in Zurich also. It's a Contakt Bar. The girls are not allowed to approach. That plus a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio you can really take your time and make your choice. Of course at $500/ HR it's not for everyone.I can afford $500 an hour, but it's not like I don't have a sense of value. I don't mind paying more if I'm getting more. My best sessions were in London where I was paying about 250 dollars per hour for Divas.
What's your take on Zurich clubs versus German FKK? Is it worth five times the price? What do you get for the extra money? Are the girls better, fresher, something-er? Or is it just that that's what it costs there And if that's where you are, that's what you pay?
Steve 9696
08-31-20, 02:00
I can afford $500 an hour, but it's not like I don't have a sense of value. I don't mind paying more if I'm getting more. My best sessions were in London where I was paying about 250 dollars per hour for Divas.
What's your take on Zurich clubs versus German FKK? Is it worth five times the price? What do you get for the extra money? Are the girls better, fresher, something-er? Or is it just that that's what it costs there And if that's where you are, that's what you pay?I am sure there are other venues but I know Globe and Aphrodisia so I will speak to them. Personally I like German FKK a lot. Paying 50 to fuck hottie after hottie does not suck. So why Globe?
With German FKK it's a bit hit or miss. You could have a girl who's mediocre in the room. Maybe doesn't kiss or wants more for BBBJ. Or just attitude in general. I've had mostly good experiences but I know the game and am pretty good at it.
With Globe you pay more than double $130 a half HR or something. But GUARANTEED good looks and service. DFK and BBBJ are standard. If a girl doesn't perform in the room or she gains weight she is fired. That's it. No games. Guaranteed excellent experience.
With Aphrodisia you pay double Globe - $280/ half. Do you get a 2 X better experience absolutely not. But U get a once in a life time experience. Imagine a luxury bar where all the drinks are free. Including alcoholic. No cover. (What? Surely U jest! Nope!) Just walk in. There are 30 hot girls in there. They all want you. There are 3-5 other guys. Drink. Chat. Ogle. Pick one and go. Is the in room experience better than Globe. No. Is the experience of being the most desirable guy in a room of gorgeous girls one for the books? Absolutely!
Sebastiane
08-31-20, 14:41
I agree with Steve! Globe and Aphrodisia are exactly like he has described them! Though even FKKs in Germany are much better than anything in London so far!
The downside is I regularly drop 1000 CHF (about 750 GBP) every time I go to Globe and / or Aphrodisia so its not cheap but so worth it once a month or so!
Sebastiane
08-31-20, 14:45
Being stuck in the UK at the moment due to Covid, I am thinking of exploring the London strip club scene. What's it like? What are the best clubs with the prettiest girls? Are any clubs offering more than just watching? How about the famous Stringfellows? What's that like.
How do the girls in London's strip clubs compare to the girls in FKKs or Globe or Aphrodisia? Are they also mostly from Eastern Europe?
How much would you budget for a good time at a strip club?
Sebastiane
08-31-20, 14:48
I know Diva already and use them almost exclusively for FS, but strip clubs are a scene I'm currently unfamiliar with.
ThePenetrator
08-31-20, 17:20
I am sure there are other venues but I know Globe and Aphrodisia so I will speak to them. Personally I like German FKK a lot. Paying 50 to fuck hottie after hottie does not suck. So why Globe?
With German FKK it's a bit hit or miss. You could have a girl who's mediocre in the room. Maybe doesn't kiss or wants more for BBBJ. Or just attitude in general. I've had mostly good experiences but I know the game and am pretty good at it.
With Globe you pay more than double $130 a half HR or something. But GUARANTEED good looks and service. DFK and BBBJ are standard. If a girl doesn't perform in the room or she gains weight she is fired. That's it. No games. Guaranteed excellent experience.
With Aphrodisia you pay double Globe - $280/ half. Do you get a 2 X better experience absolutely not. But U get a once in a life time experience. Imagine a luxury bar where all the drinks are free. Including alcoholic. No cover. (What? Surely U jest! Nope!) Just walk in. There are 30 hot girls in there. They all want you. There are 3-5 other guys. Drink. Chat. Ogle. Pick one and go. Is the in room experience better than Globe. No. Is the experience of being the most desirable guy in a room of gorgeous girls one for the books? Absolutely!Hey Steve which FKK would you recommend / used before, that is your favourite?
Steve 9696
08-31-20, 20:51
I agree with Steve! Globe and Aphrodisia are exactly like he has described them! Though even FKKs in Germany are much better than anything in London so far!
The downside is I regularly drop 1000 CHF (about 750 GBP) every time I go to Globe and / or Aphrodisia so its not cheap but so worth it once a month or so!Dude are you not fucking Diva 150 girls? There are so many that are better than FKK girls. Go have a duo with Melty and Pantera or Noleta and Tiramisu. Bring a bottle of Rose. Totally worth every pound. (Or see one on one.).
Steve 9696
08-31-20, 20:57
Hey Steve which FKK would you recommend / used before, that is your favourite?If you talking German FKK then my favorite is Sharks in Frankfurt. It's a huge lux venue with tons of girls and all the FKK offers in general — sauna, food, massage, lounge areas etc. The other good one in Frankfurt is Oase. Some guys like it better. Girls on par — so mostly a club style thing. Oase is Roman Emperor themed. Much more compact and a bit of a Warren inside compared to Sharks big open space with 50 ft ceilings.
Sebastiane
08-31-20, 21:54
I already said I do use DIVA regularly! You're right its good. Still prefer FKKs though. I had a 3 some with Megan and Genevieve last time I was in Globe! LOL.
Steve 9696
08-31-20, 22:03
Being stuck in the UK at the moment due to Covid, I am thinking of exploring the London strip club scene. What's it like? What are the best clubs with the prettiest girls? Are any clubs offering more than just watching? How about the famous Stringfellows? What's that like.
How do the girls in London's strip clubs compare to the girls in FKKs or Globe or Aphrodisia? Are they also mostly from Eastern Europe?
How much would you budget for a good time at a strip club?My info is probably 5+ years old but London strip was a huge disappointment and ripoff. And this from a guy used to the bad US scene. London was even worse. I concluded (incorrectly) that London sucks for sex. Then one night I had an epiphany that London might have escorts and the rest is history. But judging London on strip 5 years ago it was the bottom of the barrel for getting any value for your pound.
The best avdise is will avoid them. Unless you just want to experience, flash some money!
There have been new rules in places from past few years, which means "you can touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly!"
Apart from that, I don't think any strip clubs are open due to the COVID situation.
In UK, the best strip club experience has been in Manchester.
Hope this helps.
Being stuck in the UK at the moment due to Covid, I am thinking of exploring the London strip club scene. What's it like? What are the best clubs with the prettiest girls? Are any clubs offering more than just watching? How about the famous Stringfellows? What's that like.
How do the girls in London's strip clubs compare to the girls in FKKs or Globe or Aphrodisia? Are they also mostly from Eastern Europe?
How much would you budget for a good time at a strip club?
NRandom940
09-01-20, 01:46
My info is probably 5+ years old but London strip was a huge disappointment and ripoff. And this from a guy used to the bad US scene. London was even worse. I concluded (incorrectly) that London sucks for sex. Then one night I had an epiphany that London might have escorts and the rest is history. But judging London on strip 5 years ago it was the bottom of the barrel for getting any value for your pound.Where have you found good escorts in London? Just online?
AmericanPi
09-01-20, 05:19
Hey Steve which FKK would you recommend / used before, that is your favourite?I know this was addressed to Steve but I have a bit of wisdom so Sharks is great. Hot girls. Nicer bar area. Generally more high-end. But I don't like that it's largely out in the open. I like to get away now and again, disappear after a session for a while.
Oase is also nice but not as nice. But I like that there are areas to tuck away. Some nice lawn chairs at the back of the lawn. The room up top where only guys allowed so you can just nap.
Manahattan is smaller, but closer to the center. I wouldn't go back but that's just me.
Food at all of them is acceptable. Think cafeteria food. Cheap salty tasty grub. Sausages, fries, pasta.
It's really taste. I prefer the London escort scene personally. I like having a nice dinner solo, having a girl over, finishing, sending her off, and watching a show before bed. In FKKs I feel like I'm trying to go for my next nut and it's never as good as the first. And the Time pressure makes it less of an enjoyable experience. But that's just me.
Dude are you not fucking Diva 150 girls? There are so many that are better than FKK girls. Go have a duo with Melty and Pantera or Noleta and Tiramisu. Bring a bottle of Rose. Totally worth every pound. (Or see one on one.).Melty is gone now. Had a nice recent session with Linden though. Friendly, easy to talk to girl who aims to please. Slightly older than her pics though.
Steve 9696
09-01-20, 20:00
Melty is gone now. Had a nice recent session with Linden though. Friendly, easy to talk to girl who aims to please. Slightly older than her pics though.Melty may not be gone for good. If you go home without a firm return date they take you down. When she returns she will pop back up with reviews and all intact.
Been with Linden. Nice but in my bottom tier of Diva girls.
ThePenetrator
09-02-20, 22:13
I know this was addressed to Steve but I have a bit of wisdom so Sharks is great. Hot girls. Nicer bar area. Generally more high-end. But I don't like that it's largely out in the open. I like to get away now and again, disappear after a session for a while.
Oase is also nice but not as nice. But I like that there are areas to tuck away. Some nice lawn chairs at the back of the lawn. The room up top where only guys allowed so you can just nap.
Manahattan is smaller, but closer to the center. I wouldn't go back but that's just me.
Food at all of them is acceptable. Think cafeteria food. Cheap salty tasty grub. Sausages, fries, pasta.
It's really taste. I prefer the London escort scene personally. I like having a nice dinner solo, having a girl over, finishing, sending her off, and watching a show before bed. In FKKs I feel like I'm trying to go for my next nut and it's never as good as the first. And the Time pressure makes it less of an enjoyable experience. But that's just me.Anyone can chime in. My first and only experience in an FKK was palace, and I loved it. Its easy to get to and clean with good food.
It seems Frankfurt is the preferred city for FKK shopping, or is it that you can get regular flights from the USA there?
I was going to go Cologne to visit Samya later in the year but I don't think it will open back up till 2021. I am dreading it because it means hunting for street girls in the cold, or trying to arrange escorts to come back to my hotel. I don't really have much interest for sightseeing in Germany with covid and Ryan air (don't ever use that airline) will charge if I want to push back the flight.
Steve 9696
09-03-20, 01:44
Anyone can chime in. My first and only experience in an FKK was palace, and I loved it. Its easy to get to and clean with good food.
It seems Frankfurt is the preferred city for FKK shopping, or is it that you can get regular flights from the USA there?
I was going to go Cologne to visit Samya later in the year but I don't think it will open back up till 2021. I am dreading it because it means hunting for street girls in the cold, or trying to arrange escorts to come back to my hotel. I don't really have much interest for sightseeing in Germany with covid and Ryan air (don't ever use that airline) will charge if I want to push back the flight.Palace is OK but if go to Sharks or Oase you won't go Back to Palace. Yes Frankfurt is widely considered best but Cologne and theüsseldorf have some fine offerings I am told.
Right now I'the suggest Globe in Zurich. It's open and hopping. I've heard Austria — like GoldenTime Vienna is open also. Have heard good things about it. And frankly the options are few besides these.
Hello.
A mate of mine is panicking because he's seen his first escort in the UK and is now being threatened (isn't that just the way); he agreed to meet up with the girl but got a call from work booking him on so he tried to cancel. She apparently got upset and demanded that he come at a different time than agreed (an hour or so early). He got there paid the agreed amount got a covered blow job and left. Since then she's been saying he messed her about and is demanding that he pay for the time she lost and has implied violence through other parties. I'm a bit iffy on my legalities since I'm not based in the UK and when I am I only see trusted folk but seeing an escort is legal correct? And her being threatening is not? I've advised him to call the non emergency police number but he's afraid he's going to get in trouble a google search appears to back me up but he'd like some confirmation from experienced heads. Could anyone here help out?
EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?It is quite simple really: Your mate must decide how real the threat is. If he considers the threat real, then he should follow this guidance:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/problems/tackling-nuisance-calls-and-messages/abusive-and-threatening-calls
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There have been new rules in places from past few years, which means "you can touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly!"
Hope this helps.I am not sure that is correct. If touching is going on, the premises are breaking the terms of their licence (at least as far as Westminster Council is concerned) which will have been granted by the local Council.
What's more, if you post details of such activities in relation to a specific club you are just helping the enforcement officers to do their job.
The demise of the Windmill Club is an example of this.
Steve 9696
09-05-20, 15:11
I am not sure that is correct. If touching is going on, the premises are breaking the terms of their licence (at least as far as Westminster Council is concerned) which will have been granted by the local Council.
What's more, if you post details of such activities in relation to a specific club you are just helping the enforcement officers to do their job.
The demise of the Windmill Club is an example of this.Let's just say it out loud. Strip Clubs in UK suck! Why would you pay a few hundred pounds to look at pretty girls when you can fuck one in her bed for £150? Get a well reviewed agency girl go to her place and you will NEVER go to a UK strip club again.
In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.
In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.Well according to Mastercard London usually has the most overseas visitors of any city in the world (19,233,0000 in 2018) only Bangkok has more. So with all overseas visits at a stand-still due to 14 day quarantine requirement for almost all international arrivals it's not surprising that the west-end in particular is quiet.
But as far as escorts are concerned a quick search today on Adultwork showed 574 ladies within a 10 mile radius of central London who have paid extra to have the green 'available today' showing on their profile.
AmericanPi
09-08-20, 16:40
Let's just say it out loud. Strip Clubs in UK suck! Why would you pay a few hundred pounds to look at pretty girls when you can fuck one in her bed for 150? Get a well reviewed agency girl go to her place and you will NEVER go to a UK strip club again.Honestly I've wondered the same thing here in the US. Strip clubs are legal, and everything else is not. I'm sure the illegality is baked into the pricing. But I've always marveled at the idea of spending 100-200 dollars in a strip club (entry fee, mandatory drink purchases, and lap dances) and leaving with full balls. It's seems like an idiot's game. Especially when the massage parlor up the street will rub one out for you for 100 all-in with none of the games. Sure the girls are less hot, but you want the steak you can only touch or the hamburger you can actually eat?
You all in Europe and Asia don't realize how lucky you are. Here in the US the Puritan laws really mess up the game for us. We have escorts but it's much more a gamble.
In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.
Apologies mate, there was a typo.
"you can't touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly!
I am not sure that is correct. If touching is going on, the premises are breaking the terms of their licence (at least as far as Westminster Council is concerned) which will have been granted by the local Council.
What's more, if you post details of such activities in relation to a specific club you are just helping the enforcement officers to do their job.
The demise of the Windmill Club is an example of this.
In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.Thanks for the information. I have placed an x next to the UK for now.
ThePenetrator
09-10-20, 22:21
Hello guys there have been a lot of talk on this forum lately about London being dead ATM, I would have to disagree, there are still girls out there, but require a bit more searching.
Allow me to introduce you to Nicolle_HOT. SexYXXX.
https://www.adultwork.com/4234006
I wouldn't recommend adultwork to overseas travellers, but this girl is the real deal and she is good as her reviews make her to be. I have seen her 3 times this year and it keeps getting better. She works out of a small flat in Croydon, which is just a 15 min train ride from London Victoria for all you tourist. Owo with sex for the hour is 120, which is little money for all you big ballers out there.
Encounter.
As I entered the door I as greeted with a warm smile, she was wearing red lace lingerie with a body that is more Latino than Romanian, her ass is Phat! She has silicone with a few tattoos, but it flows well. I sat down on the bed and we got talking 80 half an hour with owo. She was very chatty and very tactile.
She pulled me on top of her and started nibbling on my neck, undressing me as she was doing so. Once naked I went down for some tlc, one of the few girls I do that to. Her Pussy is exceptionally smooth, and she was massaging my head whilst I was licking her clit. We switch to 69 but could not get the right angle, she is quite tall about 5,8. She proceeded to give me head for the next 10 minutes. Everything was on the cards, deep throat, shaft licking and playing with the balls. For a good 5 minutes I was buried deep in the back of her throat.
Once the dom went on she got on top, she is Romanian, but I am sure she has got some residual Turkish blood flowing through her because she is strong, tall, and curvaceous. She held me in a vice grip, whilst grinding on top, biting, and licking my ears at the same time. We switch to missionary until I cum, whilst I was on top, she continued with the same biting and licking, a very sensual experience. We chatted for a while then I left, with pleads from her to return, and I will.
I have been mongering for about 10 years now and I would put this girl as one of the best experiences I have had in this country. She easily rivals any FKK girl and is one of those rare gems that want to please her clients.
Steve 9696
09-17-20, 23:07
So every week I like to pop over to Diva website and see who's been fucking my faves and who the new girls are. I've been keeping a list for next time I am in town. There are no less than 17 girls — all 150 £ — that I want to see. 7 repeats and 10 new girls. Damn you guys are lucky who have access. I can't WAIT to go to London and see my Ro-girls! (And one Thai LOL).
JohnReter335
09-18-20, 01:25
So every week I like to pop over to Diva website and see who's been fucking my faves and who the new girls are. I've been keeping a list for next time I am in town. There are no less than 17 girls all 150 that I want to see. 7 repeats and 10 new girls. Damn you guys are lucky who have access. I can't WAIT to go to London and see my Ro-girls! (And one Thai LOL).Wow! You are lucky man you are the one who is going to try all the girls.
JohnReter335
09-18-20, 01:27
Apologies mate, there was a typo.
"you can't touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly!Why the girls won't touch below the belly?
So every week I like to pop over to Diva website and see who's been fucking my faves and who the new girls are. I've been keeping a list for next time I am in town. There are no less than 17 girls all 150 that I want to see. 7 repeats and 10 new girls. Damn you guys are lucky who have access. I can't WAIT to go to London and see my Ro-girls! (And one Thai LOL).I agree! When I look at the Diva reviews page and see folks who have just been with Fortune, Henny, and Mermaid, I just smile and remember the great times I had fucking those girls.
I usually have a "no repeat" rule, but I may bend that rule for one of those girls.
And then I see all of the new girls at 150 who I want to experience as new pussy! I don't know when I'll get a chance to leave the United States and go to London, but when I do I'll have to bring bags of cash and bottles of viagra!
Eurolovelygirl
09-18-20, 22:45
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AmericanPi
09-19-20, 18:35
Man,
I just read an article that made me sick. It was a news article saying International air travel is going to be the last sector to recover and it won't really get going again until 2024.
Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get on an international flight until 2024.
But it probably does mean it will not be as easy as packing your bags and going.
I usually squeeze these trips in with business travel. Otherwise what business do I have going to London for a week? Now that Business "travel" is happening over zoom, I fear we a long time away Unless your life permits you to just pick up and go.
I agree! When I look at the Diva reviews page and see folks who have just been with Fortune, Henny, and Mermaid, I just smile and remember the great times I had fucking those girls.
I usually have a "no repeat" rule, but I may bend that rule for one of those girls.
And then I see all of the new girls at 150 who I want to experience as new pussy! I don't know when I'll get a chance to leave the United States and go to London, but when I do I'll have to bring bags of cash and bottles of viagra!
Man,
I just read an article that made me sick. It was a news article saying International air travel is going to be the last sector to recover and it won't really get going again until 2024.
Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get on an international flight until 2024.
But it probably does mean it will not be as easy as packing your bags and going.
I usually squeeze these trips in with business travel. Otherwise what business do I have going to London for a week? Now that Business "travel" is happening over zoom, I fear we a long time away Unless your life permits you to just pick up and go.Yeah, I would also squeeze in fucking international escorts while on business trips, too. It was getting good and then, bam!, covid shut things down.
So, I'm diversifying my portfolio by following this plan:
- Improving my nutrition and exercise. This is good even in a world without escorts, but, when international travel is back, I want to be as healthy and fit as possible. A healthy body results in even better fucking.
- Trying the Asian Massage Parlor scene (AMP). I'm using USAsexGuide for this. I really hate mongering in places where it's illegal, but I think that AMPS are low risk compared to escorts or streetwalkers. I'm hoping to find a few cute Asian girls not far from where I work and become regulars.
- I'm also studying the great reports in this forum and the USA version. I'm improving my game by increasing my knowledge.
If all goes well, I'll return to places like London fitter and with a few Korean, Thai, Filipina, and Chinese girls added to my body count.
What are the other Americans in this forum doing while we're in lockdown?
Man,
I just read an article that made me sick. It was a news article saying International air travel is going to be the last sector to recover and it won't really get going again until 2024.
Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get on an international flight until 2024.
But it probably does mean it will not be as easy as packing your bags and going.
I usually squeeze these trips in with business travel. Otherwise what business do I have going to London for a week? Now that Business "travel" is happening over zoom, I fear we a long time away Unless your life permits you to just pick up and go.Less business travelers means less revenue for prostitutes. Less revenue for prostitutes means less girls going into the business. Less girls going into the business means sex tourism becoming less attractive. Business travel happening by zoom means sex by zoom, viz. Chaturbate.
Steve 9696
09-22-20, 18:59
Yeah, I would also squeeze in fucking international escorts while on business trips, too. It was getting good and then, bam!, covid
What are the other Americans in this forum doing while we're in lockdown?Seeking Arrangement and sugar babies is where it's at in the US these days. Tons of work but some great finds to be had. I just wrote a beginners guide on the thread over there (under Dating Agencies category).
If you go the AMP route Rubmaps was always a good resource for this when I was doing that scene a few years back.
AmericanPi
09-22-20, 23:46
I will definitely be looking for this seeking arrangements guide. Thanks in advance for writing it.
I always assumed Seeking was just a big steaming pile of scam. I'm actually kind of surprised to hear that it has any merit as a place to get action. Is it reliable? By that I mean do you have to spend a lot of time wading through nonsense, batting away scams and such? Or are the ladies on there actually ready to play?
Seeking Arrangement and sugar babies is where it's at in the US these days. Tons of work but some great finds to be had. I just wrote a beginners guide on the thread over there (under Dating Agencies category).
If you go the AMP route Rubmaps was always a good resource for this when I was doing that scene a few years back.
AmericanPi
09-22-20, 23:47
Honestly, I doubt that.
I'm not saying chaturbate and it's ilk are not doing well. I just think they are a temporary substitute. There's no way people are going to give up human contact. Of all places in the flesh exchange.
Less business travelers means less revenue for prostitutes. Less revenue for prostitutes means less girls going into the business. Less girls going into the business means sex tourism becoming less attractive. Business travel happening by zoom means sex by zoom, viz. Chaturbate.
AmericanPi
09-22-20, 23:49
Honestly nothing.
Used to get my fix at AMPS. But f that. I know people who got COVID and that s* is nasty.
I'm really missing the real thing. But what I am doing now? Sadly, online tube sites and hand lotion. It's sad.
What are the other Americans in this forum doing while we're in lockdown?
In the past I have given a report about street girls in Sussex Gardens and have recommended not seeing them. Some days ago was driving by and saw a nice looking girl. She quoted me £50 for a quick one and we went to a church's backyard. Went to fuck her and her pussy was smelling really bad. Needless to say that I couldn't finish and the encounter ended there. We jumped the fence and after 10 seconds the police appeared. I don't know if there are cameras and they saw us but this could have put me in a lot of troubles. Luckily they didn't stop us. Will never do such a foolish thing.
Steve 9696
09-23-20, 12:59
I will definitely be looking for this seeking arrangements guide. Thanks in advance for writing it.
I always assumed Seeking was just a big steaming pile of scam. I'm actually kind of surprised to hear that it has any merit as a place to get action. Is it reliable? By that I mean do you have to spend a lot of time wading through nonsense, batting away scams and such? Or are the ladies on there actually ready to play?You are absolutely right Seeking is a ton of work. Plenty of scams and straight up hookers (not that that's a bad thing). But if you spend the time and engage in a ton of interactions with the right approach you can find the gems. And gems they are. Real girls who will spend a full evening with you (including GFE sex) and maybe even sleep over. All for the price of one hour with a hooker.
I discovered SA last June and saw 20 girls between June and December, sealing the deal with 18 out of 20. You have to play the game right tho. If you just want to pay for sex, the best girls will run away. Tons of info on this in the Seeking thread.
It's saved my bacon during Covid. I've had two babies where once we got comfy would skip all the "going out" part and just hit the room on a weekly or bi weekly basis. One we even used her place for the meetups. That was pretty great.
Anyhow if you put in the time and have some game it's wonderful. Certainly best thing in the US.
ThePenetrator
09-23-20, 17:58
In the past I have given a report about street girls in Sussex Gardens and have recommended not seeing them. Some days ago was driving by and saw a nice looking girl. She quoted me 50 for a quick one and we went to a church's backyard. Went to fuck her and her pussy was smelling really bad. Needless to say that I couldn't finish and the encounter ended there. We jumped the fence and after 10 seconds the police appeared. I don't know if there are cameras and they saw us but this could have put me in a lot of troubles. Luckily they didn't stop us. Will never do such a foolish thing.Lolol, Morand this is a rookie mistake, I have never and will never touch any street girls in this country. Too risky, especially when there are so many good incall options available, like Nicolle in Croydon. BTW 50 for a quick one sounds like a rip off, especially for a SW.
Marelobo Mex
09-24-20, 02:42
And then I see all of the new girls at 150 who I want to experience as new pussy! I don't know when I'll get a chance to leave the United States and go to London, but when I do I'll have to bring bags of cash and bottles of viagra!Guys, I don't know how you do it.
I don't have any trips planned to London, good thing they wouldn't let me in.
But seeing all those pictures of girls I can't have and will likely never have. That just feels like torture to me.
I am willing to research like crazy when I have a trip coming up and I might get to be with the girl, but it feels cruel to get excited for girls I can't have.
I would rather not look.
MM.
NRandom940
09-24-20, 02:56
I've had two babies where once we got comfy would skip all the "going out" part and just hit the room on a weekly or bi weekly basis. One we even used her place for the meetups. That was pretty great.
Anyhow if you put in the time and have some game it's wonderful. Certainly best thing in the US.Yea but you still have to pay them. And usually an extremely high amount compared to what you can get elsewhere (especially in other countries).
And then there's the whole "going out" part which is boring and costs money, too.
I'll take a window girl over that any day.
NRandom940
09-24-20, 02:59
To me, London is not worth the trouble for mongering purposes. Especially when Belgium and Germany are so close.
I got lucky once in London and found a hot Romanian girl for 60 gbp. But I still had to pay for 2 Uber's (or take the underground), and it was just pure luck that she looked like her photos.
Mostly I just see prices that are way too high and not worth it to me.
Sailfish69
09-24-20, 19:01
First time to London & I am arriving shortly and will be staying very Close to Piccadilly Circus and Soho, is This a good location for mongering in your fine city? I have read back about 10 pages and I thank many of you for providing great details on London. My question is I have heard so much about a few providers namely Melty but I can't seem to find her on any of the agency sites, can someone help me with that. Also is Soho a decent place to monger anymore or just fun to have beers, any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Note-I will only be in London for an overnight but arriving quite early and would like to enjoy London's beauty at least twice LOL.
Steve 9696
09-24-20, 20:24
First time to London & I am arriving shortly and will be staying very Close to Piccadilly Circus and Soho, is This a good location for mongering in your fine city? I have read back about 10 pages and I thank many of you for providing great details on London. My question is I have heard so much about a few providers namely Melty but I can't seem to find her on any of the agency sites, can someone help me with that. Also is Soho a decent place to monger anymore or just fun to have beers, any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Note-I will only be in London for an overnight but arriving quite early and would like to enjoy London's beauty at least twice LOL.Where you stay is not really important for meeting girls. You can Uber just about anywhere. Most of the girls I see (150 £) are in Bayswater or Paddington area but easy to get there from Soho. Just go to the Diva escorts website and have a look around. They have the girls locations also but wouldn't expect many in SoHo as rents are sky high there.
Melty is great but apparently away. Plenty of other great girls. Key thing is read their reviews. You cannot go wrong with a well reviewed Diva girl.
Marelobo Mex
09-25-20, 02:54
Where you stay is not really important for meeting girls. You can Uber just about anywhere. Most of the girls I see (150 ) are in Bayswater or Paddington area but easy to get there from Soho. Just go to the Diva escorts website and have a look around. They have the girls locations also but wouldn't expect many in SoHo as rents are sky high there.
Melty is great but apparently away. Plenty of other great girls. Key thing is read their reviews. You cannot go wrong with a well reviewed Diva girl.S69,
Steve is right, he explained London to me and I had a great time.
Check out the Diva escorts. They were easy to connect with on Whatsapp and gave great service. I am not sure which country you are coming from and what your budget is. I found the Diva girls to be comparable the prices I would pay in my local club. So as long at it fits your budget you should be all set.
Some of the girls are a couple years older than their profile age. It is best to look at the date of the first review and then add the number of years from the review date until today to her age. That tends to be more accurate. Many guys don't care about age but I prefer 18 - 22 year olds, so that was important to me.
Some of the girls photoshop their boobs to make them look bigger, but frequently the cup sized listed is accurate. I prefer A and be cups and I eliminated all girls with enhanced tits, because I don't like silicone.
I only had Melty once and that was mistake I should have repeated with her. I see the following girls who I visited with last year are all working when you will be there.
Elementa.
Brinley.
Lalibela.
Rushana.
As always YMMV and enjoyed some more than others but all got the job done.
Most of them have raised their prices since I had them, but that is what happens with the good ones.
I would also suggest don't be afraid to try out a new girl with no reviews as long as you understand the risk. She may not be that good or she may be amazing and you get to have her before all the other hard penises take a swing at her.
I got started on a layover in Heathrow and I had 5 hours to get to London and back to Heathrow to my plane. After that I purposely booked flights with longer layovers. These where typically cheaper flights to because who wants to sit around the airport all day.
I never took an UBER. You can take the Paddington express from Heathrow to Paddington and and be in downtown London in 20 minutes. There are many girls walking distance from Paddington station, in these beautiful old turn of the century stone buildings. It is the London of my imagination.
Or purchase and oyster card in Heathrow before you get on the train, there is a vending machine that sells them in the train terminal. Then you can ride the tube anywhere you want to go.
I often booked flights to have a 9 or 12 hour layover. I would land in the morning and see my first girl at 9:00 am (frequently she was still in bed). For a new girl I typically did a 30 minute session. Depending on how much I liked her I would the do the second session for 45 or 60 or 120 minutes. Then I would space the girls out so it would take me an hour or so to walk between their apartments that gave me enough time to get through the refractory period and be able to get hard again for the next round. Also walking around London was really pleasant and a great way to see the city, except for when it was raining.
My most adventurous day I saw 6 girls. I couldn't orgasm with all six but I still enjoyed their company. You will have no problem getting 2 in one day, and you can schedule them any time you have 30 minutes free. It is pretty awesome.
By the way spending an entire day in the company of young sexy girls and walking a couple miles between each of their apartments when I got back to the airport and flew out, I slept great the whole flight. Several times people commented about what a great sleeper I was. I just smiled and told them I had a little ritual that helps me sleep.
Anyway back to Diva just request what you want. I tend to be a hot person, so I told Diva to have all each of the girls turn the heat down in their apartment before I arrived. I don't like make up, so I told Diva to request each of the girls to not wear any make up. You request anything you want except for sexual things that is between you and girl, but Diva sets up the rest.
I like to do COF, so I would pick a girl that allowed that for my first session of the day. I never had a girl refuse it if it was in her profile. Although I have heard of girls refusing things, but I didn't experience it
One last tip is when I was doing early morning sessions with the girl, I told Diva that I would confirm the session the night before so I didn't have to deal with it in the morning.
Have great time, I am getting jealous just writing this. Be sure to post a report or send me note let me know how things worked out.
You can PM me if you have more questions.
MM.
Anybody bb a diva girl? PM me if you don't want to answer in public.
Thanks.
ThePenetrator
09-26-20, 13:29
Anybody bb a diva girl? PM me if you don't want to answer in public.
Thanks.Hey Shtupp did you ever meet those girls in Harrow I told you about?
Hey Shtupp did you ever meet those girls in Harrow I told you about?Oh sh! I realized I never said anything since then. Yes I did actually. I investigated two separate places. The problem is that I'm in the Victoria area of London and trying to plan out my day, I would text a girl on WhatsApp but not get a response. I only texted ones off aw or vivastreet. Viva street I have learned is mostly fake pictures. My strategy just turned to going to Harrow (which is about a 45 minute tube ride) and then sit in a pub or restaurant and then start texting girls to see if I could come over. I tried the one where you said there were young girls but they didn't answer me before Milena.
I worked my way over to her neighborhood and called on the phone to get the house number. She greeted me at the door and I was pleased with what I saw. Short thin a cup girl wearing tight top and jeans. She brought me in and then asked if I wanted her or another really skanky looking girl with a cig in her mouth. Of course I went for her. Price for HR BBFS was 200 quid. Then it became obvious that this was a very busy house. At least 4-5 other working girls there with customers. All rooms occupied she then asked if I wanted to do her in the bathroom. Ha! I said sure wtf why not but then a room opened up and we were good to go. Basic service, mechanical nothing really memorable. Basically a cum dump. But she was cute so optically it was ok. BTW about three of the others in the house I would easily do as well. The house is a little pricey though and chaos reigns with clients cuming and going.
Next I texted the one you recommended earlier (Ana I believe) and finally got them to respond. Long story short went in and was presented with three to choose from. Two would not do BBFS so I went with the third. Young, probably about 19, and typical gypsy features. But her attitude. Oh my god. She did not want to be there and it showed. One word answers to everything and never once looked me in the eye. Oh well. I went through with it because she had a rocking body and was actually quite pretty. Did my deed and left. 80/ hhr.
All in all though I get the opinion that they are constantly changing out the talent there so next week will be different than this one. Sure, why not. I actually found a pub there with really cheap pints during the day, but it is a little bit of a trek from London so you have to set aside about four hours out of your day.
ThePenetrator
09-26-20, 22:01
Oh sh! I realized I never said anything since then. Yes I did actually. I investigated two separate places. The problem is that I'm in the Victoria area of London and trying to plan out my day, I would text a girl on WhatsApp but not get a response. I only texted ones off aw or vivastreet. Viva street I have learned is mostly fake pictures. My strategy just turned to going to Harrow (which is about a 45 minute tube ride) and then sit in a pub or restaurant and then start texting girls to see if I could come over. I tried the one where you said there were young girls but they didn't answer me before Milena.
I worked my way over to her neighborhood and called on the phone to get the house number. She greeted me at the door and I was pleased with what I saw. Short thin a cup girl wearing tight top and jeans. She brought me in and then asked if I wanted her or another really skanky looking girl with a cig in her mouth. Of course I went for her. Price for HR BBFS was 200 quid. Then it became obvious that this was a very busy house. At least 4-5 other working girls there with customers. All rooms occupied she then asked if I wanted to do her in the bathroom. Ha! I said sure wtf why not but then a room opened up and we were good to go. Basic service, mechanical nothing really memorable. Basically a cum dump. But she was cute so optically it was ok. BTW about three of the others in the house I would easily do as well. The house is a little pricey though and chaos reigns with clients cuming and going.The girls in Harrow are always on a rotation. I follow the facebooks & tiktoks of the ones I like to see so I know when they are back in London.
You said you paid 200 for the HR are you sure this was not 100? The girls in harrow do full service for an HR for 100. The ones that do full service anyway.
Viva street is tricky, so I use whatsapp to confirm it is really them I also match up the numbers on vivastreet to adultwork to ensure its not a possible bait and switch.
These are the girls I have been with in harrow so far, let me know if you have seen any of them.
https://www.adultwork.com/5601518 Bianca, lovely girl, fantastic service. Will return for full service later in the year.
https://www.adultwork.com/5595170 I have seen the girl in the picture. Fantastic service. Lovely little spinner and very submissive. Full service for an HR. However, she is now back in Romania and someone else is using her profile.
https://www.adultwork.com/5623200 Was this one of the girls you went with? My session with her was good, I will return for full service later in the year. I like that she is tall and slender.
https://www.adultwork.com/5598836 Avoid this girl, she is insane, was barking at me to cum 15 min into a 30 min session. Harden pro who has been in the game to long.
https://www.vivastreet.co.uk/escort/harrow-ha1/new-lady-in-harrow-wealdstone-wembley-kingsbury-sudbury/211812029 This one gave the most sublime head. She differently loves her work. The hour with her was one of the best experiences I had this year.
The girls in Harrow are always on a rotation. I follow the facebooks & tiktoks of the ones I like to see so I know when they are back in London.
You said you paid 200 for the HR are you sure this was not 100? The girls in harrow do full service for an HR for 100. The ones that do full service anyway.
Viva street is tricky, so I use whatsapp to confirm it is really them I also match up the numbers on vivastreet to adultwork to ensure its not a possible bait and switch.
These are the girls I have been with in harrow so far, let me know if you have seen any of them.
https://www.adultwork.com/5601518 Bianca, lovely girl, fantastic service. Will return for full service later in the year.
https://www.adultwork.com/5595170 I have seen the girl in the picture. Fantastic service. Lovely little spinner and very submissive. Full service for an HR. However, she is now back in Romania and someone else is using her profile.
https://www.adultwork.com/5623200 Was this one of the girls you went with? My session with her was good, I will return for full service later in the year. I like that she is tall and slender.
https://www.adultwork.com/5598836 Avoid this girl, she is insane, was barking at me to cum 15 min into a 30 min session. Harden pro who has been in the game to long.
https://www.vivastreet.co.uk/escort/harrow-ha1/new-lady-in-harrow-wealdstone-wembley-kingsbury-sudbury/211812029 This one gave the most sublime head. She differently loves her work. The hour with her was one of the best experiences I had this year.I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.
Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.
The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.
All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Kuldud2001
09-28-20, 18:21
I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.
Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.
The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.
All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.
Thanks for your suggestions!I think your feedback is probably similar to most of London for the non-high / non Diva like agency escorts.
Been here a few years and below is my understanding.
A majority of the girls on AW are either Romanian or east European. Most of the Romanians will be £80 for the hour, £60 for half hour and BBBJ included. Some of them do Bareback as well. Never tried but they write so on their profiles. Those photos are mostly genuine. But in most cases the house is like a working girl house where there will be multiple girls who are on a rotation and you get to meet whoever you have called / chosen. My experience with these ones has mostly been poor. They are always in a rush-rush situation, asking you to get done in half of your time, they stink of smoke and you wouldn't want to be there in all likeliness. They never have a word with you or have single word answers, no eye contact or any feeling. Extremely mechanical. This is not saying you wouldn't have any good ones. But they are extremely far and few. Out of around 40 experiences, I have had about 4 which were extremely pleasant, 10 which were ok-ok and the others were mainly negative.
You might also get some Hungarian or Slovak ones every now and then. The experience with them is mostly positive or at least better than Romanians.
I have come to the point to avoid Romanians like the plague.
With regards to Viva. Most of the ads are fake or photos are fake but service tends to be a bit better.
In the area I am at there is generally 1 or 2 ads by a Korean or a Japanese provider. Again they have a rotation policy and every couple of weeks there will be a new girls. Even their photos are totally fake and so is their details. They will write about a girl in 20's but it will always by a bit older. However. The experience here is much better. Most of the times it will be a mid quality but clean apartment or a house. You will be welcomes by an Asian hustler and guided to the room. Again smells of cigarettes but not very bad. The charge is £100 per hour and then another £10 for BBBJ. But the experience is overall much better. They allow a good level of GFE, do some massaging, playing over the body and then the normal action. And then repeat. They also help you get dressed and one of them was so particular that she mended by collars, belts, etc. As I was trying to rush out in hurry.
Given the more recent experience I have almost moved to the Asian ones rather than eastern European ones.
ThePenetrator
09-28-20, 21:47
I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.
Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.
The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.
All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.
Thanks for your suggestions!Shtupp you hit the nail on the head. When I see a diva girl I am going to write a long review, since there is so much discussion about them on this forum. But my bread and butter has been A work and viva. This is because I like to visit girls every week, not just once or twice a month.
Areas like Harrow, Wembley, Stratford, Croydon are prime hunting grounds for someone looking for a cheap session. This is because rent is cheap with high immigration so its easy to open a working girl house without anyone noticing.
Bianca is still fresh in the game, she has only been around since January I believe; so she is not jaded like the other girl I warned you about, (they both work in the same house) you will like her. She is sweet and talkative. I will gladly drop a 100 on her.
Hey Kuldud2001 I agree with your sentiment. Romanians have a bad rep, but I find the gypsy girls do give better service. Personally, I like the gypsy look, but I know some guys don't.
Regarding east Asians, I have rarely ever gone with them since all! Their ads are fake.
I think whether you go with an agency like Diva, a diamond in the rough on A Work or viva, or a sugar baby on SA all depends on time. For me, especially when I'm in a foreign city like London, I'm trying to squeeze the most out of every minute and second. So, spending lots of time on something that may be a mediocre / horrible experience isn't my cup of tea. In my experience, Diva supplies the highest probability for an attractive girl for a price I'm willing to pay, and the time commitment is low.
Actually, this applies to the mongering I'm doing in the USA. I need to easily find a stunner, fuck her, and be on my way, ideally in an hour or less. Two pops is a nice bonus.
However, I totally respect those who have the time and the will to use other avenues.
AlwaysOn2020
09-29-20, 20:21
I think whether you go with an agency like Diva, a diamond in the rough on A Work or viva, or a sugar baby on SA all depends on time. For me, especially when I'm in a foreign city like London, I'm trying to squeeze the most out of every minute and second. So, spending lots of time on something that may be a mediocre / horrible experience isn't my cup of tea. In my experience, Diva supplies the highest probability for an attractive girl for a price I'm willing to pay, and the time commitment is low.
Actually, this applies to the mongering I'm doing in the USA. I need to easily find a stunner, fuck her, and be on my way, ideally in an hour or less. Two pops is a nice bonus.
However, I totally respect those who have the time and the will to use other avenues.Exactly. Diva is the absolute best. Just a little background. I was in London for about a year till a few months ago. With the wife being here in the US, tried every other legit agency (and adultwork). While my absolute best experience (one I'll never forget), was not with Diva, they were the most consistent when it comes to quality. So much so that I spent quite a bit of green with just their agency, close to 2 k on just one Diva and got their membership as well. Peachy was so-and so, Babylon was good as well, but slightly more expensive.
Anyway, I'm back in the US now, blue balls syndrome kicking in and counting down the days to my next trip to London, what a city. Shall post the reviews for the ladies I had the pleasure to meet over the next few days. Cheers!
AlwaysOn2020
09-29-20, 20:27
I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.
Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.
The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.
All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.
Thanks for your suggestions!One of the reasons I avoided Harrow is because most of the women there offer BB. There's another forum I found a while back that was dedicated to BB services in and around London and there were tons of reviews of ladies in and around Harrow. Now, if that's what you prefer, no judgement. But I preferred playing safe. I know the monger game is never safe 100% and the feel of BB is unbeatable, just too risky.
Kuldud2001
09-30-20, 09:20
Shtupp you hit the nail on the head. When I see a diva girl I am going to write a long review, since there is so much discussion about them on this forum. But my bread and butter has been A work and viva. This is because I like to visit girls every week, not just once or twice a month.
Areas like Harrow, Wembley, Stratford, Croydon are prime hunting grounds for someone looking for a cheap session. This is because rent is cheap with high immigration so its easy to open a working girl house without anyone noticing.
Bianca is still fresh in the game, she has only been around since January I believe; so she is not jaded like the other girl I warned you about, (they both work in the same house) you will like her. She is sweet and talkative. I will gladly drop a 100 on her.
Hey Kuldud2001 I agree with your sentiment. Romanians have a bad rep, but I find the gypsy girls do give better service. Personally, I like the gypsy look, but I know some guys don't.
Regarding east Asians, I have rarely ever gone with them since all! Their ads are fake.The problem with Romanians is just not the handlers. Sometimes the girls are also very rude.
On the points about East Asians. Their ads are fake from the photos perspective but they also have a lady handler. Give them a call and they will send you the photos of the available one. That part is genuine. The service is very nice and personal. I am mostly in Croydon. So if you need pointers. Send me a DM.
Shall post the reviews for the ladies I had the pleasure to meet over the next few days. Cheers!It's always good to meet another happy Diva customer! I look forward to reading your reviews. I know that writing a detailed review takes a lot of time, but we all really appreciate the outcome.
Steve 9696
09-30-20, 18:58
It's always good to meet another happy Diva customer! I look forward to reading your reviews. I know that writing a detailed review takes a lot of time, but we all really appreciate the outcome.It's good to see some of my girls getting some love on the Diva reviews. Mermaid was on tear for a while and recommended by Andy F s I gave her a roll twice. Wow. That girl is passionate. I think her DFK may be top worldwide best. And that's a high bar!
Good to see Noleta getting the love too. What an amazing pleaser she is. Gorgeous and offers me wine from her fridge. Pure bliss. Glad she's getting due respect these days. She will be top of my list now that Melty seems to have flown maybe for good.
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?Never been to Montreal but I think the cost will be approximately the same. From now on will be freezing in Montreal so it's better to visit London.
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?Quick answer for cheapness: Montreal (though not by much).
I take 1 of 2 paths when it comes to accommodation: luxury hotel or airbnb. When comparing apples to apples, I always felt like I got more for less in Montreal.
Food: It's a wash. Totally depends on where you eat. It can be high or low in both places.
Trans: the pound conversion always kills me, but both cities are really easy to get around in. I prefer London for options to get around. I usually rent a car in Montreal which gives you alot more options for getting around. I wouldn't drive in London. Just my opinion.
The hobby: Totally depends on how you engage the hobby (Strip clubs / AMP / outcall / GFE session / sex party, etc) and how many girls you want to bang. In general, you will spend less in Montreal. For example: If I wanted CIF in Montreal, she may want an additional 30 - 50 CD, where in London she would want 50 Pounds more. That's $37 vs $64 for that CIF extra. London has more choices, but if you are converting from US dollars, you will spend a bit less in Montreal (and I love the french Montreal girls. OMG). This applies to SBs too. I've seen that SBs want 300 - 500 in their respective currencies. If you negotiate 300 in both places, that's literally a difference of $160 based on currency conversion. Montreal wins.
If I'm trying to spend less and take a shorter flight, I would hit Montreal. If flight time didn't' matter, I would choose London, even though it's a bit more expensive.
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AmericanPi
10-07-20, 06:44
I've done both and enjoyed both immensely.
Honestly, I think you might be asking the wrong question. You might spend a little bit less in Montreal, but it's comparing the cost of McDonald's to Five Guys. There's a price difference but it's not the reason you would choose one or the other.
Both are European-like destinations. Both have European-like girls, although in London they're more Eastern European and in Montreal they're more French Canadian.
The real decision is what kind of experience you want to have around the hobby. London is a world Mecca with theater, tube, sights, etc. Montreal is more compact (tho still a large city), with fewer tourist sites but beautiful. And it's closer and easier to get to if you're American.
That's really how I'd decide. If time were no constraint I'd do London because there's just so much to do in between sessions.
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?
Hi gents. One more endorsement for Olina escorts here, after seeing a few girls there. My favorite so far is Nicky: hot body, and she did all that I wanted with little or no prompting (FIV, FIA, rimming, anal), where other girls can seem to hold back even for services on their menu. I saw a couple of girls that aren't there anymore, and the only trouble with some of these girls is that the pictures can be 'generous' - they're of the real girls, but as you can expect, they're retouched so that the girls look better in the pictures. Still, though, their services have been as described. Sorry I don't have all the names, but Nicky is one that's still there, that I would recommend.
Steve 9696
10-07-20, 18:51
Hi gents. One more endorsement for Olina escorts here, after seeing a few girls there. My favorite so far is Nicky: hot body, and she did all that I wanted with little or no prompting (FIV, FIA, rimming, anal), where other girls can seem to hold back even for services on their menu. I saw a couple of girls that aren't there anymore, and the only trouble with some of these girls is that the pictures can be 'generous' - they're of the real girls, but as you can expect, they're retouched so that the girls look better in the pictures. Still, though, their services have been as described. Sorry I don't have all the names, but Nicky is one that's still there, that I would recommend.Yeah Nicky was on my to do list. She was pretty new when I was last there. Definitely need to check her out. Anna is positively worth a visit. She's a bit older at late 20's but fuck wow what a wildcat. Will DFK your face off and is one horny girl. High recommend.
I've done both and enjoyed both immensely.
Honestly, I think you might be asking the wrong question. You might spend a little bit less in Montreal, but it's comparing the cost of McDonald's to Five Guys. There's a price difference but it's not the reason you would choose one or the other.
Both are European-like destinations. Both have European-like girls, although in London they're more Eastern European and in Montreal they're more French Canadian.
The real decision is what kind of experience you want to have around the hobby. London is a world Mecca with theater, tube, sights, etc. Montreal is more compact (tho still a large city), with fewer tourist sites but beautiful. And it's closer and easier to get to if you're American.
That's really how I'd decide. If time were no constraint I'd do London because there's just so much to do in between sessions.I have asked the other question before and it came out even stevens. I'm thinking the same outcome in terms of expenditure. I have been to both cities, London on numerous occasions and Montreal in 1984. I visited strip clubs in both cities but never mongered. I like both cities very much.
I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?Prices are not set in stone but here you go. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United+Kingdom&city2=London.
I see lots of good reviews here about Diva girls, and I am tempted to try a duo, but a question about the 'bi duo' service that is listed on a lot of the girls' pages: do the girls play with each other? I'd like to have a duo where the girls play with each other (make out with each other, eat each others pussies, lick each others tits), and also play with me. When I have tried a duo at FKK clubs, the girls just played with me, but didn't really touch each other. So, is a 'bi duo' with Diva girls really bi, or do the girls just play with the man?
I'm confused, because in FKK I barely found any girls willing to play with each other (and even then I hear it's mechanical), but I see lots of girls that offer 'bi duo' on Diva. The number of 'bi duo' girls seems too good to be true, so I wonder if 'bi' isn't actually real. However, it also looks like all the girls with 'bi duo' as a service are also listed with an orientation of 'bi' in their profiles, while some other girls are listed as 'hetero', don't offer 'bi duo' service, but still have duo partners listed (examples: Lalibela, Sakura) - so maybe these are the girls that only play with the man in the duo, while the 'bi duo' girls also play with each other?
This is a question on Diva girls in general when the 'bi duo' service is listed (if there is any consistent standard), but like anything else it might depend on the girls. The duos I'm eyeing are with Noleta+Tiramisu, Frieda+Mikel, and Sarah+(whoever she duos with).
Steve 9696
10-09-20, 11:20
I see lots of good reviews here about Diva girls, and I am tempted to try a duo, but a question about the 'bi duo' service that is listed on a lot of the girls' pages: do the girls play with each other? I'd like to have a duo where the girls play with each other (make out with each other, eat each others pussies, lick each others tits), and also play with me. When I have tried a duo at FKK clubs, the girls just played with me, but didn't really touch each other. So, is a 'bi duo' with Diva girls really bi, or do the girls just play with the man?
I'm confused, because in FKK I barely found any girls willing to play with each other (and even then I hear it's mechanical), but I see lots of girls that offer 'bi duo' on Diva. The number of 'bi duo' girls seems too good to be true, so I wonder if 'bi' isn't actually real. However, it also looks like all the girls with 'bi duo' as a service are also listed with an orientation of 'bi' in their profiles, while some other girls are listed as 'hetero', don't offer 'bi duo' service, but still have duo partners listed (examples: Lalibela, Sakura) - so maybe these are the girls that only play with the man in the duo, while the 'bi duo' girls also play with each other?
This is a question on Diva girls in general when the 'bi duo' service is listed (if there is any consistent standard), but like anything else it might depend on the girls. The duos I'm eyeing are with Noleta+Tiramisu, Frieda+Mikel, and Sarah+(whoever she duos with).You are absolutely correct that, in Diva terms, a duo is two girls on a guy and a Bi-duo involves the girls on each other. Lots of girls list it but unfortunately very few girls are truly into it, just as you say. I remember Fiona complaining that she had to service a woman but Rivetta lamenting that she can't find a good true bi-girl for Diva to pair her with. So it varies and unfortunately I think it's a dice roll with not great odds.
That said I'the roll the dice with Noleta and Tiramisu. Noleta is such a pleaser and super sensual. I'the be surprised if she's not bi or at least can fake it with the best. And even if the bi part doesn't work out I know Noleta Tiramisu will be legendary and worth every penny.
That said I'the roll the dice with Noleta and Tiramisu. Noleta is such a pleaser and super sensual. I'the be surprised if she's not bi or at least can fake it with the best. And even if the bi part doesn't work out I know Noleta Tiramisu will be legendary and worth every penny.I agree with Steve. I fucked Noleta a little over a year ago, and she is super attractive with almost runway model looks. My session with he was before she had breast implants put in, and I personally preferred her natural breasts. However, if you don't mind fake tits, then Noleta is a sure thing.
I met Tiramisu after I finished with Noleta (they were room mates), and she was stunning. She was sitting down, and she just exuded sexiness. Fucking both of them will certainly be a good time.
Prices are not set in stone but here you go. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United+Kingdom&city2=London.Hope this link works. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=Canada&city2=Montreal.
Hope this link works. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=Canada&city2=Montreal.Thanks. You think I could introduce an additional item under 'Sports and leisure'? Heheheheheh.
I regularly read the Diva Escort reviews page which consistently gets updated with new reviews. Having used their services, I've gotten pretty good at picking out the girls I'd like to fuck based on their profile, pictures, number and types of reviews, etc (you can search my posts to see the rubric I use). It's nice to see the girls I really enjoyed get very positive reviews which aligns with my experiences with them.
This got me thinking. If I could only fuck one Diva girl again who I've fucked before which one would it be? The four that immediately come to the top of the list are Mermaid (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-mermaid), Noleta (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-noleta), Fortune (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune), and Henny (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny). Mermaid was an amazing kisser and just an overall freak, Noleta is gorgeous, and Fortune is lovely and sweet. However, I think I would go with Henny. She has such a great personality, and she's tall with knockout looks. The sex was really good. The pictures on the Diva site don't do her justice, and, if I could only fuck one Diva girl for the rest of my life who I've previously sampled, it would be Henny.
I wanted to share this with the lucky bastards on this forum who can get to London. Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there. So, gentlemen, enjoy her! Thanks in advance for your detailed reviews. . . .
Steve 9696
10-13-20, 02:28
I regularly read the Diva Escort reviews page which consistently gets updated with new reviews. Having used their services, I've gotten pretty good at picking out the girls I'd like to fuck based on their profile, pictures, number and types of reviews, etc (you can search my posts to see the rubric I use). It's nice to see the girls I really enjoyed get very positive reviews which aligns with my experiences with them.
This got me thinking. If I could only fuck one Diva girl again who I've fucked before which one would it be? The four that immediately come to the top of the list are Mermaid (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-mermaid), Noleta (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-noleta), Fortune (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune), and Henny (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny). Mermaid was an amazing kisser and just an overall freak, Noleta is gorgeous, and Fortune is lovely and sweet. However, I think I would go with Henny. She has such a great personality, and she's tall with knockout looks. The sex was really good. The pictures on the Diva site don't do her justice, and, if I could only fuck one Diva girl for the rest of my life who I've previously sampled, it would be Henny.
I wanted to share this with the lucky bastards on this forum who can get to London. Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there. So, gentlemen, enjoy her! Thanks in advance for your detailed reviews. . . .Interesting! We have Mermaid, Noleta and Fortune in common all of whom I would repeat with. Never been with Henny something about her face doesn't rub me right. But now that you recommended her so highly and knowing your taste is my taste. Well well. I have to admit I thought Mermaid was a bit not my taste but Andy recommended her so highly and wow she is much prettier in person. And that DFK. None better. Funny thing about that on adultwork and elsewhere you always hear about these bad surprises. I have to say I've always thought my Diva girls are prettier in person.
All that said, Melty is back! Damn I adore that sex kitten. She would probably be towards the top of my list. New girl Estella absolutely slays me on looks so she might be first up if I ever get back there. Damn soooo many good choices.
JohnReter335
10-13-20, 02:44
Thanks. You think I could introduce an additional item under 'Sports and leisure'? Heheheheheh.I tried to open the link but it shows error.
Damn soooo many good choices.You guys put up a very strong case for Diva. As I think Steve knows, I'm not a fan of using escorts. I much prefer to attend a German FKK, or Spanish brothel / club and have a line up to select from. But when the recommendations are as strong as these it is hard to ignore them and I think when I'm next in London I'll take up some of your recommendations. Looks wise I prefer Melty out of the group you put forward. Though her profile says she is dress size 10 - larger than I like. I prefer slim girls to curvy.
I was put off a while ago when I thought the pictures of Rochelle were knock out. And booked her only to be very disappointed by her looks. Nice girl and her service was ok. But I would never have selected her in a line up in a club and felt tricked. Her pictures show her having (still) a size 8 toned figure, even though her profile say size 10 - in the flesh I thought she was quite easily a size 12. These are the issues with escorts. The pictures can be old and horribly misleading. When you can select from a line up you see before you buy! But I'll give it a go when I'm back to London. Not likely for a month or so but will for sure give it a whirl as two experienced mongers both promoting the same names cannot be wrong. Mermaid looks hot to me.
You guys put up a very strong case for Diva. As I think Steve knows, I'm not a fan of using escorts. I much prefer to attend a German FKK, or Spanish brothel / club and have a line up to select from. But when the recommendations are as strong as these it is hard to ignore them and I think when I'm next in London I'll take up some of your recommendations. Looks wise I prefer Melty out of the group you put forward. Though her profile says she is dress size 10 - larger than I like. I prefer slim girls to curvy.
I was put off a while ago when I thought the pictures of Rochelle were knock out. And booked her only to be very disappointed by her looks. Nice girl and her service was ok. But I would never have selected her in a line up in a club and felt tricked. Her pictures show her having (still) a size 8 toned figure, even though her profile say size 10 - in the flesh I thought she was quite easily a size 12. These are the issues with escorts. The pictures can be old and horribly misleading. When you can select from a line up you see before you buy! But I'll give it a go when I'm back to London. Not likely for a month or so but will for sure give it a whirl as two experienced mongers both promoting the same names cannot be wrong. Mermaid looks hot to me.Would recommend this one. Banging body, model face and is very happy with her job.
https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=5830868
Interesting! We have Mermaid, Noleta and Fortune in common all of whom I would repeat with. Never been with Henny something about her face doesn't rub me right. But now that you recommended her so highly and knowing your taste is my taste. Well well. I have to admit I thought Mermaid was a bit not my taste but Andy recommended her so highly and wow she is much prettier in person. And that DFK. None better. Funny thing about that on adultwork and elsewhere you always hear about these bad surprises. I have to say I've always thought my Diva girls are prettier in person.
All that said, Melty is back! Damn I adore that sex kitten. She would probably be towards the top of my list. New girl Estella absolutely slays me on looks so she might be first up if I ever get back there. Damn soooo many good choices.Henny is way prettier in person than her pictures. She's actually younger looking and more attractive than her pictures suggest (even her selfies).
I hope to get a go at Melty at some point. I generally don't like to go above size 6, but it sounds like she has curves in all the right places.
You guys put up a very strong case for Diva. As I think Steve knows, I'm not a fan of using escorts. I much prefer to attend a German FKK, or Spanish brothel / club and have a line up to select from. But when the recommendations are as strong as these it is hard to ignore them and I think when I'm next in London I'll take up some of your recommendations. Looks wise I prefer Melty out of the group you put forward. Though her profile says she is dress size 10 - larger than I like. I prefer slim girls to curvy.I definitely think you should give Diva a try. I'm optimistically looking forward to your reviews!
JohnReter335
10-13-20, 22:02
I definitely think you should give Diva a try. I'm optimistically looking forward to your reviews!Yes I prefer Diva too at least 1 try.
Thanks. You think I could introduce an additional item under 'Sports and leisure'? Heheheheheh.With another round of restrictions and the end of Free movement into the UK soon hitting hard all well known Escort Agencies, clubs and many massage places closed, I wouldn't head to London for mongering.
The years of Good Mongering in London will be just a Good Memory.
AlwaysOn2020
10-16-20, 17:38
It's always good to meet another happy Diva customer! I look forward to reading your reviews. I know that writing a detailed review takes a lot of time, but we all really appreciate the outcome.Sorry about the delayed posts. Crazy few weeks at work here. So, of all the experiences in London, my absolute favorite at Diva was Irada. Disclaimer being that I haven't met Melty and I prefer petite, GFE, submissive beauties. So much so that I met her thrice over the course of 2 months. With Diva, Babylon etc. , I usually go for the at least 90 min. Of service and if available, choose filming with Mask as well. For me, the fetish has been 2 fold, I love to take a few hits of green on my vape and be in my happy space before meeting any of these angels. The video helps me revisit the entire experience later (usually after a few more hits of my vape: D). Moreover, back here in the US, I usually avoid Mongering. The memories of London stay safely tucked away on Google Cloud to help go back to the happy memories.
Anyway, about the experience itself, I've met Irada thrice. Though not the first lady I've met in London, I'll start with her. I'll end with the Pros & Cons at the end so you guys can decide if you would prefer to meet her.
My first session was for 90 min. Booked her through Diva. She is on some of the other websites as well, but the rates vary sometimes. She had a pic on Diva in all black with a headband. Asked if she could come home in that outfit & she happily obliged. Once she arrived, offered her some wine and got around to chatting for a few min. She's fairly shy with broken English but spoke to her for about 5-10 min. To get her comfortable. Got the formalities out of the way and we started with DFK while I helped her remove her top. Worked my hand around her bra clasp and tried to undo it. She turned around and I managed to get the bra off. All this while I was sitting on the bed and she was standing in front of me. She turned back around and I ate away her tiny breasts as though I hadn't had a meal all day. She doesn't have massive jugs and if that's what turns you on, she may not be a good fit for you. If you prefer them petite, you can't go wrong with her. All this while (with her permission of course), I had my Iphone at the corner on the desk recording the deed. I let her lay down on the bed and continued eating away. Her nipples were pointed and hard on, I could hear her breathe heavy and moan ever so quietly. The best part was, all of it was authentic, not the crazy fake moans that some of ladies do just to keep the guy happy. Later on, when I revisited the video, I could see that she had her eyes closed and was licking her lips while I ate away her supple breasts and moved to FIV. After this, she started with some splendid CBJ. Slow and steady, GFE style. The only bit I was not truly happy with was that she never got around to complete DT, which I prefer. Next, she lay back and spread her legs as though to invite me to her gorgeous little V. Moved on to Missionary. After going at it for about 15 min. , she got her lube and I tried A+ as well. This was the first time I was trying A+ in all my life. Funny enough I think she took A+ easier than PIV. The whole deed took about 30-40 min. Or so, I kept moving around my phone cam to get the best views possible. Climaxed back in Missionary, with her legs all the way up on my shoulders and me thrusting away like an animal in heat. We did have a round 2 as well, won't go into it in detail, the experience was more or less the same.
So, coming to Pros & Cons.
Pros: GFE, Petite with a beautiful Body, No Tattoos, Fairly submissive (allows you to lead. I think that's the way she prefers it), Photos are Spot On. I see Diva has some new videos up of her as well. You Get what you see.
Cons: Not total DT. If you prefer the lady to be wild, she may not be the right one for you. Takes some time to warm up, but totally worth it (By the 3rd visit, it was as though we had been dating for ages).
Rating: 9/10 (Again, to reiterate, you'd feel the same only if you like Petite, submissive types).
Now, a total win for me was that I was able to find her on Instagram. I had paid a portion of the formalities through Bank Transfer. Somehow Instagram used the data on my phone, I guess, to suggest her Profile. Quite scary but for once, IG's data exploits worked in my favor: the. So nowadays I do go back to her IG profile once in a while to truly appreciate what an angel she is. She has quite the following there. With that and the few videos I have with her over the course of the 3 visits, Irada was a true Win for me. What an Angel. Highly recommended.
I've tried Peachy, Babylon, Diva & AdultWork over the course of my stay in London. Shall post the other reviews in the coming days. Irada was not my truly Absolute favorite though. Funny enough, the true favorite was not with any of these agencies but at one of those home spas. Will come to that review later. But among all the agencies, I'd say Irada was my Favortie. Of Course, YMMV.
Cheers.
I don't have a premium account here, probably will some day if I actively post reviews etc. Any idea if that's how it works? Meanwhile, do post here if you guys have any questions.
AlwaysOn2020
10-16-20, 18:08
I regularly read the Diva Escort reviews page which consistently gets updated with new reviews. Having used their services, I've gotten pretty good at picking out the girls I'd like to fuck based on their profile, pictures, number and types of reviews, etc (you can search my posts to see the rubric I use). It's nice to see the girls I really enjoyed get very positive reviews which aligns with my experiences with them.
This got me thinking. If I could only fuck one Diva girl again who I've fucked before which one would it be? The four that immediately come to the top of the list are Mermaid (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-mermaid), Noleta (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-noleta), Fortune (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune), and Henny (https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny). Mermaid was an amazing kisser and just an overall freak, Noleta is gorgeous, and Fortune is lovely and sweet. However, I think I would go with Henny. She has such a great personality, and she's tall with knockout looks. The sex was really good. The pictures on the Diva site don't do her justice, and, if I could only fuck one Diva girl for the rest of my life who I've previously sampled, it would be Henny.
I wanted to share this with the lucky bastards on this forum who can get to London. Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there. So, gentlemen, enjoy her! Thanks in advance for your detailed reviews. . . ."Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there". So Fkin True. I'm hoping the Canadian border opens soon so I can happily drive over to Toronto. Never mongered there but have been hearing good things. Crazy 2020 - Blue balls ever since I've come back from London.
Thanks to those who responded, for the advice. I saw that Melty & Pantera are back, so I opted for a duo with them: it was fantastic. They did most advertised services (only Melty welcomed fingering, Pantera did not), both have large natural tits (especially Pantera), and it was a great time all-around. I stayed for several hours so it was quite expensive, but I had a very good time- I was concerned about if the girls would play with each other, which they did, and they did it enthusiastically without prompting. Highly recommended, and I would do it again without hesitation. Making out and sucking each others' tits. I didn't ask for pussy play so I don't know if they do it. They also seemed like really nice girls. Melty took the lead, but both were very cooperative throughout. The only thing that I like that wasn't on offer was rimming, but that was true to their profiles, so I knew that before going in.
I see lots of good reviews here about Diva girls, and I am tempted to try a duo, but a question about the 'bi duo' service that is listed on a lot of the girls' pages: do the girls play with each other? I'd like to have a duo where the girls play with each other (make out with each other, eat each others pussies, lick each others tits), and also play with me. When I have tried a duo at FKK clubs, the girls just played with me, but didn't really touch each other. So, is a 'bi duo' with Diva girls really bi, or do the girls just play with the man?
I'm confused, because in FKK I barely found any girls willing to play with each other (and even then I hear it's mechanical), but I see lots of girls that offer 'bi duo' on Diva. The number of 'bi duo' girls seems too good to be true, so I wonder if 'bi' isn't actually real. However, it also looks like all the girls with 'bi duo' as a service are also listed with an orientation of 'bi' in their profiles, while some other girls are listed as 'hetero', don't offer 'bi duo' service, but still have duo partners listed (examples: Lalibela, Sakura) - so maybe these are the girls that only play with the man in the duo, while the 'bi duo' girls also play with each other?
This is a question on Diva girls in general when the 'bi duo' service is listed (if there is any consistent standard), but like anything else it might depend on the girls. The duos I'm eyeing are with Noleta+Tiramisu, Frieda+Mikel, and Sarah+(whoever she duos with).
AlwaysOn2020
10-18-20, 16:56
Thanks to those who responded, for the advice. I saw that Melty & Pantera are back, so I opted for a duo with them: it was fantastic. They did most advertised services (only Melty welcomed fingering, Pantera did not), both have large natural tits (especially Pantera), and it was a great time all-around. I stayed for several hours so it was quite expensive, but I had a very good time- I was concerned about if the girls would play with each other, which they did, and they did it enthusiastically without prompting. Highly recommended, and I would do it again without hesitation. Making out and sucking each others' tits. I didn't ask for pussy play so I don't know if they do it. They also seemed like really nice girls. Melty took the lead, but both were very cooperative throughout. The only thing that I like that wasn't on offer was rimming, but that was true to their profiles, so I knew that before going in.Should have mentioned in my previous review. Irada offers Rim as well. I did partake in my 3rd / final session with her. Along with A+ it was my 'First time' as well so don't have a benchmark to compare. Goes into my list of Pros nonetheless. Not sure if she offers Duos.
Awesome review. Looks like we have another Diva fan in the house.
Anyway, about the experience itself, I've met Irada thrice. Though not the first lady I've met in London, I'll start with her. I'll end with the Pros & Cons at the end so you guys can decide if you would prefer to meet her.
I don't have a premium account here, probably will some day if I actively post reviews etc. Any idea if that's how it works? Meanwhile, do post here if you guys have any questions.This was such a great review! Thank you. I've added Irada to my list of Diva girls to sample when I get a chance.
Thanks to those who responded, for the advice. I saw that Melty & Pantera are back, so I opted for a duo with them: it was fantastic. They did most advertised services (only Melty welcomed fingering, Pantera did not), both have large natural tits (especially Pantera), and it was a great time all-around. I stayed for several hours so it was quite expensive, but I had a very good time- I was concerned about if the girls would play with each other, which they did, and they did it enthusiastically without prompting. Highly recommended, and I would do it again without hesitation. Making out and sucking each others' tits. I didn't ask for pussy play so I don't know if they do it. They also seemed like really nice girls. Melty took the lead, but both were very cooperative throughout. The only thing that I like that wasn't on offer was rimming, but that was true to their profiles, so I knew that before going in.This sounds like an amazing experience! I'm jealous of you and all the other guys who have experienced Melty. I hope to do so myself whenever I can escape the USA.
Hi guys,
Met with Chelsea baker for 24 hrs last month thought I would treat myself. She is high end.
Outcall London hotel.
Services neutral, FK, owo, sex basic positions. I think she has become jaded by industry very quick. Tbh it. Was hugely underwhelming but as a bonus she sends you some pics of herself as a gift.
She sends out free photos to potential clients, DM for details.
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Hi Gents. I've recently spent time with Sarah from Diva. She's Brazilian, and it was a GREAT time. She was very passionate and did everything I liked with enthusiasm. Excellent DFK, wet BJ, passionate ball-licking and rimming, accepted fingering gladly. I had the time of my life. I don't think she does anal, but I didn't even ask since I'm not so into it anyway. Only down-side was that her boobs are fake. They're nice, but it's not my preference. Her English isn't great, but she spoke enough to get by and we used an app for the rest.
Overall, Sarah was top shelf all the way. More expensive rates than some other Diva girls, but Brazilians aren't as easy to find with Diva and she doesn't up-charge for extras that many of the other girls add charges for. I thought she was worth it, and I expect to repeat.
Hi Gents. I've recently spent time with Sarah from Diva. She's Brazilian, and it was a GREAT time. She was very passionate and did everything I liked with enthusiasm. Excellent DFK, wet BJ, passionate ball-licking and rimming, accepted fingering gladly. I had the time of my life. I don't think she does anal, but I didn't even ask since I'm not so into it anyway. Only down-side was that her boobs are fake. They're nice, but it's not my preference. Her English isn't great, but she spoke enough to get by and we used an app for the rest.
Overall, Sarah was top shelf all the way. More expensive rates than some other Diva girls, but Brazilians aren't as easy to find with Diva and she doesn't up-charge for extras that many of the other girls add charges for. I thought she was worth it, and I expect to repeat.I love it when folks on here review Diva girls! While the review page on the Diva web page has a wealth of information, I feel that the details shared in this forum are more independent and, therefore, trustworthy.
Sarah seems like a new girl and looks like a good time. And, yes, I'm not a fan of fake boobs. I fucked Noleta before she got breast implants, and, based on her new pictures they were a step backward for her. Sarah is also out of the price I'm willing to pay for a Diva girl, but, after I get a chance to fuck through the 150 and 200 level girls, I may give her a try! It's especially enticing to try a girl who will give rimming service since that seems to be rare.
Sarah is also out of the price I'm willing to pay for a Diva girl, but, after I get a chance to fuck through the 150 and 200 level girls, I may give her a try! If you become a Diva member, a few of the girls charging 200/ hour or more give a discount. Sarah's rate is reduced by 50 GBP for an hour, which makes a her a little more accessible. You can ask the agency for a membership if you've booked 5+ times, and they ask for your email address, then you can log into the members area with that email address and see the girls' discounted offers. I don't think any of the 150 GBP / hour girls offer a discount for members, but some of the higher-rate girls do.
Steve 9696
11-03-20, 22:51
I love it when folks on here review Diva girls! While the review page on the Diva web page has a wealth of information, I feel that the details shared in this forum are more independent and, therefore, trustworthy.
Sarah seems like a new girl and looks like a good time. And, yes, I'm not a fan of fake boobs. I fucked Noleta before she got breast implants, and, based on her new pictures they were a step backward for her. Sarah is also out of the price I'm willing to pay for a Diva girl, but, after I get a chance to fuck through the 150 and 200 level girls, I may give her a try! It's especially enticing to try a girl who will give rimming service since that seems to be rare.Don't forget to try Olina. If you like Asian girls, Olina offers some amazing girls and CIM and rimming and often anal for 150 £ all in. Anna is a wildcat. Heard others are good too.
Don't forget to try Olina. If you like Asian girls, Olina offers some amazing girls and CIM and rimming and often anal for 150 all in. Anna is a wildcat. Heard others are good too.Yep, Anna from Olina is on my list! I almost booked her the last time I was in London, but I was at full capacity (I think it was five girls over a four day period). I'm confident I'll fuck Anna some day.
Hello guys,
I have been a silent members for years (since 2008) and have been in touch with many ISG's members via PM's and did meet few in different countries.
Didn't write many reviews, as my regulars are reviewed many times. In UK, Manchester is my favorite place for Monger. Its Value for money!
Have been trying to get a job in Manchester, or in Colombia! No need to say why!
Compelled to write this review which was more over reported by a friend. It all begins with my friend hitting a girl in TG (PM me for the profile link) am sure there will be other profiles as well, as this seems to be much of a organized thing!
Moved to WhatsApp conversation and was invited for a party! She even came to pick him up at the tube station!
Then she coverys "pay £250 to have fun with her for an Hour" as he seen the girl in real, he wanted to leave!!
Was offered £150/- for two girls, 30 minutes -- delighted!
He was provided everything (BJ,69) No kissing! And couldn't fuck! Yes, two naked girls playing around, but couldn't fuck in 30 minutes (not sure about the exact time).
The dangerous part is! He was offered lines (coke! They where trying to get him high / or knocked out. To make the lines, they asked his bank card!
He was alert after the first line went in, as they offered drinks with coke mixed, and the next line in another few minutes. So he got all obvious reasons to be suspicious about!
Finally, they said time is up, you have to pay more to stay! He just packed and left, seems they where expecting him to pay more (he is supposed to be high).
The first thing he did, once he was out of that door is to call the bank and block the card, obviously.
If I go. I won't take a bank card or any valuable to such a place. And I don't mind getting high, having some fun.
Be aware of such party's or profiles in TG or any online portals, seems they are in the rise and too many people are now hooked to the online!
An interesting fact, one of my favourate is Nina a Brazilian used to be 30 minutes £ 150 and 60 minutes £250, once she has been back from her vacation this week, its now £250 and £500.
I am not the one who picks the VIP's! I just like her. I usually get along with the 30 minutes £60 -£100, or 60 minutes £120 - £150.
Diva -- my favorites are Electra, Fortune, Jackline.
I can also see many pro's have increased their rates, and more over offering online plays!! This is a dangerous turn!
Morons! Porn is free! Free! Feee! Please use your brains! Just check your online expenditure for a month. And then you will understand how many girls you could have splet with! Instead of using your hands!
What else can I say.
I am planning to put few line about what I have seen / change in Escorts, massage places and the catch-up arena!
Enjoy. Stay healthy and safe.
Diva -- my favorites are Electra, Fortune, Jackline.
Honestly, I didn't understand much of what you said in your post, but it would be great if you posted detailed reviews of Electra, Fortune, and Jackline (in addition to other Diva girls you've tried). I've fucked Fortune so I can understand why she's one of your favorites, but it would be nice to read about your experience with her. I've seen consistently good reviews of Electra on the Diva reviews page, but I don't think I've seen many reviews of Jackline. So, your reviews of your Diva girl experiences would add useful unbiased information to this forum.
"Honestly, I didn't understand much of what you said in your post" that is real honesty!
And sure I will write the review soon.
Honestly, I didn't understand much of what you said in your post, but it would be great if you posted detailed reviews of Electra, Fortune, and Jackline (in addition to other Diva girls you've tried). I've fucked Fortune so I can understand why she's one of your favorites, but it would be nice to read about your experience with her. I've seen consistently good reviews of Electra on the Diva reviews page, but I don't think I've seen many reviews of Jackline. So, your reviews of your Diva girl experiences would add useful unbiased information to this forum.
Very good info guys.
Reading these posts are literally killing me. As each post beckons me to hop on a plane and explore the beauties of the world. Then covid readily reminds me with a kick in the nuts that I, like many, are f $ck%the and stuck in the US. Smh.
I usually go for outcall. Recently, I've started to meet them at the bar. It's better to weed out bait / switch and I find the girl to be a bit more relaxed with a quick drink first.
I'm actually thinking to mix it up a bit more now on escort nights (no SA girl scheduled). Incall right before dinner. Then grab dinner and drinks, shower, outcall to end the night.
What are you guys doing / favor? Incall or outcall.
Do you have any expectations when you incall (nice apt, etc)?
The prices that I see look more like incall prices and that's what I've assumed thus far.
Stay safe.
Steve 9696
11-06-20, 03:15
Very good info guys.
Reading these posts are literally killing me. As each post beckons me to hop on a plane and explore the beauties of the world. Then covid readily reminds me with a kick in the nuts that I, like many, are f $ck%the and stuck in the US. Smh.
I usually go for outcall. Recently, I've started to meet them at the bar. It's better to weed out bait / switch and I find the girl to be a bit more relaxed with a quick drink first.
I'm actually thinking to mix it up a bit more now on escort nights (no SA girl scheduled). Incall right before dinner. Then grab dinner and drinks, shower, outcall to end the night.
What are you guys doing / favor? Incall or outcall.
Do you have any expectations when you incall (nice apt, etc)?
The prices that I see look more like incall prices and that's what I've assumed thus far.
Stay safe.Normally outcall is good. But London is unique. I highly recommend incall with Diva. The key here is you are IN THE GIRLS ROOM. It's not like incall in the US where a girl gets a hotel room and sees guys one after the other. It's her room. This is VERY sexy.
They can vary a lot. Most are tidy but a bit run down and small in nice enough parts of town. Diciest was Fortunes original place. A bit dumpy. Meltys place was beautiful. Who the fuck doesn't like being in Meltys room and seeing her red fuck me heels in her closet and asking her to put them on. Kendall and Noleta were in the same building last time I was there. Super nice with bar and Starbucks on the lower courtyard area. (And walkable from Paddington).
Anyhow point is it can vary but it's always awesome. Couldn't pay me to do outcall in London. Love e incall just too much. My recommended plan is:
Girl at 10 am.
Lunch.
Girl at 3 PM.
Dinner.
Girl at 8 pm.
I've done this several times and can't recommend it highly enough. A wise man once said "anything worth doing is worth overdoing!" LOL.
Girl at 10 am.
Lunch.
Girl at 3 PM.
Dinner.
Girl at 8 pm.
As usual, I agree with Steve 9696. I do have a question. I know from empiracal mongering experience that I can fuck a girl around lunch time (2 pops) and fuck another girls at around dinner time (2 pops). All of this without any performance enhancing pills.
I've never fucked three girls in the same day as you described, but I think I could do it with the right pill.
So, what's your process here? Is all of this using pills? I think we're around the same age so I really value your wisdom here.
Also, do you have a maximum number of girls in one day? I hope to go to an FKK one day, and I think I can probably fuck 5 girls in a 4-6 hour time frame with pill assistance. That's one pop per girl. But, I don't think I can do more than that.
Steve 9696
11-06-20, 18:53
As usual, I agree with Steve 9696. I do have a question. I know from empiracal mongering experience that I can fuck a girl around lunch time (2 pops) and fuck another girls at around dinner time (2 pops). All of this without any performance enhancing pills.
I've never fucked three girls in the same day as you described, but I think I could do it with the right pill.
So, what's your process here? Is all of this using pills? I think we're around the same age so I really value your wisdom here.
Also, do you have a maximum number of girls in one day? I hope to go to an FKK one day, and I think I can probably fuck 5 girls in a 4-6 hour time frame with pill assistance. That's one pop per girl. But, I don't think I can do more than that.Yeah these days I need a little help. I use the generic viagra I got from Lemonaid. They have a great online service with video chat with real doctor. Discrete. Easy. Plus it comes in little 20 MG pills so you can tweak dosage. 50 and 100 are standard viagra dosage. I usually do 40 but might add a booster of another 20 for late night. This works really well.
With viagra you get super hard which makes it feel all that much better. And I never get hard except when excited so it's not like you are a walking boner. Only thing is since it lets you fuck more you may be hard to cum with later girls. But most pros are pretty magical and get it done.
The three-a-day London is great. I might do two pops with first girl of the week. Usually one thereafter. In FKK two years ago I managed 5 girls over 8 hours but I am more a three a day guy now. Slacker! LOL.
50 and 100 are standard viagra dosage. I usually do 40 but might add a booster of another 20 for late night. This works really well.Awesome, thanks! I think with Viagra, not cumming for a few days beforehand, and access to gorgeous ladies (for example, Melty, Fortune, Noleta, etc.), I can fuck 4 girls in a day. I think this is especially true since I've also been improving my nutrition and fitness during the pandemic. I look forward to testing this theory out some day, but I think it would basically involve fucking a girl after breakfast, a late lunch, dinner, and also right before going to sleep.
However, I've been thinking about the long game. So, I'm now in my late 40's, and I want to fuck beautiful women well into my 70's (and maybe 80's). This may be a question for the seasoned mongers among us, but I wonder how this plays out? Assuming access to something like viagra and "fucking" meaning one pop, is it:
* 40's: Can fuck 4 girls in one day.
* 50's: Can fuck 3 girls in one day.
* 60's: Can fuck 2 girls in one day.
* 70's: Can fuck 1 girl in one day.
* 80's: Can fuck half a girl in one day?
Maybe I can trust the magic of the pros to make age a non-issue letting me still fuck 4 girls in one day if they are stunners!
Marelobo Mex
11-07-20, 01:39
As usual, I agree with Steve 9696.
Also, do you have a maximum number of girls in one day? I hope to go to an FKK one day, and I think I can probably fuck 5 girls in a 4-6 hour time frame. I also agree Diva Incall is well worth doing.
I can almost always do 2 pops a day. Getting a 3rd pop only happens for me about 25% of the time.
However there is no maximum number of girls. Take as many as you want, as many as you can afford. For me the time to monger is limited, and I will maximize that time.
The last time I was in London for a day I booked 4 girls. The time before that I booked 5 girls. Each time I only popped with three of them. For the ones I didn't pop with. I got to spend an hour with a hot naked girl. I was fucking her, fingering her, sucking on her tits, squeezing her ass, licking her face, her armpits, her stomach. What better way to spend some time.
Diva makes it easy because you can schedule them out. Sex for an hour, then spend an hour walking from one girls apartment to the next, then sex for another hour. It is pretty much a perfect day.
As for FKK I only once took 5 girls on the same day. I am very picky, and once I have a hot girl I want a hotter girl for the next session. I also have a specific type. She should be young, beautiful, not have any children, not have any silicone, be spinner thin with firm perky small tits, firm flat stomach, no tattoos and no piercings. Most nights I only found 1 or 2 girls that met this criteria. Perhaps there were other girls there, but I did not find them, or they were in rooms with other guys, or not available when I was available.
MM.
AlwaysOn2020
11-07-20, 15:53
I also agree Diva Incall is well worth doing.
.... She should be young, beautiful, not have any children, not have any silicone, be spinner thin with firm perky small tits, firm flat stomach, no tattoos and no piercings. Most nights I only found 1 or 2 girls that met this criteria. Perhaps there were other girls there, but I did not find them, or they were in rooms with other guys, or not available when I was available....
MM.Man that's exactly my type as well. Sounds like Irada to me. I think she mentioned she's 24, don't recall. Only gripe I have is that I wish I'd met her sooner, when she was younger and just moved to London maybe. Sigh!
Anyway, the other good experience I had was Roberta at Babylon. She's 22. Overall the experience was good even though she's got a few Tattoos which really isn't my thing. And after the experience, when I was back to my senses and my the* wasn't doing the thinking, realized Babylon is slightly more expensive than some of the other agencies. Great service but the rates could be 50-100 off compared to the others. Can add up quickly if you are someone who indulges often. And most of them have a similar a line-up anyways.
Shall post the Roberta review shortly. I'd rate her 7.5-8/10.
Marelobo Mex
11-08-20, 06:16
Man that's exactly my type as well. Typically I am trying to replicate the experience I had when I was at University. My preference is for girls age 18 - 22.
MM.
Awesome, thanks! I think with Viagra, not cumming for a few days beforehand, and access to gorgeous ladies (for example, Melty, Fortune, Noleta, etc.), I can fuck 4 girls in a day. I think this is especially true since I've also been improving my nutrition and fitness during the pandemic. I look forward to testing this theory out some day, but I think it would basically involve fucking a girl after breakfast, a late lunch, dinner, and also right before going to sleep.
However, I've been thinking about the long game. So, I'm now in my late 40's, and I want to fuck beautiful women well into my 70's (and maybe 80's). This may be a question for the seasoned mongers among us, but I wonder how this plays out? Assuming access to something like viagra and "fucking" meaning one pop, is it:
* 40's: Can fuck 4 girls in one day.
* 50's: Can fuck 3 girls in one day.
* 60's: Can fuck 2 girls in one day.
* 70's: Can fuck 1 girl in one day.
* 80's: Can fuck half a girl in one day?
Maybe I can trust the magic of the pros to make age a non-issue letting me still fuck 4 girls in one day if they are stunners!Can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of feel sorry for you young guns. Five girls in one day sounds great as a boast -- but it also means no satisfaction. Finish one, on to the next. It's chasing a feeling you can't seem to reach -- the blissful feeling of not having to do this again for a long, long while.
I don't know what I'm physically capable of, with the right cocktail brew of pharmaceuticals and the right lineup. But in my mid-60's I find a satisfaction that I wish I could have felt in my twenties. It would have saved a lot of time and expense, and probably increased my quality of life. One amazing encounter, every two or three days, is all this old soul needs to completely satisfy. Perhaps this mirrors my overall approach to life -- in my 20's and 30's I was eager to accumulate, never satisfied, more money, more control, more of everything. In my 40's I freaked out that I wasn't keeping up with my early rate of growth, and my personal life wasn't giving me satisfaction so I turned on the juice even more. If I had been able early on to just savor what I was doing at the moment, like some of those Buddhist monks, actually taste the food as it's going into your mouth, don't just shovel it all in and empty your plate and order seconds.
Keep up your pace if you wish, and push for more if you must, but be aware that in many ways the aging body and the experienced mind eventually gives you a very different perspective on life. Sometimes it makes you want to re-evaluate your past actions, wish you'd done things differently; hopefully it just gives you solace and comfort as you reach a stage where there's not a whole lot you have to prove to yourself or anybody else.
Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.
Steve 9696
11-08-20, 23:10
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of feel sorry for you young guns. Five girls in one day sounds great as a boast -- but it also means no satisfaction. Finish one, on to the next. It's chasing a feeling you can't seem to reach -- the blissful feeling of not having to do this again for a long, long while.
I don't know what I'm physically capable of, with the right cocktail brew of pharmaceuticals and the right lineup. But in my mid-60's I find a satisfaction that I wish I could have felt in my twenties. It would have saved a lot of time and expense, and probably increased my quality of life. One amazing encounter, every two or three days, is all this old soul needs to completely satisfy. Perhaps this mirrors my overall approach to life -- in my 20's and 30's I was eager to accumulate, never satisfied, more money, more control, more of everything. In my 40's I freaked out that I wasn't keeping up with my early rate of growth, and my personal life wasn't giving me satisfaction so I turned on the juice even more. If I had been able early on to just savor what I was doing at the moment, like some of those Buddhist monks, actually taste the food as it's going into your mouth, don't just shovel it all in and empty your plate and order seconds.
Keep up your pace if you wish, and push for more if you must, but be aware that in many ways the aging body and the experienced mind eventually gives you a very different perspective on life. Sometimes it makes you want to re-evaluate your past actions, wish you'd done things differently; hopefully it just gives you solace and comfort as you reach a stage where there's not a whole lot you have to prove to yourself or anybody else.
Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.I think you are right about most of this. But doing 5 girls isn't just boastful — it can be a ton of fun. Really FKK is the only way to do this. And FKK is about so much more than fucking. It's an experience. An awesome girl buffet. Completely worth overdoing.
That said I get your overall point. Sex with the right girl can be completely satisfying. Just recently (see my post in the Seeking Arrangements thread) my weekend with Alexa totally proved this. Yes we had solid sex Friday. But Saturday was beyond all expectations. Sex at 5. Dinner. 2 plus bottles of wine. Walk on the beach. Smoke cigars. Sex on the balcony at midnight.
On Sunday morning with a full day still ahead I thought "I am fully and completely satisfied — I could fly home right now totally happy. " That is true date satisfaction.
Marelobo Mex
11-09-20, 02:33
Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.Rako, peace, I am happy for you that you are satisfied having 1 girl every three days.
We are not all satisfied the same way. Some of us enjoy having multiple girls on a day, and that doesn't mean we don't savor and cherish every minute of the experience we are with those girls.
Also in your note it is implied that we have the choice to participate every 3 days and that is simply not the case. In the month of February I could only participate 1 day. In the month of January I could only participate 2 days. In the months of March until today I couldn't participate any days. Instead I choose to maximize the experiences I could have so that I am still savoring them now.
I was also making the point that if you see a girl that you really like / want, she has good reviews and seems like she could be a fantasy girl for you. Go and book her no matter how many others you have already booked, because if it will a year or longer before you return London, there is a good chance she will no longer be working and you missed your opportunity to be with her. I can think of a few girls I didn't sample and they got away, I can also think of few girls I sampled even though I was already spent, and I am really happy I had that time with them.
MM.
...............Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.I am in my sixties too but aware that my twenties self was much different from my present self. I am satisfied with the sex I'm having now but would have been totally unhappy with that quantity back in my 20's.
I try to have both meaningful sexual experiences with the civilians in my life and multiple fuckfests with the hottest girls I can get to. I don't think one is better than the other. But, I enjoy aspects of both.
The girls in my civilian life take a lot of time and effort to bag. So, when we get to fucking, the experience is emotional and mental as well as physical.
The slim sexy barely-out-of-their-teens girls that I find on sites like Diva are purely for sexual release. Yes, I often have interesting chats with them between pops while I'm waiting for my refactory period to subside. But, the goal is always to feel myself exploding in the sexiest girls I can find after an amazing sexual experience. So, yes, a great day in London would be fucking girls throughout the day, perhaps a threesome here and there, and the satisfaction of traveling around London between orgasms.
Maybe when I get into my 60's, I'll find fucking multiple stunning girls less compelling and be satisfied with just meaningful sex with one or two ladies. However, while I can, I will do everything I can to find and tap the best pussy around the world.
I try to have both meaningful sexual experiences with the civilians in my life and multiple fuckfests with the hottest girls I can get to. I don't think one is better than the other. But, I enjoy aspects of both.
The girls in my civilian life take a lot of time and effort to bag. So, when we get to fucking, the experience is emotional and mental as well as physical.
The slim sexy barely-out-of-their-teens girls that I find on sites like Diva are purely for sexual release. Yes, I often have interesting chats with them between pops while I'm waiting for my refactory period to subside. But, the goal is always to feel myself exploding in the sexiest girls I can find after an amazing sexual experience. So, yes, a great day in London would be fucking girls throughout the day, perhaps a threesome here and there, and the satisfaction of traveling around London between orgasms.
Maybe when I get into my 60's, I'll find fucking multiple stunning girls less compelling and be satisfied with just meaningful sex with one or two ladies. However, while I can, I will do everything I can to find and tap the best pussy around the world.There's nothing wrong with following your desires, and fulfilling those urges as they arise.
I merely stated that I'm glad it doesn't take five girls a day for me to find satisfaction. Or perhaps leave me winded, wishing I had enough breath and fluids for a sixth.
And I do believe you can get in a groove where there may be a physical refractory period but not a mental one, that as soon as one conquest is finished you're already thinking about the next. And you might want to be careful about that.
Put it in a different context. Let's say you go to a fine restaurant, have a lavish meal, and as soon as you leave you start thinking about another restaurant. Or you finish a whole box of cookies, and feel compelled to crack open another, and another. It's expensive, it's not always good for your health, and again, you're somehow not capturing the reason for the eating in the first place -- to feel comfortably sated. Perhaps it's a substitution for something else -- food in place of love, food to deal with anxiety, food to fill boredom. But if you don't savor it, if it doesn't fulfill you.
But sure, if you only get so many opportunities to binge on a whole all-you-can-eat smorgasbord, knock yourself out and make some memories. I just wouldn't do it on a regular basis. And I'm glad I don't need to these days. It makes life easier.
Steve 9696
11-10-20, 12:10
I think you guys have hit right on it and the food analogy is a good one. If I can have a nice meal every week I may well be perfectly satisfied. But if my opportunity to dine well comes only every other month and there is a gorgeous buffet spread before me I am going to gorge myself at that buffet till I can eat no more.
And the girl-buffet in London and FKK and Brazil and Thailand etc. is like a mile long buffet of filet mignon, sushi, and cake to the hungry traveler. Give me a bottle of wine and damage will be done!
AlwaysOn2020
11-12-20, 06:32
Typically I am trying to replicate the experience I had when I was at University. My preference is for girls age 18 - 22.
MM.18-22, slim, perky, no tattoos. Hallelujah!
Those are definitely the best sessions / nights.
Tough to find in the US though. Unfortunate.
Marelobo Mex
11-13-20, 01:54
I think the food analogy is a good one. I have read the food analogy multiple times and I don't get, it doesn't seem to apply for me.
I don't consume pleasure with girls like food. They are both physical experiences, but they are experienced in totally different ways.
I never have the desire to sit and eat 3 dinners. I suppose it is possible to force myself to consume 2 dinners or 3 dinners worth of food. I would not find that pleasurable. Assuming I manage to force feed myself 3 dinners worth of food, I would be feeling ill after that. I am confident if a person came by and put a forth delicious dinner on the table, I would find it revolting and may get physically sick at the thought of eating it.
In contrast I can easily enjoy 3 girls, either at the same time, or one after another. I would find the more girls the more pleasure in the experience. I don't have to force myself to be with three girls, but I willingly seek out the experience. After enjoying three girls I don't feel ill, but in fact elated and overjoyed at the experience. I am frequently in a haze of happiness that last for 24 - 48 hours after the experience. Then suppose I am sitting in a club or just on the street corner and another hot young spinner presents herself and starts flirting with me. Well I want her also, and I would be thrilled to get forth experience in.
While I am selective and have high standards of what I am seeking as long as the girls can meet my fantasy criteria, I would gladly take one after another after another. I suppose there is some physical limit based on time and sleep, but I have always run out of girls before reaching that limit.
MM.
I am frequently in a haze of happiness that last for 24 - 48 hours after the experience.
MM.That's all I'm talking about. Finding that haze of happiness. Just saying if you're the kind of person who never feels sated after three, four, five orgasms in a day, you may be chasing an unattainable goal with the methods at your disposal.
Sure, it's possible that after a great sexual experience I see a cutie and start to think hmm, maybe. Go again? But that's a far cry from the power-user who goes from girl to girl to girl seeking. What? What does the fifth offer that the first four didn't? And at what point do you say y'know, I may have a problem here.
I've read about a not uncommon Tinder mindset, you haven't even left a girl's apartment, you're laying on the bed with her, swiping right looking for the next encounter. And that just doesn't sound real good to me.
Yes, we're talking extremes. I agree if you get to visit an FKK once a year, knock yourself out. On the other side, I don't say have sex once a year and really savor it. Happiness lies somewhere in the middle.
And I'm personally glad it doesn't take me five girls in a five hour period to feel sated.
I have read the food analogy multiple times and I don't get, it doesn't seem to apply for me.
I don't consume pleasure with girls like food. They are both physical experiences, but they are experienced in totally different ways.
.............I agree. My desire for food has never varied. Three meals a day at age 20 and three meals a day 46 years later. However I remember when I was 20 years old I used to go to my girlfriend's place have sex with her and when I got home an hour later I would masturbate. There were days back then when I could have sex eight times a day. The desire was greater then than now.
I agree. My desire for food has never varied. Three meals a day at age 20 and three meals a day 46 years later. However I remember when I was 20 years old I used to go to my girlfriend's place have sex with her and when I got home an hour later I would masturbate. There were days back then when I could have sex eight times a day. The desire was greater then than now.I think that's where I wanted this conversation to go, Turgid. How does mongering change as you go towards your 60's? I'm about 20 years behind you, and I'd like to get a sense of the road ahead.
For example, if you went to an FKK club in Germany with stunning options, how many would you fuck? I'm in my 40's, and I would try to go for several. However, in your 60's, is it just one?
Also, do orgasms change in your 60's? I'm finding that I can last longer in bed, and my orgasms last longer, too.
Any other thoughts you can share about mongering in your 60's would be greatly appreciated!
ExpatLover
11-16-20, 20:11
I think that's where I wanted this conversation to go, Turgid. How does mongering change as you go towards your 60's? I'm about 20 years behind you, and I'd like to get a sense of the road ahead.
For example, if you went to an FKK club in Germany with stunning options, how many would you fuck? I'm in my 40's, and I would try to go for several. However, in your 60's, is it just one?
Also, do orgasms change in your 60's? I'm finding that I can last longer in bed, and my orgasms last longer, too.
Any other thoughts you can share about mongering in your 60's would be greatly appreciated!I am 60+, and I have 0 health issue, can have 3 times sex per day without any viagra. But I fucked 1000+ girls in my life and in the last years I started to get bored, pussy remains pussy. Before the age of 45 I never paid for a woman, after that for commodity reasons I mongered a lot but it is no more satisfying for me or I need to really find a top young natural beauty. In the last 3 years fortunately I met no pro girls and had great time. After so many sex, sex is always the same thing now I enjoy my free time by doing more sport, buying and restoring some classic cars. My strong blocking point for the moment is really to pay for sex, to pay for fake, to pay for illusion.
I am 60+, and I have 0 health issue, can have 3 times sex per day without any viagra. But I fucked 1000+ girls in my life and in the last years I started to get bored, pussy remains pussy. Before the age of 45 I never paid for a woman, after that for commodity reasons I mongered a lot but it is no more satisfying for me or I need to really find a top young natural beauty. In the last 3 years fortunately I met no pro girls and had great time. After so many sex, sex is always the same thing now I enjoy my free time by doing more sport, buying and restoring some classic cars. My strong blocking point for the moment is really to pay for sex, to pay for fake, to pay for illusion.That's good news, ExpatLover! This gives me hope that the next 20 years of mongering can be fruitful. If I can cum 3 times per day without viagra in my 60's like you do, then I can work with that. Whether that's 3 time with the same girl or 3 different girls, then I can find satisfaction in that. Given that I have access to viagra today, I assume that I will have viagra when I'm in my 60's so that's an option to take the experience up a notch or two when needed.
Now, my one remaining concern is how the women will react to me. I'm in my 40's, but I've been told that I look like I'm in my 30's. I hope to look good in my 60's and that the girls don't mind someone the age of their grandfathers slam-fucking them. I would guess that they won't care as long as my money is in order!
I also take your point that, after fucking so many girls, sex offers little new adventure. That seems to have freed your mind to explore other interests and things that are new and exciting to me. For me, a fresh, young, and tight spinner with a tight body and willingness to please will be new and exciting for many years to come. I'll save the higher pursuits for when I'm closer to 70!
I think that's where I wanted this conversation to go, Turgid. How does mongering change as you go towards your 60's? I'm about 20 years behind you, and I'd like to get a sense of the road ahead.
For example, if you went to an FKK club in Germany with stunning options, how many would you fuck? I'm in my 40's, and I would try to go for several. However, in your 60's, is it just one?
Also, do orgasms change in your 60's? I'm finding that I can last longer in bed, and my orgasms last longer, too.
Any other thoughts you can share about mongering in your 60's would be greatly appreciated!When I was in my 30's and 40's I used to dread the prospect of being in my 60's which I am now. However I believe that sex in different periods of ones life would not be the same for every person. For example, when I was in my forties I was not as wealthy as I am now and my sexual activity was accordingly restricted. I had one or two non pros and visited working girls sparingly. I had less variety of sexual partners than I do now. In those days and before sex was much more exciting for me than it is now and accordingly I would say generally more enjoyable. That does not mean to say that the orgasm was more intense then, it was not, it was about the same and also I generally bang girls of about the same quality now as I did back then so it was equal in that respect also. What was different was the mindset. Back then I was much more hyped up before going to have sex than I am now. Perhaps what can bring me back to the mentality I had back then would be to have longer periods between sessions like a week or so. That should get the adrenalin flowing stronger before the next encounter.
ExpatLover
11-17-20, 18:31
That's good news, ExpatLover! This gives me hope that the next 20 years of mongering can be fruitful. If I can cum 3 times per day without viagra in my 60's like you do, then I can work with that. Whether that's 3 time with the same girl or 3 different girls, then I can find satisfaction in that. Given that I have access to viagra today, I assume that I will have viagra when I'm in my 60's so that's an option to take the experience up a notch or two when needed.
Now, my one remaining concern is how the women will react to me. I'm in my 40's, but I've been told that I look like I'm in my 30's. I hope to look good in my 60's and that the girls don't mind someone the age of their grandfathers slam-fucking them. I would guess that they won't care as long as my money is in order!
I also take your point that, after fucking so many girls, sex offers little new adventure. That seems to have freed your mind to explore other interests and things that are new and exciting to me. For me, a fresh, young, and tight spinner with a tight body and willingness to please will be new and exciting for many years to come. I'll save the higher pursuits for when I'm closer to 70!For the girls most important point you pay them, second you are clean which means not smelling, all the rest they don t care they are not willing to marry you. Luckily I am 181, athletic shape 82 kilos, white christian, no smoking and never any girl refused to go with me in the room, sometimes the escorts ask you to send a picture of you before accepting to meet you, also I never got a no. You also have girls who will only go with man +40 to keep the young guy for the private life, everything is possible.
GuyBrusg1957
11-22-20, 01:26
For those who have been to Germany FKKs, Amsterdam, Zurich Clubs, Canada. Montreal and Toronto and Vienna Clubs. How would you rank these? Where does it fit into Australia? Spain?
The underlying theme seems to be. Granted, this is probably from personal taste.
Zurich > Vienna > London > Toronto / Montreal > Germany FKKs > Amsterdam.
Steve 9696
11-22-20, 03:29
For those who have been to Germany FKKs, Amsterdam, Zurich Clubs, Canada. Montreal and Toronto and Vienna Clubs. How would you rank these? Where does it fit into Australia? Spain?
The underlying theme seems to be. Granted, this is probably from personal taste.
Zurich > Vienna > London > Toronto / Montreal > Germany FKKs > Amsterdam.Well Australia sucks donkey dong. Let's say that up front. Of the others I have least experience in Canada. My personal order goes like this (with rationale for placement).
Brazil (beautiful passionate girls. Nightclub format).
London (amazing incall with Romanians; not Hardened like FKK girls).
German FKK (value And club experience).
Thailand (off the hook girl bonanza).
Moscow (fun stripclub format but with fucking).
Tokyo (outcall at love hotel).
Zurich (like Germany but more expensive).
China (used to be awesome. Tough now).
GuyBrusg1957
11-22-20, 03:58
Well Australia sucks donkey dong. Let's say that up front. Of the others I have least experience in Canada. My personal order goes like this (with rationale for placement).
Brazil (beautiful passionate girls. Nightclub format).
London (amazing incall with Romanians; not Hardened like FKK girls).
German FKK (value And club experience).
Thailand (off the hook girl bonanza).
Moscow (fun stripclub format but with fucking).
Tokyo (outcall at love hotel).
Zurich (like Germany but more expensive).
China (used to be awesome. Tough now).Very interesting, thanks for the info.
What do you make of Spain. Barcelona and Madrid? Vienna?
I will add Colombia after Brazil, I never been to Brazil but had only heard good things as if today! Been to Colombia and I live in London, hence I rank Colombia Above London.
Well Australia sucks donkey dong. Let's say that up front. Of the others I have least experience in Canada. My personal order goes like this (with rationale for placement).
Brazil (beautiful passionate girls. Nightclub format).
London (amazing incall with Romanians; not Hardened like FKK girls).
German FKK (value And club experience).
Thailand (off the hook girl bonanza).
Moscow (fun stripclub format but with fucking).
Tokyo (outcall at love hotel).
Zurich (like Germany but more expensive).
China (used to be awesome. Tough now).
For those who have been to Germany FKKs, Amsterdam, Zurich Clubs, Canada. Montreal and Toronto and Vienna Clubs. How would you rank these? Where does it fit into Australia? Spain?
The underlying theme seems to be. Granted, this is probably from personal taste.
Zurich > Vienna > London > Toronto / Montreal > Germany FKKs > Amsterdam.My personal ranking is as follows, based on the top places I have been to monger (list not exhaustive):
1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).
2. German FKKs.
3. Spain.
4. Thailand.
4. Zurich (expensive).
5. Vienna.
6. Costa Rica.
6. Colombia.
7. Dubai (expensive).
8, Panama.
9. Argentina.
10. Amsterdam.
11. The Philippines.
12. Tijuana.
Now, a few clarifying notes about this listing. First, if you like Asian girls (I'm not a big fan), then Thailand is number 1, and The Philippines is much, much higher. Probably even number two if Asian girls are you thing. Second, I would have Zurich in the number 3 spot if it wasn't so expensive. The other thing is the reason why I have Tijuana dead last is that, compared to the other destinations noted, Tijuana simply just isn't a very interesting place to go to. Yeah, there are a few things to see, but in my opinion it's not a world-class mongering destination on the order of the more highly-ranked places. Otherwise, there are some really hot Mexicanas who know how to suck and fuck.
My personal ranking is as follows, based on the top places I have been to monger (list not exhaustive):
1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).
2. German FKKs...Geez! What happened? Let me do that list over again with the correct numbering.
1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).
2. Germany (FKKs).
3. Spain.
4. Thailand.
5. Switzerland (Expensive).
6. Austria.
7. Costa Rica.
8. Colombia.
9. Dubai (Expensive).
10. Panama.
11. Argentina.
12. Amsterdam.
13. The Philippines.
14. Mexico (Tijuana).
Geez! What happened? Let me do that list over again with the correct numbering.
1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).
2. Germany (FKKs).
3. Spain.
4. Thailand.
5. Switzerland (Expensive).
6. Austria.
7. Costa Rica.
8. Colombia.
9. Dubai (Expensive).
10. Panama.
11. Argentina.
12. Amsterdam.
13. The Philippines.
14. Mexico (Tijuana).My rankings for some of the places would be different but can understand your grading with the exception that I would definitely rate Colombia over Costa Rica for mongering. In terms of the looks of the ladies perhaps they're similar but regarding the price and sheer quantity Colombia is overwhelmingly my preference.
My rankings for some of the places would be different but can understand your grading with the exception that I would definitely rate Colombia over Costa Rica for mongering. In terms of the looks of the ladies perhaps they're similar but regarding the price and sheer quantity Colombia is overwhelmingly my preference.Well, first of all, Costa Rica is virtually nothing but Colombianas to begin with. And second, I did think hard about which was better, and I went with Costa Rica just because I personally had better overall "sexual moments" there, with virtually all of them being with Colombian women. Costa Rica is where I discovered the Colombiana. Of course, that was a long time ago. Things have changed enough that if I were to visit each country again, I just might put Colombia ahead. But until then, I must go with what I experienced directly.
Geez! What happened? Let me do that list over again with the correct numbering.
1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).
2. Germany (FKKs).
3. Spain.
4. Thailand.
5. Switzerland (Expensive).
6. Austria.
7. Costa Rica.
8. Colombia.
9. Dubai (Expensive).
10. Panama.
11. Argentina.
12. Amsterdam.
13. The Philippines.
14. Mexico (Tijuana).Hey my friend! And you had the temerity to call me a lucky ba*tard for having options in Spain at the moment! I thought I'd mongered far and wide yet this was only your list of best. Maybe you mongered elsewhere that did not make this impressive list. I was somewhat staggered to see Argentina not even make the top 10. Interested to know why you think a country blessed with so many stunning girls, and close to your number one choice, comes so low? Ditto Panama.
For good measure, my list would be:
1. Germany (FKKs).
2. Spain. Love the CDS and Madrid.
3. Manchester in the UK but London wouldn't make my top 50 - I hate bait and switch.
4. Cambodia.
5. Switzerland. Loved Globe.
6. Portugal. Great pick ups in bar scene in Vilamoura.
7. Dubai. Not sure where you went but I found New York very reasonably priced and Hyatt great but as you say expensive.
8. Thailand.
9. Singapore.
10. Australia. Well - Sydney.
I'm gutted not to have ever been to S America and don't doubt for a moment it would cause a re-write of my list.
Enjoy the reminiscing!
Hey my friend! And you had the temerity to call me a lucky ba*tard for having options in Spain at the moment! I thought I'd mongered far and wide yet this was only your list of best. Maybe you mongered elsewhere that did not make this impressive list. I was somewhat staggered to see Argentina not even make the top 10. Interested to know why you think a country blessed with so many stunning girls, and close to your number one choice, comes so low? Ditto Panama.Here are a few more, in alphabetical order, that I did not include or attempt to rank. Of these, I would love to try Morocco again! I really liked what I saw, and for a Muslim country the place was quite liberal (free flowing alcohol and attractive, "forward" prostitutes interested in making your acquaintance).
1. Curacao.
2. Czech Republic.
3. Morocco.
4. Paraguay.
5. Poland.
My first trips to Argentina and Panama were really good. Enough to get me to go back. But the follow-up trips just weren't as exciting. In Argentina, a lot of clubs have closed, and the authorities just don't seem as tolerant anymore. The club scene in Panama was always relatively small, but still vibrant. But I don't know. On subsequent trips, things just seemed a little stale and too "low energy" for me. The Veneto Hotel where I first stayed started to go into decline. I have not been back to either in some time. What I like to do now is go back to my favorites while every now and then striking out to go to some other place where I have not been.
Man, I've been to damn near all of the top mongering destinations! No DR yet. Indonesia is huge, but I have not been. We shall see! As for Dubai, first as with Switzerland too (and even more so), when I said "expensive", I meant kind of as in everything, not just the girls. And when it came to the girls, some were definitely more expensive than others. It depended on the club and / or nationality of the girl. The Premiere Nightclub at the Hyatt Regency was outstanding with lots of top shelf Russian and FSU girls. Another Dubai club with pretty, top shelf, expensive Ruskie pussy is Cavalli. I wanted to go to the world-renowned Rattlesnake, but it had closed for good before my trip! Win some, lose some. As long as I'm mostly winning, I'm all good!
GuyBrusg1957
11-24-20, 04:18
The Premiere Nightclub at the Hyatt Regency was outstanding with lots of top shelf Russian and FSU girls. Another Dubai club with pretty, top shelf, expensive Ruskie pussy is Cavalli. I wanted to go to the world-renowned Rattlesnake, but it had closed for good before my trip! Win some, lose some. As long as I'm mostly winning, I'm all good!Could you talk about the high end hotel bars and night clubs? Kinda interested what that whole experience looks like. Girls, the club itself, the whole experience, etc.
Could you talk about the high end hotel bars and night clubs? Kinda interested what that whole experience looks like. Girls, the club itself, the whole experience, etc.I've said enough here. This is the London thread. You need to RTFF in the relevant threads.
Bhamsookh1
11-24-20, 14:21
Hello brethren!
Can I please request to get some leads PM'ed to me? I am looking for an independent escort / model (not the ones with agencies please, thanks). Even contacts of girls looking for sugardaddy are welcome. I live in Zone 1. Budget under 500 quid for short time. Cheers.
...........No DR yet. Indonesia is huge, but I have not been............I've been to both of which I've reported. DR is worth a visit, different vibe from other Latino countries and non-pros are more readily available. I visited Indonesia once so cannot grade overall but it was one of my best mongering adventures.
Diva Jackline.
I have visited here in the past, and this will be my third visit. Due to time constraints I have to book a 30 minutes session.
She is a pleasant girl, as you walk in, her smile and the way she deals with you will make you comfortable.
And make you feel as if you are entering into our own house or a GF's house.
She is happy with French kissing, but she has Botox!! Which I don't really like, but her attitude pays off!
So you can't really go and bite it, she will remind you in advance not to bite her lips!!
69 is fine, initially a bit cold but over time she responds. And she enjoys, if you miss the spots, she will guide you!!
Overall its more of a GF experience.
My regular girls are Electra, Fortune, Jackline, however I plan to try other, seems there are new birds.
Its a risk, as there is no reviews and we never know their attitude!!
I usually book by setting the expectations like DFK & 69 as a standard service.
Happy mongering.
Cheers.
Steve 9696
12-02-20, 02:20
Diva Jackline.
I have visited here in the past, and this will be my third visit. Due to time constraints I have to book a 30 minutes session.
She is a pleasant girl, as you walk in, her smile and the way she deals with you will make you comfortable.
And make you feel as if you are entering into our own house or a GF's house.
She is happy with French kissing, but she has Botox!! Which I don't really like, but her attitude pays off!
So you can't really go and bite it, she will remind you in advance not to bite her lips!!
69 is fine, initially a bit cold but over time she responds. And she enjoys, if you miss the spots, she will guide you!!
Overall its more of a GF experience.
My regular girls are Electra, Fortune, Jackline, however I plan to try other, seems there are new birds.
Its a risk, as there is no reviews and we never know their attitude!!
I usually book by setting the expectations like DFK & 69 as a standard service.
Happy mongering.
Cheers.Based on the girls you have seen you should book Noleta. I haven't seen her new tits -old ones were great no need to change but her looks attitude and skills are great. I'the say a shade less pretty and vivacious than Fortune (really who isn't! Fortune is a full on ten in my book and noleta a 9 ) but her skills are waaaaay better. Great kisser too. And what a sweetheart. High recommend.
Here is my review from Oct 2019 written right after seeing her:
Wow. Wow. Wow. What a girl! To start with, she is super charming and welcoming. Just a sweet, sweet spirit that u cant help but notice and she puts u completely at ease. Her body and face are as shown and as described by others -- AMAZING. Slim but not painfully skinny. Just gorgeous. Amazing skills and very accommodating in bed. Make sure to tell her how u like it. The BJ started off one way but when I told her how I like it -- WOW f*cking fireworks. Top 5 BJ worldwide and I've been everywhere. Sweet girl. Amazing GFE. You must see her!
I saw notela's reviews, I have is 50/50 thoughts about her, as for me enhanced / Botox are all turn offs!!
Off course, Jackline have Botox, but for the first visit I wasn't aware of it, as the profile says natural.
And her welcoming nature made me feel better, its my experience most of the Botox girls are a bit concerned with a passionate kissing. Biting lips!! I love it. Not in a manner that hurts.
As I said, I am going to give a try with other girls than safe bets!
Hope all has planned something for the X'mas!
Cheers.
Based on the girls you have seen you should book Noleta. I haven't seen her new tits -old ones were great no need to change but her looks attitude and skills are great. I'the say a shade less pretty and vivacious than Fortune (really who isn't! Fortune is a full on ten in my book and noleta a 9 ) but her skills are waaaaay better. Great kisser too. And what a sweetheart. High recommend.
Here is my review from Oct 2019 written right after seeing her:
Wow. Wow. Wow. What a girl! To start with, she is super charming and welcoming. Just a sweet, sweet spirit that u cant help but notice and she puts u completely at ease. Her body and face are as shown and as described by others -- AMAZING. Slim but not painfully skinny. Just gorgeous. Amazing skills and very accommodating in bed. Make sure to tell her how u like it. The BJ started off one way but when I told her how I like it -- WOW f*cking fireworks. Top 5 BJ worldwide and I've been everywhere. Sweet girl. Amazing GFE. You must see her!
I saw notela's reviews, I have is 50/50 thoughts about her, as for me enhanced / Botox are all turn offs!!
Cheers.I fucked Noleta around this time last year before she got breast implants. I actually told her this at the time, but her tits were perfect the way they were. Looking at the recent pictures of Noleta on the Diva site confirms that the bolt-ONS were not a great move. But, I'm someone who hates fake tits so I'm probably biased.
I'd session with Fortune again way before I would repeat with Noleta. In fact, I'd try one of the hot new girls that are being well reviewed on the Diva site. Noleta was nice, incredibly beautiful and sexy, but I'm really happy I got her before she started getting out of hand with body modification.
AmericanPi
12-05-20, 01:29
This makes me want to put out my top five!!
But I'm not going to do them and rank order; I'm going to explain that you get different experiences at different places. You can't compare a seafood restaurant to a steak restaurant. It depends on what you want to eat that night.
- London. The incall game at divas is expensive and worth it. Plus you get a world class city to spend time.
- Tijuana. It's raunchy and dirty. I would not fly to get here, but if you live in California, it's well worth it. The food and beer scene is amazing. This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life.
- German FKK. It's not the best experience, but it's an experience you have to have. Like a Vegas buffet. You're not mad you did it, but you don't necessarily want to do it all the time.
- Montreal- very attractive European-ish girls for when you can't get to Europe. City is decent.
- Spain. Wide range of girls to choose from, and great cities (barca and Madrid) to enjoy food and culture.
And the sh*t list.
- Amsterdam. Just not a very interesting city, and the monger game is contrived and forced. This is like going to Vegas for culture.
- Vegas. Just ugh.
Hey my friend! And you had the temerity to call me a lucky ba*tard for having options in Spain at the moment! I thought I'd mongered far and wide yet this was only your list of best. Maybe you mongered elsewhere that did not make this impressive list. I was somewhat staggered to see Argentina not even make the top 10. Interested to know why you think a country blessed with so many stunning girls, and close to your number one choice, comes so low? Ditto Panama.
For good measure, my list would be:
1. Germany (FKKs).
2. Spain. Love the CDS and Madrid.
3. Manchester in the UK but London wouldn't make my top 50 - I hate bait and switch.
4. Cambodia.
5. Switzerland. Loved Globe.
Mongerer88
12-05-20, 18:11
You should give the 100 Proof ladies a try in Vegas, especially Dani Quinn.
As far as looks and services in the room, I get the exact same thing I get from my favorites in Montreal and Spain. Granted for two to three times the price.
But other than the very high price, everything is the same. So I don't give it an Ugh.
https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/companions
This makes me want to put out my top five!!
But I'm not going to do them and rank order; I'm going to explain that you get different experiences at different places. You can't compare a seafood restaurant to a steak restaurant. It depends on what you want to eat that night.
- London. The incall game at divas is expensive and worth it. Plus you get a world class city to spend time.
- Tijuana. It's raunchy and dirty. I would not fly to get here, but if you live in California, it's well worth it. The food and beer scene is amazing. This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life.
- German FKK. It's not the best experience, but it's an experience you have to have. Like a Vegas buffet. You're not mad you did it, but you don't necessarily want to do it all the time.
- Montreal- very attractive European-ish girls for when you can't get to Europe. City is decent.
- Spain. Wide range of girls to choose from, and great cities (barca and Madrid) to enjoy food and culture..
Steve 9696
12-06-20, 01:31
You should give the 100 Proof ladies a try in Vegas, especially Dani Quinn.
As far as looks and services in the room, I get the exact same thing I get from my favorites in Montreal and Spain. Granted for two to three times the price.
But other than the very high price, everything is the same. So I don't give it an Ugh.
https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/companionsMongerer88 — what is the price of those 100 proof girls. I can't imagine.
AmericanPI. Love your perspective and wit. My favorite: "This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life. " Haha I laughed so hard.
On Vegas I had some of my best Sugar Babies there. Had Krystal 2 nights, including one overnight. An Alexa 2 nights also. Also an overnight. Recognize that finding SBs is a huge amount of work. But having a full evening with a hottie and a full overnight (her choice) for $500 beats escorts by a mile. An Alexa is the girl I flew to Tampa a few weeks ago. (See Seeking Arrangements thread) Once you find an SB with chemistry you can rinse and repeat.
Mongerer88
12-06-20, 01:49
Mongerer88 what is the price of those 100 proof girls. I can't imagine.
AmericanPI. Love your perspective and wit. My favorite: "This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life. " Haha I laughed so hard.
On Vegas I had some of my best Sugar Babies there. Had Krystal 2 nights, including one overnight. An Alexa 2 nights also. Also an overnight. Recognize that finding SBs is a huge amount of work. But having a full evening with a hottie and a full overnight (her choice) for $500 beats escorts by a mile. An Alexa is the girl I flew to Tampa a few weeks ago. (See Seeking Arrangements thread) Once you find an SB with chemistry you can rinse and repeat.Prices are in the Packages section of the website. They are $500 an hour with a bit of a discount for longer time blocks.
https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/packages
I usually only have an hour or two to devote to the activity in Vegas, so escorts are my personal preference at the moment, but I enjoy reading your reports and eventually plan to explore the SB route. For the longest time, I had a regular escort in Vegas (not a 100 Proof lady) who I often went out to dinner with afterward, so I understand the benefits and enjoyment. That was back in the days that Vegas independent escort rates were more in the $400-$450 hour range.
This is one of the last holdouts at that still has relatively lower rates. I haven't seen her personally, but a guy I trust on the Toronto board says very good things about her.
https://www.exoticjaydalee.com/aboutme/
I am curious as to what AmericanPI did to have such bad experiences in Vegas? It isn't Montreal, Barcelona or Madrid in terms of pricing, but as I said before, Dani Quinn of 100 Proof was as attractive and talented as anyone I have seen in any of the three cities he ranked so highly. In fact, she would be number one in terms of perfect breasts.
AmericanPi
12-06-20, 18:56
I am curious as to what AmericanPI did to have such bad experiences in Vegas? It isn't Montreal, Barcelona or Madrid in terms of pricing, but as I said before, Dani Quinn of 100 Proof was as attractive and talented as anyone I have seen in any of the three cities he ranked so highly. In fact, she would be number one in terms of perfect breasts.Vegas is, to me, just played out. Everything is more forced and expensive than it needs to be.
Restaurants are all the most superlative of their kind, which is great, kind of, but it's just overdone. Celebrity chef 200 dollar meals you post on Instagram.
Shows are the same. Expensive, overcooked, overdone.
Strip clubs the same. The hottest girls are there, sure, but they know it and act like it. Just like the restaurants. There's no serendipity. It's just transactional.
I've not had an escort in Vegas. But I assume it's the same. The hottest girls, who know they are, and act like they are, and charge accordingly. It's not the money. I can afford it. It's the nature of the experience I'd personally avoid.
AlwaysOn2020
12-14-20, 16:46
Sorry about the delayed posts. Crazy few weeks at work here. So, of all the experiences in London, my absolute favorite at Diva was Irada.... So, finally got a chance to log back in after a crazy few weeks at work. Looked back at another one of the videos I made when I was in London and figured it's time for a review.
So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-so great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.
Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'the pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world. Also, she was quite Tight.
Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.
Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to re So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-do great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.
Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'd pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world and was quite Tight.
Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.
Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to reveal a Stunning pair. Ate away for a good while. Took off her jeans to reveal blue Calvin Klein lingerie. Guided my fingers in between her legs. Was pleasantly surprised to notice that she was as wet as she could be. Guess she likes having her breasts eaten up like a glutton. Moved to DFK on the bed which she was quite into followed by amazing CBJ. Once that was done, moved on to different positions for a good 20 min or so of banging away. Despite being wet, she was Very tight too which was a pleasant surprise. Doggy style was great but Cowgirl with her breasts bouncing away was the absolute best. Best part of the session was that she seemed to be completely into it. Either she was or was at least a terrific Actor. Or maybe the slowdown in business with the lockdown had her horny AF.
Overall, amazing session. I'd her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.
Overall, amazing session. I'd rate her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.
About Babylon as an agency. The service was spot on, I was able to book the session at like 2 in the night when many of the other agencies start to wind down. But then, if the same lady is available on any other agency, expect to pay more on Babylon. For 90 min with filming with Mask, I think it may have cost me at least 100 more than what I would have paid at Diva. But then, Roberta's not on Diva.
Anyway, in summary, if you love a perfect pair of breasts, don't mind Tattoos, prefer them Tight, do give Roberta a try.
As always, do let me know if you guys have any questions. Cheers!
AlwaysOn2020
12-14-20, 16:51
Vegas is, to me, just played out. Everything is more forced and expensive than it needs to be.
Restaurants are all the most superlative of their kind, which is great, kind of, but it's just overdone... My thoughts as well. If you'd want to meet young beauties like London has to offer with a service level that's comparable in Vegas, I guess you'd have to be a high flyer with enough dollars to throw away. Spend 350 £ in London and you're almost guaranteed to have your mind blown by a stunner. Not sure if that's the case with Vegas. That's just my two-cents.
New York used to be good, not sure that's tho case anymore.
Hard to beat London though. It's like going to a high-end buffet.
Mongerer88
12-14-20, 23:42
My thoughts as well. If you'd want to meet young beauties like London has to offer with a service level that's comparable in Vegas, I guess you'd have to be a high flyer with enough dollars to throw away. Spend 350 in London and you're almost guaranteed to have your mind blown by a stunner. Not sure if that's the case with Vegas. That's just my two-cents.
New York used to be good, not sure that's tho case anymore.
Hard to beat London though. It's like going to a high-end buffet.London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.
The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant.
If a guy is from the USA, his costs and inconvenience to get to London are significantly greater. Even a supposedly free ticket using airline frequent flier miles has enormous surcharges with respect to the return portion of the ticket that are unique to London.
Certainly London is a fascinating historical city to explore, but a decision as to whether to allocate relatively more funds as an American to European travel differs from person to person. Vegas has some very good driving day trips including Red Rock & Death Valley, Hoover Dam and its canyons, and even the Grand Canyon and southern Utah national parks if someone is up for longer drives.
I know it seems a tad off-topic, but if someone gives Vegas an Ugh rating on this thread, apparently without having even explored its scene, I think it is useful to discuss its scene for reasonable comparisons, so I, and I think others, linked to some $400-$600 an hour escorts who provide a very solid GFE experience. And certainly the Sugar Baby scene that others describe in detail should be given great attention.
Every city has a different scene. Certainly a significant advantage of London over Vegas is the availability of 30 and 45 minute incalls. The older any given one of us gets, the more difficult it is to do two shots in an hour, especially if a guy sees more than one lady on a trip. The time it takes for an escort to travel to and within the casino hotels makes it impossible for her to offer lower priced sessions for less than an hour.
So yes, London is better than Vegas, but right now London is inaccessible to Americans, so if Vegas is going to be discussed on the London thread, let's at least mention the good with the bad. I avoid the overpriced restaurants. And sometimes take a long walk or even the local bus system to eat where the locals eat, or at least at the less expensive restaurants on the strip.
Steve 9696
12-15-20, 03:17
So, finally got a chance to log back in after a crazy few weeks at work. Looked back at another one of the videos I made when I was in London and figured it's time for a review.
So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-so great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.
Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'the pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world. Also, she was quite Tight.
Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.
Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to re So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-do great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.
Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'd pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world and was quite Tight.
Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.
Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to reveal a Stunning pair. Ate away for a good while. Took off her jeans to reveal blue Calvin Klein lingerie. Guided my fingers in between her legs. Was pleasantly surprised to notice that she was as wet as she could be. Guess she likes having her breasts eaten up like a glutton. Moved to DFK on the bed which she was quite into followed by amazing CBJ. Once that was done, moved on to different positions for a good 20 min or so of banging away. Despite being wet, she was Very tight too which was a pleasant surprise. Doggy style was great but Cowgirl with her breasts bouncing away was the absolute best. Best part of the session was that she seemed to be completely into it. Either she was or was at least a terrific Actor. Or maybe the slowdown in business with the lockdown had her horny AF.
Overall, amazing session. I'd her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.
Overall, amazing session. I'd rate her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.
About Babylon as an agency. The service was spot on, I was able to book the session at like 2 in the night when many of the other agencies start to wind down. But then, if the same lady is available on any other agency, expect to pay more on Babylon. For 90 min with filming with Mask, I think it may have cost me at least 100 more than what I would have paid at Diva. But then, Roberta's not on Diva.
Anyway, in summary, if you love a perfect pair of breasts, don't mind Tattoos, prefer them Tight, do give Roberta a try.
As always, do let me know if you guys have any questions. Cheers!Damn Roberta is fucking hot! Sooo my type. But CBJ? Was that her plan or yours? I'the love to put her on my shortlist. But not if CBJ. So what's the scoop?
London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.
The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant.
If a guy is from the USA, his costs and inconvenience to get to London are significantly greater. Even a supposedly free ticket using airline frequent flier miles has enormous surcharges with respect to the return portion of the ticket that are unique to London.
Certainly London is a fascinating historical city to explore, but a decision as to whether to allocate relatively more funds as an American to European travel differs from person to person. Vegas has some very good driving day trips including Red Rock & Death Valley, Hoover Dam and its canyons, and even the Grand Canyon and southern Utah national parks if someone is up for longer drives.
I know it seems a tad off-topic, but if someone gives Vegas an Ugh rating on this thread, apparently without having even explored its scene, I think it is useful to discuss its scene for reasonable comparisons, so I, and I think others, linked to some $400-$600 an hour escorts who provide a very solid GFE experience. And certainly the Sugar Baby scene that others describe in detail should be given great attention.
Every city has a different scene. Certainly a significant advantage of London over Vegas is the availability of 30 and 45 minute incalls. The older any given one of us gets, the more difficult it is to do two shots in an hour, especially if a guy sees more than one lady on a trip. The time it takes for an escort to travel to and within the casino hotels makes it impossible for her to offer lower priced sessions for less than an hour.
So yes, London is better than Vegas, but right now London is inaccessible to Americans, so if Vegas is going to be discussed on the London thread, let's at least mention the good with the bad. I avoid the overpriced restaurants. And sometimes take a long walk or even the local bus system to eat where the locals eat, or at least at the less expensive restaurants on the strip.I live on the east coast and would never consider heading west for action. I used to hobby in Vegas in the eighties and never really enjoyed it, the action in NYC was much better. Back then accommodation was very cheap and food was great. However, I never liked the attitude of the hookers, they were too mercenary for my taste. An hour with a hooker would have averaged about $50 but the vibe was never right for me, the girls were too cold and overly time conscious. I've not been back to Vegas since the late 80's.
AlwaysOn2020
12-15-20, 18:20
Damn Roberta is fucking hot! Sooo my type. But CBJ? Was that her plan or yours? I'the love to put her on my shortlist. But not if CBJ. So what's the scoop?Oh, should've mentioned. CBJ is usually the way to go for me. I try and play safe so I can keep going. I'm guessing Roberta offers either.
The only one time I've skipped the see, I was high as a kite. And I went for A+ with Irada. So in a way my choices aren't completely logical.
But generally speaking, I opt for CBJ.
Roberta. Highly recommended. I'd repeat just for those breasts.
AlwaysOn2020
12-15-20, 18:23
London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.
The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant..Yea, I agree. Getting to London can be a pain. This year especially has proved that.
Just curious, in the US, is Vegas your favorite go-to city of the lot?
AlwaysOn2020
12-15-20, 18:26
I live on the east coast and would never consider heading west for action. I used to hobby in Vegas in the eighties and never really enjoyed it, the action in NYC was much better..Yea. Same here. East Coast. I think NYC in general is going down in terms of quality but used to be good till even a few years ago. Wish I was old enough in the 90's. I've heard those were the golden days for the city.
Mongerer88
12-16-20, 02:40
Yea, I agree. Getting to London can be a pain. This year especially has proved that.
Just curious, in the US, is Vegas your favorite go-to city of the lot?I pretty much like NYC, Miami and Las Vegas the same. Going to any one place too often gets old. Chicago has a scene, but it has never been as good in my opinion as those three cities and L. A. Of course none of them are as good as major European cities or Montreal or Toronto, but they all have their place. Let's face it, most Americans travel to American cities more often than overseas, and for the foreseeable future it is all Americans will have. So we might as well get used to it.
AmericanPi
12-16-20, 06:36
Very well put. And fair.
A totally rational actor would consider travel time, travel expense, etc in the mental calculus and figure a comparable 500 dollar Vegas provider is cheap by comparison to a 350 dollar one in London that requires so much more effort and time.
But enter the right brain. Once you know what you can get for what, you feel insulted otherwise. That a burger costs 14 dollars in Disneyland does not make you feel it's any less overpriced. You know you're paying for location / access / convenience. And you kinda resent it. Just saying.
London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.
The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant..
I believe, the Americans have the honey pot!! Brazil & Colombia. And off course the other Latin American countries.
Have been only to Colombia, I will easily skip Europe for Latin America. Cheap, less attitude better service and finally beauties! Flesh at right places.
The below is my opinion.
East Asian -- Thai / Vietnam / etc.
You will be treated like a baby, they will try to please you as much they can.
Europe -- East and West.
Business like. You pay for the service and time, if the girls finds a little interest you, then you might feel at home!
Some of the agencies girls stand out with pleasant behaviour eg: Diva.
Latin America (I am only writing based on my Colombian experience).
Will treat you like a Man, the girls take it as an insult if the man is not satisfied.
There are some cheaky girls, however if they feel that they are not women enough to satisfy you, they will go an extra mile to prove their womanhood!
Never had a bad experience in all three cites (Bogota / Medellin / Cartagena), while I was there for 3 weeks, few days in each city.
2020! All plans shattered to visit Colombia again!
I pretty much like NYC, Miami and Las Vegas the same. Going to any one place too often gets old. Chicago has a scene, but it has never been as good in my opinion as those three cities and L. A. Of course none of them are as good as major European cities or Montreal or Toronto, but they all have their place. Let's face it, most Americans travel to American cities more often than overseas, and for the foreseeable future it is all Americans will have. So we might as well get used to it.
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12-18-20, 08:02
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Yea. Same here. East Coast. I think NYC in general is going down in terms of quality but used to be good till even a few years ago. Wish I was old enough in the 90's. I've heard those were the golden days for the city.The golden days for NYC were in the 70's and 80's. The best mongering ever on the planet with the possible exception of 1920's Berlin which I have only read about.
AmericanPi
12-18-20, 16:31
I believe, the Americans have the honey pot!! Brazil & Colombia. And off course the other Latin American countries.Good to hear that perspective. Makes me, as an American, appreciate what I have. Though Depends on what you like.
Personally I like them white chicks. Pale skin, light eyes, etc. So Europe is heaven.
Some dudes like them Latinas. Some dudes like Africans. Some dudes like Asians. Some are totally p**sy agnostic. A pipe for each hole I suppose. I'd take Europe any day of the week. Especially London.
Marelobo Mex
12-20-20, 00:41
You should give the 100 Proof ladies a try in Vegas, especially Dani Quinn.
As far as looks and services in the room, I get the exact same thing I get from my favorites in Montreal and Spain. Granted for two to three times the price.
But other than the very high price, everything is the same. So I don't give it an Ugh.
https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/companionsM88 if this works for you that is great.
I just looked the website I didn't see a single girl that I would be willing to pay. Sure if she walked up to me a party and said lets go have sex for free, I would do it.
I realize different people have different fantasies but none of these ladies hits my college girl fantasy.
And for $500 I can get three girls in London not one.
I suppose if you are seeking a late 20's early 30's girl and have a lot more disposable money than I do this might work great.
I have never been to Las Vegas besides airport, but this information does not incent me to make a trip.
MM.
Mongerer88
12-20-20, 13:57
Most everywhere in Europe, on a price-adjusted basis, is better than anywhere in the United States. However, for those living in the USA, foreign travel is simply not possible. For what it is with, Dani Quinn in Las Vegas is early-mid 20's and looks relatively young in real life. In general, though, you make an excellent point that Europe, and Montreal for that matter, has a greater availability of 18-22 year olds than the USA Escort scene, since most USA Escorts are independents, and it takes a while to build up the ability to work as an independent, and the current crop of new interested American ladies just turning 18 seem to prefer the Sugar Baby system. The German / Swiss FKK system and you. K. 's Diva Escort system (presumably) provides a strong support system that makes it relatively easier for older Eastern European teens to work in the industry. If you are European, there is certainly going to be no practical reason to learn anything about the USA Scene. There are three interesting points of analysis, though. What the hell are the American guys who claim to only monger overseas doing for commercial sex right now? Are many of them just waiting it out? Hell, at least an American can fly to Vegas. London, especially after last night's stage 4 lockdown, is simply off-limits for them. Another issue is whether Eastern Europeans will be able to operate as freely in London post-Brexit. It is always worth noting that the price differences between USA And "native-born" you. K. Escorts is not that great on a currency-adjusted basis. And of course the greatest unknown is whether affordable, and / or employer-subsidized international travel, will return to its previous level for Americans post Covid. There have been a lot of airline bailouts in terms of loans that end up making the government and the nasty general public a little too nosy when it comes to things like inexpensive tickets and "low-tier" award tickets using frequent flyer miles. I hope life gets back to normal for Americans, because I enjoy European travel, too. But I am careful to avoid being a slave to anything and I think it is useful to evaluate the overall costs and enjoyments available even in the USA Market, because certain international markets for Americans might not get back to the way they were anytime soon.
M88 if this works for you that is great.
I just looked the website I didn't see a single girl that I would be willing to pay. Sure if she walked up to me a party and said lets go have sex for free, I would do it.
I realize different people have different fantasies but none of these ladies hits my college girl fantasy.
And for $500 I can get three girls in London not one.
I suppose if you are seeking a late 20's early 30's girl and have a lot more disposable money than I do this might work great..
AmericanPi
12-20-20, 17:19
Quote responding to: What the hell are the American guys who claim to only monger overseas doing for commercial sex right now? Are many of them just waiting it out?
Actually that is absolutely correct. My desire to not catch Covid exceeds my desire to get some tang. It sucks, and there's going to be A hell of a trip at the other end of this, but in the meantime I'm just passing time.
AdmiralEscorts
12-21-20, 12:35
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Steve 9696
12-21-20, 16:48
For me its banging hookers who are no where near as hot as the FKK sweeties. For others I suppose its pornhub.In the US right now the only game in town is Sugar Babies. There is a Seeking Arrangement thread (go to general and dating agencies) that covers this. Prior to Covid I started experimenting with SA during travel. And with a ton of work you can find some real gems. I saw 18 girls between June and Dec 2019 before Covid and they were all pretty great.
Now post Covid this has become the only game in town in the US for many of us. It takes a lot of work to weed the wheat from the chaff. But once you do the reward is high. Had a steady girl (weekly-ish) from Sept-Oct tho that has fizzled now. And now a new one that looks like she'll last a while. The sex is very intimate and passionate since these girls are not pros per se.
Anyhow. Sugar is the name of the game in the US right now.
Bhamsookh1
12-22-20, 08:48
Hello brethren!
Can I please request to get some leads PM'ed to me? I am looking for an independent escort / model (not the ones with agencies please, thanks). Even contacts of girls looking for sugardaddy are welcome. I live in Zone 1. Budget under 500 quid for short time. Cheers.Any help fellas? PM active.
In the US right now the only game in town is Sugar Babies. There is a Seeking Arrangement thread (go to general and dating agencies) that covers this. Prior to Covid I started experimenting with SA during travel. And with a ton of work you can find some real gems. I saw 18 girls between June and Dec 2019 before Covid and they were all pretty great.
Now post Covid this has become the only game in town in the US for many of us. It takes a lot of work to weed the wheat from the chaff. But once you do the reward is high. Had a steady girl (weekly-ish) from Sept-Oct tho that has fizzled now. And now a new one that looks like she'll last a while. The sex is very intimate and passionate since these girls are not pros per se.
Anyhow. Sugar is the name of the game in the US right now.Glad you're having a great time with Seeking. I've tried it, its not for me. The reward is not commensurate with the effort.
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12-23-20, 13:31
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AlwaysOn2020
12-23-20, 20:48
Quote responding to: What the hell are the American guys who claim to only monger overseas doing for commercial sex right now? Are many of them just waiting it out?
Actually that is absolutely correct. My desire to not catch Covid exceeds my desire to get some tang. It sucks, and there's going to be A hell of a trip at the other end of this, but in the meantime I'm just passing time.Haha. Spot on. I've been looking at where to head to next the moment things get back to normal. Funny enough I'm quite close to Toronto but haven't been there yet. Hearing a lot about Markhan, Ontario. And yea, hopefully going to be a Hell of a trip at the end of it. Or, alternatively, if it the first session at the end of the pandemic ends up being vanilla / uninteresting, I just may end up quitting the hobby.
Not really though. Who am I kidding.
On a parallel note, Isn't London one of the few cities where filming the experience is more accepted? I know it usually costs 50-10 quid more, but I've always wondered why it isn't an option most folks opt for. Do any of you all go for the Filming with Mask option too? Or is it just a Fetish for me.
AmericanPi
12-24-20, 03:20
Haha. Spot on. I've been looking at where to head to next the moment things get back to normal. Funny enough I'm quite close to Toronto but haven't been there yet. Hearing a lot about Markhan, Ontario. And yea, hopefully going to be a Hell of a trip at the end of it. Or, alternatively, if it the first session at the end of the pandemic ends up being vanilla / uninteresting, I just may end up quitting the hobby.
Not really though. Who am I kidding.
On a parallel note, Isn't London one of the few cities where filming the experience is more accepted? I know it usually costs 50-10 quid more, but I've always wondered why it isn't an option most folks opt for. Do any of you all go for the Filming with Mask option too? Or is it just a Fetish for me.Where are you at in the states? I am in Southern California. So getting to Canada is not just a quick drive. But really looking forward topping on that plane.
Re: filming some people like it, some people don't. It's not my jam. I don't like how I look porking. And. Domestic issues with keeping records. Just being real.
........On a parallel note, Isn't London one of the few cities where filming the experience is more accepted? I know it usually costs 50-10 quid more, but I've always wondered why it isn't an option most folks opt for. Do any of you all go for the Filming with Mask option too? Or is it just a Fetish for me.Filming was a huge fetish for me back in the day. If a girl did not allow it I used to choose someone else. I have a ton of video tapes I made back in the day some with me doing it but most with girls doing naughty things to themselves and to others. Back then there was no internet so photos and videos were easily obtained. If I ever become famous and that box is found I'll be in huge trouble. LOL.
AlwaysOn2020
12-24-20, 18:49
Where are you at in the states? I am in Southern California. So getting to Canada is not just a quick drive. But really looking forward topping on that plane..Near Ann Arbor. Been here for over a year now. Used to be in Philly so back then NYC was within reach. Philly wasn't too bad either. Truth be told, it's kinda slow in and around here even without Covid. I guess that's the way it is the closer you get to the Mid West (or) the farther you move away from the coast. And with Work-Travel on hold, no real excuse to leave home and go cross states.
Toronto's just a drive away so I know where I'm heading next year.
Isn't SoCal good? I thought you guys have it all. Weather and women. You do have a good Spa scene too yea?
And not sure if you mentioned you've been there already. But Tijuana, as much as it may be a trashy, the agencies there seem to be legit? Have you been?
AlwaysOn2020
12-24-20, 18:58
Filming was a huge fetish for me back in the day.... If I ever become famous and that box is found I'll be in huge trouble. LOL.Yea, it's definitely a Fetish for me now. Back in the day I used to think it'd be a good idea but never really went about trying to do it. Now that I've lived in London, I've realized how much of a Huge Fetish it is. I guess I keep tell myself that when I'm in my 70's (if I live that long), it would be awesome to relive the memories. Old retired chap watching memories of how (young) women way above his league treated him like a king. And the London shoots have definitely helped with the Lockdown.
And yea, hoping none of it gets found. In which case I might as well just jump off a bridge LOL.
AlwaysOn2020
12-24-20, 19:07
Any help fellas? PM active.Search for 'Anne girlfriend' on Adult Work. User ID: 5970896.
I haven't met her yet but been noticing some raving reviews on other boards.
And if she looks anywhere close to her pics (which all the reviews claim she does), you should have an amazing time.
Not sure if we can post links here but if you're not able to find her page, I'll try posting the Adultwork link here. Unfortunately my PM isn't active.
SirfIndian
12-24-20, 23:01
Hi friends,
I am looking for MILF fun at Central or East London.
Please help me with genuine contacts.
AlwaysOn2020
12-25-20, 02:56
Hi friends,
I am looking for MILF fun at Central or East London.
Please help me with genuine contacts.Check out Diva escorts my friend. In my opinion, they're the Gold Standard in London. Else, Adultwork, if you are willing to take a little bit of a risk. Do your research, read up reviews before you take the plunge.
Unfortunately, can't help you with MILFs, never been my preference.
Hi friends,
I am looking for MILF fun at Central or East London.
Please help me with genuine contacts.I am not sure about now especially with covid but Soho walk ups used to have MILFs. Could you go there and let us know your experiences?
Prelude141
12-25-20, 20:07
Oh, should've mentioned. CBJ is usually the way to go for me. I try and play safe so I can keep going. I'm guessing Roberta offers either.
The only one time I've skipped the see, I was high as a kite. And I went for A+ with Irada. So in a way my choices aren't completely logical.
But generally speaking, I opt for CBJ.
Roberta. Highly recommended. I'd repeat just for those breasts.Hi guy and Merry Christmas.
Here is my experience with the famous Roberta from Babylongirl agency.
This happened a few days ago.
I'm not British but I have been living in London for a few years now and I offer sometimes myself some good time with an escort.
Having read the feedback below about this girl, I wanted to book her and called the agency. Appointment taken quickly and efficiently for the same day in the evening. Incall meeting. I came at the agreed time at girl's apartment in the neighborhood of bond street tube station.
Nice little flat, the girl open the door and she is not the girl from the photo you see on the website, not at all to say the truth but somewhere sufficiently cute so I decide to stay. She has black hair, not blond, physically she has a sort a GND body, probably on the high end side of the GND spectrum though. She directs me to the bedroom straight when I enter the flat.
The girl was not specially dressed, just a short and a tee shirt but we start to chat for a few minutes and I feel comfortable. Time goes fast and after nearly 10 min we have not done anything yet so I pay her 200 £ and pull out my clothes to start the fun. She goes to what I think is the kitchen with the money (the door of the kitchen is closed but I thought this was to avoid customer to see anything else than the bedroom). She comes back to the bedroom 30's after.
I always bring and use my own condoms with WG because I have a slightly oversized dick and feel more comfortable with appropriate condoms than the ones used by WGs. She reacts when she sees the condoms arguing that she only uses her condoms, I explain about my dick size. Then she says that, my dick is indeed to big so she can only offer handjob and blowjob. At that moment I understand that there is something wrong and that happened just after I paid her.
I say that I understand that she might not want to fuck with me so, fair enough, I will put my clothes back on, she will give my money back because I don't want to pay 200 £ for HJ and BJ only and I will go home.
She explains that she can give me back half of the money eg 100 £. I start to be a bit nervous and the tone change. I'm going to be fooled by a 20 yo Romanian chick! I start to express myself in a more assertive way so there is no doubt that I will leave living 100 £ on the table when no service has been given. At that moment, I fully dressed again, just need to put my shoes and jacket on.
She goes to the kitchen to take my money and I follow her, she enters the kitchen and fuck it looks there is someone there! Hidden behind the door. I push the door while I'm just behind the girl and she says NO you can't enter here. And, at that moment a guy goes out from the kitchen like crazy armed with a wood stick and he shoot on me, screaming: get out, get out, get out.
I immediately understand the guy is the pimp of the girl, he stays quiet in the kitchen while the girl meets the mongers in the room.
I'm kind of speechless and a bit terrified, the guy run into the bedroom still screaming me to go out, take my shoes and jacket, come back in the corridor and throw, myself violently out, my shoes and jacket out as well outside the flat and slam the door.
I'm outside, have lost 200 £, been threatened by a pimp with a wood stick, I call the agency to complain. The guy from the agency tell me he call me back, he need to talk to the girl. Apparently the girl serves him a very different story saying I have violent and a neighbor came to help her. Anyway, the agency offer me 100 £ discount for my next meeting with them.
So is my experience with Roberta.
She proposed me coke as well when we were discussing at the beginning of the meeting.
Happy mongering.
SirfIndian
12-25-20, 22:34
Thanks for suggestions.
Do you have contacts of indie. My PM is active.
Check out Diva escorts my friend. In my opinion, they're the Gold Standard in London. Else, Adultwork, if you are willing to take a little bit of a risk. Do your research, read up reviews before you take the plunge.
Unfortunately, can't help you with MILFs, never been my preference.
AlwaysOn2020
12-26-20, 02:40
Hi guy and Merry Christmas.
Here is my experience with the famous Roberta from Babylongirl agency.
... So is my experience with Roberta..Oh f* So sorry to hear about your experience. Seems poles apart from what it was like for me. One of the aspects I did not appreciate was that she seemed to be in a bit of a hurry to leave as soon as the deed was done. I mentioned that in my review. But everything you experienced seems a whole lot worse. Folks deserve to know.
I had met her in my apartment. So not sure if Outcall worked in my favor.
Anyway, long story short, I'm sorry you had such a disgusting experience. And I feel even more like a dick that my review may have been one of the reasons you opted for her. I'll try and delete my post.
Cheers.
AlwaysOn2020
12-26-20, 02:42
Also, as a follow up to my previous rely, if any of you plan to meet Irada based on my review, please try Outcall. I know from her IG that she has a Russian bloke around. I'd hate to hear that that guy threatened one of you folks like the Roberta story below. Not sure if that guy lives with her, seems like her boyfriend.
End of Free movement but 90 days Visa Free from EU countries?
IMO this is good news for UK punting as this will mean the UK will still get a constant supply of vfm WGs from easter Europe such as PL, CZ, SK, HU, RO. Without them we are relying on the local supplies and as a demand is high, we will be paying a premium price. Anyway, many of them are not staying in the UK permanently, they just come working as a WG for a few months go back home and come again they are running out of cash.
Unlike in Germany, WGs, Prossies have not been regulated in the UK so they have not broken the law working as a WGs, Prossies what do you think guys?
AlwaysOn2020
12-26-20, 17:50
End of Free movement but 90 days Visa Free from EU countries?
IMO this is good news for UK punting as this ..... working as a WGs, Prossies what do you think guys?I think it will still hit the options that London provides. There's currently so many women to choose from. That could go down.
Even though most WGs usually are in London only temporarily, I think 90 days is too short a time. I mean, most WGs rent apartments / rooms for when they are in the UK. If they are traveling to London for work, finding an apartment that they can rent out for 90 days could turn out to be a hassle and may even make their trips less profitable.
Unless Diva, Babylon etc have a set of rooms they rent out. Like the den in Milton Keynes. Don't recall the name of the agency.
Anyway, long story short, Unfortunately, I think punting may take a hit in London. All we can do is wait and see.
Prelude141
12-26-20, 17:55
Oh f* So sorry to hear about your experience. Seems poles apart from what it was like for me. One of the aspects I did not appreciate was that she seemed to be in a bit of a hurry to leave as soon as the deed was done. I mentioned that in my review. But everything you experienced seems a whole lot worse. Folks deserve to know.
I had met her in my apartment. So not sure if Outcall worked in my favor.
Anyway, long story short, I'm sorry you had such a disgusting experience. And I feel even more like a dick that my review may have been one of the reasons you opted for her. I'll try and delete my post.
Cheers.No worries mate, that's part of the game.
That's being said, I might have an explanation for your experience when she was very into as you said. You said it was outcall and at 2 AM in the morning and this girl is a junky, she proposed me coke and I'm pretty sure she is a heavy consumer. Probably that at 2 am with noze full of coke, she was disinhibited and horny and that's why you had a great time. She was in a hurry to leave as her pimp was waiting for her outside in his car or in a cab. Pure speculation of course but my meeting was a 11 pm and incall with pimp hidden in the kitchen so that's a different context. Anyway, by far the worse punt or punt tentative I ever had.
Prelude141
12-26-20, 22:06
I think it will still hit the options that London provides. There's currently so many women to choose from. That could go down.
Even though most WGs usually are in London only temporarily, I think 90 days is too short a time. I mean, most WGs rent apartments / rooms for when they are in the UK. If they are traveling to London for work, finding an apartment that they can rent out for 90 days could turn out to be a hassle and may even make their trips less profitable.
Unless Diva, Babylon etc have a set of rooms they rent out. Like the den in Milton Keynes. Don't recall the name of the agency.
Anyway, long story short, Unfortunately, I think punting may take a hit in London. All we can do is wait and see.There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.
Situation like this, you should tell the agency you will call the police, as its a threat to your life.
Not sure you want to call in real, they wouldn't want the police to come into the neighbor hood, which gives more trouble for them than you.
These kinds of behavior are getting to be seen more in London, I did write a report earlier about a girl, who I got introduced via TG.
Safe mongering to all.
Cheers.
Hi guy and Merry Christmas.
Here is my experience with the famous Roberta from Babylongirl agency.
This happened a few days ago.
I'm not British but I have been living in London for a few years now and I offer sometimes myself some good time with an escort.
Having read the feedback below about this girl, I wanted to book her and called the agency. Appointment taken quickly and efficiently for the same day in the evening. Incall meeting. I came at the agreed time at girl's apartment in the neighborhood of bond street tube station.
Nice little flat, the girl open the door and she is not the girl from the photo you see on the website, not at all to say the truth but somewhere sufficiently cute so I decide to stay. She has black hair, not blond, physically she has a sort a GND body, probably on the high end side of the GND spectrum though. She directs me to the bedroom straight when I enter the flat..
....I'm outside, have lost 200 , been threatened by a pimp with a wood stick, I call the agency to complain. The guy from the agency tell me he call me back, he need to talk to the girl. Apparently the girl serves him a very different story saying I have violent and a neighbor came to help her. Anyway, the agency offer me 100 discount for my next meeting with them.
So is my experience with Roberta.
She proposed me coke as well when we were discussing at the beginning of the meeting.
Happy mongering.Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.
There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.I understand they use a bogus Estonian or Lithuanian passport to get into UK and there are a lot of rusky hookers in London and elsewhere which is strange as you observe.
Some of them are very good which I used for many months, others are bad ass and had rows with them.
AmericanPi
12-27-20, 19:37
SoCal's not so good. We do have a spa scene, yes. But it's Russian roulette. You never know what you're going to get. You cannot choose ahead of time, most places, and even then the average provider is a 4-5. Rarely do you get an 8. After years and many thousands of dollars I found 2 places that are reliable and solid, and now I wonder if they'll survive covid. Honestly it's just a lot of work. And then you are in the room and always wondering if LE is going to raid. I'm tired of entering establishments having to consider ahead of time what my reason for being there is.
I have indeed been to Tijuana. Many times. I'm a fan. It's not as classy as an FKK or London escort scene. It's trashy and tacky all over. But honestly that's part of the appeal. Sitting in a taco hut after busting a nut thinking "yeah, this is happening right now."
Isn't SoCal good? I thought you guys have it all. Weather and women. You do have a good Spa scene too yea?
And not sure if you mentioned you've been there already. But Tijuana, as much as it may be a trashy, the agencies there seem to be legit? Have you been?
Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.This report spooked me too. But don't write London off. It's a good city for the hobby IMHO. I'm personally more of an SA guy, but when I use escorts, it's always outcall. I like being on my turf and I like the thrill of opening the door and seeing the girl that I've never seen, but am about to bang. I have had issues with bait and switch (like all of us), so sometimes I get a good look at the girl while she is on her way to my door (hotel or airbnb). If she is not desirable or too much of a bait and switch, I call a silent audible (cancellation) with no confrontation and move on with my night. Maybe even call another provider for a 2nd attempt.
Before you guys say I'm a bastard for being callous with the WGs, don't think about your fav WG. Instead think about WGs that have given piss poor service for good money; bad attitudes, bad hygiene, or ones that don't honor their list of agreed upon services; WGs that won't switch positions or that intentionally bait and switch. The road of insensitivity and deceit is a two way street. My mind state would be unnecessary if the hobby was fair.
Safe mongering.
02.
There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.Some of them are coming as students. Unlike many Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians many of Russian girls are working as a high-class escorts. They are normally employed iby Bingo Halls, Casinos to attract rich people from Asia, Middle East (the golf) to burn their cash in casinos.
They might also be sponsored by Russians oligarch. Keep in mind there are reasonable numbers of Russians oligarch in London.
Prelude141
12-30-20, 01:15
Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.Well, before March this year I used to fly once to twice a month to Germany, Dusseldorf or Frankfurt, I prefer by far FKKs, they are a legal frame and the bad girls can't go to far with you in being dishonest. I have started to go back to visit escorts in London since beginning of the pandemic but after that experience with Roberta and her pimp, I m done, I will wait Germany to reopen. And by the way the Roberta is the typical girl you find in FKKs, those who always try to fool the customers but, in a club, the loss is limited to 50 euros, you never see an armed pimp behind the door next to the bedroom, you immediately can go for another girl if the one you chose initially does not deliver as promised.
.......... think about WGs that have given piss poor service for good money; bad attitudes, bad hygiene, or ones that don't honor their list of agreed upon services; WGs that won't switch positions or that intentionally bait and switch.....Have you had many of those in London?
Gold London
12-30-20, 15:22
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Steve 9696
12-30-20, 22:22
Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.
But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.
And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.
Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.
So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.
(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).
PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz it’s 103 to 2. Lol.
Marelobo Mex
01-02-21, 19:56
Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.
But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.
And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.
Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.
So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.
(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).
PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz its 103 to 2. Lol.Boys if one bad report scares you off, fair enough that is what your hand is for. There is always some risk and some fun, so this is not totally unexpected.
Steve is correct you can minimize your chance of things like this. First question why isn't Roberta on Diva? These girls usually are on many escort sites to maximize earnings For example.
Rushana on Diva is Aletta on Babylon.
Stefsia on Diva is Celine on Babylon.
I wonder is Pacifica on Diva the same girl as Roberta on Babylon.
When I made my first trip to London, Steve advised me to try Diva, it is one of the best pieces of advice I have received.
Diva at the bottom of the page has link "Not Recommended Escorts" They post pictures of the girls you should avoid. I know it is a few clicks of work, and you have compare the pictures because the girls change their names on each site but they may be worth it to avoid bad experience.
I have a slightly different take and I like to try out new girls before there are 20 five star reviews, but that means I am open to the odd bad experience.
Even in FKK, my first FKK I sampled 4 girls and 3 of the four provided boring mechanical sex. I was like why is everyone raving about FKK. I just happened to get unlucky and select girls who were not good. Many good experience since then.
While I agree that if a girl has many good reviews, you are likely to enjoy her also. That is not a guarantee.
I did a session with Chiquita and she had only good reviews. Our session was horrible. Did I catch her on a bad day? I doubt it, more then likely it was something about me that made the session bad. There are no guarantees.
Similarly I did a session with Toutsi and it was pretty bad. I gave a 1 star review, since then she has only had 5 star reviews. Maybe she improved.
I have also done sessions with girls with mixed reviews and had a great time. Then I prefer younger and less experienced girls like I had at University than girls with amazing BJ or sex skills. We all like different things.
You did the best thing you can do, you wrote an accurate but bad review. Think about how many guys will not see Roberta because of this. Roberta may read it and change her behavior in the future.
Having a pimp in the next room is really bad, but I went to girls flat one time and she lived with 3 other girls. When she asked me to take a shower I could hear one of her flatmates banging some other guy. It is part of the fun of the adventure.
Good luck, I know if I was in London right now I would have set up multiple girls a day and I would lie on my back and watch them slide up and down my pole.
MM.
P.S.: Steve I love that you took the time to count up the number of positive reviews on your favorite girls.
Have you had many of those in London?Yo Turgid,
My escort experience in London has been 50/50. Every romanian girl I have come across has been cold as ice with poor performance. This is excluding one Romanian / turkish girl that was amazing!! Half (and I do mean half. Bc I've had some that don't care) of the asians complain about your dick size. On the flip side, I've had ukrainian (my fav), polish, and czech girls that have done a great job, honor the menu, and look like their pics.
I have come across some bait and switch and refusal to honor the "whole menu", enough that I prescreen before actually engaging the escort.
Disclaimer is that I have never tried Diva. I've heard good things, so I intend to try next time I'm in town. Additional disclaimer is that I'm usually with a SB when in London. So, I may have unfair standards when judging the performance / interaction of an escort.
02.
Yo Turgid,
My escort experience in London has been 50/50. Every romanian girl I have come across has been cold as ice with poor performance. This is excluding one Romanian / turkish girl that was amazing!! Half (and I do mean half. Bc I've had some that don't care) of the asians complain about your dick size. On the flip side, I've had ukrainian (my fav), polish, and czech girls that have done a great job, honor the menu, and look like their pics.
I have come across some bait and switch and refusal to honor the "whole menu", enough that I prescreen before actually engaging the escort.
Disclaimer is that I have never tried Diva. I've heard good things, so I intend to try next time I'm in town. Additional disclaimer is that I'm usually with a SB when in London. So, I may have unfair standards when judging the performance / interaction of an escort.
02.Not all, but I good percentage of Romanian working girls in UK have been trafficked in and are being pimped by Romanian gangs so not surprising there's bait-and-switch and service is poor. A search on AW under London escorts nationality 'Romanian' shows around 500 profiles, many are very similar worded as the gangs just do a cut and paste and reuse the same pics.
But having said that there are some very nice independent Romanian gems in London but you have to dig deep and think with your head and not your dick. I suggest cross-checking the name for plenty of good feedback on AW before thinking about taking the plunge.
Standard. Co. Uk / news / crime / police-arrest-17-after-romanian-sex-trafficking-gang-busted-in-east-london-a4287066. Html.
Dennis Thomas
01-04-21, 02:04
Hello Friends.
Just want to get feedback from experienced guys in West Midlands_Birmingham, Coventry if girls advertised in Skokka / Vivastreet are reliable or some sort of scams.
Almost all girls wanted gift cards (Amazon, Steam cards, Tesco, Google Play etc) in return of services instead of cash and also want to pay up a minimal booking fee through bank transfer or PayPal.
Is it the norm. Advise and feedback requested.
Regards.
Hello Friends.
Just want to get feedback from experienced guys in West Midlands_Birmingham, Coventry if girls advertised in Skokka / Vivastreet are reliable or some sort of scams.
Almost all girls wanted gift cards (Amazon, Steam cards, Tesco, Google Play etc) in return of services instead of cash and also want to pay up a minimal booking fee through bank transfer or PayPal.
Is it the norm. Advise and feedback requested.
Regards.I have not tried the local scene but these all sound like a scam. I'd recommend that you check on adultwork and find those with good reviews.
TimTheoDuncan
01-04-21, 11:48
Hey all,
Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).
Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).
- end of May.
- end of July.
- end of October.
Any thoughts on the following.
- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).
- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?
- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?
This is several pages back so I'm reposting my rubric for choosing agency girls to reduce the chance that anyone has Prelude141 had with Roberta. This works very well for Diva, but it should work for any agency site.
If you run through this rubric, then the odds are overwhelming in your favour that you'll get the girl that's actually shown on the agency site and also receive the services you're looking for. Feel free to add to the rubric whatever works for you.
I've only been mongering for a few years, but I've learned that, like anything in life, there are ups and downs. I'm happy to report that my good experiences far outweigh my bad experiences. However, never put yourself in danger. I've never had to deal with someone hiding in the apartment or ever feeling that my safety was compromised. Let's all be careful out there.
I have personally used Diva and Babylon, and both agencies resulted in experiences ranging from OK to great. No agency will replace the need to meet the girl in person, but this is the rubric I use for any agency listing:
Photos
* Is the girl attractive?
* Are selfies available (not just photoshopped images)?
* Is video available?
Profile
* Is the girl in my preferred age range (early twenties)?
* Does the girl have my preferred traits (currently, slim blonde blue-eyed girls with natural breasts)?
* Does she speak English?
Services
* Does she provide FK?
* Does she provide DFK (not required for me, but nice to have)?
* Does she provide OWO (not required for me, but nice to know)?
* Does she duo with another girl (not required for me, but nice to know)?
* Does she dress up in costumes like secretary or schoolgirl (not required for me, but nice to have)?
Reviews
* How many reviews are available (ideally, at least three)?
* How far back do the reviews go (ideally, no more than two years)?
* Do the reviews seem real and not all written by the same person?
* Do any reviews state that the girl does not look like her pictures?
* Do any reviews confirm that the girl does indeed look like her pictures?
* Do any reviews mention that the girl was rude (although, this could just be bad chemistry between that reviewer and the girl)?
* Do any reviews confirm that the services listed were actually provided?
* Do any reviews confirm that characteristics mentioned in the profile?
* If there are negative reviews, are they far outweighed by the positive reviews in number and intensity?
* If a reviewer has spent multiple sessions with a girl, did the reviewer find the girl to be consistently good?
Currently, Diva lets me run through this entire rubric, and I would be cautious about any agencies that don't let you run through most of it.
Atanion.
Hey all,
Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).
Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).
- end of May.
- end of July.
- end of October.
Any thoughts on the following.
- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).
- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?
- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?I would probably rule out May, UK has just entered another full lock-down, (all schools closed etc) which will continue until mid-Feb at least, this is bc hospitalizations are soaring once again with this new more infectious Covid variant. But UK was the first western country to start vaccinations and over a million people had already been vaccinated by end of December and Government are forecasting that by end of Feb all elderly and vulnerable will have been vaccinated.
By law the girls can't work at the moment as meeting inside a building with a stranger is not permitted, but some still are if they are desperate for money. I do not expect Brexit will change much regarding availability and those girls from EU already living here were allowed to apply to remain permanently anyway, but It may reduce the number of Romanians. There are plenty of Russian, Brazilian, Thai and other non EU working girls in London and they have always needed a visa to enter.
Steve 9696
01-08-21, 03:28
I would probably rule out May, UK has just entered another full lock-down, (all schools closed etc) which will continue until mid-Feb at least, this is bc hospitalizations are soaring once again with this new more infectious Covid variant. But UK was the first western country to start vaccinations and over a million people had already been vaccinated by end of December and Government are forecasting that by end of Feb all elderly and vulnerable will have been vaccinated.
By law the girls can't work at the moment as meeting inside a building with a stranger is not permitted, but some still are if they are desperate for money. I do not expect Brexit will change much regarding availability and those girls from EU already living here were allowed to apply to remain permanently anyway, but It may reduce the number of Romanians. There are plenty of Russian, Brazilian, Thai and other non EU working girls in London and they have always needed a visa to enter.Despite the further lockdown Diva girls seem to still be working. There are reports from Jan 6. And Diva only posts validated actual meetups. So interesting.
Mongerer88
01-09-21, 14:29
I doubt if this goes anywhere. Germany has a similar nut who introduces similar legislation that dies after debate, but it is always useful to keep up with proposals.
https://eachother.org.uk/why-the-sexual-exploitation-bill-will-make-vulnerable-women-less-safe/
AlwaysOn2020
01-09-21, 18:21
No worries mate, that's part of the game.
That's being said, I might have an explanation for your experience when she was very into as you said....Yes, agreed, that's quite possible. Also, it was during the initial stages of Covid / Lockdown. She did mention that they were barely getting any appointments. So maybe, just maybe, she may have been horny as f* too. As much as it's a business for them, Id imagine they'd start missing it when things go super slow all on a sudden. And also, I tend to hit my vape (green) before (most) sessions, so 10% of it could have been my dick thinking over my brain X).
Anyway, Roberta's forever on my blacklist.
Hope you don't go through such shit on your future punts mate. Cheers.
AlwaysOn2020
01-09-21, 18:30
Despite the further lockdown Diva girls seem to still be working. There are reports from Jan 6. And Diva only posts validated actual meetups. So interesting.I think they pretty much leave it to the girls. And for that reason, I'm sure they're still open. Back during the initial lockdowns they were still functioning. Lot of the girls had scooted back to their home countries, but for those who were around, I think few of them were still working. (Not suggesting that either way is the right way to go during the pandemic).
On the Diva Page, if you check 'Now Available', it'll show who's working.
I think the only ones who really shut down are the legal, registered agencies. Like the one in Milton Keynes.
At the end of the day, Diva and the others just help get you in touch with girls. Like Adultwork with an operator on the other side who can guide you.
But of course, a with Covid and the new numbers, folks should stay safe.
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01-10-21, 05:46
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Hey all,
Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).
Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).
- end of May.
- end of July.
- end of October.
Any thoughts on the following.
- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).
- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?
- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?I'd go for the end of July. Summer and vaccinations will have brought cases and deaths way down and everything will be open as much as possible, as happened summer 2020 (despite no vaccinations.).
Girls have been working all the way through, perhaps maybe not the first little bit of the first lockdown. I'd say 90% you see on Adultwork are still working now, ditto a lot of the escort agencies.
Avoid Romanians. They're mostly all bait and switch and give shit service, or the girl in the pictures and give shit service. Be suspicious of Brazilians, Portuguese, Italians. At the cheaper end of the spectrum, they're mostly just undercover Romanians.
Steve 9696
01-11-21, 02:40
I'd go for the end of July. Summer and vaccinations will have brought cases and deaths way down and everything will be open as much as possible, as happened summer 2020 (despite no vaccinations.).
Girls have been working all the way through, perhaps maybe not the first little bit of the first lockdown. I'd say 90% you see on Adultwork are still working now, ditto a lot of the escort agencies.
Avoid Romanians. They're mostly all bait and switch and give shit service, or the girl in the pictures and give shit service. Be suspicious of Brazilians, Portuguese, Italians. At the cheaper end of the spectrum, they're mostly just undercover Romanians.Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.
Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.
The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.
Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.
Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.
The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.Fair. I spend most of my time in the UK at the cheaper end of the market, so have encountered plenty of bad Romanians, or at the higher-end, with English girls.
AlwaysOn2020
01-11-21, 12:33
Whoa. Hold on there....No bait and switch there.Exactly! Ro girls turn out to be a larger chunk of the working girl population in and around London so you tend to encounter far more bad apples. That being said, if you're smart about it and pick well reviewed Ro girls from agencies like Diva, you're most likely going to have have an amazing time. It's like saying I'm never going to go with Thais again because I've ended up having to meet a few who were never in the mood.
About Ro's posing as Brazilians etc. - I wasn't aware of this so not going to comment. May be true.
To the original question. My suggestion is that you go with Diva. I've tried multiple channels. By the time I had to leave London, Diva was the only one I was a regular with. So much so that I got the membership. Long story short, I can swear by them. Shortlist the girl that looks interesting, look at the reviews (Diva tends to be honest and keep the bad ones on too) and a then read up a few more on Adultwork. You're almost guaranteed to have an amazing time.
Another option to consider when in London (or indeed anywhere in the UK), is seeking.com. Lots of pros use it, some semi-pros and lots of 'good girls. ' (And the usual scammers / online only / want £2000 a month).
If you invest in the time and effort, pre-trip, you could have a tight little British 18/19/20 year old in your hotel room all night for £250-300. A lot of the girls will agree to BBFSCIP, BBCIA if that's your thing and you approach it correctly (don't treat them like working girls, don't use mongering / escort terms.).
Discovered it late in my latest stay in the UK and with tier restrictions and lockdowns, only managed to meet one girl. That one girl was worth the one month's membership I ended up paying for.
Marelobo Mex
01-12-21, 03:53
Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.
Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.
The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.I second this.
Flory was my absolute favorite teen girl of all my trips. Young, inexperienced and submissive.
I have had great and not great experiences with Romanians, but no different than any other group. Other truly memorable awesome Romanians.
Melty.
Lalibella.
Stefsia. Before she got implants.
Brinley.
MM.
I second this.
Flory was my absolute favorite teen girl of all my trips. Young, inexperienced and submissive.
I have had great and not great experiences with Romanians, but no different than any other group. Other truly memorable awesome Romanians.
Melty.
Lalibella.
Stefsia. Before she got implants.
Brinley.
MM.I third this.
The last girl I fucked in Europe (before the pandemic) was Fortune, a Romanian girl from Diva. She was a joy to be with.
Mermaid, Noleta, and Henny are also Romanian Diva girls, and they are among my best punts ever. Hell, if I could merge Henny (looks like a fashion model) and Mermaid (kisses like a devil) together, that might be my dream girl.
I've started putting together a list of Diva girls I plan to fuck within minutes of returning to London. I've added a few Russians (my new interest), but there will be plenty of Romanian girls, too.
...Hard to beat London though. It's like going to a high-end buffet...Yeah London can be good for online escorts, some perhaps overpriced. But to me online escorts can be hit and miss. I much prefer going to a bar or club and actually meeting the girls.
I suspect london prostitutes like how they have control online. They control the hourly rate. There is No club competetion. They control the market. For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York, Rockafellas etc offer a great vibrant atmosphere to meet and select some great girls. Theres a thrill to the chase there. In Dubai 3 to 400 us can be all night or 4 to 6 hrs anyway. You'd be hard to beat that in London. Even German red light districts can turn up some real gems. All those stairs in Frankfurt can be a test but often there can be gold at the end of the rainbow. Currently under Covid I'm stuck in NZ which I'm finding is good. Many NZ Girls have flown home done their isolation and turned up at brothels here. No Covid here. All brothels and stripclubs open and overflowing. All legal. I can't understand all these police busts in London and France. The girls are far safer in a club or brothel than as online escorts. Here if theres a immigration issue, Immigartion turn up not the Police. Though there are a quite a few online escorts as well. One problem is because we have such a small population theres little Auckland chatter online. The girls know who we are)) And we got this Admin that just deletes posts at random. 2020 was the year of the Chinese Year of the Bar. China should reimburse us for missed lady time. Thanks Nickc.
Mongerer88
01-14-21, 14:29
Yeah London can be good for online escorts, some perhaps overpriced. But to me online escorts can be hit and miss. I much prefer going to a bar or club and actually meeting the girls.
I suspect london prostitutes like how they have control online. They control the hourly rate. There is No club competetion. They control the market. For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York, Rockafellas etc offer a great vibrant atmosphere to meet and select some great girls. Theres a thrill to the chase there. In Dubai 3 to 400 us can be all night or 4 to 6 hrs anyway. You'd be hard to beat that in London. Even German red light districts can turn up some real gems. All those stairs in Frankfurt can be a test but often there can be gold at the end of the rainbow. Currently under Covid I'm stuck in NZ which I'm finding is good. Many NZ Girls have flown home done their isolation and turned up at brothels here. No Covid here. All brothels and stripclubs open and overflowing. All legal. I can't understand all these police busts in London and France. The girls are far safer in a club or brothel than as online escorts. Here if theres a immigration issue, Immigartion turn up not the Police. Though there are a quite a few online escorts as well. One problem is because we have such a small population theres little Auckland chatter online. The girls know who we are)) And we got this Admin that just deletes posts at random. 2020 was the year of the Chinese Year of the Bar. China should reimburse us for missed lady time. Thanks Nickc.It has nothing to do with safety. There are two intolerant groups in most parts of the world. The moralistic right-wingers who do not want to observe anything sexual, and the left-wingers who have been told that all sex workers are trafficked and are not actually intelligent enough to evaluate data and determine that isn't true. There may be a small number of moderately intelligent law-and-order types who believe that the cash earned by a small portion of the participants in the commercial sex trade fuel the drug epidemic, and they are willing to destroy the entire industry just to "cure" that small but legitimate defect.
Publicly-visible clubs and incall locations with multiple ladies are easy for these opponent groups to find and publicize. Online escorting, while less economically efficient and therefore more expensive, are less visible to the public and are the trend in many places, especially the USA With respect to independent escorts and sugar babies. Large multistate escort agencies in the USA Do not exist because their cash accumulations are a convenient target for federal law enforcement. Governments themselves are incapable of regulating brothels. Most women hate the byzantine and oppressive rules at the legal Nevada brothels and they are no longer popular with customers after the ease of Vegas escorts operating independently.
Forget about changing the minds of those on the far-left or the far-right. It is better to just coexist with them and let them live in a world where they don't know that the lady walking through the hotel or sitting at the dinner table is a happy hooker. The you. K. Of course isn't as ridiculous on this subject as the USA But neither country will ever be as open-minded as New Zealand.
AlwaysOn2020
01-24-21, 17:54
... For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York...Haha. Man you brought back some good memories. Dubai was always a good time. Moscow especially. Remember getting the table with bottle service sometime back in 2010. If I remember right it was less than 250 USD with a bottle of JD. Best part was being swarmed by the hottest ladies working that day. I guess they assumed we were loaded. Worth the money. Almost like opting for the VIP booth at Platinum Lace in London.
I wonder if Dubai is still the same. Haven't been there in over 8-9 years. Abu Dhabi was good too. Meeting Pinays at the club and bonding before heading back to your room used to almost always guarantee an amazing punt. Hope things haven't changed.
Only problem with the UAE is that it's illegal. Doesn't impact the number of women in the clubs but I'd hate to be locked up, especially in the Middle East. But I guess they'd never really enforce it. The tourists coming in bring in all the money.
I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.
I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.May just be a temporary move to protect the girls, under current Covid National Lockdown laws they can be fined.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home#meeting-other-people.
The main UK mongering site Adult Work has also blocked any feedback or reviews probably for the same reason.
May just be a temporary move to protect the girls, under current Covid National Lockdown laws they can be fined.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home#meeting-other-people.
The main UK mongering site Adult Work has also blocked any feedback or reviews probably for the same reason.Ah, that's a great point. I suppose it can be awkward to have reviews saying strangers visited you at a time when the city is supposed to be on lockdown.
Like all things Covid, I hope this is a temporary thing.
AlwaysOn2020
02-01-21, 15:28
...Like all things Covid, I hope this is a temporary thing.Yea, likely just a Covid move (hopefully) - to avoid any legal woes. Unfortunate. Funny enough, with Covid, in some ways it feels as though governments across the world are getting more restrictive by the day. I understand and appreciate what they may be trying to do with lockdowns, rules etc. - but from history. Once they get the freedom to restrict activities of the general population, they rarely let go off the privilege once the issue in hand has passed. Like spying on internet users in western democracies. Made sense post 9-11, I doubt it's ever going away. Hopefully no options for legal mongering don't get restricted.
Anyway, I digress.
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Marelobo Mex
02-02-21, 01:47
I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.Ata,
I am with you.
I used to look up the first review on a girl and see what year that was subtract that from the current year, and then add that number to her age.
It says she is 21, but she has 3 years of reviews, she is at least 24.
MM.
Another option to consider when in London (or indeed anywhere in the UK), is seeking.com. Lots of pros use it, some semi-pros and lots of 'good girls. ' (And the usual scammers / online only / want 2000 a month).
If you invest in the time and effort, pre-trip, you could have a tight little British 18/19/20 year old in your hotel room all night for 250-300. A lot of the girls will agree to BBFSCIP, BBCIA if that's your thing and you approach it correctly (don't treat them like working girls, don't use mongering / escort terms.).
Discovered it late in my latest stay in the UK and with tier restrictions and lockdowns, only managed to meet one girl. That one girl was worth the one month's membership I ended up paying for.I second this! I've had 2 SBs in London that were a great time. One was an overnight each time I saw her. She would send me nude pics when I was out of town and put everyting to the side whenever I came to town. I personally don't mind if a girl is a pro / semi-pro if the money is the same. A normal SB will be ok with 200-300 for the night. Most pros might not be cool with that. Doing the numbers. A normal date takes about 5 hours (drinks, foods, hookah, drinks, hotel, bang. For example), that means about 40-60 pounds per hour. Most pros will turn that down. They can't rush you or upcharge you and they have to perform well, as they get paid after the act and not before. For me seeking is my goto in London. I've heard to good things about Diva, so that's on the list a a viable backup.
RussianLover19
02-27-21, 08:38
Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.
But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.
And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.
Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.
So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.
(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).
PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz its 103 to 2. Lol.Hi to everyone on this forum! I am planning to visit london for the very first time most probably in May. I am a noob and only have little experience in new england area and the strip clubs. Could you please let me know if these two are still in diva and above all hows the incall scenes in london? Safe? LEO activitiy? TIA. I prefer busty blondes. Any leads would be appreciated.
Hi to everyone on this forum! I am planning to visit london for the very first time most probably in May. I am a noob and only have little experience in new england area and the strip clubs. Could you please let me know if these two are still in diva and above all hows the incall scenes in london? Safe? LEO activitiy? TIA. I prefer busty blondes. Any leads would be appreciated.Stick with the agencies as they are far more reliable. The better sites like Diva keep the list of girls current, if the site says that the girls are available that's it, when you call then you will find out if they are available.
May might be too early as lockdown will still be in effect although some restrictions will have been removed. Don't worry about law enforcement, prositution is not a crime, you just can't run a brothel so girls either work alone or 2 per apartment.
AlwaysOn2020
02-27-21, 15:35
Hi to everyone on this forum! I am planning to visit london for the very first time most probably in May... .Stick with the agencies. Diva is the way to go. On their website, key in "Now Available" in the search bar. There's a filter to show who's working. Also, the lady / ladies who handle the booking are super sweet. If you can't decide, let them know what you're looking for and they'll give your suggestion.
As for the rules, do you know where you'll be staying? If it's a private place (or Airbnb maybe?) there's little to no chance anyone is going to enforce restrictions. As for hotels, not sure what the policy is. In general I haven't come across any reports where folks have been harassed for mongering during the restrictions. Most / All of the working ladies provide incall too. Stay safe, of course.
And it definitely helps that prostitution is legal in the UK.
AlwaysOn2020
02-27-21, 16:03
So, looks like we're closer to the end of this miserable lockdown (hopefully).
Got me thinking, to all you fellow enthusiasts, of all the women you've met during your hobby in London, who has been your absolute favorite. Across agencies, spas, independents etc. Over the years. That one (or few) who absolutely blew your mind!
For me, it was at this home-spa in Hayes. She went by "YY" or "YaYa". The sex was fucking incredible and to top it off, her massage could put the certified pros to shame. But then, even without the massage, just the sex was out of the world. Met her multiple times over and it's with her that, for the first time in the hobby, I started taking up multi-hour sessions. Funny story. I recall drinking with with my colleagues at home one night and had to try hard to get them to leave just because she was all a I could think about. Ended up hiking 40 min to Hayes, got there at 1 and then spent the next 3 hours there.
It's funny how you meet these gems at places where you least expect it. The spa itself had mixed reviews, the girls you meet there were always a hit or miss. But YY. Man, just thinking about the experience makes my thoughts wobbly. I'll write down a detailed report soon.
Anyway, unfortunately, the spa shut down early last year, several weeks before the UK lockdown. I guess since she is Chinese, the mamasan knew what a shit show the pandemic was like in China. If I find any indicator in ads etc that they're open, I'll give you guys a shout so you can spam them and ask if YY is still around.
So, in all your years in the hobby, who's been that one who you cannot forget (in London)?
RussianLover19
02-27-21, 16:39
Stick with the agencies as they are far more reliable. The better sites like Diva keep the list of girls current, if the site says that the girls are available that's it, when you call then you will find out if they are available.
May might be too early as lockdown will still be in effect although some restrictions will have been removed. Don't worry about law enforcement, prositution is not a crime, you just can't run a brothel so girls either work alone or 2 per apartment.Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.
RussianLover19
02-27-21, 17:31
Stick with the agencies. Diva is the way to go. On their website, key in "Now Available" in the search bar. There's a filter to show who's working. Also, the lady / ladies who handle the booking are super sweet. If you can't decide, let them know what you're looking for and they'll give your suggestion.
As for the rules, do you know where you'll be staying? If it's a private place (or Airbnb maybe?) there's little to no chance anyone is going to enforce restrictions. As for hotels, not sure what the policy is. In general I haven't come across any reports where folks have been harassed for mongering during the restrictions. Most / All of the working ladies provide incall too. Stay safe, of course.
And it definitely helps that prostitution is legal in the UK.Well I would be staying year long and with family 😔 so have to really find a outcall where I can go to a providers residence or a strip club backroom fun if its a thing over there. Mostly looking for a quickie after ofc hours. Wham bam thank you mam type of encounters. These diva girls have their own flats?
AlwaysOn2020
02-27-21, 18:13
Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.I was able to find Mermaid on their page, not Fortune though. To be honest I haven't met either. But I've read raving reviews here and on other sites.
As for verification, there's little to none required. That's what I love about London. I lived there for about a year with a studio to myself. I wish I could get back there soon.
Anyway, no verification. Diva is top notch. Babylon used to be good too. But I've had good experiences with them but one of the girls with whom I had a great time turned out to be terrible for another. Never / Rarely heard anything bad about Diva. Most of these girls work across agencies too. Some will be on Diva, Babylon, Peachy and Barracuda. And if Diva for example does not have real (not brushed up) pics / videos of the girl, you may end up finding them on the other website. With a little bit of effort you'll be able to see exactly who you're going to meet.
Also, sometimes the rates for the same girl may vary across agencies. Same girl, same experience, different price.
As for strip clubs, no clue. I did go to Platinum Lace with colleagues but I thought it was a rip-off. To be honest, I think strip clubs in general are a rip off. Why pay a couple hundred quid for someone to dance naked for you while these beauties at the agencies will treat you like a king for the same price.
AlwaysOn2020
02-27-21, 18:16
.. These diva girls have their own flats?Yea, most if not all girls provide incall in their apartments. In reality, you may find a few who offer just incall & won't come to your place. That's more likely.
Incall sounds like the way to go for you.
London's amazing! Hope you have an incredible stay.
Marelobo Mex
02-28-21, 02:56
Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.I brought a second phone with my monger name on it and I connect with Diva through Whatsapp. It worked great.
MM.
Well I would be staying year long and with family 😔 so have to really find a outcall where I can go to a providers residence or a strip club backroom fun if its a thing over there. Mostly looking for a quickie after ofc hours. Wham bam thank you mam type of encounters. These diva girls have their own flats?Go with Diva escorts. There are no legal problems with prostitution in London so there's no need for verification.
Find a girl you like on the Diva website, contact the agency, set up the day and time, and then go to the girl's flat using the instructions you'll receive. She will greet you at the door and let you into her flat. You will give her money. She will let you fuck her. That's it.
So, in all your years in the hobby, who's been that one who you cannot forget (in London)?I can't pick one. The first Romanian I fucked in London was named "Tina". She was with Babylon Escorts at the time (she's no longer list). Amazing blowjob.
The vast majority of my mongering in London has been with Diva escorts. Henny (who has been on holiday for a long time so she may no longer turn tricks) is my all round "I could wife this girl" best fuck. Fortune was the most playful and fun. Mermaid was the best kisser and a total freak. Noleta probably had the best overall body, but she had breast implants put in which I think were unnecessary.
RussianLover19
03-01-21, 23:44
Go with Diva escorts. There are no legal problems with prostitution in London so there's no need for verification.
Find a girl you like on the Diva website, contact the agency, set up the day and time, and then go to the girl's flat using the instructions you'll receive. She will greet you at the door and let you into her flat. You will give her money. She will let you fuck her. That's it.You guys are great!
Steve 9696
03-02-21, 01:13
I can't pick one. The first Romanian I fucked in London was named "Tina". She was with Babylon Escorts at the time (she's no longer list). Amazing blowjob.
The vast majority of my mongering in London has been with Diva escorts. Henny (who has been on holiday for a long time so she may no longer turn tricks) is my all round "I could wife this girl" best fuck. Fortune was the most playful and fun. Mermaid was the best kisser and a total freak. Noleta probably had the best overall body, but she had breast implants put in which I think were unnecessary.Funny that Atanion overlap so much. I've had three of his four girls. Like him I can't pic one but damn they are all good. Some best on planet not just in London.
Best ass on planet earth = Fortune.
Best DFK on planet earth = Mermaid.
Best BBBJ on planet earth = Rivetta.
Best smile in London. Top five worldwide = Fortune.
Best large tits on planet earth = Kendall.
Horniest wildcat in London = Anna (Olina Escorts).
Most satisfying GFE in London = Cambria (ymmv).
Best all around package in London = Melty.
TheGreat2017
03-03-21, 16:05
Hi guys,
I am a student here in London. Hence I don't have a lot of money to spend on Diva or anything. Please if anyone knows any cheap escorts, please let me know. Thank you.
Steve 9696
03-04-21, 00:13
Hi guys,
I am a student here in London. Hence I don't have a lot of money to spend on Diva or anything. Please if anyone knows any cheap escorts, please let me know. Thank you.I don't know what you mean by low priced. But unless you are satisfied with fuglies strongly recommend not dredging around adúltwork. Likely to be disappointed. Best low end agency I know of is House of Divine. 70€/ halfhour. Never used them but others say it's a good low end option.
I guess the cheapest option in London is the Soho walk up's. Not sure how many of them are functional now!
There are lots of reviews on net, you can find, also make a map you should be able to walk around and find the working one.
They used to start with £20 for 15 minutes!! Just a bang! And you have to pay extra if you choose other services based on what the girl offers.
Its been a while I have been to those places, so I would suggest to do some home work!
Hi guys,
I am a student here in London. Hence I don't have a lot of money to spend on Diva or anything. Please if anyone knows any cheap escorts, please let me know. Thank you.
Prelude141
03-04-21, 13:16
I guess the cheapest option in London is the Soho walk up's. Not sure how many of them are functional now!
There are lots of reviews on net, you can find, also make a map you should be able to walk around and find the working one.
They used to start with 20 for 15 minutes!! Just a bang! And you have to pay extra if you choose other services based on what the girl offers.
Its been a while I have been to those places, so I would suggest to do some home work!I don't advise the Soho walk up. Yes it's cheap but you get why you pay for. I have spent a day there 2 years ago knocking a the doors to see how the girls look like and their service and I have done only 1 punt at the end and it was not good at all. Girls, places, vibe, all of that was disgusting.
There where some good looking ones in Soho!! At least 10 years ago!! Yes its a long time.
I knew at least 2 -3 , who was hot like the ones you see in diva and they knew their value to!!
Remember 20 £ was 15 minutes for just a bang!!
Its also an experience!! I would suggest in mongering we should try everything. And find which option is for us!!
Each people has different taste.
I guess in COVID situation is very unlikely these premises are open!! Also in recent year it seems many of them got closed, as per many posts by punders!
I should say, now a days I stick to diva or some known profiles in adult work!
I don't advise the Soho walk up. Yes it's cheap but you get why you pay for. I have spent a day there 2 years ago knocking a the doors to see how the girls look like and their service and I have done only 1 punt at the end and it was not good at all. Girls, places, vibe, all of that was disgusting.
Even Prior to COVID, the rules in London changed for strip clubs. No touching of the women, and the women won't touch you below the belt!
Yes its gone to dogs!! Any one who has travel across UK, would suggest Manchester!! The cheapest and friendly strip club I have seen is there.
£10 for a lap dance! And even the mongering situation is cheaper, you can check the Manchester forum!
Saying all these, given current situation none of these will be open. The only option left is the escorts! At the moment.
Hope it helps!!
Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.
Even Prior to COVID, the rules in London changed for strip clubs. No touching of the women, and the women won't touch you below the belt!
Yes its gone to dogs!!...Were strip clubs ever great in London? Thirty years ago I used to head down to Old Street where there were a cluster of strip clubs; just a bunch of men and a few naked women walking around collecting tips, no touching.
SkyPirate2
03-08-21, 14:59
Even Prior to COVID, the rules in London changed for strip clubs. No touching of the women, and the women won't touch you below the belt!
Yes its gone to dogs!! Any one who has travel across UK, would suggest Manchester!! The cheapest and friendly strip club I have seen is there.
10 for a lap dance! And even the mongering situation is cheaper, you can check the Manchester forum!
Saying all these, given current situation none of these will be open. The only option left is the escorts! At the moment.
Hope it helps!!Not sure when the last time you went to the Manchester clubs Mike but the local council have changed the rules.
*No intentional physical contact between performers and customers is allowed at any time. Before, during or after the performance, with the exception of leading a customer by the hand to, or from, an area permitted for performances of sexual entertainment in advance of, or following, a performance.
*Performers are not allowed to simulate sexual acts, use 'inappropriate, lewd, suggestive or sexually-graphic language', touch other performers in a sexual manner or use 'sex articles' such as sex toys.
*Customers must remain seated during performances and no photography is allowed.
* Performers are not allowed to meet, or have further contact with, customers outside of the premises.
They even have lines drawn in the floor to show how close they can be. The fore runner of social distancing!
AmericanPi
03-08-21, 15:24
My worst mongering story ever was in London. It was awful. Decade ago went to Soho walk-up. It was a classic clip joint, to a T. Lured in, no other customers, girl turned on me, huge bill presented to me, surrounded by thugs demanding payment. The works.
The one good thing I did was when they tried to scare me by saying they would call the police, I repeatedly said "yes, definitely call the police. They'll help us sort this out. " Shocking. They didn't call the police. Anyways 400 dollars later and shaken up I was allowed to leave. Worst. Ever.
Now London is my favorite destination in the world because I have more coin in my pocket, love a hot escort, and London has the hottest that I know of.
Were strip clubs ever great in London? Thirty years ago I used to head down to Old Street where there were a cluster of strip clubs; just a bunch of men and a few naked women walking around collecting tips, no touching.
The last time I was in a Manchester Strip club was in 2017 Dec. I found Long legs, cheap and a better option to start the evening, and then head to the Brothels.
As I am not a Strip Club fan (other than the ones in Colombia!
That is a news to me, the new rules!! I am looking forward to see how this will be once these facilities will be open by June.
Its coming to a point, to have a good time we have to head to Spain or Germany!! And if we have much ££ to Swiss!
Hmm.
Not sure when the last time you went to the Manchester clubs Mike but the local council have changed the rules.
*No intentional physical contact between performers and customers is allowed at any time. Before, during or after the performance, with the exception of leading a customer by the hand to, or from, an area permitted for performances of sexual entertainment in advance of, or following, a performance.
*Performers are not allowed to simulate sexual acts, use 'inappropriate, lewd, suggestive or sexually-graphic language', touch other performers in a sexual manner or use 'sex articles' such as sex toys.
*Customers must remain seated during performances and no photography is allowed.
* Performers are not allowed to meet, or have further contact with, customers outside of the premises.
They even have lines drawn in the floor to show how close they can be. The fore runner of social distancing!
The last time I was in a Manchester Strip club was in 2017 Dec. I found Long legs, cheap and a better option to start the evening, and then head to the Brothels.
As I am not a Strip Club fan (other than the ones in Colombia!
That is a news to me, the new rules!! I am looking forward to see how this will be once these facilities will be open by June.
Its coming to a point, to have a good time we have to head to Spain or Germany!! And if we have much to Swiss!
Hmm.Interesting posts. I abandoned lap dancing about 3 years ago. Just don't really see the point of seeing it all but not being able to buy. Frustrating. Great on a night out with the lads after a few beers but when in serious mongering mode it can lead you to being overly horny and then accepting low quality in brothels to bust the nut.
I've written in this forum many times that unless you are a big fan of escorts, London is a brilliant city to visit as a tourist, but awful as a monger. The escort scene in London is amongst the best and most varied in the world. And it has improved a lot since some of the sites (Diva etc) have started showing selfies. That removes a little of bait and switch. Particularly if the girl has distinguishing features e. G. Tattoos which mean not possible to fake.
In the UK. If you want to select from a line up (as I do) Manchester is your best option. 6/7 brothels and no issues with LE.
Cosmopolitan undoubtedly the best.
As for Spain, Germany and Switzerland- you're right. German FKKs. For me still the best mongering experience in the world, long sunny days by a pool with over 100 naked women, food, gyms, saunas, steams, games, . Just the best. Spanish clubs are great fun. Have reported in many of the Spanish forums. Switzerland is just German FKKs at an expensive level. For me, not worth the extra. Look forward to returning to all of the above!!
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