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[Merlin Magician]

Hello, mates and fellow Punters! I am proud to be the first one to post here in the new forum.

This month, be listening to the ITN radio news series out of London on the special reports on Soho. I am interviewed on air about the beautiful ladies there. If it sounds like a Texan talking, it's me.

[LBS]

Gentlemen, I'm moving to London in a month for a while and would appreciate any input on where to find girls of Indian origin in or around London. There's something about them that I find very irresistable. Thanks.

[Merlin Magician]

LBS,

I believe this lady is of India extract.

She has excellent revierws in *********. I plan on giving her a ring when in London next July.

http://www.acemassage.net/debbie/debbie.html

[bearman123]

Merlin, I'm going to be in London in about 3wks. Can you give me any advice on the local scene. Ive been to Soho before and did have a good session or two with the models. But what else do you suggest? Thanks in advance for any help.

[Merlin Magician]

bearman,

do try on duck lane the cottage and one blore court lesgirls blore house in soho. both have websites you can peruse.

also, if you wish a bit less of a rushed session, try the models in shepherd's market area. usually prices are higher than soho, but the time is much longer. this is the area north west of the intersection of park lane and buckingham road. just wander the back streets there and you will see plenty of little cardboard signs.

bon appetit'.

one word of caution and i cannot scream loud enough about this: "stay the hell out of the clubs and peeps in soho" also, never ever deal with street girls in soho, no matter how enticing the deal. if you are approached by anyone on the street, just be assured it's a ready ripoff. you may have more fun standing atop one of those double decker busses and throwing your cash at strangers on the street.

[BrendanGooch]

Hey Guys,

A few weeks ago I tried an escort ageny.

I chose an italian girl that looked great in the photo, however when I went to meet her, she didnt turn out to be the girl on the photo, same girl but not as attractive !!.

Have to say she was pleasant but not what I expected !!.

Should have saved my money for amsterdam !!

[BrendanGooch]

merlin,

i know what you are going to say but i thought i would run it by you.

there is an article on the internet about the last remaining peep show in london at soho's brewer street.

i know there are lots of rip off joints where u end up loosing all your wallet, but my quesiton is this peep show i mentioned is actually authentic and they charge £1 to view naked/semi naked girls in cubicles.

is this true ? can you confirm of its existence ?

reason i asking is i love peep shows and like to masturbate whilst wathicng a woman undress, any feedback would be appreciated,

thanks

[Lobo]

Merlin,

Very good info so far.

I'll be in London in the next few weeks and was wondering what street action is like. Any thoughts?

Lobo

[Merlin Magician]

I really do not recommend street action especially in SOHO ----NEVER NEVER!!,

But, if Iwas going to try street girls, you may look in the areas by Bethnal Green and south of Tower Hill in White Chapel at and around the Ten Bells Pub, there are many to choose from and most quite pretty too.

There are reputedly many street girls in the Paddington area on Praed and east on London St. on Sussex Gardens and on toward Hyde park.

Also, Never ever even consider trying street girls in and around King's Cross. King's Cross is worse than Soho for scumbags.

One other helpful hint is to obtain a McCoy's Guide in any bookshop in London. You can order one from Amazon.UK for about 20 bucks. The parlor reviews are very good and parlors are a safe bet.

[Merlin Magician]

Brendan, I know of the place you refer to. Buster Cherry intentionally went in there in December and he reported to me, that just as he expected, they tried to pull crap on him and tried to extort 300 quid off him just for 5 minutes conversation and 2 drinks with a real smelly and utterly ugly skank.

Two of the gorillas tried to make him go with them to an ATM.

Buster meekly agreed and when they got about 50 yards away from the club, Buster, (a retired Seal instructor) did his best to inflict internal injuries on both. He managed to kick both in the face (while they were standing of course) and then proceeded to break ribs and other long bones. Besides massive dental damage, One had a lacerated spleen and the other suffered a cracked liver, both needed surgery, according to one of Buster's lady friends who is an ER nurse at the hospital.

Sooooo don't even think about it.

[BrendanGooch]

thanks merlin for your thoughts on my post, i believe everything that you have said.

i guess this article at http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/ssclip.htm

is totally out of date. has the peep show been taking over by gangs of thugs or somthing ?. why does the article have an interview with the manager of the peep show ?.

if anyone else knows more about this place please let me know.

what are the age range of the models in soho, which are the best streets to check out for the good looker ?

thanks again for all your advice so far.

[ericp]

Does anybody know where to pick up amateur (freelance) girls in London? In other words very easy and horny local girls who just want to have fun for the night like they do in Rio, and make a liitle money if they wish.? I'm just going to London for 2 days then I'm off to Barcelona so I'd rather save money for that rather than waist it in London.

[ericp]

or cute Indian girls. I'll pay more for indian.

[BrendanGooch]

Ericp,

London does have some nice looking girls but they are very expensive compared to european counterparts. There are some bars, such as the pink pussy which is above hilton hotel, all the girls there are game, but you might need to spend at least 150-200 pounds on drinks with them before u can take them away with you for the night.

Maybe Merlin can advise you better on this..

If I was in your shoes, I'd stick to paying for female services in mainland europe.

Originally posted by ericp
or cute Indian girls. I'll pay more for indian.

[babbelman]

gday fellow pork swordsman,

good to see BRENDAN AND MERLIN offering good advice on a city which is way behind on the sexploits we are so used to in europe.

i have given up on getting action in london until the other day, i just had to get laid. of course i dont entertain SOHO so i friend of mine suggested an agency, again not my thing because you pay top dollar and they dont swallar, if you know what i mean... i gave in and made the call found a bust thai/malay girl which is a rarety, in cleveland street w1. she charged me for 150 for the hour, i was not expecting what was about to happen. usually i pay my money get average head, two or three positions blow my bolt, or stick my finger up there arse.. this time it was all different, this girl was unreal, she took me for a bubble bath, where she rimmed me , and bbbj till i spraying her face with jiz. and she wanted more, i wasnt even in the bedroom yet. when she showered me off, i was reasdy for more she showed me to the room , where she began rimming me again and bbbj, this time i was more restrained , and held out, i checked the clock i had been there 45 mins, she then oiled my pen15 and stared slip between her thighs no rain coat, she slid up along it with her pussy and i couldnt belive it was happening , i flicked clit, and she came all over it. my face was a picture... i checked the clock i had been there 1 hr 5 mins, i finally shagged her done my muck and left..

if you want some of the same

http://www.agency-provocateur.com/natasha.htm

over to you!!!!!!!!!

[BrendanGooch]

As I mentioned in a previous post I rented an escort from fine dates. U can check out the girls on the web page.

I went for this italian girl she looked totally awsome in the pic, however when I met her she was average and was not worth the 250 quid I paid (rather have paid 150 )

I have to say she had a nice personality and did everything like mouth to mouth kissing, pussy eating, even bottom fucking body licking.

Can anyone tellme more abotu SOHO walks, do u get foreign girls there ?

[shamnas]

EricP - Which Hilton are you referring to in your msg below?



Originally posted by BrendanGooch
Ericp,

London does have some nice looking girls but they are very expensive compared to european counterparts. There are some bars, such as the pink pussy which is above hilton hotel, all the girls there are game, but you might need to spend at least 150-200 pounds on drinks with them before u can take them away with you for the night.

Maybe Merlin can advise you better on this..

If I was in your shoes, I'd stick to paying for female services in mainland europe.

[Lobo]

I was reading some of the old archive and someone mentioned the Shepherd Market area as being an alternative to Soho for walkups. I'll be staying near there and with all the warnings about Soho, I was looking to check it out.

Any comments?

[Jimbehr2000]

Could someone please give an update on how to find the models of Soho and if they are available in the evening. Thank you.

[DDW]

to try and answer a few questions and points:

1) soho: i wouldn't bother. the girls are imported from the balkans and moldova. you are pretty likely to get ripped off. but if you want to, go to wardour street and look around. you'll see small doors with staircases leading up and signs saying "model".

2) other than the raymond shows don't go to any in soho. there are loads of clip joints there as others have described.

3) in the uk you don't get good peep shows, just ripped of. go to amsterdam.

4) street girls are dangerous. most are on drugs and have pimps who will happily mug you. it's also highly illegal for you and the police do arrest guys every night.

5) i think the best are either the escorts or the massage parlours. you can buy the mccoy guide for massage parlours as someone else suggests (£10) or you can buy "what's on" for about £2. mccoy gives reviews and opinions but what's on gives escorts.

my favourite massage is steam & sun near euston station (0207 388 8153). it's £20 to get in and £80 1/2hr in the room. after 7 there are about 15 girls to choose from, mixture of nationalities, blondes/brunettes/black/thai.

happy huntin'

[Jimbehr2000]

Thanks fro the info. I'll definitely stay away from the shows in Soho. Models from the Balkans doesn't sound so bad. I'll try to check out Wardour Street models.

[CBGBConnisur]

The doors that say "models" in Soho are legit sources for sex in London. Its completely legit and the average cost of suck and fuck costs 25 Pounds Sterling. Most women average bettween 5-6 on looks. If you want better looking women you are better off visiting the European continent, Holland, Germany, Denmark, Czech Republic, Spain and France have better looking hookers available than the UK and the prices are lower in these countries.

[Merlin Magician]

Jimbehr:

Listen to CBGB, he is most correct.

But I do warn you about the girls from the Balkans as they may have a nasty ass tempered Albanian gangster pimp nearby and she may be enslaved. Be wary of eastern bloc girls also; same situation

Once more: You can shop the various apartments, if you don't like what you see, go to the next one that catches your eye. The girls expect this, so don't feel obligated to go on in if you feel uncomfortable. Chances are, if she is a Brit or French, you are safe enough.

[Jimbehr2000]

Again thanks for some great info. I'll do the models for sure. I'm also reading about The Cottage and Blore House. Price is something like 60 GBP for 30 minutes. I may visit Blore . Do the girls expect a tip at Blore or Cottage? I'm not looking for FS but everything else would make me happy. I'm also going to Norway which appears to be terrible for the type of action we enjoy. I won't spend $200-300 US no matter how good looking the woman. Guess I'm spoiled by my visits to SE Asia. For that much money I get get a "10" here in Los Angeles. There is very little info on Norway on the internet.

[CBGBConnisur]

Jim, if you want really beautiful women even better looking than those 200-300 dollar "10"s that you get in Los Angeles, I would suggest visiting Amsterdam instead of London, its where all the British guys go for fun.

[Lobo]

Went to Shepherd's Market last night. There are a few "models" around. I ended up at 17A Market Mews despite the former post. The girl was pretty sexy. I went to the model on the first floor (there's one on the second too). I think she was eastern european. I paid 45 pounds for half and half (although she charges 60). Will check out Soho and Ten Bell's Pub later in the week...

Lobo

[Jimbehr2000]

Let me say that porn stars and aspiring actresses are available here for $300-$500 but I've never done one. American women look good but they're a pain in the ass. Or arse as you would say. I go to SE Asia every year and let off some steam. But I will definitely do Amsterdam. I've been there often and know the scene there. I'm spending a few days in Norway and London first. You guys complain about London but I hear Norway is really awful for this hobby. And now one last question. Do the models operate late at night?

[CBGBConnisur]

Jimbehr, I suggest you visit a German FKK or a Dutch brothel and then see if you can say "American women look good" with a straight face. Maybe one in every 10 American women are actually attractive, there just seems to be an oversupply of fat cows in the States. In Europe there is an oversupply of hot women. Compared to European women, American women are not all that I know because I lived on both sides of the pond, and the European women simply rule. 300-500 Dollars is fucken extortion!!

[BrendanGooch]

Guys,

I know this should go in another section but I have to tell u I spent 4 days in Bosnia (where the women outnumber the men 8 to 1 ).

Its very cheap overthere and the girls are absolutely stunning, most speak broken english and you can take a girl out for night on a date and fuck her for the whole night for 300 DM ( about 100 GDP). Its so cheap, u can pick up girls at clubs and bars !! so easy, I am going back in one month find a nice girlfriend.

I screwed two gorgeous looking girls one 18 year old brunette and a 21 year old blonde both with gorgeous bodies.

I also spent 3 days in Croatia, the girls again are out of this world althought they are much more expensive to fuck.

[CBGBConnisur]

Brendan, how safe is it though in Bosnia and Croatia? Isn't there still fighting going on over there? 300DM for an all nighter? Sounds like a good deal but I'm not too sure about safety.

[Lobo]

Just a note of thanks to everyone who has warned against going into the clubs in SoHo. They are very enticing with the sexy girls out front. I fear I would have gone in if it hadn't been for the warnings.

I checked out the models in SoHo, but I really do prefer Shepherd's Market. SM was unhurried, cleaner, more relaxed and the girls seemed more eager to please. It's also much less crazy on the street which I prefer.

Didn't have a chance to go to Ten Bell's Pub - maybe next time.

[CBGBConnisur]

London is a shithole, it has to be the dirtiest city in Europe, man and the food is nasty. And the people are nasty too, it makes New York look like Sesame Street. Bad women, bad food, high prices, I remember the scene in the end of that Brad Pitt movie a when the customs agent says "Anything to declare?", the guy says "Yeah, don't go to England!" I agree I ain't ever going to spend my hard earned money to go to that shithole. Viva la France!!!

[BrendanGooch]

Hi CBGBConnisur,

Dont believe the propaganda you might here about Croatia and Serbia, both the Serbs and the Bosnians want to forget about what happened during the war and want to get on with thier lives

Croatia is very safe now !!, its a tourist resort, especially Zagreb, you will find all nationalities there, americans, germans etc. So dont be afraid of doing there for a good time .
I found the city of Ben Ja Luuker in Serbia, very safe, it helps alot if you if have contacts in the republic, who know the areas, clubs, bars to take you to find girls for pleasure.

Like any city if your not careful and they see u as an outsider you can get mugged, shot, knifed etc. The serbian girls have high cheek bones and nicely curved bodies, there are two varieties of women those who will go with you if you can spend money on them and those who are very nice for long term relationships..

For the equivalent of just over 100 GDP I took a girl out for drinks went to a night club and took her home to fuck in my bed for the whole night.

I have fallen in love the culture of the country and the women, they are not really vikings, as us westerners would believe.

I am in contact with half dozen serbian girls via email that I plan to meet up with next month for some more fun.

They have some very good bars and night clubs overthere which rival london !! and the women are better looking then you'll find in amsterdam.

If u plan to go there, invest in a good serbian.croation linguphone tape..


Originally posted by CBGBConnisur
Brendan, how safe is it though in Bosnia and Croatia? Isn't there still fighting going on over there? 300DM for an all nighter? Sounds like a good deal but I'm not too sure about safety.

[Merlin Magician]

GBGB:

Did I forget to tell you not to try the jellied eel, pulverised English peas, and bubble and squeak? I'll fight anybody who says "spotted dick" is bad stuff tho.

[AnExpat]

Guys,

Can someone please shed some detailed info on the Shepeard Market's & Market Mews area?

Thanks.

[BrendanGooch]

Hey Guys,


Just curious who has used escort agencies in London.

What prices did u pay and were you satisfied with what you paid for. Which escort agencies would you rate as the best in london ?.

Which girls make give the best value for money, foreign or english girls ?

[Farty]

Originally posted by Men who Pay
Hi I'm an assistant producer for a television production company in the UK. We are making a documentary for Channel 4 about the UK sex industry, and why more men in the last 10 years are paying for sex than ever before. We are looking for men who are willing to talk to us about why they pay for sex. If you woud like further information or would be interested in taking part, then email us at menwhopay@ricochetsouth.co.uk
You guys made the stripper thing didn't you..
Is Amanda going to be meeting guys to ask them about their sexual habits??

[Banana Joe]

Originally posted by Men who Pay
[...] why more men in the last 10 years are paying for sex than ever before.

It's the inflation, stupid! ;-)

Banana Joe

[BrendanGooch]

Guys,

I must have spent a fortune on paying for sex, the thing is I am rather shy when it comes to trying to chat up women.

I have tried hard to get on with english girls but all they do is play mind games with me. I went to croatia and serbia for a vacation and had a wonderful time overthere with women, who were warm and friendly.

English girls seem to be rude and very cold towards me, I am good looking guys, and it hurts inside that one day I shall be old and not have had the pleasure of a relationship with a woman.

I really cant figure out how some of these repulsive looking guys always manage to get the girls ? Why is this ?

I get really depressed about this somtimes and really dont know who to chat to about this. If I talk to colleagues who I go out to drink with they will think I am some wierdo.

I would really appreciate some advice int his area.

[Buster Cherry]

Brendan, just stick with the pay for play ladies you'll be much better off. That is unless you are looking to have a bunch of kids. Not many marriages or relationships last very long and you'll just wind up paying a lot of child support and some other poor asshole is raising your kids.

Besides paying for pussy is a whole lot cheaper than maintaining a girlfriend or wife. And..... you get to choose what you fuck; not be stuck with some worthless shitbag skank with a fish cannery between her legs.

Gimme a good ole ho anyday.

[Merlin Magician]

Buster is dead-on right. I've had many a good relationship with many of the hookers I've met over the years. I've never been very good at maintining a "straight woman" realtionship anyway. I guess I speak the language well and and I also empathize and identify more with the prostitutes.

Anyway, there' s no silly ass head games with a hooker; Hookers are usually very straightforward and honest with no hidden language or bullshit and you don't waste all your damn time and money with a hit or miss deal.

[BrendanGooch]

buster cherry/Merlin Magic,

Thanks for your advice, sorry to have brought this subject up, its
just I was feeling rather down in the dumps yesterday about
everything.

I might consider moving to mainland europe, as I find the english in general ( not all of them ) rather rude and nasty.

I guess that Donald Trumpet was right he remarked "for every relationship you have with a woman every woman is a *****". U pay for you get. I guess I am being a "fairy tale guy".

[Merlin Magician]

Oh, and BTW, Brendan, I was also very depressed about this for years until I figured it all out.

"Oh, if I only knew then what I know now...."

Mainland Europe may not be a bad bet to move to. However, given my preference, it would be Australia or New Zealand. The people there are unlike any in the world with the exception of Ireland. Of all the cultures in the world, the People of Oz are my favorite next to the Irish and the Lebanese.

[ClassicPianist]

just to repeat the warnings about the peep and strip shows in soho which have slipped onto page 3 - don't even think about making an enquiry let alone go in or else you'll be relieved of a few hundred pounds in a matter of minutes. complaints to the police are futile as no criminal offence has been committed and in central london they have bigger fish to target their limited resources.

but there is one legitimate establishment for those who want to watch - sunset strip in dean street which has been in existence for decades where it costs £15 for entry and there's a bar for alcoholic beverages at pub prices. patrons can stay as long as they want and re-entry is permissible. there are normally about 6 girls averaging about 7-9 on the attractive scale during the hour and whilst tipping is welcome, there is no hassle for any additional outlay.

for those who want a bit of action in soho, walk ups are very safe to visit in terms of secuirty though a lottery in terms of quality of service but there is the occasional gem to be found who will give heart and soul and take her time for the basic £20. if you can afford to gamble then go for it but be prepared for those - in my opinion in the minority - who want to get rid of you asap. the remainder are those ladies who provide a good honest no frills service at minimal prices. many are eastern european or oriental under a variety of guises but they will make you feel welcome and give you the relief that you're seeking. be aware that the police have been known to make raids for immigration violations and while may very well be embarassing from a client's viewpoint, remember that you haven't committed any offence through partaking these services.

if you want quality then you'll need to go into the escort bracket many of whom cater for the incall market with apartments in the central london area. entry level is in the region of £150-200 per hour nowadays but standards will vary enormously as in every other sector of this industry - remember that the most expensive is not always the best.

the bottom line is that london may not be among the best location for paid sex but it's a long way from the worse if you know where to look. if you find yourself in the city and looking for a bit of action then you can have a wonderful time if you keep your wits about you.

[Jimbehr2000]

Well folks I finally visited a few models in Soho today and have to say I was fairly impressed. Met a nice Asian and a Romanian and had a good time with both.Most of the action was on Peter St. with only a very few elsewhere in Soho. The quantity was less than I thought but the quality was good overall. Had a great time with the Asian and went looking for another Asian but couldn't find one. My new Asian friend is off tomorrow so I hope I can find another one in Soho. Damn my legs are tired from climbing those f'king stairs.

[CBGBConnisur]

britain is a great country for regular tourism but as far as it being a sex monger's paradise, it has a very long way to go. anyway this country never had a good reputation when it came to sex or love, the divorce rate here is almost double that of france or germany, and unlike other europeans this country can be really puritanical almost like the us. you're better off across the channel in holland, belgium, or germany where prices are also a fraction of what you would pay in the uk. pianist, 250 pounds is too much bloody money for those 'parties', i could find much lower prices in germany in the many fkk clubs rep001tered around the country and get complete uninhibited service whenever i want. if you want better sex with englishwomen, australia is your best bet, but its still not as good as europe or south america.

[BrendanGooch]

Hey Guys,

I was in SOHO on saturday night around 2-00 pm in the night, we not to far from Raymonds Bar (that strip place ). When two jamaiicans walked up and asked us whether we wanted women.

I replied "where"

They replied " The flat overthere there are two italian women"

I said " What do you get out of this"

Replied " A tip"

We declined and moved on, do you think this was a rip off scam ? i.e they lead us into the appartment then mug us ?

[Merlin Magician]

Brendan; you done right. You avoided one of the oldest cons in Soho. Yes you were probably targets of a ripoff or a potential mugging or robbery.

Besides, pussy is so damn cheap in Soho flats, at 20 quid, there is not much room for a "tip" anyway.

Too bad they did not try on Buster, he loves to crack skulls in Soho. Of course, they have to make the first attempt, after that, it is all over.

[BrendanGooch]

Merlin Magic,

Thanks ! for your response, its important that everyone is aware of these simple con tricks. The fact of the matter is I noticed alot of drunken foreigners that night who had ventured into the same area and were being approached by jamaicans asking if they wanted "cheap women ". God knows what happened to them.

Guys BEWARE OF THESE CON TRICKS !!!, stick to the models in the appartments.

A friend of mine has a father who works for a strip club called the WindMill in SOHO anyone been there ?

[LotsaFun]

Originally posted by BrendanGooch
Guys,

IEnglish girls seem to be rude and very cold towards me, I am good looking guys, and it hurts inside that one day I shall be old and not have had the pleasure of a relationship with a woman.

I really cant figure out how some of these repulsive looking guys always manage to get the girls ? Why is this ?

I get really depressed about this somtimes and really dont know who to chat to about this. If I talk to colleagues who I go out to drink with they will think I am some wierdo.

I would really appreciate some advice int his area.


Consider the following approach:
Don't be a nice guy when it comes to Brit and American Women. They're in need of "entertainment" as in be a cocky and funny guy, bust their chops in a teasing and humorous way, and keep them flustered. If they can't walk all overy you they'll chase after you.!!
laf

[manon]

Originally posted by BrendanGooch
Guys,

I must have spent a fortune on paying for sex, the thing is I am rather shy when it comes to trying to chat up women.

I have tried hard to get on with english girls but all they do is play mind games with me. I went to croatia and serbia for a vacation and had a wonderful time overthere with women, who were warm and friendly.

English girls seem to be rude and very cold towards me, I am good looking guys, and it hurts inside that one day I shall be old and not have had the pleasure of a relationship with a woman.

I really cant figure out how some of these repulsive looking guys always manage to get the girls ? Why is this ?

I get really depressed about this somtimes and really dont know who to chat to about this. If I talk to colleagues who I go out to drink with they will think I am some wierdo.

I would really appreciate some advice int his area.

Hey Brendan

I spent a long time living in the UK, ended up marrying a woman from the continent who I met there. Most of the women I dated in the UK were not English (one or two, but not a lot).

Don't let the British thing get you down. They think a lot like US women, money, money, bullshit. That don't mean there is no good thing to be had from marriage. I have two young kids, and a good marriage and it was worth the wait. And yes, I play, discretely, now and then (that's why I'm here, right) but mostly that's unnecessary. (But even I couldn't eat caviare EVERY day and you have to acknowledge and deal with the fact that men and women are SO differently wired.) And I get a lot of other good things out of it too.

Man, the crazy thing is I know a lot of really good single women, in the thirties or so, really looking for a good guy. A lot of them really want kids. It's out there, you just got to keep looking.

Some truth in what the last poster said about giving those Brot girls a little attitude. A lot of 'em only ever get to meet sad suits at the office or the usual alcys at the pub, so they treat men as a joke. In a way I don't blame them. The whole British repressive attitude to sex has really fucked a lot of people up (like the British).

anyhow, good luck. Just make sure you're having plenty fun while you're looking!

[BrendanGooch]

manon/lotsafun,

Thanks for the advice, sorry to bring this up on this board but I always feel that there is somthing missing in my life.

Its far easier to share my feelings and ask questions on a BBS such as this rather then asking someone face to face who will only laugh in my face.

Sex is great with a the female of the species, but for me I just havent experienced the passion of it, I still would like to experience a relationship oneday with a woman. even if it goes wrong at least I have been there and done it.

It seems that english girls only seem to meet guys through friends and relatives and not through meeting in bars and stuff.

The worst thing is since I have come back to the UK, I really dont know anyone apart from work colleagues.


There are times when I just got so fed up with everything that I just get totally drunk and go and pay for a hooker because I want female company. This is probably the wrong way of going about things but this is what I end up doing on weekends.

Maybe I should be alot more cocky and funny with the women, guess I am just too nice to the women of this world and thats why I keep falling into this trap.

Thanks again !

[Farty]

Originally posted by BrendanGooch
manon/lotsafun,

Thanks for the advice, sorry to bring this up on this board but I always feel that there is somthing missing in my life.
.
.
.

Maybe I should be alot more cocky and funny with the women, guess I am just too nice to the women of this world and thats why I keep falling into this trap.

Thanks again !

Hi Brendan, I identify closely with everything you said.. I eventually got into a routine of visiting strip joints in London where I could see girls and chat with them as well.. After a while I was getting invites to private strip parties etc. Met a few models, page 3 girls etc.. I've been away from London for more than a year but I'm still in regular touch with some of the strippers..
It's weird how I now know loads of good looking women including some who are well known objects of lust for thousands of men, yet the relationship side is a total void..

[ILS05]

I seem to wander around London looking for any good bars to meet girls without any financial interest. Can anybody recommend a place with girls that are just into fun???

[CBGBConnisur]

Brendan, keep your chin up those British girls if they are cold to you don't take it personally, there are much better women elsewhere on the planet. You name it there are some nice places, Praha, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Madrid, Sevilla, Munich, Koln, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Rio De Janeiro, Sao Paulo, Vancouver, Montreal, Buenos Aires, Budapest, Athens, Mykonos, Lisbon, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Paris, Cannes, Monaco. There are tons of women out there, don't let some British chic put you down, I have had a lot of bad experiences with American women but guess what you go elsewhere and things get better, much better. Now I don't care a flying pig about Yankee ladies anymore, there's so many possibilities out there, why bother. The thing that makes British and American women different from everyone else is one thing, money. Women in both countries find that money is the most attractive asset in man over anything else, including looks. I am a pretty good looking guy but was never big when it comes to $$$, so I used to think I was flawed. Then I met a beauty in France who asked me why I was alone, she said, "Monsoir, you are too handsome to be all by yourself." I was completely flattered by the comment, you see French women and a lot of other ladies want to be with a handsome sexy guy rather than some rich loser who can't get it up. So in other places you can do a lot better and meet a lot of good looking ladies. When I was in Rio two years ago for example, I went to the shopping district and saw more beautiful women in one blink of an eye than I do for a summer month in either New York or London.

[BrendanGooch]

CBGBConnisur, Farty, Merlin , Manon,

Thanks for all those positive posts, reading these makes me feel alot better, knowing that thier is hope for not just myself but for all those in my position.

CBGBConnisur,
I love the story of the french lady who complimented you thats the most beautiful thing any women could say to a gentlemen like yourself !.

ILS05,

I would say 80 % of women you find in the bars in london, will love you wallet more then anything else, I am sure there are some descent english girls out there but I have never met them, probably because the descent ones dont go to bars to get pissed and make a fool out of themselves.

If you do go to bars in london, try making conversaton with the foreign women, they tend to be more polite, the chances are that they have boyfriends back at home but still its nice having conversations with them.

God Bless you all !

[BrendanGooch]

ILS05,

Forgot to mention, if you want to go out to a bar for drinks check out the areas around Covent Gardens and Leicester square.

As I mentioned before, you are going to need deep pockets if you
want to find a girl to have fun with.

Good luck

[CBGBConnisur]

Well lets face facts, London like New York or Los Angeles is a place for business, some of us men are often fooled(I was one of those fools) that love and money go hand in hand, its not true. I've met some wonderful women in the North of England for example, in particular, Manchester. Then again Manchester is a more middle class city than London. In New York its also work and business and only little time for fun. I go to Montreal and then its a different atmosphere. So as men we have to choose between what we want in life. The French lady I met seems to want love rather than money, I think thats a great philosophy for a happy life, we're all human and life is too short to be serious all the time.

[BrendanGooch]

CBGBConnisur,

I agree with what your saying, I am curious where in france did u meet your french lady ?.

Maybe I should go for vacation in montreal. Are you back in the UK now ? Where do live now ?

[CBGBConnisur]

The French woman I met lived in Paris, she was a University Student at the Sorbonne. She was quite intelligent and a lot of fun although a bit younger than I, she was 21. I ran into her at a cafe near the University Campus, it was really a twist of fate. I saw her drop her books and just helped her. Then one thing led to another. She understood a good amount of English so communication wasn't much of a problem. I lived for about a year in Europe traveling as a consultant for my US firm. I'm currently in New York City, so I am hoping I am sent to Europe again. As for Montreal its also an excellent city for women, the proper analogy for Montreal would be, London is to Paris as New York is to Montreal. Montreal Quebec is very North American and very different from the real Paris. They are both fun cities and have a lot of beautiful women. I think Montreal as a whole is a more diverse city with people from many different cultural backgrounds, French Quebecoise, English, Irish, Italian, Greek, Latin, Middle Eastern, and many others. Montreal would be a French speaking version of New York City. In Montreal about 60 percent of population speaks French and 40 percent speak English, but most of the French speakers speak English quite well. Whereas in Paris, I would say 85 percent of the people speak French only, and the rest other languages, but there is a large international community in Paris. With regards to communication you'll have fewer issues in Montreal.

[BrendanGooch]

CBGBConnisur,

Thats a wonderful story, it sounds almosts out of fairy tale to meet a girl like this. Your a very lucky man.

Guys,

I only wish such a thing would happen to me, I visited an escort two days ago, even though I wasn't really up for sex. It was more for some female company.

I had this beautiful italian girl, she told me I was really attractive looking and sensitive and she began kissing me mouth to mouth in a big way and we both made passionate love.

At the end of the hour she just lied next to me and kept looking into my eyes and rubbing her fingers all over my face. I had never met a call girl who was so warm and charming before.

She was so cute, I wanted to ask for her number to take her for a date sometime.

What do you think I should do ?

[Farty]

Originally posted by BrendanGooch
CBGBConnisur,

Thats a wonderful story, it sounds almosts out of fairy tale to meet a girl like this. Your a very lucky man.

Guys,

I only wish such a thing would happen to me, I visited an escort two days ago, even though I wasn't really up for sex. It was more for some female company.

I had this beautiful italian girl, she told me I was really attractive looking and sensitive and she began kissing me mouth to mouth in a big way and we both made passionate love.

At the end of the hour she just lied next to me and kept looking into my eyes and rubbing her fingers all over my face. I had never met a call girl who was so warm and charming before.

She was so cute, I wanted to ask for her number to take her for a date sometime.

What do you think I should do ?

Be careful not to get carried away.. With prostitutes, you have to be even more careful of their motives than normal, as I'm sure you realise.
I would visit her again and spend more time with her so you get to chat etc. Maybe suggest she visits you. Just don't fall head over heels with her cos you could get stung big time..

[BrendanGooch]

Farty,

Your right thanks for the advice !, where do you live ? are in london by any chance ?

Guys,

U know where the Raymonds Review bar is, just down that road there is a big neon sign advertising "Models" in glowing red lights (I think they were glowing was drunk at the time).

It appeared to be a 4 storey building of some sort, are there nice girls in there ? is this a rip off place ? or geniune ?.



Originally posted by Farty
Be careful not to get carried away.. With prostitutes, you have to be even more careful of their motives than normal, as I'm sure you realise.
I would visit her again and spend more time with her so you get to chat etc. Maybe suggest she visits you. Just don't fall head over heels with her cos you could get stung big time..

[BrendanGooch]

I decided to go clubbing on the weekend and went to this club called the Hippodrome in Leicester Square, I noticed alot of Ukrainian girls were at the club.

I tried to chat them up but had to no sucess, then I noticed that some ugly black guys chatted to them and 10 minutes later they left the club with them. This really pissed me off.

Is it possible these girls were hookers ? who just wanted money in return for sexual pleasure ?. How could these guys just have talked to them and then walked out with them.

[BrendanGooch]

SalsaKing,

With all due respect, CBGBConnisur does have a good point.

English women are generally speaking unattractive and very cold hearted women inside. I know this because I have been fucked around, mind gamed and cheated by them.

I would much prefer a warmed hearted, attractive foreign girl then some cold hearted *****.

Originally posted by SalsaKing
Ok, will CBGBConnisur please stop slagging off UK and America! We all know by know you prefer the rest of Europe. Fine. I love European women and despite being born in London I think foreign girls are a lot more beautiful... but that's just a preference. There are plenty of beautiful women in London and I'm sure there are in the US as well. And London happens to be one of the most multicultural cities on the planet. Like Dutch, Croatian, Asian, Italian? Then you'll find them in London. As for prices and scams, well what do you expect? Any big city is full of them and most people can spot a tourist miles away. Stay out of Central London and visit the massage parlours and strip bars on the outskirts. There are pubs where you can watch a naked woman for a pint of beer and a couple of quid in her jar when she walks past. And in the massage parlours you'll find girls of any nationalitiy you want - prices around £50 - £100. All I'm saying is, of course London will never be Thailand, but stop slagging off every where you don't like, CBGB, we really do get the picture now :)

[SalsaKing]

Hey ILS05!

There are loads of good places. Still looking? Email me at: gun@my-head.fsnet.co.uk

[SalsaKing]

Ok, will CBGBConnisur please stop slagging off UK and America! We all know by know you prefer the rest of Europe. Fine. I love European women and despite being born in London I think foreign girls are a lot more beautiful... but that's just a preference. There are plenty of beautiful women in London and I'm sure there are in the US as well. And London happens to be one of the most multicultural cities on the planet. Like Dutch, Croatian, Asian, Italian? Then you'll find them in London. As for prices and scams, well what do you expect? Any big city is full of them and most people can spot a tourist miles away. Stay out of Central London and visit the massage parlours and strip bars on the outskirts. There are pubs where you can watch a naked woman for a pint of beer and a couple of quid in her jar when she walks past. And in the massage parlours you'll find girls of any nationalitiy you want - prices around £50 - £100. All I'm saying is, of course London will never be Thailand, but stop slagging off every where you don't like, CBGB, we really do get the picture now :)

[ib6ub9]

Originally posted by jimbehr2000
Well folks I finally visited a few models in Soho today and have to say I was fairly impressed. Met a nice Asian and a Romanian and had a good time with both.Most of the action was on Peter St. with only a very few elsewhere in Soho. The quantity was less than I thought but the quality was good overall. Had a great time with the Asian and went looking for another Asian but couldn't find one. My new Asian friend is off tomorrow so I hope I can find another one in Soho. Damn my legs are tired from climbing those f'king stairs.

hey, can someone advise exactly where 'soho' is? i am going to be visiting england from canada next week and the last time i was there i paid 300 pounds for 1 hour! sex is so much cheaper in canada (50 pounds for 1 hour with a NICE escort in or out) i do not want to pay so much again so i would like to check this soho place out. please let me know whats the deal there and how to go about things and also things i should be careful of.

thanks guys.

[ib6ub9]

Originally posted by ib6ub9
hey, can someone advise exactly where 'soho' is? i am going to be visiting england from canada next week and the last time i was there i paid 300 pounds for 1 hour! sex is so much cheaper in canada (50 pounds for 1 hour with a NICE escort in or out) i do not want to pay so much again so i would like to check this soho place out. please let me know whats the deal there and how to go about things and also things i should be careful of.

thanks guys.

oh ya, is there 'clubs' you can go to where you can check the women out and chat em up before?? these are the best places to visit in south africa and they are SWEET.

ciao.

[BrendanGooch]

jimbehr2000

Can you tellme where St Peters St is in SOHO, have you ever checked the walkups which is not too far from the Raymonds Review Bar ?

Farty/Merlin,

Next time you guys in the UK, or if your in the UK how about meeting up for a drink and check out the local scene ?.




Originally posted by ib6ub9
hey, can someone advise exactly where 'soho' is? i am going to be visiting england from canada next week and the last time i was there i paid 300 pounds for 1 hour! sex is so much cheaper in canada (50 pounds for 1 hour with a NICE escort in or out) i do not want to pay so much again so i would like to check this soho place out. please let me know whats the deal there and how to go about things and also things i should be careful of.

thanks guys.

[BrendanGooch]

ib6ub9

avoid the peep shows in soho like the plague unless u want to be ripped off. stick to the walkups, "models"i am plan to check them out tommoro and will let you know.


i think u can pay 20 quid for sex or somthing.

i hear that there is a hostess bar called pink pussy, which is above the hilton hotel where u can chat to women and pay them, then take them home with you.

i don't have any personal experience of this place so i cant give you my recommendations.



originally posted by ib6ub9
oh ya, is there 'clubs' you can go to where you can check the women out and chat em up before?? these are the best places to visit in south africa and they are sweet.

ciao.

[Buster Cherry]

Brendan, you mean Peter street. it is right by Meard st., around the corner north from 1 Blore Court (Les Girls). From Oxford proceed on Berwick half way toward Picadilly, Peter intersects where you see the street market and the Safeway Store. 1 Blore Court is across the street from the Safeway.

[BrendanGooch]

Hey Buster Cherry my friend !!

How are you ? havent seen u here for a while. Thanks for the directions. Where have u been for so long ?
Will check this place out tommoro.

Guys,

I noticed a few rip off places near the Windmill strip club. By the way the WindMill is a licensed strip bar, however its for the upper class people and hosts lots of beautiful girls there.

Theres a strip club not too far from Windmill with a blond haired danish girl standing outside offering tickets for a five pounds to enter and see the strippers.

Sure this is another rip off scam..my colleague was almost tempted to go in but I cautioned him.



Originally posted by buster cherry
Brendan, you mean Peter street. it is right by Meard st., around the corner north from 1 Blore Court (Les Girls). From Oxford proceed on Berwick half way toward Picadilly, Peter intersects where you see the street market and the Safeway Store. 1 Blore Court is across the street from the Safeway.

[babbelman]

lets get something straight you guys, i i travel the world , and being a native londoner, i can assure this city is a disgrace for whoring. fuck soho, nothing but ugly smelly unhygenic mingers wanting to tax your wallet. if you must get laid in this city, use agencys (which im happy recommend, or the telephone boxes down towards glouster road. the REST forget. cant stand the thought of you guys coming here and getting ripped off. if you want info mail me at
liquorwish@usa.com or if you disagree i look forward to your reply on the forum .

[SalsaKing]

BrendanGooch,

I very much doubt these girls were hookers. Or is that something you think about every girl in a night club who doesn't like you? And why do you say the black guys were ugly? Or is that something you say about every guy that succeeds where you fail?

I'm a black guy and I've been to Hipprodome several times and had no luck. I don't get pissed off, if the girls I talk to go off, with some white guy - which has happened on more than one occasion. Quit being so paranoid mate. It wasn't personal.



Originally posted by BrendanGooch
I decided to go clubbing on the weekend and went to this club called the Hippodrome in Leicester Square, I noticed alot of Ukrainian girls were at the club.

I tried to chat them up but had to no sucess, then I noticed that some ugly black guys chatted to them and 10 minutes later they left the club with them. This really pissed me off.

Is it possible these girls were hookers ? who just wanted money in return for sexual pleasure ?. How could these guys just have talked to them and then walked out with them.

[SalsaKing]

BrendanGooch,

Of course CBGBConnisur has a point and personally I agree with both of you when it comes to foreign girls - which I why I haven't dated an English girl since school... the point is you don't have to keep slagging them off at every opportunity. And while i'm on the subject, I'm sorry you had bad experiences with english girls m8 but they are not all evil. And the Ukrainian girls weren't prostitutes because they didn't talk to you and the black guys weren't ugly because they went home with them. Can we stop slagging people off now? It's boring.




Originally posted by BrendanGooch
SalsaKing,

With all due respect, CBGBConnisur does have a good point.

English women are generally speaking unattractive and very cold hearted women inside. I know this because I have been fucked around, mind gamed and cheated by them.

I would much prefer a warmed hearted, attractive foreign girl then some cold hearted *****.

[SalsaKing]

Sex in the City....

Anyone who's a native londoner (like I am) knows to stay away from Central London. It's a rip off for tourists. Stick with the massage parlours and saunas. Apart from the fact that you shouldn't get ripped off you can also see a review of the girl (from another punter) before you part with your cash. These reviews are normally posted on websites but you can also buy a book like Macoys Guide. Also some places have websites that show the girls, give directions etc.

The point is this. If you find yourself anywhere (and I mean anywhere) in Central London then you are asking for trouble. Apart from the no thrills and tacky walkups there's nothing in the city but trouble. My advice is to get your travelcard and don't stop until you are in Zone 4 or further. Not only do prices go down the further you go but you will also find some cheap strip joints and the street girls are better.

I recommend: http://www.*********.com/saunaguide.html

have fun, London isn't great but if you look in the right places you'll enjoy your vacation and won't break the bank while you're doing it.



Originally posted by babbelman
lets get something straight you guys, i i travel the world , and being a native londoner, i can assure this city is a disgrace for whoring. fuck soho, nothing but ugly smelly unhygenic mingers wanting to tax your wallet. if you must get laid in this city, use agencys (which im happy recommend, or the telephone boxes down towards glouster road. the REST forget. cant stand the thought of you guys coming here and getting ripped off. if you want info mail me at
liquorwish@usa.com or if you disagree i look forward to your reply on the forum .

[BrendanGooch]

Salsa King,

Your the one that seems to be upset or hurt by my words, u seem to picked up on the "ugly black guy" which I mentioned in my post. This was never used to offend in anyway. I am sorry if you have taken my words as offensive or racist.

I hope you have better luck in the Hippodrome next time.





Originally posted by SalsaKing
BrendanGooch,

I very much doubt these girls were hookers. Or is that something you think about every girl in a night club who doesn't like you? And why do you say the black guys were ugly? Or is that something you say about every guy that succeeds where you fail?

I'm a black guy and I've been to Hipprodome several times and had no luck. I don't get pissed off, if the girls I talk to go off, with some white guy - which has happened on more than one occasion. Quit being so paranoid mate. It wasn't personal.

[BrendanGooch]

SalsaKing,

So tellme where would u meet girls and get laid in London ? Clubs, bars etc ?. Can you us recommendations ?

I take it your a Salsa dancer right ?, like I have said I am sorry about my message.

Originally posted by SalsaKing
BrendanGooch,

Of course CBGBConnisur has a point and personally I agree with both of you when it comes to foreign girls - which I why I haven't dated an English girl since school... the point is you don't have to keep slagging them off at every opportunity. And while i'm on the subject, I'm sorry you had bad experiences with english girls m8 but they are not all evil. And the Ukrainian girls weren't prostitutes because they didn't talk to you and the black guys weren't ugly because they went home with them. Can we stop slagging people off now? It's boring.

[Merlin Magician]

Ok guys in London and the UK:

Be listening to ITN IBC Radio on Sept. 16, 17, and 18th. I'm supposed to be on air with an American view about *****s and other problems in Soho. If you hear a Texan talking it's me.

[ClassicPianist]

BrendanG: there's a salsa club/disco in Charing Cross road on the left as you walk away from Tottenham Court Road towards the Thames. It's frequented by quite a few tourists and groups of english language students thus catering for those who are opposed to English girls. Behave respectfully and smile alot and you'll never know your luck....

[BrendanGooch]

classicpianist

Thanks for the advice !! I shall check this place out next week.

Do u go there frequently ? which are the best days ?

Do u have an email address ? I really want some geniune advice from people on how to improve my life. Secondly I want to build a descent social life and meet descent girls. not just getting drunk and visiting ***** houses. I fed up of that.

Its been very difficult just making friends and getting to know people in my area. In england its so hard to break into a social circle, its as if u have to have somthing to offer before anyone wants to know you.

I joined a gym and tried chatting to girls there, they dont seem that interested either they have boyfriends or they are just stuck up.

I have startted training in martial arts to help occupy my mind, but like I said finding girls to be your friends or partners is so hard.

[M02040608]

I am going to Colchester in Essex and looking for a 23-27 year old good escort, clubs, or anything which will get me laid. Any Advice?

[BrendanGooch]

for all those newcomers who want to visit soho, if u really want to visit a strip bar there, there are only two licenced strip joints,

1. windmill
2. raymonds review bar

as far as i can tell every other place is a rip off place.

one question, i did notice a peep show on one of the streets, it was a large entrance with cubicles on one side of the room. not too far from the raymonds review bar.

is this a geniune peep show ? it appeared to be but it was hard to tell.

[ak234]

I have recently returned from a two-week holiday to London. Thanks to the earlier posters for their advice. I used the walkups in SOHO with good success. Ground zero for the action is the area around Raymonds Revue Bar. It is hidden away and somewhat difficult to find for a newcomer. Close subway stations include Tottenham Court Road (central line), Leicester Square (northern line), and Piccadilly Circus (Piccadilly line). I used the Gielgud Theater on Shaftesbury Avenue as my landmark (it is just down the street from the long-running Les Miserables at the Palace Theater, also on Shaftesbury). From the Gielgud Theater you can see the giant white sign of RRB at the end of the street.

A few warnings first: (1) Stay away from the strip bars and go-go clubs--they are just clip joints. I stayed away due to the advice from this forum. (2) I was approached by a tall, thin, dark-haired drug-addicted woman who wanted to show me to a brothel. It was daytime, so I followed out of curiosity. She led me to a doorway where she pressed a buzzer. She then wanted twenty pounds from me "for the girls." I said that I would only pay the prostitute directly. She said that I would not be let up unless I paid her. I just walked away. I saw this woman and a couple of others like her working this area. Stay away--they just want your money and will run away with it once you hand it over. For all you know they may even grab your wallet and run. Never pay anyone except the prostitute herself.

Once you know what to look for it is easy to find. Just walk around the streets circling RRB and you will come across over a dozen different doorways with "model" written just inside. Unfortunately very few doorways have real descriptions of the women. Once inside an additional post may say "friendly, young girl, nice," or something useless like that. Most doorways lead into a narrow stairway which you need to climb. There are usually a couple of different floors, each floor with a single woman working. Ring the bell and the maid will answer, a very non-threatening older woman. "Have a seat," she will say, if the prostitute is in session with someone else. Otherwise, you will get invited into the bedroom directly to see the model.

Every women I saw was no more than a 5 out of 10. They all had flaws, like childbirth marks, or an extra few pounds around the waist. All were young (20's) and almost all were friendly and accomodating. They were mostly European, from Spain, Greece, even Croatia and Turkey.

The initial price was twenty pounds for a straight fuck or handjob lasting ten minutes. All girls had a menu from which to choose. The most expensive option might be sex and 69 for forty pounds and fifteen minutes. Otherwise you might be able to buy time, like thirty minutes for 60 pounds or an hour for 110 pounds (although these girls are really short-time only). All sex was with condom only. No BBBJ. No anal as far as I could see. These girls move around, and a girl you see in one apartment one day may be replaced by another the following day. A tip is expected to be paid to the maid when you agree on a price for the girl: an appropriate tip is one pound.

The girls are nice, but it was irritating to hear the door buzzer every few minutes while fooling around with them. These girls work on volume!

So, all in all, a reasonable experience. Relatively low cost, easy access, lots of choices, legal. By the way, if you don't like the girl it is okay to say goodbye. Nothing particularly memorable, but if you have a nut to crack, its as good as anything.

Also, to the poster asking about the big yellow sign "models" along Dean Street, it is also okay. A few floors with prostitutes, same price. Try it.

[WhoreSeeker]

AK posted some very useful and very accurate info. I used to use the walkups and they are a good source for cheap sex in london. Many of the women are skanks but some of the eastern europeans are hot and give good service for £25 for s+f . You can see the girl and if u dont like her leave without hassle, i didi that until i found the one i wanted.

While im here worth mentioning that massage parlours are the ideal option for sex in london in imho. But some are better than others. I used to go to a massage place off holloway road and I paid £10 for the 30 min massage plus only £30 to thai girl i used regular for s+f and a body to body massage, that was cheap even 5 years ago , expect to pay about £50 or more now.

[spikey]

Strip Pubs:-

For "looking, not touching" visit

http://www.trashcity.org/STRIP/INTRO.HTM

for details of about 15 places around Liverpool Street station.

("Around" means within 30 minutes or so- if you're planning a tour, you could easily fit 5/6/7 into an afternoon & evening session. )

My personal favourite is "Rainbow Sports Bar" (don't let the word "rainbow" put you off- it's not like that) for good pole and horny table dancing. See the above link for charges.

The venues are all within transport zones 1 & 2, which is what you'll be buying for public transport, unless you stretch to taxis everywhere.

Note that, obviously, with 15 or so venues, other contributors may have their own views about favourites.

Massage parlours :-

One personal recommendation is

http://www.londonretreat.co.uk

*DOWNSIDE*

- You have to book in advance ( a couple of hours is probably OK)

- It's in Earls Court (which is a pain if your hotel or itinerary doesn't include it )

- It costs 100 GBP for 30 minutes

*UPSIDE*

- See the website for details of the services available

- They are not lying (!)

- It's worth every pound.

Happy Hunting,

Spikey

[Farty]

Originally posted by spikey
Strip Pubs:-

My personal favourite is "Rainbow Sports Bar" (don't let the word "rainbow" put you off- it's not like that) for good pole and horny table dancing. See the above link for charges. Spikey


The Sports Bar is probably my least favourite.. Crap staff, filthy toilets, etc etc..

I like the White Horse and Browns better by a wide margin...

[tylerchaos]

I will be in London in few weeks, so can anyone help me out?
I am looking for a Japanese/Chinese escortservice.
reliable and with great girls of course
Thanks

[Buster Cherry]

Tyler, go to area of Soho and find China Town section (kind of south -sh of Berwick St.). You will find walk ups with Oriental girls working there. In most other parts of Soho you will find a few more Chinese girls.

Blore House-Les Girls (1 Blore Ct. at intersection of Peter St. and Berwick, across from Safeway Store) has a couple of Oriental girls. So does Cottage House last I saw. Academy girls is an excellent escort service and they have Chinese and Japanese girls, I know for sure.

[Foss]

Thanks buster. Tyler let me know if you find a good massage (esp. asian). I'm travelling to London at the end of this month and would love a reccommendation.

Anyone else out there have a suggestion??

Thanks!

[Merlin Magician]

foss, you can order a McCoy's Guide from Amazon UK. Neither Amazon USA nor Barnes and Noble USA carry it.

Best source I know of for massage reviews.

[DownUnder]

Indian WOMEN- I know the UK is full of Indian women - what people's experience's with them ( pro and non-pro) ????

[Foss]

thanks merlin!
is the McCoys available on the street in London? If so where?

Also - has anyone had experience with getting 4 hand massage in central London?

THANKS ALL!!

foss

[DFWdude]

i am planning a trip to london next month, and would like to pursue my hobby a bit. i have read to stay out of the peep shows of soho (plus i learned from my own mistake 10 years ago..) i am very curious about the "models". are all of these girls located in a specific area? are the close to soho? how much can i expect to pay?
i have frequented amsterdam and had a great time, for the low hassle and low price there it is hard to beat!

thanks!

dd

[Merlin Magician]

foss, upon arrival, you may be able to pick up a copy of McCoy's at the airport bookshop. I know you can get one at any bookstore or news shop in the UK.

and DFW dude,

Just go to the area between Oxford and Picadilly Circus centered by Berwick. Roam the blocks either side of Berwick and you will see many little cardboard signs, etc. Nice thing about Soho is you can shop around. If you dont like what you see go on to the next doorway.

Shepard's Market is a much quieter area. Same thing here; lots of little cardboard signs. Prices generally higher here but time is usually longer. the area is in thec blocks northwest of intersection of Park Lane and Buckingham Road.

WARNING!!!!!! Stay away from anyone in the street. Street people are there for one purpose and that is to fuck you over and not even give you a kiss. Also many gypsys roam here. Women with babies are expert pickpockets.

[Manofkosice]

I agree with Merlin about the rip-offs.

Also watch out for the strip-bars around there. You go down some stairs, and an retired hooker who is too thick to hold a conversation sits next to you while you drink your alcohol-free beer. Later you get presented with an outrageous bill for the beer and her sparkling "company". If you want a strip club then there are better places to go than soho. There is also a rip-off (although I never saw this myself) where men wait on the stairway and take the 25 pounds for the girl - of course the girl doesn't know about it when you get to the top. Only give money to the girl and you will be ok.

The 'models' are not usually around until 1pm and the doors are shut so it looks like you are in the wrong place. Prices are usually 20 pounds for sex, and 25 for sex and "french" which is the annoying phrase that is used for oral in London. Also, the girl will ask for a tip for her maid (if the girl paid the maid directly then she could be charged with living off the earnings of a prostitute - girls in London have to be solo) - you should pay 1 pound. Of course, if the maid is earning 1 pound per customer, and minimum wage in the UK is more than 4 pounds per hour, you can see that you are not going to get long for your 26 pounds - its OK if you are quick.

It might be a good idea to maybe even give the girl two pounds to give to her maid because you look like a good man before the sex starts (and a tip after the sex to the girl is too late to improve it!) and the institution of the maids is one we should support (these are usually retired pros who sit in the kitchen of the flat all day and can advise the girls or chat with a customer if the next guy comes before the previous one is finished. This makes it much safer for the girls to work).

The best attitude is to celebrate the informality of catching a movie in Leicester square, walking 5 minutes, knocking on the door of a flat belonging to a 21 year old girl you have never met, leaving 15 minutes later having left behind 26 pounds and some semen and then getting yourself a meal in Chinatown. Perfect night out. If you work in London then its a nice place to go on your lunch break if you have a whole hour and work within 15 minutes tube ride, especially if the boss is giving you hell.

The first time you get to the junction between Peter street and Berwick street you will probably look like you don't know what the fuck you are doing, so some guy (there are a few hanging around usually, especially after dark) might offer to take you to a girl he recommends. If he does this then the girl has to pay him ten pounds, which she just adds on to your bill. 10 pounds might not seem like a lot, but these guys are bad to the girls (they extort money and are probably selling drugs on the street too), and the police don't to give a shit. If they speak to you ignore them or say 'no thank you' whatever they say. Also if you want drugs then go to somewhere else (like Brixton or Lambeth in south london where hash is semi-legal), don't buy it from these guys. In fact don't trust anyone who speaks to you on the streets of soho.

Quality varies a lot - some are OK, although very few of them get into it (they see too many men in a day). About 12 months ago the girls in a flat on Newport Court (which is a small narrow alleyway with shops leading between the chinatown side of soho and ChCr Road) were usually OK (especially Sabrina), although of course if these girls were real models then they would cost 200 pounds per hour as an escort in London, and would be doing that instead of seeing several men per hour all day. There was also a door on the north side of Peter street which had a dutch girl, a czech girl and a spanish girl in the two flats upstairs (sharing different days of course) - all of which were exceptions to what I said about getting into the action (either nymphos or good actors to look like they are enjoying their 10th man of the day).

[Edrotic]

Hi, I often have one or two overnights in the London - Heathrow area, most of the time on sunday nights.. Any erotic or party club recommendations at this time of the week in this area as no own transport available..? Or during daytime?

Thanks E..

[Gearmen]

Hi guy,
i'm writing from Italy, and the next week i'll be in london for one day, especially in the morning, so, can you tell where can I go to have cheap sex.
Please, my english is not good enough, so write clearly.
Thanks in advance, you are great!!!!
Bye Gearmen

[ClassicPianist]

gearmen: you will need to give your price range as the scene in London covers all price sectors from 30 euros upwards. Note that most girls start work at 11.00 at the earliest...some even later...which would curtail your activities. A number of ladies are of foreign extraction and therefore are not fluent in the English language themselves so your command of the language is not likely to be material.

edrotic: I understand that two parties in the Heathrow area are being planned for 30 November. Please note that others scheduled between now and then will not be eithin easy travelling distnace of and in any event parties at weekends are very rare.

all: any one wanting strip shows at a reasonable price in Soho are advised to head for the Sunset Strip in Dean Street on the right heading northwards. It's been there for generations and you will not be ripped off...just £15 to get in with a full bar at normal pub prices and tipping of the dancers is optional and unpressured. Avoid the others and don't ever trust anyone approaching you in the street for any reason. Cheap if perfucntory sex is available if you follow the good counsel of previous posters.

[ClassicPianist]

edrotic: I've just become aware that wicked parties are holding a party on the evening of Sunday 3 November and also the following day in Oxford which isn't too far a drive from Heathrow. Shiatsu has posted an excellent account of his experience at one of these parties on the General Interest thread of the UK sector of this board and a few more can be found in the field reports section at www.*********.com to give you some idea of what to expect.

I am sure that there are public transport links between Heathrow and Oxford but Sundays are really not the best day of the week to travel on the UK rail/bus network so you'll be best advised to hire a car for a few hours from one of the many operators in the arrivals lounges of any of the four terminals.

[tylerchaos]

I will be in London and already asked around about oriental, esp. Japanese girls.
Upon looking trough the internet I found several call girl sites .
Anyone have experience with these.
Like AAA-gals or london-oriental
I know there are very expensive but I want my first experience with an asian to be perfect

[BrendanGooch]

Classicpianist,

Is that the one not too far from the WindMill ? I might have passed it theres a danish lady standing outside getting people to come in.

I avoided it thinking it was a rip off place

Originally posted by classicpianist
gearmen: you will need to give your price range as the scene in London covers all price sectors from 30 euros upwards. Note that most girls start work at 11.00 at the earliest...some even later...which would curtail your activities. A number of ladies are of foreign extraction and therefore are not fluent in the English language themselves so your command of the language is not likely to be material.

edrotic: I understand that two parties in the Heathrow area are being planned for 30 November. Please note that others scheduled between now and then will not be eithin easy travelling distnace of and in any event parties at weekends are very rare.

all: any one wanting strip shows at a reasonable price in Soho are advised to head for the Sunset Strip in Dean Street on the right heading northwards. It's been there for generations and you will not be ripped off...just £15 to get in with a full bar at normal pub prices and tipping of the dancers is optional and unpressured. Avoid the others and don't ever trust anyone approaching you in the street for any reason. Cheap if perfucntory sex is available if you follow the good counsel of previous posters.

[ClassicPianist]

BG: Dean Street is a few blocks away from the Windmill and do not have any touts soliciting trade. The ones which do are definitely to be avoided.

[BrendanGooch]

Guys,

If anyone wants any help in and around london please email me at gameukuk@yahoo.co.uk

All is not lost when it comes to beautiful women in London, I was scouting through escort agencies on the net and found loads of escort agencies in london.

The only snag is for the best looking ones from the photos on the website you are paying no less then 300 pounds for an hour. Thats alot of money for a chick !.

As Merlin says there are walkups not too far from Raymonds Review Bar in SOHO.

On *********, there are sex parties held in london on different dates, to be honest its not my scene as I couldnt just gang bang with a group at a party.

Good luck.

[BrendanGooch]

classicpianist

I have to check this place out then,

Guys, as Merlin, Farty and classicpianist have said if you head to SOHO PLEASE KEEP AWAY FROM THE STRIP BARS WHICH HAVE SCANTELY CLAD FEMALES STANDING OUTSIDE.

Last week these blonde east end girl showing her breasts managed to con these two americans to go into Girls Girls Girls which I am sure is a rip off place.

Anyway I tried to intervene however these two guys were drunk and they would not listen to me.

The only legimate strip clubs are Raymonds Review Bar, The WindMill and the place classicpianist speaks of.

All in All SOHO is an interesting place to hangout so enjoy the bars, restaurants and clubs.

[Foss]

call me an idiot, but where is shepherds market? best tube stop and street??

thankkkkks

[ClassicPianist]

foss: Shepherds Market is just off Curzon Street in Mayfair which interestingly is an extremely upmarket residential area. Nearest tube is Green Park. You can console yourself with the fact that over 99.99% of Londoners are not aware of its existence.

[Merlin Magician]

On Shephard's Market:

It is truly a little known area by Londoners but pussy does abound there. A quiet residential area chock full of small apartments. Lots of cardboard "model" signs. Again, go northwest from area of Park Lane and Buckingham Road.

Rumor has it that all the real property there and in Soho too is owned by like a duke and other minor Royals and it is rumored that the Duke of Wellington is this majority property owner.

[Foss]

thanks for the info merlin & classic. I am goin tonight for a week in london and will keep all posted on my findings!

ciao!

[BrendanGooch]

Guys,

I just got back from Amsterdam and almost fell in love with all those prostitutes behind the windows.

All the girls I visited were nice warm gentlemen and very attractive looking.

This polish girl who I paid 50 euros to have sex with took a fancy to me. After finishing having sex with her and putting my clothes back on. This pimp burst into the room and started slapping her.

I just got mad when I saw him hitting her, I hit him twice on the face and pushed him down the stairs. The pimp almost fell through the window.

Anyway this polish girl Anna was crying and asked if she could stay with me the rest of the night. I dressed and went out for drinks she would not leave me alone so I took her back to the hotel and let her sleep next to me in bed.

Next morning I had to fly back to the UK, she cried and said she was scared for her life and wanted to stay with me. I held her and told her nothing will happen to her, I wanted to report this to the police however she said that probably wasnt a good idea. Anyway I had to fly back despite her pleas.

I just felt hopeless and depressed I didnt know how to handle it. Should I have tried to help her ?

I wish I could bring her to London shes so beautiful, kind and warm.

[Merlin Magician]

Brendan! Go get her ass! Bring her to London. I would.

[Patrick]

Brendan, ever watch Jackanory as a kid??

[babbelman]

yeah, nice one brendan, nearly fell for that one, however that is latest in a string of ideas to get illegal immigrants into the uk. picture this, you go get her spend a fortune on her, she comes to live with you then overnight she disapears, hell she didnt even bbbj you and let her cim. next time you bump into her she s walking around knightbridge with the geezer that gave left hook in amsterdam.
so brendan my advice to you is any women that is paid to have sex is a scammer they do the least they can for maximum money, now put your dick back in your pants, pull yourself together... go to shep market and get some rep001 action youll soon forget about that freeloading bint then!!!

[DFWdude]

How far is Sheperds Market from the Victoria Station (close to where I will stay in London). Is the Sheperds Market better for visiting "models" than the SOHO area? Which has better quality (younger) girls?

[danny007]

Hi dfwdude,
It is 1 stop on the Underground (train) / Tube from Victoria to Green Park station which is very close to Shepherds Market.
However I suggest you try some of the "escort" agencies
or "massage" parlours who advertise in the Yellow Pages
and local newspapers as their prices range from £50 to £200 for a session - hopefully a lot cheaper !
I hope to go on holiday on the 7th of November but if you are in London before that, then drop me a line (email) and I will show you around (no charge) if I am free then.
Good Luck anyway !
Danno.

[Travinguy]

After dozens of trips to London I finally decided to try the walkups in Soho and I have to say I had pretty good success.

It's a little unneverving at first to walk up those narrow little stairs and I have to say I really like to "shop". It's one of the things that's best about Amsterdam. You can do the same in soho but it takes more effort and work.

My first couple of attempts the girl was busy and the maid invited me in. I really didn't want to wait around only to find out I didn't like the girl so I moved on.

I wandered into the building with the big yellow model sign on it and as I got to the first floor landing a girl opened the door. She was eastern european about a 6 and offered me sex for 20. She was fairly enthusiastic if uninspired. I've certainly had worse for more money in Amsterdam. All in all not bad for value for money.

I still had a few hours until I had to leave for the airport so I got a bite of lunch and came back to soho a few hours later. I found an Asian girl near the leceister Square tube station. I walked up the maid let me in and got the girl. She was a knock out at least an 8 if you like Asian girls. I took a 20 minute option for 45. It was worth every penny. She started with a body to body massage and then rolled me over and stroked me while she sucked on my nipples. Then she put on a condom and gave me an ethusiastic blow job.. She then climbed on top and rode me for a while followed by doggy style. I have trouble cumming with a condom sometimes particularly when this was so close to my last session. So I pulled out to finish up by hand. She rolled over to watch and pulled the condom off... and played with my balls with one hand and fingered her pussy with the other... She let me shoot my load on her belly... I was amazed after I came she said.. let me massage your legs... she gave me a good massage for a few minutes until the maid knocked on the door.

I'd agree to give the maid a couple of pounds.. it may get you a little slack on time

[Merlin Magician]

maldonado, i have seen **** appearing hookers working in bethnal green and around the ten bells pub by white chapel.

i have also seen some teener cuties around kings cross station area. be very wary here tho, lots and lots of druggies.

[BrendanGooch]

Guys,

Patrick, if you think I telling fibs and stories. It doesnt matter, I dont have to prove anything to anyone here. I was just asking for peoples opinions on my experience.

Gentlemen,

Thanks for your advice, I decided not to pursue her any further.

If I am going to have a relationship with a girl, it cannot a lady who sells her body to men.

Anyway I am going to take a step back from the prostitute scene and try and find a real relationship.

I have have started getting heavily involved in the martial arts etc and and slowly gaining more confidence in myself.

I shall still be haunting this forum, as I like to give my advice to those in need.

[CBGBConnisur]

Brendan I believe you 100 percent, I met many women around the world who took a fancy to me as well and I wound up getting more than what I paid for. One lady in Amsterdam asked me why I was even paying for sex because she thought I was a good looking guy. I told her that I never seem to have time and that I live in New York City where people can often be very reserved and often hostile whether you are attractive or not.

[Member #1005]

please note: the age of consent in the uk is 16, anybody looking for **** girls should not be posting; this is not a paedophile site.

[Foss]

Was in London last week and stayed near victoria sta.

It is very near shep. market -- just a tube stop away - just off of curzon. Had great luck there. it was a bit more expensive than soho, but unrushed and better looking.

there is a jewlrey story right accross from a turkish kebab-looking place. Across from the jewl. store (in another direction) there is a door with a sign inside that says "japanese model - first floor" I think that it says something about unhurried massage.

Anyway - i tried it out and for 60 quid got a very unrushed half an hour with a phillipina 20 yr. old named mai. long massage with video playing and then on went the condom and got a bj and then sex. very nice body & shaven. Even shared some long kisses.

highly reccommended.

good luck all.

foss

[Corkgila]

Dear classicpianist,

I'm used to posting in Asia and will be in London next week for a couple of days. With my limited budget, do u think i stand a chance finding a partime girlfriend (freelancer)?

It's interesting to learn abt the system in London city like in soho, in Malaysia, the service offered is normally 45-60 min session...not that asians last longer ;) - (who doesn't want to?). But in case one doesn't come within the set time, what happens? Does one have to pay for the next session?

Hope to learn from the good advice posted in this site. But first, I've got to learn my way around the city. Can anyone tell me how far is Charing Cross or soho from Park Lane? Are they within walking distance? How save is travelling via the tube after 10pm?

Thanks & hope to hear from u guys.

CG


Originally posted by classicpianist
BrendanG: there's a salsa club/disco in Charing Cross road on the left as you walk away from Tottenham Court Road towards the Thames. It's frequented by quite a few tourists and groups of english language students thus catering for those who are opposed to English girls. Behave respectfully and smile alot and you'll never know your luck....

[Hargow20]

London street action?? Is there much street action in London these days?? If so where??

[Manofkosice]

corkgila

All those places are in walking distance of each other (like 30 minutes). An unlimited travel pass on the underground costs 5 pounds though, so it might be a better idea if you don't know your way around. Soho, if you don't finish quickly then the girl hurries you. You can arrange a longer time in advance by negotiating with the girl.

[Mind Snatcher]

Soho, London. Lots of East European girls these days. Some very attractive, but many work under duress. For your information, Juniour, the age of consent for paid sex is about to be raised to 18 in Britain. You can be imprisoned for consorting with prostitutes under that age. It's very hit-and-miss these days. Go round Soho, you'll find 100s of notices offering 'Young, friendly model'. The scribbled, illiterate-looking ones say it all. Prices are 20 pounds minimum. Around 100 for an hour. The French girls in Greek Street (near Pillar of Hercules pub) are reliable, clean and friendly, though the wrong side of 40. Italian girls also tend to offer good value. But don't expect too much. Look at the ********* website for up-to-date 'Field reports'. Independent escorts working out of high-class flats will charge much more, around 150-200 per hour is the minimum. Those claiming to be 'sophisticated', 'educated to degree level', sometimes ask for as much as 500 for a short session.

There are two reliable brothels in Soho, Les Girls and the Soho Cottage. Only one girl per day, though. The Cotage is just off Berwick Street; phone 0207 4944159. Emma works there Wednesdays and is living dynamite. 65 per half hour. Good value if somewhat cramped premises. They do have a shower.

[BrendanGooch]

Guys,

There are sex parties happening in and around London. What you need to do is keep a close eye on www.*********.com.

CBGBConnisur, Merlin Magic, classicpianist my good friends how are you all ?

I plan to spend a vacation in Prague at Christmas. Is anyone else planning to be there ?.

To the newcomers in SOHO I must stress again, keep away from those men and women who offer to take you to a flat with hookers. They are plain con artists who take advantage of the poor tourists.

[CBGBConnisur]

I wholeheartedly agree with you Brendan, the women standing in the doors of the various adult businesses in so might look nice and charming but anyone going in their is going to get cheated out of his or her money. On the other hand the Soho flats that say "Model" on the door are legitimate, prices usually range around 25 pounds for 20 minutes plus a one or two pound tip for the woman's madam, who is usually and old woman.

[sex_finder_ww]

been there, done that, followed the nice looking woman into the adult business and was ripped off, then out of desparation and lack of knowledge was led around by supposed SWs that took my money and ran. on my second trip, i had done my homework and found the "model" signs with no problems sex. i always do my homework now and recommend everyone else do so, as well.

[Randy Farang]

What ever happened to that block of flats just north of Marble Arch that had more independent providers than I could count? I found it through all the cards in the call boxes and had some great experiences there several years ago. Will be back in London next month and would love to find the same quality that I ran into before. Randy

[Buster Cherry]

O Randy One:

The area you refer to just north and east of Marble Arch is the north part of Mayfair/Shepherd's Market area. Start there and work south toward Buckingham Road in the blocks north of Park Lane. You'll see plenty of little cardboard signs. Much safer than Soho.

Again, just like in Soho, if you can physically see or communicate with the girl from the street or she is parked in a doorway, avoid her like the plague.

Now, in the area of King's Cross or Aldgate and White Chapel around the Ten Bells Pub or Bethnal Green all you will see are hard bitten street girls doing a little kerb crawling.

[Randy Farang]

Buster, thanks for your information. I was absolutely surprised the first time I discovered the cards in the phone booths, but I must admit that they have led to some of the most remarkable encounters in my experience. I did find an absolutely delightful young lady from Singapore that way that still brings happy memories whenever I think of her. I must say that the approach of the government toward adult services is far more civilized in London than it is in Washington. Randy

[MegaBalls]

Last time in London, went to check out the Shepherd's Market area in Mayfair, just behind the London Hilton and close to the famous Curzon Cinema which is currently being rebuilt. Apart from having a few very nice restaurants (try Boudin Blanc, a french bistro with excellent food), it is a quiet and safe neighbourhood and really just steps from the Mayfair hotels. Walked west from the square, entrances to the places where the girls work are easy to spot as they are well lit and advertise the usual “tall, busty, young girl”. However, what you find is much less than advertised, busty usually does not go with slim, at least not in England….
Ended up checking a few places, did not like what I saw, last attempt was the first floor of the last building before the small road turns left. Found a Hungarian girl, new in the business, still trying to shave her pussy without hurting herself. Body ok, above average for such a place, maybe a 7. Good tits with nipples that got hard very quicky once she started to play with me. After some foreplay and BJ, we started the real job, tried a few positions, she was really into checking out what we both liked best. Ended up with her sitting against the bed and me standing in front of her, giving handjob and then cumming all over her body. She even rubbed it in! And all this to soft Celine Dion music playing in the background. Gave her a 20 pound tip on top of the 60 she wanted. Good, straightforward sex with a girl who was into pleasing with an interesting finish. Would go back to her any day!

[LBS]

Hi, just moved to London recently and wanted to enquire if there are any single bars in London where one come across girls for sex. Thanks to anyone on feedback. Cheers !!

[Merlin Magician]

LBS, If you are looking for bar girls and sex, do not ever, no matter what, go to any of the bars in Soho. You may be safe in The Raymond Review but barely...

If you will hang out in and around the Ten Bells Pub in Aldgate (nearby White Chapel) you will find girls to fuck.

Also, It's my experience that fuckable girls also hang out at the Monkey Puzzle Pub by Marble Arch (pub is located between Marble Arch and Paddington Station, closer to Marble Arch).

And, any Hilton Hotel bars or clubs in London are hangouts for girls for the fucking.

[Gladiator]

merlin magician, what are the going rates for the girls at those pubs that you mention?

Thanks

[Merlin Magician]

I have priced the girls in all the areas and they all tend to want as much as the the telephone card girls. You would be looking at 100 to 300 GBP, average.

Why not just cut the club bullshit and go to Shepard's Market and spend 50 to 75 GBP for 30 to 45 minutes?

Or better, go to Soho's Cottage House or Blore House Les Girls (be sure to call first) and invest in some real quality for 60 to 300 GBP?(depending on time spent)

You can also call Academy Girls and they operate various co-op apartments (with high quality girls) and can accommodate for starting 200 GBP and up.

[LBS]

Thanks Merlin for the feedback. I shall try out those places and get back to all on the outcome. In the meantime, wish you all the best for the new year !! cheers !!

[Murilloa]

I hesitate to write this report in case the lovely lady becomes oversubscribed, but I owe it to you all to share news of Lori, who works at Les Girls, Blore House, Soho. There's a website but no pictures of Lori, just as well because no photo would do her justice. The bad news: she only works on Fridays. So booking ahead is vital, as it is for the excellent girls who work there on the other days. £60 for half an hour plus a tip for the maid. Absolutely first class value with any of the ladies, and with Lori herself a totally unforgettable experience with a virginal 20-something Latin beauty.
I must add my voice to those who have warned against the rip-off joints of Soho: they make me ashamed to be a Brit, albeit an expatriate one. Why be ripped for hundreds of pounds when Lori and her companions are giving such a great service just round the corner?

[CityDude]

Originally posted by murilloa
.....who works at Les Girls, Blore House, Soho. There's a website .....

I must add my voice to those who have warned against the rip-off joints of Soho: they make me ashamed to be a Brit, albeit an expatriate one. Why be ripped for hundreds of pounds when Lori and her companions are giving such a great service just round the corner?

I agree, Les Girls co-operative is one of the best deals in London bar none. I too feel bad about the clip joints in Soho - However, as the saying goes - "there is a sucker....

In all these years, they have increased their price for a hour by just five quids.

[Merlin Magician]

Re Soho: Any of you heard me on London's ITN Radio back in September, know my assessment of the crime elements in Soho.

I still say the ripoff crooks operate with impunity there because the City of Westminster cops are corrupt.

Bobbies who take complaints from customers who are ripped off at joints in Soho are as apt to consider counter-claims the crooks are filing charges of assault, etc. This is dire stupidity and it clearly shows the bobbies are on the take when they consistently allow the crooks to walk away. (Add to this also, the former eastern bloc gangters who run enslaved women in Soho with impunity.)

In sum, these Soho crooks operate with virtual immunity just because some cop wants to keep up his payments on a Jaguar for wifey.

[BrendanGooch]

The Raymonds Review bar is bloody expensive. I think its over a tenner to get in and drinks are bloody extortion prices.

A mate and myself had second thoughts about going in there. Its a safe, licenced strip club. The only other strip club is the WindMill which is again expensive but safe.

I still favour Amsterdam and Germany as the best haunts for sex and strip clubs.

Avoid that place called "Girls Girls Girls" I cant believe how many tourists go in there. Pretty sure its a ripoff joint.

Apparently theres a hostess bar ontop of the Hilton called the Pink Pussy, anyone heard of this ?

[BrendanGooch]

Buster,

I concur with you on that point. I have been approached by several girls not too far from the Raymons Review bar. Together with blokes offering me to take me to an appartment with some nice italian women who want to fuck. Just ignore them or tell them politely no thanks

[Bonvivant]

Gents,
I am new here, but will do my best to give, not just take.

I have an upcoming trip to London and was enthusiatically reading the posts about Les Girls.

Can anyone share more information?

The whole scene in London is new to me. From research on this site and other places it seems that prostitution is illegal in London, but from what I read here and on their own web site, les girls appears to be nothing other than a straightforward cathouse (and it sounds like a good one, I'll add).
I'm thinking of paying them a visit, so anymore information would be appreciated....as explicit as you feel comfortable sharing.
I'll be happy to post news of my time there after.

Thanks,

Bonvivant

[Murilloa]

bonvivant:

Welcome. You will not regret your decision to investigate les girls.

You will find it in a small insalubrious-looking but perfectly safe and discreet alley just off Berwick Street, near the Raymond Revubar (don't bother). Berwick Street has a busy open-air market Monday to Friday, a Soho institution. Five minutes walk from Leicester Square, Tottenham Court Road, or Piccadilly tube stations. The folks round here have seen it all: no need to feel threatened or embarrassed. It is best to make an appointment at les girls, once you know which day you are coming, for this is a popular venue. I cannot claim to have tried all the ladies there, for I confess to a special favourite, the divine Lori (perfect Portuguese petite beauty, Fridays only). But you can investigate for yourself, by visiting two web sites. The first, obviously, is the les girls site itself:

http://www.lesgirls.co.uk/lghome.htm

here you'll find the telephone number, prices, and a gallery of those who publish photos of their bodies (not faces, alas, and even more sadly there are no images of the beautiful Lori). This is useful information, but so is the UK's biggest review site, *********:

http://www.*********.com/

this scrupulously maintained site contains reviews of the ladies currently selling pleasure to men throughout the lovely rainy sceptred isle of England. Indispensable for the gentleman who wants to complement his cultural or business trip with some purchased sex. Search this site for references to les girls and you will see that it is a great bargain. Ladies like Paige and Chelsea are among London's best-loved prostitutes, both wonderful but not as gorgeous as the divine Lori. Browse at leisure and see which girl would suit you. Price £60 for half an hour, £110 the hour. Cheaper options exist in Soho, with some fifty walkup apartments where a quick fuck is on sale at £25, but this is really hit-and-miss. At the other end of the price range, you can find an escort girl on one of the many London websites and visit her (typical price £200 the hour) or have her come to your hotel (£250 and up). This is expensive, and also variable in quality. At les girls, whichever lady you choose, you know that you are dealing with someone who is working of her own free will and who will love giving you pleasure, whether you arrive as her first visitor at mid-day or her twenty-fifth at midnight. And the place is welcoming and cosy. Give us feedback, bonvivant, on your visit.

[Merlin Magician]

on soho, a recent post suggested that the walkups are hit or miss. the nice thing about punting in soho is this: if you go up to one and you do not like what you see, then politely excuse yourself and go on to the next door with it's intrigueing little cardboard sign. the ladies expect this, so don't be shy about it. also it was mentioned that there were 50 apartments or so in soho; try 150.

do not, whatever the hell you do, never ever fucking deal with anyone in the street. it's guaranteed you will be robbed or scammed by anyone who is operating outside the door of a doorway or on the street. watch out for fools who will offer to show the best apts to check out. they will take your money and tell you then to knock and the girl in the apt will know nothing of the deal. this is the oldest scam in soho.

and, never ever never, go into any of the peep shows or strip bars in soho. do so and you will get fucked without even getting a kiss.

[Bonvivant]

murilloa, merlin,
thank you for the good information and taking the time to post. much appreciation here!
murilloa; i'm not familiar with the rules of this board, but i'll ask anyway. can i expect more than typical FS from les girls? that is any luck of anal, CIM, ATM or any of these goodies? your Lori sounds great, and I will be there on a friday!
what is a good tip for the maid? sorry to ask all this, but as I said I'll be new to town and I know these things are important to me to know in my neighbor hood.....
best,
bonviant

[Murilloa]

bonvivant,

To tell the truth, I'm not sure what range of extras the les girls beauties offer. Reports on ********* imply that they have different attitudes. I'm quite careful and do not ask ladies for anything they do not suggest and I have always clad myself in 'love's rubber armour' before entering mouth or pussy at les girls or anywhere else. But I guess it's just a matter of what you ask for, how nicely you ask, and whether they feel they want to and can trust you. I am going to London next Friday, Feb 7th, and lovely Lori is going to feel the full force of a long-hoarded orgasm. Or two. or three...

I'll report on this visit - do the same, and good luck, bonvivant

PS tip for the maid - £2 to £5, the latter if you've had a long wait and been offered friendly conversation with a cup of tea or a glass of wine or juice.

[goodness]

Hi,

Could anyone tell me what the walkups in shepards market is like, and is it safe?

Thanks

[Murilloa]

Perfectly safe, goodness. Shepherd's Market is a quaint and interesting area to wander round, and you can eat well there, too. The walkups are very much fewer in number than in Soho (I stand corrected by merlins's recent post to the effect that the number of flats in Soho is nearer 150 than 50) and you will not find the very cheapest end of the range, the £20-25 shot favoured by the poor or the hurried. But there are quality experiences to be had, especially I think for 'orientalists', Try your luck - you needn't have the slightest worry about safety - and tell us how it works out.

[Merlin Magician]

To see the best of Shepard's Market, proceed north up Buckingham Road from Park Lane. Take a left at White Horse Lane and wander the quiet streets in this area. You will not see nearly as many walkups but you will see the little cardboard signs. Prices here may be more than twice the average Soho Tarts, but the time is usually twice as long also.

Same thing here too; if you don't like what you see, politely leave and go on to the next little cardboard sign that strikes your fancy. Proceed west back toward the Marble Arch area. You can't miss out easily. 50 to 60 quid average price for 30 minutes of "half an half."

Much safer and quieter neighborhood. None of "hustle and bustle" of Soho.

[BrendanGooch]

Guys,

If you want high class *****s, you'll find them at the Hilton Hotel at Park Lane.

Yesterday I was invited to a mates party which took place on the 28th floor of the Hilton Hotel in park lane. Once I had checked in I decided to explore the bars in the hotel starting with the one in the basement followed by the ones on the 28th floor.

On the basement floor. I couldn't help notice at least half dozen hookers hanging around the bar. One of the girls was a thai, the others were of eastern descent. Very attractive looking.

As I sat down drinking my beer I noticed one of them looking across at me. Two of the girls had already caught the attention of 2 american tourists who were sitting in the corner rather drunk.

Within minutes both girls were in conversation with the american tourists. Within 1/2 hour both girls were whisked of by the tourists to their rooms for some hanky panky.

A couple of girls I found hanging around the "Zeta bar" on the 28th floor again very stunning probably either russian or czeh.

[Saint]

I've never been to the UK and find myself there at the end of this month. I'll only have one day to hobby. Can anyone suggest a nice hotel to stay in that isn't too expensive but is clean and in a good part of town. I'm flying in from Gatwick. I hear taking the train is the best option and is very quick and cheap. Is that true?

I plan on trying out a few different girls. That lesgirls.com place sounds interesting. Which Hilton is the one guys are talking about? Please post the specific address and I'll check the scene out. Thanks in advance to all those that post.

Saint

[Merlin Magician]

saint, you can ride the metro into victoria station from gatwick pretty cheap. like 3 quid or so. heathrow express to/from heathrow is like 19 quid.

nice hotels are fairly reasonable in the area around victoria station. belgravia has many clean b&b's. so does the area around paddington station. i recommend the area around marble arch close by hyde park. you can use smoothe-hound.com to locate affordable lodging in these areas. i usually use the admiral hotel on sussex garderns in paddington. a quiet little family operated b&b. no punting allowed at the hotel.

also marble arch is close to mayfair/shepard's market where you will find many walk-ups with the quaint little cardboard signs. very safe area here.

if you go to soho, take oxford st. to berwick. walk toward picadilly circus on berwick and you will pass duck lane with it's cottage house and further down, nearly to peter street you will find on your left blore court where is les girls. right across from the safeway.

if you go to soho, be very extra careful. deal with no one but the girls inside the apartments. anyone and i mean anyone on the street is to be avoided at all costs. 90% of the soho clubs and peeps are to be avoided too.

[Saint]

Thanks Merlin. I already have done quite a bit of research the past few days. I've found out that I can take Gatwick Express to Victoria Station. I booked a room at a hotel in the Knightsbridge area. I got a pretty good rate of $120 US a night which is at least double that during weeknights.

I'll definitely hit Blore House in SoHo. I'll be careful in SoHo. I've hobbied extensively in South America. I'm meeting one of the CH members that lives in London one of my days there.

Any other advice on the hobbying scene would be greatly appreciated. London sounds expensive for the hottest girls (about the same for the high quality escorts of USA). One girl quoted a 2 girl session for one hour for 400 pounds or $640 US. That same two girl combo in USA would be $600 US. Ouch.

[TravelingDave]

Gentelmen:

I will be visiting London shortly for a few days. I will be staying in central London. From a review of the web sites on the net there does not seem to be a shortage of lovely woman at the agencies.
Im not one for going out to look so I would prefer an "outcall"

Very pricey though I would say the most starting at 250, so for that kind of money I would expect qulality. Can anyone suggest which agencies are real and would reccomend them and which to stay away from? Any particular ladies that anyone can recommend? What about the independent ones.

TIA for your feedback

[VividGuy]

Hi guys, am new in the punting game. Is it standard practice that a 1 hour session includes two shots if the client so desired? Are there people/places that do this in london?

Thanks

[LatinTraveller]

Saint

I have followed your travels in Latin America so I know where you are coming from.

Arriving at Gatwick there are three choices of train to London:

The Gatwick Express is non-stop, takes about 30 minutes to Victoria and costs about US$17.

Connex stops maybe a couple of times (depending on the train) takes about 38 minutes to Victoria and costs about US$15. and;

Thameslink stops once or twice, takes about 33 minutes to London Bridge and costs about US$16.

Some airlines have special deals on train fares from Gatwick to London so check this out.

As for hotels, check the big providers: travelocity, expedia etc..., choose one you like and contact the hotel directly by e-mail. At this time of the year in London with war looming you will be able to get a good deal.

Take care and enjoy.

As for women check out these sites:

www.*********.com; or

www.captain69.co.uk

LatinTraveller

[Saint]

LatinTraveller,

Thanks amigo. Yeah, I've done the research on the transportation and hotels. I'm all set now. I have an appointment already booked for a high-class escort. Pricey at 200 pounds per hour but oh well.

I'm gonna take the Gatwick Express.

http://www.gatwickexpress.co.uk/

Sounds like the best option. I'm staying in the Knightsbridge area. This definitely won't be the cheapest hobbying trip I have taken. I have a date with a normal girl the day I arrive. I'll try to post a detailed report when I get back.

Cheers all. Life is good.

Saint

[Murilloa]

Saint - enjoy London. I know it's not cheap, so don't miss out on Les Girls and if you feel strong there is another venue on Berwick St. number 70a, cheaper still and excellent value. Personally I would rather blow £200 on three or four Berwick Street punts in 24 hours, than all in one shot with an escort who may or may not give value. Tell us how it went, saint - we respect that well-earned southamerican reputation.
Back to Lisbon life for me - not the best hobbyland but not barren either as my reports from that venue attest. Next trip to London and a Friday with Lori in May... remote possibility of Buenos Aires in midwinter August. Oh for a week in BA right now...

[TravelingDave]

Once again...can anyone suggest a reliable agency?

Thanks

[Saint]

Murilloa,

Thanks for the advice amigo. I will see a number of girls during my short trip. I'll definitely hit Les Girls (Blore House) and I'll try to check out that place you mentioned too. How much is that place? I will definitely keep my session with the expensive hottie too. I'll probably see 3 or 4 girls during a 2 day span. I gotta spend 24 hours with my girl.

Yeah...I'd love to be in Buenos Aires right now too but I'll be there again next month and two weeks in May. I want to take more hobbying adventures in Europe this year. I might hit Germany and Spain this summer. Would love to hook up with you if you're still in Europe.

Saint

[Bonvivant]

Muriolla..and others:

Of my recent trip to London I am happy to report:

London pumps, in every way... hobby and otherwise! What a great time I had...( though I was shocked at how quickly the good ole US dollars flew from my pocket, my god, it's like you get 50 quid for 100 bucks, but then the price of everything is the same number as if it was dollars).
I did make a trip to Blore House, saw Chelsea (Mur, I think I was there the same evening as you...two fridays ago or so, and Lori was booked, that 's a little creepy, huh?) paid 90 for 45min plus. Chelsea is very sweet, gives you the feeling of a gfe, O with, multiple positions, encouraging talk, makes you feel good and it seems important to her that you do.....I was pretty satisfied and it was a great value, but for my taste not nasty enough....next time I'll try some of the walk-ups mentioned, Sheperds etc.... Can't wait to get back.

I do reccomend Blore House though, for those of you considering. It is convenient and friendly though a bit hard to find. "Blore Court" is about a a four foot wide tiny alley, easy as hell to miss, but you will find it. I didn't feel any trepidation there as some earlier posts have mentioned. Go by all means.
London rocks.

Bonvivant

[Murilloa]

bonvivant
- glad you enjoyed dear old London, although, yes, those ££s just leap out of your pocket and dance away along the streets. We were indeed in town the same Friday (ostensibly attending the same international event I wonder??). Weird that you were probably relishing Chelsea while I was upstairs with Lovely Lori. She told me they are friends from college, in fact it was Chelsea who did the world a favour by introducing Lori to Blore House a year ago. My next trip to London will be in May - until then I shall continue the tireless and fairly lone efforts to keep the world up to date with Lisbon.

saint
- as your trip approaches...bon voyage. To answer your question, the prices at 70a Berwick St go from £20 for a quickie, to £45 twenty minutes 'dream time', to £60 half an hour. Blore House starts at £60 half an hour, no quickies. The basic difference is that BH aims more at the charming sweet erotic girlfriend experience, while 70a with its two apartments full of uniforms and apparatus, is the hard porn movie scene. Bonvivant said that after enjoying Chelsea at BH he still yearned for something 'nastier'. His ideal Friday would be an early afternoon half hour with Lori or Chelsea, a couple of hours in the British Museum, then back to Soho in the evening for a 45 minute raging porn session with Amber. Total cost £105 (the museum is free...!)
We await your report.

[OwnaFord1994]

Some of you must be Berwick st chamber of comerce. Still talking about Blore house all those years?

At least I can speak for American tourist. Locals don't go there. Come on, you go there because you can read and speak English. Pick up local papers in News agents with adult classified, and call any agency that you fancy. Or search the Internet. Looking for individual girls is really needle in the hay stack. Therefore the girls need agents, and agents can provide good service. Talk to the agent for the type of girls you want. Then talk to the girl on the phone. Ask for detail descriptions and what she would or would not do, including shower, kiss, 2nd pop etc etc. For around 150 GBP they will treat you as VIP, looks beats those 600 USD blondes in USA. Let them know that you are there the 1st night of your 2, 4 week business trip and they will try to make you fall in love, cum with you, so you will call them every other night. Those 200 to 300 are 18 to 22 model types, though much more natural than those USA counterparts. 150's are more likely 17, or 25 years old.

When the girl appear at the door and doesn't meet your requirements, turn her away and ask for another, or change agent. In London, you don't need to wait for another 30 min. You don't need to look at photos, the girls had their own private life and don't want to show their faces on the internet. I seldom disappoint in their pretty faces. And you can ask them to wear anything under their overcoat, so you can check out the merchandize first.

The rich small towns in the South is even more interesting. In you don't believe me, I will show you some more economic analysis next time.

[Chesh]

Greetings fellow punters, I am a hobbyist from across the Atlantic who was considering another trip to one of my favourite cities. My last visit to London was in the summer of 2001. Has the scene changed much since? When I was in town, I relied upon the cards in the phone boxes for my locating of services. I wonder, are the phone boxes still littered with these cards? Perhaps the cards are not the best way to go, but I had eight delightful encounters with as many charming women for around 75-100 quid a go. However, I must admit that I am only a novice when it comes to London. I suppose my main questions are the following:
Are the cards still there, and where could I possibly encounter working girls of Indian descent?

Thanks, and stay safe! Laters!

[TravelingDave]

Originally posted by ownaford1994
Some of you must be Berwick st chamber of comerce. Still talking about Blore house all those years?

At least I can speak for American tourist. Locals don't go there. Come on, you go there because you can read and speak English. Pick up local papers in News agents with adult classified, and call any agency that you fancy. Or search the Internet. Looking for individual girls is really needle in the hay stack. Therefore the girls need agents, and agents can provide good service. Talk to the agent for the type of girls you want. Then talk to the girl on the phone. Ask for detail descriptions and what she would or would not do, including shower, kiss, 2nd pop etc etc. For around 150 GBP they will treat you as VIP, looks beats those 600 USD blondes in USA. Let them know that you are there the 1st night of your 2, 4 week business trip and they will try to make you fall in love, cum with you, so you will call them every other night. Those 200 to 300 are 18 to 22 model types, though much more natural than those USA counterparts. 150's are more likely 17, or 25 years old.

When the girl appear at the door and doesn't meet your requirements, turn her away and ask for another, or change agent. In London, you don't need to wait for another 30 min. You don't need to look at photos, the girls had their own private life and don't want to show their faces on the internet. I seldom disappoint in their pretty faces. And you can ask them to wear anything under their overcoat, so you can check out the merchandize first.

The rich small towns in the South is even more interesting. In you don't believe me, I will show you some more economic
analysis next time. Ownaford,

Great info and I would like to know from your experience if you can reccomend a reliable agency.

Thanks,

Dave

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by chesh
Are the cards still there, and where could I possibly encounter working girls of Indian descent?

They really try hard to clean up the cards, it's really too bad, in every major thorough fare across Greater London. Out of sight telephone boxes are also full of more local oriented cards. It's a joke when you cross the road from Harrods or Harve Nicoles to make a call, and you see those embrassing cards. But it's not the first time, and may not be the last.

I always don't recommend the cards. It can be fun if you have the time and wants one pop without too much foreplay and pillow talk. It's like a hunting game and you can check out all the girls on the street all by walking, perhaps with the help of the tube. I did find one or two teenage model types as in yahoo clubs and on the net that make a lot of fuss across the alantic. But I rather find some agents and tell him/her what I want. Saves a lot of foot work and time.

Cards girls are all incalls, full time professionals. They are the higher volume types. They operate under some time pressure. They and their helpers have to answer a lot of detail enquiry calls for each punter that ventures up the stairs. Outcalls with daytime jobs are those I prefer. They don't normally get that many clients lining up and they can take their time, work up their mood and cum with you if you manage.

The girls and prices are not that different. Those card/incall girls charges around GBP 60 for one pop. If you see one you like you can play for GBP 120 to GBP 150 per hour. The more attractive ones are also on the books of agencies, answering outcalls. But normally you can tell whether they are full time or semi-pros. Central London don't have that many semi-pros as other areas, but more run aways, girls trying to be models, or girls who think they are too attractive to stay at their home town for all their life where nothing happens.

London has a lot of Asian population, partically Indians and Parkistanis - similar culture - expects anal with their future husband or boyfriend, who also expects to do both sides with their future wives or girlfriends all the time. But statistics is not on your side - minority in Britain is 1 %? I know where the Aussies are - Earls Court, and I met a few around Soho and including Blore. But as far as I know there's no area specializes in Indians, not in London anyway. Though if you find some agency on line or on papers, look for some that provide Ethnic girls. All agent must try to distinguish themselves from others. Just ask them. Shouldn't take much time. Not recommended anyway. In Britain the best bet should be pale skin fair hair types - teen models, large Las Vages dancers, BBW or those jealously referred to as small blondes.

[Saint]

Murilloa,

Hey. Thanks for posting that information. I'm looking forward to my trip to London. I've researched a good bit from the Captain 69's site. I have an appointment with a few of the most highly reviewed girls on that site. I formally hobbied A LOT in the USA but haven't in the past year or so. Frankly I still have a bit of sticker shock from some of these hotties. Most are quoting £300 per hour ($475 US). I usually go with the flow in a city though. You can't compare a city like London to the prices in South America.

I'll try to post a detailed report after I return although I might take another trip somewhere the same week I return so it could be a while. Thanks again.

Saint

P.S. Anyone know if the girls in the houses would let you take pictures of them with a digital camera? Just curious.

[Chesh]

ownaford1994,
Thanks for the thorough reply to my post. I greatly and sincerely appreciate your time. I trust that the information you provided will be very useful during my next trip.
As I mentioned before, London is one of my favourite cities, and the idea of mongering there is very appealing. Knowing that there are much more interesting sides of the hobby there to investigate creates a lot of excitement and anticipation. I do enjoy this hobby!
Thanks again!

[VividGuy]

Chesh, came across this, can't vouch for it in anyway but call and see if they can provide you with what you want, and by the way the term "Asian" is used to describe people of Indian descent in the UK. Couple of agencies have indian girls as well, check captain69 and search - escorts - asian

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[Chesh]

VividGuy,
Excellant, that sounds like the place for me! Also, thanks for the correction, I do remember now that Indians/Pakistanis are referred to as Asian. By the way, when I was last there it seemed that there was some racial strife between some of the English and some of the Asians. Especially when I visited the Northern area of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Liverpool, etc. Is that still a problem from time to time? Thanks for all your info and helping a dumb yank out. Cheers!

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by TravelingDave
Ownaford,

Great info and I would like to know from your experience if you can reccomend a reliable agency.

Thanks,

Dave
Can't help much, I'm a bit adventurous, didn't use the same agents all the time. I don't go there every other month so the smaller agencies info may not be update. My favorite are those small agencies outside of London, advertise occasionally in regional newspapers that you can find only a few copies in gas stations, or more copies at the corner of news agencies.

For larger London agencies, you can find then in Captan69 sites, etc. You can judge by the number of girls they have and the service they provide in general. Personally I won't go for those girls with a lot of reviews. If you understand that how many girls pack up everyday and get on to the train to London with a single ticket, the way to get these train load of girls is to be a bit adventurous. I also find that those larger agencies charging GBP 200 to 300 is a bit too much. I have pleasant surprises time and time again for a lot less.

If you know how to use agencies, most are reliable. If you give enough motivation to the girls, most give good service. There are just too many competition, which is good for buyers. US is totally different in that since it's illegal, you can't even ask relevant questions, so many agencies and girls take the advantage of law to rip you off. Sometimes they are forced to rip you off. If you ask difficult questions, either you are LE or newbie. Instead of risking being arrested, they will grab the money and run.

Let me give you some of my best experiences. Once I was in a hurry. I found Moonlight on some classified sites in the net. The reason is that I'm not staying in London but they also do incalls. I was thinking about something in the line of 20 year old, 34C/D 24 36, 5'9. The agent interrupted me before I gave him all the specs. I guess he didn't have that many girls like the larger agencies, who vouch to match what you want in appearance. After a while, he call back to suggest an 18 year old blond, blue eyes. That was only 150. I talk to her for a while. When I hear her young, mature sexy voice, I let her get away with murmuring about her statistics. When I met her she was totally not what I was in mind. But I couldn't have thought of anything better than her. She was one of those skinny teenage model types, can be 16 to 20 that I can't tell. 5'6 to 7, which is a tall doll. A healthy snow white with an expensive school girl blob cut. Cling to my body most of the time. She was new to London. I met her in her tiny studio where she lived, complete with a bicycle beside the bed, and a pair of perfectly gloomed cat. Wanted to setup herself up as the other incall girls with her own working flat. Indeed she is moving to her working flat next week. Very eager to please as she didn't have that many client. And that's why agencies increase her chance of being discovered.

The other time I tried a small agent in a small prosperous type of town south of London. The agent said she didn't have 18's but her top girl is a 25 year old, brownish blond, and she is a nurse. Then I remembered that the ad said they agency specializes in nurses, secretaries, teachers students – I would add that they are the worst paying professionals. But compared to their US counterparts, they are sexy as hell. I didn't think you can verify a girls occupation, and does it matter? Anyway I agreed to try the nurse. I am glad I did. Our tongue locked themselves most of the time. Now I can tell you how to spot a real nurse by a hundred details from head to toe.

Sorry about the length, I got carried away thinking about those. I really like to hear from those who aren't shy to say that London is their favorite city. I have been known to fly to London for thanks giving weekend. It's my cup of tea!

For a balanced opinion, I don't think agencies are useful if you want to find someone that will do special things, like BBBJ, greek, facial etc. You had better luck by going in the phone boxes, call them, or search reviews in the net. But then most girls do fantasy dresses, and a bit or role play, very common in Europe. Also, most agencies will only deal with over 18 girls. However, the details in the agents' books are not that accurate. Of course the agents don't know the girls, and don't verify the details. The agent's job is to search their books for hair color, eye color, height, weight, measurements, age etc. You had better confirm when you talk to the girls. The agent will drop girls that are found lying. The bottom line is that prepare to turn the girls away after letting them in first, see what's under their coat, and talk to them a bit. They will never refuse to go away quietly. Because of this, I found that most girls are irresistible at the door. Otherwise, they will just waste their own time.

[ChicagoBoy23]

Can anybody recommend any strip joint action near Heathrow airport ?

Not interested in going all the way but some touchy feely would be nice !

[TheKnight]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chesh

[By the way, when I was last there it seemed that there was some racial strife between some of the English and some of the Asians. Especially when I visited the Northern area of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Liverpool, etc. Is that still a problem from time to time?]

If you're respectful there are no probs. Mind you, I would recommend heading up north to Manchester, which is now on a par with any western European city for quality/price/service.

[Chesh]

theknight,
Thanks for the info, I will indeed visit Manchester!
Laters!

[TravelingDave]

ownaford,

Thanks for your input. I will let you know how it goes. I've heard elsewhere about academy-girls/overnigt angels. Any input on this outfit? Anyone else have input?

TIA

travelingdave

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by TravelingDave
I've heard elsewhere about academy-girls/overnigt angels. Any input on this outfit? Anyone else have input?
I think I browse through those agencies before. Somewhat gimicky. Anything other than a nurse will be difficult for me to verify. Overnight will be too pricy for the type of girls I like. (Slovak will be the place for me to do overnight.) But don't take my word for it. Talk to the agents and the girls themselves.

[BrendanGooch]

Saint,

The Hilton Hotel you need to go to is based at Park Lane in London. Rather then me explaining how to get there. Its about £8 by taxi to get there from Victoria station.

Check out both bars on friday evenings.

Originally posted by saint
I've never been to the UK and find myself there at the end of this month. I'll only have one day to hobby. Can anyone suggest a nice hotel to stay in that isn't too expensive but is clean and in a good part of town. I'm flying in from Gatwick. I hear taking the train is the best option and is very quick and cheap. Is that true?

I plan on trying out a few different girls. That lesgirls.com place sounds interesting. Which Hilton is the one guys are talking about? Please post the specific address and I'll check the scene out. Thanks in advance to all those that post.

Saint

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by BrendanGooch
Saint,

The Hilton Hotel you need to go to is based at Park Lane in London. Rather then me explaining how to get there. Its about £8 by taxi to get there from Victoria station.

Check out both bars on friday evenings. Probably too late now. Anyway, Hilton and Bore house don't mix. If you want to try a few girls then distance is important. I doubt if the Bore girls will want to go out far, because they are very busy in good time. Tourist class hotels such as Regent Palace in Piccadilly Circus (major tube station) are more like it. Within walking distance. Cannot be any shorter because Bore is the worst part of town, safe but run down.

I follow Saint's thread with interest. Yes, Knightsbridge is good to stay too. Drop your girl in Harrods or Harvey Nicoles, you can have an hr or 2 to yourself. Walk across to the phone booth and if the cards are still there, find something you fancy and call, make sure they are close by. Of course hit and miss comapred to Bore. If you don't have time, Bore is the solution, but it can be very busy. IMO, LA massage palors are much better.

I have also done this. Drop the girl shopping in the morning. Went back to the hotel. Call an agency. Do it. Send in the cleaners! Still have plenty of time to have lunch in room.

Have fun.

[TravelingDave]

Originally posted by ownaford1994
I think I browse through those agencies before. Somewhat gimicky. Anything other than a nurse will be difficult for me to verify. Overnight will be too pricy for the type of girls I like. (Slovak will be the place for me to do overnight.) But don't take my word for it. Talk to the agents and the girls themselves.

ownaford..

Any nurses in London that you know and willing to share?

Dave

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by TravelingDave
ownaford..

Any nurses in London that you know and willing to share?

Dave
The agencies I use serve the towns in the county south of London. I don't remember seeing the same thing in central London. Sure the girls will travel across towns and probably into London. However it's difficult for the 1st time - you have to find the occasional adv in regional newspapers, it could be a longer wait, and it's too easy for a girl to be rejected at the door after traveling far.

But all full-time incall girls have nurse (and many other) uniforms. If you want that sort of fantasy, book in advance and insist on that. For popular uniforms they are usually dirty :-). You need to reserve a clean one.

[Saint]

I had just returned from my Montreal trip with Kick Stand and Seaman. I had a great time with them. I was on Instant Messenger with them and UWPhoto just laughing and talking about more adventures. Then this girl that I occasionally chat with on instant messenger IM’s me. I met her in Boston a few years ago. She was half Scottish and half British and was great in bed. She moved back to the UK a few years ago but we kept in touch. Every so often we’ll flirt online and she’ll ask me when I’m going to see her. She IM’s me and asks if I had forgotten about her. I tell her of course not. She inevitably asks, “When are you going to cum see me”. I tell her how about the end of this month. At first she thought I was kidding.

Airfares to London are relatively cheap now. American Airlines is having a price war with British Airways so you can find a ticket to the UK for under $500 - $600 US right now from most major cities. On a whim I went on AA’s website and bought a ticket. I really shouldn’t have because I’ve already taken a ton of time off from work this year but I just told myself life is short. You’ve got to play hard. Besides… it was just a long weekend. I wanted to go in style so I upgraded to Business class.

There is not much information on the London scene. It’s probably because it’s so damn expensive. I was mainly going to see my girl but I knew I’d hobby too. In fact, I told her that I only had one day to spend with her then I had “business” to take care of. I asked Kick Stand who has been to the UK many times on business what he thought of the scene there. He said to stay away. I asked Sea Man who lived there a few years. He said basically the same thing and that he has never hobbied there. Everyone was telling me what I already knew…. That it would cost a lot.

I quickly discovered that London is a very expensive city. I couldn’t decide what hotel I’d stay in. There are so many choices. Most of the 4 and 5 star hotels are pricey. This Pounds to US $ conversion sucks! Now I know how the Canadians feel with their worthless currency. The conversion rate of the Pound is worse than what the Canadians go through with the US $. Take any Pound price and multiply it by 1.60 to get the US equivalent. (The reality of the exchange rate hit me when at the airport I changed over $200 US and only got back like 115 pounds). Most hotels that I’d stay in were quoting between $150 US to $300+ US a night. Ouch. And that was the weekend rate. During the week it was sometimes double that price.

I went on several websites and found a suitable choice in the Kensington area. The other alternatives would have been Knightsbridge. There are not any luxury hotels in the Soho area yet that I’m aware of. Although one of the ones I would be interested in is being built now: http://www.londonhoteljobshop.com/nhb.htm Click on Soho hotel. The other one I really wanted to stay in is on that same webpage. The Knightsbridge Hotel looks like a nice boutique hotel but is $250+ US a night.

A great option is the hotel I picked. It was The Copthorne Tara in Kensington. A modern “true” 4 star hotel. The normal rates are 160 pounds ($255 US) a night. Luckily with tourism being slow I got a rate of $150 US with tax per night. That might sound expensive but it’s actually a good rate for that area of London which was really posh.

Since I’ve never been to London I had to really research how I’d get to my hotel. All my friends told me to take the Express metro’s and to avoid taxi’s. Taxi’s are not only more expensive but it takes longer too. I was flying into Gatwick and not Heathrowe which is further out. You can take the Gatwick Express - http://www.gatwickexpress.co.uk to get into the city. Prices are a lot cheaper than taxi’s and they look nice. You can go first class for 17.50 pounds ($28 US) or regular 11 pounds($18). If you are flying into Heathrowe you can check out - http://www.heathrowexpress.co.uk/. Get on Train #1 headed to Victoria Station.

Once you arrive in London you’ll take the Metro system there or taxi’s. The “Tube” is very cheap. http://www.thetube.com/content/tubemap/ I was really impressed by the metro system there.


I did a ton of research before I went. I find out that generally Soho is not a good area because there are tons of scam artists there. However, I did keep hearing about a decent house in the West End called Blore House. http://www.lesgirls.co.uk/lghome.htm
The girls typically got good reviews. Many pricing options including ½ hour at 60 pounds($96 US); 45 minutes for 90 pounds ($145 US); 1 hour 115 pounds ($185 US) ; 2 hours - 225 pounds ($365 US) or all-nighters at 750 pounds ($1200 US). I’ve done an all-nighter before in the USA with a high class girl back when I had a ton of money and I paid $1200 US for an all-nighter so it was about the same price. However, you wouldn’t want to spend that kind of money on any girls in the Soho area.

Blore House has a top flat and a bottom flat and each has a girl working in the respective level. There is a schedule on their website. I detailed my visit below. Christy and Rebecca were working. I visited Christy because Rebecca was already in a session. I never got to see what she looked like.

I also went to http://www.blonde-escorts-uk.co.uk/home.php which had a TON of hottie girls. I emailed a few and got a general feel for the prices. HIGH. Not much different than hobbying in the USA. I hobbied a ton in the USA several years ago when I was married because it was safer than dating normal girls and then having her freak out on me. Remember, nothing in life is free. Often times it’s easier to do the pay-to-play thing even if you don’t have to. Relationships aren’t all that they are cracked up to be.

There is also tons of information on http://www.*********.com/index1.html It takes some time to go through some of it and you have to invest some time researching but you can find some gems. It was through this page that I made email contact with one of the girl’s.


Around about this time I connect with DonPaolo from the CH board. Great guy! He tells me that if I gave him my phone number he would be happy to call me up and suggest some places. Sure enough a few days later he calls me on my cell phone. Great guy that is very helpful. UWPhoto told me that he met him in Rio and said he was a cool guy. DonPaolo and I reminisced about Rio and he told me he would send me an email with some recommendations of higher end girls.

He asks who I’m set up with already and I tell him “Caprice”. His response was simply, “BRILLIANT!!!” He told me about a site called Captain69 in the UK. (Our version of a private pay review site - $10 US /month). http://www.captain69.co.uk I access the member’s area to read reviews. I find about 80 reviews of “Caprice” but I come to the conclusion that I booked with the wrong “Caprice”. Wow. The reviews of THIS Caprice were amazing. This one had been in all these pornos and almost every single guy posted of an incredible experience. DonPaolo assured me that this Caprice is amazing.

As you can imagine, the price was also sky high. 300 pounds per hour ($475 US). (http://www.caprice-escorts.co.uk/caprice.html ) I tell myself that I will only see one upscale escort and the rest I’ll hit more economical girls. I email and book an appointment with her.

You guys have to be really careful. There are several girls and agency with the world “Caprice” in them. A very popular name for escorts and agencies I guess. I was getting mixed up with emails from that name.

The weekend before I was to arrive in London my new friend DonPaolo calls me again. We have a really great conversation lasting about 45 minutes or so. He is telling me about this hottie Sadie that he saw that is new in town. http://www.alluring-escorts.net/sadie.htm Damn she looks hot!! Remember, I was telling myself that I would only do ONE high-class escort. I really wanted to see her too but simply didn’t have any time this trip.

DP and I talked about the entire scene there. He has never done any girls in the Soho area including Blore House. He tells me that he’ll show me where it is. I probably wouldn’t hit those areas either if I lived there. I wanted to try some adventures though and see how it is. We agreed to meet up one of the days I was there. He gives me his cellphone number and I’m set.

Some might think it unthinkable going to London for a long weekend but if you think about it, it is easier going to London for a long weekend than South America. It is a direct non-stop flight for me. The flight is actually shorter too. I fly on American Airlines and the flight is very comfortable. I was in business class so I actually got some sleep with the help of some Ambien. I arrived at Gatwick and I jumped on the Gatwick Express. Very effortless and was 11 pounds as described on their website. The ride was quick and easy and took around 35 minutes to get to Victoria Station. At Victoria Station you get on the Circle Line. I got off 3 short stops at High Street – Kensington (yellow line). The reason I’m describing it in detail is in case someone wants to take a trip to London it will give you exactly what you need to do.

My hotel was only one block from the stop where I got off. Great four-star hotel as described. I got lucky because the tourism seems to be suffering here. As I mentioned it’s a great hotel if you decide to come to London in a great part of town. The staff was all great and they have a full-service concierge.

One thing I noticed right away is there aren’t too many good looking girls in London. Everywhere you go most of the girls are ugly. There are very few head turners. You can walk around for hours without seeing any good looking girls. The ones that are good looking are either tourists or girls from other countries that are living here. Walking around I could hear a lot of girls speaking Spanish (from Spain), Italian, Russian and German.

My normal girl was near my hotel and came over to my hotel within hours of me checking in. I was a little nervous since I hadn’t seen her in person in a few years. She looked better than ever. We went right at it and we only left the room two times in 24 hours to eat. Wow. I felt bad for lying to her. I told her that I had some “business” to take care of the next day. I of course had no business other than seeing some escorts. She lived a few hours away and came to London specifically to see me. Part of me just wanted to spend the weekend with her but the monger in me was stronger and I sent her packing. (Kind of like having a little angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other).

The following day I called up my new friend, DonPaolo. We chatted and he agreed to meet me at the metro station near my hotel. It was pouring rain outside. Luckily I had the good sense to pack a good umbrella for this trip. It rained the first 2 days of my trip. DonPaolo was a really cool guy. Likeable in every sense. We hit it off on the telephone but he was as good of a guy in person. I really feel lucky to have hooked up with him. We grabbed some lunch at a cool little restaurant in the Kensington area near my hotel. The food was good. DP was really good company and even refused my offer to pick up the check and paid for our lunch.

After lunch I wanted to go exploring to some the area where some of the walk-ups are. Specifically I was interested in seeing where Blore House was. We walked around for a good bit and he showed me the typical walk-up. He also showed me the Soho area. Many sexual oriented places and a lot of gay clubs it looked like. Generally the area that you wouldn’t really spend too much time in but it was interesting to see.

DonPaolo knew that I was interested in seeing Blore House. I had read from reports that it was very difficult to find. Those previous gentlemen were not lying. It was raining so that made it even more difficult to find with umbrellas and rain everywhere. We walked around for about 20 minutes and couldn’t find the street it was on. We knew it was on Blore Court but that is literally a small alley. After a while I wanted to give up since it wasn’t too important to me. DonPaolo was determined. He didn’t want to let it “beat him.” We asked around and no one knew where it was. Finally we spotted it. It is extremely difficult to find. Outside on the bottom of the flat there is a small sign. This is an area that I probably wouldn’t feel comfortable alone at night in. Definitely print out the map located at: http://www.lesgirls.co.uk/map.htm

I didn’t know what to expect. To be honest I wasn’t expecting much. We ring a door bell and a lady buzzes us up. We walk upstairs and immediately you see a sign that has the name of two girls. I think this particular day it said Rebecca and Christina. We get upstairs and there is a door behind some iron doors. Obviously this is for the girls protection. A very polite woman comes and let’s us in. She sits us on a couch and offers us something to drink. I already knew the routine but confirm it with her. It was the prices I noted above. It’s funny because as we were sitting there some dude calls and she runs down the prices with him and the descriptions of the two girls. She gave some measurements but after seeing the girl it was clear she was fibbing.

I asked to see the girls but one was already in a session and one was getting dressed. She invites me to enter one of the bedrooms and wait for the girl. So I’m in there waiting when this girl comes in. She wasn’t anything to write home about. In fact, I wasn’t attracted at all. When she asked if I wanted any services I wanted so badly to say no. But the true adventurer in me shined through. I told DonPaolo that I wanted to just have a 30 minute session just for the heck of it. He was a good sport and waited. The girl was half British and half Indian so she had a pretty unique look to her. She isn’t a girl that I would even do for free outside of the hobby. I was curious how the session would be. It was 60 Pounds($96 US) for the ½ hour session.

I remember thinking to myself that I chased away a hottie that wanted to spend another few days with me. Oh well…just part of the adventure.

She starts off with a pretty good massage with oil. Then she had be turn over and did some pretty good Russian. She allowed deep kissing, performed an excellent covered BJ, and was pretty open to anything. During the session she constantly asked what my favorite positions were. Probably close to 30 minutes I finished. Afterwards she was chatting and asking me all these questions but I knew DP was waiting so I just wanted to get dressed. She never hit me up for a tip but before the session she asked if I wanted to tip something for the maid. I didn’t have any small Pound notes so I just gave her $5 US. I wouldn’t hit Blore House again but it was worth experiencing. I took “one for the team” just for research’s sake there. The place was clean and the staff was friendly. Plus, if you don’t like the looks of the girls you can leave with no obligation.

I get outside of the room and DP is all smiles. One thing I gotta mention is that if anyone gets the chance to hook up with DP they definitely should. It was very clear right away that DonPaolo and I had some things in common. He is a really laid-back, affable guy. I forgot my umbrella up in Blore House and remembered a block away. He was nice enough to go back with me and get it. These international adventures are great but it’s even better when you make true friends. I’m sure I made a great friend in DP and I’m positive I’ll hook up with him again this year. I’m pretty sure I’ll be back in London this year and we are planning a trip to Buenos Aires this September.

I had a date that night with Caprice. I think DP was as excited as I was. He told me a lot about her and I had high expectations going in. I think he was also a little nervous. He personally referred her and you all know that feeling when you talk a girl up to a buddy. You want him to have as good a experience as you had. Especially at Pounds300 an hour. That is a shit load of money. Actually it was 350 Pounds($560 US) for an outcall but she promised to not be a clock watcher and wasn’t.

After we left Blore House we hopped on the underground Tube and DonPaolo headed back home and I headed back to the hotel. He was such a good guy. He offered to take me all the way back to my hotel even though it was out of his way. I was confident I could make it on my own and did. I gotta mention that my goal was not to take any taxi’s this trip. I’m a lazy bastard and always just take taxi’s wherever I go. Like I mentioned, I’ve never taken any metro system in my life up until this trip. I was damn proud of myself. It wasn’t even for the money. I wanted to get a feel for London. I was really impressed with their metro system. It was cheap, dependable and could take you anywhere. It did get really crowded on Saturday but it was ok.

I arrived back at my hotel and showered in anticipation for Caprice. When she arrived I was floored. She really lives up to all the hype. She was really pretty and gave me the greatest deep kiss right when I answered the door. She had a little bag full of all this lingerie. She asked me what I liked and essentially told me anything was possible. Yep, you heard that right. I could do ANYTHING. I’m not into anal but if you are she is probably your girl. She talked about the pornos she has been in. After she said “anything”, I inquired about CIM, swallow, etc. She said sure. Wow. Probably the single best session of my life. She lives up to her reputation and any hobbyist that gets to London should see her at least once. Yeah, the price is steep but a lot of the girls in London were charging 300 pounds per hour and I can’t see them being any better than her. Her pornos can be purchased at the the following link: http://www.bgafd.co.uk/girls/v/v0002.shtml She used to go by the name of Jessica Freeman or maybe that’s her real name.

I know this post is long winded as are all my other posts. I’ve mentioned before that writing these reports has a two fold purpose. One is to provide valuable information and the other is to serve as a personal journal. What else am I going to do? I already watched 3 DVD’s and I don’t want to sleep because it’s a day flight and I want to sleep tonight. I’m on the plane typing this as we speak. I never realized what a long ass haul these flights are without Ambien. Shit. The thing that sucks about London is the time change of 6 hours. South America is so easy because it’s only 3 hours time difference for me.

Final impressions:

London is a gorgeous city. I really wish I had more time to spend there. To give you a good idea how great of a guy DP was – before leaving me the previous day he made me promise to call him the next day. I told him that it was sad I came all the way to London and didn’t do any sightseeing. (Kind of like being in Brazil 13 days and not even going to Sugar Loaf or any of the other sites). I was determined to go on a whirlwind tour the following morning. My flight left at 2 PM so I had to get up early. I told him he didn’t have to get up early because he was going out the night before.

I called the next morning really early. The first time predictably there was no answer at around 7 AM. I showered and was getting ready to head out. I decide to try DP one more time and he answers! I tell him thanks for everything and that he didn’t need to get up and meet me. He insisted and told me he would meet me at 8:30 AM. Wow…what a guy! We hit all the major tourist attractions: Buckingham Palace, Big Ben, Houses of Parliament, Thames River, Trafalgar Square, etc. I gotta tell you that London is one of the most beautiful and historic cities in the world. What the city lacks in beautiful women it makes up for with a charming atmosphere and beautiful architecture. The buildings were spectacular.

It was pretty funny because as we were walking around the city with it’s shortage of pretty girls… every time we saw a cutie she would be speaking in some other language and DP and I would turn at the same time and say, “Russian, Italian or Spanish”. Ha, ha. I’ll definitely be back to London. Probably several times.

Going back to Victoria Station to catch the Gatwick Express back to the airport it was amazing to see all these flyers posted for these cheap airfares all over Europe. You can go from London to Spain for Pounds27 on some budget airline. I think I’ll come back here towards the end of the year for a few weeks and just rent an apartment and fly all over Europe using London as my base of operations.

Just a wonderful long weekend. I couldn’t have had a better trip. A special thanks to DonPaolo that made it possible. He is not only London’s best tour guide but a really good guy.

Have fun gentlemen. I'm off to Rio next week! I can't wait.


Higher end girls website links:


http://www.alluring-escorts.net/gallery.htm

http://www.agencycaprice.com/portfolios.htm

http://www.pasha.co.uk

http://www.uk-glamourgirls.com

http://www.agency-provocateur.com

http://www.caprice-medias.co.uk/caprice/index2.htm

[OwnaFord1994]

If you are travelling in style like Saint, Blore house wouldn't interest you. I told you so. Here are a few corrections.

You can fly from the West coast to London at $300 round trip now! Hotel is about half of the normal price. But use the internet and prebook. The rack rate for tourist is much more at the hotel door. It pays to try the cheaper hotels in London. Compared to the rest of world, it's clean, safe, and have character.

The price for everything is much higher in London and Europe in general, compared to UK. The sale tax is more than double at around 15% all over Europe. The only cheap thing are girls and public transport. It works and it's safe. You will get there faster using public transport. Most staffs and Londoners are very helpful.

I have to defend the British girls. Most of the girls in central London streets are tourist, so their appearance doesn't count. I live in south California beach cities so I can compare that. British girls are mostly natural - no teeth whitening, no diet, no workout, no hair dying, no breast enhancement, no taning. They also cover themselves well most of the months. Compared to Europe, they are also the worst dressed. However, being organic lover, milk, orange juice, coffee, vegetable, and all others that I can find, I'll take a British girl any time. To find good looking girls, try Bond street in central London, the large stores in Knightbridges have some but more tourist. The high streets in towns south of London. These are equivalent to the malls in the Valley, South Coast Pasta (a bit more local tourist), and the Shops. See some school girls when they come out of school in the afternoon will give you some ideas of the girls a few years older. They get my vote of best in the world, if only because of their skirt, and they wear that everywhere.

Also, go to somewhere normal. Like inside a good company. The working girls are always much better looking compared to US west coast. Dentish, doctors, and hospitals, they have nurses that are much better looking, and sexy uniform too.

Personally I wouldn't try porn star experience in London. If I am not in my peak performance, there's no second take! I prefer those GFE, who looks normal like a girl friend, and kiss like a girl friend. British girls are quite healthy. London has a lot more transient population. But south of London, the local doctors are very responsible for the health of the population in their area. If there's an outbreak of something, they sort of lose money, or work a lot for nothing. So if a young girl in the sexually age has anything suspecious on any part of their body, the doctors are very keen to have a close up look. Everybody is covered free. So that's about the only place that I will kiss without reservation.

[Saint]

Ownaford makes some good points. Blore House might interest you if you're up for a quick and easy session and you're not too picky. I do stand by my assessment of the quality of girls in London. Everyone I know has the same opinion. Even DonPaolo, the local that lives there agreed with me. London girls just can't compare to other major cities. I feel sorry for those guys living there.

I do want to add that you should NEVER make any phone calls from The Copthorne Tara hotel. I only made 4 local calls each under 5 minutes each. I got my credit card statement online today and I noticed I was charged $40 US for those 4 calls. Yes, you heard that right. $10 US per local call. I emailed the hotel and they basically said...it is what it is. Highway robbery!

[OwnaFord1994]

I basically agree with the observations about London girls, but general observation is general observation. There are some good points.

They are about the worst dressed in the world. Unlike Italian girls, who spend everything on clothes and appearance, and nothing on food. But that doesn't mean that they are not good material inside. South American girls are much hotter outside. But I don't speak Spannish. London girls speak English and London is about the safest major city in the world. Police don't carry guns in general. If I speak Spannish or Italian, Argentina, Baracelona, Rome could be better places to visit.

Britain is considered to be 2.5 world, close to 3rd world, by their students in average universities. They are not as crowed as 3rd world countries but a lot more crowded than USA, Canada, and other European countries. That's why they still have a lot of soldiers and can support a reasonable sized army. Since the have mostly white girls, they export a lot of them. A lot of dancers in famous French clubs are British, since you can easier find taller ones amongst the population. A lot also went to Vegas. Not that many blondes, but with USA color technology, not a problem. We still can't make a girl taller yet. In Britain, it's rather like finding attractive girls in a crowed Asian city, pretty easy everywhere.

Another good thing about British girls is that if you take any hot foreign girls as a wife, they are usually considered as mail-order bride. But not British. But statiscally, I think British girls are doing very well without the label. I know some well paid professionals, went to live in a Bed and Breakfast house for a while and came back with the owner's daughter as his wife. There are plenty of attractive, educated girls you can meet in daily life, who want to escape from their life of boredom, and want to see the world. They also have a healthy attitude about Americans. The Italian girls hit you with everything they got when you don't look European, and so you must be American. North European girls hate their men, any other men will do. Average British girls don't fancy Americans that much. Same as that American don't fancy every American thing. Actually the British are quite feared in USA. If you fire them, they have a place to go with resonable medical cover and benefits! So that's a good starting point to get to know the British girls. But the girls who knows, reasonabled educated, embitious, who wants to see the world, will also hit you with everything they got, but not obvious, without you knowing it at first.

For the working girls, they are not as good looking as LA girls for example. In LA, the work out, the dye technology, the laser technology, plus botox, lipo technology, make miracles. So in London it pays to get the younger ones. For those 18 year old, blonde white dancers, they ask for $1000 for sex after the no-touch dance routine. But the same material in London you can have for 60 pounds for a quickie.

[OttoGraham]

Saint makes some excellent points, I am glad he's discussing something other than Soho walk-ups. This forum usually discusses little else.

IMHO the best agency in London is www.academygirls.co.uk. The rates run at about 200 pounds an hour. The owner Sean is a personal friend. If you tell him Otto sent you, you can be sure to have a good time.

That is, if you're not a jerk. If you are, don't call. You would be AMAZED about some of the stories I hear coming from the business-end of the "biz." Some punters/mongerers are just dopes.

Anyway, good post Saint!

-Uncle Otto

[Merlin Magician]

Otto is right. Sean at Academy Girls is a good dude and great to deal with. I have tried his girls over the last couple of years and I was very pleased with quality and service. Also Academy has been operating continuously for the last 5 yrs or so and from that, you know they have some good substance to them.

Also, we do talk about Soho girls a lot because they are there where they are and no where else in the world has such a similar set up except maybe Sydney, NSW, AUS.

[OwnaFord1994]

If you like Eastern European girls, Czech girls is $700 for 12 hr and a little bit more for the whole day. Czech girls also will tell you that Slovak girls are more beautiful (and cheaper). That's already the tourist rate. Worth another leg from London to get there.

For each soho walk-up, there are thousands and thousands else where, Mayfair, Theatre district, indeed anywhere, most at better locations and many (by the law of statistics) better quality. Therefore you get so many cards in ALL the London phone boxes. The standard is about 60 GBP for one pop. By the universal rule of thumb, if you double that to 120 GBP for a British girl, you will get a memoriable experience, better than those $300 in LA. And I did.

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by merlin magician
Also, we do talk about Soho girls a lot because they are there where they are and no where else in the world has such a similar set up except maybe Sydney, NSW, AUS. [/i]??? There's nothing unique about Soho girls. Blore house is a little bit different because in UK brothels are not legal but independent flats are tolerated. Blore is at an undesirable location, and the building is small, old and undesirable too. So all the flats, say 4 storeys with 3 flats each, are all taken up by working girls. That became some sort of brothel by default. However they won't break the one girl one flat rule.

In any major traffic route, and in most historial buildings, the flats are bad to live in. They are also taken up by working girls. Basically you can find girls in any flat, sometimes clustered in some locations, all over London, spreading out to all the major routes into London, say A3.

Hong Kong inherited the same rules. You can find girls in almost any area with affordable flats. You can find high concentration in some old buildings, if they haven't turn into brothels yet. (Though HK has all sorts of other things.) Similiar in Japan, you find cards in the streets and walk up the flats.

[Lancemurdoch]

I wondered if anybody had ever visited any hostess clubs in London? If so, is there any on line guide or listing? Any reccomendations. For avoidance of doubt, I don't mean those fleecing places in Soho which keep getting closed down.

Thanks

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by Lancemurdoch
I wondered if anybody had ever visited any hostess clubs in London?
Thanks

As far as I know, there are no hostess clubs in UK, asia style or LA style. Yes, the soho clubs, if they still exist, are totally for ripping off tourist. Though they copy across the altantic high class strip clubs where absolutely no touching are allowed, and they even have private no-touch dancers advertise in the classified in some towns.

[Lancemurdoch]

Originally posted by ownaford1994
As far as I know, there are no hostess clubs in UK, asia style or LA style. Thanks Ownaford 1994.

I am actually aware of two, pretty upscale hostess places in central London and one not so classy. I just have no experience of them. Reason for asking is that some clients like this sort of thing and I need to know the range.

[OwnaFord1994]

Lance, I'll be interested too. I know many clients like these places. We once knowlingly went into a soho rip-off bar, because the bar paid someone on the street to woo people in for 10 GBP, including drink and a free show. A few 'hostess' came by in underwear, not bad at all, including those standing outside the bar as live advertisement. Of course we ask the price first and we didn't order any hostess. We did a sit in on one drink, until a girl did a live strip show for a group of Germany business men. They got rip-off big time and they wanted to bargain down the charge that would appear on the company card.

The price range would be interesting too. In the LA asian clubs, which is cheaper compared to asian clubs in the rest of the world, they charge $20 per hour plus tips. But to take them out, you got to give $300 for the club and the same for the girl. While if you open the newspaper, you can get full service for $120 to $150. I think the same situation applies in London where the hostess clubs will be squeezed by all sizes. Even worse, if you use your own flat for work in London, you get full legal protection.

[k__rat]

I'm staying in Londo this week and thought I'd try out some of the advice on this board. 2 nights ago I went to the shepherd's market area around 8pm but didn't see anything (maybe I was looking the wrong places - I had missed that the little signs can be found in the doorways of the flats). I also went to the top of the hilton and found a bar called the "Window Bar" (not pink pussycat). Was I in the right place? Two questions:

1) Is the walkup scene a daytime thing? Or are they generally available at night as well? How late? I have meetings until late every night so it will be 10 or 11 before I can venture out...

2) Is there action around Paddington station? I've heard paddington described as a "red light district" but haven't seen any real evidence of that yet. Any bars in that area good for picking up women (either provider or otherwise?)

[OwnaFord1994]

Shepherd is like Blore house, if you follow the threads, it's not recommended as there are thousands of walkups like that, sure in Paddington, as in any part of easily accessible center or greater London.

It can get very quiet after dark, so shy people usually walk up when there are still plenty of pedestrians around. My experience is that it's too obvious to walk up when it's quiet. The undesirable historical buildings are always right beside the main roads. The doors are huge and the entrance are elevated high above ground level.

Every pub in London is for pickup - local girls. Just give the guys a round of drinks and then hit their girls. There are often a resident ***** of the pub, she will service the guys who don't get laid. Her flat will be nearby.

[TravelingDave]

Originally posted by OttoGraham
IMHO the best agency in London is www.academygirls.co.uk. The rates run at about 200 pounds an hour. The owner Sean is a personal friend. If you tell him Otto sent you, you can be sure to have a good time.

-Uncle Otto [/i]Otto,
Many thanks for the great recomedation of Academy and Sean. Spoke with him and he was very helpful and sure set me up well.

A dependable service. Send him my best regards as well when you talk to him next

Regards.

[Bonvivant]

Gents,
Thanks for all of your great posts.
This board has served me well, and I hope my few posts last month were usefull to a few.
I have been travelling a lot to London lately for business (always try to mix in a bit of hobby), but unfortunately the last few trips I am stuck sleeping out at one of the crappy Heathrow hotels.
Any news on any action of any type in the Heathrow area would be much appreciated and reciprocated with field reports as they occur. It seems quite 'dry' in Hotel Row at Heathrow, help please!

In debt to all of you,
bonvivant

[Thor]

Bonvivant-I've stayed at the Heathrow Hilton numerous times. It's lady friendly, and no problem with the escort services coming to your room, and there are a lot of them! There may be "massage" parlors nearby as well, but I'm not familiar with them near Heathrow, only in the city. thor

[Lancemurdoch]

What is all this about the 'Pussycat' above the Hilton (e.g. K_rat's post). This can't be any Hilton in London at any rate. Any info anybody please?

[Boozer]

Otto:

I want to add my thanks regarding your recommendation of Sean and his academygirls service. He is extremely easy to deal with, the information on the site is accurate (pictures and vital statistics), and they work hard to please their customers.

Bonvivant, Sean does service the Heathrow area, check the website (www.academygirls.co.uk) and give him a call if you like what you see. Enjoy your trip.

[OwnaFord1994]

I did some research in the classified and the price is still GBP 150 in London and 120 outside London for a young pretty girl, although don't look as perfect as those 200 to 300, if their pictures are real. I always like those part-time outside London - no-rush, want you to come back, and wanted to start a long term (escort) relationship with you.

The Academy girls looked good, and the East European price is good at 100 off their British/European counterparts.

What I have in mind is more like this:
http://www.abcgirls.co.uk/daniella.htm
http://www.abcgirls.co.uk/olivia.html
All the girls claim to be part-time and works only in the evenings. Most girls are 200, as shown on captain69, that's resonable. I'm sure you like other occupations but I like pretty nurses and I know how to verify that. You can imagine that outside of London, an off-duty young British nurse can be had for some 120.

I'm surprised to find that the pretty asian girls are at 140
http://www.aaa-gal.com/main.html
That would be more than USA 500 in LA!

[TravelingDave]

Ownaford,

Ever deal with ABC? Are they relieable as well?

rgds

[OwnaFord1994]

Originally posted by TravelingDave
Ownaford,

Ever deal with ABC? Are they relieable as well?

rgds
Never tried. I was hoping that someone, say captain69 members, would tell me. Otherwise I'll stick to illusive smaller agencies in the classified where I stay.

[JackDaniels]

Originally posted by ownaford1994
I did some research in the classified and the price is still GBP 150 in London and 120 outside London for a young pretty girl, although don't look as perfect as those 200 to 300, if their pictures are real. I always like those part-time outside London - no-rush, want you to come back, and wanted to start a long term (escort) relationship with you.

The Academy girls looked good, and the East European price is good at 100 off their British/European counterparts.

What I have in mind is more like this:
http://www.abcgirls.co.uk/daniella.htm
http://www.abcgirls.co.uk/olivia.html
All the girls claim to be part-time and works only in the evenings. Most girls are 200, as shown on captain69, that's resonable. I'm sure you like other occupations but I like pretty nurses and I know how to verify that. You can imagine that outside of London, an off-duty young British nurse can be had for some 120.

I'm surprised to find that the pretty asian girls are at 140
http://www.aaa-gal.com/main.html
That would be more than USA 500 in LA!

has anyone tried these sites and can recommend ?

Cheers.

[Paris_20001]

Hi,

Has anyone already tried :

http://www.orientalangels-london.com/home.htm

And more especially

http://www.orientalangels-london.com/girls/rose.htm

It's just that I have a bad feeling... I'd liek to test them next Monday.

By the way I did test Amy from Academy Girls and she's GREAT ! Like a GF

http://www.academy-girls.co.uk/amy/amy.html

[OwnaFord1994]

Rose: If her picture is not taken in different backgrounds typical of the agencies, I would have thought that her pictures are those of a porn star. Please report. UK must be a bit backward. She has the body of a model and commands porn star prices in other places.

[Lars Berg]

Hi!

I"met" a cute girl in Old Montague street /Davenant street (this is a part of the red light area in east London).

I tried it just for fun, she took 20 pounds for fuck and BJ, 40 pounds for fuck anb BJ without condom!

There are some really ugly girls here as well.

Lars

[JackDaniels]

Paris

Yes, Amy does look good - at least what you can see of her. Is she stunning ?

I thought of trying out Liza or Natalie ? Liza looks amazing. Anyone had the pleasure of either of these two ?

...and yes, Rose is a hottie.

Cheers.

[Paris_20001]

Originally posted by jackdaniels
Paris

Yes, Amy does look good - at least what you can see of her. Is she stunning ?

I thought of trying out Liza or Natalie ? Liza looks amazing. Anyone had the pleasure of either of these two ?

...and yes, Rose is a hottie.

Cheers.

Amy was great !!! I'll meet her again this time.

I'm going to try to see Rose on Monday ....

[JackDaniels]

Originally posted by paris_20001
Amy was great !!! I'll meet her again this time.

I'm going to try to see Rose on Monday ....

Have fun ! Keep us posted....

[ChuckPinoy]

Originally posted by paris_20001
Hi,

Has anyone already tried:

http://www.orientalangels-london.com/home.htm

And more especially

http://www.orientalangels-london.com/girls/rose.htm

It's just that I have a bad feeling... I'd liek to test them next Monday.

By the way I did test Amy from Academy Girls and she's GREAT ! Like a GF

http://www.academy-girls.co.uk/amy/amy.html



I did try it last Tuesday and was very satisfied. Called at 10 pm and asked for a Japanese girl from the web. Said she was not available until Thursday. Eventually was told 1 girl immediately available. Morgan, new from Korea.

No English, but great experience. Near Hyde Park. Two orgasms for each of us, great BBBJ and young and tight. All around a great experience and a good value when you compare 70 or 80GBP for a girl in Mayfair walk-up for 30 minutes.

Seems like this agency has a steady flow of orientals as Morgan had just arrived from Seoul before starting in this most honorable and rewarding profession.

I would be happy to feel Morgan's lips and tongue at work on my body parts at any time!

[JackDaniels]

Originally posted by ChuckPinoy
I did try it last Tuesday and was very satisfied. Called at 10 pm and asked for a Japanese girl from the web. Said she was not available until Thursday. Eventually was told 1 girl immediately available. Morgan, new from Korea.

No English, but great experience. Near Hyde Park. Two orgasms for each of us, great BBBJ and young and tight. All around a great experience and a good value when you compare 70 or 80GBP for a girl in Mayfair walk-up for 30 minutes.

Seems like this agency has a steady flow of orientals as Morgan had just arrived from Seoul before starting in this most honorable and rewarding profession.

I would be happy to feel Morgan's lips and tongue at work on my body parts at any time!

do you mean Morgan from http://www.aaa-gal.com/main.html, as opposed to http://www.orientalangels-london.com ?

[William Hauger]

London has at least 5 red light areas (possibly more) the first red light area is near Finsbury Park, there are normally 8 - 12 girls out most evenings and especially weekends, here is where to look;

Seven sisters road
Albert road
Canbler street
Manchester road
Heysham road
Berkelly road
Vartry road
Amhurst park
Stamford hill
St Anns road
Eastbourne road
Westerfield road
Suffield road

The second red light area in London is near Bethnal Green, normally you will find 8 - 10 girls out any evening from 8pm till gone 2am, here is where to look;

Davenant street
Commercial Street
Quaker street
Wheler street
Fashion street
Coll street
Old montague street
Brick lane
Casson street

The third red light area is Kings Cross, this is now only a shadow of its former self, only 3 - 4 girls to be found out at any one time, here is where to look;

Goods way
Pancras road
Cheney street
York way
Wharfdale road
Caledonian street
Balfe street
St Chads street
Euston road

The fourth red light area is near Paddington, normally a few girls out after dark, but the vice squad seems to have removed most of them. Some may be found in
Sussex gardens
Sussex place
Cleveland gardens
Queensway
Invernes terrace

5th area is Streatham hill area in the south of London

These are the only 5 red light areas in London that I know, can anyone give detailed information where the other red light areas are? (i.e. exact streets and number of girls)

Best regards
William

[Paris_20001]

To : jackdaniels

I met Rose, it was good, but I didn't have time to meet Amy :-(.

[JackDaniels]

Originally posted by paris_20001
To : jackdaniels

I met Rose, it was good, but I didn't have time to meet Amy :-(.

paris_20001

Did you dine in or take out ? If you dined in, what were the facilities like, clean etc ?

and ChuckPinoy, same questions about Amy ?

Cheers.

[Paris_20001]

they came at my hotel

[Merlin Magician]

Mr. Haugher, I regularly stay at a hotel on Sussex Gardens, and I am out and about at all hours. I rarely see any W/G's in this area. Now up on Praed and the other streets you mention, well....

[Cavechu]

Hi Guys

Are there any good and reliable vietnamese, malaysian or korean girls incalls/outcalls to try for a hobbyist? Thanks in advance?

[William Hauger]

Originally posted by merlin magician
Mr. Haugher, I regularly stay at a hotel on Sussex Gardens, and I am out and about at all hours. I rarely see any W/G's in this area. Now up on Praed and the other streets you mention, well.... The area I mentioned around Paddington/Bayswater is more or less gone, but who cares, most of the girls were addicts and rather ugly. You usually see a few there late at night.

William

[Amazon Indian]

Hi everyone,

Are there any good indian / Pakistani girls anyone can recommend for both incalls / outcalls in Soho and London area?

Many thanks

Amazon Indian

[William Hauger]

Originally posted by Amazon Indian
Hi everyone,

Are there any good indian / Pakistani girls anyone can recommend for both incalls / outcalls in Soho and London area?

Many thanks

Amazon Indian Hello

Go to www.*********.com there you will find rewiews of the working girls in UK.

William

[OttoGraham]

I was in London this last weekend, as is my habit I availed myself of the services of the agency www.academygirls.co.uk

The agency is run by Sean, though also sometimes Carole will answer the phone. Tell them OttoGraham sent you and you can be doubly certain you will be treated well. No, I am not related to the company nor do I get any kickback. I am a very happy customer, however.

-Uncle Otto

[TravelingDave]

Originally posted by OttoGraham
I was in London this last weekend, as is my habit I availed myself of the services of the agency www.academygirls.co.uk

The agency is run by Sean, though also sometimes Carole will answer the phone. Tell them OttoGraham sent you and you can be doubly certain you will be treated well. No, I am not related to the company nor do I get any kickback. I am a very happy customer, however.

-Uncle Otto I can concure on Otto's statement. Based on his ealeir rec, I Have dealt with them twice and both very good experiences. Sean is easy to work with and reliable. and the agency has a good business in makjing sure their cusotmer are happy and return. Also they have very good overnight rates. BTW ask for Amy, a very sweet girl indeed.

[Bono]

Originally posted by William HaugerAlthgouh I am from the States I visit England quite a bit and am quite often around the Stretham Hill area. Can you tell me where in Stretham Hill I should look for (like near the Burger King or KFC)and so forth. Secondly I would appreciate any one's advice on girls near the Airport. Me and some buddies are staying at tHE St gILES HOTEL IN heathrowand would like to find some information on areas near Heatrhow.I am very much familiary with Central London though
London has at least 5 red light areas (possibly more) the first red light area is near Finsbury Park, there are normally 8 - 12 girls out most evenings and especially weekends, here is where to look;

Seven sisters road
Albert road
Canbler street
Manchester road
Heysham road
Berkelly road
Vartry road
Amhurst park
Stamford hill
St Anns road
Eastbourne road
Westerfield road
Suffield road

The second red light area in London is near Bethnal Green, normally you will find 8 - 10 girls out any evening from 8pm till gone 2am, here is where to look;

Davenant street
Commercial Street
Quaker street
Wheler street
Fashion street
Coll street
Old montague street
Brick lane
Casson street

The third red light area is Kings Cross, this is now only a shadow of its former self, only 3 - 4 girls to be found out at any one time, here is where to look;

Goods way
Pancras road
Cheney street
York way
Wharfdale road
Caledonian street
Balfe street
St Chads street
Euston road

The fourth red light area is near Paddington, normally a few girls out after dark, but the vice squad seems to have removed most of them. Some may be found in
Sussex gardens
Sussex place
Cleveland gardens
Queensway
Invernes terrace

5th area is Streatham hill area in the south of London

These are the only 5 red light areas in London that I know, can anyone give detailed information where the other red light areas are? (i.e. exact streets and number of girls)

Best regards
William

[OwnaFord1994]

Streatham? Is it the famous place outside of central London on TV many years ago? It's near the pub at the central, downtown area. There was some nightclub there possibly and you see long queues. Very busy place. When the pub closes at 11pm, the girls started lining up in the parking area next to it. At the best of times, you can see girls separted by several feet, in two rows also separated by several feet. At least 20 plus. And there were some black/asian girls on duty along the road into the busy area.

[Maxtar]

Does any one know the number of the flat in Streatham? Kinda opposite the KFC?

This report was edited by Jackson for capitalization and punctuation.

[BrendanGooch]

I have seen korean/vietnamese girls haunting the lounge at the Hilton Hotel, Park Lane. If you visit the Zeta bar on fridays you can spot them. There are usually groups of 2 or 3 who hang around the bar looking for punters.

Originally posted by AMPGuest
Hi Guys

Are there any good and reliable vietnamese, malaysian or korean girls incalls/outcalls to try for a hobbyist? Thanks in advance?

[BrendanGooch]

This is going back a few years ago, however I have seen some very attractive looking indian working girls haunting Brick Lane around 7-8 pm in the evenings.

Originally posted by William Hauger
Hello

Go to www.*********.com there you will find rewiews of the working girls in UK.

William

[Merlin Magician]

Be very extra careful in area of Casson, Brick Lane, and White Chapel/Bethnal Green these days. This old ghetto area is now populated by large numbers of Pakistani and Afghan expats. Soliciting W/G's here could be risky due to the heavy Muslim influence.

[William Hauger]

Hello,

You walk from Streatham hill station along Streatham Hill Street to Brixton Hill. There also girls in Bedford Hill street.

Best regards

William

[Bono]

Originally posted by Maxtar
Does any one know the number of the flat in Streatham? Kinda opposite the KFC?

This report was edited by Jackson for capitalization and punctuation.
I THink the flat is called the High Its over a betting shop of some kind .Its either 171 or 181 Can not remember

[TravelingDave]

Originally posted by BrendanGooch
I have seen korean/vietnamese girls haunting the lounge at the Hilton Hotel, Park Lane. If you visit the Zeta bar on fridays you can spot them. There are usually groups of 2 or 3 who hang around the bar looking for punters. Pasts report state the Hiltaon Park lane Zeta bar has alot of action. So as I was staying at the Hilton a few weeks back and went up to the Zeta Bar. Sadly to say there was no selection of anything to be found. Either I came (no pun intended) on the wrong night/time or everyone was busy.

EDITOR's NOTE: I took a few minutes to revise the capitalization and punctuation mistakes in this report. However, with everything else I have to do to maintain the forum, I don't really want to spend my time doing this every day, so I would very much appreciate it if everyone could refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. I don't expect everyone to be a great writer, but it's not difficult to use the CAPS key for names or to put a period at the end of sentences. Thanks!

[BrendanGooch]

Dave,

Did u check out both bars on a friday evening ?

I have seen hookers there on 2 occasions.

The hilton has two main bars. One below ground and the other 4 floors up (as far I can remember).

Maybe the girls were already busy, or taken.

[BrendanGooch]

Merlin,

I concurr with what you say about Brick Lane.

The other night I went out for a meal with a colleague.

I could not help noticing a pimp beating one of the hookers in one of the side streets. Sad but true. Just beaware of whats going on out there.

I dont think the police really give a toss what goes on and turn a blind eye to what goes on is these dark alleys.

Originally posted by merlin magician
Be very extra careful in area of Casson, Brick Lane, and White Chapel/Bethnal Green these days. This old ghetto area is now populated by large numbers of Pakistani and Afghan expats. Soliciting W/G's here could be risky due to the heavy Muslim influence.

[William Hauger]

Originally posted by merlin magician
Be very extra careful in area of Casson, Brick Lane, and White Chapel/Bethnal Green these days. This old ghetto area is now populated by large numbers of Pakistani and Afghan expats. Soliciting W/G's here could be risky due to the heavy Muslim influence. I have not heard of any problems here, it is supposed to be safe but there are some vice squads in the area.Kerb crawling is illegal.

Use common sense and you are rather safe.

William

[Bono]

Originally posted by BrendanGooch
Merlin,

I concurr with what you say about Brick Lane.

The other night I went out for a meal with a colleague.

I could not help noticing a pimp beating one of the hookers in one of the side streets. Sad but true. Just beaware of whats going on out there.

I dont think the police really give a toss what goes on and turn a blind eye to what goes on is these dark alleys.
I have seen similar things like the one described by Brendan Gooch .It is this fraction of stupid Pakistanis beating up on their woman.Guys, remember there are girls out there working and they are all of all dimensions (Muslim, Hindus and so on).However the Pakistan to maintain their macho image will beat up on the woman to make them feel like a man.I think we should boycott the girls who are getting beaten up to send a message. There are other girsl in Bricklane as well ,I am a visitor from the Us so I remembe it was next to a Sikh temple where I saw tons of girl working around 6, maybe. So go out looking .For most parts, the pimps are not very confrontational but helping.

[Merlin Magician]

One will have to remember a bit of history about the area of White Chapel, Brick Lane, Caisson, Bethnal Green. These are the very same streets on which the victims of Jack the Ripper plied their stock in trade.

That old ghetto which is now all Persian and Arab Muslim, has also been Italian, German, Russian, African, and Jamaican in history.

I know the Ten Bells Pub just by the site of his last known murder should be a great pick up spot wor W/G's.

I see lots of girls working the street in front of the Ten Bells on toward the Aldgate Underground Station.

Nothing has really changed since the 1880's. The girls are just as hard bitten and nasty now as then.

[BrendanGooch]

I remember my uncle saying when he was living in Brick Lane back in the 70's. There use to be a murder there every night.

The message Merlin, myself and Bono want to get across is check out these areas by all means. Just keep your wits about your and use your common sense.

Apart from the grim side of things, Brick Lane does have some trendy indian/pakistani restaurants and during the day its a nice place to shop around for trendy gear.



Originally posted by merlin magician
One will have to remember a bit of history about the area of White Chapel, Brick Lane, Caisson, Bethnal Green. These are the very same streets on which the victims of Jack the Ripper plied their stock in trade.

That old ghetto which is now all Persian and Arab Muslim, has also been Italian, German, Russian, African, and Jamaican in history.

I know the Ten Bells Pub just by the site of his last known murder should be a great pick up spot wor W/G's.

I see lots of girls working the street in front of the Ten Bells on toward the Aldgate Underground Station.

Nothing has really changed since the 1880's. The girls are just as hard bitten and nasty now as then.

[Aviator]

This post may be a little out of the ordinary, but I thought it was valuable information...

There is a great Blues music bar called "A'int Nuthin but the Blues" located on 20 Kinbly St. in Soho. Went there the other night just to enjoy some live music. I live in the South Eastern part of the U.S. where we have some really good Jazz, so my expectations were moderate. As it turned out, I had a really good time. Music was great, and the place was packed.

So... what does this have to do with anything remotely of interest to WSG readers? The place was full of very nice ladies indeed. Ended up going back to the hotel with not one but two fine local ladies for a great time. No, these were not working girls, just ladies out for FUN.

Interestingly, one of the gentlemen in the line outside told me that the place was always crawling with interesting ladies looking for someone to hook up with. I was told that again inside, and given my experience, I have to say it is true.

My humble appologies if this post is off target, but I thought you might like to throw in a fun night of music along with other activities.

Of course, if you strike out at the club, you can easliy walk to Les Girls for some guaranteed satisfaction (more on that in another post).

[Boofer]

London has some of the best escorts in the world, but can be pretty pricey. Not the best place for action. Still prefer Prague, and Moscow

[William Hauger]

Originally posted by boofer
London has some of the best escorts in the world, but can be pretty pricey. Not the best place for action. Still prefer Prague, and Moscow Try out http://www.vivasmassage.co.uk 60 pounds for 30 minutes, avoid Fransesca(cold *****),beautiful girls here.

Spain(Madrid and Barcelona) surely beats the eastern part of europe, it is warmer and cheaper.
If you want it cheap you can get a fuck without a condom for 30-40 pounds in the Whitechapel area, not recommended.

William

[OwnaFord1994]

William, the viva massage looked interesting. Have they relaxed the rules about brothels now? They openly offer 69.

BTW, what is OWO ?

[William Hauger]

Originally posted by ownaford1994
William, the viva massage looked interesting. Have they relaxed the rules about brothels now? They openly offer 69.

BTW, what is OWO ?
Brothels are supposed to be illegal but the police do not care as long there are a few or no complaints from the public.

I think owo is slang for oral sex with orgasm.

William

[TravelingDave]

BTW, what is OWO?

oral without

[TravelingDave]

Aviator,

Thank you for the post. A good piece of info, I will check it out on my next visit. What can I say, am a jazz fan as well!

BTW, if anyone has any info on similar, I would be happy to hear.

TD

[Cheeky Chic]

Originally posted by TravelingDave
BTW, what is OWO?

oral without OWO is oral sex without a condom otherwise known as bareback
(bbbj = bare back blow job)
Hope that helps :)

Tara xx

[Boofer]

There are loads of doors that have the word MODEL on them in Soho and can be a hit or miss. Met this HOT Russian chick in one of these places and she was really good at what she does. It is a hit or miss and some of the women are ugly, but if you keep on looking you will find gems.

[AV Champ]

Greeting board members,

I am new to this board, so bear with me! It is my first time traveling to London and U.K for that matter. can you guys suggest or recommend:

1) Nice hotel (Reasonable rates) preferably centrally located, or not too far from the center of the town?

2) Nice bars or nightclubs or places to hang out at night

3) And finally most important of all, place to get some decent action, in and around London where you don’t spend a fortune or get mugged or rubbed in the process.

Many thanks,

Alex