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boring ..................
back to the black ass competition !
Remember - winner takes all!
Member #3400
07-11-07, 08:33
Tonight i have a flight to Ukraine and then to Kenya.
Soon you will see the local version of Sharon stone's perfect butt.
see you guys
Mr M
Carl Schmitt
07-11-07, 09:43
boring .................. It is rather puerile to want to hide the eyes when there is a problem and to criticize the people who try to regulate this problem. You must sometimes be bored to guarantee your pleasure and your entertainment. IMHO :)
Back to the black ass competition!
Remember - winner takes all!
The ass might be Ok, but the difference between hips and waist is marginal.
It's not Africa but Budapest and the woman is from Germany
boring ..................
back to the black ass competition !
Remember - winner takes all!
Member #3413
07-11-07, 18:04
The ass might be Ok, but the difference between hips and waist is marginal.
It's not Africa but Budapest and the woman is from GermanyBlack ass competition, why not?
A lovely ass and a nice **** is the door from heaven. Sorry I have forgoten the soul.
TT
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/07/11/kenya.crime.reut/index.html?eref=rss_world
Can the guys on the ground confirm the news?. Quite worrying.
B. Regards
LB
LustyHombre
07-11-07, 20:19
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/07/11/kenya.crime.reut/index.html?eref=rss_world
Can the guys on the ground confirm the news?. Quite worrying.
B. Regards,
LBCoincides with what you read in the local press . Seems Nairobi proper and MSA are not affected at all , actually security in both cities seems better than it was when I visited last year .
Mate,
Although events are of concern, election time is nearing - hence the violence - this is true to tradition in Africa if not sectors of our world.
If you are travelling to Kenya soon do not worry yourself too much as you are a tourist and not politically connected. Your main concern is towards your own safety, in other words: Be aware of your surroundings, do not make yourself a criminal target.
The criminals do not indiscriminately attack you for no reason, they watch and chose their victim beforehand particularly if they suspect you are carrying large amounts of money or displaying your jewelry.
Carl Schmitt
07-12-07, 09:40
I'm not yet on the ground (what is a very pity for my balls) but I have these elements of information: A clear map of the zones where the risk of ethnic conflicts (competition for the land and may be the black ass) is high:
http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs_909/pays_12191/kenya_12271/index.html
(This map doesn't include the isg forum).
The situation for the Mungiki political violence is more complex. Last killings of Mungiki members occured in Kangema (center region of the Kenya)and Mathare district in Nairobi. The "trigger happy" behavior and the violence of the police against innocents caused the escape of hundreds of people of this district.
In Mombasa the police shot recently at gangsters (non-Mungiki).
It is thus necessary to get informations about the places to avoid. Places as Mtwapa/Mombasa seem to me completely saved by the phenomenon :)
GoodEnough
07-12-07, 10:15
I'm becoming an avid reader of this board in anticipation of my September trip to Kenya and you guys have me drooling over the photos. I'm sitting here in one of the pussy capitols of the world in the Philippines, and I still cannot get the images out of my head.
Well done! Keep the photos coming.
GE
I found this report on the BBC website:
(full article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6291100.stm )
Prostitutes are known for their skimpy attire, but Kenya's coastal port of Mombasa is witnessing a controversial fashion makeover.
The twilight ladies, as the city's residents refer to the sex workers, have traded their revealing outfits for the more austere buibui - a loose, floor-length gown and head covering favoured by Muslim women.
Walking along the city's main red-light streets at night, one comes across many of the buibui-clad prostitutes.
Although most shy away from speaking to the press, a few are willing to talk.
"I'm better off wearing the buibui so I look respectable. I can avoid arrest. I am just trying to get some money to live on," one says.
Another claims she wears her buibui to hide her identity.
"I know I am sinning, but I'm forced to because I am looking for my livelihood. So to me, it's acceptable," she says.
Most of her customers are local men, not tourists. She says wearing a buibui helped them to more easily pick out women from the region.
But the phenomenon is causing a stir in the predominantly Muslim city where religious women are required to cover their bodies from head to toe.
Some female residents say it is a big disgrace.
"I feel so embarrassed that sometimes I contemplate removing my buibui and throwing it away. The buibui has lost its respect," Mariam Salma says.
Another resident, Asha Hussein, claims the sex workers are not native to Mombasa.
"They are not Muslims. Most are from Somalia and Ethiopia. They wear it to avoid public humiliation," she says.
The Lucky Guy
07-12-07, 19:25
A contribution in the category "The Bigger the Merrier is Not Always True":
A contribution in the category "The Bigger the Merrier is Not Always True":
very nice ..... keep em coming...
:)
A contribution in the category "The Bigger the Merrier is Not Always True":Thanks for the nice ass shots. Ditto for more.
The Lucky Guy
07-13-07, 01:37
Very nice, keep em coming.Here is one for the category "Kicking Ass!" :D
Hi Guys!
I really like black girls and admire the posts from Efremof. Especially his "regular girl, . Slim but with beautiful but and breast" is georgeous!
But there are also gems in other parts of the world. So just a little contribution to the but contest. And some photos to show also her nice breasts.
If have had already more than 50 girls from all over Africa. Here in Germany and no prostitutes. Easy to find them walking around in big cities, especially shopping malls and train stations. The German guys are mainly to shy and the girls are bored from the behaviour of most black man, so if you are polite and funny, make them laugh and envite them for a meal. A lot goes. Unfortunately I have no photos from them all.
The first one is from Romania and the second one from Dominicanian Republik.
Enjoy
Amcon Guy
Member #3400
07-13-07, 18:34
Guys
I am in Odessa now sitting with my laptop in internet caffe and cant stop from
laughing. I hope that until i will be in kenya the Contest will still be open to contenders.
Here i am surrounding by stunning girls but i did not get anything yet. apparently Eastern Europe in not kenya as far as girls availability.
I will post photos if i will have some success.
The Lucky Guy
07-13-07, 20:06
I will post photos if i will have some success.Good luck! But don't stay a day longer than necessary. They are really beautiful in European terms, they beat even Swedish girls, but hey, aren't they very pale?
Member #3400
07-15-07, 10:31
The same techniques works here too
Butt upon demand
David Smash
07-15-07, 22:00
The same techniques works here too
Butt upon demandPardon my ignorance but are white girls like her common in Kenya. If so where and how do you find them?
TravelRough
07-16-07, 13:02
A late entry is better than never. How many weekends have I said that??? This is not from Kenya, but I don't think anyone will mind. She was a nice GFE with a great body and a very pretty face.
A late entry is better than never. How many weekends have I said that??? This is not from Kenya, but I don't think anyone will mind. She was a nice GFE with a great body and a very pretty face.
Lady in red.
Benefactor
07-18-07, 08:52
Hi everyone!
Advance apologies for asking for info that probably more or less is in the forum. But. As Lonely Planet says. Things change, prices go up, places go bust. You get the idea.
I am planning to visit Kenya in mid-October, and want some advice. I will be spending a week in Nairobi and in regards to Nairobi I'the like to find out the following:
I will be staying at the Hilton. Any possibilities to discreetly get girls into their rooms? I might be in the position to have some non-pro friends from the net coming for a little visit, but want to make sure it flows smoothly.
Secondly, I will be spending a shortened week on the beach. The alternatives I am currently looking at are Diani Beach or Bamburi. My criteris are these:
1. Would like to be in a super-girlfriendly place, where multiple consecutive lady friends won't raise an eyebrow and where staff won't frown upon me for bringing a girl in for a mid-day fuck just after they changed the sheets from last nights lay. 2. Ideally I like to do my pick ups during the day. I. E. The ideal place should have daytime cafes/bars where cute black ladies hang out daydreaming about white dicks, or the beach should be full of lovelies willing to visit my room for mutual pleasure. 3. This is off topic, but some of you might know. The diving should be decent.
At the moment the most likely solution seems to be Bamburi Beach Resort or Indiana. Would Diani be a bad alternative given my preferences?
Can't wait for my first visit to Africa and my first taste of Black sex!
Please, I don't need RTFF replies, I have read it all, but want an update and some friendly advice.
Finally, kudos to Efremof and The Lucky Guy for posting photos such as:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=75195
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=73943
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=73589
With stunners like these I would seriously contemplate moving continent!
Chill well.
I read Lucky Guy's experiences with Superman pills like Cialis with great interest. It sounds like a small price to pay to make the most out of your holiday!
Does anyone know how to get the pills past customs at the airport? Mail them to yourself at the hotel? Or does the Kenyan customs not care?
Also, how does the scene in Nairobi compare to Mombasa? I'll be arriving in Nairobi, but do you guys think making the long trip to Mombasa will be worth it, girl-wise?
Thanks!
LustyHombre
07-18-07, 18:33
Returning after a 15 yrs absence, I will be spending the next 4 mos in Kenya, mostly in MSA. I am restricted to exploring daytime adventures, except for times when my SO goes shopping to Dubai (which will be at least once- maybe more often if she gets bored here).
You guys have painted a pretty detailed picture of what all goes on at night but there isn’t much guidance as to what is available during the day.
Last week, I started at the Café at Nyali Nakumatt. While trying to read the Economist (don’t understand why it’s not available anymore right on the launch date – there is no censorship in Kenya, or is there?. As it used to be in the ‘70’s already, sometimes even the day before! ) to catch up with what goes on at home, my attention was constantly diverted by a bevy of shapely girls in body-hugging outfits, either coming or going. Several others were sitting in strategic locations, either alone or with a co-worker, nursing their drinks and scanning the neighborhood for their next mealticket. Out of maybe 10 girls at 4pm, a few were an 8 in my book (pleasant face, slim body, nice booty, reasonably tastefully dressed). It was easy to figure out who were the real pros: they met your eyes straight on and motioned you, more or less discreetly, to join them.
I took an interest in a pretty girl who quickly looked away whenever our eyes met. On my way out I passed by her table and whispered "follow me" and then headed toward the side entrance pretending to be very interested in all the "for sale" and "for rent" flyers thumbtacked to the pegboard. Sure enough, she was next to me a few minutes later. I asked her to follow me to the parking lot. Like a good detective she started trailing me keeping about 50 yards back.
I unlocked my car and she slid into the passenger seat. Instead of saying something, we both broke out in spontaneous laughter which served to break the ice better than any clever words ever could.
She introduced herself as Marissa, 23 yrs old, an office worker at a Forwarding Co, new in town, originally from somewhere way north of Nanyuki.
I asked her whether she wanted to accompany me to my house for a few hours. She hesitated (maybe for better effect) and then said "let’s go". I took her to a friend’s appartment who had instructed his servant to let me in whenever I would show up. We relaxed over a few glasses of wine on the balcony overlooking the ocean (she struck me as being remarkably articulate as well as good looking) before making it to one of the guest rooms.
The fireworks began: a little bit of necking, leading to LFK and DFK while mutually disrobing. She kissed her way down my tummy and then disappointingly asked for a condom for the BJ. I expressed my surprise but she remained firm.
Nevertheless the BJ was quite good but I had no patience (after a sexless 3 weeks or so) and penetrated her soon after preparing her with digits. She was very wet but yet so tight, and I came after just a few thrusts, to my intense dismay. The post-coital talk dealt with each others sexual likes and dislikes and turned out to be very invigorating, very quickly. We were soon at it again, starting with a CBJ while I explored her with a few fingers front, and a bit later and hesitantly at first around the O as well (supposedly one of her dislikes) which she seemed to like, afterall.
Somehow, all of a sudden, I noticed the condom was gone but she continued with wild abandon and salivated all over my balls and dick, giving me fantastic DT while maintaining full eye contact thruout. I was barely able to muster enough self control to plead for a time out to prevent another premature finish.
After another sip of wine we went at it again: I entered her in the spoon position; we built up rhythm, changed to doggie after a few minutes and, just before the creaking bed seemed to collapse under us, we both exploded.
During the R&R she told me about herself and her life (humble beginnings in rural poverty, mission school, Secretarial College after High School, now full of hope for a bright future).
Lateron, I dropped her off near where she lives and gave her an envelope with some spending money (2, 500)- which she refused at first (but not very vehemently) and the promise to get together again sometimes next week.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Bold Focker
07-19-07, 11:01
I read on the internet that they have banned smoking in three cities in Kenya: Nairobi, Nakuru and Mombasa.
Is this true and is it being enforced?
Kenya could be my next mongering destination if it has!
BF
I will be staying at the Hilton. Any possibilities to discreetly get girls into their rooms? I might be in the position to have some non-pro friends from the net coming for a little visit, but want to make sure it flows smoothly.
Not a Chance :)
I stayed at the Hilton last year and wondered the same thing. Unfortunately there is only one entrance, at which are posted a few security guards who will instruct you to walk through the metal detector when you enter the building. So rested assured, when entering the Hilton with a women, especially if you’re white and she’s not, everyone will assume you’re gonna fuck her brains out.
Benefactor
07-19-07, 15:09
Not a Chance :)
I stayed at the Hilton last year and wondered the same thing. Unfortunately there is only one entrance, at which are posted a few security guards who will instruct you to walk through the metal detector when you enter the building. So rested assured, when entering the Hilton with a women, especially if you’re white and she’s not, everyone will assume you’re gonna fuck her brains out.Thanks for the info, but what a bugger of a hotel.
What are the chances of finding ladies inside the Hotel (i.e. in bar or by pool) and asking them to show up in the room? Discretion is going to be a major issue for me on this trip.
Frenchhero
07-19-07, 15:40
Regarding the Hilton, security staff wil notice your gf (that's their job), but she will not be asked her ID during the day or in the early evening. Just walk in the lobby with your friend as you were heading to their bar or restaurant, then you can take the elevator without any hassle.
Later that is impossible, security staff will ask yo to go to the reception desk in order to leaver her ID (whether she is a pro or not).
LustyHombre
07-20-07, 21:36
the classifieds in the daily nation contain several one-liners for beauty parlors in nbo and msa. i phoned a few of the msa numbers, but maybe it was too early in the day (11. 30 am) bcs only 2 of them picked up. the first one had a pretty scary voice, the 2nd one sounded quite professional and i decided to check it out:
its signboard outside the rattna center announces "massage/aromatherapy" " 9. 9 " "7 days a week"
upon entering a dingy little store front toward the back of the mall a so-so looking girl came out from behind a partition and asked me whether i wanted a massage, and if so what type of massage. the basic cost would be 1, 500 / hr and extras would have to be agreed upon with the attendant. i asked whether i would have a choice of girls whereupon she said something in swahili and, one by one, about 10 girls stepped out from a small tiny room in the back of the store (i like the basic idea of the parade a lot. but of course mp's back home execute it better. the ‘holding pen" in the back seemed to be so tiny that the whole thing reminded me a bit of "how many people can you cram into a beetle? ")
i chose jane, maybe early to mid 20's, slim but with good curves, nice facial features, with an open and friendly smile. she led me up a staircase into the mezzanine (always a pleasurable sight to be a few feet behind/underneath a nice wiggling ass) and asked me to get comfortable in the larger of the 2 simple cubicles, equipped with a sturdy looking massage table and a chair and a hook on the wall for your clothes.
nice touch: the table was totally covered with a wide paper towel, just like the examination table in my md’s office. she excused herself for a few minutes and came back with a choice of massage oils and other paraphernalia of the trade, i guess.
she squirted some oil on my back and began a very, very nice therapeutic back massage. she let me know that she is a trained masseuse, and it showed. she worked on my legs and feet and toes and even massaged my head, all very skillfully. every now and then she, kind of accidentally, touched my scrotum. after about 30 mins of this she asked me to flip. no wonder i had major wood.
she looked at me with a smile and asked me what was on my mind.
however, the cost of the options offered seemed much too steep to me (compared with what you guys say you pay night club girls for an allnighter). i told her so and she re-quoted cbj for 2, 500 and fs for 4, 000 (that’s in addition to the door fee! ), as her lowest possible price. while negotiating she (very cleverly) undressed, revealing smallish but nice looking breasts and a very shapely booty. my little head won out and i heard myself striking a deal with her for a total of 3, 000 incl the house fee, bj only.
(normally, my golden rule is: either accept the quoted price or walk away but never negotiate – bcs there are so many different ways she can short change you during the delivery phase, if she feels you pay her less than what she thinks she is worth)
the cbj wasn’t anything special (she said she had something with her tonsils which would make it unsafe to give me a bbbj – that was a new one for me. .) but she took a long time nevertheless. after a while she moved her ass closer to the top end of the table so that i could finger her, which we both seemed to enjoy. while coming up for air she tried to talk me into upgrading to fs but i declined since she wasn’t offering any price concession.
i did ok overall when compared to back home ($40 door fee for 40 mins + $120-140 for a bodyslide and hj) but i would imagine that there are better values available elsewhere in msa.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I am visiting Nairobi next week - does anyone have hotel recommendations? Any girl-UNfriendly hotels to avoid?
Member #3400
07-21-07, 14:53
A few more interesting angle.
M
The Lucky Guy
07-22-07, 07:27
However, the cost of the options offered seemed much too steep to me (compared with what you guys say you pay night club girls for an allnighter). ... re-quoted CBJ for 2, 500 and FS for 4, 000 (that’s in addition to the door fee! )In this very lovely forum (yes, I have had VERY, VERY good use of it! And like the daily chit/chat!) it is sometimes a sort of a.. what to say..competition on "how low can you go".
Skip that. If you get what you want from the perfect lady - come on - 2500 KS is CHEAP! Especially compared to whatever you can get in your home country! (Of course; ladies in establishments are always much more expensive than "free lancers"- BUT - a big advantage - they can be purchased with much less effort..! (you just had to walk a few meters before action instead of buying her a drink etc etc etc..)).
Yes, it can get cheaper but a more important thing - can it get better? For me: "better" is about the girls look (important for me), sometimes the degree of effort (ST vs LT), the degree of GFE, acceptance of my..peculiarities.. :D etc..
I think guys here, at least sometimes.. (and probably every where!!).. spend far to much energy and time on QUANTITY: the lower the price the better - regardless of the lady being totally unattractive or not, regardless or not if she behave as an asshole (sic!) or not etc.
IMHO: Don't chase the cheapest fuck, chase the best experience, but of course, read the forum (RTFF) so you can get a good value. But seriously, if you pay 1-20 dollars to much, is it really a headache worth to remember?? (not a question to you, LustyHombre, but to all of us here being Super-Focused on the price..)
The Lucky Guy
07-22-07, 07:32
Ladies can show so many more aspects!
Butt upon demandGo for it!
LustyHombre
07-22-07, 20:35
Yes, it can get cheaper but a more important thing - can it get better? For me: "better" is about the girls look (important for me), sometimes the degree of effort (ST vs LT), the degree of GFE, acceptance of my..peculiarities.. :D etc..
I think guys here, at least sometimes.. (and probably every where!!).. spend far to much energy and time on QUANTITY: the lower the price the better - regardless of the lady being totally unattractive or not, regardless or not if she behave as an asshole (sic!) or not etc.
IMHO: Don't chase the cheapest fuck, chase the best experience,... us here being Super-Focused on the price..)I fully agree with the sentiments expressed by "The Lucky Guy"
Put differently , one should always remember
" the pain of the price paid is soon forgotten , but the appreciation of superior quality will be long remembered"
This of course is doubly true if the price you pay is a pittance to begin with.
What are the chances of finding ladies inside the Hotel (i.e. in bar or by pool) and asking them to show up in the room? Discretion is going to be a major issue for me on this trip.
I honestly don't remember if there was a pool or an actual bar. I did not see either. There are women hanging around in the lobby sometimes, but usually they are just patrons. I would advise you and be observant to make sure.
Other than that, unless you stay at a total shithole, you can forget about "discreet".
Benefactor
07-23-07, 09:50
Other than that, unless you stay at a total shithole, you can forget about "discreet".Thanks Mate,
Looking increasingly likely, from feedback here, that my mongering on this trip will be limited to my time on the coast, which I guess is not a major catastrophe, from what I read about the coast around Mombasa. After mainly hanging out in Asia, I am very much looking forward to a visit to Africa.
I would also like to take this opportunity to pledge that I will contribute quality filed reports this time around - and, if ladies are willing - pictures.
Cheers,
Schuerzenjaeger
07-23-07, 19:51
Hi Guys,
Here a late entriy for your contest.
Have been upcountry on a long shit technical mission.
Enjoy and give me your votes.
I know a lady who can arrange for the discreet services but you will have to pay alot more for that.
I honestly don't remember if there was a pool or an actual bar. I did not see either. There are women hanging around in the lobby sometimes, but usually they are just patrons. I would advise you and be observant to make sure.
Other than that, unless you stay at a total shithole, you can forget about "discreet".
Mostly things like that are arranged with someone from the brothel and it is discreet but you will pay atleast somethig like 50 dollars but it is hustle free and secure I always use there services and you get what you want delovered.
Hi guys,
Can anyone let me know about the bars at Hilton, New Stanley Hotel , Intercontinental, Serena etc.
Can the girls be found at these bars as because of security I am scared to move out at night.
Whish should be the best hotel for some action?
Sneaky
Or you can have her meet you in the Jockeys Club at Hilton and then go with her to your room.
Regarding the Hilton, security staff wil notice your gf (that's their job), but she will not be asked her ID during the day or in the early evening. Just walk in the lobby with your friend as you were heading to their bar or restaurant, then you can take the elevator without any hassle.
Later that is impossible, security staff will ask yo to go to the reception desk in order to leaver her ID (whether she is a pro or not).
The Lucky Guy
07-25-07, 04:37
What are the chances of finding ladies inside the Hotel (i.e. in bar or by pool) and asking them to show up in the room? Discretion is going to be a major issue for me on this trip. When I stayed at Hotel Terminal last time I arrived in the morning and wanted something straight away without going out. I asked the staff to find a girl and they agreed. She didn't meet my critera and wanted too much so I dropped it. I don't remember the cost but it was somewhere like 3.000-5.000 KS (for ST), had she been more in my taste I may have taken her anyway but the combination of price and mismatch was sort of too much.
Anyway, I guess that you regardless of hotel ALWAYS can ask the staff (security, cleaners etc) to assist you. I have tried it at hotels in other countries and as long as you pay tip it seems to be more normal than asking for an iron or something like that. And it can't get much more discreet than the lady walking by herself to your door and just knocking.
You guys going to the Hilton - Yes the Jockey club exists there, but is a general waste of time - the honnnies have to bribe their way in and this is not so easy to accomplish. When i stayed at the Hilton a couple of honnies picked me up there, but for this you will have to pay, and of course the chickie is expecting $100 + because of the location, she sees five stars.
Having stayed at numerous hotels in Nairobi as i visit every three months or so; i am now at the bottom end of the hotel scale, i stay at the Terminal Hotel. I have now settled for this establishment as my base in Nairobi. The Terminal hotel is the closest to this term, with which my fellow mongers insist on calling, "girlfriendly". A double will set you back US$23.00 or 1600kes. The reception will never question you regarding your honey, i usually bring back three or so chickies a day with no problems.
Florida disco/Madhouse is just around the corner, with the most stunning chicks imaginable - going rate of between 2000 - 2500kes.
BurnMax2007
07-25-07, 05:23
Hi,
I am coming to Kenya from the U.S. at the beginning of August. I have a multiple-entry tourist visa. It seems that the maximum number of days I can stay is 30 days.
1. Is the 30 day maximum stay per entry or for the entire visa validity period?
2. Can I take a shuttle to a neighboring country, such as Arusha, Tazania then just re-enter for 30 more days?
3. Can I extend my stay at a government office in Nairobi or Mombasa?
4. What is the easiest method?
Thanks.
So many beautyful Girls in every shape and so sweet.
1000 Shilling a night - acuna matata!
I'll be in Nairobi tomorrow.
Interested in doing some pack hunting ? Drop me a message with a few lines about yourself.
Cheers
Hi,
I am coming to Kenya from the U.S.
Welcome to the forum. Mate, in short i would strongly recommend consulting with your local Kenyan High Commission for your answers, well before your departure date, they will have a website in the USA.
In Kenya are prices for schort time 500s up to 1000s. For all night from 1000s to 2000s. If many person from this forum will paying more, so wath. Girlfriend of my work in hospital from 8pm to 8am (nightwork) for 150s /night end pay from this money 40s for transport. Than you can hef idee about the valeu from 1000s (biggest banknote of Kenya) The price hef notting to do howmatch sex price in country where toerist life. In Kenya, 80procent from persons hef not more than 5000s/month. I was visit this country 9 thimes in 18 months special destination sex.
In Nairobi you have hotel park side hotel (1700s double) Not far from terminal hotel. This hotel make not problems if you coming with girl. Never I need help from workingpersons from hotel. If you will losed money for this. Do it. Ripp-off is waiting for you. In Kenya you will not hef problem to find girl. The girl will find you. During night. Not walk. Thake taxi (200s) in downtown. Thake not contakt with persons in the street if you not now this person. For my Nairobi is Nairobbery. Mombasa is mutch safer en relax. But hotelroom hef bigger prices in Mombasa. Glory gasthouse (1300s) with airco is best option end 100m from Casablance.
Carl Schmitt
07-26-07, 01:02
Hi guys,
I'm back from Nairobi.
Very easy to get into GFE here.
I've stayed in 680 hotel (double room 5000 bob).
The girls are coming in Simmers for their personal hunting of Wazungu, they also come at the terrace bar at the first floor in the hotel. They know and bribe a lot of staff members.
No problem to go in your room with the girl. The staff at the door let her go, the staff at the desk is mute, the watchman at the floor will ask you for a bribe. It's better if the girl negociate the bribe with the watchman, you'll pay something like 200 bob. For the girl, she'll ask you 3000 bob at the beginning, if you negociate for something like 1000 bob she'll direct you into a short time option. If she's great it's better to pay the normal price and to come back with a good souvenir.
Every type of girl in Florida 2000 and New Florida, but New Florida is smaller.
Light skin, black skin, petite and beautiful, tall, small or large tits J
Take a taxi to go back to your hotel.
I was with a kenyan friend so I've walked at night in the downtown streets.
Nothing happened to me but people often stopped us to tell him is crazy to go with me like that and to take a cab just right now. Downtown you'll get in the striptease places and the brothels where common Kenyans go. It's like Simmers and Floridas but the prices are lower and the girls more human ie they are not used to the sex industry of the place. They are not sure that the stranger will leave them alone after a short moment and that they'll meet an another one in the night or the next day. It may be dangerous, I don't know.
I've been also in a suburb called Mlolongo, there is a lot a places where people dance and where you can meet girls. No problem of security if you are with a Kenyan. No Wazungu here, you will meet nice people not corrupted by the massive invasion of the holidays.
To conclude on the security, there is a lot of police patrols and watchmen in the streets downtown because of different internal problems in relationship with the next December elections. Hakuna matata/ No problems. Safari njema na ngono njema/Good journey and good fuck.
Carl Schmitt
07-26-07, 01:31
terminal hotel. i have now settled for this establishment as my base in nairobi. the terminal hotel is the closest to this term, with which my fellow mongers insist on calling, "girlfriendly". a double will set you back us$23.00 or 1600kes. the reception will never question you regarding your honey, i usually bring back three or so chickies a day with no problems.
florida disco/madhouse is just around the corner, with the most stunning chicks imaginable - going rate of between 2000 - 2500kes.i totally agree with you. to the 680 you can come with a girl but you feel that it is not completely the good place for that. moreover, the difference in price can pay a top full nighter!
Capt Kremmen
07-29-07, 23:09
I liked Lucky Guy’s thorough piece of research on AfroIntroductions a few weeks ago but he was using that site as a way of finding out which country has the best girls rather than to discover if the site itself is any good, which is what I’d like to know. At first sight it looks like most of the women who use it don’t seem interested in one-off meetings. Just look at a few profiles of the girls Lucky Guy chose as good looking – so many of them say things like ‘if you are not serious please don’t bother’. But is this the real picture?
Does anyone have any personal experience of meeting any of the girls from this site for just a fun, and if so were they ones whose profiles made them seemed chaste? It would be great to know whether it’s worth pursuing any of these girls, in Kenya or anywhere else, before I pay a visit. It would help me to plan where to go. Any info on Uganda would be very much appreciated!
It seems wrong to display individual girls’ names here but maybe those of us who are able to swap private emails via this site could do so. Feel free to contact me this way. Cheers.
I have met a teacher for private schools in Kericho. He told me that he earns about 5000/= per monthBut people with qualifications some don't have job opportunities and opt to work for less money.
Carl Schmitt
08-01-07, 02:40
I've been told that a Kenyan deputy earns 10225 USD.
I've been told that a Kenyan deputy earns 10225 USD.One minister hef in Kenya 1288000s, 14000 euro.
End the president have same than bush in USA, end propertys.
This you not belive The problem with salery is not economich but politik.
Tradewinds
08-02-07, 21:51
Buffalo Bill's may be long gone but Annie Oakley's has risen from the ashes with the same "U" shaped bar and the same crowd. For those of you familiar with Nairobi its top of the road (I think its Milimani rd) passing Heron Court hotel on your right, at the top of the road is a T junction, cross over onto a dirt track leading to Comfort Hotel (formerly Eagle apartments) on your right, further 50yds past Backpackers is Annies.
Tradewinds.
LustyHombre
08-02-07, 22:22
One minister hef in Kenya 1288000s, 14000 euro.
End the president have same than bush in USA, end propertys.
This you not belive The problem with salery is not economich but politik.
Danke shon fuer klearing this all up for us simpletons!
Tradewinds
08-02-07, 22:32
Big and suprisingly sexy, danced for me plus BJ, very tight snatch. More to come
Tradewinds
Nice one Tradewinds! The pictures look great and I love them. More power to you. Give us more if you have them.
Cheers
Trick Williams
08-03-07, 05:54
Good post... I always see cats posting these lanky(skinny) ass chics in the African threads... Which is ok if thats what you like but any guy that has true love for african women knows its all about the ASS!!!! Good post buddy and please post more if you have it.
Any chance of photos with tata's out?
Black tata's are the best (and biggest)
Tradewinds
08-03-07, 23:13
First I had made contact with this hairdresser on the internet, landed on the morning flight, checked into the hotel by 10am, gave her a call she said she would leave work for a short break to come and see me, by 10:30am I was undressing her. Somewhat shy about opening her legs for the camera.
Tradewinds.
Arriving on the 07/08/07. Staying in Mtwapa.
Anyone wanna hook up for a beer?
Buffalo Bill's may be long gone but Annie Oakley's has risen from the ashes with the same "U" shaped bar and the same crowd. For those of you familiar with Nairobi its top of the road (I think its Milimani rd) passing Heron Court hotel on your right, at the top of the road is a T junction, cross over onto a dirt track leading to Comfort Hotel (formerly Eagle apartments) on your right, further 50yds past Backpackers is Annies.
Tradewinds.
Thanks for the information about Ann Oakley. Did not know about the place, but Bill´s was my "top one hang out" Unsurpassed so far, Simmers is a very close Nr. 2.
Anyway, will try it next time, in November.
Thanks.
The Lucky Guy
08-04-07, 20:34
If every guy wanted to have exactly the same kind of ladies it would be chaos. No matter how anyone looks - there will always be someone liking that particular look.
Taste and preference can be VERY different: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=76722
Wow, that is scary. Thanks for the laugh.
If every guy wanted to have exactly the same kind of ladies it would be chaos. No matter how anyone looks - there will always be someone liking that particular look.
Taste and preference can be VERY different: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=76722
GoodEnough
08-05-07, 16:07
Guys:
I'll be returning to Nairobi for a few days in mid-September, and it will be my first time back there in ten years. I'll be on my way to (gulp) Juba where I expect to have a very dry time of it.
Does anyone out there know what might be the best spot for meeting French-speaking women, preferably from Rwanda or Barundi? Do they congregate at Club Florida, for example, or is there some other location to which most French-speakers go as there was in Accra, Ghana when I lived there?
Thanks, and if any of you ever get over the the Philippines, where I live, I would be glad to help.
:D
GE
Jamis Plumber
08-05-07, 23:55
Guys:
I'll be returning to Nairobi for a few days in mid-September, and it will be my first time back there in ten years. I'll be on my way to (gulp) Juba where I expect to have a very dry time of it.
GE
Do not starve while in Juba. While there ask for directions to the offices of Asante aviation, a travel company. Any lady you find in there is good material to keep you company in the late hours. Many are foreigners from neighbouring countries and starved. They never gel with the locals or fellow company employees. If you are good at it, I await a report on squirters.
Big and suprisingly sexy, danced for me plus BJ, very tight snatch. More to come
TradewindsI think I know her, is it her that play in the film Big Moma.
I guess that she is the kind of woman that can take a good beating with a 10 inch dick with out problem
Member #3400
08-08-07, 15:16
Guys
After a successful trip to Odessa and Prague, i will be in Nairobi at Aug 17
Just a few days from now.
Anyone that interesting to join my daytime action are invited to PM me.
Beer is also an option.
Mosumba, are you ready? I will be later in Mombasa as well, so it will be my pleasure to buy a few beers.
Max
Markle Canard
08-08-07, 21:38
"Buffalo Bill's may be long gone but Annie Oakley's has risen from the ashes with the same "U" shaped bar and the same crowd."
Can I ask what is the deal with this place a good place to practise our hobby. And also the backpackers place close to the bar is it girl freindly.
Am debating late December for a 1st trip to Mombassa and Nairobi. That's when the Presidential election is scheduled. Was anyone ever there during election that can comment about safety level, etc.
Proliberalist
08-09-07, 13:02
At the school I helped build we pay preschool teachers 5000/= per month and primary school teachers 10500/per month. The grounds keeper and security guards get 4200/per month. Depending on which stat you go with unemployment is 40-60%. A 5000/per month job would make most people extremely happy. 23% of the population lives on under $1 per day, more in rural areas. $1/day translates to about 2000/per month.
While in Nairobi and talking to various peple, I was led to believe that a typical monthly pays for a hairdresser would by around 15,000 shillings, the hotel reception worker (not a five star hotel) 15,000 to 20,000. Lower to medium level office position 20,000 to 30,000 per month.
A local businessman (owner of a medium size shop and a travel agency) told me that he is giving his mistress 15,000 per month and in addition found for her job in his friend's business for another 15,000 per month (did not want to employ her in his business to "avoid any possible trouble"). Aparently, she is more than happy and is exlusively his.
He even mentioned that to ensure that she is not messing behind his back, on several occasions he redirected her mobile phone to his number (without her knowledge) to check who is call her........
Carl Schmitt
08-09-07, 13:21
I continue on the subject of the kenyan economy because it has an impact on the rate proposed by pro and non pro chickies. The PPP (GBP per capita) is 1200$ per year , the average Kenyan earns 100$ per month or roughly 6500 KES per month. The problem is that this average Kenyan doesn't exist, there is very rich people and very poor people. The middle class just start to appear. The unemployment rate is 40% and the population below poverty line is 50%. Kenya is richer than neighboring countries but is far away from G8-countries whose PPP is around 25000 and 35000$ per year.
LustyHombre
08-09-07, 14:56
While in Nairobi and talking to various peple, I was led to believe that a typical monthly pays for a hairdresser would by around 15,000 shillings, the hotel reception worker (not a five star hotel) 15,000 to 20,000. Lower to medium level office position 20,000 to 30,000 per month.These salary levels are realistic , according to what I have been told by several friends who own/operate mid size businesses ( i.e. large and very large ones by Kenya standards ) .
You've got to relativate what a girl expects from you for 1 night or more against these figures , not against what you'd pay at home ( $2-400/hr where I come )
LustyHombre
08-10-07, 15:41
I continue on the subject of the kenyan economy because it has an impact on the rate proposed by pro and non pro chickies. The PPP (GBP per capita) is 1200$ per year , the average Kenyan earns 100$ per month or roughly 6500 KES per month. The problem is that this average Kenyan doesn't exist, there is very rich people and very poor people. The middle class just start to appear. The unemployment rate is 40% and the population below poverty line is 50%. Kenya is richer than neighboring countries but is far away from G8-countries whose PPP is around 25000 and 35000$ per year.Carl, I hope you don't mind me correcting you a bit :
GBP - I suppose you refer to GDP ( Gross Domestic Product ) ?
PPP - stands for Purchasing Power Parity . i.e. some economists argue that if a Big Mac costs $3.20 in NYC but $ 5.00 in Beijing , the Yuan would be fairly valued at 1.56 rather than the current 7.56 ( of course that's rubbish bcs you need a big basket of consumer goods to arrive at more realistic comps).
By the same token, if the price of pussy in Kenya is 2,000/- while you pay min $400 in NYC , the true value of the KES would be around KES 5 / $ rather than today's rate of abt 67 .
Kenya mongers : hope you all know how good you have it here!
Guys cool down I been there for years. Just know all like mzungus because most of them have pesa.
Lets go back to content what this site is about.
Lovefems
Hello. Be sorry not to know English (to write with software translator). To ask what whether site of Africa date reliable, not to steal money?
http://www.afrointroductions.com.
This internet dating site steel not your money. But the girls from this site make you craesy. About Your money. Girls want to married serious mans. If you try to find only sex. Difficult. But by meeting change is big.
The Lucky Guy
08-13-07, 22:47
.. whether site of Africa date reliable, not to steal money?
http://www.afrointroductions.com.Hi Nurha!
The site itself is no problem. The ladies is not either a problem as long as you know what you are doing.
There are people sending money to ladies they haven't even met. I wouldn't say its necessarily a stupid thing to do - if you are rich - why not, but I don't think its a way of finding a new lady.
Today on CNN it was about a guy from Australia that went to Mali to "marry" the lady he had met on the Internet (they didn't say thru which site). Instead of being met by her family on the airport he was welcomed by a group of gangsters that kidnapped him for 12 days. The family got suspicious when he started to ask for more money and he got rescued.
There is a risk with everything, be reasonably smart and you shouldn't get in trouble.
Willyboy mentions that it would be difficult to get "non-serious" dates. I don't have any real experience myself but I have seen quit a lot of posts on ISG from guys that have used Afrointroduction and other sites to set up dates in advance, no one of them seams to have anything to complain about. (Maybe they promised things and then didn't keep them, i don't know, but it can obviously be used for just getting sex.)
If you want to find a lady for long-term relationship I guess it can work well but its more fun to go there and meet them in reality :D !
Hello. Be sorry not to know English (to write with software translator). To ask what whether site of Africa date reliable, not to steal money?
http://www.afrointroductions.com.
Not being one for having too much time for "the hunt" when in this part of the world - I've found Afro very useful for getting loads of phone numbers - and have had a few meetings with ladies - all have ended up in bed !
Thanks to Patrice for Josephine's number !
Whilst in Nairobi - wasting too much time in the hotel bar, on the wrong night with the wrong crowd - who were only there for the dance night - I got fed up with that and ended up calling Josephine !
A real GFE, a stunner when she arrived, acted like we had been friends for a longtime!
No holds barred, this girl, although slightly expensive was worth it.
She knew the meaning of service !I will be in Nairobi in a few weeks. She looks hot and I would like her services.
GoodEnough
08-15-07, 07:50
Guys:
I'm leaving four weeks from tomorrow for Nairobi, where I haven't been in ten years. I've only got four nights before going to four weeks of enforced celibacy in Juba, Sudan, so I've got to make the most out of it. I've read the posts here, and they're quite informative, but the question I have is what specific itinerary you would recommend.
I will not have the time to cultivate any non-pros, so is it better just to head immediately to Florida, or is there a circuit I should follow as I used to do sometimes in Ghana? I think there's also a club called Simmers. Is it as good as/better than Florida? I'm especially interested in meeting some ladies from Rwanda, Barundi, Congo or any of the other French speaking countries, though this is not an essential prerequisite.
Many thanks in advance for any advice. I would be glad to return the favor if any of you ever need help in the Philippines.
GE
Guys:
I will not have the time to cultivate any non-pros, so is it better just to head immediately to Florida, or is there a circuit I should follow as I used to do sometimes in Ghana? I think there's also a club called Simmers. Is it as good as/better than Florida? I'm especially interested in meeting some ladies from Rwanda, Barundi, Congo or any of the other French speaking countries, though this is not an essential prerequisite.
GE
Mate there is no better place than "the madhouse",Florida, in order to meet with your criteria. The chickies come from the vast area of Central and Eastern Africa who work the club. I did a honey from Rwanda some months back. you will see and meet some real stunners here.
Do not raise your expectations too high with regards to Simmers, in my opinion is nowhere in the league of Florida. Simmers is a very much an "off the street" open air joint, this may not be to your liking. Give Annie Oakleys pub a visit, about a ten minute ride from central Nairobi, well worth a call.
What i normally do is pay Annie Oakleys a visit just after dinner, have a few beers, watch a game of football on the telly there, jabber a bit, choose myself a honey, that is if she has not chosen me of course which normally is the case, get her down to the hotel, give her a quick one or two, see her on her way, minus any of my items.
Normally i mosey on down to Florida at about midnight which is just about the right time for the "main event" of the evenings entertainment. Florida closes at six in the morning. Enjoy!
GoodEnough
08-15-07, 11:56
Noddy:
Thanks for responding so quickly. I'll follow your advice and check out Annie Oakley's and then on to Florida.
GE
Proliberalist
08-15-07, 14:17
Guys cool down I been there for years. Just know all like mzungus because most of them have pesa.
Lets go back to content what this site is about.
Lovefems
I do not mean to pick the fight or argue the above point, but if you "have been there for years" and you want the contributors to "go back to the main topic of this site"..... it would help if you contribute to this site more than only 3 posts in 5 years......
Swede 1962
08-18-07, 12:12
Tomorrow I am back in Kenya to meet that girl Katie.
I have talked to her often in yahoo and seen her in cam.
She is sexy with a good body.
I will met her in Mombassa and we will have a lot of fun together.
No girls are fucking better as Africans. If they are thinking they are doing it for a serious relationship and marriage they will fuck with you more and hotter and wilder then any white woman can do.
I know Katie will do it good.
I told her that I am nearly 3 years single now and that I don't was with a woman since that time. She promised me that she is prepared for me and she will be ready for me whenever I need her and as much as I need her.
She already was very sexy in chat and in yahoo cam for me. If I ask her to dress sexy for me next day she was accepting and doing and she was willing to show me also more of her body.
I really know that she wants me.
I was telling her that I never was with a african girl (not true. Over the last 5 years I was fucking more then 20 africans).
She knows that I expect her to be very sexy and horny for me. I will fuck her any way I like and she will accept all.
Tomorrow their is starting a 2 week long dream.I just saw your report. I just wondering if you had a good time with that Katie girl? It would be nice seeing a report from your trip.
James James
08-19-07, 10:32
A contribution in the category "The Bigger the Merrier is Not Always True":Just saw your photos of the black girl. Please help. Where can I find her. She looks so great and fantastic. Just my type.
James
I do not mean to pick the fight or argue the above point, but if you "have been there for years" and you want the contributors to "go back to the main topic of this site"..... it would help if you contribute to this site more than only 3 posts in 5 years......Been in Kenya, not in this site.
Have fun
Do not raise your expectations too high with regards to Simmers, in my opinion is nowhere in the league of Florida. Simmers is a very much an "off the street" open air joint.
Noddy is right, the best girls are indeed in Madhouse - but hardly before midnight! For daytime action Simmers is the place to be. Whenever I was in Nairobi and felt a little bored after having had lunch, I picked a cuty for a relaxing afternoon session there.
Cheers - Hesekiels
Evening gents.
I'm living in Asia and have been having a lot of fun with the petite, silky-skinned gals out here. However, for some years now I've been harbouring a desire to visit Africa, and I've finally got round to it. So, next month I'll be having my first trip to Mombasa. I've been reading the Kenyan thread for ages now, and it looks like you're all having a great time.
I'd appreciate any advice anyone can give me on the following 3 subjects.
Hotels: I'm considering the Kahama hotel & the Kenya Bay Beach resort, which are both in my price range (around 50usd per night or less), and both on Bamburi beach I belive. Does anyone have any positive or negative opinions on either of these, or can suggest a better alternative?
Malaria: Do you all take malaria medecine? I assume I need to take Larium or Malarone, but I'd appreciate any views on this.
Money. Are travelers cheques the best way to go? I don't want to carry bundles of cash if credit cards are not widely accepted.
I'd be very greatful for any suggestions, and I assure you your help will be rewarded by a me posting detailed reports and a multitude of photos from my nocturnal adventures.
LustyHombre
08-21-07, 18:44
Evening gents.
I'd appreciate any advice anyone can give me on the following 3 subjects.
Hotels: I'm considering the Kahama hotel & the Kenya Bay Beach resort, which are both in my price range (around 50usd per night or less), and both on Bamburi beach I belive. Does anyone have any positive or negative opinions on either of these, or can suggest a better alternative?
Malaria: Do you all take malaria medecine? I assume I need to take Larium or Malarone, but I'd appreciate any views on this.
Money. Are travelers cheques the best way to go? I don't want to carry bundles of cash if credit cards are not widely accepted.Hotels : Not having staid at either , they both look pretty shabby from the outside, but looks may be deceiving.
Malaria : Haven't taken prophylaxis in years and have never been bitten ( sour blood, I have been told ) . If you do get bitten , an after-the-fact injection is available from every G.P. for very little cost and will cure you within 24 hrs. If you arrive here immunized with the latest prophylaxis to which the local strains haven't had time to develop resistance as yet , you have to spend a pretty penny disproportionate with the benefit , IMO.
Money : credit cards are widely accepted and there is a fair number of ATM's everywhere . Haven't seen a traveller's check in years.
Enjoy and be safe!
Randy Candy
08-22-07, 01:10
Malaria : Haven't taken prophylaxis in years and have never been bitten ( sour blood, I have been told ) . If you do get bitten , an after-the-fact injection is available from every G.P. for very little cost and will cure you within 24 hrs.
Money : credit cards are widely accepted and there is a fair number of ATM's everywhere . Haven't seen a traveller's check in years.
What is a G.P.? And what injection is this?
Malaria: Prophylaxis shouldn't be used anymore because it brings forward resistance. It's not necessary also. If you get bitten, go to a doctor, if not possible, you should have stand-by drugs with you. "Malarone" might be good as stand-by. Sometimes there is resistance, but it weakens the effects. Go to a doctor as soon as possible. More efficiency in Kenya has "Lariam" (Mefloquin - but don't use in Thailand!) or Riamet (Artemether+Lumefantrin).
Last agent combination is used by the Kenyan Government with the name "Coartem" since 2006. Because it's fairly cheap and effective also. Academics critized this because it brings forward resistance to a relatively new drug.
Money: It was told by earlier visitors that only VISA is accepted at most ATMs.
Just my short summary of my research.
You surely are draining your balls in Nairobi a few nights?
Your observations and homework cannot be faulted regarding your location in Mombasa, although i tend to favour the less crowded neighbouring, Nyali beach.
LustyHombre
08-22-07, 09:39
What is a G.P.? And what injection is this?
Malaria: Prophylaxis shouldn't be used anymore because it brings forward resistance. It's not necessary also.
Money: It was told by earlier visitors that only VISA is accepted at most ATMs.
G. P. Stands for General Practioner, I. E. Your family doc.
You are obviously well informed on the subject of malaria prophylaxis and treatment. Kudos to you.
Why would you use a credit card at an ATM, unless you like getting "double whacked"? I use my debit card at ATM's and credit cards at restaurants, hotels, gas stations etc.
You surely are draining your balls in Nairobi a few nights?
Thanks fellas, for the advice on Malaria & money.
I'll not be stopping in Nairobi, sadly, so all emptyings will take place in Mombasa. Next time I hope.
However, on my return flight to Hong Kong I will stop over in Bangkok where, if I've any juice left, the fun will continue.
I'd still welcome anyone's suggestions regarding accomodation.
I'd still welcome anyone's suggestions regarding accomodation.
A number of mongers seem to stay at Indiana beach hotel, or you can try the neighbouring Bamburi beach resort. Both i believe within your budget.
GoodEnough
08-23-07, 08:39
Guys:
I just got word today from our Nairobi office that I've been booked into the Serena Hotel. Can anyone tell me anything about it? I assume that it's girl friendly, but actually I know nothing about it.
If anyone is around on September 17th or so and wants to get together, I would be happy to buy the first beer.
GE
Johan Waans
08-23-07, 20:27
If i remember well...Serena is one of the top hotels in Nairobi.... Have never stayed there myself....It is on the road to Anny Oakley and a short taxi ride from the town centre where you will find Simmers and MAD House....
Jonathan10
08-24-07, 14:09
How about BDSM - SM in Kenya? (Are the girls submissive there? I guess African women to be quite different concerning BDSM depending from their respective culture?) If not Kenya-which country then?
Ron Murray
08-24-07, 23:48
Guys:
I'll be returning to Nairobi for a few days in mid-September, and it will be my first time back there in ten years. I'll be on my way to (gulp) Juba where I expect to have a very dry time of it.
Does anyone out there know what might be the best spot for meeting French-speaking women, preferably from Rwanda or Barundi? Do they congregate at Club Florida, for example, or is there some other location to which most French-speakers go as there was in Accra, Ghana when I lived there?
Thanks, and if any of you ever get over the the Philippines, where I live, I would be glad to help.
:D
GEFor french go to Cameroon
Randy Candy
08-25-07, 00:38
G. P. Stands for General Practioner, I. E. Your family doc.
You are obviously well informed on the subject of malaria prophylaxis and treatment. Kudos to you.
Why would you use a credit card at an ATM, unless you like getting "double whacked"? I use my debit card at ATM's and credit cards at restaurants, hotels, gas stations etc.Thanks! Like to be prepared.
I don't like to carry hundreds of $$ on my travel if not necessary. I have a CC without drawing fee on every ATM worldwide, so only the standard 2% "single whacking" ;) Still any reason why I shouldn't use it at ATMs?
LustyHombre
08-25-07, 10:22
Thanks! Like to be prepared.
I don't like to carry hundreds of $$ on my travel if not necessary. I have a CC without drawing fee on every ATM worldwide, so only the standard 2% "single whacking" ;) Still any reason why I shouldn't use it at ATMs?The "double-whack" I referred to earlier is that
1) CC's make not-so-obvious extra money by using very unfavorable (for you , that is) exchange rates which, of course, you only discover once you scrutinize your bill.
2) CC's treat ATM withdrawals as a cash advance and charge you ludicrous interest rates until the next cutoff date (my US$ AMEX is now at 24.99 % , my C$ MC at 18.99%) even if you pay your balance in full when due .
My debit card bills me
a) Exchange rates at Interbank rates ( i.e. not at retail )
b) No per transaction fee on any withdrawals worldwide
These savings might be important to you , especially since you seem to intend to stay in a budget motel .
The Lucky Guy
08-25-07, 23:32
How about BDSM - SM in Kenya? (Are the girls submissive there? I guess African women to be quite different concerning BDSM depending from their respective culture?) If not Kenya-which country then?
I have, I guess, the same interest as you have, albeit mine is more on the softer side, and I have been looking out for the possibility in Kenya (see this pictures: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69112, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69501, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69656, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=73534, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=73535 ) but...
I can't claim I know much about Kenya as I only been there once. I guess Musomba knows much more about this as he lives there but it is on the other hand difficult to know what water is when you are a fish :) ( I would definitely like to hear your comment about this Musomba!).
But, with my limited experience, I would say that it's at least 10 times more likely that you will find a lady accepting BDSM in for example Thailand then in Kenya. Kenyan women are available, yes, but they are not prostitutes in the same way as in Thailand. It's a very confusing difference in culture. Yes, there are prostitutes in Kenya, but on the other hand, any woman is more or less available. Does it mean all Kenyan ladies ARE prostitutes? No, it doesn't.
It's not the time to go into this in detail but I wrote about my findings in this report : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=588298#post588298 )
I would say this:
∑ Yes you will surprisingly enough be able to score with almost any lady,
∑ Yes you should always pay her something - albeit called "taxi money"
∑ No, you wont find any more ladies fancying BDSM than for example in Europe (and no less for that matter!)
If you want to indulge in "special interest mongering things" then you should go to countries having a developed sex industry. Kenya doesn't have that! It doesn’t mean it's not the perfect place to go to, but, as far as my conclusion goes, no, just like in Europe, most women will not accept BDSM before they know you very well. In Europe, as far as I am concerned, most women willingly accept soft forms of BDSM when they know the fellow.
Kenyan women are NOT submissive! They are, as far as I can see, VERY proud of themselves. I would say that more or less anything is possible or negotiable in Thailand, but not so in Kenya (please correct me if I'm wrong, Musomba)
The reason for this is the following; most ladies you will encounter, that are really ATTRACTIVE, will be found at discos and similar. They are NOT prostitutes in the same way as ladies are in for example Pattaya, but, they are AVAILABLE in a sense that I not fully understand. But certainly appreciate! (I wrote more about it here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=589957#post589957 )
Good luck and please report back if I am wrong (or for that matter: if I'm right) about BDSM in Kenya!
Hi all. Being a n00bie, always looking for a way to contribute.
If you go to this World Social Forum link - http://wsf2007.org/info/accommodation - there is another link that allows a download of an Excel spreadsheet. Some wonderful person(s) did a lot of work on this, as it shows almost all hotels in and around Nairobi, together with USD and KSh prices, and single/double rates, divided into (under 20USD)/(20-100 USD)/(over 100USD).
(It doesn't list my favorite hotel, which I will not share. Sorry! It's not girl-friendly anyway.)
The list was last updated in October 2006, so the price may be a bit off. Also consider that Kenyan Shilling fluctuates. A lot. And a few hotels may no longer exist.
I imagine that each year the WSF will update this list, so keep a bookmark handy. I just wish they maintained a column for "Girl-Friendly?"
Hope it's useful.
Carl Schmitt
08-29-07, 09:51
A nice girl (photographer: Paascal Renoux):This picture is magnifique!
I have publicly warned Max/Efremof a few times on his exploits and that this may catch up with him. Kenyan police are hard core if they have cause or reason.
I don't think we should lynch Mousomba for bringing this out I love to look at Efremof's pictures but I disagree with his sensationalizing of the ladies because it may put them at risk. This is not at joke.
I am not surprised to find out that the ladies all know him. When I used to frequent places like F-2 it was obvious form talking to the ndogos ndogos (hookers) almost everything about some of the guys. Many of these "
working girls" are like a small gang of women.
Max should thank Mousomba.
Member #3400
08-31-07, 07:54
Mosumba pretend to be a monger but in fact is very different. A you know in kenya
surviving is the only drive. Musumba was the one that find this girl and show her the photos.
I met this guy, he is not a monger just a poor guy that want to make some money. The deal was that the girl will take money and pay musumba some.
How musumba knew that? the only answer is very simple. he was the one that show the girl the photos.
thus who really know kenya knows that the term "Kenyan Monger" does not exist.
the only drive is money.
becarful from him, he his a dangerus guy and very smoth . he new in our forum and you all know me for years. He was the one that make the deal with the girl.
MarcoStraight
08-31-07, 08:40
Mosumba pretend to be a monger but in fact is very different. A you know in kenya
surviving is the only drive. Musumba was the one that find this girl and show her the photos.
I met this guy, he is not a monger just a poor guy that want to make some money. The deal was that the girl will take money and pay musumba some.
How musumba knew that? the only answer is very simple. he was the one that show the girl the photos.
thus who really know kenya knows that the term "Kenyan Monger" does not exist.
the only drive is money.
becarful from him, he his a dangerus guy and very smoth . he new in our forum and you all know me for years. He was the one that make the deal with the girl.
Don't worry my friend because FACTS are what really matter in life and you,through the years, have proved with your useful infos to be a GOD for all of us . If I'm considering to go back to Kenia after years is just because people like you or Lucky Guy so keep on posting your great advices and pics.... Your work is extremely appreciate it.
I got only three words for you : Thanx,thanx,thanx.....
Take it easy.
M.
Carl Schmitt
08-31-07, 09:57
Mosumba pretend to be a monger but in fact is very different. A you know in kenya
surviving is the only drive. Musumba was the one that find this girl and show her the photos.
I met this guy, he is not a monger just a poor guy that want to make some money. The deal was that the girl will take money and pay musumba some.
How musumba knew that? the only answer is very simple. he was the one that show the girl the photos.
thus who really know kenya knows that the term "Kenyan Monger" does not exist.
the only drive is money.
becarful from him, he his a dangerus guy and very smoth . he new in our forum and you all know me for years. He was the one that make the deal with the girl.
I'm very sorry about this Max. I hope you will find a way to escape of this trap.
Member #3400
09-01-07, 10:13
Thanks for the encouragement
I just confirmed with the girl that musumba was the one that reveal the photos and
inform her. I hope this sad story will come to end soon.
The stories that i am planing to buy a boat or i sold my Videos/Photos for money and become a million are ridiculous.
I had a dream to open a small hotel for Mongers like us. Playing MP3 music and share update information. To make this dream come trough i worked for 10 years as IT specialist and saved everything i have now.
I hope i can returned to Kenya in the future and open our small hotel.Its a wonderful place. We do not want any spy within our community. Musumba killed my dream and i am very sorry.
Thanks for the encouragement
I hope i can returned to Kenya in the future and open our small hotel.Its a wonderful place. We do not want any spy within our community. Musumba killed my dream and i am very sorry.I hope you will do that - I'm interested to choin with this Project.
I was allways little afraid (also for the Girls, when you show the Faces - specially from Muslim!)
Good Luck - will be in Mombasa in September again.
Nairo Bery
09-01-07, 15:25
Thanks for the encouragement
I just confirmed with the girl that musumba was the one that reveal the photos and
inform her. I hope this sad story will come to end soon.
The stories that i am planing to buy a boat or i sold my Videos/Photos for money and become a million are ridiculous.
I had a dream to open a small hotel for Mongers like us. Playing MP3 music and share update information. To make this dream come trough i worked for 10 years as IT specialist and saved everything i have now.
I hope i can returned to Kenya in the future and open our small hotel.Its a wonderful place. We do not want any spy within our community. Musumba killed my dream and i am very sorry.Hi Efremof,
Must confess I really enjoyed your pics and reports and I don't think you have to be sad about this musumba.
See in from the positive side, you and all of us mongers have learnt a lesson not to trust people too easy. You still have the money you safed for all this years and have the chance to invest it wise. It would be much worse if you would have invested already and someone have messed you up.
Kenya is a wonderful country espc. For us mongers but keep in mind investing is such countries is high risk cause the legal-system isn't like europe and people can really mess you up or make your business suffer espc. When they are powerful and have influence.
Best of luck
Nairo Bery
Hi guys,
I'm planning a trip to Mombasa in December/January and I'm looking for advice on how to book a hotel.
I did a search on the internet, but only found very expensive hotels. I'm sure Mombasa must have some cheap places to stay?
Where do you guys usually stay?
Thanks:)
Unfortunately hotel rates do not come cheap in Mombasa, and don`t the industry know it. There are literally hundreds of hotels on the beach front of north Mombasa. The daily rates vary from 2000 - 7000kes +
You have not stated what you are prepared to pay. Try Bamburi beach resort at roughly 3500kes daily rate. Neighbouring this is Indiana beach hotel, their rates are 5000+. Now you will find cheaper than 2000kes but these hotels will generally be away from the beach: Be warned. Summer in Mombasa is no joke, you are best advised to book a room with air con. Always stay on the beachfront as you get the cool sea breeze blowing which i regard as essential.
You may think this a laugh, once you there, you will understand. Availability of rooms is not a problem, pre-booking is not essential i have found. Hope this helps just a touch.
By the way: Budget at least 2000kes taxi fare nightly. During the day you can use the local matatu for a few shilling.
Glory Villas 1000kes, or there-abouts, i think is central Mombasa, close to Casablanca club, just come to mind. Wheather they have AC, i would not know.
You think Kahabas (prostitutes) are fools?they take money upfront and are smart business people if they think you will marry them and bring them to the USA or any european country they will fuck you for free or if they fancy you they will fuck you for free. You don't have to love them or like them.
If they are dumbassess and thinking of the american dream and give it for free bad luck.
Erdnis
If you are on a budget then you can stay in Mtwapa town. Hotel Georgias is 1000 / night but pick a room not facing Kendas' bar which plays it's music far too loud.
Cold showers only tho.
You will also save on taxi's as it's next door to Casaurina which is the most lively place around Mon, Tue, Wed.
If staying in Mtwapa, eat at Little Chef. Fillet steak and chips for 200.
Just got back from there so all these prices are accurate.
Member #4643
09-03-07, 22:40
Will be in Nairobi with business colleagues end of October. Would like to have an alternative venue to have sex with beautiful Kenyans at night. Is there anyone local who would be interested in helping me out, as I would really not be able to go out and pick up ladies to bring back to my alternative hotel? I would be wiling to make a fair arrangement.
PM me if you are interested.
Visiting Kenya was last on my priority as I heard it was a dangerous place. My previous visit to Dar es Salaam was not that exciting but It still has a lot of scope for mongering. I visited Kenya a couple of months before was due to excellent reports from all the members of this forum. I even wanted to go to addis and morocco but did not get much support from the members in that forum. Finally after reading all the exciting reports from all the senior members and specially lucky guy, I went to Mombassa for 4 nights and I had best time of my life compared to more than 20 countries I had visited earlier.
I do not know much about Nairobi as I stayed only in Mombassa. I found every one very friendly and polite. Even the girls that I picked up from Casablanca, Tembos and Causarina were great and they all gave me an excellent GFE time. Allwe have to do is treat them with respect as we are all human beings. They will give you an excellent time. If you treat them like *****s they will behave like one.
I have also a lot of respect for all the regular and senior member who have posted excellent reports and pictures. It is very wrong to judge any members or call them as pimps as they only help first time visitors to find the right hotel and places to pick up. This forum helped me a lot and made it easier for me to monger in Mombassa.
By posting negative messages the contibuters will stop posting it will be more of a loss than gain for all of us.
I will definately visit this country again and readers who has not visited this beautiful country I definately recomend.
The question is which type of payment. I like to have the feeling not to pay for sex by itself.
When I stayed in Kenya, lots of girls wanted to stay with me and of course I invited them for drinks, food and sometimes they travelled with me around. So at the end it is nearly the same like in Europe or US.
It depends on you, how you treat the girls. I always explained them in the beginning what my expectations are.
MarcoStraight
09-04-07, 21:09
When I stayed in Kenya, lots of girls wanted to stay with me and of course I invited them for drinks, food and sometimes they travelled with me around. So at the end it is nearly the same like in Europe or US.
I used to do this as well ....then my wallet was more and more empty .
Paying the girls immediately after the job is not only wiser , it's cheaper.
I used to do this as well ....then my wallet was more and more empty .
Paying the girls immediately after the job is not only wiser , it's cheaper.
Several months back: an experience
The "non- pro": so she said
Gentlemen. The last two posts remind me of a recent experience in Nairobi. Noddy meets a most sexy and beautiful chickie at a restaurant of which he now forgets the name.
"Oh, i`m not a girl such as the like that you guys meet at the clubs", she says, regarding prostitutes. This is a real lady, of course i have my doubts but nevertheless go along with her act. Experience has taught me, some harsh lessons in the past.
We had a wonderful evening together, dancing, restaurant, drinking then back to the hotel to fuck our brains out. No such mention of money to date. Come mid-morning, waking ourselves, got to work on that sexy body and another round of hot sex, a lovely time is being had. Noddy is standing with his towel around his waist, chickies phone goes.
"Oh, oh ......really, you want it now, or i`m to leave the flat. Yes, yes... i will see what i can do". Noddy is thinking at 200mph now, he simply has to head this one off. Chickie turns toward Noddy, stress and anxiety written across her face.
"That was my landlord". She says
"Well, Noddy has to go for a shower now, love". He quickly retorts.
Before she could say anything further Noddy headed off with tremendous disappointment, what a letdown, this one showed so much promise. Noddy has spent several thousand shilling during the last night on the "non- pro".
Needless to say, got rid of her as quick as possible. She still text`s me today, professing her love for me. I have given her ample opportunity to come clean with regards how she gets by in life, paying a 15 000kes monthly rent and living expenses but she declines to so. She is in contact with the "naive" whom i presume send her money in order for her to get by. These guys have no idea what and who is playing them.
Conclusion: Gentlemen. There is no such thing as a free ride, you will constantly find, "non-pros" cost more than than pro, been said many times over on this wonderful forum. Thanks for sharing your experiences and valued opinions.
Member #4643
09-05-07, 03:18
Hi Forest,
I have some good contact in Nairobi.
Do you have an email?
I cannot send PM.
Take care
I will contact you if you tell me what you can do (I would have to pay Admin for you to be a member). Perhaps there are others who would love to get to know you also!
BootyLover
09-05-07, 03:30
Conclusion: Gentlemen. There is no such thing as a free ride, you will constantly find, "non-pros" cost more than than pro, been said many times over on this wonderful forum. .....
This is a well proven fact.
Hello!
Am back- it's been a while. Nice to see the forum's active with the usual member-vs-member bashing.
Just a quick comment on hotel rates now- Mombasa's becoming expensive as demand keeps rising. Clever marketing I suppose. We were lucky for the past few years the economy was depressed and hotels were literally giving away rooms. That was then. Now it's hard enough to find any decent accomodation at affordable prices especially weekends. I can't see it getting any better.
As for taxi - I just rent a car (2,500 per day) and drive around. Much cheaper than hiring a cab and not really all that dangerous. Compared to many third world countries Mombasa drivers are downright timid. Just watch out for 'em ramshackle "matatus" usually with no indicators or brake lights (or brakes, for that matter).
Anyhow lots of stories, new girls, wild girls, hot girls, bad girls, good girls..
. Will post shortly.
Peace!
/Au
Unfortunately hotel rates do not come cheap in Mombasa, and don`t the industry know it. There are literally hundreds of hotels on the beach front of north Mombasa. The daily rates vary from 2000 - 7000kes +
You have not stated what you are prepared to pay. Try Bamburi beach resort at roughly 3500kes daily rate. Neighbouring this is Indiana beach hotel, their rates are 5000+. Now you will find cheaper than 2000kes but these hotels will generally be away from the beach: Be warned. Summer in Mombasa is no joke, you are best advised to book a room with air con. Always stay on the beachfront as you get the cool sea breeze blowing which i regard as essential.
You may think this a laugh, once you there, you will understand. Availability of rooms is not a problem, pre-booking is not essential i have found. Hope this helps just a touch.
By the way: Budget at least 2000kes taxi fare nightly. During the day you can use the local matatu for a few shilling.
Glory Villas 1000kes, or there-abouts, i think is central Mombasa, close to Casablanca club, just come to mind. Wheather they have AC, i would not know.
I totally agree with you about GIRLS MUST BE PAYED . Just one question...Do u really thing Max didn't give any cent to the girls ? Sorry mate but ,as somebody else said, this is very hard to believe....I was in Kenia 10 years ago , I was younger , healthier and better and no way I could fuck those beauties for free. He probably payed 'em and for an unknown reason he loves to say he don't pay.
Anyway he gave a lot of infos on this forum just like you ,lucky guy and someone else so he has my respect about it. About he doesn't pay...I don't believe.If you don't pay you'll get away with it once. Twice. Maybe even three times. Unlikely more than that. Word gets around and the girls will simply avoid you. Nothing worse than being ignored by a WG. Ok I'm sure there's lots of things worse but you get the drift.
Anyhow off to Nairobi tomorrow for the weekend. So many girls, so little time. Not sure how many of you guys know Yasmin- she'll probably be my first stop. Hopefully I'll run into something nice at her place (Kamila? ). Recently all I've gotten is bad attitude. Report to follow soon (If I survive).
/au
The Lucky Guy
09-06-07, 01:30
Where have all the pictures gone.
I think these are not posted before.
Member #4643
09-06-07, 07:47
Hi Forest,
No need to pay for me. I can afford it.
I am in Mombasa but I could hook you up with some girlfriends I have in Nairobi is you want.
Take care
I read this posting too late. I bought you a 6 month subscription. Unfortunately, I cannot PM you yet with my email address, but you should be able to contact me soon.
In any case, I am quite appreciative of your offer to help.
... Conclusion: Gentlemen. There is no such thing as a free ride, you will constantly find, "non-pros" cost more than than pro, been said many times over on this wonderful forum. Thanks for sharing your experiences and valued opinions.
I fully agree with you. Even if it is a real, honest non pro, you still end up paying more in food, drinks and gifts ...
Regards. Bimbo Boy
Is it possible to update taxi costs in Mombasa area? They seem going upper.
At night I remember, for instance, bamburi-casaurina at 1000 KSH, Bamburi-tembo at 700 ksh, Bamburi-Casablanca (Mombasa downtown)1200 ksh. What about now?
Doctor_Skank
09-06-07, 14:56
Where have all the pictures gone.
I think these are not posted before.
Great pics, I just love skinny east african chicks...
I fully agree with you. Even if it is a real, honest non pro, you still end up paying more in food, drinks and gifts ...
Regards. Bimbo Boy
BB:
So very true! And all the mates who try to make us believe that there are so many free pussies in Africa are grossly mistaken! Conclusion: With the usual precautions so-called pros are the much better deal - at least financially!
IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels
GoodEnough
09-07-07, 00:30
Guys:
Thanks to all of you for the informative posts. I leave from the Philippines for Kenya in a little over a week and at least I feel like I know where to go and what to expect when I get there. I still have to questions that I hope some of you will be able to answer.
First, I'm booked by my office at the Serena. I heard from one guy that he had a problem taking girls there and eventually had to pay off the security guards. Do any of you know if this is true? I do not want any hassles at all bringing someone back to the hotel.
Second, when taking girls from places like Club Florida or Simmers, what's the average price. I've been told several things by several people here in the Philippines but I would rather hear from guys who actually have been there recently and know what they're talking about. I'm not looking for the cheapest possible alternatives but I don't want to pay over market prices either.
Thanks for any assistance you can provide. I'll write a report when I've once again experienced the joys of Africa.
GE
@GoodEnough
Usually I would not pay more than 1000,- max. 1500,-. But if you stay at Serena they will expect more from you because they know the prices.
I am sure you will pay more and that is the reason prices are always climbing up.
.. I heard from one guy that he had a problem taking girls there and eventually had to pay off the security guards. Do any of you know if this is true?
Second, when taking girls from places like Club Florida or Simmers, what's the average price.
GE:
Unlike in the Philippines the hotels will most probably charge you for double occupancy. In case the girl is not duly registered at the reception the guards will expect an adequate bribe. Actually I tend to discourage anybody to do so since that invites trouble either with the management, or, even worse, with the guard himself (once a crook bothered me early in the morning, asking me for additional money for 'his kind support'!). So, it might be a good idea to book straight a room for two.
Prices at Florida or Simmers are in the same range like in LA Cafe/MNL, maybe slightly higher - but of course depending on your negotiation skills!
Have a great time!
Cheers - Hesekiels
LustyHombre
09-07-07, 10:03
Is it possible to update taxi costs in Mombasa area? They seem going upper.
At night I remember, for instance, bamburi-casaurina at 1000 KSH, Bamburi-tembo at 700 ksh, Bamburi-Casablanca (Mombasa downtown)1200 ksh. What about now?Judging from what I have heard from others , your figures sound just about right ( no first-hand knowledge since I am my own chauffeur ).
You may want to consider that rental cars are available from abt 2,500/day. I find it much less scary to drive myself than to entrust myself to a cabbie anyhow.
LustyHombre
09-07-07, 10:10
Where have all the pictures gone.
I think these are not posted before.LG,
Thank you for "priming my pump" again !
She's just my type. Pity that I am restricted to day time activities.
@GoodEnough
Usually I would not pay more than 1000,- max. 1500,-. But if you stay at Serena they will expect more from you because they know the prices.
I am sure you will pay more and that is the reason prices are always climbing up.
It is my experience, even the most mildly mannered chick from Florida would have difficulty in accepting this low a payment. Expect chicks from Simmers to accept this rate as mentioned by Chi123.
Florida/madhouse are 2000 and upwards depending on your negotiating skills.
I would have difficulty in believing that Chi123 would be able to get away with paying this little to the hardcore of Florida. Shi123 mate, could you confirm that this is what you believe you pay the Florida chicks?
African Lover
09-07-07, 12:08
Shi123 mate, could you confirm that this is what you believe you pay the Florida chicks?Don't worry, I strongly believe that some mentioned prices are simply "blue sky prices" and shouldn't be taken too serious. But I wonder what the idea is behind this. 2000 KSH shouldn't cause any problem, only very classy girls may expect more.
GoodEnough
09-07-07, 16:02
Thank you gentlemen for responding so quickly. I'm not a bad negotiator, but I never discuss price with a girl picked up at LA. However, I've never had one complain about what I've paid her. It's going to thoroughly [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off to have to bribe some sycophantic security guard, but I guess a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
I've been advised by a friend of mine here, who travels to Nairobi once a year or so to hit Simmers in the afternoon/early evening and then move on to Florida. This is probably what I'll do.
If any of you guys are around when I'm there, I'd be happy to buy the first couple of beers.
GE
The Lucky Guy
09-07-07, 18:41
I'm not a bad negotiator, but I never discuss price with a girl picked up at LA. However, I've never had one complain about what I've paid her.
I would say that the price in Nairobi in general is higher than Mombasa. Also, to me it seems that all or most ladies at Florida 1&2 are pros rather then semi-pros. My best guess is; yes 2000KS may not be a problem for an average lady after some negotiation. But it would be more than difficult to take one of the top-girls home for LT for 2000 KS. How much? For gods sake it's a market economy!!
Sometimes people don't remember that the normal capitalistic laws, like "the law of supply and demand" is very much applicable on the mongering scene; an average girl can take an average price - the few top ladies at a certain place can, will and should ask for more. After all, they may be hookers, but they are not stupid! Only guys believing they are not aware of the intrinsic qualities of the market economy are stupid. (IMHO of course.)
In Mombasa I would recommend not to talk about the price, just pay without questions asked the day after (I always paid 2000 KS in Mombasa for LT). In Nairobi, however, I'm not so sure it's advisable to not negotiate beforehand. At least if you take someone from Florida, as it is a place with a lot of pros, they may like to cause problem the day after just for the fun of it. Maybe other members can come with their view point on this.
My impression is that the average ladies at Simmers, are below in price those at Florida, but of course, many start at Simmers and move on to Florida 1&2.
An exclusive place with almost only top-ladies is Casablanca/Nairobi (a fancy villa located some kilometers outside of the city). At least 30% where stunners when I was there, but as I brought girls with me I didn't have a reason to talk with any of them. A military guy from UK stationed in Kenya said that the going price at that place is 5.000KS. Don't know how true that is but I guess it's correct; it's a top-notch place with top-notch ladies. If money isn't an issue I would definitely recommend Casablanca.
This report, " Kenya Report: The Women" (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=588298#post588298), is mostly about hunting in Mombasa, but maybe it can be of some help also for Nairobi. It's not so much about exact prices - more about what is influencing the price you end up having to pay!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Is it possible to update taxi costs in Mombasa area? They seem going upper.
At night I remember, for instance, bamburi-casaurina at 1000 KSH, Bamburi-tembo at 700 ksh, Bamburi-Casablanca (Mombasa downtown)1200 ksh. What about now?
You should budget 2000 - 2200kes nightly, absurd, but there you go unless you have your own wheels. A typical round trip from say Bamburi to Casablanca and Florida return, is 1000kes each way.
Your driver will take you and wait for you, all night if needed.
Airport to Bamburi rate is 1200kes.
The Lucky Guy
09-07-07, 21:46
You should budget 2000 - 2200kes nightly, absurd, but there you go unless you have your own wheels. A typical round trip from say Bamburi to Casablanca and Florida return, is 1000kes each way.
Your driver will take you and wait for you, all night if needed.
Airport to Bamburi rate is 1200kes.Hi! The quote above is right, BUT, comm'on, hiring a cab that is "your own" for the whole evening, driving back and forth like crazy, for about 2000+ KS is not expensive!! I don't remember the distance between Causarina and Mombasa city, but it is at least a drive of 20 minutes. For the agreed money you can go back and forth how much you want. Including places in the city and places like Tembo etc. It's really cheap!
There is a way of getting even more value from your driver, especially if you are traveling alone, he can help you with the hunting (like a "wolf-pack"). That is of course if you have brought him inside.
I would say; if you are paying for a driver all night - and he is overall ok - bring him in to the place. You can at any time "use" him to approach girls, or asking him to make sure it's girls "flowing around". You can always do it your self, BUT, once YOU have started to talk to someone, you are a bit stuck to that person. If someone else is gathering the party - YOU - can pick and choose. It can be a really good complement.
Mongering is a tough job! Sometimes you need a partner! For Mombasa area I have one that is really, really good! Send a PM and you will get his phone number.
Guys
As you know, prices are flexible in Africa and can vary widely.
I have payed,( 2 weeks ago), 800 shilling from Mtwapa to Mombasa town. Its was midnight.
Mosumba: Thanks :-)
Hi! The quote above is right, BUT, comm'on, hiring a cab that is "your own" for the whole evening, driving back and forth like crazy, for about 2000+ KS is not expensive!! I don't remember the distance between Causarina and Mombasa city, but it is at least a drive of 20 minutes. For the agreed money you can go back and forth how much you want. Including places in the city and places like Tembo etc. It's really cheap!
Oh sir! Oh dear! Tomorrow i embark on my eighth trip in 24 months to Kenya. I would much rather be going elsewhere but out of necessity i am required to do so, not that i mind.
Just as yourself, after my first trip, the romanticism of it all far outweighs the cost factor. If i am not mistaken please correct me, you have made but one trip to this part of the world. This is no criticism of yourself as i believe you are a credit to the forum.
As for myself, whenever i have to haul out taxi fare, it hurts, having done so often and no doubt so in the future, hopefully soon i will acquire my own set of wheels in Mombasa.
I could well imagine some taxi driver saying to me, regarding your advice: Invite him in! After feeding and buying him refreshments, he pipes up with: "Mate, get me one of `em". Nay!.....and never to that i say. You do not need any taxi driver to hold you by the hand sir, if you lack the confidence to approach the expensive looking, there is game for all.
A little bit i should add is. Do not spend too much time to and fro in taxi`s at night. The cops are absolute wankers at the road blocks, they will ruin your evening, especially on the road from Bamburi to Mtwapa
Hi Folks,
Many thanks for your information about taxi prices.
So I can assume that If I pay 2.000 KSH, I should keep the taxi driver all night long and he should take me in any disco or night club waiting for me till I decide to come back to my hotel. Did I understand well?
GoodEnough
09-10-07, 12:00
I will be arriving in Nairobi at about 5 in the morning on the 17th, a week from today, and I'll be around for three nights. If anyone wants to get together for a beer, a meal or whatever, let me know.
Thanks for all the great information. I'll post on my experiences once I've had a chance to follow some of the suggestions received.
GE
not much seems to have changed since my last stay at north coast. besides that people at the forum start to talk about kenda's as a place for mongering. let me tell you that locals remember you when you resort to this place, but they don't when you resort to causarina. the girls you met at kenda's live in the buildings around kenda's - and their boyfriend probably sits at the next table.
the pics of kenda's that gladiator posted are an example of that #1929
Hi Folks,
Did I understand well?
You surely did sir!
My first night back in Nairobi will certainly be a memorable one for time to come. Met a lovely chick 20years my junior from Bujambura, Burundi. She could hardly speak english but not a problem, an ensatiable apetite for sex, when i completed she had hardly started. What a wonder this girl is, we have arranged to bump into eachother tonight again, something i hardly do. She must be good!
Put in a post when i complete my trip. Also went to Simmers for lunch but a smell of sewer works put me off my appetite. Met Josie(josephine) after a few beers for lunch we got down to action, cost 1500kes.
Overall it is great to be back. Reports to come.
I'll be arriving in Mombasa in just under a week, and was wondering if anyone could suggest a nice place where I can watch the rugby matches, but that still has young ladies around or nearby at least?
2 days ago, here in China, I was drinking in a bar and got chatting with a seaman from Poland who had visited Mombasa a few years back. He talked to me of Casablanca, but also of some other bar with, he claimed, a mega TV screen where EPL & the like is shown, but with lots of lasses on hand. He said the ladies would sit outside while a game was on, then flock back inside to join the fellas once the final whistle was blown. Sounds good to me, but he couldn't remember the name of the place.
Member #4364
09-11-07, 17:53
This could be the hotel bar of the castle; there is a big screen; you are
sitting next to the dining area; and on the other side you can see the
walking area of the street; many girls will have a look to you.
Cheers
Member #4364
09-11-07, 17:55
sorry; " at you" !!!
Am in Mombasa from 29 Sept for a couple of weeks. Would love to meet up with some fellow wsg forum subscribers for a chat and have a beer.
Those who would like to join me and have some group sex fun would be most welcome also. Please PM me.
Take Care.
Donnachaa
Many thanks to everyone for the information. Full reports of my adventures will follow in a month or so.
I was visit Mombasa.--Nairobi from 28/8 till 12/9. Pay always 1500/night. Girls around big tree mombassa go FULL night for 500s. But gentelmans. Pay not less than 1000s. The girl hef no money end try to survivel. In Nairobi madhouse. One girls ask my 15000s. Was thinking that I am first time in Kenya. But less than 2000s is difficult. Al info wath you need ask my. I was visit Kenya 10 thimes in 20 months. If you want holiday girlfriend ask my with I'm.
Going to Mombassa, first time, over xmas. A lot of info on board about hotels but in bits and pieces. Was trying to narrow down hotel choice. Fontana sounds great but no AC. Any other recommended ones w/ AC, girl friendly, feel free to offer up. Hoping to be relatively near beach and night time action. Cheers
One lokal man schow my place with name MILENIUM pub, daer where girls for 200s schort time (room 350s). Also Hi was going over second hand market congowea. After this market Hi schow my lokal cafe where Hi contakt girls with oner from cafe (prices again for 200s) Than 100meter from highway malindi road (in babalolo) Daer 3 girls for house end Hi tell my also 200s for schotthime. But this lokal man contakt lot of persons for this sexdaels end I not trust situation end I laeve him. I hef lot of telefon nr from girls for 1000s /night. I can trust this girls (old friends) Better to pay more end not risk my life. One thime thoke 2 girls out of casablanca end pay 500s extra for reseption. But one girl aktif end the no2 only look. Was sending one away with 1500s. One stay all night end giving 20 euro. It was my last day, normal I pay less. My normal tarif is 1500s/night.
Airport ..city ..800s
Wtwapa -city ..800s
Tembo--city ..500s
Tembo --florida ..800s
Casablanca --florida 200s.
Airport --bamburi ..1200s .
Tip. Thake tuk-tuk for 100s Casablanca.-Florida en ask telefon nr. Call him in Florida end Hi pik you for 100s return to casablaca.
The taxi drivers from florida will drinking your blod. In the city is price for tuk-tuk 50s, but for mzungo is 100s klassik.
Hi Donnachaa,
I'm planning to go to Mombasa beginning of October for 2 weeks ( 6th october to 20th october not fixed amready).
We could meet there if you are still there during this period of time?
I try to find an appartement to rent, but it's not really easy ... Do you have any information about the best place to rent an appartement : is Nialy a good choice?
And if you have a website with ads to rent an appartement it would be nice!
Hope to hear from you soon!
Bye
Marco
Am in Mombasa from 29 Sept for a couple of weeks. Would love to meet up with some fellow wsg forum subscribers for a chat and have a beer.
Those who would like to join me and have some group sex fun would be most welcome also. Please PM me.
Take Care.
Donnachaa
Hi,
I'm planning to go to Mombasa for to weeks starting around the 6th of October (+/- 2/3 days).
I wanted to know if somebody will be there to party together!
I try to rent an apprtement there, but it's not quite easy. Do you have any website site or information about the rents in Mombasa?
Is Nialy a good choice to stay around Mombasa?
Thanks,
Marco
GoodEnough
09-17-07, 05:16
I arrived in Nairobi at about 5:30 this morning and I'm planning my first assault on the clubs this evening. Someone told me that Simmers is good in the afternoon so I may check that out as well. You old hands probably already know this, but the Serena Hotel just ain't all that impressive. It sure isn't worth the New York City prices that it charges.
I'll report back once I've made my first forays to the Clubs Florida.
GE
Marco,
Nyali is not a good choice. It is too far away from the action in Bamburi, Shanzu and the City Centre.
Apratments are easy to find in Mombasa in October. They are difficult to book over the internet, however.
I suggest staying in cheap temporary accommodation for a few days and find something you like later. Will pm you with the number of a reliable travel agent who will arrange everything for you.
Try not to pay more than 30 euro per night. Anything more is just throwing good money away.
Take Care
Denis.
What happened to Efremof? No longer an ISG member, and all of his posts and pics are gone.
It may be to early to speculate but it is smelling similar to another very very popular member a couple of years ago who used to frequent the Morocco board. he had quite a demise. Does anyone remember Mr. Belgul?
Hi
I am in Mombasa and would be happy to meet or help.
Nyali is a nice place. There is hotel called Gloria villa, near Nakumatt in Nyali, it is not bad.
Take careThank you for your help !
Till when are you there and where are you staying ?
We can meet in a good place since you have experienced many now :)
Marco
It may be to early to speculate but it is smelling similar to another very very popular member a couple of years ago who used to frequent the Morocco board. he had quite a demise. Does anyone remember Mr. Belgul?
Yes, I remember Belgul.
The story is similar.
I don't know the cosequences for Efremof.
I read a report from him: he should be in Odessa. Is he a Russian?
I have noticed he has deleted all his reports al least in the Kenyan departement.
I think it was a mistake to appear explicitally in the pictures as he did.
Something is to be a tourist, remaining just for a short while somewhere, different is to be resident.
A hazard was to sell his videos.
Efremof will remain always in my mind for his pictures but also for what he wrote about the African life. He really understood and loved Africa.
Guys
Thanks for the interest for EFREMOF.
I am is still here and just to be correct, I didn't sold any of his photos or videos.
He was apologized directly to the girl by means of SMS and also to other member of this forum.knowing that kenya is safe is critical for me to continue to participate in this forum.
I hope to hear good news regarding my issue.
Max
Glory Vilas is not bad (1500 Ks/day and girl friendly: one night I took 2 girls and no overprice), just behind the Nakumatt Nyali, not far from Tembo and the beach (it's possible to go to the Beach Hotel with a boda boda (taxi-bike) for few Ks; in the hotel there is a nice swimming pool.
In town, near the tursks there is the Windsor apartments (1100 Ks/day with breakfast, girl friendly too, not far from Casablanca); the staff is very friendly.
In the same road of Glory Vilas in Nyali there is a complex of mini appartments for 1500 Ks about. Tabou Funfun, please, can you tell me the name and telephon number? I'm in Italy, I would like to book for the next February but I didn't fint it in internet.
Thanks
What happened to Efremof? No longer an ISG member, and all of his posts and pics are gone.
Maybe he has just another nickname? Or, he is happily married now? :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
It may be to early to speculate but it is smelling similar to another very very popular member a couple of years ago who used to frequent the Morocco board. he had quite a demise. Does anyone remember Mr. Belgul?Well I was planning a short stay in Kenya on the way to South Africa, but I don't know if it's safe to monger in Kenya at the moment.
LustyHombre
09-20-07, 08:56
Well I was planning a short stay in Kenya on the way to South Africa, but I don't know if it's safe to monger in Kenya at the moment.I have been in Mombasa now for almost 3 months and have done all the things a tourist shouldn't do ( walk alone on semi-deserted beaches with your watch and wallet, walk around alone in villages , keep the window rolled down at intersections , spend time at a local guesthouse with a girl - daytime only -) and have never fealt threatened or come to grief in any way . The people here have always been open and friendly and respectful ; seems you get treated exactly like you treat others , like everywhere else I have been in the world ( except in East L.A. and similar places ruled by dope and crime).
Input equals Output.
Tradewinds
09-20-07, 09:33
Well I was planning a short stay in Kenya on the way to South Africa, but I don't know if it's safe to monger in Kenya at the moment.
Becareful my friends be very careful. It seems the world is changing around us, imagine how bad it must be being arrested and spending time in one of the local jails! I think photos of nudity and certainly porn is illeagal in most African countries.
Perhaps Jackson could post a "heads up" on countries that have caused concern to our members.
Member #4364
09-20-07, 18:06
@ Ioneto
Do the Windsor Apartments or the Glory Villas have SAT-TV like CNN or BBC
in the living room ?
Also a montly rate; i stay next year 5 weeks.
Thx very much
@ Ioneto
Do the Windsor Apartments or the Glory Villas have SAT-TV like CNN or BBC
in the living room ?
Also a montly rate; i stay next year 5 weeks.
Thx very much
There is a TV in both places but I didn't stay to much looking at this one, so I can't answer about this question.
For the montly rate I think yes, but I'm not sure.
Sorry
Can anyone comment on pros/cons of staying in Glory Villa/Nyali area versus Fontana Hotel area, thanks.
Price along the north cost of Mombasa are increasing rapidly. Some budget travelers are trying to reduce the accommodation cost to minimum while still located near restaurants and discos.
One obvious place is Mtwapa. From small sleepy village its become a huge monster now. (they have two gym now near Kendas). Foreigners are buying plots and houses like crazy and both plots and contracting materials are extremely expensive now. by African standards.
I have been told that one Foreigner got the electrical company map which document the electrical meters in every house and correlates it into his PDA. using GPS receiver it become very easy to have a complete view of the entire area.
For those wants to be centrally located but pay for a sub 1000 bob, the best accommodation is "Sweet heart lodge" in the north part of Mtwapa just near "Comfort Inn" Lodge. its on a dirt road just opposite the Malindi Matatu station. The best rooms are at second floor from the left side of the compound. The price for a night is 650 Shilling and the room is self contained.
Other option for thus who wants to save is to rent an apartment. Typical cost for two empty bedroom apartment near kendas is 10,000 Shiling a month. Two months deposit should be paid in advanced.
Girls are hot as always some are really a sex bomb tall and slim. for thus who wants to improve there techniques a guide called The Mystery Method can help. It guides you how to pick up women, how to approach a girl, attract girl, meet girls and several successful free seduction tips
Please read the following link http://www.themysterymethod.com/
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Jamis Plumber
09-21-07, 13:29
... is entirely his own business and not ours.
Please post some info on mongering for a change, if you have any.
Spot on Gladiator.
Whether one pays, in cash or otherwise, for the services purportedly offered or not is one's own business. Nobody needs some clever Joe poking a nose. Once out mongering, what happens to whoever is his own business to get out of the situation. Everybody goes into this game aware of all possibilities. You either exploit them or they do, it depends.
Sambo2,
I cannot PM you to ask about safety issues in Kenya after Efremof's hassles (I have a couple of specific questions). If things are a bit touchy in Kenya, I might bypass it. I have PMd you on another site - maybe you're able to reply there.
Guys
Thanks for the interest for EFREMOF.
I am is still here and just to be correct, I didn't sold any of his photos or videos.
He was apologized directly to the girl by means of SMS and also to other member of this forum.knowing that kenya is safe is critical for me to continue to participate in this forum.
I hope to hear good news regarding my issue.
Max
Another great trip! (8th)
The following report is my opinion and experience, follow at your own risk, in the process hope not to bore yourselves and provide some good updated info. I will cover my Nairobi experience and then move on to Bamburi Beach and surrounding North Mombasa in part two.
Landed in Nairobi not feeling too healthy, seems i caught the flu bug, knocking me just a touch, nevertheless this did not prevent a good time being had.
Started out as i said in my mini running report by paying Simmers a call for a bite to eat. Unfortunately there was a dreadful smell of sewer works in the air, and close by. On closer inspection, a loose manhole cover, slap bang in the middle of Simmers restaurant, wonder what first world health inspectors would make of this? The experience was enough to put me off my appetite. Beer lunch was in order.
Casting my keen eyes around i spied a chick to my left, acceptable, i thought being midday, not many chicks about. She soon made eye contact and moved to a better placed shopping window allowing me a good look at the merchandise. A few minutes later, beckoned her over, we got down to some chit-chat and general BS. Soon we haggled over price ST,1500kes i put in the only offer, Josie mocked me, insisting she was worth 3000kes. I told her i knew the market, no sucker here, she dropped to 2500kes, i wished her a good day, best of luck. Hard ball negotiations were in play, stood firm, knowing i was to get my price, she fought hard to win me back with sweet talk, changing the subject. She was a bright girl, degree in business economics, seems she not only sells herself but also pushes clothing on to the vendors of Nairobi`s street markets after having smuggled it from across the Ugandan border.
Full of beer by now we headed to the Terminal hotel - 1600kes double room rate - just five minutes walk away.
Josie scored: 7 for friendship
Looks and body: 5 (little too big for my liking)
Performance: 4 (little lazy)
Damage: 1500kes ST (stand firm guys)
Conclusion: Slow start, i looked forward to the evening.
Dinner at Kengele`s pub & restaurant in Koinange st - nothing to write home about, soup, fish burger and salads, also like my ice cream, chocolate! all for just short of 800kes. Incidentally a beer (tusker, castle, windhoek lager) averages out at 130kes, cheap i say. Observed a number of muzungu`s walking the streets late at night as i do, not the safest thing to do but i believe crime has been brought under control in central Nairobi due to efforts by the town council, most shops have all-night security which adds to one`s feeling of being relatively safe. Several days later at 5am, leaving Florida club, i was to be virtually surrounded in a flash by at least twelve street kids. The girl with me reacted in horror, the kids were chased by security who kindly escorted us to my hotel around the corner, i did not think too much of it. So there you go. I don`t feel there is much of a security issue, Nairobi is no more dangerous than your major cities of the world. Gents do not be put off by negative media reporting, intent on always feeding the viewer with ills of wonderful Africa.
Fairly quiet Monday night at Florida, although met by the usual hardcore, "how you, buy me a drink", brigade. The usual old-timers trying to farm some friend on to you, no doubt for a cut their way. The girls work together. Had the usual chit chat BS of "where you from, whats your name".Usually i small-talk them not making eye contact, they get the drift and buzz off. It also helps to tell them the night is too young, you want to relax before making a move. Gents it is best to pick yourself a honey late into the evening, thus avoiding the alcohol expenses one can go through several thousand shilling in one night alone, they drink like fish as well, and add to that the inevitable friend of hers needing refreshments, i pity the novice to a joint such as Florida, taken to the cleaners. Example: Jane! past her sell by date but smart, constantly walking around with her can of Red Bull - cost 200kes - she bums minimum five a night, say. She sells them downstairs 150kes each, a nice little earner, add to that her cut in farming her friends out. 1000kes a night for doing "Niks" - average monthly income in Kenya, roughly 5000kes. Jane does well, not on me girl. Enough BS.
Scored myself a lovely girl from Bujumbura, Burundi. 20 years my junior, tremendously passionate, drying my lips out french kissing me, told me all her dreams in life, what a sweet girl. Of course all the usual BS of "i want your baby, marry me", effort. J had an insatiable sexual appetite and was to wear me out, although in my defence i still was not 100% fit for action. She hammered me with that hard body until it hurt, she actually chaffed the skin around my pelvic area, soon tired out, did the four finger thrust on her with the "come here", effort inside her. Wow! what a girl.
J scored highly: 9 for friendship
Looks and body: 8 ( deduct 1 for the face & 1 for the butt)
Performance: 10 (full marks)
Damage: 2500kes (the money was a gift, she was embarrassed)
Conclusion: the best fuck i have had in a long time, outstanding! very, very rare!
An interesting point i would like to make here: i did not have to negotiate price at Florida or Florida 2000, the honnies will happily accept (2000 - 2500kes). Whereas, Simmers and Annie Oakley (1500 - 2000kes) i had to negotiate hard in advance. Strange but true! Also, some of your taxi drivers will not know of Annie Oakleys(behind hotel Salamu, Heron court) cost of taxi return from central Nairobi, 1000kes roughly.
Tuesday was not very spectacular in the wake of the previous evening i suppose. At Annie Oakley`s, had an early dinner, Spaghetti Bolognese (600kes) comes recommended. Negotiated a blowie and massage, average sex. Hard effort, was the negotiating beforehand, Anne was intent on massaging my wallet. Got my way .....again! Damage 1500kes. Then on to Florida where i had arranged to meet J at her request, i was not too keen on doing the same chick for two nights running, even after the previous evenings experience - butterfly i am - she failed to pitch, i was somewhat relieved, could easily fall in love with this chick, this i do not need.
Enter, "watermellons", as they call her. Yes! huge tits she has, adding to this she is short in height 5ft 3" roughly, our Jackline. I`m consistently going with the small tit brigade, so when Jackline happened by, that was me done. Had actually wanted to fuck her some 18 months back, now i finally had her. Jackline worked very hard at pleasing me, got her to do "walkabout", massage on my back and legs while leaning against the wall for balance. Overall she was great fun even for a chick in her early thirties. In the morning whilst getting dressed she struck a pose as i lay on the bed watching her, had been inactive with the camera during the entire trip, Jackline however initiated some camera work, out of her own free will, seems guys had shot some photos of her in the past, she was keen to pose, even asking me where the camera was, not before she insisted i send her the resulting photos which i have done, she requested i not sell the photos to "big boobs" or show anyone else, perhaps she wants to do so herself. Anyway i cannot keep all the promises, below are some photos of our sporty Jackline. My camera work does her no justice, i`m fucking useless at it, seems i don`t have the flair, we have to get some more practice i suppose.
Jackline scored well: 8 for friendship
Looks and body: 6 ( boobs assisted her in the scoring stakes)
Performance: 7 (bit mean of me)
Damage: 2500kes (she deserved all of it, worked tirelessly)
Conclusion: great fun to be with and play with those tits
Wednesday went walkabout, bought some Cialis 20mg, without prescription, 1700kes for two tablets, not bad, they somewhat surprisingly do not have 10mg on offer in Kenya according to the pharmacist. It is reggae night at Florida, you should avoid this as it is bedlam, the place heaves with all the rastas. Early on a Wednesday evening beginning at 9pm is "Rock night" up at Carnivore restaurant & entertainment center, comes highly recomended. I spent both my Wednesday evenings at Carnivore and thoroughly enjoyed myself, met Leyla there, lovely body and very cute, light skinned, thought i was going to do my first Muslim chick, but Leyla got too drunk, started knocking about, two and fro, so i dumped her and headed to Florida 2000. This disco also known as Florida 2, is not mentioned often enough on the forum, somewhat surprising, a huge well laid out club. As you enter up the stairs, just to your right is where the scantily clad lovelies strut their stuff, heading left takes you to the large disco lounge area. Met a Kamba chick who remarked that i looked as if i was in the supermarket, shopping for chicks, the competition is tough mates. Earlier on she had spent a bit of time with me, but i wanted to look at the market and plus remember: Do not score too early. I settled for miss Kamba later, wasn`t she happy.
Miss Kamba scored: 8 for friendship (lots of humour)
Looks and body: 6 (beautiful smile but the body a bit on the lean side)
Performance: 6
Damage: 2000kes
Conclusion: fun girl, nothing really special, i had been spoilt up to now i should imagine.
Thursday, much of the same though a bit of rest, still not feeling 100% but happily "ball drained". For breakfast, next to the Terminal hotel is the Dove Cage restaurant. Recommended, you get yourself the number 4 (sausage, bacon, egg, two toast and a pot of tea) 210kes. Went to enquire about train info to Mombasa, only does the run on Tuesday and Wednesday, i had to fly which i hate. Ate at Tratoria restaurant, good food, somewhat pricey(1300kes) just around the corner from Simmers. I`m sure some of you regulars to Kenya will agree, the food standard is below par and disappointing especially if you enjoy your greens, such as myself, but we get by. So do not expect anything spectacular in the food department, unless you are staying at some five star hotel. I don`t simply because i pay my own expenses. Also checked out the 680 hotel, don`t know why, place is to be avoided.
Try to avoid taxi travel until at least 8pm, Nairobi traffic is notorious. On my return from Mombasa, to get from the airport to central Nairobi took 75min, normally a journey of 20min.
Check out club Horseman, Ngon rd, Karan. Apparently a fair number of muzungu go there.
Some of you guys like your fair skinned Ethiopian/Eritrean chicks, say 6ft tall, beautiful, the mirror kept looking at her. She was on my short list of maybe`s. PM myself for the contact details (only to regular contributors on the forum, sorry guys)
Fucking long report, took me long enough writing and editing, hope i haven`t forgotten anything. Nairobi is a fun town, do not be in such a rush to get to Mombasa.
Trick Williams
09-22-07, 13:27
Good stuff Noddy, I brightened one of your pics.
Yes, I remember Belgul.
The story is similar.Belgian weekly "Knack" published a good background article called "Philippe Servaty´s victims" (in Dutch). If there is interest here, I can do a quick translation.
I never seek to judge anyone on this site. We all know where we are. But I believe that with Efremof, as with Belguel, the key is: discretion.
Ghost Daddy
09-22-07, 21:13
I have primarily been a voyeur on these boards for a few years. I was in Kenya back in March and tried Florida 2000, AKA F2 for a couple of nights. It is just like any major club-girl stable, with its range of tired old broads and fresh faces. Easy to pick someone up, but wisest to do a little conversation in the club first to get a feel for the attitude. Prices are as reported about 1000 times on this forum, but it's not really about "price" per se, unless you get a real pro, which is a foolish way to go in F2.
Anyway, I'll be back for a week in Oct. I do prefer the rougher sorts of places, like cheap hotels or compounds where the cheaper girls stay. Straight up brothels, etc. Does anyone know of these kinds of places in Nairobi?
LustyHombre
09-23-07, 07:38
Good stuff Noddy, I brightened one of your pics.Scary stuff, at least for me.
But then again, if it floats your boat.
LustyHombre
09-23-07, 07:49
Jackson,
I am not really interested in Nairobi reports bcs I try not to go there ( and if I have to, I fly back the same night ) and similarly, I am sure many of the upcountry folks aren't concerned with what goes on down here at the Coast .
The Kenya thread has become unwieldy with now more than 2000 posts and I would hope a split-up makes sense to you and most of the users .
GoodEnough
09-23-07, 16:33
I was in Kenya for three nights last week prior to coming here to the back of beyond that is Juba, Sudan. I’ve held off reporting on the trip because I’m not sure there’s anything much I can add to the excellent advice that’s been posted here several times over.
I stayed at the Serena Hotel and received, what I was told by the hotel, the lowest possible rate. At $160, it was not worth the price. At the rack rate of $250, it would have been ridiculous. The room was well-furnished, extremely clean and well maintained, but if I were paying, rather than my company, I would never stay there. The hotel was fully booked throughout my stay, mostly by large parties of Brits and Americans wanting to see the “real” Africa from the back of an air conditioned bus. Perhaps I’m being unkind, but that’s how it appeared to me. Most of these folks were traveling in large groups and adhered to a strict schedule of when to be in the lobby; when to eat; when to get on and off the bus and when to shop. I suspect their only contact with actual Africans was talking to the bus drivers, the hotel staff and the shop assistants. Oh well, Chaq’un à son goût. The food at the hotel was expensive, but very good. Again, if I had to pay it out of my own pocket, I never would have eaten there.
My first night was spent at Madhouse/Florida and, as oft reported here, it was fun, easy, and cost about Ksh2,000. The girl was (according to her) a recent college graduate, well-spoken, very pretty and very wild. All in all a pleasurable experience. During the afternoon, I stopped by Simmers just to check the place out. I immediately met a blonde-coiffed, pretty attractive 22 year old, but I was tired and not that interested, so just took her cell phone number, which I never used.
Later that afternoon, I went for a walk, and saw a gorgeous young woman talking to her friend. I started chatting to her and we exchanged phone numbers and texted back and forth for two days.
The second night I started at Florida 2000 but did not have a very good time. Perhaps I hit it on an off night, but there were very few people in a cavernous place, and it wasn’t much fun. At midnight, I made a beeline for Madhouse which was, much as the night before, jumping. I went down to the second floor to have a cigarette and contemplate the meaning of life and within two minutes a very pretty Somali girl came to the table and addressed me by name. Having been in town a total of one day I was startled, and then she told me that we had been together for a week or so in Addis Ababa seven years ago when she was but eighteen years old. She was right, and I did remember. What I could not believe was that after all that time, she remembered my name.
The third evening I got a text from Lisa, the lady whom I had met on the street, asking if we could go out. She’s 21, a recent college graduate, definitely not in the game. She wanted to go to Carnivore, and so we did. I had a great time. The prix fixe menu for all the meat you can eat is Ksh1,900 and we had a good bottle of wine as well. The total tab was $109, but I didn’t mind at all. I had a great time there and I would recommend the place to anyone. There was a disco at the place as well and dozens of available women. I’m not sure if I’ve read about this disco in this forum before, but this place is definitely worth checking out. You do not have to eat at the restaurant to go to the disco.
That night was one of the more memorable experiences of my life. Turns out this girl had been with the same guy for five years and had only broken up with him a few months before. She said she had not had sex for seven months and, from the enthusiasm and tirelessness, I believe her. She never asked for anything other than the meal, though I gave her taxi fare to get home right before I left to go to the airport.
All in all, a great, fun packed three days, the memories of which help sustain me here in this hole which is Juba, Sudan.
GE
GoodEnough,
Thanks for that report. If your company is going to pay for your hotel, then I would highly recommend Fairview. It's about USD 150 for the 'Basic' double room (too much for me but OK for business expense) but I like the layout and vibe there much better than any of the so-called 5-star hotels. It's very close to town but you feel like you're in the Ngong Hills or Karen.
Don't book a Single (unless you plan to stay alone during your visit) because the beds seem narrower even than the twin beds in other hotels.
Also, if I'm remembering correctly, if you take a room in the rear of the complex where the pool is, behind the original building, you can avoid reception when returning with your conquests. No extra person charge, and since you drive into the complex there's no bribes to security. Thus Fairview becomes a GF hotel.
Can anyone confirm that Fairview is still laid out this way?
This is the best spin on the whole mess. Apples and oranges -- Max may have made some errors in judgement, but Servaty made his own very bad karma and should pay for it with his hide.
With all due respect, Efremof is not nearly guilty of he same sins as Philippe Servaty. Its absurd to compare the two men!
Kenya is not a radical Muslim state, and the girls are not likely to be committing suicide because Efremof posted their photos on the internet. Their families are not likely to arrange a fatw? to kill him. As far as we know, he did not indiscriminately offer his ladies marriage just to get them to pose while they had sex together. And, I am quite certain he never ever said or did anything degrading to his ladies, as it was obvious he adored them. No pissing on them, no making fun of them, no whips and leashes, etc.
Indeed, I am certain that I am not alone in thinking that Efremof was truly in love with one of his last girls. I worried that this was going to cause him serious pain. When he announced plans to move to Kenya and open up a hotel, I was happy for him. His last girl was seriously gorgeous, and any of us might have fallen for her! And, as a “non-pro specialist”, I am certain he spent many times more money on his non pro girlfriends than the 2000 most guys spend on Kenyan pros they meet in Nairobi ( ALL of my non-pros are more expensive than the hookers).
Servaty was just interested in fucking and pissing on girls. He didn't care if they were young and pretty or old and spent. He got pleasure out of degrading them while he had sex, and was especially amused if they were wearing religious items. Unfortunately, the girls were not really part of the bondage crowd, but were straight girls who were looking for love and marriage. Their public exposure was certain to bring them additional shame and humiliation, and he knew this because he lived in Morocco! That is why he is an exploitative pig.
Efremof was by far the most interesting guy on the Kenyan ISG. I think this entire "scandal" is very different from the Servaty scandal and comparisons make me wince. Efremof was an honest mongerer who thought it reasonable to carry out his relationships with his girls like a lover, and not like a guy who had picked up a prostitute. It seemed to me that he was trying to live a fantasy in Kenya.
I am sorry Efremof was chased away from the board. His contributions were beautiful. I think those responsible for this debacle should apologize to all of us. This entire incident could have been handled quietly, and Efremof could have made whatever amends were necessary to the girls privately (assuming the girls wanted such an apologia).
Mombasa: Bamburi Beach action
The second part of my report. I did not partake in any mongering activity due to my current situation in Mombasa, had to be a good boy. The following report are my observations, having said that i have mongered considerably in the past, albeit in the clubs. I will not cover the nightclub scene as this is old hat on the forum, one needs to RTFF, in order to suss out the club scene. You daytime mongers will pay attention to what i have to report as this impacts your modus operandi.
The specific area we are dealing with is Bamburi Beach - 15 min north of Mombasa - and surrounds, Big Tree restaurant, Cheers restaurant, all within a twenty minute walking distance from Bamburi Beach resort where i stayed on this trip. My opinion is. This is "the spot" to stay for day time mongering, no need for matatu and such, you are right in the heart of the beach action. The girls - the "malaya" as the locals refer to them - work the entire stretch of Bamburi beach and can be seen on the banking, generally bowling about, they will approach you really, friendly like, while out taking a stroll any time of the day.
Whilst having my sun-downers, which went well into the evening, i had ample opportunity to view the chicks to and fro. Even just sitting there when my lady was not around i was approached numerous times by the lovely chickies, briefly just chatting to them. Very cute and lovable they are, however i observed very quickly the pimp/boyfriends trying to be as discreet as possible, some also approached myself, enquiring weather i was in the need of some female company. From my vantage point - the perfect spot, see pic below - on the resort veranda there was no hiding for them. A point to consider when being accosted by the chicks is, their pimp/boyfriend are close by, closer than you think. In fact i had a chick talk to me, two metres to my right was the veranda edge, every now and then, out of the corner of my eye i would witness a head pop up, he could hear every spoken word between cutey and myself. I am quite confidant i could have been rendered service for several hundred shilling, of this i`m sure, i do not know the going rates on the beach. I asked the rate, all the cutey said was, "anything"!
As i mentioned Big Tree restaurant is a twenty minute walk south, along the beach, i had a lovely dinner here, for those lacking in sustenance i recommend vegetable soup starter, followed by main course of vegetables and prawns with rice, yummy! Walking five/ten minutes inland from big tree you will arrive at Bora-Bora restaurant, just to the front of this is Cheers restaurant. At Cheers after dinner you can partake in some Poole play with the lovely chickies on site, take care some may whip your ass. This is a nice spot to spend your evening prior to moving on to the clubs or just to knock about. A suggestion: take mosquito repellent, they are hell even against the wind, they breed them strong in Mombasa. Also, do not walk the main Mtwapa - Mombasa road after dark.
Someone has recent news how's the mongering situation there now? Read about new discos and pubs and better nightlife.
I'll be in mombasa area in November and would like to have a change from Nyali-bamburi and check there and maybe even more south (Shimoni)
Or maybe is better north than Shanzu (Kilifi, Watamu)?
Thanks for any advice.
LustyHombre
09-28-07, 08:43
I have no moral authority to judge people neither am I a crusader. I find it quite interesting that bare-back exists in mongering, and is real! ...... Not trying to be wise or am I.Yes, I think you are.
Whether you or the community at large disapproves of it or not , it happens all the time, everywhere.
Know your own level of risk tolerance and act accordingly , but pls don't try to preach to others.
Hi all,
Forget about Big Tree. Specialy in the evening.
Many of my freinds where sheeting by the girls. Worked together with the police opposite of chears. Making money in different ways. Even daytime.
"He paid me less". After 2 hours by the police you have to pai 5000,.
Police is standing around the courne.
"This is a prostitute". "How can we go out of this situtation? "
Just pay a amount of 5000,.
This happened many many times this year.
Avoit big tree area. The Bamburi Tourist Police are one of the corrupt police in Kenia I heard.
Go to Tembo and Kasauira etc.
Take care
gentlemen,
just back from kenya. been living on a farm near majengo kanamai just north of mtwapa since may with some good chonyi friends. nothing like fresh palm wine and the cute country girls. i'm a bit shocked and humored to read some of the debates. people are bored or this board. i don't have the patience to follow whatever this controversy is that i've seen tid-bits about.
max, sorry we never met up. i was working and writing a book in my downtime, so i didn't go out much. i did, however, pass you on the beach one day between pirates and big tree (i know what you look like from your pictures). i would have stopped you but i was a bit wasted, baking in the sun, and i thought it might have been a bit strange. after living up near mtwapa for the last four months, though, i've got some comments: the place has changed. for the worse, i'm afraid.
kenya's becoming ridiculously expensive. this past june's budget stuck huge taxes on bottled water and alcohol. further, kenya's got the highest vat in africa, (16%), and nothing seems to go back to infrastructure. luckily it's an election year, so some politicians are throwing out carrots, like the refurbished road from mtwapa to kilifi. but geez. the prices of basic food and accommodation are outrageous. live with kenyan friends or be ready to pay.
it's also directly related to the number of whites who have moved there. it's been well covered in the real estate sections of the papers. the prices on the coast are through the roof as a direct result of the "pensioners" and other ex-pats who have decided to make the coast their home. this is so funny since from 1997-2003, when tourism had crashed, prices had been extremely low. that was the time. now, i'm afraid, the market is all f'd up. i would warn against any investment at this time. prices of plots, house, and building materials are through the roof. the bubble could burst soon, like it did in the us over the last few months. lots of dutch, british, and german contractors have taken over the building businesses and charge outrageous prices for exploiting local labor. the profits go toward their huge houses with electric fences, multiple suvs, swimming pools, and wives.
simply the number of new clubs being built in mtwapa is ridiculous. again, the bubble will burst. the new one next to caltex is supposed to have an underground dance floor. it's a stone's throw from mtwapa elite academy. what, are they trying to recruit kids straight from elementary school to work there? then the new one across the street out in that field. the rumor is it's just weeks before that gets held up by gangsters. they didn't even build a wall for security. the new club in from the saga matatu stage in shanzu is another. the almost finished, then just stopped, apparently realizing there were just too many clubs. even the old toyz nightclub in downtown mombasa near the posta is being replaced with a new club. i will give that a few months before it gets shut down by muslim groups in old town. that's what happened to toyz.
with that said, the funny thing on the lips of the people of mtwapa themselves is precisely that the market is d-you-and done. i can't tell you how many people told me all the attractive girls are gone. they're all in europe, married. or living as the wives of rich ex-pats. that's the final goal of all these people. particularly, to get the f out of kenya. especially now since it's so damn expensive. but honestly, all the gorgeous girls, most of them at least, they're gone. too many customers, and lots of permanent ex-pats who are marrying them and making them permanent girlfriends. (i actually think that's a good thing socially, just bad for mongering, if that's what you are going for. not what i go for, but hey, figured i'd give y'all a heads up)
the police are becoming worse and worse. if kibaki loses the 07 election there'll be a huge police shake-down, so they're cutting their losses and making as much as they can before being potentially fired/transferred. mtwapa is a holiday placement for a kenyan cop. they have a huge concentration of regular police and tourist police (two separate branches) and to add to a point that was slightly raised before. it is absolutely, 100% illegal to make, distribute, or sell pornography of any type, including pictures and paintings, in kenya. i know even kenyans who have been busted for this and i have this from a lawyer currently involved in just such a case. it's often a charge used to get a search warrant for a walled-house. they rarely prosecute, however, unless you have money to cough up in the end. usually to lawyers, cops, and magistrates. small bribes will work. i had warned max about this and you should all be aware if you're stopped and searched and found with pornography you could have your camera/laptop confirep001ed and expected to pay a bribe to get around a cell and court date. these cases happen frequently if you check with the police and they are sometimes in the papers.
and that's not a joke. anyone saying otherwise is naive and foolish. this is nothing new. again, go the nation website and use their search engine to find articles. dzoro, the minister of tourism, has made kicking out mongers and pensioners who over-stay their visas a major campaign of his. the tourist police in particular (and i have this from officers themselves) have made eradicating kenya of pornography (particularly that made in kenya with kenyan girls) a major goal. i, honestly, wouldn't be surprised if there are people working for them reading this site regularly. my point: don't listen to anyone who rants about how much they know about kenya and be careful. listen to me if you want, i could care less if you rip me apart and say i'm lying.
last note: as a long-term, fluent swahili speaker i rather fearlessly move around the coast rarely interacting with whites and not really worrying about much because i can talk my way out of almost anything as long as i don't break the law. however, i could probably count the number of whites who known swahili on my left hand. that's fairly absurd. kenyans know it. it's created a culture where people just talk openly bad about whites to their faces in a language they know they'll never know. i've overheard genuine contempt for "mongerers" and white ex-pats in general, mainly with the charge that they are wrecking the market and just don't care about the people. there's significant acceptance that kenya's being re-colonized by the old and ignorant. lots of folks are now referred to as "wazungu wa ukoloni, " colonial whites, even if they're recent arrivals. so my tip: if you care, take some swahili classes. very easy language. nothing. nothing at all, will improve your trip more and gain you the basic respect you won't have.
hope that was helpful. any specific questions, feel free to ask or pm.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Okay, I'm only adding this because I haven't been attacked yet for my previous post and because I was amused after skimming through the past 4 months' posts and seeing the discussion about Swahili words and the term "mzungu. " I appreciate this, and I'm excited people are interested in the language.
So just adding my 10 cents.
The basics: Most people and living animals in Swahili begin with an m- and in the plural have a wa-. They do not, however, begin with a mu-. That's bad grammar. Lots of upcountry Kenyans speak that way, though. They say musichana, muingereza, muzungu, muafrika, etc. That's bad grammar and gets chuckles out of Kenyans. It's msichana, mzungu, mwingereza, mwafrika, etc. Just a note. Not to be pretentious, I'm just trying to be helpful. Some nouns for living people, animals, don't follow this pattern and are pluralized with a ma-, such as madereva, makarau, majunguu, etc. But that's mainly with sheng and more grammar than worth going into here.
Back to mzungu. Always makes me chuckle when people try to figure it out. Okay. And this is official. The term comes from the verb ku-zunguka. That's the Swahili verb for "to go around" or "to wander. " If you look at 15th century writing about Kenya's coast by the Portuguese, you will find that the people of the immediate coastal hinterland, the contemporary Mijikenda (or Midzi Chenda in their languages. Yes, NINE CITIES is what it means. Kauma, Chonyi, Jibana, Ribe, Kambe, Rabai, Giriama, Digo, Duruma) were referred to by the Swahili in their own language as the "Mozungulo. " At the time, the Swahili language was different and had not undergone many of the changes that would come with Arab (Omani) colonization through the 19th century. But Mozungulo comes from the same root, ironically, as wazungu. Kuzunguka, to go around. They had been dispersed (along with the Swahili themselves) by the southerly expansion of the Gabbra (Orma) from the north (warlike pastoralists related to the Somali), and before settling in the Kayas (fortified hilltop settlements) appeared to be "going around, " or "wandering" through the interior.
Mzungu originally simply meant "wanderers, " or people who "go around. " It fit the description of colonial whites perfectly. The whites, I should note, did everything to counter this since they wanted to become permanent. Hence the ever-lasting tension at the root of the word. However, I must note, that during colonial times "whites" as we feel so natural calling them, were not called "white" in Kenya. In fact, they were called "watu wekundu, " or "red people. " Of course, stick a Northern European in Kenya and sure enough, kumbe they turn red! Whites were never called whites, they were called "reds" (and I don't mean communists, Sam).
However, mzungu/wazungu has come to mean "white person" today, as we would say it in English. However, I have frequently heard Asians and African Americans called "wazungu, " since it is not, in fact, a racial term based on skin color. In Kenya, racial understandings surely exist, but not as strictly as they do in Europe or in the US, and they are not always based on skin color. The absurdity of judging by skin color we own to the founding fathers (slave owners) of the US. Rather, when an African American or Japanese tourist arrives and Kenyans realize they do not know Swahili or any African language, they become wazungu. This is not uncommon terminology and is used quite frequently, and yes, with some humor involved. Wazungu in general are frequently the laughing stock of Kenyans who see them as being such quirky, odd folks (which they are, of course). Many African Americans I know have been real pissed off by being called "mzungu, " but have later accepted that until you learn Swahili or start to live like an African, you can't break that linguistic barrier. It later becomes an empowering reality. FURTHER, white Kenyans and whites who learn Swahili are frequently described as "Eh, huyu si mzungu, " no longer wazungu. In other words, it is entirely linguistically possible, and it happens quite frequently, for "whites" as Western typology puts them, to cease to be wazungu for acculturating.
The problem with understanding the meaning comes from the fact that in the West people see everything by race and skin color. Religion, custom and language play a much larger part in social categorization in Kenya. Just look, for example, at the fact that the Mijikenda of the 15th century and white tourists of today have both been called by roughly the same term. Since both were seen by the Swahili roughly similarly as barbarians and inferior foreigners who are just wandering about.
Note: the Swahili people themselves, a small minority on the coast, are no longer the primary speakers of their own language since it's become the national languages of the East African countries. Further, the root of the noun can always have a ki- put at the beginning to make their language. So kiswahili is the language of the waswahili. And kizungu is therefore, linguistically at least, the language of the wazungu. The problem is, of course, that there are many versions of kizungu, and usually it just means kiingereza, English. But German, Dutch, Italian, are also kizungu since the speakers are wazungu. You can also take the root, at a you- at the beginning and put a.ni at the end to have the place of the people in question. The waswahili, they live in wswahilini, the place of the Swahili. Take the wakamba, they come from ukambani. Or the wakikuyu come from ukikuyuni, the wajaluo from ujaluoni (the latter a bit of a joke since calling them wajaluo is derogative, but you hear it regularly). So the wazungu, they linguistically come from uzunguni, a place regularly referred to by Kenyans. The place of the wazungu. As if it were a single place, that simply. And as though non-wazungu don't also live there.
Isn't language fun?
LustyHombre
09-28-07, 15:58
Just noticed earlier today.
Thank you Jackson!
Uh. A couple things I wrote appeared posted differently from how I wrote them. Made for little typos, so excuse those.
But I just proof read after posting and found that the place of the Swahili wasn't written correctly. It's add a you- before the root, so it becomes uswahilini. I don't know why it changed when posted.
And my mistake, I wrote Gabbra, it's supposed to be Galla. The Gabbra are up near Lake Turkana. My bad, should have proof read.
Did it again. Forum problem. It is the letter "u" before the hyphen. But it posts as you- Odd.
23H45 I walk with girl hand to hand. In one time 4 police with gun to my coming out of tuk-tuk. Asking about pasport, afcours not. One police man told my that for mzungu is not possibel coming out of hotel after 11pm. Lot of bulschit during 20 minutes. Next day I raporting this in police office. Try to intentification this police mans. This type of storys coming more end more.
Ask to go with this guys to police office. The boss of police smile not with this thinks.
Carl Schmitt
09-28-07, 21:37
Okay, I'm only adding this because I haven't been attacked yet for my previous post and because I was amused after skimming through the past 4 months' posts and seeing the discussion about Swahili words and the term "mzungu. " I appreciate this, and I'm excited people are interested in the language.
So just adding my 10 cents.
The basics: Most people and living animals in Swahili begin with an m- and in the plural have a wa-. They do not, however, begin with a mu-. That's bad grammar. Lots of upcountry Kenyans speak that way, though. They say musichana, muingereza, muzungu, muafrika, etc. That's bad grammar and gets chuckles out of Kenyans. It's msichana, mzungu, mwingereza, mwafrika, etc. Just a note. Not to be pretentious, I'm just trying to be helpful. Some nouns for living people, animals, don't follow this pattern and are pluralized with a ma-, such as madereva, makarau, majunguu, etc. But that's mainly with sheng and more grammar than worth going into here.
Back to mzungu. Always makes me chuckle when people try to figure it out. Okay. And this is official. The term comes from the verb ku-zunguka. That's the Swahili verb for "to go around" or "to wander. " If you look at 15th century writing about Kenya's coast by the Portuguese, you will find that the people of the immediate coastal hinterland, the contemporary Mijikenda (or Midzi Chenda in their languages. Yes, NINE CITIES is what it means. Kauma, Chonyi, Jibana, Ribe, Kambe, Rabai, Giriama, Digo, Duruma) were referred to by the Swahili in their own language as the "Mozungulo. " At the time, the Swahili language was different and had not undergone many of the changes that would come with Arab (Omani) colonization through the 19th century. But Mozungulo comes from the same root, ironically, as wazungu. Kuzunguka, to go around. They had been dispersed (along with the Swahili themselves) by the southerly expansion of the Gabbra (Orma) from the north (warlike pastoralists related to the Somali), and before settling in the Kayas (fortified hilltop settlements) appeared to be "going around, " or "wandering" through the interior.
Mzungu originally simply meant "wanderers, " or people who "go around. " It fit the description of colonial whites perfectly. The whites, I should note, did everything to counter this since they wanted to become permanent. Hence the ever-lasting tension at the root of the word. However, I must note, that during colonial times "whites" as we feel so natural calling them, were not called "white" in Kenya. In fact, they were called "watu wekundu, " or "red people. " Of course, stick a Northern European in Kenya and sure enough, kumbe they turn red! Whites were never called whites, they were called "reds" (and I don't mean communists, Sam).
However, mzungu/wazungu has come to mean "white person" today, as we would say it in English. However, I have frequently heard Asians and African Americans called "wazungu, " since it is not, in fact, a racial term based on skin color. In Kenya, racial understandings surely exist, but not as strictly as they do in Europe or in the US, and they are not always based on skin color. The absurdity of judging by skin color we own to the founding fathers (slave owners) of the US. Rather, when an African American or Japanese tourist arrives and Kenyans realize they do not know Swahili or any African language, they become wazungu. This is not uncommon terminology and is used quite frequently, and yes, with some humor involved. Wazungu in general are frequently the laughing stock of Kenyans who see them as being such quirky, odd folks (which they are, of course). Many African Americans I know have been real pissed off by being called "mzungu, " but have later accepted that until you learn Swahili or start to live like an African, you can't break that linguistic barrier. It later becomes an empowering reality. FURTHER, white Kenyans and whites who learn Swahili are frequently described as "Eh, huyu si mzungu, " no longer wazungu. In other words, it is entirely linguistically possible, and it happens quite frequently, for "whites" as Western typology puts them, to cease to be wazungu for acculturating.
The problem with understanding the meaning comes from the fact that in the West people see everything by race and skin color. Religion, custom and language play a much larger part in social categorization in Kenya. Just look, for example, at the fact that the Mijikenda of the 15th century and white tourists of today have both been called by roughly the same term. Since both were seen by the Swahili roughly similarly as barbarians and inferior foreigners who are just wandering about.
Note: the Swahili people themselves, a small minority on the coast, are no longer the primary speakers of their own language since it's become the national languages of the East African countries. Further, the root of the noun can always have a ki- put at the beginning to make their language. So kiswahili is the language of the waswahili. And kizungu is therefore, linguistically at least, the language of the wazungu. The problem is, of course, that there are many versions of kizungu, and usually it just means kiingereza, English. But German, Dutch, Italian, are also kizungu since the speakers are wazungu. You can also take the root, at a you- at the beginning and put a.ni at the end to have the place of the people in question. The waswahili, they live in wswahilini, the place of the Swahili. Take the wakamba, they come from ukambani. Or the wakikuyu come from ukikuyuni, the wajaluo from ujaluoni (the latter a bit of a joke since calling them wajaluo is derogative, but you hear it regularly). So the wazungu, they linguistically come from uzunguni, a place regularly referred to by Kenyans. The place of the wazungu. As if it were a single place, that simply. And as though non-wazungu don't also live there.
Isn't language fun?Hi!
I'm just adding my fifty cent!
Mzungu word can come from "kuzunguka" ie "to turn around" that is correct. But, in fact, this is only a popular etymology.
It can also could come from "mizungu" ie "tricks" what the colonial masters were liking the most in their explanations.
Or, what is more probable, and is a scoop, the arabic word "zunduq", ie "uncirconcised people".
So, wazungu, uncirconsied people, take care of yourselves and wear cd's!
Cheers.
Just back from Kenya. Been living on a farm near Majengo Kanamai just north of Mtwapa since May with some good Chonyi friends. Nothing like fresh palm wine and the cute country girls.
There used to be a decent youth hostel on the beach at a place called Kanamai, 16 km up from Mombasa. Is it still there? Is the area now developed? Long time no visit.
Proliberalist
09-29-07, 10:06
With all due respect, Efremof is not nearly guilty of he same sins as Philippe Servaty. Its absurd to compare the two men!
Indeed, I am certain that I am not alone in thinking that Efremof was truly in love with one of his last girls. I worried that this was going to cause him serious pain. When he announced plans to move to Kenya and open up a hotel, I was happy for him. His last girl was seriously gorgeous, and any of us might have fallen for her! And, as a “non-pro specialist”, I am certain he
spent many times more money on his non pro girlfriends than the 2000 most guys spend on Kenyan pros they meet in Nairobi ( ALL of my non-pros are more expensive than the hookers).
Servaty was just interested in fucking and pissing on girls. He didn't care if they were young and pretty or old and spent. He got pleasure out of degrading them while he had sex, and was especially amused if they were wearing religious items. Unfortunately, the girls were not really part of the bondage crowd, but were straight girls who were looking for love and marriage. Their public exposure was certain to bring them additional shame and humiliation, and he knew this because he lived in Morocco! That is why he is an exploitative pig.
Efremof was by far the most interesting guy on the Kenyan ISG. I think this entire "scandal" is very different from the Servaty scandal and comparisons make me wince. Efremof was an honest mongerer who thought it reasonable to carry out his relationships with his girls like a lover, and not like a guy who had picked up a prostitute. It seemed to me that he was trying to live a fantasy in Kenya.
I am sorry Efremof was chased away from the board. His contributions were beautiful. I think those responsible for this debacle should apologize to all of us. This entire incident could have been handled quietly, and Efremof could have made whatever amends were necessary to the girls privately (assuming the girls wanted such an apologia).Forest, I agree 100% with you. Servaty was a kind of guy who seemed to despise the girls, constantly puting them down and degrading them. Efremof was having fun. In his video I've seen Efremof was showing some kindness and warmth to his girl.
LustyHombre
09-30-07, 08:49
Kichuna,
Thank you for the excellent and insightful background reports!
I tried to link them to the RoD's but got stumped twice.
Maybe somebody technically more adept could help?
Always nice to meet somebody with deep reaching social awareness displaying cultural sensitivity and curiosity. That beats a bunch of dirty pictures anytime, at least in my books (don't get me wrong: I like the pics too! ).
Btw: we now have a Mombasa thread, as well as one for Nairobi. Hope to see these used whenever appropriate rather than the "General Info" section.
GoodEnough
10-05-07, 16:27
I'll be getting out of Juba on the 17th and will be in Nairobi till the morning of the 20th. If you're there at that time and want to get together just send me a PM.
GE
Greetings everyone,
In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Musomba2006 his own thread titled "Musomba2006 in Kenya".
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2687
Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.
Thanks,
Jackson
Admin/Jackson,
I'ld like to request that my report
Nairobi Hotels (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=636326#post636326) be moved to the Nairobi thread.
It's very specific about Nairobi, and is buried too deep into the General thread
Thanks
===========================================
Greetings Rwenotmen,
Just copy and re-post it where ever you think it would best serve the Forum Membership.
Thanks,
Jackson
So if I understand correctly from the posts here, they have gotten rid of the girls that made themselves available for the white men and have started a scare campaign against tourists that wants some kenyan booty.
I was staying in windsor appartment. During night from 6pm to 8 am. Sicurity mans. This mans stay in this place 7 days/weeck. Salery 4500s in one month. I write this only for info that you now the valeu or banknote from 1000s. This if you are bizzy to pay one girl for nightservis. Try to andestand Plaese stay not in this hotel. I was checking out with toeristpolice. Manager make evryminut more trubbels for my. In the end she refuus to gif braekfust. One bridge to far.
After reading so many great trip reports and looking at so many hot pictures on the Kenya forum I will be booking my flight this week for mid April to Mombasa and just wanted to ask a few question.
1. Would anyone ever recommend the Sai Rock apartments is it close to the action guest friendly and safe.
2. Have read many report's on prices such accommodation Ladies and beer but what are the general prices on spirits/wines and food also I have a budget of £3500 for 19 days and iam a heavy drinker do you think this will cover me.
3. I just bought myself a sony 8.1 megapixel cybershot camera and wanted to post alot of photo's on this forum but read that pornography is illegal how dose other bm work around this problem.
4. How dose the smoking ban affect tourists are there smoking areas in bars restaurants beaches and airports.
Thx for taking the time to read my post and if any bm are traveling in April and want to meet up for some drinks and a laugh pm me.
TravelRough
11-08-07, 08:49
Wolfy81:
1. Sai Rock is very nice and very quiet. I was paying about US$80/night for a single. They will not hassle you about guests but you will have to pay extra at the desk. If you're planning to have a guest every night, get a double room. There's nothing going on at the hotel, but you can walk next door to Big Tree or Cheers for action and cheaper drinks.
2. £3500 for 19 days should be okay. Beer is cheap but liquor at bars and clubs is expensive.
3. If I'm not mistaken the sony cybershot has a bit of internal memory. Take a few photos around town and keep them on the internal memory for show. Put your 'personal' photos on a removable memory chip and remove the chip when you go through customs.
4. I found the smoking ban is pretty casual in Mombasa. Just don't smoke in the street, it would give an excuse for the police to ask for a gratuity.
I hope this helps. Enjoy!
After reading so many great trip reports and looking at so many hot pictures on the Kenya forum I will be booking my flight this week for mid April to Mombasa and just wanted to ask a few question.
1. Would anyone ever recommend the Sai Rock apartments is it close to the action guest friendly and safe.
2. Have read many report's on prices such accommodation Ladies and beer but what are the general prices on spirits/wines and food also I have a budget of £3500 for 19 days and iam a heavy drinker do you think this will cover me.
3. I just bought myself a sony 8.1 megapixel cybershot camera and wanted to post alot of photo's on this forum but read that pornography is illegal how dose other bm work around this problem.
4. How dose the smoking ban affect tourists are there smoking areas in bars restaurants beaches and airports.
Thx for taking the time to read my post and if any bm are traveling in April and want to meet up for some drinks and a laugh pm me.
Thank you for replying so quickly and taking the time to answer all my questions TravelRough.
I will book my flight this evening.
LustyHombre
11-08-07, 11:40
1. Would anyone ever recommend the Sai Rock apartments is it close to the action guest friendly and safe.
Location is very good ; have never been inside but looks a bit crummy from the outside .
2. Have read many report's on prices such accommodation Ladies and beer but what are the general prices on spirits/wines and food also I have a budget of £3500 for 19 days and iam a heavy drinker do you think this will cover me.
For that kind of money ,not only can you get plastered every night but you can buy many rounds for a bevy of hangers-on as well ( trust me, there will be many , once they notice what's going on ).
Beer is around 1Stg everywhere for a 500ml bottle , most mixed drinks are around 1.50 (if you stay with locally distilled stuff - quite acceptable quality and the brands are the same as in the UK ) , wines in resto's are around 10-15 per bottle , and half that if you buy them in a supermarket. Food in general is cheaper ( and better qlty ) than in the UK .
3. I just bought myself a sony 8.1 megapixel cybershot camera and wanted to post alot of photo's on this forum but read that pornography is illegal how dose other bm work around this problem.
Have never heard of anybody having had his camera or computer inspected by Customs or Police.
4. How dose the smoking ban affect tourists are there smoking areas in bars restaurants beaches and airports.
People seem to smoke everywhere , in all bars and restos , in cars and out on the streets . The public smoking ban seems to have been totally forgotten already .....
Thx for taking the time to read my post and if any bm are traveling in April and want to meet up for some drinks and a laugh pm me.Have fun!
I have a budget of £3500 for 19 days and i am a heavy drinker do you think this will cover me.
Mate, your budget is way over the top, i am also a thirsty monger. This should cover myself for three trips(10 days each) - flights, accommodation and food, not to mention the honey as well. Food is of a poor standard in Kenya, staying in a five star hotel will solve this issue though. Do not pay over the going rates for the chickies, take care, they will soon grasp that you have gold in abundance and go to work on you.
pornography is illegal how dose other bm work around this problem.
Not a concern. However, when leaving Kenya, just as a precaution the security at the airport will check that your camera is fully functionary - in other words, is not a weapon. Do not be alarmed.
Not a concern. However, when leaving Kenya, just as a precaution the security at the airport will check that your camera is fully functionary - in other words, is not a weapon. Do not be alarmed.
I've been through Nairobi airport dozens of times & never once had my camera checked !
So wouldn't get paranoid about that !
But ... as a precaution that no-one else will browse my camera files -
like workmates, wife, kids etc .. I always transfer to another storage medium!
JMHI
G
Thx Gesheft Noddy LustyHombre and TravelRough I finally booked my flight this morning flying out on the 1st of April with Kenya airways.
I've just check my itenerey and may have disovered a problem with my flight times. Will I have to get a visa at Naiobi or is this also possible at Mombassa airport as well. 2 hours isn't a long time to get visa clear customs and catch my next flight.
London - Heathrow Airport (LHR)
Nairobi - Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (NBO)
20:00 - 11 Apr 2008
06:30 - 12 Apr 2008
Nairobi - Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (NBO)
Mombasa - Moi International Airport (MBA)
08:30 - 12 Apr 2008
09:30 - 12 Apr 2008
Mate,
Visa is issued on arrival, US$50 - i presume you are travelling with British passport - as you transgress passport control. A process of no longer than 40 min or so, most times much less, depending where you are in the queue.
Engage top gear upon leaving the aircraft, if time really is an issue, never fear, approach an official, they will do the necessary.
You are not spending a few nights in Nairobi? i`m horrified and disappointed for you. A fun town it is, i rate Nairobi a better experience than Mombasa.
Perhaps you have rushed into your trip planning? How much thought have you put into it? This is not a criticism just an observation.
Thx Noddy but as this is my first time traveling to Africa I decided to travel to Mombasa first from what i've read it has more of a relaxed atmosphere.
I do plan travel to Nairobi on my second week for a few days i've read that its better to stay there during week days and not the weekends can you confirm this.
I do plan travel to Nairobi on my second week for a few days i've read that its better to stay there during week days and not the weekends can you confirm this.
Absolutely! better to spend weekends in Mombasa as this is when the nightlife is fully functional. And yes, the pace is very slow on the coast compared to Nairobi. This may take a few days getting used to depending on where you coming from.
Still remember my first time in Mombasa, being a Londoner, i found the first two days i was exceedingly restless, had the "want the fuck out of here" feeling. Was just great after a few days, had to de-stress. Of course then the nightlife is really fantastic with the outdoor clubs, the chicks, dance and booze, least i forget the fucking.
You will find Nairobi best from Sunday through Thursday. Don`t forget "rock night" at Carnivore restaurant, Wednesday evenings, starts 9pm - you must eat there of course. I stand to be corrected but i think ladies night on Thursday. Pm myself if you have anymore questions.
Tractor Boy
11-14-07, 16:25
After many months of enjoying reading all your reports, comments & advice, I would welcome some for myself.
I will be in Nairobi early December for a weeks work & am booked in to the Sarova Panafric hotel. As I am on my own & concrned about going out after dark, will there be a choice of willing ladies in & around the hotel / pool / bar areas.
The hotel also seems offers a massage service - any comments whether this can include "extras".
Please help an a "newbie" to Africa.
Hi Tractor Boy - Karibu Kenya.
Welcome to Kenya - Karibu Kenya.
1.. At Dusk and After Dark always use a taxi. They are safe. Never,never walk. Not even 20 metres.
2. 5-12 pm. Simmers Bar for pussy.( Ask Taxi Driver )
3. 11 pm til dawn. New Florida Disco. Best pussy selection in the world.
4. You will not pick up much at Panafric unfortunately.
5. If you need a cheap hotel for fucking ladies try Terminal Hotel in Town ( 15 euro) or Salama Annex Hotel/Annie Oakleys Bar.....3 mins by taxi from PanAfric
Take Care and have a great time.
Donnachaa
Thx Noddy, I will make a list of those places if I have any further questions I will pm.
Hi everybody,
Just came to this side yesterday. I am a 40 year old German who lives in Nairobi for the last 4 years. I can't agree to the security issues cause I have walked in town past midnight without any problems. Security has really improved in Nairobi in the last 2 years and even some badspots have been cleaned up by the police. As long as you don't cross down to the railway station, downtown after Tom Mboya Street and Wayaki Way to Uhuru Park it should not be a problem.
It is actual more dangerous hanging out in one of the bars in Hurlingham (where you can easily approach "real" girls) and drinking from an unattended glass. The new trick is to put something in your drink and when you wakeup you are lucky to have your shoes and panty!
Anyway we normally organize private parties. A great source are the local universities with hundreds of gorgeous young girls who can normally not afford to go to the top clubs (not Florida!).
Nairob mate,
Very smart name! welcome to the forum. Hopefully we will have regular input from a "local". Your remarks and experiences will be of great value on the forum, sadly many, do not bother to post which is a pity.
Your remarks, i fully agree with, just to add. Never leave your drink unattended no matter where you are world-wide, this is a golden rule of self preservation. In fact when one answers the call of nature, ensure your drink is fully consumed beforehand.
Nairobi is a much safer town nowadays, enabling one to walk the streets in some degree of comfort and reassurance.
Yankee 617
11-28-07, 18:31
Source: http://*******.com/2et8hv
Older white women join Kenya's sex tourists
Mon Nov 26, 2007
By Jeremy Clarke
MOMBASA, Kenya (Reuters) - Bethan, 56, lives in southern England on the same street as best friend Allie, 64.
They are on their first holiday to Kenya, a country they say is "just full of big young boys who like us older girls."
Hard figures are difficult to come by, but local people on the coast estimate that as many as one in five single women visiting from rich countries are in search of sex.
Allie and Bethan -- who both declined to give their full names -- said they planned to spend a whole month touring Kenya's palm-fringed beaches. They would do well to avoid the country's tourism officials.
"It's not evil," said Jake Grieves-Cook, chairman of the Kenya Tourist Board, when asked about the practice of older rich women traveling for sex with young Kenyan men.
"But it's certainly something we frown upon."
Also, the health risks are stark in a country with an AIDS prevalence of 6.9 percent. Although condom use can only be guessed at, Julia Davidson, an academic at Nottingham University who writes on sex tourism, said that in the course of her research she had met women who shunned condoms -- finding them too "businesslike" for their exotic fantasies.
The white beaches of the Indian Ocean coast stretched before the friends as they both walked arm-in-arm with young African men, Allie resting her white haired-head on the shoulder of her companion, a six-foot-four 23-year-old from the Maasai tribe.
He wore new sunglasses he said were a gift from her.
"We both get something we want -- where's the negative?" Allie asked in a bar later, nursing a strong, golden cocktail.
She was still wearing her bikini top, having just pulled on a pair of jeans and a necklace of traditional African beads.
Bethan sipped the same local drink: a powerful mix of honey, fresh limes and vodka known locally as "Dawa," or "medicine."
She kept one eye on her date -- a 20-year-old playing pool, a red bandana tying back dreadlocks and new-looking sports shoes on his feet.
He looked up and came to join her at the table, kissing her, then collecting more coins for the pool game.
"JUST UNWHOLESOME"
Grieves-Cook and many hotel managers say they are doing all they can to discourage the practice of older women picking up local boys, arguing it is far from the type of tourism they want to encourage in the east African nation.
"The head of a local hoteliers' association told me they have begun taking measures -- like refusing guests who want to change from a single to a double room," Grieves-Cook said.
"It's about trying to make those guests feel as uncomfortable as possible ... But it's a fine line. We are 100 percent against anything illegal, such as prostitution. But it's different with something like this -- it's just unwholesome."
These same beaches have long been notorious for attracting another type of sex tourists -- those who abuse children.
As many as 15,000 girls in four coastal districts -- about a third of all 12-18 year-olds girls there -- are involved in casual sex for cash, a joint study by Kenya's government and U.N. children's charity UNICEF reported late last year.
Up to 3,000 more girls and boys are in full-time sex work, it said, some paid for the "most horrific and abnormal acts."
"PREYING ON POVERTY?"
Emerging alongside this black market trade -- and obvious in the bars and on the sand once the sun goes down -- are thousands of elderly white women hoping for romantic, and legal, encounters with much younger Kenyan men.
They go dining at fine restaurants, then dancing, and back to expensive hotel rooms overlooking the coast.
"One type of sex tourist attracted the other," said one manager at a shorefront bar on Mombasa's Bamburi beach.
"Old white guys have always come for the younger girls and boys, preying on their poverty ... But these old women followed ... they never push the legal age limits, they seem happy just doing what is sneered at in their countries."
Experts say some thrive on the social status and financial power that comes from taking much poorer, younger lovers.
"This is what is sold to tourists by tourism companies -- a kind of return to a colonial past, where white women are served, serviced, and pampered by black minions," said Nottinghan University's Davidson.
"LIVE LIKE THE RICH"
Many of the visitors are on the lookout for men like Joseph.
Flashing a dazzling smile and built like an Olympic basketball star, the 22-year-old said he has slept with more than 100 white women, most of them 30 years his senior.
"When I go into the clubs, those are the only women I look for now," he told Reuters. "I get to live like the rich mzungus (white people) who come here from rich countries, staying in the best hotels and just having my fun."
At one club, a group of about 25 dancing men -- most of them Joseph look-alikes -- edge closer and closer to a crowd of more than a dozen white women, all in their autumn years.
"It's not love, obviously. I didn't come here looking for a husband," Bethan said over a pounding beat from the speakers.
"It's a social arrangement. I buy him a nice shirt and we go out for dinner. For as long as he stays with me he doesn't pay for anything, and I get what I want -- a good time. How is that different from a man buying a young girl dinner?"
(Editing by Daniel Wallis and Sara Ledwith)
Yankee mate,
When you travel to the coast you will certainly get to see Grandma knocking about with young Rusta. And why the hell not! Give the old dollies their thrill just like you and i lol (smiley`s ignoring me again)
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How is that different from a man buying a young girl dinner?"No problem here. Noone else is gonna help her get her groove on. The difference is that she is likely using her "old man's" money who she left at home.
One of my most crazy stories happened just two month ago. I had not planned to hang out in town that thursday, but I had to wait for somebody's payment so the guy came at around 10pm. We had a couple of beers and I was ready to return home, but when I passed Madhouse I felt a certain urge to look for the latest arrivals (I usually go to more decent clubs or stud hangouts). I found a newbie, propably around 23 with a pretty face and all signs that she was relatively new here (the old hags are normally hanging with the other old hags). After some drinks I just wanted to head home but the little chick didn't want me to part even for the normal 200 "transport money". We ended up in her place in Ngara (about ten minutes from Town) a real downclass area and the place was just a room in horrible conditions (I don't think many guys here would have dared to enter), but after some years in Africa you get used to this.
When she removed her clothes there was a knock on the door. Her neighbour wanted to join us and 'suprise, surprise' she came with another friend. I ended up fucking all of them in the small bed . It was great, they were all not very professional and enjoyed the action quite natural. I parted after more than two hours with 2,500 Shillings less in my pocket. Wish the light was a bit better than i could have provided some pictures from the encounter. I never did 3 chicks at the same time before.
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King Prawn
12-05-07, 09:09
Well to all you guys who were wondering if serena was g/f I must say it is. The bar in the hotel after 10pm has a fair selection. You could take them up to your room for an additional 50 usd paid to the reception.
Hope this is usefull. In case you are unsure the doorman will help you out.
Well to all you guys who were wondering if serena was g/f I must say it is. The bar in the hotel after 10pm has a fair selection. You could take them up to your room for an additional 50 usd paid to the reception.Sorry, but when I have to pay 50 USD I can have 2 Girls the howl Night and stay in Mtwapa - of course Room in Serena is nicer.
I never did 3 chicks at the same time before.Neither most people here, we only have one and you're lucky to have three dicks!
Yes, me too, where are the smilies.
I don’t know whether anybody is aware of the different tribes in Kenya? When you look for a lady in Nairobi you will most likely encounter one of the following tribes: Kikuyu – the largest tribes in Kenya and the majority population for Nairobi and the surrounding Central Province.
I got married to one in 1998 and it lasted almost three years when I couldn’t stand the lies and chaos anymore. These Ladies are among the cutest (and cleverest) chicks you will find in Kenya. They normally have a big forehead and bigger asses and tights than other girls. It is absolutely no marrying material especially when you want to life with them in Europe or the US (what I did unfortunately). For casual sex or short time relationships you can give it a try, but be careful they are smart asses and can really cause trouble.
Looks – between 5 and 10 the average is fairly above 6
Relationship – 0 to 4 hands off!
Sex – between 3 and 7 – the professionals are sometimes really good but it feels fake anyway
Luhya – the second largest tribe in Kenya and also one of the biggest groups in urban areas. Luhya’s have more than 30 Sub-Tribes which are quite different in their cultures. Anyway the behavior or custody of the women is more or less the same.
Their Region is Western Province on the border to Uganda and they are – like Kikuyus – Bantus.
My second and actual wife is Luhya – Tiriki Sub-Tribe from Hamisi-District – and I have never had anybody who is so loving and caring. That goes for most of the Luhya’s that I met. Their tradition teaches them how to satisfy and obey their men (I don’t like the obeying part but it is possible to change that). They don’t have the cutest faces but mostly very beautiful bodies. They are real outperformers when it comes to cooking and making love and it really doesn’t matter if the girl is a pro or just a girl from next door they all enjoy being with a man. Careful if you live with a Luhya Lady she might wants it every day!
Looks – between 4 and 9 the average is about 5
Relationship – 4 to 10 maybe one of the few you can even bring home.
Sex – between 6 and 10, I never had one with less than 8
Luo – the third biggest tribe and also one of the biggest groups in urban centers. Not so common at the coast but in any town from Kisumu to Nairobi. Their home area is Nyanza Province with the main town Kisumu (which is quite worth to spend some time there). Luo’s are Nilotes they are originally from the shores of the River Nile from Southern Sudan and many believe they are one of the descendents from the Kingdom of Saba. Maybe that’s why there man are among the most arrogant characters. Anyway many of my friends are Luo’s and you learn to live with it. Their women are almost the opposite they are – like the Luhya – very loving and caring. They are some very beautiful Luo Ladies although the majority don’t have very pretty faces. Most of them are darker than the average Kenyan Lady and they all have long legs and quite beautiful breasts. The sex is very good even the pro’s really giving a good job.
Looks – between 5 and 10
Relationship – 4 to 10
Sex – 5 to 9
I will continue this List if you want to know more about the tribes. When I started my business here in Kenya I really tried a lot of the different tribes when I travelled around doing my projects. I so far experienced 26 out of the 42 tribes of Kenya. I favor the Luhya and Luo, but there are some nice Kalenjin and Turkana that can really surprise you.
Greetings,
Nairob
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I don’t know whether anybody is aware of the different tribes in Kenya? When you look for a lady in Nairobi you will most likely encounter one of the following tribes: Kikuyu – the largest tribes in Kenya and the majority population for Nairobi and the surrounding Central
Province.
[...]
I will continue this List if you want to know more about the tribes. When I started my business here in Kenya I really tried a lot of the different tribes when I travelled around doing my projects. I so far experienced 26 out of the 42 tribes of Kenya. I favor the Luhya and Luo, but there are some nice Kalenjin and Turkana that can really surprise you.
Greetings,
Nairob
True about the Kikuyus- something about their culture seems to breed a lust for money. No doubt the most charming when they're on the hunt, but once they're done with someone they can dump them quite unceremoniously. But man are some of them hot! Stay away unless for a quick one-night stand. That's my experience anyway.
Luos- lovely girls. Pity about the arrogance of some of their men. Soon to be ruling the country by the looks of things. Should be interesting (Newspaper Headlines : "Parliament moved to Kisumu")...
Kambas are also not too bad - good looking girls (sometimes can be confused with Kikuyu as they have a similar build and complexion, and know how to perform in bed. Unfortunately not very stable women (when compared to Luos and Luhyas) but more so thank the Kikuyu.
The only tribe I've had real bad experiences with are the Somalis who, in all fairness, aren't really Kenyan (though some are born there). These are the prettiest, nuttiest babes on the planet, as far as I'm concerned.
Someone once told me that most local girls in a relationship with a foreigner always have a local boy with whom they have a discreet second relationship. I've heard this about other Africans as well such as Ethiopians. Indeed all the Kenyan/Tanzanian/Ugandan/Ethiopian girls I know that are in a relationship with a "Mzungu" also have a boyfriend from their own tribe. I wonder how true this really holds - maybe its just the ones I know.
Cheers!
/AU
Just looking for the updated scene in Nairobi. Last time there was April last year, could someone update me on Massage house scene, I went to that place in Gill house and tried "Purity" for massage and FS, she was great.
There has been rumours about full services at 680 hotel, can someone confirm this. Just looking forward to the visit, wish there was more time to hunt, but business is going to occupy most of my time there, but a great massage and full service action is great. Locations and price ranges, would be appreciated.
LM
Nm No More
12-26-07, 23:29
To reply to Lynn Man and others interested in massage in Nairobi. I am a masseuse myself, a kenyan girl mid-twenties, with loads of contacts.
Firstly guys, please respect us and give us the choice as to how far we go! Massage is massage. If you are nice and polite to us, that usually includes the genitals. A handjob is not to be taken for granted, but if the girl likes you, and you are a nice guy/gal. Well. Why not. We all want our clients to go away happy. BJs and beyond that are really in a different league, but there are always some gals who are willing, for some extra money, of course! (Hey. Would YOU give a complete stranger a BJ without expecting something for the service, if this was YOUR main source of income? Think it over! No way you wouldn't! )
Many of you seem concerned about the security of the place you are going to go for a massage. This is important. Luckily someone in the beauty therapy field has recently rented a very discreet and secure massage therapy room which some of us masseuses are planning on using regularly. Its along the main Northbound highway just beyond Westlands, and at a matatu stage if you don't have a car. Someone could meet you at Westlands and take a cab/mat with you. Its inside a very safe compound which also houses a medical centre and offices. No-one would bat an eyelid at your comings and goings. Just be a little discreet and QUIET at the gate, saying you are going for therapy. No shouting or music is permitted within the compound. Its a medical/religious institution. So. No rowdiness please!
I was a trainer at a beauty and massage school, so I know many of the cutest and hottest masseuses. All offering our service at modest rates. (Tho I am the creme de la creme! ) If any of them start quoting over the going rates, we will exclude them from our "club". We will also be using the massage therapy room ourselves a lot, to avoid burn-out ourselves. We will be allowed to use it for massaging each other very cheaply. So. If you are lucky. You may find several masseuses at the room. 20 fingers is better than 10! But if you want to be alone, with your masseuse, we will leave you in peace. Its a very quiet and peaceful room, with hot showers and towels provided. We have to pay the owner, per person per hour, from the money the client pays us. This is currently 500 Ksh per client per hour. We think this is very fair compared to them having to take us to a hotel and all the embarrassment that could cause if they are not keen on being seen with a young lady. However some of us CAN undertake hotel visits, depending on the time of day and the location of the hotel. P. (Please reply in this thread so that we may somehow meet up).
To reply to Lynn Man and others interested in massage in Nairobi. I am a masseuse myself, a kenyan girl mid-twenties, with loads of contacts.
(Tho I am the creme de la creme! ) .
Nice post !
Well I think that it would be great if you post some kind of contact details here - or where we can find them .. like which paper & which ad or seomthing like that - becuase I am sure that I am not alone ib being one that would value your services !
G.
Nm No More
12-27-07, 13:17
We are not allowed to give contact details here. So. How can we do this? By the way we don't advertise in the newspapers. Those who do, in the main, are pros who misuse the words massage and beauty, giving them a sleazy public image. We are keen on restoring the wholesome image of massage, because it can be every bit as thrilling as sex itself. Just tune yourself into it and stop equating it with sex. Its a totally different sensual experience! Many people use massage as a legitimate way of dealing with their sexual tension, avoiding all the hassles of getting involved with a girlfriend, who doesnt often deliver when you want it! Why go out at night hunting for a perfect beauty, when you can relax in the daytime and have all your stresses and tensions eased away? Ok it may be true, that SOME masseuses also give sexual services. But don't TAKE IT AS THE NORM. Any more than you would expect sex from a nurse at a hospital. Masseuses are health&beauty professionals, same as nurses. Some of you guys think that just by waving some 1000 shilling notes around, Kenyan gals will be gagging for sex. Hey thats about 10 years out of date! Sure you can get sex for 1000 from certain chicks. But that doesnt mean to say that massage is half as good as that, therefore it should be 500! (hey. A great massage can be way better than a lousy sexbout! ) Anywhere in the world, people do things for different prices. Please don't expect fixed prices. This is not a meat market! These are real PEOPLE you are dealing with! Some would NEED 3000 while others would be ok with 1000. It all depends on their circumstances! Is YOUR salary the same as your brothers? NO! SO, just because "Mary" didn't kick up a fuss in the morning after you have taken her in all styles all night and you only hand her a 1000 sh note as "cab money", THAT doesnt mean that you should then expect others to be so kind. Others expect 2000, or 3000, and they have their reasons. Will you guys in this site please stop COMPARING this fuck with that and saying oh she did it for 4 hours for 1500 but so-and-so did it for 1 hour and demanded 3000. There will never be an official going rate for selling your body, it all depends what one is willing to do. One lady I know asks and gets 5000 from her white pals, but equally she can do it for free if she decides to. Just be friendly in negotiating and say so if you honestly can't afford the going rate. We are all short of cash sometimes. However, please don't look down your nose at those who accept money for personal services. As Lucky Man has stated in his good reports, it depends very much on how YOU perceive the lady, not how she perceives herself. Ofcourse its infuriating sometimes when a gal can't give you a price in advance. Its because she doesnt yet know the scale of the "work" ahead, and also she is naturally hoping that by leaving the decision with you, she will receive more than if she says her rock-bottom price! Often visiting whites will slip a girl 30 to 50 dollars. Whereas she would have accepted 20. So. Its natural for her to be coy about naming her price. But hey. Lets not get hung up about prices. After all money is like sand, it slips thru the hands and gets swallowed up by the Ocean. You came here with a budget for fun, didn't you? So. Pay according to what is reasonable to you, within your budget. Its simple really. But honestly if you can give a girl just 1000 (8 pounds sterling! ) for a really good HJ or BJ or FS. Really. You haven't a heart! Thats just 3 or 4 beers in your home country. Can you expect a lady to open up and give you the best time of your life, and then hand her a 1000 shilling note? Please guys. BE HUMANE! End of Soap Box preaching! Welcome guys!
LustyHombre
12-27-07, 13:48
To reply to Lynn Man and others interested in massage in Nairobi. I am a masseuse myself, a kenyan girl mid-twenties, with loads of contacts.
Firstly guys, please respect us and give us the choice as to how far we go! Massage is massage. If you are nice and polite to us, that usually includes the genitals. A handjob is not to be taken for granted, but if the girl likes you, and you are a nice guy/gal. Well. Why not. We all want our clients to go away happy. BJs and beyond that are really in a different league, but there are always some gals who are willing, for some extra money, of course! (Hey. Would YOU give a complete stranger a BJ without expecting something for the service, if this was YOUR main source of income? Think it over! No way you wouldn't! )
Many of you seem concerned about the security of the place you are going to go for a massage. This is important. Luckily someone in the beauty therapy field has recently rented a very discreet and secure massage therapy room which some of us masseuses are planning on using regularly. Its along the main Northbound highway just beyond Westlands, and at a matatu stage if you don't have a car. Someone could meet you at Westlands and take a cab/mat with you. Its inside a very safe compound which also houses a medical centre and offices. No-one would bat an eyelid at your comings and goings. Just be a little discreet and QUIET at the gate, saying you are going for therapy. No shouting or music is permitted within the compound. Its a medical/religious institution. So. No rowdiness please!
I was a trainer at a beauty and massage school, so I know many of the cutest and hottest masseuses. All offering our service at modest rates. (Tho I am the creme de la creme! ) If any of them start quoting over the going rates, we will exclude them from our "club". We will also be using the massage therapy room ourselves a lot, to avoid burn-out ourselves. We will be allowed to use it for massaging each other very cheaply. So. If you are lucky. You may find several masseuses at the room. 20 fingers is better than 10! But if you want to be alone, with your masseuse, we will leave you in peace. Its a very quiet and peaceful room, with hot showers and towels provided. We have to pay the owner, per person per hour, from the money the client pays us. This is currently 500 Ksh per client per hour. We think this is very fair compared to them having to take us to a hotel and all the embarrassment that could cause if they are not keen on being seen with a young lady. However some of us CAN undertake hotel visits, depending on the time of day and the location of the hotel. P. (Please reply in this thread so that we may somehow meet up).Sounds very interesting to me, especially after the poor experiences I had on my last NBO trip.
And Westlands is perfect for me. And the rate for the room sounds very reasonable.
How do I get in touch with you?
Great to hear about the massage in westlands, Could you say which newspaper you post in, its not possible to send private e-mail on this forum, unless both members have premium services.
I think a good solution would be to post here the name of the street, then describe the building itself (eg what markings, or writting on the building), and the office/ room number to look up for this massage service.
LM
The girl say that 1000s is 4 beers in mzungu country. Last weeck I was visit nairobi barkly bank. Many persons claining stoons from bank outsite for salery from 250s PER DAY. Wath you want 4 days claining stones of bank or 1h massage (smal money she say) De prices for servis is in the country from the handling. Maby the girl verget that flytiket end hotel costing money. I am not agree that she thoke that 1000s is small money. Many hardworkers hef only 200 s /per day.
80 procent for evry worker hef 5000s end less per month to hef job (if you hef)The biggist banknote is evry country is always big money .The prices in kenya hef notting to do with prices from EU .De prices to life in EU country are many thimes higher than in Kenya .In many drinkbars hef waiter 1s for one drink wath she serv .I now girl in kenya in cybercafe en hef 10 procent from money wath coming insite ,work from 7am till 8pm ,6 days weeck ,salery around 3500s /MONTH .Maby next job for maseusse lady Kenya girls draem tomatch about money.
We are keen on restoring the wholesome image of massage, because it can be every bit as thrilling as sex itself.......... Ok it may be true, that SOME masseuses also give sexual services. But don't TAKE IT AS THE NORM. ...... (hey. A great massage can be way better than a lousy sexbout! )........ Anywhere in the world, people do things for different prices. Please don't expect fixed prices. This is not a meat market! These are real PEOPLE you are dealing with! ........Will you guys in this site please stop COMPARING this fuck with that and saying oh she did it for 4 hours for 1500 but so-and-so did it for 1 hour and demanded 3000. ..... However, please don't look down your nose at those who accept money for personal services. ....Welcome guys!
Well yes I can agree ! A good massage is not like sex and IMHO there's a time for a massage & there's a time for sex.
BUT - I expect that I am answering for most guys in that a great finale to a good massage is a "happy ending" .. making sure that we leave with with a smile on our face!
Now - on one side you are saying that you wish to restore the image of the massage service as compared to the sex side - which is fine & I can respect that - but on the other hand you are getting into the money side of the sex business ... so I'm not sure what you are really trying to advocate here !
I don't want to get into a long ping-pong discussion on this - but - from my point of view :
A good massage is usually only from someone who has been trained and experienced in it.
It is nice to have a happy ending to the massage - which should be a natural flow of the massage experience.
Regarding the payment involved - every service has its' value - and better service should be awarded accordingly.
Now ... just give us the info as to how we can find experience your services !
Cheers
G.
In the daily nation stay many of this advertements. One thime stay price 600s (1h) The girl explain that evry servis was valebel till 5000s. But I choise the 600s servis. I look my watch. After 40 minutes she told my. You thime is finnich. Better to invest your money in florida madhouse disco than in this system from ripp-up Laesy girls for fast money this al. I now one person Hi thoke 42 different girls without price appointment before for always full night. Never Hi pay more than 1000s. Not one girl protest him.
Nm No More
12-29-07, 01:10
thanks guys for your comments. firstly, its horses for courses really, i don't think we will ever reach a forum concensus on what is a fair price to pay for sex in any particular country. just as in europe the price for sex will vary from 0 to 500 dollars or more, so in kenya the price will always vary, from 0 to 5000 shillings. that was not my point, when i mentioned the price of beer. sure, the cost of living in africa is much lower, and many girls have to make do with just 200 ksh a day, in regular jobs, or equally, if they are freelance masseuses. who one day may make 1000, another 4 days get no client at all. which averages to 200 per day over 5 days. but the cost of a good professional massage is already less than one third of the cost in europe. for instance 1500 being less than £12 sterling, is only a third of what she would charge in the uk. and remember guys, as in any business, that is gross income. take out rent, travel, accomodation and food, cost of massage tables etc. and you will perhaps agree that it is only just scraping out an existence. its worth doing as a job one may enjoy doing, but not as a money-spinner.
my point is that however many ladies are willing to sell themselves for less, ie, 500 or 1000 shillings, this has no bearing on the value of other services such as hair-dos, manicure, pedicure or massage. yes you will find a girl who will do a fuck for the same price as a manicure, but that doesnt mean we all drop the price of a manicure. lets be honest guys, a manicure is worth less than sex, in real terms, but, you may just get lucky or call it a special offer, to be fucked for the price of a manicure.
mr. gesheft, thanks for your polite comments, but i don't see where your confusion lies, i see no paradox in what i am saying. yes i believe that massage should be treated as a very different service to sex, but yes i also think that those who do sell themselves, should be free to set the price, i think its just sour grapes if you meet a girl and really lust for her but she gives you a high price, hey, get over it! its a womans prerogative! for instance i know one slim luo lady, age 32, who regularly goes to a certain british man for sex, and never asks him for a penny, whereas she also goes to a certain russian man for sex, and asks him for 5000 every time. and she is not even a prostitute she is a travel agent! so lets please be flexible and just put it down to favouritism. but i am sure that if the brit was told 5000 for her pussy, he would decline the offer, because he is on a very tight budget currently, and can easily phone another girl and get it for free (charmer that he is! ). and yet who is to say that the russian is unwise to give her 5k? firstly, he is saving all the time and effort of a night out, taxis, booze, admissions, gift drinks, paying a girl. all that can easily add up to nearly 5k and he would probably enjoy sex much more in the comfort of his own home, with a lady who is of very high repute. a lady who is much hornier than the prostitutes, and who won't let him sleep until her lusts are well and truly dealt with! a lady who, instead of giving him the indifferent glares and negative vibes many prostitutes give a man, would jump on him the moment she is thru his door, who would shower him and devour his dick with her hot mouth as if she has had no supper for days, then ride him to heaven on his kitchen floor. who is to say that he is unwise in using his 5k and the guy who goes to fameland (river road) to find a pro for less than 1000, is wise? not i! i think both are wise and should be happy and contented men! (and yes i do have the slim luo lady's phone number! ). (and no you can't get it from me unless and until you are a good and regular client of mine, for body massage (with h-e! ).
i must admit, african ladies do tend to have a common misconception that all foreigners are loaded and are not on a tight budget. but they forget that foreigners also, from their culture, have a very strong sense of fairness. i know a fairly well off doctor from germany, whose sense of "knowing a fair local price" outweighs his generosity sometimes, and i hear him saying that he wouldn't pay someone 30 dollars for an all night sexcapade, and yet his salary per month must be well in excess of 5000 dollars! so, what is 30 dollars to him? and yet, he doesnt want to pay over the odds for sex. and i respect that!
what i know is that if you take your time with any lady and charm your way into her panties, instead of talking cash in advance, you will more often than not end up paying her less. all in all guys remember, men are logical and women are not, and we are from different planets really, (mars and venus if you have read the excellent book! ) so please please please don't overreact if a girl quotes a high price. don't take it as a personal insult ("who do you think i am, bill gates! ") or ("hey mimi si mtalii bwana mimi ni mwenyeji, nifanyie bei poa dadangu! "). but gesheft, about expecting a happy ending in a full-body massage, i agree, its normal, but, some good masseuses don't do it, i guess they have had some bad experiences of men getting too horny and wanting sex too. i can only speak for myself here, and say, its cool, a happy ending is no big deal, but let it not be a pre-stated service, lest masseuses wrongly be classified as sex workers. call it just a favour done to a friendly client. but hey, another good way of having a happy ending is this. if the girl says no, she doesnt do genitals, just remain cool and let her continue massaging your most sensitive areas, direct her hands to where you love it most, ie your chest, your neck, or your toes, or your thighs, and then gently ask her if its ok if you just touch yourself too, she won't say no to that, and then all you do is jerk your own dick and concentrate on the sensations her wandering fingers are giving you, don't think about what your own hand is doing, and then, what you do is this, with your spare hand you caress where you wish her hands would caress, maybe behind your balls, maybe your nipples, just act all erotic and start to tell her shes pretty, that her hands are great, take one of the hands on your thigh and just lead it to caress the perenium, behind the balls, with oiled up fingers, or lead one hand to your nipples, squeeze her fingers gently and believe me she is so so unlikely to say no. some girls are happy to massage the balls especially if they are clean shaven but they don't wanna touch a strangers semen. then when you reach your orgasm from the pleasure her fingers are giving you, and she will know its over, the job is done and you will leave with no regrets. and who knows, next time she might even push your hands aside and do it all herself. don't post a report in isg saying so-and-so doesnt do hjs, til you are very sure she doesnt! but again, please guys, the service offered is a body massage, not an orgasm! think of it as a finger buffet, all the food is there but you have to use your own fingers to lift it from your plate to your mouth! and yet you are paying for the food. not the "being fed". life in 2008 is all about self-service and making of things what you can, enjoying what you can!
with that food for thought, i wish you all a good week and i will post more once i am back in nairobi after the new year holidays!
cheers!
LustyHombre
12-29-07, 18:05
both are wise and should be happy and contented men! (And yes I do have the slim Luo lady's phone number! ). (And no you can't get it from me unless and until you are a good and regular client of mine, for body massage (with h-e! ).
Think of it as a finger buffet, all the food is there but you have to use your own fingers to lift it from your plate to your mouth! And yet you are paying for the food. Not the "being fed". Life in 2008 is all about self-service and making of things what you can, enjoying what you can!
With that FOOD FOR THOUGHT, I wish you all a good week and I will post more once I am back in Nairobi after the New Year holidays!
Cheers!You are quite a tease now, aren't you ??
Anyhow, I enjoy the eloquence with which you make your points and would like to think that I might be in for a very satisfying experience with you , even if the massage does not have the customary "happy ending".
I like the thrill of the hunt , the unpredictability of it all . I enjoy knowing that my skills , applied in situations where the chemistry is just right to allow the instant generation of mutual trust, have helped me to make many "conquests" in P4P situations where the published menu outlines very clear limits.
In politics this is called "lowering expectations" but it makes good sense in any business.
Greetings Everyone,
I deleted this "report" because the text contained so many unknown abbreviations, misspelled words and local slang that it was literally unreadable. In fact, it was so bad that the only way I can describe it was that it looked like English translated into Chinese, then translated back to English, with every third letter subsequently deleted.
Thanks,
Jackson
Nairobi Masseuse,
Please give some more indication of where or how we can find your parlor. Want to visit you. It sounds great, thanks.
Nairobi Masseause, thanks for the info on your place in Westlands, but there are so many stores, shops, etc. Please offer more info so that we can find it.
I had been to Thorn Tree a number of times and saw a very beautiful young lady who used to dance there in the evenings. Anyone know about her, where she is dancing these days? Last time I was in Nairobi I didn't see her around.
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