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Is the crowne plaza girlfriendly?All of your posts are just one sentence questions.
As I told you before at least post your question in the respective thread.
Crowne Plaza in Malindi, Nairobi, Moyale, Kisumu or Mombasa?
As it seems you are quite active and since this is a forum your experiences would be highly appreciated as well.
All of your posts are just one sentence questions.
As I told you before at least post your question in the respective thread.
Crowne Plaza in Malindi, Nairobi, Moyale, Kisumu or Mombasa?
As it seems your are quite active and since this is a forum your experiences would be highly appreciated as well.First time in Kenya man. So why are you rude? I think it is in Nairobi.
First time in Kenya man. So why are you rude? I think it is in Nairobi.Jacky the Crown Plaza is a top hotel and do not make problems.
I have never problems in the top hotels but most in the low hotels.
But hold the dress code for that class.
I preferred the outskirt hotels for my trips special when I hunt for the amateur. Non pro.
Jacky the Crown Plaza is a top hotel and do not make problems.
I have never problems in the top hotels but most in the low hotels.
But hold the dress code for that class.
I preferred the outskirt hotels for my trips special when I hunt for the amateur. Non pro.Crown Plaza is in upper hill area of Nairobi. It is a 5 star hotel and there is absolutely no problem bringing your lady. In fact, I have never had nor heard of any hotel in Kenya that has a problem with you bringing your ladie (s). However, you may have to register her. But that is no problem except with some you would have to pay for the extra person in the room.
Many high class hotels like to have extra money for extra visiters. Like in white sands hotel Mombasa. Asking you 3800ksh extra for visiters. Many hunters going with the girls to low cost hotels. Last month in terminal hotel Nairobi. 4 persons (2girls / 2 mans) paying 2900ksh for 2persons rooms (strangs). For the reception is this black money. After sex. This persons saying goodbay to this hotel after 2h. To brenging extra girls in high classe hotels is wet draem. Only to pay big money (100 dollar?) than yes. End this money going to the black box. Many persons giving wrong information to this website.
Any one tried this website for booking? Seem a bit expensive though
Many high class hotels like to have extra money for extra visiters. Like in white sands hotel Mombasa. Asking you 3800ksh extra for visiters. Many hunters going with the girls to low cost hotels. Last month in terminal hotel Nairobi. 4 persons (2girls / 2 mans) paying 2900ksh for 2persons rooms (strangs). For the reception is this black money. After sex. This persons saying goodbay to this hotel after 2h. To brenging extra girls in high classe hotels is wet draem. Only to pay big money (100 dollar?) than yes. End this money going to the black box. Many persons giving wrong information to this website.I have to start off by saying that I love Africa. The weather cannot be beat. The food is delicious, though the quality can vary widely. The people are interesting. And the girls (well you know I think they are the best). But here are two things I absolutely dislike about Africa in general. 1) The first is the per person sharing room charging at many hotels in East Africa (some hotels in West / Central Africa will charge an extra person surcharge if you either arrive with a girlfriend or they know you had an overnight guest). Everywhere else, a double room is a double room and the rate is the rate you pay whether it is occupied by 1 person. 2 persons, or even 3 or 4 persons. The only time extra charges are incurred in US hotels is if you request an additional rollaway bed for the room. That is why I pay attention to those places I visit in Africa that do not charge per person sharing. And I can say that the other places that do charge per person sharing have lost out on my business the past two years (Royal Court in Mombasa was the last place I stayed that charge per person sharing and that was back in early 2011). Since then, I have stayed at Hotel Green Court, Chester House, and Nairobi Hilton in Nairobi (Hotel Green Court is not the best amenity wise, but ok from a gf standpoint). In Mombasa, I have bounced around from Kahama (2011) , Merry Villa (2011, 2013) , Kerstins Apartments (2013) , and Hibiskus Lodge (it is not a dump folks).
The second thing I dislike is the huge difference in resident / non-resident fees to enjoy the natiional parks. Since I actually did not come to Kenya to take in the national parks, I do not feel bad about voicing my thoughts on this. Besides, I have visited Nairobi National Park once and have been to countless numbers of zoos around the world. And I have seen most episodes of National Geographic and Animal Wild, so do I really need to spend thousands of dollars just to go see animals grazing in natural habitat? It is not a question of "can I afford it" but rather a question of what I prefer to spend my money on.
Now off my soapbox and time to rehydrate. These beach workouts and day / night fuck outs are getting me into nice shape!
I have to start off by saying that I love Africa. The weather cannot be beat. The food is delicious, though the quality can vary widely. The people are interesting. And the girls (well you know I think they are the best). But here are two things I absolutely dislike about Africa in general. 1) The first is the per person sharing room charging at many hotels in East Africa (some hotels in West / Central Africa will charge an extra person surcharge if you either arrive with a girlfriend or they know you had an overnight guest). Everywhere else, a double room is a double room and the rate is the rate you pay whether it is occupied by 1 person. 2 persons, or even 3 or 4 persons. The only time extra charges are incurred in US hotels is if you request an additional rollaway bed for the room. That is why I pay attention to those places I visit in Africa that do not charge per person sharing. And I can say that the other places that do charge per person sharing have lost out on my business the past two years (Royal Court in Mombasa was the last place I stayed that charge per person sharing and that was back in early 2011). Since then, I have stayed at Hotel Green Court, Chester House, and Nairobi Hilton in Nairobi (Hotel Green Court is not the best amenity wise, but ok from a gf standpoint)...During more than 2 years was staying publicity on the Malindi raod about Kahama. Text. Price 1750ksh / pers / room. Minimum sharing with 2 persons. Of course I was blind or drunk if I was passing there. Accomodations less than 3000ksh / day are dump accomodation. I will spend more for my confort than to spend money without limit for girls. Many mongers will sleeping in shit holes writing in this forum. I was paying 5000ksh for girls.
During more than 2 years was staying publicity on the Malindi raod about Kahama. Text. Price 1750ksh / pers / room. Minimum sharing with 2 persons. Of course I was blind or drunk if I was passing there. Accomodations less than 3000ksh / day are dump accomodation. I will spend more for my confort than to spend money without limit for girls. Many mongers will sleeping in shit holes writing in this forum. I was paying 5000ksh for girls.atWilliboy.
You are a frequent traveller to Mombasa area. Maybe cheaper and more convenient to rent a small 1-room apartment, with separate living room, kitchen and CR. In Mtwapa for 10000 KSH per month available. Furniture very cheap new or second Hand + second hand fridge from rehani.
[QUOTE=Jiggydus; 1447204.
The second thing I dislike is the huge difference in resident / non-resident fees to enjoy the natiional parks. Since I actually did not come to Kenya to take in the national parks, I do not feel bad about voicing my thoughts on this.
The same happens with the * (*) hotels which charge different rates depending if someone is resident or not. A bargain for residents at a range 2000-3000 KSH for the quality instead of 4000-5000 KSh. Applies mostly for middle sized provincial capitals for the 2 or three best Hotels at the place.
atWilliboy.
You are a frequent traveller to Mombasa area. Maybe cheaper and more convenient to rent a small 1-room apartment, with separate living room, kitchen and CR. In Mtwapa for 10000 KSH per month available. Furniture very cheap new or second Hand + second hand fridge from rehani.If I fly away from Mombasa. I say always. This was my last visit. I need food from my home country.
atWilliboy.
You are a frequent traveller to Mombasa area. Maybe cheaper and more convenient to rent a small 1-room apartment, with separate living room, kitchen and CR. In Mtwapa for 10000 KSH per month available. Furniture very cheap new or second Hand + second hand fridge from rehani.I will not sleep in this dirty Mtwapa. Sorry for persons finding this good. I will pay higher standard for myself and lass to the girls. If 2k / night is not enough for the girls. Than I will sleep alone, hakuna matata.
SceticoBlu
07-18-13, 14:27
The problem of ideal accomodation in Kenya is still unsolved for me.
It can be basic and remote but has to fulfill the criteria: 1. Quiet at night 2. GF 3. Price at most 5000 KSh, preferably around 3000.
My experiences: Kahama: terribly loud; Luck Appartment: also too loud, Travellers: above my price limit, Terminal / Nairobi: acceptable at the backside and if the room neighbour is quiet, because the building has thin walls.
This October maybe I try Kerstins, Merry Villa or Leinmach Guesthouse / Nyali. Other suggestions are most welcome.
atWilliboy.
You are a frequent traveller to Mombasa area. Maybe cheaper and more convenient to rent a small 1-room apartment, with separate living room, kitchen and CR. In Mtwapa for 10000 KSH per month available. Furniture very cheap new or second Hand + second hand fridge from rehani.Additional: With this suggestion I mean to rent permanently a flat and buy the furniture.
SceticoBlu
07-18-13, 15:36
Renting a flat and buying furniture will pay off for long term visitors. Also you are not flexible. If there is anything you don't like at all cancelling the contract may turn out to be difficult.
Renting a flat and buying furniture will pay off for long term visitors. Also you are not flexible. If there is anything you don't like at all cancelling the contract may turn out to be difficult.The apartment really pays off from a stay of 3 month at least. The main problem of a rental is maintenance esp. The repair of the water pump. Rent a new of newer building and know the owner. Many owners are middle aged females that had / have a muzungu Sponsor. If the muzungu is around no problem with maintenance. With a two month deposit and 1 month rent in advance the risk is not heavy and it is common to consummate the deposit before leaving.
The advantage of an apartment is, you can cook your own meals. There are not so many venues in Mombasa were you can eat really good at a reasonable Price. In Mtwapa there is an excellent butchery and the vegetable market is nearby. A diet on steaks / filet and vegetablesand fruits is not bad and very healthful. And for the other stuff is the girlfriend on duty.
If someone as a steady GF with good skills in bed and beyond than maybe convenient to put her there in the Apartment as part of the maintenance package. But this is another Story.
KnightOfNights
07-30-13, 07:36
Hello out there,
Whats it like in Diani beach? Is Mombasa better to hook up with a lady of the night? At the Severin, how much is the extra charge for an extra companion?
I'm going this winter!
Would really appreciate the help on there topics.
LustyHombre
08-01-13, 06:04
Hello out there,
Whats it like in Diani beach? Is Mombasa better to hook up with a lady of the night? At the Severin, how much is the extra charge for an extra companion?
I'm going this winter!
Would really appreciate the help on there topics.Why should I be surprised to see that somebody with a high-falutin moniker expects to be spoon fed like a toddler?
Each and every one of us started as a newbie once, no shame attached; but to ask a series of MBA-specific questions under "General Reports" indicates that you are not willing to invest any effort at all into trying to educate yourself a bit before asking others for their opinion and guidance.
You're off to a poor start here, Knight!
Naked Gunz
08-09-13, 12:14
Why should I be surprised to see that somebody with a high-falutin moniker expects to be spoon fed like a toddler?
You're off to a poor start here, Knight!LOL!
Don't look at me KON, haven't been there 6 years! Cool name though. Hey Jackson I want to change my handle...eh, anybody out there? I want to be ..drumroll....."The Cork", get it? Cause I plug holes!
Is the hilton girl friendky guys? Crwone is definiteoy not in Nairobi.
Is the hilton girl friendky guys? Crwone is definiteoy not in Nairobi.Hilton is girl friendly if you consider a guest surcharge (unless you book a double or are at least Gold level with HHonors) and registering of guest to be so. Pretty much most hotels and apartments in CBD will require I'd check of guest.
[QUOTE=Jiggydus; 1447204.
The second thing I dislike is the huge difference in resident / non-resident fees to enjoy the natiional parks. Since I actually did not come to Kenya to take in the national parks, I do not feel bad about voicing my thoughts on this.
The same happens with the * (*) hotels which charge different rates depending if someone is resident or not. A bargain for residents at a range 2000-3000 KSH for the quality instead of 4000-5000 KSh. Applies mostly for middle sized provincial capitals for the 2 or three best Hotels at the place.I've heard that you can quite easy a national ID. When I am back I'll get one therefore National park entry fee problems solved when you're in Africa you have to think and act like an African.
Naked Gunz
08-24-13, 14:06
[QUOTE=Taurus1; 1447336]I've heard that you can quite easy a national ID. When I am back I'll get one therefore National park entry fee problems solved when you're in Africa you have to think and act like an African.Take a date. When I took a local chick to Ft. Jesus the guy told me your Kenyan today and charged me resident fee.
Where can we hang out on a Sunday evening in Nairobi?
Naked Gunz
08-28-13, 08:40
Where can we hang out on a Sunday evening in Nairobi?You really have to be specific with such a question.
We as in you and your GF, or you and your wingman? Hang out. As in mongering or sightseeing?
http://migrationology.com/2011/01/things-to-do-in-nairobi-kenya-101/
Some hotels like Big Three don't have internet connection.
So, since I have bought new and very smart smartphone, I was thinking to use this for internet and data connection, in my hotel room only.
My old small cheap phone I am going to use for local phone calls, and that is the one that I am going to carry with me, I am too afraid of thiefs to carry smartphone with me.
So, anybody knows what is the best prepaid operator sim card service for data connections?
I am going to use it in Kenya only, in Nairobi / Mombasa beach, both south and north.
Thank you.
Leblon
some hotels like big three don't have internet connection.
so, since i have bought new and very smart smartphone, i was thinking to use this for internet and data connection, in my hotel room only.
my old small cheap phone i am going to use for local phone calls, and that is the one that i am going to carry with me, i am too afraid of thiefs to carry smartphone with me.
so, anybody knows what is the best prepaid operator sim card service for data connections?
i am going to use it in kenya only, in nairobi / mombasa beach, both south and north.
thank you.
leblonboth safaricom and orange offer data service in kenya, but you have to be either a kenyan citizen or resident to use orange (some agents may try to use their personal i'd to register you but you run risk of being cutoff if orange notices too many sim registrations by a given agent's name. there is no such restriction with safaricom and i like the data speeds. an alternative is to purchase a mobile hotspot to pop that sim into which would allow you to securely use multiple wifi-enabled devices. your call. i always travel with laptop, smartphone, and ipad (certain things i must do are better accomplished on each and impossible on the others). and just so i don't get this thread bogged down in mundane logistic stuff, here's a little eye candy that inspires me to visit africa sooner rather than later.
Found between Ongata Rongai and Kiserian just 19 year.
A happy day and night for a lunch- souper and bus fare back home.
contrary to jiggydus i had no problem whatsoever to register my surfstick with orange with a foreign passport. depending on where you are, safaricom or orange might be faster. during my stay in mombasa i enjoyed unlimited internet for 3000 kes a month at a speed of up to 21 mbps.
Understand.
Prostitution in Kenya is illegal.
Some of the Nairobi prostitues are sex workers at day time and housewives at the night time. They come back home from sex work just before their husbands get back from their jobs.
Red Light Districts.
Koinange Street area is a Red Light District in Nairobi. There are working girls selling their body just for about 200-250 shillings (less than $3 US). Ladies in their early twenties are engaging in the practice.
Many working girls have moved to hanging around Westlands Road area as well.
Prostitutes.
Some of the prostitutes go on in broad daylight in joints in downtown Nairobi where male clients flood to satisfy their sexual urge. These Nairobi prostitues are sex workers at day time and housewives at the night time. They come back home from their flesh trade just before their husbands get back from their jobs.
Some places on this list are Strip Clubs, so check out also Nairobi's Strip Clubs. You have a good chance to find prostitutes from these areas and clubs in Nairobi:
F1 a. K. A. Madhouse, Koinange Street.
Florida 2000 a. K. A. F2, Moi Avenue.
Tahiti, off Luthuli Avenue.
Fameland, at a place known as "Commercial".
Black Diamond, Electric Avenue.
IClub (formerly Tacos) , Kimathi Street.
Apple Bees, off Luthuli Avenue.
Sabina Joy, Moi Avenue.
Simmers, Kenyatta Avenue'
Liddos.
Sailors.
Club Barrels.
Good Hope, on River Road. Used to be very busy, nowadays it's dull.
Street Hookers.
Street hookers in Nairobi ask normally 250 shilling for one round and 800 shillings for whole night. You will probably see street walkers in these areas:
In the Red light district on Koinange Street.
Westlands Road area at night time.
In front of Amar Hotel, prostitutes standing in the corridors making it hard for anyone to pass through.
Kitale Hotel, prostitutes sitting on the couch inside.
Here is an interesting 7 minute long documentary about street prostitutes in Nairobi: Grand Report: Prostitution devolves to Nairobi estates.
Strip Clubs.
Here are some Strip clubs in Nairobi:
Apple Beez, Located along Gaborone road, this is the pioneer of stripping business in town. They literally set the trend in the industry. With strippers from as far as Brazil and USA, they are obviously serious about what they do. The joint is always crowded, but I would recommend Thursdays Kamasutra night. It is usually not as crowded hence the strippers give guys special attention.
Liddos, Located along Keekoroke road, this is the one joint edging out Apple beez as the ultimate Nairobi's top strip club. The music is so loud here, that you have to shout to order a drink. Its not as dark as Apple beez, but it isn't that bright either. A well managed club.
F3 Pango, A sister club to the renowned Florida pack of night clubs, its located along Moi Avenue in the same building that Florida 2000 is located. Actually you use the same entrance to F2. After 11pm, the music is usually very loud. With jungus and hindu guys preferring this club. This is definitely a high end joint, Sudanese are also spotted making it rain here. It is a sight to behold watching the strippers work those golden poles.
Tahiti Club, Another club located along river road. Its a relatively small club with the balcony serving as the VIP section. The music is loud, so loud that you can almost see you beer bottle moving around the table. You might think that you are chilling somewhere in Kampala when he decides to go Ham on Ugandan songs. Many of the strippers are gorgeous. At around 11pm, the strippers work the poles with bikinis and bras and as time goes, lose everything.
Small World strip club, This joint should not even feature in the list. Anyway It's quite popular and maybe you like to get different kind of experience of strip club. Located on a lane just off River road and on the 5th floor of an old building that has no lifts, this is a place you will certainly not visit twice. The first thing that you notice after entering the club is this huge hall with terrible lighting. The joint looks like a church hall, only that there are counters and stripping poles. The VIP section is also a shitty area, but when you are paying 1 sok to enter, you can't complain.
Brothels.
Munyu Road Junction on both sides of Luthuli, there should be two of them.
On the last building on 'Luthuli street on the right, there are three. That is where a lot of High school students prefer. Maybe because of the price. You will always catch them there during openings and closing of schools.
Across River Road, the famous Kericho East. Many prostitutes would dream to work here because the money is good. Working girls are everywhere, in the bar, in every corridor of the building and some wait for you outside. There are rooms inside and if you go in for an innocent one drink, you will definitely be served more than that. The place is so maintained, you won't even realize that it is a brothel.
Duruma Road, there is a bar called bar Jerry's. There are two more dingy lodges there which are brothels.
Tea Room is probably the most famous (after Sabina Joy. See Nairobi Prostitutes section). If you climb up the stairs to the reception, the only business there is selling out rooms and condoms. There are many prostitutes in the bar and in the rooms.
River Rood, Nyandarua Lodging, Prostitutes always loitering around there. You should avoid some of them because they might be under-aged. If a man passes there with no interest at them, they can get angry and be very agressive!
Erotic Massage Parlors.
Transsexuals.
Gay & Lesbian.
Homosexuality is "largely considered to be taboo and repugnant to [the] cultural values and morality" of Kenya, and the state punishes same-sex sexual acts as crimes. Despite this, various organisations are working to protect and improve LGBT rights.
There are lots of male gay sex workers in Nairobi.
Sexual Services for Women.
There are also young male sex workers in Nairobi who are ready to have sex with (older tourist) women for money or gifts.
Adult Shops.
Escort Services & Agencies.
You can find escorts in Nairobi online:
http://kenya.eastafricaescorts.com/
Sleeping.
Stay Safe.
Nairobi has a reputation for thievery. Beware of snatch and grab, con artists, or groups of people following you. Scams are elaborate and can involve up to 10 or more people working together. The best advice for a tourist is to stay in the city centre, know where you are at all times, and pretend you know where you're going (even if you don't). If you find yourself in an unfamiliar area your best bet is to find a taxi (although you will probably pay dearly if the driver suspects a panicked westerner!). Don't carry large quantities of money or passports on the street, and assume that anyone trying to engage you is up to no good or trying to sell you something. In recent years, crime has significantly reduced, though one should still be wary. If one stays smart and plays safe, without going around much after dark, Nairobi is a safe place to stay. Most locals are honest people who will happily help you if you approach them.
Outside of tourist and expat communities, children will become excited at the sight of a white person and may come running towards you to try to shake your hand while yelling out 'mzungu' (white person) or 'how are you? '. Older kids are more reserved, and you should be weary of kids who are older than 9 or 10 who are trying to distract or get close to you.
Slums should be avoided by tourists as you will attract a lot of attention which can quickly turn into a dangerous situation.
Apart from the inner city centre, Nairobi dies out at night. Streets are mostly empty. Do not walk alone after nightfall. Always use taxis. The areas north and east of River Road should be avoided, especially if you're not a local!
Biashara Street is a safe shopping street due to the presence of 10-15 Maasai guards. A place to avoid as a tourist is the City Market; you could end up paying a much higher price than on Biashara Street.
Eastleigh (known as 'little Mogadishu') is an area near the city centre that is decaying due to years of neglect by the government (including the police). It is predominantly populated by Somalian migrants and refugees, and most Kenyans will not go there for fear of their safety. Tourists would be wise to avoid it day and night.
[QUOTE=Willyboy; 1514127]Understand.
Prostitution in Kenya is illegal.
Some of the Nairobi prostitues are sex workers at day time and housewives at the night time. They come back home from sex work just before their husbands get back from their jobs.
Red Light Districts.
Koinange Street area is a Red Light District in Nairobi. There are working girls selling their body just for about 200-250 shillings (less than $3 US). Ladies in their early twenties are engaging in the practice.
Many working girls have moved to hanging around Westlands Road area as well.
Excellent Willyboy. Would add Argwings Kodhek from Kenyatta onward especially just past the first little plaza to before Yaya and then the block past Yaya. Very dark. Make a left, you will find many ready and waiting. Also, almost every hotel especially if it has a club, you will find and the night of the week determining the numbers to be found inside.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/?articleID=2000106416&story_title=Census:%20Half%20of%20Kenya%E2%80%99s%20female%20prostitutes%20are%20HIV-positive / thecounties/
I came across this in my Facebook newsfeed. Nothing to be alarmed about as this is perhaps true of prostitutes in other countries. But some may decide to pass on mongering in Kenya because of this and instead go barebacking in Asia. One of my earlier news articles I read this morning was about a white middle age British woman who met a white blok online and hooked up. They had unprotected sex because she was past childbearing capabilities and because she said,"I thought only Africans got HIV." After she and the blok broke up, she became ill and was surprised when doctor suggested she get tested for HIV. That is when she made the statement about thinking only Africans got AIDS. Her test came back positive.
Naked Gunz
06-01-14, 17:06
I don't really like hotels and tried to rent a private apt. Boy was that a mistake. Went to apt rental site and saw a 3 BR flat located in the heart of Westlands. Contacted the site and owner and arranged for the rental dates. Long story short, the owner is a nice guy and took me to lunch. Turns out he is a player too, and we exchanged info on different Afro contacts. As I told him the location of your place is great, he said "Its not in Westlands its off Jujo Rd. " Uh-oh! He took me to the place and it turned out to be in Eastleigh! WTF! How did this happen?
I double checked the advertised address and it said "W00 dvale Gr0 ve" the street Havana is on. But here I am in f*ck! Ng terrorist neighborhood. There were dozens of loud Somali kids running all over the place, and then the older kids rambling on in Amheric till into the night. Not to mention the wailing mosque just down the road. The place literally looked like he threw the tenants out just before I arrived. Dirty kitchen, clothes, no hot water-you got to be kidding me. The advertised internet turned out to be his USB drive which quicly ran out of credit. I can't believe I fell for this ghetto shit! Since we arrived so late and I was already nursing a hangover, along with nausea from eating greasy Nyma Choma, I was in no shape to move that night. I just endured it and raised hell with the website the next day.
The owner obviously put the wrong address there as bait, yeah, I bit. The website decided to charge me for only two nights since I stayed there, and thankfully did not give the owner all of it- which I would never see him again. I got off lucky. Have a trusted Kenyan check the place first. Thats my lesson.
The next day I had to find a place fast. I got a room at Pr! De! Nn for 7 nights. Did not know if its gf or not but the place IS in Westlands around the corner from Blk Diamond. But I found out afterwards that this hotel is dry. They don't sell booze and it's Muslim! My luck is really serving me this trip! So now am wondering if my "guests" will be turned away, and will the staff rat me out about my booze. I just kept a low profile the whole time and did not bring in pros to the place. A pro can recognize the potential of raising price by starting to raising hell in Muslim hotel. I was told by staff they will start selling alcohol later because everyone wants it.
Moved yet again to Reata in Parlkands. Beautiful decor. But here we go again, may as well get the hotel trifecta. I had to check -in early, and that usually means the crappy room. Sure enough, I get into the room, and there is a window in the kitchen, which leads right into the hotel kitchen! WTF! Just on the other side is banging, and dish washing and talking and laughing! All sorts of kitchen noise, like they're in the room with me! As am banging my girl later that night I hear all this shit, and they surely hear us. She don't care, and we are moaning and cursing and pumping! The hotel staff moved me the next day and were really nice about it. The only other downs I have about this place is no air con. NONE! You will be a sweaty mess after a good shag and need to keep windows open, which lets in the bugs. Wifi is weak too, as almost every other hotel I stay in.
Seems the Chinese have purchased Lenana Mount hotel just next to Reata, and might be worth a look after they finished the remodel. Names changed to protect me. Be careful out there.
both safaricom and orange offer data service in kenya, but you have to be either a kenyan citizen or resident to use orange (some agents may try to use their personal i'd to register you but you run risk of being cutoff if orange notices too many sim registrations by a given agent's name. there is no such restriction with safaricom and i like the data speeds. an alternative is to purchase a mobile hotspot to pop that sim into which would allow you to securely use multiple wifi-enabled devices. your call. i always travel with laptop, smartphone, and ipad (certain things i must do are better accomplished on each and impossible on the others). and just so i don't get this thread bogged down in mundane logistic stuff, here's a little eye candy that inspires me to visit africa sooner rather than later.Thanks for your advise, I had used my passport and got registered to Safaricom and Airtel, I have only not conformed all to send money by Mpesa, please how much are the prices for such high end ladies?
Hi,
Just have to tell you about what happened to me recently on a visit to Nairobi which may help other guys out when they meet her. To the firmly established members of our huge monger community you guys are going to laugh very loudly and say she must have seen you coming. This girl is a very smooth operator, and shows you a very willing attitude to co-operate in more ways than one. I say girl, she's just turned 23, last August the 24th, and I will give you as much detail about her as I can, so that, when you chat with her you can ask her these questions later and you'll have a good idea she's the same one I'm referring to. I arrived for my first visit to her on August 22 last year and the second visit on the 12 December supposed to return on the 3rd January to start work but ended up leaving on Christmas Eve instead.
She goes by the name of Nashipai on Afrointroductions. She lives alone in a flat in the Roysambu area just down the road from Thika Road Mall, a five minute walk away from Java, Nakumatt and Safaricom amongst other shops. She is 5'7", about 75 kgs, has a a pair of 42 DD in her bra, a gorgeous face and a scar from a supposed car accident over her left eye which is hardly noticeable, a nice pair of legs, beautiful when done up and is very well spoken and said she is a 4th year student at the Kenyan University of Law.
She met me with the usual kiss on the cheek greeting at JKI (which is the norm in Kenya or for african women in general) and on first impression I was delighted with her. Online on Afro, she appeared intelligent, funny (in the humorous sense) and a good communicator, but the one thing I was.unsure of was, I usually like to see who I want to visit on cam before I go but with her that didn't materialise so I had to put up with pics on Whatsapp till I met her personally and I can tell you I wasn't disappointed. Most of us pick up when a woman is well endowed boob wise by her pics, and she had the lot. Anyway into the car park, put the case in the boot and get in, I pulled her towards me and we kissed long and hard and she was a good kisser too. Then when we started to move I saw these tits in front of my eyes and couldn't resist, so I reached out and rubbed my hand over one, she just smiled, her dress had ridden up to mid thigh or she had intentionally done it and those legs were inviting. But there's something about rubbing a woman's tits through a padded bra that just doesn't give you the right sensation, so I decided to casually place my hand above her knee with no sort of response from her, till she said, please later, not when I'm driving, I must concentrate and I'm not doing that now. We had arranged to go to Catwalk for drinks on my arrival and then back to her flat which she said I could stay in during my two week stay and of course I offered to pay her rent for the month as it was only 15,000.
We got to Catwalk and I ordered drinks for us as she organised two high backed chairs at a table facing a wall in the pub. It wasn't at all busy in there so when the waiter bought the drinks I paid him and told him to keep the change. The two seats were pulled close together which of course led to more kissing and touching from both of us, I had my hand up her dress and fingered her pussy which was really wet as she rubbed my dick from outside my jeans. I was really hard and trying to cool it but she unzipped me and took my hard on and began to stroke my shaft, geez I was almost ready to cum but she heard the waiters steps coming and took her hand out my pants. That was a relief cause I wanted her badly and it could have ended up pretty embarrassing. We had a couple of drinks a few more kisses and then she excused herself to go to the toilet while I said I'd be outside for a smoke to calm my nerves. She came out the toilet after five or so minutes and I asked if she wanted another drink and she said no she wanted to take me home so I could fuck her, so off we went to her flat. The flat is on the third floor which is quite a trek, but the best was yet to come when we got inside, the door was padlocked and we were alone at last in a moderately furnished flat. After opening the case and giving her a couple of presents she said that can wait till morning and proceeded to lead me to the bedroom where we kissed and I unzipped her dress then unhooked her bra to produce the most magnificent pair of boobs I'd seen in a long time, it was only then I noticed she had no panties on and I passed comment on that to which she replied she'd taken them off in the toilet at Catwalk just in case I couldn't wait. Guys this was Pamela Anderson, J Lo, and the rest all rolled into one, we fell on the bed and I went straight down on her, she loved what my tongue did to her, she blew me I finger fucked her, rimmed her ass.
Which she said had never happened before to her and eventually after about twenty minutes I had to get inside her and she was tight, my bell end was getting rubbed each stroke and I was beginning to find it increasingly difficult to control not cumming but I only continued for another few minutes until I got that super sensation we all have when you know you're about to cum till I exploded inside her pussy, just after I did she also came and we lay exhausted. Man I can honestly say that she was and still is the best fuck I've ever had. I was even taken to meet the family which means.
Something totally different in that culture.
The worst is yet to come though. Even after all the presents and stuff all I would ever get was a continual oh I like that and expect me to buy it for her. I left for home the first week in September and all was well between us. We continued communicating but there was this strange thing we had.
Between us, it was like telepathy, if something was wrong with me she seemed to sense it and vice versa but each time I'd ask her what's the problem she'd say it was college and studies. Anyhow, I arranged to go in December just past, to spend Christmas with her and she told me she was graduating on the 19th and her parents were having a party for her at their other place in Nyeri. Now Nyeri is about 150 k's away from Nairobi and I couldn't understand why they'd hold it there when most of the family and friends stayed in Nairobi. Anyway it ended up we had a huge argument after we'd gone to Nyeri to see the parents about the party on the Monday prior to the party, where I ended up been the provider for the food etc and I was pissed off only later realising I'd been set up. Then at night she always slept with her phone at the side of her pillow, and I found out by pretending to sleep that she was chatting to whoever under the covers, until I lost it and said, if you want to do that get up and do it in the lounge. Then another night at 2:04 am her phone rang and she thought I was asleep, I saw her look at the phone and decline the call. I asked her in the morning to bring her phone and she asked why, I said I wanted to know who it was that called her at that time of the morning and she refused to let me see who it was. So them the whole scenario had changed from three months back. It all ended on Christmas eve when she demanded I buy her a pizza so we could eat it on the way to Nyeri. I said to her I'm not going to Nyeri with you I'm staying here in Nairobi to which she went ballistic. So I drove to the stage told her to get out and get a matatu to Nyeri and I would be on my own. That was the last I saw of her. Then I found her laptop on when I got to the flat and of course out came the truth. To say I was one of three is a lie but this is how this girl finances her schooling / college and her parents and siblings by extracting the money from all the guys she's been fucking. So that's where the story ends for me and begins for her.
Should any of you guys want to contact her here's the number [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] will answer. Don't tell her where you got her number from just tell her a friend of a friend gave it to you and when you'd seen her pics you are very interested. As I said you won't be disappointed with her at all and if you are then there's definitely something wrong with you. This is just a bit of pay back from me to her. I'll get more than my 5 grand back that I spent on her from you guys telling me how you got on with her.
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LustyHombre
02-06-15, 12:23
Nothing to be ashamed of and Thanks for sharing, Bob Black!
While you don't seem to complain about her sexual performance, you make it read like you were somehow expecting her be a virtuous virgin.
If she really were that, I am sure you wouldn't have had a fraction of the fun you actually experienced.
5 G for 3 or 4 weeks of mind blowing sex isn't bad at all, at least not in my books.
Live & Learn & Enjoy!
Soon Kenya will only give out electronic visa.
It seems they have decided to give a final blow to tourism, (Look what happened to Senegal).
Kenya INTRODUCES MANDATORY ONLINE VISA APPLICATIONS.
Starting from 2nd July 2015, the government of Kenya will introduce electronic visa application. Tourists wishing to visit Kenya need to apply as follows: Visit the electronic visa page at www.ecitizen.go.ke.
Select Register as a Visitor.
As part of this process, you will receive a confirmation email that you need to click on to verify and confirm your registration.
At this point, you will be asked to UPLOAD A DIGITAL PASSPORT PHOTO (Maximum size 500 px by 500 px).
Once logged in, select Department of Immigration Services.
Select Submit Application.
Select Kenyan Visa.
Select the type of visa (visitor) and read the instructions carefully.
Complete the application form please note that incomplete applications will berejected and you will lose your processing fees.
You will need a scan of the main page of your passport (with your name, date of birth and other information).
You will need to re-upload your passport photo.
Pay using your Visa card, MasterCard or other debit card.
Await your approval which will be sent to you by email. This could take up to 7 days so ensure that you plan in advance.
Once you have received the email advising that your visa is approved, log back into your ecitizen account and download your visa.
Print a copy of your visa to present to the immigration officer at your point of entry into Kenya.
Some things to remember:
The visa process takes up to one week and must be completed in advance.
You will need a scan of your passport and passport photo.
Approval and issuance of the visa does not guarantee entry into Kenya.
Any form of business or employment on a visitor's visa is an offence.
As the introduction of this visa process was only announced a few days ago, there is a two month grace period whereby visas can still be purchased on arrival. This grace period expires on 31 August 2015.
You are right, they are chasing away the last remaining tourists, but maybe they don't need them. They have oil LOL. I don't know what sense it makes. Of course all in the name of fighting the bad terrorists.
They have plenty of pics and fingerprints of me in the system. I am not goint to apply in advance. F. Them. I liked Kenya bcause of the hassle free procedures. Extension of visa another 3 months.
And thereafter a small gift to Immigration fictitious entry exit stamp and you were good for another 6 Months.
Tempo passado. I will switch my venue to Tanzania and Uganda.
PS They dont need to prevent the bad guys to enter the country, they are already there...., most of them Kenyans anyway, and the rest comes over the porous border
from Somalia.... They wont apply for bioVisa...... Just went to Madagascar, here you get a good old Visa STAMP in your Passport, they do take fingerprints.
Tempo passado. I will switch my venue to Tanzania and Uganda.
That's exactly what I was thinking about also.
My experiences with Ugandan ladies make me very curious about Uganda and Dar is at least as good as North Coast, or maybe even better. (less hard cores) .
New visa system.
To match expats staying for more than 3 months. This expats paying money for new stamp in passport. (black money).
SceticoBlu
07-28-15, 15:21
I talked to the Kenyan embassy in my country. They hand out the visa within 4 days.
Requirements: 40 euro, passport, additional photo, route intinery, envelope with stamp for redirecting passport.
Therfore I avoid filling in my visacard number on this newly made Kenyan internetsite and go to the embassy in August. Flight will be in September.
New visa system.
To match expats staying for more than 3 months. This expats paying money for new stamp in passport. (black money).At Willyboy.
After 3 months you can get an extension at immigration for an other 3 month for KSh. 2000, Then you should leave the country to get a new visa (visa run). It happened that this was avoided.
With a bought stamp. But the Kenyan state got still the 50 $ visa fee because of the visa label. So now the guest in Kenya has mandatorily to exit the country after 6 months and will maybe opt for the.
Residence which costs around 120'000, KSh. All inclusive for pensioners and 230'000, for the others incl. Work permit. Or he will leave the country for other pastures. Black money you have to pay.
Anyway to speed up the procedure. And if an application is stalled and they attribute it to you, you loose the amount prepaid. To go to court for it, is an other headache and loss of money.
SceticoBlu
08-05-15, 08:01
The 2014 post of Naked Gunz suggests it is better not to book on the internet and see the apartments in advance. So I could do this and when I was in Nairobi this year I saw some of interesting private offers for example in the Nakumatts.
The question is: Do they accept you cancel the contract after a 2-3 day trial period, and do they return the deposit, in case you find out the apartment is noisy at night or in case of other disturbances you are not aware of having visited the apartmens on daytime? Or do they keep a considerable amount of the deposit in the case of premature cancelling of the contract?
Hello all,
It seems that there's very little going on in Kenya these days and I was wondering if the Visa story has anything to do with it or was that just put in place because of Obama visiting the country. Is all that paraphernalia still in place forever now or has it been relaxed back to the $50 at Nairobi. I'm heading that way at the beginning of October and wonder if anyone has gone there not knowing about the new Visa rules and what happened to them in that situation. I'm going down to Mombasa this time, it's a much better holiday option.
Than Nairobi IMHO. Anything new down that way since my last visit in December? Decent places to go where there's plenty mongering. I'm staying in Cowrie Beach so anything near.
There will be good to know about.
CaptainSxe
08-15-15, 11:05
Hello Bob,
Are you talking above Cowrie Shell Beach Apartments? If it is then; is the hotel girl friendly? For your information the daily rate is 7000 KES but I already e-mailed with the manager of Hotel and he offered %15 discount to me. I will be in there end of September.
Hello all,
It seems that there's very little going on in Kenya these days and I was wondering if the Visa story has anything to do with it or was that just put in place because of Obama visiting the country. Is all that paraphernalia still in place forever now or has it been relaxed back to the $50 at Nairobi. I'm heading that way at the beginning of October and wonder if anyone has gone there not knowing about the new Visa rules and what happened to them in that situation. I'm going down to Mombasa this time, it's a much better holiday option.
Than Nairobi IMHO. Anything new down that way since my last visit in December? Decent places to go where there's plenty mongering. I'm staying in Cowrie Beach so anything near.
There will be good to know about.
Hello Bob,
Are you talking above Cowrie Shell Beach Apartments? If it is then; is the hotel girl friendly? For your information the daily rate is 7000 KES but I already e-mailed with the manager of Hotel and he offered %15 discount to me. I will be in there end of September.I am talking about Cowrie and I will also communicate with them. I have to confirm dates though because of work commitments. I don't know if it will be girl friendly and I am.
Booking Cowrie for two people anyway so I don't see any problem. Once the guards know you there shouldn't be a problem. Stay in touch and tell us how you get on.
CaptainSxe
08-20-15, 18:28
I am talking about Cowrie and I will also communicate with them. I have to confirm dates though because of work commitments. I don't know if it will be girl friendly and I am.
Booking Cowrie for two people anyway so I don't see any problem. Once the guards know you there shouldn't be a problem. Stay in touch and tell us how you get on.I have same idea, if I book apartment for two people, no one can not ask. We will see it. After 30th of August Kenya will not give paper visa in airport any more. So I already applied and got my visa online. I applied visa today and they confirmed my visa today, they are really fast. The visa costs me 51 USD.
SceticoBlu
08-21-15, 08:13
After 30th of August Kenya will not give paper visa in airport any more. So I already applied and got my visa online. I applied visa today and they confirmed my visa today, they are really fast. The visa costs me 51 USD.Congratulation. I applied 9 days ago and have not gotten any reaction so far.
All this after the kenyan embassy in my country had confirmed me some weeks ago it is still possible to get the visa through them and later neglected it.
SceticoBlu
08-21-15, 17:00
After writing an email to the support I got the visa finally.
I have traveled / lived in Kenya off and on for 15 years. I was a little concerned with the new online visa application, but after setting up an account and going through the process I received my visa in under 4 days. Was quite a surprise after all my other dealings with Kenyan Government seemed to take forever. I wish you all the luck I had dealing with the visa process.
Bulik
Visa on arrival is extended till 31st October.
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/2015/08/24/kenya-speeds-up-visa-application-process-and-extends-visas-on-arrival/
Lets see what happens after, this e visa thing is never going to work. Senegal just stopped with that BS.
Rgrds.
Neddy.
Kenya giving again visa by arrive.
Visa on arrival is extended till 31st October.
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/2015/08/24/kenya-speeds-up-visa-application-process-and-extends-visas-on-arrival/
Lets see what happens after, this e visa thing is never going to work. Senegal just stopped with that BS.
Rgrds.
Neddy.I have done E visa twice now since it was implemented and seemed to work very well. I have a visa in my email within 3 days printed it out, no more lines or filling out applications at the arrival area no more. Done in the comfort of my office!
Bulik
Hello,
Am a local girl here though am well traveled. Except when terrorist group was hitting Kenya sometimes back, it has been safe for everyone. The terrorists, alshabab used to target people near their border and remote towns like Garrisa which isn't good. I saw security is a major concern to most foreigners and hence as a local, I know what goes on here. Just avoid walking in remote places alone, walking at night and never bribe policemen, it is illegal unless he himself is asking meaningless cash.
If they go to extreme, tell them to take you to their boss, OCPD or call police headquarters, no one is corrupt there. [Deleted by Admin]
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Am a local girl here though am well traveled. Except when terrorist group was hitting Kenya sometimes back, it has been safe for everyone. The terrorists, alshabab used to target people near their border and remote towns like Garrisa which isn't good. I saw security is a major concern to most foreigners and hence as a local, I know what goes on here. Just avoid walking in remote places alone, walking at night and never bribe policemen, it is illegal unless he himself is asking meaningless cash.
If they go to extreme, tell them to take you to their boss, OCPD or call police headquarters, no one is corrupt there.
....If they go to extreme, tell them to take you to their boss, OCPD or call police headquarters, no one is corrupt there.
Ha ha ha ha. Very funny!
So why endless Muzungus coming to Kenya many years before, are now no more coming?
All People in Kenya are more or less corrupt. When you get robbed the Girl / the Staff from the Hotel / the manager / the police. All work togheter to get the Money from the last Tourist, stupid enough to visit Kenya again. The Girls are very nice, but it's not worth the risk anymore.
Tom Mabuhay
12-13-15, 08:36
Kenya giving again visa by arrive.After a short period of e-visa only, the VOA (visa on arrival) and even the visa via embassy is back.
At least according to the website information of Kenyan embassies.
I also hope you dislike the huge difference in non resident / resident fees paid by Non Europeans studying in European universities (Resident £ 3000 vrs Non Resident £11,000 per year).
The second thing I dislike is the huge difference in resident / non-resident fees to enjoy the natiional parks.!
I also hope you dislike the huge difference in non resident / resident fees paid by Non Europeans studying in European universities (Resident 3000 vrs Non Resident 11,000 per year).Why do you need to come to European Universities in the first place and pay all that money. Don't blame Europe for that.
Having been to National Parks similar to that of Kenya, I found they also charge more money for tourists than they do for locals.
It's a case of take it or leave it.
I also hope you dislike the huge difference in non resident / resident fees paid by Non Europeans studying in European universities (Resident 3000 vrs Non Resident 11,000 per year).You are comparing apples to oranges. Practically every country feature situation of residents paying more in tuition than non residents. I was comparing the USA National park system to that of various African countries. In America, there is no difference in price for residents and non residents whereas that is not the case in Africa. I was merely pointing out what rubbed me the wrong way. I still visit Africa but I am judicious in my choice of venues. So yes, I do take it or leave it. That is okay by me.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Practically every country feature situation of residents paying more in tuition than non residents. I was comparing the USA National park system to that of various African countries. In America, there is no difference in price for residents and non residents whereas that is not the case in Africa. I was merely pointing out what rubbed me the wrong way. I still visit Africa but I am judicious in my choice of venues. So yes, I do take it or leave it. That is okay by me.Should read, Practically every country features a situation of non residents paying more than residents.
Should read, Practically every country features a situation of non residents paying more than residents.I did state that but actually most African countries feature a multi tier charge scheme: citizens pay the least followed by residents followed by neighboring country citizens followed by non African tourists. Of course, children and students pay the least of all. I just choose to go to zoo since Nat Geo Wild has captured way more cool wildlife goings on than the typical safari tourist will ever see.
Naked Gunz
03-08-16, 03:27
Kenya giving again visa by arrive.Is there still Visa on arrival for US citizen, or do I do this E Visa crap?
There were so many complaints from travel companies that they restored the visa-on-arrival within weeks. You can still apply electronically, but last month at NBO airport there was just one person ahead of me in the queue for a paper visa.
SceticoBlu
03-08-16, 13:00
For Mombasa this January I did not have the evisa, just gave them 40 euro and filled out a form, no long waiting at the Moi airport at all.
Naked Gunz
03-08-16, 23:54
There were so many complaints from travel companies that they restored the visa-on-arrival within weeks. You can still apply electronically, but last month at NBO airport there was just one person ahead of me in the queue for a paper visa.
For Mombasa this January I did not have the evisa, just gave them 40 euro and filled out a form, no long waiting at the Moi airport at all.Ok thanks you guys for the reply.
Is there still Visa on arrival for US citizen, or do I do this E Visa crap?The e visa is quite easy to apply for. I had two separate layovers (16 hrs & 26 hrs respectively), and I obtained 2 separate transit e visas which cost a total of $42 USD ($21 each). The approval was automatic after I clicked submit and paid using credit card. Kenya also offers 5 year multiple entry visa for American bloks for $200. I have made over 10 visits to Kenya in past 5 years, so this 5 year multiple entry visa will definitely save me some dough (previous 6 month multiple entry visa cost $100 and visa on arrival cost $50)!
I am a first time poster here (though a longtime lurker).
I've just left Nairobi after a couple of years there (will probably be back to visit often). I met a girl there that I feel you guys should know about.
I am married but my marriage is loveless. We have sex, we co-parent, but there is no love / intimacy. I am the kind of man that needs that stuff. I got on OKCupid intentionally looking for a potential mistress (never been one for one-off sex) and came across this one girl.
We talked back and forth a lot. I consider myself an intellectual, and she challenged me. Great conversation, interesting opinions, all that. We eventually agreed to meet up. She's. How can I describe it? Built like an Amazon. Tall, a few extra pounds, soft but not fat, AMAZING legs, very well-dressed. Sometimes I would see fellow expats out with local girls and feel embarrassed for them. Not so with her, I actually felt lucky to be seen with her! She was very polished and put together (really could have put my wife to shame, honestly). We talked some more, and made it a regular arrangement to meet weekly at Artcaffe (innocent, daytime). I eventually got too consumed with her (remember I am a man starved for affection) and asked her to go on a quick getaway with me (Naivasha, we stayed at Enashipai). She agreed but only if I'd get her a separate room. I consented (somehow this made me want her more?) We went, had a great time, a bit like GFE (but I had paid her nothing at this point, apart from covering date bills), couples massages, long walks, all that. The first evening, I walked her to her door and she said I could come in if I promised not to try any "funny business". I did, and I found that she had unpacked her woman things (I don't know how else to describe it) on the dresser. Lotions, make up things, and 3 bottles of perfume (she's a little obsessed with perfume). A lacy bra on the bed. And a candle in the bathroom. I have never seen a woman so completely feminine every space she occupies, it's intoxicating. She has been the main subject of my "alone time" with my guy downstairs for months now. And I have never even kissed her(she does kiss the cheek in greeting, though). I could really ramble on about her but I won't. Suffice to say I was never really able to "initiate" with her, for many reasons, including:
I apparently cannot cheat on my cold wife.
I felt overwhelmingly like I didn't deserve her.
Anyway, we did talk a lot and this is what I know about her:
- has lived in Britain, South Africa and Canada.
- well educated abroad.
- life fell apart in 2013, 2014 (long story but family fortune lost).
- not the most responsible with money (probably a result of growing up with a lot, she's more clueless than reckless with money).
- currently lives with parents (in Karen) as couldn't keep up with her rent.
- very proud but needs money, and will take it in exchange for company (maybe more? I wouldn't know) after some coaxing.
- gives incredible back rubs.
I know you all think I'm a sucker for not banging or trying to, but I got what I needed (companionship and affection) and I don't even think she understood that she was giving me that. I wrote here because I do care for the girl and think she'd make a nice sugar baby or mistress for someone (she's getting a little frustrated money-wise). We talked about it casually and she joked about needing a knight in shining armor. I was putting some money in her account monthly for the last 5 months of 2015. She was always available to talk, and could come and meet me weekly for our standing date, and monthly for a weekend away (sometimes a weekend in a hotel in Nairobi, something she called a stay-cation).
Is there still Visa on arrival for US citizen, or do I do this E Visa crap?Yes you can still get a visa at the airport as usual or you can get it online at eCitizen. Co. Ke.
I am a first time poster here (though a longtime lurker).
I've just left Nairobi after a couple of years there (will probably be back to visit often). I met a girl there that I feel you guys should know about.
I am married but my marriage is loveless. We have sex, we co-parent, but there is no love / intimacy. I am the kind of man that needs that stuff. I got on OKCupid intentionally looking for a potential mistress (never been one for one-off sex) and came across this one girl.
We talked back and forth a lot. I consider myself an intellectual, and she challenged me. Great conversation, interesting opinions, all that. We eventually agreed to meet up. She's. How can I describe it? Built like an Amazon. Tall, a few extra pounds, soft but not fat, AMAZING legs, very well-dressed. Sometimes I would see fellow expats out with local girls and feel embarrassed for them. Not so with her, I actually felt lucky to be seen with her! She was very polished and put together (really could have put my wife to shame, honestly). We talked some more, and made it a regular arrangement to meet weekly at Artcaffe (innocent, daytime). I eventually got too consumed with her (remember I am a man starved for affection) and asked her to go on a quick getaway with me (Naivasha, we stayed at Enashipai). She agreed but only if I'd get her a separate room. I consented (somehow this made me want her more?) We went, had a great time, a bit like GFE (but I had paid her nothing at this point, apart from covering date bills), couples massages, long walks, all that. The first evening, I walked her to her door and she said I could come in if I promised not to try any "funny business". I did, and I found that she had unpacked her woman things (I don't know how else to describe it) on the dresser. Lotions, make up things, and 3 bottles of perfume (she's a little obsessed with perfume). A lacy bra on the bed. And a candle in the bathroom. I have never seen a woman so completely feminine every space she occupies, it's intoxicating. She has been the main subject of my "alone time" with my guy downstairs for months now. And I have never even kissed her(she does kiss the cheek in greeting, though). I could really ramble on about her but I won't. Suffice to say I was never really able to "initiate" with her, for many reasons, including:.Quite interesting but description sounds very familiar.
Quite interesting but description sounds very familiar.Description of the woman? On what level: familiar like you might know her socially, or like you might have encountered her while 'mongering'?
I doubt highly that she could be 'pro' on any level, she just didn't come off like that to me. She never floated the idea of me giving her any money, and protested a lot; I offered to do it after she sold her car for some cash, as that seems like a panic move, and I didn't like seeing her stressed. She was so opposed to it, and was initially offended by the idea. I had to explain to her that the money was pocket change to me, but she could use it. When she eventually came around, she would buy me little presents with it as well (for her conscience, I think): you know, colognes, a money clip, a very nice 2016 planner, that kind of thing. Threw all of it away (it would have set my wife's alarm bells off) but thought it was a classy move. When she found out I was married, she wouldn't talk to me for nearly a week, and when she finally gave me audience she had this look on her face like she couldn't believe me. She did soften after I explained the state of my marriage but I think she had a lot of guilt about it still.
In my (small) experience on OKCupid, so many of these girls and women in Nairobi are falling over themselves to be with a white guy and fleece him for all he's worth. Sending nude pics unbidden, offering raw sex on the first date, I would say "I'm married, by the way" and they would say it wasn't a problem, they can be discreet. THEY would float the idea of some kind of payment / stipend ("I need money for school, can you help me?" "I need money for rent, can you help me?" "My mother is sick, can you help me? I never got this from her. I picked up on her struggles myself and she only opened up about it a bit at a time, with no expectations or requests.
I think her only expectation of me was that I would pay for our dates (which I liked. When I was dating, I hated engaging in that debate over who should pay with women who wanted to split or cover the bill).
I'm a little worried that I may have ruined her reputation (if you know her personally) by pretty much pimping her out on here, so I would like to assure you that she never gave me the impression that she was some kind of professional sex worker or similar.
Description of the woman? On what level: familiar like you might know her socially, or like you might have encountered her while 'mongering'?
I'm a little worried that I may have ruined her reputation (if you know her personally) by pretty much pimping her out on here, so I would like to assure you that she never gave me the impression that she was some kind of professional sex worker or similar.A sex worker would give some sex. As she didn't have sex with you she might not qualify as sex worker, let's put it this way. She is one level up.
Description of the woman? On what level: familiar like you might know her socially, or like you might have encountered her while 'mongering'?
I doubt highly that she could be 'pro' on any level, she just didn't come off like that to me. She never floated the idea of me giving her any money, and protested a lot; I offered to do it after she sold her car for some cash, as that seems like a panic move, and I didn't like seeing her stressed. She was so opposed to it, and was initially offended by the idea. I had to explain to her that the money was pocket change to me, but she could use it. When she eventually came around, she would buy me little presents with it as well (for her conscience, I think): you know, colognes, a money clip, a very nice 2016 planner, that kind of thing. Threw all of it away (it would have set my wife's alarm bells off) but thought it was a classy move. When she found out I was married, she wouldn't talk to me for nearly a week, and when she finally gave me audience she had this look on her face like she couldn't believe me. She did soften after I explained the state of my marriage but I think she had a lot of guilt about it still..I wouldn't worry about ruining her reputation, you have nothing to be ashamed of, as you are only stating your feelings for this lady. I was in a similar situation and although it didn't work out for me it doesn't mean it won't for you. I don't go to Kenya to monger, I already have a partner there whom I met like you online and we are both very happy with our arrangement. She is straight, a great laugh to be with, not too demanding (just needs to be brought back into line at times like most women), fantastic looking (to me), and I couldn't ask for a better companion. I also support her and even though many will laugh at that I can assure you I am not the only one on this site that does that. I don't feel ashamed, and, like you, I am proud to be seen out with her. So, all I say is good luck to you and do what your heart and head tell you to do. It's your life, irrespective of your current situation with your wife, and once again I would be very surprised if there are not many more on this site living in the same situation as you. They stay in a broken marriage because it's become a bad habit, going through the motions without sex, either because it no longer interests either of them or because they're scared to break up for fear of what friends and family will think of them. I was also in a lifeless marriage and got out because it was killing me and turning me into someone I didn't want to be. You know they say life is too short and that is fact, get out and enjoy it while you still can as none of us know what the future holds in store for us. Good luck and if this lady means so much to you (which she obviously does) go get her and forget what other people will think.
SceticoBlu
04-19-16, 08:31
What are the good places in Africa for the white guy mongering that don't need Yellow fever treatment etc?When you go to Kenya for the first time your choice should be Mombasa and Nairobi. You will find girls everywhere in Kenya but in those two places you have enough infrastructure and most tourists go there. And you don't have to worry about yellowfever there. The vaccination itself is not a bit thing, it is not very expensive. Some people get symptoms similar to a light flue for 1-2 days, that's all. According to the WHO map in the western half of Kenya you should have the vaccination.
Description of the woman? On what level: familiar like you might know her socially, or like you might have encountered her while 'mongering'?
I doubt highly that she could be 'pro' on any level, she just didn't come off like that to me. She never floated the idea of me giving her any money, and protested a lot; I offered to do it after she sold her car for some cash, as that seems like a panic move, and I didn't like seeing her stressed. She was so opposed to it, and was initially offended by the idea. I had to explain to her that the money was pocket change to me, but she could use it. When she eventually came around, she would buy me little presents with it as well (for her conscience, I think): you know, colognes, a money clip, a very nice 2016 planner, that kind of thing. Threw all of it away (it would have set my wife's alarm bells off) but thought it was a classy move. When she found out I was married, she wouldn't talk to me for nearly a week, and when she finally gave me audience she had this look on her face like she couldn't believe me. She did soften after I explained the state of my marriage but I think she had a lot of guilt about it still.
In my (small) experience on OKCupid, so many of these girls and women in Nairobi are falling over themselves to be with a white guy and fleece him for all he's worth. Sending nude pics unbidden, offering raw sex on the first date, I would say "I'm married, by the way" and they would say it wasn't a problem, they can be discreet. THEY would float the idea of some kind of payment / stipend ("I need money for school, can you help me?" "I need money for rent, can you help me?" "My mother is sick, can you help me? I never got this from her. I picked up on her struggles myself and she only opened up about it a bit at a time, with no expectations or requests.
I think her only expectation of me was that I would pay for our dates (which I liked. When I was dating, I hated engaging in that debate over who should pay with women who wanted to split or cover the bill).
I'm a little worried that I may have ruined her reputation (if you know her personally) by pretty much pimping her out on here, so I would like to assure you that she never gave me the impression that she was some kind of professional sex worker or similar.Please please please P, be careful with this one. You are likely been led down the garden path. I am going to say something and pray that I turn out completely wrong. How I wish I am wrong on this but I have a sneaky feeling that I am not.
I feel for you. I amy be very wrong, but I think though she comes across as an innocent girl who is looking for prince charming and all, I am almost sure that woman is not a virgin and she is getting it on with several Kenyan boyfriends who know that you have taken her out to some lush hotel and did not hit it and they had a good laugh about it. She pulls you into her room and has conveniently left her bra on the bed: she gives you all the come-ONS and then you just listen to her, "no funny business" BS and you just let it slide? And I am not sure she lives with her parents in Karen. I doubt that. Have you indeed met her parents? She was probably been thrown out by her "husband" and is a floater. End of crystal ball reading.
Since I consider that you have already cheated on your wife by going out to a hotel with her so just screw her and be done with it. If I take a girl to Enashipai, I do not even screw her. She MUST screw me to death!
Please please please P, be careful with this one. You are likely been led down the garden path. I am going to say something and pray that I turn out completely wrong. How I wish I am wrong on this but I have a sneaky feeling that I am not.
I feel for you. I amy be very wrong, but I think though she comes across as an innocent girl who is looking for prince charming and all, I am almost sure that woman is not a virgin and she is getting it on with several Kenyan boyfriends who know that you have taken her out to some lush hotel and did not hit it and they had a good laugh about it. She pulls you into her room and has conveniently left her bra on the bed: she gives you all the come-ONS and then you just listen to her, "no funny business" BS and you just let it slide? And I am not sure she lives with her parents in Karen. I doubt that. Have you indeed met her parents? She was probably been thrown out by her "husband" and is a floater. End of crystal ball reading.
Since I consider that you have already cheated on your wife by going out to a hotel with her so just screw her and be done with it. If I take a girl to Enashipai, I do not even screw her. She MUST screw me to death!Hey man,
I was actually back in Nairobi last week, and got together with her for coffee and catching up. She has ended up throwing in the towel with her business (she's been trying to do freelance brand management, image consultancy type of things) and applied for consulting work with the Big 4 and McKinsey. Has 2 offers now and is waiting to hear back from another. Gutsy girl. She got the offer in writing from one company, and presented it to another and asked them to top it. She wanted me to look at the offer and let her know if she should be asking for anything else (in terms of perks). I didn't think so. Anyway, it looks like she's getting her act together on her own. She's lost some weight, I saw, but I can never tell in Kenya whether that is a sign of things going well or things going badly ha ha ha.
Re: the bra. I don't know, I have had women do a lot of contrived things to seduce me before I got married (no, I'm not that hot, but money talks ha ha), but this didn't seem orchestrated at all. Personality-wise, she is kind of a nerd, into politics and business, not really the kind of person I can see taking pains to portray herself as sexy. She kind of just happens to be sexy. I think because she's very confident. She was a little late to our date and when she came in, I noticed people's eyes drift to her, but she never notices it. I can't tell if she knows how much sex appeal she has. Or if she deliberately behaves like she doesn't? Regardless, she has it down to an art.
Re: living with her parents, I did my due diligence. I had my driver drop her off a couple of times and he reported back that it was indeed Karen and a nice area, the home had security staff, etc. I follow her on social media and her pictures and videos show that she does live at home. Very wholesome, always cooking things with her mom, you know the type.
You can probably tell I'm still very attracted to her. BobBlack above advised me to go for it with her, and I had thought about proposing an 'arrangement' when we met up, because I am financially able to set her up with an apartment / car / allowance etc. But she is not as vulnerable as the last time I saw her, and certainly won't be needing money in a short while. I think she would be insulted by the idea. And then I wouldn't even be able to keep her as a friend. So I let it slide. She brought me a little note and present as well ("thank you for all your help. You're a star" and a Tom Ford Private Blend, which I'm keeping). Fuck, a part of me almost hopes she doesn't secure a position so I can swoop in and save the day, but that's selfishness talking.
Anyway, I did pick up a girl while I was there. Things are pretty bad with my wife since the move, and I was reeling from meeting the other girl, so I picked up one of those loose girls always hanging around the pool at Sankara. Ethiopian or Somali looking, but said her name was Natasha (obvious BS). I covered a round of drinks for her friends and we went to my room, she blew me but I couldn't manage to follow through with sex. I gave her USD 100 "to get a cab". She said she needed more to get home. This made me angry because it wouldn't cost more than KES 5 k to get anywhere from anywhere but whatever. So I gave her a 50 which was all I had left in my wallet and I told her as much. She said thanks. And was at the bar when I went back down for a drink, talking to another man. Ugh. I don't think I have the stomach for this kind of thing.
Hey man,
I was actually back in Nairobi last week, and got together with her for coffee and catching up. She has ended up throwing in the towel with her business (she's been trying to do freelance brand management, image consultancy type of things) and applied for consulting work with the Big 4 and McKinsey. Has 2 offers now and is waiting to hear back from another. Gutsy girl. She got the offer in writing from one company, and presented it to another and asked them to top it. She wanted me to look at the offer and let her know if she should be asking for anything else (in terms of perks). I didn't think so. Anyway, it looks like she's getting her act together on her own. She's lost some weight, I saw, but I can never tell in Kenya whether that is a sign of things going well or things going badly ha ha ha.
Re: the bra. I don't know, I have had women do a lot of contrived things to seduce me before I got married (no, I'm not that hot, but money talks ha ha), but this didn't seem orchestrated at all. Personality-wise, she is kind of a nerd, into politics and business, not really the kind of person I can see taking pains to portray herself as sexy. She kind of just happens to be sexy. I think because she's very confident. She was a little late to our date and when she came in, I noticed people's eyes drift to her, but she never notices it. I can't tell if she knows how much sex appeal she has. Or if she deliberately behaves like she doesn't? Regardless, she has it down to an art.
Re: living with her parents, I did my due diligence. I had my driver drop her off a couple of times and he reported back that it was indeed Karen and a nice area, the home had security staff, etc. I follow her on social media and her pictures and videos show that she does live at home. Very wholesome, always cooking things with her mom, you know the type.
You can probably tell I'm still very attracted to her. BobBlack above advised me to go for it with her, and I had thought about proposing an 'arrangement' when we met up, because I am financially able to set her up with an apartment / car / allowance etc. But she is not as vulnerable as the last time I saw her, and certainly won't be needing money in a short while. I think she would be insulted by the idea. And then I wouldn't even be able to keep her as a friend. So I let it slide. She brought me a little note and present as well ("thank you for all your help. You're a star" and a Tom Ford Private Blend, which I'm keeping). Fuck, a part of me almost hopes she doesn't secure a position so I can swoop in and save the day, but that's selfishness talking.
Anyway, I did pick up a girl while I was there. Things are pretty bad with my wife since the move, and I was reeling from meeting the other girl, so I picked up one of those loose girls always hanging around the pool at Sankara. Ethiopian or Somali looking, but said her name was Natasha (obvious BS). I covered a round of drinks for her friends and we went to my room, she blew me but I couldn't manage to follow through with sex. I gave her USD 100 "to get a cab". She said she needed more to get home. This made me angry because it wouldn't cost more than KES 5 k to get anywhere from anywhere but whatever. So I gave her a 50 which was all I had left in my wallet and I told her as much. She said thanks. And was at the bar when I went back down for a drink, talking to another man. Ugh. I don't think I have the stomach for this kind of thing.Cheers. Glad it is well with her. Wishing her all the best in her new job. You have a good heart, man. Hoping you will always run into people that can meet you halfway on that. On my part I am a bit of a cynic, I think. I am one to believe that any woman can have the angel side and the not so good side. For this woman, I believe you have the angel side.
Naked Gunz
05-13-16, 16:46
Hmmm, I might have to find another African hunting grounds. Uganda maybe, or Rawanda?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36270281
Hmmm, I might have to find another African hunting grounds. Uganda maybe, or Rawanda?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36270281Depends if you want to holiday there or for an extended stay. I personally love ugandan chicas, but every day rain and thunderstorms, I don't know.
Kigali might be ok, spoke to some people, helps to speak french though very easy and cheap to get residence gorgeous tall tutsi chicas.
Hard choice. Probably Tanzania would be the best replacement, its on the sea, chicas widely available not so spoiled.
54 countries to choose from.
Naked Gunz
05-14-16, 16:15
Depends if you want to holiday there or for an extended stay. I personally love ugandan chicas, but every day rain and thunderstorms, I don't know.Kigali might be ok, spoke to some people, helps to speak french though very easy and cheap to get residence gorgeous tall tutsi chicas. Hard choice. Probably Tanzania would be the best replacement, its on the sea, chicas widely available not so spoiled.54 countries to choose from.At the end of the day I need to just go somewhere and decide if I like or not. Ghana is the preferred choice, but the visa has been an issue, as I can't send my passport anywhere, and getting a plane ticket an issue too. French in Rawanda? Thought was English speaking.
At the end of the day I need to just go somewhere and decide if I like or not. Ghana is the preferred choice, but the visa has been an issue, as I can't send my passport anywhere, and getting a plane ticket an issue too. French in Rawanda? Thought was English speaking.It really depends on what you want to do. If your thing is to pick up a young lady and keep her for a few days and you can put up with the nonsense, possibly Uganda is your place. Personally I cannot take the constant pressure to become a permanent item and the complete lack of education.
If you prefer the option of having a provider where the deed happens on-site, then Uganda does not have many offerings.
Kenya is probably much better for most. Especially on the coast, there are plenty of pros and semi-pros around. What has changed is that the Kenya coast no longer is as easy as it used to be. The traffic out of Mombassa is really terrible. For me this rules out staying in Nyali and hitting Casa Blanca / Florida (whichever it was where you could do the girl on-site) during the day. I am also quite surprised that the massage places I tried in Nyali or further north did not provide HJ or anything else. My previous experience in Kenya was that HJ at the very least was on offer in any massage place. It seems that many of the girls will go back to your hotel later for FS but no way will they do HJ. Seems to be some sort of new rule but not sure who enforces it.
Rwanda has never struck me as a natural home of the mongerer. Yes, there are a couple of places in Kigali where you can get a freelancer and I remember having a HJ in a Kigali massage once, but the pickings are rather limited. As in neighbouring countries you can quite easily find a girlfriend but they will haunt you even online for a long time after. I am still getting emails expressing deep love from a semi-pro I met in Diani Beach over 9 months ago and I never once replied to her emails.
I never had a problem with French in Rwanda. But outside Kigali I was never able to find either a freelancer or a massage with extras.
Unless you really have a thing about African girls, I really don't understand why anyone would choose East or West Africa over Thailand, Cambodia or Vietnam where the hobby is much easier to practise.
Naked Gunz
05-15-16, 03:22
Unless you really have a thing about African girls, I really don't understand why anyone would choose East or West Africa over Thailand, Cambodia or Vietnam where the hobby is much easier to practise.Friend, I think you need to review the Kenya photo section again. You just don't find phat asses a dime a dozen in Asia. Here is a sample of what I look for high and low in Nairobi- and I don't have to look too hard. Sounds like you don't have phat ass fever. That with a decent rack and face makes for a good trip in Nairobi, though I know I have to tolerate the lack of creature comforts. I'm tired of the millions of tourists in Pattaya (yes I know I should venture out). Never been to Cambo, Viet, Laos. I used to work with many beautiful Lao women in California, fuckin georgeous!
Thanks for the intel, I really appreciate it. One look at the post counts for all these countries simply tells the story that much less is going on. That girl is still emailing because she knows your her only hope of getting out! Be safe out there.
Cheers. Glad it is well with her. Wishing her all the best in her new job. You have a good heart, man. Hoping you will always run into people that can meet you halfway on that. On my part I am a bit of a cynic, I think. I am one to believe that any woman can have the angel side and the not so good side. For this woman, I believe you have the angel side.I agree wholeheartedly with Cheupe. What you do is your business, so obviously you haven't told her that you got a BJ from the other female you met. I may not be understanding fully the whole situation but for me I would force the issue in one of two ways. Obviously you want to fuck her, otherwise you wouldn't be doing what you're doing, so go for it, If you get knocked back, then force the issue in another way and tell her you can get the sexual satisfaction elsewhere, and, if she accepts that then she's telling you that she's interested in you as a friend only. That will tell you you're throwing money at a lost cause and it's time to move on with your life. I personally spent thousands of pounds on a woman very similar to how you describe yours only to sort of find out that she had another sponsor elsewhere so she took what she could get from me by dropping hints about how she'd love one of those or one of these and of course I'd buy it for her after she'd sewn the seed.
Now I'm talking about a very attractive woman, well educated, I met her family too, and she was oh so fantastic in bed. Tallish, 5'8", very good looking, thin to medium build, with a pair of 40 DD boobs and a pussy to die for. Told me she'd only been with two other guys but not for very long stints. As usual it's easy to be wise after the event as we say, and looking back on the two adventures I had with her, I came to and made a decision. The decision to leave was an easy one in the end which came about from various things that had happened and recollections in my head in the couple of months between the first and second meetings. On confronting her face to face about my suspicions I never got what I felt was an honest answer so I deducted from those answers that what I was thinking was correct. She hadn't only had two previous guys because of the way she handled herself in bed, because she'd obviously learnt a hell of a lot in a few months after supposedly losing her virginity to the first guy, and then had a short fling with her second.
I realized before my second trip that I was being used and if you've read my previous posts you'll get a bit more detail.
Everything you've written here about her is so like my story. Obviously it'll take lots of time to tell which neither of us have time to write or read but just your descriptions and the wordings of what you've said make me wary about this woman.
Have a long serious talk to yourself, put your plans in place and act them out in reality, and don't be afraid to do so. You may not get the answers you want to hear but at least you'll clear your head of some of the things going on in your mind.
Friend, I think you need to review the Kenya photo section again. You just don't find phat asses a dime a dozen in Asia. Here is a sample of what I look for high and low in Nairobi- and I don't have to look too hard. Sounds like you don't have phat ass fever. That with a decent rack and face makes for a good trip in Nairobi, though I know I have to tolerate the lack of creature comforts. I'm tired of the millions of tourists in Pattaya (yes I know I should venture out). Never been to Cambo, Viet, Laos. I used to work with many beautiful Lao women in California, fuckin georgeous!
Thanks for the intel, I really appreciate it. One look at the post counts for all these countries simply tells the story that much less is going on. That girl is still emailing because she knows your her only hope of getting out! Be safe out there.I agree with naked. It's a cultural thing. I love African Chicas. For that I am willing to give up creature comforts. The countries I selected were for ease of obtaining residence. Gambia Rwanda very cheap and easy to get one year Residence permits. Asia I don't know.
I am a white African. I have no problems with African culture or mindset. You Bullshit me I Bullshit you haha. Maybe the food or infrastructure are bad so what. But I like to explore. The harder the place to reach, the less Tourists. And sometimes I like a phat ass.
If you want to know about African culture and mindset i highly recommend read Kapuscinsky, The Shadow of the sun.
Neddy 69.
In love with Black booty.
Naked Gunz
05-16-16, 14:40
I agree with naked. It's a cultural thing. I love African Chicas. In love with Black booty.Thanks for the info. Admittedly, I need to get back to the creature comforts after some time in Kenya, like smooth roads! Am just too much of a puzzy I guess. I will be in Nai in Aug. And I'm lining up my contacts. If you will be around let me know.
Hello!
My name is Julia, I am from Russia and I want to go to Kenya to try the chocolate boys. But I do not know where to start, and to seek partners in the most afraid of Kenya. Advise the Kenyan sex dating forums, please!
Boeing 787
05-22-16, 16:21
Hello!
My name is Julia, I am from Russia and I want to go to Kenya to try the chocolate boys. But I do not know where to start, and to seek partners in the most afraid of Kenya. Advise the Kenyan sex dating forums, please!Don't worry Julia, it's very easy for a white lady to find chocolate boys, there are a lot of mature ladies from Europe coming to Kenya just for tasting at the big cock of the locals boys, just walk alone in the beach of Bamburi in the north of Mombasa or at Diani beach at the south of Mombasa, or go in the beach bar and let the boys approch you.
For your security just don't walk alone in the streets or in the beach at night and always use taxi.
And an other thing don't forget to bring a lot of "King size " condoms, enjoy your holidays, me I will be at bamburi beach this Friday, I'm very excited.
Hello!
My name is Julia, I am from Russia and I want to go to Kenya to try the chocolate boys. But I do not know where to start, and to seek partners in the most afraid of Kenya. Advise the Kenyan sex dating forums, please!Pay the member-fee to Jackson so that you can send me a PM. I can give you a couple of numbers from well endowed black guys in Nairobi who would love to do you. I'll be there again in June.
Thanks for the info, but I still its not enough. Unfortunately, I haven't had sex with the blacks and don't know how it will happen. In my room, or he. I am ashamed to ask, but. They have true penises are long and 6.4?
Naked Gunz
05-24-16, 16:01
Thanks for the info, but I still its not enough. Unfortunately, I haven't had sex with the blacks and don't know how it will happen. In my room, or he. I am ashamed to ask, but. They have true penises are long and 6.4?Hopefully you come with a girlfriend that wants the same that you do. The men know what your there for, so they will approach you. Go to the beach, bar, club. Just enjoy the visit, and do what comes naturally when a man approaches you at your home. Penis size is as varied as height and weight. What's really puzzling is usually the most dumb-assed, non-attractive to a woman man has the largest cocks! Gods little joke on all of us.
Thanks for the info, but I still its not enough. Unfortunately, I haven't had sex with the blacks and don't know how it will happen. 4?As ridiculous as this poster sounds, as in troll. The place with the most female sex tourists we ever saw was Gambia. Dakar had a bunch, too. Kenya's not known for this, is it?
Naked Gunz
05-24-16, 17:18
Anyone stayed in Natural Oak apts. Lately? Its been a few years for me, but I remember they had little staff. You entered and left with no scrutiny as the check-in was buried deep in an apartment. I think I want this again. Anyone have a suggestion? Tired of the prison like front desk check-ins. Especially at that rundown 680 dump on Kenyatta.
Thanks for the info, but I still its not enough. Unfortunately, I haven't had sex with the blacks and don't know how it will happen. In my room, or he. I am ashamed to ask, but. They have true penises are long and 6.4?Hi Mironova,
Yes, it's true, black guys here are well-endowed. I would be happy to show you. Send me a message and we can talk.
European Man
10-22-16, 18:47
Hi all,
Do you know hotel (obviously girl friendly) which have web site in Mombasa coast and Mtwapa? I contacted the Big Tee but they will increase prices during Christmas.
My range is 20-40 euro.
Thanks!
Do you know hotel (obviously girl friendly) which have web site in Mombasa coast and Mtwapa? I contacted the Big Tee but they will increase prices during Christmas.
My range is 20-40 euro. Try Jambo Travellers Hotel, Mtwapa. If you stay for a longer time you can negotiate: http://www.jambotravellershotel.co.ke.
Friend, I think you need to review the Kenya photo section again. You just don't find phat asses a dime a dozen in Asia. Here is a sample of what I look for high and low in Nairobi- and I don't have to look too hard. Sounds like you don't have phat ass fever. That with a decent rack and face makes for a good trip in Nairobi, though I know I have to tolerate the lack of creature comforts. I'm tired of the millions of tourists in Pattaya (yes I know I should venture out). Never been to Cambo, Viet, Laos. I used to work with many beautiful Lao women in California, fuckin georgeous!
Thanks for the intel, I really appreciate it. One look at the post counts for all these countries simply tells the story that much less is going on. That girl is still emailing because she knows your her only hope of getting out! Be safe out there.Now that is what I call a path ass!
Hello!
My name is Julia, I am from Russia and I want to go to Kenya to try the chocolate boys. But I do not know where to start, and to seek partners in the most afraid of Kenya. Advise the Kenyan sex dating forums, please!A Russian Blonde in Kenya, girl you don't need to visit a forum. Just buy a ticket and visit. You will find more than you can handle.
Just make sure to check a recent HIV test report and in East Africa, it is not offensive to ask to see the report, it is standard practice. I don't want to scare you off, the AIDs epidemic is very controlled these days, but still its better to ask and see for yourself, maybe you can take him to the clinic and test both of you before you start.
Hi friends,
I am Abhi from India and shall be visiting Kenya end of this month and may have some time. Can someone guide me to good night clubs and also any nice pick-up places. Also, what's the general rate there?
Thanks,
Abhi.
Hi all,
Travelling to Kenya for the first time in June. Have set up a profile on Afro and I have tons of messages. The girls seem very eager, but I'm a little bit worried about scams. I get a lot of nudes and offers. Some 18 year old girl that wants to stay in my hotel with me and only have sex all the time. Sounds like a dream, but is it real or am I setting myself up to be drugged and robbed? Have any of you guys had experiences and could give me some tips how to minimise risk? Any info appreciated. I'll leave reports here when I'm back and will also post the pictures I get. Once I've actually met the girls.
Thanks.
If you have their numbers add them on whatsapp. If they are on FB this
often sincs so you can usually see them under 'people you may know' in friends. This way you can usually check to see if the photos they are sending are really of them and what kind of lives they are living.
Randomly video call them on whatsapp. If they never answer or the light is always off so you can't see face I've found them to be fake.
Ghanese are the worst for this I have found, and have always asked me to send money within a day or so.
A nairobi chick would wake me up most mornings on video with a massive smile and butt naked getting herself ready for work, rubbing cream into that big ass and asking me what clothes she should wear. And then one day she needed money for her phone bundles. I said I never send money. Period!
Lets just say I do not get morning wake up calls anymore!
Hi all,
Travelling to Kenya for the first time in June. Have set up a profile on Afro and I have tons of messages. The girls seem very eager, but I'm a little bit worried about scams. I get a lot of nudes and offers. Some 18 year old girl that wants to stay in my hotel with me and only have sex all the time. Sounds like a dream, but is it real or am I setting myself up to be drugged and robbed? Have any of you guys had experiences and could give me some tips how to minimise risk? Any info appreciated. I'll leave reports here when I'm back and will also post the pictures I get. Once I've actually met the girls.
Thanks.
If you have their numbers add them on whatsapp. If they are on FB this
often sincs so you can usually see them under 'people you may know' in friends. This way you can usually check to see if the photos they are sending are really of them and what kind of lives they are living.
Randomly video call them on whatsapp. If they never answer or the light is always off so you can't see face I've found them to be fake.
Ghanese are the worst for this I have found, and have always asked me to send money within a day or so.
A nairobi chick would wake me up most mornings on video with a massive smile and butt naked getting herself ready for work, rubbing cream into that big ass and asking me what clothes she should wear. And then one day she needed money for her phone bundles. I said I never send money. Period!
Lets just say I do not get morning wake up calls anymore!Keep those principles that you have. Don't send money or agree to meet anyone that you haven't seen on cam. Don't take their pics as up to date, most have been taken before they joined Afro or whatever site they use. I have been taken by some but you get wise to their tricks. If they don't want to use their cam to show themselves, tell them bye bye. You don't go and buy a pair of jeans or a jacket without trying it on, women are exactly the same. Beware of getting involved in threesomes with those you've never met even though the one you're fucking says she's a good friend of hers, that could be a set up for you to become a big time loser. As the old saying goes, look before you leap. Good luck and take care.
Dear all,
Although I am a member for several years, I took notice of the price thread today only.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1083-Prices
The forum is full of posts complaining about increasing prices and guys asking for price information in paticular threads.
The price thread being a general one could be a very useful tool for all of us, so I would like to encourage my fellow mongers to put some recent info there. IMO it could be done in a brief way (widely practiced already) mentioning:
Country.
City.
Type of establishment.
ST / LT.
Looks of the lady X /10.
Performance X /10.
Price.
Link to your post.
Sorry for cross posting, happy mongering!
Hi friends,
I am Abhi from India and shall be visiting Kenya end of this month and may have some time. Can someone guide me to good night clubs and also any nice pick-up places. Also, what's the general rate there?
Thanks,
Abhi.I just did scroll through messages and saw this one here: a typical looser from I. Asking all over the forums 10000 of questions but never delivers any valuable information. It was written in March. But till now nothing reported back. Those guys shall pay up to their nose for any info if they are then too lazy to pay back with input.
But perhaps he is never travelling but sitting in moms basement with the keyboard full of cum from the pics he sees here. Disgusting attitude.
Triple Darknes
03-12-18, 21:29
Because I'm looking for a place to live a countries non mongering activities are important to me too.
In Nai They have some good malls, They even have a Dave & Busters style set up (that caters more to kids) in TRM mall. I even went to the US Embassy's reading room and their magazine rack was about a month old it did have the major US news magazines and papers that I'd want to keep up with should I move. They also had University students and people giving talks I didn't see anybody that attractive but I'm sure it's a good place to pick up girls discreetly.
You could totally bar hop in the westlands and pick up locals and maybe even Mzungus.
I was told by one tinder date that there was a go kart track somewhere near Nairobi west but I didn't check up on it.
I did go to the "7 D" movie theatre at the Thika Road mall. It was 3 D with lights and moving chairs that enhanced the feeling of a rollercoster. It was a one off thing for me but actually it was a pretty cool experience.
I am coming to visit Kenya. But after spending week there, I go to visit some other country for a week and then come back for a few more weeks.
What is clever way to arrange visas? Do I just have to do online single visa for both arrivals?
Or is there some way to buy multiple visa on arrival from immigration, when I arrive to Mombasa?
Thank you.
Member #4563
04-23-18, 04:21
I am coming to visit Kenya. But after spending week there, I go to visit some other country for a week and then come back for a few more weeks.
What is clever way to arrange visas? Do I just have to do online single visa for both arrivals?
Or is there some way to buy multiple visa on arrival from immigration, when I arrive to Mombasa?
Thank you.In Nairobi airport ask for east Africa visa valid for Uganda / Rwanda / Kenya / Tanzania cost 100 usd.
You can go out of Kenya to all above countries and come back and move free within 3 months without additional cost.
If you go out of east African visa alliance then when you back you pay as before as its your first time. Don't forget your yellow card.
Lover Africa
04-23-18, 04:44
I am coming to visit Kenya. But after spending week there, I go to visit some other country for a week and then come back for a few more weeks.
What is clever way to arrange visas? Do I just have to do online single visa for both arrivals?
Or is there some way to buy multiple visa on arrival from immigration, when I arrive to Mombasa?
Thank you.You could buy East African Tourist Visa which is multiple entry valid for 3 Month and good for Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda and cost 100 USD.
You could buy East African Tourist Visa which is multiple entry valid for 3 Month and good for Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda and cost 100 USD.Thanks, I will ask when I arrive to Mombasa. Could be though that it is not valid if I travel somewhere else than East African countries and then come back?
This is not online purchase I guess.
Lover Africa
04-24-18, 04:27
Thanks, I will ask when I arrive to Mombasa. Could be though that it is not valid if I travel somewhere else than East African countries and then come back?
This is not online purchase I guess.You tell them that you are going to Uganda by bus from Kenya. It does not matter if you actually are going there or not.
Don't know if it is available online.
Thanks, I will ask when I arrive to Mombasa. Could be though that it is not valid if I travel somewhere else than East African countries and then come back?
This is not online purchase I guess.Leblon,
I only mention this because it's unusual for your arrival airport to be Mombasa. The majority of flights to Kenya land at JKI where you retrieve your luggage and move from International Arrivals where you get the visa. You then you go across to the terminal building where you fly to Mombasa. You ask them in Nairobi for an East African visa which allows you to travel between Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania and it costs $100 for that visa which they issue to you which is valid for three months.
A nairobi chick would wake me up most mornings on video with a massive smile and butt naked getting herself ready for work, rubbing cream into that big !@#$%^&* and asking me what clothes she should wear. And then one day she needed money for her phone bundles. I said I never send money. Period!
Lets just say I do not get morning wake up calls anymore!That seems a bit cheap to me. I don't think her request was that unreasonable. Internet is expensive in Kenya, especially if you're using phone bundles! And you were the one getting the naked wake-up calls!
Leblon,
I only mention this because it's unusual for your arrival airport to be Mombasa. The majority of flights to Kenya land at JKI where you retrieve your luggage and move from International Arrivals where you get the visa. You then you go across to the terminal building where you fly to Mombasa. You ask them in Nairobi for an East African visa which allows you to travel between Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania and it costs $100 for that visa which they issue to you which is valid for three months.Ethiopia Airlines is flying everywhere, including Mombasa. From where I am flying from, it is cheaper and faster make connecting flight in Addis Abeba Ethiopia, and continue with Ethiopia airlines again to Mombasa.
Often I have done flight to Nairobi, spend a night there, go clubs, and then continue to Mombasa. But those traffic jams between airport and Nairobi, in both directions, are very boring.
Actually I am going to visit Nigeria for week (let's see if that is a good idea) and then come back. So this East African visa don't help for that I guess. I am not arriving from any EA country when I am arriving second time.
Ethiopia Airlines is flying everywhere, including Mombasa. From where I am flying from, it is cheaper and faster make connecting flight in Addis Abeba Ethiopia, and continue with Ethiopia airlines again to Mombasa.
Often I have done flight to Nairobi, spend a night there, go clubs, and then continue to Mombasa. But those traffic jams between airport and Nairobi, in both directions, are very boring.
Actually I am going to visit Nigeria for week (let's see if that is a good idea) and then come back. So this East African visa don't help for that I guess. I am not arriving from any EA country when I am arriving second time.Thanks for that Leblon, I've never flown Ethiopian and doubt I will but good to know. Hope your Nigerian visit will be enjoyable, nice looking women there. I totally agree with your statement regards traffic in Nairobi and Mombasa. Last time I visited Msa was the first time I had seen a roadblock from the airport, granted it was a Saturday at one in the morning but no problem. Traffic congestion is so common in East Africa as it probably is in the whole of Africa but it won't put me off. Good luck in Nigeria.
Triple Darknes
05-14-18, 03:02
Thanks for that Leblon, I've never flown Ethiopian and doubt I will but good to know. Hope your Nigerian visit will be enjoyable, nice looking women there. I totally agree with your statement regards traffic in Nairobi and Mombasa. Last time I visited Msa was the first time I had seen a roadblock from the airport, granted it was a Saturday at one in the morning but no problem. Traffic congestion is so common in East Africa as it probably is in the whole of Africa but it won't put me off. Good luck in Nigeria.I Flew Ethiopian and the upsides were it was cheapest in fact it's the cheapest on the east coast to east Africa. They were on time, but their planes had no wi-fi and no premium movies for such a long flight that was unacceptable to me. And the airport sucked, They had one overpriced restaurant that took US dollars, even their duty free sucked. The attendants were absolutely gorgeous all of them could've been models, but I wouldn't fly Ethiopian unless I had a long layover where I could get a hotel. I can't do 13 hours on a plane especially with those smalls ass seats.
Since a year a ban on all plastic bags does exist in Kenya with heavy fines (means opens the doors for corruption). This ban inlcudes bags brought in from travellers.
Did anyone lately had problems when passing Nairobi airport with plasic bags in the luggage?
Naked Gunz
05-22-18, 18:24
Since a year a ban on all plastic bags does exist in Kenya with heavy fines (means opens the doors for corruption). This ban includes bags brought in from travelers. Did anyone lately had problems when passing Nairobi airport with plasic bags in the luggage?My last few times through customs resulted in no inspection. I have been waved through often. I would imagine I would have a problem because I wrap spillable items in plastic sometimes. There are too many eyes around to demand a payoff right there in the airport. Maybe after a move to a private room. Biodegradable bags are sold in Kenya, so a biodegradable bag being brought in might be okay.
Did anyone lately had problems when passing Nairobi airport with plasic bags in the luggage?No, not at all. They warned in the plane not to walk outside with a plastic bag in your hand, but they did not check any of my luggage. They target more locals who return with a lot of luggage.
Forgot to mention this:
Last time I arrived at Mombasa airport they had a new policy concerning arriving suitcases that were wrapped in plastic foil.
They had instructions to single out these wrapped suitcases and everyone had to remove the plastic wrap on the spot, after which everyone had to open their suitcases for inspection.
So it's better not to have your suitcase wrapped on departure, or remove the plastic before you reach customs, in which case you would need something sharp to cut the plastic wrap.
To all East African regulars I want to ask you all a question that hurts me tremendously and it's about the pricing of hotels / Apartments, and what we can do to make these owners change their attitudes about pricing and tourism. I specifically refer to Msa as a destination and in not only mine but many others opinions that they are going crazy with their prices. I am going to Msa in October (which is supposedly low season for visitors) but you would never think that with the prices they quote for that time of year. I have searched online through airbnb, hotels and apartments and find that they are now getting more and more expensive, possibly higher prices than in Europe or USA for second rate furnishings, water supplies that are sometimes non existent and power cuts that are normally in the higher end places taken over by generator sets when these cuts occur. One of my biggest gripes is a place called Cowrie Beach which has two lifts to climb four floors and one of the lifts has been out of order for at least two years and now it has been reported that the second lift is also now out of order yet the prices for the accommodation remains the same. How the hell do they get that right and on asking them about this they say the lifts will be working on my arrival dates which I find very hard to believe. The manager told me personally that as the lifts were installed by Hyundai they are under warranty and they are waiting for a technician to come and fix them from South Korea. Does it take almost three years for this to happen. Or is it because the owners won't pay the price for the technician to come to Kenya to fix them. I wonder what owners of certain apartments make of this as some of them are privately owned and offered for rent in their absence.
I checked Tamarind Village and was also shocked at their pricing of £140/ day for what has been described by reviewers as being seriously in need of refurbish and poor furnishings and fitments that their management say is in hand and is a work in progress. So is my dick as I have a wank.
Honestly what can we do to tell these people that they're driving away custom by having these run down places and do nothing about fixing the problems to be able to attract customers. Another one is Jumeriah Beach apartments which are 3 bedroom and bathroom en-suite. I don't need three bedrooms as I can only sleep in one bed at any given time but they ask for £200/ day which is OK if you have three guys willing to share a place like that. I also see that being a Kenyan resident lowers the price for such places. They're driving people away by offering 2 star accommodation at 5 star prices. The airlines also love this place and the variance in flight prices for a few months difference is extreme to say the least.
If you visit Kenya with long intervals in between you might find out that your credit on your sim card has disappeared, or even that your sim card doesn't work anymore.
As far as I know on Safaricom if you buy airtime it will be valid for 3 months only. On Telkom (formerly Orange) it lasts for 6 months.
Now if you have a Mpesa account, it seems that if you have even a small amount on that account they cannot let your sim card expire, (or at least that is what I think they cannot do) as you have some of your money stored there.
Recently also Telkom have started their own money service, called T-Kash.
By the way, Telkom gives much more Mb or Gb daily for the same money as Safaricom (like 2 Gb daily for 99 ksh, compared to Safaricom, that gives a meager 1 Gb for the same 99 ksh.).
It seems to be a German only website. Eg for Mombasa they lists 9 hotels they "certify" as girl-friendly.
https://www.girlfriendly-hotels.com/mombasa-mtwapa-bamburi
By the way, Telkom gives much more Mb or Gb daily for the same money as Safaricom (like 2 Gb daily for 99 ksh, compared to Safaricom, that gives a meager 1 Gb for the same 99 ksh.).For one week's stay, which Network you suggest to get a Sim card from? I may do perhaps 100 SMS text and need 2 GB? On data for Watsapp and Uber.
Member #4563
08-06-18, 11:31
In Mombasa area there are Cartel of prices in hotels especially in tourist area. Two ways to overcome it.
1. To stay out of the prostitute areas such as Miritini, Mikindani or even in Town. Then you look at google maps and find hotels and read the reviews. In this area no Agoda, Booking.com etc. Its only good for anyone who wants to stay out of the tourist circle and Monger some real girls. For example Cingaki Hotel, Miritini Guest House or Airport Link Inn. Airport Link Inn for example charge 1000 KES per night. You can see some exotic arab girls around.
2. Go for Mtwapa from a week up to a month. For a week the israelies charge 100 USD non A/C and 150 USD A/C. I am talking about the building of Uziel in the aly next to catholic church. Next to it there is another israely owned building.
3. for Mtwapa lovers better to rent for a month from 100 USD to 200 USD apartments without furnitures or partial furnitures. Buy what you need and find a way to store it for next time for a small fee. Many caretakers will be happy. The trick is to avoid 100 percent any web publications. If this apartment is on the internet your are fucked. Just walk and ask if you see a building without even a sign you can smile. One other method is to take a girl or a boda boda driver and tell him you look for a monthly apartment not for tourists. The disadvantage of this method is security. However some apartments are more expensive with less residence and excellent security. I know every dog house inside and out and good places do exist.
4. just get rich. Life is easy.
Now. Mobile networks Safaricom is the most expensive one as far as Data bundle goes and give very poor value for GB to KSH. However they have significant advantage over Tellecom former orange as follow.
1. True 4 G speed.
2. Strong signal reception almost everywhere particularly inside buildings.
3. Very good value for SMS as long as the recipient also a member of safaricom.
4. Its the most popular operator by far and its means that there is no delay when sending text. So if you buy a Telcom and text to a Safaricom member then the Text can.
Get there up to an hour. I test it my self to a girl sitting next to me.
5. Stability- the network most of the time operational as Tellcom has long period of downtime.
One thing I don't like about Safaricom is that beside the price of a data bundle they seems to measure badly your usage. So sooner then expected you have zero credit. Tellcom don't steal like that.
I do fully agree with the remarks about the different phone companies as mentioned below. So Telkom is much cheaper than Safaricom, but is sometimes less reliable.
But the main problem with Safaricom is indeed that the data are disappearing in a mysterious way like snow in the sunshine. Especially when you are watching or downloading Youtube videos.
There is a third company, Airtel, offering the same rates as Telkom, but I have no experience with that company.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/sex_and_the_sugar_daddy
NewMadaExpert
08-31-18, 14:07
Stay away as they flights are always canceled and with huge delays. This starts around Jan. 2018 and still continues.
Both flights from BKK and Nairobi was delays in August 2018 when I visit Madagascar. They have very cheap flights which is a trap.
Trevor2522
10-09-18, 07:11
Stay away as they flights are always canceled and with huge delays. They have very cheap flights which is a trap.Thanks for the heads up, NewMadaExpert. Fortunately I'm time-flexible in my old age and, in any case, airlines are bound to put travellers up in a hotel if a long flight delay. Kenyan is cheapest from London to Antananarivo (£537) but 7 h layover outbound, so was considering converting it into a longer stopover. To anyone who has done Madagascar & Kenya: how does Kenya compare on safety, general prices and availability of women? Thanks in advance.
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Triple Darknes
03-12-19, 20:27
Stay away as they flights are always canceled and with huge delays. This starts around Jan. 2018 and still continues.
Both flights from BKK and Nairobi was delays in August 2018 when I visit Madagascar. They have very cheap flights which is a trap.Stay away from Ethiopian too, Someone said it before and I kinda pooh-ppohed it but maybe it was because of the crash but this is the first time I had a significant delay.
Bole is not the airport for a layover, The wi-fi didn't work the bathrooms were far away the prices for their shops were crazy and I got the run around. Even the "air conditioning " left room to be desired.
The sad thing is Ethiopian is the cheapest way to get to east Africa from the east coast of the US.
Take heed.
Trip.
Triple Darknes
03-12-19, 20:29
I do fully agree with the remarks about the different phone companies as mentioned below. So Telkom is much cheaper than Safaricom, but is sometimes less reliable.
But the main problem with Safaricom is indeed that the data are disappearing in a mysterious way like snow in the sunshine. Especially when you are watching or downloading Youtube videos.
There is a third company, Airtel, offering the same rates as Telkom, but I have no experience with that company.I used Telkom last time I was here and I didn't have problems. Sararicom defenitely stole data, I went through 2 re ups in a week.
Trip
ElephantBeer
03-13-19, 12:36
Someone on the board recently said there are two things 'Pattaya mongers' do when they reach africa. Either flee back home with tail-between-legs or never leave. (paraphrasing).
I had originally intended to travel down the coast:
Addis. Somolialand - Djibouti. Nairobi - safari. Mombasa - Zanzibar. Dar - Seychelles. Desroches - Mauritus. Rodrigues - Mayotte. Moroni and finally Madagascar.
However, I'm cutting (and running) after Dar. And if my tail is in the wind. I hope it looks like a glorious but beautiful kite!
I was looking forward to the island hopping, not so much for mongering but just renting a car and tooling around and photographing, but to be honest. I'm so burnt out and exhausted by the Africa I've already been through. That I just want out. Now. Enough to ditch my tickets and whatever hotels I can't get out of and just fly the fuck out of here. (however not on a MAX) doh!
Mongering has always been a way of (a method of) traveling. I've been to over countries & territories. If I didn't monger I'd probably just sit in a nice hotel, see the sights and museums ad nauseam. Then make a pretty check-mark on my map. Mongering has gotten me to places like Vila Mimosa in Brazil or Songachi in Calcutta etc. Random dark bars in random dark parts of town. I've gotten to meet local girls (or local imports) and think it's made the overall experience more meaningful (and more fun). You see a LOT more of a city when you're running from one RLD to the next.
I've also seen a lot of poverty. Haiti, rural parts of North Thai, PI, Cambo, Venz, India, Egypt, Nepal etc. But I've never seen poverty combined with the level of violence (or potential violence) that Africa offers up daily.
Asians can be violent, but they're more of a sneaky-snakey-violent. They'll watch you for awhile, looking for weakness and then act on in if they think they won't get caught. Most crime is property robbery or generic theft, or someone you let too close. I can deal with this. In Africa it is just non-stop in your face outright fucking fear-of-death punch-in-face, machete you or shoot you violence.
So far I've been:
Punched once (Nairobi), had stones thrown at me (Somolia), attempted robbery while on street (Nairobi), seen a guy get head butted and shoved in the trunk of a car (while being stuck in taxis at 11 pm at night surrounded by 40+ people), seen two fights, one guy getting kicked by small mob on the ground, and heard of two shootings within a few blocks of my hotel. I have numerous shoulder bumps, a few fake cops and endless hard stares. Not to mention all the little crap. Having to push drunk aggressive dudes off me, being chased down the street by two guys following me (one on either side), the catcalls and threats etc etc.
This is just not my idea of fun mongering, nor my idea of seeing the world. It's miserable, and I'm actually paying boatloads of currency for this experience.
In addition. While I love photographing rundown places (like Havana or parts of Colombia, Jakarta etc) what I've seen of Africa so far has been FAR from eye candy. Trash, poverty, girls in burqas and a whole lot of frigging dust. Mombasa to me is one of the ugliest cities I've ever seen on earth. It may actually be the ugliest city I've ever been in. A huge sprawling shithole from the airport to Mtwapa.
Everything you do here you have to deal with scams. I walked down to the beach in Mombassa the other day (In front of my hotel), as soon as my foot hit the white sand here come 6 or 7 African guys approaching me. I turn my direction to avoid them to let them know I'm not interested, they turn too. I wave my hand. No thanks! - still they come. I crouch down to take a photo of the ocean and then they're surrounding me, one guy wants money as there's a 'beach toll' - another guy says it's not safe but if I pay him he'll watch out for me, another wants to take me on his boat etc etc. When I just shake my head and so 'not interested / no / maybe later / not going to happen guys' - most touts would try again and walk off. Instead 5 of them hang on. As I walk down trying to take a few photographs they walk too. Standing in front of what I'm trying to photograph. Now I'm 'arrogant' and when they finally leave (as I abandon the beach and make it to the hotel' one guy says he'll be watching for me.
Lovely place, and lovely people.
I've been in more impoverished parts of India, not all poor people act like this. I've mainly found it in places like Jamaica, parts of Dominica and of course. Here.
The threat of serious violence is all around you in the parts of Africa I've been. While not totally a pussy. I also know I don't stand a chance if something happens with a few drunk African dudes (or sober ones). I have a good life, good health (knock wood), still in my early 40's and have too much to live for to deal with this nonsense just to hunt African pussy.
This brings me to. African pussy. I have seen some of the most strung out looking, nappy, over-aged, nasty, fugly and fatty prostitutes here than anywhere else on the planet. Other than PNG and maybe Dolly during it's closing days. No joke, sitting at a bar in Mombassa the other day. Looking at 4 obese 50 and 60 something white guys doting on girls that were literal train wrecks. I have seen a few 'princesses' in expat hotel bars etc but they were only 7's and couldn't touch a pretty South American or Asian girl (and I like black girls).
Most often the problem I've run into in Africa is that I just can't find anything I'd want to put my dick into. I'm not picky. I like skinny, big butts, big breasts, no breasts, small, tall, etc. But many of these girls are similar to mongrel soi dogs. You don't want to pet them without hand sanitizer in other hand. I'm not trying to be mean. Just realistic. I can't find someone I'll shag. When I look at the photos many of you are posting. I wouldn't shag those girls either. Their only appeal is they're nude and showing their hoo-hoo, but the reality of them. Yikes. (yes, there are exceptions).
The few relief-fucks I have had. Are typical short time / massage places. They're okay. But nothing that memorable. I could have had the same thing in just about any other mongering destination. And yes you can get a slightly cheaper shag here, but once you figure in flight costs, accommodation costs / quality and just the horrible surroundings. It is NOT a bargain.
The hotels are overpriced and in poor condition, internet is sub-par, food offerings are often suspect, customer service / tourist infrastructure low, healthcare even lower, risk of diseases infinitely higher, and chance of anything worthwhile to see or do during the day is non-existent. Girl scams and hotel room thefts are prevalent, everything must be haggled for (taxis, money changing, shopping etc). I can't not even imagine trying to be an expat in these places. The access to foreign goods, services, construction materials, etc. A true fucking nightmare.
So, am I a coddled Pattaya guy who just wants to go one bar to next and point at a girl to fuck? Am I missing the adventurous crusader spirit that my fellow African mongers have? Am I not a good world traveler? Should I have my license revoked? Hang my head in shame at my viking ancestors?
I dunno, maybe. I've sat many a night in far flung rice field brothels in Cambodia, enjoyed slum brothels in Rio, Venz, Colombia, the apt brothels of Argentina, train brothels of Jakarta, Batam, then dolly, the catacombs in China, Geylang, Fylis st shops, FKK and AO clubs, etc etc.
Many of these are off the beaten tracks. I've hidden under the raised shacks on the Viet border when drunk guys came to find the foreigner, been in my fair share of fights (younger), make a few lucky escapes. I wouldn't say my mongering life has consisted of sitting on a couch crocheting.
But, I find nothing redeeming about mongering in the parts of Africa I've been. For any potential mongers wanting to come for the easy / good / plentiful pussy I'd heartily recommend that's it's over hyped and to stay away. Unless you're here for the game reserves, or unless you're black and can fit in, or find problems mongering in other destinations because of their racism. I can't think why in holy hell you would want to come to Africa to fuck.
It is a miserable, hot, fraught, depressing, sad scene.
Cynicalist
04-05-19, 12:01
Addis. Somolialand - Djibouti. Nairobi - safari. Mombasa - Zanzibar. Dar - Seychelles. Desroches - Mauritus. Rodrigues - Mayotte. Moroni and finally Madagascar.
But, I find nothing redeeming about mongering in the parts of Africa I've been. For any potential mongers wanting to come for the easy / good / plentiful pussy I'd heartily recommend that's it's over hyped and to stay away. Unless you're here for the game reserves, or unless you're black and can fit in, or find problems mongering in other destinations because of their racism. I can't think why in holy hell you would want to come to Africa to fuck.
It is a miserable, hot, fraught, depressing, sad scene.No clue why on earth you'd ever visit Somalia.
Try Southern Africa next time. Zimbabwe / Botswana / Namibia / Botswana and Cape Town.
Or the island of Cape Verde (you will need a strong handle on Portuguese though) but the mulattas are worth it.
Also being black doesn't give you anymore license to fit in than an American visiting Europe or Australia.
Someone on the board recently said there are two things 'Pattaya mongers' do when they reach africa. Either flee back home with tail-between-legs or never leave. (paraphrasing).
I had originally intended to travel down the coast:
Addis. Somolialand - Djibouti. Nairobi - safari. Mombasa - Zanzibar. Dar - Seychelles. Desroches - Mauritus. Rodrigues - Mayotte. Moroni and finally Madagascar.
However, I'm cutting (and running) after Dar. And if my tail is in the wind. I hope it looks like a glorious but beautiful kite!
I was looking forward to the island hopping, not so much for mongering but just renting a car and tooling around and photographing, but to be honest. I'm so burnt out and exhausted by the Africa I've already been through. That I just want out. Now. Enough to ditch my tickets and whatever hotels I can't get out of and just fly the fuck out of here. (however not on a MAX) doh!.I've been reading your entertaining posts and in part on their basis decided to give Kenya the miss altogether and stay in Uganda. I am going the dating apps way and having (I think) greater success.
But yes, it's all pretty run-down and dismal. No straight lines anywhere.
The Tall Man
04-10-19, 18:21
Someone on the board recently said there are two things 'Pattaya mongers' do when they reach africa. Either flee back home with tail-between-legs or never leave. (paraphrasing).
I had originally intended to travel down the coast:
Addis. Somolialand - Djibouti. Nairobi - safari. Mombasa - Zanzibar. Dar - Seychelles. Desroches - Mauritus. Rodrigues - Mayotte. Moroni and finally Madagascar.
.I too have always been curious about Africa and for the past 5 or 10 years thinking about a visit but must thank you for your honest and I must say objective review of life there and the P4 P scene. So now I have officially crossed off Africa from my bucket list to visit.
I too like black girls, last night I picked up a 20 yo black in centro Medellin Colombia and for 100 mil (equals $35. USD) I had intense sex for a solid 2 hours, so why do I have any need to visit Africa when I can get blacks, whites and morenas right here in Colombia.
Thanks again for your post.
The Tall Man.
I too have always been curious about Africa and for the past 5 or 10 years thinking about a visit but must thank you for your honest and I must say objective review of life there and the P4 P scene. So now I have officially crossed off Africa from my bucket list to visit.
I too like black girls, last night I picked up a 20 yo black in centro Medellin Colombia and for 100 mil (equals $35. USD) I had intense sex for a solid 2 hours, so why do I have any need to visit Africa when I can get blacks, whites and morenas right here in Colombia.
Thanks again for your post.
The Tall Man.Making such a sweeping decision based on what reads like a peculiar and not too believable rant seems a tad unreasonable to me. The dude must be the unluckiest human being ever to set foot in Africa, or is just full of himself.
Triple Darknes
04-11-19, 08:10
I too have always been curious about Africa and for the past 5 or 10 years thinking about a visit but must thank you for your honest and I must say objective review of life there and the P4 P scene. So now I have officially crossed off Africa from my bucket list to visit.
I too like black girls, last night I picked up a 20 yo black in centro Medellin Colombia and for 100 mil (equals $35. USD) I had intense sex for a solid 2 hours, so why do I have any need to visit Africa when I can get blacks, whites and morenas right here in Colombia.
Thanks again for your post.
The Tall Man.Not to pile on but I will pile on. I'm not taking away anything from the guy's well written post but I still can't believe the guy when to Somaliland with no problems but was almost assaulted in Nairobi. I know there's like 4 Somalias but there's no way I'd risk going their especially as a westerner. The possibility of kidnapping and torture are too great. The fact that he said he was "hassled" by MEN in Nairobi even in "dangerous" CBD at night, I really have to wonder what he did / said to set them off because lets face it The Colonial ideal is still present in Africa, there's almost zero resentment of foreigners in non Islamic Africa.
Again the differences of Africa and every other third world shithole is the lack of a red light industry, Are there bars, Yes, Brothels, sure, Massage Parlors absolutely but every girl is an independent no one is forcing them, there's no touts, Pimps, madams or bar fines. Most Mongers problem is too much GFE, You can get "lovebombed" like anywhere else but the western union hustle is much less developed than say it is in the DR, and Colombia. The chances of getting knockout drops like what happened to that Marine Colonel in Colombia while possible is far far less likely. If someone was into Black girls and was also into traveling for pussy Africa is the easiest place to get your feet wet.
That being said I always had a problem with flying thousands of miles simply for some cut rate strange, so far be it from me to tell someone to come to Africa.
Member #4673
04-12-19, 04:01
I still can't believe the guy when to Somaliland with no problems but was almost assaulted in Nairobi..Don't confuse Somaliland with Somalia.
Two different countries.
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/somaliland-puntland-and-somalia/somaliland
Triple Darknes
04-12-19, 14:13
Don't confuse Somaliland with Somalia.
Two different countries.
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/somaliland-puntland-and-somalia/somalilandI'm aware of that, There's also Puntland but I'm not taking a chance there when Al-Shabbab can basically attack at will. Again look at the dude we're talking about an adventure monger who is willing to go off the beaten track for poon. If he got into trouble on River Road just imagine what could happen in the wrong bar in Somaliland.
Member #4673
04-12-19, 14:19
If he got into trouble on River Road just imagine what could happen in the wrong bar in Somaliland.I do appreciate his contribution especially for his honest opinion. Nairobi is not a walk in the park and everything can happen in Kenya. Very dangerous country I lived in Mtwapa for years.
I've been reading your entertaining posts and in part on their basis decided to give Kenya the miss altogether and stay in Uganda. I am going the dating apps way and having (I think) greater success.
But yes, it's all pretty run-down and dismal. No straight lines anywhere.Good evening to all.
I'm writing because I am a little concerned by the bad rap that parts of Africa have been getting of late.
Let me start by saying I am a regular reader of the site and use it extensively for learning about locations and planning trips. I am always suspicious of overly positive, or overly negative reports of any location or situation. I feel that there is just to much opportunity for personal likes and dislikes to cloud the actual situation on the ground. Having said that, it is only natural that our personal experiences dictate what we may report, no problem with that. And understood.
A bit about me. I am a older, retired guy. And for the past 12 years I have been spending 5 to 6 months of every Canadian winter travelling and living in the tropics. I have traveled and visited extensively in South East Asia, Indonesia, Mexico, Central America and several Caribbean locations. I reckon in the past 12 years I have spent nearly 6 years living in the tropics and enjoying our hobby.
I have spent time living and travelling around in some fairly difficult and poor locations. We could easily use Mr. Trumps characterization of 'shithole country's' to describe several of them.
As a older guy travelling on my own, I travel with caution and with both eyes open as much as possible. While trying to enjoy the places I visit, I am also trying to be aware of my surroundings and avoid problems.
So to get to my point here, this past winter from last Nov through to this April I made a long desired first trip to East Africa. I spent five months travelling on my own in Uganda and Kenya. I had thought I might get to a few more destinations. But to be honest I was just having such a good time in Uganda and Kenya that I got no further. On this trip.
In my five months I never once had a bad experience or a scary situation. And I can assure you there were many late nights out where I found myself returning to my hotel on the back of a boda while the sun was rising! And I can happily report that my interactions and experiences with the ladies of Uganda and Kenya exceeded my wildest dreams. I will flat out say that I found the ladies to typically be lovely, fun loving, good company, honest, drama free and generally just plain nice ladies.
Will I return to Africa. Absolutely!
So, to anyone trying to make up their mind about whether Africa is a place they should dare visit. I would say if you have at least some experience with poor, under-developed countries and are not intimidated or uncomfortable by basic living standards and poverty. Then by all means go and experience Africa!
Bear in mind you're not going to Disney Land or Kansas Dorothy. It can be hot and humid and uncomfortable, but I miss it a lot and will certainly be returning.
So, my message basically is. Don't be put off by one or two individuals who have been running around with nothing good to say about their brief time in Africa. I respect everyone's right to an opinion, but we should try to temper our highs and lows.
That's about it I guess. I'm certainly not trying to criticize anyone for their reporting. Though I definitely would encourage people considering Africa to focus on the reports of Neddy 69, Mobie 75, Triple Darkness, Naked Gunz and the many others who's reports convinced me to take the plunge and visit Africa.
Uganda and Kenya were great experiences and I will be repeating.
Cheers, and best to all.
I do appreciate his contribution especially for his honest opinion. Nairobi is not a walk in the park and everything can happen in Kenya. Very dangerous country I lived in Mtwapa for years.Funny that you mention Mtwapa here, because for some reason Mtwapa seems to be the exception in Kenya, concerning safety.
It is very rare to hear about serious crimes in Mtwapa, especially compared to other places in Kenya, like for example some areas in Mombasa, like Bamburi (Town), Kisauni or Likoni.
"the city that never sleeps" is quite safe to walk around, be it day or night.
ElephantBeer
04-15-19, 01:20
Feel free to beat me up, that's cool. But I've probably traveled to more places for poon than many of you, and have rarely encountered any problems. Nairobi was by far the worst.
I felt very exposed just walking through the CBD area most anytime, but early evenings (or full on night when going for taxis) were the worst. Take a walk from lets say Hilton square to City Hall area. Then up Kenyatta to Moi and over to Accra then up to River Road and come back. If you have no problems and feel safe. Than more power to you. Based on the number of guards, security checks, and police. I might be forgiven for thinking there's a problem.
I look very very very Finnish, Swedish, bright blonde hair, baby face etc. This might matter more than anything else. Even tho I've fucked 5,000+ girls and have lived in Asia for 12+ years, often when I go out at night girls will peg me as the first time, first night visitor. I guess this is my cross to bear.
Yes, I saw several beating, a guy thrown in a trunk, I got punched, shoulder checked, catcalled, had guys following me, and had a bag ripped out of my hands by teenage boys etc. These are just simple facts of my experience. You can choose not to believe them. You can believe in flat earth or whatever else gets you off. That's on you, not me.
I didn't feel that Villa Mimosa (back in the day) was particularly dangerous (though I kept my wits about me), nor Haiti, walking around Argentina, Colombia, Venz years ago etc. But Nairobi seems shit-dangerous. Even just hanging out in Sabina Joy at 7 pm, I got a lot of looks. Not, 'I want to kill you in the bathroom' looks, but not 'wow, nice to see a new face' either. Just some really. Wtf are you doing here. Looks.
For the poster that states that walking down a Nairobi street is the same for a white guy as if an American were going to Australia. Humbly agree to disagree.
In Asia you might get extremely unlucky and have your drink spiked (I've never known anyone this happened to), could possibly get setup by the cops, might get something stolen out of your room by a girl (still very unlikely), or you might catch the clap. But you don't have to worry about sitting in a beach restaurant at night and having a group of guys in masks come over with guns (rented from the cops) and machetes and proceed to relieve you of your cellphones, money, and clothes. In Kenya. You do. There's just a whole another level of violence (or threat of it).
Anyway, that's my experience. YMMV.
Good evening to all.
I'm writing because I am a little concerned by the bad rap that parts of Africa have been getting of late.
Let me start by saying I am a regular reader of the site and use it extensively for learning about locations and planning trips. I am always suspicious of overly positive, or overly negative reports of any location or situation. I feel that there is just to much opportunity for personal likes and dislikes to cloud the actual situation on the ground. Having said that, it is only natural that our personal experiences dictate what we may report, no problem with that. And understood.
A bit about me. I am a older, retired guy. And for the past 12 years I have been spending 5 to 6 months of every Canadian winter travelling and living in the tropics. I have traveled and visited extensively in South East Asia, Indonesia, Mexico, Central America and several Caribbean locations. I reckon in the past 12 years I have spent nearly 6 years living in the tropics and enjoying our hobby.
I have spent time living and travelling around in some fairly difficult and poor locations. We could easily use Mr. Trumps characterization of 'shithole country's' to describe several of them.
As a older guy travelling on my own, I travel with caution and with both eyes open as much as possible. While trying to enjoy the places I visit, I am also trying to be aware of my surroundings and avoid problems.
So to get to my point here, this past winter from last Nov through to this April I made a long desired first trip to East Africa. I spent five months travelling on my own in Uganda and Kenya. I had thought I might get to a few more destinations. But to be honest I was just having such a good time in Uganda and Kenya that I got no further. On this trip.
In my five months I never once had a bad experience or a scary situation. And I can assure you there were many late nights out where I found myself returning to my hotel on the back of a boda while the sun was rising! And I can happily report that my interactions and experiences with the ladies of Uganda and Kenya exceeded my wildest dreams. I will flat out say that I found the ladies to typically be lovely, fun loving, good company, honest, drama free and generally just plain nice ladies.
Will I return to Africa. Absolutely!
So, to anyone trying to make up their mind about whether Africa is a place they should dare visit. I would say if you have at least some experience with poor, under-developed countries and are not intimidated or uncomfortable by basic living standards and poverty. Then by all means go and experience Africa!
Bear in mind you're not going to Disney Land or Kansas Dorothy. It can be hot and humid and uncomfortable, but I miss it a lot and will certainly be returning.
So, my message basically is. Don't be put off by one or two individuals who have been running around with nothing good to say about their brief time in Africa. I respect everyone's right to an opinion, but we should try to temper our highs and lows.
That's about it I guess. I'm certainly not trying to criticize anyone for their reporting. Though I definitely would encourage people considering Africa to focus on the reports of Neddy 69, Mobie 75, Triple Darkness, Naked Gunz and the many others who's reports convinced me to take the plunge and visit Africa.
Uganda and Kenya were great experiences and I will be repeating.
Cheers, and best to all.Thumbs up from an african addict. Once you understand how the system Africa works you live in eternal paradise. In fact I am working in Europe right now but I am homesick EVERY day listening to my favourite bongo tunes. I miss everything. The lifestyle is just so different to our so called developed countries. Kenya and Uganda will remain in my top 5 African countries. I am learning Kiswahili. As soon as I receive my pension I ll move full time to my beloved Africa. There is so much to explore. In my opinion if you not get fully immersed in african culture you ll never enjoy this continent to its full potential. If you don't enjoy the challenges of daily survival then stay in Asia. Africa you have to earn it. But every day is an adventure.
To close with my favourite Hemingway quote:
But when I would wake in the night I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.
Neddy.
Funny that you mention Mtwapa here, because for some reason Mtwapa seems to be the exception in Kenya, concerning safety.
It is very rare to hear about serious crimes in Mtwapa, especially compared to other places in Kenya, like for example some areas in Mombasa, like Bamburi (Town), Kisauni or Likoni.
"the city that never sleeps" is quite safe to walk around, be it day or night.I absolutely agree. Only the chicas try to rob and steal from you. The most important rule. Never go into relationship. Fuck and forget.
Neddy.
I have friends living in Somaliland, in Huarghada. Impression that I have got from them is that it is safe place, but very boring. There are no bars, no alcohol, and you can't get no girls.
So no reason to go there really for mongering reasons. Puntland and actual main Somalia, don't go there, it is not safe. Those friends visited Mogadishu for business reasons. There were bars, girls and good parties at some international zone, but there is maximum security and armored cars all the time. Again, no reason to go. And could be that you could not get visa without business reason.
I've been reading your entertaining posts and in part on their basis decided to give Kenya the miss altogether and stay in Uganda. I am going the dating apps way and having (I think) greater success.
But yes, it's all pretty run-down and dismal. No straight lines anywhere.Uganda is a good choice, and Kampala could be my favourite place in East Africa. But there is no ocean, and no beach. Victoria lake don't have nice beach. So my favourite place is Mombasa.
ElephantBeer did not visit Uganda and Kampala, but I assume that he would not have liked it there either. Kampala, Mombasa, Nairobi and Dar are main mongering destinations in my opinion in East Africa. Very different places but still quite similar, for example I could not say from which country some particular girl is.
Addis Abeba and Ethiopian girls, they are very beautiful and they look different than others. But I did not like Addis so much, and problem with Ethiopian girls is that oral sex is impossible. I met lot of Ethiopian girls in Dubai, and first time they had never heard about oral sex before coming to Dubai. "Mouth is for eating food only".
Rwanda and most West Africa are problematic for me because I don't speak French, I haven't visited West Africa. Good thing with Kenya Tanzania and Uganda is that English is well understood.
Of South America and East Africa. In my case East Africa won, I have lived in South America several years, in Brazil, Arg, Col. I just slowly stopped going there (with my own money) and my trips started to go to East Africa.
I feel that I was more scared in South America than in East Africa, especially in Rio. Nairobi can be scary sometimes. But security was not a reason, I just like girls in East Africa, and general relaxed atmosphere there.
By the way, one place to meet African girls is that already mentioned Dubai, infrastructure there is more developed. You meet lot of Nigerian girls (who say that they are from Ghana) and lot of Ethiopian girls (who say that they are from Kenya). But Dubai is more expensive, and there is continuous problem to find hotel that accept girls. And, system there is that each girl has a sponsor, who is often former prostitute, and he is mostly cruel boss to the girl, beating her if she comes home too late. So it is difficult to be friend to the girls, they don't have free time.
These are my personal opinions, and thanks for Elephant Beer for critical report, those are needed.
Naked Gunz
05-14-19, 15:33
Someone on the board recently said there are two things 'Pattaya mongers' do when they reach africa. Either flee back home with tail-between-legs or never leave. (paraphrasing).
I had originally intended to travel down the coast:
Addis. Somolialand - Djibouti. Nairobi - safari. Mombasa - Zanzibar. Dar - Seychelles. Desroches - Mauritus. Rodrigues - Mayotte. Moroni and finally Madagascar.
However, I'm cutting (and running) after Dar. And if my tail is in the wind. I hope it looks like a glorious but beautiful kite!
I was looking forward to the island hopping, not so much for mongering but just renting a car and tooling around and photographing, but to be honest. I'm so burnt out and exhausted by the Africa I've already been through. That I just want out. Now. Enough to ditch my tickets and whatever hotels I can't get out of and just fly the fuck out of here. (however not on a MAX) doh!.Wow, what long post to complain about a place, but actually a pretty good description for Mombasa. I have been to Kenya about 15-16 times and got a taste of what your describing. I'm Black, but only kinda blended in, because no Black American can "fit in", just be much more tolerated. From all the shit you said you experienced in those other countries, seems to me you could separate the bullshit from the good shit that the place has to offer. I love Nairobi because I have learned what to do and where to go.
I could never experience what a Mzungu goes through in Kenya. Who the hell goes to Somalia for sex! OMG! You should read Neddy's Africa posts because if you really like Black pussy don't give up on the first time.
Wow, what long post to complain about a place, but actually a pretty good description for Mombasa. I have been to Kenya about 15-16 times and got a taste of what your describing. I'm Black, but only kinda blended in, because no Black American can "fit in", just be much more tolerated. From all the shit you said you experienced in those other countries, seems to me you could separate the bullshit from the good shit that the place has to offer. I love Nairobi because I have learned what to do and where to go.
I could never experience what a Mzungu goes through in Kenya. Who the hell goes to Somalia for sex! OMG! You should read Neddy's Africa posts because if you really like Black pussy don't give up on the first time.I have been going to Kenya for around 13-14 years, as well as other destinations in Thailand and various Central America / Caribbean / West African destinations. I am a Mzungu. Elephant beers experience is really a surprise especially regarding violence as I have found security can be much tighter in Nairobi than many cities including where I live London. I think Elephantbeer should have done a little more research before deciding to stay near River Road, even some Kenyans I know will not go over that side of town (though I did go to strip club last time I was there) That's another story. The areas to stay in Nairobi are Westlands / Kilimani / Hurlingham / Parklands-actually too many to list. Fantastic nightlife and women everywhere in abundance. I have lost count tbh of the women I have bedded in Kenya. Never seen any violence except what sometimes you hear in the papers with political issues. Walked the streets both in Mombasa and Nairobi drunk as a skunk at 4 am and zero issues countless times. Been there at least 25-30 times. Thailand and Caribbean as well as other places are different story violence wise for me. Drugs and hardcore hookers. Still fun though.
Stay safe and do a little research before you travel.
I felt very exposed just walking through the CBD area most anytime, but early evenings (or full on night when going for taxis) were the worst. Take a walk from lets say Hilton square to City Hall area. Then up Kenyatta to Moi and over to Accra then up to River Road and come back. If you have no problems and feel safe. Than more power to you. Based on the number of guards, security checks, and police. I might be forgiven for thinking there's a problem..That area is actually the best area to meet normal girls from all over the region and all walks of life. It depends on your approach, Kenya is a bit unique as the population is heavily Bantu with an East African substrate, naturally self-identified Nordic man will seem a bit the opposite to a Kenyan (all tribes are hot, with no Northern input). However, a European who is truly immersed in Kenyan (women) becomes Kenyan. Meaning his addiction to Kenyan vaginal fluids alters his identity, his eyes are triggered by woman of shape and he has no time to think about what guys are thinking of him.
You will have harder time walking into African American hoods, where jealous locals are mate guarding and trying everything possible to discourage the dymes from giving you Vag. Starting from the common false rumors (he a Fed or Brings heat. Etc) to physical dangerous Simp moves.
Kenya is by far more fun than the other parts of the world, in general street thugs / gangs like anywhere else learned the hard way to profile men / prey, so they test eyes. If that will prevent you from scoring then how 5000?!
I usually avoid teaming up but you can walk with me -I walk with pockets full of money- but tunnel vision and fleet feet chasing the best woman I can spot across the horizon, if you regroup and want to give it another try. We meet at the Hilton & You redeem yourself, buy Truvada ($9/ month supply in Kenya) and start emersing yourself in Kenyan women properly so you can get rid of the bad feelings. Mid July.
The Tall Man
12-12-19, 08:48
I wanted to thank you again for posting this boots-on-the-ground report. I read this when you first posted it back in May and even thanked you for posting it then and that you saved me time and money by me not visiting Mtwapa, well for some reason I got an urge to check out if anything has changed, perhaps a possible trip to Mtwapa to satisfy my thirst for black pussy, but now I read through your post and it sets my head on straight again.
So any thought of a mongering visit to Mtwapa is off my radar screen. Thanks again!
The Tall Man.
Someone on the board recently said there are two things 'Pattaya mongers' do when they reach africa. Either flee back home with tail-between-legs or never leave. (paraphrasing).
I had originally intended to travel down the coast:
Addis. Somolialand - Djibouti. Nairobi - safari. Mombasa - Zanzibar. Dar - Seychelles. Desroches - Mauritus. Rodrigues - Mayotte. Moroni and finally Madagascar.
However, I'm cutting (and running) after Dar. And if my tail is in the wind. I hope it looks like a glorious but beautiful kite!
I was looking forward to the island hopping, not so much for mongering but just renting a car and tooling around and photographing, but to be honest. I'm so burnt out and exhausted by the Africa I've already been through. That I just want out. Now. Enough to ditch my tickets and whatever hotels I can't get out of and just fly the fuck out of here. (however not on a MAX) doh!.
I wanted to thank you again for posting this boots-on-the-ground report. I read this when you first posted it back in May and even thanked you for posting it then and that you saved me time and money by me not visiting Mtwapa, well for some reason I got an urge to check out if anything has changed, perhaps a possible trip to Mtwapa to satisfy my thirst for black pussy, but now I read through your post and it sets my head on straight again.
So any thought of a mongering visit to Mtwapa is off my radar screen. Thanks again!
The Tall Man.A matter of perspective. Why you listen to the (to my knowledge) only guy who ran away from Africa screaming is anyone's guess. To quote (not my words but Nakedgunz):
You should read Neddy's Africa posts because if you really like Black pussy don't give up on the first time.
And. Actually Kenya doesn't exist only of Mtwapa.....
Neddy.
Who feels you deprive yourself of prime ebony pussy by listening to the 1%.
Burned out and exhausted... No wonder when I look at the crazy itinerary..... People want to gobble up the whole of Africa in one big bite?? Wrong approach. One small bite(country) at a time....... And from beginners country (ie Kenya) to advanced country(ie Rwanda). Then you avoid disappointment.
The Tall Man
12-16-19, 05:19
A matter of perspective. Why you listen to the (to my knowledge) only guy who ran away from Africa screaming is anyone's guess. To quote (not my words but Nakedgunz):
You should read Neddy's Africa posts because if you really like Black pussy don't give up on the first time.
And. Actually Kenya doesn't exist only of Mtwapa.....
Neddy.
Who feels you deprive yourself of prime ebony pussy by listening to the 1%.
Burned out and exhausted... No wonder when I look at the crazy itinerary..... People want to gobble up the whole of Africa in one big bite?? Wrong approach. One small bite(country) at a time....... And from beginners country (ie Kenya) to advanced country(ie Rwanda). Then you avoid disappointment.Thanks for the different view. Much respect. And yes I love black pussy.
So if I should reconsider a first trip to Africa, by myself solo, where would a monger like me go?
As an aside, last week I posted my profile on afrointroductions and I am not so please with either the number of likes, nor the interest or the quality of woman that I have received, granted it has only been about 5 days, and I am not ugly nor fat just an average tall white guy.
Thanks!
The Tall Man.
Thanks for the different view. Much respect. And yes I love black pussy.
So if I should reconsider a first trip to Africa, by myself solo, where would a monger like me go?
As an aside, last week I posted my profile on afrointroductions and I am not so please with either the number of likes, nor the interest or the quality of woman that I have received, granted it has only been about 5 days, and I am not ugly nor fat just an average tall white guy.
Thanks!
The Tall Man.Don't think too complicated. Book a flight to Nairobi. Maybe on Kenyan from NYC. Get some phone numbers from the stewardesses.
Land. Get your Visa on Arrival. Take an Uber to your crib. Go out. Start hunt down pussy wherever you encounter it. Read my posts and of Naked Gunz, Mombie. Its a lot safer than Colombia.... You're experienced monger. So. nothing to be afraid of... Be aware that lying stealing and cheating are national past times in Kenya. Lock everything up and you'll be good. It pays to know a bit kiswahili. Its not rocket science. Leave your bling bling at home...
Neddy.
Africa has to grow on you. Believe me. When I arrived the first time in Nairobi walking in CBD the lone muzungu in a sea of black people it can be intimidating... I got lost within minutes.. LOL. Muzungus are usually loaded and are being whisked about in fancy SUVs with Kenyan drivers.
Not me LOL. I am Kenyan Kimbo....
I am on Afro. But mostly full of gold diggers and hookers. Hunt on the ground. Much better. You can use Tagged or Badoo... But never forget. The best pussy doesn't have a smart phone and are to poor to even be on the net...
The Tall Man
12-18-19, 03:54
Don't think too complicated. Book a flight to Nairobi. Maybe on Kenyan from NYC. Get some phone numbers from the stewardesses.
Land. Get your Visa on Arrival. Take an Uber to your crib. Go out. Start hunt down pussy wherever you encounter it. Read my posts and of Naked Gunz, Mombie. Its a lot safer than Colombia.... You're experienced monger. So. nothing to be afraid of... Be aware that lying stealing and cheating are national past times in Kenya. Lock everything up and you'll be good. It pays to know a bit kiswahili. Its not rocket science. Leave your bling bling at home...
Neddy.
Africa has to grow on you. Believe me. When I arrived the first time in Nairobi walking in CBD the lone muzungu in a sea of black people it can be intimidating... I got lost within minutes.. LOL. Muzungus are usually loaded and are being whisked about in fancy SUVs with Kenyan drivers.
Not me LOL. I am Kenyan Kimbo....
I am on Afro. But mostly full of gold diggers and hookers. Hunt on the ground. Much better. You can use Tagged or Badoo... But never forget. The best pussy doesn't have a smart phone and are to poor to even be on the net...Thanks for your suggestions! I am considering what I should do.
The Tall Man.
Don't think too complicated. Book a flight to Nairobi. Maybe on Kenyan from NYC. Get some phone numbers from the stewardesses.
Land. Get your Visa on Arrival. Take an Uber to your crib. Go out. Start hunt down pussy wherever you encounter it. Read my posts and of Naked Gunz, Mombie. Its a lot safer than Colombia.... You're experienced monger. So. nothing to be afraid of... Be aware that lying stealing and cheating are national past times in Kenya. Lock everything up and you'll be good. It pays to know a bit kiswahili. Its not rocket science. Leave your bling bling at home...
Neddy.
Africa has to grow on you. Believe me. When I arrived the first time in Nairobi walking in CBD the lone muzungu in a sea of black people it can be intimidating... I got lost within minutes.. LOL. Muzungus are usually loaded and are being whisked about in fancy SUVs with Kenyan drivers.
Not me LOL. I am Kenyan Kimbo....
I am on Afro. But mostly full of gold diggers and hookers. Hunt on the ground. Much better. You can use Tagged or Badoo... But never forget. The best pussy doesn't have a smart phone and are to poor to even be on the net...Best I have read in awhile and on point. After working and living all over Africa 20+ years I can honestly say social networking isn't always the best hunting grounds. Sometimes the gal at the market or the phone store is far superior.
Bulik Out.
DzikaBomba
03-28-20, 19:18
Hello Gents,
I'm thinking about visiting Mombasa after this Corona Thing comes to an End.
But I'm very curious how the ladies in Kenya are build on average? I have not the biggest tool, that's why I liked going to the Philippines, because in my Experience many Ladies there have tight Pussies.
And about Africa I know only the typical Stereotypes, that Black Men have big Dicks and Black Ladies have wide Pussies.
Can you seasoned Mongers in Kenya please tell me how you experienced the Girls there? Are the Ladies tight or not so in Comparison to other E. G. Philippines Girls?
Thanks for any Info on that.
Hello Gents,
I'm thinking about visiting Mombasa after this Corona Thing comes to an End.
But I'm very curious how the ladies in Kenya are build on average? I have not the biggest tool, that's why I liked going to the Philippines, because in my Experience many Ladies there have tight Pussies.
And about Africa I know only the typical Stereotypes, that Black Men have big Dicks and Black Ladies have wide Pussies.
Can you seasoned Mongers in Kenya please tell me how you experienced the Girls there? Are the Ladies tight or not so in Comparison to other E. G. Philippines Girls?
Thanks for any Info on that."Don't believe anything you hear and only half what you see".
Sometimes you might find that it is quite the opposite. I have known Asian gals that were quite large and African gals that are quite small and tight. No matter what your preference in a woman is you will find it in Kenya as you would in most African countries. I am an Ass guy so I am living the good life here.
Member #4673
03-29-20, 13:13
Hello Gents,
I'm thinking about visiting Mombasa after this Corona Thing comes to an End.
But I'm very curious how the ladies in Kenya are build on average? I have not the biggest tool, that's why I liked going to the Philippines, because in my Experience many Ladies there have tight Pussies.
And about Africa I know only the typical Stereotypes, that Black Men have big Dicks and Black Ladies have wide Pussies.
Can you seasoned Mongers in Kenya please tell me how you experienced the Girls there? Are the Ladies tight or not so in Comparison to other E. G. Philippines Girls?
Thanks for any Info on that.Forget about Kenya. Go to Mada or stay in Asia as it is the best place. I never enjoyed sex in Kenya.
Himbersaft
03-29-20, 16:24
Hello Gents,
I'm thinking about visiting Mombasa after this Corona Thing comes to an End.
But I'm very curious how the ladies in Kenya are build on average? I have not the biggest tool, that's why I liked going to the Philippines, because in my Experience many Ladies there have tight Pussies.
And about Africa I know only the typical Stereotypes, that Black Men have big Dicks and Black Ladies have wide Pussies.
Can you seasoned Mongers in Kenya please tell me how you experienced the Girls there? Are the Ladies tight or not so in Comparison to other E. G. Philippines Girls?
Thanks for any Info on that.After 10 years of mongering in Kenya I can say the stereotypes are true.
But who cares, tell them to close their legs then the pussy is right.
Himbersaft.
Naked Gunz
03-29-20, 19:26
Can you seasoned Mongers in Kenya please tell me how you experienced the Girls there? Are the Ladies tight or not so in Comparison to other E. G. Philippines Girls? Thanks for any Info on that.Pussy size is as variable as height, weight, tit size, shoe size. I had a Mombasa girl with 38 DDD tits, thick curvy ass, but a pussy so tight I needed to lube, and ease into very, very slowly. At 25 she was like a virgin. Just go and explore, and enjoy.
Pussy size is as variable as height, weight, tit size, shoe size. I had a Mombasa girl with 38 DDD tits, thick curvy ass, but a pussy so tight I needed to lube, and ease into very, very slowly. At 25 she was like a virgin. Just go and explore, and enjoy.Could you PM me her contact if if you still have it?
Naked Gunz
03-31-20, 17:00
Could you PM me her contact if if you still have it?My friend you don't want this stalker in your phone book. She knew all about the girl I was living with in Nakuru. How she found out, I don't have a clue. She also knew when I was in the Philippines. I suspect she has something installed in my phone.
"Don't believe anything you hear and only half what you see".
. I am an Ass guy so I am living the good life here.Is this a reference to living the good life of a guy into anal?
Or the shape of the African butt in general?
Is this a reference to living the good life of a guy into anal?
Or the shape of the African butt in general?Shape in general. Not an ass man as in anal.
My friend you don't want this stalker in your phone book. She knew all about the girl I was living with in Nakuru. How she found out, I don't have a clue. She also knew when I was in the Philippines. I suspect she has something installed in my phone.Send away man. I usually have a 2nd burner phone for my international travels. You can't stalk me if I have a phone that I've tossed once I've left the country.
I suspect she has something installed in my phone.When you sleep, either power off your phone or put it in airplane mode. Someone can unlock your phone by calling your number then answering your phone. Once they do that, they're in.
SexProfessor
04-05-20, 12:26
Hi everyone,
Hope everyone is doing good amidst this Corona outbreak.
I shall be travelling to Nairobi in few weeks time after the lockdown is over and wanted to enquire about if any Asian or European girls are available.
Any spa or any clubs where I can get them.
Please help. Want to make my Nairobi trip a memorable one.
Naked Gunz
04-05-20, 17:49
When you sleep, either power off your phone or put it in airplane mode. Someone can unlock your phone by calling your number then answering your phone. Once they do that, they're in.OK, didn't know that fact. Another option is just not trusting the girl to not fuck with your phone and keep changing the pin.
When you sleep, either power off your phone or put it in airplane mode. Someone can unlock your phone by calling your number then answering your phone. Once they do that, they're in.Can you please expand on this post in detail. Given your instructions I am going to experiment and see if I can get this way into my Android phone which is locked with a password.
Naked Gunz
04-06-20, 05:28
Hi everyone,Hope everyone is doing good amidst this Corona outbreak.I shall be travelling to Nairobi in few weeks time after the lockdown is over and wanted to enquire about if any Asian or European girls are available.Any spa or any clubs where I can get them.Please help. Want to make my Nairobi trip a memorable one.I don't' understand going to an African restaurant which specializes in delectable meaty butt and breast to find egg foo young or fish and chips hidden in the corner of the kitchen.
Naked Gunz
04-06-20, 05:38
When you sleep, either power off your phone or put it in airplane mode. Someone can unlock your phone by calling your number then answering your phone. Once they do that, they're in.No it didn't work after I tried it on the iPhone. During the call it wanted the finger or passcode to access inside.
Hi everyone,
......and wanted to enquire about if any Asian or European girls are available.
You are Indian national--right? Travel to Europe or Asia to satisfy your taste. Or are you not allowed to do that?
Kenya is ground zero for black booties. And I hope that white women's rights activists stay out.
AttilaTheHun
08-03-20, 03:18
I absolutely agree. Only the chicas try to rob and steal from you. The most important rule. Never go into relationship. Fuck and forget.
Neddy.If I understood you correctly in your previous posts you recommend avoiding pros and just go with the students and the waitresses. It's part of you stress avoidance strategy. You are also advice against having relationships. My question is do you pay the students and waitresses all the time? Do you pay them most of the time? You also mentioned that you like to get new girls who just came from the countryside to the city. You have the skill to kn ow where to look for them, find them and hunt those fresh games down in the city. Where do you usually see them? What places? Are you upfront telling them that you pay them for being with you?
If I understood you correctly in your previous posts you recommend avoiding pros and just go with the students and the waitresses. It's part of you stress avoidance strategy. You are also advice against having relationships. My question is do you pay the students and waitresses all the time? Do you pay them most of the time? You also mentioned that you like to get new girls who just came from the countryside to the city. You have the skill to kn ow where to look for them, find them and hunt those fresh games down in the city. Where do you usually see them? What places? Are you upfront telling them that you pay them for being with you?Of course you pay. Its Africa. Only sun is free as willyboy put it so aptly. A payment is expected. Its called "transport money". Places? Any place. Its Africa. How to spot? That's experience. I avoid shagging pros. But that doesn't mean I don't shag them too occasionally. I don't discriminate. But I avoid the potentially troublesome ones.
Neddy.
Of course you pay. Its Africa. Only sun is free as willyboy put it so aptly. A payment is expected. Its called "transport money". Places? Any place. Its Africa. How to spot? That's experience. I avoid shagging pros. But that doesn't mean I don't shag them too occasionally. I don't discriminate. But I avoid the potentially troublesome ones.
Neddy.Ass, Grass or Gas no one rides for free in Africa.
Hello guys,
Here I am with a very late trip report. It all started December 2018 when I decided to do a black girl, not my first, but specifically an African girl so I hunted on FB and made contact with a couple. My choice was a classy Nairobi girl and of course although she has a well paid job she behaved like a slay queen about money. Since Africa is not the safest place I wanted to meet her in my backyard which would be Thailand so arrange a visa and ticket for her I thought. At that point I had joined this fine board and posted my plan. I got a lot of advice which I followed and I was about to just make my trip to Kenya but on February 2019 slay queen and I parted. So what to do, the heck with Africa and I bought a ticket to Thailand for April 2019 and had a blast during the song kran festival as I met a nice 22 year old girl on the second day with whom I spent the rest of my 2 weeks holidays. Somehow I still craved for an African girl and when I got back home I got in touch with a Ugandan girl (Let's call her Jenny) but she was difficult and I had a hard time taking her seriously not even for a meeting. It was then when I discovered "groups" so on late May 2019 I joined my first group and MAN I got attention and inboxes, it was a gold mine, an endless wealth of beautiful women just craving for attention and plans of meeting. Nudes were raining and all of a sudden the problem was who do I meet. Now as weeks went on I decided to make the trip in October 2019 which I did. Since at first I got most attention from Kenyans I bought my ticket to Kenya. Everything was going well when suddenly Ugandan Jenny decided to step up and she was the most dedicated and sweet girl I have ever met. Hmmm I was still suspicious but after all I had spoken with her mom and friends and her FB was much about me. She seemed all serious. So I agreed to meet her and provided funds for her bus ticket to Nairobi and a stay on a hotel near the Nairobi bus station. She arrived early morning and my flight in the afternoon. But she decided to meet me at the airport on my arrival which she did. Luckily the airport is tiny so we practically couldn't miss each other even if we had tried. There was some drama because my safaricom sim wasn't working and an other girl came to meet me as well but good thing Jenny and I made it to the hotel. First night not much happened but in the morning hmmm well that's when the fun commenced. I wasn't happy with the size of the room so I gave The Emerald a call and shifted there. The Emerald room was huge, it even had a living room and more fun there. Close to clubs, esp Diamonds, loved that place. We also traveled to Mombasa and I made the huge mistake of going to Bonfire and let the agent give me a offer. For the SGR tickets (first class tho), three nights and the Bliss plus all meals and transfer I gave 80 K KSH. I know that was insane. But I still must say I had a blast with Jenny it was the most amazing GF experience ever, even more than I could dream of. Then we went back to Nairobi and her mom and an other relative came to see me. It was nice really nice and they were lovely. And after that I flew home. So all in all I had one of my best vacations ever, food was OK, no problems with anything nor anyone. Women came on to me even if I was with Ugandan Jenny, at the hotel I got a phone number from titty Kikuyu, at the clubs I was hit on trice I was king of the hip. Only one thing was annoying the beggars, reminded me of the tailors in Thailand but this buggers follow you for miles. Oh and a taxi driver who wanted 3 K although we had agreed on 2 K but I refused and luckily it didn't end in a fight but the moron was pissed beyond belief. I was advised to keep my things on an aluminum case and use a chain and padlock. I didn't but still made it without any incident, maybe I was lucky. Like most of the old hands here say Africa is not for everyone, love it or leave it. Well, I must say Africa is definitely for me, I just regret not coming sooner. I was supposed to travel again on April this year but the virus crap forced me to change my plans. I would like to make a trip within a week. Is it possible? There are flights but the information about entry I find it confusing. It sounds like you can end up locked up for two weeks on practically no grounds. I have heard of guys travelling to Kenya recently but I can't confirm. I would appreciate your advice on this. Thank you for the attention.
Gilgamesh72
12-08-20, 01:29
It was then when I discovered "groups".What groups? Can you explain what do you mean by groups?
What groups? Can you explain what do you mean by groups?Interracial dating groups, those are all over Facebook and even on Whatsapp. Basically black women from all over Africa also Jamaica some even from the states and non black guys trying to find a partner.
JohnReter335
12-12-20, 21:30
What groups? Can you explain what do you mean by groups?Maybe he is talking about the escort groups.
JohnReter335
12-12-20, 21:36
You are Indian national--right? Travel to Europe or Asia to satisfy your taste. Or are you not allowed to do that?
Kenya is ground zero for black booties. And I hope that white women's rights activists stay out.Yes I think he is not allowed to do that.
Nope, I'm talking about interracial dating groups, basically black women looking to kook up with white guys. Didn't I write that?
Maybe he is talking about the escort groups.
Happy 2021 to all first.
And now for the big question. I read reports in October last year that Kenya would stop visa on arrival per January 1st 2021 . Haven't heard about it since. Sodid they stop visa on arrival or not?
Happy 2021 to all first.
And now for the big question. I read reports in October last year that Kenya would stop visa on arrival per January 1st 2021 . Haven't heard about it since. Sodid they stop visa on arrival or not?From what I have heard locally here, yes.
And not just that. It seems you will only get a 1 month visa. Which can be extended, online only, for 2 months. Unsure if it can be extended beyond that.
So no more 90 days on entry and 90 days extension for 2200 KES at immigration.
Online extension via efns is a nightmare. I got my extension via a contact, the kitu kidogo way.
Himbersaft
01-12-21, 21:33
From what I have heard locally here, yes.
And not just that. It seems you will only get a 1 month visa. Which can be extended, online only, for 2 months. Unsure if it can be extended beyond that.
So no more 90 days on entry and 90 days extension for 2200 KES at immigration.
Online extension via efns is a nightmare. I got my extension via a contact, the kitu kidogo way.Yes, only E- VISA aviable since 2 January 2021, the airline check the E- Visa on the Check-in procedere.
Here the link for the E-Visa:
www.evisa.go.ke
Hello guys,
Here I am with a very late trip report. It all started December 2018 when I decided to do a black girl, not my first, but specifically an African girl so I hunted on FB and made contact with a couple. My choice was a classy Nairobi girl and of course although she has a well paid job she behaved like a slay queen about money. Since Africa is not the safest place I wanted to meet her in my backyard which would be Thailand so arrange a visa and ticket for her I thought. At that point I had joined this fine board and posted my plan. I got a lot of advice which I followed and I was about to just make my trip to Kenya but on February 2019 slay queen and I parted. So what to do, the heck with Africa and I bought a ticket to Thailand for April 2019 and had a blast during the song kran festival as I met a nice 22 year old girl on the second day with whom I spent the rest of my 2 weeks holidays. Somehow I still craved for an African girl and when I got back home I got in touch with a Ugandan girl (Let's call her Jenny) but she was difficult and I had a hard time taking her seriously not even for a meeting. It was then when I discovered "groups" so on late May 2019 I joined my first group and MAN I got attention and inboxes, it was a gold mine, an endless wealth of beautiful women just craving for attention and plans of meeting. Nudes were raining and all of a sudden the problem was who do I meet. Now as weeks went on I decided to make the trip in October 2019 which I did. Since at first I got most attention from Kenyans I bought my ticket to Kenya. Everything was going well when suddenly Ugandan Jenny decided to step up and she was the most dedicated and sweet girl I have ever met. Hmmm I was still suspicious but after all I had spoken with her mom and friends and her FB was much about me. She seemed all serious. So I agreed to meet her and provided funds for her bus ticket to Nairobi and a stay on a hotel near the Nairobi bus station. She arrived early morning and my flight in the afternoon. But she decided to meet me at the airport on my arrival which she did. Luckily the airport is tiny so we practically couldn't miss each other even if we had tried. There was some drama because my safaricom sim wasn't working and an other girl came to meet me as well but good thing Jenny and I made it to the hotel..Is it currently a curfew (as the embassy states) in the big cities of Kenya such as Nairobi, Mombasa, etc or not?
Is it currently a curfew (as the embassy states) in the big cities of Kenya such as Nairobi, Mombasa, etc or not?Yes, you have to leave establishments at 9 pm and be home by 10 pm, expected to stay until March.
Yes, you have to leave establishments at 9 pm and be home by 10 pm, expected to stay until March.OK thank you for responding. I'm seeing somewhere it says 10 pm to 4 am but nonetheless I expect to arrive after 3/12/21 when it expires. Any word on if nightlife exists there even with curfew?
Hi all. I've been reading through the forum and appreciate all the info and reports. One thing I haven't found is information on private villa. I was hoping to avoid the hotels if possible. Air BnB? Thank you.
Not the best of news for those of us hoping to make a return to Kenya in the near future.
https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/65844-govt-sets-curfew-7pm-13-counties
The government has imposed tighter curfew restrictions on 13 counties in the North West of the country due to increased covid infections. It was noted a few weeks ago that Kisumu was becoming a hot spot. It would seem a much larger area is now a problem.
I think that with the lack of a large, effective program to vaccinate the population this will continue to be all to common.
Ok, that's all the bad news for now.
I just realise that my flight will land around 10 pm or basically at the beginning of the night curfew. Last night I checked Uber and it was working around 11 pm or at least it showed that they are cars around the airport and you can use the app. But the Bolt app said it's not possible to use it during the curfew. Can you help me with some info? Can you actually use Uber on the airport after 10 pm? Are they working? As far as I know I can use the normal taxi but I don't want to pay 4000 KES when I can pay 800. And I just don't like these taxi sharks around the airport.
Member #4740
07-26-21, 08:30
But the Bolt app said it's not possible to use it during the curfew. Can you help me with some info? Can you actually use Uber on the airport after 10 pm? Are they working? .By the time you land in Kenya Tesla Robotaxi will be available and no curfew or Covid for years.
By the time you land in Kenya Tesla Robotaxi will be available and no curfew or Covid for years.Thank you for the advice. You must be very proud of your sense of humour. I bet everyone is impressed. Wondering what's the quality of your other 2 posts. I bet they are reviews with great value for our little community here.
Been reading reports, Kenya requires a COVID PCR Test for entrance. Is there any validity to that? Does it need to be uploaded to some website prior to arrival or can you provide a hardcopy?
Also what is the going donation now?
ChocolateHuntr
09-11-21, 12:12
Been reading reports, Kenya requires a COVID PCR Test for entrance. Is there any validity to that? Does it need to be uploaded to some website prior to arrival or can you provide a hardcopy?
Also what is the going donation now?Yes, a printed PCR test (taken no more than 96 hours before entry) is required. You will show this document at your departure airport during check in, then again upon arrival in Kenya.
You can also now buy an e-visa online (versus buying one on arrival) for entry to Kenya. The price is the same for both: $51 USD.
Albert9989
09-11-21, 12:17
Yes, a negative PCR test (in printed hard copy) is required for entry. You will show this document at your departure airport during check in, then again upon arrival in Kenya.
You can also now buy an e-visa online (versus buying one on arrival) for entry to Kenya. The price is the same for both: $51 USD.And if you are fully vaccinated there is no need for a PCR test, but you have to create your QR Code anyway with their application.
For the visa now its only the online process, you must buy it before travelling.
I spent 15 days from last 15 August to 30.
Hi,
Does anyone know if UK passport holders still need to self isolate (assume at hotel?) for 7 days even if flying to Kenya after a few weeks in Tanzania?
Also I read no need for a PCR test if fully vaccinated?
Hi,
Does anyone know if UK passport holders still need to self isolate (assume at hotel?) for 7 days even if flying to Kenya after a few weeks in Tanzania?
Also I read no need for a PCR test if fully vaccinated?Where did you read that fully vaccinated do not need PRC test?
Everywhere I have looked so far it has been said that vaccines also need a test certificate.
SceticoBlu
09-23-21, 07:46
Where did you read that fully vaccinated do not need PRC test?
Albert has claimed that here but later corrected it in the Mombasa forum.
Not so clear is the requirement of a PCR Test when leaving Kenya. Though it is officially demanded one might swindle out without it.
Albert9989
09-23-21, 12:39
Albert has claimed that here but later corrected it in the Mombasa forum.
Not so clear is the requirement of a PCR Test when leaving Kenya. Though it is officially demanded one might swindle out without it.Yes I corrected, for entry a PCR test less than 96 h was needed and their qrcode also.
But for leaving nothing is requested, its the destination that request things, for France as I was vaccinated nothing more was needed to leave Kenya and enter in France. But others who were going to France also but via Dubai and Swiss needed a PCR test for the step in Dubai and the one in Switzerland.
Been reading reports, Kenya requires a COVID PCR Test for entrance. Is there any validity to that? Does it need to be uploaded to some website prior to arrival or can you provide a hardcopy?
Also what is the going donation now?I will answer my own question now and hope it helps others. PCR Test is required for entry. Health Officials check it as soon as you get off the plane even before you reach passport control. And it must be with 96 hours to the minute. If you are 15 minute over your time, you will have an issue. You have to create an account with them to setup an appointment to take the test. Here is the link https://portal.nairobiwesthospital.com/register. They take Mpesa, credit card or cash at the cashiers cage.
Now leaving the country, since I flew Emirates, it was required to leave the country. They check it at the airport. I went to Nairobi West Hospital, had my results the same day. It is a very efficient process. Cost 5000 kes.
I had plenty of fun there, and I am heading back soon.
Although a PCR test is no longer required (QR is still required) for fully vaccinated inbound travelers, I was wondering where everyone is getting their PCR tests prior to leaving Kenya. USA requires 24 hour negative PCR results blah blah blah... The airlines list accepted labs but, I was just wondering if someone has advice.
PS... Thanks. Getsum, for sharing your experience
Although a PCR test is no longer required (QR is still required) for fully vaccinated inbound travelers, I was wondering where everyone is getting their PCR tests prior to leaving Kenya. USA requires 24 hour negative PCR results blah blah blah... The airlines list accepted labs but, I was just wondering if someone has advice.
PS... Thanks. Getsum, for sharing your experienceI had a PCR test done (not a rapid / quick test) at the Nairobi West Hospital. Result was emailed to me about 5 h later. Costs: 4500 kes.
Although a PCR test is no longer required (QR is still required) for fully vaccinated inbound travelers, I was wondering where everyone is getting their PCR tests prior to leaving Kenya. USA requires 24 hour negative PCR results blah blah blah... The airlines list accepted labs but, I was just wondering if someone has advice.
PS... Thanks. Getsum, for sharing your experienceMP Shah Laboratory (Kenya, Nairobi).
Shivachi road P. O. Box 144897-00800.
I think I paid 6000 shillings it too ten hours for the results to come back.
Since I had to return to the US and my flight was 11:35 PM, I needed a negative PCR test the same day.
I used Nairobi West Hospital (open 24-7); I registered online the day before.
While registering online, I had to wait long periods (as much as 30 min) for the hospital website to respond to each online form.
People who are unable to register online can go to the hospital and register in person. The wait in line may be very long.
I went to the Hospital around 9 am Saturday and waited in line (5th in line) for about 45 min. They checked my registration then took KES 4,500 for results to be due in 5 hours.
They sent me to a second line where they gave me a test kit and directed me to a milking machine through the glass.
My results came to me via email in just 2 hours.
I was required to show the emailed results to enter the airport and to check onto the flight.
Once back in USA, no one asked for PCR results or proof of vaccination.
In addition to the Health Ministry QR (https://ears.health.go.ke/airline_registration/), instead of a PCR test, you can prove you are fully vaccinated. You can't use your shot records. (for now).
To prove you are fully vaccinated, you must add your vaccinations then print out a QR from the GlobalHaven site (https://globalhaven.org/).
The site is not easy to navigate. Print the QR during that same session. If you can access your QR afterward in a later session to produce the QR, you're better than me.
Dick Milhous
06-20-22, 19:17
Since I had to return to the US and my flight was 11:35 PM, I needed a negative PCR test the same day.
Once back in USA, no one asked for PCR results or proof of vaccination.Curious if any USA departures have suspended this requirement.
https://businesstravelerusa.com/news/us-lifts-pre-departure-testing-requirement/
Curious if any USA departures have suspended this requirement.
https://businesstravelerusa.com/news/us-lifts-pre-departure-testing-requirement/As of 20 June 2022.
https://www.health.go.ke/covid-19-ministry-of-health-reinstates-mandatory-wearing-of-masks-in-confined-spaces/
During my first trip to an African country (Ghana), I was advised that whatever African country I may be in, to stay away during elections. Don't be lulled into the impression the election will always be peaceful. Hope for the best but plan for the worst. I will take the advice of those old veterans.
If you stay this year, the locals tell me to stay away from Nairobi but especially stay away from Kisumu and Eldoret.
During my first trip to an African country (Ghana), I was advised that whatever African country I may be in, to stay away during elections. Don't be lulled into the impression the election will always be peaceful. Hope for the best but plan for the worst. I will take the advice of those old veterans.
If you stay this year, the locals tell me to stay away from Nairobi but especially stay away from Kisumu and Eldoret.Definitely good advice.
While I agree that elections are not the best of times it depends very much where you base yourself. In the case of Kenya I somehow managed to be there in 2013 when Uhuru was sworn in. I was in Kenya travelling in 2017 post election. I was in Mtwapa holing up with a nice girl watching Citizen TV. After I travelled to Kisumu when the high court annulled the elections. Pandemonium on the streets. I stayed indoors and had food delivered. Next day all over. Right now there's pre election violence mostly in slums in Nakuru also in CBD and in mount Kenya District. It's mostly voter indimidation. Violent crimes robberies rapes committed by youth gangs. But Mtwapa will most likely not be really affected. It'll be quiet as especially Kikuyu traders close shop and move upcountry. The population is totally mixed here. And the bad guys I. E. Gangs roam more Bamburi Shanzu I. E. Mombasa District.
Mwalimu.
Further footnote. I was in Gambia when they toppled Jammeh. And in Sansibar during elections in 2020. Ask me.
Slowalk, I read you live in Western Kenya. What kind of mongering options have you got there?
I had arrived new years eve 2007 in the hotel near Mtwapa. Those days I still went with an all-in arrangement, so with flights, transfers to and from the airport and all-in food and drinks in the hotel.
Because of serious post-election unrest all over Kenya the situation was declared unsafe by most embassies and we had to return to Europe by force.
So after few days in Kenya we were forced to leave by the travel organization, otherwise one would lose all rights of accommodation, return flight etc.
Thus we went by bus to the airport, with a policeman armed with a machinegun in the front.
We took the route via Nyali as we were told the main road to Mombasa was too dangerous, as there were riots and blockades in Bombolulu etc.
Anyway we arrived safely at the airport and had a normal flight back.
I even had the money refunded for the days that I had not enjoyed the planned holidays.
Definitely good advice.
While I agree that elections are not the best of times it depends very much where you base yourself. In the case of Kenya I somehow managed to be there in 2013 when Uhuru was sworn in. I was in Kenya travelling in 2017 post election. I was in Mtwapa holing up with a nice girl watching Citizen TV. After I travelled to Kisumu when the high court annulled the elections. Pandemonium on the streets. I stayed indoors and had food delivered. Next day all over. Right now there's pre election violence mostly in slums in Nakuru also in CBD and in mount Kenya District. It's mostly voter indimidation. Violent crimes robberies rapes committed by youth gangs. But Mtwapa will most likely not be really affected. It'll be quiet as especially Kikuyu traders close shop and move upcountry. The population is totally mixed here. And the bad guys I. E. Gangs roam more Bamburi Shanzu I. E. Mombasa District.
Mwalimu.
Further footnote. I was in Gambia when they toppled Jammeh. And in Sansibar during elections in 2020. Ask me.I was in Kenya in the end of 1997, I remember the killings in Likoni, almost no one in the deserted streets of Mombasa, a very strange feeling of danger. My girl friend Kikuyu was afraid, I advised her to be the Kikuyu cousin of the wife of a better known Digo and she calmed down. We didn't have any problems.
It is by far harder getting rid of them. I move around and keep moving.
No matter where in Africa, I meet them doing normal activities and during sunlight hours. Eventually it becomes overwhelming and I " flee. ".
Maybe another actual African traveler can get this fact across better. Many have tried.
There are so many fraud posters in the forum that it throws people off from that message.
It is by far harder getting rid of them. I move around and keep moving.
No matter where in Africa, I meet them doing normal activities and during sunlight hours. Eventually it becomes overwhelming and I " flee. ".
Maybe another actual African traveler can get this fact across better. Many have tried.
There are so many fraud posters in the forum that it throws people off from that message.Getting rid of them, the ladies?
I go by a strict rules, I do not socialist with them, I do not date them, I do not pay their rent, I do not contribute to their Grans 7th death funeral fund, or school fees, malari treatment. I call them for a fuck and that happens once if they are not very good, twice if they are and three if exceptional, never ever keep them overnight. They know the exact amount they will receive for their time, end of deal.
Never had a problem living by that.
Gutenberg1
08-07-22, 19:31
Did anybody her used to travel to Kenya via ADD? Did they ask for anything like vaccine prof?
Minty Polo
08-13-22, 21:15
Looks like I made a rookie mistake of booking flights with Kenya airways from London to Mombasa and then back from Nairobi to London. I had cheaper options with better airlines but with long layovers so paid the extra for KQ but everyone keeps saying they will add in delays which will be worse than layovers and that their service is shocking.
Anyone have personal experience flying with them?
Looks like I made a rookie mistake of booking flights with Kenya airways from London to Mombasa and then back from Nairobi to London. I had cheaper options with better airlines but with long layovers so paid the extra for KQ but everyone keeps saying they will add in delays which will be worse than layovers and that their service is shocking.
Anyone have personal experience flying with them?Never had a real delay or problem with them on the Nbo-Ams routes in 20 yrs.
Since I had to return to the US and my flight was 11:35 PM, I needed a negative PCR test the same day.
My results came to me via email in just 2 hours.
I was required to show the emailed results to enter the airport and to check onto the flight.
Once back in USA, no one asked for PCR results or proof of vaccination.Nobody asked you for anything as document checks are done at origin check in: valid travelling document, entitlement to enter final destination, medical certificates.
That's the way it goes on worldwide air travel. Has always been like this. Failing on one document, one will be denied boarding.
Nobody asked you for anything as document checks are done at origin check in: valid travelling document, entitlement to enter final destination, medical certificates.
That's the way it goes on worldwide air travel. Has always been like this. Failing on one document, one will be denied boarding.The Kenyan health line at NBO rechecked my health requirements when I arrived. You will be unable to board the plane but Kenya still checks after the flight and before immigration.
I'll let you know when I return in a couple weeks.
Minty Polo
08-20-22, 07:53
Where are the best places in Mombasa and Nairobi to exchange GBP to Kenyan Shillings? Also do you need to take your passport with you when exchanging currency?
Where are the best places in Mombasa and Nairobi to exchange GBP to Kenyan Shillings? Also do you need to take your passport with you when exchanging currency?In Nbi depending on where you are staying but there exchange bureaus in town or cbd as the locals call it. There are 2 I use on Mama Ngina St in the 20th century building. Yes, you need your passport. In Nbi it is best to carry your passport with you as plenty of Police know it is a possible shakedown for them if you don't.
In Mombasa go to Cheers bar at Bora Bora, the very end shop aside the petrol station ask for Mike, in the back of the shop he has an exchange, always better rates than the touts outside.
Albert9989
08-22-22, 09:38
Where are the best places in Mombasa and Nairobi to exchange GBP to Kenyan Shillings? Also do you need to take your passport with you when exchanging currency?For me the best solution has been to buy a sim card in a safaricom good shop and instal and activate mpesa.
Then you can pay everything through mpesa, hitel, restaurant, bottle of water along the road, massage, girls, anything or anyone has mpesa here.
No more cash in pocket.
Just load your mpesa via western union or worldremit or any other way to send money to your mpesa account.
But keep your phone loaded.
And by security keep some small cash just in case.
Currency exchange rate will be the one of your bank used to send money.
Mine use the exact rate of the day, no extra charge, no commission, just 0. 99 euros for worldremit for each transfer.
Minty Polo
08-22-22, 21:01
In Nbi depending on where you are staying but there exchange bureaus in town or cbd as the locals call it. There are 2 I use on Mama Ngina St in the 20th century building. Yes, you need your passport. In Nbi it is best to carry your passport with you as plenty of Police know it is a possible shakedown for them if you don't.
In Mombasa go to Cheers bar at Bora Bora, the very end shop aside the petrol station ask for Mike, in the back of the shop he has an exchange, always better rates than the touts outside.The current rate for £ GBP / KSH in the UK is 135.3, is it better in Kenya right now? I'm pretty sure I got worse rates in Kenya compared to what I could get in the UK.
For me the best solution has been to buy a sim card in a safaricom good shop and instal and activate mpesa.
Then you can pay everything through mpesa, hitel, restaurant, bottle of water along the road, massage, girls, anything or anyone has mpesa here.
No more cash in pocket.
Just load your mpesa via western union or worldremit or any other way to send money to your mpesa account.
But keep your phone loaded.
And by security keep some small cash just in case.
Currency exchange rate will be the one of your bank used to send money.
Mine use the exact rate of the day, no extra charge, no commission, just 0. 99 euros for worldremit for each transfer.I am lying to everybody that I don't have mpesa and that I don't know how to use it. I get constant requests to send money because of sickness / accident / could not pay rent / birthday or just to send 200 shillings to get some food.
Especially I insist that I don't know how to send money from wordremit to mpesa, and that I don't want to know although many girls tell me that it is easy (true) and they will teach me how to do it. They want some support even though you are not in country.
Albert9989
08-23-22, 04:24
I am lying to everybody that I don't have mpesa and that I don't know how to use it. I get constant requests to send money because of sickness / accident / could not pay rent / birthday or just to send 200 shillings to get some food.
Especially I insist that I don't know how to send money from wordremit to mpesa, and that I don't want to know although many girls tell me that it is easy (true) and they will teach me how to do it. They want some support even though you are not in country.Haha yes, fully agreed, that's a strategy that can be very helpful.
The current rate for GBP / KSH in the UK is 135.3, is it better in Kenya right now? I'm pretty sure I got worse rates in Kenya compared to what I could get in the UK.139 here in Kenya for £.
Minty Polo
08-23-22, 22:15
139 here in Kenya for .Where can you get that rate? In the place you advised previously?
Where are the best places in Mombasa and Nairobi to exchange GBP to Kenyan Shillings? Also do you need to take your passport with you when exchanging currency?As others have said, get a Safaricom SIM card and have Safaricom activate mPESA. Use Wise, WorlRemit, etc.
If you can find a grocery store or business to exchange, it's the best rates. I used a grocery store in Dianne Beach side of Mombasa. The Forex in Nairobi Central and NBO require your passport. Beware of KRA (Tax) and police lingering outside. They're looking for an opportunity to shake someone down. Taxi drivers are often in on the scam so don't let the driver drop you in front of the forex.
Albert9989
08-25-22, 21:27
As others have said, get a Safaricom SIM card and have Safaricom activate mPESA. Use Wise, WorlRemit, etc.
If you can find a grocery store or business to exchange, it's the best rates. I used a grocery store in Dianne Beach side of Mombasa. The Forex in Nairobi Central and NBO require your passport. Beware of KRA (Tax) and police lingering outside. They're looking for an opportunity to shake someone down. Taxi drivers are often in on the scam so don't let the driver drop you in front of the forex.I agree, but I still don't really understand why to exchange. Mpesa is so easy to use. Too much sometimes.
As others have said, get a Safaricom SIM card and have Safaricom activate mPESA. Use Wise, WorlRemit, etc.
If you can find a grocery store or business to exchange, it's the best rates. I used a grocery store in Dianne Beach side of Mombasa. The Forex in Nairobi Central and NBO require your passport. Beware of KRA (Tax) and police lingering outside. They're looking for an opportunity to shake someone down. Taxi drivers are often in on the scam so don't let the driver drop you in front of the forex.How is police trying to get your money in this particular situation? They are checking if you have passport if not then bribe needed?
Albert9989
08-26-22, 11:33
As others have said, get a Safaricom SIM card and have Safaricom activate mPESA. Use Wise, WorlRemit, etc.
If you can find a grocery store or business to exchange, it's the best rates. I used a grocery store in Dianne Beach side of Mombasa. The Forex in Nairobi Central and NBO require your passport. Beware of KRA (Tax) and police lingering outside. They're looking for an opportunity to shake someone down. Taxi drivers are often in on the scam so don't let the driver drop you in front of the forex.But when you have your mpesa there is no more need to go to forex or anywhere else to change money.
Mpesa+worldremit and that's all.
By security go to an ATM to collect a small amount of cash to keep in case of need but all the rest is paid via mpesa.
How is police trying to get your money in this particular situation? They are checking if you have passport if not then bribe needed?You are supposed to carry ID in Kenya, so a tourist a passport.
If they stop you and you are not carrying it then it is the story of they will arrest you, take you to court in the morning or just detain you and mess you around all day etc etc to solicit a bribe.
If you are an unexperienced traveller then it works for them or if you don't want the hassle and pay up.
In actual fact the law I believe states you would have to go to the local Police station within 24 hrs and produce ID to clear this. It happens in Nbi now and again but I have only heard of it once in Msa.
You are supposed to carry ID in Kenya, so a tourist a passport.
If they stop you and you are not carrying it then it is the story of they will arrest you, take you to court in the morning or just detain you and mess you around all day etc etc to solicit a bribe.
If you are an unexperienced traveller then it works for them or if you don't want the hassle and pay up.
In actual fact the law I believe states you would have to go to the local Police station within 24 hrs and produce ID to clear this. It happens in Nbi now and again but I have only heard of it once in Msa.That is good to know that 24 hour rule. I never carry passport by myself because I am losing so much stuff always, that is too valuable thing to get lost or stolen.
Once some years ago when Big Tree was still place for big events, group of police came there to "keep order". They saw me and started friendly talk and asked then if I am carrying passport. I did not have so they started to tell me what a crime it was and I am going to end up in jail and court. But I was a Big Tree hotel guest then, and even hotel manager happened to walk by just then. Disappointed policemen started to bother local people then, I did not understand what excuse they used with them since they spoke swahili.
In curfew time police managed to rob me couple of time because I did not have mask in my face, I had to pay. Talk about court, 20 or 40 kilo fine, three months in jail and deportation for ever. Second time I think it was not real police, just a guy in uniform, I realized it later.
But I also managed to escape them couple of times in the street by going to the bar and to toilet directly. And, in Greenwood I survived big raid because some friendly hotel guests hide me in their room, some musungus I know and many I did not know went to jail for 10 hours that night.
SceticoBlu
08-27-22, 09:23
They try it with the passport and law is on their side. I even have been asked for the yellow fever certificate in the Uhuru park of Nairobi.
You are supposed to carry ID in Kenya, so a tourist a passport.I always carry a copy of my passport, with a nice shining cover with also a copy of the latest entry stamp.
However in all those years I was never asked to show it.
I also have a copy of my driving licence that I showed once at a roadblock, the cop asked me why I did not carry the original licence, but I told him I never carry that one to the. Beach and I got away with it.
However it seems I am lucky most of the time. Once a police stopped me with the car because I had crossed the line while overtaking. He gave me stern warning but then he told me, I let you go, because you are a Mzee.
Also during lockdown I had a few narrow escapes. But that was also because the lady who was with me did a lot of talking. They took her instead, but I had 1000 delivered to the police station and then they let her go. It helped also the cop who took her was of the same tribe.
How is police trying to get your money in this particular situation? They are checking if you have passport if not then bribe needed?I stay mostly around in western Kenya where only the banks exchange money at poor rates. Normally I convert mPESA to cash but since I have USD, I exchange USD to KSh when I pass through civilization.
Once in Nairobi CBD, I grow impatient with Uber so I have the hotel get a taxi. I negotiate a price to my destination with a diversion to a FOREX. I ride in the front seat. There is no parking near the FOREX. I tell the taxi to let me out then drive around the block and pick me up when he see's me standing at a predetermined spot out of site of the FOREX. I notice a police and another plain clothed man lingering outside the FOREX as I exit the taxi. I assume the police is guarding the FOREX. I finish but the taxi is waiting in the street in front of the FOREX, not near my designated spot. I exit the FOREX and jump into my taxi front seat. Immediately, the plain clothe man comes up to my window, identifies himself as a KRA agent and asks me if I own the car. I look at him and say nothing. The guy keeps talking then shouts. I look straight ahead; I refuse to listening to him. The taxi driver begins to talk to the guy for a few minutes. It turns to yelling and I tell the guy to go yell on the other side of the vehicle. The driver eventually exits the vehicle and the two go behind the vehicle. The taxi remains right there in the street The driver returns and we drive off. The driver claims he paid the KRA agent 2 k for illegally parking. The driver wants me to add the same amount to my fare. I tell him the KRA has no jurisdiction. He says the police was in on it and would've arrested him if he refused to pay. I get to my destination and give him the original agreed on price then tell him I plan on telling the hotel that I won't be using him anymore.
I stay mostly around in western Kenya where only the banks exchange money at poor rates. Normally I convert mPESA to cash but since I have USD, I exchange USD to KSh when I pass through civilization.
Once in Nairobi CBD, I grow impatient with Uber so I have the hotel get a taxi. I negotiate a price to my destination with a diversion to a FOREX. I ride in the front seat. There is no parking near the FOREX. I tell the taxi to let me out then drive around the block and pick me up when he see's me standing at a predetermined spot out of site of the FOREX. I notice a police and another plain clothed man lingering outside the FOREX as I exit the taxi. I assume the police is guarding the FOREX. I finish but the taxi is waiting in the street in front of the FOREX, not near my designated spot. I exit the FOREX and jump into my taxi front seat. Immediately, the plain clothe man comes up to my window, identifies himself as a KRA agent and asks me if I own the car. I look at him and say nothing. The guy keeps talking then shouts. I look straight ahead; I refuse to listening to him. The taxi driver begins to talk to the guy for a few minutes. It turns to yelling and I tell the guy to go yell on the other side of the vehicle. The driver eventually exits the vehicle and the two go behind the vehicle. The taxi remains right there in the street The driver returns and we drive off. The driver claims he paid the KRA agent 2 k for illegally parking. The driver wants me to add the same amount to my fare. I tell him the KRA has no jurisdiction. He says the police was in on it and would've arrested him if he refused to pay. I get to my destination and give him the original agreed on price then tell him I plan on telling the hotel that I won't be using him anymore.The driver may of paid him something but that bill has nothing to do with you, you rightly told him so. Everything is a scam and a con in Kenya, they just can't help themselves, the greediest money hungry worshipping people I've ever known.
I stay mostly around in western Kenya where only the banks exchange money at poor rates. Normally I convert mPESA to cash but since I have USD, I exchange USD to KSh when I pass through civilization.
Once in Nairobi CBD, I grow impatient with Uber so I have the hotel get a taxi. I negotiate a price to my destination with a diversion to a FOREX. I ride in the front seat. There is no parking near the FOREX. I tell the taxi to let me out then drive around the block and pick me up when he see's me standing at a predetermined spot out of site of the FOREX. I notice a police and another plain clothed man lingering outside the FOREX as I exit the taxi. I assume the police is guarding the FOREX. I finish but the taxi is waiting in the street in front of the FOREX, not near my designated spot. I exit the FOREX and jump into my taxi front seat. Immediately, the plain clothe man comes up to my window, identifies himself as a KRA agent and asks me if I own the car. I look at him and say nothing. The guy keeps talking then shouts. I look straight ahead; I refuse to listening to him. The taxi driver begins to talk to the guy for a few minutes. It turns to yelling and I tell the guy to go yell on the other side of the vehicle. The driver eventually exits the vehicle and the two go behind the vehicle. The taxi remains right there in the street The driver returns and we drive off. The driver claims he paid the KRA agent 2 k for illegally parking. The driver wants me to add the same amount to my fare. I tell him the KRA has no jurisdiction. He says the police was in on it and would've arrested him if he refused to pay. I get to my destination and give him the original agreed on price then tell him I plan on telling the hotel that I won't be using him anymore.The driver may of paid him something but that bill has nothing to do with you, you rightly told him so. Everything is a scam and a con in Kenya, they just can't help themselves, the greediest money hungry worshipping people I've ever known. I am surprised the uniformed policeman did not try the lets see your passport on you.
Gutenberg1
09-23-22, 12:27
Is it possible to change the hotel after your visa got already approved?
Or does this make my visa invalid?
Is it possible to change the hotel after your visa got already approved?
Or does this make my visa invalid?Do what you like, they will not check.
Absolute757
09-25-22, 20:41
So I just got back after a month in nairobi. Its my third time and I never have a lonely night there. I rented a studio apartment in kilimani off airbnb. I liked kilimani. Its safe to walk around and everything is in walking distance. I mostly scored thru tinder and afrointroductions, collecting contacts the week before my trip. I also cold approached a few girls out on the street and the mall. I only went after non-pros or semis. Noone directly asked for pay, but some asked for help. I only paid for the uber ride to my place and 2-3 k for transport home. I tried a massage place called paradise spa two blocks from my airbnb. I walked in and paid the mama san 3 k for an hour massage. Then she took me to a room with a bed and a sofa. She told me to sit on the sofa and then one at a time, girls would come in and introduce themselves. At the end the mama san comes and asks who you choose. You have to remember the name of the girl you like. Luckily for me the last girl was the hottest and I was able to remember her name. She came in and got naked right away. I removed my clothes and got on the bed. She proceeded to give me a pretty weak massage with baby oil. After 10 min I got bored with it and said I want a blow job. She asked for another 3 k. I agreed and then she went to work. Deep throat, ball licking, sloppy and wet like I like it. She took the CIM like a champ. I asked her if she's available outside of work and she said only Tuesdays. I guess that's her only day off. I got her number but never called. I gave the extra 3 k to the mamasan when I was leaving. The girl asked for an additional tip, but I didn't give any. Mostly because I was confused about where the money was going at the end. I thought the 3 k at the end went straight to her but she said it doesn't. I don't believe that but maybe its not a bad idea to tip an extra 1 k. I wanted to go again for a double blow job but I was busy with other dates.
All in all, I had a blast. Probably one of my favorite destinations, up there with the phillipines. Affordable, girls are cool with bb, English is spoken everywhere, and they treat foreigners like VIPs. Of course they are after your money but they treat you well.
Absolute757
09-25-22, 20:57
If anybody is interested. I found this airbnb in kilimani, Nairobi that was perfect. It had a large king bed with springs. And it had an AC which is almost impossible to find in this town. Its cool at night and in the morning but during the day it gets hot especially if your fucking. Another cool feature was that there was LED lighting everywhere and I could change the colors to set the mood. Like I could make it all blue or all red for a sexy atmosphere. The owner was really cool and he asked me to promote his place so ill put it here for anybody interested. He has 2 units exactly the same.
airbnb.com/ h / b607.
Airbnb.com/ h / b206.
Absolute757
09-26-22, 12:28
You are supposed to carry ID in Kenya, so a tourist a passport.
If they stop you and you are not carrying it then it is the story of they will arrest you, take you to court in the morning or just detain you and mess you around all day etc etc to solicit a bribe.
If you are an unexperienced traveller then it works for them or if you don't want the hassle and pay up.
In actual fact the law I believe states you would have to go to the local Police station within 24 hrs and produce ID to clear this. It happens in Nbi now and again but I have only heard of it once in Msa.I had a run in with the Kenyan police once when I was out shopping in the CBD. I was waiting for an uber to leave. I was approached by one officer who started asking me where I'm from. I told him I'm American and he started asking for my passport. I told him I don't carry it around. He asked me why and I said "I don't need a passport for shopping. I need it at the airport. Customs already checked my passport." He looked disappointed, then he checked my shopping bags, gave me a look up and down and then left. I checked online and Kenya doesn't have a law that requires anyone to carry ID. And you only have to identify yourself if a crime has been committed, just like the US. Of course the cops are dirty and they could just rob me if they wanted, but I'm not going to volunteer to be robbed. Those guys are looking for easy targets so when I made it difficult, they just moved on to the next victim.
I had a run in with the Kenyan police once when I was out shopping in the CBD. I was waiting for an uber to leave. I was approached by one officer who started asking me where I'm from. I told him I'm American and he started asking for my passport. I told him I don't carry it around. He asked me why and I said "I don't need a passport for shopping. I need it at the airport. Customs already checked my passport." He looked disappointed, then he checked my shopping bags, gave me a look up and down and then left. I checked online and Kenya doesn't have a law that requires anyone to carry ID. And you only have to identify yourself if a crime has been committed, just like the US. Of course the cops are dirty and they could just rob me if they wanted, but I'm not going to volunteer to be robbed. Those guys are looking for easy targets so when I made it difficult, they just moved on to the next victim.Kenya is not the States.
You are supposed to carry your passport at all time.
How else do they want to check if you are legally in the country.
Arrogance towards policemen can be very costly in Kenya.
Kenya is not the States.
You are supposed to carry your passport at all time.
How else do they want to check if you are legally in the country.
Arrogance towards policemen can be very costly in Kenya.I don't recommend to carry passport with you, it can be easily stolen or lost. Too valuable document to be carried with you, carry a copy and try to deal with police somehow if they start harassing you.
To be clear, the Kenyan constitution does not require you to carry ID.
To be clear, the Kenyan constitution does not require you to carry ID.True, I have never carried my passport with me after immigration check in. Highly risky to carry it with you. Not only in Kenya but elsewhere in the world.
Considering that protocols and guidelines may have changed, does anyone have any boots on the ground knowledge or experience on what is CURRENTLY required to enter Kenya? I read a while back that a Yellow Fever vaccination used to be required to enter Kenya, but now the YF vaccination is only recommended. Is this true or false? I'm staying mostly in the Westland area (Nairobi), and won't be going on any safaris or wild life trips. If time and opportunity permits, I may fly to Mombasa and stay there for a few days.
Any advice or suggestions for entering Kenya will be helpful. FWIW, I am a US citizen. Prior to going to Kenya, I will be coming from Tanzania.
Considering that protocols and guidelines may have changed, does anyone have any boots on the ground knowledge or experience on what is CURRENTLY required to enter Kenya? I read a while back that a Yellow Fever vaccination used to be required to enter Kenya, but now the YF vaccination is only recommended. Is this true or false? I'm staying mostly in the Westland area (Nairobi), and won't be going on any safaris or wild life trips. If time and opportunity permits, I may fly to Mombasa and stay there for a few days.
Any advice or suggestions for entering Kenya will be helpful. FWIW, I am a US citizen. Prior to going to Kenya, I will be coming from Tanzania.Regarding covid, the latest rules can always be found here:
Kcaa. Or. Ke / covid-19/ covid-19-travel-requirements.
No yellow fever needed for TZ to KE, the other way around you need it.
But there is yellow fever in parts of Kenya and it is a once in a lifetime shot.
So I would recommend to get it.
Considering that protocols and guidelines may have changed, does anyone have any boots on the ground knowledge or experience on what is CURRENTLY required to enter Kenya? I read a while back that a Yellow Fever vaccination used to be required to enter Kenya, but now the YF vaccination is only recommended. Is this true or false? I'm staying mostly in the Westland area (Nairobi), and won't be going on any safaris or wild life trips. If time and opportunity permits, I may fly to Mombasa and stay there for a few days.
Any advice or suggestions for entering Kenya will be helpful. FWIW, I am a US citizen. Prior to going to Kenya, I will be coming from Tanzania.No YF required when you arrive from EUROPE. Crossing borders in Africa they might want to see one. For Kenya GlobalHaven vaccine certificate COVID is still mandatory. Or a 1000 KES Note does the magic.
Mwalimu.
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