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AttilaTheHun
11-06-19, 00:44
Morondave is for the discerning 70+ retired monger who wants to cuddle with 30 year plus massage girls or souvenir vendors. If you are looking for an easy lay and wide range of quality chicas that is 7+ no older than 23 don't come here. Here it's down to sheer luck. As there is only a handful mongers on the ground there is no choice. There is some hot girls around at night time.
But buyer beware. M. ors are roaming Insomnia at 2 am. There seems to be no age control at the entrance. Most hot chics are with gasy BFs.
I am sure if you live here as a retired senior monger it is heaven. But you need loads of time. There is no quick game.
But 99% are Lemur tourists passing through to the Alle de Baobabs or the Tsingy.
Here its the passage door for the adventure monger who likes to shag village girls..Speaking of discerning 70+ retired mongers, could someone estimate the average income of those typical retires. I wonder how much money a month a retiree need to have a sexually satisfying and comfortable life there.
I was planing to retire in the Philippines but after learning about Madagascar it seems to be an even better place. I will get around $2000. Will it be enough there?
Speaking of discerning 70+ retired mongers, could someone estimate the average income of those typical retires. I wonder how much money a month a retiree need to have a sexually satisfying and comfortable life there.
I was planing to retire in the Philippines but after learning about Madagascar it seems to be an even better place. I will get around $2000. Will it be enough there?Mate. What you want to do in Mada with that kind of money. Its way too much. LOL. Here it's the minimum pensioners paradise. I know of people who get by on 200 dollars a month. 400 dollars you have a decent lifestyle. 600 dollars you can splurge. With a 1000 dollars you are Demi God. I'd say with a 1000 dollars you do ok anywhere in Mada. With 2000 dollars?? What would somebody do with so much money in Mada. Money is not the problem. You have to let Mada grow on you. The big challenge is WHERE to retire. You should have a squeaky clean bill of health as there is places where there is no doctor. Especially the traffic infrastructure is BAD. The next problem is housing. You can have an own reed hut erected for 70 dollars. A 1000 dollars builds you a big wooden bungalow. 10.000 dollars you get a huge piece of land and a big brick house on it. Except Nosy Be. There you have crazy real estate prices. Then start to learn french. Go and visit it frequently. And fall in love.
La Buse
But Mada keeps you young. Here is a french guy. I found out he's 85!! years. Looking at him I'd have figured he's 65... go figure.
As I am a budget monger I ll give you the lowdown from MY perspective.
First tourist island Nosy Kely. You have wide range of options. IMHO totally useless to spend more than 60 k AR a night unless you insist on a swimming pool.
Morondave Beach hotel. Gives you the best bungalow right off the beach. They also have 35 k AR bungalows but really basic. Even for me. The other ok option on island is Cheval de mer. Good location. Wooden bungalows for 60 k. If you take a month you can trade him down to 50 k.
Options in Town. There is 2 budget places. One is Le Batelage. Old type colonial hotel. Run down. Security dingy. And Hotel Zoom owned by a Karane. Decent enough ventilated rooms. Good security. Good flyscreens. Both go for 30 k ar a night. For a month you can knock them down to 20 k AR.
There is another brand new hotel in town which is absolute luxury option. Take room 201 in Hotel Menabe. Its a 150 k room for the price of 60 k.
Food options. Forget all the restos in the tourist area. Too expensive. Stick to the gargottes. dirt cheap.
I love the breakfast and good Wifi at Bougainvilliers. Good for main meal.
Same as Bleu Soleil.
Another good option is Le gourmandise. food takes long time to prepare.
There's another place in town. good pizza for 14k at fab resto near baobab bank.
For Snacks and Espresso and pastries head to
http://ge0.me/8aV8dT-8WC/Unknown_Place
forgot the name but you can't miss it.
That's the short list which so far didn't give me food poisoning.
La Buse
Morondave is for the discerning 70+ retired monger who wants.For the 'discerning'? For the dead at ss broke! And at 70+, it's the last stop, the endgame: he's dying there. Read between the lines here: there's nothing to do. The appeal is only for foreigners who've managed to reach mid-age with no money. I've been to Morondova twice, and couldn't last a week there either time. There is a worse place in Mada: Fort Dauphin. So let's hear all about that next how little it costs. Bottom line: see as many places as possible, while never losing perspective.
Speaking of discerning 70+ retired mongers, could someone estimate the average income of those typical retires. I wonder how much money a month a retiree need to have a sexually satisfying and comfortable life there.
I was planing to retire in the Philippines but after learning about Madagascar it seems to be an even better place. I will get around $2000. Will it be enough there?You speak French fluent? Yes, true, its a low-cost country but with all those negative points like health care (which is a valid point at age) , infrastructure. Not only transport but also internet, banking, electicity, water. Not to forget that there are few supermarkets but just little stalls to buy your groceries.
If you consider it as a retirement place. Go there and stay for 6 months and find out the vibe. Boredom can pop up easy. And as a resident, the one girl which is with you is overly jealous! No way to fuck around. Malgache are fierce in defending their corral.
Seems taxi be at tamatave is reopening again from tomorrow. As they state on their facebook page.
Seems taxi be at tamatave is reopening again from tomorrow. As they state on their facebook page.Sh. T too late. Last year it was a much better place. The girls are closer to town. To go to Pandora involves police hassle and every time transport cost. I pulled loads of chicas last year.
My favourite Taxi Be on the island.
Neddy.
Who wishes to beamed back to Tamatave right now.
Sh. T too late. Last year it was a much better place. The girls are closer to town. To go to Pandora involves police hassle and every time transport cost. I pulled loads of chicas last year.
My favourite Taxi Be on the island.
Neddy.
Who wishes to beamed back to Tamatave right now.I agree with you its best taxi be on island I always find at least one girl I liked here for a night. Its good they reopened again. I been pandora few times but not enjoy to much was to crowded inside. Can't wait to comeback to tamatave with hundreds contacts of sweet malagashy girls from facebook.
SouthEaster
11-06-19, 17:59
I am not surprised. It is a big establishment and cost a fair few ariary to just sit there empty. As with many third world countries it is most likely just a matter of some palm greasing and a customary wait for face saving and back in business. Seen it happen dozens of times in places like Cambodia and Vietnam. Glad to hear it. Great place to go after a meal at La Terrasse or Lafiche.
SE.
AttilaTheHun
11-06-19, 23:15
Mate. What you want to do in Mada with that kind of money. Its way too much. LOL. Here it's the minimum pensioners paradise. I know of people who get by on 200 dollars a month. 400 dollars you have a decent lifestyle. 600 dollars you can splurge. With a 1000 dollars you are Demi God. I'd say with a 1000 dollars you do ok anywhere in Mada. With 2000 dollars?? What would somebody do with so much money in Mada. Money is not the problem. You have to let Mada grow on you. The big challenge is WHERE to retire. You should have a squeaky clean bill of health as there is places where there is no doctor. Especially the traffic infrastructure is BAD. The next problem is housing. You can have an own reed hut erected for 70 dollars. A 1000 dollars builds you a big wooden bungalow. 10.000 dollars you get a huge piece of land and a big brick house on it. Except Nosy Be. There you have crazy real estate prices. Then start to learn french. Go and visit it frequently. And fall in love.
La Buse
But Mada keeps you young. Here is a french guy. I found out he's 85!! years. Looking at him I'd have figured he's 65... go figure.Thanks for your reply. I like your choice of words such as splurge and Demi God that comes with living on a $1000 a month budget. So funny! It just takes time for me to comprehend the fact that there are countries out there that are extremely inexpensive. You know of people who get by on 200 dollars a month? That would be $600 a month in the Philippines as a bare minimum. I often visit the Philippines and I was thinking that the Philippines was affordable and also places in South America such as Columbia and Peru but when I read about prices in Madagascar I just shake my head in disbelief. It seems that Madagascar is 1/3 or 1/4th of what the Philippines would cost including paying for sex. The most popular places for retires are Costa Rica, Panama, Equator and in Asia the Philippines, Thailand and now Vietnam. But Madagascar? It just not on the map for most of us here in the USA. To be fair Africa is not on the map for most Yankees. It's an exciting discovery to learn about these places but the problem is I don't speak French only English and Hungarian. You insist that I would have to learn either French or the local language, right? English is just not enough there?
AttilaTheHun
11-06-19, 23:22
You speak French fluent? Yes, true, its a low-cost country but with all those negative points like health care (which is a valid point at age) , infrastructure. Not only transport but also internet, banking, electicity, water. Not to forget that there are few supermarkets but just little stalls to buy your groceries.
If you consider it as a retirement place. Go there and stay for 6 months and find out the vibe. Boredom can pop up easy. And as a resident, the one girl which is with you is overly jealous! No way to fuck around. Malgache are fierce in defending their corral.Thanks for the advice. Madagascar sounds like the Philippines. Which I'm familiar with. Minus English speaking.
I am trying to decide whether to make my first trip to Mada next year. I have mongered extensively but mostly in Asia, Latin America and Europe. Looking to try something new. I would have only around 1 week available so was thinking perhaps to spend around 5 or 6 days in Nosy Be and a night on each end for connecting flights in Tana. I know the time is short, but it's all I have to work with.
I have seen on a lot of reports people mentioning that Badoo is a good way to get an idea of what's available. I can't though see on that site how to get it to show me only available girls in Nosy Be. Is this possible? Or need to wait until you get on the ground and then let the app have your location? Mostly all the girls show as in the big cities.
Also with one week only. Is it worth going to Nosy Be? Or am I better to spend all this time in Tana? I see many mixed reports. Because my trip is so short I have no budget issues so pricing of girls / accommodations etc in either place is not a factor. Just looking for the cutest girls and the best trip. I should add I speak no French beyond being able to read the odd menu etc, so that will be a factor I know.
Thanks.
Albert9989
11-07-19, 04:25
Thanks for the advice. Madagascar sounds like the Philippines. Which I'm familiar with. Minus English speaking.Not really, there are very big differences as explained by Neddy. Security, infrastructure, healthcare, etc.
Phil looks like a paradise on some points.
For the 'discerning'? For the dead at ss broke! And at 70+, it's the last stop, the endgame: he's dying there. Read between the lines here: there's nothing to do. The appeal is only for foreigners who've managed to reach mid-age with no money. I've been to Morondova twice, and couldn't last a week there either time. There is a worse place in Mada: Fort Dauphin. So let's hear all about that next how little it costs. Bottom line: see as many places as possible, while never losing perspective.You'd be surprised. I met two eighty plus mongers. You have to hand it to these guys. One told me. Where else can I have a sweet 19 years old night nurse for cuddling. Beats an old people's home any time. For me. As long as I can crawl I'll roam Africa. My grave will be there.
Nothing to do? Depends. You can get yourself a outrigger canoe under sail start fishing. Buy yourself a boutre and live the life of Henri de Monfreid and mingle with the sakalave pirates and smugglers. Get a Motobike and roam the country side. And you'd be surprised. I know a couple of millionaires too. So not all people are dead ass broke. But if I'm on a state minimum pension I'd spend my twilight years here instead in an old people's home where I'll be nursed to death. I met french guys 70+ they took a young malgache lass and fathering kids. They live the good life biking around on quads.
La Buse.
Member #4673
11-07-19, 08:40
I've been to Morondova twice, and couldn't last a week there either time. .After 5 days you will take the first Taxi bruss out of this shit hole. Yes the beach area look cute but this is super boring place with no shade to hide from the sun. Mada is a terrible place to retire unless you wait to your die but casual trips in and out seems as a good option.
Thing is most places in Mada are gone and very little places left to encourage you to come back. 15 years ago any place you went was pure paradise.
AttilaTheHun
11-07-19, 16:09
You'd be surprised. I met two eighty plus mongers. You have to hand it to these guys. One told me. Where else can I have a sweet 19 years old night nurse for cuddling. Beats an old people's home any time. For me. As long as I can crawl I'll roam Africa. My grave will be there.
Nothing to do? Depends. You can get yourself a outrigger canoe under sail start fishing. Buy yourself a boutre and live the life of Henri de Monfreid and mingle with the sakalave pirates and smugglers. Get a Motobike and roam the country side. And you'd be surprised. I know a couple of millionaires too. So not all people are dead ass broke. But if I'm on a state minimum pension I'd spend my twilight years here instead in an old people's home where I'll be nursed to death. I met french guys 70+ they took a young malgache lass and fathering kids. They live the good life biking around on quads.
La Buse.I like your perspective in life for the older men in Africa. You have some optimism and adventurous spirit. I never heard of Henri de Monfreid and I'm glad you mentioned him. He was an adventurer. I can relate to him. "he feared to be obliged to accept the slavery of some dreary job and become a domestic animal. The only adventurer a Hungarian or rather East European learn about in schools with ties to Madagascar is Maurice Benyovszky. He was a Polish-Hungarian who created the first trade / colonial post in Madagascar on behalf of France. He died in Madagascar at the hand of the French military after he returned to the island but this time working for the Austrian-Hungarian empire. There is a popular TV series about his life including his Madagascar Adventures seen by millions in Eastern Europe. There is a street named after him in Antananarivo. He also mongered extensively in Madagascar so he is also an inspiration.
I am trying to decide whether to make my first trip to Mada next year. I have mongered extensively but mostly in Asia, Latin America and Europe. Looking to try something new. I would have only around 1 week available so was thinking perhaps to spend around 5 or 6 days in Nosy Be and a night on each end for connecting flights in Tana. I know the time is short, but it's all I have to work with.
I have seen on a lot of reports people mentioning that Badoo is a good way to get an idea of what's available. I can't though see on that site how to get it to show me only available girls in Nosy Be. Is this possible? Or need to wait until you get on the ground and then let the app have your location? Mostly all the girls show as in the big cities.
Also with one week only. Is it worth going to Nosy Be? Or am I better to spend all this time in Tana? I see many mixed reports. Because my trip is so short I have no budget issues so pricing of girls / accommodations etc in either place is not a factor. Just looking for the cutest girls and the best trip. I should add I speak no French beyond being able to read the odd menu etc, so that will be a factor I know.
Thanks.Hi DonKey,
If you download a location changer app onto your phone (I have one called Fake GPS) you can set your location as anywhere on the globe. Once it is running, if you open badoo and and tantan you can chat to girls in the fake location. For some reason it doesn't work with tinder (I guess they have better location detector, to persuade you to buy the paid version of tinder to change your location). Also the website tagged.com lets you change location to anywhere you want.
Good luck and happy mongering.
The big challenge is WHERE to retire. You should have a squeaky clean bill of health as there is places where there is no doctor...About health. I'm not the over-insured anxious type but I know I'm not covered by my health insurance in Madagascar. In The Gambia I nearly got run over by a taxi driver who'the completely lost controle of his vehicle. Do any of you guys take a separate health / repatriation insurance?
Anyway, I booked a 2 week return flight Tana-Nosy towards the end of my holiday for 215 € with a 3 day cushion in Tana just in case the flight gets cancelled. That means I have about 3 weeks left.
There is a cheap flight for 80 € from Tulear to Tana a couple of days before my flight leaves to Nosy. I was thinking about following the RN7 from Tana on a slow pace southwards making stopovers in Antsirabe and Fianara. There take the train to Manakara. If it runs, haha. Then stay a couple of nights in Manakara, return by train to Fianar and then go to Tulear. Now If I do that I'll have to cancel Tamatave. I don't like being in a rush. So it's going to be one or the other, Tamatave or Tulear.
I read a strange remark on tripadvisor. Someone claimed the best exchange in Madagascar is at the airport at a company called socimad. That does surprise me. I've never heard of an airport exchange giving a good rate let alone being the best in the country.
I read a strange remark on tripadvisor. Someone claimed the best exchange in Madagascar is at the airport at a company called socimad. That does surprise me. I've never heard of an airport exchange giving a good rate let alone being the best in the country.Not strange: it's a fact. Anyone who has done extensive travel will have seen this type of situation elsewhere as well.
I like your perspective in life for the older men in Africa. You have some optimism and adventurous spirit. I never heard of Henri de Monfreid and I'm glad you mentioned him. He was an adventurer. I can relate to him. "he feared to be obliged to accept the slavery of some dreary job and become a domestic animal. The only adventurer a Hungarian or rather East European learn about in schools with ties to Madagascar is Maurice Benyovszky. He was a Polish-Hungarian who created the first trade / colonial post in Madagascar on behalf of France. He died in Madagascar at the hand of the French military after he returned to the island but this time working for the Austrian-Hungarian empire. There is a popular TV series about his life including his Madagascar Adventures seen by millions in Eastern Europe. There is a street named after him in Antananarivo. He also mongered extensively in Madagascar so he is also an inspiration.Yes I know Benyovsky. I am half Hungarian descent myself. You get the idea. Here you have to be adventurous. Believe me. You suffer for that pussy too.
La Buse.
Google Ida Pfeiffer and Jean Laborde.
I've figured it out. None of the girls looks at you. Hmmm. How to approach them. After nightfall there is girls strolling around a bord de mer. I was sitting with a senior monger and his GF at a boite. There I saw a tall chica moving in the dark. I want her. The malgache GF of my friend ran after her to scramble her for me.
After 30 seconds she sat at our table. She is drop dead gorgeous. Dark features of a cotiere Sakalave girl but slightly slant eyes of an Asian. A perfect tall 9. 8 model from Belo sur Tsibirinha with braids down to the ass. Buy her high heels and a cocktail dress and she can hold her own on any model contest.
She speaks absolutely 0 french only malgache. But I had a translator. The conversation was rather short. How old 19. Fait l amour. Oui. Ok. Lets go. My crib was just across the road. We shagged. But I sweat like a pig. The fan is running at full speed. Its stifling hot. I shag her doggy. And mish. These are the 2 positions she knows. And no BJ. Fady.
Well a village girl. But no regrets. A starfish. Yes. But an absolute stunner. I wanted a second round in the morning. Non. Oh man. But just to look at the body makes all the sweat, diarrhea and taxi brousse rides worth it. I donated 35 k AR for lack of performance and enthusiasm though.
And yes. To all. I stay another week.
La Buse.
About health. I'm not the over-insured anxious type but I know I'm not covered by my health insurance in Madagascar. In The Gambia I nearly got run over by a taxi driver who'the completely lost controle of his vehicle. Do any of you guys take a separate health / repatriation insurance?
Anyway, I booked a 2 week return flight Tana-Nosy towards the end of my holiday for 215 with a 3 day cushion in Tana just in case the flight gets cancelled. That means I have about 3 weeks left.
There is a cheap flight for 80 from Tulear to Tana a couple of days before my flight leaves to Nosy. I was thinking about following the RN7 from Tana on a slow pace southwards making stopovers in Antsirabe and Fianara. There take the train to Manakara. If it runs, haha. Then stay a couple of nights in Manakara, return by train to Fianar and then go to Tulear. Now If I do that I'll have to cancel Tamatave. I don't like being in a rush. So it's going to be one or the other, Tamatave or Tulear.
I read a strange remark on tripadvisor. Someone claimed the best exchange in Madagascar is at the airport at a company called socimad. That does surprise me. I've never heard of an airport exchange giving a good rate let alone being the best in the country.Get a good death and disability insurance. Thats what I have. Road Accidents will be your biggest risk. I have a good travel insurance package comes with my Visa card to cover hospital and emergency evacuation. See your dentist before you go.
IMHO go to Nosy Be. Tulear stifling hot now.
Change at the airport. Yes. Bad Rates. But bring cash Euros. If the ATMs on the airport are out of cash frequently you need ariary to pay for taxi to town.
La Buse.
I am trying to decide whether to make my first trip to Mada next year. I have mongered extensively but mostly in Asia, Latin America and Europe. Looking to try something new. I would have only around 1 week available so was thinking perhaps to spend around 5 or 6 days in Nosy Be and a night on each end for connecting flights in Tana. I know the time is short, but it's all I have to work with.
I have seen on a lot of reports people mentioning that Badoo is a good way to get an idea of what's available. I can't though see on that site how to get it to show me only available girls in Nosy Be. Is this possible? Or need to wait until you get on the ground and then let the app have your location? Mostly all the girls show as in the big cities.
Also with one week only. Is it worth going to Nosy Be? Or am I better to spend all this time in Tana? I see many mixed reports. Because my trip is so short I have no budget issues so pricing of girls / accommodations etc in either place is not a factor. Just looking for the cutest girls and the best trip. I should add I speak no French beyond being able to read the odd menu etc, so that will be a factor I know.
Thanks.Only 2 choices. Either fly direct with Ethiopian to Nosy Be. Spend a week there. Or a week in Tana. For a week the choice is crystal clear. Nosy Be. Forget connecting flights. They might be cancelled. And a week is IMHO almost not feasible.
La Buse.
Member #4673
11-08-19, 06:00
Not sure why they not take aircon room in Eden rock.
Very cheap https://goo.gl/maps/kfefAAwmvts6kJoZ6.
Not sure why they not take aircon room in Eden rock.
Very cheap https://goo.gl/maps/kfefAAwmvts6kJoZ6.Not any more cheap. 60 k ventilee. I have an Aircon in my room in Zoom. It would cost 45 k. But I never use A/C. For me fan is enough. For 30k. I am vazaha lany mofo. It takes at least 3 weeks for your body to adjust to tropical heat. When I arrived here I sweated like a pig. After a week it's much better already. I have a ceiling fan running at full speed. I lie naked and my malgache princess was freezing wrapped in a blanket. LOL.
La Buse.
PS. Near the ocean wooden bungalows are also cool in the night. Like Cheval de mer. But also 60k. For a month 50k. Too much. I paid 400k a MONTH in 2015 in Mangily.
AttilaTheHun
11-08-19, 20:21
Yes I know Benyovsky. I am half Hungarian descent myself. You get the idea. Here you have to be adventurous. Believe me. You suffer for that pussy too.
La Buse.
Google Ida Pfeiffer and Jean Laborde.Thanks for recommending to lookup Ida Pfeiffer and Jean Laborde. You are some fine educated monger not bad for a (half) Hungarian. Have you seen a monger fishing or just sailing around the Island in an outrigger canoe or in a boutre?
That would be earn my respect.
Only 2 choices. Either fly direct with Ethiopian to Nosy Be. Spend a week there. Or a week in Tana. For a week the choice is crystal clear. Nosy Be. Forget connecting flights. They might be cancelled. And a week is IMHO almost not feasible.
La Buse.Thanks, I was also leaning towards Nosy Be. Unfortunately I'll still need to enter via Tana though, because actually my trip is 2 weeks total but I need to spend a week up near Antsiranana for some other (non-mongering) activities and I think the only way to link from Antsiranana to Nosy Be is in / out of Tana.
Thanks also Chris for the GPS recommendation!
P.S. Are there any other forums that you are aware of that cover Mada? I've gone back through about 60 pages on here but the more information the merrier.
Thanks for recommending to lookup Ida Pfeiffer and Jean Laborde. You are some fine educated monger not bad for a (half) Hungarian. Have you seen a monger fishing or just sailing around the Island in an outrigger canoe or in a boutre?
That would be earn my respect.Listen man. I am not a Sextourist. LOL. I am a travelling monger and adventurer. I love africa. I research a country for years. My hobby is Adventurers Pirates Soldiers of Fortune. You'd be surprised. I immerse myself complete in the culture of the country. And in the chicas hehehe.
There is a vazaha. He owns three boutres and runs trips down the coast.
La Buse
https://www.pirogue-madagascar.com/philosophie/
AttilaTheHun
11-09-19, 17:03
Listen man. I am not a Sextourist. LOL. I am a travelling monger and adventurer. I love africa. I research a country for years. My hobby is Adventurers Pirates Soldiers of Fortune. You'd be surprised. I immerse myself complete in the culture of the country. And in the chicas hehehe.
There is a vazaha. He owns three boutres and runs trips down the coast.
La Buse
https://www.pirogue-madagascar.com/philosophie/That's how I would like to call myself also "a traveling monger and adventurer". Study the history the culture (including the local ladies) in depth with a passion and add pirates, smugglers etc to the matrix and it will look just like in my adolescent dreams. In another country's forum you mentioned that your budget is around $1000 per month and additional $2000 for travel expenses. That would be $3000 per month? Would you care itemizing roughly how you do it? Does the $2000 also includes the hunting expeditions for La Buse (Olivier Levasseurs) treasures?
Quit a long journey to Tulear, more than 30 hours from Europe. I had a 6 hour layover in Reunion, so I asked a taxi driver to show me around the island as a past time. The Air Madagascar flight had also a layover in Fort Dauphin for about 1 hour.
Finally in Tulear airport, another small Mada one-plane-a-day-airport, a lot of red tape before allowed into the country. Don't forget a pencil.
At the exit almost teared apart by the taxi drivers who literally start fighting over me to bring me to town. Definitely a buyers market.
First impression: very busy town with massive amounts of people on the streets. Tried first to check in at LE Recif Hotel, but fully booked. Than Serena hotel but also full. So I asked the driver to bring me to Amazone Hotel. They still had vacancies. Big and clean rooms but very noisy at night I was about to find out later on.
I started first to check out the beach road in front of the hotel. It was a deception. Very few SW and all ugly dogs. Around Pizza joint very quiet but all new and nice. LE Boeuf also deserted and TamTam club also very few people, even later on and during the whole weekend. Next doors there was a bar called Les Dromedaires. I think recently opened or renovated and very nice to sit at the bar. Only place on the road with some customers. There I met the first nice girls. Two girls from TulAR and one from a Bush town. We had some drinks and they showed me around town. The place to be for nightlife is LE Roby5 disco just around the corner from Amazone Hotel. Very busy in front of the entrance. People queuing to go inside. The entrance is very narrow with a steep staircase. The disco looks small at the outside but it is very deep and has two levels. Packed with people inside and especially very beautiful girls. I am quit picky but a saw many many 8 and 9's. Far better looking girls than I saw any place in Mada! Even better dan Manson in Tana. Very few white guys and most of the gils looking for a vazah as the highest price. I felt all the looks at me while I was passing by. At the dance floor all the girls tried to make eye contact and start dirty dancing with me. No problem at all to select 3 lookers for a threesome later on the night.
All 3 of them were good performers and one of them was into blow jobs but fady for the 2 other girls. They were funny to and into everything to please me. No fuss about condoms and very liking some DATY.
They stayed till noon for 30 k each and some drinks at the disco. No bad deal.
As a food option I strongly advice LE Jardin. Wonderful Italian restaurant with delicious food options and a very friendly owner.
SouthEaster
11-09-19, 17:26
Donkey,
You must have missed the posts about Tsaradia. You can fly from Diego to Nosy Be. Unfortunately they only go twice a week or so it appears. It sounds like money is no object so have a look. Hell you could book a 4 x 4 private for a hundred euro and go overland. Not very nice due to the roads but it would take no longer and probably be less hassle. And don't count out Diego if you are nearby. Most guys that post on here do not like it, but I am an exception. Unless you are very fussy and in a hurry there is no way you will not find pussy in Diego. Unless you are like the expert in his endless quest for free pussy. It is definitely more of a pro town but you will definitely get laid.
SE.
https://youtu.be/ZKpiQ3QqB30
I made a small video from inside LE Roby5 disco.
Very hot atmosphere as one can see.
A few hours later I ended up with those two girls in my room for some more fun.
Super, how long do you stay in toliara?
https://youtu.be/ZKpiQ3QqB30
I made a small video from inside LE Roby5 disco.
Very hot atmosphere as one can see.
A few hours later I ended up with those two girls in my room for some more fun.Nice video!! Just good memories for me from this place!! Best disco to be at all town!! Plenty of sweet cuties inside!! Enjoy your trip mate!
That's how I would like to call myself also "a traveling monger and adventurer". Study the history the culture (including the local ladies) in depth with a passion and add pirates, smugglers etc to the matrix and it will look just like in my adolescent dreams. In another country's forum you mentioned that your budget is around $1000 per month and additional $2000 for travel expenses. That would be $3000 per month? Would you care itemizing roughly how you do it? Does the $2000 also includes the hunting expeditions for La Buse (Olivier Levasseurs) treasures?No. 1000 usd a month. 2000 usd added for all flights a year. Roughly. I am usually travelling 8 months a year. So total of 10 k usd.
La Buse.
AttilaTheHun
11-10-19, 11:37
No. 1000 usd a month. 2000 usd added for all flights a year. Roughly. I am usually travelling 8 months a year. So total of 10 k usd.
La Buse.That's impressive. It shows that it is really possible to have a monger lifestyle on such a little money. It's not that it changes anything for me but if I do the math right then your expenses a year is $15,000 and not $10,000.
$1000 x 12+$2000=$15,000 It's just crazy inexpensive in Africa compare to what you get in the Philippines / Thailand. In my humble opinion $1000 a month in the Philippines is not enough for quality mongering.
As you mentioned before the average price for girls in Sub-Saharan Africa should be in the range of $10-$20 In the Philippines it starts from $40. Thailand is even more.
on a $1000 a month budget. It just takes time for me to comprehend the fact that there are countries out there that are extremely inexpensive. You know of people who get by on 200 dollars a month? e?On this budget, take time to comprehend the fact of staying in a dingy fleabag, leaving only to venture forth a couple times a day to forage for street food, then awaiting for nightfall to sortie a poor girl who finds your accommodations preferable to the ever-present risk of rape back at her shack. Unless you are dead broke or else thrive on wandering around like a stray dog with nothing to do, Mada is not in any way a retirement destination. Go for two weeks, then if you're not bored out of your mind, go back for longer and see more on a subsequent visit.
I will be arriving for the first time in Madagascar towards the second half of this month. I'm planning to stay a couple of days in Tana to get a feel of the city and then move on. My main issue right now is planning what direction I want to go. It's a big country and unless you have an unlimited budget to take domestic flights as you please, logistically it is a nightmare. Very often the only logical way to continue travelling is doing just the opposite, to go back as there are no alternatives to carry on.
I have 6 weeks in total and I want to combine hobbying with tourist activities. Originally my plan was to go to Nosy Be but I don't fancy going all the way to Nosy and then return to Tana to continue further on. So I think I'll be heading to Tamatave. I love travelling by train. From Moramanga there is a line going to Ambatondrazaka and another one going to Tamatave. I read that since a couple of months the train is out of use for an undetermined period of time. Does anyone have any updated information about that? From Tamatave I want to continue following the coast southward all the way up to Manakara and there take the train to Fianantsaroa. I will be taking a girl with me as I believe the mongering scene between Tamatave and Manakara will be limited.
The tricky part between Tamatave and Manakara is the stretch between Mahanoro and Nosy Varika. If you look on the map you will see there is a road the 'route nationale 11'. The problem is that I haven't been able to find one person who actually has driven it, no car, no 4 x 4, no taxi brousse not even a lorry. It seems that everyone takes cargo 'boats' over the Pangalanes canal and it takes 2-4 days. No bed, no sex maybe not even a seat or a toilet for all I know.The only train worth taking is the scenic Fianarantsoa. Manakara. Don't ever go to ambatondrazaka, it is a real shithole.
From Tamatave to Mahanoro, you can travel by taxi-brousse or rent a car. Mahanoro, there is a nice beach and bungalows by the beach: Coco Bungalows.
From there, there is indeed a harbor and boats can take you to Mananjary in 2 to 3 days. Relaxing but rough: Bring your own water on the boat (6-pack of Eau vive), be careful of food and mosquito bites.
Then, from Manajary (a city with no interest) to Manakary (no interest either), you will have a one-day traxi-brousse. Then one-day train to Fianarantsoa (some amazing girls but hard to find).
It's a good idea to bring a girl with you. She will arrange transportation, accommodation, and translation. In Pandora or Taxi Be (if re-opened), look from a girl from Mahanoro or Vatomandry.
Vatomandry has a reputation of malagasy-chinese metis girls. Mahanoro of malagasy-arabic metis girls.
Also the rainy season is coming soon. I would recommend you wait till April to do this trip.
SouthEaster
11-11-19, 22:02
I spend approximately 1200 US per month in Mada. This gives me a decent hotel with wifi and aircon, 2 good meals a day, all my booze which is typically several beer and a glass or 2 of wine and a ST daily. I don't stay in dingy fleabags and I venture forth whenever I like. The reality is somewhere between Golfinho's naysayer attitude and someone like the expert who wants to do exactly the fleabag route. It doesn't have to be feast or famine. As for 200 a month? That is more like surviving, not living.
SE.
I spend approximately 1200 US per month in Mada. This gives me a decent hotel with wifi and aircon, 2 good meals a day, all my booze which is typically several beer and a glass or 2 of wine and a ST daily. I don't stay in dingy fleabags and I venture forth whenever I like. The reality is somewhere between Golfinho's naysayer attitude and someone like the expert who wants to do exactly the fleabag route. It doesn't have to be feast or famine. As for 200 a month? That is more like surviving, not living.
SE.Like myself. 1000 usd is plenty plenty. But I am travelling. If you stay put in Mada you get easy by with 400 to 600 usd a month. Here in Morondave you can rent furnished 2 BR Apartments for 150 usd a month. In a month I hv 4 19 year old GFs taking care of me. All the booze I can drink and fresh crabs lobster or whatever I care to fancy. I can eat Cebu steak everyday if I cook myself. All fresh produce is available. Even fresh strawberries ferried in from Antsirabe. I Know expats here they live on 400 usd a month very comfortable.
I stay in cheap lodgings but never seen a flea or rat or caught scabies. There is good cheap lodgings all over Africa for 7 to 15 usd a day. I shop around till I find a place. Obviously I give overpriced tourist haunts a wide birth. The most I ever paid was 3000 ksh a night in Nairobi the least 100 usd thats 3.30 usd a day a month in Mangily. Clean bungalow without running water and off grid.
When I talk about 200 usd a month. The guy I know lives in Mangily. He is not traveling but retired in his 70's. He spent most of his best years in jail for political reasons in the former eastern bloc and receives a minimum pension of 200 usd. Perfectly doable. He rents a small hut for 40 $. The rest is for food and beer. His girlfriend cooks the usual gasy fare Rice. The fisherman sell him the catch of the day. And he owns a Motobike. Considering the minimum wage was raised to 200 k AR by the president he is a rich man getting 800 k a month. While he lives basic consider he's living in paradise looking at the sunset over the Mozambique channel every day. And he's not to worried about things like healthcare. Actually visit to government doctor is free. I did it myself. Only pay a few bucks for medication.
La Buse.
Look at the video. Thats a typical village in the highlands. Dadi love besings the beauty of the malagasy woman. And beautiful they are....
https://youtu.be/6iPNcFQlVfA
Member #4673
11-12-19, 05:43
Like myself. 1000 usd is plenty plenty.
La Buse.According to you.
You eat for 50 k for one meal in Tamatave.
Girls you give 50 k.
Beers 10 k?
Hotel 45 k.
Transport?
You easily cross 1300 usd and more.
If all you have is 2000 a month, you find a way to live on it. If all you have is 1000 month, you survive on it and maybe convince yourself that you're some kind of adventurer thing so it doesn't seem so bad. Thinking adjusts itself to the situation at hand. As long as you can put yourself in a situation where there are people poorer than you, you can use whatever economic leverage you have to your advantage. Otherwise, what are you supposed to do: get by on your good looks and charisma? LOL.
SouthEaster
11-12-19, 17:52
"If all you have is 2000 a month, you find a way to live on it. " Where? The US? It seems your idea of survival and most posters on this forum are completely different. At my budget, which according to you is little more than enough to survive on, I want for very little and have almost no restrictions other than not being able to afford to fly all over the country at whim. For 2 K I would be living the life of Riley. What, exactly, do you need that will cost more than 2 grand a month? In Mada of all places?
SE.
According to you.
You eat for 50 k for one meal in Tamatave.
Girls you give 50 k.
Beers 10 k?
Hotel 45 k.
Transport?
You easily cross 1300 usd and more.Absolutely useless discussion. Sometime I spend 35 k for restaurant. Then I go to gargotte for 5 k. THB GM you can spend 5 k in Disco. On the beach in local joint 3. 5 k. Girls I paid from 10 k in Mangily for ST Massage to 70 k one time in Tana. Lodging from 15 k to 75 k. Transport from Tsaradia 440 k to Cotisse 45 k. So what's the point? I use 1000 usd a month. I can count. How much you use or anybody else I don't care.
La Buse.
If all you have is 2000 a month, you find a way to live on it. If all you have is 1000 month, you survive on it and maybe convince yourself that you're some kind of adventurer thing so it doesn't seem so bad. Thinking adjusts itself to the situation at hand. As long as you can put yourself in a situation where there are people poorer than you, you can use whatever economic leverage you have to your advantage. Otherwise, what are you supposed to do: get by on your good looks and charisma? LOL.As long as you wave crisp newly printed 20.000 ariary notes. What you expect. You can be 89 years and drive around in a wheel chair and get laid by sweet 19 years old chicas. 1000 usd are close to 4 million ariary. So compared to 95% you're filthy rich. Remember the roaring 20's. Where Americans where partying in Paris with absolutely worthless French francs. So. Nothing new. Its called leverage. And that's why you'll never see me in countries like Thailand where the USD or EUR is depreciating.
La Buse.
Let the party begin:
https://youtu.be/UcPpR4uTpME
As long as you wave crisp newly printed 20.000 ariary notes. What you expect. You can be 89 years s. 1000 usd are close to 4 million And that's why you'll never see me in countries like Thailand where the USD or EUR is depreciating.When your means are limited, you're limited to poor places. You've found your level. So, enjoy yourself and make the best of your situation!
AttilaTheHun
11-13-19, 04:25
Like myself. 1000 usd is plenty plenty. But I am travelling. If you stay put in Mada you get easy by with 400 to 600 usd a month. Here in Morondave you can rent furnished 2 BR Apartments for 150 usd a month. In a month I hv 4 19 year old GFs taking care of me. All the booze I can drink and fresh crabs lobster or whatever I care to fancy. I can eat Cebu steak everyday if I cook myself. All fresh produce is available. Even fresh strawberries ferried in from Antsirabe. I Know expats here they live on 400 usd a month very comfortable.
I stay in cheap lodgings but never seen a flea or rat or caught scabies. There is good cheap lodgings all over Africa for 7 to 15 usd a day. I shop around till I find a place. Obviously I give overpriced tourist haunts a wide birth. The most I ever paid was 3000 ksh a night in Nairobi the least 100 usd thats 3.30 usd a day a month in Mangily. Clean bungalow without running water and off grid.
When I talk about 200 usd a month. The guy I know lives in Mangily. He is not traveling but retired in his 70's. He spent most of his best years in jail for political reasons in the former eastern bloc and receives a minimum pension of 200 usd. Perfectly doable. He rents a small hut for 40 $. The rest is for food and beer. His girlfriend cooks the usual gasy fare Rice. The fisherman sell him the catch of the day. And he owns a Motobike. Considering the minimum wage was raised to 200 k AR by the president he is a rich man getting 800 k a month. While he lives basic consider he's living in paradise looking at the sunset over the Mozambique channel every day.Nice informative explanation Captain Buse. Since myself was born and raised in a "behind the iron curtain" Eastern block country I would like to know the nationality of that old man who lives on $200 per month. He is my soulmate. I don't know now but not long ago many pensioner received that much in Hungary. If an Eastern European goes to Madagascar I'm sure they can live on a small budget by "training" And if he was one of those unlucky political prisoners in a communist country he can get by on less. You mentioned that you have access to government doctor for free?
Member #4673
11-13-19, 04:51
"If all you have is 2000 a month, you find a way to live on it. " Where?
SE.He did not refer to Mada. This overall cost including your base country plus international flights to Mada and Mada itself as an average.
So you based in Cambodia and left but not permanently to Mada. You have another country you use as a base. Then you travel.
So overall 2 kusd per month as a year average sounds reasonable, For example a certain Asian country plus Mada travel and flights.
As long as you wave crisp newly printed 20.000 ariary notes. What yo. And that's why you'll never see me in countries like Thailand where the USD or EUR is depreciating.EGlad to have introduced you to the concept of leverage. We'll never see you in countries like thailand because you can't afford them. To have gotten into your financial situation, be thankful for the places where there are people poorer than you who you can exploit. Mada for a couple weeks, but I'd sure not want to be stuck there.
SouthEaster
11-13-19, 17:47
You are correct Neddy. He didn't mention Mada specifically. It was implied. And closer to the truth if you fly a lot and include airfares in your monthly costs. As you mentioned I have abandoned Cambodia and in the last 2 years have probably made 50 flights in and around half a dozen countries. I don't even want to tally up what all that cost!
As for the Golfer, " To have gotten into your financial situation, be thankful for the places where there are people poorer than you who you can exploit. " WOW. That takes some balls on a pay for pussy forum. Let me get this straight. It is not exploitation to fuck girls in poor countries like Thailand because you are paying a lot more? What kind of fucking logic is that?
You seem to take delight in deriding mongers who clearly don't have your resources (money) and also implying that the are destitute trash who wouldn't be welcome even in the lowest standard Thai bar propping up a stool all day. You also have no idea what Neddy does, how he makes his money or how much he has got. He could be a millionaire for all you know.
I don't know why you single out people of little means or just plain cheap charlies (like me!) who want to get laid just as much as wealthy people. Make you feel good from your lofty turret? I will admit some seem to take it to extremes and the poor as dirt life style doesn't suit everyone (again, like me) but who are you to rain on some poor frogs parade if he lives out his life in just such a way?
I will admit some seem to take it to extremes and the poor as dirt life style doesn't suit everyone (again, like me) way?Just keeping it real Seaster. Reality is there is nothing to do in these places in Mada: between mealtimes and bedding times there is nothing but nothing to do time. As for girls, women are everywhere: there's not a place they can't be found except in prisons and monastic institutions. The only possible attraction is cost factor for no-money guys: and the poor people they can (wow!) take advantage off. But, since it is a pure symbiosis, no need for your fake moral outrage. I'll be looking forward to my next two-week visit in December; it's a convenient stopover between south America and asia in certain seasons.
Member #4673
11-14-19, 02:55
I'll be looking forward to my next two-week visit in December; Why you go then for a non money guy destination?
In Colombia you stay at Hilton then fuck street girls for 5 usd.
Nice informative explanation Captain Buse. Since myself was born and raised in a "behind the iron curtain" Eastern block country I would like to know the nationality of that old man who lives on $200 per month. He is my soulmate. I don't know now but not long ago many pensioner received that much in Hungary. If an Eastern European goes to Madagascar I'm sure they can live on a small budget by "training" And if he was one of those unlucky political prisoners in a communist country he can get by on less. You mentioned that you have access to government doctor for free?He's from former Eastern Germany. GDR.
Government Doctor is free in Madagascar. Also for tourists. A legacy of the socialist regime of Ratsiraka.
La Buse.
You are correct Neddy. He didn't mention Mada specifically. It was implied. And closer to the truth if you fly a lot and include airfares in your monthly costs. As you mentioned I have abandoned Cambodia and in the last 2 years have probably made 50 flights in and around half a dozen countries. I don't even want to tally up what all that cost!
As for the Golfer, " To have gotten into your financial situation, be thankful for the places where there are people poorer than you who you can exploit. " WOW. That takes some balls on a pay for pussy forum. Let me get this straight. It is not exploitation to fuck girls in poor countries like Thailand because you are paying a lot more? What kind of fucking logic is that?
You seem to take delight in deriding mongers who clearly don't have your resources (money) and also implying that the are destitute trash who wouldn't be welcome even in the lowest standard Thai bar propping up a stool all day. You also have no idea what Neddy does, how he makes his money or how much he has got. He could be a millionaire for all you know.
I don't know why you single out people of little means or just plain cheap charlies (like me!) who want to get laid just as much as wealthy people. Make you feel good from your lofty turret? I will admit some seem to take it to extremes and the poor as dirt life style doesn't suit everyone (again, like me) but who are you to rain on some poor frogs parade if he lives out his life in just such a way?Thanks SE. But I think budget is a personal thing. Some of my friends are actually loaded. And they stay in budget lodgings too.
My flight budget is actually quite low. I aim to stay in country for 3 months. 3 international flights a year and maybe 2 or 3 regional or domestic flights. I fly from Europe. If you search carefully and I am time millionaire with sufficient funds and I use only return tickets I pay between 500 and 600 euros return. Why am I in Madagascar now. I paid 574.26 euros return with AF from Europe. If the flight would have been over my budget I would be in Kampala or Nairobi or Addis now. I only roam certain african countries. Not South America. Not SE Asia. why should I pay 50 to 100$ for pussy? NFW. I leave that to the loaded Japanese, Chinese and Westerners. I don't like the commercialized Sex Industry. In Africa its non-commercial. No barfine. No guard to be bribed to sneak in overpriced hookers like in Morocco. The girl gets 100%. And on top of that you get some of the finest GF Sex on the planet. The better and longer you stay in country the cheaper it gets. Stay away from the capitals in general smaller towns are cheaper.
Boredom is not a Problem for me. I am perfectly content to do every day the same routine. Shagging 19 year olds. Looking out on the indian ocean. Reading my Kindle. Mingle with locals great fun. Work out. Do yoga. I always prefer local joints wherever I go.
And what is the average pensioner doing at home. Exactly. Everyday the same s...t. Minus shagging of course. So. Master the fine Art of doing nothing. Start by reading Lawrence Durrell, Bitter Lemons. And read about the tree of idleness.
The beach in Morondava is first class. Squeaky clean on the tourist side. They have a female mayor here who really cleaned up town. I have lightning fast 4 G. Exploitation? I get a service and I pay. Direct aid to the girl and the family. The international mining companies they exploit Madagascar. Not me.
La Buse.
My 19 y/o perfect 9 slanted eye Sakalave eye candy just left with 40k ar to her credit.LOL
Member #4673
11-14-19, 07:43
. I aim to stay in country for 3 months..Thanks you for your sharing transparency and forget Gofino bitterness. His doing the exact same thing.
So they allow 3 month visa in Ivato airport now?
As far I understand you stay in Europe for one month to relax then 3 month in africa then repeat. So europe is your base to get organized.
SouthEaster
11-14-19, 17:26
That's funny. Do you have a side job as a travelling comedian? There is no outrage going on here mate. If anyone has a problem it would be you with your phony claims of exploitation by people who do not have your means but you are doing the exact same thing on a higher budget. All you are doing is showing yourself to be a first class twat with a superiority complex. Make sure you pay at least 100 K for your STs in Mada. You wouldn't want to "exploit" someone. Keeping it real my ass. What a joke.
SE.
Thanks you for your sharing transparency and forget Gofino bitterness. His doing the exact same thing.
So they allow 3 month visa in Ivato airport now?
As far I understand you stay in Europe for one month to relax then 3 month in africa then repeat. So europe is your base to get organized.Actually the only reason I fly back to Europe is because return works out so much cheaper than one way. More like 10 days. My base was my house in Gambia for 2 years. Out of convenience. But it got so bad that I am shifting probably back to East Africa.
No visa 2 months. But I extended it in Tamatave. Not a big problem. 80 k AR. And a mate did it here In Morondava.
La Buse.
I can't follow this thread. What's the cheapest you all have gotten by on in Madagascar and for how long?
AttilaTheHun
11-16-19, 03:18
Thanks SE. But I think budget is a personal thing. Some of my friends are actually loaded. And they stay in budget lodgings too.
My flight budget is actually quite low. I aim to stay in country for 3 months. 3 international flights a year and maybe 2 or 3 regional or domestic flights. I fly from Europe. If you search carefully and I am time millionaire with sufficient funds and I use only return tickets I pay between 500 and 600 euros return. Why am I in Madagascar now. I paid 574.26 euros return with AF from Europe. If the flight would have been over my budget I would be in Kampala or Nairobi or Addis now. I only roam certain african countries. Not South America. Not SE Asia. why should I pay 50 to 100$ for pussy? NFW. I leave that to the loaded Japanese, Chinese and Westerners. I don't like the commercialized Sex Industry. In Africa its non-commercial. No barfine. No guard to be bribed to sneak in overpriced hookers like in Morocco. The girl gets 100%. And on top of that you get some of the finest GF Sex on the planet. The better and longer you stay in country the cheaper it gets. Stay away from the capitals in general smaller towns are cheaper.
Boredom is not a Problem for me. I am perfectly content to do every day the same routine. Shagging 19 year olds. Looking out on the indian ocean. Reading my Kindle. Mingle with locals great fun. Work out. Do yoga. I always prefer local joints wherever I go.
And what is the average pensioner doing at home. Exactly. Everyday the same s...t. Minus shagging of course. So. Master the fine Art of doing nothing. Start by reading Lawrence Durrell, Bitter Lemons. And read about the tree of idleness.Lawrence Durrell, Bitter Lemons is another great recommendation. You just keep giving me great reading materials. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, insights and your inspirations. Thanks and keep them coming.
I can't follow this thread. What's the cheapest you all have gotten by on in Madagascar and for how long?We are having an ethical discussion. Which basically leads to nowhere as there is some entrenched opinion here. Some ***** about Mada how bad and boring it is and yet they return here year after year. And they are of the opinion that only dead broke people live in Mada. LOL. As for me. I cherish my lifestyle. And actually I am spending here the least money on pussy. Hey. Food is more expensive.
La Buse.
And yes I spend another week in this boring town. And yes the beach is squeaky clean. And yes I pay 40k for pussy. And yes I love Madagascar. As for all others. Stay in Thailand.
I stayed for the week-end in Tulear and on Monday I toke a taxi to Mangily. Lots of taxis available and I negotiated a brand new car for 40 k. Old cars were cheaper but less comfortable. But first the driver had to fill up the gas tank and all the petrol stations were dry.
We did all the gas stations in town and finally found one still in service. The road to Mangily was remarkable smooth. Brand new I guess and without any pothole. Very much unlike other roads in Mada. I tried first to check in in La Bella Donna. Unfortunately fully booked.
I understand why. La Bella Donna is a jewel. The most beautiful property in Mangily hand down. So I tried next doors in la princesse du lagon but it was also full. So I ended up in the Bamboo Club near the end of the beach.
There still was one hut available right on the beach. Very nice. Just perfect.
I went for the beach and found many nice girl who offered massage. And I felt very soon this was also a buyers market. Many tourist in all the hotels but all the men brought their own sand to the beach. 99 % couples. Just perfect.
All the girls proposed to come to my room for some massage and extras.
During day time very easy to find many girls on the beach. And during the evening and night the place to be is The Blu bar in the center of Mangily.
The walk on the beach and the road to Mangily is very dark but I never felt unsafe. The main road in Mangily is als packed with people during the evening and it is very easy to find girls there also.
The best eatery in Mangily is definitely Chez Freddy on the road from the beach to the center.
All the food is really delicious and I ended up eating there every day and never felt ill.
On my return to Tulear I toke a tuktuk but the police stopped it a few kilometers before we reached our destination. The law was changed and tuk tuks from Mangily were not allowed anymore in Tulear.
So I had to take a taxi brousse to the city center and then a taxi to the airport.
With all that fuss I almost missed my plane back.
Manfield04
11-16-19, 17:25
Very good report. Mangily is a very nice place to hang around for a few days. Lots of massage girls offering their services. It is also advisable to book hotel or bungalow if you want to stay by the beach as these are easily fully booked. But at night it's really dark to move around unless you carry a torch. Would appreciate a report on Tulear also. Keep it up. Cheers!
I stayed for the week-end in Tulear and on Monday I toke a taxi to Mangily. I tried first to check in in La Bella Donna. The most beautiful property in Mangily hand down. So I tried next doors in la princesse du lagon but it was also full. So I ended up in the Bamboo Club near the end of the beach. I went for the beach and found many nice girl who offered massage. All the girls proposed to come to my room for some massage and extras. During day time very easy to find many girls on the beach. And during the evening and night the place to be is The Blu bar in the center of Mangily. The walk on the beach and the road to Mangily is very dark but I never felt unsafe. The main road in Mangily is als packed with people during the evening and it is very easy to find girls there also.
I post also some pics of the girls I met on the beach.
All eager to please and very much into GFE.
Hi guys, I've been going through the thread and it seems the girls here are nice, easy, and cheap. The thing is, I don't speak a word of French and I don't own a cell phone for translation help. My question for the senior guys is that is it worth going down there with such a language barrier? I'm white, in my 30's and muscular. Will these girls see a white face and say to hell with the language barrier as long as I've got the money?
Hi guys, I've been going through the thread and it seems the girls here are nice, easy, and cheap. The thing is, I don't speak a word of French and I don't own a cell phone for translation help. My question for the senior guys is that is it worth going down there with such a language barrier? I'm white, in my 30's and muscular. Will these girls see a white face and say to hell with the language barrier as long as I've got the money?I don't speak french and always have good time here, but I use phone with translator for communication it makes life a lot of easier!! More important you have money at mada not how you look like. So buy cheap phone install translator and go a head for madagascar and enjoy!
Manfield04
11-16-19, 18:51
Not really difficult for an English speaking monger. But it is advisable to learn few words and expressions such as good morning, good afternoon / evening, thank you, make love, how much, short time, overnight etc. It will hardly take you a day or two to learn these. All the best. Whether you are white or not, it doesn't matter.
I don't speak a word of French and I don't own a cell phone for translation help. My question for the senior guys is that is it worth going down there with such a language barrier? I'm white.
Albert9989
11-16-19, 21:00
At rangelove, very nice report about mangily.
Nice to hear again about Bella Donna, a Jewell, for sure, and sorry if no room, cooking is also exceptional.
And Thanks also for the pics about massage girls, did you say how much you gave for their nice service?
Arrvived in the early morning hours at Ivato. Called hotels New Select, Sole, LE Glacier all fully booked. LE Relais Normand have a new price structure 75 k standard room, 90 k VIP. Only VIP left, needed to get my head down so I took it. The toilet is dirty and unflushed with the waste of the last occupant.
In the morning I change hotels. Sole, a really nice hotel, quote me 120 k for the double. It's 87 k on booking. They will not budge so I booked it through the website.
There is a street full of streetwalkers (actually seated) near to hotel Relais Normand. If you stand with your back to the hotel facing the market you walk towards the right, then you take the first street to the right. Around noon I saw about 20 SW's mostly seated. Most of them are not top material but they are there in case you need a quick take away.
The amount of hassle you get in Tana is in my opinion not too bad, I can handle it. Did have to keep a keep a couple of teen beggars at arms length. They where encircling me like a pack of hyenas. Ready for the kill. I really had to physically push them away from me. I suspect some beggars are actually pickpockets.
Arrvived in the early morning hours at Ivato. Called hotels New Select, Sole, LE Glacier all fully booked. LE Relais Normand have a new price structure 75 k standard room, 90 k VIP. Only VIP left, needed to get my head down so I took it. The toilet is dirty and unflushed with the waste of the last occupant. They where encircling me like a pack of hyenas. Ready for the kill. I really had to physically push them away from me. I suspect some beggars are actually pickpockets.A hotel in that price range that could be recommended is Central Hotel. Other than ownership doesn't have alcohol in the rooftop restaurant, everything else about it is great — real value. I used to stay there before Tamboho Suites opened. Warnings about pickpockets are for real. Beggars you can see coming but the real pros will stalk you and strike in pairs.
Arrvived in the early morning hours at Ivato. Called hotels New Select, Sole, LE Glacier all fully booked. LE Relais Normand have a new price structure 75 k standard room, 90 k VIP. Only VIP left, needed to get my head down so I took it. The toilet is dirty and unflushed with the waste of the last occupant.
In the morning I change hotels. Sole, a really nice hotel, quote me 120 k for the double. It's 87 k on booking. They will not budge so I booked it through the website.
There is a street full of streetwalkers (actually seated) near to hotel Relais Normand. If you stand with your back to the hotel facing the market you walk towards the right, then you take the first street to the right. Around noon I saw about 20 SW's mostly seated. Most of them are not top material but they are there in case you need a quick take away.
The amount of hassle you get in Tana is in my opinion not too bad, I can handle it. Did have to keep a keep a couple of teen beggars at arms length. They where encircling me like a pack of hyenas. Ready for the kill. I really had to physically push them away from me. I suspect some beggars are actually pickpockets.It seems to get worse by the day with the hotels in Tana. F. g Golddiggers. They're all in f. G Booking now and watch each others like hyenas. If one raises the price all other's follow suit. This f. G Internet. Get the hell out of Tana. The beggars. Very easy to deal with. Don't carry a backpack. Fanny bag. Camera. Act like a local vazaha. Walk on. Don't carry anything. Wear shades. Just nod curtly and move on. Don't talk to them. Once the vultures know you they leave you alone. They smell fresh meat.... LOL. And I know that road near Relais. Expired hookers there. Not top material LOL. Are you british... The understatement of the year....Not even for a quick takeaway.... Dont walk there after nightfall. f...g dangerous...
La Buse.
Who somehow doesn't manage to get out of Morondava. Well... I am practically belaguered in my room.. Ya that's how bad its here... give it a wide berth. hahahaha....
Have you ever had the feeling you had a date with destiny? That's how I feel about that place. I had the ticket for cotisse in my pocket for this morning but fate intervened. I went out to Insomnia around 10 after I had a beer in my favourite pirate boite. LE Daminazy. Insomnia was rather empty. Except in the rear a bunch of girls were hanging out. One caught my eye right away. An exotic beauty only Mada can produce. After smiling she came straight over. Skin like milk coffee. Turned out she's a metisse. Father Sakalave. Mother fair skinned east coast beauty. Slighty slanted eyes to drown in. Short skimpy pink miniskirt. White top. No bra. Her nipples were standing out like cannonballs. She gave me a lapdance while I was sitting gazing at the croix du sud above. I took her home. She undressed. Perfect breasts with 1 inch long nipples longing to be sucked. O man. She had the sexual energy of a medium sized atomic bomb. I sucked her pussy for like ages. She was writhing and moaning. Absolute porn star like. I stuck two fingers up her tight pussy while sucking on her clit. That send her over the edge squirting in my hand. After I shagged the living daylights in doggy I collapsed after dumping my load. The whole thing was repeated twice. And I'll keep her as she's actually living in Tana on holiday. In the morning she was surprised as I dropped 60 k AR in her handbag.
La Buse.
Who thinks to settle here and live out my day as a pirate captain.
Triple Darknes
11-21-19, 08:55
We are having an ethical discussion. Which basically leads to nowhere as there is some entrenched opinion here. Some ***** about Mada how bad and boring it is and yet they return here year after year. And they are of the opinion that only dead broke people live in Mada. LOL. As for me. I cherish my lifestyle. And actually I am spending here the least money on pussy. Hey. Food is more expensive.
La Buse.
And yes I spend another week in this boring town. And yes the beach is squeaky clean. And yes I pay 40k for pussy. And yes I love Madagascar. As for all others. Stay in Thailand.Is there a good international grocery store there? I could deal with basic infestructure and even boringness for a short period but I can't eat street food forever.
Is there a good international grocery store there? I could deal with basic infestructure and even boringness for a short period but I can't eat street food forever.You mean Morondave? No Score or ShopRite. But there is number of decent restaurants I mentioned in a previous post. LE Gourmandise a good eatery has some specialty food like butter. I don't eat street food all the time either. In the tourist area you have at least another dozen or so restos. And one decent boulangerie where you can get your Lavazza Espresso and patisserie called choco coco.
La Buse.
Member #4673
11-21-19, 12:22
I dropped 60 k AR in her handbag.Super big money for rural out of the way ghost town. In Morondava I gave 10 k and girls call me next day for more. 60 K? You need to get permanent residency from the president.
Super big money for rural out of the way ghost town. In Morondava I gave 10 k and girls call me next day for more. 60 K? You need to get permanent residency from the president.10 k is a wet dream. These days are long gone. You get by with 40 k for LT. And maybe 30 k for ST. I paid 2 times 10 k back in 2015 in Mangily for ST And I felt back then that was too low Thereafter I gave 20k. And I pay according to performance. Here between 35 k and 60 k for LT / overnight. And Morondave is a provincial town with 35.000 inhabitants not a fishing village in La Brousse.
I am a budget monger who pays fair market value. Not crazy prices but also not ridiculous low prices for so called unsophisticated ugly village nonpros..... When my chica makes me happy I make her happy too.
La Buse.
And my super sexy porn star will make me happy tonight again....
10 k is a wet dream. These days are long gone. You get by with 40 k for LT. And maybe 30 k for ST. I paid 10 k back in 2015 in Mangily. And I felt back then that was too low. And I pay according to performance. Here between 35 k and 60 k for LT / overnight. And Morondave is a provincial town with 35.000 inhabitants not a fishing village in La Brousse.
La Buse.I totally agree with you where is no flat rates for girls but short time 20-40 k and long time is 30-60 k ariary is reasonable depends from town to town and performance. I do the same like you if the girl was great performer I can give 10 or 20 k more for all night its not breaks my bank. If somebody pays girl 10 k ariary its just take fully advantages of their poor life, or they probably think they are God's gift for women. of course have many old dogs around for 10 k but i probably not touch them even they pay me .
Triple Darknes
11-21-19, 17:24
You mean Morondave? No Score or ShopRite. But there is number of decent restaurants I mentioned in a previous post. LE Gourmandise a good eatery has some specialty food like butter. I don't eat street food all the time either. In the tourist area you have at least another dozen or so restos. And one decent boulangerie where you can get your Lavazza Espresso and patisserie called choco coco.
La Buse.I almost booked a flight there but as you said it's actually more expensive to fly from Kenya to Mada than it is to fly from France to Mada and I still have to meet with non monger friends in TZ so I'll hang out there and Zanzibar for the holidays. But I'm reading your posts so I can have a handle on the country when I go. Based on what you said I decided to give Gambia a pass for the time being and will take a look at Ghana next year. Is there non pussy related things there? I know it has a beach does it have all the touristy beach stuff like Jet skis and para sailing? I'm an active retiree.
SouthEaster
11-21-19, 18:16
I seriously doubt Morondava has much in the way of jet skis and para sailing, at least I hope not. Both good signs of a location being fucked already. Nothing says beach paradise like the roar of jet skis! I think you are more of a Nosy Be type. Much more activity compared to an isolated sleepy town like Morondava.
SE.
I almost booked a flight there but as you said it's actually more expensive to fly from Kenya to Mada than it is to fly from France to Mada and I still have to meet with non monger friends in TZ so I'll hang out there and Zanzibar for the holidays. But I'm reading your posts so I can have a handle on the country when I go. Based on what you said I decided to give Gambia a pass for the time being and will take a look at Ghana next year. Is there non pussy related things there? I know it has a beach does it have all the touristy beach stuff like Jet skis and para sailing? I'm an active retiree.No this is not available. Thanks god. You can sail on an outrigger canoe or rent a quad to go to the alle de baobab. Go to Nosy Be for water sports.
La buse.
Triple Darknes
11-21-19, 22:20
No this is not available. Thanks god. You can sail on an outrigger canoe or rent a quad to go to the alle de baobab. Go to Nosy Be for water sports.
La buse.I know this is a monger board and I ask the questions that people are afraid to ask but Damn you could really spend a month on the beach without actually going to the beach?
The question had to be asked because I know if I went to the "beach" in say Sierra Leone It's going to be "unspoiled" But It ain't going to even be clean but that's why I wouldn't ask about Sierra Leone. I find Jamaica to be boring at times.
I got to ask I don't know if you heard that story about a frenchman that went to Africa and alledgely inpregnated 600 women in 3 months. I would assume that wouldn't be true, No judgement from me but do you think that's even remotely possible? If that's true why the fuck does anyone go anywhere else to monger?
Triple Darknes
11-21-19, 22:55
I seriously doubt Morondava has much in the way of jet skis and para sailing, at least I hope not. Both good signs of a location being fucked already. Nothing says beach paradise like the roar of jet skis! I think you are more of a Nosy Be type. Much more activity compared to an isolated sleepy town like Morondava.
SE.It's going to be long but let me explain my thinking. Even though I grew up in a diverse neighborhood, went to school with Africans and took college classes in African studies before I discovered this board I never considered going to Africa. I don't know if you know it but when people do trip reports especially savvy seniors such as yourself It looks like any and every girl in Africa is available.
I asked questions then I booked a two week trip to Kenya, I decided to go the Non Pro route, It worked and it didn't. I'd have comms and logistics problems with non Pros they were clingy as fuck too. It was a breath of fresh air for me because I can't fuck the same girl with a condom after awhile. I'd want to fuck but my dick doesn't get hard I can't fuck the same girl without a condom without fantisizing about another girl. So to get overnights being catered to was great (except for the clinginess) I went back again and to avoid sticky girls I focused on hardcores again it worked fine because even hardcores cater to you in Africa.
The problem is I CAN"T REALLY TALK TO THEM even in my two to three week trips I would get bored. And that was in Nairobi frankly a newbie to Africa needs a translator / guide and that's going to be the clinginess girl. If I went to a small town in Mada knowing no french I'll be dependent on some girl. If I was in some sleepy village town I don't see how I could avoid drama between girls especially If I couldn't say "I'm going to do parasailing" etc.
I promise you there's dudes reading this can you give me a "day in the life" breakdown on vacay in Mada or is it literally fucking all the time? Is it like sosua in the DR where all the women you meet are pros and thus understanding when you try to fuck her sister?
I post also some pics of the girls I met on the beach.
All eager to please and very much into GFE.As stupid as it can be it is illegal in Mada to wear camouflage pattern clothing it is really the first time I see someone in Mada except for army and law officer to wear camouflage pattern clothing.
It's going to be long but let me explain my thinking. Even though I grew up in a diverse neighborhood, went to school with Africans and took college classes in African studies before I discovered this board I never considered going to Africa. I don't know if you know it but when people do trip reports especially savvy seniors such as yourself It looks like any and every girl in Africa is available.
I asked questions then I booked a two week trip to Kenya, I decided to go the Non Pro route, It worked and it didn't. I'd have comms and logistics problems with non Pros they were clingy as fuck too. It was a breath of fresh air for me because I can't fuck the same girl with a condom after awhile. I'd want to fuck but my dick doesn't get hard I can't fuck the same girl without a condom without fantisizing about another girl. So to get overnights being catered to was great (except for the clinginess) I went back again and to avoid sticky girls I focused on hardcores again it worked fine because even hardcores cater to you in Africa.
The problem is I CAN"T REALLY TALK TO THEM even in my two to three week trips I would get bored. And that was in Nairobi frankly a newbie to Africa needs a translator / guide and that's going to be the clinginess girl. If I went to a small town in Mada knowing no french I'll be dependent on some girl. If I was in some sleepy village town I don't see how I could avoid drama between girls especially If I couldn't say "I'm going to do parasailing" etc.
I promise you there's dudes reading this can you give me a "day in the life" breakdown on vacay in Mada or is it literally fucking all the time? Is it like sosua in the DR where all the women you meet are pros and thus understanding when you try to fuck her sister?Trip. First of all. All Sex in Africa is transactional. So its hard to put chicas in shelves like pro non pro semipro. Clinginess you can have with all three types. In the jargon of the pros they consider you "husband" if you take them all the time. Get used to swap chicas all the time. I usually never hang out with a chica during daytime or wine and dine them. That's exactly when they start to expect more from you. I boot them out in the morning with taxi money. Always leave them in the dark about your next step. My standard excuse is I meet with my friends which is actually true and if she was good for a repeat she gets a call or text from me to show up for a couple of afternoon fuck or an overnighter. No matter what. They get the boot in the morning. YOU have to be in charge all the time. Any chica will spot immediately weak guys and clean them out.
NEVER EVER rely on a girl as guide. Find your way around yourself. Make proper planning a priority. This is not Thailand where you just have to find Soi 6 on Google maps. A good monger resource I used besides this forum was the Naughty Nomad. He wrote some basic stuff on his website about technique which I found very helpful. Other than that. NOTHING can save you from doing your research. RTFF. The better you are prepared the less mistakes you going to make. Every country has its peculiarites. Here Betsileo for example don't give head. Its fady. I am good at my game because I research.
Culture.
History.
Politics.
Climate.
Geography.
Anthropology.
IMHO arrive with a lot of time and patience. 2 weeks in Africa is nothing.
In Africa you have to become explorer of women. Think of it as hunting. You wait in front of the waterhole until game shows up.
La Buse.
Flew in from crowded Tana to Tulear. Totally different. Now I understand what NMexpert means with the 'Wild West'. It's difficult to describe the atmosphere here but generally laidback and it seems like anything goes. I walked yesterday night the sea side boulevard and the triangle around the Amazone hotel. You see hardly any vahaza walking but I didn't feel unsafe. Many people around and street walkers everywhere in that area. Took one for 20 K ST + taxi money. Tuk tuk are 1000 k day and night. Also visited the famous discoteque Robyv. A lot off ass twerking going on lol.
Wouldn't mind meeting someone with more experience here to get some sound advice. For intance the 'carnets' of the ladies. They aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Hotels: LE recife fully booked, went to LE recife annex 2 km's down the road. It's a dump, rooms 30 000 k non-ventilated, 35000 ventilated. 40000 k air conditioning. Can be booked as ST hotel 20000 for 2 hrs.
Switched today to Saifee Hotel 75000 for the double, flat screen, satellite channels, nice balcony, clean, shower could be a tad better but still acceptable, shampoo in the dispenser and a dressing gown. Very similar quality to the Serena Hotel. They are also very close to each other. The Serena was 10000 k more but had a fridge the Saifee did not but had a balcony.
Triple Darknes
11-22-19, 15:33
Trip. First of all. All Sex in Africa is transactional. So its hard to put chicas in shelves like pro non pro semipro. Clinginess you can have with all three types. In the jargon of the pros they consider you "husband" if you take them all the time. Get used to swap chicas all the time. I usually never hang out with a chica during daytime or wine and dine them. That's exactly when they start to expect more from you. I boot them out in the morning with taxi money. Always leave them in the dark about your next step. My standard excuse is I meet with my friends which is actually true and if she was good for a repeat she gets a call or text from me to show up for a couple of afternoon fuck or an overnighter. No matter what. They get the boot in the morning. YOU have to be in charge all the time. Any chica will spot immediately weak guys and clean them out.
NEVER EVER rely on a girl as guide. Find your way around yourself. Make proper planning a priority. This is not Thailand where you just have to find Soi 6 on Google maps. A good monger resource I used besides this forum was the Naughty Nomad. He wrote some basic stuff on his website about technique which I found very helpful. Other than that. NOTHING can save you from doing your research. RTFF. The better you are prepared the less mistakes you going to make. Every country has its peculiarites. Here Betsileo for example don't give head. Its fady. I am good at my game because I research.
Culture.
History.
Politics.
Climate.
Geography.
Anthropology.
IMHO arrive with a lot of time and patience. 2 weeks in Africa is nothing.
In Africa you have to become explorer of women. Think of it as hunting. You wait in front of the waterhole until game shows up.
La Buse.I see maybe my mistake is I went to an English speaking country. If I went to Mada then I would have no expectations. But remember I'm coming from the states. Read but the problem is I let them make breakfast.
Nothing seems to beat cold hard experience in the west she's either a working girl or a girlfriend. It's not like that in Africa. I might spend a few months in Mada. My main problem will be ATMs. For some reason I could use my ATM card in TZ with no problem but they didn't work as well in "modern" Kenya.
Thanks for the advice.
Trip.
. I am good at my game because I research
Culture.
History.
Politics.
Climate.
Geography.
Anthropology..What a ton of crap. You only need to research to find out if it's cheap enough that you can afford it. LOL. Keep it real, people.
Hi guys,
I never was in Africa before and hadn't planned to go, but somehow I found this thread and from time to time read it for about a year. That was entertaining to read, thanks. And now I am in Mada, you kinda lured me in here with your reports.
But reality so far is not so bright as I hoped.
Well, as the winter was coming to my country I as usual fled away from it. This time to Madagascar. On the Internet it is said that I can get 2 month visa on arrival + 1 month extention with my shitty passport of central Asian country. But mf in Ivato airport had his own opinion on that and only gave me 1 month stamp. So later I got additional 2 month extention in Tamatave immigration office. (followed the instruction from here, by Neddy I think, thanks. I paid 100 k in office and 30 minutes later took it back).
First I went for standart tourist route with baobabs and lemurs. 12 day later was dropped off in Tamatave, at Miray hotel, where I am currently in (100 k / day).
2 weeks of abstinence and as soon it got dark I went out, Monday. Ate dinner at empty la terrasse, then moved to "beach road". Well, you have to bring flashlight with you to see anything. Its dark there, and I just saw uncertain shadows with rare "bonjours". OK, never liked to pick girls from streets anyway. Sat in nearby bar for a drink. Two big beers later I am in a good condition and its only 8 pm. Went to queens, few ugly girls there. At least there was light and I could see them. Manager speaks a little Russian, which surprised me. I have 0 French, BTW. Spent 2 hours there drinking beer and waiting taxi be to open. Taxi be was also empty with 4-5 girl, and after 11 it got busier. I was pretty drunk already, picked a girl and we moved to my room. After 1st lazy fuck she quickly decided to leave, gave her 30 k, later in the morning found out that she stole money from my wallet, 40 k or so. Not a good start.
Tried Badoo, wrote to about 20 girls aged 18-23 (I am 28) that I want meet them for money, got 3 replies, only one actully made it to my room. Dissapoining %. But the girl was great, repeated her 3 days later.
Also tried facebook for the first time in my life. Didn't get it how to search for girls properly, set age range and location? (some have only profile foto and no information at all). Gave up after 10 minutes.
Met a great 19 yo girl in taxibe few days later. Fantastic body, good attitude, speaks little English. Next morning she for some reason took me to see her house, if you can call it a house. Small hut with a fan, sofa, bed and TV among dozens of other huts (50 k / month to rent as she said). Half the "village" came to see me and drink beer, which she bought (I think she spent all money I gave her on beer. I myself drank 5 bottles, and there were at least 6 other people coming and going). Then we went to say Hello, to her sister and drink some more beer. That was a real shithole and my girl's room is a presidential suite in comparison. But interesting experience overall.
Few next days I spend with her. We went to fulpoint (not worth the trip), clubs, swimming pool, beach. Gave her around 50 k each day. Funny moment. On the 2nd day I started to fuck her bareback, but pulled out and didn't cum inside. Next day she shows me contraseptive pills she bought so I could not worry about kids. Thank you baby.
Weird shit that happened. In taxi be see 1 girl that I like and we started drink together with her friend. Then after some time I translate her on the phone that its time to go and I'll give you 50 k for the night, she says ok and when we're leaving her friend comes with us. Well, she is okay, theesome maybe. 3 of us together came to my room and then they start to discuss something about my regular girl and me in malagasy (I only understood names, fulpoint etc). The mood has changed. 20 minutes passed. "I need to separate them" I thought. But second girl doesn't want to leave, although I gave her money for taxi. First girl started act strange. Said she needs to go at 7 (and now is almost 4 am), which meant 1 fuck, then I must do it quckly and not to hard. Well, I got pissed, try to get them out. But now both of them didn't want to leave. I call the receptionist, he comes and after talking to girls says "you have to give them money if you want them to leave. " WTF?-I already gave them money for taxi. -Not enough. He says "I cannot force them to leave for some reason and don't want to call the police, just give them 30 k and everyone is happy". Wtf, I rent the room, not them. Great support, bro. Eventually I gave them money. What you would do in same situation?
Weird shit #2. Morning I want to have a hair cut. Catch puss-puss and explain him what I need, he says okok. I tell 1 k to get me there, he nods head. We go to one shop. Closed, then to the second shitty hut 3 x2 meters 4 guys in there. Well, at least they have scissors. My puss driver says he will wait me. I show him 2 finger and say 2 k, he nods. After hair is done we are going back and driver says "How much you pay", "the fuck you mean, 2 k we talked about it already", "No, 5 k". I get off the bike give him 2 k and try to leave, he follows and mumble something about fighting me if I don't give him 5 k (the guy is half my size, BTW), starts to scream. Again would you do? I gave money to that poor little fuck.
Have one more week here in Tamatave. Getting bored. Went to Pandora for the first time yesterday 11 pm-1 am, very few lone girls, several couples and big malagasy groups of 6-7 people on 1 table. Maybe on weekend it is better. Regular girl annoys "marry me and go back europe together" Aha, in your dreams baby.
What a blanket I wrote. Here until Jan. 11, want to go to Tana and Nosy be next. Hope it will be better. Is the raining season really heavy in Nosy be?
What a ton of crap. You only need to research to find out if it's cheap enough that you can afford it. LOL. Keep it real, people.Well. Seems to be good enough as I put in a lot of information on Angola which you can use now. Otherwise you'll probably didn't even realize the currency was collapsing. Most subsaharan african countries are cheap enough on a budget of 1000 usd a month. That's an African middle class income. If you want to overspend voluntarily. That's your problem.
Member #4673
11-22-19, 19:55
If you want to overspend voluntarily. That's your problem.His problem is that your budget is 1 k per month and not if it's enough to live under it. You already super generous for girls.
So why he his so obsessed with your budget if you are a generous person? Maybe because the part of your technical contribution is covered with a lot of bulshit, I mean Tons of it. Not only that but you also think you know better then others and advise them to RTFF which add another layer of bulshit.
That's what trigger his constant attacks on your lower income. So basically he want to say with 1 kUSD per month you're not a very successful person so please cut this shit.
Well. Seems to be good enough as I put in a lot of information on Angola which you can use now. Otherwise you'll probably didn't even realize the currency was collapsing. Most subsaharan african countries are cheap enough on a budget of 1000 usd a month. That's an African middle class income. If you want to overspend voluntarily. That's your problem.Dude, to know the currency exchange rate anywhere takes less than a minute. To know the oil boom is over in Angola is old news. If a budget of 1000 usd a month is good enough for you that's just a reflection of your class and comfort zone. I'm looking forward to Luanda and don't intend to experience it on a 'African middle class income'. Afterwards, I'll be glad to point out where the girls and fun spots are located.
Triple Darknes
11-23-19, 01:12
Hi guys,
I never was in Africa before and hadn't planned to go, but somehow I found this thread and from time to time read it for about a year. That was entertaining to read, thanks. And now I am in Mada, you kinda lured me in here with your reports.
But reality so far is not so bright as I hoped.
Well, as the winter was coming to my country I as usual fled away from it. This time to Madagascar. On the Internet it is said that I can get 2 month visa on arrival + 1 month extention with my shitty passport of central Asian country. But mf in Ivato airport had his own opinion on that and only gave me 1 month stamp. So later I got additional 2 month extention in Tamatave immigration office. (followed the instruction from here, by Neddy I think, thanks. I paid 100 k in office and 30 minutes later took it back).
First I went for standart tourist route with baobabs and lemurs. 12 day later was dropped off in Tamatave, at Miray hotel, where I am currently in (100 k / day).
2 weeks of abstinence and as soon it got dark I went out, Monday. Ate dinner at empty la terrasse, then moved to "beach road". Well, you have to bring flashlight with you to see anything. Its dark there, and I just saw uncertain shadows with rare "bonjours". OK, never liked to pick girls from streets anyway. Sat in nearby bar for a drink. Two big beers later I am in a good condition and its only 8 pm. Went to queens, few ugly girls there. At least there was light and I could see them. Manager speaks a little Russian, which surprised me. I have 0 French, BTW. Spent 2 hours there drinking beer and waiting taxi be to open. Taxi be was also empty with 4-5 girl, and after 11 it got busier. I was pretty drunk already, picked a girl and we moved to my room. After 1st lazy fuck she quickly decided to leave, gave her 30 k, later in the morning found out that she stole money from my wallet, 40 k or so. Not a good start.
Tried Badoo, wrote to about 20 girls aged 18-23 (I am 28) that I want meet them for money, got 3 replies, only one actully made it to my room. Dissapoining %. But the girl was great, repeated her 3 days later.
Also tried facebook for the first time in my life. Didn't get it how to search for girls properly, set age range and location? (some have only profile foto and no information at all). Gave up after 10 minutes.
Met a great 19 yo girl in taxibe few days later. Fantastic body, good attitude, speaks little English. Next morning she for some reason took me to see her house, if you can call it a house. Small hut with a fan, sofa, bed and TV among dozens of other huts (50 k / month to rent as she said). Half the "village" came to see me and drink beer, which she bought (I think she spent all money I gave her on beer. I myself drank 5 bottles, and there were at least 6 other people coming and going). Then we went to say Hello, to her sister and drink some more beer. That was a real shithole and my girl's room is a presidential suite in comparison. But interesting experience overall.
Few next days I spend with her. We went to fulpoint (not worth the trip), clubs, swimming pool, beach. Gave her around 50 k each day. Funny moment. On the 2nd day I started to fuck her bareback, but pulled out and didn't cum inside. Next day she shows me contraseptive pills she bought so I could not worry about kids. Thank you baby.
Weird shit that happened. In taxi be see 1 girl that I like and we started drink together with her friend. Then after some time I translate her on the phone that its time to go and I'll give you 50 k for the night, she says ok and when we're leaving her friend comes with us. Well, she is okay, theesome maybe. 3 of us together came to my room and then they start to discuss something about my regular girl and me in malagasy (I only understood names, fulpoint etc). The mood has changed. 20 minutes passed. "I need to separate them" I thought. But second girl doesn't want to leave, although I gave her money for taxi. First girl started act strange. Said she needs to go at 7 (and now is almost 4 am), which meant 1 fuck, then I must do it quckly and not to hard. Well, I got pissed, try to get them out. But now both of them didn't want to leave. I call the receptionist, he comes and after talking to girls says "you have to give them money if you want them to leave. " WTF?-I already gave them money for taxi. -Not enough. He says "I cannot force them to leave for some reason and don't want to call the police, just give them 30 k and everyone is happy". Wtf, I rent the room, not them. Great support, bro. Eventually I gave them money. What you would do in same situation?
Weird shit #2. Morning I want to have a hair cut. Catch puss-puss and explain him what I need, he says okok. I tell 1 k to get me there, he nods head. We go to one shop. Closed, then to the second shitty hut 3 x2 meters 4 guys in there. Well, at least they have scissors. My puss driver says he will wait me. I show him 2 finger and say 2 k, he nods. After hair is done we are going back and driver says "How much you pay", "the fuck you mean, 2 k we talked about it already", "No, 5 k". I get off the bike give him 2 k and try to leave, he follows and mumble something about fighting me if I don't give him 5 k (the guy is half my size, BTW), starts to scream. Again would you do? I gave money to that poor little fuck.
Have one more week here in Tamatave. Getting bored. Went to Pandora for the first time yesterday 11 pm-1 am, very few lone girls, several couples and big malagasy groups of 6-7 people on 1 table. Maybe on weekend it is better. Regular girl annoys "marry me and go back europe together" Aha, in your dreams baby.
What a blanket I wrote. Here until Jan. 11, want to go to Tana and Nosy be next. Hope it will be better. Is the raining season really heavy in Nosy be?I'm sorry your trip sucked and that's why I ask the questions that I ask. Most experienced mongers will tell you to kick the girl out in the morning.
That's why I don't want to go somewhere so poor and so dependent on tourist dollars that you have to pay to avoid jail. Uber or some kind of ride app stops the taxi hustle. I would've paid the girls off too. Africa is not Asia not saying that 3 somes isn't possible but she'd have to be a severe hardcore to accept it immediately.
If the place has touristy shit that would be diversion but I was in your shoes at one point pissed off that I had to pay for quality or accept quantity. I suggest that on your next trip that you go to a more developed place.
Trip.
His problem is that your budget is 1 k per month and not if it's enough to live under it. You already super generous for girls.
So why he his so obsessed with your budget if you are a generous person? Maybe because the part of your technical contribution is covered with a lot of bulshit, I mean Tons of it. Not only that but you also think you know better then others and advise them to RTFF which add another layer of bulshit.
That's what trigger his constant attacks on your lower income. So basically he want to say with 1 kUSD per month you're not a very successful person so please cut this shit.Did I mention my income? None of anybody's business. I talked about MY budget. I know that millions 50+ men languish in shitty expensive Western countries living out their last year's lives in shitty council housing, while they could live in Paradise on their meagre state pensions. But 99% will not actually move to these countries because it means getting out of the comfort zone. Learning languages. Getting to know the culture. Live without power and running water. Deal with corrupt cops and bad ass chicas on the take.
And my writing style is how it is. I don't force anybody to read my posts. If you consider my style BS nobody forces you to read it. Why I write RTFF. Because people think here info is handed on a silver platter. Maybe I write an African mongers guide one day. And its gonna be f...g expensive. LOL. And all my statements are FACT. Show me where I invented anything. I posted EXACTLY how to extend the Visa for Madagascar. You just posted a picture of a sign post in Nosy Be which half the information missing. Youve been ripped off in Kenya. I've been ripped off in Kenya. You're just in search of your own vanity. And I'll continue to give advice which is obviously from MY perspective. I write what I pay. Where did I mention that I know better than others? Everybody has its unique experience. Some think like the previous poster. All it takes to book a flight to Mada and play a little sex tourist. Well these people are in for a rude awakening.
Shalom
La Buse.
Hi guys,
I never was in Africa before and hadn't planned to go, but somehow I found this thread and from time to time read it for about a year. That was entertaining to read, thanks. And now I am in Mada, you kinda lured me in here with your reports.
But reality so far is not so bright as I hoped.
Well, as the winter was coming to my country I as usual fled away from it. This time to Madagascar. On the Internet it is said that I can get 2 month visa on arrival + 1 month extention with my shitty passport of central Asian country. But mf in Ivato airport had his own opinion on that and only gave me 1 month stamp. So later I got additional 2 month extention in Tamatave immigration office. (followed the instruction from here, by Neddy I think, thanks. I paid 100 k in office and 30 minutes later took it back).
First I went for standart tourist route with baobabs and lemurs. 12 day later was dropped off in Tamatave, at Miray hotel, where I am currently in (100 k / day).
2 weeks of abstinence and as soon it got dark I went out, Monday. Ate dinner at empty la terrasse, then moved to "beach road". Well, you have to bring flashlight with you to see anything. Its dark there, and I just saw uncertain shadows with rare "bonjours". OK, never liked to pick girls from streets anyway. Sat in nearby bar for a drink. Two big beers later I am in a good condition and its only 8 pm. Went to queens, few ugly girls there. At least there was light and I could see them. Manager speaks a little Russian, which surprised me. I have 0 French, BTW. Spent 2 hours there drinking beer and waiting taxi be to open. Taxi be was also empty with 4-5 girl, and after 11 it got busier. I was pretty drunk already, picked a girl and we moved to my room. After 1st lazy fuck she quickly decided to leave, gave her 30 k, later in the morning found out that she stole money from my wallet, 40 k or so. Not a good start.
Tried Badoo, wrote to about 20 girls aged 18-23 (I am 28) that I want meet them for money, got 3 replies, only one actully made it to my room. Dissapoining %. But the girl was great, repeated her 3 days later.
Also tried facebook for the first time in my life. Didn't get it how to search for girls properly, set age range and location? (some have only profile foto and no information at all). Gave up after 10 minutes.
Met a great 19 yo girl in taxibe few days later. Fantastic body, good attitude, speaks little English. Next morning she for some reason took me to see her house, if you can call it a house. Small hut with a fan, sofa, bed and TV among dozens of other huts (50 k / month to rent as she said). Half the "village" came to see me and drink beer, which she bought (I think she spent all money I gave her on beer. I myself drank 5 bottles, and there were at least 6 other people coming and going). Then we went to say Hello, to her sister and drink some more beer. That was a real shithole and my girl's room is a presidential suite in comparison. But interesting experience overall.
Few next days I spend with her. We went to fulpoint (not worth the trip), clubs, swimming pool, beach. Gave her around 50 k each day. Funny moment. On the 2nd day I started to fuck her bareback, but pulled out and didn't cum inside. Next day she shows me contraseptive pills she bought so I could not worry about kids. Thank you baby.
Weird shit that happened. In taxi be see 1 girl that I like and we started drink together with her friend. Then after some time I translate her on the phone that its time to go and I'll give you 50 k for the night, she says ok and when we're leaving her friend comes with us. Well, she is okay, theesome maybe. 3 of us together came to my room and then they start to discuss something about my regular girl and me in malagasy (I only understood names, fulpoint etc). The mood has changed. 20 minutes passed. "I need to separate them" I thought. But second girl doesn't want to leave, although I gave her money for taxi. First girl started act strange. Said she needs to go at 7 (and now is almost 4 am), which meant 1 fuck, then I must do it quckly and not to hard. Well, I got pissed, try to get them out. But now both of them didn't want to leave. I call the receptionist, he comes and after talking to girls says "you have to give them money if you want them to leave. " WTF?-I already gave them money for taxi. -Not enough. He says "I cannot force them to leave for some reason and don't want to call the police, just give them 30 k and everyone is happy". Wtf, I rent the room, not them. Great support, bro. Eventually I gave them money. What you would do in same situation?
Weird shit #2. Morning I want to have a hair cut. Catch puss-puss and explain him what I need, he says okok. I tell 1 k to get me there, he nods head. We go to one shop. Closed, then to the second shitty hut 3 x2 meters 4 guys in there. Well, at least they have scissors. My puss driver says he will wait me. I show him 2 finger and say 2 k, he nods. After hair is done we are going back and driver says "How much you pay", "the fuck you mean, 2 k we talked about it already", "No, 5 k". I get off the bike give him 2 k and try to leave, he follows and mumble something about fighting me if I don't give him 5 k (the guy is half my size, BTW), starts to scream. Again would you do? I gave money to that poor little fuck.
Have one more week here in Tamatave. Getting bored. Went to Pandora for the first time yesterday 11 pm-1 am, very few lone girls, several couples and big malagasy groups of 6-7 people on 1 table. Maybe on weekend it is better. Regular girl annoys "marry me and go back europe together" Aha, in your dreams baby.
What a blanket I wrote. Here until Jan. 11, want to go to Tana and Nosy be next. Hope it will be better. Is the raining season really heavy in Nosy be?Good report. You took the plunge. But as I pointed out previously. Mada is for advanced Africa mongers. You're just facing the steeper learning curve. Better stick to Kenya next time. About the pousse. Some try to overcharge. I don't care. Never argue with anybody for 50 cents give or take. Bad karma. Taxidrivers all over the world are the same. Same with the girls. I can tell you stories from Mtwapa.... Just pay as you did. That's part of your training fees. There's always some assholes. In Africa just see the witch doctor. He'll put a curse on him all right. I did that with a thieving girl once...
La Buse.
January should be ok. There can be some days of heavy rain and if you're very unlucky you'll experience a passing cyclone.
check this page for updates:
https://www.mtotec.com/page-analyse
Member #4673
11-23-19, 10:10
If you consider my style BS nobody forces you to read it.
Shalom
La Buse.I agree.
But I have zero issue with you, I was just explaining why you constantly attacked for being poor by him. (Not me!
And I agree if anyone don't other member reports he can use the ISG feature "Add to Ignore List" .
Member #4673
11-23-19, 11:05
I spent a full month in the Non mongering town of Sambava during September 2019.
Arrived with tsaradia flight from diego on time. From the airport I walked 1 minute to the main road and took a Bazaz for 1 k to Villa Layannah. https://goo.gl/maps/4Axitb74iPSpLyAG8.
To be precise I went down on the main road as if Bazaz get down to secondary Road you add 1 k more. You all know Villa sheridan so its the same place as the old Vhaza sold it to local family, Now the place was entirely renovated and painted etc. They have hot water and free WIFI although the router is on the ground floor so single strength is not that good on upper floor that face the sea.
Front room price is 50 k but I paid 45 k. Since sambava is not yet connected by asphalt road to ambilobe everything is expensive so I bought once few Eau vive and fill it from the owner kitchen Tap. This is a separate pipe line then you have in your room and used for drinking.
Sambava does not have any serious supermarket and nearly no value restaurants outside the hotels. So you can go to Pizzeria Boule the'or https://goo.gl/maps/NPFhbpfn4pFNUWfw6 or hotel Carrefour https://goo.gl/maps/nSoEfrofzXi7QNfC8 or a few Bakery / restaurants around here https://goo.gl/maps/z3J8cu7UcEf9GKzu7.
There is a new Gym for 150 k per month next to Pizzeria Boule the'or in the way to the beach with several girls shaping their butt.
Sunday evening is when the beach get full of people and you can easy pick what you want although not many adult girls. Sometimes you can see girls passing in the beach in front of the hotel and they all come to your room. I got one girl as she drive in a Bazaz in the opposite direction as I walked. She went down and introduce herself the rest is history. The best way to keep in touch is to get his facebook ID as phone numbers come and go and FB has a unique identifier as physical phone tend to get lost often there.
Beside a week with that girl I spent 3 weeks with my Local GF which was the reason I got there at the first place. One thing I don't understand is why I didn't get bored for full month there. Maybe because I saw sitting directly on a stunning beach or because My girl was always in my bed.
There 3 discos but the leader is Baladin https://goo.gl/maps/iTwfHvBRTmqBfKJA9 you can follow the upcoming event on the street sign.
I never was in Africa before and hadn't planned to go, but somehow I found this thread and from time to time read it for about a year. That was entertaining to read, thanks. And now I am in Mada, you kinda lured me in here with your reports.
But reality so far is not so bright as I hoped..Here until Jan. 11, want to go to Tana and Nosy be next. Hope it will be better. Is the raining season really heavy in Nosy be?There is nothing special or magical about Africa, Madagascar or anywhere that you need to know. Girls are the same the world over: some will like you, some will not, c'est la vie. Just put yourself in action, and things happen, hopefully good. Inshallah.
At rangelove, very nice report about mangily.
Nice to hear again about Bella Donna, a Jewell, for sure, and sorry if no room, cooking is also exceptional.
And Thanks also for the pics about massage girls, did you say how much you gave for their nice service?Girls quote 30 k for ST and 40 k for long time.
They always try LT say very very long time as they try to stay with you during your whole journey.
In most places of the world you have many runners, but in Mada the most difficult thing is to get them leave the room next day.
All the girls always stayed with me till I left the room myself for breakfast or lunch.
As stupid as it can be it is illegal in Mada to wear camouflage pattern clothing it is really the first time I see someone in Mada except for army and law officer to wear camouflage pattern clothing.Both girls are tigers in bed. Maybe that's why they wear tiger camouflage clothing.
They never got arrested to my knowledge.
Police was always too busy installing road blocks to extort money from the already poor population.
I agree.
But I have zero issue with you, I was just explaining why you constantly attacked for being poor by him. (Not me!
And I agree if anyone don't other member reports he can use the ISG feature "Add to Ignore List" .Ok case closed.
Enjoy.
La Buse.
Wo had his balls drained just very recently by my porn star.
people think here info is handed on a silver platter. Maybe I write an African mongers guide one day. And its gonna be f...g expensive. LOL. And all my statements are FACT. Show me where I invented anything. I posted EXACTLY how to extend the Visa for Madagascar. You just posted a picture of a sign post in Nosy Be which half the information missing. Youve been ripped off in Kenya. book a flight to Mada and play a little sex tourist. Well these people are in for a rude awakenin.First you post how great it is, how its a place where everyone sitting home alone can come to and get laid for next to nothing. But, but, its not for everyone because it's not easy like Pattaya. Fortunately you know how do it and you have information, enough information to make a guide, that you can sell! Oy vey.
SlutLuster
11-23-19, 19:18
I'm interested in going to Madagascar early to mid 2020. I am fascinated by the world of free & easy GFE, and cheap beach housing, and interesting things to photograph.
What I'd like to address is the contradiction of this place. It seems easy: The girls will say Bonjour if they fancy you, you look at them and if they fancy you back you say likewise. And then you lead them to your room and slip them somewhere between 30-50 k MGA. Which is, in United States Dollars, approximately nothing. That sounds almost as straightforward and easy as, say, Angeles in the Philippines except with less of a blatant pay-for-sex atmosphere. Yes, you have to pay but it's softer in feel.
Now, I am a soft western guy who likes his creature comforts. But if I am understanding correctly, there is one place where they exist: Nosy Be. If I go to Nosy Be, I might not get as perfect a GFE as some of the other places, but I would have reasonably civilized infrastructure, nice albeit expensive hotels, more or less functioning WiFi, etc. (I am in Mexico right now and I survived two days of non-functioning WiFi, although I would have rather not.).
So I go to Nosy Be, I find a cheap hotel right on the beach, and I enjoy my daily swim. I have our friend Google for translation services. As long as I have WiFi and the swim I am content. If I have girls that's the cherry on top. And it seems like girls should be plentiful and willing.
I do not have a lot of money. My budget would be gone in seconds in the French Riviera. But I have maybe 2-3 times what others are reporting spending. If I lose 30-40 k MGA a few times to scams it's not going to hurt me.
So: What do you guys think of my "soft western approach to Madagascar"? On paper it doesn't sound that much different from Angeles, but many posts in this forum say it's considerably more difficult than Angeles. I have read a lot about the difficulty of transportation and the often high cost of getting around, but it seems to me that if I fly in to Nosy Be and spend my trip in that area it would not be so bad.
So here I am, knock some holes in my plan and let me know the strong and weak points. If I go I will leave a detailed, verbose account with really, really nice quality photographs.
SouthEaster
11-23-19, 23:56
Not contradictions, it's just how the place is. Nosy Be is generally the place that most people think has the best infrastructure and is newbie friendly. I would tend to agree although I don't fancy the place much myself. By 2-3 times what most people are spending are you talking $1000 a month like Neddy? If you are you will live like a king. Your attitude about small losses is the right one, especially on your first trip. If you piss away 50 bucks in small rip offs or a girl that doesn't turn out well it is small potatoes for some lessons well learned.
This all said even nosy be has issues like the rest of Mada, just not as many and not as bad! I am currently in Mexico as well and if you think Mexican infrastructure is not up to snuff, well you ain't seen nothing yet. Think the PI 30 years ago.
You will probably encounter a couple of naysayers here. My advice is ignore them and give it a try. What is the worst that can happen? Ripped off more than expected, more of a shithole than you expected, girls unfriendly or duds (should not be an issue LOL). OK, you tried and it's not for you.
Just make sure you pay the girls 10 times the going rate. You wouldn't want to "exploit" them!
Muzungufotsy
11-24-19, 02:51
Girls quote 30 k for ST and 40 k for long time.
They always try LT say very very long time as they try to stay with you during your whole journey.
In most places of the world you have many runners, but in Mada the most difficult thing is to get them leave the room next day.
All the girls always stayed with me till I left the room myself for breakfast or lunch.Never paid these rates in Mangily. These are Nosybe rates not Mangily rates. Its half price easily. No wonder you can't kick them out.
SlutLuster
11-24-19, 09:43
This all said even nosy be has issues like the rest of Mada, just not as many and not as bad! I am currently in Mexico as well and if you think Mexican infrastructure is not up to snuff, well you ain't seen nothing yet. Think the PI 30 years ago.I'm in San Miguel de Allende, where I gather Mexico cleans up and welcomes the gringo at the expense of near-Western real estate prices. Everything else is surprisingly cheap. Don't know how the natives manage, but almost all my cab drivers are old guys who clearly bought their housing when it was dirt cheap. The only thing I noticed bad about infrastructure is that sidewalks are an obstacle course and cobblestone streets hurt my feet. Lovely place but girls conspicuous by their absence. I enjoy having top-end dining for around $25 a plate instead of $100 in Miami. I don't notice much commentary on food in Madagascar but it sounds like there is at least some French food in Nosy Be, which would be interesting even if not entirely authentic.
You will probably encounter a couple of naysayers here. My advice is ignore them and give it a try. What is the worst that can happen? Ripped off more than expected, more of a shithole than you expected, girls unfriendly or duds (should not be an issue LOL). OK, you tried and it's not for you.You know, the guy who was unhappy didn't do that bad. He had some good experiences and got ripped off but not enough to damage him. He definitely got laid. I think I would have been a bit more adventurous, wanting to investigate 'bonjour' when he passed. I think he might be naturally grumpy where I am more roll with the punches style.
Just make sure you pay the girls 10 times the going rate. You wouldn't want to "exploit" them!But then I would be ruining the ecosystem for everyone else! So no I would pay the going rate. It does not sound to me that the girls feel like they are being exploited. And to me they are the proper judges. I am of the age where discomfort is not for me. I might even blow the $8 k for business class. Yikes! Is it worth it? But if that means I could hit the ground running it might be worth it.
What do you dislike about Nosy Be? Is there a place you would recommend more for the traveler who starts there and wants at least some amenities? Most important for me is decent Internet and good restaurants. It's great in Mexico. When it works. LOL.
Triple Darknes
11-24-19, 10:25
I'm interested in going to Madagascar early to mid 2020. I am fascinated by the world of free & easy GFE, and cheap beach housing, and interesting things to photograph.
What I'd like to address is the contradiction of this place. It seems easy: The girls will say Bonjour if they fancy you, you look at them and if they fancy you back you say likewise. And then you lead them to your room and slip them somewhere between 30-50 k MGA. Which is, in United States Dollars, approximately nothing. That sounds almost as straightforward and easy as, say, Angeles in the Philippines except with less of a blatant pay-for-sex atmosphere. Yes, you have to pay but it's softer in feel.
Now, I am a soft western guy who likes his creature comforts. But if I am understanding correctly, there is one place where they exist: Nosy Be. If I go to Nosy Be, I might not get as perfect a GFE as some of the other places, but I would have reasonably civilized infrastructure, nice albeit expensive hotels, more or less functioning WiFi, etc. (I am in Mexico right now and I survived two days of non-functioning WiFi, although I would have rather not.).
So I go to Nosy Be, I find a cheap hotel right on the beach, and I enjoy my daily swim. I have our friend Google for translation services. As long as I have WiFi and the swim I am content. If I have girls that's the cherry on top. And it seems like girls should be plentiful and willing.
I do not have a lot of money. My budget would be gone in seconds in the French Riviera. But I have maybe 2-3 times what others are reporting spending. If I lose 30-40 k MGA a few times to scams it's not going to hurt me.
So: What do you guys think of my "soft western approach to Madagascar"? On paper it doesn't sound that much different from Angeles, but many posts in this forum say it's considerably more difficult than Angeles. I have read a lot about the difficulty of transportation and the often high cost of getting around, but it seems to me that if I fly in to Nosy Be and spend my trip in that area it would not be so bad.
So here I am, knock some holes in my plan and let me know the strong and weak points. If I go I will leave a detailed, verbose account with really, really nice quality photographs.You sound a lot like me. I don't want to rough it on my vacation. I need some western food and definitely western style hygiene standards. I haven't been to Mada yet so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt but Africa is not what it seems I have gotten 5 dollar short time in Nairobi. If you're in Africa and willing to go for ST you can pay 5 dollars or less once you've been there for a while (meaning six months or so) the problem isn't the price that you pay it's the long term costs.
You say you're a soft western guy I'm a soft western guy go to a country where almost no one speaks English a meet a chick who sucks and fucks the soul out of you who speaks English. You're going to feel sorry for her.
Better to get your sea legs with Nairobi slay queens until you develop the hardness for Africa. The only reason I'm going to Mada is to deletion the hardness. Besides as a westerner you'the want a girl with some western education. I'm going to Dar es Salaam where I'm going to try to meet a college graduate that I met in a Dar MP. Because she has a job now (not at the MP) she's not asking for money (the western union hustle) I'm going to ask her respectfully if I could fuck her sister who's also a college graduate.
Mada is not the place for a first trip to Africa in my opinion.
Trip.
Had a look at Hotel LE Recife today. They only have 11 rooms and until now they where fully booked. At 45 000 it's a good deal but in comparison to Hotel Saïfee (75 000) the rooms are smaller and scruffy. Considering Tulear (Toliara) doesn't have a decent beach the swimming pool is a big bonus but I'm going to stay in Saïfee. If necessary I'll compromise in areas like Nosy Be where accomodation is more expensive.
Member #4673
11-24-19, 12:36
Had a look at Hotel LE Recife today. They only have 11 rooms and until now they where fully booked. At 45 000 it's a good deal but in comparison to Hotel Safee (75 000) the rooms are smaller and scruffy. .Don't forget the huge gym at LE Recife. Does Hotel Safee has Aircon?
Had a look at Hotel LE Recife today. They only have 11 rooms and until now they where fully booked. At 45 000 it's a good deal but in comparison to Hotel Safee (75 000) the rooms are smaller and scruffy. Considering Tulear (Toliara) doesn't have a decent beach the swimming pool is a big bonus but I'm going to stay in Safee. If necessary I'll compromise in areas like Nosy Be where accomodation is more expensive.The Saifee is my favorite hotel in Tulear. The only negative thing is the lack of blackout curtain. I had to put the bedspread over the window (which also cut down on the heat of the day) in order to sleep later. Their breakfast is a little weak, too, otherwise Saifee is ideal for this town (unless you crave a swimming pool).
I'm interested in going to Madagascar early to mid 2020. I am fascinated by the world of free & easy GFE, and cheap beach housing, and interesting things to photograph.
What I'd like to address is the contradiction of this place. It seems easy: The girls will say Bonjour if they fancy you, you look at them and if they fancy you back you say likewise. And then you lead them to your room and slip them somewhere between 30-50 k MGA. Which is, in United States Dollars, approximately nothing. That sounds almost as straightforward and easy as, say, Angeles in the Philippines except with less of a blatant pay-for-sex atmosphere. Yes, you have to pay but it's softer in feel.
Now, I am a soft western guy who likes his creature comforts. But if I am understanding correctly, there is one place where they exist: Nosy Be. If I go to Nosy Be, I might not get as perfect a GFE as some of the other places, but I would have reasonably civilized infrastructure, nice albeit expensive hotels, more or less functioning WiFi, etc. (I am in Mexico right now and I survived two days of non-functioning WiFi, although I would have rather not.).
So I go to Nosy Be, I find a cheap hotel right on the beach, and I enjoy my daily swim. I have our friend Google for translation services. As long as I have WiFi and the swim I am content. If I have girls that's the cherry on top. And it seems like girls should be plentiful and willing.
I do not have a lot of money. My budget would be gone in seconds in the French Riviera. But I have maybe 2-3 times what others are reporting spending. If I lose 30-40 k MGA a few times to scams it's not going to hurt me.
So: What do you guys think of my "soft western approach to Madagascar"? On paper it doesn't sound that much different from Angeles, but many posts in this forum say it's considerably more difficult than Angeles. I have read a lot about the difficulty of transportation and the often high cost of getting around, but it seems to me that if I fly in to Nosy Be and spend my trip in that area it would not be so bad.
So here I am, knock some holes in my plan and let me know the strong and weak points. If I go I will leave a detailed, verbose account with really, really nice quality photographs.This was an interesting post. I'm in a similar situation (as it seems is Triple Darkness): I'm a regular single western guy, not rich not poor. I enjoy visiting and exploring new places and girls, but I wouldn't really say I'm a hardcore adventurer like Neddy who likes going way off the beaten path and living like locals in remote areas. I want a certain level of comfort on holiday.
I've visited Africa several times: Accra and Mombasa. Mombasa is better in terms of infrastructure and prices, and I would agree is a good choice if you're a total Africa newbie. However, I've found that most girls there don't really do it for me. They lack the thick thigh-bangin-booty MTV body shape of west Africans, and the delicate prettiness of Ethiopians. Of course some people find the Kenyan look more attractive, but that's just my taste.
Having browsed the forum for a while, what initially attracted me to Madagascar beyond the beautiful beaches and climate was the seemingly relaxed atmosphere of semipros (like you, I find the overly transactional approach to sex in Asia, well Pattaya / Angeles, somewhat of a turnoff) as well as the idea of taking home a teenage girl every night (legal of course), humping like bunnies, falling asleep together, having another round in the morning, then sending her on her way for 10 US Dollars, which is what I normally spend on lunch.
So I set my phone's GPS location to Nosy Be and fired up Badoo, and was impressed with what I found. As others have said, the ethnic mix on Madagascar has created some truly exotic beauties, and the overall standard seemed far higher than Mombasa. The reply rate was extremely high too, always a good sign, and I've set myself up with a handful of lovelies, though whether or not I'll get round to seeing them, who knows. Good to have in reserve.
I decided to bite the bullet and booked myself a flight to Nosy Be next summer, when I'll spend 6 weeks there. I plan to stay at Ambatoloaka as that's where the action is. Advice on the forum is not to book in advance, but I'm going to reserve my first week at Robinson Crusoe (15 Euro per night with WiFi; already been in touch via email, and we know it's girl-friendly), and spend the week figuring out the lay of the land. It may be that Robinson will be fine; it may be too much of a dump and I'll end up at one of the more upmarket places I saw on booking.com for about 40 euro a night (once I've ascertained whether they're girl-friendly, etc). Ultimately you can only RTFF so much, and you have to dive in. I have schoolboy French and Google translate, and it's often better not to be able to understand the inane blather of hot girls inbetween fucks anyway.
As SouthEaster said, what's the worst that can happen? I have a crap month. Oh well.
If you're planning to head over summer 2020 and you can get a senior membership here at ISG, drop me a PM and we can compare notes.
Member #4673
11-24-19, 17:01
The only negative thing is the lack of blackout curtain.Few years ago when I traveled to Antalaha I bought blackout curtain I think 2 x2 meter super lightweight with 100 percent block light. I always travel with it.
Its not a fabric seems as a synthetic polymer on one side the grey and not sure about the black side. Anyway super thin no weight. I bought it from a street vendor. Then I use a Double-Sided Adhesive Tape that can carry 5 kg even then its just 400 gram.
I enjoy visiting and exploring new places and girls, but I wouldn't really say I'm a hardcore adventurer like Neddy who likes going way off the beaten path and living like locals in remote areas. I want a certain level of comfort on holiday.
I've visited Africa several times: Accra and Mombasa. Mombasa is better in terms of infrastructure and prices, and I would agree is a good choice if you're a total Africa newbie. However, I've found that most girls there don't really do it for me. They lack the thick thigh-bangin-booty MTV body shape of west Africans, and the delicate prettiness of Ethiopians.
Having browsed the forum for a while, what initially attracted me to Madagascar beyond the beautiful beaches and climate was the seemingly relaxed atmosphere of semipros (like you, I find the overly transactional approach to sex in Asia, well Pattaya / Angeles, somewhat of a turnoff) as well as the idea of taking home a teenage girl every night (legal of course), humping like bunnies, falling asleep together, having another round in the morning, then sending her on her way for 10 US Dollars, which is what I normally spend on lunch.
So I set my phone's GPS location to Nosy Be and fired up Badoo, and was impressed with what I found. As others have said, the ethnic mix on Madagascar has created some truly exotic beauties, and the overall standard seemed far higher than Mombasa.I am honored. LOL. But some people have the impression here I sleep in African round huts in small villages all the time. Well you can do that of course. Than your budget will be next to nothing of course. In fact I am planning to do that. But it needs some planning. There you eat what the locals eat. The meal is usually cooked outside over a charcoal cooker. You'll have no running water or electricity. But you might have internet. Sounds crazy? That's the way it is. There your cost of living will be probably 200 usd or less. More like 100 usd. And that includes of course the village girls which knock on your door after nightfall to get some white sperm. A place I selected is the Bijagos. But also here in Western Madagascar or in the North east there is communities only to be accessed by sea.
La Buse.
A good educational book to read is:
The Innocent Anthropologist: Notes from a Mud Hut (English Edition) https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B9CO4YG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3352Db8GP2XYG.
I want to clarify some other misconceptions. You can shag for 10 usd or less in ALL subsaharan African countries. Nothing special really. If you only come to Mada for a cheap shag you'll never enjoy it. Big booties. Don't come to Mada. Yes occasionally there is. Go to Nigeria or Uganda. And ALL sex in subsaharan africa is transactional as well. These girls sleep with you for money. Even they so called nonpros. Even if some people always claim they never pay for sex. Makes me laugh. They pay for food drinks transport jewelry a phone. Give me a break. As my belgian friend put it. Only sun in Africa is FREE. The difference is that you MIGHT get away paying less with an office worker, waitress or any other girl with a regular job. But these are advanced strategies for seniors like NM Expert...
Few years ago when I traveled to Antalaha I bought blackout curtain I think 2 x2 meter super lightweight with 100 percent block light. I always travel with it.
Its not a fabric seems as a synthetic polymer on one side the grey and not sure about the black side. Anyway super thin no weight. I bought it from a street vendor. Then I use a Double-Sided Adhesive Tape that can carry 5 kg even then its just 400 gram.Wouldn't using an eye mask seem somewhat easier? Weighs 4 grams.
Wouldn't using an eye mask seem somewhat easier? Weighs 4 grams.Hahahaha. Actually he's also blinding to cool the room down. Of course. If the afternoon sun is burning down in your room its getting uncomfortable hot in the overpriced concrete bunkers called luxury hotels. That's why I still love the good old colonial style LE Central. 100 years ago they knew how to keep rooms naturally ventilated without A/C.
La Buse
Triple Darknes
11-25-19, 20:36
This was an interesting post. I'm in a similar situation (as it seems is Triple Darkness): I'm a regular single western guy, not rich not poor. I enjoy visiting and exploring new places and girls, but I wouldn't really say I'm a hardcore adventurer like Neddy who likes going way off the beaten path and living like locals in remote areas. I want a certain level of comfort on holiday.
I've visited Africa several times: Accra and Mombasa. Mombasa is better in terms of infrastructure and prices, and I would agree is a good choice if you're a total Africa newbie. However, I've found that most girls there don't really do it for me. They lack the thick thigh-bangin-booty MTV body shape of west Africans, and the delicate prettiness of Ethiopians. Of course some people find the Kenyan look more attractive, but that's just my taste.
Having browsed the forum for a while, what initially attracted me to Madagascar beyond the beautiful beaches and climate was the seemingly relaxed atmosphere of semipros (like you, I find the overly transactional approach to sex in Asia, well Pattaya / Angeles, somewhat of a turnoff) as well as the idea of taking home a teenage girl every night (legal of course), humping like bunnies, falling asleep together, having another round in the morning, then sending her on her way for 10 US Dollars, which is what I normally spend on lunch.
So I set my phone's GPS location to Nosy Be and fired up Badoo, and was impressed with what I found. As others have said, the ethnic mix on Madagascar has created some truly exotic beauties, and the overall standard seemed far higher than Mombasa. The reply rate was extremely high too, always a good sign, and I've set myself up with a handful of lovelies, though whether or not I'll get round to seeing them, who knows. Good to have in reserve.
I decided to bite the bullet and booked myself a flight to Nosy Be next summer, when I'll spend 6 weeks there. I plan to stay at Ambatoloaka as that's where the action is. Advice on the forum is not to book in advance, but I'm going to reserve my first week at Robinson Crusoe (15 Euro per night with WiFi; already been in touch via email, and we know it's girl-friendly), and spend the week figuring out the lay of the land. It may be that Robinson will be fine; it may be too much of a dump and I'll end up at one of the more upmarket places I saw on booking.com for about 40 euro a night (once I've ascertained whether they're girl-friendly, etc). Ultimately you can only RTFF so much, and you have to dive in. I have schoolboy French and Google translate, and it's often better not to be able to understand the inane blather of hot girls inbetween fucks anyway.
As SouthEaster said, what's the worst that can happen? I have a crap month. Oh well.
If you're planning to head over summer 2020 and you can get a senior membership here at ISG, drop me a PM and we can compare notes.Expound on the differences in Infestructure and prices. To me Mombasa is kinda small a lot of people told me that the infestructure is better in Kenya and I've heard stories about prices. West Africans tend to be more muscluar but Luo's and even some Kambas will give West Africans a run for their money in the ass department. I know I'm the only monger to ask but what about the "things to do" situation? If the heat is the same as mombasa I'm going to need reliable Electricity (at least a back up generator) and decent 4 G internet speeds for me to be comfortable. Keep in mind that If I go to Ghana it will be for at least 3 months so that's a long time to be uncomfortable.
I kind of got my sea legs in negotiation but like you mentioned I prefer LT and condom optional how was the prices and the ability to get "nonpro" or at least not hardcore. How sticky are nonpros.
Based on the reports on Mada it seems like unless I get with actual fulltime street walkers I could get super GFE. Speaking of Nairobi I can say that chicks are pretty good at long game meaning they'll give you "freebies" and expect to be the main GF (with all the expenses of that).
What were the Accra Non Pros like? It almost seems like non pro doesn't exist in Mombasa.
Triple Darknes
11-25-19, 20:51
I am honored. LOL. But some people have the impression here I sleep in African round huts in small villages all the time. Well you can do that of course. Than your budget will be next to nothing of course. In fact I am planning to do that. But it needs some planning. There you eat what the locals eat. The meal is usually cooked outside over a charcoal cooker. You'll have no running water or electricity. But you might have internet. Sounds crazy? That's the way it is. There your cost of living will be probably 200 usd or less. More like 100 usd. And that includes of course the village girls which knock on your door after nightfall to get some white sperm. A place I selected is the Bijagos. But also here in Western Madagascar or in the North east there is communities only to be accessed by sea.
La Buse.
A good educational book to read is:
The Innocent Anthropologist: Notes from a Mud Hut (English Edition) https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B9CO4YG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3352Db8GP2XYG.
I want to clarify some other misconceptions. You can shag for 10 usd or less in ALL subsaharan African countries. Nothing special really. If you only come to Mada for a cheap shag you'll never enjoy it. Big booties. Don't come to Mada. Yes occasionally there is. Go to Nigeria or Uganda. And ALL sex in subsaharan africa is transactional as well. These girls sleep with you for money. Even they so called nonpros. Even if some people always claim they never pay for sex. Makes me laugh. They pay for food drinks transport jewelry a phone. Give me a break. As my belgian friend put it. Only sun in Africa is FREE. The difference is that you MIGHT get away paying less with an office worker, waitress or any other girl with a regular job. But these are advanced strategies for seniors like NM Expert...As I said in Africa nothing is what it seems to me Non pro means the opposite that it does in the west meaning you can fuck all night bareback is optional, Blow jobs are professional not just an afterthought I don't have to have anal but it's nice to have. And most importantly although she wants your money she doesn't desparately need your money.
It's the cheap hardcores that are supporting an extended family on you, try to make a home and drive other girls away. The nonpro with a job or other dudes or lives at home is the ones I want.
In the west usually you get a discount for extended use in Africa it's cheaper to short term it, But newbie Trip did Trip up on Dating apps and "freebies" which turned out more expensive than ST. But my problem is literally wanting to fuck all night and wanting to keep going even if I run out of condoms.
Before anyone says anything I don't understand why I never had an STD either. I try to use condoms but and I don't insist on not using them I just never object if they don't object. And unless she's of supermodel quality and I'm extremely horny I can't accept covered blow jobs, That's literally where I cross the line.
Saying what I said Neddy what do you think?
Signed the guy who's open to adventure mongering but not stupid enough to monger in Southern Africa.
Trip.
As I said in Africa nothing is what it seems to me Non pro means the opposite that it does in the west meaning you can fuck all night bareback is optional, Blow jobs are professional not just an afterthought I don't have to have anal but it's nice to have. And most importantly although she wants your money she doesn't desparately need your money.
It's the cheap hardcores that are supporting an extended family on you, try to make a home and drive other girls away. The nonpro with a job or other dudes or lives at home is the ones I want.
In the west usually you get a discount for extended use in Africa it's cheaper to short term it, But newbie Trip did Trip up on Dating apps and "freebies" which turned out more expensive than ST. But my problem is literally wanting to fuck all night and wanting to keep going even if I run out of condoms.
Before anyone says anything I don't understand why I never had an STD either. I try to use condoms but and I don't insist on not using them I just never object if they don't object. And unless she's of supermodel quality and I'm extremely horny I can't accept covered blow jobs, That's literally where I cross the line.
Saying what I said Neddy what do you think?
Signed the guy who's open to adventure mongering but not stupid enough to monger in Southern Africa.
Trip.Trip.
Why would I go to SA. Any BORN SA guy gets the hell out of there. Loads of crime and 25% HIV rate. Its FUCKED. PERIOD. I only do BBBJ in Africa. Why the hell should I put a raincoat. I love bareback. My 80! Years old mate puts it succinctly. Others do ultra marathons at 80! I take TB to Morondave and get laid by legal age? Chics. HAHAHA.
Case closed.
La Buse.
LEGALIZE!
Triple Darknes
11-25-19, 21:10
Trip.
Why would I go to SA. Any BORN SA guy gets the hell out of there. Loads of crime and 25% HIV rate. Its FUCKED. PERIOD. I only do BBBJ in Africa. Why the hell should I put a raincoat. I love bareback. My 80! Years old mate puts it succinctly. Others do ultra marathons at 80! I take TB to Morondave and get laid by legal age? Chics. HAHAHA.
Case closed.
La Buse.
LEGALIZE!I think I'm expressing the sentiments of a lot of mongers even though they don't say it.
What's your top 5 countries now?
I think I'm expressing the sentiments of a lot of mongers even though they don't say it.
What's your top 5 countries now?Now?
Kenya.
Uganda.
Rwanda.
Madagascar.
Weeelll.
Difficult.
Too many.
Triple Darknes
11-25-19, 21:31
Now?
Kenya.
Uganda.
Rwanda.
Madagascar.
Weeelll.
Difficult.
Too many.I'm going to Rwanda but won't have time to monger.
John Clayton
11-25-19, 21:33
Now?
Kenya.
Uganda.
Rwanda.
Madagascar.
Weeelll.
Difficult.
Too many.That's four.
That's four.You need more.
Nigeria.
Sierra Leone.
Liberia.
Guinea Conakry.
Guinea Bissau.
I hope that suffices.
Neddy.
A.
And Angola.
And Mozambique.
And DRC.
Moving up fleuve Congo.
I'm going to Rwanda but won't have time to monger.NO TIME to monger.
Poor. A. LE.
Member #4673
11-26-19, 00:23
Wouldn't using an eye mask seem somewhat easier? Weighs 4 grams.Sure walk half day in your room when sun penetrate strongly.
Thanks for the brilliant idea.
Tata Djemba: I didn't like this club very much, visited it around midnight on a Friday. The club itself is pretty basic. One rectangular concrete square. I got the impression it caters mainly to the poorer classes.
LE Robyv: Visited this club twice, once during the week and once on Friday, starts getting busy from 23:00 onwards. Make sure you visit both floors, upper level and lower level. They have a totally different layout and atmosphere.
Tam Tam: This club is trying to survive in my opinion. Was there at half past twelve on a Friday. Club was nearly empty and the owner was offering free drinks to the girls. The waitress told me it gets busy at 3:00 am.
During the day there are always some SW in bar Les Dromadaires. Also saw some in bar restaurant LE Boeuf. Also saw about 10 SW standing in the courtyard of Hotel Lovasoa and a couple at the entrance of Hotel Pamplemousse.
In the evening a lot of streetworkers active in the the triangle around Hotel Amazone and the main street paralel to the sea. Bad hunting area if you like your women mature. Picked up a sweet 20 year old there. She was tiny about 45 kilos, a beautiful ethiopian like face and fluffy afro curls that bounced everywhere every time she moved her head. 20 k ST, no problem. Later, when she arrived at the hotel she said she preferred staying the night as she was afraid of 'the night pirates'. I laughingly said she could if she was going to be a 'nice girl'. I don't think she got that. She spoke about 100 words french like a lot of the WG's here and I think for that reason Madagascar is not going my favorite destination. I don't like cold calls too much. I like to build some sort of a connection with a girl and with the 'comme moi, comme toi' french (meaning: I like what you like) that's not going to happen. Than I prefer a country like The Gambia where nearly everyone speaks decent english. Having said the was 100 GFE, totally natural and relaxed. While we where having sex she was playing with her clit as if it was an elastic. They can be so convincing. Some times you wonder. Is this real? Or is there a grey zone between the earth and the heavens? In the morning I gave her 30 k She didn't count it, didn't even look at it.
Later that day the owner of Saifee offered to drop me for free at the taxi brousse stop for Mangily. I took the two seats next to the driver for 8000 AR. No seat belt. Nevertheless very glad I did that. We are driving in a small Mazda van but somehow they had managed to squash 7 people in the row behind me + 1 conductor hanging outside.
Many thanks to Pokeris, Southeaster, NMexpert and others for their previous reports on Tulear.
Albert9989
11-29-19, 08:59
Whao, beautiful shape, at least from rear.
Well done TP.
Expound on the differences in Infestructure and prices. To me Mombasa is kinda small a lot of people told me that the infestructure is better in Kenya and I've heard stories about prices. West Africans tend to be more muscluar but Luo's and even some Kambas will give West Africans a run for their money in the ass department. I know I'm the only monger to ask but what about the "things to do" situation? If the heat is the same as mombasa I'm going to need reliable Electricity (at least a back up generator) and decent 4 G internet speeds for me to be comfortable. Keep in mind that If I go to Ghana it will be for at least 3 months so that's a long time to be uncomfortable.
I kind of got my sea legs in negotiation but like you mentioned I prefer LT and condom optional how was the prices and the ability to get "nonpro" or at least not hardcore. How sticky are nonpros.
Based on the reports on Mada it seems like unless I get with actual fulltime street walkers I could get super GFE. Speaking of Nairobi I can say that chicks are pretty good at long game meaning they'll give you "freebies" and expect to be the main GF (with all the expenses of that).
What were the Accra Non Pros like? It almost seems like non pro doesn't exist in Mombasa.You know how the less developed a country is, the more expensive it is to get western-standard stuff there? Accra is less developed than Mombasa, particularly tourist-wise, so a reasonable hotel like Frankies in Accra with backup generator and wifi is $100 per night, whereas you can get similar accommodation on north coast Mombasa for less than half that (at the beach too). The beach is another issue. In Kenya they at least use it, with hotels, restaurants, tourist stuff along the coast. In Accra it's mostly just nothing. Only rubbish and weeds, and a few shacks on the beach. Other things too, such as traffic lights often out of order, streetlights not working, etc, were more common in Accra than Mombasa, at least when I was there.
Accra pros are more expensive too. If you get a decent-looking pro out of Jokers it'll be US $50, twice as much as a girl from Sheba or Casaurini in Mombasa. Both LT (LT seems much more normal in Africa, pretty much default, which I like). I did find a few non-pros during my trips, sometimes online and sometimes in clubs. One of them was really great: met her multiple times over 3 trips, we hung out, went to cinema, restaurants etc (which I paid for of course) but she never asked for anything beyond that. Quite a natural athlete. Beautiful thick, strong thighs and classic full, round, firm, high African bubblebutt, and she could do ten running backflips in a row! Getting a boner thinking about her right now, LOL. Another one was a fvcking disaster. I wrote about her a few years back: after swearing she didn't want anything at all, she tried to hit me up for US $500 and got violent when I refused.
Physically I prefer West Africans. If you watch athletics on telly, it's like the difference between 100 m and 1500 m runners. Personally I prefer the former. Of course there is a degree of overlap and not all girls in Accra are built like Merlene Ottey (if only!) but that's the overall trend. I certainly haven't found girls in Kenya with the kind of thickness and gymnastic strength of the chick I mentioned above and a few others from Ghana. Facially I would rank them about the same, neither countries approaching the prettiness you find regularly in Ethiopia or Eritrea.
Anyway that's enough talk about Ghana and Kenya! I'm looking forward to my trip to Madagascar next summer. Most of the best looking girls in Badoo seem to be in Tana so I might make a trip there depending on how I find Nosy Be. June / July is high season right?
Sure walk half day in your room when sun penetrate strongly.
Thanks for the brilliant idea.OK, OK, I now understand. You don't want to give priority to the sun for penetration.
Tata Djemba: I didn't like this club very much, visited it around midnight on a Friday. The club itself is pretty basic. One rectangular concrete square. I got the impression it caters mainly to the poorer classes.
LE Robyv: Visited this club twice, once during the week and once on Friday, starts getting busy from 23:00 onwards. Make sure you visit both floors, upper level and lower level. They have a totally different layout and atmosphere.
Tam Tam: This club is trying to survive in my opinion. Was there at half past twelve on a Friday. Club was nearly empty and the owner was offering free drinks to the girls. The waitress told me it gets busy at 3:00 am.
During the day there are always some SW in bar Les Dromadaires. Also saw some in bar restaurant LE Boeuf. Also saw about 10 SW standing in the courtyard of Hotel Lovasoa and a couple at the entrance of Hotel Pamplemousse.
In the evening a lot of streetworkers active in the the triangle around Hotel Amazone and the main street paralel to the sea. Bad hunting area if you like your women mature. Picked up a sweet 20 year old there. She was tiny about 45 kilos, a beautiful ethiopian like face and fluffy afro curls that bounced everywhere every time she moved her head. 20 k ST, no problem. Later, when she arrived at the hotel she said she preferred staying the night as she was afraid of 'the night pirates'. I laughingly said she could if she was going to be a 'nice girl'. I don't think she got that. She spoke about 100 words french like a lot of the WG's here and I think for that reason Madagascar is not going my favorite destination. I don't like cold calls too much. I like to build some sort of a connection with a girl and with the 'comme moi, comme toi' french (meaning: I like what you like) that's not going to happen. Than I prefer a country like The Gambia where nearly everyone speaks decent english. Having said the was 100 GFE, totally natural and relaxed. While we where having sex she was playing with her clit as if it was an elastic. They can be so convincing. Some times you wonder. Is this real? Or is there a grey zone between the earth and the heavens? In the morning I gave her 30 k She didn't count it, didn't even look at it.
Later that day the owner of Saifee offered to drop me for free at the taxi brousse stop for Mangily. I took the two seats next to the driver for 8000 AR. No seat belt. Nevertheless very glad I did that. We are driving in a small Mazda van but somehow they had managed to squash 7 people in the row behind me + 1 conductor hanging outside.
Many thanks to Pokeris, Southeaster, NMexpert and others for their previous reports on Tulear.Very good mission Update. Ya the clubs. I was there in 2015 when Tata Dzombe opened. Yes it's a hole in the wall gasy disco. Not for everyone.
RobyV seems to take alle business now. The famous and much loved Zsa Zsa closed its door forever. RIP. Tam Tam is suffering naturally.
You're the first guy I hear complaining about GF sex. The chica speaks only 100 words french. Be happy. Because a college or University graduate with fluent French won't do it for 30k. These are girls from La Brousse. Total natural. Praise the lord man.. That such a place on earth still exists...
You miss conversation? Go to Kenya. Gambia? Thats the place you can have the worst overpaid sex in subsaharan Africa. But you can converse with the 2000 dal hooker in flawless English.. hahahaha....
Go figure.
La Buse.
Who escaped the stifling hot lowlands to Antsirabe. Where I ll check some 100% gasy boites nobody ever heard about.
Triple Darknes
11-29-19, 16:03
You know how the less developed a country is, the more expensive it is to get western-standard stuff there? Accra is less developed than Mombasa, particularly tourist-wise, so a reasonable hotel like Frankies in Accra with backup generator and wifi is $100 per night, whereas you can get similar accommodation on north coast Mombasa for less than half that (at the beach too). The beach is another issue. In Kenya they at least use it, with hotels, restaurants, tourist stuff along the coast. In Accra it's mostly just nothing. Only rubbish and weeds, and a few shacks on the beach. Other things too, such as traffic lights often out of order, streetlights not working, etc, were more common in Accra than Mombasa, at least when I was there.
Accra pros are more expensive too. If you get a decent-looking pro out of Jokers it'll be US $50, twice as much as a girl from Sheba or Casaurini in Mombasa. Both LT (LT seems much more normal in Africa, pretty much default, which I like). I did find a few non-pros during my trips, sometimes online and sometimes in clubs. One of them was really great: met her multiple times over 3 trips, we hung out, went to cinema, restaurants etc (which I paid for of course) but she never asked for anything beyond that. Quite a natural athlete. Beautiful thick, strong thighs and classic full, round, firm, high African bubblebutt, and she could do ten running backflips in a row! Getting a boner thinking about her right now, LOL. Another one was a fvcking disaster. I wrote about her a few years back: after swearing she didn't want anything at all, she tried to hit me up for US $500 and got violent when I refused.
Physically I prefer West Africans. If you watch athletics on telly, it's like the difference between 100 m and 1500 m runners. Personally I prefer the former. Of course there is a degree of overlap and not all girls in Accra are built like Merlene Ottey (if only!) but that's the overall trend. I certainly haven't found girls in Kenya with the kind of thickness and gymnastic strength of the chick I mentioned above and a few others from Ghana. Facially I would rank them about the same, neither countries approaching the prettiness you find regularly in Ethiopia or Eritrea.
Anyway that's enough talk about Ghana and Kenya! I'm looking forward to my trip to Madagascar next summer. Most of the best looking girls in Badoo seem to be in Tana so I might make a trip there depending on how I find Nosy Be. June / July is high season right?Thanks for the response.
La Buse.
Who escaped the stifling hot lowlands to Antsirabe. Where I ll check some 100% gasy boites nobody ever heard about.Curious about antsirabe and Fianarantsoa. its on my list for February trip. Strange its not much reports on ISG about this two cities with big population!! Will be interesting to read what you will find at antsirabe.
Member #4673
11-29-19, 17:32
Antsirabe. Where I ll check some 100% gasy boites nobody ever heard about.For cheap hotel but good value with balcony try "Nouveau Synchro".
https://goo.gl/maps/7MyXPHPmaMzxNaxe6
Club "VAKI Night" seems to be the leading. https://goo.gl/maps/Jk3tGzdzTdAgydmv7.
Tray Mirana restaurant also used as bakery coffee shop and cheese heaven https://goo.gl/maps/VRsD37tGhH9mEQBi9.
For cheap hotel but good value with balcony try "Nouveau Synchro".
https://goo.gl/maps/7MyXPHPmaMzxNaxe6
Club "VAKI Night" seems to be the leading. https://goo.gl/maps/Jk3tGzdzTdAgydmv7.
Tray Mirana restaurant also used as bakery coffee shop and cheese heaven https://goo.gl/maps/VRsD37tGhH9mEQBi9.Thanks. I had coffee and cake in Mirana today. Good food too in the resto.
La Buse.
The Tall Man
11-29-19, 23:10
Tata Djemba: I didn't like this club very much, visited it around midnight on a Friday. The club itself is pretty basic. One rectangular concrete square. I got the impression it caters mainly to the poorer classes.
LE Robyv: Visited this club twice, once during the week and once on Friday, starts getting busy from 23:00 onwards. Make sure you visit both floors, upper level and lower level. They have a totally different layout and atmosphere.
Tam Tam: This club is trying to survive in my opinion. Was there at half past twelve on a Friday. Club was nearly empty and the owner was offering free drinks to the girls. The waitress told me it gets busy at 3:00 am.
During the day there are always some SW in bar Les Dromadaires. Also saw some in bar restaurant LE Boeuf. Also saw about 10 SW standing in the courtyard of Hotel Lovasoa and a couple at the entrance of Hotel Pamplemousse.Wow love the photo of the girl! Perfect body for my taste.
The Tall Man.
GabrielSilva
11-30-19, 04:10
Thanks for the response.June and July are cooler and might be a bit rainy in the capital Antanarivo. Concerning the Island of Nosy Be. Warmer than Tana but I personally Think NOSY is best by September-November and that also applies for the capital. Just my five cents! Concerning the Beauty of the African women it varies very much from the Islands of Cape Vert to Angola or Mozambique. But you are absolutely right about the beauty of the Eritreans and Ethiopians. But when it comes to the attitude it may leave a bit to be desired. And as a choice Madagascar is fine. Mostly in terms of natural Beauty both of the scenic views and the natural born Beauty of its ladies. And most important. Treat them with respect! Greetings from Lisbon.
Finally I cut my betsileo kitten loose. Fortunately Cotisse runs 2 busses next morning to Tana. So I went over to book to Antsirabe. Final notes on Morondave. Stay a month and you can unlock paradise. Don't come for 5 days. You'll just be exhausted. Now in November its stifling hot. Well no difference. Its always stifling hot. But the difference is now the temperature hardly drops at night. Indoors its unbearable humid unless you have the ceiling fan run at full speed. Best time where its cool at night is April to September.
Cotisse departs at 0530. The trip takes around ten hours to Antsirabe.
What a difference. Here at almost 1400 meters pleasantly cool at night. First time since a month I sleep without a ceiling fan. Here the temperature drops to 15 at night.
I checked in in the time honoured Diamant Hotel. The advantage. The premier hooker discoteque Tahiti is part of the complex. The hotel is old like 1970's style. You have three wings. I booked the most expensive room for 60 k. You can go as low as 30 k. But then you have the noise of Tahiti. No thanks. The other advantage is you have a big gym with a lot of cardio machines for workout as well as an indoor swimming pool. The rooms are a bit run down but spacious and cool. The plumbing is a bit run down.
Antsirabe. If you love fin de siecle architecture. Have a look at Hotel de Thermes. Official its a 3* Hotel built in 1896. I looked at the medium priced suites. WTF. In December low season starts and you can get the suites for around 127k ar.
If you find a perfect 10 in Tana and you want to splurge, spend a couple of days in Hotel de Thermes. You can use Premier Classe to ride in style.
The city is extremely pleasant. Not crazy traffic like Tana. The only town where there is real Rikschas pulled by barefooted Malgache. Cyclopousse is 2000 ar.
Eateries. I found a japanese Ramen Resto. As well. Woukd you believe it. A GREEK resto. So I went to dine Moussaka. Turns out that until Ratsiraka took over there were 2000 greeks living in Madagascar.
After dinner I went to check the chicas. There is a about 20 merina SWs plying the opposite roadside of Diamant. There were a few doables. Merinas can be stunners. But most of them are short and tend to get a fat ass very quickly.
After I had a quick look at Tahiti. Again time warp. Like Queens in Tamatave. 80s and 90s Disco music was on. But at around 2200 hrs the place is empty except some expired hookers started to filter in.
I called it an early night as I hv to get climatized going from 40C max in the coastal plains to 15C..
Slept like a log.
La Buse
Who is amazed by the number of churches here... Lutherans Catholics you name they got it. And not to forget an original greek-orthodox village pope in black garb...
If you plan to go, consider its not an anglophil country. Learn French. . or stay back home.
And it's not a place with bars and mamasans where you can shop like in a supermarket. It's a big savannah to hunt your prey and separate it from the heard before you can catch her.
You like Angeles City? Stay there. Mada is not for you.
GabrielSilva
11-30-19, 06:13
Good report. You took the plunge. But as I pointed out previously. Mada is for advanced Africa mongers. You're just facing the steeper learning curve. Better stick to Kenya next time. About the pousse. Some try to overcharge. I don't care. Never argue with anybody for 50 cents give or take. Bad karma. Taxidrivers all over the world are the same. Same with the girls. I can tell you stories from Mtwapa.... Just pay as you did. That's part of your training fees. There's always some assholes. In Africa just see the witch doctor. He'll put a curse on him all right. I did that with a thieving girl once...
La Buse.
January should be ok. There can be some days of heavy rain and if you're very unlucky you'll experience a passing cyclone.
check this page for updates:
https://www.mtotec.com/page-analyseFirst of all my congratulations for your qualities as a mentor despite the fact of a slight and disturbing reaction of preconceited prejudice against your vision of women and taxi drivers in general.
Concerning your protege. I would say that he made me laugh enormously. What a sense of humour. Both the sketch with his regular GF visiting her sister and later at the Hotel with the chicks and the unbeatable scene with the pousse pousse. That one took the cake! I can barely imagine the scene of a pousse pousse driver chasing a VAZHA for the overate of some frugal 3. 000 Ariary. That should be taken as a reference for any future stand up comedian Contest. Even by Madagascar's terms and cost of living! You made my day. Keep it up!
Member #4673
11-30-19, 06:27
Cyclopousse is 2000 ar.Its 500 AR for up to 1 km for French speakers.
Member #4673
11-30-19, 07:04
. Cyclopousse is 2000 ar. Let me tell you how price is determine in Mada but also in general.
1. If there is no expense such as fuel or vehicle depreciation then the main factor is time. So for short ride 500 is the price in Mada for PusPus including Toliara. Ansirabe has Also Runner based puspus as well as cyclo but both are based on TIME.
2. The other pricing scheme is according to how the puspus driver perceive your ability to pay regardless of the real price. So if you don't know and ask how much you will be told 2 k or more.
To keep the story short for non speaking guys the best approach is to say one word. 500. Then the driver will ask where to? For me its easy as I can reply but if you can't speak just say again 500 and give him the name of the place. If he refuse move to other driver. Of Course only stop drivers that on the move and never drivers that park as those are waiting for easy money.
Same story in Toliara, Price is 500 up to 1-2 km. Younger the driver cheaper the price they ask. In Tana, same principle apply to Taxi always stop taxi that are in the move, never the one that park. You tell him this.
1. 30 k.
2. "where to"? He will reply.
3. You pull 30 k and say Ivato.
4. he will say: no give me 35 k".
5. show him the notes and repeat 30 k.
6. Since its a moving taxi probably some cars behind are using the horn as he block the road so he will quickly tell you come in.
La Brousse.
Never tell a girl she is from the Brousse even if its true, She will cry and extremely offended. But if a higher class person next to her will hear it he will fall on the floor from laughing and immediately like you. They hate the Brousse girls as they often are bad workers in the hotels, kitchen etc.
Finally I cut my betsileo kitten loose. Fortunately Cotisse runs 2 busses next morning to Tana. So I went over to book to Antsirabe. Final notes on Morondave. Stay a month and you can unlock paradise. Don't come for 5 days. You'll just be exhausted. Now in November its stifling hot. Well no difference. Its always stifling hot. But the difference is now the temperature hardly drops at night. Indoors its unbearable humid unless you have the ceiling fan run at full speed. Best time where its cool at night is April to September....What kind of paradise you are talking about I not understand? As I follow your reports I read you find just 3-4 diffrent girls in one month here. So what is a point to stay 1 month here if its ghost town. What kind of advantages somebody will get here to wasting 1 month almost without girls in the heat instead to come 2-4 days and if not like just move on!!
What kind of paradise you are talking about I not understand? As I follow your reports I read you find just 3-4 diffrent girls in one month here. So what is a point to stay 1 month here if its ghost town. What kind of advantages somebody will get here to wasting 1 month almost without girls in the heat instead to come 2-4 days and if not like just move on!!
Did I say it's a ghost town? You can shag more than 4 girls of course. I wanted to take off after 3 Weeks. But then I met my super hot Betsileo chica. Why should I change? If your goal is to shag as many girls in a 90 days period. Stay in Nosy Be. I am discriminate. If I find something which satisfies me I keep it for a few days. I am not here for a sex-a-thon. I leave that to tourists who fly in for 2 weeks. You can shag loads of girls. I wrote. There's loads of them walking in pairs in the evening. There is only a problem with most of them. If you come to Morondave you'll know what I am talking about.
4 days... sure if you want to kill yourself spending 13 hours in Cotisse at 40C outside temperature without AC.... It takes you 2 weeks to climatize...
I don't know if you like Morondave... I liked it. Its the most laid back town in Mada. Good vibez. Good party. Wild vezo fishing girls. Everybody smokes weed here. maaan.
But I love Madagascar... I wrote many times. You'll suffer. If you don't like to suffer for pussy. As Amadeuss put it stay in Angeles City. Madagascar is for the adventure monger. I don't care if I shag 30 girls a month or 4....
La Buse.
Who has no intention to see a malgache prison from inside. So. go figure... LOL
Did I say it's a ghost town? You can shag more than 4 girls of course. But one week I spent with my hot Betsileo chica. Why should I change? If your goal is to shag as many girls in a 90 days period. Stay in Nosy Be. I am discriminate. If I find something which satisfies me I keep it for a few days. I am not here for a sex-a-thon. I leave that to tourists who fly in for 2 weeks. You can shag loads of girls. I wrote. There's loads of them walking in pairs in the evening. There is only a problem with most of them. If you come to Morondave you'll know what I am talking about.
4 days... sure if you want to kill yourself spending 13 hours in Cotisse at 40C outside temperature without AC....
I don't know if you like Morondave... I liked it. Its the most laid back town in Mada. Good vibez. Good party. Wild vezo fishing girls.
But I love Madagascar... I wrote many times. You'll suffer. If you don't like to suffer for pussy. As Amadeuss put it stay in Angeles City. Madagascar is for the adventure monger. I don't care if I shag 30 girls a month or 4....
La Buse.
Who has no intention to see a malgache prison from inside. So. go figure... LOLYou not need to advice me which country I need to go and told I will suffer at madagascar it not my first time here. The question was why advice somebody to go for 1 month and stay in unbearable heat as you said to unlock some mysterious paradise. Maybe is better to kill yourself 13 hours at cottise and after move on if you not like a place instead killing yourself 1 month for waiting the paradise which probably will not happen if it not happen in 2-4 days already.
GabrielSilva
11-30-19, 12:29
Neddy 69 I have made a couple of attempts in enlightening you about your total misconception of what FADY really means, but for some reason those comments did not get through, you have been giving the forum readers a total distorted reality of what you perceive to be the reluctance of the BETSILEO women or girls in performing ORAL SEX because of that being FADY or TABOO. As I said I made two long essays upon that matter and I do not have patience right now to write a third one. But just let me tell you that your sources of information are absolutely devastating in terms of factual reality. If you wish I can develop this matter next time. Since I have not slept yet and it is already broad day light in Lisbon.
You not need to advice me which country I need to go and told I will suffer at madagascar it not my first time here. The question was why advice somebody to go for 1 month and stay in unbearable heat as you said to unlock some mysterious paradise. Maybe is better to kill yourself 13 hours at cottise and after move on if you not like a place instead killing yourself 1 month for waiting the paradise which probably will not happen if it not happen in 2-4 days already.My advice was. Stay a couple of weeks or don't come at all. And everybodys definition of paradise is different. Some people like Diego. Some not. But after a week if you've shown your face you'll have plenty of chics. Again. This is not Nosy Be. But if you go in February you'll find out if you like the climate.
La Buse.
Curious about antsirabe and Fianarantsoa. its on my list for February trip. Strange its not much reports on ISG about this two cities with big population!! Will be interesting to read what you will find at antsirabe.I enjoy Antsirabe. In Africa, I always look for places where the Europeans in colonial times chose to locate their settlements. Antsirabe is such a place. As for girls: women can be found everywhere. Anyone who has to ask about that is clueless. Just start talking to any female that catches your eye.
Fiana is supposed to be a stronghold of fundamentalist Christian missionaries. I don't know about that, but it was the only place in the country where people walked up to me in the street and started talking to me in English. Engage in conversation long enough, and they invite you to their church.
I enjoy Antsirabe. In Africa, I always look for places where the Europeans in colonial times chose to locate their settlements. Antsirabe is such a place. As for girls: women can be found everywhere. Anyone who has to ask about that is clueless. Just start talking to any female that catches your eye.
Fiana is supposed to be a stronghold of fundamentalist Christian missionaries. I don't know about that, but it was the only place in the country where people walked up to me in the street and started talking to me in English. Engage in conversation long enough, and they invite you to their church.Thanks for some update!! I believe womens can be found everywhere at mada, but the more biggest cities you visit the bigger chance you get to find something suits you! I imagine third biggest city with population like antsirabe should have plenty of girls for everyone taste. For me antsirabe sounds good even I wasnt here yet. Close from tana, pleasant climate.
Neddy 69 I have made a couple of attempts in enlightening you about your total misconception of what FADY really means, but for some reason those comments did not get through, you have been giving the forum readers a total distorted reality of what you perceive to be the reluctance of the BETSILEO women or girls in performing ORAL SEX because of that being FADY or TABOO. As I said I made two long essays upon that matter and I do not have patience right now to write a third one. But just let me tell you that your sources of information are absolutely devastating in terms of factual reality. If you wish I can develop this matter next time. Since I have not slept yet and it is already broad day light in Lisbon.Oohh. An expert on Fady. Yes I know what fady is. And would you believe? The Betsileo girl told me for her its fady to give Blow Job. What misconception are you talking about? Its not distorted. Its reality. Maybe you tell her that her tribe supposed to give head? LOL!
There is all kinds of fady or taboos... And not giving head is one of them. Read the Bradt. there is quite a good article on that. Not of course about BJs. LOL.
When have you made your "expert" statement? I am not aware that we ever communicated?
La Buse.
Enlighten us. So I can next time tell my girl she supposed to give head..... Maybe only on the first friday of the month....
Let me tell you how price is determine in Mada but also in general.
1. If there is no expense such as fuel or vehicle depreciation then the main factor is time. So for short ride 500 is the price in Mada for PusPus including Toliara. Ansirabe has Also Runner based puspus as well as cyclo but both are based on TIME.
2. The other pricing scheme is according to how the puspus driver perceive your ability to pay regardless of the real price. So if you don't know and ask how much you will be told 2 k or more.
To keep the story short for non speaking guys the best approach is to say one word. 500. Then the driver will ask where to? For me its easy as I can reply but if you can't speak just say again 500 and give him the name of the place. If he refuse move to other driver. Of Course only stop drivers that on the move and never drivers that park as those are waiting for easy money.
Same story in Toliara, Price is 500 up to 1-2 km. Younger the driver cheaper the price they ask. In Tana, same principle apply to Taxi always stop taxi that are in the move, never the one that park. You tell him this.
1. 30 k.
2. "where to"? He will reply.
3. You pull 30 k and say Ivato.
4. he will say: no give me 35 k".
5. show him the notes and repeat 30 k.
6. Since its a moving taxi probably some cars behind are using the horn as he block the road so he will quickly tell you come in.
La Brousse.
Never tell a girl she is from the Brousse even if its true, She will cry and extremely offended. But if a higher class person next to her will hear it he will fall on the floor from laughing and immediately like you. They hate the Brousse girls as they often are bad workers in the hotels, kitchen etc.I love NM Expert. I bow my hat to the expert on Pousse Prices. I speak french too. And the price is 1000 during day in Morondave. At night its 2000 and for bigger distances like from Karafun to Insomnia at night its 3000. And yes. I had 2 local chicas in the pousse.
In Antsirabe its 2000 for cyclopusse during day. Any distance. At night 3000.
I don't know. Maybe your prices are from another country. Or 15 years ago.
In Tamatave its 1000 for cyclo pousse. Bajaj daytariff 2000. Late night there is only Bajaj. And at night the tariff is per person. So 3 people its 6000 to Pandora.
So why should I haggle about 25 or 50 cents... I am not from a country in the ME....
Why should I tell a girl she's from La Brousse. Its offensive. And I respect all chicas. Sophisticated or not.
La Buse.
Who ll find out about the late night tariffs in Antsirabe soon.
Its Disco time. First I went to Razafimamonjy for a drop dead gorgeous bol reenvers and a Gold pression!. Probably the best totally gasy resto in town. Than it's off to be'Art Haingo a total gasy warmup place THB PM sets you back 3000 AR. Not a pickup joint but nice atmosphere. Full of gasy people enjoying themselves. Later around 2230 some white NGO do gooders / Peace corps filter in (yuck).
2300 Time to move to the famed Vaki night disco. Well. People slowly start to filter in. Its a gasy sausage fest with some doable merinas. But make no mistake. These are all cliques. So me and two chinese and a lonesome white monger were hanging out staring at the dance floors. Nothing really hot catches my eye anyway. A few possibles but no way. All with their gasy BFs / cliques. Pickup chance 1%.
Time to move back to Tahiti at 0000.
In fact I was a nice guy to the pousse guys. Did it pay off. NO. First I negotiated 3000 night rate. I gave 4000. The guy came up with the no change scam. Who gives a f. K. Then the next cheeky bastard who took me me to Vaki. I gave him 5000. He said he's going to wait (and there's the catch!) Of course he waits. Asshole. I said I don't give a. F. k. Again after I went back to Tahiti I used him again. BAD mistake. On arrival he hit me for 10.000 AR for "waiting time"?!#@*
You have following possibilities:
You give him a good smack right in his face which probably lands you in jail.
You pay and show him the middle finger.
That's what I did. Its the princely sum of 2. 50 euros
So you see. It happens to everyone.
Do I care. Not in the slightest. It was my fault. I could have used one of the zillion other pousse drivers. Nothing he could do about.
Case closed.
Tahiti.
As I said. 70's style disco. I entered. Ever rode in a Ghost train ? Expired fat ass hookers try to sell their wares. A few white mongers with equally expired putes shake their ass on their dance floor. An absolute sorry ass place. Did I enjoy myself?
You bet. I ordered up Dalvis Salama and shaked my ass. The sharks were coming closer and closer. LOL. There were exactly 3 hot chicas. One tiny hot sweet merina..Of course with gasy BF. And 2 hot chicas who scrounged drinks of another vazaha..But obviously no WGs?!. I smiled they smiled. Obviously not in need of funds.
Actually the best looking ones were the SWs opposite Diamant.
Sayonara.
La Buse
Who thinks Antsirabe is good for only one thing..As a stage en route to Tulear.
Albert9989
12-01-19, 01:24
Its Disco time. First I went to Razafimamonjy for a drop dead gorgeous bol reenvers and a Gold pression!. Probably the best totally gasy resto in town. Than it's off to be'Art Haingo a total gasy warmup place THB PM sets you back 3000 AR. Not a pickup joint but nice atmosphere. Full of gasy people enjoying themselves. Later around 2230 some white NGO do gooders / Peace corps filter in (yuck).
........................
La Buse
Who thinks Antsirabe is good for only one thing..As a stage en route to Tulear.Not easy everywhere. May be you could stay longer?
But next, there is Fiana on the road to Tulear? To be checked too may be.
I remember that I had one quite cute even in Isalo, about mid way between Fiana and Tulear. Where I spent two nights in Ranohira, stayed Chez Alice, nice place and good food, but had the help of my trek guide to meet her, may be the only one there?? And she was not happy with 20 k if I remember well.
In fact I was a nice guy to the pousse guys. Did it pay off. NO. First I negotiated 3000 night rate. I gave 4000.
You have following possibilities.
Antsirabe ...As a stage en route to Tulear.Near life and death struggles over 30 cents with barefoot bicycle taxi kid! What amazing adventures!
From Morondava to Tulear: sit in a cargo van (I. E. Taxi brousse) backtracked 10 hours all the way to Antisarabe, then another all-day cargo van ride back south to Tulear.
What, no boutres, runs down the west coast? You know, one of those adventure like things to do.
https://www.pirogue-madagascar.com/philosophie/
Not easy everywhere. May be you could stay longer?
But next, there is Fiana on the road to Tulear? To be checked too may be.
I remember that I had one quite cute even in Isalo, about mid way between Fiana and Tulear. Where I spent two nights in Ranohira, stayed Chez Alice, nice place and good food, but had the help of my trek guide to meet her, may be the only one there?? And she was not happy with 20 k if I remember well.Albert. Of course you can get laid. Depends how much you're willing to lower your standard. The other problem is the street walkers are pretty much packed so the body is hidden. If you take one. Take them around 1930 hours not midnight. They're all packed up. Its freezing cold 15C cold. I've seen more hot girls in one night in Morondave than in Antsirabe in 3 days. Here IMHO its nonpro day game. Most merinas are short fat ass. With 25 years they all fall apart. Must be the fast food in Pizza La Gastronomy.
Did I see some hot chics. Absolutely. Merinas can be stunners. Look at the model catalogues in Tana. All merinas. I saw a few hot milfs strolling around with their toddlers. Some have really beautiful fine facial features.
Can you score? Absolutely. But IMHO its going to be tough going.
First of all. They are more conservative. Is it the influence of the missionaries? Antsirabe was founded by Norwegian! Missionaries in 1866.
Or is it that the merina or hova are nobility ruling over Madagascar?
Probably it pays here to cultivate a gasy man who can pull Merinas.
La Buse.
Who is unwilling to invest the time for now and is longing for the flesh pots of Tulear.
Muzungufotsy
12-02-19, 04:08
In fact I was a nice guy to the pousse guys. Did it pay off. NO. First I negotiated 3000 night rate. I gave 4000. The guy came up with the no change scam. Who gives a f. K. Then the next cheeky bastard who took me me to Vaki. I gave him 5000. He said he's going to wait (and there's the catch!) Of course he waits. Asshole. I said I don't give a. F. k. Again after I went back to Tahiti I used him again. BAD mistake. On arrival he hit me for 10.000 AR for "waiting time"?!#@*
You have following possibilities:
You give him a good smack right in his face which probably lands you in jail.
You pay and show him the middle finger.
That's what I did. Its the princely sum of 2. 50 euros
Who thinks Antsirabe is good for only one thing..As a stage en route to Tulear.You paid 2 times more for a pousse than for a regular taxi. That's ridiculous. You are getting weak my friend and then you even compare to euros like newbies do. So of course this pousse will keep threatening the next scared vazaha with ridiculous amount. Well done indeed.
Member #4673
12-02-19, 05:17
You paid 2 times more for a pousse than for a regular taxi. That's ridiculous. You are getting weak my friend and then you even compare to euros like newbies do. So of course this pousse will keep threatening the next scared vazaha with ridiculous amount. Well done indeed.Don't be hard on him, he has no idea about puspus price in Mada. However, I really enjoy when he post his puspus price recommendation. Its make my day can't stop laugh.
Muzungufotsy
12-02-19, 07:10
Not easy everywhere. May be you could stay longer?
But next, there is Fiana on the road to Tulear? To be checked too may be.
I remember that I had one quite cute even in Isalo, about mid way between Fiana and Tulear. Where I spent two nights in Ranohira, stayed Chez Alice, nice place and good food, but had the help of my trek guide to meet her, may be the only one there?? And she was not happy with 20 k if I remember well.Antsirabe and Fianar are good if you are looking for a virgin Merina or Betsileo girl to marry you. For everything else it s useless. Of course some guys will tell you they had the best shag of their life or they found a gem in the ugly SWs. That's BS. Just skip it Albert.
I wanted to book my ticket out of this town. But then again. Things turned out different. That's why its called adventure. I went again to the same resto. Good food. Big draft. Then I went to another total gasy karaoke joint. I ordered a THB PM and voila. In front of me. Two unattached gasy chicas. One cotiere with dark features and nice boobs and a tiny Imerina chica with beautiful face nice ass and slim. I was smiling. They were smiling. Less than a minute later I sat on their table. In these gasy joints there's always some girls for takeout apparently. The locals pay around 15.000 AR for pussy. We had fun they were singing karaoke. Then my chica wanted to know if she can join me at my hotel. One drunk gasy A. LE tried to interject. Get off my back.
Time to move back to my hotel with my prey. I spent a sweet night. Got a good BBBJ with including soft licking of my balls. I had a good DATY which send her over the edge.
A night well spent. In the morning I slipped 40.000 AR in her pocket. A real sweetie pie.
A note to the pousse drivers in Antsirabe. This is the worst lot I came across in Madagascar. There is thousands of them. At daytime they accept the standard fare of 2000 without batting an eylid. Although watch out for the waiting game again. Always be clear and say no. After nightfall they turn into zombies. When I took the pousse back to Diamant I told the guy loud and clear 3000 AR. When we arrived a gave him 3000 which he accepted. When I started to move away he started shouting dix mille. Ya sure. Fat chance. I just ignored him and he fucked off. Last time it was a different story as this guy caught me for "waiting time". Never again. Why should he wait. There is 100's of pousse drivers in the night. A pousse driver is almost on the bottom of the food chain. Only a street beggar is below him. These are poor people who most of the time don't even own the pousse. They have to pay a fixed rental fee. So I don't blame them to pull a fast one on the vazaha. Always make sure you have enough 2000 and 1000ar notes in your pocket!
As to this naysayer who contributed nothing of value for years on the Madagascar forum. Yes. I write how it is. I just could have omitted having overpaid. Who gives a rats ass. If I feel I donate 10.000 AR to a pousse driver it's none of your business. I consider it a charitable contribution. In Africa you're a walking ATM as vazaha / obroni / muzungu / Oyibo / toubab.
La Buse
Who thinks to extend his stay and look for more Imerina models.
Member #4673
12-02-19, 07:35
A note to the pousse drivers in Antsirabe. This is the worst lot I came across in Madagascar..Antsirabe is a tourist city so to get it for 500 you need some experience I agree.
You next destination is Toliara the puspus price there is 500 even for beginners.
Near life and death struggles over 30 cents with barefoot bicycle taxi kid! What amazing adventures!
From Morondava to Tulear: sit in a cargo van (I. E. Taxi brousse) backtracked 10 hours all the way to Antisarabe, then another all-day cargo van ride back south to Tulear.
What, no boutres, runs down the west coast? You know, one of those adventure like things to do.
https://www.pirogue-madagascar.com/philosophie/I leave that to the true adventurers. Like you. I considered it. But. Firstly I also like my creature comforts. And its easier to move by boutre from South to North as you know. And its the wrong time of the year as its already start of the rainy season. And while we're at it. I haven't heard of any amazing adventures of yours as of late. And if you backtracked that sounds like bad planning. Right now the Camion Brousse goes up to Manja. When the river is flooded thats it. You backtrack....LOL. Like a mate of mine. He did Fort Dauphin to Tulear in the rainy season by Camion brousse. It took him 3. 5 weeks. He had to walk days on end besides the camion to lighten the load. Otherwise they would get stuck again. Only DRC is worse.
La Buse.
Who prefers the longer route to Tulear. Like 1000 kms...
Stayed 2 nights in La Bella Donna 100 k for a room in the back 120 k for a room straight at the beach. Good service levels. Nice property. I don't like though how they try to flog you their own 'excursions' and at the same time try to scare you away from competitors by claiming that they are scammers. They will also propose you their own 'house' masseuse on the beach for 30 k. At the end of my stay she was offering me a massage for 10 k instead of the proposed 30 k.
The massage girls wasn't really what I wanted so in the evening I decided to hit the clubs as I had read here that club Blu was the place to be. Was a bit of a disappointment. Mangily is a small place and the Blu is a village club with many 14-15 year olds. Ordered a beer and got talking with 2 local women. Took one of them with me but she was actually a bit too heavy for my liking. Next day I had to checkout from La Bella Donna as they where sold out. Ended up at Chez Daniel. Rooms 30 k, actually a hut with a bucket and a hole in the floor to shower with a communal toilet outside. No electricity no running water. At night they provide you with a bulb light connected to a battery.
For my next leg I needed to go to the taxi brousse station in Tulear. I found out that the locals pay 3000 for TB or shared Babaj from Mangily to Tulear or vice versa. That is the real price.
When you walk at night on the beach in Mangily and you hear waves and see the hundreds of stars in the sky you realise Mangily is a special place. You should do that with a woman and there is a chance you will not find one here (you like). So better prepare yourself and come with a girl from Tulear.
Albert9989
12-03-19, 01:08
When you walk at night on the beach in Mangily and you hear waves and see the hundreds of stars in the sky you realise Mangily is a special place. Totally agreed!
Member #4673
12-03-19, 02:32
shared Babaj from Mangily to Tulear or vice versa. That is the real price.Its take time to find out the real price for Babaj / Taxi / PusPus for beginners but once you figure it out you will always refuse to pay more. If you ready to accept a dual pricing scheme you will encourage some sort of corruption which can be expanded further.
For Mangily, I took a girl from Toliara and we both didn't like the place. No stable Electricity? No thanks.
and there is a chance you will not find one here (you like).
So better prepare yourself and come with a girl from Tulear.
Thanks for nice report!! Agree mangily girls is not good looking, better take a girl from toliara.
Stayed 2 nights in La Bella Donna 100 k for a room in the back 120 k for a room straight at the beach. Good service levels. Nice property. I don't like though how they try to flog you their own 'excursions' and at the same time try to scare you away from competitors by claiming that they are scammers. They will also propose you their own 'house' masseuse on the beach for 30 k. At the end of my stay she was offering me a massage for 10 k instead of the proposed 30 k.
The massage girls wasn't really what I wanted so in the evening I decided to hit the clubs as I had read here that club Blu was the place to be. Was a bit of a disappointment. Mangily is a small place and the Blu is a village club with many 14-15 year olds. Ordered a beer and got talking with 2 local women. Took one of them with me but she was actually a bit too heavy for my liking. Next day I had to checkout from La Bella Donna as they where sold out. Ended up at Chez Daniel. Rooms 30 k, actually a hut with a bucket and a hole in the floor to shower with a communal toilet outside. No electricity no running water. At night they provide you with a bulb light connected to a battery.
For my next leg I needed to go to the taxi brousse station in Tulear. I found out that the locals pay 3000 for TB or shared Babaj from Mangily to Tulear or vice versa. That is the real price.
When you walk at night on the beach in Mangily and you hear waves and see the hundreds of stars in the sky you realise Mangily is a special place. You should do that with a woman and there is a chance you will not find one here (you like). So better prepare yourself and come with a girl from Tulear.Don't listen to the naysayers. I spent 2 months in Mangily in 2015. I've never seen a more beautiful southern Star night sky in my life as there is zero light and other pollution. I always shagged the same 10 massage girls. I stayed at Chez Suzie. Spacious Bungalows for 400.000 AR a month. No running water no electricity. I got the worst shits like three weeks on end from the so called good beach restos. Stay away from them. Stick to the gargottes.
I always went to sebans and bar bleu. Who needs more. I charged my laptop at the beach. There was a very fat US female diving instructor there. I don't know if she's still around runs also a pizzeria and a dive shop.
One of the last paradises on earth.
La Buse.
Accommodation: Unless you really like to stay right besides Tahiti IMHO Diamant is really run down.
I checked following options:
LE LOUIS 15.
Rue Lyantey, Antsirabe, Madagascar.
+261 34 06 861 09.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DT5QK4BvE6ZPrqVA6
Hotel Hasina.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7iArW2ZPZx5e1H3Z6
Baobab.
Antsirabe, Madagascar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/62bjHKnJsoHZ93Yj6
All these places are ok. Between 40 and 50 k AR.
Recommended eateries:
As mentioned by NMExpert.
Hands down best place for breakfast. I love the cheese sandwiches.
Mirana.
Antsirabe, Madagascar.
+261 20 44 491 81.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/UgtJ9h1CNNATrL6E8
One of my top5 eateries in Mada. I love that place. In fact I am there right now. Draft THB. Just excellent food and cosy atmosphere and very good service.
Razafimamonjy.
Antsirabe, Madagascar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6guog4Psr7bH1Wyx8
If you like greek food. See my greek friend:
LE Grec.
Antsirabe, Madagascar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/wnUp2yLNpK8equVY8
Good south african Red Wine.
Sortir:
You can find chics as mentioned already in Tahiti and opposite SWs. This is the only place.
Other than that try the Karaoke joints.
I was lucky there. Nice atmosphere.
Nouveau Synchro.
Lot 01 E150, Lalana Pastuer, Antananarivo, Madagascar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/oBCZVTTbbuxQY4gr7
Or for the brave hearted:
Karaoke Atlas.
Antsirabe, Madagascar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EJpJQ2mW1X5BEVfq7
All other places I wrote about. As pointed out already. Don't come here if you're on a Sex-a-thon.
But perfect spot for R&R
La Buse.
Who's booked on the morrow to Fianar on Sonatra for 18.000 AR.
Member #4673
12-03-19, 17:37
Who's booked on the morrow to Fianar on Sonatra for 18.000 AR.I was staying in Hotel Mini Croq https://goo.gl/maps/k3qSSR754WBTae5Q9 its very central you will be surrounded by food options. Its cheap hotel but good.
Many small hole in the walls bars with girls. In fact walk from hotel and say Hi To Taxi drivers they will tell you the best places.
No need puspus there I was walking everywhere. I was in Jan and the roads becomes river.
Member #4673
12-03-19, 17:46
Who's booked on the morrow to Fianar on Sonatra for 18.000 AR.Bit hard to find the Gare Routiere du Sud for TB so its here https://goo.gl/maps/R2NWi4fjcQ8dqg3g9. They will happy to give you a good seat.
Took a kofifi taxi brousse from Tulear / Toliara to Fianar. Not grand luxe but good enough. Designated seats in a Mercedes Sprinter van. Took 2 seats on the row behind the driver for 30 k each place. Maybe the real price is 25 k. I had to phone different numbers, one said 25 k the other 30 k. We left around 7:30 and areived around 17:00 in Fianar.
I stayed at hotel Soratel conveniently located at 500 meter from the TB station and 250 meter from the train station. 64 k / night light breakfast included. Baths with hot water and good water pressure. The hotel is nothing special but it did the job for me.
The city has a good running semi-public bus service with numbers indicating where they go to, 400 AR anywhere you go to within the city.
I didn't know where to start so I asked a taxi driver to bring me to 'where the girls are walking outside'. He brought me to a crossing at about 750 meters from hotel Soratel. 10 SW's huddled together. You can't see very much but don't be intimidated. I walked to it and back in the dark 3 times never had a problem.
The girls are standing in front of Club Jax. Club Jax is a real club but is also a brothel. In the back they have have rooms. They are opened every day of the week except on mondays. Then SW's are an ecclectic mix. Some are ugly, some are fat, some are old but I also saw an absolute 9. She was gorgeous slim, young, long legged and dancing as if she was performing in a Michael Jackson video.
The club is probably not going to be to everyones liking. The atmosphere is a bit icy but I believe it is safe. It got talking to a guy who looked like a real hoodlum 115 kilos, sporting a huge afro. Actually he was the owner and a nice guy. His name is Nurah he's half Malgache and half French / Indian. Speaks perfect French, went to expat schools and studied in LE Reunion. Explained to me he and his coworkers are constantly scanning the place keeping the rif raf out. I was getting p*ssed with Nurah and I couldn't be bothered with the SW's anymore so I decided to walk home. I get lost. Where is my hotel? Suddenly I see a couple walking in my direction. She walks away from him and latches herself on to me. No French at all but she is doable. 40 k I say, ok. Good fuck, good service levels, no problem in the morning.
Next to club Jax there is a ST hotel with a bar restaurant and a couple of sex workers inside. Entry is through the bar. The SW I saw where second tier.
Sophia dance club: Went on a Monday. It was empty. According to the waitress it only gets busy thursdays to sundays. Als a couple of SW's outisde. Didn't see anything that caught my eye.
I think the city is generally safe. Watch out at night for the man holes you see here on every other corner.
Bit hard to find the Gare Routiere du Sud for TB so its here https://goo.gl/maps/R2NWi4fjcQ8dqg3g9. They will happy to give you a good seat.
Took a kofifi taxi brousse from Tulear / Toliara to Fianar. Not grand luxe but good enough. Designated seats in a Mercedes Sprinter van. Took 2 seats on the row behind the driver for 30 k each place. Maybe the real price is 25 k. I had to phone different numbers, one said 25 k the other 30 k. We left around 7:30 and areived around 17:00 in Fianar.
I stayed at hotel Soratel conveniently located at 500 meter from the TB station and 250 meter from the train station. 64 k / night light breakfast included. Baths with hot water and good water pressure. The hotel is nothing special but it did the job for me.
The city has a good running semi-public bus service with numbers indicating where they go to, 400 AR anywhere you go to within the city.
I didn't know where to start so I asked a taxi driver to bring me to 'where the girls are walking outside'. He brought me to a crossing at about 750 meters from hotel Soratel. 10 SW's huddled together. You can't see very much but don't be intimidated. I walked to it and back in the dark 3 times never had a problem.
The girls are standing in front of Club Jax. Club Jax is a real club but is also a brothel. In the back they have have rooms. They are opened every day of the week except on mondays. Then SW's are an ecclectic mix. Some are ugly, some are fat, some are old but I also saw an absolute 9. She was gorgeous slim, young, long legged and dancing as if she was performing in a Michael Jackson video.
The club is probably not going to be to everyones liking. The atmosphere is a bit icy but I believe it is safe. It got talking to a guy who looked like a real hoodlum 115 kilos, sporting a huge afro. Actually he was the owner and a nice guy. His name is Nurah he's half Malgache and half French / Indian. Speaks perfect French, went to expat schools and studied in LE Reunion. Explained to me he and his coworkers are constantly scanning the place keeping the rif raf out. I was getting p*ssed with Nurah and I couldn't be bothered with the SW's anymore so I decided to walk home. I get lost. Where is my hotel? Suddenly I see a couple walking in my direction. She walks away from him and latches herself on to me. No French at all but she is doable. 40 k I say, ok. Good fuck, good service levels, no problem in the morning.
Next to club Jax there is a ST hotel with a bar restaurant and a couple of sex workers inside. Entry is through the bar. The SW I saw where second tier.
Sophia dance club: Went on a Monday. It was empty. According to the waitress it only gets busy thursdays to sundays. Als a couple of SW's outisde. Didn't see anything that caught my eye.
I think the city is generally safe. Watch out at night for the man holes you see here on every other corner.Bloody excellent reporting. You're sure you're not a local?
La Buse.
Who's still hanging out in Antsirabe with an viral eye infection. But I scored yesterday a nice spinner of all places from Tulear " en vacance" sure.... LOL. From Tahiti. 40 k. No complaints. As I am partial to chicas in hot pants. In fact there were 2 good looking ones and about 5 uglies.
La Buse.
Eclectic mix. LOL. Same as here. Very nice way to put it...
The Tall Man
12-04-19, 23:21
Took a kofifi taxi brousse from Tulear / Toliara to Fianar. Not grand luxe but good enough. Designated seats in a Mercedes Sprinter van. Took 2 seats on the row behind the driver for 30 k each place. Maybe the real price is 25 k. I had to phone different numbers, one said 25 k the other 30 k. We left around 7:30 and areived around 17:00 in Fianar.
I stayed at hotel Soratel conveniently located at 500 meter from the TB station and 250 meter from the train station. 64 k / night light breakfast included. Baths with hot water and good water pressure. The hotel is nothing special but it did the job for me.
The city has a good running semi-public bus service with numbers indicating where they go to, 400 AR anywhere you go to within the city.Love the body on that girl, mummmmm delicious, loves the chocolate.
The Tall Man.
Seems cottise will open their agency at ambilobe from December 15. Will be interesting to know which routes they will offering.
Love the body on that girl, mummmmm delicious, loves the chocolate.
The Tall Man.Hey Tall Man! When you take the plunge? Tear yourself away from the Colombian Chicas negras and get yourself a ticket to the Dark Continent. I enticed a Canadian guy from ISG to take the plunge with my posts. He absolutely loved it. We had a blast in Mtwapa.
And also Madagascar. Such bodies are consumables here. Nothing special really. LOL.
La Buse.
But Mada you face the whole range of tropical disease:
Typhoid
Cholera
Plague
Malaria
Scabies
Food poisoning
Viral Eye infections
Chancroid
Hook worm
As this island has only endemic species... go figure... Endemic bacteria abound... As the french army finally invaded Madagascar in 1895 they had 6000 casualties through disease and 25! combat casualties... Go figure...
Triple Darknes
12-05-19, 16:31
June and July are cooler and might be a bit rainy in the capital Antanarivo. Concerning the Island of Nosy Be. Warmer than Tana but I personally Think NOSY is best by September-November and that also applies for the capital. Just my five cents! Concerning the Beauty of the African women it varies very much from the Islands of Cape Vert to Angola or Mozambique. But you are absolutely right about the beauty of the Eritreans and Ethiopians. But when it comes to the attitude it may leave a bit to be desired. And as a choice Madagascar is fine. Mostly in terms of natural Beauty both of the scenic views and the natural born Beauty of its ladies. And most important. Treat them with respect! Greetings from Lisbon.Thanks for the response.
But Mada you face the whole range of tropical disease:
Typhoid
Cholera
Plague
Malaria
Scabies
Food poisoning
Viral Eye infections
Chancroid
Hook worm
As this island has only endemic species... go figure... Endemic bacteria abound... As the french army finally invaded Madagascar in 1895 they had 6000 casualties through disease and 25! combat casualties... Go figure...Not to forget the biggest syphillis outbreak at Ft Dauphin.
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An outbreak of syphilis has prompted the government in Madagascar to declare a state of emergency in the southern town of Fort Dauphin. Ongoing tests suggest that about 17,000 people, or 30% of the region's sexually active population, may have the sexually transmitted disease. An economic boom linked to local mining projects has attracted prostitutes and international mine workers.
Unquote.
Ok, it was in 2007. But with the treatment they got, there are leftovers.
There are 3 available classes on the train to Makara. 1st class tourists and 1st & 2nd class Malagasy. Tickets are 70 k one way. Reservations can be made in the station of Fianar or Manakara. Non residents are obliged to sit in 1st class vaza. You get the best view if tou take a seat on the left side of the train. Trains leave Fianar at 7:00 in the morning tuesdays and saturdays and leave in the opposite direction from Manakara the next day at 7:00 wednesdays and sundays.
The distance is about 180 km. The train charges / discharges every 10 km at a station so no need to bring food along. You have enough time to buy food from the vendors. A big bottle of water will do. Comfortable ride but it can get hot. These trains originally rode a track in the Swiss mountains. In India every wagon is fitted with 20 ventilators, here none. When you go to the toilet you will see a small area designated for police and railway workers. Try to make friends with them so you can sit there. They have the slide doors open at both sides so the area gets naturally ventilated and you get an amazing view.
The train broke down a couple of times. After 20 hours journey we arrive in Manakara at 3:00 in the morning.
Pousse drivers are playing it hard here. It's 3:00 am and they know your exhausted and need a pousse. I originally got quoted 15 k to bring me to be beach (Hotel Delice Annex). I negotiated 2000. (Residents pay 1000-1500).
We are cycling to the beach and it's pitch black outside. I see a non moving vehicle at 150 meters, torches flashing and people talking. I'm a bit tense I thought we where cycling towards a police check point. A man flashes his torch into my direction. I believe he's a police man. When we get closer I realize he's a Frenchman who sat with us on the train. He has a hole in his forehead and he's bleeding profusely.
He and his wife got caught in an ambush minutes before I arrived there. They got attacked by 3 guys wielding battons. The pousse drivers left their pousses behind and did a runner leaving the couple at the mercy of their attackers.
The beach is about 1,5 km from the city center. To get there you have to cross a bridge. It's a deserted area nobody lives there. Just before the bridge there is a ramp forcing traffic to slow down. It's 3:30 in the morning. It's the ideal time and place for a robbery.
Normally you would show empathy towards the victims but I was worried about my own safety. This had happened minutes before I arrived. These guys where still around and I needed to get to my hotel. I felt vulnerable. A pousse isn't a taxi you can't close the doors.
I met the couple the next day. Both of them needed medical attention. He has no clothing left, nothing.
According to locals this does not happen often but it is the second time this year.
I was sleeping at Hotel Delice Annex 80 k. You get a view of the Pangalane canal but overpriced to my opinion and I don't want cross that bridge at night. You're also cut off from the main village.
The next day I moved to Hotel Delice in the actual city of Manakara. This is some of the best budget accommodation I have seen in Madagascar. Rooms from 25 k to 50 k. I took a room for 50 k but even the rooms of 25 k are value / money. I didn't have the feeling I lowered myself to Neanderthal level by sleeping here.
Hotel Delice also has an excellent budget restaurant. Ask for the 'plats du jour'. I had fresh fish with sauce and rice for 8 k and duck with rice for 9 k.
Another good budget restaurant is LE Poulet. I ate a 300 gram Zebu steak with fried potatoes for 8 k.
For breakfast I went to the Hotel Noor (awful rooms). 2 fried eggs for 1500 AR and tea with milk for 1000. You do have to buy your own bread at the cornershop, 400 AR for half a baguette.
Neddy asked if I'm a local. I'm as vaza as you can get and sometimes I make mistakes. It happened when I was enjoying my afternoon tea at the restaurant of Hotel Noor. A bit a crappy place but their tea is excellent and you have a view of the locals buying fresh fish. Then I saw her. A small 100 m runner wearing a miniature jeans about 10 cm long LOL. I couldn't stop smiling. She had noticed but she was with family. I lost sight of her and thought: that's it then. Suddenly she was sitting at my table. We chatted a little and I asked for her number. She proposes to go for a drink later that evening. Big mistake of mine. These so called 'amateurs' can be worse than the majority of the pros. But I thought she was an amateur wasn't she? So I foolishly didn't smell a rat.
She hit the jackpot and we where going to go out in grand style. Sisters joined the table and enjoyed the fruits of the horn of plenty. We are not talking about huge sums but I consider it to be disrespectful. She was getting pissed. On the way back home she starts manhandling the pousse driver. She starts fighting him. A police man has to drag her away from him. Add to all this the playing, manipulation, dishonesty, fake sex and more she was a disaster in the making. As I had asked her early in the night if she could do my washing I was stuck with her a second night. The next day she wanted me to go and eat at her parents place. I politely declined. I know it's safer not to 'wine and dine' them but it still should, one way or another, be possible to go for a drink with a girl.
Didn't do any other mongering around here. Did hear from an Englishman there where some SW's standing in front of hotel Sidi as NMexpert has mentioned in a previous report.
Many thanks.
There are 3 available classes on the train to Makara. 1st class tourists and 1st & 2nd class Malagasy. Tickets are 70 k one way. Reservations can be made in the station of Fianar or Manakara. Non residents are obliged to sit in 1st class vaza. You get the best view if tou take a seat on the left side of the train. Trains leave Fianar at 7:00 in the morning tuesdays and saturdays and leave in the opposite direction from Manakara the next day at 7:00 wednesdays and sundays.
The distance is about 180 km. The train charges / discharges every 10 km at a station so no need to bring food along. You have enough time to buy food from the vendors. A big bottle of water will do. Comfortable ride but it can get hot. These trains originally rode a track in the Swiss mountains. In India every wagon is fitted with 20 ventilators, here none. When you go to the toilet you will see a small area designated for police and railway workers. Try to make friends with them so you can sit there. They have the slide doors open at both sides so the area gets naturally ventilated and you get an amazing view.
The train broke down a couple of times. After 20 hours journey we arrive in Manakara at 3:00 in the morning.
Pousse drivers are playing it hard here. It's 3:00 am and they know your exhausted and need a pousse. I originally got quoted 15 k to bring me to be beach (Hotel Delice Annex). I negotiated 2000. (Residents pay 1000-1500).
We are cycling to the beach and it's pitch black outside. I see a non moving vehicle at 150 meters, torches flashing and people talking. I'm a bit tense I thought we where cycling towards a police check point. A man flashes his torch into my direction. I believe he's a police man. When we get closer I realize he's a Frenchman who sat with us on the train. He has a hole in his forehead and he's bleeding profusely.
He and his wife got caught in an ambush minutes before I arrived there. They got attacked by 3 guys wielding battons. The pousse drivers left their pousses behind and did a runner leaving the couple at the mercy of their attackers.
The beach is about 1,5 km from the city center. To get there you have to cross a bridge. It's a deserted area nobody lives there. Just before the bridge there is a ramp forcing traffic to slow down. It's 3:30 in the morning. It's the ideal time and place for a robbery.
Normally you would show empathy towards the victims but I was worried about my own safety. This had happened minutes before I arrived. These guys where still around and I needed to get to my hotel. I felt vulnerable. A pousse isn't a taxi you can't close the doors.
I met the couple the next day. Both of them needed medical attention. He has no clothing left, nothing.
According to locals this does not happen often but it is the second time this year.
I was sleeping at Hotel Delice Annex 80 k. You get a view of the Pangalane canal but overpriced to my opinion and I don't want cross that bridge at night. You're also cut off from the main village.
The next day I moved to Hotel Delice in the actual city of Manakara. This is some of the best budget accommodation I have seen in Madagascar. Rooms from 25 k to 50 k. I took a room for 50 k but even the rooms of 25 k are value / money. I didn't have the feeling I lowered myself to Neanderthal level by sleeping here.
Hotel Delice also has an excellent budget restaurant. Ask for the 'plats du jour'. I had fresh fish with sauce and rice for 8 k and duck with rice for 9 k.
Another good budget restaurant is LE Poulet. I ate a 300 gram Zebu steak with fried potatoes for 8 k.
For breakfast I went to the Hotel Noor (awful rooms). 2 fried eggs for 1500 AR and tea with milk for 1000. You do have to buy your own bread at the cornershop, 400 AR for half a baguette.
Neddy asked if I'm a local. I'm as vaza as you can get and sometimes I make mistakes. It happened when I was enjoying my afternoon tea at the restaurant of Hotel Noor. A bit a crappy place but their tea is excellent and you have a view of the locals buying fresh fish. Then I saw her. A small 100 m runner wearing a miniature jeans about 10 cm long LOL. I couldn't stop smiling. She had noticed but she was with family. I lost sight of her and thought: that's it then. Suddenly she was sitting at my table. We chatted a little and I asked for her number. She proposes to go for a drink later that evening. Big mistake of mine. These so called 'amateurs' can be worse than the majority of the pros. But I thought she was an amateur wasn't she? So I foolishly didn't smell a rat.
She hit the jackpot and we where going to go out in grand style. Sisters joined the table and enjoyed the fruits of the horn of plenty. We are not talking about huge sums but I consider it to be disrespectful. She was getting pissed. On the way back home she starts manhandling the pousse driver. She starts fighting him. A police man has to drag her away from him. Add to all this the playing, manipulation, dishonesty, fake sex and more she was a disaster in the making. As I had asked her early in the night if she could do my washing I was stuck with her a second night. The next day she wanted me to go and eat at her parents place. I politely declined. I know it's safer not to 'wine and dine' them but it still should, one way or another, be possible to go for a drink with a girl.
Didn't do any other mongering around here. Did hear from an Englishman there where some SW's standing in front of hotel Sidi as NMexpert has mentioned in a previous report.
Many thanks.Wow. Adventure. Sort of. 20 hours for 180 km. That's problematic to arrive 3 o clock in the morning. Very tricky. This French guy was just very unlucky. In Kenya also people wait for daybreak in the matatu. I carry all my cash and passport in sewn in hidden pockets inside my trousers. I'd just run away if I were in a similar situation leaving my luggage behind. nothing in there which can't be replaced...
A German I know was robbed in Tana by his taxidriver and a second guy... Was a recommendation of the hotel LOL... Inside job. Another guy I know was robbed at gunpoint when the taxi stuck in traffic. they took off with his luggage....
In Africa the bad guys melt away at dawn. I'd probably would have stayed put at the train station until dawn. Difficult decision.
La Buse.
I had a similar party girl in Morondave. Make no mistake some of these chicks are hard partiers. But you call the shots. They get one THB GM and that's it. Here in Antsirabe the chicas operate in pairs. You also pay a drink for the friend. But only one. And as a courtesy I when I took a girl of the two the other asks politely for the frais pousse home. 2000 AR. Don't feel bad. I am partial to chics in 10 cm Hot pants too. As long as it doesn't break the bank. Let others do the laundry though. .
Not to forget the biggest syphillis outbreak at Ft Dauphin.
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An outbreak of syphilis has prompted the government in Madagascar to declare a state of emergency in the southern town of Fort Dauphin. Ongoing tests suggest that about 17,000 people, or 30% of the region's sexually active population, may have the sexually transmitted disease. An economic boom linked to local mining projects has attracted prostitutes and international mine workers.
Unquote.
Ok, it was in 2007. But with the treatment they got, there are leftovers.Aaah. And not to forget leprosy. In fact Antsirabe was founded as Leper station by norwegian missionaries of the Lutheran church.
In fact I just donated some change to a begging leper on the roadside. His hands were only stumps.
La Buse.
Albert9989
12-07-19, 10:35
Aaah. And not to forget leprosy. In fact Antsirabe was founded as Leper station by norwegian missionaries of the Lutheran church.
In fact I just donated some change to a begging leper on the roadside. His hands were only stumps.
La Buse.And what about plague this year, two years ago, at same period they had a strong case with hundreds of people hit by plague, and many with pneumonic plague, nice disease, death coming two days after 1st contact.
But I didn't heard about this year.
And what about plague this year, two years ago, at same period they had a strong case with hundreds of people hit by plague, and many with pneumonic plague, nice disease, death coming two days after 1st contact.
But I didn't heard about this year.No major outbreak this year. The last big one was 2017. Most affected were the central Highlands. Plague can easily be treated with the right antibiotics.
La Buse.
My risk assessment is. The biggest danger in Africa is the traffic.
https://www.who.int/csr/don/27-november-2017-plague-madagascar/en/
Albert9989
12-07-19, 14:35
No major outbreak this year. The last big one was 2017. Most affected were the central Highlands. Plague can easily be treated with the right antibiotics.
La Buse.
My risk assessment is. The biggest danger in Africa is the traffic.
https://www.who.int/csr/don/27-november-2017-plague-madagascar/en/Ah yes, traffic, for sure.
But. Pneumonic plague, this let you 24 to 72 hours before death. So depending where you are, you must urge to find the treament. Once you notice that you are infected.
That's also Mada's nice gifts.
Ah yes, traffic, for sure.
But. Pneumonic plague, this let you 24 to 72 hours before death. So depending where you are, you must urge to find the treament. Once you notice that you are infected.
That's also Mada's nice gifts.Albert. The most sadly thing I heard today. Would you believe that 12 years old kids die in Madagascar of common measles. It just makes me sad.
La Buse.
Unimaginable in the 21st century. Fuck all these so called do gooders like the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. All they do throw billions at the pharmaceutical Industry. Makes me throw up!
20 hours to travel 100 miles. Violent armed robberies. Medieval plague, cholera, syphilis and much more. Call me a pampered westerner but I'm thinking more and more of just staying put in Nosy Be next summer!
20 hours to travel 100 miles. Violent armed robberies. Medieval plague, cholera, syphilis and much more. Call me a pampered westerner but I'm thinking more and more of just staying put in Nosy Be next summer!Don't play dumb tourist. And resist. Like these Chinese dragging around cameras and tablets... Make no mistake these people operate in gangs. They're armed with pistols, batons, knives and machetes...
These are very recent newspaper clippings...
La Buse
Member #4673
12-08-19, 12:54
Don't play dumb tourist. And resist.
La BuseWrong Analysis.
The guy was walking streets in a Slum of isotry antananarivo with a backpack containing laptop and camera. His other stuff he left in first class hotel in Tana.
1. why you visiting slums?
2. why you visiting slums with camera / laptop?
So the solution is not to be in this situation in the first place http://www.midi-madagasikara.mg/a-la-une/2019/11/04/isotry-un-touriste-chinois-tabasse/.
La buse.
Who's arriving next week to Toliara for two month in Mad.
Albert9989
12-08-19, 12:55
Don't play dumb tourist. And resist. Like these Chinese dragging around cameras and tablets... Make no mistake these people operate in gangs. They're armed with pistols, batons, knives and machetes...
These are very recent newspaper clippings...
La BuseHmmm, yes, but I can show same stories which happened here in Paris.
Triple Darknes
12-09-19, 11:27
20 hours to travel 100 miles. Violent armed robberies. Medieval plague, cholera, syphilis and much more. Call me a pampered westerner but I'm thinking more and more of just staying put in Nosy Be next summer!My sentiments exactly.
Trip.
Wrong Analysis.
The guy was walking streets in a Slum of isotry antananarivo with a backpack containing laptop and camera. His other stuff he left in first class hotel in Tana.
1. why you visiting slums?
2. why you visiting slums with camera / laptop?
So the solution is not to be in this situation in the first place http://www.midi-madagasikara.mg/a-la-une/2019/11/04/isotry-un-touriste-chinois-tabasse/.
La buse.
Who's arriving next week to Toliara for two month in Mad.You and me. We are no tourists. And I also don't walk 5 o'clock in the morning in Isoraka.
Have fun in rainy season.
La Buse.
Took the Cotisse taxi brousse from Fianar to Tana yesterday. Light class 25 k, 10 h30. The TB wasn't sold out contrary to the back breaking TB I took yesterday from Ranomafana. Every time you think you have seen it all. 11 adults and a baby in the row behind the driver. 5 sitting on 4 seats, 2 in foetal position on the floor 3 standing like Quasimodo hunchbacks, 1 on someones lap and 1 baby. In moments like these you know you have to let go and be more Zen than the Buddha. Otherwise your going to drive yourself mad.
Went for the first time to club Manson yesterday. About 40 girls and to my surprise about 20 vaza but good atmosphere. A girl decided to strip herself half naked on the bar. Took a starfish home but actually I knew she wasn't kosher.
Usually you can sense there is something amiss with a girl but for whatever reason you ignored the signs. From now on if they is anything I don't like about a girl I move on to the next one, beautiful or not.
Does anyone know what the best gym is in Tana? I’m planning to go to Equinox in a couple of hours.
Took the Cotisse taxi brousse from Fianar to Tana yesterday. Light class 25 k, 10 h30. The TB wasn't sold out contrary to the back breaking TB I took yesterday from Ranomafana. Every time you think you have seen it all. 11 adults and a baby in the row behind the driver. 5 sitting on 4 seats, 2 in foetal position on the floor 3 standing like Quasimodo hunchbacks, 1 on someones lap and 1 baby. In moments like these you know you have to let go and be more Zen than the Buddha. Otherwise your going to drive yourself mad.
Went for the first time to club Manson yesterday. About 40 girls and to my surprise about 20 vaza but good atmosphere. A girl decided to strip herself half naked on the bar. Took a starfish home but actually I knew she wasn't kosher.
Usually you can sense there is something amiss with a girl but for whatever reason you ignored the signs. From now on if they is anything I don't like about a girl I move on to the next one, beautiful or not.
Does anyone know what the best gym is in Tana? Im planning to go to Equinox in a couple of hours.Welcome to Madagascar. Reminds me on my trip from Diego to Ankify last year. Always stick to the sprinter busses. They have guaranteed seating. Never take the regional smaller minibusses. They're filled to capacity and stop at every hut. LOL. 10 hours.
Gym. No Idea. I only shag for workout. If you like cardio run up Haute ville towards the Rova.
La Buse.
Who finds Antsirabe extremely pleasant. Sufficient pussy around. Balmy weather. No crime den. No crazy traffic like Tana. Good food. Lavazza Espresso Rano Visy everywhere. Laid back. Less pollution. Less noise. cheap pousse transport. Loads of Karaoke joints where you find chicas hanging out...
Member #4673
12-10-19, 09:14
. cheap pousse transport...You said 2 k in your last post. Did you manage to go 500?
Member #4673
12-10-19, 09:20
Does anyone know what the best gym is in Tana?.Expert go to the gym opposite Manson. Around here https://goo.gl/maps/hnfq8pNUEf5ppgG4A.
Forget what google map show its there. Not the best but OK many girls there. 100 m from manson.
Took the Cotisse taxi brousse from Fianar to Tana yesterday. Light class 25 k, 10 h30. The TB wasn't sold out contrary to the back breaking TB I took yesterday from Ranomafana. Every time you think you have seen it all. 11 adults and a baby in the row behind the driver. 5 sitting on 4 seats, 2 in foetal position on the floor 3 standing like Quasimodo hunchbacks, 1 on someones lap and 1 baby. In moments like these you know you have to let go and be more Zen than the Buddha. Otherwise your going to drive yourself mad.
Went for the first time to club Manson yesterday. About 40 girls and to my surprise about 20 vaza but good atmosphere. A girl decided to strip herself half naked on the bar. Took a starfish home but actually I knew she wasn't kosher.
Usually you can sense there is something amiss with a girl but for whatever reason you ignored the signs. From now on if they is anything I don't like about a girl I move on to the next one, beautiful or not.
Does anyone know what the best gym is in Gym: across the street from Tamboho Suites.
You said 2 k in your last post. Did you manage to go 500?No. That's NMExpert price only. Not even a local pays 500. But outside city center for less than 500 meters maybe. But I paid a 1000. But from Mirana to Diamant its 2000.
La Buse.
Expert go to the gym opposite Manson. Around here https://goo.gl/maps/hnfq8pNUEf5ppgG4A.
Forget what google map show its there. Not the best but OK many girls there. 100 m from manson.Is there a decent gym / health club in ambatoloaka which does monthly membership?
Gym: across the street from Tamboho Suites.Think this is the same gym NME is referring to. If you stand with your back to Manson walk down the street 150 metres.
A pity Tana is so dangerous at night. If you walk a bit around Sole Hotel you will notice the whole area is full of SW's after nightfall. You have to be discriminate though. Some of them are clearly in need of medical attention. In some other cases the difference between a club girl and a street girl is just a wig and high heels in my opinion. I think I would dare to cruise the area until 21-22 o clock but not later than that.
Arrived in Nosy Be this morning. Did some budget hotel hunting this afternoon. Visited La Caravelle 60 k+, Coucher du Soleil 80 k+, Ody 60 k+, Barracuda and hotel Ambatoloaka 60 k+.
The absolute best of the whole lot was undoutably Hotel Ambatoloaka. It's a new hotel and they are offering discounts to attract customers. You can find pictures online but don't book through the websites, contact the hotel directly. Prices start at 60 k for a room with mountain view, 72 k for a room with sea view and add about 35 k more for air conditionting. I reserved a room with mountain view for tomorrow (no direct sunlight, less heat). FYI: no toilet seats.
TP.
Member #4673
12-11-19, 17:55
Arrived in Nosy Be this morning.
TP.Opposite Taxi be 50 m up the dirt road you will see the GYM but now in a bad condition. Let me know if you find better one then that.
Think this is the same gym NME is referring to. If you stand with your back to Manson walk down the street 150 metres.
A pity Tana is so dangerous at night. If you walk a bit around Sole Hotel you will notice the whole area is full of SW's after nightfall. You have to be discriminate though. Some of them are clearly in need of medical attention. In some other cases the difference between a club girl and a street girl is just a wig and high heels in my opinion. I think I would dare to cruise the area until 21-22 o clock but not later than that.
TP.Totally different gym: Tamboho suites overlooks Ambohijatovo Garden where the good gym is.
If the street girl puts on a wig and make-up and pays the cover for LE Glacier, she's dressing up for her date! Surely that merits paying double, otherwise true: there is little difference in most cases.
Why walk these areas at night? Between the police or whatever else, you don't need the aggravation.
Think this is the same gym NME is referring to. If you stand with your back to Manson walk down the street 150 metres.
A pity Tana is so dangerous at night. If you walk a bit around Sole Hotel you will notice the whole area is full of SW's after nightfall. You have to be discriminate though. Some of them are clearly in need of medical attention. In some other cases the difference between a club girl and a street girl is just a wig and high heels in my opinion. I think I would dare to cruise the area until 21-22 o clock but not later than that.
Arrived in Nosy Be this morning. Did some budget hotel hunting this afternoon. Visited La Caravelle 60 k+, Coucher du Soleil 80 k+, Ody 60 k+, Barracuda and hotel Ambatoloaka 60 k+.
The absolute best of the whole lot was undoutably Hotel Ambatoloaka. It's a new hotel and they are offering discounts to attract customers. You can find pictures online but don't book through the websites, contact the hotel directly. Prices start at 60 k for a room with mountain view, 72 k for a room with sea view and add about 35 k more for air conditionting. I reserved a room with mountain view for tomorrow (no direct sunlight, less heat). FYI: no toilet seats.
TP.Accurate sitrep. I walked many times after night fall in that area. Mostly the SWs huddle together in groups some in well lit areas in front of shops. Sometimes there's chics even before nightfall. Met three sweet lasses last year around Les artistes late afternoon. Could have taken all three if I wanted. I was followed by a sweet lass also late afternoon before nightfall. If you do that stunt after nightfall avoid dark corners, stick to well lit roads, be aware of your surroundings, walk in the middle of the road and wear your fast sole sneakers and be ready for a 1000 meter Sprint LOL. Carry only a cheap Nokia and 20 k AR. But absolutely some sweet young SWs.
As for Hotel Ambatalook. Its for sure new. Belongs to a Chinese. When I was there some floors were a construction site. But sure. Brand new rooms. Expect prices to go up when the hotel is finished. I personally don't like concrete bunkers which have to be cooled down by AC though. No toilet seats. LOL. No water is a lot worse for the seasoned Africa Traveller...
La Buse.
Who doesn't need AC in Antsirabe.
Totally different gym: Tamboho suites overlooks Ambohijatovo Garden where the good gym is.
If the street girl puts on a wig and make-up and pays the cover for LE Glacier, she's dressing up for her date! Surely that merits paying double, otherwise true: there is little difference in most cases.
Why walk these areas at night? Between the police or whatever else, you don't need the aggravation.I only realised they where there the night before I flew to Nosy and as such I don't know what the tariff is for Tana street walkers.
My main issue is I don't like clubbing. I start losing interest in the girls after a couple of drinks and it ruins my day after. But I admit there is a risk factor. A calculated risk but a real risk nevertheless.
Didn't feel good yesterday. This morning I woke up to find 3 pimple like spots on my knob. Probably not herpes, I know what that looks and feels like. I hope I have not contracted an STD.
TP.
I only realised they where there the night before I flew to Nosy and as such I don't know what the tariff is for Tana street walkers.
My main issue is I don't like clubbing. I start losing interest in the girls after a couple of drinks and it ruins my day after. But I admit there is a risk factor. A calculated risk but a real risk nevertheless.
Didn't feel good yesterday. This morning I woke up to find 3 pimple like spots on my knob. Probably not herpes, I know what that looks and feels like. I hope I have not contracted an STD.
TP.If you go in raw. There is a fairly common STD called chancroid. Nothing special really. Ulcus molle caused by a bacteria H. Ducreyii. You get a painful small ulcer where the bacteria enters the skin. Usually on the foreskin area. Go to the next pharmacy and buy 1500 MG Azithromycine. Take a single dose of 1000 mgs. Takes about 10 days for the ulcer to heal. Most females are not aware as they're mostly symptom free.
My educated guess anyway. LOL.
Other than that Herpes genitalis.
La Buse.
The one who claims who has never paid bribes or never contracted STD is a liar and has never been to Africa. LOL.
Why walk these areas at night? Between the police or whatever else, you don't need the aggravation.10 years ago you got stopped every 500 m by a police control, asking for your passport with visa. And some cadeaux.
Its getting less over the years.
At my last visit I did walk in that area at night. Didn't feel an imminent threat and also didn't see those controls anymore. But at the same time also less SW's around the Sole Hotel and from there the way up to the Sakamaga Hotel, which was before a hotbed of groups of ladies of all ages.
Nosy Be, Ambatoloaka is completely different than any other place I visited in Mada so far. It actually is a small holiday resort with the advantages and disadvantages it comes with but I feel good here. If I would have to choose between Nosy, Tulear or Tana, Nosy would win hands down. And I'm just speaking about the feel good factor on the ground. The women are beautiful and plentiful.
Food costs here nearly double than what I was paying in Manakara and Ranomafana and there are not that many budget eateries. If you stand with your back to the casino you will see a gargotte in front of you serving dishes between 6 to 10 k. Most of these gargottes will serve more or less the same menu. Fish, chicken or beef in sauce with rice. I'm from a potato eating country. I have not found a gargotte yet that serves a simple steak with fries.
I went for a stroll on the beach yesterday. It was to my surprise less commercial than I expected it to be. A bit more upscale restaurants and hotels but no beach bars. Or did I walk the wrong way?
At the end of Dar I saw a 'hotel' called 'Tortue Rapide'. It is next to the 4 star hotel Royal Beach Hotel. Rooms start at 36 k. Not for me. Very basic. If the price is your main issue.
A pity Tana is so dangerous at night. If you walk a bit around Sole Hotel you will notice the whole area is full of SW's after nightfall. You have to be discriminate though. Some of them are clearly in need of medical attention. In some other cases the difference between a club girl and a street girl is just a wig and high heels in my opinion. I think I would dare to cruise the area until 21-22 o clock but not later than that.
TP.When I was in Tana I asked a taxi driver to drive slowly around in the streets with SW. It was safe and easy to pick up a girl. Taxi driver was also into it and helped me to translate for girls who didn't speak French.
When we stopped to negotiate with a girl I liked all the girls came to the taxi ans start chatting to us. Very funny and I felt safe the whole time.
When I was in Tana I asked a taxi driver to drive slowly around in the streets with SW. It was safe and easy to pick up a girl. Taxi driver was also into it and helped me to translate for girls who didn't speak French.
When we stopped to negotiate with a girl I liked all the girls came to the taxi ans start chatting to us. Very funny and I felt safe the whole time.I had also wanted to do this but I was unsure about the taxi cost. I wonder if there is an accepted hourly taxi rate. What did you agree with the driver?
I had also wanted to do this but I was unsure about the taxi cost. I wonder if there is an accepted hourly taxi rate. What did you agree with the driver?You always can negotiate the rate with driver like every country.
I had also wanted to do this but I was unsure about the taxi cost. I wonder if there is an accepted hourly taxi rate. What did you agree with the driver?When he brought me back with 2 girls I choose I just gave him an extra tip of 5 k. But he also liked the whole thing and we very much laughed and made fun with the girls in the street.
So it was not so much a ride he didn't like to make.
Well. After spending almost 2 weeks in Antsirabe due to various health issues. Time to move in the direction of Tulear. Sort of. The travel from Antsirabe to Fianar went fairly painless. Sprinter 6 hours. My intention was to continue next morning to Tulear. New lessons learned. Avoid taking Taxi Brousse on Sundays. Takes too long to fill up. After presenting myself at Sonatra at 0630 I figured a departure around 0800 latest. Well. Fat chance. Here you're being pestered by all kinds of touts want to extract money off you for an imaginary service. After playing the waiting game it looked we were going to depart finally around 0900. It's getting late. Than an malgache Expat family Reunion? Started to raise hell with the driver he took on an unauthorized policeman as passenger crammed in. Than he started to drive like a madman to make up for lost time. End of story of that SNAFU we all ended up close to 1000 hours BACK at the station. Welcome to Mada.
I find Fianar actually very pleasant and cheap. Much milder climate Yesterday evening I checked out Jax. But I also liked the gasy boite besides it. Some fuglies tried to attach themselves. I pass merci.
La Buse.
Who doesn't feel to continue to Tulear right now. Found a cozy guest house run by a former chinese Kung Fu champion. Dirt cheap 35 k.
Well. After spending almost 2 weeks in Antsirabe due to various health issues. Time to move in the direction of Tulear. Sort of. The travel from Antsirabe to Fianar went fairly painless. Sprinter 6 hours. My intention was to continue next morning to Tulear. New lessons learned. Avoid taking Taxi Brousse on Sundays. Takes too long to fill up. After presenting myself at Sonatra at 0630 I figured a departure around 0800 latest. Well. Fat chance. Here you're being pestered by all kinds of touts want to extract money off you for an imaginary service. After playing the waiting game it looked we were going to depart finally around 0900. It's getting late. Than an malgache Expat family Reunion? Started to raise hell with the driver he took on an unauthorized policeman as passenger crammed in. Than he started to drive like a madman to make up for lost time. End of story of that SNAFU we all ended up close to 1000 hours BACK at the station. Welcome to Mada.
I find Fianar actually very pleasant and cheap. Much milder climate Yesterday evening I checked out Jax. But I also liked the gasy boite besides it. Some fuglies tried to attach themselves. I pass merci.
La Buse.
Who doesn't feel to continue to Tulear right now. Found a cozy guest house run by a former chinese Kung Fu champion. Dirt cheap 35 k.I wonder what the gasy boite beside it is? Jax is on the corner. Next to it I only saw the ST hotel / bar which, if I remember well, was called 'New Hotel'.
Little side note about The Jax club. The owner told me some German guys would show up at his place with printed out copies from a sex site as if they where holding the Bradt Sex Guide, lol.
That former Kung Fu champion has got to be the owner of the 'Dragon the'Or'. Went to eat there a couple of times. Nothing special but a very nice guy.
I wonder what the gasy boite beside it is? Jax is on the corner. Next to it I only saw the ST hotel / bar which, if I remember well, was called 'New Hotel'.
Little side note about The Jax club. The owner told me some German guys would show up at his place with printed out copies from a sex site as if they where holding the Bradt Sex Guide, lol.
That former Kung Fu champion has got to be the owner of the 'Dragon the'Or'. Went to eat there a couple of times. Nothing special but a very nice guy.Ya. New Hotel. LOL. Germans? Ya. Dumb as f. K. They should not be allowed into subsaharan Africa lest they pass the aptitude test. Yes. Dragon. Found a super resto uphill. Called Petit bouffe.
Happy Advent Sunday.
La Buse.
Who will go for a nice Banana split dessert. And later I ll look for a 8+ 2nd dessert DATY. LOL.
BTW. Train is down. Waiting for spare parts. But you can rent the Micheline.
Ya. New Hotel. Yax.. Found a super resto uphill. Called Petit bouffe.
e.You did follow my Google-Map updates with pictures from 4 weeks ago? All this places added there.
Perhaps you did carry the printout? Hahaha.
You did follow my Google-Map updates with pictures from 4 weeks ago? All this places added there.
Perhaps you did carry the printout? Hahaha.No? When did you do an update? In fact I found it on my own walking around. Excellent Ice Cream. As you know I am not german. LOL. No offense. But you know as I know the dumbest people are on german speaking forums. No clue about Africa. Except the senior members in this forum. LOL.
Neddy.
And if you need a print out to find places... See above... For that I hv Google maps... And to find girls.... Well I find them by walking around in the evening.... Saw a hot 8+....
The only bank I have found to be reliable in Mada for MC is BFV-SocGen. BNI says it does but I have never been able to get money out of a BNI ATM with my MC. On another (down) note Bank of Africa is starting to charge a fee for ATM withdrawal. 10200 Ariary. Needless to say I went elsewhere. This was in Hellville. Maybe not country wide yet? Let's hope it doesn't spread. It's not much but it is nonsense when you can only withdraw 400000 at a time!I have been able to withdraw from Societe Generale, BNI and a third bank with my Mastercard, MCB Mauritius Commercial Bank. Sometimes I have not even been able to withdraw 400 k but today I could withdraw 800 k from the BNI in Ambatoloaka.
I have been able to withdraw from Societe Generale, BNI and a third bank with my Mastercard, MCB Mauritius Commercial Bank. Sometimes I have not even been able to withdraw 400 k but today I could withdraw 800 k from the BNI in Ambatoloaka.I'm impressed. Get a Visa Credit Card. Works anytime. Anyplace. Always draw 800k from BMOI or BNI. Except the ATM is empty...
La Buse.
Who's on the piss with a polish Ex Legionnaire at Anchre the Or. Belongs to ancien guy de Infanterie de Marine Francaise.
SouthEaster
12-16-19, 19:32
Tailpipe, when you say you could withdraw 800 k was that in a single transaction or two in a row?
SE.
Tailpipe, when you say you could withdraw 800 k was that in a single transaction or two in a row?
SE.One single transaction.
I'm impressed. Get a Visa Credit Card. Works anytime. Anyplace. Always draw 800k from BMOI or BNI. Except the ATM is empty...We all live in different countries. I for instance can't apply for the Visa card you use that allows you to withdraw at the Visa exchange rate. If I would use my usual Visa card I would have to pay 6 EUR on top of the Visa exchange rate for every 100 EUR I withdraw.
Before leaving I applied for 4 extra Master / Visacards claiming to offer near zero % commission for foreign ATM withdrawels to see what results they would yield in Madagascar. A Revolut Visacard and 3 Mastercards, N26, Transferwise and Monese.
I personally prefere using Monese. They will offer you 200 EUR free withdrawels at the Mastercard exchange rate, if you upgrade to classic 4,95 EUR/month they will allow you to withdraw an additional 800 EUR and unlimited withdrawells if you upgrade to premium 14,95 EUR/month. You can upgrade and downgrade whenever you like.
N26 has the same mastercard exchange rate as Monese and a very similar pricing plan but you are on a yearly plan. I only travel 1 to 2 months a year so I prefer Monese.
Revolut has been less interesting for me. They add about 1% to the Visa exchange rate whatever plan you may be on and Visa is about 0,3% less favorable than Mastercard but it is a Visacard so you have more ATM's you can withdraw from. Revolut is my backup card.
At the end of the day there isn't that much difference between all of them. They where all better than exchanging cash at the official bureaux de change.
One single transaction.
We all live in different countries. I for instance can't apply for the Visa card you use that allows you to withdraw at the Visa exchange rate. If I would use my usual Visa card I would have to pay 6 EUR on top of the Visa exchange rate for every 100 EUR I withdraw.
Before leaving I applied for 4 extra Master / Visacards claiming to offer near zero % commission for foreign ATM withdrawels to see what results they would yield in Madagascar. A Revolut Visacard and 3 Mastercards, N26, Transferwise and Monese.
I personally prefere using Monese. They will offer you 200 EUR free withdrawels at the Mastercard exchange rate, if you upgrade to classic 4,95 EUR/month they will allow you to withdraw an additional 800 EUR and unlimited withdrawells if you upgrade to premium 14,95 EUR/month. You can upgrade and downgrade whenever you like.
N26 has the same mastercard exchange rate as Monese and a very similar pricing plan but you are on a yearly plan. I only travel 1 to 2 months a year so I prefer Monese.
Revolut has been less interesting for me. They add about 1% to the Visa exchange rate whatever plan you may be on and Visa is about 0,3% less favorable than Mastercard but it is a Visacard so you have more ATM's you can withdraw from. Revolut is my backup card.
At the end of the day there isn't that much difference between all of them. They where all better than exchanging cash at the official bureaux de change.I got a Revolut visa now too. Visa worked anywhere. But of course the fees are steep and the exchange rate is bad too. Revolut should cut the fees two thirds in comparison of a cash withdrawal with my regular Visa. Good enough for me.
La Buse.
Who enjoys a the du vanille at Chez Immanoela. Great view. Pleasant climate. No traffic noise. No pollution.
Member #4673
12-18-19, 07:39
Arrived to ivato and asked 2 for month visa and got refused.
Earlier this year I got 2 month in Ivato. Now not.
Took a flight to Nosy and ask police about visa extension. They said I need to bring documents no issue.
Taxi from airport to helle ville was 5 k for Expert using a trick. Then 3 k Taxi Collective to main action ambatoloaka.
My route this time is two month Nosy plus Ambanja and Ambilombe.
Why I cancel Toliara? I was tuning for route efficiency and whether. Toliara too hot now.
From now I report on girls only.
I sort of resigned myself to spend Christmas in this town. The great thing is the very pleasant climate. Gentle hills with houses tucked on steep hills. Basically you can divide Fianar in 3 parts. The lower town which includes the business district with the bustling markets. Not the nicest place to be in. Loads of beggars ply their trade including small kids in ragged clothing. Mangy street dogs. Noise. Open overflowing smelly sewers.
The upper part of town including the town hall some banks and some good restos and the usually wide avenue built by the French colonisers is a lot nicer.
On top of it all is the Old town. Haute ville. Very pleasant great vistas over the valley with a smattering if christian churches perched on top of the hill. Est. 1859.
I'll follow on a night live report and recommended lodgings and eateries soon.
I've seen a few beauties but in general Betsileos are rather on the uglier side. Short stocky.
La Buse.
Hi Tailpipe, Neddy69 and other seniors;.
Do you recommend to change Euros to Ariary at Tana airport (or any other fx shop at the city) and then deposit the Ariaries to MVola (of Telma) etc? I assume this method costs only about 1% MVola commission. Is there any other commission (around 2. 5%) during the exchange process?
I have both Visa & MC cards from my banks that are first converting Euros to US Dollars, and then to the required currency (MGA etc.).
So using a debit card (or a credit card) does not sound a good solution for me.
(BTW, I RTTF) Thanks in advance for your contributions.
Hi Tailpipe, Neddy69 and other seniors;.
Do you recommend to change Euros to Ariary at Tana airport (or any other fx shop at the city) and then deposit the Ariaries to MVola (of Telma) etc? I assume this method costs only about 1% MVola commission. Is there any other
commission (around 2. 5%) during the exchange process?
I have both Visa & MC cards from my banks that are first converting Euros to US Dollars, and then to the required currency (MGA etc.).
So using a debit card (or a credit card) does not sound a good solution for me.
(BTW, I RTTF) Thanks in advance for your contributions.Forget the cash. Bad exchange rate. Use a multicurrency card like Revolut. You can switch all major currencies ie. Deposit dollars. And pull out Ariary from the ATM at midmarket rates. IMO cash I use only in countries with a black market rate like Angola, Ethiopia or Nigeria.
Get rid of these useless bankcards. Most merchants accept cash only anyway. Its not Kenya where you can use Mpesa at every street corner.
La Buse.
Always take a couple of 100 euro notes emergency cash. ATM at the airport are sometimes empty or people upon arrival are pulling all the cash out..I always change 100 euros cash to have enough money to get taxi to town...
Arrived to ivato and asked 2 for month visa and got refused.
Earlier this year I got 2 month in Ivato. Now not.
Took a flight to Nosy and ask police about visa extension. They said I need to bring documents no issue.
Taxi from airport to helle ville was 5 k for Expert using a trick. Then 3 k Taxi Collective to main action ambatoloaka.
My route this time is two month Nosy plus Ambanja and Ambilombe.
Why I cancel Toliara? I was tuning for route efficiency and whether. Toliara too hot now.
From now I report on girls only.Good decision. Nosy Be should be still good even during rainy season. My mate lives here all year round. They don't seem to like your passport. LOL. But no problem to get extension in Nosy Be. Even me I am happy now to be stuck in Fianar. Probably best climate right now in the whole of mada. Girls? They are there. Like everywhere else.
Tulear now you have to go into hiding from 1100 o'clock till 1600.
Here 18 to 25 centigrade. As pleasant as it gets. Enjoy.
La Buse.
I personally like Dragon the'Or. Clean very quiet room for 35.000 AR. Right smack in Lower town. Plumbings a bit run down. But scalding hot water good pressure. And a very good firm mattress. And no noise... Also good Resto. Try the wok viande avec riz.
Dragon the'Or.
Fianarantsoa 301, Madagascar.
+261 32 02 301 31.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/58xZaMHqD2F6tqS89
Also very good location. Good rooms for 50 k AR Hotel Vannie.
Vannie Htel.
Descemle the Isaha, Fianarantsoa, Madagascar.
+261 34 09 301 99.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/tam8DCi3KD3rZAXZ8
Food. Very good and fresh croissants. Breakfast Victoria patisserie.
Victoria Htel.
Fianarantsoa, Madagascar.
+261 20 75 507 05.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/GUVBTAJF2LwK5Yr99
Hands down good resto with 2 locations Petit bouffe.
Hotel Restaurant Petite Bouffe.
Rue Ichouard Smadja, Fianarantsoa, Madagascar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/aYprmAWkEBvSLdNt8
In upper town good Wifi nice resto good patisserie upscale atmosphere Zomatel
Zomatel
Fianarantsoa, Madagascar
+261 20 75 507 97
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cWsJ7kGktdPs472n9
La Buse
Whose boite report will follow soon. FCE to Manakara still down. Don't come here now for a train ride. Except you catch a place on an overcrowded Draisine with attached jury rigged freight car. A sight to behold...
Member #4673
12-20-19, 08:39
My last trip to Nosy was in September 3 month ago so just a quick comparison.
Whether- Sep is better and cooler but Dec still is fine as its rain at night and not that much.
Tourist and Price- Definitely more tourists but far from full although harder to get discounts in hotels.
Girls- Again they are everywhere all type all age all color. Many light brown. If you can't get a girl here I suggest to drink a poison and avoid medical treatment. Nosy has the best accessible girls in Mada, I emphasize accessible because they are flooding the streets and you can get them.
Internet- Pretty fast non issue to play 1080 P youtube using WIFI.
Visa Extension- its sick easy. I did it in airport in less then 3 minutes. Nearly no documents needed. I took Bazaz from hell ville for 20 k both ways. Driver was waiting while I got my stamp and surprise I got back so fast. Price is 140 k for one month extension or 160 k for two month.
Gym- Shit place opposite Taxi Be-they have dual price for tourist and citizens. Thanks but no thanks.
Coffee- best place for coffee and Yogurt is here https://goo.gl/maps/KgekQHB5UVby8Qz16 this is in the center of daytime action. Capuchino is 3 k.
Hell Ville- Did mongering tour and got some girls numbers but nothing to write home about Better to focus Dar es Salaam. But I like to explore there.
La Buse.
Who think that Nosy is currently the best SSS destination in the world. Sea, Sex, Sun.
First of all. Don't come to Fianar primarily to get laid. Can you get laid? Absolutely. Basically night life centers around 2 areas.
Area1 around Jax and the close by the Station Taxi brousse.
Area2 around the disco of Soafia. That is far off and has been surveyed by me only in daylight. If I come around I'll report.
The only option at night time is taxi. The tariff starts at 5000. As my hotel is in walking distance of Jax not a problem. I'll not write too much as most has been said already.
I started at New Hotel. Mostly young gasy lads in there nursing on their second or third beer. Generally the drunk gasy male is peaceful. Just some get obnoxious and want to be best friend with vazaha. Best to play along a bit. On the back of New Hotel there is the ST rooms with some girls to shag on premises. Thanks but no thanks. I'll leave that to the gasy guys. Apparently a quickie goes in there for 5000 AR. Go figure.
So I transferred ops to Jax. Good atmosphere. Gasy and international Dance Hall is on just as La Buse likes it. I parked myself outside on the small balcony overlooking the traffic flow to the toilets. Perfect vantage point to prey on chicas.
A bunch of obnoxious gasy boys tried to be good friends. Offering to hook me up. And get a cut of course. The 2 bouncers took care of them in no time and kicked their asses out of the club.
Night live starts comparably early and by 1000 pm the club is bustling with about 20 girls to take out. One small cotiere the best looking of the mostly Betsileo chic's was selected. I bought us another THB GM. First drink was 5000 include cover charge second was 4000. That keeps most of the gasy boys out as there is mandatory consumption and the beer is cheaper in New hotel...
I had another gasy a..hole interjecting... I actually physically pushed him off the dancefloor as he interfered with me grind my toliara chic down. He offered his translation service as the chic spoke no francais only oui... Who cares.
After a lapdance I just pointed with my thumb to the exit. No need for an extended conversation. LOL. The gasy pain in da neck shadowed us to the Dragon. Who cares. Maybe he wanted to bed her. Tough luck mate...
Time to unbox my 2019 early Christmas present.
Flawless tight body. Perky B cups well formed in my hand. Tight tiny ass. Ya. Toliara chicks rock. And braids down to the ass. Ticks all my boxes.
After an extensive DATY at the superwet pussy I slided in my rock hard dick in lazy doggy. Oui oui oui. LOL. Perfect french. Superwet and tight snatch. I shot 3 loads a la nature.
Don't forget. You pay them to get rid of them in the morning. I thought being in the deepest province 40k is an above average contribution. But sign and body language showed that she expects an additional banknote. Another 10k did the trick. And a big happy smile ran over her face.
Hey its Christmas!
La Buse
Who just booked on Cotisse Premium back to Tana for 42k...
What can you do in Fianar during the day? I found a number of places where you can idle have an espresso or tea. I call them my oasis where you can get away from the daily grind of pushy street vendors, Taxi Be who try to run you over, persistent beggars, open holes washed out from the crumbling tarmac, the dust, the sleet, toxic fumes, fine ground dust etc etc etc.
Oasis No1:
My favourite. Beautiful garden.
Tsara Guest House.
Lot I and 15 Ambatolahikosoa Fianarantsoa, 301, Madagascar.
+261 32 05 516 12.
https://maps.google.com/?cid=4242132482812159865
Oasis no 2.
Cheapest beer and snacks best place to nurse on your beer late afternoon. Big shady terrace:
Chez Ninie.
Fianarantsoa, Madagascar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/stA7WJdZb3ohFDhz5
Oasis No.3
Good espresso nice view nice cakes:
Building.
My Places Building.
Ge0:8 bAM_8 KLIt / Building.
http://ge0.me/8bAM_8KLIt/Building
I found also IMO very good spanky new accommodation. Great rain water showers for 50k. In spitting distance from Jax. Highly recommended!
RANJALIA Hôtel
Lot E 021/3702 Bis Ambalapaiso Fianarantsoa MG 301, Fianarantsoa, Madagascar
+261 20 75 509 40
https://maps.app.goo.gl/dwpS2gfqMGjPF5Ga6
Tonga Soa
La Buse
Merry Christmas and happy mongering to all members!
I came back last week from 5 weeks in Madagascar. I have been to Nosy Be and Toamasina. Nosy Be was very disappointing to me. There is a nice beach but in the evening there is not much to do. There is actually only 1 street with 2 bars. When you are there for a week you know almost all women. Then I flew via Tana to Toamasina. Toamasine is a big city with a lot of choice of girls. There are several good restaurants and hotels. I plan to go to Toamasina for 4 or 5 months after the summer. My plan is to rent a studio or apartment. Are there members here who know where to rent these houses for a good price? Thanks in advance for the effort.
I came back last week from 5 weeks in Madagascar. I have been to Nosy Be and Toamasina. Nosy Be was very disappointing to me. There is a nice beach but in the evening there is not much to do. There is actually only 1 street with 2 bars. When you are there for a week you know almost all women. Then I flew via Tana to Toamasina. Toamasine is a big city with a lot of choice of girls. There are several good restaurants and hotels. I plan to go to Toamasina for 4 or 5 months after the summer. My plan is to rent a studio or apartment. Are there members here who know where to rent these houses for a good price? Thanks in advance for the effort.First of all. The maximum permitted stay is 3 months in Madagascar. After that its illegal. Usually you get bored out of your mind after a month. LOL. There is serviced apartments. I checked them out. Good standard. The problem mostly fully booked.
https://www.booking.com/hotel/mg/la-creole.fr.html
Alternative. Make a long time deal with a hotel a knock down prices. There is not a lot to do in the evening in Tamatave too. And its dangerous walking after nightfall. See if you last three months. LOL.
And there is only 3 good months weather wise. September to November. Low humidity. Low rainfall.
La Buse.
A week in Nosy Be and you claim to have fucked all the women. Maybe all you did was standing in front of Taxi Be... You didn't look properly mate. There is 100's. Go to Tati Chris. There's a 100 alone there. LOL.
First of all. The maximum permitted stay is 3 months in Madagascar. After that its illegal. Usually you get bored out of your mind after a month. LOL. There is serviced apartments. I checked them out. Good standard. The problem mostly fully booked.
https://www.booking.com/hotel/mg/la-creole.fr.html
Alternative. Make a long time deal with a hotel a knock down prices. There is not a lot to do in the evening in Tamatave too. And its dangerous walking after nightfall. See if you last three months. LOL.
And there is only 3 good months weather wise. September to November. Low humidity. Low rainfall.
La Buse.
A week in Nosy Be and you claim to have fucked all the women. Maybe all you did was standing in front of Taxi Be... You didn't look properly mate. There is 100's. Go to Tati Chris. There's a 100 alone there. LOL.Thank you Neddy for your response. I know I can only stay in Madagascar for 3 months. After 2 months I go to Mauritius and back to get a new visa. I have looked at the Booking.com site but I am looking for a house for 300 or 400 euros a month. I will look further. Haha no I didn't fuck all the girls in Nosy Be. I wish I was that strong. I just wanted to say that there is more available in Tamatave. Thanks for your reply. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Thank you Neddy for your response. I know I can only stay in Madagascar for 3 months. After 2 months I go to Mauritius and back to get a new visa. I have looked at the Booking.com site but I am looking for a house for 300 or 400 euros a month. I will look further. Haha no I didn't fuck all the girls in Nosy Be. I wish I was that strong. I just wanted to say that there is more available in Tamatave. Thanks for your reply. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
First of all. The maximum permitted stay is 3 months in Madagascar. After that its illegal. Usually you get bored out of your mind after a month. LOL. There is serviced apartments. I checked them out. Good standard. The problem mostly fully booked.
https://www.booking.com/hotel/mg/la-creole.fr.html
Alternative. Make a long time deal with a hotel a knock down prices. There is not a lot to do in the evening in Tamatave too. And its dangerous walking after nightfall. See if you last three months. LOL.
And there is only 3 good months weather wise. September to November. Low humidity. Low rainfall.
La Buse.
A week in Nosy Be and you claim to have fucked all the women. Maybe all you did was standing in front of Taxi Be... You didn't look properly mate. There is 100's. Go to Tati Chris. There's a 100 alone there. LOL..
Ohhh yeah. I read nearly everything here und this is for me the big secret.
I know kampala and mombasa (look to my big reports) but I don't know how could I compare it with madagascar in the point of quantity. There are more girls available in tamatava / tana / tulear / nosy be? Will I know every sexy girl, after one week? This citys are really smal (exception tana).
Madagascar is on the first position of my todo list. I love easy cheap mongering, no tourist places and adventures.
Since most of them are all open for some business-fun.
Ohhh yeah. I read nearly everything here und this is for me the big secret.
I know kampala and mombasa (look to my big reports) but I don't know how could I compare it with madagascar in the point of quantity. There are more girls available in tamatava / tana / tulear / nosy be? Will I know every sexy girl, after one week? This citys are really smal (exception tana).
Madagascar is on the first position of my todo list. I love easy cheap mongering, no tourist places and adventures.Tamatave 300.000 inhabitants.
Toliara 156.000 inhabitants.
Even Nosy Be 73.000 inhabitants (2013).
How much pussy do you need. You'll not finish in your life time.
La Buse.
The problem here is not the pussy. Nobody talks to you. Many girls bad or no french. Unless you're french hardly any expat will talk to you. The problem is here to find something to do when you're not shagging. Not a problem in Kenya or Uganda even Rwanda where most people speak English and you can have some kind of conversation. It has been written many times here in the forum. You gonna be a stray dog...
Tamatave 300.000 inhabitants.
The problem here is not the pussy. Nobody talks to you. Many girls bad or no french. Unless you're french hardly any expat will talk to you. The problem is here to find something to do when you're not shagging. . It has been written many times here in the forum. You gonna be a stray dog...You have to see the positive side of this: the typical sex tourist from the "Land of the free" hardly can't speak French and by that don't consider Mada as a fun country. Just read the few comments on the Philippine addicted boards. And that keeps Mada free of foreign owned bars acting as brothels, pimping their girls.
AttilaTheHun
12-27-19, 17:20
It seems that English only speaking expats are like "fish out of water" there or as you said they are like 'Stray dogs". French expects don't speak English or they just don't want to speak English? Do you see any American / Aussie / Canadian expats in Mada Neddy?
You have to see the positive side of this: the typical sex tourist from the "Land of the free" hardly can't speak French and by that don't consider Mada as a fun country. Just read the few comments on the Philippine addicted boards. And that keeps Mada free of foreign owned bars acting as brothels, pimping their girls.I am not worried in the slightest. This country is not user friendly. Bad shit is flowing through the air. Dust with all kinds of bacteria you don't want to know about. Foreign owned?? If they make any money there will be a hostile take over by the powers to be. Without any compensation. Except 9 mm Para... Go figure why this country attracts no foreign investment. Except the Triades or the Mafia for money laundering.
Be happy you escape with your life.
La Buse.
AttilaTheHun
12-27-19, 17:47
You have to see the positive side of this: the typical sex tourist from the "Land of the free" hardly can't speak French and by that don't consider Mada as a fun country. Just read the few comments on the Philippine addicted boards. And that keeps Mada free of foreign owned bars acting as brothels, pimping their girls.Most "bars" are not owned by whites in the Philippines. They are own by locals and Chinese. Most sex tourist are not white either. That is true in the largest places including Angeles and Cebu and elsewhere. The largest bars in Cebu for example are catering to Koreans exclusively. It's not about people of the "Land of the free" somehow into owning bars and running prostitution. It's the locals who set it up this way and the Kanos / Aussies are just getting a slice of the pie catering to their own. And the bars tend to be smaller and low profile compare to the rest. It seems to me that in Mada they just don't have a tradition of pimping due to the lack of sex tourist compared to the Philippines. I have no doubt the locals would start organizing the industry if the number of sex tourist would raise to similar levels of he Philippines'.
Most "bars" are not owned by whites in the Philippines. They are own by locals and Chinese. Most sex tourist are not white either. That is true in the largest places including Angeles and Cebu and elsewhere. The largest bars in Cebu for example are catering to Koreans exclusively. It's not about people of the "Land of the free" somehow into owning bars and running prostitution. It's the locals who set it up this way and the Kanos / Aussies are just getting a slice of the pie catering to their own. And the bars tend to be smaller and low profile compare to the rest. It seems to me that in Mada they just don't have a tradition of pimping due to the lack of sex tourist compared to the Philippines. I have no doubt the locals would start organizing the industry if the number of sex tourist would raise to similar levels of he Philippines'.Same here. Everywhere in Africa 95% of the market is locals. Even Madagascar there's probably a couple of dozen white mongers in Tana right now.
There is no need for pimps. In Africa you just smile, wave and talk to any girl you like. There is some gasy or other african men try to hook you up of course But that's more family oriented business. Really no need in subsaharan Africa for middle men. There is a few white Europeans they run businesses like bars and restos here. No barfine. No African in his right mind would pay barfine. Like Manson. Many girls don't even have the money to buy drinks. It will never work in Africa.
But to survive here on business you need to be a hard nosed individual with several decades of experience. 90% who try business in Africa end up losing their last shirt. And now its not like 30 years ago when these people started. Many want to sell. Work permits were cheap back than. Now most African nations charge moon prices for permits. A good country to look at which has an open door policy is Rwanda.
La Buse.
Who's off to the flesh pots of Uganda in January.
It seems that English only speaking expats are like "fish out of water" there or as you said they are like 'Stray dogs". French expects don't speak English or they just don't want to speak English? Do you see any American / Aussie / Canadian expats in Mada Neddy?Yes there are. But very thin on the ground. There's south Africans, Canadians, Australians working in the mining industry. But since for example the mine in moramanga was bought by South Koreans they'll start bringing in their own people. And more Chinese are filtering in. But thanks god not in great numbers. The best place or almost the only place in Mada I know of is Sarkys Bar in Tamatave. About the only place where you can get a real English/South African braai breakfast. Yummy. The rest is coffee and croissants...
I know a number of german speaking expats. They're absolutely hard nosed guys. Exbuyers of coloured stones or Bar owners with 30+ years in Mada. I know of exactly one English guy running a guest house in Tulear. And an American girl running a dive shop in Mangily. That's about it. The rest will be missionaries or Peace corps.
The biggest chance of meeting will be Tana. But 90% Expats are French. Some Italians. A few Germans Swiss and Austrians. Spread out all over the island.
La Buse.
Yes there are. But very thin on the ground. There's south Africans, Canadians, Australians working in the mining industry. But since for example the mine in moramanga was bought by South Koreans they'll start bringing in their own people. And more Chinese are filtering in. But thanks god not in great numbers. The best place or almost the only place in Mada I know of is Sarkys Bar in Tamatave. About the only place where you can get a real English/South African braai breakfast. Yummy. The rest is coffee and croissants...
I know a number of german speaking expats. They're absolutely hard nosed guys. Exbuyers of coloured stones or Bar owners with 30+ years in Mada. I know of exactly one English guy running a guest house in Tulear. And an American girl running a dive shop in Mangily. That's about it. The rest will be missionaries or Peace corps.
The biggest chance of meeting will be Tana. But 90% Expats are French. Some Italians. A few Germans Swiss and Austrians. Spread out all over the island.
La Buse.I was surprised by the large number of English speaking tourists when I was in Tulear and Mangily a few months ago.
Especially in Mangily many Americans in the hotels on the beach. Most of them on a tour or on a beach vacation or even honeymoon.
I never met Americans alone on holiday to chase the girls.
Before my journey I expected that region to be far more remote from the rest of the world than it actually was.
Even the road from Tulear to Mangily was from an exceptional quality.
Speaking some French is the important key.
When I was in Antsirabe I witnessed the " hookers union " . About 15 Girls got out of a buss, made a circle and one was telling them facts. Prices and so.
At first I thought its a hen night, but the locals I was with explained it to me. Would not have taken long one could make it out him self since minutes after the hens were on the street smiling at you.
One evening I was in " La terasse " at Manakara, Dady and mommy was there with there two innocence daughters like they told me. One of the two sweetis was of light color the other dark as the night.
I sat to them offered some beer, some food and had a ball first with the ever so elegant mummy. I did not bother grim Dady. Took one of the daughters for a wild dance, got the rhythm and left.
Speaking some french is the important key.
When I was in Antsirabe I witnessd the " hookers union " . About 15 Girls got out of a buss, made a circle and one was telling them facts. Prices and so.
At first I thought its a hen night, but the locals I was with explained it to me. Would not have taken long one could make it out him self since minutes after the hens were on the street smiling at you.
One evening I was in " La terasse " at Manakara, Dady and mommy was there with there two innocence daughters like they told me. One of the two sweetis was of light color the other dark as the night.
I sat to them offerd some beer, some food and had a ball first with the ever so elegant mummy. I dit not bother grim Dady. Took one of the daughters for a wild dance, got the rhythm and left.
I was surprised by the large number of English speaking tourists when I was in Tulear and Mangily a few months ago.
Especially in Mangily many Americans in the hotels on the beach. Most of them on a tour or on a beach vacation or even honeymoon.
I never met Americans alone on holiday to chase the girls.
Before my journey I expected that region to be far more remote from the rest of the world than it actually was.
Even the road from Tulear to Mangily was from an exceptional quality.Yes. I didn't mention the US and UK lemur lovers. Of course. Since the movie Madagascar they find it on the map. No use to talk to them. They live in their bubble being whisked thru Mada on hired 4x4's and domestic flights, wasting lots of money on overpriced tour packages hawkishly watched over by their drivers, lest they shop somewhere they don't get their cut. Absolutely clueless about the life of the ordinary gasy people... Tour operators love them. LOL.
And the road to Mangily was the last one newly paved 2 years ago. The newest road in Mada... That's why. And of course if you fly in on Tsaradia its not as remote... LOL.
Go back on RN7 like me yesterday. Pothole slalom. Swept away bridges... Or take Cotisse to Morondave. Or the Camion brousse to Manja... Then you'll experience what Madagascar is like...
La Buse
I do think any non French speaking punter should seriously consider if Mada really is the right destination to travel to. As has been said before you are going to be largely isolated. Only a very small percentage Malagasy speak half decent English. Nearly all mongerers are French / Italian most of the others are also from non English speaking countries. I met exactly 2 single British punters in 6 weeks and it was clear they where really happy they had someone to talk to.
Yes some tourists that don't speak a word of French have liked Madagascar but they are mostly African veterans who can score blindly like Pokeris who is the goalgetter of the Africa Cup. If you are a bit unsure about your game / experience or you need conversation / company than I would think twice before travelling to Madagascar.
I do think any non French speaking punter should seriously consider if Mada really is the right destination to travel to. As has been said before you are going to be largely isolated. Only a very small percentage Malagasy speak half decent English. Nearly all mongerers are French / Italian most of the others are also from non English speaking countries. I met exactly 2 single British punters in 6 weeks and it was clear they where really happy they had someone to talk to.
Yes some tourists that don't speak a word of French have liked Madagascar but they are mostly African veterans who can score blindly like Pokeris who is the goalgetter of the Africa Cup. If you are a bit unsure about your game / experience or you need conversation / company than I would think twice before travelling to Madagascar.Spot on analysis. My French was non-existent 5 years ago. You need to make an effort. Next Kiswahili. French you need everywhere in Africa. 2 thirds were French colonies. But even if you speak French don't expect to have decent conversations with french Nationals. They like to hang out with their own. Except maybe Parisians who speak proper French. Or Alsatians and Belgians. Southern French? They speak gibberish not French. Actually the best conversation I have with French speaking malgache. Same level simple French conversation. The girls. You don't need French really. Many from la brousse 0. 0 French except Bonjour. But make no mistake. They know how to count. Hahahaha.
La buse.
Who found some English speaking malgache mainly in Fianarantsoa. Means place of good learning for a reason. And in Antsirabe.
Albert9989
12-28-19, 14:25
Hehe, what do you have with southern french? They don't speak french may be?
Haha, matter of accent may be.
But everywhere in mada french, even southern is well understood. Or quite well as for some they don't even speak french, only Malagasy.
Recently came back from my fifth trip but first in 3 years. Mada hasn't changed much so I must have because I used to find it charming in a broken-down backwater kinda way but I was bored íand Diego, Majunga, Tamatave & Tulear after a few days. The first three have port areas that are crumbling very atmospherically but you can only wander round them so many times. I was even finding the French food tedious by the end.
As Neddy &TP say, if you're not French or (Italian in NB) you're always The Outsider and the locals grasp of French is often worse than mine. I had texts saying Bonwi (Bon nuit) & Alamezo (A la maison) plus 4 pousse pousse guys in 3 cities didn't know what Air Madagascar meant.
I generally avoid Tana but took drunken civilians home on consecutive night which made me feel better about Tana and me.
Will I go back? Probably not but would still recommend it to a first timer because it's different. Tamatave is less dozy than the others and Tulear / Mangily is a good double bill.
Y
Go back on RN7 like me yesterday. Pothole slalom. Swept away bridges... Or take Cotisse to Morondave. Or the Camion brousse to Manja... Then you'll experience what Madagascar is like...
La BuseOr go to Ft Dauphin: accessible by flight or 600 km on sand piste by camion brousse, a 2 to 4 days trip. A pirate harbour, forgotten by the world, if there would not be a mine nearby. Its a rotten town but for mongers who are not afraid of a challenge its Mada-pure.
The Gasy are very different to us.
In one of the Icecream-shops I made a buy and walked with the Ice-cream in the cone out to the street. Yes, I got a spoon with it wich I did not use.
I felt instantly everyone is staring at me, so what?
Two girls came towards me and as they sah me they started giggle to. Hang on. To you like a Icecream to? " Now! We like the licking! " OK. Off we go.
But Ice-cream in Mada was in general awful.
AttilaTheHun
12-29-19, 01:56
Same here. Everywhere in Africa 95% of the market is locals. Even Madagascar there's probably a couple of dozen white mongers in Tana right now.That's all? A couple of dozen in Tana? Then it's more about 99% locals. Same in the Philippines even thou there are more puti (white) mongers but if you compare their number to the locals. ? Maybe whites are more visible but that's all. I was dating a girl from Bacolod a fairly large city in the Visayans some years ago and some of her friends warned her about me once they found out that I was from the USA. They told her to be careful with me because Americans are responsible for a lot of prostitution including underage prostitution in the Philippines and I might be a rapist too. I took her to "Golden Field Bacolod Entertainment Center" where all the girl bars are concentrated so she can see for herself how many white colonizers are there. But we didn't see any so I had her talk to the doormen and also the mamason in all the bars just to make sure. I really dragged her through it. The common reaction she got was a head shake with a smile: No whites! All locals and some Korean and Chinese. That convinced her. There is one more thing: Most of the underage prostitution in the Philippines by foreigners is done by Japanese and by far. They just keep a low profile stay out of sight and organized usually in high end hotels. They don't get a bad press neither the Korean sex tourist even though they dominate the market. It seems to me that the media and the leftist are just using the West's self hating "blame whitey for everything" narrative for their own agenda to push their religion of victimalogy. Do you feel some of that also in Madagascar and other African countries?
After an ok and surprisingly quick 10 hours pothole filled ride from Fianar Cotisse Premium dropped me off exactly at 1800 at the station. I wish Premium was available everywhere. Worth every penny.
As we approached Tana the city showed itself from its lovely side. I was almost shocked how pleasant Analekely was. Light traffic only half the street hawkers. Only beggars as obnoxious as ever. Sunshine. A breeze cleared out all the smog and pollution.
Evenings. I was surprised by the number of police patrols out there. They patrol in groups of 6. Lots of signs of improvement. New garbage trucks new Fire engines. The new president seems to rake in Donations.
Went to Glacier last night. Its one of last authentic joints on earth I think. An institution. If you have not been at Glacier you haven't been in Mada. A microcosm of oddballs, tired ass hookers, gasy playboys, retired French mongers. There's a blind man hanging out there and a Chinese monger. Nothing has changed. Thanks god. Except the prices. Seems to be a new manager. A hilarious gasy band was on. I'd say a mix of Buena Vista Social Club and the Blues Brothers. Three blind guys with cool Ray Bans rocking away gasy songs. One guitarrist had all his front teeth missing. A buyer's market. 30 chicas and maybe 4 mongers on the ground. I sort of got side tracked by a very slim chic. Beautiful face. Took her home. Turned out to be a complete dud. Sucked out tits. Oh well. Doggy was bearable. After the deed I kicked her out straight away with 60 k. Yuck.
La Buse.
Who'll take a Street Walker next time. Some Lookers.
The Gasy are very different to us.
In one of the Icecream-shops I made a buy and walked with the Ice-cream in the cone out to the street. Yes, I got a spoon with it wich I did not use.
I felt instantly everyone is staring at me, so what?
Two girls came towards me and as they sah me they started giggle to. Hang on. To you like a Icecream to? " Now! We like the licking! " OK. Off we go.
But Ice-cream in Mada was in general awful.Of course mate. Gasy Ice Cream. There's Italians. My top ice cream parlor is Gelateria Italiana in Tamatave.
La Buse.
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