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Amadeuss

05-05-12, 15:28

I have plan to go to Mahajunga and Diego, rent a motorbike on place and go to visit the small towns arround. Do you think it's a good idea?John: got to disagree with your statement of danger and unavailability.

Rom: I did rent motobikes all over Mada: 650 cc Transalp as well 125 cc Scooters / Naked bikes and a 350 cc Quad.

In Tana you can find 2 companies renting out the big ones: 650. 1000 cc. Google them. Easy to find. They charge you 40. 50 EU / day. Its even more expensive then a car with driver. I did it once: Tana. Antsirabe. Mahanoro and return in a week. Challenging! Great winding road but riding max 250 km and you will call it a day.

I did rent a Quad to explore the spiny forest near Tulear. Also 40 EU / day. Good for short distance. BUT. It sucks fuel. 10 l / 100 km and the tank takes only 9 l. There are 2 companies in Tulear on the net renting out Quads.

I did rent a scooter in Diego. The place was at the end of the mainroad up the hill where the roundabout is. Its a restaurant with bikes parked in front for rent. I paid 20. 000 MGA / day and did explore the beach up to Sakalava. Great experience.

I did rent a China-made 150 cc from a local guy by talking to him on the road in Fiana. Offered him 100. 000 MGA for 4 days and he agreed happily. Almost wanted to throw in his young wife as companion for my trip.

I did rent a 175 cc Cross bike in Nosy Be. There are many places along the main road. I paid 25. 000 MGA / day and did cruise over the whole island.

I never came across any threatening situation in regards of riding the bikes. But since young years I do ride bikes all sizes also in not so well developed countries like Romania or Serbia.

On the opportunities to hook up a Malagasy along the road? Well. If you can hook up a torte in your home-country, you can do even much better in Mada. Opportunities everywhere.

Member #4178

05-05-12, 16:15

John: got to disagree with your statement of danger and unavailability.Unavailability? Did I said that?

Mada is a very dangerous place now for the last two years. Tourist killed and rubbed all the time now. Things change.

Please refer to:

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/sub-saharan-africa/madagascar

"The weakening of government authority and rising unemployment, muggings and robberies are occurring with increasing frequency, not only in urban areas but in nature reserves and on beaches. There have also been increasing numbers of robberies from Bush taxi passengers. You should keep clear of any street disturbances. You should not leave your bags unattended, or go near unattended bags. You should keep large amounts of money, jewellery, cameras and cell phones out of sight when walking in town centres. Avoid walking in city centres after dark.

There have been incidents of armed robbery in some National Parks.

You should also take sensible precautions in crowded areas such as street markets and airports, where pick-pocketing is common. You should also be cautious on beaches where there have been reports of attacks and robberies. You should avoid visiting them alone.

Safeguard valuables, important documents and cash. Deposit them in hotel safes, where practical. Keep copies of important documents, including passports, in a separate place to the documents themselves.

Vehicle theft and theft from cars has become more frequent during recent months."

Member #4178

05-05-12, 19:27

I am not sure where are the hottest girls in Mada, but this lady from Morandava fucked me like hell. When I have told her that I am going to leave to Diego she said " what time we are leaving".

I think that the girls in the south are more wild then the north. In the north they more civilized and polite. Don't take me too seriously, perhaps I am fantasizes because I want to feel again the wild south.

TigeDeJade

05-05-12, 23:04

Unavailability? Did I said that?

Mada is a very dangerous place now for the last two years. Tourist killed and rubbed all the time now. Things change.

Please refer to:

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/sub-saharan-africa/madagascar

"The weakening of government authority and rising unemployment, muggings and robberies are occurring with increasing frequency, not only in urban areas but in nature reserves and on beaches. There have also been increasing numbers of robberies from Bush taxi passengers. You should keep clear of any street disturbances. You should not leave your bags unattended, or go near unattended bags. You should keep large amounts of money, jewellery, cameras and cell phones out of sight when walking in town centres. Avoid walking in city centres after dark.

There have been incidents of armed robbery in some National Parks.

You should also take sensible precautions in crowded areas such as street markets and airports, where pick-pocketing is common. You should also be cautious on beaches where there have been reports of attacks and robberies. You should avoid visiting them alone.

Safeguard valuables, important documents and cash. Deposit them in hotel safes, where practical. Keep copies of important documents, including passports, in a separate place to the documents themselves.

Vehicle theft and theft from cars has become more frequent during recent months."I fully agree with JP.

For info a couple of French who were restaurant owners near TOLIARA, travelling alone with quad have just been killed with knives on the beach last week near TOLIARA (cf today : L'EXPRESS DE MADAGASCAR justice instruction is in process)

Why to behave foolishly when it is so easy to enjoy with a minimum of attention.

To go alone with a quad is foolish from my point of view.

Always better to rent a car with driver or (equivalent) hire a taxi: if there is any problem you will not be alone, with somebody speaking malagasy and the risks are lower.

Moreover the guy will know the places to avoid to remain safe.

Amadeuss

05-06-12, 11:50

Sorry guys. We need to agree to disagree.

My reply was related to the question of availability of motobikes and on the danger of riding it in the traffic and road conditions of Mada. I did it and do not consider myself as "crazy". Perhaps adventorus.

I did not refer to the general situation of safety as it was not the question asked. Both of you wrote very positive reports of your recent stay. And then by a sudden you come up with comments as if Mada is hell on earth. Strange.

On Mada safety: Yes, I've read about that murder. It was in a little town near Tulear. Reasons still unknown.

In LA area you had 189 homicides just within past 5 months.

http://projects.latimes.com/homicide/map/

And then in the small mongering community of Angeles City / Phils. Within this year 3 foreigners shot on open roadside. Not to talk about the many killings of foreigners still unsolved within past years in that shithole.

Go figure where its more dangerous to be on the road alone.

I think we all like Mada and we know its a developing country with all its typical setbacks and dangers. No need to be hypocryte about it, but be pragmatic and watch your back as in other similar countries.

Will it stop YOU to return back? I don't think so. I'll be back! Soon!

Romlepes

05-06-12, 17:00

Thanks Botaki6 for your point of view.

I didn't want to travel across the country with a motorbike, but just explore the places arround citys. I just think it's a good way to be free and stay close with the population and more particularly girls.

Vahaza Be

05-06-12, 23:05

An Indian merchant was killed (brutally) in Diego recently. A French ex-pat a few weeks before that. There is no functioning govt outside of Tana, and desperate people are taking advantage of the chaos and corruption. Even taxi-brousses traveling at night tend to caravan together in order to help limit the roadblocks and bandits.

Be careful and use common sense. If you are a loner, be extra cautious.

Vb

Alexsandro

06-12-12, 10:22

How is the situation about the police? Hassles and passport control? Monger's arrest? Etc?

Amadeuss

07-08-12, 06:15

How is the situation about the police? Hassles and passport control? Monger's arrest? Etc?No need for alarm, this island is not an international center of tourism, far from it. The prices are however higher than those on the mainland and are displayed in euros. Anyway, hassles if, are not any more than in Diego, or Tamatave or Tulear.

Member #4178

07-21-12, 12:14

The best monger hotel is vitasoa which recently appears in Google maps. Ask for Paul he works in the Restaurant belong to carol. (Its within the hotel compound). Paul can help with anything. Many girls are all over and all of them are free to adventure. Its a very small town so very soon you will get many friends. Some other nongers / expats are around the main coffee shop in the center.

Antalaha girls are more eager to jump to bed then the one from Sambava. Below are some photos from sambava but Antalaha is much better place to stay.

Member #4178

08-03-12, 13:19

Anyone remember what's gooing on as far as weather and rain in December or jan?

Saw the chart at wiki but real life experience is better.

Jp

Botaki

08-04-12, 15:15

Anyone remember what's gooing on as far as weather and rain in December or jan?My experience Jan / Feb:

Tana: pleasant, even warm at night that many SW's roam the roads.

Tulear: torching hot and dry.

Diego: 3 out of 5 days rain and wind.

Member #4178

08-08-12, 08:29

Off the topic, for anyone that liked my non-nude style photos stay tune to Thailand photo gallery.

The reason I mention it here is because we has some questions in the past where in mada we can meet Asian look girls.

Jp

Member #4178

08-17-12, 21:34

Be very careful, the room cleaners can get out of control.

Member #4178

08-17-12, 21:44

Be very careful, Hotel's room cleaners can get out of control.

Amadeuss

08-18-12, 12:52

Be very careful, Hotel's room cleaners can get out of control.Which hotel in Sambava (?) is that? Looks more like an appartement.

Would you rate Sambava better for SSS (sex-sun-surf) then Mahjunga or Morondava?

Member #4178

08-18-12, 13:35

Which hotel in Sambava (?) is that? Looks more like an appartement.

Would you rate Sambava better for SSS (sex-sun-surf) then Mahjunga or Morondava?Read my posts about Antalaha / Sambava / Morondava / Mahjunga.

Also I wrote a comparison small towns vs cities. Its apple to oranges both good.

Member #4178

08-18-12, 15:33

Looks more like an appartement.Yes and No. Many hotels in Mada's small towns has an apartment that the owners live there. Sometimes the owner is out of the country and in other case the owner is 40 years old Mada Lady that need to get fucked.

In both cases it is possible to get access to apartment and bed.

Member #4178

08-19-12, 18:25

Would you rate Sambava better for SSS (sex-sun-surf) then Mahjunga or Morondava?1. Best good looking girls can be found in Mahjunga. (but the city is too hot and accommodation is not so good value)

2. Easiest place to get girls for small beach towns: Antalaha.

3. Sun-surf: Mahjunga is a port city while Antalaha beach is nice. (Not as Sambava)

Antalaha is the best balance fore SSS with girls that looks as the photos I have posted. But if you are looking for a very sexy girls, Mahjunga is a winner. (not sure about Toamasina and Diego is faded and dangerous).

Check photos at afro-dating.

Amadeuss

08-21-12, 08:14

1. Not sure about Toamasina and Diego is faded and dangerous.

Check photos at afro-dating.Thanks for the statement. Agree on Diego. Although the 2 late night / early morning discos have a superb choice of filles. Toam is a harbour town with action, but no beach.

Didn't see much postings or details on Morondava?

Member #4178

08-21-12, 10:50

Didn't see much postings or details on Morondava?I have posted many photos and info from Morondava. Look again.

For me, flying all the way to Mada require finding some serious GFE sex bombs. I was frustrated by the low volume action at morondava and sambava but if you have time to kill then you can easily hang around there with the same girl for a whole week. The few girls I met at morondava were super eager. I also think that the south are more wild with less restrictions. Lawless Atmosphere.

Again, if you liked Diego girls then morondava will serve you well as far as quality.

The following photos, illustrates the morondava main concept: You and a girl alone at the beach just outside your hotel. Night-time absolutely nothing to do.

New disco is almost ready or ready now "moro9. Jpg" at the same place that the old one that is closed. Next to hotel les philaos

Member #4178

08-21-12, 20:08

From June 2012 edition of the lonely planet the nightlife section.

"Apart from hotel restaurants, bar-restau-rants, and the Bateau Ivre, Tamatave's sur-prisingly dynamic nightlife centres on a few

Swinging discos. A poll of their popularity, Courtesy of those who know best (eg pousse-pousse drivers) yields the following pecking Order:

1) City Pub (Blvd Joffre; hMon-Sat) ;

2) Pandora Station (Rte de l'Aéroport) ;

3) Ibiza Club (OffBlvd Joffre; hMon-Sat)

4) Queens Club (Blvd Joffre).

In our opinion, the large and well-ventilated Ibiza Club, which is only six months old, may soon push its way up the list."

I will check this info soon.

TigeDeJade

08-24-12, 23:53

Some of you congratulated me for my last report on TAMATAVE.

I confess that from my point of view it is the place in MADA where I found the most easily girls suiting to my desires:

I love them thin; I love them young; I love them sweet with no contest; I love them with tits not affected by motherhood, It is THE place where I find the most rapidly when I arrive my profile then stick to my gem. And in TAMATAVE it never took more than 2 days.

And I consider Betsimisaraka (ethny from south of TAMATAVE, to Sainte MARIE and VANILA area (ANTALAHA.) the most delightfully opened girls of MADA. Even if I experienced DIEGO, NOSY-BE, MAJUNGA, MORONDAVA, TOLIARA and that MADA as a whole is a monger paradise.

Each of us have our targets:

-some like as much girls as possible : very easy in TAMATAVE, lot of stuff in this category accustomed to boys changing every night and agreeing threesome;

-some like 3 holes: very easy in TAMATAVE, not all girls of course, but pick them especially in QUEEN'S and ask;

-some like romance or dancing girls, very easy in TAMATAVE.

Etc.

Personnally I stick to sensual pleasure usually with the one I detected and I keep her afterwards for all may stay 10/20 days. Or more for further visits.

And several years ago I had business in TANA. Accordingly I just asked from Europe, by phone or email the girl I enjoyed the previous year to take taxi-brousse to go to TANA to join me. And she did as she knew me and trusted me. Of course I reimbursed her taxi brousse afterwards. As I had my favoured hotel in TANA I could fax beforehand to accept her before my arrival directly to my bed (with her name on I'd) , taxi brousse arriving around 5pm in TANA; put her in my bed and AIR FRANCE flight around 11pm and taxi around midnight in center town (wonderful souvenir of such experience with Florencia below; I did same with Nicole. But from Sainte Marie more complicated because of sea too rough inducing delays; and with Lisette. But unfortunately when she arrived I had an asthma crisis and be obliged to shorten our idyl)

For amateurs below pics of my past girls from TAMATAVE (+ Elinah in 2012).

(In 2003 I found Nicole in Sainte-Marie but she was from TAMATAVE)

Herebelow various pics from 2003 to 2009 exclusively of betsimisaraka girls from TAMATAVE

Found Nicole: in night club just opened in Sainte Marie.

Found Bellah; Florencia; Lisette in Friday / Saturday night QUEEN'S.

(Elinah of 2012 cf recent post in PANDORA.

In line with the wih of one of you

TigeDeJade

08-24-12, 23:59

Additional pics of my previous report.

Member #4178

08-25-12, 08:02

Remained me Morondava 6 years ago, loaded with non-pro to semi. The girl with a cap came to my hotel and offered me a "massage". I snapped a photo with my phone and said "next-time".

My impression is that girls from Antalaha are looking for fun while in Sambava there are more serious to get a boyfriend. If you want to pay to be on the safe side then the price may be 10-20K Ar for the night but in reality they will not leave the hotel that soon.

Ripple67

08-25-12, 20:18

Hi John,

Florence, Bella and Nichole are gorgeous. Congrats. My next holdat destination is quite obvious.

Maybe you should work for the Mady tourist board.

Many thanks for your great contributions to this site.

Ripple

TigeDeJade

08-25-12, 23:06

It was in the past but could be today: MADA is changing very slow.

PATRICIA was very photogenic, but in bed my girls from TAMATAVE were best!

After some days, PATRICIA asked me if I might offer her a TV? Irrelevant!

Other girls of MAJUNGA were also asking for additional money for their mother etc.

Unusual in TAMATAVE

TigeDeJade

08-25-12, 23:21

The year after, I spent time on the beach and in bed with this girl LORIN (and some others no pics).

After a pleasant lunch with some good white malagasy wine, I remember she had one of the most violent orgasm I get from a girl (with impossible to come again in her exploded sex in the following half hour)

But less sophisticated than TAMATAVE betsimisaraka girls.

In my experience, in MAJUNGA, sakalava girls are pros; I never met fresh new babe with ho experience in vazahas; or even semi pros (a discovery: one girl seemed innocent. But in bed appeared as strongly educated by a previous boyfriend vazaha in fist fucking!)

Tmat 4636

08-26-12, 00:47

Member #4178

08-26-12, 16:06

And I consider Betsimisaraka (ethny from south of TAMATAVE, to Sainte MARIE and VANILA area (ANTALAHA.) the most delightfully opened girls of MADA. Even if I experienced DIEGO, NOSY-BE, MAJUNGA, MORONDAVA, TOLIARA and that MADA as a whole is a monger paradise.Great photos and info. We have a new ambassador to TAMATAVE.

I tend to fully agree that Eastern route of madagascar is the overall best I ever experiences. From TAMATAVE to ANTALAHA. I have heard that Maroantsetra is a party town but when I was there it was rainy as hell so I bypassed it shortly.

Member #4178

08-26-12, 16:14

And I consider Betsimisaraka (ethny from south of TAMATAVE, to Sainte MARIE and VANILA area (ANTALAHA.) the most delightfully opened girls of MADA. Even if I experienced DIEGO, NOSY-BE, MAJUNGA, MORONDAVA, TOLIARA and that MADA as a whole is a monger paradise.Great photos and info. We have a new ambassador to TAMATAVE.

I tend to fully agree that Eastern route of madagascar is the overall best I ever experiences. I have heard that Maroantsetra is a party town but when I was there it was rainy as hell so I bypassed it shortly.

Vittu

08-26-12, 19:41

l will be ion Pattaya next week and for sur will see the MADA girls as l know the bar they operate from.please give me a hint. I'll be in Pattaya in November but only for one day.

PolyOrchid

08-27-12, 23:55

What incredible potpourri of beautiful Mada girls. Thanks for posting. You and John Palmer will have me in Mada by next year. I am now living in Dominican Republic and lovely black women but so many are large: large butts, large breasts, etc. The girls of Mada seem to possess the fineness and daintyness of Asians but with the beautiful color. And their exuberance, love of life, and great spirits shine through so much in the photos you both post.

Merci Mille Beaucoup!

Vahaza Be

08-29-12, 15:34

http://allafrica.com/stories/201208281106.html

You can thank the dysfunctional, corrupt government. Silver lining?

Member #4178

08-29-12, 18:44

I don't know what's going on in TAMATAVE but one thing is sure, Antalaha is a monger dream.

Member #4178

08-30-12, 15:08

First girl are from Tonga-soa. The red girl tried to sell me condoms but I have said I need to test them first. She agreed.

UrbanGuest

08-30-12, 18:47

John P, these are some great photos and these girls look perfect for me, why does Mada have to be so far from Atlanta?

TigeDeJade

08-30-12, 22:58

i read with interest the article on sex workers in tamatave and around.

things are true.

but the wording "sex workers" is misleading as far as mada is concerned.

1) the great difference between mada and and asia is the absence of mamasans and cathouses: all girls are freebies.

in asia it is because the sale of girls (to repay debts or any family need of money) is cultural, that sex workers and sex houses are cultural (basically for locals, not made for farang)

2) there is also a cultural origin to the situation in mada to have girls always freebies never depending on mamasan or male exploiter.

it would be impossible in machist countries as men always try to take hand on girls (eastern europe mafias; mulims countries and globally all western christian world to simplify)

but historically mada has a matriarchal culture.

it is the reason for which you will not find any girl in mada who has to repay part of her fees. either she keeps them for her only (especially if she already has baby) or will help her mother. who is also usually single; sex girl having younger brothers and sisters.

mada men are usually womanizing here and there, so ladies over a certain age are often single or with a new partner.

i quite never met a sex girl having mother and father at home (it is the case only in high society in mada) always disrupted families.

in a country with no pension scheme it is not surprising that the youger generation helps the older one.

3) it is the reason for which there is a special alchimy in relationship with girls in mada.

of course you have authentic "sex workers", living of there flesh and getting older with that status. unfortunately.

but you have plenty of semi pros who perfectly know that it is a transitional period of their life to get money in a culture where to change of men is deeply rooted in tradition as they have seen with their mother.

mada girls like experience with men.

i remember a 10 days business travel with my driver on the hauts plateaux.

(of course i had my superb girl florencia. from tamatave-cf. a pic in the car- to travel with)

during week end we went on the sea shore to relax (in manajary).

we went to the beach.

my driver met girls on the beach with me. (nice mada guy in his thirties, married and i would say "serious" under mada standards). he was not sleeping in my hotel but in small driver's room which exist in the cities

but in the evening i had 3 girls met on the beach, coming to my bungalow looking for him!

they knew he was single traveller and wanted clearly to have sex with him. at least one of them. they were not sex workers (!) ; they perfectly knew that he was a simple poor serious driver, married, not ready to pay any money, but attractive for sex, they were just independant girls looking for one night good time with an attractive guy!

so it also explains that malagasy men being accustomed with that freedom and decision making of girls to pick guys, they are never jealous against vazahas.

if a girl goes with a vazaha, any malagasy man knows that he has no power of influence or cultural ground against that.

so, no hassle of any kind.

4) personally i always selected semi-pro:

a girl like florencia told me once: "i know my value"

it was not to ask me to pay more than standard rate (around 15 usd a day on long term. 10 days relationship minimum- even for such a beauty)

but she had in mind to induce love of a foreigner to marry with and leave mada one day. even if she knew that it would not be with me as i never lie or tell wrong stories. my speech, when sensually it appears volutuptuous for both of us is: "i am here for 10. 15-20 days. do you want to share a slice of life with me." and i never talk of money. just put 30 000 ariary in her handbag in the morning (cf. if semi-pro: bellah; florencia; elinah last march) when she is in the bathroom. if she is really non pro the approach of "cado" only at the end (lydia; nicole) , same rate mutiplied by the number of days is more respectful. however felana of morondava, but sex enthusiast with me, typically non pro, i was her first vazaha, asked for money after 3 days.so i did)

5) all photos of girls of tamatave are photos of semi pros (i found in 2-3 days in tamatave) :

bellah (20) was still at lycée preparing baccalaureat;

nicole (21) was business girl in sainte marie selling brochettes, and coming to tana every quarter to buy fashion girls garments to be sold in sainte marie (after 20 hours travel with boat and taxi brousse)

florencia (20) wanted to learn hair dressing, but as she new that she was especially cute. hope to find a foreign lover to leave mada.

elinah (18) was employee in a shop in bazar be.

for all these girls, i find the expression "sex workers" unapparopriate even if most of their income, came from sex.

they are not slaves, but independent escorts. but at 15 usd a day!

it is a matter of definition and the word "sex worker" smells for me too much sex exploitation instead of sex freedom with chosen partners.

Amadeuss

08-31-12, 19:03

I read with interest the article on sex workers in TAMATAVE and around.

Things are true.

But the wording "sex workers" is misleading as far as MADA is concerned.

1) The great difference between MADA and and ASIA is the absence of mamasans and cathouses: all girls are freebies.

It is the reason for which you will not find any girl in MADA who has to repay part of her fees. Either she keeps them for her only (especially if she already has baby) or will help her mother. Who is also usually single; sex girl having younger brothers and sisters.

3) It is the reason for which there is a special alchimy in relationship with girls in MADA.

You have plenty of semi pros who perfectly know that it is a transitional period of their life to get money in a culture where to change of men is deeply rooted in tradition as they have seen with their mother.

MADA girls like experience with men.
They are not slaves, but independent escorts. But at 15 USD a day!

It is a matter of definition and the word "sex worker" smells for me too much sex exploitation instead of sex freedom with chosen partners.

Tidj, your observation is so true. You may have to add that the gems you described can't be found at the known monger places in Tana as Indra or Glacier. But by walking the "brousse", be it a small town or some beach or or.

Therefore Mada will never be a typical sex-toursit place like Angeles or Pattaya or the Dom Republic. Guys who are used to the easy way to buy a girl out of a disco will find them in the known places but with little affection and fake moaning for a high price to pay.

The true challenge in Mada is the hunt for the "good" ones, the semi pro's, the occasional escorts. The reward is uncomparable to other destinations. But its not everyones game.

Member #4178

08-31-12, 22:23

The reward is uncomparable to other destinations.Absolutely, In Mada small towns no runners at 7:AM and Nude photos are not Prohibited but very welcome.

Bernardo75

09-01-12, 09:59

I will be in tana then ile sainte marie and finishing in nosy be.

Any recent infos, advice regarding the local girls?

How about the enforcement of anti prostitution laws?

TigeDeJade

09-02-12, 22:58

Tidj, your observation is so true. You may have to add that the gems you described can't be found at the known monger places in Tana as Indra or Glacier. But by walking the "brousse", be it a small town or some beach or or.

Therefore Mada will never be a typical sex-toursit place like Angeles or Pattaya or the Dom Republic. Guys who are used to the easy way to buy a girl out of a disco will find them in the known places but with little affection and fake moaning for a high price to pay.

The true challenge in Mada is the hunt for the "good" ones, the semi pro's, the occasional escorts. The reward is uncomparable to other destinations. But its not everyones game.I fully agree with you.

However for those who are obliged to stay in TANA; I would not say that it is impossible to find semi pro in TANA. Probably not in GLACIER were most girls know eachother as pros.

But INDRA is more mixed: many pros but also semi pros.

I shall not put photo of the girl, even her name, as I know that she reached her target: she is now in Europe; married; with a former French expatriate in MADA.

I met her first time in INDRA (THE place to go from my experience in TANA).

She had baccalaureat and was studying secretarial.

I was in a mood to quit the place alone (I seldom stay after midnight and stick to my scheme of demanding guy) , when I had seen girl (not my usual profile, more of German style : tall with generous tits) refusing several guys. I found that positive. When I talked to her, I immediately understood I was agreable to her. And she immediately wanted to follow me.

I asked her to show me her I'd. Even in the darkness of the corridor. Not because I might think her too young (she was 22) but because I experienced several times girls without I'd and naturally refused by the hotel receptionist with my full agreement.

We had wonderful time, (she was wonderfully licking my balls and enjoyed very much my DATY) and she became my regular several time when I was in TANA.

She was a good catholic, and sometimes I had to wait in my hotel the end of 6 pm mass! Before she comes.

Once, I was in bed fucking her. And her enjoying the session, when her lover (and future husband who had been appointed as expatriate in another country) , called her from abroad ss he did in fact every night around 11 pm, she told me.

She had told me the truth about her relationship with him.

What was funny was that this guy was very jealous, and by calling around 11pm, he wanted to check she was not in night club!

She was not. My bed was very quiet!

She told him: "you miss me much". But a few minutes before she had had a superb orgasm with me!

Never trust the word of malagasy girls, but just mutually enjoy!

However, as I have not been in TANA fir several years, I would suggest to be very very careful when going to and out of INDRA now: only in taxi from door to door today. (not walking by foot around the disco, as I did in the past.)

TigeDeJade

09-02-12, 23:11

I will be in tana then ile sainte marie and finishing in nosy be.

Any recent infos, advice regarding the local girls?

How about the enforcement of anti prostitution laws?For TANA: look at my today report.

SAINTE MARIE is a long island not very convenient for mongering (taxis have a monopoly and exagerate on rates).

I would suggest you to have an hotel in / near the main town AMBODIFUTATRA (check ortho)

NOSY BE is the most expansive place for tourists in MADA.

Of course lot of girls in night clubs of AMBATELOKE (check ortho) but night club of HELL VILLE has less pros (even if they move between the two spots)

Never been there for a long time: why to go were the flocks go when there are so many more secluded places!

After the stupid but true story some years ago, mongering tourism dropped in NOSY BE and many hotels closed.

I did not hear of any problem in recent period. Except thieves etc attracted by tourists; maybe policemen looking for bribes etc. More than in other places

Before taking the girl with you : always ask her to show you her I'd. Even if she is undoubtedly over age. Prostitution is not a problem in MADA but hotels (and I fully support them) requires to keep the I'd of the girl going to your room. Sometimes girls have lost their I'd etc. In that case chose another girl without hesitation.

Jamei

10-06-12, 07:55

In reagard of the girls: Can I get by without speaking french or malagasy there?

Thanks for info

Amadeuss

10-07-12, 05:57

In reagard of the girls: Can I get by without speaking french or malagasy there?

Thanks for infoNo!

Go to Pattaya or Angeles or Dom Republic

Member #4178

10-07-12, 06:49

No!

Go to Pattaya or Angeles or Dom RepublicBut we need him for his trip report.

One month of French lessons will be fine. I did the same preparation (Spanish 18 classes) , for my trip to Colombia and DR.

TigeDeJade

10-08-12, 22:53

In reagard of the girls: Can I get by without speaking french or malagasy there?

Thanks for infoJust use your sex language;

But in TAMATAVE which is a base for mining business a few hundreds km inside the country and a major export harbour; most guys in the bars are English speaking now as mining contractors are not French, but British, English Canadian; Sudaf.

My sweet ELINAH (cf my posts) had been trained in her 17th by a 36 years old Sudaf. Who had a rented house for when he was not in the mining Bush as an 8 months contractor, shared with him during weekends, and I get the delight of her well trained 18th;

However she had not learnt English : the only words she knew was: "bed";"sperm";"kiss". And her vocabulary in French was even less as she had not been "French sex" educated.

She spoke only malagasy; I do not utter a single word. But no need in bed, she was a pure tiger girl active all possible positions. (cf post and pictures)

So do not focuss on language.

Member #4178

10-09-12, 08:16

she was a pure tiger girl active all possible positions. (cf post and pictures)

So do not focuss on language.But it's better to have a basic communication with the tiger, it's more fun.

Airlines hotels etc can be manage with english but for GFE its better to get the basics.

TheCable Guy

10-28-12, 15:47

Just wandering why Mada has the highest photos to posts ratio in the entire ISG website. 66 percent.

Less spammers, serious mongers or just because Mada is a monger paradise?

Yannick0712

11-03-12, 09:51

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to visit Madagascar in the next few months and I would like to have the best DETAILED advices from those who have got some experiences here. Only serious people please.

I am planning to stay 15 days and I will come alone. I would like to know the prices of the girls, the hotels, etc.

I saw some pics of the Malagasy girls on a friend's mobile who has been over there and they seem to be all black. I'm just wondering if there is a possibility to get some white chicks or even some chicks who look like Thai girls.

Also, I want to know if there are any escort agencies for the girls as I'm planning to stay for 15 days, and I would like to have some girls with me to enjoy.

Any detailed info about prices is the most welcome.

Thanks for all.

Amadeuss

11-04-12, 08:20

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to visit Madagascar in the next few months and I would like to have the best DETAILED advices from those who have got some experiences here. Only serious people please.

I saw some pics of the Malagasy girls on a friend's mobile who has been over there and they seem to be all black. I'm just wondering if there is a possibility to get some white chicks or even some chicks who look like Thai girls.

Also, I want to know if there are any escort agencies for the girls as I'm planning to stay for 15 days, and I would like to have some girls with me toYou got 4 posts on ISG, just asking to spoonfed you. Not the way things are done.

Better read the forum. So much valuable info here.

Forget white chicks in Mada. If thats your fancy, don't go. Stay in Pattaya or go to German FKK's.

And escort agencies in Mada? Don't tell me that you did read about Mada anything at all.

Yannick0712

11-04-12, 09:34

I'm sorry if I missed the 4 posts talking about Mada but I'm new to this forum.

I would be grateful to you if you can give me the link to the posts you are talking about.

Thanks in advance.

You got 4 posts on ISG, just asking to spoonfed you. Not the way things are done.

Better read the forum. So much valuable info here.

Forget white chicks in Mada. If thats your fancy, don't go. Stay in Pattaya or go to German FKK's.

And escort agencies in Mada? Don't tell me that you did read about Mada anything at all.

Member #4178

11-04-12, 18:42

Thanks in advance.Do you want to fly to the end of the world to get a massage?

Forget about Madagascar its not for you.

Yannick0712

11-05-12, 09:20

It's not only for a massage!

I'm planning to get some orgies, gang-bang, threesome, etc.

And I was wondering if Madagascar would suit me as here it's hard to get this kind of fun.

Some say that Madagascar is the Thailand of Africa. Well, I'm just trying to get some advices and also some DETAILED info about the prices etc.

Do you want to fly to the end of the world to get a massage?

Forget about Madagascar its not for you.

Member #4178

11-05-12, 19:33

Impossible to get bored at hotel Vitasoa.

Mix seafood followed by hot school girls Cocktail. (18+)

Member #4178

11-05-12, 19:53

Prostitution is not a problem in MADA but hotels (and I fully support them) requires to keep the I'd of the girl going to your room.Not in small towns such as morandava, sambava, Antalaha. Or even hotel Valiha in Diego oposite Mac-dans.

I do agree about the importance of having ID.

Amadeuss

11-06-12, 06:50

It's not only for a massage!

I'm planning to get some orgies, gang-bang, threesome, etc.

And I was wondering if Madagascar would suit me as here it's hard to get this kind of fun.

Some say that Madagascar is the Thailand of Africa. Well, I'm just trying to get some advices and also some DETAILED info about the prices etc.Agree with John P the more you write the less Mada is a place you fit. Stay away.

What you think you are here? Shouting again and again for DETAILED infos. Hey men-we are not your slaves.

Member #4178

11-06-12, 10:35

The problem with her is that she tend to visit the guest room especially the shower too often, to make sure that everything is fine.

Exceptional costumer treatment!

TommyPomelo

11-06-12, 20:02

Hello to all,

I am a new member here. Living in Pattaya last 4 years. Ready for a new adventure. Have read all Madagascar posts from #1 to #71. Thank you all for all the valuable information. Will be a paid member soon because I want to have a closer look at all the great pictures. I speak english, spanish and thai, but sadly do not speak french. However started studying french and malagasay. Too much free study material on the internet. Will study first and then go to see all the beautiful girls in Antananarivo, Morandava, Antahla, Tamatave and any other hot spots. Any comments or advice is welcome.

Member #4178

11-07-12, 16:59

started studying french and malagasay.Why Trolling here?

Member #4178

11-08-12, 10:17

Antalaha is a bad choice if you don't like company. Girls are everywhere.

Yannick0712

11-08-12, 16:45

Hi,

I'm planning to have my first trip to Madagascar for mongering. And I'm planning to stay at the Sakamanga Hotel which is situated in Antananarivo.

The hotel seems to be nice and according to the reviews, the staff are nice and it is safe.

If anyone can tell me if it's easy to find some nice girls in the area for mongering, it would be nice.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Jazz123

11-09-12, 11:17

Yannick0712

11-09-12, 11:43

Vahaza Be

11-09-12, 19:31

Thank you for your help. I really appreciate as it will be my first visit to Madagascar!

I've read somewhere in the forum that the price of the girls are much more expensive in Antananarivo, can you give me an idea of the prices over there please?

Thanks in advance.The Street Walkers near Sakamanga are very cheap in comparison to the girls in the discos. Some are students, but many are poor "working" mothers, and they come out early, just after dark. Be sure to use protection if you pick up a SWer; Mad has a low incidence of HIV but a very high % of other veneral diseases. The funky Club Indra isn't that far away, and has lots of local talent available for either overnights or quickies.

Yannick0712

11-09-12, 23:29

Thank you Vahaza Be. I really appreciate your help and your info are so valuable to me as it will be my first time mongering in Madagascar.

Don't worry I will use protection when I'll pick up the girls over there.

I would be grateful to you if you can tell me more about the fees that the girls charges for quickies and overnight stays so that I can get an idea how it goes over there.

The Street Walkers near Sakamanga are very cheap in comparison to the girls in the discos. Some are students, but many are poor "working" mothers, and they come out early, just after dark. Be sure to use protection if you pick up a SWer; Mad has a low incidence of HIV but a very high % of other veneral diseases. The funky Club Indra isn't that far away, and has lots of local talent available for either overnights or quickies.

Member #4178

11-10-12, 11:58

tell me more about fees that the girls charges for quickiesTo get an full ROI (return on investment) for the 2000US$ flight tickets (including domestics) , you will need to get around 200 quickies which will take around 3 months non stop banging (two girls per day).

Yannick0712

11-10-12, 17:16

Thanks for the info John but that seems to be quite hard to achieve.

By the way, whats the ' average price ' for a quickie and for hiring a girl for the whole night at my hotel?

Will the girls negotiate their fees in Ariary or Euros?

To get an full ROI (return on investment) for the 2000US$ flight tickets (including domestics) , you will need to get around 200 quickies which will take around 3 months non stop banging (two girls per day).

Member #4178

11-10-12, 21:44

By the way, whats the ' average price ' for a quickieYou can calculate 2000 (us$ flight for a full ROI) /200 (number of quickies) =10 US$ (price per a single quickie)

And for hiring a girl for the whole night at my hotel?This is more complex equation with multiple variables but around 100-500% more then an average quickie.

Will the girls negotiate their fees in Ariary or Euros?I have heard that it is in the old currency FMG, so you need to multiple the current Ariary by a constant factor. You can use your smart phone when mongering, to help with all the calculation. Don't make mistakes.

Vahaza Be

11-12-12, 19:41

1 ariary = 5 fmgs.

The largest note is 10, 000 ariary (50, 000 fmgs) or about $5 US. The SWers want ariary / fmgs. The upscale disco queens will sometimes accept foreign currency (e. G, a $50 bill).

20K ariary ($10) should be enough for a quickie with a SWer. But you will need a room too, either your own or at some dump that caters to Swers (she will know where to go, but which will add a little more to the total cost).

Per JP, overnights vary from girl to girl and from city to city. My advice: find a nice country girl outside of Tana and make her your "girlfriend" for a few days; repeat as necessary.

Vb

Member #4178

11-12-12, 20:34

My advice: find a nice country girl outside of Tana and make her your "girlfriend" for a few days; repeat as necessary.Of course I was sarcastic and VB knows that. VB illustrates the main point. Madagascar is not for quickies, not for Thai looks, not for Massage not for white girls and not for Tana.

Madagascar is for the adventurer monger who want to experiences the unique local calture, The beautiful country, the relax atmosphere and specifically the country girlfriend experiences!

In Madagascar country towns girls do not have a price tag as a piece of meat from a supermarket. Girls are sweet with super nice personality and also poor. If anyone start to calculate girls overall cost it means he got it all wrong and do not understand where he is going to and better to go to. If this is the case Thailand or Dominican republic will be a better choice.

TommyPomelo

11-12-12, 21:31

Would appreciate any info from those with experience. Have seen some photos here of nude or partially nude girls taken daytime on the beach. Also some photos of at least one punter doing the girl on the beach or somewhere in an isolated setting. Where is the best town to visit for just this sort of action?

Yannick0712

11-13-12, 04:52

Thanks, those information are so valuable to me!

Any details you wish to give me about the girls? You are the most welcome!

I think you are right and it's better for me to find a girl and then make her my ' girlfriend ' during my stay.

There is a slight change in my trip. I will stay at the hotel Le Diamant which is situated in Antsirabe.

According to some reviews on the internet, it seems to be quite good.

But I have got any info about mongering in Antsirabe.

Will it be easy for me to find some girls overthere?

I prefer girls who are quite slim and who are more of the Asian Ethnicity. Like the Thai girls. Think that it will be easy for me to find some in Antsirabe?

Thanks in advance for all you valuable help.

1 ariary = 5 fmgs.

The largest note is 10, 000 ariary (50, 000 fmgs) or about $5 US. The SWers want ariary / fmgs. The upscale disco queens will sometimes accept foreign currency (e. G, a $50 bill).

20K ariary ($10) should be enough for a quickie with a SWer. But you will need a room too, either your own or at some dump that caters to Swers (she will know where to go, but which will add a little more to the total cost).

Per JP, overnights vary from girl to girl and from city to city. My advice: find a nice country girl outside of Tana and make her your "girlfriend" for a few days; repeat as necessary.

Vb

Jazz123

11-13-12, 09:47

I will stay at the hotel Le Diamant which is situated in Antsirabe.

But I have got any info about mongering in Antsirabe. Will it be easy for me to find some girls overthere?Please see my report dated 11-23-09. There will be a selection of WGs at the disco at your hotel (guess mthe best selection is on weekends) so take your pick. Any pousse-pousse driver will also be more than willing to recommend an amateur girl for you.

Have fun!

Vahaza Be

11-13-12, 15:35

Vahaza Be

11-13-12, 15:40

The Hotel Diamant in Antsirabe is attached to a disco. The hotel is OK (very good by Mad standards) , but action at the disco varies from night to night. With luck, you won't have to work too hard or travel too far to score. But if you're determined to find "Thai"-like girls, you're headed to the wrong island.

Vb.

Thanks, those information are so valuable to me!

Any details you wish to give me about the girls? You are the most welcome!

I think you are right and it's better for me to find a girl and then make her my ' girlfriend ' during my stay.

There is a slight change in my trip. I will stay at the hotel Le Diamant which is situated in Antsirabe.

According to some reviews on the internet, it seems to be quite good.

But I have got any info about mongering in Antsirabe.

Will it be easy for me to find some girls overthere?

I prefer girls who are quite slim and who are more of the Asian Ethnicity. Like the Thai girls. Think that it will be easy for me to find some in Antsirabe?

Thanks in advance for all you valuable help.

Yannick0712

11-13-12, 16:28

Well, I know that they are mainly of ' African Ethnicity ' but I Have seen some photos here of some girls who look like ' Thai girls '! I know that I'm not heading to Pattaya or Bangkok. But if you can guide me where I can find those type of girls, I would be grateful.

Anyway, can you tell me a little bit about the girls in Antsirabe?

But if you're determined to find "Thai"-like girls, you're headed to the wrong island.

Vb.

TommyPomelo

11-14-12, 01:41

Vahaza Be

11-14-12, 15:40

Dear mr baboon be. For your information (RTTFF) I had to look that one up. Hahahha! I read each post, each and every one. I read them two times. And that was before I signed up and paid so I could look more closely at the photos. You won't find this abbreviation listed on ISG this one is especially for you KMMFA!Tommyboy.

If you really did read the many posts here (which I doubt) , and still can't figure out where to go, then you are one stupid MF.

Troll on somewhere else.

Vb

TommyPomelo

11-14-12, 21:37

Mr Baboon Bee I think you use this forum as a territorial turf. Trying to prove something. Maybe you are one of those guys who was bullied too much. Rather than just using this forum as a way to exchange useful information. You refer to me as a stupid mf. Very nice. Sometimes the stupid things people say are a reflection of their own intelligence. I speak six languages and am learning french and malagasy now. I am above average in intelligence. Then you advise me to troll on somewhere else as if you own this forum and have personal rights to mongering in Madagascar and can tell others they will not be admitted to your personal domain. You are a regular character aren't you. Just try to relax and have fun. And try not to be so hard on those who are new to this website. The world is a big place and there is room for all. Suerte mi amigo!

Vahaza Be

11-15-12, 16:45

OK, tommyboy, I'll assume that you're not a troll or total moron for the moment.

Mad is an island and beaches are found around the perimeter. :)

Do the names Morondava, Diego / Ramena, Antalaha / Sambava, Mahajanga, Toliara, Ft. Dauphin, etc ring any bells from prior posts in the Forum? With a little effort and modicum of luck, you can find very cooperative ladies at all of these locations. As other posters have pointed out here, your best bet is to invest a little time to develop a "girlfriend-like" experience rather than rely exclusively on random pros from the discos. Each town, village, or city has a different feel and a different ethnic-tribal mix, but there's a reason old fart ex-pats love the island. Ladies are looking for vazahas with ariary to burn everywhere on the island. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut in Madagascar.

Member #4178

11-17-12, 09:17

Have seen some photos here of nude or partially nude girls taken daytime on the beach. Also some photos of at least one punter doing the girl on the beach or somewhere in an isolated setting. Where is the best town to visit for just this sort of action?The photos you saw are from Morondava. The guy rented a motobike and went out of the town. There are many deserted beach for this kind of fantasy near every costal town. But if you like the desert style with a wild feel, then the area from Torondava to Tulear is the place to be. (as you saw in the photos)

"I read each post, each and every one. I read them two times"Please read it again, you missed it: All the information was already posted. This is why 15 posts of questions are consider as Troll!

The challenge now is find a new frontiers and bring fresh stories and photos. Major breakthrough for the forum in this regards will take place a round may next year.

Tarriqq

11-27-12, 19:15

Vahaza Be

11-27-12, 23:53

madagascar recently introduced laws targeting prostitution which prohibits consorting with female prostitutes. she may look alluring, but you're best to stay away. in addition, a campaign against sexual abuse of **** children (under 18 years) is strictly enforced.with all due respect, you don't know shit about mad.

Jiggydus

11-28-12, 02:36

madagascar recently introduced laws targeting prostitution which prohibits consorting with female prostitutes. she may look alluring, but you're best to stay away. in addition, a campaign against sexual abuse of **** children (under 18 years) is strictly enforced.are you an ngo troll or a jealous man trying to keep mada for yourself? sounds just like the feminazis and un / ngo trolls in haiti, kenya, uganda, and cambodia.

Member #4178

11-28-12, 08:31

a campaign against sexual abuse of **** children (under 18 years) is strictly enforced.smart workaround but not a troll, he just want to ask about pedro tolerance.

so the answer is that mada law will not tolerate any kind of **** activities, therefore it's not the place for you.

SailingWhorist

12-01-12, 14:52

2 months in ambatoloaka, nosy be, madagascar, october 2011. (totally worth a visit)

i couldn't find much information here aon nosy be / ambatoloaka so i'm posting this report now even though it is from trip that was about a year ago. i did all of my mongering in ambatoloaka (pronounced more like oom-bhat-ah-luke) , nosy be. i felt no need to check out any other part of madagascar after seeing the scene here. and i've spent over 2 of the last four years staying in top mongering destinations in asia and south america. anyway its a small town so no guide or details are required as far as specific places to go, trust me. just walk down the only main street at night that's where all the action is, restaurants, bars, clubs etc and this area is mostly safe at all hours. girls approach you on the street regularly. most are below average but there are plenty of 6\'s and 7\'s with even a few 9\'s here and there. some are very young so be careful. my first girl practically dragged me back to her place as i was walking home alone too weary from traveling and culture shock to accept any of the earlier propositions, was either 10, 000 or 20, 000 mga (ariary, that is $5 or $10us and that included all night, multiple pops, her place (man this was a bed filled with hay or something in a bamboo shack but everything seemed clean enough) when i woke up with the sun, still drunk, she walked me back to where i was staying 15 minutes away. it was awkward walking through her part of the village with all the elders and so forth out and about at 6am we must of stuck out like a soar thumb but this kind of thing is so common i really think it just goes unnoticed.

round two, next night, similar situation but i was on a mission to find an english speaker, this was difficult at first but with all the girls approaching me in the bar / restaurant / pool hall, i just kept asking them if they had a friend who spoke english until they brought me one! this girl was only semi-pro and very nice. did laundry in a local hotel as a normal job for something like $5usd a day. her english was very limited but enough to make things slightly less awkward. i never asked price, she came back home with me, spent the night, nearly anything goes, i offered "cab"' money and she said "oh just a little." i said how much and she said oh, just 6, 000 ariary ($3usd so i gave her 10, 000 and she was thrilled, and this for an all nighter. i kept her number and used her every time i found nothing more enticing at night. i could call her any hour and she would happily show up 15 minutes later. i don't think there is need to outline nights 3 to 60 or so but it was generally more of the same whenever i wanted.

a lot of the girls are poor enough that they will consider a p4p with nearly any tourist, and do it all with a smile. the scene is always casual, flirty, laid back, and while i don\'t exactly suggest it, many people never negotiated in advance. not speaking french makes it a bit more difficult but you can get by, especially if you hook up with some expats or travelers to hang out with (as you likely will) they can help you out a bit but again, it\'s all workable without french just a lot more awkward initially. you can also learn enough phrases and words in just a few days to get buy. if you do speak a little french things get just too easy, really.

a few of the seasoned mercenaries that prowl the main street, clubs and bars just like everyone else (but slightly more direct and usually lower quality) will have the nerve to ask as much as $30usd / 60k ariary) but that was rare and nearly all of the nicer and prettier girls were in the 10, 000 to 30, 000 ariary range. at first it was hard to believe the local expats explaining to me that nearly every girl you see is potentially available, but its not too far of an exaggeration. i saw 50 to 60 year old guys (i'm 40) pull a few smoking hot 9+\'s for $5usd but were questionably of age (looking like 16ish). there is also a nice beach scene about 2 blocks from the main street, loaded with local non-pros and a few pros too, seemingly of higher quality, but mostly on sundays, plus nice music, cheap bars on the beach, its a great scene.

lastly, even compared to other 3rd world villages it's dirty here, health standards and sanitation are way below par, people [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and more in any corner, cheap food is very cheap and good enough, western type restaurants are closer to western prices but still very good value. one place had a beautiful filet mignon for 8usd.

lastly, i didn\'t see anything going on in the daytime in hellville nosy be but one friend with very little french scored a freebe at night easily, also, in majunga for a few days but never out at night, little going on and locals advised that without a taxi and a planned venue you don\'t want to be wondering around, while i was there one friend had an attempted robbery at night that he was able to resist but again i just stayed in nights, i was there more by necessity than choice.

i could elaborate a lot more but i'll leave it at this unless there are any questions. sorry i can't speak for the bigger towns that ore more of interest and sorry for posting this a year after the fact.

p. s. regarding the new policy / shake down targeted at sex tourism, i don't think anyone needs to worry about this unless you are targeting **** girls. this is really nothing new at all, even a year ago when i was there these posters were everywhere. no one seems to have any issues with normal sex for money with girls over 18. even though i think the age of consent might be much lower. the only caution worth mentioning is that there were a few situations where an under-aged girl (like 15) would be working the area for a week or much longer, then she shows up with the police and points out all the john's she's been with like some kind of a round up, these guys were humiliated and fined, not sure about jail. so just check i'd's because of the 18-20ish year old's are a sight to see and won't get you in trouble ever. even this story regarding the 'shake down' part is totally an exception to the rule, at least in nosy be.

Amadeuss

12-02-12, 02:14

, Also, in Majunga for a few days but never out at night, little going on and locals advised that without a taxi and a planned venue you don\'t want to be wondering around, while I was there one friend had an attempted robbery at night that he was able to resist but again I just stayed in nights, I was there more by necessity than choice.

I could elaborate a lot more but I'll leave it at this unless there are any questions. .Great update on NB. Should go back.

But tell me why you didn't like Mahjunga? Many posters rave about it as one of the best destinations.

SailingWhorist

12-02-12, 23:45

Great update on NB. Should go back.

But tell me why you didn't like Mahjunga? Many posters rave about it as one of the best destinations.Then I'm not sure we are talking about the same place, I THINK the correct name is "Mahajunga" on the northern half of the western coast. I didn't see any tourism here so I'm a little surprised there has even been mention of it on this forum if it is the same town, but I'm new here and haven't read any posts under Madgascar since I'm not returning soon. Anyway, about Mahajunga, I was staying on a sailboat there, and there were major security issues in the harbor, the fisherman like to row out to your boat and will grab whatever they can at night so you have to keep a constant lookout or hire a local and then hire someone to watch him! But I did a little research by day talking to several expats living there who said (best I can recall a year later) was that there were a few clubs / discos around that you might try if you were with a local or a guide or hired a taxi to look after you or something like that. It seems like it could be a rough place, and during the day it was just nothing at all like Nosy Be, no obvious girls walking around, no cool places to hang out and meet them, at least not down by the water where I was staying and I did walk a good portion of the city but never saw anything of any interest to a tourist, mongering or otherwise. There were just a few nicer restaurants catering to the expats and biz travelers where I met foreigners and they said once in a while a girl might wander in but unlikely as the beer and food is double the price anywhere else. I'm well traveled and push the limits of whats 'safe' quite often but from what the local expats told me you just don't want to be wondering around this place at night. I know a few other people now that were robbed there by now (but again they were staying on the water just outside of the local boat harbor) and there problems were on the water at night, I can't imagine its much safer on the streets.

Amadeuss

12-03-12, 10:50

Then I'm not sure we are talking about the same place, I THINK the correct name is "Mahajunga" on the northern half of the western coast,

I was staying on a sailboat there, and there were major security issues in the harbor, the fisherman like to row out to your boat and will grab whatever they can at night so you have to keep a constant lookout or hire a local and then hire someone to watch him!Its the same town. Few years ago there was a ferry connection between NosyBe and Mahajunga. But no more.

Understand your issue with the yacht. But that sort of stealing movable items from the outboard to the dingy happens in many places if you not berth in a guarded marina.

There are many good comments on the scene in older reports and on other boards. But for sure, its not the touristical P4P as in NosyBe. Mada girls in provincial towns do need a bit of courting but then the rewards are great.

Thanks anyway for the report. Any pics?

SailingWhorist

12-03-12, 12:44

Its the same town. Few years ago there was a ferry connection between NosyBe and Mahajunga. But no more.

Understand your issue with the yacht. But that sort of stealing movable items from the outboard to the dingy happens in many places if you not berth in a guarded marina.

There are many good comments on the scene in older reports and on other boards. But for sure, its not the touristical P4P as in NosyBe. Mada girls in provincial towns do need a bit of courting but then the rewards are great.

Thanks anyway for the report. Any pics?I actually do have several photos from Mahajunga but none of any working girls since I didn't really see any but they do start to give a very rough idea of what kind of place it is, I'm new but I thought the photos uploaded are generally of your conquests which I did not photograph in NB and did not have any in Mahajunga, if I"m wrong and anyone wants a few pics w / o girls from Mahajunga let me know. Would have been very nice to know about this forum before now, maybe things would have been different for me in Mahajunga had I known, but I still can't see any reason to go there over NB.

Vahaza Be

12-03-12, 16:01

Great info SailingWhorist! Many thanks. Nosy Be is well known for its sexy delights. It's a longtime destination for sex tourism, and one of the few places to tolerate gays. Mahajanga. Not so much. Mahajanga is a bloody hot and dusty place dominated by karana (Indo-Pak merchants). There is a bar across from the Old Baobab Hotel that has daytime pros on the prowl but most are skanks. Discos are a better option there, but action doesn't begin until very late, almost too late for an old fart like me. But I've pulled a few gems out of the disco. Like many other places in Mada, street crime and theft is now a problem in Mahajanga because people are so damn poor, the gov't is broke and corrupt, and the cops / gendarmes are all on the take. Stay safe and use a little common sense.

Member #4178

12-04-12, 08:01

My first day near the harbour I thought I am in hell. But after I got sick from a burger I had no dought that's becouse of my sin.

But when I saw the local expats with so beautiful and sexy ladies I was realized that the place has it potential. It seems they have a mix blood with some kind of Arab or something. The resoult is very exotic.

The food take more then an hour to be served, but somhow the local got it faster. This place was too complex for me to figure out.

However my bad lack with the burger and the hell style temperature made me to continue with my original plan to move to Diego and then sambava.

Gin And Tonic

12-04-12, 08:19

L am now a fan of MADA girls since l met a few in Pattaya on my regular visits. I plan to visit Mada in Dec and will enquire more on this site when the time draws closer about the usual girl friendly hotes, compensation etc. Thanks guys who have been posting. Keep them comming / l will be ion Pattaya next week and for sur will see the MADA girls as l know the bar they operate from.Just wondering how much they charge LT / ST? Pulled 2 out of a 2nd Road. Beer bar last high season. Little foggy but think I paid 1, 000 baht each for short time. Wanted them for the night but they had wanted to hit Mix Disco afterwards. One was 22, Olivia, the other about 30. Tried to get them to muff dive but the older one was not into pussy. Too bad it was with a couple nights left on my trip and those were already reserved for my fav GOGO from Baby Dolls.

Amadeuss

12-05-12, 06:45

Just wondering how much they charge LT / ST? Pulled 2 out of a 2nd Road. Beer bar last high season. Little foggy but think I paid 1, 000 baht each for short time. Wanted them for the night but they had wanted to hit Mix Disco afterwards. One was 22, Olivia, the other about 30. Tried to get them to muff dive but the older one was not into pussy.You talking about Uganda or Kenia chicks.

Men. You never been to Mada. Once you been there then you know its an utter insult to Mada gals to compare them with those big ass scammers from the African continent.

Pattaya comments: suggest to stop them here. Irrelevant!

Gin And Tonic

12-20-12, 02:10

You talking about Uganda or Kenia chicks.

Men. You never been to Mada. Once you been there then you know its an utter insult to Mada gals to compare them with those big ass scammers from the African continent.

Pattaya comments: suggest to stop them here. Irrelevant!They were from madagascar. Back in Pattaya now. Went to same bar last night and they are no longer there. Last year there were always a dozen African chicks on Beach Road but they are gone also. Looks like immigration clamping down.

FindGirls

01-13-13, 17:19

However for those who are obliged to stay in TANA; I would not say that it is impossible to find semi pro in TANA. Probably not in GLACIER were most girls know eachother as pros.

But INDRA is more mixed: many pros but also semi pros.Fisrt of all thank you Sailingwhorist for you latest info about Nosy Be and Majunga. I have not been in these places for a while but I still think that you can score easily when you to go the local discos at night. According to what I saw in Hellville and Majunga and if you are not looking for a pro, it is more difficult to have a girl at day time when you stay for a short time.

Now about Tana I do not fully agree with what have been seen said according to my latest stay on December 2012 and from my previous experiences.

You should keep in mind from this post that my experience is from December. During this period, there are more mongering opportunities as a lot of people go to Tana to see their family. This means also that there are more opportunities to have non pro girls (my favorites). Tana is warmer but it rains much more, just like in the east of Madagascar. It is also a whole lot more crowded with several traffic jams in the center around avenue de l'indépendance.

Let's start by the cabaret Glacier.

GLACIER.

When I go to the Glacier, I like to take my time to take a girl to my hotel at day time or at night time. I drink or eat something. If I make my choice, I prefer invite the girl for a drink to have a first impression. If I do not feel any good vibes, I just let her go and I look for another, or simply leave. I do not feel the urge to take always a girl from Glacier.

I arrived there last month and did not recognise any of the faces that I saw three years ago. The only girl that I recall was Sheila, the only one who was there for several years and she is there until 7 PM or so. I do not fuck this one but I like talking to her because she is friendly and she keeps me updated about the situation.

She confirmed to me that most of the girls that I saw previously where not there anymore. My feeling is that during the day, there are less "pros" and there is a high chance to pick a non pro girl. My chances increases when Sheila is around as she can point the ones that are new to the scene.

The first day that I arrive I prefered to make my own choice. I chose a girl called Julie from Tulear. She was 19, small, cute face, small, nice body. She has already a baby of 1, 5 years. I spoke to her a little in French during the drink and brought her back to the hotel Saint Pierre.

Unfortunately when we were in my room, she was not in the mood to fuck, although she took a shower and came back naked under the towel! This was a first for me. As I arrived the same day early in the morning in Tana from the airport, I did not force her to fuck. I just took a nap with her for 2 hours or so. She wanted to stay but I took her back to Glacier as I knew she was not worth it. Note that I did not gave her any money until we reached the cabaret. Once we arrived there, I looked for Sheila and handed to her some ariary that she gave discretely to that girl so that she would not be any nuisance. She accepted the money without problem and I went looking for another girl.

Sheila told me that a friend of her from Manakara wanted to go out to me. She was chubby and she was not my first choice, but there was something about the way she looking at me and smiled back. So I accepted. After a drink, I took her back to the hotel after 8 PM and I did not regret. She was 24 with 2 kids still in Manakara. With this girl it was another story. When we started kissing, I could noticed that all her body wanted me from top to bottom. She took a shower and after a few minutes, I took her first missionary and realised that her pussy was very wet in less than 2 minutes! Then she wanted to be on top. I could even feel some of her juice out of her pussy on my balls! We fucked two times in the evening. Before meeting her, I wanted to go to Indra but afterwards I decline as she took all my energy. In the morning we fucked again. I gave her some ariary (I believe 50 000 MGA + some ariary for the taxy be) that she put in her purse without looking at it. All the other girls that I fucked on December did the same.

I left Tana the same morning and came back two weeks after. I went to Glacier at night and found my chubby girl who was happy to see me. We did not stay long. We went to my hotel and of course there was a sex session until I fell asleep. In the morning, she wanted another session. When we finished she asked me if I had anything to do that day. I said no. She then invited me to her place. This was the first time that a girl from Glacier did that. I accepted. This relation became more a boy friend-girl friend relationship. We took two taxy be to her place that I paid (I paid for both, it costs no more than 400 ariary by person for each taxy be we took, not a big deal). Remember during day time, there are a lot of people and traffic jams in Tana, especially in December. The risk of being robbed is quite low unless you wear expensive jeweleries or watch. I do not remember the name of the district she told me just that it was not too far from 67 Ha.

We arrived at her place it was a single room with a big bed. She told me that she arrived 3 months ago and tried to save as much as possible to buy things to make her life easier. She made breakfast for me with what she had and also prepare dinner after noon. In the meantime, she introduced me to her family: her aunt, half sister and other friends came to see her. I have to admit that her sister had a good looking face with very attractive lips that I would have certainly kissed if my girl was not around! . At the opposite of her room, she introduced me to another girl who was also in Glacier the previous night. That girl was not older from 25 years from her looks and she was taking care of her small boy. Her mother was looking after her kid while she was away.

When we finished dinner, my girl and I laid on the bed. We started almost to fuck but decided not go on further because we did not have the same shower facilities, and too many people could knock on the door to see her or hear what we were doing. Later in the afternoon we went back to my hotel to have sex at our ease. She left my room early in the evening. I left her some ariary for her return.

This journey brought to me a better understanding of the girls that hang out at night in Glacier. At day time, I do no think that there are many pros. Most are semi-pros or occasionals who do no stay later than 7 PM. A few of them stay only one hour or two. Why 7 PM? Because they take a Taxy Be back home. After that there are only taxis left. These are more expensive. You will see girls in group because they live in the same area and if they want to go home with a taxi they can split the expenses. It is currently dangerous in Tana (and probably in other cities in Madagascar) for girls as for vahaza (foreigner in Madagascar) to walk alone at night even for short distances.

On or after 7 PM other girls come in Glacier. This is when the "pro" girls are also in the cabaret. Starting at 8:30 PM there is almost always a band / artist playing. It is not free: it cost between 2000 and 4000 ariary (MGA) depending on the popularity of the artists. The fee entrance has to be paid around 8 PM even if you are already inside the cabaret.

The word "pro girl" is used many times in this forum. Some explanations have already been given. Still I am not sure it has the same understanding for everyone. To my point of view in Madagascar, it is a girl who comes frequently to a place (Glacier, Indra, or other) and chases men more for the money than for the sex or for the fun. There are also a few escort girls in Tana. I am not interested in pro girls. I prefer all the other ones: I like chating with them without having the obligation to take them back to my hotel. Three years ago a student came to an appartment that I rented in Tana. Her french was very good. She seemed sure that something would happen on 21/12/2012. I guess she is bit disappointed now.)

After 8 PM in Glacier, there are certainly pro girls, but I am unsure if there are the majority as I learned why girls are often in groups. You should know also that there are currently very agressive girls coming from Tulear now. These girls in group of three were all fat. They go first to Glacier then to Indra. They were either grabbing my arm (in cabaret Glacier) , putting their hand on my balls (yes they did at Indra!) or talking to me even when they saw me obviously with another girl (this happened at Indra also). I really hated that agressive attitude! I never take that kind of girl to my hotel nor talk to them. I am quite sure that they will not stay long around.

FindGirls

01-13-13, 17:22

now let's talk about indra.

indra.

things are much the same there. the price of the entrance is the drink you order. i usually go there around 11 pm.

i like hunting non pro girls in this disco. i do not take the agressive ones or those you ask where my hotel is just after one minute. i prefer to look everywhere in the disco to see which girls are available with a few eye contacts. when i made my choice, i offer a drink as in glacier.

what i like about disco in general is how horny the girls become when they dance a malagasy song, i insist especially a malagsy song. other type of songs can loosen them up but not as much as a gasy song. this is a nice preliminary before sex. they will move their ass around your dick. none of the girls i dance with ever remove their ass even when they felt my dick getting harder.

during my last stay in tana, i went there the day my nympho girl from manakara left my hotel. i did not sleep long with her. when she was gone, i slept until after midnight. i decided to go indra with a taxi. i saw a lot of new faces and also 3 "old" ones (one hard pro, a metisse girl friend from last sex friend in tana and a girl who was previously in glacier 3 years ago). there were also girls who came from glacier, including the agressives that i encountered. i had a few eye contacts. one girl that i never seen before proposed to dance with me but i was not interested. i saw a small dark one. i spoke to her. she immediately wanted a beer. i did not feel any good vibe about the way she ask it. then she asked me where my hotel was. so i decided to look for another one as she seemed too obviously looking a vahaza and some quick cash. but make no mistake: most of the girls are looking for a lt and prefer to go back in the morning at home.

after a few minutes, i saw another interesting with a slight shy and naughty look at me. she was not so tall and rather thin. she was with another friend standing close to the chains next to the bar. i had an eye contact on the opposite side of the dancing floor. i nooded with my head to come to me. however she did not feel comfortable doing that so i came to her. she told me her name that i already forgotten. i offered her a drink and after a while we started dancing. as i wrote earlier, an agressive girl from le glacier came to disturb us although i was dancing with my girl of the night. my girl took my hand, ensuring that she was with me. we did not stay long. i took her back to my hotel after 1:30 pm i think. i fuck her just once. i did not have enough energy to fuck her more. after the sex she kept her body close to me and one of her legs above mine. i did understood that she wanted more but i just couldn't anymore. she woke me up a little in the morning with her leg still on top of mine hoping to get laid once again. but i still needed some sleep. i don't think that i slept more than 4 yours. she decided to leave rather early in the morning. i left her some ariary. with a smile, she put it in her purse without looking how much i gave her.

after she left, i could not sleep anymore but i was tired. at noon, i went to the glacier. i took a café and ate there. i also looked which girls were good for my taste. i finally decided to keep my energy for the evening. i went for the second time at indra that night. sooner this time. again i took my time to find a girl that pleases me. i found one who spoke barely a few words in french. she was petite, big b breast above the average, nice firm ass and body. i did not ask her age but i do no think she was more than 22 years old. we did not have so much of a conversation, just a few words from time to time. it was not a problem for us as when we met i just took her hand and we went dancing. after 30 minutes, we went to my hotel. this girl was in raw sex: she wanted to be taken directly with a minimum preliminary. i fucked her once that night she wanted to do the cow girl after i came the first. i was too tired and i just wanted to sleep more that night. i did not fuck her in the morning either although she would have like it too. she decided to leave after 7 am. before she left, i gave some ariary. again this girl also did not try to see how much i gave her. she just took it and made me understand if i wanted we could meet again.

according to my latest experiences in tana, it is not too difficult to find a non pro girl if you know this city and the scene in the center enough. moreover during my time i managed to have phone numbers from 2 girls currently available but i could not put them in my bed as my time in tana was limited at the end. with internet, do not forget that is also possible to get in contact with girls. telma has highly increased the speed of internet connexion. i have tried it in a cybercafé in a popular place and the difference is huge compared to to my previous visit: it is not that slow anymore compared to the past.

Member #4178

01-14-13, 20:10

I have a ticket to Mombasa on March thinking to add 10 days in Mada.

However, Due to the cyclones, Tulear is the only option. Not sure if it worth the effort.

Mottov

01-15-13, 09:31

Member #4178

01-15-13, 18:02

[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1373373]Hey John is there a cheap way of flying from Mombasa to Mada? I looked once but couldn't find anything.Travelling is never cheap. Its around 700us$ with air Mad from Nairobi.

Amadeuss

01-17-13, 02:03

[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1373373]I have a ticket to Mombasa on March thinking to add 10 days in Mada.

Hey John is there a cheap way of flying from Mombasa to Mada? I looked once but couldn't find anything.Because the flights to Mada are all expensive, its worth to use your miles for it. If you got Star Alliance miles, go by TG from BKK or SAA from Europe via Jo-Burg. Or on Skymiles take AF from Europe. Only disadvantage: you need to book early as on those flights they only allow 2 or 4 seats on mileage redemption.

BrasilSoccer0

01-17-13, 11:19

Gents, I want to know what towns, hotels you all recommend for my first visit?

Not interested in the p4p scene. Just good supply of true sweet natured GFE young girls and nice beaches.

BS.

BrasilSoccer0

01-17-13, 11:26

I am looking for a one way ticket from Adu-dabi for at least $1, 000 USD!

BTW, I've travelled to different countries with a one way ticket and never once asked to show return flight. Will that be a problem in Mada airport? I am a US national.

BS.

[QUOTE=Mottov; 1373596]Travelling is never cheap. Its around 700us$ with air Mad from Nairobi.

BrasilSoccer0

01-17-13, 12:38

VB and JP,

I get what you both have said in this thread; Get out of Tana and head out to small country and coastal towns to find truly nice sweetheart. Totally agree and get it. ADVENTURE, DISCOVERY and REWARD.

With that being said, how clean are these girls from the small towns? I am talking about overall body and pussy hygiene? Are they affected by lack of clean running water and unafforded body cleaning products? Do you advice stocking up on female hygiene supplies including body wash and shampoo?

JP, I saw your video. Very nice!

Ps.

Vahaza Be

01-17-13, 16:12

In my experience, Malagasy women are very hygiene conscious, even in the boondocks. Most of the time, they will ask to shower back in your room before the fun begins. It's worth the wait!

But they like western toiletries, so bring fancy soaps, shampoos and perfume. They also apprerciate lingerie, as JP's old posts show.

Have fun and report back!

VB.

VB and JP,

I get what you both have said in this thread; Get out of Tana and head out to small country and coastal towns to find truly nice sweetheart. Totally agree and get it. ADVENTURE, DISCOVERY and REWARD.

With that being said, how clean are these girls from the small towns? I am talking about overall body and pussy hygiene? Are they affected by lack of clean running water and unafforded body cleaning products? Do you advice stocking up on female hygiene supplies including body wash and shampoo?

JP, I saw your video. Very nice!

Ps.

Member #4178

01-17-13, 18:45

so bring fancy soaps, shampoos and perfume. They also apprerciate lingerie, as JP's old posts show.Bring everything (Camera, music, gifts, lingerie etc).

In Sambava girls are in a bad shape since they are poor so this is the time to take out your gifts and start playing.

BrasilSoccer0

01-18-13, 00:34

And let's not forget chocolate candy. LOL sounds just like Cuba's little towns!

JP. I will be using my galaxy 3s phone camera. I know it's not like your nice canon but it should do.

Yes, I will visit "Sambava". I know you also recommended "Morandava and Antalaha". That's for sure. I am not totally convinced on the $50 SUV and driver rental yet. Maybe if they keep the driver and give me a GPS and a more reasonable rate.

BTW, I googled Madagascar women photos and found some showing topless women net fishing on a nice secluded beach from any tourism! In fact no men anywhere around! Dose anyone have an idea where that might be? In the background I see lots of living huts / shacks. Looks like a place I'll be visiting.

BS.

Bring everything (Camera, music, gifts, lingerie etc).

In Sambava girls are in a bad shape since they are poor so this is the time to take out your gifts and start playing.

Amadeuss

01-18-13, 06:37

. I am not totally convinced on the $50 SUV and driver rental yet. Maybe if they keep the driver and give me a GPS and a more reasonable rate.

BTW, I googled Madagascar women photos and found some showing topless women net fishing on a nice secluded beach from any tourism! In fact no men anywhere around! Dose anyone have an idea where that might be? In the background I see lots of living huts / shacks. Looks like a place I'll be visiting.

BS.The pics on: zyalt.livejournal.com/502691.html are taken at the east coast, Panglanes Channel. But its a closed fishing-community. Eye candy yes. Mongering if lucky.

Rent a car w / o driver difficult to get and if then only in Tana. 1-way rent not possible. A small 4WD will set you back 60. 80-US$ + gasoline: calculate for 1000 Km to use 140 l = 300-US$ in addition. Having a car a week will set you back easy 1000-US$ in total.

Alternative: Rent a motobike, Honda Transalp, for 40-EU / day. Takes you anywhere.

GPS: only a simple map software is existing. No details and most desert pathes missing. But you can follow the stars.

Member #4178

01-18-13, 15:44

GPS: only a simple map software is existing. No details and most desert paths missing. But you can follow the stars.Thanks for Botaki link.

I have used google maps with offline maps for android. The only difficulties was at masoala national park since no road there but else-ware was fine. I had 3 spare batteries for my sony Xperia. Offline Navigation is not supported yet but you can see your location on google maps. Its also helpful to download compass App.

Meeting new friends is easy, even in air Mada flights. I got a good seat so mongering was Inevitable.

BrasilSoccer0

01-28-13, 09:41

JP,

When you say ". The south are more wild with less restrictions. Lawless Atmosphere." Can you be more specific? Are you referring to women, security, crime. Did you feel unsafe, especially during night time? Or is it lots of naked poor uncivilized people?

When you say south, you mean MORONDAVA mainly or other towns?

BS.

I have posted many photos and info from Morondava. Look again.

For me, flying all the way to Mada require finding some serious GFE sex bombs. I was frustrated by the low volume action at morondava and sambava but if you have time to kill then you can easily hang around there with the same girl for a whole week. The few girls I met at morondava were super eager. I also think that the south are more wild with less restrictions. Lawless Atmosphere.

Again, if you liked Diego girls then morondava will serve you well as far as quality.

The following photos, illustrates the morondava main concept: You and a girl alone at the beach just outside your hotel. Night-time absolutely nothing to do.

New disco is almost ready or ready now "moro9. Jpg" at the same place that the old one that is closed. Next to hotel les philaos

Member #4178

01-28-13, 11:01

JP,

When you say ". The south are more wild with less restrictions. Lawless Atmosphere." Can you be more specific? Are you referring to women, security, crime. Did you feel unsafe, especially during night time? Or is it lots of naked poor uncivilized people?

When you say south, you mean MORONDAVA mainly or other towns?

BS.For MORONDAVA Lawless Atmosphere is more about mongering wise. No evidence for crime as far as I know. In Morandava as with any other town, walking at night is not going to happen just because you have no place to go for. Its bloody dark, no shops no people. If there is a single club at weekend just take one of the hotel stuff as I did in Antalaha. Small towns is about getting the girls in daytime.

Hotels don't check I'd in morondava, sambava and Antalaha. This is not true for the cities which law is enforced. South of Morondava is not safe and very poor. If you want to experience the soute just fly to morondava for 3 days and you will understand what I meant by wild. I liked the photos sessions I did in morondava exotic beach.

Madagascar can be very poor and unpleasant as much as amazing and unforgettable its depend where you go. For me the only route is from Tamateve to Antalaha while both nature and monering is superb. Here you will feel like an explorer in a pristine environment.

Diego, Toliara and mahajanga are for hard-core mongers mainly residents, far from coconut beach mongering destinations.

Vahaza Be

01-28-13, 15:58

BrasilSoccer0

01-29-13, 00:12

That's great to hear about Morondava (love these exotic names). I have it on my list with Sambava and Antalaha and will venture to places NO TOURIST ever sat foot in!

So far I am leaning towards Antalaha based on your reports. It will be my base for a while. And will hire " PAUL" like you've recommended. Please tell me about "PAUL" his help for you, what you judge fair to pay him. Etc.

I am not sure about money exchange in little towns! I have two debit / ATM cards: VISA and MC. And of course, I can bring cash (USD) but for obvious reasons I prefer not to do:

- Do you get a better, similar or worse exchange from ATM withdrawal?

- Which is better: Banks, black market, or those Indian exchange shops?

Thanks JP, I find your preferences very similar to mine including your adventurous style of mongering. Thanks a lot.

For MORONDAVA Lawless Atmosphere is more about mongering wise. No evidence for crime as far as I know. In Morandava as with any other town, walking at night is not going to happen just because you have no place to go for. Its bloody dark, no shops no people. If there is a single club at weekend just take one of the hotel stuff as I did in Antalaha. Small towns is about getting the girls in daytime.

Hotels don't check I'd in morondava, sambava and Antalaha. This is not true for the cities which law is enforced. South of Morondava is not safe and very poor. If you want to experience the soute just fly to morondava for 3 days and you will understand what I meant by wild. I liked the photos sessions I did in morondava exotic beach.

Madagascar can be very poor and unpleasant as much as amazing and unforgettable its depend where you go. For me the only route is from Tamateve to Antalaha while both nature and monering is superb. Here you will feel like an explorer in a pristine environment.

Diego, Toliara and mahajanga are for hard-core mongers mainly residents, far from coconut beach mongering destinations.

Member #4178

01-29-13, 00:28

Thanks a lot.Only visa card forget about MC. ATM are all over no need for case.

But we do need more photos, go get them.

Amadeuss

01-29-13, 01:52

You want wild? You want south?

Try Tulear (Toliary). Rasta girls galore.

But be careful!

VbYes: Tulear, Ifaty, Mangily and a bit further north: Morondava: SSS (sun sea sex)

BrasilSoccer0

01-29-13, 11:11

I know you love photography and filming. I am not as involved as you are in that part of the hobby but I do my fair photo taking.

I use my phone camara, no dslr or videos here! You can get a taste of it in my report on Medellin thread.

Mada will be a later trip around late may. Medellin first in a week!

Gracias amigo.

BS.

Only visa card forget about MC. ATM are all over no need for case.

But we do need more photos, go get them.

BrasilSoccer0

01-29-13, 11:19

Botaki,

Nice capture of these ladies lovely smiles. They have nice facial aspects and they look different than the many girls I've seen on this thread! Are those the rasta girls from the south? What's their ethnicity and geography.

Nice!

BS.

Yes: Tulear, Ifaty, Mangily and a bit further north: Morondava: SSS (sun sea sex)

BrasilSoccer0

01-29-13, 11:22

VB,

Yes, I want to venture in the south. But be careful of what?

BS.

You want wild? You want south?

Try Tulear (Toliary). Rasta girls galore.

But be careful!

Vb

Vahaza Be

01-29-13, 22:45

VB,

Yes, I want to venture in the south. But be careful of what?

BS.Hustlers and old-fashioned bandits. Foreigners are assumed to have cash and possesions worth stealing. Use common sense and don't wander around late at night alone.

Joe Perez

02-01-13, 06:38

Anybody have been already in Morombe?

I know very well Tulear and Ifaty-Mangily but I'm looking for some other good spot. Real exotic.

Thanks for your advise

Member #4178

02-02-13, 08:33

Anybody have been already in Morombe?

I know very well Tulear and Ifaty-Mangily but I'm looking for some other good spot. Real exotic.

Thanks for your adviseI wend to air Mad office at Morondava asking for it, they said the flight is once a week so you need at least a week for returned.

Going by 4x4 takes all day so I tried the next hope which is Belo-sur-mer but no taxis-brousses and the guy with the pirogue asked for 100US$ One way. I also asked the manager of my hotel but it was hard to get that info even for belo which is the next town.

Eventually I gave up my dream to see the isolated versions of Morondava and went to mahajanga instead. Interesting to note that some destinations require only one ticket (I. E Morondava to mahajanga) , while most of them you will need to buy two separate tickets when Tana is the hub.

Amadeuss

02-05-13, 02:02

You can do the big circle: Tana. Morondava. Tulear. Tolagnaro. Tana. The flight doing this round is going 2 times a week. But the ticket is not cheap: more then 600 EU.

Tolagnaro = Ft Dauphin is another pearl of the south with not many reports but ample opportunities to discover.

OpenRoad

02-06-13, 09:48

In Morandava as with any other town, walking at night is not going to happen just because you have no place to go for. Its bloody dark, no shops no people. If there is a single club at weekend just take one of the hotel stuff as I did in Antalaha. Small towns is about getting the girls in daytime.Hi guys,

This is my first post here. Really enjoy the informed recommendations from all participants. I've been mongering for many years but I will arrive in Madagascar for the first time this July. Will be hiring a motorbike and heading west to Morondava, so after sampling the action in the capital, I will be stopping in Antsirabe and Morondava for a while. John P, is there no pub or club action at all during the week in Morondava? My ability to understand and speak French is very poor, but I'll probably be able to learn a few basic phases before arriving and have a few key Malagasy ones ready as a back up at best. As an English speaking gent from Australia, hooking up with the local talent probably won't be a problem in the usual haunts at night, but daytime success with regular ladies might be a challenge due to the language barrier and likely to be a bit hit and miss for me. Other than the beach in the daytime, any shopping mall, cafe or other joint worth checking out? What is the name of this new club almost finished and ready to open?

Thanks guys. Will also be up in Nosy Be later in the trip. Also, yell out if you're likely to be in one of these general areas in July.

Cheers,

Openroad

Amadeuss

02-07-13, 01:12

Will be hiring a motorbike and heading west to Morondava, so after sampling the action in the capital, I will be stopping in Antsirabe and Morondava for a while. .

Other than the beach in the daytime, any shopping mall, cafe or other joint worth checking out?

OpenroadGood choice, mate. You got a Transalp or a BMW1000? How much they charging now? In Aust you got offroads with hard surface. But here you find loose sand or deep mud. Hope you are used to ride that.

With a moto you are center of attention on the road in the smaller towns. Don't forget, it will take you 3 days at least to go from Tana to Morondava. Pick up girls on the go. Get some Malagasy phrases ready as in the brousse hardly anyone speaks french.

There are no "shopping malls" or stuff as that in Mada. Its outback at the best, mate.

FindGirls

02-07-13, 07:52

Well Openroad wherever you go by moto, I really would advise you to drive by day only. At night, thieves could block the road to get some money. It has already been said in this forum that Madagascar has become more and more insecure. From time to time, there are police controls at specific places on the road but they remain at the same place.

The real barrier with Malagasy girls interested in you at day is the first step, whether she understands you or not. Of course you can learn of few words of French and Malagasy but sometimes you have to improvise. I can assure you that a vazaha (a foreigner) catches more attention. Your chances are really high wherever you go.

It looks like some of you wants to see other towns in Madagascar so I would like to make a correction about credit cards, prepaid or not.

Only visa card forget about MC. ATM are all over no need for case.

But we do need more photos, go get them.Since my second trip in Tana 7 years ago I take 2 cards: Visa and MC. In fact now you can use both Mastercards and Visa cards in Madagascar (in the past there were ATM for visa only and ATM for Mastercards). Visa can be used in all ATMs. Mastercard only with ATM from 2 or 3 Banks.

I have not used all of them lately but here is the list of banks with a link of their agencies and ATMs all over the country. The links are in French. Most shows maps so you will have no problem understanding with it.

BNI. MC and Visa.

www.bni.mg/pdf/Carte_reseau.pdf

BMOI. Visa only.

www.bmoinet.net/agences-a-madagascar

BFV SG. Visa and (now apparently) MC. I have not tried to use this ATM lately I cannot confirm for MC.

www.bfvsg.mg/agences_province.html

BOA (Bank of Africa). Visa and maybe MC (I think I used MC with this one, but I have to confirm after another trip).

www.boa.mg/banque-madagascar-agences

MCB (Mauritius Commercial Bank). Visa and MC (and also Maestro as it shows). I used the ATM in Tamatave using both Visa and MC.

http://www.mcbmadagascar.com/decouvrez/implantations.asp

I have not tried ATM of other banks. If you did, feel free to add it.

These banks could allow you to open a non resident account if you bring too much cash on your way.

Finally Mobile operators offers local people to have their money assigned to your sim card. Appart from your own cash, it could be helpful for the persons who go to places without ATM. The services include the possibility to tranfer money from your credit card directly to the person / company / budget hotels. The ones that I know are:

- Mvola (from Telma) working with Western Union (high transaction fees with WU and they take too much margin on the FX). NO links provided.

- Orange Money: transaction fee only 5 EUR (6. 5 USD) and reasonable FX margin. In fact if you register your account, you can even send money to yourself with a maximum of 5 000 000 ariary (MGA). However the waiting time is too long for me (long queues) and I am not sure that you can a high amount of cash at any place.

www.orange.mg/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=99&id=888&Itemid=1260

- Airtel (former Zain I think). This is new one. I do not have any info. It seems that they will offer their service in the post offices.

Last but not least, currently mobile and smartphones are a bigger target for thieves. You can understand why. So if you bring your own phone, you should keep it in your hotel when possible and buy a cheaper one locally.

I hope it helps.

OpenRoad

02-07-13, 08:46

You got a Transalp or a BMW1000? How much they charging now?

With a moto you are center of attention on the road in the smaller towns. Don't forget, it will take you 3 days at least to go from Tana to Morondava. Pick up girls on the go.Hey thanks Botaki. I'm really excited about my first foray into the Mada mongering scene. A German ex-pat based in the capital is renting me a Transalp for 60 Euro a day. Probably paying way to much but at least the guy speaks English and has locked one in so I can arrive in peak season and not have to worry about any limited number of bikes available. I plan to overnight in Antsirabe both ways, and with an early start out of Antsirabe was hopeful of making Morondava in one day without having to overnight in Miandrivazo. Anyone here scored in Miandrivazo? Supposed to be a rough and ready river town and one of the hottest places climate-wise in Mada.

Surely Antsirabe must have some form of mini monger scene. I read a comment from Vahaza Be in December that the Hotel Le Diamant in Antsirabe is attached to a disco, so that must be worth a look at least. Wonder if any of the local pousse pousse drivers will be able to steer me in the right direction. Look forward to the challenge of latching onto something half decent in one of these lesser known mongering places.

To start of with, I was thinking of staying at the Tana Hotel in Analakely in the capital or perhaps the Colbert as they're very near Le Caveau and Le Palladium. Assume they are girl friendly places.

Cheers,

Openroad

OpenRoad

02-07-13, 21:45

well openroad wherever you go by moto, i really would advise you to drive by day only. at night, thieves could block the road to get some money. it has already been said in this forum that madagascar has become more and more insecure. from time to time, there are police controls at specific places on the road but they remain at the same place.great advice fg and excellent research and info on money. i have read about the dangers of riding / driving at night in madagscar, especially along long isolated stretches where there no alternatives for a detour. wonder how they block the road usually, by vehicle, barriers? i'd be looking for the shoulder of the road to motor on through at reasonable speed if i was faced with that situation i suppose. but yes, i do intend to travel only by day through the countryside.

i arrive just after the general election this year so i hope all goes down well with the people. but hey. it's been postponed so many times already, it's no certainty, right.

Member #4178

02-08-13, 09:50

so I would like to make a correction about credit cardsThe benefit of visa is mainly in Air-Mad offices when you purchase a domestic ticket. Sometimes the stuff will insist on visa.

Joe Perez

02-19-13, 09:24

Air madagascar just update some flights schedule.

At the moment there is the flight morombe.morondava once weekly (every Thursday) cost 150 euro one way.

My travel plan will be: Tulear. Morombe with taxi brousse, Morombe. Morondava flight, Morondava. Fianarantsoa (just a stop) and then Manakara-Mananjary.

Anybody have been in these places on the east coast? Any update?

If the flight between morombe and morondava will be cancelled, I'll change my plans. No way to make the 3 days trip between the 2 towns.

I wend to air Mad office at Morondava asking for it, they said the flight is once a week so you need at least a week for returned.

Going by 4x4 takes all day so I tried the next hope which is Belo-sur-mer but no taxis-brousses and the guy with the pirogue asked for 100US$ One way. I also asked the manager of my hotel but it was hard to get that info even for belo which is the next town.

Eventually I gave up my dream to see the isolated versions of Morondava and went to mahajanga instead. Interesting to note that some destinations require only one ticket (I. E Morondava to mahajanga) , while most of them you will need to buy two separate tickets when Tana is the hub.

Joe Perez

02-19-13, 10:55

I wend to air Mad office at Morondava asking for it, they said the flight is once a week so you need at least a week for returned.

Going by 4x4 takes all day so I tried the next hope which is Belo-sur-mer but no taxis-brousses and the guy with the pirogue asked for 100US$ One way. I also asked the manager of my hotel but it was hard to get that info even for belo which is the next town.

Eventually I gave up my dream to see the isolated versions of Morondava and went to mahajanga instead. Interesting to note that some destinations require only one ticket (I. E Morondava to mahajanga) , while most of them you will need to buy two separate tickets when Tana is the hub.Air madagascar just update some flight schedule.

Now there is flight between morombe and morondava, every Thursday, cost 150 euro one way.

So if the flight will be confirmed (I'm not going to make the 3 days trip between morombe and morondava) my plan is.

Tulear-morombe-morondava. (every stop few days)

Morondava-fianarantsoa (just one night stop. Not interested in betsileo tribe)

Fianarantsoa-manakara-mananjary.

Nobody looks like have been to Morombe but I'll give a try.

Anybody have udate on manakara-mananjary?

Joe Perez

02-19-13, 11:05

Hey thanks Botaki. I'm really excited about my first foray into the Mada mongering scene. A German ex-pat based in the capital is renting me a Transalp for 60 Euro a day. Probably paying way to much but at least the guy speaks English and has locked one in so I can arrive in peak season and not have to worry about any limited number of bikes available. I plan to overnight in Antsirabe both ways, and with an early start out of Antsirabe was hopeful of making Morondava in one day without having to overnight in Miandrivazo. Anyone here scored in Miandrivazo? Supposed to be a rough and ready river town and one of the hottest places climate-wise in Mada.

Surely Antsirabe must have some form of mini monger scene. I read a comment from Vahaza Be in December that the Hotel Le Diamant in Antsirabe is attached to a disco, so that must be worth a look at least. Wonder if any of the local pousse pousse drivers will be able to steer me in the right direction. Look forward to the challenge of latching onto something half decent in one of these lesser known mongering places.

To start of with, I was thinking of staying at the Tana Hotel in Analakely in the capital or perhaps the Colbert as they're very near Le Caveau and Le Palladium. Assume they are girl friendly places.

Cheers,

OpenroadYou are a brave man. Open road. But.

I'd not trust at all to travel by motorbike alone in the whole Madagascar. Actual situation is not easy, and, like you say, your french language skills are very low.

Stay on the classic spots if you can. Otherwise. Good luck.

Antisrabe? Real nothing special. Betsileo and merina of the hills. Not easy to pick and not special picks too.

Vahaza Be

02-19-13, 19:38

Anybody have udate on manakara-mananjary?It's been a while since I was in Mananjary. Pretty quiet fishing village, but with a nice group of bungalows near the beach. Sorry, can't remember the name. Fun to watch the women fish topless with their nets just off the beach in the morning.

No disco at that time (a decade ago) , but 2 cuties approached me after dark. They took turns kissing and blowing me outside in the open. Great fun. Repeated the next night. Good luck!

Vavy Lover

02-19-13, 21:12

Hi Joe,

Personally I would skip Morombe. Was there a couple years ago and found it to be dead and difficult to find action. I know Toliara well, and it is paradise for me, best girls on the island and if you are familiar with it you know what mean and know my taste. I had a lot of fun in Morondava, visited once for a few days, great non-pro girls, had 4 in 3 days, but found their beauty was not on par with Toliara (no where else is, from my experience. See my former posts) and the selection was much much smaller.

Good luck. Kamo.

Anybody have been already in Morombe?

I know very well Tulear and Ifaty-Mangily but I'm looking for some other good spot. Real exotic.

Thanks for your advise

Joe Perez

02-20-13, 01:49

Hi Joe,

Personally I would skip Morombe. Was there a couple years ago and found it to be dead and difficult to find action. I know Toliara well, and it is paradise for me, best girls on the island and if you are familiar with it you know what mean and know my taste. I had a lot of fun in Morondava, visited once for a few days, great non-pro girls, had 4 in 3 days, but found their beauty was not on par with Toliara (no where else is, from my experience. See my former posts) and the selection was much much smaller.

Good luck. Kamo.Thanks Kamo.

I do agree on Tulear.

My first choice in the whole Madagascar. I'll be back also this year even if I've been already quite a few times and that's why I'm looking somewhere else in the area.

Member #4349

03-06-13, 11:20

Member #4349

03-06-13, 21:01

Amadeuss

03-07-13, 02:47

And whilst I'm asking questions what is a good daily budget, food\drink\daytime girl\evening out\nighttime girl\accommodation etc.

I'll be there 7-10 days max. I'll be focussing on pussy, not wildlife, trees or other distractions.Nosy Be is still ok as a SeaSunSex destination. But at that time of the year it can be wet and rainy there, as it can be all over the north.

To get a more aboriginal feel, I would fly south: Tana > Morondava, stay there a couple of days and then fly on to Tulear, explore Ifaty. If you still got time, fly on to Ft Dauphin: not much talked about here but a nice spot for our hobby. From there back to Tana.

Budget in those towns down south with 10. 000 MGA = 3. 50 EU: Food 30. 000 MGA / day. Bungalows / rooms 40.000 > 150. 000 MGA / day' depending on your standard, daytime beach pick up 10.000 > 20. 000 MGA, evening 20. 000 for drinks and 20.000 > 30. 000 MGA for the sleeping companion.

Biggest expenses will be the domestic flights: approximately 170-EU each sector, and they not going each day. Book early and enjoy, mate!

Member #4349

03-07-13, 16:29

Nosy Be is still ok as a SeaSunSex destination. But at that time of the year it can be wet and rainy there, as it can be all over the north.

To get a more aboriginal feel, I would fly south: Tana Morondava, stay there a couple of days and then fly on to Tulear, explore Ifaty. If you still got time, fly on to Ft Dauphin: not much talked about here but a nice spot for our hobby. From there back to Tana.

Budget in those towns down south with 10. 000 MGA = 3. 50 EU: Food 30. 000 MGA / day. Bungalows / rooms 40. 000 150. 000 MGA / day' depending on your standard, daytime beach pick up 10. 000 20. 000 MGA, evening 20. 000 for drinks and 20. 000 30. 000 MGA for the sleeping companion.

Biggest expenses will be the domestic flights: approximately 170-EU each sector, and they not going each day. Book early and enjoy, mate!Thanks, glad to hear its that economical. Is there plenty of choice in the more aboriginal areas? My understanding is that culture doesn't frown too much on poor ladies "freelancing" although in the bigger towns the authorities are trying to stop this form of self-help, so I hope the rural areas are more "traditional" in their approach to tourists.

Amadeuss

03-08-13, 06:53

I hope the rural areas are more "traditional" in their approach to tourists.No French spoken, only Malagasy. And you will be the attention of the "kraal"

OpenRoad

03-09-13, 09:33

Member #4178

03-23-13, 17:20

Talked to my friend that lives in Mada he said many vhazas got murdered while brutal crime is a routine. The country is in chaos and many expats left to Thailand.

Air mad flight can be delayed for days. He left nosy bay and live now in Sambava, his favorite place for mongering is maroantsetra but this guy is in deep panic.

Amadeuss

03-24-13, 04:00

Talked to my friend that lives in Mada he said many vhazas got murdered while brutal crime is a routine. The country is in chaos and many expats left to Thailand.

Air mad flight can be delayed for days.Prove please. Nothing in the Mada newspapers except the regular crimes between locals. Flight delayed for days? Hersay.

Member #4178

03-24-13, 06:43

Prove please. Nothing in the Mada newspapers except the regular crimes between locals. Flight delayed for days? Hersay.My source is a friend of mine, a 60 years old french expat. We normally talk one in while on skype as we have met in Mada.

The most safer places are in the area of the vanilla coast, mahajanga and tamateve when the more isolated area of vanilla coast is more safer.

Toliara, Diego, nosybay, Tana are nightmare especially for expats. I trust him while he looked so disappointed. It may be possible to travel but only with a low profile only at the areas that I mention but again take a few days spare for flight delay.

Botaki, I know you are a fan of Toliara but I strongly suggest to visit only the places I have mention. I have many reason to encourage visitors but this is first hand info from expat that actually lived there.

Personally, if I had the money and time I would replace my trip this week to Uganda with Mada's Vanilla coast and keep a few days spare for the returned flight delay. (I saw it myself delay for 24h)

If you do speak french PM me for his email, you can even have a drink with him in sambava while he is supper funny and a great monger.

Amadeuss

03-25-13, 11:37

Botaki, I know you are a fan of Toliara. .Not really a fan of only the south. But a fan of l'ile rouge in total: the nature, beaches, lifestyle, food and yes. Les boxes. .

I do read weekly L'express de Mada and other newspapers to catch up on whats happening on the political, economical and social scene. I do not notice any extreme changes. Mada is still considered more safe then most African countries. But perhaps unsafe for Mr and Mdm Miller, dressed up in their finest and having a walk from the Sakamanga after dinner to their hotel on Place the' Independence at 11pm. Also not cuddly-safe for expat guys running a business in Toliara and then stepping on some local influential toes. That will end up with bullets sprayed into their 4WD on the RN7 (as what happend a year ago). But it happens in other countries as well.

And yes, flights can get cancelled. It happened before. Its painful if there's only 1 flight a week. Air Mad is a shit airline with no competition.

John. I understand your concerns and appreciate warnings if founded. But still. Once the Mada-cancer is in you, you can't get rid of it. So, newcomers: beware!

Thanks for the offer: love to share a GHB avec Msieur Mécontent. PM you on time.

Salut!

Member #4349

03-26-13, 01:30

Vavy Lover

04-11-13, 09:06

Realistically how dangerous to a white middle aged euro monger is madagascar?

Relative to Kenya, Mombasa for example. Will I be the only euro guy in the capital? Or one of only a few? And how about nosy be. I've heard its a big french tourist hang-out, but realistically will there be a euro presence or will (like some places in ethiopia I've been to) I be the only guy with a white (pink in the sun?) skin?

I'm not talking about the Bush or rural areas where I just won't have time to visit, I'll be in the capital and maybe Nosy Be.I think the concerns about safety are somewhat overblown here. I have made regular visits since the 2009 coup, and yes it has become quite a bit rougher. However in the places you would be going, Tana, Nosy Be, Toliara, as long as you are smart you are safe. Stay at a decent hotel (avoid the cheapest dives) , travel the well trafficed areas, taxis to get around at night. And there are plenty of Vazaha (white folk) around in all these places, particularly in Nosy Be (like in Ambatoloaka, the main mongering town) , so you will not be alone at the bars and discos. I have only been to Mombasa once, and it was far more intimidating than any place I have been in Madagascar, although that could be a result of familiarity.

Vavy Lover

04-11-13, 19:07

I may be able to fly in from mauritius end of July.

The capital seems a bit chaotic. Given I only have a few days, what would be my best itinerary for this island?

I speak French badly, and I like beaches. (and bitches.). The idea of a nice bungalow near to a beach is appealing. More appealing if the beach is well stocked with local ladies keen to meet white men.

Nosy Be has the media spotlight, but is it still going strong? Are there any better less publicised locations I should investigate. From the condition of the roads it appears I shouldn't bother with road travel in the short time I'd have there.Hi Biffa,

You received some good advice from Botaki, and I thought I would give you another perspective. Morondava is a fun place, and probably safer then some other spots, as it sees less tourism. But I also found that the action is less, with not as many girls. Particularly if you are going for the first time to Madagascar, and are savvy in Africa, I would recommend:

Fly to Toliara from Tana (as said by Botaki, about 170Euro per leg on Air Mad). Stay on the main waterfront strip at the Plaza Sud (AR25,000) or more upscale at the Paletuvier (about AR70, 000) about 400m up the road to the north. Avoid places to the south of Plaza Sud, where the street is dark at night and danger lurks. The strip from south to north from Plaza Sud to Paletuvier to the disco Za-Za Club is fairly well lit and well trafficed. During the afternoon and evenings you can find action at the BoBeach (and good food at AR10, 000-20, 000 / meal, as well as drinking partners) , right next to Plaza Sud. At night there are two discos, one next to Paletuvier (forget the name) and Za-Za Club, about another 3-400m north from Paletuvier. As it says on the sign, Za-Za is Paradise. I have found no where else the collection of beauty that is regularly there, particularly thur-sun. And they tend to be wonderful and very adventurous. Gets going late, after 11pm or midnight. I walk there as long as there are still people on the rode, and pousse-pousse or taxi back to the hotel with your catch.

Problem with Toliara, is no good beach. You have to go north to Ifaty, or boat south to Anakao (where there is no monger scene). If you want beaches, I recommend you spend a couple nights in Ifaty, where the girls are the most intense in the SW scene. Find a taxi in Toliara that will take you (ask at your hotel) , and only during daylight hours, preferably morning, about 1-2 hours on a very bumpy road. Many hotels on the beach, varying in price, no recommendations. I think weekends are best there for the disco, but action on the beach by day. Both of these places have a fair amount of Vazaha, more expats then tourists, but there will be fellow mongerers around.

Alternatively, you could go to Nosy Be, fly into Hellville, and taxi up to Ambatoloaka, many hotels right on the beach. This is the biggest scene on all of Madagascar, so many many girls, and a higher chance to get ripped off (either by a girl or petty crime). And many Vazaha, much more than in Toliara, so you will not be alone. I have had a few disappointing and even bad experiences here, but it is a wild place and I have had some remarkable experiences as well. On the girls, I find them generally not to be as beautiful as the SW girls in Toliara. I would say the top 5% in Nosy Be, are comparable to the top 25-50% in Toliara. And I find that results in the prettiest girls in Nosy Be being more spoiled and expecting more, and more like pros, whereas in Toliara the same or prettier tend to be less assuming and less demanding, and less professional in general.

Also, my French sucks, but a little goes a long way, and moreso if you learn a few Malagasy words.

Those are my 2 cents. Have fun.

VL

Member #4349

04-14-13, 11:03

Hi Biffa,

You received some good advice from Botaki, and I thought I would give you another perspective. Morondava is a fun place, and probably safer then some other spots, as it sees less tourism. But I also found that the action is less, with not as many girls. Particularly if you are going for the first time to Madagascar, and are savvy in Africa, I would recommend.

Also, my French sucks, but a little goes a long way, and moreso if you learn a few Malagasy words.

Those are my 2 cents. Have fun.

VLI have a little french can converse slowly, but thats enough to break the ice.

And I'm africa savvy which helps. (ie I don't expect ANYTHING to work or be on time or to be as advertised.)

As I've strictly limited time I need to hit the hot spots and quickly so flying is it. 3-4 days in the capital and 4-5 days in nosy be seems about right.

This seems a similar vibe to mtwapa in kenya, but perhaps less commercialised, and less organised (and significantly cheaper) , I'll find out in a few weeks\months

Vavy Lover

04-15-13, 14:15

I have a little french can converse slowly, but thats enough to break the ice.

And I'm africa savvy which helps. (ie I don't expect ANYTHING to work or be on time or to be as advertised.)

As I've strictly limited time I need to hit the hot spots and quickly so flying is it. 3-4 days in the capital and 4-5 days in nosy be seems about right.

This seems a similar vibe to mtwapa in kenya, but perhaps less commercialised, and less organised (and significantly cheaper) , I'll find out in a few weeks\monthsTana. I typically try to spend as little time as possible there, just dirty and unpleasant, and right now the least secure. Most of the best girls are from the coasts, and you do get a wide cross section. The best times are when a Toliara band plays at Glacier, then all the Toliara girls come out! Some recs for good but cheaper hotels that are central: Hotel Aina (next to Disco Le 6) , Hotel Sun City (next to Sakamanga) , Merina Lodge (up the street from last). Cabaret Glacier is always the best evening stop. 7or8pm-11pm or midnight, live malagasy music and lots of girls. Also the Manson bar at top of hill up from Sakamanga is a relatively new hotspot, gets going earlier than discos around 10pm or so. As for the discos, Le Caveau had long been a gritty favorite, and on the weekends Le 6 is more chic and upscale, and sometimes has a remarkable selection. Recently discovered an alternative if you are looking for non-pro student types. Ku De Ta disco in the Hilton (not the restaurant, completely different part of town). Seems this is where the "good girls" go, mostly Merina from Tana or highlands, to avoid the places where the "makoreli" or "pute" (pros and semi-pros) from the coasts go, but I think there are plenty looking for a Vazaha for the night (although they will be more of a game / challenge and less a sure bet).

Again, I think I would recommend spending less time in Tana (2 nights max) , and doing Toliara / Ifaty (3/3nights) over Nosy Be. BTW, flights to both Toliara and Nosy Be are very reliable, may be delayed a few hours but typically you will not find the nightmare cancellations on those routes.

Docjan

04-25-13, 12:29

Hi,

Tomorrow I return to Mada. Arriving late Friday evening. Stay the first nights at Glacier. Then continue to Toamasina. Not decided yet how long to stay there. Anyone of you staying in Madagascar now. Could be nice to meet over a beer and have some talk. Here are some pictures from last trip (2008). More vill come. This is Juliette, a nice 19 year old from Morondova. She was study to nurse.

Docjan

04-25-13, 12:40

Hi here are some more girls. From Manakara

Docjan

04-25-13, 20:29

Here comes? The pictures

Docjan

04-25-13, 20:49

Last time I met these girls in Manakara.

Amadeuss

04-27-13, 04:03

Last time I met these girls in Manakara.Nice pics. Tell us more about Manakara. Did you go there by train from Fiana or by taxi brousse? Where did you stay? Where did you pick up the boxes?

Vavy Lover

04-30-13, 18:22

Nice pics. Tell us more about Manakara. Did you go there by train from Fiana or by taxi brousse? Where did you stay? Where did you pick up the boxes?Yes, please do tell about Manakara. I am totally unfamiliar with it. What is nearby and are there other reasons to go, parks, beaches etc?

Thanks

Vavy Lover

04-30-13, 23:23

Docjan's photos inspired me. Last year in Nosy Be I hit a milestone. My 99th Malagasy girl, and that is counting only the ones I fucked, not random BJs here and there. (yes, I have kept count). So since there hasn't been a whole lot of photos lately, I thought I would share a bit and perhaps present a selection from various areas.

So, #99, Fabricia. She was quite remarkable, among the absolute best, so fitting for the milestone. And a great story. Walking down the street in Hellville, I notice a group of beauties walking across the street from me, and eyed one thin spinner in particular, smiling to catch her gaze. By the end of the block, she crossed the street to come to me and chat. Got her phone number since I was busy for the afternoon (I could have taken her to my hotel right there). That night, I called her and we met a local bar. Long story short, she recognized me from years before. Her older sister was the girl of a good friend in 2009, and she was too young then, but my buddy reminded me that I said "when she grows up, I'm coming back for her.". Well she was 18 now, and I had her! Took her back to my hotel, and holy shit, she had learned a lot in those few years! Incredible, wild and sexual and EVERYTHING was on the menu. The most intense deep throating I have had in Mada, gagging on my cock, then through all the positions. While in doggy I stick a thumb in the butt, she doesn't protest, seems to like it, and in a few minutes I am fucking her ass. Wow. Getting close, pull out, off with the condom and more deep throat gagging until I blow on her tongue and it dribbles down her lip. Unfortunately it was my last night and had to leave that morning, so didn't get to see her again. Will be looking for her on my next trip.

WhiteGuyXXX

05-01-13, 01:32

TigeDeJade

05-02-13, 22:56

TigeDeJade

05-02-13, 23:02

OpenRoad

05-13-13, 13:09

Vavy Lover

05-13-13, 17:28

Hi guys. Will be a first timer this July. Could someone please recommend a semi decent girl friendly hotel in Ambatoloaka for a few days? (anything up to around 40 Euros a night). Would like to be near the heart of the action, but maybe avoid being right beside a thumping nightclub that could keep me awake all night. Girl friendly and reasonably close the the bar area would be great. Was thinking about Hotel Espadon, but read a couple of ordinary reviews online. Any info would be appreciated.

Cheers,

OpenroadEspadon is one of the nicer places on one end of the "strip", a bit above your range, but not too much more though. Another option is Hotel Gerard and Francine, that is lower in price, still nice, and at the opposite end of the strip, maybe a bit quieter. You can also check out the hotels once you get there and change easily enough. That is was I recommend, and always do, make reservations at one place but don't pay up front; after your first day you can look at other options and if you find a place you like more, just check out of the first place.

Amadeuss

05-15-13, 06:42

Another option is Hotel Gerard and Francine, that is lower in price, still nice, and at the opposite end of the strip, maybe a bit quieter. .Gerard and Francine is a nice place. But not hobby friendly. The owners, A French couple, will remind you that their cottages are more of a family place. Its ok if you got a steady GF and already check in with her.

40-EU is a tight budget for NosyBe hotels. But the time you there is low season. As others said: walk around and ask.

Vavy Lover

05-15-13, 18:02

Gerard and Francine is a nice place. But not hobby friendly. The owners, A French couple, will remind you that their cottages are more of a family place. Its ok if you got a steady GF and already check in with her.

40-EU is a tight budget for NosyBe hotels. But the time you there is low season. As others said: walk around and ask.Thanks for that input Botaki, I did not realize that about G&F's place. There is a hotel just north of G&F's that I stayed at but can't recall the name. It is right at the bend in the road (kind of a "dog's leg") as you walk north, right before you get to the main section of bars. The restaurant, bar and lobby is on the ocean side of the street, completely open to the beach, and the rooms are in a building across the street. Price in 2009 was cheap, about AR50, 000-60, 000 I think, the owners were terrific, and it was very discreet as there was basically no monitoring of your coming and going since the rooms were across the street from the main hotel / lobby. Sorry that I don't remember the name, but if you walk around the area I describe you should find it.

OpenRoad

05-16-13, 10:40

Thanks for that input Botaki, I did not realize that about G&F's place. There is a hotel just north of G&F's that I stayed at but can't recall the name. It is right at the bend in the road (kind of a "dog's leg") as you walk north, right before you get to the main section of bars. The restaurant, bar and lobby is on the ocean side of the street, completely open to the beach, and the rooms are in a building across the street. Price in 2009 was cheap, about AR50, 000-60, 000 I think, the owners were terrific, and it was very discreet as there was basically no monitoring of your coming and going since the rooms were across the street from the main hotel / lobby. Sorry that I don't remember the name, but if you walk around the area I describe you should find it.Thanks Vavy and Botaki6. Appreciate the advice very much. Sent an email off to Hotel Espadon this morning and they replied tonight saying that there was no problem with a vacancy. Price quoted is €63 a night for an ocean view room with double bed. A bit more than what I was originally planning to spend, but sounds ok for a relatively short stay. Rooms and location look rather nice on their website so I'll give it a go.

http://www.espadon-nosybe.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69&Itemid=136&lang=fr

They also mentioned that for an extra €15, they would provide a pick-up service from the airport. Have been left waiting on previous occasions during my travels, so not sure if this is really necessary for a middle of the day arrival. Taxi to / from the Nosy Be airport probably the same cost or maybe a bus / taxi-brouse service just as good perhaps?

Cheers,

Opernroad

Trevor2522

05-16-13, 15:56

Did anyone think to ask where the majority of Nosy Bé girls come from originally, to go to the source and avoid the island's Euro-cost hotels and potential police scams?

Vavy Lover

05-20-13, 14:35

Thanks Vavy and Botaki6. Appreciate the advice very much. Sent an email off to Hotel Espadon this morning and they replied tonight saying that there was no problem with a vacancy. Price quoted is €63 a night for an ocean view room with double bed. A bit more than what I was originally planning to spend, but sounds ok for a relatively short stay. Rooms and location look rather nice on their website so I'll give it a go.

http://www.espadon-nosybe.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69&Itemid=136&lang=fr

They also mentioned that for an extra €15, they would provide a pick-up service from the airport. Have been left waiting on previous occasions during my travels, so not sure if this is really necessary for a middle of the day arrival. Taxi to / from the Nosy Be airport probably the same cost or maybe a bus / taxi-brouse service just as good perhaps?

Cheers,

OpernroadThe Espadon is a rather nice place, and if you can afford it that is great. You don't have to pay that much on Madagascar though. I made a map of Ambatoloaka from Google that shows the location of the hotel I was talking about in my early message (paid Ar60, 000 / night in 2009) at the bottom, and Espadon at the top. The main road is barely seen in yellow, but it is a short 5-10min walk between the two, so this is a relatively small place. The main bars that are active during day and evening are about half way down the road between them. At night there are two main discos that get going after midnight. Both are off the map and a short walk to the east at top. Jemba, which is a little more run down and dingy, and La Sirena, nicer.

As for transport from the airport, there are plenty of taxi's available, with standard rates. It costs Ar20, 000 to go to Hellville, and I think AR30, 000 to go to Ambatoloaka, but not certain.

Vavy Lover

05-20-13, 14:53

Did anyone think to ask where the majority of Nosy Bé girls come from originally, to go to the source and avoid the island's Euro-cost hotels and potential police scams?From my experience, most of the girls in Ambatoloaka come from Dar es Salaam, a town on the road just NE of Ambato. This is a non-tourist, dusty working town that you drive through on the way to Ambato. Also Hellville, which is another option to Ambatoloaka that is less touristy and laid back (but no beaches) , more a working city where the main port is, and has a variety of cheaper hotels. Great disco there call Discoteque 1, and a bar that gets going on certain nights call Manava. But most action is in Ambatoloaka, much wilder party atmosphere if that is what you are looking for, which is a AR10, 000 taxi ride from Hellville (or AR2, 000 in a communal taxi where you get to squeeze in the back seat with typically a bunch of girls heading to Ambato for the night).

I routinely avoid any place that advertises prices in Euros. They are all highly inflated and in most cases you DO NOT get what you pay for, when you pay more. The hotel that I mentioned in previous messages is run by a Malagasy guy, and in Hellville you can pay from AR40, 000 to 70, 000 for nice digs. La Plantation and Tjinjo are two good options, right next to each other close to the market.

Something else I notice, is that Nosy Be girls tend to stay on Nosy Be, you don't see them in Tana or other parts of Mada. And vice-versa, you don't often find girls from other spots in Nosy Be. In Tana you find lots of girls from the SW and the East coast, but I have never met a girl from Nosy Be, and very few from Mahajunga or other parts of NW.

Golfinho

05-30-13, 21:53

from my experience, most of the girls in ambatoloaka come from dar es salaam, a town on the road just ne of ambato. this is a non-tourist, dusty working town that you drive through on the way to ambato. also hellville, which is another option to ambatoloaka that is less touristy and laid back.note that after a night of partying in ambatolka, girls from these other places are oftentimes not keen to go back home late at night saying they are afraid of being attacked and or raped. in some cases yes a pretense of getting into your hotel room and wallet but most are serious sincere about this fear and you can offer one (or two) to stay with you no cost just so they can avoid having to go home.

BrasilSoccer0

06-01-13, 08:21

Golfinho

06-01-13, 14:10

Spent a week there earlier this month. There is not a lot to do. Other than getting to nearby beaches and islands, but if you are a no money guy this might be cost prohibitive. Plenty of girls though, on promenade between Hotel Le Paletuvier and Le Boeuf. After dark, but if you cannot speak a word of French (or Malagasy, ja) you aren't going to be able to do much of anything with them. 10k? That's pathetic, don't insult them. How it works in Madagascar is: if you hook up with a girl she will expect you to take care of her, I. E. You are obliged to be a man. IF you're up for the task, this means taking her out, restaurants, feeding her and whatever family she shows up with, and shopping, she will want things to wear. And once you get one, she is on you like glue and if you try to change expect trouble. It's a small place, they all know each other. I can't think of any reason to go back there and only stayed a week because could not get a flight back and seeing the taxi brousse situation there was no way to sit jammed into one of those for 12 or whatever hours. Are the girls from Tuleare beautiful? I would not say yes, but there is a range of body types, all dark, and including the small petite and some are cute. They've been fully exposed to the amis and well familiar with foreigners.

BrasilSoccer0

06-02-13, 06:37

The 10k was mentioned by another expert monger who unlike me actually been in Morandava, Sambava and Antalaha madagascar. I believe it may have been John Palmer who recommended this DAILY rate. Which, if put in the current economic context of the country, is a lot of money! So I don't see that being pathetic.

Now, I have no idea what Toliara looks like. So you may want to tell me if indeed it is one of the large cities or if it is a hot spot for prostitutes condensed with sex tourists. All these factors can inflate this 10k daily rate no doubt.

Now, if I get along well with a girl, it is natural I will cover expenses and some gifts while accompanied but NEVER family. Been there and never again!

Sorry you didn't have fun in Toliara. In which towns did you find better luck?

Spent a week there earlier this month. There is not a lot to do. Other than getting to nearby beaches and islands, but if you are a no money guy this might be cost prohibitive. Plenty of girls though, on promenade between Hotel Le Paletuvier and Le Boeuf. After dark, but if you cannot speak a word of French (or Malagasy, ja) you aren't going to be able to do much of anything with them. 10k? That's pathetic, don't insult them. How it works in Madagascar is: if you hook up with a girl she will expect you to take care of her, I. E. You are obliged to be a man. IF you're up for the task, this means taking her out, restaurants, feeding her and whatever family she shows up with, and shopping, she will want things to wear. And once you get one, she is on you like glue and if you try to change expect trouble. It's a small place, they all know each other. I can't think of any reason to go back there and only stayed a week because could not get a flight back and seeing the taxi brousse situation there was no way to sit jammed into one of those for 12 or whatever hours. Are the girls from Tuleare beautiful? I would not say yes, but there is a range of body types, all dark, and including the small petite and some are cute. They've been fully exposed to the amis and well familiar with foreigners.

Golfinho

06-02-13, 15:49

Had plenty of fun in Tulear, it's just that it's a boring place. Get a good hotel with a pool (Le Paletuvier excellent) because here is NOT a lot to do. Can't you find any videos on youtube to look at. Or, simply use your imagination and imagine it is pretty much like anywhere else in Madagascar. Ja. If you're just so lonely you need to find a girl to keep you 24/7 company on your little vacation, then you can find one here. And, if after a couple days she shows up with a cousin and a sister. FAMILY. Then you are gladly buying them a pizza dinner and pitcher of beer. Beyond that is another story.

BrasilSoccer0

06-03-13, 06:34

I just looked that hotel on its website. Too expensive for me it was around 100k Ar for climatized bungalow and that's around 50 USD. Dinner per person was quoted at Round 20k Ar around 10 USD.

NOT good prices for me. I'll be vacationing for a month.

I don't get it, I stayed in Medellin Colombia which is way more developed and touristic destination and payed around 12 USD per night and my dinner was around 5 USD, breakfast 2 USD, lunch 3 USD. 500ml bottled water 1 USD.

Can someone recommend a lower cost accommodation or options? Or even lower cost towns and villages. How about renting a small room from a local family!

I'll also visit Morondava, Sambava, and Antalaha.

Maybe Toliara is a tourist heavy town. So I should pass!

I will look for YouTube videos.

Thanks a lot Golfinho.

Had plenty of fun in Tulear, it's just that it's a boring place. Get a good hotel with a pool (Le Paletuvier excellent) because here is NOT a lot to do. Can't you find any videos on youtube to look at. Or, simply use your imagination and imagine it is pretty much like anywhere else in Madagascar. Ja. If you're just so lonely you need to find a girl to keep you 24/7 company on your little vacation, then you can find one here. And, if after a couple days she shows up with a cousin and a sister. FAMILY. Then you are gladly buying them a pizza dinner and pitcher of beer. Beyond that is another story.

Frdrich55

06-03-13, 22:39

Hello.

I was in Mada for occupation and for recreation. Several times. I not write about it before but read the stories here. The gentlemen who visit already many times do give very good infos.

But the people who ask and compare to other countries do not listen to the older voices and not understand Mada.

Mada red island is unique. Its grande and got many different people. The leadership is still based on tribe system and family ties. And Malagasy like enjoy and be happy. Just open Youtube and listen to the Malagasy music then you will understand.

Marriage is good but mistress is normal. Malagasy men not go to prostitute but to the mistress. If you want to enjoy Malagasy Liberty then do not look for prostitute but for gasy girl friend. She will come with you if you treat her well and have a good conversation: no french = no chemistry!

Next day you give her money for the day. Not for the night before. The night was fun for her also. Why pay? But today no food at home and she want to buy a new dress. Take care of her needs. You are her vahaza m'sieur and not a customer and she not a poutain.

It is not Pattaya, Angeles or DR. If you like watch gogo dance, drink whiskey all night and only know how to barfine but can not attract girls by your person, you will not enjoy Mada. Sorry.

And question about police raid and that old story in NosyBe: Mada is not Angeles and IJM not arrive. But then. It is in transition. Law not enforced. Every policemen look for his own advantage not to protect you but also not to put you in jail because then he get nothing. If you frightened of your own shadow: don't go please.

And question about money: it is not a country for student trip. Infrastructure bad. Transport expensive or you use taxi brousse and get brousse ass. LOL. Hotels not cheap but then also no fleas and cockroaches. Private B&B? Not good for vahaza's. Eating with nice french influence and no McDonald. If you life simple, you spend 50-EU / day as tourist. Comfortable and with a companion it will be 100-EU / day and more.

Most expensive the flight: from Paris direct now above 1000 EU with AirAstral. AF more then 1300 EU and Air Mada stupid 2000 EU. For that money one can go to BKK and do a week all inclusive. But not same same! For me Madalicious. For other not so much.

Veloma'

BrasilSoccer0

06-04-13, 10:01

I agree!

But we call these girls normal or regular girls. They have financial needs and we have sexual needs. You can put nice bouquet of flowers and put in beautiful box and spray it with nice perfume but at the end you know what it is!

Of course when you are with the girl you never think this way and you never erve talk this way because you are happy, she is happy and the sex is great, the conversation is fantastic and the pleasure hormones are secreted in your body. You feel no pain. Etc.

I am not looking for prostitutes. Ok.

I understand and know what to do when it is time to say goodbye to her. I am a gentleman.

But one thing I do not accept is cost of living. More specifically hotel cost.

You seem very familiar with the island and been there several times before. Can you tell me which parts of Mada has lower cost hotels? Or what is a better more economic option than hotel? Living with family for example like we do in Cuba. Or do hotels give a better weekly or monthly rate.

Guys, I am trying to go there within 2 Wks. I am in the Persian gulf now and the ticket is only 1009 USD. If I go back to the states I am looking at 2700 USD and a 48 hrs of travelling one one!

I need more affordable lodging options!

Hello.

I was in Mada for occupation and for recreation. Several times. I not write about it before but read the stories here. The gentlemen who visit already many times do give very good infos.

But the people who ask and compare to other countries do not listen to the older voices and not understand Mada.

Mada red island is unique. Its grande and got many different people. The leadership is still based on tribe system and family ties. And Malagasy like enjoy and be happy. Just open Youtube and listen to the Malagasy music then you will understand.

Marriage is good but mistress is normal. Malagasy men not go to prostitute but to the mistress. If you want to enjoy Malagasy Liberty then do not look for prostitute but for gasy girl friend. She will come with you if you treat her well and have a good conversation: no french = no chemistry!

Next day you give her money for the day. Not for the night before. The night was fun for her also. Why pay? But today no food at home and she want to buy a new dress. Take care of her needs. You are her vahaza m'sieur and not a customer and she not a poutain.

It is not Pattaya, Angeles or DR. If you like watch gogo dance, drink whiskey all night and only know how to barfine but can not attract girls by your person, you will not enjoy Mada. Sorry.

And question about police raid and that old story in NosyBe: Mada is not Angeles and IJM not arrive. But then. It is in transition. Law not enforced. Every policemen look for his own advantage not to protect you but also not to put you in jail because then he get nothing. If you frightened of your own shadow: don't go please.

And question about money: it is not a country for student trip. Infrastructure bad. Transport expensive or you use taxi brousse and get brousse ass. LOL. Hotels not cheap but then also no fleas and cockroaches. Private B&B? Not good for vahaza's. Eating with nice french influence and no McDonald. If you life simple, you spend 50-EU / day as tourist. Comfortable and with a companion it will be 100-EU / day and more.

Most expensive the flight: from Paris direct now above 1000 EU with AirAstral. AF more then 1300 EU and Air Mada stupid 2000 EU. For that money one can go to BKK and do a week all inclusive. But not same same! For me Madalicious. For other not so much.

Veloma'

Golfinho

06-04-13, 14:18

But the people who ask and compare to other countries do not listen to the older voices and not understand Mada red island is unique. Its grande and got many different people.You are absolutely correct, but evidently some people are incapable of comprehending this. To travel to the other side of the world only to try to live as meanly and cheaply as possible. Unbelievable.

TigeDeJade

06-04-13, 22:47

I fully agree with this analysis from first to last line.

I have been busy and lazy last few months but I spent again wonderful time one month in Tamatave in February and will report soon.

Hello.

I was in Mada for occupation and for recreation. Several times. I not write about it before but read the stories here. The gentlemen who visit already many times do give very good infos.

But the people who ask and compare to other countries do not listen to the older voices and not understand Mada.

Mada red island is unique. Its grande and got many different people. The leadership is still based on tribe system and family ties. And Malagasy like enjoy and be happy. Just open Youtube and listen to the Malagasy music then you will understand.

Marriage is good but mistress is normal. Malagasy men not go to prostitute but to the mistress. If you want to enjoy Malagasy Liberty then do not look for prostitute but for gasy girl friend. She will come with you if you treat her well and have a good conversation: no french = no chemistry!

Next day you give her money for the day. Not for the night before. The night was fun for her also. Why pay? But today no food at home and she want to buy a new dress. Take care of her needs. You are her vahaza m'sieur and not a customer and she not a poutain.

It is not Pattaya, Angeles or DR. If you like watch gogo dance, drink whiskey all night and only know how to barfine but can not attract girls by your person, you will not enjoy Mada. Sorry.

And question about police raid and that old story in NosyBe: Mada is not Angeles and IJM not arrive. But then. It is in transition. Law not enforced. Every policemen look for his own advantage not to protect you but also not to put you in jail because then he get nothing. If you frightened of your own shadow: don't go please.

And question about money: it is not a country for student trip. Infrastructure bad. Transport expensive or you use taxi brousse and get brousse ass. LOL. Hotels not cheap but then also no fleas and cockroaches. Private B&B? Not good for vahaza's. Eating with nice french influence and no McDonald. If you life simple, you spend 50-EU / day as tourist. Comfortable and with a companion it will be 100-EU / day and more.

Most expensive the flight: from Paris direct now above 1000 EU with AirAstral. AF more then 1300 EU and Air Mada stupid 2000 EU. For that money one can go to BKK and do a week all inclusive. But not same same! For me Madalicious. For other not so much.

Veloma'

Frdrich55

06-04-13, 22:53

To travel to the other side of the world only to try to live as meanly and cheaply as possible. Unbelievable.In general yes. Agree. However there are places you can do that. Mada got cheap hostels for 5000 MGA near taxi brousse stations. You can find them if you speak little Malagasy. But not a private room, no own toilet and no new couvert of the bed. You want that after paying 1000 $ to go there? Also fly to NosyBe or Tulear cost 200 $ one way. Then safe money on play-station?

If one go as english speaking tourist, you can not converse to local people and must stay in hotels middle class. Friends did stay in the Jacaranda for 25.000 MGA, a clean backpacker hostel in centre Tana near Lac Anosy. But not a place to bring a poutain. You also can find a student chamber in area 65HA if you charm a etudiante. In province Malagasy is the language of people, French is understood but no english. Mombasa, Gambia or AddisAbeba are better in Africa for speak english to play our hobby.

Trevor2522

06-04-13, 23:59

If you want western-style accommodation in Africa, including Madagascar, it is expensive (even though the people are poor). It is non-standard for the Africans and tourists are relatively few. Thus it is charged-for accordingly. If you want great-value rooms, cheap flights and jaded women go to Thailand.

Madagascar's air links are few and therefore expensive; prices are getting worse as demand increases but supply remains flat. Avoid the European summer holiday season July-August when fares rise by 50%. Now that Kenya Airways and Air Madagascar have gotten greedy, the cheapest way in from Europe is Air France. With Air Austral it's possible to fly straight to Toamasina, Mahajanga or Nosy Be (as well as captal Antananarivo) via Réunion but the cost is more than Air France + Air Madagascar domestic.

Then 5 options :

1) Remain in the capital.

2) Travel light by taxi-brousse or postal bus.

3) Rent a self-drive motorbike.

4) Fly Air Madagascar from Antananarivo to the coastal honeypots of choice (by decreasing number of prospects) : Nosy Be, Toliara, Diego Suarez (Antsiranana), Toamasina, Mahajanga, Morondava.

5) Hire a car-and-driver by the day. Driver's return costs must be paid if dropping-off.

BrasilSoccer0

06-05-13, 16:44

We all have different experiences!

We need to realize that there is no "One size fits all" experience when it comes to Madagascar or any other sex destination.

This forum exists for people to share their experiences. We are not in a competition to see who outspends who. And not all of us have a 6-7 figure salary. And no one person can sit here and tell me or any other person: No you can't or no that is impossible.

My concern was lodging costs and options.

It seems that there is limited experiences and not limited options.

And I don't take "no" for an answer. I will take "I don't know" however.

The question for those who know: What and where are the more economic lodging options in the island?

BrasilSoccer0

06-05-13, 16:45

What about if I don't want western-style accommodation?

If you want western-style accommodation in Africa, including Madagascar, it is expensive (even though the people are poor). It is non-standard for the Africans and tourists are relatively few. Thus it is charged-for accordingly. If you want great-value rooms, cheap flights and jaded women go to Thailand.

Madagascar's air links are few and therefore expensive; prices are getting worse as demand increases but supply remains flat. Avoid the European summer holiday season July-August when fares rise by 50. Now that Kenya Airways and Air Madagascar have gotten greedy, the cheapest way in from Europe is Air France. With Air Austral it's possible to fly straight to Toamasina, Mahajanga or Nosy Be (as well as captal Antananarivo) via Réunion but the cost is more than Air France + Air Madagascar domestic.

Then 5 options :

1) Remain in the capital.

2) Travel light by taxi-brousse or postal bus.

3) Rent a self-drive motorbike.

4) Fly Air Madagascar from Antananarivo to the coastal honeypots of choice (by decreasing number of prospects) : Nosy Be, Toliara, Diego Suarez (Antsiranana) , Toamasina, Mahajanga, Morondava.

5) Hire a car-and-driver by the day. Driver's return costs must be paid if dropping-off.

Golfinho

06-05-13, 16:55

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Frdrich55

06-05-13, 20:19

Go to some hostel advisor forum for to find the deadbeat and dirtbag sleepholes you crave.I agree.

M'sieur Brasil: do not call the people here that they don't know. You want to do local style? Then learn Malagasy or good French. Find an etudiante and lodge at Area 65HA in Tana Malagasy neighbourhood.

In the provinces I did stay with local families. It was of my work with an NGO. And the families are good people and bring another girl from a disco for sex only is very faty. But if the people like you, they perhaps bring you a single lady to be with as "affaire-temporaire"

The M'sier Trefor informations are as you can read in guide books. I think he never try to find "postal-bus". And never ride a moto as long distance transport: moto is nice but very expensive and only for strong cavaliers.

If you not like the explanations, expedite Mada and tell us please so that we can learn.

BrasilSoccer0

06-05-13, 20:44

That question wasn't even for you [Deleted by Admin]!

It was for someone who provided relative information as opposed to inappropriate personal attacks and criticism.

So if you have no answer to my question or can't positively contribute, then do what the majority of men who have lives do: Move on!

Who cares what you want. You demand answers, bludgeon people with-self-evident questions. On this forum, no less. Go to some hostel advisor forum for to find the deadbeat and dirtbag sleepholes you crave.

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Golfinho

06-05-13, 21:06

Golfinho

06-05-13, 23:31

I agree.

M'sieur Brasil: do not call the people here that they don't know. You want to do local style? Then learn Malagasy or good French. Find an etudiante and lodge at Area 65HA in Tana Malagasy neighbourhood.

If you not like the explanations, expedite Mada and tell us please so that we can learn.In actuality, I don't doubt that 20,000 ariary places exist in Tulear. Past near to where the ferryboats disembark, but for vazaha to want to stay there doesn't make sense, and much less make a girl stay there with him is not the right move. Not the 'I treat them like a gentleman' move anyway.

Trevor2522

06-06-13, 03:24

What if I don't want western-style accommodation?How about a room-share at Madame Florine's in Nosy Be for $7.50 a month?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W5A3OHNEdc

Latin

06-08-13, 18:17

Frdrich55

06-09-13, 15:06

Hi friends, after long absence from ille rouge I'm taking some holiday in June in nosy be.

But part of the time ill be with my girl from Tana, and unfortunately she is not into 3some.

When she will live for Tana I'll take some time to enjoy locals. If somebody have good contact of a non pro in hell ville.Me think to go to NB with girlfriend is carry sand to beach. But if the box is good, why not.

What is "non-pro"? Do you mean you not want pay? Filles want vahazas to pay. Even "your girl". Many girls at the beach or in the discos of NosyBe only work little time and then go back home. Not same as the putains in Paris. This girls are enchante to become your girl for long time. Is it what you like? Just go and look.

Hell-Villa Ambatoloaka is a small place. Parade with your first girl, then other girls at plage will memory you. Better stay with your 1st girl not at Ambatoloaka but at resort north of Isle NB, alone, romantique.

Alex0707

06-15-13, 03:22

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Alex0707

06-16-13, 05:57

What is the better location for theses such of girls on beach in Madagascar? Monrondova? Majunga? Morombe? Mahajunga? Maintirano? Tulear? Manakara? Mananjry? Toamasina? Sambava? Antalaha? Antsiranana? Girls with (nice) big butts and big tits. Like this.

Latin

06-16-13, 09:09

Yes you'are right. 90% girls are looking for money to help living, this is normal everywere, but I mean not a hard pro who is just jumping one to the other whithin a few ours, you can find them as non regular pro. Thenks for the advice on hotel, I will look on internet about it.

Me think to go to NB with girlfriend is carry sand to beach. But if the box is good, why not.

What is "non-pro"? Do you mean you not want pay? Filles want vahazas to pay. Even "your girl". Many girls at the beach or in the discos of NosyBe only work little time and then go back home. Not same as the putains in Paris. This girls are enchante to become your girl for long time. Is it what you like? Just go and look.

Hell-Villa Ambatoloaka is a small place. Parade with your first girl, then other girls at plage will memory you. Better stay with your 1st girl not at Ambatoloaka but at resort north of Isle NB, alone, romantique.

Trevor2522

06-16-13, 15:35

Has anyone been to Diego Suarez (Antsiranana) in the far north recently?

Advantages: Cheaper than Nosy Be as not aimed at Euro package tourists. Has an eclectic mix of taller black, arab and western ethnicities, plus money-seekers from the Vanilla Coast. Central area walkable. Amber mountain national park a day's outing. Interesting coastline and islands. A day's journey from Nosy Be by taxi brousse.

Disadvantages: Not much to do in town. Beaches are hours away on poor roads. Flight €419 return from Tana (daily); €138 one-way from Nosy Be (2-3 days a week). Hot and dusty in the European winter; currently a milder 20-29ºC.

Golfinho

06-16-13, 19:08

Has anyone been to Diego Suarez (Antsiranana) in the far north recently?Last October and would repeat. Transit from Nosy Be not so bad, if you start early and once you get over the island on the boat. Look for guys with SUV's can charter for the drive. Only about 100 EU, private ride, excellent, pick up girls along the route if you see any you like. Antsiranana goes to sleep during the day, comes alive after dark. Arrange your arrival for Thursday, in advance of weekend. Some good hotels, new right downtown. Go for it, fun to be had, just don't go looking for and expecting 'cheaper'.

Trevor2522

06-18-13, 16:31

Last October and would repeat. Transit from Nosy Be not so bad, if you start early and once you get over the island on the boat. Look for guys with SUV's can charter for the drive. Only about 100 EU, private ride, excellent, pick up girls along the route if you see any you like. Antsiranana goes to sleep during the day, comes alive after dark. Arrange your arrival for Thursday, in advance of weekend. Some good hotels, new right downtown. Go for it, fun to be had, just don't go looking for and expecting 'cheaper'.Good info, thanks. Where in Diego did you stay and how did you get back to Tana? Mada sounds like the kind of place where you have to move on to another town once the ladies get to know you and become too attached.

Member #4178

06-18-13, 17:09

Has anyone been to Diego Suarez (Antsiranana) in the far north recently?

Advantages: Cheaper than Nosy Be as not aimed at Euro package tourists. Has an eclectic mix of taller black, arab and western ethnicities, plus money-seekers from the Vanilla Coast. Central area walkable. Amber mountain national park a day's outing. Interesting coastline and islands. A day's journey from Nosy Be by taxi brousse.

Disadvantages: Not much to do in town. Beaches are hours away on poor roads. Flight €419 return from Tana (daily) ; €138 one-way from Nosy Be (2-3 days a week). Hot and dusty in the European winter; currently a milder 20-29ºC.Where did you got that foolish crap?

There is nothing in Diego but crime and problematic poor and ugly girls.

Your post should be deleted as your other crap.

Vahaza Be

06-19-13, 14:53

Where did you got that foolish crap?

There is nothing in Diego but crime and problematic poor and ugly girls.

Your post should be deleted as your other crap.Nonsense. Diego comes alive at night. And Ramena Beach rocks.

La Vahine on the main drag has pros and semi-pros lounging around during the day. Lots of old fart expats hanging there out too. ATM across the street, Nice stretch of restaurants nearby. Excellent "disco" scene that starts LATE at night.

Khat is everywhere for a little "pick me up", and weed is available for the asking.

Lots of "karana" business folks, some benign Muslim influence, and an interesting ethnic mix. More cosmopolitan than most Malagasy cities by far.

Yes, there are "faroches" or local gangs, but they harrass locals more than vazahas, and the police know who they are.

Mr. Xxxa is a troll. Ignore him.

Vavy Lover

06-19-13, 16:37

Vavy,

Nice info man. You reaffirmed my thoughts on the capital city and NoseBe. That being said I want to know a couple of things before my upcoming trip:

1- Do you agree Toliara is where the most beautiful girls are by majority consensus?

2- Can you describe the SocioEco situation of girls from Toliara or where you think the most beautiful girls are?

3- Is 10k Ar good for a 24hr companionship by a Non-pro? ...Hi Brazil,

I will return to your original message and add my input to the discussion that has erupted after that post.

On the beauty of the girls, of course this is very subjective and everyone has their own likes and dislikes. Personally I think the SW girls and especially in Toliara are by far the most beautiful and hottest on the island. Particularly compared to the NW and Nosy Be / Diego. As I posted before, there are some beauties in Nosy Be, but the top 10% only are as pretty and hot as the top 50% or 25% of TOliara girls. That means there is more choices, and also there are far fewer Vazaha in Toliara than Nosy Be. That means in Toliara, the hottest girls are competing for you (particularly if you are half good-looking and not a fat 60yo frenchman. LOL). In Nosy Be, you can always find a girl, but you have to compete for the hottest ones.

For examples of Toliara girls check out posts 576, 577, 579, 582, and I will post a few more if I get the chance.

Hotels: posted this before. I agree the Paletuvier is too expensive. The Plaza Sud, on the south side of the Jardin (Paletuvier is on the north side of the Jardin) , is AR 25, 000 for a decent room, no air con, but you don't really need it in July / Aug, nice breeze from the water, great staff. There are other options further south down the dusty road: Le Recife (maybe a bit higher at AR 40, 000) and another decent one whose name I forget, starts with an M.

Cadeau (="gift" in French, and the term the girls use for payment.). AR 10, 000 is way too low for an overnight. AR 40, 000 is what I typically give and Toliara girls are happy with, though you might be able to manage less. Higher in Tana, about AR 60, 000 these days.

Prostitutes. In Malagasy,"makorely" and a term that no girl will admit to being. Basically, it is said that if you negotiate a price for the night beforehand, the girl is a makorely, but if you give her a cadeau in the morning, and it is not discussed or negotiated, then she is not. Most of the younger girls are at the discos to find a Vazaha boyfriend or ideally husband to take them out of poverty, or maybe to make a little money. But unfortunately, many of them turn into real makorely as they age and their dream does not come true.

Longterm girlfriends vs flings. You can do both (simultaneously, if you are sly about it.). And it is true that the girls in Toliara, particularly the sweetest, are less accepting of you mixing it up. In Nosy Be, this is typically not a problem, but the makorely factor is way higher there too. If you find a girl to pamper and stay with you several nights, then you don't have to give a nightly cadeau, but rather give here something like AR 100, 000 after a week or so together, pretty flexible, but you are also paying for her meals, etc. And if your girl is not with you all the time, you can find others to take to your room for a ST, or get a BJ in a restaurant bathroom for AR 5, 000 to 10, 000 (not uncommon at BoBeach, next to Plaza Sud).

Toliara in general, is a fun place to party at night, but it is true there is not a lot to do during the day. It use to be safer than it is now, and friends that live there have advised me to be more cautious now, ie, don't walk the main strip from Le Beouf to Plaza Sud late at night. But I still do walk early when there are typically a lot of people around (before midnight) , but taxi it in the late late hours. For beaches, go north to Ifaty / Mangily and spend a few nights at a beach front hotel. The most basic are about AR 40, 000 and the nice ones are about AR 100, 000 or more. There is a crazy monger scene there, in someways more intense than Toliara, so you go solo, and can have a different girl every night and afternoon. Or you can go south from Toliara to Anakao where there are again beach front hotels that range in price, but no monger scene, so you have to take your LT girl from Toliara.

Cheers,

Vavy Lover

Vavy Lover

06-21-13, 13:32

Yes, I also agree with this, a very good representation. A couple added comments though. The Malagasy men do go to prostitutes as far as I can tell, so they both have mistresses that they keep LT and indulge, sometimes frequently, with Makorely for ST. Some Malagasy men have had many many women in there time. 100s. And it is mostly considered normal.

A key difference between Mada and the SE Asian sex trade I think is that on Mada it is not organized or controlled by men outside the family. It is not a business and prostitutes don't have pimps. They are independent, although in many cases the families, the mothers, encourage they daughters to go out to the clubs and pick up Vazaha to bring money home. So however you feel about that. But the girls mostly, are really looking for husbands, at least when they start.

Veloma

Hello.

I was in Mada for occupation and for recreation. Several times. I not write about it before but read the stories here. The gentlemen who visit already many times do give very good infos.

But the people who ask and compare to other countries do not listen to the older voices and not understand Mada.

Mada red island is unique. Its grande and got many different people. The leadership is still based on tribe system and family ties. And Malagasy like enjoy and be happy. Just open Youtube and listen to the Malagasy music then you will understand...

Vavy Lover

06-21-13, 13:36

Nonsense. Diego comes alive at night. And Ramena Beach rocks.

La Vahine on the main drag has pros and semi-pros lounging around during the day. Lots of old fart expats hanging there out too. ATM across the street, Nice stretch of restaurants nearby. Excellent "disco" scene that starts LATE at night.

Khat is everywhere for a little "pick me up", and weed is available for the asking.

Lots of "karana" business folks, some benign Muslim influence, and an interesting ethnic mix. More cosmopolitan than most Malagasy cities by far.

Yes, there are "faroches" or local gangs, but they harrass locals more than vazahas, and the police know who they are.

Mr. Xxxa is a troll. Ignore him.Well I do agree with you VB that Mr. Xxxa is being extreme. However I have to admit that I was not very impressed with Diego on my one trip there. The scene was very hard and it seemed the pros dominated among the girls. And I did not find them particularly attractive relative to other spots in Madagascar. Maybe a matter of opinion, personal likes and dislikes.

Random Guy 23

06-21-13, 19:30

Gentlemen, I apologize if this topic has been covered previously. I did a search without much luck.

I am visiting Mada for all of July. Would like to monger, but I speak no French. Is there any way to do this such that it won't be awkward as hell? I know where to find ladies in Tana and Nosy, but that's only the beginning.

How would you approach the situation if you didn't speak the language?

Thanks to all

Member #4178

06-22-13, 12:42

The scene was very hard and it seemed the pros dominated among the girls. And I did not find them particularly attractive relative to other spots in Madagascar.Absolutely, The story is long gone. Its the same as Mombasa used to be in the past, a paradise. Now both are shadows of them self. The real Troll are quoting from the internet generic posts that was valid 15 tears ago.

VB has a strong memory and loyalty to his past good old days but things change as mass tourism spoils everything. Girls can easily brings the corrupted police for any small argument exactly as the sister does in Mtwapa mombasa.

New villages are still waited to be discovered especially at the vanilla cost where tourist are few.

Vahaza Be

06-25-13, 19:43

VB has a strong memory and loyalty to his past good old days but things change as mass tourism spoils everything. Girls can easily brings the corrupted police for any small argument exactly as the sister does in Mtwapa mombasa.Mr Xxxa.

Is that you, Max? LOL!

Anyway, I'm guilty as charged. I still love the north, but must confess that marrying a local gal has reduced my hobbying considerably.

Toliara is hot as hell in every way. The most fun I've ever had in Tana is with girls from Toliara working the discos. Black and beautiful, and some are "rasta friendly".

Be careful now everywhere in Madland. People are more desperate than ever with the collapsed economy and corrupt, illegal government. Tana is dangerous.

Vavy Lover

06-26-13, 16:00

Yes: Tulear, Ifaty, Mangily and a bit further north: Morondava: SSS (sun sea sex)I think I know these girls in your photo Botaki. LOL.

Trevor2522

06-26-13, 23:10

gentlemen, i apologize if this topic has been covered previously. i did a search without much luck.

i am visiting mada for all of july. would like to monger, but i speak no french. is there any way to do this such that it won't be awkward as hell? i know where to find ladies in tana and nosy, but that's only the beginning.

how would you approach the situation if you didn't speak the language?

thanks to alli refer you to my post #881:

http://mylanguages.org/malagasy_phrases.php

romance and love phrases = resa-pitiavana (ray-sah [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-tee-ah-vaan)

are you free tomorrow evening / tonight? = malalaka ve ianao rahampitso hariva / anio alina? (mah-lah-laak vay ya-now rahm-pits ah-reev / a-ni-oo ah-leen?)

i would like to invite you to dinner! = te-hanasa anao hiara-misakafo amiko aho! (tay a-nas ah-now ee-yah mee-sa-kaf a-meek ah-oo!)

you look beautiful! = tsara / kanto / meva ery izato ianao! (tsa-rah / kan-too / may-vah eh-ree ee-zaat yah-now!)

you have a beautiful name! = tsara anarana ianao ka! (tsa-ra a-na-ra-na ya-now ka!)

can you tell me more about you? = afaka milaza misimisy kokoa momba anao amiko ve ianao? (af-ka mee-laaz mee-see-mis koo-koo-a moom-ba a-now a-meek vay ya-now?)

are you married? = manam-bady ve ianao? (ma-naam-bah-dee vay ya-now?)

i'm single = tsy manam-bady aho (tsee ma-naam-bah-dee ah-oo)

i'm married = manam-bady aho (ma-naam-bah-dee ah-oo)

can i have your phone number? = azoko raisina ve ny laharana findainao? (ah-zook rye-seen vayn lah-ran fin-dye-now?)

can i have your email? = afaka omenao ahy ve ny emailanao? (af-ka oo-meh-now ah-ee vayn e-mail a-now?)

do you have any pictures of you? = misy sarinao ve any? (mee-see sa-ree-now vay ah-nee?)

do you have children? = manan-janaka? (ma-nan dzan-nak?)

would you like to go for a walk? = sao dia te-handehandeha ianao? (sao dee-ah tay han-day han-day-ah ya-now?)

i like you = mahafinaritra ahy ianao (ma-ah-feen-na-ree-tra ah-ee ya-now)

i love you = tiako ianao (tee-ah-koo yah-now)

you're very special! = tena miavaka ianao! (tay-nah mee-ah-vaak ya-now!)

you're very kind! = tsara fanahy ianao! (tsa-rah fa-nah-ee ya-now!)

i'm very happy = faly be aho! (fah-lee bay ah-oo!)

i'm just kidding = mananihany aho (mah-na-nee-aan ah-oo)

i'm serious = tena matotra aho (tay-nah ma-tootr' ah-oo)

my heart speaks the language of love = ny foko no miteny (nee fook noo me-tayn)

how much? = hoatrinona? (hwa-treen?)

i'll give = hanome aho (ha-noo-may. ah-oo)

don't want, thanks = tsy mila misaotra (tsee mee-la miss-sotch)

remember: the malagasy speak quickly, drop middle-h's and some vowels (but not e's) , and use french numbers.

Golfinho

06-26-13, 23:22

I am visiting Mada for all of July. Would like to monger, but I speak no FrenchElection has been postponed til 23 August. All this summer should be a great time to be there.

Vahaza Be

06-29-13, 20:47

Election has been postponed til 23 August. All this summer should be a great time to be there.Maybe, maybe not.

Rumors are in the air about a possible coup to oust DJ Andry!

I wouldn't linger in Tana any longer than absolutely necessary these days.

Golfinho

06-29-13, 21:47

I wouldn't linger in Tana any longer than absolutely necessary these days.As if there's mortal danger strolling from the Colbert to the fun spot across the street, or down the hill to another fun place and back.

Frdrich55

07-01-13, 18:33

Gentlemen, I apologize if this topic has been covered previously. I did a search without much luck.

I speak no French. Is there any way to do this such that it won't be awkward as hell? How would you approach the situation if you didn't speak the language?Monsieur. You will find boxes professional. Some speak little English. If you speak Spanish or Italian, you can try use vocabulary with French accent. But you will pay more for all as Vahaza America aho.

If you use book of Monsier Trevor you say: "Te-hanasa anao hiara-misakafo amiko aho!" and she say: "Aiza ny kabone?" (Where the toilet). You will stand there as idiot because you not understand and she walk away. Encore.

Malagasy got many dialects. Not so easy to learn in short period. What you say, she perhaps not understand. If you want to make friend, use simple words as "Salama" "Veloma".

Enjoy your travel

Vahaza Be

07-06-13, 22:23

As if there's mortal danger strolling from the Colbert to the fun spot across the street, or down the hill to another fun place and back.Nice sarcasm.

Try the nocturnal stroll from Sakamanga to Club Indra or a walk through Tsaralalana at night if you're feeling so chill in Tana.

Agree that plenty of opportunities are within walking distance of Hotel Colbert, but that's just a tiny slice of Tana. Screw those steps at night. I'd taxi to and from Glacier if I were you. But, hey, it's your ariary and your neck.

Be safe.

Amadeuss

07-08-13, 07:43

I'd taxi to and from Glacier if I were you.

Be safe.Friends of me just did return from a touristic trip to Tana and Tulear: in both cities they got warned by the hotel management as well tourist-guides to be overly careful on the roads even at daytime of robberies around ATM-machines and more-then-usual pickpockets. Nothing actually happened to them and they didn't feel unsafe.

Did the residents exaggerate the situation so shortly before election? Any input from ground zero, please?

Vahaza Be

07-09-13, 21:03

Friends of me just did return from a touristic trip to Tana and Tulear: in both cities they got warned by the hotel management as well tourist-guides to be overly careful on the roads even at daytime of robberies around ATM-machines and more-then-usual pickpockets. Nothing actually happened to them and they didn't feel unsafe.

Did the residents exaggerate the situation so shortly before election? Any input from ground zero, please?10 to 1 there is no election this year. The African Union and the Europeans have pulled the financial plug until 3 of the clowns withdraw their candidacies. The coup puppet Andry, the wife of the deposed Marc Ravolomanana, and the old dictator Ratsiraka.

KaliDude22

07-10-13, 05:25

10 to 1 there is no election this year. The African Union and the Europeans have pulled the financial plug until 3 of the clowns withdraw their candidacies. The coup puppet Andry, the wife of the deposed Marc Ravolomanana, and the old dictator Ratsiraka.Just talked with a local buddy about this election and he feels that the election is simply a full of puppet show. Amazing how the attitude of the locals as well as the scenery have changed since Ravolomanana departed for Swaziland. There was no Tiko products to be found since I was here 6 years ago.

Anyway, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a full block on Lalana Adrianary Batianrivo packed with streetwalkers last week while riding out to Morondava for a Tsingy trip. It definitely shows the true side of the Mada's unfortunate economic woes.

I noticed that Asmara Massage sits next to Sakamanga. Has anyone checked it out and are they better than the ones on the streets and Asmara's other outlets?

Amadeuss

07-10-13, 18:00

1- the election is simply a full of puppet show.

2. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a full block on Lalana Adrianary Batianrivo packed with streetwalkers last week

3. Riding out to Morondava for a Tsingy trip.1: I don't mind who's and the helm. But as long as no one feels responsible, people will take the law into their own hand and criminality will rise.

2: On that corner of Lalana Adrianary and Rue des 77 Parl there were SW's all the while. But less in cold July then at the warmer days in January. Many old hogs but occasionally some real Cherie's. See below.

3: A report on Morondava would be great.

KaliDude22

07-10-13, 21:31

a report on morondava would be great.not much to report as i only stayed there overnight, but i did stop by at couleur cafe where i saw a couple of pros being with a few older vahazas. there was a few adorable young waitresses there, but i was already too pooped out from the long 4x4 ride from the tsingy and left the cafe earlier than i expected.

Vavy Lover

07-12-13, 16:25

Wow Bo, she was on the street? I typically take the walk from Saka to Glacier in the evening between 8-10pm, checking out the SWs on way, and I have never found one that would make me stop the journey to Glacier, where I know there are better waiting. But this one looks like a true sweetheart.

And yes, I have noticed a substantial increase in the number of prostitutes on the streets in the last couple years. I think it is a very real indicator.

I always taxi it home or anywhere after 10pm, but I have still found it ok to walk to Glacier when there is still a lot of people and traffic. Screw the steps, as VB says, I avoid at all costs. It does feel more dangerous the last year or so, and I respect that, try to be safe and remember it has changed since 10 years ago.

1: I don't mind who's and the helm. But as long as no one feels responsible, people will take the law into their own hand and criminality will rise.

2: On that corner of Lalana Adrianary and Rue des 77 Parl there were SW's all the while. But less in cold July then at the warmer days in January. Many old hogs but occasionally some real Cherie's. See below.

3: A report on Morondava would be great.

Labadi

07-12-13, 16:32

Hi Botaki,

I had the same girl like one year ago, she was near the gas station. She's wonderful, funny and we had a lot of fun together. I think she has a daughter and is working only here and then. Good choice!

Amadeuss

07-13-13, 11:58

Screw the steps, as VB says, I avoid at all costs. It does feel more dangerous the last year or so, and I respect that, try to be safe and remember it has changed since 10 years ago.The steps are a pain-in-de-ass, yes. But even on my walk back on the regular roads from Place the' Independence around 10:00 at night a year ago some police did stop me and ask for an I'd. Did show the copy of my passport but didn't have the copy of my immigration stamp. Sure a discussion was starting. Friendly I did ask them to follow me to my hotel. I will pay them a drink there. But they preferred to have a drink someplace else. : Small bills. 8000 Ar, was all I gave them to enjoy their beer. No harrassement but more of a fun discussion.

I did pull also some more "used" ones from that area. But never had any problem with any of them: all happy and full of fun. Prices between 10. 20. 000 for an hour debauchery.

KaliDude22

07-14-13, 17:10

Here's my recent report for Asmara Massage:

As I entered the salon which is next to Hotel Sakamanga, I was greeted with 5 nice young ladies who were sitting on a couch behind the front desk. The aggressive one (and best one, in my opinion) came to the front desk to show the menu. I chose the basic menu which was 40000 Ar for an hour. We immediately went upstairs and the room was little too small for my taste, but the bed was covered with nice rose petals.

Amita sports one of the nicest booty I've ever seen along with her overall killer curvy figure. But she is short much like 1.52 metre tall. She indicates that she is 22 years old and came from Tulear thus she has a gorgeous black silky skin! After a small brief chat, I took my clothes off and went on bed. She didn't take her clothes off, and started to massage on my back with oil and then it was back to my front end. The massage was so-so, but once she fondled my dick and saw how gorgeous mr. Woody was, she immediately offered 100000 AR for a BJ which was outrageously high considering that I was a foreigner. I said that I've been to other salons and was offered lower than that. I said that we could do 20K for a BJ or go for whole thing for 40K. We settled for 60K for the whole thing.

She didn't even waste her time by taking her clothes off and went down on me licking all over me while I stood. Then, I asked her to lay down on the bed and I was really all over her delicious black skin. Wow, what sensitive skin she has and immediately went down on her thighs, teasing her by kissing all over her thighs so long that she lost her patience and just grabbed my head into her pussy. I tried to eat her pussy while fingering simultaneously, but she didn't enjoy it. Then I tried to finger her anus and stayed here while eating. She liked it so much and kept pressing my head into her pussy real hard. Finally, it was her turn to give a BJ and then after a while she asked me if I brought any condom as she didn't bring any. Good thing I brought it on my own because I simply liked to be prepared.

She immediately set up for a doggy position, but no, I told her that I'd like to go missionary because I liked to see her beautiful face and I knew that I'd probably cum in her in doggy style in the end. We did mish, cowgirl, spooning (she was intense at that time) , and then it came to doggy style and man, what a nice ass and figure she had. With her long curly hair in a ponytail, she was definitely m for a nice riding! After a good 5 minute, I finally came in. Then, we went to take a shower which we had to walk out of the room and go across the hallway to the bathroom. She cleaned my body well and went back to the room. I gave her a 10K tip for being a good sport she was and she immediately wanted to see if we could hang out sometimes this week. Unfortunately, I'm leaving Tana soon in a day.

Face: 8

Body: 9

Attitude: 8.

Massage: 5.

Ending: 9.

Even though I know that I could get lower for this lady, but this lady was too irresistible that I knew that her $$$ was going to a great education. I definitely would come back for her if I ever visit again in the future.

Vahaza Be

07-15-13, 19:54

Here's my recent report for Asmara Massage:

Even though I know that I could get lower for this lady, but this lady was too irresistible that I knew that her $$$ was going to a great education. I definitely would come back for her if I ever visit again in the future.Nice review, thanks.

Some folks here will probably think you overpaid for FS ( $50 USD total) , but hard to beat the combo of convenience, security and high quality poontang at that price. Sounds better than my just OK experiences at Happy Zone on the way to Ankatso.

KaliDude22

07-16-13, 08:43

Nice review, thanks.

Some folks here will probably think you overpaid for FS ($50 USD total) , but hard to beat the combo of convenience, security and high quality poontang at that price. Sounds better than my just OK experiences at Happy Zone on the way to Ankatso.I can't agree with you. With the 5 young ladies looking much better than the SWs out there nearby, it seems like Asmara Massage is the best salon for high quality ladies even though I haven't gone to other salons (I simply lied to Amita that I've been to other salons). Thanks to you and other reviewers, I've gotten to know Tana better than before as well as the price ranges. Hope my latest review will help others as this thread needs more latest reviews.

Random Guy 23

07-17-13, 16:25

Random Guy 23

07-17-13, 19:27

Also, I don't know if it has been mentioned here, but every night after 7:00pm there is a line of about a dozen SW across the street from the Hotel Grand Mellis in central Tana. Some of them look good. I don't know their details, because I don't speak French, and these ladies aren't as. Ummm. Outgoing as some of the SW in other parts of the world.

Amadeuss

07-18-13, 11:37

Recently someone on here recommended Hotel Gerard et Francine as a good place to stay in Ambatoloaka. I just read in the Lonely Planet guide that this particular hotel is active in lobbying against the sex trade in Nosy Be. So maybe we should avoid that hotel?

I dunno. I'm going to Nosy Be two weeks from now. I'll be staying at Espadon unless a regular here recommends a different place. Agenda: snorkeling, quad biking, poon. Not listed in order of importance, obviously.Yes. G & F is a family place.

Espadon. A bit run down. Inspect the room before check-in.

Cocoplage. Ambatoloaka, Téléphone +261 32 07 769 64, nice rooms guest friendly direct at the beach next to G&F
http://www.cocoplage-nosybe.com/

Frdrich55

07-24-13, 19:36

"As a reminder, Najat Maalla M'jid Special reporter of the United Nations against the exploitation of children is currently in Madagascar until July 26 to investigate the ground and decipher the various workings leading to sexual exploitation of minors in Madagascar.

Najat Maalla M'jid will then share her preliminary analysis with the Malagasy government on a comprehensive inventory of child prostitution in the Big Island, before turning her observations and conclusions in a comprehensive report presented in March 2014 at the Human Rights Council Rights of the UN."Some people perhaps look over your shoulders. Do by the rules.

Random Guy 23

07-31-13, 08:58

First time in Nosy Be. Someone said that getting a woman in Nosy Be is easy, it's getting rid of her that's hard. Those words describe my experience perfectly. I was out having lunch on my first day there, and I wasn't even trying to pick up, but I made brief eye contact with a young lady way across the room. Thinking nothing of it, I paid my tab and left. Unbeknownst to me, she followed me back to my hotel room. Then, uninvited, she opened the door, came into the room and took off her clothes.

You know, that sort of thing just never happens to me back in the US. But it should.

Anyway, from that point, I basically had a girlfriend for the next three days, and that was ok by me, but I realize that some of you prefer a different lady every night, and like I say, getting them to go away is the hard part, especially if you don't speak any French.

Anyway, thanks to all of you who helped me plan the Nosy Be trip.

On an unrelated note, I'm back in Tana, and I have never seen so many SW crowded into such a small area in my entire life. If I lived here, I would take a walk every night just to look at them all. I'm like a kid in a candy store.

Trevor2522

08-03-13, 03:39

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYRLJXvmTfE

Trevor2522

08-18-13, 02:35

http://www.allovoyages.fr/presse/toussaint-2012.php

This table shows how expensive Madagascar costs to fly and remain for a 6-night stay from France in the first week of European summer holidays. It's the most-expensive, ahead of New York and Sydney! The reason: it's hopelessly underserved by the air industry; few want to fly to such an economic basket-case. There is a ferry service from Mauritius but it's not very cheap or frequent.

Frdrich55

08-18-13, 03:25

This table shows how expensive Madagascar costs to fly and remain for a 6-night stay from France in the first week of European summer holidays. .Msieur, you are very theoretique. I think you do not have own experience. The price on that site is for business travel and wrong: only 1 hotel is 330 Eu in Tana, not average.

As tourist for our pleasure you can get flight from Paris below 1000 Eu and hotel for 20 Eu. Do not make wrong perception here, please.

Trevor2522

08-18-13, 18:37

Msieur, you are very theoretique. I think you do not have own experience. The price on that site is for business travel and wrong: only 1 hotel is 330 Eu in Tana, not average. As tourist for our pleasure you can get flight from Paris below 1000 Eu and hotel for 20 Eu. Do not make wrong perception here, please.I should clarify that the costs quoted are for a couple, and are not business fares. The chart is an excellent comparison of economy travel and mid-range hotel costs to 20 world destinations. If you think you can get a flight to Madagascar from Paris for €1000 you are sadly mistaken.

Those who live in the real world know prices have risen sharply over the past few years. Air France charges €1765 economy return CDG-TNR at this time. Sure you can get a poor hotel, below the exectations of the average monger, for €20 -- but those were international 3-star average comparisons. It's quite shocking that a short visit to Antananarivo from Europe out-prices New York and Sydney. This seriously hinders travel to what is otherwise a great punting destination. One's best hope is to book well ahead.

Get your facts straight and don't feed the troll, aka Max, aka The Wolverine.

FindGirls

08-18-13, 22:21

I am sorry but I agree with Frdrich55. Trevor2522, please respect other post unless you know better. I have been a few times to Tana (or Antananarivo for the ones who do not understand) to know what are the price that I should expect to pay to go there by plane from Paris.

Currently flights tickets from Paris to Antananarivo, for one person, economy, still costs less than 1000 EUR in the low season, unless you wait too long to buy your flight. During the high season prices will be higher. Last year I paid less than 1200 EUR in the high season but you need to compare the prices of companies and not just one.

Here are some examples for one person by company, Paris-Tana return, economy. I took them directly at the company's site on August 18.

- Air Madagascar site (not reliable enough for me to buy a ticket on line): 4 September. 21 September, price 977 including 389 airport taxes.

- Corsairfly: 7 September. 23 September, price 1 115. 11 eur, including 387 airport taxes.

- Air France: 6 September. 21 September, price 887. 44 including 389 airport taxes.

You will notice that airport taxes is a big part part (30% or more) of the overall ticket price.

One more thing. It seems that we have to pay now somekind of security tax for all outbound flights since June 2013 (I think). It costs 14.35 USD for international flights and 2.50 USD for domestic flights. Why do they use dollars? I don't know. Anyone can confirm? Thanks in advance.

Now about hotels in Tana.

The budget that I pay for hotels in Tana are more or less the same as Frdrich55. Even if I can pay more, the maximum budget that I pay is 30 eur per day. I don't need to be in three star (or more) hotels and I do not go to low budget hotels either. When the three star hotel is new, it is fine. After a few years the quality can go down. There are hotels in Tana not renovated enough. Moreover the girls that I see near expensive hotels seems to be more pros and greedy than the average. From time to time, I also prefer to stay in a flat or in appartment. With this option, the girl I bring back are not disturbed when we stay in bed longer.

This French site.

http://www.hotels-tananarive.com/#page=coeur-de-ville

Gives an idea about the hotel rates. You can switch the language to English at the upper left corner, but there are still a few French left. Not all the hotels are referenced in this site. Still for the ones who go there the first time it gives you a pretty good idea of the rates and the type of hotel you can expect to find.

At last and this is valid for medium and big hotels in Tana, I do not expect that you will find any full booked nowadays. So take your time to choose which you prefer, even when you are already there you can switch quite easily to another hotel on short notice, unless you have already made a full reservation for the whole period that you stay.

Member #4349

08-19-13, 02:09

Air France charges €1765 economy return CDG-TNR at this time.Trev: Oddly it seems cheaper to fly from London to TNR with Air France, via CDG if nec. And Kayak. Com offers flights at £721.

Member #4178

08-21-13, 10:52

Trev: Oddly it seems cheaper to fly from London to TNR with Air France, via CDG if nec. And Kayak. Com offers flights at £721.Another exotic route is to cheaply fly to Bangkok mongering for a few day and directly to Tana with Air MAD for 1500us$. This option allow a certain buffer in the returned ticket in the case that you miss your flight.

Flying with air MAD has the following advantage.

1. Significant discounted price for domestic flights.

2. Re-scheduling is normally free. (website shows different price scheme for that but in reality its free)

3. In the case of rescheduling, Mada office is there everywhere you go. Other companies may have only the head office in Tana.

After 5 years of research anyone should know it already. But if a person never made it, its certainly not because of the flight price.

Amadeuss

08-29-13, 12:01

Those who live in the real world.

Get your facts straight and don't feed the troll, aka Max, aka The Wolverine.I think we all her on the board do exchange our own experiences and do life well in today's world. No need to call anyone a "troll" if he tells us how he is travelling. Your wording is uncalled for.

My facts: did book for November Air Mauritius from Paris for 980-EU. Air France was offered to me for 1200-EU, but with a long stop in Reunion.

And I will stay in the Sole Hotel in Tana for a night for 64. 000 MGA (a bit over 20-EU) before moving on.

If you plan ahead its still possible to fly for 1000 EU ex Europe and to stay in decent hotels for 25-EU average.

Q. E. D

Member #4178

08-29-13, 12:22

My facts: did book for November Air Mauritius from Paris for 980-EU.Trevor2522 claim "If you think you can get a flight to Madagascar from Paris for €1000 you are sadly mistaken" so Botaki is not h live in the real world as Trevor said.

One thing is sure, Trevor rich experience from his non-stop flights to Mada, his detail reports from the last 5 years are a true exceptional. I am planing to print Trevor reports prior my next trip.

Amadeuss

08-30-13, 03:40

his detail reports from the last 5 years are a true exceptional. I am planing to print Trevor reports prior my next trip.You won't print much. Is there any? .

Member #4178

08-30-13, 08:37

You won't print much. Is there any? .Let agree to disagree. Trevor has been show a great knowledge though the years. OK he stole a few photos from John Palmer so what? Insulting Max no bog deal if you take into account his following contribution.

2009.

Labadi, does anyone really use "FMG" (5 FMG: 1 MGA = Ariary) any more?
10-16-10 20:07.

Can any resident experts advise regions with the best potential? Travel would be in April. Thanks.

1) Diego. Vohemar. Sambava in the North-East.

2) Mahajanga. Diego in the North-West.

3) Morondava. Toliara in the South-West.

4) Toliara. Fort Dauphin. Manakara in the South.

5) Manakara. Toamasina in the East (South. Central)

6) Toamasina. Maroantsetra in the East (North. Central) 01-06-11 09:00.

Gabrielsilva, can you give me a suitable hotel, guest house or apartment to stay in Diego Suarez?

Are any vazaha being hassled by police for paying adult women to have sex, as defined by the new law of 2008?

Thanks for your valued advice.08-12-11 23:51.

I have some queries regarding Madagascar customs officers at the airport in Antananarivo.

1) Do they search through your luggage?06-26-13 23:10. From language expert.

Romance and Love Phrases

Remember: the Malagasy speak quickly, drop middle-h's and some vowels (but not e's) , and use French numbers.06-18-13.

Good info, thanks. Where in Diego did you stay and how did you get back to Tana? Mada sounds like the kind of place where you have to move on to another town once the ladies get to know you and become too attached.

Vahaza Be

09-05-13, 14:25

Trevor.

A "yes" or "no" question.

Have you ever been to Madagascar?

Vb

Member #4178

09-06-13, 10:34

Trevor.

A "yes" or "no" question.

Have you ever been to Madagascar?

VbWith questions such as "immigration search through your luggage?" and "Does they use FMG?" you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. But this is not my issue as any member can post here even without actually visit Mada.

My only issue is that Travor made it personal as he pretend to know "Ella" from morandava and my "Marian" from Sambava. He also post her photo taken from "Tonga-Soa".

Now, There is some red lines needed not to be crossed.

Vahaza Be

09-16-13, 15:45

Trevor has added some useful links, and I thank him for them. Not trying to "out him".

My question was simply to determine if he's actually been there. I can then know what's theory and what's based on his first-hand experience.

Member #4178

09-16-13, 20:58

I can then know what's theory and what's based on his first-hand experience.You are not that extremely naive. I remember much sharper as you gave advice to Max and JP prior their trip. Exactly on time when they got back the forum was flooded with photos and stories.

JP took "Ella" photo as a gratitude for you for your excellent tips for his first trip. Did you ask Max and JP "what's theory and what's based on his first-hand experience"? No! You didn't need to.

Lats wait for a real mongers reports such as Botaki, Labadi, TigeDeJade and other serious guys. Forget the Troll.

Tungsten2

09-18-13, 16:07

I visited in mid-may to mid-July and need to post this while I still remember it. I've been to Kenya and Dar a few times but only considered Madagascar as a destination because of this site; I stayed within the tramlines of previous posts, so don't have anything ground-breaking to announce, but this may be helpful to anyone else thinking about going.

4 nights Tana. 5 nights Hellville / Ambataloaka. 15 nights Diego / Ramena. 3 nights Tamatave. 11 nights Tulear area. 15 nights elsewhere.

I started and finished in Tana. I didn't expect to like it and so I didn't. The cobbled streets around Hauteville are cute and it's worth a walk up to the Palace for the views, but it's plainly over-populated and you have to run a gauntlet of hawkers trying to sell maps / guidebooks / musical instruments / vanilla / spices. Definitely an edgy feel to it, but once you're off the street and inside there are some funky bars around (Manson, Kudeta, Mojo). It only occurred to me on my last night of the trip that everywhere else I'd just ambled along the same street and barely needed to use taxis. 2 nights twice were enough for me in Tana, not because it's small but because it was tiring, although I never made it to Le Caveau or Disco 16 which are close enough. Le Glacier is reliable day and night and I'm sure Indra can be good but when I visited it was largely full of drunk local guys (it was quite a shock to be in a club with less women than men). Stayed at Sunny City a few doors up from Hotel Sakamanga which was fine.

It was good to get to Hellville which has wide and empty streets. Stayed at Belle Vue which was really nice. Rooms at the back with a view even nicer. Bars like Nandipo, Le Manava & Porte Rouge were pleasant enough in the daytime but then I started to get sick and that was the end of my Nosy Be exploration. I made it up to Ambatoloaka and at 3pm was surprised at what a ghost town it was. Nothing was open, let alone full. There was music at night and Le Taxi Be seemed to be the centre but I can't pass on anything as I was bedridden for 2 days. I stayed at Chez Patrick which was definitely GF judging by my fellow guests' changing companions each morning at breakfast. There was a good cabana-style restaurant literally on the beach (Tantine?) that I visited for lunch. I'd called up a girl from Hellville just for the company but she started to get clingy (not pushy or demanding) and so once I was feeling better I just left Nosy Be which I regret now.

Upto Diego Suarez which I really liked. The port end of town is on a promontory and the locals don't live there much so it's laid-back and as a vazeha you can exist in a bubble. The French basically founded Diego so there's loads of elegantly mouldering Art Deco buildings and it is very atmospheric to wander around. If your favourite cities are eg New York or Dubai you won't like Diego; but then you probably won't like Madagascar. Action is pretty much confined to La Vahine which has music every night and is the only overt pick-up joint outside of the clubs. Fun to listen and watch but I didn't rate most of the girls. Also, given that most of the vaheza seem like retired postmen, (French, almost everyone is French) , girls seemed unnecessarily blinged-up. It's their country so they can wear what they like I guess, and I did pull one out of there my first night since she spoke ok english and filled me in on things but on my second day the first of 4 waitresses / receptionists separately volunteered what time they finished work / when their day off was and I was able to move out to Ramena and shuttle them over for a night and send them back. It was pretty blissful and of course there are waitresses in Ramena too. There's not much off the Rue Colbert and a real lack of other bars but you can sit in or outside the restaurants and watch the world go slowly by. It felt really safe too. I stayed in Hotel Ambassador which was a few doors up from La Boite Noire and fine but then moved into Hotel Karifa (?) which is yellow and just down from Place de la Musique and is perched right on the hillside with amazing views out over the bay. The LP guide mistakenly call it Villa La Baie de Diego Suarez. I spent 2 weeks in Diego but never on a weekend so can't comment on La Boite Noire and Nouvel Hotel club but the former was completely empty weeknights.

I did some touristy stuff for a while and then spent 3 nights in Tamatave which I didn't much like but again I barely needed to stray from Boulevard Joffre. My first night a waitress gave me her number but it didn't lead anywhere so on my last night I pulled a girl out of Queens who I'd earlier seen in La Terrasse which has some daytime action.

And on to Tulear. Once again, other than trips to the ATM you could just live on the main drag, going between Bo's Beach and La Grande Boeuf in the day and Tam Tam & Za Za at night. Being a small place, you may have to choose between GFE with one girl and brazenly working through the pros because I tried to juggle a waitress and 2 pros from Tam Tam and ended up having to change hotel. I stayed at Plazza Sur which is a stone's throw from Bo's and a 4 min walk from the rest. I visited Mangily which according to the guide is 'saturated with go-go tourism' but the place was quiet in July; no vazeha (just me and 2 Belgian lesbians) , no girls and not many bars. I liked Tulear; as has been said by others, the girls seemed more earthy than up north.

I spent 1 night in Fianarantsoa which looked horrible but I only saw the gare routiere and didn't make it to Fort Dauphin or Majunga or Morondava.

Those are the nuts & bolts. I'll post soon on general impressions, prices, language etc but basically I had a blast even though I missed out completely on Ambatoloaka. I was there in low season. Several hotels I was the only guest and it may have made the place seem less of a destination than it usually is.

Member #4178

09-19-13, 07:33

I visited in mid-may to mid-July

4 nights Tana. 5 nights Hellville / Ambataloaka. 15 nights Diego / Ramena. 3 nights Tamatave. 11 nights Tulear area. 15 nights elsewhere.Thanks 4 the report. I took a calculator and got 53 days not one month.

15 nights elsewhere?

Good report!

Member #4178

09-19-13, 13:00

I visited in mid-may to mid-JulySorry for my mistake.

Member #4178

09-20-13, 21:13

Some members will instantly recognize. No more the one second.

Tungsten2

09-22-13, 13:30

Following up # 1246, some overall impressions.

Once you're off the plane, it's cheap; you know you're onto a winner when the largest banknote equals less than 4 euro. Outside of Tana I never needed to pay more than 35 euro for a room, and usually much less. Even in a place run by French for French, zebu & frites, tomato salad and large beer were 6 euro. Loads of seafood too.

It does feel different. There's an Africa-with-a-twist feel to the place and the people. Few girls were stunners but few were fuglies and although they're mostly small, there's enough variation in skin tone and bone structure to keep it interesting. They know they're poor but they don't really know what rich is, so (outside Tana) it's pretty relaxed. No chains; no Next, no Starbucks.

I was handing over 20-25k in the mornings and only one wanted more. And she was a pro. One girl's monthly rent out in the sticks was 10k.

It's true that there's not much going on in the towns during the day and the beer at 5. 4% upwards is too strong for steady daytime drinking. I had hopes for the flavoured rums thinking they'd be smooth but they're firewater.

The main hurdle is that you need some French but that's good because it means most people don't go. My French is dredged up from schooldays and nothing special but maybe that made me a novelty to the barstaff girls (the pros don't care). In June there were few tourists and the expats are mostly retired so if you're young (er) and take an interest in them you can clean up. The first girls I spoke to in Madagascar (Glacier) spoke ok English and, come to think of it, so did the first in Diego. They were pros. So it's no different to anywhere else really.

I liked it a lot. Probably won't go back due to terminal Grass-is-Greener Syndrome which is taking me next to West Africa but I recommend it. Oh yeah, and the wildlife is good too.