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Sankum2000
04-10-19, 18:10
Am in Jo'Burg today and tomorrow. Reached out to a few girls on Locante, ESA.
Everyone seems to ask for appointment booking upfront by paying a % amount to her mobile number via instant money, or pay to a bank account and bring the pay slip to her for the in call. Is this the norm? If I am hosting her, what if she doesn't turn up, or the photo and person don't match? I offered a girl that I will come to meet her and pay the booking amount in cash. She refused. Makes me wonder.
Hey guys,
Just curious. Many people here were talking about huge asses in South Africa but what about huge boobs? Are there many huge-boobed girls in Cape Town and Johannesburg?
Am in Jo'Burg today and tomorrow. Reached out to a few girls on Locante, ESA.
Everyone seems to ask for appointment booking upfront by paying a % amount to her mobile number via instant money, or pay to a bank account and bring the pay slip to her for the in call. Is this the norm? If I am hosting her, what if she doesn't turn up, or the photo and person don't match? I offered a girl that I will come to meet her and pay the booking amount in cash. She refused. Makes me wonder.This wasn't the case when I was there last year. I imagine as mobile payments have become more sophisticated, ladies are either A. Trying to scam you be. Trying to weed out the people that call, set up an appt. But never come.
I'd be hesitant to do it, tbh, but if there's a certain provider that I think "scratches" my itch, I'll go for it.
I wouldn't deposit more than 5% of the total booking. Really what you're doing is signaling to her that you're serious and essentially holding your spot in line.
This wasn't the case when I was there last year. I imagine as mobile payments have become more sophisticated, ladies are either A. Trying to scam you be. Trying to weed out the people that call, set up an appt. But never come.
I'd be hesitant to do it, tbh, but if there's a certain provider that I think "scratches" my itch, I'll go for it.
I wouldn't deposit more than 5% of the total booking. Really what you're doing is signaling to her that you're serious and essentially holding your spot in line.It's a scam.
Promitheus
04-15-19, 17:56
Dear respected mongers. Hope you are all doing well. Going to Durban port next week. Any suggestions on where to get quick action.
Also is any massage parlours available there?
Promitheus
04-21-19, 20:25
Went go Lido yesterday. Didn't like it. Some said it is dull now a days.
Got a suggestion about galaxy world which was close. Thinking of going there tomorrow. Any 1 have experience in there? How is the cost.
Went go Lido yesterday. Didn't like it. Some said it is dull now a days.
Got a suggestion about galaxy world which was close. Thinking of going there tomorrow. Any 1 have experience in there? How is the cost.Been several years since I was last in the aged Lido. Yes, back in the day it was a hotspot for the professionals, it was very popular. Recall there being quite an international mix of girls, most being professional hardcore there seemed to be a pretty good vibe with roughly a dozen girls. Lido is best explored late night and has been a seamens hangout for well over fifty plus years. I took out a volcanic African girl who tried to lock me in her apartment over a money dispute. I was cool and won out but one does not need drama in the hobby, adventure yes.
Galaxy I recall being an Escort agency which I avoid, so cannot give advise.
Monte Carlo? In the vicinity as well if it is still alive.
Go for a drink on North Beach, lots of girls parade. Negotiate, some lovely girls about and a far cheaper option. Check back on my posts some four to seven years, I posted some details about North Beach area. This is where I hangout early evening, beering, perving the parade and pick up. Negotiate. You should not pay more than R300.
Promitheus
04-24-19, 04:12
Been several years since I was last in the aged Lido. Yes, back in the day it was a hotspot for the professionals, it was very popular. Recall there being quite an international mix of girls, most being professional hardcore there seemed to be a pretty good vibe with roughly a dozen girls. Lido is best explored late night and has been a seamens hangout for well over fifty plus years. I took out a volcanic African girl who tried to lock me in her apartment over a money dispute. I was cool and won out but one does not need drama in the hobby, adventure yes.
Galaxy I recall being an Escort agency which I avoid, so cannot give advise.
Monte Carlo? In the vicinity as well if it is still alive.
Go for a drink on North Beach, lots of girls parade. Negotiate, some lovely girls about and a far cheaper option. Check back on my posts some four to seven years, I posted some details about North Beach area. This is where I hangout early evening, beering, perving the parade and pick up. Negotiate. You should not pay more than R300.Thanks man. For the advice. I went to Lido after 10 on a Saturday nigh, 5/6 girls were available. One was pretty but asked for 50 dollars and had to go to a hotel. Which I didn't feel like safe. I am also a seaman and one of my friend was robbed there.
I was interested about galaxy because I heard the have rooms. Had been busy for last 3 days so Couldn't go there. I will try tomorrow.
Also the north beach I will try my luck.
Thanks again.
The area marked in red is where you want to hang out 6 pm - 9 pm. The girls do their trips up and down. Parade Hotel has a lovely pub where you can view them pass by, say Hello, to Julius (barman). A few girls sit in the pub. Joe Cools marked X has not really done it for me but you may strike it lucky. The area is very pleasant, clean and safe strolling about, but do not venture toward town on foot.
On previous visits to Cape Town, I've posted about the great times I had at The Embassy brothel on Castle Street. I'm returning to Cape Town next month and to my disappointment it seems The Embassy is now closed? Can anyone advise if it has relocated elsewhere, or alternatively recommend somewhere else in the CBD? My preference is for slim young back girls,. The only other place I have been able to find in the CBD is Nauty40, but judging by their website the ladies seem much older and fatter? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Also, does anyone have any experience of the private dances at Mavericks strip club? At face value the prices seem extremely expensive, but I am unsure exactly what is on offer.
Many thanks.
Has anyone used them? They legit?
Any one used them? They legit?
KolkataRoy
05-21-19, 10:55
Hi guys,
Greetings from Asia.
Will be in Joburg in June for a quick trip. No hotel booked yet. Need suggestions on hotel where I can pick up girls from lobby or bar. Instead you can PM me contacts of reasonable chicks. I prefer white ones than coloured.
Have a bad experience last time in garden court O are Tambo.
Regards and thanks in advance.
Social Media has allowed info spread quickly on the Thailands, Colombias and DRs of the world. Its almost seems like those places are seeing way too much traffic.
I like that SA is still well under the radar for most people. Western Amenities, African Prices. I'm learning more and more each day of how I can make my next trip even better. I still have some spots in JHB to check out (Sandton by the day for semi-pros, Summit and Royal Park, car game etc).
I still haven't scraped Pretoria or CT or Durban. There are still some smaller cities as well. That, and there's checking out the more remote provinces.
Good mix of on ground entertainment and convenient entertainment you can source from the internet. Probably going to be looking for 8-9 days next time around. JHB and Pretoria definitely. Kinda on the fence between Durban and CT. I prefer black ladies so Durban has more appeal to me.
In the way from I. A. Tamboo to Joburg I saw an advertisement called redvelt.
I looked the girls and one Asian called my attention: picture with nice body shape, under the name of Sammy.
We agreed 700 zar /30 min in her place.
Reached the local, a residential apartment. Surprising enough it was a lady boy. I was fooled.
To not waist the time and trip, I was happy with a BBJ and massage.
Be careful guys.
Visiting South Africa for two weeks on honeymoon and am looking for upscale companion that will see couples. Looking in the areas of downtown Cape Town and Mauritius. Preferably blonde. I've been looking on ESA but just wanted to make sure there wasn't a better way to find someone. Also any recommendations on strip clubs in Cape Town would be great, preferably on the nicer side. Thanks and happy mongering!
What's up brothers long time monger here about to travel to South Africa for the first time. I usually go to Sosua but a friend of mine encouraged me to come to South Africa because I love big ole monster booties LOL he said I would be in heaven there. I'm heading there in October so I'm doing my research now. Ant advice is much appreciated. First time there so I don't know anything about there and my friend only went once when he was younger. Where to stay what are the do's and don't's what's the average price so I don't ruin the game for everyone like they doing in Sosua LOL. And most importantly where do I find the mega butt women LOL I'm talking about like a chick I seen named Boosy zar from Africa I want those types.
What's up brothers long time monger here about to travel to South Africa for the first time. I usually go to Sosua but a friend of mine encouraged me to come to South Africa because I love big ole monster booties LOL he said I would be in heaven there. I'm heading there in October so I'm doing my research now. Ant advice is much appreciated. First time there so I don't know anything about there and my friend only went once when he was younger. Where to stay what are the do's and don't's what's the average price so I don't ruin the game for everyone like they doing in Sosua LOL. And most importantly where do I find the mega butt women LOL I'm talking about like a chick I seen named Boosy zar from Africa I want those types.My Man! Once you said Boosy Zar I knew you were a like minded brother like me SA is "The spot" for thick women shaped like Cherokee d'Ass, Ms. Cleo (you know where I'm going with this LOL). Funny thing is I'm planning a trip to Sosua in a few months as well and I've been doing my research.
Anyway, I was was in SA about this time last year so my knowledge is still fresh. This will be a long post but I want to make sure I point you in the right direction. You're going to have a great time if thick, big booty women is your preference. I'm even planning a trip next year to hit some spots I didn't get a chance to last time LOL. I'll break down my advice into sections for you to reference.
1. Where to Stay.
2. SA Talent.
3. General Tips.
1. Where to stay. I can only really speak to Jo'Burg as that's where I stayed for my trip. I suggest staying in Rosebank or Sandton City. It's the more upmarket part of Jo'Burg and is good for semi-pros (more on that later). I stayed in Downtown in a hip area of town which was good, but was a tad removed from some of the action. If you can, I suggest getting a vacation rental or ABB. A hotel will suffice as well, but sometimes it's nice to bypass the concierge desk. I can't really speak to Cape Town though. I'll add this, Pretoria is like a 40 min drive or 20 min train ride from Jo'Burg. While I don't recommend staying there, there are some clubs there that might be worth a visit and some day game potential.
2. SA talent. Ok, for SA (again, Jo'Burg and Pretoria) the mongering game is quite varied so you can choose your niche.
-Semi-pro's / regular girls (day game).
-Online sites.
-Strip clubs.
-Streetwalkers.
-Club Girls.
Ok, (semi-pros and regular girls). While there, I noticed there were a fair number of young college aged girls that weren't pros, but would definitely drop their panties for a dude with some $ to spend on them (go out for drinks, go grab food etc). From your posts you seem on the younger side so this should still be applicable. Spots to check out are Rosebank Mall, Sandton Center and Maboneng Precinct (on Saturday and Sunday afternoons). If you see a girl you're interested in. Be direct, chat her up and offer to meet for drinks later. I nailed one girl in this manner. It's nice for variety. Another area with a lot of chicks like that is 'Braamfontein' aka 'Braam', it's a college town of sorts and you'll see some uni chicks at 'Neigbor.
(Online sites). This is probably where you'll do the most damage, I know this is where I did mine as well. The 2 sites I can vouch for are ESA and Redvelvet. Search "Escorts South Africa" and "redvelvet escort SA" in Google and you see them both listed as the first links. ESA is a provider pay site, meaning the girls have to pay to post each month. If they don't pay, their ads are removed. The best way to use ESA is to pay for VIP membership (like 10 usd for a month or so) about 2-3 weeks before you leave for SA. Scout the girls you're interested in and take a screenshot of their pics.
You want to ensure you know what they look like incase their profiles disappear because of non-payment. With ESA you can easily rack up 20-30 girls between Jo'Burg and Pretoria. In terms of prices, I remember having this crazy Cherokee the'Ass type lady for about 500 ZAR for the hour (35 USD). Most ST (1 HR) encounters should be about 35 - 50 USD so abut 500 - 700 ZAR for an incall. This is mainly for black women. You can probably +/- 200 ZAR in either direction depending on the woman. I never did an overnight or longtime, but that Cherokee lady I was talking about, she quoted me 1,500 ZAR so about 100 USD. Redvelvet is pretty similar to ESA. I just prefer ESA's layout because you can search by specific region e. G. Sandton, Rosebank, Hyde Park etc. Very useful to know as Jo'Burg is quite spread out and isn't as centralized as Sosua. There are some other sites but you really will be good with those two.
(Strip clubs) The main one I'd suggest is "Royal Park Hotel" in Jo'Burg. There's another one as well but I haven't been. Royal Park has some thick ass women. Only slight downside is it's location. It's close to a rough part of town although the inside is safe and secure. Uber drivers will always drop you a block down and ask you to walk there because of issues they have with the taxi drivers out there. My advice is take an uber there and take a taxi back. Yes, the taxi will overcharge you, but at least you'll be in the clear. Ok, Royal Park itself is a very very nice strip club with rooms the ladies rent above the club. Obviously the best nights to go are the weekends but any night will be pretty good. Best way to play this is to find a stripper you like, bring her back into your corner and negotiate from there. You can either go up to her room or get her number and try to meet up with her later. I would choose the latter. Anyway, when I was there, there were some crazy thick women. I didn't get any numbers because I was with a regular chick that I picked up a couple days before. Rookie mistake on my part. This is one of the reasons I have to go back a 2nd time. Right my wrongs LOL. Summit Club is the other strip club.
(Streetwalkers) Don't really know too much about these, but I do know they're there on some certain streets. I'd honestly just avoid (I also didn't have a car).
(Club Girls) Last place for P4P is in clubs. Not every girl in a club is working, but it's easy to spot out the ones that are. Check out NewsCafe in Rosebank and Sandton. Blue Room Central and Hangar Club in Pretoria as well.
In summary, I think you should look to online sites first and then see what's on ground at the clubs and those malls as well. Pretoria has some more gems, but I didn't have the chance to explore it like I wanted. A lot of thick women there as well.
General tips.
-This one is a no brainier but strap up. SA is not the country to get lost in the sauce.
-Bring a lot of uber money. Jo'Burg is very spread out so you have to be cognizant of that. You also don't want the liability of a rental car.
-Jo'Burg is a very cosmopolitan city, and I've heard even thicker women are located in the smaller towns. However, Jo'Burg will be more than enough for what you need.
-Check out Carlton Centre. It's a shopping mall to do some ground day game.
-Many girls online will prefer to do incalls than outcalls, or if they do an outcall, they'll want to meet someplace public first.
-All the girls I saw for incalls were all at these guest house type places.
-SA isn't point and click like Sosua, but I think the scene is very robust if you know where to look.
-Have fun and report back. Feel free to send me a pri message if you have more questions.
Sankum2000
06-28-19, 11:04
Guys,
Reeporting from a visit to this club.
Most of the chicks are black, so go there if you fancy blacks.
R110 entry fee. 30 minute session was for R380.
Pole dance show is average (saw better in Thailand).
Went to the room with a girl. Poor service, shabby room. Won't visit again.
But I guess that's what you get at that price.
Advice: On return take taxi. Uber will not pick you up from the club.
And do not stand outside the club with mobile in your hand, even if booking Uber. I got robbed of my mobile.
Hope this helps.
Guys,
Reeporting from a visit to this club.
Most of the chicks are black, so go there if you fancy blacks.
R110 entry fee. 30 minute session was for R380.
Pole dance show is average (saw better in Thailand).
Went to the room with a girl. Poor service, shabby room. Won't visit again.
But I guess that's what you get at that price.
Advice: On return take taxi. Uber will not pick you up from the club.
And do not stand outside the club with mobile in your hand, even if booking Uber. I got robbed of my mobile.
Hope this helps.Sorry you got robbed man. I imagine Summit is similar to Royal Park as far as women and location. I think it's better to take a girl back home with you than to see her in the rooms there. Definitely agree on the taxi part. Once I saw my uber drop me off some ways out on my way to the club, I knew what was up.
Few questions. Taxi or uber Cost from airport to Sandton? Cost from Sandton to Summit club or Royal park hotel? Is it a good ideal to spend first weekend at Summit club and Royal park hotel? Is it difficult to ditch the regulars after few days? Is 4 weeks too long in Johannesburg or there{s enough action to last that long. I stayed 28 days in Pattaya Thailand and love it. Different chic almost every day. Please give advise, planning trip to Kampala, Uganda as well.
Few questions. Taxi or uber Cost from airport to Sandton? Cost from Sandton to Summit club or Royal park hotel? Is it a good ideal to spend first weekend at Summit club and Royal park hotel? Is it difficult to ditch the regulars after few days? Is 4 weeks too long in Johannesburg or there{s enough action to last that long. I stayed 28 days in Pattaya Thailand and love it. Different chic almost every day. Please give advise, planning trip to Kampala, Uganda as well.Not sure the Uber cost but you can get a fare estimate on Uber's website. Just input your travel locations and they'll give you a fare estimate you can use to plan accordingly.
I don't think you actually want to stay in the Royal Park or Summit Club hotel's. Those should only be spots to pick some chicks and then take back to your hotel. I think it's pretty easy to ditch a chick with no problems.
4 weeks in Jo'Burg is plenty. I think 2 weeks is good to get at women and sample the area. You can get a different women every day if you use websites, day game and clubs. The "issue" is that Jo'Burg is spread out and there isn't a specific area for mongering unlike a place like Pattaya. I think 2 weeks in Jo'Burg and Pretoria (25 minutes north of Jo'Burg) will be good. Kampala also seems like a very very good time.
Not sure the Uber cost but you can get a fare estimate on Uber's website. Just input your travel locations and they'll give you a fare estimate you can use to plan accordingly.
I don't think you actually want to stay in the Royal Park or Summit Club hotel's. Those should only be spots to pick some chicks and then take back to your hotel. I think it's pretty easy to ditch a chick with no problems.
4 weeks in Jo'Burg is plenty. I think 2 weeks is good to get at women and sample the area. You can get a different women every day if you use websites, day game and clubs. The "issue" is that Jo'Burg is spread out and there isn't a specific area for mongering unlike a place like Pattaya. I think 2 weeks in Jo'Burg and Pretoria (25 minutes north of Jo'Burg) will be good. Kampala also seems like a very very good time.My intentions is to stay in maboneng for week long visits to summit and royal park while enjoying weekend in maboneng. Then shifting to rosebank or sandton to entertain ground activities at rosebank and sandton. Is the ground activities plenty at the malls?
My intentions is to stay in maboneng for week long visits to summit and royal park while enjoying weekend in maboneng. Then shifting to rosebank or sandton to entertain ground activities at rosebank and sandton. Is the ground activities plenty at the malls?That sounds like a very good plan. Maboneng is really good on the weekends. There's plenty ground game in the Sandton and Rosebank malls. You'll just have to be outgoing and be intentional with your actions.
That sounds like a very good plan. Maboneng is really good on the weekends. There's plenty ground game in the Sandton and Rosebank malls. You'll just have to be outgoing and be intentional with your actions.What websites you suggest to use? Many airbnbs does not include air conditioner. For October-November trip, will that be uncomfortable or OK weather wise?
What websites you suggest to use? Many airbnbs does not include air conditioner. For October-November trip, will that be uncomfortable or OK weather wise?What websites? Like websites for accommodations? Not sure, I used an Airbnb and it didn't have an AC. It did have a fan and I went during the start of their winter so I was fine. I would look into vacation rentals or serviced apartments. They tend to have more amenities.
If by websites you mean for women, then I'the say check out a post I put up a few weeks back. It's pretty comprehensive. And by ground game, I mean going for semi-pros. So going to the malls and talking to girls. You definitely don't want to be vague with what your looking for. At the same time don't be crazy expletive. I've also heard the upscale hotels in Sandton have bars that are frequented by semi-pros and the like.
JoBurg definitely is not point and click like some other countries, but it does have its thrill as well.
Have you guys had succes with white girls in shopping malls or in the street?
Or are you only hunting black girls?
I've also heard the upscale hotels in Sandton have bars that are frequented by semi-pros and the like..I've seen them at the Intercontinental Sandton, where there are more areas to congregate. The bars at Michaelangelo and over in Rosebank at the Hyatt were a little less obvious. I couldn't say I was sure, but one of the doormen at Sandton pointed out a regular to me 2 years back and also offered to "help me find" the right girl. Another doorman told me to just look in the back pages of the newspaper where there are pages of ads (or used to be). I never had luck turning stippers into "outcall" ladies at the strip clubs. They wanted way too much money to moonlight after their shifts.
PS Uber was much better than taxis for fares and pretty darn cheap.
Have you guys had succes with white girls in shopping malls or in the street?
Or are you only hunting black girls?Only black women. I like the big booties and SA has them in abundance. Probably Top 3 countries for big booty women in Africa. I heard it's even better in places like Durban. Jo'Burg is far mixed as far as body type.
I've seen them at the Intercontinental Sandton, where there are more areas to congregate. The bars at Michaelangelo and over in Rosebank at the Hyatt were a little less obvious. I couldn't say I was sure, but one of the doormen at Sandton pointed out a regular to me 2 years back and also offered to "help me find" the right girl. Another doorman told me to just look in the back pages of the newspaper where there are pages of ads (or used to be). I never had luck turning stippers into "outcall" ladies at the strip clubs. They wanted way too much money to moonlight after their shifts.
PS Uber was much better than taxis for fares and pretty darn cheap.When I was there I noticed some semi-pros at the Sandton City center as well. Very lowkey though, but to the trained eye, you could spot them out. Another reason I like SA. On surface it doesn't seem like a proper P4P destination as a Kampala or Nairobi would be. But once you get there, you realize there are a lot of options hidden in plain sight.
A good rule of thumb in Africa is follow the money and follow the "enjoyment" trail. Essentially, find the spots that men go to spend money and enjoy themselves e. G. Bars, clubs, casinos and lounges. Find those places and you'll find women that are looking for a cut of that money as well.
Next time will be a better time now that I know what I know.
JackHammer0
07-18-19, 22:07
I'll be visiting Cape Town in a couple of weeks. It'll be my first time there, and was wondering what the brothels and escorts were like.
I'm looking for all info: what brothels are best in selection, price ranges for services, and safest (I don't want to catch anything and don't want to be caught in a bad part of town not knowing what I'm getting into).
I don't really like black girls. Nothing wrong with them, I just get a lot more turned on by white girls, especially blondes, with big tits, augmented are even better, unless they're young and firm. I do prefer them young.
I'll be visiting for a week or so.
Are there escorts? How do I contact and how much do they usually charge for sex? Any recommendations?
I would really appreciate all inside info you could provide. Thanks in advance!
JackHammer0
07-22-19, 22:10
So I've been doing online research and found a bunch of online escort and massage sites, besides those mentioned for Johannesburg.
Can anyone provide a review for allure massage studio? How about escorts like Caprice in Cape Town? Her profile does say verified. There are many I'm interested in, but I have no idea what the rates are. If anyone can provide ballpark price ranges for escorts in Cape Town, I'the much appreciate it. I'm sure the prices vary (I saw a $600 an hour website for drop dead gorgeous Russian escorts), but there are other great looking girls not associated with that site, who are in the more run of the mill sites, and I'm wondering if anyone has an idea of price ranges so I don't overpay.
Thanks!
I'll be visiting Cape Town in a couple of weeks. It'll be my first time there, and was wondering what the brothels and escorts were like.
I'm looking for all info: what brothels are best in selection, price ranges for services, and safest (I don't want to catch anything and don't want to be caught in a bad part of town not knowing what I'm getting into).
I don't really like black girls. Nothing wrong with them, I just get a lot more turned on by white girls, especially blondes, with big tits, augmented are even better, unless they're young and firm. I do prefer them young.
I'll be visiting for a week or so.
Are there escorts? How do I contact and how much do they usually charge for sex? Any recommendations?
I would really appreciate all inside info you could provide. Thanks in advance!
I traveled to JB quite a bit two years ago and I used "Escort South Africa" https://www.***********/.
I paid for access so I could see the reviews of the girls. I found a cute blonde in her early 30's that was a sex machine. Lots of fun and did not watch the clock. Set me back about $130 (US). I saw her several times and it only got better each time (which is hard to believe cause she blew my mind the first time!
If you see a girl on Red Velvet, check and see if she is on the ESA website for reviews. Beware of cute Asians who have had the transition surgery (he to she).
Happy hunting.Hi,
I will be in JB from this weekend for one week. Would you share that contact of the cute blonde in her 30ies? I am interested.
Do any of you guys know the best and safe way to hook up Amsterdam quality herb in Cape Town? I would be very grateful and it would perfect my trip next month.
Norfolklad
09-06-19, 21:52
Rent a car.
Take a drive to Somerset West.
Find Victoria Centre, 7 Victoria St.
You will see a bunch of rastas lurking in front of the building.
Ask for Judah.
Rent a car.
Take a drive to Somerset West.
Find Victoria Centre, 7 Victoria St.
You will see a bunch of rastas lurking in front of the building.
Ask for Judah.Is it safe to go there on my own?
Norfolklad
09-14-19, 21:57
Is it safe to go there on my own?Yes it is safe to go there on your own.
Is it safe to go there on my own?I am not sure if you went to cape town yet but another option would be to go to the 420 store and ask them. They sell 420 accessories and I am sure they know where to get high quality weed. If you are in Joburg, they have a 420 cafe shop that sells weed. Same set up like amsterdam. 420 cafe is the name of the place in Joburg. 420 store is name of the store in cape town
JoeWaterus
10-21-19, 15:35
While preparing for my trip to Joburg I found Amira and got hooked up to her fotos. However I can't find any review on esa or redvelvit. Does anybody know the lady?
https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-johannesburg/amira-black
Thanks for your support.
Joe.
MonacoFranke
10-29-19, 10:12
I'll be in Capetown and Western Cape early November and wonder whether there's any new interesting girls / sites / clubs?
The last time I was in the area in March 2018 I had some average to good experiences mainly via red velvet (best was a cute stunner from Ghana named Vera in a privat flat in Claremont) and an excellent via Locanto (ordinary girl responded to my ad. No damage, real GF experience).
Wasn't really planning to monger much in south Africa but after 1 day here I've changed my mind, the girls look good out here, thick mixed race girls everywhere.
1st night went nelson Mandela square for food, see 2 girls just as you enter the square, 1 girl by the statue, 4 on one bench. Maybe 1 interests me but not enough to bother.
2nd day, go on badoo, get loads of matches, arrange to meet one girl near me for drinks. Before meeting she asks if I'll cover her uber, the one time a girl has asked me this in the past it was bit of a scam so I cancel the date and just head to Mandela square again. Maybe 4-5 girls, I go grab food, when I return just two on a bench one overweight one old, sit next to them and they start chatting to me, they do come across well but not for me, the other girls have gone walking around the mall apparently. This is a weekday, maybe better at the weekend.
3rd day, decide to just use the ESA website, call three girls I like to see rates, two want 600 are for hour and 100 are extra for BBBJ other wants 800 are for the hour including BBBJ. I decide to go with the one with the most good reviews. Nice girl, good service, carrying a bit more weight than her photos though. 700 are including BBBJ.
You need a car to get anywhere out here, uber is comparatively cheap but adds up when using it all day and night. Maybe better to rent a car.
FNB bank had no atms fees.
Leaving Joberg to see cape town and Durban over the next two weeks. I prefer freelance or semi pro girls that I can bring back to my place for more unrushed time. Anyone know best option for this in CT and Durban. Any bars, areas or dating apps? Or something like Mandela square? Thanks.
Wasn't really planning to monger much in south Africa but after 1 day here I've changed my mind, the girls look good out here, thick mixed race girls everywhere.
1st night went nelson Mandela square for food, see 2 girls just as you enter the square, 1 girl by the statue, 4 on one bench. Maybe 1 interests me but not enough to bother.
2nd day, go on badoo, get loads of matches, arrange to meet one girl near me for drinks. Before meeting she asks if I'll cover her uber, the one time a girl has asked me this in the past it was bit of a scam so I cancel the date and just head to Mandela square again. Maybe 4-5 girls, I go grab food, when I return just two on a bench one overweight one old, sit next to them and they start chatting to me, they do come across well but not for me, the other girls have gone walking around the mall apparently. This is a weekday, maybe better at the weekend.
3rd day, decide to just use the ESA website, call three girls I like to see rates, two want 600 are for hour and 100 are extra for BBBJ other wants 800 are for the hour including BBBJ. I decide to go with the one with the most good reviews. Nice girl, good service, carrying a bit more weight than her photos though. 700 are including BBBJ.
You need a car to get anywhere out here, uber is comparatively cheap but adds up when using it all day and night. Maybe better to rent a car.
FNB bank had no atms fees.
Leaving Joberg to see cape town and Durban over the next two weeks. I prefer freelance or semi pro girls that I can bring back to my place for more unrushed time. Anyone know best option for this in CT and Durban. Any bars, areas or dating apps? Or something like Mandela square? Thanks.3 Days in Jozi won't do you justice if you're looking for a freelancer or semi-pro. 3 days is really only good for ESA and RedVelvet pros.
You had the right idea in mind with Mandela square. However, I find that a lot of semi-pros can be found at the Sandton clubs, bars and lounges at night. Usually they aren't to hard to spot. I haven't done CT or Durban, but I imagine its the same set-up. Go to clubs / lounges and scope for the chicks with wandering eyes and the girls that are eager to "party".
One place I have heard about in CT is this place called "Cubana". It's like a restaurant / lounge type place. Best thing to do would simply be to talk to different chicks and get a vibe as to who's down for what. The girls that'll put out will make it quite obvious.
For dating apps, Badoo and Tinder should do you well. I wish I had more insight on the bars and clubs outside of Cubana in CT. I will say this, most clubs tend to be located all together so I'd imagine the main party spots should be your ground zero.
And yes, SA has a lot of thick women around. Probably my favorite place on the continent.
Spot on about Uber. It's cheap but adds up quickly because you have to use it to go everywhere. For my next trip down there I'm torn as to whether I'll rent a car or drive.
Going to be on the lookout for more reports from you.
3 Days in Jozi won't do you justice if you're looking for a freelancer or semi-pro. 3 days is really only good for ESA and RedVelvet pros.
You had the right idea in mind with Mandela square. However, I find that a lot of semi-pros can be found at the Sandton clubs, bars and lounges at night. Usually they aren't to hard to spot. I haven't done CT or Durban, but I imagine its the same set-up. Go to clubs / lounges and scope for the chicks with wandering eyes and the girls that are eager to "party".
One place I have heard about in CT is this place called "Cubana". It's like a restaurant / lounge type place. Best thing to do would simply be to talk to different chicks and get a vibe as to who's down for what. The girls that'll put out will make it quite obvious.
For dating apps, Badoo and Tinder should do you well. I wish I had more insight on the bars and clubs outside of Cubana in CT. I will say this, most clubs tend to be located all together so I'd imagine the main party spots should be your ground zero.
And yes, SA has a lot of thick women around. Probably my favorite place on the continent.
Spot on about Uber. It's cheap but adds up quickly because you have to use it to go everywhere. For my next trip down there I'm torn as to whether I'll rent a car or drive.
Going to be on the lookout for more reports from you.To piggy back off your statement. The mall is also a good place to meet women. Especially the women who work in the malls. I had two opportunities to get numbers but I didn't seize the opportunity. I was enjoying summit club, royal park, and the women off ESA website to much to try and wife a regular girl. My time was limited also so that didn't help. Zako, I am returning in December, what club or lounge you recommend? I guess I could go to IG and see where the happening spots are.
To piggy back off your statement. The mall is also a good place to meet women. Especially the women who work in the malls. I had two opportunities to get numbers but I didn't seize the opportunity. I was enjoying summit club, royal park, and the women off ESA website to much to try and wife a regular girl. My time was limited also so that didn't help. Zako, I am returning in December, what club or lounge you recommend? I guess I could go to IG and see where the happening spots are.Confiable, what's up man.
Recommendations on clubs: Newscafe in Sandton or Rosebank, Onyx in Sandton, Cubana. Those should do you well. I saw a good number of semi-pros at the Newscafe in Sandton. There are some other clubs adjacent to it but their names escape me. If you set up shop there you'll be good.
I second the iG route as well. Get a sense of the locations these girls are going to. Keep a look out for girls that just post pics of themselves always partying with seemingly no work. They usually are doing something on the low.
December is a great time to go from what I've heard. I'll be in Western Africa, however. I'll be back to Jozi next year.
Keep us updated. PM me, I got the iG of a few SA baddies that might be on the Semi-pro tip.
Jumanji2020
11-11-19, 22:50
Hi folks,
New here.
Visited Joburg last summer for 3 days and stayed at a hotel in Sandton hooked you with lady form bar for an evening. Headed back next summer and staying at Southern Sun at the OR Tambo. Does anybody know if this hotel is girl friendly or a bar / lounge to meet ladies? Only there 3 days so OK calling somebody as well.
Thanks.
I used Badoo and tinder, more matches for me on badoo but tinder had better matches. I got a few numbers onto WhatsApp but I just spent my time with a girl from Zimbabwe that I met from tinder on my second day, didn't pay her just was covering drinks and food when we met, did some touristy stuff together also.
I did go long street one night, Dubliner seems to the most obvious place but wasn't busy, spotted 3 girls in there around midnight, I would guess not south african. The girl I was with has a European friend living out here who has been drugged twice by girls on long street so do be careful.
I went to Camps bay with the Tinder girl to hang out one evening, sat in one restaurant / bar around sunset and there was 2 girls sat in there drinking I watched an old guy call one over and exchange numbers then left with both of them later on.
Fewer girls on ESA than jo'berg and only 1 really interested me. Called Amber, if you're after a huge ass I'd recommend. 700 rand for the hour, doesn't do BBBJ though.
If I came here just for mongering I'd be disappointed, but its a great place as a tourist.
If I came here just for mongering I'd be disappointed, but its a great place as a tourist.Yea I heard CT ain't really the place in SA for P4 P. Jo'Burg all day long.
KolkataRoy
11-21-19, 12:32
Hello,
Self shall be in Johannesburg for a night in December and looking for a hotel with "fun" spa inside or nearby. Hotel location have to be nearby the Airport for easy shuttling.
Thanks in advance. I can help with Turkey contacts.
My PM is also active.
If I came here just for mongering I'd be disappointed, but its a great place as a tourist.There used to be a few clubs on Long Street and one in the Financial district on the top of a business building. My buddy went to Singa massage on Long for "body work". I did see an ad for the club on Massage republic. Used to be you could use sex trader. Za to find club listings. Sorry it's been 2 years since I was last there but I did check that Singha is still advertising. It's not full service except with the "YMMV" on individual girls once they know you.
KolkataRoy
11-27-19, 06:11
Hello,
Self shall be in Johannesburg for a night in December and looking for a hotel with "fun" spa inside or nearby. Hotel location have to be nearby the Airport for easy shuttling.
Thanks in advance. I can help with Turkey contacts.
My PM is also active.Looks like a dead scene! Pity!
Hello,
Self shall be in Johannesburg for a night in December and looking for a hotel with "fun" spa inside or nearby. Hotel location have to be nearby the Airport for easy shuttling.
Thanks in advance. I can help with Turkey contacts.
My PM is also active.Not sure about spas but for one night, best thing would be to check out ESA or Sextrader. Read through the forum as those sites are extensively talked about. Find a chick you like and try to set up an outcall.
This will be my first time in Africa, especially in The Cradle of Humankind.
I have done my research here, thanks to all the members who contributed and a big shoutout to Zakmo for a detailed guide.
Planning to stay at an ABB in Braamfontein and make the best out of this weekend. I am interested in the Semi-pro's / regular girls. I will also check out the clubs.
I will be in Jo'burg Dec 6-8. Any one here is going to be around?
This will be my first time in Africa, especially in The Cradle of Humankind.
I have done my research here, thanks to all the members who contributed and a big shoutout to Zakmo for a detailed guide.
Planning to stay at an ABB in Braamfontein and make the best out of this weekend. I am interested in the Semi-pro's / regular girls. I will also check out the clubs.
I will be in Jo'burg Dec 6-8. Any one here is going to be around?Hey man, enjoy yourself. Do drop a report when you get back.
My Man! Once you said Boosy Zar I knew you were a like minded brother like me SA is "The spot" for thick women shaped like Cherokee d'Ass, Ms. Cleo (you know where I'm going with this LOL). Funny thing is I'm planning a trip to Sosua in a few months as well and I've been doing my research.
Anyway, I was was in SA about this time last year so my knowledge is still fresh. This will be a long post but I want to make sure I point you in the right direction. You're going to have a great time if thick, big booty women is your preference. I'm even planning a trip next year to hit some spots I didn't get a chance to last time LOL. I'll break down my advice into sections for you to reference.
1. Where to Stay.
2. SA Talent.
3. General Tips.
1. Where to stay. I can only really speak to Jo'Burg as that's where I stayed for my trip. I suggest staying in Rosebank or Sandton City. It's the more upmarket part of Jo'Burg and is good for semi-pros (more on that later). I stayed in Downtown in a hip area of town which was good, but was a tad removed from some of the action. If you can, I suggest getting a vacation rental or ABB. A hotel will suffice as well, but sometimes it's nice to bypass the concierge desk. I can't really speak to Cape Town though. I'll add this, Pretoria is like a 40 min drive or 20 min train ride from Jo'Burg. While I don't recommend staying there, there are some clubs there that might be worth a visit and some day game potential.
2. SA talent. Ok, for SA (again, Jo'Burg and Pretoria) the mongering game is quite varied so you can choose your niche.
-Semi-pro's / regular girls (day game).
-Online sites.
-Strip clubs.
-Streetwalkers.
-Club Girls.
Ok, (semi-pros and regular girls). While there, I noticed there were a fair number of young college aged girls that weren't pros, but would definitely drop their panties for a dude with some $ to spend on them (go out for drinks, go grab food etc). From your posts you seem on the younger side so this should still be applicable. Spots to check out are Rosebank Mall, Sandton Center and Maboneng Precinct (on Saturday and Sunday afternoons). If you see a girl you're interested in. Be direct, chat her up and offer to meet for drinks later. I nailed one girl in this manner. It's nice for variety. Another area with a lot of chicks like that is 'Braamfontein' aka 'Braam', it's a college town of sorts and you'll see some uni chicks at 'Neigbor.
(Online sites). This is probably where you'll do the most damage, I know this is where I did mine as well. The 2 sites I can vouch for are ESA and Redvelvet. Search "Escorts South Africa" and "redvelvet escort SA" in Google and you see them both listed as the first links. ESA is a provider pay site, meaning the girls have to pay to post each month. If they don't pay, their ads are removed. The best way to use ESA is to pay for VIP membership (like 10 usd for a month or so) about 2-3 weeks before you leave for SA. Scout the girls you're interested in and take a screenshot of their pics.
You want to ensure you know what they look like incase their profiles disappear because of non-payment. With ESA you can easily rack up 20-30 girls between Jo'Burg and Pretoria. In terms of prices, I remember having this crazy Cherokee the'Ass type lady for about 500 ZAR for the hour (35 USD). Most ST (1 HR) encounters should be about 35 - 50 USD so abut 500 - 700 ZAR for an incall. This is mainly for black women. You can probably +/- 200 ZAR in either direction depending on the woman. I never did an overnight or longtime, but that Cherokee lady I was talking about, she quoted me 1,500 ZAR so about 100 USD. Redvelvet is pretty similar to ESA. I just prefer ESA's layout because you can search by specific region e. G. Sandton, Rosebank, Hyde Park etc. Very useful to know as Jo'Burg is quite spread out and isn't as centralized as Sosua. There are some other sites but you really will be good with those two.
(Strip clubs) The main one I'd suggest is "Royal Park Hotel" in Jo'Burg. There's another one as well but I haven't been. Royal Park has some thick ass women. Only slight downside is it's location. It's close to a rough part of town although the inside is safe and secure. Uber drivers will always drop you a block down and ask you to walk there because of issues they have with the taxi drivers out there. My advice is take an uber there and take a taxi back. Yes, the taxi will overcharge you, but at least you'll be in the clear. Ok, Royal Park itself is a very very nice strip club with rooms the ladies rent above the club. Obviously the best nights to go are the weekends but any night will be pretty good. Best way to play this is to find a stripper you like, bring her back into your corner and negotiate from there. You can either go up to her room or get her number and try to meet up with her later. I would choose the latter. Anyway, when I was there, there were some crazy thick women. I didn't get any numbers because I was with a regular chick that I picked up a couple days before. Rookie mistake on my part. This is one of the reasons I have to go back a 2nd time. Right my wrongs LOL. Summit Club is the other strip club.
(Streetwalkers) Don't really know too much about these, but I do know they're there on some certain streets. I'd honestly just avoid (I also didn't have a car).
(Club Girls) Last place for P4P is in clubs. Not every girl in a club is working, but it's easy to spot out the ones that are. Check out NewsCafe in Rosebank and Sandton. Blue Room Central and Hangar Club in Pretoria as well.
In summary, I think you should look to online sites first and then see what's on ground at the clubs and those malls as well. Pretoria has some more gems, but I didn't have the chance to explore it like I wanted. A lot of thick women there as well.
General tips.
-This one is a no brainier but strap up. SA is not the country to get lost in the sauce.
-Bring a lot of uber money. Jo'Burg is very spread out so you have to be cognizant of that. You also don't want the liability of a rental car.
-Jo'Burg is a very cosmopolitan city, and I've heard even thicker women are located in the smaller towns. However, Jo'Burg will be more than enough for what you need.
-Check out Carlton Centre. It's a shopping mall to do some ground day game.
-Many girls online will prefer to do incalls than outcalls, or if they do an outcall, they'll want to meet someplace public first.
-All the girls I saw for incalls were all at these guest house type places.
-SA isn't point and click like Sosua, but I think the scene is very robust if you know where to look.
-Have fun and report back. Feel free to send me a pri message if you have more questions.This is a very nice breakdown.
I know I'm late to the party but I'm on my way to Cape Town for the New Years (first visit to the motherland) and I've been sparcing through this forum over the last week looking for relevant Cape Town info, looks like I picked the wrong city this time. Is there a similar breakdown of Cape Town? If not, no worries. I'll have to play it by ear.
This is a very nice breakdown.
I know I'm late to the party but I'm on my way to Cape Town for the New Years (first visit to the motherland) and I've been sparcing through this forum over the last week looking for relevant Cape Town info, looks like I picked the wrong city this time. Is there a similar breakdown of Cape Town? If not, no worries. I'll have to play it by ear.Saldy, don't know too much about CT. Best bet would be ESA and trying to checkout some clubs. Wikisxguide may have some info as well.
Saldy, don't know too much about CT. Best bet would be ESA and trying to checkout some clubs. Wikisxguide may have some info as well.Thanks buddy.
I have been 1 month in Kampala, Uganda.
Is Johannesburg worth a trip also? Is the barrel leaking with fish like Kampala, or is it more conservative?
I have been 1 month in Kampala, Uganda.
Is Johannesburg worth a trip also? Is the barrel leaking with fish like Kampala, or is it more conservative?SA HIV Rate 18.9% plus violent Gun crime everywhere you go.
UG HIV Rate 6. 5%.
I'll never go to SA.
Why should I pay more than 10 bucks to get laid.
Neddy.
Don't let someone deter you from going to South Africa. I 've been their four times in the past year and have not witnessed any crime. Don't get me wrong, crime is every where (in any city or country). Common sense and street smarts. I will tell you go there and inform your own opinion. South Africa has history (soweto, aparthied museum, Hector Pieterson memorial, etc) if you are into that. And of course, they have beautiful women. Thick, petite, in between and lovely butts. You can't go wrong and they love to party.
I have been 1 month in Kampala, Uganda.
Is Johannesburg worth a trip also? Is the barrel leaking with fish like Kampala, or is it more conservative?
Hello,
I've been many times in JHB, but I do always come back to see one girl. She is amazing. Found her on www.paradiseescorts.co.za.
Her name is Kimberly. Man. She is very tall like hell and got nipples to die for.
Regards.
Ray.
I'll be in Cape Town and Johannesburg in a few months, and I've read a lot of reports about fun times in both cities. However, I'm very concerned about the high HIV rate in South Africa. I'm thinking of going and only allowing hand jobs and covered blow jobs (probably with two or three girls at the same time). So, no vaginal or anal sex and no FIV.
Given that strategy, would the most bang for the buck be strip clubs or massage parlors?
I'll be in Cape Town and Johannesburg in a few months, and I've read a lot of reports about fun times in both cities. However, I'm very concerned about the high HIV rate in South Africa. I'm thinking of going and only allowing hand jobs and covered blow jobs (probably with two or three girls at the same time). So, no vaginal or anal sex and no FIV.
Given that strategy, would the most bang for the buck be strip clubs or massage parlors?I understand the concern of HIV, but I think a better solution would be to have a girl get tested before you guys plan on meeting. Also, condoms will do you well. If you use them properly then you're really good to go. I went, saw about 9 women in a week, strapped up and came back clean.
Hell, if you really want to be certain. You can take PreP before going down. Regardless, if you're going to go through these precautions, it might even be better to skip the trip all together.
But to answer your question: Not sure on massage parlours. There's a site called ESA that's been referenced here. Check there for listings. For strip clubs, I can only speak to Royal park in Jozi. In a bit of a rough area (especially if you're white) but the ladies there are really thick. Big asses and the like.
Hope that helps.
I understand the concern of HIV, but I think a better solution would be to have a girl get tested before you guys plan on meeting. Also, condoms will do you well. If you use them properly then you're really good to go. I went, saw about 9 women in a week, strapped up and came back clean.
Hell, if you really want to be certain. You can take PreP before going down. Regardless, if you're going to go through these precautions, it might even be better to skip the trip all together.
But to answer your question: Not sure on massage parlours. There's a site called ESA that's been referenced here. Check there for listings. For strip clubs, I can only speak to Royal park in Jozi. In a bit of a rough area (especially if you're white) but the ladies there are really thick. Big asses and the like.
Hope that helps.Thanks, Zakmo. Since HIV is a binary outcome, it's simply not worth the risk for me. I'll be perfectly happy having those thick big booty ladies you mentioned orally please me while I rub on their asses and squeeze their juicy titties.
I'm thinking of starting with strip clubs since they're probably a more target rich environment than massage parlours.
Thanks, Zakmo. Since HIV is a binary outcome, it's simply not worth the risk for me. I'll be perfectly happy having those thick big booty ladies you mentioned orally please me while I rub on their asses and squeeze their juicy titties.
I'm thinking of starting with strip clubs since they're probably a more target rich environment than massage parlours.That's a good idea. I'm not to clued in on the strip clubs. Another thing is to also try the semi-pro angle to mitigate risk. Even better, have a chick take one of those at home tests before proceeding. The semi-pro angle might take a little longer, but you can clear up your doubts. SA women are very, very heavy bottomed. Would be nice to try it I imagine.
Has anyone stayed in Pretoria recently and know if hotels there are girl friendly? I usually stay at Marriott hotels and there are quite a few in town, but don't want to have hassles with bringing a girl guest back to the room with me, especially in the evening.
I'll be in South Africa in a few months, and I have extensively read this forum to come up with a plan. As I stated earlier, I'm avoiding full house service and going on a quest to get my covered dick sucked by the finest multi-ethnic women I can find.
General
I'm coming from the United States of America so I'll need to exchange dollars for the local currency. I plan to half about half of what I need in cash and the other half I'll withdraw from FNB Bank ATMS (which I understand to not charge fees).
I'll be there in April so I assume the weather will be warm. I plan to dress in jeans while I'm there to not draw undo attention to myself.
Cape Town
I'll be there from Monday to Wednesday afternoon. I intend to do some sightseeing so most of my mongering will be in the afternoon or early evening.
I'm staying at the Century City Hotel (3 Energy Land). I might rent a cheap car or just use Taxify to get around.
Here are the Strip Clubs I'll visit (in descending order of quality based on reports in this forum):
* Naughty40.
* The Embassy.
* L'Elegance.
* Zendalee.
I could only find reviews on this forum of one massage parlour that seems worth visiting: Singa Massage.
Johannesburg
I'll be in Johannesburg from Wednesday evening to Friday morning. I don't plan to do much sightseeing so, if I have any more nuts left to bust from Cape Town, I'll have more time to bust 'them.
I'm staying at the Premier Hotel Midrand (187 3rd Road). Since Johannesburg is bigger and more spread out then Cape Town, I'll probably rent a cheap car.
Here are the Strip Clubs I'll visit (in descending order of quality based on reports in this forum):
* Royal Park Hotel.
* The Grand.
* The Summit.
* Teasers (Praetoria).
This forum had more reviews of massage parlours in Johannesburg than in Cape Town so here's the list of the ones I'll check out:
* Elysium.
* Heaven on Earth.
* TLC House.
* Pam's Place.
* Pattaya Thai Massage, Sandton.
What are the thoughts about this plan? I'm hoping to average R400 per encounter since I plan to do 30 minute sessions with no FH. Also, what are the best places to eat in both cities? I plan to fuck a lot, but a brother got to eat, too. I've heard amazing things about South African barbecue.
I'll be in South Africa in a few months, and I have extensively read this forum to come up with a plan. As I stated earlier, I'm avoiding full house service and going on a quest to get my covered dick sucked by the finest multi-ethnic women I can find....I think your plan is pretty solid. Covered the bases and since you're not going for FH you should be good with 400 ZAR per encounter. Per food, check out Sandton Mall for some good steaks.
I think your plan is pretty solid. Covered the bases and since you're not going for FH you should be good with 400 ZAR per encounter. Per food, check out Sandton Mall for some good steaks.Thanks, Zakmo! I'll check out Sandton Mall and taste some of those steaks.
Thanks, Zakmo! I'll check out Sandton Mall and taste some of those steaks.For some good SA Braai (SA Barbeque). There's this place called "Imbizo Shisanyama" in Midrand. I heard a lot of good things about it.
Per Sandton, I can attest to "The Grillhouse". On the pricey side (relative to SA) but very good service and great steaks.
Lover Africa
02-12-20, 09:20
Had this lady twice for a quicky during the day, nice GFE experience.
http://www.***********/escorts/viewEscort.php?city=Johannesburg&name=Barnie&uid=76047&sp=0&arp=1
Hi,
I'm new here I'm planning my first trip to Africa and I have my choices narrowed down to Johannesburg or Nairobi well being that this is the South Africa thread can any body tell me if tinder and all the other online sites is popular out there and I'm also looking for the big booty chicks I'm a black guy and I'm not into the skinny chicks any advice I'm all ears.
Hi,
I'm new here I'm planning my first trip to Africa and I have my choices narrowed down to Johannesburg or Nairobi well being that this is the South Africa thread can any body tell me if tinder and all the other online sites is popular out there and I'm also looking for the big booty chicks I'm a black guy and I'm not into the skinny chicks any advice I'm all ears.ESA and Redvelvet have been mentioned here extensively. Those are good sites. Read the forum and you'll see more info. Or upgrade your membership and I can pm you some info.
It's been years since I did the tour in Joburg for sex, but I have been back for business recently. Driving around Joburg-itself- is not for the faint of heart. Not something you want to do in the urban inside of the city. Mid rand, and outside fine, but inner parts NO. And while I haven't been inside Summit Club in years, (and I have seen the rooms) I would think you would find better times anywhere else unless you like the thrill of living on a bit of the edge or things have changed?! (Always possible) On the website it still says, We escort you to and from parking to the club! I also did not do a check on Teasers locations but there used to be 2 or 3 in Joburg. Praetoria is a way away! Teasers has a location in Rivonia. Which is near Sandton.
I'll be in South Africa in a few months, and I have extensively read this forum to come up with a plan. As I stated earlier, I'm avoiding full house service and going on a quest to get my covered dick sucked by the finest multi-ethnic women I can find.
General
I'm coming from the United States of America so I'll need to exchange dollars for the local currency. I plan to half about half of what I need in cash and the other half I'll withdraw from FNB Bank ATMS (which I understand to not charge fees).
I'll be there in April so I assume the weather will be warm. I plan to dress in jeans while I'm there to not draw undo attention to myself.
Cape Town
I'll be there from Monday to Wednesday afternoon. I intend to do some sightseeing so most of my mongering will be in the afternoon or early evening.
I'm staying at the Century City Hotel (3 Energy Land). I might rent a cheap car or just use Taxify to get around.
Here are the Strip Clubs I'll visit (in descending order of quality based on reports in this forum):
* Naughty40.
* The Embassy.
* L'Elegance.
* Zendalee.
I could only find reviews on this forum of one massage parlour that seems worth visiting: Singa Massage.
Johannesburg
I'll be in Johannesburg from Wednesday evening to Friday morning. I don't plan to do much sightseeing so, if I have any more nuts left to bust from Cape Town, I'll have more time to bust 'them.
I'm staying at the Premier Hotel Midrand (187 3rd Road). Since Johannesburg is bigger and more spread out then Cape Town, I'll probably rent a cheap car.
Here are the Strip Clubs I'll visit (in descending order of quality based on reports in this forum):
* Royal Park Hotel.
* The Grand.
* The Summit.
* Teasers (Praetoria).
This forum had more reviews of massage parlours in Johannesburg than in Cape Town so here's the list of the ones I'll check out:
* Elysium.
* Heaven on Earth.
* TLC House.
* Pam's Place.
* Pattaya Thai Massage, Sandton.
What are the thoughts about this plan? I'm hoping to average R400 per encounter since I plan to do 30 minute sessions with no FH. Also, what are the best places to eat in both cities? I plan to fuck a lot, but a brother got to eat, too. I've heard amazing things about South African barbecue.
It's been years since I did the tour in Joburg for sex, but I have been back for business recently. Driving around Joburg-itself- is not for the faint of heart. Not something you want to do in the urban inside of the city. Mid rand, and outside fine, but inner parts NO. And while I haven't been inside Summit Club in years, (and I have seen the rooms) I would think you would find better times anywhere else unless you like the thrill of living on a bit of the edge or things have changed?! (Always possible) On the website it still says, We escort you to and from parking to the club! I also did not do a check on Teasers locations but there used to be 2 or 3 in Joburg. Praetoria is a way away! Teasers has a location in Rivonia. Which is near Sandton.Thanks, Tintin, I've read a bit more on Joburg, and I may stick to mongering in Cape Town while I'm in South Africa. Unless there are places in Midrand where my hotel is located, it's probably not safe enough for me to risk venturing out.
Thanks, Tintin, I've read a bit more on Joburg, and I may stick to mongering in Cape Town while I'm in South Africa. Unless there are places in Midrand where my hotel is located, it's probably not safe enough for me to risk venturing out.I have been to South Africa four times in two years. All in Johannesburg and Cape Town. Johannesburg is a great place to party and for tourism. The women are friendly and approachable. If a person can't apply common sense and have street smarts, maybe it's not for them. That would apply to any place in the world.
I have been to South Africa four times in two years. All in Johannesburg and Cape Town. Johannesburg is a great place to party and for tourism. The women are friendly and approachable. If a person can't apply common sense and have street smarts, maybe it's not for them. That would apply to any place in the world.Thanks for the perspective, Confiable! I may try my luck during the daytime hours in Joburg.
So, finally registered after reading quite a lot on this forum.
I will be going to SA (cape town) soon and contacted a few girls from redvelvet or locanto. Rates between 400 and 1500 for an hour are quite common. But what surprised me most, is that 80% of all girls asked me to "book in advance" and pay up front (via online payment / sms payment / paypal whatever).
Tried arguing a few times but most of them do not accept cash on arrival. Only very, very few do!
Of course my initial reaction is that this is a scam. Or is it typical for SA?
I have been to South Africa four times in two years. All in Johannesburg and Cape Town. Johannesburg is a great place to party and for tourism. The women are friendly and approachable. If a person can't apply common sense and have street smarts, maybe it's not for them. That would apply to any place in the world.My comment was not to skip Joburg just to be more careful in some of the areas, and skip some entirely esp if you are driving a rental car and not sure where you are going. I've worked in Joburg for extended periods and hobbied both there and CT.
Actually in CT found it easy as an American to pick up civilians.
Tried arguing a few times but most of them do not accept cash on arrival. Only very, very few do!
Of course my initial reaction is that this is a scam. Or is it typical for SA?First time to read of this. Common sense not to pay in this manner. When you arrive in SA it is very easy to find girls and you will find cheaper and be prepared to negotiate don't just grab and sucumb to the first girls you come across, be patient, find what pleases you.
My comment was not to skip Joburg just to be more careful in some of the areas, and skip some entirely esp if you are driving a rental car and not sure where you are going. I've worked in Joburg for extended periods and hobbied both there and CT.
Actually in CT found it easy as an American to pick up civilians.I am with you on the driving part. I wouldn't do it. Everything is to spread out.
So I've seen a few girls hanging around across the road from Kamill coffee on greenmarket square, does anyone have any experience / insights?
So, finally registered after reading quite a lot on this forum.
I will be going to SA (cape town) soon and contacted a few girls from redvelvet or locanto. Rates between 400 and 1500 for an hour are quite common. But what surprised me most, is that 80% of all girls asked me to "book in advance" and pay up front (via online payment / sms payment / paypal whatever).
Tried arguing a few times but most of them do not accept cash on arrival. Only very, very few do!
Of course my initial reaction is that this is a scam. Or is it typical for SA?Used esa co za site. You pay before service. Prepayment are scam.
My sources say things are picking back up. This year was a bit of a curve ball but it seems by end of the year things should have normalized.
My sources say things are picking back up. This year was a bit of a curve ball but it seems by end of the year things should have normalized.Zakmo, I just talked with a female friend in Joburg. She stated there will be no tourist until 2021. I can't see it but if it's true. I will be dissapointed.
Zakmo, I just talked with a female friend in Joburg. She stated there will be no tourist until 2021. I can't see it but if it's true. I will be dissapointed.It will be disappointing but December 2020 vs Feb / Mar 2021 won't be too much of a wait. I've actually read elsewhere that the government is looking to fast track it's international travel plans.
If covid is quiet over summer things could change quickly.
I got some good advice from someone on the forum. It was a business mainly trip so didn't have time to fish for civilians. That said girls are friendly to foreigners not all the local guys like this but girls are very upfront about your chances for play. However I would advise condoms if you don't have all the necessary tests sorted. It is possible to get the tests sorted at a local clinic but condoms are cheaper. The best part is civilians are more open generally than they are with locals. But make sure your third eye is watching where all your stuff is and careful about accepting any drinks around them.
Overall SA has enough for someone until Addis and Mombasa open back up. Mombasa again you have civilian options if you fish around. Addis there are some but most are desperate to get out of Ethiopia but that is the case across the continent.
Lover Africa
09-18-20, 08:56
South Africa is opening the borders on 1 October.
What are the chances to score in daytime in shopping malls or on the street?
In comparison with countries as Kenya and Uganda?
South Africa is opening the borders on 1 October.Cannot wait.
And the girls at this party all will have big asses I'm upset. Oh well.
What's up brothers long time monger here about to travel to South Africa for the first time. I usually go to Sosua but a friend of mine encouraged me to come to South Africa because I love big ole monster booties LOL he said I would be in heaven there. I'm heading there in October so I'm doing my research now. Ant advice is much appreciated. First time there so I don't know anything about there and my friend only went once when he was younger. Where to stay what are the do's and don't's what's the average price so I don't ruin the game for everyone like they doing in Sosua LOL. And most importantly where do I find the mega butt women LOL I'm talking about like a chick I seen named Boosy zar from Africa I want those types.Booty Zar Booty is the prototype but Segos got next! Kenyan girls are way thicker than Ghana goes, although there's ass everywhere in Africa but as a chubby chaser, SA is our mecca. It's either TZ or SA at this point. I want to let SA "stretch" it's arms out before buying the ticket. It might be my last spot before going back to the US.
Booty Zar Booty is the prototype but Segos got next! Kenyan girls are way thicker than Ghana goes, although there's ass everywhere in Africa but as a chubby chaser, SA is our mecca. It's either TZ or SA at this point. I want to let SA "stretch" it's arms out before buying the ticket. It might be my last spot before going back to the US.Hey man, looking forward to your report when you get to SA. Especially for us BBW / thick lovers.
Member #2621
03-03-21, 19:53
Now that SA is back to level 1, any reports out there? Where's all the action, any unique COVID protocols with the girls?
We've always taken precautions and used a rubber, guess we'll have to get use to a rubber and a mask.
Now that SA is back to level 1, any reports out there? Where's all the action, any unique COVID protocols with the girls?
We've always taken precautions and used a rubber, guess we'll have to get use to a rubber and a mask.My recent visit was as normal as pre-COVID. Of course the protocols need to be respected before travel: COVID 19 PCR negative and the screening form duly completed. Actually the local opinion is that the COVID 19 is getting closer to its end. People are trying to get back to business as usual.
Girls I met are positive in a sense that they make sure you bear the face mask and if you do not feel comfortable, she can also put it on.
Then the sessions will be the same as usual.
Hey guys, welcome back to South Africa, where all types of mongering are permissible.
I have visited Cape Town and Jozzie the last two weeks.
Hi,
I am going to CT on Thursday for a week. I read a lot in this forum about how mongering in CT works. What I did not find was anything about Street sex workers and where to find them. I found only little Information on the internet about where to find hookers in the streets. So I plan to check what I can find in Belgravia Rd and Main Rd. (Kenilworth / Wynberg).
I read a lot about finding open minded girls in malls in Jo'burg. What about Cape Town?
I am open for any recommendations.
I will have a car and a house there, so I am curious what will happen.
Can anybody with boots to the ground or has had boots to the ground since joberg opened back up can tell me if this is still good info. I couldn't make the trip I initially had planned due to covid but it seems everything is good to go so I'll be going in October. Still looking for the super mega booties and still curious to see if joberg is the paradise I heard when it comes to this LOL. Any info is appreciated.
My Man! Once you said Boosy Zar I knew you were a like minded brother like me SA is "The spot" for thick women shaped like Cherokee d'Ass, Ms. Cleo (you know where I'm going with this LOL). Funny thing is I'm planning a trip to Sosua in a few months as well and I've been doing my research.
Anyway, I was was in SA about this time last year so my knowledge is still fresh. This will be a long post but I want to make sure I point you in the right direction. You're going to have a great time if thick, big booty women is your preference. I'm even planning a trip next year to hit some spots I didn't get a chance to last time LOL. I'll break down my advice into sections for you to reference.
1. Where to Stay.
2. SA Talent.
3. General Tips.
1. Where to stay. I can only really speak to Jo'Burg as that's where I stayed for my trip. I suggest staying in Rosebank or Sandton City. It's the more upmarket part of Jo'Burg and is good for semi-pros (more on that later). I stayed in Downtown in a hip area of town which was good, but was a tad removed from some of the action. If you can, I suggest getting a vacation rental or ABB. A hotel will suffice as well, but sometimes it's nice to bypass the concierge desk. I can't really speak to Cape Town though. I'll add this, Pretoria is like a 40 min drive or 20 min train ride from Jo'Burg. While I don't recommend staying there, there are some clubs there that might be worth a visit and some day game potential.
2. SA talent. Ok, for SA (again, Jo'Burg and Pretoria) the mongering game is quite varied so you can choose your niche.
-Semi-pro's / regular girls (day game).
-Online sites.
-Strip clubs.
-Streetwalkers.
-Club Girls.
Ok, (semi-pros and regular girls). While there, I noticed there were a fair number of young college aged girls that weren't pros, but would definitely drop their panties for a dude with some $ to spend on them (go out for drinks, go grab food etc). From your posts you seem on the younger side so this should still be applicable. Spots to check out are Rosebank Mall, Sandton Center and Maboneng Precinct (on Saturday and Sunday afternoons). If you see a girl you're interested in. Be direct, chat her up and offer to meet for drinks later. I nailed one girl in this manner. It's nice for variety. Another area with a lot of chicks like that is 'Braamfontein' aka 'Braam', it's a college town of sorts and you'll see some uni chicks at 'Neigbor.
(Online sites). This is probably where you'll do the most damage, I know this is where I did mine as well. The 2 sites I can vouch for are ESA and Redvelvet. Search "Escorts South Africa" and "redvelvet escort SA" in Google and you see them both listed as the first links. ESA is a provider pay site, meaning the girls have to pay to post each month. If they don't pay, their ads are removed. The best way to use ESA is to pay for VIP membership (like 10 usd for a month or so) about 2-3 weeks before you leave for SA. Scout the girls you're interested in and take a screenshot of their pics.
You want to ensure you know what they look like incase their profiles disappear because of non-payment. With ESA you can easily rack up 20-30 girls between Jo'Burg and Pretoria. In terms of prices, I remember having this crazy Cherokee the'Ass type lady for about 500 ZAR for the hour (35 USD). Most ST (1 HR) encounters should be about 35 - 50 USD so abut 500 - 700 ZAR for an incall. This is mainly for black women. You can probably +/- 200 ZAR in either direction depending on the woman. I never did an overnight or longtime, but that Cherokee lady I was talking about, she quoted me 1,500 ZAR so about 100 USD. Redvelvet is pretty similar to ESA. I just prefer ESA's layout because you can search by specific region e. G. Sandton, Rosebank, Hyde Park etc. Very useful to know as Jo'Burg is quite spread out and isn't as centralized as Sosua. There are some other sites but you really will be good with those two.
(Strip clubs) The main one I'd suggest is "Royal Park Hotel" in Jo'Burg. There's another one as well but I haven't been. Royal Park has some thick ass women. Only slight downside is it's location. It's close to a rough part of town although the inside is safe and secure. Uber drivers will always drop you a block down and ask you to walk there because of issues they have with the taxi drivers out there. My advice is take an uber there and take a taxi back. Yes, the taxi will overcharge you, but at least you'll be in the clear. Ok, Royal Park itself is a very very nice strip club with rooms the ladies rent above the club. Obviously the best nights to go are the weekends but any night will be pretty good. Best way to play this is to find a stripper you like, bring her back into your corner and negotiate from there. You can either go up to her room or get her number and try to meet up with her later. I would choose the latter. Anyway, when I was there, there were some crazy thick women. I didn't get any numbers because I was with a regular chick that I picked up a couple days before. Rookie mistake on my part. This is one of the reasons I have to go back a 2nd time. Right my wrongs LOL. Summit Club is the other strip club.
(Streetwalkers) Don't really know too much about these, but I do know they're there on some certain streets. I'd honestly just avoid (I also didn't have a car).
(Club Girls) Last place for P4P is in clubs. Not every girl in a club is working, but it's easy to spot out the ones that are. Check out NewsCafe in Rosebank and Sandton. Blue Room Central and Hangar Club in Pretoria as well.
In summary, I think you should look to online sites first and then see what's on ground at the clubs and those malls as well. Pretoria has some more gems, but I didn't have the chance to explore it like I wanted. A lot of thick women there as well.
General tips.
-This one is a no brainier but strap up. SA is not the country to get lost in the sauce.
-Bring a lot of uber money. Jo'Burg is very spread out so you have to be cognizant of that. You also don't want the liability of a rental car.
-Jo'Burg is a very cosmopolitan city, and I've heard even thicker women are located in the smaller towns. However, Jo'Burg will be more than enough for what you need.
-Check out Carlton Centre. It's a shopping mall to do some ground day game.
-Many girls online will prefer to do incalls than outcalls, or if they do an outcall, they'll want to meet someplace public first.
-All the girls I saw for incalls were all at these guest house type places.
-SA isn't point and click like Sosua, but I think the scene is very robust if you know where to look.
-Have fun and report back. Feel free to send me a pri message if you have more questions.
Hi,
I am going to CT on Thursday for a week. I read a lot in this forum about how mongering in CT works. What I did not find was anything about Street sex workers and where to find them. I found only little Information on the internet about where to find hookers in the streets. So I plan to check what I can find in Belgravia Rd and Main Rd. (Kenilworth / Wynberg).
I read a lot about finding open minded girls in malls in Jo'burg. What about Cape Town?
I am open for any recommendations.
I will have a car and a house there, so I am curious what will happen.Gents enquiring about street walkers in CT or Joburg. I lived in RSA for 11 years and left the place in 2004. I would strongly suggest to stay away from street walkers scene. The crime in country is bad. I lived the country but I had a gun pointed at me and once mugged on the street. Unless you are that adventurous I would stick to mongering online sites, clubs and malls. Stay away from streets specially after hours.
If you are going to Joburg try to avoid the city centre. It's not same as any other place in the world. The other report takes about Summit Club and Royal Club. It will be safe inside. But don't venture outside in the street. It's best to take advice from locals or the hotel staff where you could walk around. Also if you have to walk leave valuables in your hotel room. Don't take all the cards with you. Stay safe and you will enjoy the country. It's a beautiful place with lots of site seeing including game reserves. Cape Town has beautiful beaches.
Gents enquiring about street walkers in CT or Joburg. I lived in RSA for 11 years and left the place in 2004. I would strongly suggest to stay away from street walkers scene. The crime in country is bad. I lived the country but I had a gun pointed at me and once mugged on the street. Unless you are that adventurous I would stick to mongering online sites, clubs and malls. Stay away from streets specially after hours.
If you are going to Joburg try to avoid the city centre. It's not same as any other place in the world. The other report takes about Summit Club and Royal Club. It will be safe inside. But don't venture outside in the street. It's best to take advice from locals or the hotel staff where you could walk around. Also if you have to walk leave valuables in your hotel room. Don't take all the cards with you. Stay safe and you will enjoy the country. It's a beautiful place with lots of site seeing including game reserves. Cape Town has beautiful beaches.He's right. In my experience with SA (Jo'Burg specifically), you'll get everything you need online, in clubs and at shopping malls. The street scene isn't worth it IMO. Only worth it just to "see" what it looks like.
Can anybody with boots to the ground or has had boots to the ground since joberg opened back up can tell me if this is still good info. I couldn't make the trip I initially had planned due to covid but it seems everything is good to go so I'll be going in October. Still looking for the super mega booties and still curious to see if joberg is the paradise I heard when it comes to this LOL. Any info is appreciated.Check your PM, I sent you a lot of info.
He's right. In my experience with SA (Jo'Burg specifically), you'll get everything you need online, in clubs and at shopping malls. The street scene isn't worth it IMO. Only worth it just to "see" what it looks like.
Check your PM, I sent you a lot of info.Thank you Zakmo!
When I was there in June I organized everything online. That worked great for me. I just watched some street girls and had a chat with them. I was not motivated to do business with them.
I will go back in November. I am interested in the mall thing you mentioned. Do you try to get into contact with regular girls (no sex workers) for dating or are there ladies (open for sexy working) who are interested in making business?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Thank you Zakmo!
I will go back in November. I am interested in the mall thing you mentioned. Do you try to get into contact with regular girls (no sex workers) for dating or are there ladies (open for sexy working) who are interested in making business?
Thanks in advance for your help!I had this kind of "process" I went through while there. During they day if I wasn't sightseeing, I'the walk around the malls just to relax and I'the talk to girls I found attractive. I'the invite them out to grab drinks, show them a good time and then tried to bring them back with me. Some obliged, some said no. If they said no and the night was still young, I'the go to a lounge and try to scout a semi-pro (think hotel bar girls etc). In Sandton, there are some bars / lounges that these girls would frequent. I say they're semi-pro in that although they may do 'sexy work' it's not a guaranteed and its not with everyone.
If all that failed, I'the just go online and get a nice looking lady.
With the regular chicks, I had two of them I saw repeatedly over the time I was there. I think the part of me being on holiday for a few days was cool to them in that I was kind of an "escape" from their day to day.
They'the show me around the city, we'the go to events and then in the evening went back to my place. Essentially attacking things from all angles more or less.
PM me if you got more questions.
I was this year in Johannesburg, there is more places to get lay.
One of the places are Massage saloons, but look first of there is erotic massage ore not. I choose the erotic massage Elysium Spa in Bryanston. With has good prices. And the girl offers extra treatment in the room like BJ without and even sex. Pay not more than 500 are for extra. BJ is 200 rand. The are girl who even working at home. I visited one more times for really good sex. I payed 800 rad for 2 hours. A lots of different girls. Take a place in the pool an just talk to them.
Another place is go to walk in the Montecarlo shopping casino square. The are girls who working and they approach you for having good time in hotel nearby, one of the I took to my own hotel, more safety, and payed 600 rand for 3 hours together.
Another place is the Sandton, the shopping square where is the Nelson Mandela stat. The are also outside girls working, which you can bring to your apartment or hotel for 500 Rand for 2 hours, girls are not models but oke for one time.
Finally took the long awaited trip to joberg and boy am I happy I did. Before I go on with the review huge shout out to Zakmo for all the advice and information he gave me before my trip. You made my trip way easier and I was able to move around like a vet despite being a newcomer. That's the whole purpose of this board and I'll be sure to pass on my knowledge to the next brother.
Anyway on to the trip. So I arrive on a Sunday for a week long stay. They didn't even check for my vaccination or a covid test. Catch a Uber to my hotel which was protea hotel. Suite room for 35 bucks a night can't beat it. I'll definitely be staying there again. First night I went to royal Park hotel and I knew when I walked in this was going to be a great week. 100 rand entry fee and thick beautiful women everywhere. I see one sitting down and I buy I jack and coke and send a drink to a lady with a amazing body. She comes over we chat and she ask do I want to go upstairs. I say how much she says 200 rand and we head up. Great session and I go back downstairs and see another one. She was a actual dancer so they don't have rooms but you can do your thing in the vip room. 300 Rand for her 100 for the house and we're on our way. I'm drained at this point so I head back home. Every single day I found myself either in royal Park or summit club (more on summit club in a minute). Second day I check out esa and found a lady with a insane body. She wants 500 Rand so I catch a Uber and she was staying at like a guest house. We do our thing I get her real number to link later then I head to the mall. Met a beautiful woman there got her digits and hung with her that night and morning if you get my drift LOL. Tuesday and Wednesday was a combination of me repeating this with a different chicks. Either esa or royal Park hotel. I had this one at royal Park who didn't have the Greatest attitude but got damn was she strapped. I mean she could put a young Cherokee to shame her body was so amazing. Nobody at royal Park charged more then 200 Rand which is about $15 bucks usd. Thursday was my first day at the summit club and man oh man that place was the holy grail of thick ass women. They were slightly more expensive with drinks and the women were 300 Rand or 400 for the one 10 I got but it's worth it. They have some crazy ass stage shows good music and like I said this place was the holy grail of ass. If your an ass man like me you will fall in love with south Africa. I plan on going back in a few months and I got contacts for all the chicks I want to smash again when I go back. Oh yeah I went to a massage house to. The women weren't top notch but the one I smashed I had an amazing conversation with go figure LOL. Safety is still a major concern so play it safe. When going to summit club or royal Park use a taxi. They charge more but it's the price of safety. The driver at the hotel was technically a taxi so I had him pick me and and drop me off most times. But they still came and checked him and made sure he wasn't Uber or it would have turned out bad. One guy had a baseball bat circling the car looking at me while the other guy was talking to the driver. He was calm and so was I. Guess they just had to confirm. They will literally kill a Uber driver if he comes to the territory. Anyways Uber is safe at other places like if I went to see a esa woman or a local I met at the mall I used Uber. I got a couple of pictures I managed to get that I'll upload once I get home. I'm still kind of in awe and amazement at how beautiful the women were and the cost. And the amazing thing is it won't get overrun by simps like in sosua because cats ain't flying way over there LOL. Any questions or if you want to know more hit me up. I love to share information.
Finally took the long awaited trip to joberg and boy am I happy I did. Before I go on with the review huge shout out to Zakmo for all the advice and information he gave me before my trip. You made my trip way easier and I was able to move around like a vet despite being a newcomer. That's the whole purpose of this board and I'll be sure to pass on my knowledge to the next brother. Glad I could help my bro.
Nobody at royal Park charged more then 200 Rand which is about $15 bucks usd. Thursday was my first day at the summit club and man oh man that place was the holy grail of thick ass women. They were slightly more expensive with drinks and the women were 300 Rand or 400 for the one 10 I got but it's worth it. They have some crazy ass stage shows good music and like I said this place was the holy grail of ass. If your an ass man like me you will fall in love with south Africa. I plan on going back in a few months and I got contacts for all the chicks I want to smash again when I go back. Yea man, at 1 USD - 15 ZAR, SA is really good value. Especially when you factor in the amenities, quality of ladies and the markets elsewhere.
Safety is still a major concern so play it safe. When going to summit club or royal Park use a taxi. They charge more but it's the price of safety. The driver at the hotel was technically a taxi so I had him pick me and and drop me off most times. This is a really good strategy actually. Get a personal car hire or cut a deal with a taxi driver on the low. Have them as your personal chauffeur to more challenging areas. Use Uber for regular things.
And the amazing thing is it won't get overrun by simps like in sosua because cats ain't flying way over there LOL. Any questions or if you want to know more hit me up. I love to share information.This. The African continent is intimidating for a lot of folks so you'll not see that kind of influx like DR, Colombia, Thailand etc. And this board is dominated by Europeans IIRC. They don't seem to like big booty women so they aren't going to be driving up prices.
MastermindF
11-07-21, 22:23
Hi guys,
I plan to spend 2 weeks in Cape town in January to play golf and have some nice time.
Does one of you have a good advice for a nice hotel not too expensive there. Not too far from long street (it seems to be the spot to have fun by night?
Thanks.
Finally took the long awaited trip to joberg and boy am I happy I did. Before I go on with the review huge shout out to Zakmo for all the advice and information he gave me before my trip. You made my trip way easier and I was able to move around like a vet despite being a newcomer. That's the whole purpose of this board and I'll be sure to pass on my knowledge to the next brother.
Anyway on to the trip. So I arrive on a Sunday for a week long stay. They didn't even check for my vaccination or a covid test. Catch a Uber to my hotel which was protea hotel. Suite room for 35 bucks a night can't beat it. I'll definitely be staying there again. First night I went to royal Park hotel and I knew when I walked in this was going to be a great week. 100 rand entry fee and thick beautiful women everywhere. I see one sitting down and I buy I jack and coke and send a drink to a lady with a amazing body. She comes over we chat and she ask do I want to go upstairs. I say how much she says 200 rand and we head up. Great session and I go back downstairs and see another one. She was a actual dancer so they don't have rooms but you can do your thing in the vip room. 300 Rand for her 100 for the house and we're on our way. I'm drained at this point so I head back home. Every single day I found myself either in royal Park or summit club (more on summit club in a minute). Second day I check out esa and found a lady with a insane body. She wants 500 Rand so I catch a Uber and she was staying at like a guest house. We do our thing I get her real number to link later then I head to the mall. Met a beautiful woman there got her digits and hung with her that night and morning if you get my drift LOL. Tuesday and Wednesday was a combination of me repeating this with a different chicks. Either esa or royal Park hotel. I had this one at royal Park who didn't have the Greatest attitude but got damn was she strapped. I mean she could put a young Cherokee to shame her body was so amazing. Nobody at royal Park charged more then 200 Rand which is about $15 bucks usd. Thursday was my first day at the summit club and man oh man that place was the holy grail of thick ass women. They were slightly more expensive with drinks and the women were 300 Rand or 400 for the one 10 I got but it's worth it. They have some crazy ass stage shows good music and like I said this place was the holy grail of ass. If your an ass man like me you will fall in love with south Africa. I plan on going back in a few months and I got contacts for all the chicks I want to smash again when I go back. Oh yeah I went to a massage house to. The women weren't top notch but the one I smashed I had an amazing conversation with go figure LOL. Safety is still a major concern so play it safe. When going to summit club or royal Park use a taxi. They charge more but it's the price of safety. The driver at the hotel was technically a taxi so I had him pick me and and drop me off most times. But they still came and checked him and made sure he wasn't Uber or it would have turned out bad. One guy had a baseball bat circling the car looking at me while the other guy was talking to the driver. He was calm and so was I..As part of a tourist trip to South Africa I went to both these establishments in the previous week. I am white by the way. At summit club you will be harassed as a white person, you are seen as a walking ATM and the girls will tell you lies about how much the taxi charge and up in the rooms they will try to make you pay extra for everything. There was not a single white person in there except me and for a good reason. There is bad ventilation and very loud and hot. Most of the girls have big asses that is correct but they are loose not fit all, gelly is the best way to describe it. Summit club is a brothel for low class people that has very low expectations.
Royal Park I liked more. The girls there makes no difference between white or black. The owner and many staff at Royal Park are white so that could explain it. Royal Park is much bigger then Summit club, ventilation his good and there are rooms where you can sit and relax without too much noise. Yes the girls will charge you 200 but is for a quick fuck 15-20 min. If you take longer they want more. The girls are friendly and trouble free from what I could tell. The rooms they take you too are sometimes very hot but they are quite roomy. There is good food to be had at the restaurant for decent price and drinks are cheap.
If you are white I recommend Royal Park and not Summit Club. My preference is though to skip both and use tinder to get girls to your Hotel Room. Much more relaxing and better experience.
I read that some of you guys that reported on these clubs had been to Rio de Janeiro and you liked these clubs more, that really got me questioning if I really should go to Rio or not like I planned? Because for my taste none of there clubs have many high quality girls. If you are only interested in a big ass and nothing else then I can see the appeal but otherwise not.
Otherwise I can recommend South Africa for those that like road trips.
As part of a tourist trip to South Africa I went to both these establishments in the previous week. I am white by the way. At summit club you will be harassed as a white person, you are seen as a walking ATM and the girls will tell you lies about how much the taxi charge and up in the rooms they will try to make you pay extra for everything. There was not a single white person in there except me and for a good reason. There is bad ventilation and very loud and hot. Most of the girls have big asses that is correct but they are loose not fit all, gelly is the best way to describe it. Summit club is a brothel for low class people that has very low expectations.
Royal Park I liked more. The girls there makes no difference between white or black. The owner and many staff at Royal Park are white so that could explain it. Royal Park is much bigger then Summit club, ventilation his good and there are rooms where you can sit and relax without too much noise. Yes the girls will charge you 200 but is for a quick fuck 15-20 min. If you take longer they want more. The girls are friendly and trouble free from what I could tell. The rooms they take you too are sometimes very hot but they are quite roomy. There is good food to be had at the restaurant for decent price and drinks are cheap.
If you are white I recommend Royal Park and not Summit Club. My preference is though to skip both and use tinder to get girls to your Hotel Room. Much more relaxing and better experience.
I read that some of you guys that reported on these clubs had been to Rio de Janeiro and you liked these clubs more, that really got me questioning if I really should go to Rio or not like I planned? Because for my taste none of there clubs have many high quality girls. If you are only interested in a big ass and nothing else then I can see the appeal but otherwise not.
Otherwise I can recommend South Africa for those that like road trips.There is no big difference between the two establishments. You have the same body types in both places. Girls with the same attitudes in both places. Same loud music in both places. Same taxi set up outside at both places. Same clientele at both places. I enjoy both places and visit both everytime I go. And to call Summit Club low class, some girl must have hurt your feelings. Anyone who has been to both clubs knows there is no difference in the women that work in those places. I had a girl in Royal Park from Zimbabwe that tried to convince me to take her and her friend upstairs after I told her that I only wanted her. She was being persistent. Red flag for me. I got up and moved on. To many other girls to be upset over one. There are some good talent at both locations and some hustlers also but that's part of the game.
So I find myself in Durban and wanted to tour the low end seedy side. A place called Butterworth hotel has 2 bars downstairs one smoking one not. Most people are in the smoking bar. I went on a Monday and out of about 30 women there maybe one I would try. I was offered 100 for a quicky and 50 for a blowie. New Rand had even less ladies and none I liked. Galaxy World had 2 ladies who both looked like junkies.
Caramello777
11-30-21, 12:32
So I find myself in Durban and wanted to tour the low end seedy side. A place called Butterworth hotel has 2 bars downstairs one smoking one not. Most people are in the smoking bar. I went on a Monday and out of about 30 women there maybe one I would try. I was offered 100 for a quicky and 50 for a blowie. New Rand had even less ladies and none I liked. Galaxy World had 2 ladies who both looked like junkies.I just left Durban 5 days ago. Your assessment was 100% accurate, except I went to Butterworth on a weekday evening and there were only 12 women (not 30).
If you like massages, I would highly recommend Desi Girls in Umhlanga. A one-hour massage was 1,000 rand. It was an excellent massage and they will do 2 shots (advertised as multiple orgasms). There are 5 to 6 girls there and they were all beautiful: a mixture of Indian, Colored and African for you to select from.
Durban doesn't seem to be the monger town like Johannesburg. You will be terribly disappointed in that regard. However, if you like spending time chasing "normal" girls, Durban is your place as the ratio of men to women in the night clubs is to men's advantage.
Caramello777
11-30-21, 12:44
There is no big difference between the two establishments. You have the same body types in both places. Girls with the same attitudes in both places. Same loud music in both places. Same taxi set up outside at both places. Same clientele at both places. I enjoy both places and visit both everytime I go. And to call Summit Club low class, some girl must have hurt your feelings. Anyone who has been to both clubs knows there is no difference in the women that work in those places. I had a girl in Royal Park from Zimbabwe that tried to convince me to take her and her friend upstairs after I told her that I only wanted her. She was being persistent. Red flag for me. I got up and moved on. To many other girls to be upset over one. There are some good talent at both locations and some hustlers also but that's part of the game.I totally concur with your assessment Confiable. No difference between the two as far as music, setup and lady quality. I have met future ex-wives at both places.
I like the food better in The Summit Club because they always have a selection of 3 entrees in the warming pans and the food is good quality. Where's at Royal Park, the caterer brings in food in plastic containers.
The perks of Summit Club: Better food. The ladies like to party in their rooms after hours. The taxis don't block the street off from Uber / Bolt drivers so if you have a regular driver that you can call, he can pick you up just outside to the left and you can hop in. Royal Park doesn't play that. Summit is closer to Sandton / Rosebank so you will save 50 rand on using their taxi service, should you decide not to take a chance with Uber / Bolt (250 rand vs 300 at Royal Park).
The perks of Royal Park Hotel: More women offering service for only 200 rand. Pool tables in two different sections. Larger floor space.
I just left Durban 5 days ago. Your assessment was 100% accurate, except I went to Butterworth on a weekday evening and there were only 12 women (not 30).
If you like massages, I would highly recommend Desi Girls in Umhlanga. A one-hour massage was 1,000 rand. It was an excellent massage and they will do 2 shots (advertised as multiple orgasms). There are 5 to 6 girls there and they were all beautiful: a mixture of Indian, Colored and African for you to select from.
Durban doesn't seem to be the monger town like Johannesburg. You will be terribly disappointed in that regard. However, if you like spending time chasing "normal" girls, Durban is your place as the ratio of men to women in the night clubs is to men's advantage.I was in Durban last October for a short stay. Florida ave is the place to be. Cubana and it's one other place I can't remember the name maybe it's caled wish. But that's where the women hangout. IG type women. I had to approach them because they were not going to. Also the mall, Legacy yard, and restuarants around Umhlanga have girls that are beautiful and friendly. Also, an Uber driver that is cool will assist you in where to go for a good time. You can always rely on ESA if you are unlucky.
GregALewis1
12-28-21, 15:10
Which Protea? There are five of them in JoBurg.
Finally took the long awaited trip to joberg and boy am I happy I did. Before I go on with the review huge shout out to Zakmo for all the advice and information he gave me before my trip. You made my trip way easier and I was able to move around like a vet despite being a newcomer. That's the whole purpose of this board and I'll be sure to pass on my knowledge to the next brother.
Anyway on to the trip. So I arrive on a Sunday for a week long stay. They didn't even check for my vaccination or a covid test. Catch a Uber to my hotel which was protea hotel. Suite room for 35 bucks a night can't beat it. I'll definitely be staying there again.
I was in South Africa between Christmas and New year day. I had a very cheerful experience especially my four-day in Cape Town CBD and Southern suburbs. Though there are many websites advertising massage and escorting services (you need just to google them), I opted for the more professional massage website where even the ladies (and gents) advertise for massage / adult massage, they most of all offer extra.
The reason is that I realized the ladies on other websites do not really have any knowledge on massage therapy, you enter the room mostly in mansions or villas fully packed with similar sex workers. The lady you called is ready and rushes to have it done with some oil applied on your legs, she moves quickly to the dick, which is already hardened and she wants you to fuck and go.
On this experience for all the type I met, I decided to use the professional massage web site (PM if you wish).
Do you know what? These ladies have nice places mostly in hotels with wide rooms with all facilities and there is a feeling of comfort and hospitality. Privacy should not be a problem in SA, nobody cares.
Now my top list in Cape Town is as follows (all black): Brenda, Tazneem, Patricia, Summer, Kate, and more. Black are more affordable, their prices are negotiable while white and colored have set their prices and do not allow negotiation, which I do not like while value for money leads my decision making.
Try Rondebosch, Claremont an Kenilworth, CBD, and Green Point and thank me later.
Once you settle in South Africa, there is no hassle with the COVID thing. Things are more than normal.
MikaPeltinin
01-16-22, 18:59
Uni,
Long time Monger in the US.
This forum so far looks the best but if you can post others within the terms of service that would be great as I am not allowed to PM yet.
Thanks.
Mika.
I was in South Africa between Christmas and New year day. I had a very cheerful experience especially my four-day in Cape Town CBD and Southern suburbs. Though there are many websites advertising massage and escorting services (you need just to google them), I opted for the more professional massage website where even the ladies (and gents) advertise for massage / adult massage, they most of all offer extra.
The reason is that I realized the ladies on other websites do not really have any knowledge on massage therapy, you enter the room mostly in mansions or villas fully packed with similar sex workers. The lady you called is ready and rushes to have it done with some oil applied on your legs, she moves quickly to the dick, which is already hardened and she wants you to fuck and go..
Uni,
Long time Monger in the US.
This forum so far looks the best but if you can post others within the terms of service that would be great as I am not allowed to PM yet..Try the web site massage dot co dot za and go to Cape Town CBD. They are Zimbabwean. I remember one day: when I was leaving the place after my session, I found 4 mongers queuing and looking angry at me because I spent too much time. Just the CBD area.
Any more trip report for JHB, I plan on travelling down soon.
I really appreciate the trip reports but they have provided awesome info.
OldSchool318
02-16-22, 04:22
Any intel on this area? Seems under reported.
Also, thinking of flying there and doing a road trip to cape town in rented jeep. Smart? Is there any pleasures on that route?
Any intel on this area? Seems under reported.
Also, thinking of flying there and doing a road trip to cape town in rented jeep. Smart? Is there any pleasures on that route?It's hit and miss. The majority of the action in Durban happens at Florida Road which is full of bars and restaurants and is usually jam packed on the weekends. There are street walkers not far from there but it can be dangerous as local cops are often patrolling and looking for a bribe especially if they figure out you are a foreigner. You can get massages from Indian beauties in Umhlangha often with extra's involved. Umhlangha is a posher part of Durban and is served by Gateway mall.
Cape Town is lovely if you take the garden route it would be a memorable trip. Stellenbosch is safe and full of little cafe's etc. Mongering wise the best place is Johannesburg. Get yourself on Seeking and you can find something to your taste. There are lap dancing joints and other places but again you don't want to be in a place which is dodgy and car jackings are rife in Johannesburg as things are far apart. Get yourself to Sandton and visit the mall and you can usually approach a woman and hit things off.
Eirizarryrnb
02-28-22, 01:33
At midnight on a Sunday night tonight, I busted a dummie move: I ordered an Uber / Bolt to Summit Club!
Three drivers passed up on me live on the app, and I thought they were P*honk honk*ussies.
No man; now I get them. I really do!
So the guy called me that soon after got ambushed by street natives. It's an African thing for Uber / Bolt drivers to call.
To confirm. Called and asked "Hey man are you by Summit?
"Yeap I'm next to it".
"Hurry up man; they cannot catch me fetching you (picking you up)".
So what fcked it up was the security guard from the Summit Club stopped me from going to the Bolt taxi that was 50 metres away.
The time we spent politicking about my safety I could have made it to the car before the streets started the madness.
The dialogue goes something like this:
"Hey brother you need go back in the club and we'll get you a taxi driver".
"I'm good I'm not afraid of these Jozi punks out there".
"Put that cellphone away or else Jozi will have it!
"What I didn't hear you?
"Jozi man. The streets will take that cellphone from you".
"Man again I'm not afraid of these punks".
"Alright it's your call".
I begin walking towards the car as the cellphone in my pocket is yelling "Hurry the hell up aibo eish (For Christ's Sake in their language)" I didn't hang up the cellphone. The security guard is murmuring something to some other dudes behind me (maybe he drew attention to the shituation?
7 seconds later: Shouting and yelling ". WTF. *Inaudible Xhosa Zulu expletives*.
BOOM! CRACK! BANG! CRACK BOOM!
A big bottle shattered on the Bolt drivers windshield!
I didn't act shocked when that boom happened or else I would have made myself a target.
To become robbed since I would see easily nervous by the loud impact sound of them throwing the first bottle at the car.
3 seconds later 4 dudes came out "plain from the shadows" like Lionel Richie's Running with the night.
Kicking. Breaking a window as the Bolt driver sped off without me.
If I had ran to the Bolt and he would have locked the door thinking I was one of them, I would have been food for those Jozi zombie thugs. Holy fcuk! In my pocket barely able to hide from plain sight, I had a USD $300 32 MP cam phone large phone form factor 2022 edition with a stack of blue Nelson Mandelas. R1,000 on me (60 USD on me convertible) and I didn't get vicc'ed (it would have been a fight on their hands and I was ready for that shit but they don't have the heart like the late James Ingram to step to me but they stepped fearlessly to that Bolt cabbie!
So as I was walking not too slowly but not too quickly to avoid effervescing nervous energy from my pores (I wasn't nervous but I knew to strategically get out of there like the way I've mentioned how I did it), I finally, like CeCe Peniston, got back to the doorway of The Summit Club with the Security guard scoffing at me, "I told you so you thought I was lying, I told you so."
The guard and 3 other security guards that came from their break were laughing their head off at the whole ordeal.
Yeap Hillbrow loathes Uber and Bolt for taking money out of local cabbies pockets! (I really thought that as empty.
As Claim Street was on a Sunday Jesus Wept God Sabbath rest day at midnight South African time that I could pull that stunt off. Yeah I'm crazy af!
Yeap I shall go to Sandton / Rivonia and do the strip club thingy there and fck pro's on prem there from hereon out!
I might not make it the next time I go and try to leave The Summit Club even with a local taxi this time!!
How many of you guys think the security guard set my sh!t up? I kinda think so.
At midnight on a Sunday night tonight, I busted a dummie move: I ordered an Uber / Bolt to Summit Club!
How many of you guys think the security guard set my sh!t up? I kinda think so.Nah, they didn't set you up but you made a very rookie mistake. When leaving Royal Park / Summit, just take a taxi from the front of the club and call it a night. It might be a little bit more money but the peace of mind cant be beat. Even better if you can get a private taxi arrangement set up from one of the taxis there. Anytime you want to go to the club they'll be your go to guy.
In Africa you gotta be a lot more resourceful. When I go, I usually try to have 1-2 personal drivers I can call to move me around. I’ll still use Uber/Bolt but always good to have a backup.
That's all there is to it. And yea, never walk the streets with your phone on you late at night at Hillbrow.
Other than that, be safe and enjoy.
Glad you kept calm and no harm came to you, but how about some details of the club and women.
At midnight on a Sunday night tonight, I busted a dummie move: I ordered an Uber / Bolt to Summit Club!
Three drivers passed up on me live on the app, and I thought they were P*honk honk*ussies.
No man; now I get them. I really do!
So the guy called me that soon after got ambushed by street natives. It's an African thing for Uber / Bolt drivers to call.
To confirm. Called and asked "Hey man are you by Summit?.
Nah, they didn't set you up but you made a very rookie mistake. When leaving Royal Park / Summit, just take a taxi from the front of the club and call it a night. It might be a little bit more money but the peace of mind cant be beat. Even better if you can get a private taxi arrangement set up from one of the taxis there. Anytime you want to go to the club they'll be your go to guy.
In Africa you gotta be a lot more resourceful. When I go, I usually try to have 1-2 personal drivers I can call to move me around. Ill still use Uber/Bolt but always good to have a backup.
That's all there is to it. And yea, never walk the streets with your phone on you late at night at Hillbrow.
Other than that, be safe and enjoy.It's called common sense. I wouldn't walk around Summit or Royal Park at night. You are inviting trouble. The taxis parked out front of these establishments are the best and only option at night. As far as taking a taxi there, I have had plenty of uber drivres warn me about going there. Been to both places numerous times and had no problems and will continue to go and enjoy myself.
Glad you kept calm and no harm came to you, but how about some details of the club and women.I second this as well, let's get some actual info on the proceedings in the club and what the women were like.
Booty Zar Booty is the prototype but Segos got next! Kenyan girls are way thicker than Ghana goes, although there's ass everywhere in Africa but as a chubby chaser, SA is our mecca. It's either TZ or SA at this point. I want to let SA "stretch" it's arms out before buying the ticket. It might be my last spot before going back to the US.Can anyone explain me what's TZ? I understand SA.
can anyone explain me what's tz? I understand sa.TZ = Tanzania.
TZ = Tanzania.Thanks. I had confused it with something else.
Joburg and Cape Town are the biggest cities for the hobby, with emphasis on Joburg, but it's worth noting some ladies will come from smaller cities (approx 1-2 hrs away) to the bigger cities for the weekend to find clients / have fun. If you're in SA for an extended time and don't mind venturing out, it might be worthwhile to check out some of the smaller cities. Not as fast, not as much competition and the ladies are still like you'd find in Joburg (big booty women).
It's a buyer's market all around so don't limit yourself. I've heard East London and Port Elizabeth are some gems. Durban as well.
My next time in SA I'll peruse some of the other towns and cities outside of Joburg. This place is really a big booty lover paradise.
South Africa is next on my list after a nice stay in Kenya. For some reason though from texting with south African tinder girls, the girls seem to have difficult personality like American girls. Would you say I am reading them incorrectly. I had great vibes and many successes from tinder in Kenya.
Joburg and Cape Town are the biggest cities for the hobby, with emphasis on Joburg, but it's worth noting some ladies will come from smaller cities (approx 1-2 hrs away) to the bigger cities for the weekend to find clients / have fun. If you're in SA for an extended time and don't mind venturing out, it might be worthwhile to check out some of the smaller cities. Not as fast, not as much competition and the ladies are still like you'd find in Joburg (big booty women).
It's a buyer's market all around so don't limit yourself. I've heard East London and Port Elizabeth are some gems. Durban as well.
My next time in SA I'll peruse some of the other towns and cities outside of Joburg. This place is really a big booty lover paradise.
South Africa is next on my list after a nice stay in Kenya. For some reason though from texting with south African tinder girls, the girls seem to have difficult personality like American girls. Would you say I am reading them incorrectly. I had great vibes and many successes from tinder in Kenya.SA (South Africa) is definitely more westernized than Kenya, but women online are just a fraction of what you'll find in person. Girls act one way online, but in person it's a different story.
Eirizarryrnb
04-05-22, 12:10
SA (South Africa) is definitely more westernized than Kenya, but women online are just a fraction of what you'll find in person. Girls act one way online, but in person it's a different story.W / here did you go that offline women were cool? I tried Mall of Africa and no such luck. Girls flaking on me.
W / here did you go that offline women were cool? I tried Mall of Africa and no such luck. Girls flaking on me.I usually went to lounges, bars in the more upscale part of town (Sandton, Rosebank etc). At the end of the day it's a numbers game. Not all chicks will be down, but if you approach them right they will be down to have fun.
Remember, a lot of these younger chicks eg under 25, don't really have money like that to enjoy the iG lifestyles they consume in the media. You want to come across as this guy that will bring some excitement in their life even if for a few days. Nothing more to it than that.
Some will deff flake, but if you can make them feel comfortable and show them a good time, then you're good. Just take charge of the situation and ensure your logistics are tight eg staying close to where the action is.
Show them that you have bread, but don't necessarily lead with it. They will tell by how you're moving. You wanna make it seem like “Man, this guy is gonna have a good time and I don’t want to miss out on the fun.”
Hi all,
Can I please ask for an idiots' guide to hobbying in Cape Town. I will be there for 5 nights in May and have absolutely no idea where to start? I have had a great time in Mexico, Thailand and Spain, mostly from online contacts like Twitter (Mexico City) and Mileroticos in Cancun, brothels in Spain and street and massage girls in Thailand. Could someone please let me know if they have advice regarding a trustworthy website or explain the best way to approach things when we arrive in Cape Town. I believe we are staying in CBD. Is it through massage parlours or is there a way of contacting local independent freelancers online? I don't want to risk any situation in dodgy areas but am happy to lower my bar of expectations if need be.
I will of course feedback with reports and advice on my return. Thanks very much for your help everyone. Keep safe.
ImpressiveWin
05-02-22, 09:52
I'm going to be in JNB on Thursday and Friday. Can someone advise me on the best massage parlours offering extras with curvy line ups in town?
Moreover, if anyone wants to link up and hit up the strip clubs I'd also be down.
MackeySasser
05-03-22, 05:57
ESA and Redvelvet have been mentioned here extensively. Those are good sites. Read the forum and you'll see more info. Or upgrade your membership and I can pm you some info.Good info here, thanks.
Hi all,
Can I please ask for an idiots' guide to hobbying in Cape Town. I will be there for 5 nights in May and have absolutely no idea where to start? I have had a great time in Mexico, Thailand and Spain, mostly from online contacts like Twitter (Mexico City) and Mileroticos in Cancun, brothels in Spain and street and massage girls in Thailand. Could someone please let me know if they have advice regarding a trustworthy website or explain the best way to approach things when we arrive in Cape Town. I believe we are staying in CBD. Is it through massage parlours or is there a way of contacting local independent freelancers online? I don't want to risk any situation in dodgy areas but am happy to lower my bar of expectations if need be.
I will of course feedback with reports and advice on my return. Thanks very much for your help everyone. Keep safe.I think you can try to search in dating apps.
Hi all,
Can I please ask for an idiots' guide to hobbying in Cape Town. I will be there for 5 nights in May and have absolutely no idea where to start? I have had a great time in Mexico, Thailand and Spain, mostly from online contacts like Twitter (Mexico City) and Mileroticos in Cancun, brothels in Spain and street and massage girls in Thailand. Could someone please let me know if they have advice regarding a trustworthy website or explain the best way to approach things when we arrive in Cape Town. I believe we are staying in CBD. Is it through massage parlours or is there a way of contacting local independent freelancers online? I don't want to risk any situation in dodgy areas but am happy to lower my bar of expectations if need be.
I will of course feedback with reports and advice on my return. Thanks very much for your help everyone. Keep safe.I don't know your age or your confident level but approaching women works. The V&A waterfront, visit long street for bars, Tinder app works, and Escort South Africa website.
Norfolklad
05-09-22, 23:04
46 Vissershof Rd, Bothasig.
I am writing this as a warning to anyone thinking of going for a massage at 46 Vissershof Rd, Bothasig. This establishment has degraded from a very decent massage studio offering extras to a den of thieves.
My own experience with this establishment goes back to 2019 when I regularly received a rub, tug and BJ from one of their ladies.
During lockdown, Bonita manned the show and also provided excellent services.
https://massage.co.za/therapist/detailed-profile/id/30032
So much so, that I left her a glowing review on massage. Co. Za.
That was unfortunately, the end of it.
As lockdown restrictions eased, the establishment saw it fit to implement a new business model. Instead of two, three or four ladies being on duty in the salon, suddenly they have a miriad of choice. The only problem is that if you call Jane to make a booking, she tells you she's in Khayelitsha and can only see you in a couple of hours, or maybe the next day. This despite the listings on massage. Co. Za clearly showing when they're supposed to be working.
This was also when prices went up by more than 50%.
I attempted a visit, booked a lady for a specific day and time only to discover a bait and switch. Even though none of them show their faces on the website, if she has an A cup on the site, you expect an A cup in the room. Ditto for if she's a size 8-10 on the site, you do not expect a size 16 in the room with an bum the size of the back of a diesel bus.
After that I avoided the place, until today.
Lo and behold, my old friend Bonita's listing was active again. I called her, confirmed availability, prices and services, made a booking, arrived, was ushered into the room by one lady who then told me Bonita would be with me soon. That was when I discovered their next scam. The women are selling their profiles that have good ratings to newcomers.
Suddenly Bonita wasn't Bonita. Instead, a completely different woman entered the room and tried to con me into thinking she was Bonita. Red flag number one. But when the sack's full, it's full, so I decided to go with the flow, got undressed and lay on the table. What followed was the most pathetic attempt at a sensual massage I have ever had the misfortune of experiencing. First she burned me with hot oil. When I told her the oil was too hot, she took it off the burner, cooled it down and then poured half the oil holder onto my back before spending the next 20 minutes slopping her hands through the oil. She then climbed into my back for what I assume was supposed to be a series of body slides. Lieing dead still on someone's back for 10 minutes, trying to suffocate them, is not a body slide.
Eventually I grew bored of this and asked her to please climb off my back. She then asked me to turn around. I did and. You guessed it. She poured hot oil onto my dick.
That was when I got up to leave, but she begged me to stay. With hidsight, I should have saved myself stress and frustration and left. But, when the sack's full, it's full. I lay down again and lay there while she tried to jerk my burned dick off. After a couple of minutes, I asked her what about the BJ. She immediately retorted with; "that's extra". When I told her that she was not doing what she had agreed to do, at the price we had agreed on, she went to the cupboard, fetched a condom, stuck the thing in my face with one hand while she continued to try to jerk me off with the other.
Over the years I've seen a thing or two while punting, but this next one takes the cake. She then tried to fake a blow job. She put her face next to my dick above my bladder area, hid her mouth with her arm, carried on jerking me off and started making drowning sounds as if she were giving me sloppy toppy. How stupid must this woman think I am?
That was when I lost it and tried to leave, only to discover that suddenly she couldn't get the door unlocked. It was only after I had threatened to call the cops and tell them I was being held against my will that the door magically unlocked.
I paid her for the rubbish massage and left.
As I've said before, this is a den of thieves. If you use massage. Co. Za, avoid any listings for Bothasig, Cape Town North that make mention of Touched Spa. If a woman tries to lure you to 46 Vissershof Rd, run.
Just came back from thick woman big ass heaven. Spent nearly two weeks there. Second time I have been. I'm going to keep the report brief because I would just be repeating the same thing as recent reports.
When I was there the exchange with dollar was 16:1.
I went to Royal Park and Summit, used ESA Joberg and Pretoria site and had over 1000 request on tinder and bumble. Had about 2-3 fucks on average a day. I will breakdown prices below:
Royal Park 200-400 Rand request to fuck and come once. You can negotiate more time. I didn't session here at all though because I found Summit so much better. The couple girls I wanted got scooped up every time I want. The lay out of the club is more spacious than summit but I don't like how the big ass bar is in the middle of the floor and the stripper stage is squish to the side. Majority of the girls are sandwiched over there between dudes. Every time I went there were more guys than girls. Everyone was chill though no problems. The security makes you put on a mask to enter the club which is weird because no has one on when you go in. It's 100 Rand to enter and they stamp your wrists so you can reenter once you leave and come back.
The taxi Mafia there charges 80 rand to go to Summit. I did negotiate down to 60 but that's as far they would go. You can take a bolt or Uber to the club but can't call one to pick you up. I paid 120-150 Rand to get to Killarney area where I stayed from the club. There is a gas station close by which you could have them drop you off there and then call an Uber or bolt. You could stay inside the store and wait for the Uber or bolt without any problems.
Summit girls charge 300-500 to fuck once, 1000-1500 if you want to fuck all night at your place. Multiple girls asked to come stay with me for the night but I never did. I went here so much and fucked so much there it came a point where there was no one else I wanted to fuck LOL. This club has less space but it's designed better in my opinion. The stripper poles are in the middle of the club and there are other rooms you can go to for private dances and fucking and food.
The taxi Mafia here charges the exact same rates.
ESA girls charge anywhere from 400-600 for a half hour and 500-800 for an hour. For all night you can negotiate between 1500 and some asked for like 5000 which was crazy as hell. I found great asses on this site and hits some duds which is fine expected. There were 700 plus girls available in joberg and close to 400 in Pretoria and some of the girls will switch between joberg and Pretoria every other day. In joberg, the girls are spread out everywhere from east Rand, to Randburg to byranston and sandton. Some will be in shared apartments with other girls, some are in motels.
Tinder / bumble girls were dates that most just food and travel to meet up. A few university girls ask for money to school. One girl asked me for 3000 straight up so you could get some crazy requests. By the end of the trip, I stopped going on regular dates because alot of the girls wanted to be stuck to me, wanted to spend the night when I wanted to fuck other girls. So I just used the other options I mentioned above.
Bolt is general cheaper around town but when I went to Pretoria Uber was actually cheaper. Both have food delivery services which I used a ton.
There was load shedding where whole blocks were strategically turned off during different times of the day. So I suggest you look for buildings or hotels that have generators so it doesn't mess up your flow. All in all a great trip with a lot of fucking. Can't wait to go back.
Just came back from thick woman big ass heaven. Spent nearly two weeks there. Second time I have been. I'm going to keep the report brief because I would just be repeating the same thing as recent reports.
When I was there the exchange with dollar was 16:1.
I went to Royal Park and Summit, used ESA Joberg and Pretoria site and had over 1000 request on tinder and bumble. Had about 2-3 fucks on average a day. I will breakdown prices below:
Royal Park 200-400 Rand request to fuck and come once. You can negotiate more time. I didn't session here at all though because I found Summit so much better. The couple girls I wanted got scooped up every time I want. The lay out of the club is more spacious than summit but I don't like how the big ass bar is in the middle of the floor and the stripper stage is squish to the side. Majority of the girls are sandwiched over there between dudes. Every time I went there were more guys than girls. Everyone was chill though no problems. The security makes you put on a mask to enter the club which is weird because no has one on when you go in. It's 100 Rand to enter and they stamp your wrists so you can reenter once you leave and come back.
The taxi Mafia there charges 80 rand to go to Summit. I did negotiate down to 60 but that's as far they would go. You can take a bolt or Uber to the club but can't call one to pick you up. I paid 120-150 Rand to get to Killarney area where I stayed from the club. There is a gas station close by which you could have them drop you off there and then call an Uber or bolt. You could stay inside the store and wait for the Uber or bolt without any problems.
Summit girls charge 300-500 to fuck once, 1000-1500 if you want to fuck all night at your place. Multiple girls asked to come stay with me for the night but I never did. I went here so much and fucked so much there it came a point where there was no one else I wanted to fuck LOL. This club has less space but it's designed better in my opinion. The stripper poles are in the middle of the club and there are other rooms you can go to for private dances and fucking and food.
The taxi Mafia here charges the exact same rates.
ESA girls charge anywhere from 400-600 for a half hour and 500-800 for an hour. For all night you can negotiate between 1500 and some asked for like 5000 which was crazy as hell. I found great asses on this site and hits some duds which is fine expected. There were 700 plus girls available in joberg and close to 400 in Pretoria and some of the girls will switch between joberg and Pretoria every other day. In joberg, the girls are spread out everywhere from east Rand, to Randburg to byranston and sandton. Some will be in shared apartments with other girls, some are in motels.
Tinder / bumble girls were dates that most just food and travel to meet up. A few university girls ask for money to school. One girl asked me for 3000 straight up so you could get some crazy requests. By the end of the trip, I stopped going on regular dates because alot of the girls wanted to be stuck to me, wanted to spend the night when I wanted to fuck other girls. So I just used the other options I mentioned above.
Bolt is general cheaper around town but when I went to Pretoria Uber was actually cheaper. Both have food delivery services which I used a ton.
There was load shedding where whole blocks were strategically turned off during different times of the day. So I suggest you look for buildings or hotels that have generators so it doesn't mess up your flow. All in all a great trip with a lot of fucking. Can't wait to go back.Sounds like you had a great time brother. I love summit club man. I shared your same opinion. I had a couple at royal Park but eventually I said forget royal park and start going to summit club everyday LOL. I snuck a trip to joberg in April for 4 days because I got a steal of a price with Ethiopian airlines. 560 round trip. One of the dancers with a huge ass named Lerato who I build a relationship with the first time snatched me up and I couldn't bang the whole club like I intended LOL. I mean me and her had an amazing time but still I wanted to go crazy. I'm a have to sneak down there again when she not working that week. I'm a sneak and ask her is she working before I go LOL.
Just came back from thick woman big ass heaven. Spent nearly two weeks there. Second time I have been. I'm going to keep the report brief because I would just be repeating the same thing as recent reports.
When I was there the exchange with dollar was 16:1.
I went to Royal Park and Summit, used ESA Joberg and Pretoria site and had over 1000 request on tinder and bumble. Had about 2-3 fucks on average a day. I will breakdown prices below:
Royal Park 200-400 Rand request to fuck and come once. You can negotiate more time. I didn't session here at all though because I found Summit so much better. The couple girls I wanted got scooped up every time I want. The lay out of the club is more spacious than summit but I don't like how the big ass bar is in the middle of the floor and the stripper stage is squish to the side. Majority of the girls are sandwiched over there between dudes. Every time I went there were more guys than girls. Everyone was chill though no problems. The security makes you put on a mask to enter the club which is weird because no has one on when you go in. It's 100 Rand to enter and they stamp your wrists so you can reenter once you leave and come back.
The taxi Mafia there charges 80 rand to go to Summit. I did negotiate down to 60 but that's as far they would go. You can take a bolt or Uber to the club but can't call one to pick you up. I paid 120-150 Rand to get to Killarney area where I stayed from the club. There is a gas station close by which you could have them drop you off there and then call an Uber or bolt. You could stay inside the store and wait for the Uber or bolt without any problems.
Summit girls charge 300-500 to fuck once, 1000-1500 if you want to fuck all night at your place. Multiple girls asked to come stay with me for the night but I never did. I went here so much and fucked so much there it came a point where there was no one else I wanted to fuck LOL. This club has less space but it's designed better in my opinion. The stripper poles are in the middle of the club and there are other rooms you can go to for private dances and fucking and food.
The taxi Mafia here charges the exact same rates.
ESA girls charge anywhere from 400-600 for a half hour and 500-800 for an hour. For all night you can negotiate between 1500 and some asked for like 5000 which was crazy as hell. I found great asses on this site and hits some duds which is fine expected. There were 700 plus girls available in joberg and close to 400 in Pretoria and some of the girls will switch between joberg and Pretoria every other day. In joberg, the girls are spread out everywhere from east Rand, to Randburg to byranston and sandton. Some will be in shared apartments with other girls, some are in motels.
Tinder / bumble girls were dates that most just food and travel to meet up. A few university girls ask for money to school. One girl asked me for 3000 straight up so you could get some crazy requests. By the end of the trip, I stopped going on regular dates because alot of the girls wanted to be stuck to me, wanted to spend the night when I wanted to fuck other girls. So I just used the other options I mentioned above.
Bolt is general cheaper around town but when I went to Pretoria Uber was actually cheaper. Both have food delivery services which I used a ton.
There was load shedding where whole blocks were strategically turned off during different times of the day. So I suggest you look for buildings or hotels that have generators so it doesn't mess up your flow. All in all a great trip with a lot of fucking. Can't wait to go back.Great trip report. We need more like these in terms of location, prices and pics.
Good to know ESA prices are still pretty stable from when I went there a while back. I'll be going again in a few months so this really helps.
The ladies you have pics of, where did you get them? Are those your summit dates or ESA or a mix? Some nice asses on there.
Just came back from thick woman big ass heaven. Spent nearly two weeks there. Second time I have been. I'm going to keep the report brief because I would just be repeating the same thing as recent reports..Wondering if you have any more pics of some of the ladies you met there? Great asses so far.
Just came back from thick woman big ass heaven. Spent nearly two weeks there. Second time I have been. I'm going to keep the report brief because I would just be repeating the same thing as recent reports..Can you clear out your inbox? Tried to PM you.
Trick Williams
06-11-22, 15:52
Just came back from thick woman big ass heaven. Spent nearly two weeks there. Second time I have been. I'm going to keep the report brief because I would just be repeating the same thing as recent reports.
When I was there the exchange with dollar was 16:1.
I went to Royal Park and Summit, used ESA Joberg and Pretoria site and had over 1000 request on tinder and bumble. Had about 2-3 fucks on average a day. I will breakdown prices below:
Royal Park 200-400 Rand request to fuck and come once. You can negotiate more time. I didn't session here at all though because I found Summit so much better. The couple girls I wanted got scooped up every time I want. The lay out of the club is more spacious than summit but I don't like how the big ass bar is in the middle of the floor and the stripper stage is squish to the side. Majority of the girls are sandwiched over there between dudes. Every time I went there were more guys than girls. Everyone was chill though no problems. The security makes you put on a mask to enter the club which is weird because no has one on when you go in. It's 100 Rand to enter and they stamp your wrists so you can reenter once you leave and come back.
The taxi Mafia there charges 80 rand to go to Summit. I did negotiate down to 60 but that's as far they would go. You can take a bolt or Uber to the club but can't call one to pick you up. I paid 120-150 Rand to get to Killarney area where I stayed from the club. There is a gas station close by which you could have them drop you off there and then call an Uber or bolt. You could stay inside the store and wait for the Uber or bolt without any problems.
Summit girls charge 300-500 to fuck once, 1000-1500 if you want to fuck all night at your place. Multiple girls asked to come stay with me for the night but I never did. I went here so much and fucked so much there it came a point where there was no one else I wanted to fuck LOL. This club has less space but it's designed better in my opinion. The stripper poles are in the middle of the club and there are other rooms you can go to for private dances and fucking and food.
The taxi Mafia here charges the exact same rates.
ESA girls charge anywhere from 400-600 for a half hour and 500-800 for an hour. For all night you can negotiate between 1500 and some asked for like 5000 which was crazy as hell. I found great asses on this site and hits some duds which is fine expected. There were 700 plus girls available in joberg and close to 400 in Pretoria and some of the girls will switch between joberg and Pretoria every other day. In joberg, the girls are spread out everywhere from east Rand, to Randburg to byranston and sandton. Some will be in shared apartments with other girls, some are in motels.
Tinder / bumble girls were dates that most just food and travel to meet up. A few university girls ask for money to school. One girl asked me for 3000 straight up so you could get some crazy requests. By the end of the trip, I stopped going on regular dates because alot of the girls wanted to be stuck to me, wanted to spend the night when I wanted to fuck other girls. So I just used the other options I mentioned above.
Bolt is general cheaper around town but when I went to Pretoria Uber was actually cheaper. Both have food delivery services which I used a ton.
There was load shedding where whole blocks were strategically turned off during different times of the day. So I suggest you look for buildings or hotels that have generators so it doesn't mess up your flow. All in all a great trip with a lot of fucking. Can't wait to go back.Great report! Good to see your still posting. Was wondering what happend to you. Keep posting those big asses.
Great trip report. We need more like these in terms of location, prices and pics.
Good to know ESA prices are still pretty stable from when I went there a while back. I'll be going again in a few months so this really helps.
The ladies you have pics of, where did you get them? Are those your summit dates or ESA or a mix? Some nice asses on there.What's ESA brother?
What's ESA brother?It's an escort listing site for SA. Read the forum and you'll see it mentioned many times. I always tell people read the forum at least 1-2 years back. Once you do, you'll find likely answer most of your low hanging fruit questions.
IAmSlobbyist
06-25-22, 02:39
I was in Johannesburg for one night, so I searched Red Velvet and called this girl.
https://redvelvet.co.za/escorts/escorts_details.aspx?userid=46665
She showed up at the room with a "friend" who collected the money. I was a little nervous about having someone else come to the room, but it was just another girl, and she was nice, took the money and left leaving me with Cardi. It was a little bit awkward though. I paid 1200 are plus 100 BBJ and 200 extra for cumming on her body. Despite the annoying overcharges and the "friend" she was absolutely amazing, gorgeous, and sweet. She was super responsive to everything and allowed kissing and DATY. She provided such a perfect GFE experience that I might try for overnight with her when I return to Johannesburg.
I was in Johannesburg for one night, so I searched Red Velvet and called this girl.
https://redvelvet.co.za/escorts/escorts_details.aspx?userid=46665
She showed up at the room with a "friend" who collected the money. I was a little nervous about having someone else come to the room, but it was just another girl, and she was nice, took the money and left leaving me with Cardi. It was a little bit awkward though. I paid 1200 are plus 100 BBJ and 200 extra for cumming on her body. Despite the annoying overcharges and the "friend" she was absolutely amazing, gorgeous, and sweet. She was super responsive to everything and allowed kissing and DATY. She provided such a perfect GFE experience that I might try for overnight with her when I return to Johannesburg.1200 ZAR seems a bit on the steep side for a single session or ST. Was this for just for an HR? 1500 ZAR is what some would ask for an all night session. It might have been because you were just there for a night so no need to haggle down, but I am curious.
Hey,
First time on this forum I see a lot of good intel. ZAKMO I read your reviews and others on Johannesburg. A little about myself I visited DR, Colombia, Tijuana, Thailand and My all time Favorite Brazil. I like to mix things up a bit, A little Bit of club action and street action and Tinder. I too is a Fan of Cherokee DAss, Pinky and Ms. Cleo type Bodies and mainly Phat Asses. I plan on going in September, Just need help on a place to stay out there. I want to do a Hotel. Type of Hotel I'm looking for is a Girl Friendly and smoking one. I would like to be not to far from the action. To ZAKMO.
Hey,
First time on this forum I see a lot of good intel. ZAKMO I read your reviews and others on Johannesburg. A little about myself I visited DR, Colombia, Tijuana, Thailand and My all time Favorite Brazil. I like to mix things up a bit, A little Bit of club action and street action and Tinder. I too is a Fan of Cherokee DAss, Pinky and Ms. Cleo type Bodies and mainly Phat Asses. I plan on going in September, Just need help on a place to stay out there. I want to do a Hotel. Type of Hotel I'm looking for is a Girl Friendly and smoking one. I would like to be not to far from the action. To ZAKMO.You picked the right place for those type of phat asses, this place beats every other place you mentioned by a country mile. The only thing is those places you mentioned have a more built out hobby industry, but I think that is actually a net negative as the places become over crowded. Johannesburg and South Africa aren't as busy.
Johannesburg is pretty easy. You want to stay in Sandton or Rosebank. That is where most of the clubs are.
If you want to mix things up, I suggest using online sites (ESA and Redvelvet), dating sites (Tinder), on ground game (clubs, lounges, bars, etc) and social media (iG and Twitter). For where to stay, I stayed in an Airbnb last time. Some friends have stayed in serviced apartments. You can't go wrong with an international hotel like Hilton or the Sandton Sun. They will be in the city center and will be girl friendly. Again, one of the good things about not having a big hobby industry is you don't have to worry about the girl friendly aspect like you would in say Colombia, Thailand, DR etc.
For your day to day, I suggest you start with on the ground hunting for regulars / semi-pros. You're success here will depend more so on your ability to actually pull girls regularly, gift of gab etc. From there, you may want to move to ladies you found on social media / tinder. In the evenings you can try the clubs, lounges and strip clubs. If after a full day of hunting you were not able to secure a lady on ground, off social media, off a dating app or out of a club, then I suggest using a listing site like ESA or redvelvet.
If you follow that layout / blueprint you'll be very good. If you find any semi-pros you like you can also have them introduce you to their friends as well.
SA is quite simple in Africa, you just have to know where to look.
IAmSlobbyist
07-03-22, 03:09
1200 ZAR seems a bit on the steep side for a single session or ST. Was this for just for an HR? 1500 ZAR is what some would ask for an all night session. It might have been because you were just there for a night so no need to haggle down, but I am curious.Thanks for the information. I did not have time to research prices, so I will know better next time I am in Joberg, which will be soon.
I was in Johannesburg for one night, so I searched Red Velvet and called this girl.
https://redvelvet.co.za/escorts/escorts_details.aspx?userid=46665
She showed up at the room with a "friend" who collected the money. I was a little nervous about having someone else come to the room, but it was just another girl, and she was nice, took the money and left leaving me with Cardi. It was a little bit awkward though. I paid 1200 are plus 100 BBJ and 200 extra for cumming on her body. Despite the annoying overcharges and the "friend" she was absolutely amazing, gorgeous, and sweet. She was super responsive to everything and allowed kissing and DATY. She provided such a perfect GFE experience that I might try for overnight with her when I return to Johannesburg.BBJ and DFK available bro?
Saw some of the pictures in this thread and holy. I didn't know how badly I needed to add South Africa to my list. At least somewhere in Africa. Made me google "can you get HIV if you use a condom" (unfortunately it seems you can. Although I'the imagine it extremely reduces your chances) & "SA HIV rate" (about 1 in 7 is ridiculous). The 1300-1500/24 HR flight is a hurdle for sure but being able to pick from natural bodies like this seems like heaven. Not this year and maybe not even next but these are the type of women I would get on a plane and pay for.
Where is the pretty white pussy to be found in South Africa? That's what we want to know! Haha!
You can get massages from Indian beauties in Umhlangha often with extra's involved.On my recent trip to Durban what pleasantly surprised me was the availability of Indian street walkers on the North Beach area. Some were pretty attractive, also it was early in the day, I did not partake as I was with family. Should imagine they are more affordable rides versus the ladies of Durban North. Indian ladies of Umlhanga are going to cost, so you need deep pockets.
IAmSlobbyist
07-21-22, 19:04
BBJ and DFK available bro?Yes and yes.
Where is the pretty white pussy to be found in South Africa? That's what we want to know! Haha!Night clubs and bars are the places where you should look out for them. And some fashion events too.
On my recent trip to Durban what pleasantly surprised me was the availability of Indian street walkers on the North Beach area. Some were pretty attractive, also it was early in the day, I did not partake as I was with family. Should imagine they are more affordable rides versus the ladies of Durban North. Indian ladies of Umlhanga are going to cost, so you need deep pockets.I think SW everywhere of any origin will be a little less expensive, be it Indian or anyone else.
CarlRoss37
07-24-22, 07:19
Hi guys,
I am in the Menlyn area for a few days. Are there any pointers for day time mongering in Pretoria that I can try out?
Vandelayart
08-26-22, 15:26
Wondering if anyone would advise on the Tinder and Seeking Arrangements scene in Cape Town. It it a long game, or are there plenty of fish in the sea? Also, any recommendations or directories on erotic massage in Cape Town -- not really into the escorting scene, but always appreciate a good rub and tug.
Where is the pretty white pussy to be found in South Africa? That's what we want to know! Haha!Had some of the best experience with a white girl in cape town. I forgot her name (may be Anna or something like that).
Found her online on an escort site.
1500 ZAR including anal. Had her for 1 HR and we exceeded a little bit. She was OK with everything. Let me took pictures. She really participated in the whole thing.
Face: 3/10.
Ass: 8/10.
Tits: 9/10.
Service 10/10.
Wondering if anyone would advise on the Tinder and Seeking Arrangements scene in Cape Town. It it a long game, or are there plenty of fish in the sea? Also, any recommendations or directories on erotic massage in Cape Town -- not really into the escorting scene, but always appreciate a good rub and tug.It's been a while since I partook in South Africa, but Escort South Africa was the go-to resource back then and, based on the current posts, it seems like little has changed.
Back then all escorts also offered massage and most were pretty good at it, too. They just charged the same as with full service so I never just did a rub / tug.
In terms of locals, I'm in the US and I regularly get matched with South Africans (specifically) on Bumble and that's without even trying. Not so much on Tinder, but that may be due to location settings. At any rate, I don't think you'll have any shortage of local women matching with you on either app.
That said, my experience with locals in South Africa is that they're very clingy and don't always put out. I ended up spending more connecting with locals than I did with professionals and the experience / performance was rarely as good. Towards the end of my travels there I connected with bar girls outside the bars. Just had to buy them food and perfume (or a nice outfit) and you were good for at least a week.
Param Ahmad
12-19-22, 07:23
"The South African government has introduced a plan to decriminalize prostitution, hoping to combat the growing violence against women. . . . It is hoped that decriminalization will reduce human rights violations against sex workers."
https://thecradlelife.com/legislation/south-africa-plans-to-decriminalize-prostitution-by-tony-ademiluyi/
DgWarMyMan82
12-28-22, 16:06
I'm a 40-year old American expat living in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on a retirement visa but intend to relocate to South Africa in early-2024 on a permanent residence permit as a retiree. That said, I'd like some insight in terms of how easy is it to meet normal women in Johannesburg and / or other major cities in SA? Also, how do the younger women (mid-20's to early-30's) view relationships with older men in my age range (40-45)? I'd greatly appreciate any info anyone can offer.
I'm a 40-year old American expat living in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on a retirement visa but intend to relocate to South Africa in early-2024 on a permanent residence permit as a retiree. That said, I'd like some insight in terms of how easy is it to meet normal women in Johannesburg and / or other major cities in SA? Also, how do the younger women (mid-20's to early-30's) view relationships with older men in my age range (40-45)? I'd greatly appreciate any info anyone can offer.Like any other major cosmo city. Present well, interact well with women and you're fine. Women are fine with older relationships, but do keep in mind, if you're an older white man and looking to date younger attractive black women then you may run into a few issues here and there as some girls don't want to seen as sugar babies publicly and the biggest tip off is a white older man and younger black lady.
But generally speaking, go to the right lounges, social spots and you'll see women in spades.
DgWarMyMan82
01-03-23, 19:57
Like any other major cosmo city. Present well, interact well with women and you're fine. Women are fine with older relationships, but do keep in mind, if you're an older white man and looking to date younger attractive black women then you may run into a few issues here and there as some girls don't want to seen as sugar babies publicly and the biggest tip off is a white older man and younger black lady.
But generally speaking, go to the right lounges, social spots and you'll see women in spades.Thanks a lot for the info. By the way, I'm African-American and so I appreciate the tip on race and relationships. That's part of the reason I'm moving to South Africa to be honest. Long story short, Brazil has been a nightmare for me due to its issues with racism / colorism. It's easy to meet women here but it's everything else that's the problem. It's one of those places that's great for a temporary stay but once you live here everything changes. Anyway, I'm just looking for a new country where I can live without always looking over my shoulder with concerns about xenophobic and racist locals, crime, and thereat there's a high quality-of-life. Along with beautiful women. I've chosen South Africa mainly due to the high standard of living and modern infrastructure although I still don't know much about the women there. I tried doing some scouting using Tinder and other dating apps just to see what the women look like but the results have been very disappointing thus far. It seems like attractive women (in South Africa) don't use dating apps because all I predominately see are 'big girls' looking for a date. I won't lie that does concern me a bit but at this point my first priority is improving my quality-of-life versus the mistake I made with moving to Brazil with women as the priority.
Thanks a lot for the info. By the way, I'm African-American and so I appreciate the tip on race and relationships. That's part of the reason I'm moving to South Africa to be honest. Long story short, Brazil has been a nightmare for me due to its issues with racism / colorism. It's easy to meet women here but it's everything else that's the problem. It's one of those places that's great for a temporary stay but once you live here everything changes. Anyway, I'm just looking for a new country where I can live without always looking over my shoulder with concerns about xenophobic and racist locals, crime, and thereat there's a high quality-of-life. Along with beautiful women. I've chosen South Africa mainly due to the high standard of living and modern infrastructure although I still don't know much about the women there. I tried doing some scouting using Tinder and other dating apps just to see what the women look like but the results have been very disappointing thus far. It seems like attractive women (in South Africa) don't use dating apps because all I predominately see are 'big girls' looking for a date. I won't lie that does concern me a bit but at this point my first priority is improving my quality-of-life versus the mistake I made with moving to Brazil with women as the priority.Ahhh, a Passport Bro that is done with Brazil LOL. Just kidding my man. I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm also in the US and black outside of making good money, US offers less and less for us. African continent with good funds offers more in terms of quality of life.
South Africa I think you'll be good for, especially Joburg / Jozi. Very cosmopolitan and good infrastructure. Best of the West but the freedom of Africa. And you, as a black man, should do well granted you dress well, are in decent shape and know how to talk to women. People speak English here so much better than Brazil, DR or Colombia that other black folks are flocking to.
South Africa is good to relocate but there will be crime and this is still a racist society. Difference is the black far out number the whites. And you, as an American, will be somewhat shielded from the issues native black South africans face. I suggest an 'in between' type of set up where you spend like 8 months in SA then 4 months across maybe the US and some other location.
Now onto SA women. SA is known for having some of the curviest if not curviest women in the world. Google 'Tits in Tops South Africa' and just follow that thread to see what I'm talking about. They are thick but you will see a lot of BBWs and SSBBWs, even if they have the shape (thick thighs, phat ass, big boobs), so just know that. But there are still a plethora of slim thick chicks out there.
With dating apps, the same rule applies in SA and in any other country. The best of the best women won't be there for long or usually aren't on there. The top tier chicks you'll usually just see on ground (malls, clubs, social venues etc). Africa is still largely boots on the ground type thing. Think about it, a 10/10 chick doesn't need to stay too long at a bar before someone chats them up.
I'm actually headed back to SA in a few months. I'd be happy to give you some pointers as well, PM me and we can exchange emails. If you read this SA thread / forum you'll see there was another Black american brother that went to SA for the first time after doing a lot of DR and Colombia I believe, dude said SA is the spot.
DgWarMyMan82
01-06-23, 01:37
Ahhh, a Passport Bro that is done with Brazil LOL. Just kidding my man. I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm also in the US and black outside of making good money, US offers less and less for us. African continent with good funds offers more in terms of quality of life.
South Africa I think you'll be good for, especially Joburg / Jozi. Very cosmopolitan and good infrastructure. Best of the West but the freedom of Africa. And you, as a black man, should do well granted you dress well, are in decent shape and know how to talk to women. People speak English here so much better than Brazil, DR or Colombia that other black folks are flocking to.
South Africa is good to relocate but there will be crime and this is still a racist society. Difference is the black far out number the whites. And you, as an American, will be somewhat shielded from the issues native black South africans face. I suggest an 'in between' type of set up where you spend like 8 months in SA then 4 months across maybe the US and some other location.
Now onto SA women. SA is known for having some of the curviest if not curviest women in the world. Google 'Tits in Tops South Africa' and just follow that thread to see what I'm talking about. They are thick but you will see a lot of BBWs and SSBBWs, even if they have the shape (thick thighs, phat ass, big boobs), so just know that. But there are still a plethora of slim thick chicks out there..Well, sad to say, I think I am done with Brazil once I leave here for SA. It was a nightmare getting situated here with all the bureaucracy and scams. Then after about 3 months, I was able to move out of Airbnb's into an apartment which was the biggest mistake. I moved into a beachfront condominium in Barra the Tijuca, the upscale area to the west of the tourist areas such as Copacabana. Anyway, the condominium was gated with armed security and cameras throughout the building and so I thought I was good. Well, I didn't notice until about 4 months later that several of my things were missing such as clothes, kitchen items, electronic accessories, et cetera. Once I realized that the condominium staff had been stealing from me then other things began to make sense. For example, I bought an air mattress when I first moved-in to hold me over until I could find a bed. Strangely, within 3 days the mattress was completely flat but at the time I thought it was due to poor quality. Moreover, someone intentionally poked it with a needle. I also thought things in my refrigerator were placed different from how I left them but was never really sure. What I later realized is they were tampering with my food and ice machine maker, basically attempting to poison me. Well, once I realized all this, I contacted the owner of the apartment who then played it off, saying that she'd never heard of anyone's apartment being robbed before. The she wanted to know who I thought was responsible which was very odd to me. When I confronted the condominium staff, they quoted things I told her in their counterargument, which made it obvious the entire situation was a setup. Long story short, I've basically had to stay inside for the last 8 months due to real concerns over what these people might attempt to do if I leave for an extended period. Besides that, I'm just exhausted with Brazil. I feel like you can't ever just relax here because there's always someone trying to run a scam.
Anyway, everything you said sounds great. It's definitely what I'm looking for. I'm aware and fine with the crime situation. It definitely won't be any worse than what I've had to deal with here in Brazil. The infrastructure is definitely what sold me. I like the new apartments around the Midrand area and the modern security such as biometrics entry and professionalized security staff. I'm also aware of the racism in SA but I don't think it'll be any worse than here in Brazil. And I'm almost sure if I do encounter any prejudice that it won't be anything close to the blatant hate that I've experienced here in Brazil. Just to put that into perspective, I've been traveling since 2003 with visits to more than 30 countries and more than 15 years living abroad. That said, Brazil is the most racist and shady country I've ever been to and there isn't even a close second. I honestly like the fact that SA isn't a hotspot for Passport Bros, mainly because the distance and flight time. I think places such as Brazil, Colombia, and DR have been mostly ruined because so many people have travelled to those countries over the years and created a certain stigma among the locals. I think it's to the point now that you can't really trust anything in these places because I hear similar horror stories about Colombia and DR as well.
Thanks for the suggestion on splitting time between SA and the states but I'm moving there fulltime. I'm from California and just don't have the energy to live between two places at this point, especially not with the distance between SA and the states. However, I do plan to travel around to other African countries once I get settled, seeing as Africa is the only continent that I haven't visited yet. I'll definitely send you a PM once I get closer to relocating there. I'm still a few months out from leaving Brazil. I still need a few months to figure out a plan to ship my things and to closeout everything here. After that, I'll have to go back to the states to do the visa process for permanent residence before I'm ready to relocate. Right now, I'm thinking that I won't be in SA until the 3rd quarter of 2023 at the earliest but definitely before the end of the year.
Brothers, I have a quick question regarding Summit and Royal Park in Johannesburg. What is the best time to go there? Or does it really matter? I'm asking because I would like to go over there during the day but I'm not sure if the selection of women will be where I want it to be at the time. I believe Summit says they're open starting at 10 am. Your thoughts? I've read back a good ways and I don't see any reports that speak to the time of day people went. Thanks.
Brothers, I have a quick question regarding Summit and Royal Park in Johannesburg. What is the best time to go there? Or does it really matter? I'm asking because I would like to go over there during the day but I'm not sure if the selection of women will be where I want it to be at the time. I believe Summit says they're open starting at 10 am. Your thoughts? I've read back a good ways and I don't see any reports that speak to the time of day people went. Thanks.The best time to go is about 9 or 10. That's when they got the most girls. With that said you can still find some good action in the day time.
Staying in Hatfield to collect a visit in one of the Consulates nearby, I was anticipating a subdued week, with perhaps finding something online -- but it wasn't necessary. There's a University, the town is full of girls, and guesthouses to take them. What they expect varies a lot, so probe pricing beforehand to prevent a surprise. And also, approach carefully out of sight of any guys, around which they act totally different. I'll be returning soon and looking forward to it this time. Eastwood's good for food and drink evenings.
The best time to go is about 9 or 10. That's when they got the most girls. With that said you can still find some good action in the day time.Got it. Thanks!
Staying in Hatfield to collect a visit in one of the Consulates nearby, I was anticipating a subdued week, with perhaps finding something online -- but it wasn't necessary. There's a University, the town is full of girls, and guesthouses to take them. What they expect varies a lot, so probe pricing beforehand to prevent a surprise. And also, approach carefully out of sight of any guys, around which they act totally different. I'll be returning soon and looking forward to it this time. Eastwood's good for food and drink evenings.Can you explain more about your time in Hatfield? Where were you finding the girls and what what were some of them asking for?
BJohnson2004
01-31-23, 16:17
QUESTION.
Any know of a Massage place where the girls might have a better chance of offering maybe Covered Oral BJ also (not looking for full sex per the rules we follow).
I prefer a place like a Spa or Massage studio but I could also visit an apartment. I tried search all the web site suggested here but there are so many unknowns, was hoping for a suggestion of someone that actually visited.
TRIP REPORT.
I did the Singa Studios right before Covid hit.
Very good, Full Touch all Nude, you can touch both.
BUT.
It was limited to Touching only nothing more.
Well worth it, you also get to massage the girl but can not insert into "the crack" just rub outside front.
Girl selections where amazing, you get what you pay for of course quality wise. Photos are real.
BONUS QUESTION.
Anyone also suggest one for Couples, a Man and a Women? Apartment near the CBD or V&A also good. There are so many on the web site, just can't figure out what is good. Looking for mature.
First thanks to everyone for the Joburg Intel regarding these two spots. I visited them both on the same night in mid January. I believe it was a Fri night. Took an Uber to Summit. The driver says he lives in the area so he was comfortable going. However, when you leave you must use one of the taxi waiting outside which I had no issue with. I arrived around 10 pm. I get inside and paid I believe a 50 rand entrance fee. Phat asses where in abundance just like I like them. A few beggars that I had no interest in but generally a decent line up if you like a nice phat ass, obviously. The place I guess is Joburg's version of a strip club. A few chicks offered me up to come back to there room but generally I saw what I would typically see in a strip club here at home accept a lot less tipping and "making it rain" which is great because I can't stand that shit. I had a few beers and stayed for maybe 2 hours but ultimately didn't see anything that got me going. Make sure to check out both areas if you go. There is a less crowded area of the club where girls are dancing in the back that's cool. There's also food back there which I wouldn't even dream of touching. I DO NOT eat at these type of spots. Anyway, after a few hours I decided to head out and check out Royal Park. Jumped in a taxi that was sitting outside. Car was a piece of shit but it didn't matter as Royal Park was prob only 5 min away.
Arrived at Royal Park maybe around midnight. I believe I was charged 50 rand again to get in. This place was much bigger and had significantly more girls. Ass everywhere and I liked the talent. Just from the one experience I def prefer Royal Park. There's just more talent there and they seem to be more to the point with the "hotel" right upstairs. This place is an ass man's dream. I grabbed prob that phattest ass I've ever hit and we went upstairs to her room. The room was borderline trash but that didn't matter much. I got some lazy head and hit her from the back for the rest of the time. I was maybe in there 15 min. She laughably laid on her back at first as if I was going to hit missionary. LOL! Come on let's be serious. With a truck ass like hers it would be just ridiculous for me to be in any other position besides doggie. Cost was 200 rand. I went back down and looked around for maybe 30 min and left.
Overall like I said I prefer Royal Park. A couple of things I will say. First, these places are in the hood, not the rap hood, but the fuckin hood, so keep your eyes open and stay alert. Just like you guys said I got in a taxi waiting right out front when I left. I'm not even really sure how safe that is as I've heard car jacking are not uncommon but maybe and hopefully they don't mess with the taxi drivers. Second, the primary costs involved with a night out at either of these spots is the transportation. The damn taxis are more than the girls. LOL! I believe my taxi back to my hotel was 300 rand. I mean from a USD perspective it's still dirt cheap so no big deal.
All in all good time. From my short experience in Joburg it seems like it there is PLENTY of opportunity to take down tons of chicks outside of the hobby. 99% of all other women I had conversation with were very friendly. Ie you'll get a lot of play if you just put forth a decent amount of effort. However, a spot like royal park is def a good place to have in your back pocket especially since it's so cheap.
I am visiting Johannesburg for work for the next month and would like to meet semi-pro or regular girls.
I will be staying in Sandton and was wondering if anyone here has any advice about how to use Instagram to meet girls and how to approach them.
I am also planning to check out NewsCafe in Rosebank and Sandton.
Additionally, if any members are in town, we can roll together.
I'm on a cruise and will be in these places the next few days.
Anything available? Incall only.
THANKS.
I am visiting Johannesburg for work for the next month and would like to meet semi-pro or regular girls.
I will be staying in Sandton and was wondering if anyone here has any advice about how to use Instagram to meet girls and how to approach them.
I am also planning to check out NewsCafe in Rosebank and .How to approach them? In person. Face to face. The advice would be: if you see a girl -- anywhere -- that you find attractive, that is a girl you would want to be in bed with: go right up and start talking to her. This is something you would do at home, right? South African girls are receptive, so if you know how to act like a man, just do it. Within a day you'll have one. BTW, you do not need another guy to be with you 🙄.
BJohnson2004
03-15-23, 01:27
I can confirm that the site massage co za is for real. I removed the periods in the domain name.
Thank you for those that sent me messages, you were spot on.
Lot to choose from. If you want make a fake phone number to get free access to the Adult and Therapies tab.
You can just make up your phone number when setting up an account trick is to get the right fake phone number account, is the right South Africa Country code like 27.
Then a phone like this format. 0636685228.
TIPS, Blacks that are not near the Marina are about half the price. White Girls near Marina are double and often don't offer extras.
With Aids high most are NOT doing Full Service so try for more Touching, BJ is also very hard to get but some might do it once your there so always ask again just in case but be nice.
For most areas visit before 7 PM before dark and Uber there.
There are some real good once out there I can confirm. As an added bonus some are really good at normal massages with bonus extras at the end.
Use What's Up and just ask for there Service and prices, they will tell you up front as it is legal there.
Some also work with Couples and come to your hotel, some only come to your hotel AFTER you see them one time at their location for a message with extras.
Better is Southern suburbs or one suburb away from City Bowl, use google maps to see Suburb names.
Two were super nice and seemed to really care and were not clock watchers, I won't give names. I was very happy with the site listing everyone.
QUESTION.
Any know of a Massage place where the girls might have a better chance of offering maybe Covered Oral BJ also (not looking for full sex per the rules we follow).
I prefer a place like a Spa or Massage studio but I could also visit an apartment. I tried search all the web site suggested here but there are so many unknowns, was hoping for a suggestion of someone that actually visited.
TRIP REPORT.
I did the Singa Studios right before Covid hit.
Very good, Full Touch all Nude, you can touch both.
BUT.
It was limited to Touching only nothing more.
Well worth it, you also get to massage the girl but can not insert into "the crack" just rub outside front.
Girl selections where amazing, you get what you pay for of course quality wise. Photos are real.
BONUS QUESTION.
Anyone also suggest one for Couples, a Man and a Women? Apartment near the CBD or V&A also good. There are so many on the web site, just can't figure out what is good. Looking for mature.
I'll keep this brief. I recently went over to the Saint in Sandton on a Thursday night. Arrived around 12:30/1 am. Place was pretty lively. Crowd was primarily Indian with some whites and blacks mixed in. Saw a nice black chick just standing at the bar. Told me she was waiting on her friend. Her friend showed and had a truck ass on her! At that point I wanted the friend and not her, but I didn't flip flop. Chatted for maybe 45 min, brought a few drinks, and eventually ended up at my apt. Right Before I put the meat in her she asked my if I could buy her a dress that she mentioned to me she was looking at earlier in the evening. I agreed to give her 1000 RND which I'm sure was too much. Won't happen again. The "semi pro" game is very active here so it's best to just be very clear in the beginning what's going on. Decent pu $$why. Nothing award winning. I also made the mistake of not having much cash on me so I had to do the walk of shame and walk down with her to my lobby the next morning and get in an uber to get cash. Another mistake that will not happen again. I'm staying in a pretty upscale building so I rather not come downstairs in the am with my guest. I just send them on their way in an uber. Plus, after putting her through the bedroom spin cycle, her washing off makeup, and her wig now being crooked it was obvious to anyone paying attention what the situation was.
I'll keep this brief. I recently went over to the Saint in Sandton on a Thursday night…..Thanks for the report. Anymore intel on your trip you could share? Spots / locations etc?
Went over to Royal Park recently on a Friday. Place was more crowded than I think I've ever seen it. I think most people in South Africa had just gotten paid that day. I was looking for the phattest bubbles in there. From my limited experience there now it seems like the best looking girls are not the "freelancers" but the ones that are "club girls". If you want to go around with them you take them in one of the cubicles right near the bar. They are on your right if you're facing the main stage. I pulled the trigger on one who had what was the fattest bubble in there that night and when I say phat I'm not talking about total mass because there were some there with a bigger ass. I'm talking more ass to size of body ratio. This chick was not fat. Cost was R100 to the club for the cubicle and R500 to her. Pretty decent session. Told her to just ride meat reverse while I sat down on the "couch". Only think was she didn't have the stamina to go like 30 min doing that. Kept taping out. That's the down side of the "club girls" is their not as dependent on the FS money so they don't seem to work as hard as the freelancers who you take upstairs.
I then waited about an hour and grabbed another club girl. R100 to the club and R600 to her. Similar look and performance. After I got tired of pounding her just had her jerk me off.
All and all not a bad trip there.
I went over to Summit after. I never used the rooms there. For some reason I just haven't had any interest in that. I looked into overnight takeout and the numbers I was getting generally ranged from as low as R1300 to as high as R3000. Can anyone here speak to the takeout numbers? Let me know.
Also, I don't remember any names.
it was obvious to anyone paying attention what the situation was.So what; they do it too. They are better at hiding.
generally ranged from as low as R1300 to as high as R3000. Can anyone here speak to the takeout numbers? Let me know. From my intel, an overnight sessions should be anywhere from R1500 to R2500 for most black WGs, not necessarily from the strip clubs. R3000 is on the higher side but I could possibly see that for the top tier women but even still, that's high for the strip club but not out of this world.
From my intel, an overnight sessions should be anywhere from R1500 to R2500 for most black WGs, not necessarily from the strip clubs. R3000 is on the higher side but I could possibly see that for the top tier women but even still, that's high for the strip club but not out of this world.Got it. Thanks!
I am in Jamaica. But I think the numbers you guys are quoting is high. $170 ,
$135 overnight african country. Kenya was like $40. Oh well guess I will find out the deal when I get there. Waiting for someone to show some ass LOL. Lets spice up this forum.
From my intel, an overnight sessions should be anywhere from R1500 to R2500 for most black WGs, not necessarily from the strip clubs. R3000 is on the higher side but I could possibly see that for the top tier women but even still, that's high for the strip club but not out of this world..
Please guys do yourselves a favour. Get out of the big cities and find any tavern outside of the city. Much more rewarding, better experience will be had not to mention, way cheaper. Legal aged girls will be more than willing to go with you for the night and longer. Way better quality girls than the city hardcore. Any tavern, you do not need the info, just ask a friendly local or your transport can be helpful.
Be adventurous, sensible, its quite safe, the locals will take care of the Novelty. You will make lots of friends.
Please guys do yourselves a favour. Get out of the big cities and find any tavern outside of the city. Much more rewarding, better experience will be had not to mention, way cheaper. Legal aged girls will be more than willing to go with you for the night and longer. Way better quality girls than the city hardcore. Any tavern, you do not need the info, just ask a friendly local or your transport can be helpful.
Be adventurous, sensible, its quite safe, the locals will take care of the Novelty. You will make lots of friends.Can you give us some more info about these taverns? Are there any you can recommend in the Gauteng area? Even better if there are links to pics and videos of these taverns. I'm guessing the taverns are like local bars / pubs.
I'm guessing the taverns are like local bars / pubs.Yes. Better in the rural areas where strangers are a novelty. It's been over twenty years since I went to any (Shebeens) bars, in the Gauteng province, I could not guide you. I mostly frequent Taverns in Kwazulu Natal and Mpumalanga provinces and I have had some wonderful experiences whenever I'm in SA. What does spring to mind is Alexandra, just north of Sandton, we used to go there during the bad old days when it was illegal to shag across the colour line LOL. I believe there are tours you can go on through the townships in and around Joberg, should be interesting. I also went to Shebeens in Soweto, Vosloorus and Daveyton, many years back now, had many a shag, got drunk and danced the night away. I also frequented townships around Durban such as Kwamashu, Umlazi and Chesterville. For coloured girls, Wentworth. Never was afraid of being adventurous, very rewarding to be quite honest.
Fortune favours the brave even with the mauling the Bear gave me yesterday, NYSE.
Excitedrod
06-08-23, 22:45
Had the thrill of visiting Cape Town for a month.
Most action I got was from the Red velvet website. There are plenty of misleading or misrepresenting photos, it's hit and miss whether you're going to get the girl in the glossy pics. Still I had a great time, I'm insane for big assed black women so was easily pleased.
Quite a few of the girls were Zulu from Eastern Cape. One Swaziland girl and Joburg girls. They all had great attitudes.
Lots of thick girls which I couldn't get enough of. But there are all kinds.
For ST, prices were ranging from 400 to 600 rand.
1 hour 700 - 1000.
I saw 3 SWs on Long street during the day. I didn't dare walk there alone at night (this time). They were opposite 102 Long st, quite average looking females.
I went to a strip club which had black girls (& other stunners) called Stilletos. They have a main stage where girls dance, but you can't sit by it and tip, it's too far away. I did a lap dance with a Nigerian hottie, she gave a great private show, probably ripped me off at 600 rand. She was quite a pushy sales woman to get more money, and got upset when I wanted another girl haha. Bish acted like we had became boyfriend-girlfriend. Got to love them.
There's another much more famous strip club called Mavericks, during the day I saw a sky-writer plane spell out the club name above Cape town!! Wth haha was I dreaming?!
I could only imagine the pandemonium if that stunt was pulled back in the West. Apparently that club has more white girls.
I had fun on the dating apps, I think there's lots of interested girls who will put out after going to a bar or restaurant. Their pics are often misleading! And dating isn't so cheap in Cape Town, so decided to stick to Red Velvet.
Two of the dating girls wanted money, one tried to get me to buy a 3000 Rand champagne deal at a club's VIP section, I later found out she was promoting the club. Anyway she was became a self-appointed on off girlfriend who stayed at my place even when I didn't offer.
Another date was with a slim Zimbabwe girl, it was expensive, she just kept ordering drinks, and she was strictly against putting out on the first date, I was frustrated. She actually offered me happy ending massages a few days later?! At least I stole a couple of ass grabs and some kissing.
Another date was with a girl from the townships, she offered to go back to my place, I happily obliged.
Happy mongering!
FictionalSpace
06-10-23, 21:23
Had a stellar experience with Blair at Lux Studios in Cape Town. Being very jet lagged and tight from a long flight, decided to get a massage. In all of my travels I've never had a tantric massage and decided this was the time. Booked via WhatsApp and headed over. Somewhat of an awkward entrance as you have to ask the building attendant to be let in so that you can ride the elevator, but no biggie.
Was greeted upon arrival and shown to the nicely appointed room. Blair then came in and escorted me to the shower. After I finished she led me to the room, disrobed, and gave an unbelievable one hour massage. Great conversation as well, but not so much that I couldn't relax. Tantric massage is absolutely something I will repeat. I opted for a fantastic CBJ finish though the menu had a range of choices. Highly enjoyed the mirrors in the room as well.
Another shower and I was out the door to bask in the afterglow. Damage was about 1200 if I remember correctly.
Recently returned from yet another knockout tour of Eastern SA, namely, Kwazulu Natal and Mpumalanga provinces. Hired a car which I hate to do, nevertheless this turned out cool this time having been screwed over by the car hire cowboys on previous occasions. Roads ranged from excellent to horrible potholed rural roads. Did several thousand kilometres and at roughly R22 a litre the final fuel bill was not too crazy. The real positive was not being pulled by the cops at all this trip, they must be staying home I guess, it also helps to travel at night, however this has its dangers with cattle and potholes on the dark road.
The women of SA are super hot and accommodating, being Umlungu (white) they love to introduce themselves to you, especially out in rural areas where they are way friendlier than the city dwellers. Went to any number of taverns, the weekends absolutely rock, its a wonderful experience. Poole competitions are played under the evening sky with very little light, literally hundreds of people spectating. Beer is sold by the quart 750 ML, R16 - R22 a bottle, real cheap. If you want a real African experience it does not get any more so than this, with music blasting out.
Out of interest, I met some African Americans who told me they intend settling in SA. Seems quite a number are visiting the country. The Rand has been put under enormous stress lately so very favourable exchange rates are to be had by foreigners. The Governments cosy relations with China and Russia appear to be putting pressure on the Rand. Electricity outages, load shedding, is a complete disaster with power loss for about 2 hrs every day.
However, SA is still a wonderful country to come home to as long as one overlooks the faults. Certainly the unexplored gem by all on this board with so much to do and experience and above all the hot SA women experience awaits. My advice though. Get out of the cities and the lose the hardcore. Plenty of sweeties to be met and experienced out in the sticks.
My Man! Once you said Boosy Zar I knew you were a like minded brother like me SA is "The spot" for thick women shaped like Cherokee d'Ass, Ms. Cleo (you know where I'm going with this LOL). Funny thing is I'm planning a trip to Sosua in a few months as well and I've been doing my research.
Anyway, I was was in SA about this time last year so my knowledge is still fresh. This will be a long post but I want to make sure I point you in the right direction. You're going to have a great time if thick, big booty women is your preference. I'm even planning a trip next year to hit some spots I didn't get a chance to last time LOL. I'll break down my advice into sections for you to reference.
1. Where to Stay.
2. SA Talent..I know it's a few years old, but that's a great post.
I'm going to Johannesburg and Cape Town next month for the first time. I'm going to sign up to Escort South Africa or Red Velvet. I presume when I do sign up that I'll get more of a profile on the ladies and it will list prices and specialties etc?
Excitedrod
08-10-23, 21:21
Black girl paradise at The Summit!
There are scores of scantily clad black honies in this club.
I was in heaven! Went twice and def going back.
There is a large main stage area with two long bars and then a smaller room with girls dancing and offering lap dances.
You can take girls upstairs if they have a room for 400 Rand short time or they hire a small booth.
Even the food there was good.
I went solo and it was quite safe inside, good vibes actually and the girls don't hassle, quite the opposite, they are a lot of fun!!
It is not safe outside at all. That can't be stated enough. Unless you're Rambo, you should Uber in. But don't try to catch an Uber out! I tried and ended up in a car chase flying over speed humps and mounting a gutter on the way to the cop shop. So just take the taxis outside the club at the end of the night (even if they charge double). There is literally a taxi gang ready to attack Uber drivers who try and pickup rides there.
The other black girl strip club is called the Royal Park Hotel which apparently is even better for girls and professionalism. And I saw own which is likely white girls in Randburg!
Black girl paradise at The Summit!
There are scores of scantily clad black honies in this club.
I was in heaven! Went twice and def going back.
There is a large main stage area with two long bars and then a smaller room with girls dancing and offering lap dances.
You can take girls upstairs if they have a room for 400 Rand short time or they hire a small booth.
Even the food there was good.
I went solo and it was quite safe inside, good vibes actually and the girls don't hassle, quite the opposite, they are a lot of fun!!
It is not safe outside at all. That can't be stated enough. Unless you're Rambo, you should Uber in. But don't try to catch an Uber out! I tried and ended up in a car chase flying over speed humps and mounting a gutter on the way to the cop shop. So just take the taxis outside the club at the end of the night (even if they charge double). There is literally a taxi gang ready to attack Uber drivers who try and pickup rides there.
The other black girl strip club is called the Royal Park Hotel which apparently is even better for girls and professionalism. And I saw own which is likely white girls in Randburg!Sounds like a good night, apart from the car chase: the.
Will I get in in shorts and a t shirt? That's my usual holiday attire. If not I better bring a pair of trousers:
Will I get in in shorts and a t shirt? LOL, It's Joburg and still winter, zero Celsius at night, most definitely they will not allow you entrance, you could try though even they have their standards LOL.
LOL, It's Joburg and still winter, zero Celsius at night, most definitely they will not allow you entrance, you could try though even they have their standards LOL.I had a look on their website..
"Dress code from 6:00 pm – Trendy / Smart / Casual (NO caps or flops)".
They open at 10 am.
Sounds like a good night, apart from the car chase: the.
Will I get in in shorts and a t shirt? That's my usual holiday attire. If not I better bring a pair of trousers:Still chilly in SA right now. Low of high 40's / low 50's F. In the day it get's to mid-70's F. Just wear some trousers, a decent polo shirt and some closed toed shoes and you'll be fine. Many places don't allow shorts, just be on the safe side and wear trousers.
I'm going to sign up to Escort South Africa or Red Velvet. I presume when I do sign up that I'll get more of a profile on the ladies and it will list prices and specialties etc?When you sign up for gold membership, you get to view all the ladies profiles and pics. Get the higher res views and the ability to save ladies to your favorites list There's also a Gold member forum where you can chat with other gold members. They speak on price and specialties.
If you want prices, you'll have to call the ladies.
Sounds like a good night, apart from the car chase: the.
Will I get in in shorts and a t shirt? That's my usual holiday attire. If not I better bring a pair of trousers:I've been there plenty of times. You can basically wear whatever you want. There is no dress code that I've ever known of. However, like many have already mentioned because of the nighttime temps you prob won't see anyone in there in short.
Hi, if someone want to join me to explore the mongering-scene in Cape Town during that time, please PM me. Also openminded for advise regarding massage parlours (not escorts) but indoor as I prefer not have someone in my apartment. Thanks in advance.
Hi, if someone want to join me to explore the mongering-scene in Cape Town during that time, please PM me. Also openminded for advise regarding massage parlours (not escorts) but indoor as I prefer not have someone in my apartment. Thanks in advance.The scene in Cape Town is pure trash. If you like paying insane prices for subpar service you'll enjoy.
The scene in Cape Town is pure trash. If you like paying insane prices for subpar service you'll enjoy.I started conversations with some Tinder-girls in Cape Town. Did you made any experience?
Hi, did anyone tried to fuck one of the ladies advertising here?
https://capetown.adsafrica.co.za/category/65/page/2/.
And are the prices correct? Some offer one hour for 400 Rand, (around 20 Euro / Dollar).
I tried to look for websites for massage parlours, without success. Any advise?
Hi, did anyone tried to fuck one of the ladies advertising here?
https://capetown.adsafrica.co.za/category/65/page/2/.
And are the prices correct? Some offer one hour for 400 Rand, (around 20 Euro / Dollar).
I tried to look for websites for massage parlours, without success. Any advise?400 Rand for an hour isn't unheard of but the quality might not be there. At least maybe not for Cape Town. For smaller cities, sure, that's fine. I've used AdsAfrica but the pics may not be the best representation of who you'll be seeing. Definitely a high chance for bait and swtich.
For massage parlours, google search 'redvelvet SA escort' or 'ESA south africa escort' both are escort listing sites and have massage parlors listed as well.
For the big booties and thick ladies. SA is still top. Prices are still reasonable even if the actual P4 P scene isn't as "in your face" as other African countries e. G. Kenya.
Pound for pound, the thickest women are here.
Traveling to Cape town in a weeks time and need your expert suggestions for mongering and exploring with cautions. First time to CT, your suggestions are well appreciated.
- Traveling locally?
- Roaming late evenings are safe?
- Popular bars / pubs or night clubs to explore.
- Any good pickup points?
- SPAs providing extras.
- No discrimination, beyond black girls, is there any international clubs or pubs or escorts areas.
- Asian attracted clubs or massage spas.
After my visit will post a detail one. Please suggest.
Traveling to Cape town in a weeks time and need your expert suggestions for mongering and exploring with cautions. First time to CT, your suggestions are well appreciated.
- Traveling locally?
- Roaming late evenings are safe?
- Popular bars / pubs or night clubs to explore.
- Any good pickup points?
- SPAs providing extras.
- No discrimination, beyond black girls, is there any international clubs or pubs or escorts areas.
- Asian attracted clubs or massage spas.
After my visit will post a detail one. Please suggest.For non-pro girls, I would suggest you get on the dating apps. I had a lot of luck with Tinder, Bumble and the like, finding many black girls, looking to escape the townships or financial hardships. You'll have to put your own pics and see what you get. I had hits in JNB, DUR, and CPT. I even flew an 19 yr old college student from JNB to CPT, paid for STI tests and had a grand old time, and all she wanted was to be wined and dined in CPT. Never asked for money and I just bought dresses I liked her in at the malls. Some will ask for R300 after a date and fuck, as well as Bolt fees coming out from the townships. Usually moms bored with kid at home and looking for escape and a bit of cash. Just be smart and meet for coffee nearby your place to make sure she's alone and register her as a guest with ID, if you're staying at a hotel. That's for colored and black girls.
White girls aren't looking for easy cash as much, but good and "different" company, and they are a lot less agreeable to outside their own race. I assume from your screen name, you are East Asian and unfortunately there are many stereotypes. CPT is the more international of the big cities, so I'd hit the escort sites. Many look older than the site pics, but if that's what you want, you'll have to pay.
Safety is a bit more complex. The clubs are in general are safe, just book your Uber Black or minimally X, with safe rated drivers. I don't suggest you drive at night while drinking. Nor walk alone too far from a crowd.
Here's an example of a township girl looking for a good time and a bit of cash, 24 yr old mom of 1:
For non-pro girls, I would suggest you get on the dating apps. I had a lot of luck with Tinder, Bumble and the like, finding many black girls, looking to escape the townships or financial hardships. You'll have to put your own pics and see what you get. I had hits in JNB, DUR, and CPT. I even flew an 19 yr old college student from JNB to CPT, paid for STI tests and had a grand old time, and all she wanted was to be wined and dined in CPT. Never asked for money and I just bought dresses I liked her in at the malls. Some will ask for R300 after a date and fuck, as well as Bolt fees coming out from the townships. Usually moms bored with kid at home and looking for escape and a bit of cash. Just be smart and meet for coffee nearby your place to make sure she's alone and register her as a guest with ID, if you're staying at a hotel. That's for colored and black girls.
White girls aren't looking for easy cash as much, but good and "different" company, and they are a lot less agreeable to outside their own race. I assume from your screen name, you are East Asian and unfortunately there are many stereotypes. CPT is the more international of the big cities, so I'd hit the escort sites. Many look older than the site pics, but if that's what you want, you'll have to pay.
Safety is a bit more complex. The clubs are in general are safe, just book your Uber Black or minimally X, with safe rated drivers. I don't suggest you drive at night while drinking. Nor walk alone too far from a crowd.
Here's an example of a township girl looking for a good time and a bit of cash, 24 yr old mom of 1:Thank you for this helpfull information. Regarding STI-Tests: Where did you got the tests? How quick did you get the resuilt?
For non-pro girls, I would suggest you get on the dating apps. I had a lot of luck with Tinder, Bumble and the like, finding many black girls, looking to escape the townships or financial hardships.
White girls aren't looking for easy cash as much, but good and "different" company, and they are a lot less agreeable to outside their own race. I assume from your screen name, you are East Asian and unfortunately there are many stereotypes.
Safety is a bit more complex. The clubs are in general are safe, just book your Uber Black or minimally X, with safe rated drivers. I don't suggest you drive at night while drinking. Nor walk alone too far from a crowd.
Here's an example of a township girl looking for a good time and a bit of cash, 24 yr old mom of 1:Thank you, for the update.
I just finished the trip, and unfortunately I just read your post. My report goes as per my questions in my previous post are:
- Traveling locally?
Not at all a problem to explore it locally but a bit caution when exploring it. I went on a hike to Table Mountain on early morning in a weekday this week in a windy day solo in the George route, its just amazing hike and return the Cable car was not operating and I had to walk back and return to the Cable Car entrance route. It took 4 and half hours which is worth. There was an advantage gone first alone to learn something which helped me on the next day, I was in a sightseeing group to Cape Hope trip. I met Scottish girl I would say mid 30's and we connected and started chatting and finally came to know that she wants to hike but due to local advice she was scare to hike alone. Second time, third day hiked with her again on the return we went out to a bar and spent a couple hours and our 100 minutes hike given a lot of space to understand each other to meet her in the evening with more comfortably. For me she was 42nd nationality girl fucked and I have a goal to visit 100 countries and try 100 country girls She was not that beautiful but really a good company. We came late night her room (she invited) and rest is history for one hour, its a really bliss to have such experience in life. Exchanged the numbers to meet again when there is a chance.
- Roaming late evenings are safe?
There was no issues roaming most common areas and just be cautions. Thats all. Uber is best and try not dominate or interact with drivers and always respect and pay tips.
- Popular bars / pubs or night clubs to explore.
A lot in the long street and mostly black and I am not interested and there are many areas where you can easily get girls who are not my type to try. I tired avoiding it.
- Any good pickup points?
Long street is the area to pickup local girls and black girls for cheaper price starting 500 R with high risk. I avoided it. But, second day morning met two colleage girls where hanging out in a cafe connected but never get a chance to hangout in a room. Another area, Mora Gelatin Ice cream shop (most white girls hangout here) which is in the Long street area met a three local white South African women, out of three one was quite beautiful and tired all possible ways to connect and connected and had a great discussion, we agreed to meet for a dinner in a fine dining restaurant. She is young around early 20's. We met the fourth day invited to my hotel in the Tower area and try to huddle with her a bit initially she was ok, after a few minutes trying to avoid, I respected and we went out for dinner in an Indian fine restaurant named Thalis. Food was good but not great but expensive, 1100 R for two folks.
- SPAs providing extras.
One Yuan went for a proper Thai massage and had a good one. A black girl give a good massage extras were there and try to attract.
- No discrimination, beyond black girls, is there any international clubs or pubs or escorts areas.
- Asian attracted clubs or massage spas.
Before leaving went to one Singa Executive Studio in the loop area. I went early around 9. 45 am and asked the manager to meet the girls and met one by one the room, and finally chosen Nicole (Half Filipino and German) She is around 5. 6" foot height, weight around 60 kg and strong boobs, solid butts I opt mutual massage which is each other respect to go ahead any level. There is a board say no oral and no sex allowed I didn't ask any extras but its possible. I spent 10 minutes discussing about her and her future plans and we connected well. She likes the initial set and respect.
Round 1: Its foreplay, huddled a lot and with safe distance of our private parts both are nudes on the executive massage table and room is just amazing. After a few minutes decided to do handjob in a milking cow way I actually lied like a cow and she played a role of Mia Khalifa way to do a hand job after three strong minutes "SPLASH" she cleaned my tool.
Round 2 : Body to body massage this time front side and after a few minutes my tool again came up and this time her tits where the place to do the cumming, after 7 to 8 minutes came on her and myself. She asked me that would I go for one more time to release the cum.
Round 3: I had 14 minutes left and I said yes to try. I asked her go use her feet to give a good feet job which you can see how she is going to sit in-front. Initially she given a good sensual touches in and around tool then started feet job. It took more than 14 minutes and I don't want give up after extra 3 minutes a few drops came out and I was completely tired.
Gave good tips and took a shower and left the place around 11.10 am. Its a real Kamasutra experience. I would love to come back in the future.
BTW: I am not a chinese Just having an username!
Cape town is amazing and love to come back to explore more, amazing nature, lots of places to explore, hell a lot of places to eat and hang out and finally fucking is great if you know how and where to do.
Play safe!
Thank you for this helpfull information. Regarding STI-Tests: Where did you got the tests? How quick did you get the resuilt?For STD / STI tests, there are plenty of private clinics which do urine / blood tests. I found one in Sandton and in Cape Town, there was one in Rondebosch. For blood work in JNB, they said I had to pay an extra R600 for a doctor's consult to get that test. Not needed for the one in CPT, so I think I got conned. Can't remember their names, since I found them on Google. They took 48 hrs for the full panel results. I just keep the condoms on but didn't want to get HSV etc. For girls you want to fresh, I'd pay for the swab / smear tests, which was around R5000 if I'm not wrong. Hope this helps.
For STD / STI tests, there are plenty of private clinics which do urine / blood tests. I found one in Sandton and in Cape Town, there was one in Rondebosch. For blood work in JNB, they said I had to pay an extra R600 for a doctor's consult to get that test. Not needed for the one in CPT, so I think I got conned. Can't remember their names, since I found them on Google. They took 48 hrs for the full panel results. I just keep the condoms on but didn't want to get HSV etc. For girls you want to fresh, I'd pay for the swab / smear tests, which was around R5000 if I'm not wrong. Hope this helps.Thank you! Much appreciated. I will write a report after my return.
For STD / STI tests, there are plenty of private clinics which do urine / blood tests. I found one in Sandton and in Cape Town, there was one in Rondebosch. For blood work in JNB, they said I had to pay an extra R600 for a doctor's consult to get that test. Not needed for the one in CPT, so I think I got conned. Can't remember their names, since I found them on Google. They took 48 hrs for the full panel results. I just keep the condoms on but didn't want to get HSV etc. For girls you want to fresh, I'd pay for the swab / smear tests, which was around R5000 if I'm not wrong. Hope this helps.Thank you. I will write a report after my return.
BurnMax2007
12-13-23, 13:51
I will be in Johannesburg for a short trip from December 13 - 17, staying in Rosebank. Please contact me if someone would like to meet up sometime for a drink.
I will be in Cape Town from December 25 to January 9. Please contact me if someone would like to meet up for a drink etc.
I will be in Cape Town from December 25 to January 9. Please contact me if someone would like to meet up for a drink etc.Over Christmas I spent two weeks in Cape Town. Using Tinder was helpful. I hooked up with 3 girls, looks between 7 and 9. Damage: Inviting them for dinner and drinks. And I payed the UBER for their ride back home when they didn't slept over night. Their were a few matches of hockers. I asked them, how much they want to get for one hour service. It varied from 500 to 2000 Rand. I only took one for 500 Rand. Good service.
I am from India and this was a month long trip to South Africa (mostly between Capetown and Johannesburg). I am pretty bad at documenting stuff, but thought of giving it a try after a long time. Hope it helps some people. Will list down the places where I visited with a brief description. In case someone wants more information, will be happy to respond.
Johannesburg -.
FetishHeavenSA (in Sandton) - They organise swinger and kink parties but have no icebreaking between audience. Most couples do not mingle. Single men can just watch and very occasionally play. There is a lady who can play with you at a cost of 700 rands. (https://www.fetishhavensa.co.za).
https://www.*********** - Unfortunately I am unable to open this site being back to India. But I found one of the cheapest and best options via this (unfortunately on my last day in SA). It is a flat with Thai women and you only need to pay 700 rands for an hour of session. I got and amazing BJ with CIM and came in 5 minutes and then relaxed and got an ordinary massage for the rest of the time. Excellent service. Will definitely want to go again whenever I am there. Her digits end in 1386. There are many other options available here as well. Location is Lotus street gallo manor sandton but you need to go after taking an appointment via WhatsApp with the lady.
Euphoria Sensual Massage. Went there twice. Took Misty and Luna as I am into petite women. Got FS from Misty. Massage costs 60 min mutual touch & body to body 1395 rands. I paid 1000 rand extra for the FS. It was on the higher side but quite decent. Luna did not give an FS though I did go down on her.
CapeTown -.
Casakink - https://www.casakinkza.com/ - This place hosts one of the most inclusive kink parties. Entry is usually between 150 -350 rands. Here you will meet fellow kinksters and will need to socialise and find partners for yourself. Being open and talkative helps.
Lisa's Lounge (https://lizaslounge.com) - A swingers club where anyone is allowed. Hosts parties twice every week (Friday and Saturday). Again you need to vibe with people and can have a good day there. Single men are also allowed. Cost is 350/400 rands.
Interesting thing about Casakink and FetishHeavenSA is that if you do not have a space to play you can rent a room here to play with your partner on an hourly basis. Quite safe and cheap.
I hope this helps.
I am from India and this was a month long trip to South Africa (mostly between Capetown and Johannesburg). I am pretty bad at documenting stuff, but thought of giving it a try after a long time. Hope it helps some people. Will list down the places where I visited with a brief description. In case someone wants more information, will be happy to respond.
Johannesburg -.
FetishHeavenSA (in Sandton) - They organise swinger and kink parties but have no icebreaking between audience. Most couples do not mingle. Single men can just watch and very occasionally play. There is a lady who can play with you at a cost of 700 rands. (https://www.fetishhavensa.co.za).
https://www.*********** - Unfortunately I am unable to open this site being back to India. But I found one of the cheapest and best options via this (unfortunately on my last day in SA). It is a flat with Thai women and you only need to pay 700 rands for an hour of session. I got and amazing BJ with CIM and came in 5 minutes and then relaxed and got an ordinary massage for the rest of the time. Excellent service. Will definitely want to go again whenever I am there. Her digits end in 1386. There are many other options available here as well. Location is Lotus street gallo manor sandton but you need to go after taking an appointment via WhatsApp with the lady.
Euphoria Sensual Massage. Went there twice. Took Misty and Luna as I am into petite women. Got FS from Misty. Massage costs 60 min mutual touch & body to body 1395 rands. I paid 1000 rand extra for the FS. It was on the higher side but quite decent. Luna did not give an FS though I did go down on her.
CapeTown -.
Casakink - https://www.casakinkza.com/ - This place hosts one of the most inclusive kink parties. Entry is usually between 150 -350 rands. Here you will meet fellow kinksters and will need to socialise and find partners for yourself. Being open and talkative helps.
Lisa's Lounge (https://lizaslounge.com) - A swingers club where anyone is allowed. Hosts parties twice every week (Friday and Saturday). Again you need to vibe with people and can have a good day there. Single men are also allowed. Cost is 350/400 rands.
Interesting thing about Casakink and FetishHeavenSA is that if you do not have a space to play you can rent a room here to play with your partner on an hourly basis. Quite safe and cheap.
I hope this helps.Good info. Can you write that second place out in code? It's hidden here.
Thelonoius
03-12-24, 15:12
Hi guys,
I was recently on a busy trip in Johannesburg. Here is my review:
I was staying at the Protea Balalaika hotel in Sandton. No problem to walk to Mandela Square in the day time At night, even though I was not worried, the hotel staff strongly advised me to avoid walking alone in the street and to take an Uber, even for a few dozen meters.
Hotels in the area are usually guest friendly. On my previous trips, I stayed at the the Vinci, the Sandton Sun, the Leonardo or even the Michelangelo when it was still open and I never had a problem getting a girl or 2 to my room.
The best place to find freelancers in Sandton at night is the News Cafe (I picked 2 girls from Swaziland for the the night; 1000 ZAR each). Some can be found on in Hard Rock but on some occasions, the management tend to not allow lonely foreign black girls (Zambian, Zimbabweain, .) in their premises. Some are waiting for customers on Nelson Mandela Square at night but I've rarely spotted a hottie there.
The prices they ask can sometimes be outrageous (2000 short time, 6000 for the night). It's quite easy to negotiate and bring the price down to 1500 or 2000 for the night.
Sandton is safe during the day. However, be careful of scams attempts.
The Lollipop Lounge.
It's a small club located in Randburg in the middle of nowhere. Super friendly place. A dozen dancers of all races. Some are really hot. Nice place to have a good time. Entry is 100 ZAR.
The Palace.
A very nice club in Rivonia. A few familiar faces work here: the former manager of Summit club and few dancers as well. I don't know igf the club is officially tied to Summit or if the people have simply moved. Mainly black dancers. Most of them are very sexy. 100 ZAR for the entry. Drinks are rather cheap but girls can be pricey (I've heard up to 4000 ZAR). I had good time the premises with a former Summit dancer that I used to know for 500 ZAR.
The Summit club.
Located in Hillbrow. The club is safe but the neighborhood not. Ubers are not welcome (drop off is ok but some drivers will let you at the McDonalds). A taxi ride to Sandton will cost you 300 ZAR; 100 to the train station if you want to go back with the Gautrain.
Entrance is 50 ZAR before 4 pm And 100 after. Big stage with nice shows. Dancers are available for "private shows" in booths. Usually, everything is going well but I had a bad experience with a dancer from Congo called Sweetness. The girl had an infection and her pussy smelled like rotten fish. My advice: ask the price beforehand and don't assume that all girls are ok for 500 ZAR. This will save you headaches like I experienced with that girl who wanted 1000 ZAR. Nevertheless, bear in mind that most dancers charge you less than 500.
Some girls have also a room in the premises and are usually cheaper (200 to 500 ZAR).
The Royal Park.
My favourite place. 100 ZAR for entry at night. It's also located in Hillbrow and they have the same attitude towards Uber drivers.
The place has usually a decent selection of girls. Some gems can be found here. I had a 19 yo girl from Mozambique for 200 ZAR in her private room. They have also cubicles downstairs if you decide to go with a dancer. Funny to see the DJ that used to work at Summit. Some former Summit dancers are working here too now.
It seems that all the Asian girls have left the place now.
I hope you enjoyed.
If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask.
Hi guys,
I was recently on a busy trip in Johannesburg. Here is my review:
I was staying at the Protea Balalaika hotel in Sandton. No problem to walk to Mandela Square in the day time At night, even though I was not worried, the hotel staff strongly advised me to avoid walking alone in the street and to take an Uber, even for a few dozen meters.
Hotels in the area are usually guest friendly. On my previous trips, I stayed at the the Vinci, the Sandton Sun, the Leonardo or even the Michelangelo when it was still open and I never had a problem getting a girl or 2 to my room.
The best place to find freelancers in Sandton at night is the News Cafe (I picked 2 girls from Swaziland for the the night; 1000 ZAR each). Some can be found on in Hard Rock but on some occasions, the management tend to not allow lonely foreign black girls (Zambian, Zimbabweain, .) in their premises. Some are waiting for customers on Nelson Mandela Square at night but I've rarely spotted a hottie there.
The prices they ask can sometimes be outrageous (2000 short time, 6000 for the night). It's quite easy to negotiate and bring the price down to 1500 or 2000 for the night.
Sandton is safe during the day. However, be careful of scams attempts.
The Lollipop Lounge.
It's a small club located in Randburg in the middle of nowhere. Super friendly place. A dozen dancers of all races. Some are really hot. Nice place to have a good time. Entry is 100 ZAR.
The Palace.
A very nice club in Rivonia. A few familiar faces work here: the former manager of Summit club and few dancers as well. I don't know igf the club is officially tied to Summit or if the people have simply moved. Mainly black dancers. Most of them are very sexy. 100 ZAR for the entry. Drinks are rather cheap but girls can be pricey (I've heard up to 4000 ZAR). I had good time the premises with a former Summit dancer that I used to know for 500 ZAR.
The Summit club.
Located in Hillbrow. The club is safe but the neighborhood not. Ubers are not welcome (drop off is ok but some drivers will let you at the McDonalds). A taxi ride to Sandton will cost you 300 ZAR; 100 to the train station if you want to go back with the Gautrain.
Entrance is 50 ZAR before 4 pm And 100 after. Big stage with nice shows. Dancers are available for "private shows" in booths. Usually, everything is going well but I had a bad experience with a dancer from Congo called Sweetness. The girl had an infection and her pussy smelled like rotten fish. My advice: ask the price beforehand and don't assume that all girls are ok for 500 ZAR. This will save you headaches like I experienced with that girl who wanted 1000 ZAR. Nevertheless, bear in mind that most dancers charge you less than 500.
Some girls have also a room in the premises and are usually cheaper (200 to 500 ZAR).
The Royal Park.
My favourite place. 100 ZAR for entry at night. It's also located in Hillbrow and they have the same attitude towards Uber drivers.
The place has usually a decent selection of girls. Some gems can be found here. I had a 19 yo girl from Mozambique for 200 ZAR in her private room. They have also cubicles downstairs if you decide to go with a dancer. Funny to see the DJ that used to work at Summit. Some former Summit dancers are working here too now.
It seems that all the Asian girls have left the place now.
I hope you enjoyed.
If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask.Good info. Thanks for the update!
I am from India and this was a month long trip to South Africa (mostly between Capetown and Johannesburg). I am pretty bad at documenting stuff, but thought of giving it a try after a long time. Hope it helps some people. Will list down the places where I visited with a brief description. In case someone wants more information, will be happy to respond.
Johannesburg -.
FetishHeavenSA (in Sandton) - They organise swinger and kink parties but have no icebreaking between audience. Most couples do not mingle. Single men can just watch and very occasionally play. There is a lady who can play with you at a cost of 700 rands. (https://www.fetishhavensa.co.za).
https://www.*********** - Unfortunately I am unable to open this site being back to India. But I found one of the cheapest and best options via this (unfortunately on my last day in SA). It is a flat with Thai women and you only need to pay 700 rands for an hour of session. I got and amazing BJ with CIM and came in 5 minutes and then relaxed and got an ordinary massage for the rest of the time. Excellent service. Will definitely want to go again whenever I am there. Her digits end in 1386. There are many other options available here as well. Location is Lotus street gallo manor sandton but you need to go after taking an appointment via WhatsApp with the lady.
Euphoria Sensual Massage. Went there twice. Took Misty and Luna as I am into petite women. Got FS from Misty. Massage costs 60 min mutual touch & body to body 1395 rands. I paid 1000 rand extra for the FS. It was on the higher side but quite decent. Luna did not give an FS though I did go down on her.
CapeTown -.
Casakink - https://www.casakinkza.com/ - This place hosts one of the most inclusive kink parties. Entry is usually between 150 -350 rands. Here you will meet fellow kinksters and will need to socialise and find partners for yourself. Being open and talkative helps.
Lisa's Lounge (https://lizaslounge.com) - A swingers club where anyone is allowed. Hosts parties twice every week (Friday and Saturday). Again you need to vibe with people and can have a good day there. Single men are also allowed. Cost is 350/400 rands.
Interesting thing about Casakink and FetishHeavenSA is that if you do not have a space to play you can rent a room here to play with your partner on an hourly basis. Quite safe and cheap.
I hope this helps.Great report. I'm definitely planning to visit Fetish Haven.
Can you elaborate further on the issue of "not having space to play and being able to book a room".
Are you saying that others will be having space whilst others don't and do people play in full view of others? I'm lost here.
Welcome to Fetish Haven SA!
Fetish Haven SA is a fetish club / venue and kinky bnb. A safe space created for all lifestyles to be embraced, regardless of colour, size or sexual preferences.
During weekdays, our club operates strictly by appointment for hourly fantasy or dungeon rentals as well as overnight stays and plays. In the week we have professional fantasy facilitators and resident Dominatrix 'Mistress Cleo' is available for sessions or workshops. Over weekends (Fridays & Saturdays) we have different fetish, swinger, lifestyle, and BDSM events that allow you to connect and socialise with like-minded kinksters.
Every month we have a taboo party. This is where we embrace a specific kink that most would frown upon. Perverse and Weirdly Wonderful is the way to go.
Our invitation only events are truly an experience not to miss out on. Extravaganza meets kink and Entertainment!
Fetish Haven SA is all about celebrating our kinks, fetishes and fantasies, regardless of what they might be in an amazing fully equipped and stocked venue, with NO judgement!
Situated in Wynberg, Sandton in Johannesburg.
Fetish Haven is hidden between industial Factories and buildings offering the ultimate discretion and safety.
24/7 Security with ample indoor parking guarantee's peace of mind while you indulge and experience your alternative lifestyle.
No matter what your fetish or kink is, At Fetish Haven, we pride ourselves by embracing and respecting every kind of lifestyle choice.
Safe, Sane and Consensual plays are proudly enforced & encouraged!
May this be the start of an amazing journey of self exploration, connection and discovery.
Fetish Haven and its Affiliates are proud supporters of Human Equality and Dignity regardless of race, gender, Orientation, Sexual preference or identification. We embrace all people from any aspect of life.
Went to Naughty 40's yesterday in Cape Town CBD. First time I have been there in a few years.
ZAR 1500 for 1 hour, ZAR 1200 for 30 minutes.
Place opens between 11 am and 4 pm, Mon-Sat. Ladies have 2 shifts. Until 8 pm, then second shift arrives. So I recommend arriving 7 pm to see both shifts.
There were 6 girls there at 6 pm on a Wednesday evening.
Rooms are pretty good. I am jsut sad to see that Embassy Club seems to have gone. Was a much bigger venue and with much more choice.
Thelonoius
04-21-24, 22:27
The information in the post below was taken from my trip in November 2023.
At the time, the management of the club had just changed and we could already notice a certain repercussion in the attitude of the girls. Unfortunately, things got worse. The good days of the Summit are now behind us. The atmosphere is deteriorating sharply following recent changes in girls' working conditions. We can see that the girls are no longer happy working here because they earn almost nothing!
The prices I gave in the post below are no longer valid with the exception of the price of entry and taxis.
Concerning girls:
For dancers, a 30-minute session (15 in practice; you'll se why) will cost you a minimum of 1500 ZAR for the girl + an additional 100 ZAR (80 for the rental of the booth + 20 for 1 condom) to be paid at cashier. There is also a good chance that the girl will ask you to pay in advance for her services; which increases the risk that it will eject you after 15 minutes.
For freelancers, the rate starts at 700 but it's possible to negotiate and drop the price to 500.
Also note that the dancers are no longer as motivated to do extras and are content with one or two sex sessions per shift.
In short, I no longer recommend this club at all. I will write a slightly longer article giving more details.
The Summit club.
Located in Hillbrow. The club is safe but the neighborhood not. Ubers are not welcome (drop off is ok but some drivers will let you at the McDonalds). A taxi ride to Sandton will cost you 300 ZAR; 100 to the train station if you want to go back with the Gautrain.
Entrance is 50 ZAR before 4 pm And 100 after. Big stage with nice shows. Dancers are available for "private shows" in booths. Usually, everything is going well but I had a bad experience with a dancer from Congo called Sweetness. The girl had an infection and her pussy smelled like rotten fish. My advice: ask the price beforehand and don't assume that all girls are ok for 500 ZAR. This will save you headaches like I experienced with that girl who wanted 1000 ZAR. Nevertheless, bear in mind that most dancers charge you less than 500.
Some girls have also a room in the premises and are usually cheaper (200 to 500 ZAR).
Thelonoius
04-21-24, 23:17
As promised, here is a more comprehensive report regarding the Summit Club in Jozzy.
This report is based on my personal feelings during my recent visits in early April 2024 compared to the numerous visits I have made there over the past 15 years. And of course, I took into account the feedback of some girls working in this club (I will not mention the names of these girls here to avoid them getting into trouble).
As most of you know, the management of the Summit Club has changed a few months ago and it is not without consequences.
I had already given an overview in my previous post during my last visit (it was then in November 2023) on the attitude of certain girls who no longer respect the standards in terms of price as well as their questionable hygiene (it seems that the free STD tests are now gone).
As a regular customer for over 15 years, I have formed long-standing friendships with some of the girls and have recently heard more and more complaints from the dancers working there about a drop in their daily wages. Their salary would now be 100 ZAR per day!
For those who don't know, dancers must pay for their uniforms themselves (we're talking about 500 ZAR) as well as the DJ during their shows (150 ZAR).
Girls are also subject to fines if they do not wear makeup (for instance they are forced to wear fake eyelashes, even if it causes allergies) or if they do not wear high heels.
They used to earn a price money of over 1000 ZAR for dance competionts before COVID. Now, he reward is 250 ZAR only.
Add to that the cost of transportation and food, you will understand, the girls no longer earn anything working there. They can only count on tips to earn a minimum. Some of them started to leave the club. Those who haven't yet done so are seriously thinking about it.
Tip included, a day brings them around 300 ZAR excluding sexual services. Not all of them are keen on having pay for sex activities by the way.
This situation has an impact on the girl's behavior which becomes more and more unhappy and bitchy.
In short, once in the club, you may be harassed by girls to pay them something to eat or drink; even if you are already sitting with another girl. You will give them a note to have peace but in practice, they will keep the money and buy nothing. We are therefore no longer in a hassle-free atmosphere as before. Note that girls do not earn commission on drinks.
Regarding extra activities, instead of multiplying sessions at 300 - 500 ZAR as before, the trend is now to settle for 1 or 2 per shift but at a higher rate.
Obviously, the price they charge for their services is also increasing sharply.
It is now almost impossible to find a dancer accepting less than 1000 ZAR for a short time session. Most want 1500 or even more. All this for a maximum of 30 minutes in a rented booth.
Management is now very strict on hte 30 minutes limit (I have never experienced that before). If you exceed the allotted time, the price is multiplied by 2. The same goes for the rental of the booth (price is still 80 ZAR by the way) and for condoms (20 ZAR each).
There are now chances that girls will now ask you to pay for their services beforehand, which I find very uncomfortable and opens the door to rip-offs. It never happened to me before. Is this a new directive from management?
What also makes me uncomfortable is their complaints when you haven't reached the orgasm after 15 minutes (baby, you need to come now! Yes, it's new to me too.
Not so long ago it was easy to find a dancer who would follow you home for less than R1000 after their shift. Now it's over 5000. Not worth it anymore as you can still have an all night threesome with 2 freelancers in Sandton for that price.
It is still possible to fuck for 700 for a short time with freelancers but they are starting to adopt the same behavior as dancers (paying in advance, watching the time and asking for more money after 15 minutes).
Regarding health checks, you should know that more than 50% of the girls who work there are HIV positive and that some knowingly offer services without a condom for 1000 ZAR more (BBBJ or even BBFS). In the past, a free STD screening service was provided every month, as well as free condoms and a free treatment in case of infection. It seems that this is no longer happening either. Be careful, the threat of AIDS is very real. I have known some girls who have sadly left us in recent years.
In conclusion, this club is heading towards ruin, it's starting to show in the quality of the girls and the lack of customers.
You will have understood that I no longer recommend this place at all. It's no longer the relaxed atmosphere with nice and cheap girls that you could still find a year ago.
The only still interesting option in the area remains for me the Royal Park where it is still possible to have a good time with freelancers for 200 and dancers for 500. Let's hope that the Royal Park does not follow the example of its fellow competitor.
Looking forward to reading your comments. Thanks for sharing your opinion on the current situation of the club.
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