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Hey G.I.s,
Be sure to let us know what's what when you get to Kirkuk, Basra, and Bagdhad. We'll be anxiously awaiting your successful arrival.
Hey I was just wondering how the night life is with all those fireworks going off?
You just have make sure to do it in the bunkers....
Warpig2000
03-22-03, 21:13
Don't hold your breath, guys.
Our boys probably aren't going to post "cock and bull" stories until they are back... remember if they have net access at all it is being carefully monitored by their superiors, right up the line to the Pentagon. Who wants to face court martial for misusing an official .mil domain? But lets wish our boys succsess both in the field and in finding some 'relief' once it's over....
Doubt there will be much action in IRAQ, until after the supression of the REPUBLICAN GAURD, and stabilization, after that prob some teen girls from the upper middle class, and higher will be available so they can fund the kind of life style they are accustomed to. Although if the war drags out for awhile, then desperation will lead to all types being available, kinda like after the fall of the former SOVIET UNION.
Hey, all the Muslim women I've seen are the civilians on TV and they look old and ugly. I have never seen a Muslim babe.
Does anyone have any link to pictures of muslim babes???
Thanks.
well the way things been happening, it seems we will be waiting for a long long time before these reports start coming. For now, it seems that Rumsfield is the only one getting it up the ass.
Let's pray for a safe trip back for our boys.
Cambodia Pro
04-20-03, 22:15
ARAB PUSSY
With all this war going on, I just realized , I've never had Arab/Middle eastern pussy/azzhol.
Anyone has any info about the best places to go. Egypt seems to have some action, but is mostly for homosexuals, not my thing.
I've also seen some Arab pussy in Brazil, and London, but never tried it.
There must be plenty in Iraq, Even 2000 years ago, Babylon was described as the city of Harlots.
Cambodia Pro
04-20-03, 22:22
Originally posted by bjtemp
Hey, all the Muslim women I've seen are the civilians on TV and they look old and ugly. I have never seen a Muslim babe.
Does anyone have any link to pictures of muslim babes???
Thanks.
There are quite a few, but not in websites. London has a few magazines, also Brazil has some Arab descendants. If you find any post it here. Arab women love it in the azz, it's legendary!.
Originally posted by Cambodia Pro
There are quite a few, but not in websites. London has a few magazines, also Brazil has some Arab descendants. If you find any post it here. Arab women love it in the azz, it's legendary!.
Hey Shakira is an arab babe if you are interested.
Business may be picking up. Should we offer a rpiize for the first report by a member now in Baghdad?
Iraqi prostitutes back on the streets after Saddam
BAGHDAD, April 29 (Reuters) - Um Jenan used to wear gold jewellery, tight jeans and see-through blouses to attract VIP clients to her apartment in Baghdad -- until the masked men in black packed her into a minibus and drove her away.
When they laid out her body in front of her home the next day, she was dressed in loose-fitting sweat pants and a T-shirt. A banner on the wall above said "God is greatest!."
Beside her lay her severed head.
"I couldn't stop looking at her," said Ali Waad, who was 11 when Um Jenan was murdered by a death squad loyal to Saddam Hussein in 1999. "Other boys burst out crying, but I just stood there staring at the head."
Such was the brutal justice meted out to prostitutes under the rule of Saddam, driving the world's oldest profession deep underground in recent years.
But since U.S.-led forces toppled Saddam three weeks ago, Baghdad's sex workers have slowly crept back to the capital's bombed-out streets.
Prostitutes face new dangers in a city ravaged by looting and lawlessness, but most are keen to take advantage of the power vacuum until a new government is established and religious leaders clamp down on their trade.
In a country where many women dress all in black and most wear headdresses, high-buttoned loose blouses and long skirts, heavily made-up streetwalkers stand out on the kerbside.
They open their shawls to reveal tight trousers and bright-coloured tops for drivers passing slowly by.
"They are all over the place now -- I see them everywhere," said Ahmed Sabri, a taxi driver. "I could always spot them before, but now it's so obvious. They are not afraid and do it far more openly."
ARBITRARY JUSTICE
Prostitution flourished in Iraq in the 1990s as U.N. sanctions, imposed after Saddam's troops invaded Kuwait in 1990, brought economic hardship, forcing many women to offer their bodies for cash -- a trade abhorred by devout Muslims.
Government officials in BMWs and Mercedes, with pistols strapped to their waists, used to come to see Um Jenan and about 30 other prostitutes in the drab "Saddam Complex" of sand-coloured apartment blocks where they lived.
Shop owner Wisam Mohammed remembers seeing Um Jenan, who was in her 40s, dressed in revealing outfits, buying cigarettes, make-up and perfume in his general supplies store.
Then one day in 1999, the group of men dressed in black with their faces covered took Jenan away and decapitated her.
After that, the slick cars stopped coming to the "Saddam Complex" and the prostitutes quietly moved away.
Baghdad residents say such gruesome punishments were meted out on prostitutes across the capital that year in a sudden crackdown on an illegal trade that had been tacitly tolerated by Saddam's secular government.
Media restrictions meant Iraqis heard about the executions only by word of mouth, and estimates vary on how many people were killed -- from dozens to hundreds.
Still, most agree on the cause of the crackdown -- foreign pornographic videos of Iraqi prostitutes wrapped in the black, white and red national flag, and, according to many versions, dancing on a portrait of Saddam.
The insult sparked the attacks by Saddam's Fedayeen loyalist militia on prostitutes, pimps and particularly anyone suspected of selling girls abroad.
"DANGEROUS WORK"
Baghdad's prostitutes no longer fear attacks from the Fedayeen. But the city is fraught with new dangers.
One woman, who was repeatedly approached by drivers as she stood by a major Baghdad thoroughfare -- ostensibly selling soft drinks -- said a friend was killed by a client the night before.
With chipped black nail varnish, faded pink lipstick and missing teeth, the woman, who gave her name as Mawah and her age as 20, said prostitutes were terrified just before the war because of rumours there would be a fresh beheading spree.
"It's great that Saddam has gone because we no longer live in fear," she said. "But it's dangerous work. There's no control and everybody has got guns -- even the boys."
Across the street there is more evidence sexual repression left the city with Saddam's fall -- business is brisk at the Atlas cinema that no longer shows censored films with even the kissing edited out.
The dingy cinema has two posters touting soft-porn movies. One pre-war film, "Miranda," has the low-cut blouse of the star blacked out but alongside it this week's release advertises a blonde in black suspenders and bra writhing on a bed.
Amar Adnan, the cinema manager, shows off the "Blue Chill" poster with a wide grin. "This is freedom. It's so wonderful they kicked Saddam out," he said.
U.S. soldiers who man checkpoints and guard government buildings sitting on tanks say men approach them to offer cigarettes, Pepsi Cola, gum -- and frequently prostitutes.
"We have orders not to buy anything from the Iraqis. And hookers -- that's a big no-no," U.S. Private Hassan Seyhun said.
Shopkeeper Mohammed is also not buying. He worries the sudden resurgence of prostitution will spread through the city and stain the reputation of his quiet neighbourhood again.
"When I saw Um Jenan's body lying on the pavement, I felt no pity at all," he said. "That's what should be done with them."
I am going soon to Mosul. Can anyone tell me if there is any action there??
Dude,I am sure our troops are fucking Iraqi women just like they fucked Vietnamese during that war. Why don't you just take a look at the girls who are freindly to American troops .I think that should give a clue.Again,not much of a suggestion but thats what I would do
Jeff Sinclair
08-25-03, 01:46
I had a long conversation with a collegue who is just back from Basra, he said that there was little chance of there being any action there.
Most of the guys were on rotating shifts and were warned than the possibility of honeytrap type situations did exist.
He said that their was some action to be had in Bagdad and described the situation much as previously stated on this board with signs of normal life slowly returning interspersed with bouts of automatic gunfire and the odd grenade or two. Things tend to go very quite especially after the Truck attack last week but life goes on and the signs are there that once the situation has calmed a little more then there will be better chances for action.
With regard to action about Mosul Intel has it that chances are high around the city but danger still lurks. A good point to remember is that the Kurds that were / are assisting coallition forces don't take kindly to that sort of thing either and they came be very extreme when they want to be. Some SOG guys found that theydid their own thing and to hell with the plan and anyone who got in the way.
Here is an eyewitness report from Bhagdad, excerpted from today's Washington Post:
Indeed, I watched one day from Yaser's car as three attractive young women, dressed in traditional gowns, walked slowly through an upscale residential neighborhood. They had long, silky black hair and modest makeup. Two looked like they were in their twenties, the third probably a teenager.
"Check out the prostitutes," my cousin said.
Prostitutes? I had thought nothing of three young women making their way down the street. We had just passed the homes of some ambassadors and the headquarters of opposition leaders. Surely prostitutes would not walk these streets.
In the past, prostitutes were most often found at bus stops. They used to dress like everybody else, in knee-length skirts or dresses. They hung out at bus stops so as to have a reason to be standing in the street. Long before the Baathists came to power, there was a whole neighborhood of brothels near the ministry of defense. And there were the foreign women who hung out at nightclubs and commanded a higher rate than the local girls.
I rolled down the window and looked back. I actually thought they looked lovely. The only hint of their work was in their walk: You could see their hips swaying as they went down the street.
"Look at how they're dressed!" I said, looking at my own jeans and white cotton shirt.
"Many prostitutes cover up like conservative girls," said Rana. The subtle communication is necessary, of course, in a conservative culture. Their walk, their glances at the men in passing cars, their shy smiles may all have been signs to those in the know, but I had my doubts.
Yaser laughed. "You are ridiculously naive," he said. "Just watch them." Soon, a car slowed at the curb, and the men inside stopped at the top of the street. The young women continued to saunter along. I began to wonder if Yaser wasn't fooling with me after all. When the women reached the car, however, one of them leaned into the passenger side window to talk, and soon after, all three of the women hopped in.
GrantBurger
12-24-03, 06:22
Was reading in the recent Newsweek Magazine that prostitution is becoming VERY widespread in Irag now. They state a case where a man pays $1.50 for 15 minutes with a woman. Also, they reported that the police rounded up a bunch of pimps and prostitutes, however the american soldiers ordered them released, so who knows what's going on there now!!
Member #1263
12-24-03, 14:33
Heard that some Iraqi babes are making their trip over to Dubai as well!
There are definately prostitutes and a few brothels in Baghdad but I have not had any luck finding them yet but I have heard from many reliable sources that they are here.
The latest word is that the hotel Babylon is one of the larger meeting places in town but I have to confirm this myself.
I'll let everyone know as soon as I find out.
Can anyone provide more information on where to go to find girls in Baghdad? How dangerous is it with the whole Muslim thing, cutting off heads and hands, stoning adulturers? What do girls cost and where to find them? Are they cute under all those robes? Can you bring them back to your hotel?
Member #1005
02-06-04, 09:57
"can anyone provide more information on where to go to find girls in baghdad? how dangerous is it with the whole muslim thing, cutting off heads and hands, stoning adulturers? what do girls cost and where to find them? are they cute under all those robes? can you bring them back to your hotel?"
monaghan as someone who is currently based in baghdad i would say it would be very difficult in this present situation to obtain accurate information about mongering.
let’s be clear here, if you are currently working in baghdad and want to break up the monotony with some women, then all well and fine – but there are a couple of points i would like to add first.
“how dangerous is it with the whole muslim thing?”
iraq is currently considered one of the most dangerous places in the world; it is not just to do with religion but general terrorism and criminality thrown in.
foreigners are targeted for attacks by various organisations, too numerous to mention, on top of the general opportunist criminals, many of whom who were released from prison before the out break of the war, and ak47s are sold for around $20 in the street bazaars. a pimp is unlikely to attract attention to himself by providing girls to any foreigners and likely to keep a low profile. last week there was an article about prostitution in the iraq today newspaper: 26 january 2004, "in seedy underworld, slave trade is booming" – www.iraq-today.com/pi2.php?pi=2004-01-26
are they cute under all those robes?
the few women i have seen in baghdad do not wear robes about 30% do and the other 70% wear western style dress, abet that its somewhat conservative and not very fashionable – so no mini skirts or cleaverage showing outfits. this in not a fundamentalist country (yet)– so we do not have cutting off heads or hands nor stoning adulterers, give it six months. but on the positive side, the majority of iraqi women i have seen have j lo sized booties and i am sure a few of them want it as must as i want to give it to them because you can see it in their eyes when you talk to them.
can you bring them back to your hotel?
which hotels are you talking about bring girls back to? the majority of hotels are filled with journalists, security companies & businessmen seeking out opportunities, there are restrictions on entering the majority of hotels in baghdad considering that three of them have been attacked in the last three months alone. women don’t go out at night unless with their men folk, there have been many [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) and kidnappings in many parts of the city power cuts are frequent,
now with all this in mind why would you really want to come here just for sex?
generally, you will find iraqi people are very hospitable and many will invite you to their homes for meals, but these girls are looking for one things and one thing only –a way out if the country, marriage or green card. i and i imagine several hundred troops, contact workers and security personel based here have been trying to get these girls to give up the panties but to no avail. i guess based on the law of averages that some guys have been lucky but none that i know and believe me we have been trying - its extremely difficult to move about this city especially after dark and even worse if you are a foreigner.
so please take my advice – don’t come to baghdad just for sex, just come to iraq to make the big money available here and for mongering activities i suggest you go for r&r to dubai (3 hours away) or bangkok (7 hours), manila (9 hours) rio (18 hours)
i don’t think any poon is worth risking your life for even for an adventurous monger.
juniour
Hey guys,
I'll be going over to Bahgdad in a week and a half. I'm going over to be in charge of my companies network, so I will post if anything happens. But from my understanding, most guys are getting it from women soldiers trying to get knocked up so they can get a direct flight home. Basically they are whoring themselves out to anyone who will take it. But on the other hand I dated a Persian/Armenian girl from Iran for two and a half years, and they are the freakiest in bed. Oh yeah. I do know there are quite a bit of Armenians in Iraq, so I'll see whats up with that and Ill try to put my armenian skills to use, though not very good I must add.
Bound in Iraq
03-15-04, 14:35
I came over into this one to look, expecting it to be empty. Someone actually asked about mongering here? Hell, this is definately not the place right now for that.
Hi. Forget about Iraq now. Iraq now is living in hell. In the old days, especialy in the eighties and seventies, Iraq was one of the best places you could go to have sex. Brothels were everywhere. Cabarets to. It was a street that called abou Nawas where there a lot of action to do. Now iraq its dead zone because of the wars. Of course there is prostitution but its now very hidden because of the circumstances of the country. But anyway who thinks of visiting Iraq these days? It isn't worth. I heard that there is Iraquis girls in Jordan and Bahrain and Dubai. But never experienced for sure. But because of the present circumstances forget about Iraq.
Thanx
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Can't help but see the funny side to the "I am going to Iraq..any action there"...stuff..hohohohohoho. An old picture but ok for you guys using up your right hand...
Guys,
I have been here for over four months and believe me, there is NO action here. I am in the Green Zone which because of the shear number of westerners should be the most liberal place in Iraq. Yet, the only thing you can buy here is booze. There have been rumors of "houses" and SW's in the Green Zone but that's all that they have turned out be...rumors. No wonder some guys around here are so eager to get to heaven and meet those 72 virgins. That's the only way to get sex in these parts. In order to get any action, we military types have to do our R&R in Kuwait.
Nice Guy 99
06-03-04, 13:46
Tripod, I am in Kuwait frequently for the past ten years or so. I have never found any organized or consistent P4P. You can see a couple of posts by me on the Kuwait board.
May I ask where you are now finding action on R&R in Kuwait?
nice guy 99,
there is a lot of action in the deployment/redeployment camps set up in kuwait. on my last visit, i connected with a nice us air force nco who was trying to make a little bit of extra money on the side. through the military grape vine you can always find some women who are willing to make a few extra dollars. of course, it helps if you are in the military as well. in meantime, i have not given up on baghdad. one of our interpreters here told me about a neighborhood near the green zone called al-batween and a certain area call bad al-sharki. i will check it out once i do a recon on the place for security purposes (it would be extremely embarrassing to killed over here trying to get a piece of ass).
Steve Naive
06-08-04, 17:09
National Public Radio has a show called "This American Life" which did a one-hour report this past weekend on private contractors in Iraq by an indy journalist woman, from recordings she made some months ago. Among many other things, they spent a few minutes discussing rumors of a brothel in or near to the green zone. Having heard this, it sure was interesting to come here and read tripod's reports.
If you want to hear it: visit www.thislife.org, choose "All Episodes/RealAudio in order of broadcast", choose the episode from June 4, 2004 titled "I'm From the Private Sector and I'm Here to Help".
To those of you who are private contractors: while the report was not blatantly critical, and maybe tries to sound objective, you may not find that it casts you in a favorable light.
Member #1005
06-10-04, 07:45
Gentlemen,
There are a lot of rumours and hearsay with regards to what is happening in Iraq, as someone that has been in the green zone since last year and also looking for “action” so to speak, but its dead, you have to get outside and into the red zone of the Babylon Hotel, where several girls do hang out, easy to spot touting for business. I have asked many of the KBR contractors here but nothing most of them, do as I do and go to Thailand for their breaks.
On the subject of journalists I have been approached by several, (maybe I look dodgy) and spoken to respected journalist Peter Arnet all looking for a different angle and one of the questions they ask is if know of or aware that there is a vice ring operating within the green zone. So I would suggest you take many of these rumours with a pinch of salt – such issues are very sensitive.
As for action within Camp Wolverine in Kuwait- if you have actually been there and seen the place you will realise it’s a non-starter in my books, so unless someone can pm with some hard evidence to check out and verify, because I will be down there later this month I would disregard this information.
If I was to find any action within the green zone I would be very reluctant to post it anyway because the CPA has to be seen as being whiter than white not only do you have to worry about the terrorist but if the journalists gets hold of this information – you know what would happen it would be closed down. So guys I suggest you stick to the Rashid disco on Thursday night for the closes action you will find within the green zone.
SUCCESS IN IRAQ!!
Yes, this is hard to believe but I found mongering action in Iraq. It all started when me and my Iraqi buddies were sitting in a restaurant. They were reminiscing about how Saddam Hussein used to keep brothels in certain neighborhoods for the use of his higher echelon henchmen. Another guy at the next table overhears us and says he knows so-and-so who can find us a woman. We think he's full of shit until he whips out his cell fone.
Presto. He calls his contact. Within 30 minutes, the second dude drives over to our restaurant. This second guy is a pimp. Imagine a Middle Eastern Huggy Bear. That's how he looked and dressed. So he immediately starts asking us what kind of girls do we like? Fat, skinny, young, old, tall, short, hair color, breast size, etc. He gets on his phone and starts dialing girls. He puts one of the girls on the phone with me. Of course, she doesn't speak a word of english.
All of us in my group are staying at the Sheraton Hotel, which if you watch the news, is surrounded by walls and tanks. It's practically impossible to get in there unless you are staying in the hotel. So we know it would be near impossible to sneak a working girl in there. No problem, says Huggy Bear. He can arrange a house. So this haggling goes on for a while. Finally he says he can get us two girls for $70 each girl, all nighter, plus $50 for the rent of the house. Keep in mind, this is a FORTUNE in Iraq, but we were all blue-balled and decided to take up the offer. He tried but Huggy Bear refused to budge any lower.
About 7pm, we meet Huggy Bear at the agreed intersection. He's in a beat-up piece of crap car with two girls in the back. I cant really see what they're wearing because they're covered in all black traditional dress, kind of like the Afghanistan burkas. He motions for us to follow him. So off we go into the Baghdad night. Now we're getting a little nervous because he's taking us into some residential streets. It's still a middle-class well-to-do neighborhood but people are starting to look up when they see our BMW sedan pull up in front of the house.
The girls rush into the house and we follow. I still can't see them. There are two other guys in my group. This fat madam opens the door and we sit on her couch, waiting for the girls. After a while, Huggy Bear starts demanding another $20 for beer, while madam starts demanding another $50. We begin arguing for a good hour. We only get them down a few bucks. At this point we're all stoned (hash easily found here) and drunk and really dont want to argue. Besides, we're making a shitload of money in Iraq so we figure, what the hell. We pay the price. Yes, I know, we're ruining it for the other punters. I apologize.
Finally the girls come out. Neither speak much English so Huggy Bear translates. One of them is drop-dead GORGEOUS. She's very petite, about 5 foot tall, 100 pounds, with a huge C-cup rack for her frame. She has long dyed blonde hair that goes down to her ass. She was 18, called herself Jewel, rating an 8-9 in my book. The second girl was Zara, a little older, about 25, long brown hair, healthy but not fat, not as cute but still a good 6-7. The girls proceed to do a bunch of belly dancing. This goes on for a good hour. We're all just cheering and clapping as the girls dance. Finally they go back into a back room and then emerge wearing just long t-shirts. They take our hands and lead us into separate bedrooms (there were three, so one guy had to wait a turn). I got the younger girl. It was decent service but not GFE. She would only do straight missionary but had the nicest rack I've ever seen. After we were done, she got annoying and started saying "Money? Money?" I gave her a $10 tip and she seemed happy. She later told me that she was only getting 25% of the fee we gave Huggy bear. I dont know if she was being honest or just fishing for more tip, but I just nodded and said sorry to hear that.
After I came back to the living room, my buddies were still busy. At this point, three other occupants of the house come home. It turns out the "Madame" has a husband, older son and the son's wife. They're all into the business. We break out beers and crank up the Arabic pop music. I was a bit annoyed at all the people in the house, as we were led to believe we would have the house to ourselves with the girls. So we decided to leave about 2am. The girls stayed all night alone with the family.
I should mention that this was in early March, before all the real violence and bombings happened, so it was still safe to move about during the night. I don't know if I would risk it today. I doubt I would go back to Huggy Bear because, looking back, he ripped us off. The Madam later told us that if we wanted to have the girls again to just go around Huggy and call her directly and offered the girls for $50 apiece, all night.
I've also seen SW on the streets. Even if they're wearing traditional dresses, you can easily tell they are working girls because they're standing on a street corner wearing nail polish and heavy makeup. Most of them are butt ugly, 1-2. One woman who must have been 50 quoted us a price of $50 for ST. We laughed and sped away.
The point of this story is that mongering is everywhere, even in war zones. You just have to look hard. And when you find it, it's expensive. If any soldiers out there can sneak out of their base for a few hours, PM me and maybe we can meet up.
Nice Guy 99
06-19-04, 23:19
"I've also seen SW on the streets. Even if they're wearing traditional dresses, you can easily tell they are working girls because they're standing on a street corner wearing nail polish and heavy makeup."
Bigbob, be really careful on that assumption. A great number of covered ladies wear heavy makeup and dress somewhat provacatively under the abaya. It is not a reliable indicator that they are working girls.
Interesting report on the AP wire about prostitution in Iraq taking upsteam.
Mentioned a resort town to the north?
Poontoligist
07-12-04, 14:55
Glad to hear it's not all blood and gore over there. Take it from a Vietnam Vet: Nothing makes a War Zone more palitable than Beer, Dope and Local Puss. Keep your heads down boys!
Several people have PMd to ask for contacts. I'm sorry but unless you know me personally, I will not email contacts.
It would be too easy for the numbers to fall into the wrong hands the girls could end up in jail, or worse. Don't believe me? Take a look at the Dubai forum to see what happened to one local favorite haunt. In Iraq, the girls would likely be killed by their family for shaming their honor. Sorry, call me greedy but that is the way I feel and hope you understand why I cannot share numbers.
Bigbob,
I was one of the guys that PM'ed you about your contacts. After reading the article in the 26 July issue of Time magazine about the "honor" killings of women now going on in Iraq, I understand your position. To us Westerners, this type of thing is totally incomprehensible but we must understand that this is an entirely different culture with a completely different take on things. In the Green Zone, booze is readily available. A few Iraqi residents in the Green Zone have gone into business selling this stuff out of their houses to Westerners in the Green Zone. Porn is readily available at the Haji mart. Many Iraqis are very business savvy. Some of them have quickly learned that we have an affinity for porn so what they are doing, now that satellite dishes are allowed in Iraq, is digitally copying porn onto DVDs and selling this stuff to Westerners. But tail is a completely different story. I am sure that it is available someplace in Baghdad but getting to it is extremely difficult because of the culture here. I will keep trying and if I hit paydirt, I will definitely post it here but in a discreet manner. FYI, I am working with Iraqi soldiers and we should begin combat ops in Baghdad later on this month. Perhaps I will be able to score some tail in between the ambushes, mortar attacks, car bombs and RPG attacks.
Travel Fool
07-20-04, 21:06
Hello all,
This is my first post on the Iraq board. I am in Mosul w/ a private security company and I am headed to Baghdad tomorrow for business prior to going out on R&R. Others in my company have contacts at a hotel outside the Green Zone and I am working to get some definites for tomorrow evening. My goal is two at once! I will let you know how it goes and I will pass on the narrative after it unfolds (hopefully!).
The action exists but last time we were there the hotel reception desk denied knowledge of it b/c he didn't know us. He wouldn't give up the number. If we arrive w/ the number we can sign the 'guests' in to the hotel and through security. I will post tomorrow or the next and let you know how it goes.
I just hired on as a security contractor. Don't have a deployment date yet but hopefully it will be soon. I will definately keep my eyes open for any mongering opportunities while I'm there.
Heard from a friend that just got back and he says there are Iraqi women that will hang around some of the bases and service GI's, but you gotta have them stick out their tongue, and if it's black they have syphilis. Watch out for that shit, that's fuggin nasty!
I think I'll just wait the 90 days for R&R and head on over to Argentina for a couple weeks. The women there are smoking hot!
But yeah some of those Iraqi women are pretty good looking too. I was there in 91 and we ran a refugee camp in Rafah SA for a little while. Some of them didn't have their veils on when we would drive by and let me tell you I saw some fine ass exotic looking women - until they smiled and then it was like ahh holy shit with a fucked up grill looking like they never brushed their teeth a day in their life.
That's just my limited experience with a few of them though, I'm sure they're not all like that (hopefully).
The other thing is that I don't think they use toilet paper over there. They either wipe with their left hand or splash water on their ass. I would be kinda worried about that ass smelling or not being clean, but since I've never had any Iraqi poontang I could be way off base.
Anyways happy mongering and stay safe.
The reason for bad teeth and lack of toilet tissue would probably be the fact that you saw women in a refugee camp! It makes sense. Unfortunately, issues of bad teeth arise when you live in a country that has been war torn for the past 30 years and cosmetic dentistry is no longer a priority in life.
One of the women I lusted after for many years was an Iraqi woman(living outside of Iraq.) She had the largest pair of natural breasts I have ever seen and a picture perfect face with full lips. She had full everything infact! Beautiful eyes, skin,hair and ofcourse perfect teeth!
It's just depressing to see what war does to women. Iraq had the first Arab Miss World in the 70's, you know?
Its ok napalm:)
All muslims clean their asses by wiping it with left hand with water for sure:). Its cleaner than toilet paper trust me. Water clean any dirts in the ass but toilet paper left some dirts. Don't be affraid of the smelling of the asses. In fact we Muslims say that you've bad smells because you don't use water:). Its ok.
Happy hunting:)
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I appreciate what you say Lalo and I've been told the same thing by many Saudi's, Emarati's, Lebanese and Iraqi's but I'm still doubtful but as you can see from my post below yours I have only praise otherwise for Arabic women.
Slightly off the mongering topic but out of interest did anyone see the Iraqi bodybuilders in Baghdad yesterday?
http://www.baghdadbulletin.com/pageArticle.php?article_id=112&cat_id=2
They won't be needing us if anymore of them keep pumping themselves up.
Ok so far I've done one Army chick twice, and a Philipina girl from the PX twice but no pro action yet. I wouldn't mind hitting a little A-rab poontang while I'm here but I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't trust any of these hajis. Think I'll just wait till I go on R&R next month and stop off in Amman.
I have heard of a couple of female soldiers availible for p4p until just a few short months ago. There maybe some more action in a big base like Anaconda
Travel Fool
01-08-05, 19:25
I was in the Green Zone today and noticed a sign, "Chinese Restaurant...Massage," so I went and checked it out. It is just inside one of the main gates not far from the CSH, down an alley behind some Texas barriers. I went in and a Chinese girl was in the courtyard with a Gringo and told me they had massage. A papasan took me upstairs where there were 3-4 Chinese girls and one took me into a room with two beds. I said I would be back but I had to go b/c we were picking up a client. No guarantees, but I would say it was real action. I would like to go back but it isn't worth the ride down Route Irish unless you are going for another reason and can sneak off.
Is there anything available on Victory? There are so many Asian girls working here I have to imagine it is going on but no knowledge myself...
Member #2001
01-10-05, 05:25
Gee Napalm your not racist are you? You want to fuck soomeone, then why dont you fuck your CO's wife and then you can write about it here for all to read
I heard that there was but not from the asian help. But from some female soldiers from a unit that just left. The Camp authorites shut the action down. If something like that starts up again, which is unlikely it will take several months. Your best bet is British and american civilians.
Miller Lite
01-11-05, 07:36
Looks like I might be going over there, just wondering what the arab chicks are like.
Gee Napalm your not racist are you? You want to fuck soomeone, then why dont you fuck your CO's wife and then you can write about it here for all to read
Get a life and get off my nuts assclown. Better yet why don't you go out and get laid or are you one of those losers who couldn't get laid in a *****house?
By the way I don't have a CO I'm a civilian contractor so FOAD.
Heading to Iraq for a bit. Got at least six months of fucking in before leaving Germany so not planning to indulge in any P4P. What are the full service prices running though? Just curious, I thought with the amount of bank that some are making and the low supply, there could be sever inflation.
heading over there myself in a week or two and am 50 / 50 on local action. have been defense contracting for years (egypt / jordan / yugo / germany / italy / hungary) ... never had an issue finding good quality locals for dirt cheap. even if they aren't p4p, many have never been taken out to eat or been bought a pair of jeans. they are know the deal implicitily. just casually ask them if they would like to go out sometime, they will usually agree, and will always give a quickie if not more and longer just because somebody is actually treating them nice. has worked everywhere including the middle east. iraq though is a lot more secretarian (?sp) though so unsure on how it will work there. i know folk that have issues finding it in saudi also (except for phillapinos (?sp). fuck that) but iran it is easy.
as for soldiers, many (way more than the 7 mentioned, would go as far as to say 10% -> 20%) females sell themselves regularly while deployed, especially the ugly ones. they have a captive audience and i know a couple female soldiers that pull in 3 to 4 times their basepay. they are not cheap though, usually exhorbitant priced ($300 usd for a bj, more for full) and if shit turns bad will report you to the mp's ([CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) claim). only real bonus is many of them are willing to trade services for goods. as a contractor who can leave base can always find female soldiers who are more than willing to put out for bottle of alcohol, hash, or drugs (smuggled onto base by you). biggest problem with female soldiers though is word gets around quick, they are difficult to find (worried about being caught so usually only sell to their squad / company), and you have to repeat the process every 6 month rotation. when you find them though, they are usually clean, give fs, and really good ... most of them would never dream of doing this back home .. solely doing it because they are horny also, realize the market, and word will never get back home.
Hey,
$300 for a USA army ****? Oh my god, how fucking depressing can that be? I feel sorry for the poor bastards who get so horny they will fork that amount over. Having been to many countries and gotten fucked for chump change I have to say I feel like shit when I hear something like that. Its bad enough to be in Iraq as it is without resorting to fucking some ugly American broad who feels the sense of entitlement to the tune of up to $300. They should be shot. (just kidding)
Well, to all the boys over there keep your chins up and get used to your hand, it will be your best friend. Someday, you can come home and go to a decent place and have your brains fucked out like you cant imagine.
Later
Milkster
Checked out the Oriental restaurant/massage place in the IZ. Only one girl left, Chinese. No happy ending. Decent massage for $20 though. Then again, it's a sellers market here. Anyone got word on action in the IZ or at Victory?
*guy whose name I have forgot* What brought you to Iran? When?
Livin la vida contractor,
Boka
The Chinese massage place down the little alley near the CAS only offers massage. $20 half hour $30 for one hour. Happy endings may be available, but were not offered.
But...
There is a place. Section 217 (former 6. btl, now KBR) near the Tigris. About 100m from the Bunker Bar on the way to the river. Sign outside says hairdresser. Judging by the traffic, the girls are getting plenty of exercise. Prices are fair, apparently about $20 for a bj.
I have heard that there are eastern european girls availible in al-asad.
Miller Lite
05-31-05, 11:15
Well has anyone found any over here?
Heard rumours some can be found at BIAP proper (indian country) but can't confirm. Will try and make it over there next month and confirm.
I recently left the southern area of Baghdad where there were several apartments that had ladies of the night. They are not out in the open and pretty hard to find unless you know the right people to aid you in locating them. Even if you do find them it they are not to eager to let you know what the real purpose is. Probably the easiest way to identify is by the make up, a house that has about 4 or 5 ladies that all look different, and only one man in the house. There may even be small children in the apartment. Not really an easy task to find and get any action as an American with out a translator.
Bagging Biatches in Baghdad
I apologize in advance for the utter lack of utility in this post.
Yes, there are houses of I'll repute around Baghdad, including one or two in the IZ.
Outside the IZ you can get a girl for the evening for $25 you can also be unceremoniously beheaded for free. Many Iraqi women are gorgeous, and, since there is nothing that really resembles a functional economy, some of them are up for screwing to support themselves and their five kids. I ended up getting some girls from an Iraqi security contactor. Some business people who live outside of the wire have gotten contacts from the hotel staff where they reside. That being said, Ali Babba is the word of the day and most people are simply blowing smoke when they say they can get you a girl—especially within the IZ. I was EXTREAMLY stupid, LUCKY, and DRUNK one nite when I took a taxi around downtown Baghdad looking for women. I met a pimp and he took me to a house where I banged 3 girls for 60 bucks until I heard morning prayers. Even if I didn’t have a conscience, I can’t proffer any useful details about how to duplicate this. Sorry.
The massage parlors in the IZ are strictly massage parlors and no erotic services are performed; however, the first Chinese restaurant occasionally has some really hot Iraqi girls that appear to be in the game in some form or another. I got "engaged" to one of them in order to bang her, but I left before I could consummate our love. You have to pay about $100 for the paperwork to convert to Islam which is taken to a local mosque for processing—your presence is not required. I thought it was a sham but I know a guy who successfully married one of the girls from the restaurant.
I met a girl on the shuttle that became my mistress. She wasn’t hot, but NO man is turning down pussy in Iraq. I took her back to my trailer, gave her some whiskey (her first alcohol ever), and we had a wild few hours. Arab women--at least this one was-- are very submissive in bed and you can really have your way with them.
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Dirk,
Nice pics posted.
Please post more pics of Iraqi women if possible.
Thanks,
Mal
Hi all,
I'm thinking of applying for an accounting position in Baghdad - I am aware of the ongoing violence caused by the insurgents, but it'd be nice to learn about the situation from expats who are living there right now, and not the sensationalist news. Would appreciate any input, thanks!!!
Hi all,
I'm thinking of applying for an accounting position in Baghdad - I am aware of the ongoing violence caused by the insurgents, but it'd be nice to learn about the situation from expats who are living there right now, and not the sensationalist news. Would appreciate any input, thanks!!!Inside or outside the IZ? If it's inside the IZ you will be ok--unless an occasional mortar lands on your trailer or you get drunk and walk around and are abducted. You will work 12+ hours a day 6-7 days a week and every day is the same. Groundhog day over and over and over and....You will occupy one half a trailer if you work for IRMO and maybe share it with someone else. A bathroom and shower used by 2-4 people will be situated between the two trailer halves. The trailer will have a twin bed, a fridge, and a tv/dvd player that has more channels than I do in EE. I would do anything to watch some football.
Inside the IZ it's not really noticeable that you are in Iraq. I question even placing personnel there. All can be done from Jordan at a fraction of the price. The only time you leave the IZ is going to and from BIAP. Highway of Death is not so bad anymore. I had to let loose couple of rounds with an AK on my first trip from the BIAP to the IZ--our escort vehicle broke down and they bad guys shot at us. I think I hit that one of those SOBs too...either him or the Ukrainian security contractor.
Outside the IZ or military base, who knows? The variables are too much to accurately comment.
All in all it wasn't so bad. No expenses (or pussy) combined with a SHITLOAD of money make me want to go back.
Dirkdingy,
How do the Iraqi womens' pussies smell? One imagines they are not fresh. Or is one wrong?
LexLuther
Don't know if that's a serious question/comment - hope not.
Yes, you are wrong. Muslim women wash there and other places - guess where - several times a day.
Dirkdingy,
How do the Iraqi womens' pussies smell? One imagines they are not fresh. Or is one wrong?
LexLuther
Bear Foxtrot
12-30-05, 15:10
Don't know if that's a serious question/comment - hope not.
Yes, you are wrong. Muslim women wash there and other places - guess where - several times a day.
I don't know..I'm sure that, maybe if you really tried, you could find some poor, older, or homeless Iraqi woman and her pussy would/could probably smell.
Dirkdingy,
How do the Iraqi womens' pussies smell? One imagines they are not fresh. Or is one wrong?
LexLutherI believe that Islam stresses cleanliness and dictates washing multiple times a day; however, in many parts of Iraq, including sections in Baghdad, running water is a luxury and the girls can't always wash themselves as much as someone who wears a long heavy black dress in 120+degree weather should. In my case, before we were intimate she would always wash and perfume herself. So, no, her snatch was not malodorous
Bill88,
You may be right. I should be more careful. I will ask the Admin to remove the first photo. I certainly don't want any trouble for her. And I don’t want to be identified and loose my security clearance. That was not a prudent thing for me to do. In my defense, this site is blocked on US Govt servers in Iraq and by the respective civilian authorities in many Middle East countries.
Member #1005
01-01-06, 09:32
Dirkdingy,
How do the Iraqi womens' pussies smell? One imagines they are not fresh. Or is one wrong?
LexLuther
From the people that actually invented “SOAP”, (yes, invented in the Arabic world) I would have to say that their pussy smell a great deal fresher than many of the girls in your own countries where soap and water are taken for granted.
In fact in my many travels around the world many girls in the Middle East, Africa, Latin America and Asia often wonder how it is that these guy can afford to fly half way around the world for cheap sex but at the same time are unable to wash themselves once a day.
Bill88,
In my defense, this site is blocked on US Govt servers in Iraq and by the respective civilian authorities in many Middle East countries.Not really I was able to log on here when I was over there with computer and internet connection courtesy of the USG, in fact all everybody did over there was download porn all day, wasn't shit else to do.
From the people that actually invented “SOAP”, (yes, invented in the Arabic world) I would have to say that their pussy smell a great deal fresher than many of the girls in your own countries where soap and water are taken for granted.
In fact in my many travels around the world many girls in the Middle East, Africa, Latin America and Asia often wonder how it is that these guy can afford to fly half way around the world for cheap sex but at the same time are unable to wash themselves once a day.I agree, Junior, you're right. I got the some question of females about the some topic.
Best wishes from Germany
In my defense, this site is blocked on US Govt servers in Iraq and by the respective civilian authorities in many Middle East countries.
See forum thread on proxy avoidance. If you are in the IZ and not the US Military network, you can get to the forum just fine. If you are on NIPR, just use tor. Gets right past the big DoD Firewall in the sky just fine. Make sure you enable the fascist firewall option though so its configured to only work on ports 80 and 443 or you will soon see your local signal guy cut your connection off and if he's an asshole, prosecute you IAW AR25-2 (if mil or GS) or take it up with your COR if contractor.
Comment on the smell thing (my Russian girl explained it to me) as I have noticed it with Syrian girls also:
Its not that they don't wash or bathe, its that they have a difficult time cleaning their clothes. Imagine wearing the same pair (or two) of dirty under garments in the hot sun all day every day, washing them in dirty water with minimal soap, the wearing them again. Its not so much the women themselves are dirty, its the close. Have noticed this with poor folk everywhere. Seem it with Syrian women, chinese peasents, Bosnia girls in moutain villages. Laundry just isn't a neccessity and the stench often rubs off. Just wrap it, don't go down on it, or have them shower first. Non issue.
As for the guy going to Iraq, DirkDingy said it best BUT your milage will def vary depending on where you are assigned. The IZ is a drunk party every night and short of getting drunk and kidnapped (as security is extremely lax and the borders between the green zone and red zone are a bit hazy), its a nice place to be.
The Victory / BIAP complex is big military. You get rocketed daily, live in connexes that are partition into 3 10'x10' rooms with a roomate and each row of maybe 16 connexes sharing a communal bathroom shower. And thats if your lucky. Plenty of folk living in 12 man tents waiting for people to quit so they can move into a connex.
Get out to the smaller FOB's (or big bases like Balad) and you get all sorts of accomodations. Some good, some bad. Depends what you like. The IZ is nice though if you want some semblance of a normal life though. Everywhere else just think of as prision. Do your year or two, its a year of mind dumbing boredom that you will never get back, but you get paid OK.
People keep saying pays well but to be honest, this isn't 2003. Its calmed down enough new contracts are paying less that I was making working in Kosovo back in '02 and I lived off based getting drunk everyday screwing the locals in Kosovo. Iraq is suffering from standard been there to long syndrome. Give it another year or two and pay will be comparable to the states + 50% instead of states + 100% like it is now or states + 300% like it was in '03. Might do another year myself ... still in limbo about that.
Def not a fan of the operations moving to Jordan though and I hope with the hotel bombings, it drives people to Kuwait or UAE. I like the Jordanian scene and don't want to see it flooded anymore than it currently is with westerns. Has a nice p4p scene here and def don't need any more light on it (which a influx of money would cause possibly forcing the King to react to public outcry).
As criminal gangs run amuck in Iraq, hundreds of girls have gone missing. Are they being sold for sex?
The man on the phone with the 14-year-old Iraqi girl called himself Sa'ad. He was calling long distance from Dubai and telling her wonderful things about the place. He was also about to buy her. Safah, the teenager, was well aware of the impending transaction. In the weeks after she was kidnapped and imprisoned in a dark house in Baghdad's middle-class Karada district, Safah heard her captors haggling with Sa'ad over her price. It was finally settled at $10,000. Staring at a floor strewn with empty whiskey bottles, the orphan listened as Sa'ad described the life awaiting her: a beautiful home, expensive clothes, parties with pop stars. Why, she'd be joining two other very happy teenage Iraqi girls living with Sa'ad in his harem. Safah knew that she was running out of time. A fake passport with her photo and assumed name had already been forged for her. But even if she escaped, she had no family who would take her in. She was even likely to end up in prison. What was she to do?
Safah is part of a seldom-discussed aspect of the epidemic of kidnappings in Iraq: sex trafficking. No one knows how many young women have been kidnapped and sold since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003. The Organization for Women's Freedom in Iraq, based in Baghdad, estimates from anecdotal evidence that more than 2,000 Iraqi women have gone missing in that period. A Western official in Baghdad who monitors the status of women in Iraq thinks that figure may be inflated but admits that sex trafficking, virtually nonexistent under Saddam, has become a serious issue. The collapse of law and order and the absence of a stable government have allowed criminal gangs, alongside terrorists, to run amuck. Meanwhile, some aid workers say, bureaucrats in the ministries have either paralyzed with red tape or frozen the assets of charities that might have provided refuge for these girls. As a result, sex trafficking has been allowed to fester unchecked.
"It is a problem, definitely," says the official, who has heard specific reports from Iraqi aid workers about girls being kidnapped and sold to brothels. "Unfortunately, the security situation doesn't allow us to follow up on this." The U.S. State Department's June 2005 trafficking report says the extent of the problem in Iraq is "difficult to appropriately gauge" but cites an unknown number of Iraqi women and girls being sent to Yemen, Syria, Jordan and Persian Gulf countries for sexual exploitation. Statistics are further made murky by tribal tradition. Families are usually so shamed by the disappearance of a daughter that they do not report kidnappings. And the resulting stigma of compromised chastity is such that even if the girl should resurface, she may never be taken back by her relations.
A visit to the Khadamiyah Women's Prison in the northern part of Baghdad immediately produces several tales of abduction and abandonment. A stunning 18-year-old nicknamed Amna, her black hair pulled back in a ponytail, says she was taken from an orphanage by an armed gang just after the U.S. invasion and sent to brothels in Samarra, al-Qaim on the border with Syria, and Mosul in the north before she was taken back to Baghdad, drugged with pills, dressed in a suicide belt and sent to bomb a cleric's office in Khadamiyah, where she turned herself in to the police. A judge gave her a seven-year jail sentence "for her sake" to protect her from the gang, according to the prison director.
Two other girls, Asmah, 14, and Shadah, 15, were taken all the way to the United Arab Emirates before they could escape their kidnappers and report them to a Dubai police station. The sisters were then sent back to Iraq but, like many other girls who have escaped their kidnappers and buyers, were sent to prison because they carried fake passports. There, they wait for the bureaucracy to sort out their innocence. What happened to the gang that took them? The sisters hear rumors that the men paid their way out of jail and are back on the streets. "I don't know what to do if the prison administration decides to release me," says Asmah, pushing back her gray head scarf to adjust her black hair. "We have no one to protect us."
Women's advocates are trying to set up halfway houses for kidnap survivors. The locations are secret to keep the women safe from both trafficking gangs trying to cover their tracks and outraged relatives who may try to kill the women to restore their clans' reputation. But the new Iraqi government has set up several bureaucratic roadblocks. Even organizations that do not receive government money have to secure permission from four ministries and the Baghdad city council for every shelter they hope to operate. Wringing her hands in exasperation, activist Yanar Mohammed says, "They want to close our women's shelter and deny our ability to open more."
That means that for girls like Safah, there are few havens left in Baghdad. In 2003, after Safah's father died, her grandmother took her to House of Children No. 2 orphanage in Adhamiya without the knowledge of most of her family. At the orphanage, she was befriended by an affable nurse who spent hours chatting up Safah, a fresh-faced girl whose fingers are still pudgy with baby fat. The nurse's modest hijab framed a sweet face that made Safah feel that the nurse was a good, spiritual woman, one she could trust. The nurse convinced Safah that she could be killed over the shame her disappearance had brought to her family. The nurse offered to adopt her. But official channels would have taken too long, so the nurse told Safah to hold her lower-right abdomen, scream and writhe on the carpet of the orphanage director's office, pretending to have appendicitis and requiring emergency medical assistance. Once at the hospital, the nurse whisked Safah into a waiting car.
The next three weeks were the worst in Safah's life. "I was tortured and beaten and insulted a lot in that house," Safah says. She wouldn't provide many details about what happened in the whiskey-soaked den in Karada. But she says that when it became apparent to her that she was about to be sold to Sa'ad, the man on the phone from Dubai, she became desperate. She passed word of her confinement to a neighborhood boy, who reported it to the local police station. Officers raided the place and arrested the nurse. Bureaucratic red tape somehow kept Safah and the nurse in the same prison for six months before Safah was finally released back into the custody of the orphanage a month ago.
At the orphanage, nestled behind a 10-ft. wall on the breezy banks of the Tigris, Safah can take computer classes, practice sewing and paint portraits of the family she wishes she had. But she doesn't feel as safe as she used to there. A social worker tells her that the nurse wasn't at the Khadamiyah Women's Prison during her last visit. Suddenly Safah rushes out of the room, crying and beating her head with her hands in the hallway. "If she is released," says Safah, her eyes darting back and forth in a panic, "I'm not staying here." But deep down she knows she has nowhere else to go.
As criminal gangs run amuck in Iraq, hundreds of girls have gone missing. Are they being sold for sex?Umm and this would surprise you how? This is standard fare for most of the world ... don't act all indignent now :)
It seems the tide is against me and they are sending some units back to Iraq together with yours truly. I just want to gauge if GZ or around the area has changed since 03. Want to know the monger scene if GI's can still get plenty of poontang since we are always on a lockdown mode.
Might as well get all the info, I could get. Last time we were there female GI's use to play P4P. Not unless you get caught. TCN workers are hard to comeby and you have to do a lot of work. Did the area change a lot since we left?
All info will be highly appreciated.
Eu Contractor
05-24-06, 19:44
I have been here for three years as a civilian. Several people have claimed they could hook me up with p4p however none have come through.
On Liberty any pussy I have had was through networking and desperation (on both sides). All were married and away from home to long.
I have talked to some Iraqi guys about opening a house in the airport (off the base). Talk about a money maker. If we could get 25 girls from Dubai over here.
If I find anything I will post the info. If you find anything, ie: soldier p4p or tfb (trade for booze), please do the same.
Eu Contractor: Just make sure you don't get greedy. A couple offbase liquor stores still exist (especially outside ECP4) but they do so based on low volume as both MNF-I and IPG would happily shut them down. It is a good idea though if you can pull it off and you are right about the money maker. A buddy and I had a similiar idea and figured you could EASILY charge 500 euro a hour .. it is def a sellers market. Also those rates would keep the riff raff (e.g. private joe snuffy) away which is a good thing as troops couldn't keep something quite to save their lifes (and they don't hence the huge OPSEC issues and getting blown up over the leaks).
Also rumour has it the french village is back in business. A buddy of mine confirmed but haven't checked it out myself as I just left and not sure I honestly have any plans to go back :)
Eu Contractor
05-31-06, 19:39
Also rumour has it the french village is back in business. A buddy of mine confirmed but haven't checked it out myself as I just left and not sure I honestly have any plans to go back :)French Village is back you say?? Interesting. Please forward any and all info on this and I will be glad to test it out.
EU
Also rumour has it the french village is back in business. A buddy of mine confirmed but haven't checked it out myself as I just left and not sure I honestly have any plans to go back :)Do you mean the French Villiage outside of Liberty Gate? I thought that was just a place where locals lived that worked at BIAP.
PM if you wish.
I have been here for three years as a civilian. Several people have claimed they could hook me up with p4p however none have come through.
On Liberty any pussy I have had was through networking and desperation (on both sides). All were married and away from home to long.
I have talked to some Iraqi guys about opening a house in the airport (off the base). Talk about a money maker. If we could get 25 girls from Dubai over here.
If I find anything I will post the info. If you find anything, ie: soldier p4p or tfb (trade for booze), please do the same.
Thanks for the info. Defenitely will share all info if opportunity arises.
Has anyone heard of any action at the Al Hamra hotel neighborhood? I once had luck there after the invasion with a local girl but that was before all the "troubles".
Lebanese60
06-11-06, 19:02
I have been over a year in Erbil. Action is very hard to find.
The only luck I had was in Sheraton Hotel.
1. The old waitress in the chinese restaurant arranges for girls to call your room upon a good tip and being friendly and foreign. The girl was old 5/10 but service was 8/10 (or I guess I have been a long time without any action!). Cost was 100$.
2. There is a very pretty Baghdadi girl who hangs around with what she claims is her Husband. She does room calls.
I hope others will share experiences!
Lebanese60
06-11-06, 19:10
I have been over a year in Erbil. Action is very hard to find.
The only luck I had was in Sheraton Hotel.
1. The old waitress in the chinese restaurant arranges for girls to call your room upon a good tip and being friendly and foreign. The girl was old 5/10 but service was 8/10 (or I guess I have been a long time without any action!). Cost was 100$.
2. There is a very pretty Baghdadi girl who hangs around with what she claims is her Husband. She does room calls.
I hope others will share experiences!
I am here in the IZ (Int'l Zone, formerly known as the Green Zone), and all the rumors that I heard coming in about the Russian and Filipina gals working p4p 'on the side' is so patently false it almost makes me want to cry. While I was at the Kuwait Hilton all I heard from the Slayer guys was stories about cleaning girls who provide a cheap short time or some form of escort bizness running out of Adnan. While that shit happeded back in '03, it has been squarely dealt with.
I think I might go blind. I am already planning a big vacay in the PI where I will make up for lost time in an epic fashion. Then I'm going to Thailand, and maybe even Argentina, hell I've earned it.
[QUOTE=Tolstoy]I am here in the IZ (Int'l Zone, formerly known as the Green Zone), and all the rumors that I heard coming in about the Russian and Filipina gals working p4p 'on the side' is so patently false it almost makes me want to cry. While I was at the Kuwait Hilton all I heard from the Slayer guys was stories about cleaning girls who provide a cheap short time or some form of escort bizness running out of Adnan. While that shit happeded back in '03, it has been squarely dealt with.
That's true. Every philipina there told me that if caught they would get fired. However several of them had "boyfriends". I noticed that there where several Local women coming into Liberty base but I never saw them around. Maybe they where hired exclusively for the Brass.
Well, like everyone else I can offer no useful p4p information in Iraq. God how I've looked though! Anyway, at least I can help with the p4p outside of Iraq. Baghdad Airport is open for commerical flights and round trip tickets to Dubai are ~$400, flights everyday. Turkey is $800 and twice a week. The terminal has free (accidentally I think) uncensored internet so at least you can do some last minute forum check ups before your flight out to a better place. Hmmm. Me thinks there is money to be made in all arrangments made recreation trips to Dubai.
4 more soldiers accused of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), murder in iraq
by rick jervis and andrea stone, usa today
baghdad — four more soldiers were charged with [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and murder in connection with the slaying of a young iraqi woman and her family in mahmoudiya, south of baghdad, the u.s. military announced sunday.
another soldier was accused of failing to report the offenses but was not believed to be involved in the attack, a military statement said. the soldiers, who are from the 101st airborne division and whose names were not released, were charged saturday.
in all, six soldiers have been implicated in the march 12 incident, the latest of several alleged crimes by u.s. servicemembers in iraq. ex-soldier steven green was charged with one count of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and four counts of murder. he pleaded not guilty to killing the young woman, her parents and 5-year-old sister.
according to an fbi affidavit filed in green's case, green and others targeted the young woman for a week before the attack. army spokesman paul boyce said investigators were trying to determine the age of the young woman. military spokesman maj. mark wright said investigators have asked iraqi authorities to help navigate cultural sensitivities to exhume the body.
the soldiers drank alcohol, abandoned their checkpoint, changed clothes to avoid detection and headed to the victims' house, about 200 yards from a u.s. military checkpoint, the affidavit said.
iraqi prime minister nouri al-maliki last week called for an independent investigation. he also questioned why u.s. troops receive immunity from prosecution in iraqi courts for crimes committed there.
mahmoudiya mayor mouayad fadhil applauded the new charges and said he hopes the united states continues to investigate.
the top u.s. commander in iraq, gen. george casey jr., and u.s. ambassador zalmay khalilzad issued an apology last week for the mahmoudiya incident, saying, "the alleged events of that day are absolutely inexcusable and unacceptable behavior."
military investigators are looking into at least five incidents in which u.s. troops are accused of killing iraqi civilians. among them: the alleged killings by marines of 24 iraqis in haditha in november.
the string of recent allegations hurts u.s. and iraqi government efforts to win over ordinary citizens and undermines support for the insurgency.
"stories like this accusation and the others are like losing a battle," says andrew krepinevich of the center for strategic and budgetary assessments, a defense policy group. "whether they're true or not, they can be viewed as a significant setback for us."
Naked Gunz
10-23-06, 06:51
I spent a year in this hell hole, but didn't even think to report on it. Who the hell would check this thread?! I was a contractor at TQ, and the overwhelming amount of contractors there are KBR. They have their own little city set up there. Some supervisors there have it pretty sweet with nice trailors, Sat TV, huge fridges and some with running water. Independants like me had to live with USMC, and USMC aint happy unless they live in shit, then make it worse.
The few females they had there were a good enough distraction- some even very hot. But you had to be the lucky mofo to get with one of them. Well I got lucky. When I got there in Jan. it was pretty chilly and most folks were bundled up good. I was on the bus riding to work and I noticed some very bundled up guy getting off the bus had a fairly nice ass. I'm thinking to myself" I just got here and some guys ass looks good! This is gonna be a long f*uckin year!"
As I got to work and the guy starts taking off hat, jacket, overcoat,scarf and copius amounts of sh8t I see it's a tall ass woman! Whew!
I decide next time I see her I'll make my move. In the chow hall, I made that move and startled her, but she seemed to like the boldness and told me to come to her trailer.Which I certainly did. Turns out it wasn't her trailor, but a supervisor on leave that let her use it. He's obviously lettin her get comfy so he can start bangin her when he gets back. When I got there she was drinking cough medicine for a buzz. I went and retieved my smuggled in half gal. of vodka for us. We talk for awhile and she asked me for a massage. BINGO BANGO I'm in the door. Lucky I brought condoms to Iraq, although I never thought I'd need them. For the next couple of weeks, I'm doin her daily till the guy comes back.
She got transfered to Kuwait and there went my f*uck buddy.
There is all kinds of clandestine action in that place. Another contractor got kicked out for doin a female Marine. Marines were in port a pottys after dark screwin. All kinds of stuff is goin on. Luck has to be with you.
If you have a National Air Cargo rep on your base, whatever it takes to get in his good grace, YOU NEED TO DO!! They fly all over Iraq and the last stop after TQ is Dubai. I flew with them about 4 times and avoided having to leave Iraq via the military and going to boring Kuwait. I even did a quick weekend trip to Dubai which was a blast.
Keep your heads low gents!
MrC
With a great report. Honestly I go around the world and the info I get here is way better than the NYT or the economist.
All I hear all day long from my Iraqi counterparts is "Tomorrow I will go to the brothel and my favorite b***h will BLANK and BLANK and then we will BLANK". All for a pittance in terms of $$$. All I can do is stand there looking off into space, recalling something from my long ago called 'pootang' and being pretty sure that I liked it very much.
Then this same group of Iraqi counterparts will offer to buy me a dishdashe, a turban, a hookah, in other words useless crap. I tell them no: I want a ho. They look at me with pity. "This is the one thing we can't bring you...".
"Oh yeah? Well it is the only thing you have in the Red Zone that I need." Well... actually that one creampie DVD they brought me was actually pretty useful, but then I got a roommate and well, what use is it now?
I feel like Shakespeare's Richard III: "A HOrse, a HOrse, my kingdom for a HOrse", except in this case you drop RSE off of horse, and by kingdom I mean any cash amount I could reasonably get my hands on. You get the idea.
Not long before I got here there used to be a "Baghdad Country Club" up by the palace. Basically it was a small restaurant with a liquor store and girls for hire. But some jerk-off had to open his mouth and there was a crack down in the name of freedom, mom, and apple pie. Actually it was more like an anti-P4P jihad. And we wonder why marines are going nuts and contractors like me are charging ridiculous money. At least in Vietnam they had the "Oh, me so horny" girls. Here getting hit on involves an errant mortar round or some big guy named Osama who likes the fact that we don't behead homosexuals in America and does the traditional Arabic meet-and-greet hug-and-handshake just a little bit too long, and a little too close.
I am sure that someone will discover something by the time I leave. A few more weeks and I will be off to single-handedly cause a spike in the GDP of Thailand, Cambodia, and Phils in that order in as many months. Hope to see some of you there.
I have been here for over 9 months straight. Take my advice... do not come here for more than four months at a time between R&R. At least go to Dubai and hit the Zodiac once every four months. Unless you are lucky enough to work in the red zone (never thought I'd ever say that) or have a large enough schwang to beat off every other Tom, DICK, and Harry trying to put wood to every living snaggle-tooth female to step off as chopper YOU WILL GO INSANE. Just look at me!
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Dodger Bulldog
01-20-07, 22:42
At least here is one good thing the U.S. did for Iraq! An article from msnbc.com: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16717237/
"Temporary 'enjoyment marriages' back in Iraq"
You can read the full article at: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553462&postcount=2877
DB
There is at least one brothel in the IZ by the NEC in the tan colored apartment complexes. I paid $100 last night for a 6-7 24 yo widow. The only caveat is that you need to have a place where the girls can spend the night. The place isn't really an in-house operation, but rather is like a cat-house where girls from outside the IZ come to meet potential clients. I found the place through one of my Iraqi drivers who lives in the complex so I guess I am very lucky. I am only assuming--I've been in Iraq for less than a week--but I think an Iraqi guide is a sine quo non to getting the party started. I got the impression that not too many non-nationals frequent the place.
The girls there were all working I assume but they are not hardened pros. I was really nervous so I didn't get a complete grapple on the vibe of the place but many of the girls seemed to me to be looking for mononogmous relationships in exchange for sponsorship. Within a few hours of the girl hanging out in my compound she started yapping about being my "honey" in Iraq; she also beeped me 41 times today. I think I will take her up on her offer as she is pretty good looking and speaks decent English.
Damn near everyone in Iraq is more security conscious than I am but the IZ is palpably much less secure/safe than it was when I was here 20 months ago--something like 4000 Iraqis living in the IZ and most of them are unvetted...plus ones with escort badges can take up to 15 of their homeys into the IZ with them at any given time.
Please be careful men. This place is getting more violent by the pay cycle.
Six Days in Baghdad and I found some Ass!!!Well done Dirk. If she's good-looking and speaks English, you've found a keeper. As one of many young widows in Iraq, she's doing this out of necessity and not for a lifestyle, so you know what she wants (the "R" word). Could be a good two-way thing. Also, Iraqi women are usually pretty hot when they're young. Keep us posted.
DD,
You are a fortunate man to find ass here in the IZ so quickly. I live here and it took me 4 months to get my connections. We have a PSD team contact who brings us these Iraqi cuties but dangerous it is. Is this area you mention, across from the NEC in those high rise apartments? I go there about 3 nights a week for the broasted chicken and swarmas, but never noticed any potential activity.
Thanks for that interesting info.
Jon, I don't think that one could obtain entrance to the cat-house that I found without being accompanied by an Iraqi who is close to the owner--I think the guy who owns the place is the brother of my driver. I tried to go back solo and the IP would not let me in the complex.
I may have been lucky by finding some *****s but I sure as hell was not three days ago when my convoy was shot up. This place is not for me--no matter how many hazard, post, and 6th day bumps I get. My first foray out into the Red Zone—or the National Zone as it’s now called —will be my last. Good luck to all you men that remain.
On a slightly different note, it's funny the way people react when faced with life and death situations. My boss, a 50ish WASPy female, was stoically calm and was cracking jokes as a VED took out the disabled lead car in the convoy. The former Navy Cmdr sitting next to me shit and pissed himself while constantly emitting something between a sob and a howl. As for myself, I became incredibly angry at both everyone and no one, slouched down, and mumbled profanities for the eight minutes the firefight lasted.
Dirk,
I talk to many of you hired guns that go out in the Red Zone doing your VIP escorting and don't envy you a bit. I don't know if you are with AEGIS, but a fine bunch of thrill seekers they are. I'm fortunate that I do what I do then Black Hawk out of here to the next place of work. God bless the folks that have to travel out in the red zone. Hell, I like it here even with all the incoming morter fire, so I must be a thrill seeker too.
Went in the said complex the other day just looking about but would never go in someplace without the escort. Just curious where some of these places are as we hear about where to get massages, no happy ending, Chinese resturant, etc.
Good luck on your next assignment! If you feel up to it, how bout a beer and cus cus at the Blue Star resturant before you get out of here.
Artanis1443
02-23-07, 17:59
First of all, good luck for those of you who landed a job in the Baghdad area, you've got balls. Secondly, try flying out to the Kurdish areas, especially Sullaymania. A couple of years ago Sullaymania was where all the locals and foreigners in the North would go to get laid. I went there a few times for work, and even though I didn't get a chance to sample the locals (did get a BBC intern), they were absolutely gorgeous. A lot of these girls are Kurds comming in from Iran where women are very liberal when it comes to sex. And now I hear there are a lot of Persian girls fleeing Iran who have decided to earn money doing something they really like, having sex. I know the flights from Baghdad to Arbil are cheap, and you can take a very safe taxi ride to Sullaimania from Arbil for 60-100 dollars, or about 20 dollars if you ride with locals. I think you can also fly in straight to the Sullaimania airport from Baghdad, but I don't know too much about it. And this region is nothing like the South, there's not much crime here and you can walk around without security. Last time I was there I was getting offers and quotes for 100 dollars for the whole night. I'm sure prices might have gone up, but damn, these girls are worth it. And persian girls love anal.
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Jon,
My work isn't security related at all. I would have loved to go to the overpriced--10 bucks for nasty fried rice-- RTI compound for a beer but I have already left Baghdad.
Lucky for you that you travel far enough to take a Blackhawk. I visited the ministries a few times each week in Baghdad so it wasn't feasible to take a chopper for the 3-5 mile journey.
The Chinese restaurant next to CASH never gave extra services as far as I'm aware--just an unprofessional clothed massage.
Artanis,
Thanks for the tip about the chicas in Kurdistan, but I want to make a slight comment on the practicality on your suggestion. Let me preface my statement by saying that I work for one of--if not the-- most lenient organizations in Iraq.
First, it's Iraq and you can't just hop on plane and go pussyhunting to Erbil for a number of reasons. Unless you are based at Victory you have to take a PSD team to the BIAP. The MAMBA journey costs 700 each way and even if you are the COP and could somehow get the trip scheduled how could you justify invoicing the client for the journey. If you didn't invoice the client for it that would raise even more flags. Second, most people here are under very strict security guidelines. I'd say 80% of the people in Iraq can't leave their compounds. And 90% of the people here are working 6-7 days a week 12 hours a day. The people at KBR work everyday for six months at a time. This is a good thing as people would do silly things if they weren't too dead tired to do them. Finally, many, but not all, companies here have personal conduct guidelines so you really have to watch who you tell what you do. What business does one have in Kurdistan? Some people can get away with murder in Iraq--I mean that literally--and other civilians will get sent home for having a beer. Getting sent home and loosing your six figure tax free salary is something you should consider when looking for P4P in Iraq.
But, yea, if you based in Kurdistan you can have a more decent time than if you’re in the Arab areas.
Super6stud9
02-27-07, 04:00
Damn the IED's, anal sex with Persian girls makes it worth it.
make love , not war.
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And this region is nothing like the South, there's not much crime here and you can walk around without security. Last time I was there I was getting offers and quotes for 100 dollars for the whole night. I'm sure prices might have gone up, but damn, these girls are worth it. And ***persian girls love anal.***
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Super6stud9
02-27-07, 04:22
he he he.
Seek and you shall find.
I love greek.
Lebanese60
04-28-07, 07:47
Can you be more specific on where to go in Sulaymania?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Artanis1443]First of all, good luck for those of you who landed a job in the Baghdad area, you've got balls. Secondly, try flying out to the Kurdish areas, especially Sullaymania.
Signs of life in Iraqi
http://www.fucd.com/index.php?link=1030
Lebanese60
05-06-07, 08:12
Erbil is changing fast:
Sheraton has opened the first nightclub in town. Located on the 9th floor the club has 2 Russian girls and 2 Baghdadi girls. You will get service if you get to know the manager and stay at the hotel (costy).
Plaza Hotel Massage Parlour: Located in the basement of the hotel, Two Thai ladies offer massage and extras. Room service is possible if you stay at hotel.
Khanzad Hotel Massage Parlour: Located in health club in basement, offers hand service if you get to know the manager.
Ainkawa Brothel: There is a house in Ainkawa with Baghdadi girls working for 150$. I still am to find loaction.
Independant Noura: Comes to you, but needs to make sure you are safe.
Good luck guys!
Artanis1443
05-21-07, 22:59
Lebanese 60, Erbil is definitely changing fast. Sorry, I don’t have any more current first hand information about Sullaymania, I haven’t been there in a while. I know from a lot of reliable second hand info that there is a lot going on over there regarding prostitution, and as soon as I finish my current work I’ll head out there with some friends that know the area and post some first hand accounts.
I have a little more info about Erbil, although currently I’m not in a situation where I’m by myself for more than an hour or two during a 24 hour day. This will change in a month, so I’ll have more info then. Here’s what I can add:
If you’re a regular in Erbil, the German restaurant in Ainkawa has rooms you can rent beside it, every taxi driver in the city knows where it is, it’s near the street where you have to register with the local security if you’re a foreigner. The owner of the restaurant is pretty cool, and will let you stay there with a guest no questions asked (40-70 dollars per night, cheaper than any other place). Now as far as finding a ‘guest’, I’ve seen a few Arab girls there flirting with people, they're most likely pros, I’ll find out soon.
If you want to find a ‘regular’ girl, you can try the Edge bar also in Ainkawa, down the street from the Beirut bar. All of the foreigners go there Thursday nights. Most of the foreign girls are sex starved and are always looking for someone to charm them if you’re up for it. So if you succeed there, head out to the German restaurant afterwards and get a room (privacy is difficult to come by for most foreigners, especially women).
How do you get in touch with this Noura?
Take care and stay safe!
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http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/15/iraq.prostitution/?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
"They have been driven to sell their bodies to put food on the table for their children -- for as little as $8 a day."
Can someone give us a trip report? thanks!
James Chun
11-23-07, 09:41
Can any one give some informantion on ainkawa or ervil area?
I been here for 4 month and need some info or contact for you know what.
Lebanese60
01-22-08, 09:20
Ain Kawa is a conservative Christian neighbourhood north of Erbil. There is no "evil" area. However compared to rest of Erbil it offers some bars and alchohol shops.
The action is very discrete. It mainly is run by non-Ain Kawa girls (from other parts of Iraq. Mainly Baghdad). They are very hard to get accross, and they need a word of Mouth recommendation that you are "safe" (foreigner who will not get them in legal trouble). I was introduced to Noura by a friend.
There is also some street action (very discrete). I was once driving at sunset at the corner leading to "Happy Time" restaurant from the small rounabout. I was getting out of a meeting and looked sharp in a suit driving a good car. A girl waiting at what looks like a bus stop smiled to me (she knew I was not local from the way I dressed and the vehicle I drove. If you drive a Toyota 4x4 then they assume most propably you are a government official! ).
I couldn't stop in traffic so I went around the block and back to where she was waiting. I stopped the car in front of her and she greeted me as if she knew me to confuse passers by. She said her name was Suzan a 23 year old from some village in North. She was delighted that I was a foreigner. I went straight to the point that I am interstted in sex, and for 150$ she went back to my place.
I hope the above helps!
Lebanese60: I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox is disabled. Are you in Iraq right now? I am heading to northern Iraq in a few weeks on business and wondering whether you (or anyone else) might want to get together for exploring the mongering scene. Send me a PM. Cheers.
Professor 1
03-10-08, 21:31
Lebanese60: I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox is disabled. Are you in Iraq right now? I am heading to northern Iraq in a few weeks on business and wondering whether you (or anyone else) might want to get together for exploring the mongering scene. Send me a PM. Cheers.
Please post what you find after you arrive in the north. I have a job interview soon, and want to assess all possible options if things work out.
Professor 1
03-10-08, 21:33
She was delighted that I was a foreigner. I went straight to the point that I am interstted in sex, and for 150$ she went back to my place.
You did not mention the currency. Is that US$150 or dinars?? As I understand it, Dinar$150 is about US$15.
You did not mention the currency. Is that US$150 or dinars?? As I understand it, Dinar$150 is about US$15.
Actually, 150 Iraqi Dinars is about 15 U.S. CENTS! I'm sure he meant U.S. dollars, which is the preferred currency in Iraq.
Lebanese60
03-16-08, 19:54
Lebanese60: I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox is disabled. Are you in Iraq right now? I am heading to northern Iraq in a few weeks on business and wondering whether you (or anyone else) might want to get together for exploring the mongering scene. Send me a PM. Cheers.I guess I need to renew my subscription to get access to my PMs. Oh well
If you are coming from UAE to Kurdistan then good luck! Mongering is 50 years behind in here.
I had the $ sign (after the 150!) Yes it is $USD.
Yes I am still in Kurdistan. If you are smart you may get to me by using my nationality followed by underscore then "in" then underscore then the capital of Iraq at the other major male than the hut male!! Good luck!
So, I was at The Edge bar in Erbil recently. It is located on the U.S. compound in Ainkawa district. Several ex-military types told me there is indeed a WG place in Ainkawa but I could not get the location out of them, despite many rounds of beers to loosen things up! However, I did learn that it is located in a Chinese restaurant which is a "front" for the brothel. I walked around Ainkawa and asked several dozen people but have still failed to locate it.
Ok, I am here in the IZ and I know there has got to be some action here because, i have been to a liquor store, a bar, and i can only imagine what else is out here. i would appreciate any guidance.
rev333
If you are coming from UAE to Kurdistan then good luck! Mongering is 50 years behind in here.A mate of mine came back from Kurdi and had an expression for the place: " over euthusiastic ameteurs. They know what they want to do, and believe there should be some money in it at the end, but from A. B not sure how to go. " Is it still the same? Maybe that is a good thing then. Places that used to be fun, are getting to be not so fun anymore.
Hey Guys,
Mongering in the IZ is difficult but not impossible. You can try some of the bars, if you have acess to the Palace try the Lock and Load on Thursday night, nothing for sale you have to be charming. Also if you have acess to the Palace try the pool on wed / thur nights some of the local girls that work there work on the side, they will smile at you if thier working.
If you can get out try walking out to gate 10 and 11 (Karada) thats a gold mine if you hit it at the right time, takes a little work and they have to get to know you, offer them a ride to or from work get there numbers and remember no calls only texts, they won't talk to a pink face in town.
Also the 215 Apartments are a good source but again you have to be very discrete.
Lastly if you can get out and travel around depending on your business stop at all the Iraqi companies, they usually have some friendly women (local and Filipina) working there, spend some time with the owner have Chia talk business and look for an invite to a party or approach the girls as you leave, drop a card and ask them to call you.
Lastly a new Chinese resturant is opening, he is being extremly careful because of the IZ police (American MP's) but take your time to get to know him and you can have your take out delivered.
Good Luck and keep at it
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great info buddy, a few questions though.
can you provide alittle more on the 215 apts?
whats the going rate poolside.
im still having trouble locating the l&l but i thought it was only open on fridays.
do these girls speak english, or have a contact number? what are some of the other hints they drop, is there a name i should look out for?
thx in advance
rev333
Hey REV,
The 215 Apartments, now that its June its best in the evening, Just walk around have a chi and look for eye contact, you'll know if there approachable. Depending on who you work for and your freedom of movement means alot, hang around Karata Gate (11) just outside or the walk in over the bridge. The chinese resturant is operating, I stopped for a beer the ladys are old, way past there prime but supposedly some locals can be had, order a beer and ask the lady about a massage and she will take your phone number Iraqna or Asia cell no MCI.
If you have access to the Palace Pool, Salsa and Karaoke are good nights, look for the L3 ladies sitting together thier is one that looks like an old Cleopatra, stop and chat. Freedom Pool is good on those same nights but you have to be charming with the Ex-Pats.
Prices vary it could be anywhere from 20 to a 100 usd depend on where and what you hook up with. I can't give specifics (I may have to pony up the $20 bucks for PM priveledges) but a girl from the outside is almost definitly semi-pro and usually a lot of fun and always needs a shower.
Relax and have fun with it you can hook up look at all the marriages taking place and you know most of them will be left behind.
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Hell REV,
I forgot, if you have access to the Palace, two words, AREA 52. Look for the funny Khaki uniforms and the TCN, s. Not sure of prices but definitly working, hook up at Camp Hope DEFAC breakfast and dinner or Camp Jackson DEFAC at lunchtime. Can't miss them.
Happy hunting
well as it has it, i have had no luck. ive been to the palace pool, and the chinese place several times. im a little scared to try 215. is there a particular one at the chinese place i need to talk to, none of them seem to speak engrish.
rev333
Hey REV,
The chinese resturant is operating, I stopped for a beer the ladys are old, way past there prime but supposedly some locals can be had, order a beer and ask the lady about a massage and she will take your phone number Iraqna or Asia cell no MCI.The Chinese restaurant looks dodgy enough that there could be things going on other than the bad Chinese food. My questions is - do they have places to carry out the action in? Private space in the IZ seems hard to come by!
The Chinese restaurant looks dodgy enough that there could be things going on other than the bad Chinese food. My questions is - do they have places to carry out the action in? Private space in the IZ seems hard to come by!
see thats the thing, i have tried to read into them but cant get anything from them because of the language barrier. i might try droppin by number on a slip of paper to see what happens. do you know of any action anywhere?
Hello Boyz:
I just re-deployed out of Victory after a year. There are some places to get carry out on base mostly PP4P Pilipno Pay 4 Pussy, can't be picky in theater.
I use to have a Bosnian Girl in the IZ, but she went home
Also there is a place about a half click outside the wire if you got the heart and game, that in call and contraband is available. I will disclose deatils to trusted Senior members or any soldier, not skanky officers that can convince me they are not an MP or following General Order #1.
Killing the pussy back at home.
Big Red50
Big Red 50,
Welcome back. I did ten months at Victory. No mongering; the base is locked up too tight. The only action going on was the young military personnel getting it on with each other; sometimes unwillingly. I was surprised at the number of sexual assaults that took place at Victory Base while I was there. Of course, the brass did its best to cover up as many of them as possible. This tour was quite different from my first in 2004. In 2004, I was in the IZ. I hooked up with an Iraqi woman working for Laudes, an Arab company doing contracting work in the IZ. She was looking to supplement the lousy $30 a month they were paying her to do janitorial work. It was terrific sex. Make no mistake about it; most Iraqi women know just as much about sex as western women.
Member #3447
01-26-09, 19:37
hello boys!
we need to get our mongering intel up to speed in here. yep, i heard about those filipina p4p outside the wire. i may check it out one of these days. i'm a civilian contractor now having finally retired from active military service after 21+ years.
my goal is find a white girl on base that's trying to make some extra money...possible?
hello ho:
if you mean white american fugetaboutit, all expats make to much money to sell pussy for $, $$, $$$. most of he white women are chasing studly soldiers, iraq is a cougars paradise. there are some eastern european women but they make $4-$5000/month most speak english and work for contrcators. the pilipino and sri lankens only make $6-700/month more potential for p4p. banging an iraqi will get you sent home if hey catch you general order#1.
good luck with the white chicks
big red
hello boys!
we need to get our mongering intel up to speed in here. yep, i heard about those filipina p4p outside the wire. i may check it out one of these days. i'm a civilian contractor now having finally retired from active military service after 21+ years.
my goal is find a white girl on base that's trying to make some extra money...possible?
Hello Tripod:
The Iz always had better pickings, you could find PP4P Pilipino Pay 4 Pussy at Liberty Pool on Salasa night Wed and Sat and Kararoke night on Mondays. Just go and when you see one give you the nod just go strike up a conversation YMMV.
Big Red
Big Red 50,
Welcome back. I did ten months at Victory. No mongering; the base is locked up too tight. The only action going on was the young military personnel getting it on with each other; sometimes unwillingly. I was surprised at the number of sexual assaults that took place at Victory Base while I was there. Of course, the brass did its best to cover up as many of them as possible. This tour was quite different from my first in 2004. In 2004, I was in the IZ. I hooked up with an Iraqi woman working for Laudes, an Arab company doing contracting work in the IZ. She was looking to supplement the lousy $30 a month they were paying her to do janitorial work. It was terrific sex. Make no mistake about it; most Iraqi women know just as much about sex as western women.
Dear friends,
I may accept a job as a linguist in Iraq,thus I need your feedback.To begin,is Iraq relatively safe now,and are wages and living conditions satisfactory?
On another note,I am Arabic speaking and Arab looking,so could I easily connect with local girls and women?
Although I am not earning a six figure salary here in Morocco,I am at least safe and comfortable.Consequently,I fear that I will jump out of the pan into the fire.Please give me your feedback.Thank you.
Member #3447
02-25-09, 08:52
I hear ya, Big Red. I was hoping (dreaming really) that I'll meet some young E-2/E-3 trying to make some extra cash with us contractors/expats at the VBC.
Hello Ho:
If you mean White American FUGETABOUTIT, all expats make to much money to sell pussy for $, $$, $$$. Most of he white women are chasing studly soldiers, Iraq is a Cougars paradise. There are some eastern european women but they make $4-$5000/month most speak english and work for contrcators. The Pilipino and Sri Lankens only make $6-700/month more potential for P4P. Banging an Iraqi will get you sent home if hey catch you General Order#1.
Good luck with the white chicks
Big Red
Ho_Chaser: Its definitely happening, I remember that shit from when I was there in '05. The problem is most of the lower enlisted who are selling their shit are doing it to other lower enlisted and young non-coms ... not officers or senior enlisted (who they are fucking for free for benefits) and not contractors (as they don't roll in our circles so hard to make that contact .. plenty of dumb LT / CPT pussy though thats *dating* or trading for booze as opposed to p4p)
Your best bet if you want a western is either make friend with some lower enlisted / young non-com at the G staff level (plenty of them) and then do the "date thing" (I call it dating but your really trading alcohol and non-sleaziness for their pussy and them feeling empowered).
Also I don't know about now but when I was there booze was worth its weight in gold (and easy to get off base and bring in .. was off base liquor store right off Irish) .... trading booze for sex was easier than finding p4p ... my guess is they feel less whorish about sucking you off for a bottle of vodka :) .. but that was years ago so YMMV
Big Red: You got me rolling here. I hadn't even thought about the couger paradise angle though you are definitely correct .. I remember we had two male contractors, both mid to late 20's, one sleep with a female LTC and one with a female COL.
One of my Iraqi employees (a serious monger) tells me that the going FS rates are USD 200 inside the IZ and USD 100 outside.
I'll chase him for further details.
Anyone tried the new Chinese massage place in the IZ?
Anyone tried the new Chinese massage place in the IZ?
I poked my head into the massage place - unfortunately it looks legit, with 3 girls offering standard massage services for USD40 per hr.
Does anyone have any differing experiences?
There was an Iraqi girl offering ST for USD 100 per pop at a party I went to the other night, so P4P is available if you look around.
Errol Flynn
04-18-09, 23:28
Interesting article in today's New York Times about P4P in Bagdad: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/world/middleeast/19baghdad.html?hp
Someone knows something about Erbil?
Many thnx in advance
Jose Marcia
05-31-09, 05:24
I hope my reply is not too late. I was in Iraq in April '09 and covered about 75% of the area.
When you travel around, the security is very tight and you will feel very safe. Always you have to go through two levels of security. However, do not be fooled by that. Bomb explosions still exist and I dodged them twice. Wages are very low and living conditions are not worth. Even 5 star hotel suck big time!
Unless you want to marry a local woman, I won't advice you to go for a local. However, there is always an exception.
Jose Marcia
Dear friends,
I may accept a job as a linguist in Iraq,thus I need your feedback.To begin,is Iraq relatively safe now,and are wages and living conditions satisfactory?
On another note,I am Arabic speaking and Arab looking,so could I easily connect with local girls and women?
Although I am not earning a six figure salary here in Morocco,I am at least safe and comfortable.Consequently,I fear that I will jump out of the pan into the fire.Please give me your feedback.Thank you.
Lostwodpun
06-06-09, 19:00
I poked my head into the massage place - unfortunately it looks legit, with 3 girls offering standard massage services for USD40 per hr.
Does anyone have any differing experiences?
There was an Iraqi girl offering ST for USD 100 per pop at a party I went to the other night, so P4P is available if you look around.Massage is ok, but thats about all you will get there.
On the same road I got a big smile and a hello as I drove by from what looked to be a chinese girl. Made it all the way out to the main road before the light bulb came on, I drove back and did not see where she went. Couple weeks later on the same road I picked up what I thought was an NGO needing a ride but was a really cute local, she said she was needing work. Got her number and talked she was game for a paying BF but I lost my phone and her number with it.
Found a good girl so I have slowed down the hunt a little, but still keeping my eyes open.
Brian Scole
03-19-10, 19:04
I need information about erbil in Kurdistan.
Many thanks
Snaf Fu123
04-21-10, 18:45
I am heading up there very soon. I will give some information when I get there.
I need information about erbil in Kurdistan.
Many thanks
Jeep Grand
04-23-10, 05:35
I might be moving soon to Basra. Can you please tell me what is the security situation over there? how safe Basra is?
Regards
Snaf Fu123
05-10-10, 01:56
Well there is NOTHING here as far as the AMERICAN eye can see.
I've seen what the cabi's call "Fiki-Fiki", with red lights over the windows but Ive yet to venture there yet. YET being the key word. Ive found Turkish belly dancers and a few native's who seem like they will eventually lighten up. Other than that tho, there is no guaranteed game up here.
Member #3447
08-15-10, 09:39
I recently received some strong intel from a LN who works with me in the company regarding a cathouse in the Baghdad area (Red Zone). Yes, he is an Iraqi monger as well...young kid.
So, I asked him what's the possibility of getting one of these ho's into the FOB (entry memo needed) for some P4P business and he replied pretty good considering we have our own LSA here.
Further info from him later revealed that this one particular ho (a 24-year old) has a current yellow, Iraq-wide - Sweeettt! So, we're trying to arrange for this ho to visit me sometime in the next week...apparently, no need for an ETP entry memo as she has a yellow USF-I badge. We'll see and I'll post further info as this develops. I can't wait!
I'm a contractor stuck on Adder (Tallil) for a week. Any intel on young enlisted soldiers looking to make a few bucks. I am contractor, so I can afford it. Just don't know where to look.
CJ
Hey guys,
Does anyone know anybody doing P4P on Taji? Americans are preferred, military, contract whatever. TCNs are a far second. LNs are not an option.
Thanks
Hey guys,
Does anyone know anybody doing P4P on Taji? Americans are preferred, military, contract whatever. TCNs are a far second. LNs are not an option.
ThanksStill nothing? Pm me if you have any leads please. I'll trade info on any of the other locales I do have info on.
Thanks
Looks like I will be deploying to Iraq in Jan 2011, anyone got any tips for some mongering or p4p? Any tips will be greatly appreciated. I read through most of the posts here but the info looks a bit dated.
Thanks guys!
Hacksaw
Bigbadbunnyman
12-04-10, 00:23
BBBJ queen follow up
Happy, yes, I think so. I don't remember exactly but she was NOT in the glass doors, so we must be talking the same girl. Usually, at least in the afternoons when its slow, she'll be sitting in a small chair reading a book.
So, I went for a another round a day or so ago. First I tried Maehara thinking I could find a new pretty girl for target practice, but none of them were willing to take a load on the face. I am pretty sure I found the elusive fantasia girl as well. She was at "qp" that shopp thats down the very small little hall, leading to the mini parking lot. She was one of the best lookers out that day that was gaijin friendly, so I asked but, no COF for her either.
Eventually, I went back to Yosh, asked around, got a few "no"s and then decided to settle for another round with BOOTS girl, even though double dipping is something I don't like to do.
Get in there, ask about COF, get the ok, with a little smile/laugh since she recognized e from last time I think.
Come in for the BBBJ and DAMN! Every bit as awesome as last time, crazy enthusiam, and the occasional gag or burp after she tries a little too hard. That girl never worked at QP. That was another one.
You are completly right. I was in the IZ about 2 years ago. I was there for 13 months. Had easy access to older women. Like wise all females are willing to give it up for some alcohol.
Ho_Chaser: Its definitely happening, I remember that shit from when I was there in '05. The problem is most of the lower enlisted who are selling their shit are doing it to other lower enlisted and young non-coms. Not officers or senior enlisted (who they are fucking for free for benefits) and not contractors (as they don't roll in our circles so hard to make that contact. Plenty of dumb LT / CPT pussy though thats *dating* or trading for booze as opposed to p4p)
Your best bet if you want a western is either make friend with some lower enlisted / young non-com at the G staff level (plenty of them) and then do the "date thing" (I call it dating but your really trading alcohol and non-sleaziness for their pussy and them feeling empowered).
Also I don't know about now but when I was there booze was worth its weight in gold (and easy to get off base and bring in. Was off base liquor store right off Irish). Trading booze for sex was easier than finding p4p. My guess is they feel less whorish about sucking you off for a bottle of vodka. . But that was years ago so YMMV.
Big Red: You got me rolling here. I hadn't even thought about the couger paradise angle though you are definitely correct. I remember we had two male contractors, both mid to late 20's, one sleep with a female LTC and one with a female COL.
Member #3447
02-24-11, 06:44
Arrived at the hotel last night and immediately checked out the 9th floor bar at around 11 PM. No joy. Besides one dude, there were ZERO women there. WTF?
I'll check again tonight during the early evening. See if it's different.
Any help from anyone regarding WG contacts and / or tips, I would greatly appreciate it.
On a positive note, at least the ISG site is not blocked like in Dubai.
Member #3447
03-04-11, 11:09
The Sheraton aka Erbil International Hotel is now a red hotel and no WGs are to be found. There is definitely very discrete action out here which revolves around word-of-mouth and personal contacts.
There has been persistent talk about a Chinese restaurant front in Ainkawa from the terps working for the Americans; however, every time I attempt to ask them about it, they shy away and say that it is all bullshit. From the US military here, I believe it exists but the locals just don't want to share the location with a new unknown foreigner like me. It's a matter of trust, I guess. Rumor has it that a diverse menu. Africans, Iraqis, Chinese can be had.
I was able to hook up with sem-pro Arab girls who are known among certain expats here. I hooked up with "Joana" and fucked her the expats' company compound. It was not like a Dubai experience, but I scored. Paid her $150 for an overnight session. Average. Nothing to brag about but it was my very first Iraqi / Arab / Muslim score.
I met a Christian who lives in Ainkawa as well through these same expats. I will call her tonight but do not really know where to bring her. This seems to be a problem here unless one has his own place.
Please don't ask me for their numbers as they will probably not want to meet you since they do not know any of you. Such is the mongering environment in this area.
Alan Duval
03-28-11, 14:53
I've heard vague rumors that the Chinese restaurants here are only fronts, but I can't get they system figured out. I've gone into a few where there are more waitresses standing around than men at the tables, and just sat there, drinking. Cash in pocket, ready to go and fairly desperate out here. But I can't figure out how to make the connection. When I get up to go, they sometimes ask why I'm leaving so soon. So twice I've returned to my place to see if anything develops. But nothing.
Of course, I would RTTF if there were any info in it!
Any suggestions that don't involve a passport and a plane ticket?
The Sheraton aka Erbil International Hotel is now a red hotel and no WGs are to be found. There is definitely very discrete action out here which revolves around word-of-mouth and personal contacts.
There has been persistent talk about a Chinese restaurant front in Ainkawa from the terps working for the Americans; however, every time I attempt to ask them about it, they shy away and say that it is all bullshit. From the US military here, I believe it exists but the locals just don't want to share the location with a new unknown foreigner like me. It's a matter of trust, I guess. Rumor has it that a diverse menu. Africans, Iraqis, Chinese can be had.
I was able to hook up with sem-pro Arab girls who are known among certain expats here. I hooked up with "Joana" and fucked her the expats' company compound. It was not like a Dubai experience, but I scored. Paid her $150 for an overnight session. Average. Nothing to brag about but it was my very first Iraqi / Arab / Muslim score.
I met a Christian who lives in Ainkawa as well through these same expats. I will call her tonight but do not really know where to bring her. This seems to be a problem here unless one has his own place.
Please don't ask me for their numbers as they will probably not want to meet you since they do not know any of you. Such is the mongering environment in this area.
Member #3447
04-02-11, 10:16
I've heard vague rumors that the Chinese restaurants here are only fronts, but I can't get they system figured out. I've gone into a few where there are more waitresses standing around than men at the tables, and just sat there, drinking. Cash in pocket, ready to go and fairly desperate out here. But I can't figure out how to make the connection. When I get up to go, they sometimes ask why I'm leaving so soon. So twice I've returned to my place to see if anything develops. But nothing.
Of course, I would RTTF if there were any info in it!
Any suggestions that don't involve a passport and a plane ticket? Alan,
Here is my recommendation since everything moves kinda slow up there. Leave them your business card or contact number. If they call you, then game on. That approach seems to be the best way to get things started. If they're interested in some P4P, they will call you via your contact number. I am coming back there at the end of the month. I will try using the same approach, and will also try calling back that Christian chick. My problem is the hotel I will be staying in is not girl-friendly. I will have to figure this one out until at which time I can get a more permanent lodging. Hopefully at the English or Italian Villages.
Lastly, check out the Beirut Bar in Ainkawa...the girls who work there also earn money on the side outside work hours. They're sisters. Move slow...and give them your contact info. Their English skills are very rudimentary at best, but what the heck, right?
When I lived in Germany where there are plenty of Turks and Kurds fiki fiki was the general Lingo of going out for a shag or getting laid in general. I suspect that cab driver prob spend a bit of time over there.
Ill be breazing through the region in September maybe- so has anyone got a clue where exactly these red lights are? PM me if you do. I won't have enough time to rent an apartment and build contacts so ill be looking for a quick pit stop for my ding dong. Or if anyone want to team up, please, please let me know. I have plenty of info on Germany and South America to share willingly!
Well there is NOTHING here as far as the AMERICAN eye can see.
I've seen what the cabi's call "Fiki-Fiki", with red lights over the windows but I've yet to venture there yet. YET being the key word. I've found Turkish belly dancers and a few native's who seem like they will eventually lighten up. Other than that tho, there is no guaranteed game up here.
Shame nobody had recently updated the Iraqi forum. Recently passed through Ankawa and had a fun night boozing in the T-Bar. Didn't have any action as my (Christian owned) hotel made it quite clear that I would not be allowed to bring anyone in during the night which encouraged me to drown my sorrows. I only stayed one night in Ankara but I saw some girls there from Baghdad that were surely on the Game. It was pretty much written all over their faces and maybe it was confirmed by someone I was drinking with. I would say if you are passing through Ankawa head to the T-Bar, its directly across from the US army base with the Big heavily armed Kurd Soldiers outside.
Also, I spend one night in Sulimanya at a Swedish / Kurdish owned Hotel. Its recommended in the Lonely Planet. Mentions the Swedish connection. When the owner went away the Hotel workers and myself got reeeeally hammered drunk and they started telling me their dirty little secrets. Apparently Kurdistan is crawling with girls from Baghdad on the game nowadays. The economic situation is dire to say the least there and the gals are heading North to earn some bucks. There was another Kurdish guy holidaying in the hotel from Sweden and he was doing the translation. The Hotel night guys didn't speak English. The other guest was showing me pictures of him and girls in all kinds of positions! LOL They even started ringing girls and I was on the phone to them. How frustrating was that! I was chatting to these Iraqi Foxes and I couldn't understand them and they couldn't understand me! None of the girls were in town anyway and nothing came of it. But they are out there. When the Kurdish translator stumbled off to bed the night was more or less over. Moral of the story, if you stay in that hotel somebody will have to translate. Can't remember the name of the hotel, If you want to know find it in the Lonely Planet book yourself. If you do go there though make sure the owner is not around as I don't want to get those guys in trouble the were a blast and keep in mind the Hotel is not a brother just the guys have connections. All the best.
If you do go there though make sure the owner is not around as I don't want to get those guys in trouble the were a blast and keep in mind the Hotel is not a brother just the guys have connections. All the best.[/QUOTE]They were a blast.
BrotheL
Sorry about the Typos!
Relentlessly
08-06-12, 09:51
Well, I reckon there are only two ways to get action in Suli. The Chinese massage places (there are four or five) will give HJ or BJ if you get the right girl. They'll want about $40 on top of the $35 you pay for the massage, so it's not terribly cheap. The other way, I've not quite figured out yet, butit involves giving your number to a likely prospect (waitress in the Russian / Ukrainian restaurant at Suli Palace for example) and waiting. Of course, you're going to need your own place for this, hotels are very unlikely to put up with guests of the opposite sex. Any further ideas greatly appreciated, as I'm coming back to Suli on business again later in the year.
heading over there myself in a week or two and am 50/50 on local action. have been defense contracting for years (egypt / jordan / yugo / germany / italy / hungary). never had an issue finding good quality locals for dirt cheap. even if they aren't p4p, many have never been taken out to eat or been bought a pair of jeans. they are know the deal implicitily. just casually ask them if they would like to go out sometime, they will usually agree, and will always give a quickie if not more and longer just because somebody is actually treating them nice. has worked everywhere including the middle east. iraq though is a lot more secretarian (? sp) though so unsure on how it will work there. i know folk that have issues finding it in saudi also (except for phillapinos (? sp). fuck that) but iran it is easy.
as for soldiers, many (way more than the 7 mentioned, would go as far as to say 10%.20%) females sell themselves regularly while deployed, especially the ugly ones. they have a captive audience and i know a couple female soldiers that pull in 3 to 4 times their basepay. they are not cheap though, usually exhorbitant priced ($300 usd for a bj, more for full) and if shit turns bad will report you to the mp's ([CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) claim). only real bonus is many of them are willing to trade services for goods. as a contractor who can leave base can always find female soldiers who are more than willing to put out for bottle of alcohol, hash, or drugs (smuggled onto base by you). biggest problem with female soldiers though is word gets around quick, they are difficult to find (worried about being caught so usually only sell to their squad / company) , and you have to repeat the process every 6 month rotation. when you find them though, they are usually clean, give fs, and really good. most of them would never dream of doing this back home. solely doing it because they are horny also, realize the market, and word will never get back home.where did you ge this information? 4 tours in iraq and 2 in afghanistan and never did i see any of this going on. and i partied hard while i was there. 15 years in the military before getting out 2 years ago and never did i see or even hear of anything like this going on.
Well, I reckon there are only two ways to get action in Suli. The Chinese massage places (there are four or five) will give HJ or BJ if you get the right girl. They'll want about $40 on top of the $35 you pay for the massage, so it's not terribly cheap. The other way, I've not quite figured out yet, butit involves giving your number to a likely prospect (waitress in the Russian / Ukrainian restaurant at Suli Palace for example) and waiting. Of course, you're going to need your own place for this, hotels are very unlikely to put up with guests of the opposite sex. Any further ideas greatly appreciated, as I'm coming back to Suli on business again later in the year.Hey Relentlessly,
I'll be staying in Suli for a minimum of 1 year so if you can give me more insight on how it is down there and where to find these massage places I'd be grateful.
Relentlessly
09-13-13, 15:08
domzy,
sorry, haven't gotten here for a while, as there are never updates. the massage centers are all (i think) now in hotels. the suli palace has one which is a rip off; girls no more than 4, ask for tip and then just continue with massage. a further tip of $50 is required for a grim hj. notice that all the girls peer in your wallet when you tip, so be smart. slightly better is the place at the bottom (separate building) of the lalezar hotel, but same financial implication. there is a place on the north side of azadi park which seemed independent, but i don't know if it's still open. i've gotten of out of the city earlier this year.
i've been in erbil for a few weeks now, and there are places connected to hotels. erbil palace hotel i would recommend, best hj ever from one of the girls there, and some mutual.
have heard about proper wgs from the south, and refugees offer p4p, but that's not for me and i've been told it's a pretty sad affair. any info on less compromised girls would be great.
r
domzy,
sorry, haven't gotten here for a while, as there are never updates. the massage centers are all (i think) now in hotels. the suli palace has one which is a rip off; girls no more than 4, ask for tip and then just continue with massage. a further tip of $50 is required for a grim hj. notice that all the girls peer in your wallet when you tip, so be smart. slightly better is the place at the bottom (separate building) of the lalezar hotel, but same financial implication. there is a place on the north side of azadi park which seemed independent, but i don't know if it's still open. i've gotten of out of the city earlier this year.
i've been in erbil for a few weeks now, and there are places connected to hotels. erbil palace hotel i would recommend, best hj ever from one of the girls there, and some mutual.
have heard about proper wgs from the south, and refugees offer p4p, but that's not for me and i've been told it's a pretty sad affair. any info on less compromised girls would be great.
rhey guys,
i have good info on how to find what you want let know, not sure i can post the info here directly.
domzy,
sorry, haven't gotten here for a while, as there are never updates. the massage centers are all (i think) now in hotels. the suli palace has one which is a rip off; girls no more than 4, ask for tip and then just continue with massage. a further tip of $50 is required for a grim hj. notice that all the girls peer in your wallet when you tip, so be smart. slightly better is the place at the bottom (separate building) of the lalezar hotel, but same financial implication. there is a place on the north side of azadi park which seemed independent, but i don't know if it's still open. i've gotten of out of the city earlier this year.
i've been in erbil for a few weeks now, and there are places connected to hotels. erbil palace hotel i would recommend, best hj ever from one of the girls there, and some mutual.
have heard about proper wgs from the south, and refugees offer p4p, but that's not for me and i've been told it's a pretty sad affair. any info on less compromised girls would be great.
rrelentlessly,
thanks for the heads up mate, i found a cmp here in suli that offers fs for a 100$ (massage included) a bit steep i know but it only thing i could find, i still haven't tried it but i'm planning to give it a shot this weekend but i'm not sure if i'll go for a full meal deal though, anyways i'll report my findings here afterwards.
thanks
Hey guys,
I have good info on how to find what you want let know, not sure I can post the info here directly.ErbilNew,
Well you can post the info here as long as you don't post private telephone numbers, email addresses or links to competing forums.
Relentlessly
11-11-13, 08:46
Domzy, ErbilNew,
What you got? Can you shake out a few more details, please?
Relentlessly
11-11-13, 08:47
Relentlessly,
Thanks for the heads up mate, I found a CMP here in Suli that offers FS for a 100$ (massage included) a bit steep I know but it only thing I could find, I still haven't tried it but I'm planning to give it a shot this weekend but I'm not sure if I'll go for a full meal deal though, anyways I'll report my findings here afterwards.
ThanksWhat's CMP?
Relentlessly
11-12-13, 10:14
What's CMP?Got it. Chinese massage Parlour. Such a dumbass. Where is it? I'm living in Suli now.
Got it. Chinese massage Parlour. Such a dumbass. Where is it? I'm living in Suli now.I have found where you can find escort and an amazing girls, in Erbil just contact me if you are interested.
Relentlessly
11-27-13, 18:04
I have found where you can find escort and an amazing girls, in Erbil just contact me if you are interested.I've no idea how to send you a message; can you just give us some general details here? I will check it out next time I go up to Erbil.
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Lance-a-Lot
12-06-13, 17:33
Have been here for a few weeks and from somewhat trustworthy sources heard about the CMPs offering up the odd happy ending, but have yet to visit and verify this intel. This weekend perhaps. Not sure which ones to visit, but will post any updates.
Otherwise this place is not happening. Was easier to get laid in Kabul.
Relentlessly
12-22-13, 10:21
I haven't found anywhere for anything in Suly, seems things have changed since I was last here. Anybody help a brother out? I found a place in Erbil (this was before the summer). The Grand Hotel, on the way into town from Ankawa, has a CMP on the side, and after asking I got HJ. Any tips on anything in either city, need to bust my nut as this visit lasts until late Jan!
I have found where you can find escort and an amazing girls, in Erbil just contact me if you are interested.Where would that be? The info would be great if you can pass it over.
I've been to a couple Chinese places. The Chinese place opposite City Center has a bar and girls. You pay 30000 dinar to house and can go in a small massage area. Its not very intimate and you can hear other massages. Then you pay girl usually 50000 and she will give you blow job and titty fucking. Overall, its not a very pleasant experience and good only if you are really horny. The BJ is covered with syran rap not condom. Once I brought condom because I wanted to fuck and she wanted to use syran wrap. Very weird and I declined for obvious health reasons.
There is also a Chinese place in Sarchinar. It also sucks. You can go upstairs with girl and you are in a sort of open booth. Its not very intimate. Then you can get hand job and touch her boobs. Or you can sort of dry hump. Overall its not a pleasant experience.
It would be really nice to find a regular working girl To see once a week. Help on that front would be nice.
Relentlessly
04-08-14, 10:16
I work in Suli mostly, but go to Erbil about twice a month. I had a really good thing with a girl in a CMP. Fingering, topless, kissing. Then she went back to China and I'm back at the beginning. Haven't tried a CMP in Suli for ages as I had a expensive bad time in one last year. The restaurants sound bad to. Any tips on good CMP here or in Erbil?
I guess I am in the same boat like everyone else any places available would greatly be appreciate.
Thanks
Can confirm that the Noble Hotel and the Eve Hotel have massage places that will give extras.
I went to the eve hotel paid for massage slipped her 50 US and she gave me a BBBJ she was from Turkey.
Also the bar in the Noble hotel is full of hookers, they are there for all the oil and gas big wigs, Chevron, Mobil etc.
Relentlessly
05-11-14, 06:12
Can confirm that the Noble Hotel and the Eve Hotel have massage places that will give extras.
I went to the eve hotel paid for massage slipped her 50 US and she gave me a BBBJ she was from Turkey.
Also the bar in the Noble hotel is full of hookers, they are there for all the oil and gas big wigs, Chevron, Mobil etc.I'll give the Eve Hotel a shot. I had a massage from a Turkish girl in the High Life Hotel, but wasn't offered extras. Can you share more intel about the Eve? /10?
Relentlessly
05-16-14, 13:03
So, following the report of Eve being a good place to visit, I went to Erbil this morning and went to the place. It was a basement place, and I took one look at the women and left. Chinese, not Turkish, and barely registering a 1. So I went to the Noble, where I've been before but had no success this time the girl let me jack off, but that was it. A taxi driver did try to tell me about $50 Russian hookers the other night, but he didn't say where. I'm leaving for at least 6 months in June, and I'm so happy about it!
SadinHeaven
09-16-14, 12:23
Hey folks,
I've been in Erbil for a while now, I can tell you recently many massage places are spreading all over Erbil mostly in hotel, only one which is spa 300 Gulan street above saj reef, that's not in a hotel, you can find a lot of escorts in Noble hotel Skybar, and also local Iraqi girls numbers, but for the best massage place with extras you should try Hilite hotel near Ainkawa, that also has a club called Sixt which is not bad.
SapperDapper
10-02-14, 09:03
Hello,
First message. I thought I share my experience of the High Life Hotel that the before person recommended. 1) More money than other hotel massage places. $100 for hour. 2) Iran girl not pretty was fat. 3) Massage very awful. 4) Offered sex but I said no. Bad hand job for $50.
Chinese places lot better.
SadinHeaven
10-06-14, 08:34
Hello,
First message. I thought I share my experience of the High Life Hotel that the before person recommended. 1) More money than other hotel massage places. $100 for hour. 2) Iran girl not pretty was fat. 3) Massage very awful. 4) Offered sex but I said no. Bad hand job for $50.
Chinese places lot better.Hi mate,
I never said the quality is great just saying they have extras, you can try Juhaina hotel (korek now) they have 4 hands massage and also spa300 . Or go visit RJ's pub in Asenappar hotel which also has a massage place. At least you have some info now in Erbil.
I have been to Spa 300 got a BBBJ with no CIM but never sex. So where can I go for sex, don't care what woman looks like, I have been here long enough for it not to matter.
SadinHeaven
10-12-14, 17:22
I have been to Spa 300 got a BBBJ with no CIM but never sex. So where can I go for sex, don't care what woman looks like, I have been here long enough for it not to matter.Well you need to bring an escort back home, you can pick them up in Skybar Noble hotel, or go to highlite hotel for massage and sex.
Well you need to bring an escort back home, you can pick them up in Skybar Noble hotel, or go to highlite hotel for massage and sex.Do you think if it's possible to pick up girl from Skybar and bring her back home?
Lance-a-Lot
03-18-15, 23:00
Gents, over the past year or so I have grown to know the Middle East from a more inside perspective, and it's still a mystery in many ways. These countries are some of the most sensual places on earth, yet sex is so subtle and tucked away that at first glance you would think people here never went to grips. Once you penetrate, so to speak, the aura of chastity that seems to prevail, the view changes. As a friend once said, no desert is so dry that a few flowers don't bloom. It's just finding these rare patches and getting through the thorns that makes it all such a hassle.
So, to the topic. Erbil, KRI and getting laid.
Massage parlours exist in many of the hotels. More classy places do not offer the services you want, so stick to mid range hotels in Ainkawa, or look for massage parlours on double side road or other areas. Cost is usually about $60 for a rub, and an extra $20 or so for a tug or more. I have been to places in Erbil and Suli, almost always Chinese, and always the same. Not the greatest, but in a famine any meal will do.
Bars are good for picking up NGO girls or other foreign ladies working in some type of business, and I have seen girls who seem to have nothing to do but cling to some rich oil worker (never locals mind you), but there are only a few places which they frequent, and of course you have to talk all night and get them drunk, which is not what this forum is about. I have never seen a working girl in Skybar, T-bar, German Bar or anywhere. There are bars where Russian girls are the main servers, but again, not really an opening to go on a taco picnic. I have picked up girls from bars (and parties if you can find the), but you got to have a connection to them, meaning know the group they are with, and have a place to go. Hotels by the way couldn't give a hoot if you come in with a foreign girl, so at least that barrier is down.
Streetwalkers. Well, they say unicorns, UFOs and the Loch Ness monster exist too. Until I see one, I remain skeptical. Although some acquaintances, almost all female, swear they are out there, find me a man who has actually tagged one and then lets talk. Same with hookers in bars, lots of posts about sightings, but none about tagging. If I am wrong, set me straight, but after a year here I ain't seen it, nor do I know anyone who has done it. There are sometimes tables full of cute girls smoking hooka, but in my experience they are rich college girls out have a time, and the last thing they are thinking about is fucking some drunk horny foreign guy for cash. Maybe if you gave the a love story, but not just for whipping out $200.
But you can find working girls. You typically need a local who can call one up, and she will come see you, but likely not in a hotel. The five star hotels do not screen as much after initial security as there are clubs and other activities that a girl could be attending, other than to your needs, but anything without this type of decoy would draw massive attention and likely a knock on your door asking who the company is and to see her ID. Not what girl her wants. And the girls know this, and they are terrified. You got to get to know the hotel people, and convince the girl that it is OK. This takes time, so probably not what readers want to hear.
So what do you do? Well, either you live here and get an apartment or get to know the people in the hotel where you live, and then get to know local circles, find a girl who wants to blur the boundaries a bit (they are out there in droves and often prefer anal in order to preserve their virginity. This is true), or who are divorced or even married (virginity is no longer an issue), or Iranian, and make a go of it. Or get to know some locals who can find the rare bird who spreads her wings on demand for cash--there are rumors that Syrian girls are filling the market gap but I have yet to see it.
Or you stick to the massage parlours and count your blessings--chance has it you are not in Iraq on vacation, so take what you can, and then save up your money and go to Cyprus or Lebanon. I love these Middle Eastern girls, but for a sporting man, this ain't no Disney land.
Relentlessly
06-20-15, 07:40
Back for a couple of weeks, right in the middle of Ramadam. Thought it would be no action, and most massage centers are closed. But I went for a walk and on 2 side in Ankawa, near the end on the right is a hotel Al Waer or something similar, written in big letters on the side. $60 for a 40 minute terrible massage, BUT by a 8/9 Arab princess. So much better than the 3/4 Chinese women in most places. She finished the terrible massage (I was naked) and I was thinking I wasn't lucky today, but pointed at my hard on in any case. She speaks no English but rubs her finger and thumb, and I ended up giving her about $60 more. She got naked, started jerking me off, than got in the table. She wanted to do it bareback, but I didn't. She wouldn't BJ, but jerked me off. In what is usually a shitty place for action, a little bit of light. I'll be going back with a condom in my pocket.
Back for a couple of weeks, right in the middle of Ramadam. Thought it would be no action, and most massage centers are closed. But I went for a walk and on 2 side in Ankawa, near the end on the right is a hotel Al Waer or something similar, written in big letters on the side. $60 for a 40 minute terrible massage, BUT by a 8/9 Arab princess. So much better than the 3/4 Chinese women in most places. She finished the terrible massage (I was naked) and I was thinking I wasn't lucky today, but pointed at my hard on in any case. She speaks no English but rubs her finger and thumb, and I ended up giving her about $60 more. She got naked, started jerking me off, than got in the table. She wanted to do it bareback, but I didn't. She wouldn't BJ, but jerked me off. In what is usually a shitty place for action, a little bit of light. I'll be going back with a condom in my pocket.Can you tell us the name of this place were in town a few days and need some serious help before we head back out.
We're really looking to find some good places for massages with happy endings, ideally looking for Lebanese or Turkish if anyone can point us in the right direction we'd really appreciate the help.
Relentlessly
06-23-15, 07:33
Can you tell us the name of this place were in town a few days and need some serious help before we head back out.It's in the review. Hotel Al Waer on two side.
It's in the review. Hotel Al Waer on two side.That hotel isn't known mate that's why I'm asking again.
Lance-a-Lot
08-03-15, 00:11
Just to add a few insights on the MP scene. As a general rule, massage prices vary according to time. For instance, the Al Waer charges $50 for 30 minutes, $60 for 40 minutes or $100 for an hour. However, you are actually just paying the entry fee, after which you negotiate with the girl, so might as well pay the cheapest rate (unless you are going for an actual massage, then go to one of the big hotels like Diwan).
There is a bit of variety these days, with Philippine, Thai, Chinese and yes, some locals as well. Looks vary, but Erbil is not Dubai, as much as it would like to think so. So you are going to get what Erbil can offer, which is usually an older, heavier, more jaded server than most might want.
They usually get right down to business, thus the advice on taking the cheapest rate. Why pay $100 to open the door for a 15 minute activity, when you can open the door for $50?
BJ's are not happening, but hand and FS are easy options. Prices vary, depending on what you can bargain. A friend and I went to a place, each paid the $50 low cost 30 minute massage price. Girls were locals, fat, tats, not really appealing, but why not?
No real massage offered, but I paid 40,000 dinar for a pretty good hand job and showered afterwards. My friend negotiated a similar service for 25,000 dinar. There are some places I have yet to try, where I think the girls might be better looking.
They don't like to let you see the ladies before you pay, but if you lurk around for a while you can spy them prancing about. Will let you know if I strike gold, or silver, or even bronze.
MadeinFinland
08-21-18, 07:58
I have been in Erbil for 3 / 4 months. It took me a while, but I have the best way to find girls, and knowing what they are like. Going to the massage places in hotels is okay, but I got some bad girls and bad experiences. But if you use WeChat app, you can search for nearby women, and all far east women are in the massage places, so you know how they look. Normal is $30 for 30 minute massage and then $50 for happy end.
Penetrador
09-16-20, 17:33
Just to add a few insights on the MP scene. As a general rule, massage prices vary according to time. For instance, the Al Waer charges $50 for 30 minutes, $60 for 40 minutes or $100 for an hour. However, you are actually just paying the entry fee, after which you negotiate with the girl, so might as well pay the cheapest rate (unless you are going for an actual massage, then go to one of the big hotels like Diwan).
There is a bit of variety these days, with Philippine, Thai, Chinese and yes, some locals as well. Looks vary, but Erbil is not Dubai, as much as it would like to think so. So you are going to get what Erbil can offer, which is usually an older, heavier, more jaded server than most might want.
They usually get right down to business, thus the advice on taking the cheapest rate. Why pay $100 to open the door for a 15 minute activity, when you can open the door for $50?
BJ's are not happening, but hand and FS are easy options. Prices vary, depending on what you can bargain. A friend and I went to a place, each paid the $50 low cost 30 minute massage price. Girls were locals, fat, tats, not really appealing, but why not?.Have any of you had Kurdish pussy? I'm willing to go to Iraq as I will also be in Syria, Any place for FS in Baghdad?
BigBalls83
08-02-23, 11:56
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvNDLCTIQqr/ this scene is from Erbil guys. I understand they have a best market in the region right now.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvNDLCTIQqr/ this scene is from Erbil guys. I understand they have a best market in the region right now.It could be depending what you like. Are most of these girls on stage arabic women and what's the damage? You need to speak Kurdish or Arabic to get by?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvNDLCTIQqr/ this scene is from Erbil guys. I understand they have a best market in the region right now.Nah man that's so PG-13 compared to other venues like love-time for example. If anything is going to drag me down to Erbil its going to be that place. Absolutely insane even in Beirut they don't go that extreme in terms of dirty dance shows. Also Kurdish girls are insanely hot. Erbil is definitely worth the visit. Problem is its not so favorable to get Iraqi stamp on your passport its going to tarnish your travel history for security reasons.
One day Erbil, one day.
Avro Canuck
12-05-23, 05:06
Nah man that's so PG-13 compared to other venues like love-time for example. If anything is going to drag me down to Erbil its going to be that place. Absolutely insane even in Beirut they don't go that extreme in terms of dirty dance shows. Also Kurdish girls are insanely hot. Erbil is definitely worth the visit. Problem is its not so favorable to get Iraqi stamp on your passport its going to tarnish your travel history for security reasons.
One day Erbil, one day.Are there any groups etc. Where this information is available? I didn't know about love-time before you posted and it is indeed a much better place. I'm planning a trip to Erbil for Q1 next year and would love to gain more insights.
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