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JustSumFun
06-15-04, 12:32
11Bravo
For the record, at 9, did see 4 chinese strung out between Ramada and Spinney's; at 11, different 4 (one, not bad), directly across the street from Ramada on the Spinney's side. In the Shoemart parking lot, 6-8. On my way over to the Rockefellas, to hook up with Bravo, I was driving on the road between the Spinneys and the Ramada Hotel, and saw these two CIS SWs. The traffic was slow moving and I had ample opportunity to get a good look. One of them was definitely an 8 while the other a possible 7. They both looked in through the window of my car but since I did not have the time, nor the inclination, I did not respond. With cars all around me I had no clue who might be in one of the other cars and might recognise me. Can't take a chance like that out in the open. As I turned right, to go through the spinneys parking area, I noticed at least 5 chinese ladies standing around with that look in their eyes. They were looking for business. Nothing spectacular. They would rate between 4-6 on a scale of 10.
The two Bulgarian waitresses, at the Rockefellas, made a refreshing change from the multi-cultural waitresses at the York. Bravo had them eating out of his hands within a couple of minutes. Lovely girls. They paid particular attention to our table throughout the two hours we were there. The band, unfortunately, was a bit loud so we had to talk in-between songs, just like we do at the York. Alternatively the only other option was yelling at each other.
The talent available was of a higher quality than that encountered at the York or the Imperial suites, no doubt about that. But completely CIS dominated. I mistook one lady to be a Chinese. Bravo asked her nationality. Kazakistan!!. Well. She looked too much like a chinese to be a CIS.
The place is worth another visit but not before 10 pm. The place started filling up after 10 and was quite crowded around 11 when we decided to leave. It was not a wasted trip. But the time factor might prevent me from making another foray into this place again.
Summer seems to have got hold of the mongering scene. Not a lot of activity being reported by fellow members. F was lamenting the fact that there were very few customers nowadays. E called me up on saturday to enquire why I had not been to her place in a long while. E calling me, in itself, was a surprise. Told her that L is never around so it is pointless coming over. She promised me that L would be available sunday afternoon. Called her sunday afternoon and was told L has gone out to see her other boss. Tried to say goodbye but E kept insisiting I come over and sample one of her other new ladies. Finally gave in and went over. Diana, one of the ladies I had met when I first went to this house, was back. E wanted me to try the new lady Samira. But I decided to go with Diana. Better a devil you know than one you have no clue about. It was an ok experience. Guess I am being a bit unfair. She is pretty good. Great BBBJ, 69 , various positions etc. and a bit naughty too. But I just had not got over the disappointment over the unavailability of L. Under different circumstances I would have been raving about the service I got.
With L off to her country, within the next couple of weeks, I think it was perhaps my last appearance at this house until L decides to come back. Wont even bother to call E again next week to see if L is available. She is way too busy.
Justfun
Visitors to Dubai who MUST be blind!
This is one for all you regulars to hopefully put a smile on your faces during the hellish summer months.
Been looking at a website for expats in Dubai and in particular the personal ads. Amazed at how many people it would seem are in Dubai and desperately looking for a bit of female fun. They must walk around with their eyes firmly closed.
This is an extract from one such advertiser
Date: Monday, May 31, 2004
Category: Friendship
Region: Dubai
Description: Will be coming on holiday to Dubai for 2 weeks from 15th July.
I am single and from UK . Would like to meet up with others to go out at night ect ... nothing worse than drinking by yourself.
This is my 4th visit , but have never really seen any nightlife in Dubai yet.
Get a life or what!
Maybe one of you ''Kings'' should start a guide dog service !
Hope this has brightened your day
Big Jul
Ever Ready
06-15-04, 16:35
JSF,
For me it's not the summer doldrums, but too much damn work that is limiting my time on WSG. When I get time, I'll write a longer report - I've met with a couple of "nice" suppliers of fun over the last two weeks.
Keep up yr (and Bravo) excellent reports; they always make interesting reading (when I get the time).
The 2-3 days delay in posting my reports on screen is a bit of a bugger - it means that sometimes mine get lost in the annals (pardon the pun) of history and maybe don't get read. Maybe I should apply to Jackson to become a senior member - do you think I qualify yet?
Cheers... ER
Have heard of this happening at least twice: once from a server, once from a client. Some girls will play the "unstated currency" game; some visitors will get confused. She's not asking "how long you stay dubai?" because she cares about your travel plans; she wants to know how savvy you are. Saying you are a visitor can jack up the initial quote by a couple hundred durhams (which confirms my right to indignation when, after telling one I live here, I still get an outrageously high quote). Let's be clear; this IS the UAE; currency here is the durham, NOT the USD. Yes, girls will take USD's, but you need to be clear up front what currency the quoted price is in.
2 variations on the game: 2 girls quote 400. (that's a period; i.e., no currency statement). Guy thinks great, 400 dhs (110 USDs). Get back to his place, now it's pay first, and it's 400 USD's (1460 dhs). Yes, will negotiate down, but now they have the leverage. (Will you really kick them out, go back to the bar?)
Another: girl quotes 500, meaning 500 dhs. Visitor thinks 500 USD's is high, but he'll settle for 400 USD's, as he's using "back home" as a price guide.
The first is a rip-off of the customer; the last is a girl letting the customer be stupid (she said she really had a good time).
So, when you start talking price, throw in dirhams or dollars, depending on what you're carrying. Some of the top line a-list will quote USD's, so listen close. No harm if it's 100, 150, maybe even 200 USD's (though that's over my limit); just as long as they are saying dollars. Some have told me that they will intentionally leave off the currency when they are talking 400 or 500, hoping someone will be stupid and misunderstand (yes, they will willingly negotiate down to 300 USD's).
And my advice (request) is: don't do the same. Because when punters start getting clever, and saying 200, with no currency, she's thinking 200 USD, then, when it comes time to pay, out comes 200 dhs... Well, you can be assured, she will never accept pay after again. Just ruins it for the rest of us (and you, because word WILL get around); this is how some nationalities get tainted by the actions of a few.
In talking to the girls, it quickly becomes clear it's 2 sides of the same coin: neither of us wants to get cheated. Pay after ONLY works when the girl can trust the punter to do so, fairly.
Fenster;
Sporadic, Tell us about the time you attempted to fuck them Dubai chicks in the ear and schnoz, doubtless you succeeded in fitting it in, ya?
Fenster, Fenster, Fenster... What will I do with you?
As a serious P4P researcher, I was just striving for accuracy in reporting. I hope you understand.
For the record, the "ear and schnoz" as you put it, are exit wounds!
Now to tell the whole story, I was researching small orifices, and decided to use something we professionals call a "Fenstometer." It is more or less a "scale model" of a normal male reproductive organ. They are small, (and truth be told, rather flaccid) but they do work in the field when conducting "nanotechnology" research. I would advise you to purchase one, but I have been reliably informed that you already possess one, "in situ" as it were. You should at least work on getting a personal endorsement deal... you know, "It works like the real thing, only smaller!"
As my ex-wife used to say, "It´s not big around, but it sure is short!";)
Cheers,
Sporadic
Ps. Why don´t you ask for a senior member upgrade, and we can trade quips in near real-time?
Nice Guy 99
06-16-04, 20:50
I'm sitting in Paris tonight, god this place sux! And (I know, don't start a sentence with and) I'm reading my fav boards and thinking about calling my regular Chinese In AD for the second time in 24 hours.
Help me guys. I've slipped into the abyss, fallen in love with a working girl. For those of you who have read my posts on the AUH thread you know a bit about her. She really wasn't in to it (the working life). I believe I was her first overnight. Her skin is so smooth. She finally got in to oral when she started calling me lao kung, her AUH husband. She's going back to Fujian on the 24th, never to return. I tell her it's best for her, but god it's bad for me.
I'll "buck up" I'm sure. I'll prowl AUH and DXB reporting the wonders of it all. Next time I'm shooting for a Chinese below 20 who will speak good Engrish and be able to correspond via e-mail when I'm out of the region.
Yes it's P4P but oh anhni lao po!
Member #1263
06-16-04, 22:43
Hi guys had been busy so not much mongering over the past week ...anyways had some work today near the Intercontinental hotel so decided to check it out, the hotel scene. Had dinner at this trendy chinese restaurant and did see some hotties around. Then ventured into this bar with my mate, loud music playing and found a hand ful of CIS babes....nothing very spectacular. One or two 9's rest were either 5 or 6.
I guess the CIS just put up a high class attire and try to cash in with the tourists staying at the hotel. Asked one hottie and she quotes 500$$. Ya right!! I am blind. Also noticed this bar had a policy of allowing locals in their traditional dress!!!.
Happy hunting.
P.S JSF will have to meet up one of these days.
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Well, finally arrived in Dubai! I checked into the hotel in Bur Dubai and went for a wander around the neighbourhood having a great chuckle to myself as I recognised all the landmarks, from research on this board, such as The York, Spinneys, parking lot of Shoe Mart, Regal Plaza, etc. I was amazed at how close they are!
After some relaxing and some shopping I had a meal in the hotel pub. I then checked out the hotel nightclub, but nothing was going on due to the football game. So, up the street to the York it was! What a place! I wasn't in the club two minutes, before I felt a tug on my sleeve. A cute African girl (maybe Somali) was chatting me up. Taking advice from this board, I definitely didn't want to go with the first girl that approached me (and I was really looking for a nice CIS), so I talked for awhile and then made a break from her. Seconds later, a tall attractive Chinese came up to me and started asking me the same battery of questions: what's your name, where you from, how long you in Dubai, etc. Due to my prior preparation garnered from the board, I had all the answers to avoid a rip-off! Chatted with her for awhile and again moved on looking for CIS.
In fact, I found it difficult just to get a position to observe without being offered! Next time I will definitely have to go earlier (I went around 1130pm). So, after two offers, I was just trying to get a look around and then saw numerous attractive CIS girls. Before I had a chance to see which one to target in on, I actually bumped into a tall CIS, with a great figure. Just what I was looking for!
So, I started chatting with her and within 10 minutes we had negotiated down to 500 dhs for overnight (sorry, I know this above the 400 aimed for in the forum, but it was about 12:00 and she was staying to 8:00...) and were on our way back to the hotel room.
There was absolutely no problem getting her up to the room (Sheraton, Bur Dubai) and we walked straight into a waiting elevator and up we went. Once in, we chatted a little bit, and then she asked for the money so she could call her manager. I put her at ease by putting it out in the open for her to take later, without giving it to her.
She went to the bathroom and came out undressing - wow! Great breasts and a nice bottom. She crawled into bed with me and provided a fantastic GFE. After the first round, we curled up together and she gave me a nice bit of massaging. We chatted and relaxed while I waited for my switch to reset. She ably helped and was getting me ready for round two. It got very heated and before we new it, we were into it again. If I thought the first round was good, I was absolutely spent after the second round!
She could see this and asked if she could go home (or maybe back to work?) around 230. I was spent, so as much as I would have liked a warm body in the bed and maybe a morning wakey, I said yes and decided to get some sleep. I got her number and off she went, leaving me to pass out and not wake up until 930 the next morning.
Now here is the kicker...I get my morning paper at the hotel and her picture is on the front page of the Khaleej Times (football shots at the York!)
I look forward to the weekend and figure I have to learn to pace myself.
I have learned two lessons, though from this. One, maybe it is better to start with a ST experience to test the waters, and two, carry lots of smaller bills to help in the negotiating process...
Thanks for the help in this board and I look forward to posting again and to add some pictures.
Big Jul:
This is an extract from one such advertiser
Date: Monday, May 31, 2004
Category: Friendship
Region: Dubai This guy may just be on to something. We are not mongering, simply renting some very affectionate friendship. Somehow, I doubt this would work as an excuse for either the authorities or the spouse, but it sure sounds nicer.
Nice Guy 99:
Help me guys. I've slipped into the abyss, fallen in love with a working girl.Bad JuJu, be very careful. The only rule more important than the "never fall in love with a working girl" rule is Never get caught. I suggest you rent some new "affectionate friendship," just for therapy purposes.
Sharq:
First off i would like to thank JSF and Sporadic for helping me get through to F and ask her to send over Sab. Thanks guys.Glad you had fun, you are very welcome. I warned you about her (Sab´s) aversion to DATY, if it is important to you, she is not going to be your ideal girl, otherwise an excellent lady. Sab is also kind of famous for "bringing in another girl," now, if this is out of concern for the other lady, her personal security blanket, or to help "share the load" I cannot say.
Cheers,
Sporadic
EverReady, 06-15-04 19:35: The 2-3 days delay in posting my reports on screen is a bit of a bugger - it means that sometimes mine get lost in the annals (pardon the pun) of history and maybe don't get read. Maybe I should apply to Jackson to become a senior member - do you think I qualify yet?Yes, definitely. Apply now as there is a wait.
Nice Guy 99, 06-16-04 23:50: She's going back to Fujian on the 24th, never to return. I tell her it's best for her, but god it's bad for me.Have seen a number of regulars go home, never to return. Like you say, bad for you, but best for them. Some have gotten that fiancee visa to another country; others, enough money to go home and start a new life. If you do really love her, then you wish her well (unless you are prepared to support her and her family for the rest of their lives). But they do make fond memories as you search for the next "The One".
Big Jul, 06-15-04 17:22: Been looking at a website for expats in Dubai and in particular the personal ads. Amazed at how many people it would seem are in Dubai and desperately looking for a bit of female fun. They must walk around with their eyes firmly closed.Are you sure they are looking for female fun? ;)
JustSumFun
06-17-04, 12:42
Ever Ready: You can always ask Jackson. I am sure he will consider and make you a senior member. To be honest I did miss a few of your posts because they appeared on a previous page..
NiceGuy99. Mate I know how you feel. I have a friend who is in the same boat. And I sometimes think to myself "Why" !!!! Why did he get so emotionally attached. But that is human nature. So wonderful and so unpredictable. That is what life is all about.
I conveniently forgot how I got so very emotionally attached with my chinese regular. She just had to dial my number and call and I would be standing out there near Sea Shell Inn hotel in the blazing sun, waiting for her to appear somewhere on the horizon and lead me to the place she had ferretted out for that day's entertainment. Take heart mate. You will get over it by and by.
Sharq: You are welcome mate. Did not know you had asked Sporadic for F's contact as well. I had already given you L's contact and F's contact. Guess you wanted to reconfirm that I was not giving you a bum's rush ;) Glad you had a good time anyway. Wonder who that cousin of Sab was? Did she mention a name at all?
11Bravo: I had a friend from the forum who came over for a few days. We went to the Cyclone one night. Lulu, the sweet chinese babe with dimples in her cheeks, spotted me and came over to give me a hug. The bouncers there did not take kindly to her action and made sure there was at least a foot distance between us. Guess the bouncer was worried that we would stop the circulation of air. Long story short. I went to the men's room and Lulu got chatting with my buddy. When I came back it was all finalised. 400 for Lulu and her partner for a couple of hours and he could video the lez action between the two ladies.
The next day I got a call from our forum buddy. He told me the shocking story. Lulu said she meant 400 US$. The thing is he had mentioned to her that he is an american citizen (although of asian descent) and here for a couple of days. She quoted 400. Conveniently forgot to mention $. This was a classic case of trying to rip him off. I was a bit pissed off. The next time I met Lulu at the TGIT I had words with her. She said it was not her fault. How could he expect the price (at Cyclone) to be 400 Dhs for two ladies with lez action and filming and all. It was his fault. It was an impasse. Any way they settled at a new price of 1000 dhs. The rest of the deal stayed intact. He got the lez action on film. And he had a good time with the two ladies.
I really wish our forum buddy had managed a little time to post his FR himself. Initially he was too tied up with work. But I guess by the time he got some time it was too late to post his FR. Too much time had gone by.
So guys be clear. $ or Dhs. Makes a lot of difference. Dont get conned. And by the same token dont try to con the ladies. A guy once promised a lady 10000 riyals for a night of fun. When she went to change the 10000 riyals she got 4 dhs or some such ridiculous amount for it. It was Iranian riyals. The way she was crying, in the Money changers shop, in front of all the customers there to exchange money, was heart breaking.
Justfun
Nice Guy 99
06-17-04, 18:07
Sporadic, Bravo, & JSF:
Thanks for your comments guys but I feel like an idiot for posting that last note. It really made me wish that I had achieved Senior Member status so I could go back and delete or heavily edit the darn thing. I made the request to Jackson some months ago but I guess our gracious host is a bit overloaded with all the new member requests etc.
Bottom line is I think my last post had something to do with a large quantity of French wine. Not sure when my next trip to the UAE will be but I am confident that it will generate new adventures and plenty of FRs!
Fenster:
Golly, you got me nailed dead-to-rights. You are so clever.
If I have in some way upset your little personal apple cart, please accept my humblest apologies.
I wish you nothing but the very best life has to offer.
Cheers,
Sporadic
Sporadic,
It's you who's the epitome of class. I hope everyone realizes we're kidding around.
Cheers yourself.
Member #1263, 06-17-04 01:43: I guess the CIS just put up a high class attire and try to cash in with the tourists staying at the hotel.Like I say, they are asking how long you've been in Dubai not because they're interested in your travel plans, but because they want to know how savvy you are. And businessmen staying in the likes of the Intercon perhaps can afford more for P4P than myself. When offered this nonsense, I just say "I live here" and move on.
JustSumFun, 06-17-04 15:42: The next time I met Lulu at the TGIT I had words with her. She said it was not her fault. How could he expect the price (at Cyclone) to be 400 Dhs for two ladies with lez action and filming and all. It was his fault.Now, with knowing all the details, with all due respect, I'd have to agree with the lady. 2 ladies, lez action, with film rights, from Cyclone, for 400 dhs? Anyone should know there is something wrong with that equation. In similiar situations, when a double offer has been made, I pin it down: "400 dirhams? 200 you, 200 your friend. Pay after. OK?" That works, and there is no room for misunderstanding on either side.
Basically, when an offer seems too good to be true, it generally is (not always, but you have to make sure). I remember 1 time when an a-list readily agreed to 500 LT, just too quick. Knowing better, I started asking questions; the discrepancy was in the definition of LT: to her, it was "until you go sleep, then work finished, I go home". That is certainly not my definition of LT, so passed.
Nice Guy 99, 06-17-04 21:07: Thanks for your comments guys but I feel like an idiot for posting that last note.I wouldn't feel like an idiot. You get a true GFE (and it did sound like you had one there), unless you're made of stone, there must be some reciprocity. I've felt bad, for myself, several times when GFE's have gone home. But, for them, I'm glad as they are out of the game. But for the newbies, just remember, bottom line, it is P4P; keep things in perspective.
Jack S, 06-17-04 10:43: Have been looking forward to an FR, and I certainly was not disappointed. If all were such as you... Thanks.
... went for a wander around the neighbourhood having a great chuckle to myself as I recognised all the landmarks, from research on this board, such as The York, Spinneys, parking lot of Shoe Mart, Regal Plaza, etc. I was amazed at how close they are!
Research does pay off; there is so much info here; all you have to do is read it
In fact, I found it difficult just to get a position to observe without being offered!
You have to be careful not to be screened by someone you are not interested in. If I'm not interested, I give them a quick, polite, "No thank you". Sometimes you have to be, verbally, a bit more forceful if they don't take the hint. As they won't poach from another, you have to make sure you are in the clear in case "she" walks by.
Next time I will definitely have to go earlier (I went around 1130pm).
CIS tend to arrive later, say after 11. Chinese get there early.
So, I started chatting with her and within 10 minutes we had negotiated down to 500 dhs for overnight (sorry, I know this above the 400 aimed for in the forum, but it was about 12:00 and she was staying to 8:00...)
Not bad, CIS do tend to be higher.
I put her at ease by putting it out in the open for her to take later, without giving it to her.
That is class; some girls, especially CIS, will take a bit of offense if you directly hand them the money. I always leave it on top of their purse.
She could see this and asked if she could go home (or maybe back to work?) around 230. I was spent, so as much as I would have liked a warm body in the bed and maybe a morning wakey, I said yes and decided to get some sleep.
Some will tend to play you like this (it would be back to work for a chance at another score). It does get a bit awkward; what is a fair rate in that case? She is cutting LT to ST; on the other hand, it is your decision to release her early (but how much fun will it be to keep her there?). My experience, this happens less with chinese, but they still do it too. I play it by ear.
- if it's an obvious scam (my girlfriend just called, she forgot key which translates as have 2 guys who want to play), I cut the rate unilaterally (guaranteed to insure she will never talk to you again).
- if it's just a request, then 50/50 I won't cut. There's always a tradeoff: if you cut the salary, how much is it worth if she decides to make a scene... But I will certainly "downgrade" her, and mention that in an FR. If I do pull a 2nd time (probably not), then I will make it clear that leaving early will get a ST rate. In fact, this also happened to me last night. The chinese girl I pulled from Cyclone, after 2 rounds, around 2:30, asked to leave. I told her OK, but she'd have to take a taxi (I had told her I'd take her home in the morning). She could walk over a street to a main road to find a taxi as I was not going out to flag one down, and I was not calling one and giving directions to my place. I wasn't going to cut the pay, but I wasn't going out of my way either. She decided to stay; woke up at 8, round 3, and I took her home.
For me, it's not so much the money, as the principle.
In your case, I would have probably done the same as you, except I would have let her know I was not particularly pleased with her actions. And certainly the next few girls I pull might be a bit baffled when I add the tag line, "And if you leave early, then I pay ST".
carry lots of smaller bills to help in the negotiating process...
They are not banks; I always make sure I have combinations of 100's and 200's to cover all permutations of 300-500.
Look forward to your next post.
Jack S:
...within 10 minutes we had negotiated down to 500 dhs for overnight (sorry, I know this above the 400 aimed for in the forum... (she) asked if she could go home (or maybe back to work?) around 230. I was spent, so as much as I would have liked a warm body in the bed and maybe a morning wakey, I said yes and decided to get some sleep. Nice FR Jack, but the best thing is, you seem to have enjoyed the experience. That is, to me, the sine qua non.
As for the price, do not sweat it too much, like everything in business, it can be flexible. I would hate to see anyone lose out on an experience by excluding a provider "on principle." As reported here, I would suggest overnight pricing can be anywhere from 350-800 Dhs depending on the venue and lady. I think that the real value of the forum on this issue is in making enough information available to allow a first-timer to avoid getting star-struck and paying an outrageous price.
Early exit. I am of two minds here. I must agree with Bravo, a deal is a deal, but sometimes (is this genetic?) after we have finished business, I prefer to get some sleep without company, even foregoing the wake-up. My tactic is to negotiate a ST, later, you can turn it into an all-nighter if the mood strikes. By this time, the lady in question has determined that you are a nice guy, not dangerous and you are both more relaxed and comfortable. It works for me, YMMV.
Cheers,
Sporadic
JustSumFun
06-18-04, 12:27
11Bravo
Now, with knowing all the details, with all due respect, I'd have to agree with the lady. 2 ladies, lez action, with film rights, from Cyclone, for 400 dhs? Anyone should know there is something wrong with that equation. In similiar situations, when a double offer has been made, I pin it down: "400 dirhams? 200 you, 200 your friend. Pay after. OK?" That works, and there is no room for misunderstanding on either side. I feel sort of responsible for our forum buddy getting the short end of the stick that time. But he would be the first to agree that I was heavily under the influence of the amber fluid. We had met at the TGIT and then wandered over to the York, all the while partaking of the nectar, and the final drink, at the Cyclone had me completely sozzled. Had I been sober, perhaps, I would have asked a pointed question or two from the ladies before leaving Cyclone. But the way things were I was heavily under the effects of umpteen (3? or was it 4) pints of beer. One beer gets me nice and comfortable. Two and I am out for the count. 3rd and 4th would take me into the stratosphere.
When Lulu asked me those pointed questions, when I had words with her at the TGIT later on, I was cold sober and I was stymied. I could see her point of view. Anyone, who knows the rates at the Cyclone, would have thought there was something weird at the price quoted. But not yours truly. I do feel sort of responsible. Perhaps the forum buddy did not write his FR because he did not want to show me up in bad light. :(
NiceGuy 99
Sporadic, Bravo, & JSF:
Thanks for your comments guys but I feel like an idiot for posting that last note. It really made me wish that I had achieved Senior Member status so I could go back and delete or heavily edit the darn thing. No worries mate. That was a very welcome post. And it just goes to show that we hobbyists are also human beings. Interraction with other humans, even working girls, can lead to attachments and feelings for them. We would be less then human not to feel something for a lady we meet quite frequently. I have been seeing Ly now continuously for almost two months, at least twice a week. Last night a friend from the forum told me to get my act together and go out and look for some fresh talent. He is right. I should. What the heck am I doing visitng F's house, which is full of talent, and pulling only Ly everytime? I confessed to him that I have developed a soft corner for the young lady. I enjoy myself so much with her. So where is the harm? As long as I dont propose marraige, or commit my family wealth to her, it is all fun. The purpose of visiting the working girls is that we should have fun. I do. But what our forum buddy said last night has me thinking. I must pull up my socks and start looking for fresh talent.
Jack S: Lovely FR mate. Look forward to further adventures of yours. Keep it up mate.
Justfun
Report on Dubai, March 2004
Here's the report on my visit to DXB last spring. I'm an European and this was my second travel to DXB (the first lays 5 years back). I spent 3 days and 3 nights in the city and planned my actions according to the tips extracted from the highly informative wsg-forum. First of all I went to Cyclone Club on a Sunday evening at around 11p.m. Entry fee: Dhs 50 (12 EUR). I've been really surprised as far it was classier than I expected. The atmosphere, the music mix (including western beats, Greek, Arabic, Caucasian) and the huge number of stylish ladies was overwhelming. The first half hour I roamed astonished around. My head and eyes rotated like a radar. Although the DJ was playing stimulating hits the dancefloor remained empty. It seems like people aren't coming for dancing. It gave me the impression of a 5* contact market. The place is extremely expensive. One 0,3l beer set me Dhs 28 (6,50 EUR) back. Around midnight it got overcrowded. Unbelievable what a big choice! The heap contained CIS-ladies, Asians, Turkish and Eastern Europe babes. Nevertheless some of the chicks displayed a bitchy attitude - e.g. no response to eye-winks or smiling. Chinese/Asian babes roamed around in groups of two and were a little bit pushy. They offered more reasonable rates than the CIS-girls. Had few chats with different attractive Russian ladies enquiring casually about the rates. Well, there's no way to get a stunner for less than Dhs 800 (186 EUR) full night. Obviously the going DXB-rate of Dhs 500 (116 EUR) for long time service doesn't apply to most attractive and sexiest babes. I agreed with a long-legged natural beauty from Ukraine on Dhs 500 for short time. Long black hair reaching to the ass and good command of English. We made immediately for Panorama Hotel in Bur Dubai. They charged me additional Dhs 50 for my escort. No further questions. We spent around 3 hrs. She was a real professional. She knew exactly about her job. Had a smooth, harmonious and extensive session in different positions and variations. Chatted afterwards. She turned out to have a lot of experience and sound knowledge about the DXB-scene.
On a Tuesday at 6p.m. I dropped into TGIT in Astoria Hotel, Bur Dubai. It was overcrowded: guys from Europe, India, Pakistan, Arabs; chicks from CIS, Eastern Europe and many pushy Asians. Wide range of quality. Few extremely cute young babes from Caucasus. My opinion is that TGIT offers the best spot in town for reasonable rated fun. Had a couple of beers and left for my residence in order to prepare for an adventurous night at York Club in York International Hotel, Bur Dubai. After dinner I headed to York Club. Very dark, a little bit crowded. Aggressively pushing African bitches. Got my ass very often pinched. Professional live band performance, albeit too loud. The atmosphere seemed like live music bars frequented by artists in Western Europe or North America. Striking share of mostly East African women. A number of cute blonde CIS-babes at the long bar. The darkness impeded me to make a choice. Eventually I went up to a black haired, coolness spreading and distinguished lady. I assessed her Syrian/Lebanese or Caucasian. Had a short chat. It turned out to be a Russian who celebrated her 26th birthday one day before. Finest features, lightly tanned soft skin, tight body, stone-carved ass, two kids at home. Dhs 800 full night, no haggling. As I told her she could come away empty-handed by keeping this rigid attitude, she countered with the argument that she has never left a club alone. Marketing? I was impressed. Eventually we left together, a lot of guys gazing after us. She insisted to keep control of the action. So we took a cab to her apartment at Lamcy Plaza. She ordered Russian dishes at a nearby restaurant. The mattress session has been satisfactory yet not that extensive and wild. She avoided intensive kisses, didn't let me go down the Venus hill and tried to direct the action. Nevertheless she provided me with a soft and tender albeit standard treatment including playing the flute and straight intercourse. Beeing very fond of her I enjoyed the party in deep breaths.
Well, these were my experiences and views on DXB as a non-resident. In conclusion I have to say that it pays always off treating the ladies well, being kindly and humourous. The damage to one's wallet seems to come to Dhs 800 full night beeing accompanied by an English speaking stylishly elegant stunner. I'm aware of the fact that the DXB-scene provides a wide range of services starting at Dhs 100 and exceeding Dhs 1500. It depends on every monger's preferences and cash abilities. Would appreciate comments, tips, views. Keep reporting!
Well, I had an easy night yesterday and had a late dinner and passed out in front of the TV. So much for going to the Cyclone, but there is always tonight. I did have a chance to check out a massage place though by the Jumeira Rotana hotel. It is called Fourways Specialised Healthcare. They run an add in the paper (Khaleej Times Classifieds, I think, under the men's services section. I also found them in the yellow pages under escort services and massage (never underestimate the usefulness of the yellow pages!).
I tried it out and thought I was getting the right vibe, when I was in there, but all I got was a really good massage (hence my being tired that evening - very restful). The attendent, a cure morrocan girl, told me that she would be working alone today, so I was taking it as a cue for me to return - I figure, worst case, I get another good massage! I think my mistake yesterday, was putting the towel over me. A lot of times this is the signal for a 'real massage' vice a 'complete massage'. I will see what happens today and post.
If what I saw at the York was a sampler, I can't wait to sit and check out the action at the cyclone. Happy Mongering.
Jack S
Hi,
I am planning visit dubai in mid july and would appreciate if you could let us know of a travelling agent who would get us the best rates at Ramada Bur Dubai.
Faisal
Just out of curiosity Have you guys ever had local talent? I mean local Emirate girls? I met a guy in the states out of the military said partied with the girls but no action. Just curious love those Arab girls.
TP
Adimondo:
I think your experience was pretty typical. Cheaper talent can be found, but if you find something you like, we are still talking about quite a good price compared with Europe or the US.
Jack S: Good thing you are all relaxed now, the Cyclone will give you a sore neck (swivel damage) and you will probably enjoy the company. Lovely Cyclone ladies, most pleasant. I wish I had one at present.
TPoet:
Just out of curiosity Have you guys ever had local talent? I mean local Emirate girls?I have heard nothing but shady rumors over the last six years, nothing solid. Arab ladies from anywhere else but the Gulf, yes, but never anything with an Emirati. Some Arab friends make mumbling comments about " a certain guy at the shisha joint " who can arrange these things, but it seems all smoke and mirrors to me.
Cheers,
Sporadic
Gents,
Would Dubai experts clarify the margin of cost between ST and LT? In other words, if a Cyclone pro insists on 800 for LT, would it be reasonable to counter with 400 for ST? Or would a 50% discount south of LT push oneself out of a lay?
Could the experts lay out an LT vs. ST margin structure? Of course one understands this won’t be exact science, but the layout would give the punter a marker to work with. Moreover, if it is you who approaches and begins negotiating, do you feel at a disadvantage? Or do the pros understand that just cause you approached it don’t mean they’ ll have their way with you?
On a different note, do you guys face any difficulties purchasing alcohol at local liquor stores? Do you really need to be a resident to do that? Will you be kind enough to explain the ins and outs of Emirates liquor stores. I mean with the prices of bar drinks being reported, one would have to seek alternatives, not excluding ailines-size mini bottles in one’s shorts? Thanks.
Restoring my faith
Jack S: It's really nice to read some fresh view FR's. And don't feel bad about "I had an easy night yesterday and had a late dinner and passed out in front of the TV"; I did that myself Wednesday night, and I didn't even have a massage to show for it, just another week's work.
Adimondo, 06-18-04 16:07 I spent 3 days and 3 nights in the city and planned my actions according to the tips extracted from the highly informative wsg-forum
Gee, another member who can read, learn, and retain. Very refreshing. My faith is being restored.
Although the DJ was playing stimulating hits the dancefloor remained empty. It seems like people aren't coming for dancing.
Do you think? ;) And I thought everybody was just like me, just didn't know how to dance. Of course, when they do get dancing, it's often a bunch of guys; maybe they're just trying to impress the ladies.
The place is extremely expensive. One 0,3l beer set me Dhs 28 (6,50 EUR) back.
Welcome to the UAE! Get an idea of how much money P4P brings in! These people are so geared for business.
Nevertheless some of the chicks displayed a bitchy attitude - e.g. no response to eye-winks or smiling. Chinese/Asian babes roamed around in groups of two and were a little bit pushy.
On their side, imagine how many eye-winks and smiles they get. I've seen wolf packs of guys, standing 1.5M away, just gawking at some of the ladies. Yes, the chinese are big on "cold calling" with their marketing; other nationalities waiting for you to make the 1st move. But for me, as long as it is not TOO pushy, do like the chinese marketing as compared to others.
Obviously the going DXB-rate of Dhs 500 (116 EUR) for long time service doesn't apply to most attractive and sexiest babes.
Yes, I'd say 500 LT is for the next tier down from the a-list.
On a Tuesday at 6p.m. I dropped into TGIT in Astoria Hotel, Bur Dubai. It was overcrowded: guys from Europe, India, Pakistan, Arabs; chicks from CIS, Eastern Europe and many pushy Asians. ... My opinion is that TGIT offers the best spot in town for reasonable rated fun.
My advice here is to skip TGIT in the evenings. Yes, you may hit a girl stopping by before she heads to her main office. But like you said, too crowded, too many guys chasing too little quality. However, TGIT in the afternoons, from 13:00 to 16:00, CAN BE a good deal. You can spot some Cyclone/York/Imperial top-liners in there, looking to kill some time and perhaps pick up some extra money. I've personally pulled a Chinese for 300 who, when at the Cyclone in the evenings, I'm sure is in the 400/500/600 ST bracket. Plus, pulling in the afternoon, unlike in the evening, there's no rush from the girl to get back to try for another client, as TGIT closes at 16:00. So chances are you can have a leisurely 2-3 hours, with the girl going home to grab a bite to eat, relax, and get ready for the evening's performance. The other nice thing is, TGIT is about the only place that is open AND active, so you can find a cross section from a number of different venues.
Very dark, a little bit crowded. Aggressively pushing African bitches. Got my ass very often pinched. Professional live band performance, albeit too loud. ... The darkness impeded me to make a choice.
That's the York. Screaming over the band, trying to make yourself heard. Wanting to bring a flashlight to verify selection (and figuring out which banknotes you are pulling out of your wallet to pay the waitress). I don't like being grabbed; to me, it's disrespectful; seems like a lot of the Africans think that is endearing.
Dhs 800 full night, no haggling. As I told her she could come away empty-handed by keeping this rigid attitude, she countered with the argument that she has never left a club alone. Marketing? I was impressed. ... She insisted to keep control of the action. So we took a cab to her apartment at Lamcy Plaza. She ordered Russian dishes at a nearby restaurant. The mattress session has been satisfactory yet not that extensive and wild. She avoided intensive kisses, didn't let me go down the Venus hill and tried to direct the action. Nevertheless she provided me with a soft and tender albeit standard treatment including playing the flute and straight intercourse.
Interesting. Having a discussion with Sporadic about a-list: worth it, or not. Yes, beautiful. But like yours said, it's not IF they will have a customer, but WHO it will be, so do you get better service as compared with a 2nd tier who perhaps will be a bit more grateful for the business and provide better service? My conclusion: depends on the girl.
Adimondo: nice FR. As Sporadic says, your experience is typical. Multiple it by 52 and you have my year.
See all, here are 2 posters, Jack S and Adimondo, who read the forum, took the info, and went out and achieved success on their own, then posted about it. No bleating about needing contacts so they could enjoy; just go out and do it. Hopefully, will have more posting members like these gentlemen.
T Poet, 06-18-04 20:03:
Just out of curiosity Have you guys ever had local talent? I mean local Emirate girls? I've not heard, and even if I knew, I'd pass. Obviously, she'd have family who, chances are, would not be too happy about her lifestyle. I have never heard of honor killings here, but, then again, I wouldn't want to tempt fate (especially with so many other choices around).
Went to York for the first time in weeks on Wednesday night - boy has it quietened down from the wild days of a year or two ago! Arrived about 9pm, and it was definietely Chinatown. About an hour or so later more and more African gals, and then filling up with CIS cuties as the night went on. Chatted with some mates for a while and did a couple of tours of duty, but nothing grabbed me (except getting grabbed by several African girls on my wanders, I mean, on my backside).
Was seriously thinking of checking out Regal, or making the 20 minute trek to a little-known place I used to go to in the past, where the girls are plenty and the men are few - except for local guys dancing with each other, keeping the effective ratio well in my favor ;)
Anyway, the piva eventually took over and I decided to stay at York and make a move. Chatted to an ex-regular beauty I'd had nights with in the past. From Africa, but you'd swear she could be Indian (she has told me lots of people say that). Beautiful face with big doe-like eyes, smooth caramel skin and a lovely body. Great kisser and BBJ, in fact great at everything. All was good, but my initial thoughts were correct - I really wanted to try a new girl (variety is the spice ... )
I'm thinking about calling a number I recently got for an Indian MP in Deira, but I'm a bit hesitant, as I've heard a few horror stories about people giving out numbers that turn out to be the number of non-P4P people, including local families' numbers, and all sorts of problems like threats to call the police (some idiots apparently circulate enemies' numbers to give them a hard time, or pay-back or whatever). Anyone had problems with calling such numbers?
As to LT/ST prices, all what the market will bear, and what it's worth to you. I would not get too hung up in price. If you overpay by 100 dhs, that's all of $28 USD, not really a ball buster.
I'd think it'd be a function of time of night (time enough to get back to try for another client? close of business?), but I'm just guessing. Using this logic, and I don't know if it is true, one would think that after 12, prices might peak as maybe no time to get back for 2nd round, yet still time to try for a high roller. Perhaps earlier in the evening a better shot for a cheaper price, but how does business look like that night? By close of business, prices would have dropped. On the other hand, you've waited around until 3am to save how much? And how much have you spent for drinks? How much is YOUR time worth?
Also, really depends on the "class" of girl. As mentioned many times, the a-lists are not worried about if they will have a customer; others, on the 2nd tier, might. Even an a-list, if rent is due, or needs some extra cash, might take a dip in price. The proverbial friend of a friend once mentioned that she would have to go for 300 dhs ST (normally 500) that night as rent was due, but it would be 1 shot, pump and dump.
Also depends on when pulling. Afternoons, TGIT, as posted, can get some good deals. As I posted below, I paid 300 dhs (her stated price, no bargaining; "if you not take; another man will", which was true); my guess is she was 400/500/600 ST from Cyclone evenings.
I really don't have any guidelines as such. I do know they have paid 35 dhs weekdays, 50 dhs weekends, to enter, plus transportation, so that has to be taken into consideration when considering profit. If it was me, I'd try to get them to make the initial quote; evaluate that, and make a counter offer. If I had to make the initial offer, I'd start out at 300 ST (Cyclone), figuring she'd pass (and maybe even walk away), but you do want to low ball the first offer. If she's insulted, plead ignorance.
I don't think you are at a disadvantage if you make the 1st move. With non-chinese, that's usually required. Even some chinese, either because they are a-list, or because they don't like "cold calling", you do have to make 1st move. So what? Just cuts to the chase quicker.
My GUESS is, as a general guideline, 50% of LT would be reasonable, but I'm only guessing as I don't have that much experience at ST (i.e, I've never asked LT price, then switched to ST price; I start with whatever I'm interested in).
It's up to you. Again, for me, I do the mental calculations as the price goes up: is it worth another $28 USD to go, or will I walk away because another $28 is too much? And, for that same price, who else would be willing to go?
One last thing to keep in mind: I'm not saying don't try to get a low price. But when you start haggling over 50/100 dhs, what kind of service are you asking for? Remember, it is ST, and she will be interested in moving on (another client, or just sleeping in her own bed; yes, I know, shocking she doesn't want to spend all of her time with us :) ).
Bottom line: will you miss the opportunity of enjoying her company because she is asking for x dhs while you are offering y?
(x-y) > your enjoyment or (x-y) < your enjoyment?
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My understanding is you do have to be a resident to buy alcohol in Dubai. Have only heard, no 1st hand experience, anyone can buy in Ajman, but illegal to bring into Dubai (cars subject to check). My advice: Dubai has a very nice duty free on arrival where you can pick up some. What the allowance is, not sure. Believe 2 litres of hard stuff or 2 - 12 cans packs of beer. Staff will know.
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PS: I answered this question for the general readership; now, I consider this CLOSED. It was not for the individual (how many questions do you ask, Fenster, as compared to how much have you contributed? This is not the Socratic method here). I chastise myself for NOT using the search engine to evalute your posts; if I had done so, I would not have answered.
Sporadic recently asked if anybody had been robbed by the ladies of Dubai.
Having had an unfortunate experience in Algiers - see report in the Western Africa section - I tend to lock away my cash and valuables if staying at a hotel; and I only bring those ladies I can trust back to my apartment. However, about a year ago I picked up two Turkish girls at the Cyclone and went home with them to Deira. When I got home after an all-nighter my pockets were practically empty, although I knew I should have had several hundred Dirhams left.
Now, I should be careful before accusing these girls of actually stealing, because I didn't remember a thing between the taxi ride to their place and waking up in the morning and it's quite possible that I'd given them all my money in a fit of bombed-out generosity. And the girls were quite willing to let me climb aboard in the morning - after telling me to go and brush my teeth; they didn't seem to be hiding anything.
So - who knows in this case? But a friend also warned me about two Korean girls he had gone home with, whom he believed had also lightened his pockets. He hadn't been suspicious at the time, but he said it later explained why at least one of them never let him out of their sight, even in the bathroom.
Having said all this, I have had dozens of Dubai girls of many nationalities in all sorts of locations, without any problems of this sort.
On balance, I think the girls are far more at risk from being ripped-off by the punter than vice-versa.
Piper1,
The best thing you can do is buy a telephone card with a chip which you can use at the roadside telephone kiosks and call the number you want to. Keep the card exclusively for such purposes (i.e.) don't use it to call your friends/home or office. That way you can avoid leaving a contact number. Yes, there are some guys who post numbers on net classifieds, which belong to families they don't like. It has happend before. Always get a contact from a reliable source.
Cheers
Hi Guys,
Sorry to those of you asking for contact numbers - I cannot help until I know you, and that may take a while, as I don't manage to get out on the prowl as much as I used to :( Hope you understand.
Besides, who needs to get contact numbers unless you have heard of a particularly delectable girl! So much choice at the hotels and other venues, and so little time! (sigh)
Speaking of so little time, many of us, I'm sure, don't want to spend our time reading trivial flames, so why not flame each other via PM, or at least put a header "Flame Only" at the top of your posts, so we can ignore them ;) ?
P
Well, Dubai is proving an interesting town! Firstly, the massage place I mentioned in my earlier post is just a massage place. I tested this by laying there naked as a jaybird on the table, while the massage started. The masseuse seemed unfazed, so I imagine this is not the first time that this has happened to her. She massaged my back as we chatted merrily along. I did get final confirmation that there are no 'extras' offered when I turned over and asked about it. The massage was well worth it though. The place is on Al Diffyah, and a little over an hour is 150 DHS.
The next place I tried (after a little nap) was what I thought was 'Rockafellers' at the Regal Plaza, turned out to be 'The Rock Bottom Cafe' at the Regent Palace. Honestly, very easy to confuse! This adventure was interesting though as I sat myself at the bar and tried to take in some of the football matches a very attractive raven-haried beauty came up and sat next to me. I figured that she was a player, and started to chat with her! She wasn't an SP (from Turkmenistan, though) and we actually chatted for a fair bit of the evening. She even offered to introduce to me to a couple of her girlfriends and we are planning to get together later this week! So, nothing ventured, nothing gained! After she took off, I figured it was time for the infamous Cyclone!
Upon arrival, nothing (not even the York) could have prepared me for this! I was quite amazed at the quantity and the quality! I went up to the bar and started talking with another dark-haired CIS girl (you might be seeing a pattern...) very cute and nicely dressed. We chatted for awhile and I then went on the roving patrol. My neck was definitely sore (you guys weren't kidding about the swivel!) I found it hard to make a decision and actually put it off until late in the evening (around 230 - I arrived around 1215). I ran into a couple of guys from home (believe it or not) who we had mutual friends in common. As we stood by the wall by the washroom, we observed and were repeatedly set upon by the Chinese brigade. They finally gave in and I hope they had a good time (Go Leafs Go!). I finally settled on a blonde CIS girl named Sameza (sp?) who said that she was from Russia, Moscow in particular. I doubt it, and would guess one of the more southern 'stan republics, as I am sure she wasn't speaking Russian.
We ended up back at the hotel (again absolutely no problems, not even a look) and settled in for the evening (500 negotiated from 800 for the night). First shot on goal was a great workout, but covered BJ. Only issue I had was that her phone kept on ringing and beeping. Even after we were relaxing, she seemed like she had somewhere else on her mind. Her boss actually kept calling her. We had another session after a brief respite and she was again called by her boss again and requested to go. It was about 530-600 anyways, and again, as was mentioned earlier by 11Bravo and Sporadic, it is a hard call. In this case, I cut 100 off of the agreed price and let her go without any cab fare. I explained to her that we had a deal, but I would prefer that someone wanted to be there. I would definitely not repeat and would give her an average report.
I do have one more report to file, before I head out again but will do so as another post as I am sure you will probably find this one a little long already. I must be more succinct in the future. And I am working on trying to add in pictures.
Cheers,
Jack
After some errands, I decided to have lunch and check out TGIT in the Astoria. Again, I was astounded at the action in the middle of the afternoon, and this was a Sunday. I really just wanted a beer and a bite to eat, so as I found a seat this cute (but too young looking for me) Polish girl sat down and started chatting with me. I was pleasant and explained that I just wanted to have a look and have a bite, so she left. About ten minutes later a very attractive blonde came over and sat down (I didn't mention the african that kept grabbing my back or the several Chinese that grabbed my arm in the interim, as I imagine that is the normal hazard of the place).
Her name was Elena and she was from the Ukraine and her English was excellent. Definitely the best I have heard from any of the girls so far. We actually had a nice chat for fifteen minutes before my sandwich showed up and she very politely mentioned that she would let me eat in peace, and that if I was interested she would be over at table 1 by the entrance.
I finished my lunch and a few beers and continued eyeing up the crowd, but the more I saw, the more I thought she would be the best bet. In our conversation, she was very forthcoming about things and was a very soft sell. No high pressure tactics, which was refreshing. I saw her chatting with another chap for awhile across the bar and thought I had blown my window of opportunity, but to my luck, she was free about 3:45. So, I called her over and we had a quit chat and I found out she was 400 for one hour, 600 for two hours, etc. She also was very honest and said that she only went longer with men she liked and that could provide her pleasure as she said, that she might as well enjoy her work as well!
That being said, I figured I would start with ST and see how it progressed from there. Well, we went back to her apartment, near the Burjamen centre, and it was very nice and clean. She put on music and candles which made a nice touch for the ambiance. She was a real take charge girl in the bed (which I really like) and it was a fantastic GFE. Service was not rushed and she fully indicated to me up front that for an hour it was a one-shot deal. When she was doing BBBJ, she told me to hold on, as she didn't want me to finish before she had her shot (how much is hype, I don't know, but it was good for the old ego!). I would have stayed a little longer, but she ended up having another client arranged for her right after me. So, I took her number and she indicated that she would be at the Astoria later tonight after six.
So, all in all. The best experience so far and one that I would repeat in a heartbeat. Not only great sex and play in the bedroom, but a very fun girl to be with. I could definitely see doing a longer stint with her in the future.
What I would like to pass on in this one, and pardon me for probably preaching to the converted, but you get what you pay for!
I am undecided yet where to go, as I am hoping the girl I met in Rock Bottom Cafe will ring, I would like to try Imperial Suites tonight, but am unsure if it is more of a day place. If not, I think that I will try the York again, but aim to get there earlier to have a good look around!
Cheers,
Jack
PS, if anyone would like to get together for a beer, please PM me, I have a few more days here (leave Wed) and am getting a little bored hanging out by myself!
My 2 cents worth,
I agree that the sum of money will depend on the level and height of fun one may enjoy from the girl offering the relevant services. Some may enjoy the fact they are shagging someone with a pretty face and great body and a small premium in USD terms is a small price to pay. I agree it will not be a ball buster.
After all we are going out for fun and games, not a trip to the supermarket to save AED2 off the shampoo or bar of soap. Some like to drink at the pub and some like to drink at a hotel ie every man to his own poison and wallet.
Dubai is already offering freedom and choices one may enjoy compared to the other Gulf states, therefore we should not take these liberties for granted. Therefore one cannot really expect prices lower than those of market all the time. I concur with the views of those learned ones in the forum.
Enjoy and please continue to share all your wonderful thoughts which are appreciated.
FD
back to reality
strictly by the numbers:
jack s: 6 fr's out of 10 posts (hit the ground running)
adimondo: 2 out of 8 (did the groundwork, now up to speed)
fenster: 0 for 33 (but i am impressed with all the big words. luckily i had access to a thesaurus (and i did have to look up how to spell that)), but my parentheses do balance.
my scorecard: 2 steps forward, 1 step back; 2 players, 1 troll
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fr: quick scout of york at 10-10:30 (just to say goodbye to a lady going home): very sparse. yes early, but even the early chinese noticable by their lack of numbers.
shoemart: 10:30, 0. spinney's: 8 chinese; 30 minutes later, 2 chinese (business must be good).
imperial suites: 11:00: non-favorable m/f ratio; saw only a couple that would rate pulling.
all in all: summer must be here.
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with respect to sporadic's question about items growing legs: have never had a problem. on the other hand, i don't leave temptation laying around either.
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fundog: like your analogy of shopping for shampoo and soap
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orpheus: "on balance, i think the girls are far more at risk from being ripped-off by the punter than vice-versa."certainly from what i've heard, would agree. girl's stories of ripoffs were not spoken to solicit sympathy; just as facts.
Orpheus:
I agree with your analysis, the girls have much more to lose than we do, yet another charming aspect of the DXB scene.
Jack S: Sounds like you are having fun, good for you! I would not worry about the length of your posts, even for those with long experience in Dubai, it confirms earlier reports and adds to the body of knowledge, the real goal here.
Fun Dog I think you make an important point, we should appreciate what we have in Dubai. Practically zero crime, no real hassles from decent hotels (do check the hotels thread to avoid "problem" hotels) and as for being more relaxed than other Gulf states, I would suggest that DXB is more relaxed than many European countries as well, certainly more than many of the several United States. It is an interesting mix of pragmatism and traditional values. Enjoy!
If you look at what is on offer in other areas (RTFF,) and at what prices, DXB is, IMO, a truly excellent place to practice the P4P hobby.
Cheers,
Sporadic
JustSumFun
06-21-04, 13:10
Hello friends,
Not been too busy with the hobby this last few days except for a foray at F's place sunday for my nooner. Arrived there around 2:30 pm. 5 ladies, V, Sab, Ly, N and Suzzana (F's kid sister) were present. Although I was again tempted to go with Ly, the words of my forum friend kept ringing in my ears. Must try some one else for a change. When Mama came over and asked me which lady I wanted I just walked into the bedroom and told her to send me anyone. I had a feeling it would be Suzanna. It was. She is a tall big framed brunette and has been at the house for about 10 days now. When she walked in she asked me why I never picked her before. Told her I was having too much fun with Ly so the thought never entered my mind. This lady has nice hooters, permed hair falling in curls around her head, not really a beauty in conventional terms but has a very sexy face. Lovely legs made specially to be shown off in mini skirts.
She has very little excess baggage. She started with a little bump-D-grind standing in front of me and rubbing her bottom against my front while smiling sexily. She pulled my arms around her and put my hands on her hooters while she carried on dancing and rubbing herself against my front side. Very exciting especially since we were facing the mirror on the wardrobes. Got down on bed and she started a nice BBBJ and then got into the 69 position, much like F does. She got quite wet and wanted to lie down and let me DATY. Well I like that so I let her lie down. The way her thighs kept clamping against my head told me how much she was enjoying herself. This lady has a very prominent venus mound. I have noticed this feature in a very few ladies. After a while she started jerking around quite violently and finally had a big orgasm. I think I got another fan in that house.
She then got on top and started riding me. Claimed to have finished again but I doubt it. It was a good session and I would certainly repeat this lady again sometime in future.
When I was leaving the house I ran into Ly near the elevator. She had gone down to run some errand. She kissed me and I got into the elevator feeling slightly guilty.
In the evening I sent off an sms to Me Crazy asking him to pick me up around 9 pm so we could go over to the York as per plan. Got a reply back that he was in Oman on some business trip and had completely forgotten to tell me before he left. I just did not feel like staying home so went out for a drive. The guilty feeling over Ly was still with me so I called her up and asked her what she was upto. She was doing nothing. Asked her if she would like to go for a drink. She readily accepted and after 15 minutes I picked her up. She was wearing a lovely mini dress and looked like a teenager. Made me feel absolutely ancient. :)
Drove around for a little while and then decided to go over to the Irish Village near the Dubai Tennis stadium. The place was bustling. We decided to sit inside because the weather was far too humid to sit in the outside sitting area. Found a table right at the end, quite away for the main body of the pub. Nice and quiet. In fact so quiet that we had a hard time getting some service. Decided to go over to the bar myself and get us a couple of beers and some snack. It was a nice, pleasant, relaxed hour and a half in company of a young lady who loves to talk. She looked lovely and drew a few admiring glances. But overall the crowd was pretty decent so no one stared blatantly at us. I had a very good time with her and it reinforced my feeling that it is not only the sex which draws us to one lady. It is the overall quality of time we spend with her. With Ly it is always fun because she is like a naughty, fun-loving teenager. I get the same feeling when I am with L. And I am sure a lot of our forum friends will vouch for the fact that L is great company, with or without the physical intimacy involved ( which is great too). Same is the case with Ly. She may not be as beautiful as L but is definitely a beautiful girl.
There were a couple of groups of ladies sitting and talking and drinking there in the pub. But I did not get the impression that they were working girls. Just single ladies out for a social evening with other singles ladies. Some of them were very attractive. A nice mix of couples, single ladies and single guys. I would repeat this again, time permitting. I asked Ly if she would like to do it again sometime. She said she loved the place and would love to go there again with me. When I dropped her off at mama's place afterwards she gave me a very passionate kiss. Sigh!!!! (She did not tell mama that she was going out with me. Just made some excuse about meeting one of the girls at another house and came to see me)
Fun Dog Nice to see a post from you mate. Been a long time. We must hook up sometime soon mate.
Jack S
PS, if anyone would like to get together for a beer, please PM me, I have a few more days here (leave Wed) and am getting a little bored hanging out by myself! I know what you mean mate. Last thursday found myself all alone at the York and it was so boring. Just had a quick drink and left to meet with Ly. Would love to hook up with you but doubt I will ahve the opportunity. I go to the York, or any other pub for that matter, only on Sundays and Thursday. Perhaps next time. Great Fr's mate. Keept them coming. Very refreshing.
Piper1
Speaking of so little time, many of us, I'm sure, don't want to spend our time reading trivial flames, so why not flame each other via PM, or at least put a header "Flame Only" at the top of your posts, so we can ignore them ?Excellent idea mate. Would really help us in avoiding the Flamers. ;)
Justfun
gentlemen,
a question for the group. what is your biggest pet-peeve about dubai working girls?
one thing i will not tolerate (and mentioned here by several members) is the ringing phone business.
i understand that they may have to call in etc. but that is it. the phone must go off (or silent at least) or the lady must leave.
comments? experiences?
cheers,
sporadic
Hello gentlemen. I am fortunate enough to be back in Dubai and spent last night screwing my brains out with Ying-Ying. She did appear happy to see me. (It's amazing how a little gift like some nice perfume is appreciated.) All the latest reports have me extremely tempeted to check out Cyclone this trip, and to even branch out from my Asian studies. I'll be sure to let you know.
Keith: Welcome back. Now is Ying Ying different girl than Ginny? Given the good results from your FR from Ginny, let me know when you leave so I can start looking for Ying Ying (another girl with 2 tattoos).
Urge you to go to Cyclone this trip! You have to see the place at least once!! It's like going to Paris and not visiting the Eiffel Tower.
Also, catty-corner to York is Rockafellas at the Regal Plaza - no chinese, all cis (from every corner, so still some prospects for an asian studies major).
First off, Jack S, real pleasure meeting you, being a true brother. Poor Jack, he got drug around on my quest for Miss'd Opportunity from last night. But if you had seen that mini.... she was dressed for success.
Had spotted her in Shoemart parking lot on way to York; after saying goodbye to Kelly, spotted her again in Al Ain parking lot. Made a deal, 200 ST; expensive for street, but it was late for a worknight, and it wasn't worth it to me to haggle. I had also told her I'd take care of transportation as I live out in the burbs. We walked ALL the way from Al Ain to Shoemart, via Chrotram's, to where I'd parked. She got in the back, ala taxi. Then got cold feet about heading back to my place. Having had a very bad day at work myself, just wasn't in the mood for this last minute, very small perturbation. So as an answer to her litany of "too far, too far", I stupidly responded with "bye-bye, bye-bye". She got out (wonder what she was thinking), and I drove off. Coming to some sense, I cruised by Al Ain again 10 minutes later, figuring I could ask some help from Linda, who I knew, for translation. Linda was there, mini wasn't. Hope somebody had some fun out there.
Lesson re-learnt: you pass at your own risk. And, think, english will not be their mother tongue; there will be garbled comm.
Anyway, figured I'd grab a bite to eat tonight, then cruise by Al Ain to see. About that time, got a call from Jack S, a true gentleman. So we hooked up, went over to Burjamin food court for a quick dinner, then the long march started.
Nothing back at Al Ain. Went over to Imperial around 10; early, favorable M/F mix. Some ok ladies there (the CIS Elvira there). Also the turk from TGIT (JSF, Sporadic); broke my rule and bought her a beer when she asked. One of these days, I just have to sample. I'm sure expensive, but...
Some come-ons from the usual Chinese. Also some CIS; that never happens when I'm alone, so will attribute it to Jack's presence.
Also checked out the small pub (if you like Mexican food, NEVER eat there). Had some pictures for E, but, of course, having seen her last nite without the photos, now that I had them, she not around.
Back to Al-Ain (I am a hopeless sot, yes?). No luck for mini, but did bump into Linda who I'd seen last night (again, had photos for her, but not with me). Passed them on to her, so 1 small success. Thought it might be too crass to ask her if she knew mini.
Jack and I then headed to York, but decided to detour to Rockafellas around 11. No chinese, but enough asian CIS to keep me interested. In fact, picked up a very promising number from a Kazakstani. Didn't bother to find out price structure as wasn't going to pull then, and why haggle if not really serious.
Stuck around there until midnight, then had to say my goodbye's to Jack as tomorrow is a work day. Of course, had to make one last pass at Al Ain; nothing, and of course, bumped into Jack as he was headed to York. He must think I'm the real idiot (but if you'd seen that mini...)
Bottom line:
Imperial 10-before 11: nothing great, but room to move and easy to check out ladies who where there. A few in outfits (mini-mini's) who I would be embarrassed to be seen on the steet with - talk about a walk of shame...). Turk told me business would pick up later; now, too early.
Rockafellas: 11- 12: CIS from all parts of the ex-kingdom. Some nice ones around.
Street scene, Al Ain side: 10: 2 chinese; 10:45: 4 chinese; 12: 2 chinese. Shoemarket side: 0, all hours. Perhaps with DSS (Dubai Summer Surprise) starting, police have cracked down on the public masses of girls seen last month.
If you see some crazed guy with a lost look in his eyes, stumbling around Al Ain, it's just me on my quest to rectify my mistake (you just had to see that mini... ;) ).
11bravo,
thanks for the tour and remember, next time in town, let me treat.
york was busy and i stuck around for awhile, but really didn't see too many that were turning my crank. had several good offers though. had a pair of chinese girls (from shanghai - aren't they all from shanghai) offer me the two of them for the rest of the evening. i actually thought about it, but i was feeling kind of pooped, and figured for two, definitely want to be in top form. next offer was from a morroccan girl, with really crazy hair. kind of cute, but walking in to the hotel with that hair would be a little too much. then a pair of cis hard looking rigs, that probably were old enough to be my mother. i am sure they could of taught me a thing or two, but way too freudian for me. final contact of the evening was a very cute black girl, we actually chatted for awhile, but as soon as she said she was from rwanda, the aids bells started going off in my head, so i took a walk. i did spend most of the day at the beach and figured i would get a good night's sleep. on the way home i rang elena, just in the off chance that she was around. the consummate professional, she said that she was busy, but could i call back in two hours. i would love to spend the night with her (see previous fr), but i felt fading coming on fast so said i would call her tomorrow (big fan of the nooner).
all in all an entertaining night and enjoyed meeting a legend (11bravo - true gent). i felt priveleged for the guided tour of imperial, rockafellas and all points in-between. i plan tomorrow tomorrow to see if i can do a trifecta (sp) we shall see, as they say, get her into you!
jack
Some interesting developments in the Morocco WSG pages. Apparently a very regular poster there, Belguel (who posted many photos), went missing in action for a while, but popped up a few days ago and asked Jackson to delete all of his past posts, as he had been arrested and the police knew everything. He said the police asked him to keep up the action so the they could track down others).
JustSumFun
06-22-04, 11:52
sporadic
what is your biggest pet-peeve about dubai working girls?
my biggest pet peeve is when a working girl refuses to go with me just because i am an asian. what has that got to do with anything. she is there for the business. i am there for the pleasure. the twain should meet. but unfortunately that is not so. i have noticed this trait in the chinese. so far have not had any problems of this nature with the cis.
one chinese that i called up, after getting the number and proper reference name from a fellow member and a dear friend, said she would go with me only if i paid her a 1000 dhs for s/t. i passed that time but it certainly rankled. when i spotted her at the york the next time i could not resist myself. went over to her and asked her why? she said the asians dont pay as good. asked her if the caucasians pay her a 1000 dhs for s/t. she said no but since she does not like going with asians she would only go if she got that kind of money from an asian. she did mention that she usually gets around 600 dhs from caucasians for l/t. it wasn't the money. it was just a personal decision. i also talked with another one from cyclone and got more or less the same reply.
this is a strange trait that i have noticed only in the chinese. sad.
justfun
In answer to Sporadic's question: I agree, mobile phone use (just go to any cinema here and try and watch a movie undisturbed). Ladies who: switch phone off - nice take calls - yellow card make the next appointment while doing you - red card. I understand wanting to maximize cash flow, but...
Just like the cinema, you want to become engulfed in the illusion. After all, you are paying for that illusion of exclusiveness and specialness; her taking other calls ruins that.
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One exception to the rule: that brief time period as you are on your way home from the bar; or, depending on my mood, that time period after the 1st shot, before the massage, while you're waiting to recycle. Hearing one of the No, stay home, sleeping No, only look tv go my friend's; she go country tomorrowNow, I'm thinking, "Sorry guy, if you want this gem, you need to call earlier".
What's funny is, the next time you call her, and she gives you one of the above excuses, as if you're NOT going to remember the last time you heard it. Maybe "Stay home, look tv" is the acknowledged code phrase for "You're too late; try tomorrow". But I don't see the need for the lie; the girls who give a simple "Sorry, busy tonight" rate higher with me; I don't need a bogus explanation of why.
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Worst experience: pulled girl from Cyclone for LT, pay after. Different: dressed like a secretary: long sleeved, high collar, white blouse; black modest length skirt; panty hose. After the fun and games, just as ready for sleep, her mobile rings. First, a normal discussion, then she starts SCREAMING into the phone, motioning me to be quiet. Suddenly hangs up; turns to me, explains it's her husband (husband, boyfriend, boss, whatever; I believed husband as she had nothing to gain by lying to me). He was calling from the home country. He had called her apartment's land line; when she didn't answer, he called her mobile, wanting to know why she wasn't home after work (bar GRO).
She goes to bathroom, closes door, calls him back; more screaming; I can hear through door; figure so can my neighbors through wall. I open door, motioning her to hold it down (why do people think it's necessary to shout with a mobile?). She hangs up. Back out, ready for bed. Mobile rings, another arguement, more shouting. Here I am, caught in the middle of a transcontinental domestic disturbance. She says she has to go home; me, I couldn't agree more! Trouble is, at this time of morning, after 4, no taxis in my part of town. To end this fiasco, I tell her I will drive her home.
Get to her place, I give her the money, and in a moment of incredible stupidity, I cut 100 dhs on principle. She now turns her wrath on me, another male causing her grief. I calmly explain that it hasn't been LT, but only ST. She starts screaming at me, refusing to get out of the car without full payment. I play my trump card: explaining I'll just drive to the police station and they will extract her. Yea, right. She trumps me with her trump card: "No problem, I get deported, go home; what YOU tell police?" Definitely trumped.
Endeavoring to firmly plant the crown of stupidity on my head, I give her 50 dhs more. (After all, what are we arguing about: 100 dhs = $28 USD; now 50 dhs = $14.) She offers to return to my place to finish the morning wake-up (as if I'm not already awake) ; I just tell her to get out of the car. She screams a bit more, exits, and provides me with one of the best "car door slams" I've ever had. Needless to say, I did NOT receive a friendly, goodbye wave in the rear view mirror.
So, I had saved all of 50 dhs; and was now absolutely wide awake at close to 5 am. Lesson indelibly burnt into my brain: I am first to admit, if she makes a scene, I will pay the full amount; it's just not worth it otherwise.
My own question to the forum:
Have others noticed that while she may dress for success: mini, low cut blouse, whatever, to attract your attention and business, once you've made the deal, that all goes by the wayside. That is, she never incorporates her attire as foreplay once you're back at your place. Once you're ready to play, it's the normal "you take shower" (which, given this climate, I have no trouble with). But after the shower, getting back to the bed, she's stripped while you've been away; and, depending on how I've set the thermostat, she's either lying naked on top of the bed or underneath the sheets. While I appreciate the "cleared the decks, ready for action", and I don't expect a striptease with music, don't they realize that a little teasing can go a long way as foreplay. After all, there's nothing like a set of beautiful cheeks with a thong accent ... A good part of my enjoyment is the anticipation of her naked... I like my birthday gifts wrapped, if you please, not just taken out of the sack and handed to me. I find this to be the norm regarless of ST/LT.
Others have this experience, or is this particular to an asian studies major? Have been rather negligent with my breadth requirements.
jsf: what you describe, my friend is not a pet-peeve; it is an outrageous insult. i agree, (i have heard this from a couple girls) that it may be a fact of life, but i do not have to like it. it is particularly offensive for those of us who know you.
11bravo: you hit the nail on the head. i either find them naked, or it is a quick, impersonal "changing room" kind of thing (indeed they sometimes will change in the bathroom.) what a missed opportunity to warm up the mood! i have had only one or two, who after a couple visits, act more like a real gf, running around half-dressed etc.
another thing i have only run into twice, is a lady "properly" outfitted with slinky undergarments. nice bra and panties are normal, but where are the victoria´s secret goodies? i would certainly give a higher rating to a lady so outfitted (and knowing how to improve the mood.)
i guess the time, effort and money goes to exterior "advertising" instead of looking for repeat business based upon an excellent all-round experience.
should we start offering "personal career coaching" services to the ladies? ladies, use our method and gain a 40% increase in repeat business and a 30% increase in tips, send $10 for your information kit today!
cheers,
sporadic
Nice Guy 99
06-22-04, 19:47
Sporadic & Bravo:
I have run into a nice little exception to the norm as far as bedroom attire goes. The lady in the pic was one of my regular friends for a while. It was either the second or third time she visited me that she brought this nighty along. It also had some translucent little panties but unfortunately I don't have a good picture of those.
The brilliant marketing stroke was when she asked me if she could leave it in my room (I was on a several week trip) thus anticipating her return. I went a number of days with various afternoon STs and the pink nighty owner for overnight. Luckily the afternoon girls never stumbled across the nighty.
jsf,
my biggest pet peeve is when a working girl refuses to go with me just because i am an asian.
i feel your pain!
by the way this happens a lot more than you think in other places like bangkok/pattya. can you imagine? some gogo dancers will refuse to go with a guy even after mamasan has made the deal (or make an excuse like her period started). i have personally witnessed the phenomenon. fortunately there are plenty of others that are happy to take your money.
in dubai, you lucky bastards have such a variety, who gives a f**k about chinese:)
I had an opportunity to possibly spend 6 weeks in DXB this summer, but i turned it down. The pay was not what i expected and was afraid that I'll blow it all on CIS babes.
In an ideal world, I could have asked for a "mongering supplement" to be added to my contract, but it was not to be.:(
Sporadic,
Another thing I have only run into twice, is a lady "properly" outfitted with slinky undergarments. Nice bra and panties are normal, but where are the Victoria´s secret goodies? I would certainly give a higher rating to a lady so outfitted (and knowing how to improve the mood.)
In January, I rented a Dagastani(?) from Cyclone. She was dressed too skimpily so I asked her to change into something less risqué, because I did not want to walk into my hotel with an obvious *****. We made a detour to her place and asked her to wear something nice. Once we got down to business, she revealed an awesome set of undies, much like Victoria’s, and even did a very sexy/playful striptease to the music on TV.
She admitted that this was gift form an American client, and tried to get me to give her a parting gift (“What you gift for me?”). I pretended not to hear her.
From the few times I have been to DXB, this certainly was an exception to the rule.
Cat Scratch
06-23-04, 05:37
I don't want to bring anyone down but what follows is a cautionary tale.
I just found out last week that a good friend of mine had just passed away.
So what you say, happens all the time. Well, the friend was HIV+, and to the best of my knowledge he aquired the disease in the UAE.
How do I know he was HIV+? Because I was the sad, sorry bastard who had to inform him. (so much for these hypocritical, fuckheads-in-denial that you find without fail in the Middle East. They were more interested in deporting him immediately out of the country in handcuffs than confirming that he most probably contracted the disease from guess where?).
In less than 4 years the guy is dead (I can still remember consoling him with the optimistic view that with modern drug treatment he could expect to live at least another 20 years into his late sixties!)
The fact of the matter is that the sex trade in the UAE is run by Emiraties, many of them in the Immigration or Police force. If you doubt me ask any of the girls. They will inevitiably tell you that there is an immigration or police connection somewhere no too removed from the trade (otherwise how does the trade flourish in the bossom of righteousness?). These are the same bastards who make you run the gauntlet when leaving a disco or a bar with a WG. They are probably just putting on the public face of piety as ruffle through the dirhams in their pockets in their dishdash and plan how to scam more money to support their otherwise unsupportable lifestyles.
Anyway my friend had more than one Chinese girlfriend and he seemed to be "full bottle" on the African scene so who would know who he picked it up from but the lesson is clear: safe sex only, guys. Residents are tested regularly for STDs but the WG's are inevitably on short visit visas and so bypass the process.
Given all the shit that went on when I was there and continues to go on since I left the region, I'm glad to be out of the fucking place. I won't be returning soon.
R.I.P. M
This message is intended for all the "experts" of this forum who take pride in their experiences and yet put everyone else down whenever they get the chance.
People frequent this forum to enjoy their experiences in Dubai and learn from past experiences. If any of you cannot answer certain questions or divulge information, just dont do it, but don't go around hinting at every opportunity that you are doing them a favour by giving your comments. It is one thing to share information and totally another to share it and then shun the receipient by telling them their inputs do not deserve a reply.
You have a right to your discretion. No one is putting a gun to your head so let it be a friendly environment, without making sure of letting everyone know that you are the King of Dubai and everyone is after you for your experiences.
One exception - JSF - this message is not intended for you as you have proven your generosity on more than one occasion.
JustSumFun
06-23-04, 09:53
11bravo, sporadic
you hit the nail on the head. i either find them naked, or it is a quick, impersonal "changing room" kind of thing (indeed they sometimes will change in the bathroom.) what a missed opportunity to warm up the mood! i have had only one or two, who after a couple visits, act more like a real gf, running around half-dressed etc. i can identify with that mate. most ladies just remove the clothes in one swift motion ,depriving us of the titillating view of the garments coming off slowly, teasingly.
but with ly i dont have any such complaints. it is as if she has all the time in the world. she is already washed up, since she is in her house and not coming in from the heat outside. as soon as we enter the room she gives me a hug and tells me to go wash up. when i come out she is playing with her hair or something, still fully dressed. then she gives me a hug and a very passionate kiss and starts to take my shirt off. has to struggle with my belt but does not allow me to touch it. she does it all. makes me lie down and then stands on the bed, above me, with her feet planted on each side of me and dances, lazily, to the beat of the music from the stereo . and then slowly the top comes off. . well you guys can guess what goes on next. by the time she is in her birthday suit i am all warm and ready for action. she started doing this after the 3rd time i went with her. guess she got comfortable with me and wanted to give me more value for money. and all that is very much appreciated.
not even l does that as far as i can tell. l plonks herself on my lap, the moment we are alone, and puts her legs around me while sitting on my lap, facing me. deep kissing me all the time. she gets me all warm and then starts taking off her garments. well garment i should say. she usually is in a one piece suit when she is at e's place. so it is not much of a strip show. one whisk and there she is in her thongs.
i have heard of this victoria's secret goodies. a forum friend told me that he always gets some of those when he comes over from america and gifts them to the girls that he has a good time with. the ladies all appreciate the gift according to him. bravo and blake have met this forum friend once when we went to the york and then on to the imperial suites, where he disappeared. we had to leave without him that night because it was way past our bedtime.. :) we should ask him which ladies he gifted those victoria's secret goodies and hook up with those ladies, the condition being they are attired in the above mentioned goodies. ;)
sporadic
what you describe, my friend is not a pet-peeve; it is an outrageous insult. i agree, (i have heard this from a couple girls) that it may be a fact of life, but i do not have to like it. it is particularly offensive for those of us who know you. thanks mate. i felt insulted too and that is why i approached the lady in question and asked her to explain herself. needless to say i came into that lady's radar after that incident and she spotted me with you and bravo and cobolt99, and all my other caucasian friends, subsequently, and must have wished that she had not been so outrageous with me. she lost out on a lot of business from my friends so it hurt her where it counted. every time i went to the york, to meet some of our fellow forum members, she would be standing a few feet away and staring at me and wondering i guess. it is not a big thing anymore because she seems to have left the country. i have not seen her in quite a while.
justfun
JustSumFun
06-23-04, 11:17
Piper1
Some interesting developments in the Morocco WSG pages. Apparently a very regular poster there, Belguel (who posted many photos), went missing in action for a while, but popped up a few days ago and asked Jackson to delete all of his past posts, as he had been arrested and the police knew everything. He said the police asked him to keep up the action so the they could track down others). I went through the Morrocco thread and noticed that most of the members on that thread seem to feel the last posts by Belguel were not written in the same style as in the past. This could mean that someone else has been posting, using his id. I wonder if his computer got hacked and some hacker got hold of his id and password and posted those last posts. Though I cannot for the life of me think of a reason for anyone doing that.
But posting of nude photos, without defacing the face does pose some problems for the ladies I think. And that is one of the reasons why I avoided posting any pictures of the ladies I met. Until recently. I made sure the ladies were not readily recognisable and then posted their pictures. A couple of members requested me to send them unedited pictures of the ladies but I refused. I have not met those members personally and, though I dont mistrust them, I think the ladies will be better off if they are not recognised by all and sundry when they go out shopping or sun bathing etc. Forwarding photos to other members, without knowing them on one-to-one basis, could mean that sometime in the future the photos could surface in unexpected places. We must remembers that only a fraction of the members are actively posting on the forum. The rest are just voyeurs and lookie lous. So discretion is important.
Just my two cents worth. Not trying to flame anyone
Justfun
Hi JSF,
No need for the header, mate - no-one could interpret your post as a flame.
I agree about the danger of pics. I have several on hand, but only posted a low-risk one, as she is not known to the Yorkies and TGITers etc., and I obscured her face and airbrushed-out some identifying background. I have some pics of York girls, and I wouldn't want them knowing I posted their pics - even with faces obscured.
I did see Belguel's pics before they were deleted, and many of them were heavy-duty. Apparently this guy received a lot of hate mail PMs (not simply flames). While I'm not Muslim and I'm not easily offended, I could see that many of the pics would be offensive to Muslims. In fact, many of the pics seemed to be set-up to offend. His captions didn't help things - often derogatory towards the girls. Most mongers posting from Dubai seem to prefer a GFE approach (or at least the illusion of this, because as we know, business is business, even if there is personal rapport with the gal).
I have to say that my analysis of the emails is that Belguel's story about his arrest rings true, but I could be wrong.
Cheers guys
Piper
Out of curiosity, I just checked out the UAE photo section, and lo and behold! - I recognized one of my regular beauties! And I thought she was all mine!
http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/attachment.php?postid=200088
JustSumFun
06-23-04, 16:23
Piper1
Out of curiosity, I just checked out the UAE photo section, and lo and behold! - I recognized one of my regular beauties! And I thought she was all mine!
Your posts are coming through faster mate. Good for you. Wont be long before you become a Senior member. This was a good one mate.
Regarding the No Flame Header. Well I have been flamed quite a few times in the past and would like to avoid the flamers. So it is better to put a disclamatory note in advance rather than have someone, who percieves something in my post as a personal attack, attack me.
By the way Piper1. When are we hooking up? I get a distinct feeling that we know each other. And your pm sort of confirmed it for me. It would be nice to meet you and swap stories.
Koolman: Thanks for the kind words. There are a lot of guys on this forum who are genuinely helpful and they deserve appreciation too. Still looking forward to your promise to hook up the next time you hit dubai.
Justfun
Member #1263
06-24-04, 07:39
Hi guys, I reckon there could be some pussy action at the club Mix in the new Grand Hyatt!, cos I saw some hotties waiting to get into the club. Should check it out one of these days, although I assume its for members of hotel guest?.
Cheers
Denver Sam
06-24-04, 07:41
JSF / Bravo,
It has been a while since I wrote on this forum. I left Dubai almost 3 months back but regularly follow the exploits of the Kings of Dubai. My 2c worth on the girls though is as follows:
A Cab ride from the Airport to York DHMS20.
A drink at the bar from a beautiful girl DHMS70.
Hooking up with a cute girl for the night who makes you feel like a prince - PRICELESS
Cheers and do look forward to being in Dubai again and sharing the moments with you.
DS
JustSumFun
06-24-04, 12:45
Member # 1263
Hi guys, I reckon there could be some pussy action at the club Mix in the new Grand Hyatt!, cos I saw some hotties waiting to get into the club. Should check it out one of these days, although I assume its for members of hotel guest?. Grand Hyatt from what I have heard is not a very guest friendly hotel. And since it is so out of the main stream of things I doubt working girls would want to go there. Would be nice to know, once you have ascertained they were, indeed, working ladies.
Things getting pretty dull due to the summer and also because of the crackdown by the LE, due to the Dubai Summer surprises aimed specifically at attracting the families to Dubai. The SWs seem to be getting sparse. Walked through the parking lot near the Shoe mart and did not spot any ladies there yesterday night. It was around 9:30 pm so maybe a bit early but I have seen SWs there around that time of the evening before.
Have not been to the pubs recently, because most of my friends are either away on leave or out on business trips. Lucky guys. At least they are out of this heat. Tonight planning to meet up with Captain Fire and L for a few drinks. Should be nice. L and El are going to meet up with the Captain and his buddy later tonight and they have asked me to join them for a few drinks before they get good and busy. Will definitely try to make it.
Justfun
It's a good question about Mix at the Grand Hyatt. I heard from a friend in town that the customers are a mixed bag of couples, non-pros, and Cyclone types.
I regularly stay at the Grand Hyatt, and the level of night time security varies from day-to-day. There are ways to sneak a girl through if you're so inclined (lower entrance off the cafe to the elevators). What they require is that you register your guess (original passport necessary) and they will charge you extra. So whenever I check in--always on a business trip--I ask for the higher two person rate to avoid such a fee. Then the normal security guard at the elevator banks at night has my room number as a Mr. and Mrs. Surprisingly, a few days ago at 10 PM my regular girlfriend waltzed right up without any hassle.
JSF - I wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member ;) I may get to York very late tonight - will PM you.
Went to the Indian Nightclub (more like a cabaret) at President hotel last night. Wow! Those girls are the cream of the crop. I doubt that they are available for P4P, but if they are, it would be for a pretty penny I'm sure. All of them are 8 to 10 in my view, and there's one in particular that blows my socks off (unfortunately, only my socks) I have to say they put on a great show there - high quality and professional, no bored looking girls sleeping on their chairs while waiting for their turn to dance.
By the way, I never could work out why guys in the audience are motivated to pay for drink coasters to be thrown at the girls on stage. In Bahrain the guys would pay for Hawaiin-style leis (sp?) (necklaces of flowers) to be given to the girls. Does anyone know what this is about?
Had an interesting experience about a week ago - went with a girl for ST at her apartment, but when I was ready to leave, she told me my ST had become more like a LT (well, I was feeling energetic that night ;) ) and she wanted more money. I told her, sorry, no, we had agreed on a fair price. She then walked to the door and took the key out and took it and hid it in another room. Now this happened to a mate of mine a few months ago. He and the girl argued for a while, he paid her more, but she wanted even more. It was getting up to several hundred DH. Things started getting heavy, and he was virtually wrecking her place looking for the key. She didn't cave in. In fact she was screaming and attacking him. Eventually (after about an hour!) he looked out the window in desparation (he had a wife to go home to) and saw the apartment was only one storey up, so he climbed out, while she grabbed his shirt, tearing it. (Nice shirt too).
I was thinking about my mate's story as I sat and pondered what to do as I was locked up, a prisoner of love ;) I simply asked her with a quizzical tone - "really, you're locking me in?" She stood firm, arms folded and firmly said yes. I gave a disappointed sigh, shrugged my shoulders and said "okay then". I took my shoes off and I laid back on her bed, showing her I was ready for a good night's sleep. I was about to let her know I'd like scrambled eggs and strong coffee (milk, two sugars) in the morning, when she saw what I was up to and opened the door. I put my shoes on, smiled cheekily at her and left. I saw her again two nights later, and walked towards her - she was about to walk away, but I asked her what that was all about the other night. We ended up chatting a while and laughing about it. Later she came over and displayed her interest in a re-run, but I thought "not tonight thanks".
Anyone else been held for ransom?
Cheers
P
Keith,
What is the extra cost of a double at the G. Hyatt? I have experienced three other 5*´s in DXB who did not charge anything extra (I was already on a very good corporate rate, so I was quite surprised.)
Cheers,
Sporadic
I admit that I should watch the costs on behalf of my firm a little more closely! It drives it up from something like 600 Dhs per night to 725.
TGIT lunch-time Friday report:
I just had to see the daytime action for myself, and I have to confirm all previous reports. Talk about embarassing, my buddy and I walked in the door, a Chinese was leaning at us over a podium, and I asked her for a table for two. Yes I am an idiot at times!
We arrived at 1 PM and by 2 to 2:30 PM things had really picked up. While we're sitting there actually having a serious business conversation (old colleagues until I moved to a different company) there were regular interruptions--saying hello, pinching an arm or cheek, or just sitting down with us. My buddy is in the game, too, or I would never have suggested the place.
I was disappointed at the overall quality. I saw the so-called "crazy Turk" flitting about. It was an equal mix of CIS/Russian and Chinese. Too many fat women, and I mean seriously obese. You could easily go short-time for the 250 Dhs range.
JustSumFun
06-25-04, 14:05
Keith
I was disappointed at the overall quality. I saw the so-called "crazy Turk" flitting about. It was an equal mix of CIS/Russian and Chinese. Too many fat women, and I mean seriously obese. You could easily go short-time for the 250 Dhs range.
I am not much for the lunchtime ventures at the TGIT but I guess fridays are a bit slow. Thursday nights most ladies would be out on L/T, some on a number of S/T's so perhaps the cream-de-la-cream take it easy on friday afternoons. Just my personal opinion and as I said I hardly ever venture into the TGIT in the afternoons.
250 dhs for S/T, for a lady from TGIT, is a bit high in my opinion. Most, even during the evenings when there is more chance of getting a customer, would go for 100-150 dhs for S/T. So in the afternoon it should be 100 dhs S/T. My defination of S/T is one round. Perhaps if you ask for a couple of hours 250 dhs would be correct.
Justfun
I ended up at York about 1am Thursday morning (JS, I tried to PM you yesterday but when I tried to send it I was consistently logged out - looks like a cookies problem at the internet cafe).
Well, York was crowded last night - mainly guys celebrating a football match. But I did see a new beauty from Africa. Tall, magnificant body, very big rack, legs that went all the way to heaven (she was wearing a mini) and the face of a supermodel. I lost track of her in the crowd and decided she must have left, but later I wandered for a look around when the crowd had dissipated, and there she was! I walked over and had the usual "where are you from" chat, then decided it was getting late, so did the negotiations and asked her back to my place.
We had a drink and some small-talk, then I asked her to take a shower with me and she agreed. When I took of her bra I was a bit surprised at how much gravity had taken over - definitely not firm, but still okay. After we washed each other (nice!), we went to bed. She was fantastic. I was feeling a bit wild, but she warmed up very fast and was into everything - and I mean everything - very passionate! She only hesitated at CIM, but soon agreed, although I ended up stopping the BBBJ and got behind her. My only concern was that I was the one who had to instigate the condoms. Again, it was supposed to be a ST, but she stayed for a few hours and I ended up having to ask her to go home, as I had to get up in a few hours. I gave her a generous tip, as she was worth it. I took her phone number and will call her again. She calls herself Lilli. She walks around York with a very skinny and very dark-skinned friend (also very attractive).
Well, I'll be out of the country for a few weeks, so may not be in touch until I return. Have a great summer guys.
Hey Guys,
What's with the PMs asking me how to contact the girl who locked me in? You bunch of fetishists ;) (claustro-erotiphilia?) I have to admit I was tempted to call her again, but time was not on my side. I'll bring furry handcuffs with me when I return to Dubai, just to help her out. Hmm. How would I explain that to customs?
Piper
Ever Ready
06-26-04, 15:14
Hi Chaps,
I see a report in the Qatar section from Gunner, that Qtel have blocked the WSG site, but I'm not surprised. What is more surprising is that Etisalat hasn't yet blocked access. It'll be a great shame for Sporadic, JSF, Bravo, Piper etc etc, and me, if they do. Somehow I reckon it's only a matter of time before they do apply the heavy boot.
I’ve been told there are ways around the proxy server blocking thingy, but I don’t know how. Does anyone else know? If anyone knows, we should circulate how to do this now, before we find one day the “blocked” sign pops up and it’s too late.
ER
Ever Ready
06-26-04, 16:27
Piper,
Thanks for the report on Lilli. I know exactly whom you are talking about. I've seen her in the Yorkie-bar many times, chatted to her and bought a few drinks, but never taken her home.
Nice to know an Ethiopian who gives good head - most don't in my experience. You say she was into everything. Did that include stabbing the starfish?
Anyway your report has renewed my curiosity for this lady, and to get to grips with those great looking airbags.
I don't fancy her skinny mate though - I do go for nice slim types generally, but that one is just too skinny, must be like shagging a skeleton.
Keep up the good work – have a good summer.
ER
Hi,
This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.
I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it easier to read a report if the paragraphs are separated by a single blank line.
I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key TWICE at the end of each paragraph, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.
Thanks,
Jackson
Desert Fox
06-26-04, 17:46
Hi good people of WSG Dubai,
I will be transiting through Dubai for around 2-3 days and I was wondering if you could give me information about the action there, i.e. clubs, hotels, girls etc. I realize its a bit vague but any 'tit'bits would be much appreciated. Please post on forum or PM me.
Thanks much fellas.
Saturday night at Cyclone:
After all the abuse from you guys I decided to finally return and cough up my 50 Dhs, but this was only after stopping by Buidoir (spelling?) at the Dubai Marina Hotel complex and finding that they had a special cover charge and an Indian DJ. I'm told that this place usually has some classy Russians.
Anyway, my buddy and I clearly arrived too early at Cyclone--it was only 10:30 PM. Near midnight the place really started to fill up.
Contrary to all the reports here, I was not impressed by the quality. I kept saying give me one good looking Chinese and I'm out of here. Their dress for the most part was just too sleazy. After we politely turned down a few of them we did stop getting pestered. There was a whole line up on the left side of the bar as you enter if you could stand to run the gauntlet.
Has anyone seen the very tall blond Claudia Schiffer lookalike from Lithuania named Stella? We could barely get her to speak, but she has an awesome figure. There was a cute young Romanian named Christina who wanted like 700 Dhs short time.
I ended up with Jennet from Turkmenistan for a short timer (nicely dressed, good breasts, blonde hair). She was not the prettiest girl in the place, but when I caught her eye she smiled nicely, then I walked up, and we could carry on a real conversation! In a first for me SHE drove us to the Grand Hyatt in her Honda S2000 convertible. We had time for several CBJs finishing first with her on top then later me from behind and on top.
Now I am going to get 5 hours of sleep before heading off to Abu Dhabi for the day.
Hi guys,
I've read that QTel in Qatar are blocking WSG. I'm not a computer person, but this workround may work if it happens to any other providers in the area. Try 'pinging' the address. Go to Search and locate 'Run'. Type 'cmd' and get the old MSDOS window. Type 'ping' space 'the address you're looking for', (www.whatever.com) This should give you the set of unique numbers that make up the URL. This may get you to the site without activating the firewall. I can't guarantee it, but it may work. Anyone with further knowledge is welcome to suggest alternatives.
Expatcat
Expatcat,
The ping resolves the www.wsgforum.com to the numbers 207.218.250.74.
If the website is blocked, I dont think that using the IP address will get around the problem.
The following article may be of some help to get around blocked sites:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/08/30/MN188624.DTL
"U.S. plots to circumvent China's Internet censors. East Bay firm could help open up Web access"
JustSumFun
06-27-04, 14:34
Hello Guys,
I got a call from Captain Fire to come join him and his buddies at the Cactus Cantina, at the Rydges Plaza, and went over. I was a couple of minutes early because when I got there there was no sign of them. So I took the lift back down and there they were waiting for the lift at the ground floor.
I was expecting L and El to be with the Captain but so was E. That was a bit surprising. The mamasan with her girls. I got a sweet smile from L, patted El on her back and a gruff "how are you" from E. She loves me. It is just her way of speaking. She has a gruff voice so we have to be familiar with her to know when she is happy and when she is mad at us. This time she was mad at me. :( When we settled down in the pub she asked me why the heck I had not called the last Saturday or Sunday afternoon.
Told her, again, that it was pointless calling since L is always busy. She hurrrmphed. " dont you like my other ladies?." I said I do. They are all great. But L is something else. When L is gone I will come over for your other ladies. That seemed to mollify her and she said you are my da****g. I was sitting opposite her and had a solid table between us to save me from her customary bear hug when she says that. L sat next to me and kept talking with me. Captain Fire sat on her other side. El was sitting next to E and her date for the night, a friend of the Captain was sitting on the corner chair next to me. This guy is great fun to be with. This is the second time I have met him and we just seemed to carry on from where we left off the last time.
Inspite of my protests the beer kept appearing in front of me regularly. After the second one I was floating. But the thought that I had to drive back home kept me sober. Enjoyed a good hour and a half in this beautiful company and then El 's date said he had an early flight to catch so he left with her. After a few minutes the Captain also declared he wanted to be alone with L. Who can blame him? We all got up and I offered E a ride to her place. She happily accepted.
E got a call from a friend of Sporadic and he invited her and myself over to his hotel for a night cap. Well I had heard a lot about this gentleman and wanted to meet him. This guy is a gem. He and I met the first time but it was like we knew each other for ages. There was no moments of awkwardness. Sporadic had talked to him about me so he knew me by proxy. And since I had heard so much about this distinguished gentleman it was natural that we got along.
Meanwhile, a fellow forum member had been on the mobile with E, while we were still at the pub, and had gone over to her house. He did not find L or El there and Dar and Es were also out. He did not fancy any of the others who were on premises so he left the place. Called me up and asked me what I was upto. Told him I was at the pub with L and El. He said he had just left their place and would now like to go over to F's place if I was free. I agreed. But the ride to meet Sporadic's friend and a drink at his hotel with Dar and E took quite a while. By the time I hooked up with our fellow forum member it was close to 1 am.
We went to F's place and all the ladies were there. But the room was busy with Suzanna entertaining a customer. A couple more customers arrived and mama requested me to wait while one of the new arrivals used the room as he was in a hurry. Oh well!! I agreed. And then almost kicked myself for doing so. :( He picked Ly and went away with her. Man.!!! that was my night down the drain. Our fellow member also decided that he would forego the pleasure that night as it was close to 2 am and he wanted to have some rest. So we left. No mongering inspite of meeting so many of my favourite ladies that night. Must be a first.
Justfun
ps. Had a great time with Ly again ( Again!!! ) today afternoon. Cant help it. All the others were sleeping when I got there. She was showered and ready. she knew I might pop in around that time. Cant disappoint a girl can I ??
Hey guys - I'm jvery et-lagged, so I hope this post is coherent.
EverReady (do your batteries last longer?): To answer your question about Lilli and the starfish thing: Oh yes . As I mentioned, she was into everything. The shower was partly in anticipation, as I usually do a lot of wet tongue work to open the possibilities, so to speak. From the ease of it, I think she's experienced it before, and she likes it.
On reflection, the shower was an experience in itself, with a lot of fondling, deep kissing, and soap, but not at the same time ;) . I think she appreciated both the freshening-up and the foreplay, and so did I. I'll make it a habit from now on.
If you're attracted only by her impossibly huge rack, you'll be disappointed. When the bra came down, so did everything else. She must be in her late 20s, so it has to be expected. I didn't mind though, as we clicked easily, she was in no rush (like I said, I eventually had to ask her to leave, as she seemed like she wanted to stay all night), she has a great personality, was eager to please, and she is damned gorgeous. Also, you're right: For an African girl, she gave very good head - I was very pleasantly surprised.
Those of you sending PMs for her contact details: I'll ask her permission when I return to Dubai in a few weeks. Some girls like to have the word spread, but some are not comfortable when they get calls from unknown guys. Really, there's no need for phone numbers - you only need to check out a few of the bars mentioned on these pages (in fact, almost any bar in Dubai).
JS - I know what you mean! Cheers, P.
Actually i agree with Keith...if it is a freebie i'll shag anything (as my pics attest to (oh the shame)) but for cash....must be something special and the average quality is low in the place. However I would say that 1 in 5 of the girls in Cyclone are a 9.
Have you guys noticed that the Chinese are much more agreeable to things than the Russian/CIS crowd? I do pride myself on my DATY skills and the like, and it's a bummer to me when someone says no kissing, no fingering, blah blah blah. Well I can always get that line back home, which is why I prefer Dubai, et. al.
El Mujerista
06-27-04, 21:52
Dubai Trip Report - Day/night 1
This was my third trip to Dubai, and I must apologise for not posting earlier. However, I don't believe it would have been of much interest to the gents here since on my first trip I quickly acquired a Chinese "girlfriend" who kept me occupied completely on my second trip. Nice enough, but this time I had a hunger for "strange" that was easily satisfied, and which will be duly reported her in its blissful entirety.
Arrived Dubai at 19:30 on a Friday, a bit earlier than scheduled on the Emirates flight from London. Man, I love the forward facing cameras on EK; it's so great to watch a sunset landing at DXB.
Personnel from the Ramada Bur Dubai met me as requested and provided prompt transport to the hotel. Immigration was a snap; baggage claim took longer than expected but eventually my bag arrived undamaged.
I had formed a rough plan for the evening of using my free drink card at the hotel's bar (Rumours) -- which had been a good hunting ground in the past -- and then maybe going to other local spots like Imperial Palace and York before hitting Cyclone.
At Rumours, I befriended a Kyrgistani named Gloria. Cute enough, though perhaps a bit of a belly. I got her mobile number, and she and her friend invited me to join them at the Metropolitan Hotel to watch the Filipino band. I figured I was only seen as a goon to cover their taxi and cover charge, so I begged off as I led them to a taxi. I then walked down the street to the Imperial Plaza.
It was packed and dark, as usual. I went to the back corner, where I was quickly accosted by a pack of aggressive Chinese. I fled to the center, where I found a lovely petite brunette with shining blue eyes. She was Ukrainian, from Odessa (Dubai seemed to be flooded with lovelies from Odessa), but was just off the plane and couldn't speak a word of English.
I'm learning Russian since I plan to visit there again in September; however, I didn't think my skills were sufficient to make this a good experience, despite the lady's attractiveness. I begged off and walked to the York Hotel.
I've read there's a cover charge to the York Club; if so, they didn't charge me. I wandered through the dank, dark smokiness, fending off more aggressive Chinese to get to the bar and order a beer.
Whilst waltzing through the place, I was then accosted by Hanna, a little-bitty Eritrean with thick, curly hair. I don't have any Eritreans on the list of accomplishments (after this experience, I probably never will), so I decided to pull her -- stated price AED 500 LT.
We walked to the Ramada, passing a lot of unattractive streetwalkers on the corner opposite the York on Mankhool Rd.
Once at my hotel, this lady turned into an all-time disappointment. First, even though I found she wouldn't kiss, she still managed to get nasty red lipstick all over the collar of my golf shirt! Sheesh.
Once the clothes came off (and I only got her topless, but that was enough) I realized that my vision of a tight petite LBFM was in fact a short dumpy black chick with ugly sagging tittles and oversized brown nips. I needed an escape from this -- I feigned jet lag, fatigue, etc. and tried to buy her out of my life for AED 100. She asked 200, we settled on 150 and I sent off as a lesson learned. My mistake, of course -- mea culpa -- but I was not willing to let such a disappointment occupy my first night back in Dubai.
After a quick change of clothes, I returned to Rumours, if for nothing else to get a drink and recollect my thoughts. A cute brunette I had seen earlier was still there, though she had now seemed to have gathered a male companion with who she seemed rather cozy.
I was thinking it was time to head to Cyclone, but then the guy my brunette target was with appeared to leave. We made eye contact, she smiled and looked interested, and I quickly moved in. Her name was Zara, and -- hey -- she was another Kyrgistani. From Bishkek, the capital of Kyrgistan for those who don't know -- the Kyrgistani ladies I met were impressed I even knew this much about their country, since it is a bit obscure.
We were getting along fine, but then the guy she had been getting tight with returned! Shit. I hope it wasn't any of the regulars here, but in any case let me say now I would never intentionally move in on another punter's target/acquisition; I thought this lady was in fair play.
Fortunately, the bloke didn't seem to mind, and whilst my little Kyrgistani would occasionally talk to him, I was the one she was maintaining body contact with. You know, subtle leg-against-leg rocking to the music stuff. Finally, the other guy befriended another lady and they eventually left me alone with my new friend.
She didn't speak a lot of English, but we were able to work through the rough spots with the little Russian I've learned. I asked her back to my room, and she willingly agreed. She said she was 33 -- which didn't seem possible, as she looked barely 26 -- and that the day I was with her was her birthday. She showed a copy of her passport that would seem to confirm her story, but I would learn the next night a recent scam around the UAE visa laws is that for a price Kyrgistan will issue visas saying women are over 30 regardless of their age. So, who knows?
In the room, she stripped down to reveal some sexy underwear. I've followed the thread here about girls with not-so-nice undies. I have to agree with a statement by the guy on CSI (US TV program) the other night that "there's something heartbreaking about a pretty girl in shabby underwear." Her outwear had been pretty plain, jeans and a dark sweater with something resembling a peace sign, but her undies were sweet black satin, including a rhinestone fastener on the front of her bra. Woof.
What followed was a great first night back in Dubai. BBBJ whilst Zara was topless yet still in her panties (a particular desire of mine), then CFS in all the standard positions, CG, K9, and big finish in mish.
We cuddled afterwards in our hotel robes on the sofa finishing off the Ramada's courtesy fruit plate, giving each other mutual English/Russian lessons interspersed by tender kisses and caresses.
We went to bed at 04:00. She said she had to wake up at 06:00. We finally woke up at 08:00, and she was in a panic to leave. I had hoped for a morning round -- which disturbingly would not be had at all on this trip, except as noted in the Abu Dhabi forum -- but she was distressed that she was running late and had to go.
I hadn't paid her, and I was actually the one who brought up that maybe I should give her a little money. I asked how much, and she said "whatever you would like to give." I offered AED 400 and asked in Russian "enough?" She seemed OK with this, though she could have had more if she had said something and certainly would have deserved more if there had been a morning session. Oh, well.
She had said something about working in a "house," so perhaps the regulars here know this lady from one of the CIS places discussed her so often. Unfortunately, the mobile phone number she gave me doesn't seem to work (fast busy). I wouldn't have a problem seeing her again, if it's possible.
I know I've rambled on a bit, so I'll end this post now. More to come, as I was there for a week.
Happy Hunting,
EM
El Mujerista
06-27-04, 22:33
Dubai Trip Report - Day/night 2
The day after banging Zara -- as detailed in the previous report -- I had to spend an hour or so in the Etisalat office across the street from the Ramada Bur Dubai since my previous SIM card had expired and I had neglected to renew it after its one year validity (though I have no idea if it would be possible to renew from outside the UAE anyway).
If you have to do this, get there early. It opens at 09:00 and by 09:15 the place was already packed and the number I pulled was 20 away from that currently being served.
That done, I decided to go to TGIT at about 14:00 to see what might be had. This was a Saturday, and pickings were awful. There was a plump Ukrainian from Odessa who was friendly but to whom I just had to explain she wasn't my type -- she was nice enough about it, and I would later see her on both visits to Cyclone.
There were also some aggressive Chinese, which I had to fend off.
One of the problems I have with TGIT is that I inevitably run into some bloke(s) that I know, or sort of know, from business. On this day there were a couple of Brits and Scots of that type. Since the pussy present wasn't worthwhile, I proceeded to get pissed (drunk) with these guys. When TGIT closed at 16:00, they went to another hotel down the street -- sorry, I don't recall the name of the hotel, but the name of the bar is the "Victory." I had had enough to drink, and soon bid farewell.
After a power nap, that evening I had dinner at the Dynasty, my favourite Chinese restaurant in Dubai, at my hotel (Ramada Bur Dubai). On previous vists, I had received a coupon for a free starter at the Dynasty. When I had checked in Friday night, though, they said they were no longer giving these out. Lo and behold, at breakfast on Saturday, said coupon was in the portfolio with my bill. So I enjoyed a complimentary appetizer of my favourite, shark's fin soup -- priced double of all the others, but equalized by the complimentary coupon. Yum.
OK, down to business. At about 23:00 I took a taxi to Cyclone. I immediately met the chubby Ukrainian I had seen at TGIT. We exchanged pleasantries, but I remained on the lookout for my Chinese "girlfriend" that had occupied most of my first stay in Dubai and had entirely occupied my second (though that trip was broken up by a fuck from my other Chinese regular in Abu Dhabi). I was hoping to not see her, and fortunately on this night I did not (more on this in a later post).
Near the middle of Cyclone, just off the entrance to the gent's room, I spotted a sweet Russian "blonde" (I could see the roots, I know better; who cares?) in a rainbow-striped dress. Her name was Inna. Whilst I was also captivated by a petite "blonde" in an enticing red dress a table away (which you can read about later), I decided to pull this one. She asked 800 LT, speaking my fledgling Russian I negotitated a bit less, though as will be seen I didn't follow some fundamental rules and paid too much for services rendered.
We left, and instead of walking to the taxi rank she led me through the sand-covered car park to her rather new Honda HRV. She explained that she had been in Dubai for two years and had managed to somehow buy a resident visa, and had also managed to obtain forged documents that alleged she had a "legitimate" job in order to finance her vehicle through an Islamic bank!
This was quite fascinating. Though only 27 years old, she had become quite adept at negotiating the "system" to get what she wanted. She also filled me in on an apparent visa scam in Kyrgizstan, where young ladies could bypass the proposed UAE visa restrictions by issuing passports and/or visas saying they were over 30 years of age.
Unfortunately, the sex wasn't that great. She insisted on taking her clothes off in the bathroom (I like to do this myself, piece by lovely piece), CBJ was her rule, and after a vigorous CG and finish in K9, she announced "women don't like sex in the morning" (news to me). She did provide a second round, though she wasn't really into it and it was quite unsatisfying to yours truly.
She then left, despite the earlier promise of an all nighter. I've been following the thread in the Russia board about all Russians being liars. I won't stereotype, but I'd say this lady fits that label. It was an interesting experience in that I gained some insight to both Russian cleverness and UAE politics, but I would not recommend this lady and certainly won't be tempted to do her again.
Yeah, my bad for not clarifying terms and conditions and for paying before services were rendered. All of this would be carefully delineated in the nights to follow, with no further disappointment.
Fortunately, this was the low spot of the trip though frankly it wasn't that bad.
More to come.
Happy Hunting,
EM
Keith,
I dont know if the Chinese girls are better trained by their minders to give good service that the Russian/CIS girls. Perhaps in the competitive market place in China where there are lots of girls, the better service provider is guaranteed more customers than the one who ask for more money for extra services.
El Mujerista
06-27-04, 23:35
Dubai Trip Report - Day/night 3
After the intense shagging by Niko (as detailed in the Abu Dhabi forum), I was wondering if I had the stamina to perform again after having had three bells rung the previous night.
Not to worry. After a nap in the car, my testosterone level had again risen to the "must get laid -- now!" stage.
On this visit, I was staying at the JW Marriott, a girl-friendly hotel I described in detail in the Dubai hotels forum.
I didn't see anything happening at the hotel -- though it's a big place with a lot of bars, so this might be a possibility -- so I decided to try someplace new, Jules at the Le Meridien.
Actually, the bar is in Meridien Village, which is a bit offset from the hotel, so if you take a taxi there you'd probably be best off just telling the guy where you want to go. I didn't, and just got dropped at the hotel proper and then had to wander around a bit to find the bar.
Along the way, I was directed on my path by a friendly though beefy hotel security guy in a suit. I was also met on the pathway by a mildly attractive Chinese lady named Karen who handed me her phone number on a slip of paper and offered "massage." Interesting marketing technique -- since Jules doesn't seem to have a cover charge, I'm not sure why this was necessary, though I didn't see any Chinese in the place and perhaps that's a factor.
Inside Jules, lots of apparent CIS, all tipping the scales a bit over my desired line or otherwise not appealing. All looked hungry, and many attempts were made to gain my eye contact. Wasn't going to happen.
I found this whole complex very confusing. Maybe I'm just dense, but I was perplexed in how to get back to the main hotel where I might find a taxi. I finally just walked out to a roadway and hailed a cab. To where -- Cyclone, where else?
At Cyclone, I once again saw the plump Ukrainian I'd met at TGIT. I also saw the tight and appealing little blonde in the same red dress that I'd noticed two nights before. She was doing the circuit with a friend.
I was tempted to follow, but then damn if my Chinese "girlfriend" (who had occupied most of my time in my first visit to DXB and all of my time on my second visit) didn't show up right then. Shit. This was not a good scene, as (being the testosterone-laden, selfish piece of shit that I am) I simply no longer saw a use for her and couldn't find a nice way (should there be one) to say that. I remember a post in this board where Sporadic or JustSumFun or one of the regulars talks about the "emotional cost" of such attachments, however they be understood by the parties involved. Such was the case. Oh, well.
That unpleasantness dealt with, I noticed the little blonde in the red dress had returned to what seems to be her perch, the second table in the centre away from the gent's room, where I had first noticed her two nights earlier.
I went over and introduced myself. Her name was Galina (pronounced Ha-LEE-na), from Odessa, Ukraine. Like I said before, Dubai seemed to be crawling with ladies from Odessa on my visit.
Here's where things get interesting. Galina asks who I'm there with. I tell her I'm not there with anybody. I'm not trying to be ant****ial, guys, but for reasons of international security, domestic security and corporate security, I prefer to work alone.
In a first for me, she says she's suspicious of anyone who is there alone, and doesn't know if she wants to have anything to do with me. OK, this is amusing. I decide to make a game of it.
First, to win her over I speak to her in my meager Russian. This does make a bit of an impression, as I'm not sure the CIS in Dubai see a lot of guys who know a bit of their native tongue.
Despite her apparent suspicions, she was far from telling me to buzz off, and we continued to converse, though the music was just too loud for that to happen effectively. She was the one who suggested we go outside, a lovely idea since the night was rather pleasant and we found a table on the patio where we could both relax and speak freely.
This was fun. We were both very relaxed and speaking intermittent English and Russian. She asked me to buy her some cigarettes. The waiter brought them and I though he said they cost 30 AED; I gave him this. Later, I looked at the ticket and realised they were only 13 AED!. I called him back and said, hey, I'll give you a tip but please don't try to screw me around. He then gave me change for the 30 and I proceeded to give him a few AED as a propina.
By this time, Galina was getting warmed up and announced that despite whatever reservations she might have had before, she would be willing to go to my hotel room. Mercy.
The negotiations. She says 1000 AED. I cough, spurt, choke. She holds firm, despite my trying to bargain in Russian. I say "For that, you need to be damn good."
She says "I am." OK, maybe she is -- she certainly looks damn good, though I've been around enough to know that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Specifics: All night, BBBJ, 900 AED is what I put on the table. She says OK.
We grab a taxi and saunter in the Marriott. She's a classy looking chick and whilst I'm nothing remarkable I always dress respectably, so no one bats an eye.
In the room, we get comfortable. To her, this means undressing in the bathroom. Not my preferred mode of starting a session, but she insisted. OK, fine. Since she's in there, I decide to make myself comfortable -- I get nekkid and put on a plush robe from the hotel.
She comes out of the loo wrapped in one of the hotel's oversize bath towels and greets me in the centre of the room. Sweet, friendly kisses. Her towel opens up to reveal titties a little bigger and flabbier than I expected, but hey, they'll do. She also has a completely shaved bush.
She then proceeds to kiss her way from my mouth down my chest as she opens my robe. Before you know it, she's on her knees doing a fantastic deep throat on me. Shit. Fuck. And then, crickey, as I'm looking down at her, she crosses her freaking ankles.
I don't think I have a foot fetish or anything, but danged if there isn't something that gets me way excited about watching a young lady intently fucking or sucking with her ankles crossed. Maybe that's just me, though...
We move to the bed, where I lay on my back and get more of Galina's BBBJ. In what I guess could be called my "signature" move, I roll her over and straddle her chest whilst feeding her my cock and fingering her pussy.
I usually prefer them to still have their panties on at this stage, but since Galina had already dispensed with them I went straight for the sweet spot. Some ladies get into this, others don't. She clearly did, and I could feel her getting tremendously wet while she gobbled away. Wow.
OK, then. PPE (personal protective equipment -- someone should add this to the glossary) applied, she rode me in CG, we had a hearty banging doggie style, and then I flipped her over and did her in mish. She was barely 5' tall (1.52m), and I've found an exciting thing about small ladies like this is they sometimes put their feet flat against my calves as I'm thrusting into them. Damn (maybe I do have a foot fetish!) that put me right over the top. Yow.
Unfortunately, I had to get up too damn early and pretend to work that day. She put on her little red dress -- which she may wear every night at Cyclone, for all I know -- and left with my heart-felt thanks and a little tip. She also left her smokes, lighter and mobile phone number (the last one was the only thing of value to me, but the other items would come in handy later that night).
More to come.
Happy Hunting,
EM
El Mujerista
06-28-04, 01:16
dubai trip report - day/night 4
after the wondrous evening with galina, i was still feeling frisky. i used the high-speed internet connection in the jw marriott to search the dxb forum on wsg -- there, i found several references to rockafellas, a place to which i'd not been on any of my three excursions to dubai despite the fact it's only a block from where i usually stay at the ramada bur dubai (though at this point i was staying at the jw marriott).
i paid the cover and went up the escalator to the club. very crowded about 23:30 on a tuesday. the low ceiling helped add to the crowded feel, and the place was too damned dark for my liking. one good thing about cyclone is that one generally has enough light to adequately judge his purchase.
i did a circuit, after fending off a pushy cis at the bar -- the place seemed exclusively cis, not that there's anything wrong with that. i didn't see much of interest and was thinking about grabbing a taxi to cyclone when i ran across a little blonde dollface sitting at a table with three other women.
she was gorgeous, with what appeared to be no more than b-sized titties which is to my liking. i started speaking to her in russian, but it turned out she also spoke very good english. her name was irina.
she said she was from saratov (sa-rah-tov), which it just so happens i'm supposed to visit later this year. hey, any little angle helps in "sales," right?
she felt it necessary to explain that she "was working" and i explained in russian that i knew. ok, down to business. she asked 600 for the night, said she'd do "anything" but it was clarified that bbbj was on the menu. i never ask for greek, so i have no idea if that's included in her definition of "anything." with russians, one never knows...
all things agreed, we grabbed a taxi. she had been to the jw marriott before -- at a party at a bar, apparently not with a "guest" -- and questioned whether the hotel was guest friendly. she tried phoning a friend or pimp or somebody to verify this, despite my assurances there would be no problem. her pre-paid phone was out of time and she ended up using my phone. whatever.
at the hotel, we sauntered right in with a warm welcome from the hotel staff. there was some other party in the hotel that night that had apparently attracted a lot of couples, and we just seemed to blend into the crowd. fine.
in the room, she seemed a bit nervous and fingered through the hotel magazine while sitting on the sofa. she asked if i had any cigarettes. i don't smoke, but i just happened to have the box of marlboro lights and the lighter galina had left the night before. this seemed to calm her down a bit.
we played around and started kissing lightly, and then with a bit more feeling, and finally i unzipped her top and she unlatched her bra to reveal a couple of fine but relatively small titties, like her belly just bearing some slight damage from the kid she had a couple of years ago. no worries, as all were within my rather stringent quality guidelines.
we undressed each other and she gave a great bbbj. i then gave her my signature move as previously described of straddling her chest and feeding her my cock as i fingered her through her panties. she had a completely shaved snatch, but didn't seem to appreciate my ministrations as much as galina had the night before.
i did a quick daty but she didn't seem to like that either. she hadn't given a lot of kisses at first, but then seemed to warm up. after the daty, though, the gate was closed again. oh, well.
once helmeted, we did what was the standard for this trip, cg, k9, finish in mish. i've read with interest the thread here about "pet peeves" with the mobile phones appearing to top the list -- just as i was building to climax, her fucking mobile phone started ringing! i was well on my way and she was a sexy enough girl i was able to get past the distraction, so it didn't really hamper my performance or enjoyment. it was a bit annoying, though, and she was adequately apologetic though still didn't turn the phone off and later had a couple of conversations with friends who called whilst we were lounging in bed in our robes.
she gave me her mobile number and i've spoken to her since. despite the fact she wasn't altogether responsive, she is so lovely i would like to do her again on my next trip (or in saratov, should our paths cross), just hoping that the second time will be an improvement. however, i do vow the damn mobile phone issue will be dealt with firmly should we meet again.
one more report to come. thanks for bearing with me thus far.
happy hunting,
em
El Mujerista
06-28-04, 01:45
dubai trip report - day 5 -- the end
i pretended to work again after irina left, taking galina's cigarettes and lighter with her. russians...
it was only a half-day of work, though, and about 13:30 on wednesday i found myself again at tgit. i had a very early flight out of dxb on thursday morning and had decided that i would first try some afternoon delight as it would be pushing the clock a bit if i had waited for when things were happening at the normal hunting grounds. yes, i had by this time a whole cadre of phone numbers, but i was still in the mood for something "new."
tgit, as always, was a mixed bag. i first homed in on a cute little chick in a white dress. she was turkish, and the bad thing about this encounter was that whether she could speak decent english or not (i'll never know), her ugly bulldog "translator" repelled me so much i didn't want anything more to do with her.
i had seen another lady with short cropped brown hair across the bar, wearing jeans and a t-shirt reading "ghetto girl," as if she had a clue as to what that meant.
i flagged her down. her name was natali, yet another ukrainian from odessa. no problem there. the problem came when i tried to negotiate a deal. another tag-team, it seemed, another ugly bulldog "translator." i was quoted 300 aed for two hours. reasonable enough, given that we agreed on bbbj.
the kicker: they wanted me to pay at the bar. bullshit, i said. it's never happened, it's never gonna happen. dream on.
natali had at least two "managers" on site, both of whom i had the displeasure of speaking with. they were pushy and insisted i pay before i leave the bar, and i said this was utter nonsense and they could simply stick their policy somewhere as i wasn't going to have a part in it.
finally, one of the managers said ok, you can pay her at your hotel after you get what you want. ok, then.
natali had only been in the country a couple of months and appeared to be somewhat new to the biz. she was quite nervous after arriving at my hotel and quickly raided the minibar, first downing a chevas and water, following that with a quick bacardi breeze. i leisurely sipped a vodka and 7up as she kept urging me to "drink" (which, in russian sounds like "[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).")
i was cool about this as we had two hours and i doubted i'd be good for more than one burst, so these days i just like to prolong the enjoyment of burst one and i was hoping she'd just relax. after guzzling the second drink, it appeared she did.
clothes came off and despite her rather tatty outerwear, her underwear was black and sexy. grrr.
bbbj, then i go to the "signature" move described earlier. here, natali excelled, trying her best to take me as deep as possible into her mouth. i slowly worked my way in on each thrust, and then saw her do the little widen-the-jaw movement some porn starlets seem to specialise in; after that, i pressed ahead until time after time my pubes were pretty much against her lips. all this whilst i was fingering her cleanly shaved snatch. shit.
ok, condom time. she started in cg, then we went to k9. she had a nice ass and as i looked at her black discarded undies and recalled her fabulous blow job, i couldn't help but discharge.
later, we snuggled in the bed, me in the hotel robe but her still naked. our tranquility was disturbed by a vibrating cell phone -- she assumed it was hers, but shit if it wasn't mine. i hate it when reality intrudes at times like this.
the end
happy hunting,
em
Excellent reports El Mujerista! Thanks for the details :)
Eric
Ever Ready
06-28-04, 15:44
El M
Great reports, nice reading - You seem to have done more in Dubai in a week than I've done in several years of residing here!
Were you here on a business trip? Because if you were, it doesn't look like you had much time for anything other than mongering and typing reports to WSG. How do you explain that to your boss?
Keep up the good work anyway.
ER
Hello
I am returning to Dubai in September and wish to know of any bad experiences in the Dubai Marine and Beach resort. I have read 1 positive report here but don't wish to take any chances as I had no problems in the Al Bustan Rotana.
On this occasion I wish closer access to the beach along with my nighttimes activities.
Regards
Irish Lad
El Mujerista
06-29-04, 00:29
Eric T and EverReady, thanks for the words of encouragement.
ER, as it happens there was a full business agenda -- I didn't want to bore this erstwhile group with the details. However, it helps that I'm self-employed. There are clients, of course, but they generally afford a degree of flexibility in organising my schedule.
Happy Hunting,
EM
Irish Lad,
Dubai Marine IMO is the best hotel in Dubai, I have experienced it many times in the past and never had a problem, as a matter of fact in one of my trips I was there with two friends we had arranged for 10 ladies to come so we can choose 4 or 5 of them, the hotel was nice enough to escort them to our suites by their Golf cars.
I have not been there and actually Dubai for 3 months now, but a friend of mine was there 10 days ago and he confirmed the freindness of the hotel as always been.
Good luck.
Catching up on forum reading; only 1 item of general interest:
Perhaps the "arrival duty free" allowance has been increased; perhaps I've just misunderstood. But this week, it seems it is now: chose up to 4 items from the following set: [ 1 liter spirts, 1 liter wine, 12 pack beer ]; mix and match as you like (e.g, 2 bottles wine, 1 whiskey, 1 vodka). You should ask one of the clerks to make sure. Spirits are reasonably priced; wine... well, without a Boone's Farm Apple to set a price point... for me, any bottle that does not have a twist off top is probably expensive.
No FR's below, only replies and comments to past posts from Sporadic, JustSumFun, Piper1, Denver Sam, Keith, ExpatCat, Miao28, so feel free to skip (I wouldn't take offense even if the aforementioned skipped).
Sporadic, 06-22-04 21:47: I either find them naked, or it is a quick, impersonal "changing room" kind of thing ... I have had only one or two, who after a couple visits, act more like a real GF, running around half-dressed etc.
Another thing I have only run into twice, is a lady "properly" outfitted with slinky undergarments. Nice bra and panties are normal, but where are the Victoria´s secret goodies? I would certainly give a higher rating to a lady so outfitted (and knowing how to improve the mood.)Liked the changing room reference; yes, that certainly describes it! And know what you mean about GF's: one of my better ones, living in a barracks set-up, would spend up to the early afternoon with me the next day, only departing once it was lunch time at home. We'd sit on the couch, my back against 1 arm rest, hers against the other, legs entwined, as I read the newspaper and she did whatever. She'd just have on what she slept in, a t-shirt of mine. When she put her knees up, she'd catch me looking - perfect beaver shot.
While a lot of girls, like you say, have the nice bra and thong, have only encountered one who had the crotchless panties (was going to say "come across", but the across would not be entirely accurate).
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JustSumFun, 06-23-04 14:17: But posting of nude photos, without defacing the face does pose some problems for the ladies I think. ...I think the ladies will be better off if they are not recognised by all and sundry when they go out shopping or sun bathing etc. Forwarding photos to other members, without knowing them on one-to-one basis, could mean that sometime in the future the photos could surface in unexpected places. We must remembers that only a fraction of the members are actively posting on the forum. The rest are just voyeurs and lookie lous. So discretion is important. As usual, very well put. Faces should be obscured, even if the post is G-rated. It's WHERE the photo is posted (this forum) that also attracts attention. Girls take a lot of crap: one told me the other day she and a friend were sunbathing at their apartment's pool. Some guy shows up, stands in the corner, and starts masterbating in front of them, knowing it was not worth all the questions to report it to the police.
All I'm saying is: posting photos is a personal choice; what'd I ask is to obscure the face before doing so.
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Piper1, 06-23-04 18:02: I have some pics of York girls, and I wouldn't want them knowing I posted their pics - even with faces obscured.Agree with you there! By the way, did it say where Belguel was arrested: Belgium or Morrocco? I also saw the pictures and was rather amazed... I just had the feeling he might have been doing more with the photos than just posting on this forum, but could be wrong.
Piper1 Out of curiosity, I just checked out the UAE photo section, and lo and behold! - I recognized one of my regular beauties! And I thought she was all mine!LOL. But seriously, those ladies that can make you feel this way are real gems. I know several, who, 6 nights a week, I know what they are doing (after all, I can't be sole source support). But that 7th night, when they are with me, you never think of the other 6 nights; that's the GFE experience.
Piper1, 06-24-04 17:18: Had an interesting experience about a week ago - went with a girl for ST at her apartment, but when I was ready to leave, she told me my ST had become more like a LT (well, I was feeling energetic that night) and she wanted more money. I told her, sorry, no, we had agreed on a fair price. She then walked to the door and took the key out and took it and hid it in another room. ... I simply asked her with a quizzical tone - "really, you're locking me in?" She stood firm, arms folded and firmly said yes. I gave a disappointed sigh, shrugged my shoulders and said "okay then". I took my shoes off and I laid back on her bed, showing her I was ready for a good night's sleep. Damn, nice presence of mind to come up with that solution!!! No, I have never heard of this form of extortion before. Even though she later laughed it off, IMHO, this deserves a name and a bar to provide a warning to others about potential pitfalls with this particular girl. After all, others may not have your quick thinking abilities.
Piper1, 06-27-04 18:58: Those of you sending PMs for her contact details: I'll ask her permission when I return to Dubai in a few weeks. Some girls like to have the word spread, but some are not comfortable when they get calls from unknown guys. Really, there's no need for phone numbers - you only need to check out a few of the bars mentioned on these pages (in fact, almost any bar in Dubai). THIS ALWAYS baffles me. You've posted her name, description, and working location; she seems very easy to pick out. What's so difficult about venturing out and taking a look for yourself? That way, you can tell in a neutral environment whether she really is to your taste or not.
Piper1: Very enjoyable reading your posts and look forward to more.
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Denver Sam, 06-24-04 10:41: Hooking up with a cute girl for the night who makes you feel like a prince - PRICELESSWell put. Hope you make it back here soon.
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Keith, 06-24-04 16:00: So whenever I check in--always on a business trip--I ask for the higher two person rate to avoid such a fee. Then the normal security guard at the elevator banks at night has my room number as a Mr. and Mrs. Good advice for, I believe, a number of hotels. Everyone is a winner: you have some fun and get to ER a hotel bill with no curious extra-charges girl makes a profit for the evening hotel gets its profit and has plausible denial-ability (spelling) who would be so foolish as to irk a well-paying customer?The one danger is that if others of your firm don't follow suit; then maybe you're having to explain why you are always paying a higher rate (ignorance can work wonders: "I don't know; that's the rate they quoted me").
Keith, 06-25-04 16:47: Talk about embarassing, my buddy and I walked in the door, a Chinese was leaning at us over a podium, and I asked her for a table for two.Man, you are a trouble maker. Everyone in the room is now looking at me as I just read your post!!! ROTFLMAO. On the other hand, how much did she quote for a "table for 2"? :)
You get there at 1:00 to get a good seat; girls start arriving after 1:30. For those few who don't know, deal must be made by 4:00 when TGIT closes for 2 hours. My experience, chinese, are 150-200 dhs for 2 hours, 2 shots, massage in-between. Highest price was 300 for a cyclone a-list. Have also been quoted 500-600 ST from CIS; could have hurt myself as I fell off the bar stool laughing.
Keith, 06-27-04 01:01: Saturday night at Cyclone: Contrary to all the reports here, I was not impressed by the quality. I kept saying give me one good looking Chinese and I'm out of here. Their dress for the most part was just too sleazy. After we politely turned down a few of them we did stop getting pestered. There was a whole line up on the left side of the bar as you enter if you could stand to run the gauntlet.Ah, the Cyclone and the Chinese gauntlet... that can be a fun run. My experience is the dress is not sleezy; just too plain: low cut blouse and slacks; the ones wearing dresses do stand out.
There is a front table, to the right between the small middle bar and the large bar in front of the dance floor that usually has a number of a-list Chinese standing around it. JSF, Sporadic; you know what I mean. Especially just after 10:00; they're all chatting away, waiting for serious players to arrive.
And yes, one of my points: If you turn down too many, you will be catagorized as a non-player, rightly or wrongly
Has anyone seen the very tall blond Claudia Schiffer lookalike from Lithuania named Stella? We could barely get her to speak, but she has an awesome figure.Is she the one in the red pants suit?
In a first for me SHE drove us to the Grand Hyatt in her Honda S2000 convertible.Now THAT is a professional; business must be good.
Keith, 06-27-04 22:27: Have you guys noticed that the Chinese are much more agreeable to things than the Russian/CIS crowd?YES, very much so. Both groups are professional, it's just that the Chinese make you forget that and are willing to provide more GFE's (obviously, there are exceptions, but we are speaking in generalities here). My experience with CIS - it's a job. With Chinese, they too want to have fun and enjoy.
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Miao28, 06-27-04 16:49: The ping resolves the www.wsgforum.com to the numbers 207.218.250.74. If the website is blocked, I dont think that using the IP address will get around the problem.
ExpatcatTry 'pinging' the address. Go to Search and locate 'Run'. Type 'cmd' and get the old MSDOS window. Type 'ping' space 'the address you're looking for', (www.whatever.com) This should give you the set of unique numbers that make up the URL. This may get you to the site without activating the firewall. I can't guarantee it, but it may work.Simple enough to try, and it can work if they are blocking by url, not by IP address. Another work-around is to use an aol account.
Just a bit of a public chat with EM's FR's, so skip if you don't care. Very nice FR's EM. Very enjoyable read; hope you make it back here soon so can peruse some more. Do me 1 favor; get an upgrade to Senior Member - I would like to read your FR's in real time.
El Mujerista, 06-28-04 00:52: I got her mobile number, and she and her friend invited me to join them at the Metropolitan Hotel to watch the Filipino band. I figured I was only seen as a goon to cover their taxi and cover charge, so I begged off as I led them to a taxi.
Very astute!
I've read there's a cover charge to the York Club; if so, they didn't charge me.
Embarrassingly enough, caucasians don't pay. Also, arriving early gets you in sans cover, seemingly regardless of race.
I needed an escape from this -- I feigned jet lag, fatigue, etc. and tried to buy her out of my life for AED 100. She asked 200, we settled on 150 and I sent off as a lesson learned. My mistake, of course -- mea culpa -- but I was not willing to let such a disappointment occupy my first night back in Dubai.
Yes, sometimes you just have to cut your losses. Better to do it sooner than later; after all, your time is what's most important.
Her name was Zara, and -- hey -- she was another Kyrgistani. From Bishkek, the capital of Kyrgistan for those who don't know -- the Kyrgistani ladies I met were impressed I even knew this much about their country, since it is a bit obscure.
Every Kirgi I've ever met was from Bishkek; maybe it's the only city in that country :) But you are correct; they are amazed you know anything about Kirgistan. Also, have had Kazakstanis turn out to be Krygistanis; they just figured no one would know about Kirgistan.
We were getting along fine, but then the guy she had been getting tight with returned! Shit. I hope it wasn't any of the regulars here, but in any case let me say now I would never intentionally move in on another punter's target/acquisition; I thought this lady was in fair play.
She was; no faux pas here. She controls it (e.g. the body language); obviously, she did not take him seriously, so, when the chance arose, she closed in on her own better potential target. I'll hang around, discreetly, 15-20 minutes to see what happens. If I get tired of waiting, and I know her, I'll make eye contact, and give a discreet nod. If she's hooked up already, I'll get a sly shake of the head NO; if she considers him a lurker, she'll give a nod back and shortly move in my direction. If deal is still to be decided, she'll push for a decision. The only thing I'd object to, if I was on the receiving end, was if, after a deal had been done, she broke it; that's a Bozo no-no, and grounds for a permanent ban from my playing field (asking me if it was OK to postpone would be OK).
She said she was 33 -- which didn't seem possible, as she looked barely 26 -- and that the day I was with her was her birthday. She showed a copy of her passport that would seem to confirm her story, but I would learn the next night a recent scam around the UAE visa laws is that for a price Kyrgistan will issue visas saying women are over 30 regardless of their age.
Very common for a number of nationalities. I knew a 19 year old Chinese who had a passport stating her age as 34; immigration must have been blind.
She said she had to wake up at 06:00. We finally woke up at 08:00, and she was in a panic to leave. I had hoped for a morning round -- which disturbingly would not be had at all on this trip... I offered AED 400 and asked in Russian "enough?" She seemed OK with this, though she could have had more if she had said something and certainly would have deserved more if there had been a morning session. Oh, well.
Good and fair price, given the lack of a morning wakeup. Seems much more common for the CIS to want to bailout early. I would have expected to hear her ask for 500.
El Mujerista, 06-28-04 01:33 I had to spend an hour or so in the Etisalat office across the street from the Ramada Bur Dubai ... If you have to do this, get there early. It opens at 09:00 and by 09:15 the place was already packed and the number I pulled was 20 away from that currently being served.
On the other hand, they serve by number, NOT by 1st in the mob-line (or Italian style, as it is known). Some Etisalat offices are also open in the afternoon, from 5:00-7:00. Very big Etisalat office by Defense Roundabout on Sheik Zayed Road.
There were also some aggressive Chinese, which I had to fend off.
Yes, you do want to keep your options open, and not be hemmed in
When TGIT closed at 16:00, they went to another hotel down the street -- sorry, I don't recall the name of the hotel, but the name of the bar is the "Victory."
No doubt the Admiral Plaza
She asked 800 LT, speaking my fledgling Russian I negotitated a bit less, though as will be seen I didn't follow some fundamental rules and paid too much for services rendered. ... and after a vigorous CG and finish in K9, she announced "women don't like sex in the morning" (news to me). She did provide a second round, though she wasn't really into it and it was quite unsatisfying to yours truly. ... She then left, despite the earlier promise of an all nighter. Yeah, my bad for not clarifying terms and conditions and for paying before services were rendered. All of this would be carefully delineated in the nights to follow, with no further disappointment.
Thanks for pointing out again certain common pitfalls. We all learn from other's mistakes.
We left, and instead of walking to the taxi rank she led me through the sand-covered car park to her rather new Honda HRV.
Keith's car owner and now this girl? What are you guys paying? :)
El Mujerista, 06-28-04 02:35: I was tempted to follow, but then damn if my Chinese "girlfriend" (who had occupied most of my time in my first visit to DXB and all of my time on my second visit) didn't show up right then.
A class act is when the girl comes over, says hi, spends a bit of time chatting, then moves on, leaving you to make the decision. I've had luck with honesty: "tonight, I want CIS". I think it's more awkward for us; they know the score. As long as it's done politely...
I'm not trying to be ant****ial, guys, but for reasons of international security, domestic security and corporate security, I prefer to work alone.
I understand that perfectly.
The waiter brought them and I though he said they cost 30 AED; I gave him this. Later, I looked at the ticket and realised they were only 13 AED!. I called him back and said, hey, I'll give you a tip but please don't try to screw me around.
Well done; you can't let them get away with this.
El Mujerista, 06-28-04 04:16: Rockafellas, ... and the place was too damned dark for my liking. One good thing about Cyclone is that one generally has enough light to adequately judge his purchase.
You and I think alike (also on the loudness of the music).
the place seemed exclusively CIS, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Certainly my experience there; any asian looking were Kazakstani, Krygistani, etc.
I then gave her my signature move as previously described of straddling her chest and feeding her my cock as I fingered her...
That certainly is fun.
OK, down to business. She asked 600 for the night, said she'd do "anything" but it was clarified that BBBJ was on the menu. I never ask for Greek, so I have no idea if that's included in her definition of "anything."
Bit expensive without a morning wakeup. Did she bailout early - late night before sleep or early morning after sleep?
El Mujerista, 06-28-04 04:45: Yes, I had by this time a whole cadre of phone numbers, but I was still in the mood for something "new."
This is why it's worthwhile to collect phone numbers even if you don't pull her THAT night. You can use at a time more convient to you. Plus, you can perhaps negoiate a lower rate in off-peak hours.
The problem came when I tried to negotiate a deal. Another tag-team, it seemed, another ugly bulldog "translator." I was quoted 300 AED for two hours. Reasonable enough, given that we agreed on BBBJ. The kicker: they wanted me to pay at the bar. Bullshit, I said. It's never happened, it's never gonna happen. Dream on.
That's a "Danger Will Robinson" if I ever heard one. Members, learn from this, and beware!
Finally, one of the managers said OK, you can pay her at your hotel after you get what you want. OK, then.
Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. I just consider how much I am prepared to lose: money / chance with THIS girl. Sometimes one side wins, sometimes the other.
Ever Ready
06-29-04, 16:00
Bravo,
Regarding the Dubai Duty free allowance on arrival, they allow non-Muslims to bring in up to 4 items of alcohol. That means 4 bottles of spirits, or 4 bottles of wine or 1+3, 2+2, or any combination thereof. For beer, you can bring in a maximum of 2 boxes (12 cans/box) plus max 2 bottles of wine or spirit.
This allowance has not changed as far as I know for the past 2-3 years or so. Of course it could change for the better or worse at any time, but in reality, it’s not likely to reduce, as DDF make tons of money, and wouldn’t want to reduce their profits.
Hope that clarifies everything. Happy drinking and hobbying!
ER
Flame used as a teaching tool
Desert Fox, 06-26-04 20:46: I will be transiting through Dubai for around 2-3 days and I was wondering if you could give me information about the action there, i.e. clubs, hotels, girls etc. I realize its a bit vague but any 'tit'bits would be much appreciated. Please post on forum or PM me.OK, have given the bouquets, now for the brickbats. Since no one else has stepped up, I'll bring my bat to the plate. It amazes me how someone could expect an answer to a post like this. Certainly have not seen any public answers; perhaps Desert Fox has had more luck with PM's. But my feeling is: if he cannot be bothered to look at past posts, why should anyone answer in a current post? You read the back posts and glean your common info from there.
Common justifications I've heard before: "I don't have the time."
There are no Cliff notes for this course; do the homework. Besides, you have time to play; you have time to read.
"I want current info".
Just checked: 30 pages from here is only 1 April. Within those 30 pages, I know that while ALL might not be answered, there is sufficient info to have a successful visit. Just ask Jack S or Adimondo.
Sporadic NOW I understand the "pulse check" message. :)
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Koolman, 06-23-04 11:39: It is one thing to share information and totally another to share it and then shun the receipient by telling them their inputs do not deserve a reply.
...No one is putting a gun to your head so let it be a friendly environment, without making sure of letting everyone know that you are the King of Dubai and everyone is after you for your experiences.This is why we can't all just get along. I don't shun; I slam, and here is why. I slammed the post you refer to, and the above one from Desert Fox. One has to read previous posts, or use the excellent search engine, to FIRST try and find the answers himself. I will do everything I can to discourage posts like those. I believe they are an insult to the many members who do the work. Desert Fox - he must want an executive summary. Sorry, no executives here; just workers: You contribute what you can, you take what you need. But the take is not handed up; you have to do a bit of work for it yourself. How difficult is it to take an hour to read back posts? (OK, 2 hours if you move your lips. :) ) Yes, I can do it quickly because I know what to look for, but newbies have certainly been able to do so successfully (and some of the places where they read - Jack S in Afganistan can be no picnic).
Whether you post an FR or not is up to you. Like you say, People frequent this forum to enjoy their experiences in Dubai and learn from past experiences; mine just come with some overhead.
And, like YOU say, No one is putting a gun to your head; I would assume that ALSO goes for reading posts. One nice thing about having the posts clearly delimited with the author's name... you can easily skip. I didn't let these pass as I have tried to use them as a demonstration of what NOT to do.
One last thing: I have NEVER claimed ANY titles:
http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=230575&highlight=title#post230575
Finally, how do I view myself? Strictly MINOR league. My number of posts just means I have spare time on my hands; a real player would be out and about instead of writing. I just have some experience, which I pass along. If others benefit, excellent. If not, then I can live with that burden too.
EverReady Thanks for the clarification. Now everyone knows.
11Bravo, I am truly humbled that you found my FRs worthy of comment. I feel like I just got an A on my exam. The incident at the entrance to TGIT was an absolute honest to god faux pax. I can't believe how blatant her solicitation was.
I spent most of this last visit with Ying-Ying and it was a total GFE experience. She would arrive whenever requested, stay as long as I wanted, different attractive outfit everyday, anything goes attitude, and amazing massage skills. Plus no raiding of the mini bar. I know that she is not going to take random phone calls; you guys will have to hook up with her at York.
Keith: In reading your latest post, I thought of the original post, and once again, broke out laughing aloud. It is priceless and will be remembered as a classic (guys, if you've been to TGIT, you'll understand immediately).
In case you missed it:
Keith, 06-25-04 16:47: Talk about embarassing, my buddy and I walked in the door, a Chinese was leaning at us over a podium, and I asked her for a table for two.
Itch Scratched
A week ago ( http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=237736#post237736 ) I'd missed out on a girl that just had something about her. Tuesday night, having to do some grocery shopping, decided I'd make THAT fun, so headed off to Ramada Spinney's. 9:00 - 1 chinese SW; at best a 4. There was nothing!, let alone Miss Mini. So much for fun shopping.
Last night, Wednesday, decided it'd been awhile since a Cyclone prowl, so would head over there. Being stubborn and a glutton for punishment, decided to first swing by Al Ain parking lot ... hope does spring eternal. Got there at 10:00. Bit of a change from the previous evening. Just on the corner, at the Ramada end, 3 chinese. 2 could pass by with ease, but the 3rd... cute face, short hair, looked a bit older, but again, just something about her. She was talking with a potential customer, so just walked on (and no, I don't gawk). But resolve to head to Cyclone was dimming.
Note: there is a world of difference between Cyclone ladies and the parking lot crawlers. But, for me, sometimes you do see one that, in her own way, is just as appealing. After all, they all come with the same basic features...
Walking towards Spinneys, passed a tall, thin, long black hair chinese (yes, I know those are rare :) ); got a friendly wave; trying to remember if I'd ever pulled her. She was also worth a 2nd look. Then passed Linda, who I'd pulled from Imperial a month or 2 back. Very nice service, one of those on my to-repeat list which never seems to get worked off. (Can't tell if her not being inside Imperial means business is good or bad...). Further on, a cluster of 3 more chinese which, for me, were in the clutter category. Number of others interspersed amongst the parked cars. I was beginning to doubt if I'd recognize Miss Mini if she was not wearing THE skirt.
Just about the time I was figuring on walking to the corner, over to the Shoemart parking lot via the signal, then walk back on THAT side (didn't want to walk back on the Spinney's side, perhaps giving some the false impression I was interested), who did I see heading towards me: Miss Mini. Got a smile from her as we PASSED (she obviously remembered me; equally obvious, she had consigned me to the non-player bin). I stopped, turned around to watch Miss Mini walking away; what saved me was her trailing friend; she stopped by my side. Seeing me eyeballing Mini, she said something in chinese, and Mini returned. Marketing pitch for 2 was real strong. Like last week, Mini would not consider going alone to my place; she would only offer her place for a single. For my place, a double was the only option. Even an offer of LT did not sway her. Her price quote for LT was 300 * 2.
Note: Cyclone, maybe York, yes, a girl might have a decent place. But street? At best, a short time room. At worst, a corner in her barracks.
However, I was prepared for this turn of events. Having punted an opportunity once, I was not going to do so again. I was prepared to go for the double. The friend was not to my tastes; I would have passed her without a sideways glance. But as that was a requirement (package tour comes to mind), so be it. Requested a price quote for ST: 150 * 2.
Decision time: my place for 300; her place for 150. But I could only imagine her place; well, maybe I couldn't, and certainly didn't want to (in this case, 22 in the apt). Deal was made; ST, 150*2. OK, maybe I could have negotiated down to 100 each, but, for me, not worth the 100. Besides, we were starting to attract the usual contingent of lookie lous (what is it with those people?).
Back to my place; she obviously felt a lot more comfortable with a friend along (that does go a long way to making the experience more pleasurable, when she feels comfortable). And I do admire their loyalty to each other.
Once back at my place, very relaxed and friendly. No rush to get things started and over with; they were not watching the clock. One thing they did insist on: money up front. Given their behavior, I was not really worried; street girls do have to be cautious. In fact, I had asked Mini for her mobile right off the bat; regardless of how negotiations progressed that night, wanted a contact so I wouldn't have to be trolling the parking lots. She said she didn't have one (I knew she did as I'd seen her with one last week; my mind immediately jumping to conclusion she just didn't want to give it to me, I still being in the non-player category at this moment in time). But she then explained that a "bad man" had stolen it from her the previous night: a friend had called, she pulled her mobile out to answer, and some guy, walking past, had reached out, grabbed it, and ran. What was she going to do? Report to police? Too many questions in unfamiliar languages. Their best defense from deportation is just to blend in, never draw attention to themselves. For us, Dubai is safe, for them... Shame.
Anyway, I had no trouble paying the money up front (have the correct change; they are not banks). Things were going so nice that I pulled a page out of the forum, asking to switch to LT. No problem at the agreed rate: 300*2. Again, might have initially bargained to 250 each, but... an extra 100 was worth it to me just to have THIS experience once. After all, I HATE those missed opportunities that you don't have another chance at. Plus, I'd saved at least a 100 by bypassing Cyclone.
Good time. The CBJ would lower their rating, but they were insistent, and I don't force. What was nice, they were both responsive to foreplay, and did NOT do the sequential processing, one disappearing into the bathroom while taking care of business with the other. Doing one doggie, with the other behind me, massaging balls (and knew just enough pressure to apply), rubbing back, butt (MINE), etc. was very nice.
Did NOT get the "room too cold, bed too small" routines. With 3 of us in the bed, it was a bit cozy (hey, it's only a queen). Another score decrement was when they woke up EARLY (6); however, I did believe that they were truly hungry as I could hear the stomach rumblings. But there was no "I go home now"; rather, they politely asked when they could leave. I initiated a morning round, doing mish with the one I had not done earlier; here, I had to motion the other to get involved, but she did, willingly, again with the ass pushing and ball massaging. Nothing like being the meat in a sandwich. Overall, would recommend L & A. NOT Cyclone level, not York, but fun, perhaps in a more relaxed way.
The only other disappointment was in the miniskirt itself: one of those clever ones with the built-in shorts. Damn, as her thong was nice! Just proof of the definition of disappointment: the difference between your fantasy and reality.
One last note about the evening street girls: they're perfect for that nooner when you don't feel like going to TGIT; give them a call, arrange a pick up, and there you are; they are very willing to earn the extra cash.
Farhankhan
07-01-04, 12:24
Hi everyone,
After months of waiting I have been given the access to post reports, send pms, upload pictures etc. I am a regular of bkktonight forums and some yahoo group forums. But all this while, I was able to only read the reports in this forum, but could not post.
Now finally I have been given access. Will certainly make use of this access to post regularly.
Regards
Farhan
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please use a capital "I" to refer to yourself in future reports. Thanks!
Here is one from a totally different end of the spectrum.
A contruction foreman friend working on the Palm Island project (I am a CE) took me to a gangbang in the Burb last Thursday.
There were 10 of us - all except me worked construction and were from Pakistan or, strangely, Nepal. Each of us came up with 50 dhs. Went to a house in the Burb. A pimp brought in an older chinese woman in the late 30's who looked well used and submissive. A 4 in look, bit on the plump side with a big rack and ass. The deal was we can have non-stop, any thing go sex with her for 4 hours.
By the time my turn came, she had been fucked by 6 guys. I was not too crazy about the whole thing at first. While I was turned on by her big floppy tits that were red from all the pawing, she was sweaty and smell of cum. The BBBJ was limp at best and I was even more turned off when I can feel cum on her hair. Things got a lot better when I turned her around for anal. Took me no time to cum when she started wiggling her fat ass muttering something in chinese.
By the time it was my second turn, the bedroom was smelling strong of sweat and cum. She looked a real mess. I lost my apetite and just played with her tits while she tried to give me a HJ. We tried but really can't communicate since she did not speak a word of English. She seemed to be glad to get a break though.
Overall experience .... not sure I will like to do it again. Total production line. No shower to start and no shower afterwards. She basically just wiped herself down with baby wipe and onto the next guy. Pretty gross really.
Apparently my friend and his contruction people do this regularly. Most of the girls are chinese. Used to have africans (Ethiopians?). He invited me to join him again. Think I will pass and stick to girls at Cyclone or even the SWs.
BTW: Off to Doha next (first time). I checked out the Qatar link and it looks pretty limp. Anyone on this link know any better? If so, PM me.
Double Shooter
07-02-04, 08:33
MP FR
Called Thai Fitness Centre - got number from newspaper. Fairly upmarket apartment block in Golden Sands area. One girl only available, tall and slim, a 7 or 8, a genuine Thai not Chinese imitation.
She insisted on money up front: 100 for 'boss', 200 for her. Steep I know, but she wouldn't budge. I was about to leave but her sales pitch was good, so I thought what the hell.
The session was definitely below average. No massage. She basically tried to get me off with a HJ. But she did do a BJ (covered) on request - with plenty of intermittent HJ. BJ was quite skilfull. No FS available, but she allowed fingering and 69, and got very wet.
A redeeming aspect was her attempt to create a sanuk atmosphere. But I won't be returning.
Way to go, Le Grand; after reading your post, I had to go take a shower. I'll go have some drinks with my buddies, watch a football game, shoot some hoops. But what you describe... that's a definite pass. #6, then #12, with no shower and only baby wipes... Maybe this does lend credence to when girls say they don't want to go with so-and-so nationality as they have lesser standards of hygiene.
Yup. Pretty gross. On the other hand, hi, got to have somewhere to go for those laborers serving time. Given Dubai uses Singapore as a model, surprise they did not set up the same brothel arrangments.
I was a bit surpised about the girl though. While certainly no beauty, she actually looked better than some of the SWs I have seen. Pretty bottom of the barrel work though getting fucked more than 20 times a night. Guess her pimp think she can make more money for him that way than working the street for higher price per customer.
Not my cup of tea ....
> Maybe this does lend credence to when girls
> say they don't want to go with so-and-so
> nationality as they have lesser standards
> of hygiene.
I think it has less to do with nationality than economic. I think it is all a way for the pimp to offer his customers more bang for the buck (bad pun intended!)
I was told in even lower class session (the people I was with were foremen and supervisors), they would let people watch and charge them too.
Tonight I arrived in Dubai for the sencond time this year. Because I allways arrive late night I do not have any time for checking out the disco's. Therefore I call my regular CIS girl the moment I enter the airport.
By the time I've checked in and take a cap to York she's all dressed up and ready to rock and roll.
I always stay in the Capital Hotel because it is very visitor friendly, no questions asked and no checking of visa. I heard that because of the more stricked rules in the U.A.E. there are a lot of girls without a visa.
This first night with my regular is as everytime exhausting, she keeps on playing me for at least 2.5 hours. In the morning I wake up from her fiddling on my private parts. Then we get ready for an other quicky.
I an other report I read about girl who don't want a mirning ride, this popped also up in my conversation with my girl. All of a sudden she asked me why men like sex in the morning, because she and her girlfriends had a discussion on this. They came to the conclusion that most girls do not like sex in the morning.
Today I started introducing my KL friend in the Dubai scene, he felt the that he was the only chinese looking guy at TGIT.
Le Grand, 07-02-04 18:56: I think it has less to do with nationality than economic. I think it is all a way for the pimp to offer his customers more bang for the buckAgree, it IS economics (lower cost per individual). But, fact of life, those nationalities mostly likely to participate in that (due to economics) do cast a shadow in the venues we frequent. Example: those discriminatory entrance fees of the bars/clubs are set up to exclude just such people. Yes, they are unfair because they are selectively applied (let's be honest, by skin color), and that is my point - the shadow does extend to the clubs. Individuals are not judged as individuals, but by group (perhaps caste would be more appropriate, even though that is an ugly word). I think the girls apply the same logic. Like you stated: no shower and baby wipes!?!? That is not my sense of hygiene!
Le Grand:
I was told in even lower class session (the people I was with were foremen and supervisors), they would let people watch and charge them too. I will admit to some serious denial here. While I understood that these kinds of things go on, I prefer to pretend they do not. Not very honest, I know, but the feeling I get here is revulsion. Thanks for bringing this up, but for me, ignorance was bliss.
Cheers,
Sporadic
Guillomme:
All of a sudden she asked me why men like sex in the morning, because she and her girlfriends had a discussion on this. They came to the conclusion that most girls do not like sex in the morning. My research tracks with what you reported. As for reasons, IMO, the girls tend not to like the "morning breath" syndrome, while most men do enjoy an EMHO (pronounced E-Moe: Early Morning Hard-On.)
Today I started introducing my KL friend in the Dubai scene, he felt the that he was the only chinese looking guy at TGIT. I agree, most "Chinese looking" guys I have seen were flight crews, Chinese and Japanese gents do seem under-represented at the clubs. Anyone have a guess why that may be?
Cheers,
Sporadic
Hi LeGrande,
Is this the same gal from your photo April 4 that you say you gang-banged with your bosses? Personally, I've never been interested in gang bangs (or my bosses)
Well, there was one, but ;)
No. Lost track of that one.
Based on my very liittle experience in Dubai (3 trips), gangbanging seems to be quite common among the migrant workers. It certainly is a lot more cheaper for the customers and makes lots more money for the pimp.
Totally new experience for me ... Mind you, that applies to the whole Middle East.
On a very different note, I changed flight in Abu Dhabi on my first trip home very late at night ... around 1:00 a.m. The place was surreal, jumping and looked like a modern day slave market.
So there was this 747 discharging 200 or so skinny Bangadeshis who looked like they had never been on a plane in their life before and huddled together for 'protection' ... followed by another plane load from Pakistan, India whatever. Then we have a load of 50 or so small Indonesian maids with their head scarves, mingled with a group of 20 - 30 what looked to be chinese *****s with their Chinese, Indian or Pakistani pimps. Next came Lufthansa with well dressed business men from Europe and dressed to kill eastern block hookers .... adds in your small groups of Arab men in flowing white robes and women in black abaya .... and the whole thing reminded me of the bar in the first Star war movie.
I knew I was not in Kansas any more!
LeGrande - I agree, I've often thought that the bars (and some other places) in Dubai have the surreal "alien bar" quality about them. Only a week away from Dubai only makes it seem even more surreal - part of the experience!
Cheers
Piper
JustSumFun
07-05-04, 13:21
Hello friends,
Things are more or less back to normal now. The family is back and I am reined in. Hrrrmmphhh. Well in a way I am glad that I dont have so much free time. It was starting to tell on the pocket. The bank manager was walking around in circles, having seen the rate at which the money was flowing out of my account. Oh well that is his job to worry.
A fellow forum member commented, on another forum, that the York is a good alternative to the Cyclone.
I agree about the York being a good alternative to the Cyclone, especially earlier in the evening. The Cyclone starts getting filled up around 10:30 pm or so. (A fellow forum member was at the Cyclone from around midnight to closing bell on friday and the place was practically deserted it seems. Well not exactly deserted. It was not crowded.)
The York fills in the gap between those early evening hours between 8 pm and 11 pm. The quality of talent available is not bad too. We do encounter an odd stunner or two off and on. And quite a few 7's and few 8's too. So York is worth a look, at least earlier in the evening.
I met two forum members there last night. One has been an email friend right from the time that I joined the bkk and wsg forums. But we met for the first time yesterday. The other has been to dubai a few times in the last 6 months or so. And finally decided that he would like to make some forum friends. So he sent out a feeler to me. And I responded. We got together and it was really marvellous. It never ceases to amaze me. I have yet to come across a guy from the forum who I wish I had never met. Each and everyone of you guys is a gem. And it has been my pleasure to have a drink with so many of you all. Some of you have become very dear friends. Others do keep in touch but the infrequent nature of their visits to these shores means that we do not get a chance to meet as often as we would like. An amazing bunch of guys.
A Turkish beauty, who used to talk with me a few months back, she disappeared for a while, was back and she came and sat at our table. She was a bit withdrawn and seemed distracted. But she did keep smiling at us. Our forum friend was a bit tempted to pull her. Maybe he did. He was planning on going back in, in a few minutes. So maybe he did pull her. She is lovely. Her name is Amina.
Yesterday afternoon I got caught with some extra work at the office and could not go for my customary nooner. I had planned to call up a Turkish delight, Samira, that I have a number for or Ying, a chinese lady I have heard a lot about. But all those plans had to be dropped. In the evening the family decided to go to the supermarket for the weekly groceries. I begged off, citing tiredness, due to the long day at work. The moment they left I was in a cab to F's house.
Ly was out with a friend of hers. G, V, I, Sab, T and Sv were present. I picked T and we went in. Ly's absense meant I had freedom to play the field ;) . It is not that she insists I go with her. It is just that if she is there then I want to go with her. Must be getting old.
T is very energetic in BBBJ and I had to stop her from making me CIM. Told her to come into the 69 position and she got quite aroused. She started humping my mouth quite hard (she had forgotten all about the bbbj she was giving me) when she was close to orgasm. And she got my face so darn wet. Loved it. Then she wiped me clean with a towel dipped in warm water. Started on another round of BBBJ. This time it was my turn to enjoy. Wow. I was tempted to let her continue until I CIM. But that is N's speciality. So I stopped her and she got on top in cowgirl position. We had two more position changes and I finished in doggie style.
Afterwards, while we were lying on the bed and smoking she mentioned that a friend of mine had been to the house earlier in the afternoon. He had taken Ly and T together for group sex. Asked her who it was. She told me. It was one of the fellow forum members who met me at the York later in the evening. He said it was not him but one of his friends (who had gone along with him to scout out the place) who took the two of them, and that friend was simply ecstatic about the service. Well I have repeated ad nauseum. These girls give excellent service.
I missed Ly though. :(
Justfun
Telemachus
07-06-04, 07:02
Was in Dubai during the last week of June 2004.
Finally I could meet JSF after being in touch with him thru e mail for more than a year.
Met JSF in York and spend some wonderful and memorable moments with him
Met Mamma and the gang at F's place courtesy JSF.
Had time to go the place twice during the week.
Could not meet F herself but met the rest of the gang who were very very freindly and special treatment as I was JSF's pal.
The first day I took N (it was pre determined after reading JSF 's report about her)
Took her for an hour; She makes you feel as though she is already in love with you; Never a moment she tried to hurry. On the contrary she will delay each step and genuinely enjoying each moment.
Started with BBBJ which she insisted then to 69. Her's is a very lean body. Continued that position for some time and I had to force her to use a condom; She contined with CBBBJ. Insists on putting the condom with her mouth. Looks up and smiles at you while at work
I could not hold on and had to let it go.
After a while tried out the missionary positon. She talked a lot during the procedure. (Ii never have done it with a blond before) N appears sad but once at work she puts in 100 %. Looks 8 Attitude 9 GFE 9
Two days later took on V. She is N's best friend and had a better figure than N. Had only time for short work; But if you ask me to chose between them my vote goes for V. It was 5.00 PM and V had just finished her bath and was in the bath robe while I selected her.
First thanked me for selecting her ahead of G and the gang. Straigtaway opened the bathrobe and started kissing me on the lips and caressing, Then helped me undress. I washed and came back. She was waiting to attack. Insisted on BBBJ and to my surprise I received the best BJ of my life. Licks the tip and sucks balls then runs her tounge all over the shaft and finally sucks and it goes on
taking me to heights. I got scared a while and wanted to go an wash & then to put on condom. She refused to leave me and puts the condom with her mouth then continued CBBBJ and then for a while we did 69. Then shifted to doggie style and finally missionary position. I really enjoyed V 's company. Very very happy and cheerful girl. Lovely skin. Breasts a lil bit sagging.
Looks 8 Attitude 10 and GFE > 9
I have a feeling that almost all the girls at F's place have the same attitude . Looks like they have been trained well by F.
I must thank you JSF once again for the great time I had in Dubai.
Telemachus
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Member #1263
07-06-04, 07:11
Hi guys....how about having a cash machine at Cyclone :)
1263
Hi guys....how about having a cash machine at CycloneDon´t laugh gents. You will probably see sms (mobile) based paypal transactions being available from Etisalat in the next 14 months or so. If you think the ladies are chained to their mobiles now, just wait!
Cheers,
Sporadic
Thunder Strike
07-06-04, 09:07
Hey people, Hows it goin. I need a fave from yall, I will be in Dubai for a couple o'days and I wanted to know if it is possible to get C anywhere there.
Thanks
Strike Three Im out
I went to York for the first time last weekend at around 0030 and thought it was absolutely awful, crowded full of undiserable characters of both sexes. And judging by the prices offered , certainly not a cheap alternative to any place. Yuk.
And to answer the comment from Mal..yes an Arab from UAE/lebanon mix, but she is a complete nut and I am in the process of running away at 110mph.
Member #1263, 07-06-04 10:11, how about having a cash machine at Cyclone They do already; go into the gents toilet, and look in the mirror.
Dear all,
I do enjoy all your banter and 11Bravo's comment on the mirror gave me a good laugh. It felt like a Truman Show moment knowing the whole world(disco) knows we are on the prowl for that magic moment of escapism from reality where we willingly part with some hard-earn mollahs for some va va voom babe pushing up her cleavage with a tight bra two size too small.
I have on some occasions spotted some good lookers ie tight jeans and tank tops with spaghetti straps with the right curves at the right places while shopping at Spinneys Trade Centre Road and Carrefourre Bur Dubai which are definitely "magic" material. Though I never have the guts to approach or smile as too many prowling eyes where one may never know that there may be those that may recognise you and you did not see them coming from the corner.
I went to my regular AMP and had Monica whom was petite, however she had the right set of racks that willingly hovers over your face as she slowly massages your chest. Heavenly feeling and without further ado, as they say the rest is history. I enjoy going to a regular one as I feel safe and secure. The best part is she does not even mentioned the tip where she willingly lets you pay what is fair. However I always feel the extra effort must be rewarded and I tip a little bit extra. I think it's probably a men's perception and hoping that next time she will go beyond borders and do that extra mile in pleasuring your senses.
I went to Jules Bar at the Airport Meridien at around 11pm and the number and quality of CIS girls have gone southwards. I will post my next FR in the next few days as I have some free time to survey and burn my liver along the way.
There are also some double tag team action at TGIT, however they will take turns and it felt like a wrestling match. This is further complicated by the frequent condom change as you want to change position and girls. Not really fun as fumbling around in a tiny room (their place) and with the possibility of their flat mate outside the room trying to talk to the girls loudly in Russian.
Anyway, my 2 cents worth.
FD
Member #1263
07-07-04, 07:14
BRAVO...I am glad you knew where to find one..thanks. The American hospital just opposite to Cyclone as well!!
Last night my friend I where taken out by an ex-pat who lived in Dubai for the past 15 years now. We didn't want to go the regular action such as York, Regal Plaze, Ramada, Imperial Suites etc. So we went to Deira where we checked out some bars. We started in Nihoul and made our way upstreet. There is action going on but not as much as the regular bars. We enjoyed our time there and then went over to Sea Vieuw. A very nice bar with excelent live music and some very good looking girls. My friend ended up with a very nice looking Eritrean chick and after he and my ex-pat friend left I just called my regular CIS girl.
Ever Ready
07-07-04, 23:52
Guillomme,
I don't know what your women were like, but if you found the Seaview (Mezz floor Marines Club band) - you found THE BEST ROCK BAND IN DUBAI, possibly the best rock cover band in the world. Well, I've travelled all over and never found a better band anywhere for real talent.
The guitarist plays so good, it's unbe-fucking-lievable! And the lady on bass, she’s a real star. If the other members haven’t experienced this band, well, you're missing a great night. Get down to the Seaview and have your ears blasted by some great Queen, ACDC, Floyd, Guns& Roses, even mellow Gerry Rafferty, Eagles, Smokie (Alice, Alice who the f*** is Alice), they do it all.
Hear this band do Bohemian Rhapsody with all the harmonies. Hear them do Sweet Child of Mine. Holy Shit, they’re amazing. No I’m not a shareholder! I just love the band and their talent. Keep on rocking!!!
PS, the hookers there are not bad either. Not as "in your face" as the Yorkiebar, but a good selection nevertheless.
ER
Guillomme, 07-02-04 23:12: I an other report I read about girl who don't want a mirning ride, this popped also up in my conversation with my girl. All of a sudden she asked me why men like sex in the morning, because she and her girlfriends had a discussion on this. They came to the conclusion that most girls do not like sex in the morning.
Andy Rooney on morning differences.
Men and women are different in the morning. We men wake up aroused in the morning. We can't help it. We just wake up and we want you. And the women are thinking, "How can he want me the way I look in the morning?" It' because we can't see you. We have no blood anywhere near our optic nerve.
JustSumFun
07-08-04, 13:07
Hello Friends
There is one peculiar behaviour I have noticed in some punters. Wonder if any of you have encountered this kind of behaviour too. A few times, while I was sitting around, in a CIS house, chatting with the girls, I have noticed guys come in and sit and look around. And then they just get up and leave without pulling any of the girls. and this has happened quite often. Now this kind of behaviour in the York or TGIT or any of the pubs would not draw any comment. But these houses are not out there in the open. So the guys would probably have gone to a lot of trouble to get the contact number and location etc and would have come there with references obviously.
What is the big idea of coming in and just ogling the girls and then leaving. Before the guy arrived he knew exactly what was on offer. And if what is on offer is not to his liking then why bother going there in the first place? Is it because he has read so many Fr's or heard so many stories about the girls that he wants to see the girls in the flesh. Just so that he can form very vivid images about the girls when he reads an FR about them? I find this behaviour very weird.
A couple of guys took the reference from me and did that as well. They knew what was in store and yet went there. They obviously had no intention of pulling anyone. So why the heck go to all the trouble.? I was asked by the mama once. " Why did your friend come here if he did not want anyone? This is not supermarket. This is working house". Window shoppers are frowned upon. The reason is obvious. When a window shopper is sitting around some other customer might be told to come after an hour or so because there is only one bedroom. And the assumption is that the Window shopper will pull somone and occupy the room. But since he does not pull anyone, and because they told the other customer who called to call back in an hour, they stand to lose from both ends. The customer who called could go to another house rather then wait. Why go there and make the house loss out on a potential paying customer just because you are occupying valuable space to satisfy your curiousity?
Couple of times, in such instances, since my name was used as reference, I was asked a couple of questions which I had no answers for. Strange behaviour indeed.
Justfun
Ever Ready
07-08-04, 14:44
JSF,
I can well appreciate the problem. My guess these guys are purely "lookers" out for a free thrill or two, and perhaps they then retire to the privacy of their own room to play a round of self-service pocket billiards whilst fantasising about the girls they have just seen.
As you rightly say, popping in and out of the various clubs and bars without making any "business deals" isn't so much of a problem, and as many people are charged to enter in the first place, at least the hotel makes something from them, even if they succeed in evading the relentless sales pitch of the bar staff.
By the way, I had a very good evening in the Yorkie-bar yesterday (Wednesday). Late in the evening, I was chatting to a very sexy girl from Moscow, who promised all kinds of exotic (well downright filthy really) activities in her repertoire.
Unfortunately, an old pal spotted me and engaged me in conversation just at the time I was about to get into negotiations with the lady, and by the time I had extracted myself from him, the lady had disappeared. I didn’t even have time to get her number, and I forget her name.
Oh well, I’ll have to hope I spot her again sometime. Russians & CIS are not usually my choice, as I prefer Far-Eastern delights, but there was something about this lady that would definitely have persuaded me to dine on a Russian salad for a while, (or longer).
At some time JSF, if you feel I am suitably trustworthy, I would appreciate a PM with the location of the CIS private house. Or let’s arrange to meet up for a beer sometime and have a chat. We have never (knowingly) met face to face. It would make a change from the noisy smoky clubs, and running the gauntlet of the street girls in the parking lot opposite.
ER
JSF:
If these "gents" actually just came by for a look-see, you have a legitimate reason to grumble. Very bad form.
I hope you know who they are, I would not like to innocently inflict them upon any providers I know.
A case of cold feet I could understand, but visiting a house to stare like an exhibit in a zoo is bad ju-ju.
Cheers,
Sporadic
JSF: For me, this is the trouble with a house: no player programs. In a bar, you can see what is on offer. But in a house, if you've not been there before...
Two possibilities: Delusional. Given great FR's, a punter arrives thinking she will be great for me. But when he does see the actual choices... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You can tell me some girl provides the greatest service, but if I don't find her attractive, she will find nothing to service (grew out of any port in a storm a long time ago). So perhaps reality was not up to the mental images generated by other glowing FR's. A good FR provides me with secondary data IF I find her appealing in the first place.
Lookie lous. I certainly don't discount this possibility either. After all, there is a valid reason why bars impose entrance fees (besides the obvious profit motive). It keeps the lookie lous out. Even approaching a girl in the Shoemart or Al-Ain parking lot draws attention (especially on a Thurs. night). I'm sure people like this come for cheap thrills, grab an eyeful, then have plenty to converse about for the next couple of days: "Did you see the t*ts on that b*tch", "I could have really pounded her", "Yea, I could have made her scream" etc., etc.
To me, it's fair to arrive, take a quick look as to what's on offer right then, and, if finding nothing that appeals to you, leaving with a polite no thank you.
You want to window shop: hit the bars.
EverReady, 07-08-04 02:52: I don't know what your women were like, but if you found the Seaview (Mezz floor Marines Club band) - you found THE BEST ROCK BAND IN DUBAI, possibly the best rock cover band in the world.Thanks, ER. Will definitely have to check this place out. Now I have 2 reasons, the hot CIS babe I met in Rockafellas (she said she was just checking it out, her office being Seaview), and now a good R&R band. Music is the one thing I don't like about Cyclone, and the band at York (sans female singer) also leave a lot to be desired.
EverReady, 07-08-04 17:44: ... and running the gauntlet of the street girls in the parking lot opposite.Hey, that's one of the few free forms of exercise I get. Also gives you a chance to practice your public speaking.
Hi All - re window-shopping:
I have to admit - I'm guilty! On more than one occasion, but many moons ago, I have visited houses (not your places JSF, I'm pretty sure) to check the availability. I'm fussy, and if I'm not tempted, I politely say "maybe next time, thanks" and try somewhere else. I'm sure there must be lookers, but what a waste of effort. A wander around City Centre (or the beach) is better if all you want is to scan some eye-candy into the brain for pocket-pool later on.
Well, I'm missing Dubai (sniff), but am heading back soon!
Until then,
Piper
Member #1071
07-09-04, 14:19
Sea View is a choice to concider. They have a philippino club where you can listen to some nice R&R music and the girls are mainly from the TAN countries.
Another is a Russian bar with some hote chicks from the eastern CIS countries.
An Arabic club with morrocans mainly. Expensive and UGLY.
My first pickups in Dubai where from Seaview and managed to have some nice girls and some of them I do keep in touch with them, althoug endulging in carnal activities with them is rather difficult for me now, one main reason is that they don't offer in house service.
JustSumFun
07-09-04, 17:25
EverReady
At some time JSF, if you feel I am suitably trustworthy, I would appreciate a PM with the location of the CIS private house. Or let’s arrange to meet up for a beer sometime and have a chat. We have never (knowingly) met face to face. It would make a change from the noisy smoky clubs, and running the gauntlet of the street girls in the parking lot opposite.
Sent you a pm earlier. Was hoping you would see it and reply today since I might not be online saturday at all or sunday late evening. But not to worry. I would love to hook up with you one of these sundays. Perhaps this coming sunday around 9 pm? if you have the time. Just leave me a pm. I am leaving some hints on how to locate me, at the York, on a pm to you. But mind you I won't be there unless I know for sure that you are coming or one of my other forum friends is coming. It is pretty boring standing there all alone. The girls try but it is still better having a drink with a fellow forum member than chatting with a girl who has only one thing in mind.
Cheers
Justfun
Dxb Person
07-09-04, 17:34
Hi all,
My first post but been following up on the forum for sometime now. Been in UAE for around 10 years and seen things get more and more interesting.
I heard about a lot of places that you are talking about.
One place I have not yet heard people mentioning is the Sheraton in Deira (after the Marriott). The place has some nice CIS girls. Very few Chinese or Africans in there. It is a nice place to pick up some nice CIS chics and have some good time. Most live in that area so you won't even have to worry about taking them back to your hotels.
Ramada 'Rumours' is no more that interesting. The action is not as good as it used to be in the past. Hint to all. If you are looking for some anal action, try to find a tall CIS chic with long blonde hair showing off her big tits. 90% of your time you would be doing her anal. She has a daughter with her so she won't stay the whole night or take you to her place. She is very classy and likes men to treat her nicely. She sometime hangs out with a short blonde with the biggest tits I have ever seen. She is also really good and she would take you to her place. You don't need your own place.
I will post more about some of the other places soon.
Take care y'all
JustSumFun
07-09-04, 17:40
: from 11bravo on 10:54 pm on July 8, 2004
JSF: For me, this is the trouble with a house: no player programs. In a bar, you can see what is on offer. But in a house, if you've not been there before...
I agree. Never been there before. Only seen the FRs and want to experience the same. I can understand that. Then why not go for the experience? Everyone has their own likes and dislikes. Why go over if we are a bit fussy about what we want. It is better for us, if we are looking for someone extraordinary, to go to the pubs which attract stunners. We are more likely to find someone who comes up to our preconcieved idea of perfection.
Two possibilities:
Delusional. Given great FR's, a punter arrives thinking she will be great for me. But when he does see the actual choices... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You can tell me some girl provides the greatest service, but if I don't find her attractive, she will find nothing to service (grew out of any port in a storm a long time ago). So perhaps reality was not up to the mental images generated by other glowing FR's. A good FR provides me with secondary data IF I find her appealing in the first place.
Again spot on. But I think another thing that makes it worth their while is to go over and have a look is thati t does not cost them anything. There is no entrance charges. They have a good reference which allows them access. Who cares if, in the process, they screw up the referee's standing at the establishment. What does it matter that, while we sit around there musing, the boss of the house is turning away some potential paying customer, because the boss thinks the room is going to be occupied once the guy decides on which one to pull. That is the sad part. The house losses out because he does not pull, after having sat there musing for quite sometime, and the boss has turned away some regular or told the regular to come after an hour or so. The regular, in such an instant, might just decide it is no fun waiting for an hour and goes over to another place. I have done that. I was told to come after an hour once. Told them quite frankly I dont have the time and I will go to another house and visit this one some other time. When I went over the next time they told me they were sorry and they should have told me to come right away because the window shopper was just wasting their time.
Lookie lous. I certainly don't discount this possibility either. After all, there is a valid reason why bars impose entrance fees (besides the obvious profit motive). It keeps the lookie lous out. Even approaching a girl in the Shoemart or Al-Ain parking lot draws attention (especially on a Thurs. night). I'm sure people like this come for cheap thrills, grab an eyeful, then have plenty to converse about for the next couple of days: "Did you see the t*ts on that b*tch", "I could have really pounded her", "Yea, I could have made her scream" etc., etc.
Yes the lookie lou's. The thrill. Oh the joy of having seen the girls mentioned in the FRs in the flesh. Really does make it much easier when they are fantasising over the girls.
To me, it's fair to arrive, take a quick look as to what's on offer right then, and, if finding nothing that appeals to you, leaving with a polite no thank you.
You want to window shop: hit the bars.
Couldn't agree more.
Justfun
Dxb Person
07-09-04, 17:54
Hi all,
There is a place where there are CIS dancing girls. This place is called 'Rasputin' and it is in one of the hotels next to Deira Clock Tower.
The lead singer is 'Victoria' and there are a number of really hot girls in the band. Pay attention to them and try to flirt as much as you can. Pick on one and keep on smiling at her and make sure before you leave she has your number. She would call you in a couple of days time around 5am in the morning, and you can start working on them. Don't make them feel likes pros right from the begining. Talk, flirt, and then propose to go out or for her to come over. Then you can go for it.
They are all hot and very approachable.
Tried and tested.
Enjoy!
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Complacency - a deadly trap - lesson for All, and I do mean ALL
Having been out very late Wed. night/Thursday morning at Cyclone (FR/lessons to follow, but minor), I was, as usual, shattered on Thursday. 5 hours sleep just not enough. Nice thing about Dubai, I'm sure you can get serviced 24/7; but, for me, I restrict myself to the extended hours of the public places. I like to hit a place around 22:00; yes, early, but good sampling for an asian studies major. And it gives me a chance to eat dinner, relax, hell, even take a nap before going out. But if you're not ready till midnight, no problem. 1:00 - no problem, though you might have to stand in line at Cyclone to get in (lines are NOT my thing). Given that my sleep cycle was all screwed up, I even considered going out 2:30 Friday morning - not to go into the clubs, but to see what could be plucked from the receding tide of the exit flow. So, even with a sudden change of mind about going out late, it is possible. But I passed. Why?
Because of the public ace in the hole. TGIT afternoons, 13:00 - 16:00. Perfect for when you were too tired to go out the night before. I hadn't been there for over a month, so this was the perfect excuse to check it out. Got there bit before 14:00. Find a parking space in the hotel lot; great; minimizes that "Friday afternoon, everyone on the street walk of shame". Grabbed a drink, bumped into a buddy there. Also saw some regulars; Fifi was nice enough to come over, say hello. Class lady, friendly, fun, good service. Probably the only reason I don't pull her is there is no anticipation of the unknown. But, like I say, she comes over just to say hi. See a couple of others, but nothing that leaps out. In fact, poor M/F ratio.
See the Russian queen bee madam with her swarming drones. No thanks!! Do miss seeing the Turk; probably the first time I've been in there in a year when I haven't seen her. (No lessons yet, but they're coming). Past 14:30, working on 15:00, place filling up with some nice looking ladies. See 5 or 6 chinese that are interesting. Guy arrives with a girl in tow; we (come on now, the girl and I) exchange smiles as he's talking with his buddies. I'm NOT trying to cut in; she's obviously taken today. lesson: you can always lay groundwork for tomorrow, as long as you are discreet, and don't step on any toes.This goes on for a good hour. OK, she's registered with me; I with her. Next time.
Smile at a passing 6 chinese, she stops, introduces herself: Jingjing. Nice, friendly, without being pushy. Seems to have reasonable english, enough to flirt with. Nice cleavage. Now, if it'd been a week, I'd have been out the door with her..., but I'm in no rush. I don't want to waste her time, so tell her I'm there to drink. She's very classy about it; says maybe next time I'll give her a chance, and moves on to target the group standing next to me.
See 5,6 more chinese who attract my gaze. No Cyclone A-list, no York A-list, but still, nice for a lazy afternoon with a couple hours to kill. Unfortunately, they're all in that class of "nice, but I don't know..." Everytime I see someone I think I'll go over and talk to, I delay, and my gaze lands on someone else. Looks like Jingjing has struck a deal, and I'm thinking I might have been a bit hasty.
Now about 15:15, deals starting to be made. Jingjing's deal seems to have fallen through, if it was there at all. Give her a smile, she comes back. I've just about made up my mind to pull her; she looks like she could be fun. Looking over her head, I see a 5, but the mini she's wearing looks nice; then spot another 6 cute face. OK, enough of this, lesson: don't second-guess yourself; make a decision; you can always come back another day.Now I'm starting to dance with Jingjing; she's mentioning her place ("nice, big, only 2 ladies"), but when I don't have to, lesson: I don't give up the home court advantage.I tell her I always go back to my place. Just then Jingjing's friend comes up, and I get introduced to Yaya. Cuter face, and she's wearing a skirt instead of slacks (plus for me). On the other hand, Jingjing's put in the marketing time, and she is good at flirting. She explains that Yaya has only been here a month; little english.
Now, the real lessons, so pay close attention. I ask for a price quote. Get a "pay what you want". lesson (for me): too much room for misunderstanding; I like a firm price. So ask for a price quote, not really specifying which girl; Yaya better looking; Jingjing more "personality" (at least better english). Answer: (You know what's coming), take 2, 300 each. Nice try, but I pass with a polite "No thank you". They revert back with the "pay what you want; more enjoy, pay more; not enjoy, pay little". Like I say, I never go for this (sod the spontaneity). Now pay close attention, because I'm writing it just as it happened: I ask again for a price quote. Now it's 200 each. I toy with the idea of 2, but that has to be special. A lot of times, 2 are actually less fun as they are more reserved in front of the other than they normally would be. Warning bell goes off and experience kicks in; I tell Jingjing I will take only 1; 2 for their safety doesn't seem to be an issue.
Do admire their loyalty and helping the less fortunate; Jingjing tells me to take Yaya. OK with me as it's Jingjing who makes the decision. For furture reference, I get Jingjing's phone number. lesson: can never hurt to grab her phone number if she looks promising. I tell Jingjing, just so there are no misunderstandings: "200, and I'll return her home around 18:00 (I'll cover transportation)". Chinese discussion, get an OK. I tell Jingjing next time, I'll take her, and out I go with Yaya. OK, class. What's missing? Come on, P4P 101.
Flash forward to my place, 15 minutes later. We're having a drink, relaxing. I take a couple of photos of her; not x, just portrait shots. I find it can break the ice; they all seem to like seeing their faces. I'll have them printed at the photo store (they must get a kick out of me), and give them to the girl next time I see her. She's making noise about going to bed. Now, for me, this is a warning sign; after all, I am not delusional that she's so hot for me she can't wait. If we've got a couple hours, what's the rush? But OK, maybe she's bored. We hit the bed.
Now, it's "give money now". Is the picture becoming clearer? I understand, being newly arrived, she's probably been told get the money up front; don't leave any room to get ripped off. So I'm not real upset. On the other hand, smart vendors should be able to size up their clients, and I should pass. But, OK, she's newly arrived, so I will cut her some slack. BUT ONLY NOW do I do the work of finding out what's on the menu before handing over the money. I tell her "2 shots"; she absolutely refuses; "for 200, 1 shot". I counter with, "No, 2 shots..."; wish I had had my camera, as the look on her face was priceless; "1 shot" with the dictionary definition of adamant on her face.
Now, I'm more mad at myself than her. Because what had my complacency and carelessness earned me? To be honest, both walking to the car, and driving back to my place, it had flashed through my mind that I hadn't asked. By then, I just hadn't wanted to stop and take the 30 seconds to clarify services (as I'd done with price). I just assumed it'd be OK (and we all know what assume stands for - makes an ass out of u and me). Very stupid. LESSON: Discuss services, including shots BEFORE leaving the bar.I believe she's thinking, after driving out to my place, and it being now past 16:00, I'm not going to cancel the deal. Wrong. She's cute, but not that cute. We haven't even undressed yet; I just tell her I'll take her home (my word does mean something to me; I told her I'd cover transportation, and I will). Now she's on her mobile, trying to call someone, telling me "wait, wait", but too late. I do a quick check: is this my stuborness? No, I can miss an opportunity with her; the mood is definitely gone. Even if she did agree, how much fun would it have been? She thinks I'm trying to rip her off, I think her price is not worth it.
As a last cut, as I'm putting on my shoes, she's making signs of taking photos, and asking "money, money". She thinks she's going to get paid for some portrait shots? I quickly show her how to erase the memory card "All gone, finish".
Took her back and dropped her off; mighty quiet ride. I'll assign blame 50/50: will give myself a bad FR: I failed basic P4P 101. On the other hand, 200 was fair for 2 hours, afternoon, 2 shots, in my view. If she can get more, fine, but not from me. So I will NOT "not recommend" these ladies; I'll just state the obvious caution: Get the details up front, especially at a place like TGIT.It's frequented by newly arrived ladies, and the rules are not always clear. Bottom line: it just wasn't worth it to me; one afternoon lost due to my own complacency.
Member #1263
07-09-04, 21:52
Hi guys...what defines a full LT night? is it correct from cyclone standards, babes wanna go out after 1am and stay till 6am! for 1000 AED!!
Furryscott
07-10-04, 12:19
Heeheeee,
11bravo, You are the man!
Love the blurb you just put up. Makes me think of the days when I'd watch "Kung Fu" when Carridine would be teaching the little kid something with a story, not a lesson. Keep up the good work! All the knowledge you can impart I will soak up with a sponge!
Hi all,
This board has been very busy! I have been incommunicado (i.e. no net access) for a few weeks and just read through all the great reports. I am already anticipating my next trip to DBX, hopefully in August (11B, remember - my turn for drinks) Unfortunately, I still owe an FR for my last night in Dubai on my previous trip. So, here goes.
I had met a very nice (non-pro - I think) girl from Turkmenistan in the Rock-Bottom Cafe and she had said that she had a couple of friends and that she would like to get together for drinks in the near future, so I was waiting for a call for a nice night out (hoping, but being realistic as well...) So, in the afternoon of my last day, I called Elena, the great Ukranian girl I had met at TGIT earlier to see if she was available. She was just getting out of the shower (it was around 4 or 430 pm), but said she could be over at my hotel in about an hour and a half. No problem. I eagerly awaited. While I was getting ready, I had a call from the Turkmenistan girl that I met and asked me if I would like to get together with her and her Czech girlfriend for drinks later at this spanish place, near Planet Hollywood (by the Grand Cinemas). My luck is picking up!
Elena arrive, looking great! Very made up, but very sexy. She asked me how long I wanted and I said that I had about 500 DHS left, so she said she could do 2 hrs for me. I knew the service would be great, so what the heck. And it was! Elena is blonde, I would say looks 7-8, but with a definite 10 personality and great body. Her enthusiasm and English skills are fantastic. She really takes charge (I like that) and we moved from position to position with great ease. I managed to get off 2 shots, but she is definitely one of the best GFEs I have had anywhere. In fact, her GFE is better than some of the sex I have had with previous girlfriends! We finished up, she cleaned me up and left me with curled toes and an ear-to-ear smile! A definite repeat next time I am in town.
So now to my next 'date', which I had some curiosity, but no expectations other than some good company. I arrived a little earlier at the restaurant, a Tapas bar, and got a nice table and started a little meal. The girls said they will have already eaten and were just coming for drinks. I was amazed at the number of beautiful women in this place. No pros, that I could pick out, but you never know. Most were very friendly, and I was mildly flirting with a gaggle of older English lasses, that I am sure would give a good run for the money. I just admired the scenery and couldn't help noticing that the ratio of men-women was definitely skewed in my favour.
While I was sipping my wine and having a nice piece of chorizo, my Turkmenistan friend walked in with her Czech friend. Wow! Both were very looking fantastic. When they sat down, I was getting some interesting looks as people were trying to figure out the dynamic between us I bet. I learned from them that it was ladies' night at the place and that they got some free drinks. Apparently, most girls can pretty well drink for free most nights of the week if they know where to go!
We chatted and discussed a variety of subjects and as it turned out, one has a fairly jealous boyfriend and the other is married, but I really enjoyed the company. It was a real ego boost hanging out with these two. As the evening progressed, one of them suggested that we check out the new disco at the Grand Hyatt - I was game! Off we went in Miss Turkmenistan's car. The disco itself was beautiful, but empty. I was then informed that Dubai has a lot of working girls (no, go on!) Miss T started to actually tell me about it and point out the ones in the bar. I was really beginning to wonder! Finally, the subject wound its way to the Cyclone. Again, Miss T suggested that we should go check it out, as no trip to Dubai was complete without seeing it.
Off we went and I walked in with these two babes with me. Unfortunately, we all still had to pay cover (I got theirs, figure it was the least I could do!). We checked the place out and actually started to dance on the dance floor. Not too many people out, other than some Arab blokes who were dancing with themselves (and no Billy Idol on the sound system) We danced for a couple of hours and then the Czech girl left, leaving me alone with Miss T. I could not read the vibe, although we were dancing for another hour or so. In the end she told me to enjoy myself, and get in touch with her next time I am in town?
She took off and I found myself wandering the Cyclone. As most readers realise, you are never left alone, at the Cyclone (could be their marketing pitch) and I soon found a couple of not bad (6) Turkish girls who were offering the evening with both of them for 300 US. I figured it was close to closing and a good way to finish my night off. I took them both back to the hotel and had a pretty good session until I started feeling a little queasy. I managed to get two shots away before I said that I should just get some sleep. One left, which was cool, as I initiated the closing down. The other said she lived in Sharjah and couldn't get their anymore tonight, so she ended up staying over. This was not bad, as it lent me to a little more fooling around and we ended up passing out cuddled up. There was no morning action and she left pretty early, so I don't think I would repeat. The service was not bad, but nothing spectacular. I was happy that both serviced me at the same time and not sequentially, as I have read in the board before.
Well, that was my last night in Dubai, which leads me longing for my next trip! Now if I could only visit when it wasn't so damn hot I could actually see some of the city!
Farhankhan
07-10-04, 15:16
Hi everyone,
Visited a thai mp in humriya last week. Thanks to a contact from a friend from the yahoo mailing group. That place, villa is one of the best mp villas i have visited. The house was really well decorated. Very posh and rich. I asked the madam how much for the villa, and she said Dhs 110,000 for a year rent. Not bad for a MP house eh.
The service was very good. They had many girls but they were all busy. So only one girl, Soda, was available. Even though that girl did'nt look stunning, maybe a 6 or 7 marks out of 10. The service was excellent. The best part I liked about the MP was that there was no pushing for tips or pay in advance. But guys, no full service or bj. Just good massage and a hj.
The charge was Dhs 100 for 45 minutes, but came in 30 minutes : ( And no tips required to give. Its totally upto you. The madam even told me that giving tip was totally upto us.
Will certainly be visiting the place some other time to check out the other girls.
Regards,
Farhan
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Member #1263, 07-10-04 00:52: what defines a full LT night? is it correct from cyclone standards, babes wanna go out after 1am and stay till 6am! for 1000 AED!!Difficult question to answer as it depends on many things: on the girl, current market conditions, time of day, etc. By the price and criteria, I'm assuming we're disussing an a-list occupant. They can set their own rates/conditions; if you don't pull, someone else will.
The after 1:00 am is explained by liking to squeeze in an early evening ST. For the 6:00 am departure: I've had several tell me their definition of LT is: "until you fall asleep, then my job finish, I go home." They prefer to not sleep in a different, strange bed every night. Rather, they go home to their comfortable apartment, shared with 2 or 3 other girls, to their own bed (they don't live barracks style). This is also less disruptive in another way. If you have to get up early, then she has to wake up, get dressed, grab a taxi, go home, THEN try and fall asleep again to be refreshed for that night's work. Even if you have that day off, she doesn't; she has to always think of the next night. Of course, for the right price, everything can be overridden.
As an example, the girl I pulled Wed. night from Cyclone, initial quote was 800 dhs LT as it was only 10:30. I passed, telling her, somewhat jokingly, I'd wait until 1:00 for her to get her ST out of the way. 12:30, she was back, looking for me. 500 dhs (our standard rate), and it was I who was waking her up as I had some things to do Thursday morning.
But I think you are asking the wrong question. The correct question is: "what is your definition of LT, with departure hour?" Based on that, then you see if you can find an attractive girl who agrees with your definition. Sometimes you can, sometimes not.
For those who insist on an early departure, I try and negotiate a compromise. Sometimes this works, sometimes not. If not, then I evaluate the additional burden of that on me (I get up early every workday morning; hate doing it on my day off). Sometimes, it's not worth it, so I pass. Others, to sample once, I agree (you can tell when this happens by the timestamp of my post).
And even if she agrees to a compromise, this is easily modified: I've woken up, found her wide awake, just waiting for my first eyelid flutter, so she can ask "I go home now?". One nice thing about the male's tendency to wake up "good to go" is you are ready for the morning wakeup as soon as you are awake. If she declines to perform the morning service, I never force; that just guarantees a bad FR and I NEVER pull again. Most will do with no fuss, especially if you've specified in the initial negotiations. The bad side is, at least for me, if it is an early morning wakeup, that does wake me up, and the rest of the day is wasted.
Your question does bring up one crucial point when dealing with a-lists: always best to see what they think the departure time will be, and make sure it fits with yours. I always do so, and have declined some just because of the "you fall asleep, I'm out of here" take on things.
Furryscott, 07-10-04 15:19: be teaching the little kid something with a story, not a lesson.Ah, Grasshopper, Master Po takes that as a large complement because that is what I try and do. It's easy to find the action here, it's the small hints and lessons learned that prevent mistakes.
Jack S, 07-10-04 15:21: ...you are never left alone, at the Cyclone (could be their marketing pitch)ROTFLMAO. Best one I've heard in a long time; I can see the t-shirt now.
Member #1263
07-11-04, 07:07
Hi 11 Bravo, thanks for the answers mate. LT does have different meanings I assume.
The babes were ofourse A- list types from Romania. I doubt if the service would have been A- type!.
These are the girls hanging at the center bar of cyclone.
Hey I was there on Wednesday as well!!....cheers
Dxb Person
07-11-04, 12:28
Hi member 1263,
I know the Romanian girls you are talking about. I was with the one with curly long hair a couple of weeks ago. She was the most amazing lay I ever had. She will do everything you want her to do. And she has the J-Lo type of ass. Was so sexy seeing her walking around the house with nothing on except her high heels on. I have not tried the others though.
One quick question for all though. I have a real weakness for Romanian girls. I use to go to a coffee place in the 'Business Center' building next to Bur Juman called 'Class Mates' and there were a number of really hot Romanian girls in that place. The place closed down and the most of the girls left as they had no visa. I actually went out with one of them and she told me that the boss of the place use to sleep with them all. What a shame as they were all really hot! I see that Cyclone is getting more and more of these girls. But I am trying to find another place that is mainly filled with these Romanian girls. If anyone knows of such place, I would really appreciate if you could let me know.
Thanks guys
Hello there brothers,
I will be in Dubai in september. I need All the info I can get, The best chicks the best bars, Where to go to find the best russian PU$$Y money can buy. PM me with all the INFO you can. Where I am working right now I will need it trust me. Its hot hot HOT where I am you know what I mean. All the best Brothers. Tommy or e mail me [Email Address deleted by Admin]
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Thank you Jackson to upgarde my account and thus enabling me to write reports.
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I will not start my report asking silly question like "Does any one know where to find a girls for fun"
But I will ask if anyone know where to find the girls for free or cheap. Ask me (PM me) I have few directions for you guys.
Attached below is what I like doing. Have fun!
Member #1263, 07-11-04 10:07: I doubt if the service would have been A- type!.You never know until you try. All depends on if it's worth it to you to experience her.
By the way, anybody have any experience with the tall, slender chinese (wait, there's more), wears hiphuggers, FLAT stomach, small rack (yes, there IS more) and always seems to wear glitter around the eyes and on cheeks that I've been seeing at Cyclone? Looks nice, though perhaps expensive.
Back in DXB, went to my usual AMP, Monica. I've been there for quite some time as it is safe, clean, discreet, ideally located behind Bur J. I don't like waiting in queues, nor going to pubs/nightclubs.
Just give Monica a call, anytime, preferably in the afternoon. She tells me "yes" for now or "come later in 15 mn". At least, I'm sure the place will be available for me when I get there. This time I hesitated between 2 girls. Picked Angela. When in the room she told me, she didn't mind inviting Angela, as she guessed I stared at her a little bit too much. Well I ended up picking both, who were really good looking. The older one, Suzan, (28) had longer hair but a really friendly personality while the younger one, angela, (22) had less to say but was better looking. The older one had a nice arse. She gave a great BBBJ. They said that she loved BJs while the younger one liked to be in action. After a bit of BJ, started to "action" the younger one. I then jumped off the younger one and got a BBBJ from the older one. Time to recharge. We did it another time during 30mn. was impressed by the quality of service.
JustSumFun
07-11-04, 15:14
Sporadic
JSF:
If these "gents" actually just came by for a look-see, you have a legitimate reason to grumble. Very bad form.
I hope you know who they are, I would not like to innocently inflict them upon any providers I know.
A case of cold feet I could understand, but visiting a house to stare like an exhibit in a zoo is bad ju-ju.
I do know a couple of them. I was told their names and managed to locate the pms where I gave them the contact numbers. Felt pretty bad. But the harm is done. They have the contacts. Will let you know the ids so you can take due care.
Justfun
JustSumFun
07-11-04, 16:00
Hello friends,
There was a passing mention of the way the ladies take off their clothes once the formality of the financials is out of the way.
Most ladies will go into the bathroom and emerge completely naked, Some take the clothes off with as much finesse as a dentist removing a tooth "ouch". Very rarely do you come across someone who tantalises.
I have come across just one such girl. A small pixie of girl. She has a nice shape according to her height ofcourse. She is only 5'1" if I am not mistaken. Any taller and she would be too tall for me
Small perky tits. Lovely small waist, pony tail. Blonde, brunette, platinum blonde you take your chances here. She keeps changing her hair colour. The last time I met her she was dying her hair from brown to blonde. Made me wait half an hour and then realised I was getting restless so washed the dye off, leaving her hair orangish in color instead of the blonde hair she was aiming for.
This girl Ly ( oh no not again. Yeah you are damn right it is LY) works at F's place. She is a naughty, talkative and playful young girl. After the third time I went with her it so happened that the stereo was on a bit loud in the sitting room and she started swaying to the music and did a tantalising strip tease for me. She stood on the bed above me with her legs planted on each side of me and went through a slow lazy dance. Took a while to take off all the clothes and had me almost ready to grab her and do physical damage to her because of all the teasing. That was the state she got me into. To say it was arousing would be an understatement. I never mentioned earlier because it did not strike me as something which was interesting to other guys. But having read the lament of some friends on the forum I thought I would point them to this girl in case they would like to have first hand experience.
Since then if I am in the mood, and have the extra time, she does it for me. I asked her if she does it for anyone else. She said no. Why should she do it for others. Very few even bother to tip. Asked her if she would do it if someone promised her some amount if she did it for them. She said ofcourse she would. But she is definitely not doing it for free. A guy who books her for an hour, minimum, and promises to give her a nice tip would be given the show. No stingy guys for her.
It later came out that she was a professional stripper a couple of hundred years back in another country. She told me that she was afraid of the press there. Because they would take pictures and splash it on the newspapers and she was afraid her family back home would see her pictures and realise what she was upto. So she left that job and moved on. In the privacy of a hotel room or F's house she would be happy to do it provided she got something for it. Nothing for free. I like that. She is a working lady.
But all negotiations about the strip show should be done privately with her and not in front of the mama. She wont share what she gets extra for her strip show with mama.
Still thinking of the show she put up this afternoon during my nooner.
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Justfun
I was in Dubai in august of 2001 for a couple of days.Found one grossly undervalued 18 year old Irani who i would give no less then 8/10.Found her courtesy of this cab driver.Found one Uzbek girl in Imperial Suites and i kid you not,this 19 year old hair stylist from tashkent who had been in Dubai for 2 weeks,was 9 or 9.5/10.She charged me 500 but i would have given her 750,that how stunning she was and we really had a blast.
I would be visiting dubai from June 13th to 16th.I want to know where i should go to find ONLY and ONLY top quality women?I am interested only in Russian/CIS or Middle Eastern women and i would rather that everything be minimum of fuss.I would really appreciate if some one can guide me on this.Also let me know how much should i be paying for these girls.
King is Here, 07-11-04 15:28: I know the Romanian girls you are talking about. I was with the one with curly long hair a couple of weeks ago.Price paid, length of engagement?
Tucker, 07-11-04 15:55: I need All the info I can get, The best chicks the best bars,... PM me with all the INFO you can.Guess that hasn't been covered in the previous 111 pages.
Zilla, 07-11-04 16:27: I will not start my report asking silly question like "Does any one know where to find a girls for fun" But I will ask if anyone know where to find the girls for free or cheap.Sounds like the same question to me, just with a conditional phrase added. And, yes, freebies, they're all over; lot of girls don't come here to earn money, they just like the temperate climate while looking for "hansom man".
iqby, 07-11-04 20:41: I want to know where i should go to find ONLY and ONLY top quality women?Doesn't anybody read BEFORE posting anymore? 3 on the same page.
Hello gents,
I have yet to visit dubai after joining this lovely forum. Last time was there about 4 months back. I am hoping to be in Dubai around July 20th or so. I have my contacts as well as I love Cyclone to shop for my self.
Going thru the previous posts, I have to admit, three gentlemen really desrve a big salute, JSF, Sporadic, and the professor Bravo. I would love to meet u guys and treat you at York or any place you choose. The value given in your posts are priceless.
Keep up the good work and I Hope to meet with you soon.
The Bad Guy
07-12-04, 06:01
Well the new hotel Mina A salam has a lot of action.
Standing at the hotel door, you can see a lot of action out there.
Man. If you haven't been there you have missed half of your life.
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Hi Guys,
Well, nearly home! It's been interesting keeping up with happenings in DXB, although a lot of the same old posts keep coming up ("Can I have some contacts please?" - "No you cannot").
I've been tempted to try out some home-land talent, but way too expensive. I can afford it, but I keep thinking how much fun I can have in Dubai for the price of one short time here. Also, I've been too busy with family to use my good looks and charm to hunt for freebies ;) .
I've been doing a bit of internet research and communication with non-P4P girls in Dubai from here, and have managed to line up a couple of leads, including an Indian woman who wants a bit of fun on the side, so that sounds promising.
I just checked out the latest photo on these pages, then stepped outside the internet cafe for a minute. I must have double-clicked, because when I came back in, there was the photo glaring away on the screen (and there was a middle aged woman sitting nearby glaring at me!) Lucky it wasn't an action shot, and luckily I'm not easily embarrassed.
Jack S - interesting you mention Rock Bottom. It used to be non- P4P as far as I knew, but in recent months a few have been getting in, but playing it very low-key. One night I was there and who should come and say hello but an ex-regular of mine. Luckily my other half wasn't standing with me at the time (whew!) To this girl's credit, I know she timed it that way, as we'd had a bit of ("hey, remember me?") eye contact for over an hour beforehand.
Well, I've decided to check out a few new places in Dubai(including one straight from arriveal at the airport) so will keep you posted.
Meanwhile, JSF, I may be able to catch up with you on Sunday night at the Y if you're interested. Will keep in touch.
Bye for now
Piper
Had the pleasure of meeting some good members last night at York. Spotting report:
A stunning asian CIS: white crop top with very nice rack, white short mini with a most definite ass, and working girl boots with 4 inch platform soles, the outfit designed to draw maximum attention in the bar (and in any walk of shame); she would never pass unnoticed. I didn't even have to go over to her; she was standing right behind us. I turned around, said Hi, and asked where she was from (hey, works ON me). She turned her head, fixed me with an icy stare, and the temperature suddenly dropped 40 degrees. She didn't have to say a word; that look spoke volumes! Afterwards, had to check myself for frostbite. But not a problem; bottom line, saved me from wasting time and money; that, I appreciate.
A very attractive chinese. Very cute. Tried to make eye contact as she stood across the aisle, but kept failing. Finally, did, gave her a smile, got a BIG smile back, and over she came. For the life of me, I couldn't place her, so resorted to brute force "What is your name again?". Keith, you'll fall over laughing; it was YY. What a bonehead move on my part - I had forgotten about the 1/2 dozen photos of her in my pocket that I'd specifically brought to give to her if I saw her. Well, got that task out of the way. Again, what a sweet girl; sorry I had to work the next day; she is a fun, GFE time.
Walking out, passed chinese blondie. She and I had had a "difference of opinion" of what was fair value for money a long time ago. She's NEVER spoken to me since those failed negotiations, and will pull her friends away when they've been found talking to me. We made eye contact, and, sorry to say, I had to start laughing, thinking of her attitude compared with YY's (and many others). I'm sure THAT did nothing to improve her opinion of me, but it sure ended the evening on a merry note FOR ME.Pre/Post York: In walking to/from York, all the street action was on the Al Ain side, not Shoemart. Only saw chinese. On my way to York, 9pm, 4/5 girls down on Ramada corner, best looking maybe a 5; another girl along way to York. Obviously, early, so girls staying out of high traffic area. On my way back, 11pm, 5/6 girls strung out through parking lot, another 4 still down by Ramada (some definitely the same girls from 2 hours earlier). Crossing the street to MacDonalds, my mobile rang. No caller ID as number wasn't in my address book; it was some girl asking if I was on my way to eat. WTF? Street girl from Al Ain had seen me; in the dark and with distance, couldn't see who; couldn't match a face with the name she gave; just saw her waving from across the street. Man, I HAVE to be more careful about my mobile number.
Farhankhan
07-12-04, 15:15
Anyone been to York Saturday night? I saw this HOT, CIS girl, around 25 years old, long black hair, red lip sticks, red tops (kinda leather) and super mini white skirts.
I saw her entering with another girl (normal looking)...she went straight to the dance floor. As expected, many guys were trying to dance with her, and some of them tried to atleast touch/feel her (or her but) in the crowd. I tried to approach, but I seemd to have competition from other guys. She was there in the club for a short time, maybe around 15-20 mins I guess. Then suddenly she was not to be seen. Maybe she went to another club or with a customer.
Anyone been to York last night or some other club spotted a girl like this? 11 Bravo, I dont think we are both talking about the same girl. Cause the girl I saw had white minis and the girl you mentioned had red minis right?
Regards,
Farhan
Farhankhan
07-12-04, 15:24
It seems like the girls and madams have started new marketing technique. The new method seems to be Mass Text Messaging.
Last week I had an sms from a number I didn't know or store, which read : ' Hi ! I have new girls. Please come and visit.' I immediately called this number and asked who it is. She was a madam running a chinese mp near hyatt regency but didn't even know whom I was. I asked her how she got my mobile number and she gave a vague answer like some other girl gave it. This meant that she was sending to messages to anybody whom she got the mobile numbers somehow.
I was quite concerned about this sms. Cause certainly I did not like the idea of my mobile number being given to different people. I mean, I had never visited to talked to this girl and here she is sending marketing sms to me. It seems it is not only the guys, but also the girls exchanging contact information.
Farhan
Hi Mates,
Was out of town for a couple of days and work pressure had reduced my P4P activity to barest minimum.
Ended up at york last night with a couple of Members. Was great hanging out although was kind of tired as had to catch the early morning flight so think my mood was more of sordid than anything. Was actually cursing myself after seeing the beauties and realising could not do a thing! Damn the weekdays.
Great meeting JSF after a long time along with Bravo and Everready.
Saw a couple of beauties and pointed out to JSF a number on my A-List of doables. Well Thursday night will be out prowling for some action!
Cheers mates.
PS: JSF the red and blue jeans still giving me a night mare!
JustSumFun
07-12-04, 18:29
Last night went over to the York to hook up with Ever REady. Sent a pm to 11Bravo and Me Crazy to join us if they were not doing anything special. They both showed up. Thanks guys.
I reached there around 9 pm. Just before 9 to be exact. Went and grabbed a table. A young African waitress came over and asked me my poison. told her I was waiting for a friend or two or three and would order as soon as at least one fo them arrived. She told me to call my friend and ask him where he was. Man!!!. She had a naughty glint in her eye. Well a few minutes another waitress approached. Same answer and she went off in a huff. After about 10 minutes started feeling lonley so beckoned the first waitress (liked her attitude) and asked her to hit me with a Fosters pint.
A CIS approached me and asked me if i was looking for a lady. Told her frankly that I wasn't. She was very pretty but was carrying some excess baggage. A bit chubby if you will. She went off with a smile. Then a couple of minutes later came back and asked me for a tenner. Man word must be getting around. I hve twice given some money to another cute young CIS before just because she asked for it. Not a lot just a couple of bucks or so. Anyway gave this girl a tenner and she gave me a smile which nearly floored me. But I was not in the hunt and she was a bit too chubby for my taste. Hope she doesn't aks for a fifty the next time.
My waitress arrived with my drink and I told her to look out for my friend. Gave her a sketchy description, which turned out to be pretty accurate in hindsight. She went around the bar and came back to report a lack of sighting. A couple of minutes later the door openend and there EverReady was. Recognised him immediately and waved to him. He came over and sat down. And my waitress pounced on him " I found you " ;) I did mentione she had a nice attitude didn't I. Very sweet young thing.
We introduced each other and were just getting into the flow of things when Bravo called and asked if I was inside. Tolod him I was and he came up. Then Me Crazy arrived and the party was complete.
Wonder why someone called York a crappy place in one of the recent posts. The place was filled with some really good lookers. I got a crick in my neck turning around every time Me Crazy nudged me. Some of them were abslutely doable. A couple could be termed as stunners. The chinese in white mini with legs that wouldn't stop and a CIS in a mini with equally long legs were really sight for sore eyes. Finally got a glimpse of YY. Must pay her a visit soon.
Special thanks to Ever Ready for the drinks and great company. Hope we do it sometime again soon. There is some bad news which I will give you on the pm.
MeCrazy it was nice of you to join us. Hope your trip today was good. Perhaps we can hook up on thursday?
11Bravo it was great to see you as usual.
Must say York does come upto expectations once in a while. It was the first time in a long while that I stayed till 11 pm. Usually, during the last two months, I was in there more or less for just a quick drink before heading for action at the CIS house. But with good company it was not a hardship staying there till 11 pm. And I did not even feel that I was missing out on something by not going over. And the eyecandy was worth it.
Justfun
I have just come back to Dubai after a few months and had got rather used to FZ place, I have just had a PM from JSF that the place was raided last night and the girls are to be deported.
If true and I have no reason to doubt JSF then this is a sad day for Dubai as this was the best place I know of anywhere!!
If any of you guys do get details just in case FZ finds a way to talk herself out of this then please let me know.
I am now on the look out for another good place I really do not like change but never mind could one you guys please help!
Thanks
P man
Farhankhan
07-13-04, 06:49
Guys,
A very bad news. Actually a shocking bad news.
The place everybody talks about, actually I guess one of the best CIS house in Town, the 'F' House in Bur Dubai (near Bur Juman), has been raided! The girls are in police lock-up at the moment.
So guys, please stay away from calling or visiting this house or the girls! Please pass this information to your other punter friends.
It is very sad because i guess the house was a favourite for many and serviced quite a lot of dubai punters as well as travellers. I heard that no punter was in the house at the time of the raid. Well, guess all good things must come to an end.
Regards
Farhan
Nice Guy 99
07-13-04, 10:17
Wow that's terrible news that P Man posts about F's. I know F was always worried about people being discrete and, in particular, not being noisy when arriving and departing. I wonder if the neighbors complained?
Hi people,
Just some advice, CIS houses are getting really pathetic now, full of guyz that come, have a look and a fight with the ladies and leave. Always get contacts so you can ask the lady you want about the place, if shes busy or not, etc.
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JustSumFun
07-13-04, 13:16
Some very sad news guys. A couple of days back F's place was raided and all the ladies taken into custody. It was an obvious tip off. Or perhaps someone was indiscrete. Be that as it may. One of the best places in Dubai, perhaps the best service providers, in my opinion, are gone forever. Sad day indeed.
I will never be comfortable passing out contacts anymore. The contacts can fall into wrong hands without anyone being the wiser. Someone who got this particular contact from me, and used it for months then, decided that the ladies were boring so, in a bid to get some hot new contacts from others, posted this contact number on an open Yahoo forum. Well who knows who saw that post and noted the contact details down? This could be a result of just some such action. Thanks buddy.
Be that as it may we lost one excellent place. Pretty selfish I know. But what of the ladies? What of Ly, T, I, etc,. they lost their livelihood. I will never forget any of them. Especially Ly who had presumed to take L's place in my psyche, she was so good.
Justfun
Hi every one, my name is Teefy, and have just joined the forum,
I live in Dubai, and must say, theres no place like it. would like to meet the fellow members for a drink some time, should be fun.
During the euro finals, me and some mates rented an appartment to watch the match, and get some totty over. most of my mates are married, so this was a great alibi.
We negotiated with the girls, paid about 800dhs each for 4 hours. incase of extra time. Any way, during my session with one of the girls I was with, decided to stop half way. (I don't wish that on any one, just not on). I asked her why, and she said she was upset because her team lost. My response is: You not hear to watch the footy. This made things worse. To be contd.
I would like to just add my .2 cents - I doubt in my mind that anyone would have posted a number, knowing that it might get the girls into trouble, unless someone wanted some kind of revenge.
The police in any country are not stupid, are not blind and have
sophisticated intelligence be it by word of mouth and electronic, and if there is any kind of action going on you can bet your cotton socks that they will know about it eventually. (Everybody eventually knows about everything.) I would assume even more so in a Muslim country. The raid might have also been to pacify the politicians or other elements in the government, who knows.
Being quite a new member here I am currently loathe to list details of who, what and where due to vigorous action taken by the law makers. I assume ( and I stand to be corrected) that when everything quietens down then there will be new faces in town. I am sure there will be more than decent left overs to hold you over.
Cheers
Ever Ready
07-13-04, 14:42
Good Evening Readers…
Met up with JSF, 11Bravo and Me Crazy last Sunday night. This was our first meeting, although it felt like I “semi” knew them from the many excellent and varied reports they regularly submit. Anyway it was good to meet at the Yorkie and share a glass or two of mango juice. Thanks guys for the nice evening.
Some nice ladies, some faces I knew, and as usual a few new ones. Enough to get the imaginative juices flowing!
I hear from JSF that one of his favourite haunts has been busted big time. Shame for the girls involved. I hope JSF soon finds an alternative outlet for his ample supply of liquid protein – or he’ll be “doing what his right arm’s for” as the saying goes.
I recently took a trip to darkest Diera to see a nice looking African I’d met a few times in the bar. Unfortunately, this was a complete disaster and waste of money. Shit! She had promised so much when we chatted, but dismally failed to perform.
She assured me she lived on her own, but I got there to find 3 enormous African ladies lounging around in her room. We went into her bedroom, but I could hear the other ladies chatting the other side of the door all the time - most off putting.
She had promised BJ – but now she didn't want to. I barely got inside her lips, but there was no sucking, no movement at all. By this time I was pretty pissed off, and the little chap just gave up trying!!! She tried for ages to revive him, but her HJ technique was just appalling! – Uncomfortable, bordering on painful. The more she tried, the more poor thing shrunk away to hide.
I really should have given up and left, but like a true Brit, stiff upper lip etc, (that’s all that was stiff!!!) I didn’t want to give up. Somehow in the end I got half a hard-on, on with the raincoat, stuck it in quick, shagged furiously for about 60 seconds, shot off, whipped it out, tugged off the raincoat, got dressed, paid up and left. Never again! Ugh!!! Oh well, we live and learn.
Back to the Orient Express for me next time…
ER
Damn man just when I was planning to take I out for a full nighter this weekend.
Also to make matters worse had just began to like F's house. Had the contact for some time but did not like it the first time was there. Recently JSF used to drag me there as his wife was out of town on Sunday or Thursday night.
Hats off to T, I, V, S, Ly and the rest of the girls.
"F" was my favourite place with a strong, enjoyable "black sea touch". Learnt quite a few words of Russian thanks to them.
Lets face it : the place was becoming uncomfortable, with too many people coming in and out, some of them rather noisy and coming in groups. Only afternoons were somewhat quieter. Let's stop giving out such valuable contact details on the net. It ends up being bad for us and for the girls.
Will miss most of them all : N, V, L...
The Bad Guy
07-13-04, 16:48
Its a pitty to loose all the good contacts. They where my neighbours.
Farhankhan, 07-12-04 18:24: Cause certainly I did not like the idea of my mobile number being given to different people. I mean, I had never visited to talked to this girl and here she is sending marketing sms to me.Just using your post as a teaching tool, to make a point; this is not directed at you.
FUNNY WHEN THE SHOE'S ON THE OTHER FOOT!!! I'm laughing out loud. Here, a member is concerned that his number is passed around, WITHOUT his consent. So what's the difference between this and passing along a contact to someone you barely know, probably have never met? There was one thread where the statement was "hey, it's just business, and sharing contacts is good for business". So, isn't sharing clients' numbers good for business, too? Won't this help the ladies make more money, live long, prosper? (I added the last 2, having just come from the tv).
One thing to pass along a contact to someone you know (and trust). Another to pass it along to someone who posts "I'm new, need contacts", or sends you one of the "hey, have read all your posts, could you please help me out with some contacts". Sorry if I step on any toes, but just because we both post to the same forum doesn't mean all that much to me. It's what's in the posts that are important. You are known by what you post (or don't for that matter).
So, for all those members who feel that they deserve to get contacts, pm me your mobile, and I'll pass it out while I'm out and about.
JustSumFun, 07-13-04 16:16: The contacts can fall into wrong hands without anyone being the wiser. Someone who got this particular contact from me, and used it for months then, decided that the ladies were boring so, in a bid to get some hot new contacts from others, posted this contact number on an open Yahoo forum. Well who knows who saw that post and noted the contact details down? This could be a result of just some such action. Thanks buddy.Not saying that this un-named individual is the cause, but... who would be so stupid as to post a number on an open forum? To get new contacts for himself? How selfish is that? Obviously has no concept of the "common good". Well, that doesn't surprise me, that concept being very lacking in this part of the world.
In the first post cited above, the member is concerned that his number was passed around. How would this fool like his mobile number to be posted on an open forum? I think you are too kind, JSF. I think he should be outted!! If he posts numbers in the clear, then why should he be bashful about being named in the clear?
Again, not saying that post caused the raid. But it just really irks me that anyone would do that, and let's be honest here, it wasn't to benefit others, but for himself. Something I learned when a child: when something is given to you, you don't appreciate it as much as when you have to work to earn it. Nothings changed. You get something for nothing; hey, what's the value? Easy to pass on without considering consequences. Think no lurkers read this forum? Other forums? Check the counts over in the photo gallery. Or consider Hamoody's post (07-13-04 15:45):
CIS houses are getting really pathetic now, full of guyz that come, have a look and a fight with the ladies and leave. Gee, you think there might have been some payback? Neighbors who didn't like the commotion? LE might turn a blind eye, but difficult to do when someone makes a formal complaint.
So, the girls are gone; this life over. End of story? Maybe no. It could follow them back home. BS, you say? Consider this: they get a deported stamp in their passport, and get deported. On arrival back home, isn't your passport checked by immigration? Might not a "Deported", or "Banned" stamp in your passport raise questions with officials back home? Don't think THEY don't know what goes on here. With that stamp, fairly obvious you were doing something you shouldn't have been doing... And let's face it, these girls are NOT coming from 1st world countries where police corruption is minimal. I know girls who stick a $100 USD in their passport (and it's clean) to minimize questions from immigration when returning home from here. And with eye scans now implemented; these girls will NEVER return. So what, you say, plenty more around (I had actually written the previous line, and sure enough, when I went to post, there was the sentiment already). Yea, right; empathy is in short supply these days.
Teefy, 07-13-04 16:33: Any way, during my session with one of the girls I was with, decided to stop half way. (I don't wish that on any one, just not on). I asked her why, and she said she was upset because her team lost. My response is: You not hear to watch the footy. This made things worse.Gee, do you think? Big surprise with your caring attitude. Like I was saying about empathy...
F’s Girls,
Arrived in Dubai today after 3 months away from this station, called up one of girls and heard the news! Became too upset to learn this bad news, checked the forum and read the report of same by JSF. Really a sad day, these girls are in big problems now, they are going to be deported to their countries in case they can pay for their flight after sometimes being in jail!
It has been really a sad day, coming back after 3 months and hearing this news. You can’t imagine how much its tough situation for ladies at custody. Some of them even don’t have money for return ticket and has to sit in custody for unknown time!
There is a member who is based in Canada and frequent visitor to this area. He is close and good friend to (I), I is waiting for him before deporting to country in case he is in the area now. She from custody has tried to send message to him but she is not sure if he has already received her message or not. I’ve been asked by her to leave message in forum for same, may he is informed from here first.
JSF, I agree with your comments with respect to contacts at wrong hands that don’t care to subsequence of what they do! I think we have to think for an effective corrective action in order to preventing of happening the same in future.
JustSumFun
07-13-04, 18:56
11bravo
not saying that this un-named individual is the cause, but... who would be so stupid as to post a number on an open forum? to get new contacts for himself? how selfish is that? obviously has no concept of the "common good". well, that doesn't surprise me, that concept being very lacking in this part of the world.agreed. it could be any of a dozen reasons why the raid took place. not necessarily because he posted the number on an open yahoo group. but it just goes to show how careless people are. this member did apologise to me when i sent him a rep001hing email. but the damage was done. at that time i called up f and told her someone had posted her number on the group. she took precautions and anyone who called was given the cold shoulder. but the number was out there floating. so anyone could have got hold of it.
there is another friend from the same yahoo group, also a member of this forum now, who asked me what is the harm posting numbers on the group. after all that is the charter of the group. to share. i tried to explain to him that it is different to share the number with some one you see face to face some one you know.. but posting on the group for all and sundry. now that is totally stupid. he understood and since then he has been discreet. i hope my dear friend from canada, who once posted a contact, not f's contact, but another one that i gave him, on this forum does not feel that my post is directed at him. it is not. he realised his mistake, when i sent him a email immediately, and quickly asked jackson to have the number removed from his post. so the damage was minimised. again i called the lady concerned and told her to watch out. no one without references got through to her.
i guess it may seem trivial to some of people out there. but to me... i lost something very dear to me. it will never be the same again. i feel sorry for the ladies. i hope their return home is not as painful as bravo thinks. but in my heart i feel that it will be even worse than what he feels it will be like.
justfun
justsumfun, 07-13-04 21:56: this member did apologise to me when i sent him a rep001hing email.oh, well that set it right. so he's square with you; how about the girl(s)? sorry, i don't condone this at all.
don't mean to sound melodramatic, but it is people's lives. don't think so? turn it around. suddenly your name and number, maybe even a photo, gets posted on the forum. somebody sees. that mobile seems familiar. forget trying to hide behind the "how did you see it". gets reported to your boss. ever heard of moral turpitude as grounds for dismissal? think your company wants someone who patronizes sw's representing their company? or consider what would happen if you just happened to get caught with a lady, not your spouse, in your hotel room because some other guest complained to management. put that in your trip report?
it's p4p basics: be discreet. again, how would you explain if you were caught up in the raid? the butt you save may be your own.
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everready: with all the stirings over a popular bust, didn't get a chance to say pleasure meeting you, and thanks again for the drink. but what did i say about "easy to say"... false advertising does seem to be a strong forte for the african ladies.
Ever Ready
07-13-04, 21:46
Hey 11Bravo,
Great to meet you also.
I should be going to the Seaview on Thursday evening.
I'll be there with the flipper gf circa 10 or 11 onwards
Maybe see you there?
Cheers ER
House Raid
Whatever the cause may have been, it is damn shame.
Not because we will miss some of the ladies and service, but because these ladies are going to have to pay the piper, big time.
It is worth remembering that these are people, not just providers we are lamenting here. 11Bravo pointed out several scenarios that could come to pass, none of them very pleasant. F was more like a friend than anything else, and it pains me to think of her and the rest behind bars. Yes they knew the score, as do we all. They took a calculated risk; and lost.
I hope we can all learn a "lesson in discretion" here. While it might be all fun and games to us, there can be consequences. Serious consequences.
S
Dxb Person
07-14-04, 10:01
So I guess we have all learned from this. Let's move on.
I heard so much about TGIT and went there last night around midnight. The place was closing but was told that upstairs (what use to be Panchos) is a disco and lots of people are in there. So I went in and was dissapointed with what I saw. Lots of 2s and 3s ... very few I would consider a 6 but they were sitting the far side of the bar by themselves. This is a place where anyone and everyone can easily get laid for around 200 LT. Maximum they would go for is 300 LT. I stayed around the place having a coke and just looking at the action. I was making eye contacts with a decent looking Uzbek girl called S and started chatting with her. But then I saw another Uzbek that attracted me even more and managed to sneak out with her. She took me to her place in the area around Ascot Hotel. Lots of ladies just walking around there and hanging under their buildings.
She did everthing I wanted but made sure I had my raincoat for everything including the BJ ... not very appealing environment. I did not want to stay full night as the place was too dodgy and paid half and left.
If you ever pick up anyway from Panchos, it is likely that they live in this area if you go with them to their place. So take them for ST and not LT. Not worth it. You will also have a really difficult time finding the right woman.
Hi guys,
Sorry to hear about the house raid, but, with all empathy, it was inevitable. I'd be very surprised if CID weren't aware of the place for a long time, as they are with most places. Maybe it was becoming too high-profile. I do feel sorry for the girls, but they know the risks. Someone who sounds as experienced as F will know how to get them out of this trouble, but it won't be cheap.
Yes, I saw the open post on another forum listing various contact numbers. It looked like the list of numbers was supposed to be a PM but carelessly posted openly. This was done by a member of this forum - some of you will know who it is. Not unrelatedly, I was scratching my head when a certain member complained of his phone number being circulated. Get the message?
I also saw F's mobile number on the same forum - maybe that was the death knell.
Well, back in town again - I zipped from the airport very late last night to an old haunt, but it was absolutely dead quiet - nothing at all! Had a beer and watched a terrible band for 10 minutes, then went to a nearby Indian girly dancy thing, then off home to recharge the jetlagged body.
Again, having PM problems but I'll pop into the Y for a while tonight; then, who knows.
Bye for now
Piper
JustSumFun
07-14-04, 11:31
11Bravo
Oh, well that set it right. So he's square with you; how about the girl(s)? Sorry, I don't condone this at all.I respect your sentiment mate. The outrage I felt at the time is similar to what I can feel in this one sentence of yours. But what else could I have done at that time. I warned the provider about what had happened. I told her the name of the person. I know that may not have been enough but there are limits to what I can do.
Zaya25
JSF, I agree with your comments with respect to contacts at wrong hands that don’t care to subsequence of what they do! I think we have to think for an effective corrective action in order to preventing of happening the same in future.I have been racking my brains for a fail safe method in which members can share the contact information. The only one that seems safe enough is to meet members, who request the numbers, face to face. Talk with them and get to know them before passing out the contact. I do that as far as possible. But it is not humanly possible for me to do so all the time. I use my judgement. Being human I do make an error with someone.
I agree with Bravo. We cannot condone any stupid acts. But we are not here to penalise someone for a stupid act on a selfish impulse. All we can do is try and minimise damage by reporting on the forum that such a thing has happened. I know it is like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. Posting the id of such a member would serve no purpose. If he wants to he can just register under a new id and carry on merrily. The only purpose it would serve is to make that exposed id undesirable. Nothing else.
We do our best with best intentions. It is very difficult to identify which one of us is really responsible for what happened. I feel to some extent I was. For giving out contacts. Perhaps some of the others too are responsible for passing on these same contacts that they got from me.
Now that there is no contact left that danger is past. No one will get the contact from me.
Justfun
Nice Guy 99
07-14-04, 12:38
JSF,
We do our best with best intentions. It is very difficult to identify which one of us is really responsible for what happened. I feel to some extent I was. For giving out contacts. Perhaps some of the others too are responsible for passing on these same contacts that they got from me.Please don't blame yourself. We all know that your heart is pure and you feel a real empathy for the ladies. The picture in my mind of F and N languishing in a Dubai prison awaiting deportation just wrenches my heart.
I wish there were something we could do to help them. If there is don't hesitate to give me a call on my mobile.
Nice Guy 99
07-14-04, 12:43
JSF,
We do our best with best intentions. It is very difficult to identify which one of us is really responsible for what happened. I feel to some extent I was. For giving out contacts. Perhaps some of the others too are responsible for passing on these same contacts that they got from me.Please don't blame yourself. We all know that your heart is pure and you feel a real empathy for the ladies. The picture in my mind of F and N languishing in a Dubai prison awaiting deportation just wrenches my heart.
I wish there were something we could do to help them. If there is don't hesitate to give me a call on my mobile.
JSF: You know I have the highest respect for you; not blaming you for what happened. Given the security breach, I think you did all you could to contain.
See your point about naming names. Yes, he could just re-register. But right now, he is safe as he is and none are the wiser.
I think you have the correct idea about fulling vetting members who do ask for contacts. We should all remember the old saying: an ounce of prevention...
Dany75, 07-13-04 19:34: the place was becoming uncomfortable, with too many people coming in and out, some of them rather noisy and coming in groups. discreet, Discreet, DISCREET. Too much traffic guaranteed to cause neighbors to complain, attract unwanted attention.
Zaya 25, 07-13-04 21:40: Really a sad day, these girls are in big problems now, they are going to be deported to their countries in case they can pay for their flight after sometimes being in jail! ... Some of them even don’t have money for return ticket and has to sit in custody for unknown time!This is a true statement. When you are deported, YOU pay for your own ticket (popular misconception is that the govt. does). No, govt doesn't. And if you don't have money to pay, you sit in jail until somehow you find the money to pay for your ticket (better have friends still on the outside).
As Sporadic said, we are talking about people here. Yes, more girls will arrive to replace them, life will go on for us, but for these human beings, they are in deep kimchee now. For some of us, they are friends.
Travel Fool
07-14-04, 14:15
I was just approved for regular membership, so this is my first post. I am sad to see all of the bad reports on the contacts, but I wasn't going to ask for any anyway, given my new status and not being vetted.
I am in Iraq and getting ready to go on R&R to Spain, w/ a stopover in Dubai on SUN 25JUL for the evening. Would anyone like to meet? I have read the posts so I know all about the Cyclone, but my question is, if you had only one night and you wanted a definite score, where is the place to go? I will arrive around 1600 and leave early the next morning. I am not sure what hotel the company is putting me in so it would be best if I could go back with the girl to her place. Is this safe? I guess anything is safer than Mosul, Iraq - except Baghdad! It looks like around $300-500 AED for a few hours is the norm? I like thin girls of any type. I am not picky - would like to try a CIS, maybe two at once.
Any advice would be helpful. Once again, sorry for the recent happenings.
I have a stop for a night in Baghdad and there is some rumors about the Baghdad Hotel and the Al Khaleed which I will attempt to verify, but I don't recommend coming here for action anyway. Just thought I would throw that in in the end.
Travel Fool
The Bad Guy
07-14-04, 14:27
Met 2 local ladies at the Chilis Jumeirah. They were making all eye contact and smiles. Then went up to them and sat with them.
Later they took me in their car, and the car was fully tinted. Had a good time with one of them in the car.
Well I was lucky that day.
Enjoyed all of it.
Will meet them up again
Hello,
Just landed. Can some one please let me know where to find action? Any contacts? I have been over the forums, but some things are outdated, some houses raided, don't know where to start, your help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You,
Ayaz
Dxb Person
07-14-04, 15:38
This forum is not blocked by the proxy in UAE. The forum is also not blocked in places like Kuwait where I just came from and was able to access it easily from my hotel room.
This should tell something to all of us. The site is being monitored by people and once in a while will act on information gathered from here. There is no doubt of this. So yes, be discreet with the information you have and take precautions.
Just wanted to put my two cents in this matter.
Travel Fool, 07-14-04 17:15: I have read the posts so I know all about the Cyclone, but my question is, if you had only one night and you wanted a definite score, where is the place to go? I will arrive around 1600 and leave early the next morning.For me, Cyclone is THE place. But the important question is: What time is early next morning? 1am, 2am, 5am? Makes a difference. Cyclone doesn't get going till 22:00, earliest. Same for York, Imperial. TGIT afternoons end at 16:00 (yes, reopen at 18:00, but, for me, not worth it). So take your departure time, and work backwards; you can sleep in Spain.
A lot of the a-list girls from Cyclone can accomodate an engagement at their place. Only thing unsafe: don't look too bug-eyed; too eager. The ladies can sense that a mile off, and are adept at extracting maximum payment. Never say you're just passing through for one night. Otherwise, crime rate here is VERY LOW, just exercise common sense as you would in any large city (and this is one of the safest large cities I've ever known). With the ladies, I've never had any problem, but I also don't leave temptation laying around either. Be discreet; drink inside the bar or hotel. Public drunkeness not tolerated (not saying you would).
For early evening action (18:00-20:00), you might try TGIT, but expect to be disappointed. Some girls will drop in on their way to other venues. I'd grab a good dinner (plenty of fantastic restaurants around, but not cheap), relax, shower, and, if not too early morning departure, head to Cyclone.
One last thing: don't let your company BS you about it being dangerous here (I know other forum members rolling with laughter). But did have some guys arriving from US, headed towards your part of the world, in front of me in immigration recently. They had been told not to talk to anybody (as if I couldn't tell where they were from), go straight to the hotel, and stay inside as it was dangerous outside. Think the only danger would be they would be having too much fun to make the flight north.
Shady22, 07-14-04 17:32: Just landed. Can some one please let me know where to find action? Any contacts? I have been over the forums, but some things are outdated, some houses raided, don't know where to start, your help would be greatly appreciated.Don't know where to start? Well, would suggest that you don't start reading from the last page forward as those back pages are outdated. But even 30 pages back, it's only 1 May 2004, so would think there might be some answers to your questions in these last 30 pages as to where to find action without it being outdated (there is more than 1 place to find action here) . As to contacts... I'm sure you've followed the leanings over the last 2 days.
Why the nice reply to Travel Fool, abrupt to Shady22? Has NO bearing on where the post originated. But at least TF gave the impression he had read and understood something. He asked some specific questions. But asking general questions as where is the action?; you have to do a little bit of outside reading before coming to the P4p 101 seminar.
Piper1: Very nicely put; I can read between the lines. Amazing indeed.
Travel Fool
07-15-04, 05:24
11B,
Thanks for the response. My flight leaves at 0830 the next morning so I will make the most of it and sleep the next day on the plane. I will cut to the chase and head to the Cyclone and then play it by ear.
My company actually promotes UAE and Dubai as a vacation spot and pays for the ticket there - anything beyond is the responsibility of the employee. After being here and in Jordan, I just want to get out of the Middle East for a while!
Travel Fool
I thought I would share this very recent experience with you lot.
Spotted a group of Filipinos in a bar in central Dubai and decided to approach them. I soon learnt that 3 of the 4 were engaged to be married and the 4th was a very very exotic looking girl, tall with a stunning, albeit slightly too slim figure. Fantastic cats eyes on her. All were quickly getting very drunk on blue cocktails and white wine and as the evening progressed I fell into a deep conversation with the tall girl and things looked rosy for a casual fling. At several points I tried to stop them drinking so much because they were seriously getting rowdy. But...come closing time the girls where absolutely legless and me and the bouncers had to hold them upright getting them out of the place and into my car, 3 in the back and my favourite in the front seat. As I drove away she fell with her head in my lap as if to go to sleep but soon pulled and groped for my ****, taking it out and giving a very wet bj. The other girls in the back were fairly ok with this but shocked, as I was to be honest, judging by all the heads being poked around the car seats, but they soon got into the swing of things with gentle slaps/caresses on her back/head along with a chorus of 'he's a lucky fellow' or something like that. As we pulled over Al-Maktumn bridge she raised her head, give some directions before continuing with her business. This was repeated several times, which was a great turn on, before getting to their destination.
Walking to the flat I had to carry the shortest one out of the car (where I had noticed she had vomited) and up to the apartment. What a stinky dive! Anyway the 3 went in and disappeared whilst the other one laid me down in the emergency stairwell and carried on her task in a very aggressive and plain dirty (spoken) manner, continually staring at my face when possible. I came and she spat it out down the stairs, stood up and walked away. As she reached the floor above she turned and said 'Ask me why I did this to you'. 'Why?'..'Because you are such a f******* nice guy'. I guess she right on that one. Lost my mobile phone that night though complete with her number. Nevermind I don't think she would have had Aunt Janes approval in any case. Btw, she is a regular of Jimmy Dix's or so she says.
Sorry if I had upset anyone about my comments about York. I have only been there once but that night late after 0100, it was awful. Must go there again earlier in the night.
Rayman, 07-15-04 13:01: As I drove away she fell with her head in my lap as if to go to sleep but soon pulled and groped for my ****, taking it out and giving a very wet bj. ... Walking to the flat I had to carry the shortest one out of the car (where I had noticed she had vomited) ... Lost my mobile phone that night ...Maybe it just goes to show there is no such thing as a freebie; you pay one way or the other. :)
Rayman - I liked the line about all the heads popping around in the car - funny (or is it just me, still jetlagged). Great report!
Lazy last night, so I went o old faithful York instead of exploring. Tried to get a really cute CIS , but she was already booked and waiting for her guy. Pity. Next time maybe.
It was closing time, and the ugly lights came on, so I had to make a move. I ended up going back to an African girl's apartment with the intention of a ST - I've chatted and joked with her many times over a couple of years. She has a cute face, great butt and friendly personality, but for some reason my instincts have usually told me not to take her. When we got to her place, she took a couple of calls, then told me we would have to hurry as she had another customer waiting. I asked her how quick, and she said 10-15 minutes. I said whoa - at least an hour. She said no, so I said bye bye. Again, my initial instincts were correct.
Well after 3am and still in the mood for fun. I had tried to call the tall African honey (Lilli) I posted about a few weeks ago, but sounded like a Chinese madam, and she said I would have to go to Deira to see her. Then I called a regular from a couple of years ago - one of my favorites. She arrived in 15 minutes, we chatted a bit and off we went. Nothing to write home about, but still a nice end to a very long night, into the dawn
Travel Fool: Then you will have plenty of time. Can understand your sentiments, but once you've been here, well, I think you will not be paying out of pocket again (well, at least not for air fare - probably guess your company is NOT that broadminded).
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>>Recently JSF used to drag me there as his wife was out of town on Sunday or Thursday night.<<
Me Crazy: No offense, but this kind of personal information should not be posted publicly on the board, IMHO. It would be too easy for an SO or a greedy D lawyer to identify somebody if they wanted to.
Captain Fire
07-16-04, 00:17
Hi Gents
Its been awhile since I've posted here. Most of my locales do not allow me acees to the forum. I am just sick about what has happened with the ladies at the house. One is especially close to me and I am trying to find out hopw much it will cost to at least get her out of trouble without deportation. It may be foolish considering the girls occupation and the fact that they may just leave the country, but it has been my experience that these are not the normal hooker types you find in North America and Europe, but simply girls forced by circumstance to provide for their families as best they can. I admire some for their courage in leaving children and home to help provide for a better future. Girls like F, I, Ve, Al and ac lot more have provided a lot of great company and friendship in addition to the bedroom. If any of you can heklp in any way, perhaps get ahold of the king, JSF and maybe he has some ideas of what we can do. I know I have been guilty in the past of sharing contacts wityh those who turned out to be a little south of north. It definitely will not happen again. I ask everyone with respect to see if there is anything any of us can dop to help out these ladies
The Captain
Thanks for the support and comments.
Freebies is just another word for casual sex...and that works both ways nowadays. Dubai is full of it. ...but remember full body armour everytime as the girls play the game far worse than we do.
Heard a distressing tale the other day about a unmarried girl who got pregnant during the run of her employment contract. She was flogged 3 times and deported back to Manilla; but happy not to have a forced abortion. She wouldn't give up the fathers name.
I should add that the definition of a 'freebie', in the context of this forum, is a working girl/pro who gives it to you for free (for whatever reason) and not just picking up a lass in the Supermarket - surely that should be called romance that leads to casual sex and who knows....marriage and those lovely kids.....
Sorry..Jimmy Dixs is opposite the American Hospital (near Cylone) in the Movenpick (??) hotel. Cover charge of 100dirhams when late...I get in there early...cheapo that I am. Pick up Time Out magazine for full directions.
Was up at Cyclone Wed. night between 22:00 and 24:00. Man, was I depressed with what I was seeing, really depressed with night's selection.
I figured that even if I pulled a chinese-a-week for the rest of the year, just from the selection there those 2 hours, I still wouldn't have enough time to experience all the good looking ones! I think I have a small case of whiplash; head turns right, tracks a passing one, then suddenly, snaps to the left, tracking another. There was just one after the other after the other. And the amazing thing - most of the familiar a-lists were not present.
Now, I really don't pull from the chinese a-list table, but they do serve one purpose: they are a good indicator of how business is. If it's slow, then a few will stop by for a minute or two to say hi and solicit an offer, even though they know it's unlikely. After all, what do they have to lose, and it does pass the time. But if it's busy, then no time for clutter. (Others at that table won't talk to me, we having had our differences about what is a fair price or not).
Saw one new a-list I had spoken with last week (800 firm, not start, price); as she passed, gave me a nod and a smile. Contrary to some other posts inferring otherwise, I claim NO royal bloodlines; I'm the first to say I'm a minor league player. Big deal? Class! Acknowledged me, without wasting either of our time on something that would not bear fruit (at least this night - for both of us, with our own perspectives, business was good). But with this 1 nod and smile rather than the blank stare past you, think I might have to break my price ceiling. Another first time vision had a cute face, and hair down past the bottom of her ass. Think even longer than Aida. Saw some familiar faces, as usual (-1, Sporadic, same as last week).
So many possiblilities, so little time. Wednesday night was perfect demonstration of why Cyclone is number 1.
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Thursday, had pleasure of meeting member at TGIT. Demonstrated my dexterity by spilling half his beer; just goes to show, can't take me out in public. Was there from 14:00 - 16:00. Reasonable selection, lot of chinese. Recognized at least 1 face from Cyclone. As I was drained from Wednesday night, not really interested in pulling; did get 1 mobile number. Another girl watching this exchange; when I asked for hers, she just shook her head (you are known by your actions, so take care). At least 6 asian study subjects that, on another day, would have availed myself of the opportunity.
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Thursday night, hooked up with EverReady at SeaView Hotel club (entrance in back of hotel - big sign "Club"). SeaView (NOT SeaShell) is on Al-Mina Road across from Harbor and Customs building. KICK-ASS philipino Rock and Roll band. Best I've heard here. Forget the rap and R&B crap. Play 10-11, 45 minute break filled with techo, r&b, then back on from 11:45 to just past 1. Didn't stay for last set. Some SW's around, but nothing like Cyclone or York. There are probably more SW's in one corner of Cyclone than in all of SeaView. Very low key; they do NOT approach you, but takes action from you to initiate conversation. Number of legit couples, also some obviously mixed couple tourist groups, so, unlike CITY, DON'T assume any female there is on the game. There were some attractive SW's: couple CIS, one a girl next door type; couple chinese. Many more males than females, but P4P secondary to MUSIC here (very loud, small club).
My impression: SW's around to meet demand, though you might want to select early just to "lock her in"; otherwise, someone else might, especially as it gets closer to closing. No idea of prices, but did not think this venue was geared to ST /return for another customer. Not saying she wouldn't if she could. But, like I say, people go for the music (unlike Cyclone - they play music there?), then, if interested in some company, select from SW's present. Or bring your own - band is fantastic.
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Fenstor - congratulations for keeping the streak alive: 0 for 33.
Ever Ready
07-16-04, 15:14
Hey Guys,
I met with Bravo at the Seaview yesterday evening. As stated in his report, and previously in several of my reports, this is a great place for a night out.
Bravo, you summed it up right, that mongering here is secondary to the music, but as I came with baggage in the shape of my flipper live-in, and she knows all the bar staff and the band, I'm not going to drop myself in the sh*t by pulling P4P from this place. Mind you there were enough good looking ladies there to keep the neck joints well exercised. My gf is well used to me checking out the sights!
Yet again the band there did themselves proud, with track after track after track of perfectly played 70's and 80's classic rock. You leave with your ears bleeding from the sheer volume of the music, but you also leave with an inward glow thinking, "Wow, how can a band play that damn well". I always love a night there.
Great to see you there Bravo, hopefully catch you there again sometime.
Hi
I had planned a vacation to Dubai with a friend and here are some of the details as to how we spent our days there.
Day 1
We landed in Dubai on the 3rd of July and immediately after checking in to our hotel went to check out the action at the Rumours Night Club. Picked up a Djiboutian lady for Dhs 400 LT. She was good to look at but average in the services department. She also wanted to leave early but as we had agreed to settle in the morning I refused to allow her to go.
Day 2
The next day me and my friend decided to check out the action at F's place. We called F up and set up an appointmant. My friend went with T and LY for a session of group sex. He was very happy with the services rendered by the two ladies and recommended the highly.
In the evening we went to cyclone and picked up a Russian lady Rosa and a Chinese lady ming. The russian had great attitude and was excellent in bed. My friend was happy with the services of the chinese too.
Day 3
Decided to visit TGIT in the afternoon. Lots of girls there but very few stunners. Went with a cute chick and her friend for ST. The experience was most dissatifying and a complete waste of money.
In the evening decided to visit the Premier. Arrived there at 11.30. The action there had just started to look up, so we decided to have a few drinks and check out all the babes. In my opinion the hottest babes in Dubai are available at the Premier. We sounded out a couple of good ones but most of them wanted Dhs 800 for LT. Since the prices were sky high and the attitude of the ladies was not very good we decided to leave and try out our luck at the cyclone.
There we picked up two chinese ladies for Dhs 400 per lady. Both the girls gave excellent service and had great attitude.
Day 4
Went to F's place again, this time alone as my friend had had enough action for the last three days. Went with G and had one of the most satifying experiences of my life.
In the evening, invited my forum friend JSF for drinks and some chit chat at the hotel. He provided me with a contact of an indian lady and we did check them out in the evening but they were not worth the trouble. I then called up Emma and arranged with her to send over one of her ladys Diana. She was a hot lady with an excellent attitude and I really enjoyed my evening with her and recommend her unreservedly.
After four days of non stop action it was clear that the best services and value for money are availale at the two incall houses.
Trying out girls from discotheques or TGIT is risky and can turn out to be a nightmare. It is just pot luck. Sometimes you might end up with an excellent buy but you also run the risk of being ripped off.
Also please note that if you have taken a girl from a disco for LT then insist on paying later.
Regards
Faisal
JustSumFun
07-16-04, 15:38
Last night was feeling depressed over recent events so made plans to meet a fellow punter after work. Sent him a sms to say I was free and if he was in the vicinity we could hook up for some action at one of his favourite watering holes. The recent events have shaken me up but this guy and I were heading for a collision course for quite sometime and I had committed thursday night to him. His mobile inbox was full so he never got the sms. Well!!!
Piper1 had indicated that he might be at the York and would like to hook up. So went over to the York around 9 as is my wont. Was debating if I should go over to the Seaview and crash Bravo and EverReady's party or wait for Piper1. Decided to stick to York and see if Piper1 showed up. According to his post he was there. So was I. I was the one holding up the wall next to the entrance. The one between the entrance and exit doors. There had been some complaints that the wall was going to fall over any time. So did my civil duty and held it up for all of 1 and half hours. No Piper1. Well he was there and I was there but since we did not get a chance to exchange information about our looks we had no way of recognising each other.
There was this lovely young CIS with a killer figure standing behind me talking on the mobile. Wonder how she could hear the other party with the loud music on. I was sitting with my back to her. I felt that was rude so I turned around and sat facing her. ;) She kept talking and gave me a nice smile. She was wearing very tight greyish stretch trousers and a tank top. A pony tail and a cute smile completed the picture. I thought of introducing myself but my heart was not in it. So let it go. She will be there the next week. Will catch her then.
A tall thin chinese came over and shook hands. She had a toothy smile and an almost apologetic look on her face. Perhaps she did not want to disturb me but was forced to do so. Asked me about my antedecents and then sprung the question. "you want lady tonite"? Told her ruefully that I would love to have a lady tonite but would be terrible company for the lady. Dont think she quite followed my train of thoughts but she got the message and reluctantly left my side.
A couple of african cuties then came over to interview me. Nice smiles and very naughty girls. Both barely out of the kindergarten I think. One of them ruffled my hair and said " I like your hair.". Well I had to reciprocate so took her permed hair in my hand, felt the texture and told her "your hair is better". That got a giggle out of both of them. They suddenly spotted a potential customer and patted me on the arm and left with a cute smile. Ahhh!!!!. Well that was nice. Seems my hair still attracts them.
Spotted some new faces and some old ones. YY was in evidence and I tried to catch her eye and see if I could swing something for a sunday nooner. But she appeared not to recognise me. Well who can blame her. The last time she saw me when I was with Bravo and EverReady. With those two around who could notice me ;)
Anna was conspicous by her absense. Will catch both of them the next time. Just was not in the mood to pursue anyone last night.
Left around 10:30 pm and went straight home, after calling up the other member, who wanted to hook up. He got caught in a family gathering and could not get away. So we have decided to meet up on coming sunday.
Justfun
Captain Fire
If any of you can heklp in any way, perhaps get ahold of the king, JSF and maybe he has some ideas of what we can do.I guess the only way we could help them is if we could somehow raise the funds to pay their penalties so that they could be given another chance. Failing which they will be deported. If they can raise the money for their airfare, and the penalty, they will be sent on their way quickly. If not they will probably languish in the lock-up for quite sometime until they can muster up the funds somehow. How they will do that, while they are in the lock-up, is anyone's guess.
Hi All,
Sorry Fenster, but I have to say it: I spoke to L, then I called C and I porked her (in that order) ;) I agree with you - it's good to read of experiences like Rayman's (I'm still jealous). If and when I get that lucky, I'll post.
Rayman - I see your point, but to me, a freebie is a freebie. I've had many non P4P one-nighter's back home with no more romance than a few drinks, a few laughs, a bit of flirting eye contact and touching, and a "Come home and examine my etchings".
The only freebie offer I've had from a P4P girl was from a CIS girl who'd been a regular until I steered away from her when she starting to act like we were in relationship (even cooking, cleaning and ironing for me, for heavens sake). But worse, she started intervening and getting a bit aggro when I would be at York chatting with other girls, which put them off a bit. I turned down her offer. But I digress ...
JSF - sorry we didn't catch up last night. After a very late Wednesday night/Thursday morning and only a few hours sleep, I had all intentions of staying home to recover and catch up on some work. However, a mate called and wanted company at the York, and I do find it hard to say no. We arrived about 10pm, and strayed between the pool table end and the wild jungle thick of it. I did look around, but like you, I don't realy know what you look like (except that you have lovely hair ;) ) Regarding how to spot me - I look like Brad Pitt (after the fight club) ;) I'll PM you with a more honest description.
I solved the Lilli phone call mystery (when I tried to call her on Wednesday night a Chinese woman answered). My mate told me she obviously gave me a wrong number because she didn't want to see me again. I pondered that, but remembered we got on well, so thought better of it. I spotted Lilli about midnight. She seemed busily involved with a guy, but I quietly and briefly interrupted and re-introduced myself to her to confirm the phone number. She was a bit confused at first because I accidentally used my real name instead of the pseudonym I'd used with her a few weeks ago.
I was severely tempted to take her if she seemed available, but a guy (one of you maybe??) was making it pretty clear he was taking her, and eventually he did. I thank him, as I would have been literally sleeping by the time we got home. When I did get home, I checked and found that I'd mistakenly written down the number of a MP instead of Lilli's.
By the way, I chatted with the girl who locked me in one night (we actually go way back and get on quite well, and in all fairness, it was more like a tiff on her behalf). I mentioned to her (without details) that I'd told some guys about the incident, and a couple of them wanted her number. She made it clear that she did not want me to giver her number out - sorry.
Well, my mate just called again (bad influence!), and we're off somewhere tonight - not sure where yet, but it won't be York.
Hey Rayman - I might try Jimmy Dix!
Bye for now
Piper
no useful information, except to provide an example of the usefulness of the search engine. skip if you know how.
a pre-emptive strike:
as you cannot evaluate my impersonation of rod sering (very poor), i will merely type, "submitted for your approval, the posting record of mr. fenster". i will let the statistics and his own words speak for themselves (thank you, mr. jackson, for the search engine). in the below, i have used italics for emphasis:
posts:
morocco: 7
russia: 13 (1 deleted by admin for personal attack)
rules: 1
cypress: 1
uae: 11 (1 deleted by admin for personal attack)
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total: 33 (as of 16 july 2004)
fenster, 12-07-03 00:55: justsumfun,
congratulation on being anointed as the undisputed sultan of dubai, and thanks again for furnishing the dubai bound monger with invaluable info. i was wondering if you’d be kind enough to supply me with your cis house contact. i'd very much appreciate it if you would please contact me via a private message using the wsg forum's private message service.
fenster, 07-16-04 02:07: your little adventure is a breath of fresh air to this stale emirates section, ...
this certainly beats the torturous read of, “ i met with f, and talked with u, i telephoned c, and porked k…
seems there is quite a difference in a year.
fenster, 06-07-04 16:50: would any of the dubai kings speak to issue of the city's intense heat, its effects on mongering and westerners from cold climates. the saying goes dubai could've been a premier mongering city had it not been for its debilitating heat and humidity. how say you kings?up until a month ago, still seems to respect senior member's opinions of things.
another interesting post:
fenster, 11-27-02 20:30: this poster will be in morocco in the first quarter of 03, and just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the likes of manuelo there, i will post info about every address, hole, contact, cell/land number, attribute, curvature, photo and money matters to say the least. yet, in 33 posts, i have yet to find a first person fr from this member. the only posts i see are questions and attacks.
fenster, 09-27-03 05:56: allow me to be the skunk at the party and not stroke and massage the administrator and his guidelines. is jackson even aware of the format his board has evolved to? what reports are you talking about for cryin out loud? the ratio of meaningful reports vs. pure discussion and inquiries is negligible if not nil. so now if a not so senior member wants to post a follow up question on a topic, you wanna call his mono syllabic inquiry a report? you wanna have him wait till you parse it, patronize and approve it? is that it? either the administrator is all too flabbergasted with having control over a forum, or is enamored with the business of over kill, time consuming administration.
and why are you taking these tedious, draconian measures? cause your board is free? so charge us and reinstate ease of use. you think patrons of this board are destitute and desperate for freebies? you want us to do hand stands cause your board is free to the public? ultimately, if a member has a quick question about a hotel or a location, don’t ask him to post his report so you can examine it, he doesn’t have a report, his is a two worded question.
jackson's reply: what's "draconian" about asking people to use correct capitalization and puncutation?
fenster, 03-14-04 11:01: my only prerequisite pertinent to the type of club i might frequent is abundance of fine pussy and favorable ratios. in other words, less dicks and more tits, well, maybe one with minimum bo too. i’m in my late 30s and speak pedestrian russian. what’s shitty about the club scene doc, is that you rarely find a joint that doesn’t play deafening music. how da fuck can extroverts like us, who rely on persuasive speech to get laid, operate in such environments. so working one’s mojo in a super loud techno crap orientated club is tedious. what’s your prescription doc?
by the way, if you’re back early april, i’ll still be around and will look you up.again, it's past april, yet no field report. maybe doc ducked out on this one? maybe he took it as a personal threat?
in summary, i obviously have way too much time on my hands to spend the 30 minutes it took to do the research. that's what happens when you get drained by a chinese cyclone office girl. so i suggest fellow members follow suit: use the search button in the bottom right of each post to check member's credentials. as i have always said, you are known by your posts.
EverReady, 07-16-04 18:14: Yet again the band there did themselves proud, with track after track after track of perfectly played 70's and 80's classic rock. You leave with your ears bleeding from the sheer volume of the music, but you also leave with an inward glow thinking, "Wow, how can a band play that damn well". I always love a night there.
Great to see you there Bravo, hopefully catch you there again sometime.You can count on it. This place makes a very nice change: GREAT music (IF this is your type of music; yes, it is mine), good place to have a drink and groove (won't say relax, the band plays kick-ass R&R), and not be hassled by fending off unwanted working ladies.
Can't remember the name of the song, but there is one where the female bass guitarist moves over to drums: ER's comments about Animal on the Muppet show leaving me in stitches. The guy who plays lead hits every note; the female singers very easy on the eye.
If your primary desire of an evening is SW's, Cyclone, York, then Imperial. If it's classic rock music, SeaView, with some opportunities available
Faisal, 07-16-04 18:33: Picked up a Djiboutian lady for Dhs 400 LT. She was good to look at but average in the services department. She also wanted to leave early but as we had agreed to settle in the morning I refused to allow her to go.Some friendly advice: let her go. I would try and offer a lower payment as she had broken the agreement. I'd have given 200, if complaints, 300. If scene, then coughed up the 400 (just not worth it in the long run). But your time and mental state worth more than a few extra hours from an unwilling provider. After all, how much fun could it have been if she wanted to leave? I'd expect way below average service in such a case. A name here would be appropriate so others could avoid. Here again, pay once, then vote with your/our feet.
Decided to visit TGIT in the afternoon. Lots of girls there but very few stunners. Went with a cute chick and her friend for ST. The experience was most dissatifying and a complete waste of money.TGIT is always hit and miss. You did not specify payment. For 200, you were ripped, and names would be appropriate. For 100, well, old saying goes, you get what you pay for. However, by definition, pulling TGIT afternoon will always be ST; she will be thinking about evening's engagements. Not saying you can't find GFE's from afternoons, just don't expect them as much as LT evenings.
In the evening decided to visit the Premier. ... In my opinion the hottest babes in Dubai are available at the Premier. We sounded out a couple of good ones but most of them wanted Dhs 800 for LT. Since the prices were sky high and the attitude of the ladies was not very good we decided to leave and try out our luck at the cyclone.We agree here; looks are not everything. Attitude counts for so much!
Trying out girls from discotheques or TGIT is risky and can turn out to be a nightmare. It is just pot luck. Sometimes you might end up with an excellent buy but you also run the risk of being ripped off.Advantage of bars is you get to see the ladies available with no obligation to partake, and you are not wasting their time. As mentioned in earlier posts, lookie-lous visiting houses take up everyone's time. Arrive, look, chose or leave. Best indicator for me is her attitude in the bar: is she joking around, flirting, listening to you, reacting to you; or is she just trying the hard sell and quick decision.
Also please note that if you have taken a girl from a disco for LT then insist on paying later.Another disciple ;)
Nice FR, Faisal. An enjoyable read. Again, for truly bad service, NOT the "when she got back to the hotel, she wouldn't do such-and-such although I hadn't asked her up front", "she was mechanical", or other such things, but when she breaks the agreement, then a name to warn others.
Mad Hatter
07-16-04, 20:01
Back again - I hate my job - & whoa whats going on.
Well, I am back again in Dubai. I hate my damn company - they keep packing me off every few weeks. I didnt get to read any of the posts for the past month and I have spent that last 3 hours catching up.
JSF - sending you the indian contact.
All others - Sorry - you'll are all mostly lurkers - and no 1 post does not change my opinion.
To all the people who ask basic questions without reading up - The reason we post is so you read and info is shared. So if you are not reading them, then there is no point to posting. No point to posting, no point of this site.
Besides you are not paying the senior for the info so none of the senior members need to help you - they are not salesman in a shop. (Bravo11 - Had to get it out of my system after reading a couple of idiots who asked for info when right below their post was all the info they would need).
Read up on F's problem. Damn, this sucks. Lets hope there are no more raids.
Well, went out this afternoon - flew in last night. Went over to Rock Bottom's for some lunch. Funnily enough saw a CIS eating lunch there as well - thought I recognised her. So started to chat to her and lo belhold - she is a SW. She has long blond hair, nice body, rock hard stomach, and looks a tiny bit like maria sharapova. We decide on 400 for 3 hours.
Take her back to my place. She does a whole strip tease for me - very sexy, then gets down to business, bbbj, and straight sex.
Didnt want any other position than missionary, sucked and annoying. And she was very mechanical as well. I mean I know most girls use fake moans with us but this was so damn obvious and robotic it pissed me off.
Finished and sent her out with 200 for the 1 hour.
Well, her name is Vania. Have her contact but would not recommend her unless looks are no.1 priority.
Looks: 9, Body 9, Service 4, Attitude, 4
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Guys,
I have been nominated to arrange the talent for a friends bachelor party, quite fed up the regular places. Any suggestions?
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Hi again,
Saturday evening now - I see the report I sent yesterday hasn't come up yet, and I can't remember what I wrote!
I've posted a few photos in the photo section. The pics are a few years old, but hey, who's counting! I picked her up in an Indian bar where she was working as a drinks waitress, and she used to be a dancers in another bar. She wasn't P4P as far as I know. Well, we never discussed money and I spent a few nights with her, going out for dinner and drinks then going back to the apartment. She was very shy in the bedroom to start with - but ended up being a real biter - the bruises took days to go away (check out those teeth). The photos don't do her justice - she had the most beautiful eyes.
Well, back to the present. Last night I was feeling run down from lack of sleep and a bad cold, but against my good judgement, I agreed to join a mate at Rock Bottom for a few drinks. Some georgeous girls, but it's not a P4P place (although as I've mentioned before, a few do get in from time to time). My mate suggested we stay and try our luck, but this sniffly and half-asleep Piper wasn't up to the challenge.
I'm ashamed to say, he succeeded in dragging me off to York again (I promise myself to venture elsewhere next time!) After a couple of hours he ended up leaving with the intention of calling a girl he knows, but I stayed on due to inertia. York was much the same as usual, but I did see a few cute Chinese. I rarely get tempted by them, despite (or maybe because of) their aggressive marketing. I usually just say "no thanks" and off they go. Nearly closing time, one came over to me, and I gave the "no thanks". Then she said come, only 200. I said I wasn't interested, and that I was about to go home to sleep. Then she said 150, and I repeated that I was tired and not interested, then it was 100. Then she said "Okay, I come home with you for free". Well, this surprised me, and of course she had my attention. I asked her why she would come home for free, she's here for business. She said "I like you. We go back and talk". I'd had a few drinks but not too many to be duped like that. Besides, I wasn't feeling talkative. So I said "No thanks", and left.
As I walked out onto the street where the line-up for taxis had begun, a fight suddenly broke out directly in front of me - a Chinese girl was bashing a security guard on the head with her handbag as he was shoving her around. I happened to be just behind the security guy as this happened, and without even realizing what I was doing, I put my hand on his shoulder, gently pulled him back and said "hey, relax, relax". To my surprise he did - he backed right off. Then, I kid you not, about six chinese girls who had been watching this crowded over me. Again, no thanks ... I really should have stayed at home!
JSF - I'm still having PM problems. I didn't get your PM until now, and I cannot PM back. I know who you mean, she knows me also, so I'll ask her next time I'm there (by the way, she's a real cutie. do you think there's any chance that, nah)
11B - I have to admit I agree with you on the Fen (who managed to compliment and criticise at the same time). I did my own quick search yesterday before reading your post, and was tempted to say what you said, but couldn't be bothered. My usual policy is to ignore posts like his, but I certainly agree with him that Rayman's post was great.
Bye for now
Piper
Member #1263
07-17-04, 15:41
Hi guys...do you reckon if we say to an A-list from Cyclone who wants to charge 1000 for the night! 'pay later'...I assume she would not accept that?.
Also I have noted couple of those Romanians hanging in the center of bar....charging over adn above 1000 where their LT turns out to be ST and serivce sucks!!. Take care mates.
#1263
Pay after: Actually, I have found that pay after has been less of a problem at the "high end" of the scale, as for service quality, that is something you really never know until you try. There are no fool-proof indicators of quality that I know of. Even a favorable FR depends upon who posted it and their definition of quality service.
Cheers,
Sporadic
Mad Hatter,
I'm pretty sure I know the girl you are talking about - I've seen her there a few times, and recently she came and said hi to me. I took her home a few times a couple of years ago, from a bar near the airport. Same service - erotic striptease and so-so performance - not bad, not spectacular.
#1263: Only 2 sample points, both Chinese from Cyclone. One was no problem, in fact, when to pay never came up. We were walking out the door after the ST session when I remembered I hadn't paid her. Slipped her the money; she claimed she'd forgotten about it too. (My guess is, she probably would have remembered by the time I got her home, but was nice).
The other was at the opposite end of the spectrum.
Ref: http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=136191&highlight=Lisa#post136191
I still remember from last October. Had spent a bit of time in negotiations, but when I mentioned Pay After, she gave me a look I'll never forget. Needless to say, it wasn't a nice one. Talk about flicking the switch from "warm and friendly" to "blizzard conditions"...
So it's really up to the individual. You can always ask; then, if they say no, you can throw that into the "go/no go" equation.
Piper1: I also enjoyed Rayman's post; given my looks, only a fantasy unless the girl was blind drunk. I just thought I'd throw a bit of levity in; after all, in this climate, I'd be at the car wash at opening.
Fenster:
I'm the first to admit your last post went "zoom over my head". I'm simple; no doubt about that. 2 syllable words, English only, is about my limit. I post basic reports, basic comments.
You seem to be rather fond of asking questions, so hopefully you'll indulge a few simple questions from me, with a few simple answers. If not, no problem. Obviously up to you; I'm just a bit curious is all. But really none of my business.
1. Do you participate in P4P?
(Some do, a lot don't. Nothing wrong with not participating; I say, more power to those that don't, seriously. It's a line, once crossed, too easy to cross again and again). But I digress; I'm just trying to assure all this is just a basic, not loaded, question.
If the answer to #1 is no, then please skip the below questions as they are moot.
2. Have you ever posted a report about your personal experience with P4P?
3. If you have posted, please post a cite as I'd like to read an FR from you about a personal P4P experience of yours.
4. If you have not posted a 1st person FR (but have indulged), then why not?
5. Nothing wrong with asking questions, but have you ever posted a report that offered advice on the P4P scene from personal experience? Again, if so, could you please cite it.
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To be fair, here are my simple answers to the above:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=247644&highlight=TGIT#post247644
4. Not applicable
5. Yes. http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=247644&highlight=TGIT#post247644
OK, I took the easy out on the cite for question 5.
Fenster:
Notice, no caps, no bold type titles, no self aggrandizement, no screaming to frantically get noticed.
...and no thesaurus either!
Cheers,
Sporadic
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Have got some great contacts from kind people on the forum, Thank You guys! Any one know if there are any near the burj-al-arab hotel or hard rock cafe?
Thank You
I wish you children you grow up a bit...:-)) (wink). Fensters comments on the right track though in my view. This board does have a high degree of banality, particularly concerning Cyclone and York. The Seaview posts were good though.
Anyway...I have been dating this Indonesian girl for the past few weeks, and despite her nice looks I have been bored senseless by her - I didn't know that restaurant life was so dull.
Four days ago we made out in her dorm and I was so thankful that I didn't have to see her again. 'What a cad' - a user and abuser! Correct but having gone though her mobile's message inbox (by stealth) and discovering how many westerners she is playing off against one another she deserves it. So I have moved on to a Chinese waitress (picked up at the Indonesian's housing block) and a lbfm Pino that is a real little cutie..but she also has a long list of boys around her judging by the amount of calls she gets everytime we are together. I would like to think that last night whilst I was chasing the Chinese she was tucked up in bed dreaming of me but I suspect in reality she was on her knees...you get the drift eh lads.
I have to say, I must agree with Fenster.
The posts on this board are getting rather monotonous. I personally don't post unless its a particularly exciting or off-beat sexual adventure. What's the point of typing the same, generic, boring reports time and time again?
Which is why Rayman's exploits made excellent reading!
Please, allow me to preempt all those who might want to say to me: "Don't read the posts if you find them boring!" I don't.
Hi Rayman,
I wouldnt mind the Indonesian gal's conact number. I speak the lingo quite well. A few meetings with her and I could just perfect my language.
Hi Rayman,
I wouldnt mind the Indonesian gal's conact number. I speak the lingo quite well. A few meetings with her and I could just perfect my language.
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I wholeheartedly agree with Piper1, like he said, posts like 11Bravo’s and Sporadic’s lack any value and should be ignored.
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Fenster, you clearly misunderstood - I said that my policy is usually to ignore posts like yours (criticisms or flames).
I don't know where you got the bit about posts from 11B and Sporadic lacking value, but it wasn't from me. In fact, I think the opposite.
As I mentioned, I don't get involved in flames, so don't misquote me in yours.
Thanks
Please lets not get into a discussion over what constitutes a good post. All are worthy depending on ones viewpoint, and I did discover both York and Cyclone through comments on this board ... and wasted a bit of money..yer bas***ds..:-))
If you want to go Indonesian go to an Indonesian restaurant..like I did. Unfortunately the Lebanese one is full of tiny fillos...:-((..but she was like a dead plank in bed. If she was any good I would have kept returning regardless of her other men-friends but like this..no way.
A poor quality pic is attached after the dirty deed.
just for a change, here's something a little different:
i was overseas on a brief business trip a few months ago, and on my final night there, i went to a "swingers club". single guys are screened, and pay the equivalent of about 400dh for entry – not a bad deal considering you can have a good time over several hours with several women, depending on your luck and energy levels.
this place was like a nightclub, large and luxurious - a bit like the place that tom cruise's character got into trouble in the movie "eyes wide shut". the bar and dancing area downstairs, and several bedrooms upstairs. i sat at the bar for a while and checked out the scene. there were about 40 people – ranging from young gorgeous women, right through to middle-aged women, most of them with their men. many of them were obviously regulars and knew each other. not an easy scene for single guys, especially new guys, but in the past i've nearly always been lucky.
to keep a long story shorter, as the night went on, i made four unsuccessful attempts (too much competition and i was unknown there). then i saw a woman who had turned up late and alone. she was about a 5 out of 10, in her late 20s - tall, nice body and short black hair. i wouldn't have chosen her in dubai, but i'd paid my entrance fee, and it was getting late! i tried not to waste time, and after chatting about 20 minutes, i made a proposition, (and it wasn't for marriage). she made me work for the opportunity, telling me she wouldn't just go to bed with me so quickly, and that i had to charm her more. i've become really lazy in dubai.
she wandered around at one stage, obviously checking out who else was available. but 10 minutes later, she came back and repeated that she wanted to be charmed. i joked "what do i have to do, recite poetry??" she laughed and said that would be nice. i told her it was too late in the night, and i'm out of practice. again she laughed, then told me she was going to get another drink, and when she came back i had to have a poem for her. i came up with a corny poem, describing our ridiculous situation. she liked it, laughed, and said "okay, you got me, let's go".
some of the rooms had transparent white curtains over the doorway (which any voyeur was allowed to look into), and some had black curtains, which were private rooms. she chose a white curtained room, and i thought "hmm, interesting". well, she was good – she was there for pleasure. i had to slow her down a bit as i wanted it to last. but i looked at the doorway after about 15 minutes, and saw a couple of nice young blondes holding the curtain open and having a good look, and they kept on looking even when i maintained eye contact with them. i have to admit i lost control and climaxed pretty soon afterwards! the woman i was with had been moaning with pleasure, but now started moaning in disappointment. after a short while, i made a move to get dressed. she asked me not to go, but i knew it would be past closing time before re-charged, so i apologized and we got dressed. if only we'd started earlier.
it was now about 20 minutes before closing, so i thought i'd look around before going. i peeked into the black-curtained, dimly lit orgy room. i saw a writhing chain of about 12 naked people of various ages, shapes and sizes, humping, slurping and sucking in all sorts of positions. before i could say "well how about that", a security guy came and told me i wasn't allowed to look there, so i went on my way to get ready for an early flight.
Mad Hatter
07-18-04, 10:44
I have to agree with 11Bravo in this argument.
Fenster complains about banal, mediocre and unoriginal posts when the fact is Fenster has not posted anything remotely useful. All his posts have involved asking for contacts or criticizing people. But of course since he has demonstrated his wonderful command of big words in the English language, he must be much cooler than us and must also posses a huge dick. Oh Mighty Fenster, please attack me as well and allow me to revel in your abuse. I bow down to your inaneness.
By the way - something very very funny. I have a few friends who live in the Gardens. Gardens was supposed to be a nice family oriented locality away from the main city - only 1 bar there and 1 supermarket. Well, guess what, some Russians have moved in and are running a house there too. I love this shit. Economics of Supply and Demand always win out over morality.
If you are looking for some *freebies* I have always done well at the Lodge. Very popular, and most girls there just to get it on.
Ajman Kempinsky is looking good as well, saw some stunners there last night. Didnt pull though.
Fenster: Your answer, or rather, non-answer, was totally predictable. Nice try blowing smoke.
The nice thing about simple questions is that they can be answered simply, when one does want to answer: yes/no/cite. And when one does not, they clearly point that out too.
While my reports may be basic, at least I do post FR's. That IS the purpose of the board, after all: personal experience FR's. You're still 0 for 35.
Your answer, or actually lack thereof, begs another question of you, one which I don't have a clue what the answer might be: why request the CIS house contact from JSF? http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=147867#post147867
Maybe you're the new #2, collecting information. Be seeing you.
However, at last, something that Fenster and I can agree on:
Fenster, 07-18-04 02:14: I wholeheartedly agree with Piper1
Piper1, 07-17-04 18:33: 11B - I have to admit I agree with you on the Fen (who managed to compliment and criticise at the same time). I did my own quick search yesterday before reading your post, and was tempted to say what you said, but couldn't be bothered. My usual policy is to ignore posts like his, but I certainly agree with him that Rayman's post was great.
Can't resist :)
Teefy, think you should contact Le Grand for info you seek.
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Saw this in the Gulf News today:
In the third case, a national was acquitted of committing adultery with a Sri Lankan woman. The Lankan was sentenced to 15 months in jail and 120 lashes, followed by deportation. And here I thought it took two to tango.
Farhankhan
07-18-04, 15:42
Hi everyone.
There has been a lot of talk about F's place being raided and many members were indirectly pointing finger at me...that I was the one who posted F's number in an open Yahoo forum. I dont want to do a post mortam work on that issue, but I just want to make some things clear.
Guys, I have never posted F's number in any of the open forum, in WSG, in BKK Tonite or yahoo groups. Yes, I am guilty of posting 'some' contact numbers on the open yahoo forum before,
but never F's contact number.
This is what happened.
Once I posted a contact of a chinese mp (which was available on the classifieds) on the yahoo forum. Justsumfun then e-mailed and advised me not to post any contact numbers on the open forum, even if it is from the classifieds. I accepted, apologized and promised never to post on an open forum.
Then first week of June, I was sending some contact numbers (indian mp, russian freelancer) to a fellow yahoo group member. Instead of replying to that member only, I mistakenly sent the reply to the whole yahoo group. Therefore the number got posted on the open yahoo group forum, even though my intention were to send it to only one fellow member. It was a very careless mistake from me, and I promised to myself to be extra careful from then on.
But let me make it clear again on this. The numbers which I mistakenly posted on the yahoo group forum was not of F's house or the girls. They were totally my contacts, which I was sharing with a fellow longtime member. Furthermore, I never ever sent F's number to any member either through e-mail or pm.
So guys, please dont blame me for the raid at F's place.
Best Regards
Farhan
Hey all,
Just to back up poor ole' Farhan - he's correct, he posted the list of numbers on another forum by mistake (intended as a PM), and someone else posted Firoza's number on the same forum.
Madhatter, any particular bar at the Lodge (Rockafellas, Cheers, etc?)
Bye for now,
Piper
Piper1: Good story, but what do you mean you don't have to work hard in Dubai? Broken English, trying to remember her name, whether you've pulled her before or not... The bars have got to start passing out player programs like at a baseball game.
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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
11B,
I meant that I'm getting lazy in Dubai, in not having to chat up and use charm on women in order to get laid. I guess even with the P4P girls, I like to chat a while, at least to get some idea of their attitude, but in the end we all know there's no challenge, and no "thrill of the hunt".
As you know, there are so many gorgeous non-P4P girls here from all over the world. When I first came to Dubai, I used to get lucky at most of the well-known (non-P4P) bars and clubs. Although I'm not saying I was always lucky - I've found it much harder to get one-night stands here than back at home - most girls here want a relationship. On the other side of the equation, age differences are not a big issue here, so when you do get lucky, it can be very lucky!
Rayman,
You obviously know your way around the non-P4P scene, with your multi-tasking and international smorgasbord. You've re-inspired me.
However, last night I was on the way to Seaview to check out the band I've been hearing about (and the non-P4P talent!), but I had to pop into York briefly. Sadly I gave into temptation when I saw a real cutie. She's new here, and works as a secretary in her country. Her name is Janet (she joked that her last name was Jackson - and there is a resemblance). I took her home for a short time, we did the shower thing and, well, I won't bore you with the juicy details, but she was so good I asked her to stay all night.
(By the way, she told me she usually hangs out at Seaview, because it has a great band. I had to laugh.)
I ended up driving her home at 2pm today after a nice wake-up session, and dammit, it turns out she lives walking distance from me - way too much of a temptation! Be strong Piper.
So now you know what I mean about getting lazy!
Rayman,
What did you mean by "Unfortunately the Lebanese one is full of tiny fillos.:-((.." And "lbm Pino"? Just curious, I'm losing track of all your adventures!
JSF - where at thou?
By the way guys, I see the PMs in my inbox, but I cannot access them easily. I only managed to crack one open today, and I'm not sure if my reply got through - it should be okay tomorrow.
Now to get some sleep.
JustSumFun
07-19-04, 12:34
Farhan Khan
But let me make it clear again on this. The numbers which I mistakenly posted on the yahoo group forum was not of F's house or the girls. They were totally my contacts, which I was sharing with a fellow longtime member. Furthermore, I never ever sent F's number to any member either through e-mail or pm.
So guys, please dont blame me for the raid at F's place. Hello Guys. He is right. He never posted that number. He is a new comer to that Yahoo group. The person who posted on the Yahoo group has been a member for a long time. He got the numebr from me nearly a year back. We used to talk on the phone too. But then lost touch as so often happens. I still have his number, but dont really feel it would serve any purpose talking to him.
Anyways just wanted to say that Farhan is not the guy who posted. I did have a difference of opinion with him regarding posting of MP numbers. Since then he has not posted anything incriminating. Except the one time he sent off a post to everyone instead of to one member in error.
Justfun
Mad Hatter. Thanks for the pm and the number mate. Will see if I can arrange accomodation before using the number.
Sorry guys, I tried to PM this, but still no luck. Anyone else having PM problems?
JSF,
Good to see you online, you've been a bit quiet. I posted yesterday to back up Farhan, but it takes a couple of days for my posts to get through, so sorry if it looks like I'm being repetitive. And yes, it was another guy on the Yahoo forum (with an interesting picture on his profile) who posted Firoza's number.
To avoid confusion, I had only just sent the "Where art thou" question a few minutes before your (instant) post appeared, so pardon the time-lag.
Piper
Hi Guys!
Been lurking on these forums for quite a while. Having lived here in UAE(expat) for well over 15yrs I wish I could say I know all the "areas" but sadly don't. Haven't ventured much into the p4p area because once you cross it, like someone said, it becomes easier and easier.
Having said that I have visited a few incall places but now only have one contact (mostly CIS and S Asian ladies) and visit that I'd say 4 times a year. However, the quality is going downhill so will give some other places (mentioned in this forum) a shot. It will probably take me some time because am new to this area (venturing out rather than incall).
So hope to get a few tips and share my experiences (and possibly contacts).
Farhankhan
07-19-04, 15:05
Thanks Justsumfun and 11bravo for clearing my name.
I guess we should close this topic and move on to other discussions.
Regards
Farhan
Cool Sinbad
07-19-04, 15:48
Hi everyone,
I was in Dubai for 3 nights last week, and you've gotta read on to believe what happened.
Checked in late at night at the Grand Hyatt and decided to go down to MIX the disco downstairs. Walked in at around 12:30 am and saw the usual pick up scene. While scoping around I saw this beautiful blond CIS dancing by herself. Tall, with a a slim well-shaped body. She would dance a couple of numbers, and then go back and sit at a table close by - all by herself. Saw her do it a couple of times.
Deciding to make my move, I went over to her table and sat down, while she was dancing on the floor. When she came back to sit down, she gave me this territorial scowl and sat down again, giving me the brush off "I'm not interested" look. I stayed there, smoked a cigarette and ordered another drink.
When she took out a cigaertte to smoke, she looked in my direction, and I obliged with my lighter. "How did you read my mind" was the reply in accented English. So, we started talking, and within 15 minutes she was telling me she wanted to spend the night with me since I was staying at the hotel. Talked a whole lot about a whole bunch of things (art, music, dubai - you know the routine)
At 3:00 we went up to my room. After another drink there, we first had a shower and then the most mindblowing sex I've ever had (and I've had my share of ladies). Every possible position (except anal), for over 45 minutes or maybe an hour.
She went home at 10:00 am in the morning. She came by at 11:00pm that same night, and we did the whole thing all over again.
Same thing the third night also.
SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?
She didn't ask for a penny. I know she was a pro, her language and everything else screamed pro from the moment I saw her, but she did not ask me for a single penny. Not a drink, not a cigarette (I had to keep offering her everything and almost forcing her to order drinks. I kept waiting for her to open her mouth about it for 3 days, but not a sound
I still don't understand what happened, because I was in a pick up joint, and everyone else around was either picking up or being picked up.
Anyone shed any light on this? (Don't tell me it was love at first sight - I've been around the circus a couple of times already).
Coo Sinbad
Dubai gentlemen:
You should be ashamed of yourselves. Sorry, this is the first of 120+ reports written by Muri which has been intemperate in tone; but as a senior monger who may find himself in your area soon on business with some time for pleasure, one sees little guidance and much rancorous argument.
Some hard detail and lyrical description would help Muri make up his mind whether this trip will be worth while from a mongering as well as a professional point of view.
In short: Stop arguing and tell the world how to get fucked in Dubai
sorry to be rude,
Mur
"0 for 37"
Anyone care to guess who might that be?
Guys, too much bickering.
Fen, if you object to the tone or content of other posts, why don't you give us the benefit of your wisdom and post an informative report ?
Expatcat
Cool Sinbad,
Is your name A. Banderas or J. Bond?::)) Or even more B. Pitt?
Ever Ready
07-20-04, 08:30
Murilloa,
In response to your question on how to get fucked in Dubai, just walk up to any policeman and tell him his mother is a pig, and his sister smells like a camel.
I trust this is of assistance.
ER
With copy of TimeOut in hand I drove over to the Rumours nightclub last night...'Free pass for Fliers and Filipinos' the mag touted - certainly hot for some casual encounters thought Ray, exchange some numbers and bag them of at leisure...but unfortunately hopes were dashed when Rumours turned out to be a smaller version of Cyclone. Girl to boy ratio about 2-1 at around midnight. Got chatting, and brought some drinks, to several nice CIS and Yemen ladies, one wanted 500 but refused any sort of Oral, and preferred men with small dicks (I have her number if anyone is interested..:-) ) and the other African lady had awful bad breath along with her large flabby arse which I can only hope would have smelt better. Escaped to the comfort of my Filli-babe - who performed magnificently again and again and again - must remember to buy her something soon..... a chastity belt for when I am away perhaps.
JustSumFun
07-20-04, 12:49
A fellow forum member from Qatar was in town over the weekend and called me up friday mid-morning asking me what the scene was like and what was available. I had already given him F's number a couple of weeks back but due to the raid that option went out the window.
He was booked into the Astoria on my advise. Told him to go downstairs and see what is available in TGIT. He did and he got snared by a CIS. She agreed to everything - BBBJ, DATY etc etc and off they went to his room. Well the scenario changed once he paid up. He forgot to specify that he would pay after. No BBBJ. At best a reluctant CBJ unless he forked out a 50 dhs more. He did. But still it was not something he would write home about. Then the main course and the lady was too busy to notice his efforts. She was busy chatting with her friends on the mobile. The guy was so disgusted he just wanted to get it over with. Which he did and let the lady out of the room pronto.
TGIT strikes again. Well I have had my share of problems but they are very much in the past and I have learnt from my errors. That is one of the reasons why I never pull from the bars. Unless I have heard something good about a particular talent.
That night I went over to Astoria to meet him and then we went for a drive. He wanted something to wash the bad taste (of the afternoon CIS) out of his mouth so insisted that I take him to E's place. I did. He selected Es and had a marvellous experience. He will post his FR when he gets back to the Gulf. He is on a long leave currently. I did not indulge although El looked ravishing. Just did not feel upto it. Ly and the rest of the ladies were still on my mind.
The next day I finished work early and popped into TGIT. Called him and told him I was downstairs if he would like to join me for a drink. He came down and informed me that he had taken another CIS from TGIT that afternoon. This one was a much better experience, although nothing to like what he had at E's house. But compared to the first TGITer this one was a definite improvement. Lulu, the cute chinese with dimples in her cheeks, spotted me and came and gave me a hug. All the ladies in the vicinity turned around and stared at us. They have seen me, off and on, for months and knew that I never pull from there. So Lulu's action told them something. Lulu asked me if I would take her that night. Told her I would call her some other time. She gave me a quick hug and left.
A few minutes later Fifi came along. Saw me and came over and it was a repeat. A hug and a peck on my cheek. Now all the other ladies were gaping. They realised they had a silent player in their midst and had been looking through me for so many months. I guess the next time I go to the TGIT I am going to get some attention. Fifi cracked some jokes about me looking for new talent etc etc. She said she missed me and when would I come to her house again. Well I would need directions from her. I have never been with her. But I have been kidding with her for so long that she thinks I have been with her. Who am I to say otherwise. She likes to come over and cling to me. I like her clinging to me too. No complaints. She is a cute one. Must pull her soon.
A Cis, Nargis, who I had a bad experience with, came over and asked me if I would go with her. I patted her butt and asked her if she now does BBBJ or at least CBJ ? She said no. I said then I wont go with her. She pouted then gave me a small smile and left. This girl is one of my bad experiences. And She keeps trying to get me to go back with her. But she just wont do BJ. And that makes her off list for me.
Jojo has learnt her lesson. She now does not make a beeline for me when she spots me. Just a casual wave of hand and she goes looking for clients in different direction. I like that. Perhaps I will go with her sometime just to say thanks for not coming and sticking to me like the glue.
I have been to TGIT after a very long break so it felt pretty nice. Might just start my old routine of popping in after work a couple of times a week. I saw some nice young CIS and a couple of good looking chinese too. An afro, who looks like an indian, was also there. I have seen this afro many times in the last 4-5 months. She asks for 300 for S/T. Mainly because she prefer L/T I think. She discourages S/T
A stunning CIS was cornered by a guy in local dress. She was a gorgeous one. Never seen her before. Hope to bump into her some time soon. Would love to have her number.
Sunday evening I was just driving aimlessly around when a sms from Bravo got me interested in a couple of drinks at the York. I was feeling a bit depressed about F's place and was not in the mood to go hunting. But the thought of great company and a few drinks cheered me up and I went over to the York happily. Bravo arrived soon and we went and grabbed a table. Talked for a bit and then the line up of chinese girls coming over to interview Bravo started. It was fun. Most girls knew him and he introduced them to me. Very pretty girls.
We were there for an hour and a half and before leaving we went round the bar looking to see if we missed spotting someone interesting. I saw a CIS who I thought was very pretty. She reminded me of Ira. Maybe I will get her number some other time.
It was nice of Bravo to take time out and meet with me. I really enjoyed his company. Thanks Mate.
Justfun
Murrilloa,
Don't be put off by the fact that there are some non-informative posts. If you look back through the posts you'll see some real gems. Dubai is definitely worth a visit.
CoolSinband,
Well, I don't know what happened there - but lucky you!!
Fenster,
I have to say that your posts bring a smile to my face. I mean that in a non-sarcastic way - I'm a lover, not a fighter ;)
Piper
Fernster:
Normally I do not involve myself in a Flame war as you have started. But mate your record speaks for itself. You start out asking contacts then go about bashing the same people who gave you the contacts or for a fact refused to give you the contacts.
If anyone is babbling it is you - Your last 2 - 3 post are not logical and do not make any sense - If anything are a waste of time and a pain in the a**e.
FR's that serious and regular members post is babbling as you call them then why are you going around asking for contacts ? You needed them so as to go and ogle on the women and then go home and do some hand work ?
Member #1263
07-20-04, 15:58
Hi guys...Have seen some hot cuties at the bar in the Mina A Salam hotel. Did speak to a brunette from the eastern block and she straight away quoted 1200Aed! I said 'woow', if beauty and body are top priority then thats A- class babe for you.
P.S have noticed the forum has fallen into a war zone!! chill guys!! its already too hot.
Murilloa, 07-20-04 00:23: You should be ashamed of yourselves. Sorry, this is the first of 120+ reports written by Muri which has been intemperate in tone; but as a senior monger who may find himself in your area soon on business with some time for pleasure, one sees little guidance and much rancorous argument.
Some hard detail and lyrical description would help Muri make up his mind whether this trip will be worth while from a mongering as well as a professional point of view.
In short: Stop arguing and tell the world how to get fucked in Dubai Isn't this the truth: it seems that only when having a small, domestic spat that guests drop in! Any other day, things are peace and tranquility (as most regular readers of this thread know).
Seems that there is no pleasing all: some regular "dubai" members become bored with reading the same reports, over and over. Yet visitors, or newly arrived members ask "who, where, how", over and over.
For me, I think most all questions about where, when, and how are answered within the previous 30 pages (and that's with ANY start point, just scan/read the previous 30 pages). Anyone seeking hard details and lyrical descriptions will easily find them there.
As a compromise, given that we have the DSF, the DSS, I propose the DSWSG: Dubai SW Shopping Guide. This will reduce reports to 1 line, e.g.,: 1D 2D 3D 4B 5A 6EFGIM 7A 8G 9B 10C 11B 12E
by using the following keys:
1. Venue
A. Cyclone
B. Imperial Suites
C. TGIT
D. York
E. Premier
F. Street
G. SeaView
H. House (working)
I. MP
J. Other
K. No statement
2. Choice
A. 1-5
B. 6-10
C. 11-20
D. more than I could count (no more fingers/toes)
E. there were other figures moving about
3. Quality of choice
A. Paradise
B. High
C. Medium
D. Low
E. Not even with YOUR dick
4. Number pulled
A. 0
B. 1
C. 2
D. 3 or more
E. 1 SW for multiple guys (aka the Le Grand option)
Below are only applicable for 4B-E:
5. Nationality
A. Chinese
B. CIS - european
C. CIS - asian
D. African
E. Eastern European
F. Other
G. Round eyed
H. Slant eyed
I. Who looks at the face or listens to her speak?
J. I was happy she was female
K. I thought she was female
L. There was a hole available
6. Menu Services
A. DFK (before CIM)
B. DFK (after CIM)
C. HJ
D. CBJ
E. BBBJ
F. CIM
G. Spitter
H. Swallower
I. FS
J. Anal
K. AR
L. DATY
M. Massage (aka Massageeee)
N. Any fetish here
7. Where
A. My place
B. Her place
C. 3rd party place
D. Car
E. Other (aka Rayman option)
F. In my pants
8. Performance
A. My neighbors were pounding on door, complaining about noise
B. Needed earplugs
C. Sceamer
D. Moaner
E. Heavy Breather
F. Fake O's provided
G. Average
H. Couldn't tell, she never quit speaking on her mobile
I. I spent how much for this?
J. Don't remember
K. Don't want to remember
L. Starfish
M. Mistakenly called police as I thought she was dead
9. Time
A. LT
B. ST
C. less than 30 minutes
D. she got MOST of her clothes off
E. Seemed like forever
F. She's still here
10. Cost (dhs)
A. 1-99
B. 100 range
C. 200 range
D. 300 range
E. 400 range
F. 500 range
G. 600-700
H. 800 and above
I. Freebie (aka Rayman option)
11. Number shots
A. 1
B. 2
C. 3
D. >3
E. As many as I could crank
F. So bad, couldn't get it up
12. Overall Satisfaction
A. Where's the marriage license bureau
B. GFE
C. High
D. Medium
E. Low
F. Never again
G. Hope my neighbors don't see her leaving
H. Wouldn't even pass the number to YOU
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