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Kurt1962,
Probably best you don't take Brenno's advice ....
Changing money:
Panorama is currently around 40-50Kyats below Scott Market price.
If changing in Scott Market, count the bills yourself (there's no rush) and
don't allow them to be touched afterwards. You can usually negotiate the
rate up by 10-15kyats.
I've always found the money changers outside of the market and around Sule Pagoda a
little dodgy and have never completed a deal with one of them.
Euros & GBP also accepted in Yangon, rate will be a little worse (5% or so) than USD.
I have never, in around a dozen visits, been ripped off by a money changer once a rate
as been agreed.
Rate is currently around 1080kyat/$.
Taxis:
Taxis are cheap and should be 1000-1500kyat to most central places mentioned on here.
Outside of clubs the taxis will probably want 2000.
Never had problems getting around with taxis but take a map or hotel business card.
Hotels:
Most hotels are cheaper if booked through a local travel agent.
Panorama is around US$24 for a superior room, no extra for a guest.
Good alternative with a small pool for around the same price is
Yuzanna Garden (note the club there is shut down).
Best choice is probably Grand Mee Ya Hta at US$50/night, though that's
getting hard to get into nowadays. There are other serviced apartments but a little further from the center.
Massage:
Good legit massage at Central Hotel on the 6th floor 5000kyat/hour.
Happy ending available at Executive Body Treatment in the Grand Mee at
massage cost (10000/hour or so +US$10 - wouldn't accept the $5 I suggested so I didn't proceed.
More later, this info is from Feb 2009.
Kurt1962,
Probably best you don't take Brenno's advice ....
Changing money:
Panorama is currently around 40-50Kyats below Scott Market price.
If changing in Scott Market, count the bills yourself (there's no rush) and don't allow them to be touched afterwards. You can usually negotiate the rate up by 10-15kyats.
I've always found the money changers outside of the market and around Sule Pagoda a little dodgy and have never completed a deal with one of them.
Euros & GBP also accepted in Yangon, rate will be a little worse (5% or so) than USD.
I have never, in around a dozen visits, been ripped off by a money changer once a rate as been agreed.
Rate is currently around 1080kyat/$.
Taxis:
Taxis are cheap and should be 1000-1500kyat to most central places mentioned on here.
Outside of clubs the taxis will probably want 2000.
Never had problems getting around with taxis but take a map or hotel business card.
Hotels:
Most hotels are cheaper if booked through a local travel agent.
Panorama is around US$24 for a superior room, no extra for a guest.
Good alternative with a small pool for around the same price is Yuzanna Garden (note the club there is shut down).
Best choice is probably Grand Mee Ya Hta at US$50/night, though that's getting hard to get into nowadays. There are other serviced apartments but a little further from the center.
Massage:
Good legit massage at Central Hotel on the 6th floor 5000kyat/hour.
Happy ending available at Executive Body Treatment in the Grand Mee at massage cost (10000/hour or so +US$10 - wouldn't accept the $5 I suggested so I didn't proceed.
More later, this info is from Feb 2009.Thanks a lot for your advice. I have been to Myanmar twice and will visit again later this year, after the rainy season. I may try the Yuzana Garden after twice the Panaorama, although everything was ok there.
Kurt1962,
Probably best you don't take Brenno's advice ....
Lol! At least his advice is pretty much on par with his vision of women and I suspect of life... Got a 2 BR appartment in Grand Myathia for the next week end, after it seems one of the buggers staying in the 2BR terrace suite extended his stay. No terrace than, but hopefully a bit of fun.
Gentlemen
I write report about what happened to me because I think this way work the forum system.
Everybody have different experience, someone have good time where someone else are ripped off.
The truth.. doesn't exist. Anyone has its own. I just write what happened to me. maybe I am a fool and for this I've been ripped off by changers, maybe.
Maybe I was unluck and I was driven to unknown places by taxidrivers. Maybe.
Just bear in mind that can happen.
Having said this.... just do as I do, read everybody and try to get something from everybody's experience.
Gentlemen,
I write report about what happened to me because I think this way work the forum system.
Everybody have different experience, someone have good time where someone else are ripped off.
The truth.. doesn't exist. Anyone has its own. I just write what happened to me. maybe I am a fool and for this I've been ripped off by changers, maybe.
Maybe I was unluck and I was driven to unknown places by taxidrivers. Maybe.
Just bear in mind that can happen.
Having said this.... just do as I do, read everybody and try to get something from everybody's experience.Your report is very good, its good to know the bad things. i have been going to Thailand and Cambodia for nearly 10 years and still get someone trying to rip me off, you must allways look out for this.
Lone Punter
03-06-09, 14:50
I have recently been to Yangon and I have a couple of observations I want to share with the noble members of this board. I am somewhat in a rush and just want to come to the point.
As on a previous trip I stayed at the Panoramo. There has been sufficients reports about the women under the bridge, Asia Plza, Emeperor disco etc.
When I checked out early on my last day there was an embarrassing scene at the reception. A very decent younger business man came down with his 18-19 something girl and it was so hilarious, they had great trouble to find that girls red ID card. There where at least 20 cards from female visitors. This guy was with a beautiful, very serious looking cuty, she must have been a student working for her study fees. I don't want to complain about the 3 hookers I picked up at Emperor but this girl was in a totally different league.
It seems to be the most natural thing in the world that almost ALL male hotel guests get female visitors and believe me fellow mongerers, I don't think these mostly asian guys spent a lot of time searching for them in the different clubs.
Now I understood the true meaning when the luggage guy who took me to my room asked me: Is there anything I can do for you?
That is the moment you have to take up the big issue. Later it will me much more embarrassing, there will always be 2 downstairs, often some girl.
Hope to get some feedback about this issue, either as a report or pm.
Music Club
03-10-09, 19:11
Thank you very much bro for the info
Hi there again,
I just got back from Yangon last week. Had a wonderful time (business and pleasure). It is good to be there again. I been travel back and forth for the last 2 years. Stayed at Grand Park Royal again. Not a bad place. 4 Star Hotel. The rate from travel agent is about US35 with breakfast for 2. Good value for money.
For those visiting Yangon the first time, this is where you should stay. Safe and secure enviroment (generally Yangon is a safe city. Ppl wears rolex and don't get robbed.) One of the few safe places around. If you stay at Grand Park, there is a Music Club at the basement. No cover charged for hotel guest. Look for Mr. Ricky, he is the Manager there. Nice and funny guy.
Since BME2 (another nite spot) has closed down, FYI, not openning again since they converting it to a swimming pool. Sigh. Sigh. Business at the Music Club has been good. Nice band and enviroment. Lots of girls to choose from but price might be high compared to outside. On going rate about 40, 000 kyats. Actually it is up to you. To bargain. BUT please do not spoil the on going market rate by paying too much. At most 50, 000 kyats. If service is good, give tips.
If you feel adventureous, you may go to Pioneer, at Yuzana Hotel, just opposite Grand Park. It is a local disco, with lots of teenager. But security wise, not like Grand Park. Just becareful while you enjoy.
Anyway, planning to travel there again in 3 weeks time. For those going soon, don't forget your umbrellas. Rainning daily.
Joe Tanaka
03-11-09, 08:11
Thank you very much bro for the infoNice to have new comer. Always feel free to contribute. Well, fyi, it has been a long long time since I last report. To be honest, nothing much to say. Except, Pioneer (opposite Yuzana Hotel) is no longer open. They have moved to the old premises of BME2. The New Pioneer has many youngsters. But I heard not so good crowd. Rowdy and common fights. So, to all those whose safety comes first. Then not to go.
My usual hang out is still same. Place. MC. (short for Music Club). Many new girls now. As for me, not so adventurous. Same girl. Nice young looking girl with me.
For those wondering where MC is, it is in Park Royal Hotel, located at the basement along Alan Phaya Road. Go early if you want to have more choice.
Saint Jack
03-19-09, 16:36
For those wondering where MC is, it is in Park Royal Hotel, located at the basement along Alan Phaya Road. Go early if you want to have more choice.
Hi Tanaka,
Does Park Royal Hotel charge joiner fee to bring girls in?
Have you or anyone been to JJ lately? I was told by a friend that there are quite nice chicks there at prices lower than what you mentioned or Asia Plaza which are about the same.
thanks,
SJ
Hi Tanaka,
Does Park Royal Hotel charge joiner fee to bring girls in?
Have you or anyone been to JJ lately? I was told by a friend that there are quite nice chicks there at prices lower than what you mentioned or Asia Plaza which are about the same.
thanks,
SJ
Park Royal is US$10 joiner - probably my least favourite hotel in Yangon.
"Have you or anyone been to JJ lately? I was told by a friend that there are quite nice chicks there at prices lower than what you mentioned or Asia Plaza which are about the same."
Yes... been there again and again...last time a few weeks ago. They still overcharge foreigners AFAIK but plenty of girls. Not sure abt bottom price I tend to give 40Ks up but no doubt many girls would go for half that price. used to pay that not so long ago.
Went twice to Asia plaza in the last few months anf found it even more lousy than the other usual haunts. As dirty but not even crowded.
Abt the girls ID card, when in yangon I stay in traders or Grand Myathia and girls don't need to leave their ID card at the reception, at least it avoids any headache to recover it in the morning. Still with all the UN staff and family tourists in Traders it's not the most comfortable place to bring girls of the night nowadays, especially if one is not sure of the girls' age.
Thanks Joe for the info abt Pioneer. I've kept a soft spot for BME2 and will be delighted to hit that ground again.
Munich1976
03-23-09, 20:53
After reading most of the reports there is still one question. It seems there are no problems to find a girl at nighttime, and there is no problem to take the girl into a (girlfriendly) hotel. But you can't go out with a girl on daytime, for example to a dinner or cinema, like in Thailand or phillipines? So you have to spend all the day alone?
Munich
If the girl agrees you can go out with her. I wouldn't do it but have seen a few foreigners who seem to be going out with their night catch, plus several expats live with burmese girls.
Massage places are also open in the afternoon, but indeed you might find your days in Yangon rather boring if you don't work.
After reading most of the reports there is still one question. It seems there are no problems to find a girl at nighttime, and there is no problem to take the girl into a (girlfriendly) hotel. But you can't go out with a girl on daytime, for example to a dinner or cinema, like in Thailand or phillipines? So you have to spend all the day alone?
Look at my posts from a couple of years ago. On my last trip I spent several days with a super-nice girl from AP. Days, nights, travel to Pathein, no problems.
My previous, very abbreviated, trip was much the same, so this wasn't a fluke.
After reading most of the reports there is still one question. It seems there are no problems to find a girl at nighttime, and there is no problem to take the girl into a (girlfriendly) hotel. But you can't go out with a girl on daytime, for example to a dinner or cinema, like in Thailand or phillipines? So you have to spend all the day alone?
This isn't Thailand ....
Possible to take a girl all day but don't expect to walk down the street holding hands ..
1) depends on her situation, many girls will want to leave 7-9am to go home.
2) THe nice smiles you get from the locals as you walk around will dry up if you're with a 'disco girl'.
If you want this, easiest is to get the girl to stay in your hotel (not all can/will) and only go to the p4p (or borderline p4p) venues in the evening.
I have a couple of girls I spend all day/night with when I'm there - one will only come out at night and the other has a long list of places she can't go 'in case someone sees her with a foreigner'.
Joe Tanaka
04-09-09, 05:09
Hi Tanaka,
Does Park Royal Hotel charge joiner fee to bring girls in?
Have you or anyone been to JJ lately? I was told by a friend that there are quite nice chicks there at prices lower than what you mentioned or Asia Plaza which are about the same.
thanks,
SJSJ, if you are a hotel guest of PR, then you are entitle to bring one guest for free. Otherwise, entrance charge is 6,000ks per pax. If you are hotel guest, make sure you check in a double room, if single, they will charge you. If you wanna get a good bargain, msg me, and I will intro my travel agent to you. You book thru them, no extra charge if bring your partner to the room. Otherwise, you pay USD10-00.
Saint Jack
04-18-09, 18:08
SJ, if you are a hotel guest of PR, then you are entitle to bring one guest for free. Otherwise, entrance charge is 6,000ks per pax. If you are hotel guest, make sure you check in a double room, if single, they will charge you. If you wanna get a good bargain, msg me, and I will intro my travel agent to you. You book thru them, no extra charge if bring your partner to the room. Otherwise, you pay USD10-00.
Hi Joe
Thanks for the information; I may try it next time around. Just came back from Yangon last week and been to JJ. Not a bad place at all; in my opinion probably have one of the best choice of chicks in town. 3,000 Kyats entrance fee with one drink, plenty of ladies and fashion show as usual.
SJ
thanks for the good advice at this board!
i spent a few days in yangon.
stayed at panorama hotel. 25$ superior room.
i changed room during the stay because the former guest at the first room must have been a heavy smoker.
you get about 15 power cuts a day, but the generator at panorama kicks in after 20 seconds.
in the first room the ac did not start up again, which made me wake up from the heat at nighttime power cuts.
at the second one the tv started up even if it had been turned off, took me until the last night to understand that i hadn't fallen asleep with the tv on.
the streets where crowded with generators.
first day i went around the corner to asia plaza. 5$ entry 1 beer on ticket.
the place had few customers. i sat down in the bar and the girls came to me at once. maybe 20-25 girls, but bad pickings. i saw only 2 doable.
picked a very pretty 20 years old, very thin, but she had a 2 year old kid. wanted 40$, and we settled for 30$. drank the beer and we walked back to panorama.
she did not have to give id in reception, she just stated her name. she was probably a regular guest at the hotel.
when we came to the room she took off my shoes, and i took a shower. then she went to the bathroom, came out wearing the towel, but still with her top on, and jumped quickly under the sheets.
i told/helped her remove her top, which she did but pulled the sheets up to her chin. i played with her breasts under the sheet, they were a bit wet so i turned up the ac because i thought she was sweating.
i pulled down the sheet, and turned her towards me. i thought her right breast, looked bigger than the left, but i blamed it at the angle she was in. i was surprised about how big and firm breasts she had for such a very thin girl.
her right breast looked like it was about to burst. i bent over and gave it a good squeeze. then it happened, one beam hit me between the eyes, one hit me on the chin, and the third went into the night. this girl was still breastfeeding her child. needless to say what my fetish were the rest of this night. i just couldn’t keep my hands off.
the sex was good this girl knew what she was doing, but after the first pop the wanted to go, she said she had to go home to her kid. maybe she was afraid she would run out of milk during the night. this behavior usually annoys me, but i had been up since 3:30, and done a lot of walking/drinking around town.
so instead of arguing, we agreed to have one more go at it, and then she could leave. she were happy again, did an even better job the second time. since she did no stay i limited the taxi/tip to 1$. bye bye.
second day i went to the palace. 3$ entry 2 beers (first cold beers i got in yangon). i did not see any other customers. same story, sat down in the bar, got crowded by 15 of the maybe 40 girls in the place. many good looking girls.
picked the smallest and cutest, easy choice. 18 years. no kids. asked for 30$. settled for 20$. made sure that her friend that were translating told her lt, and that she would get a 5$ tip/taxi if she did a good job until morning.
she changed clothes, i drank the beers, and taxi back to the hotel after 15 minutes in the place.
when i got her clothes of she had nice firm tits, and she were shaved? or not? she had just a few soft hairs, maybe she just had little growth, this girl by the way had curly and softer hair than what i am used to from thailand.
i had my best sex in years. we were both in the mood for a long foreplay. i did not last long when i finally entered. i cleaned up, went back to bed, and she went straight for my dick.
she was so wet and ready that i almost thought she had peed herself. great sex and i fell asleep like a baby when i had finished.
i woke up at 03:30, and was ready for a quick one. i just crept up to her, checked that she were awake, and took her from behind. i did not give her much chance to get in to it.
i cleaned up, went happy back to bed to sleep. but she had other plans, she just jumped me. i tried to explain that i was in no shape to go for another, but without a common language this was difficult. she managed to get me somehow going, but i knew i would not be able to finish what she had started.
i tried the "old man no power" in sign language, but that just made her flip me to my back and start riding me, she even reversed so i could get the full view of the action. we kept it up a long time, but in the end i just had to push her off.
we slept to 8:30, cuddled and i was ready for a last run. after cleaning up i did not dare to go in to bed again, i sat down in a chair. then she understood that it was time to go home. i gave her 27$ for an excellent performance.
after this marathon experience my dick was so sore that i had to rest from sex for 2 days. last day i went to emperor. 3$ entry 1 beer. while i walked up the street 2 truckloads of girls arrived, and while i was waiting for the elevator another crew arrived, i let them take the elevator, and waited for the next. it was hot waiting so i needed to clean up before i sat down, but it was a battle to fight through all the girls that "attacked" me on my way to the toilet.
when i got to the bar and got my beer i tried to turn the barstool to watch the scene. this was impossible, because i was squeezed in by about 20 girls. a waiter had to push them away so i could turn the stool. the place had quite a few guests, and i won't even try to guess the number of girls. but i was the only white guy in there.
of the 20 a couple tried to say some english words, but i mainly heard the word sleep. the rest where looking at me or touching me (blond hair on my arms fascinated them like it did in thailand 15 years ago).
well, i could not hang around here for long. same story as at the palace, picked the smallest/cutest 18 year old. 20$. possibly 5$ tip, but i got a little worried when i believed i saw her get her id-card from one of her friends. i must have asked her 20 times that she really was 18, and i made sure the hotel checked out the card before i took her to the room.
as we left emperor another truckload of girls arrived. one girl was prettier than the other. i also saw a couple of stunning indian looking girls. i regretted that i had been in a hurry to select a girl. i haven’t been close to see such a selection of available pretty girls in thailand.
this girl weighed in at 80 pounds. the tits were outlined, but not really there. she had a pretty small pussy/bush. the sex was nothing special, after foreplay the first time was ok, but she basically did nothing in bed. she were so tight that the only way i could enter her was to start out doggy style if i was taking her from behind, or make her ride me if i wanted to take her from the front. then i had to move her into position while entered. but 36 kilo is manageable.
this girl was very shy and polite, but she knew some english from school. when she left in the morning she dressed in traditional burmese clothes, an applied the yellow cream/powder to the chins that they all wear. she looked like a young student when she left with her backpack 25$ richer.
all in all what can i say about yangon?
the sexscene suited me fine. i'm not in to the go-go scene in thailand so i preferred yangon.
but other ways the infrastructure, food and the things to do thailand is superior. if it had been visa on arrival in myanmar i would have used the thai embassy in yangon for visa runs (great service, tourist visa delivery the next day), but the burmese visa process puts this off.
i therefore don't see myself returning in the near future.
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Thanks for the good advice at this board!
Great report Javel, visa on arrival is 'kind of' available in Yangon just not very convenient or cheap.
Javel
Thanks for the report! If you feel like going back to Yangon, next time you buy a plane ticket -in BKK at least-give the travel agent your passport and 2 ID pictures and they should be able to arrange you a visa for Myanmar. Next day service around 1500baht and no need to go to the embassy, my TA even sends passport and ticket to my office.
This forum has been quiet lately... Got back from Yangon recently and there've been a couple of changes, some following the swimming event around ASSK house. Called my travel agent in Bangkok to ask her to take care of my visa but was told I had to go myself to the embassy. Bummer.
It's almost on my way to the office in the morning so showed up at opening time and there were only a few people in there, the staff asked me a copy of my passport and to fill a form listing my current and former occupations than after he noticed I had a resident visa in Thailand asked for copies of my work permit. Another Bummer.
Showed up the next day and after the main staff had my work permit translated to him it must have appeared I had no malign intentions to the powers in place in Burma and he became friendlier. Indeed they could hang the american bloke who paid a visit to Su Kii or slice him in tiny bits in a Yangon public square I would still be sipping Myanmar beer blissfully in the Traders Executive Lounge.
This requirement is definetely not for everybody, some thai friends are still using an agent to get a visa. It might be only for foreigners or even that my agent is not the most resourceful.
In Yangon it feels like the low season, even with the UN squatting 5 floors of Traders, there were several suites available and there were much less western faces in the street than on my last trip. Met several french but they looked like expats, probably working for Total.
BME1 is closed and it looks more definitive than on my last trip as they even removed the sign on the main road. I went to the new Pioneer but too early and it was empty with lots of staff loitering in the parking lot, than got close to enter Emperor but couldn't cope with the filthy atmosphere and headed back to JJ, which is still my favourite nightspot in Yangon although also smelly dirty shithole. Brought a couple of girls to Traders and had a wild threesome.
Asked them to come back the next day at 6pm and they waited in my hotel room until I'd finished a disappointing dinner with some local partners in Planteur. Than we had another orgy and they were as happy as myself, although probably more because of the tip than the 5 holes session. They actually liked it so much one left me a gonnorhea as a souvenir. Sweet little thing.
Went also to Park Royal and it was busy with the usual mix of expat and visiting foreigners and hookers who look like they were already working in JJ or BME 5 to 10 years earlier.
Overalll a good time, let's not hope for a too fast path to democracy.
Muzungufotsy
06-15-09, 07:26
Any pics of these JJ girls?
What was the damage?
No pics, as usual in Burma the girls are rather ugly with horrendous skin, and even when they look young you don't know for how many years they have been involved in prostitution, actually one of those two girls I've known for a couple of years and I'm not convinced she's yet reached the age to enter depressing Bangkok FL nightclubs. Fun threesome anyway. I gave 50k each girl at each meeting (45USD) , but they would definetely have come for less.
It's been a while since I've posted here, mainly because when I go to Burma these days, I have a list of regulars that I choose from so there's no need for me to go searching at bars and clubs like I used to. These regulars know me pretty well by now and I usually negotiate with them a "long stay" price which hasn't changed much since I started seeing them all those years ago. And plus, seeing people you know can be nice as they know what you want, but then again it can be a bit dull at times ..
I did manage to do some scouting around Yangon just for interest sake and found that the cinema just around the corner from Panorama Hotel still attracts some street walkers, some of whom I've not seen before. Asking price for one I approached was 8000 kyat for a quickie. The venue of where the deed was to be done was unclear .. it sounded like some house close by rather than a short term hotel, but it wouldn't be hard to go to Mingala Hotel or MGM Hotel from the cinema area.
As I've mentioned in the past, the cinema venue is not for everyone .. you'll need to be able to negotiate place and price in Burmese as none of them I've come across can speak English. I can pretty easily pick out those who are working and those who are genuinely there to watch a movie. The workers would normally have their mamasan close by and usually have a little western make-up (typical Burmese girls don't usually wear make-up, except for their thanaka). Then eye contact, a smile and a wink usually confirms they're there not to watch movies. ;)
Muzungufotsy
08-14-09, 03:45
What s the recent news?
Member #1453
08-26-09, 00:37
I have not heard back from them. Ohter sites show USD30+ but I was there last time at $21. Any recent news? How are the massage ladies? Anybody get lucky with the counter girls this time? Do post please.
I have not heard back from them. Ohter sites show USD30+ but I was there last time at $21. Any recent news? How are the massage ladies? Anybody get lucky with the counter girls this time? Do post please.I would be in Yangon in September and was quoted $35 by a travel agent for a room with king beds - the same as quoted on their website.
However, I have got a better deal from the Park Royal @ $45 - it is a better hotel and have therefore booked it.
I would be in Yangon in September and was quoted $35 by a travel agent for a room with king beds - the same as quoted on their website.
However, I have got a better deal from the Park Royal @ $45 - it is a better hotel and have therefore booked it.
I assume the $35 was for a suite? Normal (superior) room is still around the low $20's mark.
Park Royal has a $10 joiner fee.
I assume the $35 was for a suite? Normal (superior) room is still around the low $20's mark.
Park Royal has a $10 joiner fee.No, the quote was for a Deluxe Room with king bed. This is the same price as quoted on the hotel website. I guess the agency was either padding the tariff or does not have access to agency discounts.
I booked the Park Royal from another agency at $ 45 and IMO would be a better accommodation even after considering the $ 10 joiner fee. BTW the entry to the Music Club is free for the guests. So some savings on the fee + taxi fares, negligible amount though.
The in-room safe, wireless internet and coffee maker was the deciding factors in favor of Park Royal.
Member #1453
09-03-09, 03:04
Panorama does not reply, and Agoda and Asia Room say Hotel is unavailable, so I don't know what is happening. Can someone on the ground verify please? Also, what I most liked about the place was the good service of the bell boys and the security guys who would find cute ones for me always, so I could avoid the club scene and the walk of shame when I chose too. The massage ladies from the front were also good source. (see my report from 2008) Now I need to look at other choices. Yuzana Garden I know was no good. Very unfriendly staff and quoting very high price the one time I stayed there. How about Eastern Hotel? Olympic Hotel or MGM Hotel? I know they are GF, but how friendly are their staff and how helpful? Any comments would be very appreciated. Bro Sakaundeh. Need your advise for alternative Hotel in jan.
Thanks
Get in touch with a company called Journeys. They booked me in to the Panorama a few years ago. Email them at [Email address deleted by Admin]. The website is www.journeysmyanmar.com. The woman I dealt with in 2007 was named Ya Min. Very helpful, They are based in Yangon.
Panorama does not reply, and Agoda and Asia Room say Hotel is unavailable, so I don't know what is happening. Can someone on the ground verify please? Also, what I most liked about the place was the good service of the bell boys and the security guys who would find cute ones for me always, so I could avoid the club scene and the walk of shame when I chose too. The massage ladies from the front were also good source. (see my report from 2008) Now I need to look at other choices. Yuzana Garden I know was no good. Very unfriendly staff and quoting very high price the one time I stayed there. How about Eastern Hotel? Olympic Hotel or MGM Hotel? I know they are GF, but how friendly are their staff and how helpful? Any comments would be very appreciated. Bro Sakaundeh. Need your advise for alternative Hotel in jan.
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Panorama does not reply, and Agoda and Asia Room say Hotel is unavailable, so I don't know what is happening. .... Need your advise for alternative Hotel in jan.
ThanksYou can try Mee Ya Hta Serviced Apartments - opposite the Traders and adjacent to the Bogyake Market
http://www.grandmeeyahta.com/facilities.htm
Single bed room apts with kitchenette @ $50 - bit expensive though, but a fine location, excellent facilities and GF. Had a chat with their Sales Manager two days ago.
Hi Sakaundeh,
Your posts have been really helpful. Do you know of any massage parlors that offer handjobs or nude massages? I met a mamma-san near the cinema and with some of my limited Burmese speaking, had her take me to a hole in the wall "beauty parlor" over by Sule Pagoda to receive a sexual massage. The problem is that the girls refused to take off their clothes (although they do allow fondling). The mama-san still wouldn't allow nudity even after I offered more money. The place was real dingy, and a mouse ran past my head during the massage. I am looking for something a little cleaner. I went to Grand Meeyatha (a place rumored to give "extras"), but after being there twice, I have yet to be offered anything other than a massage.
Any news on action up in Mandalay? I just lived there for a year, and the scene is practically non-existent.
Thanks for any leads.
It's been a while since I've posted here, mainly because when I go to Burma these days, I have a list of regulars that I choose from so there's no need for me to go searching at bars and clubs like I used to. These regulars know me pretty well by now and I usually negotiate with them a "long stay" price which hasn't changed much since I started seeing them all those years ago. And plus, seeing people you know can be nice as they know what you want, but then again it can be a bit dull at times ..
I did manage to do some scouting around Yangon just for interest sake and found that the cinema just around the corner from Panorama Hotel still attracts some street walkers, some of whom I've not seen before. Asking price for one I approached was 8000 kyat for a quickie. The venue of where the deed was to be done was unclear .. it sounded like some house close by rather than a short term hotel, but it wouldn't be hard to go to Mingala Hotel or MGM Hotel from the cinema area.
As I've mentioned in the past, the cinema venue is not for everyone .. you'll need to be able to negotiate place and price in Burmese as none of them I've come across can speak English. I can pretty easily pick out those who are working and those who are genuinely there to watch a movie. The workers would normally have their mamasan close by and usually have a little western make-up (typical Burmese girls don't usually wear make-up, except for their thanaka). Then eye contact, a smile and a wink usually confirms they're there not to watch movies. ;)
So I decided to go to back to the "Style Beauty Spa" on the 3rd floor of Grand Meeyahta for another massage to see if I could get any extras there. This time, I decided to just flat out ask the girl who was massaging me if she could provide any sexual services. The girl, after finally figuring out what I was trying to say, politely replied in pretty good English: "Oh, we don't do that here. Many people, even Burmese, come here thinking we do those things here. It is the massage parlor across the hall. I will bring you over after finishing this massage." She went on to give me an excellent "veggie" massage and indeed brought me over to the other massage place when we were through.
Before entering, I called my Burmese friend who lived there to come help translate for me. He arrived, and we were whisked away to a large, clean room with a shower. He asked the attendant what sexual services they provide and was told that they only give handjobs. He went to get a girl, and when she arrived, my friend asked her if she offered anything besides that. She said no and that the girls are scared of sexual diseases and only give handjobs these days. She was horrified when he asked about blowjobs. Even the male attendant was kind of taken aback.
I agreed, got undressed and haggled the price to 15000 kyats, in addition to the 10, 000 kyat oil massage. She was really sweet and flirtatious. I asked her if she would take her clothes off if she was given more money. She said no but said I can fondle her upper body lightly. After an hour oil massage, she began jerking me off. She asked how many minutes it would take for me to cum because her arm might get tired after 5 minutes. That kind of ruined the mood.
After finishing, she led me to the shower and washed me down. She kept her clothes on.
Each girl has a number assigned to them because they often change their working-girl names. She is #22, and I recommend her if you are looking for a no-frills handjob from a sweet girl.
While you addressed Sakaundeh ....
Grand Mee does have HJ, always been offered.
A few of the taxis drivers outside hotels can procure daytime action.
No great surprise a massage girl won't go nude, should allow some touching though.
Some (little!) action in Mandalay but need to be with a local (and prob pay for both!) Some bars near the railway tracks also with girls but never tried to take out.
Hi Sakaundeh,
Your posts have been really helpful. Do you know of any massage parlors that offer handjobs or nude massages? I met a mamma-san near the cinema and with some of my limited Burmese speaking, had her take me to a hole in the wall "beauty parlor" over by Sule Pagoda to receive a sexual massage. The problem is that the girls refused to take off their clothes (although they do allow fondling). The mama-san still wouldn't allow nudity even after I offered more money. The place was real dingy, and a mouse ran past my head during the massage. I am looking for something a little cleaner. I went to Grand Meeyatha (a place rumored to give "extras"), but after being there twice, I have yet to be offered anything other than a massage.
Any news on action up in Mandalay? I just lived there for a year, and the scene is practically non-existent.
Thanks for any leads.
Thanks, Mayday14. Much appreciated.
JasonBalmer
10-10-09, 12:26
Get in touch with a company called Journeys. They booked me in to the Panorama a few years ago. Email them at [Email address deleted by Admin]. The website is www.journeysmyanmar.com. The woman I dealt with in 2007 was named Ya Min. Very helpful, They are based in Yangon. I have just now secured reservations at Panorama (double suite for $35/night) using http://lastminutemyanmar.com/. Reasonably prompt reply (24 - 48 hours) and excellent English comprehension in the resulting e-mails. Although their office is in Yangon their mail server appears to be in Japan - perhaps part of their reliability. They have quite a few other hotels available thru their website.
Hope that's helpful to someone.
Panorama does not reply, and Agoda and Asia Room say Hotel is unavailable, so I don't know what is happening. Can someone on the ground verify please?
Thanks
Panorama has a new website.
http://www.panoramaygn.com/
They also have the e-mail address posted there, which I did not include to stay compliant with the board's rules. You might also try their fax.
Hi Sakaundeh,
Your posts have been really helpful. Do you know of any massage parlors that offer handjobs or nude massages? I met a mamma-san near the cinema and with some of my limited Burmese speaking, had her take me to a hole in the wall "beauty parlor" over by Sule Pagoda to receive a sexual massage.
Lu Gyi, my apologies for the late reply. I didn't see your post until today. There's a lady who offers massages under the bridge outside the Panorama Hotel (PM me for her name) who does handjobs. The staff at the Panorama Hotel know about her and she gets bookings from them to provide services for hotel guests in their rooms. I've had her a few times and she does an ok hand job, but if you want a real massage then forget it. She's got no idea! lol! This lady can also get you girls for full service as well, and one poster in the past has reported that she herself also provide full service, although quite frankly, I think there are better choices in Rangoon for your dick, than this lady. :)
There's also a number of massage places in the same building as JJ's in the Mingalar market area that I'm sure offers HJ's. I've never had a HJ there on site but I have had a massage girl from there and taken her back to my hotel for a massage that turned in to full FS. (oooops ..hahaha).
On the club scene, I did manage to visit Emperor again after a very long absence from this scene. It hasn't changed at all. Same deal as before, as soon as you pay your entrance money, hoards of girls will follow you to your seat and hang around you hoping for your business. I found a real cuty who was not only great company, but full on GF with great kissing and foreplay before doing the deed. It was one of the best experiences I've had in a long time in Rangoon and the foreplay and kissing was so natural that I automatically slipped my johnny into her in the heat of the moment forgetting to put the condom on.We both twigged soon after so, had to retreat to put the rain coat on before furthering to conclusion. (**see note below about wearing condoms.)
I had to use a short term hotel with this girl and she took me to some place not too far from Theingyi Ze in the west part of town which was showing porn movies in the room. Interestingly enough, she seemed quite uneasy with watching the porn movies and had me switch to a 'normal' channel before we laid in bed. LOL! (She seems like a really good girl, just out to make some money). When we left, she gave me her mamasan's phone number without me asking. She's definitely one whom I'll return to when I'm next in Rangoon so her number will come in handy.
Oh, and the asking price for long term seems to have gone up to 30,000 kyat now, but she only asked for 25,000 plus the usual 3000 kyat taxi money. Hope to have more reports about this girl on my next trip there around the New Year!
** Wearing a condom is important with these girls, not only to prevent the spread of disease but for unwanted pregnancies as well. Many of them are very simple girls and they don't use any form of contraception other than a condom. I know a few girls who got pregnant recently; one is still working at Theingyi Ze and I suspect she's trying to dupe some guys into thinking that they're the father, so becareful!
Brief business trip to Yangon or Rangoon or whatever the real name of the place is.
Thailand may be the 'LOS', but this is the 'LOSMGWTMMFDFA' - Land of sullen military goons with too many medals for doing fuck all.
Took a cab from the newish airport to the Parkroyal hotel, along roads that were desperately in need of a grading and new blacktop. The Parkroyal is resonable enough, 5 star pretensions, 3 star reality - Hampson Inn pricing.
In the basement is the music club, and an early evening foray into it revealled a Philipina cover band and about 20 girls for evey guy - the numbers evened up as the evening wore on, but were still on the side of the male gender!
I had had my fill of waif-like asians, and was looking for T & A. Fending of the shoulder rubs and crotch grabs, I went for MoiMa (or something like that). 34Ds, and built. If you ever go there - you will be able to pick her out of the crowd as easy as looking for the brotha at a Merle Haggard concert.
Up to the room, (a $10 add-on 'joiner fee' was applied), and she was all that I was looking for. Greek was the only thing she declined, and she did not have the ability to DT, but everything else was pretty decent. Got pretty comprehensively rimmed and sucked for about 30 minutes before pounding her in a variety of positions. She let me pull her hair (gently!) and spank her a little, before I straddled her chest and gave her a pretty good pearl necklace.
I am not into TLN, so I sent her on her way after a total of 90 minutes and two shots - Gave her $40, she grumbled a little for taxi money, but it was only 23-30, and we both new she was going back on the hunt downstairs!
So I will be in the area, doing sight seeing (the usual touristy stuff across the country) for 2 weeks. Any recommendation on whether it's possible to find a GFE for the duration of the trip and how? Don't really speak any Burmese - gringo all the way, so some English would be nice of course. Any thoughts?
Thanks
So I will be in the area, doing sight seeing (the usual touristy stuff across the country) for 2 weeks. Any recommendation on whether it's possible to find a GFE for the duration of the trip and how? Don't really speak any Burmese - gringo all the way, so some English would be nice of course. Any thoughts?
Thanks
It's very difficult to do, Bubblyjoe, especially if you intend to share a room together when travelling. Many of the hotels in the outback areas are not girlfriendly and furthermore, anyone, local or foreigner, staying at a hotel, must be registered with the local authorities. Consequently, alarm bells with ring if a foreigner is registered in the same room as a local. Even married couples (those who met their Myanmar wives overseas, marry them and return to visit) are given a hard time when travelling outside of Rangoon. Remember Burma is not Thailand and people are not free to do as they wish.
thanks, sakaundeh, for all the thorough information. it is very helpful.
my company sent me back up to mandalay last week, and since i was bored out of my mind while there, i decided to try and find any kind of mongering opportunities up that way. as luck would have it, i happened to meet a german guy who has been living in burma for years and who seems to be quite fluent in burmese language. i asked him what the scene was like up here, and he said that it certainly is not as good as in yangon, but there are things to do. after having some lunch, he hailed down one of those small blue taxis and told the driver that he wanted to be taken to some, as he said it in burmese: "ma-kaun-day mein-ma-dways" (bad girls). the taxi driver was great and knew right where to go. he drove us to a side street off of the main 26th street that goes along the moat and found a girl sitting on the side of the road with her motorbike. the driver told her what we wanted, and she said it would be 10, 000 kyats and that she would call a friend for me. i declined as i had wicked diarrhea and really was not in the mood for anything at the moment. she told the driver to meet her at a small hotel at the end of the street. when we arrived, my german friend went in while i waited in the tea shop next door with the driver. about 15 minutes later, my friend came out and recounted what took place:
he paid 3000 kyats for the room, 500 kyats for a condom, and had to pay the 10000 kyats up front to the girl. she wanted 15000 but he said no way because they agreed on 10000. she took off her clothes and began to play with his dick by rubbing it around her pubic hair. since he could speak burmese, he was able to talk with her, and she was pretty scared at first because she had never been with a non-burmese before. he said that the rest of the 15 minutes was pretty standard, except that she loved to be fingered. she became wet very quickly, and he actually had more fun playing with her clit and pussy then anything else. she lept up, threw on the condom and began to suck him off. he said he came right away. he went on to say that she was better than most girls he's been with in burma because she was a professional, adamant about using condoms, and was a freelancer who didn't have to answer to a pimp. he told me that anyone can just ask any taxi driver to be taken to a prostitute or sexy massage.
with regards to sex massage places, he said that he has checked out almost all the massage parlors and major hotel spas in mandalay and no one offers anything extra. he's been old that most burmese in mandalay don't have the disposable income to pay for handjobs or full-service massages. the bar at sedona has girls that you can take back to your hotel.
on the last night of my stay in mandalay, i was awoken at 2am by the sounds of 3 prostitutes right outside my door. they, and their 3 burmese costumers, were trying to open the door adjacent to mine. i looked out the peep hole of my door and saw that the group rented 2 rooms: one across the hall to hang out in and one next to mine to fuck. each guy took turns going into the fucking room and were done within 10 minutes. when the last couple left, i immediately opened my door and told her to stop by my room when she was free. i kept my door slightly ajar and within an hour, i heard the burmese guys leave without the girls. about 5 minutes later, the door opens, and one of the girls comes in. i offered her some drinks and food and told her to relax and watch some tv. she felt at ease and we tried talking with her very limited english. she pointed to the bed and jumped under the covers. she motioned for me to come and we laid together for a few minutes before i became really horny. i think she did too because she put her hands down my pants and began to give me a handjob while kissing my neck. i undid my pants and hers and began to play with her clit. i moved my hand down to play with her pussy and felt cum all over my hand! she pulled my hand away and motioned that it was sperm from her previous customer. all sorts of thoughts went through my head at this point like: "there was no way i was going to hit that for sloppy seconds", "she didn't use a condom? ! ", and "i got to get this cum off my hand! ". i asked her if she uses condoms, and she said no and proceeded to pull out of her pocket a packet of birth control pills and said, "don't worry. i use these. no problem. no disease." my stomach turned at this point and i was not really in the mood anymore to go any further. she asked what was wrong and said that she would give it to me for free because she wanted to. i told her to just give me a handjob. but god, it only went downhill from there. as she was jerking me off, she began to cry saying that she doesn't want to go back to her brothel. she is like a prisoner there and is only allowed to go out if a customer calls for her. i've heard this sob story before but her crying was what really made me feel bad. i told her to forget it and zipped myself up. i offered her some tea and told her to back to her room to sleep. a few seconds later, there was a knock at my door. another one of the girls showed up. she was beautiful! 19 years old, snow white skin, half chinese half shan, wearing hot pants, and with nice breasts. i invited her in and gave her some food and drink. the 3 of us had a nice time talking for about an hour. the first girl left to go back to her room to sleep, but this hot, young girl stayed behind and asked me to hold her while we laid in bed. it felt really good to have some nice human contact like that as we held each other and watched movies. very girlfriend experience like. she played with all parts of my body and even undid her pants so "she could be more comfortable". i took this as a sign that more was to come and sure enough, she began kissing my neck. i so much wanted to have sex with her, but it was 6am, and i was exhausted! i tried everything i could think of to get my dick up and going, but i barely had the energy to stay awake. she said it was ok, and said something about me having respect for her. i wish i was that kind for that to be the real reason! so we fell asleep in each other's arms while she continued to kiss me in traditional burmese way: putting her cheek to mine while inhaling as if she was smelling something. she alternated it with light french kissing, or as she put it, "american movie style kissing."
their pimp came to pick them up at 8am, and she gave me a long, hard kiss and looked into my eyes and told me to call her. they looked extremely depressed to be leaving. they gave me their phone numbers and told me to "hire" them next time i am in mandalay. but i don't know. it seems like they have too much baggage and are good at weaving their webs of seduction, not to mention the whole thing of not using condoms!
i think next time i'm in mandalay i'll head over to that side street to pick up one of those freelancers for a no-strings attached fuck as i would have with those 141 girls in other parts of asia.
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Sorry, one more thing, Sakaundeh. I'll be here in Yangon for quite a while and won't be able to subscribe to this forum granting me access to PM people (all my credit cards are expired). If you feel comfortable about it, can you please PM me the mamasan's number in Yangon that you mentioned in your posting or of one you tend to use often? I think my Burmese is getting good enough for me to tell her what I want. I'd be happy to pass along to you the mamasan's number in Mandalay of those girls I hung out with in the hotel room. I can also give you the name of that sexy Chinese/shan girl!
Sorry, one more thing, Sakaundeh. I'll be here in Yangon for quite a while and won't be able to subscribe to this forum granting me access to PM people (all my credit cards are expired). If you feel comfortable about it, can you please PM me the mamasan's number in Yangon that you mentioned in your posting or of one you tend to use often?
Lu Gyi, the best way to meet these girls is to go to Emperor club at Theingyi Ze. And if they like you, they will give you their phone numbers.. that shouldn't be a problem. Best of luck with that. My apologies for not sharing it here, but I can't post their numbers in public.. we do have to respect their privacy, especially in a place like Burma. I hope you understand. :)
BTW, I tried to PM you but your PM doesn't work.
I totally understand, Sakaundeh. No worries. I guess my PM doesn't work because I have not paid for a subscription yet. But I'll head over to Emperor Club or the Park Royal. The Problem is that I'm just not that into having to go out and "wheel and deal" for a girl in a club and bringing her home. It's a combination of laziness and being spoiled by the ease of "141 sex" during my long periods spent in Macau, HK, and China. I hardly ever do long-stay or over-nights with girls because I like a nice 60 minute session where each of us knows our parts, there is nothing more to it than a business transaction and I can get some sleep. Also, I'm a sucker for a pretty face and a sob story and am still way too easily charmed by a good professional girls' sexual charms! The longer I stay with a girl, the easier it is to break me down before I begin letting her raid my mini-bar and offer her extra money for her sick brother. [I used to be the kind of guy who believed a stripper when she said she liked me. ]
I have to head up to Mandalay again next week (uugghhh.). I'll make sure to report back on any action I have up there.
So I had to go back up to Mandalay this week for work, and as promised, here are a couple of reports from some action I was able to find up there.
Because other employees from my company were staying at the same hotel as me, I didn't think it wise to invite girls back to my room. So one afternoon, I headed back over to those side streets off of 26th street (68th, 69th, 70th, etc.) to try my luck at finding that girl my German friend got with last week. I saw her take off with a costumer. There were some other girls standing there about 20 feet apart from each other, but they looked pretty unsavory. But within minutes, they too were picked up by passerbyers. I rode my bike around the neighborhood and stopped by 15 minutes later to see the girl standing there, but before I could ride over to her, another customer came and went off with her. I decided to just go back home and try again another day.
I got back to my hotel and was still really horny so I called the number of a mama-san that I got from those girls who visited my hotel room last week. Using the limited Burmese my company forced me to learn, I still was not able to convey to her what I wanted. She hung up on me twice, but called back about 15 minutes later sounding much happier. She said the girls explained to her who I was. She set up a meeting with me with that Shan/Chinese girl, and said they would send someone over on a motorbike to pick me up. I waited downstairs for them, but they were over an hour late. I was pretty annoyed and was thinking of calling the whole thing off but figured to go ahead since I came this far. The girl finally arrived but along with a whole posse of girls. They said that none of them had ever spoken with a non-Burmese Western guy before and wanted to meet me. What a scene that was in the hotel lobby! 6 girls all standing around yapping my ear off, and I just wanted to get out of there before my boss and other co-workers saw me. We took off and arrived at a hotel they said allows foreigners and girls to stay in the same room. Well, they were wrong, and we had to find another place to go. They called their mama-san who called ahead to another hotel down the street. I was hot, sweaty and thoroughly annoyed at this point. I should have just gone back home and called it a night.
We finally get settled in the hotel. I was still in a foul mood, but I eventually came out of it after having some dinner. We laid in bed for awhile and she was a little scared because I had been so quiet and grumpy early on. She kept saying I didn't like her anymore (ugghhh! I don't want this kind of drama. I already have a girlfriend who gives me this kind of crap.) I told her I felt better and was ready to get started. She jumps up, goes to the bathroom, takes off her clothes and comes out in a towel that she refuses to take off until she is safely under the covers. She then just lays there. Pretty typical of Burmese girls.- very hands-on and affectionate until sex comes and they magically transform into starfish. Whatever, I took my time and went slowly at first to put her at ease. She quickly opened up, and we had a pretty standard session. But god, her pussy smelled terrible! I mean it almost made me gag! I told her it was time for her to go, but she wanted to stay the night and get some sleep. I agreed only because I thought I could have at least one more session in the morning. She soon realized how bad she smelled and took a shower.
At 5am, I awoke to find our legs intertwined and my hand on her pussy. I began to pet it slightly and she began to moan and get wet. What followed was a much better session than the previous one. Because it happened more naturally, she was more comfortable, and I was surprised to see her sucking on my neck until she gave me a hickey. But the sex was still kind of boring due to her overall inexperience. She had no idea what to do with my dick. She kept grabbing it and playing with it like it was a joy-stick from a flight-simulation video game; pressing on the tip of my penis and moving it from side to side. I flipped her over onto her stomach and finished while holding onto her small little 19 year old ass. (I have to agree with what Teacup wrote in his last entry, though. I think I'll go for a 'meatier' girl next time).
Her mama-san called at 6:30am to say she was in the lobby and that it was time to go. I walked her downstairs, which she was happily surprised at since she thought I would be embarrassed to be seen with her. I met the mama-san and her husband.- a young 27 year old couple who told me they just started this little venture and have about 10 girls under their care.
Damage: 40, 000 kyat to mama-san for "finder's fee" (paid in advance), and 15, 000 kyat to the girl.
The girl called my mobile a few days afterwards to see if I wanted to have another session. I politely declined. If I do call that mama-san again, I'll ask her to send me someone who might have some more experience.
A few days later, I rented a bicycle and biked around the moat. I went down one of the side streets I visited previously with that German guy a couple weeks ago. I found that same girl he hired, but she was already negotiating with a customer. They took off in his car while I sat at a tea shop and waited. As soon as she came back 15 minutes later, however, another guy was already queued up and before I can get over there they go off. There were 2 other girls standing there, but they had an outwardly dirty appearance and one looked a little crazy. None of the other guys were going near them either. I came back later and she was available. We went to the same guesthouse my German friend went to, and overall, this was a much better experience than I had with the girl at the hotel. This woman was not nearly as attractive, but she made up for it in her experience. She gave me a catbath, licked and sucked on my balls and shaft while putting the condom on the tip of my dick, went on to cowgirl, complained I was taking too long and that she had costumers waiting, I did a little DATY which seemed to really please her because she stopped complaining about the time and held my head firmly in place, and I finished in mish. We both laid there for a little bit and went off our separate ways. I probably won't return to her either. Too much work for too little reward. I'll wait until I get back to Yangon.
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So a few days after getting back to yangon, that shan/Chinese girl from Mandalay calls me on my mobile phone to say she is back in yangon for the next few months visiting her family and wanted to know if I wanted to hang out. I was hesitant until she said I could have all the sex I wanted for free. I had to leave yangon in a few days, so I thought, "what the hell, " and told her to come on over. She arrived and after a little bit of chit chat we had a great session with lots of chemistry. I introduced her to all sorts of new things, like DATY, cowgirl, and other things. She really enjoyed it and wanted to experiment some more right away. The only thing she wouldn't do was suck my dick for she said that to do so would make her no longer a true Burmese woman.
She told her family she was staying with a friend and spent the next 2 nights at my place. We spent 3 whole days together, and I came to realize a few things: 1) the whole girlfriend experience is not all that it's cracked up to B. Sure, all the times we had sex were fantastic, and she never once said no (so long as I kept buying her little presents and treating her to expensive meals), and it was nice to not feel so alone and to have a warm body in bed next to me who loved to spoon throughout the night, but spending that many hours with someone I have very little in common with and not speaking the language fluently was downright tortuous at times. And because she is only 19 years old, I really felt as if we were worlds apart. 2) things get complicated real quick. She starts saying she loves me and takes a bunch of pictures of me to show her family and friends. Her sister calls my mobile (! ) and tells me not to make things complicated with her sister. She then talks with her sister to tell her not to believe a word I say because I just want sex. I told her that her sister actually gave some pretty good advice.
Before I left Yangon, she said that she had decided to quit working as a prostitute and that she will wait for me and wondered if I could support her with some monthly allowance. Not sure how sincere she was, but I have lots of friends who fell for this line only to find that when they returned, their women were back to their old jobs. I really want to believe that this girl is sincere, but I think it best to cut all ties before things get really crazy, especially since my girlfriend just got a job in Bangkok and will be visiting me in Yangon every weekend!
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I totally understand, Sakaundeh. No worries. I guess my PM doesn't work because I have not paid for a subscription yet. But I'll head over to Emperor Club or the Park Royal. The Problem is that I'm just not that into having to go out and "wheel and deal" for a girl in a club and bringing her home.... <snip>
Found the girls in JJ's much more amenable (than say Emperor or Asia Plaza) to short time and finding a nearby hotel for the deed (you're probably not saving any money by doing this though). No real 'Wheeling & dealing' necessary ...
EDIT: Forgot to thank you for a couple of great reports on Mandalay!
I'm glad you enjoyed the reports, Mayday. I need to amend one of my previous reports about the girl who spent 3 days with me in Yangon. I learned that it wasn't her older sister who called me on my mobile, but rather her Mandalay mama-san (I misunderstood a lot of the burmese/english conversation i had with her but was lucky to have a friend translate for me later on). When the mama-san heard that her girl was quitting the business in hopes of being supported by me, the mama-san didn't want to risk losing one of her best girls so called me to say that the girl wanted nothing but sex from me and to stay away from her because she has HIV/AIDS. When I told the mama-san that I was leaving burma and was not interested in the girl, she then told me not to worry about the HIV/AIDS part because it may not be true.
Pretty fucked up, huh? Way too much drama for me. I don't think I'll give out my mobile number to a girl in burma again!
The next day, the mama-san called me to say sorry for all the trouble she caused me and that she was sending over one of her best girls. I was about to head up to Myitkyina early the next morning and wanted to get some sleep, but i just had to see what was so special about this girl. Well, I'm sorry to report that there was nothing special about her at all. Nothing worth reporting, at least. Well, she did have a shaved pussy, but that's about it. Pretty boring session.
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My last visit in Yangon was 3 jears ago.
Where are the places now to meet the "servicegirls"?
What is the price for overnight now?
Traders Hotel is girlfriendly same as before?
Hi Liggi,
I would use the search function to read reports by people like Sakaundeh and Mayday14. They provide lots of useful information that you are looking for.
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On another note, just wanted to share with you all how blown away I was by the mongering experiences I had in Eastern Europe this past week. I will report soon in the appropriate country sections, but after only mongering in Asia for the past 5 years and never having the opportunity to monger with non-Asian women, this trip to Eastern Europe was definitely a memorable experience. I had gotten used to the petite and oftentimes shy and inexperienced women of Asia that when I first started fucking these European women with large tits and asses and who were completely skilled in all things sexual, I had to keep myself from cumming in under 5 minutes! I can't wait to get back there. It's going to be tough mongering here in Asia again :(
Old German
12-21-09, 18:47
I will come to Rangoon at 8 of January and stay there for 3 days. Can anybody tell me about the currently exchange rate dollar/kyat? Where i can get the best rate?
I will stay in the Park Royal Hotel. If anyone is there at same time, maybe we can visit the relevant bars and clubs together. Please PM me, if anyone is interested.
Rtw Monger
12-23-09, 19:58
Here is the best place to see market rate. This website is published by expats in Bangkok:
http://www.irrawaddy.org/
Recently returned from 6 days in RGN. Stayed at Panorama ($27 per night booked through Sun travel). Panorama, along with Traders, has excellent location. Exchange rate at the Bogyoke market was $1 = 9800k. Beware street touts who offer more, it will definitely be a rip-off attempt. Never got ripped off in the market. One of the bell boys at Panorama (he had 'Je' as part of his name) arranged for girls to come to my room, paid 30000k (all night, or a couple of hours daytime). Ask him to bring you 4/5 so you have a selection, give a few thousand kyat to the 'rejects' for taxi. I always found one I liked, and I am picky. Tried JJs and Asia Plaza clubs, was not impressed.I don't recommend the Burmese style 'model show' clubs unless you speak Burmese or have a guide who does. Emperor Club was good : downmarket, but fun, plenty of young, good looking girls, 30000k all night. They approach and surround you straight away, no communication problems, and they soon move on to be replaced by others if you don't show interest.Emperor is best early, 7-8 pm. It's very dark in there, and I suspect naughty things can go on in your seat if you want it! The Music Bar at the Parkroyal Hotel had the classiest girls, well dressed, all could speak English, easy to click with them, all a 'sensible' age (18+). However they wanted more money : the ones I had wanted 40000k and 50000k, short time. They were very beautiful, though. Go after 9pm. Saw no sign at all of any street action, and I did quite a lot of wandering around. I get the impression that the fun you have in RGN depends heavily on the level of police crackdowns at the time of your visit.
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Sorry, of course I meant $1=980k!
I had planned to stay at the Panorama next week but they can't promise a double bed only a twin so I would be gratefull for any suggestions fo a GF friendly hotel in central Yangon
Thanks
Asia Hotel as cheap hotel or
Traders Hotel expensive
Hi everybody,
I recently discovered this board and have been reading hundreds of reports. So much useful info it's hard to take it all in, hope I'm not repeating too much here. I'm a newbie as far as Burma goes.
What's the situation now with the government, UN, NGOs, etc, as far as mongering goes? Have the government got more intrusive in our activities? Are girls more likely to get into trouble? Mongers?
Do you find the government's keen interest in foreigners intimidating? I read on regular tourism sites that if you talk to a Burmese person for more than 5 minutes they get interested. That implies they're watching much of the time. Is that true? Or does all of that go away as soon as you're in a club or a MP?
How about the UN and the NGOs? I'm sure some ways it's good to have them there, but to be honest the idea of a whole pack of international monitoring agencies watching my every move makes me a little nervous. Or did they get kicked out again by now? I read here that they were occupying a big chunk of one of the popular hotels in Yangon. Are they still present in the numbers they were soon after Nargis?
Is it possible to avoid putting a lot of money in the hands of the government? Are there any decent hotels that aren't in their control?
Butzelmann
01-02-10, 00:44
Asia Hotel as cheap hotel or Traders Hotel expensiveDid you mean "ASIA PLAZA HOTEL" (http://asiaplazahotel.com/)?
Thanks, Buz
€Buz
Yes, this I mean. In the basement is a disco with many ladies.
I have flight booking for the 07. January but the Visa no come.
I send the application on 22. December to Magado Travel for Visa on arrival and paid 25 US $, but Visa no come until today. They offer the Visa make in 7 to 10 days but today 13. days.
Have somebody also problems with Magado Travel in Yangon?
The Visa come now.Glad, The Visa come now. So now you can CUM in rangoon, and after you have CUM, please stick a report here, for us to enjoy reading.
Know somebody the rate for US $ and Euro?
Member #1453
01-06-10, 02:17
Anyone at the Panorama Jan 7-21?
Are the massage ladies still active?
I have lost count on the number of times I have been to Thailand since 1990. Always thought it would be a convenient place to monger - good tourist infrastructure, cheap booze and lots of available girls, not to speak of convenient flight connections.
The last 4-5 years has seen a sea of change in Thailand - while the tourism infrastructure and flight connections have improved, the booze is no longer cheap and the girls have developed an attitude to match. Scams apart, barfines are unrealistic and the girls demand two times as much. Blame this on inflation!! Thailand has also become a very dangerous place to live in or visit. My last visit was a week in July 09 and shall be my last - except for a couple of hours in transit in the future.
I have been contemplating visiting Phillipines, Cambodia or Myanmar since the last two years as an alternative. Thanks to fellow forum members who have posted on this section, I could plan my trip to Myanmar and be there during the last week of September.
Getting there was a real pain, long flights, extremely long transit times and not to mention the documentation and scrutiny involved in getting a Myanmar tourist visa [FIT] from my home country. However, on arrival, the friendliness of the Burmese people made it all worth the trouble.
Checked into the hotel - it was a serviced apartment adjacent to the Scott market that I had prebooked, called my guide/translator to meet me in an hour, and then got ready to hit the street.
The first task was to exchange currency the rate of the day was 1080 Kyat/$. Stashed the pile of currency in the room safe, opened a bottle of single malt that I had bought from the Duty Free on the way in and waited for my guide. On his arrival at 5pm, we hit the streets and bought a SIM for my phone. Black market price 26,000 Kyat - $5 more than the official $20 price. Validity one month - call charges international $1.50/min, local $ 0.35/min and all incoming at $0.05/min. No top-up permitted. In effect, the number is valid till you have used up $20 or one month, which ever is earlier.
My guide then took me to a regular massage parlour, no sex permited on or off premises with the girls. Beautiful girls [would have loved to bonk them], one hour of a so-so massage, nothing to rave about, the damages were $6 [for me and my guide] plus $2 as tips, the time was right to hit the night spots. Having read about the reviews of Emperor, that was our first port of call.
7.30 pm we were the first customers, about 20-30 girls and the numbers increasing by very passing minute. The first complimentary drinks [small can of beer] on the entrance ticket [3000 Kyat] was served while we slowly soaked in the atmosphere. By 8.30, the disco was in full swing but there were hardly any customers - maybe a dozen or so, the girls numbering over a 100. As soon as you enter, all girls flock to you, trying to get your attention with the hope you would take them for the night. The more clingy ones will hang on to your arms and sit beside you to give you company. Nice feeling of being pulled and tugged in different directions as you enter. No concept of bar fines or lady drinks - although a second large bottle of beer will set you back by $3.
It was such a refreshing change from the bars in Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket. The girls never ever ask for lady drinks - one even declined when I offered her a drink, they will give you company while you sit and enjoy and they never mind if you dont take someone else out for the night. Sweet little things. Absolutely no pressure.
I had checked that the current going rates was anything between $25 and $30 to take a girl out for the full night.
One of the girls clinging to my arms was a sweet girl and I had decided to take her out - so at 9 pm before the fashion show started [more on this later] I asked her how much she wanted to which she replied 30,000 Kyat - fine, off we go to the hotel in a taxi. I never bargain a price with the girls - if the price suits me that is fine otherwise I look around some more.
At the hotel, I ordered room service for the girl, who then showered, ate and relaxed on the sofa in front of the TV. I note that all girls in Yangon are also TV addicts like that of their Thai sisters more so because they either dont have a TV at home or electricity intermittent, so the 42 inch LCD was irresistable :)
She snuggled up close, fondled me and gave a decent hand job. Burmese girls rarely give a blow job - never got one on all the days I was there, may be the more hard core ones would have done it. Time to move on to the bed, very tight pussy and firm breasts, a good time at sex, cleanup and then snuggled close holding me tightly through the night.
Did it a couple more times before day break, whenever I had a hard on, the girl was very accomodating and seemed to love the sessions.
Here are some pics, sorry for the quality as battery power was low and no flash.
Morning at 6 am, she was very happy when I gave her 30,000 K [$27] plus 5000 K for the taxi home.
End of day 1 - more to continue
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Day 2
My second day morning in Yangon was spent trawling the Bogayke Road between the Asia Plaza and the Trader's hotel to locate some possibilities of day time activity near the cinema halls as reported by members of the forum.
Started around 11 am - quite crowded at that time, found the street side massage joints under the bridge in front of the Panorama Hotel. Apparently the masseur would offer girls discretely who would then be brought up to your room. This has been reported earlier, but I gave it a miss as at the back of my mind I felt the girls at the Emperor would have been much easier to pick with less hassles.
Sauntered along the road towards the cinema halls where some members had reported picking up street walkers for short time action in nearby ST hotels/homes for $5. I sat down at a roadside stall for a snack and found quite a number of girls that were up for picking. However, they were pretty rough and seemed hardcore, much to my dislike. I was sure my hotel security would not allow the riff raff in.
My hotel security guys were top notch - they very discretely collected ID from the girls that came with me, and on several occasions even escorted the girl all the way up to my room on the 10th floor when they came in alone. Similarly, on the way out, they hailed taxis from the main road in the early morning hours for the girls, as the hotel a pretty long driveway and very large parking lot.
Come evening, it was Emperor once again. I pretty much liked the place and felt very much at home. With the extremely large selection of girls I did not feel the urge to try out a new place, although I did go to the JJ one evening - didn't like it - wrong vibes. Later on that.
Every club has a disco going full blast by 8.30pm with local and Indian song numbers inter spread with one hour of "fashion shows". You will always have a male bouncer [there are dozens of them] standing between the girls and the men - apparently they cant dance together, unless the girl is with you. This is nice, as it tends to keep fist fights and drunken brawls at the minimum.
Most of the fashion show girls keep hopping from club to club, being paid by their managements for the show. Some of the girls are their full time staffers - hostesses, who do the catwalk wearing standard but sexy dresses, nothing revealing. What I understand is that some don't go out at all, while some do, albeit on their terms of remuneration. There is a counter with garlands [paper/synthetic] that patrons can buy at prices of 5000 Kyat wherein an attendant would walk over and present the garland to the girl while the show continued. The girl gets half of the amount at the end of the shift - this explains why some of them don't go out. I found most of the show girls snotty and uptight and was sure you would not get a good service in bed when you agree to their terms. However, one show girl/hostess was very different and my eyes were on her when she did the catwalk.
The girl of the previous night had left her compact in my room. The rouge was depleted, so I decided to buy a new compact and present it to her that evening. On arrival, I was surrounded by at least a dozen girls, including the one who was with me the previous night. When I gave her old compact and the new one, the effect was hilarious. She clung to my neck, kissing me, then went around showing the new compact, whereby all her friends parked themselves on the sofas around me, put my arms around them and several of them at a time taking turns pressing my thighs, arms and ruffling my hair and kissing me on my cheek. What a wonderful time being surrounded by these eager and playful girls :D
I explained to my girl that today was my last night in Yangon before I traveled up-country for a week and that I was interested in taking a new girl tonight. I could see her disappointment, but she cheerfully accepted the situation.
The show girl I was eying had just completed her routine, I called her over to come and sit, offering her a drink, which she declined. The usual small talk and then asked her if she could accompany me. She said she was a staffer and couldn't leave till 12 midnight - fair enough, I asked her if she could make it next week on my return to Yangon to which she replied it was not certain if she could get a day off. She also excused herself as she couldn't sit with me any longer since she was to welcome guests at the door. This was a disappointment, I nursed my drink looking for some other alternatives. I had given up on her, and how wrong was, I later found out. This girl clung to me for the rest of my trip and was very difficult to shake her off :p - that part for later.
It was 10 pm and I was weighing my options of taking a new girl or the same one I had the night before, that was tried and tested to my satisfaction. Never know how a new girl would turn out! The show girl/hostess comes and then informs me that she can go out with me after 10.30, permission by the management granted - great! I had not asked her how much she wanted for the night, I guessed it would be slightly more expensive than the previous night, nevertheless gave 3000 Kyat asking her to have a bite at the road side curry vendor in front of the Emperor before we left.
What a night it was! Uninhibited sex, true GFE, her pussy was dripping wet. Seems that she rarely went out due to her job at the club - well it was my advantage.
In the morning, she gave me her phone number, took mine, and asked if she could come to see me next week. I told her yes, she could call me and come down in the afternoon. She insisted that I go with her and visit her home and her family - I postponed her request till I returned from the up-country visit. Since I had not fixed a remuneration earlier, I thought I would give her 30,000 Kyat [$27] + 2000 for the taxi and maybe 5000 more if she was not happy with the money received. To my surprise, she gladly accepted 32,000 Kyat hugging and kissing me in the process. I was relieved. In a sense, if you treat the girl well, they will go the extra mile for you.
My flight to the Shan state was at 10 am - got ready, packed and checked out of the hotel.
End of day 2.
More to continue.
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Old German
01-12-10, 06:53
Apparently Meeone didn't read the warnings in earlier reports here about posting of fotos of girls in Myanmar. So I could only repeat, that fotos of Myanmar girls should posted only with hidden face because their security.
Old German
01-12-10, 08:28
I spend 3 days in past week in Yangon. I came from Bangkok and used Air Asia. I booked 3 month before and paid roundabout 5. 400 Baht for both flights (roundabout 110 Euro or 160 $). I have been there the second time and I took now much more time to visit the city and the incredible Pagodas. Especially the unique Shwedagon Pagoda – and all the golden Buddhas and other Monuments.
My Hotel was the Parkroyal Hotel, I booked this hotel by Hotelclub.net and paid 42 Euro per night. Other providers wanted more. I can recommend to stay there, because the rooms are very big and nice, there is a big swimming pool and the service is o. K. And its nearby are the most discos and bars, but the hotel has also an own Music club. The hotel is girlfriendly, I never had a problem to bring a girl with. Extra costs for the girls haven't been requested. The girl has to leave her identity card at the reception. When she leaves the hotel, the staffs are calling you, if all have been alright. So you are very secure. The only negative thing is, when you are coming with a girl not so late in the evening to the reception other hotel guests see you. So it could be a real walk of shame.
First evening I went to the music club in the hotel. At 9 pm a Philippino band was playing well known pop and rockmusic, loud, but not terrible loud. At this time I noticed roundabout 40 or 50 girls and any foreigners. I wandered around and finally I saw an interesting lady. She was apparently not a Burmese, but more a Chinese. I took place at her side and we began to talk. She told me, that her father has been a Chinese, but she is living in Yangon and working in a beauty salon. Her age was in the end of 20th, not really slim, but with a womanly figure and much bigger breasts as the Burmese girls. I paid a drink for her and we continued talking. Her English was naturally not the best, but enough for simple conversation. After some minutes I asked her, if she would like to spend the night with me. Naturally she wanted. As I asked about the prize, she said: "up to you". A good sign. I heard before, that the girls asking for 50 $ for short time and 70 $ and more for the full night. And it would be difficult to pay less.
So we did the procedure with her ID card at the reception and went to my room. She wasn't all too much shy and we took shower together and began an exciting foreplay in the bathroom. She loved DFK, so we did it long and intensive, first in the bathroom, then on the big bed. She was a very affectionate lady. But her oral skills have been under average. The sex was good and passionate. After 2 rounds we get tired and slept till 8 am in the morning. Then we had round 3. I gave her 50 $, because I had a really good night with her.
Second evening I went after 8 pm to Emperor in the Shwedagon Pagoda road. I paid 3. 000 Kyat for entrance (one beer included) and was immediately surrounded by any girls. The most have been very young, small-sized and slim. I saw some who had sure under 35 kg. Finally I took a 20 years old Burmese girl to my hotel. She was also slim and small, but with an interesting face. We agreed before about 30. 000 Kyat for the night. In my room we didn't use the shower, but she began to fill the bathtub with water. As it has been full, we entered together and began our play. She gave me an incredible good BBBJ in the bathtub and I got very excited. Later it was difficult to penetrate her, because she was so tight. Only in Cowboy position I had success. She was moaning a little and I fucked her not so hard, because I had fear I could hurt her too much. The sex was o. K., but nothing special. Because I had been very tired in this night, I resigned for round 2 and let her go.
In the third evening I went again to the Music club in the hotel before 9 pm Also at last Saturday many girls have been there. After looking around I contacted a little smaller and pretty Burmese girl, also with a little more breasts than usual. She wanted also 50 $ for the whole night. Lower offers from me she didn't accept. Finally I took her, because she looked really lovely. She was a great kisser, but shy in BBBJ, so I had to teach her. Later it become better. I had 2 rounds with her in the late evening till midnight and one after awaking as a morning sport. The sex was pretty good, surely not one of the best one, but really satisfying.
Finally an advice about a restaurant: I went 2 times to the Golden Duck restaurant in the Strand road. It's a very simple restaurant, but the food is very good. One time I had a mixed Chinese food under 3. 000 Kyat, the other time a very big half duck for 4. 700 Kyat.
And at last about the taxi drivers: When I tried to get an taxi directly at the hotel, they wanted mostly the double as usual. So I ever stopped a taxi on the street and told the driver my destination. You should pay for the shorter distances in the inner of the town between 1. 000 and 1. 500 Kyat, but never more.
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I just come back from Yangon, I spent there 3 days in the Traders Hotel.
I visites the Asia Plaza, The Palace, the Emperor and Parkroyal Diskos.
The best places now are the Emperor ! and Parkroyal. But Emperor the number one ! Rates for LT 25.000 or 30.000 Kyat.
Rate for US was on the 9th of january 1000,- Kyat and for Euro 1440 Kyat.
@Old German
I think we have been same time in the Parkroyal Music Club on Saturday the 09. January!
I sit on the Bar with a girl from Emperor and my German friend. I left with my girl around 11 p.m.
Lu Gyi, I automatically slipped my johnny into her in the heat of the moment forgetting to put the condom on.We both twigged soon after so, had to retreat to put the rain coat on before furthering to conclusion. (**see note below about wearing condoms.)
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Hi there!
I also have a time to visit and bring some girls from Emperor back to my room and have sex that I also forgot to put condom and I pull out before ejaculation. this happened last nov. still worrie if this will put risk for getting HIV?
Is anyone out there can give some idea if this way will get you in having HIV. I understand the girl in Myanmar have not cautiouned themself unlike other country about the awareness to put condom before sex. I know this action of mine is incorrect and really still frecking out till now.
MD
"She was also slim and small, but with an interesting face."
Hi .. nice report .. just wondering what you mean by this?
"She was also slim and small, but with an interesting face."
Did she have a nose with one nostril smaller than the other? If so, I have had this girl and she is really tight .. so tight that she can remove my condom with her pussy.. lol! Anyone else had her?
Hi there!
I also have a time to visit and bring some girls from Emperor back to my room and have sex that I also forgot to put condom and I pull out before ejaculation. this happened last nov. still worrie if this will put risk for getting HIV?
Is anyone out there can give some idea if this way will get you in having HIV. I understand the girl in Myanmar have not cautiouned themself unlike other country about the awareness to put condom before sex. I know this action of mine is incorrect and really still frecking out till now.
MD
Of course you can get HIV this way - have a test done!!
(as an aside, there no point blaming the 'girl in Myanmar' - you didn't know any better either!).
Hope it comes out ok.
Apparently Meeone didn't read the warnings in earlier reports here about posting of fotos of girls in Myanmar. So I could only repeat, that fotos of Myanmar girls should posted only with hidden face because their security.Old German,
I would differ from your view. Some member had posted on masking out the girl's faces for the reasons of the security of the girls several years ago. Times have changed a lot between then and now.
What is the "security" we are talking about when prostitution is ILLEGAL in all the Asian countries, yet P4P exists every where.
Reports without photographs [like the one you have posted] is ambiguous without any of the board members knowing what kind of girls you had taken.
An old school of thought prescribes no or little information on a monger's destination so that so that they will have less competition and have the girls all to themselves :)
I think I shall prescribe to the "old school" thought and not post any further photos [that I was to do today] and reserve them for "my eyes only" and a few close monger friends.
Cheers!
Old German,
I would differ from your view. Some member had posted on masking out the girl's faces for the reasons of the security of the girls several years ago. Times have changed a lot between then and now.
What is the "security" we are talking about when prostitution is ILLEGAL in all the Asian countries, yet P4P exists every where.
Reports without photographs [like the one you have posted] is ambiguous without any of the board members knowing what kind of girls you had taken.
An old school of thought prescribes no or little information on a monger's destination so that so that they will have less competition and have the girls all to themselves :)
I think I shall prescribe to the "old school" thought and not post any further photos [that I was to do today] and reserve them for "my eyes only" and a few close monger friends.
Cheers!
Meeone,
Firstly, many thanks for your recent trip reports (much enjoyed!) and please continue, but without pics of the girls faces.
As foreigners we are largely immune to any interaction with the police or 'pseudo police' in Burma but the girls we enjoy and any other locals are not so lucky and even the slightest infringement can result in many years in prison. By posting nude pics (together with where they work) those girls could be identified and jailed.
A very good friend of mine in Burma was recently jailed for 10 years for something which wouldn't even have gone to court in my home country.
Where anything to do with this country is concerned it's best to hugely err on the side of caution.
Your reports will not lose anything by not including face pics, after all we're reporting not promoting :)
I look forward to your next report - any action upcountry?
cheers
MD14
Meeone,
As foreigners we are largely immune to any interaction with the police or 'pseudo police' in Burma but the girls we enjoy and any other locals are not so lucky and even the slightest infringement can result in many years in prison. By posting nude pics (together with where they work) those girls could be identified and jailed.
A very good friend of mine in Burma was recently jailed for 10 years for something which wouldn't even have gone to court in my home country.
Where anything to do with this country is concerned it's best to hugely err on the side of caution.
MD14Thanks, MD14.
I believe the dose of propaganda has affected you as well.
Haven't you seen the freelancers being picked up on the Beach Road in Pattaya by the police only to be released a few hours later after Vitamin-M has been handed out by the girls? In all Asian countries the problem exists, more so in Burma, where the pay-off is higher and more frequent. It is a part of their business expense, whether you like it or not.
On my last trip, three girls independently confirmed receiving only 10, 000 Kyat while 15, 000 Kyat went as "protection money". It does not matter if you pay the girl $50 or $100. She gets ONLY $10 out of that payment, the rest going to her handlers.
Please don't be under any illusion that you are trying to alleviate someone's poverty by paying generously. The fact remains their "protectors" and "handlers" are being rewarded handsomely with your generosity.
All the nightclubs have the patronage of the regime. No business, whatsoever can exist in Burma without the regime. Period.
I wouldn't want to convert this thread into a political debate, but would like to point out the misnomers of the previous posts on this issue that are at-least THREE years old.
The argument of that the girls pictures on the forum would land them in trouble is a myth especially when they are a part of the same system. They don't care about having their pictures taken, I have taken permission of all the girls I photographed having told them it was for me and my friends, they did so VERY willingly.
It matters little to them if the pictures are posted or not, rather it helps punters to make an informed choice.
I would be making my third trip in four months, a few days from now and look forward to visiting the wonderful country again.
I think I shall prescribe to the "old school" thought and not post any further photos [that I was to do today] and reserve them for "my eyes only" and a few close monger friends.
Cheers!I will miss your nice photos and intelligent reporting Meeone. Due to the inexperience and bad attitudes of many mongers, I also have ceased to post photos and special knowledge on several boards and forums. Sometimes it feels like "casting pearls into the mud".
Fortunately I have a good list of friends who monger that I put together over the years and we can safely share without concern for doing damage to great destinations (example: PP).
Hello!
Someone can indicate which are the Hotels guest friendly at Yangon, besides the Panarama? Please
Someone can indicate a hotel guest friendly near Bme entertainment? Please
I mean in University Ave road, near USA embassy.
Bme entertainment is better than Empor and Asia plaza zone?
Please.
Thanks
Did she have a nose with one nostril smaller than the other? If so, I have had this girl and she is really tight .. so tight that she can remove my condom with her pussy.. lol! Anyone else had her?
If anyone would like the phone number of this girl, send me a PM. I'll give you her mobile (have received her permission to do so). Only problem is, she shares this mobile with other family members so you may get her mother on her way to the market for the daily shopping.
She only speaks Burmese so best you let a bell boy or waiter call her as her only understanding of English is "I love you every day" LOL!
Only serious members please and only those who are regular posters with a fair number of posts.
The poster below is asking the question, and it seems like a while since we have gotten more robust information on the city's hotels.
I have always stayed at the Panorama, but there are issues there. The place is getting a bit worn, the rooms are okay, but the number of big beds is slim. The breakfast is pretty iffy as well.
What if we get some price point like the Panorama - say $25-30. Then, what do you get if you want to move up one step, say 30-35 or two steps 35-45? Above that, there is always Traders and it is a good place, but not a real mongers central either. You can feel a bit uncomfortable coming back to the lobby there from the clubs with a girl or two in tow.
So, any current info out there? What about the Park Royal, the Central and any others people can come up with? Can we fill the current info void?
All the nightclubs have the patronage of the regime. No business, whatsoever can exist in Burma without the regime. Period.
I wouldn't want to convert this thread into a political debate, but would like to point out the misnomers of the previous posts on this issue that are at-least THREE years old.
Yep, don't wish to make this in to a political debate either. One of the good things about the Burma thread is that it's free from all the flame wars that exists on the other threads so this will be my one and only post on the matter. And I'll keep it short and straight to the point.
My experience with Burma is quite extensive. I have very close ties with the people and can speak the language to a reasonable extent and in the last 10 years or so, average 2 or 3 trips a year.
First of all, Meeone is quite correct in that the clubs around Burma can only exist with the backing of the military junta. I know specifically of one club that is owned by a family member of one of the top generals .. and I mean THE top general whose name you'll hear in the news. Other clubs I dare say would have similar backing as well. This is why the clubs have never been raided by the authorities. If they wanted to bust the WGs then it would very easy to do so by raiding but AFAIK, this has never happened.
Secondly, Meeone is also correct in that the girls who work for mamasans do so because if any of the girls are caught by police on the way to the hotels, the mamasans will pay the police to release her. Of the 30,000 kyat the girl receives from clients, she only keeps 12,000 and 18,000 goes to the mamasan for this purpose. Some girls on top of this also pay their mamasans monthly for food and board as well. As you can see, many girls will end up with very little at the end of the month due to such expenses. As a result, many then become freelancers and thus are not under the protection of their mamasans if they get caught.
I personally know of two cases where girls I've been with in the past have been caught by the police (not when I was with them). One girl was walking out from the club with her client (not taking the taxi) and as she approached the corner of Shwedagon Pagoda Rd and Anawrahta Rd a group of of police caught her and another pair. Both were with local clients. Usually when this happens, the clients will be freed by the police but the girls will be taken away. This girl spent 6 months in Insein. After her release she worked for about a year but after that disappeared from the club scene. Last I heard, she has married and have had a baby and has since stopped working.
It's very hard to predict how the authorities will act towards the girls. But on the whole, it should be quite safe as long as you and your girl keep a very low profile. This is why you'll see the girls change in to "normal" clothes when they leave the clubs with you. Some will even wear their traditional thanaka when they go home in the morning.
So this is why I suggested that their faces be covered or blurred when posting their photos on this board. Keeping a low profile is the way things are done in Burma in this industry. It's very different from Thailand as I'm sure a lot of you know. To be as discreet as possible is the best way, and by doing so, will enable a hassle free mongering for all.
Old German
01-23-10, 14:12
I had written last week a longer report about Parkroyal Hotel in Yangon (Nr. 569). I can only repeat, for my opinion its a good hotel and girlfrendly. The advantage is also a very good breakfast (included in prize) and a nice swimmingpool. A prize of roundabout 60 $ have been adequate for me.
The poster below is asking the question, and it seems like a while since we have gotten more robust information on the city's hotels.
I have always stayed at the Panorama, but there are issues there. The place is getting a bit worn, the rooms are okay, but the number of big beds is slim. The breakfast is pretty iffy as well.
What if we get some price point like the Panorama - say $25-30. Then, what do you get if you want to move up one step, say 30-35 or two steps 35-45? Above that, there is always Traders and it is a good place, but not a real mongers central either. You can feel a bit uncomfortable coming back to the lobby there from the clubs with a girl or two in tow.
So, any current info out there? What about the Park Royal, the Central and any others people can come up with? Can we fill the current info void?
Park Royal and Central both have US$10 joiner fees.
I've reckon that Yuzana Garden, Grand Mee, Espace Avenir are all guest friendly without fee (I often checkin with the girls so can't be 100% sure).
I have chosen the Central(Panorama is full booking) and the Royal Park, because they are private management! It's my first time in Myanmar, somebody have suggested the Jorney travel like agency, must say also the Columbus travel is valid one and cheap then tha first. The rates for a single room at Central hotel is 25$ and 49$ for Park Royal. My route is Yangon, Bagan, Bago, Golden Rock and Yangon, then I am going to return on Thailand to Phuket and then Pattaya! But you have not answered to me on the BME near American embassy, is it a good place?
Another advices, Please! The best bars and disco? I have only three nights in Yangon! Prices, please? How does it work to take a girl at bar? Bar fine cost?
The best place to get freelances? I am sorry, but my English is not good, I am Italian!
Thanks
Old German
01-24-10, 19:57
I have to contradict the information of Mayday 14 about joiner fee in Parkroyal hotel. I have been there 2 weeks before for 3 days. I took girls in 3 different nights in my room and never paid a joiner fee. The girls had only to release their ID card. They got the ID card back in the next morning.
Away Too Long
01-27-10, 03:54
Hi
Do the visa people ever contact your employer when applying for a tourist visa? Has anybody had that happen, or used a fake employer address?
The funny thing is I have nothing to hide from the Burmese government, but I'd rather my employer didn't know I was going there!
Hi
Do the visa people ever contact your employer when applying for a tourist visa? Has anybody had that happen, or used a fake employer address?
The funny thing is I have nothing to hide from the Burmese government, but I'd rather my employer didn't know I was going there!
Usually, the visa application only asks for your occupation (no employer details required) but this depends on which embassy you apply the visa from. I know the Embassy in Beijing requires a letter from your employer if you are an expat resident in China. This can be a general letter of employment, and not necessarily a letter to the Myanmar Embassy. Embassies in most western countries only require you state your occupation and no, they don't check. Most occupations are ok, although if you wrote "journalist", they may do some extra digging or may deny your application on the spot.
Where it asks, "Purpose of Travel", write "tourist" ... this is sufficient. Don't put down you're there to fcuk their beautiful gorgeous Burmese chickas .. this won't go down well with the authorities. ;)
Prices, please? How does it work to take a girl at bar? Bar fine cost?
Standard price is 30,000 kyat. If you go to Park Royal or Asia Plaza, some of the classier girls may ask around 50,000. There is no bar fine (this is not Thailand). The girls will usually go to you and girls usually out number clients by far so you won't have any trouble. Use the help of the waiters at the clubs to translate if you need to, but don't forget to give the waiter a 1000 kyat ($1) or more tip when you leave.
Day 2
My second day morning in Yangon was spent trawling the Bogayke Road between the Asia Plaza and the Trader's hotel to locate some possibilities of day time activity near the cinema halls as reported.....
Great reports Meeone, thanks a lot!
Away Too Long
01-28-10, 01:17
Usually, the visa application only asks for your occupation (no employer details required) but this depends on which embassy you apply the visa from. I know the Embassy in Beijing requires a letter from your employer if you are an expat resident in China. This can be a general letter of employment, and not necessarily a letter to the Myanmar Embassy. Embassies in most western countries only require you state your occupation and no, they don't check. Most occupations are ok, although if you wrote "journalist", they may do some extra digging or may deny your application on the spot.
Where it asks, "Purpose of Travel", write "tourist" ... this is sufficient. Don't put down you're there to fcuk their beautiful gorgeous Burmese chickas .. this won't go down well with the authorities. ;)Thanks,
What does the embassy in Bangok ask for? Just the occupation?
The tourist visa application forms I found online asked for actual employment history. Current and previous 2 employers. That was for the Washington DC embassy, but I live in the UK.
RCA Knight
01-28-10, 13:22
Much easier just give your passport to almost any travel agent in Silom or Kao San Road if you are in Bangkok. They only charge you about 500 commission or less to do all the running for you. I always use these travel agents for Myanmar visa.
In Singapore as well, travel agents all over the city can apply the visa for you for a small running fee.
Away Too Long
01-28-10, 23:26
Much easier just give your passport to almost any travel agent in Silom or Kao San Road if you are in Bangkok. They only charge you about 500 commission or less to do all the running for you. I always use these travel agents for Myanmar visa.Ok, but what do they ask for? Just occupation, or employment history?
A problem for me with getting a visa there is that I'd have to leave BKK for Burma later than I want, because I arrive on a Friday, and I might have to wait a day or two for the visa even when Monday comes around. I can suffer a few days in BKK if need be though.
RCA Knight
01-29-10, 06:03
Away To Long, the travel agents will fill up the form for you and you don't even need to sign the form at all. Just give them a photo and the fees. The travel agents will not ask you any thing, no one will ask you anything, these visa agents every day run the visa service in bulk quantity like a few hundreds visa a day just in Silom areas.
If you are in a hurry, ask for express service. I believe the agent can arrange 1 day Myanmar visa for extra fee.
Yes, they have an Express Service und you get the Visa same day.But you must go for yourself to the Embassy!
For example, the Agencys in Pattaya told me in January this. They can't make the Visa for customer. Last year was this no problem.
Muzungufotsy
01-31-10, 03:21
Eh guys this thread is about what s happening in Yangoon.
Not how you can get a Burmese visa.
BTW if you can't get a visa yourself don't go to Burma.
Thanks,
What does the embassy in Bangok ask for? Just the occupation?
The tourist visa application forms I found online asked for actual employment history. Current and previous 2 employers. That was for the Washington DC embassy, but I live in the UK.
As you live in the UK you should be using the application forms on the Canberra embassy website - isn't that obvious ... :)
UK embassy requires no employment history or anything really except £14.
EDIT:Takes about 3 days door to door for a visa.
I have to contradict the information of Mayday 14 about joiner fee in Parkroyal hotel. I have been there 2 weeks before for 3 days. I took girls in 3 different nights in my room and never paid a joiner fee. The girls had only to release their ID card. They got the ID card back in the next morning.
I'm very happy to be contradicted on this one, need to see a few more reports but if they've stopped charging for joiners that's a very positive step.
The one thing I like about taking the girl down to the basement carpark to get her card back is that you get to see the id's of the other girls who've 'spent the night' :)
The one thing I like about taking the girl down to the basement carpark to get her card back is that you get to see the id's of the other girls who've 'spent the night' :)
Many girls use fake ID's. The reason for this is obvious in that they don't wish to reveal their true identity when working and most of the time, the mamasan has a collection of IDs that she gives to the girls before they go out. The photos on these IDs are usually faded or difficult to see. I had one girl recently who was laughing along with the reception guy when they sighted her ID. The ID has her age as 28 years old ... there was no way she was 28!
Many girls use fake ID's. The reason for this is obvious in that they don't wish to reveal their true identity when working and most of the time, the mamasan has a collection of IDs that she gives to the girls before they go out. The photos on these IDs are usually faded or difficult to see. I had one girl recently who was laughing along with the reception guy when they sighted her ID. The ID has her age as 28 years old ... there was no way she was 28!
Also often the 'successful' girl borrows an ID from a less 'successful' friend, going rate 2-3k kyat.
I would just to add a little to the story about joiner fees at the Park Royal hotel. I have just stayed for five nights and on each night had company with no problems or fees. Most of my accomplices were from the music club and when having the same one for the second night the I D was left all day and she could come and go by herself with no problems.
On one night my company came from the Emperor night club and it was still no different. Each morning the phone call came to ask if it was ok to release your lady.
The freelancers told me that the hotel was worried the guest would be unhappy so there was never problems with the lady.
I will write my tales in the next week or so of my thoughts and quality of places to source.
There is huge difference between the government rate and the black market rate for $US in Myanmar. When I was there, the government rate was 600 for US$1 and the black market was 1050 to 1070 for US$1. I saw all of the below scams by the money changers outside the court house in downtown Yangoon.
#1 You agree on a good rate, say 1150 for US$1, for US$100. One of the guys pulls out his calculator and presses in 1150 then the multiple sign then 100, then he presses the MRC (memory recall) button and shows you 105,000 and says, see, here is what you will get. Make sure he pushes the equal sign!
#2 You agree on a good rate, say 1150 for US$1, for US$100. If your bill is not in perfect condition, discounting on the exchange starts. If a bill has any writing on it, they will want a heavy discount like 150 per US$1 or not accept it. Also the exchange rate changes if you have 2 $50 bills versus 1 $100 bill.
#3 You agree on a good rate, say 1150 for US$1, for US$100. Usually they will provide 1,000 chat notes, so you should be getting 110 bills of 1,000 plus a 500. To make counting easier and faster, the changer has 10 bills in one group which is folded in half. The group has a wrapper bill then the inside bills are folded so that you only count one half the bill. He has an elastic band around 10 groups, so the bundle has 100,000 chat. He takes one group of 10 bills out of the bundle and shows you there are really 10 bills in the folded. The scam is that not all groups have 10 bills. The groups in the centre of the bundle usually have 2 or 3 bills missing. Be sure to open each and group, unfold all of the bills and count them one at a time.
#4 You agree on a good rate, say 1150 for US$1, for US$100, in $20 bills. The money changer and you go to a restaurant or bar to change the money. The money changer will bring his associates, maybe 2 or 3 other guys. He counts out all of his money onto the table, there is a big pile of money on the table. Next, he wants to see your money. You pull out your $20 bills, and hand them to him 1 at a time. Each bill is held up to the light and basically everybody is looking at the bill, trying to find a fault. Do not take your eyes off the pile on the table. One of the associate’s tries to sneak a bill or 2 from the pile. He then returns a $20 bill to you because it has a wrinkle or 2, or it has some pen or marker ink on it. Let’s say you pulled 5 $20 bills, he rejects 2 of them, so in his left hand he has 3 of your $20s. Now you pull out your wallet and start looking for good replacement bills, maybe you pullout all of your remaining $20 bills. He reaches across the table and starts to grab at your 20s, and you tell him to stop. He sits back down, but his right hand, plam down, passes over his left hand, and takes one of the 20s from his left hand, and brings it down to side and under the table, and quickly passes it to his buddy to his right. You don’t see the bill moving. Then as you add another 2 good 20s and he counts all of the 20s in his hand, there are only 4, so he asks you for 1 more.
My recommendations are: 1. limit each side of the transaction to 2 people. 2. Always, make sure the money stays on the table, do not let anyone hold it in his hand. 3. Do not take your eyes off the money. If you have to take your eyes off the money, put your hand on the money. 4. Make sure your bills are in excellent condition before starting the transaction. 5. The new US$100 get the best rate.
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Here are my observations of Myanmar. Most people in Myanmar are poor and are willing to do anything for cash. Bring only US$ or Euros, it is practically impossible to exchange any other currency, except at very heavy discount like 25-50%. There are no ATMs. I saw no commercial establishment accept a credit card except the Strand Hotel. Change your money into Kyat (pronounced chat). Most people equate US$5 to 5, 000 chat, but you can get 1, 100 chat for a US$ so that means you get another 10%.
There is virtually no easily obtainable talent outside the major cities of Yangon and Mandalay. It is very difficult to find talent in a city like Bagan. Big city talent is eager and willing to please and here are some successful techniques. It is not necessary to find someone who speaks your language.
Using this technique, no common language needs to be spoken. First, buy one of those small pocket flashlights that are found with the street vendors. Get one with a laser pointer and maybe 3 coloured LEDs. Try to find a bar that is open to the street. There are not many such establishments, many are air conditioned closed door establishments. Sit so you get a good view of everyone walking on the street. Select any suitable candidate, and catch their eye with the LED light, not the laser. The laser is excellent for night time. Just shine it on their shoes or the side walk in front of them to get their attention. Wave them over, and if they come over or smile, be ready to go to your hotel in the next available taxi. They have been known to request 30, 000 but have been known to accept 20, 000 LT. Be sure to bring a pad and pen and write down the amount of time, services required and sum, to avoid disagreements and misunderstandings. Afternoon is a good time, say 12 noon to 3 pm.
Just stand near a corner of your hotel at dusk or around 6 to 7 pm Just smile at a suitable candidate. If the smile is returned, just follow them. When you catch them, smile and ask them to come to your hotel.
The third technique that works is, use the cab drivers. Try to approach a group of cabbies, at least one will speak English and interpret for the rest of the cabbies. A ride any where in Yangon should be 1, 200 chat or less.
The Asia Plaza is a friendly hotel, priced in the US$20-$25 range, with breakfast for 2. Be sure to check your room for hot water and AC. The railroad side of the hotel can be noisy, even on the 10th floor. The trains blow their horn at 5 am. Also, you may hear prayers over loud speakers near the train station at dusk on special occasions. Also check the fridge contents upon arrival. They may try to make you pay for things like chocolate bars, which were never in the fridge. Menu price lists in the room may be out-of-date, so verify the price upon ordering room service. Also be aware, Yangon does get earthquakes, so know what do in case one strikes. Safe guard all valuables, and lock your suit case. For a small commission, staff can be persuaded to act as your agent to procure services which may even be brought to your room.
Negotiate a cab fare not more than US$5 from the airport to Asia Plaza hotel, even for 2 people. The cabs on the hotel ramp pay the doorman a commission. They will try for $6 or more to go to the airport. If the cabbie on the ramp does not accept US$5, (or 5, 000 chat) walk away and go to the street and hail a cab and offer them US$5. Watch the ramp cabbie come running after you. Make sure you have enough chat for the departure tax at the airport. If you pay in US$, you will be getting the official government exchange rate which is about half of the black market rate.
One final observation, in Yangon, on numerous evenings, soldiers setup road blocks and patrolled some streets with weapons. Be careful, carry your passport at all times. Down near the waterfront in front of the Strand Hotel and Australian Embassy, there are sand bag guard posts, ready for action.
I have spent 6 days in Yangon last November.
Overall atmosphere
Very friendly. As a tall, blond guy in mid thirties I earned a lot of smiles and hellos from girls on the streets. Sometimes I was even told what a handsome guy I was. But these are very innocent attempts. The girls want to chat a little and tell thier friends that now they have a european "friend". Some only want to test thier school english. Even an invitation for an ice cream would normally be impossible.
Hotels
I checked in at the Park Royal. This is certainly not as luxurious as they pretend to be, the staff was friendly but not overwhelmingly friendly and sometimes I felt they refused to try everything to help you. They did refuse with lots of smiling and bowing but still they refused. But overall it was still a good choice. I think there are better hotels like The Strand, Sedona or Traders (I often dined there) but in these places it might be more difficult to bring a girl to your room. Park Royal was perfect for this purpose but to avoid some emberassing hassle at the reception I would recommend to book a double room from the beginning.
Restaurants
Since having serious stomach problems on some occasions in India I am not too adventurous and generally don't eat on the streets. A few of the restaurants that were recommended in my guidebook were closed down. So I found the Monsoon Restaurant in Theinbyu Road and this remained my favourite. You get a mix of southeast asian cuisine there. I loved the prawns in palm sugar. Sometimes I felt I was in need of a hamburger or some nice hotel buffet so I went for the Traders. They had the much better looking waitresses than the Park Royal.
Money/cash
As often mentioned this is a real problem in Burma. There are no ATMs. After having paid for a little journey to Bagan and Mandalay I was literally running out of cash. My hotel didn't accept Mastercard. I had to take a taxi to the Sedona Hotel where you can get some cash by charging your credit card. But if you are in trouble come there before 10 am since they only have a certain amount of cash available per day. And sometimes even the biggest hotels refuse to change foreign currency on public holidays. And then they don't accept untidy dollar bills.
Girls
For a start I recommend to go to the Music Club in the Park Royal. As soon as I sat down at the bar some nice girl approached me. Later I found out that there were more attractive girls so a little smile was enough to have a whole bunch all over you. I have not figured out the system there but I think there is one group of girls for each side of the bar. The girls are really competing for you. Even if you already have one girl on your knees the others don't stop licking your ears or kissing you. My usual girl group included on girl from Mandalay (very tiny but somehow cute, named Htike Htike), one half thai (her friend named Po Po), one indian with dyed hair and some others (can't remember all their names), all of them were in their early twenties. You are expected to buy one or two drinks for them but not in an aggresive manner.
On my first evening Htike Htike took care of me asking me for a dance and so I ended up taking her to my room. Passing the reception the girl had to leave her passport and first they wanted to charge me with a 10 USD joiner fee. After realising I already booked a double room they apologized and smiled.
We both took a shower first then she performed a nice BBBJ. Since he mouth was so tiny I feared to come immediately but somehow I managed to hold on. Then she asked for a condom (bring your own ones with you!) and we fucked in various positions. Doggy style was best having her apple ass right before me. After coming I asked for her price (much too late!) and she wanted some 70 USD for the whole night which in my opinion was too expensive. She explained that normally her Mamasan asked for 100 USD but only because she liked me so much. Blabla. Then she also started with the usual story about her mother being very sick and having a serious surgery the next day and so on. I didn't like the way the story was going so I sent her away with 35 USD. Then she gave me her phone number and asked me to meet her in private. To convince me she again got on her knees and started with a BJ. I wasn't in the mood and sent her away. She again told me how much she liked me and gave me lots of hugs and kisses. A few minutes later I got a call from the reception that my "guest" was leaving and if everything was o. K. So the reception guys really care about their guests. Have to mention that her english was horrible. She said "lie" when she meant "like" and "night colo" when she meant "9 o'clock". Anyway this didn't matter too much since her performance was good.
Two days later I returned to the Music Club. The usual group of girls approached me. Since it was Saturday the bar was crowded but nevertheless there were 3 girls for every half decent looking foreigner (the ugly ones only had only two.). Since Htike Htike complained a bit too much for not calling her this time I turned my attention to the half thai one. She was much more entertaining. At least her "I am a student" story was somehow convincing. We ended up going to my room. She had very nice skin and GF attitude but in fact her performance was only so and so. She charged 50 USD for the whole night.
Another night a Burmese guy I have met took me to a karaoke bar near the Traders where according to him the finest pussies should be available. But I wasn't impressed too much so after one or two hours I returned to the Park Royal music club and found an amazing girl. Since this encounter turned very intimate I am too polite to describe this girl in terms of looks and performance.
A few days later I returned to Bangkok, a true convenient heaven. In general I found the Thai girls much prettier than thier Burmese rivals but since Burma was a bit off the beaten path it had its own charme.
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i spent last weekend in yangon and write this little report for two reasons – firstly in the spirit of giving back to the forum and secondly because i am just giggling thinking about what a great time i had.
living in thailand and traveling around sea for both work and pleasure, i appreciate that i am a lucky bastard. sometimes i forget how much i would look forward to finally getting a trip to asia or latin america when i lived in the west. often when i am out doing errands i will make a point of stopping into [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a blow job, or swing by a soapy massage place to have my pipes and everything else cleaned.
often, i will not really need to get blown or laid, but i kind of feel an obligation to take advantage of what thailand offers me. living in a developing country comes complete with all sorts of frustrations, and these can start to bother you if you forget to make sure that you get the benefits that come from living here.
take thai massage, as an example. working at a computer for hours and sitting in a car or a plane can give me a sore back; having a massage for a couple of hours can really make me feel better, but this is not something i would ever do in the west. here, for 10 dollars, i can have all the knots worked out for a couple of hours and feel a lot better after. sometimes though, i need to force myself to go and have a massage done. other things can fill up my day and i will put off having a massage, and the knots in my back just get tighter and tighter.
i guess what i am talking about, is taking things for granted. it is easy to do no matter where you live, but going to a place like burma is great for reminding me how easy my life is.
most people in bangkok will avoid going somewhere if they have to walk for 10 minutes. it is really hot, but people in bangkok are generally pretty lazy, and in many cases pretty spoiled. in yangon, people walk because they have no other option. there are buses and they are cheap, but even cheap is too expensive for them. so they walk, and if you walk down any major road, there are plenty of others doing the same thing. i walked from the shwedagon pagoda back to the central hotel and there was a long line of young and old picking their way down the broken pavements in the hot sun.
people in burma are darker than thailand, partly because of race and a large portion of indian genes, but also because they are out in the sun a lot more. at the pagoda, it was like walking across a big frying pan in your bare feet – the sun had cooked the tiles so much that it felt like your feet were burning (and in some cases, they probably were). families were huddled in the shady parts of the huge open spaces of the pagoda, grinning at the white guy sizzling across the tiles in his bare feet. this is a substitute for entertainment in yangon.
last saturday was the full moon day, so there were many more people at the pagoda than otherwise, but i did not see any other foreign face until i was almost back to my hotel. i saw lots of pretty faces, babies and old geezers, but no tourists at all. people bring food from home and sit around eating on the ground. there was water in cisterns and they handed out suspicious looking water in bottles, but i was not brave enough to drink it.
i did stop off at a place at the side of the road to eat, though. sitting on a little plastic stool out of the sun, i did eat some of the street food with no ill effects. again, i was the principal source of entertainment everywhere i went. people are generally friendly, albeit shy, but curious too. my tab at the food place was less than two dollars, including a pot of chinese tea. the 30 kilo girl serving me could not have been cuter, but language is a big issue as i speak no burmese at all. this was brought home when the fried pork i thought i had ordered was replaced by cut up roasted pig face. i could not find anything chewable in that dish, so i concentrated on the other things i had ordered instead.
this time i stayed at the central hotel, and i made sure that the travel outfit i went through booked me a double room, so there would be no issues about joiner fees. my rate was $28 for a double deluxe room, which was hardly deluxe but okay. the air was not great, but after a few hours the room was cool enough and there was plenty of hot water. the room had a double bed and a single, tv with hbo and espn and a sampling of other choices. it was clean enough and the bathroom had a tub and hand held shower.
no real room complaints, and the location is ideal – close to the central market and just down from the supermarket for supplies. taxis are always outside and the money changing rates some of the best around, and money that did not smell like everyone in yangon had touched it before it came to you. still can’t get used to the idea that 1,000 chayt was the biggest note – so for my $100 usd notes i would get 97,000 chayt in 1,000 denominations. you always need to have small us notes for everything, or else you will pay more for using burmese currency. like $5 or 6,000 chayt entrance fee at the pagoda. most everywhere else, they will equate one dollar to 10000 but if you have both you will not get stung by a difference.
overall, i find it really hard to spend much money in yangon no matter what i choose to do. perhaps if i were buying $10 garlands, it would add up, but i am not and the amount of money i go through is next to nothing in burma.
more people have cell phones now, but i did not bother with a sim card for two days. a kind isg member provided a local number in a pm, but i did not have cause to use it (but thanks and you know who you are!). none of the girls i took had a cell phone, although their mama sans all did and i got a couple of their numbers.
having been to yangon before, i had some idea of where i wanted to go on each of the two nights. i reread one of the immortal sakaundeh’s prior posts where he listed his favorites and matched them to mine. on the back of one of the hotel envelopes, i listed my plan of attack – starting early i hit palace the first night, and emperor the second. if these did not pan out, i would hit asia plaza for a fashion show and a couple of other mid market places before going to music box if none of the others hit gold.
both days, i did not get palace and emperor before i found what i wanted. i showed up at palace the first night too early, and went across to the chinese food court place to grab a (decent enough) bite and kill half an hour. at around 8 i was back at the palace with a bar seat and in a conversation with my first night’s girl. she quoted 30,000 and i asked to see the mama san who confirmed the same rate for 7 or 8 a.m. departure. rather than try to knock the price down, i said yes and she was changed and we were out the door in no time. this was well before the fashion show began and there were half a dozen others who were doable.
mine was 18, had a rocking body and no children. she blew me in the shower and did a pretty decent job on the horizontal cha cha on the bed. after round one, her enthusiasm had waned a bit, and i asked her if she wanted to step it up a bit or hit the road. she wisely chose to step it up. the morning session was less inspired, so i sent her off at 7:00. when she started to count the money on the doorstep of the room, i guided her elbow into the hallway and closed the door. the front desk called to confirm that her departure was okay.
the second night, i came back early with two of my new friends from the emperor. when i got my key, the girl said a $5 charge for the extra girl. i said okay and i would take care of it in the morning. when i was fooling around with the first girl in the shower, the doorbell rang and it was the maid with an extra towel. nice touch.
after one round with one girl and two with the other, they fell asleep on either side of me in the big bed and i watched the olympics on tv. i was a bit hungry, so i slowly slipped on some shorts and a t shirt and went down to the street for some banana roti to get my potassium levels back up. one more round for my favorite and i had to bid farewell for the early flight to bkk. i gave them each the 25,000 negotiated (mama san asked for 30,000 but quickly accepted 50,000 for two) and tipped my favorite another 10,000.
it was a fantastic night, plenty of bathroom sex with the other girl in the bedroom and great enthusiasm all round. same age group as the first night and almost limitless sex on offer. i ran out of energy before the two of them did. taking two from a place like emperor (which i personally like better than palace) works out well for me. with the language barrier, they at least have someone to talk to and i have someone to service while the other regroups. modern medicine application number 127. gotta love it.
i like burma and i like the people. i feel for them, and it makes me grateful for my charmed life. i spread small amounts in tips wherever i eat or with any of the girls. they appreciated it always and the amounts were trivial for me. i do not go around dropping big dollar bombs, but spread it out where i go. i think that i am helping the people out a bit and they are good folk – much warmer than the thais and more shy and far less commercial. they always treat me well and i like to get back there every once in a while just to see the changes. small changes now, but china, korea, india and thailand are sending in fdi around the sanctions and there is building and economic activity. just no social improvement. the girls were lovely with perfect bodies and naturally bald pussies in two out of three cases.
great trip and i would do it again in a year or so – it is different, but it will not displace my other destinations except for short trips.
thanks to all of the posters who went before me and shared experiences
I just finished reading the previous post and can pretty much agree on everything he said. I stayed at the Thamada, which my friend had booked through his agent. Hotel was not quite up to snuff: a little run down and worn looking, no in room safes, and the aircon thermostat that did not work. However, the one bright spot was a terrific location. I'm not one to get into much talk about the bedroom antics. But I will say that I loved the girls. All had great attitudes and were ready and willing to please. I did have a little trouble finding daytime action but found a taxi driver that took me to the Ambo Hotel whre I could pick a mate and take her back to my hotel for about three hrs. Night or day I was hit with the same number, 30 bucks or 30000 kyat.
I also visited the venues that were previously mentioned. The Music Club in the Parkroyal nad the ladies were asking more but didn't take from there anyway.
As an aside, Yongon was hotter than any of the other Asian cities that I have been to. Very hot.
I will most definitely visit there again, but will choose a bit better lodging.
I do disagree on one specific area from previous posts. I think the girls are every bit as nice looking as the Thais, maybe better, IMO. Also, no tattoos, no fat chicks and ro real dogs that I saw.
Benjamin Be
03-26-10, 16:56
I just finished reading the previous post and can pretty much agree on everything he said. I stayed at the Thamada, which my friend had booked through his agent. Hotel was not quite up to snuff: a little run down and worn looking, no in room safes, and the aircon thermostat that did not work. However, the one bright spot was a terrific location. I'm not one to get into much talk about the bedroom antics. But I will say that I loved the girls. All had great attitudes and were ready and willing to please. I did have a little trouble finding daytime action but found a taxi driver that took me to the Ambo Hotel whre I could pick a mate and take her back to my hotel for about three hrs. Night or day I was hit with the same number, 30 bucks or 30000 kyat.
I also visited the venues that were previously mentioned. The Music Club in the Parkroyal nad the ladies were asking more but didn't take from there anyway.
As an aside, Yongon was hotter than any of the other Asian cities that I have been to. Very hot.
I will most definitely visit there again, but will choose a bit better lodging.
Good report, tell us some more details, i am leaving for Yangon in three weeks. how is the emperor or palace' selection there and also very interesting to know more about Ambo hotel, thanks lot.
Good report, tell us some more details, i am leaving for Yangon in three weeks. how is the emperor or palace' selection there and also very interesting to know more about Ambo hotel, thanks lot.
The Palace and the Emperor are located in the same building. They were similar, but the Emperor had a bit more of a selection. Again, I don't like to get too specific, but I loved these girls. All had great attitudes. None of them even wanted a drink. by the way, Myanmar Lager Beer is excellent IMO.
I was taken to the Ambo by a taxi driver who had me wait outside while he went to into the hotel to set things up. Came down with the Papasan and we went to the third floor into a room. He then thriught in three girls at a time to let me choose. Selection was ok, but better in the nightclubs. I think there are any number of these kind of places that the taxi drivers know about.
As I stated previously, I wasn't thrilled with the Thamada Hotel. Next time I will do more research. What I'm not sure of are which hotels are gf and which are not.
Benjamin Be
03-27-10, 17:18
Thank you for your advises, I think I will go emperor, better selection and longer time(overnight) for the same prize, no points to look for somewhere else, what do you think? And also seems like in emperor 30000 is a fixed prize, is there still any space to negotiate? Let's say 25000+5000 tips same amount but diff. Results I hope. Last question, personally I like bigger woman(size10-12) with large round ass(yes I am ass man). Do you happen to see these kind of girls working at emperor. Thank you so much again, I believe you have the latest information I can find in the forum and I can't wait for another three weeks to get there, will write a field report when I come back from there.
Benjamin Be
03-27-10, 17:47
One more question for all seniors who have contributed so much in this forum and made my research much much easier.
Where can I buy Kamagra in Yangon? I bought once in Cambodia, result was fantastic only cost me $3 us dollars for a 4-tablets pack in a local convenience store.
I heard Burma has cheap Kamagra directly from India, but where can I find them, in local market? Or any pharmacy or taxi driver? How much chances to get fake ones and what kind of price am I expecting to pay for?
Please share the info. In return I will definitely write a update FR.
Thank you all
Almost every girl that I saw at Emperor was small and slender. I did notice more than a few girls at the Music Club that were a bit larger with more curves. I don't know if you can get cheaper than 30K, but i thought that was fair and didn't try to negotiate the price. If I thought the price too high, then I may make a counter offer, but for 5 bucks difference, no problem. I think to travel that far and haggle over that amount of money, is....well, not something I do.
Benjamin Be
03-28-10, 14:54
Almost every girl that I saw at Emperor was small and slender. I did notice more than a few girls at the Music Club that were a bit larger with more curves. I don't know if you can get cheaper than 30K, but I thought that was fair and didn't try to negotiate the price. If I thought the price too high, then I may make a counter offer, but for 5 bucks difference, no problem. I think to travel that far and haggle over that amount of money, is. Well, not something I do.thank you for your quick reply, I get your point and do believe 30k is fair price, just a bit disappointed to know there are no larger women in Emperor or Palace, but. Well that is life you just can't get what you want all the time.
One more question for all seniors who have contributed so much in this forum and made my research much much easier.
Where can I buy Kamagra in Yangon? I bought once in Cambodia, result was fantastic only cost me $3 us dollars for a 4-tablets pack in a local convenience store.
I heard Burma has cheap Kamagra directly from India, but where can I find them, in local market? Or any pharmacy or taxi driver? How much chances to get fake ones and what kind of price am I expecting to pay for?
Please share the info. In return I will definitely write a update FR.
Thank you all
Not sure about the Kamagra. I know people to go to Burma from Thailand
for visa runs and they would buy K, but not from pharmacies. It was black market stuff. Never had an offer of anythind like that in Yangon, unlike AC, where you get five offers in one block. As a sude not, i tried to buy K and cialis in AC, and everytime it was bogus....a ripoff.
Not sure about the Kamagra. I know people to go to Burma from Thailand
For visa runs and they would buy K, but not from pharmacies. It was black market stuff. Never had an offer of anythind like that in Yangon, unlike AC, where you get five offers in one block. As a sude not, I tried to buy K and cialis in AC, and everytime it was bogus. A ripoff.You can get K at the pharmacies. For accommodation try the Grand Mee Hya Tha Executive Residences. These are serviced apartments and located adjacent to the Scott Market. Excellent service and GF. Prices from $50 onwards. Flip side, they are always full. Call them on the number from their website and confirm your booking. You can pay on arrival.
Cheers!
Meeone
You can get K at the pharmacies. For accommodation try the Grand Mee Hya Tha Executive Residences. These are serviced apartments and located adjacent to the Scott Market. Excellent service and GF. Prices from $50 onwards. Flip side, they are always full. Call them on the number from their website and confirm your booking. You can pay on arrival.
Cheers!
Meeone
Thanks for that Meeone! I've been contemplating going back soon, but I've been checking on the weather and I see that June, July, and August are months that are inundated with rain. I wonder if you can get around or do much of anything during this period.
Do you know how much K goes for in the pharmacies there? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for that Meeone! I've been contemplating going back soon, but I've been checking on the weather and I see that June, July, and August are months that are inundated with rain. I wonder if you can get around or do much of anything during this period.
Do you know how much K goes for in the pharmacies there? Thanks in advance.I, too, am contemplating. Yet, see that the inundation of rain is preceeded by months with temperatures exceedingly hot. Does anyone know the turnaround time at Burmese Embassy in Bangkok for tourist visas for this country? Or possibility of visa at arrival at airport Yangon. (for US passport holder).
Benjamin Be
04-03-10, 19:22
You can get K at the pharmacies. For accommodation try the Grand Mee Hya Tha Executive Residences. These are serviced apartments and located adjacent to the Scott Market. Excellent service and GF. Prices from $50 onwards. Flip side, they are always full. Call them on the number from their website and confirm your booking. You can pay on arrival.
Cheers!
MeeoneThank you Meeone you are the man, give us some details on K, you meant all the pharmacies?
And what the price, thank u again.
Dear members I have read from this forum a number of mongering places as listed below
*1. Pioneer Club. This is located at the Yuzana Garden Hotel
* 2. Asia Plaza Club. Located in the basement of the Asia Plaza hotel on the corner of Bogyoke Aung San Road and Seik Kan Thar St
3. BME2 Disco. This is located next to the Summit Parkview Hotel.
*1. The Palace. 6th Floor of the City Centre Plaza.
* 2. Emperor. This is in the same building as The Palace, but on the 5th floor.
* 3. Shanghai Entertainment. Next to the City Centre Plaza.
*4 And another "local scene" venue is Mingala Zei (Mingala Market. Channel V (5th floor) and
*2. JJ's (4th floor)
As I will be going to Yangoon this May are this mongering place still operational Is there any new and better place. Another question I like to know is anal sex available with any women in this places.
Thanks
Dear members I have read from this forum a number of mongering places as listed below
*1. Pioneer Club. This is located at the Yuzana Garden Hotel
Pioneer Club has been closed for about 2 years now, after a drug bust there. And there are no indication that it will be reopening anytime soon.
BME2 was closed sometime ago due to a fire, but not sure whether it's reopened.
All the other places you've listed are still happening (although I'm not sure about Shanghai).
Pioneer Club has been closed for about 2 years now, after a drug bust there. And there are no indication that it will be reopening anytime soon.
BME2 was closed sometime ago due to a fire, but not sure whether it's reopened.
All the other places you've listed are still happening (although I'm not sure about Shanghai).Thanks Sakaundeh for your information.I like to know is burmese ladys are more open to things like anal.As i want to know the level of maturity there and do not want to be caught in a embrassing situation with this ladys.
Any monger been there in May? /
We know it would be very hot, but is it bearable in the Evenings?
How does it compare with Bangkok at the same time?
I know I can google weather, but I thought to ask for personal experinces, which speak more volumes than weather charts
I was in Bangkok and chiang mai in may 09, so I have experienced their weather at that time of the year. Was ok with it.
Thanks Sakaundeh for your information.I like to know is burmese ladys are more open to things like anal.As i want to know the level of maturity there and do not want to be caught in a embrassing situation with this ladys.Myanmar ladies are not as adventurous as, say, those from Thailand. Infact, you'll find many new girls to the industry to be a little shy to foreigners until the ice is well and truely broken. You can try suggesting anal to them, but in my experiences with the few requests that I've made, they have always been rejected. But their pussies work quite well, and are often very tight so I've never been disappointed with not getting any anal from them. :)
Any monger been there in May? /
We know it would be very hot, but is it bearable in the Evenings?
How does it compare with Bangkok at the same time?
I know I can google weather, but I thought to ask for personal experinces, which speak more volumes than weather charts
I was in Bangkok and chiang mai in may 09, so I have experienced their weather at that time of the year. Was ok with it.May is the start of the rainy season, so you will get some relief from the heat. Yangon's climate is quite similar to Chiang Mai so if you can tolerate Chiang Mai, you'll be fine in Yangon.
May is the start of the rainy season, so you will get some relief from the heat. Yangon's climate is quite similar to Chiang Mai so if you can tolerate Chiang Mai, you'll be fine in Yangon.Thank you very much, Sakaundeh for your reply.
Going to yangoon as a sexual refugee from the Uk, to escape the new fucking prostiution laws in the UK.
Your reply put my mind at rest.
Sanjay Dutt
04-07-10, 11:54
Dear all,
Kindly please help me with some detials in Yangoon.
Like stay I m going to stay in Park Royal Hotel, as they are having their own fashion shows and you can have your girl with you.
What will be the approximate damage for lt. Anyone can guide me some other options, thank you.
Myanmar ladies are not as adventurous as, say, those from Thailand. Infact, you'll find many new girls to the industry to be a little shy to foreigners until the ice is well and truely broken. You can try suggesting anal to them, but in my experiences with the few requests that I've made, they have always been rejected. But their pussies work quite well, and are often very tight so I've never been disappointed with not getting any anal from them. :)
I would suggest to ask less and push more as I had several anal experiences with girls in Yangon without much debating the issue beforehand.
Thanks for that Meeone! I've been contemplating going back soon, but I've been checking on the weather and I see that June, July, and August are months that are inundated with rain. I wonder if you can get around or do much of anything during this period.
Do you know how much K goes for in the pharmacies there? Thanks in advance.Never bought K in Yangon although I have seen them on the selves - I buy mine from India - costs $4 for a 50mg x 8 pack. I guess it should cost a little higher in Yangon.
I read in this forum there are Message Parlours and Barber shops which provides extra service for a fees.This are some of the list which I pick up.
Executive Massage @ Grand MeYaHta Hotel
Orchid Massage @ Kandawgyi Hotel (not Bayoke Hotel)
Shwe Gon Ding Spa @Hotel Shwe Gon Dine
Hotel Nikko
25FEC 90 Minutes. Never tried it, but HJ would be offered at the minimum
The Spa @ Espace Avenir
22K for 90 Min.
Do this place still operates I hope some members will kindly update me on this.Thanks
I read in this forum there are Message Parlours and Barber shops which provides extra service for a fees.This are some of the list which I pick up.
Executive Massage @ Grand MeYaHta Hotel
Orchid Massage @ Kandawgyi Hotel (not Bayoke Hotel)
Shwe Gon Ding Spa @Hotel Shwe Gon Dine
Hotel Nikko
25FEC 90 Minutes. Never tried it, but HJ would be offered at the minimum
The Spa @ Espace Avenir
22K for 90 Min.
Do this place still operates I hope some members will kindly update me on this.ThanksI can confirm that some of the masseuses in the parlor of the Grand Mee Hya Tha do provide extra full service - you however have to be a resident of the hotel and have the masseur come up to the room. Quite expensive though.
Cheers!
I can confirm that some of the masseuses in the parlor of the Grand Mee Hya Tha do provide extra full service - you however have to be a resident of the hotel and have the masseur come up to the room. Quite expensive though.
Cheers!Thanks Meeone for the information.
Gent Prince
05-01-10, 18:56
I can confirm that some of the masseuses in the parlor of the Grand Mee Hya Tha do provide extra full service - you however have to be a resident of the hotel and have the masseur come up to the room. Quite expensive though.
Cheers!Been living at mee ya hta for quitesometime now and been switching masseuses to test their willingness for full service through room service. the max that they go is do hj they term it as "handplay" for 10USD.
Though got into a relationship with 1 massuese and bingo full service for free.
Been living at mee ya hta for quitesometime now and been switching masseuses to test their willingness for full service through room service. the max that they go is do hj they term it as "handplay" for 10USD.
Though got into a relationship with 1 massuese and bingo full service for free.Bingo!
You have hit the jack pot. I hope you have NOT promised any long term commitments. If so, be extremely careful and don't let her know of your departure date.
last year i made an incursion in burma through the tachilek border. i found 4-5 small chicken farms with some of the girls being rather remarkable. after 2-3 guides whose english was more than limited, i bumped by sheer luck into an indian whose english was not only excellent, but who also understood me perfectly. he made me discover things that the other guides completely skipped, like for example a quite amazing new colorful temple being build on top of a mountain that commanded a fabulous view of the surroundings. i had such a good contact with this guide, and he was able to arouse my interest in burma in such a way, that i decided to go back this year.
i was ready to send him a ticket to join me in rangoon but unfortunately i was not able to reach him anymore. his sim card, as i discovered later, was one of these valid for one month only, and, contrary to what i advised him, he never wrote me an email in order for me to get his address, so i was on my own.
on top of this, i did not have time to check information on isg, so when i landed around 7pm, i only had a vague idea of which were the key girl-friendly hotels to look for. i first tried traders but had no reservation and over the counter prices were above $120, so i declined. i then walked to the panorama and settled there. i easily got a discount on the $30 posted price and so got the room at $25.
after a visit to the shwedagon pagoda and a quick meal in china town, i asked a cab to show me the night life.
he started to take me to a club called “iq”, telling me that this was the most “in” thing at the moment, and that it was open until 3am.
the entrance was 5,000 kiats and i was not allowed to take a peek inside, so i moved on, eager to first get an overview of what was available before deciding where to go.
we passed by the yuzana hotel, in which my (guide book) said was a popular disco, but the disco had moved out of there.
we then went to the olympic hotel. the 3rd floor has a massage parlor (3,000 for the room and 3,500 for the massage), but you can’t chose the girl, every room has several beds, and they leave the door half open to check what you are doing in there. it also has a karaoke at 700 for an hour and no girls available.
we then went to the park royal basement but by then it was already 1 am and it was closing. they let me in and i was able to walk around in the club, where i got several solicitations. the girls were unfortunately way lower in quality than what i was given to think arriving at the airport, seeing the gorgeous immigration officers sitting at their desk, then walking down the street and seeing more appealing girls, seeing the super cute girls at the reception of panorama, etc. i expected better in the clubs but this first encounter made me realize that, as is the case many times, hookers are alas often a different breed than what you get to encounter in daily life. or maybe i was just unlucky for the time being. at that time of the night, i gues that only left-overs are left over anyway.
next was a disco named pioneer. 5 dollars entrance and no peeking in. i declined.
the taxi then took me to a place quite far off and called “v6”. now this club i quite liked and the ambiance inside (they let me look and walk around) was quite lively, though it was a bit dark to check out the girls. i just made a note to myself and did not linger around.
we then passed by something called “k paradise”, that was close, but where the doorman advised to go to a nearby karaoke called river club or something. as i went in that club, a really cute girl was busy phoning, but i never got to see her again. they made me sit and proceed to install the karaoke. i told them that i wanted to see the girls first but that seemed to put them off. they then claim that there were no girls, which was an obvious lie.
there was anothe karaoke two floors down the same building. it is called dream karaoke. the few girls that hung around there were really cute so i decided not to spoil it this time and sat down waiting what came next. they brought one of the girls but when i asked if i could chose they said no, this is your girl. i found some excuses and left.
rooftop of shwedagon hotel. nice ambiance and looked promising, but was closing down.
a string of massage parlors in a building, but they claimed to be either “closed” or “full”. ok, it was really late by then, 2am. the place looked really promising, but i was never able to locate it again.
next, a club called 225, but closed already, the last customers going out.
he then took me to a place which i thought was called “lucky”, but which i found out later was actually “jj”. now things were really happening in this place, even though it was closing time and people were walking down the stairs and out. i immediately got assailed by a cloud of touts who all wanted to give me a “lady”. at the same time, people in white shirts were trying to convince me to go up with the lift. i was pushed and shuffled around, and some of the touts sounded and smelled drunk, plus started to fight between themselves. it was madness and in sharp contrast to the absence of anything happening in the earlier places we visited.
as all this was going on, i notice a bus full of ladies, all of them in some kind of uniform of various shapes and colors. these girls were really very good looking, clearly some sort of professional. they made for a real contrast with the seedy ambiance; it was all kind of very very strange. these girls were 7s and 8s, up to 9, but it was impossible to get any or even to talk to them. i was told that these were dancers who finished their duty and were now going back home.
i chose to go with the white shirt guys up the elevator. scary experience. the boy called the lift, not by pressing a button, but by shouting between the doors. the lift was shaky and full and the alarm button was used as a sort of honk to advertise its coming! i hate to think what would happen if it really got stuck!
at the top, a string of massage and karaoke rooms going through all the 6th, 7th and 8th floors. many girls around. the setup was the same as in the olympic, but i got the definite feeling that for a fee the door could close and something else going on inside.
the 5th floor, going to the actual disco, was closed already.
on my way out i check the girls which the touts were offering me. they were out on the street at the back of the same building. nothing of real interest, but good to know that at least some pick ups were available.
that was all the taxi driver could show me, especially at that late hour. it was already quite a good sample! he brought me back to the hotel and wanted $15. i found the rate more than reasonable after all the places he brought me and i paid without discussion.
i then started to walk around in the streets, at 3am, to see if i would get any offer. but nothing.
i then made another try with another taxi and this time asked him straight for girls. he took me to a hotel called mo something, advertised as a “karaoke hotel”. up the floors and a couple of half asleep girls were available. not really my type so we moved on.
he then made some phone calls and brought me rather far to a street in an area he referred to as “pasundaw”. two girls came and they were actually not bad at all. better than all i saw so far (apart from the bus of models) but still not quite up to expectations, so i ended my search there for the night.
by now it was 4am. i told the taxi to drive me back to the hotel, gave him $10, and went to sleep. this was my first night in rangoon, and my first night in burma. at least i’ve got a first idea of the place and what could be available.
Phil Istine
05-19-10, 02:22
I'm considering a trip to burma.
Anyone got the visa on arrival yet?
And what about money, does one have to carry cash?
Is there anywhere to draw money on a credit card?
Are flights to the north expensive?
Any advice appreciated.
I'm considering a trip to burma.Great country. See it now before it changes... I went back after 15 years, couldn't believe how much it's changed.
Anyone got the visa on arrival yet?Stop in BKK, get visa at Burmese embassy.
And what about money, does one have to carry cash?Cash is king.
Is there anywhere to draw money on a credit card?MIGHT be possible, but just easier to carry cash.
Are flights to the north expensive?Internal flights pretty cheap - you pay in USD.
Any advice appreciated.RTFF. Also check out General Info thread.
I wake up late and try to catch up with ISG. I am still only in 2004 though (starting from the beginning), so maybe I don’t have the most up-to-date information yet. In the meantime I get hungry so I go out to try to find some food, as well as check the surrounding of the Central Hotel, but on the way I get offers from a street tourist guide. He is Indian with good English, so I catch the opportunity in the hope he would be of the same caliber as the Tachilek one.
I take him on his offer for a massage and he brings me to an in-house massage place on a boulevard near street 39. The girls there are not bad, but I like to see other places. Good on me, because my guide explains to me as we go out that there is no sex with those massage ladies. Strictly massage, and the manager is there to watch. No take out of pant either.
He tells me that if I want sex ladies, he will bring me to a hotel out of downtown. The hotel is in an area called something like Bathan. After a long ride, we arrive. The place is run down and has overpriced rooms at $20 (for what it was). No girl on the spot, so they have to call them. They claim that these are office working girls and not bar girls, so they are more “clean” and “rare”. They want $50 for the girls. I tell them that for this price, plus another $20 for the room, they better have outstanding girls.
Three girls finally show up. Two are shy and boring-looking, but the third one, named Casey, is superb. Not only has she a gorgeous sexy body, she is also lively and always laughing, looking like having a very nice character. I would rate her 8 or even 9. No English. I am very tempted to get her, even at this price, but it’s still early in the morning and I am not in real mood at the time. I just went along with my guide out of curiosity, as when I got out of my hotel in the morning, it was for food, not for girls. I tell the hotel guys that I will phone them when I like to get this girl. I give the girls 3000 for taxi money and walk out. The girls go back to their taxi, but the taxi catches us on the way and stop. Casey gives me her cell number, which I gladly write down.
The guide says he knows another place and we get back in town to another hotel. He speaks with the guard and the guard starts to calls some number. About 20 minuets later, the girls arrive in taxi. On the back sit two shy and very average and boring girls. Absolutely not interesting. After this the guide tells me that there is just one more hotel near the lake. I am in no mood to make that long trip again. It’s around 4-5pm now, peak traffic time, so I decide to get rid of the guide. He does speak a good English and I like the straight manner he answers straight questions (a rarity in Asia), but I think that I’ll try now on my own. give him $10 (asking price) + 2000 kiats, and let him go. I was ready to give him more, but he seemed very happy with that tip, so kept it at that.
I then resume my original destination before I met the guide, the Central Hotel. I end up going up to the massage parlor inside the hotel. The massage girls there are really very cute, but again the setup does not seem to be sex oriented, so I don’t want to waste my time trying. There is a hairdresser next door so I decide to get a haircut. The girl was cute, but a total failure as a hairdresser. Now that I think of it, she probably was not hairdresser at all. There were also two other very pretty girls sitting there. I spoke to them in broken English, as the hairdresser was cutting a millimeter of hair, hair by hair. At some stage, one of the two girls tells me: “you can ask whatever you want”. I should have taken the hint, but they didn’t seem to be available, so I restrained myself. I probably should have been a bit more daring. I tried to convince the girl cutting my hair that the job she did was perfect and so she can stop now (she barely had cut anything, luckily). I pay her the asking price (3,000), and walk out (to a real hairdresser!).
Language is a real problem in Burma. Either people don’t speak at all (even a single word), or they speak with such an accent that it is just impossible to make out whatever they say. Some are better, though, especially the Indians. In despair I try to stop several taxis in the hope to find one with decent English. It’s easy enough to stop them. Sometimes they will say yes, I speak English, but when you test them out with a quick sentence or two, you find that they actually barely speak anything at all. I stop several taxis this way, to no avail.
Finally I find a Pakistani-looking driver who seems to speak English. I get in the taxi, but soon enough I realize that he does not really understand to a workable level. I tell him to drop me right there where we happened to be, which was near the stadium. There’s a massage parlor nearby. It looks kinky enough so I try out. I get a room, the girl comes in, I undress. When I want to take out my pant, however, she says “no no no”, so no good. I find some excuse and leave.
I have read about the Emperor on ISG, so now that we are in the evening already, I try to get there. I try several taxis again but none of them understand the word “Emperor” or know where is the place, nor do they know any club called “Lucky” (as I thought was the name of the happening one I saw the day before). In desperation, I give up, and just ask for JJ massage parlor (got the name from my morning guide). Ok! This he knows and brings me there.
When I arrive, lo and behold, that JJ club is in fact what I thought was “Lucky”! At least something! It’s relatively early, though, so I check the line up on the back of the building again. Usual average 4-6 quality. I tell them that I want better and they make me walk to the street corner on the right going out from the parking. A car arrives with a handful of ladies, but none of them are better than the line up. They may even have been the same girls for what I know. But they don’t give up. They bring me with a taxi to a place very near there, just around the corner in fact. I told them that this is the last place I go with them. If they cannot bring me ladies of better qualities, I stop there (you need to do that otherwise they will keep promising wonders and keep bringing anything they have at hand, no matter what you asked, in the hope you will like one of them).
After the turn of the corner, the taxi stops in a nearby street and one of the guys speak to a local tout. After a while, two girls climb into the car. One of the two is really very nice, a rating 8. However, they want $55 for the girl, not counting the hotel. What is worst, they want me to pay in advance. I don’t like that, and what is more, I don’t trust them. They look like crooks. I tell them that I don’t agree and step out of the taxi. Another reason I did that was because that area looked promising, so I wanted to check out on my own. I give each of them a tip of 1000, including to the two girls. They all look actually quite happy with this small tip and head off.
I wait that they go away, and then start to walk around on my own. My intuition was right. There are quite a few girls available there, and they are at $20 dollars only, not $50+. The touts there will either bring you the girl, or you will climb up in the apartment where you’ll find a bunch of them. Not that the quality is much higher than on the back of JJ, but the atmosphere is more relaxed and you are not pressed around by a pack of eager touts. After seeing a few girls, they finally bring back the same girls the others were trying to sell me for $55. This time I can get her for $20 alright, and I trust those guys more than the ones in the car. Nor do they ask me to pay in advance. One of them brings me and the girl with his car to a hotel, quite far, near the lake. It’s a pity I did not take the card of the hotel because it was a really good one, at least for the purpose we went there. Subsequently I was never able to find this hotel again, even when I badly needed one. Once in the hotel, I pay the guy $20 for the girl and $15 for the room and off we go.
Once in the room, the girl who initially looked subdued and innocent, all of a sudden becomes alive, and turns out to be incredibly cute. The way she giggled was absolutely irresistible. In bed, however, she is a typical Burmese shy girl. A typical “I-wrap-myself-in-towel-don’t look-at-me” girl. “Don’t-do-this-don’t-do-that”. She just lays there like a corpse, waiting that the whole thing gets over. Anyway, she really was cute so I did get my fun doing her.
When it’s over, she says that she wants to go out to disco. Of course she does not speak a word of English, but she gesture to make herself understand. That was not really my plan. I wanted to get in the JJ club to check out the super models I saw in the bus the day before, but again I just could not resist her cuteness and her giggling as she danced to demonstrate what she wants. We get a taxi and she brings me to IQ, the first disco I visited the day before. It really seems to be the “in” club nowadays, as it got confirmed to me again later. Entrance for ladies are half price, so the total damage is $7.50.
The inside is rather nice, and the sound system is really good. Now instead of the JJ club, where I really wanted to go had not this girl overwhelmed me with her giggling, I am now dancing like a 14 years-old teenager. I like it anyway, and maybe because of the trance state of the dancing and rhythm and music, I can go on for hours like that, even though on my own I manage to lift the average age of the place by several notches.
Everybody is very kind with me, coming to speak to me or smiling or dancing. Several girls caress me to entice me to meet them further, but hey, I am with my cute lady, who gets even cuter as she dances. At some stage, however, I get to see in the pack a stunner, absolutely my style, a 9 on my scale. In a quieter moment later on, I do manage to get her number, but (as with most people in Burma) it only is a landline and not a mobile. Of course, very limited English too. She does not seem to be a pro, or a girl that would be available, so I do not offer her to come with me. I was probably too shy and would have had nothing to lose to propose her, but there you go.
It now is 1 am. I still want to check JJ, so I take the opportunity that I cannot find my girl in the crowd anymore to escape. An Indian looking guy is there at the outside and proposes me a taxi. I thought he was the driver but he wasn’t. Anyway, he comes in the taxi too. At last someone who speaks decent English. I try to catch on the opportunity and ask him where I can watch one of the fashion shows I have been reading in ISG. He tells me at 225 club, so we go there instead of JJ. When we arrive, I tell them to wait in the taxi and I enter the place.
A fashion show is indeed going on. The ladies are often tall and slim. The waiter tells me that if I like a lady, I have to buy her a garland for $5, then she will come to sit with me and we can arrange the price. However, not all the ladies go to sleep with customers, and I can only take her after the show is finished.
There is a girl in the pack that I really like, but she is reserved already. The waiter presents me another girl, rather nice and pleasant, and after speaking a while with her, I agree to take her for $50. She wants that I pay in advance. No way. She still seems OK to come with me but as we go out, she joins the other girls rather than coming with me. I don’t mind at all, because the price was rather high for a girl I was not really enthusiastic about. I just think it is not very clever on her part - as if I was not going to pay her due in the morning.
I overheard as they spoke that all the fashion show girls go now to IQ (again IQ?), so I decide to go there too. On the way, my guide insists to show me girls available on the street. I say OK and, lo and behold, he goes to the very same place I got my cute girl earlier in the evening! What a small world… After speaking with some touts, however, the guide says that all the girls are gone for that evening. He says it’s a very popular place because it’s cheap, only $20, and the girl stay overnight until 8 am.
When we get back in IQ, there is now a fashion too (in the outside). What is not my surprise when I see that these are the very same girls who made the fashion show in 225. I thought they were going to IQ to have some fun after work, but no, they went there for yet another fashion show (although I saw some of them dancing inside anyway). To my surprise, my guide explains to me that in fact these fashion show girls first start in Emperor, then move to Asia Plaza, then to 225, and finally to IQ! Wow… So maybe that is why Emperor has the reputation of having the best girls? Obviously, the ones who get to IQ are the leftovers – but for leftovers, they were still of quite a high caliber, 7 on average.
However, I don’t want to see a fashion show again, so I go back inside IQ, especially since I still have on my harm the stamp for the night. Maybe I can find now my rating 9 girl, or find back my cute giggling girl? No luck. On the other hand I quickly bump into another rating 8 girl. Very pretty face, very nice body, cute character. It’s late and I want to go home, so I pack this girl for an agreed price of $40. I guess I could have had her for less but what the hell. Entering Panorama with the girl was no problem. No questions asked, especially not at nearly 3 AM..
At least that girl was not a corpse, though her performance was mechanical and not very satisfying. BBBJ was nothing to talk about (the kind where you don’t even feel their lips around Johnny), Fucking was OK, though, especially dog style, because she had a very nice and comfortable little bump. The condom didn’t last long so I end up doing her without. It didn’t seem to be a problem for her, even when I came inside her. Then we both fell asleep out of exhaustion.
Now that was for the good part. The bad part comes in the morning. At 6 am, she suddenly wants to go away. I know the sketch, but I don’t agree. The $40 was for long time. Not 3 hours (from 3 to 6 am!). I tell her not before 8 am and try to sleep back. However, she insists and at some stage I get up and find the door of the room wide open, with 2-3 staff looking in (and I was nude!). Apparently she was the one to open the door and call for help or what! I now start to get really angry at this crazy girl. I tell her that if she goes now I will pay her $30 instead of the $40. To my surprise, she immediately agrees. After I gave her the money, she has the guts, after all she did, to ask me for taxi money! I promptly eject her out of the room without an extra dime. What the fuck! Luckily, after I quieted down, I managed to sleep back.
That was the end of my second day. Conclusions: some really stunning girls to be had, day and night, but it takes quite a bit of time and looking around, especially in the beginning when you are not sure what the best places are. Girls not as good as I expected, but on the whole, I just find that Burmese girls are more attractive than Thai girls. They have a smaller and thinner body, and their face is more regular. A real mix of Chinese (small bodies) and Indian (straight faces).
Today, I managed to fall about three times “in love” (Casey which I did not take, the giggling girl which I took, and the rating 9 girl of IQ which I could not take). On the whole, it’s Casey I miss the most as I write this. What a body! What a happy face! Pity I wasn’t in shape in the morning, but then the other two girls were top as well.
I never managed to get inside JJ either, except on the 12th and last day of my stay – only to find out at that late time that this was actually the best place of all, where I should have gone every day of my two weeks stay if only I knew… Such is life… But then, I wouldn’t have had my fabulous Mandalay adventure of the 4th day – so all is as it should be after all.
I am not just a sex tourist. I am a genuine tourist as well. I enjoy visiting stone temples and watch beautiful landscapes, as well as flesh temples and their beautiful curves. I do enjoy flesh temples more than I enjoy stone ones, but still. Besides, I need to justify my trip to friends, colleagues, and family. Even if they probably kind of know what I am up to (and I don't really care), everybody needs to at least have a semblance of face saving.
I was told that, if I have to visit a single site during my Myanmar trip, that would be Bagan. Unfortunately, all the flights for that destination are full. All I get is a place on the 6am plane the next day. I do not want to go on the next day, and least of all I do not want to go that early. On the other hand, there are plenty of places on the plane for Mandalay. I figure out that from Mandalay it may be easier to reach Bagan. Anyway, I saw enough of what was available in Rangoon (or so I thought at the time). So I book the ticket, flying out at 3 pm.
Very good service from the Panorama lobby girls who manage to book the plane faster than the two travel agencies I asked (everything done through phone). Overall, I am very pleased with this hotel and the lobby service, so as I check out, I tip $5 for all the girls there, then $1 for any other staff that comes my way between the lobby and the waiting taxi, including the guards under the bridge. It always makes me feel rich to do that. The girls at the lobby are in fact pretty and cute, plus they speak fluently English. If only I could find a girl like that somewhere in the bars or otherwise, but again, there is a great contrast between regular girls and hookers, as in many countries, but maybe in Myanmar more than in others. Not that you can’t find pretty hookers, but as English, education, and overall conversation go, it’s day and night.
The plane arrives in Mandalay at 5-6 pm. The Taxi to town is 12,000 kiats, which they strangely translate to $15, so better to pay in kiats. I book in a higher end hotel for lack of any GF hotel information. At 8 pm, after settling down and catching up on a few emails, I set out to check the few places where I gathered from ISG the action was. What seemed the best, reading about it, were “the side streets of the main 26th road, 68th, 69th, 70th, etc.” The hotel was at the crossing of 82nd and 26th street, so I set out to walk. I didn’t realize that the 70th would be that far, and I didn’t know where and how to catch a taxi. It was dark and what a taxi was was not easy to see. When I finally arrived, I found nothing, and these side roads are really dark and long. It’s impossible on your own and by mere walking to see what can be found there. Still no taxi and no way to find them. I just stood there, lost on this very large and busy 26th avenue, in an unknown town on foreign land, not knowing how I would ever get back to the hotel, as I was too tired to walk back all the way again.
Luckily, a very kind Burmese took pity on me. He stopped his motorbike and asked where I wanted to go. I told him the name of the hotel and he said OK. His wife who was at the back of the bike got down and waited for his return on a coffee shop at the corner of the street, and he took me for a back ride. “Don’t worry, he said”, but as I seated on the back of the bike, I could smell he had been drinking, so I must say I had some ground for being slightly worried after all.
As it turned out, we arrived OK. The problem was only that this was not my hotel. It was another one called Golden City Crown. Once again, English devil stroke in as he misunderstood the name of the hotel. This, however, turned out to be a blessing in disguise, because this hotel was in fact way better than the one I was staying. Indeed, the rooms were big and clean but were given away for only $25. Best of all, it had free Internet in all the rooms, something I could never find in Rangoon (apart from the expensive Traders and Park Royal), even though I searched extensively. There was indeed a wireless router at every floor! That was enough for me to decide I would move in there on the next day.
I told the kind drunk motorbike driver to leave me here, even though it was not my destination, and I wanted to give him a tip of 1,000 kiats, which he absolutely refused. Now that was quite touching from him. May God give it back to him a thousand time. Really, it is so rare nowadays.
I decided that I definitely could not do it without a car and a driver. The town was really big, dark, and I had no idea where was what. I asked the hotel to order a taxi, and I insisted for an English-speaking driver. While waiting, I looked the hotel around and was quite surprised to find, in addition of free wifi in room, a karaoke club at the 1st floor, and a massage parlor at the 3rd! The hotel also was, as I discovered later, in the middle of what could be called the “entertainment district” of Mandalay (62nd and 35th street) – if you can call a couple of karaoke beer bars “entertainment district”.
The driver arrives and does indeed speak at least some English, albeit with an almost unintelligible accent. I ask him to first show me around town. We agree for a price of $10 per hour. It turns out that most of the town is actually not that big, standing roughly between the 26th and the 35th street “horizontally”, and between 84th and 62nd street “vertically”. A night market, a Chinese market (good food), Chinese temple, a rather beautiful Christian church, a Diamond center, and a clock tower. That’s about it. Passing the Cainta (?) hotel he tells me that they have nude massage for $30 (no sex). Cinemas are in the “new town”, far away, wherever that means. After 40 minutes, we are done with the tour, so now is the time to ask him where to find ladies, “ladies for sleep the night”.
He does not seem to have much of a clue. He tells me to ask the reception of my hotel (which he thinks is the Golden City Crown). Later on, however, he goes to the 62nd street and starts to speak with a bike man. The bike man points further down the 62nd street and later on just gets into the taxi himself to show the way, and off we go heading South. Strangely, even though we were going quite far already, the taxi comes back on its track after a round about, as if the two of them changed their mind, then stopped instead on the 35th street at a sort of beer garden.
In the center of the beer garden stands a round stage featuring girls who are taking turn to sing. The system is the same as the fashion show in Rangoon. $5 to offer a garland. The girl comes to sit at your table for another $1 drink, and, if you find agreement on the deed, you can take her away at the end of the show (midnight). It actually is a rather pleasant way to “study” the girls, if you can afford the time. Some of the girls sing really well too. The bar also seems to have sort of semi-professional music intermissions. In spite of this, I don’t find anything to my liking and we head off.
As we go out, I discover that the driver arranged with his 62th street bike man friend to fetch a few girls for me, which they present me in turn. They come riding on the back of a motorbike. One seems doable, so I settle for her, but now comes the trouble, because I tell them that I don’t want to bring the girl to my hotel, and that I don’t have my passport with me. (Actually I did have my passport with me, but I just wanted to see how far they would implement that absurd rule.)
It turns out that, contrary to Yangoon, it is indeed impossible to find a hotel without passport in Mandalay. Some guest houses and hotels are not authorized to house foreigners, and the ones that do all ask for a passport. Taking the girl in the room does not seem to be a problem though, but they want a passport. The driver tries to ask some of his friends if we could use their house for the deed, but they refuse (because of the wife, etc). At the end, we decide that I will just do the girl in the car while the driver drives around town (an idea that I find rather exciting). In the meantime, however, the girl and the guys who brought her went away, so we call the whole thing off. I don’t regret it much because the girl was not exceptional. I went through the motion more for the experience and for measuring up the mongeringtedness of Mandalay. The whole circus to try to find a girl and then a hotel was rather interesting to see.
We are now past midnight and the town is even darker than before. When we were touring the town I saw an Indian restaurant, so I told him to drop me there. Indians in Myanmar make for terrific guides, so I thought I maybe could find one there. I even point the restaurant out to him as we are passing through it again. He drops me and without discussion I pay him $30 for the three hours, plus a $5 tip. He probably didn’t expect it and seems very happy with that tip. He even wants to wait for me but I tell him no, gogogo. I don’t want him to hang around as I search for my ideal Indian guide.
The problem is, as I now find out after he went away, that I made a mistake. This was another Indian restaurant than the one near my hotel, very far in fact from it. When I realize my mistake (and at this late hour I actually didn’t find the English-speaking Indian I was looking for), I find myself once again stuck in the middle of nowhere with no taxi in sight. I ask a few locals if they would mind taking me on their motorbike for a fee, but they all refuse. Finally, the restaurant manager, who initially basically told me (politely) to fuck off, got pity of me and asked someone to drop me for 2,000 kiats back to my hotel, which he did.
From my hotel I now walk towards the Indian restaurant I saw near there (the good one this time). It really is very near. When I find it, however, it already is closing, with no more customers present. There are still people cleaning around, though, and among them a Muslim Indian (with the Muslim beard and hat, et all) and this time his English is perfect! (What a change!).
We talk for a while and at some stage I ask him about girls. He tells me about the “entertainment district” on 35th and 62th street. I tell him I was there already, but where can I find just pick-up girls? He tells me there are some places but you need to know where they are because they are not advertised as such. In fact, there is one just down the street right over there, which he even shows me on his motorbike. He keeps far away from it, though, only showing me the direction. He tells me he would really like to go there but he is a very visible Muslim and does not want to be seen frequenting those places. On the other hands he tells me Muslim can have more than one wife, and they don’t have an age limit. As soon as the girl is menstruating, even if that’s 10 years-old, they can marry her. I think he was pulling my leg as it seems a bit too far-fetched. Anyway I am not there to talk about religions, so he drops me on the corner and very reluctantly accepts 1,000 kiats (I actually had to put it on his pocket because he wouldn’t take it).
I now walk towards the place he pointed out. There are some neon lights and what appears to be a closed shop or factory, with some people sitting in front. I speak with them. They ask me what I want, and without waiting for my answer, ask me if I want a girl. I say yes and they then bring me a few meters further where I find a girl laying asleep. She stands up so I can have a look at her. She was a rather nice 18yo girl with a really nice rack. Now comes the problem of the hotel again, but surprisingly they tell me that the fact I don’t have a passport is no problem, and that it will be $30 for the girl, including the hotel. I agree.
They then take both of us on a bike through a maze of streets to a small hotel, where in fact the manager does want a passport after all. After much talk between him and the tout, the manager finally reluctantly agrees, but the tout has to fill up his own name. $10 for the room, $20 for the girl, paid in advance to the tout. It’s a small amount and, given the difficult circumstances, I agree and pay.
The girl was kind of OK in bed, but must have been very average as I now hardly remember anything about it, except that she did have a really nice rack. Anyway, I only took the girl out of curiosity more than real attraction. When we were done, we got out and I was surprised to see the tout waiting for us with his bike. They told me I could keep the girl until morning if I wanted. Would he have waited there all that time? He dropped me back where we met and I walked back to my hotel.
Conclusion: contrary to what I read for the most part, it is not entirely true that there is nothing to be found in Mandalay. The singing/fashion beer bars would be an option. For the rest you need to make local contacts, only to bump into language barrier, and if that was not enough, you’ll get the passport hassle too – as well as the difficulty at night to find a taxi. Not the best of mongering towns, but still possible with some effort.
And yet, in that town, in the middle of the following day, at a time and place I least expected, I hit pure gold. Got to show that you sometimes need to diversify your tactic to get lucky.
Conclusion: contrary to what I read for the most part, it is not entirely true that there is nothing to be found in Mandalay. The singing/fashion beer bars would be an option. For the rest you need to make local contacts, only to bump into language barrier, and if that was not enough, you’ll get the passport hassle too – as well as the difficulty at night to find a taxi. Not the best of mongering towns, but still possible with some effort.Great report, Denom.
I stayed two days in Mandalay trying unsuccessfully to land a girl - the language barrier being the biggest problem.
Look forward to your next installment.
Cheers!
I'm going to rangoon end of next month, check the panorama hotel with directrooms, show it is full.
Do the hotel like Central, Asia Plaza & Thamada charge joiner fee even if i book a double occupancy room?
Which hotel is guest friendly other than above?
I'm going to rangoon end of next month, check the panorama hotel with directrooms, show it is full.
Do the hotel like Central, Asia Plaza & Thamada charge joiner fee even if i book a double occupancy room?
Which hotel is guest friendly other than above?For some reason, the Panorama fills up faster than the others. Judging by appearance of clientele, it might have to do with tour bookings. If you are a lower budget sex tourist, Asia Plaza is the place for you. Splurge for the extra five bucks and book a double: you get a bigger, better room, and no joiner fee. Couldn't tell you if there's a joiner fee if you only book a single. Hotel staff speaks English: Call them. Note: book room through local travel agent in Yangoon and rate will be a little cheaper. Try the Mayflower agency a few doors down from the Panorama. There is also a restaurant serving Excellent Italian pasta on that block.
Dingdong Bell
06-17-10, 23:34
Dear Denon,
Congratulations on a well-referenced report. It reminds me of the academic variety one comes across with validation in almost every paragraph. The opinions you have expressed are also very valuable to those of us who are in the planning stages.
Stone and flesh monuments make for a very interesting combination. May I ask if you think it is at all possible to look for a 'fleshy' guide who could take me around the 'stone' ones and enjoy herself at the same time? Maybe compensation for the outdoors and well as indoors 'guiding' cold be a factor that could make someone reconsider her initial hesitation. I would like your views on this topic because I gather that country is still very conservative and people may not want to be 'seen' doing so many things they would like to.
When you mentioned that the English-speaking girls at Reception were of a good quality, I thought they may want to take a couple of days off and free-lance as guides. Naturally they would only be able to associate with guests stying at hotels different from the ones they work at.
For the benefit of other readers on this forum, would you kindly advise what sort of budget a 13-day trip came to (apart form the flights to and from Myanmar).
Cheers!
D.D. Bell
(Pussy's not yet in the well - Meeeeooooow!!!!!!!!)
Dear Denon,
Congratulations on a well-referenced report. It reminds me of the academic variety one comes across with validation in almost every paragraph. The opinions you have expressed are also very valuable to those of us who are in the planning stages.
Stone and flesh monuments make for a very interesting combination. May I ask if you think it is at all possible to look for a 'fleshy' guide who could take me around the 'stone' ones and enjoy herself at the same time? Maybe compensation for the outdoors and well as indoors 'guiding' cold be a factor that could make someone reconsider her initial hesitation. I would like your views on this topic because I gather that country is still very conservative and people may not want to be 'seen' doing so many things they would like to.
When you mentioned that the English-speaking girls at Reception were of a good quality, I thought they may want to take a couple of days off and free-lance as guides. Naturally they would only be able to associate with guests stying at hotels different from the ones they work at.
For the benefit of other readers on this forum, would you kindly advise what sort of budget a 13-day trip came to (apart form the flights to and from Myanmar).
Cheers!
D.D. Bell
(Pussy's not yet in the well - Meeeeooooow!!!!!!!!)There's nothing in Myanmar that you won't find in Thailand -- more readily, comfortably, and more hassle-free. the country's only for guys who want to check every box. Make sure you you buy a flight where you can change the date because you may very well want to return early. having said this, don't mean to put anyone off, as Yangoon isn't without its charms. It is IMHO just worth going to if you want to check the box. Girls are there, but girls are everywhere.
Hermes Pan
06-18-10, 15:05
Haven't been since 2006 (or was it 2008?)
PROS
- girls only want all night
- no condom, no problem
- $16 all-night (has gone up)
- full service
- no shyness with blowjobs
- exotic: India plus Thailand
- enjoy feeling like I'm telling the US of A and international community to go fuck themselves by punting in a pariah nation [the conservative in me]
CONS
- Gotta stay in expensive hotels
- significant % of expenditures (hotels) going to Chinese/Burmese military/industrial complex [the liberal in me]
- double pricing for foreigners
- limited stay (30 days plus overstay charges)
- Thai and Khmer girls, even Javanese, are better looking
- not a large number of the best-looking gals
- food could better
- when you factor in all the costs no cheaper than Phnom Penh
- I look for a sex paradise I can rent an apartment and get a work permit. Impossible in Burma?
Conclusion: Svay Pak in Cambodia 1996 or Baby a Go Go in Pattaya 1989 were better. But can any place match them these days?
No point in trolling around too much in Yangon, in my opinion. Go to Emperor early (7-8pm) and there will be a great selection of cute, willing young girls who will go for k30000/35000 all night. A lot of them have no English but there are always 'friends' who will help with the deal. Leave it later (even 9pm) and the number and quality is already down. After 10, don't bother. Later, best place is the Music Club at the Parkroyal. Girls ask for more money ($40-50 short time) but some are good looking. Everywhere else I tried (JJ, Asia Plaza, Palace, Pioneer) a waste of time in my opinion.The better girls seem reserved for Burmese guys.
For some reason, the Panorama fills up faster than the others. Judging by appearance of clientele, it might have to do with tour bookings. If you are a lower budget sex tourist, Asia Plaza is the place for you. Splurge for the extra five bucks and book a double: you get a bigger, better room, and no joiner fee. Couldn't tell you if there's a joiner fee if you only book a single.http://www.asiaplazahotel.com/rates-english.html
The hotel show same rate for single and double
Deluxe Room Single US$ 35 Double US$ 35
1. I directly check with panorama, central & thamada hotel thru their own website, but there is no reply until now, over 36 hours. Do they reply their email ?
2. I'm using @live.com or yahoo email, i hope there is no problem to receive the myanmar email.Anyone been success book thru their website, and is it reliable ?
3. Is there any good website special focus on booking for myanmar hotel ?
4. I'm trying to contact the panda hotel (little far) & city star hotel too
This is my virgin trip.
Wow Dingdong bell and meeone - thanks a lot :)
Sorry I got stuck in day 3 :( Just can't find the time to continue at the moment. Hopefully that will change some day.
As for fleshy guide, I am afraid that would be very difficult. The moment a foreigner walks with a local gal in the street they both get the look, and most of the girls will not want that - plus they can get in trouble with the police. It may still be possible, though, I don't know. I just haven't seen many foreigners around, and of course much less with local girls. Most of the girls don't speak English, and those who do (the educated ones like those at the Panorama reception) are the "good girls" who will not want to be seen as "bad girls". It's just my feeling, but can't say with 100% certainty that this is how it goes. It certainly is not Thailand or the Philippines where you can walk hand in hand with local beauties!
On my last day in Rangoon I did get a girl who was not shy to stay with me or walk in the street with me, but by that time I also had a local guide, so I made them both walk together in front of me as if they were not with me because I was not at ease by the way people were looking at both of us.
- Thai and Khmer girls, even Javanese, are better lookingThat would be a matter of individual taste but looking back at it I think I like the Burmese girls better. I find their face much smoother and more beautiful (a bit like Indian girls), while many of them are relatively petite in stature (Chinese blood).
Maybe the novelty part plays a role too. It is still an exotic destination, unlike Thailand and Cambodia. I first stayed 8 days in Myanmar then went to rest in my house in the Philippines before resuming my trip, and I started with Phnom Penh, as I have not been there for quite a while. After two days I quickly jumped on a plane back to Myanmar, where I had a great time, unlike in Cambodia. PP has become incredibly boring nowadays. it's nothing like what it was. Myanmar, although more conservative, still has a bit of what it takes for a happy mongering holiday if you know where to go. For how long, that is what I don't know, and what I am afraid of. So better enjoy it while it lasts - though it's true it's for people who like to try other boxes, because if you just want girls, they would indeed be more readily available in other countries.
For the benefit of other readers on this forum, would you kindly advise what sort of budget a 13-day trip came to (apart form the flights to and from Myanmar).
Panorama was $25 the first time around, for a single, then $30 the second time around for a double. Mandalay was $50 then $30 when I changed hotel. $75 on Mount Popa and $30 in Bagan, all for double. I think you can find cheaper hotels everywhere, I saw some of them at $15.
Taxis in Yangoon usually ask $1-3 depending on distance. Short time hotels were typically $15, and the girls $20-30 all night if from touts, $30-40 from club. Some stunner fashion show models can go past $100, though. Food I don't remember but it wasn't very expensive (nor very good either but luckily there's lot of Chinese food). Entrances to clubs are typically $3-5.
So I would recon that with a budget of $100 a day you should be relatively well off, not counting flights. I did spend more than $3,000 in total but I am a big spender, and that would include internal flights, car rent, and generous tips to girls and touts when I was happy.
Don't forget that there is no ATM, and credit cards are not accepted (except maybe in the Strand hotel) - so if you run out of cash, I don't know how you survive and fly back. Better take a large amount of cash, plus the bills need to be perfect or they won't accept them. Local money OTOH can be as crappy as it gets and the small bills usually are - barelly recognizable at all below the dirt. They are usuless too, only used for bottled water, beggars and road taxes. The biggest bill is 1,000 ($1) so if you pay a girl the equivalent of $40, it's already a huge pile and almost looks like a million.
1. i directly check with panorama, central & thamada hotel thru their own website, but there is no reply until now, over 36 hours. do they reply their email ?
2. i'm using @live.com or yahoo email, i hope there is no problem to receive the myanmar email.anyone been success book thru their website, and is it reliable ?considering the hopeless state of emails in myanmar, i would not be surprised is they don't even bother to check their mail. i pesonnally would not with such a speed (not counting electricty cut every hour or so).
No point in trolling around too much in Yangon, in my opinion. Go to Emperor early (7-8pm) and there will be a great selection of cute, willing young girls who will go for k30000/35000 all night. A lot of them have no English but there are always 'friends' who will help with the deal. Leave it later (even 9pm) and the number and quality is already down. After 10, don't bother. Later, best place is the Music Club at the Parkroyal. Girls ask for more money ($40-50 short time) but some are good looking. Everywhere else I tried (JJ, Asia Plaza, Palace, Pioneer) a waste of time in my opinion.The better girls seem reserved for Burmese guys.Maybe that is why I really did not find the girls at Emperor special at all, maybe because I went too late. However, the first time I was there I was early (around 7pm I think) and the place was almost empty. Girls were arriving from outside but the ones I saw were not of high guality either. I did not enter at that time because they told me to come back later, around 9 or 9h30, which I did, only to find the place as you describe (strange they would tell me that if the peak is around 8 instead). So there would be only a small window of time (about an hour) when you find the nicest ones? So all the girls and customers rush in around 7-8 then go home? I would find that a bit surprising.
http://www.asiaplazahotel.com/rates-english.html
The hotel show same rate for single and double
Deluxe Room Single US$ 35 Double US$ 35
1. I directly check with panorama, central & thamada hotel thru their own website, but there is no reply until now, over 36 hours. Do they reply their email ?
2. I'm using @live.com or yahoo email, i hope there is no problem to receive the myanmar email.Anyone been success book thru their website, and is it reliable ?
3. Is there any good website special focus on booking for myanmar hotel ?
4. I'm trying to contact the panda hotel (little far) & city star hotel too
This is my virgin trip.If you need the phone for Asia Plaza, send me a PM. IT's a big hotel, doubt it will be full if you just show up without a reservation. Then, after you're in Yangon, you can go to a travel agent and book additional nights at a cheaper rate for the A.Plaza, Panorama or wherever. For flights: use Myanmar Air. With them you can change your return for NO fee. this is important because there is a good chance (for whatever reason) you will want to leave Myanmar early. their office is in the big building directly across the street from Trader's Hotel.
About the girls in the Emperor. A lot of them work in massage places during the day. If you find one who speaks no English, but she has a friend who does and is translating for you, chances are there's a mamasan involved who's getting a cut.
Maybe that is why I really did not find the girls at Emperor special at all, maybe because I went too late. However, the first time I was there I was early (around 7pm I think) and the place was almost empty. Girls were arriving from outside but the ones I saw were not of high guality either. I did not enter at that time because they told me to come back later, around 9 or 9h30, which I did, only to find the place as you describe (strange they would tell me that if the peak is around 8 instead). So there would be only a small window of time (about an hour) when you find the nicest ones? So all the girls and customers rush in around 7-8 then go home? I would find that a bit surprising. hen you go into the building, there are 2 elevators: one to the Emperor Club, and the other to another club on a different floor. If it's later in the evening, try the other club. Better, less hardcore quality. You may find the girl who will hang out with you the next day. Even so: Myanmar ain't Thailand. If you're looking for alternative to Bangkok, I found Viet Nam and Laos to be much better for girls. Hanoi especially. Myanmar is uncomfortable and just doesn't have the right mix and infrastructure for anything other than a brief, go check it out visit after you've been everywhere else.
1. I directly check with panorama, central & thamada hotel thru their own website, but there is no reply until now, over 36 hours. Do they reply their email ?
2. I'm using @live.com or yahoo email, i hope there is no problem to receive the myanmar email.Anyone been success book thru their website, and is it reliable ?
Try calling them - they usually block a room on request
Panorama: +951-253 077(10-Lines)
Enjoy your trip!
BTW when do you plan to be in Yangon?
That would be a matter of individual taste but looking back at it I think I like the Burmese girls better. I find their face much smoother and more beautiful (a bit like Indian girls), while many of them are relatively petite in stature (Chinese blood).Yup. It is a matter of individual choice. I would prefer a Burmese rather than a Thai or Cambodian as they are so nice and friendly.
Here is a pic of a girl from the Shan State who was with me for 10 days 24x7.
After 10, don't bother. Later, best place is the Music Club at the Parkroyal. Girls ask for more money ($40-50 short time) but some are good looking.I thought the rate is $40-50 Long Time at Park Royal Music Club?
Food I don't remember but it wasn't very expensive (nor very good either but luckily there's lot of Chinese food)
The biggest bill is 1,000 ($1) so if you pay a girl the equivalent of $40, it's already a huge pile and almost looks like a million.1. USD$1 = ~1000kyat
Is that mean that I got 100 pcs of 1000kayt money if I change USD100
I wonder how I put inside my wallet?
2. Some recommend change money at the scott market jewellery shop get best rate. How I know that jewellery shop can change money, it is black market, right? Do I get the same rate if change the money at travel agency or money changer?
3. Can I bring the kyat money back to my country? The myanmar government allow it?
4. How much is the airport tax when go back, paid in USD or Kyat?
5. For the club girl, I pay to the club/mamasan or pay to the girl the next morning?
I just confirm the room reservation with the Panda hotel, the only hotel that reply email within 24 hours, $35 double room with no joiner fee, book thru their own website, seems good and profesional. The location a bit far, maybe 15-20min walking distance to Scott market
Salamat
Stayed a week earlier this year and have to add that a lot of info here is not quite true. I found emperor the biggest selection and yes many come early and leave quickly. I stayed to watch and around ten they start the modeling flower show which means all the remaining girls get to prance around the stage-dance floor in real lighting as the club is usually really dark and I could not see much. I was surprised then how many good lookers remained. I recommend the flower shows, just don't waste your money on them garlands. Also I did not ask them how much they wanted and just offered 20 or 25 us and sat on it. After a while they all say they have to talk to the mama etc. But most came around. 25 us is a lot of money in burma.
There are very few foreigners and many girls go home alone. Many.
I try not to negotiate them down, just tell them how much is my budget.
When taking a taxi ask for emperor disco, not club. Later at night I went with the girl to iq disco-club, late very interesting, all burmese. In all the clubs are girls on the game. Some are young.many are cute. Real cute.
And for malibu
1. Buy a bigger wallet or just stuff it in your pants
2. Count your money carefully look for folded bills
Scotts market jewelers can be very ok
Not sure about 3
4. 10 $ new bill required
5. Always pay after the deed, everywhere
Forget e mail, just call and make a reservation over the phone
At panorama or asia plaza.
Don't worry too much. It ain't LA
For taxi to town walk down to the street in front of the airport. Stop taxi, offer 5 bucks taxi in town: 1$.2$ hold your ground
And last but not least:
RTFF
There are very few foreigners and many girls go home alone. Many.
I try not to negotiate them down, just tell them how much is my budget.
When taking a taxi ask for emperor disco, not club. Later at night I went with the girl to iq disco-club, late very interesting, all burmese. In all the clubs are girls on the game. Some are young.many are cute. Real cute.Thank you Islandboy, i will write a FR when come back early Sep
I try to book the Panorama Hotel thru the agent "Santa Maria". They are very helpful and explain everything in detail, highly recommend. They said no need pay in advance, but there is only superior and suite room according to them, but the http://www.panoramaygn.com show that got standard room, weird.
Here is a pic of a girl from the Shan State who was with me for 10 days 24x7.
How much you paid for the same time?
Thanks
Hi Bro,
Need your help. Me and a few friends eager to try the Burmese. However, we understand that we need a visa to go there. How to obtain the visa and is there any Visa On Arrival.
Thanks
Here is a pic of a girl from the Shan State who was with me for 10 days 24x7.
How much you paid for the same time?
ThanksMost of your 33 posts by you seek information from the board members. Is there a problem for not posting your trip reports of your past experiences?
RCA Knight
06-28-10, 11:59
From May 1, Myanmar introduced VOA for ALL nationalities in Yangon and Mandalay airports. 30 USD for 28 days. Very easy, I just went there for several days and got VOA in the airport.
From May 1, Myanmar introduced VOA for ALL nationalities in Yangon and Mandalay airports. 30 USD for 28 days. Very easy, I just went there for several days and got VOA in the airport.
Many thanks for the visa update. I'm planning a trip up there in 2 months and this is some helpful information.
Meeone,
Look in the Dhaka section, then answer correctly.
From May 1, Myanmar introduced VOA for ALL nationalities in Yangon and Mandalay airports. 30 USD for 28 days. Very easy, I just went there for several days and got VOA in the airport.RCA Knight,
What was the waiting time? Did the airlines Thai/AA allow boarding without the visa stamp?
Thanks.
Imperialist
06-29-10, 08:25
I am not just a sex tourist. I am a genuine tourist as well. I enjoy visiting stone temples and watch beautiful landscapes, as well as flesh temples and their beautiful curves. I do enjoy flesh temples more than I enjoy stone ones, but still. Besides, I need to justify my trip to friends, colleagues, and family. Even if they probably kind of know what I am up to (and I don't really care), everybody needs to at least have a semblance of face saving.This is really amazing the work. I am pretty sure that it is one of the best reports over here.
More over, this has really made me thinking that I should be visiting Burma soon.
RCA Knight,
What was the waiting time? Did the airlines Thai/AA allow boarding without the visa stamp?
Thanks.Yes please explain in more detail as there was a voa that you needed to book over the internet ahead of time.
RCA Knight,
What was the waiting time? Did the airlines Thai/AA allow boarding without the visa stamp?
Thanks.
Yes, please explain in detail how this is obtained? Thanks
RCA Knight
06-29-10, 18:51
When you arrive, you see a sign Visa on Arrival, fill out the visa form, go to the immigration counter and pay the 30 USD for the visa. It's so simple just like Vientiane airport or Bali or Jakarta airport. Nothing else to explain. Very straight forward process.
I took Silk Air from Singapore this time, using my award ticket. The flight was quite full but only a few applied VOA, I saw about 6 including me. I guess most of them have regular visa. Waiting time almost non. I guess it depends how many people apply VOA from your flight.
The immigration did not ask me a thing, but it's better to print out your return ticket, and have more than 300USD of funds in case they want to see.
The Silk Air checking in staff in Sing did not ask about the visa, maybe they are informed of the new system. If you fly AA from BKK or KL, I guess just tell the checking staff the new VOA system if they are not informed.
Traveler1234
06-29-10, 19:18
I took Silk Air from Singapore this time, using my award ticket.
Where are the pix and stories - we're all ears :D
Today I decided will be my touristy day of Mandalay, but first I try to find again that Indian restaurant. It proves impossible, even though it is supposed to be just a couple of blocks away from the hotel. Now only stand busy shops and hundreds of people. I give up.
I try to contact the driver of yesterday evening but they don’t seem to know him at the number he gave me, so I ask at the reception to get me another English-speaking driver. When he arrives, I test him out. His English is good, and he tells me that after sunset, yes, he can provide me with girls. That’s all I wanted to hear. I hire him and our first destination is the Golden City Crown hotel, where I decided to move in.
As the manager shows me the rooms around, he tells me I can have massage in my own room if I want. This of course was very enticing, and unusual for Burma, so I order the girl, only to be told by the massage parlor that if I want it in my room, I must take two girls, not just one, presumably so they can watch each other out. That’s still OK, but when the two girls actually arrive, another guy is with them, and aims to stand on the open door of the room to watch that we don’t do anything naughty. This now has turned into a farce and I throw everybody out.
We then set out to our first tourist destination: the Mahamuni pagoda.
Strangely enough, the best girls I have ever found was when I was being a simple tourist, while not really looking for it. Go figure, and this time around will be no exception.
The Mahamuni pagoda is quite interesting, fascinating even. Not so much for the temple itself, but for the live therein. It’s a busy place with sellers, monks, and visitors. I spend most of my time taking picture of people in the temple rather than the temple itself. The main statue is a Buddha who is supposed to bring you lucks if you stick golden leaf on it. He’s now fat and swollen with golden leafs, and it has an endless line of people worshipping it. At some stage, someone takes me by the hand and leads me to a stair climbing on the side of the Buddha. He gives me a golden leaf that I am supposed to stick on the statue, which I do. He then asks me $1 for it, and another $1 for him as a tip. Probably a rip off but what the hell. I give the two bills to him then climb back down.
I am not superstitious, but I must say the luck didn’t wait long to materialize, though I was not aware of this possible causal link at the time. Indeed, as I kept shooting pictures around, this time of another, smaller, Buddha, I become aware of a girl watching me. She wasn’t the first girl I saw in the temple. There are plenty of them: sellers, visitors, worshippers… Some are really cute, some are shy and some will gently smile back at you as you take their picture. However, this girl really stood out, as she was extremely pretty. I rated her straight ahead a 9.
I naturally wanted to get in touch with her so I asked her to stand next to the small Buddha statue for a pic, which she did. Then I ask a local guy to take a picture of her and myself next to the statue. For the pic, I put my harm around her shoulder and she let me do it. The guy who took the pic now asks if I can take a picture of him next to the statue also, which I do, then he wants to have his pic with the girl too. The girl goes to stand next to him, but when he too wants to put his harm around her shoulder, she absolutely refuses. I tell to myself that this is rather strange, because she didn’t make any problem for me. I took that as the first positive signal.
I try to speak with her but of course she does not speak a word of English. I gesture to her to come with me around the small museum that was there, which she does. I shoot pictures of statues, and then of her again. I really like her. At some stage, I gently touch her hair to signify to her that I like her, at which point she starts to speak something in her language, pointing her finger alternatively at me and at her, in a “you and me” fashion. I have no idea what she really means, and at this point it does not cross my mind for one second that she may be a sort of divine hooker of the temple, but I enthusiastically say “yes, yes, yes”.
She then gestures that she wants to eat. She wants to eat? OK, and I follow her. I would follow this girl anywhere, unconditionally. As I watch her walking in front of me, I think to myself that this is exactly the type of girls I like, but at the same time I think to myself that it’s a pity she is just a regular girl and not a hooker, and what a pity I can never find a hooker like that, that if I would get her, I would cancel at once all my other plans just to stay with her.
We sit down at a small shop and while she eats at my expenses, I keep shooting my camera around. When she’s done eating, she again gestures gently to follow her, which I very gladly do. I think to myself, “Now she is going to bring me to her friend’s shop to buy something”. What is not my surprise when, instead, she leads me out of the temple! Will she actually go with me outside and possibly to my hotel? I can’t believe it.
Of course, outside stands my driver. At last I am able to speak to the girl through him. It turns out that she is coming from one of the nearby villages to visit her family and came to pay her respect to the Buddha. So she says. I tell the driver to ask her if she would like to come with us. The driver says emphatically “No, no. For sure she does not want”. I reply, “I am not asking you. I am asking you to ask her!” What is not his surprise when she answers that yes, she would like to come! After all the signs she gave me, I expected it, but my driver is baffled. And me, I am still kind of in shock too, but by all means, totally under her divine spell, so even if it’s a crazy idea, off we all go into the car to our next destination, Mandalay Hill.
I sit in the front seat together with her. Space is not plenty, and she lies against me while I hold her tight. Yet another sign that she may be willing. I now start to faintly envision the possibility of my dream coming true. The driver has cooled off a bit and recovered from his surprise. He starts to ease off and let me know that it’s ok if I want to get this girl, and that he would help me if necessary,. If that is what she wants, which we don’t know yet. I ask him if he knows whether the Golden City Crown is girl friendly and if it would be OK to bring her there. He says that he is not sure about that, and that it is better to get another hotel for that purpose if I can afford it.
Before climbing the hill, we sit at a café and order some drink. During the conversation, I see him asking the girl something, and I see the girl answering by a quick raise of eyebrows. I lived in Asia long enough to recognize this as a discrete “yes” answer. I do not understand what they say but I am quite sure he asked her if she was interested to sleep with me. He tells me that while I am up the hill, he will speak to the girl, see what she wants exactly, and see if he can arrange a price. He asks me how much I’d like to give for her. I tell him that for this type of girl I am willing to give $50 up. Truth is that I actually would have given $100++ for her, but I also knew that she was just a girl from the province, and even $10 or $20 would already be plenty in her eyes. I also tell the driver that I will give a special tip for him, so no need to include that in the price (which he probably did anyway, I am not that naïve, but really, when for once I find a girl I really like, I don’t really care about money. It’s a rare enough event.)
When I climb down the hill and we get into the car again, this time me and her sitting at the back and a friend of the driver who knows of a good hotel sitting in front. The driver tells me that she is OK with the idea, and that she is not that expensive as she only wants $40. That makes me of course happy as hell. I try to cuddle her now that we have an agreement, but she keeps her distance and seems a bit tense, as if it was the first time or what, which I doubt.
The hotel is a little bit out of town, and I can’t make out the name written in Burmese. While the girl and the friend wait in the car, we enter the lobby with the driver and book a room. Of course they need the passport. I know that by now, so I just hand it over. The driver explains to them that I will get visitors later, and they seem OK with it. We get in the room and the driver go fetch the girl. When they arrive, I ask the driver to stay in the bathroom while I do the girl.
Now that was a great idea of mine to keep the driver around, because I got in trouble with the girl, and had he not been there to help, it would have been a complete different story. Indeed, as I want to take off her clothes, she refuses. I insist and she still refuses. I don’t understand. She was the one who basically wanted to come with me. Why is she resisting now? I tell the guide “She doesn’t want. I knew she wasn’t really a hooker. Let’s call the whole thing off and go home”, but he says no, she wants, but she is just very shy. He then starts to talk to her gently. I found out later as well that he really has a way with girls. She gets more at ease. To my surprise, he starts to gently pull off her top, and she lets him do it. To my even bigger surprise, he pulls her panty down and starts to fondle her pussy while still speaking to her! Strangely, this has for effect to put her even more at ease. Then he releases her to me! What a great job! As I said, if he wasn’t there, I would have given up already.
I now have this beautiful body in front of me. She is even better nude than dressed. I grant her a perfect 10 and start to play with her stunning body. One of the things I like to do is to rub against her cute butt. After I played enough, I move to the table where I kept my condom and prepare for more serious things. I cut out a condom and a jelly, as I foresee that she will be very tight. What is not my surprise as I look back at the girl to see my guide rubbing against her butt like I did! And apparently with great delight! Well, I like it, as I do like to share my girls if others are able to appreciate it. Even better, he gets the jelly from me and starts to apply it meticulously on the girl’s pussy, then on my own dick! After which he sets the girl in a doggy position for me to be able to enter her easily! I don’t think I ever got such a perfect assistance!
I am hard as a rock, especially since, for this very special circumstance, I exceptionally took a blue pill as I did not want to miss anything of this golden opportunity. She moans while I enter my big cock in her sweet pussy. I fuck her for a while dog style, then lay down, while still inside her, and fuck her flat on the bed, feeling her delicious butt on my balls. I flip her around and enter her from front. She really is very tight and still moaning; I think more of pain than pleasure. This does has for effect to put me slightly off, and actually prevents me to cum.
After a while, I had enough of it and dress back. The guide asks, “Are you finished?”. I tell him “Yes, am OK”. But he says “No, you did not cum, you are not happy. I want you to be happy”, then he starts to speak gently to the girl again. After a while of this, the girl stands up, comes to me, opens my zip, and starts to jack me off! This is great too, seeing this total beauty give a special treat to my cock!
I am leaning on the wall while she strikes me, and the guide is a little distance further and watches. I remember how delighted he was when rubbing against her, so I invite him to do the same now as her front is busy with me. Not only does he indulge, but to my surprise he puts down his pants and enters her too! After a while, we find ourselves on the bed, she still stroking me and the driver fucking her hard in various positions. The whole thing was now really exciting, with the guide fucking furiously that cute delicious looking girl, who at the same time was fiercely stroking me. That was just too much and I finally exploded!
This all certainly was a top high moment of my trip! I still get all excited just writing about it!
We all dressed up and I gave the girl the promised $40. In kiats! This means 40 bills of 1000 kiats! It sure looked a lot of money this way, especially for a girl who probably makes, if she’s lucky, one such bill every moon in a while. I still don’t know, in fact. I still am in a conundrum as to what this stunning girl was doing in the temple. If she was indeed a sort of a divine temple hooker, why in the world would she behave as if she never done it before? I just could not put it together. I decided that she was just a girl from the province, not a hooker, and that she got tempted at the opportunity of making a quick buck with a foreigner, but still very inexperienced at it.
We checked out and went outside, only to find out that the friend of my driver was gone, together with the car. We later found out he was just having a drink back in town! For the third time, I was at the border of a road in Mandalay, with my two companions, vainly trying to get a taxi. Luckily, we were rescued again, this time by guards at the hotel, who took us on their motorbike. On the way back to the temple we found the friend and got back the car. We then dropped the girl near the pagoda and drove back to my hotel. Needless to say, I was extremely happy with the guide’s service, so I gave him a large $50 tip on top of his $20, and I gave another $20 to his friend. All in all, not a cheap adventure, but worth every cent, and more.
I was of course more than delighted of my touristy adventure turning into a real dream! I am not sure it will ever happen again. At least not unless I stick another golden leaf on Buddha’s butts!
"golden leaf on Buddha’s butts" funny story.
Maybe I should try it next month.
RCA Knight
06-30-10, 03:47
Forget to mention, to get visa on arrival at Yangon airport, need to bring at least 2 pictures. Also fill out 2 visa forms, the same one, a immigration guy was there telling people to write 2 forms. Bring exactly 30USD, or be ready for a big delay when these immigration guys try to use the quantum computer to calculate the exchange rate.
1. I later went back several times to the Mahamuni pagoda in the hope to find that girl again, but to no avail, even after showing her photo to several guards, sellers and children hanging every day in the temple. Even when I was not in Mandalay, I asked the guide to go back and try to find her again, but with no more luck. I stuck several golden leafs on the Buddha, and I stayed around for hours shooting pictures as I did when it occurred, in the hope to meet another girl like her, but nothing happened anymore, and no more angel appeared in the focus. It really was just a one-off lucky encounter that could have happened anywhere in places frequented by both tourists and locals.
2. Cell phones are a rarity and a luxury in Burma, and permanent numbers even more. It costs something like $1,500 or $2,000 to get a permanent cell phone number. The numbers of the SIM cards you can buy for $20 last only a maximum of one month. This makes it very difficult to keep in contact with people. Furthermore, none of the locals to whom I gave my email address, telling them, “Write to me so we would have a mean to meet again” ever did it, including the Indian guide I met in Tachilek, and the one I met in Mandalay. I was able to meet the later again by going back to the Mandalay City hotel, the place where I stayed before the Golden City Crown hotel, and ask for the same guide with a red car which they provided me before, but that was sheer luck.
"golden leaf on Buddha’s butts" funny story.
Maybe I should try it next month.Let us know what you find. Am curious...
2 more weeks from my Yangon virgin trip
My travel agency recommend me to change the money at Summit Park View Hotel. They said it is better than Central & Panorama. I wonder if the rate is as good as the scott market.
Still got little question
1. How u change money when the scott market close?
2. The disco/club entrance fees is pay in USD or Kyat ? How about the drinks.
3. Can i pay taxi in USD?
2 more weeks from my Yangon virgin trip
My travel agency recommend me to change the money at Summit Park View Hotel. They said it is better than Central & Panorama. I wonder if the rate is as good as the scott market.
Still got little question
1. How u change money when the scott market close?
2. The disco/club entrance fees is pay in USD or Kyat ? How about the drinks.
3. Can i pay taxi in USD?1.Jewelry shop. Hussler on the street may bring you there
2.You can pay in kyat or USD they accept both
3. Yes, dollars or kyatt
1.Jewelry shop. Hussler on the street may bring you there
2.You can pay in kyat or USD they accept both
3. Yes, dollars or kyattIt seems that everything can pay by USD.
I assume that i can pay the ladies by USD too, right?
Maybe i should ask what things cannot pay by USD ? small restaurant?
4 days to go, Rangon I'm cumming.
The thread is very quite, i'll write some report after come back.
Doppel One
07-25-10, 08:38
4 days to go, Rangon I'm cumming.
I'll write some report after come back.Hey Malibu21,
I'm heading over to Yangon next month for the first time so I eagerly await your reports on the current state of play (likewise, I'll post my findings on this board).
Have a great trip, and I hope you find a few gems!
Cheers.
4 days to go, Rangon I'm cumming.
The thread is very quite, i'll write some report after come back.Please do.
Just come back from yangon
It is a quite nice place, ppl are very nice and friendly, just like thailand 20 years ago. The food and transport is cheap. It is raining everyday, so i don't suggest go to the golden rock in this raining season.
Stay in the Panorama Hotel book thru Santa Maria Travel Agency, highly recommend their service. The hotel rooms is big and near to market, definitely the best offer in downtown. Free breakfast is good, 7-10am.
Money Exchange
Panorama Reception 1USD= 900Kyat
Panorama hotel staff change at 1USD=950 (good if u arrive late when market close)
Market 1020-1050Kyat
Most ppl prefer Kyat except hotel, temple pagoda and aiport, so better get more kyat in your pocket.
Massage
Central Hotel, Food & Body both same price, US$5. Just dry massage, no oil massage, the girl is pretty and young but no hanky panky.
Room Service
Can ask the hotel guy send girl to your rooms for overnight, about $25, but quality not so good.
Restaurant
Don't go to Zero Zone Restaurant opposite the Emporer as suggest by some book or guide, very bad place, run down and serve worst food. The staff can't speak english, very slow service.
Here is some disco/club info
JJ
Entrance $3, owner is Chinese. Disco style with some karaoke room available, the largest among all these place, with some ladyboy show and indian dancing show. A very good place, if you only can go to 1 place, go to JJ. It is located at Mingalar Market, Set Yon Road. Many young burmese guys come to have fun too. They JJ girl want kyat only in the morning, no USD. JJ will charge you very bad exchange rate if you pay in USD. Bring more kyat to this place.
Emporer
Entrance $3, owner is Chinese. Many fashion show, very dark, not my cup of tea. I think it is same boss with JJ, both are Chinese style.
Asia Plaza
Entrance $5, very quite place not so many customer, but is is very near to Panorama, just turn two time right when you come out of Panorama. Price more easy to bargain since their biz is not so good. Must go if you stay in Panorama.
Park Royal Music Club
Entrance $5, more like a freelancer place, with live band. High end place, many foreigner.
Best time to go 9pm-10pm. Tips is about US$3-5 for the lady if you didn't bar fine her. No lady drinks need. I'm not sure about the tips is compulsory or not, because nobody mention the tips is necessary in this forum. The fashion model is about $50-$100, some don't do, you have to discuss with the girl. Buy the garland for the model is US$5. The price to go back hotel at late night is almost standard US$2.
Airport Transport is US$6. When go back, you need to pay the US$10 airport tax first before check-in.
Malibu21, thanks for the report. Do you by any chance have latest prices for the girls at the disco/clubs? $50 - $100 for the girls at that last place seem pretty steep.
Denom, any chance you will continue with the reports since the last was day 4 of 12? Really interested since I would like to visit this winter. Thanks.
Hi Malibu21. So I recon you didn't go to Mandalay after all?
I agree about the Panarama, except for the breakfast, though it does have the basics. Reasonable for the price, though. Would be nice if it would be available later than 10 am for those of us who go out late at night.
I also agree about JJ. What I really like about it is that they have a separate room than the disco, just next to it, a simple café restaurant, nothing fancy but quieter and lighter, just perfect to sit and chat with the girls. Quite a few stunners around as well. By far the best choice of all the discos in my opinion. Not for those who expect a high class five star environment, though. I just worry the place will get spoiled before I have a chance to go back ;)
Malibu21, thanks for the report. Do you by any chance have latest prices for the girls at the disco/clubs? $50 - $100 for the girls at that last place seem pretty steep.
Denom, any chance you will continue with the reports since the last was day 4 of 12? Really interested since I would like to visit this winter. Thanks.Hi Toronto. The real stunners will go from $100 up, though I had a really nice one for just $60, and of course there is always the chance encounter that could be cheaper. To get a decent looking girl for $30-50 would be luck. Street girls go as low as $20 but 2 in 100 are decent looking, with the occasional jewel, though (strangely). Overall don't expect olden days Thai/Cambodian low prices. Even now, I would say that price/choice ratio of Thailand is still better. Myanmar mostly good for the exotic aspect.
About the report. Good you remind me. Will try to find the time to continue. Can't promise, though. It's been pretty hectic of late.
Park Royal Music Club
Entrance $5, more like a freelancer place, with live band. High end place, many foreigner.
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Best time to go 9pm-10pm. Tips is about US$3-5 for the lady if you didn't bar fine her. No lady drinks need. I'm not sure about the tips is compulsory or not, because nobody mention the tips is necessary in this forum. The fashion model is about $50-$100, some don't do, you have to discuss with the girl. Buy the garland for the model is US$5. The price to go back hotel at late night is almost standard US$2.Start from the "Best time to go 9-10pm" is comment for all the disco/club. 8pm is way too early to me, some just open with no girl no show. The Park Royal don't have any fashion show, it is just a very nice pub with some freelancer, difference from other club. It is something like the Vietnam Disco Freeelancer style. Some fashion model might cheat you said will come to your room after work to make u buy them garland. Taxi from Panorama to chinatown can bargain down to 1000kyat, to JJ about 1500kyat. The expenses is very low, US$100 per day is enough, included massage temple food hotel drinks and girl also, if u eat cheap and know how to bargain the price.
Hi Malibu21. So I recon you didn't go to Mandalay after all?
I agree about the Panarama, except for the breakfast, though it does have the basics. Reasonable for the price, though. Would be nice if it would be available later than 10 am for those of us who go out late at night.
I also agree about JJ. What I really like about it is that they have a separate room than the disco, just next to it, a simple café restaurant, nothing fancy but quieter and lighter, just perfect to sit and chat with the girls. Quite a few stunners around as well. By far the best choice of all the discos in my opinion. Not for those who expect a high class five star environment, though. I just worry the place will get spoiled before I have a chance to go back ;)Panorama breakfast is good for a 3 star standard hotel. The girls always leave early morning maybe 7-8pm, but I saw some very young girl always have breakfast with 2 japanese guy, and 2-3 table also have some girl with them. Wonder why.
It is a short trip, so didn't make it to Mandalay. I check with the Santa Maria, the return air ticket is about US$150 to mandalay. If take bus is about 10-15 hours. I have some very close myanmar friend want to bring me to their hometown around mandalay, maybe try it next year.
So far I'm quite satisfied with Yangon, a little better than Phnom Penh Cambodia in my opinion. The non-working girl is very friendly and seems very interested with the tourist, far more better than the Thailand. If you have 1-2 weeks time, try to date them, but it is not easy to ask them out.
Doppel One
08-05-10, 10:55
Has anyone had any recent experience of the massage parlour scene in Rangoon (where ST is possible)? And is there a brothel district within Rangoon which is safe for guys like us? I know this end of the market is rather dubious and far grubbier than the fashion shows and discos, but any information would be appreciated.
Thanks guys.
Hi Toronto. The real stunners will go from $100 up, though I had a really nice one for just $60, and of course there is always the chance encounter that could be cheaper. To get a decent looking girl for $30-50 would be luck. Street girls go as low as $20 but 2 in 100 are decent looking, with the occasional jewel, though (strangely). Overall don't expect olden days Thai/Cambodian low prices. Even now, I would say that price/choice ratio of Thailand is still better. Myanmar mostly good for the exotic aspect.
About the report. Good you remind me. Will try to find the time to continue. Can't promise, though. It's been pretty hectic of late.
Thanks for the update, for some reason I was thinking less than $50 for the girls from clubs/discos. I may have just misread the previous reports. $100 and up seems like a lot relatively that is (not a lot in absolute terms for us of course). I will go anyway because I am interested as a tourist.
Thanks for the update, for some reason I was thinking less than $50 for the girls from clubs/discos. I may have just misread the previous reports. $100 and up seems like a lot relatively that is (not a lot in absolute terms for us of course). I will go anyway because I am interested as a tourist.You can find a lot of girls in the clubs below $50 and some of them can be up to rating 8. More typically it would be $30-$40 I think for the majority of girls. Depends what you are looking for. As for me, I live in the Philippines, where pussy is cheap and the plenty, so when I travel I only aim for the stunners, at least a rating 8 or 9, though 7 or even 6 would do if I am horny or desperate. Stunners can be quite quite expensive, so what I am saying is just expect the best looking fashion show models to be that high. At least that was my experience, but others possibly have better negociating skills. Note that I only referred to the real stunners in my sentence.
Now, of course, everything is relative, and what is a rating 9 for me can be a rating 6 for someone else and reversely. I would say it's worth going for the exotic factor alone and to make your own mind. The potential is there, but one day can bring nothing and the next day a lot.
RCA Knight
08-05-10, 19:32
I spent 2 nights in Yangon several weeks ago, before traveled to Bagan.
I think 100USD girls are probably the super high end, even 50USD girls are on the expensive side. I did not meet anyone asking me 100. In Empire, most girls ask around 30, some willing to go 25. At late hours, the leftovers probably would go below that.
I personally don't think the quality in Myanmar is that good, and service is that great. Maybe the bad water quality, many have bad skin. But most girls are quite friendly. Most of them prefer Kyat.
I used to stay at Panorama several times, but now I switch to Summit Parkview or Kandawgyi Palace, maybe 10 to 20 USD above Panorama, but the ambient is much better and good breakfast.
BTW, the flights to Bagan are very full, better reserve in advance. My both way were completely full with people on waiting list.
OK. After overwhelming popular demand (just one guy in fact, haha ;-) I decided to complete my series the “quick and dirty way” and to post all my remaining drafts. Especially since I will be traveling again and will have even less time. And a backlog as well. Anyway, I guess you guys mostly just want the information and do not mind style. Here it comes; hold on to your seats…
I was due to fly to Bagan on day 5 but after the adventure of yesterday, I decided to extend my stay in Mandalay for a day, so I postponed my flight for 24h. Having found a guide that not only spoke reasonably well English, but also was a great help with the girls, I wanted to maximize that discovery and took on his offer to bring me today to see the surroundings of Mandalay. I thought that maybe another occasion will present itself, plus it actually is worth it from a tourist point of view as well, since the main attractions are more outside of Mandalay than in town.
Our first destination was the Mahagandhayon monastery, followed by the wooden bridge nearby, then on to AVA across the river. On the way, he convinced me that it was better to go Bagan by car rather than fly, because this gives the opportunity to see the countryside, the “real Burma”. For $140 he would drive me there. It would take about five hours. It would also allow us to see Mount Popa on the way. It was about $100 more expensive than the airplane but the idea was not bad, plus it would give me the opportunity to retain his services. I thus canceled my flight and we decided to leave on the same afternoon, after we visited the main spots around Mandalay.
Actually, I didn’t make use of his services, other than driving, for these two days, because we came empty handed as far as girls go. There was nothing on the way to Mount Popa, the country side being extremely conservative. Even the pagoda girl of yesterday would do absolutely nothing in the social context of her village. Girls are really expected to stay virgin until they marry, and if there was a suspicion that she was not virgin anymore (the simple fact of going away from the village and into town could make her look suspicious), nobody would want to marry her, which would be a sort of anatem for the family.
I told the guy that this looked so harsh on the girl, but even more so on the men. What would they do in the mean time? Just jack off? He answered that for the men it actually was not a problem at all, because they could go to the “meat market”. He told me the meat market, which I thought at the time the equivalent of the “chicken farms” in Cambodia, are somewhere out of town. I asked him why the hell then you people don’t take us foreigner there when we are hungry for meat blood in Mandalay. He told me that maybe because these places are a bit far out of town, and that normally only locals go there. OK, so I learned something new, and I told him that next time I am in Mandalay, please take me to visit these “meat markets”.
Mount Popa was spectacular but no chicks in sight and nothing at all in Bagan as well. Not even meat markets. He called his friends, who told him that there was nothing at all to be found in Bagan, and I went around several cheap guest houses who all told me that there was no way I could find girls in that town, apart maybe a massage girl in a bigger hotel. In the evening, though, the driver stopped on a road in town and spoke to some girls. They were SW and I would not have noticed them if he didn’t tell me they were. The girls explained to him that the police was very strict in Bagan, and that the town itself was too small, so authorities could easily control everything and enforce their policy. The best SW could do was to sit there by the road for a couple of hours before dark, and even that would not spare them from the monkey house if they got caught.
Well, it’s a pity, because the temples and pagoda that are spread over a very large area would make interesting and exciting hideouts for kinky activities. A family I had met the day before told me when I saw them by chance walking between the temples that they are just going to take their shower inside one of them. I would not have minded taking my shower together with them but of course that wouldn’t be respectable, so I didn’t bother mention anything. Same for the women selling post cards and other local specialties around the main tourist spots – even if they would want to do something, they really could not, because of the social environment. And remember, no cell phones through which you could maybe arrange some secret meetings. It’s a very controlled society, both from a familial point of view, and of course from a governmental point of view.
For that matter, my guide explained a bit on the way how people actually feel suppressed by the regime, and how the political system only benefits the few rich and wealthy in the country. The lack of freedom was suffocating, he said, and the depressed surroundings of big towns, with run down building, and decrepit overpriced 1960’s cars plowing the collapsing streets, kept on reminding them that short of true freedom, nothing will really move or change. Their major outlet was gathering around TV sets in and out “Tea houses” to watch football.
This being said, I did have a sexual encounter ruing these two days. It was in Ava, a town that is in the surrounding of Mandalay, before leaving for Bagan, but that was with a young man, not a girl.
Indeed, the horse cart driver I was assigned to for touring around Ava while my driver was waiting at the entrance, was cute and sexy. I was also curious to find out what lay under the longyi most of the men wear. Do they have underwear, and how do the ensure themselves it doesn’t fall down? As he drove me around, I asked about that piece of clothe. How do they tight it? Can I try it out? He said that he will show me, and asked how about exchanging my pant (a Camel pant with lots of pocket) against his longyi? I told him that if he let me try his, I will let him try mine. So, after a few more signals while visiting the temples that he may be willing (for example, him hugging in a sexy manner one of the huge teak pillars inside the Bagaya monastry), he stopped in a deserted area and we went behind some bushes to exchange our clothes.
I found out then that men apparently don’t use underwear under their lonyi, so when he took it out, he was naked under it, and I saw, with no surprise, that he was half excited as well. I took out my pants too and then I took out my underwear, explaining to him that he should put that one before the pant. Of course he could see that I kind of liked him too, and commented how big it was… I myself put the underwear on him, making sure by touching all around that it did fit, and he let me do it. He then put on my pant, and me his longyi. Strangely, these are not pieces of cloth that you wrap around your tight, as I first thought. These are actually a sort of dress that you enter into, and then tight it up with a special knot. OK, so I learned how it’s done, at last.
To my surprise, he now starts to empty the pockets of my pants. He apparently thought that I was really going to exchange it for his longyi! I tell him no! We only exchange it to try it out, but he cannot have it! He’s OK with it and put my things back. Now we undress again to put our respective clothes back. When nude underneath, I start to strike myself. He laughs. Then I start to strike him as well and he let me do it. I end up rubbing on his firm butts, and then suck him dry, before cumming myself. He later mentions that it’s very nice to put it in the ass, showing he is not unfamiliar with these practices. We then resumed the tour after this pleasant and culturally interesting interlude.
When we arrived back at the entrance, I gave him $5 for the ride, and a tip of $10. He seemed quite happy with it. At least I was happy too that I had this opportunity to learn more about the longyi, in a rather pleasant way, and that I could live up to the true meaning of “The Road to Mandalay”.
In Bagan, we stayed at the Thande hotel (be careful there are two of them at different locations). For $30 you get a nice room with a good swimming pool, beautiful garden and amazing huge trees that are a bird universe on their own. I have never seen trees so big. You can spend hours watching the life plying under their leafs. The hotel has an excellent price/quality ratio, and this knowing that some of the hotels in Bagan can easily reach past $200 and more!
In the morning, I tried the massage girl. She will indeed come into the room. This is very unusual in Myanmar, so I did not expect much. Things turned as I thought: nothing about sex. I tried to start the massage nude but she turned her head away and told me to put a short, which I did. From then on I knew nothing would follow. I used my guide as a translator to speak to her while she was massaging me, and so learned about various aspects of the Burmese mentality.
After enjoying the pool until check out time at 12 noon, we went to a travel agency to get a ticket back to Rangoon for the afternoon, and another ticket back to Bangkok on the following day. It took them nearly three hours as they often had to wait that electricity was restored to access the hyper slow Internet which they used to get the ticket confirmation. I did not mind because I wanted to catch up with RTFM on Yangon, as I was still so far behind, and anyway I had nothing else to do, having given up any hope to find meat in Bagan. I thus learned reading the forum about the message ladies under the bridge of the Panorama. I never saw them before; or rather I never paid attention. This is the kind of useful things you learn on ISG :)
After a last tour of the deserted temples, I part with my guide at the airport, paying him his due: $140 for the trip, $60 for two days sight seeing, plus an additional $40 tip. This was also the time when I asked him to try and find that pagoda girl again when he got back to Mandalay, in case I would come back to the place.
In retrospect, though, I suspect that it would have been better to have taken the airplane instead (a mere $40 dollars) and hire a local English-speaking guide to visit the temples in stone and flesh. They at least would know the local girly scene better, not speaking about them being more knowledgeable of the tourist spots. However, I did not regret it, because after the Mandalay adventure, I just had to try out this formula.
My first order of the day upon arriving back in Yangoon was to use the English-speaking taxi driver at the airport to show me where the Emperor was, as I had problems with drivers before just understanding the name of the place. He did drive me to the Emperor street, but instead dropped me in front of another establishment on the same street, marked in Burmese alphabet, as it was still a bit early for the Emperor. You take the usual shaky elevator, then more steps, going through some maze of corridors and arrive to a somewhat seedy massage place. Apparently you get to be alone in the room with the lady, with closed door that also did not have the usual window. However, the only lady I could see was nothing to talk about, and I was not allowed to look at the other ones, so I declined.
I made an advance visit of the Emperor and the Palace, it was about 19:30 at the time, the place was empty and the girls only started to arrive. You could see some inside, and more outside as they arrived. Those I saw were nothing special. I was told to come back later, at 9 or 9:30 pm.
Walking out into the street, a bicycle driver invites me to check his ladies. I embark and he then stops in a small street where he makes a phone call. We then wait for the girls at another corner. Two girls arrive but they are terrible. Ratings of 3 to 4, so I very quickly decline and tell the guy to drive me back to the Emperor’s street. There, he hands me to another touts who claims to have very beautiful girls, but then brings me to the club next to the massage parlor I just visited. I fail to see the point. As if I could not just check these girls inside the club for myself. By that time I am rather tired and somewhat disappointed about what is on offer on the Emperor’s street, so I decide to try the massage girls under the Panorama bridge in the hope she could help in providing girls straight to my bed.
The massage girl was really not my type at all. A fat, middle-aged lady, though with a pretty face. The massage was nothing spectacular until she flipped me over, and more and more started to rub on Willie who respectfully responded. She kept on massaging other parts of the body too, though, which was nice. All of a sudden, she sits on me. I realize she had no more underwear and that this fat lady wants to fuck me right there, condomless at that. She managed to raise my energy enough, though, so I told her to at least put a condom, which she promptly did. Now the interesting thing here is that while she was fucking me, she continued to massage the upper part of my body. That was quite nice, because it was sort of a “total massage”, just massaging Willie with her pussy while she continued massaging me with her hands. Now me, who like slim and light girls, I was there under this mass of flesh and bones, and it turned out that I kind of liked it, exceptionally, because you can really feel the weight of the body on you. Not exciting enough for me to cum, though, so now she is giving me hand and blow jobs. The nice thing here is that, because she knew that she is a type that would not attract people, she went way beyond anything other girls would do. She excelled in service, and no matter how long it took, she would do whatever necessary for me to cum. One of the things I like in these situations is for my prostate to be massaged at the same time, and she did that the plenty, especially after I showed her how to do it the right way. I felt like a little boy manhandled in her big hands, and this had kind of a nice feeling to it, so eventually I cummed. It really was not what I expected, but was kind of nice.
The next big surprise was that she proceeded to cut my foot and hand nails. I actually tried to find a pedicure in Bagan, without success, so that was a very welcome extra. Even more surprising was that she took out a sort of knife (not a scissor) and just cut and cleaned the nails using that, something I never saw before. She was totally professional and very obviously must have worked in that field before, because the work was perfectly executed. This completed the session with a very good overall feeling, and of course there was never question of bringing young and beautiful girls, as was my initial intention. Anyway her English was totally non-existent. Normally the massage was to be 4 dollars but now she is asking for $50. I tell her no way, but because of the good service I gave her $25. She was extremely pleased and she was so nice and cute thanking me and blessing me repeatedly for that money that I gave her another $5.
Now strangely, this session had completely rested and relaxed me. It was really a total massage, and with nail service on top of that. I felt great and completely rejuvenated. It was now about 10:30 pm and I remembered reading that the Emperor closed at 11, so I took a cab to go there. There were even more touts than before in front but I told them to leave me alone with their supposedly beautiful girls that turns out to be just ugly ordinary bitches. I get in the Emperor and do as advice by this board, quickly shunning away the 10 or so girls that come to you as you enter and try to polarize your attention. I fancy none of the other girls I saw. The models are definitely a notch or two higher, though nothing that in my eyes would reach more than 7. One of the models sits next to me and starts to cuddle me. She is actually nice, soft and cute, and I am tempted to take her, but I do resist and eventually head off for the door.
Once out I am again assailed by touts, but I now have nothing else to do. I took one of of them who at least spoke some English and off we go with a taxi. Same circus: phone and wait on another corner. Only this time, one of the two girls that were presented was really very beautiful, at least an 8-9 if not more, and I agree to get her for $30, paid in advance but not before we get to the hotel, which they agree.
Remembering the problems I had with the ***** at my hotel before leaving for Mandalay (her wanting to leave early and opening the door calling on the door men, making a scene, etc) I want to take the girl in a short time hotel instead. I was also curious as to what was to be found, and I remembered how impossible it was to find something without passport in Mandalay, so I was curious as to how it would go in Rangoon. Indeed, there is apparently no problem to find a hotel that would accept foreigner without passport in Rangoon. The problem was, however, that they were either full or had no light. Finally we found one that had both a room and light. I pay the hotel $13 (no other formalities), the agreed-upon $30 in advance, plus the taxi $5, then take the girl to the room.
Now as stunning this girl was, as nil she was in bed. I was very happy with her look. I granted her a perfect 10 once nude. She was even better than the pagoda girl from Mandalay. As a matter of fact, she just had a perfect and flawless body. One of the best bodies I ever saw. But for the rest, although she would put no resistance in me undressing her and playing with her body while standing, once she laid down, she would just stay there like a puppet and make all kinds of complain even though I had not entered her yet. This time I was on my own and did not have the precious help of my guide. I decide to take a break by getting a shower, but by the time I came back to the ,bed she was up and half dressed, and there was no way I could get her to undress again and come back to the bed. She now complains that she is hungry and wants to eat. I thought that if I bring her some food, she may soften up. I go out to buy food at the street stall that was in front of the hotel, but when I come back, what is not my surprise to see the room empty! I enquire with the reception who said that she did not go out. She must have gone hiding into another room! Incredible…
A few days later I found out what happened. She had never been with a foreigner before and had heard all kinds of horror stories about it, so she was dead frighten. When she saw that I was kind and would not beat her if she resisted, she used that to her advantage to put out an increasing resistance and to eventually escape. This was the first time something like that would happen to me. I drew the conclusion from that, that when you have the chance to have a girl of that caliber in bed, fuck her as soon as possible, because God knows what would happen if you just lose time to play around.
By then, however, I was very horny, as her stunning body put me in appetite. I was of course quite frustrated too. It was well past midnight. The street was dark and near empty, and I had no idea where I was. I got a taxi back to the Emperor street again, but the taxi who were waiting there had no girls on offer this time. I didn’t want to spend time going through the whole disco circus again, so I took the first offer that came up, which was that of a bicycle driver. He brought me a bit further down the street of the Traders hotel, where 3-4 girls were to be found. I ended up taking a girl I would rate only 6-7 at most, just to be done with big hard Willie. They brought me to a local hotel, where normally foreigners are not allowed, but since it only was for an hour… I paid $10 for the room and $20 for the girl. Quite overrated and I am sure I could get away with just $10, but I was too tired to negotiate. The girl turned out to be of an even lower rate with her clothes off, maybe a 4-5, and she did all the “I cover myself with a towel” shit. The fucking was nothing special, but at least released me.
By the time I finished, it was about 3am and called it a day. Back in my hotel I fell asleep, still embalmed with the scent of that perfect girl I could not consume. At least I knew now, that sometimes jewels could be found on Rangoon’s fractured sidewalks.
I was supposed to fly back to Bangkok on that day, but I was so happy with the girl yesterday, and at the same time so frustrated, that I decided to extend for a day. I went to the Vega travel agency next to Central hotel to change the ticket but they told me that since I did not buy it through them, I had to go to the main office in the Sakura building. That’s the one big building in Yangon where all the airlines and other travel agencies are located, the one that has “Hitachi” written on its roof top and is facing Traders hotel. I was initially quoted $50 to change the date when I first bought the ticket in Bagan, but this turned out to be the no-show fee. Changing the date was in fact free and rather painless. A good surprise!
I then checked the Park Royal hotel in an attempt to get a room with Internet access, but they quoted me a price over $100, which I only could bring down to $85. Way more than Panorama, just to have (a probably very slow) internet connection. It was not worth it. Of course, it is a Shangri-la hotel and very posh indeed.
I spent most of the remaining day in my room, trying to catch up on ISG (which I never could finish, am a fast typist but a slow reader). I had seen what the town had to offer during the day and my only target was for the evening.
I did go out to check the internet, though, and also for trying to find kamagra. As I did, I bumped into an Indian guy who told me I can buy Kamagra in a “City Mart” (which surprisingly is true, though it has another name), but also that he has a friend selling an even bigger choice, so I went with him to check this out. It was a street stand and indeed had many different products with various names, but I did not really trust any so did not buy anything. Most products were Indian sub-varieties with strange names. There are so many fakes around and anyway they were trying to charge me $10 for 4 when I knew that the normal price for such is half or even less.
The Indian guy then offered me ladies, which I was not interested at that time, until he claimed they were “in a house”, i.e., not the phone boot calling girls, and he said it also was not a hotel but a private house and that I could use the room on the spot. This sounded unusual compared to what I’ve seen so far so it made me curious and I went with him to see.
It turned out to be true. The place is in China town, and they do have girls on the spot, with rooms. Choice of five to seven girls, average looking but friendly and smiling. I did not partake any. He offered to show me more places but when it turned out to be just a restaurant where, after consuming a beer, they could call a girl, I declined to see more. Anyway, interesting to know they do have on-spot places, even if apparently very few, but you’ll need a guide as the places are totally invisible otherwise.
In the evening, around 9:30-10pm, I checked the Palace again, in the same building as Emperor. I got only the end of the fashion show, and then it was disco time. Not many customers and not that many girls either but, maybe because I was in a better mood or because of the setup, or maybe because they dressed better, I found the girls in the Palace better than in Emperor. I would rate them up to 8. They were really cute and attractive, but again I did not partake any, hoping to find better outside. Another strange thing was that while the street was thriving with touts jumping on you with offers yesterday, nothing now. Just a couple of touts barely interested to offer anything. Go figure…
Anyway, the same guy as the one of yesterday was there. I explained to him what happened to the girl, and asked him to get another one. He promised me that he will look to it that this time the girl will stay until 5-6 am, and off we go again.
Unfortunately, this time he didn’t manage to get me anything close to the wonder he found yesterday. I tried to explain to him that I want “the same type of girl as the one of yesterday but not that girl, another one”. Absolutely impossible. When I start to say “same same but”, he thought that I want the same girl. I say no. He is confused. And that was the best English-speaking tout of the lot! Never mind, I check out the other girls he had on offer.
These guys have a long list of phone numbers, and in fact they don’t know exactly what girl their contacts have. They stop at a phone boot and make a few calls, trying to locate what the customer wants, but they are also dependent of what the pimps tell them, and they are not always responsible if the reality does not correspond to what was told to them, and the pimps do lie a lot in the hope to get the customer.
The first two girls he got were not that bad, but barely 6-7. I did not take them and the girls didn’t seem happy about it, getting out of the car angrily slamming the door. More phone calls and now we are heading out of China town, and, lo and behold, in the very same place where I got my gingling jewel before, near the “Lucky World” restaurant. The girl they found there was not good enough for me, though slightly better, a 7-8, so I declined as well, being just slightly tempted. Finally, from the same place, after a long time and quite a few other girls shown in between, they get me a rather cute one, on which I immediately say yes. Not as nice as the one of yesterday, but still an attractive cute 7-8 – plus I was tired of saying no all the time.
Now starts the run for the hotel. One after the other, they were all full. I tried to explain to them that there was a very good hotel near the lake but, not having the name of it, it was impossible to find. Next time I should carry the card of these hotels with me. They even checked out the busy Olympic hotel, but at $40 the room I declined. I did show them the card (writen in burmese only) of the guest house or what I went to yesterday late at night but they all started laughing, saying that these places are no good as no aircon etc (as if I care) and that they mostly are for locals. In fact, it did not matter to me, all I wanted was a bed to fuck the girl and go, but they refused to take me there. Adding to this the language problem, I gave up. Finally they found a $15 hotel near the Eastern hotel, with fairly big rooms.
The girl was really cute and on top of this, much to the contrary of the one yesterday, had a joyfull and nice character, and more than willing to indulge in the deed, with decent BBBJ at that. Unfortunately, she was only a 6-7 once nude and I kept comparing her in my mind to the girl of yesterday, to which at the end she did not come close.
After a week of mongering/touristing I was weary and basically by now just wanted to go back home in the Philippines, to quietly sit in my tropical paradise, with sweet ladies taking care of my every needs. Adventure has only attraction up to a certain points, after which a fatigue sets in and you don’t “register” anymore, even if you were on the moon. It was more by curiosity than real need that I did this last round, and now I saw. So after giving a generous $10 tip to the girl, I when back to my hotel.
I was happy of this extra day, though, because otherwise I would have left Burma with the wrong idea that perfect 10 are commonly and easily to be found. No so. It only is the exception, but at least there are still exceptions in Myanmar. Plus I didn’t yet got to the bottom of it all, so I planned to come at the next opportunity.
after leaving burma i took a few weeks rest in my philippines paradise. after that, i had to fly to europe for business, but reserved 10 days to travel on the way.
i went to bangkok to get the myanmar visa, and while waiting for it to get ready, got a quick peek at cambodia as it had been a couple of years i have been there. cambodia is now the shadow of its glorious past. all the good places are closed and the government has become so conservative that they even plan to close the 50+ guest houses along the national road 6 because “people have sex inside and this is bad for society” – if you ever heard such an idiotic and absurd statement. there’s only one place left on street 63 where you can find vietnamese girls, if they let you in at all (they actually don’t like foreigners anymore)). the more known places such as martini, sharkey, walkabout, shangai, heart of darkness etc, are still there, plus a series of small bars around street 104 – but really nothing fancy and, in my opinion, nothing worth going to cambodia for anymore. pattaya is still booming, but i’ll give a miss to cambodia until those people come back to their senses, if they ever do.
i then quickly escape back to myanmar, where at least you can find still find the occasional pearl, and where things are still somewhat rough and original, a bit like thailand and cambodia in the good old time (but alas very far from it). when i landed in yangon, the flight for mandalay was just departing, so i decided to have a peak in mandalay first. indeed, that was the place of my most memorable adventure, and i just had to try to find that girl again, even though the chances were very slim.
on the way to the hotel, i checked the temple again in the hope to find the girl (or another one), but wasn’t so lucky this time. still, it’s a fascinating place to be and worth re-seeing, but nothing girl-wise. i went back the next morning, together with my guide, and we even showed her photos around, but again just absolutely nothing. well, at least i tried…
on the day i arrived back in mandalay, i was lucky enough to get my good guide again, and we went that same evening to check the “meat market” he told me about on the way to bagan. he drove quite far, almost out of town, for about 15 minutes and then through a maze of dirt roads that would be absolutely impossible to find back. we arrived at a big wooden house along a railway track and as we approached they immediately opened the huge gates. insides were 30 to 50 girls, of the usual quality you find in those places, i.e. 5-6, with the occasional 7. no 8 like i found in tachilek, though. price quoted was 10,000 kiats ($10), which apparently is the local price. i don’t think they are used to see foreigners there anyway. room on spot was included.
and that was it. i told my driver: “that’s it? that’s the “meat market”, just one house”? “yes”, was his answer. nothing like the chicken farms of rural cambodia, where you have a series of small shaks one after the other. it’s just one house, maybe a couple of others spread far apart, and very secretive (they change location from time to time). it would be impossible for a foreigner to find them without help, and even the local people may not know of where they are, or may not be willing to bring a foreigner there. anyway, it really is nothing worth it.
it was late already so, after checking what as on offer on the dam around the palace (nothing in fact, only a few lovers sitting around), i retired to my hotel for an early sleep, having seen already before what else there was in this town (singing ladies, etc).
As foreseen, around 9 am, my guide came to fetch me and together we went back to check the temple in the vain hope to find the girl.
No trace of her, but, again, it just is very pleasant to stroll around there, for the combination of market life and devotion. Many sellers, but also visitors, with nice Burmese girls, who get so gracious as they sit around in prayer. There also was at the time a wedding, with a lot of people wearing fancy traditional clothes, great photos opportunity. But for the very much sought for the girl(s), nada…
Back to Yangoon, I try to see if the Panda hotel, $30, has wireless in the room but no (only in the lobby), and I also check a hotel in China town to be close to the action but the area is just too noisy, and they don’t have wireless either, so back to the Panorama. I tell the manager that she should arrange to have wifi in the room and she says that they are working on it.
After some rest I set out to the Emperor street. After a bit of walking around, I find the tout I used before and off we go on the hunt again, but first I want to get the first girl again, the one who slipped away from the room as I went out to buy her food. I figured out that it would be more prudent to get her while she was still available. This time around this was a very good idea of mine and we did find her easily. It is then that I learned that she went away because she was afraid, as it was the first time she had a foreigner, but that she is ok with it now. Indeed I was able to fully fuck her this time. She of course just laid there with no reaction, as they usually do in Burma, but she did have a very sweet and pleasant body so at last I was fully satisfied this time, and most of all I made up for my frustration during my previous stay.
Before we went in the room with the girl, I told the tout and the driver to wait outside, partly to avoid a repeat of last time, but also because I wanted to explore more of what was available. As we drove the girl back, we were stopped at a police check point. I thought to myself “now comes trouble”. They inspected the inside of the car with a flashlight and asked where we were going. I just told them anything (that we were going at the Traders hotel), and this seemed to satisfy them and they let us go. They didn’t seem bothered in the least by the fact that there was a girl sitting at the back, together with a local, and a foreigner sitting in front, in the middle of the night! And they didn’t even ask ID for anybody. In other countries, where prostitution is also, theoretically, illegal, the police would try to take advantage of situations like this. Here, nothing. In fact, I got the impression during my stay that the police basically do not want to interfere with foreigners. My feeling is that they are happy that at least some tourists go there and they don’t want to scare them away. Their concerns seem mostly political. They don’t want journalists and other such trouble makers, but sex tourists seem OK, as long as they keep reasonably discreet.
After dropping the girl, they showed me a few others, ranging from 5 to 7 and I took one that wasn’t too bad. On top of this, even though she was 18+ and had a well-developed body, she was completely hairless and was a rather good shot. Not as good as the first one though, but this was just a bonus girl. Nevertheless, once again they just were unable to produce a girl of the same quality as the first one.
The tout and the driver didn’t stay this time, because they thought I would stay over night in that room with the girl. But I have difficulty sleeping in another room than mine, so hoped onto a bicycle and went back to my hotel. A bicycle is obviously slower than a car and thus provides a better enjoyment of the town, as well as enableing me to better see where I am going, as I like to find my way around town. During the night (it was 1-2 am already), bicycles are a nice option, but during the day it is horrible because of the pollution.
That day was good as I was finally able to get over my frustration with the first girl and fully enjoy her at last. So for me the day was mission accomplished.
Day 11
That day was pretty quiet and nothing special happened, especially since it was “full moon holiday” and most things were closed. I visited the Strand hotel and in the evening went back to the Shwedagon temple. With the full moon, it was absolutely crowded and the ambiance was very nice. After that, I was tired and not in mood to go out or get a girl. Anyway, I was still reeving on the girls of yesterday, so just took an early sleep.
Day 12
I started day 12 without high ambition. I decided after what I saw the other day that I could not find anything better for now, so decided that I would just have a normal sex tourist day, that is, just taking any girl from on of the clubs, have fun with her together in the hotel room, and that would be it. For once, I would focus on a girl with a nice character rather than physical attribute, so we could just have a fun time.
Once again, it was when I least expected it, like at that time, that things turned out to be exceptional. But, you know, it wouldn’t work if I decided not to expect anything in the hope of getting something…
I again met that Indian guy who guided me at first in Rangoon and who could not really help me. He claimed to have now gorgeous girls so we went to look (same system, he calls some number and the girl meet you in the street), but that “gorgeous girl” turned out to be an ugly 3-4 butt so I quickly dropped that guy who obviously had no idea of what I was looking for.
I also discovered, by complete chance as none of the guides I met told me about it and there was no mention of it either in any of the guide books I read, that by far the best view on the city is from the top of the Sakura tower, where there is a café in which you can have a snack and a drink. The view is fabulous. You get to see the hill of the Shwedagon temple, the cross road where the Sule pagoda sits, the Irrawaddy river, and you can even see as far as the lake, with the the boat restaurant on it. Just an amazing point of view, which strangely does not seem to be advertized at all.
For the evening, my plan was to go to the Palace, where I found the best girls before, and also to finally check out JJ, as I intented long time ago but never got around to it.
This time around the Palace was nothing special. I didn’t find the same quality of girls as before, even though they did have fashion show going on. So I headed to JJ, and that’s where things suddenly began to happen.
At JJ of course you first have to go through the cloud of touts who want to provide you with one of the girls standing outside at the back. The girls inside, though, are so much better that there is no sense to go with the touts. Even the hostesses who greet you in their red uniform as you enter are exceptionnally gracious, and you immediately fall under the charm. Great choice of girls by the management. Obviously someone got taste. These must have been the girls standing in the van I saw on my first day.
The disco is actually made of two parts. One is the actual disco, and another is a sort of café/restaurant where you can sit, drink and chat. That’s one of the things I like about it. Very handy to meet and chat with the girls as they would often sit there between the fashion shows. I found the choice great and I quickly fell in love with two of them. One was a 9-10 girl on my scale, expensive, as she would command 100+, and the other a 8-9 one, a bit cheaper at $60, but that I really liked too. I did not know which one to take so I ended up taking both. The first one for short time and the second for over night.
These prices were a bit high compared to what I saw so far, but I was so happy to find my type of girls after crossing the desert (with the occasional oasis) for a long time, that I didn’t negociate very hard, and that I didn’t mind the money anyway. Beside, it was my last day in Asia before a long and boring trip in Europe. I did try to bring the price down, though, but the girl would not bulge below her $100. Seems that she was aware of her worth, and really she was just a stunning stunner and I wanted her.
The draw back of the fashion show sytem is that you have to wait 1 or 1.30 am before you can pack the girls as they have to finish their show first. That can be a long and horny wait if you go there early, and that’s maybe where the touts downstair get their business. If you are too horny to wait, and think you can do two girls on the same evening, you can go down, pack a ready-standing $20 girl and get done with it, then come back, having cooled off. You could also go up to the massage and karaoke rooms that spread through several floors. There’s no shortage of things to do, plus the disco itself is nice and fun too, and I met mucho sympatico chicas in there.
Overall I found the quality of the girls at JJ one or two or more notches above the rest. Whereas Palace and Emperor would have girls ranging 6-8, it would be 8-10 at JJ. Maybe that was just on that day, I don’t know as I was only once and had not time to go back.
Even the top range fashion models were way better than at Palace/Emperor. I observed already in these places that they have basically two types of fashion show models. Those in the first group wear ordinary clothes, those in the second wear uniforms. The ones in uniforms were definetely a cut above the first group. Taller, thinner, more beautiful. You know, I think they actually WERE fashion models, unlike the first group. At JJ they had the two groups system too, but those in uniform (a nice red) were absolutely stunning, like ranging 9-10. I am not sure I saw this quality of girls in other countries before, maybe in Singapore, where the “high class” girls from various countries usually go. These models didn’t seem to be available either. You would not see them hanging around in the café (unless they change clothes before, which is very possible). They would appear from nowhere, make a stuning show for a few minutes, and then just disappear again. Rather mysterious and somewhat mystical.
Anyway, at 1am, off in a taxi and a hotel with my two girls. The short time girl was really a nice shot, worth every expensive cent. When I finished, I sent her back with the money then tried out the long time one. I found her to be really very nice, body-wise as well as a very sweet character – so I decided to make an exception to my rule and take her to the Panaroma for the night.
On the whole an unexpected great day, thanks to JJ, with two really high quality girls I thought I would not find anymore. That JJ club is a bit remote and the surrounding; including the cloud of touts, may give the wrong impression. But once inside, real hidden treasures can be had! I would go back to JJ with no hesitation on the next day, except that I had to fly. Is life unfair or what?
Day 13.
My flight was going only in the afternoon. We went out for breakfast up the Sakura tower, then some shopping in the market, buying a $30 pair of shoes for the girl. A bit expensive for a market place but I was very happy with her.She was sweet and lively, night and day, and she was beautiful and tasty. I enjoyed endlessly kissing and hugging her, and she responded likewise. Also, unlike the other girls, she did not seek to go away at the early morning hours and gladly stayed with me the whole time, up to the airport. She even wasn’t shy to be seen with me on the street. However, this made me feel uneased, because people were staring at us. Eventually I made her walk in front so it wouldn’t be too obvious. I ended up giving her $100+ too instead of the expected $60, and I am stil missing her to this day.
Well, that’s it folks. I did have a great time in Myanmar, even if the country has its limitations. I’ll definitely be back, and I do hope you’ll leave things as I left them! ;-)
Thanks to Denom for that extensive, informative and entertaining report on Myanmar.
Good reading!
I spent 2 nights in Yangon several weeks ago, before traveled to Bagan.
I think 100USD girls are probably the super high end, even 50USD girls are on the expensive side. I did not meet anyone asking me 100. In Empire, most girls ask around 30, some willing to go 25. At late hours, the leftovers probably would go below that.
I personally don't think the quality in Myanmar is that good, and service is that great. Maybe the bad water quality, many have bad skin. But most girls are quite friendly. Most of them prefer Kyat.
I used to stay at Panorama several times, but now I switch to Summit Parkview or Kandawgyi Palace, maybe 10 to 20 USD above Panorama, but the ambient is much better and good breakfast.Yes, the girl quality is not so good, but if you prefer some indian beauty, it is terrible cheap and easy to get in yangon, better than find it in india. The myanmar girl seldom service, so don't expect some incredible BBBJ.
I heard the summit parkview offer very good money exchange rate, is it true?
Most of the girl are $30-50, I have a hard time to bargain, my negotiation skills is not good. Only the fashion model will ask more than $50 to $100++, but it is over my budget.
She even wasn’t shy to be seen with me on the street. However, this made me feel uneased, because people were staring at us. Eventually I made her walk in front so it wouldn’t be too obvious. I ended up giving her $100+ too instead of the expected $60, and I am stil missing her to this day.Jj is the best in yangon, just like the Geckos & Crystal Palace in AC.
I tot foreginer are not allow to walking around with local girl! Maybe I should find a long time girl next time, shopping around and go to cinema. The burmese like to go cinema a lot, especially sat & sun. Lots of cinema when I walking around, and the ticket very cheap, less than USD$1. 00. I wonder whether inside got air-con.
Denom, thanks for the remainder of the reports. I will be sure to ask for the "meat market" with the local guides/touts when I'm there this winter.
Doppel One
08-07-10, 10:17
Denom,
Great series of reports. Thanks. You've really whettted my appetite for my forthcoming trip to Myanmar, I only hope I find a few gems of my own!
BTW I bought a little LP English/Burmese dictionary. Did you find you could bundle through knowing next to no Burmese or did you learn a little to help in those all important negotiations when you were guide-less?
Super job, thanks once again, and enjoy!
Thanks for your report, Denom.
I have some problem to buy the condom in yangon, some of my friends bought the "Aphaw" condoms from some small stall all over the yangon, a very popular brand in myanmar.
My friends said it is thin and good, anyone try it? How's the feel?
I hope someone can find some good meat market or disco/club in Mandalay, because it is quite boring if there is pagoda only. What to do at night.
I know the China border got some action, someplace name Ruili etc. But it is a bit dangerous.
BTW I bought a little LP English/Burmese dictionary. Did you find you could bundle through knowing next to no Burmese or did you learn a little to help in those all important negotiations when you were guide-less?I think learning a few key words would absolutely be a help. One of the big problems in that country is the language. Even when they do speak English sometimes their accent makes it impossible to understand. It would be more easy for us to learn a few Burmese words than the other way around. Basic numbers and directions are always handy plus some typical mongering words.
I know the China border got some action, someplace name Ruili etc. But it is a bit dangerous.I saw that one recently and though about exploring it the next time around. Ruili is the Chinese side and Muse (nice name!) the Burmese one. I think it should be reachable by road from Mandalay but that's 400-500 km, a long ride, especially if the road is not in good condition. I remember several guides pointing to the start of the road going to China in Mandalay. I was wondering why they would do that. It seems to be a very important business and strategic point for them, which it would, especially with the international boycott. Haven't checked yet if there is flight. I am also not sure the area is open to foreigners (apart for Chinese of course). It's in the Shan State. I suspect it will be terra non grata to foreigners:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_%28Shan_State%29
I had a quick check out of curiosity. From Mandalay seems very difficult to impossible. Long drive. Unclear whether you can enter the area, unclear whether you can cross over to the Chinese side.
More easy to reach from China. Fly Bangkok Kunming, $400 return, $300 one way. From Kunming to Luxi with Air China, another $400 return, then 2 hours by road to Ruili. You may get a one day entry visa to Muse but that's not clear either. By all means, Ruili seems the city of vices, not really Muse.
You can always go back to Kunming to take airplane to Mandalay, this seems feasible and allowed but I only found the price to Rangoon from Kunming, $600 one way.
Total damage around $1,500. Seems a bit expensive and time consuming for just a side trip. If going by bus from Kunming (12 hours min) and able to enter Myanmar then maybe reasonable but almost for sure not possible to enter other than one day trip, if at all.
My estimate by car from Mandalay would be min $200 one way, $300 return, and about 2 days travel. If not allowed to cross over to China then not much sense. Only for people who have a lot of free time worth trying. Most probably would need permission from Junta too, if possible to get at all.
Palace was very disappointing compared to 4 months ago when I found a little gem there. Emperor was much busier: as soon as you enter 3-4 girls latch on to you and it is not easy to be left alone. This a large place with lots of girls. Quality is average but due to numbers a few 7-8 can be found. Only two westeners, most customers are asian. After exploring for a while in this dark place I found what I liked: a cute, smiling girl with an open and happy attitude. Back at the hotel she did not show the usual shyness and I discovered a beautifull body, perfect breasts and surprisingly good talent in the sack. Good GFE, cuddles and caresses. Kissing very poor at first but much better later. She really seemed to enjoy it. Long BJ and DATY. And CIM finish. My desciption sounds a bit technical but the whole experience was very relaxed, slow and enjoyable.
Doppel One
08-12-10, 08:20
I found what I liked: a cute, smiling girl with an open and happy attitude. The whole experience was very relaxed, slow and enjoyable.Just out of curiosity, how much did you pay her? Any negotiation involved?
Thanks for the info and glad you had a good experience!
I had a quick check out of curiosity. From Mandalay seems very difficult to impossible. Long drive. Unclear whether you can enter the area, unclear whether you can cross over to the Chinese side.
More easy to reach from China. Fly Bangkok Kunming, $400 return, $300 one way. From Kunming to Luxi with Air China, another $400 return, then 2 hours by road to Ruili. You may get a one day entry visa to Muse but that's not clear either. By all means, Ruili seems the city of vices, not really Muse.
You can always go back to Kunming to take airplane to Mandalay, this seems feasible and allowed but I only found the price to Rangoon from Kunming, $600 one way.
Total damage around $1,500. Seems a bit expensive and time consuming for just a side trip. If going by bus from Kunming (12 hours min) and able to enter Myanmar then maybe reasonable but almost for sure not possible to enter other than one day trip, if at all.
My estimate by car from Mandalay would be min $200 one way, $300 return, and about 2 days travel. If not allowed to cross over to China then not much sense. Only for people who have a lot of free time worth trying. Most probably would need permission from Junta too, if possible to get at all.Tried that didn't work
Ruili was an overall dissapointment as far as the mongering, there were some karaokes but nothing you wouldn't find anywhere else.
Also there was no way a westerner could cross the border there into Burma.
YMMV of course but be warned. Yunnan is a nice place to travel otherwise.
Just found that the train to Mandalay is only 15 hours, compare 12-15 hours by bus, it is still a good way to go there by train. Cost is about $10-50. I'll go there by train in my next trip.
Will be going to Yangon on 2-Sep, after 4 years. Memory still fresh, hopefully I don’t get lost my ways there. Previously manage to get local guide who speaks English, so life was easy. His travel office located between lanes next to Sakura tower and the cinema. I don’t expect to find him or he remembers me.
Can anyone suggest any reliable guides? Language is real headache and wonder if there is any improvement since last 4 years especially taxi drivers.
Plan to stay in Asia Plaza (stayed here before) or Panaroma. Strangely reservation process was just by providing name and date at Asia Plaza. I wonder if that was ok or am I going to have hard times when reach there.
Can someone provide comparison on Asia Plaza and Panorama rooms?
Thanks to malibu21 for some info . Called Santa Maria Travel but they seems don’t have contract with Asia Plaza.
Went to check out emperor this time after reading the reviews. Never seen fashion show before, so want to check it out. From the report earlier it seems to suggest that the best time to visit emperor is between 7 to 8 pm. I will like to say this is not true. I reached there close to 8pm. The place is basically quiet with very few customers. The place is also very dark to boot. Though it's loaded with girls, but you cannot really view your girl nicely in the dark environment. The place will heat up only around 9. 00 pm. This is when the disco music start and many will fill the dance floor. With the help of disco lights, you get to view your potential prey better. The quality here are mainly 4. 6. With a very few 7-8. But really, the number of girls outnumber the guys, something like 40 to 50 girls easily, going out price is 30, 000 kyat for overnight until morning. The fashion show starts 9. 30pm everynight at emperor and will last an hour. Nothing really fascinating with the fashion show either. There are multiple groups of girls by different company there to parade. Mostly are just 6-7 in my opinion. However, from one company I notice the girls are mostly 7-8, with two girls I will rate 8.5.
Since I arrived too early, I got a girl to sit with me while waiting for the fashion show. The girl was OK looking, a 6. 5. But she was cute and she has a very cheerful character, the constant smile on her face pushed her up to a 7. She keep asking if I would bring her back, and I keep stalling her by saying "kenap". Then I offered her tips of 2, 000 kyat since I think she has been an enjoyable company to me. She vehemently declined my tips. She says either she goes back with me for 30, 000 kyat or she will not accept anything. I broke and I agreed to have her over for the night. She immediately present me a very sweet smile and was delightful throughout the night. We even rate the fashion girls together.
Back to my hotel, Park Royal does charge 10 dollar for joiner fee. In the room she declined to bathe together, so I let her bathe on her own first, then when it's my turn, I insist she bath me and she complied. Action on the bed was good. She has a cute face, smooth skin albeit it's darker for my preference (not as dark as indian). Boobs were just the right size and the signature burmese meaty ass. Don't you just love banging them doggie with such nice cushion. Had a round with her, then we collapsed and slept till morning and have a second round.
After the deed, we went down for hotel buffet breakfast, when exiting, I was surprised that I was charged 12 dollar for her share. I inquired the reception that last night I already paid 10 dollar for joiner fee. But according to reception, the 10 dollar is just the girl fee, it does not upgrade the room to double room. Therefore additional buffet breakfast applies. I then ask how much is it to upgrade my room to double room so that I can bring back girls without joiner fee and able to have 2 passes to daily buffet breakfast. I was told to upgrade is just additional 5 dollar a day! I was ripped of 17 dollars! Immediately I told the reception to start upgrading my room from now on for additional 5 dollar a day.
Oh yeah, exchange rate at market is about 1 dollar to 990 or 995 kyat at the moment.
P/s: Comparison between emperor and music club is facilities wise of course music club tops it. More conducive environment to screen your prey. However, emperor has a lot more choices and with really diligent scouting, you might be able to land yourself a gem for a more cheaper price compared to MC rate of USD50. Going to try emperor again but strictly around 9pm just when the party heat is rising and secure that fashion show model that I have singled out.
Can someone provide comparison on Asia Plaza and Panorama rooms?Very much the same to me when I checked it out earlier this year, and yes, I phoned the panorama and made a reservation just with the name and date and it was ok. They held the last room there for me.
Very much the same to me when I checked it out earlier this year, and yes, I phoned the panorama and made a reservation just with the name and date and it was ok. They held the last room there for me.Do you get the discounted price if call directly ? like about $25 after discount, normal price is about $35 for 3 star hotel like Panorama and Asia Plaza.
Can someone provide comparison on Asia Plaza and Panorama rooms?
Thanks to malibu21 for some info . Called Santa Maria Travel but they seems don’t have contract with Asia Plaza.Do the Asia Plaza charge joiner fees?
Last month i stay at the Panorama Hotel Double Occupancy Room
It cost $25 for double occupancy, $22 for single occupancy
I book the Double Occupancy to avoid the joiner fees.
Will they charge me joiner fee if i book the single occupancy room ? Anyone try this b4 ?
Do the Asia Plaza charge joiner fees?No joiner fee at Asia Plaza (as of April). This has been discussed before. RTFF. Asia Plaza has music club on premises, so as you might suspect it has more sex tourist presence than the Panorama. As for rooms: Panorama rooms are smaller, but better maintained.
No joiner fee at Asia Plaza (as of April). This has been discussed before. RTFF. Asia Plaza has music club on premises, so as you might suspect it has more sex tourist presence than the Panorama. As for rooms: Panorama rooms are smaller, but better maintained.Music Club is at the Park Royal Hotel.
Asia Plaza have their own club at basement, but very quite, low business when I go there. It is quite good if you don't want so crowded and noisy, can bargain for better price too since their biz not so good.
Panorama Rooms is quite big to me, I stay at the Superior Room on top floor.
Do the Asia Plaza charge joiner fees?
No joiner fee at Asia Plaza if you book for double. I guess all hotels here operate similar way, just book double to avoid joiner fee and confirm with front desk about the breakfast.
After the deed, we went down for hotel buffet breakfast, when exiting, I was surprised that I was charged 12 dollar for her share. I inquired the reception that last night I already paid 10 dollar for joiner fee. But according to reception, the 10 dollar is just the girl fee, it does not upgrade the room to double room. Therefore additional buffet breakfast applies. I then ask how much is it to upgrade my room to double room so that I can bring back girls without joiner fee and able to have 2 passes to daily buffet breakfast. I was told to upgrade is just additional 5 dollar a day! I was ripped of 17 dollars! Immediately I told the reception to start upgrading my room from now on for additional 5 dollar a day.
Haha, this is funny system, the last time I clarify first with front desk that I'm going to take girl back later at night and no joiner fee if book double.
No joiner fee at Asia Plaza (as of April). This has been discussed before. RTFF. Asia Plaza has music club on premises, so as you might suspect it has more sex tourist presence than the Panorama. As for rooms: Panorama rooms are smaller, but better maintained.
Did you stayed in Panaroma in April. I have to agree the room at Panaroma is smaller than Asia Plaza. I stay only one night (as walk-in customer), it was standard room with 2 single bed as no double rooms available. It looks basic so I moved to Asia Plaza which looks much better.
My room in Asia Plaza:
Music Club is at the Park Royal Hotel.
Asia Plaza have their own club at basement, but very quite, low business when I go there. It is quite good if you don't want so crowded and noisy, can bargain for better price too since their biz not so good.
Panorama Rooms is quite big to me, I stay at the Superior Room on top floor.There is The Music Club at Park Royal. Asia Plaza has 'a music club' (and what other name are you supposed to call it) get there too early and you will find it empty. If you are 'low budget' guy and don't mind generic sub-standard, the Panorama may work for you.
Did you stayed in Panaroma in April. I have to agree the room at Panaroma is smaller than Asia Plaza. I stay only one night (as walk-in customer), it was standard room with 2 single bed as no double rooms available. It looks basic so I moved to Asia Plaza which looks much better.
My room in Asia Plaza:the rooms on higher floors better. look at more than one: some are in better condition -- paint, bathrooms, etc. for a low budget place, the Asia Plaza is professional and friendly. if you get stuck in Yangon without a good hotel reservation, and intend to monger, doubt you could find more suitable than this one.
I've been scouting around hotels. Brief report about the hotels:
Thamada (right beside Park Royal).
Nice location, near downtown pyojoke market. Has a 24 hour cafe. However, room condition is not nice at all. Limited TV channels, apartment style, no facilities like sauna, gym at all. Very cheap, need to add a little to upgrade to double room. Price per room should be about USD30 or lower. Long stay guest may get USD 750 per month with free wifi internet in room. My opinion is I don't like the feel of this place, I would prefer to pay abit more for better room condition. Location is not that important as traveling around Yangon is easy with taxi.
Panorama (near a bridge)
OK hotel, cheap room rate about USD30. No wifi in room, only in lobby. Location is not that ideal. Just an average hotel.
Asia Plaza
Nice hotel from first impression, closer inspection reveals the place lacks maintenance. Totally no internet connection facility in this place. But for long stay guest can get cheap price of USD 700 a month. Another bonus is that don't need joiner fee as all price quoted are for double room booking. The hotel just treat all guest are booking for double. Also there's a club just at the basement of the hotel.
Park Royal
Nice 5 star hotel, very good service from the hotel staff, but make sure you book your room as double for USD 5 extra per day if not you will be charged. Good facility like gym and swimming pool. Good breakfast buffet. Conducive to bring girl back and there's even the famous MC at the basement of the hotel. Hotel rate is USD 70 for single booking.
Traders
Similar to Park Royal, nice hotel, nice service from staff. Also make sure you book double room for USD 5 extra. Minus points is that it is not so conducive to bring girl back to your room in the evening. Else, it is as good as Park Royal. Between the two, my vote goes to Park Royal. Hotel rate is USD 70 for single booking.
Central Hotel
Nice location, no wifi in room, only in lobby. Can be cheap about USD 30 per day. Will pick this hotel rather than thamada. They charge more for double room
Grand Mee Ya Tha
The nice service residence to stay for long stay. USD 1300 per month, Good location and nice setting for Yangon standards.
That's it from me for hotel reviews downtown of Yangon. However, if you don't mind staying just a little bit outskirt, there are nice places as well, especially if you are a long term guest.
Happy hunting. Hope my review helps.
I've been scouting around hotels. Brief report about the hotels:
Happy hunting. Hope my review helps.This topic ought to be pretty much exhausted by now. Unless a new hotel opens, will any newcomer here please: RTFF
I've been scouting around hotels. Brief report about the hotels:
Thamada (right beside Park Royal).
Panorama (near a bridge)
Asia Plaza
Nice hotel from first impression, closer inspection reveals the place lacks maintenance. Totally no internet connection facility in this place. But for long stay guest can get cheap price of USD 700 a month. Another bonus is that don't need joiner fee as all price quoted are for double room booking. The hotel just treat all guest are booking for double. Also there's a club just at the basement of the hotel.
Park Royal
Nice 5 star hotel, very good service from the hotel staff, but make sure you book your room as double for USD 5 extra per day if not you will be charged. Good facility like gym and swimming pool. Good breakfast buffet. Conducive to bring girl back and there's even the famous MC at the basement of the hotel. Hotel rate is USD 70 for single booking.
Central Hotel
Nice location, no wifi in room, only in lobby. Can be cheap about USD 30 per day. Will pick this hotel rather than thamada. They charge more for double room
Grand Mee Ya Tha
The nice service residence to stay for long stay. USD 1300 per month, Good location and nice setting for Yangon standards.Thamada - look bad from outside, i never dare to walk inside to check their room.
Panorama - i get $25 from travel agent
Asia Plaza - How's their breakfast & bathtub ? Panorama bathtub very bad, others is ok to me.
Central - They charge joiner fee.
Park Royal - A true high standard hotel with a very good club, if u don't mind the joiner fees. If u always stay at 4-5 star hotel, the joiner fees is nothing to you. Just make sure u book the double occupancy room.
Grand Mee Ya Tha
If you stay long time, this seems like the best choice, it is almost opposite the traders hotel and the environment is more relax. Price similar to Park Royal. I like their Suite Room.
http://www.grandmeeyahta.com
There is The Music Club at Park Royal. Asia Plaza has 'a music club' (and what other name are you supposed to call it) get there too early and you will find it empty. If you are 'low budget' guy and don't mind generic sub-standard, the Panorama may work for you.You should call it "night club"
I been stay at some hotel that is terrible than Panorama a lot such as Blue Nile Hotel in Angeles City. Sometime i stay at some quite good one like Lewis Grand Hotel if my tirak is with me.
www.lewisgrand.com
At Asia Plaza, I was lucky to meet the Service Manager, an Indian lady (not sure if she there after 4 years) who show me nicer room. Later she took me to their Sikh temple just about one or two streets behind the hotel. Nice English speaking lady.
Breakfast was just a basic food, same menu very other days. Bathtub is Ok (at least the one in my room).
Is GSM phone works using their prepaid SIM card? How do I get those SIM cards and any control on the cards by the gov.
Is GSM phone works using their prepaid SIM card? How do I get those SIM cards and any control on the cards by the gov.
Two options for GSM as of now - one $20 and the other $50 - being sold at City Mart and most mobile phone shops @ 22000/55000 Kyat.
$20 has 30 day validity and $50 for 60 days - call charges being the same. Fairly simple over the counter sale without any ID being asked.
Visa on arrival is likely to be suspended prior to the elections as per reports coming out of Burma. Visas for UN/NGOs staff are not being renewed and new visas being denied.
Check with the embassy before you depart.
Visa on arrival is likely to be suspended prior to the elections as per reports coming out of Burma. Visas for UN/NGOs staff are not being renewed and new visas being denied.
Check with the embassy before you depart.IS there any detail as per dates on when this is / will be happening? Was looking to get a 30-day tourist visa at Myanmar Consulate in Bangkok last week in September.
IS there any detail as per dates on when this is / will be happening? Was looking to get a 30-day tourist visa at Myanmar Consulate in Bangkok last week in September.This website have some very latest myanmar news. I always read it before go to myanmar.
http://www.irrawaddy.org
http://www.irrawaddy.org/article.php?art_id=19267
IS there any detail as per dates on when this is / will be happening? Was looking to get a 30-day tourist visa at Myanmar Consulate in Bangkok last week in September.
No idea - the Junta is known to spring surprises at the last minute, as in the past.
As for your timing, you may be just able to make it in/out of the country.
I had booked tickets for Nov 5 some time back, I guess I will now cancel them and see if there may be post election violence before I decide to go back again.
:)
No idea - the Junta is known to spring surprises at the last minute, as in the past.
As for your timing, you may be just able to make it in/out of the country.
I had booked tickets for Nov 5 some time back, I guess I will now cancel them and see if there may be post election violence before I decide to go back again.
:)Recollect asking you several months ago about your strategy of buying tickets before procuring the visa. I do it the other way around. And, always with Myanmar Air as with them, the ticket dates can be changed with no penalty. Definitely advisable to delay. A bomb went off when I was there for Water Festival. And recent events in Thailand fresh in all our minds.
I am planning a visit to Yangoon early Nov 2010 for a week. I speak fluent burmese and I am looking for some brothers in arms in join in on all the pleasures Yangoon has to offer.
Visa on arrival is likely to be suspended prior to the elections as per reports coming out of Burma. Visas for UN/NGOs staff are not being renewed and new visas being denied.
Check with the embassy before you depart.
Since when they suspended the Visa on arrival? When is the election? I'm traveling on 2-Sept. How to obtain information about the Visa besides calling the embassy?
Since when they suspended the Visa on arrival? When is the election? I'm traveling on 2-Sept. How to obtain information about the Visa besides calling the embassy?
The report says it would be suspended from Sept 1. Not sure about when or how.
I am planning a visit to Yangoon early Nov 2010 for a week. I speak fluent burmese and I am looking for some brothers in arms in join in on all the pleasures Yangoon has to offer.
During the elections? Got your visa lined up? Frankly I would avoid that month to allow sentiments to cool down and not risk getting caught up in unnecessary violence.
The report says it would be suspended from Sept 1. Not sure about when or how.
Called the embassy, they said can provide Visa on same day with additional fee but I'm worried if they will change policy later, no entry from 1-Sept after issuing the Visa.
I'm worried if they will change policy later, no entry from 1-Sept after issuing the Visa.
Yes, that may be possible, although unlikely since the visa has been already issued. But who can tell - that Junta government defies logic and and are paranoid about the outside world.
:)
I've been scouting around hotels. Brief report about the hotels:
Thamada (right beside Park Royal).
Nice location, near downtown pyojoke market. Has a 24 hour cafe. However, room condition is not nice at all. Limited TV channels, apartment style, no facilities like sauna, gym at all. Very cheap, need to add a little to upgrade to double room. Price per room should be about USD30 or lower. Long stay guest may get USD 750 per month with free wifi internet in room. My opinion is I don't like the feel of this place, I would prefer to pay abit more for better room condition. Location is not that important as traveling around Yangon is easy with taxi.Thanks for the report and overview. That one sounds interesting for the wifi in room. Do they really have it even for short stay? Very rare in Yangoon. 24h hour cafe a plus too. I don't care for tv or gym anyway. Girl friendly? Joiner fee?
Did you stayed in Panaroma in April. I have to agree the room at Panaroma is smaller than Asia Plaza. I stay only one night (as walk-in customer), it was standard room with 2 single bed as no double rooms available. It looks basic so I moved to Asia Plaza which looks much better.
My room in Asia Plaza:Panorama rooms are ok (obviously not as posh as traders or park), and great service from lobby - but my complain about the rooms is that they usually are dark. They really should put more bulbs and more powerful ones. Also I don't understand why management in general don't understand that wifi in room would be a definite plus. It really is not that difficult to do, is it? Just put a router on every floor.
California Andy
08-28-10, 06:12
Hi,
I will be in Yangoon from September 5.
Somebody wants to team up to find girls?
Andy
Hi,
I will be in Yangoon from September 5.
Somebody wants to team up to find girls?
Andy
Sorry Andy, I’m in on 2nd, out by 5th Sept. Read the forum for where to search. Try to stay in Panaroma if you plan for alliance.
Northern Axe
08-29-10, 06:50
Have anybody used the thai embassy in Yangoon to get a new visa (non-immigrant-O) to Thailand? If it's easy to get a new visa from there, i think i have to give Yangoon a try in October.
Hi there,
I'll be in SE Asia, mainly Thailand, for some 6 weeks this February.
Could any knowledgeable monger please comment, if a side trip to Myanmar and specifically Yangon would be worth while w.r.t. the hobby, with some obligatory sight-seeing on the side?
The Air Asia fare is reasonable at USD 130, but I am totally confused about the exchange rate.
Oanda.com and others quote anout 6.30 MMK for 1 USD, while some FR quote around 1000:1, which would make 30,000 MMK for LT sound reasonable.
Could someone pls enligten me?
Thanks
DS
Hi there,
I'll be in SE Asia, mainly Thailand, for some 6 weeks this February.
Could any knowledgeable monger please comment, if a side trip to Myanmar and specifically Yangon would be worth while w.r.t. the hobby, with some obligatory sight-seeing on the side?
The Air Asia fare is reasonable at USD 130, but I am totally confused about the exchange rate.
Oanda.com and others quote anout 6.30 MMK for 1 USD, while some FR quote around 1000:1, which would make 30,000 MMK for LT sound reasonable.
Could someone pls enligten me?
Thanks,
DSYes it is confusing ,but the exchange rate is around 1000 for 1 US$.
And because of this I am taking a mongering trip to Rangoon.
if a side trip to Myanmar and specifically Yangon would be worth while w.r.t. the hobby, with some obligatory sight-seeing on the side?
but I am totally confused about the exchange rate.
Oanda.com and others quote anout 6.30 MMK for 1 USD, while some FR quote around 1000:1
DS
Yes, you should put Yangon in your itinerary for both mongering and sight-seeing. LT is from US20 depending on place and quality. Ignore the official exchange rate, street rate should be 1000:1. Carry clean USD notes.
Got my Visa done at the Myanmar embassy yesterday. Anyone there between 2 – 5 Sept. Maybe can meet for drink.
So Visa on arrival is now suspended? Doh. Does anybody know if you can apply for the visa online (e-visa)?
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