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Rick Rock

08-05-13, 09:16

Tuk tuk is 7 dollars, and when you start laughing, they show you a printed piece of paper showing the amount. They will not come down, even if you say that you can get one outside the airport parking lot of 3-4 dollar. Walk 100 meters from arrivals to the main road and you will see it. All those tuk tuk beggars waiting outside the gates want to charge you 5 dollar. Just wait until you a nice tuk tuk on the way home, and if you stop him, no more than 3-4 dollar.Walk 150 feet to the road and tell a tuk tuk where you're going and that you'll give them $4. If they refuse, go to the next one. There is a line of 10+ at any given time. Same price to get back to the airport from anywhere in the city. Taxi is only $9 according to official prices. Tell them you'll give $7 and they'll take it.

Lala33

08-08-13, 10:10

Shearer68

08-08-13, 12:59

Recently returned from visit to Phnom Penh after 5 Years. Got to say prices have increased considerably but me and my mates had great time and as this is one of our two lads tours away we were not really counting the pennies.

Stayed at Himawari and have no complaints and after my earlier query. Yes it was user friendly and they phoned to check if all ok when girls left. Nice pool and gym.though a few to many kids on Sunday. A few of the girls and owner of from Golden Vine came for a swim and no issues with that.

Eating. I never eat much on our tours. Ate at Paddy Rice a couple of times. Very average burger and very good pizza and good buckets of SML. Somehow ended up at restuarant under the Lounge. Not bad but expensive.

Bars. Golden Vine. Had a real laugh in here and spent a fair bit. Girls were pretty average in looks but were a good laugh and we got on with owner as she was a Viet and we share our views of Vietnam. We took out a few girls and most the guys were happy. I had two contrasting girls. First night Linda who was great fun and we. Somehow ended up with some others at disco at Nagaworld but it went wrong back in room around 3am.I had got her too pissed and she was sick. Offered her 20 bucks best leave but she wouldn't, eventually got my mates girl to get her to leave. Gather she got a right load of trouble off her boss the next day when the other girl told on her. On last night got a sweet girl (older but sweet smile) think called Roth.learnt my lesson she did not drink- sweet girl and great BBBJ.

Zanzibar- Had a laugh in here but no doubt got our bill padded. Some nice girls in here looks wise. Acuple of nice spinners and did not know which one to take. In the end took the less pro one and not the one with tats. Nice girl and great as a spinner. Cannot remember her name.

Others bars.

Oscars. Terrible music and only a couple of good girls. Left afte one beer.

Best Bar. Liked this one but our group was moving on.

Across the road from Best Bar could have been Sin something or maybe Singer. Cannot remember name and it seemed larger and had quite a few ladyboys A deaf and dumb one who nearly snared my mate. Average girls.

Went to a couple of others but really can't remember too much about them.

Anyway a good trip and I actually enjoyed the trip as the rest of lads did. I had previously used the freelance places and this time stayed to hostess bars so it proved more expensive but definitely more fun and will be back. Oh and nice to see that departure tax has gone fom airport was always a pain in the ass.

Rick Rock

08-08-13, 20:43

Across the road from Best Bar could have been Sin something or maybe Singer. Cannot remember name and it seemed larger and had quite a few ladyboys A deaf and dumb one who nearly snared my mate. Average girls.Singer Bar is not exactly across the street from Best 136 Bar, but it's close. Since there is usually 1 ladyboy for each 5 ladies, that's probably where you ended up. It's in the same group as Candy and Butterfly. I usually avoided those places because the girls tend to ask ridiculous rates for ST and LT.

Glad you had a good time!

Rick Rock

08-08-13, 20:45

I went to the Yang Mey #28 Street 252. The name has been changed. The new name is 252 Massage Karaoke. I went about 345 in the afternoon. Too early I guess but they had about 20 girls. None really impressed me. An older woman at with me as I was going to select the one I wanted. I asked the price for sex and she would only tell me $10 for a massage, $25 for a good one. I spend a few minutes asking her to cut the bs and give me the price. She would not and I just got pissed off and left. Just don't want to pay the $10 to find the rest of the cost unreasonable. I must say I was very disappointed. Had the price been fair I would have stayed.Sounds like you fucked up, and may have even made things harder for the Barang that come after you. What exactly where you looking for? You want her to advertise sexual services out in the open with a price tag attached or what? It's not Thailand.

The going rates have been laid out twice in this thread in the last few months. If you found the address, surely you could find that information.

Some of you guys amaze me.

CaliPro

08-09-13, 02:43

Hello fellas,

Going to be doing a SEA Tour after completing my job in Korea. So far the plan is to hit Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete, Jakarta, Phnom Penh, and Bangkok.

Background: 27 year old from the states.

Normal routine is set up a day date and so some sight seeing. Then go out dancing, drinking, and picking up women at night. Sometimes with a date, other times solo. Will be trying to keep costs and expenses down considerably due to the length of my trip.

From reading the last 10 pages or so from the forum I have gathered this intel.

Logistics: Only two locations of note. Soyra shopping area and Riverside. Leaning towards Riverside especially if I can get to Soyra very cheaply. Looking for the best bang for my buck in the range of 15-25 USD. Here is some hotels I noted from reading the forum.

Flamingos Hotel

KTV Hotel

Blue Kiwi

Lux.

Forgot which ones were in Riverside. What would yall recommend as the best bang for buck in Riverside?

For nightlife, plan to hit up a few spots each night. This is the spots of note I got so far.

Heart of Darkness.

Walkabout.

Pontoon.

Martini

Nagaworld Casino.

St Tropez (a Cambodian HiSo club where rich girls frolic with politicians, pop and movie stars)

River Houses (mixed tourist and Khmer crowd)

Rock (Normal Cambodian club)

Spark (Normal Cambodian club)

Darling Darling (another HiSo Cambodian place)

Sharkey's

Candy.

Best Bar 136.

Butterfly.

Cycee.

Lemon Bar

Cavalry Bar.

The Royal is Raffles Hotel Le Royal

Seems like the best spots for FL's is Pontoon and Hearts of Darkness. For brothels or barfine places, which places on that list or elsewhere has the best looking women for me to try to set up a date with the next day? Also, any recommendations on where I can find the University girls?

Any advice or recommendations will be much appreciated.

FreebieFan

08-12-13, 06:37

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? Also, any recommendations on where I can find the University girls?

Any advice or recommendations will be much appreciated.Try going to the university to find university girls. Duh.

The Royal is out of your price range.

In fact given that you so willingly stump up US$4 as financial gifts for your Pinay conquests you might find PP to be a tad expensive. Generally US$20 covers most ladies. You will be quoted much higher than that in HOD and Pontoon as your relative youth will work against you. All the girls know that the young lads in there generally don't have two beans to rub together.

Fast Eddie 48

08-13-13, 20:55

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DogsBreakfast

08-17-13, 05:54

As noted elsewhere in this forum, the Paris Hotel fishbowl is gone. I saw a local report that said someone had been busted for that sort of operation (it didn't mention any names). When I went there yesterday, an old Khmer fella was wheezing "min har, min har" at me with great emotion. He spoke no English but kept saying that and waving frantically in a westerly direction.

On a hunch I decided to explore in a westerly direction and, lo and behold, found the Mean Haur (not to be confused with the unforgiving minute!) hotel.

There was the familiar fishbowl, Viet girls in yellow, Khmer in pink. They have a extra step in the process, presumably to keep the massage operation on a lawful footing. It adds $6 to the cost.

Enjoy,

DB

AzhaLover

08-18-13, 12:47

Lala33. Thanks, now I finally know where the old Yang Mei is. I looked and thought it got swallowed up by the new high rise building on the road. But yeah, you probably fucked up in your dealing with them.

Dogsbreakfast. Thanks for the update on Paris Hotel fishbowl relocation.

Asian Heat

08-19-13, 08:19

Hi there,

First of all, great info here!

I'm preparing my first trip to PP and I am looking for a midclass hotel.

On the websites I can read that only official, registered guest are allowed to enter.

Is this just an official statement or are many hotels not GF?

I look for a hotel near Street 51 and comparable with Royal Mekong Boutique hotel, Bougainviller and Blue Lime.

Looking forward to read your comment about this.

MutantChicken

08-19-13, 21:27

I went to the Yang Mey #28 Street 252. The name has been changed. The new name is 252 Massage Karaoke. I went about 345 in the afternoon. Too early I guess but they had about 20 girls. None really impressed me. An older woman at with me as I was going to select the one I wanted. I asked the price for sex and she would only tell me $10 for a massage, $25 for a good one. I spend a few minutes asking her to cut the bs and give me the price. She would not and I just got pissed off and left. Just don't want to pay the $10 to find the rest of the cost unreasonable. I must say I was very disappointed. Had the price been fair I would have stayed.I'm still not sure what the mama did wrong she said 10 for the massage and 25 for a good one ie code for boom boom. Which is very much in line with what has been said. So pretty much you have been provided with an adress and the cost from the forum. You turn up and the mama confirms the price and yet you still get annoyed and walk away. And surely lets say the worst case scenarios happened and you go in pay the 10 bucks and the the girl wants 50 dollars or god forbid 30 dollars. Are you so short on money that you can't risk 10 dollars and get a massage only?

Rick Rock

08-21-13, 09:21

Headed to Vietnam for work. Going to be making another stop in PP. Made quite a few contacts there and scoped out the scene nicely but never did find a super quality BBBJ. Best stuff came from Cyrcee and one from a daytime spot, but never any real thorough deepthroat. Really makes me miss my wife when in Asia because it's always so hard to find. Anyone have any recommendations? It's a small enough scene that a PM with a bar and a name / phone number would be great.

CorporateMalaya

08-22-13, 12:15

AskeAske

08-22-13, 12:28

Was going through some hotel sites near the riverside, some of them are strict about the 2nd person. Few even say, against sex tourism like the frangipani, what's the scene here. Can any residents or senior members reco some decent places with no joiner fees.I always stay at California2.

http://www.cafecaliforniaphnompenh.com/

Very nice place. Nice staff and owner. Very GF. 27 $ for standard room incl. Breakfast. The owner, Jim, know almost every thing abaut Cambodia. Excellent bar. 24 h/d.

ThePrinz

08-22-13, 15:05

I'm still not sure what the mama did wrong she said 10 for the massage and 25 for a good one ie code for boom boom. Which is very much in line with what has been said. So pretty much you have been provided with an adress and the cost from the forum. You turn up and the mama confirms the price and yet you still get annoyed and walk away. And surely lets say the worst case scenarios happened and you go in pay the 10 bucks and the the girl wants 50 dollars or god forbid 30 dollars. Are you so short on money that you can't risk 10 dollars and get a massage only?Better to be extra careful in such places, they could easily ask 100$ for a HJ and claim you misunderstood the price, those Viet mamasans have no shame and nothing to lose.

By the way. 40$ for massage + BB is already more expensive than Pattaya, I would skip it and shag a couple freelances instead.

For the record, I've my favourite khmer massage girl doing 1 hr GFE and massage + HJ for 5$ all inclusive, she's the first one I've found doing decent khmer massage and I've tried many, all disastrous, and she's also good at HJ and for 10$ she does BBBJ.

The place is dirty and stricly for locals and I'm their only foreign customer, not going to tell you exactly where it is but suffice to say that in this city you don't need to go upscale to get decent sex and a happy time.

If you guys think 50$ for a massage with happy ending is a fair price you're de facto part of the problem and you should not complain about the skyrocketing going rates in bars and fishbowls.

As for the 10$ massage alone: he's not totally wrong about it, a normal massage is priced 5-6$ anywhere in downtown so 10$ is already overpriced, most of these massages turn out ot be lackluster and pale in comparison to the ones in Thailand, China, and Vietnam so the risk of throwing 10$ out of the window is actually very high!

Mackin

08-22-13, 16:40

Can you clarify what is downtown. Maybe some streets by name.

Betong

08-23-13, 09:39

Few even say, against sex tourism like the frangipani, what's the scene here.Frangipangi has its head up its butt. It's aimed at 'respectable tourists', which is to say mainly old Western farts and their wives. Try any of the cheaper places along the water or one block in, like Paragon, Golden House, River House etc.

AzhaLover

08-23-13, 16:38

CaliPro

08-24-13, 04:41

Rick Rock

08-24-13, 13:10

RickRock,

Cyrcee still the best choice. I've had a couple of girls there give deep throat. And without my asking. You know the place. Just talk to the girls and they'll tell you who does what.Remember any names? Was it real DT? Balls deep? I love it so much yet it's so hard to find in Asia.

I did pick up some of the language while I was working in the country, but "sword swallowing" still isn't in my vocabulary. I don't imagine it's something I could easily explain to people with less than basic English.

AzhaLover

08-24-13, 16:29

ThePrinz

08-24-13, 16:30

Remember any names? Was it real DT? Balls deep? I love it so much yet it's so hard to find in Asia.

I did pick up some of the language while I was working in the country, but "sword swallowing" still isn't in my vocabulary. I don't imagine it's something I could easily explain to people with less than basic English.Rick rock it's a disgrace there are so many like you, yes Cyrcee is nr. One for blow jobs bar none but it doesn't mean in the rest of Cambodia they don't know how to suck a dick properly, unfortunately this forum is such a congregation of newbies and misfits they all think all it takes is to get some good intel tips and they can master the field.

Wrong, all wrong, Phnom Penh is more hidden than public, it's not Pattaya, you need time and dedication to find the best deals.

ThePrinz

08-24-13, 17:15

Guys is Sorya Shopping Mall the busiest place with girls in the city? Planning to hit the busiest shopping mall and a University to set up dates for the evening and night.

Also which is the best site for meeting girls online in PP?Online, almost zero.

Offline, Sorya is a good place for gold diggers, but let me warn you, they will quickly size you up and expect to make some money accordingly, nothing is free in Cambodia.

If you think you can take an airplane and land here and find a free girl just because we're white you came in the wrong place.

If that matters, just go at Pontoon or Heart of Darkness, kiss them and see how it goes, but sooner or later they will talk about money or about some sort of long term engagement, why else do they go there hooking up with random foreigners?

As bad as it sounds, khmers and viets are unshamefully materialistric, it's ALL about money, and when they're drunk they will finally tell you they actually hate us white foreigners, yes, just because we're white and rich, because we're not of the same race, and don't worrry khmers hate the vietnamese much more than us, their racism is quite subtle and it's a long story.

Rick Rock

08-25-13, 03:15

Yep, the real thing on offer. Yum yum is the general term for BJ, but that doesn't necessarily mean DT.

Hard to find in Asia? That's not my experience. Try China. Or Thailand. Southern Viet better than Northern.Been to all of those places for a total of about 100 times. I've been blown in 30 countries. Go back and read my reports.

Yes BJ is easy to come by. True, hard deep throat down to the nuts on the other hand is not. That's what I'm looking for.

Ignore thePrinz. He's posts false information and racist stereotypes (aimed to justify his bizarre philosophies on life and Cambodia).

Where to meet girls online? Facebook is best. Find a popular Phnom Penh business then poach girls from the list of those who "like it." There are also some Khmer girls on the other main dating sites. I met a few that way.

And no, Sorya Mall isn't the most popular mall. City Mall is. Malls aren't what they are in a place like Thailand though. Rich girls are more likely to hang out at expensive cafes like Brown or ice cream shops like Bon Bon and shop in the upscale stores. The average (poor) people that you'll have a better chance with are in markets like Kandal and Orussei. Tourist infested places are hit or miss. Often the staff is up for going out after work if you chat them up.

Can you meet free scores? Absolutely. Last one I had let me drive around on her Scoopy moto, insisted on buying me Chinese noodles and then ended up at my place ("only for a back rub, you don't touch me okay?"). Got her there by constantly complaining about my back while we were together. She rubbed some Tiger Balm into my shoulders and then one thing led to another. Definitely happens. Don't let the angry old mongers and trolls deter you.

Even if they want to go out first, stick to the Khmer eating and drinking spots and you can do a whole night for $10.

Terrym1

08-27-13, 03:24

PussyFeelsGood

08-27-13, 23:55

NeverJerkOff

08-28-13, 04:11

Search through this thread and you will see Rickrock saying months ago how every girl he went with in Cambodia gave BJ's and were good at it.

Now he is asking where to get a good one.

Theres a reason everyone calls this guy a clown.I'm 6 months in Asia now and been in most countries and yet to see a Black guy with an Asian girl above a 2/10 so I really got to wonder when he starts talking about never paying more then $10 for a blowjob in Pattaya if she is under 65 years old or not. Until this changes I'm not taking advice from any black posters. If you guys are getting them on the down low, post pictures and you will have a new fan.

Rick Rock

08-28-13, 08:57

Rick Rock

08-28-13, 09:06

After reading some of the reports here, I've decided to come back for a few days. My last trip was 10 years ago, and there were beautiful Viet girls everywhere available for cheap. It sounds like those days are over, but I've been wanting to see how the place has changed. Most of my trip will be spent in Thailand. How many nights should I spend here to get a taste of Cambodia.

Thanks for the good info.A decade out? Seems things have changed immensely.

Some beautiful Viets at Cathouse. You basically have to promise them marriage and drop the price of a motorscooter to get them out of there though.

A few Vietnamese in the other bars, but not many. Expect bar girls to ask 30-40 ST and 50 LT, on top the barfine which is 10 at a lot of places. Most Viets I've seen in one bar were at City Bar on 110 next to the Old Market.

Massage girls want 20 bare minimum tip for a HJ. Outrageous asking for more, when they even offer it.

Lots of Viets at Martinis who are low quality and probably won't go less than 20 ST.

Walkabout and Sorya Mall have freelancers I wouldn't touch with your hand that may go for less than that.

Terrym1

08-29-13, 03:22

A decade out? Seems things have changed immensely.

Some beautiful Viets at Cathouse. You basically have to promise them marriage and drop the price of a motorscooter to get them out of there though.

A few Vietnamese in the other bars, but not many. Expect bar girls to ask 30-40 ST and 50 LT, on top the barfine which is 10 at a lot of places. Most Viets I've seen in one bar were at City Bar on 110 next to the Old Market.

Massage girls want 20 bare minimum tip for a HJ. Outrageous asking for more, when they even offer it.

Lots of Viets at Martinis who are low quality and probably won't go less than 20 ST.

Walkabout and Sorya Mall have freelancers I wouldn't touch with your hand that may go for less than that.Maybe the days of $5 full service from a pretty Viet at a massage place are over, but the hostess bars are new, so I look forward to checking those out.

Rick Rock

08-30-13, 04:12

Maybe the days of $5 full service from a pretty Viet at a massage place are over, but the hostess bars are new, so I look forward to checking those out.Read through the last few weeks of the thread and find the report by JohnTheMatress. He gives a good over view of the hostess bars.

ThePrinz

08-30-13, 08:25

Maybe the days of $5 full service from a pretty Viet at a massage place are over, but the hostess bars are new, so I look forward to checking those out.Not for 5$ but 6-10$ negotiable will do, I know 6 massages doing that but they're all very rough places so it's not a place for everybody.

There are less Vietnamese nowadays, most of the girls now are Khmer or mixed Viet/ Khmers, always from east ad south-east Cambodia.

The ones looking viet are from the border but they look mixed, it's rare to find a real white skinned tall vietnamese in this price range, sihanoukville is a better option for that.

I've seen 3 new massages also, two of them are run by MILFs and only do massages, and one probably offer some extras but I haven't tried yet.

Nearby there's also a new upscale massage next to an expensive hotel, need to investigate but it's a good sign to see new massages opening up.

Phil Istine

08-30-13, 17:54

Don't believe Rick Rock, most khmer girls don't like blow jobs and most are not practiced at it. Thailand was similar 35 years ago. Buddha no like.

PussyFeelsGood

08-30-13, 21:47

Absolute nonsense.

I said that 30 of 30 girls I went with gave oral, and that one even went for DT. I never said that any could take it down balls deep. That's incredibly difficult to find, something I've lamented publicly on this board for probably 5 years if you take the time to read what I've written.Anyone whose been here 5 years (or 5 weeks) knows not to waste their time reading things you write.

Past few pages on this thread you say you can haggle with the taxis at the airport, then you correct yourself when called on it and say "what I meant is walk out of the airport to the right 200 meters and talk to those guys"

Thats not the same thing as haggling with the taxis at the airport.

Have you really not noticed you are one of those guys that constantly in every area which you post has people calling you a clown? If it was one or two guys that would be one thing, but in the Philippines section they tell you that you are wrong, in the Thailand section, here. You just make shit up or twist things.

What have I contributed? No info is better than false info.

Rick Rock

08-31-13, 04:08

Anyone whose been here 5 years (or 5 weeks) knows not to waste their time reading things you write.

Past few pages on this thread you say you can haggle with the taxis at the airport, then you correct yourself when called on it and say "what I meant is walk out of the airport to the right 200 meters and talk to those guys"

Thats not the same thing as haggling with the taxis at the airport.Nope, totally wrong.

You made a quote out of thin air. I defy you to find anywhere on this site where I posted those words.

Some said tuk tuks and taxis won't budge at the airport. I said:

"Walk 150 feet to the road and tell a tuk tuk where you're going and that you'll give them $4. If they refuse, go to the next one. There is a line of 10+ at any given time. Same price to get back to the airport from anywhere in the city. Taxi is only $9 according to official prices. Tell them you'll give $7 and they'll take it."

Here's the post: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?937-Phnom-Penh&p=1454876&viewfull=1#post1454876

Nothing like what you said.

Have you really not noticed you are one of those guys that constantly in every area which you post has people calling you a clown? If it was one or two guys that would be one thing, but in the Philippines section they tell you that you are wrong, in the Thailand section, here. You just make shit up or twist things.No, I haven't noticed that.

I have noticed that my inbox is full from PMs asking me questions about South Korea, Japan and now Cambodia. I've noticed the FRs based on places I brought to this board that were never mentioned here before.

I've also noticed that some guys get angry for no reason but that I get blow jobs or have enough balls to negotiate and not overpay. Nothing to get mad about. Practice your approach and you too can have a similar outcome.

I've also noticed a lot of sock puppets and bullshit users who have never posted a shred of info are the kinds of account most likely to make posts about other users.

What have I contributed? No info is better than false info.You should post more reports and less about me.

Rick Rock

08-31-13, 04:19

Don't believe Rick Rock, most khmer girls don't like blow jobs and most are not practiced at it. Thailand was similar 35 years ago. Buddha no like."Most Khmer girls" live in wooden shacks in the provinces. Thankfully, most foreigners who come to PP aren't dealing with them.

There are plenty of Khmer girls who will give BJs. I can name 30. Plenty of bar girls (and those who don't will let you know before you take them if you discreetly ask) and plenty of civilians. The freelancers at Martinis and Walkabout, along with those in Sorya Mall, should all do it. Though I wouldn't touch the majority of them for free. Girls who have been married or had Barang boyfriends are also likely to do it.

I was with one girl who stayed with a Kiwi for a year, never blew him. I showed disbelief that a Barang would stand for that and she said "he told me I don't have to." I asked why she didn't try to see how it was and she said "I wanted to try but he never asked." Well, I asked and she tried with me. Very short, slow and shy action, but not bad. Could definitely have improved with some training but I only had 2 nights for her. You have to introduce things to people the right way, just like anything else.

Who doesn't do it? Girls fresh from the province that have little exposure to anything outside of their immediate surroundings. Even some them are game, especially if they had Khmer boyfriends who were into watching porn on their phones.

I have more news for you, the "modern girls" in Phnom Penh who drive cars or ride Scoopy motos, drink $4 coffee at Brown Cafe and post provocative pictures of themselves on Facebook with terrible English (go ahead and look, there are thousands) are into it all. Lots of younger girls (18-25) watch porn and do cam to cam chats with other guys their age. Say thanks to technology and embrace it.

It's also much easier to get them to do it if they like you. Cambodia isn't like Thailand. If you throw a bit of romance in, no matter how spurious, you're much more likely to get more mileage, even if money is the prime motivating factor.

GreenBud

08-31-13, 06:47

There are plenty of Khmer girls who will give BJs. I can name 30.Yes, there are thousands of Khmer girls that will do BJs. It takes effort to find them.

The freelancers at Martinis and Walkabout, along with those in Sorya Mall, should all do it. Though I wouldn't touch the majority of them for free.For Martinis, that is incorrect. You probably can find 30 girls at Martinis that will do it, but if you ask 30 of the top looking girls, many will not do it.

Don't have enough experiences at Walkabout or Sorya Mall to say anything about those places.

Rick Rock

08-31-13, 08:56

What's a "top girl" at Martinis? Is that like a steak from McDonalds? I didn't see anything over a 6 there.

You probably know better than me. I've only taken 2 Viets out of there (and only because I wanted to get something out of the trip half way across the city) , but BBBJ was not an issue.

GreenBud

08-31-13, 09:46

What's a "top girl" at Martinis?The best of what's available.

Is that like a steak from McDonalds?Yes. When you are hungry, it taste good.

I didn't see anything over a 6 there.Generally agree (in my personal bell curve scale). I'm happy with 6's that do everything. I have seen the occasional 7.

MutantChicken

09-01-13, 06:29

I have noticed that my inbox is full from PMs asking me questions about South Korea, Japan and now Cambodia. I've noticed the FRs based on places I brought to this board that were never mentioned here before.I remember you mentioning how you brought to this forum knowledge of the 20 dollar double BJ bars in Tokyo. Its very strange that I type in BJ bar Tokyo into the search engine on google and I'm led to a gaijen website informing the reader about strawberry, jan jan and a bunch of other pinsaro. Seems your discoveries are pretty well known and easy to find so its either you think you are introducing something new when in actuality you don't I mean for god sakes strawberry has a webpage to say it accepts foreigners, or the guys in the Japan thread don't know how to do a search. I suppose next, you will be discovering walkabout and intro that to this forum right.

Rick Rock

09-02-13, 08:24

I remember you mentioning how you brought to this forum knowledge of the 20 dollar double BJ bars in Tokyo. Its very strange that I type in BJ bar Tokyo into the search engine on google and I'm led to a gaijen website informing the reader about strawberry, jan jan and a bunch of other pinsaro. Seems your discoveries are pretty well known and easy to find so its either you think you are introducing something new when in actuality you don't I mean for god sakes strawberry has a webpage to say it accepts foreigners, or the guys in the Japan thread don't know how to do a search. I suppose next, you will be discovering walkabout and intro that to this forum right1. I made the post here 6 months before that report appeared on the website you are talking about.

2. I am the guy who told the owner of that site about the place.

3. Nice try.

PussyFeelsGood

09-02-13, 18:31

It's absolutely possible, both with taxis and tuk tuks. I'm curious to know what they charged you for the trip now.Here is what you said before you changed it to "walk 150 feet away".

PussyFeelsGood

09-02-13, 18:38

AussieGuy100

09-03-13, 04:56

I lived in Cambodia for over half a year, maybe 1 out of 3 girls there would give a BJ, and maybe 1 out of 10 were any good at it.

But Rickrock claims he went with 30 and got 30 bjs. Anyone who has spent anytime in Cambodia knows he was talking out of his ass when he made that claim, but knowing him we will try and take it back now and twist his own words.

If your pm box really is full its from noobs who buy into your BS, anyone with any experience in any of the places you talk about would know not to waste their time following your fantasy advice.To be fair to Rick, he did say he got most of his girls from Cyrcee and other similar places. I'm sure anyone could go to Cyrcee and get pretty much a 100% success rate when asking for a BJ.

For girls from hostess bars it also sometimes depends on what the guy is like. If he just marches in, buys a girl one drink, asks if she does BJs, then she is likely to say no. But if he takes her out anyway, treats her well, is generous and then asks her about BJs when he takes her our for the second or third time, she is more likely to say yes.

Not everyone has the patience or inclination to do this but it can be worthwhile. I took a girl out several times and she progressed from being very limited in what she would do to being a genuine three holer who would do all sorts of extra stuff as she got to know me better. By about the sixth time, we were making a porn movie with her doing most of the directing!

Melted11

09-03-13, 05:11

What PusstFeelsGood and Aussie Guy both report is the case.

Rick Rock is despised on quite a few threads from other countries. He is a braggart and gives highly misleading info. Why would so many separate individuals take him to task? Independent of each other. No one likes that guy. Period.

Aussie Guy is right as well. What he says is all true. And frankly that goes worldwide. Quality time spent with a girl leads to many advantages down the line.

I've lived in PP for over 15 years. While BJ's are much more common than they were in earlier years. Most Khmers are shy about them. Viets never.

It is impossible for a 100% BJ success rate here from nice, cute friendly Khmers in general. Yet from Cyrcee. Yes absolutely. But that is the only place. Unless you verbalize it beforehand at skanky venues like Walkabout, freelancers at Sorya, etc.

Now in PP you have to "shop" till you drop for a cute unspoilt "non-Pro" unhardened Khmer who actually likes sex. Very very rare. They are highly socialized to be fearful of sex and to find it distasteful. So it goes. Hard to overcome that type of conditioning.

Good luck! They are gems to be fond.

Rick Rock

09-03-13, 05:12

Here is what you said before you changed it to "walk 150 feet away".Holy hell. Do you have reading comprehension problems? Nothing changed between those two posts.

What I was explaining is that you certainly CAN negotiate with the guys right outside the gate at the airport and even if you are unable to talk them down you CAN THEN walk 150 feet to the tuk tuks parked along the street. You can use that to get prices down and it can work, as I've seen first hand.

Did you miss this part?? "Taxi is only $9 according to official prices. Tell them you'll give $7 and they'll take it."

Same in the market. Oh you want $3 for a Samsung charger? They have them over there for $2, I'll go there. Then she stops you and says, okay $2. Doesn't always work, but often can.

When I was flying in and out of PP every week I got in with cab drivers for $7 a trip. Believe it or not, doesn't really matter to me.

If you've lived in PP so long you should know there really is no set price on anything in the country (unless you're at a Lucky or Smile Mart).

Rick Rock

09-03-13, 05:20

To be fair to Rick, he did say he got most of his girls from Cyrcee and other similar places. I'm sure anyone could go to Cyrcee and get pretty much a 100% success rate when asking for a BJ.

For girls from hostess bars it also sometimes depends on what the guy is like. If he just marches in, buys a girl one drink, asks if she does BJs, then she is likely to say no. But if he takes her out anyway, treats her well, is generous and then asks her about BJs when he takes her our for the second or third time, she is more likely to say yes.

Not everyone has the patience or inclination to do this but it can be worthwhile. I took a girl out several times and she progressed from being very limited in what she would do to being a genuine three holer who would do all sorts of extra stuff as she got to know me better. By about the sixth time, we were making a porn movie with her doing most of the directing!Exactly right.

Most guys treat Cambodia like a Thailand go go. Walk in, buy a drink, take a girl."You suck dick?" LOL. Might work in Walkabout or Golden Sorya. Maybe a fishbowl if you temper it a bit. That's about it.

It's nothing like that in hostess bars. Visit the bar a few times. Get to know her by name. Maybe take a girl out for some soup.

If you do it right and there's a good feeling between you and the woman, you get 1000% better service. Plus if you get to know her, you know what's she's up for.

I've had girls in places like Zanzibar DFK me in the bar. I knew what kind of service I would get. Other times, at bars like 69, I had to visit once or twice to see what was up. If they were continually cold, I wouldn't take them. But many warmed up and went from being stand offish to sitting in my lap and looking into my eyes. Knew what was up again. Some girls are adamant that they will never do BJ from the beginning. Guess what? Don't take them.

And as I said, most of the modern PP women under 25 who work outside of the bars and markets (or don't work at all) are up for everything Western women are. Especially if they speak English. This goes for the girls at City Mall, in the Brown Cafes, etc.

The bank employee I hooked up with watched more porn than I do. Her phone was loaded with short cuts to xvideo.

A girl that worked a "regular" massage place by the river also pulled out an old cell phone with a grainy porn movie on it that she wanted to watch together (it was my 4th visit in as many days, HE every time).

By the looks of some of the guys walking around PP, and the attitudes I see from them in the bars and on this forum, it's no wonder they don't get sucked off. Who in their right mind would want to?

CaliPro

09-03-13, 06:51

CorporateMalaya

09-03-13, 11:46

Traveler1234

09-03-13, 14:50

What PusstFeelsGood and Aussie Guy both report is the case. Rick Rock is despised on quite a few threads from other countries.Leave him alone LOL

Member #4698

09-03-13, 22:35

Betong

09-04-13, 02:51

Now in PP you have to "shop" till you drop for a cute unspoilt "non-Pro" unhardened Khmer who actually likes sex.Hey, I'll happily settle for a professional, hardened Khmer who really likes sex! And at least they're much easier to find than they were 10 or 15 years ago.

Melted11

09-04-13, 05:31

Hey, I'll happily settle for a professional, hardened Khmer who really likes sex! And at least they're much easier to find than they were 10 or 15 years ago.Hey. To each his own. You might like 2 kilos of makeup, clock watching, possible theft, garish "hooker" outfits, hard chiseled features, etc.

But for myself? Girl next door please. With nasty curious intentions and genuine affection and gratitude. And that aint "pro" my friend.

Why come here for that Pro Crap? Pros abound in all other countries. The real reason to come here is for the unspoilt gems in the "forest of skank". And soon they might be gone.

The clock is ticking and pickings are slimmer each and every month.

Rick Rock

09-04-13, 07:07

What PusstFeelsGood and Aussie Guy both report is the case.

Rick Rock is despised on quite a few threads from other countries. He is a braggart and gives highly misleading info. Why would so many separate individuals take him to task? Independent of each other. No one likes that guy. Period.If you notice, the majority of guys who "despise me" (on an internet forum, really?) are "regular members" that have less than 50 posts, most of which contain no info of use to anyone. How many of those are sock puppets for the same morons?

Lots of long-time, quality Senior Members like Tiger 888, Wendella, Joyra, WestCoast1, Meiji, HatGuy, etc, are totally cool with me and we have happily talked and exchanged info. These are some of the best posters on the history of this forum.

Coincidence?

Most Khmers are shy about them. Viets never.Really? Tell that to the 3 Viets who work at city bar and don't nyum kradah.

Now in PP you have to "shop" till you drop for a cute unspoilt "non-Pro" unhardened Khmer who actually likes sex. Very very rare. They are highly socialized to be fearful of sex and to find it distasteful. So it goes. Hard to overcome that type of conditioning.Right. That's why there is such a lack of babies in Cambodia. Oh wait, the average Khmer woman has 5.

Typical thinking. If girls won't have sex with you they must not want to have sex. Usually it comes from guys who also can't get laid in their home countries.

Khmer women have pussies that get as wet as women from any other country. They like sex just as much. If they don't like it with you, that's a personal issue.

D Cups

09-04-13, 15:44

I picked up one with big boobs from Rose bar, she was real nice for two days non-stop wham bam. Still emails me like crazy. Air Force had some cuties, too. Have fun.

Guys I have put together all the info on PP nightlife I could find. I was wondering if someone could help e break it down in further detail or any other thoughts or experiences regarding the places. Favorites etc? Missing anything of note?

I am only going to be in PP for 4 nights, so I need to pick carefully LOL. Pontoon, Walkabout, and Heart of Darkness are a must...

Melted11

09-04-13, 17:14

Hey Rick Rock, We all know that you're incredibly handsome and charismatic.

And that all the women in the entire world pay you to sleep with them.

Of course.

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Knight 1001

09-04-13, 22:12

Planning my first tour mid October, still undecided between street 51 or 136 for the hotel. Found blue tongue near pontoon, they confirm they are GF. Any advice on merits or demerits of either choice. Has anyone tried welkom inn on 144?

Why don't you try a very nice and cheap guest house on street 130, Sary guesthouse, basically in the heart of the bar streets district, between street 136 and street 118, close to street 13. Its also quite cheap, rooms start at around 16$ I believe and quite a few bars in that street with the newest and probably the best and cleanest bar in town only a few yards away: the "Loco" bar. Great lovely girls too with frequent promotions on drinks. Great value for money.

Enjoy

CaliPro

09-05-13, 00:11

Rick Rock

09-05-13, 06:39

I booked 4 nights at the Sundance Inn & Saloon. Walking distance from Riverside and Sorya nightlife area.

I booked my room for 2 adults. Hopefully this place will allow me to bring back a girl or I will be fucked.

Anyone have any experience with this hotel before?You'd still be okay. Guesthouses all over the city will rent to you short time for $2-5. They even have condoms. Any experienced girl or tuk tuk will know where they are.

CaliPro

09-05-13, 08:28

You'd still be okay. Guesthouses all over the city will rent to you short time for $2-5. They even have condoms. Any experienced girl or tuk tuk will know where they are.Problem is most these girls won't be hookers. Girls I met online and at the mall. Some from nightclubs like Pontoon and HOD, but most of those are hookers anyways.

Wouldn't want the hassle of dealing with getting girls to go to some sleezy sex motel.

Hatguy

09-05-13, 11:05

If you go to Cyrcee don't go to the ST hotel across the road. It sucks. Tell the girl you want to go to the one around the corner. MUCH cleaner and better. And whilst I'm talking about Cyrcee it is one of the places I really hope sticks around.

PussyFeelsGood

09-06-13, 00:50

AussieGuy100

09-06-13, 01:34

Guys I have put together all the info on PP nightlife I could find. I was wondering if someone could help e break it down in further detail or any other thoughts or experiences regarding the places. Favorites etc? Missing anything of note?

I am only going to be in PP for 4 nights, so I need to pick carefully LOL. Pontoon, Walkabout, and Heart of Darkness are a must.I've added some comments to your list below and edited it to include my favourites. And also look at the threads of distinction.

It depends on what sort of four days experience you want. Four days with an English speaking, beautiful, funny girl who will take care of you, be your translator and tour guide and bang you senseless day and night? Try some of the better hostess bars and be generous.

Four days of sex with multiple girls at often cheaper prices? Cyrcee, Sorya Mall, G Pub on 51, a couple of hostess bars like Airforce and Rose Bar, and maybe Heart of Darkness.

Golden Sorya Mall. Great for freelancers, especially later at night. Guys often underestimate the quality of some of the girls here, but you have to be very selective.

Sharky. Forget it.

Loco Bar. Great new upmarket bar on 130. Friendly girls, about 75% will go out with you, not overloud music.

Pontoon. Great after midnight.

Walkabout. Forget it.

69 Bar. Girls often have aggressive attitudes and ask crazy prices.

Mao's Club. New. Some nice girls.

Heart of Darkness. Same as Pontoon.

Martini. Often has some great freelancers from about 9pm

Shanghai Bar. Often bad attitude from the girls.

St Tropez. Go to Pontoon instead if discos are your thing.

River House. For eating yes. For girls, no.

Darling Darling. Expensive and not many girls.

Candy. Bad attitude from the girls and ladyboys.

Best Bar 136. Ok. Live music sometimes. Next to the good Loco Bar.

Butterfly. Bad attitude sometimes.

Streets 104 & 136.

Personally I find 104 tacky and unappealing these days. 136 is much better with a choice of decent bars. Oasis and Cavalry Bar are possibly the best.

Airforce Bar. A must visit just to see the mass of often drunk girls. But double-check your bill. Known for padding bills.

Rose Bar. Another long established bar. Sometimes great atmosphere when it's busy. Expensive asking prices.

FreebieFan

09-06-13, 03:16

Planning my first tour mid October, still undecided between street 51 or 136 for the hotel. Found blue tongue near pontoon, they confirm they are GF. Any advice on merits or demerits of either choice. Has anyone tried welkom inn on 144?Blue tongue is great. Get the larger rooms. Breakfast is very average but the wifi works fine.

No issues with girls. I had plenty there and not a word was said.

Front desk staff are both Cambodian and Filipino.

Lots of tuk tuks at end of road.

Good location and not on main road so quiet-ish.

CaliPro

09-07-13, 08:22

Aussieguy,

Thanks for your breakdown.

For the record, I don't plan on "paying" for any girls. I am 27 and never needed to in any of my travels.

Ideally I would like to bang 3-6 girls during my 4 nights / 5 days in Phnom Penh. Them coming from a combination of online game and nightgame (clubs / bars).

In a perfect world I would schedule a day date every day with a girl from online, and after eating go back to my hotel to "watch a movie" and seal the deal. Then send her on her way shortly after. Then go out at night and get a ONS (one night stand) from one of the clubs or bars. So perfection would be 8 girls. This isn't in no way going to happen BTW LOL Planning for something in between. Maybe 2 girls from online and 2 girls from nightgame. And even that would be rather good by Cambodian standards. Philippines that would be no problem.

So if you were to pick 5 girly / hostess bars (not the clubs like Pontoon / HOD) for me to check out which would they be? Would mainly just be going inside to have a beer or two and flirt / get some girls numbers for when they get of work or the next day. So the ones with the best girls, and best fun / friendly atmosphere.

AskeAske

09-07-13, 23:13

I've added some comments to your list below and edited it to include my favourites. And also look at the threads of distinction.

It depends on what sort of four days experience you want. Four days with an English speaking, beautiful, funny girl who will take care of you, be your translator and tour guide and bang you senseless day and night? Try some of the better hostess bars and be generous.I come to PP again in two weeks, so thank you for your update. Can you also give me a update on prices? Is it still low season and how do it reflects on prices?

Red Kilt

09-08-13, 05:23

For the record, I don't plan on "paying" for any girls. I am 27 and never needed to in any of my travels.

. .

So if you were to pick 5 girly / hostess bars (not the clubs like Pontoon / HOD) for me to check out which would they be? Would mainly just be going inside to have a beer or two and flirt / get some girls numbers for when they get of work or the next day. So the ones with the best girls, and best fun / friendly atmosphere.This guy asks the same questions on the Philippines board.

El cheapo monger who believes that girls are salivating for his body only and never want any payment for service.

I think PP might give him a rude shock. As far as I recall, there are NO girls there who go out at night purely for the pleasure of having sex with Super stud Calipro. It all has a price tag in some way or another.

CaliPro

09-08-13, 05:30

This guy asks the same questions on the Philippines board.

El cheapo monger who believes that girls are salivating for his body only and never want any payment for service.

I think PP might give him a rude shock. As far as I recall, there are NO girls there who go out at night purely for the pleasure of having sex with Super stud Calipro. It all has a price tag in some way or another.Smh at this hater.

No poo I asked the same question on the Philippines thread as well as the Vietnam thread and will be posting on the Thailand thread as I am going to all these places as soon as my contract is finished in Korea come end of November.

You like many mistake confidence for cockiness. Maybe you should get some and then you might not have to pay all the time.

PS. Sorry guys for feeding this troll / protagonist. Couldn't help myself.

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Asian Rain

09-08-13, 08:02

El cheapo monger who believes that girls are salivating for his body only and never want any payment for service.This is a P4P board, so don't quite understand if CP understands the slant of the board. Anyway, if his requirement is for non-P4P experience, just steer him strictly towards non-P4P venues. The vibe that he sends though is that he wants to hunt P4P venues with the specific intention of picking up girls and then not paying. Okay if that is the upfront deal. Bad karma if that is not the case. AR

GooberMonger

09-08-13, 12:21

Rickrock making a fool of himself as usual.

Khmers like sex as much as girls from any country? They like it least of any Asian country I've been to, and anyone that has been to Thailand, Cambodia and the Philippines would agree with that. Unless they are some weirdo who comes here to post misinformation like Rick.It all depends on the girl, I've had girls that could never get enough from Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and every other country I've been in and had dead fish from the same countries too.

That's as stupid as saying Khmers don't like BBBJ, sounds like something a teenager would say.

Cheers,

GM

Medanboy

09-08-13, 17:59

I think PP might give him a rude shock. As far as I recall, there are NO girls there who go out at night purely for the pleasure of having sex with Super stud Calipro. It all has a price tag in some way or another.Well I made the jump towards Pnom Phen and will try it out. I am meeting a 32 why who looks to me like 28. I pay the more expensive dinners. She, the parking and local khnmer food. Will see where it gets me however perhaps it doesn't count as a "girl". Still a price tag dinnerwise if it works out and I get to learn the city. Only had a short hello with her many years ago. Perhaps not the best quality I can get but I like the game. Got invited for a karaoke with locals where apparently girl company us included. A bit strsnge as another women local would accompany us to? Seems normsl to them if I negotiate with the inhouse karaoke company? Any thoughts on that? I made clear we split the bill of the karaoke; they said ok if I don't overdrink. So I'm looking for an angle as I'm quite paranoid sometimes.

Otherwise I will try the other options nicely explained on this forum. Thanks for that! Appreciate the links.

Will post where I finally end up and will try not to overpay.

GooberMonger

09-08-13, 19:48

Well I made the jump towards Pnom Phen and will try it out. I am meeting a 32 why who looks to me like 28. I pay the more expensive dinners. She, the parking and local khnmer food. Will see where it gets me however perhaps it doesn't count as a "girl". Still a price tag dinnerwise if it works out and I get to learn the city. Only had a short hello with her many years ago. Perhaps not the best quality I can get but I like the game. Got invited for a karaoke with locals where apparently girl company us included. A bit strsnge as another women local would accompany us to? Seems normsl to them if I negotiate with the inhouse karaoke company? Any thoughts on that? I made clear we split the bill of the karaoke; they said ok if I don't overdrink. So I'm looking for an angle as I'm quite paranoid sometimes.

Otherwise I will try the other options nicely explained on this forum. Thanks for that! Appreciate the links.

Will post where I finally end up and will try not to overpay.Girl company is included, but a tip is always polite at the end of the evening or when your time is up. A lot of KTVs have deals where you buy a case of beer and the room and girls are free for a few hours.

If you see a girl you like you can take her usually for $30 for a short time, I have paid $50 but the girl was a 9/10 and only ever been with one customer before. She sold her virginity for $300 to a Japanese man, so she was still like a virgin. Not a lot of fun because of her lack of experience and had to be gentle with her. Good girl to become a regular with though.

Anyway if I remember correct the bill was $70 for 3 hours, but we had a case of ABC and 6 Angkors, plus lady drinks and food. That's on the high side for most KTVs but the girls were all nice and it was a higher class club.

Anyway whose talking about P for free, it happens but is very rare even if you look like Brad Pitt the girls don't care. 99. 99% are far more interested in the size of your wallet. You may think your getting it for free but you'll be paying one way or another.

Play safe,

GM

Shadow6491

09-09-13, 00:57

Smh at this hater.

No poo I asked the same question on the Philippines thread as well as the Vietnam thread and will be posting on the Thailand thread as I am going to all these places as soon as my contract is finished in Korea come end of November.

You like many mistake confidence for cockiness. Maybe you should get some and then you might not have to pay all the time.

PS. Sorry guys for feeding this troll / protagonist. Couldn't help myself.As the previous poster mentioned you may be in for a shock and a world of pain if you take a girl home from a hostess bar and try to send her on her way with no money after doing the deed. You could end up getting beating by her friends (Not her girl friends) or you might even get a knock on the door from a policeman. You could get accused or set up on all sorts of things.

If you do plan on no money make sure it is very clear before you leave the premises. Even when you plan on paying if you are new to the town or a particular girl who has not been told how much you pay, its best to make everything very clear.

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09-09-13, 01:39

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Enough is enough.

Thanks!

FreebieFan

09-09-13, 02:18

This guy asks the same questions on the Philippines board.

El cheapo monger who believes that girls are salivating for his body only and never want any payment for service.

I think PP might give him a rude shock. As far as I recall, there are NO girls there who go out at night purely for the pleasure of having sex with Super stud Calipro. It all has a price tag in some way or another.Its interesting that he says hes in Korea on a contract, but the boy doesn't seem to make any posts about his experiences in Korea.

As we all know, firstly, mongering is quite pricey for a white boy in Korea, and secondly the Koreans don't take shit from anyone, and the women are way fiercer than the men.

Guess he wants to stiff the more harmless Filipinas and Cambodians.

The boy must get his jollies from that. Oh and of course from looking in the mirror and seeing his oh so good looks.

Poor Cali boy. Literally and figuratively.

AskeAske

09-09-13, 07:02

At Freebie,

Your a character you know. Don't you have something better to do than follow me around ISG? LOL.

I don't post in Korea forum due to doing nothing in regards to P4P here. Hell I barely even go out to regular clubs as I live a decent ways from Seoul and I am saving most my money.

Your jealously and try to hard persona is amusing to say the least. It's ok man, your going to make it.This is a forum to exchange information and experience with women and sex in different countries. It is important that everyone contribute their experiences, so we are prepared when we experience a new destination.

Therefore, it is ok when you, Cali, have questions. The problem is that you are claiming that you have a lot of experience with women from different countries, but I can not see you anywhere on ISG has provided information which we others can enjoy.

If you want to be taken seriously, please give us your experiences. How do you get girls to go with you for free? Have you had some bad experiences with misconceptions about payment etc. Write about some specific experiences, like with real images. If you do not contribute, there is no one bother to answer your questions.

If you do not wish to contribute, you have no right to ask questions.

And please do not to belittle those who make quistion about your motives. Let's keep a good tone on the ISG.

Kniom

09-09-13, 14:38

I wish you all the best of luck.

But, I remember one girl (years ago. 2005 I guess) who I dated for several years on a "regular" basis. Fixed price. Never had problems. She even called my "Srolang" (Khmer for boyfriend, haha). When I was (once again) on my final evening in PP she wanted to come with me and join me to the airport to say good bye to me next morning. When I said "ok, but whatever happens during the night. I don't pay you any money. You call me boyfriend. So I will see who / what I am for you". She agreed. Of course we didn't just sleep. She started 3 times that night.

Next morning, when I had to leave. Drama, disaster!

I remember her words like "I taxigirl. You fuck. You pay. No matter you customer or boyfriend"

In the end I handed her 10$ (the good old times.).

After that she even went to the airport with me (and at least didn't ask for further money ("moto back home" e. G.).

The moral of that example?

Even if she agrees with you. Don't count on it. She might even think you are joking because no one takes a p4p-girl home without paying.

Take care!

PussyFeelsGood

09-09-13, 18:26

It all depends on the girl, I've had girls that could never get enough from Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and every other country I've been in and had dead fish from the same countries too.

That's as stupid as saying Khmers don't like BBBJ, sounds like something a teenager would say.

Cheers,

GMOk,

But saying they love it as much as girls in any other country is complete BS.

The percentage of girls that like sex, want sex, and need sex is far less than other Asian countries I have been to.

Walk down the street in Cambodia and 99% of the attention you get from women will come from taxi girls who will tell you no in the bedroom to just about anything you want to do and just lay there while you do them missionary.

Walk down the street in the Philippines and you will get smiles from 25% of the girls you pass whether they are working girls or not, and when you get them into bed they are active participants not just waiting for your time to be up.

If Calipro is wanting to get girls for free then he should just stick to PI, the old dudes on the PI board keep telling him its not possible there either but thats bollocks any young white guy can find a girl to come home with him there at any time with little effort.

But Cambodia is a different story, sure he can probably find a girl if he goes to heart of darkness and Pontoon but its going to take a lot more effort and there's a good chance she is going to expect money in the morning even if it hasn't been discussed yet.

I've spent a reasonable amount of time in Cambodia / Thailand / pi and in my opinion:

Cambodian girls don't really like sex they just do it for the money and the majority don't even try to pretend otherwise.

Thai girls do it for the money but are good at acting like its about more.

Pinays just love to fuck, even if its about money they are also actually enjoying it, and many of them just want a new experience with a foreigner.

Thats why the Philippines wins.

CaliPro

09-10-13, 01:19

CaliPro

09-10-13, 01:26

Gone Around

09-10-13, 02:49

calipro, et al looking for freebies in cambodia. it's possible. however, it's more effort than in other places. more time investment, but well worth talking gals up and showing real interest in them. further, i still end up giving them a little bit of money to help pay for taxi or whatever. however, it's cheaper and more fun than p4p, but not as fast.

if you want to speed up the process, then try the local ktv. the one without any foreigners around and no where near tourists. however, some gals there are working girls. others, are college students earning extra cash and will give you a serious girlfriend experience.

sometimes, being able to walk into martini's at 8 pm and walk out by 8:05 pm with a girl for $ 20 evening is pretty handy.

J Martinez

09-10-13, 06:48

The percentage of girls that like sex, want sex, and need sex is far less than other Asian countries I have been to. Thats why the Philippines wins.As a well-traveled monger, Cambodia is at the bottom of my list for sex, like you said. While I haven't spend years in the Philippines, I would place it 2nd behind Thailland.

The advantage of Cambodia for the frequent / long-term visitor / ex-pat is the price and the wild-west feeling. In my opinion, you can't live much cheaper while having a nice place to live, good food, and a young dollar-starved hottie as your live-in. The only real expense is electricity at 25 cents per KwHr. Of course, the same is possible in Thai and Plillippines with a bit more money and effort.

Medanboy

09-10-13, 12:13

Girl company is included, but a tip is always polite at the end of the evening or when your time is up. A lot of KTVs have deals where you buy a case of beer and the room and girls are free for a few hours.

If you see a girl you like you can take her usually for $30 for a short time, I have paid $50 but the girl was a 9/10 and only ever been with one customer before. She sold her virginity for $300 to a Japanese man, so she was still like a virgin. Not a lot of fun because of her lack of experience and had to be gentle with her. Good girl to become a regular with though.

Anyway if I remember correct the bill was $70 for 3 hours, but we had a case of ABC and 6 Angkors, plus lady drinks and food. That's on the high side for most KTVs but the girls were all nice and it was a higher class club.

Anyway whose talking about P for free, it happens but is very rare even if you look like Brad Pitt the girls don't care. 99. 99% are far more interested in the size of your wallet. You may think your getting it for free but you'll be paying one way or another.

Play safe,

GMThanks for the reply. An update on what happened so first.

First night I go out with the 32 why old. We had a good time. She gome home when we get back. Staying in a boutique hotel which is girl friendly. A reception guy proposed we go together to a lady bar and help me get 1 back. He say he is responsible I am happy custome; my guess it is low season and they would like me to extend as I pay 60$ for the room. With booking. Com its 120$. But as it is more like a big appartement I still find it a good deal. Or he needs a reason to go to. Don't know. 2nd night she pay the khmer style food. I the expensive restaurant. Later in the day I go to the birthday of a friend of her and we go clubbing. Her best friend insist to pay everything. When we drive back it is late and she stay with me. Quite gentle action. Tried it 2 times. 2nd time bit more intense. The plastic and the fact I'm used to much younger made me after 3 hours still not come. She propose we go to clinic for health check so we can do it without the plastic / rubber. Good GFE but no finish so doesn't work. Now she propose she help me to get younger. Don't think she really means it. She still wants to hangout and at the phone she says she's horny and wants more.

Brings me to the inhouse massage. First 9/10 and supercute but not a word english. She seemed to mention she was shy but couldn't keep her eyes of me. Nothing. 2nd massage with oil this time; english; from siem reab; typical good looking bla bla and aks if I have girlfriend. At start we say 1 hour or maybe longer. When finished lay down a bit; I say longer is ok; she says something about small and not big and that she hungry. 2 good massages but nothing. If there is a magical khmer word do let me know!

So on almost 2 days I haven't gotten that far. Great food, excellent massages and good company though. Will take your guys adresses and remarks and do it that way. Bar time when the rain stops.

GooberMonger

09-10-13, 14:45

Ok,

But saying they love it as much as girls in any other country is complete BS.

The percentage of girls that like sex, want sex, and need sex is far less than other Asian countries I have been to.

Walk down the street in Cambodia and 99% of the attention you get from women will come from taxi girls who will tell you no in the bedroom to just about anything you want to do and just lay there while you do them missionary.

Walk down the street in the Philippines and you will get smiles from 25% of the girls you pass whether they are working girls or not, and when you get them into bed they are active participants not just waiting for your time to be up.

If Calipro is wanting to get girls for free then he should just stick to PI, the old dudes on the PI board keep telling him its not possible there either but thats bollocks any young white guy can find a girl to come home with him there at any time with little effort...I agree percentage wise Cambodian girls aren't as horny, but it's because they know nothing about sex and 99% of them have never had an orgasm too and most of them are virgins that aren't taxi girls, but don't count them out they love Caucasian men old and young. I have had several Khmer GFs and they were virgins or never had an orgasm before, but after they have that first big "O" they turn into LBFMs.

I also have no problems picking them up, from Bank Tellers to University students, garment factory works etc. I get good eye contact and big smiles from at least 75% of them.

If I'm out in Cambodia and want just a shag though, you are correct I look for a VN, Chinese or Korean before a Khmer girl and Thai girls have lost that loving feeling it's gone gone gone. Ten years ago Thai girls were number one by far, but today there just ain't no GFE there. Then the Filipinos well by 19 they have the experience of a 30 year old, got to love those Catholic Girls, you know how they go, everyday and all the way. Difficult to find one under 25 that doesn't have a kid, just my personal experience.

It maybe because I live in Cambodia and speak the language that gives me a bigger selection, I don't know, but have had some wild GFs here and still do today.

Cheers,

GM

Rick Rock

09-10-13, 21:09

But, I remember one girl (years ago. 2005 I guess) who I dated for several years on a "regular" basis. Fixed price. Never had problems. She even called my "Srolang" (Khmer for boyfriend, haha).You dated her for years but didn't even learn the meaning of the word she said to you over all that time?

The word you wrote means love. Boyfriend is "song sa pro". I learned those on my 3 weeks in country. But what do I know? I'm obviously an idiot as the legendary "pussyfeelsgood" can tell you.

As the kid has found out, it's absolutely possible to get sex 100% for free, in Cambodia as anywhere else. In fact it's actually a little easier than it is in some other places because the idea of romance is still alive and well.

Note that this doesn't apply if you're fat, old, stinky, alcoholic and incapable of picking up women in your home country. It also doesn't apply to most professional working girls (which are the only women 99% of tourists and expats ever talk to) , though I know for an absolute fact that some of them can be had in off hours free of charge too if they like they guy in question.

Shadow6491

09-10-13, 23:57

Thanks for the reply. An update on what happened so first.

First night I go out with the 32 why old. We had a good time. She gome home when we get back. Staying in a boutique hotel which is girl friendly. A reception guy proposed we go together to a lady bar and help me get 1 back. He say he is responsible I am happy custome; my guess it is low season and they would like me to extend as I pay 60$ for the room. With booking. Com its 120$. But as it is more like a big appartement I still find it a good deal. Or he needs a reason to go to. Don't know. 2nd night she pay the khmer style food. I the expensive restaurant. Later in the day I go to the birthday of a friend of her and we go clubbing. Her best friend insist to pay everything. When we drive back it is late and she stay with me. Quite gentle action. Tried it 2 times. 2nd time bit more intense. The plastic and the fact I'm used to much younger made me after 3 hours still not come. She propose we go to clinic for health check so we can do it without the plastic / rubber. Good GFE but no finish so doesn't work. Now she propose she help me to get younger. Don't think she really means it. She still wants to hangout and at the phone she says she's horny and wants more.

Brings me to the inhouse massage. First 9/10 and supercute but not a word english. She seemed to mention she was shy but couldn't keep her eyes of me. Nothing. 2nd massage with oil this time; english; from siem reab; typical good looking bla bla and aks if I have girlfriend. At start we say 1 hour or maybe longer. When finished lay down a bit; I say longer is ok; she says something about small and not big and that she hungry. 2 good massages but nothing. If there is a magical khmer word do let me know!

So on almost 2 days I haven't gotten that far. Great food, excellent massages and good company though. Will take your guys adresses and remarks and do it that way. Bar time when the rain stops.Ok don't take this the wrong way but you missed a couple of obvious ques to me for action here. The first was saying your are hadsome man and this may mean she is open to an invitation to go out later or more depending on the language barrier otherwise you will end up going slow.

The second on small not big and I am hungry Is the line for you to say ok you eat my dick and it will get bigger. Knyum kadoar, Kadoar tom. There was definitely some action on the table here the girls don't want to create embarrassing situations with clients that are not inot that sort of stuff. So you do have to listen and look for any clues that more action will be available.

I was in on massage place which was a total nude type job and too some this may sound wiered but with a mate in the same room he was also with a girl getting massaged. Anyway the girls were complaining in Khmer that they had no money for their phones so we politely pointer out we would be happy to pay for extra services. That occasion it didn't work. But on other later occasions no problem BJ was on the offering.

Medanboy

09-11-13, 12:37

Ok don't take this the wrong way but you missed a couple of obvious ques to me for action here. The first was saying your are hadsome man and this may mean she is open to an invitation to go out later or more depending on the language barrier otherwise you will end up going slow.

The second on small not big and I am hungry Is the line for you to say ok you eat my dick and it will get bigger. Knyum kadoar, Kadoar tom. There was definitely some action on the table here the girls don't want to create embarrassing situations with clients that are not inot that sort of stuff. So you do have to listen and look for any clues that more action will be available.

I was in on massage place which was a total nude type job and too some this may sound wiered but with a mate in the same room he was also with a girl getting massaged. Anyway the girls were complaining in Khmer that they had no money for their phones so we politely pointer out we would be happy to pay for extra services. That occasion it didn't work. But on other later occasions no problem BJ was on the offering.Oke. Thanks for the input. Perhaps I should show more clear to what I would want. But don't want to be inpolite. In indonesia usually the lady asks abd I can speak the language so more easy. Cambodian khmer language I learn everyday 1 word. Hope I ll get there eventually. Appreciate the remarks.

So to kick off the adventures as I hadn't come in 3 days I decided to go to hotel paris as it seemed a friendly my kind of style place (massage with FS after). Thanks to all of your posts I found it pretty easily with my rented motorbike. It is indeed quite far from central market. About 1 km as posted as in one of the overview links. Straight west. I asked the way 1 block to early. A guy signed ne the way. When I arrived I stayed on my bike and one guy with a green hotel paris tshirt came to me. I showed I wanted to go up 2 floors. He blocked the way to parking and kept saying a khmer word which I now understand to be another hotel. He went inside and by the time another helpfull Cambodian guy came to me he came back with a small card: which was an adress card of hotel paris with another hotel indicated on the backside road map.

Hotel Mean Haur located at the corner of 122 and 221. Which is the 2nd street rigth if you just continue straight west from paris. At paris they indicated the massage was over there and he seemed to make clear no action could be found in paris. I went at 15:30 in the afternoon. Perhaps it was to early or they have closed their activities. I noticed a lot of bikes. Perhaps it was full or they changed to normal hotel style. I don't know.

So at Mean Haur I could park in the back after I asked massage and showed it on my arm. The same whay the green shirt guy had done to me. I asked the parking guy left or right as the building is quite big. I went to the lobby. 2 ladys said 1st floor without lookibg at me. When I get up thecstairs I see a big room on the left with perhaps 30 girls. Many of them curuously peaking at me. The little desk on the left doesn't look up but she says and points. Ladys in room go choose. Alright finally.

I do a fast glimpse and gives them a smile. Most of them seem quite young. Around 20- 26. Nr 4 on the first row was quite smart by smiling from the start and lookingvat me. I was thibking of going for a shy one as I wanted local. The seened to have different colours if numbers and clothes but no idea what it meant. As it was already a few days ago I decuded to play on nr4. Who happily stood up and came with me. She got a ticket and a key. We wenr 2 floors uo to a room. We go in but I noticed thecroom had a transparant window in the door. When I locked it she saw you looked confused. As she could speak a little work related english she looked at me and asjed " you want sek?" After 3 times I realised she asked FS. I said yes please." K We go other room. Room is 6$. That ok. I said 1 time pay room." no 2 times". As the bill went up I asked how much she would like for FS. She saud 50. I said 20 and if good tip. We go up to the highest floor 12. It took her a while to get a new key. U wasnt sure if it was a mandatory fine or just a misunderstanding in intentions so after the 20$ sushi (never ate so much. Love the food in pp) from this afternoon I didn't mind to mmuch. We go up. In elevator she already hits my snall braibs with her nicely formed ass and she seemed happy it worked. We go in roon. She kisses me and we go shower. I get a 25 min gentle and good BJ. Then she asked condom? I start on top. She gets more and mire wet when I rouch her nice nipples. When I touch her ears she moans and want to go on top. Fine by me or I would v come soon. A lot of kissing and afwr 50 mins all is done and she cuttles in my neck and pu her warm body against me and she seems to want to let me sleep a bit. After 5 mins of relaxing in hugging sleeping position we kiss and she looks at me and sits up she notice I'm not ready fore more so she goes toilet. I go in and go shower. Some kiaaes again and we go out.

Everythung from the start in a non pressure we have all the tine kind if way. I pay the 2 rooms as earlier agreed. And give her 20 + 10 as she was a good looker. Very GFE. Alright probably to much including the 2nd room. Perhaps she keeps that although earlier she piinted iyt that ut was me who needed to getbit. She went.

So 6 +6 +20+10= 42. I guess you could do 26. Dunno. Also bo massage as we changed room; didn't realky want or ask for it. Rooms were oke. Got her numbwr and wgen I ask for outhouse service. No problem. Also lt. Would give her a 8/10 for the looks or a big 7 abd another 8 for the GFE. So all inall happy. Only 2nd room stuff was weird. I'm not sure if I picked Cambodian or perhaps vietnam. She was no so dark. She said Cambodia. Television whas kmer music. Didn't matter to me.

Going movie and ll check out matini or naga after

Medanboy

09-12-13, 20:52

Just a small update for fellow newbies like me.

As I had to many whisky's yesterday I opted for an inhouse massage. I enjoy the company and you never know. Took 2 hours. For this one it seemed oke I threw the towel away after a while as it made her massage more easily. In the end I pleased her more then she me. She obly charged one hour. Khmer girls not seem that easy as indo ones. I learned the word for can not but as usual it means go ahead till a certain point.

At 7pm to martini's I arrived the same time as the first girl. Bought her a drink and tipped the cashier. Put myself at the pooltable between the bar and the ladysroom. Going early has it advantages. After one game a short talk and said her she was not my type (should really look up that word in khmer). She was happy with the drink and smiled all evening politely to me. Did the same for a duo. Said them after a while I only like them a little. The candidates kept coming. Seems to be low season and I seem to have the advantage I'm quite young (no offense) and decent looking. Other brrang were left alone, some even when they offered a drink. Seems the girls can be quite picky. Good for me. Pooltable whole evening for me and good company. All in all costed me 15$ for 3 hours fun. Some rubbing and teasing. After 20:30 the girls asked directly: where you live and lets go. They seem to operate in groups. 15 candidates. Never asking for a drink themselve. No pressure. I like the place. I wanted to go for a 10 or9. None there. I spend some more time with the duo. Let it pass although now I could settle for less. Ll check it out tomorrow again.

Went 1 hour to dalin dalin. Tuk tuk on standby for an hour. I like the ladies there more. More style and recognized a lot of faces from the day before. But they don't seem to come to you if you take a table. I'm not a dancer by myself. Seems other guys make the contact like that or they come in with them already. Could have made contact with a nice 3th weel friend at the table next to me but I was just going.

Tomorrow action day.

Not much info I give but fellow newbies can get an idea of what to expect.

Any of the usuals can give me some advice for dalin dalin?

Sausage King

09-13-13, 07:21

Hello mongers,

Heading to PP soon. I have RTFF (well some of it. I'm on a 512kb internet connection and there are only so many hours in the day). Which is the best place to go for girls aged 18. 20? And ideally who do anal? I don't mind if it is a brothel or a hostess bar, or a place to pick up freelancers. Is there a specialist anal bar anywhere? And can any residents help with language? I know yum yum and boom boom or whatever it is but how about more specific phrases like 'Can I lick your pussy (yeah I know other guys have been there don't care) ' 'Can I finger you' 'Can I kiss you' and the most important of all 'Will you suck my dick without a condom', 'Can I fuck you in all positions, ' and 'can I fuck your ass. ' I hate it it when I get a chick who sucks your dick with a condom on for thirty seconds then lies on her back, squealing 'finished? ' every minute and won't take it in any other position. I will of course be a gent in the run up to such conversations. I have read some very good advice from Lancelot's awesome posts about maybe buying a few drinks for a few different girls, be charming etc. And I'm a reasonably young tall athletic guy with full head of hair which helps I guess. But after such flirting I want to be sure I'm not taking back a boring fuck and I'll pay a bit more for the right fuck! Oh, and how much is a reasonable amount to pay for such a good fuck, anal included? Any help much appreciated and I'll let you guys know the score when I return. Can't wait yum yum boom boom

Rick Rock

09-13-13, 07:28

Any of the usuals can give me some advice for dalin dalin?Working girls are often found standing at the bar. If you stand there as a single male you should be approached. May want to politely approach them if that doesn't happen, but be aware, plenty of "regular" girls go there. I wouldn't bother with girls at a table unless they are all girls. Girls sitting with guys already would be obviously off limits.

Expect to pay a premium over what you'd find almost anywhere else in the city.

You can also find girls inside the casino proper.

Medanboy

09-13-13, 11:53

Working girls are often found standing at the bar. If you stand there as a single male you should be approached. May want to politely approach them if that doesn't happen, but be aware, plenty of "regular" girls go there. I wouldn't bother with girls at a table unless they are all girls. Girls sitting with guys already would be obviously off limits.

Expect to pay a premium over what you'd find almost anywhere else in the city.

You can also find girls inside the casino proper.Thanks for the info. Will try that.

After my morning swim I took inroom massage. They seem to send me worse and worse in looks. Wouldn't have touched her; like never. Though very friendly and excellent oil massage.

I went to Mean Haur as no acces to hotel paris again. I noticed in their 2nd part building some pooltables.

And 20 girls sitting at couches. No customers. Perhaps better to play and pick their as when I went to first floor abd picked the girl I liked they sent me to a "massage" transparant room again. Didn't go in and " boom boom" seems the universal word. Ll say that one at the counter next time. I asked "private" room; but they don't look up and are busy with some papers. Alright I only pay one room this time. No english. I show I want to start with a short massage. Alrigt. After 25 mins finished. She sit next to me. I ask boom boom. She say 50. I look really surprised. Perhaps she thoughtbi would take the offer ss I asked forvthe boom boom room. I said no. 20. No. 25. No. Alright I say massage as I don't want to ruin the marketprice. She said lets go. I pointed out a massage takes longer then 30 mins. She continued 10 mins. Go? I say ok. She had skilled hands so was still oke. When I take my clothes no more offers. 3:30 in the afternoon. 30 other girls. I decided to stick to my bargainig price and go home as it is still early. She would have got 40 or 35 after all if she went for it and did a good job. Anyways up to her. Left. 6$ for room. 6$ massage. Gave her 2$ extra (she not seem to expect it) as I might go back tomorrow. And she noticed I had way much more in my pocket. Not sure for who the 6 $ massage was ment. A tip already or not. No other customers around.

So happy I didn't spoil the market way to much and had a good massage. Not sure where the negotiatons stopped. Perhaps the thougt I would give in.

Going to go to a " beer garden" with one of the hotel workers. I haven't paid my hotel bill yet so I guess its safe.

Medanboy

09-13-13, 23:31

Well beer garden seems to be a local alias of barbecue garden. I went to a barbecue garden next (south) to v20 on natonial assembly street. It the street at the westide of naga complex. I can't recall it exact name but it is an open building with a big roof which moves when it rains so you stay dry. The girls working their have student uniforms in red (red shirt and skirt). There is also one promogirl in black who tries to sell guiness and drinks with you at the table. About 30 tables. I went there to eat with locals. Around 19:00 its full with locals; couples, drinking buddies and families. Enjoyable music on the background. Many people who work together come here for a good barbecue. You get a barbecue plate on which you can cook your meat; fish, vegetables. Abc cans enough. And if you drink to slow your glass doesn't get empty as the girls put ice in it so it stays cold. Some kids sell small stuff. No pressure.

After some of my company left the drinking guys stayed behind. I noticed some nice waitresses. About 10% the typical special eyeextensions. If I could speak khmer this seems a good place to get some normal gf. Said a few times hello in khmer. They thinking I talk to my buddies as my accent is bad. One waitress looks and smiles and say I look good. My new khmer buddies were so kind to translate. Just the guy who wanted to use my phone went silent (the others disapproved and didn't want to give their phone either) No KTV as he wanted after the bbc. After a short conversation with the girl she came regurarely sitting next to me and hit / took my gentle parts a few times to hard under the table. I realized she was into it for the money. She wanted to hangout. Didn't matter where. Preferred a club. I was tired and showed her my place which was only 3 streets away. She didn't seem to get it. Sms seemed also to complicated for her. I took off at 22:00, almost everyone left the place except the personel. They stay open till midnight. I dobt know if many waitresses are up for it or only this one. Best time to pass by is 22:00.

As promised I let the reception call her at midnight if I still was awake. She arrived around 01:20. Changing clorhes. Make up; shower; parfum and a mototaxi who like to overcharge at night while driving blocks. Many people in pp don't seem tobknow streetnames or numbers, even when they work there.

Had a 2 hour very GFE. She wanted to let me come several times. Quite rough at start in the style of handling me and almost forcing to handle her in the way she wanted. She seemed to enjoy. She had nice small breasts nicely in proportion; sometimes I couldn't breath because of the way she wanted me to handle them. Everytime I did something in a rough way (kissing / biting / holding) she liked it and I got it back twice as good in return. I did had to learn her to be more gentle with me which never happened before. Also didn't knew that she licking and kissing my armpits woud be so good. Never had a girl do that before. I wonder if most khmer girls behave in that way. Although my older friend from a few days ago was the opposite. Short time I eat her pussy which I normally never do especially with a small Bush; what can I say she was very gf convincing. Although She put some japanese movies on to make and keep me hard. 3th time she watched some thai khmer dubbed dramashow on her phone for a while which strangely didn't bother me.

She said she was20 years old. My khmer buddies for the evening thought 22 which I believe as she looked 19 to me and I'm always 3 or 4 years off in guessing. No I'd or family card which normally is required for our reception. They take a key or phone as it seems to exist no all khmer take the effort to get an I'd. Got a safe and reception confirmed she was minimum 20 and called me if she could leave or not. Would rate her a n8/10 for the looks, a 10 for the effort and a 9 for GFE.

When my online khmer dictionary showed go home or stay home here she said go home. Not sure if she understood that she had the choice. Gave her 40$. Had planned 30 for ST or 45LT.

So with all the consumption of abc, the midnight close time I think there are some possibilities at this eating / drinking place. Khmer language required unless your body language is excellent.

CaliPro

09-14-13, 13:49

Medanboy,

Have you been to Pontoon or Heart of Darkness to pickup? How about the dating websites? (DateinAsia and AsianDating)

How old are you mate? I am going to Phnom Penh soon.

Medanboy

09-16-13, 09:31

Medanboy,

Have you been to Pontoon or Heart of Darkness to pickup? How about the dating websites? (DateinAsia and AsianDating)

How old are you mate? I am going to Phnom Penh soon.I got out to ho chi min. I like dating websites but didn't have time to warmup and prepare so can't tell. The clubs I mentionned is for next time.

I'm not sure but perhaps it could be wise to check the local news before going to phnom pehn. I got out when the demonstrations started. As I hear people are getting more and more angry with their government. Thats why almost nobody gets control from the police (if you rent a bike / car / or whatever you do). Perhsps all quite and still safe now. I don't know.

Zeppelin029

09-16-13, 11:51

Hey folks,

Can anyone shed light on safety on the ground given the demonstrations etc?

Thinking of adding PP to my itinerary for my upcoming trip but not wanting to get stuck in the country.

AskeAske

09-16-13, 16:35

Hey folks, anyone can shed light on safety on the ground given the demonstrations etc?

Thinking of adding PP to my itinerary for my upcoming trip but not wanting to get stuck in the country.A good question. I come to Phnom Penh Monday. Normally, PP a very safe place. Now what? Are the bars open? Can you get around as usual. Can some of the resident expats give us information?

AussieGuy100

09-17-13, 19:37

A good question. I come to Phnom Penh Monday. Normally, PP a very safe place. Now what? Are the bars open? Can you get around as usual. Can some of the resident expats give us information?It's all fine. The main tourist areas including streets 104, 136, etc are all calm and the bars are open.

Plenty of police and military police around to maintain security.

All airports and border crossings open.

Wendella

09-22-13, 04:30

Well beer garden seems to be a local alias of barbecue garden.Yet another great report, thanks. Actually, I've heard the name "beer garden" used in Phnom Penh to refer to a very different type of place. The one I went to was a building near the river, maybe street 130, not sure, maybe 3 blocks from the river. Ground floor looked empty but for a few tables, and lighting a bit dark but still could see. But customers go through the back and head upstairs, and up one or 2 flights there is a big room with sofas going around the walls, and at one end is a fishbowl with girls inside. Khmer guys hang out in small groups on sofas here and there. Occasionally a girl was selected from the fishbowl and headed off to a private room with a customer. This was a few years ago, but the impression I got from the forums then was that this was a pretty typical setup, and they were called "beer gardens" by whoever was talking about them. Obviously what you are describing here is a very different type of place. So I'd be curious to hear from long timers there if the type of place I was taken to is what people there call "beer garden", or if both of our types of places are both called beer garden. And also if the type of place I went to still exists there, since this was a few years ago that I went to that place, I think around 2008.

Funny, in another thread I criticized some replies to one of your posts for seizing on one unimportant detail and then going on and on about it. But here's me doing pretty much exactly that. ANyway, this is no criticism, more just curious about the beer gardens scene that I once stumbled into. That place I went to was supposedly one of many in the city, it was a common type of venue, and all of them pretty much like that, or so I read. I saw the one I was in, and also saw many other places around town that looked the same on the ground floor, so I assumed they were all the same.

In case anyone is curious about these places, there were reasons I didn't ever go to another one. One, though they were cheap (I think it was $10 or so) , they also had a reputation for being dangerous in terms of likelihood of getting into trouble with the Khmer customers who would probably be armed, and also that arguments / fights often broke out in those places. Another was that the girls were all in that 4 to 6 range, and seemed totally unenthusiastic about their jobs, so just nothing there to get too excited about.

Hoping some long time expats there familiar with these types of places can tell us what the score is. Are they still common in PP?

Mackin

09-22-13, 08:14

After a week in Bangkok and a few days in HCM city I boarded the bus to PP. Seven hours later I arrived at PP. Other than the 7 hours it wasn't a bad trip. After a clean up and rest headed out to see what is going on in the area around the river. Found some places along the river near the palace that had beer for fifty cents. It was happy hour but not sure this is not regular price. Walking back toward street 136 on the river front I had 2 ladies who wanted to know where I was going. I had a place in mind so I politely declined.

Walked around and found La Cyree. Went in only one customer. All of sudden there were 6 o7 girls surrounding me I picked one to talk to called sophie. The girls are a little aggressive. I guess this could be because of a lack of customers right now. The streets are showing low season and the bars seem empty. Plenty of girls to go around for everybody. After talking with sophie I picked a second one to keep the first one company. Shortly headed across the street things got going. I had been promised a full aray of things to do. Start with BJ and DATY the other. Switch and then on to lady show. Sophie was horny and the other says she came shortly. You could see the end results. The other girl help with the doggie while sophie rubbed herself and kept saying I am horney. Soon did the switch and doggie for sophie while the other played with the balls. Then back to the BJ while fingering the 2nd girl. No one was a cim so got then together and gave them a white washing. Very happy with the results we clean up and headed out for late dinner. Would repeat with one or both. Sorry can't remember the other ones name. Just a taller girl. I thought both were very decent looking.

Before leaving for our happy time there were more girls appearing. My guess is maybe 15 to working so pickings are good.

Again, every bar I looked in had only a few if any customer. Granted I didn't stop at a lot of them and only looked inside quickly.

Lets see what tonight brings as head out for another location in Thailand tomorrow.

Betong

09-22-13, 17:17

The girls are a little aggressive. I guess this could be because of a lack of customers right now.Nah, it's pretty much always like that. Unless you arrive immediately after another group of guys, you'll get the whole scrum of girls. Easiest is just to buy one of them a drink, at which point the others will immediately fade into the background. Then you can take your time, look around, and decide on your next move.

My feeling about LCC these days is that you're very unlikely to get anything at all special, but it's always adequate. And I like the owner, though he's a quiet guy and it can take a while to get to know him.

LifeIsABeach

09-23-13, 03:33

The streets are showing low season and the bars seem empty.The official low season is till end of October. I went in October last year and had a wonderful time. There were enough girls to go around.

Shadow6491

09-23-13, 03:56

My landlord is a distributor of beer. He has moved from distributing to the beer gardens to large social events. However he has taken me to many beer gardens and shown me the ropes. He eats at them every night, he gets two free bottles of beer. The cost of having the girls coming and sit and eat with you is the princely sum of 1$ yes that whats the locals pay. Most of the girls are available to go home with customers. They know that is part of the deal. My landlord has told me that many of his colleges and even one of the very big bosses have died of AIDS from taking home these girls. Of course they are pushing the odds as they are probably doing a girl bareback several times a day.

I have been to these place both in PP with friends just for the food and with my wife just for the food. I have also been with friend to some in the provinces and it was harder to get girls to sit with us as they were just scared of barangs others have been great and gone back to the hotel with us. You do need a reasonable amount of the language or at least enough to get a few details and make a joke or something.

SmallBird

09-28-13, 15:10

AzhaLover

09-28-13, 21:46

[This was a few years ago, but the impression I got from the forums then was that this was a pretty typical setup, and they were called "beer gardens" by whoever was talking about them. Obviously what you are describing here is a very different type of place. So I'd be curious to hear from long timers there if the type of place I was taken to is what people there call "beer garden", or if both of our types of places are both called beer garden. And also if the type of place I went to still exists there, since this was a few years ago that I went to that place, I think around 2008.

Hoping some long time expats there familiar with these types of places can tell us what the score is. Are they still common in PP?[/QUOTE]Wendella."beer garden" is as described by Shadow6491. A restaurant, sometimes outdoors. Girls available to sit with guests, for a tip of $1. $3, and you buy drinks and food for the girl. Tips depend on standard of restaurant (they vary from very upmarket to average neighbourhood place) , how long you are there, and of course individual choice. Girls never ask for tip; guys just pay and girls accept. These places are all around town but I think not in the tourist areas of riverside and St 51 (I rarely go to the tourist areas so do not know about those areas specifically.)

Beer gardens have been around for years. Note that these places are not specifically set up for mongering as such. They are more a cross between a dating service and a mongering service. They are real restaurants with the usual range of customers. Many tables will not have girls sit with them. The girls are pretty discreet. Customer just asks the manager or sometimes a mamasan-type-of-host if girls are available and a few will be sent to the table. You pick who you want to sit with you. Some girls will agree to take away; others prefer to get to know a customer for several times before take away; other girls not available for take away. Depends a lot on whether they like you. Like I said, sort of a dating service and mongering service rolled into one. Cost for take away ranges from $20. $50, depends on the girls, the standard of place, and the type of clientele.

Mostly these places are not really for the short-term barang or even Asian tourists, although these types are welcome if they know the social customs and can speak Khmai. Some girls might speak a little English, many do not. I have had a lot of fun in these places. Its great to have lady company company for dinner if I want it. Some places are pretty upmarket and even offer a floor show of sorts. Singing, dancing and occasionally some of the girls might participate. In some places the waitresses might be available for take-away. I repeat that customers must know social customs and speak Khmai to get anywhere in most of these places. Some of the poor manners and attitudes I have read on this board would not be tolerated in these restaurants / beer gardens.

For your information, these days the service level on offer in many Khmai places has hugely improved. In some places that do not have girls on site for customers, if you inform the manager that you would like a girl to sit with you for dinner, one will be brought in for you. This girl may or (more likely may not) be available for take-away. This is part of the Khmai culture where many men having girls friends / mistresses besides a wife and family.

Your previous experience was with a fish bowl. Fish bowls are not so common these days. A couple have been identified in tourist areas. But even in other parts of the city, fish bowls are now not so common. The higher authorities would prefer PP to shed its rather crude sexpat scene. But they are Ok with more discreet operations such as beer gardens.

Hope this explanation answers your questions.

Wendella

09-29-13, 04:28

My landlord is a distributor of beer. He has moved from distributing to the beer gardens to large social events. However he has taken me to many beer gardens and shown me the ropes.So this sounds very different from the "beer garden" I was shown. That kind of place I described a few posts ago, is that type common these days in PP?

Medanboy

09-29-13, 11:07

[This was a few years ago, but the impression I got from the forums then was that this was a pretty typical setup, and they were called "beer gardens" by whoever was talking about them. Obviously what you are describing here is a very different type of place. So I'd be curious to hear from long timers there if the type of place I was taken to is what people there call "beer garden", or if both of our types of places are both called beer garden. And also if the type of place I went to still exists there, since this was a few years ago that I went to that place, I think around 2008.

Hoping some long time expats there familiar with these types of places can tell us what the score is. Are they still common in PP?Wendella."beer garden" is as described by Shadow6491. A restaurant, sometimes outdoors. Girls available to sit with guests, for a tip of $1. $3, and you buy drinks and food for the girl. Tips depend on standard of restaurant (they vary from very upmarket to average neighbourhood place) , how long you are there, and of course individual choice. Girls never ask for tip; guys just pay and girls accept. These places are all around town but I think not in the tourist areas of riverside and St 51 (I rarely go to the tourist areas so do not know about those areas specifically.)

Beer gardens have been around for years. Note that these places are not specifically set up for mongering as such. They are more a cross between a dating service and a mongering service. They are real restaurants with the usual range of customers. Many tables will not have girls sit with them. The girls are pretty discreet. Customer just asks the manager or sometimes a mamasan-type-of-host if girls are available and a few will be sent to the table. You pick who you want to sit with you. Some girls will agree to take away; others prefer to get to know a customer for several times before take away; other girls not available for take away. Depends a lot on whether they like you. Like I said, sort of a dating service and mongering service rolled into one. Cost for take away ranges from $20. $50, depends on the girls, the standard of place, and the type of clientele.

Mostly these places are not really for the short-term barang or even Asian tourists, although these types are welcome if they know the social customs and can speak Khmai. Some girls might speak a little English, many do not. I have had a lot of fun in these places. Its great to have lady company company for dinner if I want it. Some places are pretty upmarket and even offer a floor show of sorts. Singing, dancing and occasionally some of the girls might participate. In some places the waitresses might be available for take-away. I repeat that customers must know social customs and speak Khmai to get anywhere in most of these places. Some of the poor manners and attitudes I have read on this board would not be tolerated in these restaurants / beer gardens.

For your information, these days the service level on offer in many Khmai places has hugely improved. In some places that do not have girls on site for customers, if you inform the manager that you would like a girl to sit with you for dinner, one will be brought in for you. This girl may or (more likely may not) be available for take-away. This is part of the Khmai culture where many men having girls friends / mistresses besides a wife and family.

Your previous experience was with a fish bowl. Fish bowls are not so common these days. A couple have been identified in tourist areas. But even in other parts of the city, fish bowls are now not so common. The higher authorities would prefer PP to shed its rather crude sexpat scene. But they are Ok with more discreet operations such as beer gardens.

Hope this explanation answers your questions.[/QUOTE]

Seems like the place I ended up; thanks for the explanation. Without Khmer buddies I would have been totally lost, even for just ordering food. As you mentionned it looks like a family place hangout restaurant. After 22:00 it seems to get empty so guess that would be the time for clueless and other clueless like me to give it a shot.

Akuji

09-29-13, 14:34

Shadow6491

09-30-13, 07:29

Very well explained Medanboy. I am very lazy when it comes to writing out reports. Happy to answer questions and give directions ect but not at explanations. There is a beer garden (well several) near my house that my wife and I go to some nights to eat, other times I have been and eaten with a hostess (not smart but at least I didn't ST her). Some of the beer garden / restaurants may even have a line up of girls sitting on plastic chairs out the front you just pick who you would like to eat with you. Mostly thier is more on offer but it is up to the girl.

You are also correct their are still a few with the stage and music thing where some if not all the girls have to do their part. There used to be a few of these on 63 st but I think they closed due to too much noise. I may just not take any notice any more either.

It is strange how your levels for things change over time what was once shocking is just now a day to day reality.

AussieGuy100

10-02-13, 02:54

Good descriptions of the various types of beer gardens. One point which hasn't been mentioned (unless I missed it) is that many of the beer gardens have attractive female beer waitresses, each trying to persuade you to buy their brand of beer. Angkor, Anchor, Guinness etc.

They receive a commission from their beer companies for each beer they sell you. A lot of them are also available for take out. Usually you buy one or two beers from them, chat to them a bit and negotiate a ST or LT price.

Once when I visited a large beer garden I really liked one of the Guinness sales girls, so I had to drink Guinness (which I dislike!) so that I could chat to her and arrange a ST.

GooberMonger

10-02-13, 17:55

New documentary out about child molesters in Phnom Penh.

Quite sickening to hear about this along the riverside. Do locals know if it really is still quite common? Or is this documenaty just another one of those NGOs trying to sensationalise things?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/exposed-devious-brit-pervs-who-2317735I hate reading this about Cambodia it gives the country a bad name, which it doesn't deserve. The USA has a 100 plus times worse problem than Cambodia has ever had, I have seen the government of Cambodia impose some of the strictest laws in the world to protect children.

You put a hand on a child in Cambodia it's an automatic 25 years, no BS about well I was molested as a child and Oh, well then we understand and we'll put you in a rehab program and you'll be out of jail in 3 years.

Cambodia has Hotlines set up and child safe program in most hotels. This wanker that was taking these pics I want to know why he didn't call the UNICEF and World Vision's child protection Hotline. The AHTJP Unit would have been there in minutes.

Cambodia has SASHA now too that have been closing down orphanages, the last one they closed down was because of poor sanitation and some staff had spanked some of the kids for bad behavior, a little ironic with families living and working in garbage dumps. Also the orphanage didn't have the correct documentation on a few of the children, which was an oversight because they had no information on the kids to make the correct paper work.

In closing I would just like to say bringing up things that use to happen over a decade ago about a country that counts heavily on tourism is not helping the country. It's also not deserved because the country has gone to many lengths to protect child and reached out to many other countries including my own in using each others help to combat the problem.

That by the way was never a problem until 10,000 UNTAC troops entred the country and created the problem to begin with. Then the UN pulled out and starting saying what a terrible country Cambodia was because of all the sex workers there, that were originally trafficked into the country from Vietnam to keep the UNTAC troops happy.

I think that covers it, so to summarize if you are a peadophile, and come to Cambodia looking to satisfy your sick needs, your not only sick, but pretty stupid too. You would be smart to put Cambodia as the last place on earth that you would want to visit.

GM

Oorvampu

10-03-13, 06:53

Cambodia has Hotlines set up and child safe program in most hotels. This wanker that was taking these pics I want to know why he didn't call the UNICEF and World Vision's child protection Hotline. The AHTJP Unit would have been there in minutes.

Cambodia has SASHA now too that have been closing down orphanages, the last one they closed down was because of poor sanitation and some staff had spanked some of the kids for bad behavior, a little ironic with families living and working in garbage dumps. Also the orphanage didn't have the correct documentation on a few of the children, which was an over site because they had no information on the kids to make the correct paper work.

GMI agree totally with you. Instead of sensationalizing the guy could have called the authorities. And such a bad name given to a country which has nothing but tourism to sustain themselves is really bad journalism. Any one who read the history books will recollect the machinations the same nations who portray themselves as saviours indulged in, be it in the 1970s or 1980s. This country is so fertile and people so hard working, and they are all recovering from the wrong doings for decades by vested interests. And all they need is support and not bad publicity.

I am not sure if it is common atleast I have not seen it public in the last week stay in Phnom Pen and Siem Reap. Yes, tuk-tuk drivers approach you all the time offering services but none related to children. Hotels I stayed religiously took the ids of any joiner. If one goes out looking for dirt, they will find one. But to generalize that the entire country is filled with such crimes is unfortunate and definitely not investigative journalism.

There was another such documentary published BBC by a bimbo called Stacey. I wish the same Stacey girl does an investigative journalism on how the west decided to carpet bomb hapless Cambodians just because they decided to stay neutral in cold war times. Or how they installed surrogate government causing civil war and the carnage that ensued instead of picking up hapless individuals and make it look like the entire Cambodia is full of crime.

Hatguy

10-04-13, 06:56

Stacey is a weepy bimbo know nothing. Don't bother watching it.

AskeAske

10-04-13, 14:23

Was out dancing, drinking. Went back to hotel with nice "semi-pro". LT 20 dollar.

AzhaLover

10-05-13, 15:51

So this sounds very different from the "beer garden" I was shown. That kind of place I described a few posts ago, is that type common these days in PP?No. Fish bowls not so common. For tourists, see report a few posts back on Mean Haur Hotel, which now hosts the operation that used to be in Paris Hotel. Another place is Soul, mentioned many posts ago, near the intersection of Norodom and Mao Tse Tung. This serves mostly Asian clientele.

GooberMonger

10-05-13, 20:39

No. Fish bowls not so common. For tourists, see report a few posts back on Mean Haur Hotel, which now hosts the operation that used to be in Paris Hotel. Another place is Soul, mentioned many posts ago, near the intersection of Norodom and Mao Tse Tung. This serves mostly Asian clientele.Was there a couple nights ago, fish bowel had about 20 girls a few cuties. Not a great selection, I think because all the girls went to the countryside for Pchum Ban Festival. Girl wanted big money $100 I broke out in laughter, massage $6 / hour, BBBJ and I'd give her a 6 on performance and an 8 for effort. $40 / hour.

My friend had a couple girls and didn't bust a nut after an hour and the girls got dressed after an hour. They said they were too sore, he boom boom too long, give me a break, the girls will take $30, but working on holidays and all I was happy with my girl. My friend I told him lower the price if two girls can't get you off in an hour then they're not worth much.

Had a big fight with them, two VN girls and no one could speak English, good thing I know K'mai I reamed them out and told my friend give them $20 each, there not even worth that, but just to get out of the place.

Now the reason given to me is the girls don't like to go more than an hour because, they're not suppose to be giving extra services and there were signs up in K'mai saying the girl's don't do extras.

I give the place a big zero, it use to be pretty good. Oh well there loss. I won't be back. I don't like being on the clock and I speak for my friend too. Your not done until I'm finished and if you thing your going to get another $30 for the next hour you really are wrong. A; so if you do go you'll need someone that can speak K'mai, but the people that speak English might have been off?

Would have been better off grabbing a FL off the street for $20-$30 LT.

GM

AzhaLover

10-06-13, 06:47

Was there a couple nights ago, fish bowel had about 20 girls a few cuties. Not a great selection, I think because all the girls went to the countryside for Pchum Ban Festival. Girl wanted big money $100 I broke out in laughter, massage $6 / hour, BBBJ and I'd give her a 6 on performance and an 8 for effort. $40 / hour.

My friend had a couple girls and didn't bust a nut after an hour and the girls got dressed after an hour. They said they were too sore, he boom boom too long, give me a break, the girls will take $30, but working on holidays and all I was happy with my girl. My friend I told him lower the price if two girls can't get you off in an hour then they're not worth much.

Had a big fight with them, two VN girls and no one could speak English, good thing I know K'mai I reamed them out and told my friend give them $20 each, there not even worth that, but just to get out of the place.

Now the reason given to me is the girls don't like to go more than an hour because, they're not suppose to be giving extra services and there were signs up in K'mai saying the girl's don't do extras.

I give the place a big zero, it use to be pretty good. Oh well there loss. I won't be back. I don't like being on the clock and I speak for my friend too. Your not done until I'm finished and if you thing your going to get another $30 for the next hour you really are wrong. A; so if you do go you'll need someone that can speak K'mai, but the people that speak English might have been off?

Would have been better off grabbing a FL off the street for $20-$30 LT.

GMHi GM,

I had a similar experience there a couple months ago. No more.

I have the most luck these days at local beer gardens and some semi-private restaurants / clubs. But as you know, these are not for tourists or those without Khmai language or Khmai friends to accompany.

I have yet to try the OK clubs you mentioned earlier out near the airport. I live too far in the other direction for an easy strike there. But I'll give them a go sometime.

Have you tried any of the places across the Japanese bridge?

I still seek that elusive massage place where the lady first does a *real* massage and then moves on to other pleasures. The massage places in the tourist areas are a rip, and I do not go to the tourist areas much anyways. Will post if I find something worth while.

Medanboy

10-06-13, 22:51

Sounds a bit like my meanhur experience. Well the 2nd time atleast; asking ridiculous price and paying for a 2nd room and skipping the massage. I guess best way would be to first just take the massage in a non-private room (transparent) window. And once it is almost over negotiate for FS and move to the private rooms upstairs. Its how I would do it next time when I am in pp again. Guess it would be 6+6 fo the rist massage hour and then 6 + whatever you negotiate for the 2nd hour. Seems like that would easy go to 40$ or higher. Can't imagine that is how it us supposed to work. .

Anyone tryed the mean hur hotel by now? Would be happy if someone with khmer language could try it out and explain how it al is supposed to work. Also their pooltable area and how that is supposed to work interests me. Thanks for any volunteers who would be willing to sacrifice themselves.

Card Boy

10-07-13, 22:16

I will be in Town the First time and looking for nice GFE. Any recommendations where to Focus on?

GooberMonger

10-08-13, 19:23

Hi GM,

I had a similar experience there a couple months ago. No more.

I have the most luck these days at local beer gardens and some semi-private restaurants / clubs. But as you know, these are not for tourists or those without Khmai language or Khmai friends to accompany.

I have yet to try the OK clubs you mentioned earlier out near the airport. I live too far in the other direction for an easy strike there. But I'll give them a go sometime.

Have you tried any of the places across the Japanese bridge?

I still seek that elusive massage place where the lady first does a *real* massage and then moves on to other pleasures. The massage places in the tourist areas are a rip, and I do not go to the tourist areas much anyways. Will post if I find something worth while.I haven't tried out anything over the Japan Bridge, but Prinz knows that area.

If you come over to St. 2004 along side of the Airport, just get yourself a room in a guesthouse, lots of them over here and most are $15 / night with A / C and there's 9 Dragons on Northbridge St I think it's $25, nice gym, pool and restaurant.

You have to be able to speak K'mai or have a guide, friend that does. If you want I can get you an escort that speaks English and K'mai or myself if I'm not busy.

GM

RookieReport

10-28-13, 05:13

Looking for "Gems" on limited time frame.

(note; these are only my opinions and observations that may or may not help other rookies)

Back in Phnom Penh for a short holiday and plan was to find a "Gem" meaning a 8-10 in looks and ready to pay above market for the quality.

Spent a few nights looking and all I can say is the "Gems" are few and far between. It is still pre high season and things may look better in a month and rosters can change from night to night. Also the few really attractive girls might get booked early in advance.

I quickly changed my hopes to just finding a "cute" 6-7 looks girl with a good attitude around 136 street. Here are a few notes. I seem only to have the energy for about 3 or 4 bars on any given evening so more to come.

Cavalry Bar.

Spotted couple cute ones out front, went inside for a look. As is often the case absolutely nothing looking good inside, quickly went back outside before I was rushed to buy a drink by some low end girls. Visited with the two outside cute girls for a little bit- they had nice attitude.

Lemon Lounge-

Looked promising from the outside, went inside and there were what looked like a bunch of cuties maybe even some gems. After I bought one very potential gem a drink and flirted a bit I found out why, the place had bunch "virgins". (no go with customers) on staff. I asked the pushy 40 year old that had been annoying me the whole time which girls went with customers, she just gave a vague point and says "some".

Sizzlers.

Tried this one three nights because it looked to have by far the best line up of girls- But unless you are Asian or a local expat. Good luck!

I got the invisible treatment all thee times

First time two small tables of Asians literally had every girl in place waiting on them.

Second try, thought I would go early and get a good look at the roster line up at least. Nope. Same treatment and

Then realized they have a floor manager type guy onsite when I called a girl over to say hi and he literally walked by and pointed at her to go over to the Asian table.

I have to say it's actually smart from business stand point of view.

Stopped in a third time, same deal. Gave floor manager a nod and headed to the next.

69 Bar.

This was probably the best, big line up of girls with quite a few cuties, pretty good attitude, fun lively atmosphere.

Pussy Cat.

Not much going on here.

Oasis and Best 136.

Fun friendly attitude, handful of cute girls on deck- but quite a few of low end girls too.

AussieGuy100

10-28-13, 23:38

Try Loco Bar on street 130, next to 136 Bar.

It's a fairly new bar with about 20 girls and some real cuties amongst them. All the girls are very friendly and don't hassle you for ladydrinks. The music isn't deafeningly loud and as a bonus, the place has the best toilets of any bar I've been in. There are a few virgin girls but plenty who will go out.

Also Golden Vine on street 108 is worth a visit. Usually a fun atmosphere there, and plenty of girls, almost all of whom go out. Some real lookers too.

Oasis on street 136 can be enjoyable. Lots of girls and often a real buzzy atmosphere.

Airforce on street 104 is a must visit, just to experience 40-50 girls in one bar. But check your bill carefully if you buy a lot of drinks, there seem to be frequent 'mistakes' in adding your bill up.

RookieReport

10-30-13, 07:06

Thought would give 104 street a look.

Vortex- immediate a very pretty girl was very friendly, I had the sense this time to ask if she barfines before

Buying a lady drink- (nope "she does not go with customer tonight")

Then.

Across the street to Smile Girl bar. Good number of average cuties and also one with an amazing body and not

Bad face- almost a solid 8. Bought her a few drinks, she seemed to have good attitude and goes with customer.

Decided to make a date for the next night for long time and she happily agrees. Return next night, buy her a few

Lady drinks in hopes it will help with a good attitude and we agree on 50$ longtime ("2 boom booms") and it's

Back to my room.

Immediately I'm feeling its going to be the starfish treatment, and no kissing except closed lip pecks- but her body is even better without clothes.

So after boom boom we watch a little TV ect. And then, she starts saying "me go home". This is after a little over2 hrs maybe 2.5 hrs mind you. After the third time she says me go home it's pretty annoying and a bummer so I say ok short time then, but I only have 25 in small bills. And then here is the thing- she says no, its 3 hrs you pay

50 long time. And she will not budge- starts making a big scene getting real loud ect. I was in disbelief, just over

2 hrs with one boom boom and she is demanding LT. Of course I just want to get her out of there but she not givingup on a full 50 LT. So I get fully dressed, put the 25 + 2 more singles I find on the bed and stand by the door. Nowat this point she is swearing ect. And she distinctly says "you get boxing"- but finally gets dressed, snatches moneyand storms out.

Here is the question, do I need to worry about her threat of sending guys for "boxing me" up? (I'm just a whimpy middle aged nerdy guy that can not fight) or is this just an empty threat? Not sure how it works here in

Phnom Penh with this type of situation.

Think I'll keep away from 104 street anyways.

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10-31-13, 18:34

Wendella

10-31-13, 18:37

Of course I just want to get her out of there but she not givingup on a full 50 LT. So I get fully dressed, put the 25 + 2 more singles I find on the bed and stand by the door. Nowat this point she is swearing ect. And she distinctly says "you get boxing"- but finally gets dressed, snatches moneyand storms out.Not sure I would call that an unnecessary hard return, it seems like it was fair treatment. Actually in a case like this, I guess even in Thailand these days, you probably need to first also get a quote for ST in addition to a quote for LT. And ask them what LT means. It's annoying when that happens. It's a scam and they know it. And so many try to pull it, knowing if they raise enough fuss they'll win. Usually. A guy I knew used to pre-empt it by saying if you leave at 1:00, it's this much, at 3:00 it's this much, at 6:00 this much and so on. (I never have, to me that degree of controlling things really puts a damper on the vibe, but maybe that's just me) But maybe a more effective angle would be to use a hotel where her making noise wouldn't be a big deal, and as she starts up you can just look at her with a confident smile on your face.

But, one thing, you assumed ST should be half. I'm not a local, and not sure what ST typically goes for in those places, but that might have been low. I tend to think it's normally higher than that for ST out of those particular bars. If it was me, I probably would have given her less than the agreed-on $50 but maybe not that low. $35 maybe.

Who here knows typical ST rates for guys like him / me, basically tourists to PP who don't know the current price structures.

Shadow6491

10-31-13, 23:58

I am in the lucky case in some ways as I normally only ever go for ST out of those bars. While a lot of tourists will pay more for a ST for an expat that is absolutely acceptable. It is still possible to get $15 ST even out of the hostess bars $20 is the more accepted and asked for price. $25 given that she is breaking the deal and causing a fuss she shouldn't be complaining too much. The boxing thing can happen if you are a complete A hole but it will all happen within the hour if it is going to occur. My advice if you do have problems like this would be to go and stay in another hotel for the night $10 well spent.

LifeIsABeach

11-01-13, 01:39

It happens lot when girl agrees for LT and starts making excuses. It happened to me twice and in each case told her politely that she is going earlier and will get less money. I have paid $15. 00 each time for the girl in these cases. When I agree on ST, it is usually $20. 00 agreed fee even though the girl may initially ask for $30. 00. I prefer ST as then I get to try more girls

Betong

11-07-13, 13:40

Sammon

11-07-13, 15:22

During negotiations, clearly mention if it is ST you will pay ST rate. Tell her if you both like it to be LT then it will be LT rate.

This way it will be easier for you without any drama.

Vast majority of bargirls like to agree on LT in the bar and want to leave after one shot unless she likes you. If she likes you it will be nice GFE and she will stay with you the whole next day too.

My experience,

1. I took a girl from one of 104 bars. She is very lovey-dovey in the bar with open mouth kissing and touching everywhere. She agreed to stay LT with me for $40. However after one shot (very satisfying experience) she feigned stomach hurts etc and wanted to leave. I told her she will get only $20. She agreed and left.

2. Next day I went to the same bar and there she was fit and healthy. Again same lovey-dovey thing. But I told her I am looking for some other girl who will stay LT. Although she said she is willing I did not trust her. I met another nice young girl there who agreed for LT for $50. In the room very GFE and nice body with pointy boobs. This one also tried to leave after one shot but backed off when I told her I will give only $20. She stayed the night and in the morning she wanted to leave without another shot. I told her she will get only $30. Reluctantly she agreed for sex and after that we both went for breakfast and she left.

3. Third day to the same bar. Both girls swarming over me and want to go with me. I told them since I was not happy with their actions I will take a new girl and see. By now I am friendly with another girl who kind of acts like a leader. She introduced another girl who she said is new to the bar. This girl turned out to be very nice. Multiple shots and she wanted to stay with me whole next day. We had lots of fun and walked around town etc. I treated her to some shopping and a nice tip.

4. Wanted to try heart of darkness. Went there late. I was really tired because of lots of action with the previous girl. Here I met a very pretty girl who was friendly. I needed company to take to siem reap. I offered her $40 per day for three days of staying together. She readily accepted and was very good in sex and company.

So it is not easy. But if you keep trying you will come across a nice likable one and ave good fun.

Medanboy

11-07-13, 22:33

I do speak language and it is $6 +$6 and cost of the girl. I you can bargain its $6 plus girl $30 and she pays the $6 for the massage. So all in all $36. I assume she get a discount on the massage fee or doesn't even pay it. The going rate shouldn't be more than $36. Make sure you take the full hour to bust a nut since they charge $12 for both rooms.Thanks! Appreciate the reply, ll see what I can negotiate next time.

Wendella

11-09-13, 11:09

I've never understood all these problems over short time vs long time. You buy a girl out, you take her back and you see what happens. If she wants to stick around after the first round and you want her around, then you let her stay. If either or both of you don't want that, then you let her go. It's not rocket science. And usually there's no way to know ahead of time which way it's going to go, so don't bother trying to decide or negotiate in advance.

(Or is the problem that newbies read forums like these and then come to Asia and want to have an exact program of events for an exact price? Because it just doesn't work that way.) LT is a standard offering in the scene, has been that way since way back when. It was a standard in Thailand and also in Cambodia at least since the 90s. If this is what the customer requests and what the girl agrees to in the bar, and that is what the customer wants / needs (for example maybe ST is dissatisfying to him, and if ST is all that is on offer then he would not have been interested in striking the deal) then it doesn't really make sense that the customer should be satisfied when LT turns into an unexpected ST. The problem isn't newbies or wrong-headed customers, it's girls who lie in order to close the deal. It's bait and switch in a way. A deal is a deal. I assume you think it's not ok for a customer to finish the deed and then refuse to pay, right? So why should it be ok for the girl to reneg on her part of the bargain? Lets' imagine it's not LT but maybe some specific niche that a guy is really into, let's say he loves S&M, so he goes from bar to bar asking each girl if they know what that is and they are into doing it. And then a girl says yes she's up for that, she knows what to do, and so on. Then they get back to the room and she refuses to do it. She knew in the bar when she struck the deal that she had no intention of doing what she promised. That's just dishonest. That's basically what they do. Of course it's not cool.

Betong

11-10-13, 03:06

And then a girl says yes she's up for that, she knows what to do, and so on. Then they get back to the room and she refuses to do it. She knew in the bar when she struck the deal that she had no intention of doing what she promised.That's sort of my point. You can negotiate all you want, set all the terms and conditions and prices, and then often, especially in Cambodia, the girl doesn't deliver. Yes it's bad and wrong and unprofessional of her, but that's the reality. Ultimately these encounters come down to how you get along with each other, and there's no point in trying to force that contractually.

That's why my approach is just to take a girl and see what happens. If it's good and she wants to stick around, fine, keep her for the night. If not, that's no problem either. You pay her for a short time and cut your losses. I think a lot of the problems here start because guys will offer a certain figure for all night. As soon as the girl hears that number, she thinks she's automatically earned that much, regardless of what actually happens. Personally I don't talk prices beforehand and I generally avoid girls who do. And no, I can't even remember the last time that I had any problem over payment.

Fcoolguy

11-11-13, 05:55

Guys,

I might travel to PP in Dec. Any girl friendly hotels that turn a blind eye to us taking a woman for the night?

Krishpad

11-11-13, 22:11

Guys,

I might travel to PP in Dec. Any girl friendly hotels that turn a blind eye to us taking a woman for the night?A lot. A simple google search away.

http://www.bargirlfriendlyhotels.com/phnom-penh-guest-friendly-hotels/

http://www.gfriendlyhotels-cambodia.com/

LifeIsABeach

11-12-13, 05:10

The problem isn't newbies or wrong-headed customers, it's girls who lie in order to close the deal. It's bait and switch in a way. A deal is a deal.This happens a lot, nothing to do with newbies etc. The girls eyes light up with the LT money but come up with excuses after the first shot. Another thing could be 'lost in translation'. The girl may be thinking something else and the guy something else. Best to discuss politely before hand. I had a Vietnamese girl tell me what she does and doesn't do in the bar without me asking so that there is no confusion in the room. We agreed and had a great sex session, the best I had in Cam. Just have fun. The way I look at it is that, with ST, it is not a lot of money even if the girl is a starfish! Go find another one.

Member #4698

11-12-13, 05:33

This sort of thing never happened to me in Cambodia before 2009. I remember all my Khmer girls back then saying "up to you" and I would keep them for as long as I liked and usually shag them 3 or 4 times before I let them go. It was great. The price in 2009 was $20 and it was much less in 2005 and earlier. Most Khmer girls are still very sweet, but times have definitely changed. Today, I think it is best to take a girl you don't know ST your first night with her and see what develops. I wouldn't even mention LT. Just assume it is going to be ST. Why make the commitment? You may not want to keep her. But, if all goes really well, the girl may want to stay on her own accord and you will know you have a good one, or the two of you can easily come to a new arrangement to make it an all nighter - another win win, or you can just make a date for another time. It's all good. If it did not go that well, you are probably much better off calling it a night or going back out and looking for another girl to do ST again. There are a ton of girls waiting for just you in the bars.

I am going to be back in Phnom in March. I am really looking forward to seeing the girls again.

ButtLover

11-12-13, 05:50

Kniom

11-13-13, 04:51

Titanio

11-13-13, 23:32

Wendella

11-17-13, 09:19

That's sort of my point. You can negotiate all you want, set all the terms and conditions and prices, and then often, especially in Cambodia, the girl doesn't deliver. Yes it's bad and wrong and unprofessional of her, but that's the reality. Ultimately these encounters come down to how you get along with each other, and there's no point in trying to force that contractually.Yes of course you're right about that, that it's become unrealistic to agree to LT and expect that LT actually is going to happen. It wasn't that way before*, but somehow has drifted into becoming the reality. Still, I don't' think we should necessarily go down without a fight. Or to just accept it happily. I think it's fair for us to still be annoyed by this. And I don't think the battle is permanently lost on this, there still is a chance that things revert to LT still being something that doesn't just equate to "I'm dumb and willing to pay double for ST";.)

* LT used to mean at least 2 shots but probably as many as you wanted, and at least til morning but sometimes for much of the next day, and the whole 'tummy hurts' thing would be absolutely unthinkable

Forever69

11-17-13, 12:17

My experience is that you just take a girl st and if it works out you repeat and soon she call herself your girlfriend and the 15-20$ are now the daily ransom and you can call her anytime but of course get service but you have to buy her a plate of rice sometime or a drink too.

Riverstar

11-18-13, 19:26

Years ago almost every girl would stay over night and often the problem was getting her to leave in the morning. I think that was partly due to the number of bars available and those that did exist were usually closed early so there was little reason for the girl to leave also your accommodation was much more comfortable than hers. I am talking about he day when Sisowath Quay would be deserted by 10pm and the only place to go after midnight was Martini in its original location, happy days. OK there wasn't so much choice but at he same time there was no hard sell much more enjoyable than today.

FreebieFan

11-20-13, 10:34

Hi,

There is a bar at the corner opposite of Shanghai bar. I don't remember the name, but it is a hostess bar with live music open 24 hours. Does anyone know if the girls are available for take outs?

Regards.

BLFirstly their wifi was excellent, in that bar. And yes girls available for take out.

Twice I partook at about 10pm, but had them back in their bar by 1am as both times I had something sweeter waiting for one, including once a bargirl from the Shanghai bar.

Theres one very cute girl in the bar, but she's a princess and knows its. Treats the other girls like shit and only smiles when a punter is buying drinks. The bar also attracts a few married expats who are taking the Cambodian "Mrs" out for a beverage. Its that or they liked 50 year old bg's. LOL

Shadow6491

11-20-13, 23:53

Shanghai is one of those bars that expats don't take girls from as a general rule. The food has always been good and the BBQ used to be an event so it was a "Safe place" that you could take you wife or GF to and not have lots of stories told about you in fact the opposite they could only say he comes in here with his friends to eat never even buys us a lady drink.

Terrym1

12-04-13, 02:40

Just finishing up four nights here. This place is great. The bars are full of pretty girls and they are ridiculously friendly. I never made it off of St 104. On my first night I took a stunning petite girl (who I should have stuck with, but I was distracted by all the pretty girls.) I was also buying drinks for her pompooy friend and feeling both of them up. I dreamed of a three way with a slim girl and a chubby one, but I never ask because I don't want to hurt my girl's feeling. Since last night was my last, I figured why not? They came right back to my hotel and were very accommodating.

Good times!

AussieGuy100

12-04-13, 18:41

Just finishing up four nights here. This place is great. The bars are full of pretty girls and they are ridiculously friendly. I never made it off of St 104. On my first night I took a stunning petite girl...

...They came right back to my hotel and were very accommodating.
Good times!

Which bars did you go to out of interest? St 104 gets very mixed reviews so it would be good to know which bars you found had girls with a good attitude.

I'm in the provinces at the moment. Just had a great massage followed by a blowjob. $7 for the massage and $5 for the extras. A nice change from Phnom Penh prices.

Terrym1

12-05-13, 03:57

I'm in the provinces at the moment. Just had a great massage followed by a blowjob. $7 for the massage and $5 for the extras. A nice change from Phnom Penh prices.Haha, Phnom Penh prices! I'm in Bangkok and it's so expensive. 2,000 THB for short time. Since I'm new to Cambodia a lot of the girls looked pretty to me. They are so different from Thais. That would probably wear off. But there were a lot of lookers at Big Momma, including a Chinese girl who didn't speak a word of English. I bought her a drink every night but never took her. Zanzibar was good too. There's a half Thai, half Khmer girl there. Rose bar was bad the girls wanted to play that stupid dice game for drinks and there were five of them playing, so the odds were against me. When a girl I wasn't interested in won and I didn't buy her a drink they all ignored me. The three way was from Colonial Bar. This place was boring and smelled like a toilet, but my girl was really beautiful.

Hobbyist2

12-08-13, 04:47

I had to make a visa run and was staying with a Thai lady in Bangkok at the time. I decided to take her with me. We got to our hotel and cleaned up and I wanted to check out some bars for possible future trips. We went to 136 st and walked around and saw about 5 ladies sitting outside of this bar. We decided to stop there and get a drink. We sat down outside where some of the ladies were. They were kind of like bar stool chairs. A lady took our order and asked where my lady friend was from, we said Thailand. The next thing I know she is swarmed by 3 or 4 ladies. One has her arm and is massaging it. Another one is massaging her shoulder. They all seem to want to get their hands on her. At one point there were 5 ladies around her. They all seemed to be fascinated with Thailand and my Thai lady.

I was sitting there and not getting much attention and that probably was the proper thing. Although one lady did come over and start massaging my arm and neck. She did it for about 20 minutes. I did buy her a drink. I told her that was good and she could stop, but she just kept massaging me. I finally asked if one of the ladies wanted to play pool and they hooked me up with one inside who was good at the game. After three games I went back out and these ladies were still holding on to my lady friend. I sat down in my chair and the massage lady comes over and starts massaging me again and I told that she didn't need to do that I was fine. She still wouldn't stop.

I don't know why these ladies were going on like this, but it seemed strange to me. I didn't think they were lesbos. There were other men in the bar with ladies and some other ladies would chase some guys on the street. Maybe they were looking for tips? I bought a lot of drinks in that bar. My lady would tell me buy this one a drink and then buy that one a drink. It was very funny for me to see how they were acting or reacting to my friend. I don't know if anyone here has had similar experiences, but I was surprised.

Later we went to another bar and when we ordered the lady asked where my friend was from and we said Thailand and she said "I love Thailand". She could even speak a few words in Thai. The next thing I know there are three ladies at our table. All talking to my friend and ignoring me for the most part. I only bought two drinks at this bar.

Another thing that was interesting to me was that my lady doesn't speak much English and the bar ladies there didn't either, but they seemed to be having a good time chatting.

Sorry this isn't a report about me and some Cambodian ladies getting it on. Any comments on why the fascination with Thailand and my friend?

Haokool

12-11-13, 19:47

Ok let me see if I got it correctly.

After reading the forum, SR is for Angkor Temples and PP for mongering?

I got this link about friendly hotels. (thank you by the way)

http://www.gfriendlyhotels-cambodia.com/#Phnom_Penh

Can anyone give me the name of a guest house or hotel in PP that looks more like a "home" rather that a typical 4 or +5 floors hotel with heavy trafic.

I am much into getting lost off the beaten path, I like my way off loud drunk tourists, showing of freshly made tattoos.

That said I have found on the SR forum GG coors pointing at 2 "chickenhouses" were take out or onsite are OK, and prices between 20 and 30.

Do you guy have few "chickenhouses" in RR, like on a corner street in an area that is not loaded with tourists?

I'd like to stay away from those xXx farm mills flashing neons hassling cheeks like on BKK Soys. For it does kill the fun to my opinion.

Thanks!

LifeIsABeach

12-12-13, 08:43

Can anyone give me the name of a guest house or hotel in PP that looks more like a "home" rather that a typical 4 or +5 floors hotel with heavy trafic.

I am much into getting lost off the beaten path, I like my way off loud drunk tourists, showing of freshly made tattoos. Thanks!The guest house you mentioned in the PM is a off the beaten path, on a side street and more like a 'home'. As I mentioned, being on the side street, there is a lack of Tuk Tuks late at night but PUB street is walkable distance. I used to walk there and then take a tuk tuk back, about a $1. 00 or less ride. There are free lancers around the Pub Street area and plenty massage places for about $5. 00. This should be in the Siem Reap thread.

Chichichi

12-19-13, 20:59

Can anyone share what's the mongers favorite hotels and area in PP?

Chris Slipper

12-20-13, 10:57

A few interesting posts about beer gardens a few pages back. Are there any Viet girls at these bars as I am comfortable with this language, but will be staying in PP 8 weeks?

For what it's worth, I have had some good times at Martinis in the past, but looking for a few more options.

Many thanks in advance.

Chairman

12-22-13, 03:45

I ended up staying almost whole trip with the one I met on DIA form SR. Too bad she started acting nutty at the end of 3 weeks. I gave her around $20 / day. I'll be back to PP / SVille soon. Anyone want to trade contacts via PM? This one may take three friendly dates to get in bed but well worth it. All holes will open.

In PP I didn't see many attractive around 51 st. Maybe just bad timing. Didn't get a chance to try the hostess bars.

Warning: The young punk attendant in the massage place near the mall started to go through my pockets hanging on a hook till I grabbed his arm.

Theres a few chicken shop type places on st 172 south of the mall. Anyone try them?

I use Tagged met one of my present GFs on there, University girl, was 18 years old, but took about 1 month to get in her pants, which isn't that bad considering she was a virgin and now a dirty dirty little thing. 3-hole too, god bless her. Oh, and horny as hell now, but I put a lot of time in on her, no pun intended. She never had an orgasm before never masturbated, Thank god I have a vibrator because all the lickin and bangin wasn't gettin her there. Then after she had her first "O". Well now she just loves cock. Not the first or 5th virgin in PP, I've had with the same experience, bit of a pain in the ass, since I like working girls, but they are now.

The nice thing is I got BBFS now with 4 girls that were virgins and another that helps me find new girls. Took a good year to get it set-up but the one that helps me find new girls, she is a god send and she's not bad lookin just too old for me 27 now and I'm a 18-24 then out the door kind of guy. I do still give her a good shag once a month though, just because she's GF3 and swallows, love those birds.

Got a couple others off tagged too, and met up, but there pics where far better looking than them.

Cheers,

GM

Red Kilt

12-28-13, 12:10

I'll be back to PP / SVille soon. Anyone want to trade contacts via PM? This one may take three friendly dates to get in bed but well worth it. All holes will open.Don't you realise that you cannot get or send PMs unless you pay up for a membership Chairman?

No (or very few) ISG members will share contacts on the open forum. I certainly won't.

Bubba999

12-31-13, 05:24

GooberMonger

01-01-14, 20:00

ProzziePounder

01-04-14, 00:00

In PP for a few nights and checked out a few bars on 130, 118 and 136 but pick of them was Loco on Street 130. Nice inside, friendly management, and pretty girls who are happy and good company both in the bar and also back at hotel. Standard prices but "barfine" is negotiated with girl and not paid to bar itself. Definitely one of the best hostess bars in Phnom Penh!That's funny, I totally flopped in this bar and left after one drink.

Anyway, I want to relay a recent mongering experience to give fellow punters an idea of the current scene.

I drunkenly stumbled into Oscar's bar on street 104 in the relatively early hours in search of some action.

I was immediately set upon by tartily dressed girl who seemed overly eager but, seeing as she dived immediately into DFK without even hinting at a lady drink, I accepted the situation for what it was.

I explained to the lady that I was after some cheap flange. Not the $30 short time nonsense that I had been quoted in other establishments.

She was almost too eager to agree to depart with a $20 ST price tag and a wavered BF in the form of couple of LDs.

Normally I'm put off by the overly slutty, porn star pretender types, but I was sufficiently sozzled and up for the occasion I agreed to her unusual pitch.

And so we departed for a few beverages at Golden Sorya Mall before I proceeded to give her a jolly good rogering back at my shoddy guesthouse.

She actually stayed LT, so despite her being a tad on the over eager side, she ended up being well worth the outlay.

She was far from a munter either. Probably around a 7 on the looks and body side. Although her sluttishness certainly detracted from her appeal.

The only negative aspect was the condom slipping off (albeit very brifely) , which triggers a necessary jaunt to the STD clinic.

But all in all, a Jolly good night's punting.

JesseJames

01-04-14, 04:18

Krishpad

01-08-14, 16:06

I was in PP just after Christmas and had a great time there.

Day 1.

Arrived late from SR and headed for dinner straight after checking in. Post dinner took a stroll on 104 and entered Top Ten bar. Limited number of girls but a real cutie from Vietnam. Not in a mood to barfine so early, so after a drink headed out to check out scene at other bars.

Entered AirForce as it gets some good reviews on ISG. I will say it was the most dull / boring bar I visited during my entire visit in Cambodia. No girl above 6 and too much pestering for ST. Maybe I went at the wrong time. So another drink and on to the next bar.

Rose Bar. Now this one had a huge collection of girls and a pool table. Ordered my beer and was scanning through when I spotted this dark toned Cambodian girl. Slim, decent height and very cute. I offered to buy her a drink and play some pool with her. While playing pool she introduced me to her twin sister. Anyone have the fantasy of 3some with twins? I did not and so concentrated on my pick. After 3 games of pool I asked her about Barfine. She was not keen on LT and I was not keen on ST. In the end I gave up and took her back to my room for ST. 25$. She was very lively throughout the session with full cooperation and a NO only to anal. She left after an hour and it was time to call it a night!

Krishpad

01-08-14, 16:07

Visited the National Museum and Grand Palace in the daytime, had evening snacks at Night Market and on to Sharkys. Now this is a cool bar just to enjoy your drink, play pool and listen to some live music. There were a good number of ladies by 9PM but none of them spectacular enough to think about returning for them. The live band had a young English men and twin Cambodian sisters. They played a good mixture of English-Khmer songs and were joined by some guest artists in between. Today I wanted to check out street 51, so left Sharkys around 10 and walked towards 51.

Was not sure of which place to go, so randomly entered Milk Bar. There was only 1 customer before me and around 10 gals, so I got a lot of attention. A girl who I would rate 8 came in and wanted a drink. I did not want to hand it to her so easily, so asked her to beat me at connect 4 and earn a drink. She lost 8 games in a row and switched the game to pool. There she lost 4. Now other girls liked the challenge and came in 1 by 1; total 5 girls. Game of pool and connect 4. I didn't loose a single one. Now I am pretty average at both these games and girls at Hilary in Bangkok beats me 3 out of 5 times. These girls need some practice. I eventually bought the first lady a drink and she was pretty happy with it. Did I tell you each time the girl looses she would be either kissing me or some ass grinding on my lap.

Next was Heart of Darkness. Very mixed crowd from backpackers to old farangs with their ladies. I came out without a drink and straight to 136.

69. Tell me again, why is this bar famous? Because girls dance on the tables? I found it boring and left after a drink as none of the available girls were appealing.

Lemon Bar. Good vibe around the bar, friendly ladies and 1+1 beer. Sir Lancelot, I met Elena and played pool with her but she was not bar fining that day. Same deal. Win a game of pool and get a drink. Elena and her partner won against me and a mate and earned their drinks. We were about to buy a drink for them anyways. Had some good fun with the ladies there but did not barfine anyone.

Now it was almost 2AM and I knew I need to act fast if want to bed a girl. So on to street 104 and Matilda. It was dark and dull at 2AM and 4/5 girls in zombie state. I thought of trying my luck with the Vietnamese lady at Top Ten and bingo, she was getting ready to leave as I entered. I said Barfine LT and she said yes. 80$. I was like WTF and quoted 30. I took her for 10$ barfine and 40$ for her for staying till 7AM.

Quick shower and first session which again included everything except anal. We slept at 3:30 and she woke me up at 4:30 for another session. I thought this would be the last but we had another one before she left at 7. Overall a well 50$ spent on her.

Krishpad

01-08-14, 16:21

Got up at 11 and post breakfast got into a tuk tuk for trip to Killing Fields and Toul Sleng genocide museum. I would highly recommend anyone visiting Cambodia to go to these 2 places. It along with Angkor what gives a good info on the history of Cambodia and Khmer Rouge. The self guided audio tour of Killing fields is very well done and very informative. I spent a good amount of time at both these places and came back around 6PM. Took some rest and went to the night market to have some street food. Street food is another attraction for me in any of the SEA countries.

I wanted to take it light today as had a morning bus to Sihanoukville and also wanted to catch on some EPL games. So went to a sports bar where saw some games along with a few Brits and thoroughly enjoyed their banter. I had so much fun at the hostess bar that I could not resist going their again and see if I get a cutie for ST. So off to 104 and I don't know the name of the place I went. It had 2 pool tables upstairs and I went up along with some 7-8 girls. Isn't it fun to get so much attention and then beat them at a game of pool. I played pool with all of them, bought all of them drinks as it was my last night in PP and I had thoroughly enjoyed it (I lost only 1 game BTW).1 big room upstairs, you and 8 girls with lady drinks. Rest is upto your imagination.

I also passed Cyrcee on the second day but did not venture in. Also briefly stopped by Walkabout and Shanghai. Walkabout was overcrowded and Shanghai was empty.

Overall I found that PP girls are more friendly than their Thai counterparts, are less pushy for LDs and can be easily beaten in a game of pool or connect 4.

Thanks to Sir Lancelot and others for all the informative posts here which helped plan the trip.

Shadow6491

01-09-14, 00:47

Bonker04

01-09-14, 04:01

Now it was almost 2AM and I knew I need to act fast if want to bed a girl. So on to street 104 and Matilda. It was dark and dull at 2AM and 4/5 girls in zombie state. I thought of trying my luck with the Vietnamese lady at Top Ten and bingo, she was getting ready to leave as I entered. I said Barfine LT and she said yes. 80$. I was like WTF and quoted 30. I took her for 10$ barfine and 40$ for her for staying till 7AM.

Quick shower and first session which again included everything except anal. We slept at 3:30 and she woke me up at 4:30 for another session. I thought this would be the last but we had another one before she left at 7. Overall a well 50$ spent on her.A lot of the girls nowadays are starting to ask ridiculous prices. I won't play their game! There are plenty more fish in the sea. I have found that with only a little bit of effort you can usually get them down to $20 plus the $10 bar fine. The most I have paid was $30. Once you start to walk away, especially if you have already bought them an LD, they usually come back and that's your cue to negotiate the price down to a realistic level.

I think that once a few guys start paying more, it just sets the bar higher for the norm. I can't think of any girl that I would pay $50 for, let alone $80!

Novice69

01-09-14, 10:38

The only negative aspect was the condom slipping off (albeit very brifely) , which triggers a necessary jaunt to the STD clinic.Hi,

Did you do the check up already? Which clinic would you recommend?

Wendella

01-11-14, 10:12

warning: the young punk attendant in the massage place near the mall started to go through my pockets hanging on a hook till i grabbed his arm.don't hold it against him, he's just doing his job. not very well, he is supposed to wait until you are preoccupied with other things before shoving his hands in your pockets.

seriously, those places are well known for that exact thing. there used to be lots of reports about it up here, but then it got to be so well known that no one went to those places any more. i guess you missed that part of recent history. looks like you are up to speed now though.

AnywhereInAsia

01-21-14, 03:50

Just got back a couple weeks ago from a nice 8 night trip in pp.

First report to post, although I've done probably 20 trips in various country's over the past 8 years, I am new to this board.

Memory is abit blurred, but I arrived on the 30th late at night on Cambodian Angkor air, which I got a deal on from sky scanner from BKK, a couple of dollars cheaper than air Asia and much better airline. Went out to a local rest with a internet girl, nothing much eventuated so had a early first night.

New Year's Eve was next, I went to a early dinner with next internet date who picked me up on her moto (this is one big advantage in Cambodia over Phil, even tho it's a poor countries most girls will have a moto and smartphone) After dinner I suggest we go back for some whiskey in the hotel (flamingos $25 a night, good budget hotel in 51 street, however I will try riverside next time as very little day time activities in 51) I tell her I am meeting a friend for countdown so they she doesn't think she is clinging on the whole night. After few drinks seal the deal, she was a nice girl prob 22 or so, had some experience with foreigners had a good couple of rounds while drinking and preparing myself for countdown.

Parted ways with no money exchanged, I filter them out before meeting to find the nice ones from internet / apps. Then off to, pontoon around 1030pm. I was meant to meet up with another date for countdown who I had met on a previous trip but only for dinner date, I saw New Years as a opportunity to seal the deal. She was late, and I slowly got drunker until midnight and grabbed some random to pash for countdown. Memory gets a little blurry from here, but I met up with a Malaysian girl who is holidaying in pp later that night, and went with her to heart of darkness. Apparently I was acting foolishly and she went home around 3am, I guess I stayed in heart for a hr or so more, not sure how I got back but I woke up alone luckily still with my phone and wallet. I did wake up to abusive txt from the dinner date since she saw me with the Malaysian girl just hrs after banging her.

New Year's Day, after texting Malaysian apologising for being drunk we decide to meet, went in the hotel eventually get the job done with her, then go to chuck Norris dim sum in 51 street for dinner which I recommend, opens only in the evening just in golden Sorya mall.

I had visited various bars around 51 street, all disappointing. Walkabout is hit and miss, I often called by in afternoon when bored for a beer but wasn't a lot to tempt me. Still was the most happening for the area, drinks are reasonable, until you order a mixer with your spirit and have to buy a bottle of it. Worth a look but it's no la cafe. Shanghai bar had plenty of cuties but didn't inquire about taking them home. Rest of the bars around there including Sorya beer garden I wasn't impressed during day or night.

Next day lunch at Sorya shopping mall, which is a real mall unlike golden Sorya which is a dew bars and shops. They have a food court which is well priced, and some Asian food and fruit shakes are decent. I also ate at the BBQ chicken place which is good and the pizza place which I found disappointing and expensive. Lunch date had a friend with her so I didn't bother inviting back to hotel. Relax for rest of day and meet up with dinner date, and went to dine in the dark, which was great. Eating in complete darkness and not knowing what will be served is the fun part. Blind waiters take you to your table and serve you. Date was hot, dressed up and with a iPhone 5. Spoke good English and had full time job so thought this will be the one to take there. After dinner went back to room for drinks, she wasn't so happy now, wanted to party but I wanted a quiet one. She stayed for awhile and after I made a few advances said she had period and needs to go. In later txts I was trying to get to the bottom of things and invited her around again as she had shown interest in further messages. She then said she isn't looking for relationship and I said that's fine, she then asked how much will I give her. This took me by surprised as generally I can read people well but did not expect that from her as she seemed well educated, perhaps she wanted me to get her drunk and myself the first night then can expect me to help her, however when I wanted a quiet one reliased I won't be paying? Ended conversation after that comment.

Decided to head down to riverside and check out the host bars, they were much more lively than 51. Most bars are the same, drinks are $3-4 for a jack, $1-2 for beers and $3 for girls. I went to all the hot spots. 104, 110 etc. They are much of a much ness and depend on your luck of the night. I found the girls to be very friendly, waitress never push for tip, and after buying a lady drink they were very appreciative. Even if you didn't buy one they would sit with you until you finish yours and leave. There was no standout bar for me, I like to have one drink and move on to check them all out. Riverside was fun, and I'll stay there next time rather than 51. 51 is only good for discos and walkabout, bars are rubbish.

After a few drinks then I hit the clubs, darling darling was first, alots if guys, little girls. Didn't see any noticeable p4p even regulars for few and far between. Ran into Chinese Malaysian girl, but she was with Chinese Malay friends including ex bf, so she disappeared fairly quickly. Headed to river house but was quiet, something about police had come and I should come back tomorrow. Didn't make it but river house is normally a nice choice for semi tame disco. Off to Icon I think the name is, where Malaysian had told me many older rich Cambodians go looking for a toy boy so I wanted to check this out. Mainly foreigners there, boys and girls and a few Cambodian Middle class girls nothing special so had a drink and went to Santa fa or saint tropes. It's just near 51 but again abit quiet only a couple of groups, but looked like it might be fun earlier on a weekend night. Hit

Pontoon etc and ended up at a after hrs bar in golden Sorya. Open till 8am just near the pontoon side, forget the name. Lots of ladyboys and few left over girls and drunks. I picked up one of the left overs and headed back to flamingo around 6am. She was nice and good in bed at the time, but things went bad as payment came up. She was asking me to help her family for $70 I explained nicely that's not my problem and gave her the required $20. She wouldn't accept and wouldn't leave claiming I told her $70 last night, which of course no matter how drunk I am wouldn't. 70 is a funny figure anyway. In the end she wouldn't leave had to get security eventually convinced her to go. I think 20 is more than fair for a 6am pickup, besides she was no oil painting.

Next day was bored hit walkabout again, I did speak to, well, write to a deaf and dumb chick, perhaps the same one people have spoken about here with messed up tits, although I didn't see it. Was tempted but after hearing she was bad news here passed. Met a nice blondie with big fake tits, this will do I thought. Asked her how much, thinking don't want a repeat of yesterday. She said you been here many times, you know just pay same as other girls. Gave her $20 after couple of afternoon rounds, she was happy and gave me her number. Nice girl, much better than my previously experience.

Dinner date with internet girl, went to river and then back to room for more drinks before I have to go meet Chinese Malay, dinner date was great, great English, had western bf before so open to BBBJ etc. Easy to get rid of since she knew I was going out later. Met up with her a couple of times later for a rerun. Then off to pontoon with Malay, she already had a bucket of beers so knew wanted a big one, got drunk with her then she took me so some local after club, forget the name, maybe Vegas was one and there was another, mainly drug and upper class. No spirits only beers at $15 each. Wasn't for me so after one headed back to 51, she wanted to party but I was ready for bed got into some argument and told her I banged a girl last night for $20 which she was furious, and stormed off home. Get a call 30 min later saying she is coming over to drop off my flip flops. She had borrowed the other night since didn't want to get tuktuk in high heels. Once in rooms had make up sex and all was good again.

On Tuk Tuk and motos. I rarely got a Tuk for $1 anywhere, was 6000 or $2. Moto never under $1 either, but never over. Think I paid 6000 going from river to darling. From airport paid $6 Tuk Tuk and going back $6 also.

Second last night I headed to cyreee, the first two that latched onto me were average but couldn't be bothered looking around, wanted to try the two girls thing they specialised in. Bar fine they reckon was $7 or 10 each. Might have been $7 plus $3 compulsory lady drink, and they wanted $25 each. I said my friend told me two is $20 each but they wouldn't budge. Room was $5 or whatever it normally is. Performances was ok, they did everything as asked. Maybe I was shy and didn't demand enough but it didn't seem as special as others report. They interacted a little but no porn star experience. I'd go there again, just once a trip is enough for the hell of it.

Last day I spent with a rerun from my last trip, I had took her viriginity a few months ago and stayed in touch on FB, just as quiet night as I was off to Philippines next day. Annoyingly Malaysian rocked up uninvited and had to sell front desk I was busy when she called the room. I later found out she got her phone stolen and was coming to let me know she can't reply to my txts, so I felt like abit of a prick.

IamJohnGalt

01-30-14, 04:48

Forever69

01-30-14, 12:58

I'm planning first visit to Phnom Penh starting mid February. Anyone recommend 2-3 star GF hotels ($20-$30) quiet but near action in PP?

Circuit-Nana (st 154) , California 2 (riverside) sound ok from reports and website.

Also any recommendations on sim card for Cambodia and where to buy?

Thanks in advance.Free Sim at the airport, all in service for a couple of bucks.

I use beeline and you have to ask them to activate <the promotion for the 3 cent per minute deal for international calls.

Inside cambo it is just pennies for calls.

Traveler1234

01-30-14, 16:04

Also any recommendations on sim card for Cambodia and where to buy?

Thanks in advance.When you arrive at airport in PP, after you exit terminal, there are several kiosks that sell prepaid data / voice plan, total cost for sim card and minutes a whopping $10. I think the better providers are Beeline and Hello Card, YMMV.

Gone Around

01-31-14, 02:19

I think Beeline is what I've used in the past and would use again when in town next month. It's $ 2 a week and works fine in my iPhone 5. Even in boondock places like Kep, I can find a telecom office willing to charge it for me.

LifeIsABeach

01-31-14, 08:50

I'm planning first visit to Phnom Penh starting mid February. Anyone recommend 2-3 star GF hotels ($20-$30) quiet but near action in PP?

Circuit-Nana (st 154) , California 2 (riverside) sound ok from reports and website.You have to decide where to stay. The main areas are Street 51 or the Riverside. Nana- Circuit is at Street 51 and I have stayed there. It is not a bad hotel and was going through renovations at that time. I chose it as it has a elevator and I needed it as I had hurt my knees just prior to my vacation and it was difficult to use the stairs. I also saw a few more hotels on Street 51 that had bigger and better rooms but no elevator. Circuit will provide a safe and also a free breakfast. They also have a computer to use in the lobby. If you stay a week or longer, ask the manager for a discount. Also they check with you when the girl leaves. You should decide where your main mongering is going to be and decide accordingly.

IamJohnGalt

02-01-14, 03:17

Thanks Islandboy, Gonearound, and Traveler for the help on cell services.

IamJohnGalt

02-01-14, 03:21

You have to decide where to stay. The main areas are Street 51 or the Riverside. Nana- Circuit is at Street 51 and I have stayed there. It is not a bad hotel and was going through renovations at that time. I chose it as it has a elevator and I needed it as I had hurt my knees just prior to my vacation and it was difficult to use the stairs. I also saw a few more hotels on Street 51 that had bigger and better rooms but no elevator. Circuit will provide a safe and also a free breakfast. They also have a computer to use in the lobby. If you stay a week or longer, ask the manager for a discount. Also they check with you when the girl leaves. You should decide where your main mongering is going to be and decide accordingly.Thanks, LifeIsABeach. I will reserve at Circuit for the first couple days, and have a look around.

Did you have any problem with noise interfering with sleep there?

Any advice on which mongering areas are preferable and why?

Looking forward to unwinding in PP; )

LifeIsABeach

02-01-14, 05:48

Thanks, LifeIsABeach. I will reserve at Circuit for the first couple days, and have a look around.

Did you have any problem with noise interfering with sleep there?

Any advice on which mongering areas are preferable and why?

Looking forward to unwinding in PP;) I cannot recommend where as each monger has different tastes and some prefer the riverside and others street 51 area. I had no problem sleeping at night as there was not that much noise at all. I like a smoke free room and it took me three tries to find a room that did not have smell of smoke. I used to do some sight seeing during the day and mongering at night. I was able to get enough pussy at street 51 as there are many bars and clubs too there that I did not have time to venture to riverside. You can do both as they are not far from each other.

Ppfrequentv

02-02-14, 04:52

I cannot recommend where as each monger has different tastes and some prefer the riverside and others street 51 area. I had no problem sleeping at night as there was not that much noise at all. I like a smoke free room and it took me three tries to find a room that did not have smell of smoke. I used to do some sight seeing during the day and mongering at night. I was able to get enough pussy at street 51 as there are many bars and clubs too there that I did not have time to venture to riverside. You can do both as they are not far from each other.I'm pretty sure that the Circuit hotel does not exist anymore. It has changed it's name (and management presumably) to LyLy hotel I believe. Can't comment on anything else because I've never stayed there.

LifeIsABeach

02-02-14, 08:08

I'm pretty sure that the Circuit hotel does not exist anymore. It has changed it's name (and management presumably) to LyLy hotel I believe. Can't comment on anything else because I've never stayed there.It is still there. Right next to Na Na hotel, owned by the same people. It may now be one hotel as NaNa Hotel. Here is the link: http://circuithotel.net/ .

Ppfrequentv

02-02-14, 11:51

It is still there. Right next to Na Na hotel, owned by the same people. It may now be one hotel as NaNa Hotel. Here is the link:

http://circuithotel.net/That was the name I was looking for, NaNa. I passed there a week ago and the name of of Circuit was nowhere to be seen. They probably still use the website of former but who cares if the place is good and still girlfriendly.

LifeIsABeach

02-02-14, 18:30

That was the name I was looking for, NaNa. I passed there a week ago and the name of of Circuit was nowhere to be seen. They probably still use the website of former but who cares if the place is good and still girlfriendly.Even when I was there, I used to say NANA Hotel to Tuk Tuks as that was name they were familiar with. It's the same ownership and they even use the same reception area, for both Circuit Hotel and NaNa Hotel! Maybe a combined hotel now. Price is low and rooms are OK, not too small and location is good for street 51. There are places with bigger and better rooms on Street 51 around the same price.

Titanio

02-02-14, 23:39

Even when I was there, I used to say NANA Hotel to Tuk Tuks as that was name they were familiar with. It's the same ownership and they even use the same reception area, for both Circuit Hotel and NaNa Hotel! Maybe a combined hotel now. Price is low and rooms are OK, not too small and location is good for street 51. There are places with bigger and better rooms on Street 51 around the same price.In the past it were 2 separated hotels each with its ow reception. Circuit was OK with a good breakfast and tight but friendly security. If you had a room at the end of the corridor, the almost private balcony was all yours. Last time after the merge I inquired for a room, but not so friendly and helpful staff at the Nana, so I walked away and got a great room opposite Walkabout in the PC hotel.

IamJohnGalt

02-03-14, 03:12

Anyone ever stay at Green Centre Point Inn? (Reviews on Agoda appear good. Seems not far from mongering area.)

BronzeMan

02-03-14, 15:46

hi all,

long time reader, first time contributor. paid for premium membership, just waiting for activation.

not much in the way of info on this thread in ages. i've lived here for a little while, know the city pretty well, can speak the language. this is what i have.

hostess bars:

street 172. a tourist area with a few bars. the only ones worth visiting in my opinion are gladiator (which is a mainstream restaurant by day) and 172 bar, which has a number of cute girls working.

street 136. the two blocks closest to the riverside house a number of bars. the biggest concentration is on the north side of 136 nearest the riverside. the best bars in my opinion (ratio of best looking women to the percent that will actually go out with customers) are oasis, lemon, and sizzlers. the worst bars are dream bar, sexy girl, singer and candy (the last two are haunted by ladybodys). this street also has a lot of 'legitimate businesses' and you will encounter numerous 'regular tourists. '

street 130. this street gets less attention but the second and third blocks from the riverside house a number of bars. the best bars are pon lieu lin (now operating under a new name that i can't remember – half way down the block on the north side, the next bar after you pass loco bar on the right) , japanese school-uniform moepara (now reopened) and barbados. the worst are golden bear, hooters (now under some new name, i forgot what) .136 and that one next to the noodle house that's always filled with african guys. loco is a new bar with a large staff, most of who are decent in looks. there are few stunners and quite a few only work for drinks. a nice place to have a drink but i've never seen anything i'd want to take out of there.

street 118. this street has more tourist oriented stuff than bars, but there are a few. island bar has about 30 girls working, all of whom are keen to go out for short time. if you show up a little later in the night your pickings will be slim. dream bar has a decent number of women on staff, but most don't look too great, kind of like the bar itself. nice friends bar is almost dead. you might fight two women in here if you're lucky.

street 110. this street has a nice concentration of bars in a one block space next to old market (phsar chas). it doesn't get a lot of attention from tourists, but expats can be found quite often. lips bar is the newest additional and it has a mix of beautiful young women and haggard old gals. the problem is that the old birds are the only ones who go out with customers. zanzi pub is the new bar, large with a big glass front. some decent looking girls here, they make themselves look better with makeup and hair. possible to get their phone number for later, but no barfine. city bar has a lot of vietnamese girls, most will go with customers. pretty woman has a large number of women, all will go out. happy man, starlight and ben's have small staffs. most of the women will go out, but don't expect anything to write home about.

street 108. the section of the street that would interest people here is a little out of the way and holds three bars. it can be worth a visit depending on the time. the bars here are golden vine (mostly mediocre girls, but a lot of mileage possible in the bar and most will go with customers) , voodoo (an average bar with some pretty girls, some of whom won't go out) and enigma which has a mix of girls, most of whom will go out. if you're looking for a guaranteed shot at a lady you should be able to find something here. secrets cafe now opened too (supposedly 24 hours) , but i haven't been in yet.

street 104. this is a small street between the riverside and post office. it's dead during the day, but comes alive at around 6 pm. there are over a dozen bars here, and you can easily walk from one to the other. the best bars here are zanzibar, colonial, top ten, airforce and big mama's. at least three of those have bar-top dancing on a regular basis. the worst bars are 104 bar (smells like someone shit on the floor) , bunny bar (worn down bar with poor looking staff) , oscars (dirty with a poor selection) and smile girl (super hustler girls).

street 51. this street has a few bars up and down from sorya mall, but to be quite honest, most of them are staffed by an assortment of uninterested slappers that i wouldn't fool around with for free. plan b has a few decent girls and they nearly all go out. t-pub next door occasionally has a few too, but most of them work for drinks only. black cat is a dump that's open 24 hours with a mix of hardened passable women and some real dogs. most will go out with customers but there are a few virgins there who won't. shanghai on the corner has a mix of cute younger women and decent old women, but there is no bar fine system. you'd have to convince a woman working there to meet you outside for a date some other time if you were interested. i'm not. the new oscar bar is okay, or at least better than the old one on 104.

around town. there are other hostess bars rep001tered around phnom penh.

there's a bar just south of candy bar on street 5. i forget the name but it's small with a tiny staff. still they're keen to go home with you.

the cat house at the corner of 118 and 51 is an unassuming place with a number of good looking women (and some average) inside. the good thing is that they wear semi-sexy uniforms which vary depending on the day of the week, and the place serves good food. the bad thing is the place is a lot like shanghai in that there is no barfine. you'd have to convince a woman working there to meet you outside for a date if you were interested. this can be done, and money doesn't necessarily have to change hands, in my experience.

dv8 is a nice little bar near the riverside on street 148. some really beautiful girls work here, and quite a few are 19 or 20 years old, but only about half will go out with customers. the early-30's manager with big jugs who wears tight dresses without a bra many nights is a nice touch too.

domino bar on street 5 is a true dump. an old worn out bar with a bunch of ladyboys and disinterested washed up old birds inside. there are occasionally one or two decent women working here, but it's too much work to fish them out.

zambezi around the corner from cyrcee on street * is a malaysian owned bar that gets little traffic. a small mix of girls, never saw any stars. most are keen to go out with customers.

nay nay star bar is on street 102 is a hotel, bar and restaurant. it's open 24 hours and has rooms right up stairs. any time between 1 pm and midnight there will be a number of women here looking for some company. beware of a few sharks who will try to milk you for every lady drink they can get.

cyrcee on street 49 should be known well enough by now. short time available with everyone on staff, which means about 30 women on a good night. a few lookers, but more and more are on the poor side of the beauty scale nowadays. easy action with a few guest houses within walking distance.

white love – a japanese hostess bar with a really nice interior and good customer service. about 25 khmer girls are joined by a few vietnamese, two filipinas and even a japanese woman in her 30's. plenty of beautiful women here. mostly japanese customers but i've been welcomed warmly. girls will sit with you and drink and normally, but every 15 or 20 minutes the boss orders a rotation. if you want a particular girl to keep sitting with you, you have to pay a nomination fee of 10. karaoke available at the bar or in the rooms upstairs. they throw a 5 percent service charge on the bill at the end of your visit for good measure. no bar fine system, but you can negotiate outside action directly with some of the girls.

mao's club – a mao tse tung themed bar on the riverside near 104. started as a large place but couldn't pay the bills. large staff and a pool table in the back. some girls will go out, others will want you to visit numerous times, spend a lot of money and still might not. some real stunners here mixed in with the average.

standard rates for hostess bar girls are 30 short time or 40-50 long time. easiest way to do it is not mention payment in advance and simply discreetly place it near her on the way out. note that some will ask for a lot more than this.

freelancers:

martini – night time operation. most motos and tuk tuks will know it, some still don't. it's a bit far from everything else on this list. it's a sort of super complex – a walled in venue with a beer garden, bar, disco, etc. it's pretty dumpy looking but a number of freelancers haunt it. most are vietnamese, some are khmer. don't expect any stunners, but more than half are acceptable. action is easily negotiated and takes place in a nearby guest house.

walk about – a sort of open air dive bar that has women most any time of the day, with the largest concentration at about 8 pm. not the choice selection by any means. plenty of places around for the action to take place if you're keen.

sorya mall – street 51 across from the aforementioned bars. a failed strip mall filled with various bars that will also fail in due time. hanging out here will put you in eye shot of a few freelancers. few to no stars, but many are acceptable. don't expect a huge army of women, sometimes numbers are quite limited. fair number of ladyboys appearing nowadays too.

sharky's bar – on street 130 a few blocks from the riverside. a large bar with live music and pool. some freelancers work here. don't expect much in looks, but occasionally a star will wander in.

darlin darlin – a live music bar attached to the naga world casino. with the construction going on now you have to pass the casino and keep going toward koh pich. just before you cross the bridge you'll see the sign for the place on the wall. this place sees a lot of asian high rollers. average to beautiful women ply their trade here, but most want a good amount of money. you can also find freelancers inside naga world at times, which is usual for almost any casino in the world.

clubs like pontoon and heart of darkness, and the after hours bar g-pub (all in or around sorya mall) will have some freelancers, but don't mistake all women there as workers. most are not and can get quite offended of being offered money out of nowhere. hit or miss, in my opinion not worth dealing with the drunken idiots and pounding music when so many other options exist.

freelancers should be 15 – 25 short time depending on your negotiation skills.

massage:

most khmer guys and long term expats focus on massage places, which are easy in easy out, with no hassles or game playing. most of the massage parlors on street 63 have been shut down. some had beautiful women offering full service and were quite cheap (as low as $5) , but many also had guys with sticky fingers working them.

soul massage / ktv is a gigantic building on the southern end of sothearos before it turns to cross norodom and turn into mao tse tung. this is not a massage parlor but a full complex with a parking garage, elevator, fountains and more. head to the top floor in the elevator for the massage. there you'll find a large fishbowl filled with khmer women. they don't dress all that well but some are absolute stunners with bodies to match their beautiful faces. it's tough trying to point out the one you want since they don't wear numbers, but there are worse problems to have. it's $6 for the massage, payable to the old lady at the desk, then you go to the large hotel style rooms. the women start out with ridiculous prices of up to 100 and usually won't budge much. they aren't great performers either. but man the looks of some of them make it all okay in my book. multi-girl action is even possible, but don't expect any interaction. the other floors of the place have karaoke rooms, and customers can negotiate action with the women that work them too. needless to say the well done up ones wearing prom dresses are super expensive. chinese and korean businessmen love this place.

panda massage on street 240 south of sorya mall is good for basic extras, but some ask for ridiculous amounts. no real beauties either.

sokun's place on the riverside near the night market has better looking women and basic extras but they also ask for more than you might expect, and action is done in a room with other beds separated only by curtains.

the dozen or more massage shops on sothearos south of sihanouk are hit or miss. if you go at night and get an oil massage from a single lady you have a good shot at being offered a handy. if you go for a four handed massage the women may act like they would never do it, saving in face in front of friends. asking prices start as high as 25 nowadays, but can easily be negotiated down.

if you drive around that same area of sothearos at night you will be summoned by numerous pimps who sit or stand outside on the side of the road. their mode of operations is to get customers into one of those guest houses. they then offer a girl for 30 or more. that can be negotiated down to 20. they will then bring a girl which the customer can accept or reject and ask for another. not rip off joints, but sometimes the women are quite unattractive. the women never ask for tips but the pimps, guest house guys and even parking attendants are good at hounding for tips.

there are four fishbowls that i know of in phnom penh, all of which have large and mostly attractive staffs who ply their services for very reasonable rates (20-40). since two others that were really good have been shut down in recent times, i'm not going to broadcast the locations publicly. members with solid posting records are free to contact me via pm.

the 'mainstream' places around the city used to be almost sure shots to get a handy for a few bucks, but that seems to becoming less and less the case. i know a few places where it still happens, but it ain't what it used to be with almost every massage ending with an inquiry into whether i wanted a little more. maybe stupid tourists are now tipping so much for regular massages that they no longer need to through the long stroke into their repertoire. who knows? any info on cheap jack shacks open during the day are appreciated.

the city is littered with 10000 riel massage places. anyone who travel around will see dozens. some offer extras, some don't. the ones on the riverside heading toward the japanese bridge and some toward the end of sothearos usually offer extras along with traditional massage, cupping and that weird coin rubbing they do. these are real dumps and the beds are only separated by thin pieces of wood, if that. one place i visited the girls slept and massaged in the same room. locals pay $3 for a massage with hand finish. foreigners can be asked for as much as 30 for basic extras if they don't negotiate hard in advance which can be a real pain. they usually don't have any oil either, so it's dry or with generic tiger balm (ouch!).

cambodian ktvs:

probably 100 around phnom penh. easy place to get some action if you can speak the language. usually a better looking selection that what you see in the foreigner-oriented bars. not much money to get a room with some girls, a case of beer and some food. if the girl likes you they can go out with you or meet you later. some want money, others don't. mostly locals, but i've had no problem accessing any of these places and i've seen plenty of koreans in them too.

restaurants:

i've seen these places mentioned here on the forum as 'beer gardens' but no khmer will know what you are talking about if you say that. they refer to these as restaurants, same as a place you'd get food. easy to find, these are basically places with lots of seating that serve alcohol and have dancing and usually some kind of live music. there are plenty of women on stand by to sit with you. usually you would have one sit with you, but you can have more if you want. they will share your pitcher of beer and talk to you. if they like you enough you can negotiate time with them outside. can be very inexpensive. i've sat in these places for hours with two girls, thrown back beer after beer, eating food, and still paid less than 20 bucks, including tip. girls that go home with you will be happy with 20. they are all over town, but i've been to five pretty regularly. no problem giving locations to posters who pm me, though i won't broadcast here on the forum.

street walkers:

the bottom of the barrel in phnom penh. the main places are around w at phnom and streets 104 and 108 (freedom park). most have problems which could be drugs, pimps, or anything else. don't expect much and quite possible to have your pockets cleaned out at any time during the 'date. ' going rate is 5 dollars or less, plus whatever the guest house costs.

still seeking info:

i've been here for a while and have plenty of local friends and contacts, but i'm still looking for info on a few things. the vietnamese ktvs around phsar chas and kandal for one. i know they have girls but i don't know how the system works. i've been in some but that was with family parties. apparently they are duel purpose. also the barbershops with super sexy women working. i know extras are available to be negotiated in at least some of these places, but haven't found which ones or the method of action. would love some help.

Member #4349

02-04-14, 03:42

Great report, readable, understandable and comprehensive. Thanks.

BronzeMan

02-04-14, 03:43

A good option are the ones in Sothearos Blvd, oil massage is 6-7$ but the girl will ask 10-20$ for a HJ, sometimes.

15-20$ is ok for a BBBJ depends on the girl.

The massage is usually bad but the girls are pretty and the place is spotless and smelling good.

Cheap massages : I don't think tourist would dare to try but there's plenty of 2$ massages near the port and at the southern end of Sothearos Blvd.

Usually it's 2-3$ including a HJ, but they don't do Oil massage, you better bring your own lube or they will do a "dry" HJ or use a tanning lotion or even shampoo.

Massages are terrible in these places and the girls are clueless, in any case with just 3-5$ you can have sex.My results have been a lot different.

Almost half of the places on Sothearos offered no extras. All the massages were pretty good though. Those were usually the better looking shops with the better looking women. The others usually offered handy but started quoting as high as 25 even though I speak Khmer. It's usually possible to get it down to 10, but never any lower than that, even when I said "never mind then no extra massage."

So it can be as much as 28 or 33 for a regular massage with a handy. That's not much off the massage and full service you can get from the fishbowls. The only time its worth it to me is if they can do some really mind blowing hand work. There's one girl at Panda who can. Some others I know are pretty good, but nothing out of this world. Also some real mechanical jackers about. I've never been offered BBBJ at these places either.

The best real massage I had was at the huge "East Massage" complex (not the one in BKK1, the other) , which has mainland Chinese girls who don't speak a lick of the local language. It surely looks like a place you could get some extras, but in my experience sadly it isn't.

The cheap 10000 riel massage places on Sothearos are also hit or miss. I've been offered extras in some but not at all in others. Sometimes it was totally impossible as I was massaged in a room full of Khmer girls!

Would love any advice, public or via PM, on where to get a cheap rub and tug. I used to have some places that did that or BBBJ and it was no more than $10-12 all in. Sadly they are gone and I'm now without such easy action.

BronzeMan

02-04-14, 03:49

Looks like I can get PMs now, so feel free to fire away.

you can find Chinese girls at the bar in the back of the Royal Phnom Penh Hotel and across the street from the Korean embassy, there is a place with some nice Korean girls.What is the Royal Phnom Penh Hotel? Do you mean the Raffles Hotel Le Royal, the Royal Inn Hotel on Sothearos, or something else?

You also mentioned a place 'across the street from the South Korean embassy' for some high quality action. I've been down that road and in that embassy many times but I'm not familiar with that place at all. What are we talking about here? A KTV, a massage parlor, what?

Thanks

Traveler1234

02-04-14, 17:57

Loco is a new bar with a large staff, most of who are decent in looks. There are few stunners and quite a few only work for drinks. A nice place to have a drink but I've never seen anything I'd want to take out of there.

Great report, the blueprint for PP!
Anyone else visit this new establishment?

AussieGuy100

02-04-14, 20:06

Great report, the blueprint for PP!

Anyone else visit this new establishment?Yes I've been there quite a few times. It's slightly different to most of the other hostess bars. It has smart decor, not sleazy, no deafening hip-hop music, and has amazing clean toilets!

Girls are friendly and don't hassle you for ladydrinks, numbers vary as with most bars, as girls come and go. I've taken a couple of girls out from there and had a lot of fun. I think the previous poster meant that there are two or three girls there working just for ladydrinks and not taking salary. They will definitely go out with you!

The 'african customer' bar across the road from Loco has re-opened as Blue Bird Bar and seems to have just a few skinny looking girls working there. It still has a few Nigerian customers, though their bar of choice is now Sugar Bar in St 144.

Bon Lieu Lin is now called Caramel Bar. Same girls, same slightly faded decor and same average music.

Hooters is now called MMe Bar. Strange name. I think the Khmer owner was trying to spell 'Amy'! Tiny bar but with a friendly bunch of girls.

JohnAccess

02-04-14, 20:47

Anyone ever stay at Green Centre Point Inn? (Reviews on Agoda appear good. Seems not far from mongering area.)Hi,

I stayed there for a week, just after the opening a year or so ago. A large room towards the street. The room was great, but I remember the ac being a bit slow. Great service and friendly staff. Short walk or motoride to many bars etc. Girl friendly too.

John

Gangles

02-05-14, 04:05

Ripple67

02-05-14, 14:08

Hey guys I'm in PP this week (leaving Saturday before the smell from the uncollected trash gets too overbearing) I'm not primarily here to monger, but its a good diversion in the evenings and much more fun with a wingman. Anyone fancy meeting tomorrow or Friday?

Nick

IamJohnGalt

02-06-14, 03:12

Hi,

I stayed there for a week, just after the opening a year or so ago. A large room towards the street. The room was great, but I remember the ac being a bit slow. Great service and friendly staff. Short walk or motoride to many bars etc. Girl friendly too.

JohnThanks, John,

I will check it out in person about Feb 16th, and likely stay for a while after a trip up to Siam reap.

Iamjohn

Ppfrequentv

02-06-14, 04:51

Hi,

I mostly post on Philippines site, but I will be in Cambodia in about a month.

We have gotten a number of travel advisories here in Australia about political turbulence in Phnom Penh.

Is this true?

Is the place safe for mongerers?

Thanks in anticipation,

GanglesAll is fine. Just use common sense and stay away from any big gatherings / demonstrations during the day. I've only heard about more robberies around St. 51 but that could be due to recent Chinese new year.

Check again before you go but as it stands now, no problems whatsoever for mongers.

Jirawelo

02-06-14, 08:11

Hi,

I mostly post on Philippines site, but I will be in Cambodia in about a month.

We have gotten a number of travel advisories here in Australia about political turbulence in Phnom Penh.

Is this true?

Is the place safe for mongerers?

Thanks in anticipation,

GanglesPP is very safe. The protests are usually at Freedom Park a little way out of the main tourist village in the city centre.

Sometimes they barricade off around the Royal Palace when they want to petition the King. So if you stay away from the protest areas then all is fine. Just a little extra traffic congestion. Most people including Khmers juat want to get on with their own business.

So enjoy.

Cheers

IamJohnGalt

02-09-14, 09:33

Any recommendation of a reliable pharmacy in PP for the mongers favorite 'vitamins'?

Sammon

02-09-14, 16:30

Any recommendation of a reliable pharmacy in PP for the mongers favorite 'vitamins'?Go to any Pharmacy. They sell generic Indian Viagra. Works very well. Some charge more, some less. Go to few pharmacies and ask.

Faidenk

02-10-14, 05:30

Go to any Pharmacy. They sell generic Indian Viagra. Works very well. Some charge more, some less. Go to few pharmacies and ask.There are 3 pharmacies north of Phsar Thmey, on St 136. I buy mine at any one of these, out of habit. There are at least 5 more pharmacies along this stretch.

Used to buy Kamagra at $1.50- $1.70 for a pack of 4 x 100mg tabs but it seems it is no longer on the market so I switched to Aurogra, works fine just the same, for $1.50. There are also the Kamagra gel, for about $2. 00 for 1 sachet (100mg) equivalent to 1 x 100mg tab. Also available are the generic Cialis, can't remember the names but it invariably ends with. Lis. Costs slightly more than the Aurogra (also for a box of 4 x 20mg).

Viagra sold at some larger pharmacies like U-Care retails for about $8 (4 x 100mg), if I remember correctly. The generics works just as well, unless you own some Pfizer shares.

Good luck and play it safe.

IamJohnGalt

02-11-14, 01:01

MutantChicken

02-16-14, 05:08

Anyway.

Hotel Paris, was told no massage.

Hotel Luxury I went at 1pm, all old and fattyis, I'll check later at night see how that goes.

Mean Huar. Went around 1pm 3 oldies not my type.

Yang Chou again not my types but if I had to choose maybe 1-2.

Soul. I got a 8-9pointer. Start at 100usd a bargain down to 40usd. Ok service not the best but for a attractive girl 6usd for the room.

Cheapy massage around st 80-40. I saw a few locals go in so I followed 3000 real for 1hr massage in filthy enviroment, offered a HJ for 10usd or boom boom outside in hotels for 100k real. But she wasnt very attrarctive prob a 5 so I passed on both.

New century massage on monivong st 400ish. Just massage no extras by plain girl 10usd / hr.

Local massage joint on st 310. 6 USD / hr massage no extra offered I dint ask because older type, but I did grab her tits and she joke around.

Checked all the bars on 104stree. 108 and 110 street, only a few acceptible. Very quiet. Def not a treasure trove of hottties. The hottest ones definately found in soul.

Also checked out the beer bar on norodom towards the bridge going to highway 1. Tipped her 10k on a 70k meal consisting of fried rice prawn dish and 6 beers asked her if she will sleep with me she replied she cannot. Seem hit and miss best reserved for long term residents.

Tried out the hot tocs on kampochea crom. I didn't see any hot girls mentioned my other I wnet in one that didn't have male touts standing outside, didn't see nay decent looking girls I spoke Vietnamese and asked for a hair wash. Cost 2 dolalrs, wasnt offered anything neither did I want anything given the appearance of the girls

Ripple67

02-17-14, 12:36

Recently spent a few days in Phnom Phen. Had a couple of opps to monger. Visited Cyrcee on Street 49 one evening. 20 or so girls available. I picked one. Called Trainee? The prettiest of the bunch and she really worked hard to ensure I got my rocks off (some WGs just give up and blame you. But she was really focused on customer satisfaction!). $20 0r 25 + bar fine ($10) The next night I picked up a couple of girls from the bar complex on St 51. One was a hooker and her friend a part time wg at the most. One of the girls (the wg) tried to finger my wallet while I was in the shower with her friend but I had sixth sense about this and though I didn't catch her in the act she ended up empty handed. But it spoilt the vibe and the trust. 1 hour with two girls $20 each. + $6 for short term room. Frustrated by this earlier experience I went back to 51 St and picked up a real stunner. I tested my hotel's (Billabong) no guest policy and it turned out that they really meant it (I thought maybe the receptionist was a born again Christian imposing his private morals but no- I had three young Cambodian waiting staff daring me to try to the girl up to my room). But it wasn't that hostile a situation, they just recommended me a short term hotel ($4) at the end of the street.

Anyway this is Lim, probably the prettiest girl I've been with In Cambodia, a bit of a starfish but she was up for photos and did yum yum (albeit perfunctorily). Or it would be Lim if this site was photo upload friendly! Seems I have to reduce photo sizes before uploading, which is definitely a job for tomorrow.

Ripple67

02-17-14, 12:50

Man its a pain in the ass having to manually compress photos individually. Guess it saves Jackson's bandwidth. In the interests of sharing here's a few photos of opticfick / starfish Lim

Sammon

02-17-14, 14:15

There are 3 pharmacies north of Phsar Thmey, on St 136. I buy mine at any one of these, out of habit. There are at least 5 more pharmacies along this stretch.

Used to buy Kamagra at $1. 50- $1. 70 for a pack of 4 x 100mg tabs but it seems it is no longer on the market so I switched to Aurogra, works fine just the same, for $1. 50. There are also the Kamagra gel, for about $2. 00 for 1 sachet (100mg) equivalent to 1 x 100mg tab. Also available are the generic Cialis, can't remember the names but it invariably ends with. Lis. Costs slightly more than the Aurogra (also for a box of 4 x 20mg).

Viagra sold at some larger pharmacies like U-Care retails for about $8 (4 x 100mg) , if I remember correctly. The generics works just as well, unless you own some Pfizer shares.

Good luck and play it safe.For some reason there are all kinds of generic Indian Viagra available. Names like silagra, penagra etc. All works well. 4 x 100 MG costs $2-$4 depending on the pharmacy. Yes, you can negotiate if you are buying a lot.

Initially I bought for $3 a pack in one pharmacy only to find out next pharmacy is selling for $2. So next day I went back there and bought lots of it.

A word of caution. Do not buy nicely packaged Viagra tablets in Phi. They are fake although looks exactly like the original. Generic Indian Viagra is not available in PHI for some reason. Fortunately nobody is making fake copies of generic Indian Viagra. Kamagra is not widely available anymore as it looks like their sales are down. They used to be very popular one time including their jelly version.

BronzeMan

02-17-14, 17:46

Thanks to the kind words in regards to my recent post on the current scene in Phnom Penh. It would be nice if someone would be so kind as to point to it from the reports of distinction thread. The offer still stands to let senior members who ask via PM know of some locations.

Anyone get any good service at Paradise Massage / barber (think that's the name) next to the guest house across the street from Cyrcee lately? Lots of reports of HJ and BJ action there for cheap. When I visited twice, had to wait in line. Private room with beds. Thought I'd get something with nude oil massage, but not even a hint of action either time. What's the deal?

MutantChicken

02-19-14, 06:37

Updates and observations feb 2014.

I was told bar Top Ten was one of the better ones, the first time I went there was a very attractive taller girl, but she was like ice queen so didn't call her over as I expected her to be " uncooperative". Yesterday I decided to test my assumption, and true to my guess, she doesn't barfine, he name is Srey Mao. 26yr old def the best looker in the bar, has worked there for 2 yrs but within 1month of working was sponsored by a 38yr old American of questionable work practice. So guys avoid her if you want to barfine, she also isn't a great conversatioonalist though is suitably friendly if you want your 4dollar LD to be platonic conversations.

I went to Mao bar and there is in my view the most beautifal bar girl / hostess working there def a 9 even a 10 there. She was sitting on the lap of a barang when I got there and he had the look on his face of the cat that swallowed the canary, he was the king at that time. When I came in she was friendly and greeted me but didn't leave her barang as there was a glass full LD slips to attest to his dedication to her (100usd worth min in my guessimate) There is also a few pleasant ladies also there.

I needed to use the toilet and when I came back there where 2 new customers, or unknown Asian origin, only when they spoke k'mai did I know. What I did notice was that the 9 girl left her barang and was flirting heavily with the kymer. When I got a chance I spoke to the two men and was told one was a high level executive in Cambodia biggest computer company, the other was some kind of governemt minister, I looked over and the barang was check bin and he looked like he was about to cry hahah. I joked with the two men that they made the barang very sad hahah The lesson learnt is we can never beat rich Cambodian men at their own games, and don't let the pretty women milk us for drinks as lots of times it would lead nowhere.

MutantChicken

02-19-14, 06:39

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MutantChicken

02-19-14, 06:45

I remember someone asked about these places, I can confirm that the barbar shops just offer haircuts wash hair etc, also the girls not attractive. I got a hairwash for 2dollars. The ktv on 118 st is just that karaoke, no girls available. The KTV on 49street I see offer girls but I haven't figured out pricing structure yet.

MutantChicken

02-19-14, 06:49

Sunday I was in the 130 street, sharkies which is terrible now, looked at loco, then looked in 136 street, best 136 bar. 136 bar, sizzler Lemon Oasis.

In the daytime I was very bored. Checked out candy bar. Avoid, also walkabout. Bad. And Golden Sooya mall. At 5pm, didn't see any freelancers.

I might be called a cheap charlie, but I usually only buy 1 lady drink before I want to check out other girls, and I gte tired of hugging the smae girl so my costs is like 2-5 dollars if I buy a LD, but I also check out 6-7 bars a day, so to be honest I forget where the hot looking girls are hahah. I would remember when I check it out again, but because earlier in the day I check out the massage parlour. Sunday I checked out yang chou. Cost 6+ 25 for a viet girl. Not bad. But she claimed to be an chay so no BJ just licking tentatively outside. Hotel luxury definatly not good for me, but mean hiur seens to be decent if go after 6pm.

Also checked out a 24hr massage on Rue France down from casa called Marrou. Opt for 8usd opil massage the girl looks ok she tease my dick then wanted 20usd for HJ, I said for 20 I can boom boom. But she still stroke my dick feels good just not nuff to cum. So when I go I pay 8usd tip her 100kreal.

BronzeMan

02-20-14, 01:37

Riverstar

02-20-14, 02:55

There I was sitting at Nordic House on St 136 enjoying a early evening beer and enjoying the local talent when there she was standing across the street talking with friends with her beautiful slender legs disappearing in to a short ra ra skirt and my mind went into overdrive.

Fantasying what lay beneath that skirt and imagining a pair of skimpy form fitting camel toe hugging panties when a gust of wind blew lifting the skirt to reveal a not so form fitting pair of black shorts. Oh well It was the thought that counts so back to my beer.

MutantChicken

02-20-14, 04:03

I also went to Shanghai bar, the quality of girls isn't great if only that they hire slim girls. I was sitting and joking with them I didn't buy any lady drinks as I didn't fancy any. And then a barang came in and he was swamped by 5-6 girls, I asked the other girls left there who he is, she said she doesn't know just that he buys lots of drinks, I'm not so sure I'd be happy known as the guy who has to buy drinks to get attention.

I visit again mean Huar. Chose a attractive viet gal #12 a 7, good BBBJ I told them I didn't want the two room proceedure so paid 6+30r rather than the extra 6 for the token massage.

I also revisited Yang Chau. First time I paid 6+25 for a viet, this time I chose kymer (7) paid 30 all inclusive. Seems this is the cheapest I can bargain down to.

I also found some local cheap fuckshops. Paid 15 dolars for boom boom. The original pricing was 3usd for fan room massage and 5 dollar for aircom. Looks comparable to baby fat cambo girls (a 6) in the bars but not exactly my type once the clothes came off. Bad skin, I was there to mainly explore. Name was massage 53 BTW start price was 35usd for boom boom.

In another area found massage 99, 5 dollar massage, boom boom with cute viet girl (7) was 20+5, I bargain down to 10+5. This girl much more attractive and better skin. More value in my mind. She also told me she used to work at casa where she charged 60usd for ST.

I also drove around the freelancer street girls. Most undesirable but I say a few hotties like 7-8 cost 10-20usd didn't bargain too hard so maybe lower.

MutantChicken

02-20-14, 04:15

This week I had a opportunity to try out these three places.

HOD I was there at 10pm when it was dead and then revisited it at 12 when it was picking up, not sure when it will be filled with freelancers but when is was there I only saw prob 5-6, and they where slim possibly decent body, but too old for me being closer to 30 than 20, plus not sure if it was gay night but it was filled with gay kymer men and plump ngo type girls.

I then went to Casa, this place is more like viet style disco, with girls avail for hostessing and from my observations and enquires, available for takeout, cost is 60usd St and 100usd LT. Its filled with malaysian Chinese. Admittedly the quality of the girls here much higher than the expat bars. But also the pricing is double or triple. Considering I took a cute viet ST for 15 dollars who told me she used to work at Casa charging 60st, I think its not advisable to pay 4times the price. The girls here are all under 30. More 18-24yr range.

Darling darling. This place full of better looking girls than the bar. Generally the quality of the better looking bar girls on average, ages early 20's to late 20's. My unbargained price enquirey was 100usd st 150lt, I had heard that some have got girls for 50usd LT, but I think that would only apply to the plain girls / hungrier girls or you would have to wait to the early morning where a 3-4am pick up isn't really long time anymore.

MutantChicken

02-20-14, 05:00

Re: Mutant Chicken's reports.

The hostess bars aren't really "point and click" meat markets. Customers have to try to build some kind of rapport with the girls before they will go out. There are some exceptions, but it's usually the least attractive ones. Cyrcee is the exception and it's pretty easy to get staff out of Island too. Many of the girls in the hostess bars go out once a month or never. I knew one who worked the bar circuit for two years and is still a virgin waiting for a prince charming with 5000 bucks to give her family for marriage.

Candy and Walkabout are terrible even at night in my opinion. During the day, forget about it. The best options during the day are the fishbowls around town or maybe Nay Nay for the less adventurous (though you shouldn't expect much at the latter). If you know a good 10, 000 Riel massage shop those are open early too. Plenty on the riverside around W at Phnom...I just wanted to preface this by saying that this is my own experiences, I speak vietnamese and I have lived in Vietnam for 6 yrs, I have only been here 3 times 1 month each time I was here in 2009, 2011, and now.

Back in 2009 and 2011, I had no problems barfining attractive girls. And the guys I went with also had no problems. It was just a question of agreeing on price. I've been at that time Shanghai was known as a no barfine bar.

One thing that I have learnt living here in Asia and interacting with the locals is when men talk about getting action, a lot of times its hearsay, they they heard someone getting getting xyz unless they give me specifics or recounting the experience first hand I would question everything, and I would assume it to be the case here.

I have talked to local young kymer men and tuk tuk drivers and local viet men and viet tuk tuk drivers, and when asked about vice related activities they would point me to the 4 fishbowls, and KTV's.

Your comments about girls not being a point and click market must be a relatively new developments, and I would guess its partly due to the acceptance by guys here to accept that new norm. Sorry if I offend anyone, but if you have a 20ish girl being chased after by a 50ish often overweight male. Who is more than willing to spend 50usd in LD to build rapport, then yes why would she want to go boom boom. I mean yesterday I was at black cat and I saw a youngish but overweight guy barfine two ladies from there but the thing was he was paying 80usd each. And these ladies was both older and one was even fat!

I'll say that in this trip I have just used the services of the fishbowl as by 10pm I'm tired and I want to sleep alone so I haven't really looked for female company from the bars, I have as I mentioned gone in hugged for the length of a LD which is normally 1hr, Alot of times with that one drink I'm lip kissing and fondling there breasts, so maybe I'm being overly presumptious to think that action means they would be willing to go barfine. I will tets my theory tonight and I will again post.

As I mentioned I have have found two daytime 10k real massage places where its possible to boom boom girls 5-6/10 girls for 15usd, I even found a 7 viet for 15usd.

I reported the kampochea crom / 118st barbar shops and the 118 KTV because that was asked of me, the kampochea crom / 118st barbar shops I can definately assure you because I asked in vietnamese if there was anything else available. Not that even if there was I would partake as the girls very plain.

The 118 KTV, one is called happy family KTV, the other is more dodgy, I actually went through the whole place and I asked the guys if there was any girls to accompany me whilst I sing. These guys weren't Vietnamese tho so I asked in English. I am pretty sure there are no activities in the 118st KTV because on street 49 down from lecycee tere are KTV where there are girls sitting outside, as are most other ktvs around the city, that is a clear indication that girls are availbale for your company. Seems pointless that girls are available but they are hidden away, regardless of how many local kymers have told me otherwise.

I don't know about the barbershop around town nor the KTV on 136 street, but my sex sense inst tingling when I look at them, and at most they would just be offering hand relief in my mind.

I agree with you that it seems local men are getting there action for 10k real places or from the KTV, just look at st 2004 and street 1986 and the tol kork area and you will see 1000's of KTV many offering starting packages ie beer and room for 30usd.

If you pm me the local of these skimpy dressed big breasted barber shops I would be more than willing to test it out for you.

As to the top ten girls. No the girls I'm talking about is pure kymer, her name is Srey Mao. Its tatooed on her left wrist and she says her name is Amao. I only tested her to see if she bar fines because I assumed she didn't given her aloofness. And not sure how much I should beleive this, but when I said I was sad she didn't barfine she pointed out her Vietnamese friends who did barfine as she knew I was Vietnamese.

I suppose the purpose of my response was to first of all clarify my posts was from actual experience and from someone who speaks Vietnamese where viet establishments apply and isn't from just hearsay or speculation. Secondly like with most things, its never black and white, I could get barfines 100% of the time and someone else might have to build rapport, it doenst mean that the truth is on either side of the equation.

My view on this matter is that as men, if we allow women to have a comfortable life earning money from LD then they will never boom boom. I was in smile girl and tehre was actually two attractive girls tehre, but as soon as she asked me for a second LD I told her no and that was it. I don't see why as some guys have mentioned that some girls need to slave away for 150 USD a month or less and these girls can 5-10 USD a day or 150-300usd a month for just sitting there and talking. I am a guy who in my professional capacity gets paid 100's a hr, now I am forced to pay a girl to sit and talk with me. No I agree that if a girl talks with me and I enjoy her company it would be fair that I compensate her for her time.

End rant.

BronzeMan

02-20-14, 17:55

IamJohnGalt

02-22-14, 04:06

Just wondering where to get the best value western breakfast around PP. The hotel bfast at Nana-Circuit is cold eggs and toast, so I don't recommend it.

The corner "french" bakery type restaurant on 51 st a block south of 154 is a decent choice though for about $5 including espresso / cappucino.

You guys have other recommendations? Any good buffets like the hotels in Bangkok serve?

Hatguy

02-22-14, 10:58

MutantChicken

02-24-14, 09:17

I speak Khmer and this is after all Cambodia. I'm sure you could find out more about the Viet places though. It's all perspective as you say.

The hostess bars aren't the same as they were 5 or even 2 years ago in my opinion. There are still lots of good finds to be had but you have to float through numerous bars to get to them. I usually do a few rounds every 3 months or so just to see what's new. I also have some old friends who work the bars and update me on new girls that would be to my liking.

Don't put all your trust in tuk tuk drivers. For years they took guys to the St 63 massage shops were getting your pants cleaned out was almost certain...Thanks for the pm, however as I explained I got bored and have left pp however I would like to address some of the comments made and the sights I have seen.

I'm not sure if you guys remember a poster named Thatasshole. He was a true explorer and to this day I haven't seen another poster quite like him. He would simply go into a new town, chat up with a motodop / tuk tuk driver and get local intel, he would pay him for the fare, get the "going rate"then later go there alone and bargain below "the going rate". This is what I have done where I cannot find things out myself driving around using my "sex-sense".

The reason I use motodopes tuk tuks or I befriend young guys then use them as my guide is that these guys are poor and if they know then they will know cheap local places. It would be pointless to ask business men with their VIP service because they don't frequent these places as they will be directing me to diamond or xo or x2 or the multitude of high or mid end KTV where the price of a girl is between 50-100usd. That in my mind is way to easy. Conversely no offense to bronzeman or the others who have posted about beer gardens, but in my view fishing from these places is much too like dating.

The guys reading this forum in my mind would be newbies who have very little experiece with pp, and so want to know where they can get a definate bonk and at what price. Or they will be sexpats who want to know new fishing spots as the old places have been ruined by the newbies.

My experience reading about beer gardens was that you can go there eat food then tip the girls 2-3usd and ask the girl for sex costing 30usd, this is so far from the truth unless you are especially handsome or more importantly found a girl that has urgent bills. After experiencing them and asking locals, it has been clarified that these girls need to be wooed, ie go a few times build rapport and tip then about 10usd each time to show face etc.

The poster posting about how he went to the beergarden / barbarshop and after going a few times then dating her and then having to pay nothing, has about as much relevance to this forum, as me posting about the times I have picked up women in banks, doctor surgery or shopping malls taking them on dates then finally getting it for "free"". That in my mind is called dating and has no value on a mongering site as it really would not be that much useful to the majority of readers.

I think both I and Bronzeman have differeing ideas of what is hot, I have driven past the barbarshop on Kampchea crom probably at least 14-15 times during my time here, and admittedly I didn't go in all 6-7 shops, but looking at the girls sitting outside on the breaks, or looking at the girl observable through the clear glass. Often with these women they are good from afar but far from good. And if I didn't see any that was good from afar, then I can presume they wouldn't be many attractive girl. To my defence I can say I went in two shops around that area, one on 118 street the other on kampochea crom, and these didn't have any hot women. Again to answer bronzeman question about hollywood barbarshop on st 49 next to the guest house opp le cycee. I went there, saw a plain girl went in asked about massage was given a even more plainer girl. At that stage I reversed and walked out. I'm my view if Bronzeman who is a expat, speaks kymer cannot get extras from those plain janes at Hollywood, then I can safely assume no extras can be found there especially from your standard short time visitor.

I also when to the viet karaoke on Preah anh eng or chan reacheah. They have the words hat voi nhau. In Vietnamese it means sing togther, and it has a different meaning to kareoke in vietname, I wnet in and I saw the standard communal room, where you sit and possible "hug" the hostess, but I asked if there was a private room in vietnamese, I was asked how many in my gp, when I said I was alone they said no no no private room. Now in my mind if there was definate services available hen regardless if I was with a gp or was alone they would have offered a private room. In vn the clean kareokes don't offer private rooms to couples and they are afraid the privacy would open up avenues of intimacy. Thats not saying its not possible to get extras using the pathway of dating, but definately its not standard offering. I have been in vn too long to believe there was anything dodgy offered as standard practice at this viet kareoke.

Back to the issue of the hostess bars not being the point and click meat markets, in my experience I asked 5 girls from 5 different bars and all was available for ST a few was only avail for Lt. Admittedly all these girls were attractive girl who approached me, I'm sure if I asked girls who didn't approach me and thus wasnt physically attracted to me then that would be a different scenario. But I agree there are definately more girls working just for LD and the 10usd a day salary I was told she gets. If this is true I can see why there isn't much a incentive to barfine.

Finally I was taken around by a local and I found 3 distinct areas that can be called "chicken farms" around pp, the first closer to the river side had two kymer girls both 7's was offered them 30usd each in my mind its negotiable as these are for local consumption. The second area had older of plumper kymer girls might be able to find a diamond in the rough cost 10usd. The final area would be classified as a gem, it was filled with girls that I would call 7's, it is quite far from the central I was quoted 20usd but I think its possible to negotiate down. I won't be revealing these locations as I feel this would only result in the ruination of these locations, but suffice to say that if you are a sexplorer then you can I find the hidden gems in pp.

IamJohnGalt

02-27-14, 06:36

WARNING. Do not stay at Green Centrepoint Hotel.

I believe the staff are professional thieves.

I made the mistake of leaving jewelry in a 'hidden' pocket of a Masterlock padlocked suitcase, and it was opened and relocked after jewelry was removed.

Video showed only hotel cleaners entered the room (or the locked window was entered outside the video view.)

Police could not accuse anyone because there were 2 cleaners together.

Don't give them opportunity to steal from you.

Gorgon

02-27-14, 23:45

AskeAske

02-28-14, 18:42

Back after my third visit to Cambodia. In PP I only BF one girl from a bar in street 104 first night. BF 10 dollar, girl 20 dollar ST. Rest time in PP I spend with my regular freebie GF. Very easy to find good girl in PP, so why pay? I love Cambodia.

Gone Around

03-01-14, 02:01

I think I had previously endorsed Beeline. I no longer do so. While they have a 1 GB. 30-day package for $ 3 USD, it's 2. 5G or Edge network. Quite slow. Further, I'm not getting a reasonable connection when around Phnom Penh itself. Especially downtown.

I now recall, that last year I was using Cellcard and even in Kep it worked okay. I don't recall if it was 3G or not. Also, it was $ 2 USD a week with not so many annoying SMS.

I've heard some others mentioned Mobifone and Smart as viable options.

Good luck and please report back.

For Vietnam, I'll stay stay away from Vinaphone. Go with the slightly pricier Mobitel or Mobiphone named option for 3G service that actually works around Saigon and the Nang.

Gone Around

03-01-14, 02:04

While food and drink prices seem about the same as the year's past at Martini Pub. Girls are asking for a bit more. Some of the newer spinners are asking initially $ 40 for short time though $ 25 is acceptable. I've gone back to just taking the gal and then giving $ 20 plus maybe $ 5 for moto when done.

Also, I couldn't believe it, the Greenstar Guest House is freaking cleaned up. New paint, a good scrubbing, wow. Room 111 would be good enough for spending the night if needing a seriously cheap place to flop.

IamJohnGalt

03-02-14, 06:22

Check youtube for what locksmiths think of masterlock. Won't help you now but will in the future.The police professed amazement that a US sourced lock could be easily opened by a cleaning girl.

I usually take anything police say with a kilo of salt.

IamJohnGalt

03-02-14, 06:31

i think i had previously endorsed beeline. i no longer do so. while they have a 1 gb. 30-day package for $ 3 usd, it's 2. 5g or edge network. quite slow. further, i'm not getting a reasonable connection when around phnom penh itself. especially downtown.

i now recall, that last year i was using cellcard and even in kep it worked okay. i don't recall if it was 3g or not. also, it was $ 2 usd a week with not so many annoying sms.

i've heard some others mentioned mobifone and smart as viable options.

good luck and please report back.

for vietnam, i'll stay stay away from vinaphone. go with the slightly pricier mobitel or mobiphone named option for 3g service that actually works around saigon and the nang.looked for beeline in pp but couldn't find near 51 st so bought a sim at smart store. it has worked fine for me in pp and siam reap. don't use data very much so can't compare for speed, but web pages with photos refresh reasonably, (supposedly 3g service.) paid $6 for sim plus $5 credit (good for 30 days) , used $1 for data. they gave $5 bonus credits for within network use plus bonus 100min+100sms+100mb in network for 30 days, too.

BronzeMan

03-02-14, 12:14

Smart is the best. It's cheap, they have 3G all over the country, they are always giving you bonuses, and you can find their cards everywhere. I spend about $5 a month and I call, text and surf the web daily.

You can actually get your sim card for free if you top it up at the time. Usually secondary sellers try to get whatever they can out of unwitting tourists, which is why their sim prices are negotiable. If you don't want to show a passport you may have no option but to pay.

Gone Around

03-02-14, 17:17

looked for beeline in pp but couldn't find near 51 st so bought a sim at smart store. it has worked fine for me in pp and siam reap. don't use data very much so can't compare for speed, but web pages with photos refresh reasonably, (supposedly 3g service.) paid $6 for sim plus $5 credit (good for 30 days) , used $1 for data. they gave $5 bonus credits for within network use plus bonus 100min+100sms+100mb in network for 30 days, too.fwiw. cellcard is 3. 5g. i should've gone with that service or smart that touts 4g. my beeline is okay, but edge (2g) is slow and annoying, but better than nothing when i have no other choice.

Gone Around

03-02-14, 17:34

I still think Martini Pub is a more enjoyable place than most other options around Sorya Golden Mall. However, the girls are starting to get more business like or semi-pushy in a way they hadn't in past years. Still, I'm having a good time.

Also, $ 40 seems to be pretty common for initial short time asking rate these days. $ 25 seems to be the frequent agreement. Shining Star Guest Hotel down the street for $ 5 is a decent deal if you're hotel isn't guest friendly.

Maybe if you're around the girls more, you might get back into $ 15 to $ 20 of years past, but I think those times are gone.

Riverstar

03-03-14, 04:29

I love eating pussy especially a cute pussy with nice full lips which I can suck all night but I still dream of finding a girl who also has clit big enough not only to lick but to get my lips around and suck, the problem is that until you get the girl home and her kit off you never know what hidden delights you may or may not find.

Every girl I have met in Cambodia has a phone with a camera so I think we should start a campaign for all girls to keep a photo of their pussy on their phone so you know what you will be getting, this will also be a great advantage for the girls with the best pussy's as they will have a bargaining tool to raise the LT or ST rate

Riverstar

03-03-14, 08:55

I first came to Phnom Penh just over eight years ago to work in the days when the bar scene was more relaxed, more fun and more affordable that it is now. I was working with two colleagues and we all stayed in the same hotel which was not only guest friendly but also had some very friendly staff, my colleagues quickly established regular girlfriends however I was very happy playing the field. One evening one of the girls suggested visiting a karaoke joint a few doors from the hotel and on arrival we were joined by two hostesses one of which I immediately took a shine to, dark skinned and taller than the average Khmer girl she looked stunning. At the end of the evening she readily agreed to come back with me and when I undressed her WOWW! She was the most attractive and most sexy girl that I had ever had then or now and also a spirited and energetic lover.

I had to get up early for work in the morning but still had time for a quickie and when I was taking a shower she fell back asleep, she looked so beautiful lying in my bed I didn't have the heart to wake her, so leaving $25 (we had agreed$20) next to the bed I quietly closed the door and went to work.

Arriving back from work I secretly hoped that she would still be there but unfortunately the bed was empty so I hung around the hotel that evening hoping that she would turn up but to no avail so the following evening I called at the karaoke bar only to find out that she had returned to her village to see her family. I never did see her again despite looking over several months, but I have never forgot that night

BronzeMan

03-03-14, 09:34

Maybe if you're around the girls more, you might get back into $ 15 to $ 20 of years past, but I think those times are gone.Still quiet achievable friend, with several different methods. But for what's available there I'd rather look elsewhere in the city. Same rates with better looking girls is available, and much better looking girls available for only a little more.

If you're into the Pattaya-type outdoor beer bar scene more than the girls specifically though I could see how you would like it.

To each his own.

Gone Around

03-04-14, 02:04

Still quiet achievable friend, with several different methods. But for what's available there I'd rather look elsewhere in the city. Same rates with better looking girls is available, and much better looking girls available for only a little more.

If you're into the Pattaya-type outdoor beer bar scene more than the girls specifically though I could see how you would like it.

To each his own.I like the open air restaurants AKA beer gardens, KTV, and joints like Martini Pub. The smaller confined places near Sorya and the riverside leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. However, there's getting to be too many lecherous looking old farts at some of the places I go, so I'm working my way to more local venues.

One thing is for sure, any price is possible, but I do think $ 20 to $ 25 is quite fair considering I can readily afford it and it's still about half what home is.

IamJohnGalt

03-04-14, 04:35

AussieGuy100

03-07-14, 02:27

I'd like to take a FL girl I met in PP to Serendipity BEach for a few days. ST been paying her $20 for good service (but not GFE.)

Whats a fair price to offer a FL P4P gal for a 3 or 4 day trip to the beach?

OTOH, if the P4P scene in Sihanoukville is decent for GFE please advise.

I'm still open to finding a girl at the beach and saving the PP girl for PP.

Thanks, IamJohnAnything from $25-40 a day would be fair, depending on how happy you were with her.
Plus perhaps some modest shopping, and obviously meals.

AskeAske

03-07-14, 17:14

I'd like to take a FL girl I met in PP to Serendipity BEach for a few days. ST been paying her $20 for good service (but not GFE.)

Whats a fair price to offer a FL P4P gal for a 3 or 4 day trip to the beach?

OTOH, if the P4P scene in Sihanoukville is decent for GFE please advise.

I'm still open to finding a girl at the beach and saving the PP girl for PP.

Thanks, IamJohnWhy bring FL from PP to Sihanoukville, if she is not GFE. Go to Sihanoukville and take girl from bars at Golden Lion or bars at Victory Hill. Easy to find girl, very GFE. 10 dollar BF and 30 dollar for the girl a day.

Scorpion1000

03-27-14, 18:37

Hello,

Apparently the Hout Macau Beauty Salon on Monivong and the Hout Macau Beauty Saloon 2 near Mao Tse Tung Road. Closed. Does anybody have more information where the girls work now?

Thanks,

Scorpion1000

Hatguy

03-28-14, 02:28

It's a long ride to Sihanoukville. I took a girl with me for company. Thirty bucks is heaps when you also pay for her food etc.

Gorgon

04-01-14, 16:43

AussieGuy100

04-02-14, 11:45

Gorgon

04-02-14, 18:02

This is very unusual. You could go back and tell the French Algerian boss about your experience. He is very strict with the girls there and will deal with her ruthlessly.I will acknowledge that that sounds fair, I am not up to code on what goes or does not go in what places here in PP. I'm sure the girl told of my supposed bleeding aids pustules or something back in the bar so I'm burned there for a while I suppose.

Edit: Can "Kdaw thom" be used or will that be to offensive? Phonetics for that would be much appreciated.

BeachBoy46

04-03-14, 01:57

Tried out Cyrcee and it looks like total shit. I negotiated FS and BJ with a slapper called annie or close to it.

She agreed to it all and we went to the guest house across the road. In the room she renegged after the BJ started and she refused any kind of FS of any kind. She just didn't give a shit and I doubt the retards at Cyrcee that had issues with counting out the change from $20 bill care either. An icehead starfish would have been better value and service.

I would have left if I had been sure of not getting stomped by a group of friendly motos.Had completely opposite experience here. Spent 5 days in PP and had 8 girls-4 from LaCrycee. 1 from Candy Bar. 1 from Sweet Milk. 1 from 69Bar and FL from Golden Soraya Mall (viet). Also a very unusual experience (wierd actually) at a massage joint near riverside.

I will report on each soon but the girls, vibe, etc at LaCyrcee were great. Clean well appointed bar with supercute cashier baby. Wow she was 10/10 but not available. Walk in alone and swamped by a crowd of hotties, beautiful bodys very attractive girls. At least 90% doable. French manager sitting at end of bar keeping an eye on things. Reports later but I took 2x singles and 1double from there over 3 nights at my hotel, no problems BBBJ great GFE. In fact one girl was a 9/10, could easily be a model. Would recommend LaCrycee to all. Reports and experiences of a first timer in Penh to follow. Cheers and regards to all.

BB

FreebieFan

04-03-14, 09:08

). Also a very unusual experience (wierd actually) at a massage joint near riverside.

BBCare to report on what was weird. My last 2 massage events in places near riverside was as vegan as one could get.

BeachBoy46

04-04-14, 01:55

Care to report on what was weird. My last 2 massage events in places near riverside was as vegan as one could get.Hi mate,

I have a problem in that I am a one finger typist so I need lots of spare time to write anything. I am so slow that I have been timed out a few times and lost everything I had written.

Details when I can. When I say wierd it was a very puzzling experience, hot, sexy but I was not satisfied. Confusing? All will be revealed. It was left off riverside in either S130 or S136 before S5. First place on right, girls sitting outside calling you. Not very classy. ($6 hour).

Cheers BB

AussieGuy100

04-04-14, 13:35

Edit: Can "Kdaw thom" be used or will that be to offensive? Phonetics for that would be much appreciated.K'dor tom = big cock. Slang and a bit common, but not really offensive.

K'doey doot = small pussy.

Doh sa'at = beautiful breasts.

TesterTester

04-07-14, 05:45

I have been lazy about adding field reports.

I went to Street 136 in Phnom Penh the other night. Quite a few small bars which remind me of Joo Chiat in Singapore. Shophouse sized bars.

Each bar probably had about 10 girls inside, but most of them were not really interesting to me.

At the second bar from the riverside, bar name starts with an "L" I did take a relatively tall girl, she said she was 165cm, but was wearing 3 inch heels, so she looked taller. Her name was Min.

She was a good performer. Friendly. $10 bar fine is standard on Street 136 and $30-40 for the girl.

It is cheaper than BKK, but a far cry from BKK in terms of variety and atmosphere

BlazeJohnny03

04-11-14, 00:47

Hey there!

I'm going to Cambodia for the frist time and was wondering what the girls over there think is too big or rather too small? I am Asian so our size is well pretty much small; really small. In the phils it really wasn't a problem. The girls there just laughed sometimes or snickered and went about their business. But I'm wondering if khmer girls like smaller sized. Some girls in the phils said they wanted smaller men around 3 to 4 inches. That was perfect for me because that was my size 3 inches. But I'm wondering if anyone out there has been with a girl who wanted a smaller guy?

And I was wondering where you can find milfs in Cambodia? Is there a specific area you can go to find them like the golden Soprya mall?

TesterTester

04-18-14, 03:34

Very informative report

Gajith

04-18-14, 08:38

Hi All,

Went through some of the threads but could not find a recommendation for gf hotel with pool and gym. Anyone has any info? Bgfriendly site says circuit / Nana has pool but within hotel website nothing I could see. I am fine if the hotel has no gym in worst case, but swimming pool is must. Helps will be much appreciated!

Thanks / G

Gorgon

04-18-14, 13:30

Have done 2 fishbowls so far. Luxery was ok, took a viet girl for the novelty of getting one. She was a bit better than plain but cheeky to match a finer lady. She demanded 80 and refused to budge until I was pulling on my pants to leave. Negotiation was over cell phone. Sex was passable, not starfish but no PSE. Easy place to find and no bullshit.

Haur was a nother matter. They refused to budge from the 2 room bullshit so it's 6 bux to open the door to a room and then leave. I suggest if you know you are going to take a lady either way get a key in the reception first. Just say "room 6 dollars please" and they set you up. Then walk upstairs one flight and tell the lady to screw her 6 dollar "massage room" that nobody uses. I chose no 86, plain jane but she had boobs and looked keen. The others not so much. In the room she had some stomach issues but I knew there was going to be with the boobs. She took a long deep hard dicking like a pro and provided decent PSE. My only complaint is that she initiated CIM finish for a higher fee and then renegged. There was no mistake she meant CIM, she said it and signed it in three different ways but when I got there she refused. She claimed the initial BJ was the same as CIM and got loud and agitated when questioned the whole thing. She got louder and louder and the lout outside looked like a no nonsense kind of dude so it was just pay up and gtfo. The kymer BBBJ dream gets me in to shit but what can you do. It's all in the game.

Traveler1234

04-18-14, 14:32

Hi All, but swimming pool is must. Helps will be much appreciated!Great pool here, good location and nice rooms: White Mansion Boutique Hotel. But no idea whether GFE.

KimSokheng

04-19-14, 02:58

Hi there,

A new KTV had just been open at BKK1 and I'm wondering if anybody have been there, from what I know the hostess there are pinoys and it cost $50 for the 1st hour and $30 for subsequent hour which include free flow of beer. I know 1 of the hostess online and she told me that the hostess are not allowed to go out with customers cause they are newly open and maybe in the near future they are allow to go. I wish to go there to have a look but I'm a light drinker so not worth it to go alone, anybody here is interested to join me and we will share the bill. Please pm me if you are interested.

Thanks

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04-19-14, 10:14

KimSokheng

04-19-14, 12:27

Tried for a second tour of luxery fish bowl. When I entered there was a bunch of salary man looking guys and a lot of agitated ladies. The ladies behind the glass was also in some mood. I don't know if this has anything to do with anything. I chose 166 as she was wavy, in the room she cat pawed me and I offered 30 for FS. She pouted and held out. After two turns more I said 30 again, I thought she held out for 40 but her fixed price was sixty! I don't know what kind of reality that price comes from so I let her cat paw me a turn then I showered and got dressed. Before leaving she looked like she was doing me the hugest favor and offered 50. I didn't even reply. Downstairs non of the crew would meet my eyes for some reason.From what the hostess told me a lot of Asians especially China people here in Cambodia the rates for local girls are $40-50, Vietnam girls are $60-80, China girls are $100 and above. Some girls that do freelance in naga are even asking for $200-300. Just because of the rich playing here the girls are asking more than usual. 1 girl from bar also told me that some guys that stay in Sun city paid $200 for a girl from bar. Prices are raising so much.