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Don't tar every girl with the same brush. There are a number of reasons that girls drift into bar work a lot see it as a easy life, some do it as a necessity and some are persuaded to leave their job in a garment factory and follow a friend.
I met a girl who had just started work in a bar I used to visit and eight years later we are still together, I help out with her expenses including $160 per month for a simple apartment which I use on my regular visits to PP I also help her family with things such as a water pump and building a toilet to save them and me shitting in the fields. They have asked to borrow small amounts on occasions but have always repaid promptly but they have never asked for me to just give money.And are lucky. But unless one goes into a relationship with a touch of cynicism disaster is inevitable.
Go read "Private Dancer. ".
Member #4589
07-19-15, 04:37
Did not ask on bottle service. My budget doesn't factor it in. Ask around the forum.
So the girls where a bit aggressive.That's the biggest problem with Cyrcee. You sit down and the girls swarm all over you so it's hard to relax and check out all the talent. So my approach is to buy a girl a drink right away, which makes the others go away. Then I sit back, look around, and call over whoever I like and buy her a drink too. It's only an extra couple bucks to buy that first drink and it really takes the pressure off.
Member #4589
07-19-15, 11:24
That's the biggest problem with Cyrcee. You sit down and the girls swarm all over you so it's hard to relax and check out all the talent. So my approach is to buy a girl a drink right away, which makes the others go away. Then I sit back, look around, and call over whoever I like and buy her a drink too. It's only an extra couple bucks to buy that first drink and it really takes the pressure off.I never actually thought of doing that.
I'll make sure to try that out next time.
Advantageous
07-19-15, 17:13
That's the biggest problem with Cyrcee. You sit down and the girls swarm all over you so it's hard to relax and check out all the talent. So my approach is to buy a girl a drink right away, which makes the others go away. Then I sit back, look around, and call over whoever I like and buy her a drink too. It's only an extra couple bucks to buy that first drink and it really takes the pressure off.Does Girl 1 generally react well to you bringing Girl 2 over after a little bit? With them swarming as intensely as it sounds, I'm surprised they'll back off just because you pulled a second girl vs. Pulling for the threesome.
Member #4589
07-20-15, 01:46
Does Girl 1 generally react well to you bringing Girl 2 over after a little bit? With them swarming as intensely as it sounds, I'm surprised they'll back off just because you pulled a second girl vs. Pulling for the threesome.LOL speaking of pulling a 3-some. When I got there I was rushed by like 4 girls. I told them to back off for a bit. I sat down ordered a drink but 3 girls were still in my front. One of the girls that approached me was what I was looking for anyway, but the other was just OK. I settled for the 3-some but even at that there was another girl that wanted to join in. LOL 4-somes are just to hard to coordinate. Even the 3 was good, but I think they are over hyped. Stick with 1 girl and take your time.
As far as the girl 1 and girl 2 thing. They surely know it's all part of the business.
And are lucky. But unless one goes into a relationship with a touch of cynicism disaster is inevitable.
Go read "Private Dancer. ".I have read Private Dance and have worked with Stephen Leather on several projects, Private Dancer is a good read but one shouldn't treat it as totally factual account.
I have read Private Dance and have worked with Stephen Leather on several projects, Private Dancer is a good read but one shouldn't treat it as totally factual account.Private Dancr encapsualted much that happens in Thai / Farang relationships and may not be 'totally' factual but, for example, pages and pages of Stickman Letters over the years chronicle disatrous relationship.
Good luck but don't discount the need for a touch of realism.
Does Girl 1 generally react well to you bringing Girl 2 over after a little bit?I suppose she might get a bit miffed if you were to start talking to her, groping her, etc and then suddenly call over another one. But if you just buy her a drink and sit back and keep looking around then she won't be too surprised when you call another one over.
And yes, buying just one of them a drink really does scatter the other ones away. It's just like when the motodop boys all compete for you and then when you pick one the others immediately walk away.
Hi,
No posts for over a week. Is the bar scene and rain that bad?
Member #4589
07-30-15, 00:32
OK, guys this is going to be a long one so bear with me.
So, I've been in Phnom Penh for quite a while and I've checked out most of the main spots for P4 P (Sorya after night, Cycree, 136 street, 51 street, Pontoon and HOD), so it's suffice to say my upcoming review holds weight.
So I'll begin. Phnom Penh is not what you think of as SEA P4 P (I. E. Bangkok, Manila, Angeles City, Pattaya, Kuala Lumpur etc). I've made this statement before, but I feel I must really stress this time around.
First things first. You get what you pay for. Like I said, I'm a younger guy so I have quite a bit of stamina, I'm not trying to sound pretentious, but "down there" I'm very well endowed (what's 24 cm in inches? I know it's dumb to measure but I had an experience where a former GF of mine felt she had to measure, go figure). Again, I'm sub 30's and my stamina and hormones have me like a wild dog. Being from a western country with high speed internet, I discovered porn early and have always wanted to experiment. So I find myself in Phnom Penh (PP) but with the local talent really lacking.
Let's go. So PP isn't like neighboring countries for P4P. I feel this is the case because other neighboring countries have already built up a rep as being P4P havens. Belief / Perceptions die slowly.
My biggest problem with PP is the lack of selection. You will not find anywhere in PP that will rival Soi Cowboy or Sukhumvit Road. My time in Bangkok mainly featured SWs and Freelancers and I had a blast (not to say I didn't try the bars as well). In Bangkok, not only did I find a large number of Thai women, but I also had Africans, a few eastern Europeans and other SEAn women.
The lack of selection in PP can make it tough to get a good variety. Again, I've been up-charged by ladies because they feel I'm going to "hurt" them.
In addition to the limited selection is the issue of sometimes spotty service. You have to do your do diligence before taking out a lady. Playfully ask what is on the menu I. E. 'yum-yum', how much time etc.
Bar girls here are not a 100% guarantee like in Bangkok. If she doesn't want to come with you then she won't go with you. PP is a lot more toned down when it comes to P4 P. Some people may actually prefer that over the "in your face" atmosphere of Bangkok and Angels City. Different strokes for different blokes. Only place I can really think of that may be in your face is Cycree bar, which I will say probably has the best selection of girls in one area willing to go for ST or LT. There are so many girls that you have to take your time and sift through the initial ones that rush you before you make your selection (s) (also, best place for threesomes, 4 somes, I. E. I've had great times in Cycree but my last adventure there had the girl I took very angry because she felt I couldn't come fast enough for her. In regards to my experiences elsewhere (Bangkok, KL) the ladies seem to be better 'seasoned' so they've experienced different guys on the spectrum. No hard evidence of this other than my observations of Bangkok and KL being more of a cosmo city than PP.
I remember when I was in Bangkok and a guy at a bar told me (and I quote) "If you need a girl that can handle 'heavy artillery' you're going to want to try an African girl or eastern european". P4P Wisdom at its finest.
So all in all, I would say PP is a solid 6/10 in the P4 P market for a younger guy in his sexual prime. PP will get the job done, you'll have good stories, but it lacks that 'WOW' factor. The ladies I've encountered really aren't the best looking, and other than the very good prices the service has been decent at best, caveat my threesome at Cycree a few weeks back. So young fellas, my advice to you, don't come here with super high expectations. It's best to come and go with the flow, check out all the main spots and find which ones you like the best. Definitely check out Cycree bar, you won't be disappointed. Again these are my observations and experiences. You may have different. Enjoy and safe hunting.
I just got back from the Soul Golden City Hotel. Fishbowl 5th floor. It seems better than a year ago when I went. There must have been about 45 women in the room. I paid $7 for the room and got the girl down to $50. Well worth it. The rooms are clean. Just perfect, but lacking a hot water shower. I think it is the best place in town.
Advantageous
07-31-15, 12:04
With the day prior behind me, it was time to grab a bus to Phnom Penh. One missed bus and one made one later, I get to Phnom Penh around 10:30 pm. Prior research showed that there wasn't much in PP for me except the promise of not having to do all 12 hours of SR-HCMC at once, so I shower, change clothes, and head out to Pontoon around midnight. The club is pretty active, and after a little bit of floating around, I grab a table in the back. I'the have to concur with the overall opinion that PP isn't the best destination for mongering at all. Thirty or forty minutes go by in Pontoon, and my objective switches from "finding Ms. Right" to "finding a girl who's going to take all the dick" right before running into the girl for the night. 5-6/10 looks wise to be honest, but she's got a bit of ass to here, and at least gives of the illusion of having tits. Fast-forward to the Riverside Suites, and she gets to work after a quick shower. Good BBBJ, and I have her switch to doggy after a few minutes. Of course with my luck, she's "touching" and all the other bullshit about it being too big; she gets actively frustrated and tries to switch to finishing me off via HJ, but that's not in the cards at $35 and a $5 tip. I throw the old 'gal into Missionary, have her finish me off with her mouth and hand, and answer her "I go now?" with an opening of the door.
I was actually pretty surprised to find out how disappointing Pontoon was; a lot of people described it in fonder tone, and it was admittedly a Sunday, but I'll probably pass on PP in the future for mongering / in general; Patts is closer to SR, and there are better options in VN, so it really only serves as an in-between for yours truly.
Woke up, paid $85 to get my VN visa in an hour or two, did some touristy shit, got a Mekong Express VIP HiAce, and got the fuck out of PP. Good riddance to a skippable destination.
Member #4589
08-01-15, 19:12
With the day prior behind me, it was time to grab a bus to Phnom Penh. One missed bus and one made one later, I get to Phnom Penh around 10:30 pm. Prior research showed that there wasn't much in PP for me except the promise of not having to do all 12 hours of SR-HCMC at once, so I shower, change clothes, and head out to Pontoon around midnight. The club is pretty active, and after a little bit of floating around, I grab a table in the back. I'the have to concur with the overall opinion that PP isn't the best destination for mongering at all. Thirty or forty minutes go by in Pontoon, and my objective switches from "finding Ms. Right" to "finding a girl who's going to take all the dick" right before running into the girl for the night. 5-6/10 looks wise to be honest, but she's got a bit of ass to here, and at least gives of the illusion of having tits. Fast-forward to the Riverside Suites, and she gets to work after a quick shower. Good BBBJ, and I have her switch to doggy after a few minutes. Of course with my luck, she's "touching" and all the other bullshit about it being too big; she gets actively frustrated and tries to switch to finishing me off via HJ, but that's not in the cards at $35 and a $5 tip. I throw the old 'gal into Missionary, have her finish me off with her mouth and hand, and answer her "I go now?" with an opening of the door.
I was actually pretty surprised to find out how disappointing Pontoon was; a lot of people described it in fonder tone, and it was admittedly a Sunday, but I'll probably pass on PP in the future for mongering / in general; Patts is closer to SR, and there are better options in VN, so it really only serves as an in-between for yours truly.
Woke up, paid $85 to get my VN visa in an hour or two, did some touristy shit, got a Mekong Express VIP HiAce, and got the fuck out of PP. Good riddance to a skippable destination.Sorry about your experience, like I said PP isn't quite there yet as far as mongering. In a few years PP will either be a nice place for mongering, or pretty skippable. I wish you had tried Cycree, but you are right, PP can be tough. Definitely going to be waiting on your review of VN, I'm planning a trip there in a few weeks. By the way, what company did you use to get your visa so quickly.
A few wet and rainy nights in Phnom Penh but interesting all the same. Ended up in Street 130 because it is near my hotel and also had a good time there last trip. Its getting lots of new bars and other businesses and has a much nicer vibe than its neighbour Street 136. Anyhow, headed for Angy Birds Bar but got waylaid by a new bar called Honeypot Bar and had a great night.
Seems that Honeypot is owned by the same guys who run Angry Birds and Loco Bar in the same street. Anyhow enough on the real estate (– but Honeypot had some very sexy girls – way better than most other bars around and more like what you would see in years past. Good vibe, good music, nice owner who was happy to chat and good prices – standard bar fine. No rip offs or diluted drinks etc. Definitley on my return list!!
Member #4589
08-02-15, 16:04
A few wet and rainy nights in Phnom Penh but interesting all the same. Ended up in Street 130 because it is near my hotel and also had a good time there last trip. Its getting lots of new bars and other businesses and has a much nicer vibe than its neighbour Street 136. Anyhow, headed for Angy Birds Bar but got waylaid by a new bar called Honeypot Bar and had a great night.
Seems that Honeypot is owned by the same guys who run Angry Birds and Loco Bar in the same street. Anyhow enough on the real estate ( but Honeypot had some very sexy girls way better than most other bars around and more like what you would see in years past. Good vibe, good music, nice owner who was happy to chat and good prices standard bar fine. No rip offs or diluted drinks etc. Definitley on my return list!!I've heard about this Honeypot bar but haven't tried it out. PP hasn't been so friendly to me so I'm a bit hesitant. Would you say the ladies are better looking than the ones are Cycree bar.
I've heard about this Honeypot bar but haven't tried it out. PP hasn't been so friendly to me so I'm a bit hesitant. Would you say the ladies are better looking than the ones are Cycree bar.
Yeah in my opinion definitely a range of nicer looking girls at Honeypot. But of course it's not the same as Cyrcee where you walk in and can take a girl across the street in 5 minutes. Definitely pays to spend a little time talking to a girl you like at Honeypot. You will get great service if you make a little connection.
But don't hesitate to ask the western owner who is there every night. He will steer you towards the right girl if you tell him what you are looking for. I think having western owners in the bar ever night is why Honeypot is a good place to wash up after wading through the water!! And surely no one could be as miserable as the Cyrcee guy. !!
Uncle Volodya
08-09-15, 15:34
Hi Guys!
I will be in PP at the end of the week. After spending a few days is SP with my VN girl friend to see Angkor.
I have RTFF and here is what I have gleaned:
Places to check out: Rose Bar, Pontoon, Cyrcee, Angry Birds and Honeypot. Darling Darlign for the higher end P4 P.
Prices: $30 to $100.
Anything I may have missed??
Thanks in advance for any info / tips you can share!
Traveler1234
08-09-15, 15:51
Seems that Honeypot is owned by the same guys who run Angry Birds and Loco Bar in the same street. Really, are you sure about that?
Hi Guys!
I will be in PP at the end of the week. After spending a few days is SP with my VN girl friend to see Angkor.
I have RTFF and here is what I have gleaned:
Places to check out: Rose Bar, Pontoon, Cyrcee, Angry Birds and Honeypot. Darling Darlign for the higher end P4 P.
Prices: $30 to $100.
Anything I may have missed??
Thanks in advance for any info / tips you can share!Hi Buddy,
Rose Bar: There are some really cute girls there. Some of them moved from 136 Bar, 69 etc. From street 136. Vibe is also good, but it won't be a cheap evening for you.
Cyrcee: It is a come-choose-go-fuck place. Very willing girls but do not expect that someone will fall in love with you -.
Angry Birds: Nice girls but the stunners not really willing to go. At least not with me. Honeypot: Not tried yet but heard some good stories.
Darlign Darling: Definitely on the higher price level but lots of girls. And compared to the western part of the world still cheap.
Pontoon: Good to party, you will always find someone. And if not you can hit G-Pub.
I have had many good times in street 136 followed by Pontoon.
And nowadays I do not pay more than 100 USD for almost a week with always the same girl. She likes me and vice versa. We even fucked in her private room. Which she is sharing with her friend which is just 3 minutes walk from Pontoon.
Happy mongering!
I'm might be back in 3 weeks.
Hi Uncle Volodya.
You helped me out a few years back so hope I can return the favour.
Card Boy has nailed it pretty much.
Street 104 - Rose has the most girls but there are stunners to be had in the other bars from time to time. Since the street is packed with bars, it doesn't hurt to wander in and have a look at a few.
Riverside. As per my report below I strongly suggest Street 130 over Street 136. Honeypot had some superb girls there last week and Angry Birds and Loco can also be fun. Having western owners on site each night makes a big difference to the way the bar runs in IMHO.
Cyrcee. Yes -naughty girls available immediately. But don't expect much connection. In and out of the hotel across the road in 30 minutes guaranteed!!
Pontoon. Doesn't get going until 12 midnight. Grab spot at the corner of the bar on the front and you'll find who is available very fast. Can be a lot of crazy girls though whose behaviour back at the hotel can be erratic (change the agreement, go home early - baby sick etc). You need to be prepared to walk away or tell her to leave if it goes bad. I find Pontoon very hit and miss to be honest. However, if you are out late you will end up there or the little club nearby G-Pub. Worth sitting at the Sorya Mall tables and watching the circus pass by before you go to Pontoon for the loud rap and dance music. Other more upmarket nightclubs are available if you wish (Pontoon would never be described as up market!)
Darling Darling. Never taken a girl from there. Bang for your buck and all that. Just not going to pay $100 in PP!
Hope this helps a bit and thanks for your assistance a few years back!
Hi Guys!
I will be in PP at the end of the week. After spending a few days is SP with my VN girl friend to see Angkor.
I have RTFF and here is what I have gleaned:
Places to check out: Rose Bar, Pontoon, Cyrcee, Angry Birds and Honeypot. Darling Darlign for the higher end P4 P.
Prices: $30 to $100.
Anything I may have missed??
Thanks in advance for any info / tips you can share!
No to be honest it was only an impression I had after seeing the guy from Angry Bird in Honeypot. Might have just been checking out the new place. Whatever I think western owners on site make a difference.
Really, are you sure about that?
No to be honest it was only an impression I had after seeing the guy from Angry Bird in Honeypot. Might have just been checking out the new place. Whatever I think western owners on site make a difference.Loco Bar started up with two western owners. They split up. One stayed at Loco Bar. The other one opened Angry Bird. Both very good bars. I don't know Honeypot, but I check it out when I come back to Phnom Penh next month.
Traveler1234
08-10-15, 14:25
Loco Bar started up with two western owners. They split up. One stayed at Loco Bar. The other one opened Angry Bird. Both very good bars. I don't know Honeypot, but I check it out when I come back to Phnom Penh next month.That was also my understanding, thanks for confirming.
IllusionHeart
08-10-15, 16:30
However, if you are out late you will end up there or the little club nearby G-Pub. Other more upmarket nightclubs are available if you wish (Pontoon would never be described as up market!)
Thanks Bubba, info also helps me as well. I am reaching there on 15th August for a week. Request if you could elaborate more on location of G-Pub and names of few more nightclubs. I read about a new club called Beliza and few others such as C2, Jets Studio and Rock Cambodia, etc. Anyplace worth visiting or sticking to Darling Darling is a better bet. I do enjoy late night partying and would like to frequent some good places.
I have also been reading tit bit info about "Beer gardens" near the friendship bridge wherein locals frequent. Any further info on this scene would really be appreciated.
Uncle V, seems our paths will cross. Hope we can meet for a drink at one of the Bars.
Hi Illusion Heart.
G-pub is in Sorya Mall on Street 51 - its on the far left side as you go in or else get to it from around the back of the moto parking area behind Pontoon. It's very small and effectively backs onto Pontoon. Gets going late (I have only been there after 2 or 3 am) but has a good vibe usually and gets plenty of bar girls done for the night, groups and pontoon refugees.
The more upmarket nightclubs I go to are Epic (over hear the Russian Embassy) and Nova on Street 214 (which is a bit closer to Pontoon. Very occasionally St Tropez. Epic is owned by the same people as own Pontoon I believe. Both are dance clubs frequented by the richer end of PP society but I have had a good time in both and met girls easily at both. Mixture of expats and Khmer. Don't turn up in shorts and flip flops. Broadly they try to maintain a dress standard because I suspect the Khmer elite don't like partying with backpackers (But it's not as strict as say a London club.
Beer gardens are all over. I know those around Toul Kork (TK) best (I have always been the only barang there) but not specifically those at the bridge that you mentioned Basically when you enter, there are usually a large number of well dressed young Khmer hostesses at the entrance. And they will join you to eat and drink. But it's then up to you to propose and seal a deal for anything else. In my experience these girls are less likely to speak adequate english to understand that you want to take them home and some may just not do it. So you need to find one who does speak english. Or manage in basic Khmer. This is the problem you will face there. Nonetheless I have had some great long time girls from beer gardens at TK but if you have limited time and language skills then it's a low percentage game. Bars like those I have mentioned in the previous post are a better starting point I suspect. It may be different at the beer gardens you mention but I would doubt it. Somebody correct me if there is better info. Many of the KTV clubs operate similarly.
You should just be a little cautious when you are at places where the Khmer elite are partying or better class beer gardens. Can usually tell from the number of Range Rovers or Prados parked out front. Don't get tanked and offend people or you might run into problems. Many of these elite types do have bodyguards That is not to say don't go, but just be aware.
Hope that helps. Have a great trip.
Thanks Bubba, info also helps me as well. I am reaching there on 15th August for a week. Request if you could elaborate more on location of G-Pub and names of few more nightclubs. I read about a new club called Beliza and few others such as C2, Jets Studio and Rock Cambodia, etc. Anyplace worth visiting or sticking to Darling Darling is a better bet. I do enjoy late night partying and would like to frequent some good places.
I have also been reading tit bit info about "Beer gardens" near the friendship bridge wherein locals frequent. Any further info on this scene would really be appreciated.
Uncle V, seems our paths will cross. Hope we can meet for a drink at one of the Bars.
IllusionHeart
08-12-15, 04:22
Hi Illusion Heart.
Hope that helps. Have a great trip.Thanks Bubba, really appreciate the Intel shared. As I am going there for the first time I plan to check options I have been reading on net.
While clubs is a familiar environment wherever I go I was slightly curious about the Beergarden MO in Cambodia. I have never really taken fancy for KTVs but with what I have read I wouldn't mind checking one in PP or SR.
My MO is to always fly under the radar. I don't intend to and am very careful to avoid encroaching on local turf be it anywhere. Absolutely no point engaging with a person whos drunk or bruising anyone's ego when it comes to partying and women.
You have been a real help. Thanks once again.
Advantageous
08-12-15, 08:18
Sorry about your experience, like I said PP isn't quite there yet as far as mongering. In a few years PP will either be a nice place for mongering, or pretty skippable. I wish you had tried Cycree, but you are right, PP can be tough. Definitely going to be waiting on your review of VN, I'm planning a trip there in a few weeks. By the way, what company did you use to get your visa so quickly.Yeah; I realized exactly how close Patts is to Siem Reap by night bus, so with Latin America blotting out my mongering schedule for the rest of the year, I'm thinking next spring or summer I might consider Patts - Siem Reap - HCMC via plane. As for the visa agency, I used Lucky Lucky! Motorcycle Shop; it came well recommended, and the price gets cheaper the less urgent your need for a visa is; mine would've been $75 if I could've waited 8 hours.
Why is there a lack of decent You tube video's of the Bars in Phnom Penh? Angeles, Bangkok and Pattaya all have 100's of top quality You Tube Vid's.
Uncle Volodya
08-13-15, 05:42
Hi Uncle Volodya.
You helped me out a few years back so hope I can return the favour.
Card Boy has nailed it pretty much.
Street 104 - Rose has the most girls but there are stunners to be had in the other bars from time to time. Since the street is packed with bars, it doesn't hurt to wander in and have a look at a few.
Riverside. As per my report below I strongly suggest Street 130 over Street 136. Honeypot had some superb girls there last week and Angry Birds and Loco can also be fun. Having western owners on site each night makes a big difference to the way the bar runs in IMHO.
Cyrcee. Yes -naughty girls available immediately. But don't expect much connection. In and out of the hotel across the road in 30 minutes guaranteed!!
Pontoon. Doesn't get going until 12 midnight. Grab spot at the corner of the bar on the front and you'll find who is available very fast. Can be a lot of crazy girls though whose behaviour back at the hotel can be erratic (change the agreement, go home early - baby sick etc). You need to be prepared to walk away or tell her to leave if it goes bad. I find Pontoon very hit and miss to be honest. However, if you are out late you will end up there or the little club nearby G-Pub. Worth sitting at the Sorya Mall tables and watching the circus pass by before you go to Pontoon for the loud rap and dance music. Other more upmarket nightclubs are available if you wish (Pontoon would never be described as up market!)
Darling Darling. Never taken a girl from there. Bang for your buck and all that. Just not going to pay $100 in PP!
Hope this helps a bit and thanks for your assistance a few years back!Thanks Bubba. I appreciate your help. As for any info I may have provided in the past it was my pleasure. I just hope it was useful.
I will definitely followup on your tips!
Why is there a lack of decent You tube video's of the Bars in Phnom Penh? Angeles, Bangkok and Pattaya all have 100's of top quality You Tube Vid's.A few years back there were some videos online, from mikado, Cyrcee and Sophies, naming the places too, all closed now except Cyrcee which is but a shadow of its former glory. Doing something here and posting it for the world to see can easily be a death sentence. Not for you, just for the bar.
Uncle Volodya
08-14-15, 15:22
Thanks Bubba, info also helps me as well. I am reaching there on 15th August for a week. Request if you could elaborate more on location of G-Pub and names of few more nightclubs. I read about a new club called Beliza and few others such as C2, Jets Studio and Rock Cambodia, etc. Anyplace worth visiting or sticking to Darling Darling is a better bet. I do enjoy late night partying and would like to frequent some good places.
I have also been reading tit bit info about "Beer gardens" near the friendship bridge wherein locals frequent. Any further info on this scene would really be appreciated.
Uncle V, seems our paths will cross. Hope we can meet for a drink at one of the Bars.Hi illusionheart!
I just got into PP.
Tried to pm you buddy but never received a reply. Maybe your mailbox is full? Happens to me all the time. Pm me if you still want to meet up in PP. .
Regarding the quality of the Girls in PP. I have traveled to 68 different countries. And South East Asia is by far my Number 1 destination. I have traveled with these fine words in my heart for over 30 years. And not once have they ever let me down.
Don't you run back inside, darling, you know just what I'm here for.
So you're scared and you're thinking that maybe you ain't that young any more.
Show a little faith, there's magic in the night.
You ain't a beauty but, hey you're alright.
And that's alright with me.
Thunder Road.
The Boss.
I love PP. And Khmer girls will always be special to me. Be thankful for what you have in PP. Anyone want to swap PP for Wigan. FFS. Get Real.
I just got back from the Soul Golden City Hotel. Fishbowl 5th floor. It seems better than a year ago when I went. There must have been about 45 women in the room. I paid $7 for the room and got the girl down to $50. Well worth it. The rooms are clean. Just perfect, but lacking a hot water shower. I think it is the best place in town.Where is the 'Soul Golden City' hotel to find?
No address on internet!
Where is the 'Soul Golden City' hotel to find?
No address on internet!Not sure which internet you used, but on mine it came right up, near the casino.
Soul Golden City located at and 194 A, Sothearos (St. 3), next to the Rattan Funiture shop, Phnom Penh.
Could anyone tell me if La Maison the Ambre hotel on 123 Street is Girl friendly?
Could anyone tell me if La Maison the Ambre hotel on 123 Street is Girl friendly?I meant on 110 Street.
I sent email to the hotel asking if they are GF and got this back.
I guess they are saying that they are Girl Friendly?
<<<Hotel wrote.
Please be kindly informed you that normally it's on our guest's risk for any loss / broken inside the room.
We do not have that policy yet but if our guest guarantee for his / her own risk, it will be okay.
IllusionHeart
08-30-15, 13:08
August 15 (Day 1: Saturday)
Landed in PP around 2. 45 pm from Singapore. It took approximately 10 minutes from the time I started filling in my VOA form till I got my passport stamped with the VISA. Super smooth and extremely efficient. Maybe the Thai immigration guys needs to learn something from Khmer men. Bought a $5 Smart Sim card 4 G for 7 days 3 GB. I was booked in "Amanjaya Pancam" for 6 nights. Thanks to Nattys recommendation place was every bit to my expectation. Taxi was flat $12 from airport, took 45 minutes till I checken into the room. Extremely good location with a nice Riverview balcony. I had paid approx. $100 per night for a Junior Suite with breakfast included.
Rested for a while and dropped txt to Uncle Volodya (UV) as I had connected with him earlier from Singapore. Rested for a while and met up with UV around 7 pm at Happy Pizza, we both got some food and decided on the plan for the night. We decided to visit hostess bars on street (St) 104. UV had arrived a night earlier and had scanned some bars on St 136 and 130 while getting lay of the land. He went to freshen up and we got back together after 30 minutes. As we were walking towards 104 we diverted in St 136 as UV wanted to take a look inside Oasis bar. Nothing interesting we moved on. Reached St 104, plan was to check Rose bar first, we got in. Place was slightly empty. We got ourselves seated and were immediately surrounded by girls. Usual pleasantries followed. UV got one seated beside him. I was looking for Rose whom I had earlier connected on fb. I spotted her and as she was walking towards the bar I called her over. She joined me. Some general chat and I find out that the girl dosent barfine. I had ready Nattys earlier trip reports and was anticipating this phenomenon. While UVs girl was available to be barfined. Checked with UV and he didn't seem to feel the vibe to take the girl. We decided to move on. Settled our tab and walked towards Colonial bar. We walked upstairs doubting if the place was open and were greeted with 2 girls who invited us in. The place seemed dead other than 2 customers sitting inside with few girls. We decided to move on to a different bar.
We got back on the road and decided to venture into Zanzibar. Got ourselves seated. Same routine followed. I liked a girl and got her seated beside me, so did UV. I was looking forward to pop my Khmer cherry. Her name was Asra. She said she was 24. Checked with the girl and she was willing to do ST at $50 and LT at $70. I decided to bar fine her ST as I didn't want to commit LT so early. Paid the $10 BF. UV said he would wait or settle the tab if he decided to BF the girl with him and connect with me later. I asked Asra if she knew any ST hotel around. She walked me up to the Hotel across the street besides Rose bar. We went in, Asra spoke to the receptionist in Khmer. ST charge was $15. I paid and was asked for an ID. I wasn't carrying any on me and told her that my passport was at the hotel. I was hoping that there shouldn't be any problem and indeed there wasn't. The receptionist took the girls ID. We walked up to the 2nd floor. Room was decent one with a small bathroom. Walking up to St 104 and in and out of bars had me sweated. Got myself a shower. Girl didn't seem to keen but I insisted. On the bed. Asra had a decent body, atleast no stretch marks. Be sized breasts, trimmed pussy. Guess the Khmer girls are slightly more blessed when it comes to breasts compared to thai girls. I tried to kiss her but she didn't seem to respond quite the way I was expecting. I carried on, got a good feel of her breasts and arse which seem to my liking. Got a taste of her breasts. Asked her to go down on me to which she said she doesn't. I was slightly shocked. I told her that I wanted it but she communicated in broken English that she doesn't. I suggested I could wear a condom but she was quite adamant. Instead she started kissing my body and sucking on my breasts. It was working for me. Got rubber on and asked her to ride me. She was not quite the expert but it was underway. Switched to missionary and finished in doggy in few minutes. Quite relieved. Got dressed and we were back to the bar in 10 minutes. UV was still there but had shifted from the table to more comfortable seating on the sofa.
Overall experience: 5/10 (No BBBJ and DFK)
UV had clicked with the girl and had decided to BF her LT. We split with an option to meet later in the night if things didn't work out well for him. I got some food at Paddy's Irish bar on the way and rested for a while in the Hotel room. I was contemplating on where to go and had 3 options in mind. Epic or Darlin Darlin or Pontoon.
I decided to go to Pontoon. I showered and took a tuk tuk around 12.30 am, costed me $1 to get there. Used to bargaining I had to get him down from $3. I paid an entry charge of $8 and went in. Redeemed by drink coucher for some Vodka promo going on. Place was live and there was good crowd. I was scanning around and was also getting scanned in return from the hardcore ones. I could see it in their eyes. Took a round of the place, saw the VIP section and got a drink and settled near the bar. There were few lookers but were taken. I got a Carona and took another stroll around. There were some available girls mostly mature ones. Looked extremely hardcore and I didn't want to take any chances. I hung around till 2 am but just couldn't find anyone to my preference. The place had quantity but seriously lacking in quality compared to Insomnia / I-bar in Pattaya. Reminded me of my visits to High Society in AC and was was quite comparable. Available girls seemed more suited for PSE experience compared to the GFE I prefer. I decided to get out and walked at the back to check G-club. The staff were setting up the place and it was 2 am. This really seemed to be an early morning place. Didn't want to wait that long. Got myself a tuk tuck back to hotel and called it a night.
IllusionHeart
08-30-15, 13:10
August 16 (Day 2: Sunday)
I got up around 11.30 and txt UV. He had a great night and seemed very happy. More details would follow in his FR I might say. We decided to get some food as I had missed breakfast and was famished. UV came over to my hotel, usual bargaining with tuk tuk and got ourselves to Aeon Mall, paid $2. We strolled around the mall and got ourselves some Japanese food. UV is a foodie like me and enjoys his food very much. Finished our meal and noticed that the quality aspect of Khmer women was really low compared to the Thai girls we are used to seeing in Terminal 21 or Siam paragon mall in BKK. Rarely spotted a stunner if I may say so.
We headed out and took a tour of the Royal palace. It was around 3 pm and contemplating on options decided to get a to a massage. We took a tuk tuk to St 200, had to guide the tuk tuk driver through google maps as he evidently seemed lost. As you enter the street the Luxury World Hotel is on the left side almost at the end, paid $2. The massage place is on the 1st floor of the hotel. As you walk in you are guided to a room from where you can see the fishbowl through a glass door. There were approx. 20 girls. Mamasan highlighted the Viets in Blue dress and Khmer in Pink. We were expecting some good looking Viets but there were only a few and matured ones present instead. I saw Khmer girls and found one to my liking. Paid the $10 charge. UV decided to abstain and went to get himself a chilled beer. I proceeded with the girl to the room on floor upstairs (2nd floor). Room was very small and AC not quite efficient. We settled in and I got myself out of my clothes sans undies on the bed. She started with a lackluster massage on my back and was waiting for me to speak. I just laid and asked her to massage hard. Her name was Lin. She was a short girl. She asked me to turn over and looked into my eyes expecting to say something. I gave in and asked her how much for boom boom. She said $80. I countered with $40. She refused and giggled. She wasn't budging. I offered $50 and said that's all I have and got up. She thought I was leaving and agreed. She got off her clothes. Had be sized breasts, second Khmer girl for me, was happy that atleast I will have something handful. As she removed her undies came the shock. She was thick Bush. I proceeded anyways. She lay besides me and I tried to kiss her. Same problem. Girl only pecked. I sucked on her breasts which she seemed to like. I got my hand to her Bush and found my way to her clit. I continued sucking on her breasts while she stroked me. Asked her to go down on me to which she also refused. I told her that I am walking out if she dosent do it. She agreed but with a rubber on. Got the rubber on, she sucked for few seconds and looked up to me indicating that was it. I wasn't going to get any further so got her in Cowgirl, missionary and doggy. She was incredibly tight and extremely wet when we finished. I was satiated. Caught up with UV who was seated in the restaurant sipping a cold one. We decided to get out and get some food.
Overall experience: 6.5/10 (CBJ and light Pecking)
We went to a Khmer restaurant UV had identified but unfortunately it was closed. We decided to go to St 51. As soon as we reached the Golden Sorya mall square I suggested we go and have a beer in Shangai. We got in seated. UV ordered some food. I meanwhile looked for a girl I had connected in the night on Wechat. Her name was Nitha. I saw her and called her over. She recalled having chatted with me and was happy I was there. However she seemed busy with a customer who had bought her drinks. Also the place seem to be extremely low on staff as all girls (4 or 5) were doubling up as waitresses. She came in between to talk to me but I wasn't buying her a drink considering that she would take a sip and zoom off to other tables where drinks were already bought and waiting for her. UV in the meantime finished his meal. We decided to move on.
We walked towards St 9 and into LE Cyrcee. It was 6 pm and Bar seemed to have just opened. There were 3 or 4 girls. We got ourselves seated and ordered drinks. Two girls latched onto UV and 1 came to me. The seemed to be extremely average girls. While UV started chatting I decided to abstain and wait for some more girls to show up. Over the next 30 to 40 minutes around 3 more girls showed up. 3 some seems to be a normal routine here as the girls approached us in pairs. While we could always select 1 girl or form a pair it would be apt to go with the pairs already formed by the girls themselves. Atleast one wouldn't have to worry about the chemistry between the girls. We were not really in the mood for a session and settled our tab and moved on. There is good potential here for a session catch being the extremely average quality of girls. No teens or spinners, just few mature girls who woud know the job better.
We walked up to street St 136. Saw Candy but didn't want to go in considering the LBs present there. There were extremely minimal or no catcalls in bars here compared to Pattaya or AC. It was peaceful walking and taking your time to zero in the bar you would want to go in. The girls seemed to be sitting outside in absence or less customers inside and you caqn take a good look at them atleast. We walked upto Dream bar which is the last one on the left then turned back. We saw some potential outside Illusionz or Sizzler and went in. Surrounded by girls as soon as we were seated. Got ourselves a girl each and ordered drinks for all. Usual pleasantries followed. Suddenly a girl came to our table with "Connect 4" game board. Pattaya open bar visitors would be familiar with this game. Played and lost a few rounds. Bought her a LD. She was extremely lively and enthusiastic girl, spoke English comparably well to the other girls. She had suffered a bike accident and had a stitch between her upper lip and nose, a small scar on her forehead. Few others on her leg. Reminded us how dangerous these bike rides can be and abstain from them. She was also doubling up as a DJ and playing some peppy music. The other girls including the mamasan requested her to get up on the bar and dance which she did and swayed extremely well. UV tried to get a pic but she stopped dancing and refused. I already had a girl sitting besides me and was in a fix now. I checked with the girl sitting besides, name was Nita whether she would BF to which she affirmed. ST $50 and LT $70. UV also seemed to like this girl. However I was feeling attracted to the other girl. When she came down I asked her name, name was Srey and whether she would BF. She did BF and at same price quoted by Nita. However I had insisted upon a visit to Naga earlier to UV as this was his last night in PP and he was flying back to Pattaya next afternoon. We didn't want to commit here and so early, 7 pm. I checked with the bar and they were going to be open till 3 am and later if the customers are sitting inside. Promising to return and as a backup plan we settled our tab and went to hotel to freshen up.
We took a tuk tuk to Naga from my hotel, paid $2 arrived around 8. 30 pm. Seemed early so took a stroll around the casino. Place was filled with and seemed dedicated to Chinese people. We hung around for some time and then hit Darlin Darlin (DD). Reminded me of my first visit to Brix or Spasso. However there is no entry charge in DD. We got in and found a table sans bottle service. There weren't many girls. We were seated in the last row of tables and had the VIP enclosures to our right and passage / bar to our left. The VIP enclosures seem to be filled with Chinese men. Two girls were seated beside us and got talking to us. One came over and chatted to me. Didn't find them quite interesting. We also took break from them and moved around to spot available talent. We had come in from the casino side. However there is also a direct entrance from the road which bypasses the entry to casino and straight inside DD. Few girls were seated here. They also took turns one by one to stroll around and identify potential customers. One of the girl, slim gazelle spoke to the girls seated with us and caught my attention. I asked them if she could join us. They spoke to her in Khmer and she walked away. One of the girls told me that she would charge $30 for 1 hour and $50 for 2 or 3 hours to join me for drinks. This was new and I was going to pay a girl to fuck and not just drink with me. I thought geishas existed only in Japan but it seems that this companion concept is now increasing. I am exposed enough to this concept alternately referred to as BMD (Buy me Drink) in Singapore. It was evident that target segment for these girls are mainly the Chinese groups who like to party after their winnings / loss at the Casino.
I recalled my earlier conversation with Nita who had told me that there is another Disco called "F Club" on the upper floors inside the casino. UV and I decided to take a break from the girls with us as neither of us were interested in either. UV had however initially probed wherein one of the girl had quoted $150 but could be negotiated to do LT for $120 if I remember correctly. We walked over to the bar and settled our tab. To our surprise the girls had told the waiter to bill us their drinks as well. We were surprised but paid the same and moved on. It took some walking around on the first floor to locate the disco. We got in and immediately realized that we were not welcome. There were groups of Chinese men seated all around. A pimp was parading all girls in front of the groups. Girls looked Chinese as well. We got ourselves a drink and looked around but didn't see any scope for even talking with a girl as they were being moved around in herds by the pimp. We finished our drink as fast as we could and got back to DD.
Crowd had built up in DD by then. Place had more girls now near the bar counter. We engaged with few. One quoted 200 for ST, other one quoted 150 for ST and they wouldn't budge. UV didn't click with anyone either so we decided to go back to St 136. I had planned to BF Srey and UV would take Nita. We got ourselves seated and the girls came smiling back to us. Got Nita seated beside UV and Srey with me. However UV was not getting the vibe from Nita and decided to go back to St 104, Zanzibar and BF the girl he had taken the earlier night. He wanted to leave PP with a good tried and tested girl experience. I had both girls to myself but am not a threesome guy. I thought I would take Srey tonight and Nita tomorrow however it seems Nita was having an off the other day so changed my plans and BF Nita LT instead agreeing on $70 till afternoon next day. Settled the tab, paid $10 BF and we walked back to the Hotel. Had few shots of JW in the room as I had carried a bottle from Singapore not aware that alcohol is cheap in PP but didn't want to take chance with counterfeit liquor. Took shower separately. Nita was warm in bed and was open to DFK. She also attempted BBBJ but was seriously lacking. I had to get my hand over her head and guide her movements. Atleast she was trying. Finally I got a BBBJ in PP. Started in missionary and finished in doggy. She had trimmed Bush and A sized breasts. Had another session in morning sans BBBJ as I was hard and got her to ride me. Almost forgot rubber when she reminded me at the last minute. Danger averted and finished shortly in missionary. She left soon after.
Overall experience: 7/10 (BBBJ and DFK)
IllusionHeart
08-30-15, 13:11
August 17 (Day 3: Monday)
Met UV in the afternoon and went to see what Phnom. UV told me that had a great time and enjoyed multiple pops with his girl. We decided to get another massage before he left for Pattaya. UV had already checked out and left his luggage at the reception of his hotel. We decided to try another massage place. We took a tuk tuk to St 252, a place called Massa. We got there. It's the only massage place on the street on the right hand as soon as you enter. We got upstairs on the first floor guided by the doorman seated at the entrance. We walked into an apartment and were seated on a sofa facing the fishbowl. There were around 10 to 12 girls, few matured ones in them. Two stood out, one no 61 was a cute and beautiful one, prettiest of the lot. UV took her and I took no 30 who was smiling at me and gave a good vibe. We paid the $10 charge and went to the room. The room was an absolute dump. The bed had caved in and the bathroom was dirty. However as the girl looked inviting decided to carry on. Usual pretending of massage and down to negotiation. Girl was named Hanna and quoted $80. I almost chuckled. I countered with $40 but denied, settled at $50. She started massaging my dick and I was expecting her to proceed for BBBJ. It didn't happen neither did DFK. Just light kisses. What made me enjoy the session was how tight the girl was. Be sized breasts. Really enjoyed pumping her. Soft moans and squeezing me tightly gave me all the hard on and arousal I needed. Started with missionary and finished in doggy. Cleaned up as fast as I can and came out. Waited for UV. He came out a satiated man and had the same feelings about the facilities. I would suggest skipping this place if you are very particular about the room and toilet. You have been warned.
Overall experience: 6.5/10 (No BBBJ/CBJ or DFK)
We took a tuk tuk back to riverside and parted after a sumptuous meal at "LE Patata". I had enjoyed UVs company thoroughly and was happy that we had the same thought process and clicked so well. My initial 2 days in PP had been great in his company and will definitely want to team up with him in future trip.
I went back to hotel and got few hours of sleep. I went to DD again around 9 pm as I wanted to give it a second chance. I got myself seated near the bar and ordered a JD cola. Got talking to a beautiful lady sitting beside. Her name was Yada. Closed on $100ST and took a tuk tuk back to hotel. Few more JW shots in room. Yada has the typical Khmer face, big flat nose, good body, had a 2 yr old child. She must be 25 to 28 yrs old. Be sized breasts. Yada was a cat in bed. She was more like the typical Thai or pinay girl I had experienced. Good BBBJ and she really did it well. Deep DFK with tongue. I started with missionary and she was already wet by then. Her soft moans in khmer really got me going harder and harder. I just managed to change to doggy before I came within few thrusts. We both had a contended smile on our face. She called up her regular taxi guy and was out in 10 minutes. I slept well and early that night as I had a 7. 30 Minibus (Seila Angkor) to catch for Siem Reap. I had to see Angkor what and had booked a room for Alliance Villa for 1 night. Plan was to get back to PP the other evening.
Overall experience: 7.5/10 (BBBJ and DFK)
Continued in SR thread..
IllusionHeart
08-30-15, 13:13
August 19 (Day 5: Wednesday)
I reached PP at 7. 30 pm. The minibus dropped me at St 47 at their main office. I decided to walk some distance and stretch my legs. The 5. 30 HR one way journey is really cumbersome. As I was walking towards what Phnom I came across the local beergarden on the right side. I could see girls seated on both sides after the entrance and made a note to visit this place. Walked some more and then took a tuk tuk back to hotel. I rested for some time and got out. Night in Siem Reap had been dry and boring. Plan was to check CASA Karaoke. I had read that there were some amazing Viet girls available here for $150 LT + $ 25 management fees on the Singapore forums. Singaporeans seem to have a lot of affinity for Karaoke places in PP or Manila or even Bangkok. I personally haven't even been to one but the idea of walking in and taking a girl away did entice me. Besides Karaoke's do seem to have reputation of offering more beautiful girls then hostess bars. I took a tuk tuk from hotel and asked the young lad to take me to street 47 which he didn't seem to know. This lad drives tuk tuk as part time job after 5 pm till midnight. When I told him CASA hotel he understood and took me there. Got chatting to him on the way and he offered me to take to some good local beergardens. I resisted and saved that for another day. I reached CASA and walked in the entrance. The security guy stopped me and laughed at me. I didn't understand. I asked him what happened. He told me that I was early and place opened after 10 pm. I looked at my watch and it was 9. 35 pm. Not wanting to waste time I walked out. The tuk tuk lad was waiting for me there so I told him to wait till I walked to the local beer garden I had seen earlier. I went in and all girls stood up. I said Hello, but they were giggling. It was a garden restaurant with tarpaulin covered roof. Dimly lit. But could see some local men sitting with 2 or 3 girls. I came back towards the girls at the entrance and said Hello, again. I didn't hear anyone say Hello, so guessed that this is an average Khmer joint and language is going to be a big barrier. I decided to move on and go back to DD. The tuk tuk guy took me there within minutes. He was talking about massage places, brothels, etc on the way but I just gave him no response.
I reached DD. I got myself seated near the cash counter at the end of the bar and ordered a JD cola. Place seemed dull today and not many girls. The Pinay band however seemed to be in full swing. Some good songs sung by the 3 female singers. However with nothing much happening I decided to take a break and walk into the casino. There are some girls moving around and smiling at you. I thought why not take a chance. As I was walking out a girl standing near the exit smiled. She looked good so I said Hi and stood near here. Small chit chat and I asked if she was free. She nodded affirmatively. I asked her how much to which she asked me whether I was staying at Naga. I said no and she quoted $150ST. Wasn't aware that a girl charged $50 premium for non Naga resident visitor. I countered with $100 to which she said no. I moved on and went to the main lobby. Got myself seated on a sofa near the open bar in the main lobby. There were 3 girls sitting at the sofa besides mine. Smiled at one and she smiled back. Waved her over to come and sit near me. She did. I asked her name, was Akim. She was short slightly plumpy girl. I could see the see sized breasts through her dress and felt horny. I asked her if she want to provide me company. She agreed at $ 100ST and off we were to my hotel with the lad waiting outside for me. Usual ID card check and photocopy. We got into the room, few shots of JW. She wanted to take a bath in the tub. She started undressing and I pulled her closer to me. She had real big jugs for the height she was. I got a good grab of them soft puppies. She then went into the tub and could see her complete body. Great butt and trimmed pussy. She came to bed after 15 minutes and seemed extremely happy to have spent time in the tub. I got on as soon as she lied beside me. She was averse to DFK and seem to give little pecks. What a turn off. However she gave me a decent BBBJ. I had to get her on top of me and suck on to those big jugs of her. I pumped her for some time and immediately got her into doggy. It did not take much time for me to come holding her big ones. She cleaned and left happy in 10 minutes.
Overall experience: 7/10 (BBBJ and no DFK)
I decided to go to Pontoon again. The tuk tuk lad was waiting outside my hotel as I had told him to stay put. Got in at 12 am. There was more crowd than my earlier visit. No cover charge. Felt positive about picking a girl. Took a round of the place, saw few potentials and got a drink. Settled near the bar facing the dance floor. Spoke to the one standing close by and she quoted $100 for LT till morning. I didn't negotiate and walked around. Approached another one but same price. The reason I was looking for LT was because I didn't want to take a chance. I had got up at 5 am to see the sunrise at Angkor what, travelled 5. 30 hours in the bus and had one pop already. LT would ensure that I can session with her in the morning if I don't feel like it when I get back to room. Didn't want to spend $100 dollar for this so got out. Called the tuk tuk lad and went to St 136. It was around 2 am by then. I went into Sizzler. Both the girls Nita and Srey were missing. Had a drink there and offered one to one of the cute young girls who only drink but don't BF. She was a sweetheart though. Good she didn't understand or utter a word of English, saved me the trouble of conversation. Called it a night as I was feeling really tired and sleepy. Took the tuk tuk back to hotel and paid him $5 for the entire round trip. He was happy and told me that he would be back the next day at 6 pm and wait for me outside the hotel. I told him that it was his wish as I didn't have any concrete plans.
IllusionHeart
08-30-15, 13:16
August 20 (Day 6: Thursday)
I missed breakfast again and had to walk to Paddys for a full English breakfast. It is quite filling but slightly expensive at $8. I could have welcomed a duck meat and noodle or Chicken Rice for 5 SGD instead if available. Food in Singapore is really amazing and cheap. Miss it when travelling to other Asian countries. I came back and rested for a while. Decide to pack a bit so that there was no last minute rush next morning. I ventured out at 2 pm. Went to ST 136 but most of the bars were closed and couldn't see any girls either, walked upto Pasteur then back to riverside through St 130. No luck. I then headed towards St 118 and onto further in Street 102 then back to 104. All the places seemed closed or didn't have any decent girl at this time. I went back to the hotel and rested for a while again. My last option was to check Soul Massage as I didn't want to repeat either of the two places I had been to with UV.
I took a tuk tuk to Soul. Every guy knows it and if one dosent better take the next tuk tuk, though it's rare that this would happen. The Soul building is about a 15 minute ride from river side. The tuk tuk guy dropped me outside the lobby. I went in and had read earlier that the massage place is on the 5th floor so I asked the reception of massage and she guided me accordingly. Took the lift and could see the narration beside the buttons indicating the other floors were mostly Karaoke. As I stepped out of the lift there was a counter with 2 mamasan sitting to my right and a fishbowl to my left. I proceeded and stood in front of the fishbowl. Wow. There were approx. 25 to 30 girls inside. Casually dressed meaning no uniform. Some real beauties. APprox 10 odd were really beautiful. I had made my choice and proceeded to the counter and handed over S6 which I had read in the one of the reports on ROD page. The mamasan countered asking $7 so paid another 1 $ and pointed towards the girl I wanted. As they have no nos getting her to identify the girl was some pain. Eventually she came out smiling and took me to a room about 2 doors from the fishbowl door on the left. As we got in another girl joined in. I thought it strange as I had selected only one. The girl whom I had selected told me in broken English that it will be great fun if her friend joins us as well. So she was offering me a threesome which I declined. Her friend sadly left the room. I undressed and asked her to get into the shower. It was extremely hot and I was sweating. I asked her name, said Srey, seems to be a common name amongst local girls there. She had A sized breasts but a very beautiful and clean body. Good butt and a lovely smile. She was trimmed. She was 20 years old. Must be the youngest girl I have been with on this trip. I was happy about my choice. We got into the shower, she cleaned me up. Got back on the bed, ac was working fine and room temperature was getting better. Then she walked towards the bed naked and asked me what I wanted. I said boom boom and asked how much. She said $100. I offered 50 $ to seal the deal and get on with the act. She refused and offered $80. I stayed put at $50 because that was the most I was willing to pay. She still refused. I was getting eager and upped by another $10 to $60 but she was still adamant about $80. She knew she was young and pretty one and maybe other guys paid her but I wasn't going to pay that amount to her. So I got up and walked towards my clothes and said $60 take it or leave it and I am out. She finally agreed and we got onto bed. No massage straight to action. She started stroking me and I got my hands to her pussy and mouth to her tits. I was hard in seconds. I asked her to go down on me to which she refused even with a rubber on. I didn't see it coming. Anyways got her to ride me. She was really tight and took some wriggling to get it in. Lucky she was slightly wet. Could manage only for few seconds and turned her over. Wanted to kiss her lips and tried but she refused again. She said I could kiss her cheeks or neck instead. It was really a shame to have not got a BBBJ or some DFK from such a beauty. I pumped her for few minutes, turned her over and finished in doggy. Laid for a while. Then got up and showered with her and was back to hotel. The is a place to visit only to see some beautiful young khmer girls. Don't expected much in terms of performance if you do visit. I wouldn't repeat for sure unless I was too horny and didn't find anything else.
Overall Experience: 6/10 (No BBBJ and no DFK)
Got a nap and got some fish amok at a nearby local restaurant. I saw the young tuk tuk lad waiting outside my hotel and told him I would be back in 15 minutes. I reached DD by 9 pm. I went in and got a seat near the bar cash counter. Yada was seated beside me. Exchanged some pleasantries and indicated her that I would not be taking her tonight. But she gave me company. Nursed my JD cola for the next 30 minutes but nothing caught my eye so went out to the casino lobby bar. Saw Akim chatting with a Chinese guy. Other girls didn't seem quite interesting. Sat and listened to few songs being sung by the band in the lobby. They seem to keep the women and children entertained while men gambled away at the tables. Decided to go back to DD. The place had picked up by now, could see few more women who had come in. Luckily the seat besides Yada was still available and I took it up. Got myself a drink. Few minutes later a beautiful slim gazelle joined Yada and they were hugs and chatting and laughter between them. I smiled at the girl and she was definitely potential. I asked Yada about her who told me she was her friend staying in Sihanoukville and had come back to PP after quite some time. She got us introduced. We clicked. I got her and Yada a drink. Her name was Flia. She liked the music and was swaying and laughing. Quite a lively character, quite contrast to my personality and hence attracts me. While chatting Yada asked me whether I wanted to take Flia with me. I was happy that it was being offered without any effort. I nodded and she spoke to Flia and she agreed as well for $100ST. I seemed to like Flia's personality and was hoping for a great session basis of my experiences in the past with girls possessing similar attitude. We were dropped by the young lad back to Hotel. I got kissing as soon as we got into the room and Flia responded well. I was thankful first barrier had been crossed. We settled and got some much and few shots of JD. Off she went to shower while I smoked eagerly in the balcony looking at the beautiful view of the river. I joined in the shower but she had finished and we were in bed quickly. Good DFK followed by a very professional BBBJ. I was extremely happy that Flia seemed to know and do what I was enjoying. I got the rubber on and entered her lying to her side. She was dripping wet by then and it was easy to pump her. Her breasts were a letdown though. A+ sized but saggy hence looked kinda weird. I continued sideways then got her on top of me. She was matching my movements and was responding extremely well. Changed to missionary and got into a good DFK and finished few minutes later in doggy. This had been an amazing experience which is a normal occurrence in LOS and Philippines but was a rare one for me in PP. I was completely satiated. I asked her if she wanted to stay over to which she refused and got cleaned and left in some time. Guess she must be having a baby or BF or someone to return to home early as she didn't discuss any money. I wished that she stayed for the night.
Overall Experience: 7.5/10 (BBBJ and DFK)
I rested for some time and decided to go to St 136. I reached the bar around 12.30 am and was planning on picking Srey. Unfortunately Srey had called in sick but Nita was there. Didn't really fancy another session with her so sat some time. Got a drink for Nita and the cute young girl whom I had spent time with earlier (no BF one) and myself. Thought about going to another bar but then was tired and didn't want to drink too much being my last night. I did want to have another session though preferably LT. As I was having a good time so stuck around. The mamasan also came over to my table and chatting to me ensuring I was comfortable. In the meantime I was also looking around for potential as there were approx. 10 to 12 more girls in the bar. I had at the back of my mind that if nothing worked would simply go back and sleep as 2 sessions in a day are good enough for me. After some time a girl walked past my table and signaled to me whether I was enjoying. Didn't see her earlier, seemed to be a very beautiful girl with good body. Lovely smile and be sized ones, could guess from her top. She then came back and sat on a stool at the bar and was talking to someone on video chat on her phone but through hand language. The mamasan notice me eyeing her and told me she was a sweet and amazing girl but was unfortunately mute. I was taken in shock upon hearing. She was indeed extremely beautiful and sweet one. I asked mamsan to offer her drink from me. As soon as she saw the drink being kept beside her she looked back and thanked me and signaled that she will come over in few minutes. She did come over. Extremely beautiful up close. I liked her. I asked mamasan about her and said her name was Lika but she didn't BF. She said will check with Lika as I had been a regular to the bar. Some hand signals later mamasan told me that Lika was willing to go with me. I told mamasan I wanted LT till next day afternoon and she confirmed. A LD to mamasan had worked in my favour. Nita who had been sitting beside me now told me she wanted to go home and sleep. I instead suggested that why don't we go over to Pontoon and she could go home from there. I could pay her BF ($10), she agreed. I paid $20 BF for Lika and Nita. We got into Pontoon and got ourselves a drink. Lika seemed to be regular there as the bouncers and waiters knew her and smiled back to her. We got seated outside the VIP area facing the dance floor. Place was packed. Waiter got us our drinks and told me that he knows Lika and she's very kind to him. I acknowledged and smiled back. Lika wanted to dance so we got on the floor did some moves but there were lot of drunk guys in groups making it uncomfortable to dance. Lika didn't like the pushing and rubbing her and we got back to our tables. Few more girls came over and said Hello, to Lika, another girl who also was a mute seemed to be her close friend. They really got chatting and joking in hand language. She indicated to me that Lika have a very good BJ. I just smiled. As these girls left for the loo I saw 2 or 3 girls walk up to the bar. I had seen them earlier in DD tonight. It seems the Brix- Ipanema MO was being repeated here as well. So a good chance that post 2 am you might find DD girls at Pontoon. Lika came back and we decided to call it a night. We got out, had some food at a local joint at the back of pontoon opp HOD club. I had consciously not visited HOD any night post reading the reports on this place in forum earlier.
The tuk tuck lad was waiting for me, dropped Nita on way to hotel. We got in and Lika hit the shower. I finished a shot of JW. Lika came back and got into the sheets signaling me to join her. I had to shower first. As smoking is allowed in Pontoon as well it really messes up with your hair and body. I joined Lika in bed and she was giggling. She was feeling very cool due to the ac which I had bumped up earlier due to the heat outside. We started with a very wet and long DFK. Lika was a complete GFE and liked playing around in bed. She went down on me and gave me a great BBBJ. Her friend had indeed signaled to me correctly regarding her abilities in pontoon earlier. I let her at it for some time. Got the rubber on and had an amazing session with her. Her be sized breast were soft and good tits. Definitely an indication of child which she confirmed. Lika was open to all positions and responded very well. We cuddled up and slept around 5 am.
Overall Experience: 8/10 (BBBJ and DFK)
IllusionHeart
08-30-15, 13:18
August 21 (Day 7: Friday)
I woke up and saw Lika trying to tickle me and giggling. Some snogging followed. And she was down on me before I could ask her. I found a rubber besides my pillow and handed over to her. She got it on me and rode me for few minutes while I tasted her soft breasts. I was about to come but had to stop her and get her on her back. I entered her in doggy and continued for few minutes before finished on top of her. She continued to giggle and also seem to have enjoyed the session. I asked her if she wanted to stay around and have breakfast. She refused and wanted to get home to her child. I was very happy and tipped her and went down to see her off. I got her into a tuck tuk and she went away. She later txt me that she had reached home and all was well.
Overall experience: 8/10 (BBBJ and DFK)
I got a shower then headed to Paddys for a full English breakfast. While returning back to Hotel a tuck tuck guy offered me to take for a massage or to beautiful girls " boom boom" I told him that my trip had ended and was going back to Singapore in few hours. He offered me to take me to airport for 12 dollars. I countered with 8 and he agreed. I asked him to come to my hotel at 1. 30 pm. He came on time and dropped me off the airport well in time for my Jetstar flight back to Singapore.
IllusionHeart
08-30-15, 13:21
To summarize my experience in Phnom Penh:
1. I did not find the average Khmer girls as beautiful as the Thai, Viets, Pinays or PRCs. I would rate them after these nationalities. I rarely came across a stunner or an extremely beautiful girl including public places. That being said Khmer women have a different body structure and are short but well-endowed compared to Thai or PRC girls. Khmer girls are also very docile and sweet. Didn't come across any aggressive one in any of my experience which is definitely a plus. They have slowly started to grow on me. Khmer girls were very open to taking their pics (except massage ones). I have clicked some for personal consumption only.
2. PP is definitely not cheap. The tuck tuck ($1) and drinks cost ($3 in hostess bars) add up fast. Besides I found food comparatively expensive with an average meal at local joints costing upto $5 or $8 including a nonalcoholic beverage even compared to Singapore food courts. Costs I. E. $50ST and $70 LT are at par with Pattaya and AC but cheaper compared to Soi Cowboy / Nana or Makati gogos.
3. The jealousy factor does not seem to exist here. You can walk into any bar and BF different girls every night from the same bar. You don't have to feel guilty or obligated to reconnect with the girl you have bfined earlier. No awkward feelings. None of the girls latch on to you claiming that you are their customer on repeat visits. They don't even sit on your table unless you invite them. I liked this very much. I experienced this in the hostess bar as well as DD.
4. DFK and BBJ is a hit and miss. Definitely not a given or default service especially with young girls. You need to be open to proceed without them being offered most of the times. Even when a girl says she does BJ there is no way to ascertain the expertise which is a given mostly with Thai girls or Pinays.
5. The massage scene is mediocre at the very best. Issue is that as there is nothing much else to do during daytime (afternoons) and this is the only option available. Hostess bars generally start building crowd from 6 pm onwards. They however close late by 3 am or can stay open till 5 or 6 am if they are hosting customers.
6. I didn't experience any potential Mall scene like BKK or Manila here. All I could see were families or groups having a great time.
7. Darlin Darlin was amazing whereas Pontoon was a complete miss for me. I wanted to try Epic or other clubs but time didn't permit. However night club scene is good and one can definitely pick up something for the night.
8. Social media scene is not very encouraging. Mostly ladyboys or extremely below average women on Wechat. Not many responses on other apps. Don't bank on social apps once you are here. If you have pipelined then it might be a different experience.
9. Language was not much of an issue. Basic English of girls or google translate always helped.
10. I would definitely recommend PP as a repeat destination basis of my single visit. I liked the change of pace and scenery. It does deserve a visit if you have not been here even once. I really liked it here despite the initial hiccups and enjoyed towards the end of my trip. Maybe the gods of Angkor what blessed me after the visit to SR. I surely will revisit and hope I am able to club Sihanoukville in my next trip.
To summarize my experience in Phnom Penh:
.Thanks for taking the time to write this report. Nice!
Illusionheart.
The $100 and $150 prices quoted there, Is that in US Dollar? Or Other?
Seems a bit on the high side, although I never been there.
Wolvenvacht
08-31-15, 07:23
Illusionheart.
The $100 and $150 prices quoted there, Is that in US Dollar? Or Other?
Seems a bit on the high side, although I never been there.In Cambodia all prices are indeed quoted in US Dollar. Even the ATMs give out USD rather than the local currency.
I have read before that Cambo ladies went for 25 to 40 USD. Has there been a big jump in what they are asking? For the price and their unwillingness to even kiss, they do not seem much of a draw.
Sorry if I am being a troll, it just seems based on the wonderful reports IH did, its very expensive to monger there now?
Member #4698
08-31-15, 13:13
The $100 and $150 prices quoted there, Is that in US Dollar? Seems a bit on the high side, although I never been there.Everthing is in Dollars except the change from a dollar.
There are plenty of Khmer girls that can be had for less than $100 in the $20 to $40 range, but its quite obvious Illusion Heart was looking for top quality and I am glad to see he found it. I want to thank him for his excellent reportage. What I have experienced with the top tier girls of Darling Darling is that after the first time (always $100/ ST) the girls became much less concerned with money and much more lovingly GFE. Their price was still fixed at $100 for some quirky reason, but ST morphed into LT without my even asking for it and the girls all wanted to see me again and again, LOL, which leads me to extrapolate that if I were an expat resident in Phnom Penh the girly prices would drop dramatically, girls would be texting me constantly asking if they could come over, and the issue of does she barfine or doesn't she barfine in reference to hostess girls would completely disappear. They would all barfine. Khmer girls are funny that way. The key thing to keep in mind therefor is: Phnom Penh is NOT like Pattaya or AC and I think you will be very disappointed if you expect click bang point and shoot service. Illusion Heart demonstrated in his report that he had the patience and wherewithal to deal with Khmer girl's idiosyncrasies and his patience paid off especially towards the end of his trip. I will have more to say about his trip report later.
IllusionHeart
08-31-15, 18:09
I have read before that Cambo ladies went for 25 to 40 USD. Has there been a big jump in what they are asking? For the price and their unwillingness to even kiss, they do not seem much of a draw.
Sorry if I am being a troll, it just seems based on the wonderful reports IH did, its very expensive to monger there now?JP, As confirmed by Wolvenvacht and Natty prices are in USD. I could never get my head around the local currency Riel but that is what I got when the transaction dropped below a dollar especially at 7/11 kinda stores or local restaurants. The conversion approx came to 4000 Riel: 1 USD.
Prices are expensive but I was looking for the best possible girl within a price range (ST max $100 and LT max $150). I never bargained ST cost at hostess bars when quoted $50. I guess you can try for $40ST + $10 BF which is definitely possible or even try $30, you might just get lucky. I would rather give that extra $10 for a chance of great experience. All the girls were extremely sweet and I never got any attitude or discomfort from them. Extremely humble and gave all attention without getting busy on their smartphones, maybe I was lucky.
Natty you were absolutely right. I did enjoy my stay there and am sure Uncle Volodya also did. It was more fun with him. We were like minded souls searching for common goal together.
Regarding Singapore update I had promised you: I got back to Singapore on friday and being in the mood i visited geylang and OT. The PRC houses were shut in Geylang due to some local chinese function but the Thai houses were open. Didnt find much to my liking. Streets were empty as the entire westerhout road was blocked and dinner arrangement was made on the road. I went to Ipanema in the night, few lookers there but the overall choice and nos were very low. Engaged with one and got a quote of 200 SGD ST. Didnt even bother bargaining as i wanted to get a feel of current price.
Went to Ipanema again on saturday night and it was a sausage fest. Trust me didnt even engage with a single girl. Mostly mature ones. Both days i had been around 11 pm onwards.
I guess i am gonna save my SGD 23 entry drink money for a future trip in November. Dont bother a stopover here unless you plan to visit Batam.
IH Wol and Natty.
Thanks for the info, enjoyed your story, great read.
Phnom Penh is best place to get good Viet girls, even better more convenient than HCM. I don't find Khmer girls attractive, I come here mostly for quality Viet girls. This trip spent a week and no problem getting really 2 beautiful Viet girl in Darling Darling. The first one was really sweet and beautiful, bought snack and beer on the way to hotel room with her own money. Kiss me all night that I could not sleep and did her a few rounds, never complained. Include morning shot bare shot out of condom. Ended up taking her 3 straight nights. 100 a night this Viet girl was worth it much more than these soapie girls in BKK or gogo in Cowboy. The third night I gave her 200, she appreciated so much she stayed till next evening and basically let me do anything and even insisted me to bare back her the last shot. I should not have done that again but with this kind of young fresh beauty, I am weak too weak.
I had to take 2 nights break due to very bad diarrhea that even Imodium could not stop. After stomach felt better, went back Darling Darling, saw the same Viet girl, but I told her I like to get a different girl, she was cool, even introduced her friends but not my type. Saw a few nice Khmer girls but I have decided to get another Viet girl. Many nice ones and hard to pick one. I pick another young Viet girl dressed in very high fashion with very expensive iPhone. Very sweet and gentle, she asked 150, but 100 was okay. After the first shot, she told me have to go to deliver something to another friend, she said she would come back morning for another shot. I let her go and paid her 100, I knew it's a runner, I never try to stop runner. But really surprised me she really came back the next day at 9 AM, and offer me her body, I was so hard on that morning, it was good, gave her another 40 as present of being so honest.
In my experiences these 100 USD up high classy ladies are worth their money, they know they have to provide happiness, they have been paid a great deal, be back for some more nice Viet girls in Nov.
I've been to Phnom Penh a few times, and for the most part I agree in that I don't find the girls in the streets too attractive. You won't find my turning my head too often there as compared with Thailand and the Philippines, but I can't ditch the feeling that there may be more to Phnom Penh than meets the eye. I read somewhere that the best girls are usually in the karaokes where the locals go and the game isn't straight forward nor guaranteed. Knowing the language would probably help a great deal.
Phnom Penh is best place to get good Viet girls, even better more convenient than HCM. I don't find Khmer girls attractive, I come here mostly for quality Viet girls. This trip spent a week and no problem getting really 2 beautiful Viet girl in Darling Darling. The first one was really sweet and beautiful, bought snack and beer on the way to hotel room with her own money. Kiss me all night that I could not sleep and did her a few rounds, never complained. Include morning shot bare shot out of condom. Ended up taking her 3 straight nights. 100 a night this Viet girl was worth it much more than these soapie girls in BKK or gogo in Cowboy. The third night I gave her 200, she appreciated so much she stayed till next evening and basically let me do anything and even insisted me to bare back her the last shot. I should not have done that again but with this kind of young fresh beauty, I am weak too weak.
I had to take 2 nights break due to very bad diarrhea that even Imodium could not stop. After stomach felt better, went back Darling Darling, saw the same Viet girl, but I told her I like to get a different girl, she was cool, even introduced her friends but not my type. Saw a few nice Khmer girls but I have decided to get another Viet girl. Many nice ones and hard to pick one. I pick another young Viet girl dressed in very high fashion with very expensive iPhone. Very sweet and gentle, she asked 150, but 100 was okay. After the first shot, she told me have to go to deliver something to another friend, she said she would come back morning for another shot. I let her go and paid her 100, I knew it's a runner, I never try to stop runner..
Wow. Great reports by Illusion Heart!! Very comprehensive!! Glad you enjoyed!
Was in in PP again on the way home this week and had an enjoyable time as usual. There is a lot more to Phnom Penh than meets the eye as Kazau says in the post below and it's the kind of place that pays to put in a bit of effort. On the strength of my last visit I headed straight back to Honeypot bar on street 130 which turned out to be a huge night and lots of laughs. Lot of very pretty girls, naughty and flirty and I ended up ringing the bell when I wasn't even drunk.! First time for everything! A lot of their girls seem new and my girl Niang (came from working in a shirt factory so was fresh and enjoying working in the bar and not really like many bar girls! I really liked that. I don't think you need to pay $100 (or more! To have a stunning girl with you all night!! Just don't expect it like Pattaya or Angeles where you walk in and seal the deal in 10 minutes - (except at Cyrcee where 10 minutes would be a long relationship. LOL!) Build some rapport and it will pay off.
Avoided Pontoon and had an an epic night at "Epic". Different class of Khmer girls there and not the place to wear flip flops and shorts. And you need to be careful to scout out if the girl is with a big spending group on locals before approaching but making an effort to be fun and buy a few rounds of drinks for a group of girls and one will go with you.
Did not have time to explore any more Karaokes but as I have said before, definitely a big pool of girls if you are prepared to invest a bit of time.
Cheers to all.
Bubba.
I know this question must make me sound like an old-timer, but what's going on with Martini's these days? Does it still exist? How does it compare to other places around town? What was great about that place back in the olden days was that you could be sure that every female in the place was there for one reason only, to get a customer. And it was ground central for all the freelancers in town, the ones available to foreigners at least.
I hear about Pontoon nowadays, has that completely replaced Martini's?
My last time in Cambodia was a few years ago, and I went there once every few years before that, sometimes up to a month, sometimes a week or 2, sometimes just a few days. Over that time, Martini's got worse and worse until the last time I was there it was barely worth visiting. Maybe one night there, but not again on a trip.
Muzungufotsy
09-16-15, 20:05
Martini is closed.
Martini is closed.Wow, when did that happen? By that time, was it so dead that it was barely noticed? Or did it go out with a bang? That place was from back in the early early days, the early 90's or so. I first went there in 2001, at its old location in the southwest corner of the city (off Mao Tse Tung Blvd). In those days, it was THE place in the city to go for us westerners.
Phnom Penh is best place to get good Viet girls, even better more convenient than HCM. I don't find Khmer girls attractive, I come here mostly for quality Viet girls. This trip spent a week and no problem getting really 2 beautiful Viet girl in Darling Darling. The first one was really sweet and beautiful, bought snack and beer on the way to hotel room with her own money. Kiss me all night that I could not sleep and did her a few rounds, never complained. Include morning shot bare shot out of condom. Ended up taking her 3 straight nights. 100 a night this Viet girl was worth it much more than these soapie girls in BKK or gogo in Cowboy. The third night I gave her 200, she appreciated so much she stayed till next evening and basically let me do anything and even insisted me to bare back her the last shot. I should not have done that again but with this kind of young fresh beauty, I am weak too weak.Um, yes it has always been the place for Viet girls. 100 USD now. Jeez. Back in the early 2000's they were 20 USD all night. 5 USD ST. That is a huge price increase. Amazing really.
Hollow Man
09-17-15, 16:44
Yes, as of September, Martinis's is officially closed. The lease ran out and the landlord wanted triple the last contract. Profit was already at a minimum so it's closed. Plenty of other places still though although I think this really stamps the end of an era.
Um, yes it has always been the place for Viet girls. 100 USD now. Jeez. Back in the early 2000's they were 20 USD all night. 5 USD ST. That is a huge price increase. Amazing really.100 is the rate for the high end ones in discos and some high class karaokes. It's crazy that many these high flyers are now trying to get 150ST. I was quoted many times at 150 first. I am sure not long from now it could be the standard rate. Phnom Penh is surely getting more and more expensive. Any reasonable looking lady will try to get at least 70 LT now in clubs, hostess bars or discos. Bargain seems getting harder and harder.
For Viet girls, there are still virtually 100's of brothels disguised as salon, coffee shops, restaurants, I think the Khmer locals still can get it for 15, but I have been a few times these Viet houses in Phnom Penh, and always paid 25-30. Never got anything under that, but tuk tuk driver told me locals get for 15 but foreigners pay about double. I have seen some very doable ones but the risk is higher because you do the deeds inside, there are all kinds of cheats and scams happened to foriegners in these Viet houses. I still feel a little uneasy when I visit these Viet joints alone. The Svay Pak era was much more honest back then.
Phnom Penh is nice to hang out, not the cheap sex capital anymore, there is no more 5 dollar yum yum house, the cheapest you can get is 15-30 high risk Viet joints.
Uncle Volodya
09-18-15, 06:12
Thanks for the kind words my friend. You definitely made my trip. It would have been a lot less fun if we hadn't met up. I have found a kindrid spirit indeed.
I promise to get my report up soon. I basically agree with 100% of what you've written. But may be my impressions here and there will be a little different.
I liked PP and think it deserves another visit. Though it will always be behind Patts, BKK and AC in my list of preferences. In retrospect I think that maybe we needed to focus on Darling Darling more. But we had a very short time to explore together. I hoep we can make that up soon!
Huge hugs,
Uncle-V.
JP, As confirmed by Wolvenvacht and Natty prices are in USD. I could never get my head around the local currency Riel but that is what I got when the transaction dropped below a dollar especially at 7/11 kinda stores or local restaurants. The conversion approx came to 4000 Riel: 1 USD.
Prices are expensive but I was looking for the best possible girl within a price range (ST max $100 and LT max $150). I never bargained ST cost at hostess bars when quoted $50. I guess you can try for $40ST + $10 BF which is definitely possible or even try $30, you might just get lucky. I would rather give that extra $10 for a chance of great experience. All the girls were extremely sweet and I never got any attitude or discomfort from them. Extremely humble and gave all attention without getting busy on their smartphones, maybe I was lucky.
Natty you were absolutely right. I did enjoy my stay there and am sure Uncle Volodya also did. It was more fun with him. We were like minded souls searching for common goal together.
Regarding Singapore update I had promised you: I got back to Singapore on friday and being in the mood i visited geylang and OT. The PRC houses were shut in Geylang due to some local chinese function but the Thai houses were open. Didnt find much to my liking. Streets were empty as the entire westerhout road was blocked and dinner arrangement was made on the road. I went to Ipanema in the night, few lookers there but the overall choice and nos were very low. Engaged with one and got a quote of 200 SGD ST. Didnt even bother bargaining as i wanted to get a feel of current price.
Went to Ipanema again on saturday night and it was a sausage fest. Trust me didnt even engage with a single girl. Mostly mature ones. Both days i had been around 11 pm onwards.
I guess i am gonna save my SGD 23 entry drink money for a future trip in November. Dont bother a stopover here unless you plan to visit Batam.
Juicyclamlover
09-18-15, 06:17
Arrived in PP at 5 pm last Friday and after eating went to 136 Street around 8 pm.
Started off in Sizzlers and then did a bar trawl through to Honeypot and Loco in 130 Street.
Plenty of girls in most of the bars so immediately surrounded when walking in so you have to be selective as they all want to get in on the LDs.
I know well that choice is a subjective matter but I found plenty of girls good enough to my taste and most spoke English quite well.
The girls seemed much more laid back in their approach and I found this quite charming and most seemed to have a good sense of humour.
I did go to the Golden Vine, 108 Street on my way to 136 Street on the 2nd night but I found the atmosphere not to my liking so only stayed for 1 beer.
I BF'd a girl from the 136 bar in 136 Street, BF 10 USD and she was more than happy to go for 50 USD for LT, full service except A.
My 2 companions got the same deal, again 1 girl from the 136 bar and the other was from the Xanadu bar next door.
We kept the same girls for the weekend and as a first time visitor I throughly enjoyed the experience and it made a refreshing change from scene in BKK and Patts.
I shall return later in the year to explore further.
Yes, as of September, Martinis's is officially closed. The lease ran out and the landlord wanted triple the last contract. Profit was already at a minimum so it's closed. Plenty of other places still though although I think this really stamps the end of an era.Was business pretty dead there near the end? I was there about 2 years ago and the number and quality of girls available there was drastically worse than on previous visits. In early 2000's it was the best place in town to hook up with a girl, by far.
On my last ever visit, I spotted ONE kind of strange girl there who I thought was hot. She was tall and lean, pretty face, and she only stayed at one of the outside tables near the entrance, she would not go inside to the courtyard or dance floor. She seemed standoffish. And actually when I approached her to try to talk, she brushed me off, not interested. With that, at about 11 pm, I gave up on the place and moved on. I bounced around town from bar to bar and did not connect with anything the rest of the night. Finally I went home by motorbike taxi, and as I was getting dropped off in front of my guesthouse, who is walking in front of the entrance but this exact same girl. I said Hello,. This time, very different attitude. I asked Where you go? Within a minute we had agreed to her coming to visit me upstairs. She was actually quite good, generous, all good. She didn't want to leave. I had an early morning flight (stupid scheduling!) and was just far too tired to do any more, so I had to kick her out. Half an hour after she left, a knock on my door, she wanted to know if she could stay the night. Ugh. I wasn't too comfortable with that, had no more energy to screw, so had to say no. A pity because she was really quite hot and good in bed.
The good old days: at one of the old locations there was a short time hotel across the parking lot. You could negotiate a quickie short time for about $10. I think that was the 2nd location, maybe some veterans here can help on this (or else the first location remodeled.).
Martini, Rest in PPeace.
Arrived in PP at 5 pm last Friday and after eating went to 136 Street around 8 pm.
Started off in Sizzlers and then did a bar trawl through to Honeypot and Loco in 130 Street.
Plenty of girls in most of the bars so immediately surrounded when walking in so you have to be selective as they all want to get in on the LDs.
I know well that choice is a subjective matter but I found plenty of girls good enough to my taste and most spoke English quite well.
The girls seemed much more laid back in their approach and I found this quite charming and most seemed to have a good sense of humour.
I did go to the Golden Vine, 108 Street on my way to 136 Street on the 2nd night but I found the atmosphere not to my liking so only stayed for 1 beer.
I BF'd a girl from the 136 bar in 136 Street, BF 10 USD and she was more than happy to go for 50 USD for LT, full service except A.
My 2 companions got the same deal, again 1 girl from the 136 bar and the other was from the Xanadu bar next door.
We kept the same girls for the weekend and as a first time visitor I throughly enjoyed the experience and it made a refreshing change from scene in BKK and Patts.
I shall return later in the year to explore further.Interesting report 'Juicyclamlover'.
In which hotel did you stay and do you remember you the rate?
Just wanted to warn that Frangipani Royal Palace hotel is not girl-friendly. It is located near the river, mid-priced and gets otherwise good reviews on Tripadvisor.
Upon checking-in, the staff tell guests that "outside guests to the room are not allowed".
The good old days: at one of the old locations there was a short time hotel across the parking lot.
Martini, Rest in PPeace.I seem to recall that one, I think at the 2nd location. There was also a massage parlor next door, run by a Thai mamasan. She had a nice selection of Thai and Viet girls. This was before the Khmer girls really started getting into the game.
Speaking of the end of an era, Cathouse also closed down a few months ago and has already been gutted. That and Martini were pretty much the only places in town when I first got there back in the UNTAC days. Not even Sharky was going yet. Sigh. . . .
Juicyclamlover
09-23-15, 01:38
Interesting report 'Juicyclamlover'.
In which hotel did you stay and do you remember you the rate?I stayed at the Sundance Inn and Saloon on 172 Street, I paid 28 USD a night.
Cheers JCL.
I seem to recall that one, I think at the 2nd location. There was also a massage parlor next door, run by a Thai mamasan. She had a nice selection of Thai and Viet girls. This was before the Khmer girls really started getting into the game.
Speaking of the end of an era, Cathouse also closed down a few months ago and has already been gutted. That and Martini were pretty much the only places in town when I first got there back in the UNTAC days. Not even Sharky was going yet. Sigh. . . .It was the very first place I ever picked up at in Cambodia. I heard about it before arriving, took the bus from Saigon to PP in pouring rain, that horrible road back in 2001, the trip took all day, we arrived around 6 or 7 pm in a driving down pour to the Capitol Guesthouse. I was slow getting off the bus (minivan really, packed tight, a very creaky one that bounced around all day over the potholes and driving through deep water and sliding in thick mud) and so there were no decent rooms left, though there was the choice of heading out into that monsoon to try to get a room at another nearby guesthouse, which would mean becoming as wet as a fish immediately. Anyway, my only option was the $1 room. The top price of $5 was scary enough. I took it. Brought up there, it was basically a prison cell. The bed was a plain metal frame with a thin mattress on it, no sheets or pillow (I think they brought a pillow later) and that's all in a cement room with no windows. The bathroom was dirty and just a toilet and small sink, also a cheap cold water only very basic shower attached to the wall. There were some small openings about one foot long and maybe 4 inches high up near the ceiling, the only way air could get into the room when the door was closed.
But that night I got on a motorbike and was whisked off to the old original Martini. The offerings didn't seem to attractive, especially not after seeing so many great hotties in Saigon in previous days. Finally at about 2 am or so I spotted a very cute (18) and a bit buxom Khmer girl with dark complexion, very pretty, and worked out the deal for $20 overnight. Back on my prison bed she was very starfish. Pretty uneventful, and I was so tired by then that I couldn't give my best effort, wanted to sleep. I don't remember if she really stayed the whole night or not. But I remember how incredible it seemed knowing that one could have this, such a hot girl, for just $20 for the whole night. It didn't occur to me then that that scene wouldn't even last a couple more years. It kept going, but the prices gradually climbed up, other types of places opened and drained off the talent and now it's gone for good.
Hi folks,
Planning to go to PP soon for the first time.
Any recommendations for a high end hotel that is guest friendly?
I know most requests are for inexpensive places but cost is not really a consideration, so I would like the nicest place possible that is also guest friendly.
Don't worry I will bargain appropriately when out on the town. Not looking to drive inflation.
But for accommodation, I would like a hotel that's as nice / upscale as possible while also allowing guests.
Thanks for any advice.
Bill
Cathouse also closed down a few months ago and has already been gutted. That and Martini were pretty much the only places in town when I first got there back in the UNTAC days. Not even Sharky was going yet. Sigh. . . .I am on my way to Phnom Penh again, second time in a month and half, something is attracting me there. About the Viet joints, they are still everywhere, now they are disguised as all sort of shops. Last trip I rode a motorbike around town and found many them as salon shops, massage shops, and restaurants. These joints usually have 3-5 ladies, but I heard from other expats stealing and scams are rampant. If you ride a motorcycle slowly around town, and see some guy waves at you or call out to you, it's probably Viet joint.
I know the local price is 15, but I never was able to bargain down to that. A motodop driver I know before wants to take me to some newly open Viet joints outside of town this coming trip. I will see how it goes.
I am on my way to Phnom Penh again, second time in a month and half, something is attracting me there. About the Viet joints, they are still everywhere, now they are disguised as all sort of shops. Last trip I rode a motorbike around town and found many them as salon shops, massage shops, and restaurants. These joints usually have 3-5 ladies, but I heard from other expats stealing and scams are rampant. If you ride a motorcycle slowly around town, and see some guy waves at you or call out to you, it's probably Viet joint.
I know the local price is 15, but I never was able to bargain down to that. A motodop driver I know before wants to take me to some newly open Viet joints outside of town this coming trip. I will see how it goes.Shin,
I will be heading out to PP in 2 weeks. Let me know if you want to monger out.
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Fast Eddie 48
09-24-15, 00:49
Hi folks,
Planning to go to PP soon for the first time.
Any recommendations for a high end hotel that is guest friendly?
I know most requests are for inexpensive places but cost is not really a consideration, so I would like the nicest place possible that is also guest friendly.
Don't worry I will bargain appropriately when out on the town. Not looking to drive inflation.
But for accommodation, I would like a hotel that's as nice / upscale as possible while also allowing guests.
Thanks for any advice.
BillTo Billy.
The Naga World hotel and entertainment complex one of the nicest and new hotel on the river front. It have a casino, Sauna, KTV and a night club with FL inside the hotel room is under 100 usd a night hotel here is cheap by average compare to Bangkok.
Fast eddie 48.
I stayed at the Sundance Inn and Saloon on 172 Street, I paid 28 USD a night.
Cheers JCL.Thanks JCL.
To Billy.
The Naga World hotel and entertainment complex one of the nicest and new hotel on the river front. It have a casino, Sauna, KTV and a night club with FL inside the hotel room is under 100 usd a night hotel here is cheap by average compare to Bangkok.
Fast eddie 48.That sounds very nice actually. They will allow guests for sure?
Have you ever stayed there? Do they have good internet?
Thanks again for the input, will post report if I wind up going there.
Thanks!
Bill.
I have been in Phnom Penh for 2 days. This trip I wanted to check some places outside the tourist zones. I tried a few tuk tuk drivers, but most of them take me to these small Viet joints disguised as other business or massage parlours, one young tuktuk took me to some place near airport with karaoke style setting, there I found a ridiculously cute Cambodian girl. I think I paid much more than locals pay and the tuk tuk commission on top, I paid her to go a day and half from 10 PM to next 7 PM, I felt a bit wasted the money, 180 USD, that was all I could get down from 250 they demanded. But the girl must be poor still using these phone that has no color or picture function. And her pussy seems quite big compare her age. And she completely clueless about the most basic English. A GF session half condom then half bb because she saw I could not come, she took off for me. I got bored after one shot, her English level was non existent, I set her free at 3 AM, try to ask me taxi money 10, but I refused.
Next day, I found a shop near Russian market advertise as karaoke, but there were 8 Viet girls, 2 were very doable, but the papasan does not allow over night, allow ST outside visit, I took one to my room for 60, I still prefer Viet, they simply more fun in bed than Khmer. The night went to Darling, and had the worst session from there in about 15 tries. I did not pick the girl but this Khmer girl was next to me at the bar, and danced and rubbed her pussy on my knees, I thought she would be a good performer, I was wrong, the first early runner I had in Cambodia. 100 USD for WTF 40 min, terrible BBBJ, and phone rang all the time. I think next 3 days, I would not pick Khmer girl, I just focus on Viet, personally I always have more fun with Viet.
I think next 3 days, I would not pick Khmer girl, I just focus on Viet, personally I always have more fun with Viet.To me it sounds like you happened to have some bad luck with some girls who happened to be Cambodian, and good luck with ones who happened to be Vietnamese. I think it's inevitable that you'll have good luck with a Cambodian girl if you keep meeting them, and likewise bad luck with a Vietnamese one. In other words, there's no hard rule that Cambodian girls are bad and Vietnamese are good. I've had fantastic Cambodian girls, and Vietnamese girls from hell, in Phnom Penh. Bad luck comes with the territory in this hobby. But so does good luck. Only way to get that is to dust oneself off and get back out there. I surely wouldn't advise ruling out pursuit of Cambodian girls in Cambodia.
To me it sounds like you happened to have some bad luck with some girls who happened to be Cambodian, and good luck with ones who happened to be Vietnamese. I think it's inevitable that you'll have good luck with a Cambodian girl if you keep meeting them, and likewise bad luck with a Vietnamese one. In other words, there's no hard rule that Cambodian girls are bad and Vietnamese are good. I've had fantastic Cambodian girls, and Vietnamese girls from hell.Good thing is that I never had any horrendous session in Cambodia, at least all forgivable at worst. Unlike in Thailand I really had quite a few temper flaring experiences. In my experience in Cambodia, Khmers girls lots of them don't BJ at all and others give very very bad BJ at best, I rarely got satisfying BJ from Khmer. Also more shy, like they insist take shower alone or cover up with towels all the time and hurriedly sneak in the blanket, things like that kind of turn me off. But may turn on for others. Viet girls in my experiences, laugh more, more open, give good BJ, and for me they are more attractive in appearance than Khmers.
I will keep trying Khmer if I find cute ones since I am in Cambo, but will take more Viets since more guarantee for me.
I was walking around the riverside, there is a street I think parallel to 130, maybe the next one, there are many very local karaoke KTV with Viet or Khmers girls, I walked by and inquired, they all reluctant to showed me inside at first, some even waved me away, but several pimps outside finally let me in, all these shops had about 4-6 ladies mixed Viet / Khmer, with rooms inside, they all tried to rip me off, 40-60 Usd they told, I know locals pay 15 or less, but I saw one really out of place extreme cute Viet girl again, the pimp insisted 60, but after 10 min bargain, best I could do was 50, and crap I saw a local guy came in and pay 15 and the pimp was trying to hide the amount from me, the room was quite dirty, I requested to go outside ST room also worry of getting wallet stolen, plus 10, pimp took us on his bike to a nearby ST room.
This girl was so pretty, just turned 18 got her first passport, and came with another girl, but I think has been scouted by Chinese, going to work in Macau soon. She was very patient chatting with me through google translate. Ended up going back her shop one hour late, the pimp charged me extra 20. I negotiated all night tomorrow from 10 PM to noon, pimp won't release her earlier than that, cost 120. No hidden gems stay long here. Found one use it as much as you can before it disappears.
I will keep trying Khmer if I find cute ones since I am in Cambo, but will take more Viets since more guarantee for me.
I was walking around the riverside, ...Yeah as I remember on certain ones I hooked up with in Cambodia in the past, one was a super fine little one I got from Martini, Khmer, great attitude, though I can't remember whether she did BJ or not. Once I got two Khmer girls, again Martini, one had terrible attitude and the other was maybe my best (Khmer) ever, in terms of attitude at least. Naturaly the other one was cuter. Oh well. They were pals and wanted to go together if I'd take them, my eye was on the tall thin one in the club, then when I got them in the light of the room I thought holy f*ing crow, her little friend is amazingly hot. Made the mistake of doing the tall one first and blowing load there, didn't have the oomph to do the little one right after that. Couldn't get it up, basically. It was like, how can I not get it up for this one? The idea of both of them together seemed great at the club. But back in the room, whoever's turn it wasn't would wait in the bathroom, their idea. Khmer threesome they call that, I think. For what it's worth, the tall one just wanted to do it again and again and again and again, finally I asked her to leave late afternoon of the next day. For some reason my Viets in PP aren't as memorable. My Viets in Vietnam, whole other story.
You might be right about the tendencies of Khmer and Viet girls, in Cambodia at least. Back in the day, that would have been because the Viets were being brought in (from Mekong area mainly) and were being trained, thus had the skills and willingness. But that's been mostly blocked, as far as I know, for years now, so I'm not sure why these days the Viets would be such better performers.
Almost forgot, good find with that karaoke. I finally got braver on later visits and found some places like that, one was a kind of fishbowl upstairs with 10 or so girls, guys sitting on sofas around the room outside. Nothing great. Cheap, at that time, $10 or $15. But one of the most soulless experiences you could find. I decided not to try. Had I seen one like you found in the fishbowl it might have turned out different.
Fast Eddie 48
09-27-15, 00:24
That sounds very nice actually. They will allow guests for sure?
Have you ever stayed there? Do they have good internet?
Thanks again for the input, will post report if I wind up going there.
Thanks!
Bill.To Billy.
The Naga are girl friendly that is why they call it the Entertaiment complex you got all the action there, There are not many hotel in PP that are not girl friend only one I know is the Raffle that is a classy hotel.
Fast eddie 48.
CharmingGuy1
09-27-15, 09:26
Hello friends,
I am new here and from Singapore. I am planning a 10 day vacation in either Pattaya / Bangkok OR Cambodia (Siem Reap / Phnom Penh).
Now I have been to Bangkok last year and the girls there were good but a little rude. My question is:
How is the sex scene in Siem Reap / Phnom Penh compared to Bangkok? Non existent or very bad or good enough? If I stay in Siem for 3 days, how easy is it to get variety of girls for night to my hotel? If I can get girls easily (I am brown skinned and not white farang), I will not go to Bangkok this time and just go to Siem Reap / Phnom Penh. That way, I can also visit Angkor what!
At Robertbsm: Can you please PM me sir about your girls details?
Thank you.
I was free all day until 10 PM to pick up my little Viet girl I booked yesterday. I rode my motorbike around town, and found just incredibly many brothel joints in camouflage. In the BKK 1 area I found some joints disguised as coffee shops. There was one shop on a side street of Mao Tse Tung Avenue advertised as Vietnam coffee, so went in and felt the vibe was strange. There were 5 waitresses and a several smiled at me. I ordered a ice coffee and tried to chat with the waitresses, and confirmed it is also a sex joint. I realized the girls and an older lady probably the mama were discussing how much to quote me. One of the lady said in English 40. But I said 30, they accepted without hesitation, so must be cheaper like 15-20. If locals pay 15-20, I am willing to pay 10-15 more, because these places do not need our business, actually they think we foriegners are a annoyance to their business and a danger to their business. To me it's a privilege to enter their hidden realm, so I do not mind to pay a little more for the special prvilege.
All these girls are doable, no one is special but all young and tight. My girl offer BBBJ for extra 5, even mention BB for extra 20, did not take the offer but I did not come, was a bit nervous looking closely at my wallet and mobile.
On the way back to my hotel near Sorya Mall, I found another suspicious restaurant with 4 ladies sitting inside, the sign is Khmer I think they serve hot pot. I went in to check and I wanted to order, but could feel the vibe it's not really a food place. There was 1 cute one, I asked I want to order food, but seems they only have drink, ordered a Cambodia beer, I pointed to the cute one the finger sign upstairs, there was no mama or papa at that time, only the 4 ladies, she used fingers sign to tell me 25 ok ok, I paid 25 and she took me to the back room, I felt easier here because no pimp around, we chatted a bit with google, she is new to Cambo she said she goes home after 2 months and not coming back. I had trouble come again, and again these Viet girls always just rip off your condom and stick it in, I feel bad that I bareback several already in this pattern. I decided next time, I don't come I just use hand or leave it. Gave her 20 tip. She was very happy.
The traditional brothels are mostly closed, but all these joints in different camouflage sprung up in every part of the city. Must be very convenient for these local guys. This is really heaven.
The traditional brothels are mostly closed, but all these joints in different camouflage sprung up in every part of the city. Must be very convenient for these local guys. This is really heaven.This is a good discovery. Just an idea, but do you think you could share the location of one of these places? This way someone can go have a look and then have the know-how to be able to recognize them elsewhere.
So after my last posting and replies of FFS-RTFT.
I did!
In fact I have read the entire 95 pages of the 2002-2006 PP locked thread.
And the last 25-30 pages of the most recent threads.
As there are over 400 pages in the new thread I won't be reading every single one of them.
And I think I have read enough of them now to come back and ask some questions as to the missing gaps / dates of the 400 pages I have not read.
I read in the first section that the prices where $5-$10 dollar ST and $15-$20 LT.
But looking at the most recent 25 pages it would appear that the prices have gone up 500% making it just a little bit cheaper to go then stay at home.
Has this little secret corner of the world now been exposed by NGOs (disguised new age plastic aristocratic civil servants IMHO because 99% of the.
Charity funds come from western governments; UK class example) and are now a big tourists haven of false pretenses just like rip off Thailand.
Because if it is $40/$50 dollars for ST I will stay at home or go ells where not for a 40 yo fat old hag.
But I need to find out more information before I make that decision and ask some question about the postings I have read.
Also at the beginning it was stated not to pay more then 1000 riel for a moto ride as the average earnings in Cambodia are or where a dollar a day.
And later I hear of people paying $4/$5 dollar for this. So what is the crack?
As I have been reading the Cambodia classified section and there are a few recommended moto drivers; how much should I be prepared to offer them?
Sihanoukvilla.
I will start with my questions on Sihanoukvilla as there seams to be a lot of chicken farms hear.
Is Sihanoukvilla still the place it was or is that too just a former shadow of its self.
Is the chicken farm near king gold hotel still in operation?
3 names of different chicken farms in Sihanukilla I can't make much sense out of are.
1. In thmei village. Called koh kong's, not sure if this is correct or not, but dose this make any sense.
2. phoum thmey village: near the koh kong ferry or chicken farm by docks.
3. Punsahmi, called the Chicken Village.
Is The Fisherman den bar and The Angkor inn still open and as I have been told a good place to stop for good advice?
And is the go cart track still there with the crazy French nutter who live there?
More questions on chicken farms (PP).
I also read that chicken farms are a good cheap spot to get laid but are filthy hell holes.
Is the chicken farm behind the back of 'port Sville' still there?
I also read 'AKA the farm' but could not make much out of it. Is AKA a place or chicken farm or have I miss read it?
Is there a chicken farm called Viet farms on Omuni st?
Now some questions on bars from the past in PP.
I read about tual kork or Toul Kork near to the French embassy in early threads and read it was the next best thing to that little village.
10-12 km north of the city that is now closed.
I red people saying they where going to close it for years but they never did. Is this place still up and running?
I read allot about street 63 and what a rip off con set up end of holiday end of life it can be.
But is 'Samdach Sothearos' still there? (I think it was on street 63).
And also Street 63 go down past the Central Market 200 meters down the street I heard 5 good brothels. Are they still there?
And is flamingo's still going?
I also read that Sophie was a hot bed and a popular place (but a little grotty) Is this place still going?
The Golden Vine, how is this place now?
What about the 'Navy club' is it still the relocated spot of the now debunked little village north of the city.
And massage parlors on Street 63 was the left overs of the defunct village of the north?
I'm a bit confused with this name 'Sovann' near the water front; is it a club?
Another name of a club I could not get the gist of was 'heaven on earth' or is it "Cambodia, heaven on earth".
I'm going to put my Doubting Thomas hat on and presume they all have been raided and closed down by now.
Or do they just move onto somewhere ells or is that it once and for all. The fascist regime the NGOs' have finally one?
But on a good note I read before that Sharkys, Walkabout and Martini's was the place to be then and still is the place to be now.
So I guess these 3 bars are the best in town right. So which one out of the 3 would you recommend me?
I will keep my questions about the most recent stuff I have read at the bottom of the page.
Has anyone noticed girls being traded off the back of motorcycles at Monivong and Victory monument?
Dose anyone have any experience / info on Sisowath Quay near the Cambodia-Japan Friendship Bridge?
Some good parlors nearby so I have read, anyone ells been down?
Is Lin still selling books along the riverfront?
Of course if the whole PP thing is not going to be to my liking then other places must be considered.
I read on hear before that the quality is going to be much better in Jakarta in Indonesia!
And Iraq was also mentioned as a country safer and better then Cambodia.
Of course if anyone is in fragrance with this I will start reading the correct forums.
And finally I would like to discuss friends and wingmen.
Some where you can eat and drink in peace and quiet with out being hounded by girls selling themselves all the time.
The last time I went mongering I had a wingman that always got me the best price with the girl possible, and that was not white mans price ever.
But this guy was seen as a pain in the ass as far as the locals in the town where concerned.
Trouble was what ever I saved on the girls I compensated on buying him drinks all night so not a winner rely.
But if I do decide to go I would like to meat up with a few good people and get myself a decent moto driver from the classified section on this site.
I have read there is a bar or hotel called California 2 owned by Jim; whom is a good honest source of information; is this still going?
Is The Red Fox still full of x-patts?
And the name "dy borima" mean anything?
Many thanks.
James02
This post shows how quick developments go over a couple of years, and how useless it is to ask any questions of situations and circumstances from some years ago. Reading all the way back is fine to get an impression of history and the past. Most of your questions are out dated. Just go, and get the experience as your q's cannot be properly answered. Sorry!
I read in the first section that the prices where $5-$10 dollar ST and $15-$20 LT.
But looking at the most recent 25 pages it would appear that the prices have gone up 500% making it just a little bit cheaper to go then stay at home.
Because if it is $40/$50 dollars for ST I will stay at home or go ells where not for a 40 yo fat old hag.The $5 ST prices were from 2004. Prices has gone up a lot (petro has gone up from $1 a gallon to $5. Vegetables in the local market was gone up dramatically). LE Cryee girls will be $35 or $40 for ST. But the differences will be huge if you compare the girls from LE Cryee and California's Long Beach Blvd, where an ugly skank will be $40 - $60. You probably can get an old, ugly skank for $5. People write you can get decent girls at Naga for approx. $100. Prices for cute girls in the West will be more.
Also at the beginning it was stated not to pay more then 1000 riel for a moto ride as the average earnings in Cambodia are or where a dollar a day.
And later I hear of people paying $4/$5 dollar for this. So what is the crack?Need to understand the timeline. The $1 a day numbers are from 2004. Garment workers earn between $120 - $180 a month. $4/5 per ride is way too much, unless it is a long ride. I take tuk tuks. 5000 riel is local cost for normal ride. I pay 6000 riel for short rides, $2 for normal rides, and $2. 50-$3 for long rides. Not sure of the cost of moto dops. Maybe between 1500 to 2500 riel for normal rides? Of course as a tourist, they will expect / demand $1.
Is Sihanoukvilla still the place it was or is that too just a former shadow of its self.
I also read that chicken farms are a good cheap spot to get laid but are filthy hell holes.Former shadow of itself, but there are still activities to be had.
Yes, chicken farms are cheap, but filthy.
Is the chicken farm behind the back of 'port Sville' still there?
I also read 'AKA the farm' but could not make much out of it. Is AKA a place or chicken farm or have I miss read it?People have written that chicken farm is still there behind the port. I haven't been there in 10 years.
AKA is an acronym for "Also Known As".
I read allot about street 63 and what a rip off con set up end of holiday end of life it can be.Those old massage places on Street 63 are closed. There might be other brothel places inside of hair salons and / or upstairs around that area.
And is flamingo's still going?Flamingos is a 2 star hotel, near Walkabout, Pontoon and Heart of Darkness, Sorya Mall. Good location. It's still there.
I also read that Sophie was a hot bed and a popular place (but a little grotty) Is this place still going?It was closed many years ago.
I'm a bit confused with this name 'Sovann' near the water front; is it a club?Sovann is a common name for Cambodian men.
But on a good note I read before that Sharkys, Walkabout and Martini's was the place to be then and still is the place to be now.
So I guess these 3 bars are the best in town right. So which one out of the 3 would you recommend me?Someone wrote that Martinis recently closed.
Who the heck wrote these 3 bars were the best. That statement probably was written before 2004. The "best bars" depends on what you want / like.
Has anyone noticed girls being traded off the back of motorcycles at Monivong and Victory monument?Those are probably freelancers with their pimps. Those girls are not recommended for most people. Cheaper than the hostess bars. Bad service, rip-offs etc. Even the locals have trouble. But, you might find a diamond in the rough.
Dose anyone have any experience / info on Sisowath Quay near the Cambodia-Japan Friendship Bridge?There are / were local massage parlors, along the riverside below the Friendship bridge. Cheap, but ugly girls. Near tried it. Girls were too ugly.
Is Lin still selling books along the riverfront?Lin is a command name for Cambodian females. One Lin used to sell books. Now she's a little older. She has a kid. Not so pretty anymore, after getting older and having a kid.
And Iraq was also mentioned as a country safer and better then Cambodia.Ridiculous statement. Only applies if you compare 1996 Cambodia (before UN came in).
I have read there is a bar or hotel called California 2 owned by Jim; whom is a good honest source of information; is this still going?I also got help from Jim on my first trip to Cambodia. His hotel riverside was closed, but he opened another one away from the riverside. My guess is that he is still around. Google to find hotel.
Is The Red Fox still full of x-patts?Yes. It is on Street 136.
The $5 ST prices were from 2004. Prices has gone up a lot (petro has gone up from $1 a gallon to $5. Vegetables in the local market was gone up dramatically). LE Cryee girls will be $35 or $40 for ST. But the differences will be huge if you compare the girls from LE Cryee and California's Long Beach Blvd, where an ugly skank will be $40 - $60. You probably can get an old, ugly skank for $5. People write you can get decent girls at Naga for approx. $100. Prices for cute girls in the West will be more.
Need to understand the timeline. The $1 a day numbers are from 2004. Garment workers earn between $120 - $180 a month. $4/5 per ride is way too much, unless it is a long ride. I take tuk tuks. 5000 riel is local cost for normal ride. I pay 6000 riel for short rides, $2 for normal rides, and $2. 50-$3 for long rides. Not sure of the cost of moto dops. Maybe between 1500 to 2500 riel for normal rides? Of course as a tourist, they will expect / demand $1.
Former shadow of itself, but there are still activities to be had.
Yes, chicken farms are cheap, but filthy.
People have written that chicken farm is still there behind the port. I haven't been there in 20 years.
AKA is an acronym for "Also Known As".
Those old massage places on Street 63 are closed. There might be other brothel places inside of hair salons / and or upstairs around that area.
Flamingos is a 2 star hotel, near Walkabout, Pontoon and Heart of Darkness, Sorya Mall. Good location. It's still there.
It was closed many years ago.
Sovann is a common name for Cambodian men.
Someone wrote that Martinis recently closed.
Who the heck wrote these 3 bars were the best. That statement probably was written before 2004. The "best bars" depends on what you want / like.
Those are probably freelancers with their pimps. Those girls are not recommended for most people. Cheaper than the hostess bars. Bad service, rip-offs etc. Even the locals have trouble. But, you might find a diamond in the rough.
There are / were local massage parlors, along the riverside below the Friendship bridge. Cheap, but ugly girls. Near tried it. Girls were too ugly.
Lin is a command name for Cambodian females. One Lin used to sell books. Now she's a little older. She has a kid. Not so pretty anymore, after getting older and having a kid.
Ridiculous statement. Only applies if you compare 1996 Cambodia (before UN came in).
I also got help from Jim on my first trip to Cambodia. His hotel riverside was closed, but he opened another one away from the riverside. My guess is that he is still around. Google to find hotel.
Yes. It is on Street 136.Went on my first trip to PP in '99. Have not been for almost 10 years. All of the information provided above is exactly why I have no sites on returning.
I just finished my Phnom Penh trip. I just quote a few prices for reference. Phnom Penh is definitely overall more expensive than Thailand or Myanmar.
First the food is really expensive and not very tasty. A ordinary meal in a more cleaner restaurant minimum 5-6 dollars plus drink 1-2 dollars. I personally spend about 10 for a meal in cleaner places, try to avoid diarrhea is important. Tuk tuk cost 1. 5 short ride. 2-3 for longer ride. Example from Sorya to Naga 3, Sorya to riverside 2. Motodop is 1 anywhere within the center.
Hotel is the only thing that is not expensive, you can get nice clean rooms from 20 up. Girl price, in the tourist market, decent looking girl from Pontoon 50 up, not too attractive 30 up, decent or not decent girl from Darling or tourist karaoke like Casa 100 up. I have never found a girl willing to go under that. Street 136,130 bars, decent looking ones 40 up plus 10 BF, not so good lookers will go for 30. LE Cyrcee 30-40.
The local market, when I was there, I could not find any what Phnom street walkers, seems like there was a crack down, but you can get street walkers for 30 or less if you find them. I found some more north near the Japan bridge, 20-30 dollars, some look young, but the atmosphere does not look very safe, as I mentioned already there are hundreds of local joints advertised as hair salon, coffee shops, restaurants, grocery stores, massages, KTVs, ect, I think locals pay 15-20. When you play in the local joints, be careful your wallet, better put under your pillow, or just bring a little money. I did not experience anything but lots expats I talked to warn me.
I will start by saying that I'm not in PP and have not been for a few years but have kept up with it a bit via this thread and other ways.
Martini of course just closed. From what I've heard, Walkabout is a dim shadow of its former self, not even worth a visit compared to many other places these days. Same for Sharky if it is still there. LE Cyrcee is one of the spots from a ways back that is still there, though again I can't say how good it is now, maybe other here can. K11 had been shut down, but may have come back in some form or other, lesser for sure, but honestly that place was pretty evil and should be struck from your list. There were very good reasons for it to be shut down. Basically the truly sick stuff you hear of regarding Cambodia and or Southeast Asia was in full blossom at that place. How sick you don't even want to know. There was a Mr Sovann who was a driver often posting here, offering his services, and if I remember correctly he met his fate at the hands of the authorities, and let's just say he isn't in the driving business any more. Reasons related to the above. So for that 2003 and earlier period, there isn't much left these days of what was big then. It's a whole new place with all new scenes and venues.
HOw many days are you going? I'd just start from scratch and build up a new list of places to check out. Streets 104,130, 136, etc. Pontoon. Darling Darling. Perhaps Cyrcee. Maybe you can dig up some less famous cheaper options to pad things out.
I have to say, the Martinis heydey was excellent because it was the one giant magnet for working girls in the city, so you didn't really need to go somewhere else. And so cheap, $20 overnight, you could never beat that. And in my opinion, for mongering, S'ville was never anywhere close to PP in terms of quality and quantity. Down there you could find actually ridiculously cheap options but the selection (and quality) was nowhere close to what was on offer in PP. Also an evil factor just like the above. The chicken farm area there got clamped down on sometime in last few years (from what I read) and is nothing like its former self now, and its former self was something you most likely wouldn't have been into. Only for the least squeamish out there.
The $5 ST prices were from 2004. Prices has gone up a lot (petro has gone up from $1 a gallon to $5. Vegetables in the local market was gone up dramatically). LE Cryee girls will be $35 or $40 for ST. But the differences will be huge if you compare the girls from LE Cryee and California's Long Beach Blvd, where an ugly skank will be $40 - $60. You probably can get an old, ugly skank for $5. People write you can get decent girls at Naga for approx. $100. Prices for cute girls in the West will be more.Price of petrol I can understand because if I want the use of it off of A moto driver then I have to pay for it. Vegetables on the other hand I'm not so sure As this dose not come into the equasion.
But $35-$40 for ST is too much for me, as I may as well find A budget airline and flight out to Prague for £30 return.
At least I know I will be safer there and less chance of being ripped off. For me to ply to PP I may as well spend A little extra and go to Australia!! But on the other hand I know there are hidden gems in there for me that I will not get in Prague.
What is LE Cryee?
Former shadow of itself, but there are still activities to be had.Yes, chicken farms are cheap, but filthy.
I kind of got the impression reading the threads that the activity had moved out of PP to surrounding city's.
How much should one expect to pay at a chicken farm and is what was there still there or have the chicken farms changed?
Ridiculous statement. Only applies if you compare 1996 Cambodia (before UN came in).But there's reports where written after the UN cam into Cambodia and after Gulf war 1 and during the period of Gulf war 2.
I have the quotation hear somewhere on my computer if you want me to quote what the member stated.
I just finished my Phnom Penh trip. I just quote a few prices for reference. Phnom Penh is definitely overall more expensive than Thailand or Myanmar.Wow and there was me complaining about rip off Thailand before.
but you can get street walkers for 30 or less if you find them. I found some more north near the Japan bridge, 20-30 dollars, some look young, but the atmosphere does not look very safe, as I mentioned already there are hundreds of local joints advertised as hair salon, coffee shops, restaurants, grocery stores, massages, KTVs, ect, I think locals pay 15-20. When you play in the local joints,Well we are kind of talking the kind of money I might pay but no more!
There was a Mr Sovann who was a driver often posting here, offering his services, and if I remember correctly he met his fate at the hands of the authorities, and let's just say he isn't in the driving business any more. Reasons related to the above. I do remember reading something about this. Was this the guy who went in with some big time hot shot American who shouted there activities out all over the internet.
And hence into the wrong hands of. Gov and NGO.
So where is best in SE Asia for me. For price and what I'm after?
Price of petrol I can understand because if I want the use of it off of A moto driver then I have to pay for it. Vegetables on the other hand I'm not so sure As this dose not come into the equasion.
But $35-$40 for ST is too much for me, as I may as well find A budget airline and flight out to Prague for 30 return.
At least I know I will be safer there and less chance of being ripped off. For me to ply to PP I may as well spend A little extra and go to Australia!! But on the other hand I know there are hidden gems in there for me that I will not get in Prague.
What is LE Cryee?
Yes, chicken farms are cheap, but filthy.
I kind of got the impression reading the threads that the activity had moved out of PP to surrounding city's.
How much should one expect to pay at a chicken farm and is what was there still there or have the chicken farms changed?
But there's reports where written after the UN cam into Cambodia and after Gulf war 1 and during the period of Gulf war 2.
I have the quotation hear somewhere on my computer if you want me to quote what the member stated.
Wow and there was me complaining about rip off Thailand before.
Well we are kind of talking the kind of money I might pay but no more!
I do remember reading something about this. Was this the guy who went in with some big time hot shot American who shouted there activities out all over the internet.
And hence into the wrong hands of. Gov and NGO.
So where is best in SE Asia for me. For price and what I'm after?You can get some realy good advice reading ISG. But if you read long back information is to old. I don't know prices for ST but I visited Phnon Penh again last month and paid 40 dollar LT + 10 dollar BF for a real beauty. 3 years ago I paid 30 + 10. In Sihanoukville I paid as ususal 30 dollar LT + 10 dollar BF. In my mind it is still cheap. You can easy find cheaper FL-girls. 20 dollar LT and no BF is still posible. You want to go to Austalia. Up to you, but in Austalia you pay much more for older and uglier girls and hotel, food etc. Is very expensive.
Then you say that Prague in Europe are more safe. That is not true. Phnom Penh is ok safe and if you are a little streetwise you can avoid the scams. I will anytime prefere Phnom Penh from Prague. Have you ever been in Prague or Phnom Penh?
You can still find chickenfarms in Sihanoukville, but I never go there. I prefer beatiful girls GFE for LT.
What place in SEA is the best for you? I don't know. Go to different places and make your choice.
James, you somehow put my name at the top of quotes that were not written by me. I'm not sure who wrote those but it wasn't me. The last one quoting me about Mr Sovann was actually mine, that's the only one. I hope you can be more careful about that next time. Not a huge deal, but still, it's misleading for someone who just comes on and sees that and thinks I said those things.
Price of petrol I can understand because if I want the use of it off of A moto driver then I have to pay for it. Vegetables on the other hand I'm not so sure As this dose not come into the equasion.
But $35-$40 for ST is too much for me, as I may as well find A budget airline and flight out to Prague for 30 return.
At least I know I will be safer there and less chance of being ripped off. For me to ply to PP I may as well spend A little extra and go to Australia!! But on the other hand I know there are hidden gems in there for me that I will not get in Prague.
What is LE Cryee?
Yes, chicken farms are cheap, but filthy.
I kind of got the impression reading the threads that the activity had moved out of PP to surrounding city's.
How much should one expect to pay at a chicken farm and is what was there still there or have the chicken farms changed?
But there's reports where written after the UN cam into Cambodia and after Gulf war 1 and during the period of Gulf war 2.
I have the quotation hear somewhere on my computer if you want me to quote what the member stated.
Wow and there was me complaining about rip off Thailand before.
Well we are kind of talking the kind of money I might pay but no more!
I do remember reading something about this. Was this the guy who went in with some big time hot shot American who shouted there activities out all over the internet.
And hence into the wrong hands of. Gov and NGO.
So where is best in SE Asia for me. For price and what I'm after?Stay home. If you are worried about danger spending 35 bucks on a hottie, then you should stay home and hide your money in your mattress. There are enough like you over here already.
Fast Eddie 48
10-01-15, 22:10
I will start by saying that I'm not in PP and have not been for a few years but have kept up with it a bit via this thread and other ways.
Martini of course just closed. From what I've heard, Walkabout is a dim shadow of its former self, not even worth a visit compared to many other places these days. Same for Sharky if it is still there. LE Cyrcee is one of the spots from a ways back that is still there, though again I can't say how good it is now, maybe other here can. K11 had been shut down, but may have come back in some form or other, lesser for sure, but honestly that place was pretty evil and should be struck from your list. There were very good reasons for it to be shut down. Basically the truly sick stuff you hear of regarding Cambodia and or Southeast Asia was in full blossom at that place. How sick you don't even want to know. There was a Mr Sovann who was a driver often posting here, offering his services, and if I remember correctly he met his fate at the hands of the authorities, and let's just say he isn't in the driving business any more. Reasons related to the above. So for that 2003 and earlier period, there isn't much left these days of what was big then. It's a whole new place with all new scenes and venues.
HOw many days are you going? I'd just start from scratch and build up a new list of places to check out. Streets 104,130, 136, etc. Pontoon. Darling Darling. Perhaps Cyrcee. Maybe you can dig up some less famous cheaper options to pad things out.
I have to say, the Martinis heydey was excellent because it was the one giant magnet for working girls in the city, so you didn't really need to go somewhere else. And so cheap, $20 overnight, you could never beat that. And in my opinion, for mongering, S'ville was never anywhere close to PP in terms of quality and quantity. Down there you could find actually ridiculously cheap options but the selection (and quality) was nowhere close to what was on offer in PP. Also an evil factor just like the above. The chicken farm area there got clamped down on sometime in last few years (from what I read) and is nothing like its former self now, and its former self was something you most likely wouldn't have been into. Only for the least squeamish out there.To Wendella.
The first time I was in PP is back in 2002 first viet girl in one of the Brothel is 5 usd didn't go to K11 heard the girl is too young not my thing and you can get girl for LT at martini for 20 usd, everything is 3 time more now and viet girl quality is down not sure if I going to return soon.
Fast eddie 48.
Neville Nobody
10-01-15, 22:11
I am considering staying at Blue Tongue Hotel during my upcoming trip to Phnom Penh but read on a GF hotel site that they have a limit of one non registered guest at a time.
This limit is not mentioned on Blue Tongues site.
As I do like multiples does anyone know if this is a restriction that is enforced?
Thanks for your help.
I am considering staying at Blue Tongue Hotel during my upcoming trip to Phnom Penh but read on a GF hotel site that they have a limit of one non registered guest at a time.
This limit is not mentioned on Blue Tongues site.
As I do like multiples does anyone know if this is a restriction that is enforced?
Thanks for your help.I stayed here for 3 nights before not this current trip but last trip. The front desk takes the ID of the lady when she enters the hotel. But not strict. On 2 occasions my lady did not have ID, but I just told the front desk she is okay I know her already, no problem. I did not bring duo to my room, but saw a customer brought two, and no problem getting in. These front desk guys are all young guys, very polite, if there is some issue, I am sure 2-3 tip can solve the issue.
Just book straight with hotel website is cheaper than Agoda, or Booking.com, price differ 5 or more a night. The nice balcony room is only 30 from their hotel website, standard only 20. Cheaper than online agent. This trip I stayed in Diamond hotel and Harmony Hotel which I also can recommend.
Price of petrol I can understand because if I want the use of it off of A moto driver then I have to pay for it. Vegetables on the other hand I'm not so sure As this dose not come into the equasion.
But $35-$40 for ST is too much for me, as I may as well find A budget airline and flight out to Prague for 30 return.
At least I know I will be safer there and less chance of being ripped off. For me to ply to PP I may as well spend A little extra and go to Australia!! But on the other hand I know there are hidden gems in there for me that I will not get in Prague.
What is LE Cryee?
Yes, chicken farms are cheap, but filthy.If 35-40 is too much, then in Phnom Penh you are left with a few options. One is the local hole in the wall brothels. There are still some Svay Pak looking places outskirts of town. Of course the scale probably no where near it. I have never been but heard it from long time Cambo expats and can confirm they still exist, price 10 or less per pop. You need a very trustworthy tuk tuk to guide you. The risk is high in these places. Police trap, NGO traps all sort of scams. Second option is street freelancers, normally you can find many freelancers around Waat Phnom at night. But my last 2 trips I did not see any there. But if you go up north more, near the bridge sometimes you can find freelancers around there, I saw some last trip, and talked to a few, they started at 50, but go down to 30 quickly, if you bargain hard maybe 20, these places are dark, better you bring a flash light to check their face and figure before you buy. I saw a few young ones there looked decent in the dark, not sure how they look in the bright light.
Then it's the sex joints in camouflage as salon shop, coffee shop, massage shop, KTV shop, restaurants, grocery stores, ect. You need to do some leg work and be very observant to figure out which shop looks suspicious, when it looks suspicious, it probably is. As a foreign tourist, probably hard for you to get local price 15-20, because most of these places do not want our business, some places rejected me, some waved me away, some just said to me no lady no lady even 4-5 sitting in front of me, some said to me only Cambodian, so takes some trial and error to figure out the hidden local venues. In the tourist market, 35-40 has become the low end, I met a few nicer ones in 130,136St, and they were quite firm at 50, maybe you are a good businessman you can slice another 10 at most, plus drinks and 10 BF, average take out fee comes to 60-70. In the higher end, I have taken girls out from a few karaokes Casa, Echo, Club 88,ect, the minimum is 100,20 to mamasan, plus drinks and room fee, around 150 at the end. Pontoon girls 30-50 range, Darling everyone wants 100. Lots of Chinese gamblers there so don't expect things too cheap.
Cambodia has moved away from the 5 dollar lady house scene for a few years already. Back 10-15 years ago, I went to Cambodia just like everyone else we all ventured into the brothel houses in the outskirt just like a sightseeing trip, I don't want to sound like a saint, I also felt somewhat excited to be surrounded by hundreds of girls and also felt strong sympathy at the same time, a really mixed feeling. Cambodia has moved on, we just have to adapt to the new environment.
The risk is high in these places. Police trap, NGO traps What is a NGO trap?
What is a NGO trap?It means a situation where a Non- Goverment Organization (e. G. One devoted to rescuing trafficked women) might be monitoring the comings and goings possibly in conjunction with police. Based on my experiences I think the chances of this are extremely rare to non-existent but it is true that there is more potential for difficult situations to arise in these places. Having sampled some street and fishbowl action in the less salubrious parts of PP I don't think the thrill or $$ savings are worth any grief and poor performance that you are liklely to get. So many nice Khmer GFE to be had. Just my 2 cents.
It means a situation where a Non- Goverment Organization (e. G. One devoted to rescuing trafficked women) might be monitoring the comings and goings possibly in conjunction with police. Based on my experiences I think the chances of this are extremely rare to non-existent but it is true that there is more potential for difficult situations to arise in these places. Having sampled some street and fishbowl action in the less salubrious parts of PP I don't think the thrill or $$ savings are worth any grief and poor performance that you are liklely to get. So many nice Khmer GFE to be had. Just my 2 cents.
It means a situation where a Non- Goverment Organization (e. G. One devoted to rescuing trafficked women) might be monitoring the comings and goings possibly in conjunction with police. Based on my experiences I think the chances of this are extremely rare to non-existent but it is true that there is more potential for difficult situations to arise in these places. Having sampled some street and fishbowl action in the less salubrious parts of PP I don't think the thrill or $$ savings are worth any grief and poor performance that you are liklely to get. So many nice Khmer GFE to be had. Just my 2 cents.Hey Bubba, what's "salubrious" mean? ;.) I see a lot of members here annoyed about NGO's. I think there are some NGOs that are not working in an ethical way, there was a story in international media about one head of one there in PP who was a fraud. I forget the name but some here I'm sure do know. On the other hand, there is definitely some really evil stuff happening in some places. If you go to street 130 bars then you are not seeing that part of it. But the KM11's and chicken farms, those places have lots (all? Most?) who are basically slaves, part of a mafia run system where they are victims. So naturally the performance will not be very good because they don't want to be there. I met a guy a long time ago, journalist, who went and tracked the pipeline from the Mekong in Vietnam where girls were coming over (this was early 2000's). It was like an assembly line and at some places near the border, shacks, the new girls were basically trained there by Khmer guys who were effectively [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) them into submission, and they were effectively prisoners. The ones who run this system draw no lines when it comes to age. The typical reasons for this were VN families who would get into gambling trouble and have to make a sacrifiice to make the debt good, or else took out too big a loan from the wrong person, or else just stupidly agreed to a BS story about how their girl would go get a good job in Cambodia. Since then these problems are getting gradually reduced, with the NGOs surely playing a role in that. The VN government has tried to educate its people so they don't fall into such traps unknowingly. So that's what we mean when we say that the feeling in those days was "mixed. ".
JesseJames
10-03-15, 17:30
Martini's, open or closed?
Martini's, open or closed?Closed. History.
QUOTE=Wendella;1782260]Hey Bubba, what's "salubrious" mean? ;.).
Hey Wendella.
Salubrious= "Conducive or favorable to health or well-being" and I think most of these out of the way and so called cheap places are definitely "not salubrious". I def agree with you that some bad stuff happens here and most often it is courtesy of the family. But seems when there is a a large number of nice girls willing to give a GFE that there is no real need to go out in the back blocks. The return on the effort is usually bad.
Enjoy your reports and insights into what is going on! Keep 'them coming!
Cheers.
Bubba.
Hi everyone,
New to the forum, but I did search prior to posting my question, which is – has anyone had a blind 'body' massage? Are you always clothed during it? Do they use oil? And last but not least, has anyone had a HJ from the blind places?
Thanks
Have been there a few times the last years, always to my satisfaction.
So visited again last evening, about 11:30 pm.
Lots of girls, I believe I was the only customer at that moment.
Normal procedure, surrounded by all girls, choose one, buy her a drink.
And after some time, asked her to choose a friend.
So friend comes, I buy a drink for her, and another drink for me.
And then it is time for business. It is about 12 pm then.
To my surprise girl #1 calls another girl and tell me that she cannot go with me.
She tells me to go with girl #2 and #3.
I am angry, ask for Hassan, he comes, I explain the situation, he talks to the girl.
And tells me that she cannot go with me because she is married and it will become to late for her.
He apologizes to me, en tells the girl that she should have told me her story earlier.
What a joke. What is happening to Cambodia, that even in Le Cyrcee this things are happening.
To be specific, I'm curious about the places that have the white sign out front, sometimes have 'Massage' written in English with Khmer writing above and below it.
Has anyone tried? I visited Phnom Penh last year for the first time and was curious by those places, but the women never looked keen for customers. Is it because they only serve locals?, is totally legit?
I'm going back in December and interested to try, but can / should I?
Overall, I found the massage experience very average in Phnom Penh. Many legit places river side that do very average massages. Want to explore further this time.
Thank you again.
CharmingGuy1
10-04-15, 13:28
Friends,
First time Singaporean planning to visit Siem Reap for 4 days during Oct 15 - Oct 19.
Can someone tell me how to get teenage girls (18,19,20 years) for long term and what are the prices? How hard is it compared to going to a Bangkok massage parlor? Your help will be much appreciated.
Have been there a few times the last years, always to my satisfaction.
So visited again last evening, about 11:30 pm.
Lots of girls, I believe I was the only customer at that moment.
Normal procedure, surrounded by all girls, choose one, buy her a drink.
And after some time, asked her to choose a friend.
So friend comes, I buy a drink for her, and another drink for me.
And then it is time for business. It is about 12 pm then.
To my surprise girl #1 calls another girl and tell me that she cannot go with me.
She tells me to go with girl #2 and #3.
I am angry, ask for Hassan, he comes, I explain the situation, he talks to the girl.
And tells me that she cannot go with me because she is married and it will become to late for her.
He apologizes to me, en tells the girl that she should have told me her story earlier.
What a joke. What is happening to Cambodia, that even in Le Cyrcee this things are happening.You are angry because you not can buy this girl. Do you want slaves? Go the the fishbowls with trafficed women. They never say no. Men like you don't respect women.
James, you somehow put my name at the top of quotes that were not written by me. I'm not sure who wrote those but it wasn't me. The last one quoting me about Mr Sovann was actually mine, that's the only one. I hope you can be more careful about that next time. Not a huge deal, but still, it's misleading for someone who just comes on and sees that and thinks I said those things.Sorry Wendella but I though it was you who wrote them.
Stay home. If you are worried about danger spending 35 bucks on a hottie, then you should stay home and hide your money in your mattress. There are enough like you over here already.And what do you mean by that?
If 35-40 is too much, then in Phnom Penh you are left with a few options. One is the local hole in the wall brothels. There are still some Svay Pak looking places outskirts of town. Of course the scale probably no where near it. I have never been but heard it from long time Cambo expats and can confirm they still exist, price 10 or less per pop. You need a very trustworthy tuk tuk to guide you. The risk is high in these places. Police trap, NGO traps all sort of scams. Second option is street freelancers, normally you can find many freelancers around Waat Phnom at night. But my last 2 trips I did not see any there. But if you go up north more, near the bridge sometimes you can find freelancers around there, I saw some last trip, and talked to a few, they started at 50, but go down to 30 quickly, if you bargain hard maybe 20, these places are dark, better you bring a flash light to check their face and figure before you buy. I saw a few young ones there looked decent in the dark, not sure how they look in the bright light.
Then it's the sex joints in camouflage as salon shop, coffee shop, massage shop, KTV shop, restaurants, grocery stores, ect. You need to do some leg work and be very observant to figure out which shop looks suspicious, when it looks suspicious, it probably is. As a foreign tourist, probably hard for you to get local price 15-20, because most of these places do not want our business, some places rejected me, some waved me away, some just said to me no lady no lady even 4-5 sitting in front of me, some said to me only Cambodian, so takes some trial and error to figure out the hidden local venues. In the tourist market, 35-40 has become the low end, I met a few nicer ones in 130,136St, and they were quite firm at 50, maybe you are a good businessman you can slice another 10 at most, plus drinks and 10 BF, average take out fee comes to 60-70. In the higher end, I have taken girls out from a few karaokes Casa, Echo, Club 88,ect, the minimum is 100,20 to mamasan, plus drinks and room fee, around 150 at the end. Pontoon girls 30-50 range, Darling everyone wants 100. Lots of Chinese gamblers there so don't expect things too cheap.
Cambodia has moved away from the 5 dollar lady house scene for a few years already. Back 10-15 years ago, I went to Cambodia just like everyone else we all ventured into the brothel houses in the outskirt just like a sightseeing trip, I don't want to sound like a saint, I also felt somewhat excited to be surrounded by hundreds of girls and also felt strong sympathy at the same time, a really mixed feeling. Cambodia has moved on, we just have to adapt to the new environment.I'm kind of thinking to get A good tuk tuk driver. 'price 10 or less per pop' and take the risk of being dune by the scum bags (hum) I guess you get what you pay for duck.
It means a situation where a Non- Goverment Organization (e. G. One devoted to rescuing trafficked women) might be monitoring the comings and goings possibly in conjunction with police. Based on my experiences I think the chances of this are extremely rare to non-existent but it is true that there is more potential for difficult situations to arise in these places. Having sampled some street and fishbowl action in the less salubrious parts of PP I don't think the thrill or $$ savings are worth any grief and poor performance that you are likely to get. So many nice Khmer GFE to be had. Just my 2 cents.I think many members would disagree with you on this one.
But we usually associate the NGO as charitable organization (but IMHO they are just hypocrite) whom have a vengeance with the white mans western life's American Margaret Thatcher dream; such as the red cross.
The conflict in Syria is a classic example.
You are angry because you not can buy this girl. Do you want slaves? Go the the fishbowls with trafficed women. They never say no. Men like you don't respect women.That was another thing I forgot to ask; I keep hearing the fishbowls thing but never worked out what it was or meant.
Well After I posted before the information that has come back has made me think a little about going or not.
And especially from those who said 'oh I went there 10-20 years ago and it was good crack, but now would not touch with a barge pole but like to have a read of this forum though'.
I was always wanting to try somewhere in South East Asia but since no one on hear has given me an alternative to any other country to visit.
I am in 2 minds at the moment; Should I call me friend in Mombasa and we can arrange a holiday to Tanzania.
Well he recons that the price and chose in Tanzania is far better then Kenya. And in Kenya we are talking less then 30 USD for LT over night and this is from the best clubs in town! White man prices an all!
But we never discussed finding those hidden gems though.
Or then on the other hand I might just try this place out. Don't know yet still thinking; still asking questions.
You are angry because you not can buy this girl. Do you want slaves? Go the the fishbowls with trafficed women. They never say no. Men like you don't respect women.The point is that you do not expect that in LE Cyrcee. You don't go there for a drink or small talks, but just have a drink to take your time to chose a girl which you expect to take out. If a girl does not like you, fine, but if she never goes out with customers, she does not work in the right bar. Just my 2 cents.
To my surprise girl #1 calls another girl and tell me that she cannot go with me.
She tells me to go with girl #2 and #3.
I am angry, ask for Hassan, he comes, I explain the situation, he talks to the girl.
And tells me that she cannot go with me because she is married and it will become to late for her.These Phnom Penh bar girls have freedom to choose customers. They do reject customers for different reasons. This story sounds like the the girl making excuse not to go out with particular customer. I also have been rejected before in 130,136ST bars and also discos. One time I guess my offer was too low, I was not willing to pay more than 50, but obviously the lady thinks she can sell easily 80, and tried to push her friend to me. Another time I bought several lady drinks and about to take out a lady even paid her bar fine, then she suddenly said sorry she could not go because her period just came, so I took another girl instead, later found out that girl was waiting for her Korean big spender so made up the story to refuse me.
When get refused by working girl, just move on to next target, it's all only a business transaction. I think the only places you won't get refused is these fish bowl joints that target tourists.
The point is that you do not expect that in LE Cyrcee. You don't go there for a drink or small talks, but just have a drink to take your time to chose a girl which you expect to take out. If a girl does not like you, fine, but if she never goes out with customers, she does not work in the right bar. Just my 2 cents.I know LE Cyrcee. All girl go with custommers. Not very offen a girl say no. But it is always her right to say no, if she don't like the custommer.
I know LE Cyrcee. All girl go with custommers. Not very offen a girl say no. But it is always her right to say no, if she don't like the custommer.Of course it is, but she should make that clear and not ask for drinks.
I have been in Phnom Penh for 2 days. This trip I wanted to check some places outside the tourist zones. I tried a few tuk tuk drivers, but most of them take me to these small Viet joints disguised as other business or massage parlours, one young tuktuk took me to some place near airport with karaoke style setting, there I found a ridiculously cute Cambodian girl. I think I paid much more than locals pay and the tuk tuk commission on top, I paid her to go a day and half from 10 PM to next 7 PM, I felt a bit wasted the money, 180 USD, that was all I could get down from 250 they demanded. But the girl must be poor still using these phone that has no color or picture function. And her pussy seems quite big compare her age. And she completely clueless about the most basic English. A GF session half condom then half bb because she saw I could not come, she took off for me. I got bored after one shot, her English level was non existent, I set her free at 3 AM, try to ask me taxi money 10, but I refused.
Next day, I found a shop near Russian market advertise as karaoke, but there were 8 Viet girls, 2 were very doable, but the papasan does not allow over night, allow ST outside visit, I took one to my room for 60, I still prefer Viet, they simply more fun in bed than Khmer. The night went to Darling, and had the worst session from there in about 15 tries. I did not pick the girl but this Khmer girl was next to me at the bar, and danced and rubbed her pussy on my knees, I thought she would be a good performer, I was wrong, the first early runner I had in Cambodia. 100 USD for WTF 40 min, terrible BBBJ, and phone rang all the time. I think next 3 days, I would not pick Khmer girl, I just focus on Viet, personally I always have more fun with Viet.How do you know which moto / tuk-tuk to trust who offer to take you to places? When I was there, I just felt nervous getting on the back of a strangers bike and trusting he was taking me somewhere 'safe'?
I really want to experience these Viet places disguised as a coffee shop or other businesses as mentioned.
How do you know which moto / tuk-tuk to trust who offer to take you to places? When I was there, I just felt nervous getting on the back of a strangers bike and trusting he was taking me somewhere 'safe'?Just hire the transport driver that hangs around your hotel. Every area has a group of regular transport drivers that hang around everyday. Take one that is a regular, and when you hire him, everyone will see that.
No guarantees that he won't take you to his places that offer commission (in which you will be overcharge as a tourist), but you will be safe from physical harm. Hard to find a good reliable transport driver who won't overcharge and rip you off (from commissions).
Just hire the transport driver that hangs around your hotel. Every area has a group of regular transport drivers that hang around everyday. Take one that is a regular, and when you hire him, everyone will see that.
No guarantees that he won't take you to his places that offer commission (in which you will be overcharge as a tourist), but you will be safe from physical harm. Hard to find a good reliable transport driver who won't overcharge and rip you off (from commissions).The best way is to tell the driver you pay him good money so he does not need much commission from these shops. There are many good drivers and many cunning ones. So you need to try a few and keep the one you trust. The drivers like the most to take you to the fish bowl type of places, because they give out best commissions. These local joints do not give much commission, so you need to pay the drivers more instead, always tell them you want to see local lady houses, not the fish bowl massages.
Each driver has different knowledge of different places, it's impossible to know all these places, simply too many. So I tend to use many different drivers to cover more grounds. If you try more drivers, eventually you will run into some honest driver with good knowledge.
Just hire the transport driver that hangs around your hotel. Every area has a group of regular transport drivers that hang around everyday. Take one that is a regular, and when you hire him, everyone will see that.
No guarantees that he won't take you to his places that offer commission (in which you will be overcharge as a tourist), but you will be safe from physical harm. Hard to find a good reliable transport driver who won't overcharge and rip you off (from commissions).I used to go to the nearest foreigner shady place to my hotel (in those days that meant Sharky's) and get a guy from there. All the motorbike guys there knew exactly where we wanted to go. Also, I didn't want the guy at my hotel to know everything I was doing, and maybe let people at my hotel know.
I used to go to the nearest foreigner shady place to my hotel (in those days that meant Sharky's) and get a guy from there. All the motorbike guys there knew exactly where we wanted to go. Also, I didn't want the guy at my hotel to know everything I was doing, and maybe let people at my hotel know.In witch hotel do you stay in PP Wendella?
These Phnom Penh bar girls have freedom to choose customers. They do reject customers for different reasons. This story sounds like the the girl making excuse not to go out with particular customer. I also have been rejected before in 130,136ST bars and also discos. One time I guess my offer was too low, I was not willing to pay more than 50, but obviously the lady thinks she can sell easily 80, and tried to push her friend to me. Another time I bought several lady drinks and about to take out a lady even paid her bar fine, then she suddenly said sorry she could not go because her period just came, so I took another girl instead, later found out that girl was waiting for her Korean big spender so made up the story to refuse me.
When get refused by working girl, just move on to next target, it's all only a business transaction. I think the only places you won't get refused is these fish bowl joints that target tourists.You have to remember that there are many different types of girls working in a bar, some will fuck with anyone their only interest being money, some only with guys they find attractive or consider a good long term boyfriend prospect. Some want to be treated like a lady and wished to be courted and chased and others have husbands or long-term boyfriends and they work only for lady drinks, tips and for the company of the other girls.
In witch hotel do you stay in PP Wendella?Dara Reang Sey is a couple blocks from the river, low rates, acceptable rooms. Nothing great, just good location plus cheap rates for the area. Street 118 at corner of street 13 if I remember correctly. It has an adequate restaurant on the entire ground floor.
I've stayed at other places too. One diagonal from National Museum is good, though not as close to St 130. That one better to get to the restaurants on the river. Called Orchid or something like this. I never liked staying over by Walkabout / Pontoon because eating options were not good over there, but that may have changed in recent years since I was there last.
You have to remember that there are many different types of girls working in a bar, some will fuck with anyone their only interest being money, some only with guys they find attractive or consider a good long term boyfriend prospect. Some want to be treated like a lady and wished to be courted and chased and others have husbands or long-term boyfriends and they work only for lady drinks, tips and for the company of the other girls.This is something we shouldn't need to remember. Seriously, these bars employ a team of hookers for customers to come and chat with and barfine. That's what these bars are for. So why are there girls in there trying to find husbands and boyfriends? They should be working at some bars that are set up for guys who are looking for girlfriends and wives, not in a bar where guys are looking for hookers. (Hmm, I want to find me a good wife, I know, I'll go down to the bar with all the prostitutes and find a girl who's not working as a prostitute.) It's dumb and annoying. It's like in Nana Plaza in Bangkok when a bar starts mixing in ladyboys together with their girls. Customers don't want that. If a guy wants a lady boy he will go to a ladyboy bar. It's a few doors down, can't miss it, the bar with all the ladyboys in front of it.
This is something we shouldn't need to remember. Seriously, these bars employ a team of hookers for customers to come and chat with and barfine. That's what these bars are for. So why are there girls in there trying to find husbands and boyfriends? They should be working at some bars that are set up for guys who are looking for girlfriends and wives, not in a bar where guys are looking for hookers. (Hmm, I want to find me a good wife, I know, I'll go down to the bar with all the prostitutes and find a girl who's not working as a prostitute.) It's dumb and annoying. It's like in Nana Plaza in Bangkok when a bar starts mixing in ladyboys together with their girls. Customers don't want that. If a guy wants a lady boy he will go to a ladyboy bar. It's a few doors down, can't miss it, the bar with all the ladyboys in front of it.Cambodia is different. None of what you say change it. If you can not accept it, stay in Thailand.
Cambodia is different. None of what you say change it. If you can not accept it, stay in Thailand.It has nothing to do with Cambodia. It's just a few foreigner bars in PP. Face it, dude. It's stupid. Nobody goes to those bars looking to find wives. That's mental.
And do you seriously think that Khmer guys have to deal with this in their P4 P places?
I think it's more about what they can get away with putting one over on foreigners. I mean, I think the bars obviously are not on some mission to find husbands for girls, no, it's a business, and they're hiring cute girls who won't go out as a kind of bait and switch to get customers into the bar who will presume those are girls who can go out. It's a scam.
Hi friends,
I will be traveling to Phnom Penh next week and staying at Cardmom hotel. As this in my first trip to Phnom Penh, please suggest if this this hotel is girl friendly and the best pick up places and massage parlours near this hotel.
Thanks
Manfield04
10-24-15, 19:22
Cardamom Hotel and Apartment is GF. It is located along Oknha Ket road. You can find girls at the Walk About Hotel which is a few metres away on the same road. You can also find girls at Pontoon which is on Jayavarman VII Street (parallel to Oknha Ket street) a little more than 100 metres away.
I will be traveling to Phnom Penh next week and staying at Cardmom hotel.
Anyone had luck (HJ) from the blind massage places?
I know LE Cyrcee. All girl go with custommers. Not very offen a girl say no. But it is always her right to say no, if she don't like the custommer.Cambodia girls are not like Thai ladies. They are not educated and not as sophisticated, at least as the girls in Bangkok or Pataya who are always up for ST action so as to make money.
There are many reasons why a lady might not go with you, from her period starting, she has the runs, she has to be home (early shift girl), she is not yet "broken in" and is too young to take a large barang pounding her all night etc. Even once I saw a lady reject a young man because he did not wash and had a strong case of BO.
I once made the drunken mistake of pushing it by insisting that the lady who had slurped a couple of my lady drinks to go with me. Reluctantly she did. And I had what appeared to me in my drunken state a small pool of red on my sheets as a result. Yeck!
This is something we shouldn't need to remember. Seriously, these bars employ a team of hookers for customers to come and chat with and barfine. That's what these bars are for. So why are there girls in there trying to find husbands and boyfriends? They should be working at some bars that are set up for guys who are looking for girlfriends and wives, not in a bar where guys are looking for hookers. (Hmm, I want to find me a good wife, I know, I'll go down to the bar with all the prostitutes and find a girl who's not working as a prostitute.) It's dumb and annoying. It's like in Nana Plaza in Bangkok when a bar starts mixing in ladyboys together with their girls. Customers don't want that. If a guy wants a lady boy he will go to a ladyboy bar. It's a few doors down, can't miss it, the bar with all the ladyboys in front of it.It may seem strange to you but there are guys who frequent bars in Phnom Penh because they want a drink and enjoy the company, not every guy in a bar is looking for a fuck.
And do you seriously think that Khmer guys have to deal with this in their P4 P places?
I think it's more about what they can get away with putting one over on foreigners. I mean, I think the bars obviously are not on some mission to find husbands for girls, no, it's a business, and they're hiring cute girls who won't go out as a kind of bait and switch to get customers into the bar who will presume those are girls who can go out. It's a scam.Sorry bro but you're way off.
In case you haven't noticed there are hundreds of huge KTVs all over the country. These are the most popular options for local guys--not only the thousands of local elite who drive Lexus trucks but also regular guys who ride motorbikes. These are places to drink and have fun, usually in a group. Sometimes a girl with go with a guy and sometime they won't. Sometimes they want money and sometimes they don't. Of course tips for the time in the KTV and beergardens are always expected. A few exclusive KTVs would probably blow your mind. Local guys can easily blow $500 in a night just to drink, have fun and retire to a private room with a girl.
For guys who do want to buy sex immediately there are a few options. One is dirty local brothels but they are becoming less common. There are more on the outskirts than in the middle of the city and they are very cheap. The elite never go to these. Mostly guys who make $100-200 a month. Most foreigners never see them or never notice if they do see them. These sometimes double as $2. 50 massage places but not always. Most Khmer guys go to massage places for actual massages. The idea of paying for a handjob is unheard of.
Another option is the fish bowl type of massage. These are usually hidden in hotels. There are a half dozen in Phnom Penh. Guys walk in, point out a girl and go to a room. The rates are equal to or higher than the bars foreigners go to. Many guys that go to these places are sitting on huge amounts of money and aren't cheap. Those Lexus you see everywhere were purchased with cash.
Cambodians don't go out alone very often. It's almost never seen. Guys or girls. They like a warm open party atmosphere with singing and dancing. Even when guys go to a fish bowl type sex massage they often come in a group.
Foreigners are different. They go out alone, slide up to a bar and hunch over a beer. That's why the bars sprung up (during UNITAC, for foreign soldiers and officials). That's why they keep growing too. They almost never have local customers. These are places guys go to drink, play games and have fun. A few are basically brothels doubled as bars but its becoming less common. More common are places with nice girls who want to meet foreigners and have fun. Some go out with customers sometimes. Some never go out. These aren't working girl houses. A lot of girls are looking for a husband or boyfriend at least part time. This started with UNITAC too. Guys on the ground started giving them money to stay with them for months or even years. A "local rent a wife. " This practice still abounds for many guys on business for extended periods.
Foreigners who like the party atmosphere go to clubs like Pontoon and try to find a freelancer.
Foreigners who want to buy sex immediately can go to the few bars where every woman wants nothing more than a bar fine. Or they can go to the fish bowl type places mentioned where they will pay 30-60 for a short session. Or they will go to the bar at Nagaworld Casino where they will pay even more. Or they can go to a local brothel if they want to risk it. Or they can go to a guest house and ask one of the guys out front to call a girl up for them. That usually costs 10-30 dollars.
Lots of guys are happy to spend an extra dollar on a drink to have a nice young lady to sit with them. That's what the bars are organized around for the most part. The girls aren't looking to fuck multiple guys a day and make big money. If they were they would work in a fish bowl.
Have a nice day.
Anyone had luck (HJ) from the blind massage places?Those are the least like massage places to offer it. In any country. It's a no go.
There are several places that do offer it normally though. Almost any massage place on Sothearos south of Sihanouk for example.
Those are the least like massage places to offer it. In any country. It's a no go.
There are several places that do offer it normally though. Almost any massage place on Sothearos south of Sihanouk for example.Thank you for your reply. Are you talking about the places near the 'white building'? They just seemed to obvious for me. I like places such as souk's place. Looks legit, but offers HJ with some cute girls. Any other such places?
I only found souk's place by riverside offering HJ. I couldn't believe how hard it was to find HJ riverside.
Thank you for your reply. Are you talking about the places near the 'white building'? They just seemed to obvious for me. I like places such as souk's place. Looks legit, but offers HJ with some cute girls. Any other such places?
I only found souk's place by riverside offering HJ. I couldn't believe how hard it was to find HJ riverside.I guess you can describe them that way if you're not happy with the way I described the area. But "the white building" doesn't appear on any map by that name while Sothearos Street certainly does. Anyway, yes that entire row of massage parlors on the left when traveling south offers HJ. Most of the 10,000 Riel places on the right side further south do too but they are absolutely disgusting inside. As do the massage places north of what Phnom on France street and probably 50 other places in PP.
Riverside is more hit or miss and has been for the last few years. Tourist influxes, NGOs with spy cameras and wanting to clean up the image of the most popular part of the city is the cause.
What is "Souk's Place"? Do you mean Sokun's Place? It was on the riverside for years. HJ was normal but usually not skilled and with a high asking price. Then it moved next to Kiwi Mart on Street 110. It's not there anymore. Did it move again or close?
Thank you for your reply. Are you talking about the places near the 'white building'? They just seemed to obvious for me. I like places such as souk's place. Looks legit, but offers HJ with some cute girls. Any other such places?
I only found souk's place by riverside offering HJ. I couldn't believe how hard it was to find HJ riverside.Barbershop with massage room straight opposite La Cyrcee 100%. Massage shops on the circle of what Phnom, N. O. Site, Up market massage place corner of Street 252 and the one west of street 51, cannot remember street number. That ate just a few doable places. Shops on Riversite north of what Phnom, no go with exception of site street where the Vietnamese cafe is on the corner. There is a Viets barberskop with OK massage room in the back.
Hi friends,
I will be traveling to Phnom Penh next week and staying at Cardmom hotel. As this in my first trip to Phnom Penh, please suggest if this this hotel is girl friendly and the best pick up places and massage parlours near this hotel.
ThanksHi Tercar,
You shouldn't have a problem to bring back a girl to the hotel, just ask at reception before check in.
This hotel is located near the best discos; just walk down Poonton to pick up some attractive freelancer. The best time is to go after 11 pm. For daytime fun, pay a visit to the Walk About hotel two block away from your hotel, they have got a good selection of girls.
Not so far from you, there is a massage parlor called Massa located near the independent monument, street 252. The massage is 10 $, for extras start from 30 $ to 50 $.
Have a great holiday.
Rocco
Aussie Fella
11-03-15, 13:18
It's been 6 years since I was last in Cambodia and I'm thinking about heading back next month. Last time I had a tuk-tuk driver who showed me around but I'm keen to hire a motorbike / scooter this time and do a bit of exploring. I wouldn't mind checking out a few of the places on the outskirts, including K11. Not for any nefarious reason but just out of interest to see such an infamous place. I know the traffic in PP can be a bit crazy but I'm sure it's doable. Any opinions? Obviously I want to get girls from the usual bars but would also like to see a bit more of the 'down & dirty'.
NspectHerGadgt
11-05-15, 09:45
I hope my last visit prompted a distasteful review of Caramel Bar on Street 130. Let me reiterate: their aggressive lady-drink policies; the lady-swarm that leaves you unable to connect with your chosen partner; and the actual lack of talented women (they're so accustomed to sitting around sucking down lady drinks that they have no idea what to do in bed.) On the other hand, the well-reviewed Honey Pot Bar is just a few doors down, and Angry Birds are the other way on 130 with lots of lookers as well. Avoid Caramel Bar in light of much better choices.
I guess you can describe them that way if you're not happy with the way I described the area. But "the white building" doesn't appear on any map by that name while Sothearos Street certainly does. Anyway, yes that entire row of massage parlors on the left when traveling south offers HJ. Most of the 10,000 Riel places on the right side further south do too but they are absolutely disgusting inside. As do the massage places north of what Phnom on France street and probably 50 other places in PP.
Riverside is more hit or miss and has been for the last few years. Tourist influxes, NGOs with spy cameras and wanting to clean up the image of the most popular part of the city is the cause.
What is "Souk's Place"? Do you mean Sokun's Place? It was on the riverside for years. HJ was normal but usually not skilled and with a high asking price. Then it moved next to Kiwi Mart on Street 110. It's not there anymore. Did it move again or close?Yes, Souk's Place is what I meant, thank you. It was located on the river when I was last there, so glad you mentioned it moved before I head back.
Thank you for your help.
AussieGuy100
11-07-15, 00:14
I hope my last visit prompted a distasteful review of Caramel Bar on Street 130. Let me reiterate: their aggressive lady-drink policies; the lady-swarm that leaves you unable to connect with your chosen partner; and the actual lack of talented women (they're so accustomed to sitting around sucking down lady drinks that they have no idea what to do in bed.) On the other hand, the well-reviewed Honey Pot Bar is just a few doors down, and Angry Birds are the other way on 130 with lots of lookers as well. Avoid Caramel Bar in light of much better choices.I'd agree with this too. Many bars have "mosquito" girls that hang around you and pester for drinks even when you've bought your favoured girl a drink. Very annoying. Another bar nearby to definitely avoid is Pasha Bar in street 118. The girls are either mosquito girls or totally disinterested even when offered a ladydrink. Strange. Plus it has a heavy-handed and occasionally aggressive German manager.
The nice thing about Angry Birds and Honeypot in 130 is that the girls are very friendly but aren't allowed to actually ask for ladydrinks or be mosquitos so it makes for a much pleasanter experience, especially as there are some real hotties in both bars.
Street 130 is turning into a good area for nice bars, a change from the "in your face" type of bars that also tend to pad your bills in nearby street 136.
Other current recommendations include the noisy but fun Double D bar in 110 (but check your bills carefully) and the smart "@ the Office bar" in 118.
I'd agree with this too. Many bars have "mosquito" girls that hang around you and pester for drinks even when you've bought your favoured girl a drink. Very annoying. Another bar nearby to definitely avoid is Pasha Bar in street 118. The girls are either mosquito girls or totally disinterested even when offered a ladydrink. Strange. Plus it has a heavy-handed and occasionally aggressive German manager.
The nice thing about Angry Birds and Honeypot in 130 is that the girls are very friendly but aren't allowed to actually ask for ladydrinks or be mosquitos so it makes for a much pleasanter experience, especially as there are some real hotties in both bars.
Street 130 is turning into a good area for nice bars, a change from the "in your face" type of bars that also tend to pad your bills in nearby street 136.
Other current recommendations include the noisy but fun Double D bar in 110 (but check your bills carefully) and the smart "@ the Office bar" in 118.AussieGuy don't you own bars in Phnom Penh? You should disclose that before you make "recommendations."
AussieGuy100
11-08-15, 06:24
AussieGuy don't you own bars in Phnom Penh? You should disclose that before you make "recommendations."Busted. Sort of. I used to own a half share in Loco bar in street 130 two years ago but sold out after a year. I got exhausted with the long hours. The reality of running a bar does not match the dream.
If you look back through my posts you'll see that I've tried to be honest in my opinions and 'recommendations'. I've usually offered opinions on multiple bars or other attractions with the general aim of trying to help newcomers to Phnom Penh have a good time and not get ripped off.
FreeWillyBruh
11-08-15, 14:02
Busted. Sort of. I used to own a half share in Loco bar in street 130 two years ago but sold out after a year. I got exhausted with the long hours. The reality of running a bar does not match the dream.
If you look back through my posts you'll see that I've tried to be honest in my opinions and 'recommendations'. I've usually offered opinions on multiple bars or other attractions with the general aim of trying to help newcomers to Phnom Penh have a good time and not get ripped off.Thanks Aussie Guy and Bronze as us newcomers to PP appreciate these updates as to areas to focus on for a relaxing drink amongst the eye candy, biased or not. Now wondering if I should change my hotel closer to 130 and also avoid 136 bars altogether. Still seeking input for PP daytime action, whether MP'S or Bars. Thanks, NY.
I don't know who owns what, nor do I care to know, but I've seen the same people managing at Loco Bar, Angry Birds Bar, and now Honey Pot Bar. All on Street 130 and all recommended by you more than once here. The two other bars on the same part of the street are criticized. Is this just a coincidence? Smells fishy to me.
Try Loco Bar on street 130, next to 136 Bar.
It's a fairly new bar with about 20 girls and some real cuties amongst them. All the girls are very friendly and don't hassle you for ladydrinks. The music isn't deafeningly loud and as a bonus, the place has the best toilets of any bar I've been in. There are a few virgin girls but plenty who will go out.
Also Golden Vine on street 108 is worth a visit. Usually a fun atmosphere there, and plenty of girls, almost all of whom go out. Some real lookers too.
Oasis on street 136 can be enjoyable. Lots of girls and often a real buzzy atmosphere.
Airforce on street 104 is a must visit, just to experience 40-50 girls in one bar. But check your bill carefully if you buy a lot of drinks, there seem to be frequent 'mistakes' in adding your bill up.I agree, BronzeMan. It is a little fishy. But only a little. This report wrote AG100 when he was still owner of Loco Bar. It is fishy. There was several other reports very positive review of Loco Bar. I was suspicious. Did the owner give drinks to customers, who wrote positive about Loco Bar on ISG? I don't know, but I know that when I am in Phnom Penh I very offen stay in Sarys Guesthouse very close to Loco Bar and that Loco Bar is very nice. I always enjoy to come there. I also enjoy Angry Bird. I have not tried Honey Pot yet.
If you read other reports from AG100 you can se that he is very helpful.
Traveler1234
11-09-15, 02:12
I know the other half owner (now full owner) of the Loco Bar and never got a freebie from him. But I did pull a nice girl out for a few hours in my room and would certainly return. No rip-offs, nice ambiance and best of all, a nice stable of girls. YMMV.
I dunno who owns what now or in the past but as a visitor to PP I've always got reliable and unbiased info here from Aussie Guy and others (e.g. Wendella). They have certainly helped me to discover new bars and negotiate the changing scene in Phnom Penh. As I have said here before bars with on-site western owners which seem to cover a few in Street 130 tend to be better run and more lively than a lot of the those run by a local manager.
Cheers to all.
Bubba.
I dunno who owns what now or in the past but as a visitor to PP I've always got reliable and unbiased info here from Aussie Guy and others (e.g. Wendella). They have certainly helped me to discover new bars and negotiate the changing scene in Phnom Penh. As I have said here before bars with on-site western owners which seem to cover a few in Street 130 tend to be better run and more lively than a lot of the those run by a local manager.
Cheers to all.
Bubba.The latter for sure. And that also counts for Street 104 bars. Streets 110 and 118 also have some talent and western bar owners.
It's been 6 years since I was last in Cambodia and I'm thinking about heading back next month. Last time I had a tuk-tuk driver who showed me around but I'm keen to hire a motorbike / scooter this time and do a bit of exploring. I wouldn't mind checking out a few of the places on the outskirts, including K11. Not for any nefarious reason but just out of interest to see such an infamous place. I know the traffic in PP can be a bit crazy but I'm sure it's doable. Any opinions? Obviously I want to get girls from the usual bars but would also like to see a bit more of the 'down & dirty'.I also wanted to rent a bike when I was in PP a few days ago but it seems that they all want to keep our original passport before renting the bike. Just leaving a copy of the passport was not allowed. Please let us know if you find a place that does not need your original passport.
I'm having a pretty rough time in Phnom Penh's hostess bars. I was really looking forward to spending a month here after breaking up with my Vietnamese girlfriend. I had some awesome times here in the past, but this time the girls keep saying they are on their period when I ask them out. Or they ask for an outrageous amount of money. And if they do come back, they won't allow sex.
I had one good experience at Shanghai. There's no barfine there, but my girl told me to meet her outside at 3. It was good, but she got way too attached, and I don't want a girlfriend.
I met a Viet beauty at one bar. The Cambodians can't hold a candle to them. Of course she would not go with me. Phnom Penh is a frustrating place.
Thinking back to what worked in the past, for each of my good experiences, there had to be some chemistry, either real, or she had to be making an effort. All the girls this time have been cold fishes. They'll let me buy drinks for them, but they aren't interested in anything else.
Either the girls have gotten worse here, or I have lost my mojo.
Heading to Snookyville in a few days. Maybe I will have better luck there.
Hi,
I am coming to PP for a short stay in February. I have booked a nice room (I Hope?.) at The Lux Riverside on street 136. I have chosen this hotel because of it's location. I am hoping there are no judgmental tourist type's I may have to deal with. (Naughty Boy Street far too seedy for their stay. Hopefully.) Has anyone here, ever had a bad experience with the Walk Of Shame at this hotel? I get a little paranoid when it comes to the WOS. As I had a very bad experience with this, the last time I was in PP. I just want to enjoy myself when I am there. Fingers crossed I have a better time than FreeWillyBruh.
Thanks
Neville Nobody
11-12-15, 20:43
My knowledge of Phnom Penh is fairly limited having been there only twice for short periods and that was over 5 years ago. In planning this upcoming trip I realized that from a mongering perspective I was limiting myself basically to an area bounded by what Phnom in the north and Independence Monument in the south and Riverside to Monivong Bvd in the west.
So, please tell me I'm wrong, I know there has to be more out there, I just don't know what and where and I don't mean mainstream tourism, I've got that part covered. For instance in Patts the other side of the rail tracks is an interesting and adventurous diversion but rarely considered.
Thanks and I'm looking forward to you opening my Phnom Penh horizons.
Sorry FreeWillyBruh. I mean Terrym1. 6 Beers later. One more thing, On what street is at The Office Bar?. And is it OK.
AussieGuy100
11-13-15, 08:11
I'm having a pretty rough time in Phnom Penh's hostess bars. I was really looking forward to spending a month here after breaking up with my Vietnamese girlfriend. I had some awesome times here in the past, but this time the girls keep saying they are on their period when I ask them out. Or they ask for an outrageous amount of money. And if they do come back, they won't allow sex.
I had one good experience at Shanghai. There's no barfine there, but my girl told me to meet her outside at 3. It was good, but she got way too attached, and I don't want a girlfriend.
I met a Viet beauty at one bar. The Cambodians can't hold a candle to them. Of course she would not go with me. Phnom Penh is a frustrating place.
Thinking back to what worked in the past, for each of my good experiences, there had to be some chemistry, either real, or she had to be making an effort. All the girls this time have been cold fishes. They'll let me buy drinks for them, but they aren't interested in anything else.
Either the girls have gotten worse here, or I have lost my mojo.
Heading to Snookyville in a few days. Maybe I will have better luck there.Generally I find it's better to take a girl from PP to Sihanoukville rather than rely on finding a decent one there. It can be really hit and miss down there at the beaches.
I'm having no trouble getting almost every hostess to say yes to going out.
A few tips.
Make sure you are clean and presentable. The girls will respond much better to guys who don't have bad breath and sweaty armpits. If possible be generous with ladydrinks. The girls then think you are a nice guy and are more likely to say yes.
Visit a girl two nights in a row. This makes her feel special and again more likely to say yes when you pop the question on the second visit.
I tend to buy one drink then ask the girl if she "sometimes goes out".
If she says no I can cut my losses. If she says yes then I know I've got a fair chance of her saying yes later.
Stick to the better bars. Look back through previous posts to get an idea of which bars have decent girls and which are perhaps not so good.
Don't be a total cheapskate when negotiating. If you stay chilled it will result in a much better atmosphere later in the bedroom.
Going rates in hostess bars still seem to be 30-40 short time and 35-60 all night. Yes you can always get cheaper rates from smaller sleazier bars or from freelancers.
If a girl quotes you 100 she is politely saying that she doesn't want to go with you. Accept it and move on. Unless you're at Darling Darling at Naga where this seems to be the standard extortionate rate.
Generally I find it's better to take a girl from PP to Sihanoukville rather than rely on finding a decent one there. It can be really hit and miss down there at the beaches.
I'm having no trouble getting almost every hostess to say yes to going out.
A few tips.
Make sure you are clean and presentable. The girls will respond much better to guys who don't have bad breath and sweaty armpits. If possible be generous with ladydrinks. The girls then think you are a nice guy and are more likely to say yes.
Visit a girl two nights in a row. This makes her feel special and again more likely to say yes when you pop the question on the second visit.
I tend to buy one drink then ask the girl if she "sometimes goes out".
If she says no I can cut my losses. If she says yes then I know I've got a fair chance of her saying yes later.
Stick to the better bars. Look back through previous posts to get an idea of which bars have decent girls and which are perhaps not so good.
Don't be a total cheapskate when negotiating. If you stay chilled it will result in a much better atmosphere later in the bedroom.
Going rates in hostess bars still seem to be 30-40 short time and 35-60 all night. Yes you can always get cheaper rates from smaller sleazier bars or from freelancers.
If a girl quotes you 100 she is politely saying that she doesn't want to go with you. Accept it and move on. Unless you're at Darling Darling at Naga where this seems to be the standard extortionate rate.I agre with most of this AG100. In Phnom Penh most girls I ask want to go with me. Many people don't understand or accept the difference to Thailand.
In Phnom Penh I most times pay 40 dollar LT + 10 dollar BF.
I never take girl from Phnom Penh to Sihanoukville. It is very easy to find nice girl in Sihanoukville. I pay most times 30 dollar LT + BF 10 dollar.
My problem was that I was being too picky. After spending time in Pattaya and Angeles, I wanted to suss out the prettiest 21 year old in each bar and take her. But those girls are just distractions. They'll happily let you buy them drinks all night, but have no intention of going. There were plenty of older girls I had some chemistry with that probably would have went with me. And there was the Shanghai girl who wanted to be my girlfriend. This is not point and click like Pattaya. You have to have a real rapport to have a shot taking them out of the bar. It's sort of more like the real world, where you take what you can get.
So I won't be picky in Snookyville.
My problem was that I was being too picky. After spending time in Pattaya and Angeles, I wanted to suss out the prettiest 21 year old in each bar and take her. But those girls are just distractions. They'll happily let you buy them drinks all night, but have no intention of going. There were plenty of older girls I had some chemistry with that probably would have went with me. And there was the Shanghai girl who wanted to be my girlfriend. This is not point and click like Pattaya. You have to have a real rapport to have a shot taking them out of the bar. It's sort of more like the real world, where you take what you can get.
So I won't be picky in Snookyville.I wish you luck in Sihanoukville. I look forward to read your rapport on the Sihanoukville tread.
FunHobby69
11-15-15, 14:09
Generally I find it's better to take a girl from PP to Sihanoukville rather than rely on finding a decent one there. It can be really hit and miss down there at the beaches.
I'm having no trouble getting almost every hostess to say yes to going out.
A few tips.
Make sure you are clean and presentable. The girls will respond much better to guys who don't have bad breath and sweaty armpits. If possible be generous with ladydrinks. The girls then think you are a nice guy and are more likely to say yes.
Visit a girl two nights in a row. This makes her feel special and again more likely to say yes when you pop the question on the second visit.
I tend to buy one drink then ask the girl if she "sometimes goes out".
If she says no I can cut my losses. If she says yes then I know I've got a fair chance of her saying yes later.
Stick to the better bars. Look back through previous posts to get an idea of which bars have decent girls and which are perhaps not so good.
Don't be a total cheapskate when negotiating. If you stay chilled it will result in a much better atmosphere later in the bedroom.
Going rates in hostess bars still seem to be 30-40 short time and 35-60 all night. Yes you can always get cheaper rates from smaller sleazier bars or from freelancers.
If a girl quotes you 100 she is politely saying that she doesn't want to go with you. Accept it and move on. Unless you're at Darling Darling at Naga where this seems to be the standard extortionate rate.Great concise advise AussieGuy. Going Phnom Penh around end first week Dec but only two nights. RTFF for about one year back but didn't make cheat sheet. Also going HK, Siem Reap, Chiangmai Mai, ending in Pattaya for a week and all the info has become a blur except price, warnings, hotels friendly, and general target rich areas. Staying PP along river in 136 street area. Never read distinction between good hostess bar and not for getting a fyt as opposed to more ripened ladies. Unless talking about expensive casino establishments. Not a disco type anymore as it tends to be for younger crowd. Is it just do the walk and check the merchandise as best possible from the 136 street area or are there true and tested bars along this street? Also, is pontoon walk about area also good for hostess bars or just discos along this 51st street (numbering is confusing in google maps as I'm guessing this is Pasture street as no number is listed for this street). I know I've got zero intell but plan on posting daily during my vacation. Play safe. FH69.
FunHobby69
11-15-15, 14:26
Before I get ripped on my earlier post, I see an excellent new and recent discussion on bars in 130 street area. Seems like enough recommendations for my two nights. Thanks to all. Excellent site. I'm a senior member on what appears like sister site for USA Hobbyists so if anyone is visiting Mickey Mouse state, I can provide good Intel.
FH69
Great concise advise AussieGuy. Going Phnom Penh around end first week Dec but only two nights. RTFF for about one year back but didn't make cheat sheet. Also going HK, Siem Reap, Chiangmai Mai, ending in Pattaya for a week and all the info has become a blur except price, warnings, hotels friendly, and general target rich areas. Staying PP along river in 136 street area. Never read distinction between good hostess bar and not for getting a fyt as opposed to more ripened ladies. Unless talking about expensive casino establishments. Not a disco type anymore as it tends to be for younger crowd. Is it just do the walk and check the merchandise as best possible from the 136 street area or are there true and tested bars along this street? Also, is pontoon walk about area also good for hostess bars or just discos along this 51st street (numbering is confusing in google maps as I'm guessing this is Pasture street as no number is listed for this street). I know I've got zero intell but plan on posting daily during my vacation. Play safe. FH69.Yes, Street 51 is Pastur Street. Besides Street 130, I can recommend 104 but also 110 and 118 have some talent inside. The only venue with pretty girls in Street 51 is Shanghai but most girls there are for LD's only. Opposite Shanghai in Black Cat but there YMMV. Good luck, for me another 8 weeks before back in PP.
Pinche Gringo
11-16-15, 00:34
I remember reading once about a BJ / HJ Bar a block or two away from the river from the Blue Pumpkin cafe. I have read back on the forums here and have not found anything. I have a friend who will be traveling to PP for business next week and wanted to give him a heads up on the place. Am I just getting old or is there a place of this sort near the river?
More upward pricing pressures.
Le Crycee bar fine went up from $7 to $10. Mandatory $3 lady drink remains. Girls now will ask for $30 (instead of $25). You probably can get some of the less popular girls to accept less. Hence the price will be $43 ($10 + $3 + $30). Plus the cost of the short time guest house across the street.
Had conversations with a few of the girls. They said all / most of the girls have boyfriends or husbands. Some know, some don't. Hence some of the girls absolutely have to leave when the bar closes.
Even if they don't have a partner, many of them live far away, and life starts early for them. They want to leave on time to get a few hours of sleep.
Neville Nobody
11-16-15, 21:58
My knowledge of Phnom Penh is fairly limited having been there only twice for short periods and that was over 5 years ago. In planning this upcoming trip I realized that from a mongering perspective I was limiting myself basically to an area bounded by what Phnom in the north and Independence Monument in the south and Riverside to Monivong Bvd in the west.
So, please tell me I'm wrong, I know there has to be more out there, I just don't know what and where and I don't mean mainstream tourism, I've got that part covered. For instance in Patts the other side of the rail tracks is an interesting and adventurous diversion but rarely considered.
Thanks and I'm looking forward to you opening my Phnom Penh horizons.Sorry for bumping this question. I asked it earlier but it got buried and lost.
It occurred to me that a possible reason girls didn't want to go with me was where I was staying. Since I was staying for a month, I thought it would be nice to rent an apartment. But short-term apartments are hard to find in Phnom Penh. The only place I would was in the BKK1 neighborhood near Independence Monument. That's a 30 minute walk to Riverside, or a $3 tuk tuk ride. It's a fine area to live, and I have my own moto to get around, so I thought it would be OK. But some girls asked me where I was staying. When I said BKK1 or Independence Monument, they had no idea what I was talking about. Since they had no idea where I was staying, they probably decided they didn't want to go with me.
Something I wonder about is what to do about the real pretty young girls that sucker me into buying them a drink. They don't speak a word of English and there are no games, so it's impossible to build rapport with them. They just stand there aloofly. I just cut my losses and leave. I wonder if folks have any luck just directly asking them to go. I get the feeling they would demur.
FreebieFan
11-17-15, 10:33
It occurred to me that a possible reason girls didn't want to go with me was where I was staying. Since I was staying for a month, I thought it would be nice to rent an apartment. But short-term apartments are hard to find in Phnom Penh. The only place I would was in the BKK1 neighborhood near Independence Monument. That's a 30 minute walk to Riverside, or a $3 tuk tuk ride. It's a fine area to live, and I have my own moto to get around, so I thought it would be OK. But some girls asked me where I was staying. When I said BKK1 or Independence Monument, they had no idea what I was talking about.
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I recently stayed in a nice hotel just past Independance monument. Was in PP for about 5 days. Took tuk tuk ecvery day to and from riverside. Was $2 every time. Never pid more. I know its only $1 difference but no need to over pay. My hotel even had a map showing the area that's a $2 charge. (a big circle from Independence covering all of riverside).
Hi Guys,
Just one quick question. Should I pay for the Girl and for bar fine in USD or local currency. In case generally if the girls are paid in USD then I will not bring 100 USD bills, I will get smaller bills. In case generally if the girls are paid in the local currency then I will exchange my 100 USD bills at the exchange or bank whoever gives better rates.
Thanks
Should I pay for the Girl and for bar fine in USD or local currencyThe de-facto currency is the US dollar. The ATMs dispense US dollars. Someone mentioned that some ATMs dispense both US dollar and Riel. I haven't seen that.
The local currency the Riel, is used as change for a dollar, and it is also used as currency in the local markets (since local people are paid in Riel). Local market is defined as the outdoor markets. Malls and high end products are priced in US dollars.
The quick exchange number is 4000 Riel for $1. The market rate is 4000 something. Around 4060 (it varies). You can gain couple of percent if you exchange the US dollar for Riel. You can exchange it at the exchange booths / houses. They are around everywhere. Decent rates are around the Central Market.
Some bars / restaurants will only accept Riel at 4100 to $1, so you will lose a little in the exchange rate.
Hence...You can pay with Riel in order to save couple of percent. But some places won't accept Riel at the 4000 rate. I am assuming the girls won't complain.
Traveler1234
11-17-15, 20:18
Hi Guys,
Just one quick question. Should I pay for the Girl and for bar fine in USD or local currency.
ThanksUS $ widely used, bars, girls and tuk drivers all prefer same; just bring small denominations.
Went to several hostess bars on Street 136 and 104 last night. In those bars, lady drinks went up from $3 to $3.50, with the girl getting $1.50 instead of $1.
Something I wonder about is what to do about the real pretty young girls that sucker me into buying them a drink. They don't speak a word of English and there are no games, so it's impossible to build rapport with them. They just stand there aloofly. I just cut my losses and leave. I wonder if folks have any luck just directly asking them to go. I get the feeling they would demur.If you care about that drink, you should ask her "do you barfine?" before you buy her that drink.
The hostess bar usually have games behind the bar, such as connect 4 and dice games.
You can ask the girl to massage you. You can also probably grab her ass, over her clothes. You can also ask a girl, who speaks English well, to be a translator (although this will add to the cost).
To reduce your cost, you can just give her tips (dollar bills) and not buy lady drinks.
- There was a decent looking young (18 or 19) girl at Zanibar on Street 104. Her sister said she was a virgin and didn't barfine. I asked if she "yum yum". They just laughed.
FreeWillyBruh
11-18-15, 12:56
Went to several hostess bars on Street 136 and 104 last night. In those bars, lady drinks went up from $3 to $3.50, with the girl getting $1.50 instead of $1.
If you care about that drink, you should ask her "do you barfine?" before you buy her that drink.
The hostess bar usually have games behind the bar, such as connect 4 and dice games.
You can ask the girl to massage you. You can also probably grab her ass, over her clothes. You can also ask a girl, who speaks English well, to be a translator (although this will add to the cost).
To reduce your cost, you can just give her tips (dollar bills) and not buy lady drinks.
- There was a decent looking young (18 or 19) girl at Zanibar on Street 104. Her sister said she was a virgin and didn't barfine. I asked if she "yum yum". They just laughed.These are great tactics Green Bud that I will deploy next month and thanks for the update on the increased costs. I don't mind buying rounds of drinks but would always get pissed when I went to barfine the now drunk hottie, and the, No, she no go ensues!
Are there and bars in PP where everyone is barfinable?
Member #4698
11-19-15, 03:44
Are there any bars in PP where everyone is barfinable?Yeah, Darling Darling in Naga World Casino Hotel, but DD is not a hostess bar. It is an international hotel FL pickup bar like Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore or CJ's at the Mulia Hotel in Jakarta. Darling Darling is like travelling to another world compared to the Riverside hostess bars. DD fills up and gets very busy with customers and girls by 11pm every night (in March and April anyway when I usually visit PP). They have a rock and roll cover band. The music is decent. Sometimes there is not an empty seat in the house, but that does not matter. You can stand by the bar or find girls in the atrium where there is more seating. Most of the customers are high rolling Asians, but there are always a few farangs like myself there as well. The big incentive to come to this bar is obviously the large number of good looking FL's that are present there every night. The girls are Cambodian and all the FL's in Darling Darling are there for pick up. There is no doubt about that and no games. You will never hear a girl say she is on her "mens" here and they are not looking for drinks per se. Just start up a conversation with any available girl you like. $100 for Short Time is the price. The girls will not come down from that. They would rather head over to Pontoon around 3am to try their luck there if they can't land a customer at DD. The girls dress upscale, are well coiffed, and on average look better than most hostess girls, but not all. I have picked up a number of great girls here and most have given me the GFE. A funny thing is after the first night ST session, my favorite girls wanted to see me again and on the 2nd night they always forgot about the ST and gave me LT for the same price without my asking. Go figure Khmer girls. They are a mystery to me. That is part of their charm. I still like hanging out in my favorite hostess bars early in the evening, say from 8:30 to 10:30, but if I don't find any hostess girls worth barfining I happily head over to Darling Darling around 11pm. It is my Ace in the Hole when I am visiting Phnom Penh.
Nagaworld casino girls are upscale and kind of snotty. I took few girls from the bar and satisfaction is 50-50. Not at all GFE. I paid $60 LT. If you are staying at the casino hotel it is good. However you will find very good GFE girls at other local bars.
I would take a nice looking girl from one of the bars into the casino. They really get the the thrill. Of course I ask them to dress up. You get free Buffett dinner at the casino. Just go to the host desk and ask for two vouchers. No question asked. Very good tasty Buffett.
Casino bar girls are primarily looking for Asian gamblers who need a quick romp and pay good.
Member #4698
11-20-15, 00:31
Hi Sammon,
You are a better man than me if you paid only $60 for LT with your Darling Darling girls. Do you speak Khmer? I ask because I never got the girls to go under $100 for me. Then again I don't really negotiate with my girls. I either accept their price or politely bow out if I think it is too high. I prefer instead to concentrate on creating a good vibe with the girl. Maybe that's why my satisfaction rate is 100% with these girls. I don't know.
I posted a couple of trip reports about my two 2014 Darling Darling girls at the time, but I don't think I posted a detailed report about my 2015 trip. It was a lot of fun. I will check my journal entries that I keep while travelling and post updates of my Phnom Penh experiences. The two Darling Darling girls I met this year were really nice. I fondly remember lying on the couch in my hotel room one night, semi nude, and holding one of my girls close. The lights were turned low and she was singing traditional Khmer love songs softly in my ear. Then later we shagged while the love songs continued on the TV. It was a very good night.
NB.
P.S. Thanks for the good tip about the casino dinner buffet. I think I will try it next time I visit the Naga World Casino.
FreeWillyBruh
11-20-15, 00:47
Hi Sammon,
You are a better man than me if you paid only $60 for LT with your Darling Darling girls. Do you speak Khmer? I ask because I never got the girls to go under $100 for me. Then again I don't really negotiate with my girls. I either accept their price or politely bow out if I think it is too high. I prefer instead to concentrate on creating a good vibe with the girl. Maybe that's why my satisfaction rate is 100% with these girls. I don't know.
I posted a couple of trip reports about my two 2014 Darling Darling girls at the time, but I don't think I posted a detailed report about my 2015 trip. It was a lot of fun. I will check my journal entries that I keep while travelling and post updates of my Phnom Penh experiences. The two Darling Darling girls I met this year were really nice. I fondly remember lying together on the couch in my hotel room one night semi nude with one of my girls. The lights were turned low and she was singing traditional Khmer love songs softly in my ear. Then later we shagged while the love songs continued on the TV. It was a very good night.
NB.
P.S. Thanks for the good tip about the casino dinner buffet. I think I will try it next time I visit the Naga World Casino.Thanks again Natty and Sammon as your reports will certainly assist me next month. I just hope some prework can weed out the uninterested and maybe get lucky with a PSE. Appreciate the info!
Lots of guys are happy to spend an extra dollar on a drink to have a nice young lady to sit with them. That's what the bars are organized around for the most part. The girls aren't looking to fuck multiple guys a day and make big money. If they were they would work in a fish bowl.
Have a nice day.Well there's pages and pages of guys here reporting frustration with those bars. One guy after another reports buying lots of drinks only to eventually find out the girl won't go out. Sorry, really hard to believe bar owners are not aware of this particular customer service problem. If they want to clear things up they could just stop letting girls go out for ST or FT. Then we would see how many guys are happy to spend extra dollars to just sit with a nice young lady and talk.
It occurred to me that a possible reason girls didn't want to go with me was where I was staying. Since I was staying for a month, I thought it would be nice to rent an apartment. But short-term apartments are hard to find in Phnom Penh. The only place I would was in the BKK1 neighborhood near Independence Monument. That's a 30 minute walk to Riverside, or a $3 tuk tuk ride. It's a fine area to live, and I have my own moto to get around, so I thought it would be OK. But some girls asked me where I was staying. When I said BKK1 or Independence Monument, they had no idea what I was talking about. Since they had no idea where I was staying, they probably decided they didn't want to go with me.
Something I wonder about is what to do about the real pretty young girls that sucker me into buying them a drink. They don't speak a word of English and there are no games, so it's impossible to build rapport with them. They just stand there aloofly. I just cut my losses and leave. I wonder if folks have any luck just directly asking them to go. I get the feeling they would demur.Sorry, a bit off topic here but can I ask how much you paid for a months rent in a local neighborhood? I was there a few years ago and thought about coming back and staying a month or two. I'll probably stay at NaNa hotel for a bit, they gave me 18 usd for a week stay w / breakfast which is reasonable but rooms are tiny.
Well there's pages and pages of guys here reporting frustration with those bars. One guy after another reports buying lots of drinks only to eventually find out the girl won't go out. Sorry, really hard to believe bar owners are not aware of this particular customer service problem. If they want to clear things up they could just stop letting girls go out for ST or FT. Then we would see how many guys are happy to spend extra dollars to just sit with a nice young lady and talk.There are several bars that don't have bar fines or let workers leave with customers, and they have been around longer than all the other bars. Shanghai is one very good example.
Bars where every woman bar fines every time are among the least busy and least popular. See Island Bar and City Bar. Customers are few and far between.
There's really no excuse to wander blindly into a bar in this day and age especially for people who know sites like this exist. You can know what a place is like before you visit and you can find out the difference between hostess bars and brothels.
Nagaworld casino girls are upscale and kind of snotty. I took few girls from the bar and satisfaction is 50-50. Not at all GFE. I paid $60 LT. If you are staying at the casino hotel it is good. However you will find very good GFE girls at other local bars.
I would take a nice looking girl from one of the bars into the casino. They really get the the thrill. Of course I ask them to dress up. You get free Buffett dinner at the casino. Just go to the host desk and ask for two vouchers. No question asked. Very good tasty Buffett.
Casino bar girls are primarily looking for Asian gamblers who need a quick romp and pay good.Naga girls are dirt poor rice farmers daughters just like the women in the hostess bars. They simply know how to hustle. Proof is that many of the current crop used to or still do freelance at places like sharkys, pontoon and martini before or after working Naga.
They ask 100 in Naga because it's full of Asian guys who spend it. The same women short time for 30 when freelancing at other places and fuck their unemployed uneducated local boyfriends for free. Nothing upscale about them at all.
Upscale women in Cambodia remain virgins until they are married and never go anywhere near prostitutes. They don't even share the same hair dressers. They drive Lexus not moto dops. Etc etc etc.
Naga girls are dirt poor rice farmers daughters just like the women in the hostess bars. They simply know how to hustle. Proof is that many of the current crop used to or still do freelance at places like sharkys, pontoon and martini before or after working Naga.
They ask 100 in Naga because it's full of Asian guys who spend it. The same women short time for 30 when freelancing at other places and fuck their unemployed uneducated local boyfriends for free. Nothing upscale about them at all.
Upscale women in Cambodia remain virgins until they are married and never go anywhere near prostitutes. They don't even share the same hair dressers. They drive Lexus not moto dops. Etc etc etc.By upscale I meant good looking with nice bodies. Of course at Naga they demand higher price. As everybody know casino patrons pay more. These days virgins are hard to find irrespective of what social circle they come from. Like one AC girl told she is virgin for the day meaning nobody fucked her that day-LOL.
Matt Navan Man
11-22-15, 20:20
One of the few reasons Cyrcee was interesting amongst the happiness was that it had its ducks in a row and good control over its staff. Sadly this has ended at Cyrcee with the foreign customer, living locally or tourist, susceptible to price gauging from the girls. Having asked questions this is not a training issue but rather an issue that the staff member believes the foreigner can pay more. Price gauging at Cyrcee is a sad thing, Be careful when in the rooms with multiple girls.
I don't see how price gouging is even possible at cyrcee. There's no discussion of price. After the deed a guy gives the gal or gals 25-30 each and that's that. Has worked fine for years.
In the informal markets of Asia asking "how much" is basically an invitation to be overcharged. But in Cambodia even that naive question is usually answered with "up to you" allowing a second chance to pay the going rate.
By upscale I meant good looking with nice bodies. Of course at Naga they demand higher price. As everybody know casino patrons pay more. These days virgins are hard to find irrespective of what social circle they come from. Like one AC girl told she is virgin for the day meaning nobody fucked her that day-LOL.Cambodia isn't the Philippines or Thailand. Any woman from a respectable family (rich or otherwise) is basically sequestered until marriage. They don't go anywhere alone, they usually don't go out at night, etc. Teenage pregnancy is rare. There are millions of virgins over 20 years old which is now a rarity in most of Asia. It's still one of the most conservative countries outside of the Arab world when it comes to sex.
Cambodia isn't the Philippines or Thailand. Any woman from a respectable family (rich or otherwise) is basically sequestered until marriage. They don't go anywhere alone, they usually don't go out at night, etc. Teenage pregnancy is rare. There are millions of virgins over 20 years old which is now a rarity in most of Asia. It's still one of the most conservative countries outside of the Arab world when it comes to sex.Actually the virginity issue only applies to the families with money, what some people call the "middle class. " The vast majority are not middle class and many fuck like bunnies whenever no one is looking and teenage pregnancy is common.
This is also the way it is with Laos and long time ago in Thailand. Indonesia has a version of this viewpoint too.
It has nothing to do with Cambodia. It's just a few foreigner bars in PP. Face it, dude. It's stupid. Nobody goes to those bars looking to find wives. That's mental.First, I'm not your dude. Please be more polite when you give response to others post. Accept that people are different and that this is not mental.
Well there's pages and pages of guys here reporting frustration with those bars. One guy after another reports buying lots of drinks only to eventually find out the girl won't go out. Sorry, really hard to believe bar owners are not aware of this particular customer service problem. If they want to clear things up they could just stop letting girls go out for ST or FT. Then we would see how many guys are happy to spend extra dollars to just sit with a nice young lady and talk.The bars in Phnom Penh's is not like they are in Thailand. Whether you like it or not, that is the way it is.
I have taken many girls home from various bars in Phnom Penh. Only very rarely has a girl said no. Try to look at your own person. If you are gross, you do not have many chances.
I go most to bars driven by farangs. This because there it is the toilets cleanest and the girls sweetest. My experience is that the owners are very attentive to the girls' behavior.
Some girls never or rarely go with custommers. If you are new in a bar and want to be sure not to give drinks to a girl who never goes with custommers, ask the girl upfront or talk to the cashier first. If you're in a bar with a farang owner, talk to him.
Actually the virginity issue only applies to the families with money, what some people call the "middle class. " The vast majority are not middle class and many fuck like bunnies whenever no one is looking and teenage pregnancy is common.
This is also the way it is with Laos and long time ago in Thailand. Indonesia has a version of this viewpoint too.No. It applies to everyone. The peasant majority deals with this more than anyone else in fact. They live in small villages where everyone knows everything quickly. Losing virginity before marriage is a huge disgrace to the family and eliminates the ability of the family to extract a decent bride price at wedding time. For people who make 1000-3000 dollars a year this is a major issue.
Again, Cambodia is not Thailand or the Philippines or Laos or anywhere else, even if they look similar to outsiders.
There is more anonymity in the big cities, or in the case of Cambodia the one big city of Phnom Penh. With that comes a little more freedom, but not much. As anyone who has lived there for any amount of time can tell you, you run into the same people over and over. That's even more common for Cambodians with extended families, friends, school mates, etc. Rumors spread fast, judgement is very harsh, and family pressure can be too much to bear.
There is a reason most prostitution was done by Vietnamese women in the years during and immediately following UNTAC. Even coming out of brutal war and famine most Khmer people wouldn't consider sex work in those early days.
Cambodia isn't the Philippines or Thailand. Any woman from a respectable family (rich or otherwise) is basically sequestered until marriage. They don't go anywhere alone, they usually don't go out at night, etc. Teenage pregnancy is rare. There are millions of virgins over 20 years old which is now a rarity in most of Asia. It's still one of the most conservative countries outside of the Arab world when it comes to sex.All over the world including Phi and Thailand virginity is taken seriously before marriage. Many parents are very strict. At the same time it is impossible to watch girls constantly and restrict their movements. Girls lie all the time saying they are going to stay with their girlfriends. It happened to me many times. They get constant calls from their parents while I am fucking her. She will tell them she is fine etc. It takes very little to loose virginity. Even in very strict middle eastern families when the girls are outside of their family control they run wild. Same all over the world.
I had a virgin in Thailand who was 25 years old. She said she came from a strict family. At the same time she was trying to get a nice man to marry her. Got tired of waiting. For many girls one time sex means they are still technical virgins.
All over the world including Phi and Thailand virginity is taken seriously before marriage. Many parents are very strict. At the same time it is impossible to watch girls constantly and restrict their movements. Girls lie all the time saying they are going to stay with their girlfriends. It happened to me many times. They get constant calls from their parents while I am fucking her. She will tell them she is fine etc. It takes very little to loose virginity. Even in very strict middle eastern families when the girls are outside of their family control they run wild. Same all over the world.
I had a virgin in Thailand who was 25 years old. She said she came from a strict family. At the same time she was trying to get a nice man to marry her. Got tired of waiting. For many girls one time sex means they are still technical virgins.All over the world? Who expects to marry a virgin in USA or France? No one. Most guys I know wouldn't consider it. It's rare in the Philippines even though the church promotes it. Thailand talks about it but it's pretty common for Thai women to lose their virginity before marriage as all the unwed teen mothers show.
Cambodia is different. The majority of women marry as virgins and teen pregnancy without marriage is very rare. Any single mother came out of a divorce rather than a runaway boyfriend as you see in Thailand, Philippines, etc.
Don't take my word for it. Check the stats. I won't post a bunch of studies here but they confirm what my experience suggests.
Laos and Isaan are full of unmarried mothers who got knocked up in their teens. Same with the Philippines. Cambodia is quantively different.
The percentage of women under 19 in Cambodia who have had children is 8%. This is country where sex education is almost non existent and rural marriages involving 15-16 year old girls are common.
On the other hand Thailand and Laos have the highest percentage of unmarried teen pregnancies in ASEAN, followed by the Philippines.
AussieGuy100
11-27-15, 03:58
The bars in Phnom Penh's is not like they are in Thailand. Whether you like it or not, that is the way it is.
I have taken many girls home from various bars in Phnom Penh. Only very rarely has a girl said no. Try to look at your own person. If you are gross, you do not have many chances.
I go most to bars driven by farangs. This because there it is the toilets cleanest and the girls sweetest. My experience is that the owners are very attentive to the girls' behavior.
Some girls never or rarely go with custommers. If you are new in a bar and want to be sure not to give drinks to a girl who never goes with custommers, ask the girl upfront or talk to the cashier first. If you're in a bar with a farang owner, talk to him.I agree with most of what you say and it's good advice. Especially about asking the owner, if he is a westerner. Though most of the bars are Cambodian owned and managed. Foreign owned and managed bars include Cheers, Soft Spot, Top Ten and Matilda's on street 104, Honeypot, Loco, Angry Birds, Lotus Girls and Simply the Best on street 130, Valhalla on 102, Narys and Pretty Woman on 110.
But I think that if you ask a bargirl straight away "do you go out with customers?" without even buying her one drink, she is much more likely to say no than if you at least buy her one drink (it's only $3. 50), chat to her, let her feel more relaxed about you, and then ask her.
And ask "do you sometimes go out?" rather than "do you go out?" Because the girl wants to keep the option of saying yes or no to you while she gets to know you a bit better. If you just ask her straight out, her default answer is likely to be NO, whereas if you've taken ten minutes to talk to her a bit, she is much more likely to say yes.
The key thing to remember about hostesses here is that they are SELECTIVE about when and who they will go out with. It is not a meat market environment like the Philippines or Thailand. So increase your chance of her saying yes by being a little bit patient.
If you can't be patient, there are places in Phnom Penh that are 'grab and go'. Cyrcee Bar in St 49, Golden Sorya Mall in St 51, the two or three fishbowl massage places around town, Darling Darling lounge in Nagaworld (but $100! Walkabout Hotel in 51 and a few other places.
Hey guys!
It has been 3 years that I haven't been to PP and I am coming for a week in December!
I used to love Martini as it was quite chilled and I liked the Viet freelancers there, some real lookers for a normal price, meaning not Darling Darling prices which I find outrageous when you compare to what you would find in Pattaya for the same price. Where do all these girls go nowadays? Pontoon? HoD?
Also, I was just wondering how much bottle service costs in Pontoon nowadays, IE bottle of Smirnoff or Finland? Also can you keep your bottle for the next day if unfinished? Also is there a VIP area?
Last time I was in PP I used to stick with hostess bars and Martini or quick drink at Pontoon but I'd like to give discos a better shot this time.
Cheers!
Hey guys!
It has been 3 years that I haven't been to PP and I am coming for a week in December!
I used to love Martini as it was quite chilled and I liked the Viet freelancers there, some real lookers for a normal price, meaning not Darling Darling prices which I find outrageous when you compare to what you would find in Pattaya for the same price. Where do all these girls go nowadays? Pontoon? HoD?
Also, I was just wondering how much bottle service costs in Pontoon nowadays, IE bottle of Smirnoff or Finland? Also can you keep your bottle for the next day if unfinished? Also is there a VIP area?
Last time I was in PP I used to stick with hostess bars and Martini or quick drink at Pontoon but I'd like to give discos a better shot this time.
Cheers!Martine is closed down. Really sucked at the end.
Girls mostly go to Pontoon and G-Pub afterward. However there is a new set-up in Pontoon competing with G-Pub for afterhours.
Bottle service starts at around 65 USD.
Keeping the bottle no prob.
No VIP area.
Have fun. As I had all the times.
Aussie Fella
12-04-15, 07:47
I landed in PP in late afternoon and it was straight into a tuk-tuk (since the pickup I'd arranged with the hotel didn't appear) and on to my lodgings at The Walkabout. After a shower and shave it was off for a feed and to see what was going on. I stopped in the downstairs bar for a quick roadie and was quickly latched onto by a reasonable looking lady whose name sounded something like Latina. She wasn't unattractive but not quite my type on only one beer; more of a later at night when a bit sauced prospect. I finished my drink, bid her farewell and was on my way for more imbibing.
I won't bore you with the details of my aimless wanderings, but rather head straight to the guts of the story. I decided to head into Honeypot Bar and promptly had a supreme cutie named Abbey vying for my attention. She's 21 and quite pretty with a kicking body. I bought her a drink and sounded her out about whether she goes with customers (she does sometimes) and how much for ST ($40 - $50). After a couple of games of Connect 4 - and a couple more drinks. I told her that I wanted to take her out and she agreed. I paid the barfine and, considering how attractive I found her, was feeling pretty good. That was to change. We got something to eat and had a drink in the Walkabout bar before heading upstairs. Oh, forgot to mention that she insisted her friend accompany us as she is 'scared' of the Walkabout as it's haunted. Huh?? Yep, I know the warning bells should've been ringing with that but my 'little head' was firmly in control by this stage. So her friend waited outside whilst we got down to it. She disrobed and her body was just as hot as I'd anticipated. Firm, decent sized tits, flat stomach, tight arse and not too much pubic hair (although any is too much for my tastes). This is when it all goes to pot. I try to kiss her but she's pretty much unresponsive. OK, I think, a little nipple sucking will warm her up. Nope: nipple sucking is not allowed as she's 'ticklish'. Arrrrgh. So I kiss her neck a bit whilst digitally stimulating her pussy. After a bit I go down for some DATY. I can see her breathing change so I know it's feeling good but she won't make eye contact. So here comes the worst (and most embarrassing) part: I taste and feel that she's gotten moist so I think I'll attempt entry. Only to find that the combination of a long day's traveling, a few beers, and the lack of her responsiveness combine to leave the little fella as limp as the lettuce in a post Christmas salad. FFS! Anyway, long story short, I made do with a hand job and then sprayed all over her sumptuous tits. I paid her and she left. All in all, a rather disappointing night.
I hope it gets better from here!
Hi Guys,
Just some tips after my recent Phnom Penh Visit.
1. Visa on arrival USD 30 takes less than a minute. Don't change local currency. USD is more than sufficient to buy and they return back in USD.
2. Take a local sim card at the airport buy a package for 5 or 10 USD depending on your requirement.
3. Take a hotel either near the riverside as the best action places are nearby.
4. Best places to pick up are the 130,136 and 104 street.
5. Plenty of restaurants on the same street.
6. For life music visit Oscar on 104 street. Live music after 10 pm from Wed to Sun.
7. Before 9 pm its happy hour its 1 usd for a beer and after than it is 1.5 or 1.75 Usd depending on the bars.
8. Best pick up bars are Oasis, Loco, Candy, Bluebird, Oscar, 136 bar. Girls is these bars don't push you for drinks.
9. There are a few very beautiful lady boys in 130 and 136 street bars in case someone fancies.
10. Once you enter the bars girls will come to you. Don't buy drink for her right away unless someone gives you good company and is cooperative.
11. Drinks for girls in the bar is 3.50 USD. Bar fine to pick up is USD 10.
12. In case you pick up from the bars the girls will ask you for 50 USD. I did not pay more than 25 USD at any bar. Use bargaining skills.
13. Hotel at times charge guest fees. My hotel charged me USD 5 every time.
14. Avoid Phatoon and Heart of darkness night club. Starts late and girls there are snobs.
15. Avoid walkabout bar, Only free lance old hags in the bar.
Most of the girls are very friendly and will give you a great time. So Happy mongering.
Hi Guys,
Just some tips after my recent Phnom Penh Visit.
1. Visa on arrival USD 30 takes less than a minute. Don't change local currency. USD is more than sufficient to buy and they return back in USD.
2. Take a local sim card at the airport buy a package for 5 or 10 USD depending on your requirement.
3. Take a hotel either near the riverside as the best action places are nearby.
4. Best places to pick up are the 130,136 and 104 street.
5. Plenty of restaurants on the same street.
6. For life music visit Oscar on 104 street. Live music after 10 pm from Wed to Sun.
7. Before 9 pm its happy hour its 1 usd for a beer and after than it is 1.5 or 1.75 Usd depending on the bars.
8. Best pick up bars are Oasis, Loco, Candy, Bluebird, Oscar, 136 bar. Girls is these bars don't push you for drinks.
9. There are a few very beautiful lady boys in 130 and 136 street bars in case someone fancies.
10. Once you enter the bars girls will come to you. Don't buy drink for her right away unless someone gives you good company and is cooperative.
11. Drinks for girls in the bar is 3.50 USD. Bar fine to pick up is USD 10.
12. In case you pick up from the bars the girls will ask you for 50 USD. I did not pay more than 25 USD at any bar. Use bargaining skills.
13. Hotel at times charge guest fees. My hotel charged me USD 5 every time.
14. Avoid Phatoon and Heart of darkness night club. Starts late and girls there are snobs.
15. Avoid walkabout bar, Only free lance old hags in the bar.
Most of the girls are very friendly and will give you a great time. So Happy mongering.Yes, yes and yes. Only I never tried to pay a guest fee at my hotels.
Aussie Fella
12-06-15, 13:07
Night 2.
Nothing of any interest to report. Went out with a friend who lives here teaching English and spent the night getting plastered on vodka tonics in Rose Bar. Did chat with an attractive freelancer called Ahching but she wouldn't come to Walkabout. She has a stunning 18 yo sister who works behind the bar at Rose but the sis doesn't speak English and is a virgin. Not my thing.
Night 3.
Much better than night 1! Started out at Fire Bar for some quiet lagers and proceeded from there to Lotus, Rose, Angry Birds, and Honey Pot. I don't understand people's complaints about the talent here as there are some real hotties scattered through the bars and they know how to make an overweight, middle aged bloke feel as though he could give Brad Pitt a run for his money.
I hit Honey Pot shortly before closing (3 am) and got chatting to Dy (sounds like Dee) who was the third wheel who accomplished Abbey to the night 1 debacle. I was a bit apprehensive about going to the bar as I half expected roars of derisive laughter at my ignominious failure but all was fine. I asked Dy if she wanted to come back with me and she was keen. She told me not to pay the barfine as the bar was about to close and she would just meet me at the front of my guesthouse which is only a few doors down the road. Happily there was plenty of lead in the pencil this time. Unlike Abbey, Dy was right into things. She has a surprisingly good body for someone who's had a kid, with decently firm tits; none of the devastation that ruins so many Filipinas. She was good with properly making out and happy to suck dick. The only negative was her slight impatience. I'd had a massage with happy ending in the late arvo which, combined with having drunk a lot during the night, led to a good, long fucking before finally cumming. She asked a few times if I'd cum yet, which is a little irritating. Still, a minor annoyance in the scheme of things. Eventually the climax came and a good night was complete.
Simple question for the PP veterans: How long to stay?
I'm planning a quickish trip in February, I'll probably have 6 nights max. Is that too long to stay in PP? I'm thinking I might pop over to Saigon for a few nights, as I can always have fun there. It seems PP certainly has more bars, but do they all tend to blend together in the mind after a few nights?
TIA!
Simple question for the PP veterans: How long to stay?
I'm planning a quickish trip in February, I'll probably have 6 nights max. Is that too long to stay in PP? I'm thinking I might pop over to Saigon for a few nights, as I can always have fun there. It seems PP certainly has more bars, but do they all tend to blend together in the mind after a few nights?
TIA!Being a returning customer gives you big advantages like getting the upstairs semi private pool area reserved for you and one or two girls, nobody will come upstairs, bar staff will take care of that. And possibly a certain discount, at least you will be more popular with the BG's. But to be honest, my intel is now 2 years old so it might have changed a bit. I will see in a months time.
Member #4589
12-07-15, 07:05
Simple question for the PP veterans: How long to stay?
I'm planning a quickish trip in February, I'll probably have 6 nights max. Is that too long to stay in PP? I'm thinking I might pop over to Saigon for a few nights, as I can always have fun there. It seems PP certainly has more bars, but do they all tend to blend together in the mind after a few nights?
TIA!From my experience (was in PP for 12 weeks and left in Sept 2015), 6 days is more than enough for mongering. PP is a relatively small city and a lot of the attractions are all pretty close by. For quick in and out STs, nothing beats Cycree Bar. There are other small bars here and there, but I found Cycree bar the best and most straightforward (I'm also Black so that factors in as well. A girl at a bar once said 'she doesn't go home with black customers', so yea, there's that).
Pontoon is really not the best for mongering, there are alot of girls there, but some of them can be quite smug. Not to say you won't be able to find what your looking for (again, maybe it's just because I'm black. Mongering in Asia for me has been terrible. Malaysia, China, Cambodia. Thailand was the only decent experience I had). I still say go at least once just to see what the hubbub is about.
I would suggest Siahnoukville. I really enjoyed it, but then again, I'm early 20's so the crowd is quite different. There are clubs on the beach and alot of providers there. Just be careful as there are some ladyboys (idk if that's your thing) and ICEd up providers. Alternatively, you can find a girl from PP and take her down with you to Sihanoukville, always a good option.
So yes, 6 days is plenty to catch the flair of PP. Hope that helps.
Aussie Fella
12-07-15, 13:03
Night 4.
Just another night in PP really. Whilst I'm still loving it, it's surprising how quickly what was eye-popping exciting a few days ago has become the normal. I was about to pop into a corner restaurant to get some dinner when a couple of the young scarf sellers my (female) teacher friend has befriended came up to say Hi. They're a nice couple of girls whose English skills are really good. They were interested to know where my friend was and I told them I wasn't sure but she was probably at her lodgings. The bossier. And older. Of the two expressed her displeasure that I'd been left to my own devices and that she thought my friend should be spending all her time with me. It did make me laugh and I reassured her that I was quite OK doing my own thing. I asked if they'd eaten and, since they hadn't, invited them to have dinner with me. They wasted no time accepting the invitation and we sat down at a table and ordered. I'm sure there would have been a few do-gooder sticky beaks who'd have assumed something dodgy was going on, but as far as I'm concerned, if that's the way their minds work, it's their problem, not mine. The older girl (13) told me how she doesn't like that my friend has had a few different boyfriends and that she intends to be a virgin when she marries as she believes a woman should save herself for her husband. It's a sweet idea and I didn't say anything to disabuse her of that stance. We ate our meal and had a laugh when the waiter gave her the bill to be paid. Naturally, I paid the bill and bid them a good night. Unfortunately they would be working until late in the night even though they both had school the next morning. It's nice that I was able to do something small for them and I'm sure I got as much enjoyment in giving as they did in receiving. Of course, one could never do such a thing in PI as the act of eating a meal with kids without their parents being there is highly illegal and I'd be putting myself at serious risk of arrest and the extraction of a huge bribe. What an ill-conceived, backwards law.
Again, I started out with quiet beers at Fire Bar as it's across the road from my guesthouse. This time I decided to wander over to 136 street and into the Candy Bar. There were some cute girls there but also a few too many ladyboys so I paid my bill and popped across the road to Xanadu. I sat with a tall, thin, beautiful lady named Smoy. After buying her a drink, I sounded her out about whether she goes with customers and how much she charges. She does go, but said she charges $60, which is a bit higher than I'm used to paying (my first two were $40). I suppose I could have negotiated but I really couldn't be bothered so finished my drink, paid the bill and moved on. She's a very pretty lady and I'm sure she'd have no problems finding someone else happy to pay over the odds. From here it was a walk to 104 and drinks at a couple of bars there. Eventually I wound up back at 130 at around 2 am and stopped at Lotus Bar. There's one reasonably cute girl that works there but she doesn't speak more than a couple of English so she wasn't an option. I ended up going with a girl named Amom, who is not particularly pretty but has a decent body. I asked her how much and got the usual 'Up to you' reply, so, $30 it is. We headed back to the guesthouse and had a good time. She was very happy to suck so I suggested we try a 69. She wasn't sure what to do but once I'd explained it she was an eager participant. From there she moved around to cowgirl and then we finished in mish. She asked if it was OK for her to leave and it was fine by me. Having the bed to myself was an attractive prospect.
So, after a good night I awoke this morning feeling like shit. I must have eaten something dodgy as all day I've felt like I was going to puke and also had the squirts (sorry. TMI I know). I may go out for one or two quiet drinks tonight but it's going to be an early one.
Nice pics of Asian ****.Can you tell me: why you have to quote the howl Page for writing 1 Phrase?
Can you tell me: why you have to quote the howl Page for writing 1 Phrase?Because UpCountry is a real asshole. He never write a proper report. He only write the stupid "nice pic bla bla". Put him on your "ignore list". He is a waste of time. Jackson should delete him as a member of ISG.
Night 4.
I suppose I could have negotiated but I really couldn't be bothered.Ha, ha, sounds like me in recent years. If I want to negotiate, I can fuck "freebies. " I fuck prostitutes because I don't want the hassle.
Nice reports Aussie Fella!
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I have been to Pontoon dozens, maybe hundreds of times, dating back to the days when it was on a boat and the name therefore made sense. These days it is hands down the number one freelancer bar in Phnom Penh as far as quantity of girls is concerned. The attitudes can range form great to completely stuck on themselves. I've only been to Darling, Darling a few times. The women there are on average, better looking--at least to my eye. Some of them do work other bars also, including Pontoon, but not nearly as many as did a few years ago. As Naga caters primarily to Asian customers, the girls there also tend to be the type that Asian men mostly prefer--light skinned and taller than average. For that reason, I have also encountered a much higher percentage of Chinese Cambodian girls there than at any other bar. Girls' attitudes there also vary greatly. As noted, the asking price at Darling, Darling seems to be $100 when at Pontoon it can be as little as $20 in the low season. In either bar, dressing at least moderately well can make a very big difference in how well you get on.
Neville Nobody
12-31-15, 04:29
Do the lovely hostesses at I Say Bar avail themselves for takeout? So far I am impressed with the lineup. Maybe it's because they seem to be well dressed.
Hi,
Anyone in PP between 4-7 Jan 2016?
Roaming Viking
01-04-16, 10:41
Hello all,
This is my first report ever. I have done a lot of mongering across SE Asia and feel that it is time to share some of my experiences. Also, I am looking for feedback. I welcome any tips from my fellow mongers.
Well, I find myself back in Phnom Penh where I spent a lot time working last year. Staying in Flamingo Hotel, which is just as I remember it. Very nice reception. The girls downstairs are super friendly (and so sexy, wish they were available but they are not) and helpful and so I do not understand some of the negative comments I have read recently about Flamingo. The Internet in my room is working just fine. I always have concerns about my valuables but take precautions.
Anyway I started out by having a snack at the Golden Sorya mall. Still a lot of hags and skinny looking crazies. The one waitress I befriended last year (Lily) seems to be gone. Black frizzy hairdo. We had some memorable times in my hotel room and I was hoping to reconnect. Anyone have an update? Late at night (they are open until the wee hours, I might add) there are some nice girls hanging around but I did not feel tempted.
Headed to Cyrcee where I fond a gorgeous girl with the most beautiful tits. She let me sample them at the bar since there were no other customers; there rarely are. I invited her back to my room after closing time but she never showed. Perhaps they frown on this practice but it never used to be a problem before. The French owner was away on holiday so I did not have a chance to talk to him. I will head back tonight for sure and this time take my lovely to the short time hotel across the street. She wants $30, which is standard.
Now this afternoon I was looking for that massage parlor off Sisowath Quay and think I found my way back. They now do outcall as well. SK Massage on no 22 E on 118 street. $10 for an oil massage in my hotel. And extras are probably available. Last year I went there a lot and this one very sweet thing let me play with her. I took full advantage and even have sex with her upstairs in one of those horrible common rooms with curtained off areas for privacy. Boy did she ever have the most delectable tits, nice and firm the way I like them and her little pussy tasted just divine. I tongued her and finger fucked her and then penetrated her. The fun usually lasts until another customer shows up and spoils it all. At that point she hurriedly puts her clothes back on and pretends like nothing. I tried at the time to have her join me in my hotel but they did not do outcall. She has a sister as well who looks very hot. I will go back tonight and let you know how it works out.
Cheers and happy mongering.
P.S. Roaming viking is a bit redundant. Aren't all Vikings roaming around? But the "Viking" name was taken so.
Roaming Viking
01-05-16, 11:00
Hi all,
I was wrong about the street address of the place I mentioned in my previous post. It is on 144th street and is called Mango Massage, down from the outdoor market just around the corner from Sisowath Quay. The reason I was mistaken is that their business card incorrectly lists the street address. Hard to believe but anyway. The two sisters from Kompong Speu were not there today. Always my bad luck: "not working today, tomorrow. ".
I might still give them a call later on and see if one or both of the sisters magically reappear.
Last night I went back to Cyrcee and found my lovely from last night, Ada. I took her back to my hotel for some fun and games. It turned out to be OK but nothing to write home about either. She has a beautiful young body with super firm B-sized tits and a nice little Bush and a tight little hole. She shaves just a little bit but enough to leave just a bit too much stub in a few places for my liking. Still, she has a beautifully sculpted little pussy with full pale brown lips that part nicely when my tongue went to work. At any rate I dived right in tongue first and treated her like a princess, licking licked her for a good fifteen minutes but without eliciting any extravagant squirms of pleasure on her part, which was a bit disappointing. I like to think of myself as very good in this department and so I felt a bit hurt actually. Next she gave me a nice uncovered yum yum but did not want CIM. We then had sex in missionary position and I enjoyed the feeling of my by now fully erect member penetrating her tight little teenage pussy. I finished with her jerking and sucking me until I finally shot my load all over her pert tits. She assures me she goes to the doctor every month, for what it is worth, but she sure looks innocent without a lot of mileage. She started at Cyrcee just a month ago and prior to that worked in a hair salon. The French owner was back and we chatted for a bit. Business is slow so I am sure he appreciates the $10 barfine. At least I could take Ada to my hotel and not have to go to this dingy short time hotel across the street. I enjoyed this encounter, the satisfaction of bedding my lady after a long wait. The sex was not GF, too hurried and professional. I really like the GFE with lots of deep kissing and more spontaneous sex. I am an old viking, seventieths and so need a little extra stimulation. My kamagra came through for me, though, and I was able to complete the mission as planned. No GFE here but I still was overall satisfied for $30. Tomorrow I return to Bangkok and Snow White where my ladies take good care of me and make me feel special.
I will keep you posted.
Cheers.
Hi.
I am looking to stay in Phnom Penh for 2 months (July & August).
When I traveled in the past, I would get a 30 day exemption on arrival at the Airport.
I normally stay at the Flamingo Hotel on street 51.
Is it possible to stay 60 days without paying an overstay fee at the airport?
If yes, please supply contact info.
Thanks.
Tom.
NspectHerGadgt
01-05-16, 18:38
Anyway, you are in luck, you can stay 62 days. They go by months not by days: July plus Aug totals 62 days.
Do your regular tourist visa at the airport.
During July get a visa extension. They add one month to your visa.
No overstay fee, but visa extension costs more than the visa at the airport. Do not complain, that is just the way it is.
Visit A to Z Travel at Street 130 and Street 19. They do this for me many times. 3 to 5 days and it is done. Enjoy the rainy season: It is much cooler.
I am looking to stay in Phnom Penh for 2 months (July & August).
When I traveled in the past, I would get a 30 day exemption on arrival at the Airport.
Is it possible to stay 60 days without paying an overstay fee at the airport?
If yes, please supply contact info.
Anyway, you are in luck, you can stay 62 days. They go by months not by days: July plus Aug totals 62 days.
Do your regular tourist visa at the airport.
During July get a visa extension. They add one month to your visa.
No overstay fee, but visa extension costs more than the visa at the airport. Do not complain, that is just the way it is.
Visit A to Z Travel at Street 130 and Street 19. They do this for me many times. 3 to 5 days and it is done. Enjoy the rainy season: It is much cooler.At NspectHerGadgt.
I assume the only documents A to Z Travel requires (from me) is Passport + $$.
Thanks for your help.
Tom.
Hi all,
I plan to go to PP end of January for about 3 or 4 days. (In Thailand now) It's my first time there, so I have some questions.
Is Visa on arrival still working? How much is it?
I read that US $ is the common currency. Can I change Baht or Euro at the airport or in town? Does ATM gives US $?
Can anyone recommend a hotel in walking distance to the action. Girlfriendly. 40 US $ should be the limit.
Thanks in advance.
Hi all,
I plan to go to PP end of January for about 3 or 4 days. (In Thailand now) It's my first time there, so I have some questions.
Is Visa on arrival still working? How much is it?
I read that US $ is the common currency. Can I change Baht or Euro at the airport or in town? Does ATM gives US $?
Can anyone recommend a hotel in walking distance to the action. Girlfriendly. 40 US $ should be the limit.
Thanks in advance.Visa on arrival is still working. 30 dollar + 3 dollar if you don't bring picture.
You get dollar from the ATM. Riel is only for small money.
I can recomand Sarys Guesthouse. http://www.sarysguesthouse.com/ Take the deluxe room. 30 dollar / night. Has a balcony. Many time girls enjoy sit for a small talk at the balcony and look down on street life. Street 130 is in the action. Loco Bar only 10 m away. Many very good bars in walking distance.
Thanks a lot, looks good. Guess I will go there.
2 more questions:
Where do you get the visa? At passport control or is there a special counter?
Because I don't have any US $ with me, is there a bank or money changer before you get the visa?
Thanks a lot again.
Visa on arrival is still working. 30 dollar + 3 dollar if you don't bring picture.
You get dollar from the ATM. Riel is only for small money.
I can recomand Sarys Guesthouse. http://www.sarysguesthouse.com/ Take the deluxe room. 30 dollar / night. Has a balcony. Many time girls enjoy sit for a small talk at the balcony and look down on street life. Street 130 is in the action. Loco Bar only 10 m away. Many very good bars in walking distance.
LifeIsABeach
01-08-16, 05:59
Where do you get the visa? At passport control or is there a special counter?You can get your Visa online from the Cambodian website and take a copy of the visa with you and go straight to the special booths for Visa on Arrival to get your passport stamped. I's a breeze.
You can also use this publication for hotels. http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/ppnight.htm
My girlfriend and I have been traveling for the last 10 years to countries like the Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Panama, China, etc and always enjoy threesome action. She's very attractive and women are always drawn toward her.
We are thinking about visiting Phnom Penh before we travel to Pattaya and Tokyo in the next month for some fun. From reading the forums about Phnom Penh, it looks like the bar girl clubs, that make it easy for us to select a girl to take back to our hotel, do not exist in Phnom Penh.
Besides possibly using online escort services, does anyone have any suggestions? ?
Thanks much for any replies.
You can get your Visa online from the Cambodian website and take a copy of the visa with you and go straight to the special booths for Visa on Arrival to get your passport stamped. I's a breeze.
You can also use this publication for hotels. http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/ppnight.htmLink for e-visa: https://www.evisa.gov.kh/ price: 30 dollar + 7 dollar processing charge.
You can also get Visa on arrival. 30 dollar + 3 dollar if you don't bring picture. You get it from a special counter in the arrival area. You can not make mistake.
My girlfriend and I have been traveling for the last 10 years to countries like the Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Panama, China, etc and always enjoy threesome action. She's very attractive and women are always drawn toward her.
We are thinking about visiting Phnom Penh before we travel to Pattaya and Tokyo in the next month for some fun. From reading the forums about Phnom Penh, it looks like the bar girl clubs, that make it easy for us to select a girl to take back to our hotel, do not exist in Phnom Penh.
Besides possibly using online escort services, does anyone have any suggestions? ?
Thanks much for any replies.There are many girlie bars in Phnom Penh. I think you can find girl there. Maybe take a little time to find the right girl, but that is a part of the game.
Just had another lovely weekend in Phnom Penh. Because I booked late I ended up at Zing hotel next to the central market. I can confirm that this is a girl friendly hotel. They just take the ID of the girl and you will get a call from reception when the girl leaves to check if everything is ok. (which I always think is a nice touch).
I just ended up doing the bars between 104 and 136 and must have been to about 15 of them. Most of them are quite nice. I like the scene in PP. So much more relaxed than Saigon.
One particularly crappy bar was Bar 136 on St 136. I was literally hounded for drinks. They must have asked 7 or 8 times within the first 5 minutes. The girls just stare at you and the only English they speak is "Buy me drink". Needless to say I was gone within half a beer.
On the other end of the spectrum is Honey Pot Bar on St 130. This place has the most comfortable bar stools, the girls are overall good looking with a few gems. They do not hassle you for drinks which is great, so it actually feels like the drinks that you offer are appreciated, not expected. And it seems that at least several of the girls do go out with customers. I managed to take out on two different nights which was great. Bar fine is a bit higher than other bars with $15 on Fri Sat, and $10 the rest of the week. I recommend this place, and will certainly be back soon.
Hello all,
Well, I find myself back in Phnom Penh where I spent a lot time working last year. Staying in Flamingo Hotel, which is just as I remember it. Very nice reception. The girls downstairs are super friendly (and so sexy, wish they were available but they are not) and helpful and so I do not understand some of the negative comments I have read recently about Flamingo. The Internet in my room is working just fine. I always have concerns about my valuables but take precautions.
Hi.
You mention why some people have negative comments regarding the Flaming Hotel.
I have stayed there, usually satisfied, but not my last trip.
Stayed for one month in 2015.
Problems:
Many of the staff have been let go recently. Not really our concern, but service was really down from previous years.
All room phones were disconnected. No reason given but that they will be fixed in 2016. Had women running up to my room all hours of the day w / o being Pre-Notified by staff. Ended up buying a sim / Phone card ($10.00) in the lobby. Having the staff notify me this way.
Rained one day and the roof leaks in my room. Was staying on the 4th floor. Fixed the next day.
Upon arrival, the wall fan wasn't working. The window curtains are looking very old and worn. Don't they pre-screen the rooms before guests arrive?
Free pickup at the airport is no longer their standard FH Van, but a TukTuk. With my 2 luggage bags and minimal seating space, this was not comfortable ride to the Flamingo hotel.
Dining room area has been dismantled. Did you notice boarded up space adjacent to the pool table.
I agree, they have decent internet in the room. I only bring my mobile to Phom Penh. I use their 2 workstations in the lobby. For the month I stayed, one workstation never worked and was not serviced, the other, access was slow 70% of the day. At night (after 8:00 pm) it was decent.
When I checked out, I had to pay extra for 2 bottles water I did not purchase. This was partially my fault, I should have check the stock in the Frig when I arrived. But, it is Housekeeping responsibility to stock the Frig before guest arrive.
One day, a Tourist with bags packed, stormed out the Flamingo with his Cambo girlfriend and her daughter screaming the staff had stolen his electric razor. An expat living there mentioned (to me), he is a heavy drinker and must have misplaced the razor. I really don't know what really happen.
It's not a myth, there are certainly issues at the Flamingo. To pay $25.00-$27.00 per day for a room (discount if monthly) you should expect better service.
Do the lovely hostesses at I Say Bar avail themselves for takeout? So far I am impressed with the lineup. Maybe it's because they seem to be well dressed.Very sorry to be so late in replying. Yes, the girls are available to go with customers. However, unlike in some bars, it is completely the girl's decision whether she wants to go with any particular customer, so it is always best to ask early in the conversation if that is what you have planned. As you have noted, we do encourage the girls to look their best. We're glad you appreciate their efforts.
Came back to Cambodia after 8 yrs and was very disappointed to see that the Martini bar has closed and have reopened a small one just down from the walk about. No girls and not worth going. Phnom Penh bar seen has gone down hill in that time as too many bars have opened and now everyone is spread out and most places don't have enough people in there to have that good vibe. Miss the old days.
Asian Lover Oz
01-25-16, 13:33
Just back from a quick trip to PP. Will write up a more comprehensive report later but here's the exec summary.
Overall Experience: Disappointing.
Plenty of girls available, but very few of what I would call quality girls (my preference is slim and 18-21). Even just watching the everyday girls going past on the street is very average. Nothing like the high percentage of super honeys you see in Vietnam or even Thailand working normal jobs. Of course there are a few exceptions, but those exceptions are very few and far between. Visited at least 10 different bars, massage, Naga disco, tuk tuk provided, street scene, but each time keep wondering, is this all there is?
There are hundreds of Euro backpackers around at the various tourist sites, some them quite tasty. Well at least those not wearing the stupid elephant pants. It seems all the girls with fat asses like to wear those ridiculous pants.
I did have a couple of experiences. Viet takeout from bar and HJ at spa which I will detail separately.
Overall Experience: Disappointing.
Plenty of girls available, but very few of what I would call quality girls (my preference is slim and 18-21).Overall, I'm afraid I have to agree with you. In the old days (2004), a girl who is 25 was considered old. Now these days, the youngest you see is about 25.
Quality at Darlings at Naga Casino is decent, but pricey at $100. Decent, but quality at a good go-go bar in Bangkok is better.
Asian Lover Oz
01-25-16, 15:00
Ventured into a few of the bars from 130 street and surrounds on my first night. Quite shocked at the ages of some of the bar girls -easily approaching 40 and lots of mileage. Was having a drink at the Oscars? Normal bar when I finally saw my kind of girl get off a moto taxi and into the 136 Bar across the street. Slim, long black hair and young. So I made my way over and sat a few seats behind her. The other girls there were gently hassling for drinks but they were quite shockers and I had no interest, so I just asked them where would I find a Viet girl. Bingo!! They point to the girl I had been watching. Up close even more lovely and quite shy at first, her white skin a remarkable contrast to the local Cambodians. She warmed up a bit after I tried my few Viet words on her and told her about my recent travels to Saigon. Turns out she is 25 and already popped a kid, but man you would never know from her body. Normally I wouldn't knowingly take a mummy but since it was my first night and the pickings were slim I took her back to the hotel for short time.
$10 Bar fine and $40 Short time (she wanted $100 I think at the beginning). Short time turned out to be a nice 2-3 hours just chilling in my room and boom boom. Absolutely amazing teen like body and the only sign of childbirth was that she isn't super tight. Would not do BJ even I offered her $1000,so that was disappointing. But since she didn't rush and was very GFE I was overall happy with her. Also she won't do overnights apparently.
Ohana hotel GF friendly. Just leave the ID and they call you when she's leaving.
Asian Lover Oz
01-26-16, 09:14
2nd day in PP was a day to explore the various options outside the bar scene from the previous night. I had a good tuk tuk driver during the morning to visit the S21 horror and then casually after we stopped for lunch I asked if he knew any good massage place without going into specifics. Now my tuk tuk driver is a grandpa with many grandchildren so he's probably not the best guy to be up on the current massage scene, but anyway off we go to the "paradise" massage. From the outside it looks seedy and I thought you devil old grandpa does know what I mean. Into reception and I just blatantly ask if there is any special massage, to which reception shakes her head. I look at the couple of girls there on the couch and decide it's not really worth pursing anyway. So off we go again with grandpa and he stops and makes a phone call to try and get the lowdown on where to go. Eventually we head back along the riverfront towards the Casino and beyond to a massive establishment "Soul Golden City" which is also mentioned in one of the reports of distinction. 4 floors for KTV and the 5th floor is the massage area with fishtank for selection.
At 2 pm in the afternoon there were about 20 average girls in the tank and 2 that I was deciding between. I ended up choosing the one jumping up and down and smiling and keen to be selected. $10 for the massage and everything else is negotiable. The girl I chose was Cambodian, early 20's, ok looking, not fat. Into the nice hotel like room with shower and large bed. As soon as the door closed the hassling started on the price for boom boom. I think she started at $150 if I remember correct and so I started at $20 which was met with an equally disgusted reaction to mine. From there thing deteriorated with me threatening just to leave if she didn't accept below $80. So once I started packing up she agreed on $50. Into the shower and when I come out my tuk tuk driver is now in the room and ready to "help" with negotiations. So I just told him I'm only doing massage so there is no expectation that he need to take a commission. After he leave she tries to say something about $20 which seems to be that she needs to pay him. I didn't budge on the price so then we start with the action. Onto the bed and she starts to give a furiously fast HJ and then goes to get a condom for BJ. I said no boom boom only BJ and no condom, so she keeps going with the dry HJ and keeps just asking for more money non stop. I loose the plot then just get up and get dressed hoping to swap to another girl as I really can't stand this attitude. Such a change from the friendly one in the fishtank. She demands the $40 and I give her $10. She starts making threatening gestures and I have no idea what sort of guys are running this place but I will not budge from $10 as I was only there on bed for 5 minutes. Her voice gets loud and I'm sure people outside can hear. I open my wallet and pull out a few hundred and asks if she happy with that, all the time my anger levels rising. In the end I give her another $5 and she storms out and off to the fishtank no doubt to warm the other girls about the "bad guy".
I had a quick look back at the tank and decided she had already poisoned them so decided to move on.
Later that evening headed to Darling Darling at Naga around 11 pm. Fuck the place was packed, smoky and had way too many guys for my liking. Lots of rich looking Asian dudes with tables and bottles and girls. Stayed for one drink only as it was a bit hard to establish if some of the better looking girls were with the guys or not. There were some clear freelance ladies there at the bar, but with the noise levels, lack of space and not the ideal place to negotiate a good deal so moved on the other nightclub in town called Pontoon. As I was about to enter a tuk tuk driver grabbed me and "warned" me it was too early and no girls were inside. He said he can take me to a place. My 24 hours in PP led me to think it wasn't really such a dangerous place and that it was relatively safe to go with the tuk tuk driver. So go away to a few streets away and park in the dark shadows, ok, now this may not have been a good idea after all. Suddenly some moto comes up from behind but luckily he was just a delivery driver for the girls. Anyway we went through a series of potential girls on different delivery bikes but none piqued my interest as I told him I only want 18-21 and slim. Off we go again, this time to the other end of the riverside towards the bridge and I remember a large clock made of flowers, we slow down and wow there are some street girls along here. The first one was extremely enticing and I agreed on $60 for overnight, but damn she didn't have ID so I refused to take her. Potential issue for sure. We checked out some more and yes the talent was much better than the bars but I beginning to feel very uncomfortable about the whole scene (drugs / robbery / scam). The guy couldn't understand why I wouldn't take these girls as they were pretty good I have to say. In the end I had to be very forceful and just say sorry No lets get out of here. Ok I show you "massage" place. So off we go again back past Naga. It's after midnight by now and it's quite nice to ride around in the tuk tuk with the cool breeze and no traffic. Eventually we stop near some decent looking massage places but they just seem normal massage to me. Then another moto guy (really serious looking pimp. Kinda scary with scar face) turns up with the decent looking girl. Fuck it, I'll just take her for $40 for an hour. So she hops in and we start to go back to the hotel and I ask if she does does "yum yum" (BJ). She shakes her head and I can see she is very reluctant / non respnsive during the whole trip back.
By this time it's after 1 am and my patience / stamina is wearing thin, so when we get to the hotel I just tell the driver that she doesn't do BJ so I'm not interested. Then out of the blue, the damn scary pimp on the bike rides up next to us demanding payment. They speak a bit in Cambodian but by that time I had my $10 ready to give the driver to ensure there was no arguing over how much his fare would be. I quickly paid him the $10 and made a hasty retreat to the safety of the hotel. Once inside I peeked to make sure they had left as I thought the pimp may have been ready to cause some trouble.
In the end all good, but a frustrating night.
If you go to golden soya mall there is a open air bar that has the atms at the back, sit there a bit have a beer,this place is open 24 hrs, most of the girls are not that good but there maybe one that takes your fancy? About 10/20 $.
Short time, they can be very pushy so only get a girl to sit with you that you may like, or got to the walkabout, an never get a tuk tuk to take you any where.
Asian Lover Oz
01-27-16, 13:13
Well after the luckless 2nd day, I played it safe for the 3rd day and took my Viet sweety for a 2nd run. This time she came over without eating first and hence was keen to get out of there and get some food. So not as good as the 1st night.
Throughout my stay had tried a few different massage places to see what would eventuate. Previous poster had some success at Mango so I tried that initially. I always go for the oil massage as you are already naked and has the most chance of leading to something else. The mango girl they assigned wasn't attractive so I just went with the flow. I didn't ask, nor was I offered there. On the way out saw some other girls that might have been more my type. Tried another spa on the main riverfront, very nice girl, dark room but when I whispered for some extra she said no. The final one I had "success" is just opposite the Ohana hotel. Nu Spa. Managed to get a handy but $20 from an unattractive MILF, only did it as I was leaving that day and still a little left over from my blue pill the night before was making him more excited than he would be normally with such a lady. Closed my eyes as her technique wasn't so bad.
That's it for my Cambodian adventures - heading back to Saigon where the girls and food is more to my taste.
If you go to golden soya mall there is a open air bar that has the atms at the back, sit there a bit have a beer,this place is open 24 hrs, most of the girls are not that good but there maybe one that takes your fancy? About 10/20 $.
Short time, they can be very pushy so only get a girl to sit with you that you may like, or got to the walkabout, an never get a tuk tuk to take you any where.Just to bring it a bit into perspective, I was just there last week and took this Viet twice for a negotiated price of 10, which is low, and tipped her another 2 $ for excellent enthusiastic blowing sucking and fucking. I knew her already from before. I don't think they are very pushy but they can effectively block other girls from approaching you. However I have to chime in that the overall quality and eagerness has diminished quite a bit. Also there is a big difference to me with the Cambodian girls as they are more into going with somebody they already have a rapport with which of course is much better for the local expats or repeated visitors who can establish such relations.
Kenny Rogers
02-05-16, 19:48
I have been in PP late Dec / early Jan for a week and another week in late Jan and thought I'd share my experiences.
1) There has been a crackdown on the street girls around Wat Phnom. Tried three of them (10 $ each) but listless and not worth the hassle. BEWARE... if you take them, do NOT let some motodop drop you off at a guesthouse in the nowhere. There are three good guesthouses for 5$ in walking distance
(2 minutes by foot from Wat Phnom).
2) Most bars such as formerly great Happy Man bar are now pretty much deserted, not worth it. Some. Like Loco and the well-known Sharky's seem to do okay, although none is my fav watering hole.
3) The bad news is that Martini (off Monivong) has closed for good in November, and that IS a REAL loss.
4) However, The NEW Martini (which is just a bar) is open just in the street across Walkabout (when you have Walkabout to your right, turn left, right side after 50 meters). Same staff, some of the old girls and no barfines. Bit calm but whoever used to go to old Martini goes there, too, so a good place to meet up.
5) Soraya mall is pretty much a dump. Yeah every now and there you can find a cute looker there, but most of the chicks there are so heavy on Ice that it's no fun doing them.
As for price, yeah you'll get them for 10 or 20 $. But even from a good lay you should not expect much enthusiasm. 30 $ ST and 50 $ LT will get you something real with a nice 3-hole and everything you like. Make sure to ask before, not all girls do it and NEVER EVER accept "up to you".
"Up to you means effectively you CAN send the girl off for 25 $ a whole night, but don't be that cheap. Its neither fair nor will you have a good time, since PP is small and girls talk, too. They will only go with a cheapo if they're really desperate.
6) Speaking of desperation: Again beware. Do not get emotionally involved and stay out of the quarrels the girls have among themselves and with Johns.
There is one girl in her late 20's at Soraya, Sreymom. Hair half length dyed blonde, slim, nice figure, mostly in shabby clothes. She'll do what you want but will come back like a bad penny, so it's best to stay away.
Another girl you should avoid is Lina V. (that's her real name) a / k / a Sreyoun Aihisdiz. She's a looker and the best lay I ever had but her brain is totally smoked out.
She is actually pretty good in manipulating people and I heard a few disturbing stories about people whom she cost dearly (20000 $ upwards, besides Ice she is into gambling and spending whereever and whatever. She'll tell you a lot of BS stories about her baby who is in care and the caretaker she can't pay. Even fooled me for some days. Baby does not exist and she will cry in your ear how much she misses and loves you while getting stoned and hooking up with another guy. I got wise just in time, so also avoid. The pics below are all her, and yeah, she can look different if she wants. If you have the hots for her, do her but do not give her money before you are done, do not believe ANYTHING she says and NEVER, EVER send her to get something for you. She will not return. Right now she will try to keep engagements short because she got a tripper, apparently she offers bareback service. Do I need to say that is a big NO-NO especially in PP?
7) HoD is a good place to hook up with parttime girls. They will usually not go for less than 50 and expect to be treated with some respect, but I met four girls there Da, a voluptous, latin-looking cutie of 21 with a PERFECT body, Sreyroth, a slim, cute 18-year old usually dressed up in white, 171 tall and 36 kg, stunning and Noi, a very sweet and friendly countrygirl from Kandal. Perfect figure but hands rough from garment factory, 22 years and very sweet.
8) Pontoon works either, although I prefer HoD.
9) I have to repeat what was said before: Stay away from letting Tuk-Tuk drivers take you anywhere, unless you know the driver well. Mine is driving me for 5 years and has kept me out of trouble a lot of times.
10) If you can't find anything appealing, consider paying a bit more and go to LE Cyrcee. Still prettiest girls in town, 18 to 25. If you ask the girl to come to your hotel after 1 am, you can avoid the bar fine there.
11) Avoid the girls around independence monument, trouble and not worth the cost.
12) I will be back mid April for a week or so as I am eager to do Da again. She keeps emailing and calling me without being demanding, apparently all she wants is that I take her out again when I am there, so that'll be fun.
13) I have a few Cambodian friends, and one way to have a guaranteed good time there is to treat the girls nice if they deserve it. Most do. Inviting them for dinner or brekkie goes a long way as well as some courtesy. Buying a girl some clothes is advisable only if you want her for longer than just one night. If you are married say so when the girl asks, she will appreciate the honesty. A lot of the part-time hookers would like to get married to a BArang but still do not mind some NSA fun.
Stay safe and have fun, email me if you need some numbers or a reliable driver. I would vouch for my driver any time.
If anyone plans to have fun in PP around mid April, let me know.
Cheers, Kenny.
It's my first time in PP since Feb. Last year. I have been here four nights, coming from 18 nights in Angeles City (Philippines), but have not sample yet. Truth is I've had a slight cold and haven't really felt like it, but now I'm ready. I've noticed that quality in the Sorya Beer Garden is now a waste of time in the day time. It was always a reliable spot for cheap, day time action, but all I've seen this year are old ladies. From reading some recent reports this seems to be the norm these days.
Tonight the plan is to hop the hostess bars, then walk around Sorya before heading to Pontoon. If I don't find anything at the bars or Sorya.
I would say the bars on street 104 not only have the most talent, but also the best atmosphere.
All that being said I like to cut to the chase when mongering, as in "Hello, how much? Hostess bars really aren't my thing and the FLs I've seen so far are either too old and / or dirty looking so I haven't fucked one broad in my 8 days here. I do like being in PP, but the mongering (at this time around) just hasn't been my cup of tea. Really looking forward to Beach Road in Pattaya.
Will have a night in PP next week before north to SR. I am going to work from the last few posts.
Any advice, leads or updates? Is this a quiet season posts seem to have dropped off.
Thanks.
Will have a night in PP next week before north to SR. I am going to work from the last few posts.
Any advice, leads or updates? Is this a quiet season posts seem to have dropped off.
Thanks.You have 17 postings at ISG. In all of them you ask quistions. You have not posted a single report yourself. You must give to get. You do not deserve to get answers to your questions.
Anyway we went through a series of potential girls on different delivery bikes but none piqued my interest as I told him I only want 18-21 and slim. Off we go again, this time to the other end of the riverside towards the bridge and I remember a large clock made of flowers, we slow down and wow there are some street girls along here. The first one was extremely enticing and I agreed on $60 for overnight, but damn she didn't have ID so I refused to take her. Potential issue for sure. We checked out some more and yes the talent was much better than the bars Hi.
In a earlier report, Asia Lover Oz mentioned an area by the Bridge (see above post) where Freelancers are available. Does anyone know the name of area and how would I give the Tuk Tuk driver directions?
Also, what is the best time to go?
Thanks.
TC.
Hi.
In a earlier report, Asia Lover Oz mentioned an area by the Bridge (see above post) where Freelancers are available. Does anyone know the name of area and how would I give the Tuk Tuk driver directions?
Also, what is the best time to go?
Thanks.
TC.Just tell the moto or tuk tuk, lady lady Japan bridge, they all know where to go. When I was in PP last Sep, the Waat Phnom area was dead due to police crack down, but Japan bridge was also quiet, very few young ones, now hope things are back to normal.
Shadow6491
03-05-16, 05:32
Came back to Cambodia after 8 yrs and was very disappointed to see that the Martini bar has closed and have reopened a small one just down from the walk about. No girls and not worth going. Phnom Penh bar seen has gone down hill in that time as too many bars have opened and now everyone is spread out and most places don't have enough people in there to have that good vibe. Miss the old days.Hi Big Owl I see you have only 1 post however did you once post under that name a long time ago? Did you once or still have a special friend?
Hi Big Owl I see you have only 1 post however did you once post under that name a long time ago? Did you once or still have a special friend?Whatever it is, BigOwl is spot on. Phnom Penh is not what it was up tonabout 6-8 years ago. Where nowadays do you see girlie bars packed with people? On my recent trip in January this year I vaguely remember in Street 104 one bar on one night had a good vibe with mix of men and women. But most bars all up to Street 136 only had the occasional customer in or were completely devastated. It was easy to spot, the more girls sitting outside, the less customers, or more often none, were inside.
Shadow6491
03-10-16, 05:22
A lot of people complain about being the only customer in a Hostess bar. I don't mind this, although to be fair I don't normally go alone. So the bar is what we make of it fun wise. All the girls are available this is a plus. Its the bars that are full and no available girls that when we take a look inside that we will reject. Being an expat takes the "must do tonight" factor out of it. The girls also get to know you and dont try the lady drink scam on you unless you are in the mood for this. They know you and will respect you if your nice and fair.
5) Soraya mall is pretty much a dump. Yeah every now and there you can find a cute looker there, but most of the chicks there are so heavy on Ice that it's no fun doing them.
As for price, yeah you'll get them for 10 or 20 $. But even from a good lay you should not expect much enthusiasm. 30 $ ST and 50 $ LT will get you something real with a nice 3-hole and everything you like. Make sure to ask before, not all girls do it and NEVER EVER accept "up to you".
"Up to you means effectively you CAN send the girl off for 25 $ a whole night, but don't be that cheap. Its neither fair nor will you have a good time, since PP is small and girls talk, too. They will only go with a cheapo if they're really desperate.I am here in Phnom Penh for a project, I came for two weeks already, and I am trying to know this city and learn to live here well.
Today I went to Sorya Mall around 6 pm, alone. (Sighed. I have no friends here to go with.).
I had a burger for dinner.
A Vietnam girl came who can speak English, not my type.
She called her friend to come, that 2nd girl is not that black, but she can't speak English.
Instead, she can speak Mandarin, and hopefully I know little.
I bought her a drink, and she ordered a soda.
We chat a little bit, she asked me if I would take her to the hotel, I asked how much, and she said 50ST and 100 LT.
I gave her a smile and said, "enjoy your soda."
She started bullshit me.
Come on, I did homework here before I went.
I looked down and saw a burning mushroom.
Whatever, let her do the job.
Anyway, I am not good at bargain, but I tried.
60 for LT, and she went with me.
"If I have a happy night, I will tip her," I told her that.
I rode a poor moto borrowed from my friend, and took her to my apartment.
I was fooled by her clothes, and she is only A up.
(I thought about a funny song called "Thai Love Song by Namewee." It has English subtitle if you are interested in watching on youtube.).
1st time she was OK. Then, she said the after 2nd run, she wanted to leave and grab something to eat.
In fact, I didn't really pay attention.
After 2nd run, she dressed up and started bullshit me again.
I looked down again, I saw a happy mushroom, and I know it's OK to let go.
I was thinking to give her 20, but you know, bad skill didn't make it.
It ended up that I gave her 30.
She said that she would come back until morning so that she could get the full amount. Balabala.
Sighed. Enough shit for tonight, OK!
She just left 20 minutes ago.
I won't expect her coming back.
At least, it's better than last time.
Before I do the homework studying here, I was charged 50 for one boom boom.
Thanks to Kenny Rogers, Islandboy54, and others.
Your posts really help a lot.
She just left 20 minutes ago.
I won't expect her coming back...In fact, she did come back. At 4 AM.
She kept coughing while sleeping and made me not sleeping well.
Anyway, she came back, so I kept my promise paying her the rest this morning.
Hi all,
It appears that my little Khmer room is opposite the room for 4 local bargirls. I've only managed to see one of them so far, and she's probably an 8, but they all clink clonk around in heels at all sorts of times of the day.
Anyway, has anyone got any experience with getting regular action from the next door neighbor? Seems kinda kinky. Girl comes home from work dressed to the 9's and just knocks on your bedroom door at all hours of the day! My own little porno movie.
What do you reckon an agreed discounted price could be given convenience? After all, my room's more comfortable, and she can fuckoff whenever she likes anyway. Naked actually given we're on the top floor.
In terms of etiquette, shall I try and pick one, or just nail all 4 and rotate.
Any experience or suggestions welcome.
Happy mongering.
AC
I picked up a beautiful girl at a disco last winter in PP. Absolutely gorgeous and the best looking girl I have been with in Asia. After very nice and enthusiastic sex, we rested and was hoping for a second session as it was a short time arrangement.
Then, she started coughing and could not stop. A 1/2 hour later, she sat on the edge of bed still coughing. Finally, she left though I asked her to stay. She said her parents were expecting her to come home. That's why she could not do long time.
It was later that I read that TB is a significant health issue in PP and Cambodia in general. It is highly contagious and the bad air quality and dusty streets in PP can also contribute to this pernicious disease. I never developed any symptoms but it's something to keep in mind whilst in Cambodia; mongering or otherwise.
In fact, she did come back. At 4 AM.
She kept coughing while sleeping and made me not sleeping well.
Anyway, she came back, so I kept my promise paying her the rest this morning.
All 4 if their not girlfriend material or you have limited time in PP.
Hi all,
It appears that my little Khmer room is opposite the room for 4 local bargirls. I've only managed to see one of them so far, and she's probably an 8, but they all clink clonk around in heels at all sorts of times of the day.
Anyway, has anyone got any experience with getting regular action from the next door neighbor? Seems kinda kinky. Girl comes home from work dressed to the 9's and just knocks on your bedroom door at all hours of the day! My own little porno movie.
What do you reckon an agreed discounted price could be given convenience? After all, my room's more comfortable, and she can fuckoff whenever she likes anyway. Naked actually given we're on the top floor.
In terms of etiquette, shall I try and pick one, or just nail all 4 and rotate.
Any experience or suggestions welcome.
Happy mongering.
AC
All 4 if their not girlfriend material or you have limited time in PP.Two bulls standing on a hilltop looking at a herd of cows in the valley. The younger one: lets run down and fuck one.
The older one: first we walk down then we fuck them all.
Whatever it is, BigOwl is spot on. Phnom Penh is not what it was up tonabout 6-8 years ago. Where nowadays do you see girlie bars packed with people? On my recent trip in January this year I vaguely remember in Street 104 one bar on one night had a good vibe with mix of men and women. But most bars all up to Street 136 only had the occasional customer in or were completely devastated. It was easy to spot, the more girls sitting outside, the less customers, or more often none, were inside.I see many here at ISG deploring of Phnom Penh. Of course, this is not as 10-15 years ago. There is nowhere that is. All locations are changing. But there are still many cute girls for a good price. When my girl's mother became ill, I had suddenly 4 days for me into the PP. What better to do than to go out and look for girls.
Day 1: Took a FL girl from Sorya Mall. Only 19 years old, no children. Sweet, totally GFE. LT $ 20.
Day 2: Took a massage on France Street (between Wat Prom and Japanese Bridge). She asked if I wanted extra. I wanted, but only in my room. She was off duty at 11 pm and came to my hotel. 28 years old, one baby but a good body. LT, $ 30.
Day 3: Went to bar in Street 104. Took a 21 year old girl from a bar late at night. Very nice, no children, perfect body. No BF, as the bar was closing. LT $ 40.
Day 4: Went to bar in Street 130. Took a 26 year old girl from Loco my last night alone. Very sweet girl and with a good body. BF $ 15. LT $ 40.
I had 4 days with beautiful women. No one refused to go with me. What more could a man ask for. A total of $ 155 plus drinks and a few lady drinks.
Phnom Penh is a great city. But if you are to PSE Thailand is much better. If you are in to GFE is Cambodia perfect.
Traveler1234
03-31-16, 15:16
Day 4: Went to bar in Street 130. Took a 26 year old girl from Loco my last night alone. Very sweet girl and with a good body. BF $ 15. LT $ 40.That's great catch, I usually pay same for 3 HR ST at Loco, LOL!
S back in Phnom Penh late last year, and will be back in town early next month for 3 weeks, looking forward to some fun.
I didn't bother to post re my travels last year as nothing exceptional to report. Took one enthusiastic but not overly hot girl from Helicopter Bar from St 136 - had a couple of interesting afternoon drinking sessions and interactions with the girls at Butterfly Bar also on St 136, strange place as in the girls all appear to be a bit wired and crazy, or is this just a day time hours thing?
One place I frequented for the first time was Apple Bar on St 172 - a damn fine selection of girls, probably the best I came across however I didn't bar fine any girls from there. There was one super cutie who spoke barely zero English. My moderate Khmer got us by, she was fresh from the province and was really hot. Barely 20, might have to swing by and see how I fare this time? Have any PP regulars been to this place and can you comment? I don't recall reading any reviews about Apple Bar on here before?
So. This leads me to a question if I may, Nay Nay Star having been a mainstay of the scene for many a year, had the on site room which was a bonus, and always a decent selection of girls. Can any PP locals and regulars comment on what the place is like since the re-branding and outside change of image to Valhalla? Still a good selection of girls? Do they still accommodate on site room for playtime??
Looking forward to being back in PP soon.
DingoD.
S back in Phnom Penh late last year, and will be back in town early next month for 3 weeks, looking forward to some fun.
I didn't bother to post re my travels last year as nothing exceptional to report. Took one enthusiastic but not overly hot girl from Helicopter Bar from St 136 - had a couple of interesting afternoon drinking sessions and interactions with the girls at Butterfly Bar also on St 136, strange place as in the girls all appear to be a bit wired and crazy, or is this just a day time hours thing?
One place I frequented for the first time was Apple Bar on St 172 - a damn fine selection of girls, probably the best I came across however I didn't bar fine any girls from there. There was one super cutie who spoke barely zero English. My moderate Khmer got us by, she was fresh from the province and was really hot. Barely 20, might have to swing by and see how I fare this time? Have any PP regulars been to this place and can you comment? I don't recall reading any reviews about Apple Bar on here before?
So. This leads me to a question if I may, Nay Nay Star having been a mainstay of the scene for many a year, had the on site room which was a bonus, and always a decent selection of girls. Can any PP locals and regulars comment on what the place is like since the re-branding and outside change of image to Valhalla? Still a good selection of girls? Do they still accommodate on site room for playtime??
Looking forward to being back in PP soon.
DingoD.In the days that Nay Nay was the lady bartender, and the best looking girl in the bar, it was just an OK bar. Since sold it has gone through renovations and is not openly acting as a guest house with St rooms anymore. And yes, action on site still possible but I got the impression, from last January, that some or all? Of the girls are freelancers as one girl I had a chat with the night before, I met again in a Street 104 bar. All nights it was very quiet but music on conversational level. Not impressed by the quality of the girls at all, so a hit or miss. I would consider this a little sleazy type of bar on the same level as Bunny Bar in Street 104, But the number of girls and looks are better in Bunny Bar where you can also arrange for private use of the backside couches or the upstairs pool area. Just ask and the girl will arrange for you, same as it always have been in Bar 104. Take 2 girls upstairs and they arranged nobody will attend upstairs. So all in all there are better options than Nay Nay Star. I stayed in the hotel at the street corner for a week in January this year.
Howdy troops.
Are the Viet places still alive and well in Toul Kork (sorry if misspelled)?
If not, where is a good area to find the Viet women? Thank you for your help.
That's great catch, I usually pay same for 3 HR ST at Loco, LOL!The 40 dollar is ok for LT. Usually I talk a bit with the girl first. Buy a drink and a ladydrink. Then I ask if she would go with me. If she says yes I tell her what I want and what I would pay her. On this trip to PP I asked 4 girls. All said yes and all accepted the amount as I offered. But I never tried to pay 15 dollar in BF. Is that normal in PP now? Last year I only paid 10 dollar in BF.
But I never tried to pay 15 dollar in BF. Is that normal in PP now? Last year I only paid 10 dollar in BF.Some of the bars on street 130 (Honey Pot, Angry Birds and at least one more I believe) have $15 BF on Fridays and Saturdays.
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