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Bad Boy Billy
03-20-09, 23:31
So what I have decided is to make an outcall from Beijing's craiglist, but I have no idea how it will be.


Looking forward to a report on your experience. I don't travel until June but have been reading the CL ads. Most appear to be a service but some look promising.


Actually I am planning to do the same.

Is there a special ad you are thinking of?

"Mary", "Ada" and "Jojo" sound tempting.

Cheers!Guys - please listen - I hope we can help you here.

This is China - not the States - IMHO - the chances of you getting any 'value for your buck' service from a craiglist providor in China is ZERO.

Yes you mighht get good service - but you will OVERPAY greatly.

The ONLY advice I can give you is - RTFF.

OK I will tone it down a bit - RTF.

Read the forum - Read the forum - Read the forum - Read the forum - Read the forum - all info you will require is here - do the leg work - do yoiur research - the results and benefits will flow.

Zhuren
03-21-09, 02:51
It's good to hear that Regency is in full swing again. It always had delivered solid and delectable service - although not for the budget minded. One pointer: Don't leave your phone number with Tina. She will call you incessantly, she's the mistress of outbound telemarketing.



I went to go check out one of my old favorites, Regency Massage, which is just past Dirty Nellie's Irish Bar (behind the Kepinski Hotel, near Yansha Bride). This is after a long absence from Beijing. Fortunately, the place is still open, although it was difficult to tell since it seems that the whole building is under renovation. Anyway, I walked in (down the stairs), opened the door and talked to the Mamasan.- the same one who has been there for the past couple years. I believe her name is Tina? I was there at 4:30 pm And the quoted price was 1150 RMB. I asked about bringing it down to 800 RMB, and was told that there was 850 RMB service, but it didn't sound like the full service I was looking for. I ended up passing.

For those who don't know, Regency Massage has typically offered a very good service: Real massage with a pretty girl followed by full service. It's always been higher in cost, but in mind, worth it. There hasn't been much on the board about it lately, so I was afraid that it was closed. I'm glad to report that it is very much in business. Just be prepared to pay higher fees, just like before.

Marcusillinois
03-21-09, 06:37
Thanks for the advice BBB, I have a couple of months to keep reading.

Happy hunting!

Zhuren
03-21-09, 17:30
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea confirmed Saturday that it was holding two American journalists and accused the women of "illegally intruding" on its territory.

The two reporters were in the border area with a male cameraman and their guide as part of a reporting assignment on North Korean refugees.

The journalists were headed to the Chinese city of Yanji, across the border from North Korea's far northeastern corner, where they planned to interview women forced by human traffickers to strip for online customers, according to the Rev. Chun Ki-won of the Seoul-based Durihana Mission, a Christian group that helps defectors.

DogRice
03-21-09, 18:47
I went to Regency Massage last Nov around 23:30 on a Saturday. I did not see Mamasan, but a Papasan. The Papasan suggested me to have VIP room w/ about 1500RMB.

I told me that I want to check out the shower/sauna area. In the shower/sauna area, 5-6 guys were standing in front of the locker and there was no one in the shower/sauna area. I was feeling strange since I have never been in a sauna w/o any customer. The Papasan told me that most of the customers are in room. I doubt that.

So, I decided to go to the VIP room and asked for a line-up. The 5 gals are well-dressed (without anything underwear though. , but they are at their mid 20's except one 19. Unfortunately, the 19 ones is a bit heavy but w/ nice big tits. I picked the 19 yrs old.

We were showered together and she gave a very good massage (using her body as well). I like the fact that they used lotion instead of massage oil for the massage. Easy to clean it afterward.

After the massage, she started w/ CBJ (I requested the cover since I am scared w/ bareback on anything.) then got FS w/ a couple of positions. I had a cold at that time, so not much energy to fuck her long. After the FS, we went to take a shower together. Then she massaged me a bit. After that, I was out of there.

I think it is quite expensive compared to the other FS sauna such as the ones at Ma Ja Bo Road (sorry for the PinYin.) Also, their VIP room does not have a full bed. Only massage table. Too narrow for FS.

Anyway, I am currently in USA-monger jail, and due to economy crisis, no business travel. Miss China big time. Thinking to look for a job in China.


I went to go check out one of my old favorites, Regency Massage, which is just past Dirty Nellie's Irish Bar (behind the Kepinski Hotel, near Yansha Bride). This is after a long absence from Beijing. Fortunately, the place is still open, although it was difficult to tell since it seems that the whole building is under renovation. Anyway, I walked in (down the stairs), opened the door and talked to the Mamasan.- the same one who has been there for the past couple years. I believe her name is Tina? I was there at 4:30 pm And the quoted price was 1150 RMB. I asked about bringing it down to 800 RMB, and was told that there was 850 RMB service, but it didn't sound like the full service I was looking for. I ended up passing.

For those who don't know, Regency Massage has typically offered a very good service: Real massage with a pretty girl followed by full service. It's always been higher in cost, but in mind, worth it. There hasn't been much on the board about it lately, so I was afraid that it was closed. I'm glad to report that it is very much in business. Just be prepared to pay higher fees, just like before.

Meiguoguizi
03-23-09, 18:06
over the past few years there is always an older woman in front of the wangfujing grand (note that there are several 'wangfujing' named hotels, this is http://www.wangfujinghotel.com/).
she delivers to the room, is fairly trustworthy, for between 300-500 for short time, depending on your negotiating skills. her inventory is from a ktv several blocks away.
i have turned away several at my door, and she would send a second team.
the hotel is extremely girl friendly, even after 1pm the bellman will wait in front of the elevator with the girl, let you come down and peek and give her the thumbs up or down.
the attached is a 3rd year beijing college student from jiangxi.

Black Shirt
03-24-09, 10:10
Sorry for the off-topic, but where would be a fun/convenient place to watch Premier and Champions League games in Beijing? Is the time difference too incovenient for the bars/clubs?

Will appreciate any information.

Zhuren
03-24-09, 18:09
We decided to do a spot check on M's. We picked the worst night, Monday. Place was lively, 50:50 females to swinging dicks. Consensus was that things are slowly getting back to normal.

We thoroughly investigated the chaperon angle. Turns out, it`s a variation of the "Membership Club" of lore. If and when the security guys approve of a girl, she`s in. Chances are getting better the longer the night progresses. If they don't like her, they pull the chaperon angle. If they really don't like her, they make up something, like "didn't get out of the same taxi." Criteria are unfathomable.Lots of new bargirls, now easy to identify, even for the neophyte: Bargirls carry a 'Maggies' tag.

Zhuren
03-25-09, 00:05
Sorry for the off-topic, but where would be a fun/convenient place to watch Premier and Champions League games in Beijing? Is the time difference too incovenient for the bars/clubs?

Will appreciate any information.

Goose & Duck and The Den appear to be the venues of choice.

Senu
03-25-09, 16:58
Franks is a good place for TV as long as its not on quiz night, like the den food is okay if you like or prefer western and the local beer is a good price. On the subject of beer the den has its happy hour but take care they dont serve you the dregs if you arrive early. Franks is more reliable for the beer and the food quality but the price is slightly higher than the den.....For me it just depends where abouts in town i am.

Intransit
03-26-09, 02:17
Black Shirt,

If it's Champs League you're after, only The Den will be open. They specialize in showing late night/early morning European matches. Just make sure you articulate what it is you're looking for (which match).

Black Shirt
03-27-09, 16:47
Black Shirt,

If it's Champs League you're after, only The Den will be open. They specialize in showing late night/early morning European matches. Just make sure you articulate what it is you're looking for (which match).Great, I'm an Arsenal fan and the season is really getting interesting. Staying with some friends, and they are trying to subscribe to the sports channnels, so looks like it's going to work out. Not going to be too free to monger but heading to Singapore and Bangkok after Beijing, I'll take out my frustrations there.

Intransit
03-28-09, 03:38
Black Shirt,

Gunners for Life, mate! Singapore and Bangkok are far better equipped to handle late-night Champs League, but The Den will certainly do.

Huckleberryfinn
03-29-09, 03:11
Hi guys,

I am not sure if this has been discussed or not, I went through a lot of pages but didnt really seen anything on this.

I am an ABC, I work in the finance industry and I guess I spent at least 7 months a year in Beijing. I speak Mandarin fluently. I am in my late 40s.

I am interested in finding out how to "包养" a mistress in Beijing, particularly a college girl type. A few of my Chinese business associates are definitely doing this but I don't know them well enough to ask.

So any thoughts?I have met and dated four or five women from dateinasia.com ... just bear in mind that they all want to get married yesterday. Three jumped in the sack immediately or on the second date.

Good luck.

Zhuren
03-31-09, 04:13
During several spot checks, one on slow Monday, and one on last Saturday, Maggie's was found reasonably crowded with ample supply.

- A lot of new talent fresh off the train from UB
- Complaints about a lack of demand as the big spenders have left town and are replaced by "moneyless young guys who just come for a drink and a look"
- Even the good looking ones report no transactions for days
- Due to the above, the real stunners have not returned and moved elsewhere (S'pore or HK)
- Admittance policy seems to be relaxing

Worm
03-31-09, 14:41
During several spot checks, one on slow Monday, and one on last Saturday, Maggie's was found reasonably crowded with ample supply.

- A lot of new talent fresh off the train from UB
- Complaints about a lack of demand as the big spenders have left town and are replaced by "moneyless young guys who just come for a drink and a look"
- Even the good looking ones report no transactions for days
- Admittance policy seems to be relaxing

I am starting to think Zhuren is one of the owners of Maggies. The reports seem to be more advertising than reality.

Zhuren
03-31-09, 15:14
I am starting to think Zhuren is one of the owners of Maggies. The reports seem to be more advertising than reality.

I forgot to mention: There were several camera men from major networks freezing their dicks off while lurking in the bushes of Ritan Park.

A Homeland Security officer fingerprinted all patrons of the establishment.

Church groups mobbed taxis of departing customers, shouting "Repent! Repent!"

A fat girl from UB showed up at the unusual hour of 9pm, and when cornered by a 90 Minutes reporter, grinned into the camera and said: "The early bird gets the worm."

Beijing Fox
04-01-09, 00:29
He cannot be an owner. They've cheated him too often on his tab in the past




I am starting to think Zhuren is one of the owners of Maggies. The reports seem to be more advertising than reality.

FrequentTravel
04-01-09, 02:05
@Worm,

I have nothing to contribute about mongering in BJ at the moment (ups, same like you). But Zhuren definitely is a great guy. Actually what he wrote about Maggies seems quite reasonable.

Everything he wrote (apart from the ironic answer) can be confirmed from my point of view. Been there on Thursday two weeks ago. Even being there without really searching, there was talent. Got “picked up” many times by look of the eyes, further negations were suppressed by my girlfriend. (Unfortunately she is not yet into picking up a girl together, Zhuren really is a lucky guy).

Also the stuff about young guys (ok, young is not bad, but referring to young as: “ Wow, did you hear, there is a place where they serve hoes on a table, let´s go there that we can have a look and report something home”) a lot of guys had been there. Hope the situation will change soon (as well as the mind of girlfriend, already talking about the idea and what kind of girls we like)

Sorry for not contributing more, but St. M. definitely is on the way to recover!!

FT

Andy Cheng
04-01-09, 07:40
I'm just back from a short trip to Beijing. Been to Beijing several times and I must say that Shanghai is far far ahead of beijing in terms of pricing and also in terms of Quality of Service.

This time I came across a street that had plenty of BBS (I lost count to be honest)

The QingNianGou Lu on either side of the HePingLi West Rd is full of BBS. All the places offer only HJ and the service varies.

The price varies from 100 to 200 depending upon your negotiation skills. However the service also varies depending upon the price you pay.

I'm happy to be back in Shanghai.

Sammy_T
04-01-09, 08:11
St. M. definitely is on the way to recover!!

FTI agree that Beijing in general is on it's way to recovery, but we should not get our hopes up. My sources tell me that things will be "OK" for the next few weeks, with another crack down occuring around the May holiday. Then things will relax again, until November. This October is the 60th aniversary of the PRC, and word on the street is the goverment plans to crack down at Olympic levels for November and October. Then relax again, before another crack down around Spring Festival...

We are getting back to the normal "cycle" of activity by Beijing's finest, but I think the "peaks" in the security cycle will continue to be higher, and the "valleys" will never go back to 2007 levels.

On the plus side, there are still several girls from the North that pass through Beijing on their way to Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore. I get messages on a weekly basis from girls passing through, looking to earn some traveling money. If you are a senior member passing through Beijing send me a message and I will pass along who I know to be in town.

Happy Hunting!

Sammy

Zhuren
04-01-09, 17:18
He cannot be an owner. They've cheated him too often on his tab in the past

Come to think of it, from what they overcharged Sammy & me in the olden days, the two of us should own a good chunk of the place.

Not that I would want it during the currently iffy situation.

Beijing Fox
04-02-09, 02:10
But you would be a big traffucker and could give interviews to the media telling them about the attrocities Mongolians commit in bed




Come to think of it, from what they overcharged Sammy & me in the olden days, the two of us should own a good chunk of the place.

Not that I would want it during the currently iffy situation.

Zhuren
04-02-09, 06:55
But you would be a big traffucker and could give interviews to the media telling them about the attrocities Mongolians commit in bed

These atrocities are unspeakable.

Zhuren
04-02-09, 07:00
We are getting back to the normal "cycle" of activity by Beijing's finest, but I think the "peaks" in the security cycle will continue to be higher, and the "valleys" will never go back to 2007 levels.


Jeez. Seems like the global meltdown has reached our sport. How about creating a VIX type volatility index for each city?

Bad Boy Billy
04-02-09, 22:16
OK guys clearly you are getting mixed and inconsistent info regarding the current state of P4P action in Beijing.

With this in mind your friend Billy ventured into town last weekend for 36 hours to do a recon run.

Here are my findings and conclusions:

1. Basically Beijing is still NOT WORTH VISITING unless you have a phone full of contact numbers from days past.

2. Maggies - not even a shadow of it's former past. Saturday night - maybe 30 to 40 girls - 80 to 100 guys. Of all the girls there - maybe 3 or 4 doable - the others - forget it. (Clearly my good friend Worm is correct here - no matter how much Maggies shareholders in Zhuren and Sammy try to talk it up - it aint worth the effort). Now also quite a few Chinese in here working as well - 2 Ruskies - ugly as a hat full of busted arseholes.

2. Lido - fucking dead - fucking useless - fucking avoid it - late Sunday night visit - 11.00pm

3. Hollywood - here was the surprise - the Ruskies are back - some really gorgeous ones too - plenty of Chinese - and Mongolians. Downside - the prices - the cunts are now asking RMB1,200 up from the previous standard price of RMB800. Now in Hollywood I saw what I believe may have been the BEST LOOKING Chines w.h.o.r.e I have ever seen - I have seen better looking Chinese women - but this was the best looking Chinese w.h.o.r.e I have ever seen. 6ft 1in tall - long lean body as hard as a rock - what a stunner - but not 1 word of english - RMB1,200 ST - I did not partake. (Sorry NBG - the Movie Star was not in attendance)

4. China World Hotel lobby - not a w.h.o.r.e in sight - most unusual. Was approached by usual run of the mill fuglies in China World Shopping Centre - but as I have said before - I would not fuck the sluts with OAH's dick

Did not get to HRC, Suzy Wongs etc - will be back lat April - further report then.

Funniest thing Billy saw in Beijing this weekend?

The look of sheer joy and happiness on Chi Chi's face as she now can proudly strut around Maggies offering her wares - clearly her new found liberation has made her so happy.

In short - yes visit Beijing if you MUST - if you have a choice - steer clear.

Note: Above are Billy's personal views entirely - offered without fear or favour.

FrequentTravel
04-02-09, 22:32
I agree that Beijing in general is on it's way to recovery, but we should not get our hopes up.

We are getting back to the normal "cycle" of activity by Beijing's finest, but I think the "peaks" in the security cycle will continue to be higher, and the "valleys" will never go back to 2007 levels.

SammyTotal agreement on that. As you quoted I said: "on the way to recover". Actually it was the first time after the Pre-Olympic breakdown that we have been at M. and honestly, I didn’t like it. The atmosphere changed. The pool table is far off in the corner (my favourite place before), I don’t like the new set-up of the bar and most of all I have a problem with this, am I allowed to say "gay", wall painting with the mirrors.

Anyhow, I guess times are changing and we need to adapt. Don’t want to start talking about the times close to workers stadium, before they moved to Ritan Park.

Luckily I am pretty sure/know in some cases, that the girls also adapt. So probably one should just make the best out of the current situation and be thankful for having experienced better times. (As so often in life)

Take care,

FT

FrequentTravel
04-02-09, 22:47
1. Basically Beijing is still NOT WORTH VISITING unless you have a phone full of contact numbers from days past.

2. Maggies - not even a shadow of it's former past. Saturday night - maybe 30 to 40 girls - 80 to 100 guys. Of all the girls there - maybe 3 or 4 doable - the others - forget it. (Clearly my good friend Worm is correct here - no matter how much Maggies shareholders in Zhuren and Sammy try to talk it up - it aint worth the effort). Now also quite a few Chinese in here working as well - 2 Ruskies - ugly as a hat full of busted arseholes.

4. China World Hotel lobby - not a w.h.o.r.e in sight - most unusual. Was approached by usual run of the mill fuglies in China World Shopping Centre - but as I have said before - I would not fuck the sluts with OAH's dick

In short - yes visit Beijing if you MUST - if you have a choice - steer clear.

Note: Above are Billy's personal views entirely - offered without fear or favour.Never intended to offend someone. Regarding Maggies, maybe I picked a lucky day (as you see from my post before, first time after Pre-Olympics) maybe you picked an unlucky day. Even being kind of selective, when we had been there I have seen 4-5 ladies which have been far above "being doable" (maybe my pretensions are just to low).

Can not say much about China World Hotel lobby, but for some reasons I often spend some time on the street between China World and Silk Market in the afternoon. I get approached every time being there, whilst I admit, by girls who are "doable" at best. Probably the real stunners are somewhere else right now.

Again, I think BJ is on the way to recover in a certain way. (See post below)

Take care,

FT

Zhuren
04-03-09, 17:29
Never intended to offend someone. Regarding Maggies, maybe I picked a lucky day (as you see from my post before, first time after Pre-Olympics) maybe you picked an unlucky day. Even being kind of selective, when we had been there I have seen 4-5 ladies which have been far above "being doable" (maybe my pretensions are just to low).


I was with him on Saturday, and he was well taken care of. He just wants to keep the few real good ones for himself. The pointer with the phonebook is a good one, the gals will actually appreciate it when they don't have to venture out.

ImAPlayer
04-03-09, 20:10
Hi guys,

First time poster so please be easy on me. I'm chinese but dont know any chinese and this is my first time in Beijing.

Which area in Beijing should I be staying in as there are many areas and I'm not sure which are the best for a good time sex.

I'll be in Beijing on Friday 10th April for 4 days so if anyone wants to join me for a mongering experience, please PM me.

Bad Boy Billy
04-03-09, 23:38
But Zhuren definitely is a great guy. Are we talking about the same Zhuren here?

Short fat ugly red headed loud mouthed smelly breathed stinky bodied Korean guy?

Bad Boy Billy
04-03-09, 23:43
I was with him on Saturday, and he was well taken care of. He just wants to keep the few real good ones for himself. The pointer with the phonebook is a good one, the gas will actually appreciate it when they don't have to venture out.Actually he WAS NOT 'well taken' care of on Saturday night - Saturday night was a bummer.

IMHO only a handfull of 'doable' girls in Maggies Sat night - OK - maybe 10 to 12 - allright 15 to 20 tops.

Billy was kinda in awe on Saturday night - returning to his beloved Maggies - consuming G & T's like they were Gatorade - meeting 2 STUNNERS before I even got to Maggies and finding out they 'play' together - well it all got a little too much for Billy.

So Billy arranged the 2 STUNNERS for a Sunday aft liason then proceeded to just 'suck in' the Maggies atmosphere for 3 or 4 hours which = 20 to 30 G & T's.

Saw one other STUNNING body Sat night - Baggi - gorgeous hard body - teeth very off-putting though.

Still she passed muster - but Billy hesitated 5 minutes too lone - 'you snooze you lose' in Maggies now - she was whisked away frombeneath my nose - mental note Billy - DO NOT PROCRASTINATE AGAIN.

Too many former 'stars' now seeking greener pastures elsewhere - who can blame them - will Maggies ever get back to reasonable level - time will tell - but in all seriousness - it is not there yet IMHO.

Better to network - if you have Mongol numbers contact them - they will obligeingly put you in contact with their friends acquaintences - it's hard time for all the girls now.

But one thing never changes - the heart and sould of the siasters - their desire to please and service - god Billy love Mongolian girls.

Sebastian My
04-04-09, 04:26
1. Basically Beijing is still NOT WORTH VISITING unless you have a phone full of contact numbers from days past.


While I love Beijing I cannot disagree with this statement - the only exceptions are if you like the normal asia entertainment - KTV's, massage, BBS - but for the more western bars and pick-up place entertainment - its not so good.



3. Hollywood - here was the surprise - the Ruskies are back - some really gorgeous ones too - plenty of Chinese - and Mongolians. Downside - the prices - the cunts are now asking RMB1,200 up from the previous standard price of RMB800.

Very interesting - in the past during certain times of the year the Russian (real Russian) girls did ask for RM1000 - but this only occured when there was some type of problem in Dubai or Europe and the non-china regular Russian girls dropped by. But this is the first time I have every heard of RM1200. I do know times are difficult back in Russia and I guess business is bad in Europe - so perhaps we are getting some new girls with high expectations. If they are model quality this is very possible. (100quid is average in the UK, which use to be RM1200 - not any more however)
While I am not cheap, I won't pay RM1200 unless I know what I am getting - but perhaps I will drop by to check it out as I have not been in Hollywoods for almost 2 months. I have been hanging out at chocolate these days, which has a good band and an entertaining, but cheesy, floor show. Unfortunately minimal action.
Looks like ostrava (Treasure island) closed a few days ago - no great loss.



In short - yes visit Beijing if you MUST - if you have a choice - steer clear.

Totally agree - unless you have that all important list of phone numbers or a few extra RM1200 rolls.

Danton
04-04-09, 04:38
Ths takes the cake. These damn sickos!

Just happened on to a conversation amongst some mongers and one of them was relating a new "Trick" he had just learned and espousing others there to do the same.

Baby Oil. He tells us that if you use baby oil. Convince the gals to give a preliminary hand job, and better still, convince them to use such on themselves for more pleasure/less pain or whatever. That the condom will break at least 50% of the time. And thus allowing him to bare back her. Not a care about her getting pregnant. Or worse. Getting VD from this sicko. He was even relating how wonderful that release/pop of the rubber feels.

I was of two minds about writing this. As I know that there ARE sickos out there who will now use this trick to carry out their sick desires. But at the same time, I am hoping and asking the rest of you to get the word out to your friends, favorite gals, even mommies that there are sickos out there who are using this trick.

I do believe that the large majority of us here on this board are fair minded gentlemen who just happens to enjoy mongering; and thus this post.

Thank you Gents.

SEAJDefinitely worth spreading the word. I suspect many of the girls have no idea about this. I once had an experience where the girl used BO for massage and then produced the condom for sex. I tried to explain that after the BO the latex would degrade and the condom would break up but she thought I was telling her not to use one. In the end I went and thoroughly showered and she then took offence because she thought I was suggesting I needed a shower after a massage from her!

The whole episode went pear shaped and ended up with her storming off and having a screaming fit down the phone to her mama-san in my apartment corridor. Unless it was all a scam just to get paid and get out without really having to do anything, but even I am not that cynical.

Anyway, so much for being well intentioned. But the sad thing is that that episode suggests there will be plenty of girls who through pure ignorance fall victim to scum like the guy SEAJ described.

Sammy_T
04-04-09, 04:52
2. Maggie’s - no matter how much Maggie’s shareholders in Zhuren and Sammy try to talk it up - it ain’t worth the effortI visited Maggie's last night (Saturday), and was also disappointed. On the plus side I saw many of the girls (Mongolian, Chinese, and Russian) that frequented Maggie's in the past. But there were no fresh faces. Just like Billy's visit the crowd was small compared to years past. There must have been 10 20-something guys hanging out just watching the crowd. Not talking to girls, and not drinking beer. WFT? It is not a zoo gentleman!

Made a quick stop at the Lido before heading to Maggie's, and it was the same - so-so crowd, but all older girls (Chinese and Mongolian) that have been working the bar for several years.


meeting 2 STUNNERS before I even got to Maggie’s and finding out they 'play' together - well it all got a little too much for Billy. So Billy arranged the 2 STUNNERS for a Sunday aft liaisonJust curious - how did you meet these stunners? I seem to remember someone saying it was the best twosome he had ever experienced. Humm, best twosome of your life, but you recommend against visiting my fair city. Sounds like you are trying to keep something for yourself :)

Sammy
(the guy who DOES have the all important phone number list)

Zhuren
04-04-09, 07:06
Just curious - how did you meet these stunners? I seem to remember someone saying it was the best twosome he had ever experienced. Humm, best twosome of your life, but you recommend against visiting my fair city. Sounds like you are trying to keep something for yourself :)

The stunners came from your private reserve, Sammy. He's just trying to keep the riffraff away.

Rogeo on the crowd watchers. They were there again on Thursday when we all went to celebrate the return of the one who shall not be named. There were tons of girls (the whole A-clan was in attendance) but no significant turnover.

Zhuren
04-04-09, 07:14
Actually he WAS NOT 'well taken' care of on Saturday night - Saturday night was a bummer.

You did NOT take those 2 cuties home? As a host, I left the morsels for you. Would I have known, I certainly would have taken Billy's cast-offs.

Intransit
04-04-09, 19:33
Are we talking about the same Zhuren here?

Short fat ugly red headed loud mouthed smelly breathed stinky bodied Korean guy?

Zhuren meets none of these criteria.

Bad Boy Billy
04-05-09, 01:45
You did NOT take those 2 cuties home?In the taxi on the way to Maggies they told me they 'play' together - I mean REALLY 'play' together.

So I immediately changed plans and invited them to 'afternoon tea' on Sunday afternoon.

Then I had to find a 'mattress worker' for Saturday night amongst the clan - that was not easy.

Bad Boy Billy
04-05-09, 01:53
Just curious - how did you meet these stunners? You know how I met them - and I am truly indebted - it will not be forgotten.


I seem to remember someone saying it was the best twosome he had ever experienced. Humm, best twosome of your life, but you recommend against visiting my fair city. Sounds like you are trying to keep something for yourself :) Absolutely unequivocally undoubtedly indubitablythey were the best DUPLA I have ever had.

That being said - my warnings about Beijing are IMHO justified.

It aint what it used to be - it may never again be what it used to be.

Hell if you and I cannot get the 'experience' we once could - how will a newbie or semi-newbie get it - that is my point - I am trying to lower / consolidate expectations visitors might have if they have read this thread previously or were here in BJ previously in the 'good ol days'.

Times have changed - Beijing has changed - the experience visitors will get has changed - just do not expect too much.

Bad Boy Billy
04-05-09, 01:57
...........Sammy...........(the guy who DOES have the all important phone number list)And we appreciate that to.

But one thing my friend - we love you NOT for you phone list - we love you FOR the person you are.

I will be back in Beijing Apr 27 for 1 night then hopefully 29 and 30.

Your non-attendance at the next 'Duck meeting' will NOT be tolerated.

Zhuren, Intransit, Sammy - April 30?

No excuses will be accepted - same deal - 2 w.h.o.r.e.s to to each guy - you guys in?

Zhuren
04-05-09, 06:38
In the taxi on the way to Maggies they told me they 'play' together - I mean REALLY 'play' together.

So I immediately changed plans and invited them to 'afternoon tea' on Sunday afternoon.

Then I had to find a 'mattress worker' for Saturday night amongst the clan - that was not easy.

Next time, please keep me apprised of these developments. I have whole household interested in girls that REALLY play together ....

Bad Boy Billy
04-05-09, 07:08
Next time, please keep me apprised of these developments. I have whole household interested in girls that REALLY play together ....You are in Beijing - they are in Beijing - you want their numbers?

Loveasiangirls
04-05-09, 07:16
I have now been living in Beijing for a few months and keep rather "busy" with my freebies". However a friend is visiting from back home next week so I need to freshen up on the P4P situation here. However the Beijing thread has a lot of "noise" and is not always the most informative. My buddy goes to the Viking Club in DR several times a year so he doesn't mind paying up but I don't want him to ruin the market here.
I have been to Maggie once with a friend and we did not like the format. No girl would go out for LT until it was 2am. At that point you are drunk and frankly, I'd rather go to sleep. I also did not find the girls very friendly and the whole point of bargaining down a girl from whom you expect GFE service level sounded counter-intuitive.
My question is, The Den, which is closer to my home, is that pretty much the same modus operandi as Maggie? Any action before midnite?
Secondly, when I am in Shenzhen I have found that the touts around the Crowne Plaza were providing pretty good material for 300rmb. What about those touts around the Sanlitun Bar Street? Anybody experienced them?
Thanks in advance

Zhuren
04-05-09, 08:09
You are in Beijing - they are in Beijing - you want their numbers?

I have them ....

Beijing Canuck
04-05-09, 13:02
Hello Beijing,

Firstly, an introduction is in order. I recently moved to Beijing from Canada, never been to China before other than HK and Macau so still trying to settle in. Got the link to this forum from another site I've been using and have been lurking as a guest for about a month leading up to my arrival. Been in Beijing for about 2 weeks now and wanted to share some of my experiences so here they are starting with the most recent: (Hope it's not too long)

1) After reading the forums, I came by a report from Andreas Wang and others a while back regarding some BBS shops on Chaoyang Bei Lu and Guan Dong Dian Bei Lu. Living relatively close to that area, I decided to check it out this afternoon. I started on the corner on Dong Da Qiao Lu and Chaoyang Bei Lu heading east towards the 3rd Ring Road. The shops are easy enough to spot along the south side of the street with some needing to walk down some stairs to get to. I went into the first one I saw and was quoted 50 Yuan for a HJ and 300 for FS. Knowing there were others along the street, I decided to leave and move on to the next one. I walked into another shop a little further down the road and was quoted the same prices. I’m a Canadian born Chinese and can speak a little Mandarin, but by no means fluent and after a little negotiation, I managed to get FS down to 150. There were 3 girls to choose from at the time, 2 older looking ones and 1 fairly cute 20 year-old. Picked her and got down to business, standard service, CBJ and multiple positions. Finished in missionary and got a quick massage afterwards. Nothing to brag about but not bad for 150 Yuan either. Left and continue my trek towards the 3rd Ring Road. Along the way, I came across a couple more shops however most looked like they only had 1 girl inside. Walking really close to the building, I caught a glimpse of a smoking girl, a 8 or 9 wearing lingerie lying on a couch through one of the windows and was tempted to go in, but decided not to as I wanted to check out the other street as well. Finally got to the 3rd Ring directly across from Hui Jia Lou subway station, turned right and moved onto Guan Dong Dian Bei Lu directly parallel to Chaoyang Bei Lu. I walked along the south side of the street and again, saw several BBS shops. Not sure if it was because today was the weekend, but the smaller street was a lot busier with people selling fruits and veggies than Chaoyang Bei Lu. There were a lot of children running around too so I felt a little uncomfortable checking out the shops. Finally, I snuck into one with 6 girls, some of which were eating instant noodles at the time. The girls ranged from 6 to 7s and negotiated once again for 150 FS. I picked the girl that had the nicest rack, was a little chubby but very enthusiastic in her service. CBJ with missionary, cowgirl and doggy. Having just blown a load earlier, this one took a little bit of time and I was completely drained of energy afterwards. Left and entered the Jiang Ke Long supermarket a little further down the road to buy a cold drink to recharge. Cross to the north side of street and headed back towards the 3rd Ring Road. I then head south to Chaoyang Lu or Chao Wai Da Jie west of 3rd Ring to head home. Along the way, on the north side of Chao Wai Da Jie, there seemed to be a few more BBS shops which I’ll check out next time. Overall, being my first BBS experience in China, it was pretty fun and I definitely would have been lost if not for the information I got from this forum so thank you all for you reports.

2) Earlier this week, I was browsing online on thebeijinger.com website and came across a post from a girl named Mika looking for fun. Face pic was okay so sent her a sms and was quoted 300 for ST and 700 for LT. I’m pretty sure her rates vary depending on time of day with it being cheaper in the afternoons or mornings. Agreed on ST and she was over at my place in about an hour. She told me she’s from Inner Mongolia, 23 and is a little bigger than you would expect judging from her face pic. She also has braces as well. After a quick shower together and some DFK, she started on a pretty decent BBBJ. Good technique and very wet. After a while of that, threw on a condom and she jumped on top for some cowgirl. Switched to missionary and finished from behind. Afterwards, she gave me a pretty decent massage while chit-chatting. Cleaned up with another quick shower together and she was on her way. Overall, a decent GFE outcall. Very friendly as well. I would say around a 7 for both looks and service and a solid 10 for attitude.

3) Last weekend, I was on Skype late at night chatting with some friends back home and decided to use the search function hoping to find a freebie. As luck would have it, began chatting with a 27 year-old named Helen. It was already pretty late so I was pretty direct saying I was looking for a casual no strings meeting right now. She wrote back saying she usually doesn’t do this, but was single right now and also looking for fun. We exchanged pictures and numbers and she was on her way over. She lives near Shuang Jing which isn’t far from me so I told my friends I had to go, took a quick shower and right when I was getting out, she was already ringing on my doorbell. Looks again were average, she looked much better on her pic to be honest but still very doable. Began with some chatting on the couch, which turned into some light touching and light kissing. She was reluctant at first saying that she had never been with a younger guy before (I’m 26) but after getting a little more comfortable, turned into some heavy making out and heavy fondling. Very nice rack and she was impressed with my skill of snapping off her bra with one hand. We eventually moved into the bedroom where I went to dinner on those tits and then going down for some DATY. That turned into a 69 but her BJ skills weren’t that great. A lot of teeth! Put on the cover and went in multiple positions until finally finishing on her titties. Cleaned up in the bathroom, laid in bed and talked for a while before moving on to round 2. After the second round, she fell asleep and I went out to the living room to watch TV. I feel asleep on the couch and she woke me up the next morning when she was leaving. Definitely good for a freebie.

4) Having only arrived in Beijing for a few days, I decided to take the plunge and go with one of the many outcall craigslist posts. Obviously, all the pictures there are fake so I just picked one randomly. I think the number started with 13366******. The post didn’t give a rate so I sent the number a text in English inquiring and the mamasan called me back almost immediately. I spoke to her in English and she quoted me 500 for FS. Having read the forums here, I know you probably won’t get anything lower than 500 on craigslist so I agreed. I told the mamasan that I would like a college student type and petite and about an hour later, the girl arrived. I know that with these craigslist outcalls, it’s usually a hit or miss, but when I opened the door, it felt like I just hit a bottom of the ninth, grand slam homerun to win the game. The girl that came was an easy 9 and only because I never give a 10 in looks because no one is perfect, but she was honestly that close. Very petite, probably about 5"2 and 105 lbs with most of the weight being in her tits. Very young and innocent looking face as well. I was almost hesitant to let her in because I thought there’s no way this girl is 18. She spoke no English but lucky for me, she could understand my subpar Mandarin. Turns out she’s 19 and from Shandong. Took separate showers and started with some light kissing. I laid down on the bed and she began with a BBBJ. The BJ was good although she stop frequently to spit. While she was going down on me, I got her nice and wet playing with her clit and soon after went down for a little DATY. Afterwards, put on the condom and asked her to get on top. Cowgirl was good but it didn’t last long because she complained about getting tired, so I put her on her back and continued with some missionary. She was pretty tight and being pretty excited about my first experience in Beijing, I didn’t last much longer. I pulled out, took off the condom and blew a load on her stomach and tits. This time we showered together to clean up and I asked her for a massage. We went back to the bed where she gave me a pretty weak massage but it gave us a chance to talk. She told me she’s only been in Beijing for about 2 months and really doesn’t like it here. Her hometown is near Weihai and she was planning to move back there pretty soon. Kind of sucks that she’s leaving soon but she did give me her personal number so no need to call mamasan anymore. She also said she has a few friends in Beijing too and could introduce me to them as well. Looks as I already said, an easy 9. Service was standard so a 7 and attitude I would probably rate her an 8.

I hope to contribute more to the forum in the future but I was hoping if some of the more senior members could clear up a few questions I have as well. First, I quite interested in the college students or young office girls that I’ve read about on this forum that hang out either in the bars or on the streets around Wangfujing or in front of hotels. I tend to like the non pros or the semi pros more. But being a Chinese guy myself, they probably assume I’m just a regular local and I haven’t been approached at all. I really don’t want to go around trying to pick up girls in case they’re just regular girls shopping or hanging out with their friends. Any advice on how get them to come to you or how to spot them? Is there a like a secret handshake or secret signal that I need to give them that I just don’t know about? And second, I’m looking forward to checking out all the bars that’s been talked about on here like Maggie’s or the Den, etc in the coming weeks. I guess I’m just wondering how these places and the girls working these places are towards Chinese guys, or guys like me, a Canadian born Chinese. I read somewhere, which I highly have my doubts about that Maggie’s is a foreigners only bar, for men that is. That’s not true is it?

Any advice would be great.

Thanks guys!

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FrequentTravel
04-05-09, 21:25
I read somewhere, which I highly have my doubts about that Maggie’s is a foreigners only bar, for men that is. That’s not true is it? In the past it was difficult for local Chinese guys to get in. Judging from the crowd two weeks ago this has changed.

But as a Canadian born Chinese you will be fine anyways. If you are adressed at the entrance just only speak fluent English, tell them you are from Canada, want to meet some friends inside and so on, and you will be fine.

Take Care,

FT

Bad Boy Billy
04-05-09, 22:59
Hello Beijing,........... I recently moved to Beijing from Canada, ..............(I’m 26) ............I hope to contribute more to the forum in the future ..................I quite interested in the college students or young office girls ................Any advice on how get them ..............I’m looking forward to checking out all the bars that’s been talked about on here like Maggie’s or the Den,..............Any advice would be great.Oh to be 26 again .................sigh.

Welcome to the board Beijing Canuck - without even knowing it - with your first post - you have elevated yourself to LEGEND STATUS.

ALL OTHER newbies please take note - this is how it is done - first you GIVE information to the board - after you have done that you then REQUEST info from others - it's simple.

Beijing Canuch as you state - you are 26 - just relax mate - at your age and being a foreigner over the next few months you will have 1,000's of willing nubile young Chinese girls throwing themselves at you.

Just go about your daily business - follow your normal daily patterns - smile at every pretty little thing you see - say hello in english to every pretty little thing you see - act as much like a Canadian as you can - they will soon pick up the fact that YOU WANT THEM - and believe me my new young legend friend - THEY WILL WANT YOU.

Drop Sammy, Intransit, Zhuren, Beijing Fox, myself, a pm with your phone number - all these guys will be more than happy to take you to a few of the places like The Den, Maggies, Lido etc - just promise one thing - you must throw your cast offs back into the ring for us old fat ugly guys to fight over.

Once again welcome to the thread - this is the best 'first time' post I have ever read in here - I think.

The Tanuki
04-06-09, 00:01
Cowgirl was good but it didn’t last long because she complained about getting tired, so I put her on her back and continued with some missionary.

Awesome post there, BC!! I'd started to forget that anyone was actually getting laid in Beijing these days... :eek:

One additional piece I'd add to Billy's note. It's a great idea to spend $20 and get the PM service here. Not just for PM, but also to help Jackson keep this site afloat.

Back to the note, I'm increasingly seeing girls hop on board for a few humps, then drag me on top because they're "tired." What the fuck is this noise? We pay them and then they want us to do all the work? It's time to lay down for out rights to get our lights fucked out while we watch their tits going up on down, guys! :p

Anyhow, Beijing Canuck, welcome to the team, eh?

Tankuki (stuck in Japan these days)

Hanzaman
04-06-09, 03:35
After reading Fernando Alonso's report on massage NE 3 ring road I went to the mentioned building myself. I’m not in for FS but a good erotic massage is what I’m looking for. So no BBS for me.

It is always hard to find the right places where the massage is with HE.

I tried the Men Only Spa a few times without success. The female masseur cannot be convinced to do more than what is on the menu. The male masseur is not my piece off. So never had a HE there. But the very same building is full off MPs.

I always thought they would be legit once so never went to investigate until FAs report on the MP.

Went to discover the 6th floor. Out of elevator to the left, second door, room 602. Warned by FAs report I immediately asked the 90 minutes option. Everything went well, but definitely no HE! Sh*t. Wrong door? Paid my dues and left the building.

Same floor, other day, the first door, room 601. Take of your shoes, got a lineup of 4-5 girls. No beauties all dressed like legit masseurs. Convinced that nothing will happen again, but was in the mood for a good massage anyway. So took 90 minutes (260 RMB) oil massage. Got in the room, undressed and in a cotton Pajama not even a disposable short. At this point I was quite sure that nothing will happen. But,

She started with the back and after 20 minutes she worked herself down to the legs. She stripped the pajamas till the knee and gave a good massage of the butt and inner tights. Touching my balls every time. Hope came back. After a while she asked to turn over and gave the most perfect HJ. She did this really good, no rush at all. After 20 more minutes I shot my load, she cleaned and would have continued the massage of the legs like if nothing happened. I refused and asked to go to the shower. Dressed up, paid 260 RMB, girl followed till the elevator.

Though she was no beauty at all and she didn’t let me touch her, she had a great technique and the massage was very erotic. Went back a second time for another girl but her technique wasn’t that good but still HE with no extra asking. The 3rd time I took the first girl again. N°15.

There was still more to explore in this building. Same floor, right turn. The end of the floor. I asked immediately for the "oil massage" and was redirected to floor 5, room 505. Nice massage room with shower. The girl (Sishuan) with nice rack, stayed with me will I was showering. So no shame at all in this place. Got a very good massage and a nice HE. Unfortunately the massage was not erotic at all. A good massage without teasing and than a HJ.

Always interested to discover new places, so let me know where to find them.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Gaoshou
04-07-09, 04:34
At last, a China p4p resource for the truly lazy. Via Gawker I have learned that there is now a China p4p Twitter feed. I fear to paste the full link; address is twitter dot com slash China_erotic. (sorry if this was already posted elsewhere).

Most of the links lead to fresh posts on Craigslist. Ads are mainly for Shanghai and Beijing. The reports on Craigslist girls here have been, er, mixed (apart from newcomer phenom Beijing Canuck's recent novel), but some of the ads I clicked thru from Twitter looked very promising. Several of the posts swore the photos were real. Would they really lie about that?

Beijing Canuck
04-07-09, 09:43
Welcome to the board Beijing Canuck - without even knowing it - with your first post - you have elevated yourself to LEGEND STATUS.Thanks for the warm welcome!

I wouldn’t say I’m a legend. From what I’ve seen on this board so far, you, Sammy, Zhuren, Intransit, Beijing Fox just to name a few, have been providing us with great info for quite some time. You guys are the real legends. I still have a lot to catch up on. And besides, it’s quite a lot to live up to, the pressure is on but I hope to bring regular good reports in the future.

Just another update on a BBS, I was out yesterday at a friend’s place near the East 4th Ring on Qing Nian Lu and came by another shop. I did a search for "Qing Nian" and nothing came up so thought I’d write about it. I had caught a glimpse of it in the taxi when I was going to my friend’s place so when I left at night, I took a little walk and stopped by. Went inside and there were 5 girls working at the time. They first quoted me 500 Yuan for FS, negotiated down to 300 but in the end, decided not to partake as none of the girls there particularly appealed to me. Probably could have got them to go a little lower with some more talking. There seems to be a sauna or bathhouse directly beside the place too for those who are interested. I can’t be sure to what it is exactly as I didn’t check it out but it’s a pretty big building and pretty lit up with neon lights. I can’t say I’m not a fan of saunas since I’ve never been, but something about male attendants helping me undress or whatever doesn’t catch my interest. I’ll probably try one out though one of these days and I’ll probably check out that BBS shop next time I’m visiting my friend again. Hopefully they’ll have some better girls there then. For those interested, the place is on Qing Nian Lu between Chaoyang Bei Lu and Yaojiayuan. It’s on the east side of the street, pretty hard to miss.

Bad Boy Billy
04-07-09, 22:38
Thanks for the warm welcome! ...........I wouldn’t say I’m a legend.
Oh yes my friend - 2 reports to your name and already a wealth of info for others to share - you are a LEGEND already.

Have you paid your $19.95 so we can pm meach other?

I will be back in Beijing Apr 27 for 1 night then hoopefully Apr 29 and 30.

PM me your phone number and we can hook up when there.

Haokool
04-08-09, 00:51
I arrived in the PRC summer 2004, left spring 2008, I'll be back in BJ middle of this month.

Might be staying in BJ or moving to another town, however I will be staying in the PRC for another 1 or 2 years, who knows.

While in BJ, I have been driving a car or riding a scooter allowing me to explorer the boonies pass the 5ft. Being off track is my hoby.

Seams that the tourist spots have been keeping you guys busy, I am more into FS BBS, or at my place.

PS. And for the first time I have paid for a membership, hoops)

Englishegypt
04-08-09, 19:39
Hi there,

Only recently discovered this site but interested to get some info for my holidays later this year.

Am 32yo Englishman living in Egypt and will be coming to Beijing in mid may for a weeks vacation and staying in the Emporor hotel (apparently close to the imperial palace)

Don't have a clue where it is or what the area is like, could anyone advise if this hotel is WG friendly or offer any advise on where to go to have some fun with some oriental girls and what are the "market prices" for WG.

Any advise will be great, thanks.

Haokool
04-08-09, 20:57
I like your style, I'd like to hang out with you on the quest of some new BBS.

PM me if you are up to it.

Bad Boy Billy
04-09-09, 03:06
Hi there,

Only recently discovered this site but interested to get some info for my holidays later this year.

Am 32yo Englishman living in Egypt and will be coming to Beijing in mid may for a weeks vacation and staying in the Emporor hotel (apparently close to the imperial palace)

Don't have a clue where it is or what the area is like, could anyone advise if this hotel is WG friendly or offer any advise on where to go to have some fun with some oriental girls and what are the "market prices" for WG.

Any advise will be great, thanks.RTFF RTFF RTFF RTFF RTFF

Marcusillinois
04-09-09, 04:46
As a lurker who has never been to BJ (I travel in early June) you are a wealth of information.

After reading the board I have decided to change my reservations from the Hilton near third ring (since Maggies is no longer a viable option) to the new Hilton near the financial district.

Billy I am still reading and learning. Thanks to all, if anyone needs help with Chicago mongering please let me know. It is all I can provide, for now.

Hanzaman
04-09-09, 07:34
Have to add my yesterdays experience.

Once again I went to Maizidian, the building with the Spa for men, the German butcher.

5th floor, right corridor, room 505, girl N°16 from Dalian.

90 minutes for 240 RMB paid me the so far best erotic massage I got in Beijing. After the shower, which is in the room, she started with a perfect shoulder, back massage which became quite fast a gentle massage which included the butt. She then positioned herself at the end of the massage table, between my legs. Still massaging the back, butt and inner tights. Then she forced me to lift my stomach and massaged my stomach, groin, anus and balls. This was going on for quite some time. Even without direct penis stimulation it was hard not to come immediately. After a while I almost couldn’t hold it and I turned over. There again she was showing her skills. I had the far best ever HJ in my life, and definitely the best I had in Beijing. After I shot my load, she washed me with hot water and soap while I was still on the table. And then, like if nothing happened she continued the massage of my legs. Still massaging my balls, penis, groin…If I would have had more time I’m sure a second shot would have been possible for the same price.

I took my shower, got dressed, paid my dues and left the parlor, certain that this will be my place to be for the next couple of weeks. Hope the girl doesn’t disappear like other good masseurs disappeared after a while.

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Sammy_T
04-09-09, 10:10
As a lurker who has never been to BJ (I travel in early June) you are a wealth of information.

After reading the board I have decided to change my reservations from the Hilton near third ring (since Maggies is no longer a viable option) to the new Hilton near the financial district.

Billy I am still reading and learning. Thanks to all, if anyone needs help with Chicago mongering please let me know. It is all I can provide, for now.
I would recommend you stick with the old Hilton - the financial district is far away from everything.

Just my 2 cents...

FernandoAlonso
04-09-09, 21:22
I would recommend you stick with the old Hilton - the financial district is far away from everything.

Just my 2 cents...Yes, and if there is anything it is pricy.

FernandoAlonso
04-09-09, 21:33
After reading Fernando Alonso's report on massage NE 3 ring road I went to the mentioned building myself. I’m not in for FS but a good erotic massage is what I’m looking for. So no BBS for me.

It is always hard to find the right places where the massage is with HE.

I tried the Men Only Spa a few times without success. The female masseur cannot be convinced to do more than what is on the menu. The male masseur is not my piece off. So never had a HE there. But the very same building is full off MPs.

I always thought they would be legit once so never went to investigate until FAs report on the MP.

Went to discover the 6th floor. Out of elevator to the left, second door, room 602. Warned by FAs report I immediately asked the 90 minutes option. Everything went well, but definitely no HE! Sh*t. Wrong door? Paid my dues and left the building.

Same floor, other day, the first door, room 601. Take of your shoes, got a lineup of 4-5 girls. No beauties all dressed like legit masseurs. Convinced that nothing will happen again, but was in the mood for a good massage anyway. So took 90 minutes (260 RMB) oil massage. Got in the room, undressed and in a cotton Pajama not even a disposable short. At this point I was quite sure that nothing will happen. But,

She started with the back and after 20 minutes she worked herself down to the legs. She stripped the pajamas till the knee and gave a good massage of the butt and inner tights. Touching my balls every time. Hope came back. After a while she asked to turn over and gave the most perfect HJ. She did this really good, no rush at all. After 20 more minutes I shot my load, she cleaned and would have continued the massage of the legs like if nothing happened. I refused and asked to go to the shower. Dressed up, paid 260 RMB, girl followed till the elevator.

Though she was no beauty at all and she didn’t let me touch her, she had a great technique and the massage was very erotic. Went back a second time for another girl but her technique wasn’t that good but still HE with no extra asking. The 3rd time I took the first girl again. N°15.

There was still more to explore in this building. Same floor, right turn. The end of the floor. I asked immediately for the "oil massage" and was redirected to floor 5, room 505. Nice massage room with shower. The girl (Sishuan) with nice rack, stayed with me will I was showering. So no shame at all in this place. Got a very good massage and a nice HE. Unfortunately the massage was not erotic at all. A good massage without teasing and than a HJ.

Always interested to discover new places, so let me know where to find them.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Thanks!

And very well done for a single digit report member. Wealth of info, not just complaining, even things did not all work out as described by me! Actually at the moment there are a few new places opened in that building and business is very tough, so I am happy to hear more happy places come up. In general it pretty much comes down to the girls, there are a few owners there who encourage the happy ending but it is not the rule. Even worse, some shops cannot get younger girls because of this, the good looking ones quickly figure out how to make more money for not so hard work.

If you can PM would like to discuss offline one of these places there but cannot put that in the open.

FA

FernandoAlonso
04-09-09, 21:42
Always interested to discover new places, so let me know where to find them.If you look new places, try Wangjing new town!!! much cheaper and if you do call out more is possible.

FA

Haokool
04-10-09, 09:08
The with Wangjing is that you need a car, taxi. And it is not always evident to find a taxi on your way back. Depending of the hour.

Pekshy
04-10-09, 18:14
Hi,

Wanted to try this sauna (was actually easy to find as described well) but was rejected as Í'm foreigner. I don't speak Chinese. Anybody have similar experience or can recomend similar place accepting 'long nose'?


I checked the Anli Lu sauna as covered earlier. I wouldn’t have if I had read the post about paying in advance being because you are a foreigner, but anyway…

Overall Venue – run down, and in dire need of redecoration.

Shower area – zero privacy. I know this does not matter to local punters, but to me a simple cubicle or partition is much appreciated.

Price - RMB800 for 60 min. I wonder if locals get RMB600 as per the first poster on this place, and they then decided to increase it for foreigners.

Payment - in advance. I only accepted this after first seeing the room, and they brought a girl in. She gave me a big smile and further smiles when I asked her name and where she came from (Sichuan), at this point I knew I was going to get OK service so I paid up. It is also very unusual that payment is made to the fixer in the changing room and not at reception.

The Girl:

Looks 8/10
Body 8/10 (tall for Sichuanese, ok breasts, slim)

Attitude: 7.5/10. More friendly than average, joked a bit and smiled a lot, but overdid the “you are very handsome” and “your dick is so big” crap. Also a bit too much fake moaning. But anyway she was pleasant and obliging.

Despite the posts here I also got the impression they still don’t get many foreigners. They fluffed around at reception when I went in (perhaps thinking foreigners can’t speak Chinese, which suggests they have not met many), and the other punters seemed very surprised I was there.

Will I return? I doubt it. For RMB800 in Shanghai I would expect 90 min and a much nicer place. I’d put the worth of this place at around RMB500.

If anyone else does want to try, it is not far from Datun Lu line 5 metro station. From there you need to walk one block north and one block west to get to the Marco Polo hotel intersection.

FernandoAlonso
04-10-09, 21:44
The with Wangjing is that you need a car, taxi. And it is not always evident to find a taxi on your way back. Depending of the hour.Never had trouble getting a taxi there, also the girls come to you for the some money you pay for the taxi yourself, also a couple of great restaurants and a walmart nearby. I once spotted a BBS near IKEA but need to check this out. Sure you should stay in the Northeast, cab fare from say Kunlun RMB 20, so for 200 RMB you get the fun at your hotel/home.

Not many options for that price in Beijing

FA

Intransit
04-11-09, 00:40
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/10/content_11159700.htm

BEIJING, April 9 (Xinhua) -- The Ministry of Public Security announced a national action against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) of women and children here Thursday, in wake of increasing incidences of these cases in China.

"The country has seen an increasing incidence of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) of women and children recently, though the police have continued fighting such crimes for years," said Zhang Xinfeng, vice minister of public security at a meeting.

The nationwide crackdown will last from April to December this year, he said.

Police must carefully investigate residents to identify women and children victims and rescue them, he said.

They were also asked to collect information about possible victims and tightly follow leads, he said.

The police will also crack down upon those who seduce or force children to beg on streets or commit crimes, especially those masterminding such gangs, he added.

Zhuren
04-11-09, 09:51
At the risk of being called a Maggie's shill by invertebrate animals that have a long, soft body and no legs, here the latest sitrep:

Maggie's is slowly coming back to its former self. Previous management is - after a government-sponsored vacation - back on the job. The place was full last Friday night, both with the male and female gender.

Recent developments:

- The pool area is open. Those who want to bear the risk of being devastated by pool sharks form the North are welcome to take a cue.

- Maggies nubies formerly had a hard time discerning bargirls (off limits for after action, and there to entice you to spend on drinks and THEN give them a tip for their troubles) from, well, other female guests. This has been solved. A bargirl has a "Maggie's" pin on her blouse. Suchly tagged females are there for the aforementioned purpose only. Supply is large and competition is fierce - which not necessarily results in lower prices for you.

- The former practice of bill padding appears to have stopped. Someone seems to have gotten the memo.

- Admittance policy for the Northern Sisters remains to be unfathomable. Some get in without trouble, some don't. Escorted in by a male guest, they usually (but not always) get in. If the male is a regular and the female is halfway presentable, she's in. If a girl calls from outside for male assistance, it's hit and miss, and depends on the standing of the white knight with the black clad security squad. Detailed research to establish criteria for admittance so far has proven unsuccessful. Ambiguity rules.

- Beauty being in the eyes of the beholder, I shall abstain from rating the supply. It pretty much resembles the old ensemble, with a lack of the "Superstars" who went to greener pastures. Grizzled veterans see that as a plus, because those Saturday-night-wonders had upset the whole market.

- While the UB crowd prevails, citizens of other countries are filtering back. Some Russian girls seem to be back, I don't like them due to a traumatic past experience with a certain female of Russian extraction, hence no comments from this side. Well, I can't help myself: The two blondes in attendance yesterday night were butt ugly - ok, in my traumatized eyes. FLASH: Some Chinese WGs were spotted.

Simbad99
04-11-09, 12:06
I fully support Zhuren's status. Attendance was rather poor on Wednesday, quantity as well as quality.

Then Thursday was much better, even if young fresh talents are missing. The Norther sisters are in majority a bit senior, doesn't mean faded at all. Yesterday M. Was really booming with even some more new girls.

About helping the girls to enter, there is no predictable rules: I was rejected by security on Wed. When it was smooth and easy to get to lovelies in on Thu?

All in all, nice to see revival confirmed at our preferred place.

BTW I have spotted 6-8 Northern sisters at Hollywood on Thu. In such a dark cave, no that easy to quote the quality, at least 2 were really nice looking. They said they are not moving to Maggies later: seems a different hord?

Russian were as usual only hunting for CN customers. One or two stunners in the blonde department.

Let see what will be on offer tonight.

Simbad

Marcusillinois
04-11-09, 23:02
I was incorrect about the new Hilton's location, it is actually at 8 Wangfujing East Street. I would post the Yahoo maps link but did not want to violate the rules but it is near the Palace. I am using hotel points for the stay so the room is free, more to spend on BBS and spa "services".

In comparing prior posts to the newest spa posts it appears that prices have gone down (pun intended) perhaps the economic problems have had the same effect as in the Chicago area. I am paying less for WG's here than a year ago.

I work in the financial/accounting field so I will try to do a cost benefit analysis comparing BBS to spa visits when I return.

Thanks again for everything.

Hanzaman
04-14-09, 06:16
If you look new places, try Wangjing new town!!! much cheaper and if you do call out more is possible.

FANo outcall for me.

Easy to find the massage places? I'll check them out in the next couple of weeks.

Thank you fernando

Bad Boy Billy
04-15-09, 05:41
BTW I have spotted 6-8 Northern sisters at Hollywood on Thu. In such a dark cave, no that easy to quote the quality, at least 2 were really nice looking. They said they are not moving to Maggies later: seems a different hord? Thanks for your report Simbad.

Indeed there has always been Mongols working Hollywood even at it's peak.

Billy is sure he knows the '2 really nice looking' ones you refer too - I think I spent some 'quality' time with them last visit.

They will be there to greet me on my return Apr 27.

They told me they prefer Hollywood to Maggies - which one of them did frequent before it's closure - solely because of the time involved.

The Chinese choose without conversation - deed is over in 15 minutes tops. Not like western guys trying to shmooze, impress, charm them and look for discounts - then fuck them as long as possible.

To them RMB800 once ot twice quickly allows them to go home and sleep rather than compete with all the other girls at Maggies.

To ply their trade at Hollywood they pay RMB1,200 / month - gives them access every night if they want.

Bad Boy Billy
04-15-09, 05:45
Billy will be back in Beijing Apr 27 for 2 nights - I think - then from Apr 30 til May 3 - I think.

I need to inspect some product and our Chinese manufacturers keep shifting the goal posts - the fuckers.

OK who is in town at that time?

And to OAH, Sammy, Zhuren, Intransit - no need for yoiur half funny jokes like "nah sorry Billy - your in town - I'm outta town type stuff".

Billy is thinking another DUCK dinner? Who is in?

Sammy - time we did something a little more risque - let's talk.

House007
04-15-09, 12:28
Hi All,

I know this is kind of short notice, but I couldn't help it. I'll be in BJ from Friday 17 to Sunday 19 - 2 nights Friday and Sat'day.

Is anyone in town who'd be going out on those 2 nights and I could tag along, hopefully looking for some action?

Could anyone put me in touch with one of the sisters - perhaps not possible as I am still unknown to the BJ-crowd. I'd love to find some GFE for the night.
Haven't decided where I'll stay, but will work that out tonight.

I just don't want to go by myself to those places and then feel bored.

So, I'm up to any suggestion - thanks

Feel free to drop me a pm.
Cheers
House007

MegaPoint
04-15-09, 15:12
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/10/content_11159700.htm

BEIJING, April 9 (Xinhua) -- The Ministry of Public Security announced a national action against [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) of women and children here Thursday, in wake of increasing incidences of these cases in China.

"The country has seen an increasing incidence of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) of women and children recently, though the police have continued fighting such crimes for years," said Zhang Xinfeng, vice minister of public security at a meeting.

The nationwide crackdown will last from April to December this year, he said.

Police must carefully investigate residents to identify women and children victims and rescue them, he said.

They were also asked to collect information about possible victims and tightly follow leads, he said.

The police will also crack down upon those who seduce or force children to beg on streets or commit crimes, especially those masterminding such gangs, he added.

As Bill Cosby used to say, "RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!"

Member #3421
04-15-09, 22:50
Thanks for your report Simbad.

Indeed there has always been Mongols working Hollywood even at it's peak.

Billy is sure he knows the '2 really nice looking' ones you refer too - I think I spent some 'quality' time with them last visit.

They will be there to greet me on my return Apr 27.

They told me they prefer Hollywood to Maggies - which one of them did frequent before it's closure - solely because of the time involved.

The Chinese choose without conversation - deed is over in 15 minutes tops. Not like western guys trying to shmooze, impress, charm them and look for discounts - then fuck them as long as possible.

To them RMB800 once ot twice quickly allows them to go home and sleep rather than compete with all the other girls at Maggies.

To ply their trade at Hollywood they pay RMB1,200 / month - gives them access every night if they want.

All I gotta ask is, "seen the movie star lately?" Check your PMs, BBB.

Bad Boy Billy
04-15-09, 23:02
All I gotta ask is, "seen the movie star lately?" Check your PMs, BBB.Guys beware - Njtraveller has returned.

Some of you knew him under a different name - BEWARE.

J/K mate - no she was not in Hollywood when I was there 3 weeks ago - but damn there were some hotter ones there.

Member #3421
04-16-09, 00:05
Guys beware - Njtraveller has returned.

Some of you knew him under a different name - BEWARE.

J/K mate - no she was not in Hollywood when I was there 3 weeks ago - but damn there were some hotter ones there.

Ah, she always liked you better than me. But this is good news, indeed. I've been worrying about things, lurking, plotting my return.

Bad Boy Billy
04-16-09, 01:26
Ah, she always liked you better than me.Understandable my friend - have you seen you and I side by side?

Member #3421
04-16-09, 03:59
Understandable my friend - have you seen you and I side by side?

All I can do is try to get by with what little I have, and learn from the best. Remember: you saw her first. A tough act for me to follow, and then, right in the middle, to have her moan, "Billy, you Bad Boy!"

Sure, I made that last part up. But you do have an eye for talent!

Here's to a long summer of fun.

Biandoe
04-17-09, 04:37
Went to M's last night. Saw about a dozen WG's I would call 6's to 9's. The inside is very nice, everything looks new. A slow crowd until 10:30. Had a great time and will be back for more.

House007
04-17-09, 11:24
Went to M's last night. Saw about a dozen WG's I would call 6's to 9's. The inside is very nice, everything looks new. A slow crowd until 10:30. Had a great time and will be back for more.

Anyone going there tomorrow (Saturday) night? I had planned to check it out tonight (first timer) but I got some work to do and will stay in I guess.

WGs were Chinese or Mongolians?

Worm
04-17-09, 14:40
I had quite the experience at a favorite place the other day.

The Romantic Rabbit is located in an apartment block called Van Palace located just north of the Kerry Centre Hotel. The place is on the 15th floor and is marked with RRR on the door.

I have been a couple times. It is a nice upscale apartment - expat style. They take you into a large bedroom with a king sized bed and bathroom.

They seem to have a couple of girls working there. I was entertained by a very pretty girl called Helen, from Sichuan. In my view the perfect female - pretty face, medium height, slim build and natural B cups.

I showered and stripped down on the bed. She came in and started an excellent oil massage on my back. Not long and my hands began to wander on her firm, shapely legs. She stopped the massage, kissed me, and excused herself to get a condom.

She come back in and strips down and joins me on the bed. A little DFK and then she starts to work over my body with her tongue. BBBJ job commences, and I slide a finger in and all hell breaks loose.

She pulls my hand out and shoves it up the next hole. I twist my hand around and get my thumb in the first hole. She is going crazy. It is interesting to feel your fingers touch like that - never done that before. A few minutes of this and she has torn the cover off the condom and is wrapping the worm. I pull her on top of me and the worm crawls in hole no 1. That is not what she is looking for. She lifts up and says let me do it, and tries to steer my friend into hole No. 2 Now, the worm is getting up there in years, but it is plenty stiff tonight for this deed, but the hole is very tight. She adds some lube and in it slides. OMG, this is different. I slide a finger back in hole No. 1 and can feel myself - wow!

I don't last long in this state and as the worm crawls out, she is most unhappy. She grabs my hand and shoves it back up hole No. 2 and gets me to pound it like a jackhammer. She finally explodes all over the bed and collapses. We talk for a while, but frankly, I am a bit intimidated by the sex so I shower and leave. I paid her 1200, which she seemed happy with.

House007
04-17-09, 16:12
... I paid her 1200, which she seemed happy with.

What was the original quote if I may ask?
1200 seems quite a lot for short time despite you obviously having had the time of your life ;-)
Almost sounds too good to be true as most Chinese girls I have met are absolutely paranoid even when just playing around with hole No.2 let alone enter there ...

Well, good for you after all ...

Cheers

Bad Boy Billy
04-17-09, 23:51
I had quite the experience at a favorite place the other day..........The Romantic Rabbit is located in an apartment block called Van Palace located just north of the Kerry Centre Hotel. The place is on the 15th floor and is marked with RRR on the door.
Did you pre-book or just show up?

Zhuren
04-18-09, 08:56
The circuit is abuzz with talk that the admission "policy" at St. Margarete's is suddenly rigorously enforced. Male patrons must BYOM - bring your own Mongolian. For a girl: No guy, no entry. Received reports that in recent days M's was near empty. No wonder, BYOM defeats the whole purpose. No need to take her there, just take her straight home. Rationale behind the sudden rigor unknown. Friday and Saturday, attendance was reported as higher, with the same restrictions in place.

Zhuren
04-18-09, 11:53
Bad boy:

I was there last time and will be there this time - unless my suppliers are in need of rectal impact at the time of your arrival. Pls be aware of the May festivities ....





Billy will be back in Beijing Apr 27 for 2 nights - I think - then from Apr 30 til May 3 - I think.

I need to inspect some product and our Chinese manufacturers keep shifting the goal posts - the fuckers.

OK who is in town at that time?

And to OAH, Sammy, Zhuren, Intransit - no need for yoiur half funny jokes like "nah sorry Billy - your in town - I'm outta town type stuff".

Billy is thinking another DUCK dinner? Who is in?

Sammy - time we did something a little more risque - let's talk.

Bad Boy Billy
04-19-09, 00:48
Pls be aware of the May festivities ....Yes mate I am CRITICALLY aware of the May day festivities - indeed I was planning a 2-3 day sojourn to CP - but alas - May day vacation in HK also means CP on Apr 30, May 1 and 2 will be overun - so looks like I will have to stay in BJ.

Intransit
04-19-09, 18:54
Zhuren,

Was at Maggie's Saturday night -- big crowd, male and female, many of the Maggie's old-timers there. One woman told me it was now easier to get in than had been at the past, and Gary said same -- fewer if any restrictions. Attendance seemed to support that.

Belicoso
04-19-09, 21:25
Stayed at the Hilton Beijing Chaoyang for a couple of nights last weekend. Did not get a chance to monger due to the company I was with. However, got a couple of excellent legit deep tissue massages at the Chinese Massage place that is right next to the Hilton (25 meters behind it). They are open till 2 AM.

They appear to be pretty legit but I am not sure if any special services are offered later at night (I went during the day). Discounted rates (just ask for specials or discount) were 260RMB. Girls were all very young (18. 22) and mostly in the 4s. 6s (on a 10-scale) with a couple of 7s. The hostesses were hot though!

Highly recommended if you are looking for a legit, deep tissue (or not), cheap massage if you are staying at the Hilton Chaoyang or Kempinski.

Belicoso
04-19-09, 21:41
Bar One. Behind Hilton Chaoyang (walk out of the Hilton, make a left and walk 200 meters) and across the street from the South Korean Embassy has some WGs. They are open till 3 AM, have a good selection of whiskey (blended & single malt), are cigar friendly and have a pool table.

I was there for a drink last Friday and Saturday nights and there were 8. 10 WGs both nights. Most were 5s. 6s (on a scale of 10) but there were a couple of 8s. A few WGs walk by the Bar as well, as they circle the block around Hilton. On my walk back to the Hilton at 2 AM on Sat, I saw a 9 walk by Bar One to the Hilton. Just could not "inquire"/monger given the company I was with.

Straydog Jr
04-20-09, 03:52
The other day I strolled through the maze of the Ya Bao Lu Russian Market area and came across "Golden Haven" Sauna (tel 8563 8988) and had a quick look inside but no time for any more. The Place looks run down from the outside but the inside is in decent condition. FS cost 800 / 90 min. The line up of four was nice. The girls were in their mid twenties, relatively tall and smiling. Assuming that the Golden Haven is frequented by many Russians, they might refrain from the usual laowai treatment. See Golden Haven Biz Card (if I can sort out the proxy connection)

Wan Bao Sauna, north of Yang Qiao on south third ring was open a few weeks back. See previous report for detailed address.

Eaglestar
04-20-09, 04:09
Bar One. Behind Hilton Chaoyang (walk out of the Hilton, make a left and walk 200 meters) and across the street from the South Korean Embassy has some WGs. They are open till 3 AM, have a good selection of whiskey (blended & single malt), are cigar friendly and have a pool table.

I was there for a drink last Friday and Saturday nights and there were 8. 10 WGs both nights. Most were 5s. 6s (on a scale of 10) but there were a couple of 8s. A few WGs walk by the Bar as well, as they circle the block around Hilton. On my walk back to the Hilton at 2 AM on Sat, I saw a 9 walk by Bar One to the Hilton. Just could not "inquire"/monger given the company I was with.

When I lived in Beijing about 6-8 years ago, Bar One was known as Maggies 2. Girls there were not available for take out, only for chat, dancing and playing pool (some were damn good pool players also).

I was able to charm a few of them into seeing me on their days off and in fact had a nice 20 y/o for a freebie for about a year.

This all may have changed, given the time lag, so some of our Beijing Bros might want to up date this info.

ES

Dumamay
04-20-09, 09:21
In such a case (I face it immediately if nearby has no bbs), you have to rely on taxi drivers. Tell him you want xiaojie. (in case your hotel has no massage service)

Be careful, don't rely on young taxi driver, if you get a young guy you can ignore him. Older cabbies will help. Also, do not let some taxi call you, by honking or stopping by. You wave a taxi, if that is an older man, go on!

I got this lesson from jinan.

When on taxi, insist to go to BBS (xi toufa, or how to call this in Chinese, please help, senior members). Do not follow him to enter a KTV, your trouble will start there. And DO NOT bring more than 500rmb on your body. Do not bring any ID, passport. Hotel is safe to leave all these behind, since in there they don't care about your passport. Money they will grab it, so best you have atm card safer.

By the way, you can try to tell the taxi driver to bring you to a sauna (NOT KTV). Saunna is where you pay entrance fee, put all your stuff into a locker, and have pyjima on.

Never go into KTV and get led into a karaoke room waiting for a girl, you (me too) will be robbed and attacked.


I am stuck in Tianjin and it is so boring that nothing is going on so far. Even the Tianjin thread seems dead now since it's blocked here (I am browsing this site via proxy). I don't feel comfortable asking about mongering with Chinese fellow mates around and even though I have been around clubs, seems like it's a tough luck. Maybe because I am Asian but even though I want to spend money, am not getting it.

So what I have decided is to make an outcall from Beijing's craiglist, but I have no idea how it will be. I know Beijing is near from here but I haven't been there so got no idea.

Advices & suggestions will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

NT

Dumamay
04-20-09, 09:28
The internet is only useful to collect information beforehand for your targets. Once you are there, you must get off the computer (I know this feelins, I did the same since it is so convenient, but indeed it will spend all your prime time and energy too) Just hop on a bus if still early, then sit down and watch come in front of your eyes you may spot a bbs or a row of them on the way. Then get off the bus right away and go to bbs, then back to hotel by taxi or same bus.

This way works from 7pm to 11pm, bus won't run after that in cn.

Make sure you wear your usa clothes. That will stand you out from the crowd, and chances are you will hit a hot girl on the bus. Plenty of them.

Just speak to them asking direction.

This is easy to say but hard to do, since I fly too fast.

And it is all by chance, you got to go fishing. English corners will do if you know where they are in a city, but this info must need time to spot out. Where can we find english corner guide on net, please help to tell if any hint, brothers?


I am stuck in Tianjin and it is so boring that nothing is going on so far. Even the Tianjin thread seems dead now since it's blocked here (I am browsing this site via proxy). I don't feel comfortable asking about mongering with Chinese fellow mates around and even though I have been around clubs, seems like it's a tough luck. Maybe because I am Asian but even though I want to spend money, am not getting it.

So what I have decided is to make an outcall from Beijing's craiglist, but I have no idea how it will be. I know Beijing is near from here but I haven't been there so got no idea.

Advices & suggestions will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

NT

Sammy_T
04-20-09, 09:53
When I lived in Beijing about 6-8 years ago, Bar One was known as Maggies 2. Girls there were not available for take out, only for chat, dancing and playing pool (some were damn good pool players also).

I was able to charm a few of them into seeing me on their days off and in fact had a nice 20 y/o for a freebie for about a year.

This all may have changed, given the time lag, so some of our Beijing Bros might want to up date this info.

ESAs EagleStar points out, most of the girls working at Bar One are there just to sell you drinks. This summer when Maggie's shut down some of the Mongolian girls started working out of Bar One, changing the dynamic. Now that Maggie's is back open I assume most of them have left Bar One, but it would not surprise me if a few still poped in when making the rounds. If you want to confirm if she will go with you simply ask her where she is from - if it is China than odds are she will not go home with you.

Sammy

Sammy_T
04-20-09, 11:24
First, I want to say thanks to all of the newcomers who have been posting reports. It is the exchange of information that makes this forum great, especially when times are tough!

It has been a long time since I have written one of my “beginner guides to Beijing”. I have been hoping that things would return to “normal”, ie – pre-Olympic, but it does not appear that that is going to happen anytime soon. The observations below primarily apply to Beijing, but I think they can generally be applied to any city in China. There are hotels, bars, KTVs, and Saunas everywhere, it is just a matter of finding them. I will only comment on the pay-to-play (P2P) business in this post as I feel the “freebie” scene actually costs you more in the long run both financially and emotionally. I encourage other senior members to comment/revise my observations below – I certainly do not claim to know everything about the scene in Beijing, but want to throw out some general information. I have decided not to provide any specific locations as I do not want to point Law Enforcement Officials to any of the remaining venues, but I am happy to share details via PM.

Mongers in China can be divided into 2 general categories – the visitor, and the resident. While this is a very obvious observation, it should be considered when you read the posts on this board. My perspective of a “good deal” might be very different from yours, and we are most likely both right.

Residents typically have a bit more flexibility, but often do not want to bring girls back to their own apartment. With more flexibility they often are more price conscious – if I don’t take someone tonight, there is always tomorrow night. Residents also have the ability to develop a deeper relationship with the “regular” girls who work at his local pub. He can become protective of the girls, and the girls will sometimes become protective of him.

Visitors are normally in China for a short time, working during the day time, and free at night. They stay in hotels where they can normally take girls, unless they are traveling with their spouse or co-workers. Visitors will typically spend more money that a resident – after all, when is the next time they will be in Beijing?

When you post a message for the first time on the Beijing forum you need to state a little about your background (here for a while, or just passing thru), any experience you might have already had (even if it was a negative one – “no girls in the lobby of XYZ hotel”), and what type of experience you are seeking. Such a post will most certainly be well received by the senior members of the board, and they will be much more likely to share information with you. If you ask a question on the board that is answered in this document, or discussed in the last few pages of the forum, you will simply be answered with a “read the forum” reply.

So many factors affect the price that you will pay that I am hesitant to even generalize prices. Factors include venue, nationality, age, perceived beauty, amount of time “in the business”, time of day, day of the week, and even the day of the month (is rent due soon?). I have known many young, good looking guys who think they should get a discount simply because the girl should want to go with them anyway. Experience has shown that this attitude will typically cause the girl to charge you more, or give you worse services. Generally speaking multiple visits to the same girl will almost always improve the experience, but not always. If you are a resident and setup a “regular” visit with a girl you can typically negotiate a better rate than if you go with a different girl every time. The key is to simply discuss the situation with the girl. From her standpoint it is always better/safer to go with someone she knows is not crazy then to risk going with a stranger.

Holidays
Major holidays in China are always a time for crack down in Beijing, so you can expect these times to be slower than others. The major holiday in China is Spring Festival. It’s date is based upon the lunar calendar, but typically in late January or early February. In the weeks prior to Spring Festival the police will begin raiding bars, clubs and KTVs. In addition, most of the working girls will go to their home town for the holiday, so if you are a visitor you will be out of luck during this holiday. Other major holidays to be avoided include May 1 – International Labor Holiday, and the first week of October, which is the holiday honoring the founding of the People’s Republic of China.

The Girls
Chinese girls can be found everywhere; you are in China, after all! If a girl speaks good English then she is probably working for herself, i.e. free-lance. Girls in Saunas, BBS, and Streetwalkers may be girls from the countryside who have been brought to the city under the assumption they would be working a straight job, only to be thrust into this business. Most are simply trying to earn money in the “Big City” to send back home to their family. Some get caught up in the life style, and are just looking to make a quick buck. Just like any job, there are many different girls enter this business for many different reasons. You can get a young (18 years old) Chinese girl from the countryside, who speaks little if any English, for a short time for around 300 RMB. A girl in her early 20s that speaks decent English will probably ask for 1000 RMB for short time, but will probably go for 600 RMB. Chinese girls will typically ask to be paid up-front. I recommend you offer to pay half up front, and half after the fact. Otherwise the girl has no motivation to provide a good experience. I find Chinese girls to be more mechanical, approaching their job with a professional attitude, but that is just my opinion.

Most Mongolian girls are free lance, but some were deceived into entering the business with the promise of a good job in Beijing. Price will range from 600 RMB for short time, up to 1500 RMB for all night. Most Mongolian girls do not expect to be paid until after the act, so if one asks to be paid up front I would be a little suspicious. In my experience the Mongolian girls provide a more passionate, girlfriend experience (GFE), but experiences vary.

Most of the Russian girls are in Beijing on some type of “indentured servitude” arrangement – someone paid for their travel from Russia to Beijing, and they have to work off this cost. They are very firm on price because they must give back a certain amount back to their “handler”. As I recall they charge 1000 RMB for short-time, and 2500 RMB for all night. Many of the Russian girls in Beijing will not go with Westerners – they prefer to take Chinese men who will pay them more, and finish faster. While residents might be interested in the Russian girls, if you are a visitor to China then why go after something you can get find “back home”?

You can meet a girl in your hotel room before 11 pm without difficulty. After 11 pm you may have to register the girl at the front desk. If this is the case, than she will need a valid passport – ruling out the Chinese girls. Don’t worry about registering the girl – if anything she will be less likely to try anything funny because the hotel has her name and passport information. For short time most girls will have an apartment. It is typically safe to go back to the girl’s place, but keep your wits about you, and don’t expect anything fancy. Another alternative is to meet a girl at a sauna. They are open 24 hours a day, and most of them have rooms for rent just like a hotel, only by the hour. You would each enter the sauna and then plan to meet “up stairs”. If you are looking for a long time experience, or think you may want to try to convert a short-time to a long time, it is best to take the girl back to your place.

Sauna
Sauna’s in the west often spark visions of homosexual activities, but in China this is not the case. They are places where you can go and have a relaxing soak in a hot tub, as well as get a massage. Many saunas are thin veils for brothels.
Upon entry you surrender your shoes and are given a key to a locker. There are separate locker room and bathing areas for men and women. You go in, strip down, and put your cloths in a locker. You then take a shower and can enjoy the hot tub, sauna room, ect. When you are finished you can go up to the 2nd floor which is typically a mixed sex area where they may have a buffet, and a place where you can get a foot massage. There will probably be a separate area with private rooms where you can get a massage. Some places only offer straight massage, but most will offer extras. The better saunas will perform a “routine” where the girl combines a body-to-body massage, cat bath, ect. Depending on the level of package you purchase. Some will provide “prostrate” massage which will seem strange if you have never had one, but worth the experience. If there is an “oil massage” on the menu this should at least include a “happy ending”. Normally the step from “oil massage” to a “deluxe” package is step – from 300 RMB for an oil massage, to 1200+ RMB for full service. Some saunas may have additional apparatus, like the famed “red ropes”, but I have not found such a place in Beijing. I am sure Sauna’s periodically get raided, but typically the layout of the place is such that you would be able to get yourself together before getting caught in a compromising position. Saunas will typically accept credit cards, and be able to issue official receipts (fa piao) under the title of “food” for those of you who can file an expense report. My best sauna experience was actually in Macau, where they have girls from all over Asia from which to choose, and performance is top notch.

Barbershops (BBS) and Massage Parlors (MP)
Small shops are located all over the city that employee Chinese girls. You can tell the difference between a legitimate barbershop or massage parlor from one the offers extra service by just looking in the front door. If you see several scantily clad girls sitting in the front window, gesturing for you to come in, they do not want to give you a haircut. Typically you will pick a girl and go into a back room that may only be separated from the front of the parlor by a sheet hanging on the door. Privacy is non-existent. The girls will ask for a high price to start off, but you can probably get a hand-job for 100 RMB (or less), and full sex for under 300 RMB. They may also try to up-sell you to multiple girls (one gives oyu the hand job, while another lets you see/feel her boobs), ect. Sometimes the girls will go back with you to your hotel/apartment, but this is rare. I have never felt too safe at such establishments as privacy is limited, but I have never heard of anyone getting busted at a BBS.

Hotel Lobby/Bar
If you are staying in a 2 or 3 start hotel then there is a good chance that you will receive a call from someone in the hotel “beauty parlor” offering you massage. If you answer the phone with an English “hello” they may simply hang-up, but a “wei?” might get you a proposition. If you do not receive a phone call it might be worth checking out the hotel beauty parlor because if they offer extra service this will be the spot from which they are dispatched. If the hotel has a sauna then it might also be a place where you can find extra services. When traveling outside of Beijing the hotel beauty parlor or sauna may be the only place where you can find any action.
Most 4 and 5 star hotels will have a few working girls hanging around the lobby or bar area. These girls will primarily Chinese girls, but there may be the odd Mongolian or Russian thrown into the mix. No matter how “new” these girls claim to be to Beijing, they most likely have been working the same spot for several years. They will know, and be known by, most of the hotel/bar staff. The girl will typically approach you and ask where you are from, how long you will be in town, and where you are staying. The younger/better looking they appear, combined with their ability to speak English, will determine the price. Just like when you shop for anything in Beijing, they will start off with a high price, but most likely come down to a reasonable level. Girls working out of the hotel lobby/bar are typically very low risk because they will be well known to the management, and thus will not want to cause trouble by trying to rip you off. In addition, the girls will be plugged into the local situation, and know when it is not safe to go back to your room.

Bar/Club/Disco
Just about any bar in Beijing that foreigners frequent will have at least a few working girls. The routine will be the same as outlined in the “Hotel Lobby Bar” section above. Generally speaking it is safe to take a girl back to your hotel or apartment, but sometimes the cops will come through one of the bars and ask to see identification cards. Normally they are just harassing the girls, but there have been cases where they have asked to see the passports of the guys in the bar too. If they do, it is not a big deal. I recommend carrying a copy of your passport, along with a copy of the visa page and the page with the entry stamp. This should satisfy any request. If you leave a bar with a girl you may want to just double check and ensure that you are not being followed. I certainly do not want to make everyone paranoid, but there have been cases of cops following “couples” from a bar back to their hotel and knocking on the door.

Streetwalker (SW)
Just like everywhere in the world there are girls working the “street”, but in Beijing it is a little different. Rather than seeing the actual girl on the street you will most likely be approached by a “mommy” who will promise beautiful girls. If you agree a car may quickly show up with several girls inside from which you can choose. These girls may be cute, but will most likely be in experienced and will not speak any English. On the plus side, they will be cheap – maybe 300 RMB for short time.
WARNING – don’t ever go with / follow someone who promises to take you to a bar with “beautiful girls”. These places are just out to scam you.

Karaoke Bar (KTV)
There are several big chain KTVs where friends/co-works go to have fun, such as Party World. This is not the type of KTV you want – you want one where they have girls. A KTV is a group experience, so if you are solo it is not advised. Get a Chinese friend/business partner to take you to one. You may want to drop some hints that you would like to see some beautiful girls, otherwise he may think you just want to sing. It is at such events that trust and “guan xi” is truly solidified.

When you get to the KTV you will be shown a room with sectional sofas along the back wall, and an audio/visual system along the front wall. The cost of the KTV experience includes the room, drinks/snacks, and tips for the girls. You can typically get the room fee waved if you purchase a minimum amount of drinks. After the room details are settled then a lineup of girls will be brought in to the room. You can choose whichever girl meets your fancy. They may speak a little English, but most will not. No problem, as you did not come to talk anyway – you can always play the dice game with her to get things “warmed up”. The overall experience can range from very tame to very wild. At a tame KTV you would sit with your girl, chat, drink and flirt, but not much more. At a wild KTV the girls will get naked, dance, and rub all over you. I have never heard of any sexual the (HJ, BJ, or FS) taking place at a KTV in Beijing, but in Xian it is routine for this to happen. The girls will sometimes go out with you, but they tend to be a little on the expensive side (1000 RMB for short time), as they also tend to be younger and more attractive the other working girls. If you want a girl who will go home with you it is best to ask the “mommy” who is showing you the girls to help you select a girl, as she will know which ones are more open to the idea. Tips at a KTV in Beijing is typically 300 RMB per girl. It is the same amount if she sits with you for an hour, or all night. I will often select 2 girls from the line up to minimize my chance of picking a “dud”. After 30 minutes or so I will dismiss one of the girls if she is no fun with a minimal tip. You can always ask the mommy to bring back in a lineup of girls to allow you to pick another one, but the “good” girls tend to go fast. By the end of the night the selection is not that great. Most KTVs can provide you with an official receipt (fa piao) for the total cost (including tips) written out for “food”. Again, good for those of you on expense accounts.

Shopping
There have been several posts from guys who have had luck picking up girls at various shopping centers (China World mall, for one). If you are walking around a mall and a girl makes eye contact with you, and gives you a big smile, then she is probably on the game. Walk over and say hello. There are several SCAMS out there of which you should be aware – the girl may ask you to go to a tea house or bar just to “talk”. If this happens it should immediately set off alarm bells. Her goal will be to order some expensive tea/drink, and then stick you with the bill. When the order is places ALWAYS find out what she has ordered, and how much it will cost.
If you have been lucky enough to find a girl that is not a scam artist then you may be in for a little afternoon fun. Afternoon prices should be lower than evening prices, no matter how much the girl quotes you.

Classified ads (internet, local English publications)
Several of the English language magazines and websites list “massage” services. No mater how the ad is worded, the girl in the picture is not the girl you are going to get. Most of the numbers go back to a single person answering the phone, who will then dispatch a girl that is similar to what you want. When you talk to them on the phone be as specific as possible, without mentioning sexual services. Say you want a tall girl, short girl, slim, big breasts, ect. The price they quote you will be for a straight forward massage, with a possible happy ending. When the girl arrives at your door you have the option of sending her away, but you should at least give her taxi money. If you accept her you get comfortable and she will start the massage. Once she gets you nice and horney she will try to up-sell you to full sex. She will start at a high price, but if you stick to your guns you should be able to keep her to a reasonable level. To my knowledge the Chinese police do not run “sting” operations in Beijing, so you are fairly safe in having a girl from a classified ad meet you.

Good luck, and Happy Hunting!

Sammy

Clevererhandle
04-20-09, 15:45
Thanks for the intro Sammy--as a newcomer to Beijing (and short time visitor), it is nice to see there's hope

I've stayed some in Shanghai and it seemed BBSs or Saunas with FS were everywhere, and the reports make it sound like Beijing is very different.

So all I have so far is 2 negatives and a question:

1. There's a Massage place on the NorthWest corner after you get off the Wudakou stop on Line 13 (near Tsinghua Uni). Cute girls, mediocre massage, and sex seemed out of the question (at least to the girl I asked).

2. Up the street is the Wenjin Hotel. Tried the sauna there, and got the "respectable" vibe, not the "you pay we play" vibe

So--I'm still slowly hunting. I'm wandered around a bit last night but didn't see anything like the BBSs in Shanghai.

My question is: I came unprepared (that's not the question). How do I search the forum through a tunnel? I can't seem to get it to work. I suppose I should also ask: Is it safe to list the tunnel I'm using here (or does that just help the Great Firewall people)?

Thanks,

NotsoCleverer

Blackjai
04-21-09, 03:46
Sorry to be a n00b but I've been digging around for a while now but still unable to locate Hollywood that everyone is talking about, can someone post the address if it's still open? thanks.

Bad Boy Billy
04-21-09, 07:11
still unable to locate Hollywood......................can someone post the address if it's still open? Here you go mate - just show this to the taxi driver.

Further evidence for you guys - Sammy's post resemble War and Peace - and about as interesting - Billy's posts brief, concise, accuurate, to the point.

J/K Sammy - you know I "luvs ya".

BTW - Billy will be arriving Mon Apr 27 - Beijing Canuck - were are you?

El Frances
04-21-09, 09:13
Classified ads (internet, local English publications)

Several of the English language magazines and websites list “massage” services. No mater how the ad is worded, the girl in the picture is not the girl you are going to get. Most of the numbers go back to a single person answering the phone, who will then dispatch a girl that is similar to what you want. When you talk to them on the phone be as specific as possible, without mentioning sexual services. Say you want a tall girl, short girl, slim, big breasts, ect. The price they quote you will be for a straight forward massage, with a possible happy ending. When the girl arrives at your door you have the option of sending her away, but you should at least give her taxi money. If you accept her you get comfortable and she will start the massage. Once she gets you nice and horney she will try to up-sell you to full sex. She will start at a high price, but if you stick to your guns you should be able to keep her to a reasonable level. To my knowledge the Chinese police do not run “sting” operations in Beijing, so you are fairly safe in having a girl from a classified ad meet you.

Good luck, and Happy Hunting!

SammyThanks Sammy for your attention, there was a crucial need of some kind of Beijing FAQ. However, I disagree on the approach you advise on this last topic. My modus operandi is to be very explicit (massage sex), to try to get a price on the phone (max. 800 RMB FS ST plus taxi). As you said, pictures are not their pictures so there's no use to stick to a girl because she's beautiful on a picture. Call the next number if it doesn't work. The alternative m.o. (some girls don't want to discuss price on the phone, which means for shure they will try to overprice you) is that when the girl arrives (if you like her), don't let her start anything. Talk price at once, and your attitude should let her understand she will go back home if the price is not OK. The argument is "the other incall girls I had were charging 800", that's enough. No girl is stupid enough to back home watch TV instead of cashing 800 RMB.

My preferred incall channel now is getting girls who speak nearly no English, but are younger and less professional, and always full GFE and playfull. Quality varies 7/8. The drawback is that it's difficult to communicate with mamas in English. But with some efforts it works. The best is to communicate by SMS because they can always find someone to translate (Chinese SIM cards cost i think 480 RMB, good investment) (send name, room number, hotel name, hotel phone, massage sex 500 + taxi, it is usually enough). Price for FS ST is 500 plus taxi (40/70 depending where you stay). The girl gets 300 and mama 200. For a good GFE service, I give them altogether 600 incl. taxi which leaves them a small tip.

These are a few numbers I used [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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SE Asia Joe
04-21-09, 09:24
!

It has been a long time since I have written one of my “beginner guides to Beijing”. I have been hoping that things Good luck, and Happy Hunting!

Sammy


WOW!!!! and Double WOW!! That is one helluva piece!
Even for an old dog like me - such a list is still very useful and informative.

Wish I could figure out how to highlight it on the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread as your post is truly deserving of such honor instead of some of the diatribe that I've seen being nominated for.

Come to think of it, I still wonder why/how Jackson/the computer figures which post is deserving of being marked for "suggestion for some one to nominate to the distinction thread?"

SEAJ

Whomer
04-21-09, 13:46
It has been a long time since I have written one of my “beginner guides to Beijing”.

Good luck, and Happy Hunting!

Sammy

Just GREAT! Thank you, Sammy_T, for this comprehensive summary.

Yes, SE Asia Joe, this is a wonderful "Report of Distinction", let's try to ask Jackson, how to link this.

Finally: The Beijing ISG group is a wonderful group, maintains the forum in a dynamic way and enables that ISG Beijing always provide many information about our hobby.

Thank you for that

Whomer

Biandoe
04-22-09, 02:29
I have more to add from my trip to M's on 4-16. I went in sat down and bought a Tsingdao for 30 RMB. After about ten minutes a WG named C--i cam over and we chatted for a few minutes. I bought her a drink, she picked an 80 RMB. I know from the menus that sit on the bar that there are many different prices. I think 80 is what the girls ask for first, but I saw some other girls with smaller drinks, maybe smaller prices. I let this first WG know up front what I was looking for without ever having to say the word s-x or f--k, It was just understood.

So we sat there talking for awhile and I decided to go to an ATM. Just for informational purposes, there is an ATM machines one block west and two blocks south. Close to the Starbucks and on the same side of the street. The ATM is also next to a massage business which I have not been in.

When I got back to M’s I decided I wanted to talk with some other girls, wanted to see what was out there. So I sat down ordered another beer. C--i comes over to me right away. I politely told her that I wanted to just sit there for awhile. She was disappointed, but not mad. After about ten minutes another hottie came over. This one was packing some hooters (for a Chinese) and was not afraid to show them off. Really nice cleavage. After some more small talk, L--y shoots me a price on her cell phone of 1500. I told her that it was too high. After a little more conversation the price was down to 1000. I left before taken her out. I never asked about how long, but assumed it was ST. I had gone there just to check the place out. Even though I had read much about M’s, I always do my on recon. Because of a planned trip to Tianjin I do not go back until Sunday.

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Blackjai
04-22-09, 18:17
Yes, JP Traveler we should all be envious. I am glad you are discovering Tulip.

Years ago I bought a small ranch in New Mexico U. S. A. After closing on the deal I was celebrating in a bar in town when an old Native American come up to me and said "You don’t own the land, the land owns you". "It will be still be there long after you leave".

I now feel that same way about Tulip.

I first started going to Tulip about a year ago after reading reports, much like yours, from the previous year. Most of these stories describe incredible sex acts like shower deep throats, toe fucking, rimming, and ass fucking.

A year before that others posted the same experiences after having discovered a newly opened MP called Tulip.

Go back past 2005 in other forums (Google is great) and you will find stories of Barons where Saeng, Dow, and Nestle, were giving the same PSE and GFE for the same price they do now.

Many of the regulars contributers to the Bangkok Massage Parlors thread have posted about their first time at Tulip. I would read all there stories and then go visit a particular girl that did so and so just to see if it was true. This February I had my first and only bad experience at Tulip. It pissed me off so much that I joined this forum to tell all. Since then I have posted more than 10 good stories and pictures about my experiences.

As far as the bad experience, a lot of factors were involved. I had just gotten of a plane from Singapore (another story in itself) and had way too many whiskey-cokes. I headed off to Tulip with the intention of blowing as much money, time, and wads as possible. My first session with June was enjoyable; my second with Jane was incredible. My third was with Nestle. I was already spent and Nestle said she was tired. She also had minor cosmetic surgery that day. She started to pull some attitude and I called the session off. What set me off was the reports I read about her in ISG. I was feeling slighted because I paid a prostitute to have sex with me and I did not get the same PSE treatment as others. We both went downstairs and in front of everyone I let it be known that I had not been satisfied and requested another girl for a forth session. Probably not the best face saving move for either of us.

When I reported this in ISG was when I got my real education. A few posters reported a similar experience with a "tired’ Nestle, but the majority retaliated against me. They called me troll, spy, and worse. One forum member even confronted Nestle with the story. I can just imagine that conversation – "Honey, this bad man says he paid you money for sex and you didn’t suck his dick. Tell me it isn’t so and I will tell everybody how good of a fuck you really are"

What I learned from this is that most ISG Tulip customers really care about these girls and some even put them up on a pedestal. I too have learned to have a great deal of respect for some Tulip girls and return to see my favorites often.

For now I am going to curtail my Tulip visits. I can’t give up mongering as I have spent more than my car payment for the last four years at MP’s but there are still many more MP’s to visit. I certainly don’t have the torch to pass but I wish you all the best luck.

I may never return to Tulip, but the memories will never be forgotten. I vividly remember Korean MP girls I fucked in Seoul 30 years so, I don’t think I will forget these girls. If Alzheimer’s kicks in I will just Google my old ISG pasts.

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FernandoAlonso
04-24-09, 09:56
Yes, JP Traveler we should all be envious. I am glad you are discovering Tulip.

Years ago I bought a small ranch in New Mexico U. S. A. After closing on the deal I was celebrating in a bar in town when an old Native American come up to me and said "You don’t own the land, the land owns you". "It will be still be there long after you leave".

I now feel that same way about Tulip.

I first started going to Tulip about a year ago after reading reports, much like yours, from the previous year. Most of these stories describe incredible sex acts like shower deep throats, toe fucking, rimming, and ass fucking.

A year before that others posted the same experiences after having discovered a newly opened MP called Tulip.

Go back past 2005 in other forums (Google is great) and you will find stories of Barons where Saeng, Dow, and Nestle, were giving the same PSE and GFE for the same price they do now.

Many of the regulars contributers to the Bangkok Massage Parlors thread have posted about their first time at Tulip. I would read all there stories and then go visit a particular girl that did so and so just to see if it was true. This February I had my first and only bad experience at Tulip. It pissed me off so much that I joined this forum to tell all. Since then I have posted more than 10 good stories and pictures about my experiences.

As far as the bad experience, a lot of factors were involved. I had just gotten of a plane from Singapore (another story in itself) and had way too many whiskey-cokes. I headed off to Tulip with the intention of blowing as much money, time, and wads as possible. My first session with June was enjoyable; my second with Jane was incredible. My third was with Nestle. I was already spent and Nestle said she was tired. She also had minor cosmetic surgery that day. She started to pull some attitude and I called the session off. What set me off was the reports I read about her in ISG. I was feeling slighted because I paid a prostitute to have sex with me and I did not get the same PSE treatment as others. We both went downstairs and in front of everyone I let it be known that I had not been satisfied and requested another girl for a forth session. Probably not the best face saving move for either of us.

When I reported this in ISG was when I got my real education. A few posters reported a similar experience with a "tired’ Nestle, but the majority retaliated against me. They called me troll, spy, and worse. One forum member even confronted Nestle with the story. I can just imagine that conversation – "Honey, this bad man says he paid you money for sex and you didn’t suck his dick. Tell me it isn’t so and I will tell everybody how good of a fuck you really are"

What I learned from this is that most ISG Tulip customers really care about these girls and some even put them up on a pedestal. I too have learned to have a great deal of respect for some Tulip girls and return to see my favorites often.

For now I am going to curtail my Tulip visits. I can’t give up mongering as I have spent more than my car payment for the last four years at MP’s but there are still many more MP’s to visit. I certainly don’t have the torch to pass but I wish you all the best luck.

I may never return to Tulip, but the memories will never be forgotten. I vividly remember Korean MP girls I fucked in Seoul 30 years so, I don’t think I will forget these girls. If Alzheimer’s kicks in I will just Google my old ISG pasts.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Are you sure this belongs in the BEIJING thread?

FA

FernandoAlonso
04-24-09, 11:04
First, I want to say thanks to all of the newcomers who have been posting reports. It is the exchange of information that makes this forum great, especially when times are tough!

SammyAs accurate and helpful as always.

2 short remarks on MPs and Hotel registration:

MPs are only a good source for HJs, not FS if you are a short time visitor, residents can develop some kind of relationship with individual girls leading to all kind of arrangements from P4P to real GFs, your choice.

Also outcalls from these places are normally only FS in special places, you cannot rely on this!

I never had a problem with Chinese girl registration, sure they have no passport, some not even an ID (but a friend or sister ones), a Chinese ID works in most places. In some Expats condominiums the situation is the same.

All the best

FA

Worm
04-24-09, 14:38
Sorry, you're not obnoxious. My bad with the wrong street name. The street running west from Hujialou subway that has the BBS's is indeed Chaoyang Beilu 潮阳北路 (don't know if these characters will appear. The translation is Chaoyang North Street), not Chaoyangmenwai Dajie.

Be aware that the first shop (on the L or south side of Chaoyang Beilu) doesn't appear for about 100-200 m, and you can't really see it if you're setting off from the subway station. So just keep walking and you'll find it.

Have not seen a report on the once popular Hujialou No. 10 subway BBS (in the CBD just north of the Jingguan Hotel next to the 3rd Ring Road) so I walked by the other evening.

Everything looked that same. Three places on the left as you walk west on the road, two dimly lit places on the other side of the street. Took a stroll down the street and observed above average quality and quantity in each.

As I walked back to make a selection, a girl pops out of one and makes my jaw drop. Tall, model like, extremely hot. She buys a snack at a vendor, smiles at me, and as I moved towards her she motioned me into her place.

Inside it was immediately to the back room behind the curtains. She offers massage for rmb100, I suggest we shoot airplanes. She counters rmb200, I suggest we make love, she counters rmb300. Deal. I pay, she shows it to the other girls and stuffs it in her wallet. She pulls me out the back door and we go to a small apartment down some dark hallways.

Then the upselling starts. Oh, you wanted to stick your dick in there? Well that is 1000. You want a BBBJ? another 100. I say I will just take the basic service, and she offers the daily special - BBBJ and CFS for rmb600. Horny and foolish, I agree.

She strips her panties off, but leaves the long fishnets on, which is pretty sexy. I tell her to take the top off, to expose the natural a/b. The BBBJ is pretty good, and she has no problem with my hands doing as I please.

Now I mentioned this girl is pretty skinny, so I am the ride should be good. I stick the worm in and feel nothing. By golly its big in there. I move my hips from side to side and I don't think I am hitting the sides. Now, I think I am a fairly normal western guy, but my first wife did tell me when she threw me out that one of the things she hated about me was that my dick was too big. That comment kind of took the sting off her taking half my money. But back to the bbs honey, this is the sloppiest hole I have ever used. (I may be spoiled, however, if you saw my backdoor posting last week). I finally pulled the worm out and told her to shoot down an airplane, which she did quite competently.

All in all, easy ST experience, a good negotiator could probably get good value.

Linkhainan
04-24-09, 15:34
I am on the same boat with you.

The girls from BBS in Beijing always play hard ball. They agree to provide Blowjob, but don't tell you that you have to add the bonus to get such service.

The majority of girls/ladies in Beijing are old and experienced in sex making. That's the reason they have big hole and you will never feel anything no matter how huge your stuff is. lalala

With such poor conditions, they always dare to charge you more money. No way!

These are 3 reasons why I always take no actions in Beijing at all.


Have not seen a report on the once popular Hujialou No. 10 subway BBS (in the CBD just north of the Jingguan Hotel next to the 3rd Ring Road) so I walked by the other evening.

Everything looked that same. Three places on the left as you walk west on the road, two dimly lit places on the other side of the street. Took a stroll down the street and observed above average quality and quantity in each.

As I walked back to make a selection, a girl pops out of one and makes my jaw drop. Tall, model like, extremely hot. She buys a snack at a vendor, smiles at me, and as I moved towards her she motioned me into her place.

Inside it was immediately to the back room behind the curtains. She offers massage for rmb100, I suggest we shoot airplanes. She counters rmb200, I suggest we make love, she counters rmb300. Deal. I pay, she shows it to the other girls and stuffs it in her wallet. She pulls me out the back door and we go to a small apartment down some dark hallways.

Then the upselling starts. Oh, you wanted to stick your dick in there? Well that is 1000. You want a BBBJ? another 100. I say I will just take the basic service, and she offers the daily special - BBBJ and CFS for rmb600. Horny and foolish, I agree.

She strips her panties off, but leaves the long fishnets on, which is pretty sexy. I tell her to take the top off, to expose the natural a/b. The BBBJ is pretty good, and she has no problem with my hands doing as I please.

Now I mentioned this girl is pretty skinny, so I am the ride should be good. I stick the worm in and feel nothing. By golly its big in there. I move my hips from side to side and I don't think I am hitting the sides. Now, I think I am a fairly normal western guy, but my first wife did tell me when she threw me out that one of the things she hated about me was that my dick was too big. That comment kind of took the sting off her taking half my money. But back to the bbs honey, this is the sloppiest hole I have ever used. (I may be spoiled, however, if you saw my backdoor posting last week). I finally pulled the worm out and told her to shoot down an airplane, which she did quite competently.

All in all, easy ST experience, a good negotiator could probably get good value.

Clevererhandle
04-24-09, 17:34
I went back to the Massage place near the Wudaokou metro stop to get a massage after a long day at the Wall. Ordered the most expensive, for 298 + 38 entry fee. The smirks I got from the young male attendents gave me some hope, and they sent in a girl ready to undress and get started.

Even though they have "Massage" spelled out, I don't think they get many westerners. At least the girl I had wasn't quite up for it and complained about the size (I'm no porn star, at least, not back home). Her idea of foreplay was to undress and put a rubber on me. There was no breast play--it reminded me of the 15 minute "red light special" places in Germany. Still she kept at it the full 45 minutes allowed for the price, so I give her "A" for effort. She wrote her phone number on a piece of paper that I left in the pajamas.

She negotiated price, and it turned out to be 800 + 38 entry. They waived the "Continental Massage" fee.

Never got the massage, but overall left feeling satisfied.

Also, found a proxy server that allows searches--for those of you stuck like me, just go through the list at proxy.org until you find one that works.

[The massage parlor is west out of the Wudaokou metro stop on Line 13, on the north side of ChengFeng Lu, on the northwest corner of ChengFeng & Shuangquing Lu. It has a neon sign over it, and it's in the same building as the bar Touch 9. It ain't great, but it's close.]


Thanks for the intro Sammy--as a newcomer to Beijing (and short time visitor), it is nice to see there's hope

I've stayed some in Shanghai and it seemed BBSs or Saunas with FS were everywhere, and the reports make it sound like Beijing is very different.

So all I have so far is 2 negatives and a question:

1. There's a Massage place on the NorthWest corner after you get off the Wudakou stop on Line 13 (near Tsinghua Uni). Cute girls, mediocre massage, and sex seemed out of the question (at least to the girl I asked).

2. Up the street is the Wenjin Hotel. Tried the sauna there, and got the "respectable" vibe, not the "you pay we play" vibe

So--I'm still slowly hunting. I'm wandered around a bit last night but didn't see anything like the BBSs in Shanghai.

My question is: I came unprepared (that's not the question). How do I search the forum through a tunnel? I can't seem to get it to work. I suppose I should also ask: Is it safe to list the tunnel I'm using here (or does that just help the Great Firewall people)?

Thanks,

NotsoCleverer

Intransit
04-24-09, 20:26
Fantastic Friday night at Maggie's tonight. Great music, tons of women and a real big crowd. Bartenders were very busy but in a very good mood. The Maggie's girls (those that work for the bar) seem to be really getting into it -- I saw one girl tonight give a customer what I could only describe as a lap dance at the bar, after kissing him on the mouth, and more than just a peck.

Had been at a "ladies night" at another bar earlier on (not Tun) and it was such a sausage fest I asked for mustard. Guys, if you're going to have a ladies night in Beijing, then you better go to Mags and get your degree.

If you think Maggie's ain't what it used to be, that seems to be news to the old timers, who continue to return. I ran into a woman I always referred to as my "source" for Maggie's and community news, who is now back, despite (untrue) rumors that she had gotten married. I saw another tonight that I hadn't seen in about two years. They're not here on holiday, that's for sure.

Biandoe
04-25-09, 10:27
I went last Sunday and arrived at M’s around 10:00 pm. When I got there, all I saw where girls working for drinks only, save for one. I stuck around for awhile to see if someone might walk in the door. Just more guys and a few couples but no WG’s, but that one, and I wasn’t interested.

So I decide to go to Hollywood. I leave M’s and see two girls next to the outside door. I said “Ni hao” But little response, just soft giggles. So I start walking West from M’s. At the corner is Moscow bar. I turned right and head North. One half block straight on the left is Hollywood. I enter the first series of double doors and a man sitting at a table asks for 50 RMB. I hand him the money and receive a ticket. At the next set of doors are two men, one I hand the ticket to, the other opens the door for me.

Inside Hollywood I saw directly in front of me a large somewhat square bar. I sat down and ordered a drink. Sitting at the bar, but looking away from it are 5 blonds (Russians?). There is at least one more playing pool off to the far left. I see most men are just drinking at tables, not talking to any girls. I’m thinking WTF. All the other girls look Asian. One tall one keeps turning around and looking at me and me at her. I sat there wanting her to make the first move.

This girl is a tall Asian, ample breasts, long legs, and long straight black hair. Everything I wanted. Finally after a few more minutes of looking at me, I go over to were she is standing with some other girls. She can only speak enough English to get the deed done. Price, yes and no kind of stuff. She starts out at 1000, but I gently shake my head no, and tell her it is too much. I countered with 800 and asked her where to go. She said no to my price and said to her place.

This my first time out for FS in China, so I was not interested in going somewhere I did know. This became a sticking point for us. I was about to walk away and look for something else. When I turned, she may have lower price to 700, I’m not sure because of the load music and her accent. Either way we agreed 800 and my place. Here where’s thing get pretty F--ked up as far as I am concerned.

We go out to get a cab and I open the back door for her to get in. She said no and motions to the cab behind this first one. I am suppose to go in the first cab and she will follow. I show the cab driver direction to my hotel, a great place only one block past Wangfujing. We start down the road and I notice he never started the meter, so I asked how much. He said one hundred for him and one hundred for second cab. I really thought WTF rip-off. So I try to bargain a lower price. Cab driver says, “Hollywood Taxi, two hundred RMB”. Well it was either pay and play or no go. I already booked a room, so I paid the as---les.

The hotel is Citytel Inn on NanHeYan Ave., just North of DongChang’an Jie,. Only 168 RMB for twin bed. Room is small, but clean, nice shower and furnishing. Very close to Ritan park.I walk in the small lobby where two guard are chilling. I never make eye contact, but they look up and then back down to their books or something. Never say a word, so I say girl friendly hotel. The lift is just inside the door to the left. We go to my room and she goes to the bathroom and I strip.

She comes back wearing only a black bra, black skirt and black crotchless panty hose and high heel shoes. An awesome sight making Mr. Didi mighty happy. She gets down on her knees and does something no chic has ever down to me, she smells Mr. Didi. I guess she approved because she starts to like my balls and c--k with her tongue. I’m hard and she throws on a cover. Once I’m in her mouth, I gently grab the back of her head and slide in as far as I can. She’s not going to take all of it in, but her warm, moist mouth feel good just the same.

Soon I’m ready for her other hole. She stands up and slide me inside while standing up against the wall. Wow, I’m digging this action. We do this for awhile and then move to the bed. She lays on her back and with her long stocking legs sticking in the air, opens up for me. I gently mount her and stroke away. After about ten minutes I ask her for doggy. She moves around but this does’t’t last very long. I guess she did not like this position.

So we go back to mish. Another ten minutes and I let go. We both cleaned up and she left me in the room. She did not want me to take her to the lobby. Cost : WG-800, Drink-35, Entrance Fee-50, Taxi-200 WTF, Hotel-168. Experience-Priceless. Yea, I got her number.

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Zhuren
04-26-09, 06:05
Biandoe:

If you would have RTFF ...


- You would have entered M's not earlier than 11pm , recently 12:30 to 1am even better. You would have had a good time and (NEW!) the guard would even have opened the door to a regular Beijing taxi

- You wouldn't have said "Ni Hao" to girls lingering outside of M's. They were Mongolians. They speak English. You would have offered to take them in (they needed a male escort for admission) or straight to your hotel

- You would have avoided Hollywood altogether. As everybody knows, it's for Chinese who fancy blondes, not for longnoses who are after Asians. You were effing lucky to find someone you like

- You would not have fallen for the "Hollywood Taxi" scam. For TWO! Just say "Bu Yao" and take a regular cab

Congrats to your pick. From your description, she was most likely a Mongolian who was forced to play the taxi scam to be allowed back.

Hollywood is not just dark, it's dangerous.

Intransit
04-26-09, 06:38
Guys, don't be dicks -- the girls need guys to get into Maggie's right now. If there's a lady or two standing outside, ask her if she wants to go in (she may actually be waiting for someone else) and if yes, escort her inside. The guards don't care if she's genuinely with you or not, they just want to see a man walk a woman inside.

I had the worst legit bar experience of my life last night at Alfa, across from Workers Stadium north gate. Went there for a friend's event, I couldn't even stay for the whole thing because the place was crawling with a) obnoxious American/North American white girls who apparently are still waiting to get laid, and b) a horrendous collection of international school teachers. One of the other guys there asked me, "Is that someone's mom over there?"

It was so bad that I had to go wash the filth off me at Maggie's. Not quite as heaving as the previous night, but still a good time.

Misakimao
04-27-09, 03:17
It was really fantastic, It was my last night in Beiing.

I drank a bottle of Vodka in russian restaurant called Macow Canting in Xizhemen.

I fell a sleep and felt that I cannot visit M's.

But my mojo awake me at 1PM and I went to Maggies.

I met moogiis, Soogiis, Aagiis Doogiis at M's

It was so fantastic that I was so sad that I leave Beijing in saturday.

Good time for M's is friday and saturday after 12:00 AM as instructed by seniors.

I regret my waste time weekend in other places in Beijing during previous visits.


Fantastic Friday night at Maggie's tonight. Great music, tons of women and a real big crowd. Bartenders were very busy but in a very good mood. The Maggie's girls (those that work for the bar) seem to be really getting into it -- I saw one girl tonight give a customer what I could only describe as a lap dance at the bar, after kissing him on the mouth, and more than just a peck.

Had been at a "ladies night" at another bar earlier on (not Tun) and it was such a sausage fest I asked for mustard. Guys, if you're going to have a ladies night in Beijing, then you better go to Mags and get your degree.

If you think Maggie's ain't what it used to be, that seems to be news to the old timers, who continue to return. I ran into a woman I always referred to as my "source" for Maggie's and community news, who is now back, despite (untrue) rumors that she had gotten married. I saw another tonight that I hadn't seen in about two years. They're not here on holiday, that's for sure.

Whomer
04-27-09, 17:19
Biandoe:
If you would have RTFF ...
- You would have entered M's not earlier than 11pm
- You wouldn't have said "Ni Hao". Mongolians speak English. You would have offered to take them in
- You would have avoided Hollywood altogether.
- You would not have fallen for the "Hollywood Taxi" scam.


It is good to read your post again. Even I don't know you in person, I like your style, because it helped me during the last year to get in the BJ world.

Thank you

Whomer

Haokool
04-30-09, 09:39
I had the worst legit bar experience of my life last night at Alfa, across from Workers Stadium north gate. Went there for a friend's event, I couldn't even stay for the whole thing because the place was crawling with a) obnoxious American/North American white girls who apparently are still waiting to get laid, and b) a horrendous collection of international school teachers. One of the other guys there asked me, "Is that someone's mom over there?"

It was so bad that I had to go wash the filth off me at Maggie's. Not quite as heaving as the previous night, but still a good time.I feel for you man!

BJ is full of this kind; speaking of which Sanlitun is a nightmare, I'm planning to move to GZ. Donguan, SZ are on the menu.

As you ever heard of a "small town" (Chinese standard) going by the name of Yinde? Talk to me using PM plz.

Zhuren
05-02-09, 09:57
After an inspection tour to M's with Intransit, we officially give M's its A rating back. On a Friday night ...

- the place was buzzing, just like in the olden days
- new arrivals everywhere
- it was mobbed with tourists, just like in the olden days
- product moved out of the door early, just like in the olden days
- product was back for another round, just like in the olden days

And guess what, it was May 1.

The more things change ...

Bowerboy
05-02-09, 14:07
Dear Beijing Residents and Beijing Reulars, please help me.

I just came back from a look see trip to Beijing as I will be moving there for work. I did not see ANY attractive women there anywhere. It was really quite startling..the place seems completely devoid of good looking women. All I saw were drab women and oh how they seem to love those high waisted jeans. I was spending all my day times in a big office and even in that environment (100 plus girls) I did not see even 1 half decent girl. I didn’t check out the P4P scene as with prices starting at $120 and up (according to reports here and prices offered outside hotel) it is out of the question (I can afford it but refuse to pay that sort of money).

I then went from Beijing to Shenzen and that was MUCH more like the Asia I know and love…loads of really attractive girls everywhere and all wearing skimpy shorts or miniskirts…P4P starting at $20 and the girls were stunning.

Please gentleman can you let me know if I am missing something in Beijing or have misunderstood the place…it seems like being there will be just like being back in the real world ( I currently live in Bangkok). Really appreciate your thoughts as I have another job offer on the table that keeps me in Bangkok but with slightly less money than Beijing…right now I am scared of going to Beijing as it seems to be a barren wasteland as far as women are concerned…particularly normal everyday girls

Intransit
05-02-09, 18:14
Bowerboy,

I'm not sure what to say. Others and I feel like Beijing is overrun with beautiful women -- I am shocked on a daily basis of the beauty of women I see on the street.

If you're into Southeast Asian women, then the northern phenotype may not work for you. And now that you've lived in Bangkok, in many ways, you're downshifting. It's like working in a food court, and then all of a sudden, you work on a quiet street where there's only one restaurant.

The fact is, the legit scene here is pretty good, at least if you speak a bit of Chinese. The P4P scene is also decent with the same parameters.

Zhuren
05-03-09, 05:34
If you're into Southeast Asian women, then the northern phenotype may not work for you. Roger that. For me, the small, giggly, Southeast Asian phenotype (whatever that may be) doesn't work. I was at a total loss in BKK. Beijing is full of beautiful women, and competition is fierce. I still take the elegance and sophistication of a Tokyo lady above all, but that's because I'm a spoiled brat.

Red Ice
05-03-09, 13:15
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all those wonderful information you share here. I have read almost all reports on Beijing forum. I will be in Beijing for 2 month under summer for vacation. And I’m wondering about where is a good place to start if you are new on this front. I just have a little experience from Phuket (Thailand) on the bag. And how much are the standard fee for ST and LT here in beijingt?

And does anybody know a cheap hotel that you can rent, because I will shall a room with my friend, so take back the girl to my hotel room is out of question.

A little information about me so you can guild me right. I’m a Chinese but live in Europe so I can speak good mandarin but people in China will know that I don’t live in China when I speak with them. I’m 25 years old and I’m not interest to woman who are old than me. So where can you find girls who are between 20-25?

Red Ice
05-03-09, 14:29
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all those wonderful information you share here. I have read almost all reports on Beijing forum. I will be in Beijing for 2 month under summer for vacation. And I’m wondering about where is a good place to start if you are new on this front. I just have a little experience from Phuket (Thailand) on the bag. And how much are the standard fee for ST and LT here in beijingt. And does anybody know a cheap hotel that you can rent because I will share a room with my friend, so take back the girl to my hotel room is out of question.

A little information about me so you can guild me right. I’m a Chinese but live in Europe so I can speak good mandarin but people in China will know that I don’t live in China when I speak with them. I’m 25 years old so I’m not interest to woman who are old than me, the girls should be between 20-25.

Beijing Fox
05-03-09, 16:28
Japanese, Mongolian, Thai? They are all great somehow in their own ways. I wouldn't dare to compare one with the other, but all of them are wonderful, and very different. Best is to have them all. :-)




Roger that. For me, the small, giggly, Southeast Asian phenotype (whatever that may be) doesn't work. I was at a total loss in BKK. Beijing is full of beautiful women, and competition is fierce. I still take the elegance and sophistication of a Tokyo lady above all, but that's because I'm a spoiled brat.

Beijing Fox
05-04-09, 03:48
Yes, one can find jewels in any place and they are difficult to compare, but if I had your choice, I would stay in Bkk.

Weather, food, 'fashion' much much better there.





Dear Beijing Residents and Beijing Reulars, please help me.

I just came back from a look see trip to Beijing as I will be moving there for work. I did not see ANY attractive women there anywhere. It was really quite startling..the place seems completely devoid of good looking women. All I saw were drab women and oh how they seem to love those high waisted jeans. I was spending all my day times in a big office and even in that environment (100 plus girls) I did not see even 1 half decent girl. I didn’t check out the P4P scene as with prices starting at $120 and up (according to reports here and prices offered outside hotel) it is out of the question (I can afford it but refuse to pay that sort of money).

I then went from Beijing to Shenzen and that was MUCH more like the Asia I know and love…loads of really attractive girls everywhere and all wearing skimpy shorts or miniskirts…P4P starting at $20 and the girls were stunning.

Please gentleman can you let me know if I am missing something in Beijing or have misunderstood the place…it seems like being there will be just like being back in the real world ( I currently live in Bangkok). Really appreciate your thoughts as I have another job offer on the table that keeps me in Bangkok but with slightly less money than Beijing…right now I am scared of going to Beijing as it seems to be a barren wasteland as far as women are concerned…particularly normal everyday girls

Gaoshou
05-04-09, 07:52
Instransit, I wonder what you and others think would be the best place to take an out-of-town visitor/friend to help him find a freebie. I agree that the scene here is good, and I've had no trouble meeting many high-quality freebies/girlfriends in random situations (airplanes, shopping malls, friends of friends), but it has tended to happen by accident/luck in daily life rather than the result of going to the "right" place.

My inclination would be one of the dance clubs on Gongti Xilu (Worker's Stadium west road) like Cargo, Baby Face, Angel, or Coco Banana. Or maybe to Mics and Vics on Gongti Beilu. On the other hand, these places can be loud and difficult to strike up a conversation, especially in English.

Suzie Wong's might be better, but I think the girls in there tend to be looking for guys willing to spend major cash, even if they're not straight-up WGs, which some of them are.

What do others think?


Bowerboy,
The fact is, the legit scene here is pretty good, at least if you speak a bit of Chinese.

Leotak
05-04-09, 16:49
Hi Guys,

Have heard some real weird stories about Maggie's and it's closure of the bar. Saw the bar closed sometime in early April but don't know if it's still closed or not. Stories about closing because of found bodies of some monglians within their property and so on. Any info what's going on there?

Leo

TomFool
05-04-09, 17:46
I'm in beijing for a couple of weeks and want to check out the naked ktvs with someone. Anyone game? I need someone who knows the ropes. Are the ktvs here anything like the karoke in macau? Stunning lineup and straightforward, in other words, sex is clearly on the menu. Pm me.

Intransit
05-05-09, 00:52
Leotak,

RTFF. There is almost daily coverage of Maggie's on here. Read the most recent five pages and that should tell you everything you need to know.

Intransit
05-05-09, 00:58
Gaoshou,

I think all those places you mentioned work. I would add ladies' night at Tun on Fridays -- although it can be overrun with Caucasian desperados -- and LAN Club on weekends.

The stricture of speaking English is a tough one. I suggest you use one of your own regulars and ask her to bring a friend, otherwise it could be a long hunt.

What ever happened with your flight attendant?

Sammy_T
05-05-09, 04:08
I'm in beijing for a couple of weeks and want to check out the naked ktvs with someone. Anyone game? I need someone who knows the ropes. Are the ktvs here anything like the karoke in macau? Stunning lineup and straightforward, in other words, sex is clearly on the menu. Pm me.

No sex available inside the KTVs in Beijing, but take out is available. If you are looking for in-call venue then check out saunas.

Redcommi
05-05-09, 06:24
dear all,

been a young player compared to most of you, i do go out occasionally, perhaps not as frequent as some of you guys do, (but i do wish i could). long time viewer, first time contributor. i have been reading this blog for some time now and am very happy to see so much information that has been shared among the group. i have finally decided to take this opportunity to express some of my experiences in beijing and join your wonderful clan of beijing. as the rules of the network, i shall recommend a few places from my past experience before i present you all with another interesting topic to discuss, and perhaps assist me of. so i begin with some of my stories:

sauna: been a second generation chinese growing up in a foreign country, i have the privilege of speaking chinese and english with no accent whatsoever. this helps when you are going to some very local chinese sauna places, as i found that most good deal and cheap deals are presented after all to the local chinese, it is very hard to negotiate with the staffs when you don’t speak the language and of course, the staffs will try and rip you off once they see you as a foreigner. one of my of my nice experience of sauna is the da dong hai sauna located between the south east third ring road and the south east forth ring road. if you are coming from the cbd, or guomao (international trade centre), you would travel south on the 3rd ring road, until you pass hua wei qiao, turn left and its on your right hand side about 200 metres down. you cannot miss it as it is a big big square building with security guards on the road, typical chinese sauna look. once you’re in, get changed, have a shower and go up stairs to the 3rd and 4th level, where you will be greeted by staffs and i guess they will speak a little english, since i have been there 4 times, each time, i have all seen a few laowai faces, maybe russians, walking around naked also in the shower area. as usual, there are different types of massages; of course the most expensive on are the ones with extra services. they do not do full sex as far as i understand it, at least on your first visit. my first experience there was with an ethnic minority girl from yunnan, maybe a 9 out of 10, beautiful shape and wore a miniskirt. after a few chit-chat, she offered me upgrading to breast job. which just doubled my bill to around 700, normally, i don’t spend so much for a breast job, but this girl was so amazing in her skills, nice and slow, where she go to work all over your body and lick you over in and out. once she got me heated up, she had a very close look at my little brother and offered a blowjob for extra cast. at this point, my wallet started to shout out no in my head, so i just said maybe next time to her. she also says that it is their policies that she don’t offer everyone the same service, as some men are bit sick and while some are just too old or too degusting for her to service to. the service was so good, since there were no hurrying up or frequent change of tactics which really puts you off sometimes, she even ask you if the speed was good or how she can do it better. the entire service was like a nice cuisine where each dishes were served at the right time and in the right order. in the end, i shot so much and so far that it went right pass my head as i was laying there, which something never happened before. after she realize that i was from abroad, i managed to get a second shot without paying anything else, or perhaps she had that planed already in my cost. apparently, she says that she likes servicing me, since i was only in my 20s, compared to some of the old men that she sometimes hates. overall, that was one of my best breast jobs for a very long time, and imho, it was no less comparison to having sex. just before we finished, she gave me her number and told me to tell her when i am coming next as there maybe something else special. the important lesson that i have learnt out of all of my experiences with these spa sauna venues is that the cost will always be expensive compared to what you get outside as the sauna venue itself takes a big chuck. so even if the girl wants to do something different, they are powerless as they have already quoted the service to the management before the service start, the cost can only go up, and the management count the numbers of condoms that were returned to determined what sorts of service has been provided to the guest. so it is always better to meet someone nice at these places and then try to establish private connections if the girl likes you. after a few days, i tried to get her to come out, which she doesn’t denies, but say it has to be out of her work time, which is after 2am every night. so i went back again, but this time, i have brought my own condoms for just in case if i need them. long story short, she come on to me as soon as she saw me, this time she got completely naked, as she was still wearing her underwear last time, and started with a breast job. but before she start, i immediately asked her how much, and our arrangement was that i give her some cash and she will just quote one of the normal massages to the management. i asked her if she can do a bbbj and cum in her mouth which she denied first time that i met her, she can only do covered bj if she likes the customer. however, she agreed this time and said that she never had anyone cum in her mouth before, although i don’t believe it, but why do i care? so after a long breast and mouth game, she went serious and i did come in her mouth, after i finished, she started to chocked and cried. she was drinking my bottle of water that i had with me and washing her mouth over and over, and said again she had never let anyone cumed in her mouth. by looking at the pain that she was going thru, maybe it was the truth. as for second round, i didn’t know if i was going to get any sex as i know this place goes as far as bj, no sex was offered and turned down by the staffs as my first trip. but we ended up having full sex in all positions where i know she was actually enjoying rather than moaning along with the customer, and she was asking for a third round. really disappointed once i told it was enough for me for the 90 minutes treatment. this time, i paid her only 500 cash and she signed me a 90 minutes treatment where she says she will get 150. but she was happy as she said many times that i have asked her how much she want, she told me she has never done this with a customer before and any payment would be fined to her. so it seems that my second visit has paid back my first one with all costs added up to around 900, including the sauna services plus a nice buffet of foods. it was certainly worth it. unfortunately, this girl was leaving town for the may holiday and will be away for some time because her mum is sick. but the good thing was that during my visits to this place, i have met with some other girls and the looks of those girls, man, whoever was picking the girls out, have done their homeworks. tall, skinny, beautiful long legs in miniskirts. i am still having dreams about them!

on to my questions to all of you pros out there. recently, browsing thru the internet just to see if there are any real gold behind all the rubbish on the net, i come across with some girls that supposing to be working alone. i have find them over qq, which is the chinese version of oicq, but all of them offers 300-400 services and 800 overnight. but the thing that really bothered me was that they offered their services at their homes, and never come out even if you offer them extra cash. my concern is i know recently thru news, that the chinese terms of xian ren tiao has been happening, where the girl may lure you to their place and their other parties may enter the apartment while you are in the middle of your works, then they will blackmail you. all the girls that i have find have really nice looking photos and promised to greet you somewhere near their apartment and if it’s not her, just walk off. but the photos are very pretty and i just don’t understand why they are offering themselves as cheap 300-400 girls? do you think it’s a trap or treasure? although i know there must be some legitimate girls making their money this way, but what are some of the precautions that can test them? maybe go with a male partner as a backup and take turns doing the girl? which itself sounds like a good idea. i have been reading the forum, and had not seen much of these sorts of services been mentioned by the group, is this something we have overlooked? or is it something too doggie? your responses will be greatly appreciated!

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Redcommi
05-05-09, 08:03
dear all,

been a young player compared to most of you, i do go out occasionally, perhaps not as frequent as some of you guys do, (but i do wish i could). long time viewer, first time contributor. i have been reading this blog for some time now and am very happy to see so much information that has been shared among the group. i have finally decided to take this opportunity to express some of my experiences in beijing and join your wonderful clan of beijing. as the rules of the network, i shall recommend a few places from my past experience before i present you all with another interesting topic to discuss, and perhaps assist me of. so i begin with some of my stories:

sauna: been a second generation chinese growing up in a foreign country, i have the privilege of speaking chinese and english with no accent whatsoever. this helps when you are going to some very local chinese sauna places, as i found that most good deal and cheap deals are presented after all to the local chinese, it is very hard to negotiate with the staffs when you don’t speak the language and of course, the staffs will try and rip you off once they see you as a foreigner. one of my of my nice experience of sauna is the da dong hai sauna located between the south east third ring road and the south east forth ring road. if you are coming from the cbd, or guomao (international trade centre), you would travel south on the 3rd ring road, until you pass hua wei qiao, turn left and its on your right hand side about 200 metres down. you cannot miss it as it is a big big square building with security guards on the road, typical chinese sauna look. once you’re in, get changed, have a shower and go up stairs to the 3rd and 4th level, where you will be greeted by staffs and i guess they will speak a little english, since i have been there 4 times, each time, i have all seen a few laowai faces, maybe russians, walking around naked also in the shower area. as usual, there are different types of massages; of course the most expensive on are the ones with extra services. they do not do full sex as far as i understand it, at least on your first visit. my first experience there was with an ethnic minority girl from yunnan, maybe a 9 out of 10, beautiful shape and wore a miniskirt. after a few chit-chat, she offered me upgrading to breast job. which just doubled my bill to around 700, normally, i don’t spend so much for a breast job, but this girl was so amazing in her skills, nice and slow, where she go to work all over your body and lick you over in and out. once she got me heated up, she had a very close look at my little brother and offered a blowjob for extra cast. at this point, my wallet started to shout out no in my head, so i just said maybe next time to her. she also says that it is their policies that she don’t offer everyone the same service, as some men are bit sick and while some are just too old or too degusting for her to service to. the service was so good, since there were no hurrying up or frequent change of tactics which really puts you off sometimes, she even ask you if the speed was good or how she can do it better. the entire service was like a nice cuisine where each dishes were served at the right time and in the right order. in the end, i shot so much and so far that it went right pass my head as i was laying there, which something never happened before. after she realize that i was from abroad, i managed to get a second shot without paying anything else, or perhaps she had that planed already in my cost. apparently, she says that she likes servicing me, since i was only in my 20s, compared to some of the old men that she sometimes hates. overall, that was one of my best breast jobs for a very long time, and imho, it was no less comparison to having sex. just before we finished, she gave me her number and told me to tell her when i am coming next as there maybe something else special. the important lesson that i have learnt out of all of my experiences with these spa sauna venues is that the cost will always be expensive compared to what you get outside as the sauna venue itself takes a big chuck. so even if the girl wants to do something different, they are powerless as they have already quoted the service to the management before the service start, the cost can only go up, and the management count the numbers of condoms that were returned to determined what sorts of service has been provided to the guest. so it is always better to meet someone nice at these places and then try to establish private connections if the girl likes you. after a few days, i tried to get her to come out, which she doesn’t denies, but say it has to be out of her work time, which is after 2am every night. so i went back again, but this time, i have brought my own condoms for just in case if i need them. long story short, she come on to me as soon as she saw me, this time she got completely naked, as she was still wearing her underwear last time, and started with a breast job. but before she start, i immediately asked her how much, and our arrangement was that i give her some cash and she will just quote one of the normal massages to the management. i asked her if she can do a bbbj and cum in her mouth which she denied first time that i met her, she can only do covered bj if she likes the customer. however, she agreed this time and said that she never had anyone cum in her mouth before, although i don’t believe it, but why do i care? so after a long breast and mouth game, she went serious and i did come in her mouth, after i finished, she started to chocked and cried. she was drinking my bottle of water that i had with me and washing her mouth over and over, and said again she had never let anyone cumed in her mouth. by looking at the pain that she was going thru, maybe it was the truth. as for second round, i didn’t know if i was going to get any sex as i know this place goes as far as bj, no sex was offered and turned down by the staffs as my first trip. but we ended up having full sex in all positions where i know she was actually enjoying rather than moaning along with the customer, and she was asking for a third round. really disappointed once i told it was enough for me for the 90 minutes treatment. this time, i paid her only 500 cash and she signed me a 90 minutes treatment where she says she will get 150. but she was happy as she said many times that i have asked her how much she want, she told me she has never done this with a customer before and any payment would be fined to her. so it seems that my second visit has paid back my first one with all costs added up to around 900, including the sauna services plus a nice buffet of foods. it was certainly worth it. unfortunately, this girl was leaving town for the may holiday and will be away for some time because her mum is sick. but the good thing was that during my visits to this place, i have met with some other girls and the looks of those girls, man, whoever was picking the girls out, have done their homeworks. tall, skinny, beautiful long legs in miniskirts. i am still having dreams about them!

on to my questions to all of you pros out there. recently, browsing thru the internet just to see if there are any real gold behind all the rubbish on the net, i come across with some girls that supposing to be working alone. i have find them over qq, which is the chinese version of oicq, but all of them offers 300-400 services and 800 overnight. but the thing that really bothered me was that they offered their services at their homes, and never come out even if you offer them extra cash. my concern is i know recently thru news, that the chinese terms of xian ren tiao has been happening, where the girl may lure you to their place and their other parties may enter the apartment while you are in the middle of your works, then they will blackmail you. all the girls that i have find have really nice looking photos and promised to greet you somewhere near their apartment and if it’s not her, just walk off. but the photos are very pretty and i just don’t understand why they are offering themselves as cheap 300-400 girls? do you think it’s a trap or treasure? although i know there must be some legitimate girls making their money this way, but what are some of the precautions that can test them? maybe go with a male partner as a backup and take turns doing the girl? which itself sounds like a good idea. i have been reading the forum, and had not seen much of these sorts of services been mentioned by the group, is this something we have overlooked? or is it something too doggie? your responses will be greatly appreciated.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Sebastian My
05-05-09, 08:30
So I decide to go to Hollywood. I enter the first series of double doors and a man sitting at a table asks for 50 RMB. I hand him the money and receive a ticket. At the next set of doors are two men, one I hand the ticket to, the other opens the door for me.

Yes the price has gone up to RM50 to enter - this is to discourage the guys who only want to look, which is a common issue for the girls who work the bar.


One tall one keeps turning around and looking at me and me at her. I sat there wanting her to make the first move. Finally after a few more minutes of looking at me, I go over to were she is standing with some other girls.

The business model in Hollywood is you need to make the first move. I am assumming you are a laowai and the girl is not a local.


She can only speak enough English to get the deed done. Price, yes and no kind of stuff. She starts out at 1000, but I gently shake my head no, and tell her it is too much. I countered with 800 and asked her where to go. She said no to my price and said to her place. This my first time out for FS in China, so I was not interested in going somewhere I did know.

I have notice the price has risen, RM800 is reasonable. They do like to go to their place, normally it very safe - but I must admit I prefer my hotel room. But I have gone to several girls places in the past and had no issue - except getting interupted by a girl friend returning - but in the end I took both girls our for dinner later and had a good time regardless.


Cab driver says, “Hollywood Taxi, two hundred RMB”. Well it was either pay and play or no go. I already booked a room, so I paid the as---les.

This is a common issue. The girl has to use the hollywood taxi - or risk not being allowed back. I must admit the price is twice what I would expect. My strong advice is to give the girl you hotel card and room number and meet her 1 hour or later in the evening. Make sure you get a cell phone number and communicate via sms to verify the appointment.


She gets down on her knees and does something no chic has ever down to me, she smells Mr. Didi.

I have seen this smelling process before, for both sexes. The theory if if its smells bad its probably got a disease. For minor diseases this is probably accurate, but the really bad problems don't leave a smell.


Yea, I got her number.

This is key, get the number and just phone her in when you need her. The experience of going to Hollywood is not really pleasant. Its a bit better than picking up a SW, but that's all I can say in it favour. Unless you like western women its better to leave the place to the locals.

BionicMan
05-05-09, 09:24
No sex available inside the KTVs in Beijing, but take out is available. If you are looking for in-call venue then check out saunas.

Same I would say for Shangai, by personal experience.
In the best case scenario they can strip down for a few minutes or go topless, you can fondle them (and be groped), but not to be taken for granted.
It depends also on each establishment how they set the rules for the girls.
Since the recent "raids" (see Shangai forum), I think KTV get more strict on their own rules, to avoid troubles with LE.
At the end of the day their main purpose is to provide entertaninment (for those liking it that way), drinks, nice companions sitting aside you, some snacks and some kind of music.
Take out also tends to be expensive, girls not always do it (and often they are selective) and not necessarily you get much out of the take away, usually a LT, once she is in bed with you.
Those girls do not want to give their bodies much away, otherwise they'd go and work in a sauna or be an escort.
So when they do it their economical expectations are quite high (especially with foreigners, where you need to beat the language barrier by finding a KTV hostess that can speak some english, not so common).
It is not unusual to pay 2000RMB for a LT, even through the negotiation help of a local friend (who is supposed to know the business). This after you already paid for her "hostess" services at the KTV.
The fact is often you find some nice gems and after few hours with them, it is inevitable that little head prevails and you want to end up the meeting in a more intimate way and take advantage of the fact she has been ok and nice at the KTV (= on principle you have tested her)

Miclac
05-05-09, 10:47
I personally don't think Beijing is all that good. I don't find the women as attractive as Shanghai or Shenzhen. I guess it's a matter of personal taste, but I think for women Shenzhen or Shanghai is far better. I think the attitude in Beijing is just not that friendly. I would choose somewhere down south if it were just women as a consideration. Even if you do speak Chinese I don't think it's all that good here. I know some of these other guys have tons of experience and have their views so I would say weigh your own experience and tastes and the various opinions.


Dear Beijing Residents and Beijing Reulars, please help me.

I just came back from a look see trip to Beijing as I will be moving there for work. I did not see ANY attractive women there anywhere. It was really quite startling..the place seems completely devoid of good looking women. All I saw were drab women and oh how they seem to love those high waisted jeans. I was spending all my day times in a big office and even in that environment (100 plus girls) I did not see even 1 half decent girl. I didn’t check out the P4P scene as with prices starting at $120 and up (according to reports here and prices offered outside hotel) it is out of the question (I can afford it but refuse to pay that sort of money).

I then went from Beijing to Shenzen and that was MUCH more like the Asia I know and love…loads of really attractive girls everywhere and all wearing skimpy shorts or miniskirts…P4P starting at $20 and the girls were stunning.

Please gentleman can you let me know if I am missing something in Beijing or have misunderstood the place…it seems like being there will be just like being back in the real world ( I currently live in Bangkok). Really appreciate your thoughts as I have another job offer on the table that keeps me in Bangkok but with slightly less money than Beijing…right now I am scared of going to Beijing as it seems to be a barren wasteland as far as women are concerned…particularly normal everyday girls

Sammy_T
05-05-09, 11:03
Same I would say for Shangai,

I will add that full sex CAN be found at KTVs in Xian - I have been to several and they all seem to have a side room where "private" encounters can occure.

Sammy_T
05-05-09, 11:07
i had dinner with a chinese client last night, and he said he wanted to take me “someplace special”. we ended up in a non-descript building inside the 2nd ring road, and took the elevator down to b4. we then knocked on a locked, plain metal door. someone checked us out through a peep-hole, and then let us in. we did not call before arrival, but my friend was recognized by the manager. i am not sure if i would have gained access without him. i was the only westerner in the place (saw several other chinese guys sitting in a large foot-massage room), but i did not get the impression that i was not welcome. behind the door was a 5 star “sauna”. in a typical sauna there is a communal changing/bathing area, with the massage rooms on another level. in this case there was no common area, just individual rooms. upon entry we were shown 3 room types:

1200 rmb – same size as a standard hotel room, with king size bed and large bathroom
1500 rmb – double the size as the “standard” room, with a tub as well in the bathroom
1800 rmb – 2 level: sitting area and bathroom on first level same size as the medium room, and a king size bed on the 2nd level

this cost includes full service from one girl. you can have additional girls for 1000 rmb each. all of the rooms are well equipped with mirrors on the ceiling, ect. there is even a closet that contains various costumes for the girls. my friend and i had planned to meet after 90 minutes, and at no point was i rushed. i am sure there was a time limit, but i was the one who ended the session, not the girl. we arrived at 11 pm on a monday, and were presented with a line-up of only 3 girls. my friend said that such a limited selection was unusual, and the manager apoligized for having so few girls. on the plus side all three were young (early 20s), and cute, as well as well endowed. i chatted with them and settled upon a girl from sichuan.

once the selection process was complete we got down to business. the door was shut and locked (there was no window in the door like most sauna places), and we both stripped down. move to the bathroom shower area where she soaped up my entire body and gave me a good washing and soapy massage, along with a lot of playful fun. then to the bed where she provided the works: cat bath, covered fire and ice blowjob, body on body massage, and then multiple positions. she made a lot of porn-star sounds that were a bit too much for my tastes, but she did have a great “fu*k me” me look. once complete she continued with a straight massage, and i think i could have had a second round, had i not been visited earlier in the evening by one of our northern sisters : )

all in all a good, albeit an expensive, experience. i have a name card, but it only has the manager’s name and mobile number on it – no address. no english was spoken, so you would need basic mandarin language skills, or take a mandarin speaking friend with you. happy to pass along contact details to people in-the-loop.

sammy

BionicMan
05-05-09, 13:35
I will add that full sex CAN be found at KTVs in Xian - I have been to several and they all seem to have a side room where "private" encounters can occure.
That's a good news...:)
You should post it in the Xi'an board...maybe with some indication to guide fellow mongerers.
As mentioned elsewhere you will not reveal a big secret...to LE, but a good one to bro's!:)

Sammy_T
05-05-09, 14:53
That's a good news...:)
You should post it in the Xi'an board...maybe with some indication to guide fellow mongerers.
As mentioned elsewhere you will not reveal a big secret...to LE, but a good one to bro's!:)Below is a link to my origional post on the Xian board:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=509130&highlight=sammy#post509130

The post is a little dated (from 2006), but I travel to Xian often and have not been to a KTV yet that did not have a private room. I visited the exact KTV in the post a couple of months ago, and it is still business as usual.

Good Luck!

Intransit
05-05-09, 22:44
Was at the Den in the small hours of Wednesday morning, and besides the tranny crowd that sits near the bar, many of the smokingest hottest Maggie's regulars were there, would have been easy to negotiate a discount as they were getting no attention from the football crowd. Could be worth hitting the Den late for a discount after the ladies move on from Maggie's.

Pier20
05-06-09, 03:54
On to my questions to all of you pros out there. Recently, browsing thru the internet just to see if there are any real gold behind all the rubbish on the net, I come across with some girls that supposing to be working alone. I have find them over qq, which is the Chinese version of oicq, but ALL of them offers 300-400 services and 800 overnight. But the thing that really bothered me was that they offered their services at their homes, and never come out even if you offer them extra cash. My concern is I know recently thru news, that the Chinese terms of Xian Ren Tiao has been happening, where the girl may lure you to their place and their other parties may enter the apartment while you are in the middle of your works, then they will blackmail you. All the girls that I have find have really nice looking photos and promised to greet you somewhere near their apartment and if it’s not her, just walk off. But the photos are very pretty and I just don’t understand why they are offering themselves as cheap 300-400 girls? Do you think it’s a trap or treasure? Although I know there must be some legitimate girls making their money this way, but what are some of the precautions that can test them? Maybe go with a male partner as a backup and take turns doing the girl? Which itself sounds like a good idea. I have been reading the forum, and had not seen much of these sorts of services been mentioned by the group, is this something we have overlooked? Or is it something too doggie? Your responses will be greatly appreciated.

I\'ve tried this service several times and had never safety issues. Price is as quoted, 300-400 / 800. Most of times, girls are different from pic, but I happened to get the same as the pic also. I guess they invite you to their home for safety reasons: they are independant girls usually living at 2 in the same appartment. I have a regular (and now friend) that I found through this chanel. One important point if you are foreigner: make it clear wether they accept it or not when you chat on QQ, I have once been refused because of this reason (and my supposely big DD)

Monomi
05-07-09, 14:43
Why has no one gone to chocolate? It's FULL of WGs. For god's sake people, get out a little.

Check City weekend for address.

Intransit
05-07-09, 18:45
Monomi,

Yeah? Did you take any out?

Sebastian My
05-07-09, 23:54
Why has no one gone to chocolate? It's FULL of WGs. For god's sake people, get out a little.

Check City weekend for address.

While accurate, this place is similar to absentia - or even treasure island - so it takes a bit of effort to make contact with a suitable service provider. If you know hollywood - its diagonally across the intersection. Das Vidania tovarich.

Sammy_T
05-08-09, 05:44
Why has no one gone to chocolate? It's FULL of WGs. For god's sake people, get out a little.

Check City weekend for address.Monomi -

Ever since the Olympic crack down a majority of specific venue names in Beijiing are exchanged via PM. I am sure most of the Beijing regulars are familiar with Chocolate (and now I guess so is everyone else). It is currently the "hot" Russian club, and operates similar to Absentia (as pointed out by Sebastian My). It has received some coverage in the expat press, so it also is frequented by those not interested in our hobby. This should be taken into account if you are afraid of running into people you may know from work.

I suggest you pay the $20 and become a "senior member" so you can have access to the PM function. Having read your previous posts I would be happy to share information with you.

I hate the fact that we must operate this way, but it has been confirmed that at least prior to the olympics this message board was monitored by law enforcement.

Sammy

Thomas Jefferson
05-10-09, 10:58
Regulars to maggies please corrcet me if I write something wrong.

1. I pm some regulars of the beijing forum, did not get any answers about my requests of beijing infos, even is said "please". So I went out by myself.

2. I don't really care if LE reading this formum or not, they know what is going on anyway, there are no really secret places for them here.

Ok, went ot maggies yesterday night around 2330h. The location is at ritan park, south entrance, ? , at GUANGHAU ROAD, ? , all the emabassies are around there. You may enter, no entrance fee or cover charge etc.

Girls alone may not enter. Sometimes girls waiting outside, they need man to bring them in. Do them a favour and just bring one ore two in. No need to stick with them later once inside.

Inside is a bar in the center, more in the back is a dancefloor and in the end is a pool table. Yesterday it was full and lots of girls. Some really sexy, some really not my style. Russians, mongolians and Chinese.

Drinks are not too cheap, a beer is 40 rmb, softdrink 30, other I don't know.

I tried the clubsandwich, 40rmb which was very good, came with french fries.

Inside, there are two kind of girls. First the "drink girls". They stay with you, talking, joking and DRINKING, and you need to pay. It is their job, to keep you drinking. You can find these girls with a "meggies" nametag at their jacket.

Second are the WGs. Just smile at one, she will come to you at once, if she doesn't have another man at the moment.

You can chat with them, invite her for a drink or come strait to the point and bring her to you place.

If you want to stay alone, nobody will bother you too much.

I eventually met one mongolian girl (forgot her name), 24 years, ca. 160, very slim, cute face. It was getting late, (after 2 oclock) so I did not chat tooooo much. She wanted 1200rmb for short time, but I offered 600rmb which she at once accepted. Outside taxis waiting, we took the first one and 15rmb later we stopped at my hotel. We had a good time. Shower together, good sex, BBBJ, sex with condom of course, many positions, dfk, the whole program.

After I came, we washed, and I thought after more than one hour she will go home now, but she laid down on my bed, started playing with herself and said, that she is still hot and need it again, ups, this never happend to me before, but ok. Another hour followed at no extra charge.

Hope this helps some newbies to beijing, like myself. Have fun and report.

Thomas Jefferson

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Thomas Jefferson
05-11-09, 14:49
I tried lily yesterday night and must say, best outcall I ever hat in China. Not too much english spoken, but ok to make everything clear.

500 for one hour massage and FS, after 30min a small cute beijing girl 22 years came, we took shower, massage and great sex, GFE. She stayed total around 90 min.

Took some fotos of her, will post next week, when back home. Nothing to complain. Honest service. RTFF really helps. Hahaha.

Tried the craiglist, one girl quoted 600 "full service". When she came to my hotel I wanted to make sure what she means with full service. She said, fully naked massage with handjob.

Haha, I gave her 20rmb for the taxi and byebye. She wasnt too pretty either.

Ok, I will move to shanghai now and will add my reports there.

Thomas Jefferson


Arrived Beijing yesterday and staying at Westin. Called my usual contact Lily and asked for a girl to come to my hotel room. After 30 minutes, a petite Chengdu girl came. Her name is Wang Yan.

Damage: RMB 500 plus RMB 100 transport
Looks: body 7.5 face 7
Attitude 8: give the girlfriend feeling
Performance: unrushed, 2 hr sesson with message, BJ and FS.

A good source for girls if you prefer room service. Lily can be contacted at: 13552885100, 13810871568.

Sammy_T
05-12-09, 03:47
Stopped by The Pig last night and there were about 20 Chinese girls, but no one to write home about. Popped into Maggie's and it was dead. Spoke to the staff and learned that Bar One (behind Hilton hotel) is now closed - the owner got tired of throwing good money after bad.

One has to wonder if this is a sign of things to come...

Sammy

Intransit
05-12-09, 05:17
As far as Intransit is concerned, Chocolate is now a tourist destination. Took a VIP over there Friday night, and no kidding, a group of 13 civilians, male and female, walked in ahead of us. We got to the bottom of the escalator, turned around and walked back up.

Maggie's, on the other hand, provided everything we needed. The VIP was not at liberty to get take out, but the Maggie's hostesses and other girls showed him a good time and he walked out very, very happy. It may not be what it once was, but it's still a good time.

Thanks TJ for the outcall tip, expect that Jackson will delete those numbers at some point as per ISG policy.

Lumpi 777
05-12-09, 08:52
I tried lily yesterday night and must say, best outcall I ever hat in China. Not too much english spoken, but ok to make everything clear.

500 for one hour massage and FS, after 30min a small cute beijing girl 22 years came, we took shower, massage and great sex, GFE. She stayed total around 90 min.

Took some fotos of her, will post next week, when back home. Nothing to complain. Honest service. RTFF really helps. Hahaha.

Tried the craiglist, one girl quoted 600 "full service". When she came to my hotel I wanted to make sure what she means with full service. She said, fully naked massage with handjob.

Haha, I gave her 20rmb for the taxi and byebye. She wasnt too pretty either.

Ok, I will move to shanghai now and will add my reports there.

Thomas JeffersonI'am in Beijing in June. Would like to try out Lily as well.

Do you mean Liliy Massage?

Thanks

Thomas Jefferson
05-12-09, 12:37
Did the same service the last night again. A cute girl 22, from sichuan came, same good service, GFE, the whole programm no rushing at all.

500rmb + taximoney

These girls are very serviceorientated, funny, like to joke. I also did a few fotos from this one. Once back home I will post them. They like to pose, first a bit shy than they see the fotos and the really want have a nice one. But some will not want naked fotos. Ask them politely and don't push them if they don't like. You will get nice fotos for your holiday foto book. Haha

Did not know, those telefone numbers must not be posted. If the will be deleted, no problem, please pm me, I will share.

Thomas Jefferson


I tried lily yesterday night and must say, best outcall I ever hat in China. Not too much english spoken, but ok to make everything clear.

500 for one hour massage and FS, after 30min a small cute beijing girl 22 years came, we took shower, massage and great sex, GFE. She stayed total around 90 min.

Took some fotos of her, will post next week, when back home. Nothing to complain. Honest service. RTFF really helps. Hahaha.

Tried the craiglist, one girl quoted 600 "full service". When she came to my hotel I wanted to make sure what she means with full service. She said, fully naked massage with handjob.

Haha, I gave her 20rmb for the taxi and byebye. She wasnt too pretty either.

Ok, I will move to shanghai now and will add my reports there.

Thomas Jefferson

Wordwiz
05-12-09, 17:05
I don't post much but I wanted to comment on Lilly as well. My last trip to Beijing I also used them. Without question the two times that I used them were great. I had a fabulous girl from sichuan, the best I ever had. Go for it guys.

Makeupaname
05-13-09, 03:20
Went to Maggies on Thursday night, April 30. Arrived at midnight. Checked to see if any girls need an escort inside but didn't see any. There were more guys than girls. Only spotted a few monglians. Did a quick round the bar, not much to see but I like the fact the drink girls now wear name tags.

ended up near the DJ. Met Y**y**, she did not look like a typical chinese, bigger than average, was 1.72m and about 60+kg. nice tight stripped dress & sexy dancer. I could not hear where she said she was from but did not have a mongolian accent. saved her from a drunk dancer. then i got some thumbs up from some american tourists at the bar that seemed amazed to see an actual hooker. asked her how much for LT, 1500RMB, confirmed that she would stay till morning. I didnt feel like haggling and there were not many other choices in the place. I wanted to get out of there quickly so would have lots of time together. Out the door by 12:300

performance ok. bbbj, very good cowgirl. after a short rest round 2. in the morning round 3 was not as good due to excessive use of lubrication.

i would repeat with her but only at a lower price.

Member #4643
05-13-09, 06:18
Does anyone have experience with this masseuse? http://www.melissaformassage.com.cn

I believe she would give a great massage and wonderful special services, but if any one knows about her, I would like to know as well.

Incidentally, she advertises that she translates for businessmen and can arrange (under the category of Business Translation), "Arranging you the local apartment pay by hours." Can one of you China regulars comment on this? Is this for business people who need a private place for sex?

I am thinking of hiring her for a few days when I visit this summer. Any thoughts on what I should offer her for her company, and occasional massage and her special services?

Thanks F

WooVictor
05-13-09, 07:57
I reported on the Jinsha (Golden Sand) Spa Club on Garden Road in Haidian, behind the Mudan (or Peony) Hotel, last October. As I said, different services were available. You could have a professional spa treatment with absolutely no hanky-panky. Or else, you could go to another section (floor? I’m not too sure) for a massage with a handjob. However, I was able to persuade my girl into sex that time, having brought a condom into the room in advance.

I was in Beijing again at the end of April, and decided to try Jinsha again. Although it’s a pricy establishment, I like it because it is nicely decorated and very clean. At the same time, it positions itself as a family establishment – men, women and children are all admitted. Indeed, I saw two kids, both under 10, running around the shower area naked.

After I entered the building, the receptionist introduced me to a new service called “Royal Life Maintenance” for one-and-a-half hours, with a price tag of 800 yuan. That seemed reasonable, given that a two-session handjob (total time also one-and-a-half hours) cost me nearly 900 yuan last October (there was a 388 room charge), before the 500 yuan tip that I gave my girl for sex. According to the receptionist, the special thing about this “Royal” treatment is that only seven girls were qualified to do it, and each had a specially decorated room.

I took off my shoes and put on a pair of slippers at the reception counter, and was led upstairs to the men’s shower area. I undressed and locked up my stuff in the locker, then proceeded to have a quick shower. After I put on the silly looking pajamas (consisting of a pullover and a pair of shorts that went all the way down to below my knees), I was led through the restaurant (it was about 4:30pm, and few customers were around) and then down a corridor where I could see several doors on one side (the other side appeared to be the stage and backstage area of the restaurant). The waitress who led the way knocked on room 301, and my masseuse opened the door to admit me.

The room was arranged more or less like a regular hotel room, with a toilet near the entrance (but no shower facility). Inside, the room was a double bed (much lower than a normal bed, but a bit higher than a Thai massage bed) which faced a TV set that sat against the wall. Again, it was a very beautifully appointed room, with a hint of Thailand. On the walls and next to the TV were several photos big and small, including a poster right above the bed. I took a closer look and found that they were the photos of my masseuse.

My girl confirmed that those were indeed her own photos, and that she paid for them out of her own pocket. Her last name was Ning, and she came from western Guangdong but grew up in Hunan. Our subsequent conversations therefore alternated between putonghua and Cantonese. She was in her mid-20s, tall and slender, her face wasn’t that pretty but okay. She was wearing long gown with a deep V-cut that revealed part of her bra.

I wasn’t really sure what to expect out of this service, and so allowed her to direct me. She first took off my pullover, and told me to lie on the bed face down. Then she got her gears on the bed, took her gown off, revealing a decent pair of tits hidden in her bra and a pair of tight, long lacy underwear that fully covered her ass and the top half of her thighs. She got on bed behind me, and then pulled my shorts off. My hopes were raised.

She started with a very good, forceful and yet erotic massage, initially using her hands but later she would use her tits, her thighs, her entire body, her ass and even her crotch. (Yes, after I flipped over, with my dick pointing at the ceiling, she straddled me, with her panties on, and started rubbing my dick against her pussy). It was a great and enjoyable massage, clearly one of the best I’d ever had. Before too long, my hands were wandering all over her, but she refused to take her panties off. After much negotiation, she agreed to do a BBBJ CIM in the nude, for the cost of an extra session.

Her oral skills were indeed very good, and it was done leisurely as we had almost two hours ahead of us. Of course I couldn’t have endured her assault for two hours, but it was a thoroughly enjoyable shot. I was also allowed to caress her ****, but not finger fuck her.

Total damage was a bit over 1,600 yuan for more than two hours of fun. Pretty expensive indeed, but the whole environment was very nice and comfortable. I was completely relaxed – there was no need to be nervous about any security and hygiene problems. For that, I’m willing to pay extra.

Boulayman
05-18-09, 03:49
Ok, completely new to the scene

I am pretty young (mid twenties) and have been spending a month in beijing (still 2 weeks to go).

Based on the forum's recommendations, I went to a massage parlor a couple of days ago: regencia (or something like that). I got to choose between two options: VIP for 1550 and regular for 1150. As I kind of remembered the VIP was the one that included FS, I went with that one. I didn't get to choose anyone. They brought me a fairly attractive lady (but in her thirties, huge breasts and some fat (that I couldn’t see while she was still wearing something) . Not too much but was there. They told me she was the one who provided the best service there. I wasn't really attracted to her but she looked decent and I figured for a first time I might as well go for a not so attractive one to control myself better. She was obviously very eager and pretty much jumped me as soon as the other people were out of that very impressive room.

The shower part was okay I guess, her breasts were so fake it was funny. Her massaging skills were amazing though. Wow at how she used her tongue when going all over my body. And she really is a magician with her hands. As for the sex, it was pretty awkward. She was very impressed by my penis size so I was pretty afraid to hurt her and couldn't get a nice rythm going. Anyone got a couple of recommendations about how to minimize that problem? I could have kept going all day long since I barely got any sensation from her. Enough to keep the hard on but far from being enough for coming. She didn't let me kiss her but seemed to really want the CL. Frankly I was just going through the motions. We were running out of time so she finished me by hand and well she didn't really do such a good job. I had such a hard time making myself come that I closed my eyes and just started picturing Megan Fox from transformers. And even that could have failed me since from time to time she squeezed the tip far too hard. In the end I could do it.

I believe her number is 69.

Regencia rating:

service (as in massaging room ) 8/10. The place is very nice and high class but the massage table is pretty small for sex so it wasn’t very confortable.
cost 5 (got there at 4, we stopped at 515)
location 7. The taxi had a hard time finding the place
sex 3
massage 10
fellatio 8-9. She wasn't so good for that but she used some lotions that gave very fresh sensations
safety 10. Used a condom without me asking and put it on my little friend very skillfully

So yeah, that's pretty much it.

I was considering calling that lily person or whatever to have her send some nice company for the night.

As I am sharing the room with a friend, I am going to get another room for a night in the same hotel I guess (I am not sure how I can do that. How I could explain why I want a second room in the same hotel. I don’t think they will ask for explanations though, it costs 580 rmb for the cheapest one (twin beds), 780 rmb for a business one (not sure what the difference is) ) so I was wondering how I get in touch with that person, if she speaks english, what I should tell her to get me to send the most attractive ones (I would really like a young slender, cute one, not short with beautiful long black hair and not fake breasts), what kind of price am I looking at if I want company for the whole night. About the hotel situation, I really don't know how girl friendly mine is. It's called High tech mansion.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294212-d619910-Reviews-High_Tech_Mansion_BUPT-Beijing.html

I suspect it is QUITE girl friendly as there is a pretty wild karaoke on the second, third floor. I went there once, ended up paying quite a lot of money for two hostesses and only got some groping going with one of them (the other one looked like a cow but spoke some English… very little though). I am pretty sure I could have gotten some French kissing, fellatio from the cute one but I really don’t know what kind of money I should be giving her for that or even how to say it. They had a sort of dress code. The ones I spent most of the evening out wore red. At some point, some girl who wore black came in, I was very drunk by then and I have no idea why she wanted 200 RMB but she wanted it and was introduced as a friend of the red ones. Then I was approached by a very slutty looking girl that barely spoke any English and wore white. The red wearing girls kept asking me where my hotel room was. I am not sure what they wanted though. The white wearing one threw her breasts at my face for like 30 seconds and then left. I kinda feel she’s the one supposed to accompany guests to their hotel rooms after the evening. I wasn’t interested since
-1: I share my room with a friend
-2: She wasn’t hot. Huge breasts though that felt pretty good but I am not into big breasts at all.
They kicked me out at midnight, it was pretty funny though to see those four girls accompany me to the elevator. I had gotten there around 830. Got started at 900 since they were VERY surprised to see a foreigner and couldn’t figure out what the hell I was doing here. I ended up in a karaoke room where they sent those two girls to me. In another room I saw some other (hotter girls) being paraded for three Chinese guys but I didn’t get to choose mine. I don’t mind that much since one was really nice, thin and with long hair. The other one was basically a cow but could sing well.

All in all, I paid 500 for a LOT of beers, 400 for the two hostesses, 200 to the waiter, 200 to the friend (I have no idea why I paid that money tbf). I also gave 200 to the hot hostess at some point for being pretty. She was surprised and asked me what I wanted her to do for it but I just told her I was giving her money because she was pretty. I also gave 100 to the ugly one for singing well. I was so drunk that I ended up throwing up when back to my room. A Lot. So I paid a shitload of money for basically no action Would anyone know what kind of behaviour, words I should use if I ever go back again to at least get some French kissing, bj going and to get to choose my girls? I figured I might have gotten there a bit too early.

In any case, that’s the reason why I figure that hotel is pretty girl friendly. At worst, they will mistake the girl for someone working in that 2nd, 3rd floor.

So in a word, I was pretty much had for the first two experiences. More important to me are my earlier question about that lily person: how do I get in touch with her, when should I call her, does she speak english and what kind of price should a whole evening cost me and do her girls kiss ? Oh and where to buy some good condoms here. I still carry around one I have from Canada but well, it won’t be enough for a whole night of fun for sure so I need to restock.

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Drhhh
05-18-09, 19:37
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Thomas Jefferson
05-18-09, 20:01
Ok, just call "Lily". There is always someone who can speak a little bit english. Short time is rmb 500, long time must negotiate. Should not be more then around 1000rmb.

If the girls like you they will kiss you, of course.

Condoms can buy in any family mart, they have plenty all sizes.

Thomas Jefferson


So in a word, I was pretty much had for the first two experiences. More important to me are my earlier question about that lily person: how do I get in touch with her, when should I call her, does she speak english and what kind of price should a whole evening cost me and do her girls kiss ? Oh and where to buy some good condoms here. I still carry around one I have from Canada but well, it won’t be enough for a whole night of fun for sure so I need to restock.

Gaoshou
05-19-09, 07:49
This report made my day. Hilarious!

Boulayman, it's hard to know where to even begin giving you specific advice. But you clearly have the right attitude and a healthy sense of the absurd, so I believe you will learn from this experience and move onward and upward.

KTVs are generally for group outings - going alone is likely to be frustrating and expensive. I am also in my 20s and learned this lesson by spending an awkward evening alone in a KTV in my earlier mongering days.

Also, it's almost ALWAYS ok to refuse the first provider offered and ask to see someone different. It's natural they would start out by seeing if you'll accept the lowest quality merchandise before offering the good stuff.

Try a BBS or massage parlor. You can be assured of getting action there, as long as you're not shy about asking for what you want (hand motions generally suffice, if you can't speak Chinese.


Ok, completely new to the scene

I am pretty young (mid twenties) and have been spending a month in beijing (still 2 weeks to go).

The shower part was okay I guess, her breasts were so fake it was funny. Her massaging skills were amazing though. Wow at how she used her tongue when going all over my body. And she really is a magician with her hands. As for the sex, it was pretty awkward. [...] I had such a hard time making myself come that I closed my eyes and just started picturing Megan Fox from transformers. And even that could have failed me since from time to time she squeezed the tip far too hard. In the end I could do it.

I believe her number is 69.

I suspect it is QUITE girl friendly as there is a pretty wild karaoke on the second, third floor. I went there once, ended up paying quite a lot of money for two hostesses and only got some groping going with one of them (the other one looked like a cow but spoke some English… very little though). I am pretty sure I could have gotten some French kissing, fellatio from the cute one but I really don’t know what kind of money I should be giving her for that or even how to say it. They had a sort of dress code. The ones I spent most of the evening out wore red. At some point, some girl who wore black came in, I was very drunk by then and I have no idea why she wanted 200 RMB but she wanted it and was introduced as a friend of the red ones. Then I was approached by a very slutty looking girl that barely spoke any English and wore white. The red wearing girls kept asking me where my hotel room was. I am not sure what they wanted though. The white wearing one threw her breasts at my face for like 30 seconds and then left. I kinda feel she’s the one supposed to accompany guests to their hotel rooms after the evening.
[...]
They kicked me out at midnight, it was pretty funny though to see those four girls accompany me to the elevator. I had gotten there around 830. Got started at 900 since they were VERY surprised to see a foreigner and couldn’t figure out what the hell I was doing here. I ended up in a karaoke room where they sent those two girls to me. In another room I saw some other (hotter girls) being paraded for three Chinese guys but I didn’t get to choose mine. I don’t mind that much since one was really nice, thin and with long hair. The other one was basically a cow but could sing well.

All in all, I paid 500 for a LOT of beers, 400 for the two hostesses, 200 to the waiter, 200 to the friend (I have no idea why I paid that money tbf). I also gave 200 to the hot hostess at some point for being pretty. She was surprised and asked me what I wanted her to do for it but I just told her I was giving her money because she was pretty. I also gave 100 to the ugly one for singing well. I was so drunk that I ended up throwing up when back to my room. A Lot. So I paid a shitload of money for basically no action Would anyone know what kind of behaviour, words I should use if I ever go back again to at least get some French kissing, bj going and to get to choose my girls? I figured I might have gotten there a bit too early.

In any case, that’s the reason why I figure that hotel is pretty girl friendly. At worst, they will mistake the girl for someone working in that 2nd, 3rd floor.

So in a word, I was pretty much had for the first two experiences. More important to me are my earlier question about that lily person: how do I get in touch with her, when should I call her, does she speak english and what kind of price should a whole evening cost me and do her girls kiss ? Oh and where to buy some good condoms here. I still carry around one I have from Canada but well, it won’t be enough for a whole night of fun for sure so I need to restock.

Gaoshou
05-19-09, 08:50
In case anyone cares, here is the next installment in the saga of the virgin stewardess previously re-counted here http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=826164#post826164, here http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=839403#post839403, and here http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=823154#post823154

Following the spate of thoughtful advice I received from the ISG team in response to my earlier posts, I told the stewardess, the next time she called, that while I thought she was cute as a button, "I think you are too innocent for me, and I don't want to hurt you." She said something like, "Are you saying you don't want to see me again?" and I said, "Yeah, I guess I am saying that." She responded huffily, saying, "Fine! I'll never call you again. I'm erasing your number" and demanding that I erase hers too.

I thought that was the end of it until about a 4-6 weeks later when I received the following heartbreakingly cute message:


想你了~~~~~后悔把你号码删掉,那天我找到一个号码,我发了条讯息过去,也不知道是不是你的 我最近飞的很开心,这些都是最近的照片啦^^*
你一定要看到这封邮件噢^^我可爱的[Chinese name redacted]
Translation

I miss you again ~~~~~ regret erasing your phone number. The other day I found a number, sent a message over, but I don't know if it was yours or not. Recently I've been flying very happily. Here are some recent pictures of me, la! ^^* You will definitely see this message^^my dear [Chinese name redacted]

When I saw that, I just couldn't resist responding. I kept it pretty light - nothing too intimate or loving - but it was more than enough to renew her hopes. Since then we've maintained periodic phone and SMS communication, but haven't seen each other again. Just receiving her cute pictures always brightened my day, but I was still afraid of taking things further, so I was content instead to let them drift.

Chinese airlines are really hurting right now. She wasn't laid off but has recently been flying only 2-3 days per week. Two weeks ago she called me during the day and said she was going to her provincial home for a few weeks and would be passing through the city the following Friday before leaving town (she lives out by the airport most of the time). She wanted to know if I would be around. I received her call unexpectedly during the work day, and I was pre-occupied, and also our phone connection was poor, and her plans all seemed rather vague and tentative. I forgot about our conversation rather quickly and went back to work. Later I made plans to meet some other friends that Friday.

I thought she had said she MIGHT come over if she finished dinner at a reasonable hour but that she would call in advance to confirm. Then on Friday night, just as I was heading out, she called me and said she was on her way! I told her I was really sorry, that I had apparently misunderstood her before, but I was about to leave my place and couldn't receive her. She very hurt and sent me this message:


对你好失望。。。原来我是对你那么不重要 请你以后方了我 我不想让自己不开心

Translation

I'm so disappointed in you ... I've always been this unimportant to you. Please give me up from now on. I don't want to make myself unhappy.

I felt bad, but at the same time thought it might be good for her to get the idea that she shouldn't rely on me. I wrote back:


对不起. 你现在知道我就是那种不靠铺的人. 我喜欢你不想你受伤所以你应该了解这一点
Translation

I'm sorry. Now you know I'm just that kind of unreliable person. I like you and don't want you to get hurt so you should understand this point

To me this seemed like a way of establishing some distance, while trying to spare her feelings. But she took it in the opposite way. I can't seem to find the message, but she replied something like:


我会让你变的靠铺. 我也很喜欢你, 我亲亲的[Chinese name redacted]Translation

I will make you become more reliable. I like you too. The message included another adorable photo.

Since then it's been a slough of messages with more cute (completely non-sexual) photos and saying how she misses me and how she mentioned be to her grandmother in Shandong.

I'm still in my 20s but consider myself rather cynical about love. Still, I continue to be amazed about how girls can form attachments like this. I've seen this girl in person only 2-3 times. We mainly just Holding hands, cuddling on my sofa, some light kissing, and a smattering of breast fondling is all we've done.

Long story short, despite my efforts (not necessarily my BEST efforts, but efforts nonetheless) to let her down easy, I seem to be more deeply entangled than ever. This girl has a sweet smile, a very cute way of talking, and would be considered a catch in China, since she's very tall. But I just don't see any way that this can end well.

(I'd post a photo, but I can't figure out how to download the photos from my phone. I can extract the text messages just fine, but the photo messages stay on the phone even when everything else has been transferred off.)

Mike B
05-19-09, 12:33
But I just don't see any way that this can end well.Easy. Just stop responding to her.

Bad Boy Billy
05-19-09, 23:02
I'm still in my 20s..............Going on 8 I would suggest.

Billy's advice - 'grow the fuck up'.

Your experience is no different to what millions of guys all around the world encounter regularly - if she won't let you fuck her - move on.

If you wanna marry this w.h.o.r.e do so - then post some pics of her on the wedding night.

Any other members actually have any info on activities of w.h.o.r.e.s in Beijing right now rather than this childish drivel?

World Guy Sh
05-21-09, 15:56
I seem to be more deeply entangled than ever.Gaoshou,

This is not Mills & Boon. Big advice: move on. There are plenty of others. Both for her. And you

She's playing you.

WGS

Virginboy
05-21-09, 17:37
I am attending an event in the JW Marriot hotel in Beijing this week. This evening, I found this website [Link deleted by Admin] after doing a google search.

[Link deleted by Admin] is blocked in China, so you will need to use proxy websites like www.zend2.com to get access to this site.

I have tried for in-house massage many times in the past. Decided to call this number to ask for a girl to be sent to my room. Angel can speak simple English and very polite. Her explanation is very clear and concise. She charges RMB 600 for a 2 hours massage including special. If however I don't like the girl, I just need to pay her taxi fare, and Angel can arrange for a replacement. After 30 minutes, a pretty girl came to my room. Not very tall, about 1.58m, but with very smooth and fair skin. She seems shy at first but after chatting a little bit she asked me what service I wanted - nice.. play innocent? We took a shower together and I started the action, started caressing her etc. Once we are on the bed the action started. She loves to be painted and fingered.. she came twice. Later on she showed me the bite marks on her arm, she did that to prevent herself from screaming. The FJ was excellent, she is willing to try different positions. After about 2-hours of fun.. I'm spent. When she left she didn't ask for a tip or taxi fare but I gave her extra anyway - well worth it. The number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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Sebastian My
05-22-09, 05:24
In case anyone cares, here is the next installment in the saga of the virgin stewardess
Good lord what an epic tale. Can i suggest you watch the whole 5 seasons of 2 and a half men - i feel you will get some good advice from the show which may assist you.

Virginboy
05-22-09, 05:31
Glad to hear that you have an enjoyable time!


I tried lily yesterday night and must say, best outcall I ever hat in China. Not too much english spoken, but ok to make everything clear.

500 for one hour massage and FS, after 30min a small cute beijing girl 22 years came, we took shower, massage and great sex, GFE. She stayed total around 90 min.

Took some fotos of her, will post next week, when back home. Nothing to complain. Honest service. RTFF really helps. Hahaha.

Tried the craiglist, one girl quoted 600 "full service". When she came to my hotel I wanted to make sure what she means with full service. She said, fully naked massage with handjob.

Haha, I gave her 20rmb for the taxi and byebye. She wasnt too pretty either.

Ok, I will move to shanghai now and will add my reports there.

Thomas Jefferson

Bad Boy Billy
05-22-09, 08:36
first apology to all you guys for posting this report so late.

second apology to sammy t for not spending sufficient time with him on my recent visit. sammy you know i love you – but i love w.h.o.r.e.s more.

third apology to intransit for leaving him stranded at the bar in maggies on thursday may 30 – we had met at maggies as agreed and were indulging in an in-depth / intelligent conversation when i suddenly up and left due to finally clinching a deal with a w.h.o.r.e whom i had been trying to fuck for 3 days.

fourth apology to zhuren whom i did not even get to meet this visit as he was in the taxi on the way to maggies as i left with the w.h.o.r.e after abandoning intransit.

guys i know you all understand – w.h.o.r.e.s come and go – but mates should stick together – again i apologise.

now to the serious stuff – reporting on w.h.o.r.e activity and w.h.o.r.e locations in beijing since the big crack down has left a lot to be desired.

we can no longer rely on sammy, intransit or zhuren to give accurate unbiased reports as they are now the majority shareholders in the re-opened maggies – their reporting clearly indicates that.

so it is left to an ‘out of towner’ like billy to try to bring you guys up to speed. i was in beijing for 5 nights recently – may 27, 28, 30 and june 1 and 2. i visited most of the ‘western’ oriented bars where w.h.o.r.e.s work in beijing and i will give you snap shot of each.

the pig – holiday inn lido – what a fucking disaster this place has become. i went there on 3 separate occasions – the place still has a generous supply of ugly old chinese w.h.o.r.e.s – none of which i would even fuck with sammy’s dick. asking price – rmb1,500 which quickly became rmb800 which quickly became ‘you say – you say’ when i split my sides with laughter. just 2, 3 or 4 mongol girls here each night – and seriously plain mongol girls at that too. except – for one fucking stunner on one night who was quickly swept up before billy could get to her. i did ask the guy how much he had negotiated – his answer – not sure – rmb1,500 or rmb2,000 – not sure. yes you are reading right – rmb2,000 for 1 shot – fucking clown – no wonder these top shelf mongol w.h.o.r.e.s are demanding and expecting over inflated p-rices.

conclusion – the pig not worth visiting imho.

hard rock café – only visited one night – and that was enough. rmb100 entry – un-fucking-believable when the place is virtually empty on a thursday night. only saw 2 w.h.o.r.e.s working hrc – only 7 guys standing at the bar – only 10 other patrons seated at tables at 11pm on a thursday night. yep – hrc is fucked too. now let me tell you a story that chi chi told me in the den. pre olympic crack down the girls paid rmb800/month to work hrc. after olympics – rate rose to rmb1,500. now – now – you will not believe this – chi chi says it is rmb6,000/month to work hrc for the girls – no wonder there are none in there.

conclusion – hrc not worth visiting imho

the den – was in the den on all 5 nights – ate their on 3 of the nights – half price pints of qingdao beer and half price pizza during ‘happy hour’ really is billy’s cup of tea. only saw 3 or 4 chinese girls working the den – i must add i was not in there past 11pm – but before 11pm only saw 3 chinese girls there. chi chi was one of them – she is a great girl – done a few miles but i still love to chat to her. i posted a month or 2 ago how happy chi chi was when maggies opened up again and they finally let the chinese w.h.o.r.e.s work there but she said business so bad and competition so fierce for the small number of punters looking for girls in maggies that she was better working the den. i did also see one black girl from south africa working the den. 23yo lynne from joburg – tall and great body in clothes. i did negotiate an afternoon session with her – rmb700 for 2 hours 2 pops with pics – in the den i checked her body closely – really quite firm and she said no kids – so i was expecting her titts to be pretty good also. alas – when she peeled her bra off her titts almost hit her feet – lying ***** did have at least one kid – i just fucked her once and booted her out. i think i saw maybe 2 or 3 mongol girls in here in total – but as i say i did not stay there post 11pm – it is still the desired hangout for the mongol girls post 3am so if you want a w.h.o.r.e then just head to the den.

conclusion – the den not worth visiting imho if you are only looking for w.h.o.r.e.s

hollywood – visited on 3 occasions – never took a girl from here. pre olympics standard price was rmb800 for 1 shot – now it is rmb1,000 for 1 shot. girls pay rmb1,500/month to work hollywood. maybe 20 or so russians each night, 6 to 10 mongols, 6 or so chinese. quality just so so – nothing to write home about. 2 or 3 of the russians keen to talk/flirt/go out with western guys – i was only western guy in here on 2 nights – one other guy on one night – his first visit – he was astounded with the place – had one drink and left in a hurry. as previously stated – hollywood not for the faint hearted – but i did get to meet the manager and through an interpreter he said they would love more western guys there – business is very slow everywhere. still the same shitty atmosphere – still the same pesky toilet attendant trying to massage your neck as you try to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) then extort money from you as you wash your hands – still the same overflowing ash trays in the toilets that have not been emptied in 3 weeks – still the same approach where you must go talk to the girls rather than them come to you. as for the fucking taxis outside – yes rmb100 each taxi – girl goes in one taxi you go in another – if the girl does not play the game they are not allowed back in. trick around this is to walk over to chocolate with your w.h.o.r.e and get a taxi there.

conclusion – hollywood certainly not everyone’s cup of tea – but i do like to visit as it is so different

chocolate – went there for my first visit – wow – fuck is it big inside – huge. yes it looked like plenty of russian w.h.o.r.e.s working here – sitting 2 or 3 together at tables – but you gotta work so hard to get them – they are seated – you have no chance of assessing the bodies first – nah not for me. there was however an absolutely stunning chinese podium dancer there – the visit was worth while just to see her.

conclusion – chocolate a ‘must see’ as tourists but you would need lots of time and effort i think to pull a girl here.

maggies – my beloved maggies. let me say straight up – do not for one moment believe what the majority shareholders sammy, intransit and zhuren have been saying about maggies – it is nothing like it was prior to it’s closure in terms of girl numbers or girl quality – it is a mere shadow of itself. indeed the few ‘stunners’ i saw in there on 4 nights were asking rmb2,000 for all night. rmb2,000 – give me a fucking break – have these w.h.o.r.e.s not heard of the world economic crisis? rmb2,000 equals us$300 give or take – there is not a w.h.o.r.e anywhere in asia worth us$300 in these times – still they ask for this inflated amount. on the first night in maggies i showed sammy 2 of these w.h.o.r.e.s who asked this figure and sammy agreed – they must be on drugs. one of them was rather exquisite though – i upped my maximum a tad and offered her 1,500 all night – she knocked me back on 2 occasions. this is the same w.h.o.r.e i mentioned above that was in the den where some imbecile gave her 2,000 for short time – no wonder they reach for the stars price wise. took 2 girls from maggies on separate occasions for 1,000 each all night but jesus i had to work long and hard to find them / negotiate with them – nothing like the old days where you could walk in and 5 minutes later be on your way out the door. yes service was as spectacular as we all know the mongols provide. finally on my third night in maggies when i was having a drink with intransit i negotiated again with the rmb2,000 stunner from night one – the same one from the den – she finally agreed to rmb1,500 all night – so that is when i left my mate intransit sitting at the bar friendless. this girl was spectacular - her body was exquisite – she loved sex – as good a w.h.o.r.e as i have had in beijing. she was so good and overall pickings were so slim that i arranged a repeat the following night – first time in my life i have ever done that – but as i say maggies just aint the same – beijing just aint the same – quality w.h.o.r.e.s just aint dropping off the trees like the good ol’ days.

conclusion – maggies – still the best – still fantastic – just aint what it used to be.

beijing was my second favourite w.h.o.r.i.n.g destination in the world behind only rio – but things have changed. i will visit beijing again if i am transiting through there but it will not be a planned destination until things improve even more. and with expo 2010 looking in shanghai next year that might just be a long way off.

Mock A Bee
05-22-09, 09:09
first apology to all you guys for posting this report so late.

second apology to sammy t for not spending sufficient time with him on my recent visit. sammy you know i love you – but i love w.h.o.r.e.s more.

third apology to intransit for leaving him stranded at the bar in maggies on thursday may 30 – we had met at maggies as agreed and were indulging in an in-depth / intelligent conversation when i suddenly up and left due to finally clinching a deal with a w.h.o.r.e whom i had been trying to fuck for 3 days.

fourth apology to zhuren whom i did not even get to meet this visit as he was in the taxi on the way to maggies as i left with the w.h.o.r.e after abandoning intransit.

guys i know you all understand – w.h.o.r.e.s come and go – but mates should stick together – again i apologise.

now to the serious stuff – reporting on w.h.o.r.e activity and w.h.o.r.e locations in beijing since the big crack down has left a lot to be desired.

we can no longer rely on sammy, intransit or zhuren to give accurate unbiased reports as they are now the majority shareholders in the re-opened maggies – their reporting clearly indicates that.

so it is left to an ‘out of towner’ like billy to try to bring you guys up to speed. i was in beijing for 5 nights recently – may 27, 28, 30 and june 1 and 2. i visited most of the ‘western’ oriented bars where w.h.o.r.e.s work in beijing and i will give you snap shot of each.

the pig – holiday inn lido – what a fucking disaster this place has become. i went there on 3 separate occasions – the place still has a generous supply of ugly old chinese w.h.o.r.e.s – none of which i would even fuck with sammy’s dick. asking price – rmb1,500 which quickly became rmb800 which quickly became ‘you say – you say’ when i split my sides with laughter. just 2, 3 or 4 mongol girls here each night – and seriously plain mongol girls at that too. except – for one fucking stunner on one night who was quickly swept up before billy could get to her. i did ask the guy how much he had negotiated – his answer – not sure – rmb1,500 or rmb2,000 – not sure. yes you are reading right – rmb2,000 for 1 shot – fucking clown – no wonder these top shelf mongol w.h.o.r.e.s are demanding and expecting over inflated p-rices.

conclusion – the pig not worth visiting imho.

hard rock café – only visited one night – and that was enough. rmb100 entry – un-fucking-believable when the place is virtually empty on a thursday night. only saw 2 w.h.o.r.e.s working hrc – only 7 guys standing at the bar – only 10 other patrons seated at tables at 11pm on a thursday night. yep – hrc is fucked too. now let me tell you a story that chi chi told me in the den. pre olympic crack down the girls paid rmb800/month to work hrc. after olympics – rate rose to rmb1,500. now – now – you will not believe this – chi chi says it is rmb6,000/month to work hrc for the girls – no wonder there are none in there.

conclusion – hrc not worth visiting imho

the den – was in the den on all 5 nights – ate their on 3 of the nights – half price pints of qingdao beer and half price pizza during ‘happy hour’ really is billy’s cup of tea. only saw 3 or 4 chinese girls working the den – i must add i was not in there past 11pm – but before 11pm only saw 3 chinese girls there. chi chi was one of them – she is a great girl – done a few miles but i still love to chat to her. i posted a month or 2 ago how happy chi chi was when maggies opened up again and they finally let the chinese w.h.o.r.e.s work there but she said business so bad and competition so fierce for the small number of punters looking for girls in maggies that she was better working the den. i did also see one black girl from south africa working the den. 23yo lynne from joburg – tall and great body in clothes. i did negotiate an afternoon session with her – rmb700 for 2 hours 2 pops with pics – in the den i checked her body closely – really quite firm and she said no kids – so i was expecting her titts to be pretty good also. alas – when she peeled her bra off her titts almost hit her feet – lying ***** did have at least one kid – i just fucked her once and booted her out. i think i saw maybe 2 or 3 mongol girls in here in total – but as i say i did not stay there post 11pm – it is still the desired hangout for the mongol girls post 3am so if you want a w.h.o.r.e then just head to the den.

conclusion – the den not worth visiting imho if you are only looking for w.h.o.r.e.s

hollywood – visited on 3 occasions – never took a girl from here. pre olympics standard price was rmb800 for 1 shot – now it is rmb1,000 for 1 shot. girls pay rmb1,500/month to work hollywood. maybe 20 or so russians each night, 6 to 10 mongols, 6 or so chinese. quality just so so – nothing to write home about. 2 or 3 of the russians keen to talk/flirt/go out with western guys – i was only western guy in here on 2 nights – one other guy on one night – his first visit – he was astounded with the place – had one drink and left in a hurry. as previously stated – hollywood not for the faint hearted – but i did get to meet the manager and through an interpreter he said they would love more western guys there – business is very slow everywhere. still the same shitty atmosphere – still the same pesky toilet attendant trying to massage your neck as you try to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) then extort money from you as you wash your hands – still the same overflowing ash trays in the toilets that have not been emptied in 3 weeks – still the same approach where you must go talk to the girls rather than them come to you. as for the fucking taxis outside – yes rmb100 each taxi – girl goes in one taxi you go in another – if the girl does not play the game they are not allowed back in. trick around this is to walk over to chocolate with your w.h.o.r.e and get a taxi there.

conclusion – hollywood certainly not everyone’s cup of tea – but i do like to visit as it is so different

chocolate – went there for my first visit – wow – fuck is it big inside – huge. yes it looked like plenty of russian w.h.o.r.e.s working here – sitting 2 or 3 together at tables – but you gotta work so hard to get them – they are seated – you have no chance of assessing the bodies first – nah not for me. there was however an absolutely stunning chinese podium dancer there – the visit was worth while just to see her.

conclusion – chocolate a ‘must see’ as tourists but you would need lots of time and effort i think to pull a girl here.

maggies – my beloved maggies. let me say straight up – do not for one moment believe what the majority shareholders sammy, intransit and zhuren have been saying about maggies – it is nothing like it was prior to it’s closure in terms of girl numbers or girl quality – it is a mere shadow of itself. indeed the few ‘stunners’ i saw in there on 4 nights were asking rmb2,000 for all night. rmb2,000 – give me a fucking break – have these w.h.o.r.e.s not heard of the world economic crisis? rmb2,000 equals us$300 give or take – there is not a w.h.o.r.e anywhere in asia worth us$300 in these times – still they ask for this inflated amount. on the first night in maggies i showed sammy 2 of these w.h.o.r.e.s who asked this figure and sammy agreed – they must be on drugs. one of them was rather exquisite though – i upped my maximum a tad and offered her 1,500 all night – she knocked me back on 2 occasions. this is the same w.h.o.r.e i mentioned above that was in the den where some imbecile gave her 2,000 for short time – no wonder they reach for the stars price wise. took 2 girls from maggies on separate occasions for 1,000 each all night but jesus i had to work long and hard to find them / negotiate with them – nothing like the old days where you could walk in and 5 minutes later be on your way out the door. yes service was as spectacular as we all know the mongols provide. finally on my third night in maggies when i was having a drink with intransit i negotiated again with the rmb2,000 stunner from night one – the same one from the den – she finally agreed to rmb1,500 all night – so that is when i left my mate intransit sitting at the bar friendless. this girl was spectacular - her body was exquisite – she loved sex – as good a w.h.o.r.e as i have had in beijing. she was so good and overall pickings were so slim that i arranged a repeat the following night – first time in my life i have ever done that – but as i say maggies just aint the same – beijing just aint the same – quality w.h.o.r.e.s just aint dropping off the trees like the good ol’ days.

conclusion – maggies – still the best – still fantastic – just aint what it used to be.

beijing was my second favourite w.h.o.r.i.n.g destination in the world behind only rio – but things have changed. i will visit beijing again if i am transiting through there but it will not be a planned destination until things improve even more. and with expo 2010 looking in shanghai next year that might just be a long way off.

you write that you were in beijing may 27 to june 2... it is only may 22 today!

why are you pre-writing your posting?

mab

Andreas Wang
05-22-09, 12:47
Very sorry I did not report for such a long time. And my apologies I am also very brief again this time. But let's stay brief: Whatever your woes may be with the expat/english speaking establishments, down at the barbershop level things remain comparatively easy.

There was a slump during Chinese spring festival ... and yet I found decent providers during that time. Maybe a third of the providers kept providing. I expected all of them pack up at least during this time and head home, but nope: first window shopping on my bike and then have a pick. Twice. Yes, during Chinese New Year.

We are experiencing a slump again right now. Since May 1st and (as I was told) till the 60th anniversary of the PRC shops are advised to stay low profile. Quite a few heed this advice, quite a lot have closed up for the time being or close very, very early. It is almost olympic ... and yet I drive by enough shops on a regular basis and find something I like.

And in between things were even easier. A few revisits changing from Miss Jin to Miss Wen to Miss Wang or these days Miss Luo where I liked the service. If not keep it one time deals. If close to my home I also get the "if we meet towards the end of my business hours we can go to your place, no extra charge" treatment. I collect phone numbers and all ... but as before, I am a lot less active than the more regular members here. I had a good time in Nanjing browsing BBS there, beijing freebies, one psycho xiaojie and what not, but it does not add up to terribly much mongering over the last ... half year? When was the last time I posted again?

So - really sorry I did not even try to show up when BBB was here ... have not been once to Maggies since it reopened, did not meet up with Irving as yet or Fernando Alonso or K Zero.

As a little attonement - let's close with an anecdote. There'd be others to tell, but let's run with this one:


The Busybody

Had my first run in with the kind. Came out of an establishment late night, happy and all, and get on my bike to ride off to the horizon - or whatever substitutes for that in a city like Beijing. Some Chinese bloke "hellor"s me happily. A dime a dozen, does not even register on my radar anymore. I maybe hellored back or not, forgot.

What did register was when he tried to catch up with me. Had to run quite a little the poor guy. First I thought again 'whatever' but when he did that for about 200 meters so I thought 'okay, better stop, maybe something serious ... maybe a reactor core breach of my P-13 warp drive'. Can't be too careful these days, the bike makes funny sounds recently every time I break the sound barrier.

So I come to a halt and wait till he catches up to see what's the matter. Guy comes on all friendly and jolly, inquiring what I just did as if he'd be a fellow punter. Thing is though, my mother strictly forbade me to talk to strangers. Asked him quickly if we know each other (just to make sure it wasn't any of you in disguise) which he denied ... but quickly ensured me he was no L.E.. Very fair play he mentions that off the bat - does not change a thing though. Had to inform him I did not really get the point as yet why he thought I am an information booth, gave him a few more minutes to explain again, but it all just boiled down to just some more "Aw c'mon ... just tell me ... we all friends, right?"

All friendly and polite to this point but when he figured I was about to just ride off unconvinced our conversation took a bit of a downward sprial. I blame it on him putting hand on my steering bar, which is just such a big no-no. I think even Sammy as yet did not get that priviledged, so I got off my bike and had to tell him in no ill terms that this is a very good way to find troubles. His counter offer was to call the police, which I suggested he please do so I can report how some wierdo stranger accosts me late at night in a dark alleyway. I was not all that cool anymore at that point and I am afraid it showed a bit. Not really clever with hindsight, but anyhow ...

Rode off then after I was convinced he got the point and I guess he just forgot to call Beijing's finest. Or maybe the network was too busy because I called back the establishment to give them an in detail account of the incident. Was much appreciated there, got called back later again to make sure I was home well. Estimate there was that he was at best semi LE or just a busybody.

Drove by a few days later again just to make sure all fine there, turned out no need to worry. Management agrees with mom: No talk to strange men late on the street.

Common sense really ;)

Joinem
05-22-09, 14:12
You write that you were in Beijing May 27 to June 2... it is only May 22 today!

Why are you pre-writing your posting?

MABMay 30 will be a SATURDAY this year, when we actually get to it.

But April 30 was a Thursday! BBB deserted ST on April 30, but thought it was May because that page of his calendar says April/May, right?

J

Bad Boy Billy
05-22-09, 23:46
You write that you were in Beijing May 27 to June 2... it is only May 22 today!........Why are you pre-writing your posting? ............MABYes my mistake MAB - I was actually in Beijing April 27, 28, 29 and May 1 and 2.

China Maverick
05-23-09, 02:15
Landed in Beijing, pretty late and was wanting a mix of massage with happy endings and decided to call in this number. Lily asked me to send her and SMS; requesting a massage (I guess she was wanting to weed out the LE possibility) which I did and she confirmed that there will be a girl in the room in 40 minutes and she did

The FS massage is indeed 500 and the girl was in no hurry and took her time. She was real hot and was in it; completely so the first round lasted about 40 minutes and then we showered. While chatting the little johnny knocked again and I asked for a second round which she agreed; with an add on 300 - well worth the while!

CM


Ok, just call "Lily". There is always someone who can speak a little bit english. Short time is rmb 500, long time must negotiate. Should not be more then around 1000rmb.

If the girls like you they will kiss you, of course.

Condoms can buy in any family mart, they have plenty all sizes.

Thomas Jefferson

Virginboy
05-23-09, 03:59
I am leaving Beijing today, so I called up Angel again last night to request for another round of in-room massage. After 40 minutes, the hotel frontdesk called if I am expecting a lady guest. Gave them the green light, and the next minute, heard a knocking on the door. Saw a slim sexy gal wearing a mini skirt standing outside with a sweet smile. My heartbeat started to jump faster and I invited her in. I quickly took off my clothes and laid down on the bed waiting for her to massage. She covered me towel at my bum and started applying oil, rubbing and pressing on my back for 30 minutes. It felt very soothing and sensual. Flipped over and she rubbed and massaged on my abdomen. Her hands then shifted downward to my dick, roaming and rubbing at my balls. Asked me to try her dick therapy started pressing and rubbing on my dick for 15 mins. I became stiff and couldn’t wait anymore. She then proceed with a wonderful BBBJ and FJ till I cum. Paid her RMB 600 for 2 hours of sensation!

Intransit
05-23-09, 14:07
Gaoshou,

Dump the stewardess. This is classic Chinese girl nonsense. If you managed to attract one flight attendant, guess what -- you'll attract a lot of others, and probably c-list actresses and part-time models also, and that's for starters. I've dated magazine models, TV presenters, musicians, authors...you have the best wingman in the country, which is called Speaking Chinese.

方了她吧。。。move on. I've been where you are, more than once, and I'll tell you one thing -- if you think that this hard to get shit will ever change, it never does. Either they're into you and they express it (including sex), or they play you like a record. Take the needle off the turntable and go enjoy being a 20-something, Chinese-speaking foreigner who can pull quality.

Socrates
05-24-09, 00:25
Guys,

How is Susie Wong's pro scene, if any? I was transferred to another post at the end of '05 and have not been back since. I plan on hitting Maggies, Den, Hollyweird, Chocolate, and the Worker's Stadium. Any others to visit?

Thanks

White Dragon
05-24-09, 02:44
I'm still in my 20s but consider myself rather cynical about love. Still, I continue to be amazed about how girls can form attachments like this. I've seen this girl in person only 2-3 times. We mainly just Holding hands, cuddling on my sofa, some light kissing, and a smattering of breast fondling is all we've done.
Can't believe you didn't close the deal.

JoeBanker00
05-24-09, 03:19
Hey guys,

My first post here. I just moved to Beijing from the states and have found this forum pretty useful in the past while lurking. Thought I'd add my 2 cents in. Just as background, I'm Chinese-American, in my 30s, have been mongering for a while, speak Mandarin and am mostly into KTVs/Saunas. Have been to quite a few throughout China and Thailand. Hoping to meet people here that wouldn't mind hitting up some KTVs with me in Beijing (there are just so many.)

Diamond KTV (金钻花园)(Jin Zuan Hua Yuan)
Address: 海淀区花园东路30号 (30 Hua Yuan Dong Lu in Haidian District)
Number: 6202-6667
Room fee: 300 rmb for the smaller rooms, 680+ rmb for the bigger rooms
Hostess fee: 200-300 rmb (models are 300 rmb)
Mamasan fee: 200-300 rmb
Waitress fee: 100-300 rmb (depends on if you get a guy - 4th floor, or girl 3rd floor or basement)
Take out fee: 1000 rmb overnight (think it's 800 rmb short time)
Selection: Around 80-100 girls. Ages teens to mid 20s.
Quality rating: 5s - 8s. Models available, but no stunners.
Description: Diamond KTV is 3 levels. Bottom floor has nicer, newer, bigger rooms. There's also a nightly show in the basement at 11:30pm where the "models" get up and perform on stage. Top 2 floors are older, smaller rooms. Been going to this one for a while and think it's a pretty good value. Many of the girls don't go out - so you'll have to ask the mamasan to bring you only the ones that do if that's what you're looking for. Pretty good GFE experiences with girls here.

8号 (Number 8 - every cab driver in Beijing knows this place)
Address: 朝阳区朝阳公园西路8号 (8 Chao Yang Xi Lu in Chaoyang District)
Number: 6592-9999
Room fee: 1000+ rmb (forget what the minimum is but seems to go up everytime I go)
Hostess fee: 500 rmb
Mamasan fee: 500 rmb
Waitress fee: 400 rmb
Waiter fee: 400 rmb (200 rmb each - used to be 100 rmb each!)
Take out fee: 3500-4000 rmb overnight (think it's 2500 rmb short time)
Selection: 200+ girls every night. Ages teens to late 20s.
Quality rating: 6s - 9s. Definitely a lot stunners. Lots of Dongbei girls.
Description: Number 8 is probably one of the top KTVs in China. The selection is really good - almost every girl is 5'5" and up, thin, hot body, pretty face, etc. There are exceptions, but think this place has good consistent quality. I've been going here for a while and do think the quality/value has dropped off. Things used to be a bit cheaper and the girls used to be a bit hotter. Pretty much all the girls go out (at 4000 rmb a night, who wouldn't?). Great GFE experiences with girls here, especially the more experienced ones. There are also plenty of college girls and "office ladies" who work here as well.

If anyone is interested in going, PM me. I have a pretty flexible schedule. Also PM me if you want my mamasan's contact info at these 2 KTVs. Still have a bottle of Cognac at Number 8 stored. I'd say weekdays around 8pm are probably the best time to go - prime selection. Weekends are a bit slow (so sometimes the Mamasan will give you a bottle - sometimes buy 1 get 1 free at Number 8 on Sundays - not that that really makes Number 8 that much more affordable though). If you go past 9pm or so at any KTV, you take your chances with selection.

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JoeBanker00
05-24-09, 04:00
And a few more I’ve checked out…

Haocheng International (豪城国际) (Hao Cheng Guo Ji)
Address: 朝阳区香河园中里28号 (28 Xiang He Yuan Zhong Li in Chaoyang District)
Number: 6463-8108
Room fee: 1000 rmb
Hostess fee: 400-500 rmb (some models are 400, some are 500)
Mamasan fee: 400 rmb
Waitress fee: 400 rmb
Take out fee: 1500 rmb short time (overnight is probably 2500+ rmb, seems many of the girls only go short time)
Selection: Over 100 girls. Ages teens to early 20s.
Quality rating: 6s - 8s. Models available. Some very cute ones.
Description: Haocheng is pretty large – almost like a smaller version of Number 8. Good selection of girls but unfortunately a lot of the cuter ones don’t go out overnight. Best selection is on weekdays – many of the girls don’t work on weekends (probably because of the location – this place is literally located in some dark alley – better take plenty of cash, because the ATM is a very long walk away!)

Fubang International (富邦国际) (Fu Bang Guo Ji)
Address: 朝阳区东三环中路16号 (16 Dong San Huang Zhong Lu in Chaoyang District – 3rd floor)
Number: 5167-2298
Room fee: 800 rmb
Hostess fee: 300 rmb
Mamasan fee: 300 rmb
Waitress fee: 300 rmb
Take out fee: 1000 rmb short time (overnight is probably 1500+ rmb, but many of the girls only go short time – seems a lot of them have boyfriends already!)
Selection: Around 100 girls. Ages teens to early 20s.
Quality rating: 5s - 8s.
Description: Girls here are younger and pretty fun. Decent selection but the KTV is a bit smaller than the others I’ve been to. The girls’ waiting room is right down the hall – so you can always go in and look around to pick one out as well. Seems a lot of them have boyfriends though (confirmed with the mamasan), but can always be “convinced” to go out. Most of them can’t go overnight because of this.

West Palace (盛世西宫) (Cheng Shi Xi Gong)
Address: 西城区西外大街里143号 (143 Xi Wai Da Jie in Xicheng District – in the basement, B3)
Number: 8801-7911
Room fee: 680 rmb
Hostess fee: 200 rmb
Mamasan fee: 200 rmb
Waitress fee: 200 rmb
Take out fee: 1000 rmb overnight
Selection: Around 100 girls. Ages teens to early 20s.
Quality rating: 5s - 7s.
Description: I think this KTV just opened a few months ago. Decent selection of girls. Some don’t go out, so you’ll have to ask mamasan for the ones who do. Apparently on weekends some of the 500 rmb models from the KTV next door come here to work – but of course they won’t go out for the fees that this “cheap” KTV charges.

Please PM me if you want the mamasan contacts. Also if you know of any other good KTVs - always on the lookout!

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Boulayman
05-24-09, 07:28
Ok, just call "Lily". There is always someone who can speak a little bit english. Short time is rmb 500, long time must negotiate. Should not be more then around 1000rmb.

If the girls like you they will kiss you, of course.

Condoms can buy in any family mart, they have plenty all sizes.

Thomas JeffersonThanks for the help. I was in Shanghai for a couple of days got some condoms over there. Boy is it better there. I went to the 999 twice. The second time with two girls and it was the best sex I have ever had in my life. Seriously. Both were gorgeous. I took a cute one that kinda sucked at it but the one some guy recommended to me was beyond good. They did have a problem dealing with my little friend But overall quite the experience.

Does anyone know lily s current number?

In this thread I have found the following two but the post mentioning them was quite old:

13552885100, 13810871568

As I don't speak any Chinese I want to make sure I call the right one.

Oh and if anyone could translate the following expressions for me for when I call that lily person

- I want a girl for the night (I guess I can figure out how to say that on my own though)

- not too short

- long black hair

- pretty

- not fake breasts

I just realized giving the adress could also be problematic as the hotel is not very well known. I just give taxis the card of the hotel. It could be quite problematic to say it over the phone to a non english speaker I guess.

FernandoAlonso
05-24-09, 08:38
I had quite the experience at a favorite place the other day.

The Romantic Rabbit is located in an apartment block called Van Palace located just north of the Kerry Centre Hotel. The place is on the 15th floor and is marked with RRR on the door.

I have been a couple times. It is a nice upscale apartment - expat style. They take you into a large bedroom with a king sized bed and bathroom.

They seem to have a couple of girls working there. I was entertained by a very pretty girl called Helen, from Sichuan. In my view the perfect female - pretty face, medium height, slim build and natural B cups.

I showered and stripped down on the bed. She came in and started an excellent oil massage on my back. Not long and my hands began to wander on her firm, shapely legs. She stopped the massage, kissed me, and excused herself to get a condom.

She come back in and strips down and joins me on the bed. A little DFK and then she starts to work over my body with her tongue. BBBJ job commences, and I slide a finger in and all hell breaks loose.

She pulls my hand out and shoves it up the next hole. I twist my hand around and get my thumb in the first hole. She is going crazy. It is interesting to feel your fingers touch like that - never done that before. A few minutes of this and she has torn the cover off the condom and is wrapping the worm. I pull her on top of me and the worm crawls in hole no 1. That is not what she is looking for. She lifts up and says let me do it, and tries to steer my friend into hole No. 2 Now, the worm is getting up there in years, but it is plenty stiff tonight for this deed, but the hole is very tight. She adds some lube and in it slides. OMG, this is different. I slide a finger back in hole No. 1 and can feel myself - wow!

I don't last long in this state and as the worm crawls out, she is most unhappy. She grabs my hand and shoves it back up hole No. 2 and gets me to pound it like a jackhammer. She finally explodes all over the bed and collapses. We talk for a while, but frankly, I am a bit intimidated by the sex so I shower and leave. I paid her 1200, which she seemed happy with.Which elevator? Or better can you Pm me the apartment number, could not find it, tried both elevators, only locked doors after you leave the lift, so where is that famous place?

Thanks in advance FA

Bearsk
05-24-09, 18:15
Its a question as to what you want from her and what she will give.
If you want to have sex with her and the "price" will not drive you crazy then tell her.
If not then tell her you are in a relationship with several other girls and don't want to 2 time her.
This is absolute BS and she is in her own little fantasyland.

I suggest you move on, I agree with Intransit.

In case anyone cares, here is the next installment in the saga of the virgin stewardess previously re-counted here ..
We mainly just Holding hands, cuddling on my sofa, some light kissing, and a smattering of breast fondling is all we've done.

Long story short, despite my efforts (not necessarily my BEST efforts, but efforts nonetheless) to let her down easy, I seem to be more deeply entangled than ever. This girl has a sweet smile, a very cute way of talking, and would be considered a catch in China, since she's very tall. But I just don't see any way that this can end well.

Wushu
05-24-09, 19:07
Been there, done that. Let her go, already!

Canada
05-25-09, 00:11
Re: Socrates
Last time I was at Suzy Wongs there were a few pros working but asking high amounts like 2000 RMB ST and 3000 RMB LT. Ended up picking up a freebe though visiting from a small city and spent 2 wonderful days with her. There definately is some talent there but I did not work it very hard as the freebe came along before I was getting serious.

Sammy_T
05-25-09, 03:23
Re: Socrates
Last time I was at Suzy Wongs there were a few pros working but asking high amounts like 2000 RMB ST and 3000 RMB LT. Ended up picking up a freebe though visiting from a small city and spent 2 wonderful days with her. There definately is some talent there but I did not work it very hard as the freebe came along before I was getting serious.

Just a small word or warning regarding Suzy Wong's - they employ several Chinese "drinking girls" who's sole job is to drink and flirt with male guests. If you are not careful you may end up buying her drinks all night, only to learn when it is time to go that "she has a friend in town", or "it is her time of the month", ect. There are a few working girls at Suzy Wong's, but they will be more aggressive about leaving with you, not wanting to have another drink.

Sammy

Sammy_T
05-25-09, 03:26
And a few more I’ve checked out…

Joe -

Great couple of reports. Welcome to Beijing! I would be happy to hit a few KTVs with you sometime. Sign up for senior membership and send me a PM.

Sammy

China Maverick
05-25-09, 07:02
Both the numbers work; see my earlier report. Sending her an SMS may work faster as her reading skills are better than the spoken skills. She may ask for your hotel telephone number and the room number and she will figure out the hotel name and get the girl across to you.

Enjoy,

CM

Gaoshou
05-25-09, 09:58
She then proceed with a wonderful BBBJ and FJ till I cum.

Can we get clarification on how "FJ" is being used here? Does the "F" stand for "foot," or are we talking about full service?

China Maverick
05-25-09, 16:23
I checked out that angels-beijing on blogsnot (don't ask me how) and I found it very professionally written. The prose shows the hand of a native English speaker, and a good writer. No Chinglish mistakes. Is it just me or are there similarities between the blog copy and the recent Virginboy posts? Is it coincidental that not-so-Virginboy a while back mentioned the availability of a beautician who wants to change careers? http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=939

Nothing wrong with that, I applaud the author for doing a good deed and setting up one of Beijing's fair maidens with a quality website. Has anyone else sampled their offerings? Prices sound highly competitive for a quality establishment.The first time when I called the number (it was pretty late) the lady who picked up the phone couldnt understand english but could manage and i was sent a slightly plump girl for RMB 600 ST + taxi fee. The second time I called, all promises made to deliver and then finally she sent in her apologies; what a waste!! I could have called Lilly instead; but was too late so I passed.

All in all the establishment probably has not got its act in place and the pictures on site could be misleading!

CM

Paris12
05-25-09, 20:04
Hello everybody,

I dont speak english very good. It's difficult for me to anderstand all the messages.
Can you says me the 3 or 4 bests places to be in Beijing for sex (sex Hairdresser, discotheque, massage hotel, sex massage)?

Thank you very much for you answer.

Paris

Sammy_T
05-26-09, 02:39
Can we get clarification on how "FJ" is being used here? Does the "F" stand for "foot," or are we talking about full service?

I have always assumed "FJ" means "f*ck job"

Dumbass
05-26-09, 05:41
So I got settled in on my first night there. I ate a quick dinner and went to a foot massage joint and got my rub. I got back to my room and was ready for bed at about 9:30. I just couldn't sleep so I called for a massage. Now I am at a 4 star Marriott so I am expecting nothing but a rub and maybe a little hand release if I get the right girl.

So she came in with her little uniform on (white shirt and black slacks) and big bag of oils and stuff so I know this will be a regular 1 hr rub (300 rmb) and I was way cool with that because I was tired from the 13hr flight. So my final test to see if there would be anything extra on the menu was to just lay down on the bed in the buff. She promptly covered me with towels so that was my clue that this was going to be a legit rub.

About 40 min in she says, you should get 2 hours because you are big enough for 2 guys! I had to laugh and figured for about 88 bucks a 2 hour rub in my room was still not to bad a deal so I said I would go for 2. She made a quick call and continued.

Now my dumb ass thinks that she is flirting because she cracked a joke. So after I turn over and she is rubbing my leg, I notice she had her back to me and each time she made a long rub on my leg , the back of her shirt lifted and I could see her lower back. So I pretend like the momentum of her rubbing my leg was forcing my hand to touch her back. After about 5 min of this, she stopped and grabbed my hand and spanked it like I was a bad boy. Now I don't know if this is good or bad, but I stop touching her.

Then she moved to my other leg and I just said what the heck and started up again as my time was almost over anyway. This time she did not mind if I touched her back a little. Then I reach over with my other hand and starting touching all over her back. The she touch my solder and moaned a little and it was all over. I started taking off her shirt and she said no, so I stuck my hand in her pants. We were dry humping for about 5-6 min til I finally said I have a condom. She said okay, but when I went to got get it, she was just saying no no no my time is up. I completely ignored that and started rubbing her through her pants and she was good to go. I took off her pants and then took of her big ass granny panties and worked it out!

When she went to the bathroom to get herself together, I was trying to figure out how much is this going to cost me! I was thinking 1500-2000 rmb for a 2hr rub and GFE FS. So I just put 1000 rmb on the table near her stuff and got under the covers. She came out and gave me a kiss on the cheek and said "I like you, I think you are handsome". She picked up the money, did a quick check and told me if I wanted another massage to make sure to ask for #169.

I called the next night and took 1 hour rub and about 20 min GFE FS and gave her 600 rmb. If you are ever back in Beijing, stay at Marriott Beijing West and ask for #169!! She was about 5'10'' and 125lbs. I am guessing mid twenties with small A cup and those super long nipples I like......

Lumpi 777
05-26-09, 08:17
Both the numbers work; see my earlier report. Sending her an SMS may work faster as her reading skills are better than the spoken skills. She may ask for your hotel telephone number and the room number and she will figure out the hotel name and get the girl across to you.

Enjoy,

CM@China Maverick,

I'am in Beijing mid of June for 2 nights and would likt to try Lily.

Can you give me both numbers please, I'will send a SMS when I'am in Beijing

Thanks

Lumpi

Boss
05-27-09, 03:34
Nice summary Joebanker00. Your review made me try the 8号 sauna, since I'm not much of a KTV guy.

I went to 8号 for a massage. The building is at the very end of the street, past the KTV. Went through the standard locker room and shower procedure, then selected the 90 minute top of the line massage for 500+ rmb.

The girl was pretty and dressed up in a qi pao and I was on a big bed so I thought a hand job was in the works. Turns out they don't do. As best as I can tell in my bad Mandarin, after the Olympics all they do is legit massage. The girl was cool, had a manager come in and they changed my session to 45 minutes for 168 rmb. On the way out, they also charged me another 158 rmb for what they call an entrance fee.

On the way down in the elevator, I asked another customer if 8号 offers any extra service and he said he had no idea. So either you have to be a well know regular or they really don't do anything.

I guess I took one for the team.

Boss





Hey guys,

My first post here. I just moved to Beijing from the states and have found this forum pretty useful in the past while lurking. Thought I'd add my 2 cents in. Just as background, I'm Chinese-American, in my 30s, have been mongering for a while, speak Mandarin and am mostly into KTVs/Saunas. Have been to quite a few throughout China and Thailand. Hoping to meet people here that wouldn't mind hitting up some KTVs with me in Beijing (there are just so many.)

Diamond KTV (金钻花园)(Jin Zuan Hua Yuan)
Address: 海淀区花园东路30号 (30 Hua Yuan Dong Lu in Haidian District)
Number: 6202-6667
Room fee: 300 rmb for the smaller rooms, 680+ rmb for the bigger rooms
Hostess fee: 200-300 rmb (models are 300 rmb)
Mamasan fee: 200-300 rmb
Waitress fee: 100-300 rmb (depends on if you get a guy - 4th floor, or girl 3rd floor or basement)
Take out fee: 1000 rmb overnight (think it's 800 rmb short time)
Selection: Around 80-100 girls. Ages teens to mid 20s.
Quality rating: 5s - 8s. Models available, but no stunners.
Description: Diamond KTV is 3 levels. Bottom floor has nicer, newer, bigger rooms. There's also a nightly show in the basement at 11:30pm where the "models" get up and perform on stage. Top 2 floors are older, smaller rooms. Been going to this one for a while and think it's a pretty good value. Many of the girls don't go out - so you'll have to ask the mamasan to bring you only the ones that do if that's what you're looking for. Pretty good GFE experiences with girls here.

8号 (Number 8 - every cab driver in Beijing knows this place)
Address: 朝阳区朝阳公园西路8号 (8 Chao Yang Xi Lu in Chaoyang District)
Number: 6592-9999
Room fee: 1000+ rmb (forget what the minimum is but seems to go up everytime I go)
Hostess fee: 500 rmb
Mamasan fee: 500 rmb
Waitress fee: 400 rmb
Waiter fee: 400 rmb (200 rmb each - used to be 100 rmb each!)
Take out fee: 3500-4000 rmb overnight (think it's 2500 rmb short time)
Selection: 200+ girls every night. Ages teens to late 20s.
Quality rating: 6s - 9s. Definitely a lot stunners. Lots of Dongbei girls.
Description: Number 8 is probably one of the top KTVs in China. The selection is really good - almost every girl is 5'5" and up, thin, hot body, pretty face, etc. There are exceptions, but think this place has good consistent quality. I've been going here for a while and do think the quality/value has dropped off. Things used to be a bit cheaper and the girls used to be a bit hotter. Pretty much all the girls go out (at 4000 rmb a night, who wouldn't?). Great GFE experiences with girls here, especially the more experienced ones. There are also plenty of college girls and "office ladies" who work here as well.

If anyone is interested in going, PM me. I have a pretty flexible schedule. Also PM me if you want my mamasan's contact info at these 2 KTVs. Still have a bottle of Cognac at Number 8 stored. I'd say weekdays around 8pm are probably the best time to go - prime selection. Weekends are a bit slow (so sometimes the Mamasan will give you a bottle - sometimes buy 1 get 1 free at Number 8 on Sundays - not that that really makes Number 8 that much more affordable though). If you go past 9pm or so at any KTV, you take your chances with selection.

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China Maverick
05-27-09, 04:41
I don't have a PM facility so far and with the proxy in China; I am unable to pay for the membership online. (Can someone help; on this front?)

The numbers that I am referring to; are already mentioned in the reports uploaded by Thomas Jefferson and Boulayman, please RTFF.

Enjoy,

CM


@China Maverick,

I'am in Beijing mid of June for 2 nights and would likt to try Lily.

Can you give me both numbers please, I'will send a SMS when I'am in Beijing

Thanks

Lumpi

Sammy_T
05-27-09, 04:44
Nice summary Joebanker00. Your review made me try the 8号 sauna... As best as I can tell in my bad Mandarin, after the Olympics all they do is legit massage.
Boss

I have also been to the Block 8 sauna, and it did not offer extra service. I hope to give the KTV a try with Joe sometime in the future.

Sammy

White Dragon
05-27-09, 08:21
All in all the establishment probably has not got its act in place and the pictures on site could be misleading!

CMThey could have just ripped the text from another foreign website and added in key words like 'from sichuan' etc. The photo's on Angel's site are certainly not real. They look suspiciously like jap AV pictures or generic chinese model shots. I used angel once before while in beijing. Asked for Lina but she was not available so choose mei feng, next on the webpage. The girl turned up late, did not look anything like the pictuure and they charged me 1000rmb saying the girls picturered were higher priced 'models'. The girl was terrible in performance and attitude. I would not bother with Angel's services. I cannot recommend them at all.

FernandoAlonso
05-27-09, 16:33
I have also been to the Block 8 sauna, and it did not offer extra service. I hope to give the KTV a try with Joe sometime in the future.

SammyThe one in chaoyang park, south end? That looks really expensive, but anyway, let me know when you go there, should be worth the money..

FA

Boulayman
05-27-09, 17:17
Well, I was able to get a hold of Lily tonight

It was very tough getting them to understand me. After like two hours of waiting, a pretty average girl got there. At least she wasn t short or plump but she was nothing special, really looked like an average typical asian girl in NA. I was fed up with all the waiting and it was getting pretty late so I let her in.

We took a shower. Then kind of awkward time since I was expecting at least some pretense of a massage but she didn t even bother and we got the serious stuff going. Gave her oral sex for a long time since I was in no rush to get things going as I knew I would have a hard time coming anyway. She seemed to come a few times AFAIK. Then, she wanted to continue but she had no clue how to put the condom on and the one she had with her was poor quality and too small so I put one of mine instead.

Didn t want to kiss. Complained about my size. Really had to focus a lot to come as I just wanted to get it over with. I get the feeling that she came a few times but she could have been just trying to humour me or make me come faster. I always use the same two positions:

- on top of her face to face to try to get some kissing going and when she doesn t kiss well I just get bored and it feels like I am running some sort of marathon.

- I ask to have her ride me as she can better control the size of my little friend and it is more relaxing for me too since I am not that scared of hurting here and not that bored since I can at least play with her breasts. It<S less tiring as well.
Overall, waste of my time and money, at least it wasn t too expensive (save the room I got for the occasion) should have gone to the propaganda club instead and picked up a freebie I guess.

I was also thinking of going to maggies for the first time tonight but I guess I am just going to drink the wine and snacks I had prepared for the occasion (pretty woman style, I wanted the girl to spend the whole night initially and said that to lily but the girl was in a rush to leave, the whole thing lasted less than an hour, and quite frankly I had no wish to let her stay longer)

I tried to call Lily a few times afterwards at like 11 45 ish to ask for a new girl to be sent (slimmer, with long black hair, cuter, and damn it willing to kiss) but then it rung busy. I hope I am not blacklisted or something.

I booked a room for three nights and well the first one was a failure. Hopefully the next two will be better.

Man, Shanghai was quality.

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JoeBanker00
05-28-09, 03:28
There's definitely no "authorized" action at the Sauna in Block 8. My mamasan told me there are no working girls there and I've confirmed with some of the hostesses who work at the KTV as well. It's a strictly legit Sauna, so any hanky panky that might go on is probably under the nose of management.

Thanks for taking one for the team though - would be great if there were a Sauna in Beijing at the level of an 18 and Rio, but I suspect anything like that in Beijing is strictly "members only."


Nice summary Joebanker00. Your review made me try the 8号 sauna, since I'm not much of a KTV guy.

I went to 8号 for a massage. The building is at the very end of the street, past the KTV. Went through the standard locker room and shower procedure, then selected the 90 minute top of the line massage for 500+ rmb.

The girl was pretty and dressed up in a qi pao and I was on a big bed so I thought a hand job was in the works. Turns out they don't do. As best as I can tell in my bad Mandarin, after the Olympics all they do is legit massage. The girl was cool, had a manager come in and they changed my session to 45 minutes for 168 rmb. On the way out, they also charged me another 158 rmb for what they call an entrance fee.

On the way down in the elevator, I asked another customer if 8号 offers any extra service and he said he had no idea. So either you have to be a well know regular or they really don't do anything.

I guess I took one for the team.

Boss

JoeBanker00
05-28-09, 03:43
Was tempted to try out this website after members posted about it - but seems like this is no different than any of the other ads on craigslist, except it's cheaper and has more fake pictures of hot girls. With any of these services you pretty much take your chances with what you get.


They could have just ripped the text from another foreign website and added in key words like 'from sichuan' etc. The photo's on Angel's site are certainly not real. They look suspiciously like jap AV pictures or generic chinese model shots. I used angel once before while in beijing. Asked for Lina but she was not available so choose mei feng, next on the webpage. The girl turned up late, did not look anything like the pictuure and they charged me 1000rmb saying the girls picturered were higher priced 'models'. The girl was terrible in performance and attitude. I would not bother with Angel's services. I cannot recommend them at all.

JoeBanker00
05-28-09, 04:05
It is quite expensive. Posted the prices in an earlier posting. Just hanging out at the KTV and drinking probably runs around 2500 rmb for the room/alcohol/food/tips (mamasan, waitress, waiters) + 500 rmb per person for their hostess. Short-time I believe is 2500 rmb, then overnight is 4000 rmb.

I ended up taking the girl out that night after she got off work for much less. Superstar in bed. 23 year old tall, hot girl from Chongqing with an accounting degree (if that matters to anyone besides me. I like my girls with some education! ) with 34Ds. She did everything (rare in KTV girls). Apparently she had been "trained" well by her boyfriend when she was younger. Those dirty old Chinese men!

Anyway. I'm sort of dating one of the girls from the KTV there and she tells me business has slowed down quite a bit. She used to be able to get 2-3 rooms a night but now it's down to 1-2. Also seems that with 200+ girls working there, about half of them end up not being getting picked to hostess a room. Might be able to negotiate some of the prices a bit now, but probably not too much. I actually would prefer Haocheng (posted below as well) as my regular KTV, but anyone who's into KTVs Should definitely go to 8? At least once for the experience.


The one in chaoyang park, south end? That looks really expensive, but anyway, let me know when you go there, should be worth the money..

FA

Boulayman
05-28-09, 17:38
Just gave another try to lily,

She sent me a girl that lookswise was even below the one the day before that already wasn t stellar but it was getting late so I figured once again I might as well do the deed and that actually ended up being a great decision ! She was amazing in sex, really great. An amazing kisser as well, very playful too. She told me her chinese name but I can t remember it, I can remember that she is from Sichuan province though. LIke pretty much every single chinese girl I have ever slept it, she was impressed by my size (I used to think it was a good thing, I am starting to think it is actually a problem) so she couldn t handle riding me but seemed to greatly enjoy our little time together. She ended up finishing me with a tf and she actually did a great job with that. I believe she had a great time and at the end she told me she will never forget me, whatever that means.

All in all, it was 1 hour of genuine fun. Although she was far from being as cute as the shanghai girls, her skills made up for it.

I paid her 600 rmb and added 100 as a tip.

In any case, tomorrow is my last night and I really need someone to tell me how to tell lily to send me a cute girl (slender, long black hair, pretty face, etc...). Call me superficial but I want that last night to be with a girl I actually find attractive.

Inch15
05-28-09, 21:47
Hello,

Can anyone provide me information about Exhibition Centre Hotel, Beijing.

Info like masage service at the hotel.

Thanks

Inch15
05-28-09, 22:01
Hi,

Can anyone, tell me the extra I have to pay for the special services when I order a lady for the massage from the hotel.

Thanks

Socrates
05-29-09, 00:07
Was tempted to try out this website after members posted about it - but seems like this is no different than any of the other ads on craigslist, except it's cheaper and has more fake pictures of hot girls. With any of these services you pretty much take your chances with what you get.Joe,

Were you able to get one of the girls on the site? Were they all fake? I will be disappointed as I was going to call one of them this weekend.

FernandoAlonso
05-29-09, 05:13
Just gave another try to lily,

She sent me a girl that lookswise was even below the one the day before that already wasn t stellar but it was getting late so I figured once again I might as well do the deed and that actually ended up being a great decision ! She was amazing in sex, really great. An amazing kisser as well, very playful too. She told me her chinese name but I can t remember it, I can remember that she is from Sichuan province though. LIke pretty much every single chinese girl I have ever slept it, she was impressed by my size (I used to think it was a good thing, I am starting to think it is actually a problem) so she couldn t handle riding me but seemed to greatly enjoy our little time together. She ended up finishing me with a tf and she actually did a great job with that. I believe she had a great time and at the end she told me she will never forget me, whatever that means.

All in all, it was 1 hour of genuine fun. Although she was far from being as cute as the shanghai girls, her skills made up for it.

I paid her 600 rmb and added 100 as a tip.

In any case, tomorrow is my last night and I really need someone to tell me how to tell lily to send me a cute girl (slender, long black hair, pretty face, etc...). Call me superficial but I want that last night to be with a girl I actually find attractive.Welcome here and happy you enjoy it. Just a little bit of background, the girls always say too big. For one in general, exceptions apply, caucasian Ds are bigger. However they think it makes you feel good and they use it to avoid e.g. Cowgirl, where they have to do the work. Also it is a general accepted myth here that foreigners are too big, which in rural areas can turn in an issue because they are scared like hell and only let you enter partially. Be friendly and slow, treat them well and you get what you want most of the times. Often the less attractive ones are better with the deed than the stunners, but again, exceptions apply. 700 for ST is absolutely on the high end, even if you enjoyed it, also 100 for taxi is too much, let them give you the receipt and double it, you can even charge that when on company expenses.

Continue having a great time!!

FA

China Hood
05-30-09, 01:53
Hi everyone,

I regularly visit Beijing, and have been lurking on this forum for many months, so I'd firstly like to thank everyone for the helpful advice. Information regarding pricing has proved particularly valuable.

I was planning to save my first post until I had something novel to report, but alas my exploits are quite tame compared to many, and most of the reporting I could write right now is well known already.

However, I did just notice one suspicious thing which I'd like to highlight to you genuine members: Virginboys post about Angel's (4415) is an exact copy of text from an earlier post about LiLi (2063) on another well-known Beijing forum. So not an honest account of Angel's services I think.

Mianbao
05-30-09, 02:51
They could have just ripped the text from another foreign website and added in key words like 'from sichuan' etc. The photo's on Angel's site are certainly not real. They look suspiciously like jap AV pictures or generic chinese model shots. I used angel once before while in beijing. Asked for Lina but she was not available so choose mei feng, next on the webpage. The girl turned up late, did not look anything like the pictuure and they charged me 1000rmb saying the girls picturered were higher priced 'models'. The girl was terrible in performance and attitude. I would not bother with Angel's services. I cannot recommend them at all.I also tried Angel's this week, before I had read your post unfortunately so I didn't know better. It took them three hours to organise something, and the girl turned out to be a rather average looking factory worker. Waste of time and I won't repeat.

Lao Ma
05-30-09, 03:43
Hi Inch15 ! How are you these days ? great.

I have read all of your posts - that started way back in January of 2006. That's a long time, monger-pal.

Here is your help: Make a contribution to this forum. You have not posted one field report, nor given any reviews, tips, advice. You want help, start participating and making a contribution to our hobby. Selfish self-centered members usually have a hard time getting specific help. If you give something, you will get something back. Other than that, good luck sailor.

Boulayman
05-31-09, 03:10
Thanks for the info and encouragements Fernando Alonso! I used lily again yesterday and it was quite the adventure. The first girl came in and she really wasn t hot at all but once again it was late so I figured we might as well do it. She didn t want to take a shower, didn t want to kiss, was basically ugly. Wanted to do the deed underneath the sheets which was far from practical. At some point, I got fed up, told her to leave. She didn t want to leave ! Tried to seduce me but to no avail since she really wasn t attractive. Her one asset was her huge breasts so she tried rubbing them against me but I was more disgusted than excited by that. She wanted to at least do a tf, I kept telling her zhou zhou zhou (which I believe means leave), in the end she got the hint, called someone and kept talking for a long time, I was telling her that she might as well talk outside since I wanted her out of here. In the end, she kept kind of slapping fairly strongly my penis through my underwear a few time while saying something in a pretty pissed tone and put some of the food I had in my room in her bag (candies and all my litchies !) then finally left. I called lily and asked for a different girl to be sent (tip: she doesn t understand different but she understands the word change). She sent me a second one who was pretty ugly too but a better countenance than the first one. Once again, it was late so I let her in and I remembered the one that didn t look great but was great in bed. She wanted the shower but not together, she undressed but was really nothing special. At some point I was lying on the bed and she was massaging my back and I figured wth am I doing this ? I am paying for this shit, I don t like this girl and she obvisouly is not good at what she is doing. I could pull 10 times better by myself and I get pulled by at least 5 times better back home. So I told her to leave and lily called me wondering wtf was going on. I asked for change one last time, I figured if the next one was just as bad, I would simply cancel the whole thing and go to bed since I had to wake up very early the next day. But this time, I think lily sent one of her stars. Her english name was ferminata or something like that, she had a great body, at last a lily girl who is not plump. She spoke great english, she was very funny and very interested. I gave her a great CL, she was trembling and shaking all over and screaming so loud I had to put both the tv and my laptop on to cover it :). Unfortunately, she was a bit too skillful so I came before even penetrating her just from the way she was using her tight ass to rub it against my little friend as I wasn t wearing a condom, that made it feel even greated. She was quite disapointed and wanted to continue (without condoms and I really didn t want that) but I couldn t do it no more. I have had around 7 girls (without counting the two I rejected yesterday) in China and she is the first one that excited me so much that I came before the actual penetration despite the fact that the three shanghai girls were actually stunners, this one while not being as attractive as the shanghai girls, excited me a hell of a lot more...We then kept talking later on, she told me with a very serious face that she really liked my CL and that was happy right now and that made me feel sad actually. Anyway, she told me she would have liked to stay longer but it was already late (she had been here for more than one hour and a half and it was already 2 30 am and she had english classes the next day).

So don t be afraid to reject the plump girls lily sent, I have confirmed that she had at least one great one in reserve (Ferminata told me she was called by lily to show up for me but she actually wasn t interested at all at first, but lily kept pleading her)

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Bad Boy Billy
05-31-09, 05:35
Hi everybody............ Lisa's number is 13366991856. Wish you good lucy.Lisa - how much for your girls?

How long they stay?

Range of services they offer?

China Maverick
05-31-09, 07:12
Lisa - how much for your girls?

How long they stay?

Range of services they offer?Just google searched this cell number from Peter Wong and massage ads got thrown up! You know what I mean? Could be another supplier like Angel!

Waste of time!

CM

OldAsiaHand
05-31-09, 15:14
Hi Inch15 ! How are you these days ? great.

I have read all of your posts - that started way back in January of 2006. That's a long time, monger-pal.

Here is your help: Make a contribution to this forum. You have not posted one field report, nor given any reviews, tips, advice. You want help, start participating and making a contribution to our hobby. Selfish self-centered members usually have a hard time getting specific help. If you give something, you will get something back. Other than that, good luck sailor.

Lao Ma,

I also read his posts. My question is how did he manage to become a Senior Member without a single field report?

OAH

FernandoAlonso
05-31-09, 15:54
Hi everybody,

Here's my own experience to Beijing. Maybe it's helpful to ones who will go to Beijing or at Beijing. There're several very nice girls in Lisa's shop, including part-time students or company clerk, etc. I'd called three times from Lisa's shop to my hotel. All of them are very young and nice girl. About 30 mins to my hotel after I call.

Maybe it's also for you. Lisa's number is 13366991856. Wish you good lucy.Should that not be in the commercial ads section.

Mr. Lisa, I assume.

FA

FernandoAlonso
05-31-09, 15:59
Joe,

Were you able to get one of the girls on the site? Were they all fake? I will be disappointed as I was going to call one of them this weekend.The pictures are all fake, always and the prices are high, do a little reading here and you get better bang for your bucks.

On the other hand, if someone has the experience we can assemble a list of reliable call in sources, like Miss lily or the former famous Miss jin, who unfortunately service degraded with fame.

Any thoughts or starters? Sorry I am of no help here anymore, no more wonderful nights in Beijing full of fun and long sleeping, oh how do I miss these.

FA

Loveasiangirls
05-31-09, 17:07
Lao Ma,

I also read his posts. My question is how did he manage to become a Senior Member without a single field report?

OAH

I just noticed that there are many senior members, including me even though I never did anything special or ask for this status. Maybe it means we are paying members.

Nabradi
05-31-09, 20:07
Hello all,

I am new to the Beijing forum. ( I have several posts on the Bali one).

I will be going to Beijing in second half of october. Unfortunately, I will be with my wife. However, I will be able to get away for an afternoon. But definitely nothing at my hotel.
I am not well to do, so do not want to spend more than a total of about 1500 RMB absolute maximum. Would appreciate any good suggestions.

Some people talked about Lisa's shop, sounded good, could I get more info on that? Does she have a place there, or is it strictly take out. if the former, how much for a GFE girl?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Bad Boy Billy
05-31-09, 23:09
I asked for full service, including massage and sex. Price is RMB500, but you need give gal taxi fare (generally RMB50). Generally, they will stay about one hour. But if you need more, maybe they can stay a bit long.Confirmation that you are a shonk offering commecial services.
Just google searched this cell number from Peter Wong and massage ads got thrown up! You know what I mean? Could be another supplier like Angel!............Waste of time!.........Maybe so - maybe not.

I do not like commercial operators promoting their 'own' services and this site is DEFINITELY not designed for such.

But it will no doubt assist somebody who is too lazy / useless / scared to go find a w.h.o.r.e by himself.

Lao Ma
06-01-09, 17:18
This guy got 6 months for dating a Chinese national, while he was in China building the new US Embassy complex. Article states that because of their security clearances they are forbidden to fraternize with Chinese.

Strange, I remember sharing beers with more than a few construction guys at the Pig who were hornier than high school boys at a stag party.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/moms/6446924.html

DoItUnderwater
06-01-09, 20:10
This guy didn't get a prison term for dating a Chinese girl, he got prison for being stupid and violating the terms of his high security clearance.

If he was a construction guy working on anything other than a high level US Gov't project he would have not had any problem.

Think with the BIG head!


This guy got 6 months for dating a Chinese national, while he was in China building the new US Embassy complex. Article states that because of their security clearances they are forbidden to fraternize with Chinese.

Strange, I remember sharing beers with more than a few construction guys at the Pig who were hornier than high school boys at a stag party.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/moms/6446924.html

Sammy_T
06-02-09, 04:02
Strange, I remember sharing beers with more than a few construction guys at the Pig who were hornier than high school boys at a stag party.

I also shared many a beer with the construction guys in the Pig when they were in town. They all knew very well that they must report any interaction with "locals". At 38 years old he was not "wet behind the ears". Hate to hear he got into trouble, but this guy should have known better.

Sammy

Bad Boy Billy
06-03-09, 22:56
Billy will be in Beijing for 40 hours next week.

Arrive June 8 at 4pm depart June 10 at 8am.

Time is tight - 2 very early morning starts so Maggies not on radar - will probably be eating in The Den both nights around 8pm if any of you guys are free.

Sammy_T
06-05-09, 06:54
I have heard reports that 2 Russian girls with customers were recently followed by undercover police out of Hollywood. After they arrived at the customers 5 star hotel the police knocked on the door and arrested both girl and customer. This was happening pre-Olympics at other venues, but this is the first time I had heard of it happening post-Olympics, or at Hollywood.

Stay Safe,

Sammy

Fredo24
06-05-09, 09:50
I was in Beijing this Tuesday and Wednesday night. Just wanted to say that Maggies was almost like the old days on both nights, the fun starting after midnight. There seemed less control at the door than before, which I found strange. Also, one of the girls inside told me she was from Dalian. Do they now allow Chinese girls, too? (she was not a Maggie girl). It had been a long time since I had been to Maggies, actually. I very much like the "new" layout. A bit like how it used to be when it was still at the stadium. Now that was a great bar.
On Wednesday night, just to please a friend, I went into Hollywood briefly as well. What a sorry sight that was. The bar is really very dark and drab, particularly if you compare to Maggies. Still mainly "Russian" women, most of them with dyed hair. Very unpleasant atmosphere, unfriendly waiters etc. We left after 10 minutes without even finishing our beer and walked back to Maggies.
I also had a very pleasant four hands massage in the massage parlour at the back of the Hilton. Excellent experience but no extras. Go there if you need a good massage, but not for a release.

Rupert1914
06-05-09, 22:51
Anyone can recommend a young outcall escort in Beijing?

I'm there Tuesday and Wednesday.

Thanks

Member #3421
06-06-09, 00:39
I have heard reports that 2 Russian girls with customers were recently followed by undercover police out of Hollywood. After they arrived at the customers 5 star hotel the police knocked on the door and arrested both girl and customer. This was happening pre-Olympics at other venues, but this is the first time I had heard of it happening post-Olympics, or at Hollywood.

Stay Safe,

Sammy

I'm sure BBB would agree with me, this is most distressing. Any information on the nationality of the customer(s)?

Zhuren
06-06-09, 06:20
I also shared many a beer with the construction guys in the Pig when they were in town. They all knew very well that they must report any interaction with "locals". At 38 years old he was not "wet behind the ears". Hate to hear he got into trouble, but this guy should have known better.

Sammy

Should have done what the many members of the Beijing Local of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America have done; Go Mongolian. No locals.

He lied to federal agents, kept it a secret, employed clandestine tactics. Not smart when you hold a "high level security clearance." He was no common carpenter ...

Irv Washington
06-06-09, 09:28
I was in The Den bar on a Saturday night recently to watch televised sport.

A good deal with happy hour from 5.00pm to 10.00pm - half price pizza and drinks.

There were about 6 to 8 Chinese WGS in the bar. I'd say their age was late 20s / early 30s. Not stunners but certainly they were there and available ......

What interested me more is that, when leaving The Den, I saw 3 or 4 BBS on the main road Gongti Beilu about 30 to 50 metres east of The Den. Several nice young ladies available and waving out at me.

I was surprised as I have never noticed these BBS before, even though I've been to The Den a few times. And I haven't noticed them reported here. I didn't have a chance to go in but I think they're worth another look.

Has anyone tried these BBS near The Den? Any comments on prices, services etc?

Irving

Zhuren
06-07-09, 08:39
I have heard reports that 2 Russian girls with customers were recently followed by undercover police out of Hollywood. After they arrived at the customers 5 star hotel the police knocked on the door and arrested both girl and customer. This was happening pre-Olympics at other venues, but this is the first time I had heard of it happening post-Olympics, or at Hollywood.

In my not so humble opinion, everybody who frequents the horrible Hollywood rip-off should be arrested, or at least re-educated, treated for dementia, or at the very, very least given a ride to the airport. Propers to Beijing's finest for their continued Hollywood harassment initiative, in the interest of keeping the uninitiated away from that dark dingy dive. But that's just me. Don't like blondes anyway, especially not of the Russian persuasion. Again, my private opinions solely.

Friends,in case you haven't noticed, we are in another strike hard, sweep out period. Bar One closed (lack of business.) Coco Banana closed (illicit substances) Super Bar Street closed (wrecking ball.) Don't do anything moronic, and you'll be fine.

Dagevin
06-07-09, 11:00
Wow, thanks for this information.

I will for sure check some of these places out when I am in town next month.


And a few more I’ve checked out…

Haocheng International (豪城国际) (Hao Cheng Guo Ji)
Address: 朝阳区香河园中里28号 (28 Xiang He Yuan Zhong Li in Chaoyang District)
Number: 6463-8108
Room fee: 1000 rmb
Hostess fee: 400-500 rmb (some models are 400, some are 500)
Mamasan fee: 400 rmb
Waitress fee: 400 rmb
Take out fee: 1500 rmb short time (overnight is probably 2500+ rmb, seems many of the girls only go short time)
Selection: Over 100 girls. Ages teens to early 20s.
Quality rating: 6s - 8s. Models available. Some very cute ones.
Description: Haocheng is pretty large – almost like a smaller version of Number 8. Good selection of girls but unfortunately a lot of the cuter ones don’t go out overnight. Best selection is on weekdays – many of the girls don’t work on weekends (probably because of the location – this place is literally located in some dark alley – better take plenty of cash, because the ATM is a very long walk away!)

Fubang International (富邦国际) (Fu Bang Guo Ji)
Address: 朝阳区东三环中路16号 (16 Dong San Huang Zhong Lu in Chaoyang District – 3rd floor)
Number: 5167-2298
Room fee: 800 rmb
Hostess fee: 300 rmb
Mamasan fee: 300 rmb
Waitress fee: 300 rmb
Take out fee: 1000 rmb short time (overnight is probably 1500+ rmb, but many of the girls only go short time – seems a lot of them have boyfriends already!)
Selection: Around 100 girls. Ages teens to early 20s.
Quality rating: 5s - 8s.
Description: Girls here are younger and pretty fun. Decent selection but the KTV is a bit smaller than the others I’ve been to. The girls’ waiting room is right down the hall – so you can always go in and look around to pick one out as well. Seems a lot of them have boyfriends though (confirmed with the mamasan), but can always be “convinced” to go out. Most of them can’t go overnight because of this.

West Palace (盛世西宫) (Cheng Shi Xi Gong)
Address: 西城区西外大街里143号 (143 Xi Wai Da Jie in Xicheng District – in the basement, B3)
Number: 8801-7911
Room fee: 680 rmb
Hostess fee: 200 rmb
Mamasan fee: 200 rmb
Waitress fee: 200 rmb
Take out fee: 1000 rmb overnight
Selection: Around 100 girls. Ages teens to early 20s.
Quality rating: 5s - 7s.
Description: I think this KTV just opened a few months ago. Decent selection of girls. Some don’t go out, so you’ll have to ask mamasan for the ones who do. Apparently on weekends some of the 500 rmb models from the KTV next door come here to work – but of course they won’t go out for the fees that this “cheap” KTV charges.

Please PM me if you want the mamasan contacts. Also if you know of any other good KTVs - always on the lookout!

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Euska
06-09-09, 09:32
Once or twice I have been to these BBS when walking around after a few drinks and I remember having only gotten HJ and cursory massage for 100. Nothing especially remarkable about those BBS except their location, that I can remember.


What interested me more is that, when leaving The Den, I saw 3 or 4 BBS on the main road Gongti Beilu about 30 to 50 metres east of The Den. Several nice young ladies available and waving out at me.

I was surprised as I have never noticed these BBS before, even though I've been to The Den a few times. And I haven't noticed them reported here. I didn't have a chance to go in but I think they're worth another look.

Has anyone tried these BBS near The Den? Any comments on prices, services etc?

Phxchino
06-10-09, 02:32
I was in Beijing for a couple of nights and stayed at the Great Wall Sheraton. This is not the most GF hotel, unless you are picking up a girl from the Passion night club and KTV on the first floor. I decided to call up a couple of numbers I had from craigslist to test my luck.

She needed me to go downstairs and escort her up since the Sheraton goons wouldn’t let her up otherwise. So I obliged. The girl that came was tall, slender, had a bit of a run-down look, but had a great attitude. 7 face, 8 body. Once we entered the room she asked me to take off my clothes and she began an oil massage. She was actually quite good. She had a slender build, so that meant she had long, graceful hands and fingers. Usually the girls at, like, the foot washing places have stout fingers to be able to really get leverage on you for a massage, and long fingers are a detriment. But, this girl did just fine. She was about 25, I’d say. As she was doing the massage, she let her hands brush lightly on my cock, and then she started a full-on ball and shaft rubbing. I was watching her hands dance around on my penis and as usual, this got me very excited. She asked whether I wanted some other type of service. I said yes. $500. I said $350. We settled on $400. She took her clothes off so I could see her better, but she was strictly a ‘hands-on’ girl. I was fine with that since her hands were beautiful. I asked whether she would let me take a picture and film the hand action. She said that it was no problem.

She did it very slowly at first. Two fisting, alternating hands, flipping one over and going up and down. She also knew the little wrist twist at the top of the stroke to get extra rubbing action on the head. She did a great "Never ending pussy’ thing by only going downwards with the hands. As one hand reached the base, she would bring it back up on top of the other and slide down and so on. It was going on 25 minutes when she stated that she was just flabbergasted that I haven’t come yet. Usually the guys pop their wad in much less time. Again, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this.

When I was in college I found it highly erotic and totally exciting to find passed out girls after a party in my frat house and use their limply curled hands to give me a HJ. She said she was getting tired so I told her to just keep her arm and hand limp. I will move her – just like one of my passed-out girl HJs. After only a few minutes of me moving her hand I had a toe-curling, knee-buckling orgasm. As we were washing up and getting dressed, she got all playful. She cupped my face with her hands and gave me a kiss. I thought this was weird. She then hugged me and she give me a quick thrust with her hips. I think she was telling me she wanted to do more, spend the night, or whatever, but since I was pretty well spent, I played dumb, gave her $500RMB ($100 tip) and walked her down. She genuinely didn’t seem to want to go, but I was too tired. Perhaps next time, I told her.

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Peterretep
06-10-09, 04:01
Hi,

Are there any good HE massage places? I don't need the full FS deal and a great HE is enough for me these days.

I RTFF and just found the one at Wudakou stop on Line 13 (near Tsinghua Uni). And one of you said that he got a FS there but no HE . Confusing.

I read reports back to March and as those places change often I wanted to ask if there are good HE massage open somewhere?

I promise to give you a detailed report afterwards.

Thanks a lot!

Peter

Sammy_T
06-11-09, 04:53
When I was in college I found it highly erotic and totally exciting to find passed out girls after a party in my frat house and use their limply curled hands to give me a HJ.
I liked Phxchino's reprot, but am I the only one who finds the statement above a little creepy?

Sammy

Cooler Wolf2
06-11-09, 06:31
I liked Phxchino's report, but am I the only one who finds the statement above a little creepy?
Sammy

Sammy, I agree, sound report. But you are not the only one...although 'creepy' is not the word I would have used. The word 'sick' pops into mind...

Bad Boy Billy
06-11-09, 10:40
When I was in college I found it highly erotic and totally exciting to find passed out girls after a party in my frat house and use their limply curled hands to give me a HJ.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Post a link to posts of distinction?

For fucks sake - delete this shit from this sick prick would be more appropraite.

Bad Boy Billy
06-11-09, 10:45
In my not so humble opinion, everybody who frequents the horrible Hollywood rip-off should be arrested, or at least re-educated, treated for dementia, or at the very, very least given a ride to the airport.Hey - I resemble those remarks.

I was actually in Hollywood on Tuesday night - god I love that dark, dingy, scary, uninviting, filthy, disgusting place - Billy just happened to take home the 'best bodied' Mongolian I have had since Indra - probably No 2 or 3 on 'all time' scale

WHAT A STUNNER

Beijing Fox
06-11-09, 19:56
Dear friends, although I myself cannot fully approve of this behaviour, I would suggest not to harass this 'confessor'. After all this is a free forum and everybody should be able to write freely about his 'prefrences', even though some may not like it.

Who of you has never fucked a girl at college age that had probably been forced into prostitution by her pimp or mama-san?

Which one of the two behaviours is sicker? I would be careful to 'throw the first stone'

:-)







Sammy, I agree, sound report. But you are not the only one...although 'creepy' is not the word I would have used. The word 'sick' pops into mind...

Cooler Wolf2
06-11-09, 23:09
Which one of the two behaviours is sicker? I would be careful to 'throw the first stone'
:-)

Hey BF,

I am just concerned about the issue of 'consensual' acts and their opposite.

Heck, we all know that we pay money for sex, which in some others eyes is immoral, but does that mean we need to have a free-for-all, where everything and anything is accepted?

I appreciate your comments and also welcome diversity. This is not intended to start any argument and/or harass, but while welcoming diversity, surely we need to draw the line at non-consensual acts?

Cheers,
C

Bad Boy Billy
06-12-09, 03:28
Dear friends, although I myself cannot fully approve of this behaviour, I would suggest not to harass this 'confessor'.............I would be careful to 'throw the first stone'I am not throwing stones BF - I am throwing rocks.

Taking advanage of a passed out drunk - male or female - is TOTALLY unacceptable in any form - TOTALLY.

There is no place for that type of shit on this forum - it is designed as a medium to exchange / share / report information regarding P4P sex around the world.

IMHO - how can anybody not see the difference?

Phxchino
06-12-09, 15:22
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]I am not throwing stones BF. I am throwing rocks.

Taking advanage of a passed out drunk. Male or female. Is TOTALLY unacceptable in any form. TOTALLY.

There is no place for that type of shit on this forum. It is designed as a medium to exchange / share / report information regarding P4P sex around the world.

Everyone, I re-read what I wrote and realized it came out all wrong. I left out the part about fantasizing about doing it. I never actually did it. You know, the whole non-consensual sex/sexual assault thing. Kind of a big deterrent. It was just the fantasy of being in total control of your "partner". I realize having these thoughts doesn't make me any less twisted and a 'sick prick'.

I will refrain from adding any personal flourishes to my posts in the future and just stick to the facts. I appreciate the lively discussion and let's keep the reports coming!

Worthy T
06-13-09, 09:12
What interested me more is that, when leaving The Den, I saw 3 or 4 BBS on the main road Gongti Beilu about 30 to 50 metres east of The Den. Several nice young ladies available and waving out at me.

Has anyone tried these BBS near The Den? Any comments on prices, services etc?

IrvingI tried one a couple nights ago. The one closest to the Den. Three moderately attractive girls lined up near the door, I'd guess late 20s. One grabbed my hand as I walked in and led me to the back area, which was a series of small rooms with a bed and a table.

She started by giving me a fairly weak massage through my clothes then had me flip over. At this point she asked if I wanted a HJ, using hand motions. I said yes and she said 200 which I agreed to. I think she then said it'd be 400 with her top off, but I'm not sure. Right then another girl comes in, not one from out front. She's better looking, maybe a 7 if the others are a 6, and she speaks some English. She wants me to go two at once for 200 more. I tried to bargain her down to 100 but I wasn't successful and I gave in. The actual event wasn't bad. Girl #2 gave me pretty much full access and did some nice moaning while girl #1 worked below the belt. I left happy enough, wallet lighter by 600 yuan + 100 tip.

I know some of you are going to be appalled that I paid as much as I did, but honestly, I just can't get too excited over such small amounts of money! Ultimately they want it a lot more than I want to keep it, and their persistence is destined to wear me down. So I give up early and everyone's happy. Except my fellow customers, I suppose. But here I am paying you back by writing a review!

Today I walked down ChunXiu rd hoping to find the sauna there, but it was nowhere to be found. I guess the reports of its demolition were true and it never reopened. Can anyone recommend a similar place? Please be as specific as possible with the location if you do. I have a hell of a time following directions in this crazy city!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Gaoshou
06-13-09, 10:26
I haven't done much interesting mongering recently, but as I was trying to teach myself the guitar online, this Google ad-looking sponsored link came up advertising happy end massage and probably FS as well. Pretty scary that Google knows me so well. This guitar site has nothing to do with China or sex!

Site says Rmb 800 for "Sexy Complete set Service" but I bet you could you get the price down, especially with some Chinese:

http://www.beijinglifetop.cn/beijingmassageservice.asp .

I always forget if links are allowed on this forum. In case Jackson deletes my link, the URL is beijnglifetop dot cn.

I am not shilling for this establishment. The pictures are obviousl fakes, and I can't vouch for the service, but it could be worth a try, especially for those newbies always asking for advice. They are clearly catering to foreigners.

Schrute2011
06-13-09, 18:41
Hey guys,

I've been reading this thread a few months now and just wanted to say thanks to all the contributors. I'm relative newbie to Beijing and have been here for about a week.

I'm a mid-20s ABC who's going to be in Beijing for about 2 months. So if there's anyone of similar ilk that wants to meet up and explore, that'd be cool. I'm living in the eastern part of town between the 3rd and 4th ring road (Chaoyang district) but so far haven't been able to locate any BBS or massage places near where I live but plan on exploring often all over Beijing during my stay here.

Anyways, just wanted to check in and say thanks to all the contributors of the board. I plan on visiting the Anli lu sauna tomorrow so I will definitely report back in once I have some experiences to report on. Send me a PM if there's anyone of similar background that's interested in exploring together and sharing info.

Bad Boy Billy
06-14-09, 06:15
Was in Beijing for 2 nights June 8 and 9 - hang on let me check the month again - yes JUNE 8 and 9 - Billy got into trouble for a typo last time I was in town - can't have that can we guys.

Had 2 early morning starts so Maggies was out of the qustion.

First afternoon a visit from a Mongol regular - same deal - same exceptional performance.

That night arranged dinner with Sammy and Zhuren at The Den - sent out sms's to a batch of Mongol girls and had 5 join us - later heard 2 more actually arrived but did not see us so they left. Sammy arrived early but clearly got a better offer from a w.h.o.r.e so he abandoned us.

Sammy I fully understand - any plans made between mates immediately become 'null and void' if a new w.h.o.r.e becomes available.

We were also joined by Fernando Alonso whom Zhuren and myself had not previously met - great to finally meet you FA.

One of our Mongol companions was the 'super star' Exxx - wearing a low cut slip of a dress she soon had Billy aroused. Billy attempted to negotiate but she claimed 'hungover' from previous nights drinking and requested a rain cheque until following evening - Billy agreed.

By the time the group was ready to leave there were about 6 to 8 other Mongol girls available in The Den - varying quality - and a couple of Chinese - did not see a Ruskie.

Billy negotiated RMB1,000 all night with a 21yo tall Mongol - I cannot remember her name - but she is studying in Beijing and regularly works Lido and The Den. Exceptional performance - EXCEPTIONAL

Headed out of town early next day and then back to Beijing late afternoon - sms'd Exxx on several occasions - no answer - called her twice - no answer - looks like the rain cheque just got washed away in the Beijing weather.

Back to The Den for dinner again - by 9.30pm not one w.h.o.r.e in The den - so off to Hollywood. Found Txxxxx another super Mongol performer there and she introduced me to her good friend - 5ft 10in Jxxi with a PERFECT lean hard body. Billy negotiated 2 hours / 2 pops with Jxxi and headed out the door.

Now if you leave with a w.h.o.r.e from Hollywood do not fall for the 2 taxi x RMB100 ea extortion - just walk outside - turn left - and walk over to Chocolate - walk around behind Chocolate as if you are going to enter - then walk out to roadside again and hail a normal taxi. The girls will get heaps of shit if they are sprung doing this - so be discreet but Billy WILL NOT pay the fucking extortion fees.

Back in hotel Jxxi's body was just PERFECT - equal to any Mongol body I have ever had - and Zhuren let me add - way better than Exxx's is now. Jxxi's performance fell just a tad short though - she insisted on CBJ - that fucking pissed me off - and she whelched on the second pop. She did however fuck like a machine - incredible fuck - as silly as it sounds - I will repeat again - but next time spell things out a little clearer.

RMB1,000 for this girl with this body for 1 pop even with a CBJ is still not out of the ball park - I never ever thought I would say that - yes I probably do need certifying - but she was an incredible fuck.

At 11.30pm I still had desires for another Mogol - so off to Maggies. By 12.30am there were about 30 girls there - varying quality - nothing special - but Txxxx was there - her body is VERY VERY good - and as a performer she is equal to the best. Come on Txxxx - RMB1,000 and you give me the works for the next hour - 2 pops - and you go - let's go she said.

She did not fail to deliver.

4 mongol girls over 2 days - 4 stellar performers - aren't they a remarkable race of women?

In summary - can only report on The Den, Hollywood and briefly - like 60 mins in Maggies.

The Den - 8 to 10 Mongols on a Monday night was pretty good I thought - quite a good selection - you could do a lot worse - although not one there by 9.30 following night - plan on going there from 10pm on and you should be ok.

Hollywood - Great selection - plenty of Ruskies - good quantity of Mongols - Chinese also. Starts about 9pm and all over by midnight. Not a place for the feint hearted - it's dark, dirty, univiting, cold, unpleasent - and Westerners will feel really unwelcome. Not really the case - the Chinese manager there speaks not one word of English but every time I go there he comes straight up to me - shakes my hand - slaps me on the back - I can feel him genuinely welcoming me.

Maggies - was only there 60mins or so on Tuesday night - no doubt would have been more girls as night progressed. The Mongols girls I spoke to in Beijing this trip all still complaing very few customers - they say Maggies ok Friday and Saturday nights - but other nights very quiet.

Business visitors - I was reading the China Daily that 6 US Airlines had been granted extra services to fly into China. With the downturn in World economy ALL those airlines are now trying to delay or indeed just not start those services. Figures indicate business travel to China is down 33% on 12 months ago - there is your reason why the Mongol girls are not getting business - just not sufficient customers to go around

OK guys see you back in Beijing soon as I can.

Worthy T
06-14-09, 08:15
Anyways, just wanted to check in and say thanks to all the contributors of the board. I plan on visiting the Anli lu sauna tomorrow so I will definitely report back in once I have some experiences to report on. Send me a PM if there's anyone of similar background that's interested in exploring together and sharing info.

That place does sound interesting. The last report here (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=868550&highlight=anli#post868550) was from a guy saying he got turned away as a foreigner. How's your Chinese? Mine is just terrible, so I figured I wouldn't get far there.

I'll be curious to hear how you do.

WT

Jon Wa
06-14-09, 18:04
RMB1,000 for this girl with this body for 1 pop even with a CBJ is still not out of the ball park - I never ever thought I would say that - yes I probably do need certifying - but she was an incredible fuck.


Business visitors - I was reading the China Daily that 6 US Airlines had been granted extra services to fly into China. With the downturn in World economy ALL those airlines are now trying to delay or indeed just not start those services. Figures indicate business travel to China is down 33% on 12 months ago - there is your reason why the Mongol girls are not getting business - just not sufficient customers to go around.So I've got my first trip in the works, but I'm just a bit confused by what I read on here. If things are so slow, why do prices seem so high? I was hoping for some nice, inexpensive, mongering while I'm there but it sounds like the prices for what you get are pretty close to what I get stateside and those prices have actually come down a little. If you add in the cost of buying drinks in the bar and taxis, I don't see much advantage to hobbying over there.

FernandoAlonso
06-14-09, 18:55
She started by giving me a fairly weak massage through my clothes then had me flip over. At this point she asked if I wanted a HJ, using hand motions. I said yes and she said 200 which I agreed to. I think she then said it'd be 400 with her top off, but I'm not sure. Right then another girl comes in, not one from out front. She's better looking, maybe a 7 if the others are a 6, and she speaks some English. She wants me to go two at once for 200 more. I tried to bargain her down to 100 but I wasn't successful and I gave in. The actual event wasn't bad. Girl #2 gave me pretty much full access and did some nice moaning while girl #1 worked below the belt. I left happy enough, wallet lighter by 600 yuan + 100 tip.Welcome here and to the world of BBS, even if you do not care about money, may I politely suggest in your own interest to play the game according to the rules. In a Chinese eye you lost all face and respect. They did the normal play and you never should give in to the first offer, man I did negotiate with them having my d*** in their hand, I throw the second one out, you were lucky number three did not come in. And than you give them a tip for screwing you. Even in BJ where they have become very agressive due to the lower business, you will always get a HJ for 100 to 150 and the second girl comes at 50 most, what is she doing anyway? I got FS with two girls once for 400 (and that was overpaid, even it was great).

So do us all the favour and do not become a BSD, you sound like a fine guy.

Just my 2 fen

FA

OldAsiaHand
06-15-09, 04:02
I know some of you are going to be appalled that I paid as much as I did, but honestly, I just can't get too excited over such small amounts of money! Ultimately they want it a lot more than I want to keep it, and their persistence is destined to wear me down. So I give up early and everyone's happy. Except my fellow customers, I suppose. But here I am paying you back by writing a review!

Worthy T,

With all due respect, let me be the first to be appalled. I realize that Beijing is probably the most expensive mongering location in China, but, IMHO, 700 RMB for a HJ is ridiculous even for 2 girls. Problem is not that you are a BSD and the money means nothing to you. Problem is that the money may mean something to other less fortunate mongers that visit that place after you have. Your overpayment leaves the girls with the perception of that value for their services. The more guys that do the same reinforces it. After awhile, if you are only willing to pay the normal "market price", you either don't get served at all or receive a lower quality of service.

Just my POV.

OAH