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Below is a like to an article about Maggie's on BeijingBoye:
http://www.beijingboyce.com/2009/06/15/the-golden-horde-in-beijing-a-history-of-maggies-bar/
And here is one about our northern sisters on China Expat:
http://www.chinaexpat.com/blog/ernie/2009/06/02/mongolian-women-today-and-yesterday.html
I visited Maggie's on Saturday night, and it was crowded - not like the old days, but still busy. I would compare a Friday or Saturday night now similar to say a Wednesday or Thursday night before the olympics. A regular week day night is still slow - similar to a Sunday or Monday night pre-olympics.
Sammy
Below is a like to an article about Maggie's on BeijingBoye:
http://www.beijingboyce.com/2009/06/15/the-golden-horde-in-beijing-a-history-of-maggies-bar/
And here is one about our northern sisters on China Expat:
http://www.chinaexpat.com/blog/ernie/2009/06/02/mongolian-women-today-and-yesterday.html
I visited Maggie's on Saturday night, and it was crowded - not like the old days, but still busy. I would compare a Friday or Saturday night now similar to say a Wednesday or Thursday night before the olympics. A regular week day night is still slow - similar to a Sunday or Monday night pre-olympics.
Sammy
The first article is mostly correct.
The second article is fluff. Heavy on not-on-topic Gengis Khan stuff cribbed from Wikipedia, and the usual sex slavery fairy tales. There is a good comment:
"Having seen a few Mongolian working girls, living in the same complex as me..the complex is a chinese apartment building surround by ExPat Housing.. .. they come and go free will and work in the bars of the Holiday Inn and other hotels) in Beijing...Most rent apartments with other working girls and some I have met go to school...haven't seen the slave trade mentioned..just working girls doing what working girls do..."
Sammy's observation is spot-on as always. Although, we were there on Thursday, and it was pretty crowded. However, business is not how it used to be. The big spenders are gone, and it's a lot of young guys clutching one beer. The girls often go home alone.
I agree this is stupid. . I tried a BBS close to Lido last week and went into that promised BBTC for 100RMB but when I started she just started licking a little and then started hand job. Another girl came in and asked if she could participate for another 100RMB. I got a 2 girl naked handjob for 150 RMB total and did not feel like I got a good deal. I can afford more but this is the max you should pay for a 2 girl service.
Sammy great report on Maggies. It is acturately correct.
Sammy, OAH, Billy, Zhuren and Fernando i do really hope I can met with you guys at some point in Beijing. I am moving there mid August and would love to get to know the ropes from you guys.
Just one question. When people say "The Den" do they mean the Denmark Bar opposite Hooters (saw it last time I ws in Bejing during the Olympics)?
I am calculating my monthly spending budget at the moment...so really if I want to get laid by a Mongolian or Chinese or Rusky then I have to expct to pay 1,000RMB for short time...is that correct? Or is that 1,000RMB for longtime? When i was there in 2006 the price was 600RMB even at Hollywood.
Many thanks for your help.
Just one question. When people say "The Den" do they mean the Denmark Bar opposite Hooters (saw it last time I ws in Bejing during the Olympics)?
There is no Denmark Bar across from Hooters - it's "The Den" - no mark.
FernandoAlonso
06-15-09, 16:55
There is no Denmark Bar across from Hooters - it's "The Den" - no mark.Only thing correct, it is besides Hooters, sorry for our Scandinavian friends, it is a Sports Bar, no Vikings were spotted, but quite a few Northern Beauties.
On pricing, RTFF and learn to negotiate, BBB the MAster of Mongolians gave some good hints, but they are not cheap, quality costs, BBS is around the corner, can be fun to, but very different fun, fast food so to say.
Welcome to the club, contribute and the legends will at one point meet with you.
FA
I am calculating my monthly spending budget at the moment...so really if I want to get laid by a Mongolian or Chinese or Rusky then I have to expct to pay 1,000RMB for short time...is that correct? Or is that 1,000RMB for longtime? When i was there in 2006 the price was 600RMB even at Hollywood
Hmmm. 600 all night, eh? Did she come with a bag over her head? I came here when the yuan was still pegged 8 to the dollar, and the rack rate (in more ways than one) at Maggie's was 800 RMB = $100. Exchange rates shifted to the detriment of the $. Our Northern Sisters are usually well educated and know their currencies. So the rate rose to 1000 RMB, which equaled EUR 100. Even that is no longer true, but the rate stuck.
Whether that buys you LT or ST depends on the time of the day, your staying power, the market, and the zodiac. Not to forget the rate of inebriation of your counterparty.
Bad Boy Billy
06-16-09, 04:49
Hmmm. 600 all night, eh? Did she come with a bag over her head? Zhuren - you saw Sammy's new girlfriend too huh?
Zhuren - you saw Sammy's new girlfriend too huh?As they say in the States: "If she is ugly put a flag over her face and Fu*k her for Old Glory!"
:) :)
Had a fantastic sauna session yesterday. It is located on the west side of town near the Zoo. Not cheap (1200 RMB for the works), but probably the best sauna experience I have had in China. Line-up of 10 girls, between 7 - 9 on a scale from 1 to 10. Very nice facilities, and did I mention excellent service? If anyone is interested send me a PM for contact information.
Sammy
You sound like an absolute tool..."the legends will meet you"...what a w#nker...nothing to learn from people like you....met plenty of your type in 5 years in Bangkok and they taught me nothing while thinking they knew everything..
I have plenty of mates who live in Beijing who pay nothing like the prices you guys are talking here...indeed many of them go for the non pay option...case in point a friend of mine who is a complete newbie to Beijing picked up a mongolian girl outside Maggies last month and paid her 400RMB all night...i have seen the pics and she was no stunner but quite acceptable...
Good luck and no interest in meeting a wanker like you seem to be.
Bad Boy Billy
06-16-09, 05:44
You sound like an absolute tool...............case in point a friend of mine who is a complete newbie to Beijing picked up a mongolian girl outside Maggies last month and paid her 400RMB all night..............Good luck and no interest in meeting a wanker like you seem to be.Mate - settle down a bit.
I have read and read FA's posts - I see nothing he has written that deserves that response.
If I have missed something please point it out to me.
Zhuren and Billy actually met FA for the first time in The Den on Monday June 8 - he is a decent guy. He has been floating in and out of Beijing for a considerable length of time AND has been a valuable contributor to this board.
I think the point he was making was that it is not always easy to meet up immediately with regulars - sometimes it takes time - as it did in his case - but do not worry he will be a welcome associate any time I am in Beijing.
I look forward to meeting you too Bowerboy at some point in time.
FernandoAlonso
06-16-09, 06:27
You sound like an absolute tool."the legends will meet you". What a w#nker. Nothing to learn from people like you. Met plenty of your type in 5 years in Bangkok and they taught me nothing while thinking they knew everything.
I have plenty of mates who live in Beijing who pay nothing like the prices you guys are talking here. Indeed many of them go for the non pay option. Case in point a friend of mine who is a complete newbie to Beijing picked up a mongolian girl outside Maggies last month and paid her 400RMB all night. I have seen the pics and she was no stunner but quite acceptable.
Good luck and no interest in meeting a wanker like you seem to be.Just to clarify, if that was your point, I do not count myself to the legends, by no way, it took me a long time to meet them, as anyone first has to deserve this right. Any idea how many leechers contact them any day with questions answered a hundred times? So my point still is for anyone contribute and the rest will come.
And flaming people does not help in getting advice.
FA
Mate - settle down a bit.
I have read and read FA's posts - I see nothing he has written that deserves that response.
If I have missed something please point it out to me.
Zhuren and Billy actually met FA for the first time in The Den on Monday June 8 - he is a decent guy. He has been floating in and out of Beijing for a considerable length of time AND has been a valuable contributor to this board.
I think the point he was making was that it is not always easy to meet up immediately with regulars - sometimes it takes time - as it did in his case - but do not worry he will be a welcome associate any time I am in Beijing.
I look forward to meeting you too Bowerboy at some point in time.
Cheapest I ever had in Maggie's since I went the first time in 2002 was 800 RMB all night, I believe. Only way 400 RMB would do it imho is if (1) she is absolutely ugly, (2) all night starts at 4 AM and she has had already one or two other guys.
Now it is 1000 RMB I think for a good looking one. However, if she likes you, next time MIGHT be cheaper (I once had an offer from an incredible girl called Aminzula of 2000 RMB for three days - unfortunately I lost her mobile number).
I admit I am picky though.
Yeah fair call, it was a bit harsh in retospect...apologies...
In fairness though the line "Welcome to the club, contribute and the legends will at one point meet with you" is patronising and condescending in the extreme...however i do accept that it probably wasnt meant that way.
Peace
Have fun living in Beijing - I believe it was you who came for a visit a little while ago and said you failed to see even one attractive woman during your whole trip. Good luck with that, hope your eyesight and expectations can adjust to the local scenery. I am envious that you have lived in Bangkok before, but to be honest I've been to very few places on earth with more arrogant, entitled, a*s**hole expat wankers than in Bangkok - hope you aren't one of them !
I once had an offer from an incredible girl called Aminzula of 2000 RMB for three days. Unfortunately I lost her mobile number.I've heard it's possible to hire a girl as a tour guide for a few days as well as evening play. Is this true? I'd love to have a girl take me around Beijing for a weekend of touring and nights of hotel fun. I found one site that had this service, but the were over a $1000 USD a day. Yeah, don't think so.
I've heard it's possible to hire a girl as a tour guide for a few days as well as evening play. Is this true? I'd love to have a girl take me around Beijing for a weekend of touring and nights of hotel fun. I found one site that had this service, but the were over a $1000 USD a day. Yeah, don't think so.
Many ads for this kind of service available on The Beijinger. Here's one I found through a quick scan:
http://www.thebeijinger.com/classifieds/2009/06/16/Do-you-need
City Weekend also has classifieds, though they seem to be censoring the suggestive ones these days. There used to be many more on both City Weekend and The Beijinger.
I'm sure prices are negotiable and that quality varies widely.
You could also post your own girl-wanted ad like this guy: http://cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/classifieds/view/111530/.
I've heard it's possible to hire a girl as a tour guide for a few days as well as evening play. Is this true? I'd love to have a girl take me around Beijing for a weekend of touring and nights of hotel fun. I found one site that had this service, but the were over a $1000 USD a day. Yeah, don't think so.I think that just about any English speaking Chinese "working girl" would be willing to act as a tour guide. These girls are the ones that can be found in hotel lobbies or bars frequented by foreigners, like the Pig, Hard Rock, and Passions. Due to the crackdown the number of Mongolian girls are down, but they are plenty of Chinese girls out there trying to make a living. Plus, they typically have nothing to do during the day anyway.
I would expect to give her about 300 RMB for the tour, plus pay for her meals when you are together. You would also need to pay for any transportation. This would be on top of whatever you agree to pay her for "extra" service. In answer to your earlier question about price - If you have not already done so, please take a look at my Beijing FAQ, as it discusses the different venues and girls in Beijing, and relative pricing information: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=872244&postcount=4347
I know a couple of girls that may be interested in helping you out, but since you are a new member with few posts I am reluctant to give out phone numbers. Send me a PM with some additional details about yourself, and we can go from there.
Sorry if I sound like an "an absolute tool" (as Bowerboy would put it), but it is my policy to only share detailed information with people I have met face-to-face, or that has been referred to me by someone I have met face-to-face.
Sammy
Loveasiangirls
06-17-09, 14:07
I've heard it's possible to hire a girl as a tour guide for a few days as well as evening play. Is this true? I'd love to have a girl take me around Beijing for a weekend of touring and nights of hotel fun. I found one site that had this service, but the were over a $1000 USD a day. Yeah, don't think so.
Check here: http://www.chinapass.com/default_e.asp
but i can't vouch for it.
..case in point a friend of mine who is a complete newbie to Beijing picked up a mongolian girl outside Maggies last month and paid her 400RMB all night...i have seen the pics and she was no stunner but quite acceptable...
I know what any self respecting Northern Sister would say to that: "Yakshte!"
However, if she likes you, next time MIGHT be cheaper (I once had an offer from an incredible girl called Aminzula of 2000 RMB for three days - unfortunately I lost her mobile number).
I admit I am picky though.
These longer term engagements actually become quite popular with the Northern Sisters, and one can get quite a deal for a few days, or a week.
Sebastian My
06-17-09, 23:10
I have plenty of mates who live in Beijing who pay nothing like the prices you guys are talking here...indeed many of them go for the non pay option...case in point a friend of mine who is a complete newbie to Beijing picked up a mongolian girl outside Maggies last month and paid her 400RMB all night...i have seen the pics and she was no stunner but quite acceptable...
I am the first to admit the pricing in Beijing is much higher than the Nana parking lot at 2am. Unlike Bangkok, Beijing is not really a monger tourist destination. For PRC you need to go to DongGuan to get similar pricing – and it helps a lot if you can parlay in pudongwa. However, having lived in both Bangkok, Beijing and several other delightful places, Beijing does have some unique differentiators.
The primary one is a good range of different nationalities, while you will find Russians, Mongolians and other nationalities in Bangkok, they are either of very poor quality or hard to find or very expensive. In Beijing you can partake in an adventure with Russians, Mongolians and the folks from the stan's. While not everyone's cup of tea, the lady's from these regions generally have a high level of experience.
The other advantage is a good supply of freebies, if you are yourself reasonably young and are not hideous. However freebies can be the most expensive option, as my mate from Beijing who marries a stunner from shanghai can testify, so beware.
As for pricing, you pay for the following – LOOKS * ATTITUDE * EXPERIENCE. If your scale is -5 to +5 then if any of these values are negative you will not get value for money, no matter how little or much you pay. In Bangkok I tend to go for the tall model types which frequent the local clubs, like the old Pegasus – or the freelance bar in patpong across from the kangaroo bar (Watch out for the ladyboys however). These girls are all +4/+5 in LOOKS, +4/+5 in ATTITUDE but are normally not very experienced and these girls are not cheap (Although I have noticed pricing dropping in the last 6 months). The low cost options in Bangkok tend to not be go high on the LOOK department, although they have an excellent attitude, but even here the experience is not exceptional.
So based on my rather bias opinion, this sums up the differences in Beijing.
NATONALITY LOOKS ATTITUDE EXPERIENCE
Mongolians_______Av________Good________Good
Russians_________Av_________Av_________Good
Chinese #1 ______Av ________Good________Av
Chinese #2 _____Good________Av _________Poor
Note : The Sauna girls are all very experienced as they go through extensive training(sic) – I am only talking about freelance girls.
This kind of explains why everyone tends to be Mongolian crazy and pays the prices they do.
Thinking about your comment on looks, I suspect you like the typical Thai unique tall thin look, with very tall legs and a hairless snatch. I can relate to that, after Bangkok the girls from Beijing did not initially look so good. But then I discovered Harbin and Shenyang, tall and thin girls are available at a more reasonably cost, but unfortunately their snatch remains rather hairy. Language may be an issue however. So as a final comment, once you spend a lot of time in this delightful country, you never know, you may get hooked on Northern China, like the other chaps on this forum
Loveasiangirls
06-18-09, 02:23
Chinese #1 ______Av ________Good________Av
Chinese #2 _____Good________Av _________Poor
Performance inversely related to looks? Isn't that the case of all girls.
Thanks I really appreciate the feedback.
I must say I am ready for a change from Thailand...i am starting to think that I will pursue the freebies in Beijing via the internet and keep the mongering for Shenzen and surrounding areas.
I think i need to get my head round the pricing in Beijing...quite simply i will not pay those prices...i simply wouldnt enjoy the experience (i can afford it but at 1,000RMB that is quite literally some of the most expensive pussy anywhere in the world...way more expensive than Europe, America or Australia). 600RMB is still too much but acceptable...i know times change and all that but in 2006 the price was definetely 600RMB at Hollywood and all of the street mamas outside Landmark hotel...girls at Hardrock were asking more and were ugly, i just laughed and walked away and got some action from the mamas outside...to be honest i didnt bother with Maggies...went there but couldnt see the appeal...maybe timed it wrong...remember starting to get sucked in on the drinks for girls and not liking it much,,,
As with all free markets it comes down to what the market will bear I guess...maybe less girls around now too...i am sure i will work it out when i get up there anyway
I know from Bangkok that going the freebie route can end up being expensive (meals and cinema etc) but the feeling is better and more of a challenge
Thanks again for your thoughts.
Landed at BJ airport at 10:30 PM and checked into the Lido by 11:30. Tired from an all nighter in Almaty but decided to see what was happening in the Pig. Actually very busy with about 25 girls and about 20 guys. Was one stunning Mongolian in there seemed tied up and numerous old regulars. Decided to go to Maggies for one drink just to see the new setup. Not sure I like it yet. Maggies girls looked like they were having a hey day but the Mongolian girls weren't getting a lot of action. Seems to be a lot of lookers. Talked to a new great looking Mongolian and was probably going to grab her after one drink but a previous regular showed up and was looking for ST. For old times sake I took her back but will try to hook up with the other one on this trip. It makes it difficult to try the new when some of your favorites are still around. All in all Maggies just seems "different" not sure if that is good or bad. Will be around this weekend if anyone wants to hookup.
Loveasiangirls
06-18-09, 21:59
Thanks I really appreciate the feedback.
I must say I am ready for a change from Thailand...i am starting to think that I will pursue the freebies in Beijing via the internet and keep the mongering for Shenzen and surrounding areas.
I think i need to get my head round the pricing in Beijing...quite simply i will not pay those prices...i simply wouldnt enjoy the experience (i can afford it but at 1,000RMB that is quite literally some of the most expensive pussy anywhere in the world...way more expensive than Europe, America or Australia). 600RMB is still too much but acceptable...i know times change and all that but in 2006 the price was definetely 600RMB at Hollywood and all of the street mamas outside Landmark hotel...girls at Hardrock were asking more and were ugly, i just laughed and walked away and got some action from the mamas outside...to be honest i didnt bother with Maggies...went there but couldnt see the appeal...maybe timed it wrong...remember starting to get sucked in on the drinks for girls and not liking it much,,,
As with all free markets it comes down to what the market will bear I guess...maybe less girls around now too...i am sure i will work it out when i get up there anyway
I know from Bangkok that going the freebie route can end up being expensive (meals and cinema etc) but the feeling is better and more of a challenge
Thanks again for your thoughts.
1000rmb way more than in Europe, America or Australia???? I can only talk of America and I wish I could find this. So please tell me where it can be found.
Bad Boy Billy
06-18-09, 23:19
I think i need to get my head round the pricing in Beijing...quite simply i will not pay those prices...i simply wouldnt enjoy the experience (i can afford it but at 1,000RMB that is quite literally some of the most expensive pussy anywhere in the world....Totally incorrect. RMB,000 = approx US$150 / A$200 - there are MANY MANY MANY countries and 1,00's of cities accross the world where pussy is much more expensive than this.
............way more expensive than Europe, America or Australia..Again not correct. Try getting a 20somthing ANYWHERE in USA for US$150 all night or Australia for A$200 all night - it will NOT happen
i know times change and all that but in 2006 the price was definetely 600RMB at HollywoodFrom my experience Hollywood in 2006 was a little more flexible in pricing than now. But Ruskies DEFINITELY were RMB800 ST time then - maybe you are a great negotiastor.
and all of the street mamas outside Landmark hotel....Why would you deal with female touts around Landmark when the whole strip from Sheraton Great Wall back to Lufthansa Centre was awash with freelancers ALL available for RMB200 to 300 ST?
girls at Hardrock were asking more and were ugly,....I do agree with you on this one. 5 or 6 years ago there were some absolute GEMS to be found in HRC - but alas quality did deteriorate as time went on.
...to be honest i didnt bother with Maggies...went there but couldnt see the appeal...maybe timed it wrong.......Not bothering with Maggies was your biggest mistake. It has never ever been any good before midnight - not even in it's hey day - so if you went earlier you may have got wrong impression. To put it in a nutshell - Mongolian girls SLAUGHTER Chinese and Ruskies in terms of service delivery - there is just no comparison. So if you did not feast on the northern herd then you have missed one of lifes great pleasures.
remember starting to get sucked in on the drinks for girls and not liking it much..As I said above - if you went earlier you may well have been roped in by some of the CHINESE drinking girls there. Their job eas to get you to buy them drinks - nothing else - you were never ever going to fuck them. In the NEW Maggies all there girls are now identified with name tags - no more confusion.
As with all free markets it comes down to what the market will bear I guess...maybe less girls around now too...i am sure i will work it out when i get up there anyway..You sound like a much travelled guy - I am sure you will work it out.
I know from Bangkok that going the freebie route can end up being expensive (meals and cinema etc) but the feeling is better and more of a challenge..Billy counts cost not in terms of $$$'s but mainly in terms of TIME. I am only in Beijing usually for 2, 3 or 4 nights each visit - no way I am going to waste TIME on some Chinese w.h.o.r.e whom I might not even get the pants off. Much CHEAPER in terms of TIME to go grab a quality Mongolian w.h.o.r.e and get straight down to business. If you have unlimited time - go the freebie route - it can be very fruitful - just takes time.
In general Bowerboy - Beijing is not Bangkok or Pattaya - nor is it Manila or Angeles City - if you are looking for this type of w.h.o.r.i.n.g expedition then you will be wasting your time in Beijing.
Each major city around the world has it's own unique P4P scene - Beijing is no different. It is unique. It can be sensational fun. Best advice I can give is RTFF - then go back and RTFF again. There is a multitude of info posted here by guys who really do know what they are doing. Trust me - if there was ever a chance of QUALITY pussy in Beijing at RMB600 or thereabouts - Billy will have had it and would have shared this info with others.
Enjoy Beijing Bowerboy - keep safe - and treat the girls well.
Bad Boy Billy
06-18-09, 23:22
All in all Maggies just seems "different" not sure if that is good or bad. You are so right my friend - it does FELL difdferent.
But it's STILL Maggies - it's STILL full of Mongol girls - enjoy it - and BTW fuck the regulars - life is too short - go with the new ones.
Thanks for the comments and all very valid...if 1,000RMB is for long time then that is more acceptable for sure...i was under he impression that 1,000RMB was for a short time.
I am a BIG beliver in RTFF and always do so before posing questions here...that is why I was shocked to get the girls in Hollywood in 2006 for 600RMB....i was expecting it to be 800RMB but the first girl I approached (and she was the best girl there in my opinion) asked only for 600rmb...i was very surprised at the time....on subsequent nights i told girls i paid only 600 previously and they seemed to accept it without issue.
That is definetly correct also about my friend getting a mongolian outside Maggies for 400RMB all night.....mind you though he didnt talk about prices before the act, just act her bak to room and then gave her 400RMB in the morning...no complaints from the girl.....personally i dont like this method as can't live with the uncertainty but this modus operandi always works well for him...
Good luck anyway and i will report my findings....probably wont report on the usual spots as enough said already and I would like to sniff out some of the less trodden ground (if there is any)...
Sebastian My
06-19-09, 02:55
Performance inversely related to looks? Isn't that the case of all girls.
I am afraid you speak much wisdom. I only wish it was not true as I tend to always go for the best looking ones and golly gosh have I had some horrible experiences.
My favourite example was in Bangkok, I tend to find a regular and stay with her. My current favourite in Bangkok is by any definition a model class. ChangMai born, 175cm, probably weights no more than 40kg and with the extensive cosmetic surgery those girls sometimes go through to attract the better class of customers or Japanese. But when it comes to getting a decent blow job, forget it, and as for the deed, all I can say is she lies back and thinks of Thailand, and does little else. It took me over 2 years but I have come to the conclusion if I want a good looking bird who provided sub-standard carnal pleasures, I am better off buying a playboy magazine and getting Mary Palmer and her four/five daughters some action.
These days experience counts high in my criteria, but the looks still have to be ok. This is why I like Beijing, Mongolians and Russians have a very level of experience and I tend to like cold mechanical attitude of the Russians – I find it hot, although most guys would not. As for Mongolians, attitude it a big plus for them – just make sure they don't draw too much blood while they claw away at you during the act, especially if you have to wear a white shirt to work the next day.
Sebastian My
06-19-09, 03:14
Thanks I really appreciate the feedback.
I must say I am ready for a change from Thailand...i am starting to think that I will pursue the freebies in Beijing via the internet and keep the mongering for Shenzen and surrounding areas.
I know from Bangkok that going the freebie route can end up being expensive (meals and cinema etc) but the feeling is better and more of a challenge
Thanks again for your thoughts.
I understand your situation. I can make the following comments;
1. If you speak mandarin you have significantly more options.
a) Befriend a girl from a KTV (a local only, not a high class one) or a massage/sauna establishment and build a list of phone numbers of girls you can call. Most of these girls will work in Beijing for at least 12 months.
b) Do the freebie bit, but try the disco's around the workers stadium, lots of young students can be found - hang around the bars.
c) Get on the web and try and hook up with someone on a local collab site.
2. If you have your own place and you live alone.
a) When I had an apartment in GuoMao, about 8 years ago, I found after about 12 months the Chinese girls I brought back more then once started calling me when business was bad, they were lonely, or they wanted to watch TV in comfortable environment. (I think this may be still the case) They would often offer themselves for very little or nothing if they thought they had some form of relationship with you. This can be risky, but can get you some good experiences. My major problem in the end was I could not get rid of them. This was one reason why I went Russian, if they though I had a western woman in my room they did not get so angry when I told them I was busy, but if they thought it was another Asian bird - I had a lot of problems.
b) If you bring a freebie back to your apartment, this was even more applicable.
Shenzhen is not for the faint hearted, while I have spend many evening wandering around 2nd wives village near the markets, looking for the pink lights in the door ways - this is not an easy option (although its cheap). Try the courtyard out the front the the cruise hotel in shekow after 10pm - lots of reasonable looking providers at reasonable pricing who understand the special needs of foreign devils.
Bad Boy Billy
06-19-09, 04:05
Good luck anyway and i will report my findings....probably wont report on the usual spots as enough said already and I would like to sniff out some of the less trodden ground (if there is any)...Yes please do - we are all open to new ground.
I have not been in Suzy Wongs for like 12 months - maybe worth a look there.
Vics and Mix at workers stadium for sure - I have never been to Babyface in Beijing but try that - am really looking forward to your reports.
That is definetly correct also about my friend getting a mongolian outside Maggies for 400RMB all night.....mind you though he didnt talk about prices before the act, just act her bak to room and then gave her 400RMB in the morning...no complaints from the girl......
Well, then he outright cheated her. The nice thing about the Northern Sisters is that they are professional and they assume that you are professional also. If they think you know the rules, no money is being discussed. Nothing is charged before the act. Before they leave, you hand them the money. Most of the times, they don't count it - at least not in front of you. The GFE can't be better.
That girl THOUGHT she would get the usual rate. I bet you friend never got another girl at M's - their telegraph system is quite efficient.
A Chinese girl would have yelled, screamed and would have tossed objects.
In the rare case that a Mongolian girl (usually fresh off the train from UB or from somewhere else) tries to bargain or demand "taxi money," a quiet "you know the rules and so do I" usually does it.
Well, then he outright cheated her. The nice thing about the Northern Sisters is that they are professional and they assume that you are professional also. If they think you know the rules, no money is being discussed. Nothing is charged before the act. Before they leave, you hand them the money. Most of the times, they don't count it - at least not in front of you. The GFE can't be better.
That girl THOUGHT she would get the usual rate. I bet you friend never got another girl at M's - their telegraph system is quite efficient.
A Chinese girl would have yelled, screamed and would have tossed objects.
In the rare case that a Mongolian girl (usually fresh off the train from UB or from somewhere else) tries to bargain or demand "taxi money," a quiet "you know the rules and so do I" usually does it.
I second that. I have been to quite a few countries and in terms of professionalism and GFE there is nothing like a Mongolian sister, in my not so modest opinion.
By the way, on cost, I think someone should write a PhD about this, but my feeling is that - excluding North America - the investment for quality is largely the same everywhere.
I normally stay in Hilton Chaoyang and tend to start the night at the Pig. However, this time I will be staying in the Hilton Wangfujing and am wondering if there is a bar like Pig or Den closer to that hotel (the Lido is quite far from there). I know there are (at least used to be) a lot of Chinese hookers on those streets, but I cannot say I have ever met a Mongolian there. Any tips?
By the way, I assume Hilton Wangfujing is as girl friendly as Hilton Chaoyang, or is that wrong?
Well, then he outright cheated her. The nice thing about the Northern Sisters is that they are professional and they assume that you are professional also. If they think you know the rules, no money is being discussed. Nothing is charged before the act. Before they leave, you hand them the money. Most of the times, they don't count it - at least not in front of you. The GFE can't be better.
That girl THOUGHT she would get the usual rate. I bet you friend never got another girl at M's - their telegraph system is quite efficient.
A Chinese girl would have yelled, screamed and would have tossed objects.
In the rare case that a Mongolian girl (usually fresh off the train from UB or from somewhere else) tries to bargain or demand "taxi money," a quiet "you know the rules and so do I" usually does it.
Right on Zhuren. I do not think I have ever taken a Norhtern Sister home with me that negotiated prior to the act or explicitly asked for money. The few I met in Maggies that tried, I avoided.
In general, 800-1200 RMB depending on how well you know the girl and what other type of relationship you have with her is sufficient. But, even if your relationship is deeper than a one night pick up, she will still calculate the value at approx. 1,200 per night she spends with you. Spend less on her (food, rent help, gifts, etc) and she will begin mysteriously being less available...:) Give her 400 RMB on the first night for an overnight, and you are a marked man in BJ.
okay, being a newbie on the beijing board, here is the information i have gleaned from rtff about what seems to be the star attraction of the beijing p4p scene and a good place for a fng like myself to go on my first visit to this diverse city. let me start by saying that i am sure that i share the attraction of the "northern sisters", but i have yet to experience it as they don't seem to come as far south in china as where i currently reside (shenzhen).
1. maggie's is the "hotspot" in beijing which a rich history of fulfilling mongering dreams.
2. getting there early is not worth the effort, as it doesn't get started until midnight.
3. the chinese ladies will ask for money upfront, mongolians are more demure and won't ask, but do not try to take advantage of this.
4. it was better before the olympics, but seems to making a slow, if continuing comeback.
5. the fee is 800-1000 quai for st and 1000-1500 lt.
the part i am missing is the location and landmarks for public transportation (if any), also whether there are other clubs nearby worthy of checking out or is the scene rep001tered around the city.
any information you would care to share with me along these lines would be greatly appreciated. this will be my first opportunity to compare north vs south.....china that is....
tia
sky
Zhuran your post was true to the word. The Mongolian girls for the most part are trusting and the good ones never count their money in front of you. They trust you will treat them fair. I don't have a problem with the 400 RMB if it was agreed upon prior to leaving Maggies but 400 RMB in the morning after probably a great experience was just not right. This was a rip off not something I would brag about or be proud of.
I stopped inthe Pig last night around 8:30 to check the action although it was early. Ran into Sammy and 3 of his friends having a beer. It seemed to be a slow night with only a handful of Chinese girls hanging around Sammy being Sammy decided all the Chinese girls needed a shot so he proceeded to buy enough shots for everyone in the bar including the few guys lucky enough to be there. After the shots a Chinese girl yelled " we are hungry" and low and behold Sammy ordered 6 pizzas. (ONLY SAMMY) By this time it was close to 10 and Sammy informed me that he had text 10 sisters but he thought 4 may be back in Mongolia. In a matter of the next 45 minutes we had 15 Mongolian sisters to play with. " Only Sammy" could organize a party like this. By this time we had 8 or 9 guys in our group and the party had begun. At midnight the group of at least 20 ventured on to Maggies. A few drinks, a few dances and some idle talk and we were pairing up for the night. Although there were most of our favorites there, there was a sprinkling of the new younger breed of sister. One of my favorites from previous trips asked me to do her a favor and take a new young sister who has just started in the business less than a month ago. That is the beauty of these girls they help their own. By the way I have a new favorite now. For those of you that happened to be in the Pig last night from 8 to 12 you witnessed the true King of Beijing in action. I know and I am sure there are others who have a great relationship with the sisters but only Sammy could get 15 to a bar in less than an hour. Sammy thanks for a great night and I am sure that everyone last night thanks you.
Zhuran your post was true to the word. The Mongolian girls for the most part are trusting and the good ones never count their money in front of you. They trust you will treat them fair. I don't have a problem with the 400 RMB if it was agreed upon prior to leaving Maggies but 400 RMB in the morning after probably a great experience was just not right. This was a rip off not something I would brag about or be proud of.
And that's why we become protective of them and give cheaters a very hard time.
the part i am missing is the location and landmarks for public transportation (if any), also whether there are other clubs nearby worthy of checking out or is the scene rep001tered around the city.
sky
correct summation. http://www.maggiesbar.com/map.html
Yes i do tend to agree that the way he did it (not talking price then giving 400RMB in the morning) is really quite wrong....i agree that he has ripped her off and has not honoured the code as it were..This is his modus operandi and also that of many others and personally I do find it dishonorable and it is not something I would do...
The flipside to the argument (and just playing devils advocate here for a moment) is that someone somewhere along the line has driven the "going rate" at Maggies and other such places to a level that is absurd for this part of the world....i guess though i am talking from the perspective of a guy who really is not looking for the GFE....i just want them in and out without the idle small talk and all that.
I completely agree that he has been dishonourable and scorn this type of behaviour.....how long has 1000 RMB been the going rate for? Just out of interest.
Sebastian My
06-20-09, 10:48
3. the chinese ladies will ask for money upfront, mongolians are more demure and won't ask, but do not try to take advantage of this.
sky
the chinese girls work for the bar and are their to just talk to you. that was the original raison d'être of the bar when it started out. always remember that.
the part i am missing is the location and landmarks for public transportation (if any), also whether there are other clubs nearby worthy of checking out or is the scene rep001tered around the city.
sky
i suppose the key landmarks are the ritan park, the british embassy and the generally all round loved north korean embassy, god bless them. as for other clubs, there are a number of russian clubs east and north east of maggies, absentia, chocolate, a russian rest/club on the other side of the park whose name always escapes me and of course hollywood. to the west you will find the bar in the kerry centre hotel and a good german restaurant. most other good places are a good distance away.
on a non-related subject. i read an earlier report one of the russians and her client were followed and busted in a 5 start hotel. i did confirm one of the russian girls did get busted in a 5 start hotel very recently, not sure if she was followed, or if the hotel staff reported her, i suspect the former. i am also not sure if the client was western or asian, i suspect asian, or if they by-passed the normal 2 taxi routine and went in a single car. i must point out this is not common at the moment, only 2 girls i know have got into trouble in the last month, and one was arrested out the front of chocolate, for some reason i am unsure of. so beware, i have a bad feeling times are going to get difficult once again.
The flipside to the argument (and just playing devils advocate here for a moment) is that someone somewhere along the line has driven the "going rate" at Maggies and other such places to a level that is absurd for this part of the world....i guess though i am talking from the perspective of a guy who really is not looking for the GFE....i just want them in and out without the idle small talk and all that.In Beijing you can find 200 RMB girls as well as 5000 RMB girls.
You don't have to go to Maggies. You can't expect to take out a hot young Mongolian there for 400 RMB LT, but there are plenty of Chinese girls elsewhere who would go for it. On the flip side, some clubs here cater to rich Chinese businessmen and government officials.- the Chinese "models" there start at 2000 RMB for ST, making Maggies scene look like an outright bargain.
The market sets the fair price for the quality (plus expectations) at each venue and level.
George 6969
06-21-09, 20:21
Just coming back from China, after a long time of not being there, I can confirm that Beijing is back to normal.
As mentioned before The Pig is relatively dead. Some ugly girls and not a very nice atmosphere.
Hollywood had been closed during my stay as Absenta one of my favourites during the "Prohibition period".
A new star for me is Club Chocolate on Ritan Street and opposite the Ritan Hotel. A perfect place with a nice atmosphere. It was crowded every evening and gets busy around 11.00. Nice people, reasonable prices and a nice selection of normal and working girls. All the Girls around the bar on the right hand when you come down the escalator are professionals. All coming from CIS countries. Had a nice time with Yulia from Novosibirsk, not a real stunner but a great personality. Was not sure when I started to talk to her if she is a WG. Had some dances and leave to my place, without even start to ask for money. Stayed until the next morning and gave me a nice BJ for the day start. She left without asking for something but i gave her $ 200 for her air ticket.
Meggies was back to the old status. The only funny thing was that some girls can get in alone some need a male partner to get in. One of my old friends told me that they want to control the access of Mongolian girls. The biggest change to the old times was that a lot of chinese girls are working there now.
Sebastian, George, Zhuren, et al
Hey guys I just wanted to pass along a thanks for taking the time to respond to by inquires. I suspect that for the short number of days I will visit this trip. Maggie's and Chocolate will do nicely.
I know that in Shenzhen, it is very rare to find a cabbie that speaks English, I assume the same is true in Beijing. Having never spent time in Beijing, how is the subway system to use, any quirks that would be of interest?
I will make sure to post a report of my foray "into the breech", if for no other reason than a few chuckles at my expense.
I gather that 1000 RMB is the going rate for a LT with a gal from Maggie's, is that about what I should be looking at in Chocolate as well. When I saw George's report I thought that he had gotten a heck of a deal if for an LT, especially for a CIS gal.
It is kind of funny, we don't get too many CIS ladies down south, and they are at a "premium". It seems they are more plentiful in the northern parts. I saw a couple at a sauna in Tianjin, but even there they charged a premium price and I don't think either of them was too interested in going with a "Gwailo". I suspect they feel they have to work harder to satisfy the western types.
Don't mean to ramble. just wanted to acknowledge the help.
Sky
p.s.One more ?, any recommended hotels near Ritan Park area? It may make the "crawl" home from the bar easier on the knees....
Bad Boy Billy
06-22-09, 07:05
Received the following pm recently - anybody else receive it?
Looking for some cool guys to be...............................
Will you be in Beijing next month for 3 weeks, and are you interested in being in a movie?
P.S you are face won't be shown
Thanks in advance,
Wxxxx
Billy will have to start practicing his moves - gonna be immortalised on celluloid.
The Chinese girls work for the bar and are their to just talk to you. That was the original raison d'être of the bar when it started out. Always remember that.
Sebastian is correct, the Chinese girls at Maggie's work for the bar and generally speaking they will not go home with you. Recently they have been allowing in Chinese working girls, and you can tell them apart from the bar staff because they do not wear Maggie’s name tags.
On a side note, I have found that Chinese girls in general ask for money up-front. Perhaps this is because they tend to be ripped off more often. One could also argue that their performance leaves something to be desired, and they want to ensure they get the full amount before they disappoint. I always offer to pay 1/2 up front, and explain that the 2nd half will be paid after the fact, if everything is satisfactory. If a girl will not agree then I send them packing - the experience will never be worth the money. On the plus side, if you do go with the same Chinese girl a 2nd time they typically do not demand money up front. At this point you have proven you will not rip them off, and they have proven they can perform, otherwise why would you take them a 2nd time?
Sammy
Hey Guys,
I will ask one more question. I know it doesn't pertain directly to our stated goal, but permit me. Any recommends for shopping areas. I would like to find a set of golf clubs that maybe were "seconds" or the like. I have heard that there are lively pearl markets and sporting goods, clothes, etc in Beijing. We have a good place in Shenzhen, but they don't have the brand name golf equipment. Thanks in advance1
Sky
FernandoAlonso
06-22-09, 10:38
Hey Guys,
I will ask one more question. I know it doesn't pertain directly to our stated goal, but permit me. Any recommends for shopping areas. I would like to find a set of golf clubs that maybe were "seconds" or the like. I have heard that there are lively pearl markets and sporting goods, clothes, etc in Beijing. We have a good place in Shenzhen, but they don't have the brand name golf equipment. Thanks in advance1
SkyThe saying here goes, you already play golf or you still have sex. So how can this topic come up here?
Just joking.
The areas you mentioned do the trick, there are golf shops beside the Kunlun Hotel. If you have more time go to the plces South 3rd and fourth ring where the locals do a lot of shopping. More the wholeseller atmosphere buyt if you know prices AND quality the plafces to buy, big selection and good prices
FA
Member #3421
06-22-09, 14:11
Hey Guys,
I will ask one more question. I know it doesn't pertain directly to our stated goal, but permit me. Any recommends for shopping areas. I would like to find a set of golf clubs that maybe were "seconds" or the like. I have heard that there are lively pearl markets and sporting goods, clothes, etc in Beijing. We have a good place in Shenzhen, but they don't have the brand name golf equipment. Thanks in advance1
Sky
I'll add one to the mix in a similar vein: and suggestions for gifts for Chinese co-workers/hosts, things that would be valued and hard to get in China? And no, I'm not thinking sex toys or exotic brands of condoms.
Spent a weekend out in Beijing first time for about a year, visiting places that used to frequent earlier times. Overall, seems life is largely back to how it used to be few years back.
Massage action in WangJing, that was substantially reduced in terms of offering on the menu during Olympic times, seems back to usual. Tried both 419 and 418 (MeiLe massage). Seems the old no 16 of 419 (that is the best massage provider I have encountered during my long stay in the city) is now in 418, seemingly as some kind of senior or mamasan, not a masseuse (not sure though). The 39 that used to give decent service in 419 still does, was delighted to see old customer back sucking her tits and groping her wet pussy. Tried no 10 in 418, seems trained by the old no 16, though not exactly as good HJ experience. Prices seem to have remained at 160RMB. Will try to check 417 later this week to see how is their offering and whether FS still provided.
Stopped by a beer in Pig, seems fairly quiet place these days, mostly the long-running regulars (Chinese) that are getting old and even more unattractive, and few Mongolians. Only one attractive enough for me that left shortly I walked in - only to meet her in Maggies where I went to have a look couple of hours later. Bumped to this relatively good looking, though a bit cold, again and chatted a bit. Introduced herself as Inga (or Inka), economics student from UB as many other gals. Was living with a friend, so could not go with her once I had not booked a hotel and will/can not take girls to my friend's apartment where staying. She told she will move to hotel on Tue and game me her number, telling price as 1000RMB, not sure ST or LT, will check later.
I RTFF and saw couple of references to "crazy Inga" from earlier times, wonder whether she indeed was the same or some other Inga (can anyone describe the old crazy Inga, or know whether this one is the same?) - she felt a bit cold and at least in the bar not as someone who is crazy in bed, though you never know. On the pretty side though.
Then a bit later in the night bumped to my surprise to another Mongolian i went out with some 4-6 years ago couple of times, called Jenny. She used to be a slim, petite girl with small perky tits and shaven pussy. Age and lack of body maintenance had made a bit of a trick for her; had lost quite some of the attractiveness she once had. Agreed to get in touch later in the week, possibly arranging a hotel for a night to refresh old memories.
Also paid a visit to Suzie Wong; seems that place does not have much P4P, at least surficially not. Need to go and check Den and some of the clubs around Gongti to see how life is in those places these days.
One of the girls in Pig told about some new place called Chocolate or something like that. Anyone have any info about how is that like?
So in general, when thinking back to beginning of the decade, action in Beijing is not that much different, neither good or bad. Maggies looks different but action not much different (though the good ol' times of Gongti East location are of course always better...)
Hey Guys,
I will ask one more question. I know it doesn't pertain directly to our stated goal, but permit me. Any recommends for shopping areas. I would like to find a set of golf clubs that maybe were "seconds" or the like. I have heard that there are lively pearl markets and sporting goods, clothes, etc in Beijing. We have a good place in Shenzhen, but they don't have the brand name golf equipment. Thanks in advance1
Sky
Right across the street from the Lido, next to the Eudora restaurant, is a little shop that sells golf clubs. If he does not have what you are looking for in stock he can get it within 24 hours. I have had friends purchase from him in the past and they have always paid reasonable prices and got good quality.
Sammy
FernandoAlonso
06-23-09, 04:47
Thanks Sammy for your attention, there was a crucial need of some kind of Beijing FAQ. However, I disagree on the approach you advise on this last topic. My modus operandi is to be very explicit (massage sex), to try to get a price on the phone (max. 800 RMB FS ST plus taxi). As you said, pictures are not their pictures so there's no use to stick to a girl because she's beautiful on a picture. Call the next number if it doesn't work. The alternative m.o. (some girls don't want to discuss price on the phone, which means for shure they will try to overprice you) is that when the girl arrives (if you like her), don't let her start anything. Talk price at once, and your attitude should let her understand she will go back home if the price is not OK. The argument is "the other incall girls I had were charging 800", that's enough. No girl is stupid enough to back home watch TV instead of cashing 800 RMB.
My preferred incall channel now is getting girls who speak nearly no English, but are younger and less professional, and always full GFE and playfull. Quality varies 7/8. The drawback is that it's difficult to communicate with mamas in English. But with some efforts it works. The best is to communicate by SMS because they can always find someone to translate (Chinese SIM cards cost i think 480 RMB, good investment) (send name, room number, hotel name, hotel phone, massage sex 500 + taxi, it is usually enough). Price for FS ST is 500 plus taxi (40/70 depending where you stay). The girl gets 300 and mama 200. For a good GFE service, I give them altogether 600 incl. taxi which leaves them a small tip.
TEL [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] name is Mary.800 FS for a phone incall??? Why would you do that. Even at the pigs you still can get a good looking one for that and you can sample.. Not talking about SW and our Northern Sisters that play in another league regarding quality.
a sim card is never 480 RMB, between 50 and 100 at any given kiosk, including some phone credits. Never ever buy at the airport. Get a phone at Carrefour for another 200 RMB and you are set.
just my 2 cent
FA
Bad Boy Billy
06-23-09, 07:05
Just some advance notice guys - weekend of July 17, 18 and 19 will be 'CELEBRATION' time in Beijing for 2 reasons:
1. Billy and Njtraveller will be in town
2. Sammy will be out of town.
YES YES YES - I can hear the whooping and hollering going on already
Look forward to seeing some of you guys then
Sebastian My
06-23-09, 08:19
Sebastian, George, Zhuren, et al
I know that in Shenzhen, it is very rare to find a cabbie that speaks English, I assume the same is true in Beijing.
Its not as bad as shenzhen, but any english will be minimal.
Having never spent time in Beijing, how is the subway system to use, any quirks that would be of interest?
The underground is much more extensive these days, you can even get to the hard rock cafe by train and if you are ok with a bit of a walk you can get to Sanltun and even hooters if you are willing to walk for 20min. Its 2RM to travel, just pass over 2RM to the ticket lady or use coins in the ticket machines. There is an english button.
I gather that 1000 RMB is the going rate for a LT with a gal from Maggie's, is that about what I should be looking at in Chocolate as well. When I saw George's report I thought that he had gotten a heck of a deal if for an LT, especially for a CIS gal.
Chocolate is not a monger place, so its all ad-hoc. The last russian working girl left a few days ago, so all the girls are from the stan's or are girls who want to pick up a little cash on a very infrequent basis. Its a good club however. Turn up after midnight.
I saw a couple at a sauna in Tianjin, but even there they charged a premium price and I don't think either of them was too interested in going with a "Gwailo".
The CIS girls prefer Asian clients - many will not go out with a western guy.
Any recommended hotels near Ritan Park area? It may make the "crawl" home from the bar easier on the knees....
Traders Hotel is close, nice and not too expensive. But all Hotels require a taxi trip back - unless you stay in the Ritian Hotel, which is a hotel designed for Russian clients.
The Tanuki
06-23-09, 09:47
Just some advance notice guys - weekend of July 17, 18 and 19 will be 'CELEBRATION' time in Beijing for 2 reasons:
1. Billy and Njtraveller will be in town
2. Sammy will be out of town.
YES YES YES - I can hear the whooping and hollering going on already
Look forward to seeing some of you guys then
So, BBB, for once you'll have to buy your own shots! :p
How many girls are left in town? I know Aggi is still there at least...
Tankuki (wanting to party in BJ again someday)
FernandoAlonso
06-23-09, 14:50
I'll add one to the mix in a similar vein: and suggestions for gifts for Chinese co-workers/hosts, things that would be valued and hard to get in China? And no, I'm not thinking sex toys or exotic brands of condoms.Anything from your home country thta is considered expensive and exotic. Chocolate, perfume, jewellery (e.g. evenSwarowski), personal care, liquor, wine. Everything can be bought in China these days, but if it is expensive there you give face.
FA
Decided to do the toughest test:
Maggie's on Mondays.
To my surprise, M's was well populated. Only got a seat by the bar because a bargirl with a "Maggie's" pin was shooed away.
Northern Sisters appear to have to no problem receiving entry. Also, the evil discrimination has stopped. There are now Chinese females without the "Maggie's" pin (the pinned are off limits are and there for the sole purpose to make you buy lots of drinks.)
I'd say, Beijing's prime singles bar is back to normal again.
Decided to do the toughest test:
Maggie's on Mondays.
To my surprise, M's was well populated. Only got a seat by the bar because a bargirl with a "Maggie's" pin was shooed away.
Northern Sisters appear to have to no problem receiving entry. Also, the evil discrimination has stopped. There are now Chinese females without the "Maggie's" pin (the pinned are off limits are and there for the sole purpose to make you buy lots of drinks.)
I'd say, Beijing's prime singles bar is back to normal again.
Does Maggies still check for membership for anybody looking Chinese? Is the sign for members only still by the front door? Now that's discrimination.
Bored In Beijing
06-24-09, 08:51
Was in Maggies on Thursday. This was my first visit in about 3 years. We got there just before midnight and I was a little concerned that it was too quiet, however, within half an hour the place was full and rocking with a number of stunners. Very similar to the old days. It was interesting to see the Chinese working girls in there.
There were no obvious controls on the doors as a number of girls walked in unescorted. Regarding pricing, I had been paying RMB500 to RMB800 for ST (and the occasional LT) back in the day so the RMB1000 does seem a little high for me, especially in these economic times. Anyway, my mate took a Mongolian home for the night, didn't catch her name but she was not the most stunning there, and he ended up agreeing on RMB500. Having said that the pricing did seem rigid at RMB1000 for the stunners.
All in all a good evening out.
Bored In Beijing
06-24-09, 09:40
Found an incall massage girl on the internet about a month ago. She seemed legit. She said up front that she only did HJ with no BJ or FS. I went to her place and she did a reasonable massage followed by an excellent HJ (no rushing). She seemed like a very nice girl and gave me a very pleasant hour for RMB400.
Visited her a couple more times and on the 3rd visit the HJ turned into FS. Not bad but I think I prefer the HJ.
If anyone is interested this girl is easy too find through Google. She has dozens of ads.
Bored In Beijing
06-24-09, 09:49
If anyone is interested in a girl with a large rack I found a little cracker in a BBS in Maizidian.
If you start from the German butcher, cross the road and head west (toward the Sheraton). Cross the bridge, pass the market and cross over the traffic lights. There is a local housing block at the lights with 2 (or 3) BBS on the ground floor. Go to the last one (furthest west). There is a young girl there called Quan (I could be wrong with the spelling/pronunciation). She has the most amazing rack I have seen on a Chinese girl in Beijing. Didn't have time to get the full pricing or whether she did FS but got a decent HJ for RMB200. I am sure better pricing can be negotiated.
Does Maggies still check for membership for anybody looking Chinese? Is the sign for members only still by the front door? Now that's discrimination.
There never was a membership. I should know, I'd qualify for the lifetime Platinum card. "Membership" was a ploy to keep the locals out. They hoped that if foreigners meet foreigners, no Chinese are harmed. Well, that didn't keep them from being closed.
These days, I see several Chinese there. I think, if you don't go there dressed in the typical Beijing summer attire (t-shirt rolled up, halfway, naked belly sticking out) you will have no problem getting admittance. In the unlikely event that the guard intercepts you, don't understand a word of Chinese, say "What, I don't understand" in English, and you are in.
Found an incall massage girl on the internet about a month ago. She seemed legit. She said up front that she only did HJ with no BJ or FS. I went to her place and she did a reasonable massage followed by an excellent HJ (no rushing). She seemed like a very nice girl and gave me a very pleasant hour for RMB400.
Visited her a couple more times and on the 3rd visit the HJ turned into FS. Not bad but I think I prefer the HJ.
If anyone is interested this girl is easy too find through Google. She has dozens of ads.
Bejing is out of muy itineraries, but thanks for the hint.
Still how can one interested find this girl thorugh Google?
no name, no location, no MP name, nothing... goggle "incall massage Bejing will results in a trillion of referrals...and all with dozens of ads..
I am afraid you have to give more infos to help the fellow mongers interested to this HJ specialist.
There never was a membership. I should know, I'd qualify for the lifetime Platinum card. "Membership" was a ploy to keep the locals out. They hoped that if foreigners meet foreigners, no Chinese are harmed. Well, that didn't keep them from being closed.
These days, I see several Chinese there. I think, if you don't go there dressed in the typical Beijing summer attire (t-shirt rolled up, halfway, naked belly sticking out) you will have no problem getting admittance. In the unlikely event that the guard intercepts you, don't understand a word of Chinese, say "What, I don't understand" in English, and you are in.Yes, I must echo that statement. If you're ethnically Chinese, just never talk to them in Chinese (only talk to them in English), and look respectable. If they give you any hassle (they shouldn't), then just say that you've been here before and last time there wasn't a problem, so what gives this time. I was there last weekend, and I hadn't been there in a very long time so I doubt they recognized me, but they didn't even raise an eyebrow when I walked in. YMMV, of course.
FernandoAlonso
06-24-09, 15:07
Found an incall massage girl on the internet about a month ago. She seemed legit. She said up front that she only did HJ with no BJ or FS. I went to her place and she did a reasonable massage followed by an excellent HJ (no rushing). She seemed like a very nice girl and gave me a very pleasant hour for RMB400.
Visited her a couple more times and on the 3rd visit the HJ turned into FS. Not bad but I think I prefer the HJ.
If anyone is interested this girl is easy too find through Google. She has dozens of ads.400 RMB for an hour massage and a HJ, seems pretty steep to me. Why should she do FS if she gets away with this pricing? In my experience few, if any semi-pros or legit girls would ever admit they do FS, but if a girl likes you, everything goes. What was the FS rate, by the way?
Gentlemen, times are tough. Gone are the days when BSDs showed up with bundles of red Maos burning in their pockets. But these are not the times to go cheap on our Northern Sisters. These are the times to invest.
Ever wondered how Sammy can come up with 15 girls inside of 20 minutes, with just a few text messages? Because he has a big heart and is generous. Sammy is not a BSD. He's a nice guy who cares. And who gets a big return on his investment.
You can do that too. Especially now when times are tough. Not with bickering whether it's 800 or 1000. Jeez, what is it for you? For her, it's whether she can pay her rent and whether the kid at home (most have one) will get clothes and something to eat. Business is way down. Even the stunners have maybe one or two customers a week. Now is your time to show some measured generosity.
Take them out to dinner. If you have a little work assignment, think of them. Most are better educated than their local colleagues. Many have full university degrees, studied abroad. Need a Russian-English-Chinese translator? Many can do it. I know a guy who has 5 ex-Maggie's girls working at his office, and he's happy with them. Need to entertain a client discretely on a business trip? Many look good in a business suit, can take care of secretarial jobs during the day and make your client happy at night.
I guarantee you: Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to heaven. If you are one of those really bad unrepentant sinners, you may still go to hell. Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to the only place in hell that has A/C.
It has been a while since I visited Beijing for a visit. My visit last week in Beijing was comforting to see that the night life in the capital is still alive and happening.
Besides all the local KTVs my host took me to, I found a gem of a massage service near my hotel at the CBD area. The girls were young but experienced and extremely friendly and nice. I was quite tired from all the meetings and drinking so for two nights I ordered girls to my room at night for a nice two hour massage then a happy ending for less than three hundred rmb. The girls were clean. Pretty. Spoke a little English and I was told they do offer more for just a bit more.
My Chinese is pretty bad but I think they do incall as well. I ordered to hotel. I think one night I got back to my room around 4 in the morning and had quite a few drinks. I called and a girl arrived less than 15 minutes later...and just completely relaxed me. She was from Sichuan...total knock out body with silky smooth skin. I wanted to but I think i passed out...alas.
Anyway, anyone needing inexpensive and discreet services, landline is five eight two zero four nine zero eight.
I hope you have as much fun as I had last week. Went to a KTV for locals, a KTV for Koreans, a ktv for Japanese, a spa, and of course the massage place.
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Gentlemen, times are tough. Gone are the days when BSDs showed up with bundles of red Maos burning in their pockets. But these are not the times to go cheap on our Northern Sisters. These are the times to invest. ... Especially now when times are tough. Not with bickering whether it's 800 or 1000. Jeez, what is it for you?I must agree with this.
It's too easy to think, "hey, the girls are hungry, how can I exploit this?" But I'd like to think many (if not most) mongers reading this forum are decent people and know these girls are in a difficult situation even in the best of days.
There's a fine line between mongering and exploitation. In tough times we can easily get into a "predatory" relationship -- where one side unfairly "uses" the other.
Sometimes that's just unavoidable, but hopefully from time to time we can have a different kind of relationship -- where the guys and the girls help each other, for mutual benefit and satisfaction.
Zhuran you are absolutely right with your report. Treat them well and you shall be rewarded. I was the beneficiary of this on this trip. I witnessed Sammy's mastery and you are right Sammy can get 15 Mongolians in 30 minutes with some texts and he even gets the new girls because all the sisters know Sammy's generosity to them. I ended up Friday night and Saturday night with a newer girl that came with a friend who knew Sammy. I treated her right for 2 days. She never left until noon each day. Sunday afternoon she calls and asks if she can just sleep in. my room no pay. I said OK and she slept in the afternoon ended up leaving next morning at 6. Had sex 2 times and she refused money saying she only came to sleep. Was gone Monday night but had her come back for one more night before I left. Overall thanks to Sammy I found a gem in the rough. This girl is young, sweet and a keeper. Although I have had a couple of Mongolians that were unreasonable for the most part if you treat them fair you will be rewarded. You know what is fair and so do they. If you give them a couple hundred RMB extra in most cases you get more than your moneys worth
Beijing Fox
06-25-09, 01:27
Hi Zhuren, this sounds really interesting. I'm intrigued. :-) How and where can I find a Mongolian to adopt? :-)
Gentlemen, times are tough. Gone are the days when BSDs showed up with bundles of red Maos burning in their pockets. But these are not the times to go cheap on our Northern Sisters. These are the times to invest.
Ever wondered how Sammy can come up with 15 girls inside of 20 minutes, with just a few text messages? Because he has a big heart and is generous. Sammy is not a BSD. He's a nice guy who cares. And who gets a big return on his investment.
You can do that too. Especially now when times are tough. Not with bickering whether it's 800 or 1000. Jeez, what is it for you? For her, it's whether she can pay her rent and whether the kid at home (most have one) will get clothes and something to eat. Business is way down. Even the stunners have maybe one or two customers a week. Now is your time to show some measured generosity.
Take them out to dinner. If you have a little work assignment, think of them. Most are better educated than their local colleagues. Many have full university degrees, studied abroad. Need a Russian-English-Chinese translator? Many can do it. I know a guy who has 5 ex-Maggie's girls working at his office, and he's happy with them. Need to entertain a client discretely on a business trip? Many look good in a business suit, can take care of secretarial jobs during the day and make your client happy at night.
I guarantee you: Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to heaven. If you are one of those really bad unrepentant sinners, you may still go to hell. Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to the only place in hell that has A/C.
Loveasiangirls
06-25-09, 05:08
While I am more into freebies, I certainly know that the Mogolian sisters are legends. I only went one time to Maggies with a friend visiting from back home. Two things preventing me from taking one home. First, before midnite they are not too keen on LT as they hope to get a ST first. But for me 2am is too late, I want to get some sleep at that time. Secondly, to bargain is fine at the Silk Market but in this case it gives me an uncomfortable feeling. So what is the right price for LT and ST that will make them happy?
Gentlemen, times are tough. Gone are the days when BSDs showed up with bundles of red Maos burning in their pockets. But these are not the times to go cheap on our Northern Sisters. These are the times to invest.
Ever wondered how Sammy can come up with 15 girls inside of 20 minutes, with just a few text messages? Because he has a big heart and is generous. Sammy is not a BSD. He's a nice guy who cares. And who gets a big return on his investment.
You can do that too. Especially now when times are tough. Not with bickering whether it's 800 or 1000. Jeez, what is it for you? For her, it's whether she can pay her rent and whether the kid at home (most have one) will get clothes and something to eat. Business is way down. Even the stunners have maybe one or two customers a week. Now is your time to show some measured generosity.
Take them out to dinner. If you have a little work assignment, think of them. Most are better educated than their local colleagues. Many have full university degrees, studied abroad. Need a Russian-English-Chinese translator? Many can do it. I know a guy who has 5 ex-Maggie's girls working at his office, and he's happy with them. Need to entertain a client discretely on a business trip? Many look good in a business suit, can take care of secretarial jobs during the day and make your client happy at night.
I guarantee you: Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to heaven. If you are one of those really bad unrepentant sinners, you may still go to hell. Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to the only place in hell that has A/C.
Hi Zhuren, this sounds really interesting. I'm intrigued. :-) How and where can I find a Mongolian to adopt? :-)
Just hang out with a few, You'll find one worth adopting, I promise. Want to bet ? :)
Bored In Beijing
06-25-09, 07:13
Bejing is out of muy itineraries, but thanks for the hint.
Still how can one interested find this girl thorugh Google?
no name, no location, no MP name, nothing... goggle "incall massage Bejing will results in a trillion of referrals...and all with dozens of ads..
I am afraid you have to give more infos to help the fellow mongers interested to this HJ specialist.
Actually, of those trillion referrals only a handful are for incall and most are for the same girl. Look for magic hands or massageinbeijing.spaces.live.com
Enjoy
Bored In Beijing
06-25-09, 07:15
400 RMB for an hour massage and a HJ, seems pretty steep to me. Why should she do FS if she gets away with this pricing? In my experience few, if any semi-pros or legit girls would ever admit they do FS, but if a girl likes you, everything goes. What was the FS rate, by the way?
True, but she is nice and her apartment is clean and pleasant. The FS rate was the same as the massage.
I realise I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members but seriously after reading the posts here it is clear to see why exorbitant pricing is now the norm at Maggies and other such venues..,and to add insult to injury it seems that 1,000RMB is the going rate for a mongolian WITH A KID!!! This is prostitution not a charity!!!! No wonder they all came flocking when Sammy called...its payday from just about the only customer in town!! Girls are asking this because guys seem to be paying it for some strange reason....i dont understand Beijing yet but I DO understand market dynamics....exact same thing happened in Beijing when the Japanese started frequenting all the expat haunts such as Cowboy and Nana...all of a sudden the price shot up because thats what the Japanese were prepared to pay...
You guys that are trying to start the charity thing are almost spoiling it for the girls in some ways...Maggies and other expat places are completely off the list for me now with those prices and I wonder how many other guys feel the same way....if it was 600RMB then perhaps many more guys would go there and business would increase....there is an economic crisis going on out there and why should their "business" go unaffected and indeed pricing go up as you suggest...
There are thousands of Mongolians (and Thai's and Vietnamese and Chinese etc etc) that are NOT hookers...it is a choice they make to be a hooker and millions survive without having to do the same thing.......
No, this pricing thing is crazy to my eyes for this part of the world. I apologise in advance if i have annoyed anyone with this post but I have to say it how I see it...
Horny Cock
06-25-09, 10:06
Hmmm. 600 all night, eh? Did she come with a bag over her head? I came here when the yuan was still pegged 8 to the dollar, and the rack rate (in more ways than one) at Maggie's was 800 RMB = $100. Exchange rates shifted to the detriment of the $. Our Northern Sisters are usually well educated and know their currencies. So the rate rose to 1000 RMB, which equaled EUR 100. Even that is no longer true, but the rate stuck.
Whether that buys you LT or ST depends on the time of the day, your staying power, the market, and the zodiac. Not to forget the rate of inebriation of your counterparty.Today I check, 1USD = 6.8 RMB. So if we agree to stick to 800 RMB for ST, the girls are getting 100USD ST. Since when and why do the northern sisters get smart to raise the rate to 1000 RMB and we have to comply? Why do we have to comply when they shift the 'trading' currency from USD to Euro since they don't come from and live in either of these regions? Anyway, I don't mind paying and don't waste too much time and energy to argue the 200RMB if she is both a stunner and a performer which is most of the cases I experience in Maggies' but for Hollywood takeout, I will have to think twice. Just my 2 cents.
I realise I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members
Very perceptive.
I realise I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members but seriously after reading the posts here it is clear to see why exorbitant pricing is now the norm at Maggies and other such venues..,and to add insult to injury it seems that 1,000RMB is the going rate for a mongolian WITH A KID!!! This is prostitution not a charity!!!!
For 1000 RMB you get a stunning tigress in your bed, who will do everything you want, and more. And if you treat her well, price can go down dramatically. Etc. Etc.. A bargain in my eyes.
Why didn't you just stay in BKK?
Why didn't you just stay in BKK?
You said it, Fredo, but I must agree.
Bowerboy, you have a lot to learn. Like every newcomer, I would go quietly about it.
I'd not introduce myself with my screen name for a while if I were you. Unless you want to become highly intimate with your right hand ...
"Maggies and other expat places are completely off the list for me now with those prices." Good. That solves that. Now stop ranting.
There are some places outside 5th ringroad that serve migrant workers ...
Personally, I'm sick and tired of the price discussions. If you have to ask and all that ....
A lot to learn indeed...walk into bar, pick prostitute, pay her (or overpay as the case would seem to be), go home and enjoy....yes, a lot to take in there.
If people refused to pay those prices then I can assure you the price would come down...enough phone calls from the folks back home asking for money and one too many nights of refusing to go with a client for 600RMB or 800RMB will soon change their mind....that is the way the world works and that is the way the market works (or should work if common sense prevails)..the pendulum swings both ways....from what you are saying they are struggling for business....so hey, the good times are over and now it is (or should be) time to start getting more realistic with pricing....but it will never happen if people continue to pay over the odds and encourage others to do so....you guys have become the "market makers" by looking back at previous posts.
Anyway not my problem I guess. Seems that some guys really get it, such as the guy who paid 500 RMB and the other guy I know who paid 400 RMB....and others dont.
It amazes me when people bring their western financial perspective and apply it without considering the broader picture (and I have been guilty of this plenty of times myself).
Good luck anyway.
Beijing Fox
06-25-09, 13:41
Hi Comrades, I'm having problems connecting from my PC within China to this site or other sites of 'fine' contents. All my proxy servers don't work anymore and the search on the intrernet doesn't bring up any new anymore.
Is this a new onslaught by the Chinese government to restrict the freedom of information in this country?
If I'm wrong and just to dumb to connect, I would appreciate, if someone could pm me a working proxy server URL. Thanks in advance BJF
Loveasiangirls
06-25-09, 15:32
Hi Comrades, I'm having problems connecting from my PC within China to this site or other sites of 'fine' contents. All my proxy servers don't work anymore and the search on the intrernet doesn't bring up any new anymore.
Is this a new onslaught by the Chinese government to restrict the freedom of information in this country?
If I'm wrong and just to dumb to connect, I would appreciate, if someone could pm me a working proxy server URL. Thanks in advance BJF
If you were using Google to find a proxy you were out of luck as it was blocked for a couple of day s. Better to get a VPN.
If people refused to pay those prices then I can assure you the price would come down...enough phone calls from the folks back home asking for money and one too many nights of refusing to go with a client for 600RMB or 800RMB will soon change their mind....that is the way the world works and that is the way the market works (or should work if common sense prevails)..the pendulum swings both ways....from what you are saying they are struggling for business....so hey, the good times are over and now it is (or should be) time to start getting more realistic with pricing....but it will never happen if people continue to pay over the odds and encourage others to do so....you guys have become the "market makers" by looking back at previous posts.
It amazes me when people bring their western financial perspective and apply it without considering the broader picture (and I have been guilty of this plenty of times myself).
Good way of looking at overpaying just cause Americans used to "tipping."
I remember staying at a high end Macau hotel for the first time. I asked for something, got it, and tipped the maid. She was like "WTF, this is not necessary." Tipping is NOT necessary or expected in many Asian countries, well aside from Tour Groups, which is stated and told up-front. But I understand about tipping a WG. She worked hard and gave thumbs up service. Let her work for the tip instead of agreeing to the outrageous standard prices.
China is a bargaining society. Meaning they inflate prices expecting you to counter and set your own prices. Often they'll still make a profit, but at least the customer get the illusion that he's made a great deal. And yeah, prices are different every minute, so you-make-your-own-miles. Bargain with the WG based on information you've learned (ie, do some RTTF) and let her know that perhaps tips are a-coming (like a carrot hanging in front of the horse's mouth).
I realise I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members but seriously after reading the posts here it is clear to see why exorbitant pricing is now the norm at Maggies and other such venues..,and to add insult to injury it seems that 1,000RMB is the going rate for a mongolian WITH A KID!!! This is prostitution not a charity!!!! No wonder they all came flocking when Sammy called...its payday from just about the only customer in town!! Girls are asking this because guys seem to be paying it for some strange reason....i dont understand Beijing yet but I DO understand market dynamics....exact same thing happened in Beijing when the Japanese started frequenting all the expat haunts such as Cowboy and Nana...all of a sudden the price shot up because thats what the Japanese were prepared to pay...
You guys that are trying to start the charity thing are almost spoiling it for the girls in some ways...Maggies and other expat places are completely off the list for me now with those prices and I wonder how many other guys feel the same way....if it was 600RMB then perhaps many more guys would go there and business would increase....there is an economic crisis going on out there and why should their "business" go unaffected and indeed pricing go up as you suggest...
There are thousands of Mongolians (and Thai's and Vietnamese and Chinese etc etc) that are NOT hookers...it is a choice they make to be a hooker and millions survive without having to do the same thing.......
No, this pricing thing is crazy to my eyes for this part of the world. I apologise in advance if i have annoyed anyone with this post but I have to say it how I see it...
I concur with this post. Working girls are selling their wares. Apart from a tip for good service here and there no charity of feeling sorry is required.
Naturally girls will exploit your weakness. Always bargain for services so that they do not feel their pussy is made of gold.
It is not like China is running out of girls to have sex with. In China girls can be had from anywhere and everywhere.
If you want to donate money do it to relief agencies. Prostituition is strictly business based on market price. Occassional you overpay but that should not be the norm.
Hi Comrades, I'm having problems connecting from my PC within China to this site or other sites of 'fine' contents. All my proxy servers don't work anymore and the search on the intrernet doesn't bring up any new anymore.
Is this a new onslaught by the Chinese government to restrict the freedom of information in this country?
If I'm wrong and just to dumb to connect, I would appreciate, if someone could pm me a working proxy server URL. Thanks in advance BJFTry any other browser like Baidu or Yahoo and keyword search "proxies"
Good luck!
I agree with the majority. We are tired of hearing the pricing. As everyone knows there are different rates and different quality of girls. No one argues that a Russian in BJ costs $200 USD but feel that a great Mongolian isn't worth 1000 RMB for LT. Chinese possibly 800 RMB LT. Slamming Sammy and the rest of us for overpaying doesn't solve anything. I spent 4 days out of 5 with a great girl who gave me everything I wanted and more sometimes for 20 hours a day. Yes in some countries I could have gotten it cheaper and in China I could have gotten it cheaper but I got exactly what I was looking for. How many times can you say that with the lowest priced girl in the country. The girls don't like Sammy and the rest of us because we overpay. They like us because we treat them like a girlfriend rather than a hooker. It is a unigue concept but it works.
Bad Boy Billy
06-25-09, 23:48
and whether the kid at home (most have one) Most have one?
Are you sure on this point mate?
You and I sat in The Den recently with 5 Mongols - did any of those have a kid?
I might be wrong - but I think that Oxx might be the only Mongol I have ever fucked who has a kid - I do try to avoid MILF's if I can.
I guarantee you: Adopt-a-Mongolian, and you will go to heaven.Mate that night at The Den - you saw me try to ADOPT a Mongolian - unfortunately she DIVORCED me befoe I even had a chance tio get her out the door.
Can you suggest a Plan B?
FernandoAlonso
06-25-09, 23:50
True, but she is nice and her apartment is clean and pleasant. The FS rate was the same as the massage.Fair enough, 400 RMB for an hour ST in Beijing is not out of range, especially not if from an ad girl. Just be aware the chances she is legit are very, very small. Personal experiences. But this is no reason not to enjoy your finding! And if you like and PM me here phone number, I urgently need more incall options...
PS: Before any clever guys feel the need to flame or reinitiate this stupid pricing discussion (there is a wonderful post from the past somewhere here where a hooker teaches a manager economics that tells all, believe me these girls are clever on these economics...), yes you can outside the 5th ring and get it cheaper, but if you do not know Beijing in and out and speak good mandarin it is no easy to find, if you want some quality. I got top rated service from 130 RMB BBS girls and lousy service for 1000 from a mongolian, BUT both cases are the exception. Enough of this
FA
Bad Boy Billy
06-26-09, 00:13
I realize I am not exactly endearing myself to the senior members...Not exactly correct – you are entitled to your opinion as are others.
and to add insult to injury it seems that 1,000RMB is the going rate for a Mongolian WITH A KID!!! ...No not true – you can find plenty of girls in Maggies with no kids – god I love those new young uni students who float into town for a short stint to earn their tuition fees.
Maggies and other expat places are completely off the list for me now with those prices...Now don’t take this the wrong way – but I cannot imagine the Mongolian girls will lose much sleep over this.
I it is a choice they make to be a hooker and millions survive without having to do the same thing....... ...Survive yes – have any quality of life? NO.
Billy is no ‘savior’ to the masses – but I do understand the fact that the overwhelming majority of sex workers world wide are ‘forced’ into prostitution by financial needs alone – it is not a choice in the same way you and I choose to do what we want.
I No, this pricing thing is crazy to my eyes for this part of the world. ...On this point I totally agree – it does seem way overpriced.
I made this exact point in a post some weeks ago when I had girls quoting me RMB2,000 LT – that equals US$300 – as I said then – no girl anywhere in Asia is worth US$300 in this climate.
BUT
Beijing is an EXTREMELY expensive place for the girls to live – their overheads in BJ are way higher than other Asian destinations
I apologies in advance if I have annoyed anyone with this post but I have to say it how I see it...Why apologies?
You posted your thoughts as you see it – many will not agree – on most of your points whilst I understand where you are coming from - I too disagree.
Footnote: Billy LOVES Beijing. Billy LOVES Mongolians. The experience you will get with a Mongol IMHO is a combination of the wild crazy sex you will get with a Brazilian combined with the total GFE you will get with a Filipino.
THAT IS WHAT BILLY LOVES ABOUT MONGOL GIRLS – THAT IS WHY BILLY IS HAPPY TO PAY RMB1,000 to RMB1,500 LT.
Keep up the good work guys – keep posting – we all need to inform and be informed.
Most have one?
Are you sure on this point mate?
You and I sat in The Den recently with 5 Mongols - did any of those have a kid?
2 of them. Many have one at young age. They just don't tell ya.
Mate that night at The Den - you saw me try to ADOPT a Mongolian - unfortunately she DIVORCED me befoe I even had a chance tio get her out the door.
That one, E, happens to be already adopted by 4 guys who do the Beijing relay. Available for multi day engagements if all 4 repeats happen to be out of town. She's one of BJ's best and knows it. She, and the other 4, were there because they were friends, not to make money.
The girls don't like Sammy and the rest of us because we overpay. They like us because we treat them like a girlfriend rather than a hooker. It is a unigue concept but it works.
Some people treat people like humans. Some people treat people like dirt. Some people have respect. Some have disdain. The reaction they receive usually reinforces their behavior. Case closed.
Member #2051
06-26-09, 02:51
I have a one night stop over in Beijing and am looking for a 4 or 5 star hotel a short taxi ride to Ritan Park. Does anyone have recommendations? Don't want to spend more than about 700 RMB.
Also, I've RTFF and haven't seen much discussion on hotel lobby action recently. Are there any hotels that are particularly good for this (doesn't have to be in the Ritan Park area). I used to stay at the Grand Hyatt and there were many attractive choices there working the hotel lobby bar.
Thanks for any input.
Today I check, 1USD = 6.8 RMB. So if we agree to stick to 800 RMB for ST, the girls are getting 100USD ST. Since when and why do the northern sisters get smart to raise the rate to 1000 RMB and we have to comply?
Currencies can be challenging. Actually, 800 RMB equal $117. But they don't pay their rent in dollars. They pay in Yuan. Your $100 aren't worth the 800 RMB they used to. They buy you only 683 RMB. Blame it on the senators and treasury secretaries who riled against the supposedly undervalued Yuan. Your tax dollars at work.
Why did something that did cost 800RMB 4 years ago cost 1000 today? Because things get more expensive. My rent is up (more.) My food is up (much more.) The salaries I'm paying are up (a lot more.)
Do you have to comply? No.You always can go home alone. Or you can go to Tokyo, where the same services would set you back $1000 (once you've been to Tokyo, the "no Asian girl is worth $300" has been totally abandoned, or you have turned into a monk.)
If you look at it in dollars alone, you may have to divorce yourself from the China=cheap idea. Hungary and Poland may be better options. But hurry. The Fed is cranking up the printing presses, and the dollar will buy less nookie the world around. If it gets really bad, you may want to stay in China after all. Since last July, the $/RMB rate has been virtually frozen at 6.83 -. If the dollar goes into a free fall, let's hope China will keep the rate frozen.
Try any other browser like Baidu or Yahoo and keyword search "proxies"
Good luck!
Friends, be EXTREMELY careful with the "free" proxies. They are free for a reason. Anything you run through them can (and most likely will) be recorded on their end. Every userid, password, everything you type.
Also, some of them are set up by people who are at odds with the Chinese government. Using them can invite trouble.
A paid VPN is the best solution. It also protects you from your email being read, your data being stolen etc. when using Wifi access points, hotel internet etc.
Okay Gents, bear with me just a few moments.
First I want to thank all of you for your taking the time to offer help when prompted, especially B.B.Billy, Zhuren, and Sammy. You can't imagine how much difference it made!
Second, until yesterday I was convinced that of all the places I had been in the world ( and that is a few) Argentina has the sexiest, most passionate, best looking girls in the world when put into a group. Brazil and Columbia shared second/third and well the rest were really dependent on individual ladies.
Well that closely held belief took a serious "blow" yesterday/last night.
I arranged to meet a recommendation yesterday ,one of the "Northern Sisters" for a late lunch. When she "breezed" into Chocolate I thought I would have a "early release" right that moment. She was an absolute vision. We had a drink, went to another location had a nice dinner, nice conversation, and every move she made gave me a pang of desire. Went back to my hotel, and it looked like we had been together for years, and every guy in the place was jealous.....yummy!
Well, her skills were on par with her looks, she turned me every way but loose. The only possible disappointment was I don't think she really liked DATY, she more endured it, and skillfully kept it as short as possible. Well as the topper, I managed to get her standing up (every 165 long legged centimeters of her) in high heels bent over a chair in front of the mirror.
It was a life experience moment to be sure. Needless to say the finish was memorable. After a moment I showered and as I walked out of the shower, she asked me." (with a straight face) are you ready for some more?"
I thought she was kidding, but no, after a brief respite, she used her generous oral skills to coax another "low yield" but spectacular finish.
In other words, I am officially hooked! Jeez what a woman.....
We cuddled for a while and she asked me if I was going to Maggie's later. I told her I didn't think I had anything left and if so wanted to share it with her, which garnered a smile. I told her I would like to see Maggie's in action and she said she might go later.
Well fast forward to about 12:00, dropped in Maggie's and it was just getting started, I got the buy me a drink request from one of the girls,which I declined. Stayed about 45 mins, and decided since I was just window shopping, to take a look at Chocolate. It reminds me of an upscale version of a few So. Amer. clubs I have visited, except on a larger scale. It is difficult to know for sure which are working girls and the "civilians". Although I suspect some are both, depending on the night and the offer. I will say one thing, the dancers are smoking. I am sure they are off the menu, but DAMN!
I went back to Maggie's (by the way the DJ there really knows his audience and spins some good tunes) and who do I see, but the girl from earlier in the day. Not really a surprise, since she told me she might go out. She was with two friends (fellow Northern sisters) and seemed to be engaged with another gentleman. I deferred and just gave an acknowledgement wave at an appropriate time. She motioned me over and introduced her friends to me. She told one of them "this is reason I couldn't talk to you earlier today", which drew a big laugh all around.
Well I wasn't sure if the guy was going to take her home and wasn't sure whether I was up to another session, but she kept trying to get me to take her friend home. On any other day I would jumped at the offer, as she was almost equally desirable, but for some reason I felt strange pulling another girl, especially her friend, within hours of being with her. I know it is silly, but anyway I continued to decline.
I was truly impressed by the rest of the available talent in Maggie's last night. I kept getting looks and smiles even though I was obviously engaged with another group of girls/guys etc. I am not sure how to tell which are the part timers/ students, but am sure this will necessitate further study!
I extended my stay one day to do some sightseeing and also for a return visit to Maggie's.
I was thinking about trying to find the Den if it is truly a restaurant and have a bite to eat and maybe see the sights there before heading off to greener pastures.
I am now a firm believer in the looks/talent of those from the land of Ghanghis Khan!
Maybe I will meet up with some of you there tonight...not sure how I would know, but it would be fun.
Again, thanks for the help......and please suppor the "Adopt a Northern Sister Program", IMHO a worthwhile investment!
Again, thanks for the help......and please suppor the "Adopt a Northern Sister Program", IMHO a worthwhile investment!
Congratulation! Well done. Who was it? First three letter of her name, hair color and chest size will suffice.
I have a one night stop over in Beijing and am looking for a 4 or 5 star hotel a short taxi ride to Ritan Park. Does anyone have recommendations? Don't want to spend more than about 700 RMB.
Also, I've RTFF and haven't seen much discussion on hotel lobby action recently. Are there any hotels that are particularly good for this (doesn't have to be in the Ritan Park area). I used to stay at the Grand Hyatt and there were many attractive choices there working the hotel lobby bar.
Thanks for any input.
Best time to get a room in BJ. The Kerry Center, the Wanda Sofitel, and more go for around $100. Much lower if you go 4 star. The Centro Bar at the Kerry Center can be a hot spot. But I'd go to Maggie's
DoItUnderwater
06-26-09, 21:26
Hey fellow mongers,
I have enjoyed many of your reports (Yes I RTFF). I will be coming to Beijing in a couple weeks. I am hoping someone can give me a link to a seachable map for Beijing so I can find some of the locations mentioned here before I get to China and can't get to this site.
Here is a link to such a map in Shanghai. I find it very helpful I finding the good spots.
http://www.smartshanghai.com/maps/smsh_map.php
Thanks and happy endings to all
Bad Boy Billy
06-27-09, 00:41
until yesterday I was convinced that of all the places I had been in the world ( and that is a few) Argentina has the sexiest, most passionate, best looking girls in the world when put into a group. Brazil and Columbia shared second/third!I hear you brother - but Billy can NEVER go past the Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s as I see beauty in a slightly different way.
I will say one thing, the dancers are smoking. I am sure they are off the menu, but DAMN!On this I agree 100% - fuck I saw a Chinese girl dancing there 2 weeks ago who I think is the best looking Chinese female I have EVER seen - and could she dance!
She motioned me over and introduced her friends to me. She told one of them "this is reason I couldn't talk to you earlier today", which drew a big laugh all around.!Mate these girls understand what they do and WHY they do it - it's just part of their sensational unique make up.
I was truly impressed by the rest of the available talent in Maggie's last night. I kept getting looks and smiles even though I was obviously engaged with another group of girls/guys etc.!!Don't you just love it?
IMHO Maggies is the second best bar in the world - just gets pipped by Help in Rio De Janeiro
I am not sure how to tell which are the part timers/ students, but am sure this will necessitate further study!!!Easy to find out - just pick the youngest / less comfortable looking ones and go talk to them - they will soon tell you. Look for girls standing alone / girls standing with crossed arms holding a drink / crossed legs as they stand - any indication that they just do not look like they are part of the furniture.
If you can pick up on these points fair chance you will find a student or 2 who have just breezed into town for a short period.
I am now a firm believer in the looks/talent of those from the land of Ghanghis Khan!!Aren't they just an amazing race of women?
Again, thanks for the help......and please suppor the "Adopt a Northern Sister Program", IMHO a worthwhile investment!Mate it is always a pleasure to see reports from guys who have RTFF and then proceeded and enjoyed. That is the very reason for the existence of this web site. Great report SR - clearly you enjoyed - no bleeting about prices - just a happy customer - and the fact that the girls tried to 'share' you amongst themselves indicated you treated her well and you are now 'in' their circle of desireables.
One final thing - I will be back in BJ in 2 weeks - please pm me her details so I can give her the once over if I do not already know her
Maybe Member #2051 can check this hotel out. Good luck. The hotel is Citytel Inn on NanHeYan Ave., just North of DongChang’an Jie,. Only 168 RMB for twin bed. Room is small, but clean, nice shower and furnishing. Very close to Ritan park.I walk in the small lobby where two guard are chilling. I never make eye contact, but they look up and then back down to their books or something. Never say a word, so I say girl friendly hotel.
Hi Sammy, Bad Boy Billy, Zhuren, Hi everybody
I am new in this forum.
Excuse me for my english, very poor. It's difficult for me to find the best places in the forum.
I wiill go In China next Wednesday.
I saw in the forum that you know very noce the city.
Can you help me and suggest me the 3 or 4 best place to go (I can't receive girl in my hotel bacause I will sleep in a backpaker hotel.) in Beijing.
Sauna, Soapy, Barbershops and others place if necessary. For a short time.
Not very expensive. Max 800RMB but ideally it's around 500 or less.
I note the Maggie's but I can't go with the girl in my hotel, what is the solution for a Short time.
If you have some time to answer, thanks by advance.
Best regards,
Paris
Travelmonger
06-28-09, 01:37
After 6 years of living in beijing i feel its a good time to share with you all.
Firstly, I find the net an excellent tool for mongering and screening chicks.
Anything from language exchange to friends first to one to fs to pay is available.
none stopped me.
But now I wish to begin traveling about in china and picking up online and seeing how I do.
I have a trip planned. Dalian, Yantai, Shenyang and Qingdao.
Any advice?
After 6 years of living in beijing i feel its a good time to share with you all.
Firstly, I find the net an excellent tool for mongering and screening chicks.
Anything from language exchange to friends first to one to fs to pay is available.
none stopped me.
But now I wish to begin traveling about in china and picking up online and seeing how I do.
I have a trip planned. Dalian, Yantai, Shenyang and Qingdao.
Any advice?
How about starting by reporting on some of your experiences over the past 6 years?
What have been your best strategies using the Internet?
Which areas, or "market segments" in Beijing can you report on?
Brothers are more likely to help, if you "go first".
Just my opinion.
P13
Hi all,
Just found this site on my 1st day in Beijing and 1st day mongering, and wanted to say thanks for all the helpful and entertaining info. Here is a recount of my adventure. Hopefully you find it useful / entertaining / totally ridiculous. I'm no short story writer so I'll keep it chronological.
Day 1 (Sun). Flew into Beijing, met up with some friends.
Day 2 (Mon). I was tired from jet lag and didn't feel like hitting the bars. After reading Boulayman's posts, I decided to call "Lily" at around 10: 30PM (number is in post from 5/24). A girl answered the phone and never told me her name or company. I said my friend told me to call since this is my first time here, and was hoping for someone to come over tonight. Then she understood, and said the rate was 500 rmb (probably because I spoke Chinese). She asked what kind of girl I wanted, so I start describing Jessica Alba She said ok, she will look around, should be 30 minutes. Well 12AM rolls by and she finally says someone is on the way. At 12:20AM, the girl calls me and asks me to come to the lobby. I see a rather plain girl in jeans and tee (6 at best), and she thinks someone followed her to the hotel. Maybe police. She felt unsafe so she just left. Night over.
Day 3 (Tue). I get a morning call from the Chinese government, saying someone on my plane got H1N1 and I have to be quarantined (everyone within 3 rows of the person). Then two people in full body suits came to my hotel room, questioned me, tested for fever and throat culture, and transported me by ambulance to the quarantine facility (a run down hotel near the airport). Per government regulation, I was locked in the hotel until Sunday with nothing to do.
Day 8 (Sun). After missing the whole week, I felt like tearing it up on Sunday. Met with a couple friends and got plastered. At about 1AM, I went to Maggie's and was amazed by the sheer number of girls ( 2:1 ratio). There were a lot of good lookers, many taken by older white guys. So I sit down and get a drink. This cute girl (maybe a 7.5) sitting next to me tips me her glass (cheers). Being COMPLETELY new to this, I start to talk in Chinese, but she does not understand. She says she is half Korean half Mongolian, and speaks English, Russian, Mongolian, and Hebrew (she was purportedly in Israel for 5 years). She said she just arrived in Beijing but is leaving soon to go back to school, so I can't tell if she's a ho or what, and she keeps chatting with her friend next to her. Then she randomly tells me that its her birthday. I said I didn't believe her, and it kind of went downhill from there. After several turns of wanting to dance and not so, I decide to stop beating around the bush and ask if she wants to go back to my place. She says after another round of drinks, so I get them an OJ and beer. She started rambling about how she's poor and needs 3500 rmb for a plane ticket or something. At this point, I was tired of the mind game, and started chatting up this cute Chinese hostess. We talk and play dice with the bartenders until closing.
Day 9 (Mon). Decided to try Lily's number again. This time she sent a much better girl without issue. She was kind of a butter face (face = 6, body = 8, avg = 7), but her awesome body and GFE totally made up for it. It was kind of hard to believe she was a Beijing local. She was all up for LT but I said I had to get up early to catch my flight. So I gave her 600 rmb and was finally satisfied: D
Well that's my story, thanks for the number Boulayman, and thanks all for the background. I'll try some other stuff next time (including not getting quarantined)!
M Ho
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Bad Boy Billy
06-29-09, 01:55
Day 3 (Tue). I get a morning call from the Chinese government, saying someone on my plane got H1N1 and I have to be quarantined (everyone within 3 rows of the person). Then two people in full body suits came to my hotel room, questioned me, tested for fever and throat culture, and transported me by ambulance to the quarantine facility (a run down hotel near the airport). Per government regulation, I was locked in the hotel until Sunday with nothing to do.You poor prick - god I feel so sorry for you.
I heard exactly the same story on radio here in Australia - an Australian guy in IDENTICAL circumstances - he was sitting 3 rows behind a guy who had a raised temperature.
For those who do not know - last visit on June 8 - as our flight which originated in Singapore landed in Beijing - health authorities came on board and supposedly tested EVERYBODY'S temp with a device held to your forehead. They go row to row front to rear and test EVERYBODY.
Any raised temp will mean all people in that row - and 3 immediate rows to front and rear - will all be quarantined - UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE.
Master Ho - tell us more mate. My info is hotel had no phone - no english TV - no internet - you were locked in your room with no outside contact at all for 5 days. Can you confirm this.
Makes you kinda wary about travelling to China right now. I assume it is same if you land in Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Nanjing wherever - please chime all you guys who have visited recently.
Horny Cock
06-29-09, 06:05
You poor prick - god I feel so sorry for you.
I heard exactly the same story on radio here in Australia - an Australian guy in IDENTICAL circumstances - he was sitting 3 rows behind a guy who had a raised temperature.
For those who do not know - last visit on June 8 - as our flight which originated in Singapore landed in Beijing - health authorities came on board and supposedly tested EVERYBODY'S temp with a device held to your forehead. They go row to row front to rear and test EVERYBODY.
Any raised temp will mean all people in that row - and 3 immediate rows to front and rear - will all be quarantined - UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE.
Master Ho - tell us more mate. My info is hotel had no phone - no english TV - no internet - you were locked in your room with no outside contact at all for 5 days. Can you confirm this.
Makes you kinda wary about travelling to China right now. I assume it is same if you land in Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Nanjing wherever - please chime all you guys who have visited recently.Maybe the easiest solution is to fill in any hotel than the one you have booked so that the government is not able to trace you down?
Beijing Fox
06-30-09, 00:17
Was the same, when I came flying into Beijing from Europe some days ago.
I still don't know whether there was any swineflu case on the plane, because I gave them a fake tel number and address.
My advice to everybody, do the same, then they cannot molest you.
You poor prick - god I feel so sorry for you.
I heard exactly the same story on radio here in Australia - an Australian guy in IDENTICAL circumstances - he was sitting 3 rows behind a guy who had a raised temperature.
For those who do not know - last visit on June 8 - as our flight which originated in Singapore landed in Beijing - health authorities came on board and supposedly tested EVERYBODY'S temp with a device held to your forehead. They go row to row front to rear and test EVERYBODY.
Any raised temp will mean all people in that row - and 3 immediate rows to front and rear - will all be quarantined - UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE.
Master Ho - tell us more mate. My info is hotel had no phone - no english TV - no internet - you were locked in your room with no outside contact at all for 5 days. Can you confirm this.
Makes you kinda wary about travelling to China right now. I assume it is same if you land in Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Nanjing wherever - please chime all you guys who have visited recently.
Bad Boy Billy
06-30-09, 00:38
Was the same, when I came flying into Beijing from Europe some days ago.
I still don't know whether there was any swineflu case on the plane, because I gave them a fake tel number and address.
My advice to everybody, do the same, then they cannot molest you.
BJ that is a part solution. If they do actually find a passenger with elevated temp on arrival in proximity to where your sitting then you are still fucked.
I would still love to know if that poicy is still being practised at BJ as we read and type these posts.
Also is it being practiced in SH, SZ, GZ, NJ etc
I am leaving for China soon. This sounds like a good solution. Give the officials a different address and phone number. I would think that they would take you right from the plane and not wait until you get to a hotel. Is there a better solution? Any advice from fellow mongers on how to avoid this situation?
Thanks,
Joe Vato
My advice to everybody, do the same, then they cannot molest you.
Not a good idea. They track you down through the registration system. They have your passport and visa numbers. You just make it harder on them and make them madder. During a recent case, they tracked down the taxi driver, even the poor guy who sold a water melon to a swine flu case. Should they not find you, you'll be toast on exit.
They really should check on departure ...
BBB: Routine very much in effect in BJ.
Bad Boy Billy
06-30-09, 05:35
Any advice from fellow mongers on how to avoid this situation? JV we would all like to know how to avoid this.
My dilemna is that I have a 'non-essential' trip planned for 2 weeks - into GZ and out of BJ.
I am trying to find out from recent arrivals into GZ, SH, SZ, NJ etc if the same practice is being implemented at those airports.
I am seriously considering cancelling China and heading to Phils for a few days instead - I am not an alarmist - just practical as this trip is 'non-essential'.
I am trying to find out from recent arrivals into GZ, SH, SZ, NJ etc if the same practice is being implemented at those airports..
According to my info, same routine at all international arrivals. If it's non-essential, go to the Phils.
Speaking of which: I have been reliably informed that the security measures surrounding October 1 (China's 60th birthday) will be "one step above the Olympics."
Plan your trips accordingly.
Cooler Wolf2
06-30-09, 06:39
According to my info, same routine at all international arrivals. If it's non-essential, go to the Phils.
Speaking of which: I have been reliably informed that the security measures surrounding October 1 (China's 60th birthday) will be "one step above the Olympics."
Plan your trips accordingly.
100% correct. A buddy at one of the embassies confirmed this also.
In addition to the October 1 holiday, expect visas to tighten up again around the end of the year, in preparation for the Expo in Shanghai. While the Expo doesn't mean much to many around the world, the authorities here (Shanghai) will have security measures - and associated clampdowns - in place equal to that of the Olympics (as told by senior government contact).
Zabadak 55
06-30-09, 08:11
I know her very well. I am surprized. She is great. Inteligent and sexy. Should go with you for 800-1000rmb for whole night. Try again.
Tony
Hi all,
Just found this site on my 1st day in Beijing and 1st day mongering, and wanted to say thanks for all the helpful and entertaining info. Here is a recount of my adventure. Hopefully you find it useful / entertaining / totally ridiculous. I'm no short story writer so I'll keep it chronological.
Day 1 (Sun). Flew into Beijing, met up with some friends.
Day 2 (Mon). I was tired from jet lag and didn't feel like hitting the bars. After reading Boulayman's posts, I decided to call "Lily" at around 10: 30PM (number is in post from 5/24). A girl answered the phone and never told me her name or company. I said my friend told me to call since this is my first time here, and was hoping for someone to come over tonight. Then she understood, and said the rate was 500 rmb (probably because I spoke Chinese). She asked what kind of girl I wanted, so I start describing Jessica Alba She said ok, she will look around, should be 30 minutes. Well 12AM rolls by and she finally says someone is on the way. At 12:20AM, the girl calls me and asks me to come to the lobby. I see a rather plain girl in jeans and tee (6 at best), and she thinks someone followed her to the hotel. Maybe police. She felt unsafe so she just left. Night over.
Day 3 (Tue). I get a morning call from the Chinese government, saying someone on my plane got H1N1 and I have to be quarantined (everyone within 3 rows of the person). Then two people in full body suits came to my hotel room, questioned me, tested for fever and throat culture, and transported me by ambulance to the quarantine facility (a run down hotel near the airport). Per government regulation, I was locked in the hotel until Sunday with nothing to do.
Day 8 (Sun). After missing the whole week, I felt like tearing it up on Sunday. Met with a couple friends and got plastered. At about 1AM, I went to Maggie's and was amazed by the sheer number of girls ( 2:1 ratio). There were a lot of good lookers, many taken by older white guys. So I sit down and get a drink. This cute girl (maybe a 7.5) sitting next to me tips me her glass (cheers). Being COMPLETELY new to this, I start to talk in Chinese, but she does not understand. She says she is half Korean half Mongolian, and speaks English, Russian, Mongolian, and Hebrew (she was purportedly in Israel for 5 years). She said she just arrived in Beijing but is leaving soon to go back to school, so I can't tell if she's a ho or what, and she keeps chatting with her friend next to her. Then she randomly tells me that its her birthday. I said I didn't believe her, and it kind of went downhill from there. After several turns of wanting to dance and not so, I decide to stop beating around the bush and ask if she wants to go back to my place. She says after another round of drinks, so I get them an OJ and beer. She started rambling about how she's poor and needs 3500 rmb for a plane ticket or something. At this point, I was tired of the mind game, and started chatting up this cute Chinese hostess. We talk and play dice with the bartenders until closing.
Day 9 (Mon). Decided to try Lily's number again. This time she sent a much better girl without issue. She was kind of a butter face (face = 6, body = 8, avg = 7), but her awesome body and GFE totally made up for it. It was kind of hard to believe she was a Beijing local. She was all up for LT but I said I had to get up early to catch my flight. So I gave her 600 rmb and was finally satisfied: D
Well that's my story, thanks for the number Boulayman, and thanks all for the background. I'll try some other stuff next time (including not getting quarantined)!
M Ho
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I know her very well. I am surprized. She is great. Inteligent and sexy. Should go with you for 800-1000rmb for whole night. Try again.
Tony
Exactly. The correct answer to the 3500 Yuan ticket is : "I can get you the first third of that ticket. Let's go."
Peter Mann
07-01-09, 14:13
Can anyone recommend any reliable outcall agencies in Beijing?
Will be in Beijing for just one afternoon. Wonder if Regency still works (never been there before). Checked Maizidian #39 on the www. It seems that it is now a normal hotel. Has Regency disappeared? Any alternative suggestion?
Johnny Jets
07-02-09, 09:04
Outside the lufthansa centre on Thursday and Friday night last week. Hard rock was completely dead including the band. So went for a walk before bed and there were plenty to choose from. Well dressed as well.
400 rmb for one and next night 500 rmb.
Second one was from earthquake country and this is my third from there. They are like their Sichuan beef, hot, passionate and just so good in bed.
I'm still smiling, best pipe cleaning job I have had in years.
Can anyone recommend any reliable outcall agencies in Beijing?I'm was in Beijing last week and found an outcall agency number through this forum. The girls are not fantastic, but for RMB 600, it is within my budget. Here is the number +86 13520288017. Easier way of communication is through text messaging. Have a fun time!
The bar on the 6th floor of the PARK Hyatt (not the Oriental Plaza Grand) is turning into quite a hotspot. Lots of local talent. Northern talent also drifting there. Usual later in the eve times.
Hi everyone,
I landed in Beijing the 2nd of July: before getting off the plane 2 chinese females with latex gloves and surgical mask took the body temperature of every passenger with a laser thermometer.
Then, in the airport, we had to give at a checkpoint a paper where we had to write down addresses, numbers where we could be contacted and other things (such as symptoms) concerning the H1N1 virus. At this checkpoint there are two infrared body temperature detectors that constantly monitor all the queue detecting all the temperatures. If someone is above a limit (I think it is 37°C) they are asked to put on a surgical mask and to follow an employee (but don't know where they were bringed).
Said that, I just want to say, if someone is interested, that the sauna which I already reported about, located in HuiLongGuan, is back in business. Around 40-50 RMB for the sauna-shower-pool section and then you can choose between 3 services:
488RMB, 688RMB, 888RMB. Unfortunately they do not speak english and my chinese is poor, so I don't know what these services include, except fot the 688 service that is what I choosed.
Hot-Cold water CBJ, FS in all the positions I wanted, DATY. I had no rush and the girl was cute. You can ask for another girl if you don't like the first one who comes, but I don't know how many girls are available.
Again, sorry for my english (but I'm sure that you'll understand what I wrote), and I'll surely report something else, seen that I'll stay here 'till the 26th of this month.
Ricky
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Jessie James
07-05-09, 10:45
Firstly I want to thank those of you that take the time to make reports and pass on your wealth of knowledge to those of us that just RTFF. Since I have a newbie question I thought I would first contribute a little something before I ask so here it goes.
Although I had lived in Beijing nearly three years I am fairly new to the hobby which slowly grew out of curiosity from the many “Massage” business cards that would arrive under my door each week. Eventually I called one and ordered a Zhong Yi An Mo (Traditional Chinese Massage). 30 minutes later a very cute and young girl arrived and gave me the 60rmb one hour long Massage. I got exactly what I had paid for—a standard massage, because I was far too shy to ask which one meant she would touch my penis. Well, after working my way down the menu I found out about the oil massage at average of 160rmb. After months of enjoying this new pleasure one of these girls asked me if I would like “Da shi” (the big thing – meaning ‘sex’). This was 300rmb, and that was the start of it. Nearly 2.5 years ago.
Toward the end of my time in Beijing (early May 2009) I wanted to experience two girls at once and I had also just discovered Craig’s list. I called an agency that advertised young college girls, massage and FS 500rmb, no upsale! I remembered the ad specifically because it was the only one I saw that stated NO UPSALE. I ordered two girls and waited about an hour since they had to travel a long way. One girl was a little chubby but had beautiful full breasts; though she wore sunglasses the whole time since she had a nasty eye infection (a little worrisome right?). The other girl was thin, tall and had a nice smile, maybe a 6 or 7. Just after I closed the door the one in the sunglasses told me that if I wanted (Zui Shufu – really good service) then I should give them more money – so much for the ‘No Upsale’ statement in the ad. She also wanted the money upfront. I told her I would not pay upfront and that if I was satisfied I might give them a little more. All showered and they started with a nice 30 minute oil massage on my back, their 4 hands relaxing me. It went on to CBJ from the one with the glasses while the other dangled her breasts in my face. The glasses girl then got on top of me cowgirl style and began to ride while I was still mouthing the others breasts and trying to get her to let me put my fingers inside, which she finally agreed to. I was feeling like I could pop but I hadn’t entered the other girl yet so we changed condoms and then I went at the other one doggy style. This time the one with the sunglasses was rubbing her breasts on my side and caressing my ass. Right when I was about to cum, she slipped a finger in my butt and massaged it while I came in the other one. All in all it was a good experience but I only gave them the 500 each plus taxi (It was the price on the ad and I didn’t feel like haggling that night) I still have the number if you want it but I have not seen those ads again since I got back to the states.
So, here is my question: Where in Beijing can I get like a soapy where they wash you, rub their body on you, BBBJ and FS? I will be back in Beijing soon and I want to finally experience this. Please message me if you know and thanks again.
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A couple of months ago someone mentioned that there's a lot of hand job shops around qin nian guo lu, but none of them offer full sex. This isn't the case.
Most of the time they offer biao jian first and if you say yes you'll just get a hand job. If you as for blowjobs or sex right away they might switch girls on you since not all of them will go all the way. There are some places that will claim they don't have girls who will have full sex, but it all depends on where the shop is.
If you go from Guang Xi Men station on line thirteen and walk south along the park you'll come to Qin nian guo lu, on your right, in about 5 minutes. Between the park and where the road crosses He Ping Li Lu I've only found one shop for fs, the rest are just hand jobs. That on is the first shop on the south side.
After crossing He Ping Li Lu, there are shops on both the north and south sides of the street. I've found the ones on the north side are open early and they usually have girls for bbj and fs. The quality isn't too bad, usually a 6-8 . Prices are hj100 bbj200 and fs300, but many girls won't do bjs unless you buy fs.
It was my first time in Maggie's this Sunday night. Stayed there from 10.30pm to 02.00. I like that place, I think I will come back there on a Saturday night to see more action. I was there just to see the place, so I hadn't try any mongolian girl. When I arrived it was almost empty, but slowly more girls and more mongers came so it wasn't empty. Don't now how was in the old days, so I can't say if it was full of people or not.
Yesterday I wanted to try the AnLi Lu sauna, found the place following the directions written in the forum, we where welcomed and asked to follow downstairs, asked to sit down on a sofa, but then they asked me something I didn't understand (I know just very basic chinese) and when they understood I can't speak chinese we were asked to leave the place.
So don't go there unless you can speak chinese enough well.
Last thing, yesterday night at 11pm I called Lily's number to have two girls (one for me and one for a friend). 40 minutes the first girl came (I would say a 7) but 'cause of a misunderstanding they sent just one. So I called again and 30 minutes later the secod one arrived.
My friend picked the 7, so I had the second one (6 face 6,5 body).
He enjoyed the hour of fun.
My girl wasn't used to western cocks so I had problems, I couldn't fuck deep or fast or in all positions to not let her feel too pain. So it could go better with an other girl.
Price was 500+taxi as reported before. 60 min is the time of service.
I asked for my friend if it was possible to have an all night service or a longer one (such as 100 minutes) but the girl said only 60 minutes option is available.
Will report something else on the next days.
Ricky
Hey guys,
Could you recommend a good hj/bj place near Shuang Jing? South of Guomao area.
Too paranoid to let a girl into the room (bad experiences), want to find a place I can visit and then just leave.
Much appreciated,
LSE
It was my first time in Maggie's this Sunday night. Stayed there from 10.30pm to 02.00. I like that place, I think I will come back there on a Saturday night to see more action. I was there just to see the place, so I hadn't try any mongolian girl. When I arrived it was almost empty, but slowly more girls and more mongers came so it wasn't empty. Don't now how was in the old days, so I can't say if it was full of people or not.
10:30 is way too early. Sunday is a bad day.
In the olden days, action started at 11:15. Now it's more like 12:30 - 1.
Best days are Fri and Sat. Thu ok. Sun & Mon dead.
Also, a lot of the Mongolians are going home to yak and yurte in Juli - supposedly the only time it's warm in UB.
China Maverick
07-08-09, 09:58
Ricky
Next time if you avail of Lily's services then ask for a short Sichuan girl called Jing Jing (not sure if thats her real name?) - she is a freakin..nympho and I had a great time with her. Since the first pop was good I asked her for a second round and she agreed with some extra cash of course...
However I must warn you that some of the earlier lineups were 4 or 5 (could be laid off factory workers) and I had to pay them taxi fare and ask them to leave...
You may have to speak a little mandarin to get the right one?
Enjoy
CM
It was my first time in Maggie's this Sunday night. Stayed there from 10.30pm to 02.00. I like that place, I think I will come back there on a Saturday night to see more action. I was there just to see the place, so I hadn't try any mongolian girl. When I arrived it was almost empty, but slowly more girls and more mongers came so it wasn't empty. Don't now how was in the old days, so I can't say if it was full of people or not.
Yesterday I wanted to try the AnLi Lu sauna, found the place following the directions written in the forum, we where welcomed and asked to follow downstairs, asked to sit down on a sofa, but then they asked me something I didn't understand (I know just very basic chinese) and when they understood I can't speak chinese we were asked to leave the place.
So don't go there unless you can speak chinese enough well.
Last thing, yesterday night at 11pm I called Lily's number to have two girls (one for me and one for a friend). 40 minutes the first girl came (I would say a 7) but 'cause of a misunderstanding they sent just one. So I called again and 30 minutes later the secod one arrived.
My friend picked the 7, so I had the second one (6 face 6,5 body).
He enjoyed the hour of fun.
My girl wasn't used to western cocks so I had problems, I couldn't fuck deep or fast or in all positions to not let her feel too pain. So it could go better with an other girl.
Price was 500+taxi as reported before. 60 min is the time of service.
I asked for my friend if it was possible to have an all night service or a longer one (such as 100 minutes) but the girl said only 60 minutes option is available.
Will report something else on the next days.
Ricky
I'd have to concur on the latter part. I tried Lily's once, and I got a Sichuan girl who works at a department store. Not that pretty, bad attitude, and DFE. That and there were some personal hygiene issues that made me gag, unfortunately. I only tried Lily's once, and it could have been a fluke. I'll try again and see if the experience is different, but the first time was not the charm.
Ricky
Next time if you avail of Lily's services then ask for a short Sichuan girl called Jing Jing (not sure if thats her real name?) - she is a freakin..nympho and I had a great time with her. Since the first pop was good I asked her for a second round and she agreed with some extra cash of course...
However I must warn you that some of the earlier lineups were 4 or 5 (could be laid off factory workers) and I had to pay them taxi fare and ask them to leave...
You may have to speak a little mandarin to get the right one?
Enjoy,
CM
Meiguoguizi
07-09-09, 00:36
10:30 is way too early. Sunday is a bad day.
In the olden days, action started at 11:15. Now it's more like 12:30 - 1.
Best days are Fri and Sat. Thu ok. Sun & Mon dead.
Also, a lot of the Mongolians are going home to yak and yurte in Juli - supposedly the only time it's warm in UB.
You can dress them up, but you can't take them anywhere.... except to bed.....
Attached photo, in case your considering purchasing a Maggie's t-shirt for your daughter to wear to the mall in Seattle...
FernandoAlonso
07-09-09, 02:56
Maizidian jie ist the street parallel to the 3rd ring behind the Sheraton Great Wall and an area with much to find/explore.
If you start your journey at the HRC, walk south and take the first road left, you will find after 200metres some BBS at the right side and an expensive looking Top Sunshine Club on the left (have English,. But not sure they cater the real thing for laowei). Going further you come to the actual crossing to Maizidian Jie, you can turn left, where there are a few legitimate (as far as I can tell) MPs, a famous dumpling restaurant and if you take the second street right in a residential area two small BBS, further on you can turn left to Durtie Nellies and Regency or right to the Solana Mall.
If you continue the original street and not turn left you have the famous Maizidian Massage Building on your left, with the men Spa and in general legitimate joints, however due to the economic crisis, at least HJ may be on the menue in some places. But be careful, nearby they busted recently some poor Japanese guys who enjoyed more than a massage. First street on the left another legitimate Paradise massage and two bathhouses, of which one is reported as a bad place. Continue the road another two Spas on the left.
Sorry I cannot sample here, just look and get some insider info but this is too close to the fire to get caught in any of these places. Hope it helps anyway, further research welcomed. Some more info can be obtained via PM. Almost all places here offer outcall and as usual if you click with a girl you may get all you want but it usually requires some investment (they are now charging 200 RMB per hour oil massage on outcall!).
FA
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One Eyed Man
07-09-09, 07:26
Also, a lot of the Mongolians are going home to yak and yurte in Juli - supposedly the only time it's warm in UB.One of the girls told me that--I believe July 11--is some kind of Mongolian holiday, where they go home and ride horses, practice archery, etc. I asked her if there was any kind of Mongolian party/meeting place in Beijing, and she didn't know of any.
Update on a good Beijing Sauna near International Exhibition Center (SAN YUAN QIAO area) that I reported on before. It's somewhere between RMB650 and 1000 for FS depending on whether you choose regular rooms (3rd floor) or VIP rooms (1st floor). I believe you need a VIP card to go to VIP rooms. The VIP rooms are quite deluxe--like superior hotel room. The regular rooms are like a standard hotel room. In standard rooms they have straight sex for RMB600, FS + special services (body licking, breast massage, etc) for 800. They also have regular massage/HJ options too for RMB300/400. The VIP room service is actually the same, just a nicer room. Overall, the sauna is quite upscale and girls are nice (7-9) and quite well trained in pleasing patrons. Not the service quality you find in Shanghai, but pretty good. Last time I was there, a month ago, they sent in 3 girls at a time and you could choose. WARNING: They tend to push you hard to buy a VIP card (RMB2, 000, 3, 000, 5, 000 etc). With each you get extra credit--RMB3700, for instance, with the RMB3, 000 card. It's a good option if you like the place and plan to return on a regular basis. They DO take INTERNATIONAL credit cards.
SAUNA ADDRESS: Liu Fang bei li 12 hao. From Kempinski Hotel/Luftansa Center get on 3rd ring road going North. Get off at the International Exhibition Center exit (about 10 minutes from Kempinski) and go LEFT under the 3rd ring road overpass; after a few hundred yards on RIGHT (just past Carrefour) there is the Radisson Hotel; after passing the hotel, take a LEFT at the first major traffic light. (You'll pass a McDonald's on the LEFT after 100 yds or so.) continue to next traffic light at the next intersection and the SAUNA is on the RIGHT side at the intersection corner (before light).
Hey guys,
Could you recommend a good hj/bj place near Shuang Jing? South of Guomao area.
Too paranoid to let a girl into the room (bad experiences), want to find a place I can visit and then just leave.
Much appreciated,
LSEJust a bit South of there, next to the Jinsong stop on Line 10, if you come out of the station from the SW exit, then walk up on to the pedestrian bridge, you can see a street running East and along it I've seen a few places that look like hj/bj places.
I was in HouHai this night. I was approached by a mamasan, asking me if we (I was with one friend) wanted sex with cute girls in our hotel for 600RMB + taxi. I said "tai gui le" (too expensive) and said that for 500 + taxi could be ok for me. She agreed so called some girls to let us choose them. We rejected 4, then we choosed two cute girls.
They did not provide neither BJ nor CBJ (they asked for money). DATY was ok. Had sex in all position I wanted. 60 minutes is the service time.
mamasan name: Jia Jia
tel: 134-36686288
She told me she has a lot of girls working for her (more than 20).
About BBS: there are three (already reported) BBS near the Den (just turn the corner and you'll be invited to enter for "massage"). Also there is an other one (don't know if was already spotted), walking from the Den south direction, from Gong Ren Ti Yu chang Bei Lu, walk on the right side of gong ren ti yu chang dong lu, cross the gong ren ti yu chang Nan lu, and you'll see it on the right, I think 50m after the crosslight. You can't miss it, however I didn't try it, so don't know how is the service.
Ricky
There I was at the Chaoyang Hilton, eating a club sandwich (on brown) and watching HBO. "Sod this, Jizzy, " I says. "Let’s have some fun."
I had the phone number for "Mary" that a fellow punter had kindly posted not a few days before. I sent an SMS, and, sure enough, Mary pinged me right back saying a girl was en route. RMB500 for massage and shag. "Ah, Jizzy, yer a naughty man, " thought I. I shinnied out of my kit, into the shower for a spritz and by the agreed to time I smelled of soap and was ready for love. After 45 minutes, I no longer smelled of soap and the flag was down to half mast. I was about to wank and call it a night when my phone rang. "A girl wearing white is in the lobby, " said Mary. That got the flag back up the pole and I pulled on my trousers and buttoned my flies as I stumbled to the lift.
There were two ladies in white lurking in the lobby. One was a stunner. Cute face and perky tits. The other looked like a lorry load of ugly. Skin pitted like an asteroid and a belly hanging over her miniskirt. Good Lord, have mercy upon poor Jizzy. But Jizz hasn’t been to see the vicar in some time and Ugly in White waddled over. She wheezed her cigarette breath in my ear with a hoarse, "fuckie, suckie, masagee? "
"No, thanks" says I, indignantly. "But I’ll take a shag with your friend over there! " Perky in White also turned out to be a working lady (note to self, don’t bring respectable people to the Hilton. It’s infested by *****s! ) We exchanged pleasantries and headed for my room. We were about to enter the lift when my phone rang. "Girl in white is waiting outside your room now, " said Mary. My word, how many of them can there be? I dumped Perky in White with a smile and a zaijian and scooted back upstairs to find Yan at my door.
She was resplendent, wearing a sexy pair of gold heels, tight jeans wrapped around a long pair of legs, a fabulously flat tummy, a white tube top where two magnificent little titties were ensconced, hip length black hair and black, thick-rimmed glasses. She was close to two meters tall, maybe 50kg, 20 years old and not a bit of fat on her bones. "Jizzy, old man, you’ve done something right, " I purred as I slid an arm around her waist and gave a bit of the old "ni hao ma? "
Into the room, off with the gear. She had matching red lingerie, which was a nice change from the usual beige Chairman Mao Specials. A few giggles, some ass-grab and we were down to business. As I banged away between her long, long legs, her perfect breasts jiggling about in rhythm with my thrusting lance, my mind wandered. If only I had my camera. I could click a few snaps of this minx for the lads on ISG. Alas no camera. I have no record of some fine shagging on the bed, on the floor, on the chair, on the desk and standing up.
She was so tall I had a hard time keeping her feet off the floor while I held her upright. Once she realized that resting her weight on old John Thomas felt bloody good, we were like two well-oiled tango dancers sliding our way through the night. I could almost hear the polite applause of the crowd admiring our form.
Afterwards, we exchanged phone numbers. She made for a far superior evening than a club sandwich and a bad movie.
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Hi,
This sounds great! Does anybody have an idea where to meet such girl for action without spending hundred of RMB for hotel because I can't bring them home to my appartment. Any idea around LIDO area? Had the same show-stopper problem when meeting some cuties in the PIG.
The gals there are very young and nice. The first time, Linda sent me a very cute gal. She told me she's the student of Beijing Language College. After taking bath together, she started to give me massage. She's a friendly gal liking smile very much. I enjoyed it. A bit inexperience, but I like her sexual moans, very real. I was fired up and fucked her harder and harder. She was crazy, kissing me and embracing me closely until the game was over. Finally, she gave me a little time massage with a warm talk. I felt relax and very well. After that, called Linda another several times, the gals sent were all very good. Linda's number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] and wish you good luck.
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I visited Sky Pavillion bar Xiu(秀) of Park Hyatt on July 11th with 2 friends.
The environment and music was great.
The DJ and Bartenders are former staffs of Maggies.
I want to say thanks to Zhuren for his fruitful quote.
P.S.
It is hard to find our northern princesses there, but I gues they will like there.
I heard that on the openining day(about one month ago?), they invited a lot.
Bad Boy Billy
07-13-09, 04:06
Billy and Njtraveller will be in Beijing Fri 17th to Tue 21st.
Any of you guys around and available?
Zhuren - we might do The Den for dinner again like last time?
Maybe a duck restaurant with a team of Mongol w.h.o.r.e.s in tow?
Zhuren - we might do The Den for dinner again like last time?
Fine by me
Been there last night, both local and Northern talent.
I visited Sky Pavillion bar Xiu(秀) of Park Hyatt on July 11th with 2 friends.
The environment and music was great.
The DJ and Bartenders are former staffs of Maggies.
I want to say thanks to Zhuren for his fruitful quote.
P.S.
It is hard to find our northern princesses there, but I gues they will like there.
I heard that on the openining day(about one month ago?), they invited a lot.
Da Dicknotist
07-13-09, 10:23
Zeta had the Playboy party last Saturday, a bit disappointing in that while it was advertised as a lingerie affair no girls actually showed up in lingerie. Absolute sausage festival. It's a place I'd go after Sanlitun or Gongti and to have a nice chat with one of the ladies I've picked up, but I'm not sure about how good of a place it is to pick up chicks.
Stopped by Chocolate for a while but with a bunch of friends so could not partake. While I was coming back down from a phone call was behind a stunning blonde with a dragon tattoo on her upper back. As we were going down the escalator a Chinese man was coming up, gestured to the girl that he wanted to talk to her, and she faithfully rode straight back up. Didn't see her again for the rest of the night, but other than her the only real lookers were the dancers who I presume are not on the menu. Shame.
Xiu has got an amazing atmosphere and is somewhere I would frequent often, although the view is not as breathtaking as I had read on the reviews. Surely no WGs there, right?
Member #3421
07-13-09, 12:39
Billy and Njtraveller will be in Beijing Fri 17th to Tue 21st.
Any of you guys around and available?
Zhuren - we might do The Den for dinner again like last time?
Maybe a duck restaurant with a team of Mongol w.h.o.r.e.s in tow?
Ah Beijing: hazy, hot, and humid. I wish I could shake free earlier, but duty calls. The ladies will have to wait for the weekend.
Nj
Beijing Fox
07-18-09, 18:40
Is this site being blocked now?
Loveasiangirls
07-18-09, 19:37
Is this site being blocked now?
I guess just dead because too hot there. I escaped Beijing for the cool Canadian weather but can't wait to go back "home" now. Getting laid is so complicated here.
I was in Beijing recently at the Four Points Sheraton in Haidian district.
Totally newbie, I wanted to discover sauna. I found WooVictor great post on Jinsha Spa and definitely want to try it.
I grab a cab and went to the Peony. Next to the hotel, I found a foot massage all in Chinese and thought it was it but it wasn’t as classy as WooVictor described.
After some search I arrived in front of that huge building, the Jinsha Spa. Hostesses welcomed me but unfortunately none can speak English. I don’t speak Chinese at all. So it was hard to ask for the Royal Life Maintenance. I left the building.
I finally went to try the hotel (Four Points Sheraton) massage, wishing that there was some happy ending or FS provided there. Well it was very good massage but totally legit.
Fortunately, I spoke (English) with some hotel staff and they told me to request the red massage in room after 8 PM.
So I went back to my room, waiting impatiently for 8 PM and call for the hotel in room massage, specifically asking for red massage. 5 minutes later a girl wearing an orange suit came to my room. As recommended by senior member of this forum I settle a price and she started to take her clothes off.
She had a great body and boobs but her attitude was not very good.
She stays for about 30 to 45 minutes and I did not really enjoy it.
Looks: 7
Attitude 4
Performance: CBJ, FS.
That was my first experience! I will get back to Beijing end of July and will try to improve my technique. Any tips welcomed!
TenthFloor
07-19-09, 15:08
The other night I picked her up after work and we went to Qianhai for dinner and had a walk afterwards. We didn't have sex with each other for a few days and got pretty horny after a while. There was this plan to f..k somewhere in a park already in our minds for some time and we tried to get into Beihai Gongyuan, but they were about to close. A good option is always (..PM me..) park, but don't expect it to be deserted. In the car she was already removing her bra and I started to play with her nipples. As soon as we dived into the darkness I removed her panties and put it into my pocket. Now she was totally naked under her dress. We walked around stopping here and there for kissing and fondling and nipple sucking. After a while I sit down on a bench, took out my dick, she on top of me and we started the deed. When we got home , we did it again. But when she went to the bathroom she found some hint that another woman stayed with me. No idea what it was, as I thought I was very careful. Anyhow in the morning she told me she will never see me again.
Skytrade88
07-19-09, 15:31
I would like to thank the first person to post about Lily and her website www.piaoliangbaobei.com. Cn
I continue to use her service. But always struggle to communicate as they only speak minimal english. So a lot of Yes, No. And some basic Chinese.
Anyways, to my surprise, she has now got someone who can speak english (there is a number to call for english "communication") and explain a lot more, and I am able to tell them what I prefer.
I usually prefer tall slim girls, and more of the model type with long legs. Like the ones in Passions or similar.
So they sent me a girl (univ student) who was gorgeous, tall (about 170cm) slim and long legs. Different from the usual I get from Lily. Who are usually pretty but shorter. Service was the usual very good and gf type experience. However, it was a bit more than the usual Lily price. But I am glad I can explain the type I want and ask questions now. In english. Hehe
The numbers are
13552885100 (Chinese Language)
15201603323 (English Language)
Bad Boy Billy
07-20-09, 08:01
I would like to thank the first person to post about Lily and her website www.piaoliangbaobei.com. Cn
I continue to use her service. But always struggle to communicate as they only speak minimal english. So a lot of Yes, No. And some basic Chinese.
Anyways, to my surprise, she has now got someone who can speak english (there is a number to call for english "communication") and explain a lot more, and I am able to tell them what I prefer.
I usually prefer tall slim girls, and more of the model type with long legs. Like the ones in Passions or similar.
So they sent me a girl (univ student) who was gorgeous, tall (about 170cm) slim and long legs. Different from the usual I get from Lily. Who are usually pretty but shorter. Service was the usual very good and gf type experience. However, it was a bit more than the usual Lily price. But I am glad I can explain the type I want and ask questions now. In english. Hehe
The numbers are
13552885100 (Chinese Language)
15201603323 (English Language)
Certainly sounds like PROMOTION by Lily or one of Lily's associates.
How about posting the price you paid?
Called Jia Jia again 2 times. First time she redirected me to an other provider (male voice) I think, who called me few minutes after my communication with her. Same price, but he could speak better english. Unfortunately it was late (midnight) and the girls did not have any document, so the reception did not let them come upstairs. I paid the taxi and said I would have called again the next evening.
Tried several times the next day the number of the male, but the phone was turned off. So I tried Jia Jia number, but her voice was strange, I had to call several times to understand what she was saying and in the end she did not sent to me any girl. IMHO from her voice and her way of talking she was drugged (with something like heroin), very bad, because when I talked to her in hou hai she seemed a nice person.
So I'd say that you can try her, but she's not reliable.
I called lisa after the last communication with Jia Jia and had a good experience.
This evening a local will bring me to some place in Haidian, hope to find a new place...
Ricky
Johnny Rockets
07-20-09, 15:48
Certainly sounds like PROMOTION by Lily or one of Lily's associates.
How about posting the price you paid?I have bad experience from Lily when I called her a few weeks ago. She dispatched a fat girl to my room. I have to call Lily to cancel the deal. Don't think it is as good as claimed by Skytrade.
Bad Boy Billy
07-21-09, 07:15
Just in case some of you guys had not heard there is a serious impending crackdown on the horizon in BJ.
August 1 to end of Nov will see serious shit going down - the dogs are barking already - the girls are well aware.
Please do everybody a favour and just DO NOT post info on the boards in this period - the last thing we want is more girls being rounded up.
Regulars should contact each other by PM or cell phone - DO NOT give the powers that be any ammo at all.
if you do not already have a list of numbers in your phone - then good luck.
Billy,
I appears that there are similar types of things going on all over these days.
I know that down south, we are seeing a few of similar things to the Olympics last year. Looks like a "dry summer". Glad I made a few friends on my last trip up north. I won't soon forget those couple of days.....yummy
FernandoAlonso
07-21-09, 15:46
Just in case some of you guys had not heard there is a serious impending crackdown on the horizon in BJ.
August 1 to end of Nov will see serious shit going down - the dogs are barking already - the girls are well aware.
Please do everybody a favour and just DO NOT post info on the boards in this period - the last thing we want is more girls being rounded up.
Regulars should contact each other by PM or cell phone - DO NOT give the powers that be any ammo at all.
if you do not already have a list of numbers in your phone - then good luck.Another confirmation, was today with one of my regulars working at a MP, all door locks were removed and she was terrified to do our normal routine, they have been all seriously warned by the owner about LE visits!
How about a summer holiday in Thailand or Phils.
Take care friends, play safe
Fa
JoeBanker00
07-22-09, 04:24
Yes. People should be careful out there.
A couple big KTVs here in Beijing got shut down (and a few in Shanghai I hear). Some of these places are being "investigated" on a regular basis. One of my mamasans tells me the officers go through the rooms and just arrest anyone they don't like. Fewer girls working. Afraid to get caught. Some of the saunas have stopped offering "extra services" as well.
Just in case some of you guys had not heard there is a serious impending crackdown on the horizon in BJ.
August 1 to end of Nov will see serious shit going down. The dogs are barking already. The girls are well aware.
Please do everybody a favour and just DO NOT post info on the boards in this period. The last thing we want is more girls being rounded up.
Regulars should contact each other by PM or cell phone. DO NOT give the powers that be any ammo at all.
If you do not already have a list of numbers in your phone. Then good luck.
I heard today that starting August 1st girls will not be allowed to enter Maggie's. Seems we are going back to the pre-olympic level of crack down. Hope everyone has a long list of phone numbers!
Good luck out there!
Sammy
Bad Boy Billy
07-23-09, 05:28
I heard today that starting August 1st girls will not be allowed to enter Maggie's. 100% confirmation Sammy.
ALL girls entering Maggies in last week or so have been advised.
Skytrade88
07-23-09, 08:56
Certainly sounds like PROMOTION by Lily or one of Lily's associates.
How about posting the price you paid?Well, I paid 800 rmb for 2 hours for that girl because she is taller and looked better. But could also be because I had asked for someone who was not Lily's usual girls.
And if you think I am Lily, that is fine too. I doubt Lily can get on and POST, as I definitely could not do it in China. I could barely find a proxy just to access this website.
Member #3421
07-23-09, 10:40
I don't have anything new to report, and the sad future that seemingly awaits us seems far more important. If I hear anything new I will pass it on.
Confirmation: Chocolate doesn't start until late. Maggies was sparse. Hollywood is still a pit, but fastinating IMHO.
NJT
Is Maggies going to be a gay bar if all girls will be refused entrance? ;-)
I was in Maggies late June and it was thriving then. Went home with Ono, another good looking and very GFE Mongolian. Paid 1000 RMB long time when I took her out around midnight. She told me she never bothered to go to Maggies before Friday, so did all of her business on Friday and Saturday.
By the way, I stayed in the new Hilton Wangfujing and can vouch for the girl friendly nature of the place. In fact, the walk from door to elevators is very short and while it crosses the line of sight of the reception desk, it is far enough from it to allow discretion.
I also took a regular massage in the hotel. One of the best Spa experiences I ever had. Mind you, no happy endings though.
Bad Boy Billy
07-23-09, 22:42
Is Maggies going to be a gay bar if all girls will be refused entrance? ;-)No my friend - the deal is that if girls arrive at the door WITH guys - they will be allowed entry - if they arrive at the door ON THEIR OWN - that is singularly, 2 together, 3 together but NO GUYS - entry will be refused.
Sad as it may be - and at the risk of being a doomsdayer - IMHO Maggies days are well and truly over.
MAYBE it will change later in the year - but it will need to - last week or 2 it has been devoid of quality and quantity.
Bad Boy Billy
07-24-09, 00:33
Even when the powers that be force 'slim pickings' upon us - some of us can still enjoy ourselves.
I just received an email from my mate Njtraveller. NJ has not been in Beijing for 2 years - he and I had a ball together on his only previous visit.
We met up again last weekend and I supplied him with a list of numbers to try to get him through the upcoming 'dry'spell.
NJ - I just had to post this email you sent me - it is a classic:
Walked into Hollywood, got beer, sat on back couch, dialed Wiki, played 2-3 text-message tag until I found her. Met her friend, who is now on my list for another time, and left. Total ellapsed time, 10 minutes. Cab by Chocolate back to China World.
She's definitely a Russian w.h.o.r.e. Perfect body, decent English (I said hello for you), all business in bed. "Why you not cum already?" I don't hear that much, I have to admit. Cab back to Hollywood, went to Chocolate, got another number of a Russian. So I'm starting to feel like my rolodex has enough meat to keep me in business should things turn bad.
Maggies would not let me get 2 girls in late last night after Chocolate (one was the girl I met that night with you, and then went to the Den with). They let me bring one in, but not her friend, with apologies.Never a dull moment huh - and BTW - how much did the Russian w.h.o.r.e ask for? What did you settle on?
Beijing Fox
07-24-09, 06:17
Was at Maggie's this Monday.
Even during the 'Glory Days', on Mondays Maggies was never as crowded as Beijing subway in the morning, but last Monday around 1 a.m., I could spot only 4 (four) available girls. A truly sad picture. More sad even was the fact that they were sitting by themselves without any punters. . . Maybe it will turn into a gay bar?
No my friend - the deal is that if girls arrive at the door WITH guys - they will be allowed entry - if they arrive at the door ON THEIR OWN - that is singularly, 2 together, 3 together but NO GUYS - entry will be refused.
Sad as it may be - and at the risk of being a doomsdayer - IMHO Maggies days are well and truly over.
MAYBE it will change later in the year - but it will need to - last week or 2 it has been devoid of quality and quantity.
Bad Boy Billy
07-24-09, 06:52
. . . Maybe it will turn into a gay bar?
With major shareholders Sammy, Zhuren and Intransit being regular attendees............I thought it had already headed down that path.
Member #3421
07-24-09, 16:07
Even when the powers that be force 'slim pickings' upon us - some of us can still enjoy ourselves.
((original post omitted here))
Never a dull moment huh - and BTW - how much did the Russian w.h.o.r.e ask for? What did you settle on?
1000 flat, asked and paid. She was top shelf. Your groundwork, my benefit. I owe you one. Probably more than one.
I sure enjoyed my visit last month. I hope that the "adopt a Northern Sister" program doesn't lose too many adoptees. The ones I spent time with where off the hook. Maybe they will come down south for a visit.....
I was at Vics and Cargo on Friday. I saw a girl alone at Cargo wearing heavy makeup and fake eyelashes. She gave me an extremely welcoming look, so I'm 90% sure she was a WG.
Wanting no part of that, I proceeded to Vics around 1am. I met a very cute girl who was eager to dance close to me. She was young, not dressed particularly revealingly, and not wearing a lot of makeup. Sweet face, smooth skin, and ample bosom. We danced close for maybe 45 minutes, and I was getting very optimistic about chances for a freebie.
We went to the bar for a rest, and she used her cell to write me a message, since it was too loud in there for her delicate little voice: 我陪你一起回家小费1000块. (I'll go home with you for a 1000 RMB tip).
I was caught off guard and somewhat devastated. I really didn't think she was a WG. Perhaps it was wishful thinking. I should have got suspicious when she ordered a non-alcoholic flavored water instead of a cocktail and when she chatted briefly with a somewhat older women. I still think she's prob a part-timer.
It was after 2 by the time she laid her cards on the table, and not at all clear that she would be able to find other options. I offered 400RMB, which she was prepared to accept, but only for ST. If she'd agreed to LT, I prob would have gone for it, but I am trying to save money and wasn't planning to pay for play that night. I reluctantly let her go, apologizing for wasting her time.
Lesson learned: beautiful Chinese WGs are available for good prices at these clubs. I would have gone for it under other circumstances.
SidTheSexist
07-27-09, 11:29
Nice to see all the old hands as well as the latest recruits still going at it!
Will hopefully get some stuff written up soon, although as already mentioned, accessing ISG isn't as straight forward as the old days.
Sid
I found fergie at her website www.beijingmassage3.spaces.live.com
She do Tantric Massage in Beijing,she beautiful both of face and body (and mind, for those that this matters to!) sensual and curvy in the right places, 36C and rounded, sexy bottom. Soft features and cute and alluring smile. . her personality is warm, and comfortable to be around.
Tantric Massage gives power to the body because it understands the natural rhythm that is within every individual. Our inner self and sensuality craves attention. At first we find it difficult to relax and surrender to pleasure, at first we feel that loss of control will render us weak. But a deeper inner strength emerges when we experience honour and respect for our inner self. Massage stokes can be done fast or slow, but in terms of their effect, the slower, the better! The reason for this is that the natural response to touch by the nervous system, is to see if this is a treat. Once you allow time for the nervous system to establish that you are in no harm, and in safe hands, true relaxation can occur.
Bad Boy Billy
07-27-09, 23:34
I had a good time with Maria last night...... RMB 1000, overnight. I enjoyed very much and give her another 200 tips.........Here's Maria's blog............http://blog.sina.com.cn/maria1107
Hmmm - 6 posts before this and all those promoting Lisa's shop.
Now post No 7 promoting a single w.h.o.r.e who has her own web site.
Not really what this site is designed for Peterwong2050 - maybe admin needs to look at this blatant promotion of individual businesses.
Member #3421
07-27-09, 23:38
Hmmm - 6 posts before this and all those promoting Lisa's shop.
Now post No 7 promoting a single w.h.o.r.e who has her own web site.
Not really what this site is designed for Peterwong2050 - maybe admin needs to look at this blatant promotion of individual businesses.
ISG does have a "classified ads" section, after all. And I think I've also seen a few of those photos up on CL.
I realise that this forum is mostly geared towards mongering, and it was a huge help when I went to Moscow and then later Xi'an.
Anyway, was wondering the best places for feebies, if your Chinese is limited to the basics. Which are the best clubs to hit? I loved the nightclub scene in Xi'an and it was relatively easy to pick up freebies, or the semi-WGs (those that ask for a little "gift" the next morning). Basically anywhere Chinese women tend to flock to meet westerners. Also any places to avoid due to hostility from Chinese or other nationalities against you picking up "their" girls? Got a taste of that in Xi'an, and have learned to be a wee bit wary.
I've gotten a pretty good handle on the WG scene here in Beijing from the posts here and the Reports of distinction.
Cheers
Loveasiangirls
07-28-09, 20:17
I realise that this forum is mostly geared towards mongering, and it was a huge help when I went to Moscow and then later Xi'an.
Anyway, was wondering the best places for feebies, if your Chinese is limited to the basics. Which are the best clubs to hit? I loved the nightclub scene in Xi'an and it was relatively easy to pick up freebies, or the semi-WGs (those that ask for a little "gift" the next morning). Basically anywhere Chinese women tend to flock to meet westerners. Also any places to avoid due to hostility from Chinese or other nationalities against you picking up "their" girls? Got a taste of that in Xi'an, and have learned to be a wee bit wary.
I've gotten a pretty good handle on the WG scene here in Beijing from the posts here and the Reports of distinction.
Cheers
The club scene for freebies is not the same in Beijong as in Xi'An due to the large number of expats living there (I think 300,000). If you speak some mandarin then you have a bigger pool to fish from. If not then you have to compete with all the expats. In those venues you are nothing so unique. You are likely to bump into a WG. Then again ,you never know but the odds are not as good.
One Eyed Man
07-29-09, 10:36
Anyway, was wondering the best places for feebies, if your Chinese is limited to the basics.
A classmate told me that tonight is ladies' night at Suzy Wong's.
Guys,
I had a good time with Maria last night. Maria is a very elegant girl with nice face and sexy body. I appreciate her friendly smile and patience. About 30 mins to my hotel after calling, RMB 1000, overnight. I enjoyed very much and give her another 200 tips.
Here's Maria's blog. At her blog you can find more choices because there're some sisters of Maria.
http://blog.sina.com.cn/maria1107Hey guys,
Don't be fooled by Peterwong2050. The phone number in the website belongs to Lisa. I've tried Lisa's gals before. They are old, ugly, and have bad attitude. No wonder she has to call herself Maria to canvass for business here.
Bad Boy Billy
07-29-09, 23:03
A classmate told me that tonight is ladies' night at Suzy Wong's.Do not get too excited about 'Ladies Night' at Suzy Wongs guys.
Billy went there one night and witnessed ALL guys being denied entrance into the main bar area - we were directed upstairs instead.
The main bar area was 'Ladies Only' - did not even get in there to inspect the goods.
It may have changed since then as that was like 18 months ago - but I still think it might be designed simply as a night out for the ladies
Do not get too excited about 'Ladies Night' at Suzy Wongs guys.
Billy went there one night and witnessed ALL guys being denied entrance into the main bar area - we were directed upstairs instead.
The main bar area was 'Ladies Only' - did not even get in there to inspect the goods.
It may have changed since then as that was like 18 months ago - but I still think it might be designed simply as a night out for the ladies
This is still the case, but I think they allow guys to enter the main bar after 11. Might be good for freebie hunting, but not too good for finding working girls. Suzy Wong's is known for hiring 'models' posing as patrons. They will drink with you and give you the impression you have a shot of taking them home, but they will never close the deal. I have also tried to enter in the past with some of our northern sisters, and they were denied entry.
Suzy Wong's is a nice bar, but not for our hobbie (in my opinion).
Sammy
Horneblower
07-30-09, 16:46
I generally agree with Billy and Sammy.
Wednesday night is off limit to guys until 11. Before then free drinks, flowers and male go-go dancers all contribute to lubricating the ladies but most of them leave after 11 but not all. There are a few WGs but not many and some potential freebies. IMHO, going there is an inefficient use of time!
I am in Istanbul and can't wait to get back to paradise in less than two weeks!
This is still the case, but I think they allow guys to enter the main bar after 11. Might be good for freebie hunting, but not too good for finding working girls. Suzy Wong's is known for hiring 'models' posing as patrons. They will drink with you and give you the impression you have a shot of taking them home, but they will never close the deal. I have also tried to enter in the past with some of our northern sisters, and they were denied entry.
Suzy Wong's is a nice bar, but not for our hobbie (in my opinion).
Sammy
the reason guys are not admitted is its a girls night out use to have male strippers dont know about now, mostly older chinese ladies go. Opens to the guys after the fun is over. as a general rule unless u want a regular chinese gf forget suzys other than for a drink.
Just wanted to say thanks for the info. Garnered good info from this site for other excursions across China and will finally be back in BJ. I'm a senior member on the domestic site but first post here. Was in Wuhan 2 yrs ago and was advised to check out the Royal Tang sauna in the newly opened Howard Johnsons. Great time was had, though a couple blocks behind the HJ was a Chinese hotel with sauna, not as elaborate, not much choice of gals but a real bargain. I've seen some discussion of hotel and other saunas here but is the consensus picking up a WG at one of the bars is better in BJ?
Cheers,
Doc
I agree with the previous posts. I went on a wednesday night and waited until 11:00 with 100 other guys and most of the women left. The few that stayed were mobbed but it looked hopeless and I went to Maggies. I have gone to Suzy Wongs about 6 times. Picked up a freebee that stayed with me 3 days once and left frustrated the rest of the time. I agree good place for a drink but not for what I am looking for
Leng Qiu Shui
07-31-09, 16:22
I would like to thank the first person to post about Lily and her website www.piaoliangbaobei.com. Cn
I continue to use her service. But always struggle to communicate as they only speak minimal english. So a lot of Yes, No. And some basic Chinese.
Anyways, to my surprise, she has now got someone who can speak english (there is a number to call for english "communication") and explain a lot more, and I am able to tell them what I prefer.
I usually prefer tall slim girls, and more of the model type with long legs. Like the ones in Passions or similar.
So they sent me a girl (univ student) who was gorgeous, tall (about 170cm) slim and long legs. Different from the usual I get from Lily. Who are usually pretty but shorter. Service was the usual very good and gf type experience. However, it was a bit more than the usual Lily price. But I am glad I can explain the type I want and ask questions now. In english. Hehe
The numbers are
13552885100 (Chinese Language)
15201603323 (English Language)Thank you Skytrade88 for Lily's contact, I am now in Beijing for a short biz trip and had the chance to link up with a very pretty girl tonight send by Lily in less than 30 mins. Her name is Tan Yao, medium build for a Chinese, sexy body and a ball of fire in the sack. It was her eyes that caught my attention when I open my hotel door. Will be seeing her again tomorrow.
Member #3421
08-01-09, 03:39
Thank you Skytrade88 for Lily's contact, I am now in Beijing for a short biz trip and had the chance to link up with a very pretty girl tonight send by Lily in less than 30 mins. Her name is Tan Yao, medium build for a Chinese, sexy body and a ball of fire in the sack. It was her eyes that caught my attention when I open my hotel door. Will be seeing her again tomorrow.
Barf. Maybe someone could translate that.
Any oldtimers or regulars going out tonight? PM me. It will be interesting to see if the scene is changing now.
Donutimprint
08-01-09, 06:24
Coming in from NYC in 1 week. Have sampled everything that North America has to offer for beautiful Asian girls, I am now going to the source!
I am clueless though and know I will be struggling with the language, hoping to not have to struggle to find a hot girl that will be lots of fun.
Any suggestions would be great and I will gladly trade any N. America advise anyone would ever want.
Thanks Beijing dudes
Member #3421
08-01-09, 10:23
A reliable source just left my room with a smile on her face and her pockets full, informing me that things were busy at the favorite watering hole of the northern sisters last night and that she had no trouble getting in unescorted. Let's hope nothing changes.
Member #3421
08-02-09, 03:50
9:30 PM. Hollywood. A nice bunch congregating around the tables, including two I had met before. Got my beer, prepared to make my approach, and they all got up and headed straight out the door. They must have seen me, and had heard tales of the ugly "lowei" with the huge cock and abilities of the energizer bunny. Not. Those remaining... well, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I'm sure Zhuren will chime in with, "I told you so." Of course, he did. I didn't linger.
9:45 PM. Chocolate: empty. No surprise, too early.
9:55 PM. Maggie's: Mongolians: 0. Sausage: ~8. Western women: 3, interesting! Normal couple looking a bit lost: 1.
10:30 PM. Maggie's: Mongolians: 1. Sausage: ~15. Western women: 3. I made an approach for fun and was soundly rebuffed. Retreated. Clearly they were lesians.
10:45 PM. Maggie's: Mongolians: 2. Sausage: ~20. Western women: 3, starting to feel out of place, stealing glances at me curiously. Sorry ladies, you had your chance.
Midnight. Maggie's: Mongolians: ~6. Sausage: many kilograms, many looking confused, many chatting up the Chinese girls with hopeful gleams in their eyes. Good luck, fellows!
12:30 AM. Chocolate: the place to be. Rocking. Bar areas packed, some Russian WGs clearly working, many Mongolians, even more clearly working. Same group of Russians from Hollywood showed up, acting like they were out enjoying Saturday night on their own, maybe not working. A few Russian stunners, some sitting alone, hard to say. Maybe kept girls at best, with occasional visits by one or two tough-looking Russian guys and the manager. Making an approach might have been a good way to get into trouble. Plenty of other opportunities, though, and this seems to be the place to be late at night right now. It sure wasn't Maggie's, but I wanted to be sure before reporting. So...
1:30 AM. Maggies: Mongolians: ~8. Sausage: even busier it seemed, with the Chinese girls getting lots of attention. The one stunning Mongolian in the place walks up to me and gives me the cheek kissy-kissy thing, thanking me for the afternoon. I left her to her guy and headed home. I may call her again, but I don't want BF status.
Conclusion: times-they-are-a-changing it would seem.
Member #3421
08-02-09, 03:56
Coming in from NYC in 1 week. Have sampled everything that North America has to offer for beautiful Asian girls, I am now going to the source!
I am clueless though and know I will be struggling with the language, hoping to not have to struggle to find a hot girl that will be lots of fun.
Any suggestions would be great and I will gladly trade any N. America advise anyone would ever want.
Thanks Beijing dudes
Welcome, neighbor. I live at exit... {insider's joke about New Jersey}. Read the forum, be safe.
Donutimprint
08-02-09, 04:36
Scouring away on here. Seems to be all aggregated in one place rather than separate threads so the going is slow.
Staying near Ritan park it seems should I bother or pick a number?
I will holler at your homeland as I take off in Newark.
Hello all,
First of all some props out to the regular contributors. I've been reading quite extensively during the last two months and have been a paying member since April. Sammy T deserving special credit for his report on available activities.
Very helpful.
I live in Beijing since November '08 and have been taking my time before I decided to get to know the working girls scene a bit better.
When I got here I started going out with fellow colleagues and friends. All of us on the lookout for freebies. Expats and Chinese. I recall my first encounter with a hot Mongolian WG at China Doll before it shut down in December 08. Her asking price was 1000 Kwai for LT. And as I know now it would have definitely been worth the price, but as I said it was way before I even considered doing anything in that area. Actually I haven't done anything of that kind in my 35 years of existence until very recently when some mates and I went to Vietnam and enjoyed some very good and some very bad happy endings. Of course always paying more than whatever was suggested as a proper fee on this board. But I am fine with that. German (wo shi deguoren) saying goes: 'Even dwarfs started small'.
So despite the amazingly extensive knowledge base that newbies like me get to read on here I guess what counts most is the time and the effort you are willing to invest to make your own experiences. I consider myself still at the very beginning and I hope I can share my constant improvements with you guys on here.
So far I had some encounters with Chinese late 20s to early thirties. Desperate housewife types. All freebies and very enjoyable. There has been extensive writing about the emotional aspect of these encounters so I would spare you that. Just so much about what my approach was. When things were heading towards intimacy, I always clarified my position up front. Which is that I am a guy to have fun with, but also a guy that considers himself free to do whatever he wants. This strategy worked for me and I never got into a situation where I had to discuss emotional issues with the ladies. Some of these girls I still meet on a frequent basis and always make sure to be the perfect gentleman. 'Freebie' in that sense is a misleading term, because dinner and drinks is always on me, as I as well as them consider that part of the deal.
So after I took my time thinking about how to best approach my first step into the professional scene I opted against the call out method as some of the recommenders for certain phone numbers read quite self promotional to me. As convenient it sounded at first I also prefer to pick the girl, than end up with someone I don't really like.
So on Saturday I went for Romantic Rabbit Retreat which is close to where I live and the report by 'Worm' sounded promising. If you Google the name and add Beijing you will find the address and a phone number. They are located at Jiangwai Soho and Van Palace (where I went).
Called them up to make an appointment at 7pm. Upon arrival a hottie let me in and guided me to a large bedroom with an attached bathroom. I had gone there before to get a business card and check the menu but when I got there for the real thing she didn't even ask me for the type of massage I wanted. Took a shower and when done was asked to lay myself on the king-size bed. Massage itself was ok but definitely not professional. Lots of oil though and lots of teasing. At some point she removed my towel leaving me completely naked and continued with her procedure. We started talking in English and I was using some of my rudimentary Putonghua. Her name was 'Summer' and she said she was from Hubei Province. After a while she asked me if I was interested in 'special service'. I wanted to know what that meant, and she said breast massage (boob job) and hand job. I asked her if she had more to offer but she basically pretended to not know what I was talking about. Her asking price was 1000 and knowing that this was way out of line I started negotiating. In the end we settled for 800. Hand and boob job her undressing and allowing me to touch her. I knew that I was overpaying but I was also horny as hell and wanted to get things going. Her performance was very professional and very pleasing. I touched her everywhere she gave some fake moans and kept eye contact the entire time which I like. Tried to kiss her but only came close. The boob job was the best one I ever had even though I would suspect her tits were fake. Came in no time but not because she rushed but because I had built up quite some pressure in recent days. She cleaned me up and we had a shower afterwards and talked the remaining 15 minutes (total was 60). She also said to do home service. I'm considering going back with friends maybe try another girl to get some FS. But I'm not paying another 800 without BJ and further action.
All in all found the location to be very clean and pleasing.
Funny epilogue: Walking home I saw my first BBS ever since I live in Beijing. On a street I pass by every single day on my way to work. It was as if my first step into a new hobby suddenly opened my eyes. Girls were waving me in. Something that never happened to me before. You find the BBS if you walk from the old Hatsune towards CCTV on the right hand side. If you know the place you can let me know if it's worth it. But I will definitely find out myself and share my experience.
Already looking forward to the 'northern sisters' and KTV action. But all in due time as I feel no rush.
I sincerely hope I stayed within protocol with this report.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Member #3421
08-02-09, 19:06
Scouring away on here. Seems to be all aggregated in one place rather than separate threads so the going is slow.
Staying near Ritan park it seems should I bother or pick a number?
I will holler at your homeland as I take off in Newark.
If you join ISG you can PM me (and others). Good way to exchange tips. Ritan park is the right location, fair chance we'd even be in the same hotel.
Bad Boy Billy
08-03-09, 01:31
9:30 PM. Hollywood.......I'm sure Zhuren will chime in with, "I told you so." Of course, he did.Of course Zhuren would say that - he is very worried about his financial stake in Maggies slipping in value.
9:55 PM. Maggie's:.........10:30 PM. Maggie's:..........10:45 PM. Maggie's:..........Midnight. Maggie's:..........1:30 AM. Maggies:..........Conclusion: times-they-are-a-changing it would seem.After all the training and advice I give - you still waste your time going to Maggies before midnight.
I thought I had trained you better - so what about Lido? When I was last there you saw 1 good type in Lido did you not?
What about The Den - did you prowl The Den between 9 and 12 as I instructed you to?
God I leave you alone for 5 minutes and you go all ga-ga on me.
Bad Boy Billy
08-03-09, 01:59
Massage itself was ok but definitely not professional..........In the end we settled for 800. Hand and boob job her undressing and allowing me to touch her..........I knew that I was overpaying]Yes you certainly did - you can get a Mongolian all night for1,000. You can get many many Chinese girls all night for 800 - but to each his own.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Dear Editor - you would have to be joking? Clearly this note is self generated whenever a post exceeds 200 / 500 words or some other random criteria. IMHO there is absolutely nothing in this report that warrants inclusion in the 'Reports of Distinction' section. But as I said - that is my opinion - others may well view it differently.
Bad Boy Billy
08-03-09, 02:05
Massage itself was ok but definitely not professional..........In the end we settled for 800. Hand and boob job her undressing and allowing me to touch her..........I knew that I was overpaying]Yes you certainly did - you can get a Mongolian all night for1,000. You can get many many Chinese girls all night for 800 - but to each his own.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Dear Editor - you would have to be joking? Clearly this note is self generated whenever a post exceeds 200 / 500 words or some other random criteria. IMHO there is absolutely nothing in this report that warrants inclusion in the 'Reports of Distinction' section. But as I said - that is my opinion - others may well view it differently.
Now Steeevyo - please do not view this post as a SERIOUS FLAME - I have not indended it to be so.
Let me compliment you on the fact that you did actually go out and seek out some pussy - I admire you for that.
But trust me - lots better ways to do that than what you did - once again IMHO.
There are a number of regular contributors who live in BJ as you are aware - drop them a pm and hook up with them for a couple of nights - you will soon catch on and will certainly get a far superior experience I am sure.
Member #3421
08-03-09, 03:43
Of course Zhuren would say that - he is very worried about his financial stake in Maggies slipping in value.
After all the training and advice I give - you still waste your time going to Maggies before midnight.
I thought I had trained you better - so what about Lido? When I was last there you saw 1 good type in Lido did you not?
What about The Den - did you prowl The Den between 9 and 12 as I instructed you to?
God I leave you alone for 5 minutes and you go all ga-ga on me.
Left my Lido card at home and didn't want to spend the whole night in the taxi, anyway. I'm a big fan of the Den's pizza, but haven't tried "shopping" there. For you, Billy, I'll have a go next weekend. But only for you.
You know I have a soft spot for Russian. I was worried the quality might vanish early on Sunday evenings, so I hit Hollywood early to bust my first nut of the night. I may have set another record, in the door, bottle of water (1 minute because they are so damn slow returning the change), eyes adjust to light (45 seconds), make the approach: "hello, remember me? I went with your friend two weeks ago and I came back just for you. You go with me?" Out the door, total elapsed time about 6 minutes. If the taxi driver hadn't taken a wrong turn, I would have had her in my room 10 minutes later.
Maggie's was quieter later Sunday night, mostly small groups of friends, one expat birthday party, and no obvious mongers present. Low counts of northern sisters, but with a few real solid lookers. Chinese girls hovering nervously because of lack of traffic. Please, girls, don't tell me how to handle my stick at the billiards table.
An acquaintance referred me to consider staying at some new luxury apartments: World City, Dongdaqiao lu, Guomao (trade center), Chang'anjie East, Chaoyang district. Indicated they are 480 RMB per night and behind the China World Hotel. Anyone know of these? Any thoughts?
Doc
Ok being in Beijing without a long list of phone #s (or any phone #s actually) isn't very conductive to mongering.
Friday night: went to Park Hyatt around 11pm to check out the new club Xiu. The atmosphere was hopping, yet no WG in sight in this overwhelmingly civilian venue. Around midnight a very beautiful Chinese hottie came alone... wearing expensive jewelry, carrying a high-end LV bag, chatting up the laowais... but obviously looking for a rich foreign husband rather than a profitable evening.
With no WG prospect, at the end I decided to stay anyway; enjoyed the scene and partied with a group of young Chinese execs, figured maybe I'd get some phone #s for the future. Xiu verdict: stylish yet sterile, very friendly crowd, poor venue for mongering.
Saturday night: being a sucker for hot-model-types, I went to Passion (Great Wall Sheraton) around 11pm and hung out at the disco. An extremely sexy young thing -- straight from a Japanese AV wet dream -- stepped out from the "back room". I'd easily rate her 10/10 in looks, but before I could blink an eye, a Japanese-looking businessman was all over her and quickly sealed the deal (for an astronomical price, I'm sure.)
Scanning the room there was only one other girl I was interested in... tall sultry very beautiful Chinese model (I'd rate 9/10) who unfortunately didn't speak any English. Tried to enter negotiations through the bartender (big mistake)... wanted 5000 RMB for LT. I offered 2000 LT but obviously the gap was too large. She's really was beautiful but I wasn't in the mood to pay 5k and the night was still young.
Then to my dismay, another WG aggressively tried to sit down with me even when I said no. She tried to trick me into agreeing, saying "just sit down, ok?" while another bartender was already bringing out some snacks. When I asked how much, she said $100 US is her sit down fee. I wasn't interested in her at all but she wouldn't budge. At this point, disgusted, I just left.
Passion verdict: disappointing overall, not coming back unless I can charge someone else's expense account for the experience. I can be very generous but 5k LT is not in the budget.
Next stop, Maggies: Got there around midnight, as Njtraveller pointed out the sausage to gem ratio wasn't looking good. So I just sat at the bar for awhile, slowly nursing a Qingdao pijiu. A good looking Mongolian came in but she seemed more interested in chatting with her girlfriend than winning a customer. She disappeared after a few minutes. Around 1am more and more guys were coming in, yet there was ZERO Mongolian stunners who wasn't already with another customer. Ok decided to bail out.
The Den: well I thought I'd have another beer so stopped by the Den late, maybe around 1:30am. That one Mongolian hottie from Maggies was there, still chatting with her girlfriend, totally oblivious to the punters. Dunno maybe it's that time of the month for her. There were a couple other WGs hanging around but not quite up to quality standards. Finished my Stella and decided to call it a night.
Bottom line: two weekend nights, zero action. Yes my timing was horrible, can't blame anyone else, but I really didn't expect to totally strike out at all these Beijing venues!!
Of course Zhuren would say that - he is very worried about his financial stake in Maggies slipping in value.
WHEREAS:
Bad Boy, I wish you would refrain from claiming that me, or Sammy, or Intransit are Maggie's shareholders. Your Aussie wit may be way over some peoples' heads, and some who don't have the pleasure of knowing you in person may take your kangaroo humor for reality.
NOW THEREFORE:
1.) Neither me nor (as far as I know) Messrs. Sammy and Intransit hold any direct or indirect ownership interest in the aforementioned Maggies, including without limitation stocks, shares, security agreements, chattel mortgages, or real estate mortgage agreements, nor do we hold, or are party to undertakings holding instruments, certificates or other documents at any time evidencing or otherwise relating to, governing or executed in connection with or as securities for a loan, including without limitation notes, bonds, loan agreements, letter of credit applications, lease finacing contracts, banker's acceptances, drafts, interest protection agreements, currency exchange agreements, repurchase agreements, reverse purchase agreements, guarantees, deeds of trust, mortgages, assignments, security agreements, pledges, subordination or priority agreements, lien priority agreements, undertakings, security instruments, certificates, documents, legal opinions, participation agreements and intercreditor agreements with the above captioned Maggie's or any owners, shareholders, partners, joint venturers, family members or any other companies or persons directly or indirectly connected therewith.
2.) Messrs. Sammy, Intransit and Zhuren have at no point in time received any financial interest derived from the business of the above captioned establishment. In the contrary, the aforementioned establishment has, over the years, derived substantial financial gain from the patronage of Messrs. Sammy, Intransit and Zhuren, sometimes without returning good value for monies received.
3.) Any statements contrary to the above are false. Messrs. Sammy, Intransit and Zhuren reserve their rights to vigorously defend their interests against slanderous or libelous allegations, including, but not limited to, subjecting the libelous or slanderous party to unspecified re-education measures.
4.) According to information and belief, even the "owners" of Maggie's do not own, but rent it. It's supposedly owned by the Father of All Nightclubs in Beijing
5.) It is true that from grossly overcharging formerly regular guests such as Sammy and myself, M's may have financed several months of mortgage payments for the renovation. Which was for naught as the establishment was closed on the day of its grand re-opening. To M's credit, the bill padding has stopped. It helps if you avoid the drinking girls.
6.) Intransit doesn't have any money to invest.
7.) Sammy hasn't been seen at M's (or in Beijing) for ages. Before he left, he talked about boycotting M's.
8.) Even if shares in M's would be available, I would short them. The prospects for M's get increasingly thinner as October looms. Look at the reports of the sausage to bun ratio. This is just the beginning.
Having said that, BJ, despite the enticing acronym, will be a bad place for the sport for a long time. Whether you are on the buy side or the sell side, your traffic is better directed elsewhere.
PS: 1:30 is the new 11:15
PPS: The situation is getting so desperate that people now CALL me, claiming that "Jonathan" gave them my number and where's the nookie. It's "Johnson," not "Jonathan." He doesn't have my number. AFAIK, Beijing's best nookie now is in Tokyo or Berlin. Berlin is even getting price competitive with BJ. But if the calls and suggestions of Maggie's ownership continue, I shall hand out a number with an Australian country code and suggest to get pointers for the Philippines
Member #3421
08-03-09, 07:39
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With no WG prospect, at the end I decided to stay anyway; enjoyed the scene and partied with a group of young Chinese execs, figured maybe I'd get some phone #s for the future. Xiu verdict: stylish yet sterile, very friendly crowd, poor venue for mongering.
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Passion verdict: disappointing overall, not coming back unless I can charge someone else's expense account for the experience. I can be very generous but 5k LT is not in the budget.
Next stop, Maggies: Got there around midnight, as Njtraveller pointed out the sausage to gem ratio wasn't looking good. So I just sat at the bar for awhile, slowly nursing a Qingdao pijiu. A good looking Mongolian came in but she seemed more interested in chatting with her girlfriend than winning a customer. She disappeared after a few minutes. Around 1am more and more guys were coming in, yet there was ZERO Mongolian stunners who wasn't already with another customer. Ok decided to bail out.
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Thanks for the report Mike. If you can, PM me and maybe we can connect in the coming weeks. Otherwise, try dropping the phrase, "boy, there sure a lot of girls in here" to lowei in Maggie's. Perhaps one of them will be me.
I completely concur with your assessment of Xiu at Park Hyatt. Based on all reports of Passion, I have never bothered to go. And I think the Den is more fun with friends...
Yes you certainly did - you can get a Mongolian all night for1,000. You can get many many Chinese girls all night for 800 - but to each his own.
Dear Editor - you would have to be joking? Clearly this note is self generated whenever a post exceeds 200 / 500 words or some other random criteria. IMHO there is absolutely nothing in this report that warrants inclusion in the 'Reports of Distinction' section. But as I said - that is my opinion - others may well view it differently.
Now Steeevyo - please do not view this post as a SERIOUS FLAME - I have not indended it to be so.
Let me compliment you on the fact that you did actually go out and seek out some pussy - I admire you for that.
But trust me - lots better ways to do that than what you did - once again IMHO.
There are a number of regular contributors who live in BJ as you are aware - drop them a pm and hook up with them for a couple of nights - you will soon catch on and will certainly get a far superior experience I am sure.Interesting response in all it's facets.
I wrote that i knew i was overpaying (because i RTFF. which i told?).
I even mentioned the LT offer i got by the Mongolian WG before.
Which leads you to the conclusion that you have to tell me what i already know.
About that report of distinction i couldn't care less. I mean why dont you contact the admin directly instead of using my post to rant about something so insignificant?
About that pm thing.
Just to clarify my standpoint: I am here to share information and not to find a social life. I am not hustling for phone numbers, and i am explicitly not interested in any fast track option. It will be a steady and organic learning process. There will be mistakes along the way but they will be limited to financial side of things, as the knowledge base on here gave the proper amount of sensibility to avoid serious trouble.
I'll take the compliment though. No offence taken.
Went to the BBS I mentioned last night on Guanghua Lu west of 3rd Ring.
Beijing Fox mentioned this place early 2008 I guess.
Dirty rathole as expected. 300 Kwai for Breast rub, BBBJ, Boobjob, didn't negotiate.
No way i would have f...ed anyone in there. Girl was a 7. Looked young and was acting very cute all along the way. Cleaned me up properly. Good relief, disgusting atmosphere. Relief trumps atmosphere.
I was in Beijing for a few days. (taking a break from Shanghai).
I have know a nice Thai girl for almost 2 years. And all along, it was just friends. She would meet me for a drink. Sometimes lunch. Help me do some shopping (great negotiation skills).
Last time I was there. As we left the bar, she just kept walking with me back to my hotel room, never saying anything, up to my room. I had a bottle of wine there, so I opened it, as we flipped through the channels.
I put my arm around her to get more comfortable, and when I did, she turned toward me and started kissing me. Good passionate kissing, and started to unbutton my pants. Short story, ended up in the bed. A couple nice rounds. Great BBBJ, nice DATY. And great sex.
Woke up in the morning, as everything was normal. And she left for work. SMS's me later in the day. I was busy that night with business so could not see her.
Exchanged emails, and I came back and called her. She had a bad cold. But wanted to see me. Had dinner and a few drinks, and she walked back to my hotel with me (it was still early). But she really wasn't feeling good. So went home. Oh well, I waited 2 years, hopefully I won't have to wait 1 more years for the next round.
Steevyo
Thanks for the interesting and informative report...i am new to Beijing too and will avoid the pay for play scene here....not because i am morally opposed and aready am a fully paid up monger but purely because the prices here are out of control..Shanghai and Shenzen is a different story of course.
I am interested to know where you found the most success with the freebies....i mean where was it easiest to meet them?
Thanks in advance.
Member #3421
08-05-09, 18:13
All I've gotta say is that you'd better have game and be younger and better looking than I am (easy criteria, believe me). But the opportunity is there for the best of us. Of course, I have more to say. I lied. So shoot me.
La Bamba, near Wadaoku metro stop. Mostly expat students, and some locals who are probably more willing if they aren't attached to a 20-something hot young German or Spaniard. The pizza sucks. But for a change of pace, hey, no complaining. Stayed longer than I should have. Club downstairs with 30 RMB ladies all-you-can-drink and 80 RMB for the rest of us suckers. Past my bedtime, headed home. Tomorrow, I'll wake up with a hangover and realize that it's more trouble than it's worth, compared to the "sure thing" we have elsewhere. If you go and succeed, hey, buy me a beer. And post a report.
NJT
Does anyone know where you can get a private sauna in Beijing?
I'm thinking of somewhere you can bring a girlfriend that has a private sauna or hot tub in the room. I guess I'm thinking of places like in Japan when you go to the hot springs you can usually get a private room. Or maybe something like fancier love hotels in Japan or Taiwan.
Also if there's some place that will give you and a partner a legitimate massage then leave you alone to do your thing.
This would also be something you can rent for a few hours instead of overnight.
Thanks.
Steevyo
Thanks for the interesting and informative report...i am new to Beijing too and will avoid the pay for play scene here....not because i am morally opposed and aready am a fully paid up monger but purely because the prices here are out of control..Shanghai and Shenzen is a different story of course.
I am interested to know where you found the most success with the freebies....i mean where was it easiest to meet them?
Thanks in advance.Well I am not Casanova either Njtraveller.
Boweroy, I found my two ladies in Block 8 and the other one at Yugong Yishan. The 2 Europeans I had encounters with I met through my social circle so that is not really related to a certain location.
And i remember Block 8 to be a shit night and Yugong Yishan being almost empty. So not really an indicator for potential success.
Check the party scene on Beijinger or Cityweekend. Been to great night outs at Tango. Never liked the Parties at Lan Club (white party ugh!) even though the girls there were among the hottest I've seen in BJ.
Mesh and Q Bar are posh and more laid back and usually cramped with ladies.
And before it shut down you could always pick up a completely wasted (not from alcohol) girl at White Rabbit which some of my friends have done.
I'd always say that's below my standard, truth is though that I usually came crawling out of this place at five in the morning myself.
Bling if you like Hip Hop. All the girls sitting on tables in clubs are usually taken, as theres usually one local fat cat paying the bill. Fair enough. So best to be careful and avoid trouble there.
I've been everywhere I guess except Maggies and everything in Wudaokou.
Good luck.
For the next two months I will shift my spare time budget away from 'drinks in hopes of a shag' to 'sure shags and less drinking'.
A friend of mine was less lucky with his freebies. He got the younger girls, but all of them became extremely needy after the first night. One even telling him that 'she tried to commit suicide twice and might be in love'. I've read all the conversations he had to endure, really sad and uncomfortable stuff. So in that sense I am glad to be ultra defensive from the beginning telling them that I'm for play only. That way I stay in control. I think.
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One Eyed Man
08-06-09, 16:24
Club downstairs with 30 RMB ladies all-you-can-drink and 80 RMB for the rest of us suckers. NJT
I think the club downstairs is called Propaganda. It's a big foreign college hangout. Wednesday nights are especially popular, since it's all-you-can-drink for 80 RMB for men. My classmates (20 year-old Europeans) keep going back for *some* reason--I assume they're getting lucky.
Tamade4477
08-07-09, 09:03
Guys,
A very big news!
I had a good time with Maria last night. Maria is a very elegant girl with nice face and sexy body. I appreciate her friendly smile and patience. About 30 mins to my hotel after calling, RMB 1000, overnight. I enjoyed very much and give her another 200 tips.
Here's Maria's blog. At her blog you can find more choices because there're some sisters of Maria.
http://maria2050.blog.com/Sorry man, but I have to say that some of the pics are fake. A couple of them I recognize as professional porn stars in Japan. Can you verify that the escort you ordered matched the picture?
Member #3421
08-07-09, 09:28
Well I am not Casanova either Njtraveller.
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Bling if you like Hip Hop. All the girls sitting on tables in clubs are usually taken, as theres usually one local fat cat paying the bill. Fair enough. So best to be careful and avoid trouble there.
I've been everywhere I guess except Maggies and everything in Wudaokou.
Good luck.
For the next two months I will shift my spare time budget away from 'drinks in hopes of a shag' to 'sure shags and less drinking'.
A friend of mine was less lucky with his freebies. He got the younger girls, but all of them became extremely needy after the first night. One even telling him that 'she tried to commit suicide twice and might be in love'. I've read all the conversations he had to endure, really sad and uncomfortable stuff. So in that sense I am glad to be ultra defensive from the beginning telling them that I'm for play only. That way I stay in control. I think.
Steeevyo you sound like a wise man. I hope our paths cross.
Member #3421
08-07-09, 09:29
Guys,
A very big news!
I had a good time with Maria last night. Maria is a very elegant girl with nice face and sexy body. I appreciate her friendly smile and patience. About 30 mins to my hotel after calling, RMB 1000, overnight. I enjoyed very much and give her another 200 tips.
Here's Maria's blog. At her blog you can find more choices because there're some sisters of Maria.
http://maria2050.blog.com/
What a surprise! I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to hear more. Sorry, I shouldn't rise to the bait...
It is 2am and I just got back from going to Xiu at Park Hyatt and then Maggies...Xiu is a very cool nightclub by any standards, really top class..and it was full of STUNNING chinese girls but also loads of westerners too. But NJ Traveller you are so right..you would have to be a serious player to pull a real girl in a place like that...and to fair there were quite a few young, handsome players in there!! For all intents and purposes I may as well have been in New York, London or Sydney when it came to trying to pull...if you are not young handsome and cool you may as well forget it!! Stunning girls though and worth a look but not a plac to for the moner though i think....mind you though I went from there to Maggies (arriving at 1:00am on Friday night) and saw 2 Mongolian ils in Magies that I had seen earlier in Xiu....Maggies was a complete waste of time...100 guys, 5 ugly mongolians and 1 average Mongolian...the word "desperate" sprung to mind...can se myself going there again.....what a shame the Chinese Maggie girls dont go with girls!! Now that would be awesome as some of he Maggies girls were very cute....
On my way home I walked past a couple of barber shops close to Kunsha Building....got massage and hand job and feel breasts for 200 RMB and the girl was very cute actually and so were 2 of the other 4 girls in the shop...the girl that massaged me was 19 and probably an 8.5......there were all acually really nice girls and no hassles....not sure if full service wa on the menu...
Ok I will forget the nightclubs and focus now on internet...i have 2 dates this weekend and will report acordingly...
Transmuter
08-08-09, 00:21
Gents,
I know I'm not a great reporter. I'm a reader. And after I left BJ one and a half years ago after two great years it seemed this is kind of the right thing one can do. I never touched base with the heroes contributing to the forum but I'm sure we sat close to one another on the bar in M many times.
Later last year. On a business trip. I shared a splendid time with a regular Mongolian who was on the toilet and luckily not caught when M was raided the first time (this actually happened two days after I flew out to negotiate my new appointment that led my away from Beijing). She and a few others have kept me posted.
Now, I wanted to get back and I hear and read only horrible stories.
I wanted to stay in the Millenium in Cai fu Zhong xin. As this hotel was not finished when I left, can anybody tell about obstacles (in the sense of the forum's intent
Thanks
(BTW: Should also be reachable on PM and may be able to pay back in "numbers")
Member #3421
08-08-09, 02:45
I left just before you arrived at Maggie's Bowerboy. Alone. One of my favorites was there at the time but I expect she was taken when you arrived. The ratio was indeed terrible.
On my way out, I tried to do my part to help a sister through security and was soundly rebuffed. The guys were quite firm, and as the girl scurried off the manager approached me and politely explained that she had caused trouble previously and was not allowed in. I immediately apologized for trying to bring her in and headed off, deleting that particular number from my cell phone. Interestingly, she had tried to get me to head for Xiu @ Park Hyatt instead of getting her into Maggie's, but I wasn't up for that.
Interestingly, three other tall and interesting sisters were let in without escorts as this all transpired. One was stopped temporarily, but then approved. Again, I expect they quickly paired up and left before your arrival, Bowerboy. So possibilities still exist at Maggies, but you may need to pounce quickly when the opportunity arises.
NJT
Member #3421
08-09-09, 06:08
No really new information to report. I did have an adventure at Xiu, though what might have been at first glance a "freebie" turned out to be either a "serious Pro with great acting skills" or "a part-timer who was too inexperienced to know how to behave properly." I'm guessing the latter.
Advice to those who might benefit from it, not specific to this forum:
1. If there might be communication difficulties while closing the deal, get the girl to repeat to you the exact terms to your satisfaction. Before getting into the taxi. This saves a potential headache at step #2.
2. She strips in your room, perhaps asks for money first, and then you discover (surprise!) that the terms you had understood in step #1 were a problem. Are you prepared to give her 100 RMB and show her the door? Are you prepared to renegotiate on the fly, ruining the mood? Answer these questions for yourself before going out, so the little head doesn't win over the big head, perhaps leading to item #3.
3. The promise of "I show you great time" is simply not being fulfulled after a mediocre start, and she's enjoying the comforts of your Heavenly Bed while you toss and turn. Are you prepared to kick her out?
In spite of my best efforts, I didn't quite succeed at #1. I caved at #2. I wasn't thinking clearly and should have known better. I succeeded at #3, to her obvious surprise at 4 AM as she headed down the elevator alone without even a "thank you". Chinese, tall, initially rated as 9 probably more of 8.5. The true 9+ group at Xiu of all nationalities are tough approaches and many if not most may not be part of the game.
Be safe.
NJT
Member #3421
08-09-09, 12:06
On my way home I walked past a couple of barber shops close to Kunsha Building....got massage and hand job and feel breasts for 200 RMB and the girl was very cute actually and so were 2 of the other 4 girls in the shop...the girl that massaged me was 19 and probably an 8.5......there were all acually really nice girls and no hassles....not sure if full service wa on the menu...
The Kunsha building is a serious hike from Maggies... surely you either meant a different building, or you didn't walk the whole way?
Member #3421
08-10-09, 05:19
Things are deathly quiet on this board. As quiet as Maggie's last night. I was in and out twice and I didn't see a single northern sister. Chocolate around 11 pm was slowly warming up, with 5-6 girls in the bar area looking around to try to attract interest. 2-3 Mongolians, not sure about the others.
And as I promised, BBB, I spent some time at the Den. Nothing. Other than the Aussies beating up on England in cricket and the waitress happy to flirt.
Maybe with all the crackdowns which are happening prior to the party in October, many are simply keeping a low profile.
Which is not a bad idea; not that LE doesn't know where the hot-spots are anyway, but no need to attract further attention on this board or elsewhere at the moment.
No really new information to report. I did have an adventure at Xiu, though what might have been at first glance a "freebie" turned out to be either a "serious Pro with great acting skills" or "a part-timer who was too inexperienced to know how to behave properly." I'm guessing the latter.
Advice to those who might benefit from it, not specific to this forum:
1. If there might be communication difficulties while closing the deal, get the girl to repeat to you the exact terms to your satisfaction. Before getting into the taxi. This saves a potential headache at step #2.
2. She strips in your room, perhaps asks for money first, and then you discover (surprise!) that the terms you had understood in step #1 were a problem. Are you prepared to give her 100 RMB and show her the door? Are you prepared to renegotiate on the fly, ruining the mood? Answer these questions for yourself before going out, so the little head doesn't win over the big head, perhaps leading to item #3.
3. The promise of "I show you great time" is simply not being fulfulled after a mediocre start, and she's enjoying the comforts of your Heavenly Bed while you toss and turn. Are you prepared to kick her out?
In spite of my best efforts, I didn't quite succeed at #1. I caved at #2. I wasn't thinking clearly and should have known better. I succeeded at #3, to her obvious surprise at 4 AM as she headed down the elevator alone without even a "thank you". Chinese, tall, initially rated as 9 probably more of 8.5. The true 9+ group at Xiu of all nationalities are tough approaches and many if not most may not be part of the game.
Be safe.
NJT
Same thing happened to me last year. I met this pretty girl in HRC. She said she is thai chinese mix. Around 28 years old, maybe older. Had her own car. She drove me to Beijing international where I was staying. On the way she said she is a mamasan in one of the karaoke joints and she can get me really beautifull young girls. Once in the room she asked me for $200 although the agreed price was 1000 RMB. I said no and while she was in the bathroom I put my pocket money in the safe. She must have heard it and when she came out she started asking me why I put the money in the safe. I said it is my usual practice. For a while she kept on insisting I give her the money first. I put my foot down and said she can leave if she want and she will get the money only in the morning after two pops. I even promised her I will give her $200 if she is good. After all that drama she was really good in bed and stayed till 6 am. I fucked her again in the morning and gave her $200.
Next few days she kept on texting me saying she can come to the hotel with few young girls and I can select all night for 1000 RMB and 500 RMB for her. I did not take the offer because once the trust and friendliness is lost it is hard.
NJ....actually i was in taxi on way home and got him to stop when we passed those barber shops.....i hope i dont end up in the pridicament you described ...right now i am waiting for a girl to turn up that I met on the internet...i am pretty sure she is not a hooker but I will find out soon enough...met a girl from internet on Saturday and that worked out just fine...nice girl, sex on first date and NOT a hooker....lets see about this one tonight...I do have a bad feeling though and am a little nervous...has a job and seemed nice when i first met her for coffee but maybe a little eager to come here tonight....will let you know....
Internet may be the go for me...cant be bothered with clubs and all that...
Tequila Kid
08-10-09, 23:42
Was in Beijing last week for a couple of nights. Stayed at Lido.
Went to Pig & Thistle about 10.30pm. Lots of women, few men. Most 5/6’s. Had a beer and watched the action. About 11.30pm the women started leaving. I was sleepy so I left as well.
Next night, after dinner meeting, again looked into the Pig & Thistle about 10.30pm. Talent pool slightly improved, now ~6/7 range.
About 11pm, chatted up a local and offered 600rmb short time. She wanted 800rmb. If my Putonghua or her English were better we could have closed the deal. Anyway, I was not too hungry action at-any-cost so I left (yeah, I know I am cheap).
I should have had more patience, but the week was wearing me down and I did not see any ‘outstanding’ talent.
-TK
Fast Eddie 48
08-11-09, 00:30
Was in Beijing last week for a couple of nights. Stayed at Lido.
Went to Pig & Thistle about 10.30pm. Lots of women, few men. Most 5/6’s. Had a beer and watched the action. About 11.30pm the women started leaving. I was sleepy so I left as well.
Next night, after dinner meeting, again looked into the Pig & Thistle about 10.30pm. Talent pool slightly improved, now ~6/7 range.
About 11pm, chatted up a local and offered 600rmb short time. She wanted 800rmb. If my Putonghua or her English were better we could have closed the deal. Anyway, I was not too hungry action at-any-cost so I left (yeah, I know I am cheap).
I should have had more patience, but the week was wearing me down and I did not see any ‘outstanding’ talent.
-TKTK,
You stand your ground and hold firm on the price ,I have got all nighter there before at 800 rmb and 400 for ST, I think later it get the price will drop ,yes it help if you can bargin in mandarin ,is better than over paid and screw it up for everyone .
Fast eddie 48
Quote: Originally Posted by Peterwong2050
Guys,
A very big news!
I had a good time with Maria last night. Maria is a very elegant girl with nice face and sexy body. I appreciate her friendly smile and patience. About 30 mins to my hotel after calling, RMB 1000, overnight. I enjoyed very much and give her another 200 tips.
Here's Maria's blog. At her blog you can find more choices because there're some sisters of Maria.
http://maria2050.blog.com/
Sorry man, but I have to say that some of the pics are fake. A couple of them I recognize as professional porn stars in Japan. Can you verify that the escort you ordered matched the picture?Yeah, I have to agree on what Tama is saying, I have seen some of the pictures on Akiba-Online, but can't quite put a name on it though, in case you don't know what akiba-online is, it is a page with lots of AV porn and other hentai stuff.
Second internet date worked out very well.....been here 7 days now and 2 freebies from internet...not bad...i will try and post more indepth reports as i do want to share any useful information here as i do appreciate info that I have gathered from here over the years
NJT,
Interesting report. Saw you there the other night but was with a civilian so I didn't interrupt. Also wanted to see if the girl you pulled was a pro or an amateur on the prowl. Good to know on all accounts. What was damage?
Member #3421
08-12-09, 00:54
NJT,
Interesting report. Saw you there the other night but was with a civilian so I didn't interrupt. Also wanted to see if the girl you pulled was a pro or an amateur on the prowl. Good to know on all accounts. What was damage?
1500 supposedly LT, she asked 2000. Yes, above market price in other areas, but for a Chinese looker hanging out at Xiu I went with it. Sorry I didn't see you -- obviously had my attention elsewhere.
Hey All,
First time poster. Been with the USA site for years and have posted numerous times there (Hapa Dik).
I'm heading out to Beijing in October and would love to find some reliable places or sites to get women from. Don't want to spend a lot of money and won't have time for long dates as I'll be working most of the time I'll be there (just one week).
I've been searching and have found a ton of escort sites, but they all seem to recycle the same pics of girls. Any advice on how to find legit sites or locations that will give me everything I want for a good price?
Thanks for the help.
Hapadik
Hello all,
So on Saturday I went for Romantic Rabbit Retreat which is close to where I live and the report by 'Worm' sounded promising. If you Google the name and add Beijing you will find the address and a phone number. They are located at Jiangwai Soho and Van Palace (where I went).
Called them up to make an appointment at 7pm. Upon arrival a hottie let me in and guided me to a large bedroom with an attached bathroom. I had gone there before to get a business card and check the menu but when I got there for the real thing she didn't even ask me for the type of massage I wanted. Took a shower and when done was asked to lay myself on the king-size bed. Massage itself was ok but definitely not professional. Lots of oil though and lots of teasing. At some point she removed my towel leaving me completely naked and continued with her procedure. We started talking in English and I was using some of my rudimentary Putonghua. Her name was 'Summer' and she said she was from Hubei Province. After a while she asked me if I was interested in 'special service'. I wanted to know what that meant, and she said breast massage (boob job) and hand job. I asked her if she had more to offer but she basically pretended to not know what I was talking about. Her asking price was 1000 and knowing that this was way out of line I started negotiating. In the end we settled for 800. Hand and boob job her undressing and allowing me to touch her. I knew that I was overpaying but I was also horny as hell and wanted to get things going. Her performance was very professional and very pleasing. I touched her everywhere she gave some fake moans and kept eye contact the entire time which I like. Tried to kiss her but only came close. The boob job was the best one I ever had even though I would suspect her tits were fake. Came in no time but not because she rushed but because I had built up quite some pressure in recent days. She cleaned me up and we had a shower afterwards and talked the remaining 15 minutes (total was 60). She also said to do home service. I'm considering going back with friends maybe try another girl to get some FS. But I'm not paying another 800 without BJ and further action.
All in all found the location to be very clean and pleasing.
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Summer is definitely hot but the other girl there, Helen is nasty (in the good way).
There is more on the menu with Summer but you have to ask for it and pay more for it. She might not provide it to first time visitors.
I'm heading out to Beijing in October and would love to find some reliable places or sites to get women from....
BAD timing. China will be celebrating its 60th birthday and Beijing will be squeaky clean. Go elsewhere. You may not even get a visa for October.
Member #3421
08-15-09, 18:36
Tried to have Chinese before dinner tonight, but the girl at the sauna wasn't playing ball. Goodbye, hello Mr. Right Hand. After a tediously long dinner with co-workers I dropped by M's around 11:30. Sausage-fest in full swing. Made a quick detour to the other end of Ritan Park where Russian take-out was predictably excellent once again (thanks for the digits, BBB). Returned to M's around 1:00, expecting things to be grim.
Good news: there were northern sisters (include a few real lookers) milling around unattached. Most of the sausage appeared oblivious, not in the game. One group included two female expats. Didn't stay long, having no real appetite for another late-night snack, but the opportunities were there.
Be safe, NJT.
Member #3421
08-16-09, 06:10
Tried to have Chinese before dinner tonight, but the girl at the sauna wasn't playing ball. Goodbye, hello Mr. Right Hand. After a tediously long dinner with co-workers I dropped by M's around 11:30. Sausage-fest in full swing. Made a quick detour to the other end of Ritan Park where Russian take-out was predictably excellent once again (thanks for the digits, BBB). Returned to M's around 1:00, expecting things to be grim.
Good news: there were northern sisters (include a few real lookers) milling around unattached. Most of the sausage appeared oblivious, not in the game. One group included two female expats. Didn't stay long, having no real appetite for another late-night snack, but the opportunities were there.
Be safe, NJT.
Hit a different sauna this AM with more determination, much more upscale. Embassy area of Chaoyang, PM me for details if you are interested. Advice to newbies: RTFF. A senior member says, "lay down on the table naked instead of wearing the little shorts," it's probably good advice. I wasted some time yesterday. Mea culpa.
60 minute oil massage (excellent on its own and though pricey at 580 is below market rate for 5* hotel-type-of-place). Good teasing along the way. Tip (payable to the girl, not the desk) 300 for a very happy ending with lots of attention in many places. Yes, you could get a similar ending for less elsewhere. Yes, I might have tried to negotiate, but at least she didn't ask for 500 or 1000. You could do much worse. I was looking for a change of pace and great service for the same price ballpark as ST around Ritan Park. I found it.
Visited a barber shop at 10:30 pm on Saturday night and had really great service....250RMB for topless massage with handjob and finish with her jacking me off in beween her very nice tits...all girls in shop very smiley and laughing and and all round nice experience, about 30 minutes in total...girl was maybe a 7 and was 25 years old....not sure why not more BBS places mentioned on here...am I missing something?? I have had really good experience in these places so far....The bbs I visited was between the kunsha building and capital mansion building...on the rght hand side of road as you walk from kunsha building....tonight i got it on with internet girl number 3, a lovely Mongolian mathamatics teacher...25 years old, 161 cms and 48 kilos.....Internet is easy here to get dates....had 2 dates on Saturday (afternoon and evening) but didnt work out as the girls too serious about full time boyfriend....met Mongolian girl today, spent couple of hours together then back to my place....offended when I offered to pay for taxi and no mention of money or anything like that...lovely girl although really looking for husband.......hearing great things about some of the bars in Houhai Lake area and will investigate this coming weekend....happy hunting!!
Bored In Beijing
08-17-09, 03:15
Happened to come across a pretty good BBS late last night. On the West side of Dongdaqiao Lu about 300m north of the Chaowai intersection. There are 2 BBS close to each other but I chose the one on the street rather than the one set back from the street.
Anyway, 3 girls in the place. All very friendly and quite chatty. Picked the youngest and (IMHO) the best looking. Early 20's, slim with small tits and a very firm ass. Straight off the bat she offered a BJ for RMB300. She would not move on price and played dumb when I mentioned FS. So I thought what the heck.
Her friend came in early on to do the "2 girls very good" thing but I said no and she said OK and left. My girl took her skirt off and got on with a rather pleasant CBJ. Let me finger her and play with her tits. No rushing. I shot my bolt and she cleaned me up. Paid my money, no talk of a tip, said goodbye and left.
This was definitely one of my better BBS experiences. Very clean cubicles, no up selling and no hassle. Nice friendly girls.
After four months in the wasteland that is Tianjin, I promised myself I would get to greener pastures. Last weekend I enjoyed Qingdao (incall, massage, and beer festival). This weekend I am taking the "bullet" to BJ to celebrate my birthday.
I know the drill, will bargain, and promise not to over pay. I have done the Landmark and had "take out" from the Hard Rock, but never found Maggies to exciting. Now I know I went too early.
I am staying in Wiangfujing Grand Hotel. Any other birthday recommendations?
Thanks
When I stayed around Wangfujing at the Sofitel, there were several Papasan and Mamasans hanging around. The few that I tried, sent me lemons that was wham, bang and thank u's for 500-600.
I am going to Qingdao in a couple of months. Its my first time. Any suggestions on where to stay and where to get some action? I was looking at the ShangriLa Hotel?
When I stayed around Wangfujing at the Sofitel, there were several Papasan and Mamasans hanging around. The few that I tried, sent me lemons that was wham, bang and thank u's for 500-600.
I am going to Qingdao in a couple of months. Its my first time. Any suggestions on where to stay and where to get some action? I was looking at the ShangriLa Hotel?Read my report under Qingdao...I stayed at the Copthorne
Order in from the 4th floor, I highly recommend Pauline (Kushan) very responsive, but if you tell her you will be around for a few days, she will ring your room..a buzz kill if you have another guest.
Go to the beach it is really nice
Thunderbolt
08-21-09, 05:09
Walking back from my dinner on the big shopping street behind Ritz Carlton and JW Marriott at China Central Place. It was just after 9pm and many of the girls were getting off work, made for nice eye candy.
Getting close to JW Marriott lower level entrance, a young Chinese guy approached and asked me if I wanted a massage. He came across 100% gay and I suppose he read my face reaction as he quickly said "I've got sexy girls for you, 600RMB! ". I told him his price was nuts, but if he had a beauty, I might consider 500RMB. After his promise of "girls will be here in 5 minutes" was broken, I started off on foot to put some distance between us. He followed and handed me his phone, with a very sexy woman's voice promising she would arrive very soon. So I sat back down, swapped "Mike's" phone for his business card, and in a few minutes 3 girls were scrambling from a little white taxi. They came over to and introduced themselves, and I ran a quick job interview.
Chose XiaoNa because of her looks, confidence, better English, and distinctively better ass. She took my arm and we did the walk of shame into the hotel. Took some pics in the room. Showered together, no BJ, covered sex, took a real pounding, about 40 minutes in my room, 500RMB. For the service, I suspect she would have gone for less. Might repeat.
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Member #3377
08-21-09, 05:13
What is BBS?
Thunderbolt
08-21-09, 05:24
Tried one of the numbers mentioned here for outcall. Sent a text message to Lisa and she called back to set up a same day late afternoon appointment. Took about an hour for YangYang (? ) to arrive. Early 20s, short, sexy lingerie, and so-so face. Paid RMB 500 or 600 plus 100 taxi. Shower together before and after. Stayed a bit more than one hour with poor massage, average sex of covered BJ and covered FS. Almost no English skills. Lisa called back next day same time to see if I need seconds. Search Lisa here or check the website with same phone. The girl who came to me looked absolutely nothing like the (fake? ) photos on the website. Lisa aka Miss Li.
http://www.citybj.com/massage/fhpps/
Matsui San
08-21-09, 06:09
When I stayed around Wangfujing at the Sofitel, there were several Papasan and Mamasans hanging around. The few that I tried, sent me lemons that was wham, bang and thank u's for 500-600.
I am going to Qingdao in a couple of months. Its my first time. Any suggestions on where to stay and where to get some action? I was looking at the ShangriLa Hotel?Don't worry, they will find you if you are staying at the Shangrila. The place is swarming with your favorite dessert, along Hong Kong rd, and around.
Greetings everyone,
I am a first timer in Beijing -- I live in Singapore otherwise, so I am pretty used to a lively mongering scene. I arrived yesterday, thinking that the Hard Rock Cafe would be a good place to find some WGs either inside or outside. Previous reports in this forum stated a 100 RMB cover was needed, however I was not asked to pay cover. Inside, mostly American/European tourists and ZERO WGs inside or in the immediate vicinity. I left around 12:30am after having a couple of beers. I flagged down three taxis, none of which understood "Maggie's" so I decided to go back to the Grand Hyatt.
I am going to be here all week and am bored out of my mind. Any advice on the "current" scene here in Beijing would be appreciated as a lot of the previous information seems outdated.
Loveasiangirls
08-23-09, 18:20
What is BBS?
Click on abbreviations at the top of the page.
Loveasiangirls
08-23-09, 18:22
Greetings everyone,
I am a first timer in Beijing -- I live in Singapore otherwise, so I am pretty used to a lively mongering scene. I arrived yesterday, thinking that the Hard Rock Cafe would be a good place to find some WGs either inside or outside. Previous reports in this forum stated a 100 RMB cover was needed, however I was not asked to pay cover. Inside, mostly American/European tourists and ZERO WGs inside or in the immediate vicinity. I left around 12:30am after having a couple of beers. I flagged down three taxis, none of which understood "Maggie's" so I decided to go back to the Grand Hyatt.
I am going to be here all week and am bored out of my mind. Any advice on the "current" scene here in Beijing would be appreciated as a lot of the previous information seems outdated.
All the hotel doormen know the place. Ask your hotel doorman to tell the taxi driver where to take you.
Bad Boy Billy
08-23-09, 23:46
Greetings everyone,
I am a first timer in Beijing.........thinking that the Hard Rock Cafe would be a good place to find some WGs either inside or outside.........Inside, mostly American/European tourists and ZERO WGs inside or in the immediate vicinity. I left around 12:30am after having a couple of beers........ I flagged down three taxis, none of which understood "Maggie's" so I decided to go back to the Grand Hyatt........... Any advice on the "current" scene here in Beijing would be appreciatedRTFF - RTFF - RTFF - you only need to go back a few pages and you will see info clearly stating that HRC is totally useless.
Previously there was 3 or 4 taxis camped outside HRC who did know what 'Maggies' meant - they would not take you there on meter but RMB20 would get the job done.
Also plenty of info on Maggies and alternatives recently in this thread - Njtravelleer has consistently been posting accurate and up to date reports of state of play.
Clearly Sammy, Zhuren and Intransit have reverted to their 'gay' ways and have not recently been chasing pussy hence no reports from them.
RTFF - RTFF - RTFF - you only need to go back a few pages and you will see info clearly stating that HRC is totally useless.
Previously there was 3 or 4 taxis camped outside HRC who did know what 'Maggies' meant - they would not take you there on meter but RMB20 would get the job done.
Also plenty of info on Maggies and alternatives recently in this thread - Njtravelleer has consistently been posting accurate and up to date reports of state of play.
Clearly Sammy, Zhuren and Intransit have reverted to their 'gay' ways and have not recently been chasing pussy hence no reports from them.
Billy - don't get all jealous - you know we save our gay activity for when you are in town. : )
I have not been out in a long time, but periodically get text messages from various girls. I'll go out sometime this week and make a survey of the current situation. I am sure that things are slow right now, but there may be some action to be found.
Phreeze – go to the maggie’s website and you can print a map: http://www.maggiesbar.com/map.html
You can also send an SMS to: 134 6666 0 777 with “maggies” in the body and it will send you the address in English. Reply to that message with “c” in the body and it will send you the address in Chinese. you can then show the Chinese address to a taxi driver (if your phone is able to display Chinese characters). Worst case you will get the bar's phone number, and you can have the taxi driver call for directions. This SMS service is very helpful in locating bars in Beijing, and it is free. Additional information can be found on their website at: http://www.mobilenative.com/sms_help.php
send me a PM with your mobile number and perhaps we can hook up.
Sammy
Thanks for the below information -- very useful. I'll send you a PM as soon as my membership is activated. I'll be here until Saturday.
You can also send an SMS to: 134 6666 0 777 with “maggies” in the body and it will send you the address in English. Reply to that message with “c” in the body and it will send you the address in Chinese. you can then show the Chinese address to a taxi driver (if your phone is able to display Chinese characters). Worst case you will get the bar's phone number, and you can have the taxi driver call for directions. This SMS service is very helpful in locating bars in Beijing, and it is free. Additional information can be found on their website at: http://www.mobilenative.com/sms_help.php
Greetings everyone,
I am a first timer in Beijing -- I live in Singapore otherwise, so I am pretty used to a lively mongering scene. I arrived yesterday, thinking that the Hard Rock Cafe would be a good place to find some WGs either inside or outside. Previous reports in this forum stated a 100 RMB cover was needed, however I was not asked to pay cover. Inside, mostly American/European tourists and ZERO WGs inside or in the immediate vicinity. I left around 12:30am after having a couple of beers. I flagged down three taxis, none of which understood "Maggie's" so I decided to go back to the Grand Hyatt.
I am going to be here all week and am bored out of my mind. Any advice on the "current" scene here in Beijing would be appreciated as a lot of the previous information seems outdated.If you are really desparate and money is no object, walk down the street to the Wangfujing Grand Hotel (Wangfujing St). They have a Sunshine Club. The cute and innocent hostess will say all you need to know to upon entering: "We have ladies who will sit and drink with you for RMB500, and ladies you can take home for RMB2000." They have at least 100 girls there... Option 2: There is a sauna on same side of street if you continue NORTH past the Wangfujing Grand Hotel and cross WUSI street. Should be on left side after you pass the intersection.Have not tried this place, but it does have FS. Option 3: Pig and Whistle Bar at Lido Hotel --often a lot of older gals, but usually some decent pickings, occassionally some good surprises.
Walking back from my dinner on the big shopping street behind Ritz Carlton and JW Marriott at China Central Place. It was just after 9pm and many of the girls were getting off work, made for nice eye candy.
Getting close to JW Marriott lower level entrance, a young Chinese guy approached and asked me if I wanted a massage. He came across 100% gay and I suppose he read my face reaction as he quickly said "I've got sexy girls for you, 600RMB! ". I told him his price was nuts, but if he had a beauty, I might consider 500RMB.
Hah. Met the same guy on Saturday. Girl (from Harbin) was cute, but unfortunately providing absolutely dreadful service. Wouldn't allow to switch positions from missionary. Was chewing gum during the act. Laid there like a dead fish.
My worst masturbation experience was by far better than this. Damage 500. Gave me her phone number to get around the mamasan fee.
I said "don't call me, I will call you".
Summary:
'Xiaojie bu hao'.
Mr Handjob
08-24-09, 15:33
I just can't resist to ask if all the expertese in this forum have some strong recommendation for my whish. I am looking for some decent naked massage with a proper finish. Not FS or BJ. I have troed some of the ladies from Craigslist but when it comes to Beijing it is just not possible not to be disapointed on these ads. I have tried some Street Walkers but there is always problems with the langage. For FS I understand that you need to pay 600-800 but for just naked massage, some touching and 1 or 2 happy moments you should be able to get away with 300-500 for 90-120 minutes in the comfort of your own hotelroom. Any recomendations? prefereble with phone number and/or pic.
Member #3421
08-24-09, 21:50
Billy - don't get all jealous - you know we save our gay activity for when you are in town. : )
I have not been out in a long time, but periodically get text messages from various girls. I'll go out sometime this week and make a survey of the current situation. I am sure that things are slow right now, but there may be some action to be found.
Phreeze – go to the maggie’s website and you can print a map: http://www.maggiesbar.com/map.html
You can also send an SMS to: 134 6666 0 777 with “maggies” in the body and it will send you the address in English. Reply to that message with “c” in the body and it will send you the address in Chinese. you can then show the Chinese address to a taxi driver (if your phone is able to display Chinese characters). Worst case you will get the bar's phone number, and you can have the taxi driver call for directions. This SMS service is very helpful in locating bars in Beijing, and it is free. Additional information can be found on their website at: http://www.mobilenative.com/sms_help.php
send me a PM with your mobile number and perhaps we can hook up.
Sammy
Once again, Sammy pulls something fabulously useful out of thin air...
Member #3421
08-24-09, 22:40
For those of you who haven't been following this thread, I owe BBB bigtime for giving me the digits of a Russian spinner-type a few weeks back. I say "spinner-type" because she's built like it, but for the most part was an all-business Russian w.h.o.r.e... one hour/one time, whichever cums first, 1000 RMB, quick to strip, wants you naked ASAP, looking to get back quickly to the dungeon that is Hollywood in order to maximize profits for the evening.
Round 1. She won.
Round 2. Tie.
Round 3. I won, but in spite of my best efforts I don't think she came before time was called.
Each time, conversation got better, and she was obviously happy to have a repeat client staying in a decent hotel who treated her well and offered taxi money without being asked. As for me, why repeat with a Russian in Beijing? Or, to anticipate Zhuren's question, why Russian at all? Well, she was completely "my type" and a dependable connection to have at a time when Maggie's and my other haunts couldn't offer the same historical "sure thing". In finance, put together a few good options and you get a nice hedge, offering guaranteed security regardless of market performance.
Now, I said "dependable connection" above. Not exactly. Rounds 2 and 3 involved my tracking her down at Hollywood and getting lucky on the timing. Although I had her number and tried texting her, she never replied. Until one day...
I had an unexpected window of time arise in an otherwise busy workweek, so I booked a suite, jumped in a cab, and headed for the playground. On the way, I texted her, "text me if you are around." Around 11 PM she texts me that she's at a restaurant near Hollywood, what am I up to? I said "I'm on my way." She was dressed casual, sweatpants and a t-shirt, finishing off dinner in front of her laptop, skyping with her brother. She'd taken the last 2 nights off, so by my math Round 3 may have been her last official business.
I made a quick decision. Look, I'm not BF material. I'm also not exactly tall, dark, young and handsome. And I was in the mood for something different that night. "2000, all night, let's just have fun." We dumped her laptop at my room and headed out into the warm, damp night air. Wandered a bit. I had two drinks, she declined an offer of "anything she wanted" at a well-stocked establishment known to many of you. By 1:30 AM she was tugging at my elbow, wanting to go back to the hotel.
This isn't a "Dear Penthouse" letter. I'll just say that we checked out an hour late and went to Starbucks together for late breakfast/lunch at 1 PM. Mindblowing GFE. We clicked, we won. Enough said.
The lesson, which can never be repeated enough: treat a girl well and if you repeat it might pay off. And: you know you maybe, finally, deserve the "Senior Member" label when a Russian w.h.o.r.e. texts you on her day off and blows your mind.
To be fair, though, YMMV and there is no recipe to follow. Maybe that's part of what makes this so much fun. BBB, surely you remember the movie star? She was much closer to a GFE in Round 1. Ah, memories...
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