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I am sure if you scroll through there, Ira Johnson seems to be able to courier those.
FK
Sorry my friend you lost me. You mean scroll through Beijing (BJ)? If you mean mail order, I don't have that much time in BJ and BTW, who is Ira Johnson?
Jude Bright
11-05-10, 23:38
Sorry my friend you lost me. You mean scroll through Beijing (BJ)? If you mean mail order, I don't have that much time in BJ and BTW, who is Ira Johnson?
Look at the classified ad section on this board and you will found the info you are looking for
JB
After 2 hours of sleep a long day was in front of me. With meetings starting at 07:30 and finishing at 18:00 I've had little chances of being in a god shape during the night. After my morning meetings I was seriously thinking of canceling the dinner with Denize and Mina but I decided just to wait until late afternoon and see my mood. After my last meeting I was feeling OK. I said to myself “it is just going to be dinner” so never mind. And of course on top of everything I really wanted to “explore” Mina.
Night two
The sms indicating the dinner place has arrived and after a good shower I headed to the restaurant. Red meet is not exactly my type of food but I've had to imagine that when you ask two Mongolians to decide about the food there is gone to be a lot of meet in the table. In any case the food was fine and during the dinner we had a wonderful discussion with Mina (Denize was mostly listening).
I was expecting that the food will make me more sleepy but finally after the dinner I was in a good shape and I proposed to Mina and Denize to go for a drink. It was about 21:30 and being close to the Hard Rock cafe I proposed to go there for a drink and listen the live band. Hard Rock was less than half full and the Philippino band was performing good. One guy was siting alone in the bar and I noticed that he had his eyes in Denize; this girl is definitely one of the sexiest creatures I've seen and especially that night she was something else on her tight black dress. Mina and her discussed something among them in Mongolian and then I asked Denize if she wanted me to invite the guy with us. She told “no, tonight I am with you” and she smiled. I really wanted to be straight clear and I mentioned that I'll not continue for a long time since I was tired and I'll not accompany them the whole night (that was what I was thinking at that moment). She said “it's fine, but no need to invite the guy”. Fine for me too and our glasses being half empty I proposed a second drink. Denize tells us then that she doesn't like Hard Rock very much and maybe we can move in another place. And then Mina said “Yes, not the place that I was expecting a guy like you will go with two girls (smile). Don't you know any other more interesting and live place? (smile)”. She was teasing me but she pressed the button.
Did I knew any other more interesting and live place? One and only one; A club just opposite of the hotel I stayed the first time I was in Beijing (two months before the current visit). I could not even remember the name BUT the address was saved in the google maps in my mobile. So, I took up the gauntlet and I told them “let's go”. (I've had a certain difficulty to explain to the taxi driver the destination but once I mentioned the name of the hotel he understood. In less that 20 minutes after we were entering Dao).
Now let me make a parenthesis here. I've visited that club twice during my first visit in Beijing due to its proximity to my hotel. The first night I stayed only for 15 minutes because the only think I wanted was a drink before going to bed. The second night I've had couple of drinks with a Chinese stunner (Mariza) that she works in the club. My understanding is that she works there as a kind of hostess/drink companion but nothing else. In any case we've had a couple of drinks together and we exchange phone numbers.
The very moment (literally) I am entering the club with Denize and Mina, Mariza is on her way out and when she sees me she has a great surprise in her phase, she gives me a big smile, hugs me and kisses me. I mean I was expecting that she will be there but not that I'll see her in front of me the moment I enter the club with two girls! I liked it :-B
She tells me that she is on her way out just to make a phone call and she will be back in 5 minutes.
We sat in a table with Denize and Mina and ordered a bottle of whiskey. Mina is a wild think when it comes to clubbing ans she likes dancing. Five minutes after the whiskey was served she was standing up with the glass in her hand and started dancing in front of our table (although the club has a dancing area). Her dance was sensational, closed eyes, head back and all the nice things that make all men eyes to turn on her direction. I've decided that I'll leave her to dance for a couple of more minutes alone and then I'll ask her to dance together. At this moment Mariza arrives and is taking a place in the sofa next to me. Mina stops dancing, I make the introductions and we cheer all together. Mina looks at me and Mariza and then she starts dancing again. I stand up and I am trying to go to her side while Mariza has also stood up and start also dancing. Before making my final move to ask Mina to dance, Mariza extends her hands to me and makes a move with her head asking me to go to dance. I was puzzled (and I'll explain later why) and my reaction was to look at Mina. She immediately tells to me, “go, go she is asking you”. We danced for about 10 minutes with Mariza and then I excused myself saying that I want to go to the WC.
Back to the table and after feeling up our glasses and drinking a gulp of whiskey I take Mina to dance. That dance was so nice, we were flirting for all the duration of the dance and I felt exactly as I was feeling when I was flirting with girls at student parties many years ago. We danced for some minutes and then we went back to the table. I took Denize to dance this time and after dancing with her back to the table. The next one hour continued at the same pace and then I was feeling really tired and I was about to call the night. I just wanted a last dance with Mina. Just 3 minutes into the dance and Mariza appears next to us and starts also dancing. I was again puzzled. Mina was really pissed off; she immediately left us and headed to the table. I went after her.
And now the explanation on why I was puzzled: I am not a handsome guy (I am neither ugly also); I dress up well, I am very clean and I do make women have a good time with me but I am not the type of guy that women will fight for (and especially a very beautiful girl like Mina or a stunner like Mariza). So Mariza's move could be explained by two options. Either that she was feeling a kind of “professional obligation” to dance with me or that she just wanted to “show off” to Mina. I never found out what was but I just wanted to mention this for clarity.
Back to the table I just explained to Mina that she shouldn't have left because I was dancing with her and I've had no intention to abandon her and she told me that she was very flattered that I followed her in the table. I've decided to call the night so I pay the bill, go and say a good bye to Mariza, and we exit the club with Denize and Mina and looking for a taxi. At this point Mina with a big smile is asking “What's next? Some more drinks?”. I really wanted to go to my hotel and sleep but the button was on again so I reply “Let's go to Maggie's”.
It is almost 2 in the morning, Maggies is full of people and myself, Denize and Mina for sure half if not entirely drank. We sit at the bar (we managed to find a small available spot), Denize is taking a drink and leaves us and we start the shots with Mina. We probably had 4 each one of us and at that point we were really drank. It is a bit before 3 am and she then asks me if I can “take her back to her place” and I immediately agree. I knew I couldn't have sex at that point but I just wanted to be with her.
We are arriving at her apartment, and we start a very emotional discussion into very personal issues. She then takes me by the had and we go to the bed, she tells me “I can not ask money from you tonight” and we sleep (just sleep) together hugging each other very tight. I had a last brain cell again working and I remembered to put the alarm clock in my mobile for 06:30. Next morning my meetings were starting at 09:00 but given the time I needed to go to my hotel (why I booked it?, I started to ask myself) I had to wake up at 06:30 and that means that I've had only 2 hours of sleep available only.
Next day I skip lunch and I had an additional hour of sleep and early afternoon we started exchanging sms with Mina and we arrange to meet at her place in the evening.
Night three
I didn't know how I managed to keep myself awake after the previous two nights but at 20:00 I was in Mina's place were we had a wonderful time like a couple. Having dinner together, looking a movie and finally going to the bed, having an amazing sex and then some sleep. I managed to sleep for only one hour and then I woke up and started to ask myself what is happening with me. I was starting to fell in love with her and I knew that this should not continue. I told Mina that I have to leave, she told me “I understand” and I left by leaving also an amount of money to her desk.
The end on “Part III”
Just heard that one of my ex girlfriends got picked up. Don't know what the fine was but since she couldn't pay it she got to spend 2 weeks in jail. Does anyone know what the living conditions are for hookers in Beijing jails, and what happens if they get caught a second time?
New Bee123
11-07-10, 19:39
Where is Xiu?
Hi Guys,
My first post and I'm happy to share my many experiences across China. Its harder and harder to find PYTs these days and I'm happy to find this forum for the help.
I've been hitting BJ a lot this year and am usually really good at sniffing out all kinds of action, but BJ has so far eluded me. One night during the summer (it was during the World Cup) I walked from Sanlitun to the Hard Rock Cafe and the Landmark, then back to Workers Stadium thinking I might find some street action, but nothing to be found. I had quite a few beers along the way and just wasn't ready to give up. I hoped into a taxi and made it to Xiu. I had been there a few times before and knew that there should be action and figured 1:00 am wasn't too late. It wasn't. Plenty of WGs around. I ended up with one decent looking, kind of exotic, hell, maybe even a tad of LB about her (weird) but she seemed nice and the oddness was sexy. Negotiated for like 800 and went back to the hotel. She negotiated for more but I was firm. Demanded payment first. Was a bit of a buzz kill about that time. Didn't really want to do anything expect BBBJ and CIM and worked hard and fast at it, so much so that it wasn't that great.
The real points (2) are this:
1. Xiu definitely has action but it will be 800+ (I speak Chinese and I believe this helps with the price as girls know that you "know" they are more expensive, plus you aren't the foreign businessman in town for a night or two willing to pay for the experience and fun.
2. I passed out and she "almost" robbed me blind! I barely even remember anything after blowing my wad but she laid down next to me until I woke with a start with the sun shining in my room. I panicked and went straight to my pants. Wallet still there less my cash (funny, I had some New Taiwan Dollars that looked like RMB but were worth about 20 RMB each) but thankfully she left my wallet. More importantly, she didn't take my iPhone in my other pocket! Damn. I'm usually a lot more careful. So, guys, be careful out there.
Last thing. She also took a can of nuts which set me back another RMB40! DIdn't find that out until check out. Biatch.
Baaad
Bad Boy Billy
11-07-10, 21:42
Welcome to the Beijing forum Lifeingr - always good to see new posters.
Personally your reports are way too long and far too many details for my choice - but that is my personal opinion - much rather just see w.hores names, locations, prices and services agreed to - but others may well have a different opinion.
These 2 w.hores Tenize and Mina - when you found them in Maggies first night where were they sitting:
1. At the 2 tall tables directly in front of you as you enter Maggies door
OR
2. At the 2 tall tables to the LHS of Maggies as you enter door, walk past cloak room and entrance to toilets?
I only know one Mina - she is about 5ft tall - best friend of tall slim Annu - also a friend of Aggi and spikey Oggi - some of you other guys might know her too.
I will be in BJ on 14th for 5 nights - will go find Tenize and Mina.
Keep up the good work Lifeingr - keep the reports coming.
Dbhappiness
11-08-10, 01:19
Welcome. I have to agree. Way to long on the report. I could not read it all. I found my self "skimming" for the Price, looks, location, and SEX words.
Have a blast!
DBH
Just heard that one of my ex girlfriends got picked up. Don't know what the fine was but since she couldn't pay it she got to spend 2 weeks in jail. Does anyone know what the living conditions are for hookers in Beijing jails, and what happens if they get caught a second time?
If she was Chinese from Beijing (ie, Beijing ID card) then she will be in a local Beijing jail. Shitty conditions - for example they do not provide meals for the prisioners, the family is expected to provide it for them.
If she has a non-Beijing ID card then she was probably sent back to her hometown and put in the local jail. Probably worse conditions than above. If her family did not know she was hooking, then they probably do now.
I have never heard of a Mongolian girl getting put in jail for longer than a night. Usually they are picked up, spend the night in jail, and then their passports are stamped saying they must depart China within 10 days. Usually they cannot return for a couple of years.
I wish her luck!
Sammy
Welcome to the Beijing forum Lifeingr - always good to see new posters.
Personally your reports are way too long and far too many details for my choice - but that is my personal opinion - much rather just see w.hores names, locations, prices and services agreed to - but others may well have a different opinion.
These 2 w.hores Tenize and Mina - when you found them in Maggies first night where were they sitting:
1. At the 2 tall tables directly in front of you as you enter Maggies door
OR
2. At the 2 tall tables to the LHS of Maggies as you enter door, walk past cloak room and entrance to toilets?
I only know one Mina - she is about 5ft tall - best friend of tall slim Annu - also a friend of Aggi and spikey Oggi - some of you other guys might know her too.
I will be in BJ on 14th for 5 nights - will go find Tenize and Mina.
Keep up the good work Lifeingr - keep the reports coming.
BBB -
Looking forward to your visit! In his origional post he said he changed the names. I think I know the same Mina you know, and his description does not match her personality. I was thinking he might be refering to our favorite Mongolian tag team, T & Z, but not sure.
I personally like reading all of the details. Keep up the good work Lifeingr!
Sammy
Finally, after being in Beijing for close to a year, I grew a pair and ventured alone to the famed bar. I guess this is due to the fact that most of the time I try to meet up with fellow ISGers I get ignored.FK -
I don't remember ever being contacted by you, but if you will PM me your mobile number I will let you know next time the "regulars" get together. I can do nothing about being old and fat, but I'll leave my leasure suit at home!
Sammy
Bad Boy Billy
11-08-10, 04:23
BBB.......In his origional post he said he changed the names.......I was thinking he might be refering to our favorite Mongolian tag team, T & Z, but not sure.Oh ok I missed the point about the name change. - I did not read it too closely - not T & Z if they smoked - never seen either one with pearls on either - but who knows.
Yes see you next week - will you be bringing your 'little woman' Jesse with you?
Loveasiangirls
11-08-10, 12:23
Where is Xiu?
In the Park Hyatt hotel.
Thanks Sammy. Question about being sent back to hometown. I can't imagine the local police escorting all the girls back, and I can't imagine the girls just voluntarily reporting to their hometown police station. How does this work?
Thanks
The Tanuki
11-09-10, 06:48
As always, the foray into Beijing was nothing at all like previous ones. It's always something different there! Great to finally meet the notorious Fernando Alonso, though I missed out on some other connections during the weekend.
Although I was not shopping at Maggies, merely getting wasted, I did notice that the quality has gone downhill. Others have noted the same recently. Of course there are exceptions, and everyone's tastes differ, but I just don't get the woody in there like in the past. The music's great there, and the bar service is always solid. Still lots of fun!
I was not in a position to chat with any of the ladies at Chocolate, but OMFG if you want awesome SYT's, that place is over the top! Plus you can get a water pipe with flavored tobacco, drinks half the price of Maggies, and live music and funny shows.
Had a few firsts this time, including kicking out the massage girl at Kerry after she kept bugging me to give her 2000 RMB for a frigging hand job. WTF are those idiots thinking? Great view at the Atmosphere Bar, but the service was lame. Anyhow, it's been great partying there, but don't know whether I'll have a chance to get back again.
Cheers and Happy Hunting
The Tanuki
I was in Beijing this week and find the announcements of the demise of Maggies somewhat exaggerated. I was there Monday night (not traditionally a strong night) and there was an almost normal amount of Mongolian girls, and again the same on Wednesday. The action started perhaps even later than usual (after 00:30 AM. I did see quite a few new faces, at least new to me, although the majority of the girls have been around for more than one year I would say.
Interestingly, I was approached by a Chinese girl from Chongqing, who spoke good English. She was quite aggressive. As a rule, I don't take Chinese girls out of Maggies (and I prefer Mongolians anyway). Just when I had decided to call it a night, I met Toia, a nice 30 year old with a very good body for her age, and a perfect attitude. I took her home wth me, and we had a very good time. Damage was 1000 RMB all night. Definitely a repeater, although she claimed she didn't know yet if she was going to stay in Beijing or go back.
She's a friend of the fake blonde with the punk hairdo (people who frequent M will know who I mean).
FernandoAlonso
11-11-10, 05:04
I was in Beijing this week and find the announcements of the demise of Maggies somewhat exaggerated. I was there Monday night (not traditionally a strong night) and there was an almost normal amount of Mongolian girls, and again the same on Wednesday. The action started perhaps even later than usual (after 00: 30 AM. I did see quite a few new faces, at least new to me, although the majority of the girls have been around for more than one year I would say.
Interestingly, I was approached by a Chinese girl from Chongqing, who spoke good English. She was quite aggressive. As a rule, I don't take Chinese girls out of Maggies (and I prefer Mongolians anyway). Just when I had decided to call it a night, I met Toia, a nice 30 year old with a very good body for her age, and a perfect attitude. I took her home wth me, and we had a very good time. Damage was 1000 RMB all night. Definitely a repeater, although she claimed she didn't know yet if she was going to stay in Beijing or go back.
She's a friend of the fake blonde with the punk hairdo (people who frequent M will know who I mean).the blond is referred to as Spikey, a special friend of our beloved Australian mate BBB. Toia or Tuja as I understood her is back? Large boobs and standing nipples? You are lucky she must just be back in town, has an interesting job now in UB. If she was the one. Oh and a big thanks on your pricing! There is a trend for asking more (1500) LT while in general overall looks and service seems declining. Something wrong there. So in my experience it is a good strategy to stick with the good service nice girls without attitude and the Mongolian magic still comes true!
And on the Chinese girl you met, avoid like Herpes. Several reports here on terrible service. M's is a place for Mongolian girls unless you want spend double what you pay for a night of passionate f***ing on playing dicegames or getting cheated by this shark I think called Angel. But each to his own!
Fa
The Tanuki
11-11-10, 12:49
the blond is referred to as Spikey, a special friend of our beloved Australian mate BBB. Toia or Tuja as I understood her is back? Large boobs and standing nipples? You are lucky she must just be back in town, has an interesting job now in UB. If she was the one.
I've met Tuya/Tuja/Whatever a few times and she always seemed rather snotty. I understand she mostly hangs out over at Vics. Hot babe anyhow. Spikey, aka Oggi, has more fake to her than just blond hair, but she can be ok if you get away from her ridiculous initial asking prices. :eek:
And on the Chinese girl you met, avoid like Herpes. Several reports here on terrible service. M's is a place for Mongolian girls unless you want spend double what you pay for a night of passionate f***ing on playing dicegames or getting cheated by this shark I think called Angel. But each to his own!
Fa
That girl almost caused a bar fight with my girl one night. She saw a brief opening and just walked up and started rubbing my cock. Once my girl saw that it nearly got nasty. Too aggressive for the M's environment, IMO.
Nothing like a little late-night drama... :p
The Tanuki
Charly 2144
11-11-10, 19:01
After reading your posts, Maggies is definitely on my agenda for my next (first) trip to Beijing. Thank you for all your advices. I still wonder how to recognize a mongolian girl from a Chinese girl. I would say they are taller, with sharper cheeks, maybe smaller eyes? Am I correct?
Thank you guys
The Tanuki
11-11-10, 23:17
After reading your posts, Maggies is definitely on my agenda for my next (first) trip to Beijing. Thank you for all your advices. I still wonder how to recognize a mongolian girl from a Chinese girl. I would say they are taller, with sharper cheeks, maybe smaller eyes? Am I correct?
Thank you guys
It's easy to recognize the Mongolians. They are riding yaks....
But once you get into Maggies, the Chinese girls are wearing a name tag and they officially work at the bar to get you to buy ladies drinks. The Mongolians do not have such name tags. If you are really concerned about making a false choice, chat with a Maggies girl for a little bit (and buy her one drink). She will be able to point out any Chinese girl in the place, which will be 1, at the most 2 out of the crowd of FL's.
TT
Hi All,
I'll be visiting Beijing next week and since I've never done any mongering there before, hoped some of you might be able to offer some advice. I'll only be there for 3 days and will be tied up with meetings most of the time so would ideally like to find a nice companion or 2 without spending too much time hunting. I've read through many of the posts here and it seems Maggies is the most popular pickup bar, but are there any other good options. I've read that there are quite a few Mongolian girls at Maggie's and that sounds interesting to me (no previous Mongolian experience and I appreciate diversity). Also, are there any good in-call services (such as Angel's in the classified thread) or is that a waste of time?
Also, any info. on the going rate(s)? I assume since its China, any initial number mentioned will be high and some amount of haggling is expected.
I've read about the recent crackdown in China, but not sure how things stand right now. Are things relatively back to normal?
Sorry if I'm asking things that have been covered in other posts, but I've scanned this thread and haven't yet found current information about all this. I'd appreciate any advice or information any of you may have.
Thanks in advance.
El Frances
11-12-10, 10:41
Hi All,
I'll be visiting Beijing next week and since I've never done any mongering there before, hoped some of you might be able to offer some advice. I'll only be there for 3 days and will be tied up with meetings most of the time so would ideally like to find a nice companion or 2 without spending too much time hunting. I've read through many of the posts here and it seems Maggies is the most popular pickup bar, but are there any other good options. I've read that there are quite a few Mongolian girls at Maggie's and that sounds interesting to me (no previous Mongolian experience and I appreciate diversity). Also, are there any good in-call services (such as Angel's in the classified thread) or is that a waste of time?
Also, any info. on the going rate(s)? I assume since its China, any initial number mentioned will be high and some amount of haggling is expected.
I've read about the recent crackdown in China, but not sure how things stand right now. Are things relatively back to normal?
Sorry if I'm asking things that have been covered in other posts, but I've scanned this thread and haven't yet found current information about all this. I'd appreciate any advice or information any of you may have.
Thanks in advance.
If you read this thread you will find some valuable information. I wrote a few posts about outcall services in Beijing (although I have never tried Angel). click on my name and you can get access to my previous posts.
Forbidden Kid wrote about 长虹桥 in passing. Out of curiosity, I researched a little and it turned out to be actually an area (internet search). I had not done any physical search yet as I have no idea as what to expect.
Anyone care to shed some light to this? Probably will be new location for everyone, remembering the roars that M's quality is declining and all.
The Tanuki
11-13-10, 02:19
Probably will be new location for everyone, remembering the roars that M's quality is declining and all.
The girls I know have been telling me that the guys are not showing up at Maggies, thus they have to explore other venues. Those are sometimes in Beijing, sometimes in HK or Singapore. The conundrum we face is that the girls won't be filling up Maggies until the business is there. And the business doesn't show up if the babes aren't there. It's not an issue for me, personally, as I have my companionship set up ahead of time. I'm there at Maggies for the music and the general fun (though it's nice if there is eye candy to ogle). But since I get paid in US dollars, this hobby is definitely more painful than it used to be. If the dorks at G20 don't cause world trade war, there may be hope~
TT
Forbidden Kid
11-13-10, 04:46
Forbidden Kid wrote about 长虹桥 in passing. Out of curiosity, I researched a little and it turned out to be actually an area (internet search). I had not done any physical search yet as I have no idea as what to expect.
Anyone care to shed some light to this? Probably will be new location for everyone, remembering the roars that M's quality is declining and all.
Changhong Qiao is a street with residential buildings on both sides. It is extremely close to sanlitun. How it works in a nut shell is: you get approached by a tout, you haggle a little about prices, he/she calls a number of which some girls of your price range will show up, you follow your desired girl either to their apartment or your hotel. Recently though, it seems LE has been working diligently to prevent any business. My safest bet if any one wants to try it is to do it with a cab driver.
FK
Loveasiangirls
11-13-10, 07:20
The girls I know have been telling me that the guys are not showing up at Maggies, thus they have to explore other venues.......
TT
For me the biggest negative with Maggies is that nothing happens before 1am. Not everybody is looking to get laid at 2am or 3am. Some of us need to get up in the morning. Even midnite would be more acceptable. I guess I should go to bed early and set my alarm clock for 2am.....
After the first two nights described in my previous reports I was desperately needed some sleep so on night 4 of my five nights in Beijing I opted for a full night of sleep from 22:00 until next early morning at 07:00; what a relief!
Mina has texted me late afternoon but I've told her that I needed to sleep and she understood that I was not in a position even to have a drink with her.
I finished my meetings and having a full night in front of me and a next morning that I could sleep until 10:00 I prepared myself for a long night. From the moment I ended my meetings I was really thinking continuously if I will spend the night with Mina or not. I've started to feel things for her and going to bed with her again was not appealing to me as the better option. In any case we agreed to meet for a drink first and then decide what we'll do.
We met at about 10:00 in a bar close to my hotel and we spend almost 2 hours talking over a bottle of wine. It was lovely time and Mina talked to me about many aspects of her life, her work in Beijing and her frequent travels to Mongolia. I also shared a number of personal issues with her and the night was staged well to end up in Mina's bed. But, I was hesitating. When she asked me if we will go back to her apartment I replied that I would like to have a drink at Magie's so at about midnight we were there. Imediatelly when we entered Magie's I show Denize leaving with a customer. A nice handsome guy at his early thirties; I was happy to see her with a nice guy (I mean maybe the guy was a horrible person but he was looking very nice :-p).
I took drinks for both of us and we sat in a corner (Magie's was almost full that night). After some minutes I decided that I've had to be clear with her and I told her that I'll not spend the night with her and if she is free to “hunt” for another customer. I think that she was not expecting this but she told me fine, let's finish that drink and then we can find another partner for tonight. I've told her that I was not interested on another partner that night, we finished our drinks and then we headed at different directions inside Magie's.
That was the last moment I saw Mina.
I headed in another corner of the bar and almost after 5 minutes another Mongolian girl (Rena) approached me. Mina has introduced her to me two nights ago and she immediately asked where Mina was. I told her that we've split for tonight and I explained to her that I was not in the mood to leave with company tonight. Rena is not particularly beautiful (the truth is that the first time I show her I though she was a lady-boy but Mina assured me that she is a woman) but she is a great parson to talk and hang around I suppose like a friend. The type of girl that somebody can fall in love :-p
She told me that at that night she was not also in good mood and that she will make a couple of tries to find a guy but if not she will go early home. We agreed that I'll be her “drink buddy” in the intermissions between her hunting for a “date”. She asked me about Mina, I told her that I like her very much and she replied to me that it is “obvious that you like her; the other night many girls were looking at the two of you and were saying that you should marry her”. I smiled and then she told me, “yes I know you can not marry her but since you like her give her love, give all of us love, we need it” and she smiled too, cheered me and left for her hunting.
At the opposite side of the bar a very attractive Mongolian was making eye contact. When Rena left she came to my side and we started to talk. Again I wanted to be clear and told her the I'll not leave with any company tonight. She told me “fair enough but we can have a drink together”. I said fine and I ordered drinks. Tina spoked perfect English and had an amazing vocabulary; she explained that she has spend 3 years in the US and this is why her English was so good. At a certain point we started to comment on the various guys we were looking around and we started to made a kind of “sociological observations” of mongers and their styles. And it was very fun. I'll not write the details here because I am not sure that the forum is interested on this kind of reports but maybe one day I post a separate report on this. In a nutshell it was extremely interesting to see all the different guys and their styles and the only thing I'll report here is about a guys that was almost “spinning” around the bar every 5 minutes, talking for a few seconds to every available girl. Tina was looking also for a companion, the guy was at his mid-thirties with an average to good appearance, not drunk, clean so I told to Tina “hit him”. She immediately replied “no way, he is a cheap Charlie and he is proposing 500 for 2 shots”. At this point she explained to me a bit the price system (her perspective of course). She told that 1500 for ST and 2500 for LT is the preferred price for the ladies but they will easily go down to 1000 for ST and maybe 1500 for LT or even 1000 for LT if they “like” the client or if the night is about to end. She told me that the 1000 is a kind of psychological limit and only a few girls will go for something less and under certain circumstances. She told me that she personally has never gone beyond 1000 and that it is only below average ladies or ones that desperately need the money that will go for 500. That was my first lesson on the price system from a Mongolian girl. Just to tel you the end of the story with the guy though: He left Magie's at about 03:30 in the morning with an ugly, fat, late thirties lady that I would never personally have taken even if I was desperate for a fuck. I understood that this is the way that these kind of ugly ladies can get a customer. I am pretty sure that he get her for 500 but I mean I hope that he agreed that he will be paid 500 :-p
It was about 01:30 in the morning the sociological observations with Tina were on their top and Rena joined us again. No luck tonight she said and we started a threesome of sociological discussion LOL! After some minutes Denize returned from her ST with a customer and joined us for a cigarette. At that point I sent an sms to Mina asking her were she is. She replies “I am really sorry, I left with a customer 5 minute ago”. Thanks customer you saved me from a broken heart :-)
The next 2 hours were full of drinks and chat and at 03:30 in the morning I decided to call the night. I just tried to find Denize to say a good buy and I see her leaving with another customer! This girl is really sexy! I left Magie's a bit past 03:30 and headed to my hotel.
Next morning at about 11:00 I received an sms from Mina who is asking if I have time for lunch before I leave. I really didn't have any time so I call her and I just say good bye over the phone. We both say that we'll meet again in my next visit to Beijing.
Guys, I've had a wonderful experience with the Mongolian girls. As I've told in my first report the names I used are not the real names of the girls and please do not ask for them; I'll not share. At the end of the day I am convinced that a best experience with a girl for one monger could be a disaster for another one and vice versa. For the senior members and the Beijing natives, we might meet the next time I'll be in Beijing and then you might see (if they will be still in Magie's) my Mongolian loves.
And guys, as Rena says: “Give them some love” I believe they deserve it.
Welcome to the Beijing forum Lifeingr - always good to see new posters.
Personally your reports are way too long and far too many details for my choice - but that is my personal opinion - much rather just see w.hores names, locations, prices and services agreed to - but others may well have a different opinion.
These 2 w.hores Tenize and Mina - when you found them in Maggies first night where were they sitting:
1. At the 2 tall tables directly in front of you as you enter Maggies door
OR
2. At the 2 tall tables to the LHS of Maggies as you enter door, walk past cloak room and entrance to toilets?
Keep up the good work Lifeingr - keep the reports coming.
In his origional post he said he changed the names. I think I know the same Mina you know, and his description does not match her personality. I was thinking he might be refering to our favorite Mongolian tag team, T & Z, but not sure.
I personally like reading all of the details. Keep up the good work Lifeingr!
Sammy
Welcome. I have to agree. Way to long on the report. I could not read it all. I found my self "skimming" for the Price, looks, location, and SEX words.
Have a blast!
DBH
Guys, many thanks to all of you for your welcoming messages. Sometimes my reports are way too long sometimes just informative. It happened that in Beijing my mongering experience was very sentimental so this is why the long reports.
For the names issues look at the part III of my report (at the end).
Just to answer BBB's question. The night I saw them they were sitting in the beginning at the bar in the left hand side as we enter Magie's then they moved to the one of the 2 tall tables directly in front of you as you enter Maggies door.
The Tanuki
11-14-10, 04:03
In a nutshell it was extremely interesting to see all the different guys and their styles and the only thing I'll report here is about a guys that was almost “spinning” around the bar every 5 minutes, talking for a few seconds to every available girl. Tina was looking also for a companion, the guy was at his mid-thirties with an average to good appearance, not drunk, clean so I told to Tina “hit him”. She immediately replied “no way, he is a cheap Charlie and he is proposing 500 for 2 shots”.
Just to tel you the end of the story with the guy though: He left Magie's at about 03:30 in the morning with an ugly, fat, late thirties lady that I would never personally have taken even if I was desperate for a fuck. I understood that this is the way that these kind of ugly ladies can get a customer. I am pretty sure that he get her for 500 but I mean I hope that he agreed that he will be paid 500 :-p
Hahaha sounds like Jesse James at work there! :p Maybe he had his beer goggles on by that time of day...
Guys, I've had a wonderful experience with the Mongolian girls. As I've told in my first report the names I used are not the real names of the girls and please do not ask for them; I'll not share. At the end of the day I am convinced that a best experience with a girl for one monger could be a disaster for another one and vice versa. For the senior members and the Beijing natives, we might meet the next time I'll be in Beijing and then you might see (if they will be still in Magie's) my Mongolian loves.
And guys, as Rena says: “Give them some love” I believe they deserve it.
Glad you had such a great time there. I agree totally that it's best not to use actual names in here or pass contacts around, unless the girl agrees to it ahead of time. In my experience the better you take care of the good ones, the better they make your visit. Damn, wish I wasn't so broke from the 2 trips there. All this makes me wanna go back again!
TT
JayHighFive
11-14-10, 19:23
Here is my mini report from my first visit to Beijing. I stayed at the Crowne Plaza Hotel on Winjfujing (spelling not correct). It was a nice hotel and girlfriend friendly. The hotel has a spa and barber shop. I checked it out of on the first night. There are girls in the spa on the top floor but none of them do extra service. I guess just a hand job. The BBS on the M level has a girl named Sally. She has worked there about 2 years she said. Nice cute girl. I called her to my room where we negotiated. Got her down to 1200 RMB total. Some of that goes to the house. I got here number so I would have to pay the house the next time. It doesn’t cost anything for her to come to your room to negotiate and if you can’t agree send her back no costs.
Out on the main street a few girls came up offering a massage and sex but I didn’t like any of them. If you hang out there long enough I am sure someone of your liking with come through. Most didn’t speak much if any English and wanted 500 RMB for one hour full service.
I went to the hard rock around 8pm. There were about 4 Chinese girls there asking for between 2000 – 3000 RMB. I didn’t like any of them so I didn’t bother to negotiate.
I hit Maggies around 12 midnight. I would say about 10 working girls total at that time. I was talking to one Russian girl and went to the bar and decided to leave with another Russian She went for 1000 RMB for the hour. Full service, BBBJ, DFK, the whole 9 yards. She was excellent just wish I left with the first one.
Overall not the best place I have been but something a world traveling monger has to check off.
Jay
Dbhappiness
11-14-10, 19:46
Here is my mini report from my first visit to Beijing. I stayed at the Crowne Plaza Hotel on Winjfujing (spelling not correct). It was a nice hotel and girlfriend friendly. The hotel has a spa and barber shop. I checked it out of on the first night. There are girls in the spa on the top floor but none of them do extra service. I guess just a hand job. The BBS on the M level has a girl named Sally. She has worked there about 2 years she said. Nice cute girl. I called her to my room where we negotiated. Got her down to 1200 RMB total. Some of that goes to the house. I got here number so I would have to pay the house the next time. It doesn't cost anything for her to come to your room to negotiate and if you can't agree send her back no costs.
Out on the main street a few girls came up offering a massage and sex but I didn't like any of them. If you hang out there long enough I am sure someone of your liking with come through. Most didn't speak much if any English and wanted 500 RMB for one hour full service.
I went to the hard rock around 8pm. There were about 4 Chinese girls there asking for between 2000 – 3000 RMB. I didn't like any of them so I didn't bother to negotiate.
I hit Maggies around 12 midnight. I would say about 10 working girls total at that time. I was talking to one Russian girl and went to the bar and decided to leave with another Russian She went for 1000 RMB for the hour. Full service, BBBJ, DFK, the whole 9 yards. She was excellent just wish I left with the first one.
Overall not the best place I have been but something a world traveling monger has to check off.
JayIs any Pussy worth ¥3000? My lord that's crazy.
Is any Pussy worth ¥3,000? My lord that's crazy.I know several of the Chinese girls that work the Hard Rock. I would never take them for ¥1,000, much less ¥3,000. They market their services to the tourist who does not know any better. They might get taken out once or twice a month at this price, but they way they see it, they can fu*k 6 times a month at ¥500 a pop, or one time a month for ¥3,000. They choose the ¥3,000 option, and from the number of years they have been in the business they seem to get by just fine.
In my opinion there is pussy in Beijing worth more (maybe not ¥3,000). For example, spending all night with a 19 year old Chinese girl who's looks can melt butter, and actually knows what she is doing in bed. Or perhaps a 23 year old Mongolian that is tall, thin, but with large natural breasts. He beauty is only rivaled by her fun, bubbly personality. Even a 26 year old Russian girl from Moscow who has the best body I have ever seen - curvy but rock hard. All of these girls take pride in the bodies, and work out at the gym every day. They know they have a limited "shelf life" and want to get as much out of this job while they still can. Because of this they are selective. Like the Hard Rock girls, they ask for more money (but not ¥3,000) knowing that it is better for them, and their customers, if they go out once or twice a week rather than every single night. How many times have you gotten that stunner home for less than ¥1,000, only to find that when you get down to business she is "well broken in"? Or worse, the stink from between her legs immediately turns you off? She is making money using a "low price" times "quantity", rather than "higher price" times "quality".
If I want I can take someone home for ¥500 every single night, and have an almost guaranteed average experience. I prefer to save my money and spend it on someone that I know will meet, and even exceed my expectations. This is one of the advantages of being a resident of Beijing – I have the ability to bide my time. Some will say that I am ruining the market, bringing the prices up for everyone. I would argue that some people purchase a Rolex watch when they could just as easily get a Timex. After all, the Timex will tell the time for a fraction of the cost of the Rolex. By purchasing the Rolex I am not causing the price of the Timex to increase - but I am ensuring a market for Rolex in China. If everyone insists on rock bottom prices than soon all of the premium talent will find their market elsewhere. The key is not to pay for the Rolex, only to find the inner workings are made by Timex.
Just like the watches at the Silk market, not every girl that asks for top dollar is always worth it. I can think of a couple of Mongolian girls that start off at ¥2,000+ at the beginning of the night, but that will quickly reduce their price as the night goes on (and the drunker they get). The key is being able to identify the girls that are truly worth the extra money. One tip is that the girl will not negotiate - sure, this can [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off, but at the same time if she hits you with a high price, and then quickly drops down then she is no better than the shop girl quoting you a high "tourist" price at the Silk Market. A high, non-negotiable price can sometimes indicate quality, but not always. A second tip is to keep away from the girls who drink like fish. Sure, she may have a night when she is drinking with her friends, but more often than not she will not plan to work that night. A girl who really cares about her body and her own well being will not get fall down drunk every night. No matter how fun it is to drink with the girls at Maggie's, getting a drunk girl back to your hotel room is never going to end in a stellar performance.
If you are a tourist that is spending a short time in Beijing your best bet is hooking up with one of the Beijing regulars. Even if we are not available (after all, we have lives outside ISG), you can hit the known mongering spots (The Pig, Hard Rock, Maggie’s, Hollywood, Chocolate) and strike up a conversation with the other guys there. If a guy is at one of these places he is either on the game, or really lost. You might stumble across a Beijing regular, or come across one of the many guys who travel to Beijing but do not post on the board. Everyone knows that "you get what you pay for", but sometimes the payment required is your time spent doing your own research. I do not go to Maggie's nearly as much as I once did, primarily because the scene starts so late. I do make it to Maggie's about once a month just to check out the new talent and collect phone numbers. I would happily pay someone ¥1,000 to do this for me, but there is no substitute for doing it yourself. A girl I think is worth the extra money you might not touch with a 10 foot pole, and the reverse could also be true. Get out there and check things out for yourself, and be sure to report back what you find! (By the way, this is directed to everyone in general, not dbhappiness. I know he is an active member of the south china threads)
Good luck, and happy hunting,
Sammy
For me the biggest negative with Maggie’s is that nothing happens before 1am. Not everybody is looking to get laid at 2am or 3am. Some of us need to get up in the morning. Even midnight would be more acceptable. I guess I should go to bed early and set my alarm clock for 2am.....I agree 100%, and I am always looking for a venue that gets started before midnight. The problem is that the Chinese Vice police typically work until midnight, and during certain times of the year they work as late as 1 am. It is for this reason that Maggie's and other similar venues do not get going until so late - just waiting out the cops.
I will often have "gatherings" where I will get girls and guys together for drinks or dinner early (usually around 9 pm). I can typically get 5 to 10 girls to come out, but then only 3 or 4 guys show up. Great for us, but not a very good potential market for the girls. We typically move the party around to different venues, so as not to attract attention. Next time I set something up I'll let you know. The more guys I can get to attend, the more girls will show up!
Sammy
FernandoAlonso
11-16-10, 09:49
Great report, know exactely how you feel. Anyhow good info on the pricing from the vendors view. As said before there is a trend now increase the price but not always the quality. In my opinion you can get perfect service still for 1000 LT and that is with the weaker dollar already more expensive for us but still acceptable. Chinese girls go for 100 to 350 an hour.
Fa
After the first two nights described in my previous reports I was desperately needed some sleep so on night 4 of my five nights in Beijing I opted for a full night of sleep from 22:00 until next early morning at 07:00; what a relief!
Mina has texted me late afternoon but I've told her that I needed to sleep and she understood that I was not in a position even to have a drink with her.
I finished my meetings and having a full night in front of me and a next morning that I could sleep until 10:00 I prepared myself for a long night. From the moment I ended my meetings I was really thinking continuously if I will spend the night with Mina or not. I've started to feel things for her and going to bed with her again was not appealing to me as the better option. In any case we agreed to meet for a drink first and then decide what we'll do.
We met at about 10:00 in a bar close to my hotel and we spend almost 2 hours talking over a bottle of wine. It was lovely time and Mina talked to me about many aspects of her life, her work in Beijing and her frequent travels to Mongolia. I also shared a number of personal issues with her and the night was staged well to end up in Mina's bed. But, I was hesitating. When she asked me if we will go back to her apartment I replied that I would like to have a drink at Magie's so at about midnight we were there. Imediatelly when we entered Magie's I show Denize leaving with a customer. A nice handsome guy at his early thirties; I was happy to see her with a nice guy (I mean maybe the guy was a horrible person but he was looking very nice).
I took drinks for both of us and we sat in a corner (Magie's was almost full that night). After some minutes I decided that I've had to be clear with her and I told her that I'll not spend the night with her and if she is free to "hunt" for another customer. I think that she was not expecting this but she told me fine, let's finish that drink and then we can find another partner for tonight. I've told her that I was not interested on another partner that night, we finished our drinks and then we headed at different directions inside Magie's.
That was the last moment I saw Mina.
I headed in another corner of the bar and almost after 5 minutes another Mongolian girl (Rena) approached me. Mina has introduced her to me two nights ago and she immediately asked where Mina was. I told her that we've split for tonight and I explained to her that I was not in the mood to leave with company tonight. Rena is not particularly beautiful (the truth is that the first time I show her I though she was a lady-boy but Mina assured me that she is a woman) but she is a great parson to talk and hang around I suppose like a friend. The type of girl that somebody can fall in love
She told me that at that night she was not also in good mood and that she will make a couple of tries to find a guy but if not she will go early home. We agreed that I'll be her "drink buddy" in the intermissions between her hunting for a "date". She asked me about Mina, I told her that I like her very much and she replied to me that it is "obvious that you like her; the other night many girls were looking at the two of you and were saying that you should marry her". I smiled and then she told me, "yes I know you can not marry her but since you like her give her love, give all of us love, we need it" and she smiled too, cheered me and left for her hunting.
At the opposite side of the bar a very attractive Mongolian was making eye contact. When Rena left she came to my side and we started to talk. Again I wanted to be clear and told her the I'll not leave with any company tonight. She told me "fair enough but we can have a drink together". I said fine and I ordered drinks. Tina spoked perfect English and had an amazing vocabulary; she explained that she has spend 3 years in the US and this is why her English was so good. At a certain point we started to comment on the various guys we were looking around and we started to made a kind of "sociological observations" of mongers and their styles. And it was very fun. I'll not write the details here because I am not sure that the forum is interested on this kind of reports but maybe one day I post a separate report on this. In a nutshell it was extremely interesting to see all the different guys and their styles and the only thing I'll report here is about a guys that was almost "spinning" around the bar every 5 minutes, talking for a few seconds to every available girl. Tina was looking also for a companion, the guy was at his mid-thirties with an average to good appearance, not drunk, clean so I told to Tina "hit him". She immediately replied "no way, he is a cheap Charlie and he is proposing 500 for 2 shots". At this point she explained to me a bit the price system (her perspective of course). She told that 1500 for ST and 2500 for LT is the preferred price for the ladies but they will easily go down to 1000 for ST and maybe 1500 for LT or even 1000 for LT if they "like" the client or if the night is about to end. She told me that the 1000 is a kind of psychological limit and only a few girls will go for something less and under certain circumstances. She told me that she personally has never gone beyond 1000 and that it is only below average ladies or ones that desperately need the money that will go for 500. That was my first lesson on the price system from a Mongolian girl. Just to tel you the end of the story with the guy though: He left Magie's at about 03:30 in the morning with an ugly, fat, late thirties lady that I would never personally have taken even if I was desperate for a fuck. I understood that this is the way that these kind of ugly ladies can get a customer. I am pretty sure that he get her for 500 but I mean I hope that he agreed that he will be paid 500
It was about 01:30 in the morning the sociological observations with Tina were on their top and Rena joined us again. No luck tonight she said and we started a threesome of sociological discussion LOL! After some minutes Denize returned from her ST with a customer and joined us for a cigarette. At that point I sent an sms to Mina asking her were she is. She replies "I am really sorry, I left with a customer 5 minute ago". Thanks customer you saved me from a broken heart
The next 2 hours were full of drinks and chat and at 03:30 in the morning I decided to call the night. I just tried to find Denize to say a good buy and I see her leaving with another customer! This girl is really sexy! I left Magie's a bit past 03:30 and headed to my hotel.
Next morning at about 11:00 I received an sms from Mina who is asking if I have time for lunch before I leave. I really didn't have any time so I call her and I just say good bye over the phone. We both say that we'll meet again in my next visit to Beijing.
Guys, I've had a wonderful experience with the Mongolian girls. As I've told in my first report the names I used are not the real names of the girls and please do not ask for them; I'll not share. At the end of the day I am convinced that a best experience with a girl for one monger could be a disaster for another one and vice versa. For the senior members and the Beijing natives, we might meet the next time I'll be in Beijing and then you might see (if they will be still in Magie's) my Mongolian loves.
And guys, as Rena says: "Give them some love" I believe they deserve it.
....I would argue that some people purchase a Rolex watch when they could just as easily get a Timex. After all, the Timex will tell the time for a fraction of the cost of the Rolex. By purchasing the Rolex I am not causing the price of the Timex to increase - but I am ensuring a market for Rolex in China. If everyone insists on rock bottom prices than soon all of the premium talent will find their market elsewhere. The key is not to pay for the Rolex, only to find the inner workings are made by Timex...................
Sammy
Wow, Sammy, I think this comparison hit spot on, on price VS quality for our common hobby.
Unfortunately, being chained with my domestic manager, and not being a Caucasian doesn't allow me easy access to girls at Maggies*, but hearing their reviews from ISG for so long tell me they are worth it at the "right" price.
*I got refused 2 times. And no offence, as a Chinese descendant, I tend to have bad impression on places that are "Dogs & Chinese not allowed".
For me, getting laid isn't a problem, and laying as much women as possible is not my goal (it was 10 yrs ago). If you think this is also what you are, maybe the following might be able of help, how to change a Timex in to a Rolex, well, maybe not, but a Tissot or TAG.
The easiest way is to get a regular. Both for WG and FWBs. The more we did it, the more we know what each other like. And if she did a good job, a tip is always included after the deed. Some that I find want to dig me like a gold mine, I just don't call them next time. Overtime, I have a list I can call when I need to, and am sure will get Rolex grade service and attitude.
As for FWB, its up to how you "train" them. Women can be crazily wild when you hit the right buttons.
As for negotiating, I believe the old saying "you get what you pay for". Do not negotiate for the lowest price, I doubt you will get a good time when she knows she is working for minimum wage, or being forced to accept your offer because business is bad. What I do is when I negotiate, I make it clear that I am not going to pay more than the average market price, however, if we get it on well, I would make it worth her while. I also find that, like any human being, if you treat them well, and with respect (imagine your subordinates), I am sure you will get much more in return. Unless you like to pay to degrade women or you meet a "female dog" (hahah, the words this board censors :P).
This attitude also helped me get more worth than I pay for. And whenever I get more, I match it with what I think it is worth. And you know what? I get more next time. Strange isn't it? :)
As for Sammy's offer of 1K. I would probably do the same to get numbers (that I do not have access to) that I can call at my "safe time" and to ensure my castle is in a harmonious state.
Happy hunting and safe paths.
Wow, Sammy, I think this comparison hit spot on, on price VS quality for our common hobby.
.. and not being a Caucasian doesn't allow me easy access to girls at Maggies*,
I never have any problem at all so far, whether with the management or with any of the girls. Probably because they saw me walk in with Sammy and for a couple months back, I turned up quite often for them to know I am not a Chinese.
I feel for you though. Not being able to access girls around when they are so many just lining up. Got to be torture.
v4l..
The Tanuki
11-17-10, 13:49
For me, getting laid isn't a problem, and laying as much women as possible is not my goal (it was 10 yrs ago).
And why not, may I ask? Medical research has shown that frequent ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer by a significant factor (sorry don't have the link to that handy at the moment). We're in Asia where there are literally millions of women hoping to help you out on that cancer reduction factor. I'm sure as hell going to take advantage of it! Plus it keeps me looking younger than my years, the ladies say... :p
As for Sammy's offer of 1K. I would probably do the same to get numbers (that I do not have access to) that I can call at my "safe time" and to ensure my castle is in a harmonious state.
Hmmm, I'm sensing a business plan here. Should I bill you for the girl's number I already provided today?? LOL
Enjoy those girls while you have them, my friend!
TT
And why not, may I ask?
TT
One of my dream when I was 8 was to fuck women of all places/races/language/etc. Thats not long after I discover my dad's pile of porn videotapes.
After the years, I haven't completed them yet, but I can say I am probably in the top percentile for the "men that got laid" section. Of course, still no where near the seniors here.
Well, during my journey to fulfill my dream. I found that most times, sex weren't that good with women I don't know (paid and free). I guess I am turning in to those snobbish "sophisticated" people that enjoys wine that I like to mock, but this is for women.
But thats me, there is nothing wrong with having sex with as much women as possible. I still chase tails nowadays, just to be sure I have a number to call when I want it. But, my selection seems to change that the women I would keep 10 yrs ago. Guess this is the sign of aging huh?
I now value women that are enthusiastic and willing to explore new things.
Different men, different taste. :)
i feel for you though. not being able to access girls around when they are so many just lining up. got to be torture.
v4l..
not really though, not saying it like it is sour grapes. things goes the same the other way, as a chinese descendant, knowing the language and culture, i get access to women (and other stuff) most guys here can't.
I saw decent feedback on Suzie Wong agency and decided to give a shot since I was in Beijing for a quick trip I stayed at China World and got the girl up to the room without too much trouble. Her name was La La.
She had a nice rack and was pretty friendly. We took a shower together and went for two pops. Everything was covered and multiple positions. She was pretty energetic and made all the right sounds. I was happy with the experience
We chatted a bit she wasn't pushing for more money like the outcall girls usually do. I agreed on rate and taxi fare with the agency beforehand and the money went down smoothly.
The Tanuki
11-18-10, 06:31
...Well, during my journey to fulfill my dream. I found that most times, sex weren't that good with women I don't know (paid and free). I guess I am turning in to those snobbish "sophisticated" people that enjoys wine that I like to mock, but this is for women.
But thats me, there is nothing wrong with having sex with as much women as possible. I still chase tails nowadays, just to be sure I have a number to call when I want it. But, my selection seems to change that the women I would keep 10 yrs ago. Guess this is the sign of aging huh?
I now value women that are enthusiastic and willing to explore new things.
Different men, different taste. :)
I definitely hear ya, bro. My little head tends to look at it both ways. It's much nicer to find someone to be comfortable with and to really enjoy the sex together. But then he sees something he wants and then....
Actually I was getting burnt out last summer and nearly walked away from the game completely. Then a couple trips to Beijing made me realize this is what keeps me young(ish). The difficult part now is to keep from going bankrupt. :eek:
TT
LOL, this is going to be our thread soon?
We need to stop this and start posting FRs!!!
Which I will do soon, in my future trips to Chengdu, Shi Jia Zhuang and Malaysia(KL). All in the next 3 weeks.
Had an interesting trip to China. I asked for help on several china forums but got very little help. I got only only two PM replies to my requests and one was the Tanuki. Thank you.
Maggies: wen there at Midnight on Monday. Place was pretty busy but not packed. Enjoyed the drinks, chatted with a few girls but did not partake. A regular monger (so he claims) sat next to me and monopolized my time. He was drunk and full of shit but I was polite enough not to tell him that. I dropped him once but he followed me to the second spot where I settled and I could not shake him. The girls knew him and did not want anything to do with him or supposedly his friends :-)
Luckily I went back another night. Bit quieter but I did not have much time. I talked a voluptuous Uzbeck girl with cute face, into giving me an HJ with light BJ in one of the booths. The table and my jack were used as cover. It was exciting to say the least.
I saw few really cute girls both nights and if I have time, this place would have had lot of potential.
This place is a block away from Maggies. The Russian/eastern European dancers on the stage are absolutely gorgeous. I must have misunderstood post on this forum from before but apparently, none of them are available for take out. The Shisha/hookah was potent and the drinks are strong, live band is all good. Luckily I went here before I went to Maggies. I would love to hear if anyone had scored a chick from this place.
-V
This place is a block away from Maggies. The Russian/eastern European dancers on the stage are absolutely gorgeous. I must have misunderstood post on this forum from before but apparently, none of them are available for take out. The Shisha/hookah was potent and the drinks are strong, live band is all good. Luckily I went here before I went to Maggies. I would love to hear if anyone had scored a chick from this place.
-V
To my knowledge the dancers are not available for take-out, but many of the women in the crowd are working. They all sit in groups, and will not approach you - you have to approach them.
Good Luck!
Sammy
I had been to Chocolate several times to know the place. My information and impression will be different from more experienced mongers as I am still quite new. I find that for someone that is Chinese or looks like Chinese they have difficulty going for the girls.
Even more that if the guy is young looking (assumed to be cheap charlie and broke automatically). There are some great ladies I know there that makes the difficulty on getting to know them worth the time however. Got to thank Sammy for first introducing me to several russian cuties that leads to the my current quite comfortable situation.
When are you going to make more party, Sammy? You are already being missed, with James that disappeared pretty much off the face of earth these days.
To my knowledge the dancers are not available for take-out, but many of the women in the crowd are working. They all sit in groups, and will not approach you - you have to approach them.
Good Luck!
Sammy
Thank you for the clarification. I left with the same impression but thanks for confirming. I did not have time to waste that night, so I went for the direct approach. I asked the female maître d' if the dancers are available for company. She responded, "absolutely not" she also suggested if I hung around for a while I might find some company among other visitors. I did not get what she meant at that time. Now I know. Retrospectively thinking, I am glad I left and went to maggie s as none of the "visitors" caught my eye.
The Tanuki
11-22-10, 12:05
Thank you for the clarification. I left with the same impression but thanks for confirming. I did not have time to waste that night, so I went for the direct approach. I asked the female maître d' if the dancers are available for company. She responded, "absolutely not" she also suggested if I hung around for a while I might find some company among other visitors. I did not get what she meant at that time. Now I know. Retrospectively thinking, I am glad I left and went to maggie s as none of the "visitors" caught my eye.
I went out there recently, on a Friday night around 11:30 and we stayed for a couple hours or so. It's probably a bit difficult to pick up WG's there, as has been noted they do not approach you. The music can be pretty damn loud which also inhibits conversation in general. But there were a lot of really awesome babes hanging out there. I've tried a couple ex-USSR girls in recent years and was not impressed with them, so unless I had a good recommendation I don't think I'd dabble. But gawd they do look good... :eek:
TT
Edward Tan
11-23-10, 11:20
Hi guys,
It's my first time going to Beijing and I wondering if they have massage parlors inside hotels? I went to one already in Shanghai and I was wondering if there's a similar thing in Beijing? Approximately, it costs 700 RMB.
Thanks in advance!
Edward Tan
11-23-10, 13:46
Are there any hotels in Beijing that have massage parlors similar to the ones in Shanghai? Sorry if I posted in the wrong forum if ever.
Thanks!
FernandoAlonso
11-23-10, 14:18
Had an interesting trip to China. I asked for help on several china forums but got very little help. I got only only two PM replies to my requests and one was the Tanuki. Thank you.
Tanuki is indeed a great guy but please if you ned something next time pm me, I did not actively see your requests sorry man!
Fa
FernandoAlonso
11-24-10, 09:29
Yes but only the Chinese style ones offer extras and even this has been greatly cut back due to the recent crisis. Foreign brand chains save your bucks!
Are there any hotels in Beijing that have massage parlors similar to the ones in Shanghai? Sorry if I posted in the wrong forum if ever.
Thanks!
What Just Happen
11-24-10, 14:14
Alright:
Hello, ISG. I've been a long-time lurker and devoted reader of your posts for a good many moons. But unfortunately, never a very active participant thanks to a long-term relationship that only recently ended. Ask me about it sometime if you ever want to hear a litany of bitter ex cliches.
Anyway, I've got a few years of gettin' it on to make up for, so, I'm planting my flag and making an intro post. I have RTFF backwards forewards and sideways, and hopefully won't be asking stupid questions. I've lived in Beijing for a goodly number of years, speak the language, and know my way around. I've put in appearances at the altar of St. M, taken numbers and names, and will be sampling the wares presently, just as soon as my god damn boss stops sending me to other continents on three days' notice, the rat bastard, and booking me in steerage.
The only actual contribution I have to make, other than recommending Kai on Friday & Saturday nights as a great place to score fag hags and Xiu as a place where those classy white-collar lasses with pretensions to wine couture and Continental literature aren't afraid to get drunk and let loose, is an experience at a particular saurnar (when in doubt, rhoticize!) on Qingrnianr Lu'er back in April or so. If you've ever been down that road, you know the one, and if you haven't, um, well, the blaring neon and parking lot full of Audis couldn't be any more obvious. The road's a whole two blocks long, and it's on the northern portion. We'll just leave it at that so the fine folks at the vice squad don't have keywords to search.
So what'd I get? An hour for 900, CBJ, CBFJ, pretty much covered everything, technique that. Existed, but didn't do much else, one pop, and that with someone I normally wouldn't have glanced at for free (I'm not really that cocky, just a cocky writer). She was nice, don't get me wrong, and I was freakin' drunk off my ass (which allowed the convoluted logic necessary for me to think it might be a good idea to go in there in the first place), and she didn't complain or cop 'tude, but yeah, a drunk 7. No line-up, facilities that, again, exist. Yeah, I got my nut, but baby oil is like 14 kuai a bottle.
There if you're close and need your oil changed and tires rotated.
Anyway, here's to hoping for better reports in the future. Thanks for everything, especially the legends (you know who you are). I've got a lot of work to do if I ever want to catch up.
Keshav 7228
11-25-10, 14:42
I am staying in Landmark Towers located in North Dongsanhuan Road, Chaoyang District during next week. Has anyone experienced in this hotel? Are there inhouse targets or should be relied on MPs? Is this hotel mongering friendly?
Thanks
Bad Boy Billy
11-25-10, 21:40
I am staying in Landmark Towers located in North Dongsanhuan Road, Chaoyang District during next week. Has anyone experienced in this hotel? Years ago when HRC was rocking I always stayed in Landmark.
Was very basic 4 star - but perfect access to huge number of w.hores.
Not only HRC but was also streetwalker central for strip between Lufthansa Centre and Sheraton Great Wall - also dozens of mamasans worked this strip over the years.
Are there inhouse targets or should be relied on MPs?Absolutely positively NOTHING inhouse
Is this hotel mongering friendly?Totally UN-GIRLFRIENDLY - towards end of HRC peak they posted guards on elevator entrance after 11pm - unless you knew how to enter through the Landmark Towers annexe you could not take girls to room.
IMHO you should avoid this hotel like the plague - same way you should avoid the 'pirahna' type Chinese bar girls in Maggies that Zhuren and Tanuki are so madly in love with.
Disclaimer: I have no personal experience at Landmark for 6 years or so - but doubt situation has changed.
Cure For Pain
11-25-10, 23:11
During the past 4-5 months, I often see a girl at Maggies, that appears to be Russian and that I remember seeing already 2-3 years ago at Maggies and other places: dark long hair - normal clothes (Jeans) - not a model-type, but definitely attractive - very active in approaching guys and starting conversations. I was often tempted to try her, but hesitated, as she appears a bit manipulative and doesn't seem to be in high demand (at least I have often seen her until late in the morning without any obvious catch).
I would appreciate if someone could share information on her (performance, price, repeat factor) - also through PM. Thanks!Hi,
It seems that this is Maria from Uzbekistan. She is down in Beijing for quite some years. Her english is poor and it looks like she has a speaking and hearing disability. She is a very lifely woman in the bar and it looks like she is talking to everybody. But I would say nobody really appreciates her presence.
I have had sex with her twice (say one year ago). Both times only ST (one hr). The first time was oke (as I remember a nice BJCIM) but the second time it was not good (no climax) since I kicked her out of the room. Reason: her attitude and mood changes in the room. So no real sex and no BJ and no climax. I got really annoyed with her acting all kinds of troubles and small pains. It would advice to avoid her, since she not mentally stable.
Spend your valuable time on another lady.
Mind Maggot
11-26-10, 17:01
Maggot was in Beijing from 21st to 24th Nov.
Sunday:
Headed to Pig at 9pm, its the sole reason why Maggot stays at Lido. A few WGs, quality wasn’t good enough to separate Maggot from his money. Off to Maggies at 11pm. With plenty to do the next morning, Maggot wasn’t really in the mood to take any WG back to the hotel. And there were perhaps just two or three Northern Sisters, some Chinese, one certain Uzbek, and a few others. At around midnight the Northern Sisters started to pour in. Noticed a couple of gentlemen who seemed to be well known to literally every Mongolian, must be two of those seniors from Beijing thread. And just when Maggot was about to leave right after midnight, a Chinese WG approached. Maggot always avoids Chinese WGs in Maggies, but she was kind of cute. Said directly she would be available for ¥1000 ST. Well, Maggot broke his rule and took her back to the hotel. Not a bad experience.
Monday:
Again at pig, again at 9pm. Three Mongolians and a few Chinese WG. Pig is certainly getting better, but not quite the old days. One Mongolian was decent enough to tempt Maggot. A min into the initial eye contact, she was sitting next to Maggot, and a few mins later she was asking if Maggot would take her upstairs. Maggot wanted ST only and she asked for ¥1000, countered with ¥700 and out of the Pig in no time. That was a nice starter for the full course later. With no more early morning engagements, arrived at Maggies at 12:10am. Not packed, but girls outnumbered guys. One known Mongolian introduced her friend, she was one of those better looking ones, but with very low profile. When Maggot asked how much, she said ¥1200 for LT! Stunned by the quote, but not losing his head, Maggot had the guts to pronounce ¥1000 and she said OK! Straight to the taxi! Typical Mongolian experience, something Maggot always cherishes.
Tuesday:
Same Pig, same time, another Mongolian for ST, just ¥600 this time. Back to Maggies at midnight. Kind of crowded for Tuesday night. Noticed those two gentlemen from Sunday night along with two more gentlemen who also seemed to be well known among Mongolians. One of them was really busy talking to the girls until 3:30 am when Maggot left, this time with another Mongolian introduced by the girl from the previous night. But the rate wasn’t bargain anymore, ¥1500 LT this time.
Maggot is already missing Beijing and cant wait to go back there. Not sure why things still don’t start at Maggies until midnight, cause apparently Beijing is now free from crackdowns. Maggot noticed at least 4 BBS from the taxi, even in the daytime, and that’s all within Chaoyang area.
It seems that this is Maria from Uzbekistan. She is down in Beijing for quite some years. Her english is poor and it looks like she has a speaking and hearing disability. She is a very lifely woman in the bar and it looks like she is talking to everybody. But I would say nobody really appreciates her presence.
I have had sex with her twice (say one year ago). Both times only ST (one hr). The first time was oke (as I remember a nice BJCIM) but the second time it was not good (no climax) since I kicked her out of the room. Reason: her attitude and mood changes in the room. So no real sex and no BJ and no climax. I got really annoyed with her acting all kinds of troubles and small pains. It would advice to avoid her, since she not mentally stable. Thanks a lot for your feedback - though I am still not 100% convinced that it is really her. Sammy also thought it is Maria - but the girl that I refer to does not have a large ass. She is rather slim or at least normal built and usually wears Jeans or normal clothes with no or little make-up (which suits her well in my eyes). From passing by, I noticed some light pockmarks on her face. I would be very surprised if she had a hearing or speaking disorder or if her English is bad, as she seems extremely communicative. During the times of the pre-Olympic clampdown, I remember seeing her a few times in the Swing Bar with male company, which however never stopped her from eye-flirting with me.
Well I should probably just approach her ... and if she really turns out to be Maria, then I will know that I should better stay away. Funny though ... I always love to watch her, but sense at the same time that there is something wrong about her.
Thanks a lot for your feedback - though I am still not 100% convinced that it is really her. Sammy also thought it is Maria - but the girl that I refer to does not have a large ass. She is rather slim or at least normal built and usually wears Jeans or normal clothes with no or little make-up (which suits her well in my eyes). From passing by, I noticed some light pockmarks on her face. I would be very surprised if she had a hearing or speaking disorder or if her English is bad, as she seems extremely communicative. During the times of the pre-Olympic clampdown, I remember seeing her a few times in the Swing Bar with male company, which however never stopped her from eye-flirting with me.
Well I should probably just approach her ... and if she really turns out to be Maria, then I will know that I should better stay away. Funny though ... I always love to watch her, but sense at the same time that there is something wrong about her.
If she is slim, she is NOT Maria from Uzbekistan. The girl that gave me HJ under the table is Maria from Uzbeckistan (unless there are two of them) she is more on the plump side. She spoke pretty good english.
Got to thank SammyT for providing excellent fun time yesterday. You always disappear so fast before I could say goodbye. Wonder where you were holed up.
Wonder if there is more for Christmas.
The Tanuki
11-28-10, 13:53
IMHO you should avoid this hotel like the plague - same way you should avoid the 'pirahna' type Chinese bar girls in Maggies that Zhuren and Tanuki are so madly in love with.
But why??? They promise me all kinds of things, and it's only 2 or 3 more drinks until I get it... Haha. But I "can" say that I did get a phone number from one of them last time. And that also caused some grief from my Mongolian (see more on this below)... :eek:
Tanuki is indeed a great guy but please if you ned something next time pm me, I did not actively see your requests sorry man!
Fa
Um, well, my Mongolian tells me that all men are bastards and thus I fall into that category. I suppose she has a point, since I'm far from being a single unattached type of guy. There's a bit of hypocrisy on both sides I suspect.
TT
Hi to all the Beijing veterans,
I will be making a very short visit to Beijing this week for the first time and will be staying at the Marriott at Dongcheng District. Does anyone know if this is girl-friendly and near the hotspots mentioned on the forum?
Am still at the RTF stage (for a couple of days already) but meanwhile would be glad (and grateful) to meet up with any senior mongers and buy you a drink at your favorite bar. Please feel free to PM me and of course any advice is always welcome.
Pegasus
FernandoAlonso
11-30-10, 11:03
Um, well, my Mongolian tells me that all men are bastards and thus I fall into that category. I suppose she has a point, since I'm far from being a single unattached type of guy. There's a bit of hypocrisy on both sides I suspect.
TTShe of all people must know! Why do I never get the piranhas phone numbers? Easy said I never spend money on average Chinese girls to drink with them, which is free for more beautiful Chinese girls when you can have the night of your life with the right Northern beauty, and believe me I of all know what I am talking about!
Fa
Keshav 7228
11-30-10, 13:51
Scrolled through the Beijing forum & ended up having a fantastic 2 hours.
Thanks to reports of El Frances. I tried Maria. Though the blog said 500 RMB all inclusive for 1 shot, the lady on the other side was trying to extract more but managed to convince her for 500 RMB. I had explained my requirements & also told her that the girl would be sent back if I don't like her. She pretended of not understanding my what I was saying but somehow I was sure she got the message.
The babe landed in ~50 mins without any hassles, directly into my room!! Not a great face, but had right sized assets.
There was some let down as she refused to do BBBJ citing some wound in her mouth, refused anal (my favorite) & hardly understood English.
For the 2nd round, negotiated to 720 RMB, paid additional 80 RMB as tips.
She was great in CBJ, CG & Doggy as well.
Looks: 6/10
Attitude: 8/10
Satisfaction: 10/10
Will I repeat? Of course yes.
Snaps in photo section.
I went out on stroll in the evening & another woman approached me on the road quoting 600 RMB. Though I was tempted, did not choose to try. On my way back saw LE vehicle standing exactly in the entrance of my hotel! I thanked myself for not getting tempted again!
Sebastian My
12-01-10, 23:20
I had been to Chocolate several times to know the place. My information and impression will be different from more experienced mongers as I am still quite new. I find that for someone that is Chinese or looks like Chinese they have difficulty going for the girls.
Even more that if the guy is young looking (assumed to be cheap charlie and broke automatically). There are some great ladies I know there that makes the difficulty on getting to know them worth the time however. Got to thank Sammy for first introducing me to several russian cuties that leads to the my current quite comfortable situation.
When are you going to make more party, Sammy? You are already being missed, with James that disappeared pretty much off the face of earth these days.
While I agree this venue is not the ideal place for chinese chaps to meet russian(sic) friends, it should not be difficult. They all hang around the same two bars and the seats next to the bar. They certainly don't look friendly, but should be approacable. HOWEVER whenever there is a crack down they will be very suspicious of chinese men. I have often seen, what I am sure are, chinese undercover police wandering around - normally before midnight. My advise is to go their with western friend and make sure she see's you are with a laowai - or only approach your prospective deep and meaningful relationship after midnight.
Das Vidania Tovarich
Sebastian My
12-01-10, 23:30
One of my dream when I was 8 was to fuck women of all places/races/language/etc. Thats not long after I discover my dad's pile of porn videotapes.
Well, during my journey to fulfill my dream. I found that most times, sex weren't that good with women I don't know (paid and free). I guess I am turning in to those snobbish "sophisticated" people that enjoys wine that I like to mock, but this is for women.
But thats me, there is nothing wrong with having sex with as much women as possible. I still chase tails nowadays, just to be sure I have a number to call when I want it. But, my selection seems to change that the women I would keep 10 yrs ago. Guess this is the sign of aging huh?
I now value women that are enthusiastic and willing to explore new things.
Different men, different taste. :)
At age 8 ? Good Lord. Anyway you do bring up a good point, when I use to work in London I always found it amusing many of my customers and fellow workers had no ability to select the better wines during our wine testing customer events (sadly, these are no longer allowed). The chaps who could pick the good wines were those who were really interested in wine. (I don't mean the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-pots, those guys had NO ability to select the good wine as they no longer had any ability to taste, neither did they have any self control). I suspect its the same with women, if you spend a lot of time on the subject and your are really enthusiastic you quicky develop a cultivated taste. Its the main reason I don't go for the really young providers any more, they look great but offer very poor quality service. Always go for attitude, skill and looks - in that order, and if you are getting a good experience always be generious. (If the experience is otherwise, be cheap) Anyway - enjoy yourself as you pursue your hobby - but Good Lord, age 8 - unless you are only 16 you should be an expert by now.
P.S.
Wine tasters normally lose their teeth after 10-20 years in the game, because of the acid in the wine - hope the same don't happen to us mongers.
The Tanuki
12-02-10, 02:22
... Its the main reason I don't go for the really young providers any more, they look great but offer very poor quality service. Always go for attitude, skill and looks - in that order, and if you are getting a good experience always be generious. (If the experience is otherwise, be cheap)
My sentiments exactly. Ever read an article about women being in their sexual prime at 22? I haven't seen one.
P.S.
Wine tasters normally lose their teeth after 10-20 years in the game, because of the acid in the wine - hope the same don't happen to us mongers.
I've been at this for over 35 years, man. It just gets better as you learn to refine what you want, and generally as you get older you can more readily afford that (or at least travel to where you can afford it...). :)
The Tanuki
Call Me Sunny
12-02-10, 08:20
Hi. My name sunny, I just come to beijing to learn Chinese. I study in university near wudaogou (I think most of you know the place)
I just want to ask, is there any barber shop that recommended near wudaogou? Or maybe another fun place except KTV, because I don't like KTV I think the girl in KTV will cost you more than usual.
Sometime I go to propaganda but I can't bring the girl to my room because I stay in university dormitory that not allowed to bring strangger home after 11. IMHO its easier to get girl in propaganda in Wednesday.
I am coming to Beijing next Wednesday night. I have approximately 1 hour of work to do over the following three days. I'm well-versed in the ways of the German FKK; but am a babe in the woods in Chinese terms.
Any of you lads have a hotel recommendation or want to put a couple drinks on my expense account before heading out on the town? Holler at will.
Keshav 7228
12-04-10, 07:21
I SMS'd Angel late in the night, 22.30 hrs. After negotiations (all on SMS), we agreed on 1000 RMB for the full night till 8 AM. I gave my requirements & this girl too arrived directly into my room according to what I had requested though she had a little difficulty passing through the hotel staff as it was half past midnight.
She gave a memorable BBBJ . Here was the complete disaster. I put my dick into her pussy & I couldn't feel being inside. I felt being inside a big hole!! Though I managed to come, I felt that I am wasting money on her for the whole night. Hit on some thought & sent her away by paying 500 RMB + taxi.
Looks: 8/10
GFE: 9/10
Sex: 4/10
Overall: 5/10
Repeat: Not with this girl, maybe will try someone else from Angel on another day.
Questions to experienced mongers.
1. What words should I use to ask the provider that I need tight pussy?
2. Do Chinese girls agree for anal sex? If yes, what should I ask for? I failed in both my attempts.
Hi guys, Thursday raid at the mong embassy, true or false? result?
Hi guys,
Sorry in advance since this is not a review, only an observation of an incident. I'm not a newbie but usually contribute to the Hong Kong site. Anyway, I'm here in Beijing and was looking for some action not via St. M.
Looked through Craigslist and was surprised that someone (Mona) was advertising herself as thai (may or may not be true). Called her to see if she was really thai and tried to negotiate (everyone kows how overpriced they are in this site). Got down to 800 and asked some questions about services such as BJ and CIM. Apparently, I offended her by asking her these questions and accussed me of not being a gentleman. And she abruptly hung up.
Wow. I was struck with the irony of it all. I guess either she is naive about the services she may or may not provide or she was a bit dodgy. I guess cim is a rather sensitive issue even for w. Hores! Suffice it to say, decided she was too much of a hassle to call back.
from what i heard through grapevine, it was not raid, but just a visit to the management. enough to send the girls bolting home for the night however.
hi guys, thursday raid at the mong embassy, true or false? result?
Hello, to all,
I just arrived in Beijing from a long trip. I searched the RTFF for Barbershops and massage, but that is actually not what I wanted or difficult to find for me since I am not familiar with Bejing and speak NO Chinese at all.
I live and work in the Philippines and surely know my way around, but here I am bit lost.
Walked down to the beauty parlour. Just 2 guys showing me the pool (maybe to early 9 am). No girls.
I stay in a hotel somewhere in Jiao Dao Khou Street (big street) and would like to have a nice massage with some extras. I am not in the mood to take a girl into my hotel room, since I have my GF in the Phils.
All I want is a massage, or maybe walk into a hotel and have a massage there. Or a massage in a BBS, but from what I read you need to speak Mandarin, which I don't.
In short. I want a nice massage, some extra and then crush the sheets, cause tomorrow I will go to HK and then back to the Phils.
Yes I know, RTFF, but I did and under massage nothing comes up.
So if any guy can give directions from the place I stay, would be great. If you guys ever come to the Phils and you really lost I can be a help as well, but here in Beijing I am really lost.
Any help appreciated.
Blink
The Tanuki
12-10-10, 05:06
All I want is a massage, or maybe walk into a hotel and have a massage there. Or a massage in a BBS, but from what I read you need to speak Mandarin, which I don't.
In short. I want a nice massage, some extra and then crush the sheets, cause tomorrow I will go to HK and then back to the Phils.
BlinkMany of the 5-star hotels have massage inside, and a lot of them have girls to send to your room. Not the cheapest option, and the HE initial expectations run high (At the Kerry last time, the girls would start negotiating at 2000!). You can get that knocked down but not sure how far. Otherwise there's CL and places listed in the forum from time to time such as Lily. I can't vouch for any of those "massage" quality as they're more for FS it sounds.
Good luck.
TT
Anonymous All
12-10-10, 17:43
Should have known that Friday evenings would be prime time for outcalls. Called up Angel about 9:30pm and she was actually pretty straight forward about her better and younger ones being already reserved for LT overnight. Out of curiosity I asked how much for LT and she mentioned 2k starting from 8pm. 1.2k from 11pm to 7am. She asked if a more mature one would be acceptable but promised good service, so I took up the offer. Qi Qi showed up about 30-40 minutes later. Probably in the upper half of 20's, decent looking and nice body, except sagging boobs. Got down to the deed quickly. BBBJ was good. Took my time with DATY and she says she came, not sure. Put in a finger from time to time and pussy felt kind of loose. Started with mish and she was 'encouraging' me to finish up with some fake moans and not too subtle hints. Told her walls are too thin to stop the fake moaning and dropped not too subtle hints about not rushing me. She got the hint and was rather cooperative the rest of the way. She washed up and left pretty quickly afterwards as she had received several more SMS's, likely with details for her next assignment. Overall damage 600 RMB including taxi. Probably will not repeat with Qi Qi but curious about better quality ones that Angel mentioned, maybe next time in town but need to remember to reserve early!
Hi call me sunny,
I am in the same situation than you.
My son is studying at the blcu and picked up some girls in propaganda, vix and mix.
After some days, he brought the girl in single room before the cerfew of 11pm.
But that's not for my age!
So I tried the 2 massages / spa located at the hotel xijiao where I stay when in beijing.
No possibilities to get HJ.
So I walked all around wudaokou to find barber shop but they looked all legit.
I don't want to enter in the KTV or massage place because I don't know one word in Chinese!
So if you find interresting places, it would be great if you coud give me some indication.
Private message is also ok.
Thanks in advance
My son is studying at the blcu and picked up some girls in propaganda, vix and mix.
Val. Is this your dad? Maybe you need to show him the ropes!
Chinese Bomber
12-13-10, 08:43
While I agree this venue is not the ideal place for Chinese chaps to meet Russian (sic) friends, it should not be difficult. They all hang around the same two bars and the seats next to the bar. They certainly don't look friendly, but should be approacable. HOWEVER whenever there is a crack down they will be very suspicious of Chinese men. I have often seen, what I am sure are, Chinese undercover police wandering around. Normally before midnight. My advise is to go their with western friend and make sure she see's you are with a laowai. Or only approach your prospective deep and meaningful relationship after midnight.Can you give me the address of this place. I'm an american born Chinese, so I think I shouldn't have any prob there.
Chinese Bomber
12-13-10, 08:58
I saw decent feedback on Suzie Wong agency and decided to give a shot since I was in Beijing for a quick trip I stayed at China World and got the girl up to the room without too much trouble. Her name was La La.
She had a nice rack and was pretty friendly. We took a shower together and went for two pops. Everything was covered and multiple positions. She was pretty energetic and made all the right sounds. I was happy with the experience.
We chatted a bit she wasn't pushing for more money like the outcall girls usually do. I agreed on rate and taxi fare with the agency beforehand and the money went down smoothly. I heard the place is very pricy, how much did you pay for the "experience"?
Val. Is this your dad? Maybe you need to show him the ropes!Nice one. Unfortunately I make it a policy to not do any mongering within ten kilo of where I live.
Hi guys,
Now that I am actually in Beijing I am so happy that I live and work in the Philippines. Here its f. Ckn cold, none speaks any English and from what I heard and read about the nightlife here in Beijing its kinda like the weather, means pure business and cold.
Okay okay, I haven't been to the Maggies yet, but from what I heard its a overpriced meeting point for mature (or should I say old LOL) hookers who either couldn't find any client in those overpriced KTV bar places or Sauna places and end up here to look for a desperate guy with a big wallet hahahaha.
Ok you guys can flame me now, but I guess nightlife sucks.
Ok, I also haven't been in those BBS. I read reports from a guy (Andreas?) who bikes in Beijing, speaks Mandarin and visit those shops frequently. Well, I don't speak any Chinese at all and you won't get me on any bike now, cause its freezin cold anyway.
I might go to Maggies tonight, I found somebody who can write me the adress in Chinese. Hopefully I find a abrdiver who at least can READ Chinese, because last time I had one who even couldn't find the adress of my stay here, even it was written in Chinese. So lets see.
Maybe I will also try a BBS here, but to be frank, the cold weather kills all the mood in me. I don't speak Chinese so should I just show the middle finger to make understand that I won't to f. Ck? Hahahaha, guess not. I am an expat from the Philippines and I have been all over Asia, except China, japan and korea. They all in the Philippines anyway and now I know why, cause their nightlife SUCKS.
I hope its better in the south of China, but I won't go there. I still here for a week, cause I had delay my travel plans back home (Philippines) Next week I will be sitting in a nice bar in Angeles city, sipping my San Miguel light and think about all you guys who pay overpriced fantasy rates to Chinese hookers, or drink tsin hao beer (yuck) for 30 RMB in a club, while I have a cute wetress on my lap and having more fun and paying less.
So, it migh be different in the summer, but I heard that the summer is hot, really hot while summer in the Phils is hot as well, but you have aircon all over the place and some rain in between to cool you off.
So if anybody is out there for a beer in Maggies to convince me that there is more to do and see in Beijing I am in.
As of now I could only say, welcome to the Phils, visit me there, have a Beer on me and I give you a tour LOL.
Blink over and out brrrrrrrrr.
The Tanuki
12-14-10, 12:30
Hi guys,
Now that I am actually in Beijing I am so happy that I live and work in the Philippines. Here its f. Ckn cold, none speaks any English and from what I heard and read about the nightlife here in Beijing its kinda like the weather, means pure business and cold.
Okay okay, I haven't been to the Maggies yet, but from what I heard its a overpriced meeting point for mature (or should I say old LOL) hookers who either couldn't find any client in those overpriced KTV bar places or Sauna places and end up here to look for a desperate guy with a big wallet hahahaha.
Ok you guys can flame me now, but I guess nightlife sucks.
I certainly have no interest in debating the quality of nightlife between Beijing and AC. However, if I could suggest that you go out and try some things, you might find that China's capital is not so dreary as you imagine. Yes, things will be more expensive in Beijing. Some folks don't speak English. It's cold. So what? No reason to let small details like that get in the way of some fun. You have an opportunity in front of you. Up to you whether you engage that or sit in the hotel feeling pissed off.
Just sayin.
TT
Hi TT,
I am not pissed. I have 2 TB movies and music with me aside that I have some work to do. Next week I am back in the Philippines. No need to be unhappy. I am also member now in the Beijing costa cafe club. That is really something, right guys?
I am just saying if you be in Beijing fpr P4P and nothing else then its not a good time now. Its the same as guys fly into moscow and brag out that there are so many pretty girls. Yes there are, but prices starting at 400- Euro (please correct me if I am wrong guys) and with that I would give it a miss. I would rather stay then in Germany and bang a chick near the train station in Frankfurt for 30 to 50- Euro. Just business, in and out LOL and then drive home and watch TV. Hahahaha.
Naaa, I am not pissed, but I would be if I be in Beijing just for the one thing at this time of the year.
Yes I will visit some places, just to get the idea and have it seen by myself.
I did the tour back to the Phils with stops in Russia and Beijing, just because I have never been there. And now I know why.
Happy freezing in Beijing.
Blink
Starchild2012
12-14-10, 14:10
Hi guys,
Now that I am actually in Beijing I am so happy that I live and work in the Philippines. Here its f. Ckn cold, none speaks any English and from what I heard and read about the nightlife here in Beijing its kinda like the weather, means pure business and cold.
Okay okay, I haven't been to the Maggies yet, but from what I heard its a overpriced meeting point for mature (or should I say old LOL) hookers who either couldn't find any client in those overpriced KTV bar places or Sauna places and end up here to look for a desperate guy with a big wallet hahahaha.
Ok you guys can flame me now, but I guess nightlife sucks.
Ok, I also haven't been in those BBS. I read reports from a guy (Andreas?) who bikes in Beijing, speaks Mandarin and visit those shops frequently. Well, I don't speak any Chinese at all and you won't get me on any bike now, cause its freezin cold anyway.
I might go to Maggies tonight, I found somebody who can write me the adress in Chinese. Hopefully I find a abrdiver who at least can READ Chinese, because last time I had one who even couldn't find the adress of my stay here, even it was written in Chinese. So lets see.
Maybe I will also try a BBS here, but to be frank, the cold weather kills all the mood in me. I don't speak Chinese so should I just show the middle finger to make understand that I won't to f. Ck? Hahahaha, guess not. I am an expat from the Philippines and I have been all over Asia, except China, japan and korea. They all in the Philippines anyway and now I know why, cause their nightlife SUCKS.
I hope its better in the south of China, but I won't go there. I still here for a week, cause I had delay my travel plans back home (Philippines) Next week I will be sitting in a nice bar in Angeles city, sipping my San Miguel light and think about all you guys who pay overpriced fantasy rates to Chinese hookers, or drink tsin hao beer (yuck) for 30 RMB in a club, while I have a cute wetress on my lap and having more fun and paying less.
So, it migh be different in the summer, but I heard that the summer is hot, really hot while summer in the Phils is hot as well, but you have aircon all over the place and some rain in between to cool you off.
So if anybody is out there for a beer in Maggies to convince me that there is more to do and see in Beijing I am in.
As of now I could only say, welcome to the Phils, visit me there, have a Beer on me and I give you a tour LOL.
Blink over and out brrrrrrrrr. Shhhh. Lets just keep it a secret. Who wants to go to a third world country and enjoy. Its filthy, food is bad, corruption, everyone speaks english. How boring, no cultural value, no great wall, no historical stuff etc etc. We should promote it that way. So that we have all pussy for ourself's. How so selfish of us.
Philippines is one of the best kept secret on the entire planet. If one has the money. Look no further. I hate big and glamorous cities for this reason. Its all talk and good to read in cover magazine's. But the reality is different. From Europe to Asia to America. All big and glamorous cities that make it on the top ten list of this and that. Should be avoided in order for real enjoyment. Except for FKK in germany that is different.
The real enjoyment that a man wants. Is hidden in corners of the worlds that needs to be explored. You are right. Guys from Japan, Korea and now lots of Chinese come to Philippines for precisely this reason. I can understand your feeling. It sucks if you are in a big city and alone with no one to share company with. I been there for 12 years until I found out PH.
@starchild. Yes.
Ok something to report here while I am there. I talked to an English expat he told me Chinese food is cheap, western food is expensive. In Phils everything is cheap. Dam I shouldn't mentioned that one again.
The weather in Beijign now is cold, sunny days but cold nights and when the icy wind blows you don't want to go anywhere, just make sure you are in some room with a heating system.
Ah yes I can recomand costa cafe, their staff speaks English.
The average guy here in Beijing makes 1000 RMB a month, that works for guys or girls who work in fastfood chains or just in the mall, which means you can have a happy meal every day in Macdo but you need to sleep outside, cause thats it what you can get for 1000 RMB in a month.
So I wonder how they do it?
Ok my next report will be an update about Maggies. The place where you can find that special someone LOL. Maybe the only place in here. I looked up the map and its near Rithan park near some other meeting points for P4P including a place like "choclate"? Does that stand for anal? LOL.
The desricption says a place for Chinese and Russian. Maybe I should bring my own little red flag and wave around.
Well, I guess that is sure going to be something. 6 days to go then I am back. Dam shouldn't mentioned that again.
Blink
Hello, all, I will be in Beijing Thu-Sun and would like some assistance in where to go.
I read back about two months in the thread and it seems Maggie's is the place to go? But one needs to go there late it seems. Would rather find someone earlyish to spend some more time with. And to make outcalls I read about some Suzy and Lily? But that there may be fake ones around?
How would I make sure I call the right one?
If you call to get some girl (s) to the room you can send them back if you they are not what you "ordered"?
I am a beginner at this so please excuse stupid questions and any tips would be appreciated.
What I am looking for is a bit of GFE to make me feel more at ease and I would like to meet some beautiful (to me) Chinese / mongolian girls. For me that means quite slim and firm. Age is not the most important, more the looks. Some English is good.
I will be sightseeing in the daytime but am maybe not too inclined to pay for that time but then again would not mind to bring some nice girl with me for company.
Also, can someone recommend a good hotel where I can bring a girl without problems? Maybe close to this Maggie's place? Not too fancy, am there on my own money. Like 700-800MB max. Should be enough? New in town so I do not know which areas are good to stay in to be close to sights and nightlife.
I just got me a subscription in case someone feels like dropping a PM. Am not a bad looking tall blondish Scandinavian so I should not scare the girls off too quick.
Thanks beforehand,
S
Loveasiangirls
12-15-10, 03:46
@starchild. Yes.
Ok something to report here while I am there. I talked to an English expat he told me Chinese food is cheap, western food is expensive. In Phils everything is cheap. Dam I shouldn't mentioned that one again.
The weather in Beijign now is cold, sunny days but cold nights and when the icy wind blows you don't want to go anywhere, just make sure you are in some room with a heating system.
Ah yes I can recomand costa cafe, their staff speaks English.
The average guy here in Beijing makes 1000 RMB a month, that works for guys or girls who work in fastfood chains or just in the mall, which means you can have a happy meal every day in Macdo but you need to sleep outside, cause thats it what you can get for 1000 RMB in a month.
So I wonder how they do it?
Ok my next report will be an update about Maggies. The place where you can find that special someone LOL. Maybe the only place in here. I looked up the map and its near Rithan park near some other meeting points for P4P including a place like "choclate"? Does that stand for anal? LOL.
The desricption says a place for Chinese and Russian. Maybe I should bring my own little red flag and wave around.
Well, I guess that is sure going to be something. 6 days to go then I am back. Dam shouldn't mentioned that again.
BlinkSounds like you know nothing about this place and you are not about to find out. Staying in your warm room and going to costa coffee will make sure of this.
BTW, the average Jos does not make 1000RMB per month in Beijing. Not sure what the average is but based on the latest numbers available. 188, 000 people in Beijing make over US$1. 5million (10, 000, 000RMB). Maybe you cannot afford it here.
BTW, the average Jos does not make 1000RMB per month in Beijing. Not sure what the average is but based on the latest numbers available. 188, 000 people in Beijing make over US$1. 5million (10, 000, 000RMB). Maybe you cannot afford it here.There certainly are a lot of rich people in Beijing. Today at lunch I saw both a Bentley and a brand new Lamborghini. A report released earlier this year by the Beijing Citiy administration stated the average salary in 2009 for workers in Beijing was 4, 037 RMB / month. The same report went on to state that the top three industries with the highest average salary in 2009 were finance (14, 515 RMB / month) , telecommunication (6, 776 RMB / month) , and IT service & software development (6, 172 RMB / month). The survey was of Chinese domestic workers and did not take into account expats. Typically when salary is discussed in China it is "take home" rather than gross salary as it is in the west, so I am not sure if these salaries are before or after taxes.
Sammy
FriendlyPlanet
12-15-10, 07:13
Sounds like you know nothing about this place and you are not about to find out. Staying in your warm room and going to costa coffee will make sure of this.
BTW, the average Jos does not make 1000RMB per month in Beijing. Not sure what the average is but based on the latest numbers available. 188, 000 people in Beijing make over US$1. 5million (10, 000, 000RMB). Maybe you cannot afford it here. Average salary in Beijing is around 5000RMB per month, not 1000, so you are right there- http://www.q2hoo.com/2010/07/average-salary-in-china.htm
But 188K who make 10, 000, 000 RMB / yr sounds crazy to me- where do you get this from? We did a lot of demographic analysis of the Beijing population and didn't come up with anything like that. Best data out there says there are around 150K people who have 10, 000, 000RMB (but obviously make a lot less per year than that). http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/04/05/2010040500698.html
Otherwise, I think The Tanuki is right- every town has some interesting options, you just have to get out to find them. Sure, finding girls in AC is like shooting fish in a barrel, but sometimes the hidden pleasure tastes twice as sweet! I'll be in Beijing for a night on Sunday, if anyone wants to go out looking for gems...
Friendly
Loveasiangirls
12-15-10, 07:26
Average salary in Beijing is around 5000RMB per month, not 1000, so you are right there-
http://www.q2hoo.com/2010/07/average-salary-in-china.htm
But 188K who make 10, 000, 000 RMB / yr sounds crazy to me- where do you get this from? We did a lot of demographic analysis of the Beijing population and didn't come up with anything like that. Best data out there says there are around 150K people who have 10, 000, 000RMB (but obviously make a lot less per year than that).
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/04/05/2010040500698.html
Otherwise, I think The Tanuki is right- every town has some interesting options, you just have to get out to find them. Sure, finding girls in AC is like shooting fish in a barrel, but sometimes the hidden pleasure tastes twice as sweet! I'll be in Beijing for a night on Sunday, if anyone wants to go out looking for gems.
FriendlyThese figures are a year old and reported in the media (if you can believe any media). It also stated that about 8, 000 make over 100, 000, 000RMB. Not so hard to believe. Look at the real estate. Properties for 5MM to 10MM selling like hotcakes. Looks at the luxury cars.
The rich ones in Beijing are no longer the expats. This is why the beautiful young Chinese girls are seeking Chinese guys, they are richer. Most expats in Beijing are not so rich.
I was f***g a freebie who was managing a high end watch shop. She told me that every other day some guy would walk in with his young GF and buy her a US$50,000 watch. Compare this to some expats going Maggies and trying to bargain with the girl to save 200RMB.
There was an article a few days ago in the newspaper about a recent real estate fair. International companies coming to an event in Beijing to sell luxury real estate from all over the world to Beijingers. It was well attended by rich Chinese willing to drop a few million dollars to diversify their real estate portfolio.
Hi,
5k RMR per month sounds more reasonable to me.
I might get out tonight to see the infamous Maggies, because its not that far from where I am now.
So if some Monger from SIG is around and up to a beer and some chit chat I am into it.
I just have to see "the scene" by myself and then report something here for the benefits of all.
I might be a bit old fashioned but it doesn't make any sense to pay high price for p4p. If I want that then I would just stay in my country (my home country) and go to the FKK or saunas and have fun there.
Luckily I don't stay in Germany hahahhaha.
Ok, I hope I don't step on anyones toe in here.
Peace!
Blink
Sebastian My
12-15-10, 09:02
Can you give me the address of this place. I'm an american born Chinese, so I think I shouldn't have any prob there.Find ritan park on a map. Its across the road from the north west corner. Close to the nt korean embassy
Mister Seven
12-15-10, 10:28
Gentlemen,
I've called back the numbers that ring once and have gotten an answering machine describing that you can get students, white collar gals, models and the girl next door. The text messages have the same content. One of my friends (local Chinese) just landed in the big house as the numbers are being carefully monitored. They nabbed over sixty guys in two days from what his attorney told me. He's going to spend six months in a correctional facility, will most likely lose job and his family now knows about his hobby. Makes me glad that I have a private stash of numbers from before. Need to clean out the pipes every so often but wouldn't want to imagine what would happen to a businessman / expat busted for mongering. Anyhow, just wanted to make sure that the fellow mongers here are aware. Also, I'm always willing to share my private numbers in exchange for private numbers. If I get enough requests on this post, I'll subscribe so we can PM. Good luck gentlemen.
Seven
The Tanuki
12-15-10, 11:07
I might be a bit old fashioned but it doesn't make any sense to pay high price for p4p. If I want that then I would just stay in my country (my home country) and go to the FKK or saunas and have fun there.
Pussy is just another commodity on the market. The price of it moves up or down in accordance with those old economic principles of supply and demand. Of course there is also the relative appearance of said nookie, the venue of the exchange, QoS (research can help on this) , state of inebriation (both parties) and finally the time of day when the transaction occurs. There are other variables such as the girl's rent being due tomorrow, the guy not having had sex in 8 years and stuff like that. You can get things cheaper in Beijing than Maggies Mongolians, but a number of us prefer those ladies, for our own reasons. To me, it comes down to the rather vague notion of Value. That's what makes it different for all of us. Yea, I've had the $25 LT's in Subic Bay (granted, that was awhile ago) and I've paid some 300 Euros for a ST in Belgium. The best fuck of my life was 400 RMB in Malaysia. But I've gotten to know a number of the Mongolians and like them as friends, not just for groping.
I hope you get a chance to sample some of the things of the city, just for the sake of being there. I get in on Saturday. Hope to catch up with some of you guys there!
The Tanuki
Mtraveller
12-15-10, 15:17
Average salary in Beijing is around 5000RMB per month, not 1000, so you are right there-
http://www.q2hoo.com/2010/07/average-salary-in-china.htm
But 188K who make 10, 000, 000 RMB / yr sounds crazy to me- where do you get this from? We did a lot of demographic analysis of the Beijing population and didn't come up with anything like that. Best data out there says there are around 150K people who have 10, 000, 000RMB (but obviously make a lot less per year than that).
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/04/05/2010040500698.html
Otherwise, I think The Tanuki is right- every town has some interesting options, you just have to get out to find them. Sure, finding girls in AC is like shooting fish in a barrel, but sometimes the hidden pleasure tastes twice as sweet! I'll be in Beijing for a night on Sunday, if anyone wants to go out looking for gems.
FriendlyIt is also true that the lower end of the wage scale in the service sector is indeed 1000 RMB. This is first hand information from people I know. Nobody can feed a family in Beijing from this, so this is paid to migrant workers (male and female) living in dormatories, young girls in the service industry still living at home aso. And of course there is a strong salary differential once you leave the pretty city center and go to the suburb towns and villages. Go to a small restaurant in along the 5th ring road and ask the waitress what she makes.
Anyway income below 19000 RMB per year is tax free in China.
Loveasiangirls
12-15-10, 16:01
It is also true that the lower end of the wage scale in the service sector is indeed 1000 RMB. This is first hand information from people I know. Nobody can feed a family in Beijing from this, so this is paid to migrant workers (male and female) living in dormatories, young girls in the service industry still living at home aso. And of course there is a strong salary differential once you leave the pretty city center and go to the suburb towns and villages. Go to a small restaurant in along the 5th ring road and ask the waitress what she makes.
Anyway income below 19000 RMB per year is tax free in China. Minimum wage varies per province. In Beijing it is 960RMB per month. Shanghai has the highest at 1200RMB.
Sebastian My
12-16-10, 05:49
Gentlemen,
One of my friends (local Chinese) just landed in the big house as the numbers are being carefully monitored. They nabbed over sixty guys in two days from what his attorney told me. He's going to spend six months in a correctional facility, will most likely lose job and his family now knows about his hobby. Makes me glad that I have a private stash of numbers from before. Need to clean out the pipes every so often but wouldn't want to imagine what would happen to a businessman / expat busted for mongering. Anyhow, just wanted to make sure that the fellow mongers here are aware.
SevenConcerning the variable nature of risk in this fine city there is nothing standard or normal about Beijing, so always take these type of comments with caution. But over the years I have observed some patterns. The obvious ones are during big events, party conferences, external events, etc. Don't come to Beijing during some show piece international event and expect the situation to be normal. The next ones are the periods before major holidays. Which for some strange reason includes Christmas. The crack downs before local holidays, such as the 2 week long holidays, tend to be a quick grab of extra bribes to help pay for the all important gifts for the folks at home. I suspect the period before Christmas may be similar, the girls go for a final effort at the ever diminishing laowai's and the LE's do the same with the girls. My only caveat is the efforts over the last few years have had a higher moral focus than financial focus. Which is not so good. So to reinforce Mister Seven, be careful out their. With some basic common sense and a cautious attitude you should be ok. But Always grab the all important numbers. Personal contacts are always the safest course of action. Both for yourself and the all important supply.
As for income's. The 55 years old cleaning lady who fills the urinals with ice each morning earns about 800RM-1000RM per month, but she certainly does not fill my heart with desire. Our lovely 24year old marketing assistants earn 6000RM per month and they do interest me. Although I have never partook. Take your choice who you want to bollocks.
Just received from the US Embassy in Beijing:
Taking Precautions at Beijing Bars and Nightclubs.
The USA Embassy has seen an increase in reports of violence against USA citizens at bars and nightclubs in Beijing. The most recent incidents began as disputes over small matters, such as spilled drinks or laughter that was taken as a gibe, and then developed into serious altercations resulting in injuries.
In recent weeks, the USA Embassy received several reports about the unprovoked harassment of USA citizens, including two incidents that occurred at the Club Latte nightclub on the property of Worker? S Stadium near the Sanlitun bar district. In light of these incidents, the USA Embassy has advised USA government personnel to avoid going to Club Latte. You should take this information into consideration when making entertainment plans.
Then were the usual suggestions (Never go alone, always have a cell phone, pay attention to surroundings, etc.). So remember, be careful out there and buddy up. Preferably with a cute young thing!
Fifty Shades
12-19-10, 16:18
Just read and verified that CL has discontinued its adult international listings. I know that there are mixed opinions about CL in Beijing, but does anyone have any other online site listing recommendations? I have been as successful with CL as I have have with in-person pickups in Beijing.
Thanks!
Loveasiangirls
12-20-10, 02:39
Just read and verified that CL has discontinued its adult international listings. I know that there are mixed opinions about CL in Beijing, but does anyone have any other online site listing recommendations? I have been as successful with CL as I have have with in-person pickups in Beijing.
Thanks! I am not sure what you are referring too. The "casual encounters" section in personals is still there and all the "massage girls" still advertise in the "services" section.
Straydog Jr
12-20-10, 08:30
Regency Sauna is open for Full business but has effectively priced it self off the market at 1, 150. For 75 minutes and 1 pop and 1, 800- for 2h and 2 pops. The mamasan quoted new management with new regulations.
Upon inquiry at the reception, the Top Club does not provide FS.
Clean Gene
12-20-10, 09:33
Just received from the US Embassy in Beijing:
Taking Precautions at Beijing Bars and Nightclubs.
The USA Embassy has seen an increase in reports of violence against USA citizens at bars and nightclubs in Beijing. The most recent incidents began as disputes over small matters, such as spilled drinks or laughter that was taken as a gibe, and then developed into serious altercations resulting in injuries.
In recent weeks, the USA Embassy received several reports about the unprovoked harassment of USA citizens, including two incidents that occurred at the Club Latte nightclub on the property of Worker? S Stadium near the Sanlitun bar district. In light of these incidents, the USA Embassy has advised USA government personnel to avoid going to Club Latte. You should take this information into consideration when making entertainment plans.
Then were the usual suggestions (Never go alone, always have a cell phone, pay attention to surroundings, etc.). So remember, be careful out there and buddy up. Preferably with a cute young thing! KB:
Do you have any details as to whether White Americans were attacked?
I'm under the impression that only one White American was involved. And that he was quite "rowdy".
CG
KB:
Do you have any details as to whether White Americans were attacked?
I'm under the impression that only one White American was involved. And that he was quite "rowdy".
CGSorry, no info except what I copied from the Embassy message I received (also got it in their "Christmas newsletter today). Found myself thinking about it last Saturday in Maggie's when a very drunken Russian bumped into me and knock my drink from my hand. Maggie's staff must have heard about the incidents in Sanlitun, as they quickly cleaned the mess and gave me a double. Not sure what happened to the Russian, but I did not see him again.
Fifty Shades
12-21-10, 01:28
i am not sure what you are referring too. the "casual encounters" section in personals is still there and all the "massage girls" still advertise in the "services" section.i guess the ads are migrating to other categories:
from http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/12/20/5683107-craigslist-closes-all-adult-services-sections
attention sex shoppers: craigslist has closed the door on all its adult services sections, in every country in which it operates.
for the 50 million craigslist users in the usa, that door has been shut since september, when the online classified service yielded to pressure from a group of attorney generals from 17 states, who complained the site was passively facilitating prostitution and ****. some saw that move as a blow to free speech. but the site didn't capitulate without some petulance: slapping a big, black "censored" label over where adult services used to reside in its "services" section.
but now the exclusion of that category has expanded to account for all 700 sites in 70 countries where users upload to craigslist, a according to wired's ryan singel, who noticed " the unannounced disappearance of the section from the international versions of the site."
in some countries, such as thailand, my native land, where i'm visiting for the holidays, therapeutic services may very well now be the go-to place for finding that extra something something. i clicked on a "5 star massage" which led to a link that looks suspiciously escort-like, with silhouettes of nude girls. oh, and this small banner ad was probably a giveaway, too: "undress her! some are genuine escorts in seattle!"
also over in craigslist paris,"young thai boy for a sensual massage" also fell under the therapeutic services category.
this is really interesting though: therapeutic services falls into one of only three categories that generates revenue for craigslist, through ad fees. the others are job listings in 18 cities and brokered new york city apartments.
Regency Sauna is open for Full business but has effectively priced it self off the market at 1, 150. For 75 minutes and 1 pop and 1, 800- for 2h and 2 pops. The mamasan quoted new management with new regulations.
Upon inquiry at the reception, the Top Club does not provide FS. Regency has been at this price for some time. I guess it's at the expensive end of the market, but not completely OTT for Beijing. The service has traditionally been pretty good there, and the girls well-trained and obliging. So some people will pay for quality.
However, it's not quite business as usual. They are still being rather cautious at certain times of the day (mid-evening in particular) , so you could still find you're out of luck if they're being nervous for some reason (warnings about a possible raid, for instance). Also, I've been told that the girls are not allowed to strip right off: they take off their underpants to do the deed, but keep their short skirts (uniform-style) on. Some mongers may find that a turn-on, of course, but others will be disappointed. You might find, too, that the girls would prefer to rush things; none of them wants to be caught in the act if there's a raid.
Still, this is already a big improvement from a few months ago. Let's hope things continue to get better.
[Apologies: my Chinese characters are showing up as gibberish for some reason]
INTRO
For years I'd been hearing about Yanjiao, a far eastern suburb of Beijing technically located in Hebei, as a destination with plentiful action at prices much lower than in Beijing. Finally made it out last Sun. The verdict is that great action is definitely available, but it's not as obvious as previous reports from years past on ISG made out. I walked around town a good bit before finding a choice I was happy with, but it's still a small town, it wasn't cold, and I eventually found several promising options. I'd like to go again in the next few weeks, so interested parties should PM me if they want to make a trip.
The main challenge is that the action seems to have moved off the main east-west road, called Jingha Gonglu &20140; &21704; &20844; &36335; and onto the side streets. The reason for this is very clear: nearly every major storefront on the main drag is now devoted to hawking residential real estate. It's really pretty astonishing. It's like some kind of frontier boom town. Tons of construction and change everywhere. That's why earlier Yanjiao reports on ISG proved to be of limited usefulness. My report should bring folks up to date.
I speak good Chinese, which definitely made things smoother, but I don't think it would be strictly necessary. They're not used to seeing foreigners out there, that's for sure, but they still know what you want, and everyone was nice and accommodating to me. But legit services are available, too, so if anyone does get confused about your intentions, just say you want to da3 pao4, which is FS. The word for the 'complete package' at a sauna is quan2tao4.
MY YANJIAO SAUNA RECOMMENDATION:
The full sauna treatment is available at Roman Holiday (&32599; &39532; &20551; &26085. Here's a link to the Google map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=12280730587775800310&q=%E7%87%95%E9%83%8A+%E7%BD%97%E9%A9%AC%E8%8A%82%E6%97%A5&hl=en&dtab=0&sll=39. 947641, 116. 797046&sspn=0. 009667, 0.017952&ie=UTF8&ll=39. 956892, 116. 769304&spn=0, 0&z=15.
It's on Xinggong Xidajie &34892; &23467; &35199; &22823; &34903; , just west of the intersection with Yanling Lu &24310; &38517; &36335; &12290;
I got the Rmb600 option, which was the full set I've experienced in Shanghai and other cities in China. In Beijing my understanding is it will run 1, 200 or more, if you can find it. There were options at 250, 490, 600, and 800. I think 250 was for bare bones FS. 490 was for some extras (probably BJ) and 60 miniutes, and 600 was for the full set at 90 minutes. 800 would get you 3 hours and 'whatever you want', which I believe means the same full set that I had PLUS as many additional times as you care to pop in the time allowed. That contrasts with the 600 option, which I learned from my girl, didn't include a second pop unless I wanted to add another 250. I chose a 19 year old beauty from Heilongjiang. As I predicted, her service wasn't the very best (I knew I'd get better service from one of the slightly older ones) , but she was beautiful, and we had a good time.
There's a Rmb28 entry fee, which includes the shower facilities and PJs (as always, avoid the one-use PJs that cost money and go for the laundered ones). They charged me Rmb28 for a lousy pot of tea, but I complained, and so they agreed to waive the entry fee.
The sauna is surprisingly new and clean. There's the usual open showers with young boys around to towel you off. You get the locker key, they PJs etc.
Once your showered and in your private room (which includes private bathroom) , they send in a lineup of about 5 girls to choose. But feel free to send those away and ask for another set. Compared with other places visited, this seems to be the premium option in town, in terms of facilities and price, but that's not to say you couldn't find great-looking girls at other places.
OTHER PROMISING OPTIONS I SAW BUT DIDN'T TRY:
#1: Before I found Roman Holiday, I visited another, lower-end sauna with a big Yu Rong &28020; &23481; sign. I'm prety sure it's on on Yanling Lu &29141; &28789; &36335; , which is the second north-south road running perpendicular off of Jingha Gonglu, if U-turn north and walk about 100m. I was led to a room with maybe 5-6 girls, but didn't see one I really liked. Some were old. The management apologized profusely and said at night starting at 8pm there are up to 30 girls available, but at 2pm on Sun afternoon many were sleeping or out for lunch. I was quoted Rmb150 there, which I think would have been for bare bones FS with no extras. But one could probably get the full treatment there for around 400, based on my previous reading about Yanjiao. I actually saw a stunner there, but she seemed to be taking a break. Definitely worth another visit at evening time.
#2: There's a huge Greek Revival-looking (I. E, big white columns) hotel called Venus Hotel right on the main road, Yanling Gonglu, on the north side of the road. Next to the hotel is a sauna called something like Venus Health Center or something of that sort. Those buildings are big and garish you can't miss them. It initially looked like that would be the main game in town, but when I tried to enter the health center was unfortunately closed and locked on Sun afternoon. It didn't look permanent. It's worth a check when you go back.
#3 Various small barbershops. At one a passable but not very pretty woman offered 400 for FS plus the full sauna type treatment, but there was no sauna facilities. She lowered price to 300 when I decided to leave, but I was not to be convinced.
GETTING TO YANJIAO.
On the way out I took Subway line 1 east to Baliqiao &20843; &37324; &26725; , which involves a change to the extension line at either Sihui &22235; &24800; or Sihuidong &22235; &24800; &19996; stations. Outside the east exit of Baliqiao station, there are many black cabs that can take you the 20-25 minute drive to Yanjiao. I bargained pretty fiercely and got them down to Rmb60. That may not be the absolute lowest price, but I think it's close. Take the Jingha Expressway (Jingha Gaosu, &20140; &21704; &39640; &36895). Once you cross east of the tollbooth, it becomes Jingha Gonglu, the main east-west thoroughfare.
But on the way back I discovered a better option: Bus 930. The stop called Yanling Lukou &33395; &29618; &36335; &21475; is on Yanling Lu, just at the intersection of Xinggong Xidajie. Just one block east of Roman Holiday. Amazingly, from there, it makes only 2-3 stops before getting all the way back to the CBD in Beijing. The trip takes 40 minutes, very comfortable, and costs Rmb5. I got off on Jianguomenwai Dajie somewhere between Guomao and Dawang Lu. If you can read Chinese, or at least recognize a map of east Beijing, here's the bus map showing the whole route.
http://www.bjbus.com/home/map_section.php?uTab=1&uType=2&uKeyword=930.
Call Me Sunny
12-25-10, 20:50
I heard from my japanese friend that there is a club / place where we can chat with girls and sometimes can bring the girls home, he forget the name + location but he said its sounds like "Sonoku hakusa" the place is look like japanese but girls are from China. Do anyone ever heard about it? Because I want to try that place but I got no information of that place.
I heard from my japanese friend that there is a club / place where we can chat with girls and sometimes can bring the girls home, he forget the name + location but he said its sounds like "Sonoku hakusa" the place is look like japanese but girls are from China. Do anyone ever heard about it? Because I want to try that place but I got no information of that place.I've never heard of a "Sonoku hakusa" (sounds like a collection of old Pokemon characters to me.) But there definitely are Chinese variations on the old Japanese hostess bar in Beijing. There is a pocket of them in SOHO New Town (Dawang Lu station). For more addresses, consult the ads in "Concierge" or "Super City Beijing". Two free magazines in Japanese. They are often advertised as "snack" bars, you know, as in "sunakku". Maybe that's where the confusion comes from.
Don't expect too much. They will yell "irrashaimase!" at you when you enter, and will try their best in cheering you up with repetitive "sugoi desu ne". If you are looking for a refined discussion in nihongo, you will most likely be disappointed. Just like back home, their mission is to make you buy drinks. As for their take-outability: Similar rules as back home apply. You will hear a lot of "if you come here more often," or "if we know each other better." After many expensive visits, you might score a dohan, which is usually at the China World shopping mall, or at Central Place, across the street from SOHO.
The ol' ball and chain is out of town for the next couple of nights and would like to go out and try something different. Been to Maggie's many times (and always leave satisfied) , but looking to branch out a bit. I have never noticed any postings about any "Shanghai" (or Dongguan for that matter) types of spas in Beijing. Are there any? If interested in getting together over the next couple of days, PM me and we can probably hook up.
I'm going to print this out, it's great! I was once bonking a cute curvy girl named Fang Fang (I think others here have sampled her pleasures, and I may still have her info) whom I drove home once and that was my first encounter with Yanjiao. She'll cowgirl you as long as you can keep hard because she's addicted to the cascading orgasms, but I was paying premium prices for her and decided to keep my distance.
Then for some reason my wife decided she wanted to rent or buy a house in Yanjiao and I thought to myself "My God you don't know what you're doing, but great!" We don't live in China anymore but visit often and this would be our home base. I started having fantasies of our pad becoming a Sugar Baba like den of iniquity when my wife's not around (she's semi-cool about this sort of thing as long as I don't use too much money!). She rented a place and will probably be buying one next month. She told me Yanjiao is going to get or be included in a Beijing area code and there will be a subway stop there on the Tongzhou line soon; I'm not sure if it means it's going to be incorporated into Beijing or not, but it may explain the frenetic pace of development. Now I just have to figure out how to shake my clingy 22-whyear old lover from the north who's always keeping tabs on me. . .
Mao don't.
[QUOTE=Gaoshou; 1105187][Apologies: my Chinese characters are showing up as gibberish for some reason]
INTRO
For years I'd been hearing about Yanjiao, a far eastern suburb of Beijing technically located in Hebei, as a destination with plentiful action at prices much lower than in Beijing. Finally made it out last Sun. The verdict is that great action is definitely available, but it's not as obvious as previous reports from years past on ISG made out. I walked around town a good bit before finding a choice I was happy with, but it's still a small town, it wasn't cold, and I eventually found several promising options. I'd like to go again in the next few weeks, so interested parties should PM me if they want to make a trip.
Hi everyone,
I will be heading to Beijing for the first time in May and was thinking about staying at the Holiday Inn Lido for a few days for convenience regarding the Pig&Thistle.
As I wasn't able to find any rates online, I contacted them by email, and was advised of the following:
Please note that the Management Contract between InterContinental Hotels Group.
('IHG') and Lido Hotel Co. Ltd. ('the Owner') for Holiday Inn Lido Beijing ('The Property')
Will expire midnight 31st December 2010.
From 1st January 2011 onwards, the property will be handed over to the branded hotel.
Chain HK CTS Hotels Co. Ltd. To manage and operate the hotel under the brand of.
Metropark and the Holiday Inn brand will no longer represent the Property. The hotel will.
Be named Metropark Lido Hotel, Beijing ('The Hotel') and it will continue to provide.
International hospitality standards to our guests.
Does anyone know whether this will have any consequences for the Pig&Thistle and the girl-friendliness of the hotel?
I popped by Maggies last night, first time in a while. What is the management thinking? They're renovating it again! After some earlier, not altogether successful, attempts to find the right layout, I think they had it pretty well right by late 2008, when they re-opened after the Olympic shut-down. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is always a sensible motto, but maybe no-one's told the Maggies management that particular one.
Anyway, now the bar's effectively cut in half. You enter by a new door right down the end, and when you get in there's no dance floor (but two pool tables, if you like pool) , and only a bit of space around a cramped bar area. The atmosphere was pretty flat last night. There weren't many northern sisters there. Some have gone back to Mongolia because they know things are quiet in Beijing at this time, but even so.
I met a girl there I'd known ages ago, and she suggested we go to Vics in Gongtibeilu. I'm not a big fan of those big disco-type clubs, but I agreed because Maggies was so dull. What was interesting was that once we got into Vics, which was really jumping at 3am, I saw quite a few familiar Mongolian faces, and some other unfamiliar but obviously Mongolian girls around the place. I'm sure none of them were in Maggies earlier in the night (there were so few people in Maggies, I would have noticed them). I guess they're giving the new-look Maggies a miss right now.
One of the barmen told me they would be finished the renovations by sometime in February. Hopefully they won't mess up the layout too much.
Does anyone know whether this will have any consequences for the Pig & Thistle and the girl-friendliness of the hotel?The Lido will no longer be managed by the Holiday Inn chain beginning January 1. As stated in the previous post it will be managed by a group out of Hong Kong. Most of the principal management positions will remain the same, and the Pig will still be up and running. It might even get a little better as the hotel sheds it's "family Friendly" Holiday Inn moniker. The girl-friendliness is 100% dependent upon the management's connections with the local police. If the local police are not happy they will come by every night, running the girls off.
As someone who has frequented the Holiday Inn Lido for over 15 years I will certainly be interested in how things work out. The owner of the hotel is building a new tower on the same property that they say will be 5-star quality. It is up in the air as to what group will manage the new building.
As I learn more about the Lido's demise I will certainly post on this board.
Sammy
Anyway, now the bar's effectively cut in half. You enter by a new door right down the end, and when you get in there's no dance floor (but two pool tables, if you like pool) , and only a bit of space around a cramped bar area. This change at Maggie's is something that happens every year around this time. In the "good old days" before the Olympics, Maggie's would have both the front and back of the club open at the same time, and the place would still be packed. Since then the crowds are smaller, especially in the winter months. They elect to close the front, large half of the bar, and move everyone to the back half. I have often referred to the back half as "Maggie's Lounge" as it has much more of a lounge atmosphere rather than a Club atmosphere. I am certain that the main reason for the change is not to renovate the front half, but simply to move into a smaller area better suited for the decreased number of customers during this time of year. A big bar (like the front half) with 10 people looks much worse than a small bar with the same 10 people. It is also most likely an attempt to cut costs – a smaller space requires less support staff.
Rest assured that after Spring Festival they will open back up the front have of the bar and shift everyone back to that side.
Sammy
Peter Kettler
01-02-11, 08:53
Gaoshou thanks for the great report. I have been to Yanjiao also recently but as a almost non-Chinese-speaking foreigner I got kind of lost there. So I very appreciate your report and would definitely like to PM you to arrange another visit there together in the next days / weeks.
Could you please let me know how to PM you are leave me a message somehow?
[Apologies: my Chinese characters are showing up as gibberish for some reason]
INTRO
For years I'd been hearing about Yanjiao, a far eastern suburb of Beijing technically located in Hebei, as a destination with plentiful action at prices much lower than in Beijing. Finally made it out last Sun. The verdict is that great action is definitely available, but it's not as obvious as previous reports from years past on ISG made out. I walked around town a good bit before finding a choice I was happy with, but it's still a small town, it wasn't cold, and I eventually found several promising options. I'd like to go again in the next few weeks, so interested parties should PM me if they want to make a trip.
The main challenge is that the action seems to have moved off the main east-west road, called Jingha Gonglu &20140; &21704; &20844; &36335; and onto the side streets. The reason for this is very clear: nearly every major storefront on the main drag is now devoted to hawking residential real estate. It's really pretty astonishing. It's like some kind of frontier boom town. Tons of construction and change everywhere. That's why earlier Yanjiao reports on ISG proved to be of limited usefulness. My report should bring folks up to date.
I speak good Chinese, which definitely made things smoother, but I don't think it would be strictly necessary. They're not used to seeing foreigners out there, that's for sure, but they still know what you want, and everyone was nice and accommodating to me. But legit services are available, too, so if anyone does get confused about your intentions, just say you want to da3 pao4, which is FS. The word for the 'complete package' at a sauna is quan2tao4.
MY YANJIAO SAUNA RECOMMENDATION:
The full sauna treatment is available at Roman Holiday (&32599; &39532; &20551; &26085. Here's a link to the Google map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=12280730587775800310&q=%E7%87%95%E9%83%8A+%E7%BD%97%E9%A9%AC%E8%8A%82%E6%97%A5&hl=en&dtab=0&sll=39. 947641, 116. 797046&sspn=0. 009667, 0.017952&ie=UTF8&ll=39. 956892, 116. 769304&spn=0, 0&z=15.
It's on Xinggong Xidajie &34892; &23467; &35199; &22823; &34903; , just west of the intersection with Yanling Lu &24310; &38517; &36335; &12290;
I got the Rmb600 option, which was the full set I've experienced in Shanghai and other cities in China. In Beijing my understanding is it will run 1, 200 or more, if you can find it. There were options at 250, 490, 600, and 800. I think 250 was for bare bones FS. 490 was for some extras (probably BJ) and 60 miniutes, and 600 was for the full set at 90 minutes. 800 would get you 3 hours and 'whatever you want', which I believe means the same full set that I had PLUS as many additional times as you care to pop in the time allowed. That contrasts with the 600 option, which I learned from my girl, didn't include a second pop unless I wanted to add another 250. I chose a 19 year old beauty from Heilongjiang. As I predicted, her service wasn't the very best (I knew I'd get better service from one of the slightly older ones) , but she was beautiful, and we had a good time.
There's a Rmb28 entry fee, which includes the shower facilities and PJs (as always, avoid the one-use PJs that cost money and go for the laundered ones). They charged me Rmb28 for a lousy pot of tea, but I complained, and so they agreed to waive the entry fee.
The sauna is surprisingly new and clean. There's the usual open showers with young boys around to towel you off. You get the locker key, they PJs etc.
Once your showered and in your private room (which includes private bathroom) , they send in a lineup of about 5 girls to choose. But feel free to send those away and ask for another set. Compared with other places visited, this seems to be the premium option in town, in terms of facilities and price, but that's not to say you couldn't find great-looking girls at other places.
OTHER PROMISING OPTIONS I SAW BUT DIDN'T TRY:
#1: Before I found Roman Holiday, I visited another, lower-end sauna with a big Yu Rong &28020; &23481; sign. I'm prety sure it's on on Yanling Lu &29141; &28789; &36335; , which is the second north-south road running perpendicular off of Jingha Gonglu, if U-turn north and walk about 100m. I was led to a room with maybe 5-6 girls, but didn't see one I really liked. Some were old. The management apologized profusely and said at night starting at 8pm there are up to 30 girls available, but at 2pm on Sun afternoon many were sleeping or out for lunch. I was quoted Rmb150 there, which I think would have been for bare bones FS with no extras. But one could probably get the full treatment there for around 400, based on my previous reading about Yanjiao. I actually saw a stunner there, but she seemed to be taking a break. Definitely worth another visit at evening time.
#2: There's a huge Greek Revival-looking (I. E, big white columns) hotel called Venus Hotel right on the main road, Yanling Gonglu, on the north side of the road. Next to the hotel is a sauna called something like Venus Health Center or something of that sort. Those buildings are big and garish you can't miss them. It initially looked like that would be the main game in town, but when I tried to enter the health center was unfortunately closed and locked on Sun afternoon. It didn't look permanent. It's worth a check when you go back.
#3 Various small barbershops. At one a passable but not very pretty woman offered 400 for FS plus the full sauna type treatment, but there was no sauna facilities. She lowered price to 300 when I decided to leave, but I was not to be convinced.
GETTING TO YANJIAO.
On the way out I took Subway line 1 east to Baliqiao &20843; &37324; &26725; , which involves a change to the extension line at either Sihui &22235; &24800; or Sihuidong &22235; &24800; &19996; stations. Outside the east exit of Baliqiao station, there are many black cabs that can take you the 20-25 minute drive to Yanjiao. I bargained pretty fiercely and got them down to Rmb60. That may not be the absolute lowest price, but I think it's close. Take the Jingha Expressway (Jingha Gaosu, &20140; &21704; &39640; &36895). Once you cross east of the tollbooth, it becomes Jingha Gonglu, the main east-west thoroughfare.
But on the way back I discovered a better option: Bus 930. The stop called Yanling Lukou &33395; &29618; &36335; &21475; is on Yanling Lu, just at the intersection of Xinggong Xidajie. Just one block east of Roman Holiday. Amazingly, from there, it makes only 2-3 stops before getting all the way back to the CBD in Beijing. The trip takes 40 minutes, very comfortable, and costs Rmb5. I got off on Jianguomenwai Dajie somewhere between Guomao and Dawang Lu. If you can read Chinese, or at least recognize a map of east Beijing, here's the bus map showing the whole route.
http://www.bjbus.com/home/map_section.php?uTab=1&uType=2&uKeyword=930.
I am certain that the main reason for the change is not to renovate the front half, but simply to move into a smaller area better suited for the decreased number of customers during this time of year. A big bar (like the front half) with 10 people looks much worse than a small bar with the same 10 people. It is also most likely an attempt to cut costs – a smaller space requires less support staff.
SammyOh, I see. Thanks for the explanation. That all makes sense; I bow to your superior knowledge, and am reassured that things will get back to normal before too long.
But I still wonder if it's entirely successful: I've been back a couple of times over the last few nights, and I see men walk in, take a look at the place, and walk out again, either straight away, or after one drink. The northern sisters find it discouraging, too, and often head off elsewhere. I've been twice now to Vics at the suggestion of girls from Maggies, who wanted to see if there was any better action there. And playing dance music in a "lounge bar" without a dance floor creates an odd atmosphere; you feel straight away that something's missing.
Still, as a Maggies fan from way back I'll keep going when family circumstances allow me, even in the current version.
Jon Guoren
01-03-11, 22:17
The Bai Yun Temple is in an area called Xicheng in Beijing. It is well worth a visit if you are into Taoist spirituality. You can get an authentic acupuncture treatment (DEFINITELY NO POONING) within temple grounds for a stupid 10 yuan RMB (one hour including diagnosis and treatment).
Going back on topic, last time I went for acupuncture I decide to "explore" the area.
This was during the Olympic Games so there were a lot of locals dressed as "guides" who were basically keeping an eye out to report to local officials probably, so I was on-guard (I. E. Careful to appear as inconspicuous as possible. Not easy as a 6' ++ foreigner in a very Chinese part of Beijing.
Walking past the front entrance of the temple and continuing on there is a side street to the right with a bookshop. This is where I need to think carefully about the directions.
Basically, from here you continue on until you reach the next major road and hang a left then continue along the main road. In other words, walk along Baiyun St, take the right past the second hand Taoist book store and then turn left along the main road at the bottom. Or simply take a left out of the temple and walk DOWN (I. E. South) the main road called Baiyun Road.
At the next main junction at the bottom of Baiyun Road hang a left (I. E. In the OPPOSITE direction to the WanghongDongwu hospital on the google map.)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=white Cloud temple&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl.
Carrying along this main road to the left you will start to notice side roads off to the left (basically pedestrian bits) , only about 30m long and very quiet, residential with some small businesses. You will find one with a foot massage sign. This could easily pass for a traditional foot massage place, but I can happily assure you it is not. It is not a touristy area at all, but the feel is quite safe, it is close to a main road.
The girls inside were very friendly (and seemed inexperienced). I got a duck and went off to the cubicle. They gave me see-thru disposable shorts to put on. I already had my eye on the girl at the counter who was wearing hotpant jeans and was a 10/10 without a doubt. I asked if I could see another girl as I felt I'd been given a girl who wasn't getting much business (although she was young. 18-19 and OK but a bit of acne).
She was very obliging and I felt far more guilty about it than she seemed to mind. Perhaps she was used to it. Anyway, the hotpants hottie (21-23) was not thrilled that I wanted to push past any massage and get to the point. I was a bit scared of getting busted and wasn't up for wasting time also. But she gave the slowest and most amazing HJ for a full 50 mins. She didn't allow for much touching, but I gave her quite a bit of attention. She was extremely patient about my wanting a very long and slow HJ to take the edge off my day and used oil and both hands to pull my FS right back and massage my bell on every stroke. It was the best jerking off ever.
At 55mins I couldn't resist shooting my load all over her hands and she tidied up. We had lots of romantic talk during the waz as she loosened up more and more and let me feel her up more intimately. The boundaries were fairly clear though. I couldn't put my hand down her knickers, but she enjoyed some gentle breast massage and feeling thru panties as well as squeezing her ass. She really was a stunner.
At first, the up front cost was 180, but, stickler for a haggle and a bargain, I got a reduction (even though a lawai) down to 150. I don't recommend trying this. I just can speak a bit of Chinese so I got away with it. If you can find this place and are OK with "rub and tug" at this price, you won't be disappointed. Anything more and you'd have to rely on your own judgment and expertise at getting it. I wasn't in a position to try a come back to my hotel routine (I had intimate family in the hotel).
If you can find this foot massage and enjoy it, let me know if its still there, I'm coming to BJ in March. It isn't that easy to find, but I think my directions are accurate. I might add, that when I had finished, and had a quick shower at my request, the girl politely waiting for me in the (cold) shower room with towel, there was a man at the reception smoking and being stroked by other staff (by the way, the place is small and the girls wear fashion casuals. The teen look of which I liked a lot).
Finally, I would mention that there is a very dirty / seedy rub and tug near to Jiangguomen metro station I've been to a few times. Get the other side of McDonald's (opposite side to Silk Street) and you have a few banks and an indoor market. Now you need to walk in the AWAY direction from GUOMAO station. I. E. If you're standing outside McDonalds you would turn RIGHT and cross over the main road and continue in the direction to the RIGHT of the McDonalds (silk street) main entrance. You might be able to see a "SCI-TECH" hotel building.
As you walk along you will come to a mainish road to the left with a couple of hotels. If you walk right the way along, it will become quieter and there is a genuine barber shop (which does a good non-monger massage incidentally for about 30-50yuan RMB) with some nice looking young girl staff. You might be able to get more, but I enjoyed the genuine massage enough.
Anyway, opposite the hotels, there is a road off to the left which is always fairly busy with locals. I will tell you the name of it and give the google map.
There is a foot massage sign outside and it is on the left handside as U-turn the corner towards the right. Before you get there there are a couple of "sex shops" so you'll know you're in the right place.
Anyway, this is one seedy joint. You go into a dark and small closet type room with a hard bed (covered) and wait for a girl to come along. You get 10-15 mins massage then as long as it takes oily HJ. You can normally expose the breasts, often also feel the yoni, but most of the girls I got HJ'd by there don't like digital entry. However, you can push your luck as much as you'd like. I nearly got my end away with a chubby but gorgeous country girl (probably 19-20) once but couldn't be assed to go through with it. You can have fun, but its cramped and you might feel paranoid about getting busted (I know I did) as you get shouting and so on coming from others.
Its basically quite a locals place, but for 100 yuan at the end (don't give on the door, or you'll pay twice) , it's a bargain HJ in my opinion. Definitely you'll leave having blown your load and feeling like "where have I just been?" Maps follow:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=jianguomen&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=&rlz=1I7PRFA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl
Zoom down to "Long Peace Road. Ie. Chang an men"
See where Jianguomen is marked. Cross over to the ANXI st. Side and walk LEFT (on the map) towards "High Fly Pizza" etc. Now, I'm pretty sure its left up "Wenyi North Road" on the map. Straight past Wenyi North Road and where it is marked "Shaanxi Song and Dance Theatre" on the map (although it could be one of the roads before). Look out for the 'backstreet' veering off to the left. Take the RIGHT fork and then its there on the left corner as turn off to the right. There may be another (more blatant) palour a bit further along, but I didn't try as it seemed more expensive.
The knocking shop is directly opposite the locals grocery store. Enjoy seedy bliss "palace"
Jon Guoren
01-03-11, 22:19
The Bai Yun Temple is in an area called Xicheng in Beijing. It is well worth a visit if you are into Taoist spirituality. You can get an authentic acupuncture treatment (DEFINITELY NO POONING) within temple grounds for a stupid 10 yuan RMB (one hour including diagnosis and treatment).
Going back on topic, last time I went for acupuncture I decide to "explore" the area.
This was during the Olympic Games so there were a lot of locals dressed as "guides" who were basically keeping an eye out to report to local officials probably, so I was on-guard (I. E. Careful to appear as inconspicuous as possible. Not easy as a 6' ++ foreigner in a very Chinese part of Beijing.
Walking past the front entrance of the temple and continuing on there is a side street to the right with a bookshop. This is where I need to think carefully about the directions.
Basically, from here you continue on until you reach the next major road and hang a left then continue along the main road. In other words, walk along Baiyun St, take the right past the second hand Taoist book store and then turn left along the main road at the bottom. Or simply take a left out of the temple and walk DOWN (I. E. South) the main road called Baiyun Road.
At the next main junction at the bottom of Baiyun Road hang a left (I. E. In the OPPOSITE direction to the WanghongDongwu hospital on the google map.)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=white Cloud temple&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl.
Carrying along this main road to the left you will start to notice side roads off to the left (basically pedestrian bits) , only about 30m long and very quiet, residential with some small businesses. You will find one with a foot massage sign. This could easily pass for a traditional foot massage place, but I can happily assure you it is not. It is not a touristy area at all, but the feel is quite safe, it is close to a main road.
The girls inside were very friendly (and seemed inexperienced). I got a duck and went off to the cubicle. They gave me see-thru disposable shorts to put on. I already had my eye on the girl at the counter who was wearing hotpant jeans and was a 10/10 without a doubt. I asked if I could see another girl as I felt I'd been given a girl who wasn't getting much business (although she was young. 18-19 and OK but a bit of acne).
She was very obliging and I felt far more guilty about it than she seemed to mind. Perhaps she was used to it. Anyway, the hotpants hottie (21-23) was not thrilled that I wanted to push past any massage and get to the point. I was a bit scared of getting busted and wasn't up for wasting time also. But she gave the slowest and most amazing HJ for a full 50 mins. She didn't allow for much touching, but I gave her quite a bit of attention. She was extremely patient about my wanting a very long and slow HJ to take the edge off my day and used oil and both hands to pull my FS right back and massage my bell on every stroke. It was the best jerking off ever.
At 55mins I couldn't resist shooting my load all over her hands and she tidied up. We had lots of romantic talk during the waz as she loosened up more and more and let me feel her up more intimately. The boundaries were fairly clear though. I couldn't put my hand down her knickers, but she enjoyed some gentle breast massage and feeling thru panties as well as squeezing her ass. She really was a stunner.
At first, the up front cost was 180, but, stickler for a haggle and a bargain, I got a reduction (even though a lawai) down to 150. I don't recommend trying this. I just can speak a bit of Chinese so I got away with it. If you can find this place and are OK with "rub and tug" at this price, you won't be disappointed. Anything more and you'd have to rely on your own judgment and expertise at getting it. I wasn't in a position to try a come back to my hotel routine (I had intimate family in the hotel).
If you can find this foot massage and enjoy it, let me know if its still there, I'm coming to BJ in March. It isn't that easy to find, but I think my directions are accurate. I might add, that when I had finished, and had a quick shower at my request, the girl politely waiting for me in the (cold) shower room with towel, there was a man at the reception smoking and being stroked by other staff (by the way, the place is small and the girls wear fashion casuals. The teen look of which I liked a lot).
Finally, I would mention that there is a very dirty / seedy rub and tug near to Jiangguomen metro station I've been to a few times. Get the other side of McDonald's (opposite side to Silk Street) and you have a few banks and an indoor market. Now you need to walk in the AWAY direction from GUOMAO station. I. E. If you're standing outside McDonalds you would turn RIGHT and cross over the main road and continue in the direction to the RIGHT of the McDonalds (silk street) main entrance. You might be able to see a "SCI-TECH" hotel building.
As you walk along you will come to a mainish road to the left with a couple of hotels. If you walk right the way along, it will become quieter and there is a genuine barber shop (which does a good non-monger massage incidentally for about 30-50yuan RMB) with some nice looking young girl staff. You might be able to get more, but I enjoyed the genuine massage enough.
Anyway, opposite the hotels, there is a road off to the left which is always fairly busy with locals. I will tell you the name of it and give the google map.
There is a foot massage sign outside and it is on the left handside as U-turn the corner towards the right. Before you get there there are a couple of "sex shops" so you'll know you're in the right place.
Anyway, this is one seedy joint. You go into a dark and small closet type room with a hard bed (covered) and wait for a girl to come along. You get 10-15 mins massage then as long as it takes oily HJ. You can normally expose the breasts, often also feel the yoni, but most of the girls I got HJ'd by there don't like digital entry. However, you can push your luck as much as you'd like. I nearly got my end away with a chubby but gorgeous country girl (probably 19-20) once but couldn't be assed to go through with it. You can have fun, but its cramped and you might feel paranoid about getting busted (I know I did) as you get shouting and so on coming from others.
Its basically quite a locals place, but for 100 yuan at the end (don't give on the door, or you'll pay twice) , it's a bargain HJ in my opinion. Definitely you'll leave having blown your load and feeling like "where have I just been?" Maps follow:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=jianguomen&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=&rlz=1I7PRFA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl
Zoom down to "Long Peace Road. Ie. Chang an men"
See where Jianguomen is marked. Cross over to the ANXI st. Side and walk LEFT (on the map) towards "High Fly Pizza" etc. Now, I'm pretty sure its left up "Wenyi North Road" on the map. Straight past Wenyi North Road and where it is marked "Shaanxi Song and Dance Theatre" on the map (although it could be one of the roads before). Look out for the 'backstreet' veering off to the left. Take the RIGHT fork and then its there on the left corner as turn off to the right. There may be another (more blatant) palour a bit further along, but I didn't try as it seemed more expensive.
The knocking shop is directly opposite the locals grocery store. Enjoy seedy bliss "palace" you might be able to get for 50RMB (100RMB two pops) if you do a deal with the girl, but don't let the mama know.
PS there are sometimes kids hanging around in the reception. Don't let it put you off too much.
Just sent you a private message. So check it. Link is on the upper right corner under the Notifications menu (kinda unfortunate that the new interface doesn't show PM notifications automatically). Anyone else interested in a trip to Yanjiao, get in touch. There's gold in then thar hills.
Gaoshou thanks for the great report. I have been to Yanjiao also recently but as a almost non-Chinese-speaking foreigner I got kind of lost there. So I very appreciate your report and would definitely like to PM you to arrange another visit there together in the next days / weeks.
Could you please let me know how to PM you are leave me a message somehow?
Since I'm a newbie here, I would like to share a good escort service contact with brothers here. Hope it's useful to you.
I got the contact from one of my good friends several days ago. I've called two hottest girls already. They're really wonderful.
The girls there charge RMB 600 for one hour, and 1500 for overnight.
Call Me Sunny
01-07-11, 20:59
Most of the report are from FL, is there any sauna / bathhouse who offer happy ending?
Is there some report in previous? Ill looking for it if they got it in this thread.
Cheers
Member #3132
01-08-11, 03:00
I v been reading the reports here, found some one mentioned that the agencies phone was monitored and as a result some mongers land at big-house, and the other one said the LE followed the girl to the hotel room.
Has anyone met such situation in 5* international chain hotel? You guys talk to agent in english or Chinese?
I just reviewed the postings for the past month. So few compared to the past. And about all that seems to be happening is that some guy found a place to get a hand job, and a pimp called Chinabro has started advertising. Oh, and Gaoshou discovered Yanjiao, which the golfers among us knew about a long time ago.
Even the guys who used to come on here and pimp for Maggies every day seem to be gone.
For me the sex scene has moved to several upscale apartments where some girls set up. It is a very comfortable and safe environment, and the girls are pretty hot. These places seem to advertise a bit as massage joints when they first open, but once they develop a regular clientele. Mostly expats, they go quiet. Not even a sign on the door. Happy to share a couple of addresses if you write. These places are not cheap. 1200. 1500 FS, but worth it in my view.
Hi Worm,
I am intrigued by your last mail because I am a golfer!
In fact, I am european but come very often to Beijng.
For exemple, in 2 months, I will take my base in a 5 stars hotel, not yet decided which one (friendly, I hope) and play every day a different golf club in Beijing or suburbs.
2 months ago, I stayed 12 days in Shenzhen.
So if you can help a poor lonesome golfer who doesn't speak Chinese, it would be great!
And if you know a 5 stars hotel with massage on premises with HJ possible, I like also.
Answer in pm is also ok.
Thanks in advance.
Since I'm a newbie here, I would like to share a good escort service contact with brothers here. Hope it's useful to you.
I got the contact from one of my good friends several days ago. I've called two hottest girls already. They're really wonderful.
The girls there charge RMB 600 for one hour, and 1500 for overnight. I've already received 7 PMs asking for contact of the escort service agency since yesterday. But some of them didn't share their contacts with me.
Sorry, I mean we exchange contacts, as I need wonderful contacts also. So please send me yours when getting mine.
Cheers
Pardon me for pointing the obvious. I believe that you cannot reply to PM yet as you are still a regular member.
Posting the contact here will result in deletion, I believe. Any chance all 7 PMer will see it before it got deleted?
Sorry if it is a little spicy.
I've already received 7 PMs asking for contact of the escort service agency since yesterday. But some of them didn't share their contacts with me.
Sorry, I mean we exchange contacts, as I need wonderful contacts also. So please send me yours when getting mine.
Cheers
Call Me Sunny
01-08-11, 20:59
I just reviewed the postings for the past month. So few compared to the past. And about all that seems to be happening is that some guy found a place to get a hand job, and a pimp called Chinabro has started advertising. Oh, and Gaoshou discovered Yanjiao, which the golfers among us knew about a long time ago.
Even the guys who used to come on here and pimp for Maggies every day seem to be gone.
For me the sex scene has moved to several upscale apartments where some girls set up. It is a very comfortable and safe environment, and the girls are pretty hot. These places seem to advertise a bit as massage joints when they first open, but once they develop a regular clientele. Mostly expats, they go quiet. Not even a sign on the door. Happy to share a couple of addresses if you write. These places are not cheap. 1200. 1500 FS, but worth it in my view.Yea I agree with you, the sex scene now has moved to the apartments because I just can find girls in apartment near my area. But they only charge 300rmb, for me the girls were okey. 7-7. 5/10 grade. I never heard about the girls who charge 1200 rmb in apartment. To make it clear, I leave near wudaokou. Its hard to find it in sauna / bathhouses, and most of the massage parlour just give HJ not FS. Some do have FS but its far from my area.
Yea I agree with you, the sex scene now has moved to the apartments because I just can find girls in apartment near my area. But they only charge 300rmb, for me the girls were okey. 7-7. 5/10 grade. I never heard about the girls who charge 1200 rmb in apartment. To make it clear, I leave near wudaokou. Its hard to find it in sauna / bathhouses, and most of the massage parlour just give HJ not FS. Some do have FS but its far from my area.Is there a way to find the apartments?
[QUOTE=Worm; 1110140]I just reviewed the postings for the past month. So few compared to the past. And about all that seems to be happening is that some guy found a place to get a hand job, and a pimp called Chinabro has started advertising. Oh, and Gaoshou discovered Yanjiao, which the golfers among us knew about a long time ago.
Yeah, seems nothing of note has been reported for awhile. I'm also reluctant to mention any places. After talking about Haidianhuangzhuang the street has been dead quite. Not sure if there is a connection, but its made me think twice before talking openly about any special spots. Never know who listening these days.
About five months ago it has over nine shops, all open. Now I would be lucky to find at least one.
Any senior members have any cheap spots of note? I don't really have 1200 to blow (along with other things) on a one night stand.
I think I have reached my limit for lame HJs and apathetic Chinese chicks.
Gualtier Malde
01-09-11, 07:22
I just reviewed the postings for the past month. So few compared to the past. And about all that seems to be happening is that some guy found a place to get a hand job, and a pimp called Chinabro has started advertising. Oh, and Gaoshou discovered Yanjiao, which the golfers among us knew about a long time ago.
Even the guys who used to come on here and pimp for Maggies every day seem to be gone.
For me the sex scene has moved to several upscale apartments where some girls set up. It is a very comfortable and safe environment, and the girls are pretty hot. These places seem to advertise a bit as massage joints when they first open, but once they develop a regular clientele. Mostly expats, they go quiet. Not even a sign on the door. Happy to share a couple of addresses if you write. These places are not cheap. 1200. 1500 FS, but worth it in my view. Definitely things have changed. But I don't think "over" is the right term. Just "changed". Since becoming a resident versus a visitor, I have personally taken to establishing more long term freebie arrangements, using services like AdultFriendFinder to find women interesting in an ongoing thing. For me that has been a real bonanza. I've found single women, married women who need more than they get at home, and even a married man who wants his wife to have a more experienced man to be her lover. I mean, you can't stop sexual expression in China, you can only redirect it.
One of my contacts from the above is a single woman who happens to be a nurse in her regular job. She absolutely loves sex, can't get enough. However, she is a semi-pro. She wants "help" financially, but she is not a pure hooker. She loves the sex a lot, never watches a clock, will go where ever and do whatever you want. I would not normally keep her in my freebie stable, but she's just so damn good at f*cking I can't kick her to the curb.
The women coming from relationships are surprisingly open and wild about sex. I have now had two who not only love doing whatever you might imagine, but both have offered to bring along their girlfriends to participate (both are straight, but like to watch and share). Who am I to say no to that?
Please don't PM me asking for contact information. None of these women would respond to a call out of the blue, and some are in committed relationships requiring much discretion. However, if you are a local resident, and want to join in a threesome with one of my friends, PM me. Please, residents only, and I intend to be highly selective if I do it at all. No promises. Local golfers will get priority, gives me a better cover story with the SO. .
On a change of subject, I have a question for the group. The other day, in a taxi, I was tooling along eastward down Jingsong Expressway, between 4th and 5th ring road. I passed by a place called, strangely, the "Beijing Businessman's Museum", which I have to assume displays collections of old briefcases and manual typewriters.
Anyway, behind that were very large signs on buildings proclaiming one place to be a "Man Spa" and the other a KTV. Question, are these worth checking out? Seems with so much visibility, they must be legit, but you never can tell in China. Comments from the cognoscenti?
GM
I just reviewed the postings for the past month. So few compared to the past. And about all that seems to be happening is that some guy found a place to get a hand job, and a pimp called Chinabro has started advertising. Oh, and Gaoshou discovered Yanjiao, which the golfers among us knew about a long time ago.
Even the guys who used to come on here and pimp for Maggies every day seem to be gone.
For me the sex scene has moved to several upscale apartments where some girls set up. It is a very comfortable and safe environment, and the girls are pretty hot. These places seem to advertise a bit as massage joints when they first open, but once they develop a regular clientele. Mostly expats, they go quiet. Not even a sign on the door. Happy to share a couple of addresses if you write. These places are not cheap. 1200. 1500 FS, but worth it in my view. Hey, guy, statement should be made on the basis of fact!
1200. 1500 FS? Cool, it's not cheap.
So are you pimping for these upscale apartments? Is there any evidence to prove your innocence?
My answer. Will be glad if I am wrong actually. More people, more fun.
Forbidden Kid
01-09-11, 10:33
About five months ago it has over nine shops, all open. Now I would be lucky to find at least one.
Any senior members have any cheap spots of note? I don't really have 1200 to blow (along with other things) on a one night stand.
I think I have reached my limit for lame HJs and apathetic Chinese chicks. Yeah, I was always wondering what happened to that area. Just during the summer time, those places were open. But when October came along, those bbs seem as deserted as a ghost town. Even when I drove by around 11pm there were no shops open.
Call Me Sunny, care to get a subscription and share with us the how to for those apartments?
ShinichiOta
01-09-11, 11:07
I'm in Beijing for the next 5 days and would like to meet up at Maggies with some fellow mongers. Anybody game? It's my first time there so any in person help would be greatly appreciated.
Call Me Sunny
01-09-11, 12:00
Is there a way to find the apartments?No, without connection you can't go to that apartment. You must know the room number, the pimp, if don't, you can't pass the apartments gate. And its totally look like others apartment, you never know that maybe your neighbours is a pimp with ladies LOL.
Yeah, seems nothing of note has been reported for awhile. I'm also reluctant to mention any places. After talking about Haidianhuangzhuang the street has been dead quite. Not sure if there is a connection, but its made me think twice before talking openly about any special spots. Never know who listening these days.
About five months ago it has over nine shops, all open. Now I would be lucky to find at least one.
Any senior members have any cheap spots of note? I don't really have 1200 to blow (along with other things) on a one night stand.
I think I have reached my limit for lame HJs and apathetic Chinese chicks. Same with me bro, I don't have 1200 for a single shot, I just student who have limited budget.
Haidianhuangzhuang, is it possible to go there by 119 bus from uibe? Arround 5-6 chan? If yes, WTF! That one of my fav place last year. Is the same with the 1 I found in wudaokou, before in 1 lane got 10 tea house who offer sex but now just can find 1 and without pretty girls on it. But still you can find gem out there if you try harder.
Same with me bro, I don't have 1200 for a single shot, I just student who have limited budget.
Look for Andreas Wang's reports on BBS if you want to do BJ on the cheap. It's been a whilte since I was in town, but updates on Qingnianlu? Street between the Second and Third Ring Roadsin north Chaoyang District, would be good to read. When I was there last, summertime, it was chockablock full of pink-sign shops for a good three blocks, perhaps 20 bustling little storefronts with 3-10 girls or so. (The occasional police sweep shows will close them up for weeks on end, however; oddly in some cases one or two such shops might still be open for business, with limited pickings.) For 200 baht you get a quick pop in a drywalled-in, tiny and hardly tidy room. Down and dirty stuff, indeed, but I had return engagements with a Sasa and a Fifi, absolute beauties with great, great attitudes. Three of my visits there could only be described as a quick-rocks-off endeavor, however, with the girls just wanting the job done ASAP. As always, YMMV. But on a good evening this street is like Halloween, only trick AND treat.
Look for Andreas Wang's reports on BBS if you want to do BJ on the cheap. It's been a whilte since I was in town, but updates on Qingnianlu? Street between the Second and Third Ring Roadsin north Chaoyang District, would be good to read. When I was there last, summertime, it was chockablock full of pink-sign shops for a good three blocks, perhaps 20 bustling little storefronts with 3-10 girls or so. (The occasional police sweep shows will close them up for weeks on end, however; oddly in some cases one or two such shops might still be open for business, with limited pickings.) For 200 baht you get a quick pop in a drywalled-in, tiny and hardly tidy room. Down and dirty stuff, indeed, but I had return engagements with a Sasa and a Fifi, absolute beauties with great, great attitudes. Three of my visits there could only be described as a quick-rocks-off endeavor, however, with the girls just wanting the job done ASAP. As always, YMMV. But on a good evening this street is like Halloween, only trick AND treat.Unfortunately a lot has changed in Beijing since the summer time. Around October many popular BBS spots took a real hit. Every place that has been mentioned on this forum has been particularity effected. I don't think its a coincidence that this site isn't blocked anymore.
That may also be the reason Andreas hasn't mentioned anything for awhile. I've been inclined to keep things to myself, and only share through the PM system.
But it may not really matter. Its possible what we say actually doesn't effect things that much, and every shops is being equally effected regardless what we guys do. Then again maybe we openly talk about a place we are sending out neon signs to the authorities to shut a place down.
However, it is true that you just need to walk around and take a look and you will find a BBS here and there. Most around residential areas without a lot of shops and business. Sadly though it seems theses palces have been few and far between.
South Gate
01-10-11, 18:11
I don't think gong an uses our posts as a guide to which bbs they should hit. We are less than 1 % of the market. Perhaps I am giving them too much credit but it seems more likely that they would go to Chinese blogs that are even more open about names, phone numbers, addresses than we are. They may have unblocked ISG in order to check up on us so that if we visit ISG a lot they can use that in case they have some other reason to get us out of China.
Unfortunately a lot has changed in Beijing since the summer time. Around October many popular BBS spots took a real hit. Every place that has been mentioned on this forum has been particularity effected. I don't think its a coincidence that this site isn't blocked anymore.
That may also be the reason Andreas hasn't mentioned anything for awhile. I've been inclined to keep things to myself, and only share through the PM system.
But it may not really matter. Its possible what we say actually doesn't effect things that much, and every shops is being equally effected regardless what we guys do. Then again maybe we openly talk about a place we are sending out neon signs to the authorities to shut a place down.
However, it is true that you just need to walk around and take a look and you will find a BBS here and there. Most around residential areas without a lot of shops and business. Sadly though it seems theses palces have been few and far between.
Look for Andreas Wang's reports on BBS if you want to do BJ on the cheap. It's been a whilte since I was in town, but updates on Qingnianlu? Street between the Second and Third Ring Roadsin north Chaoyang District, would be good to read. When I was there last, summertime, it was chockablock full of pink-sign shops for a good three blocks, perhaps 20 bustling little storefronts with 3-10 girls or so. (The occasional police sweep shows will close them up for weeks on end, however; oddly in some cases one or two such shops might still be open for business, with limited pickings.) For 200 baht you get a quick pop in a drywalled-in, tiny and hardly tidy room. Down and dirty stuff, indeed, but I had return engagements with a Sasa and a Fifi, absolute beauties with great, great attitudes. Three of my visits there could only be described as a quick-rocks-off endeavor, however, with the girls just wanting the job done ASAP. As always, YMMV. But on a good evening this street is like Halloween, only trick AND treat.I've been visiting this street last week around 10:00PM and it was dead as it can be dead. Different back in November when still several shops open and offered FS (under the condition as Wildhawk described above).
Was also in the Pig and HC. There are WL available even though I feel less.
Visited also 419. They still provide reasonable HJ.
Visited also a view saunas in the city and it looks to me the stopped FS, at least I can't find / get. But I must say also I don't speak Chinese even living Beijing. Any recomendations also in the outskirts of Beijing, Shunyi, ?
Seekingals
01-12-11, 17:22
Since I'm a newbie here, I would like to share a good escort service contact with brothers here. Hope it's useful to you.
I got the contact from one of my good friends several days ago. I've called two hottest girls already. They're really wonderful.
The girls there charge RMB 600 for one hour, and 1500 for overnight. I have several for exchange but I don't have the priviledge to send PM to you. So would you be so kind as to share this contact with me. Much appreciated.
I have several for exchange but I don't have the priviledge to send PM to you. So would you be so kind as to share this contact with me. Much appreciated.Chinabro is pushing his stable of girls. Don't bother sharing with him. Although I am sure he is looking for new workers.
Seekingals
01-13-11, 08:49
Chinabro is pushing his stable of girls. Don't bother sharing with him. Although I am sure he is looking for new workers.Thanks for your remind. Actually, I don't mind if someone is pushing his girls too much. Just want to find quality girls at reasonable prices I can afford. If dislike, just get the girls home.
I think the 1200-1500 girls you mentioned in your previous posting must be great, but I can not afford it, to be honest. And I dislike having FS in their apartments as it's a bit rushed and unsafe, more or less. I prefer to have it in my own apartment instead.
So would you kind enough to share some of your escort contacts with me? They charge 500-600 RMB per hour. Thank you very much.
Stopped by the Pig & Whistle the past few nights around 9pm and it is showing positive signs of returning to its former vigorous self-this, after months of being on life support. Though the girl selection was so-so, it was much better than in recent months (where it was mainly over-the-hill WGs). I suppose this all comes with the Lido Hotel having new management. They seem to be making effort to improve the environment: new couches and coffee tables in one corner, better music (more Maggies-like). If the momentum continues, the Pig & Whistle could once again return to its former glory.
Snake Eyes66
01-13-11, 11:04
Stopped by the Pig & Whistle the past few nights around 9pm and it is showing positive signs of returning to its former vigorous self-this, after months of being on life support. Though the girl selection was so-so, it was much better than in recent months (where it was mainly over-the-hill WGs). I suppose this all comes with the Lido Hotel having new management. They seem to be making effort to improve the environment: new couches and coffee tables in one corner, better music (more Maggies-like). If the momentum continues, the Pig & Whistle could once again return to its former glory.I will be in Beijing next week and usually I stay at Lido, but now it changed from Holiday Inn to something else.
I was out of M for probably my final time as I am leaving the country. Was approached by a pretty suave looking guy that can speak pretty good English about Special bar. Even has his own car. Sadly I am too suspicious of such touts after reading so much about the possibility of dangers from all the forum members. Curious if anyone has been there at all.
Gualtier Malde
01-13-11, 11:29
Special bar is the tool the guy in the back seat will hit you over the head with when you climb into the touts car.
GM.
I was out of M for probably my final time as I am leaving the country. Was approached by a pretty suave looking guy that can speak pretty good English about Special bar. Even has his own car. Sadly I am too suspicious of such touts after reading so much about the possibility of dangers from all the forum members. Curious if anyone has been there at all.
I was out of M for probably my final time as I am leaving the country. Was approached by a pretty suave looking guy that can speak pretty good English about Special bar. Even has his own car. Sadly I am too suspicious of such touts after reading so much about the possibility of dangers from all the forum members. Curious if anyone has been there at all.Right, you're too suspicious, in my opinion.
Special bar is the tool the guy in the back seat will hit you over the head with when you climb into the touts car.
GM. I don't think it might happen to us, although it occured frequently in the movies.
I was out of M for probably my final time as I am leaving the country. Was approached by a pretty suave looking guy that can speak pretty good English about Special bar. Even has his own car. Sadly I am too suspicious of such touts after reading so much about the possibility of dangers from all the forum members. Curious if anyone has been there at all.Val.
It was good seeing you at Maggie's last night. I hope we will have a chance to get together before you head home.
I also got approached by this same guy. The name card says "Special Bar", and the Manager is "Smith". I agree that such a place should be approached with caution. I have heard many first had stories where guys have gone with touts only to get robbed. It might be worth checkiing out the bar in a group. As they say, there is safety in numbers.
If I decide to go out this weekend I'll give it a try and report back.
Sammy
Good to see you again for what might me the last time. I would love to accompany you. Unfortunately I have somewhere to be on Sunday morning and that makes it hard for me to join your excursions. Do write the report. I am sure plenty of people will be reading what our resident expert says.
Val.
It was good seeing you at Maggie's last night. I hope we will have a chance to get together before you head home.
I also got approached by this same guy. The name card says "Special Bar", and the Manager is "Smith". I agree that such a place should be approached with caution. I have heard many first had stories where guys have gone with touts only to get robbed. It might be worth checkiing out the bar in a group. As they say, there is safety in numbers.
If I decide to go out this weekend I'll give it a try and report back.
Sammy
I think I am a pretty normal sized guy. From the looks of photos in here anyway. Maybe less length and more girth than most. At any rate, I have found the Chinese sized condom too small. I always pick up a big pack of Trojan Magnums when I visit the states. I try to get in line behind a hot MILF and drop them on the belt. You get some looks but I have not gotten lucky from it. Yet.
At any rate, I was at one of my favorite massage / bordellos the other day. As is my practice, I brought by own condom and laid it on the bedstand. I have found that doing that short circuits the negotiations. Most of the time the girls just look at it, smile and we don't even have a discussion about money (although the Mamasan may have handled that for me already, since I am a regular). When they do we get that out of the way right away, which I prefer rather than stopping after she has tickled my balls to haggle. Things just proceed as they should.
This time, however, I got quite the different reaction from the new girl. The Magnums are now coming in an extra large package, about double the size of a regular condom. Now they are only a tiny bit bigger, but they put this extra big wrapper on them. She said she could not and ran from the room. I heard her talking to the mamasan that I was just too huge. I looked at the condom and realized it did look like it was designed for a stallion. At any rate, the mamasan calmed her down, brought her back in and made me show her the real thing, which was not so frightening after all. She made it up to me.
I think I am a pretty normal sized guy. From the looks of photos in here anyway. Maybe less length and more girth than most. At any rate, I have found the Chinese sized condom too small. I always pick up a big pack of Trojan Magnums when I visit the states. I try to get in line behind a hot MILF and drop them on the belt. You get some looks but I have not gotten lucky from it. Yet.
At any rate, I was at one of my favorite massage / bordellos the other day. As is my practice, I brought by own condom and laid it on the bedstand. I have found that doing that short circuits the negotiations. Most of the time the girls just look at it, smile and we don't even have a discussion about money (although the Mamasan may have handled that for me already, since I am a regular). When they do we get that out of the way right away, which I prefer rather than stopping after she has tickled my balls to haggle. Things just proceed as they should.
This time, however, I got quite the different reaction from the new girl. The Magnums are now coming in an extra large package, about double the size of a regular condom. Now they are only a tiny bit bigger, but they put this extra big wrapper on them. She said she could not and ran from the room. I heard her talking to the mamasan that I was just too huge. I looked at the condom and realized it did look like it was designed for a stallion. At any rate, the mamasan calmed her down, brought her back in and made me show her the real thing, which was not so frightening after all. She made it up to me. Some useful information such as approximate location, cost, value for money, when, how you found the location. Etc. Etc. Would be useful for newbies, or even oldbies.
Thanks in anticipation.
P13
Nice report, bro worm. That sure made me crack my laugh and smile box for 30 seconds.
The Tanuki
01-15-11, 13:24
Nice report, bro worm. That sure made me crack my laugh and smile box for 30 seconds.I found some in Japan that have a horse logo on the package, and they're called Big Boy. Sure gets a panicked look from girls at first, even Mongolians! Plus they're black which is a somewhat unique color.
Fair skies and following seas to you, Valkyrie. Keep in touch and let us know where you end up.
TT
I am living in Tongzhou and passing the Jingsong Express way often. Have visited one sauna behing the beijing businessmen museum few times with friends but no action. Maybe when I would be alone. Anyway the sauna is very comfortable and there was no intention to find some additional action.
Maybe will find out later.
Definitely things have changed. But I don't think "over" is the right term. Just "changed". Since becoming a resident versus a visitor, I have personally taken to establishing more long term freebie arrangements, using services like AdultFriendFinder to find women interesting in an ongoing thing. For me that has been a real bonanza. I've found single women, married women who need more than they get at home, and even a married man who wants his wife to have a more experienced man to be her lover. I mean, you can't stop sexual expression in China, you can only redirect it.
One of my contacts from the above is a single woman who happens to be a nurse in her regular job. She absolutely loves sex, can't get enough. However, she is a semi-pro. She wants "help" financially, but she is not a pure hooker. She loves the sex a lot, never watches a clock, will go where ever and do whatever you want. I would not normally keep her in my freebie stable, but she's just so damn good at f*cking I can't kick her to the curb.
The women coming from relationships are surprisingly open and wild about sex. I have now had two who not only love doing whatever you might imagine, but both have offered to bring along their girlfriends to participate (both are straight, but like to watch and share). Who am I to say no to that?
Please don't PM me asking for contact information. None of these women would respond to a call out of the blue, and some are in committed relationships requiring much discretion. However, if you are a local resident, and want to join in a threesome with one of my friends, PM me. Please, residents only, and I intend to be highly selective if I do it at all. No promises. Local golfers will get priority, gives me a better cover story with the SO. .
On a change of subject, I have a question for the group. The other day, in a taxi, I was tooling along eastward down Jingsong Expressway, between 4th and 5th ring road. I passed by a place called, strangely, the "Beijing Businessman's Museum", which I have to assume displays collections of old briefcases and manual typewriters.
Anyway, behind that were very large signs on buildings proclaiming one place to be a "Man Spa" and the other a KTV. Question, are these worth checking out? Seems with so much visibility, they must be legit, but you never can tell in China. Comments from the cognoscenti?
GM
Beijing is alive and kicking. Although it takes a little time.
Beijing is full of active women ready for attention and action. However you must be ready for play and little patience. If you like the game and not just going down at it, beijing is a wonderful place.
Just get on dia or badoo and be genuinely interested in real connections, you will receive extraordinary experiences. It is not only about sex but about sharing moments and surely the sex is fantastic as Chinese women need attention and give all what they have when they are given the attention.
Be careful on not giving too many hopes as life in China is different from anywhere else. Be in control but also give. Hopes and dreams are very close to our physicial ambitions and feelings.
Whether 30+ singles or divorcees, just married younger ladies or semi-professionals. All is in the game. But once again understand Chinese culture and society and respect the ladies!
It is a complex game but it is surely worth it!
Bored In Beijing
01-19-11, 03:16
It's been a while since I last posted. Been busy and a bit lazy.
Moved from Beijing a few months ago. Came back to Beijing in December for a couple of nights and stayed in the Lido.
On the first night I went to the Pig rather late, sometime after midnight. Not great pickings but I did get talking to a nice Chinese girl. Took her back to my room for RMB600. Nice body and very nice attitude. Very good experience.
On the second night I did a tour of the neighbourhood and ended up back at the Pig earlier than the previous night. A few girls tried to get my attention. I am afraid to say that some of them should have retired a long time ago. Eventually one good one did attract my interest. Started chatting in Chinese and we seemed to hit it off. She was from Chengdu where I had spent a lot of time and we seemed to have a lot in common. Bought her a drink and she ended up coming back to my room. She said she didn't want any money but I didn't believe that so I thought I would give her RMB700 whatever happened.
Turned into probably one of the best sex experiences of my life. All positions, passionate DFK and a great BBBJ. Really good. When we finished up, she was ready for more but I was too knackered. She asked for money as expected and I handed her RMB700 without a word. No complaints. She gave me her card. A true pro.
FernandoAlonso
01-19-11, 19:21
Guys,
Remember it is spring festival and there is a reason why this forum is suddenly open! That is also why some people are absent here for the moment but we still live and there is a PM system.
Last days there were LE checks in some more frequented and often reported places, which I also tend to visit, so my friends (e. G. From down under) take a little care.
Also flight tickets going North are rare, planes fully packed leave.
Better come back mid / late February and be careful for now.
Best wishes, play safe.
FA
These might be a silly questions but I've never visited a sauna / spa, so here it goes.
1) Is it possible to get JUST a HE at saunas and spas? They just seem more clean and legit than BBS and massage parlors and would be nice to try one out. What would one expect to cash up for that kind of treatment?
2) What constitutes as 'special service'? Is it the same as FS?
Any recommendations for a super-n00b is highly appreciated
Cheers
These might be a silly questions but I've never visited a sauna / spa, so here it goes.
1) Is it possible to get JUST a HE at saunas and spas? They just seem more clean and legit than BBS and massage parlors and would be nice to try one out. What would one expect to cash up for that kind of treatment?
2) What constitutes as 'special service'? Is it the same as FS?
Any recommendations for a super-n00b is highly appreciated
Cheers"Special Services" is anything above a straight massage. If a sauna offers special services, the cheapest option is typically the "oil massage" which includes a "happy ending". Happy ending means a hand job. Whatever massage that is the most expensive on the menu will include full sex, but again this is not offered at every sauna. There is nothing worse than booking the full sauna package, anticipating sex, only to get a massage (albeit probably a good one). It is always best to ask. After you enter the sauna and have taken your shower and soaked in the hot tub, ask the attendant where to go for a massage. He will give you some pajamas and point you in the right direction. You will then be taken to a massage room. If there is a bed in it, you might be in luck. If it has an official looking massage table you might still be able to get a hand job, but probably not full sex. Once in the room someone will come and ask you what you want. You will just be you and this person in the room, so you are free to ask what services they provide. Believe me, even if they do not offer special services they will have been asked the question many times in the past, so don't be afraid of offending them. After you decide what massage you want they will send in a girl. If you don't like her you can asked for someone else. This can be tough becuase you probably don't want to hurt her feelings, but trust me, these girls get selected / rejected several times a day. You can also ask to see a lineup of all of the available girls. Keep in mind that there are often 3 different sets of girls. One group does only the straight massage, another will do massage and hand jobs, and the last group will do full sex. This is why sometimes you may see some super cute girl in the hallway, but then when it comes time for the lineup she is not there. She may be a straight massage girl, but you are only being presented the full sex massage girls.
If you select a straight massage, and then decide she is cute and you want a handjob or sex, it is unlikely that she will do anyting but massage. On the flip side, if you select full sex then the girl really will not do any type of massage. She will just get right down to business.
I think the oil massage / happy ending option is the best value at a sauna. Normally the full sex option is twice the price of the oil massage, but the experience is not twice as good. With the oil massage you will get a good relaxing massage, and then a nice release.
In all there cases, at the end there is no need to tip the girl. She will have you sign a receipt for the services she provided, and you pay when you exit the sauna.
Hope this helps.
Sammy
Sebastian My
01-22-11, 01:38
Guys,
Remember it is spring festival and there is a reason why this forum is suddenly open! That is also why some people are absent here for the moment but we still live and there is a PM system.
Last days there were LE checks in some more frequented and often reported places, which I also tend to visit, so my friends (e. G. From down under) take a little care.
Also flight tickets going North are rare, planes fully packed leave.
Better come back mid / late February and be careful for now.
Best wishes, play safe.
FAIts ironic that that this forum is more useful when its closed. Its coming up to CNY and there is always some type of crack down going on, so beware and use the PM facility for any details.
I have been doing my bit to assist the absent at Hollywood. Or Hollywood is absent is more apt. Business model and it really seems like its in some type of death spiral. A lack of providers means a lack of customers, which means laowai providers are less likely to venture over and so the death spiral continues. While this time of year is normally very quiet I have never seem the place so empty this month. A group of 4 lady gaga's are all that is left of the round eye laowais, a small group of northern sisters and "stans sisters", as well as a splattering of pseudo Koreans. But I have many fond memories of the old place and will do my bit to assist, but I have a bad feeling. (Note : Cover charge has gone up to RM60)
Chocolates seems to be doing well, as is maggies. I actually like the small bar at the back, for some reason its more comfortable and friendly. With all the comments about the pig I may venture north / east in the next few days to check it out.
Take care and have a happy (or is it merry) Chinese New Year.
Sebastian My
01-22-11, 01:51
Right, you're too suspicious, in my opinion.
I don't think it might happen to us, although it occured frequently in the movies. While we may not get a special bar in this manner, always avoid touts and offers too good to be true. My mate from Harbin (male) came down to beijing for a shopping (sic) expedition last November and for some reason that defies my imagination took a cheap private taxi from the railway station. Next thing he knew a 2nd guy jumped in and they drove off the a place where he got fleeced, lost everything, luggage, watch, ticket home, wallet, etc. (That what what he told me. I strong suspect the real story was slightly different and possibly involved special service and baby oil, but then I am a suspicious type) Anyway, next thing I know I got a call at mid-day at my apartments from security saying some guy wanted to speak with me. Once I worked out who it was I told him he was an idiot, gave him the fare back home and dropped him off the railway station to explain how he lost everything to his wife.
While almost all my mates from Singapore have been ripped off at some time in Beijing going to special KTV's, I have never had any locals affected, so I was surprised. So, always be careful and never follow touts.
While we may not get a special bar in this manner, always avoid touts and offers too good to be true. My mate from Harbin (male) came down to beijing for a shopping (sic) expedition last November and for some reason that defies my imagination took a cheap private taxi from the railway station.For cheap private taxis, do you mean unmarked vehicles, private cars? Cars that don't have any meters for fares? Cars that don't look like taxis? What are the most common colors for taxis in Beijing? I might be in Beijing in two month or so....Thanks.
All the taxis in Beijing are clearly marked, usually green / yellow. Don't worry about the color, you will for sure know it's a taxi. Just make sure the driver flips the meter when you start driving. The cheap private taxis are called "hei che", meaning black car. They are just normal cars or normal cars with a red light stuck on the dash or whatever. If you're not from here it's better not to take them. They're not cheap unless you bargin. If you get in a taxi with normal markings you don't have to worry about it. All taxis start at 10 rmb in the daytime, start at 11 rmb at late hours. Cheap.
ShinichiOta
01-23-11, 11:55
As you said, it's crucial to make sure they flip the meter. When in the more touristy areas, I've found that a lot of them want 100 RMB to drive you if you're planning to go a long distance. This has happened to be multiple times in Wangfujing, which is about a 50 RMB cab ride from where I stay in Haidian. I've noticed though that only the drivers waiting outside their parked taxis will try to pull this on you. So, make sure you hail a cab that's driving on the street, and avoid the parked ones.
Does anyone know anything about the Beijing Tai Yue Suites. 16 South Sanlitun Street? Friendly? Local area? Seem reasonable and an interesting alternative. But I don't know much about the area other than its proximity to other Maggies and the Den.
Thanks
Did my last tour of duty around Beijing on Saturday. Goodbye Beijing. Hope to be back again. Thanks for all senior's help and unmentionables.
FernandoAlonso
01-25-11, 05:26
Did my last tour of duty around Beijing on Saturday. Goodbye Beijing. Hope to be back again. Thanks for all senior's help and unmentionables.Save trip home my friend, hope you can be back one day and thank you for all the fun we had together, we will miss you here.
FA
Anyone tried a girl from craigslist?
Seems the easiest thing to do.
ShinichiOta
01-26-11, 06:59
Anyone tried a girl from craigslist?
Seems the easiest thing to do.That's certainly an option, but be prepared to pay the price. Twice I've use CL girls, and they always start out quoting huge amounts of money for full service, in the area of around 4000 RMB. Both times I was able to talk them down to 1000, but I didn't feel their service was worth the price.
I've managed to get a number of bar girls to come back with me for 1000, and their service was much better.
While we may not get a special bar in this manner, always avoid touts and offers too good to be true. My mate from Harbin (male) came down to beijing for a shopping (sic) expedition last November and for some reason that defies my imagination took a cheap private taxi from the railway station. Next thing he knew a 2nd guy jumped in and they drove off the a place where he got fleeced, lost everything, luggage, watch, ticket home, wallet, etc. (That what what he told me. I strong suspect the real story was slightly different and possibly involved special service and baby oil, but then I am a suspicious type) Anyway, next thing I know I got a call at mid-day at my apartments from security saying some guy wanted to speak with me. Once I worked out who it was I told him he was an idiot, gave him the fare back home and dropped him off the railway station to explain how he lost everything to his wife.
While almost all my mates from Singapore have been ripped off at some time in Beijing going to special KTV's, I have never had any locals affected, so I was surprised. So, always be careful and never follow touts. You had better not keep any of your personal things but some cash with you while deciding to take action. It's okey for me every time. But thanks for the warning.
Do I get old and start glorifying the good ol'times, or do you also notice a declining service mentality of our Mongolian providers?
Of course there are still many providers with impeccable attitudes, but it happens more and more frequently, that we agree on LT until the next morning, go home, have sex for 15-30 minutes until the girl tells me that she is tired and wants to sleep. OK, I think, these girls have a tiring job, and we can still have another round after some sleep. In the morning, the girl suddenly jumps out of the bed telling me that she has to leave immediately for some urgent business (e. g. shopping with a friend) and that she is very sorry that she cannot stay longer. Of course she is expecting to be paid for LT, although I effectively got ST.
Last night, I explicitly agreed on LT with 2 rounds for 1500 with a girl, that I had once before and that gave me a good time then. This time, however, it unfolded exactly as described: 20 min sex and no sex at all in the morning. I told her that I consider this not line with our agreement and gave her only 1200 instead of the agreed 1500. She started a big scene telling me I am not keeping our agreement and that her usual rates are 1500 for ST and 3000 LT (yeah, start dreaming!). I threw her out of my apartment wondering what had gone wrong here.
I also encounter more and more price negotiations, which were the exception 4-5 years ago. When I discuss this with the girls, I often hear that they have to do this, as they have more and more customers not paying according to their expectations. I am a frequent visitors to Maggies and am always paying the usual rates (1000 for ST and 1500 for LT) , but it seems that this does not prevent me from such negotiations.
Do you observe similar things recently?
OldAsiaHand
01-30-11, 16:30
Do I get old and start glorifying the good ol'times, or do you also notice a declining service mentality of our Mongolian providers?
Of course there are still many providers with impeccable attitudes, but it happens more and more frequently, that we agree on LT until the next morning, go home, have sex for 15-30 minutes until the girl tells me that she is tired and wants to sleep. OK, I think, these girls have a tiring job, and we can still have another round after some sleep. In the morning, the girl suddenly jumps out of the bed telling me that she has to leave immediately for some urgent business (e. G. Shopping with a friend) and that she is very sorry that she cannot stay longer. Of course she is expecting to be paid for LT, although I effectively got ST.
Last night, I explicitly agreed on LT with 2 rounds for 1500 with a girl, that I had once before and that gave me a good time then. This time, however, it unfolded exactly as described: 20 min sex and no sex at all in the morning. I told her that I consider this not line with our agreement and gave her only 1200 instead of the agreed 1500. She started a big scene telling me I am not keeping our agreement and that her usual rates are 1500 for ST and 3000 LT (yeah, start dreaming!). I threw her out of my apartment wondering what had gone wrong here.
I also encounter more and more price negotiations, which were the exception 4-5 years ago. When I discuss this with the girls, I often hear that they have to do this, as they have more and more customers not paying according to their expectations. I am a frequent visitors to Maggies and am always paying the usual rates (1000 for ST and 1500 for LT) , but it seems that this does not prevent me from such negotiations.
Do you observe similar things recently? Hendrik,
I am by no means a regular at Maggies but I do get in there whenever I am in Beijing. I have also noticed a big change in attitude and increased hard negotiations over the years. Used to be, you knew the price and paid it. Now, they start out quoting riduculous money e. G as much as 3, 000. And, IMHO, the service quality is deteriorating both physically and mentally. I used to say that I never had bad service from a Mongolian but that is not the case anymore. I did find a couple of bad apples on my last 2 visits.
Just my POV.
OAH
Bad Boy Billy
01-30-11, 21:21
Do I get old and start glorifying the good ol'times, or do you also notice a declining serviceAbsolutely 100%
I also encounter more and more price negotiations, which were the exception 4-5 years ago. When I discuss this with the girls, I often hear that they have to do this, as they have more and more customers not paying according to their expectations. I am a frequent visitors to Maggies and am always paying the usual rates (1000 for ST and 1500 for LT) , but it seems that this does not prevent me from such negotiations.........Do you observe similar things recently?Have noticed this for past 6 months or so. Had a terrible response from my best double header duo last time in Beijing. After 5 repeat daytime liaisons with these 2. Each time at RMB1,000ea for 2 hours 2 shots. They rejected my standard invitation and demanded RMB1,500ea. Told them to go get fucked. Saw one in Maggies later that night and bought ALL the girls around her multiple drinks but did not buy her one drink. W.hore.
I am by no means a regular at Maggies but I do get in there whenever I am in Beijing. I have also noticed a big change in attitude and increased hard negotiations over the years. Used to be, you knew the price and paid it. Now, they start out quoting riduculous money e. G as much as 3, 000. And, IMHO, the service quality is deteriorating both physically and mentally. I used to say that I never had bad service from a Mongolian but that is not the case anymore. I did find a couple of bad apples on my last 2 visits.IMHO the legend of Maggies is just about dead. Just about DEAD.
Attitudes have hardened significantly and I believe the whole Maggies experience has deteriorated significantly post the pre-Olympics close down.
I believe the the fact that there is no longer that continual coming and going of fresh new talent which was previously so easy for the Mongol students looking to do 2 to 3 weeks in Beijing. The customer base has been decimated by GFC. Now the same bunch of hardened / past their use by date w.hores are trying to maintain the income levels they were accustomed to before by increasing prices - decreasing time and performance to a decreasing pool of potential customers.
I no longer look forward to Beijing / Maggies visits like I did. I now try to avoid Beijing wherever possible. I basically no longer post in this thread because I rarely come to Beijing now and IMHO there is nothing much worth posting.
Again IMHO the legend of Maggies is just about DEAD.
The Tanuki
01-31-11, 11:33
I believe the the fact that there is no longer that continual coming and going of fresh new talent which was previously so easy for the Mongol students looking to do 2 to 3 weeks in Beijing. The customer base has been decimated by GFC. Now the same bunch of hardened / past their use by date w. Hores are trying to maintain the income levels they were accustomed to before by increasing prices. Decreasing time and performance to a decreasing pool of potential customers.
I no longer look forward to Beijing / Maggies visits like I did. I now try to avoid Beijing wherever possible. I basically no longer post in this thread because I rarely come to Beijing now and IMHO there is nothing much worth posting.
Again IMHO the legend of Maggies is just about DEAD. Nice to spend my 400th post responding to BBB again. Thought you'd fallen into a trap in Angeles or something, mate! Good to hear from you!
As I've been hanging with a steady woman, I have not been hunting at M's in quite some time, merely watching the scenes unfold there. What I see is that mostly nobody is buying, hence you have a decrease in new sellers. There does seem to be a number of guys who are more than happy to shower attention and bottles of liquor on the M's girls, which surprises me. Anyhow, it's a conundrum because until the guys who pay start to do so, the ladies who sell will evaporate to other clubs and other cities. But many of the guys want the real young ones and those are just not available at M's. C'est la vie.
At any rate, I still enjoy the music there, and it's still a great place to drink and watch people.
TT
Anyone tried ChinBro's escort service yet? Or have another one to recommend? PM'ed ChinBro a few days ago but looks like he hasn't been online in a while.
Since I'm a newbie here, I would like to share a good escort service contact with brothers here. Hope it's useful to you.
I got the contact from one of my good friends several days ago. I've called two hottest girls already. They're really wonderful.
The girls there charge RMB 600 for one hour, and 1500 for overnight.
I have not been to Beijing since late November but I will be back in February. I was at M's and there are a few girls asking ridiculous prices but I took out a couple of girls I knew and gave them 1000 in the morning and they were happy. I think 1000 is still the price for the regulars. I have a couple girls that I regulary see every 3 months and they are happy with 1000. I think there are new guys going there and paying 1500 and the girls will gladly take a higher fee. I will be in BJ this month so I will see for myself.
This overpaying situation was clear to me 2 years ago and I was flamed when I said it then.
People not thinking things through and not doing a correct comparison is the problem. Most office grls in China get paid around 6, 000RMB per month. Most office girls in Western countries get paid around $3, 000 per month. Most office girls in Mongolia (if they can even get a job) get around 4, 000RMB equivalent per month. Paying a Mongolian girl 1, 500RMB is like paying a girl in a Western country $1, 000.
Maggies is dead but its been dead for years now. Ever since the price went up from 600RMB. I only ever saw one decent looking girl in there although admittedly I rarely went there because the place was a joke. Pay way over the odds and wait around until 2am to get any action. Talk about dictating terms!
FernandoAlonso
02-01-11, 09:24
Funny,
I also rarely go there but had some of the most amazing nights of my life with Mongolian girls and never ever negotiated or even talked about price, not one runner. Never paid more than1000 discretely in the morning and without prior consent they never left before a nice joint breakfast. The key is how you treat them. I could repeat all I wanted, as much as that I got preferential status aka they skipped other appointments for me.
True is nevertheless we live in a crackdown and a economical crisis and finding real quality is now a matter of a private phonelist. The few left stunners have all become captive, they never show up in the convent again anymore which does not necessarily mean they are not available but all related to p4p has become more hidden and expensive in Beijing, this is also what you see concerning the Northern sisters. This is the harsh reality of a developping China! But as said with some effort gems still can be found and enjoyed! Agreed with my mates paying 1500 plus for an average Mongolian is plainly stupid IMHO but happens quite frequently and why should the girls say no? This is a free market and some idiots pay even 2000 to 3000, so of course prices go up! 600 rmb is gone a long time, same like paying a dollar for a gallon regular.
Just my two cents.
FA.
This overpaying situation was clear to me 2 years ago and I was flamed when I said it then.
People not thinking things through and not doing a correct comparison is the problem. Most office grls in China get paid around 6, 000RMB per month. Most office girls in Western countries get paid around $3, 000 per month. Most office girls in Mongolia (if they can even get a job) get around 4, 000RMB equivalent per month. Paying a Mongolian girl 1, 500RMB is like paying a girl in a Western country $1, 000.
Maggies is dead but its been dead for years now. Ever since the price went up from 600RMB. I only ever saw one decent looking girl in there although admittedly I rarely went there because the place was a joke. Pay way over the odds and wait around until 2am to get any action. Talk about dictating terms!
El Frances
02-01-11, 10:34
This overpaying situation was clear to me 2 years ago and I was flamed when I said it then.
Maggies is dead but its been dead for years now. Ever since the price went up from 600RMB. I only ever saw one decent looking girl in there although admittedly I rarely went there because the place was a joke. Pay way over the odds and wait around until 2am to get any action. Talk about dictating terms! I agree with you
Beijing Fox
02-02-11, 10:53
Interesting to read the reactions to Hendrik's post.
I have not been a proactive visitor / client to Maggie's since the Olympics. So I cannot comment on the current situation, but I was a 'regular' (= 2-3 times a week) before the Olympics.
When the problems started, I happened to find a steady 'solution', which is still ongoing.
Already then, there were a couple of bad apples, initially asking for 2, 000 etc. In advance and then leaving after the first shot. However those bad experiences were always compensated by other stellar ones.
If those are not longer to have, then really, Maggie's is dead.
RIP.
I agree with you
Interesting to read the reactions to Hendrik's post.I am also surprised that many of you make similar experiences. I was probably hoping that it was just me making bad choices or having bad luck during the last months.
... had some of the most amazing nights of my life with Mongolian girls and never ever negotiated or even talked about price, not one runner. Never paid more than1000 discretely in the morning and without prior consent they never left before a nice joint breakfast. The key is how you treat them. I could repeat all I wanted, as much as that I got preferential status aka they skipped other appointments for me.That's exactly what I am missing!
Anyhow, it's a conundrum because until the guys who pay start to do so, the ladies who sell will evaporate to other clubs and other cities. But many of the guys want the real young ones and those are just not available at M's. C'est la vie.
At any rate, I still enjoy the music there, and it's still a great place to drink and watch people. I also hear complaints from the older girls that times have changed and the business is not as it used to be. On the other hand, Maggies is still packed at least during the week-ends, and I do see girls regularly leaving with male company throughout the night.
I am just wondering if there is not a way to stop this downward spiral by supporting the good girls and not paying attention to the others ones. I am not suggesting to explicitly start mentioning names again on this board on order to protect the girls, but if all of us started giving clear feedback to the girls on pricing and performance, I am sure that it would quickly make the round amongst the different tribes and eventually force them re-think their business model.
I would hate to see Maggies just becoming a nice bar with great music, that is open until 5am.
Bad Boy Billy
02-02-11, 22:10
Clearly a number of brothers have similar feelings about Maggies. But I would like to clarify the point I tried to make in my original post.
I never said MAGGIES was almost dead. I said the LEGEND of Maggies was almost dead.
I have NEVER had a bad experience with a Mongolian. I do not subscribe to this bullshit theory that you never ask price as price is understood. Crap. Never EVER in my life have I ever engaged the services of a w.hore without 100% clarification of what price and level of service will be provided. And if said level of service is not forthcoming then level of payment may well be revised. Economis 101. And the Mongols are smart enough to understand this.
When I first started going to Maggies it was RMB500. Then RMB600. Then RMB800. And now RMB1, 000. 500 and 600 rates were in old Maggies. If you are not a long standing visitor to Maggies having been to both old and new Maggies pre-Olympics - then you may not understand the thrust of my post.
Pre-Olympics at both M1 and M2 there was a month by month continual turnover in supply of fresh young Mongol students coming and going for 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 week periods to earn a few sheckels for their studies. These were genuine 'part timers'. They would offer a level of fresh enthusistic service that I had experienced nowhere else in the world. And they were intelligent. The whole experience was unique.
Come the Olympic crack down and the freedom to easliy visit, easily find customers, easily ply their new found trade was swept away from these girls. And hence so did the supply of girls coming into town. What we were then left with was basically the same talent pool - who have been progressively getting older and older by the year. And some of them were well past their use by dates pre-Olympic period IMHO.
So whilst Maggies still does exist and prosper to some extent. My view of the 'Legend of Maggies' is DEAD. That is I cannot visit every 6 or 8 weeks and find a fresh young talent supply ready to please - many of whom I would never see again - rather I am confronted by the same old line up of 'town bikes' visit after visit after visit.
I have no problem paying RMB1,000 at the drop of a hat. I happily pay RMB1,500 for a superstar. Hell I paid RMB2,000 in November for a certain superstar who I have wanted to peg for quite some time. But I really get disappointed if I have to settle for the same old tired line-up of 'matress workers' and no choice of a sweet young new thing.
I will be back in BJ maybe late this month - definitely late March - and I will definitely be trawling Maggies nightly. But IMHO this is now Maggies 3. God I miss Maggies 1 a Maggies 2.
DavidCanada1979
02-03-11, 11:54
I agree with this 100, hard to get value (even in China) when the starting rates are now $1000 RMB.
Clearly a number of brothers have similar feelings about Maggies. But I would like to clarify the point I tried to make in my original post.
I never said MAGGIES was almost dead. I said the LEGEND of Maggies was almost dead.
I have NEVER had a bad experience with a Mongolian. I do not subscribe to this bullshit theory that you never ask price as price is understood. Crap. Never EVER in my life have I ever engaged the services of a w. Hore without 100% clarification of what price and level of service will be provided. And if said level of service is not forthcoming then level of payment may well be revised. Economis 101. And the Mongols are smart enough to understand this.
When I first started going to Maggies it was RMB500. Then RMB600. Then RMB800. And now RMB1, 000. 500 and 600 rates were in old Maggies. If you are not a long standing visitor to Maggies having been to both old and new Maggies pre-Olympics. Then you may not understand the thrust of my post.
Pre-Olympics at both M1 and M2 there was a month by month continual turnover in supply of fresh young Mongol students coming and going for 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 week periods to earn a few sheckels for their studies. These were genuine 'part timers'. They would offer a level of fresh enthusistic service that I had experienced nowhere else in the world. And they were intelligent. The whole experience was unique.
Come the Olympic crack down and the freedom to easliy visit, easily find customers, easily ply their new found trade was swept away from these girls. And hence so did the supply of girls coming into town. What we were then left with was basically the same talent pool. Who have been progressively getting older and older by the year. And some of them were well past their use by dates pre-Olympic period IMHO.
So whilst Maggies still does exist and prosper to some extent. My view of the 'Legend of Maggies' is DEAD. That is I cannot visit every 6 or 8 weeks and find a fresh young talent supply ready to please. Many of whom I would never see again. Rather I am confronted by the same old line up of 'town bikes' visit after visit after visit.
I have no problem paying RMB1, 000 at the drop of a hat. I happily pay RMB1, 500 for a superstar. Hell I paid RMB2, 000 in November for a certain superstar who I have wanted to peg for quite some time. But I really get disappointed if I have to settle for the same old tired line-up of 'matress workers' and no choice of a sweet young new thing.
I will be back in BJ maybe late this month. Definitely late March. And I will definitely be trawling Maggies nightly. But IMHO this is now Maggies 3. God I miss Maggies 1 a Maggies 2.
Since the quality and service at Maggie's is being discussed.
I've visited BJ twice in the past year, the first time visiting Maggie's but not partaking in any services; the second time indulging twice. Once mediocre and once the quintessential "Mongolian treatment" with a lovely slightly older woman who stayed all night, had breakfast with me, and never discussed $$. Even with such limited experience I do get the sentiment of the current discussions; I've been in Maggie's maybe 4 or 5 times in those two visits and I've never been knocked out by the available talent. Still, I quite like the setup, and therein lies my question:
I have an upcoming short visit to China which is more or less completely open in terms of where I go (I'm meeting up with my S. O. Who will be in Eastern China on business, but before I meet her I'm planning a few days somewhere else). What are some other cities that have clubs like Maggie's and The Pig? I'm not at all into BBS, and KTV I think is out for a non-native laowei with essentially zero Mandarin. I really enjoy the atmosphere of a bar where I can get easy take out if something tickles my fancy, but where I can just drink at semi-reasonable prices in peace if that's the way my night is going.
Any thoughts or suggestions for other destinations with WG clubs? I know HK and Shanghai are possibilities, but I've been to both cities (though with the S. O. So haven't partaken in extracurriculars) and I'd like to visit somewhere new. Also I think both of those options are going to be top-shelf in terms of $$$, more than even BJ I suspect.
Many thanks in advance!
Bad Boy Billy
02-04-11, 04:01
I have an upcoming short visit to China which is more or less completely open in terms of where I go ........Any thoughts or suggestions for other destinations with WG clubs?.........I know HK and Shanghai are possibilities, but I've been to both cities and I'd like to visit somewhere new.IMHO. For non-Chinese speaking Western guys who want the bar type pick-up scene then only SH and BJ offer this. SH has Manhattan, Judys, Bar Rouge, Revolution, Luna (Xin Tian Di in general) , Zapatas, old Bourbon St whatever it is called now etc.
BJ has Maggies, Chocolate, Pig, Hollywood, Den, Suzy Wongs etc.
IMHO very little price difference between SH and BJ. Major bar in both cities - Manhattan in Sh and Maggies in BJ the w.hores want RMB1, 000 ea - Viets in SH. Mongols in BJ.
YES YES many other breeds available - Ruskies in both SH and BJ want RMB2,000+ LT.
Jsxyz I assume you are a take out / take back to your hotel type of guy?
I know of no other city that will give you a number of pick-up options from open FL bar types of outlets. Dongguan in south mainly take out from BBS no on site drinks etc.
Does that help? I often find myself in similar situation. 2 or 3 nights where I can go where I please. Tianjin was good 5 to 8 years ago. Nanjing was good 5 to 8 years ago. Alas now seems only SH or BJ.
IMHO. For non-Chinese speaking Western guys who want the bar type pick-up scene then only SH and BJ offer this. SH has Manhattan, Judys, Bar Rouge, Revolution, Luna (Xin Tian Di in general) , Zapatas, old Bourbon St whatever it is called now etc.
Does that help? I often find myself in similar situation. 2 or 3 nights where I can go where I please. Tianjin was good 5 to 8 years ago. Nanjing was good 5 to 8 years ago. Alas now seems only SH or BJ. Thanks BBB, that does help. I guess I'll reconsider SH. It's an easy direct cheap flight from the west coast of USA where I'm coming from, so that's another point in its favor. Also my SO will be just down the coast a bit south so easier to meet up with here when my playtime is over. I was only in SH briefly one time last year and didn't much care for the general atmosphere, too "Western" if that makes sense. But traveling alone with no putonghua skills, I guess that might be a good thing!
Bad Boy Billy
02-05-11, 04:02
Thanks BBB, that does help.....................I was only in SH briefly one time last year and didn't much care for the general atmosphere, too "Western" if that makes sense. But traveling alone with no putonghua skills, I guess that might be a good thing!OK if you don't care too much for SH and you want to have a crack at DG / CP then don't be too fussed.
I speak only 10 words of Chinese. There are some great guys get to CP regularly. They will take you in like a long lost brother.
Drop BSD (BigSwinginDave) a pm and he will help you out. I have only been to CP twice but it is unique. You don't need english. Just need common sense. This might be an alternative for you.
Since the quality and service at Maggie's is being discussed.
Any thoughts or suggestions for other destinations with WG clubs? I know HK and Shanghai are possibilities, but I've been to both cities (though with the S. O. So haven't partaken in extracurriculars) and I'd like to visit somewhere new. Also I think both of those options are going to be top-shelf in terms of $$$, more than even BJ I suspect.
Many thanks in advance! I would echo BBB's comments. Shanghai can be a very "Western" city, and there are a lot of Chinese gals that have fair to good English skills in SH. The large majority of the WG's in SH that work in the clubs that cater to laowei are of some heritage other than Chinese.
If you only have 2-3 days, and want to have access to a large sample of the "native" gals, I wouldn't miss Chang Ping. It is a venerable male playground and the pricing is reasonable as well. There are literally 1000's of gals that work in the entertainment industry in one form or the other, and it is an easy trip from Shenzhen, Hong Kong, or Guangzhou. Big Swinging Dave is an excellent host, and my personal experiences with his hospitality are top notch. There is also one of the best spa's I have ever visited in C. P. To recover and recharge oneself in preparation for the next event. I will warn you however, it can become a bit addictive. I regularly go to C. P. Alone, and have always enjoyed the visit. Best of luck, enjoy the trip and make sure you take a moment to report your findings!
BBB, good to "see" you back!
Sky
Bad Boy Billy
02-06-11, 22:10
Advice please guys. There is a chance I will arrive BJ approx 7am late this month. Thought I might head straight to The Den for brekky and Bloody Mary or 2.
What is the latest / earliest you guys have been in The Den and spotted the tail end of the previous nights Maggies shift also enjoying some late night food and drinks?
The Tanuki
02-07-11, 01:54
What is the latest / earliest you guys have been in The Den and spotted the tail end of the previous nights Maggies shift also enjoying some late night food and drinks?I've been there as late as 6 am and seen some leftovers. That was in the warm time of year. It might be different in winter. ?
TT
Bad Boy Billy
02-07-11, 23:48
Any of you guys know if fake Blue Ray Discs are available? If yes. Quality?
Just a quick note. I just had five months teaching in beijing and used Angels escort service three times. Each time the girls were top rate, the price very reasonable and Angels organisation and service very professional and well organised. Each of the girls was young (maybe early twenties) and very pretty and all gave very nice bbbj with nice GFE style. The only slight disappointment was that none wanted CIM. Predictably they did not let me take any pics.
It was very easy to meet "normal" girls in Beijing. Most wanted a relationship / Western hubbie, but also quite a few just wanted short term fun. One funny, but disappointing, experience was a very classy and attractive girl I met in a coffee shop. She was working on her computer and kept smiling at me. She looked very keen until I told her I was a teacher, and then her face fell and she was no longer interested. I guess she either wanted a sugar daddy or a high status guy to show off to her friends.
It was very easy to meet Chinese girls on the net. I did waste some time and some cash on one WL who I met on the net. She had a pic of some twenty something model and assured me it was her real pic. In reality she was mid thirties and looked pretty hard and tough. Not so attractive. She pigged out at lunch ordering expensive dishes and then after lunch tried to hit me for 1000rmb to take me back to her flat because she really liked f! Ing. Probably true, and she had that horny slutty look about her, but would only do CBJ (I like BBBJ) and was very aggressive. I said no to her and she kept lowering her rate down to 500rmb, but I still said no. Her aggressiveness and BS put me right off.
If anyone would like to see her, just PM me and I'll give you her name on the website so you can contact her directly. The little fellow tells me it could be a full-on experience; my brain tells me she's a crazy BS lady to avoid.
One thing I was disappointed with was the closure of the sauna places. I went to a big one a few years ago in BJ and it was the ultimate relaxation and pleasure. I hope one day they reopen. As long as they're not controlled by the crooks and are legit businesses that treat their workers properly, then I can't see why they should be closed.
It's amazing how badly a lot of the workers are treated. The students from my college were only getting paid (from memory) something like 60 or 70rmb a day for all day hard work, getting yelled at by the bosses and rude customers and put into the sort of accommodation that us Western softies could not handle.
Overall I enjoyed my time in BJ and learnt a lot and met quite a few very nice people (I also saw a lot of real low life too). But I really need to put in some time to learn the language to get more out of that amazing country.
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Overall I enjoyed my time in BJ and learnt a lot and met quite a few very nice people (I also saw a lot of real low life too). But I really need to put in some time to learn the language to get more out of that amazing country. Great report, Victorian.
Yes, China is an AMAZING country. And ... yes ... (and this is the ultimate incentive) the more language you know, the bigger the pool of freebie talent you can access. And the more fun and pleasure. Not to mention "self development".
I speak from e*x*p*e*r*i*e*n*c*e!
Message to all the bruvvers: keep practising your Mandarin (or your Cantonese).
Enjoy China.
P13.
(PS: with the next smiling female in a restaurant. Play a guessing game with her. As a personal reference call it "restaurant poker". Whet her appetitie, and show her your knowledge of putonghua. Even if the occupation isn't congruent, she will be dazzled by your knowledge of the language, self-deprecation, knowledge of Chinese music (or history or art blah blah) , and your soft gentle risque humour! :) :)
ShinichiOta
02-08-11, 08:53
Any of you guys know if fake Blue Ray Discs are available? If yes. Quality?One thing I can tell you is that a lot of DVDs are now being sold in printed paper Blu Ray boxes, so be careful when you're looking.
Just a quick note. I just had five months teaching in beijing and used Angels escort service three times.I am going to Beijing this weekend so I tried to search for Angels escort service. Since I did get several different hits with that name, could you share some more information, like website or phone number? Also it would be good if you could say something about the price level.
Angel has also advertised her services in the classified section of this China forum. All the girls I saw were very nice and educated, more the sort of girl you see in the street and think what a honey. Angel is also very professional and reliable. Nice also to give the girl a little tip after.
The line "no extra charges" is a bit misleading. In addition to the 500rmb you also have to pay "taxi fare" which is actually a set fee for the minder's car.
I noticed that Angel's number and website address were removed from her post with the instruction from the moderator to PM a member or Angel directly if you want it.
Perhaps you can try messaging Angel directly. If that doesn't work, PM me and I'll give you her number.
Enjoy.
Angel's latest ad was:
Originally Posted by Angel Lui
My name is Angel. I am a 22 years old gal living in Beijing. If you're visiting Beijing and wondering how to spend your time here, I can help you with a memorable evening that is filled with fun, excitement and passion. You can hire any of my friends for hotel massage, dinner dating, sight seeing, private party, private dance, etc.
All my friends are below 25 years old. They are good looking and well-mannered. When you hire them, you can be sure of your personal safety. My friends are simple girls that come from decent background. They are either students or holding day-time jobs, eager to make extra income and at the same time, make new friends.
Our rates are very reasonable. For the first 60 minutes with FULL service, our price is RMB 500 for the Girl-Next-Door, RMB 800 or RMB 1, 000 for Models quality, excluding taxi fare. There are no other extra charges. We also provide overnight packages. If somehow there is no chemistry between you and my friend, you just need to pay for her taxi fare, and we'll get you a replacement right away.
I am going to Beijing this weekend so I tried to search for Angels escort service. Since I did get several different hits with that name, could you share some more information, like website or phone number? Also it would be good if you could say something about the price level.
Member #1604
02-11-11, 04:38
Dear Victorian,
Are Angel girls very beautiful?
Are those pictures (photos) of girls posted in Angel's blog real? I guess they fake pictures.
Please advise.
Thanks.
Member #1604.
Angel has also advertised her services in the classified section of this China forum. All the girls I saw were very nice and educated, more the sort of girl you see in the street and think what a honey. Angel is also very professional and reliable. Nice also to give the girl a little tip after.
The line "no extra charges" is a bit misleading. In addition to the 500rmb you also have to pay "taxi fare" which is actually a set fee for the minder's car.
I noticed that Angel's number and website address were removed from her post with the instruction from the moderator to PM a member or Angel directly if you want it.
Perhaps you can try messaging Angel directly. If that doesn't work, PM me and I'll give you her number.
Enjoy.
Angel's latest ad was:
Originally Posted by Angel Lui
My name is Angel. I am a 22 years old gal living in Beijing. If you're visiting Beijing and wondering how to spend your time here, I can help you with a memorable evening that is filled with fun, excitement and passion. You can hire any of my friends for hotel massage, dinner dating, sight seeing, private party, private dance, etc.
All my friends are below 25 years old. They are good looking and well-mannered. When you hire them, you can be sure of your personal safety. My friends are simple girls that come from decent background. They are either students or holding day-time jobs, eager to make extra income and at the same time, make new friends.
Our rates are very reasonable. For the first 60 minutes with FULL service, our price is RMB 500 for the Girl-Next-Door, RMB 800 or RMB 1, 000 for Models quality, excluding taxi fare. There are no other extra charges. We also provide overnight packages. If somehow there is no chemistry between you and my friend, you just need to pay for her taxi fare, and we'll get you a replacement right away.
All three Angel girls I saw were all very pretty. More the young office lady or sales assistant educated look than the streetwalker type. All looked very clean and were lovely girls, so please be nice to them. They appreciate a tip as well.
I very much doubt the blog pics are the actual girls. Also Angel seems to get quite a few new girls, so unlikely it's the actual girl. Each time I rang, Angel chose the girl. You can, of course, let Angel know what type of girl you like, e. G. Petite or taller.
Enjoy.
Dear Victorian,
Are Angel girls very beautiful?
Are those pictures (photos) of girls posted in Angel's blog real? I guess they fake pictures.
Please advise.
Thanks.
Member #1604.
This might be a very stupid question, but do the girls in Beijing bring protection with them like in Europe? Or do you need to care for that yourself?
Gualtier Malde
02-11-11, 18:19
This might be a very stupid question, but do the girls in Beijing bring protection with them like in Europe? Or do you need to care for that yourself?Whether they bring their own or not, I suggest you supply your own. That way you can be sure of a good fit.
GM
Bad Boy Billy
02-11-11, 22:37
This might be a very stupid question, but do the girls in Beijing bring protection with them like in Europe? Or do you need to care for that yourself?Yes and No. It can be tricky for the girls. Almost 100% Maggies girls will ask you before you leave Maggies do you have condom?
The problem for the girls is that if LE stop them on the street and find them carrying condoms then they can be packed off home.
Funny thing the Russian girls don't seem to have this problem. Hmmm. I might have to fish deeper on that one next visit.
So your answer is. Yes and No. Moot point anyway. You should have a full packet beside your bed anyway. Why bother asking the question?
Don't know you guys success with hotel massage locations. Here is my last stay. Went down to the massage location and asked for and received a foot massage and nail clip. Rather attractive female. 20. 25. No English for her, no Chinese for me. As I left I pointed upstairs and made the sign for a back massage, reached out and gave her a hug She shook her head. She was the only person in the shop. Next day I called the massage number and said massage, in English. Ten minutes later the phone rand and she asked massage. I said yes. Ten minutes after that there was a knock on the door, it was the girl who gave me the foot massage. She carried a pen and scratch paper. She made the motions for a back massage, and wrote 60 on the paper. I shook my head. No, and pointed at her crotch. She wrote 500 on the pad and I shook my head up and down. Pencil and pad on the night table and her arms around my neck, open mouth kissing me. Hey, fine with me, I returned the kiss and let my hands roam. Unsnapped her bra and found a pair of A's, with pencil eraser nipples. Fine with me. She found the joy stick and he was close to ready. Clothes came of and hse lay on the bed, I snuggled and kissed her body down to her hairy pussy. They are all hairy in China. Her reaction up to then wasn't exceptional. When I started licking her pussy she grabbed my hands and held on. Her little ass came off the bed and for 10-15 minutes I drank at the well. Pussy juice, nectar of the gods. Her little ass came up to my mouth and she ground the part she wanted me to suck into my face just grabbing my hands. Near the end she shuddered. When I thought she was done I took her sideways followed by doggies and cowgirl and finished in missionary. She was happy and I was happy and we snuggled. Close to an hour she got up, quick shower and left. I was fucked out. That was very good. I was happy to give her 500. Best fuck I ever had in Beijing. Called her 2 more times before returning to Shanghai. I'll PM name of hotel chain to regulars.
Chingdowman
02-12-11, 03:24
Wow! I have just been reading the reports and the prices I cannot believe. I was going to to Beijing soon but now I am not sure I want to. I have been a visitor to the Pigs at Lido but now I am not sure if I will get value for money. The last time I was there I got LT for 700. Is that still possible do you think? I also took a girl from just around the corner at Cafe Del Mar. I think she was 800, supposedly for LT but after the deed was done she left, which was very disappointing.
Bad Boy Billy
02-12-11, 03:32
I have been a visitor to the Pigs at Lido but now I am not sure if I will get value for money. The last time I was there I got LT for 700. Is that still possible do you think?Yes I have seen some of those Pigs that used to frequent Lido also. RMB700 would be over pricing most of them.
I also took a girl from just around the corner at Cafe Del Mar. I think she was 800, supposedly for LT but after the deed was done she left, which was very disappointing.If she agrees to RMB800 LT and she leaves after 1 shot give her 400/500. You set the terms. She agrees to provide the service for agreed price. She does not deliver. You do not pay. It's not complicated.
I'm used to paying just 40 RMB for HJs in shenzhen BBS. Am about to visit beijing for first time. There's no way I'll get anything like that value, right? Assuming not, what should I expect to pay for a massage / HJ?
Thanks,
Krum
I'm used to paying just 40 RMB for HJs in shenzhen BBS. Am about to visit beijing for first time. There's no way I'll get anything like that value, right? Assuming not, what should I expect to pay for a massage / HJ?
Thanks,
KrumIn beijing, there are many Falangs, usually along the streets, at which you've got a simple massage with happy ending at the price of 100 RMB.
El Frances
02-13-11, 10:58
Dear Victorian,
Are Angel girls very beautiful?
Are those pictures (photos) of girls posted in Angel's blog real? I guess they fake pictures.
Please advise.
Thanks.
Member #1604. Fake for sure, as other similar websites. Don't loose time choosing the gi by pitures with such providers. Try to make them understand exactly the type of girl you want. If you do't like the one they send, send her back.
Yes and No. It can be tricky for the girls. Almost 100% Maggies girls will ask you before you leave Maggies do you have condom?
The problem for the girls is that if LE stop them on the street and find them carrying condoms then they can be packed off home.
Funny thing the Russian girls don't seem to have this problem. Hmmm. I might have to fish deeper on that one next visit.
So your answer is. Yes and No. Moot point anyway. You should have a full packet beside your bed anyway. Why bother asking the question?Most the Chinese girls I had in the past didn't, and so were the Maggie's girls. Tell them if you don't have it in your room, they will ask the taxi driver to swing by the pharmacy (most of them provide 24 hrs window). I don't usually trust the condom they sell in China, may be I am just paranoid, bring your regular, and reliable brand from the US.
Don't know you guys success with hotel massage locations. Here is my last stay. Went down to the massage location and asked for and received a foot massage and nail clip. Rather attractive female. 20. 25. No English for her, no Chinese for me. As I left I pointed upstairs and made the sign for a back massage, reached out and gave her a hug She shook her head. She was the only person in the shop. Next day I called the massage number and said massage, in English. Ten minutes later the phone rand and she asked massage. I said yes. Ten minutes after that there was a knock on the door, it was the girl who gave me the foot massage. She carried a pen and scratch paper. She made the motions for a back massage, and wrote 60 on the paper. I shook my head. No, and pointed at her crotch. She wrote 500 on the pad and I shook my head up and down. Pencil and pad on the night table and her arms around my neck, open mouth kissing me. Hey, fine with me, I returned the kiss and let my hands roam. Unsnapped her bra and found a pair of A's, with pencil eraser nipples. Fine with me. She found the joy stick and he was close to ready. Clothes came of and hse lay on the bed, I snuggled and kissed her body down to her hairy pussy. They are all hairy in China. Her reaction up to then wasn't exceptional. When I started licking her pussy she grabbed my hands and held on. Her little ass came off the bed and for 10-15 minutes I drank at the well. Pussy juice, nectar of the gods. Her little ass came up to my mouth and she ground the part she wanted me to suck into my face just grabbing my hands. Near the end she shuddered. When I thought she was done I took her sideways followed by doggies and cowgirl and finished in missionary. She was happy and I was happy and we snuggled. Close to an hour she got up, quick shower and left. I was fucked out. That was very good. I was happy to give her 500. Best fuck I ever had in Beijing. Called her 2 more times before returning to Shanghai. I'll PM name of hotel chain to regulars.Hi Waldeck2,
Please share the hotel over PM, I visit the capital city quite frequently, the massage place I frequent only offers HJ or boob job, around 500 / hr. . Good to know to found a place to have a good time, Beijing is getting very strict on room service these days, even SN takes regulars only.
My experience w / the Chinese girls are they don't usually allow / enjoy cunnilingus. The 1 that I did on about 2 years showered me with gifts the next day. Literally! .
Cheers,
Staid Lo
This might be a very stupid question, but do the girls in Beijing bring protection with them like in Europe? Or do you need to care for that yourself?Most of the pros will be carrying a condom somewhere. But I almost always bring and use mine own. Most of the girls use local brands, which I would not trust the quality. I always carry a foreign brand one. Even if they are made in China, the quality and QC standard is higher.
Hi all! I am going to be in BJ from tomorrow. Will be around for almost 5days. I would be thankful if ay of the members can guide me to good place. Please PM me if you have any useful advice. Thanks.
WJ massage center inside NE 4th ring road does good to great 90 min oil massage + HJ for rmb 160 plus taxi fare. They do incall or outcall to hotel or apt, have been mentioned on this forum several times. PM me if you need the contact info. The girls are almost always 18 to 25, some GFE, often a bit chubby or baby fat. Usually don't mind groping and a few will titjob / BJ. Let them start the massage then feel out the situation when you flip over. Don't expect it with every girl.
I called the other day and asked for a skinny one and instead they sent over an ex-Sauna girl (I mean was probably a sauna girl back in the 1990s hahaha). So-so massage for about 5 mins then she asked for a cup of warm water. Then it was very nice tit massage, catbath, the most hardcore AR I've ever had, reach-around, lots of ball sucking, and an offer for anal (hers not mine) for RMB 5000. I laughed and she said that's what the koreans pay and I said I'm not korean, she dropped it down to 1000, I kept laughing. At this point she's talking too much so flip to good BBBJ, more AR, more BBBJ. Regular FS usually avail, but not this time of month. Service was excellent but way too talkative. Good shower afterwards and she volunteers to finish up last 10 mins with head and neck massage. Would not RTF but can recommend if you don't mind older lady (mid-upper 30s?) with small frame and bit of a belly.
PM me for her info or other recs from this shop. Any other members here have favorites?
Hi Waldeck2,
Please share the hotel over PM, I visit the capital city quite frequently, the massage place I frequent only offers HJ or boob job, around 500 / hr.
Some actions in the massage / spa in the loong palace hotel or at the auspicious hotel?
Thanks in advance (pm is ok also)
After all the posts on here about Lily's outcall, I found her on msn and let her know what I was looking for: young, skinny, tight little butt, little tits are ok. Freshness is more important than pro. So she says young and pretty, slim and clean. I say yes and send a text message to her phone with my number and that description, tell her I'll call back in the morning to confirm an appt for next day.
In the morning I call her up to set an appointment time. She doesn't remember the conversation from the day before. So go over what I'm looking for one more time in English and Chinese and again send her a text with the description. Tell her any time is ok, just want to make sure she sends someone very fresh and amazing tight body. We settle on 9pm. 600 (500 + 100 "taxi").
8pm girl calls and asks if she can come over early. No prob, arrives at 8:20.
Amy, described elsewhere as "Amy. 24 years is from Sichuan. She is a beautician, pretty face, well groom, petitie, very fair and smooth skin. When you talk to her, you'll notice that she is a bimbo." Fairly accurate, but. Young? No, I'd guess 25 to 29. Slim, skinny tight little butt? Little soft butt and soft tits, not tight and no waist. Fresh and clean? Well groomed but not her first day on the job, would guess she's been working for 1 or 2 years. She is cute and do-able, but not what I'd call young and fresh and tight. I don't want waste more time to change her and to explain to lily in english and Chinese for the 5th time, so decide to keep her after the good reports I remember reading about her on sbf.
Go to shower and she's acting very air-headed and shy. With her doe eyes, curly hair and wide mouth and cleavage, reminds me of a Jewish American Princess I used to do in high school. Well maybe a slightly worn and 10 year older version. DFK, smoky / bitter taste. Get in the shower and the shyness is distracting. I mean if you're fresh from the farm and this is your first laowai I can understand, but this is not the case here. Maybe some guys like the cute act. Mediocre BBBJ and off to the bed. DATY. 69 until dripping (BJ is little better now but not great). Pussy is cute, little and not a lot of hair. One of those "Hi, here it all is" pussies. Cap and missionary. No problem taking it in even though she's a smaller girl. Flip to a couple different positions, she's into it but no initiative on positions or movement or oral. Twister with the legs and she starts gushing when I work the g-spot. She cums on long pulling strokes and clit at same time. I shoot in condom about 8:55. Get up to rinse off and she says she wants to wash-up a bit more, I say no problem I'm on the bed. Comes in the room fully dressed at 9:05 and wearing all her clothes. Says she's going to go now. I said oh really, what time did you get here, she said she doesn't know. I say it was about 8:20, how about relax a while. She sits down on edge of bed wearing all her clothes and says she's going to meet friends. LOL how crazy to ask someone to stay if they want to leave. So tell her she better go if her friends are waiting for her. First time this has ever happened to me in China.
RTF? No. She's cute enough to do as a freebie, but technical ability & service are lacking. And worst is skipping out 15 mins early.
Next day see Lily online and let her know that 25 to 29 is not young, and Amy was not tight body and fresh. She says, oh you like very young, I have a 19 yo, want to try now? LOL no. Then ask her about the leaving 15 mins early. I mean, is 500 for one hour as she advertises or does 500 mean one time leave even in it's 40 mins or 30 mins or 15 mins? She answers if you finish girl leave, next time give you one hour. Too funny.
Repeat with Lily? Most probably not. I was completely clear in my requirements in english and Chinese and made my schedule open. Something else arrives other than what I requested but I don't want to waste more time so I go for it. Ends up being a no RTF. Contact LIly to let her know about the experience and get a bunch of excuses and "oh 500 is for finish and leave", next time will be better. Don't think so, too many other great choices in Beijing.
This was my experience w / Lily, do believe some guys could be very happy with Lily's services and Amy could be just what they're for. In any case thank the other members for their FR and look forward to more reports.
Vincelee76
02-15-11, 08:46
Wow, it seems like you guys are really paying alot of girls.
I was in Shen zhen last year, and I paid 130 RMB for young cute girls per session, which includes everything.
Where are you guys coming with 700 rmb?
Why not go ask local taxi drivers where 100 to 200 rmb ladies are at. Those women who only bang foreingers will always charge you 700 and up. That is just way too much, if you are going to pay that, why not just stay home back in the USA.
El Frances
02-15-11, 10:25
After all the posts on here about Lily's outcall, I found her on msn and let her know what I was looking for: young, skinny, tight little butt, little tits are ok.....Hi,
I can see we have the same taste!
I had this girl once, and it's true nothing special about her, cute but nothing exceptional. Service was also not exceptional. She's rather representative of the girls you can get at Lili's, although it may vary. I had a few gems with her, though, including a girl I took every night for one week. The advantage of Lili's girls is the service, which is very good and often GFE, not the freshness or firmness of the girl (but still OK, as Amy, no ugly girl). Usually this kind of providers take better care of regular customers, but it depends who is available. My experience is that I've been very satisfied in 80% of the cases and for 600 delivered at home I consider it's a good deal.
For your taste, I would rather advise Maria. The drawback is that she will probably charge 800, incl. Taxi, for the freshest ones, and that you cannot expect a "pro" service from them. If the girl is very fresh, she may be shy or not do BJ, it depends (but often get a wet pussy if you play well). Personnaly I prefer fresh rather than experienced, even if service level may vary. If you want to maximise your chance of being satisfied on your first delivery: (1) make very clear what your taste is. Maria believes that Laoweis only like big tits, (2) don't order late delivery and avoid busy nights such as Saturday night to make sure the best girls are available. If you are a first-time customer she will satisfy in priority her regular customers. If you become a repeat customer and she knows your taste she will take care of you (it's the same for the other providers).
I also prefer fresh rather than experienced. Unless we're talking very experienced, then sure I enjoy learning something. Many thanks for the suggestions, I will give Maria a try next time I get the urge for outcall. Appreciate it.
For your taste, I would rather advise Maria. The drawback is that she will probably charge 800, incl. Taxi, for the freshest ones, and that you cannot expect a "pro" service from them. If the girl is very fresh, she may be shy or not do BJ, it depends (but often get a wet pussy if you play well). Personnaly I prefer fresh rather than experienced, even if service level may vary. If you want to maximise your chance of being satisfied on your first delivery: (1) make very clear what your taste is. Maria believes that Laoweis only like big tits, (2) don't order late delivery and avoid busy nights such as Saturday night to make sure the best girls are available. If you are a first-time customer she will satisfy in priority her regular customers. If you become a repeat customer and she knows your taste she will take care of you (it's the same for the other providers).
Dutchboy7908
02-16-11, 04:55
Hello all,
Beijing expat here. Just have a question. I did a quick search on the forum but it didn't pop up. Currently my visa is beijing renewed. Hence I have no pasport. Now I picked up this very horny freebee from badoo. Com and we want to meet. Problem is she doesn't want to use her I'd card and I don't have a pasport. Any of you guys have experience with this and no a place where you can get a room by the hour without registering. There must be around right!
Thumbs up for the responses thanks!
Dutchboy7908
Quick question.
If I took a taxi and asked the driver to take me to find some affordable girls what would I say?
I'm hesitant to just say,"&25105; &35201; &23567; &22992; &12290; ' How have some of the more seasoned members navigated this kind of situation?
Any advice in dealing with taxi drivers who take such a request from a foreigner the wrong way?
Vincelee76
02-16-11, 07:39
Quick question.
If I took a taxi and asked the driver to take me to find some affordable girls what would I say?
I'm hesitant to just say,"&25105; &35201; &23567; &22992; &12290; ' How have some of the more seasoned members navigated this kind of situation?
Any advice in dealing with taxi drivers who take such a request from a foreigner the wrong way?In China, and many other asian countries. Don't be afraid and soft, you must project confidence. Not rude of course, but confidence. This is so important, I just can't stress it enough. Asians believe fair, but they will look down upon weakness and take advantage of you. If don't know how to bargain, you must try.
The taxi driver is YOUR employee. Ask him, where are bothels in this area. Don't let him drive you too far and charge you 100 rmb, which has happend to me before. They know everything, In smaller streets there are of course many massage places, hair cut saloon, whatever you have in mind, they will have it. Just don't pay 700, those crazy tourist prices. You will ruin it for everyone. The going rate is 100 to 200 rmb tops. No more than that any where in China.
Show confidence, and have fun
Do you have a good friend who would check in for you?
I had a night out a couple of months ago in Beijing with two mates, and one of them didn't have his passport (getting a visa) , but had a photocopy of his photo page AND the visa. The hotel needs the visa details (numbers, date of arrival etc). If you have that, you may have a chance.
I also wonder what the reaction would be if you offer to "pay extra for the inconvenience" to a cheap hotel.
Hello, all,
Beijing expat here. Just have a question. I did a quick search on the forum but it didn't pop up. Currently my visa is beijing renewed. Hence I have no pasport. Now I picked up this very horny freebee from badoo. Com and we want to meet. Problem is she doesn't want to use her I'd card and I don't have a pasport. Any of you guys have experience with this and no a place where you can get a room by the hour without registering. There must be around right!
Thumbs up for the responses thanks!
Dutchboy7908
Hello, all,
Beijing expat here. Just have a question. I did a quick search on the forum but it didn't pop up. Currently my visa is beijing renewed. Hence I have no pasport. Now I picked up this very horny freebee from badoo. Com and we want to meet. Problem is she doesn't want to use her I'd card and I don't have a pasport. Any of you guys have experience with this and no a place where you can get a room by the hour without registering. There must be around right!
Thumbs up for the responses thanks!
Dutchboy7908When you turned in your passport to the Public Security Bureau they should have given you a receipt for it. You can use this receipt to fly on airplanes and check into hotels. If your HR department is handling your visa renewal they probably have the receipt.
Good Luck!
Sammy
Quick question.
If I took a taxi and asked the driver to take me to find some affordable girls what would I say?
I'm hesitant to just say,"&25105; &35201; &23567; &22992; &12290; ' How have some of the more seasoned members navigated this kind of situation?
Any advice in dealing with taxi drivers who take such a request from a foreigner the wrong way? Try:
你好。 我想找小姐。你知道吗？ 近还是远？
Ni hao. Wo xiang zhao xiao jie. Ni zhi dao ma? Jin hai shi yuan?
Hello. I want to find little miss. You know? Close or far?
Hello. I am looking for girls. Do you know where there might be some? How far away are they: close or far?
Thomas Jefferson
02-16-11, 16:01
Yes lily service I one shot, if you finish early they will leave early. I ordered in the last 2 years around 10 lily girls and only once wasn't really happy. I will get a massage first around 20 min, to warm up with the girl, than I have another 40min for the rest.
If I like the girl I will get her mobile number, and later she will be very happy to visit you without lily in between (lily keeps around 300 for herself, only 200+100taxi going to the girl).
In the 2nd visit they never push the time and service will be great.
All in all, these agents promise a lot but never really listen. If you say young girl, you will get a 25-30 years old, you need to highlight a 19 year old girl, than the chance is good for one 19-22 years.
No need to make arrangement the day before, they will never remember the next day. Sms works better than talking on the phone.
Thomas Jefferson
After all the posts on here about Lily's outcall, I found her on msn and let her know what I was looking for: young, skinny, tight little butt, little tits are ok. Freshness is more important than pro. So she says young and pretty, slim and clean. I say yes and send a text message to her phone with my number and that description, tell her I'll call back in the morning to confirm an appt for next day.
In the morning I call her up to set an appointment time. She doesn't remember the conversation from the day before. So go over what I'm looking for one more time in English and Chinese and again send her a text with the description. Tell her any time is ok, just want to make sure she sends someone very fresh and amazing tight body. We settle on 9pm. 600 (500 + 100 "taxi").
8pm girl calls and asks if she can come over early. No prob, arrives at 8:20.
Amy, described elsewhere as "Amy. 24 years is from Sichuan. She is a beautician, pretty face, well groom, petitie, very fair and smooth skin. When you talk to her, you'll notice that she is a bimbo." Fairly accurate, but. Young? No, I'd guess 25 to 29. Slim, skinny tight little butt? Little soft butt and soft tits, not tight and no waist. Fresh and clean? Well groomed but not her first day on the job, would guess she's been working for 1 or 2 years. She is cute and do-able, but not what I'd call young and fresh and tight. I don't want waste more time to change her and to explain to lily in english and Chinese for the 5th time, so decide to keep her after the good reports I remember reading about her on sbf.
Go to shower and she's acting very air-headed and shy. With her doe eyes, curly hair and wide mouth and cleavage, reminds me of a Jewish American Princess I used to do in high school. Well maybe a slightly worn and 10 year older version. DFK, smoky / bitter taste. Get in the shower and the shyness is distracting. I mean if you're fresh from the farm and this is your first laowai I can understand, but this is not the case here. Maybe some guys like the cute act. Mediocre BBBJ and off to the bed. DATY. 69 until dripping (BJ is little better now but not great). Pussy is cute, little and not a lot of hair. One of those "Hi, here it all is" pussies. Cap and missionary. No problem taking it in even though she's a smaller girl. Flip to a couple different positions, she's into it but no initiative on positions or movement or oral. Twister with the legs and she starts gushing when I work the g-spot. She cums on long pulling strokes and clit at same time. I shoot in condom about 8:55. Get up to rinse off and she says she wants to wash-up a bit more, I say no problem I'm on the bed. Comes in the room fully dressed at 9:05 and wearing all her clothes. Says she's going to go now. I said oh really, what time did you get here, she said she doesn't know. I say it was about 8:20, how about relax a while. She sits down on edge of bed wearing all her clothes and says she's going to meet friends. LOL how crazy to ask someone to stay if they want to leave. So tell her she better go if her friends are waiting for her. First time this has ever happened to me in China.
RTF? No. She's cute enough to do as a freebie, but technical ability & service are lacking. And worst is skipping out 15 mins early.
Next day see Lily online and let her know that 25 to 29 is not young, and Amy was not tight body and fresh. She says, oh you like very young, I have a 19 yo, want to try now? LOL no. Then ask her about the leaving 15 mins early. I mean, is 500 for one hour as she advertises or does 500 mean one time leave even in it's 40 mins or 30 mins or 15 mins? She answers if you finish girl leave, next time give you one hour. Too funny.
Repeat with Lily? Most probably not. I was completely clear in my requirements in english and Chinese and made my schedule open. Something else arrives other than what I requested but I don't want to waste more time so I go for it. Ends up being a no RTF. Contact LIly to let her know about the experience and get a bunch of excuses and "oh 500 is for finish and leave", next time will be better. Don't think so, too many other great choices in Beijing.
This was my experience w / Lily, do believe some guys could be very happy with Lily's services and Amy could be just what they're for. In any case thank the other members for their FR and look forward to more reports.
Nobody Special
02-17-11, 02:38
Hello, all,
Beijing expat here. Just have a question. I did a quick search on the forum but it didn't pop up. Currently my visa is beijing renewed. Hence I have no pasport. Now I picked up this very horny freebee from badoo. Com and we want to meet. Problem is she doesn't want to use her I'd card and I don't have a pasport. Any of you guys have experience with this and no a place where you can get a room by the hour without registering. There must be around right!
Thumbs up for the responses thanks!
Dutchboy7908I can confirm the paper with your photo stapled to it is good for everything.
I travel from Shanghai to Harbin to Beijing back to Shanghai without a single issue.
No one batted an eye when this paper was presented to buy tickets or hotel checkins.
Nobody Special
Thanks for the words of wisdom. Good to know the drill with the outcall providers here. Should have just used my regular China instincts instead of trying to plan in advance and not marking the 25-30 year old return-to-sender. Looking forward to putting your useful advice to good use. Thanks.
Yes lily service I one shot, if you finish early they will leave early. I ordered in the last 2 years around 10 lily girls and only once wasn't really happy. I will get a massage first around 20 min, to warm up with the girl, than I have another 40min for the rest.
If I like the girl I will get her mobile number, and later she will be very happy to visit you without lily in between (lily keeps around 300 for herself, only 200+100taxi going to the girl).
In the 2nd visit they never push the time and service will be great.
All in all, these agents promise a lot but never really listen. If you say young girl, you will get a 25-30 years old, you need to highlight a 19 year old girl, than the chance is good for one 19-22 years.
No need to make arrangement the day before, they will never remember the next day. Sms works better than talking on the phone.
Thomas Jefferson
Seekingals
02-18-11, 15:34
If I like the girl I will get her mobile number, and later she will be very happy to visit you without lily in between (lily keeps around 300 for herself, only 200+100taxi going to the girl).
Thomas JeffersonThomas, could you please tell me how much the girl charges if without Lily in between. Is it 200+100taxi?
Seekingals
02-18-11, 15:45
If I like the girl I will get her mobile number, and later she will be very happy to visit you without lily in between (lily keeps around 300 for herself, only 200+100taxi going to the girl).Thomas, could you please tell me how much the girl will charge with Lily in between?
Thomas Jefferson
02-18-11, 23:52
Of course it is an unspoken agreement, that the price will not change, still 500+tax, but since the whole amount will go to the girl, and she knows you, AND if chemistry between you and the girl is ok, the service will improve by 1000. And no pushing of timelimits etc.
If you be a gentlemen to them, they will happyly come back to you. I still from time to time chat to some of them over qq, and they waiting for me to come back to beijing (at least they say, but who believe, haha).
Once I called a lily girl directly the 3rd time and she was in her period. She came to my hotel with one friend and said she could give me massage, blowjob, but for fucking I should do with her friend. We had a nice threesome and later I gave both 500, which they did not expect at all. Of course it was much longer than one hour.
What I want to say. Be friendly to them, treat them nice, and you will get back much better serivce, and it doesn't matter if the girl is from lily or angela or whoever serviceprovider.
The only problem for most here, they mostly never speak any word of english, so you must learn some basic Chinese, haha, have fun to study.
Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas, could you please tell me how much the girl charges if without Lily in between. Is it 200+100taxi?
FernandoAlonso
02-20-11, 08:04
I can confirm the paper with your photo stapled to it is good for everything.
I travel from Shanghai to Harbin to Beijing back to Shanghai without a single issue.
No one batted an eye when this paper was presented to buy tickets or hotel checkins.
Nobody SpecialConfirmed,
As long as the paper has chop and seal works perfect, however there are a few other fully legitimate options for a few anonymous hours or even a night, details via pm to contributors.
FA
Seekingals
02-20-11, 16:17
Of course it is an unspoken agreement, that the price will not change, still 500+tax, but since the whole amount will go to the girl, and she knows you, AND if chemistry between you and the girl is ok, the service will improve by 1000. And no pushing of timelimits etc.
If you be a gentlemen to them, they will happyly come back to you. I still from time to time chat to some of them over qq, and they waiting for me to come back to beijing (at least they say, but who believe, haha).
Once I called a lily girl directly the 3rd time and she was in her period. She came to my hotel with one friend and said she could give me massage, blowjob, but for fucking I should do with her friend. We had a nice threesome and later I gave both 500, which they did not expect at all. Of course it was much longer than one hour.
What I want to say. Be friendly to them, treat them nice, and you will get back much better serivce, and it doesn't matter if the girl is from lily or angela or whoever serviceprovider.
The only problem for most here, they mostly never speak any word of english, so you must learn some basic Chinese, haha, have fun to study.
Thomas JeffersonThanks a lot, Thomas.
Quick report from a recent trip to Beijing. After a night out with colleagues, decided to go get an oil massage at an old time favourite place on Chunxiu Road (between North Workers Stadium Road, or Gong Ti Bei Lu and Dong Zhi Men Wai the Jie). The massage place is connected to the Red Hotel about halfway between the two streets listed here.
Went in and asked for an oil massage. Quoted price of 228 RMB per hour. Girl led me to one of the back rooms, which is also set up as a hotel room. Asked if I wanted a shower, got cleaned up, put on the long, cloth shorts and waited for her to come back. Not a real looker, but friendly enough. The facilities are decent. Nothing special, but you do take the massage on a Chinese style (hard) double bed. Just like being in a hotel, and seems clean enough.
Chatted, and she gave a decent massage. A bit of teasing while lying down, and then asked for the flip. After a bit of leg and thigh massage, asked if the little brother wanted an "anmo". I said of course, so she quoted 300."Uh, no thanks," was my reply. She quickly went down to 200, which seemed okay for me, so I agreed. Nice, long oily HJ. (I suspect FS is not on offer here, though I didn't ask. Last time, the girl said I could have a massage at my hotel room. Probably need takeout for FS.)
She allowed touching of her breasts during the deed, although she kept the clothes on. Afterwords, I cleaned up and paid at the counter. I thought this was strange. Usually you give the "tip" to the girl in the room, but in this case, paid the total damage (428) at the register. No word if I could get an official "fapiao" for the total including tip!
Anyway, recommended place. I've had other good experiences there in the past.
Achnacloich
02-21-11, 00:04
Quick report from a recent trip to Beijing. After a night out with colleagues, decided to go get an oil massage at an old time favourite place on Chunxiu Road (between North Workers Stadium Road, or Gong Ti Bei Lu and Dong Zhi Men Wai the Jie). The massage place is connected to the Red Hotel about halfway between the two streets listed here.
Went in and asked for an oil massage. Quoted price of 228 RMB per hour. Girl led me to one of the back rooms, which is also set up as a hotel room. Asked if I wanted a shower, got cleaned up, put on the long, cloth shorts and waited for her to come back. Not a real looker, but friendly enough. The facilities are decent. Nothing special, but you do take the massage on a Chinese style (hard) double bed. Just like being in a hotel, and seems clean enough.
Chatted, and she gave a decent massage. A bit of teasing while lying down, and then asked for the flip. After a bit of leg and thigh massage, asked if the little brother wanted an "anmo". I said of course, so she quoted 300."Uh, no thanks," was my reply. She quickly went down to 200, which seemed okay for me, so I agreed. Nice, long oily HJ. (I suspect FS is not on offer here, though I didn't ask. Last time, the girl said I could have a massage at my hotel room. Probably need takeout for FS.)
She allowed touching of her breasts during the deed, although she kept the clothes on. Afterwords, I cleaned up and paid at the counter. I thought this was strange. Usually you give the "tip" to the girl in the room, but in this case, paid the total damage (428) at the register. No word if I could get an official "fapiao" for the total including tip!
Anyway, recommended place. I've had other good experiences there in the past.If you prefer the girl to come to your place / room 600 rmb gets you one of Angel's girls. I've just started using her and had three really great GFE girls. Beautiful skin, nice figures, young, toned, fit, frenching and real GFE experience. Some of them are part-time, so treat them nice and they will do the same for you. Lovely, warm girls who leave you with a smile on your face for days. If this sounds like it's too good to be true, well, all girls are different and they have their moods, but my experience has been truly good. They were just out of this world gorgeous, and made a few of my fantasies come to life anyway.
Get in the taxi. Make a fist with your left hand. Take the forefinger of your right hand and stick it in your fist. In and out. The driver will know what you want. Type a number you are comfortable with on your phone. Driver, man or woman will shake his / her head. Increase the number on your phone. If the driver shakes his or her head side to side, then you have not found the right taxi driver. Once you have reached you limit, rmb wise, shake your head side to side and get out of the taxi. Get another taxi. This is not rocket science in China.
Quick question.
If I took a taxi and asked the driver to take me to find some affordable girls what would I say?
I'm hesitant to just say,"&25105; &35201; &23567; &22992; &12290; ' How have some of the more seasoned members navigated this kind of situation?
Any advice in dealing with taxi drivers who take such a request from a foreigner the wrong way?
Hi All,
Paid a repeat visit to the lads at Blue Lake (also known as either KungKuan or LanHuHui (literally blue lake) last night. Same over the top fab facilities. Alas, the Spring Festival sphincter still seems to be in place. Chatting with my chum there I learned the helpful and pretty fuwuyuan won't be back on prem until "after February is over." Not sure if that means 1 March or maybe not until the following weekend.
Great straight massage last night, but probably not what you wanted to hear. As a simple word of warning, unless you have a slight S&M streak stay away from the exfoliation routine they will offer after the shower. It is too painful for words, especially when the guy gets the scrubby glove near the sensitive bits. Head to the sauna, steam, or hot pool for a soak instead.
In any case let me offer below scans of the business card with phone number and map. For those of you who do not speak any Chinese, Blue Lake could be challenging. While they are very polite and gracious to non-speakers, not having some mongering language, politely and quietly shared, makes tings difficult. So lads, practice that Hanyu!
The place is located in a 5 story commercial building at the intersection of ZuoJiaZhuangDongJie and ZuoJiaZhuangZhongJie. If you look at the attcahed map, I trust you can find 3rd ring road (the thick black line that kinks downward to the right. The "double lines" are the highway expressway.
The building, on the corner, has a rounded facade and you will see KungKuan in large letters. It is hard to miss. Standing at the apex of the corner facing the center of the curved part of building, you will see a large entrance to a shopping area. Do not go there. (unless you want to buy stuff)
Look to the right of the shopping entrance (maybe 10-15 feet / 3-4 meters) and you will see two very large brown wooden doors (fortress-sized doors). The left door opens to the elevator foyer. The right one puts you in a broom closet (yes, I have done that twice, being right handed and not from the UK). There is usually a older guard gent there, but he is often dozing. The elevator foyer is done in marble and is clean and well lit. The elevator goes only one place. 3rd floor. Enjoy! Sorry I do not have relevant mongering pricing details. I recall my last "over the top" visit (fire&ice, cat bath, A-rimming etc FS) came to 1700 and that was last year, so price inflation may have hit.
Should I hear of when the flock returns, I will post something.
Get in the taxi. Make a fist with your left hand. Take the forefinger of your right hand and stick it in your fist. In and out. The driver will know what you want. Type a number you are comfortable with on your phone. Driver, man or woman will shake his / her head. Increase the number on your phone. If the driver shakes his or her head side to side, then you have not found the right taxi driver. Once you have reached you limit, rmb wise, shake your head side to side and get out of the taxi. Get another taxi. This is not rocket science in China.So. If I stick my finger. Through my fist that. Means sex? I always thought that was the international sign for a pencil through a doughnut.
If I do that will I run the risk that the taxi driver will think I want to do him? I suppose the finger through the hole thing could be interpreted as gay sex. Don't get me wrong. I know how to refuse an offer to have gay sex with a taxi driver, but I think it cruel to get the guy's hope up like that.
Sorry, don't mean to be rude. I appreciate the help. Just couldn't resist.
El Frances
02-21-11, 18:56
Yes lily service I one shot, if you finish early they will leave early. I ordered in the last 2 years around 10 lily girls and only once wasn't really happy. I will get a massage first around 20 min, to warm up with the girl, than I have another 40min for the rest.
If I like the girl I will get her mobile number, and later she will be very happy to visit you without lily in between (lily keeps around 300 for herself, only 200+100taxi going to the girl).
In the 2nd visit they never push the time and service will be great.
All in all, these agents promise a lot but never really listen. If you say young girl, you will get a 25-30 years old, you need to highlight a 19 year old girl, than the chance is good for one 19-22 years.
No need to make arrangement the day before, they will never remember the next day. Sms works better than talking on the phone.
Thomas JeffersonI did it 2 years ago with a really nice girl from Lili I took every night. The downside was that she was always late, I. E. First giving me an appointment at earliest at 10:30, and arriving often late, even after 12:00. I was wondering why, and after I understood that she had to remain available for Lili's customers (Lili and others are not stupid, if the girl is not available for their customers, they guess the girl actually by-pass them) , so she would only see me after the first night session time (I guess even in the case lili would call her for a late customer, she could answer she was tired).
OK, the girl was totally GFE with me, but I thought:
- I pay the same price,
- I have to wait late,
- the girl has always been fucked by another guy before me.
So after all, it did not look so good. After that, I rather avoided calling the girls directly.
El Frances
02-21-11, 18:58
If you prefer the girl to come to your place / room 600 rmb gets you one of Angel's girls. I've just started using her and had three really great GFE girls. Beautiful skin, nice figures, young, toned, fit, frenching and real GFE experience. Some of them are part-time, so treat them nice and they will do the same for you. Lovely, warm girls who leave you with a smile on your face for days. If this sounds like it's too good to be true, well, all girls are different and they have their moods, but my experience has been truly good. They were just out of this world gorgeous, and made a few of my fantasies come to life anyway.We know it's you, Angel, we are not that stupid! Ah! Ah!
If you prefer the girl to come to your place / room 600 rmb gets you one of Angel's girls. I've just started using her and had three really great GFE girls. Beautiful skin, nice figures, young, toned, fit, frenching and real GFE experience. Some of them are part-time, so treat them nice and they will do the same for you. Lovely, warm girls who leave you with a smile on your face for days. If this sounds like it's too good to be true, well, all girls are different and they have their moods, but my experience has been truly good. They were just out of this world gorgeous, and made a few of my fantasies come to life anyway.Yeah, right.
Nice try man, or maybe woman, whatever.
You mislead the thread. Classified ads are little bit above.
AF
We know it's you, Angel, we are not that stupid! Ah! Ah!Sounds like you dislike Angel's service?
Seekingals
02-22-11, 13:24
I did it 2 years ago with a really nice girl from Lili I took every night. The downside was that she was always late, I. E. First giving me an appointment at earliest at 10:30, and arriving often late, even after 12:00. I was wondering why, and after I understood that she had to remain available for Lili's customers (Lili and others are not stupid, if the girl is not available for their customers, they guess the girl actually by-pass them) , so she would only see me after the first night session time (I guess even in the case lili would call her for a late customer, she could answer she was tired).
OK, the girl was totally GFE with me, but I thought:
- I pay the same price,
- I have to wait late,
- the girl has always been fucked by another guy before me.
So after all, it did not look so good. After that, I rather avoided calling the girls directly.Thanks for your sharing. Surely, you're an experienced guy.
Vera Petrova
02-23-11, 08:38
Of course it is an unspoken agreement, that the price will not change, still 500+tax, but since the whole amount will go to the girl, and she knows you, AND if chemistry between you and the girl is ok, the service will improve by 1000. And no pushing of timelimits etc.
If you be a gentlemen to them, they will happyly come back to you. I still from time to time chat to some of them over qq, and they waiting for me to come back to beijing (at least they say, but who believe, haha).
Once I called a lily girl directly the 3rd time and she was in her period. She came to my hotel with one friend and said she could give me massage, blowjob, but for fucking I should do with her friend. We had a nice threesome and later I gave both 500, which they did not expect at all. Of course it was much longer than one hour.
What I want to say. Be friendly to them, treat them nice, and you will get back much better serivce, and it doesn't matter if the girl is from lily or angela or whoever serviceprovider.
The only problem for most here, they mostly never speak any word of english, so you must learn some basic Chinese, haha, have fun to study.
Thomas JeffersonIt sounds a good idea, but I'm wondering if it's a safe way to call the girl directly without a boss or an agent in between. Usually the boss or agent incline to do their business on a long-term basis, but the individuals will not.
Traveller China
02-23-11, 16:57
Guys, I have been chatting with a nice lady who is seeking a second leg on her career. She is late 20s. 162 cm tall and has a smile to die for. Sichuan flower with a killer spark in her eyes. It pains me that I am not in Beijing now to ease her into a second career myself!
She has a good career already, and is doing this more to add spice to her life and to get some excitement. That being said, she is NOT a freebie. Clean shaved, legs like lollipops, B cups by the look of it and a good attitude. Speaks English fluently, is a bit of a yoga-bunny so she is toned. Due to her regular career, she is not available all the time so planning is required.
I get nothing from this. This is more like a David_33 deal (read the Peru forum is that does not make sense to you) where I simply make arrangements and the rest is up to you. Anyone thinking less than RMB 1, 000 need not PM me.
Others, with a good record of treating ladies well, and who preferably live in BJ, can PM me and I will divulge the email address you can reach her on. Please include a brief description of yourself in your PM so that I can let her choose whom she wants to contact. Once you are connected, you are on your own.
Loveasiangirls
02-24-11, 03:19
Guys, I have been chatting with a nice lady who is seeking a second leg on her career. She is late 20s. 162 cm tall and has a smile to die for. Sichuan flower with a killer spark in her eyes. It pains me that I am not in Beijing now to ease her into a second career myself!
She has a good career already, and is doing this more to add spice to her life and to get some excitement. That being said, she is NOT a freebie. Clean shaved, legs like lollipops, B cups by the look of it and a good attitude. Speaks English fluently, is a bit of a yoga-bunny so she is toned. Due to her regular career, she is not available all the time so planning is required.
I get nothing from this. This is more like a David_33 deal (read the Peru forum is that does not make sense to you) where I simply make arrangements and the rest is up to you. Anyone thinking less than RMB 1, 000 need not PM me.
Others, with a good record of treating ladies well, and who preferably live in BJ, can PM me and I will divulge the email address you can reach her on. Please include a brief description of yourself in your PM so that I can let her choose whom she wants to contact. Once you are connected, you are on your own. Are we to understand that you never met her?
Sorry but what does legs like lollipops mean?
Dutchboy7908
02-24-11, 06:06
Hi FA,
I'm not a paying member so not able to PM you. Thanks for the advice. I'd be really interested to know more about these options. So if possible I would like to hear about the other options. Thanks!
Dutchboy7908
Confirmed,
As long as the paper has chop and seal works perfect, however there are a few other fully legitimate options for a few anonymous hours or even a night, details via pm to contributors.
FA
Traveller China
02-24-11, 10:07
=Sorry but what does legs like lollipops mean?Legs you want to suck on, lick. Whatever floats your boat. These legs are moreish.
I've been in contact with her for months, and we have cammed. I have seen her and know her attitude to this.
Not interested in starting a discussion on the merits or otherwise of this woman. Takers can PM me, talkers can do whatever they like.
Thomas Jefferson
02-24-11, 13:04
No risk no fun.
Thomas Jefferson
It sounds a good idea, but I'm wondering if it's a safe way to call the girl directly without a boss or an agent in between. Usually the boss or agent incline to do their business on a long-term basis, but the individuals will not.
ChinaIsNice
02-25-11, 01:08
Hi guys,
I am new here, got few questions.
I landed in Beijing few days ago, now starting to feel pressure. I am reading this forum, trying to find some usefull guids but I have problem with search system, so I think I will just ask.
Did anyone of you used Sayoli? Is it the famous Lily that's being recomended in this thread? What is the price there for standard sex and massage?
Also could someone be so kind and explain to me all the short cuts? For example FS, LT BBBJ and so on? English isn't my nativ languge and as I said before, search system here aint great.
Thanks for help.
Ps. Does anyone here know are girls here runing health checks regulary? Same for example like in Holand?
Bad Boy Billy
02-25-11, 03:37
Will be in town nights Mar 3, 4, 5 and 6. Who else is around?
Seems the only available w.hores in Beijing now are from Lily's and Angel's stable - woo hoo - we all know the great value from those origins.
Will be in town nights Mar 3, 4.5 and 6. Who else is around?
Seems the only available w. Hores in Beijing now are from Lily's and Angel's stable. Woo hoo. We all know the great value from those origins. Will be here BBB. Will PM tele.
Cheers,
Mc
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