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Huangdipingxian
08-13-11, 11:17
Went yesterday around midnight. Many "tagged" girl and some mongolian but quality not exellent.
Huangdipingxian
08-13-11, 12:03
Hi Tieji is this spa close to liangmaqiao? I would like to go there tomorrow. Is still open? Could you please send me the address in PM?
The Beijing sauna scene was hit badly during the crackdown last year. The crackdown started in Beijing, was most severe here, and went on for longer than in other places. In a way, it's not entirely over, in the sense that things have not returned to the status quo ante, the way they seem to have in most other places (with the possible exception of Shanghai).
That said, there are still places to go. I'm not sure about "high end" places. The regular places are already expensive enough for me (often twice the price, or more, than similar places in second tier cities such as Chengdu or Qingdao).
One place that is popular with ex-pats (and therefore welcomes foreigners, which is not always the case) is located near the Kempinski Hotel. I'm sure Beijing regulars know the place I mean. (In the post-crackdown mood, I'd rather not name names; PM me for details.) I'm not sure I'd describe it as "high end", but it's reasonably presentable. Some of the girls are cute, and they've just in the last few days brought a batch of new girls into the place. It can be cautious with new walk-in customers (ie, those not recommended by someone) , but this rule is relaxed for foreigners, on the assumption that a laowai is unlikely to be a police stooge. FS is rmb1, 150 for 70 minutes (as I said, not cheap!). Sessions with two girls (shuangfei in Chinese) are a house special; they do it rather well, but it costs rmb1, 800 (as I said,.)
The big place very close to the Pizza Hut on Dongzhimenwai Dajie looks pretty classy from the outside. It's been reported once or twice here, but I haven't visited myself.
I will be stopped off in Beijing for about 8 hours in the afternoon / evening. Was wanting to head out for a bit to see what is available. Was thinking WJ as one option, but also considering a sauna in Yanjiao. Any word on current condition and how much one can expect to pay. Probably simethung a bit cheaper than Roman. I kind of want to play on the cheap so any suggestions on maximizing enjoyment with about 500RMB.
Cheers
Hi Tieji is this spa close to liangmaqiao? I would like to go there tomorrow. Is still open? Could you please send me the address in PM?Sorry, I was offline for a few days. Anyway, you don't appear to have PM access. Things are a bit more relaxed in Beijing now, but, even so, I'd still prefer not to be too specific with the names and addresses of favourite venues on the open thread. I'm sure you understand.
Huangdipingxian
08-15-11, 14:58
Sorry, I was offline for a few days. Anyway, you don't appear to have PM access. Things are a bit more relaxed in Beijing now, but, even so, I'd still prefer not to be too specific with the names and addresses of favourite venues on the open thread. I'm sure you understand.Sorry I still realize that I need to pay registration for have a PM. Thanks for your help anyway. No problem.
Loveasiangirls
08-15-11, 15:17
Hey guys, I'm an active senior member in southern China. I'm planning quick tour of Beijing for non-mongering purpsoes and was wondering if the old timers on here or the locals in BJ. Knew of any private car / van that I could contact. If so, please PM me with some contact details. My trip is next week, so I'd really appreciate it and I'd definitely extend any courtesies in the Shenzhen / Guangzhou / Dongguan area. I have lots of contacts here, just none in Beijing where I am headed to. I just want to hire a driver for the day to take me where I want to go.
Thanks in advance!
This isn't really an RTFF request. So I just thought I'd appeal to the seniors who have daily contact in Beijing. Thanks!
-JettCheck here: http://www.thebeijinger.com/classifieds/general/Services/Cars-Drivers
Well it has been a long time since my last visit.
A brief look at some reports and we are back again into the big spenders frenzy.
"One girl goes for 1500 RMB and a 20 years old goes certainly for 2000RMB"
You know what guys? Why you just give them all your money upfront with a big smile on your face?
FYI old timers living in BJ (for ages) pop the same girls for over half your prices. But once again you guys make hard on us with your big spending "style".
If anyone is sking you for 1500RMB, stay firm at 600!
That said, BJ is full of freebies!
Yes I know the next question LOL: "where to find freebies?"
Over 30's with a car, you will find them in expensive Malls and Starbuck. (Starbucks on the weekend is full of them)
Over 20's in regular Malls, the subway, shopping streets.
Last week, I was in one of those dirty Wall-marts. 3PM, this bold woman wanted it so much that she decided to follow me as I was shopping.
3PM is a great time for meeting them, there is no crowd, women feel safe for they aren't exposed.
Finally all done. Though might take a day to activate.
As I mentioned in a previous post, hope for some reliable contacts as we will be in Beijing soon.
"just PM me" makes a lot more sense now. LOL
Huangdipingxian
08-17-11, 05:27
Which Malls and which starbuks?
Well it has been a long time since my last visit.
A brief look at some reports and we are back again into the big spenders frenzy...
Gualtier Malde
08-18-11, 17:13
I will be stopped off in Beijing for about 8 hours in the afternoon / evening. Was wanting to head out for a bit to see what is available. Was thinking WJ as one option, but also considering a sauna in Yanjiao. Any word on current condition and how much one can expect to pay. Probably simethung a bit cheaper than Roman. I kind of want to play on the cheap so any suggestions on maximizing enjoyment with about 500RMB.
CheersI may be wrong, but I'm not sure you'll have time for Yanjiao if you only have 8 hours between flights. Anyway, it would be tight if traffic is as its usual bad. WJ is closer, but I don't think you'll find FS. How are you planning to get around? And exactly what does 8 hours mean? 8 hours between flights, or 8 hours not including airport security, bag getting / giving, taxi getting, etc? Evening means how late? If you're leaving after 11pm, you could probably pick up a short term chick at The Pig, take her to a local hotel (but bargain hard). The Pig and WJ are not far apart, and not that far from the airport.
But, if in the end you have plenty of time to get out to Yanjiao, go for it!
GM
Here's a brief FR on a great girl I just had.
Name: Nina.
Age: 18.
Height: about 1. 67 cms.
Looks: cute.
Figure: slim, nice curve.
Skin: fair, smooth.
Boobs: very very big. 36D / E, fantastic!
Attitude: friendly, patient.
Overall: very nice, a great girl
Price: 600 yuan for ST.
Mamason: Kitty, a great outcall provider!
Contact: [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].
By the way, in order to get the right girls of your liking, you'd better SMS the mamason your demand, for she can not speak English very well.
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Loveasiangirls
08-18-11, 19:18
Which Malls and which starbuks?Do you think girls walk around with a sign that says "looking for sex with a foreigner"?
If you want to pick up freebies, you need to use your charm to convince them.
Gualtier Malde
08-19-11, 02:09
Do you think girls walk around with a sign that says "looking for sex with a foreigner"?
If you want to pick up freebies, you need to use your charm to convince them.Oh, Loveasiangirls, be a gentleman and reveal the actual secret to identifying freebies, which we all know is this: any girl wearing a t-shirt with inaccurate english writing (misspelling or nonsense phrasing) is advertising for a foreign man. This is a well known cultural fact in China.
So all he (or anyone reading this) needs to do is approach that girl, say "hey, nice t-shirt. Can I play with your tits? Let's fuck!" and she will go to the hotel with you. (It works better if she is with a group of girls, or better, mixed group of guys and girls. She'll be so proud of herself that you noticed.)
I don't know why more people don't know about this.
GM.
Gualtier makes some good points, but if your driver knows the way (via Jingping Expy or Longtang Road) , it takes about 30 minutes to get to Yanjiao from the airport, and there is hardly ever any traffic along that route.
Mao don't.
I may be wrong, but I'm not sure you'll have time for Yanjiao if you only have 8 hours between flights. Anyway, it would be tight if traffic is as its usual bad. WJ is closer, but I don't think you'll find FS. How are you planning to get around? And exactly what does 8 hours mean? 8 hours between flights, or 8 hours not including airport security, bag getting / giving, taxi getting, etc? Evening means how late? If you're leaving after 11pm, you could probably pick up a short term chick at The Pig, take her to a local hotel (but bargain hard). The Pig and WJ are not far apart, and not that far from the airport.
But, if in the end you have plenty of time to get out to Yanjiao, go for it!
GM
Went there tonight. FS is 600, he 300 he+massage 400. My sense is I was being overcharged, but didn't feel like haggling. The accommodations are nice. Its clean, the service is unrushed and there's a shower / sauna thing (what the fuck was I doing hanging out in a sauna in this weather?) Went with #8, she's cute, big tits and nice personality. You can't stay past midnight if you're a foreigner, though.I went to the hutong cheniandian today but I couldn't find the place. I found a massage place opposite of the hebei hotel called jiu qianlong (with a yellow window). I didn't think I got the right place, I had only regular massage and it doesn't look like your description.
I came from andingmen inner and to the way to hebei hotel, I've only seen small shops and restaurants, maybe I missed something.
I don't speak mandarin very well and I only know about 500 han zi, not enough to get the good place. Is there some pin yin inscription or only Chinese characters? What does the entrance look like? Can you give me some details please? What are the characters for bath house?
Thanks
Oh, Loveasiangirls, be a gentleman and reveal the actual secret to identifying freebies, which we all know is this: any girl wearing a t-shirt with inaccurate english writing (misspelling or nonsense phrasing) is advertising for a foreign man. This is a well known cultural fact in China.
So all he (or anyone reading this) needs to do is approach that girl, say "hey, nice t-shirt. Can I play with your tits? Let's fuck!" and she will go to the hotel with you. (It works better if she is with a group of girls, or better, mixed group of guys and girls. She'll be so proud of herself that you noticed.)
I don't know why more people don't know about this.
GM.Hahahahaa for a moment I thought you were serious GM, me thinks this approach will only get you a good slapping, maybe by the whole group. You so cruel!
I went to the hutong cheniandian today but I couldn't find the place. I found a massage place opposite of the hebei hotel called jiu qianlong (with a yellow window). I didn't think I got the right place, I had only regular massage and it doesn't look like your description.
I came from andingmen inner and to the way to hebei hotel, I've only seen small shops and restaurants, maybe I missed something.
I don't speak mandarin very well and I only know about 500 han zi, not enough to get the good place. Is there some pin yin inscription or only Chinese characters? What does the entrance look like? Can you give me some details please? What are the characters for bath house?
ThanksIf you entered the hutong from Andingmennei Dajie you must have walked right past the place. It's on the left as you walk towards the Hebei Hotel. If you reach the Hebei Hotel you've gone way too far. The name in Chinese is yu4 quan2 ge2 xi3 yu3 zhong1 xin1 (see below). You step down into the entrance, which is not particularly prepossessing. Look out for a small cage sitting on the floor right at the entrance with two rabbits inside (for good luck in the Year of the Rabbit?) , unless someone's eaten them that is!
玉泉阁洗浴中心
Linkhainan
08-20-11, 14:00
At noon today the local TV Channel, Beijing TV, has reported the police has caught 24 girls and 26 men in Chaoyang District. These girls are young and beautiful and not so expensive, (400 RMB for 3 hours) , they belonged to 3 groups.
The police "special action angainst prostitutes" in Beijing has not finished, many shops and sauna dare not operate such business yet, only provide some normal services.
Bitter Almonds
08-21-11, 07:08
As I know not everyone here is a hardcore mg and some are happy with just HE and the like, I thought I'd report on something that happened to me last night, and you sometimes read about it and you're never quite sure whether it's a bit made up or genuine, as it is something we tend to fantasise on. Me at least.
So came back from a nice evening out quite late last night and decided to check maizidian and maybe indulge in a good night massage. I hate it when they have to wake up the girl for you so I picked a room where there was a bit of life and was lucky to have the lady at the desk suggest she could do the massage herself if I wish. Late 20's, cute, sexy silk nuisette instead of the ugly hospital-like uniform you sometimes get, I said yes right away.
Follows a very good mix of oil massage and Chinese-massage work on pressure points, gradually focussing on and around the most sensitive areas which got more than 50% of the first hour. Two other nice points: the sexy blue paper short I was wearing was removed quite early, and my request to switch down the light when turning over was executed right away.
When the mama san yelled that the hour was over (after at least 15 minutes of bonus time) she asked me whether I wanted a second hour. I much prefer that to a 20 minutes haggling over the price of the HE. 400, then 300, then 200, then 100 and I don't even feel like it anymore. The risk is of course that you pay for the second hour and it's all teasing and no conclusion and you end up frustrated or yet another bill or two lighter. But the massage was so good I really didn't care.
The second hour started where the first had stopped, with a very likeable HJ, very soft and slow. Had my eyes closed but I some point new sensations prompted me to open them and I was quite surprised to see she was using her mouth as well as her hands. Maybe I've not been lucky so far but it was a first for me in a non-sauna massage joint. It went on, I let my hands wander on her body. She led me to climax, in a much better than average way (how can masseuses be so bad at HJ I'm often left wondering). Then cleaned me and then kept caressing, whispering things, blowing an occasional kiss on my dick. After a few minutes she unexpectingly lifted her shirt and started massaging me with her tits, another first for me in this context. This led to a totally GFE all around kissing session, where she wouldn't let my mouth away from her tits. Came a second time and sun was up already and I had to go
Here it is. Sorry I took so much space with hardly any sex and no specific address but it made me feel good, and I wanted to share the story, innocent as it is. Definitely the best massage I had in China. Wish all of you who haven't yet to get this one day
Oliveryochest
08-21-11, 10:03
Can you provide the contact details? Much appreciated.
Here's a brief FR on a great girl I just had.
Name: Nina.
Age: 18.
Height: about 1. 67 cms.
Looks: cute.
Figure: slim, nice curve.
Skin: fair, smooth.
Boobs: very very big. 36D / E, fantastic!
Attitude: friendly, patient.
Overall: very nice, a great girl
Price: 600 yuan for ST.
Mamason: Kitty, a great outcall provider!
Contact: [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].
By the way, in order to get the right girls of your liking, you'd better SMS the mamason your demand, for she can not speak English very well.
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Sorry, seems that it's not allowed to write contact details in the postings. So you'll have to buy a subscription to enable your Private Message System.
Can you provide the contact details? Much appreciated.
Would love to know where exactly you went, if that's ok! I haven't explored the Maizidian area much at all. I'm fairly new to Beijing. Is that a good area for HJ / BJ massage in general? That's the area around Kempinski Hotel, right?
Thanks in advance for any details / info you might have. Feel free to PM me.
Thanks!
As I know not everyone here is a hardcore mg and some are happy with just HE and the like, I thought I'd report on something that happened to me last night, and you sometimes read about it and you're never quite sure whether it's a bit made up or genuine, as it is something we tend to fantasise on. Me at least.
So came back from a nice evening out quite late last night and decided to check maizidian and maybe indulge in a good night massage. I hate it when they have to wake up the girl for you so I picked a room where there was a bit of life and was lucky to have the lady at the desk suggest she could do the massage herself if I wish. Late 20's, cute, sexy silk nuisette instead of the ugly hospital-like uniform you sometimes get, I said yes right away.
El Frances
08-22-11, 22:57
Yes, occationally Chinese WGs there as well, but rare. They are typically younger and in better shape, so if the older and heavier Mongolians were asking 1500, or 1000 for that matter, a 20 year old Chinese girl will definitely go for 2000 or more.
FillmoreTotally hopeless.
Totally hopeless.I agree that this is totally hopeless. I was in Beijing 2 months ago and went to Maggies. I got a young thin and beautiful Mongolian for 1000 RMB for LT. She stayed until noon the next day. I will be back in Beijing on Friday night and I will get another great looking young Mongolian for 1000 RMB for the night. That is how it works for most guys in Maggies. The ones that pay 1500 to 2000 are getting taken advantaged of and the girls realize that and actually give them worse service as they think their client does not know any better. Smarten up guys. Maggies has been there a long time and will continue to be there for a long time. Sooner or later you will ruin it for all of us
Member #4144
08-24-11, 01:27
I agree that this is totally hopeless. I was in Beijing 2 months ago and went to Maggies. I got a young thin and beautiful Mongolian for 1000 RMB for LT. She stayed until noon the next day. I will be back in Beijing on Friday night and I will get another great looking young Mongolian for 1000 RMB for the night. That is how it works for most guys in Maggies. The ones that pay 1500 to 2000 are getting taken advantaged of and the girls realize that and actually give them worse service as they think their client does not know any better. Smarten up guys. Maggies has been there a long time and will continue to be there for a long time. Sooner or later you will ruin it for all of us
Please let us know how it went. When I was there, I didn't see any young, or any thin Mogolian, so for any of them there, I would not even tough go with them even if it was 300.
For me, thin means < 45kg, young means < 25 years old, so not sure if your girl was like that.
Fillmore
Here it is. Sorry I took so much space with hardly any sex and no specific address but it made me feel good, and I wanted to share the story, innocent as it is. Definitely the best massage I had in China. Wish all of you who haven't yet to get this one dayBest massage I had in China was in a legitimate place, frequented by many expats ladies and men.
In a group room they had partitions to give some privacy, but this girl had no problem allowing me to take off the shorts when massaging my back. Bit of rimming and brush of the sack whilst massaging my thighs felt good and got the old fella realy interested. Turned over and towel used to cover my tent and proceeded with a really good massage. Towards the end she started to play with my tool and got it really hard and indicated if I wanted a Happy Ending. She offered 100 so happy to take it.
Next thing she's gone the BBBJ, Fantastic. Pulled her legs towards me and she's spread them as I slip 2 fingers into her. WOW, she keeps going and for the first time ever I blew my load. She cleans me up but still allows me to play with both top and bottom.
After 2 more visits just like this one I get her number and have her come over after work. Decide to give her some pleasure and gave her the worship treatment, made her cum 5 times before she begged to sleep. Had to work early in the morning but she still gave me a BBBJ the next morning.
Later she wasn't able to do the LT anymore she came over for some FS, Amazing technique, loved me giving DATY and popped at least 2 times. All this and a great massage for 400.
Carried on for several months before she dissappeared from the scene. Awesome lady and a fantastic memory of China
I agree that this is totally hopeless. I was in Beijing 2 months ago and went to Maggies. I got a young thin and beautiful Mongolian for 1000 RMB for LT. She stayed until noon the next day. I will be back in Beijing on Friday night and I will get another great looking young Mongolian for 1000 RMB for the night. That is how it works for most guys in Maggies. The ones that pay 1500 to 2000 are getting taken advantaged of and the girls realize that and actually give them worse service as they think their client does not know any better. Smarten up guys. Maggies has been there a long time and will continue to be there for a long time. Sooner or later you will ruin it for all of usI've been thinking about something for a while; We all know about the scamming bitches that wander the streets looking for a lao wai victim to guide to a tea house or restaurant, then lay them at the mercy of the proprietor who produces a false drinks / menu etc etc. You know the play, and yes I have been a victim to the sum of Y3000 for dinner and wine.
But really, aren't the tag girls at Maggie's just as bad? I hear reports here all the time about how these fine wenches will order expensive drinks that are not what they are supposed to be, so that they can stay sober and keep you buying. This is a wraught in anyones language. It is often reported here by the experienced Beijingers that Maggie's ain't what it used to be. I don't know about that, but it seems, from reading numerous reports, that it is a major scam operation? Ridiculously priced drinks and pretty girls employed for the sole purpose of separating you from your cash. Sometimes it seems, it is possible to find an acceptable WG there, but at again ridiculous prices, and I have personally never seen one there that drew the blood to the southern region.
I have been to the Den a few times and found it a good watering hole, sometimes there are WGs there as well but no scamming tag girls. There are obviously many good drinking spots around Beijing, which would soon be frequented by more who-ares if the clientele were there. Maggies survives on the naievity of foreigners in my opinion, how about some other options?
JMPOV
Member #4144
08-24-11, 06:07
I've been thinking about something for a while; We all know about the scamming bitches that wander the streets looking for a lao wai victim to guide to a tea house or restaurant, then lay them at the mercy of the proprietor who produces a false drinks / menu etc etc. You know the play, and yes I have been a victim to the sum of Y3000 for dinner and wine.
But really, aren't the tag girls at Maggie's just as bad? I hear reports here all the time about how these fine wenches will order expensive drinks that are not what they are supposed to be, so that they can stay sober and keep you buying. This is a wraught in anyones language. It is often reported here by the experienced Beijingers that Maggie's ain't what it used to be. I don't know about that, but it seems, from reading numerous reports, that it is a major scam operation? Ridiculously priced drinks and pretty girls employed for the sole purpose of separating you from your cash. Sometimes it seems, it is possible to find an acceptable WG there, but at again ridiculous prices, and I have personally never seen one there that drew the blood to the southern region.
I have been to the Den a few times and found it a good watering hole, sometimes there are WGs there as well but no scamming tag girls. There are obviously many good drinking spots around Beijing, which would soon be frequented by more who-ares if the clientele were there. Maggies survives on the naievity of foreigners in my opinion, how about some other options?
JMPOVTotally agree, will check out the Den next time I come into BJ, Maggie's is totally ruined with 300 WGs asking 1500 and the tagged girls keep ordering wisky shots at 120 a pop that takes 5 sec to finish. We need ideas on other bars in BJ to dry up Maggies business.
Fillmore
a number of fs massage places have opened in van palace next to kerry centre. i have tried the ones on the fifth and 32nd floors in the west tower, and 15th and 21st in the east tower. expect to pay about 1100. quite often the security guard or another guy will intercept you in the lobby and take you up. they get a commission and that is increasing the prices.
a trick to speed the negotiations is just take out a condom and put it on the counter. that will result in an immediate discussion of price and then a nice seamless transition from massage to the act.
Totally agree, will check out the Den next time I come into BJ, Maggie's is totally ruined with 300 WGs asking 1500 and the tagged girls keep ordering wisky shots at 120 a pop that takes 5 sec to finish. We need ideas on other bars in BJ to dry up Maggies business.
FillmoreDon't think I am an ardent supporter of "The Den' or any other establishment. But just as an example; if you read back a bit you will come across a report from the legendary BBB about an episode where I witnessed his enviable charm / wallet.
Last I saw of him he was marching out of "The Den" with two (yes two) yummy black wenches, and yes I said "The Den" not Maggies or Chocolates or Hollywood. Would this be possible at these establishments? I doubt it. He and some other senior member that were there were adamant that these places were f*ked.
Probably the result of some greedy owners who have realized that some desperadoes will spend thousands just to have a pretty girl talk to them. Not part of their plan to have WGs that are more attractive than their paid scammers me thinks. They don't want you leaving with the WGs, they want you drinking until you can't stand up. The WGs who are there, probably have to pay something to the "Fatcat" sitting somewhere out of sight counting what used to be your money. The top class girls don't need to do that.
Personally, I would gladly pay 1000 for one of those chocolate delights, but I can't understand how so many guys will willingly offer themselves up to being conned, not as if they don't know what is happening?
As I said before, if the lao wai frequent somewhere else, maybe the classy girls will appear?
By the way Billy, chocolate is good for you, apparently, but too much will make you fat!
And yes before you say it, I am just jealous.
JMPOV
BritInEgypt
08-25-11, 15:27
I have to say, not only is this board good for recommendations on providers but very much so in other info as well. During a recent trip to Beijing a colleague and I were walking around the Forbidden City district (outside the walls) and we were approached by these 2 very cute girls who asked where we were from, what we were doing in Beijing etc, and they then proceeded to say that they were english students and would we like to join them for a few drinks in order to practice their english and it was extremely tempting as they were quiet flirtatious and cute, my colleague was extremely keen but I remembered reading on here about a ruse to get you to a bar / restaurant and then being saddled with a massive bill, which I explained to my colleague (didn't mention the source of the info, as did not know his take on mongering) we then proceeded to Hu-Hao (or however its spelt, the lakes area basically) where we found a nice cool reggae bar where we had a few beers and got chatting to 2 Shanghai girls in town for some partying and after a great night (they bought us drinks as well) they came back to our hotel for some fun and it did not cost a penny. So thank you ISG for saving us from getting ripped off.
I have to say, not only is this board good for recommendations on providers but very much so in other info as well. During a recent trip to Beijing a colleague and I were walking around the Forbidden City district (outside the walls) and we were approached by these 2 very cute girls who asked where we were from, what we were doing in Beijing etc, and they then proceeded to say that they were english students and would we like to join them for a few drinks in order to practice their english and it was extremely tempting as they were quiet flirtatious and cute, my colleague was extremely keen but I remembered reading on here about a ruse to get you to a bar / restaurant and then being saddled with a massive bill, which I explained to my colleague (didn't mention the source of the info, as did not know his take on mongering) we then proceeded to Hu-Hao (or however its spelt, the lakes area basically) where we found a nice cool reggae bar where we had a few beers and got chatting to 2 Shanghai girls in town for some partying and after a great night (they bought us drinks as well) they came back to our hotel for some fun and it did not cost a penny. So thank you ISG for saving us from getting ripped off.Just another fun fact. Actually Lonely Planet has a paragraph with the exact same warning. I bet they got conned too.
If you entered the hutong from Andingmennei Dajie you must have walked right past the place. It's on the left as you walk towards the Hebei Hotel. If you reach the Hebei Hotel you've gone way too far. The name in Chinese is yu4 quan2 ge2 xi3 yu3 zhong1 xin1 (see below). You step down into the entrance, which is not particularly prepossessing. Look out for a small cage sitting on the floor right at the entrance with two rabbits inside (for good luck in the Year of the Rabbit?) , unless someone's eaten them that is!
&29577; &27849; &38401; &27927; &28020; &20013; &24515; I had a go with number 8 the other day. She is great for doggy thanks to her nice ass and tight waist but the face is a mere 5. She is from Liaoning for those collecting girls from different provinces.
No BBBJ. But I did not ask for it neither.
Funnily she took me for another of her client. As wel all know, we, laowais, all look the same!
Bad Boy Billy
08-27-11, 01:35
I was in BJ nights Aug 17, 18 and 19. A quick update from my perspective.
MAGGIES: Several reports of recent about quality and pricing at Maggies:
QUALITY first. Still way down on what it was / could be. Still many girls in UB and things will change in 2 or 3 weeks when school in BJ starts again. Still some stars around. But I have fucked them all. What is still really missing in Maggies is the QUALITY TALL NEW YOUNG girls that used to consistently filter through. But it is what it is. I still found 2 greatr girls who provided FABULOUS service.
PRICING. Yes several girls are asking rediculous prices. 2K to 3K. Laugh at them and walk away. I paid RMB1, 000 LT for each girl I took on different nights. That is all you need to pay. Business is still very quiet. At 2 and 3K they are pricing themselves out of the market. You do not need pay this.
There is always a smattering of Chines WG's in Maggies. The reason they do no or next to no business is because they provide shitful service compared to the Mongols. You want a WG who will fuck you just as hard as you can fuck her? Then go Mongol.
A couple of Russians in M's also. Arina asking 2K for 2 hours. Did not talk to others.
Seems the black girls who were working at M's have been warned off =- we will need to try to get this changed.
THE DEN. Very quiet in terms of volume. Nothing before 10:30pm at earliest. Did see one super hot Mongol whilst I was talking to FA and his new wife. Missed her as she was soon snapped up. Ptrevious night I took a FABULOUS African girl from The Den. Best experience I have had in BJ in long time. This girl is a SUPERSTAR. Hit and miss. You will need to try your luck.
CHOCOLATE. Some great looking girls in here. Took none as the timing was just not right. As I was leaving with FA one night I saw the best looking girl that I have seen in BJ for a long time. Did not talk to her. I assume she working but she may have been a dance or civilian. But they way she was dressed and way she was walking it screamed HOOKER. Also hear that the African girls have been warned off from here also.
HOLLYWOOD. Did not go there. Will not go back til we can get their attitude to leaving with girls changed.
CENTRO. This is where you guys need to go 10pm on. Quite a few 'pleasent' ladies intermingled with the civilians. If you know what you looking for this is good.
BJ still plenty tp offer if you put in the effort. And still plenty quality available LT at RMB1, 000.
Now as for you guys who think underperforming whingeing whining complaining Chinese 'in-call / out-call' girls for 1 hour at RMB600 is value. You need to be certified. A Mongol from Maggies all night at RMB1, 000 who will fuck you like there is no tomorrow wins hands down. But still. Some guys just have no clue I guess.
Keep safe guys. Treat the girls well. They will look after you. They want you just as much as you want them.
I was in BJ nights Aug 17, 18 and 19. A quick update from my perspective.
MAGGIES: Several reports of recent about quality and pricing at Maggies:
QUALITY first. Still way down on what it was / could be. Still many girls in UB and things will change in 2 or 3 weeks when school in BJ starts again. Still some stars around. But I have fucked them all. What is still really missing in Maggies is the QUALITY TALL NEW YOUNG girls that used to consistently filter through. But it is what it is. I still found 2 greatr girls who provided FABULOUS service.
PRICING. Yes several girls are asking rediculous prices. 2K to 3K. Laugh at them and walk away. I paid RMB1, 000 LT for each girl I took on different nights. That is all you need to pay. Business is still very quiet. At 2 and 3K they are pricing themselves out of the market. You do not need pay this.
There is always a smattering of Chines WG's in Maggies. The reason they do no or next to no business is because they provide shitful service compared to the Mongols. You want a WG who will fuck you just as hard as you can fuck her? Then go Mongol.
A couple of Russians in M's also. Arina asking 2K for 2 hours. Did not talk to others.
Seems the black girls who were working at M's have been warned off =- we will need to try to get this changed.
THE DEN. Very quiet in terms of volume. Nothing before 10:30pm at earliest. Did see one super hot Mongol whilst I was talking to FA and his new wife. Missed her as she was soon snapped up. Ptrevious night I took a FABULOUS African girl from The Den. Best experience I have had in BJ in long time. This girl is a SUPERSTAR. Hit and miss. You will need to try your luck.
CHOCOLATE. Some great looking girls in here. Took none as the timing was just not right. As I was leaving with FA one night I saw the best looking girl that I have seen in BJ for a long time. Did not talk to her. I assume she working but she may have been a dance or civilian. But they way she was dressed and way she was walking it screamed HOOKER. Also hear that the African girls have been warned off from here also.
HOLLYWOOD. Did not go there. Will not go back til we can get their attitude to leaving with girls changed.
CENTRO. This is where you guys need to go 10pm on. Quite a few 'pleasent' ladies intermingled with the civilians. If you know what you looking for this is good.
BJ still plenty tp offer if you put in the effort. And still plenty quality available LT at RMB1, 000.
Now as for you guys who think underperforming whingeing whining complaining Chinese 'in-call / out-call' girls for 1 hour at RMB600 is value. You need to be certified. A Mongol from Maggies all night at RMB1, 000 who will fuck you like there is no tomorrow wins hands down. But still. Some guys just have no clue I guess.
Keep safe guys. Treat the girls well. They will look after you. They want you just as much as you want them.Nice report Billy, I was in that place you call a "shit hole", Tianjin, while you were in town. I quite like Tianjin, no accounting for taste I hear you say. Have you had a pint in "The Astor"? The piano bar at the back is a great spot, Chinese girl doing a respectable job of some jazz in English. I was there on a Tuesday night, so not much action, don't know whether any WGs would frequent that place, although there was one girl in shorts and skimpy top that would have looked way out of place in the glory days of that iconic establishment, apparently there is an Astor in Shanghai as well, many movies are shot there.
Was pretty pissed off though when I was presented with the bill for margaritas that included 15% service charge, WTF is happening in this country? Still a great nostalgic watering hole anyway, anyone know if there is WGs to be had in Tianjin? Any info on the mongering scene there would be appreciated. I had a freebie while I was there, but something lacking, even if she did still make a decent hole in the finances. Apparently, there is a town between Beijing and Tianjin, the name escapes me, that is in the same category as Yanjiao, many MPs etc. There, anyone know about that?
Went to the Den at about 9:00PM and had a beer and a pizza. Busy but only 1 girl that looked like she was working. Stopped and looked in Chocolate around 10:30 but was pretty dead. Went to Maggies at about 11:00. Sat at the bar as it was quiet and there were 2 young girls from Viet Nam. One was absolutely stunning and the other girl cute. A guy was talking to the stunning one but the other came over to talk to me. She started at 2000RMB not sure if it was Lt or ST as I offered 1000 and she countered with 1500. I said no and she left. The other one went with the guy probably for 2000 as he did not negotiate at all. The cute one did end up leaving with another guy around midnight but probably got her 1500. First time I have seen girls from VN in Maggies. The talent actually got quite good around 1:00 and I started looking for a young takeout. Talked to a nice slender girl and I offered her 1000 but she countered with 1500. Said no and she quickly said 1200 but I held firm. Found another great girl at the bar bought her a drink and asked if she wanted to go home with me. I said 1000 and she agreed but wanted me to buy shots for her and 2 friends. Quickly passed on that as I was not going to get drunk on shots. Found a real gem (J) that came in around 1:30. Young and great body. She said she wanted 2000 because she was new and she was young. I told her that she was young and not experienced so I would not pay that. Offered her 1000. She told me how good she was and I said sorry. Walked around and the young one had talked to about 3 other guys and not getting anywhere. She motioned for me to come over and said 1500. I told her 1200 but she had to stay until 10:00AM. She said OK but wanted the money upfront. Deal breaker said good bye. Walked around the bar and saw a girl that I had taken out on my last trip. 21 years old and great in bed. Small breasts but everything else good. Asked if she wanted to leave, said yes and we left no mention of money. Gave her 1000 in the morning and she was happy. Left at 9:30AM. I really think some guys are actually reading these posts. There were not alot of girls going home with guys and these young girls were getting turned down alot. I really think I could have gotten J out for the 1200 but I knew what I was getting with the one I took home. Overall a decent night at Maggies and a few great girls in there.
I had an unplanned night out with a Mongolian that I had once 3 years ago. I met her at the Pig around 10pm, which was pretty much deserted (2 Mongolians, around 6 Chinese, no stunners). We talked a while and then decided to go clubbing in Sanlitun.
Didn't find anything exciting, so we went to Chocolate around 12:30am where I had planned to leave her for work. She had actually asked me to accompany her into Chocolate, as Mongolians WG are not allowed in any more by the management. Apparently as they are too much of a competition for the Russian girls. No idea whether that is true. My company is half Mongolian and half Russian and is therefore well connected with the Russian WG scene. She told me that business is recently low at Chocolate, so prices have gone down. Many Russians would now agree on 800-1000 ST and 1500 LT. However, the talent at Chocolate last night was rather disappointing.
Throughout the evening, my company was complaining a lot about Maggies and how it had changed to the worse. Maggies management is no longer rejecting certain nationalities at the entrance, so there are recently a lot of Mongolians. This is creating a lot of irritation amongst the Mongolians, who are certainly not keen to meet their brothers or friends of their family there. Also Maggies' management is apparently now harassing the girls to push their customers into buying expensive drinks and is refusing them to come back if they don't. She was also complaining about more and more young Mongolians asking for crazy prices and being more pushy (e. G. Trying to steal customers while someone is going to the bathroom). Some Mongolians are apparently now avoiding Maggies and work other bars in BJ. The better ones often leave BJ for HK or Singapore, where they can earn a lot more.
No idea whether all of this is true or just her perception. But I really wonder what has happened to good ol' Maggies. I don't go there any more as I don't like the current atmosphere and setting with the band and hate to haggle with the girls on the price (as Canada just described in his post below).
Mtraveller
08-28-11, 05:44
I walked around a bit last night as this was my first evening in Beijing alone. I like to feel a city under my feet. Took me from Wangfujing all the way through to Chaoyang / World trade center.
Usual scam in the side roads of Wangfujing. Chocolate was dead at 21:30. Passing by "The place". There is actually one massage shop there right facing a busy main road with a girl in the window showing herself quite openly. Thought the LE were cracking down on so blatant advertising. Not on the mood for this anyway. Further on all the way to World Trade I met the ugly girls trying to sell their beautiful young friends, but Hotel delivery only. None of the actual girls around anymore. Seems LE was very efficient with regards to street walkers.
Conclusion, streets are dead as can be. The few Chinese in this business work in KTV or home delivery, but thats hit or miss as we all now.
PS: The way home in the subway was sweetened by watching many a cute girl on their way home.
At noon today the local TV Channel, Beijing TV, has reported the police has caught 24 girls and 26 men in Chaoyang District. These girls are young and beautiful and not so expensive, (400 RMB for 3 hours) , they belonged to 3 groups.
The police "special action angainst prostitutes" in Beijing has not finished, many shops and sauna dare not operate such business yet, only provide some normal services.
ShinichiOta
08-28-11, 08:40
I'm visiting BJ from Sept 10th to the 17th. If anyone wants to go bar hopping at any of the usual places, send me a PM!
Mate, I have tried few girls from this service so far. The girl I had recently gone by the name to do with wonderland. Others girls' name I just couldn't remember now as it was 9-12 months ago (last June and Sept) and they probably not longer working there. Well better keep it to yourself if you enjoy it to avoid being accused of misleading others!I've used Angel's service on several occasions before and my favorite also has to be the Wonderland girl as reported before by others on the forum. I've enjoyed her company a few times since and always satisfying encounters. Mid 20's, not too tall about 1. 6 m, tight body with about B size boobs, and nice skin.
Usually she starts off with a massage to set the mood, followed by BBBJ, before getting down to business. This girl can get pretty wild. Really seem to enjoys DATY, fucking, and usually has multiple orgasms. I especially like doing her doggie and enjoying the view at the same time. Getting hard just thinking about it now.
By the way last time she told me she started a blog called unforgettablebeijing. Blog. Com and put in a few pictures.
Some Mongolians are apparently now avoiding Maggies and work other bars in BJ.Great report, thanks. I'm getting itchy for an upcoming trip to BJ at the end of September. Did she by any chance tell you which other bars? I'm sure we'd all love to know!
I'm getting itchy for an upcoming trip to BJ at the end of September.Not the best time, I am afraid, in view of the October holidays.
Did she by any chance tell you which other bars? I'm sure we'd all love to know!No, she did not know what others are doing. She is moving between different places (Pigs, Suzy Wong.) and trying to go to Maggies max 3 times a week. She was also thinking of going to HK, where she worked before and apparently earned a lot of money (crazy stories BTW. There seem to be guys paying 10. 000 USD for only 24h of company. For that money, you could get a Mongolian live in with you for 3 months)
Some Mongolians are apparently now avoiding Maggies and work other bars in BJ. The better ones often leave BJ for HK or Singapore, where they can earn a lot more.It is true that some of the better Mongolian girls are avoiding Maggie's. This is simply a money isssue. Most guys at Maggie's these days are regulars rather than tourists. They know that paying over 1000 RMB is crazy. The girls now hit the bars where they are more likely to find tourists willing to pay tourist prices.
Good luck out there!
Sammy
It is true that some of the better Mongolian girls are avoiding Maggie's. This is simply a money isssue. Most guys at Maggie's these days are regulars rather than tourists. They know that paying over 1000 RMB is crazy. The girls now hit the bars where they are more likely to find tourists willing to pay tourist prices.
Good luck out there!
SammyGlad to see you posting again, Sammy.
I have to say, not only is this board good for recommendations on providers but very much so in other info as well. During a recent trip to Beijing a colleague and I were walking around the Forbidden City district (outside the walls) and we were approached by these 2 very cute girls who asked where we were from, what we were doing in Beijing etc, and they then proceeded to say that they were english students and would we like to join them for a few drinks in order to practice their english and it was extremely tempting as they were quiet flirtatious and cute, my colleague was extremely keen but I remembered reading on here about a ruse to get you to a bar / restaurant and then being saddled with a massive bill, which I explained to my colleague (didn't mention the source of the info, as did not know his take on mongering) we then proceeded to Hu-Hao (or however its spelt, the lakes area basically) where we found a nice cool reggae bar where we had a few beers and got chatting to 2 Shanghai girls in town for some partying and after a great night (they bought us drinks as well) they came back to our hotel for some fun and it did not cost a penny. So thank you ISG for saving us from getting ripped off.Congratulations on your escape, however would be great to get the better of these maggots, maybe play along and look for an opportunity to switch the roles. A report by someone way back pointed out that confronting the boss of the tea house / restaurant, making lots of noise and threats can work wonders if the place is busy, maybe they will pay you to go away? Threatening to call the police can work wonders, the Chinese are mighty afraid of them. As for the scammer, emptying out her wallet might teach her a valuable lesson, all in the timing of course.
Gualtier Malde
08-29-11, 11:06
Congratulations on your escape, however would be great to get the better of these maggots, maybe play along and look for an opportunity to switch the roles. A report by someone way back pointed out that confronting the boss of the tea house / restaurant, making lots of noise and threats can work wonders if the place is busy, maybe they will pay you to go away? Threatening to call the police can work wonders, the Chinese are mighty afraid of them. As for the scammer, emptying out her wallet might teach her a valuable lesson, all in the timing of course.Be very careful with this idea. I would not be surprised if those girls had minders watching them to keep them out of trouble. I once watched a guy get pinned up against a wall by what appeared to be a bodyguard who came out of nowhere when he confronted a teenaged pick pocketer in public. I would suspect the tea house girls might have similar protection lurking nearby.
My advice. Ignore them, move along, enjoy your vacation.
GM
I've used Angel's service on several occasions before and my favorite also has to be the Wonderland girl as reported before by others on the forum. I've enjoyed her company a few times since and always satisfying encounters. Mid 20's, not too tall about 1. 6 m, tight body with about B size boobs, and nice skin.
Usually she starts off with a massage to set the mood, followed by BBBJ, before getting down to business. This girl can get pretty wild. Really seem to enjoys DATY, fucking, and usually has multiple orgasms. I especially like doing her doggie and enjoying the view at the same time. Getting hard just thinking about it now.
By the way last time she told me she started a blog called unforgettablebeijing. Blog. Com and put in a few pictures.Hey, why don't you use the proper advert section? It's really tiring (and laughable).
It is true that some of the better Mongolian girls are avoiding Maggie's. This is simply a money isssue. Most guys at Maggie's these days are regulars rather than tourists. They know that paying over 1000 RMB is crazy. The girls now hit the bars where they are more likely to find tourists willing to pay tourist prices.What I don't get is: why didn't they do that already before? What has changed that they don't go to Maggies any more and work under the old conditions? Less regulars? More tourists? Different attitude?
Member #4144
08-29-11, 15:17
What I don't get is: why didn't they do that already before? What has changed that they don't go to Maggies any more and work under the old conditions? Less regulars? More tourists? Different attitude?I am happy to see that Sammy_T bravely spoke the truth! Better quality girls will not come to Maggie because that place is now flooded with older fatter WGs, maybe natural process for these WGs to get old and gain weight.
I would much rather pay more for a stunner, as I am a tourist and I can speak too, so please show me a stunner and I will be more happy to pay 1500 for ST, oK? For all those other WGs in Maggie I have seen so far? I would not have any of them even if they are FREE.
Now instead of just one simple destination, I have to hunt around different bars.
Fillmore
Be very careful with this idea. I would not be surprised if those girls had minders watching them to keep them out of trouble. I once watched a guy get pinned up against a wall by what appeared to be a bodyguard who came out of nowhere when he confronted a teenaged pick pocketer in public. I would suspect the tea house girls might have similar protection lurking nearby.
My advice. Ignore them, move along, enjoy your vacation.
GMI remember during my own experience, the girl got pretty panicky when I went outside to make a call. Didn't realize at the time, but she obviously thought I was onto her and was calling the police.
That is probably a good idea, shouldn't these honey traps be sorted out, there are still many visitors and tourists who are going to get caught by this scam, they probably don't read this forum. Do you propose GM that they should learn from experience while these parasites get richer?
Be very careful with this idea. I would not be surprised if those girls had minders watching them to keep them out of trouble. I once watched a guy get pinned up against a wall by what appeared to be a bodyguard who came out of nowhere when he confronted a teenaged pick pocketer in public. I would suspect the tea house girls might have similar protection lurking nearby.
My advice. Ignore them, move along, enjoy your vacation.
GMIt's a real pity that the PSB boys don't spend more time cleaning this type of operation up, and leave the, at least honest, BBS MPs alone
It is true that some of the better Mongolian girls are avoiding Maggie's. This is simply a money isssue. Most guys at Maggie's these days are regulars rather than tourists. They know that paying over 1000 RMB is crazy. The girls now hit the bars where they are more likely to find tourists willing to pay tourist prices.
Good luck out there!
SammyAny ideas where they're going?
. Place is now flooded with older fatter WGs, maybe natural process for these WGs to get old and gain weight.
FillmoreBecoming a working girl is the lazy way to make money anyway, so naturally when they age to the point where they'd have to exercise to lose weight, it probably ain't going to happen.
This job is supposed to be a mistake that young naive girls make. It's not supposed to be a life long career. IMHO, they should come stamped with an expiration date, or maybe a hand blinker like Logan's Run. When the red light turns solid, time to find a new job. It shouldn't be 25, but I think by early 30s it starts to get sad.
Becoming a working girl is the lazy way to make money anyway, so naturally when they age to the point where they'd have to exercise to lose weight, it probably ain't going to happen.
This job is supposed to be a mistake that young naive girls make. It's not supposed to be a life long career. IMHO, they should come stamped with an expiration date, or maybe a hand blinker like Logan's Run. When the red light turns solid, time to find a new job. It shouldn't be 25, but I think by early 30s it starts to get sad.I would dispute the opinion that becoming a working girl is the 'lazy' way to make money.
I am not one to sympathize much over who I bang. But I do understand why they do it. The practical reason.
Indeed, some, or a lot maybe do it because it is the easy way to get money.
But ask any working girl if they want to do it if they have other choice available for them, I have serious doubt any will answer yes.
They know full well that a stable job up to their 60s and a husband cannot replace a limited working period relying on their fornicating ability up till 35 to 40. Regardless, they are trapped.
He is right that it gets sad when it hit 30s. They have no job resume to speak of, no experience or education, and no marriage prospect. That will be the story for most of them.
Unluckier ones will have children early and work hard in the profession to give the kid a chance. It is for such women that I am against the argument that they are 'lazy'.
It is one thing if they could scale down their living standards and chose not to. I am speaking of some who has debts before they even get started in the profession and the profession is the fastest way to at least keep them afloat until they have something figured out.
My arguments could run for tens of thousands of words.
I also realize that despite all the altruistic and sympathetic words I wrote above, I screw them just the same, paid the money then said next time again, maybe.
The forum has never recommended personal attacks, and I loathe to start one.
I just want Stegram to notice that he was a little too critical in his assessment. Not making him a bad guy at all, just a little too strong on his words maybe.
I would dispute the opinion that becoming a working girl is the 'lazy' way to make money.
I am not one to sympathize much over who I bang. But I do understand why they do it. The practical reason.
Indeed, some, or a lot maybe do it because it is the easy way to get money.
But ask any working girl if they want to do it if they have other choice available for them, I have serious doubt any will answer yes.
They know full well that a stable job up to their 60s and a husband cannot replace a limited working period relying on their fornicating ability up till 35 to 40. Regardless, they are trapped.
He is right that it gets sad when it hit 30s. They have no job resume to speak of, no experience or education, and no marriage prospect. That will be the story for most of them.
Unluckier ones will have children early and work hard in the profession to give the kid a chance. It is for such women that I am against the argument that they are 'lazy'.
It is one thing if they could scale down their living standards and chose not to. I am speaking of some who has debts before they even get started in the profession and the profession is the fastest way to at least keep them afloat until they have something figured out.
My arguments could run for tens of thousands of words.
I also realize that despite all the altruistic and sympathetic words I wrote above, I screw them just the same, paid the money then said next time again, maybe.
The forum has never recommended personal attacks, and I loathe to start one.
I just want Stegram to notice that he was a little too critical in his assessment. Not making him a bad guy at all, just a little too strong on his words maybe.Excellent assessment, Valkyrie.
I have met many WGs in China. Almost all have been sweet, some to the point of falling in love with me (or at, subtly falling in love with my wallet).
They have a set of material expectations which, they feel, have to be met (child back home, recent divorce, desire for designer clothes, few qualifications / not enough educational background). This is probably the easiest way for them to do that, but it is not without its risks.
Just my experience.
P13
Gualtier Malde
08-30-11, 07:05
I remember during my own experience, the girl got pretty panicky when I went outside to make a call. Didn't realize at the time, but she obviously thought I was onto her and was calling the police.
That is probably a good idea, shouldn't these honey traps be sorted out, there are still many visitors and tourists who are going to get caught by this scam, they probably don't read this forum. Do you propose GM that they should learn from experience while these parasites get richer?I don't really propose anything. I think our little army of mongers starting a "confront them" campaign will accomplish nothing, but could get someone hurt. The dude that came to the protection of the pickpockets was quite violent. I wouldn't want to see any of my brethren here accosted like that.
Tourists will always get scammed, one way or another. This is China.
GM
I don't really propose anything. I think our little army of mongers starting a "confront them" campaign will accomplish nothing, but could get someone hurt. The dude that came to the protection of the pickpockets was quite violent. I wouldn't want to see any of my brethren here accosted like that.
Tourists will always get scammed, one way or another. This is China.
GMIt still annoys the shit out of me that these scumbags get away with this, probably still wondering how it could happen to a smart guy like me, the wound is still open. Protecting the brothers from this is my motivation.
I do think that letting them know, that you know what they are is the least we can do?
I would dispute the opinion that becoming a working girl is the 'lazy' way to make money.
I am not one to sympathize much over who I bang. But I do understand why they do it. The practical reason.
Indeed, some, or a lot maybe do it because it is the easy way to get money.
But ask any working girl if they want to do it if they have other choice available for them, I have serious doubt any will answer yes.
They know full well that a stable job up to their 60s and a husband cannot replace a limited working period relying on their fornicating ability up till 35 to 40. Regardless, they are trapped.
He is right that it gets sad when it hit 30s. They have no job resume to speak of, no experience or education, and no marriage prospect. That will be the story for most of them.
Unluckier ones will have children early and work hard in the profession to give the kid a chance. It is for such women that I am against the argument that they are 'lazy'.
It is one thing if they could scale down their living standards and chose not to. I am speaking of some who has debts before they even get started in the profession and the profession is the fastest way to at least keep them afloat until they have something figured out.
My arguments could run for tens of thousands of words.
I also realize that despite all the altruistic and sympathetic words I wrote above, I screw them just the same, paid the money then said next time again, maybe.
The forum has never recommended personal attacks, and I loathe to start one.
I just want Stegram to notice that he was a little too critical in his assessment. Not making him a bad guy at all, just a little too strong on his words maybe.Thanks for the well thought out response, Valkyrie. I live in the USA, but occasionally travel to China. I would venture to say in hindsight that my comments should be more directed towards American working girls than the Asian ones. There are opportunities here in the USA for just about anyone to earn a modest living if they are willing to put in the work. And while I recognize my statement was a broad generalization which one should never do, among the WGs here in the USA that I have known, along with the strippers, the common thread has always been EASY MONEY.
However, I have also known Chinese WGs that could easily have gotten a real jobs with their looks. Unlike here, in China it seems that discrimination based on appearance is widely accepted. Pretty girls can work in hotels, airlines and fancy restaurants while not so pretty girls are at McDonalds or in the factory. And then these pretty, young working girls I often see buying expensive western cloths and shoes with the easy money they make. NOT sending it home to feed the family. My experience is not as vast as many on this board so I by no means present this observation as fact. It's just what I've noticed.
All that being said, my words were meant as light commentary to amuse and be read by mongers only. I always treat WGs with respect and kindness.
Thanks for the well thought out response, Valkyrie. I live in the USA, but occasionally travel to China. I would venture to say in hindsight that my comments should be more directed towards American working girls than the Asian ones. There are opportunities here in the USA for just about anyone to earn a modest living if they are willing to put in the work. And while I recognize my statement was a broad generalization which one should never do, among the WGs here in the USA that I have known, along with the strippers, the common thread has always been EASY MONEY.
However, I have also known Chinese WGs that could easily have gotten a real jobs with their looks. Unlike here, in China it seems that discrimination based on appearance is widely accepted. Pretty girls can work in hotels, airlines and fancy restaurants while not so pretty girls are at McDonalds or in the factory. And then these pretty, young working girls I often see buying expensive western cloths and shoes with the easy money they make. NOT sending it home to feed the family. My experience is not as vast as many on this board so I by no means present this observation as fact. It's just what I've noticed.
All that being said, my words were meant as light commentary to amuse and be read by mongers only. I always treat WGs with respect and kindness.It is actually the complete reverse for me. I had never been to USA at all and thus cannot know what influence your opinions. I would simply wrap this up and chalk it to cultural differences.
That being said. I had a direct supply of information regarding working girls that have part-time job and one of them, a full-time job as an entrepreneur. Obviously she had fallen on pretty hard times for her to resort to choosing nightime profession. For her, I am sure she will eventually pick up the pieces and move on from the profession, I hope without ever being discovered by anyone.
For part-time girls, the job market apparently was more difficult than I thought. I believe I mentioned the trade off between education and easy money over their current line of work. It is in this case that the choice comes back to haunt them. Most of them cannot get a high paid job as they are not educated at all. I know of plenty that paid themselves through school with the profession. The problem is, not many could let go of the easy money and dig in for the long haul. I believe this girls would be the ones who will be embittered and hardened ladies in their 30s.
For part time girls, their legitimate profession simply could not grant them financial security in the long run. I feel it is hard for the girls to stick to part time job that require them to sit some three days a week for six hours each while the same amount and more could be made by a single night of looking pretty, being happy, having fun, and being paid for enjoying themselves if they are lucky. I am going by the standard of M's girls. As for the story behind barbershops, I could not comment as I had never been to one and despite the cheap price, I am not looking forward to it. I have a feeling that working in barbershop for most of the girls borders a little towards abuse.
Sort of funny that I want to screw girls and leave with clear conscience, but that is the truth.
The most legitimate story I have got here, was a girl in M that only appear only when she is in a pinch near the end of the month. Apparently she was let go from the job and then, had unpaid rent for three months and will be evicted within three days, thus, having to make the money fast. Unfortunately, the incentive to work hard was not enough to bring me to orgasm. She was put behind the 'friends only' line, no chance of repeat performance. Drinks still goes to her though, as I she always has twin rockets that never fails to impress.
Coming back to the point. This is where the wicked cycle actually reveals itself.
Most of working girls, excepting from Thailand in general, they still have their sense of shame in the inside. They could not really send 5000RMB in a month when they are claiming to be a regular office worker that makes about that amount (I am assuming as I have no idea how much actually regular workers in China are making in a month) , sending it in full. I would like to think the family at home will have a little suspicion that she has to be working on something that is not quite she was claiming to be as she sent the money in full without cutting down food and rent. Thus, sending 2000RMB a month to family over the countryside. Enough money to last them a comfortable month over there, and leaving them with a lot of leftover money in their hand that they have no idea what to do.
The thing with leftover income is, it is hard to not spend them. The girls were making so much money than they are sending home, even cutting all expenses, still a lot. Apparently whether for self-preservation of sanity or inability to see long term future when new in the profession, a lot of girls spend their hard earned money on what Stegram said, luxury items they do not really need. It is one thing to buy some clothes as an investment for themselves looking good in front of a prospective customer. Cursory check on a lot will reveal they overspend and if some of mongers here ever been into their home, they will notice that their closet will be disproportionately expensive.
Of course they will learn over time. The question will be whether they will curb their habit fast enough and save for their future as their active years shortening or they will end up as the hardened and embittered women in their 30s that most mongers will avoid.
A little nugget of information, a small talk with a spearmint rhino stripper over in Melbourne a couple years ago, she said to me that she made over AUD 100, 000 a year easy from being a stripper. Definitely more than my yearly salary at the moment.
. Unlike here, in China it seems that discrimination based on appearance is widely accepted. Pretty girls can work in hotels, airlines and fancy restaurants while not so pretty girls are at McDonalds or in the factory. And then these pretty, young working girls I often see buying expensive western cloths and shoes with the easy money they make. NOT sending it home to feed the family. My experience is not as vast as many on this board so I by no means present this observation as fact. It's just what I've noticed.Watching the USA as a foreigner I could observe instead that it might not be by chance that the receptionists and watresses of medium-high end restaurant are often on the "beauty" than in the "ugly" level. The lattest are often seen in McDonald or alikes. Maybe I am spoiled by old Europe, where it is rare to find cute girls being a waitress or a receptionist in a restaurant.
Coul djust be that a lot are students or whatever, but those cuties do not stand there un-noticed and I can not notice the same back home.
This as much as USA are concerned and seen.
I might second your opinion on China, tho'.
I finally made the trek out to Yanjiao last Friday to check out Roman Holiday (ÂÞÂí¼ÙÈÕ). Was it worth it? Yes, as an experience, but the time and effort involved getting there and back is a disincentive to frequent visits. The trip there from my door there and back to my door was five hours, for a 90 minute session. That's not a great ratio when you're time-poor. The biggest delay was waiting for the 930 bus on the way to Yanjiao (coming back was much better, for some reason) ; there was an enormous queue of people waiting at the bus stop just east of the third ring road and very, very few buses (maybe Friday afternoon wasn't the best time to try this out). If you have a car, driving to and from Yanjiao would presumably greatly reduce the travelling time to mongering time ratio.
Once there, I found Roman Holiday easily enough, and it was very much as described by previous ISG posters. Change shoes, go round to the shower area, get undressed and shower, lounge in the tubs if you want (I didn't) , then stroll over to a small landing at the opposite side of the shower area entrance where young chaps will provide a towel and pyjamas (pleasingly, they didn't try to make me pay for disposable ones the way many saunas do). Then upstairs to the 3rd level, where I was shown into a standard sort of sauna room, reasonably clean and well-kept. I told the young chap who led me into the room that I wanted the rmb600 option.
The best part of the experience was the line-up: I didn't count, but there must have been at least a dozen girls, all dressed in tight blue uniforms, lined up around the bed for me to choose. (I know this is par for the course down South, but in Beijing you're doing well if you get a line-up of more than three girls.) Sometimes too much choice is almost overwhelming, but, after some hesitation, I chose a cute, young, almost doll-like girl from Heilongjiang. I knew I was taking a bit of a chance, as the really cute, really young girls sometimes give less enthusiastic service than other girls. Still, she was just sooo cute. As it happened, the service was fine, without being outstanding. We got on OK, but didn't really hit it off, the way you do sometimes with sauna girls. The service was standard sauna fare, cat bath, tit massage, rimming (I declined; not my thing) , then BBBJ and FS. After the deed, we chatted for a while. She said she was 20 years old, and had been "back at the sauna" for four months. She clarified that this meant she'd worked there for sometime already, then had gone back home for a few months, before coming back to Yanjiao again. She told me not many laowai found their way out to Yanjiao, but for some reason those that did come often picked her. Certainly, she didn't seem to have any of that "Oh, my God, a laowai!" attitude when I picked her out in the line-up.
Early on in the session, we had a confusing discussion about price when she tried to persuade me to invite another girl in, I asked how much it would cost, and she said double, ie, another rmb600. I thought this was a bit rich, since almost all saunas give some degree of discount (at the place near the Kempinski frequented by quite a few foreigners, the additional price for a second girl is almost half the price of a single one) , so I declined. She came back to the theme a few minutes later, and said,"You can pay what you like, as little as rmb388, if you want". I couldn't make head or tail of this, and anyway wasn't really in the mood. It was only after we'd done the deed, and were lying on the bed chatting that she explained it to me. Because there's various prices for various degrees of service (eg, rmb388 is, I think, BJ and FS) , this applies also to a second girl. In other words, if you chose the rmb600 service for one girl, as I did, but elect to pay rmb388 for the second girl, then the first one will do the full service (cat bath, etc, etc) , but second one will just do the 388 service; so presumably girl no. 2 would sit about making conversation while girl no. 1 was doing cat bath, etc, but then would come to life when it came time to do BJ and FS. While I now understand it, I don't this approach terribly attractive; I think it would encourage a mechanical approach on the part of the girls, which is precisely what I don't like sometimes about trips to Chinese saunas.
She suggested we wrap up the session a bit before the 90 minute mark, which was fine by me as we'd just about run out of things to talk about and I was conscious of the long haul back to Beijing. The total cost was rmb633 (600 for the session + 28 entrance fee + 5 for a can of coke).
I finally made the trek out to Yanjiao last Friday to check out Roman Holiday (ÂÞÂí¼ÙÈÕ). Was it worth it? Yes, as an experience, but the time and effort involved getting there and back is a disincentive to frequent visits. The trip there from my door there and back to my door was five hours, for a 90 minute session. That's not a great ratio when you're time-poor. The biggest delay was waiting for the 930 bus on the way to Yanjiao (coming back was much better, for some reason) ; there was an enormous queue of people waiting at the bus stop just east of the third ring road and very, very few buses (maybe Friday afternoon wasn't the best time to try this out). If you have a car, driving to and from Yanjiao would presumably greatly reduce the travelling time to mongering time ratio.
Once there, I found Roman Holiday easily enough, and it was very much as described by previous ISG posters. Change shoes, go round to the shower area, get undressed and shower, lounge in the tubs if you want (I didn't) , then stroll over to a small landing at the opposite side of the shower area entrance where young chaps will provide a towel and pyjamas (pleasingly, they didn't try to make me pay for disposable ones the way many saunas do). Then upstairs to the 3rd level, where I was shown into a standard sort of sauna room, reasonably clean and well-kept. I told the young chap who led me into the room that I wanted the rmb600 option.
The best part of the experience was the line-up: I didn't count, but there must have been at least a dozen girls, all dressed in tight blue uniforms, lined up around the bed for me to choose. (I know this is par for the course down South, but in Beijing you're doing well if you get a line-up of more than three girls.) Sometimes too much choice is almost overwhelming, but, after some hesitation, I chose a cute, young, almost doll-like girl from Heilongjiang. I knew I was taking a bit of a chance, as the really cute, really young girls sometimes give less enthusiastic service than other girls. Still, she was just sooo cute. As it happened, the service was fine, without being outstanding. We got on OK, but didn't really hit it off, the way you do sometimes with sauna girls. The service was standard sauna fare, cat bath, tit massage, rimming (I declined; not my thing) , then BBBJ and FS. After the deed, we chatted for a while. She said she was 20 years old, and had been "back at the sauna" for four months. She clarified that this meant she'd worked there for sometime already, then had gone back home for a few months, before coming back to Yanjiao again. She told me not many laowai found their way out to Yanjiao, but for some reason those that did come often picked her. Certainly, she didn't seem to have any of that "Oh, my God, a laowai!" attitude when I picked her out in the line-up.
Early on in the session, we had a confusing discussion about price when she tried to persuade me to invite another girl in, I asked how much it would cost, and she said double, ie, another rmb600. I thought this was a bit rich, since almost all saunas give some degree of discount (at the place near the Kempinski frequented by quite a few foreigners, the additional price for a second girl is almost half the price of a single one) , so I declined. She came back to the theme a few minutes later, and said,"You can pay what you like, as little as rmb388, if you want". I couldn't make head or tail of this, and anyway wasn't really in the mood. It was only after we'd done the deed, and were lying on the bed chatting that she explained it to me. Because there's various prices for various degrees of service (eg, rmb388 is, I think, BJ and FS) , this applies also to a second girl. In other words, if you chose the rmb600 service for one girl, as I did, but elect to pay rmb388 for the second girl, then the first one will do the full service (cat bath, etc, etc) , but second one will just do the 388 service; so presumably girl no. 2 would sit about making conversation while girl no. 1 was doing cat bath, etc, but then would come to life when it came time to do BJ and FS. While I now understand it, I don't this approach terribly attractive; I think it would encourage a mechanical approach on the part of the girls, which is precisely what I don't like sometimes about trips to Chinese saunas.
She suggested we wrap up the session a bit before the 90 minute mark, which was fine by me as we'd just about run out of things to talk about and I was conscious of the long haul back to Beijing. The total cost was rmb633 (600 for the session + 28 entrance fee + 5 for a can of coke).I cruised out to Yanjiao on Sunday afternoon, went to the usual haunt Si Lu Hua Yu. I always enjoy this place it has a relaxing atmosphere, and to know that anytime you feel like it you can slip upstairs and choose a girl and bang her, somehow seems like the way life was meant to be? Couple of beers and a rest and then upstairs for a look see. The lineup was a bit disappointing that day, however I selected a skinny little thing that needed a good feed and a good f*k, I provided some cold sausage and gave her a good seeing to. She was OK without being memorable but a reasonable start to the night. Y188.
Back down stairs, found my favorite massage girl, foot and leg massage, she was in good form, then off together for the Thai treatment. This girl is great, terrific massage although I think she popped one of my ribs when she was walking on my back, then some great HJ and other things that she really isn't supposed to do, that was the highlight, and I would be happy to spend all night just playing with her, that's the plan for next time. Although there is a big tall pretty Mongolian working there sometimes that I plan to partake of, she is hot, legs like a giraffe and pretty, my mate grabbed her the first time I saw her, and she wasn't around on Sunday, hope she hasn't flown the coup. Massage with special extras Y168, remember though that I have spent more than one session with her and things get hotter each time, you need to establish a relationship of sorts with these girls. 3 beers added, damage around Y400. I think by the sounds of it Tieji you paid more for less at Roman Holiday, although the girl sounds like she might be cuter than the one I chose.
I heard a story about Fucheng Spa, apparently this is the best, The girls are selected on a strict criteria eg. They must be 1. 7 mtrs and have all the right stuff in the right places Y600 there too, have to have a look at that. BTW, spotted two tall skinny black girls in the Bridge Cafe tonight, chocolate lovers, in you go.
Any chance of getting direvtions to this place?
I cruised out to Yanjiao on Sunday afternoon, went to the usual haunt Si Lu Hua Yu. I always enjoy this place it has a relaxing atmosphere, and to know that anytime you feel like it you can slip upstairs and choose a girl and bang her, somehow seems like the way life was meant to be? Couple of beers and a rest and then upstairs for a look see. The lineup was a bit disappointing that day, however I selected a skinny little thing that needed a good feed and a good f*k, I provided some cold sausage and gave her a good seeing to. She was OK without being memorable but a reasonable start to the night. Y188.
Back down stairs, found my favorite massage girl, foot and leg massage, she was in good form, then off together for the Thai treatment. This girl is great, terrific massage although I think she popped one of my ribs when she was walking on my back, then some great HJ and other things that she really isn't supposed to do, that was the highlight, and I would be happy to spend all night just playing with her, that's the plan for next time. Although there is a big tall pretty Mongolian working there sometimes that I plan to partake of, she is hot, legs like a giraffe and pretty, my mate grabbed her the first time I saw her, and she wasn't around on Sunday, hope she hasn't flown the coup. Massage with special extras Y168, remember though that I have spent more than one session with her and things get hotter each time, you need to establish a relationship of sorts with these girls. 3 beers added, damage around Y400. I think by the sounds of it Tieji you paid more for less at Roman Holiday, although the girl sounds like she might be cuter than the one I chose.
I heard a story about Fucheng Spa, apparently this is the best, The girls are selected on a strict criteria eg. They must be 1. 7 mtrs and have all the right stuff in the right places Y600 there too, have to have a look at that. BTW, spotted two tall skinny black girls in the Bridge Cafe tonight, chocolate lovers, in you go.
Any ideas where they're going?Suzzy Wong's, Xue, Vic's, Centro. Places like that.
Good Luck!
Sammy
I know most of the mongers here won't be interested, but hey, there's always some of the unique few around.
Planning on trying out a KTV suggested by someone I know, it's a CAT 500 joint just beyond the North 2nd Ring Road. (CAT 500 means you pay the girl 500RMB for her time spent with you in the KTV)
Of course it's not everyone's cup of tea and only the most adventurous of non-Chinese speaking people try it. And it's definitely not the sort that ensures getting laid either. That could be arranged but the cost could definitely be higher than the 1, 000RMB that's been touted to be possible at certain places. The main bit about it is to have a little fun, a good amount of alcohol, singing karaoke songs be it in English or Mandarin or whichever language you can pull off and the company of a fairly attractive girl. Note to those who have been to places like Changping in Dongguan, there's a fair amount of difference between there and here, but if you want and are willing to fork out the money, it's still possible to find a lady who would go back with you, possible but oftentimes rare.
Anyway, just seeing if I can round up a few guys from ISG who are interested and have some time on Friday or Saturday night. Usual system, drop me your number in a PM and I'll get back to you if there's enough interest and inform you of all relevant details.
Member #4144
09-01-11, 14:30
Suzzy Wong's, Xue, Vic's, Centro. Places like that.
Good Luck!
SammyI have not been to the others, but the several times I went over to Suzzy Wong, I did see some classy ladies there alone at or around the bar. I was not able to get their attention though, as I think they were looking for foreigners and I don't look like one, being Chinese American. But these girls I saw were real stunners and you never see such at Maggies.
Fillmore
Member #4144
09-01-11, 14:33
I know most of the mongers here won't be interested, but hey, there's always some of the unique few around.
Planning on trying out a KTV suggested by someone I know, it's a CAT 500 joint just beyond the North 2nd Ring Road. (CAT 500 means you pay the girl 500RMB for her time spent with you in the KTV)
Of course it's not everyone's cup of tea and only the most adventurous of non-Chinese speaking people try it. And it's definitely not the sort that ensures getting laid either. That could be arranged but the cost could definitely be higher than the 1, 000RMB that's been touted to be possible at certain places. The main bit about it is to have a little fun, a good amount of alcohol, singing karaoke songs be it in English or Mandarin or whichever language you can pull off and the company of a fairly attractive girl. Note to those who have been to places like Changping in Dongguan, there's a fair amount of difference between there and here, but if you want and are willing to fork out the money, it's still possible to find a lady who would go back with you, possible but oftentimes rare.
Anyway, just seeing if I can round up a few guys from ISG who are interested and have some time on Friday or Saturday night. Usual system, drop me your number in a PM and I'll get back to you if there's enough interest and inform you of all relevant details.I would be very interested but I usually just go through BJ to fly back to US, so my timing is not flexible. CAT 500 would suggest a 5/15/20 system and mimimum room charge around 1500? Plus tips to mami and DJ and busboy right?
Fillmore
I would be very interested but I usually just go through BJ to fly back to US, so my timing is not flexible. CAT 500 would suggest a 5/15/20 system and mimimum room charge around 1500? Plus tips to mami and DJ and busboy right?
FillmorePretty much, just checking on interest levels for this week, I usually keep in contact with those who are keen and I've got a bunch of friends that go out from time to time if they're down in Beijing. Let me know the next time you stop by and I'll include you in. And for the rate, pretty much what you stated, but there's opportunities to get free additional drinks from the mamasans.
Any chance of getting direvtions to this place?Sure, there are many posts about how to get there if you look back, it is not easy, if you are looking for the simplest way, go to Guomao, get a taxi, get the name in Chinese use Google translate, notebook, print it show to taxi driver.
Or more difficult but cheaper option, subway line to Dawanglu, find bus 930 direct version to Yanjiao, you will have to know where to get off in Yanjiao, then taxi. It is a bit of a mission, (if you can't speak Chinese,) to get there but worth it if you want it all. I have been suggesting finding a good cheap transport system, maybe the best idea is Nameci's get a group and get a taxi van or similar from Guomao on a Saturday or Sunday, anyone who wanted to go, just turn up at a set time. Reminds me; Nameci did I see you getting into a taxi in Zhonguancun with a long legged amazon last week, looked like a KTV girl, had that sort of "I know you all want to F*k me" look? And you had that "Oh well. I can always sell a kidney" look?
Dynamic: Haven't been to Zhongguancun for the last couple of months so I highly doubt it was me, plus I wouldn't sell a kidney for a girl that's for sure. Haha. She must have been quite a looker hen.
Silu huayu (Silk dew, flowers and rain). Here's pictures of the inside of the place http://bbs.yjoo.cn/thread-5473-1-1.html (Dynamic, are they for real? I haven't been there). According to the poster, it's 50m south of the intersection of Hanwang lu and Haiyou dajie, which puts it about 2km north of the main road (guodao) where the 930 bus will drop you before it turns. I think it's 2 traffic lights beyond where the bus drops you off, and then left. You can look at Yanjiao on Google Maps if you type in "Yanjiaozhen, Langfang, Hebei, China," and it has bilingual place names and street names. A lot of your are curious about Yanjiao and this gives you the lay of the land.
Mao don't.
Sure, there are many posts about how to get there if you look back, it is not easy, if you are looking for the simplest way, go to Guomao, get a taxi, get the name in Chinese use Google translate, notebook, print it show to taxi driver. .
Silu huayu (Silk dew, flowers and rain). Here's pictures of the inside of the place.
http://bbs.yjoo.cn/thread-5473-1-1.html
(Dynamic, are they for real? I haven't been there). According to the poster, it's 50m south of the intersection of Hanwang lu and Haiyou dajie, which puts it about 2km north of the main road (guodao) where the 930 bus will drop you before it turns. I think it's 2 traffic lights beyond where the bus drops you off, and then left. You can look at Yanjiao on Google Maps if you type in "Yanjiaozhen, Langfang, Hebei, China," and it has bilingual place names and street names. A lot of your are curious about Yanjiao and this gives you the lay of the land.
Mao don't.Mate sorry to say this is complete bullshit if it is claiming to be the one I have named, Si Lu Hua Yu. If you are expecting anything like this you are going to be sorely disappointed. Like to know if the one in the pics in in Yanjiao though? Doubt it, looks like somewhere in US or Europe. Why do they do this? They provide good service for the cost, that should be enough?
Has anyone seen a place like this in Yanjiao?
Your directions are well done, although it seems to be a good 10 minute taxi ride from the bus stop. I certainly would not try it on foot.
Dynamic: Haven't been to Zhongguancun for the last couple of months so I highly doubt it was me, plus I wouldn't sell a kidney for a girl that's for sure. Haha. She must have been quite a looker hen.Yeah she was hot, thought she looked a bit rich for you, but I know you are a keen KTV man so it was possible.
BruceKnight
09-02-11, 11:43
Hey guys.
Can someone give a few pointers. I will be in beijing next week and wanted to know if things have calm down with police crackdowns.
Also if I do outcalls.
1. Can someone recommend an outcall service I have been looking at the cityweekend / beijing classifieds. Are they reliable services.
2. Also if there a specific hour during the day it is not safe get an outcall girl sent to your hotel. I don't want to cops to arrest me.
3. Also is there a chance the outcall girl will bring her pimp or someone that may wait for her outside hotel. I don't want to get robbed or have kidney stolen LOL.
I will be in a cheap hotel so am guessing there won't be any security.
4. Whats better incall suana, hair saloon or outcall girls. I just think incall would be since you can see the girls first. I read for outcall if you don't like the girl you can send her back but will have to pay 100rmb for taxi. Thats a rip off. Am I wrong?
5. By chance just a fantasy of mine is it possible to hook up with a virgin girl over there. Would outcall service have them?
5. Does anyone know a good bar to watch soccer games I don't want to miss the champions league but with the time difference it will start around 4 am beijing time I don't know anything will be open or if it will be safe to be outside. Since ill be out on my own over there.
Last I was thinking maybe someone should start a thread of the working girls they have been with and notice or have gotten an STD from them. Just to help each other out.
Thanks to all
Bad Boy Billy
09-02-11, 23:52
Hey guys.Can someone give a few pointers.Pointer No 1. GROW UP.
5. Does anyone know a good bar to watch soccer games I don't want to miss the champions league but with the time difference it will start around 4 am beijing time I don't know anything will be open or if it will be safe to be outside. Since ill be out on my own over there.The Den is open 24/7 with TV's showing any sport you want. All you need to do is ask. Seems you won't have any problems in that department.
Hi bros,
Was just wondering if anyone of ya' know where to bang Korean girls in Beijing. I know there are a lot of Koreans in WJ and I've tried the famous 400s there but couldn't find any koreans there. Any of you have had any luck or know the whereabouts? Would be grateful if anyone could point to the right direction.
By the way, if you're looking for FS, ask for no. 16 in 419 in WJ. Girl is average, I'd say but pretty small tits. She was a pretty wild one though, almost tried to bite my chin! Would cost you 300 (pay to the girl) + 160 at the front counter. Other girls there only do HJ / HE, I think.
Hey guys.
Can someone give a few pointers. I will be in beijing next week and wanted to know if things have calm down with police crackdowns.
Also if I do outcalls.
1. Can someone recommend an outcall service I have been looking at the cityweekend / beijing classifieds. Are they reliable services.
2. Also if there a specific hour during the day it is not safe get an outcall girl sent to your hotel. I don't want to cops to arrest me.
3. Also is there a chance the outcall girl will bring her pimp or someone that may wait for her outside hotel. I don't want to get robbed or have kidney stolen LOL.
I will be in a cheap hotel so am guessing there won't be any security.
4. Whats better incall suana, hair saloon or outcall girls. I just think incall would be since you can see the girls first. I read for outcall if you don't like the girl you can send her back but will have to pay 100rmb for taxi. Thats a rip off. Am I wrong?
5. By chance just a fantasy of mine is it possible to hook up with a virgin girl over there. Would outcall service have them?
5. Does anyone know a good bar to watch soccer games I don't want to miss the champions league but with the time difference it will start around 4 am beijing time I don't know anything will be open or if it will be safe to be outside. Since ill be out on my own over there.
Last I was thinking maybe someone should start a thread of the working girls they have been with and notice or have gotten an STD from them. Just to help each other out.
Thanks to all2. Also if there a specific hour during the day it is not safe get an outcall girl sent to your hotel. I don't want to cops to arrest me.
As long as you are not staying in cheap hotels, you are safe. Better still. 5 star international hotels like Marriott, Westin, Hyatt, etc.
3. Also is there a chance the outcall girl will bring her pimp or someone that may wait for her outside hotel. I don't want to get robbed or have kidney stolen LOL.
I won't do that. My girl takes taxi to your hotel, so she is alone.
I will be in a cheap hotel so am guessing there won't be any security.
Cheap hotels are not safe.
4. Whats better incall suana, hair saloon or outcall girls. I just think incall would be since you can see the girls first. I read for outcall if you don't like the girl you can send her back but will have to pay 100rmb for taxi. Thats a rip off. Am I wrong?
100rmb = 15usd, you called that a rip off? She has to take a taxi from her home to your hotel, and then back to her home. With the heavy traffic in Beijing, she needs an hour of travel time.
5. By chance just a fantasy of mine is it possible to hook up with a virgin girl over there. Would outcall service have them?
Yes that can be arranged in advanced, but you won't be able to afford it. If you think that 15usd is a rip off, wait till you know how much a 17 years old virgin is going to cost you.
Take it easy man. Being familiar with the layout of Yanjiao I was just trying to clarify how to get there. In the process I found the pics on a blog matched with the right name (Si lu huayu is not a common name) and location on Hanwang lu near Haiyou dajie. Not having been there I would not know if that's what it looks like. It didn't look that great to me; I figured either it was the architect's rendering or photos taken right after it was finished. Apart from the swimming pool which I thought was a stretch, the decor style and scale is not inconsistent with what I've seen in such places, only without the wear and tear.
Mate sorry to say this is complete bullshit if it is claiming to be the one I have named, Si Lu Hua Yu. If you are expecting anything like this you are going to be sorely disappointed. Like to know if the one in the pics in in Yanjiao though? Doubt it, looks like somewhere in US or Europe. Why do they do this? They provide good service for the cost, that should be enough?
Has anyone seen a place like this in Yanjiao?
Your directions are well done, although it seems to be a good 10 minute taxi ride from the bus stop. I certainly would not try it on foot.
FernandoAlonso
09-04-11, 16:32
Yes we want share information here but if you read more than one post you may have noticed that Beijing currently is difficult that is why posts are not so open as used to be. Sharing the number of a girl who works in a semi levity MP endanger her, her MP, you and others who go thete. So you may have destroyed this option. This places normally provide HE but nothing more. In crackdown times they turn veggie. And of course sometimes Ufo it clicks maybe more is on the menu. But talking on an open forum can cost her the job or worse that is why there is a PM system for this kind of info. Please be careful out there!
FA
And no Billy I am not jealous and want to keep her for myself. And no in Wanjing there are nice Korean WG but many Korean families and supermarkets.
Hi bros,
Was just wondering if anyone of ya' know where to bang Korean girls in Beijing. I know there are a lot of Koreans in WJ and I've tried the famous 400s there but couldn't find any koreans there. Any of you have had any luck or know the whereabouts? Would be grateful if anyone could point to the right direction.
By the way, if you're looking for FS, ask for no. 16 in 419 in WJ. Girl is average, I'd say but pretty small tits. She was a pretty wild one though, almost tried to bite my chin! Would cost you 300 (pay to the girl) + 160 at the front counter. Other girls there only do HJ / HE, I think.
Dragonflyxxx
09-05-11, 06:34
I've used Angel's service on several occasions before and my favorite also has to be the Wonderland girl as reported before by others on the forum. I've enjoyed her company a few times since and always satisfying encounters. Mid 20's, not too tall about 1. 6 m, tight body with about B size boobs, and nice skin.
Usually she starts off with a massage to set the mood, followed by BBBJ, before getting down to business. This girl can get pretty wild. Really seem to enjoys DATY, fucking, and usually has multiple orgasms. I especially like doing her doggie and enjoying the view at the same time. Getting hard just thinking about it now.
By the way last time she told me she started a blog called unforgettablebeijing. Blog. Com and put in a few pictures.How much did you pay this girl at "unforgettablebeijing"?
Take it easy man. Being familiar with the layout of Yanjiao I was just trying to clarify how to get there. In the process I found the pics on a blog matched with the right name (Si lu huayu is not a common name) and location on Hanwang lu near Haiyou dajie. Not having been there I would not know if that's what it looks like. It didn't look that great to me; I figured either it was the architect's rendering or photos taken right after it was finished. Apart from the swimming pool which I thought was a stretch, the decor style and scale is not inconsistent with what I've seen in such places, only without the wear and tear.My friend, didn't think I was being agro, just answering your question. So far I have only been to that one place out there, so maybe there is another that looks like the pics on the site? I don't know. Certainly would be nice? I just know that the place I go to bears no resemblance to the pics. I meant what I said about your directions being good, I have only been there with a Chinese mate, that made the public transport viable, but on my own with my very limited Chinese, it would be a mission I feel. The place itself does not have street frontage, you have to go through a type of archway to the back of what seems to be a KTV,
Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression, doesn't pay to be too sensitive on here.
I have been absent from the Beijing scene for a while, and I follow the forum's reports on Maggies and other places with interest. Now I wonder if any brother has information on the new arrivals from the country side that formerly used to show up around Hard Rock Café. Are they still there? I will finally be back in September, and I really want to find the new talent from the country side. Can anyone please give me a clue to where they may be found nowadays? And yes, I do speak Chinese.
How much did you pay this girl at "unforgettablebeijing"?Haven't checked in recently since someone thought my first post was laughable. At the risk of being laughed again, typically it was 700 for 1 hr and 1000 for 2 hr taxi inclusive.
As I come to China now for many years I only learned through you guys in the last several months about
The do's and don't's in the scene.
And where to go for meeting or contacting WG's, especially in Beijing. I also have gotten a direct connection to.
A most attractive lady, who is just occasionally looking for someone to meet but otherwise has got a regular
Full time job. (I had reported about this here a while ago.)
Since direct contacts need to be found via PM, write to me if you are interested in either a tantric massage with full service,
Very GFE like, but only basic English or a very professional with most everything on the menu and also phantastic GFE attitude, English no problem at all.
Both are in Beijing.
Some of the more frequent contributors are always suspecting indirect advertising: I can assure you I am absolutely independent.
And just want to return something for what I had been only able to get through this forum.
GregoryB
I am a regular contributor to ISG but in the Germany section.
First visit to Beijing this week. From Sunday to Wednesday 14th September. So not have much time.
Sorry for the 'newbie' type post however I have gone through 50 pages of posts and still not found and address or location for Maggies or Chocolate which are mentioned many times in the thread. The addresses are not given either in the earlier pages.
Could someone post the addresses here to help newbies or relative newbies who may scroll through many pages in vain otherwise.
Also I am staying at the Great Wall Sheraton in the Chaoyang district and was wondering whether anyone could recommend any sauna / massage places nearby or even elsewhere in Beijing which offer BBBJ to completion. I am not really interested in HJ's or FS with condom.
Hope someone can help out.
I am a regular contributor to ISG but in the Germany section.
First visit to Beijing this week. From Sunday to Wednesday 14th September. So not have much time.
Sorry for the 'newbie' type post however I have gone through 50 pages of posts and still not found and address or location for Maggies or Chocolate which are mentioned many times in the thread. The addresses are not given either in the earlier pages.
Could someone post the addresses here to help newbies or relative newbies who may scroll through many pages in vain otherwise.
Also I am staying at the Great Wall Sheraton in the Chaoyang district and was wondering whether anyone could recommend any sauna / massage places nearby or even elsewhere in Beijing which offer BBBJ to completion. I am not really interested in HJ's or FS with condom.
Hope someone can help out.Type the names in Google maps and you will find an address. Print it out or download it on your mobile the you can show the taxi driver.
Good luck.
John
I am a regular contributor to ISG but in the Germany section.
First visit to Beijing this week. From Sunday to Wednesday 14th September. So not have much time.
Sorry for the 'newbie' type post however I have gone through 50 pages of posts and still not found and address or location for Maggies or Chocolate which are mentioned many times in the thread. The addresses are not given either in the earlier pages.
Could someone post the addresses here to help newbies or relative newbies who may scroll through many pages in vain otherwise.
Also I am staying at the Great Wall Sheraton in the Chaoyang district and was wondering whether anyone could recommend any sauna / massage places nearby or even elsewhere in Beijing which offer BBBJ to completion. I am not really interested in HJ's or FS with condom.
Hope someone can help out.I assume you are not speaking Mandarin.
In google you can find them all.
Maggie's adress is:
South Gate of Ritan Park.
Tell the janitor at your hotel to give directions to the cab driver.
PM me if you like.
Gregory
Member #4144
09-11-11, 13:34
I am a regular contributor to ISG but in the Germany section.
First visit to Beijing this week. From Sunday to Wednesday 14th September. So not have much time.
Sorry for the 'newbie' type post however I have gone through 50 pages of posts and still not found and address or location for Maggies or Chocolate which are mentioned many times in the thread. The addresses are not given either in the earlier pages.
Could someone post the addresses here to help newbies or relative newbies who may scroll through many pages in vain otherwise.
Also I am staying at the Great Wall Sheraton in the Chaoyang district and was wondering whether anyone could recommend any sauna / massage places nearby or even elsewhere in Beijing which offer BBBJ to completion. I am not really interested in HJ's or FS with condom.
Hope someone can help out.I see why the 300 WGs can go to Maggies and asking for 2000, as there is no other obvious place to go in BJ! For a business traveller, that is it.
The street is Guang Hua Road, the place is kind of in the middle of nowhere, as the south gate of a park. Key is to tell taxi driver Ri (4) Tan (2) park, but you can always get someone in the hotel to help you write that in Chinese.
Fillmore
Type the names in Google maps and you will find an address. Print it out or download it on your mobile the you can show the taxi driver.
Good luck.
JohnMaggies even has the map on their website: http://www.maggiesbar.com/map.html
If this site redacts that link, google Maggies Bar Beijing and it's the first or second hit.
The map even has Chinese on it.
I was in Maggies Thursday night and there were 2 sisters from Viet Nam. They start at 2500 RMB and quickly go to 1500 but will not go any lower. They talked to numerous guys but still were there when I left with a nice Mongolian girl. I was wondering if anybody has tried these girls? They have bodies to die for but I do not like their attitude. Would be interested to know how they were in bed if anybody has experienced. I was approached by numerous girls who would go home for all night for 1000 RMB. The only Mongolian that wouldn't was the curly red haired Mongolian who stuck to 1500 but it was early about 1:00AM so not sure if she would bargain later. She is one of the better looking and I would like to pursue some day
Bad Boy Billy
09-11-11, 23:17
Some of you gutys are so lazy. I have [posted these locations several times. Seek and ye shall find.
Bad Boy Billy
09-11-11, 23:22
I was approached by numerous girls who would go home for all night for 1000 RMB.Had the similar experience last visit mate. But the response from the girls I got was 'pay me whatever you like. No business. I will stay as long as you want'. Now one was a repeat. The other I had never seen before. But her performance was SO GOOD she went straight onto 'must do again' list.
The only Mongolian that wouldn't was the curly red haired Mongolian who stuck to 1500 but it was early about 1:00AM so not sure if she would bargain later. She is one of the better looking and I would like to pursue some dayDo you mean spikey blonde haired Oggi? Tallish and very outgoing?
I see why the 300 WGs can go to Maggies and asking for 2000, as there is no other obvious place to go in BJ! For a business traveller, that is it.
The street is Guang Hua Road, the place is kind of in the middle of nowhere, as the south gate of a park. Key is to tell taxi driver Ri (4) Tan (2) park, but you can always get someone in the hotel to help you write that in Chinese.
FillmoreI've stayed at the Great Wall Sheraton. Not sure if they're girl friendly as they post security at every door, each end of driveway, and every lift as early as 6. 30pm. Usually, there are a few girls hanging out in the shadow of parked buses in front and will call out to you if you pass by. Step out of the hotel and walk towards Hard Rock Cafe and you'll be approached by a zillion pimps but I reckon these are all bait-and-switch artists, or worse.
The only massage I've found, and it's a good fifteen minutes walk away, is if walk past the HRC, onwards past the Hilton and take a slight left when you reach Beijing Silver tower you will see a sign for a large massage place right next to Silver Tower, opposite a 7-11. Don't expect any English. There's another massage place just after the Hilton. Huge place on the 2nd floor with massive signboard outside. Good massage there, but very, very legit.
I'm arriving 13th night will be staying in the vicinity but I guess it'll be too late to go for a drink together.
I was in Maggies Thursday night and there were 2 sisters from Viet Nam. They start at 2500 RMB and quickly go to 1500 but will not go any lower. They talked to numerous guys but still were there when I left with a nice Mongolian girl. I was wondering if anybody has tried these girls? They have bodies to die for but I do not like their attitude. Would be interested to know how they were in bed if anybody has experienced. I was approached by numerous girls who would go home for all night for 1000 RMB. The only Mongolian that wouldn't was the curly red haired Mongolian who stuck to 1500 but it was early about 1:00AM so not sure if she would bargain later. She is one of the better looking and I would like to pursue some daySorry "Canada", may be I am stupid, but I have not any clue how to know a Mongolian.
Apart from a Chinese one?
May be you can give me some clues.
Regards.
GregoryB
I've stayed at the Great Wall Sheraton. Not sure if they're girl friendly as they post security at every door, each end of driveway, and every lift as early as 6. 30pm. Usually, there are a few girls hanging out in the shadow of parked buses in front and will call out to you if you pass by. Step out of the hotel and walk towards Hard Rock Cafe and you'll be approached by a zillion pimps but I reckon these are all bait-and-switch artists, orI stayed at Great Wall Hotel many times. It is not girl friendly. U have to go through lot a hassel to get the girl up to your room. The place used be a hopping place when Passion was in business, but the glory days are long gone.
I was in Maggies Thursday night and there were 2 sisters from Viet Nam. They start at 2500 RMB and quickly go to 1500 but will not go any lower. They talked to numerous guys but still were there when I left with a nice Mongolian girl. I was wondering if anybody has tried these girls? They have bodies to die for but I do not like their attitude. Would be interested to know how they were in bed if anybody has experienced. I was approached by numerous girls who would go home for all night for 1000 RMB. The only Mongolian that wouldn't was the curly red haired Mongolian who stuck to 1500 but it was early about 1:00AM so not sure if she would bargain later. She is one of the better looking and I would like to pursue some dayI have spoke ot the girl with the curly red hair a few times (not Oggi). She is very firm on price. I have seen her there late at night, and she will choose to go home alone rather than go for a lower price. I do not know anyone who has gone with her, so I would be interested to hear a review of her performance. To be honest. 1500 for all night with a good performer is worth it in my book, but I am often accused of ruining the market.
Sammy
Sorry "Canada", may be I am stupid, but I have not any clue how to know a Mongolian.
Apart from a Chinese one?
May be you can give me some clues.
Regards.
GregoryBWhat do you call a Chinese girl who has big tits, and a nice ass? MONGOLIAN!
It is hard to describe the difference, but once you have been around for a while you can tell. Mongolians have sharper features, for example, more pronounced cheek bones. If you are at Maggie's and trying to tell the difference it is easy: all of the girls who work as hostesses at Maggie's are Chinese, and they wear name tags. Most of the girls at Maggie's not wearing name tags are Mongolian. If you are in doubt, just ask them. They only bite if you like that sort of thing :)
Good Luck in your Hunt!
Sammy
What do you call a Chinese girl who has big tits, and a nice ass? MONGOLIAN!
It is hard to describe the difference, but once you have been around for a while you can tell. Mongolians have sharper features, for example, more pronounced cheek bones. If you are at Maggie's and trying to tell the difference it is easy: all of the girls who work as hostesses at Maggie's are Chinese, and they wear name tags. Most of the girls at Maggie's not wearing name tags are Mongolian. If you are in doubt, just ask them. They only bite if you like that sort of thing.
Good Luck in your Hunt!
SammyThanks, I will learn.
Although I have been to China now over 150 times in the last years. Never stayed longer than a week or so. And most often.
In the Shanghai area. Its only the last two years I stay more often in Beijing.
Occasionally a week in Jinan, difficult to hunt there as of yet I was not lucky. If you don't speak Mandarin its tough.
I have only been once to Maggie's and promptly fell for a non tagged lady who at least after her first drink told me that she.
Is working at Maggies. Later she had her badge on. But we had nevertheless a very nice evening together, and I walked back
To my hotel happy, but single. Somtimes you get choosy.
Next time I will try again its around middle of October.
GregoryB.
Again thanks
Klaus Scheppe
09-14-11, 09:34
Seems many of you guys keep asking about addresses of bars, spas, etc.
For those of you lucky enough to have an iPhone download Taxi-Book Beijing and all the addresses are in there.
Just show it to the taxi drivers and miracles will happen.
Good luck punting!
Gualtier Malde
09-14-11, 13:25
Ok, so this post will frustrate those who are not regulars on the Beijing forum, and will scare those who are. For the regulars, relax, I'll not give away too much. For the newbies, sorry, but I don't want to see one of the last standing saunas get shut down. But I did want to share my first impressions, and perhaps make some comparisons.
I've been living in Beijing for a while now, but due to personal circumstances have not had many opportunities to prowl the "commercial" services here (or even the bars, drat!). My adventures have mostly been restricted to freebies, willing to get together on my restricted schedule. I have had the opportunity to explore some low-end massage venues, and they have been interesting in their own way.
Today I had a chance to visit what is perhaps one of the few remaining "classic" saunas in Beijing. I won't identify it by name, or detail its location, nor will I share the location via PM, unless I know you (and if I know you, you probably already know where this one is.). I will say, for the regulars, I'm referring to the one you get to by crossing a bridge and walking down a narrow street, after departing a nearby subway station. Oh, and there is a restaurant nearby.
The sauna is easily identifiable if you know it. The entrance is reasonably grand, in Chinese fashion. Nice marble, but someone forgot to turn on the lights.
The price is way too high, but as one of the only ones remaining, at least publicly remaining, I guess they can charge whatever they want.
Fee is paid up front, and I was escorted to the locker room. An attentive attendant helped me store my clothes in a locker, then showed me to the shower room. Compared to my previous experiences, several years ago in Shanghai, this shower room was pretty tired and dreary. But it was similar to a previous Beijing experience a few years ago, so perhaps this is the Beijing normal. It wasn't dirty, just. Tired.
After a shower, I was taken directly to a comfortable massage room, being led through the typical sauna maze of (empty) rooms along long hallways. This place isn't as large as the old Shanghai Hotel sauna, but it wasn't tiny either. The room was nice. Two massage chairs and a massage table, and a functioning TV.
Soon my masseuse arrived. I was not offered a selection. But she was perfectly acceptable: tall, nice shape, pretty face. She was wearing what appears to be a standard nurse-like massage uniform. But she was anything but a normal masseuse (if there is such a thing in China!)
She was friendly, and quickly warmed up the room with a sensual teasing. It didn't take long for us to get busy. She performed a lovely sensual massage, mostly tongue. It was wonderful, and as nice as anything I ever had in Shanghai, except for perhaps the red rope treatment there.
We eventually covered all the bases I like to cover, and I was completely satisfied. She then left to bring water. We snuggled a bit, and then it was time to go. Another shower, and off I went.
I would say for the most part, the experience was fun and pleasant, but really is overpriced, especially considering what you can get for much much less if you are willing to accept more "local" surroundings. Plus, perhaps I'm spoiled by my freebies, which are, after all, free. (sort of) The facility is a bit tired (though the rooms were perfectly fine). The girl was as good as any I've had in a sauna. And after all, that's the whole point, right?
GM
Bad Boy Billy
09-15-11, 00:50
Seems many of you guys keep asking about addresses of bars, spas.For those of you lucky enough to have an iPhone download Taxi-Book Beijing and all the addresses are in there.Just show it to the taxi drivers and miracles will happen.Great tip Klaus. I downloaded the FREE app. Has main locations like Absenta (new Hollyywood) , Choclate, Maggies etc. But maybe a bit limited.
Klaus did you download China Taxi Book which is FREE or Beijing Taxi Book which costs $8. 49?
Thanks again Klaus. This was a great tip.
Bad Boy Billy
09-15-11, 06:57
Again. Thanks Klaus this is REALLY a great tool.
Attached are screen shots from iPhone giving addess that you can show to taxi driver = now no excuse for not getting out and finding your bed warmer for the night.
Klaus Scheppe
09-15-11, 09:49
I have the paid version which has more places than the free version. Note that they made this app for many more cities such as Shanghai, Chengdu, Chongqing, Suzhou and many more.
Again. Thanks Klaus this is REALLY a great tool.
Attached are screen shots from iPhone giving addess that you can show to taxi driver = now no excuse for not getting out and finding your bed warmer for the night.
One Eyed Man
09-15-11, 11:23
I dig iPhone apps, but there's an even easier way. There's a service called Guanxi where you send SMS a restaurant or other place name, and they SMS you back the address and phone number. Reply with "C" to get it back again in Chinese, to show to your taxi driver. I was reluctant to recommend because I don't want to make it too easy for people that don't speak the language. I think there's another one for Shanghai, etc.
It's + eighty-six (for China) ten six six nine five eight eight twenty-nine twenty-nine.
Seems many of you guys keep asking about addresses of bars, spas, etc.
For those of you lucky enough to have an iPhone download Taxi-Book Beijing and all the addresses are in there.
Just show it to the taxi drivers and miracles will happen.
Good luck punting!
Ok, so this post will frustrate those who are not regulars on the Beijing forum, and will scare those who are. For the regulars, relax, I'll not give away too much. For the newbies, sorry, but I don't want to see one of the last standing saunas get shut down. But I did want to share my first impressions, and perhaps make some comparisons.With all due respect, without providing a name, location, general area, district, or even how much you paid, what is the point of your report? All I can get out of it is,"Hey, I went to a sauna!", which is all fine and good, but I don't see how that fits in with the point of this board. To share information. I also don't buy the argument that posting information here is going to get a place shut down. LE are well aware of the comings and goings in Beijing. I don't think any board participants should be shy to share information here, within reason, of course.
Gualtier Malde
09-15-11, 16:02
With all due respect, without providing a name, location, general area, district, or even how much you paid, what is the point of your report? All I can get out of it is,"Hey, I went to a sauna!", which is all fine and good, but I don't see how that fits in with the point of this board. To share information. I also don't buy the argument that posting information here is going to get a place shut down. LE are well aware of the comings and goings in Beijing. I don't think any board participants should be shy to share information here, within reason, of course.I think you'll see from my posting history that I have shared more than a little bit on the China board, just not in Beijing, where my actions have been more restricted. I don't think I have to answer to anyone regarding my contributions to ISG (including, for example, my Monger's Guide to Shanghai waaay back in '06) , or my understanding of the purpose of this site.
The fee at this sauna is currently 1150RMB. And yes, hey, I went to a sauna! But I'm not revealing more out of respect for the long time Beijing folks, (and my own self interest) because it is the last one left, as far as I can tell. But I will certainly, contrary to my original post, share via PM the location to anyone that I consider is in "good standing" meaning they have made solid review contributions to the board. Others may choose to be more lenient, I just want to respect what is left here. I admit to being shy. Too many places have been shut down, and I must assume the authorities are reading this board.
My point was, as a frequent customer of Shanghai saunas "back in the day" (I hate that expression. What day?) , to give my impression of the Beijing equivalent. It was not to tell anyone where to find it, sorry. Besides, Gao Xing, you know the place. You reviewed it yourself. I gave enough hints that you of all members should know of which one I speak. But I'll be happy to refresh your memory in a PM.
Peace,
GM
I think you'll see from my posting history that I have shared more than a little bit on the China board, just not in Beijing, where my actions have been more restricted.GM, I certainly could have been more tactful (as usual!) , and didn't mean any disrespect to you as I do know that you are a solid contributor to the board. I absolutely don't question your knowledge or value of previous contributions. I also do know of the place you are speaking of. My only point was that I don't want to scare off those (particularly newbies) from sharing information for fear of getting the place of business in trouble with LE. I have been criticized at times in the past by others for sharing too much, although I think my reports have been reasonable. For this, sometimes I think the Beijing board is sometimes too restrictive with being unwilling to share information, which keeps others from adding to the wealth of information. That is what I was reacting to. You had your reasons for keeping some info to yourself, which I respect as you certainly have the authority to decide which information you wish to share. As such, everyone certainly has this privilege, but those who wish to share more info, please do not be afraid to do so! And, it is generous of you to share additional info via PM to members in good standing.
Otherwise, I'm glad you had a great time at the sauna, thanks for all your prior and future contributions, and keep enjoying!
Gao Xing
Thomas Jefferson
09-17-11, 17:01
Usually I order lily outcall girls, but this time with wife and kids in hotel. No outcall possible,
So I went to this "sauna" today, was not difficult to find, but how the hell did you find this place, I would never go there, if did not read it in here, hahaha.
Shower is 28 rmb, extra is either 500 or 900, I choose 500 rmb massage, which is blowjob and fuck.
Got a 25 year old named "liu yuan" from dongbei, north east China, with see-cups, nice and pretty.
Service was ok, no rush, blow, fuck in different possitions, no complains, just a bit rushed.
Paid 528 at exit counter and out on the street after total 45 min.
Thomas Jefferson.
If you entered the hutong from Andingmennei Dajie you must have walked right past the place. It's on the left as you walk towards the Hebei Hotel. If you reach the Hebei Hotel you've gone way too far. The name in Chinese is yu4 quan2 ge2 xi3 yu3 zhong1 xin1 (see below). You step down into the entrance, which is not particularly prepossessing. Look out for a small cage sitting on the floor right at the entrance with two rabbits inside (for good luck in the Year of the Rabbit?) , unless someone's eaten them that is!
&29577; &27849; &38401; &27927; &28020; &20013; &24515;
Horneblower
09-19-11, 08:20
From China Daily today. It appears that things aren't going to get better any time soon.
A total of 112 suspects, including 27 foreign women, were identified by Beijing police as allegedly being involved in the sex trade in early September, authorities said on Saturday.
The suspects. 42 men and 70 women, were mainly from four criminal groups, the authorities said.
The suspects allegedly distributed prostitutes' information on ads formatted like name cards in public venues such as hotels, contacted clients with mobile phones and arranged sex transactions in hotel rooms, according to a statement from the Beijing Municipal Public Security Bureau.
The case involves the largest number of foreign prostitutes ever in the city, said the statement. The bureau did not list the suspects' nationalities.
Among the 112 suspects. 62 suspects were put under criminal detention and 19 suspects were under public security detention, said the statement. The police did not say whether the other 31 suspects were in custody.
The ads often feature sexually explicit images, with a few words listing the sexual services being offered and a contact number. Most such cards use seductive phrases such as "college girls" and "uniform seduction" to attract clients.
Many of the ads were left on hotel room doors or the windshields of private cars, or were given directly to hotel guests.
After receiving phone calls from customers, the criminal groups dispatched the prostitutes to places such as hotel rooms.
The crackdown, launched by the police on the night of Sept 6, had led to the seizure of more than 10 vehicles. 100 mobile phones and 60, 000 ads cards as of Sept 7.
Much of the illegal sex trade has shifted from entertainment venues such as nightclubs to the Internet, the statement said.
Beijing police initiated a massive campaign against businesses that act as fronts for prostitution and drugs on April 11, 2010, with the closure of the nightclub Heaven Earth also known as Passion Nightclub where prostitutes were allegedly readily available.
Similar crackdowns against ads for the sex trade have been conducted in other cities. On the night of Aug 22, police in Hangzhou, the capital of East China's Zhejiang province, detained 42 suspects for allegedly engaging in the sex trade.
Of the total. 25 were from a criminal group that advertised sex trade information through cards, according to the Zhejiang Legal News.
On Sept 7, the Beijing No 2 Intermediate People's Court reviewed a case in which a man surnamed Li was caught by security guards as he distributed sex trade cards in a Beijing hotel in November 2010. Li received a sentence of five days' administrative detention from the court, said the China News Service.
Wang Dawei, a professor at the Chinese People's Public Security University, said that the campaign against the sex trade faces new challenges since many prostitutes advertise through the Internet or mobile phones, which are more difficult for the police to trace.
"The sex trade became much more fluid after the closure of many entertainment venues such as the Passion Nightclub," Wang said.
"It will take a long time for the police to fight against the sex trade, and a long-term mechanism should be established to halt the sex trade."
Given the focus of the forums, it's a little hard to tell, but the news update prompts me to ask: What is the level of tolerance for prostitution in China? As a customer, rather than a provider, what are the odds of running into trouble? I'm going in a few months, and am definitely a fan of Asian girls, but in the past I've had a better picture of the risk, and a knowledge of the language to help talk myself out of trouble. China seems like a horrible place to get involved in the legal system.
Midwestern
09-19-11, 18:05
I'm here for a month but don't know the ins and outs. I'm used to local friends showing me the ropes of different cities but this time I'm alone and in the dark. Any general advice would be appreciated. I texted a girl on craigslist but I got scared off by all the info she wanted. Please educate me.
Had a romp with a sister from the northern country that I've known for a while. Nice to see her, been a while, she's improved with age and yet is still remarkably tight.
This is something that seems to be missing from this board now: the long-term game. For the quick fuck, it's always a slog. But for those of us who spent time getting to know girls, now we get benefits. I can call her anytime, she can come to my place or I can go to hers, and we never talk about money. It's like having a hot girlfriend but without all the whining. Consider it.
Had a romp with a sister from the northern country that I've known for a while. Nice to see her, been a while, she's improved with age and yet is still remarkably tight.
This is something that seems to be missing from this board now: the long-term game. For the quick fuck, it's always a slog. But for those of us who spent time getting to know girls, now we get benefits. I can call her anytime, she can come to my place or I can go to hers, and we never talk about money. It's like having a hot girlfriend but without all the whining. Consider it.Well, I'd consider the price you could be compelled to pay in the future, when you get tired of her. Remember where you live and who you f. Ck with.
Cheers
Bad Boy Billy
09-19-11, 23:27
Had a romp with a sister from the northern country that I've known for a while. Nice to see her, been a while, she's improved with age and yet is still remarkably tight.Nice to see you again too my friend. Thought you had passed on. Please refer to following:
1. Would be nice to see you too again sometime.
2. Have you improved with age?
3. And are you still remarkebly tight. Ie are you still a tad shy in buying your mates a drink or 2?
4. Please don't be afraid to drop me a pm next time I am in town and hopefully we can catch up. Not much fun spending time with the run of the mill simpletons such as Sammy, FA, Jesse etc. You know what I mean.
I am from USA, visiting BJ for 3 days on Oct 10. 13. I have been in Beijing before but this will be my first mongering adventure. I plan to visit Yanjiao. My question is: Why doesn't anyone consider staying in a hotel overnight in Yanjiao? Are there no hotels? Maybe I am missing something.
I would like to meet some of you vets for drinks and advice. Please PM me. Thanks.
Gualtier Malde
09-20-11, 07:36
I am from USA, visiting BJ for 3 days on Oct 10. 13. I have been in Beijing before but this will be my first mongering adventure. I plan to visit Yanjiao. My question is: Why doesn't anyone consider staying in a hotel overnight in Yanjiao? Are there no hotels? Maybe I am missing something.
I would like to meet some of you vets for drinks and advice. Please PM me. Thanks.I think most of the folks who have ventured over to Yanjiao have a place to stay in Beijing already. It isn't that far away.
GM
Thanks GM.
Can I ask another question? What is the closest subway station to Maggies? Looking at Google Maps, they all seem far away, not walking distance.
Member #4144
09-20-11, 08:47
Thanks GM.
Can I ask another question? What is the closest subway station to Maggies? Looking at Google Maps, they all seem far away, not walking distance.This is a new one, going to a place with RMB 80 beer by subway? Besides, the hours that you need to go there no subway would be running.
Is there a reason you don't want to take a taxi? Just need to prepare a small piece of paper to show the taxi driver.
Fillmore
Gualtier Malde
09-20-11, 11:44
Thanks GM.
Can I ask another question? What is the closest subway station to Maggies? Looking at Google Maps, they all seem far away, not walking distance.Fillmore is right, a taxi is surely the best option, especially since Maggie's is a late night place. But to answer your question directly, I think the Yonganli station on Line 1 is probably the closest. I guess if you really wanted, you could subway there, walk, then taxi back. But again, Fillmore is right. A taxi will cost less than one beer there. And anyway, I doubt a WG would subway back with you, even if the subways were open during the time they are at Maggie's!
GM
Midwestern
09-20-11, 14:45
Texted a massage girl on craigslist for FS and she asked for my hotel tel, room, and my full name. Is this common? I texted back "no thanks." Don't want to give out my name because if she googled me then she'd have all kinds of info on me. BTW, you guys have good luck with CL girls?
Jude Bright
09-20-11, 14:48
I am from USA, visiting BJ for 3 days on Oct 10. 13. I have been in Beijing before but this will be my first mongering adventure. I plan to visit Yanjiao. My question is: Why doesn't anyone consider staying in a hotel overnight in Yanjiao? Are there no hotels? Maybe I am missing something.
I would like to meet some of you vets for drinks and advice. Please PM me. Thanks.There are plenty hotels there and cheaper too.
JB
Texted a massage girl on craigslist for FS and she asked for my hotel tel, room, and my full name. Is this common? I texted back "no thanks." Don't want to give out my name because if she googled me then she'd have all kinds of info on me. BTW, you guys have good luck with CL girls?Arrange to meet nearby (at a cafe, restaurant, bar).
That way you can both check each other.
If both are happy, and price and service levels established, then you can easily adjourn to your place, and do the deed.
Just my experience.
P13
As I know not everyone here is a hardcore mg and some are happy with just HE and the like, I thought I'd report on something that happened to me last night, and you sometimes read about it and you're never quite sure whether it's a bit made up or genuine, as it is something we tend to fantasise on. Me at least.
So came back from a nice evening out quite late last night and decided to check maizidian and maybe indulge in a good night massage. I hate it when they have to wake up the girl for you so I picked a room where there was a bit of life and was lucky to have the lady at the desk suggest she could do the massage herself if I wish. Late 20's, cute, sexy silk nuisette instead of the ugly hospital-like uniform you sometimes get, I said yes right away.
Follows a very good mix of oil massage and Chinese-massage work on pressure points, gradually focussing on and around the most sensitive areas which got more than 50% of the first hour. Two other nice points: the sexy blue paper short I was wearing was removed quite early, and my request to switch down the light when turning over was executed right away.
When the mama san yelled that the hour was over (after at least 15 minutes of bonus time) she asked me whether I wanted a second hour. I much prefer that to a 20 minutes haggling over the price of the HE. 400, then 300, then 200, then 100 and I don't even feel like it anymore. The risk is of course that you pay for the second hour and it's all teasing and no conclusion and you end up frustrated or yet another bill or two lighter. But the massage was so good I really didn't care.
The second hour started where the first had stopped, with a very likeable HJ, very soft and slow. Had my eyes closed but I some point new sensations prompted me to open them and I was quite surprised to see she was using her mouth as well as her hands. Maybe I've not been lucky so far but it was a first for me in a non-sauna massage joint. It went on, I let my hands wander on her body. She led me to climax, in a much better than average way (how can masseuses be so bad at HJ I'm often left wondering). Then cleaned me and then kept caressing, whispering things, blowing an occasional kiss on my dick. After a few minutes she unexpectingly lifted her shirt and started massaging me with her tits, another first for me in this context. This led to a totally GFE all around kissing session, where she wouldn't let my mouth away from her tits. Came a second time and sun was up already and I had to go
Here it is. Sorry I took so much space with hardly any sex and no specific address but it made me feel good, and I wanted to share the story, innocent as it is. Definitely the best massage I had in China. Wish all of you who haven't yet to get this one dayHi, do you mind sharing which place in maizidian you went to?
Sorry MG & Fillmore. I was not clear. I always try to locate subway stations in whatever cities I am in: Shanghai, Tokyo, HK, Singapore, Munich, etc. It is not only the cheapest way to travel cross town but also the fastest, and in BJ I prefer the air quality underground. So if I am somewhere else in the city and want to go directly to Maggies, I will take subway to closest station, then take a cab. Of course I will take a cab back to hotel with WG. Thanks.
Gualtier Malde
09-21-11, 13:10
Sorry MG & Fillmore. I was not clear. I always try to locate subway stations in whatever cities I am in: Shanghai, Tokyo, HK, Singapore, Munich, etc. It is not only the cheapest way to travel cross town but also the fastest, and in BJ I prefer the air quality underground. So if I am somewhere else in the city and want to go directly to Maggies, I will take subway to closest station, then take a cab. Of course I will take a cab back to hotel with WG. Thanks.I think the pollution sinks to the ground. I've been on the subway on days when you couldn't clearly see to the other end of the subway platform because of the underground air quality.
But, I have to admit to enjoying the ride with anonymous lovelies on the subway. And I even picked up a cutie one evening (well, actually perhaps she picked me up!) She didn't become one of my freebies, but we did have some enjoyable G-rated dates and conversations.
GM (like the car company, not like the little sports car.)
Gualtier Malde
09-21-11, 13:18
Sorry MG & Fillmore. I was not clear. I always try to locate subway stations in whatever cities I am in: Shanghai, Tokyo, HK, Singapore, Munich, etc. It is not only the cheapest way to travel cross town but also the fastest, and in BJ I prefer the air quality underground. So if I am somewhere else in the city and want to go directly to Maggies, I will take subway to closest station, then take a cab. Of course I will take a cab back to hotel with WG. Thanks.Oh, one more thing. If you are into subway travel and have an iPhone or iPad, you should check out the "Explore Beijing" app, from ExploreMetro. It makes subway travel easy. It has a complete, interactive subway map. It uses your current location to find the nearest subway stop, and has a planning mode that shows you the best route and accurate time between two stations, taking transfer time into account. It will also calculate the cost, which for Beijing is always 2RMB. But they have versions for other cities (eg, Tokyo and Shanghai) where the rates vary by distance.
GM
Gualtier Malde
09-21-11, 13:20
Arrange to meet nearby (at a cafe, restaurant, bar).
That way you can both check each other.
If both are happy, and price and service levels established, then you can easily adjourn to your place, and do the deed.
Just my experience.
P13Word.
You can't be too careful with Craigslist.
GM
One Eyed Man
09-21-11, 15:04
From China Daily today. It appears that things aren't going to get better any time soon.
A total of 112 suspects, including 27 foreign women, were identified by Beijing police as allegedly being involved in the sex trade in early September, authorities said on Saturday.
The suspects. 42 men and 70 women, were mainly from four criminal groups, the authorities said.
The suspects allegedly distributed prostitutes' information on ads formatted like name cards in public venues such as hotels, contacted clients with mobile phones and arranged sex transactions in hotel rooms, according to a statement from the Beijing Municipal Public Security Bureau.I hope they get these guys: one evening I was leaving a five-star Chinese hotel by taxi, when two guys, standing side-by side, each expertly threw a stack of cards (with girls pictures and phone numbers) through the taxi window and onto my lap.
The mamasans that used to stand on the corner in front of the hotel at Kerry Center are now all gone.
Loveasiangirls
09-22-11, 07:25
Sorry MG & Fillmore. I was not clear. I always try to locate subway stations in whatever cities I am in: Shanghai, Tokyo, HK, Singapore, Munich, etc. It is not only the cheapest way to travel cross town but also the fastest, and in BJ I prefer the air quality underground. So if I am somewhere else in the city and want to go directly to Maggies, I will take subway to closest station, then take a cab. Of course I will take a cab back to hotel with WG. Thanks.Check on google maps. About the same walking distance from either Yong'anli or Jianguomen, about 1km. The subway closes a bit early though.
Gupin 2008
09-22-11, 13:16
Sorry MG & Fillmore. I was not clear. I always try to locate subway stations in whatever cities I am in: Shanghai, Tokyo, HK, Singapore, Munich, etc. It is not only the cheapest way to travel cross town but also the fastest, and in BJ I prefer the air quality underground. So if I am somewhere else in the city and want to go directly to Maggies, I will take subway to closest station, then take a cab. Of course I will take a cab back to hotel with WG. Thanks.Here is subway map in Beijing. You can choose the closest station of subway.
GM, thanks for this tip. It will be very helpful to me.
Gualtier Malde
09-23-11, 01:04
Here is subway map in Beijing. You can choose the closest station of subway.For what it's worth, that is an old map. Doesn't include the new lines added this year.
GM
Member #4144
09-23-11, 12:44
I have read so much about out calls in BJ that I finally gave it a try. I was dancing at Maggies till 4AM and since I only played with those pretty tagged gilrs, I didn't bring someone into my hotel, so when I woke up with a hardon, I figured I do need a girl after all. I then gave Angel a call.
I called around 10am and the call went through quite easily. She asked for my last name and room number, so she can call me back to confirm that I am indeed in that hotel room, which made sense. All calls into a hotel room need guest's last name to be put through. I told her that I will be checking out by 12:30 so please send over someone asap. She said at this hour availability was limited which I fully understand, and said she did have someone fitting my requirement of a smaller girl <45kg. She asked me to stay in the room as there is no other means to communicate so I ordered room service for my breakfast and waited.
The girl showed up about one hour later, which was pretty quick considering the traffic situation in BJ. She was kind of typical out call quality, I would say, and acceptable at 600. Service was quite good too, she took time with BBBJ and she did turn really wet in the process, which was important, as you just cannot fake that, and I would never fuck a girl who did not want to be fucked.
I usually only do KTV girls, but considering the last mininute, before-heading-to-airport kind of situation, the convenience with Angle's service was unbeatable.
Next time I come to BJ, maybe I can call ahead so she can find a model quality for me, then we will see.
Fillmore
So I went to this "sauna" today, was not difficult to find, but how the hell did you find this place, I would never go there, if did not read it in here, hahaha.I have to be honest and claim no credit for finding this place. If you go back far enough on the thread, you'll find it was Laobaixing who mentioned the place first. I was just following his directions and excellent recommendation. Always nice to find a place in the downtown part of Beijing that doesn't charge an arm and a leg, as most do.
Member #4144
09-23-11, 18:21
Despite the negatives reports, I found the place was full of westerns Wed night. When I got there, it was almost 2am and you could not find any place to sit down.
I booked one very hot tagged girl, whom I waited to closing on my last trip to get her qq. When I got there, she was with a guy so she said wait 10 min, so I waited but saw a new girl, who just become available and she is just as slim and really hot as well. Well long story shot, I had a wonderful night holding probabbly the two best looking Maggies tagged girls. I danced with them all night. I took one out to dance and after a while, the other would come join us and I had to then send the original back to the booth to wait for her turn, it was fun.
I did look around for WGs and the same story as before, they were mostly older and heavier, so no thanks.
Fillmore
Midwestern
09-24-11, 02:40
word.
you can't be too careful with craigslist.
gmany info on this service would be appreciated. and thanks, gm. i'm new on this site and i have read a bunch of your posts to try to get up to speed.
El Frances
09-24-11, 21:46
Texted a massage girl on craigslist for FS and she asked for my hotel tel, room, and my full name. Is this common? I texted back "no thanks." Don't want to give out my name because if she googled me then she'd have all kinds of info on me. BTW, you guys have good luck with CL girls?Craiglist is mainly rip-off. It's better to use the providers reported here: lili, maria, etc.
No doubt this case took considerable undercover work to crack.
Mao don't.
[QUOTE=Horneblower; 1198550]From China Daily today. It appears that things aren't going to get better any time soon.
A total of 112 suspects, including 27 foreign women, were identified by Beijing police as allegedly being involved in the sex trade in early September, authorities said on Saturday.
Gualtier Malde
09-25-11, 14:23
I had the pleasure of hooking up with Mock A Bee from Shanghai on Friday here in Beijing. I had not seen him in several years, so we had a lot to catch up on. He arrived earlier in the week and we couldn't immediately meet, but one of my adventurous freebies could, so after a few texts between the two of them they were on their way to a nice evening. But that's for him to post.
Mock and I met for beers on Gu Luo Street Friday. I intended to wander by the little massage place there that offers discreet FS. To my surprise it is no longer there. In its place is a bar.
For those who frequented it, it is the one near the Guitar Bar.
It's too bad. While it was a typical local place (meaning sort of a dump) , the girl I had there was quite pretty and performed very well, with no rush. Sorry to see it go. Anyone know if by any slim chance it just moved?
GM
First BJ visit arriving Sep 27 for 4 days and was looking forward to a bit of action at the places I'd read about, like Maggies etc.
Is the crackdown that bad on National Day time?
Seems to be very hush hush and lots of PM's flying about to avoid getting anyone into trouble. Would appreciate any advice via PM.
Angel outcalls keep getting mentioned. I've looked through quite a few pages and it appears it's an agency but I don't see contact details, would love that too.
Thanks in advance.
Bommel1963
09-27-11, 16:47
Stayed in Beijing the last two days, my hotel was outside 4th ring west, so a bit way out in nowhere. Took the subway line 1# to Yonganli station, this is close to the Silk Market and also the Jianguo Hotel. At about 10pm there are some WG to find with basic english, just check out the place in front of Starbucks and the tree-shaded parking lot upto the entrance of the Jianguo Hotel. The scene was still lively with the occosional police car patrolling. Going rate about 600 at yr place.
Later went to Russian nightclub Chocolate (Chinese "qiaokeli") , close to Ritan area, but can't remember the streetname. Basement level big club with plenty of Russian ladies, only one Chinese girl, her rate dropped from 2000 to 1000 in an instand. Great music on a MON night, even filling at 2am. Modest beer prices at 30 rmb / bottle.
The russians refused to come to my hotel, too far. So I found outside 2 nice Chinese girls who took me to their home just round the corner for a nice session. Chinese language skills a must.
So I guess the National Day crackdown is coming, but not for the Russian population.
Enjoy the free days then!
First BJ visit arriving Sep 27 for 4 days and was looking forward to a bit of action at the places I'd read about, like Maggies etc.
Is the crackdown that bad on National Day time?
Seems to be very hush hush and lots of PM's flying about to avoid getting anyone into trouble. Would appreciate any advice via PM.
Angel outcalls keep getting mentioned. I've looked through quite a few pages and it appears it's an agency but I don't see contact details, would love that too.
Thanks in advance.Crackdown? What crackdown? Maggie's was packed last night with a pretty even ratio of ladies to gents. I arrived around 11:30, and left a couple hours later with a (rare for Maggie's, I think) Chinese girl. I just don't get the guys who think Maggie's only offers old and fat Mongolians. I guess those guys are looking for 19 whyear old waifs like they see walking around the streets of Sanlitun. I think I saw one chubby girl last night. The rest were mostly all acceptable in my book, and more than a few were outstanding. Good times.
Member #4144
09-28-11, 05:59
Crackdown? What crackdown? Maggie's was packed last night with a pretty even ratio of ladies to gents. I arrived around 11:30, and left a couple hours later with a (rare for Maggie's, I think) Chinese girl. I just don't get the guys who think Maggie's only offers old and fat Mongolians. I guess those guys are looking for 19 whyear old waifs like they see walking around the streets of Sanlitun. I think I saw one chubby girl last night. The rest were mostly all acceptable in my book, and more than a few were outstanding. Good times.I guess I have been going there too late then. I agree the Chinese WGs are usually in better shape, and I am sure you were not comparing with the tagged girls who are still mostly slim. In my book, a girl must weight less then 45kg, preferablly less then 43kg, or I call her not so slim. I have been going around 1:30 to 2am, so maybe that was why I don't see those Chinese WGs as they would all have left by then I guess.
Fillmore
I guess I have been going there too late then. I agree the Chinese WGs are usually in better shape, and I am sure you were not comparing with the tagged girls who are still mostly slim. In my book, a girl must weight less then 45kg, preferablly less then 43kg, or I call her not so slim. I have been going around 1:30 to 2am, so maybe that was why I don't see those Chinese WGs as they would all have left by then I guess.
FillmoreNot really sure how many Chinese girls where working last night, I only chatted with a few girls throughout the night and they were all Mongolian. For better or worse the Chinese girl I ended up with caught my eye early on but she was with another laowei so I water and bided my time. Patience paid off and his loss was my gain!
For me 43-45 kg is a bit too thin. At that size you're lucky to get any booty or boobs! My Chinese friend from last night was, I'd guess maybe a shade under 50 kg, but she was tall. 5' 6" or so. Perfect in my book!
Happy hunting.
G'day members,
I arrive in China in a few weeks. I am first time China, many times Bangkok and Manila.
Will start in Guangzhou for a week for the Canton fair then head to Beijing around the 22nd of October. I need to meet up with others on the 24th so will have a few nights in Beijing to myself.
I will read the reports to see what is happening and any advise on the girls would be great.
I will need to find a guest friendly hotel any recomendations would be great.
Cheers,
Perth Boy
Member #4144
09-28-11, 18:57
Not really sure how many Chinese girls where working last night, I only chatted with a few girls throughout the night and they were all Mongolian. For better or worse the Chinese girl I ended up with caught my eye early on but she was with another laowei so I water and bided my time. Patience paid off and his loss was my gain!
For me 43-45 kg is a bit too thin. At that size you're lucky to get any booty or boobs! My Chinese friend from last night was, I'd guess maybe a shade under 50 kg, but she was tall. 5' 6" or so. Perfect in my book!
Happy hunting.Good for you man. 5' 6" 49kg is the perfect movie star ratio, so you have found the right girl! I like them shorter, more like 5' 3" and thus 43kg, and plenty of B cups at that weight, at least in ktvs in the south. So you like Chinese girls over the Mongolians too then. Maybe you can PM me on how much you paid since that unlucky laowai might might have read some posts here and and insisted on no more then 1000 LT and thus leaving her on the table?
Fillmore
Tonight was my first visit to Maggies. I had trouble getting a cab from the Wangfujing area. 4 or 5 drivers did not know the place. The one who took me there understood "Maggies" pronounced in English. Someone back posted in the Forum that it is Mei Shi (beautiful jade) in Chinese. I must have mispronounced it. I know mei as in meili, so it must be "shi".
Well, after RTFF back over 50 pages, as I walked in, I felt like I've been there before. Got there about 11 PM and left around 12:30. The place was quite busy, ratio about even. Talked to a couple Gs but I was very tired from jetlag and so did not take out any. Maybe tomorrow night.
Saw a guy in a blue jacket who must not have read ISG or has a huge company expense account. He was with 2 girls with badges, ordered a bunch of drinks, then a bottle of champagne and a fruit tray.
Member #4144
09-30-11, 19:06
.Saw a guy in a blue jacket who must not have read ISG or has a huge company expense account. He was with 2 girls with badges, ordered a bunch of drinks, then a bottle of champagne and a fruit tray.
Well, he might have gotten the idea from me, hahaha.
If you had read my post, which was quite recent, you would have seen that I could have been that guy, as I go there only to play with the badged girls. I may change my mind if I can go earlier and see some attractive WGs, but so far, only the badged girls for me. Like him, I usually have two girls and yes a bottle of champagne usually, but I would skip the fruit tray. Just get the girls to be slightly drunk and dance with them, a lot of fun. Finding a WG to go back to your hotel room, you can do that anywhere in China easily, but gee, to find some sexy girls in tight outfits to dance the night away, only in Maggies. There are many other places you can find WGs to dance in a bar, but usually they want you to take them home soon, and not linger for hours in the bar, and the quality of those badged girls can usually only be found in ktvs. One of the two I had last time was a recent college grads and interesting to talk to as well.
Company expense account? yes, since Maggies takes VISA, yes, I put part of my bills to the company, and claimed it to my dinner expense. I cannot charge the whole thing as it would be too expensive a dinner even for Beijing, hahaha, but they are more then happy to split the charges in whichever way I want it structured.
As for Wangfujing, I had posted the difficulty in getting a cab, but others did not notice. For Maggies, just get a piece of paper prepared from your hotel, they know where it is, or can defintely help you write down in Chinese "South Gate to Ritan Park, on Guanghua Road"
Fillmore
CharlieLaGaule
10-03-11, 01:54
Tonight was my first visit to Maggies. I had trouble getting a cab from the Wangfujing area. 4 or 5 drivers did not know the place. The one who took me there understood "Maggies" pronounced in English. Someone back posted in the Forum that it is Mei Shi (beautiful jade) in Chinese. I must have mispronounced it. I know mei as in meili, so it must be "chi".Beware of taxi drivers at exit. You can easily get ripped off. Happened twice: picking red maos and giving back fake banknotes, taking phones and returning fake ones. BJ police, usually more efficient, looks very friendly with these local robbers.
Seekingals
10-04-11, 10:48
Here's a brief FR on a great girl I just had.
Name: Nina.
Age: 18.
Height: about 1. 67 cms.
Looks: cute.
Figure: slim, nice curve.
Skin: fair, smooth.
Boobs: very very big. 36D / E, fantastic!
Attitude: friendly, patient.
Overall: very nice, a great girl
Price: 600 yuan for ST.
Mamason: Kitty, a great outcall provider!
By the way, in order to get the right girls of your liking, you'd better SMS the mamason your demand, for she can not speak English very well.Very nice recommendation! I had a great time with this girl last night. She's a very nice girl just like this report above had said, well worth the 600 kuai!
Write another report on the second nice boobs girl called Lin Lin I just had from the same provider, Kitty:
Ages: 22.
Looks: a very sunny girl, looks mature and voluptuous, long straight black hair.
Height: about 164 cms.
Boobs: 38D, I think.
Figure: a pretty nice figure, big breast but slim, nice curve.
Services: good service and GFE.
Price: 600 for ST, well worth!
Spiderjerusalem
10-04-11, 13:51
I'm thinking of going up to Wangjing to some of those MPs. Is it advisable? Or is it still too close to National Day to be mucking around with that sort of thing?
Also debating whether or not to head to Yanjiao. I don't know. Place kind of bums me out with their psuedo anti-laowai attitude. Any suggestions of spa to check out? I've done Roman Holiday and Si Lu Hua Yu; found both lacking.
I was at a WJ MP about 3 weeks ago with one of my regular girls. Casually asked her about police raids. She said they're still regular. For massage w / HJ, guy gets a fine and few days in jail, girl usually gets a month. For fucking, guy gets one year in jail, girls gets two. Who knows if those stats are accurate, but certainly don't want to find out. Been avoiding MPs since then.
I'm thinking of going up to Wangjing to some of those MPs. Is it advisable? Or is it still too close to National Day to be mucking around with that sort of thing?
Also debating whether or not to head to Yanjiao. I don't know. Place kind of bums me out with their psuedo anti-laowai attitude. Any suggestions of spa to check out? I've done Roman Holiday and Si Lu Hua Yu; found both lacking.
Jude Bright
10-05-11, 06:31
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Bro,
Can you provide us how to find or contact Kitty?
Thanks
Very nice recommendation! I had a great time with this girl last night. She's a very nice girl just like this report above had said, well worth the 600 kuai!
Write another report on the second nice boobs girl called Lin Lin I just had from the same provider, Kitty:
Ages: 22.
Looks: a very sunny girl, looks mature and voluptuous, long straight black hair.
Height: about 164 cms.
Boobs: 38D, I think.
Figure: a pretty nice figure, big breast but slim, nice curve.
Services: good service and GFE.
Price: 600 for ST, well worth!
SmithyChen
10-05-11, 12:04
Recently got into a fight with my girlfriend so I began mongering again as I'm a horny bastard.
I decided to try out Angels. She was got the girl to my place right away, like how it should be done.
Girl's name was Xiao Xue from Sichuan province. She was perhaps 5 foot 5 but had huge breasts.
After a shower, talked a bit then she got it started. Teased my dick a bit with her mouth to get me hard and played around, before getting a condom over it.
Did all the customary positions, she tried pretty hard which kind of amazed since she was clearly getting very tired.
Anyway, the damage was 500+100 car fee. It was pretty good for a outcall service.
I also tried out a nearby massage parlor in Baiziwan, three have recently popped up on the Baiziwan Road near the Hou Xiandaicheng area which is been Shuangjing and the 4th Ring Road.
The price quoted was 200 for HJ massage and 400 for FS. You get to choose the girl. I didn't really care who, since none of them looked good and went in a with a petite one. The service was fairly mediocre and she started complaining in the middle, saying she was hurting, kind of made me lose the feeling for it after that. I probably won't go back with all the raids on the establishments these days but there are probably some gems in there.
hi everyone,
long time reader and first time post on china. i just got back from a trip to china where i stopped in beijing for a few days. i want to share with everyone a story that happened to me where i got scammed in a pretty elaborate plot i thought and serve as warning to all you who may be thinking of entertaining a similar situation.
about 2 months ago, i was browsing under casual encounters section on cl beijing hoping to find some "side" action in case i was bored. i probably replied to about 4 or 5 ads. i think all but 1 replied but most of them seemed like porn sites, escorts etc. one particularly stood out because the email was from what seemed like a normal girl; telling me about herself, work, interest etc. we emailed each other back and forth a few times and even exchanged pics. nothing seemed out of the ordinary as the pics were supposedly of her; they were not sexual or revealing in any way. she wasnt even that hot, i would say cute with a nice body. her name was "shuang shuang."
anyways i told her i would be in bj in a few weeks for business and if she wasnt busy maybe we could grab a drink or do lunch or something. she seemed to be up for that and gave me her. when i got to bj i was extremely busy but shot her a text that i was in town. she did reply right away in that she understood if i was too busy but would love to meet up & had some free time at night to grab drinks. the day before i left i called her and agreed to meet in a pretty crowded area in bj. btw i am chinese american and can speak mandarin fluently but cannot read. when i left my hotel to meet her, i gave my phone to the taxi driver to get exact location.
20 minutes later i get to the destination and there she was, waiting for me in front of some store she said she would be at. my first thoughts were that she resembled the girl in the pic but not exactly. in the pic she had short hair but in real life she had long. the 1st question i asked her was just that and she said the pics were from a year ago where she did have short hair and decided to let it grow. that shouldve been the 1st sign but i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
we walked around for a while and this girl seemed pretty friendly. she had just moved to bj about a year ago for work and basically gave me her story which seemed pretty reasonable. after a while we decided to get a drink but not knowing the area at all, i asked to her to recommend a place. we saw a bar in an alley and she suggested grabbing a drink there. the place looked quite shady so i said lets pass and find somewhere else. that shouldve been the 2nd sign. anyways we walked around for a bit and she didn't seem to know the area that well either. eventually we stumbled across another alley that seemed to have several bars and there were people around the area so she suggested we give it a try. i said why not and we went in one of them.
the place (i forget the name) seemed like a normal chinese pub. there were some patrons there and bartender gave us a menu and prices seemed reasonable. i ordered a beer for 50rmb and she ordered a glass of wine for 60rmb. she also ordered some snacks (peanuts and sunflower seeds) and a pot of tea. everything was going well and before i knew it 1 drink led to 3 which led to a few more. it seemed that this girl was getting tipsy and started acting clumsy and stupid. we kissed a few times and i could tell she was into me. of course i was getting a bit buzzed and thinking i can probably take this girl home. finally decided to get going and when the tab came it was about 3500rmb! ( $550usd). i was like wtf and asked for a complete breakdown. bartender itemized every charge which included a shitload of charges. the snacks were like $40 usd each and pot of tea was ridiculous amt as well. he charged me the bottle ( $250) for the wine because they said they opened the bottle just for us. there was also a 15% service fee on top. i started to get pissed and even asked for the bottle. he gladly gave it to me and said it was mine to finish if i pleased.
i knew about stories like this and if i didn't pay they would surround me with gangsters until i paid. i decided the best situation for me was to pay it and call it a night to avoid any issues. the girl even tried to calm me down & suggested i pay the tab because there could be guys in the back ready to harm "us" if we didn't pay. she said "us". she even offered to chip in but after thinking about it, i thought the best solution was to pay it and get the fuck out of there. so while i paid the tab i noticed her chug the rest of the bottle of wine.
when we left, she was obviously drunk and get apologizing for taking me to that place. she was like i didn't their set up was like that and didn't realize they would rip us off etc etc. she couldn't walk well and i had to hold her up. eventually she had to sit down to rest a bit. then she's like i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and get some water or else she was going to throw up. right across the street there was another bar; she said she needed to go in and use their bathroom. so off we went and she told me to wait at the bar while she went to the bathroom and asked me to order her some tea. so i did and bartender starts to make the tea and brings out a glass of wine. i said i didn't order this and he said your girl ordered it for you on her way to the bathroom.
thats when it hit me! i said no thanks and they said we already opened the bottle! the girl came back and i was like lets get the fuck out of here. the bartender said i had to pay the tab which was another $300usd! i had to pay for the tea, the bottle of wine and the serice charge. pretty soon 2 or 3 more dudes came out. i was basically forced to pay otherwise i think they wouldve kicked my ass. i reluctantly pay it but at this time i'm fucking pissed off and tell the girl lets go back to my hotel. i guess i was still thinking i could get laid.
she starts acting up, saying she's too drunk to walk; saying she wants to sleep on the street and that i should stay with her. i said no, lets go back and she refuses causing a scene. finally i realized, that none of the events that happened this night were by chance. it was all staged. she was in on it from the beginning. she had orchestrated the entire set up. the first shady bar was to be the original target but since i passed she had to go to other options. the bar that we actually went to, she also was in on it. she pretended like she had no idea and offered to chip in was all a scam and to gain my trust. this led her to be able to get me to go into that last bar. she knew it was late and tried to squeeze as much out of me as she could. she knew by acting drunk it would get me to stay with her with the hopes of sex later and she knew that was her upper edge.
that moment of clarity hit me like a ton of bricks. all of a sudden i realized i was in fucking beijing and that the fact i was still unmarmed was pretty amazing. i've heard stories of tourists getting drugged, robbed, beaten, kidnapped and even the urban legends like getting your organs harvested. so, with most of my money gone, i took off and let this dirty, lying fucking twat lie in street where she pretended to have been passed out drunk. i'm sure as soon as i left she got up with no issues and went back to the 2 bars to collect her earnings.
i guess reflecting back i am happy that i wasnt hurt and i only loss about $1, 000usd. of course i felt fucking retarded afterwards but hey, lesson learned. i've been all throughout asia and have always been mindful of scams and smart enough to avoid them. this time, i definitely got it good.
readers- sorry for such a long post but i thought i should share this with all of you so you can avoid what i did. you guys probably think i was stupid as well but when we are fucked up, people do dumb shit. i have this girls pictures, email address and phone numbers if you are interested. you can always email me for this detail. don't let it happen to you!
hi everyone,
long time reader and first time post on china. i just got back from a trip to china where i stopped in beijing for a few days. i want to share with everyone a story that happened to me where i got scammed in a pretty elaborate plot i thought and serve as warning to all you who may be thinking of entertaining a similar situation.
about 2 months ago, i was browsing under casual encounters section on cl beijing hoping to find some "side" action in case i was bored. i probably replied to about 4 or 5 ads. i think all but 1 replied but most of them seemed like porn sites, escorts etc. one particularly stood out because the email was from what seemed like a normal girl; telling me about herself, work, interest etc. we emailed each other back and forth a few times and even exchanged pics. nothing seemed out of the ordinary as the pics were supposedly of her; they were not sexual or revealing in any way. she wasnt even that hot, i would say cute with a nice body. her name was "shuang shuang."
anyways i told her i would be in bj in a few weeks for business and if she wasnt busy maybe we could grab a drink or do lunch or something. she seemed to be up for that and gave me her. when i got to bj i was extremely busy but shot her a text that i was in town. she did reply right away in that she understood if i was too busy but would love to meet up & had some free time at night to grab drinks. the day before i left i called her and agreed to meet in a pretty crowded area in bj. btw i am chinese american and can speak mandarin fluently but cannot read. when i left my hotel to meet her, i gave my phone to the taxi driver to get exact location.
20 minutes later i get to the destination and there she was, waiting for me in front of some store she said she would be at. my first thoughts were that she resembled the girl in the pic but not exactly. in the pic she had short hair but in real life she had long. the 1st question i asked her was just that and she said the pics were from a year ago where she did have short hair and decided to let it grow. that shouldve been the 1st sign but i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
we walked around for a while and this girl seemed pretty friendly. she had just moved to bj about a year ago for work and basically gave me her story which seemed pretty reasonable. after a while we decided to get a drink but not knowing the area at all, i asked to her to recommend a place. we saw a bar in an alley and she suggested grabbing a drink there. the place looked quite shady so i said lets pass and find somewhere else. that shouldve been the 2nd sign. anyways we walked around for a bit and she didn't seem to know the area that well either. eventually we stumbled across another alley that seemed to have several bars and there were people around the area so she suggested we give it a try. i said why not and we went in one of them.
the place (i forget the name) seemed like a normal chinese pub. there were some patrons there and bartender gave us a menu and prices seemed reasonable. i ordered a beer for 50rmb and she ordered a glass of wine for 60rmb. she also ordered some snacks (peanuts and sunflower seeds) and a pot of tea. everything was going well and before i knew it 1 drink led to 3 which led to a few more. it seemed that this girl was getting tipsy and started acting clumsy and stupid. we kissed a few times and i could tell she was into me. of course i was getting a bit buzzed and thinking i can probably take this girl home. finally decided to get going and when the tab came it was about 3500rmb! ($550usd). i was like wtf and asked for a complete breakdown. bartender itemized every charge which included a shitload of charges. the snacks were like $40 usd each and pot of tea was ridiculous amt as well. he charged me the bottle ($250) for the wine because they said they opened the bottle just for us. there was also a 15% service fee on top. i started to get pissed and even asked for the bottle. he gladly gave it to me and said it was mine to finish if i pleased.
i knew about stories like this and if i didn't pay they would surround me with gangsters until i paid. i decided the best situation for me was to pay it and call it a night to avoid any issues. the girl even tried to calm me down & suggested i pay the tab because there could be guys in the back ready to harm "us" if we didn't pay. she said "us". she even offered to chip in but after thinking about it, i thought the best solution was to pay it and get the fuck out of there. so while i paid the tab i noticed her chug the rest of the bottle of wine.
when we left, she was obviously drunk and get apologizing for taking me to that place. she was like i didn't their set up was like that and didn't realize they would rip us off etc etc. she couldn't walk well and i had to hold her up. eventually she had to sit down to rest a bit. then she's like i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and get some water or else she was going to throw up. right across the street there was another bar; she said she needed to go in and use their bathroom. so off we went and she told me to wait at the bar while she went to the bathroom and asked me to order her some tea. so i did and bartender starts to make the tea and brings out a glass of wine. i said i didn't order this and he said your girl ordered it for you on her way to the bathroom.
thats when it hit me! i said no thanks and they said we already opened the bottle! the girl came back and i was like lets get the fuck out of here. the bartender said i had to pay the tab which was another $300usd! i had to pay for the tea, the bottle of wine and the serice charge. pretty soon 2 or 3 more dudes came out. i was basically forced to pay otherwise i think they wouldve kicked my ass. i reluctantly pay it but at this time i'm fucking pissed off and tell the girl lets go back to my hotel. i guess i was still thinking i could get laid.
she starts acting up, saying she's too drunk to walk; saying she wants to sleep on the street and that i should stay with her. i said no, lets go back and she refuses causing a scene. finally i realized, that none of the events that happened this night were by chance. it was all staged. she was in on it from the beginning. she had orchestrated the entire set up. the first shady bar was to be the original target but since i passed she had to go to other options. the bar that we actually went to, she also was in on it. she pretended like she had no idea and offered to chip in was all a scam and to gain my trust. this led her to be able to get me to go into that last bar. she knew it was late and tried to squeeze as much out of me as she could. she knew by acting drunk it would get me to stay with her with the hopes of sex later and she knew that was her upper edge.
that moment of clarity hit me like a ton of bricks. all of a sudden i realized i was in fucking beijing and that the fact i was still unmarmed was pretty amazing. i've heard stories of tourists getting drugged, robbed, beaten, kidnapped and even the urban legends like getting your organs harvested. so, with most of my money gone, i took off and let this dirty, lying fucking twat lie in street where she pretended to have been passed out drunk. i'm sure as soon as i left she got up with no issues and went back to the 2 bars to collect her earnings.
i guess reflecting back i am happy that i wasnt hurt and i only loss about $1, 000usd. of course i felt fucking retarded afterwards but hey, lesson learned. i've been all throughout asia and have always been mindful of scams and smart enough to avoid them. this time, i definitely got it good.
readers- sorry for such a long post but i thought i should share this with all of you so you can avoid what i did. you guys probably think i was stupid as well but when we are fucked up, people do dumb shit. i have this girls pictures, email address and phone numbers if you are interested. you can always email me for this detail. don't let it happen to you!little head doing the thinking.
happens all the time.
an expensive lesson, or was that a cheap lesson?
p13
Guitarrefreak
10-06-11, 06:10
sorry to hear about your encounters, even seasoned travelers sometimes get into situations like this if their big head is not doing the thinking.
usd1k is a small price to pay i think, and look on the bright side, you now have a 'fantastic' story to tell your friends and new girlfriends. just make sure you leave the unnecessary details out.
hi everyone,
long time reader and first time post on china. i just got back from a trip to china where i stopped in beijing for a few days. i want to share with everyone a story that happened to me where i got scammed in a pretty elaborate plot i thought and serve as warning to all you who may be thinking of entertaining a similar situation.
about 2 months ago, i was browsing under casual encounters section on cl beijing hoping to find some "side" action in case i was bored. i probably replied to about 4 or 5 ads. i think all but 1 replied but most of them seemed like porn sites, escorts etc. one particularly stood out because the email was from what seemed like a normal girl; telling me about herself, work, interest etc. we emailed each other back and forth a few times and even exchanged pics. nothing seemed out of the ordinary as the pics were supposedly of her; they were not sexual or revealing in any way. she wasnt even that hot, i would say cute with a nice body. her name was "shuang shuang."
anyways i told her i would be in bj in a few weeks for business and if she wasnt busy maybe we could grab a drink or do lunch or something. she seemed to be up for that and gave me her. when i got to bj i was extremely busy but shot her a text that i was in town. she did reply right away in that she understood if i was too busy but would love to meet up & had some free time at night to grab drinks. the day before i left i called her and agreed to meet in a pretty crowded area in bj. btw i am chinese american and can speak mandarin fluently but cannot read. when i left my hotel to meet her, i gave my phone to the taxi driver to get exact location.
20 minutes later i get to the destination and there she was, waiting for me in front of some store she said she would be at. my first thoughts were that she resembled the girl in the pic but not exactly. in the pic she had short hair but in real life she had long. the 1st question i asked her was just that and she said the pics were from a year ago where she did have short hair and decided to let it grow. that shouldve been the 1st sign but i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
we walked around for a while and this girl seemed pretty friendly. she had just moved to bj about a year ago for work and basically gave me her story which seemed pretty reasonable. after a while we decided to get a drink but not knowing the area at all, i asked to her to recommend a place. we saw a bar in an alley and she suggested grabbing a drink there. the place looked quite shady so i said lets pass and find somewhere else. that shouldve been the 2nd sign. anyways we walked around for a bit and she didn't seem to know the area that well either. eventually we stumbled across another alley that seemed to have several bars and there were people around the area so she suggested we give it a try. i said why not and we went in one of them.
the place (i forget the name) seemed like a normal chinese pub. there were some patrons there and bartender gave us a menu and prices seemed reasonable. i ordered a beer for 50rmb and she ordered a glass of wine for 60rmb. she also ordered some snacks (peanuts and sunflower seeds) and a pot of tea. everything was going well and before i knew it 1 drink led to 3 which led to a few more. it seemed that this girl was getting tipsy and started acting clumsy and stupid. we kissed a few times and i could tell she was into me. of course i was getting a bit buzzed and thinking i can probably take this girl home. finally decided to get going and when the tab came it was about 3500rmb! ($550usd). i was like wtf and asked for a complete breakdown. bartender itemized every charge which included a shitload of charges. the snacks were like $40 usd each and pot of tea was ridiculous amt as well. he charged me the bottle ($250) for the wine because they said they opened the bottle just for us. there was also a 15% service fee on top. i started to get pissed and even asked for the bottle. he gladly gave it to me and said it was mine to finish if i pleased.
i knew about stories like this and if i didn't pay they would surround me with gangsters until i paid. i decided the best situation for me was to pay it and call it a night to avoid any issues. the girl even tried to calm me down & suggested i pay the tab because there could be guys in the back ready to harm "us" if we didn't pay. she said "us". she even offered to chip in but after thinking about it, i thought the best solution was to pay it and get the fuck out of there. so while i paid the tab i noticed her chug the rest of the bottle of wine.
when we left, she was obviously drunk and get apologizing for taking me to that place. she was like i didn't their set up was like that and didn't realize they would rip us off etc etc. she couldn't walk well and i had to hold her up. eventually she had to sit down to rest a bit. then she's like i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and get some water or else she was going to throw up. right across the street there was another bar; she said she needed to go in and use their bathroom. so off we went and she told me to wait at the bar while she went to the bathroom and asked me to order her some tea. so i did and bartender starts to make the tea and brings out a glass of wine. i said i didn't order this and he said your girl ordered it for you on her way to the bathroom.
thats when it hit me! i said no thanks and they said we already opened the bottle! the girl came back and i was like lets get the fuck out of here. the bartender said i had to pay the tab which was another $300usd! i had to pay for the tea, the bottle of wine and the serice charge. pretty soon 2 or 3 more dudes came out. i was basically forced to pay otherwise i think they wouldve kicked my ass. i reluctantly pay it but at this time i'm fucking pissed off and tell the girl lets go back to my hotel. i guess i was still thinking i could get laid.
she starts acting up, saying she's too drunk to walk; saying she wants to sleep on the street and that i should stay with her. i said no, lets go back and she refuses causing a scene. finally i realized, that none of the events that happened this night were by chance. it was all staged. she was in on it from the beginning. she had orchestrated the entire set up. the first shady bar was to be the original target but since i passed she had to go to other options. the bar that we actually went to, she also was in on it. she pretended like she had no idea and offered to chip in was all a scam and to gain my trust. this led her to be able to get me to go into that last bar. she knew it was late and tried to squeeze as much out of me as she could. she knew by acting drunk it would get me to stay with her with the hopes of sex later and she knew that was her upper edge.
that moment of clarity hit me like a ton of bricks. all of a sudden i realized i was in fucking beijing and that the fact i was still unmarmed was pretty amazing. i've heard stories of tourists getting drugged, robbed, beaten, kidnapped and even the urban legends like getting your organs harvested. so, with most of my money gone, i took off and let this dirty, lying fucking twat lie in street where she pretended to have been passed out drunk. i'm sure as soon as i left she got up with no issues and went back to the 2 bars to collect her earnings.
i guess reflecting back i am happy that i wasnt hurt and i only loss about $1, 000usd. of course i felt fucking retarded afterwards but hey, lesson learned. i've been all throughout asia and have always been mindful of scams and smart enough to avoid them. this time, i definitely got it good.
readers- sorry for such a long post but i thought i should share this with all of you so you can avoid what i did. you guys probably think i was stupid as well but when we are fucked up, people do dumb shit. i have this girls pictures, email address and phone numbers if you are interested. you can always email me for this detail. don't let it happen to you!
Seekingals
10-06-11, 10:06
Sad to hear that!
Things like this happen all the time in China actually.
So if you are new to Beijing or don't know Beijing well,
You'd better follow the recommendations / suggestions / advices
Given by nice guys on this board, especially those senior guys
Who contributed much to Beijing board.
I think, the easiest way to get girls is to make a phone call to
Any of the reliable out call providers like Kitty, Maria, Lily, Angel etc.
Going to bars like Maggies, Chocolate, Pig etc,
Or visiting saunas or KTVs are nice choices as well.
I'm sure you'll get gems via these reliable establishments above.
CL girls are not a nice choice at all, especially for those new travellers.
Seekingals.
Hi Everyone,
Long time reader and first time post on China. I just got back from a trip to China where I stopped in Beijing for a few days. I want to share with everyone a story that happened to me where I got scammed in a pretty elaborate plot I thought and serve as warning to all you who may be thinking of entertaining a similar situation.
About 2 months ago, I was browsing under Casual Encounters section on CL Beijing hoping to find some "side" action in case I was bored. I probably replied to about 4 or 5 ads. I think all but 1 replied but most of them seemed like porn sites, escorts etc. One particularly stood out because the email was from what seemed like a normal girl; telling me about herself, work, interest etc. We emailed each other back and forth a few times and even exchanged pics. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary as the pics were supposedly of her; they were not sexual or revealing in any way. She wasnt even that hot, I would say cute with a nice body. Her name was "Shuang Shuang."
Readers- sorry for such a long post but I thought I should share this with all of you so you can avoid what I did. You guys probably think I was stupid as well but when we are fucked up, people do dumb shit. I have this girls pictures, email address and phone numbers if you are interested. You can always email me for this detail. Don't let it happen to you!
Seekingals
10-06-11, 10:33
Bro,
Can you provide us how to find or contact Kitty?
ThanksBro, I'll put those reliable providers' contacts I know
On 'Classified Ads' thread under China later.
So far, they are Kitty, Maria, Angel, Lily.
Just for those guys who can't send / receive PM yet, but I hope you can
Buy membership subscriptions soon to support Jackson.
Seekingals.
Craiglist is mainly rip-off. It's better to use the providers reported here: lili, maria, etc.That's cool. Hope to see your reports, El Frances.
Seekingals
I was at a WJ MP about 3 weeks ago with one of my regular girls. Casually asked her about police raids. She said they're still regular. For massage w / HJ, guy gets a fine and few days in jail, girl usually gets a month. For fucking, guy gets one year in jail, girls gets two. Who knows if those stats are accurate, but certainly don't want to find out. Been avoiding MPs since then.I stopped by Wangjing before the holiday began and found the MP that I visited frequently has closed for "renovation". There was clearly no sign of any renovation work inside, but the door was closed and it was all dark. I found that pretty strange as during the Olympics in 2008, which was considered a time of tightest alert, that place was still operating. I stopped by another one and found that closed as well. I went to 2 others that were mentioned by some brothers on this site earlier. They were opened but had only very few girls left and the quality was fairly poor.
I believe there must be some sort of hard-strike LE actions going on. Has any brother heard anything?
I went to Wangjing on Oct 2nd around 2 PM. Went to 419 basement first. Nothing was open except a mahjong game. Then I must have stumbled into the rear entrance of 419 because 3 or 4 girls were walking out. The way they were dressed I knew they were in the business. In my broken Chinese, I asked them where the massage parlor is. They pointed to the first door on the right as you descend into the basement. It was closed. They told me it will be closed for several days because of the holidays.
Refusing to give up, I checked my ISG notes and looked for 405, which according to someone's earlier ISG post was the first building on the left as soon as you enter the main gate. That is wrong. That building is 406. The next building is 405, which was open. I went in, asked for the "complete massage" which was ¥168 for 90 minutes as shown on the pricelist. The man brought a pretty and voluptuous 18yo Xi'an girl and asked if she was okay. I said yes. As soon as she locked the door, I took off all my clothes. She started massaging my back and within 2-3 minutes started on my butt and groin area. Then she asked me to turn over, laid next to me and started jacking me off. I asked her to lift up her dress which she did. I removed her bra and played with her beautiful boobs. She also allowed me to play with her pussy. I inserted my finger into it. She came once rather quickly then asked me to stop. I complied, still playing with her boobs. I came pretty soon.
She cleaned me with tissue, and then left the room. I sat there wondering if 'is this it? ' She came back and started massaging me. We started talking. I found out that they are 24-hours, usually 5-6 girls but as many as 10-12 during the busy period. I forgot to ask her if there are many laowai patrons. I am Chinese from USA. After about 1 hour of very bad massaging, I told her to stop, as I was short of time. If I wanted it, I probably could have gotten another HJ within the 90 minutes. I tipped her ¥20 which made her smile.
Jude Bright
10-07-11, 10:37
Went to Yanjiao this morning and got in at noon time. I went to Fucheng first and arrived at about 1 pm. Had routine check in, had a shower and scrubbed by a guy. Then went to upstairs for action. Went up to 3rd floor and request a room for baojian. A guy come in and introduce the services. He told me there is no "F" available. All legit massage for 150 to 180 rmb. I left the place immediately and went to SLHY. After a quick shower because I just had been through cleannd. Go upstairs and asked for service. Was directed to a room followed by a lineup, may be 10 to 15. Nothing spectacular, all average. Seig sellect a Dongbai girl with a big smile because she smile to me and seems say choose me. A wrong choice. She asked me whether I want the red bed. I said why not. A second wrong choice. We wnet in th room with a red bed, an interesting setting. But, she rushed everything. Gave me a brief boob wash, a quick rim, then a quick BBBJ. As I just come out of the State sex jail and blowed my load in her month. All in 20 minutes.
Lessen learned:
1. Take control.
2. I did not like the red bed as all.
3. Asked for a change.
JB
Went to Yanjiao this morning and got in at noon time. I went to Fucheng first and arrived at about 1 pm. Had routine check in, had a shower and scrubbed by a guy. Then went to upstairs for action. Went up to 3rd floor and request a room for baojian. A guy come in and introduce the services. He told me there is no "F" available. All legit massage for 150 to 180 rmb. I left the place immediately and went to SLHY. After a quick shower because I just had been through cleannd. Go upstairs and asked for service. Was directed to a room followed by a lineup, may be 10 to 15. Nothing spectacular, all average. Seig sellect a Dongbai girl with a big smile because she smile to me and seems say choose me. A wrong choice. She asked me whether I want the red bed. I said why not. A second wrong choice. We wnet in th room with a red bed, an interesting setting. But, she rushed everything. Gave me a brief boob wash, a quick rim, then a quick BBBJ. As I just come out of the State sex jail and blowed my load in her month. All in 20 minutes.
Lessen learned:
1. Take control.
2. I did not like the red bed as all.
3. Asked for a change.
JBYeah, I agree, SLHY is getting a bit boring, went last week and the lineup was very average. Picked a girl I had seen downstairs, they were all doing the rounds looking for a starter. She had a sour look on her dial right from the start, and refused BBBJ wanted to cover up so changed to another. Service was OK but it is all looking more and more like a f*k factory, everything is rushed and no GF experience at all. Interesting to hear about Fushun, whats going on there?
Had a look at Roman Holiday with Nameci and another M8, it is certainly cleaner and more selection, but double the price and no BJ sent me running to SLHY.
Think it's back to outcalls for me, although the massage is good at SLHY, maybe better to stick to that.
hi everyone,
long time reader and first time post on china. i just got back from a trip to china where i stopped in beijing for a few days. i want to share with everyone a story that happened to me where i got scammed in a pretty elaborate plot i thought and serve as warning to all you who may be thinking of entertaining a similar situation.
about 2 months ago, i was browsing under casual encounters section on cl beijing hoping to find some "side" action in case i was bored. i probably replied to about 4 or 5 ads. i think all but 1 replied but most of them seemed like porn sites, escorts etc. one particularly stood out because the email was from what seemed like a normal girl; telling me about herself, work, interest etc. we emailed each other back and forth a few times and even exchanged pics. nothing seemed out of the ordinary as the pics were supposedly of her; they were not sexual or revealing in any way. she wasnt even that hot, i would say cute with a nice body. her name was "shuang shuang."
anyways i told her i would be in bj in a few weeks for business and if she wasnt busy maybe we could grab a drink or do lunch or something. she seemed to be up for that and gave me her. when i got to bj i was extremely busy but shot her a text that i was in town. she did reply right away in that she understood if i was too busy but would love to meet up & had some free time at night to grab drinks. the day before i left i called her and agreed to meet in a pretty crowded area in bj. btw i am chinese american and can speak mandarin fluently but cannot read. when i left my hotel to meet her, i gave my phone to the taxi driver to get exact location.
20 minutes later i get to the destination and there she was, waiting for me in front of some store she said she would be at. my first thoughts were that she resembled the girl in the pic but not exactly. in the pic she had short hair but in real life she had long. the 1st question i asked her was just that and she said the pics were from a year ago where she did have short hair and decided to let it grow. that shouldve been the 1st sign but i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
we walked around for a while and this girl seemed pretty friendly. she had just moved to bj about a year ago for work and basically gave me her story which seemed pretty reasonable. after a while we decided to get a drink but not knowing the area at all, i asked to her to recommend a place. we saw a bar in an alley and she suggested grabbing a drink there. the place looked quite shady so i said lets pass and find somewhere else. that shouldve been the 2nd sign. anyways we walked around for a bit and she didn't seem to know the area that well either. eventually we stumbled across another alley that seemed to have several bars and there were people around the area so she suggested we give it a try. i said why not and we went in one of them.
the place (i forget the name) seemed like a normal chinese pub. there were some patrons there and bartender gave us a menu and prices seemed reasonable. i ordered a beer for 50rmb and she ordered a glass of wine for 60rmb. she also ordered some snacks (peanuts and sunflower seeds) and a pot of tea. everything was going well and before i knew it 1 drink led to 3 which led to a few more. it seemed that this girl was getting tipsy and started acting clumsy and stupid. we kissed a few times and i could tell she was into me. of course i was getting a bit buzzed and thinking i can probably take this girl home. finally decided to get going and when the tab came it was about 3500rmb! ($550usd). i was like wtf and asked for a complete breakdown. bartender itemized every charge which included a shitload of charges. the snacks were like $40 usd each and pot of tea was ridiculous amt as well. he charged me the bottle ($250) for the wine because they said they opened the bottle just for us. there was also a 15% service fee on top. i started to get pissed and even asked for the bottle. he gladly gave it to me and said it was mine to finish if i pleased.
i knew about stories like this and if i didn't pay they would surround me with gangsters until i paid. i decided the best situation for me was to pay it and call it a night to avoid any issues. the girl even tried to calm me down & suggested i pay the tab because there could be guys in the back ready to harm "us" if we didn't pay. she said "us". she even offered to chip in but after thinking about it, i thought the best solution was to pay it and get the fuck out of there. so while i paid the tab i noticed her chug the rest of the bottle of wine.
when we left, she was obviously drunk and get apologizing for taking me to that place. she was like i didn't their set up was like that and didn't realize they would rip us off etc etc. she couldn't walk well and i had to hold her up. eventually she had to sit down to rest a bit. then she's like i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and get some water or else she was going to throw up. right across the street there was another bar; she said she needed to go in and use their bathroom. so off we went and she told me to wait at the bar while she went to the bathroom and asked me to order her some tea. so i did and bartender starts to make the tea and brings out a glass of wine. i said i didn't order this and he said your girl ordered it for you on her way to the bathroom.
thats when it hit me! i said no thanks and they said we already opened the bottle! the girl came back and i was like lets get the fuck out of here. the bartender said i had to pay the tab which was another $300usd! i had to pay for the tea, the bottle of wine and the serice charge. pretty soon 2 or 3 more dudes came out. i was basically forced to pay otherwise i think they wouldve kicked my ass. i reluctantly pay it but at this time i'm fucking pissed off and tell the girl lets go back to my hotel. i guess i was still thinking i could get laid.
she starts acting up, saying she's too drunk to walk; saying she wants to sleep on the street and that i should stay with her. i said no, lets go back and she refuses causing a scene. finally i realized, that none of the events that happened this night were by chance. it was all staged. she was in on it from the beginning. she had orchestrated the entire set up. the first shady bar was to be the original target but since i passed she had to go to other options. the bar that we actually went to, she also was in on it. she pretended like she had no idea and offered to chip in was all a scam and to gain my trust. this led her to be able to get me to go into that last bar. she knew it was late and tried to squeeze as much out of me as she could. she knew by acting drunk it would get me to stay with her with the hopes of sex later and she knew that was her upper edge.
that moment of clarity hit me like a ton of bricks. all of a sudden i realized i was in fucking beijing and that the fact i was still unmarmed was pretty amazing. i've heard stories of tourists getting drugged, robbed, beaten, kidnapped and even the urban legends like getting your organs harvested. so, with most of my money gone, i took off and let this dirty, lying fucking twat lie in street where she pretended to have been passed out drunk. i'm sure as soon as i left she got up with no issues and went back to the 2 bars to collect her earnings.
i guess reflecting back i am happy that i wasnt hurt and i only loss about $1, 000usd. of course i felt fucking retarded afterwards but hey, lesson learned. i've been all throughout asia and have always been mindful of scams and smart enough to avoid them. this time, i definitely got it good.
readers- sorry for such a long post but i thought i should share this with all of you so you can avoid what i did. you guys probably think i was stupid as well but when we are fucked up, people do dumb shit. i have this girls pictures, email address and phone numbers if you are interested. you can always email me for this detail. don't let it happen to you!no m8 you are not stupid or retarded, just another trusting soul from the west that didn't know how low these little chinese see*ts will stoop for the mighty yuan. i had the same experience and so did many others, some don't report it i think because they don't want to admit that they could be caught like this, but it's a common scam here in beijing. just a pity you didn't get the name of the bar. if it happens again my suggestion to anyone who knows about it is not to run, but go along, and get these details.
as someone reported a long way back, making a lot of noise later in the establishment can sometimes get a refund, and a photo can be posted on here and other places. there must be a way to get these slags off the street. if the police are so keen to clean up beijing, they should be interested in doing something about this grubby little scam.
please post her pic, lets all see what the scumbag looks like, someone is bound to encounter her again.
i had the phone number of my doer, sent her some regular messages telling her i had paid a big crazy f*ker to find her and say hello, for me. maybe gave her cause to worry for a little while anyway? hopefully about the same amount of time i worried about the money she ripped off me. wish i'd got a photo, but i will know her if i see her again, good english, solid built with noticeably bandy legs. hanging around fuxingmen, beware!
Jude Bright
10-09-11, 04:30
Went to Regency yesterday afternoon at about 3 pm. Just before I walkd in the entrance, I got a call from my friend. I immediately walked out and chated with him over the phone outside of the entrance for about 10 minutes. I think that was a big mistake. AS I walked in the place again and got a cool feeling. I was told immedately by a guy that all legit massage for 150 to 180. No special massage available. I thought may be as I get in I can get more details. I said, OK. As I walked downstair to the shower area, there was no one help you and only a small light. The entire shower area was dard and empty. At that point, I knew I will go nowhere. So I walked out the place right away.
JB
Went to Regency yesterday afternoon at about 3 pm. Just before I walkd in the entrance, I got a call from my friend. I immediately walked out and chated with him over the phone outside of the entrance for about 10 minutes. I think that was a big mistake. AS I walked in the place again and got a cool feeling. I was told immedately by a guy that all legit massage for 150 to 180. No special massage available. I thought may be as I get in I can get more details. I said, OK. As I walked downstair to the shower area, there was no one help you and only a small light. The entire shower area was dard and empty. At that point, I knew I will go nowhere. So I walked out the place right away.
JBThat's a bit odd. I wasn't there yesterday, but I happen to know the place has been operating normally over the October break, including, as far as I know, yesterday. Perhaps, as you say, it was the phone call that rattled them (the managers are a careful lot).
As someone reported a long way back, making a lot of noise later in the establishment can sometimes get a refund,Making a lot of noise in the establishment on the spot when they're scamming you can sometimes help as well; it did in my case in SH a couple weeks ago when I fell for the infamous 2-girl karaoke version. I posted all the details over in the SH forum, but the take-away was that after I was presented with the 1900 RMB bill, I refused to pay, offered 500, and made a quick dash for the door to the KTV room, opened it, and started yelling HELP HELP HELP! They backed off and accepted the 500 I offered them. KTV establishments in particular do have legitimate customers, and I doubt they'd all stand idly by if a big scene spilled over into the hallways.
The story did have an even happier ending. Two nights later I saw one of the girls trolling for suckers in XinTianDi again, and I managed to stop her and convince her to give back 300 of my 500!
Hooters For Ever
10-10-11, 22:13
hi everyone,
long time reader and first time post on china. i just got back from a trip to china where i stopped in beijing for a few days. i want to share with everyone a story that happened to me where i got scammed in a pretty elaborate plot i thought and serve as warning to all you who may be thinking of entertaining a similar situation.
about 2 months ago, i was browsing under casual encounters section on cl beijing hoping to find some "side" action in case i was bored. i probably replied to about 4 or 5 ads. i think all but 1 replied but most of them seemed like porn sites, escorts etc. one particularly stood out because the email was from what seemed like a normal girl; telling me about herself, work, interest etc. we emailed each other back and forth a few times and even exchanged pics. nothing seemed out of the ordinary as the pics were supposedly of her; they were not sexual or revealing in any way. she wasnt even that hot, i would say cute with a nice body. her name was "shuang shuang."
anyways i told her i would be in bj in a few weeks for business and if she wasnt busy maybe we could grab a drink or do lunch or something. she seemed to be up for that and gave me her. when i got to bj i was extremely busy but shot her a text that i was in town. she did reply right away in that she understood if i was too busy but would love to meet up & had some free time at night to grab drinks. the day before i left i called her and agreed to meet in a pretty crowded area in bj. btw i am chinese american and can speak mandarin fluently but cannot read. when i left my hotel to meet her, i gave my phone to the taxi driver to get exact location.
20 minutes later i get to the destination and there she was, waiting for me in front of some store she said she would be at. my first thoughts were that she resembled the girl in the pic but not exactly. in the pic she had short hair but in real life she had long. the 1st question i asked her was just that and she said the pics were from a year ago where she did have short hair and decided to let it grow. that shouldve been the 1st sign but i gave her the benefit of the doubt.
we walked around for a while and this girl seemed pretty friendly. she had just moved to bj about a year ago for work and basically gave me her story which seemed pretty reasonable. after a while we decided to get a drink but not knowing the area at all, i asked to her to recommend a place. we saw a bar in an alley and she suggested grabbing a drink there. the place looked quite shady so i said lets pass and find somewhere else. that shouldve been the 2nd sign. anyways we walked around for a bit and she didn't seem to know the area that well either. eventually we stumbled across another alley that seemed to have several bars and there were people around the area so she suggested we give it a try. i said why not and we went in one of them.
the place (i forget the name) seemed like a normal chinese pub. there were some patrons there and bartender gave us a menu and prices seemed reasonable. i ordered a beer for 50rmb and she ordered a glass of wine for 60rmb. she also ordered some snacks (peanuts and sunflower seeds) and a pot of tea. everything was going well and before i knew it 1 drink led to 3 which led to a few more. it seemed that this girl was getting tipsy and started acting clumsy and stupid. we kissed a few times and i could tell she was into me. of course i was getting a bit buzzed and thinking i can probably take this girl home. finally decided to get going and when the tab came it was about 3500rmb! ($550usd). i was like wtf and asked for a complete breakdown. bartender itemized every charge which included a shitload of charges. the snacks were like $40 usd each and pot of tea was ridiculous amt as well. he charged me the bottle ($250) for the wine because they said they opened the bottle just for us. there was also a 15% service fee on top. i started to get pissed and even asked for the bottle. he gladly gave it to me and said it was mine to finish if i pleased.
i knew about stories like this and if i didn't pay they would surround me with gangsters until i paid. i decided the best situation for me was to pay it and call it a night to avoid any issues. the girl even tried to calm me down & suggested i pay the tab because there could be guys in the back ready to harm "us" if we didn't pay. she said "us". she even offered to chip in but after thinking about it, i thought the best solution was to pay it and get the fuck out of there. so while i paid the tab i noticed her chug the rest of the bottle of wine.
when we left, she was obviously drunk and get apologizing for taking me to that place. she was like i didn't their set up was like that and didn't realize they would rip us off etc etc. she couldn't walk well and i had to hold her up. eventually she had to sit down to rest a bit. then she's like i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and get some water or else she was going to throw up. right across the street there was another bar; she said she needed to go in and use their bathroom. so off we went and she told me to wait at the bar while she went to the bathroom and asked me to order her some tea. so i did and bartender starts to make the tea and brings out a glass of wine. i said i didn't order this and he said your girl ordered it for you on her way to the bathroom.
thats when it hit me! i said no thanks and they said we already opened the bottle! the girl came back and i was like lets get the fuck out of here. the bartender said i had to pay the tab which was another $300usd! i had to pay for the tea, the bottle of wine and the serice charge. pretty soon 2 or 3 more dudes came out. i was basically forced to pay otherwise i think they wouldve kicked my ass. i reluctantly pay it but at this time i'm fucking pissed off and tell the girl lets go back to my hotel. i guess i was still thinking i could get laid.
she starts acting up, saying she's too drunk to walk; saying she wants to sleep on the street and that i should stay with her. i said no, lets go back and she refuses causing a scene. finally i realized, that none of the events that happened this night were by chance. it was all staged. she was in on it from the beginning. she had orchestrated the entire set up. the first shady bar was to be the original target but since i passed she had to go to other options. the bar that we actually went to, she also was in on it. she pretended like she had no idea and offered to chip in was all a scam and to gain my trust. this led her to be able to get me to go into that last bar. she knew it was late and tried to squeeze as much out of me as she could. she knew by acting drunk it would get me to stay with her with the hopes of sex later and she knew that was her upper edge.
that moment of clarity hit me like a ton of bricks. all of a sudden i realized i was in fucking beijing and that the fact i was still unmarmed was pretty amazing. i've heard stories of tourists getting drugged, robbed, beaten, kidnapped and even the urban legends like getting your organs harvested. so, with most of my money gone, i took off and let this dirty, lying fucking twat lie in street where she pretended to have been passed out drunk. i'm sure as soon as i left she got up with no issues and went back to the 2 bars to collect her earnings.
i guess reflecting back i am happy that i wasnt hurt and i only loss about $1, 000usd. of course i felt fucking retarded afterwards but hey, lesson learned. i've been all throughout asia and have always been mindful of scams and smart enough to avoid them. this time, i definitely got it good.
readers- sorry for such a long post but i thought i should share this with all of you so you can avoid what i did. you guys probably think i was stupid as well but when we are fucked up, people do dumb shit. i have this girls pictures, email address and phone numbers if you are interested. you can always email me for this detail. don't let it happen to you!thanks to share the information. i am going to be off for beijing later this week. if you have must go / do, then let me know.
your report reminds me about a similar story even that is was not sooooo expensive. my advise, just file it as 'lesson learned'.
you won't change it anyway.
something similar happend to me in moscow. i picked up a girl from chesterfield bar, i guess the name has changed now. slender, almost skinny, what i like and took her to sheraton. she was hungry and i made the big mistake to let her order the dishes with room service in russian. guess what, caviar, king shrimp, etc. i do not want you to tell the total of the bill. doing' her was less than average, so actually a waste.
so remember guys, keep control about the situation and when it gets down do money, make sure you know about everything ahead how much it cost.
again, if you have a contact in bj, then i would appreciate to receive your pm.
happy hunting!
Asia Fullon
10-11-11, 07:29
On October 9th, I received a text message from one of my regulars at Roman Holiday in Yan Jiao that the place had been busted and perhaps shut down. Can anyone verify this to be true? Do we need to stay away from Roman Holiday for the time being?
On October 9th, I received a text message from one of my regulars at Roman Holiday in Yan Jiao that the place had been busted and perhaps shut down. Can anyone verify this to be true? Do we need to stay away from Roman Holiday for the time being?Yep it was on the English News Channel last night, seems only Roman Holiday was targeted, maybe they upset somebody?
Yanjiao is now unsafe territory it seems, what a pity? The battle is being lost. Mongering in Beijing is at it's worst.
To quote The Animals "We got to get outa this place"
Member #4144
10-11-11, 18:05
Yep it was on the English News Channel last night, seems only Roman Holiday was targeted, maybe they upset somebody?
Yanjiao is now unsafe territory it seems, what a pity? The battle is being lost. Mongering in Beijing is at it's worst.
To quote The Animals "We got to get outa this place"We still have Maggies and the out calls, so enjoy them while they last, especially for Maggies as it is more popular then ever.
Fillmore
We still have Maggies and the out calls, so enjoy them while they last, especially for Maggies as it is more popular then ever.
FillmoreGod I live that place! I've been back only a week and I'm already trying to plot another trip to Beijing!
I'm headed to BJ next month and doing some research.
Can I get pm'd kitty and other recommendations please.
First time hunting in BJ.
Thanks guys
Very nice recommendation! I had a great time with this girl last night. She's a very nice girl just like this report above had said, well worth the 600 kuai!
Write another report on the second nice boobs girl called Lin Lin I just had from the same provider, Kitty:
Ages: 22.
Looks: a very sunny girl, looks mature and voluptuous, long straight black hair.
Height: about 164 cms.
Boobs: 38D, I think.
Figure: a pretty nice figure, big breast but slim, nice curve.
Services: good service and GFE.
Price: 600 for ST, well worth!
I'm headed to BJ next month and doing some research.
Can I get pm'd kitty and other recommendations please.
First time hunting in BJ.
Thanks guysAngel has a new girl that I tried the other night, called Fang fang, Great long BBBJ and works her tiny little arse off. Tiny and petite, quite pretty. Definitely worth a try.
Angel contact can be found on her website. Kitty has been out of town for a couple of weeks, don't know how you guys are getting service from her, maybe just a repeat report?
Anywho, business will be brisk for them now I think with Yanjiao out of the picture.
Two nights ago (Oct. 11) I called Kitty and specifically asked for Lin Lin, after reading the posts on this board. She arrived within the hour. WOW, if you like the China Doll type, she is it, beautiful long black hair almost to her butt, cute and pretty face, always smiling, and fantastic body. The boobs are really 38D, and a porn-star body to go with them. I won't go into specifics but she did all the usual. She only does CBJ which is okay with me. Afterward, we lay in bed and chatted. I do speak broken Mandarin, enough to make conversation. She said she was from Sichuan and most Sichuanese girls are shorter but have big boobs. She said other girls had groped her to feel her breasts. Anyway, I hope she will be around the next time I visit Beijing.
Last night, I decided to try Angel since there were so many conflicting reports about her. I did not ask her for a specific girl, just NOT one with short or permed hair. For me, East Asian girls look better with long black hair. She sent Lulu, a tall 5'7" or 5'8" girl from Xi'an. She looked 30+ but she has a nice bubbly personality. Again, I had no complaints. She has a slim body, C breasts, and medium length hair very nicely done. Service was good and not rushed.
The damage for both nights was ¥600. I tipped each girl ¥50 for cab. Well worth it. If good sex is what you want, go with the reliable outcalls posted on this site. You don't have to sit and wait all night at Maggie's drinking 4-5 beers, then if you are lucky, you find a hot one, leave Maggie's, both smelling like ashtrays, spend money on taxi, and then pay ¥1000. But if you want to drink, smoke cigars, chat with girls, etc, then bars like Maggie's are for you. IMHO.
Matsui San
10-13-11, 00:46
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10-13-11, 12:32
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Yep it was on the English News Channel last night, seems only Roman Holiday was targeted, maybe they upset somebody?
Yanjiao is now unsafe territory it seems, what a pity? The battle is being lost. Mongering in Beijing is at it's worst.
To quote The Animals "We got to get outa this place"Yeah, the entire area is in a panic and also got informed the same by a girl I know working there. Quite a lot of people were hauled up that's for sure.
Two nights ago (Oct. 11) I called Kitty and specifically asked for Lin Lin, after reading the posts on this board. She arrived within the hour. WOW, if you like the China Doll type, she is it, beautiful long black hair almost to her butt, cute and pretty face, always smiling, and fantastic body. The boobs are really 38D, and a porn-star body to go with them. I won't go into specifics but she did all the usual. She only does CBJ which is okay with me. Afterward, we lay in bed and chatted. I do speak broken Mandarin, enough to make conversation. She said she was from Sichuan and most Sichuanese girls are shorter but have big boobs. She said other girls had groped her to feel her breasts. Anyway, I hope she will be around the next time I visit Beijing.
Last night, I decided to try Angel since there were so many conflicting reports about her. I did not ask her for a specific girl, just NOT one with short or permed hair. For me, East Asian girls look better with long black hair. She sent Lulu, a tall 5'7" or 5'8" girl from Xi'an. She looked 30+ but she has a nice bubbly personality. Again, I had no complaints. She has a slim body, C breasts, and medium length hair very nicely done. Service was good and not rushed.
The damage for both nights was ¥600. I tipped each girl ¥50 for cab. Well worth it. If good sex is what you want, go with the reliable outcalls posted on this site. You don't have to sit and wait all night at Maggie's drinking 4-5 beers, then if you are lucky, you find a hot one, leave Maggie's, both smelling like ashtrays, spend money on taxi, and then pay ¥1000. But if you want to drink, smoke cigars, chat with girls, etc, then bars like Maggie's are for you. IMHO.Thanks for the compliment. Glad that you had a great time with Lulu. She's actually in her mid 20s.
PolyDeuces
10-16-11, 18:50
I am doing a little 2 week trip in China and I wanted to try out the talent here. I confess I haven't really seen a lot of escorts back home (Canada). I've seen one girl, Karine, twice in the last 2 years in Ottawa, but I mainly use massage places (massage+HJ, or Russian sometimes) , so I'm not very experienced at this. I find the massage gives a good leadup and it's better to build the intimacy that way. Anyway please bear with me.
After reading the forums here, I took down the numbers of Kitty, Angels and Maria. I figure I'm in Beijing for 3 nights, I'll give each of them a call on one night. I don't speak much (almost none) Chinese unfortunately so I knew language was going to be a problem.
First night I called Kitty. I asked for a busty girl and I was told one was on the way. Got the call 30 minutes later, and I was already in the lobby. Kitty said she had yellow hair. Went outside to pick her up, and she was brunette. She said her name was Gu xi or something like that. Not your typical Chinese look (she almost looks Vietnamese or Thai) , but she was short, slim but not thin (I actually don't like my girls too thin) , cute and friendly, but a B-cup at most. She took my hand right away, which helped loosen things up, and we went upstairs. Things began slowly with caressing, kissing, etc. When she went down for the BJ, the cap came on immediately, and after 1 minute she wanted to start. She was already looking worried due to size issues. She started on top, which was good, then mish, then spooning position, finished in Russian (I think you call this Spanish here). Most of the time I couldn't get it all the way in because she's pretty small and kept screaming and tightening her hand on my arm whenever I tried to go deep. She actually refused to do doggy because she was worried about the size. 30 minutes in it was over. She had a shower, and I gave her a quick neck rub. Tipped her 50 extra for the good attitude. All in all it was an decent experience.
Looks: 6.
Attitude: 8.
Service: 6.
Tonight I called Angel and asked for a busty girl. She said I don't have anyone right now I'll call you back. She called 15 minutes later and said she had found someone who was sort of busty. So I said ok. 30 minutes later I get the call and go to the lobby and pick up MiMi. About 5'7, be-cup again, frizzy brown hair with highlights. It was awkward right away. She almost didn't speak at all, or make any physical contact and walked behind me all the way up to the room. We got in, she wanted the money upfront, which is ok. I wanted to do the same sort of lead up, with slow undressing, kissing, caressing. I tried, but she got this blank look in her eyes as she looked up at the ceiling. Dodged my kisses. I tried a neck rub, but after a minute of this she got up and got undressed and then pushed me onto my back and started to get my clothes off. I thought ok well might as well. She sucked my nipples for a minute (I actually don't like it and I don't understand why women do it, but what heck). CBJ for about 30 seconds, very lacklustre, she basically only got the head in a few times. Unlike the night before, she was able to handle the size, but it was all pretty mechanical and uninterested. Switched positions several times, but you could tell she wanted to get the hell out of there. When we tried cowgirl, she stopped after 30 seconds, said she couldn't handle it, not sure whether that was size issues or laziness. After 15 minutes I decided I wanted it to be over too, so I ended it. She jumped in to the shower for 5 minutes and dressed up and left. She was there for all of 25 minutes. To be honest I couldn't wait to have her out of there too.
Looks: 6.
Service: 4.
Attitude: 1.
So I've got this unsatisfied feeling now. Tomorrows the last night in Beijing (then on to Xian, Sh, HK, but I was only planning on going to 'spas' there) , so I'm not sure whether to go Maggie's or try escortchina. Blog. Com tomorrow night. Ideally I'd like to get someone for the night so I can get night and morning service.
Polydeuces
Loveasiangirls
10-17-11, 03:19
I am doing a little 2 week trip in China and I wanted to try out the talent here. I confess I haven't really seen a lot of escorts back home (Canada). I've seen one girl, Karine, twice in the last 2 years in Ottawa, but I mainly use massage places (massage+HJ, or Russian sometimes) , so I'm not very experienced at this. I find the massage gives a good leadup and it's better to build the intimacy that way. Anyway please bear with me.
After reading the forums here, I took down the numbers of Kitty, Angels and Maria. I figure I'm in Beijing for 3 nights, I'll give each of them a call on one night. I don't speak much (almost none) Chinese unfortunately so I knew language was going to be a problem.
First night I called Kitty. I asked for a busty girl and I was told one was on the way. Got the call 30 minutes later, and I was already in the lobby. Kitty said she had yellow hair. Went outside to pick her up, and she was brunette. She said her name was Gu xi or something like that. Not your typical Chinese look (she almost looks Vietnamese or Thai) , but she was short, slim but not thin (I actually don't like my girls too thin) , cute and friendly, but a B-cup at most. She took my hand right away, which helped loosen things up, and we went upstairs. Things began slowly with caressing, kissing, etc. When she went down for the BJ, the cap came on immediately, and after 1 minute she wanted to start. She was already looking worried due to size issues. She started on top, which was good, then mish, then spooning position, finished in Russian (I think you call this Spanish here). Most of the time I couldn't get it all the way in because she's pretty small and kept screaming and tightening her hand on my arm whenever I tried to go deep. She actually refused to do doggy because she was worried about the size. 30 minutes in it was over. She had a shower, and I gave her a quick neck rub. Tipped her 50 extra for the good attitude. All in all it was an decent experience.
Looks: 6.
Attitude: 8.
Service: 6.
Tonight I called Angel and asked for a busty girl. She said I don't have anyone right now I'll call you back. She called 15 minutes later and said she had found someone who was sort of busty. So I said ok. 30 minutes later I get the call and go to the lobby and pick up MiMi. About 5'7, be-cup again, frizzy brown hair with highlights. It was awkward right away. She almost didn't speak at all, or make any physical contact and walked behind me all the way up to the room. We got in, she wanted the money upfront, which is ok. I wanted to do the same sort of lead up, with slow undressing, kissing, caressing. I tried, but she got this blank look in her eyes as she looked up at the ceiling. Dodged my kisses. I tried a neck rub, but after a minute of this she got up and got undressed and then pushed me onto my back and started to get my clothes off. I thought ok well might as well. She sucked my nipples for a minute (I actually don't like it and I don't understand why women do it, but what heck). CBJ for about 30 seconds, very lacklustre, she basically only got the head in a few times. Unlike the night before, she was able to handle the size, but it was all pretty mechanical and uninterested. Switched positions several times, but you could tell she wanted to get the hell out of there. When we tried cowgirl, she stopped after 30 seconds, said she couldn't handle it, not sure whether that was size issues or laziness. After 15 minutes I decided I wanted it to be over too, so I ended it. She jumped in to the shower for 5 minutes and dressed up and left. She was there for all of 25 minutes. To be honest I couldn't wait to have her out of there too.
Looks: 6.
Service: 4.
Attitude: 1.
So I've got this unsatisfied feeling now. Tomorrows the last night in Beijing (then on to Xian, Sh, HK, but I was only planning on going to 'spas' there) , so I'm not sure whether to go Maggie's or try escortchina. Blog. Com tomorrow night. Ideally I'd like to get someone for the night so I can get night and morning service.
PolydeucesI have done mostly freebies in China and it is interesting to note that even though they may comment that I am big, they never complain about it. On the other hand, WG (whose p*why sees a lot of action) will say I am too big and complain and use this excuse to end the session. It is really just BS as far as I am concerned. And, I don't think I am that big in any case.
Inspiration
10-17-11, 06:09
Yeah, the entire area is in a panic and also got informed the same by a girl I know working there. Quite a lot of people were hauled up that's for sure.Stoped there on Sunday around 2 pm. Policman in front of the building, doors sealed. Does anybody know what's going on there? They'll re-open again? Where are all the girls now? Maybe you're in contact with one of them. Suppose there's another place nearby. If so, it'd be great to get some information.
Is there also something like Roman Hotel in direction to Changping?
Gualtier Malde
10-17-11, 08:46
I am doing a little 2 week trip in China and I wanted to try out the talent here. I confess I haven't really seen a lot of escorts back home (Canada). I've seen one girl, Karine, twice in the last 2 years in Ottawa, but I mainly use massage places (massage+HJ, or Russian sometimes) , so I'm not very experienced at this. I find the massage gives a good leadup and it's better to build the intimacy that way. Anyway please bear with me.
After reading the forums here, I took down the numbers of Kitty, Angels and Maria. I figure I'm in Beijing for 3 nights, I'll give each of them a call on one night. I don't speak much (almost none) Chinese unfortunately so I knew language was going to be a problem.
First night I called Kitty. I asked for a busty girl and I was told one was on the way. Got the call 30 minutes later, and I was already in the lobby. Kitty said she had yellow hair. Went outside to pick her up, and she was brunette. She said her name was Gu xi or something like that. Not your typical Chinese look (she almost looks Vietnamese or Thai) , but she was short, slim but not thin (I actually don't like my girls too thin) , cute and friendly, but a B-cup at most. She took my hand right away, which helped loosen things up, and we went upstairs. Things began slowly with caressing, kissing, etc. When she went down for the BJ, the cap came on immediately, and after 1 minute she wanted to start. She was already looking worried due to size issues. She started on top, which was good, then mish, then spooning position, finished in Russian (I think you call this Spanish here). Most of the time I couldn't get it all the way in because she's pretty small and kept screaming and tightening her hand on my arm whenever I tried to go deep. She actually refused to do doggy because she was worried about the size. 30 minutes in it was over. She had a shower, and I gave her a quick neck rub. Tipped her 50 extra for the good attitude. All in all it was an decent experience.
Looks: 6.
Attitude: 8.
Service: 6.
Tonight I called Angel and asked for a busty girl. She said I don't have anyone right now I'll call you back. She called 15 minutes later and said she had found someone who was sort of busty. So I said ok. 30 minutes later I get the call and go to the lobby and pick up MiMi. About 5'7, be-cup again, frizzy brown hair with highlights. It was awkward right away. She almost didn't speak at all, or make any physical contact and walked behind me all the way up to the room. We got in, she wanted the money upfront, which is ok. I wanted to do the same sort of lead up, with slow undressing, kissing, caressing. I tried, but she got this blank look in her eyes as she looked up at the ceiling. Dodged my kisses. I tried a neck rub, but after a minute of this she got up and got undressed and then pushed me onto my back and started to get my clothes off. I thought ok well might as well. She sucked my nipples for a minute (I actually don't like it and I don't understand why women do it, but what heck). CBJ for about 30 seconds, very lacklustre, she basically only got the head in a few times. Unlike the night before, she was able to handle the size, but it was all pretty mechanical and uninterested. Switched positions several times, but you could tell she wanted to get the hell out of there. When we tried cowgirl, she stopped after 30 seconds, said she couldn't handle it, not sure whether that was size issues or laziness. After 15 minutes I decided I wanted it to be over too, so I ended it. She jumped in to the shower for 5 minutes and dressed up and left. She was there for all of 25 minutes. To be honest I couldn't wait to have her out of there too.
Looks: 6.
Service: 4.
Attitude: 1.
So I've got this unsatisfied feeling now. Tomorrows the last night in Beijing (then on to Xian, Sh, HK, but I was only planning on going to 'spas' there) , so I'm not sure whether to go Maggie's or try escortchina. Blog. Com tomorrow night. Ideally I'd like to get someone for the night so I can get night and morning service.
PolydeucesI still maintain that if you refuse their demand for up front pay, you will get better service. (You can sweeten their loss by suggesting that you might tip extra if they perform exceptionally well, but no money until the end.) Also, if a girl doesn't perform fully to your satisfaction, you should be able to call the service and complain, pay the taxi for the girl (as the service usually requests) , and get another one sent. This is China, you have to stand your ground or they will always take full advantage of your willingness to give in.
GM
Stoped there on Sunday around 2 pm. Policman in front of the building, doors sealed. Does anybody know what's going on there? They'll re-open again? Where are all the girls now? Maybe you're in contact with one of them. Suppose there's another place nearby. If so, it'd be great to get some information.
Is there also something like Roman Hotel in direction to Changping?Read the f*king forum.
Do your research!
Use the "search" facility at this, and other useful, sites!
Just my experience.
P13
Was in Beijing and needed to unwind (or is it workout?) after a long flight.
Having seen quite rave review of Kitty, called her and asked for someone young, cheerful, tall with good assets. I don't speak any Mandarin but it was easy as Kitty spoke basic English and to the point (and seems to quite busy with phones ringing in background) Waited for 45 minutes and all this time wondering who would turn up and how to turn her back if not good etc etc. I hate to keep very high hopes and be disappointed. I was pleasantly surprised to see a young full of energy beaming girl at my door. Way way beyond what I was expecting. She was 20 yr young Yao Li standing 165cm, clear skin. 36C naturals, smelling nice, and smiling giggling away. Great gal with FANTASTIC ATTITUDE. Kitty will have me as repeat customer for sure on my next visit.
Kazaam1234
10-18-11, 21:10
Hello, I am going to Beijing next week. Can you please msg me Kitty's number? Also, how much does it cost for ST / LT?
Thanks
Was in Beijing and needed to unwind (or is it workout?) after a long flight.
Having seen quite rave review of Kitty, called her and asked for someone young, cheerful, tall with good assets. I don't speak any Mandarin but it was easy as Kitty spoke basic English and to the point (and seems to quite busy with phones ringing in background) Waited for 45 minutes and all this time wondering who would turn up and how to turn her back if not good etc etc. I hate to keep very high hopes and be disappointed. I was pleasantly surprised to see a young full of energy beaming girl at my door. Way way beyond what I was expecting. She was 20 yr young Yao Li standing 165cm, clear skin. 36C naturals, smelling nice, and smiling giggling away. Great gal with FANTASTIC ATTITUDE. Kitty will have me as repeat customer for sure on my next visit.
Giovanni28
10-19-11, 15:30
Hello, I am going to Beijing next week. Can you please msg me Kitty's number? Also, how much does it cost for ST / LT?
ThanksGo to classified ads and you have the numbers. Good luck!
Tried to PM you the number but not going through. Are you a member? If not, please go ahead and make that investment.
ST: RMB600 incl taxi.
LT: RMB1300 incl taxi.
Tip as you like.
Pic attached.
Hello, I am going to Beijing next week. Can you please msg me Kitty's number? Also, how much does it cost for ST / LT?
Thanks
Kazaam1234
10-19-11, 22:15
I just subscribed. I hope Kitty's girl was worth it.
Can you also suggest a Girl friendly hotel near OL stadium? Thanks.
Tried to PM you the number but not going through. Are you a member? If not, please go ahead and make that investment.
ST: RMB600 incl taxi.
LT: RMB1300 incl taxi.
Tip as you like.
Pic attached.
El Frances
10-20-11, 13:08
I still maintain that if you refuse their demand for up front pay, you will get better service. (You can sweeten their loss by suggesting that you might tip extra if they perform exceptionally well, but no money until the end.) Also, if a girl doesn't perform fully to your satisfaction, you should be able to call the service and complain, pay the taxi for the girl (as the service usually requests) , and get another one sent. This is China, you have to stand your ground or they will always take full advantage of your willingness to give in.
GMI second that. Never pay upfront.
My experience has been often that girls asking to be paid upfront don't provide good service (that's why they want to be paid upfront) , even if you don' pay them upfront. But if you don't pay upfront, you can hope to get at least an acceptable service
El Frances
10-20-11, 13:14
Maybe I am oversuspicious, but these all these guys with only a few posts answering each other about kitty.
Maybe I am oversuspicious, but these all these guys with only a few posts answering each other about kitty.You are absolutely not being oversuspicious.
There is another outcall provider. Whom we will leave un-named since she has seemingly stopped the blatant fake reports and decided to post in the classifieds where she is supposed to. Who ruined this board for a long time.
Read back six months. It was ridiculous.
Member #4144
10-20-11, 20:00
You are absolutely not being oversuspicious.
There is another outcall provider. Whom we will leave un-named since she has seemingly stopped the blatant fake reports and decided to post in the classifieds where she is supposed to. Who ruined this board for a long time.
Read back six months. It was ridiculous.Come on, don't start this please.
Maybe I am being really naive, but I see Rock Me had posts from 2009 on other subjects?
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This BJ board had been really quiet lately anyway, so if you have something useful to contriubute, out-call or otherwise, please do something to make this board more active?
Fillmore
ChinaReise2012
10-21-11, 02:42
Hi guys,
When you are in Beijing I know a very nice place which is 2-3 hrs with the shuttle bus from Beijing.
It's a city in Hebei province. I'm exchange student from Germany.
I'm fluent in english / Chinese.
I get you there for a small tip but we're primarily buddies so it's more fun.
I have attached pictures from the hotel. It's awesome.
Sauna, pool, restaurant (you can get a meal for like 30yuan / 3eur).
All this stuff was refurnished last year. I'm the only foreigner who knows this place.
I've never been to Thailand these places but I have the feeling this place is Nr. 1.
Have a look at the pictures and contact me before I return home next year in summer.
Entrance: 20Yuan / 2euro.
Service: 40 Minutes is 149Yuan / 15euro, I talk to the people for you and you get this awesome price as well. I'm fed up with Chinese cheating on Westeners.
Cute young girls aged 21-27. It's heaven.
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Bad Boy Billy
10-21-11, 05:09
Guys will be in town Nov 1, 2.3 and 4. Who is around town at that time?
Can't wait to get to Maggies to see all those 'old and fat' Mongols that have been spotted there over recent months.
Seekingals
10-21-11, 07:05
I still maintain that if you refuse their demand for up front pay, you will get better service. (You can sweeten their loss by suggesting that you might tip extra if they perform exceptionally well, but no money until the end.) Also, if a girl doesn't perform fully to your satisfaction, you should be able to call the service and complain, pay the taxi for the girl (as the service usually requests) , and get another one sent. This is China, you have to stand your ground or they will always take full advantage of your willingness to give in.
GMYep, never pay upfront.
Usually those girls asking to be paid upfront will not provide good service.
That's why they insist to be paid upfront.
It's my conclusion from dozens of experiences of my own.
Seekingals.
I second that. Never pay upfront.
My experience has been often that girls asking to be paid upfront don't provide good service (that's why they want to be paid upfront) , even if you don' pay them upfront. But if you don't pay upfront, you can hope to get at least an acceptable serviceTotally agree with you. You're really an experienced guy.
Seekingals
I would be interested in getting the contact for Kitty as I am up in Beijing again next week. I'll follow up with a report on service.
I don't know the reason behind this report or why they want to damage my reputation. I have never heard of anyone called Mimi. I can guarantee that the service my girls provide is nothing like as bad as written here.
Also, if anyone is unsatisfied with the service, they can call me directly, I'll settle it fairly.
Thanks
I am doing a little 2 week trip in China and I wanted to try out the talent here. I confess I haven't really seen a lot of escorts back home (Canada). I've seen one girl, Karine, twice in the last 2 years in Ottawa, but I mainly use massage places (massage+HJ, or Russian sometimes) , so I'm not very experienced at this. I find the massage gives a good leadup and it's better to build the intimacy that way. Anyway please bear with me.
After reading the forums here, I took down the numbers of Kitty, Angels and Maria. I figure I'm in Beijing for 3 nights, I'll give each of them a call on one night. I don't speak much (almost none) Chinese unfortunately so I knew language was going to be a problem.
First night I called Kitty. I asked for a busty girl and I was told one was on the way. Got the call 30 minutes later, and I was already in the lobby. Kitty said she had yellow hair. Went outside to pick her up, and she was brunette. She said her name was Gu xi or something like that. Not your typical Chinese look (she almost looks Vietnamese or Thai) , but she was short, slim but not thin (I actually don't like my girls too thin) , cute and friendly, but a B-cup at most. She took my hand right away, which helped loosen things up, and we went upstairs. Things began slowly with caressing, kissing, etc. When she went down for the BJ, the cap came on immediately, and after 1 minute she wanted to start. She was already looking worried due to size issues. She started on top, which was good, then mish, then spooning position, finished in Russian (I think you call this Spanish here). Most of the time I couldn't get it all the way in because she's pretty small and kept screaming and tightening her hand on my arm whenever I tried to go deep. She actually refused to do doggy because she was worried about the size. 30 minutes in it was over. She had a shower, and I gave her a quick neck rub. Tipped her 50 extra for the good attitude. All in all it was an decent experience.
Looks: 6.
Attitude: 8.
Service: 6.
Tonight I called Angel and asked for a busty girl. She said I don't have anyone right now I'll call you back. She called 15 minutes later and said she had found someone who was sort of busty. So I said ok. 30 minutes later I get the call and go to the lobby and pick up MiMi. About 5'7, be-cup again, frizzy brown hair with highlights. It was awkward right away. She almost didn't speak at all, or make any physical contact and walked behind me all the way up to the room. We got in, she wanted the money upfront, which is ok. I wanted to do the same sort of lead up, with slow undressing, kissing, caressing. I tried, but she got this blank look in her eyes as she looked up at the ceiling. Dodged my kisses. I tried a neck rub, but after a minute of this she got up and got undressed and then pushed me onto my back and started to get my clothes off. I thought ok well might as well. She sucked my nipples for a minute (I actually don't like it and I don't understand why women do it, but what heck). CBJ for about 30 seconds, very lacklustre, she basically only got the head in a few times. Unlike the night before, she was able to handle the size, but it was all pretty mechanical and uninterested. Switched positions several times, but you could tell she wanted to get the hell out of there. When we tried cowgirl, she stopped after 30 seconds, said she couldn't handle it, not sure whether that was size issues or laziness. After 15 minutes I decided I wanted it to be over too, so I ended it. She jumped in to the shower for 5 minutes and dressed up and left. She was there for all of 25 minutes. To be honest I couldn't wait to have her out of there too.
Looks: 6.
Service: 4.
Attitude: 1.
So I've got this unsatisfied feeling now. Tomorrows the last night in Beijing (then on to Xian, Sh, HK, but I was only planning on going to 'spas' there) , so I'm not sure whether to go Maggie's or try escortchina. Blog. Com tomorrow night. Ideally I'd like to get someone for the night so I can get night and morning service.
Polydeuces
Hi,
Would be interested. Please send details per private mail of this forum as I don't want the same happening as in Yanjiao.
Hi guys,
When you are in Beijing I know a very nice place which is 2-3 hrs with the shuttle bus from Beijing.
It's a city in Hebei province. I'm exchange student from Germany.
I'm fluent in english / Chinese.
I get you there for a small tip but we're primarily buddies so it's more fun.
I have attached pictures from the hotel. It's awesome.
Sauna, pool, restaurant (you can get a meal for like 30yuan / 3eur).
All this stuff was refurnished last year. I'm the only foreigner who knows this place.
I've never been to Thailand these places but I have the feeling this place is Nr. 1.
Have a look at the pictures and contact me before I return home next year in summer.
Entrance: 20Yuan / 2euro.
Service: 40 Minutes is 149Yuan / 15euro, I talk to the people for you and you get this awesome price as well. I'm fed up with Chinese cheating on Westeners.
Cute young girls aged 21-27. It's heaven.
E-Mail: [Email address deleted by Admin]
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Come on, don't start this please.
Maybe I am being really naive, but I see Rock Me had posts from 2009 on other subjects?
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This BJ board had been really quiet lately anyway, so if you have something useful to contriubute, out-call or otherwise, please do something to make this board more active?
FillmoreI'm not trying to start this again. I'm hoping to prevent it.
I spent a ridiculous amount of time before my last trip weeding through all the BS reports.
Newbies need to know that it happens so that the fakers don't get comfortable starting.
That crap up again. If we let our guard down it'll creep in and eventually take over.
Honest outcall reports are welcome. First time posters congratulating each other on the.
Great outcall find need to be scrutinized because the likely hood of integrity is very low.
Jude Bright
10-22-11, 02:00
Just before I return to the states, I went to the place which has been described in Andingmennei. Easy to find. I went there at tbout 1 pm after I had lunch with my friend. As usual, take a shower, went upstairs for a rest. At about 2:30, I asked for service. A tech come in and call another tech (#8) who screening me for about 5 minutes with questions such as ahve you been here before, when? Who was the tech? What she looks like? Etc.
Then she offered me three choices for 400, 600, and 800. I choossed the most expensive one and she gave me a nice BBBJ, with ice and fire, I came in about 30 miuntes. The service is mechnical, but, it is nice close my home and I do not have to go to outside of the Beijing for the similar services.
Jb
Seekingals
10-22-11, 07:47
I would be interested in getting the contact for Kitty as I am up in Beijing again next week. I'll follow up with a report on service.See my #399 post on 'Classified Ads' thread under 'China' Forum please.
Besides Kitty, you'll get some other reliable out-calls as well in this post.
To be honest, I had a great time with Kitty's talents a few weeks ago.
Hope to see your honest reports on these out-calls.
Seekingals
And I also visited that beautiful Dongbei girl in the hutong near Andingmen. Beautiful soft boobs, flat belly, a super body!
First time I first got offered FS for 500 by the boy at the entrance, but she was having her period so I turned out having a nice HE massage including access to her boobs for 300.
Some days later she was clean and offered met three options: 600, 900 and 1200.
I chose 900: FS with cat bath, BBBJ, fire and ice. Was good, but these features together only lasted a few minutes.
After that I had a great time enjoying her. She is nice and even though my Chinese is very limited we had a small chat. And did I mention that body. One of the most beautiful I ever had. It's indeed a bit mechanical but she is a nice person.
I would certainly visit her again, but would take the 500/600 option as the extras for 900 were not worth it IMO. And I would check about the strange differences in pricing (see also earlier reports).
I'm not trying to start this again. I'm hoping to prevent it.
I spent a ridiculous amount of time before my last trip weeding through all the BS reports.
Newbies need to know that it happens so that the fakers don't get comfortable starting.
That crap up again. If we let our guard down it'll creep in and eventually take over.
Honest outcall reports are welcome. First time posters congratulating each other on the.
Great outcall find need to be scrutinized because the likely hood of integrity is very low.I have been going to Beijing since 1995 and I have pretty much seen it all. All these reports are all the same (pretty girl, good service). I would guess 95% fake. Over the years I have tried these same services and the only thing true about them is that you get a young girl, sometimes pretty, most will not kiss, none are GFE, most give a crappy BJ if they will even try, and service is mechanical with no emotion. Sometimes you will get a few fake moans but overall it is not an enjoyable experience for me. If you just want to get your rocks off it probably is ok. I am sure there are a few good ones in the mix but I have not experienced any of them in 16 years. I occasionally try them periodically and it is the same every time.
These services have been around a long time and they need an outet like this to advertise as they do not get many repeat customers. But because of these posts they suck in all the new guys. Be smart guys!
Dillonb1950
10-23-11, 04:22
I've been to Beijing 9 times in the last few years. I have read posts on here from time to time and decided I would join. I'm a bit disappointed in what I read and the price people are paying and where they go to get it. There are terrific spots BBS's and small massage places ALL over Beijing in every corner from the 1st RR to the small villages on the outside. If you have the time you need to check out the sidestreets and places a Laowai would normally not go. I've never had a problem and I've found some terrific women for as low as 100 yuan to freebies. I picked up a woman from Tianjin at the Silkmarket for christ sake and I'm 61 fkn years old. Lolol. Cost me a hotel and a meal for some pretty nice 40ish cougar. On my last vist I took the subway to Changchungjia. Exit B. Walked two blocks straight back from exit B tuirned right. Went down the street past some hotel to a BBS on the corner. Well. I found two of the cutest 20ish year old women I ever seen. Beautuful bodies. Both. 2oo freakin yuan for FS. They wanted 600 but accepted 200. I couldn't do them both but came back for the other one a week later. AWESOME. In my searches I like to go on the subway. Pick a community and then get off the subway and go exploring. All day. I take my time and wander in and out of the sidestreets and usually find something. I've had a few duds but many many times I've found some hot girls who are willing to barter. No hurry either during the day it seems. You have to take your time and barter hard. All they can do is say no. And then when you say adios they usually say ok. I'd never pay 600 let alone 1, 000 and some even 1500 for a girl when I know if I search a bit I can get 3 for 600. I guess it depends what you want and how much time you have. The quality is as good as any I've seen in the bars too including Maggies. You have to search. Ill be back again in the summertime.
Love Beijing.
PolyDeuces
10-23-11, 05:05
For my third night in Beijing I went to Maggie's. I tried calling Kitty to ask for Lin Lin but she was unavailable. So with the time being pretty late I decided Maggie's was my best option, plus I really wanted to see the bar. The band was really good and I wanted to dance. It was nearly 2am and there were a lot of ladies there. I could definitely see the difference between the Mongolians and the Chinese. There were a couple of Russians but nothing to write home about. Since I like them big uptop and don't mind a bit of extra weight I had my eye on a tallish, not-thin girl in a black dress. After getting a couple of beers she noticed me and came and sat down. I got her a drink called Mongolian something or other. I was a bit anxious about approaching the ladies because I didn't want to get stuck talking or drinking with someone for an hour that I had no intention of taking back. Plus it was 2am already so I figured I'd better make sure I only talked to who I wanted to take home. Anyway she sat there, and I immediately got friendly. She didn't really want to dance (I thought she didn't like dancing, but later I figured she must have been pretty tired). So we left pretty quickly in a taxi back to the Lido, where I was staying. She said her name was Sissy, but I guess it could have been Ci Ci. Mongolian obviously. She asked for 1500 for overnight, and I countered with 800 and she said yes right away. The service was ok. She was a bit chubbier than I expected (she was wearing a corset under the dress). I think she was really tired and wanted to put as little effort in as possible so no cowgirl, barely any BBBJ. After it was over she rolled over and went to sleep right away. That was ok with me as it was 4:30 now and I'd only gotten 4 hours of sleep the night before. At 8 I had to get up to talk to the concierge about a train ticket. Couldn't get back to sleep after. So now I was only on 7 hours of sleep in 2 days. Was too tired during round 2 and lost it halfway through. She didn't seem interested in providing BBBJ, and I didn't want to demand it. So we cuddled and she left around 10.
Re: Angel, I will let the other posters decide whether I am 'fake' or not.
Polydeuces
Dillonb1950
10-23-11, 16:37
I haven't found a good place near there. Anyone have any leads?
Gualtier Malde
10-24-11, 05:32
I've been to Beijing 9 times in the last few years. I have read posts on here from time to time and decided I would join. I'm a bit disappointed in what I read and the price people are paying and where they go to get it. There are terrific spots BBS's and small massage places ALL over Beijing in every corner from the 1st RR to the small villages on the outside. If you have the time you need to check out the sidestreets and places a Laowai would normally not go. I've never had a problem and I've found some terrific women for as low as 100 yuan to freebies. I picked up a woman from Tianjin at the Silkmarket for christ sake and I'm 61 fkn years old. Lolol. Cost me a hotel and a meal for some pretty nice 40ish cougar. On my last vist I took the subway to Changchungjia. Exit B. Walked two blocks straight back from exit B tuirned right. Went down the street past some hotel to a BBS on the corner. Well. I found two of the cutest 20ish year old women I ever seen. Beautuful bodies. Both. 2oo freakin yuan for FS. They wanted 600 but accepted 200. I couldn't do them both but came back for the other one a week later. AWESOME. In my searches I like to go on the subway. Pick a community and then get off the subway and go exploring. All day. I take my time and wander in and out of the sidestreets and usually find something. I've had a few duds but many many times I've found some hot girls who are willing to barter. No hurry either during the day it seems. You have to take your time and barter hard. All they can do is say no. And then when you say adios they usually say ok. I'd never pay 600 let alone 1, 000 and some even 1500 for a girl when I know if I search a bit I can get 3 for 600. I guess it depends what you want and how much time you have. The quality is as good as any I've seen in the bars too including Maggies. You have to search. Ill be back again in the summertime.
Love Beijing.This poster is absolutely correct. If you can invest the time, there are great (and cheap) adventures to be had in Beijing. Do your homework, be patient, be tolerant of the conditions of the establishment, don't be a jerk, and don't follow touts, ever.
Welcome to the board, Dillonb1950!
GM
Member #4144
10-24-11, 15:10
This poster is absolutely correct. If you can invest the time, there are great (and cheap) adventures to be had in Beijing. Do your homework, be patient, be tolerant of the conditions of the establishment, don't be a jerk, and don't follow touts, ever.
Welcome to the board, Dillonb1950!
GMSome people have more time and some people have more money, so be happy everybody.
Fillmore
Bad Boy Billy
10-24-11, 21:48
She said her name was Sissy, but I guess it could have been Ci Ci. Mongolian obviously. She was a bit chubbier than I expectedAh the infamous CiCi. She is actually Chinese. Can be seen almost evey night at The Den standing at the corner of the bar. And YES a tad on the chubby side. Haven't had her but have heard good reviews. 800 is her standatd price LT.
This is not an infomercial or advertisement. Just one guy's experience. After a long stay in the US I made it back to Beijing yesterday, just in time to enjoy the Halloween celebrations at Maggie's. The place was packed and the crowd decked out in their finest costumes enjoyed the music and reverie. What was surprising was the cost of.
Goods and unrealizable expectations. More than a few were asking 1500 ST and 2500. 3500 LT. Talk about inflation. No wonder that by 3 am most were sitting in their corners drinking themselves into oblivion alone (and not understanding why). Tonight during a business dinner, I decided that instead of braving the smoke, noise and
Attitude I would take a wild chance and try one of the services recently discussed. I sent an sms to Kitty with specific requests and within minutes received a confirmation. An hour later, a young lady arrived who did not disappoint. 22, long black hair, slender. 34B (all real) .165 cm, good attitude. Just what I asked for. For 600 + 100 tip it made for a very enjoyable hour +. Once again, this is just my experience, but I am no longer a skeptic.
This is not an infomercial or advertisement. Just one guy's experience. After a long stay in the US I made it back to Beijing yesterday, just in time to enjoy the Halloween celebrations at Maggie's. The place was packed and the crowd decked out in their finest costumes enjoyed the music and reverie. What was surprising was the cost of.
Goods and unrealizable expectations. More than a few were asking 1500 ST and 2500. 3500 LT. Talk about inflation. No wonder that by 3 am most were sitting in their corners drinking themselves into oblivion alone (and not understanding why). Tonight during a business dinner, I decided that instead of braving the smoke, noise and
Attitude I would take a wild chance and try one of the services recently discussed. I sent an sms to Kitty with specific requests and within minutes received a confirmation. An hour later, a young lady arrived who did not disappoint. 22, long black hair, slender. 34B (all real).165 cm, good attitude. Just what I asked for. For 600 + 100 tip it made for a very enjoyable hour +. Once again, this is just my experience, but I am no longer a skeptic.Before someone jumps on Teddy T and accuses him of being a tout, I can personally vouch for him. While he has not had many posts, he is a regular traveler to Beijing, and a solid individual. I may actually give Kitty a chance now, as he is the first person I have personally known to have tried her service.
Sammy
Ah the infamous CiCi. She is actually Chinese. Can be seen almost evey night at The Den standing at the corner of the bar. And YES a tad on the chubby side. Haven't had her but have heard good reviews. 800 is her standatd price LT.Assuming we are talking about the same Sissy / Ci Ci (ie, more than just a "tad" on the chubby side; when she takes her gear off it all hangs out, shall we say) , I'd be prepared to bet she's what she says she is, Mongolian. I've heard her speak Chinese; it sure didn't sound like any native speaker of Chinese I've ever heard, even one from a far-flung province. As it happens, I spent the night with her at the apartment she was camping out in (we slept on the floor). She had textbooks for learning Chinese there, so I guess she takes Chinese classes. Her Chinese is OK for a Mongolian girl (most of them speak it really badly) , but it's got that strong Mongolian accent and flat tones. Anyway, I was a bit disappointed with the evening's activities. We didn't really hit it off. So I've never taken her again. I occasionally buy her a drink when I see her at Maggies; I think she's completely forgotten that she ever spent the night with me (I guess I'm not that memorable).
SammyDude. Had not heard from you for a while. I thought you migrated to Eastern Europe with BBB. Too bad I am out of chance to visit Beijing again.
Chris Wang
11-04-11, 16:34
This dude is insincere.
I got tricked in paying in advance.
I know that is my bad. But the girls service was poor. Constantly asked for tips for everything. Really bad experience.
If anybody got some good contacts. Please pm me.
I'll be in Beijing until the ninth.
Hi all,
I'm back to Beijing, but company located me in Zhongguancun (Haidian district) , where there seem to be no action (I searched the forum!).
Anybody can recommend a good place for a HE massage or a fuck at home (not sure Mary or Kitty or. Can send girls here).
Regards,
Guits
Dillonb1950
11-05-11, 06:57
I have been going to Beijing since 1995 and I have pretty much seen it all. All these reports are all the same (pretty girl, good service). I would guess 95% fake. Over the years I have tried these same services and the only thing true about them is that you get a young girl, sometimes pretty, most will not kiss, none are GFE, most give a crappy BJ if they will even try, and service is mechanical with no emotion. Sometimes you will get a few fake moans but overall it is not an enjoyable experience for me. If you just want to get your rocks off it probably is ok. I am sure there are a few good ones in the mix but I have not experienced any of them in 16 years. I occasionally try them periodically and it is the same every time.
These services have been around a long time and they need an outet like this to advertise as they do not get many repeat customers. But because of these posts they suck in all the new guys. Be smart guys!You must really be looking in the wrong places. On one of my first excursions I was close to Tsinghua University and came across this small massage place, I got this little cute 95 lbs gal with the perkiest little tits I've evr seen. I rocked her for quite a while, wasnt hurried and it was 200 yuan. I came back to her 3 times. By the last time she was offering her little ass to me and she was definetly huffin and a puffin. She came really hard and thenlay on her back smiling and waving her finger from side to side as if to say. This shouldn't have happened. Too much pleasure. LOL. I came back to Canada and when I went bak the following summer the place was turned into some little grocery store. Damn. She was fun. I will keep posting once in a while. I have tons of stories. Mostly good. Keep hunting. I don't know what it is but you get a feel of where to look after a while. I am not sure what you mean by because of the new posters. Mine aint fake buddy. When I'm back in Beijing I / ll get ya lined up if your there. Ill even make you a deal. If you don't give it over a 7 out of ten. I'll pay half. LOL
El Frances
11-05-11, 09:35
This is not an infomercial or advertisement. Just one guy's experience. After a long stay in the US I made it back to Beijing yesterday, just in time to enjoy the Halloween celebrations at Maggie's. The place was packed and the crowd decked out in their finest costumes enjoyed the music and reverie. What was surprising was the cost of.
Goods and unrealizable expectations. More than a few were asking 1500 ST and 2500. 3500 LT. Talk about inflation. No wonder that by 3 am most were sitting in their corners drinking themselves into oblivion alone (and not understanding why.I've been to maggies during this period. It was very nice, fun and friendly and worth spending time there. I did not even ask the price because of the low quality of most girls: not young, strong body (if not fat). Only two or three acceptable girls who were already busy. I saw one stunner always standing alone near the cloakroom. I would gladly have fucked her but she seemed to be a starfish so I did not approach her. After discussing with other customers at the hotdog stall, I guess I am not the only one to go to maggies for fun and go back home to call a service provider for a better price / quality ratio.
I used lili's and maria's service as usual for 600 st tip and taxi included. Quality was average for my taste (I find it very difficult to have them understand that not all laoweis like big tits) , girls were young, service ranged from average to very good (one memorable BJ).
Transmuter
11-05-11, 15:13
Whoever you are: It's been fun to watch you working the bar; especially the dark haired (almost bald though) guy working to the south.
Nice idea and makes me think about giving up doing the things on my own.
T
One Eyed Man
11-06-11, 06:11
Echoing what Teddy T said, I met this nice Mongolian at M's: pretty, but not stunning, English not that great. She was a little flirtatious, so I thought she liked me.
I offered her 1K for a couple of hours, and she came back with 1500. I made a hand motion meaning, can you go lower, and made a counteroffer of 1200, but she wouldn't budge, so I cut her loose.
Many of the most senior members insist that 1000 LT is possible. How do you do it? Is this with the least attractive ladies who are there every night, is this a 3 a.m price, or do you have Brad Pitt's good looks? How do you do it?
There is one young, tall Mongolian with a pretty face and a smoking body that I might splurge on one of these days, though.
While I'm on a rant, it seems that almost all the Mongolian girls smoke. I hate that, and it's pretty much a dealbreaker for me. I have to search long and hard to find any girls that don't smoke. Is this a Mongolian thing? Don't they realize that it turns off some potential customers?
Quick report about a bbs near andingmennei. It's at the north end of bei luo guxiang, north of that more popular south luoguxiang with the tourists. So it's not exactly hidden, the girls inside said foreigners go quite often. They looked very fit in heels and low tops when I walked past, but less good when I actually went in (always the way). There was a young busty and disinterested looking one and an older, less attractive but interested looking one (plus the mamasan). I chose the less attractive one because I find attitude normally trumps looks in situations like these. It's a fairly standard bbs arrangement. I insisted on massage intitially, but eventually gave in. I got a low price because I can speak Chinese and was playing hard to get, without Chinese they'll be looking for 500 plus (which is too high, should definitely get it lower than that). No BJ or BBBJ. The girl (about 35 years old probably) had a good attitude and enjoyed getting reamed, so I think I chose the right one. They even asked afterwards if I wanted to sit with them and have a drink of hot water, which was nice. Things like that make me think I'll be going back, even if the overall quality of the girls is not amazing. Its bbs in Beijing, after all.
Member #4144
11-06-11, 08:40
Echoing what Teddy T said, I met this nice Mongolian at M's: pretty, but not stunning, English not that great. She was a little flirtatious, so I thought she liked me.
I offered her 1K for a couple of hours, and she came back with 1500. I made a hand motion meaning, can you go lower, and made a counteroffer of 1200, but she wouldn't budge, so I cut her loose.
Many of the most senior members insist that 1000 LT is possible. How do you do it? Is this with the least attractive ladies who are there every night, is this a 3 a. M price, or do you have Brad Pitt's good looks? How do you do it?
There is one young, tall Mongolian with a pretty face and a smoking body that I might splurge on one of these days, though.
While I'm on a rant, it seems that almost all the Mongolian girls smoke. I hate that, and it's pretty much a dealbreaker for me. I have to search long and hard to find any girls that don't smoke. Is this a Mongolian thing? Don't they realize that it turns off some potential customers?I echo what El Frances said in the post before you, M's is a place for fun, mostly with the tagged Chinese girls, or just go there to watch and have drinks. The WGs (Mongolian) there are mostly fat and old worth 300 but asking for 11000-1500. If you are lucky to run into a stunner, sure, but I have never seen ANY, so I go there and love it as there a few tagged girls there are smoking hot.
Fillmore
Any updates on that joint? Still even alive? Off the radar for a while.
Hello!
Please would you have the numbers of those girls providers?
Thanks a lot!
Sad to hear that!
Things like this happen all the time in China actually.
So if you are new to Beijing or don't know Beijing well,
You'd better follow the recommendations / suggestions / advices
Given by nice guys on this board, especially those senior guys
Who contributed much to Beijing board.
I think, the easiest way to get girls is to make a phone call to
Any of the reliable out call providers like Kitty, Maria, Lily, Angel etc.
Going to bars like Maggies, Chocolate, Pig etc,
Or visiting saunas or KTVs are nice choices as well.
I'm sure you'll get gems via these reliable establishments above.
CL girls are not a nice choice at all, especially for those new travellers.
Seekingals.
SmithyChen
11-07-11, 19:06
I tried Angels again after the successful first time and it was pretty decent.
The girl arrived a bit late but she was quiet GFE with the old thing.
I had Yan who looked around mid 20s, perhaps 5'3-5'4 height and a B bust. Stayed and talked a bit afterwards then paid and left.
All in all, paid 500 and 100 for the taxi, wasn't bad for a last minute outcall.
You must really be looking in the wrong places. On one of my first excursions I was close to Tsinghua University and came across this small massage place, I got this little cute 95 lbs gal with the perkiest little tits I've evr seen. I rocked her for quite a while, wasnt hurried and it was 200 yuan. I came back to her 3 times. By the last time she was offering her little ass to me and she was definetly huffin and a puffin. She came really hard and thenlay on her back smiling and waving her finger from side to side as if to say. This shouldn't have happened. Too much pleasure. LOL. I came back to Canada and when I went bak the following summer the place was turned into some little grocery store. Damn. She was fun. I will keep posting once in a while. I have tons of stories. Mostly good. Keep hunting. I don't know what it is but you get a feel of where to look after a while. I am not sure what you mean by because of the new posters. Mine aint fake buddy. When I'm back in Beijing I / ll get ya lined up if your there. Ill even make you a deal. If you don't give it over a 7 out of ten. I'll pay half. LOLHi, Dillonb:
Do you still find BBS or massage places near Tsinghua University these days? There were used to be some BBS places near "ba gou", about 5 minutes from the university (north of the university) , but they were all gone . The area is now occupied by many new residential buildings. You can see message places in these new buildings (usually on the 1st floor) , but I am not sure they provide full service.
I've been to Beijing 9 times in the last few years. I have read posts on here from time to time and decided I would join. I'm a bit disappointed in what I read and the price people are paying and where they go to get it. There are terrific spots BBS's and small massage places ALL over Beijing in every corner from the 1st RR to the small villages on the outside. If you have the time you need to check out the sidestreets and places a Laowai would normally not go. I've never had a problem and I've found some terrific women for as low as 100 yuan to freebies. I picked up a woman from Tianjin at the Silkmarket for christ sake and I'm 61 fkn years old. Lolol. Cost me a hotel and a meal for some pretty nice 40ish cougar. On my last vist I took the subway to Changchungjia. Exit B. Walked two blocks straight back from exit B tuirned right. Went down the street past some hotel to a BBS on the corner. Well. I found two of the cutest 20ish year old women I ever seen. Beautuful bodies. Both. 2oo freakin yuan for FS. They wanted 600 but accepted 200. I couldn't do them both but came back for the other one a week later. AWESOME. In my searches I like to go on the subway. Pick a community and then get off the subway and go exploring. All day. I take my time and wander in and out of the sidestreets and usually find something. I've had a few duds but many many times I've found some hot girls who are willing to barter. No hurry either during the day it seems. You have to take your time and barter hard. All they can do is say no. And then when you say adios they usually say ok. I'd never pay 600 let alone 1, 000 and some even 1500 for a girl when I know if I search a bit I can get 3 for 600. I guess it depends what you want and how much time you have. The quality is as good as any I've seen in the bars too including Maggies. You have to search. Ill be back again in the summertime.
Love Beijing.Dillonb:
Your report is accurate. However, the place in BBS is not confortable and not clean. Are girls willing to go to your hotel for 200-300? Thanks for your report.
Many of the most senior members insist that 1000 LT is possible. How do you do it? Is this with the least attractive ladies who are there every night, is this a 3 a.m. price, or do you have Brad Pitt's good looks? How do you do it?It has been a long time since I have updated my Guide to Beijing, but here is the link if anyone is interested:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=990547&viewfull=1#post990547
Below is an updated summary from this report regarding pricing:
So many factors affect the price that you will pay that I am hesitant to even generalize prices. Factors include venue, nationality, age, perceived beauty, amount of time 'in the business', time of day, day of the week, and even the day of the month (is rent due soon?). I have known many young, good looking guys who think they should get a discount simply because they are attractive, and the girl should want to go with them. Experience has shown that this attitude will typically cause the girl to charge you more, or give you worse services. Generally speaking multiple visits to the same girl will almost always improve the experience. Even if you do not take every girl in the place, the regulars will quickly learn if you are a "good guy" or not, and they will let the new girls know as well. It is for this reason that the residents are able to achieve better prices. Also, if you can setup a 'regular' visit with a girl you can typically negotiate a better rate than if you go with a different girl every time. This also holds true not just for residents, but also if you visit Beijing frequently and call the same girls when you are in town. The key is to simply discuss the situation with the girl. From her standpoint it is always better / safer to go with someone she knows is not crazy then to risk going with a stranger. I am a firm believer in the idea that "you get what you pay for". If you are quoted a crazy price you can always get angry and walk away. I think one of the big issues when it comes to price is that when we agree to a price in the bar we are making a leap of faith. Is this girl really worth the price she quoted? If the answer in your mind is absolutely no way in hell, then walk away. BUT if you really like her, and would be willing to pay more than market rate if she met all of your expectations, than I suggest U-turn on the charm and try something like:
I am sure you are worth it, but that is more than I had in mind. How about if I promise to give you 1,000 RMB, and if, in the morning, I have had the night of my life I will give you XXX (could be her asking price, or some other value above 1,000 RMB)You are trusting her to meet your expectations, as well as giving her an incentive to work harder. She is trusting you to be true to your word. If you are known to the girls (and believe me, if you have been to Maggie's more than once, they will know) and have been respectful to them in the past then they will most likely take you up on it. If you already have a bad reputation then you will be lucky to find anyone but the most desperate girls willing to go with you at all, much less at a discounted price. If you are new and have no reputation than you may need to develop some trust before they will take you up on it. Even if she does not jump at the chance right off, she will keep it in her mind and find you before she goes home alone. The same should apply to you. If you are about to walk out the door alone find her and give her one last chance to take you up on the offer.
All that being said, I believe the following price schedule is fair to both parties, but I am sure some would disagree:
Chinese Girl from a bar who speaks some English.
ST: 600 RMB to 1200 RMB (all night is rare because they may be expected home at a certain hour). The price will depend on her English skills, age and experience, as well as her opinion of her self-worth.
Young (20 to 30) Mongolian Girl
early evening (9 pm – 11 pm) , one shot: 800 to 1, 000 RMB, all night (rare) : 1, 200 to 1, 600 RMB.
Prime Time (11 pm – 3 am) , one shot: 1, 000 RMB, all night (more common) : 1, 200 to 1, 600 RMB.
Late night (3 am and after) , one shot: 600 to 800 RMB, all night: 1, 000 RMB.
Older (35+) Mongolian girl: 600 to 1000 RMB.
Don't dismiss the older girls. Their age has given them experience, and in general they truly know how to please a man. All night is not always an option because they also often have to be home at a certain hour.
Freelance Russian girl (rare) : anywhere from 600 to 1, 200 RMB.
Russian Girl from Hollywood / Absent / chocolate: 1200 RMB for short-time, and 3000 RMB for all night.
Russian girls from these places all work for a "pimp" so they are very firm on pricing. Generally speaking the pimps never create problems, but if you try to screw one of the girls over you do so at your own risk.
While I'm on a rant, it seems that almost all the Mongolian girls smoke. I hate that, and it's pretty much a deal breaker for me. I have to search long and hard to find any girls that don't smoke. Is this a Mongolian thing? Don't they realize that it turns off some potential customers?I am with you. I also am a non-smoker and prefer girls that do not smoke. Many of the girls are considerate enough to not smoke if you ask them politely. Some even will pick up on the fact that you are not smoking and stop. This of course does not get the smell out of her hair or cloths, but it is better than nothing.
Good luck, and happy hunting!
Sammy
Sammy.
Great report! I don't think you could have explained it any better. That pretty well sums up my experiences and I especally agree that the girls talk among themselves. They know if you are new, if you are honest, if you can be trusted and how you treat the girls. If you are fair with them they will treat you like gold.
Member #4144
11-08-11, 21:04
Sammy.
Great report! I don't think you could have explained it any better. That pretty well sums up my experiences and I especally agree that the girls talk among themselves. They know if you are new, if you are honest, if you can be trusted and how you treat the girls. If you are fair with them they will treat you like gold.I agree that Sammy had provided great report on the pricing situation in BJ, but I don't agree on his age grouping. Young girls from 20-30? I would say young has to be under 25. A 21 year old would definitely command a far higher price then a 30 years, at least in my experience. That said, I have never seen ANY WGs in Maggies under 25, so maybe that did not matter much then.
Fillmore
It has been a long time since I have updated my Guide to BeijingAlways a provider of best and most comprehensive report in Beijing, Sammy. I wonder how were the usual suspect doing there.
Bad Boy Billy
11-09-11, 21:59
attitude i would take a wild chance and try one of the services recently discussed. i sent an sms to kitty with specific requests and within minutes received a confirmation. an hour later, a young lady arrived who did not disappoint. 22, long black hair, slender. 34b (all real) .165 cm, good attitude. just what i asked for. for 600 + 100 tip it made for a very enjoyable hour +. once again, this is just my experience, but i am no longer a skeptic.
i may actually give kitty a chance now, as he is the first person i have personally known to have tried her service.let me give you my experience with kitty's girls last week.
firstly let me say teddy is a fine friend of mine. last week we spent 3 nights together hunting for girls in all the usual places. the den, chocolate, vics, maggies etc.
so on teddy's recomendation i tried kitty's service. i sent sms saying i want her send girl to my room. "tall, young, slim with big titts".
no answer. so send message again. 15 minutes later no answer. so i call her. you want girl. yes. your hotel?. i will sms to you. which i did. 5 minutes later another sms. room number. give her room number but say girl call me when she arrive cause she cannot activate elevator without my room key. another sms from kitty. go to your room now and i call room. 5 minutes later she calls. i guess this is to stop prank callers who order girls with no intention of receiving them.
so all is set.
now bear in mind i have teddy t and fernando waiting to meet me for dinner after i finish with this girl. 90 minutes later no girl. i sms kitty forget it i aint waiting no longer. sms back. no please do not miss her she is 18yo with very big boobs. ok i will wait for that. exactly 2 hours after closing the deal the girl arrives.
go to lobby to fetch. yes pretty young thing. no english. ok. up to room i start peeling her clothes off. she is not very cooperative. huge hard titts. come on honey kiss me. no kissing. wtf. come on honey bbbj. no bbbj only cbj. fuck you. out you go. and i booted her out.
showered up and headed to the den to meet tt and fa. sms'd kitty and said girl no good. she relies i will send another. forget it.
next afternoon sms kitty again. send me a girl. ok this time i send you 'excellent providor". well why the fukk did you not send me a good one yesterday instead of that learner you sent me. 1.5hrs later a girl arrives. no doll but ok. up to room. and peel her clothes off. 22yrs or so i would say. nice big titts again. ok kiss me honey. no kissing. ok honey bbbj. no bbbj only cbj. out you go too you biiitch. i aint paying for no shitty half baked service.
sms kitty. girl no good. ok i send another. by this time this is becoming a game to me. i got plenty time today so lets see how it plays out. 1 hr later another girl arrives. late 20s. small frame. all rugged up. up to room. peel her clothes off. body about a 4 or 5. pretty plain. let's see how she performs. ok kiss me honey. kissing was ok. ok honey bbbj. bbbj was ok. onto bed honey. more bbbj. ok on with condom ride me honey. from the time she mounted she started to scream. in eveery position she screamed. she loved it. from my point of view i always love a screamer. but she aint my type so this aint no sensational fukk imho.
finished and booted her out. went to the den and met with teddy that night. in conversation i remarked to teddy. the ultimate test of a girls performance is 'would i repeat'. well in this case even though she was a screamer nah i would not repeat. i want to fukk better types than that.
so there you go guys. 1 girl out of 3 provided any reasonable level of performance and i would not want her again. you guys can have your [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor half baked in call / out call girls. i'll continue with the mongolians from maggies and their friends who do not go to maggies but will still turn a trick with a guy theu know who will treat them well and pay them accordingly.
4 days in beijing. 2 african girls@rmb1, 000 each. 1 chinese from kitty@rmb600 + taxi 20 (boy did she wail when i only gave her 20 taxi money but that is all she was worth) and 7 mongolian girls@rmb1, 000ea. conclusion. you want fun? you want good sex? you have any idea what a truly good providor is like? if yes to all 3. go mongolian. if you want to settle for second rate. go the others.
Beijing4987
11-10-11, 01:02
Let me give you my experience with Kitty's girls last week.
Firstly let me say Teddy is a fine friend of mine. Last week we spent 3 nights together hunting for girls in all the usual places. The Den, Chocolate, Vics, Maggies etc.
So on Teddy's recomendation I tried Kitty's service. I sent SMS saying I want her send girl to my room."Tall, young, slim with big titts".
No answer. So send message again. 15 minutes later no answer. So I call her...Maybe you can add genuine (not fake) screamer to your wish list. Most hobbyists will settle for less due to lack of experience. Your report gives them valuale advice.
Thanks
Gentlemen,
I'm a recent resident here & would wish to know if there are similar haunts around the Wangjing & Shunyi districts (not just around Lido). Is the local saunas & bbs the only options? Your honest advice is much appreciated.
Gualtier Malde
11-11-11, 10:02
Gentlemen,
I'm a recent resident here & would wish to know if there are similar haunts around the Wangjing & Shunyi districts (not just around Lido). Is the local saunas & bbs the only options? Your honest advice is much appreciated.From my exploration, the Pig in Lido is the only game in the area for picking up a bar girl. I don't know of any FS saunas (I'm open to suggestions though, and am always willing to take one for the team.
The local massage places in the villages will frequently provide some sort of happy ending, but this is not an assured thing, especially if they don't know you. I've become somewhat of a regular at one place, and have "graduated" to FS, but they are very discreet about it, because they told me their boss would fire them if he found out. Bring your own condom though, those places are likely not to have their own, and if the girl does get interested and frisky, she is likely as not to just slip it in bareback. You have to be careful, these are not sophisticated women.
I've found that the places that carelessly offer more than a hand job tend to attract attention (more customers) and then the local village committee takes notice, and then they are shut down. So, if you find a place, might as well keep it to yourself, because if you tell the world, the world will come, and the place will be gone. They disappear with sufficient regularity that it doesn't matter much anyway. Any place you reveal is probably already weeks or days away from closing.
One village in the Shunyi area has four massage places that I know of. Two provide happy endings, one allowed me to grope but didn't offer a happy ending after two visits, and I haven't tried the other. So, best to just give them a try, and see what happens. They're all cheap (typically 168 for the "special" massage that will include a HE) , and I've tipped as low as 20 for the HE and gotten a sincere thank you from the provider (not sure they are expecting anything at all for a basic HE).
You'll get nothing at all from places that cater to (and advertise to) the expatriate community. Those places will be much cleaner, but you'll pay western rates with no HE.
GM
It seems another crackdown is on in Beijing, at least on saunas. I don't know if it's affecting BBS as well; presumably places like Maggies will remain unaffected. So if you visit a sauna over the next few days, don't be surprised if you're only offered a regular massage. And if they offer more, then they, and you, are taking a bit of a risk. News of the crackdown was spreading around the sauna community on Thursday afternoon. It's expected to last a week or so, but who knows? Take care out there.
I loved Beijing. The most interesting time I have had just doing tourist type things that I can recall. Being that I live in Bangkok, I did not monger any. It is just too expensive compared to Thailand, and as always no matter where you are it can be hit or miss. But I will make a few comments that may help others.
1. Hotel massage is outcall in most high end hotels now. At both places I stayed there was not a massage shop in the hotel with girls just sitting around waiting, there was a card in the room listing the services offered to 1am. Full body massage was quoted at 350 rmb for 1 hour. I'm sure if you called and did not like the girl, you would still be charged. I have no idea what everything would have cost.
2. Taxi Book- The free I phone version does not work if your phone is not connected to the internet. Again I have no idea if you were to purchase the full version if it would work without the internet. I had planned to go to Chocolate and Maggies, but when the app did not work, I did not have the nerve to go to hotel desk and ask for them to write it down. They might not have known anyway.
3. Women on the street. I was approached by women everywhere I went. However, most of the woman did not speak any English. I agree with Dillion B's comments about Beijing, however if you do not speak a word of one the Chinese languages you are pretty much screwed. Again like Dillion B said if you have the time there is probably plenty of free to cheap pussy to be had, but I did not feel like typing a number into my cell phone and dragging a woman back to my hotel, who I could not even ask "What is your name?" The girls who spoke pretty good English would have probably asked for too much, to provide mundane service. They might have just been tea scammers anyway.
4. November- It was cold! It is impossible to tell what the girl might have really looked like underneath all those clothes.
I hope in the future I have the time and the money to stay in China for an extended period of time, but it is no doubt an extraordinary place.
One village in the Shunyi area has four massage places that I know of. Two provide happy endings, one allowed me to grope but didn't offer a happy ending after two visits, and I haven't tried the other. So, best to just give them a try, and see what happens. They're all cheap (typically 168 for the "special" massage that will include a HE) , and I've tipped as low as 20 for the HE and gotten a sincere thank you from the provider (not sure they are expecting anything at all for a basic HE).
GMThanks, GM. I'll go out exploring more over the few weeks. Would these places be nearer to the town of Shunyi or closer to the villages near the Expat communities themselves?
I loved Beijing. The most interesting time I have had just doing tourist type things that I can recall. Being that I live in Bangkok, I did not monger any. It is just too expensive compared to Thailand, and as always no matter where you are it can be hit or miss. But I will make a few comments that may help others.
1. Hotel massage is outcall in most high end hotels now. At both places I stayed there was not a massage shop in the hotel with girls just sitting around waiting, there was a card in the room listing the services offered to 1am. Full body massage was quoted at 350 rmb for 1 hour. I'm sure if you called and did not like the girl, you would still be charged. I have no idea what everything would have cost.
2. Taxi Book- The free I phone version does not work if your phone is not connected to the internet. Again I have no idea if you were to purchase the full version if it would work without the internet. I had planned to go to Chocolate and Maggies, but when the app did not work, I did not have the nerve to go to hotel desk and ask for them to write it down. They might not have known anyway.
3. Women on the street. I was approached by women everywhere I went. However, most of the woman did not speak any English. I agree with Dillion B's comments about Beijing, however if you do not speak a word of one the Chinese languages you are pretty much screwed. Again like Dillion B said if you have the time there is probably plenty of free to cheap pussy to be had, but I did not feel like typing a number into my cell phone and dragging a woman back to my hotel, who I could not even ask "What is your name?" The girls who spoke pretty good English would have probably asked for too much, to provide mundane service. They might have just been tea scammers anyway.
4. November- It was cold! It is impossible to tell what the girl might have really looked like underneath all those clothes.
I hope in the future I have the time and the money to stay in China for an extended period of time, but it is no doubt an extraordinary place.The Beijing Taxi Guide App for both the IPhone and the IPad will work in Chuna without the internet. Its data base includes listings fro both Maggies and Chocolate as well as all of the other popular venues.
I loved Beijing. The most interesting time I have had just doing tourist type things that I can recall. Being that I live in Bangkok, I did not monger any. It is just too expensive compared to Thailand, and as always no matter where you are it can be hit or miss. But I will make a few comments that may help others.
1. Hotel massage is outcall in most high end hotels now. At both places I stayed there was not a massage shop in the hotel with girls just sitting around waiting, there was a card in the room listing the services offered to 1am. Full body massage was quoted at 350 rmb for 1 hour. I'm sure if you called and did not like the girl, you would still be charged. I have no idea what everything would have cost.
2. Taxi Book- The free I phone version does not work if your phone is not connected to the internet. Again I have no idea if you were to purchase the full version if it would work without the internet. I had planned to go to Chocolate and Maggies, but when the app did not work, I did not have the nerve to go to hotel desk and ask for them to write it down. They might not have known anyway.
3. Women on the street. I was approached by women everywhere I went. However, most of the woman did not speak any English. I agree with Dillion B's comments about Beijing, however if you do not speak a word of one the Chinese languages you are pretty much screwed. Again like Dillion B said if you have the time there is probably plenty of free to cheap pussy to be had, but I did not feel like typing a number into my cell phone and dragging a woman back to my hotel, who I could not even ask "What is your name?" The girls who spoke pretty good English would have probably asked for too much, to provide mundane service. They might have just been tea scammers anyway.
4. November- It was cold! It is impossible to tell what the girl might have really looked like underneath all those clothes.
I hope in the future I have the time and the money to stay in China for an extended period of time, but it is no doubt an extraordinary place.The Beijing Taxi Guide App works off line with both the IPhone and IPod and its database includes listings for Maggie's, Chocolate and most of the other popular
Venues. Frequented venues can be saved to a Favorite tab which makes it easy to pull up the directions in Chinese when taking a taxi. There is another function which
Permits you to cut and paste in your own information for venues not listed in the database and to email these directions to third parties. This may be a way for Board
Members to share new discoveries by posting addresses or directions which can be included in new Taxi Guide cards.
Bad Boy Billy
11-13-11, 03:16
I 2. Taxi Book- The free I phone version does not work if your phone is not connected to the internet. Again I have no idea if you were to purchase the full version if it would work without the internet. I had planned to go to Chocolate and Maggies, but when the app did not work, I did not have the nerve to go to hotel desk and ask for them to write it down. They might not have known anyway.Not quite sure why you could not access Taxi Book free version once you have the App installed on your phone. That does not make sense.
Both Maggies and Chocolate are indeed viewable on free version of Taxi Book. And whist on Taxi Book. This App is the most brilliant App I have seen re-China. It is a MUST have for all mongers if you do not speak Chinese. MUST HAVE.
Member #4144
11-13-11, 03:21
. I had planned to go to Chocolate and Maggies, but when the app did not work, I did not have the nerve to go to hotel desk and ask for them to write it down. They might not have known anyway.You should ask the hotel desk, but not how to get to Maggies but ask them to write down in Chinese Ritan Park South Gate, on Guanghua Lu. Any taxi driver will know how to get there if you show them that. The place is kind of dark at night and not much around the area.
Fillmore
Not quite sure why you could not access Taxi Book free version once you have the App installed on your phone. That does not make sense.You can access the app, but the taxi cards themselves are not stored on the phone with the free version. When I would press the destination, it would not proceed to show the taxi card. You could make copies of the taxi cards before you arrived, but I did not think about doing that.
You should ask the hotel desk, but not how to get to Maggies but ask them to write down in Chinese Ritan Park South Gate, on Guanghua Lu. Any taxi driver will know how to get there if you show them that. The place is kind of dark at night and not much around the area.
FillmoreIn Beijing and Shanghai I usually ask the hotel desk to write down in Chinese the place I want to go. Never had a problem. Just gave the paper to the taxi guy.
There is point in feeling shy. Hotel guys have seen and heard it all.
Loveasiangirls
11-13-11, 08:44
In Beijing and Shanghai I usually ask the hotel desk to write down in Chinese the place I want to go. Never had a problem. Just gave the paper to the taxi guy.
There is point in feeling shy. Hotel guys have seen and heard it all.If you don't have an iPhone go to this website: http://www.mobilenative.com/index.php
You can have the address sent to your phone in english or in Chinese. You can search for Maggie's specifically. You can also look for any kind of establishment (first box) near a landmark (second search box).
Gualtier Malde
11-13-11, 13:52
Thanks, GM. I'll go out exploring more over the few weeks. Would these places be nearer to the town of Shunyi or closer to the villages near the Expat communities themselves?Near the expat communities. But it really is a voyage of discovery, and patience. Good luck!
GM
Null Avenger
11-13-11, 22:39
first, i'll apologize for lurking more then i contribute;
i've been in beijing for a little while and haven't really had much mongering success. i'm not a huge fan of the bar scene, and prefer bbses / saunas / direct incall, which are not as easily visible as southern cities.
experiment #1
near jin bao jie and [small side road] there is a rt that is somewhat obvious; a gaggle of 5 girls sit in a windowed storefront watching tv; this differs from my previous expectations since there isn't any purple / red lights or bbs pole. given that they stay open till 2am [thus eliminating it from being some "normal" business venture that just happens to employ girls to watch tv], i decided to walk in a give it a try:
immediately all the girls start making "shocked day time television talk show" sounds, and the language barrier becomes a instant problem; after a few seconds the 50 year old mamasan indicates massage [which at least seems like we are going into the right direction], and leads me into the back. on the plus side the back had 3 different rooms with well appointed doors including trendy glass portholes, the rooms have floor to ceiling walls, which provided a degree of separation for customers [a rarity! ]. on the negative side, the room is basically 6 inches of floor and a twin mattress which was the dirtiest thing i've ever seen in a bbs, ever. sheets of highly dubious cleanliness, with strands of pubic hair rep001tered about, a off white pillow blackened in the center from hundreds [thousands? ] of greasy heads. i'm no royal princess and won't let a little non-dangerous ickyness ruin an adventure; i do, however, use my t-shirt as a pillow case, which triggers the mamasan to insist on getting a clean pillow, from the next room. as it happens the "clean" pillow only happens to have been darkened to a deep brown from all the hair grease, a marked improvement!
mamasan produces a menu, which i couldn't read, with prices ranging from 50rmb to 118rmb, i point at the latter and instead of getting one of the girls, the mamasan proceeds to do a very perfunctory massage for about 30 seconds, flip. 30 seconds, then upsell for hj for the low price of an red bill. its clear the mamasan intends to complete the deed herself. in the best of circumstances i'm no fan of hjs [as i can perform them myself], but i really needed a pretty face to at least make the proposal workable. a few minutes of horrid chinese and sign language later, and the mamasan produces a 8/10 girl [where had she been hiding? things are looking up]. roaming was allowed, and after some brief discussion she removed her shirt, but would not remove her bra, full stop. total damage out the door, two red bills, and a general feeling of ickynes and the need for a long hot shower. i won't repeat.
- experiment #2 [a tale of woe and self loathing]
a block[ish] east from the kerry center is a hole in the wall bbs open till twoish; white lights, one barber chair. 4 girls watching tv and knitting?
girls range from 4/10-7/10; mamasan even waves you in, if you look inside. in the back there are cubicles with walls going up 6 inches from the ceiling, and a minimal curtain door. there are even back-walking-handle bars on the ceiling. a happy surprise, the room is very clean, fresh towels cover the bed, the floor has no spit on it, and the pillow smells like soap. the gentle sound of fapping fills the space.
if not for the barber shop chair this would look like a actual massage shop. choose a cute girl who is gargling water at the sink, go to a massage cubical, where she says "its 100 for the massage" [this turns out to be the only english she knows, ha]. she insists on doing the massage, has me lay face first, where she does a game impression of a masseuse for about 2 minutes [i suspect she rarely, if ever, has the need to kneed]. flip, another phoned in hit the foreigner like a piñata session; mamasan pokes her head through curtain yells something about getting a move on. through the wonder of sign language girl offers a hj for the low price of 600 rmb, i flat out refuse indicating bj or bust, she refuses for a bit then agrees. she leaves, comes back with mamasan and a barrier of rubber like qualities; mamasan wants to upsell two two girl fun, [why have one, when you can have two for twice the price? ] but will not take no for an answer [eventually leaves when i start to get dressed]. right, so mr. happy isn't exactly mr quick, and despite cute girls efforts you can't rubberize a flaccid thing-a-whosit [why would a bbs stock long-lasting (numbing) rubbers? ]. to their credit, there was no rush or pressure to perform here [i found out later they were closed and already had locked up the shop]; i ask for bbbj, get refused, offer 50% addition and get a very slow nod from the cute girl. she spends the next minute inspecting zee-package like she is a follicle bounty hunter for the hair-club for men, given the amount of effort she put in she could sketch my junk blindfolded. then begins a earnest but completely lackluster bbbj that really doesn't register. not much i can do, lacking the language skills to give pointers. one of the other girls, comes in again for two girl upsell, but this time cute girl isn't trying to get me to accept, just slightly nodding her head no to me. i refuse the upsell and a scant 5 minutes later new girl leaves, receive thumbs up from cute girl. [side note, i learned in other hj places, if your getting something off menu do not double up or your girl will lose her nerve (same principle behind having two keys in a missile silo) ]. anyway, finish overpriced, earnest but amateurish bbbj, get cleaned up by cutie, some post-event baby talk for the foreigner; find the door is locked get let out by mamasan who can't stop smiling.
- experiment #3#100.
tried many massage / spa type places with no finds [but its not impossible i'm not asking the right questions], i can say my feet feel, very, very relaxed now.
[but i see the note about a crack down, so maybe its just not worth the effort]
Gualtier Malde
11-14-11, 07:02
NA,
No need to apologize. You only have to apologize if all you do is ask for info that you can get from reading. But you've lurked here enough that surely you know this.
Thanks for the post. Some points for you to consider:
1. Regarding your experiment 3, basically any upper scale "SPA" place is unlikely to be a happy ending place. But you can find some great foot massage, etc. Places for legit massage services. If they advertise and serve men and women, you aren't in a HE place. Just enjoy them for what they are.
2. Regarding the down and dirty BBS type establishments: You have certainly figured out what to look for, and many times they are far more discreet than in the more southern cities. In some areas, you'll see a small room with one woman inside, and the room will have pretty much nothing more than what appears to be a makeup table (mirror, random stuff in front of it). These are many times little RT BBS establishments. You might get a BJ in one, but doubtful.
3. I recommend avoiding the dirtiest and smallest of the BBS shops. None are particularly clean, and most of the girls do spit on the floor, but they do vary, and some do indeed change the sheets!
4. When you find a BBS you can tolerate on the cleanliness front, and it has girls you can tolerate seeing more than once, do visit them more than one time. But, don't go crazy on the up sell route. If they are asking you for 100 for a HJ after you've paid for their top massage, you are paying too much. I think you should be able to get away with as little as 20-40 additional if it is an out of the way BBS servicing locals, even if you are a westerner. You should never, ever, ever be paying 600 for anything in a BBS, even FS. You were right to refuse. If you do get suckered into a high rate, don't ever go back to that BBS again, because you have certainly ruined it for yourself there. Stick to your guns on price. I'd never go above 100 tip for anything they might offer, ever. (Note, I might actually tip more than 100 in the end, but only by my choice, not theirs. My preference is not to negotiate up front at all, and sometimes that works if you have a good relationship with the girl.)
5. A BBS that is used to servicing foreigners is more likely to agree to FS on a first visit, but they will also try to charge you way too much. If you have the patience, I recommend sticking to ones less used to foreigners, and slowly escalate the services over multiple visits. If they move from HJ to BJ after they get to know you, likely the FS will follow with time. You might need to exchange numbers with the girl, and exchange some texts to keep in touch with her. I've found BBS girls that move to FS this way and don't even ask for tips, especially up front, but are happy and appear surprised when I tuck a little cash into their pocket or bra at the end of the session. I never tuck too much, and try to not show them what I gave them. They won't pull out cash and count it in front of you. This kind of interaction takes time to develop, and is unlikely to ever happen on a first visit.
Oh, and I should note that I've developed these kinds of relationships in a BBS speaking almost no Chinese at all. You can accomplish a lot with smiles, touches, kisses and hand signs. Shyly saying "wo ting bu dong" ("I don't understand") when they ask you a question, then smiling and kissing them, seems to melt their hearts.
GM.
Ps: I've seen no impact on the more discreet local massage places from any crackdown. That's one of the advantages of going into the villages and finding places that don't cater to foreigners.
First, I'll apologize for lurking more then I contribute;
I've been in Beijing for a little while and haven't really had much mongering success. I'm not a huge fan of the bar scene, and prefer BBSes / Saunas / direct incall, which are not as easily visible as southern cities.
Experiment #1
Near Jin Bao Jie and [small side road] there is a RT that is somewhat obvious;
[description of yucky place and experience removed for brevity].
Total damage out the door, two red bills, and a general feeling of ickynes and the need for a long hot shower. I won't repeat.
- Experiment #2 [A tale of woe and self loathing]
A block[ish] east from the Kerry center is a hole in the wall BBS open till twoish; White lights, one barber chair. 4 girls watching TV and knitting?
Girls range from 4/10-7/10; mamasan even waves you in, if you look inside. In the back there are cubicles with walls going up 6 inches from the ceiling, and a minimal curtain door. There are even back-walking-handle bars on the ceiling. A happy surprise, the room is very clean, fresh towels cover the bed, the floor has no spit on it, and the pillow smells like soap. The gentle sound of fapping fills the space.
[interesting experience and negotiation deleted for brevity].
- Experiment #3#100.
Tried many massage / Spa type places with no finds [but its not impossible I'm not asking the right questions], I can say my feet feel, very, very relaxed now.
[but I see the note about a crack down, so maybe its just not worth the effort]
From my exploration, the Pig in Lido is the only game in the area for picking up a bar girl. I don't know of any FS saunas (I'm open to suggestions though, and am always willing to take one for the team.
The local massage places in the villages will frequently provide some sort of happy ending, but this is not an assured thing, especially if they don't know you. I've become somewhat of a regular at one place, and have "graduated" to FS, but they are very discreet about it, because they told me their boss would fire them if he found out. Bring your own condom though, those places are likely not to have their own, and if the girl does get interested and frisky, she is likely as not to just slip it in bareback. You have to be careful, these are not sophisticated women.
I've found that the places that carelessly offer more than a hand job tend to attract attention (more customers) and then the local village committee takes notice, and then they are shut down. So, if you find a place, might as well keep it to yourself, because if you tell the world, the world will come, and the place will be gone. They disappear with sufficient regularity that it doesn't matter much anyway. Any place you reveal is probably already weeks or days away from closing.
One village in the Shunyi area has four massage places that I know of. Two provide happy endings, one allowed me to grope but didn't offer a happy ending after two visits, and I haven't tried the other. So, best to just give them a try, and see what happens. They're all cheap (typically 168 for the "special" massage that will include a HE) , and I've tipped as low as 20 for the HE and gotten a sincere thank you from the provider (not sure they are expecting anything at all for a basic HE).
You'll get nothing at all from places that cater to (and advertise to) the expatriate community. Those places will be much cleaner, but you'll pay western rates with no HE.
GMFrom reports I have heard recently all of Yanjiao MP's, BBS etc. Are closed. Can anyone offer more info? I have a concern; is it information shared in this thread that is causing this, is big brother snooping here? I think it is unusual for that much activity in Yanjiao, I hope we are not spoiling it for everyone out there. Maybe it is time to be even more careful about giving details on here? This is sad news indeed!
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