North China - Beijing

[Sammy_T]

Brothers.

Later this week I will be hosting one of my "red ticket" parties. This is not a sex party. More like a cocktail party where you can get to know some of our lovely northern sisters in a relaxed environment. The parties are in the evening, and typically end with everyone loading up for a bit of a pub crawl, ending up at Maggie's. Food and drink are provided for a reasonable fee (I just want to cover costs, not make any money). There is also often some lively entertainment.

For additional details please feel free to send me a PM. If you include your mobile phone number I will update you as we get closer to the event. All are welcome, but if I don't know you I will need someone to vouch for you before I disclose location, date, and time. For those who have only seen the old, fat, Mongolian girls at Maggie's: I promise you will have a chance to meet the better half!

Cheers!

Sammy

[Teltel]

From reports I have heard recently all of Yanjiao MP's, BBS etc. Are closed. Can anyone offer more info? I have a concern; is it information shared in this thread that is causing this, is big brother snooping here? I think it is unusual for that much activity in Yanjiao, I hope we are not spoiling it for everyone out there. Maybe it is time to be even more careful about giving details on here? This is sad news indeed!My place in Beijing is not too far from YanJiao, I know that any foreigner going past the sixth ring road does attact attention if only from the possible need to register if staying out that way. Several foreigners journeying outt that way would most probably have come to the notice of the police who are ever vigilent in their local communities. On top of that one must never forget that the local party branch and block representatives may also have been observing and reporting.

I am of european decent but am now very much a local in that part of Beijing and Chinese friends often remark on and point out foreigners passing by. My visits to BBS / massage are always to local places and I have my favourite girls but these places are in the back streets and definitely only for locals (and "adopted" locals such as I)

Teltel

[Breck]

Brothers.

Later this week I will be hosting one of my "red ticket" parties. This is not a sex party. More like a cocktail party where you can get to know some of our lovely northern sisters in a relaxed environment. The parties are in the evening, and typically end with everyone loading up for a bit of a pub crawl, ending up at Maggie's. Food and drink are provided for a reasonable fee (I just want to cover costs, not make any money). There is also often some lively entertainment.

For additional details please feel free to send me a PM. If you include your mobile phone number I will update you as we get closer to the event. All are welcome, but if I don't know you I will need someone to vouch for you before I disclose location, date, and time. For those who have only seen the old, fat, Mongolian girls at Maggie's: I promise you will have a chance to meet the better half!

Cheers!

SammyRemember guys this is the boy who arranged a "red ticket" party once before and ended up having it visited by Beijing's finest. They hauled off the Northern sisters, threw them in jail, humiliated them and kicked them out of China. Be careful!

[Gualtier Malde]

I think it's a valid concern. I try to never mention the location of my haunts, in the case of my village MPs, I won't even mention the village anymore. I frankly don't think they need to be named, the pattern works at most of them, and if you want to visit a MP or BBS, more than likely you have to find it yourself anyway, because they change so frequently. So my thinking is, why help out The Man?

GM.


From reports I have heard recently all of Yanjiao MP's, BBS etc. Are closed. Can anyone offer more info? I have a concern; is it information shared in this thread that is causing this, is big brother snooping here? I think it is unusual for that much activity in Yanjiao, I hope we are not spoiling it for everyone out there. Maybe it is time to be even more careful about giving details on here? This is sad news indeed!

[Cooler Wolf2]

Remember guys this is the boy who arranged a "red ticket" party once before and ended up having it visited by Beijing's finest. They hauled off the Northern sisters, threw them in jail, humiliated them and kicked them out of China. Be careful!I would have thought it more honest if you were to make this kind of post under your usual User ID instead of creating a new one to 'remind us guys' AKA flaming the OP.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Brothers.Later this week I will be hosting one of my "red ticket" parties. This is not a sex party.Well fuuck it I won't be there then.


Remember guys this is the boy who arranged a "red ticket" party once before and ended up having it visited by Beijing's finest. They hauled off the Northern sisters, threw them in jail, humiliated them and kicked them out of China. Be careful!So it was this Sammy priick that caused this problem. Jeez wish I had known that previously. You got a lot to answer to Samuel T Tiny Titty.

Shame this non-sex party was not following week. I might be in town 25th to 29th. Sigh.

[Sammy_T]

Remember guys this is the boy who arranged a "red ticket" party once before and ended up having it visited by Beijing's finest. They hauled off the Northern sisters, threw them in jail, humiliated them and kicked them out of China. Be careful!Technically Breck's comments are true, and I guess offer a legitimate warning: I did host a party in early 2008, and it was visited by Beijing's finest.

Now for the rest of the story.

It was right in the middle of the "no blacks or Mongolians allowed" stage of the pre-Olympic crack down. (see:

http://shanghaiist.com/2008/07/18/the_racist_games.php

) I had done my best to hold the event at a "secure" venue, even confirming with the bar owner that they were up-to-date with their contribution to the local 'police retirement fund'. The cops had followed 2 girls from another venue to our party, and that was how they found us. When the police arrived they asked to see everyone's passports. No men were hassled, but three sisters (different from the 2 that were followed) were taken to the local police station because of ill regularities with their passports. One was released when she showed she had a valid visa. The other two had not properly registered with the PSB upon arrival in China, and were told they had to leave Beijing within 3 days. The next day I took them to the Mongolian Airlines office and paid for their plane tickets home. After their departure they were not allowed back in China until after the Olympics. I am still friends with all of these girls, and keep in touch with them regularly. Were they humiliated? Yes, but they were not treated like prostitutes. They were treated like individuals who had over stayed their visas.

The goal of my events is to hold a party of like-minded individuals. It allows us to meet one another, and swap stories. Prior to, and since the 2008 incident t I have held other get-togethers without incident. This is because we are not doing anything wrong or illegal. Just a group of friends getting together in a public establishment for food and drink. Through these events I have made several good friends (I'll even claim BadBoyBilly) It is of course always nice to have beautiful females in the mix, and they always make the conversation more stimulating.

Now you have the full story and are able to decide for yourself if the benefits outweighs the risk. Looking forward to seeing those who have already RSVP'ed!

Sammy

[Valkyrie]

Brothers.

Later this week I will be hosting one of my "red ticket" parties. This is not a sex party. More like a cocktail party where you can get to know some of our lovely northern sisters in a relaxed environment. The parties are in the evening, and typically end with everyone loading up for a bit of a pub crawl, ending up at Maggie's. Food and drink are provided for a reasonable fee (I just want to cover costs, not make any money). There is also often some lively entertainment.

For additional details please feel free to send me a PM. If you include your mobile phone number I will update you as we get closer to the event. All are welcome, but if I don't know you I will need someone to vouch for you before I disclose location, date, and time. For those who have only seen the old, fat, Mongolian girls at Maggie's: I promise you will have a chance to meet the better half!

Cheers!

SammyDammit ! And I am finally set on the money to pay in full for the ticket. No more student discount

[Bad Boy Billy]

Just like to set the record straight. As if it is at all necessary. But some newbies might be mislead by the innaccurate and misleading post by Breck.

Firstly. Breck. Have you posted under another hasndle as it has been inferred? If yes. Grow some balls and put your hand up. If not then you just need to make sure of the accuracy of your reports. Innacurate and damaging reporting WIOLL come back to bit you on the arse at some point in the future.

OK now to the important stuff.

NOBODY. And I mean NOBODY. Has more knowledge of the Mongolian girls in Beijing than Sammy does.

NOBODY. And I mean NOBODY. Has been more benevolent financially and emotionally to the Mongolian girls than Sammy has.

NOBODY. And I mean NOBODY. Has been or could be a 'grander' host to ISG brothers visiting Beijing than Sammy has.

NOBODY. And I mean NOBODY. Has done more to foster 'cross cultural' relations between visiting ISG brothers and delightful northen sisters than Sammy has.

Sammy has become a legend and institution in Beijing. Any ISG brother who follows this thread or has visited Beijing would know this fact.

For some 'half smart, dim-witted, wet behind the ears drop kick' to post otherwise is TOTALLY UNJUSTIFIED. Breck. Put up or shut up. Your attack on a valuable contributing member to this forum is unwarranted and certainly not appreciated.

Long live my great mate Sammy T. King of the social scene in Beijing. You are a legend in my eyes Sammy.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Dammit ! And I am finally set on the money to pay in full for the ticket. No more student discountVal. Whats doing mate? If I can talk Sammy into coming to Jakarta for 2 or 3 days after Christmas you going to look after us?

You better start putting together list of best outlets to visit and pricing etc. We are coming your way.

[Canada]

I agree totally. This post is exactly how it is in beijing.


just like to set the record straight. As if it is at all necessary. But some newbies might be mislead by the innaccurate and misleading post by breck.

Firstly. Breck. Have you posted under another hasndle as it has been inferred? If yes. Grow some balls and put your hand up. If not then you just need to make sure of the accuracy of your reports. Innacurate and damaging reporting wioll come back to bit you on the arse at some point in the future.

Ok now to the important stuff.

Nobody. And i mean nobody. Has more knowledge of the mongolian girls in beijing than sammy does.

Nobody. And i mean nobody. Has been more benevolent financially and emotionally to the mongolian girls than sammy has.

Nobody. And i mean nobody. Has been or could be a 'grander' host to isg brothers visiting beijing than sammy has.

Nobody. And i mean nobody. Has done more to foster 'cross cultural' relations between visiting isg brothers and delightful northen sisters than sammy has.

Sammy has become a legend and institution in beijing. Any isg brother who follows this thread or has visited beijing would know this fact.

For some 'half smart, dim-witted, wet behind the ears drop kick' to post otherwise is totally unjustified. Breck. Put up or shut up. Your attack on a valuable contributing member to this forum is unwarranted and certainly not appreciated.

Long live my great mate sammy t. King of the social scene in beijing. You are a legend in my eyes sammy.

[Valkyrie]

Val. Whats doing mate? If I can talk Sammy into coming to Jakarta for 2 or 3 days after Christmas you going to look after us?

You better start putting together list of best outlets to visit and pricing etc. We are coming your way.Hey man. That is perfect. I am planning to visit Jakarta for between Chistmas to New Year Eve. Completely unrelated fun. But sure. I will be more than glad to look after you two.

I definitely can show you around. Helps too that I speak locals, no?

Need not worry. Except I will not be renting a car, as I definitely had never memorized Jakarta roads. So. Cab pooling.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Sammy. I will send you a pm. Jakarta in new year for 3 or 4 nights?

Any other ISG Beijing brothers interested?

Time we went and said Hi to Valkyrie.

[Valkyrie]

Sammy. I will send you a pm. Jakarta in new year for 3 or 4 nights?

Any other ISG Beijing brothers interested?

Time we went and said Hi to Valkyrie.I am just a little sorry I cannot welcome the brother in arms with red ticket party like Sammy did.

Just getting started to work suck.

[Bad Boy Billy]

there were some references earlier in this thread to an app called taxi book. imho this is the best app i have ever seen. and imho it is a must for all non chinese speaking isg brothers visiting china.


i did have an issue with taxi book when ios 5 was first released. so i contacted the developers and lo and behold they responded immediately. brilliant service.

after reading the concerns earlier in this thread i contacted developers again and below is chapter and verse the questions and their answers.

disclaimer: i have no association with the developers of this app in any way, shape or form. i just want to promote it to isg brothers as i feel it is invaluable.

q: if free taxi book china is downloaded the data is actually stored on phone right? you do not need wi-fi or 3g to show taxi card for say an individual bar or hotel or other destination?

a: yes you are right; everything is stored in the iphone, also the speech output. btw. did you notice that when you tap on the taxi card, the iphone will talk in chinese? the only time when the taxi book needs the internet is when you use the map features.

q: i first downloaded free taxi book – then i purchased beijing – then i purchased shanghai. but now i have 2 taxi book icons on my iphone – 1st one is beijing only – 2nd one is taxi book complete showing both my purchased beijing and shanghai and list of other cities that can be purchased. should i delete stand alone beijing and just stick with china? or leave as is? (screen capture attached)

a: i definitely recommend using taxi book china as we constantly update the databases and provide new versions. this will not be the case with taxi book beijing. so you can delete taxi book beijing. and if you want it again, just download it from the app store, it does not cost any extra money.

q: what is the process for getting a hotel or bar or restaurant or whatever listed in your taxi book? should said institution contact you? should users ask you add these institutions? is there a cost to be listed?

a: there are several ways to get listed in the taxi book:

1. we have partners in china who collect and update the data. however usually they are not always up-to-date as they care for all the cities.

2. users like you may send us a feedback via the app if they find something we do not have in our taxi book or if there are any changes.

3. institutions may contact us and send us their data. we do not charge any money from the institutions as we want to deliver the best service to our users which means we like to have everything in so to say.

hope this helps guys - keep safe - have fun - treat the girls well.

[Cooler Wolf2]

Technically Breck's comments are true
Firstly. Breck. Have you posted under another handle as it has been inferred? If yes. Grow some balls and put your hand up.Exactly my point. For the poster to have knowledge of events from 2 to 3 years ago, would suggest fairly clearly to me that he has created another handle to name (and shame) another poster.

The accuracy of the complaint is not the issue for me, it is the naming (and shaming) of another while concealing his own identity.

Sadly I won't be in Beijing. If I were, I would count myself fortunate to be able to hang out with some of ISG board legends for an evening. Oh. And hang out with the ladies too.

[Fifty Shades]

I have done mostly freebies in China and it is interesting to note that even though they may comment that I am big, they never complain about it. On the other hand, WG (whose p*why sees a lot of action) will say I am too big and complain and use this excuse to end the session. It is really just BS as far as I am concerned. And, I don't think I am that big in any case.I've never had a WG here complain that I was too big (I reject the obvious implication that I am small) but a petite girlfriend I use to have here did. Most of the older WGs here are actually pretty stretched out IMHO. If you are with a relatively inexperienced one, they might be worried about getting stretched out too. One worry is that pain could be sign of infection. Just a caution.

[Member #4144]

My report might be a bit late, as I am still recovering from jetlag, but I thought I should still write up something, even though many might consider what I write the same old same old. Hey, I have no access to those Mongolians who do not come to Maggie's.

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I have been seeing Kitty mentioned a lot lately so the moment I got into BJ, I called her and ask if she has girls weight less then 45kg, she said sure thing, and I told her I need one later, very very late, and will get back to her later. I then went over to Maggie's at 9:30 to check in with the girls there. There are 25 tagged girls there and only 2 are slim, and total of 4 I would consider attractive. I showed up and at that early hours, they were all AVAILABLE, so I bought one drink each for the top two, H and K. I told them I will be back after dancing around 12:30.

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I then went to my usual salsa dancing in some club, and boy, was these place packed with people, it seems the whole city was out partying that night. I returned to Maggies about 1230 and boy, I could hardly squeez into that place. Just too many man for the fixed number of girls. Needless to say, my girls were busy, and actually, all of the tagged girls were, but many of the Mongolians were not, so I am not the only one noticing that they were old and fat, haha.

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Well, I had to wait for them, I guess, so I started to look at the Mongolians again. My rule for body shape is <45kg and can fit comfortably size 2 pants. There was just two like that, and making the rounds for 2000. I bought a drink for one and told her that if she would keep her price firm, I will take her, but will be very very late. At first she said no as I was Chinese, and I had to show her my US driver license and also to take her to another of her sister that I had done before to convince her that I am from the US. So some lesson for all your asian guys, Maggies is not a fair playground.

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I continued to wait for my girls and she continued to make rounds and smiled at me, so apparently not many takers for the sky high price that I promised. I had to have someone that night, man, and I have my standards.

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At 3:50, H came out of nowhere and dragged me to the dance floor and wrapped her arms around my neck to force me to dance with her, which was fine with me, as she was #2 hot tagged girls there and I didn't see many tagged girls dancing with their clients that way, and she didn't even ask me to buy her a drink! After we danced for a while, K (size 0 pants) also came and also just force herself into me and I had both arms holding them and no hand to help their short skirts that had been pulled up too high from the movement. Being a real gentelmen, we returned to a booth and I bought them champagne, and we played and we danced more and this lasted past 5AM and I was ready to leave, and then I found my Mongolian had found her willing customer, damn. Oh well, she actually was more like a size 4 pants anyway. So I returned to my hotel ALONE.

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By the time I got back to the hotel, it was 5:30 and I called Kitty, she picked up and said too late, nobody available now. I know, it is kind of late, huh. I then tried Angel, whom I had used about two month ago, also at odd hours. She picked up and said, <45kg at this hour, actually anybody at 6am would be very difficult, she would try anyway but told me quality would not be so good as other girls all had just gone to sleep a couple of hours ago. Well, she found someone anyway and the girl XiaoYue arrived at 6:30am.

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I found her waiting at the elevator as my hotel requires a key to go up. She was pretty, a 7 in face, a bit surpricing actually, as I was expcting the worst. She wore a big coat so I couldn't see her body, but since Angel said <46kg, I figure could not be too bad. The moment we were in the elevator, she was looking at me with a smile, that was a very good sign. Once inside my room, I turned on slow music and dance naked with her. I told her I had just showered so she said she better take one, and we continued to dance naked after she returned from shower. I tried to kiss her but she said no kiss, so I guess no-kiss starts around 7? Well, it was not a deal breaker for me, as she was otherwise really GFE. We then went to the big bed and started 69, no problem on the BBBJ. Actually, she was so high that she started licking me all over, up and down, licking my balls, licking my thighs, and I had put use my hands to catch the juice coming out of her pussy as I didn't want the bed to be all messed up. The no-kissing was also relaxed once I entered her, she was hiding her tongue behind her teeth and I didn't try to push her too much. After we finished, I noticed the scar on her tommy, so I had to give her a 6 for her body, as otherwise she was still slim. Maybe she can save some money to remove that scar as I couldn't tell otherwise that she had had a baby.

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With a happy smile, I gave her the 600 and went to sleep right away, not sure what was the time. Maybe next time I come to BJ, I can give these outcalls another try again at better hours, hahaha, but then, those damn Maggies girls were so hot and their dress so sexy and their dance moves so intoxicating, man, I just cannot have it both ways.

Fillmore

[Gualtier Malde]

Sometimes too big means too long. Hitting the cervix with your dick can be painful to a woman. I doubt any would truly complain about girth alone.

GM.


I've never had a WG here complain that I was too big (I reject the obvious implication that I am small) but a petite girlfriend I use to have here did. Most of the older WGs here are actually pretty stretched out IMHO. If you are with a relatively inexperienced one, they might be worried about getting stretched out too. One worry is that pain could be sign of infection. Just a caution.

[Stegram]

By the time I got back to the hotel, it was 5:30 and I called Kitty, she picked up and said too late, nobody available now. I know, it is kind of late, huh. I then tried Angel, whom I had used about two month ago, also at odd hours. She picked up and said, <45kg at this hour, actually anybody at 6am would be very difficult, she would try anyway but told me quality would not be so good as other girls all had just gone to sleep a couple of hours ago. Well, she found someone anyway and the girl XiaoYue arrived at 6:30am.

FillmoreGod I miss my 20s. I got sleepy just reading this. Fillmore you're my hero.

[Member #4144]

God I miss my 20s. I got sleepy just reading this.You guys may just take your time in China, but I travel to China usually only for a few days and BJ just one night, en route to return to the sex prison of the US of A, where I would have to spend months before this 50 year old kid can come back to the candy store.

Fillmore

[AddictedTozgnh]

This poster is absolutely correct. If you can invest the time, there are great (and cheap) adventures to be had in Beijing. Do your homework, be patient, be tolerant of the conditions of the establishment, don't be a jerk, and don't follow touts, ever.

Welcome to the board, Dillonb1950!

GMHere here! Beijing has a lot of cheap to free BBBJ / FS avail in MP or BBS but you have to get off the beaten track. Taking an hour or two to walk or bike around an area will reveal lots of playgrounds you didn't know were there. But of course, speaking (some) Chinese is a huge benefit, and will open doors much more quickly.

Addicted

[AddictedTozgnh]

Usually I order lily outcall girls, but this time with wife and kids in hotel. No outcall possible,

So I went to this "sauna" today, was not difficult to find, but how the hell did you find this place, I would never go there, if did not read it in here, hahaha.

Shower is 28 rmb, extra is either 500 or 900, I choose 500 rmb massage, which is blowjob and fuck.

Got a 25 year old named "liu yuan" from dongbei, north east China, with see-cups, nice and pretty.

Service was ok, no rush, blow, fuck in different possitions, no complains, just a bit rushed.

Paid 528 at exit counter and out on the street after total 45 min.

Thomas Jefferson.Went to check it out. Had a shower, skipped hot tub with smoking men, and directly upstairs for some fun. A guy working there took me aside asking what I wanted for massage while mimicking FS with his hands. He explained there's 6-9-14, so I started with the 600rmb. Service was good, with CBJ, and many positions. Just seemed too rushed. I guess I prefer the MP experience with girls I go back to and get GFE.

-Addicted

[Stegram]

You guys may just take your time in China, but I travel to China usually only for a few days and BJ just one night, en route to return to the sex prison of the US of A, where I would have to spend months before this 50 year old kid can come back to the candy store.

FillmoreMe too. My trips are usually 10 days / 5 cities. But I'm usually required to be.

Up at 8AM to go to meetings or make the next Train Plane or Taxi.

Actually. The best I've found for the wham bam 1 hr of excellent service is.

From the K-girls here in the USA. The price is $250 / hr which is steep by

China standards but for looks and performance I've not seen better.

[Member #4144]

Me too. My trips are usually 10 days / 5 cities. But I'm usually required to be.

Up at 8AM to go to meetings or make the next Train Plane or Taxi.

Actually. The best I've found for the wham bam 1 hr of excellent service is.

From the K-girls here in the USA. The price is $250 / hr which is steep by

China standards but for looks and performance I've not seen better.K-girls in the US? So it is not a sex prison in your neck of the woods then. I live far and away from places with lots of Chinese and maybe you live near one of those, like LA and such. Good for you, man. 250 / hr is unheard of, as usually outcalls for Asian girls of good quality would be 500 / hr, at least those were the numbers I got quoted when travelling in the US.

Fillmore

[Athoms111]

Hello,

I'm new to this forum, but very into all the topics which are discussed here. I like to think I have decent knowledge of the establishments around the area where I live as well as a growing list of Maggie's and other favorites.

I would love to contact with any of the senior members or others on email to share ideas on the best places?

Recently was in HK, and they have some apartment buildings. Almost every floor a pink light above the door. I wish I could find something like that in BJ! Sadly it's probably impossible as it is BJ.

I've lived in BJ for years now, and have fluent Chinese so negotiating and getting around are pretty easy for me.

Not sure how we go about contacting by email though?

[Gualtier Malde]

Hi Athoms111,

The best way to contact is to send, or ask for, private messages. Unless you are a Senior Member, you'll need to buy access for that I think.

Good luck.

GM.


Hello,

I'm new to this forum, but very into all the topics which are discussed here. I like to think I have decent knowledge of the establishments around the area where I live as well as a growing list of Maggie's and other favorites.

I would love to contact with any of the senior members or others on email to share ideas on the best places?

Recently was in HK, and they have some apartment buildings. Almost every floor a pink light above the door. I wish I could find something like that in BJ! Sadly it's probably impossible as it is BJ.

I've lived in BJ for years now, and have fluent Chinese so negotiating and getting around are pretty easy for me.

Not sure how we go about contacting by email though?

[Dynamic]

I've never had a WG here complain that I was too big (I reject the obvious implication that I am small) but a petite girlfriend I use to have here did. Most of the older WGs here are actually pretty stretched out IMHO. If you are with a relatively inexperienced one, they might be worried about getting stretched out too. One worry is that pain could be sign of infection. Just a caution.It's all just a ploy to get it over with asap. WG's think it's a compliment and that you won't be pissed off when they scurry out of there. Cross these complaining wingers off your list, simple as that and do some complaining of your own to the mama. Just another consequence of the shortage of good professional types in Beijing! These grizzlers wouldn't get work anywhere else.

[Priamos]

I'm writing these lines from Grand Hyatt Hotel in Beijing. I'm beginning to wonder about the service (well, service?) providers that circle around this hotel, as well as occasionally in the lobby. The last two nights I've been persuaded to book a WG with one of the mamasans roaming the roundabout in front of the hotel. In both cases, it has been a quite disappointing - and expensive - experience compared to most other Asian destinations.

Yesterday evening was a total flop. I was propositioned by a MILF offering me a yooooung gal in my room. OK, how much? 1000 RMB. I said that this sounded a bit expensive so she lowered it to 800 RMB. I accepted. 15 minutes later arrived to my room two quite good looking your women (20-23 yo I would say). I picked the taller of the two. The other one would not leave my room."Hey mister, you pay for two, you pay for twoooo.". In the end I gave her 50 RMB which was obviously what she wanted all along, so she scampered. My chosen one undressed as quickly as she could, brushing off any attempts of mine to caress her. She took a shower and came back to reveal a body full of amatereurish tattoos. I could not kiss her, she informed me. I could not touch her between her legs, she informed me. When I tried to kiss her f*ing shoulder she recoiled. When I tried to DATY her, she jumped out of bed. I gave up. OK, could she please give me a bit of BJ? No, she could not."Only included in normal price. 1000 RMB. You pay only 800, so no BJ". I went so far as even to suggest that I could pay the extra 200 RMB (GAWD I must have been drunk.) whereupon she immediately produced a condom. I protested that if I had to pay extra then surely (SURELY?) I didn't have to suffer the ignomy of a CBJ? Yes I did."I never do that. NEVER!" Well, at least I didn't pay her the last 200 RMB. I threw her out.

Of course we've all been victims of dishonest and scamming girls. What I want to know is. Is this standard among the girls outside Grand Hyatt? Are they all scammers? I ask because the one I picked up tonight (no details provided!) was a mite better than yesterday's. But not much. I don't want to waste money on "buying air" for the last three nights of my stay if that's how it always works at Grand Hyatt.

[BionicMan]

Hi Athoms111,

The best way to contact is to send, or ask for, private messages. Unless you are a Senior Member, you'll need to buy access for that I think.

Good luck.

GM.Everybody has to subscribe for PM, senior status doesn't get you the PM.

The subscription grants you the senior and the PM

[Beijing4987]

Never pay upfront and negociate the service and price BEFORE the clothes come off. At the door to your room. Then toss her out if you smell trouble. Remember it's ALWAYS abourt making you part with your money. More money better for her.

ANd bargain hard. Don't be shy!

BJ4987.


I'm writing these lines from Grand Hyatt Hotel in Beijing. I'm beginning to wonder about the service (well, service?) providers that circle around this hotel, as well as occasionally in the lobby. The last two nights I've been persuaded to book a WG with one of the mamasans roaming the roundabout in front of the hotel. In both cases, it has been a quite disappointing. And expensive. Experience compared to most other Asian destinations.

Yesterday evening was a total flop. I was propositioned by a MILF offering me a yooooung gal in my room. OK, how much? 1000 RMB. I said that this sounded a bit expensive so she lowered it to 800 RMB. I accepted. 15 minutes later arrived to my room two quite good looking your women (20-23 yo I would say). I picked the taller of the two. The other one would not leave my room."Hey mister, you pay for two, you pay for twoooo.". In the end I gave her 50 RMB which was obviously what she wanted all along, so she scampered. My chosen one undressed as quickly as she could, brushing off any attempts of mine to caress her. She took a shower and came back to reveal a body full of amatereurish tattoos. I could not kiss her, she informed me. I could not touch her between her legs, she informed me. When I tried to kiss her f*ing shoulder she recoiled. When I tried to DATY her, she jumped out of bed. I gave up. OK, could she please give me a bit of BJ? No, she could not."Only included in normal price. 1000 RMB. You pay only 800, so no BJ". I went so far as even to suggest that I could pay the extra 200 RMB (GAWD I must have been drunk.) whereupon she immediately produced a condom. I protested that if I had to pay extra then surely (SURELY?) I didn't have to suffer the ignomy of a CBJ? Yes I did."I never do that. NEVER!" Well, at least I didn't pay her the last 200 RMB. I threw her out.

Of course we've all been victims of dishonest and scamming girls. What I want to know is. Is this standard among the girls outside Grand Hyatt? Are they all scammers? I ask because the one I picked up tonight (no details provided!) was a mite better than yesterday's. But not much. I don't want to waste money on "buying air" for the last three nights of my stay if that's how it always works at Grand Hyatt.

[Viajando Musico]

I then went to my usual salsa dancing in some club, and boy, was these place packed with people, it seems the whole city was out partying that night. I returned to Maggies about 1230 and boy, I could hardly squeez into that place. Just too many man for the fixed number of girls. Needless to say, my girls were busy, and actually, all of the tagged girls were, but many of the Mongolians were not, so I am not the only one noticing that they were old and fat, haha. FillmoreMind sharing where is your usual salsa club? I was in Beijing recently for a few days and was looking for a salsa dancing club. I couldn't find anything unlike in Shanghai. Every club listed on internet is either closed or discontiued with salsa music. It made me wonder if Salsa is not popular in Beijing?

[Guitarrefreak]

I feel your pain brother, not a big fan of the mamasans out there.

YMMV, its a hit and miss. I have found the mamasans outside Shangri hotel (Chaoyang district) have connection to much sweeter girls (not that their services are exceptional, but at least feature wise much better).

And Shangrila price is at 600RMB, not the ridiculous 1k or 800 they ask. Repeat, you can start with 600.

I have also had an instance where I visited a foot massage, and this middle aged woman introduced me to a girl who is her neighbor, very sweet, somewhat experienced girl, very wet, and spent the night with me, she did not even ask for money, but I paid her 300 since that was all I had.


I'm writing these lines from Grand Hyatt Hotel in Beijing. I'm beginning to wonder about the service (well, service?) providers that circle around this hotel, as well as occasionally in the lobby. The last two nights I've been persuaded to book a WG with one of the mamasans roaming the roundabout in front of the hotel. In both cases, it has been a quite disappointing. And expensive. Experience compared to most other Asian destinations.

Yesterday evening was a total flop. I was propositioned by a MILF offering me a yooooung gal in my room. OK, how much? 1000 RMB. I said that this sounded a bit expensive so she lowered it to 800 RMB. I accepted. 15 minutes later arrived to my room two quite good looking your women (20-23 yo I would say). I picked the taller of the two. The other one would not leave my room."Hey mister, you pay for two, you pay for twoooo.". In the end I gave her 50 RMB which was obviously what she wanted all along, so she scampered. My chosen one undressed as quickly as she could, brushing off any attempts of mine to caress her. She took a shower and came back to reveal a body full of amatereurish tattoos. I could not kiss her, she informed me. I could not touch her between her legs, she informed me. When I tried to kiss her f*ing shoulder she recoiled. When I tried to DATY her, she jumped out of bed. I gave up. OK, could she please give me a bit of BJ? No, she could not."Only included in normal price. 1000 RMB. You pay only 800, so no BJ". I went so far as even to suggest that I could pay the extra 200 RMB (GAWD I must have been drunk.) whereupon she immediately produced a condom. I protested that if I had to pay extra then surely (SURELY?) I didn't have to suffer the ignomy of a CBJ? Yes I did."I never do that. NEVER!" Well, at least I didn't pay her the last 200 RMB. I threw her out.

Of course we've all been victims of dishonest and scamming girls. What I want to know is. Is this standard among the girls outside Grand Hyatt? Are they all scammers? I ask because the one I picked up tonight (no details provided!) was a mite better than yesterday's. But not much. I don't want to waste money on "buying air" for the last three nights of my stay if that's how it always works at Grand Hyatt.

[Bad Boy Billy]

I was in Beijing recently for a few days and was looking for a salsa dancing club. I couldn't find anything unlike in Shanghai. Every club listed on internet is either closed or discontiued with salsa music. It made me wonder if Salsa is not popular in Beijing?Here ya go mate. Salsa Caribe

4 Gongtibei Lu, across the street from the Loft. Tel. 6507-7821.

Newly remodeled! The club offers the largest hardwood dancefloor in the city. The band Sabor Latino from Venezuela plays every night. A house DJ spins the latest upon the 900 square meters of double deck space, with a state of the art sound and light system. Definitely the largest salsa club in China, and the place to be seen if you are a salsero. Open every day.

[Gualtier Malde]

I must be grandfathered in then.

Edit: Reviewed the FAQ just to be sure, on the assumption that maybe the rules had changed. Nope. Senior Members automatically get the PM system, you don't need to subscribe, just earn Senior Membership (see the FAQ). Subscribers get the added benefit of Photo Gallery and Stealth Mode.

GM.


Everybody has to subscribe for PM, senior status doesn't get you the PM.

The subscription grants you the senior and the PM

[FernandoAlonso]

Here ya go mate. Salsa Caribe

4 Gongtibei Lu, across the street from the Loft. Tel. 6507-7821.

Newly remodeled! The club offers the largest hardwood dancefloor in the city. The band Sabor Latino from Venezuela plays every night. A house DJ spins the latest upon the 900 square meters of double deck space, with a state of the art sound and light system. Definitely the largest salsa club in China, and the place to be seen if you are a salsero. Open every day.I knew Billy has a share in this club after his remarkable dance presentation and Brazilian hip moves he displayed last time only to impress my GF, to no avail of course.

But serious, the girls there are almost all ugly and non pros and if you love latin music come before midnight, before music changes to weird disco. But Maggies is close as are some freelance hunting grounds for the younger more handsome generation.

FA

[Priamos]

many thanks to beijing and guitarre for their responses. well, the continuation of my story is, on day two i was approached by a second mamasan and, having learnt from the first day's experiences, i said ok with 800 rmb, but only if oral is included. she promised to send a girl to my room 20 minutes later and, in fact, when i arrived to my room 14 minutes later a young girl (20 yo, a tad tubby) was pacing the corridor together with a bellboy. she was aware of the mamasan's promised and gave me an uninspired blowjob, but for the rest of the action lay totally passive in bed. the one redeeming factor was, she was clearly a peasant girl straight from the sticks, so her freshness was somewhat inspiring.

today (in fact 2 hours ago) i went to a third mamasan. she interrupted me before i had said a peep about price / quality: "yes, sorr. 800 rmb and blowjob. no problem. and no more stiff girl in bed. should i send young girl to room xxxx?" er? er? if i ever needed any confirmation that the mamasans work for the same company, there it is! i confirmed that i wanted a girl who accepts caresses and takes her time. 15 minutes later a 22 yo (she said. my guess is 27) girl arrived and she had clearly received instructions. every now and then she would whip a piece of clothes off, then clearly think "ooops" and turn slowly to me and caress my chest, my cheek or my. i asked if she kisses. she said "ah, well, a little bit". i handed her 200 rmb and said "this should make it big, i hope?". (i know it's childish but i so need fk for the foreplay.) she nodded and kept her promise. even so, each time during the act i approached her lips she first reflexively moved her head, then thought for 1/2 second and responded to my kiss. it could not have been clearer that she was a low-end provider who had been instructed to be extra nice to me.

morale: one can get an acceptable service even at grand hyatt. but it is not cheap. and one needs to bang on the table.

[Sky Ryder]

Here ya go mate. Salsa Caribe

4 Gongtibei Lu, across the street from the Loft. Tel. 6507-7821.

Newly remodeled! The club offers the largest hardwood dancefloor in the city. The band Sabor Latino from Venezuela plays every night. A house DJ spins the latest upon the 900 square meters of double deck space, with a state of the art sound and light system. Definitely the largest salsa club in China, and the place to be seen if you are a salsero. Open every day.The breadth and depth of your knowledge never ceases to amaze me. I am truly humbled to even share the same "mongering board" in your presence.

So now when we finally catch up the first TWO rounds are on me! You really do need to get your happy ass down to Chang Ping and let me "show you around a little".

[Member #4144]

I knew Billy has a share in this club after his remarkable dance presentation and Brazilian hip moves he displayed last time only to impress my GF, to no avail of course.

But serious, the girls there are almost all ugly and non pros and if you love latin music come before midnight, before music changes to weird disco. But Maggies is close as are some freelance hunting grounds for the younger more handsome generation.

FAYou are basically right, Caribe only has a few advanced dancers and other mostly older and beginners type and yes, Salsa stops at midnight. People find that place first as it opens for salsa every night, and on some nights, it is the only game in town. Definitely no WG in this place but I usually go there before heading over to Maggie's as some of us are actual salsa dancers.
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A better spot with younger and better looking dancers is Suzie Wong's, but it has latin music on Tues only. This place definitely have good looking pros lurking around, but clearly have "No Chinese" written on their forehead, so I didn't even bother to ask for their rates, and I suspect 2500 or higher.
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Fillmore

[Member #4144]

many thanks to beijing and guitarre for their responses. well, the continuation of my story is, on day two i was approached by a second mamasan and, having learnt from the first day's experiences, i said ok with 800 rmb, but only if oral is included. she promised to send a girl to my room 20 minutes later and, in fact, when i arrived to my room 14 minutes later a young girl (20 yo, a tad tubby) was pacing the corridor together with a bellboy. she was aware of the mamasan's promised and gave me an uninspired blowjob, but for the rest of the action lay totally passive in bed. the one redeeming factor was, she was clearly a peasant girl straight from the sticks, so her freshness was somewhat inspiring.

today (in fact 2 hours ago) i went to a third mamasan. she interrupted me before i had said a peep about price / quality: "yes, sorr. 800 rmb and blowjob. no problem. and no more stiff girl in bed. should i send young girl to room xxxx?" er? er? if i ever needed any confirmation that the mamasans work for the same company, there it is! i confirmed that i wanted a girl who accepts caresses and takes her time. 15 minutes later a 22 yo (she said. my guess is 27) girl arrived and she had clearly received instructions. every now and then she would whip a piece of clothes off, then clearly think "ooops" and turn slowly to me and caress my chest, my cheek or my. i asked if she kisses. she said "ah, well, a little bit". i handed her 200 rmb and said "this should make it big, i hope?". (i know it's childish but i so need fk for the foreplay.) she nodded and kept her promise. even so, each time during the act i approached her lips she first reflexively moved her head, then thought for 1/2 second and responded to my kiss. it could not have been clearer that she was a low-end provider who had been instructed to be extra nice to me.

morale: one can get an acceptable service even at grand hyatt. but it is not cheap. and one needs to bang on the table.gee, looks like my out call experiences were much better, was it just that i was lucky?

fillmore

[Viajando Musico]

Here ya go mate. Salsa Caribe

4 Gongtibei Lu, across the street from the Loft. Tel. 6507-7821.

Newly remodeled! The club offers the largest hardwood dancefloor in the city. The band Sabor Latino from Venezuela plays every night. A house DJ spins the latest upon the 900 square meters of double deck space, with a state of the art sound and light system. Definitely the largest salsa club in China, and the place to be seen if you are a salsero. Open every day.Thanks BBB and the others for the info. I found this club salsa Caribe on internet as well, so call them around 9PM on 2 nights when I was in town (Nov. 8-12). Got the machine saying the phone is disconnected. Wonder why? I double checked the phone # and it was correct as you enlisted above. In Shanghai I normally went to the Mural on Hen ShangRd close to Xujiahui on Monday night, and it was always packed, but not a place for picking up WG's.

[Member #4144]

Thanks BBB and the others for the info. I found this club salsa Caribe on internet as well, so call them around 9PM on 2 nights when I was in town (Nov. 8-12). Got the machine saying the phone is disconnected. Wonder why? I double checked the phone # and it was correct as you enlisted above. In Shanghai I normally went to the Mural on Hen ShangRd close to Xujiahui on Monday night, and it was always packed, but not a place for picking up WG's.For the future, if you are really a salsa guy, then I suggest you join 17salsa. Net, as that is THE place to find all salsa clubs in China.

And definitely No for picking up WGs in salsa clubs, that is for sure.

Fillmore

[Viajando Musico]

Spent 4 days in Beijing 2 weeks ago. The impression I got about Beijing at this moment is unlike before, things are very quiet and discrete. Massage places are everywhere but all are only doing legitimate massage, no extra is given. When I somehow managed to find places that still do, they were all asking ridiculous prices. A massage place inside a 3-star hotel that I went to in Chaoyang district, girl was asking 400 Yuan extra for a HJ on top of 680 Yuan of massage section and a 15% service fee. After lots of haggling, she finally agreed to do it for 100 Yuan. But my final bill still came out a little shy of 1000 Yuan, and that was for a HJ. Some taxi drivers offered to take me to places a little out of the city where FS sauna style by young Chinese girl can be had for 400 Yuan, but the time and efforts involved didn't fit my schedule.

I was in Shanghai before coming to Beijing and it was a big contrast. Things are well and alive in Shanghai. Just a little digging, one can find everything he wants, not the case in Beijing. I did go to the infamous 'Maggie's' club, and liked it. Though most of the Mongolian girls are not all that attractive to me, there were a few cuties in the mix. Also went to Chocolate on one night, and found girls, both Mongolian and Chinese there are on the younger side and many Russian who are working under pimps. In boith clubs, girls won't approach you, you have to make the first move.

To sum up, Beijing is not a good mongering destination since so many other cities in China offer better value, but being the capital, there is something else, some uniqueness about the city that you won't find elsewhere. I know I have to come back here for my business, but I won't complain about it.

[Viajando Musico]

For the future, if you are really a salsa guy, then I suggest you join 17salsa. Net, as that is THE place to find all salsa clubs in China.

And definitely No for picking up WGs in salsa clubs, that is for sure.

FillmoreThanks Fillmore, will try that and see what I can find. When I went to a salsa club in China, it was mostly to enjoy the latin music. Though it is not a bad idea if we could mix club with latin theme and girls in Maggie's in one place. I haven't yet found one in China. The La Havana in Manila, Philippines comes very close.

[SmithyChen]

I went to Maggies and it seems like as though none of the girls are interested even if I offer a slightly higher price. I have no idea how it works there, do I have to buy a drink? Or do they only serve caucasian men? I am an overseas Chinese, is this the problem?

Cheers, if anyone can help me.

[Mr Roboto]

BJ resident here, and am able to report that the usual options here are still available, if somewhat muted and hidden from public view. Maizidian, Jianguomen, and outcalls are still available choices, though expect to pay about twice the price for half the looks as in Shanghai and down south. Unfortunate.

Not being into the small shops myself, does anyone have any good recommendations for top shelf saunas in BJ? I've tried a few with good results but always looking to check out some new places.

[Thomas Jefferson]

2 weeks ago I went to wangjing by subway.

Next to subway station is a big living complex, houses are numbered from around 405-425 (something like that).

The ground floors to the street side have many restaurants, incl. One germany beer bar, which was closed in the afternoon.

If you enter the complex, there are more restaurants, playground and a few massage places, all written in Chinese and korean only. No english there and no any western foreigners to be seen.

I entered one massage place (I think in house 407 or 405?) , quoted massage for 168, 90 min.

In the room it was fast obvious that massage is only 2nd choice, the girl offered me FS for 500 extra, which I got down to 500 incl massage fee.

Standart FS followed, CBJ, some DATY, and after a bit of massage, which was not really worth it.

It is a bit far outside, took some time to go there, but there are a few shopping malls and nice restaurants.

Worth visit the area for a change.

Thomas Jefferson


This was just updated (from my MAY 2011 report) to correct an error. What I listed as Bldg 417 should be Bldg 419.

This area is a playground for those looking for pretty Ok massages with HJ / HE. All places are legit massage parlors where some go for regular massages including foot massages. But I think most of their biz is male customers looking for a little extra. Except for one place listed below that offers breast massages, the menu is the same at all: regular massage + HE. Individual girls may offer extras depending on if they like you or their own preferences. Most will allow breast fondling and removal of bra (but usually not take shirt off). A few will allow their outer pants to come off or at pull them down a bit to expose their panties. None have on-site sex as standard service, though I was offered this once. It's not unheard of that some providers will offer more services or sex if they come to your apartment or hotel. Best to go the place in person for on-site service. If you think a girl has potential for more, you can try your luck with a home visit. Often when the massage is done at an off-site location the girls will strip down to their panties or be nude. [LOCATION: the entrance of SI QU (400s) area is near the new Wangjing Subway station-new extension line from Wangjing West. By car, go from Si Yuan Qiao along Jing Mi Road, turn Left at second road after Fourth Ring Road (Guangshun South St; go about 4 blocks until you pass the big shopping mall HUA LIAN (with big ZARA sign) on left. It's the next corner-turn right and you are at entrance to SI QU (400s) and this gate of SI QU is opposite the Wangjing subway]

The 400s area (Si Qu)

405; Just down the street from the famous 419 Bldg. Both 405/419 are just inside the WJ New Town complex's gate that is close to Guangshun S. St, near the corner that has a Starbucks / Nirvana. As you go in this gate. 419 is to the right. 405 to the left (down the street a few buildings). It's on the first floor with a door to the MP right at side of building closest to street. Can't miss it. So 405 is one of the top places in this WJ MP scene in my opinion. The nicest setup inside in terms of rooms and general look of the place. They typically have great girls that are attractive and have a good attitude. There was a large turnover recently and I'm not sure about the lineup of the current team.

419 (a) : Massage Parlor in basement. Just to right of main entrance to building is the stairway to the basement. Good reliable service with HJ & HE standard. RMB160 or so. One hot girl that I know: No. 78.

419 (be) : To the left of main entrance and just to the right of a restaurant called TERRACE is the entrance to a 2nd floor Massage Parlor. Outside entrance has a maroon colored awning with Korean characters on it. Go up to second floor. A very clean and attractive setup. HJ & HE standard. RMB160 or so. Breast massage for RMB300. The few times I've been there were 2 very nice girls. They have 2 style rooms: massage table and double bed. Make sure you.

418: Massage Parlor in basement. Good reliable service with HJ & HE standard. RMB160 or so.

Overall, I've found 419 to be a more attractive space and the girls are generally better at 419.

421: There is advertisement for a Massage Parlor on the 1st floor, Rm 109. Never checked it out.

The 300s area (San Qu)

303: My favorite place in the 300s area. Well-managed, light, and clean. The lineup there is OK. One hottie: No. 6. It's on floor 1, just inside the lobby of main entrance and to the right. There's actually another massage place straight ahead (need to go through the passkey door) , but I never tried it.

325: It's on floor 1, just off the main lobby, straight ahead to the left. Not so many girls, but a few nice ones. But of course they always change. Had some luck with FS on outcall with one, but it varies from girl to girl. FS is not a standard service.

323: Newly opened. Went there once and found it disappointing. Not well trained provider and a bit old. Small shop with limited selection. It's on floor 1, room 103.

[Mr Roboto]

I went to Maggies and it seems like as though none of the girls are interested even if I offer a slightly higher price. I have no idea how it works there, do I have to buy a drink? Or do they only serve caucasian men? I am an overseas Chinese, is this the problem?The non-Chinese will not go with you because you are Chinese. However, if you speak the language, the much cuter Chinese girls will gladly hang out with you. Their drinks are pricey, but if you hit it off they can meet up with you on the outside.

[Member #4144]

I went to Maggies and it seems like as though none of the girls are interested even if I offer a slightly higher price. I have no idea how it works there, do I have to buy a drink? Or do they only serve caucasian men? I am an overseas Chinese, is this the problem?

Cheers, if anyone can help me.Yes, as I had recently reported, Maggies girls mostly only serve white guys, but if you (being Chinese looking) didn't even buy her a drink, then definitely just forget about it. I know they are mostly old and fat, but ocationally there might be one doable and you need to do the following (for being Chinese, myself included) :

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1. Give her a smile and walk away, you need to show that you are not desparate. Maybe repeat a couple of times.

2. See her and smile again and politely offer her a drink, and don't even ask what she likes, as the bar already know and she expects you to know.

3. Once you both have the drinks, then produce some evidence of you being overseas. Driver license, credit cards etc, and also very important, to show her the key to your hotel room and it better be one of the 5 star hotels near-by. Believe me, they know all these hotels, but if not such hotels, also just forget about it, they won't go with a Chinese looking man to some strange new place.

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The above always work for me, Maggies or other places in China and Hong Kong where English speaking WGs don't want to go with a local for fear of either undercover cop or prearranged robbery.

Also, gain some weight, as I was told by one WG afterwards that I looked really fit, looked too much like a cop, hahaha.

Fillmore

[WildHawk]

The non-Chinese will not go with you because you are Chinese. However, if you speak the language, the much cuter Chinese girls will gladly hang out with you. Their drinks are pricey, but if you hit it off they can meet up with you on the outside.If you are referring to the Maggie's bargirls, I would assure that you would find non-success after hours. Perhaps if you're young, handsome and what she might see as marriage material you might get on after a long courtship. I did befriend a Chinese girl at the Sanlitun Starbucks (mentioned in one of my many earlier postings long ago) who would later get a job at Maggie's. She was quite open to a romp, but as she was a bit on the chunky side and had awful, awful teeth I had no interest in the pursuit. I was shocked to see that her claim of getting a job at Maggie's was true; she did have a great personality and looked cute at first glance, with her hair made up just so. There was another Maggie's cutie, a Yi-Bai mix from Kunming, that I did pursue with one nice dinner (otherwise I did not make a big investment, monetarily or mentally) and a charm offensive. Got nowhere fast and knew it.

So, any posters who have succesfully bedded a bargirl at Maggie's can offer hope, but I prolly wouldn't buy into the notion.

[Mcavity]

If you are referring to the Maggie's bargirls, I would assure that you would find non-success after hours. Perhaps if you're young, handsome and what she might see as marriage material you might get on after a long courtship. I did befriend a Chinese girl at the Sanlitun Starbucks (mentioned in one of my many earlier postings long ago) who would later get a job at Maggie's. She was quite open to a romp, but as she was a bit on the chunky side and had awful, awful teeth I had no interest in the pursuit. I was shocked to see that her claim of getting a job at Maggie's was true; she did have a great personality and looked cute at first glance, with her hair made up just so. There was another Maggie's cutie, a Yi-Bai mix from Kunming, that I did pursue with one nice dinner (otherwise I did not make a big investment, monetarily or mentally) and a charm offensive. Got nowhere fast and knew it.

So, any posters who have succesfully bedded a bargirl at Maggie's can offer hope, but I prolly wouldn't buy into the notion.In my early Beijing days, now many moons ago when Maggies was at the Worker's Stadium location, I took a fancy to a really cute Maggies girl. Liu Qian. Who although DongBei was extremely petite. Any really old hands remember her? The sight of her bum bending over the pool table was one to behold. And she knew it! I managed a few dinners with her. Usually before she clocked in for duty. And then one day back to my place. She seemed slightly offended that I was living by myself in a spacious apartment but was happy to fool around for a couple of hours without any significant sexual progress on my part, then she suggested we popped out to buy her a computer to "help with her studies". The writing was getting larger on the wall, I told her to forget it and there ended a beautiful (non) relationship. All part of my Beijing learning curve. 10 years on Maggies girls still seem to operate in the same way.

[Chu Xiang Yu]

Hi guys,

This is my first posting so far on Beijing. Visited Roman Holiday and YLSH in Yanjiao, it seems the place has been recently raided by police and you won't be getting any action there anymore. Manage to get a happy ending only when I get the cab driver to introduce me to a place where the WGs are now operating in apartments. When I get there there is only one girl and the look is a 5 and the service a 5 too. The price is pretty expensive at RMB400. I actually thought of refusing the FS but there were 2 tough looking guys there waiting for my answer and I am in their place! So I just did it and leave.

Pretty boring in beijing nowadays. Been here 2 months and haven't have much action besides getting FS in some massage parlours for maybe about 3 times and pretty pricey too. Local non-working girls here seems to get excited and eager to meet up only with foreign looking foreigners. I look and speak like a local, so dam tough gettting to know any of them. Maybe I look like a labourer.

I just thought if any ISGs here would like to get together and maybe try out some of the KTVs here. Not sure if it is a good idea. I think KTV girls here should be good looking. We don't have to go to KTVs in Chao Yang district. I heard that most KTV girls in Yanjiao has move to another place and we could go there although a bit far from Chao yang.

If there is anyone who would like to get together let me know.

Yu out.

[SmithyChen]

Yeah, as a very fluent speaker of mandarin, I get recognized regularly as a local or Korean. I'm not the type to go all showy with English just to prove I'm a foreigner. Perhaps it'd be better to only speak English in the future? I think of some of the Maggies Mongolians are quite cute, the type I like. I'd love it if someone can some me the ropes around here.

I get far better success rates in clubs and bars back home compared to China with non working girls, quite a bit of positive discrimination towards caucasians going around here it seems.

[Member #4144]

.So, any posters who have succesfully bedded a bargirl at Maggie's can offer hope, but I prolly wouldn't buy into the notion.Yes, I don't think this is possible. The only chance that a Maggie's girl will do that is when she was ready to quite Maggies, for whatever reason, since Maggies managment makes it crysal clear to all the girls that meeting a customer outside, even on off-days, will result in immediate termination. I keep in contact with a couple and they tell me the firing happened once in a while, as management just need to "think" it happend and the girl will be fired and this scare the hell out of the rest.

On my last trip, while buring herself in my arms in the small booth, my girl said that the worst part of her job was that she really wanted to spend the night with me, but she couldn't. She said these words not as a result of my pushing, as I already no longer made such fruitless requests to ruine the moods.

Fillmore

[Raskob]

Yes, I don't think this is possible. The only chance that a Maggie's girl will do that is when she was ready to quite Maggies, for whatever reason, since Maggies managment makes it crysal clear to all the girls that meeting a customer outside, even on off-days, will result in immediate termination. I keep in contact with a couple and they tell me the firing happened once in a while, as management just need to "think" it happend and the girl will be fired and this scare the hell out of the rest.

On my last trip, while buring herself in my arms in the small booth, my girl said that the worst part of her job was that she really wanted to spend the night with me, but she couldn't. She said these words not as a result of my pushing, as I already no longer made such fruitless requests to ruine the moods.

FillmoreThat's weird as I just met a Maggie's girl on her off day earlier this week and today I was chatting with her manager and he (perhaps jokingly I dunno) suggested we should be having dinner together before dhe goes to work so I can help her with her English.

[Mr Roboto]

If you are referring to the Maggie's bargirls, I would assure that you would find non-success after hours. Perhaps if you're young, handsome and what she might see as marriage material you might get on after a long courtship.

So, any posters who have succesfully bedded a bargirl at Maggie's can offer hope, but I prolly wouldn't buy into the notion.It is possible but not easy. A few things to keep in mind when trying to get with a Maggie's bar girl.

First, keeping men company and playing games with them is a popular and accepted form of Chinese entertainment. Someone who walks into the place and sees everyone as being part of a giant buffet are already on the wrong foot, because the girls will take offense to being lumped in with actual working girls.

Second, most of the girls are small or western towns, and though liberal in comparison to others, are still very traditional. That means, among other things, that they are not usually attracted to foreigners. Sorry, but true. You up your chances 5-fold by being ethnically Chinese, and 10-fold if you speak it. Also remember as a foreigner you are one in a sea of white dudes they see daily.

Third, the girls are full-time employees. Their job is to make you feel awesome for a 8 hour shift of drinking, then they go brush their teeth and go to bed. So unless they want to be fired, they won't just up and walk out on their job to get with some john at 2am. You'll have to actually make friends with them and get past the professionally-honed act they put on to make guys think they are the coolest, most handsome dude ever, and all they want to do is jump into your pants if you'd only buy them one more orange martini.

Lastly, I was shocked to learn the range of how much some of these girls made. Let's just just say that older one who dances for champagne makes about twice the average American. So forgive them if they don't jump all over a couple Maos waved in their face.

I can personally attest that it's possible to make friends with them and go on dates and bring them home like normal girls. Even as a foreigner. Just not on a wham-bam time schedule, and not as easy as offering to pay for it. Just make sure you get them back to work on time because yes they will get fired for being late.

Not easy, but the alternatives are the sad-looking Mongolians. And the post about playing hard to get with a hooker? Seriously?

[Member #4144]

That's weird as I just met a Maggie's girl on her off day earlier this week and today I was chatting with her manager and he (perhaps jokingly I dunno) suggested we should be having dinner together before dhe goes to work so I can help her with her English.Ok ok, I had been fooled by these girls, and you are a damn lucky guy as I didn't know anyone can take actually take these girls to bed (met on her day off should definitely lead to that).

Fillmore

[WildHawk]

It is possible but not easy. A few things to keep in mind when trying to get with a Maggie's bar girl.

I can personally attest that it's possible to make friends with them and go on dates and bring them home like normal girls.Well congratulations, Mr. Roboto, nasty Styx song notwithstanding, to your bedding a Maggie's bar girl, caveats and all. My experience, and the anecdotal evidence from numerous postings on this board suggest your success may be a lottery-style win, so I wanted to point out a newbie's serious misconception. Senior posters and serial Maggie's hands, please chime in here. Now perhaps Mr. Roboto you are young, handsome, well-endowed, moneyed or just a good gamer, so more power to you and I eagerly await your future postings. But if your Mandarin is as good as you suggest I wonder why you'd even bother with the Maggie's bar girls, really. So many, many totally hotter "legit" KTV beauties in China are playing a similar game. I would hazard that at least 15- percent of the young professional women riding the tube look as good as the lasses in Maggie's, so you ought to be able to chat them up and get them in the sack much, much quicker, more easily and more cheaply. And you'd need not mess with the alcoholism (yes, it is a problem with some of the Maggie's tag girls. I am of the understanding that their drinks are not watered down, and I have heard enough of their bellyaches about their bellyaches or liver problems) to boot. Seriously, I don't think the Maggie's girls conversational ability is all that, and the bar succeeds more because of the "sad eyed", as you say, Mongolians plying their trade. Actually, you ought to see how sad (or at least bloodshot) my eyes are when I leave Maggie's empty-handed.

[Raskob]

Ok ok, I had been fooled by these girls, and you are a damn lucky guy as I didn't know anyone can take actually take these girls to bed (met on her day off should definitely lead to that).

FillmoreWell I didn't say I took her to bed. But hanging out outside of work didn't seem to be a big no-no at least.

[Member #4144]

Well congratulations, Mr. Roboto, nasty Styx song notwithstanding, to your bedding a Maggie's bar girl, caveats and all. My experience, and the anecdotal evidence from numerous postings on this board suggest your success may be a lottery-style win, so I wanted to point out a newbie's serious misconception. Senior posters and serial Maggie's hands, please chime in here. Now perhaps Mr. Roboto you are young, handsome, well-endowed, moneyed or just a good gamer, .Maggie's do fire a bar girl once in a while for going out with a customer, so it is not only possible but actually happenning, hahaha. There are some success out there, that is for sure. On the other hand, of the 20+ girls there, I found only 4 that I would spend money on, so overall, I would say quality of these girls are far from typical KTV lineups. So you are right, Mr Wildhawk, if one has time in BJ and money to spend, it is far better to go with KTV girls, but what is the challenge on that? It is the forbidden that brings out the true heros.

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Fillmore

[WayneGrow]

Does anyone have an inkling where the the BBS from Chunxiu Lu moved to after they closed it down?

There was quite an attractive girl working there, usually wearing a red dress.

Any information would be appreciated.

[Fifty Shades]

Was in town again a couple of weeks ago. In HK, the bar scene is so active you can spend all evening having fun with the WGs and choosing one that clicks.

Much less so in Shanghai, but still better than BJ. In BJ, my experience in the bars has been spotty, mainly because I don't stay late, I like slim girls and I won't lower the bar below at least a 7 in looks. Unless you spend a lot of time in BJ, it is difficult to find the good BPs and MPs. So, that leaves the delivery services, which are relatively cheap (600). Previously used Angel and have always been satisfied. This time I tried Escort China just for a change. Sent someone cute, professional looking (uh, different profession) .24 yrs, perfect Chinese doll. Great attitude, unrushed. I would say GFE if your girlfriend doesn't speak English. Besides missing the action at the bar, that's the main downside I find for the services. The girls generally don't speak more than a few words of English. On the upside, you can get delivery service at 8PM, which is great for the jet lagged and the early workers. Tried EC a second night, and the girl was only 20 and looked and dressed like a moonlighting college student. Told me I looked almost old enough to be her father and I thought she was going to change her mind. Expected me to do most of the work, but she warmed up and it ended ok. Afterwards, took a walk down Wanfujing, where I was approached by several SWs, none of whom were better than a 5. 1-2 thumbs up for EC.

Had the pleasure of meeting Sammy T and friends for the first time on that trip.

[Member #4144]

Was in town again a couple of weeks ago. In HK, the bar scene is so active you can spend all evening having fun with the WGs and choosing one that clicks.

Much less so in Shanghai, but still better than BJ. In BJ, my experience in the bars has been spotty, mainly because I don't stay late, I like slim girls and I won't lower the bar below at least a 7 in looks. Unless you spend a lot of time in BJ, it is difficult to find the good BPs and MPs. So, that leaves the delivery services, which are relatively cheap (600). Previously used Angel and have always been satisfied. This time I tried Escort China just for a change. Sent someone cute, professional looking (uh, different profession).24 yrs, perfect Chinese doll. Great attitude, unrushed. I would say GFE if your girlfriend doesn't speak English. Besides missing the action at the bar, that's the main downside I find for the services. The girls generally don't speak more than a few words of English. On the upside, you can get delivery service at 8PM, which is great for the jet lagged and the early workers. Tried EC a second night, and the girl was only 20 and looked and dressed like a moonlighting college student. Told me I looked almost old enough to be her father and I thought she was going to change her mind. Expected me to do most of the work, but she warmed up and it ended ok. Afterwards, took a walk down Wanfujing, where I was approached by several SWs, none of whom were better than a 5. 1-2 thumbs up for EC.

Had the pleasure of meeting Sammy T and friends for the first time on that trip.-

Great Report, me too, like slim girls (<45kg) and at least 7 in looks, and indeed, very difficult in BJ. I think the 600 price point from Angel etc makes it very difficult to deliver this type of girls, I wonder if EC can provide more expensive girls? I would much rather paying more for the type of girls I really want.

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I also absolutely agree with you that HK is a lot more fun with the action and flirting in the bars. Maggie's just don't have the type of girls typically found in Wan Chai, ok the some of the tagged girls are good, but we all know they are off limit for the follow through actions.

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Fillmore

[Seekingals]

Hi, Chinese Food, Did you ask the lady's name who answered the telephone?

Was she Kitty?

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As far as I know, Kitty is the Mama of an Out-Call agency called Escort China.

To confirm it, check my #391 post on 'Classified Ads' thread under 'China' Forum please

To see if they (Kitty and Escort China) have the same contact.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1203788#post1203788

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And could you share the names of the two girls you mentioned?

I'll try them soon as I'm going to Beijing again in about a week's time.

On my last trip around two months ago, I had a really great time

With Kitty's two talents both having huge boobs assets: Lin Lin and Nina,

Especially the former. Afterwards, someone strongly recommended

Another Kitty's girl: Yao Li, And I'll surely try her to see if she's really so good.

Hope Kitty has the same good performance this time, even better.

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Seekingals.


Was in town again a couple of weeks ago. In HK, the bar scene is so active you can spend all evening having fun with the WGs and choosing one that clicks.

Much less so in Shanghai, but still better than BJ. In BJ, my experience in the bars has been spotty, mainly because I don't stay late, I like slim girls and I won't lower the bar below at least a 7 in looks. Unless you spend a lot of time in BJ, it is difficult to find the good BPs and MPs. So, that leaves the delivery services, which are relatively cheap (600). Previously used Angel and have always been satisfied. This time I tried Escort China just for a change. Sent someone cute, professional looking (uh, different profession).24 yrs, perfect Chinese doll. Great attitude, unrushed. I would say GFE if your girlfriend doesn't speak English. Besides missing the action at the bar, that's the main downside I find for the services. The girls generally don't speak more than a few words of English. On the upside, you can get delivery service at 8PM, which is great for the jet lagged and the early workers. Tried EC a second night, and the girl was only 20 and looked and dressed like a moonlighting college student. Told me I looked almost old enough to be her father and I thought she was going to change her mind. Expected me to do most of the work, but she warmed up and it ended ok. Afterwards, took a walk down Wanfujing, where I was approached by several SWs, none of whom were better than a 5. 1-2 thumbs up for EC.

Had the pleasure of meeting Sammy T and friends for the first time on that trip.

[Kajos]

I've been looking for other places for cheap FS since the recent raids in wang jing. Been going instead to a couple more legit-looking massage places with hour massage and happy ending for 200 kuai, mostly along the Haidian and Chaoyang border, between 4th and 5th ring road. But these have also been raided in the last three weeks and closed down. Recently found another pink-light hair salon open late. Two girls in the shop when I visited. The older one probably over 30 with great tits, younger one just under 30 and great legs, nice tits too, both long straight black hair. First quote was 200 kuai for HJ, add 200 for BJ, FS for 500. Finally bargained down to 600 for 2-on-1 with FS with one girl and BJ / deep throat the other one. Both girls active in threesome, good attitudes, like to laugh, used to wham bam style fucking. When I walked in they quoted 1000 for outcall. When I left they said would be happy to do 500 for outcall. Can probably bargain them down to 300 plus taxi for outcall. PM me for location and phone number if interested. There was another salon a few doors down with younger looking girls but I liked the naughty vibe of the girls in the place I visited.

[Kajos]

What kind of prices you paying at the saunas recently? Any clues on which ones you like?


BJ resident here, and am able to report that the usual options here are still available, if somewhat muted and hidden from public view. Maizidian, Jianguomen, and outcalls are still available choices, though expect to pay about twice the price for half the looks as in Shanghai and down south. Unfortunate.

Not being into the small shops myself, does anyone have any good recommendations for top shelf saunas in BJ? I've tried a few with good results but always looking to check out some new places.

[SmithyChen]

Me and my friend went down Baiziwan Road again, where there were around 5 massage parlours and one shoddy BBS.

After quite a bit of walking and looking out the window, there really wasn't much to be had. The BBS was filled with old girls who were gaining weight. Some of the massage parlours perhaps had a few 5 or 6s. The prices quoted were 100 for HJ. 200 Boobjob. The one FS for 400 place had been taken down already. None of the girls would go home, didn't bother asking the BBS.

It's near Houxiandaicheng for people interested.

I had another Angel's girl but couldn't remember the name. I think she was perhaps around 25ish and had the typical black hair with a bit of a fringe covering the face. Around 5'3 tall, solid B cup breasts. Great talker and gave quite a good GFE experience comparatively to regular WGs. Talked more than having sex, did not watch the clock at all. If anyone else had a similar one, then please tell me the name.

[BuilderBoss]

welcome this time to leave those constant (and boring) maggie's reports and get some interest in real mongering.

for a start, there is still this excellent older report:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-north-china-beijing&p=962872&viewfull=1#post962872

besides i would definitely add anhua lu as well as huangsi dajie around the corner to the west. on anhua lu there is one shop at the beginning opposite of the kfc at the northern end, then on the eastern side down the road you will find another 3-4 bbs, whose selection / service differs slightly. some have more experienced gals offering full service, others younger ones who you have to discuss with what exactly is on the menu. prices range from 100-400 after haggling down.

at the southern end of anhua lu just turn west on waiguanxie jie and keep on walking down this street on the northern side. you will see 3-4 bbs, but i haven't checked what exactly they offer. one lady there offered out-call as well, but wanted 500. it's all depending on the situation, as usual.

then, when u-turn north at the next corner you can observe some pretty busy out-call providers getting in and out of taxis on the opposite side (west) of gulou waidajie. there is a pretty posh hotel and ktv next to it. i asked the taxi drivers, but they could only arrange out-call for some 600 and that's way over what should be the limit!

for another nasty experience nearby, you can check out the bbs at this corner with fresh southern gals:

http://g.co/maps/nbgqu

in this area there are so many bbs and saunas rep001tered around, which will cater any wish. this being my first post i will continue writing on my experience with saunas, when some interest is gathered here. sorry for my english!


i've been looking for other places for cheap fs since the recent raids in wang jing. been going instead to a couple more legit-looking massage places with hour massage and happy ending for 200 kuai, mostly along the haidian and chaoyang border, between 4th and 5th ring road. but these have also been raided in the last three weeks and closed down. recently found another pink-light hair salon open late. two girls in the shop when i visited. the older one probably over 30 with great tits, younger one just under 30 and great legs, nice tits too, both long straight black hair. first quote was 200 kuai for hj, add 200 for bj, fs for 500. finally bargained down to 600 for 2-on-1 with fs with one girl and bj / deep throat the other one. both girls active in threesome, good attitudes, like to laugh, used to wham bam style fucking. when i walked in they quoted 1000 for outcall. when i left they said would be happy to do 500 for outcall. can probably bargain them down to 300 plus taxi for outcall. pm me for location and phone number if interested. there was another salon a few doors down with younger looking girls but i liked the naughty vibe of the girls in the place i visited.

[Kajos]

Walked in late to check out prices and got quoted 200 for HJ. 500 for FS. Or 500 for HJ at my place. I said no, all too expensive and then the price dropped to two girls FS for 400. Both girls were mid-30s, but once the clothes came off were not good looking at all, and one had a bad attitude, so I walked out.

[Fifty Shades]

Right you are! The lady who picked up at EC didn't answer "Hello, Kitty", but it is the same phone number you gave for kitty. Their website is the "blog" site. I wonder if all the provider phones are picked up by the same 84 yr old grandma at a call center in India. The one I would recommend is Feng Feng. Better looking and better attitude. The other one I tried who needed to be warmed up was something like Bin Bin.


Hi, Chinese Food, Did you ask the lady's name who answered the telephone?

Was she Kitty?

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As far as I know, Kitty is the Mama of an Out-Call agency called Escort China.

To confirm it, check my #391 post on 'Classified Ads' thread under 'China' Forum please

To see if they (Kitty and Escort China) have the same contact.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1203788#post1203788

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And could you share the names of the two girls you mentioned?

I'll try them soon as I'm going to Beijing again in about a week's time.

On my last trip around two months ago, I had a really great time

With Kitty's two talents both having huge boobs assets: Lin Lin and Nina,

Especially the former. Afterwards, someone strongly recommended

Another Kitty's girl: Yao Li, And I'll surely try her to see if she's really so good.

Hope Kitty has the same good performance this time, even better.

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Seekingals.

[Fifty Shades]

As you will see in my other reply, EC turns out to be the same as kitty. I've had good luck with both Angel and EC / kitty, at the same price. My guess is that performance depends more on the girl than the particular agency. The key thing that may differentiate the agencies is how responsive they are to fixing a poor experience, which can happen to anyone. Angel told me once that she had higher priced girls available but they were only available after 2 AM because they worked at other jobs. Possibly tagged girls at bars?


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Great Report, me too, like slim girls (<45kg) and at least 7 in looks, and indeed, very difficult in BJ. I think the 600 price point from Angel etc makes it very difficult to deliver this type of girls, I wonder if EC can provide more expensive girls? I would much rather paying more for the type of girls I really want.

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I also absolutely agree with you that HK is a lot more fun with the action and flirting in the bars. Maggie's just don't have the type of girls typically found in Wan Chai, ok the some of the tagged girls are good, but we all know they are off limit for the follow through actions.

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Fillmore

[Mr Roboto]

What kind of prices you paying at the saunas recently? Any clues on which ones you like?I haven't seen any good recommendations on this board lately or in answer to my question. There are a few that (I think) are well-known and worth repeating.

There is the one on Maizidian near the FX Hotel which I've found to have the best service. The massage is a real massage that you might consider paying for, and is included in the 1398 package. Not really a sauna though.

There is also the one near Paddy O Sheas that is fairly obvious. You will need to be a member of the club, and it runs about 1200 for the entry ticket and service. Includes access to a fairly nice sauna downstairs where a Chinese man can scrub you from head to toe for 62 extra if you want to be extra clean. Hygiene is ok by foreign standards.

Any others? I'm willing to try a few out if someone wants to points to the right direction.

[Jopj1]

What kind of prices you paying at the saunas recently? Any clues on which ones you like?Well the situation is a little bit complicated. A lot of them have closed down in our usual playground turf. As I don t have time (and motivation) to leave the guomao-sanlitun-sanyuanqiao triangle, I would say that there are still a few around that charge between RMB 1000 to RMB 2000 (sky-rockeeting real estate prices clearly impact the pricing) but the quality is half the price of what they have in Shanghai, caveat emptor.

Happy to read about other members experience.

[LuluChina]

Is there anyone who wants to go to top shelf sauna or KTV together?

I'd love to accompany with forum members.

[Gualtier Malde]

In a departure from my usual severely downscale village MP experiences, I tried some of the more upscale MPs in the CBD area recently. I have found several in the area very near China World, walking distance from the Guomao subway station. Most appear to be legit and clean massage places, but seem to offer various extras, depending on the place. Some are more overt in what they will over than others. At one place, I knew it would be beyond the normal MP experience when they showed me a menu of services with girls' photos, and one menu entry offered a "two girl massage".

I was very pleasantly surprised to find these businesses. The places were clean enough to be, at least at the room level, equivalent to the Sauna experiences I've had both here and in Shanghai (but with no spa area, of course). The quality (face / body) of the masseuses however is all over the map. I think at least some of these services can be as fulfilling as any sauna experience, possibly for less money (depending on your negotiating skills).

I suggest checking out the various MPs you can find in buildings such as the Sun Thirty apartments, and perhaps you'll find something interesting in the Van Palace Towers. Some are just standard spas, others are "special". They are not on the street, they are inside the buildings, in office suites. Most are walk-in, and open 24 hours. All seem to include a real massage as part of the package, which is nice.

Note though that most will ask a high amount for the "tip", so be prepared for hard negotiation to even get the price down to something you won't be embarrassed about later.

PM for contact info. (I reserve the right not to respond to those with low post counts or no contribution to the board.)

GM.

Ps: I tried the "two girl" massage at one place. For straight massage, it is heavenly to have four hands at once. But for extra services, the extra girl is too much baggage. It is very difficult to strike a hard bargain when it is two on one, and once they start delivering services, it isn't really "double the pleasure", especially on massage tables. I don't recommend that offering.

[Seekingals]

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Thanks guy. Hope this two talents are still available on my trip late this week.

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Seekingals.


Right you are! The lady who picked up at EC didn't answer "Hello, Kitty", but it is the same phone number you gave for kitty. Their website is the "blog" site. I wonder if all the provider phones are picked up by the same 84 yr old grandma at a call center in India. The one I would recommend is Feng Feng. Better looking and better attitude. The other one I tried who needed to be warmed up was something like Bin Bin.

[LuluChina]

Well,

I will be at Beijing on Dec. 6th 8th too. Can we meet together to visit this place?


Thanks guy. Hope this two talents are still available on my trip late this week.

Seekingals.

[Tieji]

Well the situation is a little bit complicated. A lot of them have closed down in our usual playground turf. As I don t have time (and motivation) to leave the guomao-sanlitun-sanyuanqiao triangle, I would say that there are still a few around that charge between RMB 1000 to RMB 2000 (sky-rockeeting real estate prices clearly impact the pricing) but the quality is half the price of what they have in Shanghai, caveat emptor.

Happy to read about other members experience.I agree. This is not, unfortunately, not the best moment for trying the sauna scene in Beijing. The on again, off again crackdown that's been around since April 2010 is back on again, rather putting a damper on things.

One worrying rumour doing the rounds (heard from staff at a certain well-known sauna not a million miles from the Kempinski) is that the powers that be in Chaoyang District have decided they want eventually to get rid of all such establishments (ie, saunas offering FS). They are, therefore, gradually applying the screws ever tighter, making it harder and harder for these places to make money. When there's a crackdown on, the saunas either refuse customers, or only offer plain vanilla massage, or offer full services only sporadically (eg, very late at night or very early afternoon). Not surprisingly, the girls make little or no money and some quit (they work entirely on commission) , the owners make little money either, and customers get sick of all this, or scared of raids, and stay away, even when things relax again for a while.

I pass this depressing rumour on for what it's worth. Even if it's not a concerted campaign to squeeze these places out, it's kinda having that effect. Sigh.

[Chu Xiang Yu]

Hey Luke,

Enola and me would like to join you to a KTV or a sauna. Tried to PM you but unable to do that. Let us when you arrived in Beijing.

Yu

[SteelBaton]

back in bj for a week of business and a few afternoons / nights of pussy chasing. last trip i had good luck with a girl from angel when i was staying at the ritz and so she was my first thought. before arrival i called her from my home country to make sure i had her current number and let her know i was coming. she didn't remember me from adam, but thats ok. on arrival i got my new sim card and starting texting with her and with china escorts / kitty about what was available for a monday afternoon. i was pretty damn specific about my wish list: 18-22, slim / skinny, pref less than 45 kg, pale skin, bbbj and otherwise great service. ohh, also big tits (might as well ask!) angel got back to me quickly with a couple of ideas while china escort spent 3 sms's trying to figure out what my history with them was. kinda made me nervous as i'd prefer to think that i am not being recorded in some computer database.

all of ce's offerings were either a little old or wouldn't do bbbj. i am picky and i suppose if i was happy with a 25 yr with a little more weight, kitty would have been able to find someone.

in the end i went with "fang fang" (an aside. why do some many of these girls use double names?"lou lou","fei fei","ling ling". i think i can count on one hand the number of chinese girls i've had that only used one name!)

fang fang [/i]

described by angel as:

40 kgs (88 pounds in old money)

158 cm (about 5' 1"")

19 yrs old.

very pretty.

hubei province.

small breasts.

600 rmb including taxi.

after asking for the name of hotel, my family name, and room number. she promised to send fang fang to my room in a 5 star hotel at 4:30 pm when i'd finished my meetings. surprisingly she arrived 15 minutes early while i was still showering. angle rang me back and the girl came back to the room. i was happy to see that she'd had no problem getting to my room as the hotel is 5* and one is greeted no less than 5 times by hotel staff between entering the front door and the elevator bank.

fang fang is killer cute with stylishly cute reddish black hair, a very pretty face with fashion-forward green glasses (they are just for looks, no rx). i undressed her and was pleased to find a very tight young body with predictably small a+ breasts, but with big eraser type nipples, dark. i was thinking of sharing a hot bubble bath with her but she was most defiantly not doing that. omg, huge danger to her hair! so she showered and came out in a towel. i scoop her up and just for fun put her on the bathroom scale. sure enough, exactly 40 kgs.

she was playing shy and crawled under the covers while i climbed in and sucked her tits and stretched her nipples a bit which she didn't seem to mind. i didn't try to kiss her, but i am pretty certain she wasn't into that. she was rubbing her pussy and i gave her an extra hand there before pulling back the sheet and have a more thorough fingering. she has a tight cu*t but with very nice large lips and a fair sized clit which peeked out a few times as i licked her teenage pussy, dripping clear juice. she was rubbing her tits and making some good moaning sounds, but i got bored trying to make her cum.

after much prompting and flashing an extra 100 rmb i got her to do a bbbj which was only about a 6/10. (spat once on the carpet and i nearly slapped her. i mean this is my bedroom not the sideway!) she got better as time went on but still didn't really have her heart in it. so i laid her out, spread those thin legs, open those big fleshy lips and slipped my dick just barely into her wet cutn. her eyes opened a bit wider as i put my arms under her legs and reached forward to pin her upper arms in place. slowly, making sure she was ok i moved my cock into her until her eyes told me to stop. we worked at this for a few minutes before she was comfortably handling me. i didn't want to hurt her and took it easy. then i thought we try cowgirl, but i didn't want to come out of her so i leaned back and lifted her in the air as i fell to my back allowing her to settle on my cock with all her 40 kgs. that was a mistake as she cried out and pushed herself off me. too deep!

she got off and then surprisingly moved to doggy, which i generally think of as the position where a girl gets the most penetration and therefore is reluctant with a bigger guy. but every girl's anatomy is a little different and she seemed to like it better this way which was cool by me as i almost always prefer to finish pushing the cushion, not that she had much of an ass. she put her tits on the bed, arched her back and her ass was high and proud with those big furrly lips dangling below. i pounded that tiny ass for like 10 minutes with my hands streached around her waist so thin that my finger tips almost touched. finally exploded inside her and she jumped up and cleaned up. not a lot gfe cuddling with this one. but a great fukcing of a super nice teenage body with pretty face.

conclusion:

face: 8. 5/10.

body: 9/10.

tits: a / b, but nice big nips.

service: 7/10.

gfe attitude: 7/10.

wir: maybe, it is rare to find such an attractive spinner here in bj and with another visit, the service and attitude might improve.

damage: 600 + 100 for bbbj + 100 tip = 800

[SteelBaton]

Thought I'd add this quickly. If you are in Beijing for a short time then you need a Chinese SIM card to communicate with girls and others cheaply via sms. If you already have a smart phone you may want to get a card for that phone so that you have everything on one phone and have the advantages of a dataplan so you can surf the net. Very handy for looking up addresses or using the iPhone map to see where you are and where the taxi driver is taking you.

If so, I have learned that you want to get a China UniCom SIM as they have the best 3G network for your iPhone. If you get China Mobile you are getting more like 2G or slower and it doesn't work reliabily. The fastest way to get this that I have found. And there maybe better options. Is to go directly to a China Mobile Store with your passport and get someone to put the SIM in your phone (they will need to cut it to fit the mini-sim format).

In other cities you may want another carrier. Rates and services seem to vary widely between say Shanghai and Beijing and Guandong. I just know this works for Beijing.

[SteelBaton]

As noted in my previousl posts I am currently in Beijing. I have RTFF and last night went on a crusade, make that, a search for a Mongolian of some youth. Can anyone point me in a better direction than the Pig or Maggies? Does anyone know of a good outcall service that handles Mongolians? Would seem there is a market for everything in this town.

[LuluChina]

I am in Beijing right now.

Stay in new grand daynasty hotel near Kempihski hotelll.

QUOTE=Chu Xiang Yu; 1224017]Hey Luke,

Enola and me would like to join you to a KTV or a sauna. Tried to PM you but unable to do that. Let us when you arrived in Beijing.

Yu[/QUOTE]

[LuluChina]

Well, I am in Beijing and get back to hotel about 9PM today.

Can we meet at 10PM today or tomorrow?


Hey Luke,

Enola and me would like to join you to a KTV or a sauna. Tried to PM you but unable to do that. Let us when you arrived in Beijing.

Yu

[Faguoren]

In a departure from my usual severely downscale village MP experiences, I tried some of the more upscale MPs in the CBD area recently. I have found several in the area very near China World, walking distance from the Guomao subway station. Most appear to be legit and clean massage places, but seem to offer various extras, depending on the place. Some are more overt in what they will over than others. At one place, I knew it would be beyond the normal MP experience when they showed me a menu of services with girls' photos, and one menu entry offered a "two girl massage".

I was very pleasantly surprised to find these businesses. The places were clean enough to be, at least at the room level, equivalent to the Sauna experiences I've had both here and in Shanghai (but with no spa area, of course). The quality (face / body) of the masseuses however is all over the map. I think at least some of these services can be as fulfilling as any sauna experience, possibly for less money (depending on your negotiating skills).

I suggest checking out the various MPs you can find in buildings such as the Sun Thirty apartments, and perhaps you'll find something interesting in the Van Palace Towers. Some are just standard spas, others are "special". They are not on the street, they are inside the buildings, in office suites. Most are walk-in, and open 24 hours. All seem to include a real massage as part of the package, which is nice.

Note though that most will ask a high amount for the "tip", so be prepared for hard negotiation to even get the price down to something you won't be embarrassed about later.

PM for contact info. (I reserve the right not to respond to those with low post counts or no contribution to the board.)

GM.

Ps: I tried the "two girl" massage at one place. For straight massage, it is heavenly to have four hands at once. But for extra services, the extra girl is too much baggage. It is very difficult to strike a hard bargain when it is two on one, and once they start delivering services, it isn't really "double the pleasure", especially on massage tables. I don't recommend that offering.Hi Gualtier,

Sorry for not being a frequent contributor as also I am not a big "hobbyist". This is only my second contribution so far and the first one on the Beijing forum.

However, I have been trying a bit of the MPs you are talking about and the first one you are mentioning (it is on the 18th floor straight in front of the lift's doors) has been on my list for a while already.

I tried it many times and they have a "kidney massage" on their list. The price is almost 500.

If you take that service with the girl No 6 in the VIP room, you will get a quite good 45mn full body oil massage with a wonderfull HJ. If you ask the girl to get naked whilst she start touching your little bro, she will do it providing you "tip". She typically ask for a 300 extra, the thing is that after agreeing on it, I had a BBBJTCCIM! Really enjoyed it (very good technique to my taste) and the girl has a body I really love (petite, nice B cup, slim and I love fingering her and touching everywhere!).

I also once get FS with the same girl. She has no plastic bag available in the place. You have to take your own with you and she will agree only after she knows you (after a few visits). She asks for another 200 extra (total damage is 1000 if you take the FS option.). General mark is body 8, face 6, service 8, attitude 9.

I did not try the other girls of the place so far but it looks like the choice is not too bad.

Shower available before and after the service, very clean facility, globally good service IMO.

Hope my report is usefull.

Have fun! Be safe!

[LuluChina]

Finally I tried this and satisfied it.

Date : Dec. 6th.

Place : new grand dynasty hotel 3F KTV.

Name : ryujja from Jangsu province.

Age : 24.

Service : DFK (very good) , BBBJ, Doogy, CG.

Body : 7/10.

Face : 8/10.

Height : 166cm or higher.

Damage : 1000 + taxi 100 RMB two shop through over night.

1000 for drink. 200 tip for waiter. 300 for the girl charge.

Total : 2, 600 RMB.

I tried to find good sauna in Beijing but the sauna is really dead in Beijing. So that I just try this.

KTV. I called them up and book a room for me.

Went up to 3F by escalator and welcome by Mr. Song (waiter)

He led me to small room and showed about 10 girls. The 3rd line of girls are quite pretty,

It was hard to pick one of two pretty girl. I chose black hair girl name ryujja.

Several beers and one bottle of whisky with fruits and teas with Karaoke. We sang about 40 minutes and.

Drank together and kissing, touching, etc.

About an hour and half later, we went to the hotel room led by another waiter.

Room was quite clean and well accomodating I mean there were two bottle of beer, water, hot tea and.

Fruits for refreshing. (this is quite good after sex.)

She is really good kisser I mean it really GF minded girl, very soft and sweat.

She gave me nice licking and BBBJ for a while and I gave her DATY until she said stop

She really enjoy it and wet

After very very nice sex she pour me a glass of beer which was excellent

We shower together and drink beer with fruits and chat using google translator. (I love technology)

Overall, it was very nice KTV with reasonable price.

I attached the name card and girl picture by her acceptance.

[Member #4144]

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Conclusion:

Face: 8. 5/10.

Body: 9/10.

Tits: A / B, but nice big nips.

Service: 7/10.

GFE attitude: 7/10.

WIR: maybe, it is rare to find such an attractive spinner here in BJ and with another visit, the service and attitude might improve.

Damage: 600 + 100 for BBBJ + 100 tip = 800Lucky guy, very rare to get BBBJ from a girl so young and so slim and pretty, that is truely amazing, man, and for just 800. I wonder if there any other such girls in BJ via any venue. Forget about the Mongolian, that is for sure, they are all over 50kg.
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Great report, thanks for the feedback, I hope I will have a chance to meet this girl when I come over next month.
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Fillmore

[Chu Xiang Yu]

Hey Enola,

You reading this? What time you want to meet up with Luke? Hey luke please PM me know your Beijing phone number so we can stay in contact. What time will you be free today?

[FernandoAlonso]

Lucky guy, very rare to get BBBJ from a girl so young and so slim and pretty, that is truely amazing, man, and for just 800. I wonder if there any other such girls in BJ via any venue. Forget about the Mongolian, that is for sure, they are all over 50kg.


FillmoreMate,

You are so wrong in all these claims. Totally wrong. Yes it is rare get such a girl for 800 because it is totally overpaid. And there are MANY Mongolian 40kg spinners AND as advantage to their Chinese sisters they have tits and ass.

Fillmore I appreciate your reports mainly in other sections but on Beijing and Mongolians you are totally wrong.

No offence.

FA

[SteelBaton]

After a refreshing afternoon fling with my most recent teenager, I decide to try some of the bars for pick-up girls. I started at the Pig and Thistle around 10:30. For newbies, it is a small bar with maybe 25 stools and a dozen cocktail tables connected to the Lido hotel. The place was half full with the bar seats taken by a mix of punters and WLs. The first thing that struck me was that most of the WL were at least late 20's most early-mid 30's. Must have been a dozen women, all but may be 2 were Chinese. The other 2 were early 30's Mongolian. They look very good and I really wanted to meet their younger sisters! I generally prefer girls in their early 20's. Service is often less than perfect GFE but I like the younger bodies and don't like any flabby stomachs, which are often a side effect of age and babies. But the girls were all friendly and it looked like a fun place if you wanted a little playful conversation. But I left for Hollywood at 11:30.

Hollywood: I have never been there so showed the drive the driver the MobileNative directions for Old Absent where I understand Hollywood has moved. That was a disaster, very difficult to find for my driver. Stopped several times down dead end streets. Meter was up to 40+ by the time I think we found it. When we got to what looked like the entrance, at least from the MobileNative picture, I asked the driver to wait (gave him a 100 rmb and prayed that he won't ditch me) while I check it out. Went down some stairs, turned left and could see a bar with mirrors beyond a lady sitting at a desk selling 80 rmb entrance tickets. It was pretty much dead silent in the bar but I couldn't see the main room to the right. Tried to convince the lady to let me have a free look, but I speak no Chinese and that wasn't happening. So I paid the 80 rmb and went into to find a totally dead bar at 12:30 pm with 4 girls who looked mid-30's probably dark haired Russians, none the least bit attractive to me. So I left the bar. Did I have totally the wrong place? Or just the wrong night?

Fortunately driver was still waiting for me and took me the short distance to Maggies. This was my first time there. Very nice vibe to the place, nice live band. I can see why it is popular. It was pushing 1:30 am by now and as I looked around I didn't see anything that caught my fancy . Lots of older ladies (by my twisted defination, I suppose). I think it might be better on a night other than Monday?

So overall, a strike out. Tuesday night I'll try my luck again as I am keen to try a Mongolian. Just need to find those younger sisters.

[LuluChina]

Sorry but I can't use PM and cannot put my cell number due to forum rule.

Is it OK to put my number?


Hey Enola,

You reading this? What time you want to meet up with Luke? Hey luke please PM me know your Beijing phone number so we can stay in contact. What time will you be free today?

[Member #4144]

Mate,

You are so wrong in all these claims. Totally wrong. Yes it is rare get such a girl for 800 because it is totally overpaid. And there are MANY Mongolian 40kg spinners AND as advantage to their Chinese sisters they have tits and ass.

Fillmore I appreciate your reports mainly in other sections but on Beijing and Mongolians you are totally wrong.

No offence.

FASorry, I am sure you are right and you know places and ways that we don't, please share the info, as this board is for sharing.

I only know about going to Maggies to find them and as SteelBaton just reported, I only see older Mongolians who already had babies with a bigger middle section. The only way I know about finding 40kg 19 year old is KTV, which is usually a much more expensive undertaking, so 800 that includes the taxi cost for the gril is a great deal in my book.

Fillmore

[FernandoAlonso]

Mate,

Please send me a pm fast before I am out to the motherload. And yes this board is for sharing but as mentioned before there is a reason a very good one for most seniors to currently keep a low profile.

And 800 for an outcall girl is pure BS, as are most of the current reports that are purely fictional. I said most, maybe there is the exceptional gem in the rough but the gals or services promoted here go for less than 300 to their regular customers, locals, korean, Japanese.

Sure if you happy pay as you want but I think it is still only fair to know the real price. I do Chinese for in average 200 ST and always with BBBJ and 40kg Mongolia spinners for 1000 LT, never paid more, all from Ms.

Just saying and I am neither handsome, nor experienced, nor a a womaniser nor a brilliant negotiator.

Just my experiences.

FA


Sorry, I am sure you are right and you know places and ways that we don't, please share the info, as this board is for sharing.

I only know about going to Maggies to find them and as SteelBaton just reported, I only see older Mongolians who already had babies with a bigger middle section. The only way I know about finding 40kg 19 year old is KTV, which is usually a much more expensive undertaking, so 800 that includes the taxi cost for the gril is a great deal in my book.

Fillmore

[SteelBaton]

Quick afternoon report: was at an extremely boring conference today so I spent the morning texting with the four outcall / escort providers who's numbers I have: Angel, Kitty / China Escorts, Maria, Lily. I was mostly interested in finding a young Mongolian for an afternoon tryst. Lots of back and forth with Kitty – who speaks great English – ended in nought as after inspection, the Mongolian she had available didn't meet my needs. However, Lily came through with a great girl:

Xiao Yun

22 yrs.

154 cm. 43 kg.

A cup.

Sichuan.

She arrived on time and we shared a little food in my room from the hotel club floor restaurant. She has a pretty young face (but not as cute as Angel's girl yesterday) , teeth could use some work, but overall very nice. Undressed her in my room after some food and drinks and let her shower first. She enjoyed such a long shower that I had to drag her out of there after about 5 minutes. Very sweet girl. Beautiful light white and soft skin. Her body has not one centimetre of fat anywhere. Her ass is pretty nicely proportioned for an Asian. Tits are very small but sensitive and nice. (I'll always take a slim tight body over big tits and a jelly belly). She does a very willing BBBJ with pretty good technic but can't really handle more than about 2 inches in her mouth. Very sensitive and tight little pussy with dark lips. Usual range of positions. With a little grimacing from her as we finished in doggy. She stayed and cuddled until I was ready to get up. She hit the shower, for another 5+ minutes – she must love hot water! Should have tried the bubble bath with her.

Scores:Face: 7/10.

Body: 9/10 (if you are ok with small tits)

Tits: A

BBBJ: 8/10 by Chinese standards.

FS: 9/10.

Attitude: 9/10.

Service: 8/10.

WIR: absolutely.

Damage: 600 + 200 tip (probably excessive tip)

Conclusion: Best fukc of the month by far. Best body of the last 6 months – as far as a very tight young thing. If you are interested in a young hard body with a great sweet attitude you'd be hard pressed to go wrong with her. Only possible downside for some might be small tits and I know some guys like girls with more meat on them. I tipped her 200 and she grabbed a note pad to insure that I knew that the price was 600 and that I'the paid 800: how often does that happen? Also Lily did a good job, her English is not great but good enough. She fairly represented Xian Yun with the possible accidental mistake of saying she had 'big tits"

So I have tried both Angel (several times) and Lily with good results. Accurate descriptions of girls, great looking girls, on time or early. Had better experiece with Lily's girl this visit but that might have just been the chemistry. I'd recommend both Angel and Lily.

[Canada]

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quick afternoon report: Was at an extremely boring conference today so i spent the morning texting with the four outcall / escort providers who's numbers i have: Angel, kitty / china escorts, maria, lily. I was mostly interested in finding a young mongolian for an afternoon tryst. Lots of back and forth with kitty – who speaks great english – ended in nought as after inspection, the mongolian she had available didn't meet my needs. However, lily came through with a great girl:

xiao yun

22 yrs.

154 cm. 43 kg.

A cup.

Sichuan.

She arrived on time and we shared a little food in my room from the hotel club floor restaurant. She has a pretty young face (but not as cute as angel's girl yesterday) , teeth could use some work, but overall very nice. Undressed her in my room after some food and drinks and let her shower first. She enjoyed such a long shower that i had to drag her out of there after about 5 minutes. Very sweet girl. Beautiful light white and soft skin. Her body has not one centimetre of fat anywhere. Her ass is pretty nicely proportioned for an asian. Tits are very small but sensitive and nice. (i'll always take a slim tight body over big tits and a jelly belly). She does a very willing bbbj with pretty good technic but can't really handle more than about 2 inches in her mouth. Very sensitive and tight little pussy with dark lips. Usual range of positions. With a little grimacing from her as we finished in doggy. She stayed and cuddled until i was ready to get up. She hit the shower, for another 5+ minutes – she must love hot water! Should have tried the bubble bath with her.

scores:face: 7/10.

Body: 9/10 (if you are ok with small tits)

tits: A

bbbj: 8/10 by chinese standards.

Fs: 9/10.

Attitude: 9/10.

Service: 8/10.

Wir: Absolutely.

Damage: 600 + 200 tip (probably excessive tip)

conclusion: best fukc of the month by far. Best body of the last 6 months – as far as a very tight young thing. If you are interested in a young hard body with a great sweet attitude you'd be hard pressed to go wrong with her. Only possible downside for some might be small tits and i know some guys like girls with more meat on them. I tipped her 200 and she grabbed a note pad to insure that i knew that the price was 600 and that i'the paid 800: How often does that happen? Also lily did a good job, her english is not great but good enough. She fairly represented xian yun with the possible accidental mistake of saying she had 'big tits"

so i have tried both angel (several times) and lily with good results. Accurate descriptions of girls, great looking girls, on time or early. Had better experiece with lily's girl this visit but that might have just been the chemistry. I'd recommend both angel and lily.

[Member #4144]

As noted in my previousl posts I am currently in Beijing. I have RTFF and last night went on a crusade, make that, a search for a Mongolian of some youth. Can anyone point me in a better direction than the Pig or Maggies? Does anyone know of a good outcall service that handles Mongolians? Would seem there is a market for everything in this town.Maybe you can PM FernandoAlonso?

Fillmore

[Member #4144]

Mate,

Please send me a pm fast before I am out to the motherload. And yes this board is for sharing but as mentioned before there is a reason a very good one for most seniors to currently keep a low profile.

And 800 for an outcall girl is pure BS, as are most of the current reports that are purely fictional. I said most, maybe there is the exceptional gem in the rough but the gals or services promoted here go for less than 300 to their regular customers, locals, korean, Japanese.

Sure if you happy pay as you want but I think it is still only fair to know the real price. I do Chinese for in average 200 ST and always with BBBJ and 40kg Mongolia spinners for 1000 LT, never paid more, all from Ms.

Just saying and I am neither handsome, nor experienced, nor a a womaniser nor a brilliant negotiator.

Just my experiences.

FA-

I have sent you PM. I am quite interested in the 1000 40kg Mongolia spinners, ST or LT for that matter. Thanks in advance, man, you are the king to have access to young and slim Mongolian talents. Stay low profile is fine, and maybe we, the less seniors, have been saying too much.

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I will pass on the 200 ST, as I believe you get what you pay for. I usually have only one night in BJ and I stay in ChaoYang Guomao area and I want the girl to come back to my 5 star hotel, and she will need to dress properly to walk through the elevator etc, so I don't think it is remotely possible to have any quality girl coming through this way at anything less then 500.

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Fillmore

[Member #4144]

Finally I tried this and satisfied it.

Date : Dec. 6th.

Place : new grand dynasty hotel 3F KTV.

Name : ryujja from Jangsu province.

Age : 24.

Service : DFK (very good) , BBBJ, Doogy, CG.

Body : 7/10.

Face : 8/10.

Height : 166cm or higher.

Damage : 1000 + taxi 100 RMB two shop through over night.

1000 for drink. 200 tip for waiter. 300 for the girl charge.

Total : 2, 600 RMB.

I tried to find good sauna in Beijing but the sauna is really dead in Beijing. So that I just try this.

KTV. I called them up and book a room for me.

Went up to 3F by escalator and welcome by Mr. Song (waiter)

He led me to small room and showed about 10 girls. The 3rd line of girls are quite pretty,

It was hard to pick one of two pretty girl. I chose black hair girl name ryujja.

Several beers and one bottle of whisky with fruits and teas with Karaoke. We sang about 40 minutes and.

Drank together and kissing, touching, etc.

About an hour and half later, we went to the hotel room led by another waiter.

Room was quite clean and well accomodating I mean there were two bottle of beer, water, hot tea and.

Fruits for refreshing. (this is quite good after sex.)

She is really good kisser I mean it really GF minded girl, very soft and sweat.

She gave me nice licking and BBBJ for a while and I gave her DATY until she said stop

She really enjoy it and wet

After very very nice sex she pour me a glass of beer which was excellent

We shower together and drink beer with fruits and chat using google translator. (I love technology)

Overall, it was very nice KTV with reasonable price.

I attached the name card and girl picture by her acceptance.Great report! And that hotel is in ChaoYang too, close to all the hotels we like to stay, wonderful. You are very lucky to pick just one girl and she turned out to be great. I usually have to seat at least two and then pick the more friendly one to go home with me. So let me get this staight, as the pricing seem really cheap for BJ.

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1. Girls run 300/1300? 300 to seat and total 1300 to take out? Can take the girl out to another hotel in ChaoYang area?

2. Room charge (minimum) only 1000 and only tip 200 to one server, usually a Princess or a DJ, correct?

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This is amazing, I didn't know BJ has this type of inexpensive ktvs.

Fillmore

[Chu Xiang Yu]

Hey Fernando,

Where do you get FS for RMB200 in Beijing nowadays? You can't even get it in BBS which offer RMB200 for a boob job only. The lowest rate for FS in BBS that I have ever encountered is RMB400. So please let me know where you can get FS for RMB200 in Beijing and cut my mongering cost to half every month. Thanks mate.

Lets hope those girls that do FS for RMB200 looks decent.

[LuluChina]

1. Girls run 300/1300? 300 to seat and total 1300 to take out? Can take the girl out to another hotel in ChaoYang area?

- yes. 300 for seat. 1000 for take out. You can take out near hotel from this KTV.

2. Room charge (minimum) only 1000 and only tip 200 to one server, usually a Princess or a DJ, correct?

- yes minimum 1000 you need spend with any drink.

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This is amazing, I didn't know BJ has this type of inexpensive ktvs.

- well I', trying to find really good one at south area which is similar Korean style KTV.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

[LuluChina]

Please share this wonderful cheap girl information.


Hey Fernando,

Where do you get FS for RMB200 in Beijing nowadays? You can't even get it in BBS which offer RMB200 for a boob job only. The lowest rate for FS in BBS that I have ever encountered is RMB400. So please let me know where you can get FS for RMB200 in Beijing and cut my mongering cost to half every month. Thanks mate.

Lets hope those girls that do FS for RMB200 looks decent.

[Gualtier Malde]

Hey Fernando,

Where do you get FS for RMB200 in Beijing nowadays? You can't even get it in BBS which offer RMB200 for a boob job only. The lowest rate for FS in BBS that I have ever encountered is RMB400. So please let me know where you can get FS for RMB200 in Beijing and cut my mongering cost to half every month. Thanks mate.

Lets hope those girls that do FS for RMB200 looks decent.I've had no problem getting FS for 200 (and less) in the outlying villages (cuns) around Beijing (that's tip, not including the massage fee (typically 168 for 90 minutes of real massage, including a foot massage. Though the FS time will normally come out of the 90 minutes). But I've not seen it that low inside the 5th ring.

Prices in this range seem pretty common in these villages. You get a real massage in a filthy dump (keep your shoes on, they spit on the floor) with questionable looking talent, but it's cheap. Bring your own condom.

There is no point in asking which one, I wouldn't know how to direct you to these places anyway. But if you can travel out a bit, find any village, with a massage place (look for anmo signs) , and give them a try. Not all do FS, but those that do will do it cheaply, and those that don't will do what they do (HJ / BJ) very very cheaply. Oh, and you might need to become a repeat customer to earn their trust before they offer FS.

GM

[Saiyajin]

I've had no problem getting FS for 200 (and less) in the outlying villages (cuns) around Beijing (that's tip, not including the massage fee (typically 168 for 90 minutes of real massage, including a foot massage. Though the FS time will normally come out of the 90 minutes). But I've not seen it that low inside the 5th ring.

Prices in this range seem pretty common in these villages. You get a real massage in a filthy dump (keep your shoes on, they spit on the floor) with questionable looking talent, but it's cheap. Bring your own condom.

There is no point in asking which one, I wouldn't know how to direct you to these places anyway. But if you can travel out a bit, find any village, with a massage place (look for anmo signs) , and give them a try. Not all do FS, but those that do will do it cheaply, and those that don't will do what they do (HJ / BJ) very very cheaply. Oh, and you might need to become a repeat customer to earn their trust before they offer FS.

GMI fully concur with GM on their low prices but it does take a while & you have to put in some effort to find the right ones. I haven't received a FS from these outskirt MPs yet but had came close but I believe there had be some sort of crackdown from the local police late last month that put the fear into most.

For some MPs, the girl just tries to lead you on into thinking you'll get some 'honey' after one or two visits. Which could cost you up to 300rmb for a half-hearted back & foot massage. But perhaps I don't bargain with them hard enough (hard to if you're too horny at times.). Regardless, after the 2nd try, if they don't even offer a decent HJ, just get up & leave. Try another next block / street across. There are plenty to be found that offer at the very least HJ / BJ for RMB200 or less. I even received a BBBJ first time there for one!

Now, if they can be slightly more hygienic & chew some flavoured gums to lessen their bad breaths.

[Staid Lo]

Hey Enola,

You reading this? What time you want to meet up with Luke? Hey luke please PM me know your Beijing phone number so we can stay in contact. What time will you be free today?Hi ISGs,

Will be in the capital next week, and available tues or wed for some KTV fun. Please PM me if there is 1, and if you don't mind having a fellow ISG to join.

Cheers,

Staid

[Gualtier Malde]

. But perhaps I don't bargain with them hard enough (hard to if you're too horny at times.). Regardless, after the 2nd try, if they don't even offer a decent HJ, just get up & leave. .Hard bargaining is an essential skill if you want to get a good deal. And it can be harder than you think, in more ways than one. Sometimes you can negotiate up front, before the session starts. This is the best situation, but it usually isn't possible in a new place. For example, if you are in an unfamiliar place, and you aren't sure whether they are legit or not, it can be difficult to come right out and ask (and they may not tell you anyway, since they don't know you). If they really are legitimate, and don't offer special services, you've created an embarrassing situation for yourself. You can either leave or just shrug and go ahead with the regular massage. I suggest the latter in a new place, they may in fact offer you more during / after the rub. Which brings you to the second problem.

If you wait until you are on the table getting a rub to negotiate, they will usually first do a good tease (light fingernails on your back / butt / legs, or a "reach under", or similar) to get you going. They'll then have U-turn over, and may even start a HJ, while negotiating. For sure they will ask an incredibly high amount at first if they don't know you, especially if you are a foreigner.

It is at this moment, even when she has your dick in her hand, that you have to be willing to get off the table and go. On many occasions, in order to get my price, I have stopped her, gotten up, said I'm leaving. They have to know you are strong enough to walk at *any, and especially that point. Then you'll start getting the deal you expect.

GM

ps: I should make clear, if it is an obvious BBS, always negotiate up front! And leave if you don't get your price before walking into the back.

[Nameci]

Been a while since I've posted here since most of the decent spots to get action haven't been on my radar recently.

Looking to getting together a couple of guys to go out and test run a KTV for take-out and fun. Saw that a few guys have posted on being keen, though I don't know if any are still in Beijing at the current moment.

If you're keen, drop me a mail with your contact number and I'll get back to you asap. And that's for today, the key date being 9th Dec.

[Beijing222]

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[Saiyajin]

GM, no problem. I can understand your helpful suggestions re. Hard bargaining. Only wish I done all that sooner!

Now, the biggest problem aside the bargain posturing is that it is the dead of winter now and many of these small BBS & MP don't have adequate heating. How can one receive sufficient 'pleasure' if you still haven't stopped shivering halfway through a HJ?

[SteelBaton]

Shortly after my arrival in BJ for this 4 day visit I got it in my head that I really, really needed to have a Mongolian girl. I had met a few in the Pig and other bars but all were a bit too old for my taste. I sms'ed each of the four outcall providers whose numbers I found on the forum or had used before. No one had any Mongolians in their stable except Kitty at China Escort. We spent the better part of the morning, whilst I was in a conference, texting about options. Initially her only option was a mid-late 20's Mongolian / Sichuan girl who ultimately did meet my desires for a young, tight, body. (I finally decided to have the girl come to the hotel, between my meetings, and then paid her a few hundred to strip and so I could fondle her a bit and see what her body really was like – definitely too old and flabby for me). I must say that I give Kitty kudos for her patience and diligence in trying to find a solution. I counted 42 sms's between us on this topic over a period of 3 hours. She speaks / texts very fluent English – other than telling me such and such a girl has 'big bombs' LOL.

In the end she mentioned Sally who she said was "22, 44 kgs, Mongolian, and great service", but alas not working because of her aunt Rose was in town (period). I finally said that it looked like she had no one for that me day and found another girl via Lily – see prior post on her (that turned out rather well). I asked if Sally might be available the next day and Kitty said she would check and get back to me before 10 pm. Over the course of several hours she checked and said that yes, she thought she might be available but would have to let me know in the morning. Which was a little frustrating, but I guess Sally wanted to be sure her period was finished before she committed.

Ultimately, Sally was available and she arrived in the early afternoon at my hotel door, right on time. Wow, she is a great looking package. About 5` 3' in a form fitting pink knit dress that highlighted her tiny waist and reasonable-sized tits. Nice white silk blouse. She was dressed very nice, sexy but classy. Kitty had said 44 kgs and she sure looked that tight. She said she was born in 1990 which checked with her promoted age of 21/22. Beautiful Mongolian face with high cheek bones, nice white teeth, and a nice smile. Pale skin. Of the three outcalls I'the received this 4 day trip she was definitely the best looking overall.

Invited her in, took her coat, treated her like a lady and offered her some food and something to drink. All without pawing her (like I am prone to do with a hot girl!). We chatted, as much as one can considering she spoke no English and me no Chinese, let alone Mongolian. Some gentle kissing and then suggested she shower.

I couldn't wait to see what was underneath that pink dress. Long story made a little shorter: she has a super-tight young body that you could bounce a coin off of. For fun (my new twist) I put her on the bathroom scale and she came in at 44. 1 kgs (about 97 lbs.). Very petite. She has a nice little set of tits with really long, almost droopy pinkish nipples. Pale skin. Her pussy was especially exciting to me as it is lightly furred (by current China standards) but all the hair is above her pubis bone and her lips are clean and beautiful.

She showered and came out to give me a sweet cuddle and hug as we settled into the bed. Great BBBJ. Super tight pussy. Lots of good chemistry with her as I took it easy. Sucked me for 10 minutes and I would say perhaps the best under 25's BJ I've had in China in the past few years – nowhere near as good as New Zealand or Australia, but pretty damn good for a Chinese 21 yr old. Nice DATY on a fresh young pussy. Good sex in the usual positions, great ass that bears doggy to appreciate. While one-finger tight, she can handle a western dick if you take it slowly.

Summary:

Face: 8/10, long red / black hair as the fashion seems to be now.

Body: 9/10, great ass for an Asian, totally tight zero fat body, light skin.

Tits: B, firm, some possibility of small implants no idea why, but felt a little too firm (?) Great nipples, a nice little handful

BBBJ skills: solid 9/10 on the under 25 China scale, no DT but good interest and plenty of time.

FS: 9/10 tight cu*nt, willing in lots of positions.

GFE: 8/10 considering her young age.

Service: 9/10.

WIR: every day of the week!

Damage: 600 + 200 tip (again excess perhaps, but she was great!)

Conclusion: Sally is a truly pretty young girl with a hot body, nice personality, and outstanding BBBJ skills. One of the best that I have found in China. Treat her nice, please, she'the be my great regular GF. Great hardworking service by Kitty.

PS. I know someone will think this report is too positive and that I am working for Kitty or something. That's cool please don't use the outcall services – more for the rest of us. But, if you read my reports you will see that they are thorough and both positive and negative points and I use multiple outcall providers, so I am not shilling for one. But, if you like them a bit older, well-trained, lots more GFE and like a chance to get to know their personalities then Maggies or one of the bars is probably a better choice.

[SteelBaton]

Maria never responded to my texts, so maybe I had an old number. But I had one girl from each of the others and all were top-notch young, thin girls with mostly great attitudes for 600 rmb. Each were some of the nicer looking under 25 yrs I have enjoyed in 15 years of this hobby. So, there is no question in my mind that the providers have the ability to deliver a great looking young girl, depending on your flexibility. As expected for a girl under 22, you are not getting an experienced working lady who can suck you and love you like you are her future husband or like she has had 500 cocks in her mouth in the past year. She is in this for the money, but some of the girls are sweeter than the others. My first of this visit was only 19 and 40 kilos and while an exciting fukc, she was not really very happy about experience – partly chemistry and probably partly that I was a little big for her.

The girls I chose are young with thin, hard bodies with zero fat and flat stomachs, but small tits, generally exactly my desire. But they need a little coaching and coaxing and don't expect the red ropes from any of them. Of course each of the providers has a bigger stable which includes older, mid-late 20's girls who would be more experienced. Also I would expect that if you wanted big tits you could get that, but I couldn't find thin (<45 kgs) , young (18-22) , pretty, BBBJ, and Big tits, so I compromised on the last trait. I was told that if I were Asian, I'd have more choices. Naturally! Note I speak no Chinese and most of the girls spoke no English, but somehow we managed to complete the sex act every time!

I can't really say that one provider was dramatically better than another: Angel, who I have used on previous trips, has some great girls, was very responsive the first day, but missed my text the next day. I have not been disappointed with the look or services of any of her girls. Lily, who's English is not as good as the other two, delivered one of the best GFE girls to me, Xiao Yun. But, Kitty worked the hardest to meet my needs (quickly responding to texts even at 8:00 am) and she had a few extra girls that I would have tried next if I were in town longer (18 yrs 40 kgs). For whatever reason she seemed to have several hotties but most wouldn't do BBBJ. She did provide the very best girl of my week – Sally who ticked all my boxes except the big tits.

Each provider pretty much delivered what they promised in terms of age, weight, services, etc. Just ask for the details and services and I think they will tell the truth. And if they don't then send the girl back – which is a real hassle for them as the girl gets pissed off and you as the customer gets pissed off so the providers have an incentive to tell the truth and send a proper girl. Kitty for example told me she didn't have anyone who would likely meet my specs on one of the days I was looking. I appreciated that.

So for bros who don't have the time or interest in smoky bars and hunting the bar girls and have a hotel to host them at, I can recommend all three. One caveat, I was always interested in getting a girl before 7 pm so that is not prime time. I was probably the 'first cab off the rank' for these girls so they were always on time and fresh. I am sure that later in the night availability, responsiveness, and timliness is likely to decline because demand increases, the girls are out on calls that run late, etc.

My advice, if you want outcall and have the time and flexibility, you will have much better outcomes if you enjoy a girl before dinner and drinks.

In all my visits to China I have had no difficulty having girls come to my room in 5* hotels as long as it is before 11:00 pm, which is some sort of cut off time for hotel guests, at least in BJ. After that you may need to meet them in the lobby. In those hotels that require keycards for every floor 24 hrs a day, you can meet the girl outside the hotel, give her a key and your room number, and have her wait 2 minutes and follow you back to the hotel. This works well for Ritz. Get the key back or ask the front desk to change the code.

Lastly, YMMV and there are several posts claiming poor service. That may have been due to the time of night, or just bad luck. If you are looking for contact details RTFF. See the China Ads section I believe. Remember any photos you see on websites are fakes so don't bother getting yourself all horny trying to pick which fake picture you like the best.

[SteelBaton]

Following a strike out performance in my Monday night pub crawl from the Pig (11:00 pm) to Hollywood (12:15 am) to Maggies (1:30 am) , I thought I would try again on Tuesday night and start a bit earlier in hopes of finding more action. Not much success.

I was at the Pig from 8:30 to 10:30 – tried that horrible Mexican place down the hallway, avoid that at all costs. Met several early 30's Chinese women who spoke decent English and were fun to fool around with, but too old for my tastes. On cute mid-late Chinese with black bangs and a fun personality. There was another one who must have been mid-late 30's who kept chatting up me until I finally said that I was really looking for a young Mongolian girl (18-24). I told her I'the buy her a beer if she could hook me up or at least steer me in a better direction since I was having no luck. She asked around the bar and came back with some name I didn't recognize or understand, but she practically guaranteed that I would find what I was looking for there. She wrote it in Chinese and said it was near the Great Wall hotel. I got her to write her phone number as well. (I thought she might be scamming me, but really I think most of these girls have good hearts and wouldn't do that for measly beer.)

The other suggestion from a German punter at the bar was Café du Mar, which had been mentioned in a great Beijing Primer report by Sammy T (thanks for that. Very helpful!). CDM was supposed to be close to the PIG so I thought I'the stop by and check that out. It was 11:00 by the time I got there and it was totally dead – only four people in the bar including the bar tender and me. Apparently they have some nice live music, but not until later. (I did talk with a Dutch IT security guy who was adamant I needed my passwords to be 14 characters long and changed every 60 days.) Didn't seem like Tuesday night was going to be happening there.

Went out and stood on the corner for 15 minutes before I finally flagged an empty taxi and gave him the Chinese cocktail napkin directions. The driver was clueless. I dialed the Chinese lady from the Pig and put him on the phone with her and after 3 minutes of talking he seemed to understand. Clearly this was a small, not widely known place! I am thinking that maybe, just maybe, I have stumbled on to a small unknown club full of young Mongolian chicks, waiting for western guys! This will be great!

Naturally, it turns out it was the Park Hyatt bar, Xiu. (It is always amazing how clueless many of the taxi drivers are of a major hotel. But half of them probably were working a farm last year.) Xiu is a great bar and had an awesome live band from Harlem playing and was quite full of attractive people – clearly a hot spot for the monied young locals and some westerners. After a few strolls through the bar I spotted a handful of young working girls, but no Mongolians. Did find a few very nice young Malaysians. I didn't ask the price, but expect it would be expensive. I enjoyed the music and chatted up a few girls before calling it a night. Another three bars, another strike out.

I am still convinced that there must be some spot where Mongolians under 25 congregate or an outcall provider that has resources. Someone please advise!

[Dynamic]

I fully concur with GM on their low prices but it does take a while & you have to put in some effort to find the right ones. I haven't received a FS from these outskirt MPs yet but had came close but I believe there had be some sort of crackdown from the local police late last month that put the fear into most.

For some MPs, the girl just tries to lead you on into thinking you'll get some 'honey' after one or two visits. Which could cost you up to 300rmb for a half-hearted back & foot massage. But perhaps I don't bargain with them hard enough (hard to if you're too horny at times.). Regardless, after the 2nd try, if they don't even offer a decent HJ, just get up & leave. Try another next block / street across. There are plenty to be found that offer at the very least HJ / BJ for RMB200 or less. I even received a BBBJ first time there for one!

Now, if they can be slightly more hygienic & chew some flavoured gums to lessen their bad breaths.Oh sure, and I guess you will be expecting Santa Claus to arrive at your place soon?

[Saiyajin]

Oh sure, and I guess you will be expecting Santa Claus to arrive at your place soon?Actually, I'm more partial to the fairy Godmother, if she loses the weight & glasses yet still has her 'cougar' instincts to wave magic 'wands'.

[George 6969]

Gentlemen, one question. I am planning to come to Beijing around Chinese New Year. Is there the normal business going on or will all Ladies leave for vacation, especially those from Mongolia or the CIS. Which places will be open and what would be a good (mongering) place for celebrating the New Year. Any advice is appreciated.

[Gualtier Malde]

i was at one of the guomao area mps (one of the expensive ones in van palace) last week. the first girl assigned didn't want to do fs, because it was that time of month. so after she massaged me, and i insisted, they sent in a different girl.

it took a few minutes to get her into the mood, a little touching, etc. because i had already had the massage (note that i believe getting the massage helps warm her up as much as you, and this was proof). once she relaxed she lay down on the table for some kissing, then to receive some oral. she got fairly worked up over that, but then i moved up and started giving her a medium-aggressive g-spot massage.

at first she resisted. not sure she had ever had one like this. but it took only a few seconds for her to realize this was something fine. she lay back and started moaning sweetly. before long (this kind of g-spot action never takes long) , she was cumming, and suddenly started crying out "i make water! i make water!" and sure enough, she surprised us both by squirting. not heavily, like the porn stars (who are usually just peeing) , but still quite wet.

this is the first time i've had an asian pro squirt.

she then started asking me if she could be my girlfriend, ha! she's a sweetie.

i think her name is sasha, or sa sa, or xia xia, in one of the van palace mps.

pm for the specific one. (all disclosure rights reserved.)

gm.

[DidNoob]

Was in Wangjing the other day and figured I'd check out one of the massage parlors there.

Vaguely remembering a few posts from here I made my way to the Si Qu (4 complex) , it's across the road from the subway exit C. Ended up at building 418, which had a sign for massage above a doorway to the basement. Headed down and found the entrance to the parlor to the right of the bottom of the stairs. No one at the desk, but the reception girl soon appeared to my cries of "you ren ma?" She said something I didn't understand, until I realised she was trying to speak English: oila massaga. Was led to a small room with a large bed and offered coffee or tea.

After a few minutes the girl arrived, short and cute if a little chubby. Seemed young, had a good attitude. She got pretty chatty once she realised I could speak Chinese. I was told to get fully undress and lie on my front. Started with a back massage but wasnt long till she headed south. Nice sensual massage with some mutual touching, HJ at the end. 160rmb for 90 mins.

From the sounds of the neighbouring room, more might be avail but she didn't offer and I didn't bother asking.

[Member #4144]

. Naturally, it turns out it was the Park Hyatt bar, Xiu. (It is always amazing how clueless many of the taxi drivers are of a major hotel. But half of them probably were working a farm last year.) Xiu is a great bar and had an awesome live band from Harlem playing and was quite full of attractive people – clearly a hot spot for the monied young locals and some westerners. After a few strolls through the bar I spotted a handful of young working girls, but no Mongolians. Did find a few very nice young Malaysians. I didn't ask the price, but expect it would be expensive. I enjoyed the music and chatted up a few girls before calling it a night. Another three bars, another strike out.

I am still convinced that there must be some spot where Mongolians under 25 congregate or an outcall provider that has resources. Someone please advise!Excellent reports you had written, SteelBaton. Xiu Have imported talents? That is really intriguing. Young working girls, that is what we have been looking for, Mongolian or not, hopfully this can be an alternative to Maggies, which has gotten a bit old on this board. I search this thread and did not find anyone reported on Xiu before. It is a rooftop bar? Good to go check it out just for that.

Fillmore

[Gris3]

Hello Gentleman.

I am going to beijing with some good friends in the middle of December, our problem is that the only places we know is Maggie's, Banana, and Craigslist. I would therefore

Appreciate some advice for about is worth visiting and what price range we should expect. It should be places that offer BJ / FS.

I've also been looking after an escort agency who are to be trusted, and where price is not ridiculously high. (The ones I have found on the Web is around 1200 for 90 min.)

Thanks,

Gris3

[Member #4144]

Hello, Gentleman.

I am going to beijing with some good friends in the middle of December, our problem is that the only places we know is Maggie's, Banana, and Craigslist. I would therefore

Appreciate some advice for about is worth visiting and what price range we should expect. It should be places that offer BJ / FS.

I've also been looking after an escort agency who are to be trusted, and where price is not ridiculously high. (The ones I have found on the Web is around 1200 for 90 min.)

Thanks,

Gris3It seems that you didn't bother to read even the first few recent posts and expect to be fed the key info by simply asking, and I happen to be that sucker.

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Current situation in BJ is that for newbies, best options would be Maggies and the various outcall providers already mentioned a lot lately. You should not bother with Craigslist, as that would be needle in a haystack to strike the right one, much simpler and efficient to just use Angle / Kitty / Lily and you can search the ads section for the contact numbers. As for the cost, way too cheap really, just 600.

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Fillmore

[BritInEgypt]

I visited Beijing for a conference in May and on one of the nights visited XIU with a few other attendee's and there was quiet a large queue at the entrance but the doormen waved us through. It was heaving (Thursday night) with people of various nationalities and generally quiet a young crowd with a really good band playing covers. One of the girls from the conference who came with us was pretty familiar with the Beijing nightlife and she informed us that each day of the week has a different "place to be" so if a place is packed one night it could be empty the next.

At first I was not sure if it was a mongering spot but it did not take me long to figure it out judging by the amount of winks and smiles I was getting. I was standing at the corner of the bar and this short, very curvaceous and hot brunette kept walking past and going to the ladies and smiling each time she passed and on the third time this happened I asked her if she was going to stop and say Hello, which she did, turns out she was Russian and a "student" in Beijing and after a few dances, drinks ect we were smooching away and having a great time and I asked her if she wanted to come back to my hotel which she implied that she did and then I made the fatal mistake of in a round about way asking how much it would cost to which she took great offence, said "I am no working girl" and stormed off.

So I screwed up what would have been a freebie with a very hot and nice Russkie and was now pissed off so did not bother taking a WG, so beware when going to XIU, although there are quiet a few working girls its also possible to score a freebie so be careful not to make the same mistake I did, LOL

[Gualtier Malde]

Oh, dude, I feel for you. I guess as you have learned the hard way, there are three downsides to initiating the money conversation. You hit the first, but not the worst. The second downside is if she was a vice cop (not likely in China for a Russian to be working that beat of course, but generally speaking, that's a downside of bringing up money first). That's the worst. The third downside is if she is really a pro, you've set yourself up on the bad side of the negotiation. It goes something like this: You: "How much?"; Her: "What are you willing to pay?"

Already you're in a hole. You've already established that you are open to paying to play, and she still has all the cards. From a pure negotiation perspective, the longer you both delay mentioning anything about money (the closer she gets to your room) the more leverage you have, assuming you are willing to kick her out at any time. (Any pro worth her salt won't be leaving the bar without a fee established, though many will try to rip you off later with an upsell in the room. The defense of this is to never, ever, ever pay up front).

Better luck next time!

GM.

Ps: The opposite strategy is in play in a BBS, as mentioned elsewhere. When you walk into a BBS, you've already established that you will pay to play (and are in a weak, but not terrible, negotiating position). In that situation, you get the numbers out first, or walk. But pay at the end, not up front.


I visited Beijing for a conference in May and on one of the nights visited XIU with a few other attendee's and there was quiet a large queue at the entrance but the doormen waved us through. It was heaving (Thursday night) with people of various nationalities and generally quiet a young crowd with a really good band playing covers. One of the girls from the conference who came with us was pretty familiar with the Beijing nightlife and she informed us that each day of the week has a different "place to be" so if a place is packed one night it could be empty the next.

At first I was not sure if it was a mongering spot but it did not take me long to figure it out judging by the amount of winks and smiles I was getting. I was standing at the corner of the bar and this short, very curvaceous and hot brunette kept walking past and going to the ladies and smiling each time she passed and on the third time this happened I asked her if she was going to stop and say Hello, which she did, turns out she was Russian and a "student" in Beijing and after a few dances, drinks ect we were smooching away and having a great time and I asked her if she wanted to come back to my hotel which she implied that she did and then I made the fatal mistake of in a round about way asking how much it would cost to which she took great offence, said "I am no working girl" and stormed off.

So I screwed up what would have been a freebie with a very hot and nice Russkie and was now pissed off so did not bother taking a WG, so beware when going to XIU, although there are quiet a few working girls its also possible to score a freebie so be careful not to make the same mistake I did, LOL

[Crazyfish68]

First of all thanks to the forum member who gave me the hint for this place. As promised, it took a bit, but here's the report.

Went to this massage place in the Lufthansa / Kempinski area mid afternoon. The place was quiet, guess was the first customer.

At the reception came an elder lady who spoke decent english. Told her I wanted to have massage. She then explained, going right to business, that 1 hr of oil massage with HJ cost 680 RMB. 1 hr oil massage with HJ and BJ cost 850 RMB and 1 hr oil massage with HJ, BJ and FS cost 1280 RMB.

Actually not the cheapest place but what the heck, I went for the FS. FYI payment takes place at check-out. I recieved a locker key from the lady and was the accompanied by a guy to the locker room. And now the only annoying part of the lovely afternoon. Once in the locker room I undressed to have a shower. What really brought me almost to explode (of anger) was that this guy was standing the whole time while I was undressing at less than 2 meters from me. When I went to the shower room I made unmistakeably understand him that "he could go now". Anyway he came back after I finished showering, but I declined his trial to dry me. Things like "did I end up in some kind of gay club" went even through my mind, but fortunately it was not like this. Apparently Chinese like to be "served" even in this "intimate way".

Once escorted to my room a lady was waiting there in a nurse-like uniform. In the quite spacious room there was a massage table and a comfortable sofa chair. The lady spoke a very poor english, but together with my poor Chinese it was enough for "business". She started the "massage" which could have been better called as caresses and ended up around my Willy. She took her time and did it very sensual. After that she started a very slow BBBJ. The part I liked the most is that she took some hot water in her mouth, which reminded me to those BBBJ you get in some places inSE Asia with the alternate hot water and icecubes in the mouth.

After that she undressed and to my surprise two beautiful firm natural C-cup boobies came out of her uniform. She performed quite a GFE and after a while she started to ride me. She even seemed to enjoy (if it was fake, she was really good). I finished her in the missionary position.

Quick cleaning and finished the session with a nice massage. I would have tipped her, but all my belongings were closed in the locker.

Sure, all in all not cheap but IMHO worth to its last Yuan. I surely would do it again.

As usual, in order not to put these "monuments" at risk, name and precise location of the place and details of the girl only via PM.

Thanks and play safe out there.

CF68

[Viajando Musico]

At the reception came an elder lady who spoke decent english. Told her I wanted to have massage. She then explained, going right to business, that 1 hr of oil massage with HJ cost 680 RMB. 1 hr oil massage with HJ and BJ cost 850 RMB and 1 hr oil massage with HJ, BJ and FS cost 1280 RMB.

CF68After my trip to BJ last month, I was thinking of staying an extra couple days to enjoy what BJ has to offer at night. But after all the recent disappointing posts about mongering scene in BJ, I think my Dollar can do better elsewhere. 1280 yuan for FS, we are talking about China? Last trip, I was taken to a sauna place inside a 3 star hotel, and was complaining about paying almost 1000 yuan for a HE. But now it looks like that was the market price, as the girl told me. Maggie's is a great place to hang out for a drink or two, but to take a girl out from there, too much efforts for a tag girl if it is even possible, and not a great value for a Northern sister. 1200-1500 yuan.

[Member #4144]

After my trip to BJ last month, I was thinking of staying an extra couple days to enjoy what BJ has to offer at night. But after all the recent disappointing posts about mongering scene in BJ, I think my Dollar can do better elsewhere. 1280 yuan for FS, we are talking about China? Last trip, I was taken to a sauna place inside a 3 star hotel, and was complaining about paying almost 1000 yuan for a HE. But now it looks like that was the market price, as the girl told me. Maggie's is a great place to hang out for a drink or two, but to take a girl out from there, too much efforts for a tag girl if it is even possible, and not a great value for a Northern sister. 1200-1500 yuan.. Which bags the question, why not use one of the outcall providers?

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1280 FS, I may try it out, if the girl is really hot, at least better then the outcall providers can bring me.
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Fillmore

[Viajando Musico]

. Which bags the question, why not use one of the outcall providers?

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1280 FS, I may try it out, if the girl is really hot, at least better then the outcall providers can bring me.

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FillmoreAgree, it seems like outcall service is the only way to get a girl with less effort and. Less Yuan at this moment in Beijing. I strongly doubt the girl will be hot even at@1280 Yuan. The girl that cost me 900 yuan was a 5. 5 at best, and for that price, you can get a 7-8 girl with spare change for taxi.

[SteelBaton]

Excellent reports you had written, SteelBaton. Xiu Have imported talents? That is really intriguing. Young working girls, that is what we have been looking for, Mongolian or not, hopfully this can be an alternative to Maggies, which has gotten a bit old on this board. I search this thread and did not find anyone reported on Xiu before. It is a rooftop bar? Good to go check it out just for that.

FillmoreThere are certainly some hot working girls in Xiu but they are, at least on a Tuesday night, only about 5% to 10% of the women there. I would guess there were girls from several foreign countries: Malaysia, Singapore, Russia, etc. Lots of Asian and Western couples as you might expect considering that it is in one of the more popular western business hotels. The bar is on the 6th floor of the hotel. Google Park Hyatt BJ and you'll find it quickly. Maggie's is totally different vibe. Xiu was more like a pumping night club. Very nice place to hang out, listen to the music, and have a perve (as the Aussies say, by which they mean ogle cute chicks in nicely reveling clothes). Give it a try, I am sure you would find someone interesting, but at what price?

The other place I can think of that is a little similar is the Grand Hilton / Hyatt (?) in Singapore if you ever get there. They have nice hotel bar scene but 95% of the girls there are working and generally a cut above the other 4 floors of working girls bars.

[SteelBaton]

Agree, it seems like outcall service is the only way to get a girl with less effort and. Less Yuan at this moment in Beijing. I strongly doubt the girl will be hot even at@1280 Yuan. The girl that cost me 900 yuan was a 5. 5 at best, and for that price, you can get a 7-8 girl with spare change for taxi.Definitely try one of the outcall providers. If you are specific about what you want (and it doesn't include animal sex or anal) you can hook up with a 8+ girl for 600 rmb. If in doubt, set up someone for 7:00 pm and if they show and you are unhappy, you can just send her back and head out for the MPs, Maggie's, or another alternative. YOu need no Chinese to do this. If you find one you like and the session has been somewhat mutual you have a 50/50 chance of getting her number and hooking up later for even less money.

[SteelBaton]

After a refreshing afternoon fling with my most recent teenager, I left to Hollywood at 11:30 pm.

Hollywood: I have never been there so showed the drive the driver the MobileNative directions for Old Absent where I understand Hollywood has moved. That was a disaster, very difficult to find for my driver. Stopped several times down dead end streets. Meter was up to 40+ by the time I think we found it. When we got to what looked like the entrance, at least from the MobileNative picture, I asked the driver to wait (gave him a 100 rmb and prayed that he won't ditch me) while I check it out. Went down some stairs, turned left and could see a bar with mirrors beyond a lady sitting at a desk selling 80 rmb entrance tickets. It was pretty much dead silent in the bar but I couldn't see the main room to the right. Tried to convince the lady to let me have a free look, but I speak no Chinese and that wasn't happening. So I paid the 80 rmb and went into to find a totally dead bar at 12:30 pm with 4 girls who looked mid-30's probably dark haired Russians, none the least bit attractive to me. So I left the bar. Did I have totally the wrong place? Or just the wrong night?Still hoping for an answer on this query. Is Hollywood in the same place as Old Absent and does my description sound like the right place? I'd like to check out the Russian offerings but that night, in that bar, with those 4 hookers, was a non-starter. Anyone been to Hollywood or a good Russian place lately?

Thanks in advance!

[SteelBaton]

In reviewing my PC, I found a report that was written last spring but didn't get around to posting. Might be of interest to some. Another good experience with outcall providers, at least for me in BJ.


After 2 days in Shanghai, I have a couple of days of business in Beijing and will be staying at the Ritz, Financial Street. Unfortunately, I have business obligations both nights and most of the days, but I am hoping to get in a little mongering one mid-afternoon. From what I have read it sounds like my best option is probably one of the escort services: Angel's, Lily's, China Escort or Maria. I haven't heard much about sauna's and the idea of girl delivered is appealing since I have only a 3 hour window before other appointments. Plus, if the boss is paying, I might as well shag a nice bird in a nice bed.

To check on availability and services, I sent text messages to each place, at about 1:00 pm Beijing-time last week from my home country. Angel, Lily and Maria all responded within about 15-20 minutes, never heard from China Escort. Each of them confirmed that they could send a girl to me as early as 2:00 pm. I asked about 'inventory' and got some responses which sounded acceptable at least in the written word. Best English was Angel, but both Lily and Maria were satisfactory, but clearly not fluent in English. Didn't go into prices but assume it will be 600-800 from RTFF. (And, yes, have read the advocates and dissenters of Angel and will factor that into my final choice, assuming any shop can acutally deliver on expectations and timeframes.)

Hotel: I am a little concerned about whether I'll have a problem bringing a girl into the Ritz in the middle of the business day when a major conference is happening at the hotel. So plan to check that out when I arrive and can case the hotel. Maybe she can just come to my room and knock on the door, or there may be an issue with getting past doorman, or not having a key for elevator. Anyone have any experience with this hotel?

Any suggestions would be welcomed; will report back on how execution of plan goes.Reporting Back: I was staying at the Ritz on business and wanted a girl for a Wednesday afternoon session. Around 11:30 am Wednesday, I sent SMS messages to the three services which had seemed responsive in my test the previous week: Maria, Angel, and Lily. In the text I explained that I wanted a girl at the Ritz at around 2:30, who did they have? Strangely, whereas last week I got replies from all three within 20 minutes, only Lily (+86 135 5288 1500; +86 186 0003-7192) replied. We went back and forth with 6 or 7 messages about how to get the girl to my room. I explained that I know too many people at the hotel and I couldn't meet the girl in the lobby and the hotel elevators require a key to access room floors (specifically, if you have the key to room 1169, you can only access floor 11. So this means that a girl couldn't get in the elevator with some other guests, wait for them to use their key and then she could push any other floor. Some hotels work this way.) I considered maybe meeting her and giving her a key on the second or third floors which are common floors accessible by anyone, but concluded it would be too obvious and would need to meet her somewhere else.

Lily had three girls available. Based on description I chose 'Ding Ding' (seriously her real name!) Lily claimed she was pretty, C cups, thin, young and good service. Well, we'll see. I was fully prepared to send her back if she didn't seem close to this. Quoted price was 600 ($90). DD doesn't speak any English, but I think I can deal with that if she can get to my room. Lily's had some woman named Mimi call me on my mobile to confirm details, decent English, and tell me the price. They also wanted the phone number of the hotel, my room number, and last name. Which I provided.

Meeting spot: after looking around for a while, I decided to meet Ding Ding At the local KFC. Figured KFC is well known in China and less chance of some mix-up. Mimi said she'the be there at 2:30 and she would call me when she arrived. At 2:25 I got a text saying there was heavy traffic and DD was delayed to 2:45 or so. I waited and at 2:50 a very good looking young girl dressed in designer jeans, boots, and nice top arrives. DD looks just as described. I give her a copy of the room key and make sure she knows the room number. I indicate to wait a few minutes and then go to the hotel, which I point out to her so there is no confusion. Works perfectly and she enters my room about 10 minutes later around 3:00 pm.

Beautiful girl! Thin waisted, young tight body from what I can tell when we embrace, but I am worried that her tits are probably fake cause they are a little large for her slender frame. Wrong! They are perfect firm C cups – and she would definitely pass the pencil test with these – no sag, and well more than my large hand can hold and cover. Black hair, bit longer than shoulder length cut / feathered in a modern style. White skin, pretty face gives me a soft kiss on the lips. Says she is 20 and looks it.

Not too shy she undresses me and suggests a joint shower – kinda rare in these parts, usually they want to do that alone. Soaps up the boner, washes my ass, gives me another kiss. Very satisfying session with good BBBJ, no DT, but pretty good for what I have found in China. Beautiful pussy, unshaved as is normal. Very tight, I love it when doing doggy, I can see her lips pull out still wrapped around my cock a good ½ inch with each pump. Very nice GFE treatment.

Not sure if Ding Ding is still in Lily's stable but if she is, she is worth consideration. Total damage 600 rmb. (On my most recent trip for some reason I remembered getting Ding Ding from Angel and asked about her again, but of course Angel didn't know her. If I'd remembered it was via Lily, I would have repeated, for sure!)

[Gualtier Malde]

First of all thanks to the forum member who gave me the hint for this place. As promised, it took a bit, but here's the report.

Went to this massage place in the Lufthansa / Kempinski area mid afternoon.

-trimmed-

And now the only annoying part of the lovely afternoon. Once in the locker room I undressed to have a shower. What really brought me almost to explode (of anger) was that this guy was standing the whole time while I was undressing at less than 2 meters from me. When I went to the shower room I made unmistakeably understand him that "he could go now". Anyway he came back after I finished showering, but I declined his trial to dry me. Things like "did I end up in some kind of gay club" went even through my mind, but fortunately it was not like this. Apparently Chinese like to be "served" even in this "intimate way".This is quite normal in these kinds of saunas. Just go with it, it's the way they roll here. Nothing gay about it, just service. Even in the legit high end spas you get this from the male locker room staff.


The part I liked the most is that she took some hot water in her mouth, which reminded me to those BBBJ you get in some places inSE Asia with the alternate hot water and icecubes in the mouth.This is commonly referred to as "Fire and Ice".


I would have tipped her, but all my belongings were closed in the locker.Good thing they had your money locked up. You don't tip in these places, or for that matter most anywhere else. (They'll just think you're a sucker. Really.)

GM.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Haha I know this hotel, met one 29year old girl over worldfriends qq dating website, who is working in this hotel.

Met her a few times last month and we had lot's of freebie fun. Of course I did not stay in this hotel as employees cannot contact with customers in private and not allowed to visit their rooms.

She gave me a tour through the hotel anyway. Nice hotel, with good security, which is not too good for visitors.

BTW, qq worldfriends dating site worked out for me perfectly, I met 5 girls last month in various cities in China and scored 4 times, without any payment and I am not young brad pitt anymore. These girls really knew what they wanted. Anyway I had fun.

Greetings.

Thomas Jefferson.


In reviewing my PC, I found a report that was written last spring but didn't get around to posting. Might be of interest to some. Another good experience with outcall providers, at least for me in BJ.

Reporting Back: I was staying at the Ritz on business

[Bad Boy Billy]

Still hoping for an answer on this query. Is Hollywood in the same place as Old Absent and does my description sound like the right place? I'd like to check out the Russian offerings but that night, in that bar, with those 4 hookers, was a non-starter. Anyone been to Hollywood or a good Russian place lately?

Thanks in advance!Yes you were in the right place. But you were there far too late.

The Russian hoares are there from 9pm on. Those that are still there at 11:30 to 12ish will then head to Chocolate. Arriving in Hollywood past midnight total waste of time.

So your choices for Russians are Hollywood 9 til 12. Chocolate 11 til late. Las Vegas midnight til late.

BTW. I will be back in BJ Jan 10 to 16. Who is going to be around?

Fillmore I sure hope you in town. You seriously need an education.

PM me if you going to be about. You guys will learn something.

[SteelBaton]

Yes you were in the right place. But you were there far too late.

The Russian hoares are there from 9pm on. Those that are still there at 11:30 to 12ish will then head to Chocolate. Arriving in Hollywood past midnight total waste of time.

So your choices for Russians are Hollywood 9 til 12. Chocolate 11 til late. Las Vegas midnight til late.

BTW. I will be back in BJ Jan 10 to 16. Who is going to be around?

Fillmore I sure hope you in town. You seriously need an education.

PM me if you going to be about. You guys will learn something.Great. Thanks for that. I won't waste another late night chasing pussy there. What's the quality and price like earlier in the evening? It's been 15 years since I was in Moscow and enjoyed a young taut snow white Slavic girl. I expect not much of that quality makes it to BJ, but what about at least 18-25, thin without a greedy whorish attitude?

[SteelBaton]

BTW, qq worldfriends dating site worked out for me perfectly, I met 5 girls last month in various cities in China and scored 4 times, without any payment and I am not young brad pitt anymore. These girls really knew what they wanted.

Thomas Jefferson.Sounds intriguing. Can you comment on quality? And I assume one must speak some Chinese to get anywhere close to a bed with them?

[Bad Boy Billy]

What's the quality and price like earlier in the evening? attitude?Price is set RMB1,000 ST. Negotiate LT if you desire.

Quality in past has varied from young and gorgeous to old, ugly and porky. You know the types that Sammy and Jesse James love.

Go check it out. Your Princess = my pig / your dog = my stunner. We all have different tastes.

[Member #4683]

In Beijing during January. Lets meet and have a look around.


Price is set RMB1, 000 ST. Negotiate LT if you desire.

Quality in past has varied from young and gorgeous to old, ugly and porky. You know the types that Sammy and Jesse James love.

Go check it out. Your Princess = my pig / your dog = my stunner. We all have different tastes.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Sounds intriguing. Can you comment on quality? And I assume one must speak some Chinese to get anywhere close to a bed with them?Chinese is not a must, you can select english speaking girls in qq world friends dating site, chat with them by qq / msn / yahoo whatever first a few days, NEVER talk about sex, but don't promise any love or marriage too!

Just tell them you want find new friends to spend time, meet them, be nice and friendly. After 1-2 hours you will know, if something will happen or not.

Quality is usually very good, these girls know what they want. And most have some experience. If they never had boyfriend before than stop chatting, it means they did not have sex before, and nothing will happen!

Here my last 2 success stories:

1. Chatted one english teacher / and part time painter / artist girl. 32 years old, earns good money and has a 4 room appartment near 3rd ring road.

She was looking for a friend and maybe more. So we met for dinner after a few chattings by msn, we had a nice evening, but nothing happend, just a small kiss bye-bye.

Next day I called her again, we did some shopping in afternoon and than she invited me for dinner in her home and have a relaxed evening, watching dvd.

We bought some pizza and wine went to her home, and the movie hasnt finished we deep kissed on the sofa already. She let me touch her, but made clear no sex tonight.

Later I said it is better I move back to my hotel, because I am not the guy who is searching fast sex only and better sleep in my own bed, and off I go.

WTF, wasted an evening again, took a taxi to maggies, and before I arrived got a sms, and the girl asked me to come back please. I told her to come to my hotel and 15 min later we arrived almost same time there.

Once in the room we continued dfk and soon we were completely undressed and had a very long night. Wow she knew how to BBBJ. Next morning she did not need to work so, we stayed in bed until lunch time.

We spend 1 more night together than I told her I have to leave beijing and said byebye. Still we chat every week now. Cannot wait to come back to beijing next month.

2. Chatted to one sales staff of a five star hotel, too. Met her in qq worldfriends dating site. She spoke perfect english. 27 years, slim, pretty. Met for dinner and it was very clear after one hour that we will end up in my bed.

After dinner I took her to a small bar, we had some cocktails, started kissing, and later we went to my hotel without any discussing. This girl was not very experienced, she did not know BJ, but was eager to learn and got very hot. We had 2 perfect nights,

Until I really had to leave beijing. Still in contact with her too.

So, with a bit of effort, means chatting, and one or two dinner (the girls even insisted to pay the dinner, haha, but I paid for it anyway) , than anyting is possible. 4 of my best sex nights in China for zero cost,

And I found 2 good friends, with no any promisses made on both sides.

Most important, treat them nice as a gentleman, NEVER talk about sex, they will pay back, they are not used this kind of nice attention. Never promisse them love or worse. Marriage. That will not be fair to them as they are not professionals, they still will hope for the mr. Right to bring them to europe or america.

NEVER give them your real phone number or email address. Buy a Chinese sim card and use a seperate email for contacting these girls, specially if you have wife at home.

NEVER tell them your real name, but stick with your lifestory as close to reality as possible. So you will not mix up the facts (like birthdate, living place, brothers sisters etc)

You need to invest some time for this, or just go to maggies and pay 1000 rmb.

Have fun.

Thomas Jefferson

[Member #4144]

Yes you were in the right place. But you were there far too late.

The Russian hoares are there from 9pm on. Those that are still there at 11:30 to 12ish will then head to Chocolate. Arriving in Hollywood past midnight total waste of time.

So your choices for Russians are Hollywood 9 til 12. Chocolate 11 til late. Las Vegas midnight til late.

BTW. I will be back in BJ Jan 10 to 16. Who is going to be around?

Fillmore I sure hope you in town. You seriously need an education.

PM me if you going to be about. You guys will learn something.Just so happen that I will be in BJ around that time. I am passing through on Friday the 13th. Sure thing, would love to learn from the experts of BJ.

Fillmore

[Member #4144]

Chinese is not a must, you can select english speaking girls in qq world friends dating site, chat with them by qq / msn / yahoo whatever first a few days, NEVER talk about sex, but don't promise any love or marriage too!

Just tell them you want find new friends to spend time, meet them, be nice and friendly. After 1-2 hours you will know, if something will happen or not.

Quality is usually very good, these girls know what they want. And most have some experience. If they never had boyfriend before than stop chatting, it means they did not have sex before, and nothing will happen!
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I googled and only thing I found was qq international dating site, must be the correct one right? I signed up and tried to search but found no way to search by city. That would be problem for me as I want to find them in Guangzhou or BJ only.
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Interesting thing is that using "Casual Dating Partner" brought out 17 pages of photos for <35 yr, so maybe some P4P there as well? or really, they just want to date and no string? Many pages to browse through, but might worth the effort.
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Fillmore

[Niteluvr]

Will be in Beijing approximately Feb. 16-18, 2012 but will be with a lady friend. Would you all recommend Maggie's as a place to bring her? I've been to Maggie's in 2007 and I know it's full of working girls, but it would be eye candy for me while I dance with my girl. Or, is there a better nightclub in Beijing to bring her to?

[Loveasiangirls]

Chinese is not a must, you can select english speaking girls in qq world friends dating site, chat with them by qq / msn / yahoo whatever first a few days, NEVER talk about sex, but don't promise any love or marriage too!

Just tell them you want find new friends to spend time, meet them, be nice and friendly. After 1-2 hours you will know, if something will happen or not.

Most important, treat them nice as a gentleman, NEVER talk about sex, they will pay back, they are not used this kind of nice attention. Never promisse them love or worse. Marriage. That will not be fair to them as they are not professionals, they still will hope for the mr. Right to bring them to europe or america.

NEVER give them your real phone number or email address. Buy a Chinese sim card and use a seperate email for contacting these girls, specially if you have wife at home.

NEVER tell them your real name, but stick with your lifestory as close to reality as possible. So you will not mix up the facts (like birthdate, living place, brothers sisters etc)

Thomas JeffersonIt is pretty much the same on any dating web site. You can usually tell after some chatting if something will happen. If you have time to invest it is a good way and you'll have too many girls.

[Member #4683]

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I googled and only thing I found was qq international dating site, must be the correct one right? I signed up and tried to search but found no way to search by city. That would be problem for me as I want to find them in Guangzhou or BJ only.

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Interesting thing is that using "Casual Dating Partner" brought out 17 pages of photos for <35 yr, so maybe some P4P there as well? Or really, they just want to date and no string? Many pages to browse through, but might worth the effort.

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FillmoreThink you can use the search function in the buttom left corner.

Not sure if it is the right site but let us know what you find!

-have tried some but did not search deep enough.

[Member #4144]

Think you can use the search function in the buttom left corner.

Not sure if it is the right site but let us know what you find!

-have tried some but did not search deep enough.It should show qq international if you are on the right site. There are indeed a lot of Chinese girls there, but it is not working for me. I did find out that you can search by city, so I fixed it at guangzhou and sent out half a dozen smiles and did get some of them to look at my info, one did send a smile back but she did not respond to my subsequent message.

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So yes, it is like any dating site, except this one has probabbly the largest collection of Chinese girls, but it takes time, and maybe skills, which looks like I don't possess.
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Another factor maybe that this will work best for westerns, or just "foreigners". Many Chinese girls are curious and actualy want to try it once with a foreigner, especially westerners. I suepect that once they looked at my photo and see a Chinese guy, they will move on to the next guy. I have always had been a womenizer all my life, so I don't think I am ugly or something. Also, many did put down marriage partners as one goal and I myself put down married, so that too, might be an important factor, but I certainly don't want to lie to some girl who is really looking for a husband.


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So looks like it is back to bars and ktv etc, for me at least.

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Fillmore

[Bad Boy Billy]

Just so happen that I will be in BJ around that time. I am passing through on Friday the 13th. Sure thing, would love to learn from the experts of BJ.

FillmoreI will PM you with my Chinese number before I leave Aust on 10th. Going to fix you up with a small framed lightweight young Mongol. I hadher myself last visit. You will never waste time with those Chinese parasite bar girls in Maggies again once you had a taste of this one.

[Member #4144]

I will PM you with my Chinese number before I leave Aust on 10th. Going to fix you up with a small framed lightweight young Mongol. I hadher myself last visit. You will never waste time with those Chinese parasite bar girls in Maggies again once you had a taste of this one.Excellent, lucky me, hahaha.

Fillmore

[China Hood]

Will be in Beijing approximately Feb. 16-18, 2012 but will be with a lady friend. Would you all recommend Maggie's as a place to bring her? I've been to Maggie's in 2007 and I know it's full of working girls, but it would be eye candy for me while I dance with my girl. Or, is there a better nightclub in Beijing to bring her to?I would recommend Xiu at the Park Hyatt hotel as a far better choice to take your lady friend. Much better atmosphere and, to my taste, considerably better eye-candy.

Having said that, now it has a live band, Maggies is more welcoming to a "civilian". The underlying business model of the place is still very apparent though.

[Bad Boy Billy]

In Beijing during January. Lets meet and have a look around.Sorry Munk but you will need quite a few more posts with some degree of 'value' in them before I or any other BJ regulars will risk hooking up with you.

Aint being mean. Just being realistic.

[Chu Xiang Yu]

Another factor maybe that this will work best for westerns, or just "foreigners". Many Chinese girls are curious and actualy want to try it once with a foreigner, especially westerners. I suepect that once they looked at my photo and see a Chinese guy, they will move on to the next guy. I have always had been a womenizer all my life, so I don't think I am ugly or something. Also, many did put down marriage partners as one goal and I myself put down married, so that too, might be an important factor, but I certainly don't want to lie to some girl who is really looking for a husband.

FillmorePoor Fillmore,

It seems that guys like us just have to stick with prostitues that does not even provide good service in Beijing. LOL.

[AudiA1]

Called up Xiaoyu to arrange for linlin.

Cold cold winter, best is to have a bed warmer.

Her looks is pretty, little makeup and smooth complexion.

Body is slim, fair and smooth all round. The Best part is her legs, long and silky.

Touching them will make you feel excited.

Not forgetting her butt that is round and firm. Best scene while doggie and slapping them.

Breats are beautifully round, firm. Will let you fondle admiringly. Sensitive nipples that easily harden when sucked. Looking at them will make your mouth water and her soft moans while sucking those will make you more excited.

She gets wet easily, very responsive and accommodating;

Who said ladies don't know how to enjoy sex. She knows, and she love it.

XiaoYu aka Crystal: +86 [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].

Ask for linlin, she is good

For non Chinese speaker, please SMS only fro arrangement.

Thanks

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[Eddinger]

Thought I would post my experiences.

Went to maggies. Plenty of attractive women. The bar was really crowded every night I went there. Girls wanted 2000RMB but I would only offer 700. Most balked, but one or two would always find that amount to be good enough once the night got to closing. Worked 2 out of 3 nights there. Girls were 8 out of 10 in looks.

Also used Kittys. Very good service. One tall model looks 9 out of 10. 1000RMB. Another night shorter girl with great tits, short hair 600RMB 8 out of 10 looks.

Thanks

[Member #4683]

Sorry Munk but you will need quite a few more posts with some degree of 'value' in them before I or any other BJ regulars will risk hooking up with you.

Aint being mean. Just being realistic.Get your point Billy. It is not fun running around with an other guy having his tongue hanging out.

Would be nice hooking up at some time though.

Recently moved to Beijing and new on this site. Been around in China for only 6 years; never had problems finding the good things. Tianjin. Easy, Jiangsu. Easy, Guangdong. Ha! But in Beijing it seems a bit more difficult to find the real stuff.

Planning on going to the massage place at Lufthansa, trying Maggies, Hollywood, Chocolate, Las Vegas and Xiu at Hyatt.

Challange is that I do not want to bring her home, have one 'real' girl there quite often.

I will gain some more experience with our favorite sport in Beijing and if I still can't smell my way around, I will ask the expert panel here. A silent praise for ISG.

[Member #4144]

Poor Fillmore,

It seems that guys like us just have to stick with prostitues that does not even provide good service in Beijing. LOL.Well, we have our advantages too, but just via different venues. For example, we are much better in KTV, since most KTV girls prefer oversea Chinese, which is why I only do KTV in Guangzhou and ended up with too many girls to handle down there, but KTV is difficult for me in BJ as I am not familiar with the local scene here, except what have typically been discussed here.

Fillmore

[Lifeingr]

Hi Guys,

One year ago I had a wonderful 4 days time in Beijing with a couple of Mongolian girls I met in Maggie's (the first of my 3 long reports http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1088558#post1088558)

I am in Beijing again in a couple of days and I took a look at the Forum. Correct me if I am wrong but it seems to me that Maggie's doesn't seems to be the place used to be. Live music? Less working girls?

So if Maggie's is not the place to find Mongolian girls where they have moved now?

Anyway I'll definitely visit Maggie's because I have so good memories of the place and girls I met there, but I just wondering if there is any place that ll these girls have moved.

See you in Beijing in a couple of days!

[Member #4144]

Hi Guys,

One year ago I had a wonderful 4 days time in Beijing with a couple of Mongolian girls I met in Maggie's (the first of my 3 long reports.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1088558#post1088558

)

I am in Beijing again in a couple of days and I took a look at the Forum. Correct me if I am wrong but it seems to me that Maggie's doesn't seems to be the place used to be. Live music? Less working girls?

So if Maggie's is not the place to find Mongolian girls where they have moved now?

Anyway I'll definitely visit Maggie's because I have so good memories of the place and girls I met there, but I just wondering if there is any place that ll these girls have moved.

See you in Beijing in a couple of days!For one thing, many more punters going there now then when you wrote your report, so maybe you brought this on yourself, or us, myself included, we wrote so much that the place is now the only game in town. At least in the last few times I went, way more guys there then WLs. The Mongolians are there, that is for sure, but the good ones got pick up pretty quick so you don't usually get to see them.

Fillmore

[Lifeingr]

For one thing, many more punters going there now then when you wrote your report, so maybe you brought this on yourself, or us, myself included, we wrote so much that the place is now the only game in town. At least in the last few times I went, way more guys there then WLs. The Mongolians are there, that is for sure, but the good ones got pick up pretty quick so you don't usually get to see them.

FillmoreOK, good to know that there are still there. Seems though that an early pick up is required. I'll try an see the scene myself in a couple of days and if luck I'll let you know.

Life

[Fifty Shades]

I checked out Xui in the park hyatt last spring because I had read a report that there were some very high end WGs there. Fancy bar, very crowded. Spent about an hour there at 11 PM on a weekend, but all the girls were with boyfriends. There may have been some WGs on site, but if so, they had already found dates. Nothing obvious. I figured that if hung around the bar long enough, I would attract any unattached WG, but no luck. The bouncers guarding the elevator may keep obvious ones out. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has been more successful there, since I only tried it once.


There are certainly some hot working girls in Xiu but they are, at least on a Tuesday night, only about 5% to 10% of the women there. I would guess there were girls from several foreign countries: Malaysia, Singapore, Russia, etc. Lots of Asian and Western couples as you might expect considering that it is in one of the more popular western business hotels. The bar is on the 6th floor of the hotel. Google Park Hyatt BJ and you'll find it quickly. Maggie's is totally different vibe. Xiu was more like a pumping night club. Very nice place to hang out, listen to the music, and have a perve (as the Aussies say, by which they mean ogle cute chicks in nicely reveling clothes). Give it a try, I am sure you would find someone interesting, but at what price?

The other place I can think of that is a little similar is the Grand Hilton / Hyatt (?) in Singapore if you ever get there. They have nice hotel bar scene but 95% of the girls there are working and generally a cut above the other 4 floors of working girls bars.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Get your point Billy.Would be nice hooking up at some time though.Munk you still have a week or 2 to score some brownie points. Post some useful info here first and who knows what might happen.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Poor Fillmore,

It seems that guys like us just have to stick with prostitues that does not even provide good service in Beijing. LOL.Chu Yu and Fillmore. If you are ABC you will not have a problem with the Mongol girls if you do indeed 'ACT LIKE AN AMERICAN'.

The problems will arise if you act too much like CHinese. Again this is not a racist comment. It is factual. Do not worry the Mongols are in this caper primarily for money and secondly who knows they might snare themselves a westerner to keep.

No love lost between Mongols and Chinese nationals as you are no doubt aware. So you goota look like / act like a Yank who was born to Chinese parents. From there on it's down to your game.

[Bad Boy Billy]

I checked out Xui in the park hyatt last spring . I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has been more successful thereBasically lots of full time WG's and part timers freelance in Xiu. Also quite a few civilians can be had for free if you want to spend the time.

The FT's are obvious. PT's less obvious. And the civillians who want to try a westerner qwell it's just luck picking them. They will usually pick you. It's all down to the eye contact.

IMHO a waste of time there. Go to Maggies or Chocolate where every girl is working. Unless you have lots of time to waste that is.

[Bad Boy Billy]

One year ago I had a wonderful 4 days time in Beijing with a couple of Mongolian girls I met in Maggie's.Correct me if I am wrong but it seems to me that Maggie's doesn't seems to be the place used to be.So if Maggie's is not the place to find Mongolian girls where they have moved now?Maggies is STILL the place to find the Mongolians and the Mongolians are STILL the only girls you want to persue on BJ.

RMB1, 000 will still get you an all-nighter. Compare that to the RMB600 whingeing whining under providiong 1 shot Chinese wonders that these clowns think are so priceless from the incall / outcall providors.

Earlier in the evening a few Mongols will occasionally get to Centro or The Den or wherever. Hit and miss before 11:00PM. But after 11 get to Maggies.

If you are going to be in BJ for a few days. Buy a few Mongols in Maggies a drink or 2. Get their numbers. Treat them like prospective girlfriends at first. Gain a bit of confidence. Arrange a daytime meet if that is what you want.

The Mongolian girls in Maggies talk about the punters more than the punters talk about them. You spend 1 night in Maggies and be nice to 4 or 5 girls. Next night you walk in 20 girls will already know you are a reasonable guy and your chances will be greatly enhanced.

[Chu Xiang Yu]

Maggies is STILL the place to find the Mongolians and the Mongolians are STILL the only girls you want to persue on BJ.

RMB1, 000 will still get you an all-nighter. Compare that to the RMB600 whingeing whining under providiong 1 shot Chinese wonders that these clowns think are so priceless from the incall / outcall providors.Oh boy! Billy is absolutely right regarding outcalls in beijing. The service is terrible base on the two outcalls I had last week and the ones I had with angels or whatever previously. Why? This is my experience with two outcalls who are syt, last week:

1) No BJ at all. You might want BBBJ, but they don't even give you CBJ.

2) Not accomodating in any position besides missionary. What the heck!

3) You might be expecting moaning sound to turn you on when you bang them. But the only sound you are getting from them is FASTER, FASTER! WTF!

4) RMB600! Not worth it at all. I might as well get FS from a MP fro RMB400 or a boob job from BBS for RMB200 or HJ for RMB100.

Been mongering for quite some time but feel like a total newbie and getting ripped off! I personally prefer Shen Zhen where services are better and much cheaper and more variety to choose.

Yu out.

[Lifeingr]

Maggies is STILL the place to find the Mongolians and the Mongolians are STILL the only girls you want to persue on BJ.

The Mongolian girls in Maggies talk about the punters more than the punters talk about them. You spend 1 night in Maggies and be nice to 4 or 5 girls. Next night you walk in 20 girls will already know you are a reasonable guy and your chances will be greatly enhanced.

Thanks for confirming that there are still there. What you say in your last paragraph is exactly my experience from the last time I visited Maggie's (one year ago). Hope will be the same this time. Will report back.

Cheers.

Life

[Intransit]

I can do little more than echo our brother Bad Boy Billy. The Mongolians are there and if you have been going to Maggie's for any length of time, you will recognize many of them from the old days.

Last week I finally took out a girl I've wanted to try for a long time, and it was worth it in spades. Mongolian but looks in some cases Chinese. Has a very cool almost goth air about her. Petite and friendly. Once we got home, wow, I did not expect that level of intensity. She made me feel like she had picked me up rather than vice-versa. Two rounds at night and one more in the morning. Reminds me that on the Maggie's premises, the gloves are off and the swords are drawn. Don't overthink it, just embrace your basest desires and act.

[Jacyever]

I can do little more than echo our brother Bad Boy Billy. The Mongolians are there and if you have been going to Maggie's for any length of time, you will recognize many of them from the old days.

Last week I finally took out a girl I've wanted to try for a long time, and it was worth it in spades. Mongolian but looks in some cases Chinese. Has a very cool almost goth air about her. Petite and friendly. Once we got home, wow, I did not expect that level of intensity. She made me feel like she had picked me up rather than vice-versa. Two rounds at night and one more in the morning. Reminds me that on the Maggie's premises, the gloves are off and the swords are drawn. Don't overthink it, just embrace your basest desires and act.Hey body, three times are not so many? Hahahahahaha.

Just enjoy it, come on!

[Becker34]

Short experience in and out of Beijing the last year. Tough place to monger. Especially seeing so many beautiful Chinese girls all over the place. Torture. Ball and chain makes it tough.

Been in and out of maggies probably 5 times over the last year. First time got sucked in by a tagged girl. Didn't know the tops so I'm thinkin she's comin home. Stay all night drinkin enjoying myself and comes time to go and she says thanks and asks for tip. Damn! I've been had. 2nd time I come in on a Friday evening and there has to be 3 guys for every girl in the place. I'm in and out. 3rd time I went to the discos by gongti with some friends. Have some fun see some lookers but nothin happenin there. So I go to Maggie's after at 2am. Get pounced on by 3 tagged girls but what the hell. I'm drunk their cute and fun. We drink costs a bundle but I'm enjoying myself. So one shy girl and one outgoing girl. Both sexy as any I've seen. As we're playin I'm feelin a little competition between them. So I test my luck and ask ms shy girl to meet me. She says yes! I can't believe my luck cause I've learned the deal. I go back to the hotel. She gives me her number but says be very secretive. I think she won't show up. But she does. And with a gift for me no less! Sex was ok, she was still shy but hey I bagged a tagged girl. No complaints.

I've tried 2 more times since then with different girls and not even close to getting any outside action. Some nights you just get lucky.

[Canucklehead64]

I am a well posted member of a canadian forum in around toronto. But I have only lurked here and feel I should try and contribute in some way now I am living here. I tried a couple outcalls and to no avail with no one either responding or unable to full full my requests at that time of the morning. I am an early riser.

Now over the years I found Maggie's was always reliable and worth the money with the Mongolian girls. Now the Chinese girls I have met there. And they all seem to by Lily Lisa. Amy. Well not so great.

Recently I was introduced to a English tour guide named Lily (ironically). She introduced me to a friend of hers (ummmm Amy) that is also a tour guide but is a PTer on the side. Greta little body friendly and a lot of fun. She was shy at first. But after some DATY she opened up to about anything and even suggested next time she bring a friend. Which she did. Now she wanted 1500 at first but we settled around 800 for a non rushed 2 and half hour mid morning to early afternoon romp.

I am still trying to explore the other parts of Beijing's hobbying and will try and contribute more. Not sure how the PM thing works yet but if you want info fire me off a pm.

Thanks in advance. On terb the other board in Canada I am Canucklehead.

Cheers

[Staid Lo]

i was at one of the guomao area mps (one of the expensive ones in van palace) last week. the first girl assigned didn't want to do fs, because it was that time of month. so after she massaged me, and i insisted, they sent in a different girl.

it took a few minutes to get her into the mood, a little touching, etc. because i had already had the massage (note that i believe getting the massage helps warm her up as much as you, and this was proof). once she relaxed she lay down on the table for some kissing, then to receive some oral. she got fairly worked up over that, but then i moved up and started giving her a medium-aggressive g-spot massage.

at first she resisted. not sure she had ever had one like this. but it took only a few seconds for her to realize this was something fine. she lay back and started moaning sweetly. before long (this kind of g-spot action never takes long) , she was cumming, and suddenly started crying out "i make water! i make water!" and sure enough, she surprised us both by squirting. not heavily, like the porn stars (who are usually just peeing) , but still quite wet.

this is the first time i've had an asian pro squirt.

she then started asking me if she could be my girlfriend, ha! she's a sweetie.

i think her name is sasha, or sa sa, or xia xia, in one of the van palace mps.

pm for the specific one. (all disclosure rights reserved.)

gm.i want to thank you gm for the recommendation. the place is very residential even though it's in a commercial building, without gm instruction, i don't think i was able to find it. i hesitated when i knocked, but luckily her uniform (in short sleeve polo and short) was welcoming enough to lower my guard.

went in, asked the different types of massage, was led to a room with 2 beds + shower, pretty big, and clean, dimly lit with mesmerizing kenny g type music playing the background. i opted for the 180 1. 5 hr with no hint of any special service. on my face, she gave me an ok massage on back, and leg. we chatted to find out a bit about her background, take it with a grain of salt of course. 45 mins into it, she flipped me over, massage my shoulder and chest. then she asked if i wanted something special, quoted me 2 prices. 500 for hj. 2x for breast job. she was hot selling the breast job, but at the end, i opted with hj. being a newbie and not thinking with my big head, i didn't negotiate as i didn't know what the going price is for place like this. to cut the story short, i got a hj for 500 + 180 for the massage, your hands can wander but she was fully clothed. again, in hindsight, i should've demanded to have her stripped. overall, the pvp is not very high as i should've been a price-conscious consumer and negotiate! it was the same js as gm had, her look is a 6 (not pretty, but not butt ugly) , tall (170cm+) , athletic build, she said she has a nice rack but i can't verify as she was fu*king clothed during the session. she told me there are about 4 js in that place total, and business is very slow. i would probably go back 1 more time for a fs session and negotiate.

staid

[Staid Lo]

Was in Wangjing the other day and figured I'd check out one of the massage parlors there.

Vaguely remembering a few posts from here I made my way to the Si Qu (4 complex) , it's across the road from the subway exit C. Ended up at building 418, which had a sign for massage above a doorway to the basement. Headed down and found the entrance to the parlor to the right of the bottom of the stairs. No one at the desk, but the reception girl soon appeared to my cries of "you ren ma?" She said something I didn't understand, until I realised she was trying to speak English: oila massaga. Was led to a small room with a large bed and offered coffee or tea.

After a few minutes the girl arrived, short and cute if a little chubby. Seemed young, had a good attitude. She got pretty chatty once she realised I could speak Chinese. I was told to get fully undress and lie on my front. Started with a back massage but wasnt long till she headed south. Nice sensual massage with some mutual touching, HJ at the end. 160rmb for 90 mins.

From the sounds of the neighbouring room, more might be avail but she didn't offer and I didn't bother asking.Had a meeting last week in WJ, took a taxi to Si Qu for 10 rmb, I didn't know it was that close. It was around 6pm, and started to get dark. I asked around for 417 & 418 (didn't know which) , walked into the complex, quite a few MPs. Most of them with Korean writing. Finally found 417, walked around the building, saw a rundown MP with green window frame on the 1st floor, the sign was in Chinese, didn't go it as it is too well lit. Walked to next building and found 418, again, walked around the building, found a SPA / Massage called "Lian something" on 2nd floor of the building entrance facing the street. Hm, looked to legit, go to the back again, went into the building. There is NO stair that leads to the basement, the doors to the stairs were all locked. Damn. Walked out as I was about to give up, I saw a sign that I thought was a supermarket with Korean writing, then I saw the word Massage. It's too dark to be noticeable, I followed 's DidNoob (big THANKS for DidNoob's post) direction and walked down the gentle stair to find the MP on the right.

The girl@the front desk was kneading something, didn't think she cared if I was there. I asked for massage, and she looked at me and said what kind. I had no clue, she pointed me to the list on the wall, and chose the most expensive 1, I think it's 180 for 1. 5 hr. She said it's for head and face, WTF. So I chose the 2nd most expensive it's 150 for 1. 5 hr I think. She said it involved a lot of twisting of joints, WTF. I told her I wanted Oil massage. She pointed me it's 60rmb for 30mins, that's the only 1 they had. Ok, fine. For someone working at the front desk, she definitely needed some major upgrade on her attitude and customer service training.

I was shown to the room with 2 small beds and she got me a cup of tea. 2 mins later, the JS in her late 20, short, with long dark hair, slim legs, village look, and a bit of fat on the waist, but not heavy. She gave me something to change into and told me to take the top off. I lay down, and she proceeded to give 1 of the meanest massage that I needed after a long day of meetings, loosen up all the knots in the neck and back. Again, we continued to have conversation thru out, confirming her age, background, and found out something about her that would put FS off-limit. At any rate, all these time she was massage my shoulder and back, instead of going to the side of the bed, she stood in front of the bed where my head was and push her groin in my face. Is that a hint of things to come? .

After about 1/2 hr, she said so you wanted the 160 for 1. 5 hr massage, right? I said, I think so, and I told her that that wasn't on the pricelist outside. She said they didn't know I wanted that kind of massage, ok. I didn't know how to ask for it, it was my 1st time! She said not to worry, she knew what to do. She then locked the door, and after another 1/2 hr of really really good massage before she lubed my butt & a, prostate, and had me kneeled so she could stroke me from the back. Got me all worked up, thought she was going to plant her face and give me a good rimming, no chance.

I flipped over, my hand did a bit of wandering. Ok, she is NOT 1 of the nubile tight body (she is in her late 20) but I needed something to get me excited, and as I was close to shoot I grabbed her hand with a bit of pressure, she knew I was close to hitting the jackpot, she then moved 1 hand down to the base, tighten the valve while the other hand continue to go up and down the shaft. That immediately control my urge to fire, while at the same time, continued to be excited by the top action. Slowly she released the base, then did the magic with both hands to get me to the edge again, and repeat. It was a very effective technique to get me last a bit longer while continued to feel excited. After 3-4 times, she put a small towel on my stomach and let me blew the load. Wow, it was a great relieve! She left the room to soak the towel with some hot water and helped me clean up.

Afterward, she took me out to the front and I paid 160 (no tip was asked or given). She told me her, and asked me to look her up next time. Although it's quite far from where I stayed, for that price, the ROI is very high. I will definitely go back, not necessary for her (she said there are about 10+ JS working@that place) , after I explored other MP in the vicinity.

Thanks again for the ISG bros posting great information about MPs in the form. Will do some exploring and recon on my own next time I am in Beijing and report back my experience.

Staid

[Niteluvr]

i would recommend xiu at the park hyatt hotel as a far better choice to take your lady friend. much better atmosphere and, to my taste, considerably better eye-candy.

having said that, now it has a live band, maggies is more welcoming to a "civilian". the underlying business model of the place is still very apparent though.thanks for the tip. will mention it to my civvie. still would like to take a peek inside maggie's due to all the sexy mongols. imo, they have better curves than most chinese.

[Chu Xiang Yu]

Alexis came to the door at 12am after a drinking session with my kakis. Tall and sweet looking girl. Completely girlfriend feeling.Hey Aneh69,

Are you malaysian? Cause you surely talk like one. I too staying in beijing. Want to meet up some day and go mongring together? BTW you sure those pictures in that blog of your are real pictures of those girls? Would like to try one someday.

Yu

[Jude Bright]

Got a few hours yesterday afternoon and think to have some fun. Call up Lilly at about 2 pm, was told will

Call me back in 10 minutes. Got an text message about 10 miuntes later and said there are no

One available, period. That is the end of the story, even no offer in a later time. I treat this as refuse beccause I am Chinese?

Then, went to Andingmen where has been described several times before. My usual gal, #8 was out of town. Got the number 18. The service was.

Excellent. But the place, I mean the facility was terriable. It was stone cold when.

I went in, got an electric heater, it took about 20 minutes to warm up the room.

At least, I got what I need on time.

If you want to experience this place during the winter, be prepare to brave.

The cold room and got your own towels, tooth brush if you want to use, and you own watch if you want to count the time in the room.

JB

[Saiyajin]

Got a few hours yesterday afternoon and think to have some fun. Call up Lilly at about 2 pm, was told will

Then, went to Andingmen where has been described several times before. My usual gal, #8 was out of town. Got the number 18. The service was.

Excellent. But the place, I mean the facility was terriable. It was stone cold when.

I went in, got an electric heater, it took about 20 minutes to warm up the room.

At least, I got what I need on time.

If you want to experience this place during the winter, be prepare to brave.

The cold room and got your own towels, tooth brush if you want to use, and you own watch if you want to count the time in the room.

JBJB, I definitely can feel that when I'm exploring the MPs out in the 'cun' (or villages) of Shunyi. Although the prices of definitely below 200 RMB as GM stated, there comes a point where any matter how hard the girls try, your 'willy' just can't function properly in near zero conditions! Moreover, they don't feel that comfortable taking off their clothing as well. So I think I'll just move to warmer surroundings until Spring next year.

There are a few places around Wangjing. Particularly the 400s & 300s that other posters had mentioned earlier (e. G. 405, 418 basement) that you can try. The rooms there are much more warmer & cleaner plus the girls appear less jaded for just a few yuan more. However, most will just give you a HJ & maybe more if you're a repeat customer at off-rush hours. I shall try to summarise more later on.

[Mr Roboto]

BTW you sure those pictures in that blog of your are real pictures of those girls? Would like to try one someday.This is China. Assume all pictures posted are fake. Also, this sounds like an ad, so if you do end up trying it be sure to share the results.

[Member #4144]

This is China. Assume all pictures posted are fake. Also, this sounds like an ad, so if you do end up trying it be sure to share the results.Yes, that Aneh69 post was definitely an ad, but I am surprised Jason has not removed it yet as it has URL link that is not supposed to be allowed, must be the holidays and Jason did not have a chance to clean things up.

Fillmore

[White Dragon]

Good advice. Can score well with some investment in chatting / dating. All my best experiences in China I've met online. Non working girls. Date them one night, screw them the next. Made some good friends that I always ended up having a good time with. Even some girls I would 'break off' from would contact me many months later for surprise orgies.


Chinese is not a must, you can select english speaking girls in qq world friends dating site, chat with them by qq / msn / yahoo whatever first a few days, NEVER talk about sex, but don't promise any love or marriage too!

Just tell them you want find new friends to spend time, meet them, be nice and friendly. After 1-2 hours you will know, if something will happen or not.

Quality is usually very good, these girls know what they want. And most have some experience. If they never had boyfriend before than stop chatting, it means they did not have sex before, and nothing will happen!

Here my last 2 success stories:

1. Chatted one english teacher / and part time painter / artist girl. 32 years old, earns good money and has a 4 room appartment near 3rd ring road.

She was looking for a friend and maybe more. So we met for dinner after a few chattings by msn, we had a nice evening, but nothing happend, just a small kiss bye-bye.

Next day I called her again, we did some shopping in afternoon and than she invited me for dinner in her home and have a relaxed evening, watching dvd.

We bought some pizza and wine went to her home, and the movie hasnt finished we deep kissed on the sofa already. She let me touch her, but made clear no sex tonight.

Later I said it is better I move back to my hotel, because I am not the guy who is searching fast sex only and better sleep in my own bed, and off I go.

WTF, wasted an evening again, took a taxi to maggies, and before I arrived got a sms, and the girl asked me to come back please. I told her to come to my hotel and 15 min later we arrived almost same time there.

Once in the room we continued dfk and soon we were completely undressed and had a very long night. Wow she knew how to BBBJ. Next morning she did not need to work so, we stayed in bed until lunch time.

We spend 1 more night together than I told her I have to leave beijing and said byebye. Still we chat every week now. Cannot wait to come back to beijing next month.

2. Chatted to one sales staff of a five star hotel, too. Met her in qq worldfriends dating site. She spoke perfect english. 27 years, slim, pretty. Met for dinner and it was very clear after one hour that we will end up in my bed.

After dinner I took her to a small bar, we had some cocktails, started kissing, and later we went to my hotel without any discussing. This girl was not very experienced, she did not know BJ, but was eager to learn and got very hot. We had 2 perfect nights,

Until I really had to leave beijing. Still in contact with her too.

So, with a bit of effort, means chatting, and one or two dinner (the girls even insisted to pay the dinner, haha, but I paid for it anyway) , than anyting is possible. 4 of my best sex nights in China for zero cost,

And I found 2 good friends, with no any promisses made on both sides.

Most important, treat them nice as a gentleman, NEVER talk about sex, they will pay back, they are not used this kind of nice attention. Never promisse them love or worse. Marriage. That will not be fair to them as they are not professionals, they still will hope for the mr. Right to bring them to europe or america.

NEVER give them your real phone number or email address. Buy a Chinese sim card and use a seperate email for contacting these girls, specially if you have wife at home.

NEVER tell them your real name, but stick with your lifestory as close to reality as possible. So you will not mix up the facts (like birthdate, living place, brothers sisters etc)

You need to invest some time for this, or just go to maggies and pay 1000 rmb.

Have fun.

Thomas Jefferson

[Becker34]

Just met up with Alexis:

22 years old. 165 cm. 50kg. 32c-21-34Beijing girl.

Called Fiona from the blog:

http://www.************.blog.com/

She came over, looked exactly like the pic on the blog. Told me that most of the pictures on the blog are pictures of real girls. Seems that most are personal friends of Fiona. But expensive! 1000RMB and above but you get the real deal!

Alexis came to the door at 12am after a drinking session with my kakis. Tall and sweet looking girl. Completely girlfriend feeling.

BJ: 8/10.

FJ: 9/10.

GFE: 10/10.

But do note that girls from this website are not full-timers according to her. Most of them have a day job and do not lack $$$. Most of her friends are just looking for fun or lao wai boyfriends! Oh well, Alexis is definitely RTF!

Will try others in Fiona's stable soon and post!Called this service and arranged the day before to have someone come at noon. All confirmed. 12 oclock arrives and passes. No one came. I sent some texts and no response. Nothing. My experience would give it a definite thumbs down. Love to hear if anyone else has better luck.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Good advice. Can score well with some investment in chatting / dating. All my best experiences in China I've met online. Non working girls. Date them one night, screw them the next. Made some good friends that I always ended up having a good time with. Even some girls I would 'break off' from would contact me many months later for surprise orgies.Yepp, good times, still chatting with them from time to time, one girl is so hot and horny, she sends me small vids of herself at least once a week, when she doing it with her fingers, hahaha.

Just be careful with these girls, specially if you have family at home, they will not stop to follow you, but will give you good time in return, too.

I love China and its girls.

Thomas Jefferson

[Niteluvr]

Do the Beijing girls who advertise massage services on Craigslist post their real pics? For example: http://beijing.craigslist.com.cn/ths/2760343430.html (link to her pic is in the ad)

I prefer slender but busty women so I'm wondering if the girls use their real pics or someone totally different shows up at the door?

[Loveasiangirls]

Do the Beijing girls who advertise massage services on Craigslist post their real pics? For example:

http://beijing.craigslist.com.cn/ths/2760343430.html

(link to her pic is in the ad)

I prefer slender but busty women so I'm wondering if the girls use their real pics or someone totally different shows up at the door?Only if you also believe in Santa.

[Kajos]

The pics are usually not their real pics. You often find the same phone number posted in multiple ads with differing descriptions. The ad you linked to, for example, has a phone number which was used in a previous add for a different girl.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lue6HJkj6z4J:classifieds.chinadaily.com/%3Fview%3Dshowad%26adid%3D145933%26cityid%3D1%26lang%3Den+18801046675&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us.


Do the Beijing girls who advertise massage services on Craigslist post their real pics? For example:

http://beijing.craigslist.com.cn/ths/2760343430.html

(link to her pic is in the ad)

I prefer slender but busty women so I'm wondering if the girls use their real pics or someone totally different shows up at the door?

[Niteluvr]

The pics are usually not their real pics. You often find the same phone number posted in multiple ads with differing descriptions. The ad you linked to, for example, has a phone number which was used in a previous add for a different girl.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lue6HJkj6z4J:classifieds.chinadaily.com/

%3Fview%3Dshowad%26adid%3D145933%26cityid%3D1%26lang%3Den+18801046675&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us.OK, thanks. That said, when you call an ad number, can you request and get a busty woman? Do they honor special requests such as Greek?

[Teltel]

Do the Beijing girls who advertise massage services on Craigslist post their real pics? For example:

http://beijing.craigslist.com.cn/ths/2760343430.html

(link to her pic is in the ad)

I prefer slender but busty women so I'm wondering if the girls use their real pics or someone totally different shows up at the door?Sometimes these ads are run by dating agencies hence the same number, the idea being to catch as wide a response as possible for the.

Agency's clients. Some Chinese women pay a lot for successful intro's.

Teltel

[Thomas Jefferson]

There is one very nice webapp called "tineye"

If you install this you can check fotos just by left clicking on them, if this fotos is used in other websites.

Try to check some of the craiglist fotos, usually I get 10-20 results of this foto, which was used in japanese / taiwanese porn sites.

99% of the fotos are fake and copied. No "student" or "amateur" makes such good fotos with perfect lights and professional setup.

According to my experience, craiglist is almost impossible to get what they promisse, of course they promisse everything on the phone.

Whatever service / looks you ask, they will have, but never will show up to your hotelroom.

Greetings

Thomas Jefferson.

P. S. Tried it twice by myself, than never again.

[Yuluckimi]

I only can confirm that the service provided by Lilly is not that good and expensive. When I called, I had to negotiate everyting with the girl. She only could speak mandarin and google will help but only so far. I neede to pay extra for every little thing and at the and and finished it to get her out of my way.

I don't know her sevice in the past, but for me they are used to to many and too easy clients.


Got a few hours yesterday afternoon and think to have some fun. Call up Lilly at about 2 pm, was told will

Call me back in 10 minutes. Got an text message about 10 miuntes later and said there are no

One available, period. That is the end of the story, even no offer in a later time. I treat this as refuse beccause I am Chinese?

Then, went to Andingmen where has been described several times before. My usual gal, #8 was out of town. Got the number 18. The service was.

Excellent. But the place, I mean the facility was terriable. It was stone cold when.

I went in, got an electric heater, it took about 20 minutes to warm up the room.

At least, I got what I need on time.

If you want to experience this place during the winter, be prepare to brave.

The cold room and got your own towels, tooth brush if you want to use, and you own watch if you want to count the time in the room.

JB

[GodfatherVit]

Hello Folks, I'm new to this forum and will be in Beijing from Jan 5. 11. Wanted some recommendations on mongering. Looking for local Chinese girls who have been tried and tested. I looked through the threads here and read up about Fiona. Are there any other providers like her that folks here have tried out? Also, is Maggie's really all that its made out to be? I don't mind dropping $s on drinks and dinner as long as the end result is great. Any help or advice will be much appreciated.

Godfather

[GregoryB]

Hello, Folks, I'm new to this forum and will be in Beijing from Jan 5. 11. Wanted some recommendations on mongering. Looking for local Chinese girls who have been tried and tested. I looked through the threads here and read up about Fiona. Are there any other providers like her that folks here have tried out? Also, is Maggie's really all that its made out to be? I don't mind dropping $s on drinks and dinner as long as the end result is great. Any help or advice will be much appreciated.

GodfatherMay be I can help you, but please PM me.

GregoryB

[Victorian]

After attending a seminar full of gorgeous university student types, I felt like some delicious "room service".

I used Angel a couple of times about a year ago and found her very good. This time I thought I'd try a new one: "Fiona in Beijing".

I didn't even bother "ordering" from the photos on the assumption they are all fake, and in any case not all the girls would be available. So I texted Fiona to see if she had any very pretty, slim girls who would do a good service. Fiona replied immediately that she could send someone "nice" and asked when and what address.

About 45 minutes later a light knock on door and a university student looking girl was standing there. She looked a bit unsure on seeing me; I am still wondering if she knew beforehand it would be a foreigner. She also couldn't speak even a word of English, so communication was pretty tough.

Still, she was very slim and petite and gorgeous. And also looked like a nice educated girl, not some roughie from the street. I just wish I could speak Chinese so I could talk to her.

I tried to communicate with her using yahoo babelfish and google online translations, but you need Chinese characters to make that work. I'll have to set my notebook up with that so the girl can type Chinese characters and we can have at least some communication.

She seemed very sweet and innocent at first: a bit like a first time with a GF who's not quite sure of you.

However, once in bed and I went slow and gentle with a long hug (she wasn't that nieve as she was caressing the old fella the whole time we were hugging) and then DATY, she warmed up really well.

I was expecting her BJ to be pretty weak, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was really good. She went pretty deep with very good suction and no sign of rushing through it.

On with the cover and then nice missionary and a bit of her on top. A very nice HJ finish all over her gorgeous tight body. Looked so good.

So a slow start, but I was really happy with Fiona's service and the girl she sent. A real sweetie.

The girl's name is Nico and the price is 800rmb plus taxi. One thing to note is I read later on the website that Nico is slim and busty. Slim, definitely, busty, not even close. Not busty, but a really nice shape with a beautiful slim body and a very pretty face. She told me her age was 22.

So overall a great experience. Just be as specific as you can with what you want when you text Fiona. I'd be very interested to try some of the other "fiona" girls.

The website is http://www.************.blog.com/

Happy New Year all

[SteelBaton]

Hello, Folks, I'm new to this forum and will be in Beijing from Jan 5. 11. Wanted some recommendations on mongering. Looking for local Chinese girls who have been tried and tested. I looked through the threads here and read up about Fiona. Are there any other providers like her that folks here have tried out? Also, is Maggie's really all that its made out to be? I don't mind dropping $s on drinks and dinner as long as the end result is great. Any help or advice will be much appreciated.

GodfatherGodfather, you could not have read more than the last 2 pages of the thread if the only outcall provider you see any information on is Fiona. See my detailed reports on three others from early December.

Why can't people spend at least 20 minutes reading what is already posted? It takes 15-30 minutes for contributors to write and post meaningful reports it would be nice if newbies would read them! Please before you make your first post one asking a very basic question, read the past 10 pages or so of the thread. You will probably find your basic question answered and more details provided than you need

[Niteluvr]

Can anyone recommend a good alternative nightclub besides Maggie's to find rental pussy? If there is North Korean rental pussy to be had in Beijing, that would be my target. Other than that, Chinese, Mongolian or any other is fine. Just want a a good alternative to Maggie's.

[GodfatherVit]

SteelBaton, fair enough. I looked through about 4-5 pages but not 10. Per your suggestion, I'll read through your old posts.


Godfather, you could not have read more than the last 2 pages of the thread if the only outcall provider you see any information on is Fiona. See my detailed reports on three others from early December.

Why can't people spend at least 20 minutes reading what is already posted? It takes 15-30 minutes for contributors to write and post meaningful reports it would be nice if newbies would read them! Please before you make your first post one asking a very basic question, read the past 10 pages or so of the thread. You will probably find your basic question answered and more details provided than you need

[GodfatherVit]

Thanks for the great review, Victorian. One question, is Nico's picture (I know she doesn't show her face completely) on the blog accurate?


After attending a seminar full of gorgeous university student types, I felt like some delicious "room service".

I used Angel a couple of times about a year ago and found her very good. This time I thought I'd try a new one: "Fiona in Beijing".

I didn't even bother "ordering" from the photos...

[Victorian]

Hi Godfather.

I had a look at her pic on the blog after.

I'm sure it's not her, but it does look a very similar type to the real Nico.

As long as the description is pretty accurate, I'm not too fussed by not having revealing photos.

The ideal would be to have real pics with the faces blanked out. Definitely websites should not put real pics up with the faces showing. Too dangerous for the girl.

Fiona was very cooperative, even sending a text after asking how the girl was. So good service and she seems to have a lot of young, pretty girls.

Nico was from Szechuan and I'm guessing that a lot of "Fiona's girls" are from that region. Chinese have often told me the prettiest girls are from Chengdu and Hangzhou and my experience is that Chengdu girls are very nice.

Enjoy.


Thanks for the great review, Victorian. One question, is Nico's picture (I know she doesn't show her face completely) on the blog accurate?

[Forbidden Kid]

hey guys it has been a while, what i have to report for you guys comes from an outcall. yes, yes, i know people get flamed for sounding like a guerilla asshole so instead of advertising i am

going to keep whose outcall this comes from to myself unless i get pmed.

it has been a while since i partook in the hot act of coitus so my package was revving to go since i got up. sent a text to my source and asked her for someone with a nice overall package. she replied with a it shall be arranged. around an hour later i got a call from the gal asking where exactly i was. since i live in an apartment complex i always get a good chance to check out the.

wares before going through with it. being winter i only had the vibe to rely on the vibe was good. very talkative and interesting conversation.

now the stats of this gal:

age: probably 26 or 27.

face: i would give her a 7/10 at best, but it is the sex that counts right?

skill: a solid 8, points were subtracted because of lfk and no touching of her puss puss (daty allowed though)

her puss puss:too hairy but under that forest is a very nice shape.

boobs: solid a borderline b.

on with the sex:

everything starts with a massage. her massage skills were ok but being as playful as she is i let it slide. this lasted around 30 minutes then without much notice she pulled down my pants and started the teasing finger touching of my ass and inner thighs. little bro is up and running and right as i was ready to pounce and taste the sweetness between her thighs she pushed me.

down and said she had to go [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). such a tease this one is, i had her shower before she came by, so when she came out of the bathroom dressed in a see through dress i was rock hard and

ready to penetrate. as she lay on top of me licking me all over and slow tugging me my hands were on her ass spanking and squeezing, every time i made a perfect spank sound she would.

give a small moan and said it hurt. with her tongue slowly reaching my lb i couldn't help but flip her so i could daty her while she worked on my tool.

it was very hairy but only on the upper groin part; unlike those who have hair even on the side of the lips. so as i tongued the alphabet she was deep throating and ball sucking to point of pre-cum oozing out. although the whole presentation of the bbbj was not like those in japanese avs, the skills involved were very much similar and the feeling was gf-like. after a good 10

minutes of 69 she went to cap me and slowly oozed me into cg. her riding skills were phenomenal with the back and forth and the occasionally lying on top. no squatting though so it wasn't

long before i got up into the lotus position and fucked her while she had her arms wrapped around neck and softly licking / kissing / biting my ears and neck. after lotus i went into missionary where everything got hot and rough. with her saying dirty things into my ear i drilled and did a three times fast and two time slow until she started moaning, at which point i went full on fast

pumping and the moaning became hard fast gasps. as i got tired after 5 minutes i got up to change positions but after seeing the hint of red on her face, the dirty smile and her mouthing the words fuck me i continued the same position but had her legs up so i could fuck her with my dick pushing against the upper part of her pussy.

i get bored easily so i wanted to try something new and told her to hold on to me. what came after surprised both me and her: i stood up and fucked her while she had this terrified look on

her face. but after seeing that if she held on she wouldn't fall so she started getting into it and rubbing herself against me while i am inside hard like a rock. even being young has its limits so i laid her down and got soft because of her initial scare. so she ripped off my condom and started sucking me with me standing and her on her knees. with the use of her spit and her mouth she got me going again and we continued in doggy style. this is where she doesn't it as much because of her not arching her back and cooperating but her whimpers edged me on and with

each pump i feel her wanting me to cum as she tightened her pussy and just like that i pulled out, flipped her over and came onto her stomach.

as we cleaned up we chatted and flirted (in a customer / servicer way) and after we got out she rubbed her tiny firm ass against my cock and get me hard again. but since we only had two

condoms between the two of us we had to get a rain check for the next time. although her face isn't the best in the world, her gfe made up for it.

enjoy!

[SteelBaton]

Hey guys it has been a while,

Enjoy!Nice post! Makes me wish I were in BJ right now. I have always had good luck with the outcall providers, but there are certainly some bad reports.

[SteelBaton]

Can anyone recommend a good alternative nightclub besides Maggie's to find rental pussy? If there is North Korean rental pussy to be had in Beijing, that would be my target. Other than that, Chinese, Mongolian or any other is fine. Just want a a good alternative to Maggie's.North Korean! Now that sounds interesting. I guess one wouldn't need to worry about her being too fat. Let us hear how that works out. As I mentioned in December post, I have seen very nice working girls in the Park Hyatt bar Xiu, but this is mostly just an upscale bar hotel bar with a small percentage of the women being P4P. The Pig and Thistle bar has a variety of older girls most nights. And some of the senior members have great posts on other potential places.

But seriously, if you find any North Korean pussy, please PM me!

[Niteluvr]

North Korean! Now that sounds interesting. I guess one wouldn't need to worry about her being too fat. Let us hear how that works out. As I mentioned in December post, I have seen very nice working girls in the Park Hyatt bar Xiu, but this is mostly just an upscale bar hotel bar with a small percentage of the women being P4P. The Pig and Thistle bar has a variety of older girls most nights. And some of the senior members have great posts on other potential places.

But seriously, if you find any North Korean pussy, please PM me!Well, from reading the posts I'm under the impression that North Korean pussy can be found on Xi Ta street (Korean mile) in Shenyang, but since I'll be in Beijing most of the time in the latter part of February, I'd like to find NK pussy there. I'm sure it's available, if only for those poorly paid NK waitresses at restaurants to earn a little extra cash. Got a feeling that, with all their brainwashing, they wouldn't be too foreigner friendly. Still, I'd like to give it a try if someone can recommend a club or other venue to hit on NK women.

[Jude Bright]

After attending a seminar full of gorgeous university student types, I felt like some delicious "room service".

I used Angel a couple of times about a year ago and found her very good. This time I thought I'd try a new one: "Fiona in Beijing".

I didn't even bother "ordering" from the photos on the assumption they are all fake, and in any case not all the girls would be available. So I texted Fiona to see if she had any very pretty, slim girls who would do a good service. Fiona replied immediately that she could send someone "nice" and asked when and what address.

About 45 minutes later a light knock on door and a university student looking girl was standing there. She looked a bit unsure on seeing me; I am still wondering if she knew beforehand it would be a foreigner. She also couldn't speak even a word of English, so communication was pretty tough.

Still, she was very slim and petite and gorgeous. And also looked like a nice educated girl, not some roughie from the street. I just wish I could speak Chinese so I could talk to her.

I tried to communicate with her using yahoo babelfish and google online translations, but you need Chinese characters to make that work. I'll have to set my notebook up with that so the girl can type Chinese characters and we can have at least some communication.

She seemed very sweet and innocent at first: a bit like a first time with a GF who's not quite sure of you.

However, once in bed and I went slow and gentle with a long hug (she wasn't that nieve as she was caressing the old fella the whole time we were hugging) and then DATY, she warmed up really well.

I was expecting her BJ to be pretty weak, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was really good. She went pretty deep with very good suction and no sign of rushing through it.

On with the cover and then nice missionary and a bit of her on top. A very nice HJ finish all over her gorgeous tight body. Looked so good.

So a slow start, but I was really happy with Fiona's service and the girl she sent. A real sweetie.

The girl's name is Nico and the price is 800rmb plus taxi. One thing to note is I read later on the website that Nico is slim and busty. Slim, definitely, busty, not even close. Not busty, but a really nice shape with a beautiful slim body and a very pretty face. She told me her age was 22.

So overall a great experience. Just be as specific as you can with what you want when you text Fiona. I'd be very interested to try some of the other "fiona" girls.

The website is http://www.************.blog.com/

Happy New Year allFelt along over the new year eve in Beijing, I decided to try Fiona. After Texted back and forth several times, Fiona finally agree send Nico to my hotel, but ask for 1000 plus taxi fare. I thought it was too much But she was firm on the price. I could not agree, then decided to try Angel. Angel quickly resposed to me and agree send me qiqi to me for 600 plus taxi fare. I stayed in a hotel about half hour away from downtown. To my surprise, qiqi called me 10 minutes later and informed me she is on the way and will arrive in about 10 minutes and she did.

She is very professional and provided good services. I will definite repeat later.

I gave her 600 plus 200 tips / taxii and she was happy, even thank me for that.

JB.

JB

[Staid Lo]

Here is link to post to SEAJ:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1150765&viewfull=1#post1150765

Went with a bunch of colleagues after a long day of meetings, at first I thought that place was closed, and to my surprise it was still opened, even the Japanese drinking bar on the 2nd floor still open for business. As the door opened, I saw a tall girl wearing the "manager" outfit welcoming me at the elevator, and immediately we both recognized each other. She turned out to be the girl who sat with me when I was there eon ago, she is now a manager. I still remember they used to have games, and 1 of the ones we played was identify your lover, and she was the 1 with the biggest and softest bean bags that I thought they belonged to my friend's girl (apparently with pushup bar). Anyway, she gave me a big hug and led me to the room. She introduced her friend to sit with me. Her friend had this exotic look like a xinjiang girl, but she said she was from changsha. At any rate, business was pretty slow, and the manager ended staying in our room chatting, drinking, and reminiscing the good old time. The changsha girl was a prima donna, so I letted her play dice games w / my colleagues while I focused on the manager's big juggs, after we had a few drinks, I got a bit tipsy and we sorta "make out" on the way to the bathroom. I know her alcohol tolerance is pretty high, and given the state of business it's just her job to reel in returning customers, but still, the fact that she played along and wearing a low cut jacket revealing nice cleavage really gets my attention, especially after a few drinks.

Long story short, the place was pretty dead, the lineup had a few fresh faces, but without the games, it's killing the business, counting on irregular returning customers is not a sound business model. They promoted younger sexier managers to pull customers in, but they still need to get creative to differentiate them from other joints without attracting too much unwanted attention in order to stay in business.

Cheers,

Staid

[Saiyajin]

This was just updated (from my MAY 2011 report) to correct an error. What I listed as Bldg 417 should be Bldg 419.

This area is a playground for those looking for pretty Ok massages with HJ / HE. All places are legit massage parlors where some go for regular massages including foot massages. But I think most of their biz is male customers looking for a little extra. Except for one place listed below that offers breast massages, the menu is the same at all: regular massage + HE. Individual girls may offer extras depending on if they like you or their own preferences. Most will allow breast fondling and removal of bra (but usually not take shirt off). A few will allow their outer pants to come off or at pull them down a bit to expose their panties. None have on-site sex as standard service, though I was offered this once. It's not unheard of that some providers will offer more services or sex if they come to your apartment or hotel. Best to go the place in person for on-site service. If you think a girl has potential for more, you can try your luck with a home visit. Often when the massage is done at an off-site location the girls will strip down to their panties or be nude.

[LOCATION: the entrance of SI QU (400s) area is near the new Wangjing Subway station-new extension line from Wangjing West. By car, go from Si Yuan Qiao along Jing Mi Road, turn Left at second road after Fourth Ring Road (Guangshun South St; go about 4 blocks until you pass the big shopping mall HUA LIAN (with big ZARA sign) on left. It's the next corner-turn right and you are at entrance to SI QU (400s) and this gate of SI QU is opposite the Wangjing subway]Gentlemen,

Here's my post-2011 update on the (in) famous MP at the 300s & 400s of Wangjing. Directions to the (in) famous MPs are shown in Mojo888 earlier posting above. My advice. Take the subway line 15 & go out exit C.

My hat tip thanks to the previous posters, Mojo888, Thomas Jefferson, Staid Lo and Didnoob that had graciously led me to explore a nicer & warmer place to monger this winter. There had been a big 'sweeping yellow' raid back in November with some arrests made which scared most ladies into just providing HJ / HE. It could take some time (possibly after the Chinese New Years' & the big political meetings) for things to heat up again.

The 400s (Si Qu) :

405: As Thomas Jefferson mentioned, the European style massage is priced at RMB 168 per 90 minutes. The ladies there could do more than the usual HJ for a price. Minimum for a FS, CBJ & DATY I bargained down to was around RMB 350. Girls were professional – both friendly & open. Massage was ok – nothing special to write here about.

418: As Staid Lo & DidNoob stated, this local MP has arguably the best return on investment (ROI) , or shall I say return per ejaculation (RPJ) on any HJ / HE in Wangjing. Just go for the 'oila massaga' for RMB 168/90 minutes. It's well worth your time & effort – check out Staid Lo's vivid descriptions for details.

Aside the excellent HJ / HE, I believe their massage skills range from average to terrific but any inkling for FS remains solely at the discretion of the provider (I. E. Are you a repeating & familiar customer? Price?). I hadn't received a FS there yet but still hoping.

419: I think the basement one is now gone. The MP with the 'barber shop' totem & Korean characters upstairs next to the Terrace just has two sad-looking cougars that hadn't seen any type of business for a long long time. I asked them for the massage duration & pricing & they just snorted only 40 minutes at RMB 60. Definitely not worth your time & effort.

There are a host of other MPs are located past the locked gates within the 400s that I hadn't try but had a short glimpse inside. Most were offering the standard price of RMB 168 for 60 to 80 minutes and quality of the providers were rather average.

The 300s (San Qu) :

To get there, just walk across Wangjing Street from the 400s.

303: One of my favourite MP to take in both a foot & body massage. The rooms are bright, clean & tidy with a nice Queen. Standard price of the Oil massage at RMB 168 for 90 minutes but the ladies may provide more the usual HJ / HE for the right price. I received FS for a few occasions at RMB 300 for a total damage of 468. Any BJ or DATY depends on the lady you're with. However, the roster of providers seem friendly & open and their looks are from average to nice. Massage itself was fair.

325 &19969; (a) : Another one of my favourites just for the body massage alone. The rooms also are bright, clean & airy but with only a standard massage bed. Standard price of RMB 168 for 90 minutes with the HJ / HE. They don't have a large line-up of ladies but the small team of 4 does have the quality in terms of skills, friendliness and looks. No FS provided but may try the frequent customer routine later on.

325 &30002; (be) : What separates (a) & (be)?

First, it's the location. 325 &19969; (a) is located past the passkey door but just tell the guard you're going for the massage & he'll open – no questions asked. 325 &30002; (be) doesn't need a passkey to go through. Both are located in the same apartment block but &19969; (a) is the first one you see when you come in from Wangjing Street.

Second, it's open advertisement. 325 &19969; (a) does have more prominent red neon signs in Korean & Chinese on its windows whereas the 325 &30002; (be) only has one facing the Hong Tai Road.

Third, it's the quality of services & prices provided. 325 &19969; (a) only provides a discretionary HJ / HE for your RMB 168/90 minutes whereas 325 &30002; (be) provides the FS upsale along with the HJ / HE.

Their line up & the quality of providers at 325 &30002; (be) are poor ranging from pencil-thin wrinkled cougars to pot-bellied youngsters. The 'hoes' there don't even pretend to give any type of friendly feel. All I could recall from the regrettably experience was 'faster, faster. Time's up. Another couple is getting in a few minutes! ' Arrrgghh! Thankfully, the damage (aside my pride & willy) was only RMB 260 (excluding the RMB 168 lousy massage if any). Never again!

Again, there are a few other MP that are located within the apartment blocks of 319, 314, 307 etc. That I hadn't fully explored yet. Perhaps, any fellow mongers would wish to add / correct to the above list?

Sai

[London2008]

Felt along over the new year eve in Beijing, I decided to try Fiona. After Texted back and forth several times, Fiona finally agree send Nico to my hotel, but ask for 1000 plus taxi fare. I thought it was too much But she was firm on the price. I could not agree, then decided to try Angel. Angel quickly resposed to me and agree send me qiqi to me for 600 plus taxi fare. I stayed in a hotel about half hour away from downtown. To my surprise, qiqi called me 10 minutes later and informed me she is on the way and will arrive in about 10 minutes and she did.

She is very professional and provided good services. I will definite repeat later.

I gave her 600 plus 200 tips / taxii and she was happy, even thank me for that.

JBJust try Coco despite they are now charging 1000RMB. She is pretty with good bust. Natural. The only problem is that she seemed to be in a hurry. Not sure I would want to try her again.

London

[Becker34]

Just try Coco despite they are now charging 1000RMB. She is pretty with good bust. Natural. The only problem is that she seemed to be in a hurry. Not sure I would want to try her again.

LondonI tried them and got Celine. I paid 1100 including taxi. Good experience. I agree that it was quick but when you get an hour outcall it is just a quickie.

Overall good experience. She had good breast and a great stomach. Appearance overall good. Very friendly girl. I did have some troubles with them keeping my appt the first time but worked out fine in the end.

[Becker34]

Met a girl on QQ that invited me to her work to play pool. She said 70kuai for an hour.

Anyone ever heard of this place? At the south gate. Any action? She said we can drink together while playing pool and some girls go out with customers drinking afterwards but she does not. She said shed be happy to go to dinner with me though. We'll see how that goes later this week.

If anyone has any info on this place or others like it and whether any p4p there then let me know.

[FernandoAlonso]

Just try Coco despite they are now charging 1000RMB. She is pretty with good bust. Natural. The only problem is that she seemed to be in a hurry. Not sure I would want to try her again.

London1000 RMB for an outcall? You must be kidding, and of course plus taxi and tips. I know this is Beijing but these prices are just ridiculous, especially compared with the service delivered and the look of the girls. 1000 is the take out all night fee for a gorgeous KTV girl, or LT for a nice maggies Northern sister, both you can first get to know a little before you choose (to Fillmore this week one of your requested 40kg 1000RMB spinners will be back at work). Yes, if you in town for a day and have no time this may be the only option if you do not RTFF and use the info from real value posters (no offense to you London but this is your first post and sounds like an advertisement, but no judging from me). But these outcall girls go for 300 to 400 RMB in average if you not use the promoted services on this Board. And at the moment there is a huge crack down especially on these providers going on, apparently one of these cards was dropped at the wrong door LOL.

Do a little reading and exploration gents, there are more options available, many more and much better ones.

Still shaking my head in disbelieve

FA

[GregoryB]

1000 RMB for an outcall? You must be kidding, and of course plus taxi and tips. I know this is Beijing but these prices are just ridiculous, especially compared with the service delivered and the look of the girls. 1000 is the take out all night fee for a gorgeous KTV girl, or LT for a nice maggies Northern sister, both you can first get to know a little before you choose (to Fillmore this week one of your requested 40kg 1000RMB spinners will be back at work). Yes, if you in town for a day and have no time this may be the only option if you do not RTFF and use the info from real value posters (no offense to you London but this is your first post and sounds like an advertisement, but no judging from me). But these outcall girls go for 300 to 400 RMB in average if you not use the promoted services on this Board. And at the moment there is a huge crack down especially on these providers going on, apparently one of these cards was dropped at the wrong door LOL.

Do a little reading and exploration gents, there are more options available, many more and much better ones.

Still shaking my head in disbelieve

FAPlease guys forgive me asking stupid questions:

I have never been to a KTV place and I do not speak Chinese. You guys seem to be quite fond of KTV activities.

Does it make sense at all to go there alone?

I once tried (a month ago) in a 5star hotel in a small city, they had in a separate. In the regular elevator blocked- floor a KTV

Which I managed to get to, but all the nice looking ladies just did not know what to do with me.

So I gave up and went back.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

GregoryB

[London2008]

1000 RMB for an outcall? You must be kidding, and of course plus taxi and tips. I know this is Beijing but these prices are just ridiculous, especially compared with the service delivered and the look of the girls. 1000 is the take out all night fee for a gorgeous KTV girl, or LT for a nice maggies Northern sister, both you can first get to know a little before you choose (to Fillmore this week one of your requested 40kg 1000RMB spinners will be back at work). Yes, if you in town for a day and have no time this may be the only option if you do not RTFF and use the info from real value posters (no offense to you London but this is your first post and sounds like an advertisement, but no judging from me). But these outcall girls go for 300 to 400 RMB in average if you not use the promoted services on this Board. And at the moment there is a huge crack down especially on these providers going on, apparently one of these cards was dropped at the wrong door LOL.

Do a little reading and exploration gents, there are more options available, many more and much better ones.

Still shaking my head in disbelieve

FAYou are right. I am just in town for a few days and unlike you who are probbaly living here. We can only get whatever offered by going through most of these pages and make a quick choice. More information appreciated.

BTW, my report obviously not an ad.

[Stegram]

You are right. I am just in town for a few days and unlike you who are probbaly living here. We can only get whatever offered by going through most of these pages and make a quick choice. More information appreciated.

BTW, my report obviously not an ad.Another problem with Maggies is that it doesn't get rolling until late.

When I'm in Beijing, I usually have morning meetings and can't really afford to wait around until Midnight to get started. By 12 I want to be finished and in bed going to sleep.

I've always managed to get taken care of through previous connections but for a non-regular traveler Beijing has few options. Quality outcall for 500RMB is not easily available or apparent for these guys.

Therefore the outcall madams will continue to operate in true Chinese business fashion. Get the quick buck now and ignore the possibility of long term repeat business. The one that finally wakes up and emails real photos, and insists that their girls perform a minimum of good service, will get the long term customers and the good referrals.

[Loveasiangirls]

Another problem with Maggies is that it doesn't get rolling until late.

When I'm in Beijing, I usually have morning meetings and can't really afford to wait around until Midnight to get started. By 12 I want to be finished and in bed going to sleep.

I've always managed to get taken care of through previous connections but for a non-regular traveler Beijing has few options. Quality outcall for 500RMB is not easily available or apparent for these guys.

Therefore the outcall madams will continue to operate in true Chinese business fashion. Get the quick buck now and ignore the possibility of long term repeat business. The one that finally wakes up and emails real photos, and insists that their girls perform a minimum of good service, will get the long term customers and the good referrals.The thing is, this being China, probably way over 90% of the "business" is with Chinese customers. These are the true repeat customers. Also easier for the mamas to find girls that speak mandarin. So unless you can speak the language, you do not even have access to most of the goodies.

[Nice Bip]

Met a girl on QQ that invited me to her work to play pool. She said 70kuai for an hour.

Anyone ever heard of this place? At the south gate. Any action? She said we can drink together while playing pool and some girls go out with customers drinking afterwards but she does not. She said shed be happy to go to dinner with me though. We'll see how that goes later this week.

If anyone has any info on this place or others like it and whether any p4p there then let me know.I'd be careful in your shoes. Pay attention to these QQ girls. Check this place out first: I smell a possible scam (such as paying disproportionate bills afterwards.)

[Forbidden Kid]

Just try Coco despite they are now charging 1000RMB. She is pretty with good bust. Natural. The only problem is that she seemed to be in a hurry. Not sure I would want to try her again.

LondonYou might want to get your package checked. It was a pretty long time ago but a broad by the name of Coco gave some of the members STDs.

[Aries3288]

Planning to be in Beijing for about 5 days in March and would be going there with a lady from Fuzhou. Any kind brothers who can recommend some girl friendly hotels preferably around Chao Yang or Wang Fu Jing areas. Other areas would also be fine if it is closed to a Sunday station.

Thanks a million!

[Sammon]

Planning to be in Beijing for about 5 days in March and would be going there with a lady from Fuzhou. Any kind brothers who can recommend some girl friendly hotels preferably around Chao Yang or Wang Fu Jing areas. Other areas would also be fine if it is closed to a Sunday station.

Thanks a million!All hotels in Beijing are girlfriendly in my experience. I have stayed mid priced hotels and up. Usually stay at Hotel Beijing which is a good hotel and girlfriendly right close to forbidden city. Plenty of mamasans outside and can bring good looking girls. Cost is around 300-500 RMB ST. Sometimes girls stay LT for 800 RMB.

[Jude Bright]

As I come to China now for many years I only learned through you guys in the last several months about

The do's and don't's in the scene.

And where to go for meeting or contacting WG's, especially in Beijing. I also have gotten a direct connection to.

A most attractive lady, who is just occasionally looking for someone to meet but otherwise has got a regular

Full time job. (I had reported about this here a while ago.)

Since direct contacts need to be found via PM, write to me if you are interested in either a tantric massage with full service,

Very GFE like, but only basic English or a very professional with most everything on the menu and also phantastic GFE attitude, English no problem at all.

Both are in Beijing.

Some of the more frequent contributors are always suspecting indirect advertising: I can assure you I am absolutely independent.

And just want to return something for what I had been only able to get through this forum.

GregoryBI had the pleasure to sample one of the girl last week and it turn out a great experience. I and an afternoon free, so called the 2nd girl the day before. She quickly respond to me and we set up a date at noon in an restaurant. The following day, we meet at the restaurant and I treat her a typical Chinese meal, then we went to see a movie we both like. Then, we went to a hotel for about 4 hours and had fun time. She is truely girlfriendly and we did everything exclude anal which I am not into it anyway. The total damage was 1800 include the hotel, the movie and the launch together for the whole afternoon and evening.

Thanks again GB.

JB

[FernandoAlonso]

Please guys forgive me asking stupid questions:

I have never been to a KTV place and I do not speak Chinese. You guys seem to be quite fond of KTV activities.

Does it make sense at all to go there alone?

I once tried (a month ago) in a 5star hotel in a small city, they had in a separate. In the regular elevator blocked- floor a KTV

Which I managed to get to, but all the nice looking ladies just did not know what to do with me.

So I gave up and went back.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

GregoryBEasy, not go alone, especially if you no speak Chinese, recipe for scam and disaster. Take some Chinese or Board friends with you and you will soon know how it works. But first of all, and that is for all the recent posters here saying there are few options, just read Sammys Beijing guide for beginners. It is simply not true there are few options but they are not obvious and it requires a little work but you shall get rewarded if you try a little. I hardly go for p4p these days and still if I want all written about here by senior members is still there. Explore, report, you will given back a hundred times. Forget outcalls. Not worth the money. Period.

FA

[FernandoAlonso]

I'd be careful in your shoes. Pay attention to these QQ girls. Check this place out first: I smell a possible scam (such as paying disproportionate bills afterwards.)Pool is very popular here but cost is more around 20 RMB per hour where I used to go. Drinks are very cheap. Just make sure it is an open place with many young Chinese playing and you should be safe.

FA

[FernandoAlonso]

Most horrible experience there for ages. Was a ghost town, even for the winter set up. Maybe 5 or 6 tagged girls and same amount of Northern Sisters around midnight. 10 customers outnumbered by staff. A few ladies showed up later around 1 pm, among them some 40 kg spinner, but no stunner, but the tribe is still in its majority having Christmas holidays back in freezing. 40 UB, same as the expats and business travelers. Prices seem to have increased, gin tonic is now 50 kuai, water 30 and they keep your jackets outside so you get them back stiff frozen.

After escaping notorious Anna shark, now posing as Inner Mongolian girl had a very nice conversation with Namin, clever girl, good English, good Chinese, beautiful face and a inviting Mongolian shape. Claimed to be 23 but I doubt that. Unfortunately these are all her good sides. Performance back her home was the worst I ever had from a Mongolian girl (just in the light of these you get what you pay for comments, total BS in my opinion, I had top performances by young and beautiful BBS girls for 150 RMB). No DFK, CBJ without any skills! Total starfish. I actually asked her if she had done this ever before and she got the deer in the headlight stare asking was it so bad, I kiss not so good. Yes it was so terrible my dear.

She is a nice girl but I would not recommend her at all, she was only asking the standard LT fee of 1000 and as I decided to get out was my choice she got that. She even said, give me what you think is fair. But I just thought that would be zero.

Clear no repeat and another confirmation that there are few really exceptional SP in M, even though most at least make up in enthusiasm what they lack in looks. I call it the wild horse experience and I know I am totally spoiled having enjoyed some of the best provides over and over again, but still this was worse than every BBS I have ever been in.

We will see how things develop next week with new talent in town.

FA.

PS: If anyone knows a place where black girls, viets or koreans can be spotted, please PM me. Some of the boards finest will be in town soon and we want explore some alternatives. Will report back but for now PM only.

[Haokool]

fernando, if m was bad you should have taken the option to rush to chocolate.

i wasn't at any, so i do not know.

how was the den?

yes this is brake time for the mong, but usually and even at this period you find them around midnight at the den.

black cheeks are hit and miss in bj.

sanlitun small bars have some but yet and again you need to get lucky.

korean would be pass the 4th ring road as you know, but this also i cannot swear it.

however!

as i was driving (with a real asshole by the way) and we were going to chocolate, we got lost as i was speeding.

as we were working our way back in the right direction. he exclaimed "ho that is where the dprk massage is" well it happened to be a big old dark building.

looking like an old office building with nothing written on it, we drove by, didn't stop.

we drove by because this dick had a fight with one of the guards outside the building, and he knew that they would recognize him.

well that is not going to help you anyway.

that said, bj has it all, it's hidden, discrete, for locals hate any kinds of embarrassing situations, shame or disturbances.

most foreigners (well i am one.) liked to fucked it up all the way, and for the simple reason that there are here for a week or so. or just don't fucking care.

that explains why i have been solo, or exclusively with local and this since 2004.

haven't been on the forum for a long time.

glad to see that "cheap sex in china" thread is still up.

this one was started in my "honor" by other assholes.

o&o

[Shikkar]

Most horrible experience there for ages. Was a ghost town, even for the winter set up. Maybe 5 or 6 tagged girls and same amount of Northern Sisters around midnight. 10 customers outnumbered by staff. A few ladies showed up later around 1 pm, among them some 40 kg spinner, but no stunner, but the tribe is still in its majority having Christmas holidays back in freezing. 40 UB, same as the expats and business travelers. Prices seem to have increased, gin tonic is now 50 kuai, water 30 and they keep your jackets outside so you get them back stiff frozen.

After escaping notorious Anna shark, now posing as Inner Mongolian girl had a very nice conversation with Namin, clever girl, good English, good Chinese, beautiful face and a inviting Mongolian shape. Claimed to be 23 but I doubt that. Unfortunately these are all her good sides. Performance back her home was the worst I ever had from a Mongolian girl (just in the light of these you get what you pay for comments, total BS in my opinion, I had top performances by young and beautiful BBS girls for 150 RMB). No DFK, CBJ without any skills! Total starfish. I actually asked her if she had done this ever before and she got the deer in the headlight stare asking was it so bad, I kiss not so good. Yes it was so terrible my dear.

She is a nice girl but I would not recommend her at all, she was only asking the standard LT fee of 1000 and as I decided to get out was my choice she got that. She even said, give me what you think is fair. But I just thought that would be zero.

Clear no repeat and another confirmation that there are few really exceptional SP in M, even though most at least make up in enthusiasm what they lack in looks. I call it the wild horse experience and I know I am totally spoiled having enjoyed some of the best provides over and over again, but still this was worse than every BBS I have ever been in.

We will see how things develop next week with new talent in town.

FA.

PS: If anyone knows a place where black girls, viets or koreans can be spotted, please PM me. Some of the boards finest will be in town soon and we want explore some alternatives. Will report back but for now PM only.Sanlitun village night clubs are the primary choice. I had seen lot of black chicks in bar downstair behaid the big mall. I had been ther in summer time. Not sure whats going now. Ther is also smoky and smelly bar just opposite to this bar. Can anyone sure about there name. Lot foreigners hangout at nights in this area. Mostly in summer. You can have a look!

[Niteluvr]

Easy, not go alone, especially if you no speak Chinese, recipe for scam and disaster. Take some Chinese or Board friends with you and you will soon know how it works. But first of all, and that is for all the recent posters here saying there are few options, just read Sammys Beijing guide for beginners. It is simply not true there are few options but they are not obvious and it requires a little work but you shall get rewarded if you try a little. I hardly go for p4p these days and still if I want all written about here by senior members is still there. Explore, report, you will given back a hundred times. Forget outcalls. Not worth the money. Period.

FAWhere can I find Sammy's primer?

[Nice Bip]

Pool is very popular here but cost is more around 20 RMB per hour where I used to go. Drinks are very cheap. Just make sure it is an open place with many young Chinese playing and you should be safe.

FAGood point.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Shikkar and Haokool. Thanks for your input.

FA and myself actually walked a few blocks unlitan chasing African girls a coupla months back. I got the tip on a bar where they supposedly hung out.

But alas not one in sight. There are usually 5 to 8 or so in Chocolate but quality so poor.

One fabulous Ugandan providor gets to The Den occasionally. I have her number and ALWAYS have her is she is in BJ whilst I am there.

Vics is supposedly another hang out where they love to go to dance but I did not spot any there last time. Will check it again next week.

So many young African students in BJ. Me tinks it must be a fabulous well just waiting to be tapped. If only we can locate them.

[Nameci]

Looks like there's still a couple of people who are interested in trying out KTVs in Beijing.

I might be arranging an evening out this Friday or Saturday so if anyone is interested and doesn't have my number can drop me a PM and I'll give you the details, but of course as long as you won't chicken out on it.

The guys on here that have gone out with me (including the non-Chinese speaking ones) have not had too much problem so I try to get the mamasan to get some English speaking girls and if not, act as the translator for the evening.

[Forbidden Kid]

Your best bet for Koreans would be in the wangjing or wdk area. Mind you most are a hit or miss kind of situation, so I would say Koreans are close to impossible in Beijing.

[Shikkar]

I was in Tiamen square twice last summer. I had been hit by lot of Chinese girls some asking me to have a coffee with them. I think they hit on you, if they find you are alone. I usally go alone. I had read lot rip off scam stories here, so I was so consicous about this things. So I told them directly I don't have enough money. By hearing this most of the girls will tell bye. I thing there is a seprate gang of scam girls hanging out in Tiamen sqaure. Does any fellow mongers have such experiance in Tiamen?

Shikkar

[OldAsiaHand]

Your best bet for Koreans would be in the wangjing or wdk area. Mind you most are a hit or miss kind of situation, so I would say Koreans are close to impossible in Beijing.There used to be some Koreans, or claimed to be Korean, girls in Hollywood in the old days. Anybody ever confirm if they were really Korean or seen them any other place in Beijing?

OAH

[Yuluckimi]

I was in Tiamen square twice last summer. I had been hit by lot of Chinese girls some asking me to have a coffee with them. I think they hit on you, if they find you are alone. I usally go alone. I had read lot rip off scam stories here, so I was so consicous about this things. So I told them directly I don't have enough money. By hearing this most of the girls will tell bye. I thing there is a seprate gang of scam girls hanging out in Tiamen sqaure. Does any fellow mongers have such experiance in Tiamen?

ShikkarA collegue of mine had the same experience. He had a tour in the forbidden city with a girl and afterwards she guided him to a thee house with a lot of explinations. He had a good afternoon and did not pay much. She also gave him her phone number. This was in July. Our Chinese colleagues thougth directly of a scam, but in this case it wasn't. Was he only lucky or not? I don't know. But between the Chinese these scams are very well known and not just for non-speaking mandarin or Kantonees people.

[Bad Boy Billy]

There used to be some Koreans, or claimed to be Korean, girls in Hollywood in the old days. Anybody ever confirm if they were really Korean or seen them any other place in Beijing? OAH there was one girl in old Hollywood who claimed to be Korean that I remember her well. She used to wear a red cap every night. She still frequents new Hollywood also in same red cap. But alas. I do believe she is another of these not so truthful Chinese spinning lies to the unsuspecting tourists.

[Mr Roboto]

Met a girl on QQ that invited me to her work to play pool. She said 70kuai for an hour.

Anyone ever heard of this place? At the south gate. Any action? She said we can drink together while playing pool and some girls go out with customers drinking afterwards but she does not. She said shed be happy to go to dinner with me though. We'll see how that goes later this week.

If anyone has any info on this place or others like it and whether any p4p there then let me know.It's common to find girls at pool halls who will play pool with customers for about 40 to 70 RMB an hour. I've seen it in every pool hall I've been to, and it is not a scam as they are employed by the pool hall. It is similar to paying for a girl to hang out with you (ie, Maggie's) , except these girls are very good at pool. Having said that, I would make sure you go to a pool hall of your (not her) choosing to be safe.

[GodfatherVit]

Hey Nameci,

I'm in Beijing this weekend and would love to partake in the festivities. However, I'm having issues setting up my paid subscription on this site so unable to PM you directly. Its going to take a day or two to get my paid subscription setup and given that you're organizing this either later today or tomorrow, is there anyway we can correspond outside this forum via email? My email address is [Email address deleted by Admin].

Let me know if you're able to send me the details. I can call you later today if needed. Appreciate your understanding.

Godfathervit


Looks like there's still a couple of people who are interested in trying out KTVs in Beijing.

I might be arranging an evening out this Friday or Saturday so if anyone is interested and doesn't have my number can drop me a PM and I'll give you the details, but of course as long as you won't chicken out on it.

The guys on here that have gone out with me (including the non-Chinese speaking ones) have not had too much problem so I try to get the mamasan to get some English speaking girls and if not, act as the translator for the evening.

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[Gualtier Malde]

I was in Tiamen square twice last summer. I had been hit by lot of Chinese girls some asking me to have a coffee with them. I think they hit on you, if they find you are alone. I usally go alone. I had read lot rip off scam stories here, so I was so consicous about this things. So I told them directly I don't have enough money. By hearing this most of the girls will tell bye. I thing there is a seprate gang of scam girls hanging out in Tiamen sqaure. Does any fellow mongers have such experiance in Tiamen?

ShikkarShikkar, never, ever, ever, follow these girls. This kind of scam has been well covered in the China forums. These girls are going to lead you somewhere that will seriously rip you off, and there will be no playing with the girl to compensate for your suffering. Follow those girls and you WILL get burned, possibly badly.

GM.

[FernandoAlonso]

Shikkar and Haokool. Thanks for your input.

FA and myself actually walked a few blocks unlitan chasing African girls a coupla months back. I got the tip on a bar where they supposedly hung out.

But alas not one in sight. There are usually 5 to 8 or so in Chocolate but quality so poor.

One fabulous Ugandan providor gets to The Den occasionally. I have her number and ALWAYS have her is she is in BJ whilst I am there.

Vics is supposedly another hang out where they love to go to dance but I did not spot any there last time. Will check it again next week.

So many young African students in BJ. Me tinks it must be a fabulous well just waiting to be tapped. If only we can locate them.Seconded, big thanks to all contributing, so glad we can share real info and not only discuss outcalls.

FA

[Shikkar]

If you got lot of time then use international version of qq. There is a searching option by selecting the language. By this way you can find expants using qq in your city. International version of qq profile has three options of language selection. Most of the users will be university students. It is also a hit or miss chance but you can make lot of foreign expants friends in your city. I got luck of meeting two russians and one girl from malasyia by language serching in qq. If you are looking russians in your city then use Russian version of facebook. 'vk dot com'. But all you need is time and patiance.

Good luck

Shikkar

[Infomatic]

Shikkar, never, ever, ever, follow these girls. This kind of scam has been well covered in the China forums. These girls are going to lead you somewhere that will seriously rip you off, and there will be no playing with the girl to compensate for your suffering. Follow those girls and you WILL get burned, possibly badly.

GM.Or sitting in the back of a Police car with a Chinese guy speaking perfect English and telling you that this will cost you 10. 000RMB for harassing women in the street and that if you do not pay you will hend-up in jail.OR- found dead 40km out of BJ and with two missing kindness.

PEOPLE! REMEMBER! THIS IS THE END OF THE YEAR!

Chinese need money right now. Huge amount of money to spend it all during the upcoming festivities for it will bring them good luck for the next year!

[Aries3288]

All hotels in Beijing are girlfriendly in my experience. I have stayed mid priced hotels and up. Usually stay at Hotel Beijing which is a good hotel and girlfriendly right close to forbidden city. Plenty of mamasans outside and can bring good looking girls. Cost is around 300-500 RMB ST. Sometimes girls stay LT for 800 RMB.Thank you Sammon, will check it out. I know some of the 4-5 star hotels which are not GF have security posted outside the elevators to check on ladies going up to the guest rooms.

[Niteluvr]

Or sitting in the back of a Police car with a Chinese guy speaking perfect English and telling you that this will cost you 10. 000RMB for harassing women in the street and that if you do not pay you will hend-up in jail. OR- found dead 40km out of BJ and with two missing kindness.

PEOPLE! REMEMBER! THIS IS THE END OF THE YEAR!

Chinese need money right now. Huge amount of money to spend it all during the upcoming festivities for it will bring them good luck for the next year!Are you talking police corruption here or someone posing as a cop? Speaking of bad people, I hear young punks work in pickpocket gangs and, if you're targeted, nobody will aid you. Also, I heard of you try to fight back, you'll likely get jumped by the rest of the gang members. How prevalent is this and what is recommended to do?

[Niteluvr]

Your best bet for Koreans would be in the wangjing or wdk area. Mind you most are a hit or miss kind of situation, so I would say Koreans are close to impossible in Beijing.What is wdk?

[Loveasiangirls]

What is wdk?Wudakou district

[Sammon]

Thank you Sammon, will check it out. I know some of the 4-5 star hotels which are not GF have security posted outside the elevators to check on ladies going up to the guest rooms.Never had a problem with Hotel Beijing International. Yes, sometimes there were guards at the elevators but none said anything. I believe they will not say anything to foreigners. Booking with them by directly calling them.

Gets the better rate.

[Miclac]

Hi,

I am looking for a girl who is willing to do girl / girl with a younger female friend of mine. She wants to find a sub fem to use for her first girl / girl.

Anyone know any providers? It could be a pro, non-pro, or pt girl. It doesn't really matter. She was hoping to find a girl with big tits.

Any help would be most appreciated.

[Infomatic]

Are you talking police corruption here or someone posing as a cop? Speaking of bad people, I hear young punks work in pickpocket gangs and, if you're targeted, nobody will aid you. Also, I heard of you try to fight back, you'll likely get jumped by the rest of the gang members. How prevalent is this and what is recommended to do?Am talking about both: corrupted Cops, and impersonating Cops.

2005 Guangzhou, a good friend (a real cop, clean) declared as we were partying."and the next time you come out of Carrefour, if you ever catch a thief, we will give you a medal" that was after I told him that I knocked cold one of what happened to be a gang of 4. The other three grabbed him and ran across the avenue. They really looked and dressed like typical thieves and they knew that no one would be on their side.

Yes, if you are targeted it is more likely that no one will be helping you.

And yes if you knocked 1 or 2 thieves, a giant crowed will soon be surrounding you (unless you move off ASAP) and as soon as the Cops will arrive the rest of the gang will be asking you for hard cash because of having assaulted their friends. The crowed will likely side up with the gang for the trill of seeing you in deep shit. Or on a better note the gang will simply be taking off because of the Cops.

The crucial part is to only knock out members of the gang, and not a passing by beefy asshole adrenaline pumped up willing to show-off in front of the crowd by challenging you for at that point you will have the entire crowd on your ass.

What to do exactly, well it all depends of the situation, the area, and the time of day of course.

South China, most of the time a regular "gang" is no more that 5 and 250Kg all put together.

North China thugs are taller, bigger.

What is recommended and if you have the choice, is not to be seeking for help for you might be losing precious minutes.

Rush into a hotel, large restaurant; managers / owner might however kick you out because of bringing trouble and bad reputation to their establishment. They are also aware that the "gang" might retaliate 3 or 4 month later if they have decided to assist you.

Try to rush into a taxi, for a bus might not be helping.

Usually street gangs are after your wallet and your mobile phone.

The gang master (s) is (are) usually 300 feet away in any direction from the gang at all time, but he gets in the action if the gang get caught (by yourself).

Well dressed he would lead the crowd against you.

However locals are not dumb, by his accent, pronunciation they usually quickly realized they are from the same village, and he is part of the gang.

You can spot this happening when noticing the crowd moving away from one or two specific persons, and pointing fingers, making gestures at them.

Your gang suddenly becomes 6, 7.8.

And now here the real trick. Be creative, stick with the biggest, strongest folks around.

Follow them, talk to them, they will at 90% be siding with you for the gang will have no choice but to get closer to them, to be following them when following you.

This is when usually the entire crowd turns against the gang, and you are soon to see the gang flying in every directions rushing to cover.

(The gang master (s) is actually the most "dangerous". Stronger, well fed, he might decides to fight you. If he does, the gang will move off and split. At that point anyone around will rightly assume that you are actually assaulting a nice descend gentleman. Then you are in trouble.)

I have knocked a couple of guys in Guangzhou, some badly, and even a Taxi driver and I was in my entire right at all time.

(you need to learn how to say the word "thief" in Chinese, that will usually ease passing by folks, and you move on ASAP)

That said, I would myself think twice before punching folks in Northern China.

FYI:

2012, the CCCP is working on a law in regards of Good Samaritan as well as a possible system of reward. (me think to soon get a nice medal LOL)

[Infomatic]

Hi,

I am looking for a girl who is willing to do girl / girl with a younger female friend of mine. She wants to find a sub fem to use for her first girl / girl.

Anyone know any providers? It could be a pro, non-pro, or pt girl. It doesn't really matter. She was hoping to find a girl with big tits.

Any help would be most appreciated.Go at The Den, +10pm, ask the girls around you will certainly find why you need for a price. Chocolate will also have what you need.

Now if you ask, I can certainly dress like a girl and bang your girl if you want.

[Dynamic]

Go at The Den, +10pm, ask the girls around you will certainly find why you need for a price. Chocolate will also have what you need.

Now if you ask, I can certainly dress like a girl and bang your girl if you want.My hand is up also! Always happy to help a fellow monger.

[Conradt Safran]

Hey guys, I'm a long time lurked, thanks for all of the info over the years. I'm headed back to China in a few weeks and am spending a weekend in Beijing. Anyone have any info on a place to go cougar hunting? If that fails, how reliable is Angel's service?

Thanks,

CS

[HemanPapa]

Very insightful, not only for expats, but also for Chinese who speak different local languages. Some "mandarin" versions are no more different than foreign languages.

Guangzhou is a dangerous place to visit.


Am talking about both: corrupted Cops, and impersonating Cops.

2005 Guangzhou, a good friend (a real cop, clean) declared as we were partying."and the next time you come out of Carrefour, if you ever catch a thief, we will give you a medal" that was after I told him that I knocked cold one of what happened to be a gang of 4. The other three grabbed him and ran across the avenue. They really looked and dressed like typical thieves and they knew that no one would be on their side.

Yes, if you are targeted it is more likely that no one will be helping you.

And yes if you knocked 1 or 2 thieves, a giant crowed will soon be surrounding you (unless you move off ASAP) and as soon as the Cops will arrive the rest of the gang will be asking you for hard cash because of having assaulted their friends. The crowed will likely side up with the gang for the trill of seeing you in deep shit. Or on a better note the gang will simply be taking off because of the Cops.

The crucial part is to only knock out members of the gang, and not a passing by beefy asshole adrenaline pumped up willing to show-off in front of the crowd by challenging you for at that point you will have the entire crowd on your ass.

What to do exactly, well it all depends of the situation, the area, and the time of day of course.

South China, most of the time a regular "gang" is no more that 5 and 250Kg all put together.

North China thugs are taller, bigger.

What is recommended and if you have the choice, is not to be seeking for help for you might be losing precious minutes.

Rush into a hotel, large restaurant; managers / owner might however kick you out because of bringing trouble and bad reputation to their establishment. They are also aware that the "gang" might retaliate 3 or 4 month later if they have decided to assist you.

Try to rush into a taxi, for a bus might not be helping.

Usually street gangs are after your wallet and your mobile phone.

The gang master (s) is (are) usually 300 feet away in any direction from the gang at all time, but he gets in the action if the gang get caught (by yourself).

Well dressed he would lead the crowd against you.

However locals are not dumb, by his accent, pronunciation they usually quickly realized they are from the same village, and he is part of the gang.

You can spot this happening when noticing the crowd moving away from one or two specific persons, and pointing fingers, making gestures at them.

Your gang suddenly becomes 6, 7.8.

And now here the real trick. Be creative, stick with the biggest, strongest folks around.

Follow them, talk to them, they will at 90% be siding with you for the gang will have no choice but to get closer to them, to be following them when following you.

This is when usually the entire crowd turns against the gang, and you are soon to see the gang flying in every directions rushing to cover.

(The gang master (s) is actually the most "dangerous". Stronger, well fed, he might decides to fight you. If he does, the gang will move off and split. At that point anyone around will rightly assume that you are actually assaulting a nice descend gentleman. Then you are in trouble.)

I have knocked a couple of guys in Guangzhou, some badly, and even a Taxi driver and I was in my entire right at all time.

(you need to learn how to say the word "thief" in Chinese, that will usually ease passing by folks, and you move on ASAP)

That said, I would myself think twice before punching folks in Northern China.

FYI:

2012, the CCCP is working on a law in regards of Good Samaritan as well as a possible system of reward. (me think to soon get a nice medal LOL)

[Gualtier Malde]

I have met a ton of women from the badoo dot com and tagged dot com sites. It amazes me how quickly an initial chat online with one will turn to a discussion of sex. Sometimes, it happens without prompting at all.

One young 20-something cutie I met on badoo a few months ago (actually, as I recall it was last spring) , never amounted to anything. We had a very nice lunch together in Guomao, but I lost contact with her after. Out of the blue, this week she connected with me again. She said she wanted to have a threesome. She at first asked if I would join her with her boyfriend. She said she had never done it, was doing it at her boyfriend's request, remembered our lunch, and thought I would be a nice guy to do it with.

Well, shucks, ma'am!

Being the suspicious type, my Spidey senses were tingling at the possibility that this was a scam, and that I'd get robbed, mugged, or worse by her boyfriend when I got in the room. But of course, the little head seems always more courageous, so on we went setting up a meet for this afternoon.

When I arrived at the hotel, I almost bolted. There in front of the main entrance was an entire contingent of police, including a van that appeared perfect for hauling me and 20 of my best friends off to the clink. I slipped around the corner to get the lay of the land before going in. Apparently they were just wrapping up something, and before long they were gone.

Long story short, it was exactly as she promised. Her first time, boyfriend is Chinese, and was the one that wanted her to do it. They were both nervous, but good times were had by all.

If you live in Beijing and can't get laid for free from badoo dot com or tagged dot com, you just aren't trying hard enough. (One tip: get a QQ account. Once you make a contact, send her your QQ number. Much easier to chat there, and they all have a QQ number.)

GM.

[Jude Bright]

Hey guys, I'm a long time lurked, thanks for all of the info over the years. I'm headed back to China in a few weeks and am spending a weekend in Beijing. Anyone have any info on a place to go cougar hunting? If that fails, how reliable is Angel's service?

Thanks,

CSMost peoples say it is hit and miss. I had a good experience at new year eve. I can say it is GFE. But the girl was nice to be with. Nice body and face. Nice BBBJ and varies positions. She came to my hotel at airport for total 800 includes taxi. Her name is qiqi.

JB

[Clefairy]

I will be visiting Beijing next week (right before Chinese new year).

This is my fourth trip to Beijing and while on my last two trips I have been experiencing BBS and Maggies (thanks to this forum) , I would like now to try the KTV scene.

Unfortunately my Chinese is not good enough for me to wander alone in such establishment and I am also not sure this is the kind of place where you can go alone.

So if any local is interested in meeting with a 35yo european guy and introduce him to KTV, I would definitely love that. .

Please PM me if you are interested.

Hoorah to this forum!

[HemanPapa]

The timing is not so great. Better avoid three basic time slots in Beijing. CNY (Jan this year) , The party conference (March) , the month of China's National Holiday (Fixed, Sept to Oct).

During these 3 periods, most gals are either back home or hiding in somewhere else.


I will be visiting Beijing next week (right before Chinese new year).

This is my fourth trip to Beijing and while on my last two trips I have been experiencing BBS and Maggies (thanks to this forum) , I would like now to try the KTV scene.

Unfortunately my Chinese is not good enough for me to wander alone in such establishment and I am also not sure this is the kind of place where you can go alone.

So if any local is interested in meeting with a 35yo european guy and introduce him to KTV, I would definitely love that. .

Please PM me if you are interested.

Hoorah to this forum!

[Nameci]

I will be visiting Beijing next week (right before Chinese new year).

This is my fourth trip to Beijing and while on my last two trips I have been experiencing BBS and Maggies (thanks to this forum) , I would like now to try the KTV scene.

Unfortunately my Chinese is not good enough for me to wander alone in such establishment and I am also not sure this is the kind of place where you can go alone.

So if any local is interested in meeting with a 35yo european guy and introduce him to KTV, I would definitely love that. .

Please PM me if you are interested.

Hoorah to this forum!Always happy to help out when it comes to KTVs, I'm sure Staid Lo would be willing to do the same. Drop me a PM with your contact number when you're in Beijing next week and I'll be glad to show you around.

Might have a shortage of great girls but if it's the experience, I'm sure you'll still get something out of it. No KTV mamsan will want to afford to lose business at any time and will make sure as many girls as they can muster will magically appear when we show up.

[One Eyed Man]

If you read the Shanghai board, the members have listed various websites that are malls for independent incall providers, who are accessible via their QQ number. I've looked at some of the websites, and they seem to be Shanghai-only, or I can't find the characters for Beijing. Is there an equivalent for Beijing? I'm not an outcall guy and am getting a little bored of the options limited to high-end massage places / BBSes / Maggie's.

That being said, I've discovered some new BBSes around Hujialou. You have to walk around there after dark, they pop up like mushrooms. I've counted at least 5 on one side of the street and at least as many on the other, and there are a couple more potentials. (I'm assuming a place with the name for rest (xiuxi) is a BBS.) I've found a couple places where you can get FS incl a short BBJ for RMB 500, including two gals with C / D cups, so I won't be traveling to Anzhenmen anymore. One of these places, they lead you from the salon out the apartment building into the next building and into a seedy apartment with three bedrooms. Last night, I had to wait for a room, hearing loud moans coming from one of the rooms. If they weren't fake, then the guy was splitting her in half.

One of my Chinese colleagues has told me there are underground strip clubs in Beijing. There must also be high-end bordellos or incall places, right?

[Staid Lo]

Hi Clefairy, Nameci,

As Nameci said, just PM us with your contact info. I will also be in Beijing next week, and glad to show you around. BTW, my choice has recently been limited because 1 of my regular k raised the price from 3 to 4. Now mms gets 4, dj gets 4, boy gets 2, and xj gets 4. The cost does add up if there are only a few brothers joining the festivities.

Cheers,

Staid.


Always happy to help out when it comes to KTVs, I'm sure Staid Lo would be willing to do the same. Drop me a PM with your contact number when you're in Beijing next week and I'll be glad to show you around.

Might have a shortage of great girls but if it's the experience, I'm sure you'll still get something out of it. No KTV mamsan will want to afford to lose business at any time and will make sure as many girls as they can muster will magically appear when we show up.