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Dear all,
Does anybody know the status of Yanjiao? What about Roman?
Is it back to business?
Any alternatives in / around Beijing?
Both direct anwer or PM appreciated.
Happy New Year
Pekshy
Here's one that includes Beijing. It's all in Chinese, lots of info about QQ girls.
http://51736.org/?fromuid=329778
Try using Chrome as the browser if you don't read Chinese. It can auto-translate for you.
If you read the Shanghai board, the members have listed various websites that are malls for independent incall providers, who are accessible via their QQ number. I've looked at some of the websites, and they seem to be Shanghai-only, or I can't find the characters for Beijing. Is there an equivalent for Beijing? I'm not an outcall guy and am getting a little bored of the options limited to high-end massage places / BBSes / Maggie's.
That being said, I've discovered some new BBSes around Hujialou. You have to walk around there after dark, they pop up like mushrooms. I've counted at least 5 on one side of the street and at least as many on the other, and there are a couple more potentials. (I'm assuming a place with the name for rest (xiuxi) is a BBS.) I've found a couple places where you can get FS incl a short BBJ for RMB 500, including two gals with C / D cups, so I won't be traveling to Anzhenmen anymore. One of these places, they lead you from the salon out the apartment building into the next building and into a seedy apartment with three bedrooms. Last night, I had to wait for a room, hearing loud moans coming from one of the rooms. If they weren't fake, then the guy was splitting her in half.
One of my Chinese colleagues has told me there are underground strip clubs in Beijing. There must also be high-end bordellos or incall places, right?
Dear all,
Does anybody know the status of Yanjiao? What about Roman?
Is it back to business?
Any alternatives in / around Beijing?
Both direct anwer or PM appreciated.
Happy New Year
PekshyStill closed as far as I know, Maybe things will return to normal after the New Year. Iv'e heard there is another town between BJ and Tianjin that is similar, can't remember the name, someone out there got it? Should organize a field trip to check it out, maybe easier to get to than Yanjiao, and might be better?
Let's start the year on the right foot.
I'm up for a field trip, I can take 3 guys with me maximum.
Still closed as far as I know, Maybe things will return to normal after the New Year. Iv'e heard there is another town between BJ and Tianjin that is similar, can't remember the name, someone out there got it? Should organize a field trip to check it out, maybe easier to get to than Yanjiao, and might be better?
You did well, girls go normally for 600 + the room + cloth / shower / sauna / hot tub. And that is downtown Beijing.
I think you went to "sin city" LOL this place used to be an entire road bordered with KTV and BBB.
Holy shit guys. Normally, all I do is read the forum. But something happened recently that made me want to contribute the following report.
I read a post by Gaoshou, regarding his trip to Yanjiao district of Hebei for an adventure at the Roman Holiday spa. He described the place as a "Shanghai style" sauna. I said, no fucking way, a sauna like in Shanghai. But here in Beijing. This I've got to see for myself.
First the directions. So off I went. By SUBWAY.
From Guomao (China World station) take Subway Line 1 and go EAST to SIHUI. From Sihui Station, take an extension subway train to Ba Li Qiao station. Exit subway at the BA Li QIAO station and find a taxi or private ride to go the rest of the distance to Yanjiao County in Hebei Province. By car on the freeway, it is about another 15 minutes. When I went, I got to Baliqiao station around 11:00 pm and most cabbies were calling it a night. So I had to pay mine 100 RMB to take me to Yanjiao. Usually this can be done for about 60-80 rmb probably.
Once I arrived in Yanjiao, I opted to find a local cab driver. My driver wasn't really familiar with the area. So I jumped into another car and told the cabbie that I wanted to go to the Roman Holiday (Luo Ma Jia Ri) and he instantly knew where it was and took me there. Cabs in Hebi province start off at like 5. 50 RMB so transportation is cheap there. If you have to find it on your own, it is located just west of Yanling Lu intersection on Xinggong Dajie.
My cabbie took me there quickly and I went inside and showered up and changed into pajamas. They will try to upset you the disposable pajamas, but just get the regular robes. On the 3rd floor are where the rooms are located. Go to 3rd floor and the attendant will take you to your room. The price range is from 288 RMB to 600 RMB, and a wide range of services available, including full service. 600 RMB is for 90 minutes the full works. For 800 RMB you can stay overnight. However, this is not allowed until after 12:30 am.
I choose the 600 RMB service and asked them to bring me a couple of extra rounds. The attendant said they had about 30-40 girls working there. To set the record straight, the girls that are working there are not runway models. However, there are some pretty cute girls. Definitely a few 7's and 8's. I didn't see any 9's or 10's. But let's face it. Where can you find absolute 9's and 10's at a brothel?
I picked only 1 girl at first. And when we started playing, she asked me if I had ever had a threesome before. I said fuck yeah baby, of course. But I really didn't want to have a threesome if it wasn't going to be a THREESOME. I asked her if she had any girls that she worked really well with. And she said of course. And I said hell yes, let's see them.
So she calls on the phone and says bring in # and # for Big Brother to take a look at. Lucky for me, one of the girls was pretty cute. So I said, hell yes, let's play. So anyway, it was really a lot like Shanghai. They do the full cat tongue bath and everything. Including licking your asshole. Not like just a few little licks. But like really fucking lick your asshole like an ice cream cone.
At one point, I had both of them sucking my dick. And I was passing my cock from one girl's mouth to another. Back and forth. Then both girls would lick the tip of my cock, and then they started to french kiss each other.
We had sex in a bunch of different positions. And you can make as many pops as you want. Girls were super nice, super cute and playful. And overall the sauna was pretty cool. I decided to add another 288 RMB for another 30 minutes at the end with the each of them.
Total damage came out to like 1750 rmb, but for 2 hours with 2 girls. It was well worth it.
Member #4683
01-14-12, 01:41
Sounds great guys. I am in for a mission also. This could be fun.
Let's start the year on the right foot.
I'm up for a field trip, I can take 3 guys with me maximum.
I have met a ton of women from the badoo dot com and tagged dot com sites. It amazes me how quickly an initial chat online with one will turn to a discussion of sex. Sometimes, it happens without prompting at all.
GM.I ve experienced similar things. A girl I randomly met on the internet trying to meet tennis partners. The discussion moved quickly away from tennis towards sex and from sex to my bed it was only a stone away.
It ended up me pounding her ass like crazy (a rarity for me with Chinese girls) and CIM.
There s just so many girls in Beijing that are desperate to get laid. Happy days for us!
Gualtier Malde
01-14-12, 09:31
This might put lie to the idea that the pros only do it for the money, and aren't enjoying themselves. At least sometimes.
Today I was wandering through a village that happens to host one of the low end MPs I frequent. I was by myself, just sight seeing, without planning to visit the parlor.
Suddenly, around the corner walks one of my favorite masseuses from the parlor! She recognized me and smiled, and continued walking. She started to turn another corner, then looked back and waved for me to come. Note that she speaks no English, and I essentially no Chinese.
She led me to her ground level home, which consists of a tiny bedroom and bathroom, with the door opening directly onto the alley. She invited me in, locked the door, and proceeded to have her way with me. She was obviously enjoying herself.
When we were finished, we cleaned up in her (pretty disgusting) little bathroom, dressed, and both went on our way. She never asked for compensation, she apparently just wanted a good time.
It was an encounter, that, to put it mildly, was unexpected.
GM.
This might put lie to the idea that the pros only do it for the money, and aren't enjoying themselves. At least sometimes.
Today I was wandering through a village that happens to host one of the low end MPs I frequent. I was by myself, just sight seeing, without planning to visit the parlor.
Suddenly, around the corner walks one of my favorite masseuses from the parlor! She recognized me and smiled, and continued walking. She started to turn another corner, then looked back and waved for me to come. Note that she speaks no English, and I essentially no Chinese.
She led me to her ground level home, which consists of a tiny bedroom and bathroom, with the door opening directly onto the alley. She invited me in, locked the door, and proceeded to have her way with me. She was obviously enjoying herself.
When we were finished, we cleaned up in her (pretty disgusting) little bathroom, dressed, and both went on our way. She never asked for compensation, she apparently just wanted a good time.
It was an encounter, that, to put it mildly, was unexpected.
GM.Well, yeah, lucky encounter, no doubt. Bu don't you think it would have been a good idea to reward her, at least a bit.)
Gualtier Malde
01-15-12, 05:53
Well, yeah, lucky encounter, no doubt. Bu don't you think it would have been a good idea to reward her, at least a bit.)Ha ha, she will find a little Chinese New Year surprise in her coat pocket when she happens to look.
GM
Sounds great guys. I am in for a mission also. This could be fun.OK, here's some info. Town is called "Panzhuang" in Ninghe County. Part of Tianjin I believe.
There are buses running to there, maybe one of the Chinese speaking brothers could do a bit more research.
Lets hope it turns out to be as reported.
Maybe next weekend we could organize a run to there?
Sounds good. Which website or chat site was that?
I ve experienced similar things. A girl I randomly met on the internet trying to meet tennis partners. The discussion moved quickly away from tennis towards sex and from sex to my bed it was only a stone away.
It ended up me pounding her ass like crazy (a rarity for me with Chinese girls) and CIM.
There s just so many girls in Beijing that are desperate to get laid. Happy days for us!
Still closed as far as I know, Maybe things will return to normal after the New Year. Iv'e heard there is another town between BJ and Tianjin that is similar, can't remember the name, someone out there got it? Should organize a field trip to check it out, maybe easier to get to than Yanjiao, and might be better?I've had several good experiences in Yanjiao in the past. I went there today evening. Everything is closed. Roman Holiday is boarded up and I did not see any of the less prominent spas or BBS open. There were a lot of cop cars with flashing lights around town. As I was passing by RH, a car stopped by next to me with the driver gesturing me to get in. Later when was walking on Yangli Road, the same happened again. I didn't dare.
Waste of 3 hours taking the bus back and forth from Beijing. Until it's all cleaned up, don't waste your time trekking to Yanjiao.
Shanghai Guide
01-15-12, 21:16
I read a post by Gaoshou, regarding his trip to Yanjiao district of Hebei for an adventure at the Roman Holiday spa. He described the place as a "Shanghai style" sauna.When did you visit the place? There is a rumor that it is closed already since November? And another guy wrote he try to visit the roman holiday on 10th of January, but definitly closed.
Jude Bright
01-16-12, 00:39
I've had several good experiences in Yanjiao in the past. I went there today evening. Everything is closed. Roman Holiday is boarded up and I did not see any of the less prominent spas or BBS open. There were a lot of cop cars with flashing lights around town. As I was passing by RH, a car stopped by next to me with the driver gesturing me to get in. Later when was walking on Yangli Road, the same happened again. I didn't dare.
Waste of 3 hours taking the bus back and forth from Beijing. Until it's all cleaned up, don't waste your time trekking to Yanjiao.Read the forum before you go.
JB
Chu Xiang Yu
01-16-12, 04:15
I ve experienced similar things. A girl I randomly met on the internet trying to meet tennis partners. The discussion moved quickly away from tennis towards sex and from sex to my bed it was only a stone away.
It ended up me pounding her ass like crazy (a rarity for me with Chinese girls) and CIM.
There s just so many girls in Beijing that are desperate to get laid. Happy days for us!To Chinese guys.
This applies to foreigeners only. If you post a Chinese guy picture up these gals won't even bother talking to you. We just have to stick with prostitutes.
Member #4683
01-16-12, 09:52
Looks like we should figure out more about Panzhuang in Ninghe County (Dynamic's suggestion) and-or try Yanjiao / Roman holiday (Chris42) after CNY. Unless Shanghai guide knows more?
I will be ready to go hunting after Spring festival and are of course looking forward.
N. B: To Gualtier Malde; makes me proud to be in a forum with you. Excatly the way to do it!
OK, here's some info. Town is called "Panzhuang" in Ninghe County. Part of Tianjin I believe.
There are buses running to there, maybe one of the Chinese speaking brothers could do a bit more research.
Lets hope it turns out to be as reported.
Maybe next weekend we could organize a run to there?
When did you visit the place? There is a rumor that it is closed already since November? And another guy wrote he try to visit the roman holiday on 10th of January, but definitly closed.Yes, I saw the post on January 10th as well and thought that things had come back to normal. I visited on January 15th. The way it looks now, it looks like it's going to stay closed for a while.
Based on my experience in the last few months in Beijing, it looks like you can go to any sauna / bath house and it can be a random miss or hit; even the ones where I've had a hit can be a miss on another day. Is this consistent with other's experiences?
Also, are there any operating Roman Holiday like places in Beijing. Clean, no bargaining, a range of services etc?
Hey all.
I wanted to ask a few questions.
1. I intended to be in beijing the first week of Feb. Will escorts, Bars / lounge and MP still be working, If so are cops cracking down more during the holidays?
2. If Maggies is open is it safe to go there alone and pick up a girl, just scared the girl may ask some guy to follow me back to hotel?
Am making a solo trip and have no one to go with.
3. I read about how guys bring girls back to there hotels after picking them up from Maggies or Chocolate but I ve been told you can't bring anyone to your hotel after midnight. Or is this true only for low end hotels not top ones. Am just a college grad so no real cash for top hotels.
4. Off topic question will all stores reopen first week of Feb. I wanted to check out the Pearl market, I heard it has some nice things.
I appreciate your help
Chu Xiang Yu
01-16-12, 14:42
Regading gals in Badoo. I managed to chat with a very young 23 year old Chinese girl in Beijing. She told me she is looking for a boyfriend. But european or american bf only. I am not her "dish", she put it that way. I never knew I was a dish until this conversation. So Chinese guys, you have no hope in badoo. You can forget about it. Western guys you are in luck, you can bed with a girl after one conversation. I am certain of this as the girl I talk too is desperate to find western bf.
Member #4144
01-16-12, 17:52
To Chinese guys.
This applies to foreigeners only. If you post a Chinese guy picture up these gals won't even bother talking to you. We just have to stick with prostitutes.Excellent point, bro. I was foolished enough to have actually tried, and I found that we do get girls wanting to talk to us, except we attract a different group of girls. A westerner attracts girls looking for the experience, while an oversea Chinese man attracts girls looking for a husband.
Fillmore
Member #4144
01-16-12, 20:28
I came through BJ last Fri, staying at the Radegast near Guomao in 3rd ring. I choosed this hotel because of its proximity to both Maggies and quick access to the airport. It had worked out fine for me in my last few trips but last Fri, it took me 2 hours from the airport to that hotel by taxi. Somehow they removed the toll on that airport access highway and it was like a parking lot when I arrived around 5pm.
I think right now the only way to come in from the airport in any reliable time is to take the subway, so anyone can recommand a GF 4 or 5 stars hotel that is closed to a subway stop but still near all the important bars?
It is not just the traffic, but the difficulty of getting a taxi in BJ nowadays, so best if I can just come in without having to take a taxi at all.
Am I the only one suffering from this ridiculous move by the BJ gov to remove toll on such key access road?
Fillmore
I came through BJ last Fri, staying at the Radegast near Guomao in 3rd ring. I choosed this hotel because of its proximity to both Maggies and quick access to the airport. It had worked out fine for me in my last few trips but last Fri, it took me 2 hours from the airport to that hotel by taxi. Somehow they removed the toll on that airport access highway and it was like a parking lot when I arrived around 5pm.
I think right now the only way to come in from the airport in any reliable time is to take the subway, so anyone can recommand a GF 4 or 5 stars hotel that is closed to a subway stop but still near all the important bars?
It is not just the traffic, but the difficulty of getting a taxi in BJ nowadays, so best if I can just come in without having to take a taxi at all.
Am I the only one suffering from this ridiculous move by the BJ gov to remove toll on such key access road?
FillmoreMay I suggest the Grand Millennnium Hotel (Qianxi the jiudian &21315; &31143; &22823; &37202; &24215, just next to East Third ring road, facing Jintaixizhao Subway station (&37329; &21488; &22805; &29031; &31449. On line 10? By the way, I'm getting there next Saturday. Cheers
Regading gals in Badoo. I managed to chat with a very young 23 year old Chinese girl in Beijing. She told me she is looking for a boyfriend. But european or american bf only. I am not her "dish", she put it that way. I never knew I was a dish until this conversation. So Chinese guys, you have no hope in badoo. You can forget about it. Western guys you are in luck, you can bed with a girl after one conversation. I am certain of this as the girl I talk too is desperate to find western bf.Usually, but this is my guess, these looking-for-a-Western-bf girls tend not to be so quick in bedding: they might want to look "serious" to their Western counterpart.
Loveasiangirls
01-17-12, 00:24
I came through BJ last Fri, staying at the Radegast near Guomao in 3rd ring. I choosed this hotel because of its proximity to both Maggies and quick access to the airport. It had worked out fine for me in my last few trips but last Fri, it took me 2 hours from the airport to that hotel by taxi. Somehow they removed the toll on that airport access highway and it was like a parking lot when I arrived around 5pm.
I think right now the only way to come in from the airport in any reliable time is to take the subway, so anyone can recommand a GF 4 or 5 stars hotel that is closed to a subway stop but still near all the important bars?
It is not just the traffic, but the difficulty of getting a taxi in BJ nowadays, so best if I can just come in without having to take a taxi at all.
Am I the only one suffering from this ridiculous move by the BJ gov to remove toll on such key access road?
FillmoreI flew in last Friday too and there was still toll (from terminal 3). My flight landed at 5pm and I made it home (near Chaoyang park) in 30 minutes or so. Typical for this time of the day. Maybe your driver went the wrong way. Ring road 3 is pretty bad so he should have taken ring road 4.
The alternative would have been for you to take the Airport Express to Sanyuanqiao then subway line 10 to Guomao but getting on the subway with luggage is no fun at that time. Getting a taxi when getting off the airport Express is nearly impossible at that time.
Forbidden Kid
01-17-12, 01:29
So being in Beijing there never was much of an option to add a girl's qq and see if I can strike gold, but then I found the jackpot, or so I thought. Has anyone heard of myfre*cams? If not, then it is basically a site for models to cam and for horndogs like us to tip them in terms of tokens and such. Lately I discovered this Asian chick who claims to be camming from Beijing; her face looks decent with makeup on and her tits exist but the most important thing is: she is shaved.
Anyway I have been talking to her on the website e. T. See. E. T. See. And then I asked if she was willing to meet up to go clubbing or even a bang. My offer to her was pretty generous considering what the mongol sistars make in Maggies; her offer was 3000 USD.
The point of this post is if anyone of you lads is a prince or rich as hell, go give her a look. She already cams nekid so you can inspect the hardware there already.
Member #4144
01-17-12, 06:14
I flew in last Friday too and there was still toll (from terminal 3). My flight landed at 5pm and I made it home (near Chaoyang park) in 30 minutes or so. Typical for this time of the day. Maybe your driver went the wrong way. Ring road 3 is pretty bad so he should have taken ring road 4.
The alternative would have been for you to take the Airport Express to Sanyuanqiao then subway line 10 to Guomao but getting on the subway with luggage is no fun at that time. Getting a taxi when getting off the airport Express is nearly impossible at that time.-
So were you at Maggies that night too? Hahaha.
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Sorry, I didn't make it clear, two hours total from landing to hotel check in. My flight also arrived around 5 and I got to the hotel past 7. First delay at waiting for a taxi, the line was pretty long, but the bulk of the delay was indeed on 3rd ring. I had arranged dinner with my favorite M girl who had recently quit and she had to wait one whole hour for me, made me feel really bad. In the past, total time was more like 45 min from landing to hotel.
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I travel with only carry on, so subway will be fine but has to be subway all the way to the hotel, so I need to really look for a new place to stay in BJ. After I got to the hotel, I found there is no way to get a taxi, so I actually had to walk to GuoMao. So any evening activities better be subway based going forward in BJ, it seems.
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Fillmore
Excellent point, bro. I was foolished enough to have actually tried, and I found that we do get girls wanting to talk to us, except we attract a different group of girls. A westerner attracts girls looking for the experience, while an oversea Chinese man attracts girls looking for a husband.
FillmoreOh you lucky guys, you get to keep one of these whining stomping little princesses? It's your culture! The Western boys will just make them better wives for you haha.
Just returned from HK, different scene down there, seems the brothers are more into the Philippino / Thai domestic workers that frequent the bars looking for some extra cash. Have to admit, my opinion on Philippino girls has lifted considerably. The Chinese girls are down the pecking order and rightly so, compared with the foreign visitors they rate pretty low.
Did however try one Chinese, good service, nothing missing, right to the CIM ending, and not a spitter. HK$360. Competition is the answer to reasonable prices?
Guess it is harder for the DH's to get into the mainland, shame about that, good pickings in the bar scene with them in HK.
The HK brothers were very helpful, so get on down there, HK rocks!
Member #4144
01-17-12, 06:44
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The HK brothers were very helpful, so get on down there, HK rocks!Yes, agreed completely, and also much easier to get a taxi in HK. The only reason I keep coming back to BJ is because of the salsa girls in BJ are still way sexier and more plentyful then HK, but how the traffic getting worse and worse in BJ will really make me consider switching back to leave China via HK going forward.
Fillmore
Loveasiangirls
01-17-12, 09:19
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In the past, total time was more like 45 min from landing to hotel.
Fillmore45 minutes door to door, that's quite impressive even without having to wait for your luggage. But you are right, the taxi line was longer than usual.
No, did not go to Maggie as I had no sleep on my flight from Canada. Also Maggies action starts way to late for me.
Cheers!
Regading gals in Badoo. I managed to chat with a very young 23 year old Chinese girl in Beijing. She told me she is looking for a boyfriend. But european or american bf only. I am not her "dish", she put it that way. I never knew I was a dish until this conversation. So Chinese guys, you have no hope in badoo. You can forget about it. Western guys you are in luck, you can bed with a girl after one conversation. I am certain of this as the girl I talk too is desperate to find western bf.The points mentioned below are not any kind of rascial discrimination.
When a Chinese girl see something diffrent from normal then its a beauty.
These are some of the beauty appealing factors to get girls easily for foreigners.
Western country_more economic stable.
White skin.
Tall_more than six feet.
Big eyes.
Eye lashes.
Blue eye.
Grey or blod hair.
Curley hair.
Beared.
Hair in the chest region.
The culture, they are little friendly to foreigners if you compare other countries like arab, india, pakisthan. Its very hard to get a local girlfriend.
Muscular body structure_.
Black people score more with language, money and big pennis (girls crazy for sex type)
Above all the money.
Chinese people lacks most of the above things. They only got the yellow skin and money. Its rare to find a Chinese man with a foreign girlfriend manily in university.
Try westin or Hilton, airport express then line 10 1 stop to liangmaqiao. Should take about 30mins.
Another option is airport shuttle, for Y16, it stops along the way to many part of beijing. Apparently, there is bus lane to min traffic jam.
Cheers,
Staid
Just want to thanks Nameci for organizing the great party, looking fwd to the next outing.
Member #4144
01-17-12, 17:39
Try westin or Hilton, airport express then line 10 1 stop to liangmaqiao. Should take about 30mins.
Another option is airport shuttle, for Y16, it stops along the way to many part of beijing. Apparently, there is bus lane to min traffic jam.
Cheers,
StaidThanks for the tip, yes, I will need to consider those two, even though they are slightly more then what my company may allowed, but at least they must be GF, as the Landmark and Great Wall are both around the same spot but definitely not GF.
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Was that party on Fri? The great BBB was not in BJ, so he was not able to help me to get into a party that Fri night, even though he hinted to me where the party might be, but I was so scared of the difficulty of getting a taxi in BJ that I did not ventured out to look for it. Good to know you had great fun.
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Fillmore
Just want to thanks Nameci for organizing the great party, looking fwd to the next outing.Haha, you're welcome and you definitely had fun. That girl was pretty wild. She stayed on with another guy and the action got worse. :P
The points mentioned below are not any kind of rascial discrimination.
When a Chinese girl see something diffrent from normal then its a beauty.
These are some of the beauty appealing factors to get girls easily for foreigners.
Western country_more economic stable.
White skin.
Tall_more than six feet.
Big eyes.
Eye lashes.
Blue eye.
Grey or blod hair.
Curley hair.
Beared.
Hair in the chest region.
The culture, they are little friendly to foreigners if you compare other countries like arab, india, pakisthan. Its very hard to get a local girlfriend.
Muscular body structure_.
Black people score more with language, money and big pennis (girls crazy for sex type)
Above all the money.
Chinese people lacks most of the above things. They only got the yellow skin and money. Its rare to find a Chinese man with a foreign girlfriend manily in university.
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here bro;
Chinese girls always want "SOMETHING" and the thing you can't give them if you are Chinese, is a ticket out of here. Chinese culture and the education system have groomed them for marriage, baby etc.
Maybe some are realizing that because they have given up the cherry in a rash moment, or have been on the game, that they are'nt going to achieve the Chinese dream.
Western guys are not so adament about the virgin status so will offer some hope of that "easy life" that they are searching for.
IMHO, all of the qualifications you have listed are less important than the chance of a visa and ticket to easy street.
Chinese boys and their families work and strive to be successful, buy a house, and prepare for a family of their own, while the girls are spending money on clothes, expensive hair.
Do's etc, setting the "honey trap".
Yes this does attract western guys as well, why wouldn't it? But not many will be in for the long haul, white and horny does not mean naieve and stupid. Most if not all of these girls will remain in China!
As for the black guys, if they want to swap their lovely Afro honeys for the Chinese immature, no tits, no arse, whining, spoilt little giddy kids, they must be f*kin crazy!
Most western girls will not be attracted by your iPhone, car, or flat on the 14th floor, you have to romance them, have passion, they like to be cuddled, kissed, and are sensitive to words.
Very different requirements indeed?
JMPOV.
I wrote about a sauna located in Hui Long Guan in the past. I've been there several times in my 2007-2008-2009 Beijing trips.
Yesterday I landed in Beijing again and after a very tiring journey and a stressful day I decided to visit this place to relax. Well, the building is still there, but nobody inside and no furnitures, the reception isn't there anymore, looks like they are maybe working / upgrading inside. So I went to the other side of the building where's the entrance of the KTV. From what I knew they where sharing both the girls and the rooms for the service. Entered, nobody of the male workers was familiar to me, they were all excited, smiling and laughing for having a lao wai in that place.
Was brought to a room, asked for the prices, ordered a girl (400y).5 beers and something to eat (170y total).
Line up of 4, no good at all except a 7, but that's maybe 'cause it was late and there were many customers (the parking lot had several cars parked).
I know only few basic words of Chinese language and they don't know any word in english.
So no chat with the girl but she almost immediately french kissed me, then she touched my body and I touched her's. She sang in Chinese, I tried a couple of english songs, we drank and ate something while she was sat on my legs continuing touching and kissing.
Everything ok until she asks for money: 1000y for (if I understood) not having sex. I laugh. I explain her for that price she has to come to my place and stay with me a whole day doing everything.
I am disappointed, no more kissing from her, she tries to have me order something else, I refuse. We sing something, we finish the beers and now she brings a coworker to the room and asks if I want her to join us. I refuse and say I'm leaving. She doesn't want me to exit the room to go downstairs, she calls by phone one guy that comes almost instantly and asks me if I wanted "maidan". I say yes and ask for the WC, they don't want me either to exit the room for going to the toilet. I'm pissed, I say "wo bu mian bai han yu" (I don't understand Chinese) and go out; they escorted me to the toilet and then back to the room. They ask me money for food&drinks (170) , for the girl (400) , and then they also want (all the 3) a tip. I pay 600 total and go, not a place to try any hazardous move (and by the way, being stabbed with a knife isn't worth a couple of red Maos).
So my advice to anyone reading any past post about this place is: AVOID IT!
Ricky
Yes, agreed completely, and also much easier to get a taxi in HK. The only reason I keep coming back to BJ is because of the salsa girls in BJ are still way sexier and more plentyful then HK, but how the traffic getting worse and worse in BJ will really make me consider switching back to leave China via HK going forward.
FillmoreHey M8, can you give more info on the salsa girls? I've heard a little about this.
Where are they, do you enjoy salsa dancing with them, or is there more on offer?
Oh. If you heading to HK, PM me, I got something special there.
Member #4144
01-18-12, 07:36
Hey M8, can you give more info on the salsa girls? I've heard a little about this.
Where are they, do you enjoy salsa dancing with them, or is there more on offer?
Oh. If you heading to HK, PM me, I got something special there.-
Hahaha, just dancing man. You need to be a salsa dancer to begin with. Fri was at Club Caribe and I saw many white guys tried to ask these girls to dance but they didn't know how to so it didn't work for them. There was a booth with about 5 girls there, with some other guys, probabbly their BF, all 8 and above and one a solid 10. She also had on a very sexy dress. When I danced with her, I almost couldn't control myself, but still I am a gentelman, haha. I danced with each of these 5 girls, but one in particular I met first at the bar ordering water so I stuck with her when it came to batchata where she let me held her really tight, so I showed her that I would not dance with anther girl in bachata or merengue where tight enbracing can happen, and she really appreciated that and danced every such song with me. Latin music stopped at midnight and that was when the other guys can start dancing to typical club music, but that was also when these beauties started leaving. I left with them and went on to Maggies. That girl smiled at me when walking to their cars, thinking she would see me soon again, but sorry, I won't come back for at least another month.
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These salsa girls are typically office ladies who just love latin music and love salsa dancing. The clubs are all over, at different clubs every night of the week, and Caribe has salsa everynight, but you won't see these beauties often, as they don't come out to Caribe often. Suzzie Wong's Latin night also can see some beauties, but again, you need to be a salsa dancer to reach them.
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Do I need more then dancing with these gilrs, no, I don't even need to sleep with those Maggies tagged girls. There are just different kinds of fun with different kinds of girls. If a girl cannot do BBBJ and 69 on the first encounter, I don't want to even bother.
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Fillmore
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here bro;
Chinese girls always want "SOMETHING" and the thing you can't give them if you are Chinese, is a ticket out of here. Chinese culture and the education system have groomed them for marriage, baby etc.
Maybe some are realizing that because they have given up the cherry in a rash moment, or have been on the game, that they are'nt going to achieve the Chinese dream.
Western guys are not so adament about the virgin status so will offer some hope of that "easy life" that they are searching for.
IMHO, all of the qualifications you have listed are less important than the chance of a visa and ticket to easy street.
Chinese boys and their families work and strive to be successful, buy a house, and prepare for a family of their own, while the girls are spending money on clothes, expensive hair.
Do's etc, setting the "honey trap".
Yes this does attract western guys as well, why wouldn't it? But not many will be in for the long haul, white and horny does not mean naieve and stupid. Most if not all of these girls will remain in China!
As for the black guys, if they want to swap their lovely Afro honeys for the Chinese immature, no tits, no arse, whining, spoilt little giddy kids, they must be f*kin crazy!
Most western girls will not be attracted by your iPhone, car, or flat on the 14th floor, you have to romance them, have passion, they like to be cuddled, kissed, and are sensitive to words.
Very different requirements indeed?
JMPOV.Ok mate I agree with your points.
You are talking about adult romance, relationship and marriage.
I was talking about club hitting, university action.
My meaning is young girls who want to hang out with handsome man or boy.
I am not a Chinese and I am young and I study in university wer all my fellow classmates are Chinese mostly girls. We live in dormitory mixed up with Chinese and international students. Now you can imagine then it will be working. Ha ha.
So we speak each other about this kind of things. If you are a student in China you will also know how it works.
Its all about hit and miss, short time relation, one night. Whatever you name it.
The point here is those who is handsome will easily picked up. Like young casual encounter, will not lead to a marriage or visa.
Two diffrent way of age diffrence thiking. Points of post are valued. I think mostly to 30pluse above girls!
About foreign girlfriends to Chinese, I didn't seen anyone in my university. Had seen middle aged bussiness people. And the others are money people, who are mainly after russians. Treating them with money.
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Hahaha, just dancing man. You need to be a salsa dancer to begin with. Fri was at Club Caribe and I saw many white guys tried to ask these girls to dance but they didn't know how to so it didn't work for them. There was a booth with about 5 girls there, with some other guys, probabbly their BF, all 8 and above and one a solid 10. She also had on a very sexy dress. When I danced with her, I almost couldn't control myself, but still I am a gentelman, haha. I danced with each of these 5 girls, but one in particular I met first at the bar ordering water so I stuck with her when it came to batchata where she let me held her really tight, so I showed her that I would not dance with anther girl in bachata or merengue where tight enbracing can happen, and she really appreciated that and danced every such song with me. Latin music stopped at midnight and that was when the other guys can start dancing to typical club music, but that was also when these beauties started leaving. I left with them and went on to Maggies. That girl smiled at me when walking to their cars, thinking she would see me soon again, but sorry, I won't come back for at least another month.
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These salsa girls are typically office ladies who just love latin music and love salsa dancing. The clubs are all over, at different clubs every night of the week, and Caribe has salsa everynight, but you won't see these beauties often, as they don't come out to Caribe often. Suzzie Wong's Latin night also can see some beauties, but again, you need to be a salsa dancer to reach them.
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Do I need more then dancing with these gilrs, no, I don't even need to sleep with those Maggies tagged girls. There are just different kinds of fun with different kinds of girls. If a girl cannot do BBBJ and 69 on the first encounter, I don't want to even bother.
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FillmoreBig reason why I picked up Salsa in Sydney, definitely to get the legs moving again. Ping me up sometime when you're headed to Caribe, Fillmore. I would love to see the expert in action and get some pointers.
Member #4144
01-18-12, 12:02
Big reason why I picked up Salsa in Sydney, definitely to get the legs moving again. Ping me up sometime when you're headed to Caribe, Fillmore. I would love to see the expert in action and get some pointers.You mean you did salsa and have not been doing so in BJ? Man, what are you waiting for. BJ has the best salsa scene that I have seen so far. When I danced in the US, in several cities, the hottest girls are usually asian girls, and because that they are so popular, they also then become better dancers. BJ and Shanghai are the two best salsa cities in China and I come to BJ not because of Maggies or the outcalls, I come because of the BJ salsa scene, and sounded to me you are BJ based and you are not taking advantage of it?
Fillmore
I do want to thank nameci for organizing this KTV trip last Monday. It was a first time for me and I really had a lot of fun. Thank you!
I am still in BJ for a few days and I am trying to look for places where I could get as much fun (without spending an outrageous amount of money) but so far I have been quite unsuccessful. .
Any help, fellows?
Haha, you're welcome and you definitely had fun. That girl was pretty wild. She stayed on with another guy and the action got worse. :P
I do want to thank nameci for organizing this KTV trip last Monday. It was a first time for me and I really had a lot of fun. Thank you!
I am still in BJ for a few days and I am trying to look for places where I could get as much fun (without spending an outrageous amount of money) but so far I have been quite unsuccessful. .
Any help, fellows?If you are looking for less money and lot of fun, you can find cheap sex. Buildings with red lights and WG sitting ouside shouting massage when you walk around.
And for nightlife hit the clubs. Go to sanlitun village where lot of foreigners hangout. If you are lucky enough you will get free pussy.
Lot of WG walking around will have eye contact. You can talk to them and try to reduce.
Or use outcalls. Will be around 600plus 100 taxi.
As it is cold everything is pretty slow. Then kfc, macD, starbuks. Try hookup with some. And give a try to CL also.
Safe hunting.
Shikkar.
Chu Xiang Yu
01-19-12, 00:42
Ok mate I agree with your points.
You are talking about adult romance, relationship and marriage.
I was talking about club hitting, university action.
My meaning is young girls who want to hang out with handsome man or boy.
I am not a Chinese and I am young and I study in university wer all my fellow classmates are Chinese mostly girls. We live in dormitory mixed up with Chinese and international students. Now you can imagine then it will be working. Ha ha.
So we speak each other about this kind of things. If you are a student in China you will also know how it works.
Its all about hit and miss, short time relation, one night. Whatever you name it.
The point here is those who is handsome will easily picked up. Like young casual encounter, will not lead to a marriage or visa.
Two diffrent way of age diffrence thiking. Points of post are valued. I think mostly to 30pluse above girls!
About foreign girlfriends to Chinese, I didn't seen anyone in my university. Had seen middle aged bussiness people. And the others are money people, who are mainly after russians. Treating them with money.Hey,
Why not share some your experience with freebies at uni base on what you said above. Or is t that you have none?
Chu Xiang Yu
01-19-12, 08:45
The points mentioned below are not any kind of rascial discrimination.
When a Chinese girl see something diffrent from normal then its a beauty.
These are some of the beauty appealing factors to get girls easily for foreigners.
Western country_more economic stable.
White skin.
Tall_more than six feet.
Big eyes.
Eye lashes.
Blue eye.
Grey or blod hair.
Curley hair.
Beared.
Hair in the chest region.
The culture, they are little friendly to foreigners if you compare other countries like arab, india, pakisthan. Its very hard to get a local girlfriend.
Muscular body structure_.
Black people score more with language, money and big pennis (girls crazy for sex type)
Above all the money.
Chinese people lacks most of the above things. They only got the yellow skin and money. Its rare to find a Chinese man with a foreign girlfriend manily in university.Shikkar,
Chinese guys looks great because they look exactly what they are right now:
Straight Black hair, mostly well combed.
Slim or petite, muscular for an asian.
Hairless chest and beardless.
Cute slit eyes.
We look great because of the above said qualities which you said aren't attractive to girls. BTW I am not saying western boys are not attractive but beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. If some Chinese gals or western gals don't appreciate the above qualities then its their loss.
Chinese guys are still very traditional and still prefer Chinese girls for wives, mistresses and prostitutes. Imagine one day all these changes and Chinese guys only go for foreign girls, Chinese prostitute industry might collapsed. Good way of cleaning the streets rather trying to prevent prostitution through law.
BTW there are so many gals around we are not short of girls or freebies, just that we have a disadvantage at certain web sites.
Yu out.
Chu Xiang Yu
01-19-12, 09:03
About foreign girlfriends to Chinese, I didn't seen anyone in my university. Had seen middle aged bussiness people. And the others are money people, who are mainly after russians. Treating them with money.The truth is Chinese guys always prefer to go after Chinese girls. So they don't even try to go after western or any other type of girls. Believe me, if we try we can go get any girl. Your chances of getting laid aren't better than us. Trust me.
You mean you did salsa and have not been doing so in BJ? Man, what are you waiting for. BJ has the best salsa scene that I have seen so far. When I danced in the US, in several cities, the hottest girls are usually asian girls, and because that they are so popular, they also then become better dancers. BJ and Shanghai are the two best salsa cities in China and I come to BJ not because of Maggies or the outcalls, I come because of the BJ salsa scene, and sounded to me you are BJ based and you are not taking advantage of it?
FillmoreWell the main reason is that I learned Cuban Salsa which is rather different from LA Salsa which most people learn here, so it's a bit of a pain for both parties to dance together at times. Apart from that, I'm rather shy about approaching girls in clubs so yeah, haha.
I do need to pick up bachata properly at some point, best dance to get close and personal. Haha
Hitting the clubs with a friend tonight so anyone who wants to check out the scene or even have a go at trying to get freebies, drop me a pm or just text me if you already have my number.
Member #4144
01-19-12, 12:07
Well the main reason is that I learned Cuban Salsa which is rather different from LA Salsa which most people learn here, so it's a bit of a pain for both parties to dance together at times. Apart from that, I'm rather shy about approaching girls in clubs so yeah, haha.
I do need to pick up bachata properly at some point, best dance to get close and personal. HahaHere you go, yes, start with bachata.
But in order for the prettier salsa girls to let you dance batchata with them, you need to first show that you are a good salsa dancer, unless you are young and handsome. At least for me, a 50 plus old man, it was all because I first showed them my salsa moves before they will dance with me. Yes, you may need to take some lessons to go from Cuba to LA, but the pay off is awsome.
Fillmore
Hey,
Why not share some your experience with freebies at uni base on what you said above. Or is t that you have none?Yhea I had something to share. But not too much.
I had done my university life in helionjiang province. Its a quite cold place.
We had international student dormitory. Most of the students are russians, Chinese, indians, pakithan, srilanka. Few arab, korean, africa and some whites moatly from canada.
Indians, pakisthan and srilanks girls will select only boyfriends.
I think its really the cultural thinking they don't choose other country boyfriends. And its quite hard to find someone in club also. Mostly the pakisthanis they to the muslim culture. Like covering their face. Hijab.
Most of Russian girls can be picked from dormitory, by dating or in club. These girls are cunning type use your money very badly for return of pussy.
As its cold most of months we stay a pretty good time in dormitory. Just offer drink or make friend and drink with them as you go high. The end climax will be in bed. My fellow Russian boys as friend they use give me marijuana and we smoke together he will introduce his friends to me. The hookup smoke together. Get high. Climax in bed. If a Russian girl got drunk ther next option is dance and fuck. Haha.
But this will not work with Chinese. You have to show some real romance and care then only they pay back. I usally met girls in english speaking program. They will share their number and you have to eork it out. These girls are very fast in messaging back. Eventhough they don't speak. Ha ha.
I haf send more than 2000 texts one day to diffrent girls. Most of the time texting will works. Will leads to date and slowly to bed. If they start to love you then ther starts the real trouble. They will not leave you. They are too much dedicated.
There are some other kind of Chinese girs are like money girls and want to imitate the western culture. You can just fuck them and throw away. They jyst want to taste some foreigner. Then by qq you can hit the girl from the same university. Just select the english speaking option in qq international.
Then AFF. You can meet locals mainly in bars and kfcs. Its very easy to get mobile numbers of this girls. Use google tranlator for texting as most of the locals will not knowing english. In my experiance its very easy to get in bed a local than with university girl. I usally deal with university girl by texting and meet up in common studyroom. There other one way. This has also worked for me. Just got to university common library or study room sit just near to some beautiful girl. Ask for some pen as you forgot it in room. Or drop a pen near to her as she will took it and give you. Then the casual introduction. Number exchange. Date. Bed.
Koreans are little hard to get. I think most of them are after black people.
There was some other kind of girls like Russian and half Chinese. They are not so good looking. But very good in bed. They enjoy anal verymuch. Its a small place near the heliongian provice near to russia. They can speak both language. I forgot the place name.
Black women will only goes with blacks. As others are little intreast on them. If a Chinese man got a black girlfriend then he is considered a big looser. Ha ha.
Arab girls will not got with other country people. May be the strict muslim culture. Some indians can be hooked. But only stay as friends. Hard to take to bed. So.
If you live in dormitory just try to make friend with others girls of the same dormotiory. Try to sleep or share bed with them. As by making simple reasons as your toilet is broken or smelly or you had a fight with roomate or your roomate is with his girlfriend in the room. It always work for me. When I get drunk with my friends I act so high, puke. Etc then they will allow to sleep ther. Ha ha. In night you have show some efforts and tricks.
If you got money, looks and a good drinking capacity, vk account. Then stay with Russian.
If you got a qq accont, patiance, spend a lot of time in texting. Then stay with Chinese.
If you are a foreigner in university hit the Chinese money girls. She will introduce lot of pussy to you. Even you can have group sex.
About remaimg country girs, it depend on your looks and verbal skills.
I have less experiance with blacks and westerns!
If you want to share more. Feel free to ask.
As my dormitory was a mixed. Its really a fucking palace!
Sounds good, but where to find?
If you are looking for less money and lot of fun, you can find cheap sex. Buildings with red lights and WG sitting ouside shouting massage when you walk around.
And for nightlife hit the clubs. Go to sanlitun village where lot of foreigners hangout. If you are lucky enough you will get free pussy.
Lot of WG walking around will have eye contact. You can talk to them and try to reduce.
Or use outcalls. Will be around 600plus 100 taxi.
As it is cold everything is pretty slow. Then kfc, macD, starbuks. Try hookup with some. And give a try to CL also.
Safe hunting.
Shikkar.
Member #4144
01-19-12, 23:10
As it is cold everything is pretty slow. Then kfc, macD, starbuks. Try hookup with some. And give a try to CL also.
Safe hunting.
Shikkar.You must be kidding about the CL right?
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When I was in BJ last Fri, I did use Lily and Fiona and I found both to be very useful. Lily's girl was on the cheaper side. 600 that already included the taxi. So apparently that was not cheap enough for people, come on, in this cold weather, you want to wander around to look for cheap sex, doing it in some sorry place with a small heater that can barely keep the place from freezing?
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The girl Lily sent me was a 6, but indeed <45kg as I requested. She waited outside my hotel in the cold for 20 min because I was not able to part with a new slim tagged girl at the M. Before heading over to M, I tried to push all the outcallers for as late as possible and 3AM was the latest by Lily, and boy, I wish it could have been 5am as that new M girl was so sexy. Well, despite of waiting for me outside in the cold for so long, she was the first outcall girl in BJ to let me kiss her, and her BBBJ was quite good too. I know the seniors will tell me I am completely wrong, so please, go ahead to use CL or go hunt somewhere, while I will stay in the comfort of my nice hotel room and let the outcallers doing the travelling and waiting.
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Fillmore
Chu Xiang Yu
01-19-12, 23:48
There are some other kind of Chinese girs are like money girls and want to imitate the western culture. You can just fuck them and throw away. They jyst want to taste some foreigner. Then by qq you can hit the girl from the same university. Just select the english speaking option in qq international.
Then AFF. You can meet locals mainly in bars and kfcs. Its very easy to get mobile numbers of this girls. Use google tranlator for texting as most of the locals will not knowing english. In my experiance its very easy to get in bed a local than with university girl. I usally deal with university girl by texting and meet up in common studyroom. There other one way. This has also worked for me. Just got to university common library or study room sit just near to some beautiful girl. Ask for some pen as you forgot it in room. Or drop a pen near to her as she will took it and give you. Then the casual introduction. Number exchange. Date. Bed.Hey bro,
What is money gals? I didn't meet any at my uni? Is there such a thing?
BTW I eat at KFC quite often but don't see any opportunity to pickup local girls. Mind to share an experience of your on how to pick up local gal at KFC?
Member #4144
01-20-12, 16:27
Hey bro,
What is money gals? I didn't meet any at my uni? Is there such a thing?
BTW I eat at KFC quite often but don't see any opportunity to pickup local girls. Mind to share an experience of your on how to pick up local gal at KFC?didn't you already posted earlier that we should just stick with WGs? Only young (<48) and fit foreigners, preferably white guys can pickup freebies easily in Asia.
Fillmore
Fucking awesome for a "50 plus old man".
Shows you can be 50 but possess a xiaodidi that is still 30.
Here you go, yes, start with bachata.
But in order for the prettier salsa girls to let you dance batchata with them, you need to first show that you are a good salsa dancer, unless you are young and handsome. At least for me, a 50 plus old man, it was all because I first showed them my salsa moves before they will dance with me. Yes, you may need to take some lessons to go from Cuba to LA, but the pay off is awsome.
Fillmore
As someone who has spoken to lots of "normal" Chinese girls in both Shanghai and Beijing, I think I'd like to add a bit to this "discussion" about Asian guys and their chances with Chinese girls.
Caucasians.
Let's face it. They look different, talk different and are generally perceived to be "well-endowed below", and have a fat wallet stashed with Chairman Maos. There are certainly going to be girls who dig you if your skin is white. It's like Asian guys who have a thing for Korean or Japanese girls. How is it any different really? If anything, the number of guys who fancy the aforementioned girls form a much greater % than the Chinese women who go for Westerners. When you really look at the numbers. The % of girls who go for "Westerners" in China is far smaller than say in Singapore, or other parts of South East Asia.
A large majority of Chinese girls (I'd say above 65%) still don't fancy the idea of a Western BF, partly due to language barrier but also due to perceived differences in culture.
Asian (dark-skinned)
And I don't mean tanned overseas Chinese. This group will certainly have a harder time with Chinese girls IN GENERAL. Language barriers, cultural differences, skin color etc. The good thing though is that there will always be girls who crave something different just like with Caucasians.
Overseas Chinese.
This group isn't a bad group to be in at all. If you come off as being different from local guys and can show your "foreign" side ie. Mature, gentlemanly, mastery of English etc, then you have an edge over the average local guy and other racial groups. And you'd have the advantage over the Westerners due to a perceived similarity of roots and most likely at least some rudimentary Putonghua. Not forgetting the favorable exchange rate to the Chinese Yuan and much bigger pool of women who will accept you and can communicate with you.
Yeah, that's a very generic simple base analysis but it's 3am in the morning! And you get the general idea. I find it hilarious when people dredge up some school university campus with a small sample size and make it look like it's a real world scenario. Most Chinese women would go for "Westerners", OBCs (Overseas born Chinese) and local Chinese over guys from the Middle-east and Central-Asia. The latter group might get away with it if they look "Western" enough for some girls but many don't.
Again, I'm not referring to some "throwaway" Chinese girls (quote Shikkar) on some campus that make up a small sample.
I guess those girls were desperate for foreigners after all. (quote Shikkar)
In conclusion, would it be nice sometimes to be a "Westerner"? Sure, why not?
Does it suck to be OBC since you look Chinese? Not really. You just need to make sure people notice you're different.
My 2 cents.
What would you do if a 21 yrs girl could accompany you for two days & do you whatsoever favor you like for two days, at 2K. I am wondering how to do with this offer I got today.
She is 21yrs old girl from Xi'an, a freelance, who had been working at MZD.
<pros
Very good at massage.
Very cute & tall, though, a bit fat.
Nice character. Warm, kind, smiles a lot.
<cons
Average in bed.
A bit fat.
She looks very countryside, so it's not carefree for me to going out with her.
Any opinions would be very much welcomed. Thanks.
Member #4144
01-21-12, 08:59
What would you do if a 21 yrs girl could accompany you for two days & do you whatsoever favor you like for two days, at 2K. I am wondering how to do with this offer I got today.
She is 21yrs old girl from Xi'an, a freelance, who had been working at MZD.
<pros
Very good at massage.
Very cute & tall, though, a bit fat.
Nice character. Warm, kind, smiles a lot.
<cons
Average in bed.
A bit fat.
She looks very countryside, so it's not carefree for me to going out with her.
Any opinions would be very much welcomed. Thanks.If fat and poor in bed, then she is worthless, don't even take her if she is free.
Good in bed means post-intercouse-remove-condom-BBBJ, if a girl cannot do that, forget about it.
Fillmore
Member #4144
01-21-12, 09:01
Fucking awesome for a "50 plus old man".
Shows you can be 50 but possess a xiaodidi that is still 30.Maybe you have been reading my posts on Dongguan, the xiaodidi part is just vitamin C, hahah, I take 1/3 of a bill every two days, but do indeed every day spent 4 to 5 hours having sex for a whole week.
Fillmore
Most Chinese women would go for "Westerners", OBCs (Overseas born Chinese) and local Chinese over guys from the Middle-east and Central-Asia. The latter group might get away with it if they look "Western" enough for some girls but many don't.So you must be a Chinese girl writing? If not in what do you base that statement and your other "scientific" statement of 65%
The other day I was called by a telephone seller trying to sell some computers or something, I said to her in my basic Chinese that I was foreigner and didn't understand her and was not interested in buying. She then continued to try to talk with me and ask where I was from and so on, I said Ruishi (switzerland) to her, but she got it Yindu (India) , so I said yes I'm (yindu) because I just wanted to quit the conversation. Then later to my surprise she asked for my QQ number, never have a Chinese girl asked for my QQ before when I have said that I'm Swiss (I'm not ugly). So its always not how you think things are. Chinese people don't divide people in race, either you are Chinese, overseas Chinese or foreigner (that is, british, japaneese, German, middle eastern, Korean or whatever)
You as Sikkhar seem to be 2 funny guys that don't seem to know much about women here, maybe you should have a read here http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/understanding-attraction-foreign-men-china.htm, that is more scientific than your 65, according to that research around 95% would not prefer foreigners. You have probably hang around to much on expat bars, night clubs where the english speaking girls looking for foreginers are, they don't represent the whole population of women. Probably is this type of women you have been meeting http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/narcissistic-types-chinese-women.htm
Maybe you have been reading my posts on Dongguan, the xiaodidi part is just vitamin C, hahah, I take 1/3 of a bill every two days, but do indeed every day spent 4 to 5 hours having sex for a whole week.
FillmoreYou guys heard the one about "The Three Bears"?
Shikkar,
Chinese guys looks great because they look exactly what they are right now:
Straight Black hair, mostly well combed.
Slim or petite, muscular for an asian.
Hairless chest and beardless.
Cute slit eyes.
We look great because of the above said qualities which you said aren't attractive to girls. BTW I am not saying western boys are not attractive but beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. If some Chinese gals or western gals don't appreciate the above qualities then its their loss.
Chinese guys are still very traditional and still prefer Chinese girls for wives, mistresses and prostitutes. Imagine one day all these changes and Chinese guys only go for foreign girls, Chinese prostitute industry might collapsed. Good way of cleaning the streets rather trying to prevent prostitution through law.
BTW there are so many gals around we are not short of girls or freebies, just that we have a disadvantage at certain web sites.
Yu out.Ok mate we don't want an argument here.
You concept of beauty lies on your eyes and mine on my eyes.
If you come outside of China you will feel how other country people treat on you.
Just go US, you will find chineseman dating big fat ughly american women.
Vist middle east mainly Dubai, bharin. Sudi. Where you can find the cheapest prostitue is PRC. With enough rasial disccrimation.
Vist Singapore, malasyia. If you want a clear picture, feel free to have a chat with the prostitutes over ther. They will be dealing every nation people. You will know where you people stands in beauty.
Ask some PRC women who is married to a japanese men. As I got a female friend who is married to a japanese. On her words japanese people doest speak if they found she is Chinese in public. Like a coldwar.
Anyone can sit in your room and type as you like in your mind. Bhla bhala.
Just try to socialise with diffrent country people or come ouside of this country. You will find where you score. You will experiance how blacks abuse on Chinese flat ass girls and. Whites abuse small pennis of men.
Shikkar
So you must be a Chinese girl writing? If not in what do you base that statement and your other "scientific" statement of 65%
The other day I was called by a telephone seller trying to sell some computers or something, I said to her in my basic Chinese that I was foreigner and didn't understand her and was not interested in buying. She then continued to try to talk with me and ask where I was from and so on, I said Ruishi (switzerland) to her, but she got it Yindu (India) , so I said yes I'm (yindu) because I just wanted to quit the conversation. Then later to my surprise she asked for my QQ number, never have a Chinese girl asked for my QQ before when I have said that I'm Swiss (I'm not ugly). So its always not how you think things are. Chinese people don't divide people in race, either you are Chinese, overseas Chinese or foreigner (that is, british, japaneese, German, middle eastern, Korean or whatever)
You as Sikkhar seem to be 2 funny guys that don't seem to know much about women here, maybe you should have a read here.
http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/understanding-attraction-foreign-men-china.htm
, that is more scientific than your 65, according to that research around 95% would not prefer foreigners. You have probably hang around to much on expat bars, night clubs where the english speaking girls looking for foreginers are, they don't represent the whole population of women. Probably is this type of women you have been meeting.
http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/narcissistic-types-chinese-women.htmHa ha ha. You only got one girls experiance. But I am daily dealing with this shit.
We know, sorry I know atleast how to pronounce my country name in Chinese. So you can imagine how long I have been living and experiancing with this Chinese culture and people. Anyway it will be more than you. Sure.
About 'Yindu'. These Chinese tv channels are programed with lot of bollywood serials and movies. So Chinese people are well aware of indian people face better than your country people face. As its a neighbouring country its mostly on news channels. Tooo.
If you has Chinese friend just ask whether indiangirls are beautiful or not?
If you can understant Chinese take a look to 'hunnan tv'. There is a programe name 'take to me out'. Almost like dating. Where lot of foreigners came his Chinese gf. Yes I can read, write and understand Chinese far far better than you. As I am follwing this tv show for past four years I well aware of how Chinese look over foreigners. That knowledge is far better than your 400 words weblink.
I am deeling with this shit for quite a while now. So don't try to judge by your silly assumptions. Its a request!
Sounds good, but where to find?Common man. Are you new to beijing?
Just take a taxi ask the driver 'xio jie' (WG). Or show international sex symbol with your fingers. He will take you to one of the cheap red light streets. Just go toTiamen. If you find someone alone. Show something in mobile ask for what it is, or as some doubt about place. Etc. Etc. Start conversation. Invite coffee. Remaing depends on your ability.
Tiamen is better place as it is full of native tourist. Chance for quick sex is more. As they don't have give a dates for weekends if she is a working women or go home early.
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All you need is show some brave mind.
No use you reading ISG posts and masterbating in your room. Come out and find someone.
These Chinese girls are not your sisters or family members or relatives. Don't care if you pissedoff with someone. You are not going to see them in future. If one rejects find another. Things must go on!
Member #4144
01-22-12, 02:04
You guys heard the one about "The Three Bears"?Please enlighten me on this, there is a different Three Bears then children's classic?
Fillmore
I'm not a Chinese girl but I've spoken to many and have lived in China for about 4 years. And I don't talk to the girls in bars nor WGs anywhere. Just normal working-class girls. Is that standard enough fare for you?
You get someone trying to make a sale and you don't think this person is trying to remain in contact for more sales? To paraphrase a Chinese girl who works on a front-desk: "I give away my QQ number to many guys everyday. It's just a QQ number! We give it to anyone who asks" QQ numbers don't mean anything to them. It's just like an email address you may want to have a use for some day. If anything, the Chinese have proven to be aggressive when it comes to making money. Not surprising at all.
Like I said, I don't even hang out at bars much. So you got your facts wrong. As for the statistic of 95, that may be true or not. It's still a small sample size for China. I never said my sample size was huge either. To quote what I said "A large majority of Chinese girls (I'd say above 65%)". I said above 65. Did I say 65? Do you even know how to read? I don't know the exact number but I said a LARGE MAJORITY of Chinese girsl DO NOT fancy the idea of a foreign boyfriend. In other worse, that quote does not contradict the article you linked which I won't even bother with. A large majority could be 65% to 90, I don't care to guess the exact percentage. Besides, truth be told, I did not want to argue about semantics. And this is exactly what you're doing. Picking on a number when the essence of my statement agrees with the very statistics you pulled. Great comeback! LOL! Your comprehension fails, I'm afraid.
So you must be a Chinese girl writing? If not in what do you base that statement and your other "scientific" statement of 65%
The other day I was called by a telephone seller trying to sell some computers or something, I said to her in my basic Chinese that I was foreigner and didn't understand her and was not interested in buying. She then continued to try to talk with me and ask where I was from and so on, I said Ruishi (switzerland) to her, but she got it Yindu (India) , so I said yes I'm (yindu) because I just wanted to quit the conversation. Then later to my surprise she asked for my QQ number, never have a Chinese girl asked for my QQ before when I have said that I'm Swiss (I'm not ugly). So its always not how you think things are. Chinese people don't divide people in race, either you are Chinese, overseas Chinese or foreigner (that is, british, japaneese, German, middle eastern, Korean or whatever)
You as Sikkhar seem to be 2 funny guys that don't seem to know much about women here, maybe you should have a read here.
http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/understanding-attraction-foreign-men-china.htm
, that is more scientific than your 65, according to that research around 95% would not prefer foreigners. You have probably hang around to much on expat bars, night clubs where the english speaking girls looking for foreginers are, they don't represent the whole population of women. Probably is this type of women you have been meeting.
http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/narcissistic-types-chinese-women.htm
Chu Xiang Yu
01-22-12, 10:49
Ok mate we don't want an argument here.
You concept of beauty lies on your eyes and mine on my eyes.
If you come outside of China you will feel how other country people treat on you.
Just go US, you will find chineseman dating big fat ughly american women.
Vist middle east mainly Dubai, bharin. Sudi. Where you can find the cheapest prostitue is PRC. With enough rasial disccrimation.
Vist Singapore, malasyia. If you want a clear picture, feel free to have a chat with the prostitutes over ther. They will be dealing every nation people. You will know where you people stands in beauty.
Ask some PRC women who is married to a japanese men. As I got a female friend who is married to a japanese. On her words japanese people doest speak if they found she is Chinese in public. Like a coldwar.
Anyone can sit in your room and type as you like in your mind. Bhla bhala.
Just try to socialise with diffrent country people or come ouside of this country. You will find where you score. You will experiance how blacks abuse on Chinese flat ass girls and. Whites abuse small pennis of men.
ShikkarNow at least there is some truth in what you say. I have seen enough local Chinese girls in Malaysia and Singapore who worship indian guys like gods. Indian guys almost have equal chances of scoring a local Chinese girl as whites in these countries. While PRC prostitutes there can be fuck for as cheap as 50 bucks by man of all races including the bangladesh construction workers who have temporary work permit. Unimaginably cheap and price discrimination is being practiced, where a higher price is being charged for local Chinese simply because they are richer. I know, I have witness it.
Just to let you know, Chinese guys can just score on indian girls or foreign girls just as easily as indian or white can on Chinese girls, or maybe even easier. Its just that you have not seen it. I have.
Chu Xiang Yu
01-22-12, 11:18
Shikkar,
You mentioned that foreign girls are really difficult for a Chinese guy to get, but the truth is if we just try, its not that hard. I for one manage to get in a date or two.
The things is, I use to go out with an indian girl, but the strange thing is, when a Chinese girl hang out with an indian guy or kissed him passionately in public, no one batters an eyelid. When I go out with her, the world is like gone crazy, Chinese girls start to give you haughty stares and Chinese guys look at you strangely and indian guys and girls alike look at you with bewilderment and amazement and as if the girl that go out with me is worse than prostitute.
Well the things is, I think indian girls now aregetting more educated so are going to be just as open minded as Chinese girls. So what you says about indian girls being more traditional and hard to get are just bullshit. I dare say in time all types of girls are going to open minded and will be going out with all types of guys, regardless of race.
Yu out.
Shikkar,
You mentioned that foreign girls are really difficult for a Chinese guy to get, but the truth is if we just try, its not that hard. I for one manage to get in a date or two.
The things is, I use to go out with an indian girl, but the strange thing is, when a Chinese girl hang out with an indian guy or kissed him passionately in public, no one batters an eyelid. When I go out with her, the world is like gone crazy, Chinese girls start to give you haughty stares and Chinese guys look at you strangely and indian guys and girls alike look at you with bewilderment and amazement and as if the girl that go out with me is worse than prostitute.
Well the things is, I think indian girls now aregetting more educated so are going to be just as open minded as Chinese girls. So what you says about indian girls being more traditional and hard to get are just bullshit. I dare say in time all types of girls are going to open minded and will be going out with all types of guys, regardless of race.
Yu out..
Ok mate, you belive what you belive and I belive what I belive.
Don't forget to report sucess with your Chinese looks. After all its all about mongering.
As you said beauty lies on the eyes of beholder. Thats why people are amazed to see you with an indian girl. , These kind of things are not seeing on everydaylife. As its quite rare. Like blacks hangout with Chinese girls are quite amazed and focused in public. Here the same. Especially the indian alike people looking at you both. .
BTW. You asked some help before as favour now I ask you something.
If you don't mind, share you dating experiance with us. How far it goes. Any physical relation. So so.
Share something good to the forum and fellow readers rather than making argument!
Shikkar!
Please enlighten me on this, there is a different Three Bears then children's classic?
FillmoreAaahh yep that's the one, great story for kids. Bit like this thread lately?
BTW, I'm sure all western men will be devastated that more than 65% of Chinese women are not interested in them.
That would be close to the same number that can not speak English I think.
Here's a statistical opinion for any Chinese girl reading and or writing on this thread.
95% of western guys just want to F*k Chinese girls, they don't want to keep one:
My advice; stick to the WGs, there are no free anythings in China.
Let's not forget the number 1 rule;"money is the great aphrodisiac".
Hi Dynamic,
I believe you're referring to Roger9 but since you used my "more than 65%" proxy number, I'm going to say this much.
My post was not even directed at Western guys. If you even read it, it even mentioned that yes, it would be nice to be a Westerner at times.
Because it's just fast and easy with girls who like to try something different and White guys are it.
My post was meant to be a counter to those saying looking Chinese was a disadvantage. I wanted to highlight that it can be a good thing as well.
Anyway. 35% (or less for roger9) of the Chinese population is huge. More than enough for all the laowais in China.
And yes, I agree with you. Money triumphs all skin color. It only matters if your Porsche 911 is Red or Black. Red is cooler.
Aaahh yep that's the one, great story for kids. Bit like this thread lately?
BTW, I'm sure all western men will be devastated that more than 65% of Chinese women are not interested in them.
That would be close to the same number that can not speak English I think.
Here's a statistical opinion for any Chinese girl reading and or writing on this thread.
95% of western guys just want to F*k Chinese girls, they don't want to keep one:
My advice; stick to the WGs, there are no free anythings in China.
Let's not forget the number 1 rule;"money is the great aphrodisiac".
Hi Dynamic,
I believe you're referring to Roger9 but since you used my "more than 65%" proxy number, I'm going to say this much.
My post was not even directed at Western guys. If you even read it, it even mentioned that yes, it would be nice to be a Westerner at times.
Because it's just fast and easy with girls who like to try something different and White guys are it.
My post was meant to be a counter to those saying looking Chinese was a disadvantage. I wanted to highlight that it can be a good thing as well.
Anyway. 35% (or less for roger9) of the Chinese population is huge. More than enough for all the laowais in China.
And yes, I agree with you. Money triumphs all skin color. It only matters if your Porsche 911 is Red or Black. Red is cooler.Aaaahhh no, I replied to Fillmore, look at the quote. This whole discussion / argument is childish. That's my point! Statistics mean nothing, one rule I follow in China is you should never try to understand Chinese women, in fact, this applies to a lesser degree to all women. As per my original statement, all Chinese women want SOMETHING, that will mean you as a man (Chinese or otherwise) will pay in one way or another.
Western men will probably pay less because we are not particularly interested in the virgins who are laying the honey trap, for a nice, rich, Chinese boy with a well to do family, house, and possibly a car. Once I felt sorry for these boys, but now I realize it is what they expect, it is all part of the culture and tradition that has made China the most populated country in the world. Marriage early, baby, happy families (in laws)
These are not the type of girls that we are interested in, and usually don't get too much mention on this forum. If you are Chinese, you will certainly attract these prissy, spoiled little princesses, and you are welcome to them! ! Free? I don't think so, you will pay and pay, and pay.
Just leave the bad girls to us Lao Wei.
BTW how many Chinese boys would you say are saving themselves for marriage I. E. No sex?
Anyone try the hot little tight-bodied spinner from Kenya named Angel? Wondering how the service was.
Anyone try the hot little tight-bodied spinner from Kenya named Angel? Wondering how the service was.Kajos, how about some more info, can you PM me? Where did you see this gem?
At Chocolate a few days a was a group of african girls and the best looking one was about 165 cm, great tight slim body and firm little ass, had a good laugh and smile. Really cute looking, bright eyes, warm skin, cute hair with it cut straight across in the front. I was with a bunch of guys and we went on to another place so I got her number and was thinking about calling her, but wanted some feedback. She was fun and moved well.
Will PM you her number now.
Kajos, how about some more info, can you PM me? Where did you see this gem?
At Chocolate a few days a was a group of african girls and the best looking one was about 165 cm, great tight slim body and firm little ass, had a good laugh and smile. Really cute looking, bright eyes, warm skin, cute hair with it cut straight across in the front. I was with a bunch of guys and we went on to another place so I got her number and was thinking about calling her, but wanted some feedback. She was fun and moved well.
Will PM you her number now.Chocolate? I assume it's a club? Can you tell me more about it? I know it can be fun to have a different flavor of "ice cream" sometimes when living in a foreign country. I'm a big fan of slender black girls who are NOT from the US. Thanks in advance.
Beijing Fox
01-28-12, 19:59
Hey Guys,
I used to live in Beijing since before the Olympics and this thread was much more informative then.
We didn't ***** about each other, but exchanged information about where to come best with what provider.
This seems to have changed. Please reinstall the original spirit.
BTW, I'm now in India and 'life' is not much more difficult than in China. Enjoy Beijing.
Regards,
The fox
The Tanuki
01-29-12, 03:26
Chocolate? I assume it's a club? Can you tell me more about it? I know it can be fun to have a different flavor of "ice cream" sometimes when living in a foreign country. I'm a big fan of slender black girls who are NOT from the US. Thanks in advance.Yes, Chocolate is a club, essentially a Russian joint. It's on the SW corner of Ritan Park. It's a huge place and they play techno-rave type of music quite a bit. You might get pulled into the dance crowd which is fun. There's some decent food and drinks are about half what Maggies charges. There are shishas, too, if you like that (I do!). Lots of long legs in the place but the WG's won't approach you. If you're interested you can talk to them. I've only been there a few times and over a year ago the last, but never saw any african ladies. That would add some spice to the crowd for sure. Don't go before 11:30.
TT
Yes, Chocolate is a club, essentially a Russian joint. It's on the SW corner of Ritan Park. It's a huge place and they play techno-rave type of music quite a bit. You might get pulled into the dance crowd which is fun. There's some decent food and drinks are about half what Maggies charges. There are shishas, too, if you like that (I do!). Lots of long legs in the place but the WG's won't approach you. If you're interested you can talk to them. I've only been there a few times and over a year ago the last, but never saw any african ladies. That would add some spice to the crowd for sure. Don't go before 11:30.
TTSounds like you have the strategy! Would love to live in China for an extended period so I could spend a lot of time at such clubs. Why won't the WGs approach guys? After all, they are there to make money.
The Tanuki
01-29-12, 08:16
Sounds like you have the strategy! Would love to live in China for an extended period so I could spend a lot of time at such clubs. Why won't the WGs approach guys? After all, they are there to make money.I think the "format" of the club is for the WG's to just wait for you to initiate things. Anyhow when I was there I had lady friends with me so I didn't have the opportunity to go chat with any. There is some really awesome stuff there, though. But I think the CIS girls might have higher rates. Anyone have recent experience with them?
TT
Hey Guys,
I used to live in Beijing since before the Olympics and this thread was much more informative then.
We didn't * about each other, but exchanged information about where to come best with what provider.
This seems to have changed. Please reinstall the original spirit.
BTW, I'm now in India and 'life' is not much more difficult than in China. Enjoy Beijing.
Regards,
The foxSince you left Beijing there have been several series of LE crackdowns. So now it is better to post only general info and let people exchange things via PM if more information is needed. Been to India and have to agree, no matter how tough we might think it is in Beijing it is wonderful compared to trying to monger in India.
Bad Boy Billy
01-29-12, 23:00
But I think the CIS girls might have higher rates. Anyone have recent experience with them?
TTMate you know where to turn to if you want accurate / up to date info on BJ don't you?
Almost ALL girls in Chocolate are asking RMB1, 500 ST. Ruskies will not bend from that figure. The African girls will go ST 1, 000 with ease. Uzbeks will also go for 1, 000 with a bit of work.
Kajos was asking about Angel. Body appeared tight enough but tiny titts.
Mate you know where to turn to if you want accurate / up to date info on BJ don't you?
Almost ALL girls in Chocolate are asking RMB1, 500 ST. Ruskies will not bend from that figure. The African girls will go ST 1, 000 with ease. Uzbeks will also go for 1, 000 with a bit of work.
Kajos was asking about Angel. Body appeared tight enough but tiny titts.Are Russian women considered the best? I'm sure there are some hot,"pure" Russian women, but I find the Uzbeks can have a superior blend of Western and Asian beauty that's hard to beat. What do you guys think?
Spent the opening of the CNY in Beijing. From CNY last year I had discovered a fantastic little Chinese girl who fucks me to a T. Found in the massage area of a 2 star hotel. I had her number and she remembered me. Plus, she had added a translator to her phone which was great. 500 for the hour and she asked me to keep her number. I'll call her when I return to Beijing. I just sent a message to my regular girl in Shanghai. She's back from vacation and will fuck me silly tomorrow afternoon. Guys who have a problem getting fucked in either Beijing or Shanghai have problems.
The Tanuki
01-30-12, 10:24
Are Russian women considered the best? I'm sure there are some hot,"pure" Russian women, but I find the Uzbeks can have a superior blend of Western and Asian beauty that's hard to beat. What do you guys think?A mathematical formula:
[Physical attributes] x [the number of drinks you've had] x [number of days since you last got laid] ÷ [cost of her ass] = Pussy Value.
Of course, she can lean over and give you a tit shot, bend over to tie her shoe or something, and the one-eyed penisaurus makes the call for you anyhow, regardless of the big head's best intentions.
Personally, I've had a couple CIS babes who were starfish so I have lost interest in them, hot as they can be. Only know one Uzbeki for sure and have not tried her as she's a bit chubby. Generally, though, I'd agree that the Asian / Western mix can be truly awesome.
TT
The Tanuki
01-30-12, 10:26
Mate you know where to turn to if you want accurate / up to date info on BJ don't you?
Almost ALL girls in Chocolate are asking RMB1, 500 ST. Ruskies will not bend from that figure. The African girls will go ST 1, 000 with ease. Uzbeks will also go for 1, 000 with a bit of work.
Kajos was asking about Angel. Body appeared tight enough but tiny titts.Yes, Billy, I know best to turn to your ultimate guidance. Just hadn't seen you on here lately.
BTW I'm working on a getting a trip to BJ sometime. Hope to find you there.
TT
Bad Boy Billy
01-30-12, 22:15
BTW I'm working on a getting a trip to BJ sometime. Hope to find you there.I will be in Beijing March 22, 23 and 24. But will be very short of time. Arrive BJ at midnight on 22nd and fly out to Phils either 00:30 on 24th or early am.
A mathematical formula:
[Physical attributes] x [the number of drinks you've had] x [number of days since you last got laid] ÷ [cost of her ass] = Pussy Value.
Of course, she can lean over and give you a tit shot, bend over to tie her shoe or something, and the one-eyed penisaurus makes the call for you anyhow, regardless of the big head's best intentions.
Personally, I've had a couple CIS babes who were starfish so I have lost interest in them, hot as they can be. Only know one Uzbeki for sure and have not tried her as she's a bit chubby. Generally, though, I'd agree that the Asian / Western mix can be truly awesome.
TTGood analogy, but what is CIS?
Tony Knight
01-31-12, 05:03
I will be in Beijing, Guangzhou, Changdu in May. Would love to get numbers or addresses of any places offer FS. I can speak some of the Common Language but I am white. Can you PM me.
Thanks
The Tanuki
01-31-12, 09:39
Good analogy, but what is CIS?The former Soviet countries.
TT
The former Soviet countries.
TTThanks once again TT, but what do the letters C I S actually stand for?
Thanks once again TT, but what do the letters C I S actually stand for?Commonwealth of Independent States.
-J
I will be in Beijing, Guangzhou, Changdu in May. Would love to get numbers or addresses of any places offer FS. I can speak some of the Common Language but I am white. Can you PM me.
ThanksThis dud is a COP!
This dud is a COP!Based on prevalence and flagrant advertising (signs with prices listed in storefront windows in Kowloon) I don't think LE in HK is all that concerned about enforcing prostitution laws outside of trying to heel gangs outside the authorized triad. But certainly a case can be made here for RTFF.
Based on prevalence and flagrant advertising (signs with prices listed in storefront windows in Kowloon) I don't think LE in HK is all that concerned about enforcing prostitution laws outside of trying to heel gangs outside the authorized triad. But certainly a case can be made here for RTFF.Thought I was on the Hong Kong thread. (and a case of RTFF to stooopid me) Sorry guys. Could indeed by LE. Oh, nevermiiiiiind.
Based on prevalence and flagrant advertising (signs with prices listed in storefront windows in Kowloon) I don't think LE in HK is all that concerned about enforcing prostitution laws outside of trying to heel gangs outside the authorized triad. But certainly a case can be made here for RTFF.Authorized triad? Now that's a concept of which I'd never heard!
Shanghai Guide
02-02-12, 16:05
This dud is a COP!I am not sure if it is necessary to hide information from the cops here. There are many Chinese pages and forums where you can find contact information and comments with very detailed information about their "service", so why any cop should go for hunting on a international english page. Should be much more easy for a Chinese cop to check the Chinese forum information. And to be honest, does any of you guys really think we have information here not also popular for Chinese customers? I don`t think so, because no sauna or massage parlor can survive only with western customers and if they offer special service to their Chinese clients, they will be found also in Chinese recommendation pages.
Tony Knight
02-03-12, 04:05
This dud is a COP!I am for sure not a cop. I am 60 years old. Most cops are retired or dead by 60. On Spa Hunter my rank is 11 #130. Named BlueKnight. I will quess I could always ask at the Hotel. Since wo xuexi Hanyu. Now I got to find the words for full service. Do not think I can ask my laoshi. My teacher is a she and goggle transation sucks.
Member #4144
02-03-12, 15:32
I am not sure if it is necessary to hide information from the cops here. There are many Chinese pages and forums where you can find contact information and comments with very detailed information about their "service", so why any cop should go for hunting on a international english page. Should be much more easy for a Chinese cop to check the Chinese forum information. And to be honest, does any of you guys really think we have information here not also popular for Chinese customers? I don`t think so, because no sauna or massage parlor can survive only with western customers and if they offer special service to their Chinese clients, they will be found also in Chinese recommendation pages.
I hate to disagree with you, as you write nicely and clearly, but I found ISG to be much more informative, so it is really an easy forum for LE to check. All the Chinese sites are full of junks, so useful info are usually very hard to come by. I am sure the LE will have people full time following the ever changing array of sites looking for clues, but most "info" posted on these sites were fakes. A Chinese monger will need to spend a lot of time on a particular site to gain his status to have access to real info, and even then, there are still so much junks posted that he will still need to waste a lot of time before hitting something real and useful.
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The ISG, on the otherhand, is a stable website and well maintained both by Jackson and all of us, so it is actually relatively easy to find useful info here, just my two cents.
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Fillmore
I think Yanjiao is up and running, at least some of it definitely is.
Tony Knight
02-06-12, 02:29
I think Yanjiao is up and running, at least some of it definitely is.Could not find the site. Can you give me the complete link.
RolandOrzab
02-06-12, 03:26
New to all of this, RTFF but have a few questions.
What are typical hours of operation for BBS, I. E. Are they open for sexy time at 3:00 PM?
I plan on making it out to Yanjiao in the near future, anybody want to show a new brother the ropes?
Member #4683
02-06-12, 11:17
Could not find the site. Can you give me the complete link.Sounds nice! Getting ready for the road trip.
Please make more info public, thanks a lot.
Big Joe 11
02-07-12, 03:21
If I am go to Hong kong right after my beijing trip, should I ever bother hobby at beijing (I am staying for 3 days)?
Member #4144
02-07-12, 15:00
If I am go to Hong kong right after my beijing trip, should I ever bother hobby at beijing (I am staying for 3 days)?I love BJ, even just give me one night, I can have so much fun, but then, I like Chinese girls. HK is great, but just not the same type of girls. Things are much easier in HK, that is for sure, especially if you are not familiar with the scene.
Fillmore
True Panda
02-08-12, 08:15
Hi Dynamic, what do you mean that you think Yianjiao is up again? I was there (Roman Holidays) on January 10 and it was definitely closed. Can you please clarify? Are you referring to the Roman Holidays? Thanks a lot.
I think Yanjiao is up and running, at least some of it definitely is.
Hey ISG'ers,
Been following this forum for around two months now, around when I found out I was headed to beijing for a little bit of work. First pro experience actually, obviously just getting my feet wet. But hopefully plenty more to come! Unfortunately unable to use any of the outcall providers since I'm with the family.
In my casual forum browsing I stumbled upon quite a few reports about the yanjiao area, and thought I'd check it out today. Bad news. Heard from my taxi driver that roman holiday Is shut down for good. Apparently a run-in with some higher ups and someone got rubbed the wrong way. I'd like to hope for the best, but I'm not too optimistic.
Visited place near the corner of the main street and Yan Ling Road. Called Red Sun (&32418; &22826; &38451. An average looking store front with 3 guys at reception, surprisingly. Apparently a sauna, but no showering facilities when I asked, the first thing they said in Chinese was "no shower, but if you want girls come around back" room itself was pretty shabby. 7 or 8 girls smoking and playing mahjong. Pick one and they take you into a side room which has been poorly split into 3 areas with a single bed in each.
Forgot to get the names of the girls, a mistake I will remember for next time:
Girl 1. Around 22/23. Said she'd only been there a week.
Looks: 8. Super cute face, nice long hair, minimal make up which is a huge plus for me.
Body: 7. Good height, and super slim. Small B cups, so rather small but still looked really good on her.
Service: 6. No kissing on the face, so obviously no frenching either. Good BBBJ, enthusiastic but nothing spectacular. DATY available, and with good reactions.
FS: 7. Usual positions all available (missionary, cowgirl, doggy). No anal but I only asked once and didn't offer extra so could still be on if you tried harder. Very enthusiastic and makes some really nice sounds, ran out of energy a little fast though.
GFE: 9. A big surprise. When I walked in she said I reminded her of her little brother (I look young, sue me). Talks and laughs, and constantly smiling which is a huge plus. Only time she felt like a pro was when she told me to strip.
Damage: 200RMB. There is some sort of time limit (30-40 minutes it felt like) but it wasn't enforced at all, just depends on the girl and chemistry.
Girl 2. Around 30. Got her after Girl 1 because I was nervous and couldn't finish, and Girl 1 said she had the most experience.
Looks: 5. Older, nothing to get excited about.
Body: 6. Definitely on the fat side, with a bigger C cup to match.
Service: 8. Much more enthusiastic and skilled BBBJ, actively licking and overall surprisingly good.
FS: 7. Same as above, did everything I wanted but nothing special.
GFE: 8. Not quite as friendly but still didn't feel much like a pro at all. Called me cute a number of times. After finishing she cleaned me up and stayed and chatted for a while before going outside. Someone knocked to remind us time was up but she didn't slow down at all.
Damage: 300RMB. 100 extra for CIM.
Total: 500+160taxi (930 from near guomao definitely the budget way to go)
WIR: most likely, because it is close and cheaper than most places near the CBD for FS. Obviously too far or too run down for some people though. No rush, did feel like the girls were enjoying it and there were a few more hotties in that room. One made a face at me when I kicked her out of the bathroom as she brushed her teeth, and I love girls with a bit of attitude. Might go back and see her make some different faces next time.
For those interested, got to chatting with my driver on the way back. He says that even classier saunas in yanjiao with proper facilities and all might set you back 300 max for FS. Definitely will try if I get the chance, I'd love to spend a whole day there wandering around and seeing the sights.
Constructive criticism welcomed people! Just a new guy trying to help any way I can. Happy belated cny to you all!
Hey ISG'ers,
Been following this forum for around two months now, around when I found out I was headed to beijing for a little bit of work. First pro experience actually, obviously just getting my feet wet. But hopefully plenty more to come! Unfortunately unable to use any of the outcall providers since I'm with the family.
In my casual forum browsing I stumbled upon quite a few reports about the yanjiao area, and thought I'd check it out today. Bad news. Heard from my taxi driver that roman holiday Is shut down for good. Apparently a run-in with some higher ups and someone got rubbed the wrong way. I'd like to hope for the best, but I'm not too optimistic.
Visited place near the corner of the main street and Yan Ling Road. Called Red Sun (&32418; &22826; &38451. An average looking store front with 3 guys at reception, surprisingly. Apparently a sauna, but no showering facilities when I asked, the first thing they said in Chinese was "no shower, but if you want girls come around back" room itself was pretty shabby. 7 or 8 girls smoking and playing mahjong. Pick one and they take you into a side room which has been poorly split into 3 areas with a single bed in each.
Forgot to get the names of the girls, a mistake I will remember for next time:
Girl 1. Around 22/23. Said she'd only been there a week.
Looks: 8. Super cute face, nice long hair, minimal make up which is a huge plus for me.
Body: 7. Good height, and super slim. Small B cups, so rather small but still looked really good on her.
Service: 6. No kissing on the face, so obviously no frenching either. Good BBBJ, enthusiastic but nothing spectacular. DATY available, and with good reactions.
FS: 7. Usual positions all available (missionary, cowgirl, doggy). No anal but I only asked once and didn't offer extra so could still be on if you tried harder. Very enthusiastic and makes some really nice sounds, ran out of energy a little fast though.
GFE: 9. A big surprise. When I walked in she said I reminded her of her little brother (I look young, sue me). Talks and laughs, and constantly smiling which is a huge plus. Only time she felt like a pro was when she told me to strip.
Damage: 200RMB. There is some sort of time limit (30-40 minutes it felt like) but it wasn't enforced at all, just depends on the girl and chemistry.
Girl 2. Around 30. Got her after Girl 1 because I was nervous and couldn't finish, and Girl 1 said she had the most experience.
Looks: 5. Older, nothing to get excited about.
Body: 6. Definitely on the fat side, with a bigger C cup to match.
Service: 8. Much more enthusiastic and skilled BBBJ, actively licking and overall surprisingly good.
FS: 7. Same as above, did everything I wanted but nothing special.
GFE: 8. Not quite as friendly but still didn't feel much like a pro at all. Called me cute a number of times. After finishing she cleaned me up and stayed and chatted for a while before going outside. Someone knocked to remind us time was up but she didn't slow down at all.
Damage: 300RMB. 100 extra for CIM.
Total: 500+160taxi (930 from near guomao definitely the budget way to go)
WIR: most likely, because it is close and cheaper than most places near the CBD for FS. Obviously too far or too run down for some people though. No rush, did feel like the girls were enjoying it and there were a few more hotties in that room. One made a face at me when I kicked her out of the bathroom as she brushed her teeth, and I love girls with a bit of attitude. Might go back and see her make some different faces next time.
For those interested, got to chatting with my driver on the way back. He says that even classier saunas in yanjiao with proper facilities and all might set you back 300 max for FS. Definitely will try if I get the chance, I'd love to spend a whole day there wandering around and seeing the sights.
Constructive criticism welcomed people! Just a new guy trying to help any way I can. Happy belated cny to you all!You want constructive criticism? I think you let your guard down fucking a fat girl. LOL. Just kidding. Very informative post and keep up the good work! I only wished I lived there. I would rip that pussy market upside down.
Hi Dynamic, what do you mean that you think Yianjiao is up again? I was there (Roman Holidays) on January 10 and it was definitely closed. Can you please clarify? Are you referring to the Roman Holidays? Thanks a lot.Don't know about Roman Holiday, but I was in Yanjiao last night and my normal haunt was up and running, albeit not at the normal strength. Only 3 girls working at 1am and service was pretty ordinary. Maybe it will take some time to get back to it's former glory. Think many girls have moved on, but could be better to get there earlier during the week?
Guys, are there any places in Beijing CBD area where you can go for a nice BBS or HJ / FS Massage Parlor or Sauna?
It seems so unconvinient now in Beijing, compare to SH and Guangzhou or rest of the country. Just in good old times when you want to go for a quick and easy fix. Nowadays, itsso hard to find.
Anybody can help?
Gualtier Malde
02-10-12, 06:29
Guys, are there any places in Beijing CBD area where you can go for a nice BBS or HJ / FS Massage Parlor or Sauna?
It seems so unconvinient now in Beijing, compare to SH and Guangzhou or rest of the country. Just in good old times when you want to go for a quick and easy fix. Nowadays, itsso hard to find.
Anybody can help?There are of course expensive places. But I don't see the problem with finding a BBS in Beijing. Seems to me they are everywhere. Except, perhaps you are serious when you combine the word "nice" and BBS in the same sentence. That's a bit more rare. I've yet to find a BBS either here or in Shanghai for that matter that I would call "nice".
But I can walk in just about any neighborhood in Beijing and see shops that are indeed a BBS. The giveaway for the typical one is that it sort of looks like a hair shop, but there is not really any hair work going on, and usually there is just a single female sitting inside, either bored and watching TV, or maybe giving you a smile. I see these everywhere. Just yesterday I passed by two in the Dong Si Dajie area (within a block of the Dong Si subway station on Line 5). But, pick any area, especially with a more settled, less modern community. All these will be quick and cheap spots, many can be convinced to do FS for cheap. All will do HJ, most BBBJ, but some quite reluctantly and badly.
I've found that once I learned how to spot the neighborhood ones (not the few more targeted at westerners) they are hard to miss.
GM.
Gualtier Malde
02-10-12, 09:46
Just to be more helpful from my last post, this (see attached photo) is one of the BBS shops near Dong Si. It is actually along Mei Shu Guan Hou Jie, which is within a "Beijing" block (a couple of regular blocks, but still not a bad walk) to the northwest of the station. Note the girl inside, making a point not to solicit. But if you walk toward the door, she will come and open it, usher you right in.
The girl at this shop is reasonably cute, as this class of BBS girl goes.
GM
Just to be more helpful from my last post, this (see attached photo) is one of the BBS shops near Dong Si. It is actually along Mei Shu Guan Hou Jie, which is within a "Beijing" block (a couple of regular blocks, but still not a bad walk) to the northwest of the station. Note the girl inside, making a point not to solicit. But if you walk toward the door, she will come and open it, usher you right in.
The girl at this shop is reasonably cute, as this class of BBS girl goes.
GMMust have changed girls since I last walked from the bus stop nearby, there used to be a couple of old hags there for years.
There were also some BBS in the lanes running behind this one.
Teltel
Crystal have many new faces in her stables recently.
Last time she arranged Yingying.
Yesterday, she arranged another new girl who is pretty, has good figure and good service.
Crystal told me she has many more different girls.
Just state what type you prefer and she will arrange for you.
They are young, pretty, good figure and good service.
A reliable and friendly Outcall service is hard to find,
Try out Crystal's Outcall service and you will know.
Crystal contact: +86 13651223962
Non-Chinese speaker, please SMS or text.
Bad Boy Billy
02-11-12, 00:55
Crystal have many new faces in her stables recently.
Last time she arranged Yingying.
Yesterday, she arranged another new girl who is pretty, has good figure and good service.
Crystal told me she has many more different girls.
Just state what type you prefer and she will arrange for you.
They are young, pretty, good figure and good service.
A reliable and friendly Outcall service is hard to find,
Try out Crystal's Outcall service and you will know.
Crystal contact: +86 13651223962
Non-Chinese speaker, please SMS or text.Crystal why do you not just advertise your services in the classiefied section?
Do you think all readers of Beijing are as DUMB as you obviously are?
Don't know about Roman Holiday, but I was in Yanjiao last night and my normal haunt was up and running, albeit not at the normal strength. Only 3 girls working at 1am and service was pretty ordinary. Maybe it will take some time to get back to it's former glory. Think many girls have moved on, but could be better to get there earlier during the week?Last afternoon I was there and about 6 girl working, one sleeping, I take one girl. 6, and just was bad experience. Don't touch, you too big, many cream. Before more better if not change girl this was last time there.
Don't know about Roman Holiday, but I was in Yanjiao last night and my normal haunt was up and running, albeit not at the normal strength. Only 3 girls working at 1am and service was pretty ordinary. Maybe it will take some time to get back to it's former glory. Think many girls have moved on, but could be better to get there earlier during the week?Last afternoon I was there. About six girl working, one sleeping, I take one. 6, very bad experience, don't touch you have too big, cream. Before was better, if not change girl this was last time there.
Crystal have many new faces in her stables recently.
Last time she arranged Yingying.
Yesterday, she arranged another new girl who is pretty, has good figure and good service.
Crystal told me she has many more different girls.
Just state what type you prefer and she will arrange for you.
They are young, pretty, good figure and good service.
A reliable and friendly Outcall service is hard to find,
Try out Crystal's Outcall service and you will know.
Crystal contact: +86 13651223962
Non-Chinese speaker, please SMS or text.Folks, you can pass this unless you enjoy shagging 2 baggers.
Don't know about Roman Holiday, but I was in Yanjiao last night and my normal haunt was up and running, albeit not at the normal strength. Only 3 girls working at 1am and service was pretty ordinary. Maybe it will take some time to get back to it's former glory. Think many girls have moved on, but could be better to get there earlier during the week?Hi Dynamic,
Would you mind to share your "normal haunt" (location, services,.). PM might be the better choice not to guide LE. Thanks
Crystal have many new faces in her stables recently.
Last time she arranged Yingying.
Yesterday, she arranged another new girl who is pretty, has good figure and good service.
Crystal told me she has many more different girls.
Just state what type you prefer and she will arrange for you.
They are young, pretty, good figure and good service.
A reliable and friendly Outcall service is hard to find,
Try out Crystal's Outcall service and you will know.
Crystal contact: +86 13651223962
Non-Chinese speaker, please SMS or text.Back awhile I posted on this service, worst out call in BJ IMHO. Got the impression that the business model is to grab some FUGLY from a local BBS when an unsuspecting client was sucked in. Good business if you can get away with it, pay the spitting, smoking, farting little Ho 100 and charge her out at 600.
Stay well clear!
Hi Dynamic,
Would you mind to share your "normal haunt" (location, services.). PM might be the better choice not to guide LE. ThanksRTFF my friend, plenty of info on that place.
Folks, you can pass this unless you enjoy shagging 2 baggers.LOL. Love the play on words! Ever heard of a 3-bagger? That's where she's so ugly she has to wear a bag, you have to wear a bag in case hers breaks and you leave the 3rd bag outside the door as a courtesy to anyone who might walk in on you. YMMV.
Gualtier Malde
02-17-12, 05:52
After reading in the past about the sauna in the hutong off Andingmen Ave, I finally had an opportunity to give it a try.
It is actually easy to find if you know what you are looking for. As others have said, it is in the Cheniandian Hutong off Andingmen Ave, and is an easy walk from the Andingmen subway station on Line 2 (walk south from the subway, turn right into the Cheniandian Hutong, there is a sign for the hutong). The sauna is on the left side of the hutong, before the hotel, and it is not the massage place offset from the hutong opposite the hotel. If you are there you have gone too far.
The sauna is a glass front shop, and once you enter you step down into the lobby. You can see inside to the counter along the back wall from the hutong.
If you cannot speak Chinese, this is a difficult venue. They will be frustrated with you and may indicate that they can't help you. The confusion, I believe, comes from the fact that they offer several different services, including bath, gym, foot massage, and full massage. For the non-Chinese speaker, you can probably make it past this first barrier by saying "An mo" (massage). That seemed to be the magic word for me. Others may have better suggestions, but that's what worked for me.
I was not taken to the bath, I was taken directly upstairs (after they swapped my shoes for sandals). A girl came out (cute, busty, I think the one others have mentioned, and her name is Liu Yuan [don't quote me on the pinyin]). We negotiated the price (others have discussed the price here). I thought it was too high, but I wasn't in a negotiating mood, so I went with the quote (never a good idea, but like I said, not in the mood).
I was taken to a private room, containing a bed, a small half-bath (sink and toilet, no shower) , and a mahjong table (!). There was also a sign that read in Chinese and English: No Prostitution. No Gambling. No Drugs. I'm guessing that at least two of those banned activities regularly occur there, and perhaps the third as well, though I saw no evidence of drug use (other than perhaps blue pills.)
My provider offered no massage at all, instead went right to the main attraction. I was actually a little disappointed in that, though not too much, because the bed didn't seem that clean, and I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it. She was pretty good at what she did, though she wasn't big on kissing (dry kissing only).
After, I wanted to shower, but she indicated I needed to dress and go to the shower room downstairs. She led me out, right to the front desk, where they began to process me out of the place. But I indicated I wanted a shower. They added 30 kuai to my bill (!) and led me to the bath house portion of the facility. I was given a locker, a small wash cloth in a plastic cup (strange) , and a key. After a thorough wash, I was ready to leave, but. No towels! And no attendant! Eventually, I got the attention of one of the male masseurs, who called in an attendant, who then brought towels. This process took so long I basically air dried.
Overall: the girl was good. The service was ok but overpriced. The room was not very clean. The shower area was dreary and poorly staffed. The whole experience was mediocre at best, and terrible for the price.
I'm writing about it at this level of detail because frankly, if it was shut down, I really don't think it would be a loss. It is essentially an overpriced BBS with dirty showers.
GM.
The extra charge for the bath area is standard. Usually it's have the pricing for the massage confirmed beforehand and agree to the 28 up front for the bath area. For any sauna in China, look up pricing on the Chinese forums first and then walk in like you've been there before and say what you want the ___ kuai service. Like for this spa you can ask for the 500 kuai service, which they will know means FS, but you can confirm with hand signals if necessary.
How much did you end up paying?
There are a lot of us who enjoy this place. Don't think the detail needs to spelled out so clearly. I certainly would hesitate before writing out what could be the girl's real name in a public forum monitored by law enforcement. I know you're not the first one to do so. I'm just taking the opportunity to state my opinion.;)
After reading in the past about the sauna in the hutong off Andingmen Ave, I finally had an opportunity to give it a try.
It is actually easy to find if you know what you are looking for. As others have said, it is in the Cheniandian Hutong off Andingmen Ave, and is an easy walk from the Andingmen subway station on Line 2 (walk south from the subway, turn right into the Cheniandian Hutong, there is a sign for the hutong). The sauna is on the left side of the hutong, before the hotel, and it is not the massage place offset from the hutong opposite the hotel. If you are there you have gone too far.
The sauna is a glass front shop, and once you enter you step down into the lobby. You can see inside to the counter along the back wall from the hutong.
If you cannot speak Chinese, this is a difficult venue. They will be frustrated with you and may indicate that they can't help you. The confusion, I believe, comes from the fact that they offer several different services, including bath, gym, foot massage, and full massage. For the non-Chinese speaker, you can probably make it past this first barrier by saying "An mo" (massage). That seemed to be the magic word for me. Others may have better suggestions, but that's what worked for me.
I was not taken to the bath, I was taken directly upstairs (after they swapped my shoes for sandals). A girl came out (cute, busty, I think the one others have mentioned, and her name is Liu Yuan [don't quote me on the pinyin]). We negotiated the price (others have discussed the price here). I thought it was too high, but I wasn't in a negotiating mood, so I went with the quote (never a good idea, but like I said, not in the mood).
I was taken to a private room, containing a bed, a small half-bath (sink and toilet, no shower) , and a mahjong table (!). There was also a sign that read in Chinese and English: No Prostitution. No Gambling. No Drugs. I'm guessing that at least two of those banned activities regularly occur there, and perhaps the third as well, though I saw no evidence of drug use (other than perhaps blue pills.)
My provider offered no massage at all, instead went right to the main attraction. I was actually a little disappointed in that, though not too much, because the bed didn't seem that clean, and I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it. She was pretty good at what she did, though she wasn't big on kissing (dry kissing only).
After, I wanted to shower, but she indicated I needed to dress and go to the shower room downstairs. She led me out, right to the front desk, where they began to process me out of the place. But I indicated I wanted a shower. They added 30 kuai to my bill (!) and led me to the bath house portion of the facility. I was given a locker, a small wash cloth in a plastic cup (strange) , and a key. After a thorough wash, I was ready to leave, but. No towels! And no attendant! Eventually, I got the attention of one of the male masseurs, who called in an attendant, who then brought towels. This process took so long I basically air dried.
Overall: the girl was good. The service was ok but overpriced. The room was not very clean. The shower area was dreary and poorly staffed. The whole experience was mediocre at best, and terrible for the price.
I'm writing about it at this level of detail because frankly, if it was shut down, I really don't think it would be a loss. It is essentially an overpriced BBS with dirty showers.
GM.
Gualtier Malde
02-17-12, 14:10
The extra charge for the bath area is standard. Usually it's have the pricing for the massage confirmed beforehand and agree to the 28 up front for the bath area. For any sauna in China, look up pricing on the Chinese forums first and then walk in like you've been there before and say what you want the ___ kuai service. Like for this spa you can ask for the 500 kuai service, which they will know means FS, but you can confirm with hand signals if necessary.
How much did you end up paying?
There are a lot of us who enjoy this place. Don't think the detail needs to spelled out so clearly. I certainly would hesitate before writing out what could be the girl's real name in a public forum monitored by law enforcement. I know you're not the first one to do so. I'm just taking the opportunity to state my opinion.Actually Kajos I've been to many saunas in China, both in Shanghai and Beijing. That was the first time I've ever been charged ala carte. And it is the first time I wasn't taken to the showers first. And it is the first sauna I've been to without attendants in the dressing room. I can say with all confidence that as saunas in China go, it is the worst. That said, or maybe because of that, I have to consider it in it's own class. A bath house, not a sauna.
I am usually overly discreet and have caught flack for protecting my favorite places in reviews. I seriously doubt this place will be shut down because of my post. I doubt there is a cop in BJ with the interest in walking in the door of this dump. That's why I went against my usual caution.
Sorry to be blunt, I'm sure you enjoy it and I don't mean to rain on your parade. It's just not my cup of tea, and given the dives I frequent here, that is saying something!
600 was asked and paid, by the way. Plus 30 for the bath. I can do better (minus the bath) at any of the village MPs, (usually 200-300 max for FS). Nice to know they will go for 500. Sounds a bit better, and like I said, I wasn't in a negotiating mood.
GM.
Well, this is my 3rd visit to Grand Dynasty hotel KTV. I called them up for my regular but she was out today. (I guess she didn't come back from home yet)
KTV located on 3rd floow and mamasan called Yang Mei she is quite cute mid 30 ages.
Showed me about 10 girls as a line up, I chose wang mi mi who came from Chongching.
She is 25 years old and quite GFE and wild.
Usual KTV scene then take her to my room for 1, 000 RMB. She came to my room then did GFE such as massage,
Licking, cudlling, DATY, CG, Doggy, etc.
She is quite wild girl while we did sex. Definately repeat again. She will be my 2nd regular.
Well I cannot post their name card due to the restriction.
I forgot to attach a picture. Here it is.
Well, this is my 3rd visit to Grand Dynasty hotel KTV. I called them up for my regular but she was out today. (I guess she didn't come back from home yet)
KTV located on 3rd floow and mamasan called Yang Mei she is quite cute mid 30 ages.
Showed me about 10 girls as a line up, I chose wang mi mi who came from Chongching.
She is 25 years old and quite GFE and wild.
Usual KTV scene then take her to my room for 1, 000 RMB. She came to my room then did GFE such as massage,
Licking, cudlling, DATY, CG, Doggy, etc.
She is quite wild girl while we did sex. Definately repeat again. She will be my 2nd regular.
Well I cannot post their name card due to the restriction.
JohnnyVegas
02-18-12, 06:11
Visted this site for a few days. Check out the personals. Really great pics of some young, cute girls who offer visits for 300. Some 200. I sent an email to one who also offered a tour guide service, which was exactly what I needed for my first night in PEK. She advertised for 300 oil massage but in my email I said I wanted to go for some dinner first. I called when I landed, then when I got to my hotel. She had to call back to the room to confirm. That all worked out and she showed up in the lobby 30 mins later. I went down to meet her. Older than the picture. Surrprise, surprise, but what the heck. Went to a great restaurant in Sanlitun, next to YoYo Hotel. Reasonable prices. Then she said let's go back to the room. She told me to get naked and lay on the bed. She took out her oil and gave a really good massage. I put my hand up her skirt. Nice tight arse. Then she said turnover. Played a little bit. I put my hand down her blouse. Small chest but nice. Then she asked what else did I want. I said I want a lot more, but how much? Now comes the funny part. Her prices. 1000 for HJ. 2000 for BBBJ. 3000 for FS, and 4000 for everything. I just laughed and told her she was ridiculous. She lowered everything by 200. 500 and I still told her she was crazy. She said "how much you pay". I told her that it should be included with the 300. She said,"no. That's just for oil massage". I said OK. Here's your 300. That was nice and all I wanted. Sent her on her way!
Gualtier Malde
02-18-12, 10:15
Lesson number 1 in China. Always negotiate the prices up front.
But you did ok with sticking to your guns and saying no to an unacceptable price.
300 was below the going rate though. You'd have never gotten her to that. Nice try.
GM.
Visted this site for a few days. Check out the personals. Really great pics of some young, cute girls who offer visits for 300. Some 200. I sent an email to one who also offered a tour guide service, which was exactly what I needed for my first night in PEK. She advertised for 300 oil massage but in my email I said I wanted to go for some dinner first. I called when I landed, then when I got to my hotel. She had to call back to the room to confirm. That all worked out and she showed up in the lobby 30 mins later. I went down to meet her. Older than the picture. Surrprise, surprise, but what the heck. Went to a great restaurant in Sanlitun, next to YoYo Hotel. Reasonable prices. Then she said let's go back to the room. She told me to get naked and lay on the bed. She took out her oil and gave a really good massage. I put my hand up her skirt. Nice tight arse. Then she said turnover. Played a little bit. I put my hand down her blouse. Small chest but nice. Then she asked what else did I want. I said I want a lot more, but how much? Now comes the funny part. Her prices. 1000 for HJ. 2000 for BBBJ. 3000 for FS, and 4000 for everything. I just laughed and told her she was ridiculous. She lowered everything by 200. 500 and I still told her she was crazy. She said "how much you pay". I told her that it should be included with the 300. She said,"no. That's just for oil massage". I said OK. Here's your 300. That was nice and all I wanted. Sent her on her way!
Greetings all. Used to post here all the time, but it's been forever and a day. Nice to see a solid group of contributors but I don't' recognize very many of the names from when I used to live in BJ.
Flew in from the US (after a 2 day stop in Shanghai) 10 days ago, and was eager to see what's changed and what's stayed the same. Was looking forward to going to Maggies and reflecting on how much money I had pissed away in there. As luck would have it, on the flight from SH I say next to a beautiful 30 year old local business woman flying home, and we hit it off beautifully, so the whole 4 days in town I was with her. Like a girlfriend without the hassles. I spent a lot of money, but it was on great food and great wine.
I haven't lived in China for a few years now, but my biggest takeaway was that I miss the place a lot more than I was willing to admit. Even with all the hassles; etc. It gets in your blood; I'm sure many of you know what I mean.
Couple questions. What is the big crackdown that gets talked about? Different than the periodic regular ones? And, my next trip will be in 2 or 3 months. Is it even worth staying up late to go to maggies anymore?
Member #4144
02-18-12, 22:45
Greetings all. Used to post here all the time, but it's been forever and a day. Nice to see a solid group of contributors but I don't' recognize very many of the names from when I used to live in BJ.
Flew in from the US (after a 2 day stop in Shanghai) 10 days ago, and was eager to see what's changed and what's stayed the same. Was looking forward to going to Maggies and reflecting on how much money I had pissed away in there. As luck would have it, on the flight from SH I say next to a beautiful 30 year old local business woman flying home, and we hit it off beautifully, so the whole 4 days in town I was with her. Like a girlfriend without the hassles. I spent a lot of money, but it was on great food and great wine.
I haven't lived in China for a few years now, but my biggest takeaway was that I miss the place a lot more than I was willing to admit. Even with all the hassles; etc. It gets in your blood; I'm sure many of you know what I mean.
Couple questions. What is the big crackdown that gets talked about? Different than the periodic regular ones? And, my next trip will be in 2 or 3 months. Is it even worth staying up late to go to maggies anymore?From what LuluChina just reported about that KTV in ChaoYang area, I would say no need to wait till so late for Maggies, hahaha.
I got to check out that KTV myself next time I come into town, just amazingly cheap.
Fillmore
Gualtier Malde
02-21-12, 05:19
There is a local village MP, a larger one as villages go (two floors) near a couple of expat compounds. It does not appear designed to cater to foreigners, as some near compounds are (and those never seem to have special services).
I have now visited this one twice. Each room has a large poster on the wall depicting a sexy couples in intimate embraces, some partially nude. The first time I visited I had an old hag of a masseuse, but this was during CNY when I think all the regular ones were on holiday. The second time I had a pretty, younger masseuse, dressed sexy (but didn't cross the line to slutty).
Both times there was no hint of anything but a regular massage available. I tried to make a slightly suggestive touch (touching her thigh, but not high enough to get slapped) , but did not come right out and ask for special services. And yet, given the decor, I can't help but believe something more intimate is available.
They also have different sized rooms. Some rooms have multiple beds, others just one. I have a feeling that one needs to be in a single room to receive special services. But this is the first place I've been where not even a hint of something more was made during either session. Just these tempting posters.
So, seeking group wisdom here: do I come right out and ask next time, or perhaps more subtly, just ask for the single room and see if the masseuse is more responsive in private? I'm leaning toward the latter. On the other hand, maybe putting sexy posters in legit massage parlors is the cool thing to do here and I'm wasting my time. But that would surprise me.
GM.
Member #4683
02-21-12, 07:41
There is a local village MP, a larger one as villages go (two floors) near a couple of expat compounds. It does not appear designed to cater to foreigners, as some near compounds are (and those never seem to have special services).
I have now visited this one twice. Each room has a large poster on the wall depicting a sexy couples in intimate embraces, some partially nude. The first time I visited I had an old hag of a masseuse, but this was during CNY when I think all the regular ones were on holiday. The second time I had a pretty, younger masseuse, dressed sexy (but didn't cross the line to slutty).
Both times there was no hint of anything but a regular massage available. I tried to make a slightly suggestive touch (touching her thigh, but not high enough to get slapped) , but did not come right out and ask for special services. And yet, given the decor, I can't help but believe something more intimate is available.
They also have different sized rooms. Some rooms have multiple beds, others just one. I have a feeling that one needs to be in a single room to receive special services. But this is the first place I've been where not even a hint of something more was made during either session. Just these tempting posters.
So, seeking group wisdom here: do I come right out and ask next time, or perhaps more subtly, just ask for the single room and see if the masseuse is more responsive in private? I'm leaning toward the latter. On the other hand, maybe putting sexy posters in legit massage parlors is the cool thing to do here and I'm wasting my time. But that would surprise me.
GM.Hi GM,
Sounds interesting. Where is it?
My point of view:
Make them know, discretely, that you like their poster.
Looking for HJ:
When she "by accident" touches your playstation during massage, tell her the magic word "[sufu]"
If response still unclear, ask if she likes to do didi an mo.
Still unclear and you really want her to finish you off, say [the fei ji]
FS:
Point at the poster and look the fine female deep in her eyes and ask "you meiyou"
If response still unclear, ask if they have xiao jie.
For me the old two hands sign ruins the excitement and challenge. Much to simple and easy.
The chase is almost as fun as the act. Definetely takes longer time.
JohnnyVegas
02-21-12, 08:09
Went there late. The girls mostly arrive after 11:00 pm. Had a great band playing. Got a drink and watched the girls. One came over and started chatting. Za. Really pretty with a fun personality. I bought her a coke and we continued to talk for 45 minutes getting to know each other. Mongolian of course. Neat accent. Mixture of Russian and european english. I asked her now much. 1500. I said WOW. Expensive. She said all girls ask the same. I said. No. Too much. She said she really liked me so how about 1000. I said OK. Took her back to my hotel. Nice black hair, GREAT boobs. Her spot was trimmed but not shaven much. Nice BBBJ and great overall.
Nice hook up!
Member #4683
02-21-12, 09:16
Visted this site for a few days. Check out the personals. Really great pics of some young, cute girls who offer visits for 300. Some 200. I sent an email to one who also offered a tour guide service, which was exactly what I needed for my first night in PEK. She advertised for 300 oil massage but in my email I said I wanted to go for some dinner first. I called when I landed, then when I got to my hotel. She had to call back to the room to confirm. That all worked out and she showed up in the lobby 30 mins later. I went down to meet her. Older than the picture. Surrprise, surprise, but what the heck. Went to a great restaurant in Sanlitun, next to YoYo Hotel. Reasonable prices. Then she said let's go back to the room. She told me to get naked and lay on the bed. She took out her oil and gave a really good massage. I put my hand up her skirt. Nice tight arse. Then she said turnover. Played a little bit. I put my hand down her blouse. Small chest but nice. Then she asked what else did I want. I said I want a lot more, but how much? Now comes the funny part. Her prices. 1000 for HJ. 2000 for BBBJ. 3000 for FS, and 4000 for everything. I just laughed and told her she was ridiculous. She lowered everything by 200. 500 and I still told her she was crazy. She said "how much you pay". I told her that it should be included with the 300. She said,"no. That's just for oil massage". I said OK. Here's your 300. That was nice and all I wanted. Sent her on her way!Where did you search "personals"?
Typical experience and agree with GM that it was great you could send her away.
Pretty sure that even though you got her down to a reasonable she would still be an annoying fuck.
It is fantastic not to be too horney and still be able to think with the big head!
Loveasiangirls
02-21-12, 09:24
Interesting article here: http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/justice-served-china-s-largest-call-girl-ring-busted-in.html
One interesting fact, the price would depend on the hotel that you are calling from.
Easily Pleased
02-21-12, 09:55
Finally decided to post.
Been on here for a few years and believe me this spectacular forum has given me GREAT pleasure in MANY countries over the years. I'm lovin' Beijing at the moment aswell. I'm honestly not the most regular 'visitor' to WG's in the world but Jesus, do I like to treat myself? I am the 'easily-pleased' type and I think I am falling in love with these young Chinese cuties. Never realised how beautiful they were until I arrived. I'll be staying here for a long while. Definitely.
Anyway, this is my first post and hopefully the first of many.
I was strolling near Huilongguan and Huoying and I couldn't believe me eyes. I reckon I came across more than 40 MP's (maybe exagerated but I WAS excited) on ONE street alone. You know this area? A stunner (maybe a 7-8 in your eyes, aged 24) caught my eye. I dived in and it was 168rmb. 45mins and HE. Thank god for universal hand signals. My Chinese is not good but enough to have a good laugh with them. Also, as I am a huge bums fan, she gave me the sight of her gorgeous small, round, naked arse. Playing with this above my face in a 69 position and a slow oily HE= Me a HAPPY man. I'll be repeating visits here frequently I think!
Summary: I am not really good at delivering the posts but if I can help anyone in any way, mei wen ti.
So, seeking group wisdom here: do I come right out and ask next time, or perhaps more subtly, just ask for the single room and see if the masseuse is more responsive in private? I'm leaning toward the latter. On the other hand, maybe putting sexy posters in legit massage parlors is the cool thing to do here and I'm wasting my time. But that would surprise me.
GM.GM, you can consider asking quietly about 'te shu an mo' or special service / massage if you're alone with the massuse regardless of the room you're in. Usually, she may respond in the negative at first but once she senses the coast is clear, such as no more noises / chatter from the surrounding rooms, she may start giving you the signal (I. E. Rubbing near certain private parts more intimately). Anyhow, you're get a polite reply back in any case (if you're not pushing it) & even get a HJ / HE.
Sai
Gualtier Malde
02-22-12, 05:48
Sounds interesting. Where is it?It is in a little Cun near Shunyi, off Jing Mi Road.
My point of view:
Make them know, discretely, that you like their poster.That's the direction I was going. The other MPs in the area have been less subtle. Either with "accidental" suggestive touch, or a look and a smile. The usual drill. This is the only one I've been to that has highly visual suggestions with absolutely nothing from the masseuse, even when I made subtle advances (a touch, or a suggestive look and smile at the poster).
When she "by accident" touches your playstation during massage, tell her the magic word "[sufu]"That's the thing: neither masseuse had any accidents. They were as careful as any legit massage place. That's what makes it an enigma to me.
If response still unclear, ask if she likes to do didi an mo.
Still unclear and you really want her to finish you off, say [the fei ji]Ha, coming right out and asking for a dick massage or handjob seems a bit rude! I think I prefer quan tao an mo, or as Sai suggests, te shu an mo.
FS:
Point at the poster and look the fine female deep in her eyes and ask "you meiyou"
If response still unclear, ask if they have xiao jie.I like the poster suggestion, I was thinking that too. But coming right out and asking if they have hookers? That seems, um, well, hmmm, has it worked for you?
For me the old two hands sign ruins the excitement and challenge. Much to simple and easy.
The chase is almost as fun as the act. Definetely takes longer time.Totally agree. Most of the village MPs I frequent took a couple of visits to establish trust and find a good masseuse. I'll probably give up on this one after one more try, because it's taking longer than usual to even get a hint, and besides, they haven't proven to have a good lineup anyway. So far I've only seen one that I'd consider attractive enough to be worth the effort.
GM.
Dutchboy7908
02-22-12, 08:37
Hi guys
Your typical expat here having fun on the side. Don't feel comfortable registering at a hotel in Beijing while I live here. I'm sure once its in the system it stays in the system and that's something you don't always want. Did anyone find a proper solution to it? I. E. A hotel which doesn't require registration for short time?
Thanks a million!
There is a local village MP, a larger one as villages go (two floors) near a couple of expat compounds. It does not appear designed to cater to foreigners, as some near compounds are (and those never seem to have special services).
I have now visited this one twice. Each room has a large poster on the wall depicting a sexy couples in intimate embraces, some partially nude. The first time I visited I had an old hag of a masseuse, but this was during CNY when I think all the regular ones were on holiday. The second time I had a pretty, younger masseuse, dressed sexy (but didn't cross the line to slutty).
Both times there was no hint of anything but a regular massage available. I tried to make a slightly suggestive touch (touching her thigh, but not high enough to get slapped) , but did not come right out and ask for special services. And yet, given the decor, I can't help but believe something more intimate is available.
They also have different sized rooms. Some rooms have multiple beds, others just one. I have a feeling that one needs to be in a single room to receive special services. But this is the first place I've been where not even a hint of something more was made during either session. Just these tempting posters.
So, seeking group wisdom here: do I come right out and ask next time, or perhaps more subtly, just ask for the single room and see if the masseuse is more responsive in private? I'm leaning toward the latter. On the other hand, maybe putting sexy posters in legit massage parlors is the cool thing to do here and I'm wasting my time. But that would surprise me.
GM.I go to a similar place next door to the compound where I live but no sexy posters on the wall.
Never had a hint of anything other than a legit massage but here the massage is well worth the 90yuan for 2 hours (resident special being next door).
There are other places nearby for 'special' services so a massage and then off to the other places for a finishing round.
Teltel
Gualtier Malde
02-23-12, 04:01
Hi guys
Your typical expat here having fun on the side. Don't feel comfortable registering at a hotel in Beijing while I live here. I'm sure once its in the system it stays in the system and that's something you don't always want. Did anyone find a proper solution to it? I. E. A hotel which doesn't require registration for short time?
Thanks a million!I'm in the same boat as you. I do it all the time and don't give it a second thought. Never had a problem with it. Never been contacted by anyone. I wouldn't worry about it unless you have "JOURNALIST" stamped in your passport, or you have a diplomatic passport. For the rest of us, we're just another wanker needing a place to sleep from The Man's perspective, so they don't give a sh*t.
However, that said, I have asked my lady friend to book the room on occasion. Some local hotels don't register foreigners, or otherwise don't deal with foreign speakers very well. I've had both pros and freebies do this for me. Of course I cover the cost, but they do the check in and check out, then text me the room number. I have had a couple of freebies prefer that I do the booking, and in those cases we end up in more expensive hotels that cater to foreigners.
A related note: HomeInn offers 4 hour rates (100RMB for 4 hours, plus a 100RMB key deposit returned on checkout). The rooms are tiny, but its a great value. Not all HomeInn locations work with foreigners though, so you should research your location before assuming you can get a room. They are all over Beijing, and most are within walking distance of a subway stop.
If you are really, really paranoid, have the girl check in, and wear a hat and sunglasses until you are inside the room (there are cameras everywhere). (I'm not that paranoid.)
Oh, and to directly answer your question, I have never heard of a hotel in Beijing that will let you have a room without showing your passport or ID. I seriously doubt you would find one, and I'd be more paranoid staying in such a place than a legitimate hotel, because surely they would not last long without being raided. The police take civil surveillance very, very seriously.
GM.
Member #4683
02-23-12, 05:38
Interesting issue Gualtier and the Dutch man;
No doubt that a hotel which does not require I'd, would be a hotel not to go to.
The different places I have lived in China, it has always been a whole lot easier to visit brothels rather than to get the girls to your home. In Beijing it seems to be the other way around.
In the area I live it is very difficult to find brothels so I am constantly on the search. And are getting a lot of massage, mostly only massage (GM: after establishing trust, the different phrases has worked well for me. OK. Guangzhou spolied me too much but at other places and a few in Beijing it has worked well. I am now learning to say te shu an mo and quan tao an mo)
Saw an ad for "massagebeijingveteran" who offers a room in Guomao but haven't tried yet. Anyone knows about this provider?
Shower palaces would be the way to go but none around here so I am not that familiar with the shower palaces in Beijing. Any input?
The Home Inn 4 hour deal seems workable. Which raises a good question: GM where do you find the freebies?
If you register you have to show your passport. If she registers and you follow her you don't have to show I'd. I have found no exceptions to that rule. Some hotels will not take laowei. Same as some Chinese girls.
Your typical expat here having fun on the side. Don't feel comfortable registering at a hotel in Beijing while I live here. I'm sure once its in the system it stays in the system and that's something you don't always want. Did anyone find a proper solution to it? I. E. A hotel which doesn't require registration for short time?
Thanks a million![/QUOTE]
Shanghai Guide
02-23-12, 11:57
Never had a problem with it.I am not 100% sure about the details of the current practices, but as I know you should also be carefull with another point:
In China as a foreigner all the time you have to be registered with your residence at the local police station. This will happen, when you register at the hotel reception. After you checked out, you will be registered "nowhere". Normally if you arrive in China and start to stay in your appartment, you have latest 10 or 14 days to go to the local police station and register your stay there (most time your guide, company or Chinese assistant will do this for you). I think it is called "get your yellow paper", even the paper is red. If you delay, it will not be a problem when you leave China next, because you don`t need this yellow paper at the airport, but if you want to extend your visa (or you get in legal trouble) , the administrative fines for not to be registered for longer than (I think) 10 days is not cheap, can be up to some thousand US Dollar and also will cause a lot of problems. I had this one time. And it was really not funny! Wanted to extend a Visa in Shanghai and they found out I forgot to register when I arrived 4 weeks ago.
I am not sure about the details, but as far as I know every time you stay in a hotel, your resident registration will be canceld, so you have to re-register again after the hotel stay for your appartment, otherwise you violate the reporting requirement. Same when you go to some business travel and stay in a hotel in another city, but I guess for business travels most time the Chinese stuff in the company will do this, so you will not even notice. Perhaps anyone here who is more familiar with the current practices can tell us, if a hotel registration will make it necessary to renew your "yellow paper".
Gualtier Malde
02-23-12, 17:43
I am not 100% sure about the details of the current practices, but as I know you should also be carefull with another point:
In China as a foreigner all the time you have to be registered with your residence at the local police station. This will happen, when you register at the hotel reception. After you checked out, you will be registered "nowhere". Normally if you arrive in China and start to stay in your appartment, you have latest 10 or 14 days to go to the local police station and register your stay there (most time your guide, company or Chinese assistant will do this for you). I think it is called "get your yellow paper", even the paper is red. If you delay, it will not be a problem when you leave China next, because you don`t need this yellow paper at the airport, but if you want to extend your visa (or you get in legal trouble) , the administrative fines for not to be registered for longer than (I think) 10 days is not cheap, can be up to some thousand US Dollar and also will cause a lot of problems. I had this one time. And it was really not funny! Wanted to extend a Visa in Shanghai and they found out I forgot to register when I arrived 4 weeks ago.
I am not sure about the details, but as far as I know every time you stay in a hotel, your resident registration will be canceld, so you have to re-register again after the hotel stay for your appartment, otherwise you violate the reporting requirement. Same when you go to some business travel and stay in a hotel in another city, but I guess for business travels most time the Chinese stuff in the company will do this, so you will not even notice. Perhaps anyone here who is more familiar with the current practices can tell us, if a hotel registration will make it necessary to renew your "yellow paper".This has not been my experience. I've never re-registered my residence after a hotel stay, for whatever reason.
However, I would be interested to hear if others have a contrary opinion.
GM.
Gualtier Malde
02-23-12, 17:49
Which raises a good question: GM where do you find the freebies?I've written about this before. The question should be, where can you NOT find freebies?
Badoo. Com is a good place to meet freebies online. Adult Friend Finder (some access the same site via FacebookOfSex) is another place you can try, but it costs to join that one.
But just living life in Beijing will expose you to women who want to play. Just be open to it.
GM.
I am not 100% sure about the details of the current practices, but as I know you should also be carefull with another point:
I am not sure about the details, but as far as I know every time you stay in a hotel, your resident registration will be canceld, so you have to re-register again after the hotel stay for your appartment, otherwise you violate the reporting requirement. Same when you go to some business travel and stay in a hotel in another city, but I guess for business travels most time the Chinese stuff in the company will do this, so you will not even notice. Perhaps anyone here who is more familiar with the current practices can tell us, if a hotel registration will make it necessary to renew your "yellow paper".This is not the case. I do extensive travel for business within China and have never had a problem with my "local" registration. I have also used local hotels and never had a problem with the renewal of my registration when I get a new visa.
ShangHangin
02-24-12, 03:16
This has not been my experience. I've never re-registered my residence after a hotel stay, for whatever reason.
However, I would be interested to hear if others have a contrary opinion.
GM.My experience in the same. In fact, my residence registration is two years old and I have renewed my residence visa with no problems.
SH
Loveasiangirls
02-24-12, 03:27
I am not 100% sure about the details of the current practices, but as I know you should also be carefull with another point:
In China as a foreigner all the time you have to be registered with your residence at the local police station. This will happen, when you register at the hotel reception. After you checked out, you will be registered "nowhere". Normally if you arrive in China and start to stay in your appartment, you have latest 10 or 14 days to go to the local police station and register your stay there (most time your guide, company or Chinese assistant will do this for you). I think it is called "get your yellow paper", even the paper is red. If you delay, it will not be a problem when you leave China next, because you don`t need this yellow paper at the airport, but if you want to extend your visa (or you get in legal trouble) , the administrative fines for not to be registered for longer than (I think) 10 days is not cheap, can be up to some thousand US Dollar and also will cause a lot of problems. I had this one time. And it was really not funny! Wanted to extend a Visa in Shanghai and they found out I forgot to register when I arrived 4 weeks ago.
I am not sure about the details, but as far as I know every time you stay in a hotel, your resident registration will be canceld, so you have to re-register again after the hotel stay for your appartment, otherwise you violate the reporting requirement. Same when you go to some business travel and stay in a hotel in another city, but I guess for business travels most time the Chinese stuff in the company will do this, so you will not even notice. Perhaps anyone here who is more familiar with the current practices can tell us, if a hotel registration will make it necessary to renew your "yellow paper".This is incorrect. I have checked this with the police station before. You only need to re-register with the police station if you left the country prior to the expiry of your registration. You can travel all you want in China and stay in hotels, you registration remains valid.
In addition, you do not have 10-14 days to register but 24 hours (72 hours in rural areas). It says so clearly on the back of the yellow landing card that you fill when you enter the country.
Hi,
Does anyone know of some good websites for the Beijing area? Below websites are mainly for south of China.
I plan to do some research before going to Beijing next month and any help would be greatly appreciated.
www.casualencounterschina.com
www.fun161.com
www.u161.com
I have attached a few pics of girls I have met on these sites.
Thanks for your help.
Fifty Shades
02-24-12, 13:06
Interesting article here:
http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/justice-served-china-s-largest-call-girl-ring-busted-in.html
One interesting fact, the price would depend on the hotel that you are calling from.Does anyone know if this was any one of the outcall services that have been talked about in the forum? When something like this happens, you have to wonder if it means a change in LE policy, or if it might represent the hidden influence of a competitor. In either case, the effect could be chilling.
JohnnyVegas
02-24-12, 15:30
Where did you search "personals"?
Typical experience and agree with GM that it was great you could send her away.
Pretty sure that even though you got her down to a reasonable she would still be an annoying fuck.
It is fantastic not to be too horney and still be able to think with the big head!It was Locanto "personal ads"
Gualtier Malde
02-26-12, 04:57
In a discussion with JohnnyVegas, Munk69 said:
Pretty sure that even though you got her down to a reasonable she would still be an annoying fuck.Actually, I would generally disagree with this statement. It is one of the interesting aspects of the culture here that with winning the negotiation you tend to win the respect of the lady. In my experience, if you hold your ground and insist on the price that you both know is fair, she will provide good, perhaps even great service.
But don't insult her by offering her a price that you both know is not fair. Then she'll really get pissed and the negotiation will be harder. State the price you think is fair and stick with it. Kick her out if she doesn't accept. Don't low ball her, hoping to meet in the middle. That's not the way it's done here.
If she wins the negotiation, she now knows that not only can she get more from you than she deserves, she can cut corners on the service she delivers. So, most likely if you give in to a higher price, you will also get poorer service. She won't have any sympathy for you. To put it plainly, in her eyes, you are now a loser.
It may seem harsh, or even illogical. All I can say is, welcome to China!
GM.
Dutchboy7908
02-26-12, 07:18
Thanks for all your insights! Guess I'll just keep registering than. But if someone knows something or has a room available please let me know!
I'm in the same boat as you. I do it all the time and don't give it a second thought. Never had a problem with it. Never been contacted by anyone. I wouldn't worry about it unless you have "JOURNALIST" stamped in your passport, or you have a diplomatic passport. For the rest of us, we're just another wanker needing a place to sleep from The Man's perspective, so they don't give a sh*t.
However, that said, I have asked my lady friend to book the room on occasion. Some local hotels don't register foreigners, or otherwise don't deal with foreign speakers very well. I've had both pros and freebies do this for me. Of course I cover the cost, but they do the check in and check out, then text me the room number. I have had a couple of freebies prefer that I do the booking, and in those cases we end up in more expensive hotels that cater to foreigners.
A related note: HomeInn offers 4 hour rates (100RMB for 4 hours, plus a 100RMB key deposit returned on checkout). The rooms are tiny, but its a great value. Not all HomeInn locations work with foreigners though, so you should research your location before assuming you can get a room. They are all over Beijing, and most are within walking distance of a subway stop.
If you are really, really paranoid, have the girl check in, and wear a hat and sunglasses until you are inside the room (there are cameras everywhere). (I'm not that paranoid.)
Oh, and to directly answer your question, I have never heard of a hotel in Beijing that will let you have a room without showing your passport or I'd. I seriously doubt you would find one, and I'd be more paranoid staying in such a place than a legitimate hotel, because surely they would not last long without being raided. The police take civil surveillance very, very seriously.
GM.
SteelBaton
02-27-12, 05:19
Does anyone know if this was any one of the outcall services that have been talked about in the forum? When something like this happens, you have to wonder if it means a change in LE policy, or if it might represent the hidden influence of a competitor. In either case, the effect could be chilling.No, this would not have been one of the providers discussed on the forum. This sounds like a much larger and more organised ring. I have never see one of these call-girl cards with phone numbers on them. I suspect they are targeting the local mongers. Do hope that it is not chilling on the providers we know.
SteelBaton
02-27-12, 05:21
Hi,
Does anyone know of some good websites for the Beijing area? Below websites are mainly for south of China.
I plan to do some research before going to Beijing next month and any help would be greatly appreciated.
www.casualencounterschina.com
www.fun161.com
www.u161.com
I have attached a few pics of girls I have met on these sites.
Thanks for your help.Might be able to help you, but would need to PM you the details. Let me know when you have purchased an upgrade or have sufficient posts. (The cost of the upgrade is a fraction of a normal evening with a girl. So IHO worth the $)
SteelBaton
02-27-12, 05:26
I will be in Beijing, Guangzhou, Changdu in May. Would love to get numbers or addresses of any places offer FS. I can speak some of the Common Language but I am white. Can you PM me.
ThanksTony, you cannot be PM'ed without an upgrade or a lot more reporting. Please contribute to the forum in someway before asking us to solve your punting needs.
Gualtier Malde
02-27-12, 05:38
No, this would not have been one of the providers discussed on the forum. This sounds like a much larger and more organised ring. I have never see one of these call-girl cards with phone numbers on them. I suspect they are targeting the local mongers. Do hope that it is not chilling on the providers we know.I've seen these cards before, both in Shanghai (they tried to hand them to me on the street) and I did get one under a hotel room door in Beijing and also once recently in Shanghai. I never even considered calling the number, and never would.
Guess I won't see them again! I say good riddance to that kind of marketing anyway.
GM.
SteelBaton
02-27-12, 06:17
I've seen these cards before, both in Shanghai (they tried to hand them to me on the street) and I did get one under a hotel room door in Beijing and also once recently in Shanghai. I never even considered calling the number, and never would.
Guess I won't see them again! I say good riddance to that kind of marketing anyway.
GM.What class of hotel were you staying in? Hard to imagine them letting that happen at a 4 or 5 star. Imagine all the elderly American tourists and what they would say! I bet a few of the dirty old guys still have 'them in their wallets. Probably be me some day.
Gualtier Malde
02-27-12, 07:28
What class of hotel were you staying in? Hard to imagine them letting that happen at a 4 or 5 star. Imagine all the elderly American tourists and what they would say! I bet a few of the dirty old guys still have 'them in their wallets. Probably be me some day.Both four star hotels. A notch down from the Grand Hyatt. Could be that they paid off a hotel staffer to do the distribution for them. Which might make sense, because the staffer may have access to the guest list and know which rooms have just one man staying in them.
GM.
FernandoAlonso
02-27-12, 07:38
Both four star hotels. A notch down from the Grand Hyatt. Could be that they paid off a hotel staffer to do the distribution for them. Which might make sense, because the staffer may have access to the guest list and know which rooms have just one man staying in them.
GM.Guys,
These cards have been there forever but just getting busted as rightfully it is an annoyance. They get distributed everywhere, also in Condos but lesser in Five star hotels. You can find them also lying on the streets. If you speak Chinese much cheaper than the Angels and co advertising here but same lousy service level (and the same girls) unless you click with the ladies.
FA
El Frances
02-27-12, 15:33
Hi,
Does anyone know of some good websites for the Beijing area? Below websites are mainly for south of China.
I plan to do some research before going to Beijing next month and any help would be greatly appreciated.
www.casualencounterschina.com
www.fun161.com
www.u161.com
I have attached a few pics of girls I have met on these sites.
Thanks for your help.There have been several rather reliable providers with fixed price policy commented in this thread:maria, lili, etc. Why loose your time with unproven websites that will probably try to scam you. About pics, in China there are all fakes for all providers. Don't loose time choosing a provider or e girl after the pics, you will never get the same girl as on the photo.
Tony Knight
02-28-12, 05:59
Tony, you cannot be PM'ed without an upgrade or a lot more reporting. Please contribute to the forum in someway before asking us to solve your punting needs.Sorry, it was my fist time on the site and did not know there was a charge. Use to the domestic site where they do not charge. I plan to upgrade next month.
May will be my first trip to the Far East since Uncle Sam gave me an almost one way ticket back in the 70's.
All,
Just thought I'd mention the Grand Mercure Beijing Central hotel where I stayed for 6 days. It's listed as a 4-star but wanted to point out that that my room had a few flaws, such as a filthy carpet, a window that would not latch and a heating system that was sub-par. The carpet was so dirty that my bare feet turned black on the bottom within an hour of walking around the room. The front desk staff spoke very limited English, so it was tough to converse.
Possibly more importantly, I visited the hotel massage parlor twice. Both times the girls hustled me for overpriced HJs, didn't want to remove their tops, etc. Not sure if I would have fared better (offered BJ or FS) if the girls had come to my hotel room, but my GF was around so I could not. All in all, I would not recommend that hotel.
My fellow China lovers,
Soon I will be travelling to Beijing for the first time. I have been doing a lot of researches on this website and on the internet in the last few days. I think I've been reading page 250 up to the current page. Awesome! Some of you have done a great job and make it much easier for all beginners like me! Thanks for that! I hope to contribute with my own experiences in the near future. However, I was wondering: In my country, The Netherlands, the police is doing a lot of phone tapping. Even for the smallest crime (not for soft drugs or prostitution of course, that's all legal) like robbery or stealing, the police is allowed to monitor phone calls (tapping) and read sms text remotely on their systems. How is that in China? Can the Chinese police monitor your sms if you send text (your name + hotelroom) to a outcall service? I just wonder and perhaps a little bit paranoia.
Steve
My fellow China lovers,
Soon I will be travelling to Beijing for the first time. I have been doing a lot of researches on this website and on the internet in the last few days. I think I've been reading page 250 up to the current page. Awesome! Some of you have done a great job and make it much easier for all beginners like me! Thanks for that! I hope to contribute with my own experiences in the near future. However, I was wondering: In my country, The Netherlands, the police is doing a lot of phone tapping. Even for the smallest crime (not for soft drugs or prostitution of course, that's all legal) like robbery or stealing, the police is allowed to monitor phone calls (tapping) and read sms text remotely on their systems. How is that in China? Can the Chinese police monitor your sms if you send text (your name + hotelroom) to a outcall service? I just wonder and perhaps a little bit paranoia.
Stevedon't think too much on your head mate!
Thousands of foreigners are up are up and down everyday in beijing.
Mostly police will be polite as their is big language barrier. They have enough cases of locals to deal with.
One more last thing prostitution is almost legal here.
Only thing you have take care is find a girl friendly hotel.
Saying this because of my few years resedential experiance in beijing!
Gualtier Malde
03-01-12, 08:53
My fellow China lovers,
Soon I will be travelling to Beijing for the first time. I have been doing a lot of researches on this website and on the internet in the last few days. I think I've been reading page 250 up to the current page. Awesome! Some of you have done a great job and make it much easier for all beginners like me! Thanks for that! I hope to contribute with my own experiences in the near future. However, I was wondering: In my country, The Netherlands, the police is doing a lot of phone tapping. Even for the smallest crime (not for soft drugs or prostitution of course, that's all legal) like robbery or stealing, the police is allowed to monitor phone calls (tapping) and read sms text remotely on their systems. How is that in China? Can the Chinese police monitor your sms if you send text (your name + hotelroom) to a outcall service? I just wonder and perhaps a little bit paranoia.
SteveOf course they monitor! They monitor everything here. The important question is do they care about you? If you are a diplomat, or have some other key role in your country where exposure would be a useful embarrassment, they'll be all over you. If you have JOURNALIST stamped in your passport they'll be all over you. For either of the above there is no such thing as a girl friendly hotel, or girl friendly anything here.
For everyone else, I don't think they care. You're just another wanker wetting your dipstick in the Chinese economy.
GM.
This is incorrect. I have checked this with the police station before. You only need to re-register with the police station if you left the country prior to the expiry of your registration. You can travel all you want in China and stay in hotels, you registration remains valid.
In addition, you do not have 10-14 days to register but 24 hours (72 hours in rural areas). It says so clearly on the back of the yellow landing card that you fill when you enter the country.I agree, I also checked with the PSB in Pudong, only if you change residence, or renew your Visa / Residence permit, should you check in at the local police station. Bear in mind your temporary registration expires with your visa.
Fz
Charly 2144
03-01-12, 22:31
I was in BJ last week and tried twice Fiona's outcall service which has some good reviews ont this forum.
1st experience : Alee (real picture on the web site) :
I asked for a good service and english speaking girl. Fiona recommended Alee and I said ok. Arrived right on time (one hour delay) to my hotel. Actually I've already met this girl when she was working for Lili stable under the name of Kerry. She didn't remember me obviously. Or so she said.
Well, I was happy to see her again as I remembered a nice and slim body though small tits.
To sum up the whole stuff (1 hour meeting) : quite GFE girl (light FK) with lot of cuddles. 2 mn BJ (too short) , but then came the DATY time. I love to lick a pussy and obviously she liked the way I did it as the sheets were all wet after 10 mn. If you have never seen a girl squirt, then try Alee. Just unbelievable how this girl is squirting when she comes. She came several time and of course was so excited that the FS was great. All in all, I spent a very good time with her. I recommend.
Damage : 1000 RMB + 100 for taxi. Quite expensive but still ok.
The 2nd experience is another story : 2 days later I called Fiona again asking for another girl to try. She advised Ping Ping. I was confident and said yes. The girl arrived right on time : nice face but seemed to be a bit chubby. I was feeling pretty horny so decided to keep her and then problems started.
She asked to be paid upfront (never do that) which I did as a fool. After a short shower, I asked for a massage which she did (10 mn mac) reluctantly. Then? Nothing good. No kiss, no BJ, no DATY, nothing just straight sex! Should have buy a doll! WaF! 1100 for that. I unloaded and didn't say a word. I was too upset.
I really don't know what to think about Fiona service. 1st experience was ok. 2nd one was awful. SO make your own opinion about her.
Moistureman
03-02-12, 03:27
Be going to BJ and staying at the Crowne Plaza Zhongguancun. Forst time there. Is this hotel girl friendly and any recommended options for escort . Sounds like fiona is a viable agency any other?
Gualtier Malde
03-02-12, 09:27
I really don't know what to think about Fiona service. 1st experience was ok. 2nd one was awful. SO make your own opinion about her.Well, I suppose you could call them up and complain, but the damage is done. You got screwed three times. Both times you paid too much. So the Fiona crew has you pegged on that already. The second lady gave you the final screw.
If you don't compromise your principles, odds are the service will be good. So in the case of that last lady, you are right, you should have not paid up front, she would have performed better if she knew she had to earn it.
In China there is no such thing as "giving an inch". You have to stick to your principles or just plan on getting screwed, fully and deeply, in all the wrong ways. Good that you had fun with the first one though, squirters are fun, as long as you don't have to sleep on that spot later!
GM.
Charly 2144
03-02-12, 23:29
Well, I suppose you could call them up and complain, but the damage is done. You got screwed three times. Both times you paid too much. So the Fiona crew has you pegged on that already. The second lady gave you the final screw.
If you don't compromise your principles, odds are the service will be good. So in the case of that last lady, you are right, you should have not paid up front, she would have performed better if she knew she had to earn it.
In China there is no such thing as "giving an inch". You have to stick to your principles or just plan on getting screwed, fully and deeply, in all the wrong ways. Good that you had fun with the first one though, squirters are fun, as long as you don't have to sleep on that spot later!
GM.GM, you're a wise man and you're damned right. AS far as the squirting thing is concerned, there was a wet spot indeed but thanks god, I had a king size bed.
IF you have any advise on a reliable outcall service in Beijing, I would be much obliged.
Thanks
Be going to BJ and staying at the Crowne Plaza Zhongguancun. Forst time there. Is this hotel girl friendly and any recommended options for escort . Sounds like fiona is a viable agency any other?Yes the Crowne plaza is definately girl friendly. I personally stay away from the agencies. To hit and miss and 80% of the time it will not be what you want. I would check out the Pig and Maggies. Not sure what is going on at the Pig but maggies is always a safe bet
Tony Knight
03-03-12, 03:56
Yes the Crowne plaza is definately girl friendly. I personally stay away from the agencies. To hit and miss and 80% of the time it will not be what you want. I would check out the Pig and Maggies. Not sure what is going on at the Pig but maggies is always a safe betGoing to Beijing in May. Staying at the Red Wall Hotel. Anyone has information on it. 4 stars, so so reviews but their Web site say they have a spa.
Appreciate any help. First Time. Know a litle of the Zhongwen. Wo shou bu hao. Where do I get information on Maggies?
Going to Beijing in May. Staying at the Red Wall Hotel. Anyone has information on it. 4 stars, so so reviews but their Web site say they have a spa.
Appreciate any help. First Time. Know a litle of the Zhongwen. Wo shou bu hao. Where do I get information on Maggies?I just Googled Maggie's, found it right away. Did you bother to try?
Hi there,
I am quite new in this forum. I just arrived in Beijing, so I cannot give any good information yet. But I need to start with a question. Where can I find south-east asian girls in Beijing? You know, something like Manhattan Bar in Shanghai. Or is Maggies the only place in Beijing? But I am not very into mongolian girls.
Thanks a lot.
I am planning to stay at this Novotel Xin Qiao in Beijing for 5 nights. Anyone who has stayed there before can advise whether it is girl-friendly.
Thanks!
Loveasiangirls
03-03-12, 16:11
Going to Beijing in May. Staying at the Red Wall Hotel. Anyone has information on it. 4 stars, so so reviews but their Web site say they have a spa.
Appreciate any help. First Time. Know a litle of the Zhongwen. Wo shou bu hao. Where do I get information on Maggies?Do they even speak mandarin at Maggies?
Do they even speak mandarin at Maggies?Dude, they're Chinese. Of course they speak Mandarin. LOL.
I am planning to stay at this Novotel Xin Qiao in Beijing for 5 nights. Anyone who has stayed there before can advise whether it is girl-friendly.Most likely yes. I stayed there this summer and really enjoyed the hotel. It is a very large hotel with a lot of traffic in the lobby, etc. So I'd guess there'd be no problem, but I didn't try.
Tony Knight
03-04-12, 01:25
I paid for my one year subscription to the site so Please Please feel free PM me to give me advice on my upcoming trip to Beijing, Guangzhou and Chengdo in May. In Beijing staying at the Red Wall Hotel. Their web site say they have a spa. Any good? Is this Hotel GF, if I find someone to bring up to my room or not.
Again this is my first trip to China. I know some Zhongwen but reading I find hard. I can remember only 50 characters so far.
Tony Knight
03-04-12, 02:18
I just Googled Maggie's, found it right away. Did you bother to try?Stupid me I did not think I could goggle it. Under the impression also that it was UTR
Thanks
Tony Knight
03-04-12, 02:21
Tony, you cannot be PM'ed without an upgrade or a lot more reporting. Please contribute to the forum in someway before asking us to solve your punting needs.I just signed up for one year so people can PM. Thanks for taking me to the light.
Fifty Shades
03-04-12, 03:23
Hi there,
I am quite new in this forum. I just arrived in Beijing, so I cannot give any good information yet. But I need to start with a question. Where can I find south-east asian girls in Beijing? You know, something like Manhattan Bar in Shanghai. Or is Maggies the only place in Beijing? But I am not very into mongolian girls.
Thanks a lot.From my conversations with girls in manhattan bar, there seems to be a well establish route from Thailand to Shanghai. Girls go back and forth every few months. Same thing in HK. I've not run into anything like this in Beijing, but someone else may have more experience with this.
Fifty Shades
03-04-12, 03:32
GM, you're a wise man and you're damned right. AS far as the squirting thing is concerned, there was a wet spot indeed but thanks god, I had a king size bed.
IF you have any advise on a reliable outcall service in Beijing, I would be much obliged.
ThanksAt maggies, what you see is what you get, which is generally a good idea. The problem is that some nights there isn't much to see, at least until very late. With outcall, I've had good experiences with angel and kitty, but not everyone has. I was suprised to read that fiona has some english speaking girls. I've asked, but kitty and angel didn't have any. I assumed that if they spoke english, they went to places like maggies where they can make more money. My impression has been that maggies has more experienced professionals, but the outcalls tend to have more girls recently off the farm (and why they don't speak english). Either can be good or bad depending on your taste.
Gualtier Malde
03-04-12, 05:45
I am planning to stay at this Novotel Xin Qiao in Beijing for 5 nights. Anyone who has stayed there before can advise whether it is girl-friendly.
Thanks!I've never had a problem with either Xin Qiao Novotel or Peace Novotel. It is an upscale hotel (by China standards. Peace is a bit nicer in my opinion) with an attentive and watchful staff. Just be discreet, they are accommodating. As other posters said, the lobby is large and very busy, it is easy to bring in a lady without attracting any attention at all. Xin Qiao's lobby leads to a number of destinations (there is a small shopping venue there, as well as restaurants). No one will know or care whether you and your lady are going shopping, to a restaurant, or to your room.
Late night may be different, I've never tried bringing in a lady after 11pm. Maybe someone else can comment on that. But I've never had any issue at all with a lady in the room, even when we were making quite a lot of noise.
GM.
Loveasiangirls
03-04-12, 06:00
Dude, they're Chinese. Of course they speak Mandarin. LOL.Hey, I was kidding. My point is, everybody speaks english there. No need to speak any mandarin.
From my conversations with girls in manhattan bar, there seems to be a well establish route from Thailand to Shanghai. Girls go back and forth every few months. Same thing in HK. I've not run into anything like this in Beijing, but someone else may have more experience with this.Yes, in Manhattan Bar are a few Thais. But mostly there are Vietnamese. Which doesn't mean they are not pretty. .
But in Beijing it would be nice to have some girls from south east asia. I have been to Maggies last night. A few girls are very nice. But around these there are always a lot of men, which is a real turn off for me. I am not in the mood for some "fight". But in the end I took a girl home. And to make a long story short, it wasn't good. She was nice though, very good body with perfect small tits and an awesome butt. As soon we got in the taxi she was moaning about her headache. And the painkiller I gave her made her sleepy allegedly. And the rest was very boring. I threw her out, didn't want her to stay all night. It cost me 1000RMB. She wanted 1500 in the first place but agreed straight away with my suggestion of 1000. That should have made me suspicious. Anyhow, it is in the past, and there are more weekends coming. Next one I am in Shanghai.
Loveasiangirls
03-06-12, 05:10
My Second trip to Beijing. Call fiona and she recommending me another girl called sasa.
Overall good experience, very new to this field doing part time as she is age of 21. Good GFE not really fantastic at her skills, clean and hygiene. Maybe after more jobs I guess will improve. However, I will say she look innocent and pretty. From hunan. Tall build ard 1. 65cm, and no tummy. Very nice because, Sad to say Her cost is higher 1000RMB.Inflation is really hitting China. This is the price I would expect to pay back home in Canada. I have never paid more than 300 in China and considering their skill level this is usually enough. By I don't do WG in Beijing as there are so many freebies.
My Second trip to Beijing. Call fiona and she recommending me another girl called sasa.
Overall good experience, very new to this field doing part time as she is age of 21. Good GFE not really fantastic at her skills, clean and hygiene. Maybe after more jobs I guess will improve. However, I will say she look innocent and pretty. From hunan. Tall build ard 1. 65cm, and no tummy. Very nice because, Sad to say Her cost is higher 1000RMB.C'mon, go and advertize in the Classified section, enough now.
Chu Xiang Yu
03-06-12, 18:05
Hey guys,
Have you ever pick up girls at the bar in propoganda or sensation. I notice there are some working girls at the bar being pickup by the patrons but I have no idea how to approach. When I do, the girls are friendly but it seems that I said the wrong thing when I introduce myself and they ignored me. It seems that they are looking for customers. What is normally the starting phrase? Is it like how much to take you home? The working girls seem very discrete in their business and they seem to dance with their customers first then negotiate upstairs in the bar and then out they go to whereever they do their business.
Any advice on this matter will be much appreciated.
Thanks
Agreed, the RMB 1000 plus taxi is outrageous. I don't know if it's inflation or just foreigners willing to pay an extra 500 kuai over what a local will pay for the same girls.
In any case, you can be sure that aneh69 is posting fake reviews. Just take a look at their post list. All four posts are glowing reviews of Fiona's service, with the Feb 14 Shanghai and Feb 14 Tianjin reviews having identical wording:
"I was expecting her to be pretty weak, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was really good. She went pretty deep with very good suction and no sign of rushing through it."
"I was expecting her to be pretty weak, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was really good. She went pretty deep with very good suction and no sign of rushing through it."
Inflation is really hitting China. This is the price I would expect to pay back home in Canada. I have never paid more than 300 in China and considering their skill level this is usually enough. By I don't do WG in Beijing as there are so many freebies.
Agreed, the RMB 1000 plus taxi is outrageous. I don't know if it's inflation or just foreigners willing to pay an extra 500 kuai over what a local will pay for the same girls.
In any case, you can be sure that aneh69 is posting fake reviews. Just take a look at their post list. All four posts are glowing reviews of Fiona's service, with the Feb 14 Shanghai and Feb 14 Tianjin reviews having identical wording:
"I was expecting her to be pretty weak, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was really good. She went pretty deep with very good suction and no sign of rushing through it."
"I was expecting her to be pretty weak, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was really good. She went pretty deep with very good suction and no sign of rushing through it."Yeah this is just a ploy to get the price up at this outcall establishment.
Just black list it, there's a few like Fiona's appearing lately, probably ex other places starting out on their own?
I know of at least one of these, upping the price that she was getting with her previous mama by 50, plus offering a couple of
Other girls that she has recruited.
Saying "no thanks" is the best cure for the increasing prices in Beijing
Find a good regular at a fair price so that you have backup.
Hi all.
I will be going to Beijing for the first two weeks of April, staying at the Swissotel. Any advice out there on options for the area (massage, full service) and reasonable price ranges for services? (I want to be fair but not taken for a fool and know nothing about prices etc in China).
Thanks for any help or direction.
Tony Knight
03-09-12, 04:12
Hi all.
I will be going to Beijing for the first two weeks of April, staying at the Swissotel. Any advice out there on options for the area (massage, full service) and reasonable price ranges for services? (I want to be fair but not taken for a fool and know nothing about prices etc in China).
Thanks for any help or direction.Asking for the same information. Hope we find out soon. I am going in May.
Easily Pleased
03-09-12, 04:43
Hi all.
I will be going to Beijing for the first two weeks of April, staying at the Swissotel. Any advice out there on options for the area (massage, full service) and reasonable price ranges for services? (I want to be fair but not taken for a fool and know nothing about prices etc in China).
Thanks for any help or direction.I am a bit of a newcomer (to beijing) myself Maseru. I can't help you too much but I have discovered alot of MP's around Houying (Longyue street). I have been regularly going there. On my last count there were 43 MP's on ONE street but I am sure that there are 10's more in the area. 168rmb for the massage and tug (They start at 200rmb) but so far the girls have been jumping out of their clothes for the performances. As I am Easily Pleased, this suits me just fine. Of course, most of the girls are average but I have found a few of what I would consider VERY beautiful.
Anyway, I hope it helps in some way. Enjoy.
Mtraveller
03-09-12, 23:47
Dude, they're Chinese. Of course they speak Mandarin. LOL.You are a en even bigger Dude. He refers to proper Mandarin not some weird dialect or accent. There is an official spoken Mandarin examination at Chinese universities and its mandatory to pass it to work in certain parts of the public sector (like TV stations). So yes Dude, most Chinese do NOT speak proper Mandarin.
You are a en even bigger Dude. He refers to proper Mandarin not some weird dialect or accent. There is an official spoken Mandarin examination at Chinese universities and its mandatory to pass it to work in certain parts of the public sector (like TV stations). So yes Dude, most Chinese do NOT speak proper Mandarin.He was making a joke. I didn't get it at the time and apparently you didn't either.
Hi all.
I will be going to Beijing for the first two weeks of April, staying at the Swissotel. Any advice out there on options for the area (massage, full service) and reasonable price ranges for services? (I want to be fair but not taken for a fool and know nothing about prices etc in China).
Thanks for any help or direction.I live right down the street and I know there are some massage places in the area but not sure of how good the service is or how good the girls look, etc. In any case, if you PM me I would be happy to help you out when you come to BJ as long as I am in town. It is only a 5 minute walk from my house to Swissotel so it wouldn't be a problem for me. Also, if you need some help withe Chinese I can help you to ask some questions in the places as I speak Chinese pretty well.
AddictedTozgnh
03-11-12, 06:34
Anyone know if it's worth going to Yanjiao now with Parmliament still in sessoin?
Hey ISG'ers,
Been following this forum for around two months now, around when I found out I was headed to beijing for a little bit of work. First pro experience actually, obviously just getting my feet wet. But hopefully plenty more to come! Unfortunately unable to use any of the outcall providers since I'm with the family.
In my casual forum browsing I stumbled upon quite a few reports...
Hello, everyone.
I will be staying at Holiday Inn Beijing Chang An in a couple of weeks for a few days. Any action within hotel premises? If not, anything nearby? I am open for any recommendations.
Thanks a lot in advance,
Grazioli
Tony Knight
03-12-12, 01:53
I live right down the street and I know there are some massage places in the area but not sure of how good the service is or how good the girls look, etc. In any case, if you PM me I would be happy to help you out when you come to BJ as long as I am in town. It is only a 5 minute walk from my house to Swissotel so it wouldn't be a problem for me. Also, if you need some help withe Chinese I can help you to ask some questions in the places as I speak Chinese pretty well.Any informatione you can give me on places close to the Red Wall Hotel. Will be there early May.
Thanks,
Tony
Any informatione you can give me on places close to the Red Wall Hotel. Will be there early May.
Thanks,
TonyTony,
Unfortunately I don't know what is available around that hotel. Most places you can always get outcall service to your hotel room from one of the services recommend by some of the more senior members here if you can't find anything suitable in your area.
Just a warning of a 'lost wallet' scam to be careful of. A girl on dateinasia messaged me. She had Shanghai in her profile and said was coming to Beijing for some university thing. She asked me to meet her in her lobby hotel on Sunday at 1pm. The hotel, the Starway Starmoon, turned out to be a two or three star joint close to the fourth ring road, almost in the countryside.
I get there on time and she messages me from her taxi saying she'll be there in 10 minutes. When she was almost there she texted me from her taxi asking me to come out to the taxi to meet her. She then asked me to give her 14 rmb for the driver.
The first warning sign should have been she looked nothing like her photo in DIA.
Then the sob story about how she left her wallet in the taxi on the way to Shanghai airport, complete with how bad that driver was, going to Pudong instead of Hongxiao etc.
At checkin she told me the hotel needed a deposit of 800rmb and could I lend that to her, otherwise she couldn't check in, even though the hotel was prepaid on CTrip. Stupidly, I just gave her the cash and we checked in.
The next hour or so was quite pleasant, chatting in her room with a little kiss and cuddle, but she wanted to go slow so nothing more.
Then she wanted to go for lunch, so into the taxi and a not bad lunch at a Sushi train next to Carrefour. It was quite good, except she spent most of the time saying how much better Shanghai and complaining about Beijing.
At that stage, I still hadn't thought about the whole thing being BS, so bought her some basic stuff in Carrefour like moisturiser and instant noodles for about 150rmb, and then, even more stupidly, gave her 500rmb so she would have some cash.
She had told me earlier she had one ticket to go to some show at Red Theatre for the people at her event and I had to go to a friend's birthday dinner in Sanlitun, so I dropped her off at the theatre and went on to my birthday dinner. The agreement was I would go back to her hotel after the dinner and we would stay the night together.
I caught up with an American friend at Sanlitun and it was only then, telling him about it that the penny finally dropped and it became pretty obvious I'the been scammed.
During the dinner, I get a text from the girl saying she was tired and can we meet tomorrow. And, of course, the next day (Monday) another text asking if she can borrow 8000rmb to pay her organisation fee.
This morning (Tuesday) I sent her a text saying how I was considering reporting her to dateinasia and also asking my good Chinese friend who has some good contacts in the police to investigate her. My American friend pointed out that quite possibly she's working with that cheap hotel, so there may be no record of her I'd card at the hotel.
Within a couple of minutes of me sending that text, she had blocked me in dateinasia, which means it's very difficult to report her. I emailed dateinasia, but as it's a free site, it's unlikely they'll take any action.
So just a warning not to be trusting with any story you hear. In China, where's there smoke, there's usually a massive fire! And if you hear that BS line about lost wallet, run!
Ok I know I was incredibly slow on the uptake; it just hadn't occurred to me that this gal was BS. Never let the little head take over the big head and don't fall for any lines about something nice in the future. If it's not there, right now, then there's a good chance it won't be any more in the future.
The whole thing cost me maybe 1500rmb. Not a big amount, but it's not nice being scammed. But at least it was a reasonably inexpensive lesson and, hopefully, one I'll learn from.
I'm not sure of the etiquette of naming and shaming here. The name she gave me was Hong. I'm happy to also give her DIA profile name, either by PM or posting it here if I get some suggestions to do so. One to watch out for!
As the old Russian saying about marriage goes: keep both eyes open before marriage and one eye closed after. From now on, I'll definitely have both eyes open a lot more!
after the shitty experience of being scammed, i needed a bit of 'tender comfort'. so rang up fiona for some 'home delivery'. last time fiona sent a pretty girl and i had a good time – that was niko way back in late december. niko was very pretty and petite, but seemed surprised to see a foreigner and a bit shy. once niko got warmed up, all was good.
this second girl, sasa, seemed much more relaxed and less inhibited. as soon as sasa came in, i was greeted with a nice little hug and a gentle kiss on the lips. nice.
again, unfortunately, sasa could barely speak a word of english and my mandarin sucks, so that destroyed the gfe illusion a little. still she was very pretty, young and reasonably tall (fiona's website lists her as 165cm and 21 yo, but she looks younger) and very slim, almost skinny, with small breasts.
still, what sasa lacked in language ability, she more than made up with bonkability.
one of the reasons i chose sasa was that the website describes her as giving the 'perfect massage'. after a couple of minutes struggling to communicate, i requested an 'anmo' on the bed. i think sasa was relieved to not have to continue listen to my bad mandarin. after all, she was not there for a language lesson!
i'm not sure what a 'perfect massage' is, but it was very pleasant, although far from the hard, therapeutic 'serious' massage and got me into the mood for love.
one thing i like about sasa is she took control a bit and i was very happy to be the receiver rather than the giver. with gfs, sometimes i feel they should pay me! so it was nice just to lie back and enjoy the massage. eventually i wanted more, so turned over. a little kiss and cuddle and then she got the hint and moved slowly down to give me a nice bbbj.
i would have loved to have cim with her, but have no idea how to ask for that in chinese. any suggestions? somehow i think 'cim keyi ma' would not exactly be understood.
in any case, i'the paid for fs and wanted to experience more. on with the safety gear and a nice little session with the typical positions. at least she seemed to enjoy it (or was a good actor) and didn't seem to have any problems taking me or want to rush.
the finale was a pretty sexy hj and a nice cot. i got the feeling she didn't like cof, so didn't push it.
a bit of a cleanup and one nice touch was she didn't jump straight out of bed, but was happy to relax with a little cuddle. i hate it when the girl races to the shower, as if i had just sprayed acid over her!
overall a very nice experience with a very pretty young girl who seemed to want to please the customer, not rush and take some pride in her work. and a good way to relax after the scam experience.
Love Da Asians
03-13-12, 21:50
Hello, everyone, its been a while since I posted here. So I will share my experiences I have had.
For Beijing and all cities I travel to in China its easy to find suitable outcall easily and of lesser cost.
First thing.
Search QQ Instant messenger, download it and create a user account.
Next thing to do is also simple.
Go to google once again. Always search in Chinese Characters, otherwise you will be directed to all the english sites in for this service which always will quote you a twice than normal common Chinese man will pay in Beijing.
In Beijing search "&21271; &20140; &23567; &22992;"
&21271; &20140; &23567; &22992; = Beijing XiaoJie.
Xiaojie= Prostitute / Callgirl / WG you get the math I hope.
Most places and website will maybe not post the price for full service but most will have a QQ number. (most in Websites for Guangzhou or Shenzhen will have prices for services)
Open your QQ, and add their QQ number to your contacts.
Make sure when you start the talk, first ask price.
I suggest have a few phrases ready and translated in Chinese to be ready to get the price and information you want.
For starters &20320; &22909; = Hello,
&20320; &22909; = Hello,
&22909; =Good, like agreement. Yes.
&20160; &20040; &26159; &26368; &20302; &30340; &26381; &21153; &20215; &26684; &26159; &22810; &23569; &65311; = what is the lowest price for service.
&22810; &23569; &38065; = how much the price?
&24555; &39184; = short time service.
&36807; &22812; = overnight.
&20219; &20309; &24180; &40836; 19-22&23681; &30340; &22899; &23401; &65311; = any girls ages 19-22?
&25105; &26159; &32654; &22269; &20154; = I am american.
You will need to tell them that, in the end, when they need to know your hotel or apartment address.
Also once they know you know something about contacting them this way, you get around paying the inflated fees from other providers.
I made these using a translator so if anyone can correct them further I would appreciate it.
I have never had a problem with them understanding me. I have used this process to search for services in many cities, HongKong, Beijing, Changsha, Zhu Zhou, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Zhongshan, Xian. Never had a problem once.
And always the price is a lot lower it seems. I see most english website the charge for Short service ranges from 1000-1500rmb. That is truly obsurd.
Most Chinese Sites will have prices around 400rmb-800rmb for quick service. Only 1200rmb for overnight which is what some are paying for quick service.
So please use this advice, hope it helps save the pocket book some and also save some wasted time too.
I have never experienced the BBS scene at all. I really would like to give it a try. I will be back in Beijing in April, if anyone knows of any good BBS location or wants to go out punting for one let me know.
Hi LovedaAsians.
Very useful info, thanks. Can anyone suggest how to post in Chinese characters or why it comes up in numbers like this?
LovedaAsians, it would be great if you could repost your report using pinyin or characters.
Thanks.
"In Beijing search "&21271; &20140; &23567; &22992;"
&21271; &20140; &23567; &22992; = Beijing XiaoJie.
Xiaojie= Prostitute / Callgirl / WG you get the math I hope.
For starters &20320; &22909; = Hello,
&20320; &22909; = Hello,
&22909; =Good, like agreement. Yes.
&20160; &20040; &26159; &26368; &20302; &30340; &26381; &21153; &20215; &26684; &26159; &22810; &23569; &65311; = what is the lowest price for service.
&22810; &23569; &38065; = how much the price?
&24555; &39184; = short time service.
&36807; &22812; = overnight.
&20219; &20309; &24180; &40836; 19-22&23681; &30340; &22899; &23401; &65311; = any girls ages 19-22?
&25105; &26159; &32654; &22269; &20154; = I am american."
Dan Diggler
03-14-12, 07:04
Just a warning of a 'lost wallet' scam to be careful of. A girl on dateinasia messaged me. She had Shanghai in her profile and said was coming to Beijing for some university thing. She asked me to meet her in her lobby hotel on Sunday at 1pm. The hotel, the Starway Starmoon, turned out to be a two or three star joint...Pop me a pm with her details. I will report her for you.
I would have loved to have CIM with her, but have no idea how to ask for that in Chinese. Any suggestions? Somehow I think 'CIM keyi ma' would not exactly be understood.CIM in Chinese is kou (3) bao (4) , literally "mouth" "explode".
I think this is borrowed from Japanese porn.
However, not a lot of girls I know would do it. They usually pull out when its about to cum.
Chuckle One
03-14-12, 13:09
I use Google Translate with great success. You can type out what you want to say in English and it gives you back the Chinese characters. One suggestion though is to cut and paste the characters into the translation window and reverse the translation in order to double check exactly what you are sending. I just started exploring the options on QQ with great success. There is a decent glossary of QQ terms on the Shanghai Nightlife website which have come in very handy as well. Most girls are 300-400 short time in their apartment and 800-900 plus cab fare overnight in your hotel.
Going to Beijing this coming May. Can anybody suggest a really good, top class spa (or sauna or massage or whatever you call it)?
Price is secondary. What I'm looking for is the kind of experience you can get in such places further south, like in Shanghai or Shenzhen.
Going to Beijing this coming May. Can anybody suggest a really good, top class spa (or sauna or massage or whatever you call it)?
Price is secondary. What I'm looking for is the kind of experience you can get in such places further south, like in Shanghai or Shenzhen.Good thing that you've mentioned that price is secondary, because even if there are, they're going to be extremely costly. But frankly, so far from my personal experience and from other reports, there hasn't been a sauna in Beijing that matches up to anything Shanghai or Shenzhen have to offer. The cost:benefit ratio for sauna service in Beijing is terrible. So either plan to be disappointed and have an empty wallet, or just wait till you get back to the south, or any other city. Haha.
Member #4683
03-15-12, 05:25
Going to Beijing this coming May. Can anybody suggest a really good, top class spa (or sauna or massage or whatever you call it)?
Price is secondary. What I'm looking for is the kind of experience you can get in such places further south, like in Shanghai or Shenzhen.Hey. I have been needing the same from time to time. So far haven't been checking them out but have heard about a few places:
Lotus Club.
Silk Stocking Clubhouse.
Moonlight Clubhouse
Xiao Huang Private Club
Health Pavilion
Anyone knows about these or have other places to add?
Gualtier Malde
03-15-12, 06:27
Hi LovedaAsians.
Very useful info, thanks. Can anyone suggest how to post in Chinese characters or why it comes up in numbers like this?
LovedaAsians, it would be great if you could repost your report using pinyin or characters.
Thanks.
"In Beijing search "&21271; &20140; &23567; &22992;"
&21271; &20140; &23567; &22992; = Beijing XiaoJie.Agreed, I've had an absolutely terrible time making this work. The only thing that works for me is if I use the quote feature:
北京小姐Is what his characters for the above statement were supposed to be. There must be a better way but I don't know it. Maybe someone else can suggest something better.
GM.
hi all,
coming to beijing shortly for the fourth time. i have experienced the usual hotel massage girls and contacted a couple of girls via adverts in the past and generally i've had good experiences. i've never to to maggies or places like that as i simply don't have time with a busy work schedule. i am however, looking for a sub girl in beijing and have been unable to find anything remotely close by googling. particularly looking for a girl who is up for sub games including tying up, spanking etc. plus both way [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), bbbj and maybe anal. can any of you guys give me any leads? happy to do it by pm and to swop information from other countries i regularly visit.
Inflation is really hitting China. This is the price I would expect to pay back home in Canada. I have never paid more than 300 in China and considering their skill level this is usually enough. By I don't do WG in Beijing as there are so many freebies.I'm a new member and found your comment about 'freebies' interesting. I've been to Beijing 4 times and used WG's but never met any girls offering 'freebies' when out and about town. Are there bars or similar when girls like this hang out looking for Western Guys? Would appreciate a heads up on this please.
SteelBaton
03-15-12, 20:33
This second girl, Sasa, seemed much more relaxed and less inhibited. As soon as Sasa came in, I was greeted with a nice little hug and a gentle kiss on the lips. Nice.
Again, unfortunately, Sasa could barely speak a word of English and my Mandarin sucks, so that destroyed the GFE illusion a little. Still she was very pretty, young and reasonably tall (Fiona's website lists her as 165cm and 21 yo, but she looks younger) and very slim, almost skinny, with small breasts.
Still, what Sasa lacked in language ability, she more than made up with bonkability.
Overall a very nice experience with a very pretty young girl who seemed to want to please the customer, not rush and take some pride in her work. And a good way to relax after the scam experience.Nice report. What was the damage? And, how much lead time did Fiona need to have Sasa at your place. Cheers!
Just a warning of a 'lost wallet' scam to be careful of. A girl on dateinasia messaged me. She had Shanghai in her profile and said was coming to Beijing for some university thing. She asked me to meet her in her lobby hotel on Sunday at 1pm. The hotel, the Starway Starmoon, turned out to be a two or three star joint close to the fourth ring road, almost in the countryside.
I get there on time and she messages me from her taxi saying she'll be there in 10 minutes. When she was almost there she texted me from her taxi asking me to come out to the taxi to meet her. She then asked me to give her 14 rmb for the driver.
The first warning sign should have been she looked nothing like her photo in DIA.
Then the sob story about how she left her wallet in the taxi on the way to Shanghai airport, complete with how bad that driver was, going to Pudong instead of Hongxiao etc.
At checkin she told me the hotel needed a deposit of 800rmb and could I lend that to her, otherwise she couldn't check in, even though the hotel was prepaid on CTrip. Stupidly, I just gave her the cash and we checked in.
The next hour or so was quite pleasant, chatting in her room with a little kiss and cuddle, but she wanted to go slow so nothing more.
Then she wanted to go for lunch, so into the taxi and a not bad lunch at a Sushi train next to Carrefour. It was quite good, except she spent most of the time saying how much better Shanghai and complaining about Beijing.
At that stage, I still hadn't thought about the whole thing being BS, so bought her some basic stuff in Carrefour like moisturiser and instant noodles for about 150rmb, and then, even more stupidly, gave her 500rmb so she would have some cash.
She had told me earlier she had one ticket to go to some show at Red Theatre for the people at her event and I had to go to a friend's birthday dinner in Sanlitun, so I dropped her off at the theatre and went on to my birthday dinner. The agreement was I would go back to her hotel after the dinner and we would stay the night together.
I caught up with an American friend at Sanlitun and it was only then, telling him about it that the penny finally dropped and it became pretty obvious I'the been scammed.
During the dinner, I get a text from the girl saying she was tired and can we meet tomorrow. And, of course, the next day (Monday) another text asking if she can borrow 8000rmb to pay her organisation fee.
This morning (Tuesday) I sent her a text saying how I was considering reporting her to dateinasia and also asking my good Chinese friend who has some good contacts in the police to investigate her. My American friend pointed out that quite possibly she's working with that cheap hotel, so there may be no record of her I'd card at the hotel.
Within a couple of minutes of me sending that text, she had blocked me in dateinasia, which means it's very difficult to report her. I emailed dateinasia, but as it's a free site, it's unlikely they'll take any action.
So just a warning not to be trusting with any story you hear. In China, where's there smoke, there's usually a massive fire! And if you hear that BS line about lost wallet, run!
Ok I know I was incredibly slow on the uptake; it just hadn't occurred to me that this gal was BS. Never let the little head take over the big head and don't fall for any lines about something nice in the future. If it's not there, right now, then there's a good chance it won't be any more in the futureThats a bad story mate.
If you don't mind, pm me her DIA link.
Paste one of her photo here if you got any. Let all other members be consious.
These people doesnot deserve any respect!
Shikkar
Loveasiangirls
03-16-12, 04:13
I'm a new member and found your comment about 'freebies' interesting. I've been to Beijing 4 times and used WG's but never met any girls offering 'freebies' when out and about town. Are there bars or similar when girls like this hang out looking for Western Guys? Would appreciate a heads up on this please.I don't pick up girls in bars although I know many go looking for a one night stand. I met all my girls over the internet. Chat them up and meet. Lots of them. I always have a friends or 2 or 3 when I travel somewhere in China. The only challenge is to manage the schedule so they don't bump into each other. BUT you also need to have some time to filter the long list, chat with them, deleted to bad prospects and have a few coffees that lead to nothing. If you are traveling, you need to sort them out before you come.
Bad Boy Billy
03-16-12, 05:56
Will be in Beijing Mar 22 to 28. Who is around at that time?
I don't pick up girls in bars although I know many go looking for a one night stand. I met all my girls over the internet. Chat them up and meet. Lots of them. I always have a friends or 2 or 3 when I travel somewhere in China. The only challenge is to manage the schedule so they don't bump into each other. BUT you also need to have some time to filter the long list, chat with them, deleted to bad prospects and have a few coffees that lead to nothing. If you are traveling, you need to sort them out before you come.Same here mate. I got really pissed when one of my girl.
Take a look into my mobile when I went to take a shower.
She caught me red hand. All messages, photos, call list!
I had play a big drama afterwards.
Loveasiangirls
03-16-12, 13:22
Same here mate. I got really pissed when one of my girl.
Take a look into my mobile when I went to take a shower.
She caught me red hand. All messages, photos, call list!
I had play a big drama afterwards.Funny. Good reason to password protect your phone. If you have the iPhone get the app called iTrust. It tells you if someone tried to look in your phone.
FernandoAlonso
03-17-12, 02:00
Will be in Beijing Mar 22 to 28. Who is around at that time?Mate,
We make sure to be out of town.
FA
It was 1000rmb +100 for the "taxi". Not cheap, but easy, relaxing and a good service.
Fiona speaks good English, so it was very quick to arrange.
I don't know how much lead time Fiona would need. Obviously it depends if you ask for a particular girl or whoever's available at that moment. I asked for Sasa to come about 1 hour after my text and she was pretty prompt.
Enjoy.
Nice report. What was the damage? And, how much lead time did Fiona need to have Sasa at your place. Cheers!
My favourite condom is Sagami 002. They are very thin, only 20 microns thick, and non-latex.
I replenished my stock last time I was in Australia. I buy them direct from www.002.com.au
The biggest drawback is they are very expensive but they're the best I've tried so far.
A few months ago, Nameci organised a very fun KTV session with a few other ISGers . Thanks Nameci for a great night out.
Wandering back home, I dropped into a sex shop just opposite the KTV and found two very cute young Chinese gals working there. Best of all, they sold Sagami 002s at a price I think was a little lower than I pay in Australia.
The sex shop is at 216 Ring Road 3 44-2 and their number is 6771 8356.
I think that shop sold two sizes. They had the same one I got in Australia (58mm +- 2mm) and the other I think was smaller. So be careful to check the size
Reminds me of that old joke: Winston Churchill was asked to approve a shipment of extra large British condoms being sent to Germany. He approved it, but got all the British made big condoms to be marked "small".
My favourite condom is Sagami 002. They are very thin, only 20 microns thick, and non-latex.
I replenished my stock last time I was in Australia. I buy them direct from.
www.002.com.au
The biggest drawback is they are very expensive but they're the best I've tried so far.
A few months ago, Nameci organised a very fun KTV session with a few other ISGers. Thanks Nameci for a great night out.
Wandering back home, I dropped into a sex shop just opposite the KTV and found two very cute young Chinese gals working there. Best of all, they sold Sagami 002s at a price I think was a little lower than I pay in Australia.
The sex shop is at 216 Ring Road 3 44-2 and their number is 6771 8356.
I think that shop sold two sizes. They had the same one I got in Australia (58mm +- 2mm) and the other I think was smaller. So be careful to check the size
Reminds me of that old joke: Winston Churchill was asked to approve a shipment of extra large British condoms being sent to Germany. He approved it, but got all the British made big condoms to be marked "small".Haha, you're welcome. So seems you got an extra benefit from that night. Looking forward to having another one sometime if there's more interest.
Just saw the Sagami launch party in Taiwan on Youtube. Some really hot babes there, both the dancers and some of the guests.
I first thought the girls were Japanese, but guess they must be Taiwanese. Gorgeous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5W9qqpOFu4
Easily Pleased
03-17-12, 17:19
My favourite condom is Sagami 002. They are very thin, only 20 microns thick, and non-latex.
Reminds me of that old joke: Winston Churchill was asked to approve a shipment of extra large British condoms being sent to Germany. He approved it, but got all the British made big condoms to be marked "small"."My fav condom is.","20 micros thin.", Reminds me of that old joke". Jesus Christ. Are yiz running out of info and conversation pieces or what? Please, please, please. I just spent a LONG time RTFF. A couch is a fucking couch but who is on the couch with me is FAR more interesting to me!
Happy St Patrick's day BTW. Enjoy!
Easily Pleased
03-17-12, 17:30
"She then asked me to give her 14 rmb for the driver."- Understandable but still casts doubts.
"The first warning sign should have been she looked nothing like her photo in DIA."- BANG!
"Then the sob story about how she left her wallet in the taxi on the way to Shanghai airport, complete with how bad that driver was, going to Pudong instead of Hongxiao etc."- And you proceeded? OMFG. Sorry to be so harsh but FFS.
Will be in Beijing Mar 22 to 28. Who is around at that time?I'll be around. This will be my first time to China. From the reviews I've read so far it seems like it's a hit or miss in terms of P4P and the like. Let me know. Later!
Chu Xiang Yu
03-18-12, 01:30
Will be in Beijing Mar 22 to 28. Who is around at that time?I will be around too and would like to join in the fun. What's the plan?
Bad Boy Billy
03-18-12, 22:06
I'll be around. This will be my first time to China. From the reviews I've read so far it seems like it's a hit or miss in terms of P4P and the like. Let me know. Later!Cyberdas. I have checked some of your postings. You definitely qualify to be part of the Beijing 'inner sanctum'. I will pm you with my phone number.
Am looking forward to getting the lowdown on MDE. I am planning Sosua for 6 nights Sept. But I just got to fo MDE one day. Just so goddam far from MEL.
Bad Boy Billy
03-18-12, 22:09
I will be around too and would like to join in the fun. What's the plan?No plan as yet. We will see how things unfold.
Gualtier Malde
03-19-12, 04:24
Will be in Beijing Mar 22 to 28. Who is around at that time?Might be around. PM sent.
GM.
Member #4683
03-19-12, 04:55
Will be in Beijing Mar 22 to 28. Who is around at that time?Sounds very interesting. Should be possible.
Where to meet?
Bad Boy Billy
03-19-12, 21:40
Sounds very interesting. Should be possible.
Where to meet?Munk you live in Beijing right? You should be showing us around.
Cyberdas. I have checked some of your postings. You definitely qualify to be part of the Beijing 'inner sanctum'. I will pm you with my phone number.
Am looking forward to getting the lowdown on MDE. I am planning Sosua for 6 nights Sept. But I just got to fo MDE one day. Just so goddam far from MEL.Many thanks for the compliment, Bad Boy Billy; I would definitely be pleased in directing / helping you along your way thru MDE. Some good friends just got back and had only good things to say. I should be in Beijing this upcoming Thursday. Definitely PM me your number so we can arrange meeting up somewhere.
All the best!
Munk you live in Beijing right? You should be showing us around.Yeah Munk, I definitely agree with Bad Boy Billy here LOL!
The honorary list so far for a possible hunting posse is:
Munk69.
Chu Xiang Yu.
Gualtier Malde.
Bad Boy Billy.
Cyberdas (Me)
Anyone else care to join?
Member #4683
03-20-12, 09:34
Munk you live in Beijing right? You should be showing us around.Sorry guys, haven't been here long.
What I can suggest is Lotus Club, Silk Stocking Clubhouse, Moonlight Clubhouse, Xiao Huang Private Club and Health Pavilion.
Do not know any of the places but found the addresses in another forum.
YanJiao could also be interesting to visit. Eventhough business is running low out there.
Dan Diggler
03-20-12, 12:14
I don't pick up girls in bars although I know many go looking for a one night stand. I met all my girls over the internet. Chat them up and meet. Lots of them. I always have a friends or 2 or 3 when I travel somewhere in China. The only challenge is to manage the schedule so they don't bump into each other. BUT you also need to have some time to filter the long list, chat with them, deleted to bad prospects and have a few coffees that lead to nothing. If you are traveling, you need to sort them out before you come.Thought I would highlight this, as it took me a year to settle into the stride of things with it.
Now I average 50 girls in QQ that are floating in and out. Some stay some go.
And every now and again, I give it a flush just to refresh it.
Had some great weekends with girls that I have only talked to for a week or so.
But on average its 3-4 weeks of talking then a meet for coffee. And its hows your father.
Problem is when you get this down pat. There is not enough days or nights in the week to keep them all happy.
Moistureman
03-21-12, 01:34
Looks like I'll just have 2 days / 1 night in Beijing and won't have time to look around. So would like to opt for outcall. Appreciate a pm on fiona's contact info. Or any other recommended outcall service.
It was 1000rmb +100 for the "taxi". Not cheap, but easy, relaxing and a good service.
Fiona speaks good English, so it was very quick to arrange.
I don't know how much lead time Fiona would need. Obviously it depends if you ask for a particular girl or whoever's available at that moment. I asked for Sasa to come about 1 hour after my text and she was pretty prompt.
Enjoy.
Moistureman
03-21-12, 02:07
Any tips recommendations for massage / FS / outcall action near (walking distance) the Crowne Plaza Hotel?
Member #4683
03-22-12, 05:15
Thought I would highlight this, as it took me a year to settle into the stride of things with it.
Now I average 50 girls in QQ that are floating in and out. Some stay some go.
And every now and again, I give it a flush just to refresh it.
Had some great weekends with girls that I have only talked to for a week or so.
But on average its 3-4 weeks of talking then a meet for coffee. And its hows your father.
Problem is when you get this down pat. There is not enough days or nights in the week to keep them all happy.You guys write in Chinese or English?
Gualtier Malde
03-23-12, 04:20
You guys write in Chinese or English?Of course if you can write Chinese, do so, that's the easiest. If not, you can survive just fine with Google translate. It makes chatting a little busier, but it is accurate enough that you can get your message across. I find that most of the girls I chat with on QQ do the same thing. We tend to bounce between english and Chinese writing, but with some I'm sure they are generating the english through a translator.
All my Chinese writing is through google translate.
GM.
Gualtier Malde
03-23-12, 04:28
Sorry guys, haven't been here long.
What I can suggest is Lotus Club, Silk Stocking Clubhouse, Moonlight Clubhouse, Xiao Huang Private Club and Health Pavilion.
Do not know any of the places but found the addresses in another forum.
YanJiao could also be interesting to visit. Eventhough business is running low out there.Munk69, I think you got these off of the beijing-nightlife-guide dot com website. I think most of that information is woefully out of date or inaccurate. I would love to be proven wrong, but I doubt any of the places you listed are active.
I followed up on one MP they listed as providing happy endings and full service. It ended up to be a normal, legitimate spa (for men and women, but especially women). No extra services offered at all, and a pricey place to boot. (But at least it was a nice, clean, professional, warm oil massage.)
My advice is to ignore that website. The accurate information is right here.
GM.
Tony Knight
03-23-12, 04:42
Thought I would highlight this, as it took me a year to settle into the stride of things with it.
Now I average 50 girls in QQ that are floating in and out. Some stay some go.
And every now and again, I give it a flush just to refresh it.
Had some great weekends with girls that I have only talked to for a week or so.
But on average its 3-4 weeks of talking then a meet for coffee. And its hows your father.
Problem is when you get this down pat. There is not enough days or nights in the week to keep them all happy.Been trying to uplaod QQ but I must not be using the correct link. Can you share the downlad link with me?
Gualtier Malde
03-23-12, 05:46
I must revise my previous post. I decided to contact the venues listed under "Beijing Saunas" on that site. They all seem to exist. I have had QQ interaction with most of them. I think I'll try one. I'll post my experience.
GM.
Munk69, I think you got these off of the beijing-nightlife-guide dot com website. I think most of that information is woefully out of date or inaccurate. I would love to be proven wrong, but I doubt any of the places you listed are active.
I followed up on one MP they listed as providing happy endings and full service. It ended up to be a normal, legitimate spa (for men and women, but especially women). No extra services offered at all, and a pricey place to boot. (But at least it was a nice, clean, professional, warm oil massage.)
My advice is to ignore that website. The accurate information is right here.
GM.
Gualtier Malde
03-23-12, 08:24
I must revise my previous post. I decided to contact the venues listed under "Beijing Saunas" on that site. They all seem to exist. I have had QQ interaction with most of them. I think I'll try one. I'll post my experience.
GM.After much QQ with Lotus Club (for directions, available appointment time, etc.) they texted that there is "no sex, only silk foot". I assume this means it is a stocking fetish place, but someone into that might go to see if anything else is on the menu.
With that, I decided to go to Health Pavilion instead. I just finished there, and am in the taxi as I write this. They are located in southwest Beijing, near the third ring. They are close to Liuli Bridge.
Facility is not easy to find. It is in a big apartment complex. The staff will give taxi driver directions, but once you are there you have to find the building yourself. I asked a local, and he generously pointed it out.
They say they have three girls. I saw two. The one I had was pretty. Service was complete. (But one could mention to them that a titty massage from a girl with 32A breasts at best is pointless.)
I paid too much, because I didn't negotiate at all, and got a price set during the QQ session (I do better face to face). Paid 800, ouch. You should be able to get it from them for 500-600 at most.
They speak no English there, but they do use a translator when texting.
GM.
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