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Gualtier Malde
06-05-12, 15:56
Setting, my account, qq. Setting, plug-ins.
MmlouieSo, I installed WeChat. I have mixed feelings. First, it is addictive. It is cool to see who is nearby. The original poster was wrong about nearby distance. It will show people as close as 100 meters, not 1000 meters. That's quite close. But I don't know how accurate it is.
The "throw a bottle" feature is interesting. You toss out a random comment anyone can pick up. The analogy is putting a message in a bottle, see who picks it up. It can end up anywhere. I got a lot of responses from Thailand. Best to say in your note where you are, and who you want responses from.
One chick that showed up nearby was showing photos of her cleavage (modest) and her crotch. So I sent her a message that was quite direct. Her identity was "prettypartygirl" so I asked her if she wanted to party. Her response was immediate: "Shut up. Asshole." A bit of a temper!
I've had much happier chats with others.
One big surprise: right after installing it, I got hailed by a massage parlor girl I visit frequently near my home. I had no idea she was on WeChat.
Negative comments: You can't select text in the girls profiles for translation. So there is no way to tell what they are posting on their profile if you can't read Chinese. Chat is different. You can translate that text.
Worst feature: you cannot determine a person's age. I started a chat with someone, who had a photo of a baby as her profile photo. I asked why, and she said her Mom would not allow her to post a picture of her. I asked her age: 15. Immediate block.
Be careful out there.
GM.
SE Asia Joe
06-06-12, 11:33
Why is the Beijing thread always getting inundated by guerilla marketers?
The perennial Angels and Crystals and whatever escort services, now even massage parlours?
SEAJ
Brooklyn Cyclone
06-06-12, 12:42
Why is the Beijing thread always getting inundated by guerilla marketers?
The perennial Angels and Crystals and whatever escort services, now even massage parlours?
SEAJI don't think all are guerilla marketers. There are lots of escort services FR because that is all Beijing got. At least I haven't found anything else besides that. Anyone has other information please share.
Easily Pleased
06-06-12, 15:53
Why is the Beijing thread always getting inundated by guerilla marketers?
The perennial Angels and Crystals and whatever escort services, now even massage parlours?
SEAJMassage Parlours too? I wish!
Spiderjerusalem
06-06-12, 16:41
I was hoping to do a little searching. I've got a thing for girls with tattoos. I don't mean a butterfly tattoo on their hip or ankle, but I'm talking half sleeve / sleeves of tattoos, or just someone who kind of fits that model.
Has anyone seen someone who'd fit the bill? Could any of you point me in the right direction?
I always tell people NOT TO go to a KTV, unless they are NOT into S, they are truly invited, they are into singing (and why not)
For S in BJ, bathouses. Also called SPA- are the places where to go. They come in all shapes, all styles, all sizes, and all qualities.
Some are mix, some are not, some are mix but genders only meet in the restaurant, internet area, common massage rooms, and private (VIP) rooms...This place sounds great. I will check it out and report. Thanks for sharing!
Guys,
Any input on my posting below?
Many thanks.
Hello guys. Please no flaming responses, just looking for some help while staying in Beijing. I am 1x a month visitor to HKG, SZx and PVG and know the places and scenery very well in those places. However I am complete newbie in Beijing and given the location of my hotel and hours of workshop / conference I will be attending, I can use some pointers.
I will be staying at Crowne Plaza (Address: No. 106 Zhi Chun Road Hai Dian District Beijing. 100086). I stayed there last year and I swear to god, the hotel is in boon docks and I did not see any possible places to get some action anywhere near that goddamned hotel! I desperately need some help if you know of any places near this hotel. Any clubs, pick up bars etc. I know the famous places in BJ such as Maggies, Suzie Wong etc but I doubt I am anywhere close to those places. Also given the BJ traffic, I doubt I can have a successful expedition out to any of these bars and bring home the goodies. During my last year stay, I had to fly in one of regulars from Hong Kong to BJ for 3 days. This time around I want to see some local action.
If anyone has any advice, it will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
F
Brooklyn Cyclone
06-10-12, 09:09
After my not-so-good experience from Mary from Angel, I got a surprise call. Not from any fellow members in this forum, but from nobody other than Angel herself! Didn't know she is a regular reader of this forum. I don't know how she tracked me down but anyway she apologized and promised would send someone better next time.
So I decided to give it another try. This time Angel recommended Snow. Snow arrived a little bit late, got stuck in traffic for a while. Angel called to let me know about the delay. I was not very happy with the delay but it is Beijing, there is nothing anybody could do about it. At least customer service was good. When Snow eventually arrived, I was happy to see her so all the unpleasant feeling about the delay went out of the window. We sat on the sofa and started chatting. Snow's English is very good. Chatting soon let to touching and kissing and I put my hands under her dress and started moving around. She suggested showering together which I happily accepted. Once inside shower, more kissing and my hands were all over her body. I asked for some BBBJ in the shower and she agreed. She started moaning when my hand reached her bottom sensitive area. Even in the shower I could feel she already got wet.
We dried up quickly and headed for the bed. Once in the bed, we could not help ourselves but started DFK and touching each other. She picked up where she left off in the shower with more BBBJ. I had to ask her to stop after a while to avoid popping it in her mouth. I am not a normal DATY person but with Snow it came naturally. She really enjoyed it and started moaning louder and louder. I tried to go inside her with my xiaodidi but she stopped me and said "condom". I tried to convince her no but she was pretty firm on that. I agreed and she put it on, with her mouth! I started with missionary position. She was very cooperating and held onto me really tight. Few times she wrapped her legs around me and started helping me push. Few times I could see her face turned red and she held on to me, with her arms and legs really really tight. Normally I would try different positions but with her I didn't want to change to any other position so I could see her facial expression and boobs bouncing up and down. Eventually I got so tired so asked her to get on top, which she happily agreed. Once we finished, both of us were exhausted. I think this was the longest time I lasted for a while. Snow lied next to me and grabbed my hand to touch her bottom area to show me how wet she got. We almost felt asleep until her phone rang. We showered together one more time and she left.
This was a much better experience than previous one.
Face: 7.
Body: 8.
ML: 10.
GFE: 10
So after two tries with Angel, I think it really depends on chemistry with the girl. I am happy with Angel's customer service. Seems like she has quite a few different girls so selection-wise would be easy, as long as you tell her the requirements clearly.
Brooklyn Cyclone
06-10-12, 09:11
After my not-so-good experience from Mary from Angel, I got a surprise call. Not from any fellow members in this forum, but from nobody other than Angel herself! Didn't know she is a regular reader of this forum. I don't know how she tracked me down but anyway she apologized and promised would send someone better next time.
So I decided to give it another try. This time Angel recommended Snow. Snow arrived a little bit late, got stuck in traffic for a while. Angel called to let me know about the delay. I was not very happy with the delay but it is Beijing, there is nothing anybody could do about it. At least customer service was good. When Snow eventually arrived, I was happy to see her so all the unpleasant feeling about the delay went out of the window. We sat on the sofa and started chatting. Snow's English is very good. Chatting soon let to touching and kissing and I put my hands under her dress and started moving around. She suggested showering together which I happily accepted. Once inside shower, more kissing and my hands were all over her body. I asked for some BBBJ in the shower and she agreed. She started moaning when my hand reached her bottom sensitive area. Even in the shower I could feel she already got wet.
We dried up quickly and headed for the bed. Once in the bed, we could not help ourselves but started DFK and touching each other. She picked up where she left off in the shower with more BBBJ. I had to ask her to stop after a while to avoid popping it in her mouth. I am not a normal DATY person but with Snow it came naturally. She really enjoyed it and started moaning louder and louder. I tried to go inside her with my xiaodidi but she stopped me and said "condom". I tried to convince her no but she was pretty firm on that. I agreed and she put it on, with her mouth! I started with missionary position. She was very cooperating and held onto me really tight. Few times she wrapped her legs around me and started helping me push. Few times I could see her face turned red and she held on to me, with her arms and legs really really tight. Normally I would try different positions but with her I didn't want to change to any other position so I could see her facial expression and boobs bouncing up and down. Eventually I got so tired so asked her to get on top, which she happily agreed. Once we finished, both of us were exhausted. I think this was the longest time I lasted for a while. Snow lied next to me and grabbed my hand to touch her bottom area to show me how wet she got. We almost felt asleep until her phone rang. We showered together one more time and she left.
This was a much better experience than previous one.
Face: 7.
Body: 8.
ML: 10.
GFE: 10
So after two tries with Angel, I think it really depends on chemistry with the girl. I am happy with Angel's customer service. Seems like she has quite a few different girls so selection-wise would be easy, as long as you tell her the requirements clearly.
I haven't tried other outcall service yet. Does anyone have any opinion on Angel vs others?
I also gave Mary a try and overall it was quite good. She's a sexy young girl and nice personality. Body and face like in her profile photo. We had a great session though some whinning towards the end about the session lasting too long. Good oral skills and breast massage. Playful. Angel was prompt and helpful re arrangements and gave a follow up SMS to inquire about the service quality.
Just arrived Beijing from Shanghai for less than a week. Read through forum and seems like Beijing has no sauna at all and has outcall services only. Is it true?
Finally decided to try Angel after reading few good reviews. Called the number and asked for someone with big boob and skinny. I hate sometimes when I only say big boob and they send over people with waistline bigger than mine. They suggested Mary. I looked at the picture and said she seemed a bit overweight. They promise she is under 50kg. I said ok. About 45 min later my phone rang. I went downstairs to pick her up. Looks more or less same as picture, which was a good sign. Got back into the room. She asked to shower, but by herself. I showered afterwards. By the time I finished, she was in the bed with towel on. After some chitchat. I speak Chinese. We got down to business. First some kissing on nipples, then BBBJ. After a minute or two, she took out the umbrella and put it on. I asked for more BJ and she agreed, but over protection. Then the main course. Tried few different positions. She kind of complained, which I didn't like. Did let me DFK though. I am not a DATY person but got a feeling she might say no anyway. Once finished, she asked me to shower. I thought together since now we "know" each other but she just washed face and rinsed mouth. Then put on clothes and was ready to go.
Overall I will would say:
Face:5. If I go to KTV I will not pick her based on face.
Body:6. I am a boob person. She has decent boob but a little fat around waist.
Attitude:6. Didn't like the rushing to leave part.
GFE:4. We started talking on the bed but she actually asked to get on with business.
Total Damage: 600.
I have to say I am a bit disappointed. In other cities I could get an awesome FS in a sauna for anywhere between 60-90 limits and unlimited shots. Now I am thinking if I should try Angel one more time and ask for someone else or contact other service providers next time. Fiona seems to have good review but a bit pricey. Any suggestions?
Guys, I want to give back some info as I got lots for my first BJ visit here.
I was / am in Bejing for a week for business. Arriving weekend the first thing to notice is that they try to rip you off with taxis, tuktuks etc as much as you can. Even if you are suspicious from other asia trips!
So first of all make sure to have the exact fare, that 13 money means 13 yuan and NOT 13 dollars or 30 or 130. They try everthing.
With my asia girl I for example paid 50RMB almost from airport, without her you pay 100 or 150. As they leave you standing in the city and refuse to go by taximeter. If you know the real price and they try to trick you this is of course a hassle. Or you do not care about the few bucks.
Think abou it beforehand.
So, to our hobby:
I followed the BJ beginner guides in here and started by texting some of the classified in China daily online.
Don't do it! As said in the report, girls are not the one in the pictures, email and text response appear to be the same for all "different" girls.
The one who came was average. Asked 300&100 taxi just for regular massage with cloths on. 800 for happy ending, and 1200 for sex. Completely crazy as email stated 800 for xxx for the girl from picture.
I called boss, but "no english". I threw her out, gave her 200- for taxi and time and took the rest of the money from her wallet directly. AWFUL!
Almost being fed up with BJ after a few hours (I forgot to mention that I just landed from europe and also had a serious jetleg. I finally decided to try to find barbershops or THE PIG and THISTLE (beginners guide BJ)
Barbershops and shopping centers was a 0. At least I did not see anything of interest.
So finally I "bribed" a taxi to bring me to the PIG. Actually, really far out, cheapest deal I found in1hr asking drivers was 100- RMB, of course without taximeter again.
In THE PIG, for happy our at 6am. Zero girls. 2 guys.
I decided to try the hotel sauna or massage and rest a bit to try later. Yet, sauna you can only buy a 10x ticket (and sounded like many children playing in pool) , and massage. Of course you can choose a nice 1hr massage for 300RMB, but NO massage girls on duty!
Oh man, I really got depressed. Not my day I thought and went for dinner in a thai resteraunt. There finally a super hottie. Tall, slim, niiice. Of course with a Chinese guy yet.
Still, energy came back to my body.
Before leaving back to BJ (30min ride) I decided to check a last time in The PIG. And guess what. 8pm and only 5 girls. All friends sitting all over the bar. The worst came after a minute, starting talking in avg englsih.
We chatted a bit and I scanned the others. Indeed one appeared nice. Very sexy body, perhaps 20-25yr.
I asked my girl if she is a friend and if she can send her over. She was very surprised, very shy. And very sweet.
After a few minutes talking she asked me if I want a girl tonight. I said yes if she is so sweet then her. She was immediately starting touching me, also very insecure. Actually I liked that.
I said I life far from here and would stay longer (2 weeks) and want her at least 2hrs. She asked ME the price. I said 800RMB 2 hrs, she said no no. 1hr 800RMB. We decided on 1200- and no extra taxi money.
I know, rather expensive, but I think the value you currently pay for a nice girl in BJ for full programme. (reading posts here, and asking at night on street, prics vary 800-1500 for massage with sex, to sex with superhot for one hour.)
Anyways going back by cap, with <50RMB, she started pampering and even kissing. In the hotel (without registering. No prob) she laid on bed and did the GFE. I undressed her, she me.
Her body was unbelievable! Super sexy, solid ass, nice long legs. Wooow. For sex she was completely into it, became wet without the unsexy gels. And seemed to really enjoy. We did all positions, until I had a really great ending. In her. Of course with condom, which ai brought.
Thereafter we chatted using mobile phones (translation function worked really good with the girls) and had really good time. Going to see her again. Hope to able to also have her show me the city and help to get a bit LESS Touristy feeling here.
Does anybody have experience how to do that best? How to proceed and what to pay her from now on? I hope just paying food, etc during day does suffice.
I definitely do not want to afford a 1200- daily the next days.
I read that longterm might give better deals. Hope this is true!
So thats it so far. Here for 5 more days.
*
Anybody in BJ right now? Interested to meet for a joint hunt or exchange of hobby insiders?
*
Best Aljoscha
Guys,
Any input on my posting below?
Many thanks.So, I am just across the street also looking for action. We could try together: sunworld hotel beijing.
Cheers, A.
Hi,
I read about the club below and thought might go there a few hours before going home to Europe. It anyway appears to be on the way to the airport.
Does anybody have experiences if that club is really that good and to recommend? And perhaps someone knows the opening hours?
Cheers A.
I always tell people NOT TO go to a KTV, unless they are NOT into S, they are truly invited, they are into singing (and why not)
For S in BJ, bathouses. Also called SPA- are the places where to go. They come in all shapes, all styles, all sizes, and all qualities.
Some are mix, some are not, some are mix but genders only meet in the restaurant, internet area, common massage rooms, and private (VIP) rooms or course. But not in the bath area.
Bathouses / SPA are places where hookers live indeed.
Those buildings, for the luxurious one, have up to 6 floors (to my knowledge) and on one of those floors S happens full throttle!
I know a couple in BJ, and I will recommend you this one. I went there twice, was invited twice.
Located right by one exit of North 5th ring road, exit Xing Shi Kou Lu (Road) Bridge, South side, meaning toward BJ.
This 'BLOSSOM SEASONS INTERANTIONAL CLUB' (Yes they spelled it INTERANTIONAL on their card) Tel: 010-62856285 (but paid heavy RMB to get their fugshui telephone number) has to be tried once.
Open 24h / 7/7, S happens on the second floor that is 2F.
When arriving in the 5* stars lobby, precised that you want a room on the 2F.
No need to say more at all, trust me.
You will be guided to the. 1F, get into your birthday suit, grab a towel if you feel like it, and there you will enjoy indoor / outdoor bath, rubbing massage (+ extra fee) , sauna, swimming pool.
Up to 1F, you have the restaurant, internet area, a gymnasium where to play badminton, table tennis, and this is where the mix massage rooms or common area are located.
2F is a different deal, you are indeed in a hotel 5.
All rooms come with full bath, WC, TV, sofa and a table to play games.
One double bed or two double beds.
2 kinds of massage girls are available.
The one that goes for S and the one that do not.
780RMB will give you a FS girl for 50mn. Then it is 1200/2h. 2200/3 hours.
Girls are pretty, tall, healthy, with ass and breasts.
Here few the links for directions:
North 5th ring road, exit at Xing Shi Kou Road.
Building located around number 89 on the map.
Busses: exit at &24040; &23665; &20892; &22330; Haidian, &37038; &25919; &32534; &30721; : 100093.
No. 347&36335; .489&36335; .505&36335; .664&36335; , &36816; &36890; 101&36335;
Link to Panoramio:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/51452361
Right entrance a private restaurant, middle entrance SPA / Bathouse (this is where you go) , left entrance body and skin care.
Blossom Seasons Clubmore:
89&21495; Xingshikou Road.
Haidian, Beijing, China. 100093.
Another tel: 010-62598111.
V. I. P: 010-82593339.
Link to map:
https://plus.google.com/111101752686945052167/about?hl=en
Link to website:
http://www.minghuasiji.com/
(thanks for allowing links)
There you are safe.
Yes it is a remote place from downtown, and who cares for freedom & comfort have no price. LOL.
You can sleep there, keep the room all night, You can use it as your own hotel.
I have just heard that they now have a VIP restaurant.
Does somebody have the number of Angel and can you get photos before she sends somebody?
Cheers!
Seekingals
06-11-12, 08:43
I haven't tried other outcall service yet. Does anyone have any opinion on Angel vs others?For outcall service, I would strongly recommend Kitty. Below was the experience of SteelBaton, an active senior member on this board, with one of Kitty's talent. And I had several very nice experiences a few months ago as well.
BTW, the damage is 600, including 100 transportation, and you can find Kitty's contact on 'Classified Ads' under 'China'.
Seekingals.
Ultimately, Sally was available and she arrived in the early afternoon at my hotel door, right on time. Wow, she is a great looking package. About 5` 3' in a form fitting pink knit dress that highlighted her tiny waist and reasonable-sized tits. Nice white silk blouse. She was dressed very nice, sexy but classy. Kitty had said 44 kgs and she sure looked that tight. She said she was born in 1990 which checked with her promoted age of 21/22. Beautiful Mongolian face with high cheek bones, nice white teeth, and a nice smile. Pale skin. Of the three outcalls I'the received this 4 day trip she was definitely the best looking overall.
Invited her in, took her coat, treated her like a lady and offered her some food and something to drink. All without pawing her (like I am prone to do with a hot girl!). We chatted, as much as one can considering she spoke no English and me no Chinese, let alone Mongolian. Some gentle kissing and then suggested she shower.
I couldn't wait to see what was underneath that pink dress. Long story made a little shorter: she has a super-tight young body that you could bounce a coin off of. For fun (my new twist) I put her on the bathroom scale and she came in at 44. 1 kgs (about 97 lbs.). Very petite. She has a nice little set of tits with really long, almost droopy pinkish nipples. Pale skin. Her pussy was especially exciting to me as it is lightly furred (by current China standards) but all the hair is above her pubis bone and her lips are clean and beautiful.
She showered and came out to give me a sweet cuddle and hug as we settled into the bed. Great BBBJ. Super tight pussy. Lots of good chemistry with her as I took it easy. Sucked me for 10 minutes and I would say perhaps the best under 25's BJ I've had in China in the past few years – nowhere near as good as New Zealand or Australia, but pretty damn good for a Chinese 21 yr old. Nice DATY on a fresh young pussy. Good sex in the usual positions, great ass that bears doggy to appreciate. While one-finger tight, she can handle a western dick if you take it slowly.
Summary:
Face: 8/10, long red / black hair as the fashion seems to be now.
Body: 9/10, great ass for an Asian, totally tight zero fat body, light skin.
Tits: B, firm, some possibility of small implants no idea why, but felt a little too firm (?) Great nipples, a nice little handful
BBBJ skills: solid 9/10 on the under 25 China scale, no DT but good interest and plenty of time.
FS: 9/10 tight cu*nt, willing in lots of positions.
GFE: 8/10 considering her young age.
Service: 9/10.
WIR: every day of the week!
Damage: 600 + 200 tip (again excess perhaps, but she was great!)
Conclusion: Sally is a truly pretty young girl with a hot body, nice personality, and outstanding BBBJ skills. One of the best that I have found in China. Treat her nice, please, she'the be my great regular GF. Great hardworking service by Kitty.
PS. I know someone will think this report is too positive and that I am working for Kitty or something. That's cool please don't use the outcall services – more for the rest of us. But, if you read my reports you will see that they are thorough and both positive and negative points and I use multiple outcall providers, so I am not shilling for one. But, if you like them a bit older, well-trained, lots more GFE and like a chance to get to know their personalities then Maggies or one of the bars is probably a better choice.
Hi,
I read about the club below and thought might go there a few hours before going home to Europe. It anyway appears to be on the way to the airport.
Does anybody have experiences if that club is really that good and to recommend? And perhaps someone knows the opening hours?
Cheers A.Note that this club is NOT on the way to the main airport. The airport in the picture is the old military airport. If you zoom way out you will see that the club is located in the far west side of Beijing.
I don't know anything else about it, but don't think you are going to hit this place on your way out of town.
Sammy
AverageAsian
06-12-12, 02:54
Hey guys I'm new here and this is my first post. I'm going to be arriving in Beijing in about a week to teach English for the summer and I will be living very close to Xinjiekou station on subway line 4. I've been to Beijing a few times before and have an ok understanding of the city location-wise. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me and give me some advice on where to get good WG's around my area or other places. Barbershops, massage parlours or agency service is what I'm looking for. I'm mostly looking to spend under 300 rmb for a quick FS, not overnight or anything like that. Might drop 600 rmb once or twice for a decent agency escort. One question: for agencies, is it possible to go the girl's place rather than to have her come to me?
Thanks guys.
Gualtier Malde
06-12-12, 09:09
I live in Beijing and have almost never encountered the problems you describe with taxis. The real taxis anyway (the ones that look like taxis and have meters) are generally operating by the book.
The things you call "tuktuks" in Beijing are called "mó dī", which loosely means "motorcycle taxi", though the characters do not mean that. They are illegal, and sometimes dangerous. The drivers do not heed the traffic rules, and the vehicles themselves can be rickety.
Couple of pointers about taxis: They should always turn on their meter. I have only ever had one taxi driver not follow the rules, and in that case he tried to negotiate a rate before we started moving. I immediately got out of the vehicle. An additional step you can take in that situation is to take a photo of the driver's license, posted on the passenger side front seat. When they see you do that they will quickly follow the rules, because they know that means you are going to report them.
Neither have I ever had a taxi short me on change. Nor have I ever had a taxi try to convince me to pay in US dollars."Bribing" taxi drivers? What are you talking about? Just get in, tell them where you want to go, and go. (But you need to use Chinese, these guys are hopeless with English, and not very good with maps.)
There are illegal taxis here, called "black taxis". They are unmarked cars with a light (usually red LED) hanging from their inside mirror. All bets are off with these guys, but if you are an experienced local, you can sometimes get a good ride for a decent price, but you are taking big risks. I've taken black cabs from my local subway station to my home, but the distance is short, about 1. 5km, and I am acquainted with most of the drivers. I don't recommend them for longer trips.
With a modi, you are pretty much on your own in terms of negotiation and risk. But typical modi should charge you no more than 5RMB to go one or two "Beijing blocks" (big blocks). If the distance is three or more "Beijing blocks", you can figure they will want 10RMB. You are nuts to go further than that in a modi, the wheels will probably fall off, or you will die of carbon monoxide poisoning.
The Pig is hit or miss at 6pm as you discovered (I assume you meant PM. 6am would be a particularly bad time to try the Pig). Give it a little more time.
GM.
Guys, I want to give back some info as I got lots for my first BJ visit here.
I was / am in Bejing for a week for business. Arriving weekend the first thing to notice is that they try to rip you off with taxis, tuktuks etc as much as you can. Even if you are suspicious from other asia trips!
So first of all make sure to have the exact fare, that 13 money means 13 yuan and NOT 13 dollars or 30 or 130. They try everthing.
With my asia girl I for example paid 50RMB almost from airport, without her you pay 100 or 150. As they leave you standing in the city and refuse to go by taximeter. If you know the real price and they try to trick you this is of course a hassle. Or you do not care about the few bucks.
Think abou it beforehand.
So, to our hobby:
I followed the BJ beginner guides in here and started by texting some of the classified in China daily online.
Don't do it! As said in the report, girls are not the one in the pictures, email and text response appear to be the same for all "different" girls.
The one who came was average. Asked 300&100 taxi just for regular massage with cloths on. 800 for happy ending, and 1200 for sex. Completely crazy as email stated 800 for xxx for the girl from picture.
I called boss, but "no english". I threw her out, gave her 200- for taxi and time and took the rest of the money from her wallet directly. AWFUL!
Almost being fed up with BJ after a few hours (I forgot to mention that I just landed from europe and also had a serious jetleg. I finally decided to try to find barbershops or THE PIG and THISTLE (beginners guide BJ)
Barbershops and shopping centers was a 0. At least I did not see anything of interest.
So finally I "bribed" a taxi to bring me to the PIG. Actually, really far out, cheapest deal I found in1hr asking drivers was 100- RMB, of course without taximeter again.
In THE PIG, for happy our at 6am. Zero girls. 2 guys.
I decided to try the hotel sauna or massage and rest a bit to try later. Yet, sauna you can only buy a 10x ticket (and sounded like many children playing in pool) , and massage. Of course you can choose a nice 1hr massage for 300RMB, but NO massage girls on duty!
Oh man, I really got depressed. Not my day I thought and went for dinner in a thai resteraunt. There finally a super hottie. Tall, slim, niiice. Of course with a Chinese guy yet.
Still, energy came back to my body.
Before leaving back to BJ (30min ride) I decided to check a last time in The PIG. And guess what. 8pm and only 5 girls. All friends sitting all over the bar. The worst came after a minute, starting talking in avg englsih.
We chatted a bit and I scanned the others. Indeed one appeared nice. Very sexy body, perhaps 20-25yr.
I asked my girl if she is a friend and if she can send her over. She was very surprised, very shy. And very sweet.
After a few minutes talking she asked me if I want a girl tonight. I said yes if she is so sweet then her. She was immediately starting touching me, also very insecure. Actually I liked that.
I said I life far from here and would stay longer (2 weeks) and want her at least 2hrs. She asked ME the price. I said 800RMB 2 hrs, she said no no. 1hr 800RMB. We decided on 1200- and no extra taxi money.
I know, rather expensive, but I think the value you currently pay for a nice girl in BJ for full programme. (reading posts here, and asking at night on street, prics vary 800-1500 for massage with sex, to sex with superhot for one hour.)
Anyways going back by cap, with <50RMB, she started pampering and even kissing. In the hotel (without registering. No prob) she laid on bed and did the GFE. I undressed her, she me.
Her body was unbelievable! Super sexy, solid ass, nice long legs. Wooow. For sex she was completely into it, became wet without the unsexy gels. And seemed to really enjoy. We did all positions, until I had a really great ending. In her. Of course with condom, which ai brought.
Thereafter we chatted using mobile phones (translation function worked really good with the girls) and had really good time. Going to see her again. Hope to able to also have her show me the city and help to get a bit LESS Touristy feeling here.
Does anybody have experience how to do that best? How to proceed and what to pay her from now on? I hope just paying food, etc during day does suffice.
I definitely do not want to afford a 1200- daily the next days.
I read that longterm might give better deals. Hope this is true!
So thats it so far. Here for 5 more days.
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Anybody in BJ right now? Interested to meet for a joint hunt or exchange of hobby insiders?
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Best Aljoscha
Hi everybody, some time ago I read of a member who was selling enhancing pills in Beijing for 100 yuan. I can't find the post anymore. Anybody can help me?
Thanks
Hi everybody, some time ago I read of a member who was selling enhancing pills in Beijing for 100 yuan. I can't find the post anymore. Anybody can help me?
ThanksCheck our Bro "Kajos". Perfect with "Vit C"
Gregory
The things you call "tuktuks" in Beijing are called "mó dī", which loosely means "motorcycle taxi", though the characters do not mean that. They are illegal, and sometimes dangerous. The drivers do not heed the traffic rules, and the vehicles themselves can be rickety.At the risk of being a complete pedant (always one of my failings) , I must point out that the characters for "modi" precisely mean "motorcycle taxi", in abbreviated form."mo" is the first character of "motuoche", a borrowed word of long standing, meaning motorcycle;"di" is the first character of "dishi", a word borrowed much more recently from English through Cantonese which means, you guessed it,"taxi". This latter is essentially colloquial, though becoming more acceptable, and finding its way into dictionaries, though the correct putonghua word for taxi is supposed to be chuzuqiche, or the slightly shorter chuzuche.
But, otherwise, I agree entirely with your point about taxis in Beijing. Like you, I've never had the kind of experiences the original poster described. The biggest problem with Beijing taxis is the relative scarcity over the last year or so, as drivers sort of withdraw their labour as a kind of passive protest over the low flagfall and taxi fees relative to petrol prices.
Thanks! I just reposted in the classifieds forum. Lots of satisfied Beijing members.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1292238&viewfull=1#post1292238
Check our Bro "Kajos". Perfect with "Vit C"
Gregory
Hi GM,
I've had it show ranges from 100m up to 3000m. This was when traveling out of town. I think it will fill up the "who's nearby" list with the nearest people until it reaches a limit. So if nobody is nearby it will show people who are far away. This is with the iPhone version. I think I've seen the Android version show as close as 50m. Can't remember. The accuracy depends on how recently your nearby people have refreshed. In general, the app seems accurage to about 300m when people are moving around. It seems consistently accurate for reporting the distance of my neighbors.
I've also had some real crazy rude responses from girls. Everything going fine until they figured out I wasn't local and then were really rude. On the other hand, I spend a lot of time with KTV girls who are consistently fishing for foreigners to chat and hook up with. I mean they have lists of hundreds of foreign guys that they cycle through and compare. They tend to like action-oriented guys with a sense of humor, not sappy chatty guys.
On the iPhone version I can select the girls' profile text for translation. I press and hold for about three seconds on the profile text and a "copy" action pops up. Perhaps this is only available by installing the Action Menu add-on through Cydia. Not sure. I can then paste into a translation app if needed.
For newbies, be aware that weixin will automatically make you and your profile text and photo available to anyone on your contact phone list who has weixin installed. If you have the newest version of weixin installed that has a gallery, the gallery photos are viewable to all. Your comments and conversations on photos are available to everyone you have "friended". In general, I suggest not wasting too much time on carrying on extended conversations on weixin. Just a short chat, ask for some photos, ask them out to dinner and see how it goes. There are plenty girls on there but also a lot of young ones who don't know what they want and will babble endlessly if you let them. Most of the hot for cock girls know exactly what they want and are waiting for an excuse to hook up.
It is definitely an amazingly useful piece of software for finding girls to hook up with. After playing with weixin for a few weeks I now leave it off most of the time because 1) I'm saturated with girls met through weixin and 2) it drains my iPhone battery quickly.
Kajos.
So, I installed WeChat. I have mixed feelings. First, it is addictive. It is cool to see who is nearby. The original poster was wrong about nearby distance. It will show people as close as 100 meters, not 1000 meters. That's quite close. But I don't know how accurate it is.
The "throw a bottle" feature is interesting. You toss out a random comment anyone can pick up. The analogy is putting a message in a bottle, see who picks it up. It can end up anywhere. I got a lot of responses from Thailand. Best to say in your note where you are, and who you want responses from.
One chick that showed up nearby was showing photos of her cleavage (modest) and her crotch. So I sent her a message that was quite direct. Her identity was "prettypartygirl" so I asked her if she wanted to party. Her response was immediate: "Shut up. Asshole." A bit of a temper!
I've had much happier chats with others.
One big surprise: right after installing it, I got hailed by a massage parlor girl I visit frequently near my home. I had no idea she was on WeChat.
Negative comments: You can't select text in the girls profiles for translation. So there is no way to tell what they are posting on their profile if you can't read Chinese. Chat is different. You can translate that text.
Worst feature: you cannot determine a person's age. I started a chat with someone, who had a photo of a baby as her profile photo. I asked why, and she said her Mom would not allow her to post a picture of her. I asked her age: 15. Immediate block.
Be careful out there.
GM.
Check our Bro "Kajos". Perfect with "Vit C"
Gregorythanks, I'll try and check it out.
Hi!
I am actually here for a few days and gathered all the Bejing info that I got gather. Unfortunately, it does not appear so easy to me.
The best which worked for me so far was the club "The Pig and Thistle English Club". However it is far out (30min ride; 50RBM) , outer NE 4th ring road.
Street girls are around the big hostels in the evening, however not too nice ones, and even if they send one up, there might be another one coming than you talked to on the street (happened yesterday; she was actually okay, but very passive, no touching allowed, no kissing. And stinking.)
I also asked for SPAs and SAUNAs as it is told it should be nice, but the Concierges in the hotel never could help me. And even if taking a massage at 3am nearby, there was no more than regular massage.
So I guess I will go back to the PIG (I met a great girl with a super experience there earlier) or simply the Sanlitun Area, there are all the bars, and girls are around. Yet, the really nice ones did not want to speak english, and the Chinese guys trying to help I do not trust.
So, perhaps you want to hit THE PIG tonight together, I am near Forbidden City in Sunworld Hotel.
Can anybody help HOW TO FIND a nice SPA, Sauna (or even barbershop) in the area?
Cheers A.
Hi Mates,
Run-up to Beijing. First timer, NO idea at all on mongering scene. Please guide me.
I have started browsing forum pages on bejing, but seniors always have best and short crisped notes.
Please share insights on Beijing. Anyone coming to India, Can ping me for help.
Inblr01
Thanks! I just reposted in the classifieds forum. Lots of satisfied Beijing members.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1292238&viewfull=1#post1292238I can be counted as one of Kajos satisfied customers. He is legit.
Cheers.
Sammy
Loveasiangirls
06-14-12, 06:02
Hi GM,
I've also had some real crazy rude responses from girls. Everything going fine until they figured out I wasn't local and then were really rude. On the other hand, I spend a lot of time with KTV girls who are consistently fishing for foreigners to chat and hook up with.
For newbies, be aware that weixin will automatically make you and your profile text and photo available to anyone on your contact phone list who has weixin installed. If you have the newest version of weixin installed that has a gallery, the gallery photos are viewable to all.
It is definitely an amazingly useful piece of software for finding girls to hook up with. After playing with weixin for a few weeks I now leave it off most of the time because 1) I'm saturated with girls met through weixin and 2) it drains my iPhone battery quickly.
Kajos.Rude? Maybe because they are not prostitutes and figured that this is what you are looking for. THis is very popular and probably 98% of people on it are just "normal"
If you are a local, your gf and all her friends will know you are on it. Use with care.
You are saturared with girls met on it but how many have you slept with? Easy to waste time on it.
Hi!
I am actually here for a few days and gathered all the Beijing info that I got gather. Unfortunately, it does not appear so easy to me.
The best which worked for me so far was the club "The Pig and Thistle English Club". However it is far out (30min ride; 50RBM) , outer NE 4th ring road.I think I was one of the 2 guys in the Pig your first night. I remember a European guy coming in, leaving, coming back, and then taking one of the "regulars". Those same 5 girls are there every night, usually arriving around 7 pm. They always approach the guys in the same order, giving the less attractive one the first shot. The one you picked is a sweet girl, but I don't think you will be able to get her down in price. Once they have you hooked there is little you can do, even for long time residents. For reference these girls will take 600 RMB for short time, but they will always try to get more. If you stick around the Pig until around 10 many more girls will show up, but the quality is nothing near what is was in the past.
It sounds like you are staying in the city center. If this is the case then you should check out Maggie's. It is much closer to the city center than The Pig. The only down side is that nothing gets started until midnight. You can always go early. The band starts at 10:30, and they are a proper bar, but a majority of the girls there early work for the bar and will not go home with you.
Saunas are very hit or miss these days. At first I thought only the saunas that looked run down would offer "extras", but I have found that even some 5 star places do. I have not been to a full service sauna in a while, so you will need to get recommendations from some of the other members.
AverageAsianGuy. Since you cannot bring a girl back to your place they a sauna is probably your best bet. You should go ahead and pay your membership fee so you can send private messages (PM). This way other members can send you addresses. Alot more information is traded via PM that is posted on this thread. You may also want to utilize one of the Chinese hotel chains like Home Inn. They are all over the city, and are usually cheap and clean.
Good luck in your search guys!
Sammy
"So, perhaps you want to hit THE PIG tonight together, I am near Forbidden City in Sunworld Hotel.
Can anybody help HOW TO FIND a nice SPA, Sauna (or even barbershop) in the area?
Cheers A.
Originally Posted by Inblr01 *[View Original Post]"
Alig.
You are also not far from workers stadium area nightspots.
For bbs walk up wangfujing, north, up meishuguan houjie and instead of following meishuguan houris left and right walk straight on into the houtong, you should find some bbs there, some can be very mercenary but also some syt at times. Enjoy the exploring and chase.
Teltwl
I live in Shanghai but go up to Beijing several times a year. Find a foot massage and / or a regular massage joint. While you are getting your feet done or back reach out to the girl. Hell maybe you like guys. Touch her, not her tit or her ass, smile, see what happens. Make a fist, stick a finger from your other hand into your fist. She will get the idea. If it's a guy doing your feet or back, and he isn't a blind guy, he / she will get the idea. Take out your phone, wait for them to give you a number or they will call someone and you give them your number. Spread out your hand making the universal 5. Some time later you will get a call. They all say they are beautiful. I don't care, passing looks will do for me. How the pussy works is much more important, and I don't like big floppy tits. I have 3 telephone number one of which is my favorite. I have fucked all of them. My favorite isn't the greatest looking girl. Her tits are barely a mouthful, her pussy tastes like nectar of the gods and she fucks me until I am done. Finished. Complete. Fucked out. We shower. I pay her 500. She leaves. Kissing me on the way out. No you can't have her number. Find your own. Great fucking is available in Beijing.
So I land in Beijing and in absence of any intelligence about places to monger near my hotel, I ran into this guy's posting.rather thesis on, The Blossom Spa. Here is my brief account of the night's proceedings. I was staying at Crowne Plaza Haidian which seem to be in the boonies. Anyhow I ask the bell boy to get a taxi to take me to Blossom Spa. I read such great things about the so called Sex on 2nd Floor that I had to check it out for myself. It was around 11PM now and no taxi driver had a F'and clue where this place was. The bell boy goes to the concierge and the smart guy prints a map. Now it's about midnight and taxis are hard to come by. Anyhow he goes out on the road in front of hotel and drags a taxi driver to take me to Blossom Spa. I slip a 50RMB to bell boy for job well done. Within 5-7 minutes of drive, I could see that taxis is in no man's land. I don't see street lights and no signs of tall buildings.nothing. But the driver seemed to know where he was going. Fine.I said let's see. In 20 minutes or so, on the right side, in the middle of pretty much nowhere I see the big Blossom Spa. I could feel the excitement building and at the same time I was trying to look past the fact that there will be no F'and taxi around at 2AM when I would leave the place.
Anyhow, as suggested in the posting, I enter from the middle entrance. The lighting is low, girl in short skirt greeting.I could feel the momentum building until I (and as suggested by the poster) told them I want a room on 2nd floor. Dead silence. No one understood a word of English and am surrounded by 5-6 guys girls with walkie talkies. I said no problem.said to them ni bu ming bai woh shoa sha ma? You don't understand what I say? And 5 heads nod in agreement. Fine. Pull out the smart phone and start typing on the translator app. Oh ok, now they understood. I even added, I am looking for a pretty miss. Hahahaa they say and next thing I know they want a 1000 RMB deposit. At this point the bell is ringing in my head.deposit for what? Then the next thing they want is I'd.and I was like huh? I had left the hotel with enough for round trip taxi and for the girl.as the poster said that the damage was around 700RMB. Ok at this point the manager chimes in, talks in Mandarin to the lady at desk who was asking for my credentials.and next thing I know he hands me a key and asks for deposit. I said fine and gives him 1000 RMB and the desk lady gives me the receipt. At this point, I knew that this is no f'and ordinary 'spa' as I had been to many in China. Now the walkie talkies are going off and there walks a cute ass girl dressed in black and short skirt, walkie talkie in hand and says to me.this way please. Now my hopes are UP again and it's finally going to happen. We get to second floor and something doesn't look right.the second floor is JUST LIKE A NORMAL HOTEL! Before I could ask her anything she keys me in and starts to leave (nice room by the way) and I was like whoa lady hang on! I wouldn't go in next 15 minutes of back and forth smart phone translator app exchange but the punch line is and PAY ATTENTION GUYS:
1. 2nd Floor is no F'and sex floor. It is a NORMAL HOTEL that costs around 800 RMB a night! (Hence 1000RMB deposit)
2. You can get the girl which is OF COURSE extra money.another 800 RMB.
So I stand there like a f'and idiot as to what the F am I doing here as I ALREADY have a room in Crowne Plaza and why should I pay almost 1600 RMB plus round trip taxi for a girl when I could have called a random outcall number from Craigslist. Not to brag but this is where my negotiation skills saved the day.I talked that cute ass girl to let me CHECK OUT at this minute and give me back my refund as I was totally misled into the whole thing. She starts her walkie talkie and next thing I hear from her OK OK and I was like PHEW!
Did it end there? N F W! Now it was after 1AM and not even donkey carts let alone taxi in sight. The cute ass girl to rescue again. Long story short, there she goes on her walkie talkie again and next thing I know hotel private car comes around. The driver has bad mutha fucka attitude.but her charm wins his hard ass. She says the driver will take me there. I was like that cute ass girl is heaven sent and if I could only pay her back with my hands, lips and jimmy! I shake her hand, slip her a 100 RMB and off we go. The driver asked for 40 which the girl had told me would be the cost.
I ended up with blue balls and a bad f'and taste in her mouth. If it weren't for the cute ass girl, this would have been the worse mongering expedition in China for me.
So there you have it.the skinny on Blossom Spa.
Blossom Seasons Club.
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Just read the report from Frankfurt and obviously was there just one day later; I had a completely different experience, although it may not be everybodies taste. Yet, as you read my report you can see that also I was not far from being ending in the nowhere. I simply believe they did not understand what Frankfurt wanted, as the club apperas very serious and high class! . And they seem to expect no Europeans in general.
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Okay, today I finally went to the Blossom Seasons Club. It really is far out of city (approx. 70 RbM with taximeter) and good to take the telephone number of the club as taxi drivers don't seem to find it alone.
When arriving everybody appeared very surprised what I am doing there (I mean a caucasian). After not letting me send home I convinced them after 10min to allow me to enter spa in basement, and made clear that I want to go to 2nd floor thereafter.
The club is a blast. Very luxurious and high class. So prepare to behave very well there, be quiet and drink delicious hot milk. Really.
I do not really know what they charge in detail in there, but around 100- for the various hot roots and? (whatever I ate there. To eat.
Once you are ready (note: everybody is naked in the spa area, and only men are allowed. Did NOT see a single non-Chinese there; and also nobody who speaks more than 2 words of english. You head up to the 2nd floor. BTW, perhaps thats the reason that the building says "Blossom Seasons Club", without the "international" part. There for sure is nothing international there, also the girls I saw (standing at the entrance in hotel like dresses) were all Chinese. (Can you know already choose the girl there or not at all!)
On the 2nd floor note immediatately that you want a first class girl ("number one girl"). I could not choose exactly which, and found no way to explain them. But anyways what they sent after saying "number one girl" was excellent. (I assume there are also other classes and prices for less pretty ones?)
A young Chinese girl, very nice skin, slim and sweet face.
It starts with a slow massage, very nice, after 30min it becomes a bit more erotic, and for me she started also giving a VERY sensual erotic massage which challenged my inhibition skills a lot. (after around 45min.) You pay 800 for 90min. Of course you will have a happy ending and the 90min appear to be respected sharp. So no stress once you arrive.
Yet I did not really figure out which (all?) girls would also have sex or even would get naked. I understood that my girl meant 1500- to have her be naked. But I did not get if this also includes 90min sex.
Can some insider clarify? . Guess thats not an insignificant information in the forum here!
Anyways, I did not even regret the 800- deal because it was soooo good, and she anyways was only wearing a short skirt and touching you with her body constantly. I of course also tried to touch her, she felt okay if I was very cautious. But resisted real kissing.
Again no idea what you are expected to do or not to do with the 800- package?
All in all my best experience also there was no intercourse and naked girls involved. It simply had class!
(BTW, the spa itself is already worth a couple of quiet, pampering hours: you can enjoy body scrub or sauna or water whirlpools there)
Cheers A.
So I land in Beijing and in absence of any intelligence about places to monger near my hotel, I ran into this guy's posting. Rather thesis on, The Blossom Spa. Here is my brief account of the night's proceedings. I was staying at Crowne Plaza Haidian which seem to be in the boonies. Anyhow I ask the bell boy to get a taxi to take me to Blossom Spa. I read such great things about the so called Sex on 2nd Floor that I had to check it out for myself. It was around 11PM now and no taxi driver had a F'and clue where this place was. The bell boy goes to the concierge and the smart guy prints a map. Now it's about midnight and taxis are hard to come by. Anyhow he goes out on the road in front of hotel and drags a taxi driver to take me to Blossom Spa. I slip a 50RMB to bell boy for job well done. Within 5-7 minutes of drive, I could see that taxis is in no man's land. I don't see street lights and no signs of tall buildings. Nothing. But the driver seemed to know where he was going. Fine. I said let's see. In 20 minutes or so, on the right side, in the middle of pretty much nowhere I see the big Blossom Spa. I could feel the excitement building and at the same time I was trying to look past the fact that there will be no F'and taxi around at 2AM when I would leave the place.
Anyhow, as suggested in the posting, I enter from the middle entrance. The lighting is low, girl in short skirt greeting. I could feel the momentum building until I (and as suggested by the poster) told them I want a room on 2nd floor. Dead silence. No one understood a word of English and am surrounded by 5-6 guys girls with walkie talkies. I said no problem. Said to them ni bu ming bai woh shoa sha ma? You don't understand what I say? And 5 heads nod in agreement. Fine. Pull out the smart phone and start typing on the translator app. Oh ok, now they understood. I even added, I am looking for a pretty miss. Hahahaa they say and next thing I know they want a 1000 RMB deposit. At this point the bell is ringing in my head. Deposit for what? Then the next thing they want is I'd. And I was like huh? I had left the hotel with enough for round trip taxi and for the girl. As the poster said that the damage was around 700RMB. Ok at this point the manager chimes in, talks in Mandarin to the lady at desk who was asking for my credentials. And next thing I know he hands me a key and asks for deposit. I said fine and gives him 1000 RMB and the desk lady gives me the receipt. At this point, I knew that this is no f'and ordinary 'spa' as I had been to many in China. Now the walkie talkies are going off and there walks a cute ass girl dressed in black and short skirt, walkie talkie in hand and says to me. This way please. Now my hopes are UP again and it's finally going to happen. We get to second floor and something doesn't look right. The second floor is JUST LIKE A NORMAL HOTEL! Before I could ask her anything she keys me in and starts to leave (nice room by the way) and I was like whoa lady hang on! I wouldn't go in next 15 minutes of back and forth smart phone translator app exchange but the punch line is and PAY ATTENTION GUYS:
1. 2nd Floor is no F'and sex floor. It is a NORMAL HOTEL that costs around 800 RMB a night! (Hence 1000RMB deposit)
2. You can get the girl which is OF COURSE extra money. Another 800 RMB.
So I stand there like a f'and idiot as to what the F am I doing here as I ALREADY have a room in Crowne Plaza and why should I pay almost 1600 RMB plus round trip taxi for a girl when I could have called a random outcall number from Craigslist. Not to brag but this is where my negotiation skills saved the day. I talked that cute ass girl to let me CHECK OUT at this minute and give me back my refund as I was totally misled into the whole thing. She starts her walkie talkie and next thing I hear from her OK OK and I was like PHEW!
Did it end there? N F W! Now it was after 1AM and not even donkey carts let alone taxi in sight. The cute ass girl to rescue again. Long story short, there she goes on her walkie talkie again and next thing I know hotel private car comes around. The driver has bad mutha fucka attitude. But her charm wins his hard ass. She says the driver will take me there. I was like that cute ass girl is heaven sent and if I could only pay her back with my hands, lips and jimmy! I shake her hand, slip her a 100 RMB and off we go. The driver asked for 40 which the girl had told me would be the cost.
I ended up with blue balls and a bad f'and taste in her mouth. If it weren't for the cute ass girl, this would have been the worse mongering expedition in China for me.
So there you have it. The skinny on Blossom Spa.
Thanks for the tip! May I ask where exactly the "workers stadium are nightspots" are? I think I saw a bunch of nice tall girls today on my home back by taxi. But only see Chinese street names for the street I believe it was. The straigt street from Sunworld Hotel (not Sunworld Dynasty) to Crown Plaza.
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You are also not far from workers stadium area nightspots.
For bbs walk up wangfujing, north, up meishuguan houjie and instead of following meishuguan houris left and right walk straight on into the houtong, you should find some bbs there, some can be very mercenary but also some syt at times. Enjoy the exploring and chase.
Teltwl
Hi Sammy!
Your post helps a lot. What a pity I am already leaving Saturday morning. But as you can see above, I did find a nice alternative, the Blossom Bottom Club.
And yes, you probably were the 2 guys I mentioned and I was the one coming in and going out. I even thought to say to you the sentence "Really a lot of girls in here.", but then thought no, those guys only do some business talking randomly in the hotel bar. Good sign that we cannot identify on first sight.
I will see how I conclude may Bejing trip. Meanwhile I head a few cool experiences. For nightlife one really has to recommend Magies and LAN-Club. VERY cool. Yet of course almost European like prices (see probably the most post and expensive in town). As I was there with big business parties there was not much point in hunting there the last days.
For the last night tomorrow Friday I will try the above mentioned "nightposts" as this is a bit of more adventure as you do not know what you get. And the girls are perhaps less professional and natural. I also was sitting next to the metro for half an hour today, sometimes unbelieveable tall and nice girls come out. Obviously also with parfume and well dressed. I tried to see if they respond to smile but there was little, at least not that I felt invited. This might also be worth a try, just for the fun and training aspect of it.
BTW, I tried to text and even call the girl from THE PIG for another meeting. And even dinner or so, but she never responded. Was really great with her, but perhaps I frightened her with my warm and fuzzy nature. Any experience with those girls when you want to meet them up again?
Have a good time,
Sammy are you resident here for the moment?
Cheers A.
I think I was one of the 2 guys in the Pig your first night. I remember a European guy coming in, leaving, coming back, and then taking one of the "regulars". Those same 5 girls are there every night, usually arriving around 7 pm. They always approach the guys in the same order, giving the less attractive one the first shot. The one you picked is a sweet girl, but I don't think you will be able to get her down in price. Once they have you hooked there is little you can do, even for long time residents. For reference these girls will take 600 RMB for short time, but they will always try to get more. If you stick around the Pig until around 10 many more girls will show up, but the quality is nothing near what is was in the past.
It sounds like you are staying in the city center. If this is the case then you should check out Maggie's. It is much closer to the city center than The Pig. The only down side is that nothing gets started until midnight. You can always go early. The band starts at 10:30, and they are a proper bar, but a majority of the girls there early work for the bar and will not go home with you.
Saunas are very hit or miss these days. At first I thought only the saunas that looked run down would offer "extras", but I have found that even some 5 star places do. I have not been to a full service sauna in a while, so you will need to get recommendations from some of the other members.
AverageAsianGuy. Since you cannot bring a girl back to your place they a sauna is probably your best bet. You should go ahead and pay your membership fee so you can send private messages (PM). This way other members can send you addresses. Alot more information is traded via PM that is posted on this thread. You may also want to utilize one of the Chinese hotel chains like Home Inn. They are all over the city, and are usually cheap and clean.
Good luck in your search guys!
Sammy
In Beijing for a night and thought I'd ring up Angel as she's heavily recommended by fellow mongers. She lives up to her reputation. Asked for a small girl perhaps with some English. She recommend Xiao Yue. To my surpirse, she arrived 30 mins earlier while I was away! I'm at some fancy hotel. So had to come downstairs and escort her up. Not something I like doing.
Anyway. Long story short. She gives one mean BBBJ that went for 20 mins. I was fairly tired after a day of traveling and sped things up a bit after the BBBJ and finished in misisonary. She was a sport. Showered me afterwards and soon said her goodbye.
WIR. Possibly, but would take Angel's suggestion of better option. Or may be mix two girls. XY for the BBBJ and another for all the rest.
Angel followed up later at night. Since I'm flying out tonight, will have to wait for my next trip to taste other goodies.
No, just rude because they don't like foreigners. I usually only use Chinese in Weixin and I can be mistaken for a local from my profile photo. But whatever.
Slept with more then enough girls from weixin. Massage girls, bar girls, KTV girls (including the Purple Crystal girls) , and "normal" girls. It's by far the easiest way for me to find freebies. A lot of the KTV girls are on weixin in the early morning, starting around 1 or 2 am when they get off work.
Rude? Maybe because they are not prostitutes and figured that this is what you are looking for. THis is very popular and probably 98% of people on it are just "normal"
If you are a local, your gf and all her friends will know you are on it. Use with care.
You are saturared with girls met on it but how many have you slept with? Easy to waste time on it.
SE Asia Joe
06-15-12, 07:44
So I land in Beijing and in absence of any intelligence about places to monger near my hotel, I ran into this guy's posting. Rather thesis on, The Blossom Spa. Here is my brief account of the night's proceedings.
So there you have it. The skinny on Blossom Spa.LOL!
Well, I DID try to warn y'all as below!
This guy also tried in the past to peddle a bar he worked at.
SEAJ
post #8809
Why is the Beijing thread always getting inundated by guerilla marketers?
The perennial Angels and Crystals and whatever escort services, now even massage parlours?
SEAJ
No, just rude because they don't like foreigners. I usually only use Chinese in Weixin and I can be mistaken for a local from my profile photo. But whatever.
Slept with more then enough girls from weixin. Massage girls, bar girls, KTV girls (including the Purple Crystal girls) , and "normal" girls. It's by far the easiest way for me to find freebies. A lot of the KTV girls are on weixin in the early morning, starting around 1 or 2 am when they get off work.Man, we need to sit down and have you help me identify which girls seem like the easier sort to chat up in Weixin. Haha.
Thanks for the tip! May I ask where exactly the "workers stadium are nightspots" are? I think I saw a bunch of nice tall girls today on my home back by taxi. But only see Chinese street names for the street I believe it was. The straigt street from Sunworld Hotel (not Sunworld Dynasty) to Crown Plaza.Whilst I do not frequent those nightspots they are in and around the stadium area, clubs such as cocobanana spring to mind.
Workers stadium area would be roughly northeast of where you are.
A search on workers stadium would produce relevant information from those of us that know the ropes better there.
Sorry cannot be more helpful, besides a livein gf and visits to the local bbs I do not often ow get in to central Beijing.
Teltwl
Thanks for the tip! May I ask where exactly the "workers stadium are nightspots" are? I think I saw a bunch of nice tall girls today on my home back by taxi. But only see Chinese street names for the street I believe it was. The straigt street from Sunworld Hotel (not Sunworld Dynasty) to Crown Plaza.The main bar area is called "San lu tun" which is actually a street name. There is a big shopping center called "The Village" on sanlutun. A good bar there is called "Swing":
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=WGgWbF%2B%2BxHs%3D
The Worker's Stadium is located west of Sanlutun:
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=qkbosln6Yws%3D
There are several bars located around the worker's stadium. You can tell a taxi "guan ti bei mar". This will take you to the north gate where you will find Mix & Vix. Lot's of girls here late night, but caters to a young crowd.
You may also want to check out Xiu Bar on the 6th floor of the Park Hyatt hotel:
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=TgP66J_jJKU%3D
The links above are from:
http://www.mobilenative.com/
This site is good for finding various locations in Beijing (I think it now also covers Shanghai).
Good Luck!
Sammy
BTW, I tried to text and even call the girl from THE PIG for another meeting.
Sammy are you resident here for the moment?Yes, I have been living in Beijing for several years. I have all of the Pig girls numbers, but do not want to post openly on the forum. I am happy to share via PM, but it seems you are not a paid member. Try her again. She typically starts working around 7 and may have just been sleeping.
I would love to meet up with you tonight, but I already have plans. If you get back to Beijing please let me know.
Good Luck!
Sammy
Loveasiangirls
06-15-12, 23:02
Sammy's advice is always good but just to avoid confusion or the confused look of a taxi driver I just want to point out that it is Sanlitun rather than Sanlutun. And Workers stadium north gate is Gongti bei men (or mer with the Beijing accent!) rather than guangti.
The main bar area is called "San lu tun" which is actually a street name. There is a big shopping center called "The Village" on sanlutun. A good bar there is called "Swing":
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=WGgWbF%2B%2BxHs%3D
The Worker's Stadium is located west of Sanlutun:
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=qkbosln6Yws%3D
There are several bars located around the worker's stadium. You can tell a taxi "guan ti bei mar". This will take you to the north gate where you will find Mix & Vix. Lot's of girls here late night, but caters to a young crowd.
You may also want to check out Xiu Bar on the 6th floor of the Park Hyatt hotel:
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=TgP66J_jJKU%3D
The links above are from:
http://www.mobilenative.com/
This site is good for finding various locations in Beijing (I think it now also covers Shanghai).
Good Luck!
Sammy
Gualtier Malde
06-18-12, 02:42
Man, we need to sit down and have you help me identify which girls seem like the easier sort to chat up in Weixin. Haha.It is damn easy to strike up conversations on WeChat that lead somewhere. I now have so many threads going I can't keep them all straight. One young married girl (25) started chatting with me last week. She started out highly conservative, expressing shock any time the conversation even hinted at anything beyond "office chatter". But by about the third time we were chatting, she was agreeing to meet me at a hotel, and even laid out her fantasy.
Another one contacted me, immediately started making provocative suggestions. She is 19, and a party girl. You might run into her at Xiu, she says she likes to go there. Likes to pick up guys in their 30s-40s. Likes to fuck, likes girls (she said she likes girls with big eyes and round faces).
Just make sure the chick you chat with is over 18.
GM.
I got in around 10 and settle in to ibis jianguomen by 11. SMS Angel and she send over a 24yr girl next door type. She was good but I still can't sleep and really want to try mongolian girls left so I made my way to Maggie's (within walking distance, less than 2min cab ride). I am asian (Chinese, ABC) so the guard ask me where I am from and let me. Talent is not bad so the 1st girl I take ask for 3k. I told her she is crazy. Finally settle with a 21yr mongolian for the night. She ask for 2k but came down to 1. 5k and I was running out of the time (7am flight) so I didn't bargain too hard. She said she can't walk out with me because some of the bar rule. I guess the bar don't like girls to go out with Chinese looking guy. I said fine. I will wait outside of the hotel since key card is needed for the elevator. She showed up in taxi 10min after me. We went up together and the reception didn't say anything. She won't do BBBJ but very GFE. She stay until 5am which 1 pop is all I was looking for. Like to revisit Maggie's when I have more time next time. May be I can negotiate a better price.
Loveasiangirls
06-18-12, 13:08
Just make sure the chick you chat with is over 18.
GM.Just make sure the chick you chat with is not a guy! Haha.
Dear Friends,
During my previous stay in Beijing, I was strolling around the hotel I was staying (Holiday Inn Chang an West) at and there was a KTV type of lounge downstairs.
There were lots of girls dressed in white skirts and white shirts, most of them very pretty I must add, and at times they were all disappearing into rooms. There wasnt anyone, including waiters, who spoke english so I couldn't figure out what was going on. Nobody seemed to care I was there, nobody asked me or offered me anything.
Could someone please explain to me the this concept? What is going on?
I checked out the place almost every night but everynight it was the same deal.
Just one night, there was a short dance show, approx. 30 minutes by a group of European girls, very likely Slavic. They were brought by a minibus, completed their dance show and left the hotel immediately.
Are these girls stricly dancers or is it possible to find also Russian&Eastern European girls in Beijing who are professionals (for our purposes). If so, how can we get a hold of them and what is their price range?
Finally, I will be coming to Beijing again next week and I would like to request a reliable contact who can come to outcall to my hotel room. (I only speak English)
Thank you.
Trawlerman
06-19-12, 02:08
Well, I know one can't tell much for a sample of one or two, but for what it is worth, I've recently had two very good experiences from Angel's girls. Both were young and cute with curvy bodies, and the second one was particularly hot. Really into the sex. Also tried Sophie's with not so positive results. Still not bad, but the girl was less responsive, less comfortable with the situation, perhaps. Also, I was told by Sophie that I was getting a particular girl on the website but the (different) one who arrived didn't even bother to lie about her name. All three were from Sichuan. No English at all, but I communicated with Angel and Sophie in Chinese, and I got the impression that this gave access to a greater range. A nice aspect of these outcall services is that there is no hassle at all about money. A straight 600 does the deal.
Dear Friends,
During my previous stay in Beijing, I was strolling around the hotel I was staying (Holiday Inn Chang an West) at and there was a KTV type of lounge downstairs.
There were lots of girls dressed in white skirts and white shirts, most of them very pretty I must add, and at times they were all disappearing into rooms. There wasn't anyone, including waiters, who spoke english so I couldn't figure out what was going on. Nobody seemed to care I was there, nobody asked me or offered me anything.
Could someone please explain to me this concept? What is going on?Sounds like you figured it out. It was a KTV. The girls in the uniforms were the singing girls. They were going into rooms and being picked by guys to sit and sing / drink with them. What happens after that is dependent upon the particular KTV. KTV is more of a group activity, but if they have a common room where they do a show (as you indicate below) you might be able to get a girl to sit with you and chat. Some of the girls may be willing to go back to your room with you, but it is doubtful you will be able to make this happen unless they speak English, or you speak some Chinese. If you are not familiar with the KTV scene I suggest taking a look at my Beginner's guide to Beijing, which has a general description of the process (link at the end of this post).
I checked out the place almost every night but every night it was the same deal.
Just one night, there was a short dance show, approx. 30 minutes by a group of European girls, very likely Slavic. They were brought by a minibus, completed their dance show and left the hotel immediately.
Are these girls strictly dancers or is it possible to find also Russian&Eastern European girls in Beijing who are professionals (for our purposes). If so, how can we get a hold of them and what is their price range?There are a few dance troops in Beijing that go from one bar to another every night to do a short show. Since they are a on a tight schedule you could probably not pick one up at the show, but you might be able to get someone's number to meet later. If you are looking for Russian / Eastern European girls then I suggest you check out Chocolate. It has been reported on this forum several times, so you can just do a quick keyword search.
Good Luck!
Sammy's Beginner's guide to Beijing can be found here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=990547
Gualtier Malde
06-20-12, 07:35
Just make sure the chick you chat with is not a guy! Haha.Yup! Wasn't going to mention it, but I did get one of those. Mighty suspicious, the "girl" was very, very forward, not like any other I've chatted with. Also "she" had no photos, nor would she produce any in the chat. I finally got "her" to admit she was a he.
On the other hand, I had my first meeting with a girl I connected with on WeChat. Young, married, very horny, wanted to fulfill a fantasy, and she did. Big time. Um, four times. And this, never having seen each other before in person.
GM.
Long time no see, brothers (and sisters?).
Went back to BJ just this week after 4 years and rekindled my interest in BJ. So what's the going rate there now? Thanks a lot.
KFCChicken
06-22-12, 01:31
Does it really help if you Asian blood and if you can speak basic Chinese? Will the price be cheaper?
Gualtier Malde
06-23-12, 08:27
Does it really help if you Asian blood and if you can speak basic Chinese? Will the price be cheaper?The price for what? Where? If you only know basic Chinese, most people who negotiate with you will know you are a foreigner anyway, doesn't matter the genetics. Chinese are not necessarily racist when negotiating, just smart and greedy. They won't give you a "you look Chinese" discount. But they might tell you they are doing so, even as they overcharge you.
This applies anywhere you are negotiating, not just in a place like a MP or BBS.
GM.
HelloBobby
06-26-12, 18:52
Dear Friends. I have seen a lot of good things about Angel. Unfortunately I cannot find her contact / email. Appreciate if someone can post it.
My apologies in advance if it was obvious and I could not find it.
Peace,
Bobby
In Beijing for a night and thought I'd ring up Angel as she's heavily recommended by fellow mongers. She lives up to her reputation. Asked for a small girl perhaps with some English. She recommend Xiao Yue. To my surpirse, she arrived 30 mins earlier while I was away! I'm at some fancy hotel. So had to come downstairs and escort her up. Not something I like doing.
Anyway. Long story short. She gives one mean BBBJ that went for 20 mins. I was fairly tired after a day of traveling and sped things up a bit after the BBBJ and finished in misisonary. She was a sport. Showered me afterwards and soon said her goodbye.
WIR. Possibly, but would take Angel's suggestion of better option. Or may be mix two girls. XY for the BBBJ and another for all the rest.
Angel followed up later at night. Since I'm flying out tonight, will have to wait for my next trip to taste other goodies.
Dear Friends. I have seen a lot of good things about Angel. Unfortunately I cannot find her contact / email. Appreciate if someone can post it.
My apologies in advance if it was obvious and I could not find it.
Peace,
BobbySame here. I would appreciate a PM with the contact info.
Ciao
Below is an interesting article taken from:
http://ishamcook.com/2012/04/03/a-modest-proposal-regarding-sex-work/
A modest proposal regarding sex work: Why all sex should be paid for.
Posted on April 3, 2012.
Baoyuan Dumpling Restaurant in Maizidian, the old 'wheat sellers' street in Beijing. This neighborhood, near the city's embassy district, hosts the largest concentration of massage parlors within the city, both good and bad (many more such establishments can be found outside the city limits). Being the major locale of German businesses, it's known to foreigners as Germantown; the Japanese are also active in the area. Baoyuan is one of the more popular dumpling restaurants. It fills up quickly during the lunch hour and you can't get a seat after 11:45, though you can reserve one of the restaurant's private dining rooms, as personnel frequently do from the American Embassy, within walking distance. The dumplings are succulent but their unique attraction is your choice of orange, green, or purple wrappings – the dough infused respectively with the juice of carrots, spinach and red cabbage. Like the colorful food, the waitresses change into a different folksy costume each day. Their cheerfulness and low turnover bespeaks good management. The owner plays cards with friends at a table out front on the sidewalk when the weather is warm. Since I order the same thing every time and the waitresses know me, I need merely sit down at my favorite table and am soon served.
One day a woman with large sexy almond eyes and high cheekbones fixed her gaze on mine as I stepped into the restaurant. Despite the youthful bloom of her cheeks, the shadows around her eyes suggested somewhere in her 30s. She was much too aware of her attractiveness to be a migrant yet mimicked the waitresses' traditional garb in her unlikely rustic quilted cotton jacket and matching pants (all restaurant waitresses in Chinese cities come from the countryside). She was eating alone and finishing up her meal. A minute later I casually glanced over at her; she was packing up a large order of dumplings to go and boldly met my eye again. Not the type to affect prudishness and plainly at ease in dealing with men. She got up to leave. As she passed by my table she slipped me a note with her cellphone number and the English name Melody hastily written on it and said with a smile, 'Call me. ' I had a good look at her on her way out – tallish with a narrow waist and big hips.
Rare is the woman to hand out her number to a strange man. Either I had lucked out on my ultimate catch, a female with a radically artistic consciousness who took each day as an erotic challenge, or more likely, an informal prostitute. (The closest I ever came to the former was an affair with a most extraordinary gal, a professional Chinese acrobat I met on a bus, a porn connoisseur who openly fellated me in a restaurant on our first date, could eat herself out and in performance rotate her body from supine to prone and back again while balancing lighted candelabra on her head, hands and feet: I told her that really needed to be performed in the nude.) But prostitutes don't have a habit of frequenting even slightly upscale restaurants. Lower-tier sex workers aren't allowed out of the establishments where they work at all; they are served cheap boxed lunches – breakfast actually, as they are just getting up from late-night work. The more independent freelance sex workers, including the crčme de la crčme who earn big bucks, are too financially persnickety to waste any money on something like fancy food: they expect to be treated to that by their clients.
I texted her. She responded immediately and wanted to meet that very evening. She wasn't from the neighborhood and wanted to meet at 10pm in the lobby of the classy Marco Polo hotel in a northern part of the city some distance away. I asked if we could make it any earlier. She wasn't free before that as she was visiting someone in the hospital earlier in the evening. What she was doing in Maizidian then? Delivering lunch for a friend in the hospital. The same hospital? Why then did she come all the way down to Maizidian for the dumplings? Vague in her responses, she wouldn't be pinned down. Well, at least she didn't belong to one of the local massage joints. I inquired as to what we were going to do once we met at the Marco Polo; I wasn't keen on a $150 room if cheaper options were available, on top of who knows what price she'the be placing on her body. She said she lived nearby the hotel.
After a late dinner, I rode up to the Marco Polo on my bike and waited in the hotel lobby. I was worried her face in brighter lighting wouldn't live up to my initial impression – they usually don't – and was in fact already regretting the long excursion to this part of the city, when Melody walked in. Now tastefully dressed in a low-cut black top, black tights and an unbuttoned yellow sweater showing off her hourglass figure and big breasts, she was stunning. Far more attractive than on first encounter and unmistakably, intensely beautiful. We moved to the lounge and I ordered Campari-sodas. She was from Qingdao. Her Chinese name was so common as to be effectively anonymous; not even Jane Smith or Susan Jones conveys its prosaicness, but in deference to privacy let's just call her Melody. She said was 29 and a graduate of the Ocean University in Qingdao, with a degree in marine biology; had married a fellow student and went off with him to spend a number of years in Germany while he worked on a doctorate. They fought a lot and got divorced, and she returned to China, trying out various jobs until she found a gig as a music teacher in a primary school in Beijing.
She shifted closer to me. We caressed each other. She got to the point. Her father had just had a stroke and the medical bills were skyrocketing way beyond what she and her parents could afford; it was with them she was spending every evening in the hospital. She knew I wanted sex. She wanted money – 2, 000 yuan to be exact. No, I said, that's too much. The most I had ever spent on a prostitute was 500 ($75) , which is what you could usually bargain things down to at the Pig & Thistle in the Lido Hotel or Maggie's in Jianguomen, where attractive Chinese and Mongolian hookers sought out foreign guys. I tend to find sex with prostitutes boring and a waste of time and money due to the lack of any genuine friendliness in the transaction. I must have a very good reason to bother, exceptional beauty for instance. The other reason I now felt myself teetering on the edge and willing to pay four times more than I had ever shelled out before was there was something truly mysterious about her. I couldn't read her; nothing about her made sense. As a writer I thrive on such ambiguity, the raw puckered fold of ambiguity to wiggle my finger into and work into a story, perhaps an unpleasant one but nonetheless one worth writing about. She lowered the price to 1, 500. If I agreed, she promised to give me several freebies after that.
We walked over to her apartment. She had me wait outside five minutes before going in after her; had a 'good relationship' with the guard and wanted to keep the men she brought over out of sight. The complex was in a decent neighborhood and her apartment what might be termed luxurious by average standards, though she kept it a pigsty. It was large with a spacious dining room foyer, a big living room with a king-size bed (which the Chinese typically convert into a master bedroom) , a bedroom proper with another king-size bed, and a second smaller bedroom where she kept her 7-year old daughter, as I discovered when I opened up the room by accident (she had told me she was childless). There was clutter and dust and unaccountable debris everywhere – wooden planks from detached furniture frames and piles of long rolls of some paper product that might have been inventory in a business. I was relieved at least it wasn't rented by a madam or pimp and shared by rotating girls. She said she owned the place and I had no reason not to believe her, yet I still couldn't figure out her circumstances. If she was still paying a mortgage she might have been in financial straits, but such a large apartment could only mean she was better off than most. For all I knew she gave all men the same spiel about her father's stroke, as a steady source of money to invest in the stock market.
She emerged after showering with her robe hanging open, lay back on the bed and spread her legs wide to show off a freshly shaved vagina. 'Chinese guys don't like it shaved but I know you foreign guys do. Here, eat me out. '
'Oh, no! I can't deal with shaved. I need hairy pussy. Why didn't you ask me first? '
Things were not getting off to a good start. I quickly put on a condom while I was still hard. She straddled me, which happens to be my favorite position, but she continued to make things difficult by keeping my hands on her tits when I wanted to grab her ass and making me maul them in a furious circular motion, apparently the only way she could get off. She yelled all right, and I yelled at her to slow down. The mechanical fucking deflated my erection after about a minute. She apologized for the fiasco and invited me to spend the night, while warning me I had to get out early in the morning before she got her daughter up 7am, not wanting us to meet, formally that is.
Her alarm went off at 6am and she got up; I dozed for another 30 minutes. After washing up, I found her fallen back asleep in the other bedroom. She jumped up and ran to her daughter's room to wake her up. I slipped out the door into a cold November morning pouring rain and no choice but to ride the hour and a half back home on my bike, because while my folding bike easily fit into the trunk of a taxi, finding a taxi in Beijing during rush hour in the rain is like winning the lottery.
A few days later I contacted her to see if she was amenable to honoring her promise and stopping over at my place the next day for a freebie. She agreed. An hour before she was due to arrive I got the inexorable phone call. 'It's too far to go your place. Come over to my place instead. You can stay the night again. '
Now we were at the crucial juncture, the battle of wits. It's not that she couldn't manage to make it all the way over. The problem was I had proposed something, and that wouldn't do. She obviously felt it her prerogative to propose and my duty to implement her will. For if she could get me to agree to go back over to her place in spite of my reluctance to, it meant she could get me to agree to anything, including forking over more money for our next fuck, and every fuck thereafter, despite the original terms of our agreement.
'No, ' I said.
When she saw I wasn't buying, her tone abruptly changed to coarse mockery: 'Oh, yeah, come and fuck me! I know you want it. Oh, yeah, ooh, oh, oh, fuck me! Ooh yeah, oh! Oh! Oh! –'
I hung up on her.
As quick as a wink we were enemies. Well, maybe not enemies. It would be more accurate to say we simply stopped existing for each other at that very moment and would be having no further contact. But why should I be upset about it, the whole cheap, shabby business, when her actions merely confirmed the eternal law of the prostitute, which I had known all along? A law that in its purity and logic could be described as a thing of beauty: The more unsatisfying the experience for him, the more satisfying for me. Prostitution is truly a magic act, but not for the reasons usually ascribed to it – the ease with which instant sex can be summoned at the snap of a finger and a little money. It is magical, rather, for the prostitute: the ease with which instant money can be summoned at the snap of a finger. The lovely rabbit pulled out of the hat unfailingly each time, that handsome sum of money in exchange for a few minutes of lousy sex, the lousier for him the better so that it's over quickly and the angry john beats a hasty retreat. Yet while the sex may suck for him, it doesn't for her, since it's all in the seduction and the conquering, just as it is for men. Once the prostitute habituates to this basic formula, there is no turning back. Once sex and money bind in this powerful chemical reaction, they can never be sundered. In fact, once money is eroticized, it improves, supercharges sex. Money doesn't debase sex, it transfigures it. That is why there are never any freebies.
In its ideal, egalitarian form, where sex worker and customer freely engage each other without intermediaries, sex work is a perfectly legitimate enterprise. Obviously, this is often not the case, with sexual slavery and exploitation so widespread, but that problem is really a separate issue and not my concern here (a vast trove of information about violent prostitution can be found in the media for the interested reader). There is, however, an interesting critique of prostitution even in its non-exploitative form, advanced by some feminists, which claims that the sex-for-money equation is essentially corrupting, since it severs a sex worker's connection with intimacy, her ability to enter into a genuinely loving, sexual relationship. This is said to constitute a grave violation of her human rights, even when she violates them herself in acting as a free agent. The fact that so many prostitutes seem to act against their own financial interests as well by cultivating short-term rather than longer-term relationships with customers only underscores this problem. There is therefore, according to this view, no legitimate form of sex work even under the best conditions, and the entire sex industry (pornography, etc, included) is an evil that society must work to ultimately ban.
I don't know what happens to a prostitute's capacity for love and intimacy, whether and to what extent it is ground down or obliterated after extended sex work. But must love or intimacy be universally regarded as a human right and imperative? I think some would beg to differ. There are many people who are not particularly fixated on the need to cultivate love or personal relationships, let alone start a family, and would regard the pressure to do so as an imposition and a violation of their rights as individuals. And the same goes for sex; everyone knows people who are utterly uninterested in their own sex life and are just fine being celibate or single. They may have different obsessions or preoccupations – their work, creativity, adventure, sports, spirituality, health or even sanity and just getting through the day. For countless people as well, money is more important than love. What's wrong with that? Why should a sex worker be looked at any more askance than a shopkeeper or businessman in their greed for money?
As for the claim that prostitutes lose the capacity to enjoy sex, I can vouch that this is decidedly not the case. Some of the most sexual and orgasmic women I have ever slept with have been prostitutes. It is true that sex work denudes sex of intimacy, but this only frees sexuality up to blossom in its own right. The truth about sex that too few people finally grasp is that it can't be fully experienced and enjoyed except as HOT sex, completely dissociated from love. You can thrust a liberated sexuality back into an intimate relationship, but in order to reap the best of both worlds you must first cultivate sexual technique and enjoyment for its own sake. Adding money to the equation does not corrupt this process but only enhances it, since you've now succeeded in getting the world's two most tangible pleasures. Money and sex – to realize each other. Maybe prostitutes are onto something that the rest of us are blinded to by age-old prejudices and moralistic preconceptions.
Why are sex workers so despised by the public and elicit so much disgust and contempt? It surely can't be because they earn money, like the rest of us. It can't be because they have sex. And it can't be because they happen to combine these two activities in the most logical way, which everyone else already does, though in more subtle or indirect ways (e. G. 'payback' for a man's dating expenses, the wealthy man who effectively buys his wife of choice). An answer to this conundrum is suggested in a recent Japanese movie about prostitution, Guilty of Romance (dir. Sono Sion. 2011). A glamorous and successful university professor who moonlights as a high-class escort sets about ruining and seducing into prostitution a stereotypically virtuous but buxom married woman she meets (who later turns out to be the wife of one of her wealthy clients) , for no other reason than the woman's purity invites it, like fresh snow that must be trampled upon, with grim yet unpredictable and bizarre results. Unlike conventional morality tales of the trade, what is remarkable about this film is the way it deals with its subject by stripping it of the usual sentimental admixture of sex, love, and privation. It's the rare investigation into the topic that focuses on the bare psychodynamics of the sex worker-customer relationship when money is not the issue and sex is not the point. What's left as the irreducible element and motivating force is pure corruption – corruption that feeds off itself.
At the center of the problem is the huge field of tension that forms in the charged space between two opposing ethical frameworks: that which regards sex as a sacred commodity in short supply and that which regards sex as abundant and freely available for a pittance or nothing at all. Conventional morality is aligned with the former, of course. Most people cannot stomach this contradiction, between everything they were brought up to believe and the contrary that keeps getting flung in their face. How can sex be so scarce and unattainable for some while so readily accessible for others? This tension between two incommensurable realties creates a psychosocial schizophrenic split, an intolerable ambivalence on a mass scale. Hence the universal urge to resolve the split, to equalize and level the playing field, namely by eradicating prostitution altogether, which of course has never and will never be accomplished (unless through impossibly draconian measures reminiscent of 17th-century Salem, Massachusetts, or the anti-prostitution campaigns in 1950-60s revolutionary China, along with which an intimidated and cowed public are compelled to internalize hostility to sex and lose the ability to engage in even conjugal sex without guilt and shame – the price that must be paid for effective sexual control of a population). Prostitutes are no less influenced by this ideology and its guises of corruption, meanness, and humiliation and reflect these back in mocking form.
What I propose would radically level the playing field by resorting to the other extreme: making all sex remunerative. Every act of sexual intercourse should be paid for, the price determined strictly by the market, by supply and demand, or by whatever price one person is willing to pay and another willing to accept. Since males universally have a greater need for spontaneous sex with a variety of bodies, they would continue to serve the role of customers (while attractive men could sell their services to gay men and older women, and why not younger women as well?). Some would command a higher price than others based on their age, appearance or other assets (education, reputation, etc.) , though sexual value would stabilize according to these market forces, and everyone would know what to expect along a general price range. A woman's price would nonetheless be elastic and negotiable; she could raise it and lower it at will, rising with wealthier or unattractive men and falling with men she found to her liking. Once a new generation grew up and adjusted to this new arrangement, girls upon reaching legal age would proudly announce their price on their Facebook page, their business card, and whenever meeting new friends and potential customers (teenagers would move in their own closed sexual economy).
Married men would not be exempt. Wives too could command a price in line with their sexual worth, namely what any man would be willing to pay, and a husband would have to pay up front before each session of sex with his wife. This would make clear economic sense for housewives, who it has long been acknowledged, deserve to receive a stipulated wage for their work, which they are routinely denied even in developed and civilized countries. For married women who work full-time outside the home, their sexual fees would be welcome compensation for the extra housework they almost invariably perform on top of their day job. In the event the husband loses his job or both come under financial hardship, their marital economy would adjust to make her price more affordable. In general, though, there would be no sex on the house. And of course all women would justifiably benefit from their increased revenue from sex work, rectifying the gender income imbalance across the board. In this new ethical framework in which a quantitative value is put on the sex act, the concept of sex for free would invert to something undesirable, even unthinkable. The only exception would be 'sex volunteers' devoted to providing gratis services to people unable to provide for themselves. The officially disenfranchised, the disabled. Just as some people currently take on volunteer jobs to help the disadvantaged or poor. Outside of this sphere, unpaid-for sex would be treated as a form of theft and subject to prosecution.
The comprehensive sexual monetizing of society would have a number of salutary results. Putting a price tag on sex, as noted, would restore value to it, not just in the abstract but more importantly, in each particular instance. You'the feel you were getting what you paid for; you could still be ripped off, as we are in any case for cheap or shoddy goods, but this would be the exception among wiser shoppers. With all sexually active adult women participating, the egregious economics of scarcity, which enables pimps to coerce and control sex workers, would disappear. With sex fully sanctioned and brought out into the open, the culture of shame would likewise vanish, sexual education in the schools would flourish, and STDs and unwanted pregnancy would plummet. Prostitution as we know it would cease to exist, or to be more precise, there would be no more need for pejorative terms to describe the buying of sex. Sexual negotiation and exchange would paradoxically lighten up and become almost a friendly affair, with the much greater degree of transparency now involved and the ease with which everyone could shop around with their dignity and morals intact.
How would such a scheme, if it had been in place, have altered my encounter with Melody? For one, she would probably have written her price of 2, 000 yuan down on the slip of paper she handed me in the restaurant (or I would have asked her in my initial text message). And I would have declined. But what would more likely have transpired is she would have forestalled my refusal at the outset with better tactics. Knowing such a high fee would be a turnoff, she would have lowered it to a price more in line with her worth – this not particularly charming or cultured woman who lived in a flat that looked like a tornado had hit it – to say. 1,000 or thereabouts. And I would have tried to bargain it down even further. If she hadn't found me attractive to begin with, she would have balked and I'the never hear from her again. If on the other hand she did find me adequately attractive, she would let me haggle her down to 500. Below that she'the lose face, but I could have handled 500, today's going rate for someone like her.
This is REALLY interesting; reminds me a bit of Intransit. I'd like to believe such a thing were possible. Maybe it almost could be in China, where the relationship between money and happiness doesn't disgust people as pervasively as in the US. It always amuses me that when I talk about sex with Chinese people, they always think America is much more casual and liberal about sex than China is; it's hard to make them believe it's quite the opposite. If the writer's proposal represents a direction of development, China is already way ahead of the US. The proposal sounds cynical, but in fact it's very idealistic. In the US, even the right to abortion is controversial, so I doubt there's any room at all for totally commodicizing sex. But what's really idealistic about it is, it assumes that men and women would both adopt and benefit from it equally, where in reality, women would benefit much more. This is a kind of feminism (one that men should find attractive, if they can let go of their general thrall over women) : it gives wives credit for their labor as well as condoning sexual activity outside of marriage. On the other hand, doesn't it favor the wealthy over the poor, regardless of gender?
Anyway, this is a delightful post, thanks for sharing!
_Mao_Dun_.
Below is an interesting article taken from:
http://ishamcook.com/2012/04/03/a-modest-proposal-regarding-sex-work/
A modest proposal regarding sex work: Why all sex should be paid for.
Posted on April 3, 2012.
Below is an interesting article taken from:
http://ishamcook.com/2012/04/03/a-modest-proposal-regarding-sex-work
A modest proposal regarding sex work: Why all sex should be paid for.As I read this and her name, Melody, came up, I was wondering if it was the same Melody I had been with in Beijing awhile back. The description fit. As I got to the part about squeezing her boobs during the act I was certain. It is the same! She wanted them squeezed so hard I was afraid I would hurt her. If I would ease up, she would scream. Harder! Anyway, I first met her in the lobby bar at China World. She was there with another very large breasted girl and was hoping for a 3 some. I settled on her only. I have seen her two or three times since, always at my hotel though. Her money comes from the stable of girls that she has available. She actually works as a mamasan. She apparently travels also, I've seen her in Escape in Hong Kong.
Dear Friends. I have seen a lot of good things about Angel. Unfortunately I cannot find her contact / email. Appreciate if someone can post it.
My apologies in advance if it was obvious and I could not find it.
Peace,
BobbyGo to the classified section and go back a few pages. Angel has an ad there with her contact info.
Yes, I have been living in Beijing for several years. I have all of the Pig girls numbers, but do not want to post openly on the forum. I am happy to share via PM, but it seems you are not a paid member. Try her again. She typically starts working around 7 and may have just been sleeping.
I would love to meet up with you tonight, but I already have plans. If you get back to Beijing please let me know.
Good Luck!
SammyHey Sammy, it's actually my first time in Beijing. I speak fluent mandarin as I was born and half-raised between Taiwan and the US.
Was wondering if you could give me some pointers here or if it's possible for us to meet up in person.
It seems that my notion that things worked the same way here it does in Taipei is extremely off track. So I'd prefer it if a veteran such as yourself would be willing to show me around.
You can reach me at my email [Email address deleted by Admin]
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Brooklyn Cyclone
07-01-12, 05:58
Go to the classified section and go back a few pages. Angel has an ad there with her contact info.Just google for "Angel Beijing".
Brooklyn Cyclone
07-01-12, 06:18
Hi Sammy,
I just came to Beijing from Shanghai. I read your beginner's guide to Beijing. Very helpful.
I am not a bar person. More interested in Sauna or BBS. Any idea where I can find them?
Many thanks in advance.
The main bar area is called "San lu tun" which is actually a street name. There is a big shopping center called "The Village" on sanlutun. A good bar there is called "Swing":
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=WGgWbF%2B%2BxHs%3D
The Worker's Stadium is located west of Sanlutun:
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=qkbosln6Yws%3D
There are several bars located around the worker's stadium. You can tell a taxi "guan ti bei mar". This will take you to the north gate where you will find Mix & Vix. Lot's of girls here late night, but caters to a young crowd.
You may also want to check out Xiu Bar on the 6th floor of the Park Hyatt hotel:
http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=TgP66J_jJKU%3D
The links above are from:
http://www.mobilenative.com/
This site is good for finding various locations in Beijing (I think it now also covers Shanghai).
Good Luck!
Sammy
El Frances
07-01-12, 20:41
Long time no see, brothers (and sisters?).
Went back to BJ just this week after 4 years and rekindled my interest in BJ. So what's the going rate there now? Thanks a lot.I haven't picked up at mix. I once got picked up by a girls in vix (but we picked up her wardrobe in mix, so she must navigate between the two places). She wanted 1000 st and got down to 800. She was a total starfish asking to be paid before sex (we all know what it means). I had a look at the other girls in mix and would bet they are starfish too. Since then I go to disco to have fun, and when I come back call lili or maria to send a girl to my room for 500 + taxi money. Same for maggies.
Easily Pleased
07-02-12, 09:58
Hi Sammy,
I just came to Beijing from Shanghai. I read your beginner's guide to Beijing. Very helpful.
I am not a bar person. More interested in Sauna or BBS. Any idea where I can find them?
Many thanks in advance.Sauna and BBS are everywhere but I usually head to Tiantongyuan, Huilongguan or Lido. I have posted about these before. Good luck!
Brooklyn Cyclone
07-05-12, 16:25
Sauna and BBS are everywhere but I usually head to Tiantongyuan, Huilongguan or Lido. I have posted about these before. Good luck!Thanks Easily Pleased. I read all your postings. If I am not mistaken, most of the places you discovered are BBS with HJ, except one post you mentioned after 2 heavy steel doors one offered FS for 400rmb. Is that the case? In other cities, like Shanghai, almost all BBS offer FS for 200. For 300rmb usually they will take you to apartment building, which is much safer.
I don't think I read any FS sauna in your posting. If I missed it, do you mind re-post it or send a link?
For now, BTW, I have settled for outcall services. I have tried Fiona, Angel, and Lily. Fiona is definitely the most expensive one. Quality-wise not much difference among the three. Lily was very fast. One time girl came within 15 minutes. Angel has good service and quality is consistent. Just my own opinion.
Brooklyn Cyclone
07-05-12, 16:31
Long time no see, brothers (and sisters?).
Went back to BJ just this week after 4 years and rekindled my interest in BJ. So what's the going rate there now? Thanks a lot.1200 at Qixingdao (sever star island). I haven't tried myself. Will post a FR once I go.
TnginCheek
07-05-12, 21:34
Sauna and BBS are everywhere but I usually head to Tiantongyuan, Huilongguan or Lido. I have posted about these before. Good luck!Hi Easily Pleased,
I travel to Beijing regularly, and stay around Chaoyang area / Lido.
What are your experiences with Chaoyang area MPs? I walk by a few of them on my way to office, haven't tried any yet. Any particular recommendation close to Lido?
Thanks in advance!
A while back there was a discussion of using VPNs to access sites outside China. Searched and found nothing. Looking for a decent VPN that I can use in China as well as the US. Anyone using a VPN or some other technology?
Easily Pleased
07-07-12, 17:08
Hi Easily Pleased,
I walk by a few of them on my way to office, haven't tried any yet. Any particular recommendation close to Lido?
Thanks in advance!Ehhhhhhhh, what are ye waiting for? Get in and try and tell us! Jesus!
Easily Pleased
07-07-12, 17:36
Ok, looking for advice on qq girls.
Anyway, I have received a nice foto from a girl. A nice hot foto, I might add. She charges 400 for 3 hrs and 800 for the night. Too good to be true? Most likely to happen?
Ok, looking for advice on qq girls.
Anyway, I have received a nice foto from a girl. A nice hot foto, I might add. She charges 400 for 3 hrs and 800 for the night. Too good to be true? Most likely to happen?I'd like to know the answer too.
Going first time to China. Would request for some help if any monger have some experience there.
I have browsed and have done some RTTF, so Maggi, The Den and Angels are on Radar. Do suggest if any good MP or pick bar apart from these.
Please suggest. 4/5* star Hotel to stay with Pub / disco with pickup possibility for free / paid girls in-house. Office work will be in Lize East Street, Chaoyang District.
Thansk for helping out.
Inblr01One source I found is very relyable and informative AND up to date not only for pick up opportunities but
Also for independent escorts (only few but verified.) is.
Beijing-nightlife-guide. Com.
My favorite hotel in Chaoyang district is the Jianguo Hotel on Jianguomenwai the jie. No disco etc. Though but many around (see above)
PM me if you need some direct contacts.
Gregoryb
Dan Diggler
07-08-12, 06:15
A while back there was a discussion of using VPNs to access sites outside China. Searched and found nothing. Looking for a decent VPN that I can use in China as well as the US. Anyone using a VPN or some other technology?Big Tom,
Being careful on presenting the information on censorship to you.
You can play with this a little in google.
Best-5-anti-see-software-tools-proxy-v*
Use your imagination on what to substituent asterisk for as I have left you a hint.
Laobaixing
07-08-12, 11:09
I'd like to know the answer too.I had a pretty horrible experience with a QQ girl that had that price. Does she list her neighborhood as Tuanjiehu / changhongqiao?
My experience was they introduced me to a girl who wasn't nearly as hot as the girl in the picture. This happened on the street, and they wanted cash upfront. I said I wouldn't pay until they brought me to an apartment, which they said they would. They walked me to the door of an apartment building, took my money and then said the apartment was in use. So, they drove me to a hotel, the driver demanding 50 kuai, and the hotel refused to take me because I'm a foreigner. They then drove to another hotel across town (another 50 kuai). The whole process took an hour or so, I was calling the initial contact person demanding a refund, she refused. The girl ran out after we had sex. Well before the 3 hours were up. Your mileage may vary.
In general, Q girls will not be the same as the pic, but some of them aren't bad. Don't pay until you're with the girl, in the apartment so that you can back out. And let them know you're a foreigner before hand, because some won't take you and you don't want to schlep all the way out to god knows where only to be turned away.
I have no great desire to be the bearer of bad news, but I hear another Beijing crackdown is impending. We all know the Communist party's 18th Congress is coming (probably October, date yet to be determined, or at least revealed). It doesn't take a genius to realise that things will be tight around the time of the Congress; what's less obvious, and greatly depressing, is that the tightening appears to be starting as of now, or very soon, at any rate. I have this on moderately good authority from girls at a sauna known to other members of this board. They've been given the word that they'll either have to shut down soon, or stop doing anything but straight massage.
As ever in China, nothing's clear. It could be that the local police station is getting out ahead of itself; or it could be that Chaoyang District (known for being relatively keen on crackdowns) is leading the way. But I wouldn't be too optimistic. As ever, this will impact most on saunas and massage places. Outcall services might be less affected. And expat hangouts such as Maggies might be OK as well (though those of us here during the Olympics will recall that even Maggies wasn't immune then). So, take care out there. It's going to be a bit dry. (Oh, to be in a provincial city such as Qingdao, where I was recently: relaxed atmosphere, prices a third of Beijing, service twice as good.)
Loveasiangirls
07-08-12, 23:44
A while back there was a discussion of using VPNs to access sites outside China. Searched and found nothing. Looking for a decent VPN that I can use in China as well as the US. Anyone using a VPN or some other technology?Sites offering VPN are blocked in China, so better get it before you leave. I use this one: https://12vpn.com/
Big Tom,
Being careful on presenting the information on censorship to you.
You can play with this a little in google.
Best-5-anti-see-software-tools-proxy-v*
Use your imagination on what to substituent asterisk for as I have left you a hint.Dan, thanks a bunch.
Sites offering VPN are blocked in China, so better get it before you leave. I use this one:
https://12vpn.com/Thanks. Cheers.
Need to activate your status so we can send you pm's.
A while back there was a discussion of using VPNs to access sites outside China. Searched and found nothing. Looking for a decent VPN that I can use in China as well as the US. Anyone using a VPN or some other technology?
Easily Pleased
07-09-12, 08:41
I have no great desire to be the bearer of bad news, but I hear another Beijing crackdown is impending. We all know the Communist party's 18th Congress is coming (probably October, date yet to be determined, or at least revealed). It doesn't take a genius to realise that things will be tight around the time of the Congress; what's less obvious, and greatly depressing, is that the tightening appears to be starting as of now, or very soon, at any rate. I have this on moderately good authority from girls at a sauna known to other members of this board. They've been given the word that they'll either have to shut down soon, or stop doing anything but straight massage.
As ever in China, nothing's clear. It could be that the local police station is getting out ahead of itself; or it could be that Chaoyang District (known for being relatively keen on crackdowns) is leading the way. But I wouldn't be too optimistic. As ever, this will impact most on saunas and massage places. Outcall services might be less affected. And expat hangouts such as Maggies might be OK as well (though those of us here during the Olympics will recall that even Maggies wasn't immune then). So, take care out there. It's going to be a bit dry. (Oh, to be in a provincial city such as Qingdao, where I was recently: relaxed atmosphere, prices a third of Beijing, service twice as good.) Yes, I noticed that just about all the BBSs in Lido and around Yayuncun have been shut for the past week or so but Tiantongyuan and Huilongguan are still running. Tiantongyuan seems to be the best value anyway but the crackdown makes me nervous. As The Clash once said,"Should I stay or should I go now!"
Teppenyaki
07-10-12, 04:07
Dear gents.
I will be in Beijing for a business trip one week from July 22.
I read the Beijing forum before posting this message, and already got some ideas about places to visit and things to do on the hobby side.
Unfortunately, I have to stay at Ramada Beijing North 319 Changping Road, Changping District, Beijing 102208.
Googling the address, it seems pretty far from the downtown.
My questions to Beijing experts are very simple:
Anyone had a stay in this hotel or knows the local area?
There is any Sauna / FS provider in the hotel area?
I would like to have a good option near the hotel for just in case.
Thanks in advance.
T.
Ok, looking for advice on qq girls.
Anyway, I have received a nice foto from a girl. A nice hot foto, I might add. She charges 400 for 3 hrs and 800 for the night. Too good to be true? Most likely to happen?Forget the photo. There are those around Chaoyang that charge just 300 but for 2 hours. Check your PM.
Sai
Any old hands got any leads for Lanzhou? New territory for me and a short stay so any help appreciated. Not having much luck searching the forum. I think my PM is still working if needed. Thanks!
K.
KTV outing this Friday if anyone's keen. Drop a pm with your contact number and name. It's on the edge of the third ring road near liangmaqiao subway station.
Brooklyn Cyclone
07-11-12, 15:26
Ok, looking for advice on qq girls.
Anyway, I have received a nice foto from a girl. A nice hot foto, I might add. She charges 400 for 3 hrs and 800 for the night. Too good to be true? Most likely to happen?Unless the girl is holding a piece of paper with her mobile number on it, all pictures are fake. Price, on the other hand, most likely is real though.
Brooklyn Cyclone
07-11-12, 15:27
KTV outing this Friday if anyone's keen. Drop a pm with your contact number and name. It's on the edge of the third ring road near liangmaqiao subway station.What is the damage normally and how much for to-go?
What is the damage normally and how much for to-go?To-go is not always a confirmed thing in Beijing and it's about 1300 and up for an overnight sessiOn including sitting fees. Drinks and room charges are about 500, dependent on choice of alcohol and amount.
To-go is not always a confirmed thing in Beijing and it's about 1300 and up for an overnight sessiOn including sitting fees. Drinks and room charges are about 500, dependent on choice of alcohol and amount.Dang, hate to miss k party organized by nameci. Are you thinking about the 'fortune plaza'?
Friday is tough for me, got to work early Saturday :' (
If you haven't partied with nameci before, he knows k like the back of his hand! B-)
Cheers,
Staid
Dang, hate to miss k party organized by nameci. Are you thinking about the 'fortune plaza'?
Friday is tough for me, got to work early Saturday :' (
If you haven't partied with nameci before, he knows k like the back of his hand! B-)
Cheers,
StaidThanks for the vote of confidence Staid! Sad you can't make it though, let me know what are your good days in future.
Hi Guys,
I'll be soon in BJ, I do not know which hotel yet.
Would you have any recommendation for a good MP with HJ?
I have RTFF, but not much info on that one. Or at least lots of contradictions.
Thanks
Finally going to stay at Traders at Jianguomen Wai Main Street, Chaoyang District.
Seniors, Do let me know the walkable pick-up spots to this hotel for fun.
How is SPA in this hotel and any other inhouse venture possible? Hope this hotel is GFE.
Please guide.
Inblr01Can usually see girls in the shopping arcade in the world trade centre, also outside world trade centre and nearby.
There used to be girls hang out inside traders but I have not been there for awhile so do not know the current situation inside the hotel.
Good hunting.
Teltel
Does Beijing have a "craigslist" for providers or a database that lists the QQ numbers of providers?
Thanks
I haven't been to Maggie's in years and made a come back yesterday night. First, the (mongering) scene was pretty dead, with punters outnumbering the sisters. Second and most importantly, how the hell can prices be so high now?
After I arrived around midnight, I took the option to get a drink and sample the place: there were a few good looking girls among the usual older ones, and I started to talk to a young small thing who had been making eye-smile contact with me for a few minutes. Discussion turned to negotiation pretty soon and she gave me a "discount" price of 2, 000 for one hour, because "You are handsome, otherwise I ask 2, 500". I told her 1, 500 for the night as I was quite hungry for young Mongolian pussy. We parted.
I had other similar ridiculous discussions the whole night, there was a young tall stunner at the bar, I even didn't bother to go to ask how much she would ask as I was seeing waves of brothers approaching her with a smile and leaving her very soon without it. She left apparently alone at around 3. 30. During all this time, I was regularly bumping into my first "discount" choice who was using her charm with every male in the bar. Every time she was making a pause, she would come to me and speak for a minute, me standing firm on my 1, 500 all night, and her price going down step by step. At 4am, we closed the deal at my price for what was left of the night.
We went back to my hotel, showered, BBBJ, DATY, sex several positions. After round two, it was already 8am, I asked her to leave in order to sleep a few hours and recover from this disappointing night in Maggie's.
I think it is clear that some guys go for those prices, and I was probably lucky that my "discount" girl didn't find one of them all night long, otherwise I would have left empty handed. But still in my opinion what I paid is already too much. There are cheaper options in Beijing for a similar service / experience: this afternoon I got a young cutie from outcall service for only 500rmb +tip (which was deserved for a true GFE attitude) , just look for outcall cards guys at entrance of most hotels.
So, I'll probably stay away from Maggie's a few years again, but my guess is that things won't get better.
Actually you can go to a Beijing section on Craigslist just like any other city, but the ads there usually have fake pictures and will put you in touch with a mamasan. Either that or sky-high prices. Another option that's sometimes cheaper is banwan (dot com) , but the site does not have an English version, so you have to be able to read Chinese. It's easy to collect phone numbers there, but advertised prices range from 700-800 to several thousand. Some of the pictures look real, but that doesn't mean they are of the girl you end up with. There are suggestive ads in the personals section of thebeijinger (also dot com) for things like language exchange and travel escort that could probably get you into bed for a premium price (English speaking ability, while having no advantage between the sheets, costs a lot more). Finally, if you have access to a cell phone network or wireless, you can download the WeChat app (called weixin in Chinese) , which has been discussed recently on this board, set up an account, and then use the Look Around function and find women who are within 100-3000 meters from you. Depending on where you are, there may be providers among these who are quite straightforward. I remember taking the airport bus down to Guomao with WeChat on, and when the bus passed the Sanyuan / Liangmaqiao area, some users proactively messaged me (this never happens where I usually am) , and then again when I got off at Guomao. Some in English and some in Chinese. I was on my way home so I didn't pursue the leads, but I think it's fair to say they are providers.
_Mao Dun_.
Does Beijing have a "craigslist" for providers or a database that lists the QQ numbers of providers?
Thanks
Actually you can go to a Beijing section on Craigslist just like any other city, but the ads there usually have fake pictures and will put you in touch with a mamasan. Either that or sky-high prices. Another option that's sometimes cheaper is banwan (dot com) , but the site does not have an English version, so you have to be able to read Chinese. It's easy to collect phone numbers there, but advertised prices range from 700-800 to several thousand. Some of the pictures look real, but that doesn't mean they are of the girl you end up with. There are suggestive ads in the personals section of thebeijinger (also dot com) for things like language exchange and travel escort that could probably get you into bed for a premium price (English speaking ability, while having no advantage between the sheets, costs a lot more). Finally, if you have access to a cell phone network or wireless, you can download the WeChat app (called weixin in Chinese) , which has been discussed recently on this board, set up an account, and then use the Look Around function and find women who are within 100-3000 meters from you. Depending on where you are, there may be providers among these who are quite straightforward. I remember taking the airport bus down to Guomao with WeChat on, and when the bus passed the Sanyuan / Liangmaqiao area, some users proactively messaged me (this never happens where I usually am) , and then again when I got off at Guomao. Some in English and some in Chinese. I was on my way home so I didn't pursue the leads, but I think it's fair to say they are providers.
_Mao Dun_.Thanks. I can speak and read decently so I will try Wechat once I get to Beijing. Have you tried banwan before?
someone recently posted that wechat is addictive, and i second that. i live in yanjiao and when my wife went traveling i got on to see what i could see. as you would expect there are a lot of young mothers (they have as many pics of their 2yr old son as of themselves) and high school students or recent graduates. but there are also a few providers. they'll often only have a sexy profile pic (usually not themselves, and they don't have a photo album) and a status message with a lipstick symbol and $$, or something romantic like "cut the crap, do you want me or not?" (in chinese). once i found a high school student (i didn't realize she was only 18 until i started chatting with her) who had the english status "free hooker." i think she was trying to be cool (she's at the central academy of fine arts high school here). without bothering to point out that this is a contradiction in terms, i did warn her that foreign guys in town seeing this might get the wrong idea. probably blushing profusely, she immediately changed it. not that teenagers are so innocent. i got into a conversation with a 17 year old at the same school who suddenly asked me whether i had ever cheated on my wife, how many women i have slept with, and whether i'd ever been with a professional. she is very hot by the way, but i restrained my libido and didn't get creepy on her.
i'm writing now though because i have been a member here for years but have never provided a report, so now i'll try to make up for that with a clumsy wechat sex story. i located a provider with a very alluring profile picture and the status "brother, do you need it? (gege ni xuyao ma?)." she said the price is 600 for one shot and 1200 for two, i think there was a 2-girl deal for 1000 for one shot too. i thought 600 was a reasonable risk for "taking a hit for the team," and she came over in about an hour. two women came, one stocky woman of about 30 and a 21-year old girl who was kind of cute. i said i only asked for one, and the 21-year old said "i'm just here to collect the money, i brought her here for you. isn't her skin white?" it wasn't; in any case i don't care about that. anyway i was eager to see what she could do and she had a kind of pretty face. i didn't like prepaying, but the girl was firm, so i gave her 600 and she took off, saying she'd be back in an hour. the chunky girl went into the bedroom with me. i said,"don't you want to take a shower? i just showered." she said "no, i don't need to." okayyy. she got out of her clothes in 3 seconds and i found she had a body just like my wife, except with legs like tree trunks. i think she's from the countryside. her personality wasn't nasty but she took out a disinfectant towel and rubbed me down and then went right at my still limp member bbbj and managed to get me stiff in a very short time, then rushed to get a condom and then pulled me down on top of her. i was trying to caress her and explore her body, but she was all about getting to the main event in record time. this was getting so unpleasant for me i was starting to lose my erection, so i decided to go with the flow and started thrusting. it was so much like having sex with my wife i lost interest in changing positions or withholding my orgasm, so i just let it go in a few minutes. she moaned a little, and it didn't seem fake, but i could tell i was not her cup of tea. boom, another disinfectant wipe and she was fully dressed in like one minute, calling her friend. the other girl was like,"what, you're done already?" i swear the woman was only in my place for like 20 minutes. girl 2 came back and i said "thanks bye bye."
face: 6.
body: 3.
gfe: 0.
efficiency: 10.
daty: you wouldn't want to, although i did ask her and she firmly (and probably wisely) refused.
bj: 5.
mish: 4.
summary: wham, bam, thank you ma'am.
the story didn't end there though. i later got follow-up from the wechat girl (whom i later discovered was the younger sister of the 21-year old). i told her,"not really my type, but i'm not complaining." she sent me a photo of herself (the younger sister of the 21-year-old) , _very_ cute, and said,"what do you think of this type? she's 19 years old." i said "not bad!" she didn't respond to a couple of my texts, but then came back later with,"how about that girl who came to collect the money? let me know if you need, and she'll take good care of you." i was puzzled, and came to the conclusion that she was the girl in the picture talking about herself, because the money girl looked similar. i was out of touch for a few days because my little lover from inner mongolia came to visit, but after she left i got back in touch. she said i could go to her place, and she'd make me very happy. i said i wasn't all that comfortable going to her place (not knowing whether i was going to get bonked in the head by some "brother") , so she came to me. it was the money girl, which i was fine with. i asked for 2 shots and she offered a 200 discount, guaranteeing i'd have a good hot time at a relaxed pace. she showed up, showered, and i really liked the way she looked. not a very pretty face, but a nice young firm body, smallish boobs but with perky little brown nipples, a bit of a paunch but a nice slim waist, and a really wonderful, fantastic soft little derriere. perhaps according to her usual procedure, the first shot was more or less for an appetizer, not much foreplay, just "come on, let's do it, it's the first shot." she did let me switch from mish to doggy, which was great because her back and ass were a glory to behold. she was nice and tight for me, unlike her chunky colleague. back to mish and there went shot one.
quick shower and then we started watching tv, and chatting. she really liked to talk and was very curious about me and everything she laid eyes on in the house. i discovered in the conversation that the wechat girl and she were sisters; her sister being 19 and much slimmer. i think she was afraid i felt deceived, but i assured her i liked her very much. then she took a phone call for a few minutes, after which we got back onto the bed. she wasn't kidding about relaxed pace. we caressed each other and she told me her sob story: broken family, crappy, selfish parents, pressuring her for money. she said she knew others who were also using their bodies to provide money to deadbeat parents and step-parents. she has a day job and looks forward to not relying on being a wg, and in fact rarely does p4p herself. despite the gloomy conversation she got my little brother to stand at attention again. the gfe had set in, and brought some passion into shot 2. starting with hugging and caressing, sucking, i worked my way down to a fairly hairy but really nice little snatch, which she really enjoyed me eating, as did i. she said "brother you really know how to play!" i found i could get my tongue in deeper than most women, and she was getting really juicy. this went on for several minutes until she said she couldn't stand it anymore, and we were at mish again. although i was tired yesterday i suddenly found new energy. her moans and cries were kind of fake and kind of real, i couldn't tell, but i was really enjoying the sex. she flipped me over anticipating that i really wanted her on top of me. she did vertical thrusting but didn't last long due to not much leg strength, i guess, so she lay down on top of me and told me to go at it (she apparently didn't know or do the front-to-back cowgirl thrusting, which my lover has come to master and is the only way she can come). i kind of like fucking from under, but i only seem to be able to do it at high speeds, so i did a few speed bursts like that and she seemed delighted. flipped to doggy and i found my middle-aged body was starting to get fatigued. why wasn't i coming? i'm usually more of a premie type, but for some reason, much as i was enjoying this, it was going on and on and i wasn't seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. i had to rest. she knew i hadn't come and said, okay, take a rest and we can have another go, or we can just leave it at this, it's up to you. normally i should have been able to come easily, so i told her let's rest a while and do it again. this was totally opposite from her colleague, and i wasn't paying her much more. but then i wouldn't have wanted an extended experience from the first one. back to attention again, i went for mish because we both seemed to like it best. normally i have to hold back because i tend to come too soon, but at this point i was pulling out all the stops with a very sexy body under me. in a way it didn't matter to me whether i could come or not, this was so enjoyable :p i seemed to come close a couple of times, but would have needed my 28-year-old body to carry it out. it was a very satisfying, exhausting session, and i just had to call it quits. another shower for both, total 90 minutes. i'm definitely going to have to work out and lose some weight again.
she told me she could line me up with another hottie; i think her little sister would be spectacular, but i felt too embarrassed to bring it up after listening to her sad family story. also i'm running out of money after going shopping with my girlfriend. fortunately my wife's not looking at the accounts.
face: 6
i've noticed a lot of dongbei (northeastern) girls, who incidentally seem to be a major chunk of the yanjiao population, all seem to have facial skin problems. and to use chinese terms, her features are not attractive. but she has a genuine, infectious smile.
body: 8
exquisite ass and shapely legs, but small breasts. her skin has a nice caramel color from head to toe, which she thinks is ugly, but i liked very much, and apart from her face, her skin was fine and supple.
gfe: 9
i'd give her a 10 if she had been a more cheery conversationalist&12290;
daty: yes. 8.
bbbj: 8.
_mao dun_
FernandoAlonso
07-16-12, 11:17
Mate,
What you describe is a common and worrying phenomenon. I must congratulate you to your steadiness and you had a good time. I never paid 1500. I never will. Because there are too many options and quality goes down. Many girls still go for 1000 if you indicate you are an old timer. But as the younger and not so fat ones are getting fewer they can ask these prices. But the last times I was Maggie's I was surprised how little action there was and arriving before midnight is a pure waste of time. So iny opinion they are killing their own existence but if you ever went up to Mongolia you will understand there is no way they will understand this. It is surprising to hear what they talk among each other. All stupid lies about how much we pay. I found the price reward ratio already screwed at 1000 for most girls. But too many idiots out there with beer googles and fat wallets. A night with a horny Mongolian lady is still a dream come true but in UB the most beautiful stunners go for 200 RMB. Just putting things into perspective.
Standard ST price is now almost fixed at 1500, LT 1500 to 2500. And that often limited to two pops.
I miss the good old times without any negotiation. Just put the 1000 in the purse in the morning.
FA.
I haven't been to Maggie's in years and made a come back yesterday night. First, the (mongering) scene was pretty dead, with punters outnumbering the sisters. Second and most importantly, how the hell can prices be so high now?
After I arrived around midnight, I took the option to get a drink and sample the place: there were a few good looking girls among the usual older ones, and I started to talk to a young small thing who had been making eye-smile contact with me for a few minutes. Discussion turned to negotiation pretty soon and she gave me a "discount" price of 2, 000 for one hour, because "You are handsome, otherwise I ask 2, 500". I told her 1, 500 for the night as I was quite hungry for young Mongolian pussy. We parted.
I had other similar ridiculous discussions the whole night, there was a young tall stunner at the bar, I even didn't bother to go to ask how much she would ask as I was seeing waves of brothers approaching her with a smile and leaving her very soon without it. She left apparently alone at around 3. 30. During all this time, I was regularly bumping into my first "discount" choice who was using her charm with every male in the bar. Every time she was making a pause, she would come to me and speak for a minute, me standing firm on my 1, 500 all night, and her price going down step by step. At 4am, we closed the deal at my price for what was left of the night.
We went back to my hotel, showered, BBBJ, DATY, sex several positions. After round two, it was already 8am, I asked her to leave in order to sleep a few hours and recover from this disappointing night in Maggie's.
I think it is clear that some guys go for those prices, and I was probably lucky that my "discount" girl didn't find one of them all night long, otherwise I would have left empty handed. But still in my opinion what I paid is already too much. There are cheaper options in Beijing for a similar service / experience: this afternoon I got a young cutie from outcall service for only 500rmb +tip (which was deserved for a true GFE attitude) , just look for outcall cards guys at entrance of most hotels.
So, I'll probably stay away from Maggie's a few years again, but my guess is that things won't get better.
Hi Guys,
I'll be soon in BJ, I do not know which hotel yet.
Would you have any recommendation for a good MP with HJ?
I have RTFF, but not much info on that one. Or at least lots of contradictions.
ThanksCan I PM you?
Gregory
One Eyed Man
07-17-12, 16:14
This evening, walked past the Hujialou BBSes. They were all shut, padlocked, with what looked like "for rent" signs on the doors. Even the ones on Chaoyangmen (next to the police station) were shut. There's no major political assembly for months. What gives?
The 18th Party Congress, where comrade Xi will replace comrade Hu. Is that enough?Maybe there will be a state funeral for Comrade Bo who presumably died of an heart attack.
Easily Pleased
07-18-12, 07:51
This evening, walked past the Hujialou BBSes. They were all shut, padlocked, with what looked like "for rent" signs on the doors. Even the ones on Chaoyangmen (next to the police station) were shut. There's no major political assembly for months. What gives?Huilongguan, Lishuiqiao and Tiantongyuan are still pulling hard, thank god. Enjoy!
Gualtier Malde
07-18-12, 14:36
Huilongguan, Lishuiqiao and Tiantongyuan are still pulling hard, thank god. Enjoy!Freebies never shut down during party congresses!
GM.
HowsBeijing
07-18-12, 16:12
I went all the way up to taintongyuan. It was around 945-10pm on a Wednesday. I've never shopped at a bbs before. I first went to lishuiqiao and walked around for close to an hour trying to find a bbs with service. Most of them were cutting hair. Perhaps I was too early. *
Anyway I walked out of tiantongyuan and out the south exit if I remember correctly. It's where most other people were going. *
There were a couple rotating bbs spirals in sight but they all looked like operating places. Then I crossed the street and saw one black and white one on the side of a building along the driveway into a courtyard of some complex and pitch darkness. *
I walked in and there were 3 young very cute girls. There were no chairs, no mirrors, nothing. Just a couch with 3 girls on it. *
The most beautiful one hopped up as I pouted to her and led me down a small dark hallway into a VERY small room with a twin bed against the wall and about the width of another twin bed of floor space to the other wall. You could touch both walls by holding your arms out. Also the walls didn't go all the way to the ceiling so if you're a loud one, you will be heard by anyone else in there. (there werent any other customers there when I was there. She did talk for a sec to someone, presumably masan who was in a pitch dark room next to mine. The door was open when we walked to my room but I couldn't see anything inside.)
Anyway she was one of the cutest WGs I've ever seen and had a very cute personality. She massaged my arms a bit without negotiating anything. Not rushed at all. Then she asked what I wanted and I communicated I wanted FS. She kind of made out the English words "make love" so she'd understand that if you said it. I usually say sex and point to my crotch and then their crotch. She asked for 1000. I started by offering 300 based on all the posts I've read here. I went up to 400 and she then asked for 500 for HJ. Finally we settled on 600 for FS (SORRY). I know I could have gotten lower if I started to walk out or put up more of a fight but at this point I was exhausted and not up or much negotiating. *
She left and got the kit. Wipes, tissues, rubber, etc. *
She got my clothes off and started working on my little man to get him ready and immediately put the rubber on. *
One thing she did which I f'and hate is turn the lights way down. I made we turn them up a bit but it wasn't enough to see her well enough. *
She had an incredible body. Small frame. But not too short. Maybe 5'5" or 5'6". But she had no tits. And she was actually so embarrassed about her breasts that she didn't want to take her top off. I got it up high enough to see them and feel them but the shirt never fully came off. *
We started in mish and then moved to doggy and then finished up in mish again. *
She was a little smelly down there. The distinctive bv smell. She was finicky about me touching her down there, so even if she worked out the smell, you might not have too much luck at DATY. *
I told her that this wast first time so I was agreeing to 600 but next time I'd give her 300. Of course she said.
No but then asked when I'd be coming back. *
Her name was xiaoyun. 23 years old. Said she was from Huzhou. *
Face 9-10.
Body 9.
Tits: none.
Service: 7-8.
Perfect little happy trail. No big Bush down there. *
Def going back to try some of the other talent there. *
Huilongguan, Lishuiqiao and Tiantongyuan are still pulling hard, thank god. Enjoy!
First of all, I am new to this board, nice to be here.
I will be in Beijing only 7hours transit and looking for some soapy massage not so far from the airport in the afternoon hours. Is there anything possible?
I am thankfull for any advise.
Thanks,
Shawn
Fifty Shades
07-20-12, 12:14
Tried calling angel today. Got a message that the number was not in service. Anyone know anything?
El Frances
07-20-12, 18:37
Does Beijing have a "craigslist" for providers or a database that lists the QQ numbers of providers?
ThanksCraiglist is well known for scams and overpricing in beijing. And pictures are fake (You can check them with https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/image-lookup/).
It's better to use know providers than to adventure there.
One Eyed Man
07-20-12, 21:51
I just got back from spending hours at M's. The alcohol is clearly talking, so please skip if it's not down your alley. Bashing the talent at Maggie's has become a habit around here, but it's not my goal. Clearly, prices have gone up, perhaps due to the growth of the Mongolian economy, though a recent report says prices are much lower there. I was there on a pretty slow night. Most of the girls were probably home for the Nadaam holiday, though the permanent fixtures were always there. I'm not good with names, but I'll do my best.
Cast of characters:
There is one Mongolian gal with spiked blonde hair. I think her nickname is Oogi, though I've never taken her home. Great boobs and a butt about the same size. I recall one time in 2009 that she was going from guy to guy, soliciting their best offer and in search of ever-higher offers, so I avoid her. Many people in the bar seem to know her.
There's a Chinese girl from Sichuan province with a fantastic rack and a bubbly personality. The boobs are real and fairly firm (Chinese girls seem to have soft breasts.) I know because I touched them twice. This gal is impressive and scores a customer at least once and probably twice a night. I think she realized that the night was coming to close, since she was making me many offers: to 6:00 pm the next day. She's hot and I'd like to give her a try, except I can't close the deal when I imagine all the guys she's been with.
There is this one kinda stocky gal with a bob haircut and D cups. She usually has a non-friendly expression on her face. Once I was chatting with her (teasing her) and she tried to kick me in the balls. I think in that line of work, it would bad for business if your potential customers' balls were hurting.
There is a very attractive, tall Mongolian girl with a sweet face, but she somehow puts out an unfriendly vibe, so I never try to ask her for a quote.
There is the girl I took home a few weeks ago, who has a nice figure and a smoldering look. She doesn't seem to get much action, though. I wonder how many of the girls go home every night without making any money yet having to pay for drinks.
Then there's the band. I think they do a good job, especially now that they have expended their repertoire, but I wish Maggie's just didn't have a band at all. Opinions seem to vary about the band. They are nice people, but it makes it hard to walk around and observe the talent when the band is playing and people are standing around watching and listening.
I think the talent among the bargirls has declined dramatically. They recently have hired many new girls. There are some old standbys that I like to hang out with, but somehow the new girls just don't do it for me. They all have a certain level of cuteness, but can't they hire some bargirls that are just plain hot?
In summary, I spend several hours at M's. I had many drinks, bought some drinks, felt generous and bought drinks for the band, and hung out with some Mongolians and got to play grab-ass with a couple of the bargirls. And the hot dogs were great, if you stop them from putting all the toppings on them. I like mustard and relish.
Bad Boy Billy
07-21-12, 01:51
There is one Mongolian gal with spiked blonde hair. I think her nickname is Oogi, though I've never taken her home. Great boobs and a butt about the same size. Yes this is Oggi – was back in UB for a year or so on BF's ticket – now back at work – titts are fake – and when you get her naked they aint so good either – has a kid.
There's a Chinese girl from Sichuan province with a fantastic rack and a bubbly personality. The boobs are real and fairly firm (Chinese girls seem to have soft breasts.) I know because I touched them twice.Cannot for the life of me think of this ones name – at least I think it is same girl – always smiling?
There is this one kinda stocky gal with a bob haircut and D cups. She usually has a non-friendly expression on her face. Once I was chatting with her (teasing her) and she tried to kick me in the balls.Alexandra – she is so moody – one night will not tyalk to you – next night so friendly – was offered a double header with her and another last visit – will happen neext time.
There is a very attractive, tall Mongolian girl with a sweet face, but she somehow puts out an unfriendly vibe, so I never try to ask her for a quote.This one I cannot place.
This is the sad part OEW – a guy can put up random descriptions like this and the cast has not changed in Maggies for years – so little new talent nowadays – same old faces – yet it drags me in most nights.
Interesting you mentioned the band and hot dogs OEM – I thought it was only soft cox like Sammy and Jesse who went to Maggies for the band and hot dogs – please tell me the hoares were your main focus?
Tried calling angel today. Got a message that the number was not in service. Anyone know anything?Had SMS contact with Angel several times recently, even today. No problem.
Tried Angels 4 times in the last month (3 girls) and all were pretty and sexy girl-next-door types. Two (Mary and Yao Yao) are on Angel's blog and photos are real. The third one, Ting Ting, is not on the blog but she's very pretty and has a great young body. All are early 20s. Yao Yao and Ting Ting love sex, have friendly personalities and give passionate service. They are my 2 favorites. Overall, during this crackdown and lack of sauna options (and declining a Maggie's experience) , Rmb 600 for great sex with a 21-year-old who provides a GFE is not a bad deal. Plus I like the way Yao Yao and Ting Ting dress up in nice dresses and don't rush it. Also their kissing is great.
Member #4387
07-21-12, 23:23
Beeing a first time poster in the Beijing section of ISG I will first of all say that I have browsed this sites for quite a few years. I am a regular traveler into Asia with China and Thailand as the countries I frequent the most. I am not so much into KTV (tried it in Shanghai sometimes with various success but I am up for it again with good guidance) and various barbershops or massageplaces. My huntingground is:
1. Datingsites. DateInAsia and Tagged. Had quite a success through these sites also in China (Thailand, Philly, Malaysia and so on). Met a few stunners in Beijing and Shanghai. Works the same way as in Norway though. Wine and dine. Cost money either way. But at the end if you score the girl with some naughty sexactivities we can allways call it a freebie as the girls will not accept any money for the datesession. Believe me I have tried to hand over some money the day after and got some severe ballkicks from treating them as prostitutes. My bad. You can ofcourse meet proffesionals and semi proffesionals through these sites but I don't think I have encountered this so far atleast they don't want money from me even if I want to give them. Some of them have become somewhat mistresses when I am in China and then it starts to cost money when we hit the Oriental Plaza for some normal shopping.
2. Bars / Nightclubs. I have probably lived around the Sanlitun area 20 times or so. Normaly I stay at Swissotel or A. Hotel (located at or inside the Workers Stadium). Swissotel is located approx 1K from my prime huntingground which is the nightclub Vics. I read many beijing forums and Vics allways ends up in bad light either due to the bouncers (violent) , pricing (drinks) and to young girls. Beeing soon 40 myself I can ofcourse see the ladies here are a bit younger than me and thanks God they are, hehe. But I like the attitude of the place and the people. In my mind the crowd here consists of semi proffesional girls and normal girls (often the young and wealthy beijing partycrowd). I see some posters in ISG ask for where to find Russian girls and in Vics you can almost every night run into some of them. My own experience is that they probably are "stani" girls because when I believe I have taken one Russian girl back home it shows she is from Kirgistan, Khazakstan or sth like that. But some years ago they were all from USSR so same same but different passport maby. Lately I have started to see some Mongolians as well in Vics. For Mongolians and Stani girls you will have to pay. I have never had any negotiations in Vics though so you never now. Maby they play the game according to where they are. Mongolians and Stani girls I often pay 1000RMB for LT. Had never encountered any limits of pops. Some are even 3 holers. They are not to picky though on raincoating so be careful and use your brain (I have left my brain in Norway a couple of times, hehe). The young Chineese girls you can have in Vics are more adventerous girls and maby just want to try some westerns. Some ask nicely the day after of some taxifaremoney and mostly they have deserved it so no prob. They are reluctant when it comes to backdoor fucking though. Maby they don't know it is possible to stick sth inside where shit comes out. Education education is what it is all about.
I have also been to Chocolate, Xiu (Park Hyatt Hotel) and Banana disco (not far froom the Lufthansa building I believe) and to many others mainstream and "not so stream places" doing some mongoring.
Xiu is a place I also read bad reports of. I have allways had a blast when I go there. Yes it can be a long waiting line and the place can be crowded. Just ask the person in charge (by the entrance) you want a bottle of Vodka at the bar and you will be forwarded through the line. When they have arranged space for you here you can relax, drink and start to browse the premesis. The ladies most likely to join you back home will also stand at the bar. Not difficult to eyeball them (nicely ofcourse) and get them over. Then you can offer them drinks and after some time you are good to go back home accompanied by a chineese stunner (not allways ofcourse remember the boozegoogles). The girls here like to act somewhat Hi So but I guess they are just regular girls trying to fit in. Some girls here will easily accept money for their services.
Also had some short time mid day action out of the Den just for a quick pop. Mostly I use this oppertunity if I live at the A. Hotel nearby.
Fucking a scam girl I will tell in another post bcs this starts to get boringly long I guess.
Nyc Nighthawk
07-21-12, 23:49
After studying all advice given on the site, I concentrated on Angel's service. I can only confirm the great reports. Texted her 3 times and she sent 3 times cute and friendly GFEs. One night she even sent someone at 4am. All were well dressed, super friendly and provided a service they seemed to enjoy as well. Xiaoyue came over early morning. She is end 20s, bubbly. Fang Fang is super cute with a well done breast job and well trimmed and #3 I forgot the name. She was the youngest, natural and made me feel comfortable from the minute I picked her up at the elevator. Can't wait to go back.
Member #4387
07-22-12, 00:00
Well I believe it is a scam with another touch than the regular teascam routine. Where young stunning girls hit on you by the entrance of various shopping malls claiming to be art students and they ask you if you do have time to join them to watch their work. I have never gone through with this and told them off in a firm way so I realy don't know what such scams end with. Anyone have first hand information. Maby it is no scam, hehe. Well either way. Thinking about this some time I thought maby I could get some fun out of it and I decided if this was about to happen I would pop a rather undecent proposal (not as in the movie ofcourse). Because every time I have been approached by an artstudent or a teadrinker it has been beautiful ladies with good english skills (my chineese is zero except from bei mei guy. Had to learn that frase to buy some roses for a date some time ago) which I would be more than happy to fuck.
With this in mind I was walking from the subway line towards the entrance of Oriental Plaza (the outside one). I was on the look for some game and I saw one girl from a distance talking to many foreigners on their way inside the Plaza. I voluenteered to go towards her and we made eyecontact. She came towards me and she came up with this terrible idea me going to some small workshop to look at some work her group had been doing. I looked interested but suddenly I changed my pace and fired back at her in a nice way that "maby you will go with me to my hotel and I will buy whatever you can give for 1000RMB". She looked somewhat surprised and she thought about it. I was mostly doing this for the fun of it and did not have high expectations of her accepting my offer. She said yes!
We taxied back to Swiss and into my room. She was a bit reluctant in the beginning starting to realize what she had agreed upon but she went through with the deed and I had some great fucks. Great because I in a way reversed the situation (I was not trying to scam her though). But I was all nice to her and I could see from my experience with proffesional ladies she was not. She was not a virgin. By all means but you catch my drift don't you? We ended the session with her giving me all her contactdetails and I have had her on later occations as well. She was the wettest girl I ever had until this day and in my life this is evidence that she is having not such a bad time. And to this day I still believe she is an art student but I have never seen any of her work. Her perfomance in the sack is getting better and better. I even get to pop a finger in her ass while doing her doggy. More than a finger is out of the question as she is blaming me of beeing gay (which I am not).
She is by the way one of the most beautiful girls I ever had in China (proffesional or not). Slim and tall (175cm) , normal handful tits, long black hair and some firm fit butt and only 22 yo. Can't wait to get back in mid August.
Loveasiangirls
07-22-12, 03:28
Well I believe it is a scam with another touch than the regular teascam routine. Where young stunning girls hit on you by the entrance of various shopping malls claiming to be art students and they ask you if you do have time to join them to watch their work. I have never gone through with this and told them off in a firm way so I realy don't know what such scams end with. Anyone have first hand information. Maby it is no scam, hehe. Well either way. Thinking about this some time I thought maby I could get some fun out of it and I decided if this was about to happen I would pop a rather undecent proposal (not as in the movie ofcourse). Because every time I have been approached by an artstudent or a teadrinker it has been beautiful ladies with good english skills (my chineese is zero except from bei mei guy. Had to learn that frase to buy some roses for a date some time ago) which I would be more than happy to fuck.
With this in mind I was walking from the subway line towards the entrance of Oriental Plaza (the outside one). I was on the look for some game and I saw one girl from a distance talking to many foreigners on their way inside the Plaza. I voluenteered to go towards her and we made eyecontact. She came towards me and she came up with this terrible idea me going to some small workshop to look at some work her group had been doing. I looked interested but suddenly I changed my pace and fired back at her in a nice way that "maby you will go with me to my hotel and I will buy whatever you can give for 1000RMB". She looked somewhat surprised and she thought about it. I was mostly doing this for the fun of it and did not have high expectations of her accepting my offer. She said yes!
We taxied back to Swiss and into my room. She was a bit reluctant in the beginning starting to realize what she had agreed upon but she went through with the deed and I had some great fucks. Great because I in a way reversed the situation (I was not trying to scam her though). But I was all nice to her and I could see from my experience with proffesional ladies she was not. She was not a virgin. By all means but you catch my drift don't you? We ended the session with her giving me all her contactdetails and I have had her on later occations as well. She was the wettest girl I ever had until this day and in my life this is evidence that she is having not such a bad time. And to this day I still believe she is an art student but I have never seen any of her work. Her perfomance in the sack is getting better and better. I even get to pop a finger in her ass while doing her doggy. More than a finger is out of the question as she is blaming me of beeing gay (which I am not).
She is by the way one of the most beautiful girls I ever had in China (proffesional or not). Slim and tall (175cm) , normal handful tits, long black hair and some firm fit butt and only 22 yo. Can't wait to get back in mid August.They are not students at all. This is just a job. My former real estate agent told me that before working in real estate she did the "art student" job just after she arrived in Beijing from her home town (Tianjin). The only requirements for this job is that they can speak english. Good catch though. I always prefer amateurs to pros.
Member #4387
07-22-12, 04:38
They are not students at all. This is just a job. My former real estate agent told me that before working in real estate she did the "art student" job just after she arrived in Beijing from her home town (Tianjin). The only requirements for this job is that they can speak english. Good catch though. I always prefer amateurs to pros.He he that figures. I thought so but I have realy not given it to much thought as she now is more than willing to meet up with me whenever I give her a sms. I treat her nicely and she treats me nicely and thats all there is to it. I have to lie to her every now and then as well so I put her artstudying to its rest, hehe. Have not talked so much about that and everytime I have tried to ask her about her studying she leave the art subject quite fast and are more willing to talk about her language skills which she has gotten from somewhere. Her english is "perfect as mine" bare in mind english is not my first language.
Bad Boy Billy
07-23-12, 01:53
After studying all advice given on the site, I concentrated on Angel's service. I can only confirm the great reports. Texted her 3 times and she sent 3 times cute and friendly GFEs. One night she even sent someone at 4am. All were well dressed, super friendly and provided a service they seemed to enjoy as well. Xiaoyue came over early morning. She is end 20s, bubbly. Fang Fang is super cute with a well done breast job and well trimmed and #3 I forgot the name. She was the youngest, natural and made me feel comfortable from the minute I picked her up at the elevator. Can't wait to go back.First post. Totally bogus. Another Angel add. Why not f*k off to the Classified section Angel?
Bad Boy Billy
07-23-12, 07:26
Beeing a first time poster in the Beijing section of ISGSkogis I have some serious reservations about the accuracy of content of your post #8922. Mongols or Russians from Vics at RMB1,000 incl anal just does not happen. Just does not happen
HowsBeijing
07-23-12, 08:17
So do you still pay her each time you see her, or just that first time?
Well I believe it is a scam with another touch than the regular teascam routine. Where young stunning girls hit on you by the entrance of various shopping malls claiming to be art students and they ask you if you do have time to join them to watch their work. I have never gone through with this and told them off in a firm way so I realy don't know what such scams end with. Anyone have first hand information. Maby it is no scam, hehe. Well either way. Thinking about this some time I thought maby I could get some fun out of it and I decided if this was about to happen I would pop a rather undecent proposal (not as in the movie ofcourse). Because every time I have been approached by an artstudent or a teadrinker it has been beautiful ladies with good english skills (my chineese is zero except from bei mei guy. Had to learn that frase to buy some roses for a date some time ago) which I would be more than happy to fuck.
With this in mind I was walking from the subway line towards the entrance of Oriental Plaza (the outside one). I was on the look for some game and I saw one girl from a distance talking to many foreigners on their way inside the Plaza. I voluenteered to go towards her and we made eyecontact. She came towards me and she came up with this terrible idea me going to some small workshop to look at some work her group had been doing. I looked interested but suddenly I changed my pace and fired back at her in a nice way that "maby you will go with me to my hotel and I will buy whatever you can give for 1000RMB". She looked somewhat surprised and she thought about it. I was mostly doing this for the fun of it and did not have high expectations of her accepting my offer. She said yes!
We taxied back to Swiss and into my room. She was a bit reluctant in the beginning starting to realize what she had agreed upon but she went through with the deed and I had some great fucks. Great because I in a way reversed the situation (I was not trying to scam her though). But I was all nice to her and I could see from my experience with proffesional ladies she was not. She was not a virgin. By all means but you catch my drift don't you? We ended the session with her giving me all her contactdetails and I have had her on later occations as well. She was the wettest girl I ever had until this day and in my life this is evidence that she is having not such a bad time. And to this day I still believe she is an art student but I have never seen any of her work. Her perfomance in the sack is getting better and better. I even get to pop a finger in her ass while doing her doggy. More than a finger is out of the question as she is blaming me of beeing gay (which I am not).
She is by the way one of the most beautiful girls I ever had in China (proffesional or not). Slim and tall (175cm) , normal handful tits, long black hair and some firm fit butt and only 22 yo. Can't wait to get back in mid August.
Nyc Nighthawk
07-23-12, 12:36
First post. Totally bogus. Another Angel add. Why not f*k off to the Classified section Angel?Sorry that it is my first time, but there is a first time for everyone. I am legit, but I also will not engage in further discussion about it. There are 30 million people in BJ so I am sure that there are great service providers besides Angel. I was there for the first time and I was happy with her service.
Cheers
Member #4387
07-23-12, 22:17
Skogis I have some serious reservations about the accuracy of content of your post #8922. Mongols or Russians from Vics at RMB1,000 incl anal just does not happen. Just does not happenMaby it is my hairy viking body they envy so much, hehe. No, shit to side. I have brought many girls from Vics but I can not remember one single time I have paid more than 1000RMB (I pay almost the same for the usual bottle of Grey Goose vodka, hehe). Mostly I pay 7. 800 hundred. I can not help it no matter what you say sir. I would pay more if I had to no problem. I have been to Vegas and I live in my own country, Norway.
Member #4387
07-23-12, 22:26
So do you still pay her each time you see her, or just that first time?No we don't have any special arrangement besides I like her company. Maby she likes mine as well (who gives a shit). If I am in BJ just for a short stopover I hand her some money so she can buy herself some clothes.
If I am in BJ for longer stay I will meet her sometimes in between my mongering for wine and dine arrangements and some adult action at the end. Sometime during my stay I take her shopping and buy her some nice outfits. Last time I bought her some diving equipment (wetsuite) bcs she was heading for her Padi Open water training in Cairns (my call).
She is not demanding we just have great fun. And that suites me extremely fine. Horny bastard as I am.
After studying all advice given on the site, I concentrated on Angel's service. I can only confirm the great reports. Texted her 3 times and she sent 3 times cute and friendly GFEs. One night she even sent someone at 4am. All were well dressed, super friendly and provided a service they seemed to enjoy as well. Xiaoyue came over early morning. She is end 20s, bubbly. Fang Fang is super cute with a well done breast job and well trimmed and #3 I forgot the name. She was the youngest, natural and made me feel comfortable from the minute I picked her up at the elevator. Can't wait to go back.NYC Nighthawk presumably by the NYC you purport to come from New York, USA if this is so why do you not use vocabulary and grammar that is prevelant in that city.
It would also e nice to get a detailed report of each encounter instead of something that looks from one of Angel's ads.
Teltel
Has anybody experience with the (sauna) places in "Beijing Night life guide" website?
Tried Angels 4 times in the last month (3 girls) and all were pretty and sexy girl-next-door types. Two (Mary and Yao Yao) are on Angel's blog and photos are real. The third one, Ting Ting, is not on the blog but she's very pretty and has a great young body. All are early 20s. Yao Yao and Ting Ting love sex, have friendly personalities and give passionate service. They are my 2 favorites. Overall, during this crackdown and lack of sauna options (and declining a Maggie's experience) , Rmb 600 for great sex with a 21-year-old who provides a GFE is not a bad deal. Plus I like the way Yao Yao and Ting Ting dress up in nice dresses and don't rush it. Also their kissing is great.Additional comment: Ting Ting has wonderful C cups, Yao Yao's breasts are pretty good but not as good. Yao Yao has a bit of baby fat- not as slim as she looks in blog photo. But the key thing: both have super-nice personalities and make you feel like you are the king of their world. For an hour. This is priceless. Hope to hear more girl evaluations re outcall providers from other members.
Additional comment: Ting Ting has wonderful C cups, Yao Yao's breasts are pretty good but not as good. Yao Yao has a bit of baby fat- not as slim as she looks in blog photo. But the key thing: both have super-nice personalities and make you feel like you are the king of their world. For an hour. This is priceless. Hope to hear more girl evaluations re outcall providers from other members.Yes, I had good experience with Angels in the past, and she had prepared Ting Ting and Fang Fang for me recently but unfortunately I was not able to come to BJ, what a shame, I really want to try those two really thin girls.
OS
Member #1983
07-28-12, 07:03
Read a lot about Angel in the forum and finally had a try last nite. Pretty late about 230 in the morning, texted her and get response in no time. Asked for Yao Yao but not ava. She rec JoJo and ended up a smooth Anhui girl in early 20.
Some GFE but not very much. Clothes off immedietly while she entered the room. Blowed me slowly for 3 min and she asked me to be on top. DATY and she giggled to avoid. The main course lasted less than 10 mins and while in doggy position, she managed to push forward her butt to avoid a little. I did not complain cause it seems natural and real.
Overall, a so so experience not matching my high expectation.
There's an interesting thing. I am a Chinese and Angel asked where did I get her info by a call. She is curious cause she said there are seldom Chinese clients with her.
Regarding the art student / tea scam. When I lived in Beijing around Olympics time I was approached in the foreign language bookstore, an average looking girl but a great rack and good English. She had recently arrived from Henan or somewhere and was struggling in Beijing. Anyway, I got her number, and about a month later she called me asking to meet. Before long she was a regular freebie.
These are naive girls who have not thought through or realise the immorality of the scam, just get their number and get in touch with them again sometime later. They are a good source of freebie recruitment.
Member #1983
07-28-12, 08:54
Read a lot about Angel in the forum and finally had a try last nite. Pretty late about 230 in the morning, texted her and get response in no time. Asked for Yao Yao but not ava. She rec JoJo and ended up a smooth Anhui girl in early 20.
Some GFE but not very much. Clothes off immedietly while she entered the room. Blowed me slowly for 3 min and she asked me to be on top. DATY and she giggled to avoid. The main course lasted less than 10 mins and while in doggy position, she managed to push forward her butt to avoid a little. I did not complain cause it seems natural and real.
Overall, a so so experience not matching my high expectation.
There's an interesting thing. I am a Chinese and Angel asked where did I get her info by a call. She is curious cause she said there are seldom Chinese clients with her.
I haven't been to Beijing for a year now but still check the posts once in awhile. It is amazing how many classified ads are in this thread for Angels. All these new regular members posting the classified ads for Angels. If you study them it looks like the wording is almost the same in all of them. Surprising! Almost like the same person with 10 different names saying the same thing every time.
ConquerorVal
07-29-12, 12:39
Just returned from Beijing yesterday, and had an excellent experience with a SP with the agency on the 27th of July. I texted with Angel for couple of hours regarding her business, and she asked me about how I found her contact number. When I mentioned this forum she had no idea how it operated or what information was circulated. I believed she was honest and that there is no insider here advertising on her behalf.
FernandoAlonso
07-29-12, 12:45
Changed some RMB today. Got for 300 Euro just a bit over 2000 RMB. About three years ago I got almost 1000 for 100 EURO.
At these times I used to get for my 100 EURO a full night of unlimited and uninhibited FS from young Mongolians without any price haggle. Now I pay 300 EURO in a from a European view disastrous economic situation and get a lot of haggles, only 2 shots per night and less and less GFE.
In addition the RMB also has gotten much stronger towards the Mongolian currency, so what the ladies ship home is also getting more in relative terms. Of course this is partially offset by the price increases in Mongolia being an almost 100% import economy, but still. The current one night pricing feeds an average family for a month back home.
It is a dirt poor country and I am not saying the girls should not try to get as much as they can get away with however in a situation where buyers get economically weaker, service goes down and suppliers gain a much higher financial part of the pie this signals a market getting out of balance and this usually does not last forever.
And before someone wisely shouts all things get more expensive and you get what you pay for. Safe your breath. I bonked girls for 200 RMB each of the last 3 nights and today had perfect GFE service by an Urumqi Sauna girl for 880 RMB. Trained far beyond any Mongolian I ever had. And these prices have been stable for 2 or 3 years, as long as I ca look back.
Just my thoughts
ConquerorVal
07-29-12, 12:56
I had the pleasure of meeting Ting Ting this past Thursday, and she did not disappoint. She claimed she was 21 years old and she looked it. A beautiful thin girl with a perfect body. She was wearing a nice outfit comprised of a white top and brown shorts. I waited for her outside the hotel-Hotel Nikko in Haidan district, as I wanted to take her in through the side entrance to minimize public exposure as my family was out sightseeing. Also, one needed a card to use the elevators. She was friendly from first encounter and was very sweet and shy at the start. Ting Ting provided a really nice GFE experience with plenty of DATY. 69 and BBBJ, ending with a cowgirl position. Offered her a drink but only wanted water. I found her quite affectionate throughout the session and she provided eye contact during the BBBJ. Overall a fantastic experience. Pretty well as good as it gets. Angels deserves the accolades it receives, as both the agency and the provider were very professional and top notch. Oh Ting Ting, I can still see your beautiful face and gorgeous tight delicious trimmed pussy. Must return to Beijing sooner than later. The service cost 700 RMB, and angels phone was the same as on the website.
Has anybody experience with the (sauna) places in "Beijing Night life guide" website?Was trying to find / try some BJ saunas as indicated in Beijing-nightlife-guide dot com. Couldn't find neither Lotus Club nor Silk Stocking Clubhouse. No indication whatsoever in the area indicated on the map of the website. In Shanghai the saunas outlined by this website exist.
Than went to Yanjiao. Tried Roman but no special service at all. Also other places in Yanjiao I couldn't find even though I followed descriptions in previous posts here. May be also because I don't speak Chinese. Went back very frustrated. Isn't there any decent, save sauna in the suburbs?
ConquerorVal
07-29-12, 14:56
Here is back photo of beautiful Ting Ting. Would not let me take a photo of her lovely face.
Just returned from Beijing yesterday, and had an excellent experience with a SP with the agency on the 27th of July. I texted with Angel for couple of hours regarding her business, and she asked me about how I found her contact number. When I mentioned this forum she had no idea how it operated or what information was circulated. I believed she was honest and that there is no insider here advertising on her behalf.Thanks for the reply Angel.
Hi! Two girls need help. We are going in Beijing in August and searching for place to relax, drink and dance. And to find somebody for night for both pleasure. 26-28 years, dress code. High-heels and dress. Where we can go? Do you have any recomendations?
Thanks,
Natalie
FernandoAlonso
07-30-12, 03:50
Just returned from Beijing yesterday, and had an excellent experience with a SP with the agency on the 27th of July. I texted with Angel for couple of hours regarding her business, and she asked me about how I found her contact number. When I mentioned this forum she had no idea how it operated or what information was circulated. I believed she was honest and that there is no insider here advertising on her behalf.Angel is existing, as well as unfortunately a couple of handles posting fake or at least glorified reports that do not match the experiences of other people with hundred of posts and credibility. So it is almost impossible now to distinguish what is real and what is fake. Welcome to China! But one thing is for sure most outcall agencies in Beijing, Shanghai and in most parts of the world offer high prices and low service. There is no Angel as it is just an agency name promoting a couple of Mamas or Papas. Girls change frequently. Pictures are photoshopped or pure fake. The same girls reporting here for 600 or 1000 (plus the stupid taxi fare) go in the local market for maximum 300 to 400.
I do not say all reports are fake but most, just look on the names, almost identical language and post number. Draw your own conclusions. There are a few mamas out there who offer good quality but you must personally know them to get guanxi and good quality. The phone agencies are just intermediaries and we all know what this means.
And yes Beijing is a little bit more difficult now as there is another crackdown on MPs (many many closed) , BBS and Saunas. This is the capital of China and not AC! But there are still options if you give it a little effort and common sense. Outcall is for the ones who have no time, experience or will to explore. Not mean that as an offense but in this cases you mostly get what you ask for not what you pay for.
Based on real personal experience, however, full disclosure, I never have and never will use Angel because I despise unethical business practices.
FA
Teppenyaki
07-30-12, 04:45
I just went back home from Beijing after one week business trip.
Unfortunately I was forced to stay in an hotel in the north suburbs, very far from the center (1hr by taxi) but closer to the great wall (50 mins).
I concentrated my extra-work activity on angel`s girlsfriends.
I had Snow twice, because she`s very friendly, speaks good english, and loves sex very much. She also claimed she liked me enough to accept a late call at midnight, arriving in the hotel room at 1. 30 AM.
Snow is not a stunning beauty, but quite nice lady with soft boobs, with 100% GFE attitude. She started BJ in the shower, with a lot of french kisses and likes to try any sex position you like (except AF).
Highly recommended.
I also recommend the Angel`s services to anyone, especially to whom is staying in hotels far from the center, or has problems with Chinese language.
Angel is very nice person, answers promptly to the phone and to e-mails, is very polite and willing to satisfy the requests of the customer.
Contacts are here.
http://***************.blog.com/
I deserve her this good review.
Have fun gents!
T.
Laobaixing
07-30-12, 08:33
Was trying to find / try some BJ saunas as indicated in Beijing-nightlife-guide dot com. Couldn't find neither Lotus Club nor Silk Stocking Clubhouse. No indication whatsoever in the area indicated on the map of the website. In Shanghai the saunas outlined by this website exist.
Than went to Yanjiao. Tried Roman but no special service at all. Also other places in Yanjiao I couldn't find even though I followed descriptions in previous posts here. May be also because I don't speak Chinese. Went back very frustrated. Isn't there any decent, save sauna in the suburbs?The Lotus Club is in an apartment, its not a storefront operation. I haven't been, but I've added them on QQ. You need to make an appointment and then they tell the specific address. So, yeah, you wouldn't notice it by walking around the neighborhood.
FwStallion
07-30-12, 13:05
Was trying to find / try some BJ saunas as indicated in Beijing-nightlife-guide dot com. Couldn't find neither Lotus Club nor Silk Stocking Clubhouse. No indication whatsoever in the area indicated on the map of the website. In Shanghai the saunas outlined by this website exist.
Than went to Yanjiao. Tried Roman but no special service at all. Also other places in Yanjiao I couldn't find even though I followed descriptions in previous posts here. May be also because I don't speak Chinese. Went back very frustrated. Isn't there any decent, save sauna in the suburbs?Hi Bro pekshy.
As there is political transitions coming up, a lot of the shops would be more careful.
You can always try the outcall services such as Fiona at the following location http://www.************.blog.com/.
You can be assured of at least some girls to be found and should be to your pleasure especially the more recent ones like Aya or Lulu if you prefer those not too experienced.
Hope this helps on the situation.
Regards
I haven't been to Beijing for a year now but still check the posts once in awhile. It is amazing how many classified ads are in this thread for Angels. All these new regular members posting the classified ads for Angels. If you study them it looks like the wording is almost the same in all of them. Surprising! Almost like the same person with 10 different names saying the same thing every time.How do you know they are not real? I used to use a different handle and recently changed I had said too much in the past about myself and fear of my wife eventually finding out about my posts. Of all of the Angel's girls, I would only ask for Ting Ting and Fang Fang, as not all of her girls are worth it, and most I would say would disappoint and I hope she will get more girls like those two.
OS
ConquerorVal
07-30-12, 15:45
I am not sure what ethical business and mongering have in common. At best of times it is a shady business with shady operators. Very often you do not get what you want, but in case of Ting Ting and Angel, I feel I got my money worth. I have not submitted as many posts as you have FA, but I am well travelled and experienced. I always travel with my family so my options are limited, and my risks are higher. I wish there was a thread devoted to people that have these limitations when exploring. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to get to know some of these agencies, different options or service providers as you suggest, and I suspect most people are in the same position, and have to take their chances. I think most of the contributors are not so naive as not to be aware of the fact that the photos are doctored, and indeed Angel or whoever she is confirmed that lot of the photos are fake, and few are real. When I mentioned that the same happens all the time in Toronto, she laughed. Indeed we both know what the rules of engagement are. I still stand by my recommendation, however, I agree with lot of the points you have made. If you have no time (not laziness!) to explore take your chances. Its part of the thrill and fun. I have to do this in Toronto all the time and I never get what I want, but sometimes I get more than I ask for.
FernandoAlonso
07-30-12, 18:28
Hi! Two girls need help. We are going in Beijing in August and searching for place to relax, drink and dance. And to find somebody for night for both pleasure. 26-28 years, dress code. High-heels and dress. Where we can go? Do you have any recomendations?
Thanks,
NatalieNatalie,
Just send a PM to BadBoyBilly, he can help on all your requests, the rest hanging out here is either Angel in disguise or to old and ugly (including me) to satisfy 2 lovely ladies.
He also knows the good places to find entertainment, namely Chocolate and Maggies, depending on your nationality.
And photos may help too.
FA.
PS: What happens to this board? This is getting way to weird.
FernandoAlonso
07-31-12, 13:54
I am not sure what ethical business and mongering have in common. At best of times it is a shady business with shady operators. Very often you do not get what you want, but in case of Ting Ting and Angel, I feel I got my money worth. I have not submitted as many posts as you have FA, but I am well travelled and experienced. I always travel with my family so my options are limited, and my risks are higher. I wish there was a thread devoted to people that have these limitations when exploring. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to get to know some of these agencies, different options or service providers as you suggest, and I suspect most people are in the same position, and have to take their chances. I think most of the contributors are not so naive as not to be aware of the fact that the photos are doctored, and indeed Angel or whoever she is confirmed that lot of the photos are fake, and few are real. When I mentioned that the same happens all the time in Toronto, she laughed. Indeed we both know what the rules of engagement are. I still stand by my recommendation, however, I agree with lot of the points you have made. If you have no time (not laziness!) to explore take your chances. Its part of the thrill and fun. I have to do this in Toronto all the time and I never get what I want, but sometimes I get more than I ask for.Val,
I said unethical business practice not unethical business. Let me be clear, I do not challenge you had a good experience, unfortunately we have for almost 2 years the situation here that Angel is writing and facilitating fake reports making less experienced people believe their outcall is the only option. At times we had 8 out of 10 reports here glorifying Angels friends. So some people including me got allergic to this. Now as I said it is very difficult to distinguish what posts are real and what are not. You gave some good insights e. G. In the fake pictures and if you look at her website you see immediately what is most likely real and what is way too professional. That is a balanced view making your recommendation a recommendation and not fake BS.
It seems she has a few girls who are good but she is specifically targeting foreigners and overcharges. Everybody wanting to you use her service is welcome I could not care less. But I care people get the full picture. Because that is what this site is for. Information so everybody can decide on his own.
IMHO Angel is not providing information but marketing disguised as real info. This I consider unethical. So she deserves the fire she gets from some seniors here as she created the situation herself.
And BTW there is a more ethical side to mongering like e. G. The freelancing Mongolians without intermediaries. The dark side is trafficking and that is not unheard of by some outcall providers. But I have no knowledge regarding this and Angel so do not misread me again.
Wish you having fun with the hobby, pm if you ever come to BJ again.
FA
[QUOTE=Teppenyaki; 1309713]I just went back home from Beijing after one week business trip.
I had Snow twice, because she`s very friendly, speaks good english, and loves sex very much. She also claimed she liked me enough to accept a late call at midnight, arriving in the hotel room at 1. 30 AM.
Snow is not a stunning beauty, but quite nice lady with soft boobs, with 100% GFE attitude. She started BJ in the shower, with a lot of french kisses and likes to try any sex position you like (except AF).
Hi Teppenyaki,
I'm intrested in the rates you paid or bargained. Could you send me this (or per PM). Did you try also different escrots. I'm back in Beijing next week and happy to test also the excorts.
Thanks in advance.
Stebra
FwStallion
07-31-12, 15:22
Hi Bro pekshy.
As there is political transitions coming up, a lot of the shops would be more careful.
You can always try the outcall services such as Fiona at the following location.
You can be assured of at least some girls to be found and should be to your pleasure especially the more recent ones like Aya or Lulu if you prefer those not too experienced. Called fiona at the numbers located on her web.
Hope this helps on the situation.
RegardsApologies as blog name did not come out unlike the rest.
You can try fiona's blog.
Her details and numbers are there.
Search.
BEIJING-FIONA-BLOG-COM
Hi Rudolf2010,
Just wondering if you still had the contact info for the below? I'm a serious breast man and would really appreciate it. Thanks!
Visited "The Pig" the other night. I must admit, there were plenty of action to be had. It wasn't long until I was chatted up. Take out menu was good with GFE except Greek, however, I think it's on the menu should I want to participate again.
Looks: 8.
Body: 8, 2 handfuls on each hooter, very nice for an Asian.
Fun factor: 9, open CIM.
Still have the digit and happy to share.
Teppenyaki
08-01-12, 03:41
[QUOTE=Teppenyaki; 1309713]I just went back home from Beijing after one week business trip.
I had Snow twice, because she`s very friendly, speaks good english, and loves sex very much. She also claimed she liked me enough to accept a late call at midnight, arriving in the hotel room at 1. 30 AM.
Snow is not a stunning beauty, but quite nice lady with soft boobs, with 100% GFE attitude. She started BJ in the shower, with a lot of french kisses and likes to try any sex position you like (except AF).
Hi Teppenyaki,
I'm intrested in the rates you paid or bargained. Could you send me this (or per PM). Did you try also different escrots. I'm back in Beijing next week and happy to test also the excorts.
Thanks in advance.
StebraMy pleasure, Stebra.
For two hours service (two pops) it was 1000 RMB including taxi since 1hr trip was required for her to reach my hotel. If you will stay in the central Beijing total price may be lower. But please discuss with Angel the details.
T.
Natalie,
Just send a PM to BadBoyBilly, he can help on all your requests, the rest hanging out here is either Angel in disguise or to old and ugly (including me) to satisfy 2 lovely ladies.
He also knows the good places to find entertainment, namely Chocolate and Maggies, depending on your nationality.
And photos may help too.
FA.
PS: What happens to this board? This is getting way to weird.FernandoAlonso thanks for your message, I'll use your advice and write to BBB. About photos. I'd like to find interesting persons not in this forum but in the place cause I believe only my eyes&hands. I've read lot of links and articles about nightlife in Beijing but the problem is that some places are full of Chinese and foreign students, for us it's not interesting. In perfect way. Drinks&dance&listening good live music but people not 18-20 years, I prefer "hunting" and "fishing" for normal foreigners cause next morning I'll have no problem both are adults to understand it was only 1 night for pleasure. Speaking 3 languages so no problem in connection.
P. S. Sometimes it's really not so easy to find really good person for sex, cause a lot of reason: at first,"no I don't go to this girl cause its possibility that I'll not have a sex with her or it will be probably but I need to spend power&time so its easier to find a prostitute", at second "she is beautiful of course she has someone", at third fear to be rejected.
So we will be not so much days in Beijing to make experiments and want to make a list of these places.
FernandoAlonso thanks for your message, I'll use your advice and write to BBB. About photos. I'd like to find interesting persons not in this forum but in the place cause I believe only my eyes&hands. I've read lot of links and articles about nightlife in Beijing but the problem is that some places are full of Chinese and foreign students, for us it's not interesting. In perfect way. Drinks&dance&listening good live music but people not 18-20 years, I prefer "hunting" and "fishing" for normal foreigners cause next morning I'll have no problem both are adults to understand it was only 1 night for pleasure. Speaking 3 languages so no problem in connection.
P. S. Sometimes it's really not so easy to find really good person for sex, cause a lot of reason: at first,"no I don't go to this girl cause its possibility that I'll not have a sex with her or it will be probably but I need to spend power&time so its easier to find a prostitute", at second "she is beautiful of course she has someone", at third fear to be rejected.
So we will be not so much days in Beijing to make experiments and want to make a list of these places.Well the first place that comes to mind that suits these two ladies would be Xiu. Apart from the fact that Chocolate and Maggie's are a too little sleazy (in comparison)
Apart from that, there's Salsa Caribe if you're into latin dancing and the new Bali Club in Sanlitun and some live music places in Nanluoguxiang.
Element and Lantern near the Worker's Stadium also cater to a slightly more upmarket crowd too.
Spark at The Place is also potentially recommended.
Frankly the easiest way to find places you like is to pick up any free copy of thebeijinger. City Weekend Beijing, or TimeOut Beijing and you're good to go. There are a fair bit of good proper clubs to pick off their lists.
Natalie,
Just send a PM to BadBoyBilly, he can help on all your requests, the rest hanging out here is either Angel in disguise or to old and ugly (including me) to satisfy 2 lovely ladies.
He also knows the good places to find entertainment, namely Chocolate and Maggies, depending on your nationality.
And photos may help too.
FA.
PS: What happens to this board? This is getting way to weird.Hey Hey FA speak for yourself, BBB is not the only option, and besides he is not always in town.
Be kind my friend, remember the contact I gave you in HK, photo etc.
BTW you never did say how that went, interested to know about that.
Hope she didn't shorten your life expectancy? How's your heart hahaha.
PM me with some details if you don't want to go public.
I was down there last month but was a rushed trip, still didn't try her.
Visited "The Pig" the other night. I must admit, there were plenty of action to be had. It wasn't long until I was chatted up. Take out menu was good with GFE except Greek, however, I think it's on the menu should I want to participate again.
Looks: 8.
Body: 8, 2 handfuls on each hooter, very nice for an Asian.
Fun factor: 9, open CIM.
Still have the digit and happy to share.Seems I can't PM you for the number mate, you don't or can't receive at the moment?
Can you PM me or give some info here?
I just thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth on Angel. I have used her service 5 or 6 times over the past couple of years. I happen to be in Beijing 3 or 4 times a year and I call Angel if my regular contacts don't work out. This past June I was there and I called and asked about a couple that I liked the looks of off of her blog. She said they were not available when I wanted them and she suggested a different time. The suggested time would not work out for me so she asked what type girl I was looking for. I gave her my criteria which is small, long hair, and OK English. She said that her long haired girls don't speak very good English but gave me a couple of names that were small with long hair but limited English. Their photo was not on the blog so I asked her to send photos. She did and I selected the one that I have attached. I don't remember the name. When she showed, it was the girl in the photo and as described. Small, long hair, limited English. In the end, a good time was had by all. Bottom line is, Angel will work with you and send REAL photos ahead of time if you ask.
FernandoAlonso
08-01-12, 15:28
Hey Hey FA speak for yourself, BBB is not the only option, and besides he is not always in town.
Be kind my friend, remember the contact I gave you in HK, photo etc.
BTW you never did say how that went, interested to know about that.
Hope she didn't shorten your life expectancy? How's your heart hahaha.
PM me with some details if you don't want to go public.
I was down there last month but was a rushed trip, still didn't try her.Dynamic
That was a joke!
On the other case I never made it to Xianggan. You are not forgotten.
FA
Apologies as blog name did not come out unlike the rest.
You can try fiona's blog.
Her details and numbers are there.
Search.
BEIJING-FIONA-BLOG-COMThank's a lot FwStallion, found the web-site. Do have they have only outcall? (because can't bring the girl home to appartment). Do they speak some English? What are the going rates?
The Lotus Club is in an apartment, its not a storefront operation. I haven't been, but I've added them on QQ. You need to make an appointment and then they tell the specific address. So, yeah, you wouldn't notice it by walking around the neighborhood.Thanks for info Laobaixing.
Do they speak English?
Has anybody experience? Especially is it save?
Bad Boy Billy
08-01-12, 22:38
Natalie,
Just send a PM to BadBoyBilly, he can help on all your requests, the rest hanging out here is either Angel in disguise or to old and ugly (including me) to satisfy 2 lovely ladies.That may well be the smartest post that FA has ever put up. YES Natalie. Bad Boy Billy (BBB) will certainly be your best bet. He is tall, handsome, debonair, intelligent. Quite the man of the world really. May well be the man of your dreams Nat. So go ahead. Pm him. He will give you an experience you will cherish forever.
PS: What happens to this board? This is getting way to weird.Looks like it's on the improve to me. Girlies in here now seeking BBB out. You can't beat that.
FernandoAlonso thanks for your message, I'll use your advice and write to BBB.Very sensible decision. BBB will certainly look after you. Just click on BBB's name and send him a private message. I know he is waiting for you.
About photos. I'd like to find interesting persons not in this forum but in the place cause I believe only my eyes&hands.BBB loves photos. BBB has lots of photos. Again send him a pm and he will probably give you an email address so you can email him your naked pictures.
Hey Hey FA speak for yourself, BBB is not the only option,No but he is the best option.
That may well be the smartest post that FA has ever put up. YES Natalie. Bad Boy Billy (BBB) will certainly be your best bet. He is tall, handsome, debonair, intelligent. Quite the man of the world really. May well be the man of your dreams Nat. So go ahead. Pm him. He will give you an experience you will cherish forever.
Looks like it's on the improve to me. Girlies in here now seeking BBB out. You can't beat that.
Very sensible decision. BBB will certainly look after you. Just click on BBB's name and send him a private message. I know he is waiting for you.
BBB loves photos. BBB has lots of photos. Again send him a pm and he will probably give you an email address so you can email him your naked pictures.
No but he is the best option.Talk about Angels self promotion on this forum, Billy how could you post such blatantly false information?
No point in suggesting a share, I've seen you grab all the lollies before.
And yes I do concede you are the best option, owing to your considerably larger. Wallet!
Good luck mate, we will be expecting a report of course?
Well the first place that comes to mind that suits these two ladies would be Xiu. Apart from the fact that Chocolate and Maggie's are a too little sleazy (in comparison)
Apart from that, there's Salsa Caribe if you're into latin dancing and the new Bali Club in Sanlitun and some live music places in Nanluoguxiang.
Element and Lantern near the Worker's Stadium also cater to a slightly more upmarket crowd too.
Spark at The Place is also potentially recommended.
Frankly the easiest way to find places you like is to pick up any free copy of thebeijinger. City Weekend Beijing, or TimeOut Beijing and you're good to go. There are a fair bit of good proper clubs to pick off their lists.Nameci, thanks! I put names in my list. I'm reading thebeijinger from yesterday but not finished yet.
That may well be the smartest post that FA has ever put up. YES Natalie. Bad Boy Billy (BBB) will certainly be your best bet. He is tall, handsome, debonair, intelligent. Quite the man of the world really. May well be the man of your dreams Nat. So go ahead. Pm him. He will give you an experience you will cherish forever.
Looks like it's on the improve to me. Girlies in here now seeking BBB out. You can't beat that.
Very sensible decision. BBB will certainly look after you. Just click on BBB's name and send him a private message. I know he is waiting for you.
BBB loves photos. BBB has lots of photos. Again send him a pm and he will probably give you an email address so you can email him your naked pictures.
No but he is the best option.Best advertisement I've read this week! . Mmmm even better than tender rabbit flesh baked in cream sauce with young potato in hunting restaurant yesterday.
But I need to go down from dream's heaven. I cannot send BBB or BadboyBill PM system writes me that BBB has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him / her.
If you are trying to send this message to multiple recipients, remove BBB from the recipient list and send the message again.
Same for nickname BadboyBill.
Tried Sarah from Fiona's outcall service. First, it is not the girl pictured in the blog, but does have similar body-tall and slim. Nice face. Attractive presence. But I soon discovered a deal breaker for me: sagging breasts.like deflated balloons. Surprising for a 20-something to have such unfirm melons. Service overall so-so. Fiona's overall arrangements were professional.
Has anybody experience with the (sauna) places in "Beijing Night life guide" website?Hi,
Yep, I do. Just tried to figure Out all recommendations with a french friend. I could say. Forget every link and recommendation there. Finally we ended in a High class think. No one could speak One Word english. So, Forget all The mentioned locations in this Guide.
Stebra
El Frances
08-02-12, 21:32
Since I have adopted this firefox add on, I have a lot of fun checking supplier's websites and finding pictures of Japanese, Chinese or Korean models:
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/image-lookup/
Install it on your firefox browser and you will understand why the girl you wanted last night was not available.
ConquerorVal
08-03-12, 01:32
After my disappointing experience in Sanya, me and my family took a flight to Beijng. Somehow, I got separated from my wife and the kid, and ended up sitting beside a young woman. While wearing headphones she was singing along in a language I did not hear before. After the girl initiated a conversation, I asked her what language she sang in. She told me she was Mongolian. After reading your post about Mongolian girls in Beijing, I asked her where she lived. Well, she said she lived close to the Workman's Stadium. All of the bells starting to ring and flags pop up. Before, I joined this site, I was pretty clueless regarding mongering in Beijing. I am more familiar with Hong Kong easy menu approach, Dutch Antilles, Holland and Toronto services. Thanks to reading all the forum entries regarding Beijing, I was able to guide my conversation in the right direction. My next question was whether she has been to Maggies. Of course she has,
And she told me about some of the other favorite mongering places. After she provided me with some additional interesting information regarding Maggies I asked her directly whether she was a WG. When she said yes, more than flags started to pop up, and I asked her for a phone number. I told her it was impossible for me to visit Maggies, as my freedom of movement was limited (she saw my family). So, we set up an incall at her place. With some underhanded maneuvering I managed to have my hotel room to myself, and asked her to come to the hotel. She said she would and asked me how much I would give her. I asked her to give me a fair price and I would accept it. She said 1500 RMBs. Wow. That is a lot of money for China. But, I figured what the hell-if I convert it to Canadian dollars it would still be a good deal. So, I said ok if I would get couple of hours and couple of shots with her. She said ok. When I went down to the lobby.
To pick her up. Wow again. She looked beautiful. She was not wearing her incognito outfit she wore on the plane. She was no petite Chinese. When we got to the room, I barely locked the door and she was already undressed. The body was a perfect 10, beautiful breasts, ass and shaved all over. Needless, to say getting two shots off was no problem. Doing DATY was a pure joy, and her BBBJ was wonderful. First session ended with a missionary (I hate missionary) , and second was a wonderful cowgirl position. All in all I spend about an hour and a half with her. She was a wonderful 28 year old, and shared some of her personal trials and tribulations, as well as photos from her homeland. Apparently, she has had couple of boyfriends, and does this work on self employed casual basis. In the fall she plans to resume her studies. The whole experience was great, as more than sex was involved and added an additional dimension to the.
Encounter. I guess it's a pretty rare chance to meet a WG on the plane with your family behind you and to shag a Maggies girl without actually going to Maggies. Even though pricey I felt it was worthwhile, and thanks to the forum I was able to pull this off. I will definitely be renewing my membership!
P. S. I got an email from her today. To keep in touch. I love it!
ConquerorVal
08-03-12, 01:52
FA.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate it, and may take your pm offer next time I am in Beijing.
FreebieFan
08-03-12, 02:03
Since I have adopted this firefox add on, I have a lot of fun checking supplier's websites and finding pictures of Japanese, Chinese or Korean models:
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/image-lookup/
Install it on your firefox browser and you will understand why the girl you wanted last night was not available.TinyEye will do the same for you also.
I'm new here, but not new to BJ. The thing to be careful with is that these sweet 'students' are often hooked up thugs and gangsters who are the muscle in their scams. Proceed with caution I say.
Regarding the art student / tea scam. When I lived in Beijing around Olympics time I was approached in the foreign language bookstore, an average looking girl but a great rack and good English. She had recently arrived from Henan or somewhere and was struggling in Beijing. Anyway, I got her number, and about a month later she called me asking to meet. Before long she was a regular freebie.
These are naive girls who have not thought through or realise the immorality of the scam, just get their number and get in touch with them again sometime later. They are a good source of freebie recruitment.
I told her it was impossible for me to visit Maggies, as my freedom of movement was limited (she saw my family). So, we set up an incall at her place. With some underhanded maneuvering I managed to have my hotel room to myself, and asked her to come to the hotel.You are a courageous man. Kudos!
Levitian
Gualtier Malde
08-03-12, 10:01
I had an unusual case of temporary bachelorhood this week, so I wandered over to Lido to see what might be happening at The Pig. As I entered the mall, A girl from a group of suspiciously professional looking girls got up from her table at Starbucks and approached me in the hallway. She unabashedly offered herself to me. I was a little surprised by her aggressiveness, but she was not attractive to me at all. Too tall, too heavy, too 1950's in her outfit. On I went to the bar.
Of course, it was completely empty. No sense even walking in.
So back out I walked, and again was approached by one of the girls. This one was totally cute. Petite, toned, very young, and seemed somewhat nervous and inexperienced in her demeanor. She offered herself. I explained that I didn't stay at the hotel, she would have to come to my home. She asked 1000. I immediately said no, I would only give her 600, which I considered generous. She must have agreed, because she accepted without a blink.
So off we went. She was nervous in the car, nervous when we entered my home. But after a few kisses, she relaxed. We showered together, and on to the races. She was a hottie in and out of the sack.
Long story short, check out the Starbucks in Lido, go for the petite young cutie.
I'll probably be out and about somewhere tonight. It's my last night of freedom for a while.
GM.
Ps: dated a new Weixin (WeChat) cutie this week too. Met her in a public place, she arrived in clothes that I swear were painted on, and she had a totally tight body. She was wearing blue jean shorts so short that the pockets poked out the bottom. And she made them look so hot. Unfortunately, she was otherwise completely G Rated, allowing only a light kiss on the cheek at the end of an otherwise very pleasant evening.
They aren't all going to put out on the first date, but dinner and conversation with a 10, with the certainty of future dates, isn't all that bad!
FernandoAlonso
08-03-12, 15:31
After my disappointing experience in Sanya, me and my family took a flight to Beijng. Somehow, I got separated from my wife and the kid, and ended up sitting beside a young woman. While wearing headphones she was singing along in a language I did not hear before. After the girl initiated a conversation, I asked her what language she sang in. She told me she was Mongolian. After reading your post about Mongolian girls in Beijing, I asked her where she lived. Well, she said she lived close to the Workman's Stadium. All of the bells starting to ring and flags pop up. Before, I joined this site, I was pretty clueless regarding mongering in Beijing. I am more familiar with Hong Kong easy menu approach, Dutch Antilles, Holland and Toronto services. Thanks to reading all the forum entries regarding Beijing, I was able to guide my conversation in the right direction. My next question was whether she has been to Maggies. Of course she has,
And she told me about some of the other favorite mongering places. After she provided me with some additional interesting information regarding Maggies I asked her directly whether she was a WG. When she said yes, more than flags started to pop up, and I asked her for a phone number. I told her it was impossible for me to visit Maggies, as my freedom of movement was limited (she saw my family). So, we set up an incall at her place. With some underhanded maneuvering I managed to have my hotel room to myself, and asked her to come to the hotel. She said she would and asked me how much I would give her. I asked her to give me a fair price and I would accept it. She said 1500 RMBs. Wow. That is a lot of money for China. But, I figured what the hell-if I convert it to Canadian dollars it would still be a good deal. So, I said ok if I would get couple of hours and couple of shots with her. She said ok. When I went down to the lobby.
To pick her up. Wow again. She looked beautiful. She was not wearing her incognito outfit she wore on the plane. She was no petite Chinese. When we got to the room, I barely locked the door and she was already undressed. The body was a perfect 10, beautiful breasts, ass and shaved all over. Needless, to say getting two shots off was no problem. Doing DATY was a pure joy, and her BBBJ was wonderful. First session ended with a missionary (I hate missionary) , and second was a wonderful cowgirl position. All in all I spend about an hour and a half with her. She was a wonderful 28 year old, and shared some of her personal trials and tribulations, as well as photos from her homeland. Apparently, she has had couple of boyfriends, and does this work on self employed casual basis. In the fall she plans to resume her studies. The whole experience was great, as more than sex was involved and added an additional dimension to the.
Encounter. I guess it's a pretty rare chance to meet a WG on the plane with your family behind you and to shag a Maggies girl without actually going to Maggies. Even though pricey I felt it was worthwhile, and thanks to the forum I was able to pull this off. I will definitely be renewing my membership!
P. S. I got an email from her today. To keep in touch. I love it!Val,
It did not take you long to find the best in Beijing, congratulations, all perfectly executed! This is exactly how it should be done. You got lucky, actually very lucky.
And just to be the ass I am, here some unasked for advice. Never do incall in your hotel when wife is in town, NEVER ever. Go to a Haiting or Super 8. Special is around 100 RMB for 4 hours, bring your passport, no questions will be asked and you are guaranteed wife is not back pre-mature because child was sick, it started raining or or or. This was asking for disaster. You just got lucky. Ask her use her home, I have some nice memories shagging in Mongolian shared apartments (sometimes secretly from the other girls) , she will find a way. But do not take such a risk.
The price you paid for 2 shots is not bad at this point in time, I personally find it too much but as said it is not outside what they ask and get at the moment, sometimes it is even only for one shot. And keep the relationship via email, even if she is not available she will have a friend serving you if you come back. She must like you as she shared pictures and stories (when did you do that in 90 minutes including 2 shots BTW) and will be happy to have you as a friend. So you laid very good grounds for future good times in Beijing.
And of course she is neither 28 nor a student, but who cares!
Kudos again my friend and welcome to the club, if you like send me a pm with her name, maybe I know her. And have you thought why she was in a plane from Sanya? Holiday with a boyfriend most likely because the Northern Sisters never would go for holiday at the beach, most cannot even swim.
Absolutely classical, one must love them all.
FA
HarveyDujardin
08-04-12, 05:43
My first post here, I hope future ones will be more positive.
So with my regular haunts closed I decided to check out Tiantongyuan. After walking around the neighborhood for a while I went into a bbs where one of the girls "distracted" me while the other went through my backpack and fished out my wallet. After some heated discussion I got back my wallet, minus RMB700. I was a bit insecure and didn't know if there would be a "boyfriend" around the corner so at this point I cut my losses and split.
I wish I could be more specific about the location, but if you continue east after the pedestrian bridge from the subway and turn north onto the main "shopping alley" it is one of the bbs's on the right hand side. If I remember right, it had a pink / purple divider curtain.
If your a regular of the area, feel free to tell them my story and explain how this is "bad for business". Be safe and don't carry any more money then you are willing to lose.
Bad Boy Billy
08-04-12, 06:19
I will be in BJ 5 nights Aug 9 to 14. Any of the usual clowns going to be about?
Sammy? Jesse? FA? Teddy? OAH? Angel? Kitty?
Gualtier Malde
08-05-12, 06:56
I will be in BJ 5 nights Aug 9 to 14. Any of the usual clowns going to be about?
Sammy? Jesse? FA? Teddy? OAH? Angel? Kitty?I'll try (again) to be available. Keep me on your PM list when coordinating a meet.
GM.
My first post here, I hope future ones will be more positive.
So with my regular haunts closed I decided to check out Tiantongyuan. After walking around the neighborhood for a while I went into a bbs where one of the girls "distracted" me while the other went through my backpack and fished out my wallet. After some heated discussion I got back my wallet, minus RMB700. I was a bit insecure and didn't know if there would be a "boyfriend" around the corner so at this point I cut my losses and split.
I wish I could be more specific about the location, but if you continue east after the pedestrian bridge from the subway and turn north onto the main "shopping alley" it is one of the bbs's on the right hand side. If I remember right, it had a pink / purple divider curtain.
If your a regular of the area, feel free to tell them my story and explain how this is "bad for business". Be safe and don't carry any more money then you are willing to lose.Alternatively, never never lose sight of your wallet. This includes hanging your shirt, coat or vest in a wardrobe. It is not unknown for these to have a false back. Many a punter has been fleeced, because of false backed wardrobes.
Just my advice.
P13.
* I would make a brief exception to this rule, the "sprint to the finish" exception. For some reason, best known to evolutionary biologists, I close my eyes when I am within sight of the finish line, and for the brief moment when I cross the finish line! .
ConquerorVal
08-05-12, 16:56
FA.
Thanks again for your good advice and information. I do feel like a novice, even though I had been mongering for some time, but more at a local level. Your advice regarding getting another room in a hotel is great, unfortunately, I did not think of this at the time. Also, I would not know which hotels to go to. Now I do. I obviously have lots to learn. And you are right, I should have gone to her apartment. I did the same crazy thing couple of days later with Ting Ting, only to find out my wife and my kid were sightseeing only10 minutes walk away from the hotel. Will not take this unecessary risk again. To answer your question regarding all the personal information that my Mongolian princess shared-it actually took place during the flight. She showed me all these photos on her iPad, and she did tell me she went to Sanya to spend a weekend with a friend she had not seen for couple of years. So that piece of information kind of fit the puzzle. You are also correct about keeping the contact alive. That is a very good suggestion, as she said she was planning to quit the business in couple of years or so, and I come to China only every two years. I will pm her name to you.
Val
Laobaixing
08-05-12, 17:00
There's a fairly reliable FS massage place on the south west corner of Beixingqiao. Right next to the south west subway exit is a small park. Its in the building right next to the park. The door of the massage place isn't facing the street, but is off of a driveway into an apartment block, but you can see it from the street. Its right across the street from a ginormous court building.
The service there is fairly reliable at 500 rmb FS. The girls cycle in and out, and range from overweight and unappealing to completely gorgeous with most being somewhere in the 6-7 range. Its right on the west edge of guijie, so you can expect to wait for service if you go on a Friday or Saturday night.
Hi fellow mongers,
If anyone has information about any 5 star saunas with FS I would appreciate if he can shares public or via PM. My previous experience with Beijing is Magies but after my last visit I was disappointed with the quality there and I want to try something else. I've seen in some posts the "BLOSSOM SEASONS INTERNATIONAL CLUB" but I didn't see any detailed report from there. Two reports are actually trying to explain the scene but I get confused. Seems that foreigners are not welcome there? To my surprise I found the place in a catalogue of luxury 5 star SPAs (legitimate) and I am not convinced that this place offers FS.
Thanks in advance!
FernandoAlonso
08-05-12, 18:42
FA.
Thanks again for your good advice and information. I do feel like a novice, even though I had been mongering for some time, but more at a local level. Your advice regarding getting another room in a hotel is great, unfortunately, I did not think of this at the time. Also, I would not know which hotels to go to. Now I do. I obviously have lots to learn. And you are right, I should have gone to her apartment. I did the same crazy thing couple of days later with Ting Ting, only to find out my wife and my kid were sightseeing only10 minutes walk away from the hotel. Will not take this unecessary risk again. To answer your question regarding all the personal information that my Mongolian princess shared-it actually took place during the flight. She showed me all these photos on her iPad, and she did tell me she went to Sanya to spend a weekend with a friend she had not seen for couple of years. So that piece of information kind of fit the puzzle. You are also correct about keeping the contact alive. That is a very good suggestion, as she said she was planning to quit the business in couple of years or so, and I come to China only every two years. I will pm her name to you.
ValWe have all been new at one time, some of us are retired, but helping with advice is the whole point here. You made a good entry with sharing great info so honor and help to whom who earned it.
Welcome here.
FA
FernandoAlonso
08-05-12, 18:50
Hi fellow mongers,
If anyone has information about any 5 star saunas with FS I would appreciate if he can shares public or via PM. Me previous experience with Beijing is Magies but after my last visit I was disappointed with the quality there and I want to try something else. I'vee seen in some posts the "BLOSSOM SEASONS INTERNATIONAL CLUB" but I didn't see any detailed report from there. To my surprise I found the place in a catalogue of luxury 5 star SPAs (legitimate) and I am not convinced that this place offers FS.
Thanks in advance!Have many, hope you have your little red book ready for access.
Joking aside if you plan to come before November better go somewhere else, as you surely read this forum intensive you know that most things are down to regular service only.
Sorry, tough times for all of us.
FA
Jude Bright
08-05-12, 19:58
Was in Beijing for two days a couple weeks ago and had a chance to visit this incall place recommended by a friend here. I did not know if it is just my bad luck or something else. This gal named &36713; &20799; (or Xuan 'Er) & her last contact number is 13611047394. Called her up and followed direction to a hotel at about 3 pm, a nice hotel though. But she was in a very bad mood and qoute me. 300 for a quick shot. 400 include CBJ and 800 for BBBJ. I choosed 400, she get out a cover, put on me and start CBJ for less than 5 minutes. Then asked me to get on top of her and hurried me to finish fast. Then she pushed me finished fast again, at this point, I was lost my interest and finished in just a couple minutes. She clean up right a way and asked me to leave. Her voice was so high and I am afraid something will happen. I did not want ot get in trouble and left in the room immediately. I was there for less than 15 minutes. I think one of the mistake I made was I gave her the money after she strip off, just just before our action started. I know I know I should not give her the money before the action. But, she act like a nice girl before I hand over the money. She even did not ask for the money before we both get naked. Just before she start the CBJ, she said she want to make sure If I had the money. Only at that time, I put the money on the table. Once she saw the money was on the table. Her attitude changed immediately. Ayway, If someone want to a cheap quick shot in beijing, here is one. The place is nice and she is young, about 20, I think and have a 5 to 6 looking. However, I will not repeat
JB
Member #4387
08-05-12, 23:49
I put the money on the table. Once she saw the money was on the table. Her attitude changed immediately. Ayway, If someone want to a cheap quick shot in beijing, here is one. The place is nice and she is young, about 20, I think and have a 5 to 6 looking. However, I will not repeat
JBWow major mistake to let the money come between you and the girl. This has happened to a lot of us but I am sure we learn as we monger. As a WG her only motivation is money and the easier way the better from her point of view. She wants your money for as little effort as possible. The trick of getting naked is to make you feel guilty if you would change your mind and want to leave. You will allready then feel obliged to give her sth. As you visited her she could not use the "transportation card" because they are zero.
Work out the deal up front with clothes on. You tell her what you like her to do / she tell what kind of service she provides. Work out a business agreement wich both can "sign in on". Then you can tell her if she puts a little effort into it you might throw in some extras (motivationmoney) as in tip.
This is not critisism of you. Just a piece of advice (I will guess you hear from others as well). Money should not be shown upfront. It is a quick attitude changer for her bcs she probably knows how to make a scene as well so you would rather just run the hell out of there. Atleast she let you in for some real pussy action. In my first year as a chaser for NSA action (I am not refering this to your mongering experience) I did almost the same as you. We agreed whats on offer and at what cost. We got to the room and I paid her everything before getting undressed. Long story short. I ended up with zero pussy action and a case of most likely faked illnessacting and me leaving with less money. Educational.
Gualtier Malde
08-06-12, 05:37
Does anyone know if the parlors in Van Palace are still open during the remodel of the lobby? I visited yesterday but saw now way to get inside. Yet looking at the upper floors, it seems only the first floor is being remodeled. But a major remodel it is. Is there an entrance somewhere to get to the upper floors? I find it hard to believe they would shut down and clear out the whole place just to remodel the lobby.
GM.
Have many, hope you have your little red book ready for access.
Joking aside if you plan to come before November better go somewhere else, as you surely read this forum intensive you know that most things are down to regular service only.
Sorry, tough times for all of us.
FAHi FA, limitation to regular service is well understood. Is that mainly in this area and also effecting hotel guests?
May be PM communication is advised?
Thanks to an expert, like to meet you one day.
Gregory
In the past few weeks, I visited three MPs in Chaoyang. Here is a short report.
1. Dongzhimen foot museum just west of the intersection of dong zhi men the jie and Chun xiu lu. It has been reviewed in this forum before. Although it's in the basement, the place is quite clean, has a small shower in the rooms and fairly open about their services. 300 for massage+HJ (shoujiao) , and 400 for breast massage (xiong tui). You can tell what you want right at the counter or once you are in the room, so no need to negotiate after starting the massage (which always kills my mood). I asked for a breast massage and they sent me a masseuse who had very nice breasts (a large C, may be even a D) and pleasant. She said she was 27. She is not what I'd call thin, but she was not fat either. After about 1/2 hour of regular massage, she turned down the light (the rooms have small glass windows) , removed her top and panties (kept her skirt though) , but was quite open to be touched. Perfect breasts for a breast massage with dark perky nipples. First she teased with her breasts and then got quite vigorous. After about 15 minutes of this, we both realized that I was not going to come this way, so she got into a kneeling (like a 69, but on her knees, no mouth contact, but I could finger her while she stroked me) and turned on a light to give me a view. She was quite wet and seemed like she even had a mini orgasm. After cleaning up, I gave her a generous 100 rmb tip and she gave me her phone number and ask for her next time. She said that none of the girls do BJ or FS. Not sure if she would if you call her for a takeout. This is a place I will repeat.
2. Maizidian: Go east on Nong zhan guan bei lu from the 3rd ring road. You'll come to the intersection with Mai zi dian jie. There are a number of MPs here. At the intersection, turn left (north) into Maizidian, you'll see an MP with 2 lions at the entrance to your left. I do not believe this place has been mentioned in this forum. There is a counter at the entrance, but the rooms are upstairs. This place seems a bit formal, so I just asked for a basic oil massage at the counter (168rmb I think). Although a bit run down, the theécor suggests that this place may have seen better days. My room was quite large, it had a shower as well as a separate bathtub and sink, and a real massage table. The masseuse was in a light blue uniform. 24, quite pretty and spoke some English. After 1/2 hour of regular massage, during which she was quite formal though chatty, she started touching in a way suggesting more is available. She wanted 300 for a HJ and I finally talked her down to 200 (I am not a good negotiator). She did let me grope her, but would not take anything off. She put a towel over me and would only stroke me under the towel, pointing to the glass window on the door. She did a pretty nice job, slow, fast, soft, tight and took her time. But she also kept glancing at the window, so I wonder if what's on the menu may change depending on the girl. After finishing, she continued the massage until the full allotted time (70 minutes, I think). I will probably repeat.
3. Chun xiu lu. If you go south on Chunxiulu from Dongzhimen dajie, you'll see a Holiday Inn to your right and a large Szechuan restaurant to your left. This massage place is right next to the restaurant and has big pictures of feet and signs saying massage. This place has been reviewed here before. The place itself is quite small. There was a very young girl at the counter, I chose the oil massage for 198 and then I was taken to a large room with several massage chairs right next to the entrance. This was not looking good. The masseuse came in, she was quite skinny and flat-chested, but seemed pleasant, so I decided to see what happens. I asked for a shower, the masseuse said I can take one upstairs after the massage and then started a regular massage. About 10 minutes later, there was a knock on the door saying that the shower was available, so the masseuse said we can go up. I was taken to a private room with a very small shower that you can barely fit in. Once there, she openly asked if I was interested in anything extra. The only things on offer was a clothed HJ and a nude HJ. She wanted 600 for a nude HJ and finally we agreed on 250. Even though there was a glass window on the door, she left the lights on, got completely naked, gave a little body to body massage and then a slow HJ to finish. From what I could see, this place has only a few rooms upstairs that are private and one large room with several massage chairs downstairs. The facilities are quite run down and I did not see any other girls who would rate more than a 5 or 6. Not worth repeating, though this place seems more open than the Maizidian place.
A general observation (and I'd like to hear others' opinions) : if it's not an obvious BBS, but is an MP, a general rule of thumb: if it has showers, the chances that it provides extra services is much higher.
Also, if anyone can PM me if any of the nicer saunas like Regency, Sunshine, ShiYi, Chunliu are still operating, I'll greatly appreciate it.
Hey guys. It's my first visit to mainland China, I only have today as a layover in Beijinh before leaving for Kashgar. Can anybody give me any pointers? I'm in the airport aulympic hotel, where would be the best place to find a girl around here?
You are a lucky man, Val.
Seems she's my type according to your description, the price is reasonable as well. So I'm wondering if you could share her contact with me.
I have PMed you. Anyway, thanks for your sharing.
ChinBro.
Encounter. I guess it's a pretty rare chance to meet a WG on the plane with your family behind you and to shag a Maggies girl without actually going to Maggies. Even though pricey I felt it was worthwhile, and thanks to the forum I was able to pull this off. I will definitely be renewing my membership!
P. S. I got an email from her today. To keep in touch. I love it!
As you live a bit far away from downtown and don't have much time, using outcall service may be your priority. Kitty and Angel are two reputable providers for outcall girls charging a reasonable price. CNY 600 for one shot / one hour, including cab.
By the way, their contacts will be seen in the 'classified' section.
ChinBro.
Hey guys. It's my first visit to mainland China, I only have today as a layover in Beijinh before leaving for Kashgar. Can anybody give me any pointers? I'm in the airport aulympic hotel, where would be the best place to find a girl around here?
FernandoAlonso
08-07-12, 12:27
You are a lucky man, Val.
Seems she's my type according to your description, the price is reasonable as well. So I'm wondering if you could share her contact with me.
I have PMed you. Anyway, thanks for your sharing.
ChinBro.In my modest opinion he not get lucky but did a good job in playing the game. I would have shit my trousers if my wife sits close to me and I would start flirting with a beautiful girl, even though I had similar airplane story long long time ago, what a goddess she was. But if you want meet her, if I am not mistaken you can find her and many other ladies every night after midnight in a place near Ritan Park South Exit. And the price was standard and not reasonable in my stingy opinion, but everyone as he likes.
FA
FernandoAlonso
08-07-12, 12:39
In the past few weeks, I visited three MPs in Chaoyang. Here is a short report.
1. Dongzhimen foot museum just west of the intersection of dong zhi men the jie and Chun xiu lu. It has been reviewed in this forum before. Although it's in the basement, the place is quite clean, has a small shower in the rooms and fairly open about their services. 300 for massage+HJ (shoujiao) , and 400 for breast massage (xiong tui). You can tell what you want right at the counter or once you are in the room, so no need to negotiate after starting the massage (which always kills my mood). I asked for a breast massage and they sent me a masseuse who had very nice breasts (a large C, may be even a D) and pleasant. She said she was 27. She is not what I'd call thin, but she was not fat either. After about 1/2 hour of regular massage, she turned down the light (the rooms have small glass windows) , removed her top and panties (kept her skirt though) , but was quite open to be touched. Perfect breasts for a breast massage with dark perky nipples. First she teased with her breasts and then got quite vigorous. After about 15 minutes of this, we both realized that I was not going to come this way, so she got into a kneeling (like a 69, but on her knees, no mouth contact, but I could finger her while she stroked me) and turned on a light to give me a view. She was quite wet and seemed like she even had a mini orgasm. After cleaning up, I gave her a generous 100 rmb tip and she gave me her phone number and ask for her next time. She said that none of the girls do BJ or FS. Not sure if she would if you call her for a takeout. This is a place I will repeat.
2. Maizidian: Go east on Nong zhan guan bei lu from the 3rd ring road. You'll come to the intersection with Mai zi dian jie. There are a number of MPs here. At the intersection, turn left (north) into Maizidian, you'll see an MP with 2 lions at the entrance to your left. I do not believe this place has been mentioned in this forum. There is a counter at the entrance, but the rooms are upstairs. This place seems a bit formal, so I just asked for a basic oil massage at the counter (168rmb I think). Although a bit run down, the theécor suggests that this place may have seen better days. My room was quite large, it had a shower as well as a separate bathtub and sink, and a real massage table. The masseuse was in a light blue uniform. 24, quite pretty and spoke some English. After 1/2 hour of regular massage, during which she was quite formal though chatty, she started touching in a way suggesting more is available. She wanted 300 for a HJ and I finally talked her down to 200 (I am not a good negotiator). She did let me grope her, but would not take anything off. She put a towel over me and would only stroke me under the towel, pointing to the glass window on the door. She did a pretty nice job, slow, fast, soft, tight and took her time. But she also kept glancing at the window, so I wonder if what's on the menu may change depending on the girl. After finishing, she continued the massage until the full allotted time (70 minutes, I think). I will probably repeat.
3. Chun xiu lu. If you go south on Chunxiulu from Dongzhimen dajie, you'll see a Holiday Inn to your right and a large Szechuan restaurant to your left. This massage place is right next to the restaurant and has big pictures of feet and signs saying massage. This place has been reviewed here before. The place itself is quite small. There was a very young girl at the counter, I chose the oil massage for 198 and then I was taken to a large room with several massage chairs right next to the entrance. This was not looking good. The masseuse came in, she was quite skinny and flat-chested, but seemed pleasant, so I decided to see what happens. I asked for a shower, the masseuse said I can take one upstairs after the massage and then started a regular massage. About 10 minutes later, there was a knock on the door saying that the shower was available, so the masseuse said we can go up. I was taken to a private room with a very small shower that you can barely fit in. Once there, she openly asked if I was interested in anything extra. The only things on offer was a clothed HJ and a nude HJ. She wanted 600 for a nude HJ and finally we agreed on 250. Even though there was a glass window on the door, she left the lights on, got completely naked, gave a little body to body massage and then a slow HJ to finish. From what I could see, this place has only a few rooms upstairs that are private and one large room with several massage chairs downstairs. The facilities are quite run down and I did not see any other girls who would rate more than a 5 or 6. Not worth repeating, though this place seems more open than the Maizidian place.
A general observation (and I'd like to hear others' opinions) : if it's not an obvious BBS, but is an MP, a general rule of thumb: if it has showers, the chances that it provides extra services is much higher.
Also, if anyone can PM me if any of the nicer saunas like Regency, Sunshine, ShiYi, Chunliu are still operating, I'll greatly appreciate it.Chris,
For a guy with 6 reports this is nice work, thank you and continue this. As a general rule the showers are mainly for the so called expensive spa massages and not a sure indicator for extras. Like everything in China, sometimes is, sometimes not. What you saw in Maizidian is a result of the crackdown. Many places there have been asked to close or at least behave. Same applies to the saunas as far as I know. But still a crackdown means the radar screen is lowered, not everything vanishes. Compared to 2008 it is still paradise and even then it was no real problem to get laid. Just takes more effort.
Best bet in these times is a phonebook with the right numbers, least effected are take out places and in calls but quality varies a lot there.
Wish you success.
FA
Hi guys, more by chance.someone did invite me for regular massage. I got to know.
A small but very clean MP, shower and toilet in the room. Its less than 10min walking distance.
From Yong Anli metro station. Standard is 200 / hr for regular oil massage 300/90min. Perfect.
Massage and more. Please PM if interested.
Gregory
IDontLikeRain
08-07-12, 16:38
Hello,
I'm french (sorry for my english) and I will be next week on business trip to Beijing for few days.
I'm a new member of this forum I have just discovered and through the Beijing folder I have noted some address like Angels.
My hotel will be the Kempinski and I'm more interested for girls to join join in my room
So have you some girls or agency to advise me with a real good Quality / Price rapport?
Last question : have you meet in Beijing girls who squirt?
Thank you for your help.
Titou
I will be on the lam the night of the 13th.
I will be in BJ 5 nights Aug 9 to 14. Any of the usual clowns going to be about?
Sammy? Jesse? FA? Teddy? OAH? Angel? Kitty?
Right, Val did a good job after reading the nice experiences and instructions contributed by you, FA and some other nice old birds, not just a lucky man.
Hah, I would also have shit my trousers in such situation if I were Val, an awesome man!
Well, I certainly do want to meet these gorgeous ladies, so would you be kind enough to PM me further infomation on this place? Your any advice will be much appreciated.
ChinBro.
In my modest opinion he not get lucky but did a good job in playing the game. I would have shit my trousers if my wife sits close to me and I would start flirting with a beautiful girl, even though I had similar airplane story long long time ago, what a goddess she was. But if you want meet her, if I am not mistaken you can find her and many other ladies every night after midnight in a place near Ritan Park South Exit. And the price was standard and not reasonable in my stingy opinion, but everyone as he likes.
FA
AlucardVanYang
08-07-12, 18:27
Hello everybody,
I was wondering if you could pm me some info regarding those hot mongolian contacts since I don't have time for maggies, last time I was there I saw a stunner black short curly hair didn't get her name since she was busy and then I didn't have any time to visit but I`ll be back for couple days but can't go out so if you could help me out I would appriciate it thanks.
Have many, hope you have your little red book ready for access.
Joking aside if you plan to come before November better go somewhere else, as you surely read this forum intensive you know that most things are down to regular service only.
Sorry, tough times for all of us.
FAWell, no red book since as I told my previous experience was only with Maggies.
FernandoAlonso
08-08-12, 04:49
Hello everybody,
I was wondering if you could pm me some info regarding those hot mongolian contacts since I don't have time for maggies, last time I was there I saw a stunner black short curly hair didn't get her name since she was busy and then I didn't have any time to visit but I`ll be back for couple days but can't go out so if you could help me out I would appriciate it thanks.Yes,
Me want too, but I need it tomorrow because I am really horny now and please with phone numbers photos, passport copies, residence permits, addresses in Beijing and UB and precise service descriptions of the ladies. And if you guys who took years to assemble this very private information are not willing to share you are all bad bad people. I will not like you all and tell my mom.
FA.
And send a copy of this info to the Vice Department Beijing Chaoyang District Police Station including your CV and which Chinese prison you would like to live in for the next couple of years, in case you are foreigner you can also pack all your important things and head to the airport for a one way flight out.
FernandoAlonso
08-08-12, 04:52
Right, Val did a good job after reading the nice experiences and instructions contributed by you, FA and some other nice old birds, not just a lucky man.
Hah, I would also have shit my trousers in such situation if I were Val, an awesome man!
Well, I certainly do want to meet these gorgeous ladies, so would you be kind enough to PM me further infomation on this place? Your any advice will be much appreciated.
ChinBro.Bro,
Thanks for calling me nice but old? You are beating BBBs insults. If you can not figure out the place in Beijing where Mongolian ladies congregate I recommend buying the lonely planet Beijing. It is even listed there. Or read this forum, it is talked about in about every other post not about Angel.
FA.
PS: It's called sarcasm, look it up.
BeijingCbc
08-08-12, 07:14
Hey guys,
Been browsing this forum for a while and thought its about time to contribute back to the community. I don't have a whole lot of cash to monger regularly so I tend to stick with the cheaper incalls, massage places, semi-pros and freebies whenever I can. I hope to post some reports for all you guys in the near future but in the meantime, here are some experiences / sources that I've come across in the last six months or so.
Angel's. I've used them a few times over the last couple months, usually late at night after failed attempts at picking up freebies at sanlitun or what not. I really have no complaints about the service. I usually just text Angel my requirements and she'll send me someone thats available and fits what I'm looking for, haven't been dissapointed so far with her selection for me either. In fact, Angel once reccomended that I hold off because she didn't have anyone that fit what I was looking for at the moment instead of sending me someone I wouldn't be happy with! The girls are usually around 6 or 7 (according to my taste) and provide BBBJ and multiple positions. I've had a couple that were into DFK as well. One shot of course but I've never felt rushed. Price is 500+100 for taxi.
If you're into Russians, mamba. Ru is a good website to check out (not sure if it's been reviewed before on here). They have an English version of the website but most girls on there speak very little English, thank god for Google Translate! I would say that the majority of girls on there aren't pros but if you have the patience to chat with them a bit, I've found that most of them are willing to work out an exchange of sorts. I negotiated 1000 for overnight with one around 30 years old a few weeks ago. Had to pick her up in a taxi by Lan Dao (Blue Island Mall) and then back to my place. Got two shots off at night and another in the morning. I've also chatted with some real stunners but their quotes were in excessive of 2000 for one shot!
If you can understand Chinese, then banwan. Com and zhantai. Com are very useful sources too. Zhantai is pretty much a Chinese craigslist and under the massage section, you can find incalls and outcalls ranging from 300 to 500 for FS. Outcalls from there are pretty much BBS shops and Incalls are pretty much girls from BBS shops making a house call. They'll usually provide a phone number or qq contact. The pictures they provide are almost always fake though some will allow you to view them on webcam through qq first before taking the plunge. Banwan is more expensive but you can find more part timers or students. They usually ask for anywhere between 500 to in the thousands of kuai. I did find one gem on there that I saw regularly for a couple months. She was a student in her early 20s. 800 for FS but a very genuine GFE, including DFK, BBBJ, DATY. Each session would last at least a couple hours and she was into cuddling and chatting afterwards. Sadly, she's no longer in Beijing.
I've also used a massage place based in Wangjing thats pretty consistent. I believe its the same place thats been reviewed on here many times as Wangjing 419 or 418. Their contact number starts with 6474. I've never been to the actual place but I do indulge in their incall services at time to time. Basic massage and HJ for 160+taxi fare. Girls are definitely not knockouts but are decent. They almost never completely disrobe and don't provide any extras but you really can't beat that price. Most that I've had will take their top and bra off and let you fondle them a bit but definitely no going south. Again, little to no English available but I have decent Chinese so its fine for me.
WeChat has definitely been talked about on here and I have had some success with it, but I prefer using Momo (Chinese is &38476; &38476. There's no English so you'll need to understand Chinese, but its pretty much a hook-up app for iOS and Android and you can definitely get much more results on there than WeChat. I haven't seen any pros on Momo as you might on WeChat though. All my experiences from Momo were freebies (meaning I had to wine and dine them at least once before getting anything) so in the end, not that free. Though there was one that I started chatting with in the morning, set up a lunch date at Sanlitun and we were in the sack by mid afternoon. Another was a 20 year old that I had been chatting with for a week. Met at Raffles City on the weekend in the afternoon and was doing the deed a few hours later. Its definitely worth checking out if you haven't yet. Immomo. Com.
Anyway, hope this post can be helpful to some of you. This is definitely a great place for information and I'm glad to finally be part of the community!
Fifty Shades
08-08-12, 13:33
Does anyone know if the parlors in Van Palace are still open during the remodel of the lobby? I visited yesterday but saw now way to get inside. Yet looking at the upper floors, it seems only the first floor is being remodeled. But a major remodel it is. Is there an entrance somewhere to get to the upper floors? I find it hard to believe they would shut down and clear out the whole place just to remodel the lobby.
GM.I happened to walk by van palace today, and there seemed to be a functioning entrance around the corner from the construction, on a side street at the south side of the building. Jinghua Danjie or something like that? I'm pretty sure it must have access to the clubs (one club opens right next to the entrance) and spas but I didn't go inside. Are any of those clubs or spas worthwhile?
Bad Boy Billy
08-08-12, 13:49
I will be in BJ 5 nights Aug 9 to 14. Any of the usual clowns going to be about?
Sammy? Jesse? FA? Teddy? OAH? Angel? Kitty?Sorry guys. Have decided to head to Angeles City aft of Aug 11 instead of staying in BJ. Next time hopefully.
I will be out and about with Miss Uzbekistan Thur night - dinner at my fvourite bar - you guys will know where to find me.
Will also be around Friday night with Black Beauty - hope to catch up to a few of you whilst in town.
I will be on the lam the night of the 13th.Goddamit man I though you had passed on. Now I am really disapponted I am not staying in town. Next time bro.
One Eyed Man
08-08-12, 14:46
I think one of the brothers said that the secret to inserting Chinese characters is going back and editing your post.
But absent that, you can convert the suckers. See the quote below:
WeChat has definitely been talked about on here and I have had some success with it, but I prefer using Momo (Chinese is &38476; &38476. There's no English so you'll need to understand Chinese, but its pretty much a hook-up app for iOS and Android and you can definitely get much more results on there than WeChat.We know &38476 is "mo," but which one?
Go to http://www.chinese-tools.com/tools/converter-unichar.html and add a "#" to &38476 to become 陌.
Now we know that &38476 is 陌.
OEM
Immomo. Com.
Anyway, hope this post can be helpful to some of you. This is definitely a great place for information and I'm glad to finally be part of the community!Nicely done for your first post. You do mean陌陌, yes?
Mmlouie
Bro,
Thanks for calling me nice but old? You are beating BBBs insults. If you can not figure out the place in Beijing where Mongolian ladies congregate I recommend buying the lonely planet Beijing. It is even listed there. Or read this forum, it is talked about in about every other post not about Angel.
FA.
PS: It's called sarcasm, look it up.Ok, thank you FA.
I think one of the brothers said that the secret to inserting Chinese characters is going back and editing your post.
But absent that, you can convert the suckers. See the quote below:
We know &38476 is "mo," but which one?
Go to.
http://www.chinese-tools.com/tools/converter-unichar.html
And add a "#" to &38476 to become &38476.
Now we know that &38476 is &38476; .
OEMUseful converter!
Nicely done for your first post. You do mean&38476; &38476; , yes?
MmlouieYes, I've been using it as well.
BeijingCbc
08-08-12, 17:42
Nicely done for your first post. You do mean&38476; &38476; , yes?
MmlouieYeah, that's the one, great app. I actually tried a few times but couldn't get the Chinese characters to come up, so I left a the link to their website as well.
Gualtier Malde
08-09-12, 07:27
I happened to walk by van palace today, and there seemed to be a functioning entrance around the corner from the construction, on a side street at the south side of the building. Jinghua Danjie or something like that? I'm pretty sure it must have access to the clubs (one club opens right next to the entrance) and spas but I didn't go inside. Are any of those clubs or spas worthwhile?I don't know about the clubs, but some of the spas are FS, and the ones that are are clean, which is a bonus. But you will pay premium western prices (at least 1000).
GM.
Fifty Shades
08-09-12, 10:56
Tried Ting Ting from Angel. Super cute. Young, be cups, great figure. Very nice BBBJ, nice attitude. No english though, so she gets right down to shower and business without chit chat. Afterwards, using Google Translate, I asked her if she knew Angel, because I have heard some people say that she wasn't a real person. She seemed truly shocked. She said she knew her and she was real. I pass that on for what it is worth. With the agencies, I always tell them if I have used them before, and I give feedback on the service. That might help with the consistency I've had. They may be middlemen but they are also brands, like GM and VW, so I assume they want to keep up their brand name.
I needed a hotel for a few hours for this afternoon adventure, so I followed the advice on some other posts and found a cheap regular hotel. Travelers Hua Qiao hotel near the NW corner of the second ring road. They asked for 550, but I negotiated at the desk down to 400 rmb for overnight (which I didn't need, but I didn't want to open that can of potential worms). It is a little cheaper online, but I wanted to check it out in person first. It is more Chinese style, on an alley through a small hutong. The driver left me off at the alley entrance and I walked the short distance to the hotel. It is only 3 stars, but the room was pretty large, big window with lots of light, and the bathroom was clean. They also spoke english at the desk. I'm not sure it even has an elevator. You walk the wide stairs to your room. But if you are looking for a relatively cheap, private, clean place for your own adventures, this one isn't bad. I couldn't get the internet to work but I didn't try hard.
Brooklyn Cyclone
08-09-12, 15:20
I qq'ed them and they replied. Looks like no FS and even BJ will cost 998. Plus they will not give address over QQ. Only asked to call when service is needed. Price alone is not worth the try so I didn't call.
Thanks for info Laobaixing.
Do they speak English?
Has anybody experience? Especially is it save?
Brooklyn Cyclone
08-09-12, 15:26
Ting Ting is the best one I have tried from Angel. As far as Angel is concerned, I have used her service few times and feels like she is a good friend already, even though we never met. Every time I call for the service same person answers the phone so unless everyone sounds exactly the same, I am pretty sure she is a real person.
Tried Ting Ting from Angel. Super cute. Young, be cups, great figure. Very nice BBBJ, nice attitude. No english though, so she gets right down to shower and business without chit chat. Afterwards, using Google Translate, I asked her if she knew Angel, because I have heard some people say that she wasn't a real person. She seemed truly shocked. She said she knew her and she was real. I pass that on for what it is worth. With the agencies, I always tell them if I have used them before, and I give feedback on the service. That might help with the consistency I've had. They may be middlemen but they are also brands, like GM and VW, so I assume they want to keep up their brand name.
I needed a hotel for a few hours for this afternoon adventure, so I followed the advice on some other posts and found a cheap regular hotel. Travelers Hua Qiao hotel near the NW corner of the second ring road. They asked for 550, but I negotiated at the desk down to 400 rmb for overnight (which I didn't need, but I didn't want to open that can of potential worms). It is a little cheaper online, but I wanted to check it out in person first. It is more Chinese style, on an alley through a small hutong. The driver left me off at the alley entrance and I walked the short distance to the hotel. It is only 3 stars, but the room was pretty large, big window with lots of light, and the bathroom was clean. They also spoke english at the desk. I'm not sure it even has an elevator. You walk the wide stairs to your room. But if you are looking for a relatively cheap, private, clean place for your own adventures, this one isn't bad. I couldn't get the internet to work but I didn't try hard.
Brooklyn Cyclone
08-09-12, 15:35
Rate is 1, 100 or 1, 200. Forgot.
Thank's a lot FwStallion, found the web-site. Do have they have only outcall? (because can't bring the girl home to appartment). Do they speak some English? What are the going rates?
Brooklyn Cyclone
08-09-12, 15:50
And before someone wisely shouts all things get more expensive and you get what you pay for. Safe your breath. I bonked girls for 200 RMB each of the last 3 nights and today had perfect GFE service by an Urumqi Sauna girl for 880 RMB. Trained far beyond any Mongolian I ever had. And these prices have been stable for 2 or 3 years, as long as I ca look back.
Just my thoughts200RMB? Was this in Beijing? How? If you have information that others don't, please share. Thanks in advance!
FernandoAlonso
08-09-12, 18:56
They may be middlemen but they are also brands, like GM and VW, so I assume they want to keep up their brand name.
I needed a hotel for a few hours for this afternoon adventure, so I followed the advice on some other posts and found a cheap regular hotel. Travelers Hua Qiao hotel near the NW corner of the second ring road. They asked for 550, but I negotiated at the desk down to 400 rmb for overnight (which I didn't need, but I didn't want to open that can of potential worms). It is a little cheaper online, but I wanted to check it out in person first. It is more Chinese style, on an alley through a small hutong. The driver left me off at the alley entrance and I walked the short distance to the hotel. It is only 3 stars, but the room was pretty large, big window with lots of light, and the bathroom was clean. They also spoke english at the desk. I'm not sure it even has an elevator. You walk the wide stairs to your room. But if you are looking for a relatively cheap, private, clean place for your own adventures, this one isn't bad. I couldn't get the internet to work but I didn't try hard.Food,
Pimps as brands, good one. Are you serious? Maybe the girls are branded too (pun intended) with little angels on the ass.
On the hotels, what can of worm? If you read minimum Chinese you will find most hotels below international standard have signs outside displaying the normally 4 hourly rate. It is around 100 RMB. That is originally not for us of course but where you think the average young and unmarried couple or not so young and not with each other married couple do it? Bring your passport, pay upfront including a deposit, no eyelashes will move. They have seen more than this. Even your beloved Angels will be able to help you out on this. And online booking also does the trick much better than any walk in rate.
There are other options, but in the current situation, search mine and others posts.
FA
FernandoAlonso
08-09-12, 19:08
200RMB? Was this in Beijing? How? If you have information that others don't, please share. Thanks in advance!This applies in Beijing as well as in Shanghai and is even lower in second and third tier cities, but needs some Chinese knowledge, some charm and some work. All reported before not only by me. In China what you pay is not always what you get but almost no foreigner realises that. And I am not Mr know it all. I frequently overpay too but I hate this Angel promotion. It is one option and as far as I can tell an expensive and very variable quality one.
Each to his own, but do not PM me for the phone numbers of my ladies, this is not how it works.
FA
There's a fairly reliable FS massage place on the south west corner of Beixingqiao. Right next to the south west subway exit is a small park. Its in the building right next to the park. The door of the massage place isn't facing the street, but is off of a driveway into an apartment block, but you can see it from the street. Its right across the street from a ginormous court building.
The service there is fairly reliable at 500 rmb FS. The girls cycle in and out, and range from overweight and unappealing to completely gorgeous with most being somewhere in the 6-7 range. Its right on the west edge of guijie, so you can expect to wait for service if you go on a Friday or Saturday night.Is it 500 including the massage fee. I'll give it a try this weekend.
Thursday night I tried a new girl from Fiona. She told me that the new girl, Cici, had just arrived in BJ and gave "really good service", although I did wonder if the girl was that new, how would Fiona know she gave good service?
The girl was not so tall and very shapely, not skinny, but not fat at all, with really nice curves and nice full breasts.
She was wearing a pretty sexy dress too, that really showed off her curves.
Better still she was very friendly with a nice hug. I love hugs that go on for a long time and where the girl presses her whole body against you.
Cici's English was not great, but plenty enough to communicate.
Started off with a really nice, long BBBJ. Really good suction and, best of all, a lot of eye contact. She even tried deepthroat, but that doesn't do much for me. It looks good, but not much feeling way down there. I don't really know what the big attraction is.
She didn't seem to be in any hurry to stop the BJ and it was so good I was happy to take my time. But I didn't want to miss the main course by overdoing the entree, so covered up and did nice missionary and doggy. She looked great and seemed to enjoy the sex.
Finished up with a nice spanish and HJ. She sure knows how to use those luscious breasts.
Didn't seem in a great rush to leave after; it's always nice to have a little "after relaxation"
A really good experience, particularly the BJ, and I was happy to give her the 1000 +taxi money
Sebastian My
08-11-12, 08:37
My local work friends told me the police closed a large club around ritan park, which catered to foreign guests. I did a quick check on the forum and did not find any posting of it. Does anyone know if its true and which club, I suspect its chocolates, but I have not been able to check myself.
On a more light hearted note, even after living and working in beijing for over 12 years I still get surprised. After my supermarket in Kerry centre closed due to renovation I have been looking for a convienient source of Vit-V, almost by accident I found a source in wangfujing in the orient plaza, hidden behind a women's undergarment section in a department stores which cater to women. Why I ask. Do they expect wives and girlfriends would be the major customers for this product? No man would ever wander around this place by accident unless accompanied by a wife / girlfriend. Everything is hidden in this place as anyone who has to shop in the supermarkets can attest. I am always finding products in strange locations. Such as throat lozengers mixed in with the chocolates. I suppose its all part of the adventure.
My local work friends told me the police closed a large club around ritan park, which catered to foreign guests. I did a quick check on the forum and did not find any posting of it. Does anyone know if its true and which club, I suspect its chocolates, but I have not been able to check myself.
On a more light hearted note, even after living and working in beijing for over 12 years I still get surprised. After my supermarket in Kerry centre closed due to renovation I have been looking for a convienient source of Vit-V, almost by accident I found a source in wangfujing in the orient plaza, hidden behind a women's undergarment section in a department stores which cater to women. Why I ask. Do they expect wives and girlfriends would be the major customers for this product? No man would ever wander around this place by accident unless accompanied by a wife / girlfriend. Everything is hidden in this place as anyone who has to shop in the supermarkets can attest. I am always finding products in strange locations. Such as throat lozengers mixed in with the chocolates. I suppose its all part of the adventure.Was open yesterday night and bustling, same with M.
BeijingCbc
08-11-12, 11:42
My local work friends told me the police closed a large club around ritan park, which catered to foreign guests. I did a quick check on the forum and did not find any posting of it. Does anyone know if its true and which club, I suspect its chocolates, but I have not been able to check myself.
On a more light hearted note, even after living and working in beijing for over 12 years I still get surprised. After my supermarket in Kerry centre closed due to renovation I have been looking for a convienient source of Vit-V, almost by accident I found a source in wangfujing in the orient plaza, hidden behind a women's undergarment section in a department stores which cater to women. Why I ask. Do they expect wives and girlfriends would be the major customers for this product? No man would ever wander around this place by accident unless accompanied by a wife / girlfriend. Everything is hidden in this place as anyone who has to shop in the supermarkets can attest. I am always finding products in strange locations. Such as throat lozengers mixed in with the chocolates. I suppose its all part of the adventure.From August 1 on China Daily.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-08/01/content_15636422.htm
Perhaps this is what your work friends were talking about?
LukeSkywalker
08-11-12, 16:34
Hi Sebastian,
Bought Viagra and Cialis at a few places in China. The stores were supposed to be pharmacies. The boxes looked authentic, but the pills were fakes.
If you want to destroy someone, give him China's pills for his misadventures. He would die of shame when he can't get a boner for his women.
Your Beijing maps were great for people who don't speak or read Chinese. When you can please post updated maps. Xie xie.
On a more light hearted note, even after living and working in beijing for over 12 years I still get surprised. After my supermarket in Kerry centre closed due to renovation I have been looking for a convienient source of Vit-V, almost by accident I found a source in wangfujing in the orient plaza, hidden behind a women's undergarment section in a department stores which cater to women. Why I ask. Do they expect wives and girlfriends would be the major customers for this product? No man would ever wander around this place by accident unless accompanied by a wife / girlfriend. Everything is hidden in this place as anyone who has to shop in the supermarkets can attest. I am always finding products in strange locations. Such as throat lozengers mixed in with the chocolates. I suppose its all part of the adventure.
Hi Sebastian,
Bought Viagra and Cialis at a few places in China. The stores were supposed to be pharmacies. The boxes looked authentic, but the pills were fakes.
If you want to destroy someone, give him China's pills for his misadventures. He would die of shame when he can't get a boner for his women.
Your Beijing maps were great for people who don't speak or read Chinese. When you can please post updated maps. Xie xie.Yes, true. I know someone who had a Japanese client die right on top of the women while fucking her after buying Viagra in China. The guy was.
Old, late 70's hitting a younger woman, but still none-the-less croaked. You absolutely can not trust meds in China.
Yes, true. I know someone who had a Japanese client die right on top of the women while fucking her after buying Viagra in China. The guy was.
Old, late 70's hitting a younger woman, but still none-the-less croaked. You absolutely can not trust meds in China.Can happen with the real thing, not just fakes. Back in Melbourne I know an owner who has someone die in her brothel, hell of a shock especially to the girl involved.
Medicines, such as Viagra, do have an effect on the heart and blood pressure and anyone with health problems must be careful when using, in some cases use is not recommended at all.
With medicines in China there are a lot of fake medicines and there are regular busts in the news of factories that are set up solely to produce and package fake medicines. Some of those factories are very sophisticated and must have has some involvement of local officials but that would not be anything new in China.
Teltel
One Eyed Man
08-12-12, 16:12
From August 1 on China Daily.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-08/01/content_15636422.htm
Perhaps this is what your work friends were talking about?
My local work friends told me the police closed a large club around ritan park, which catered to foreign guests. I did a quick check on the forum and did not find any posting of it. Does anyone know if its true and which club, I suspect its chocolates, but I have not been able to check myself.If you look on the Dongguan thread, SE Asia Joe posted the following link showing a guy and a foreign working girl getting busted in a hotel room:
http://tv.sohu.com/20120728/n349263047.shtml/index.shtml/index.shtml
It's the same Qixingdao bar mentioned in the China Daily article mentioned here.
Looking up Huasheng International Mansion on Google maps, this looks like the location of Hollywood. I was only there once, so I'm not sure.
Thursday night I tried a new girl from Fiona. She told me that the new girl, Cici, had just arrived in BJ and gave "really good service", although I did wonder if the girl was that new, how would Fiona know she gave good service?
A really good experience, particularly the BJ, and I was happy to give her the 1000 +taxi moneyWow, CNY 1000 + taxi money for ST? Double the price of Kitty and Angel which I think broadly reasonable.
In my modest opinion, I don't think it's a good deal although Cici was very good, as you said.
Sebastian My
08-13-12, 08:23
Thanks for the update, I initially though it may have been hollywood but my work mate told me it was a bar for foreigners, as we all know its a bar for locals so I discounted that. Now I have those links it make sense, as I have not been back for several months. Hollywoods was dieing anyway. The venue and business model never really worked. The old hollywood was much better, if older.
The video is painful to watch, the bar is hollywood - i can recognise it, but i do not recognise the russian girl. I do feel sorry the the girls as its not much fun being arrested by the police in beijing.
As for the article, what a lot of rubbish - there has been a dramatic reduction in foreign sex workers since 2008, there is no problem, what survives is only a shadow of the situation back in 2006. Last time i was caught in a raid in the old hollywood, they had to interview over 100 girls, i am sure all they interviewed was about a dozen this time. They really beat up this issue, I suppose the press back in the UK does the same about whatever topic catches the public imagination.
As for Vit-V, you are correct, you need to be very careful where you buy the stuff from, which is why I spend so much effort finding an authentic source. I have been caught out with fake Vit-V, which is annoying, but the real concern is what are those pills made from. Rats [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and horse cum more than likley. Always check very carefully.
One Eyed Man
08-13-12, 16:34
Working girls show up quite often on Weixin. One popped up with some risque photos, so it looked promising. We added each other, and I initially got a price of 98 RMb for a Chinese massage and something like 298 for a silk-stocking massage. I wasn't quite sure what this was, thought it was a euphemism for something else, and wanted something different last Sunday, so I got their address.
Turns out it's a massage place across the street from the Sihui metro station. And it's on the ground floor of a residential high-rise apartment building. I go in, and the manager hands me a price list: 98 for a Chinese massage, HJs start at 298, and there's the "SPA" at 598. There's no FS, though. I wasn't quite clear, I knew that topless and at least a handjob were involved. She offers me a 500 RMB 60-minute massage, and since I same all the way out there, she brings me a girl, and she's tall and pretty cute, so what the hell.
I shower, paper shorts, and lie down. She starts giving me an oil massage. I usually ask masseuses to do it hard, but she's doing it softly, which is a nice change, since I know I won't be sore the next day. It's not really a great massage, though. I'm not sure if the received any formal training. When she gets to my lower half, I hear some clothing rustling, and she's taken off her top. All the has left on were mini jeans shorts. She's an A-cup. Normally I would be disappointed, but in this case, when she rubs gher tits against me, I can feel the nipples (between a quarter and a half-dollar) against me. Then the flip, and she rubs one hand on a nipple and another against my balls to get me hard. Then a typical HJ.
At this point, a half hour has passed, and she's ready to leave. I remind her that I paid for an hour. She argues that when you pop you're done, however I convince her to stay, and after I shower to put on my clothes, I get more of a traditional massage on my arms and legs. I don't think the masseuse was into me, since she stared straight ahead when doing my HJ, but I kept talking to her, and she warmed up a bit. BTW, I think the silk stocking massage is where they put on a stocking and massage you with their foot.
I can't say it's a great value, and I probably won't go back, but it counts as "something different", and I'd recommend it to people that live in the area. PM me for details, since I brought home a business card.
Wow, CNY 1000 + taxi money for ST? Double the price of Kitty and Angel which I think broadly reasonable.
In my modest opinion, I don't think it's a good deal although Cici was very good, as you said.Well, I really doubt the pic in Fiona's is Cici as it is also on the middle of the photography page: http://www.jkforum.net/thread-2000152-1-1.html
ConquerorVal
08-14-12, 01:05
I love your attitude "one eyed man"! If you don't try you don't know what you will miss, and its better trying than living a mundane predictable life.
Good show!
BlueEyedSmile
08-14-12, 03:48
I've quite active on another forum, but this seems to be the best place for BJ and now that my job requires me to be here several times a year I look forward to contributing. Although I haven't yet been able to provide you good gentlemen with good intel on BJ, I hope someone out there could help me (board or PM) with a few basics.
I have been through the forums twice digging up bits and pieces, but with recent crackdowns I'm struggling to find actual addresses or contact numbers for active / trusted non-FS locations.
- For now, I am not interested in FS. Rather, any tips for 60-120min massage with good, slow, sensual HJ would be appreciated. Outcall preferred, but would also consider my hotel.
- Any leads on great places for the full sauna experience, including HJ, would be appreciated.
- What should I expect to pay for either of the above and will not speaking any Chinese be an issue?
If it makes a difference, I will first be staying near Wangfujing. Thanks in advance for any help and I look forward to reporting back.
IDontLikeRain
08-14-12, 19:19
Hello gentlemen.
In Beijing, hAve you some nice experience with girls who squirt (I have just seen Alee from Fiona)?
Thank you in advance.
Hello gentlemen.
In Beijing, hAve you some nice experience with girls who squirt (I have just seen Alee from Fiona)?
Thank you in advance.Hey it's my first time to Beijing, as well as my first contribution to this forum. Just had Liu Mei from Fiona"s. Having read some threads in this forum I understand that 1200 rmb for average service from kinda average looking girl for kinda half hurried 1h performance is a rip off. Though it involved hurried shower, BBBJ. 69 and cow girl all the way (no squirting though). But then again. When you've been awake for 40 hours, and had been drinking for the most of those 40 hours. I kinda got satisfied. So off to bed to get at least 3 hours of sleep before tomorrow. And happy hunting to all of ya here. Thinking of hitting Maggies tomorrow, so if any of you guys are in the mood might as well join forces in amateur mongering conquest.
DD
Working girls show up quite often on Weixin. One popped up with some risque photos, so it looked promising. We added each other, and I initially got a price of 98 RMb for a Chinese massage and something like 298 for a silk-stocking massage. I wasn't quite sure what this was, thought it was a euphemism for something else, and wanted something different last Sunday, so I got their address.
Turns out it's a massage place across the street from the Sihui metro station. And it's on the ground floor of a residential high-rise apartment building. I go in, and the manager hands me a price list: 98 for a Chinese massage, HJs start at 298, and there's the "SPA" at 598. There's no FS, though. I wasn't quite clear, I knew that topless and at least a handjob were involved. She offers me a 500 RMB 60-minute massage, and since I same all the way out there, she brings me a girl, and she's tall and pretty cute, so what the hell.
I shower, paper shorts, and lie down. She starts giving me an oil massage. I usually ask masseuses to do it hard, but she's doing it softly, which is a nice change, since I know I won't be sore the next day. It's not really a great massage, though. I'm not sure if the received any formal training. When she gets to my lower half, I hear some clothing rustling, and she's taken off her top. All the has left on were mini jeans shorts. She's an A-cup. Normally I would be disappointed, but in this case, when she rubs gher tits against me, I can feel the nipples (between a quarter and a half-dollar) against me. Then the flip, and she rubs one hand on a nipple and another against my balls to get me hard. Then a typical HJ.
At this point, a half hour has passed, and she's ready to leave. I remind her that I paid for an hour. She argues that when you pop you're done, however I convince her to stay, and after I shower to put on my clothes, I get more of a traditional massage on my arms and legs. I don't think the masseuse was into me, since she stared straight ahead when doing my HJ, but I kept talking to her, and she warmed up a bit. BTW, I think the silk stocking massage is where they put on a stocking and massage you with their foot.
I can't say it's a great value, and I probably won't go back, but it counts as "something different", and I'd recommend it to people that live in the area. PM me for details, since I brought home a business card.You just paid 500 rmb (65 euro) for HJ, LOL very expensive!
I love your attitude "one eyed man"! If you don't try you don't know what you will miss, and its better trying than living a mundane predictable life.
Good show!I love your attitude as well, Val. If you don't try you never know what you will miss!
By the way, I will contact her when I back to town.
Well, I really doubt the pic in Fiona's is Cici as it is also on the middle of the photography page:
http://www.jkforum.net/thread-2000152-1-1.htmlNever hope these pictures are genuine especially when it looks so gorgeous!
I recently stayed in the Beijing International hotel not far from Wangfujing. One block North behind the hotel there is an alley with a massage place with a big sign (in English) that you can't miss (there is a fruit store on the corner). They have an english menu though the staff that day had little spoken english. Had a good hard one hour massage including back walking from an average looking but friendly 20 something girl. HJ was volunteered without prompting for 100 RMB tip. I didn't try to negotiate lower. Not rushed and she was giggling about it rather than the usual bored stare into space. The place is easy to find and the street is well lit and busy so should be safe. Would repeat.
A few days later I stayed on Wangfujing itself. Don't know if there is a crackdown in progress but I didn't see any action of any kind day or night. My hotel spa was closed down, there were no touts or SW anywhere to be seen (I walked the full length early and late at night) Only the usual annoying girls offering to practice their english (all scams). I read on this forum that they can sometimes be talked into going to your hotel but the ones that approached me were not that attractive and were in small groups. I did not attempt to convert them. I even checked around the hutong at the north end of the street but if there were any MP there they were well hidden or closed. Other posts have suggested they are obvious so maybe they were just closed.
I typically visit only once or twice a year so I can't claim local knowledge. Outcall may be easier if your hotel is girl friendly.
Good hunting,
K
I've quite active on another forum, but this seems to be the best place for BJ and now that my job requires me to be here several times a year I look forward to contributing. Although I haven't yet been able to provide you good gentlemen with good intel on BJ, I hope someone out there could help me (board or PM) with a few basics.
I have been through the forums twice digging up bits and pieces, but with recent crackdowns I'm struggling to find actual addresses or contact numbers for active / trusted non-FS locations.
- For now, I am not interested in FS. Rather, any tips for 60-120min massage with good, slow, sensual HJ would be appreciated. Outcall preferred, but would also consider my hotel.
- Any leads on great places for the full sauna experience, including HJ, would be appreciated.
- What should I expect to pay for either of the above and will not speaking any Chinese be an issue?
If it makes a difference, I will first be staying near Wangfujing. Thanks in advance for any help and I look forward to reporting back.
I've quite active on another forum, but this seems to be the best place for BJ and now that my job requires me to be here several times a year I look forward to contributing. Although I haven't yet been able to provide you good gentlemen with good intel on BJ, I hope someone out there could help me (board or PM) with a few basics.
I have been through the forums twice digging up bits and pieces, but with recent crackdowns I'm struggling to find actual addresses or contact numbers for active / trusted non-FS locations.
- For now, I am not interested in FS. Rather, any tips for 60-120min massage with good, slow, sensual HJ would be appreciated. Outcall preferred, but would also consider my hotel.
- Any leads on great places for the full sauna experience, including HJ, would be appreciated.
- What should I expect to pay for either of the above and will not speaking any Chinese be an issue?
If it makes a difference, I will first be staying near Wangfujing. Thanks in advance for any help and I look forward to reporting back._______________________________________.
PM me, I guess I can get you my favorite place near Guomao Center.
Gregory
One Eyed Man
08-16-12, 10:43
You just paid 500 rmb (65 euro) for HJ, LOL very expensive!If you read my report, it was 500 RMB for an adventure and a topless titty massage (and a HJ.) Since all of the BBSes in my neighborhood have been closed, so I have to branch out.
If you want to save money, just stay home.
What is this euro you're talking about?
Fifty Shades
08-17-12, 05:12
there is also a debate on other forums on the crackdowns. opinions range from "this too shall pass" to "welcome to the future". i personally think that the long term trend has to do with the increasing power of women in china, who don't like the idea of their husbands getting quickies after work. the crackdown on the bbbs will certainly affect the average working guy much more than visitors, who are a tiny drop in the bucket. i don't think it is a coincidence that the recent publicity has to do with a local guy and foreign wg. plays right into the fears. in other countries, the outcome of trends like this has been to drive the game underground, based on personal contacts / sharing and the internet. like what has happened with music sharing (bit torrent, peer to peer). that is what i would bet my money on here, too. i wonder if some of the bar scene could be saved in the future by cell phone apps like wechat, with its look around feature. imho.
thanks for the update, i initially though it may have been hollywood but my work mate told me it was a bar for foreigners, as we all know its a bar for locals so i discounted that. now i have those links it make sense, as i have not been back for several months. hollywoods was dieing anyway. the venue and business model never really worked. the old hollywood was much better, if older.
the video is painful to watch, the bar is hollywood. i can recognise it, but i do not recognise the russian girl. i do feel sorry the the girls as its not much fun being arrested by the police in beijing.
as for the article, what a lot of rubbish. there has been a dramatic reduction in foreign sex workers since 2008, there is no problem, what survives is only a shadow of the situation back in 2006. last time i was caught in a raid in the old hollywood, they had to interview over 100 girls, i am sure all they interviewed was about a dozen this time. they really beat up this issue, i suppose the press back in the uk does the same about whatever topic catches the public imagination.
as for vit-v, you are correct, you need to be very careful where you buy the stuff from, which is why i spend so much effort finding an authentic source. i have been caught out with fake vit-v, which is annoying, but the real concern is what are those pills made from. rats [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and horse cum more than likley. always check very carefully.
Ragnarok42
08-18-12, 21:41
Since the crackdown seems everthing is not available I decided to give Angel a try. Called at 2. 30 in the morning after some bar hoping and was surprised when she said no problem. I was pleasantly surpised that the girl was super pretty and nicely dressed. The hotel security was either asleep or was too lazy to stop me (walking in with a girl at 3. 30 should raise some alarm bells).
Girl stripped down and actually found that she fit the desciption I provided, she ducked under the covers since it was chilly and I went in after her. She started by giving me a long BBBJ and seemed to be really enjoying it. We changed several positions and she had a long O when riding me. We finished in mish with a simultaneous O. We snuggled and kissed for a few minutes after before she showered and left. A definate repeat but now I am curious about the other girls on her blog. Only one more night in BJ for me and one. 003 condom left. Seems perfect.
As advertised. 600 RMB all inclusive, not a bad deal considering the situation in BJ. Will write another review for the girl tomorrow.
Cheers brothers.
Ragnarok42
08-19-12, 18:18
After yesterdays great experience I decided to get another girl from Angel, but decided to take a risk with a new girl and not the one I had last night. She didn't look too much like her pic since she had a really square jaw.
But all doubt ended when she seemed happy to be with me and we began having a pleasant conversation. She got really touchy feely when we showered together while she gave me a thoroughly cleaning. We began kissing and touching like a couple of horny teenagers. Total GFE with DFK, lots of positions and much screaming. Finally finished her doggy style and we spent a few minutes catching our breath. She took a quick shower and I paid her 600RMB.
Seems all the girls are nymphos who really enjoy sex so I definately had fun on this trip. With all these reports she should be paying ad fees. Have fun brothers and stay safe in "expensive as hell but no FS" Beijing.
After yesterdays great experience I decided to get another girl from Angel, but decided to take a risk with a new girl and not the one I had last night. She didn't look too much like her pic since she had a really square jaw.
But all doubt ended when she seemed happy to be with me and we began having a pleasant conversation. She got really touchy feely when we showered together while she gave me a thoroughly cleaning. We began kissing and touching like a couple of horny teenagers. Total GFE with DFK, lots of positions and much screaming. Finally finished her doggy style and we spent a few minutes catching our breath. She took a quick shower and I paid her 600RMB.
Seems all the girls are nymphos who really enjoy sex so I definately had fun on this trip. With all these reports she should be paying ad fees. Have fun brothers and stay safe in "expensive as hell but no FS" Beijing.Thanks for your great reports. I also had good luck with Angel's. What are the names of the girls that serviced you? That's quite useful info for everyone.
Thanks
Brooklyn7171
08-20-12, 16:34
Two QQ contacts. I believe they work together, so contact either one: QQ723264205, QQ168708301.
They will direct you to an apartment complex on the east side near the BaTong line.
Basically dimly lit apartment complex. Girl and a room. Quickie: 30 sec tit rub. 30 sec BJ. 5 min mish.
The pictures on the QQ are the mamasans, but not who you will actually encounter.
It's not for me, but it may suit others. 300 maos, and the girl I ran into was a 6/10.
Good luck.
I visited early Aug. Grand Dynasty KTV. I really like this place due to Madam Zheng Mei she is quite smart girl. I asked her the girl who do real GFE and she brought me this girl from Changsu (?).
Aoubt 46kg and 168cm with big smile. We drink and sing in KTV and she gave me a great GFE kissing, touching, hugging. About 1 hour and half of KTV. I decided to take her out and Madam told me it is OK to take her out.
1, 000 for Whisky, beer and fruit and room. 100 tip for waiter. 300 for the girl charge and 1, 000 to take her out for overnight. Which is really good.
We took shower with me and gave me BBBJ in shower. Kissing, Cow girl, doggy and many position. She really enjoyed it. 2 shots were good enough to me and had a sound sleep with her till morning.
Great place for KTV and long time with beautiful girl.
Ragnarok42
08-20-12, 22:58
Thanks for your great reports. I also had good luck with Angel's. What are the names of the girls that serviced you? That's quite useful info for everyone.
ThanksFirst girl is called fang fang though she is posted as Linda, she looks much better than her pic. Second girl is Jojo, she was different from her pic. Both gave GFE.
I guess I also overpaid last week. But I also enjoyed it and felt it was value for money.
Wanting a bit of relaxation I dropped into a massage place near Yonganli. There were three very cute girls downstairs and the price on the menu was 180rmb for a one hour massage and 250rmb for oil.
One interesting thing is that all the girls wear stockings, in spite of the Beijing summer heat. I guess that's to give them some protection from "wandering hands".
The massage was strong and firm and the girl young and very cute. She seemed to know what she was doing and worked pretty hard for about half an hour.
Then a lot of attention to my bum and a lot of "innocent" little brushes for the old fella, which soon brought him to attention.
Finally the turnover and the 300rmb upsell for a HJ.
The best thing about the HJ was the girl stayed very close, right in cuddling distance and, even though she kept her clothes on, a lot of touching, holding and cuddling. She seemed to get very horny and it was close to a GFE as you can with a HJ.
The total damage was 600rmb, but for an hour and a half of serious, good massage, lot of cuddle and GFE and a pretty decent HJ, I left very happy.
Happy to share its location with trusted members. I don't want the LE dropping in there for a visit.
If you read my report, it was 500 RMB for an adventure and a topless titty massage (and a HJ.) Since all of the BBSes in my neighborhood have been closed, so I have to branch out.
If you want to save money, just stay home.
What is this euro you're talking about?
Beijing Trip.
First timer Trip for me, Thank you Sammy_T, Kattar Puneri, GregoryB and OldAsiaHand for all the helps and guidance you people gave me.
I was able to have fun during the Trip.
In Short Summary Update (Struggling to find time to report in detail due to hectic work at hand).
Had 4 fun nights. 2 paid ones and 2 Non-Pro (meals / drinks on me, so really not free, costed almost same amount as paid ones.)
First on Paid one's.
Both from Angels. Its so easy and comfortable from her to order and enjoy the girl at my room. I just Sms'ed her 1 hour before and girl was bang on time, actually one time ahead of schedule by 20mins or so. I met Tin-Tin and one more girl. One spoke broken English and other one, could not manager. Both were great in service and I really had great 1 hour service. Everything on menu apart from Anal which anyway I avoid. Paid 600 each time. Seeing the convenience and comfort of own hotel room, for business travelers, I would recommend her if one does not have time to invest on free-lancers and have limitations of chasing around due to colleagues or time limitations. Do not PM me for Angels contact, its there in the Classified, please do some work with browsing the forum.
On So called free ones, One hooked from Tagged (Tall and blond Mongolian, good GFE, Costed me Coffee and one dress for 800 RMB for one shot) and one from We-chat spend whole day / night at my room (dinner and clubbing, costs- 1000 RMB for 2 shots).
If you stay in CBD, One has lots of options to go around the bars / restaurants / coffee shoppes. Just smiles a lot and hook in conversations etc. Starbucks caffee near China world Hotel has lot of Free-lancers pros, Just go around couple of times, they approach you, but bit of old-aged. I did not liked anyone there.
I went to famous Maggie club near Forbidden city on one night. I just stayed 1 hours and one drink. Very few females and very old ones, did not even asked them going rate. Seems to me that this place is out-dated now and not worth of the hype what it has been reported on the forum. May be I am missing something. 1 night be very short observation night (but normally Friday nights are best scoring nights in other cities of the world.) , Local Seniors can put better picture on latest update on this place.
The best bar / pub / Nightclubs area seems to be Sanlitun area where there Is possibility of even hooking with expats women, I went there for 2 nights (Fri and Sat) and lot of people dancing on floors, local and expats as well. I was surprised that even Black Africans were able to put some nice expats women for night. So try if you have time and energy and may be age / looks favoring you, you may get lucky.
In the End, I was pleasantly surprised by my first China visit, Chinese females have very good skin, fair and quite feminine in body structure, soft and tender and I like the women to be like that way. I will come back, I love China women now.
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Now we're here in BJ, yesterday in Sanlitun village area and bars looked empty, same in Hard Rock but nice music. Foreigners, where are you? . Thank you for ISG member who resolved my sex problem for that night. Yup!
Now we're here in BJ, yesterday in Sanlitun village area and bars looked empty, same in Hard Rock but nice music. Foreigners, where are you? . Thank you for ISG member who resolved my sex problem for that night. Yup!What nationality are you? In BJ now and may want to meet up.
What nationality are you? In BJ now and may want to meet up.I'm PM you.
What nationality are you? In BJ now and may want to meet up.Sorry I cannt send you PM. It looks like in profile U-turned off this option so you need to make it by yourself.
Edroman6969
08-23-12, 16:22
Hi,
I just arrived beijing and will be here till next Wednesday, could anyone recommend a reliable outcall service?
Thanks!
Yo dude. Read between the notices here. Do a little leg work before you ask a bs question.
Hi,
I just arrived beijing and will be here till next Wednesday, could anyone recommend a reliable outcall service?
Thanks!
Gupin 2008
08-24-12, 02:47
Hi,
I just arrived beijing and will be here till next Wednesday, could anyone recommend a reliable outcall service?
Thanks!Angel is a good agency and provide a excellent service according to past reports.
Now we're here in BJ, yesterday in Sanlitun village area and bars looked empty, same in Hard Rock but nice music. Foreigners, where are you? . Thank you for ISG member who resolved my sex problem for that night. Yup!Guess the girls are only looking for white meat in BJ? Haha. A little amusing to think about.
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