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NatSetGol
08-24-12, 04:09
Guess the girls are only looking for white meat in BJ? Haha. A little amusing to think about.Why not? Sometimes (but usual often) girls need to be satisfied and satisfy someone. What do you have against this idea? . We're good looking girls responsible to pay by ourselves but its looks like foreigners a little bit afraid scam&hookers, yesterday we saw a lot of really nice girls in Sanlitun walking alone and they look like tourists too. So the problem is not just only individual our case.

ChinBro
08-24-12, 04:31
Hi,

I just arrived beijing and will be here till next Wednesday, could anyone recommend a reliable outcall service?

Thanks!Three outcall service providers here: Kitty, Angels and Fiona.

Any of them is honest and hard-working.

Kitty and Angels charge CNY 500+100cab for one hour, Fiona charges CNY 1000+100cab for one hour.

As for their contacts, you can easily find in 'Classified Ads' section.

By the way, other than outcall service, there are some more interesting mongering places such as Sanlitun, Workers' stadium area, if you have enough time to hang out there.

For more information, just read back a few pages, or read postings contributed by some Beijing experts such as Sammy_T, FernandoAlonso, Bad Boy Billy, etc.

Edroman6969
08-24-12, 17:23
Thanks ChinBro,

Will contact one of the three, thanks very much!

Edroman6969
08-24-12, 17:24
Angel is a good agency and provide a excellent service according to past reports.Thanks Gupin! Good to see fellow brothers helping out.

Nameci
08-25-12, 05:43
Why not? Sometimes (but usual often) girls need to be satisfied and satisfy someone. What do you have against this idea? . We're good looking girls responsible to pay by ourselves but its looks like foreigners a little bit afraid scam&hookers, yesterday we saw a lot of really nice girls in Sanlitun walking alone and they look like tourists too. So the problem is not just only individual our case.That wasn't my point, haha. But anyway hope you're finding what you're looking for in Beijing.

Chris42
08-25-12, 10:05
I recently decided to check out Wangjing. Previous posts by Mojo888 provide excellent directions and a guide to various places in Wangjing.

Wangjing Si Qu (400) and San Qu (300) are huge complexes and the numbering of buildings seem to follow no order. And almost all signs are in Korean and Chinese, so without proper directions, you'll indeed have a hard time.

As you walk straight into the complex from exit C, the first building on your right is 419. Yes, it does have a basement shop that did not look too clean and the one over the coffee shop that seems well kept.

Based on Mojo888's suggestion I decided to go to 405. Right in front of 419, if U-turn left, it's the second building on your left. The MP has its door facing the road, but I did not realize that it was the MP because they had clothes drying right in front of the sign, so I could not see any MP sign! But decided to walk in and see.

I took a 1 hour oil massage for 168. Do not expect luxury. There are 6 or 8 cramped rooms, no shower. My masseuse was 24, from Sichuan, pleasant, not pretty, but pleasant enough. After about 5 minutes into the massage, I asked if they had special services, which she did not understand, so I straight away asked "Ai zuo keyi ma?" (literally is it possible to make love? She smiled and said yes. She asked for 600 and I offered 400 and she agreed.

She whipped out a condom from inside her pant pockets. So FS is probably routine in this place, started with CBJ and cowgirl and then I finished in missionary. After cleaning up, she cuddled a little bit (no kissing) and offered to continue the massage until the hour was up.

Then there was the pleasant surprise. I had assumed that the 400 was for the FS and I still had to pay 168 at the counter. I paid her 400 in the room and when we walked to the counter, she and the girl at the counter said "xie xie", no more payment was asked for.

400 for FS including massage was not bad. This just one notch above a BBS, with dingy rooms and not particularly attractive girls.

There is a big "sauna" in the San quan (300s) complex. Anybody been there? Any action?

GregoryB
08-25-12, 10:39
Hi Funman 13 see above! Can't get through with my PM.

Gregory

Chris42
08-25-12, 11:01
Hi. I located the street [get off at Tiantongyaun South, walk north about 100 meters to Taipinzhuang middles street and make a left at the arch with 4 big Chinese characters]. And, as you said, there are about 5 or 6 places claiming to be SPA on the left side within the 200-300 meters. However, they did not seem like MPs. The first one looked almost like a high end sauna. And definitely not "you can see before you choose" type of places. True, I did not go in, but are the SPAs the ones you are referring to? Do they have a line up once you go in? Do you choose an oil massage first to be taken in to a room? Can you please explain?

Thanks.


Check out where Taipingzhuang middle street is. If you go along there until you are facing a big, wide arch with 4 big red Chinese characters on top, you are at the entrance. I was there tonite. To be honest, its alot better than Huoying, quality wise. There's about 15-20 Mp's in the area but about 10 within the first 100 yards on left after you go through the arch.

I tried out 2 tonite. ALOT of good looking dolls in my opinion. In the first place I went to, I chose a girl maybe 21-22, slim but not too slim, I had a horn just lookin at her in that dress. The conversation went something like this,"How much for a massage?","500yuan"."How much for massage and a wank?","500 yuan plus 100yuan for the wank"."Just a wank?","100yuan.". So I went for the wank, her completely naked and a load on the chest finish,"250yuan". Very friendly atmoshpere. She was surprisingly gorgeous, in my humble opinion. Her friend (stunner) decided to pop in for a look (a laugh) , she was welcomed but as I realised the price would be doubled, she was sent packing. In fairness, the first thing I thought of when I left was I could have had her and her friend at the same time for 200yuan. A bargain, if you ask me!

Very friendly, very enthusiastic, very happy.

Hope this helps. If anyone knows of areas like this (my fav) please post. Enjoy!

Split
08-25-12, 21:42
400 for FS including massage was not bad. This just one notch above a BBS, with dingy rooms and not particularly attractive girls.Similar price to a rinky dink place I know in dalian (228 for FS without massage).

Easily Pleased
08-26-12, 08:14
Hi. I located the street [get off at Tiantongyaun South, walk north about 100 meters to Taipinzhuang middles street and make a left at the arch with 4 big Chinese characters]. And, as you said, there are about 5 or 6 places claiming to be SPA on the left side within the 200-300 meters. However, they did not seem like MPs. The first one looked almost like a high end sauna. And definitely not "you can see before you choose" type of places. True, I did not go in, but are the SPAs the ones you are referring to? Do they have a line up once you go in? Do you choose an oil massage first to be taken in to a room? Can you please explain?

Thanks.Let me get this straight, you travelled all the way following my directions but you did not go in because they did not 'seem' like MPs? WTF?

First of all, surely all of your questions (but are the SPAs the ones you are referring to? Do they have a line up once you go in? Do you choose an oil massage first to be taken in to a room? Can you please explain?) , would have been answered if you went in, no? Jesus.

Secondly, why did you say in your PM that you DID go into the first one but here you said that you didn't? I seriously doubt that you went in anyway. If you did, you would easily realise what the score was inside. Girls sitting around and they ask you what you want as soon as you walk in the door. You choose a girl and out the back you go with her.

Thirdly, you said-{And definitely not "you can see before you choose" type of places. }? They definitely ARE. Especially at night. You walk up to or close to the door and you can clearly see the girls before you go in. I mentioned in a previous post-"Even better (IMO) is when the girls can be viewed before you enter the premises". In your PM, you said,"I did not see anyone sitting outside or anything". You honestly expected to see a line up of girls sitting outside? OMG.

Finally, in the immortal words of Bricktop,"If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not", ESPECIALLY if the dog makes NO EFFORT to taste it.

Don't PM me again.

Gualtier Malde
08-26-12, 08:22
I recently decided to check out Wangjing.

(removed report for brevity)

Then there was the pleasant surprise. I had assumed that the 400 was for the FS and I still had to pay 168 at the counter. I paid her 400 in the room and when we walked to the counter, she and the girl at the counter said "xie xie", no more payment was asked for.

400 for FS including massage was not bad. This just one notch above a BBS, with dingy rooms and not particularly attractive girls.

There is a big "sauna" in the San quan (300s) complex. Anybody been there? Any action?The price you paid is good for the area. I get about that in local village MPs, with the same sort of service. Though I hear the prices are going up, at least for foreigners. My regulars charge the old fee, but they are now charging new foreigners double the rate I pay.

Don't know about the big sauna, if I get a chance to check it out I will and let you know.

GM.

Chris42
08-26-12, 11:30
Dear Easily Pleased:

I asked a simple question, and if you do not want to answer, that's OK, but there is no reason for this vitriolic comments. Your past posts have been very informative and I appreciate that.

You say "you traveled all the way". It may be far from where you live, but for me all the way turns out to be just one subway stop.

Your post sounded like a "kid in a candy store" and painted an almost Amsterdamish like picture [and I have seen such in Beijing right on Dongdaqiao in the past that made no pretense of massage or SPA]. What I saw in this place was much more sedate than the enthusiastic picture you presented, so I was asking a simple question: was I even in the right place and are these "sauna" like places where you go in for a sauna and taken to a second floor or something. Yes, I did enter the first SPA in that street that had uniformed attendants who showed me a menu of massages and spa treatments, but I did not go further back in to check it out.

There were other reasons I did not go in. I was more on a scouting trip. And already spent for the day.

You said: "If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not". Nice metaphor, but may be next time you could throw me a boner?

Please don't misunderstand. I am in no way casting doubt on your reports, all I was asking was a simple question. And, if you like, you can PM me any time.


Let me get this straight, you travelled all the way following my directions but you did not go in because they did not 'seem' like MPs? WTF?

First of all, surely all of your questions (but are the SPAs the ones you are referring to? Do they have a line up once you go in? Do you choose an oil massage first to be taken in to a room? Can you please explain?) , would have been answered if you went in, no? Jesus.

Secondly, why did you say in your PM that you DID go into the first one but here you said that you didn't? I seriously doubt that you went in anyway. If you did, you would easily realise what the score was inside. Girls sitting around and they ask you what you want as soon as you walk in the door. You choose a girl and out the back you go with her.

Thirdly, you said-{And definitely not "you can see before you choose" type of places. }? They definitely ARE. Especially at night. You walk up to or close to the door and you can clearly see the girls before you go in. I mentioned in a previous post-"Even better (IMO) is when the girls can be viewed before you enter the premises". In your PM, you said,"I did not see anyone sitting outside or anything". You honestly expected to see a line up of girls sitting outside? OMG.

Finally, in the immortal words of Bricktop,"If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not", ESPECIALLY if the dog makes NO EFFORT to taste it.

Don't PM me again.

DragonButt
08-26-12, 20:34
Three outcall service providers here: Kitty, Angels and Fiona.

Any of them is honest and hard-working.

Kitty and Angels charge CNY 500+100cab for one hour, Fiona charges CNY 1000+100cab for one hour.

As for their contacts, you can easily find in 'Classified Ads' section.

By the way, other than outcall service, there are some more interesting mongering places such as Sanlitun, Workers' stadium area, if you have enough time to hang out there.

For more information, just read back a few pages, or read postings contributed by some Beijing experts such as Sammy_T, FernandoAlonso, Bad Boy Billy, etc.Man what the hell was that? Kitty's was not that great. I still haven't tried Angel but my girl from Kitty had a bad attitude the whole time. Granted it started to monsoon after I made the call. But if that girl who was a 7-8 at best is what Kitty has to offer, I will not be using her again. Maybe I should've tried one of the "model" types?

ChinBro
08-27-12, 18:22
Man what the hell was that? Kitty's was not that great. I still haven't tried Angel but my girl from Kitty had a bad attitude the whole time. Granted it started to monsoon after I made the call. But if that girl who was a 7-8 at best is what Kitty has to offer, I will not be using her again. Maybe I should've tried one of the "model" types?If you are looking for outcall services, Kitty is surely a reliable even the best provider, IMHO.

So please let her know your requirements first, then a right girl will come to you!

Here's a posting about Kitty and one of her girls contributed by a senior SteeBaton.


Shortly after my arrival in BJ for this 4 day visit I got it in my head that I really, really needed to have a Mongolian girl. I had met a few in the Pig and other bars but all were a bit too old for my taste. I sms'ed each of the four outcall providers whose numbers I found on the forum or had used before. No one had any Mongolians in their stable except Kitty at China Escort. We spent the better part of the morning, whilst I was in a conference, texting about options. Initially her only option was a mid-late 20's Mongolian / Sichuan girl who ultimately did meet my desires for a young, tight, body. (I finally decided to have the girl come to the hotel, between my meetings, and then paid her a few hundred to strip and so I could fondle her a bit and see what her body really was like – definitely too old and flabby for me). I must say that I give Kitty kudos for her patience and diligence in trying to find a solution. I counted 42 sms's between us on this topic over a period of 3 hours. She speaks / texts very fluent English – other than telling me such and such a girl has 'big bombs' LOL.

In the end she mentioned Sally who she said was "22, 44 kgs, Mongolian, and great service", but alas not working because of her aunt Rose was in town (period). I finally said that it looked like she had no one for that me day and found another girl via Lily – see prior post on her (that turned out rather well). I asked if Sally might be available the next day and Kitty said she would check and get back to me before 10 pm. Over the course of several hours she checked and said that yes, she thought she might be available but would have to let me know in the morning. Which was a little frustrating, but I guess Sally wanted to be sure her period was finished before she committed.

Ultimately, Sally was available and she arrived in the early afternoon at my hotel door, right on time. Wow, she is a great looking package. About 5` 3' in a form fitting pink knit dress that highlighted her tiny waist and reasonable-sized tits. Nice white silk blouse. She was dressed very nice, sexy but classy. Kitty had said 44 kgs and she sure looked that tight. She said she was born in 1990 which checked with her promoted age of 21/22. Beautiful Mongolian face with high cheek bones, nice white teeth, and a nice smile. Pale skin. Of the three outcalls I'the received this 4 day trip she was definitely the best looking overall.

Invited her in, took her coat, treated her like a lady and offered her some food and something to drink. All without pawing her (like I am prone to do with a hot girl!). We chatted, as much as one can considering she spoke no English and me no Chinese, let alone Mongolian. Some gentle kissing and then suggested she shower.

I couldn't wait to see what was underneath that pink dress. Long story made a little shorter: she has a super-tight young body that you could bounce a coin off of. For fun (my new twist) I put her on the bathroom scale and she came in at 44. 1 kgs (about 97 lbs.). Very petite. She has a nice little set of tits with really long, almost droopy pinkish nipples. Pale skin. Her pussy was especially exciting to me as it is lightly furred (by current China standards) but all the hair is above her pubis bone and her lips are clean and beautiful.

She showered and came out to give me a sweet cuddle and hug as we settled into the bed. Great BBBJ. Super tight pussy. Lots of good chemistry with her as I took it easy. Sucked me for 10 minutes and I would say perhaps the best under 25's BJ I've had in China in the past few years – nowhere near as good as New Zealand or Australia, but pretty damn good for a Chinese 21 yr old. Nice DATY on a fresh young pussy. Good sex in the usual positions, great ass that bears doggy to appreciate. While one-finger tight, she can handle a western dick if you take it slowly.

Summary:

Face: 8/10, long red / black hair as the fashion seems to be now.

Body: 9/10, great ass for an Asian, totally tight zero fat body, light skin.

Tits: B, firm, some possibility of small implants no idea why, but felt a little too firm (?) Great nipples, a nice little handful

BBBJ skills: solid 9/10 on the under 25 China scale, no DT but good interest and plenty of time.

FS: 9/10 tight cu*nt, willing in lots of positions.

GFE: 8/10 considering her young age.

Service: 9/10.

WIR: every day of the week!

Damage: 600 + 200 tip (again excess perhaps, but she was great!)

Conclusion: Sally is a truly pretty young girl with a hot body, nice personality, and outstanding BBBJ skills. One of the best that I have found in China. Treat her nice, please, she'the be my great regular GF. Great hardworking service by Kitty.

PS. I know someone will think this report is too positive and that I am working for Kitty or something. That's cool please don't use the outcall services – more for the rest of us. But, if you read my reports you will see that they are thorough and both positive and negative points and I use multiple outcall providers, so I am not shilling for one. But, if you like them a bit older, well-trained, lots more GFE and like a chance to get to know their personalities then Maggies or one of the bars is probably a better choice.

DragonButt
08-28-12, 10:52
If you are looking for outcall services, Kitty is surely a reliable even the best provider, IMHO.

So please let her know your requirements first, then a right girl will come to you!

Here's a posting about Kitty and one of her girls contributed by a senior SteeBaton.Working with Kitty or whoever it was on the phone was a pleasant experience. Maybe I just got a bad egg, cause the girl herself was not enjoyable. I contacted Kitty based off the classifieds here. Any chance I called an impostor?

Huangdipingxian
08-29-12, 00:43
Hi fellows, I come back to China after one year. I had good experience in Maggie. Is still open? Please write if there is some action there.

FunMan13
08-29-12, 05:27
SmithyChen, if you are still reading the Beijing posts, please contact me. I lost your email and you don't have PM. Thanks.

Wrc88
08-30-12, 04:53
If you read my report, it was 500 RMB for an adventure and a topless titty massage (and a HJ.) Since all of the BBSes in my neighborhood have been closed, so I have to branch out.

If you want to save money, just stay home.

What is this euro you're talking about?I'm from Europe and euro had big devaluation with rmb, so sex price up plus devaluation and not too good quality girl = expensive sex.

Edroman6969
08-31-12, 16:33
I'm pretty much a rookie in Beijing and needed something reliable and safe, I was little worried with all the raids and clamping down. With the help from some of the brothers here and based on number of some of reviews I decided to call Fiona and managed to try two of her girls over the past week.

The first time I asked Fiona to send for someone who can give good girlfriend feel and she recommended Bess. Turned out to be really fun, with lots of cuddling, and we made love like some long lost lovers. I literally fell in love with Bess and decided to extend the one hour to an overnight stay. Bess a cute sensuous girl with really great feel and touch.

Two nights later I asked for Bess again, but she had another appointment. I was a little disappointed to be honest. Fiona recommended me Lulu. After booking Lulu and while waiting for her to arrive I was still thinking of Bess. : (

When Lulu arrived I was quite happy with her looks and body (great if you are a boobs lover). Lulu was quite wild and the action started the moment we got into the shower, with lots of fondling and hugging. Lulu was pretty chatty and playful, after getting familiar with her a little more and I decided to take up her offer for an overnight stay, and had another round in the morning before she left.

Overall a great experience, and what's nice is that Fiona speaks English (and so does Bess and Lulu) and my mandarin being pretty limited was able to make all the arrangements without any fuss. Also I find that Fiona doesn't push or oversell her girls which is nice.

I'll hope to try Bess again, and possibly another one or two of the others on her site which looks really tempting.

http://************.blog.com/

+86 13581916890

One Eyed Man
08-31-12, 21:09
I'm from Europe and euro had big devaluation with rmb, so sex price up plus devaluation and not too good quality girl = expensive sex.I get paid in dollars, which have only moved downward against the RMB, but you never hear me whining about it.

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To offset this waste of bandwidth, I'll try add a modicum of information.

The BBSes on Guanghua road across from Hanwei Plaza and one the other size of the CCTV tower have been closed.

Maggie's tonight was lightly attended, probably due to North American and European vacations. Some of the regulars were back, and there was some new girls. There was a really, really tall Mongolian with short hair whose stature would be a challenge for confident guys.

I'm going to check out this girl from the Northeast that contacted me on Weixin. Near Changchun street on line 2 of the subway. Supposedly 300 for a "set." I'll write a report after.

Venne73
09-03-12, 16:01
I get paid in dollars, which have only moved downward against the RMB, but you never hear me whining about it.USD has drop less than 10, but EURO about 35%. Would you whine, if everything suddenly become 35% more expensive?

One Eyed Man
09-03-12, 16:51
Would you whine, if everything suddenly become 35% more expensive?No, I wouldn't.

Stegram
09-04-12, 18:36
No, I wouldn't.Especially not to people who can't' do anything about it.

You're still getting a great price compared to home so while it's not the bargain it used to be, it's still about half what you would pay in Europe.

Huangdipingxian
09-05-12, 03:33
Saturday in Maggie's many Mongolian. Some of them really nice (7-8). I pick up one for 1.000 rmb. Really friendly!

Will come back!

Split
09-05-12, 04:10
What is the average cost for OverNt In Beijing. How many hours should I get? Is requesting after 12:30pm arrival a problem? How many days in advance should I reserve?

ConquerorVal
09-06-12, 04:42
Unfortunately, I was unable to visit this place of worship. Hopefully next time.

Dynamic
09-06-12, 15:04
Where the hell do you find the classifieds here?

ConquerorVal
09-06-12, 17:18
This temple of worship I did visit. Uploaded the wrong photo. Sorry!

Rafale
09-06-12, 17:25
Where the hell do you find the classifieds here?Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads

A little browsing should get you there.

Trawlerman
09-07-12, 17:52
Tried all three now, Angel twice, and was very satisfied each time. I just gave a vague description of the kind of girl I wanted (in not very fluent Chinese) and relied on their selection. None of the girls had "model" looks but they were all young and definitely hot enough for me, and had a pretty good attitude. Most recently, my girl from Kitty was 19, with tight fresh skin and pussy, nice firm round tits, and a pleasure to fuck. She had a tentative lick-o-centric BJ style that was not exactly the best-of-my-life-orgasm-inducing-suck-job, but so deliciously cute that made the subsequent penetration immensely rewarding. None of the girls spoke any English and I go the impression that speaking Chinese with the providers gave me access to a wider range of girls.

Dynamic
09-08-12, 04:07
Lately, I have had this feeling that there are more than one provider being operated by the same mama.

Anyone else coming to this conclusion?

Easy to have multiple contact numbers and names May be a way to give options and shift popularity?

I remember a post some time ago suggesting that the same girls were attached to different stables.

Could be that they are the same stable?

"These are my principles, and if you don't like them. Well, I have others":

El Frances
09-08-12, 15:11
Lately, I have had this feeling that there are more than one provider being operated by the same mama.

Anyone else coming to this conclusion?

Easy to have multiple contact numbers and names May be a way to give options and shift popularity?

I remember a post some time ago suggesting that the same girls were attached to different stables.

Could be that they are the same stable?

"These are my principles, and if you don't like them. Well, I have others":I came to the same conclusion:

- It is sure that you can get the same girl from different providers. Last time, I got a girl from one provider, and I read posts on this girl being provided by another provider, and finally when I asked the girl who her boss was, it was a third provider! My guess is that each has a stable, but when they cannot meet demand, they ask another provider to lend a girl (and probably share the commission).

- it may be possible that some providers operate under different names (I know one operating under at least 2 names).

El Frances
09-08-12, 15:47
Another question: there are now plenty of Chinese Android tablets at incredible price (OK, some good, some not). Several websites sell these tablets with English language and Google play. Do you know any reliable shop in Beijing selling Chinese tabs, but targetting international customers (English version, and access to Google play, not a Chinese pre-programmed website)

Dynamic
09-08-12, 16:57
I came to the same conclusion:

- It is sure that you can get the same girl from different providers. Last time, I got a girl from one provider, and I read posts on this girl being provided by another provider, and finally when I asked the girl who her boss was, it was a third provider! My guess is that each has a stable, but when they cannot meet demand, they ask another provider to lend a girl (and probably share the commission).

- it may be possible that some providers operate under different names (I know one operating under at least 2 names).If you think about it, it's more likely one provider. Two names, or more. I doubt if they would share girls.

Maybe when one name gets a bit of bad publicity, the other benefits, so things role on as normal.

Deceitful, but it is the nature of the business I suppose.

El Frances
09-09-12, 18:10
If you think about it, it's more likely one provider. Two names, or more. I doubt if they would share girls.

Maybe when one name gets a bit of bad publicity, the other benefits, so things role on as normal.

Deceitful, but it is the nature of the business I suppose.I know for sure they share girls, from several experiences, and also that they may have some kind of sub-contractors.

Dynamic
09-10-12, 04:20
I know for sure they share girls, from several experiences, and also that they may have some kind of sub-contractors.That's my point EF, but I don't think it is different providers same girls. Same girls same provider, just different name and number.

Maybe sub contractors are part of it, means different voice accent etc.

Either way, I think we agree, something fishy going on.

But I guess if the service is good, does it really matter?

Stegram
09-10-12, 18:45
That's my point EF, but I don't think it is different providers same girls. Same girls same provider, just different name and number.

Maybe sub contractors are part of it, means different voice accent etc.

Either way, I think we agree, something fishy going on.

But I guess if the service is good, does it really matter?I think these girls are like strippers here in the USA. They float from club to club, are sometimes loosely affiliated, or sometimes loyal to one. One or two are dating the owner. Some move city to city depending on where they have friends they can stay with and really none of us on the outside are ever going to understand the true workings of how it all comes together even when someone "in the know" tells us.

Calico
09-11-12, 08:35
Saturday in Maggie's many Mongolian. Some of them really nice (7-8). I pick up one for 1. 000 rmb. Really friendly!

Will come back!Kindly inform me what time you made the visit?

Some reports were saying to avoid Manggie's.

I will be in Beijing soon and wish to visit this place.

Thanks

BeijingCbc
09-11-12, 19:27
Kindly inform me what time you made the visit?

Some reports were saying to avoid Manggie's.

I will be in Beijing soon and wish to visit this place.

ThanksAnyone have an update on Maggies? I would like to check it out as well. I've only been there twice and didn't take anyone home either time. I know its mostly about the money and it shouldn't matter but is it harder for Chinese to pick up there? I'm Canadian born Chinese and I've never had any girls approach me there even if dressed nicely and just hanging out by the bar. Definitely made eye contact with a few but its still always me doing the approaching and then they never seem to be that interested. Maybe I just need to seal the deal a bit quicker before a more "foreign looking" foreigner catches their interest? Still would love to give it another shot. I know some of the more senior members would like to tell me that I'm definitely missing out. Strangely enough, I did pick up a freebie a few months back at 1st Floor who claimed she was Mongolian. But from reading the forums, her performance was definitely not up to the standards of her compatriots. But at least it was free, so can't complain.

In the meantime, sent Angel a text tonight asking for a girl into DFK, she recommended JoJo who has recently been reviewed on here. She arrived 45 mins later and I suggested we share a quick shower. Lots of foreplay in the shower, teasing my nipples with her tongue while the other hand firmly on junior. Led to some DFK and started with a pretty decent BBBJ. My shower isn't the most comfortable place so asked her to move into the bedroom. She quickly gave herself a scrub down and we proceeded to the bed after drying off. I laid down while she continued the BBBJ. Lots of tongue flicking to the head which I'm a big fan of. She didn't seem to like any digits so I moved her into a 69 which she did enjoy. After a while of that, on comes the cover for some cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. Flipped her around for some mish and then around again to finish in doggy. I pulled out and blew on her back so she quickly ran to take another shower. I joined her after catching my breath and we had some more DFK while cleaning up. Paid her 600 and a quick kiss and she was out the door. All in all, service was standard but good, and definitely a GFE. I've used Angel off and on since coming to Beijing and its always been very reliable in my opinion so I was not surprised at having a good time.

Going back a few days to Saturday afternoon, I was doing a little work at a cafe across the street from the south side of Pingod in Shuangjing and decided to play around a bit on WeChat and Momo. One girl I found on WeChat was pretty obvious she worked at a massage place so I asked her for prices. She quoted me for regular massages so I quickly asked her if there were any "special" services. She said we could discuss that in person and they were just located inside the Pingod community. She offered to meet me at the south gate since I'm not a resident there and don't have a card to get into community so I decided what the hell, might as well check it out. Met the girl at the gate and she led me to a massage place on the ground floor of one of the buildings (I think it was Building 11). Anyways, she looked quite young, not the best looking girl but very enthusiastic to meet me. We negotiated 400 for a 60 min full body oil massage with a happy ending. There were some lounge chairs in the place that I assume are for foot massages and a few other girls but older looking. I didn't ask if I could switch girls but I'm sure I could have. Was led to dimly lit private room with a massage table. I disrobed and got a fairly decent massage for about 20 mins before she started teasing me with a reach around. Turned over and on to the happy ending. At first she was hesitant to allow any touching but she took off her bra from under her shirt and allowed me to fondle her a bit. Wasn't long before I finished and she gave me some wet-naps and a towel to clean up. I didn't see any showers and didn't bother asking so I was still kinda oily when putting my clothes back on. In the end, was probably there for 40 mins in total. Not really worth it in my opinion.

I'm not sure how many members here use Momo, since its exclusively in Chinese but I've had a few interesting conversations on there lately. Haven't tried any of these options but if other members want to take one for the team, please feel free and report back! I live near Sihui and since Momo uses location services, all these options are around this area. Was chatting with a girl (Momo#13649668) , pictures look genuine and extremely hot, especially the one where you can see her tattoo on her lower abdomen just above her crotch. She originally quoted me 3000 for a night, but after a while she was willing to lower it to 2000. Still a bit expensive for me so didn't go for it. Another girl (Momo#4660361) works at a KTV near Sihui. Her profile says she's 19 and the pics are quite cute. She said the room fee is 800 and I assume take out would be extra on top of that. I tried to convince her to meet up without going through the KTV but she said it wasn't possible when she's working. She told me to message her in the afternoons or if I catch her on a day off, then we could work out a private arrangement. Haven't done so as of yet.

Anyone have any luck on WeChat or Momo lately?

BeijingCbc
09-11-12, 19:53
Another question: there are now plenty of Chinese Android tablets at incredible price (OK, some good, some not). Several websites sell these tablets with English language and Google play. Do you know any reliable shop in Beijing selling Chinese tabs, but targetting international customers (English version, and access to Google play, not a Chinese pre-programmed website)Do you have links to those websites?

I'm not sure if there are any shops that would mainly target international customers. I think it would be too costly to run a physical store targeted for a demographic that represents such a small percentage in the city's population. I think those websites would be your best bet or you can post on thebeijinger. Com and see if anyone in the expat community there has one to sell or knows any reliable shops. I've actually found that the electronics markets here are quite reliable long as you bring a Chinese friend who is reliable as well. Not sure what your Chinese level is but mine is pretty decent and I look Chinese, but even I always try to find a native speaker to come with me. I've haven't had any problems with anything I've bought this way. I'm positive that they can flash one with the newest English version Android and make sure you have access to Google Play.

Other than that, if you wish to go through more official channels, then maybe you can contact the manufacturers (I think Ainol and Onda tablets are quite popular) and see if they have a store or English online shop you can buy through. It will most likely be in Chinese so again, a Chinese friend would be needed if your Chinese is sub-par, and I'm not sure if they would be able to get you an English version either.

J Fox
09-11-12, 20:10
I will be in Beijing soon and want to try out Angel / Fiona / Maggies. The company is putting me up in either the marriott or hilton.

How easy is it to bring a woman back? I saw a post that said hotels do not allow visitors after 11pm. Another post said the hilton denied him bringing in a woman.

How do the rates work? 1 hour for 1 pop and she leaves or as many pops as you want.

Split
09-12-12, 04:05
About to have my first time experience in BJ in 2 days from now. I am undecided between Fiona, Angels and a few other agencies and independent wg's I have some phone numbers for.

Not sure what to expect but I hope it's worth the time and cost. I hope I don't just get some 5/10 on looks. That would be a complete waste of time / cost for me.

Gemini901
09-12-12, 05:28
Long time monger here (SE Asia, DR, Eastern Europe, etc.)

Anyways, now married to hot, younger (than me) Russian. We now like to cpls swap, not shy.

Any action like this to be found? 3somes with escorts or cpls with expats or

Mongers with dates. Any combination (s). Hope this isn't too of the wall but hey this IS.

A sex guide forum. Thanks for any info.

J

Halloerstmal
09-12-12, 10:01
Long time monger here (SE Asia, DR, Eastern Europe, etc.)

Anyways, now married to hot, younger (than me) Russian. We now like to cpls swap, not shy.

Any action like this to be found? 3somes with escorts or cpls with expats or

Mongers with dates. Any combination (s). Hope this isn't too of the wall but hey this IS.

A sex guide forum. Thanks for any info.

JI have a girl in BJ who might be interested in MMFF. PM me (you need to subscribe to the forum first)

BillingFord
09-12-12, 14:10
The company is putting me up in either the marriott or hilton. How easy is it to bring a woman back?I have stayed in 5 different Marriott chain hotels in Beijing and I have never had problems walking in with company. Don't know about Hilton though.

Good luck.

J Fox
09-12-12, 20:12
I have stayed in 5 different Marriott chain hotels in Beijing and I have never had problems walking in with company. Don't know about Hilton though.

Good luck.Off topic, but can you post some info on the Marriott hotels. Good / bad, yadda yadda

BillingFord
09-13-12, 12:53
Off topic, but can you post some info on the Marriott hotels. Good / bad, yadda yaddaIn general all of them are same same. But as with everything else in Beijing, it depends on where you have to be in the morning. Due to traffic. So make your decision based on location relative to your (real) business needs.

By the way, all of them provides in-room massage with the possibility of (ridiculously priced) upselling. So if you are looking for that kind of entertainment, there's plenty of good alternatives in this forum.

BillingFord
09-13-12, 19:09
Anyone have an update on Maggies? I would like to check it out as well. I've only been there twice and didn't take anyone home either time. I know its mostly about the money and it shouldn't matter but is it harder for Chinese to pick up there? I'm Canadian born Chinese and I've never had any girls approach me there even if dressed nicely and just hanging out by the bar. Definitely made eye contact with a few but its still always me doing the approaching and then they never seem to be that interested. Maybe I just need to seal the deal a bit quicker before a more "foreign looking" foreigner catches their interest? Still would love to give it another shot. I know some of the more senior members would like to tell me that I'm definitely missing out.Maggie's nights can range from quite slow to fun filled, action packed experiences. I always enjoy my visits there, but I can tell by the look on the other patrons' faces that not all share that sentiment.

I'm sure seniors will tell you to "act foreign", make them know you are a CBC, and to take initiative, no need to be shy. If you end up taking one of the Northern Sisters with you, and treat her well, your consecutive visits will be much more interesting (as rumor travels pretty fast in there).

Gualtier Malde
09-14-12, 05:58
Long time monger here (SE Asia, DR, Eastern Europe, etc.)

Anyways, now married to hot, younger (than me) Russian. We now like to cpls swap, not shy.

Any action like this to be found? 3somes with escorts or cpls with expats or

Mongers with dates. Any combination (s). Hope this isn't too of the wall but hey this IS.

A sex guide forum. Thanks for any info.

JPM me. My GF and I would be interested. She is bi, just in case your lady is interested in that.

GM.

JamesC
09-14-12, 10:37
Hello,

I have been viewing this forum for awhile and I've decided to make a first post due to an AWFUL experience last night and I hope no one has to experience this in the future. However, I will share a good one as well. I read some of the posting guidelines so if I break a rule or offend someone please let me know, it is not my intention.

I am pretty much a rookie at "mongering" and I've learned a lot from this forum such as reading Sammy's basic guide and such. Being in Beijing for 9 months now, I've just started the mongering business a couple months ago because I recently moved closer to the center of the city.

A good experience I had is a girl I found either from this forum or through links after links. Anyways online. Her name is XiaoSi (&23567; &24605. And I called her one night to hook up and she was very patient with me from the beginning to the end. I first talked to her in Chinese (I am ABC) which made her a little uneasy, I think, so I switched right away to English. It was an in-call and she gave the taxi driver directions to her place and I eventually found it after a few calls to her since my sense of direction is horrible. It's near Sanlitun village and when I first got to her room we just chit chatted for a bit and I took a quick shower. She took probably about 15-20 minutes giving a nice massage and it didn't feel rushed at all. This was around 1 or 2 AM and we were chatting the entire time. Xiaosi has a nice face, nice body and a great personality. She is very kind, gentle and pretty much asked what I wanted. We started with a tit job then a BJ and then various positions, I forget all the names of it. I gave her 1000 in the end but at first she asked for 1500. I think it was a bit much and talked her down to it. Here is her phone number 1-358-182-1577, you can just say James referred you for the same price and she told me that she has many other friends (around 10?) and that she is also down for "4 hands." It's all negotiable.

Now last night I wanted to look for some fun so I rode my bicycle around the neighborhood looking for a BBS. I first arrived at a place that said "SPA" and I saw a pretty woman going into it so I just made an assumption. When I first got in, I was greeted by an older woman and I saw another younger pretty woman in a short skirt with very tight shorts, which is a pretty good sign. The older woman gave me a list of "massages" they do and first took me into a room and the younger woman came and asked me what I wanted. I asked if she had any other services in Chinese but she didn't really answer me and just pointed at a 138 RMB massage and said this is the most popular one. I don't really know if there is a key word or phrase to let them know what I want and at the same time I felt a bit awkward if I asked a little too directly. Either way, I just took the offer because it looked promising. She took me to an unlit room next and closed all the windows and asked me to take off my clothes and put on these disposable shorts. I left my boxers on again because those disposable shorts weren't that secured and I think they were see through and once again I didn't know if we were on the same page, per say. Now we began the massage and she was really professional it felt like. It felt like those professional foot massages but she was dressed all sexy. She even pulled my shorts down a bit where my ass crack was showing and massaged all around my thighs, my butt cheek while lying down. Then she had me turn over where I'm facing up and massaged my inner thigh and chests. After about an hour though, I thought there was something wrong because it was way too professional and she just told me times up and didn't offer me anything else. Now this was really puzzling for me. Is this just a kind of massage where young hot girls give you a nice rub but don't do anything else? Or maybe I didn't ask for the right thing and they didn't offer anything because I look really young even though I'm 25. I was really confused and left with a disappointment.

However, I was still determined and knew of another place. I live in Sihui East (&22235; &24800; &19996. In a small community called Si li Pu (&21313; &37324; &22561. On Chaoyang Road. Now I strongly discourage anybody going to this BBS. This BBS is very visible and it's on Chaoyang Road going east. Around Si li Pu there is an "ItoYokado" (Japanese supermarket called Hua tong &21326; &22530; in Chinese, most taxi drivers know it) and it's maybe 500 M after passing this market. It's bright neon pink lights and you can see girls sitting at the front. I first went in and the mamasan very old asked me Bao Jian in Chinese? I'm not sure what it meant but she just lead me to a room. Then another girl came to me and asked me what I wanted. 300 RMB for "the pao?" and 400RMB for fulls service. Now from what I read, this sounded like a rip off because all over the forums and online I've been seeing that it should be 100RMB for HJ and 200-300 for everything. However, I didn't haggle because it was still cheaper than the previous services I've paid for such as the one I mentioned earlier. This girl was all about business. Her face was okay maybe 6/10 and her body looked alright in a dress and in the dark. When I got in the room she just started to take off her underwear and told me to take everything off. Then I lied down facing up and she started stroking my P right away while playing with my nipples. I got a little hard and then she took out a condom and had such a lot of problems putting it on. I think these Chinese condoms are all mini sizes or something. Anyways she gave me a BJ next and I got a little harder and then I went inside her. I was on top for a few minutes but I asked her for different positions and she wouldn't do it. She doesn't look as good now and she had 2 or 3 rolls on her stomach which was a turn off. She wouldn't do anything, just laid there like a plant making fake moans. Soon enough, I hear mamasan say "times up" or something in Chinese and it's been like 10 minutes. She told me hurry up but by this time I pretty much lost interest and wasn't even hard anymore. I told her, I wasn't aware of a time limit and she said of course there's a time limit. I told her you didn't indicate it in the beginning and she said the samething. She said most men just come in here and 5 or 6 minutes they will be done and said that how long do I expect? I just answered till I finish but she continued to make up reasons after reasons. Being unreasonable and illogical. I kept point out the fact she never mentioned a time prior and she says everyone knows there is a time limit. But I told her it's only been like 10 minutes and she didn't care. I told her just to finish the service please and she continued to stroke my penis. However, she just couldn't get it hard anymore after continuous arguments. She said mamasan is going to deduct her bill if I don't finish fast and just a bunch of BULLS*T. After another 5 or 10 minutes of attempting to get me hard, I just said forget it, I'll do it myself. So I pretty much masterbated in front of her while she just touched my different body parts and finished up. It was really disappointing and during the entire process it just felt like an argument. I guess this is a disadvantage for looking young and Chinese. Two busts in a night, is just horrible.

Anyways, it's a long post, sorry. If any more experienced members can give me advice such as if the prices were reasonable, what I should've done, ect, I will really appreciate it. If anyone has any additional questions about the girl XiaoSI I mentioned or where this BBS is please feel free to PM too. Lastly, does anyone know any other places around SiHui or Sihui Dong? I'm mainly looking for a cheaper way for the full package and don't prefer outcalls. If anyone is down to go hunting, I am up for it too! Hope this post helped.

Business Class
09-14-12, 16:31
Hey, brothers.

It's been a few years since I've been back. I'm planning to hit all the old haunts. Anyone know if the Grand Millennium has issues bringing a guest back at night after curfew? Never had a problem at other select places, but this is my first stay at GM. Any first hand accounts would be appreciated. I read the earlier posts, but there wasn't a clear answer.

Thanks!

BC

Thomas Jefferson
09-14-12, 16:35
Hey, brothers.

It's been a few years since I've been back. I'm planning to hit all the old haunts. Anyone know if the Grand Millennium has issues bringing a guest back at night after curfew? Never had a problem at other select places, but this is my first stay at GM. Any first hand accounts would be appreciated. I read the earlier posts, but there wasn't a clear answer.

Thanks!

BCStayed there 2 years ago, nice hotel and never had problems bringing girls in, or had outcall girls come up to my room.

Thomas Jefferson

Joe Yap
09-14-12, 16:57
First time to Beijing.

Went to sanlitun and met a tout who promised for rmb100 table fee and tips is up to us.

Ended up in a KTV. 4 of us guys and 4 girls. Plus the mummy. Total 5 girls.

Drank beer that night which is ok.

But the girls will try to order liquor which says rmb120 per oz. Then ordered 7 glass. 1 glass is said to be 5oz costing Rmb600!

We immediately noticed this is blackmail.

Asked manager to prepare bill. The girls said rmb100 is table money per head.

But tips is minimum Rmb500 per head.

Total bill is RMB9800.

We ended up arguing and not wanting to pay that much. Finally settled for rm5000.

So beware of street taut who says or convince you to go with them.

Beijing is all bullshit.

Stegram
09-14-12, 23:32
First time to Beijing.

Beijing is all bullshit.Rule #1. Never never ever follow a tout. It's been written on this forum a thousand times.

Rule #2. When in doubt, refer to rule #1.

Business Class
09-14-12, 23:36
Stayed there 2 years ago, nice hotel and never had problems bringing girls in, or had outcall girls come up to my room.

Thomas JeffersonThank you, Mr. President. Looking forward to the trip.

Joe Yap
09-15-12, 01:05
We have been going to sanlitun, houhai and mostly being approached by tout.

My Fren ordered a LT for Rm1100 but after 1 shot, she gave lame excuses and leave. We know it's all bull but no point keeping her if she wants to leave.

So would like to seek advice from the Beijing guru here and perhaps give us some contacts so we won't get cheated anymore. Kinda fedup with all those bullshits by touts.

Thanks in advance.


Rule #1. Never never ever follow a tout. It's been written on this forum a thousand times.

Rule #2. When in doubt, refer to rule #1.

FunMan13
09-15-12, 09:33
Coming to Beijing in early Novenber. Got to get me a Mongolian stunner somehow. I was in Maggies three times last November, all three time no Mongolian was interested in me. I am a Chinese American. 6ft tall and slim to average, not bad looking. I have never had any problem anywhere in thr world. Nevetheless I will persevere. I shall get my Mongolisn lady soon. But any help suggestion, any recommendation, any assistance from experienced dancing school, with information, please help. Thanks

Gualtier Malde
09-15-12, 09:50
Coming to Beijing in early Novenber. Got to get me a Mongolian stunner somehow. I was in Maggies three times last November, all three time no Mongolian was interested in me. I am a Chinese American. 6ft tall and slim to average, not bad looking. I have never had any problem anywhere in thr world. Nevetheless I will persevere. I shall get my Mongolisn lady soon. But any help suggestion, any recommendation, any assistance from experienced dancing school, with information, please help. ThanksThere are two surefire secrets to getting a Mongolian stunner in Beijing. Here you go:

1. Never reveal all your secrets.

2.

GM.

Gualtier Malde
09-15-12, 09:57
We have been going to sanlitun, houhai and mostly being approached by tout.

My Fren ordered a LT for Rm1100 but after 1 shot, she gave lame excuses and leave. We know it's all bull but no point keeping her if she wants to leave.

So would like to seek advice from the Beijing guru here and perhaps give us some contacts so we won't get cheated anymore. Kinda fedup with all those bullshits by touts.

Thanks in advance.Joe,

Of course you broke the first rule, of not following a tout. Guaranteed ripoff or worse, you could get beaten and robbed.

The second mistake you obviously made: DO NOT PAY UNTIL THE END. Your girl would not have made a lame excuse and left otherwise. If you negotiate LT and she leaves after ST, you pay her YOUR ST rate (Give her 300 and kick her out if she has given you FS, and DO NOT NEGOTIATE at that point. If she tries to negotiate, give her NOTHING and kick her out.)

But if this was all tout based, and you are in their establishment, you are already in deep doodoo. You are not in a position to negotiate, because there's a good chance they'll beat the rest of the money out of you later. DO NOT FOLLOW TOUTS. DO NOT PAY IN ADVANCE.

If the girl does not abide by your pay at the end policy, KICK HER OUT IMMEDIATELY. She is there to rip you off. Do us a favor and don't be a sucker!

GM.

Gualtier Malde
09-15-12, 10:13
Anyways, it's a long post, sorry. If any more experienced members can give me advice such as if the prices were reasonable, what I should've done, ect, I will really appreciate it. If anyone has any additional questions about the girl XiaoSI I mentioned or where this BBS is please feel free to PM too. Lastly, does anyone know any other places around SiHui or Sihui Dong? I'm mainly looking for a cheaper way for the full package and don't prefer outcalls. If anyone is down to go hunting, I am up for it too! Hope this post helped.You weren't too terribly far off on price for Beijing. I'm finding that alot of the BBS shops, especially near laowai areas, are increasing prices. My little secret local place still has a couple of providers that do me good for 300 typically, though they don't set a price, we just have an understanding. But they are jacking up the price for new customers. I'm told they are charging new laowais 600. For that you might as well call up Angel's service.

As far as time, if it really is a pure BBS, they want you in and out. If it is a massage place that offers extras, they'll charge you the massage fee and if you paid for a 90 minute massage, they'll usually fill in the remaining time after sex with massage. But this is not consistent. Really depends on the place.

Some of the Spa places are getting bolder. I had a mamasan call me in from the street recently, and as soon as I got close to her, grabbed my crotch and asked me if I wanted a sex massage (her words)."Not from you!" was my immediate thought, but I bit my tongue to see what would happen. She paired me up with an acceptable partner.

GM.

Explorer88
09-15-12, 16:58
Coming to Beijing in early Novenber. Got to get me a Mongolian stunner somehow. I was in Maggies three times last November, all three time no Mongolian was interested in me. I am a Chinese American. 6ft tall and slim to average, not bad looking. I have never had any problem anywhere in thr world. Nevetheless I will persevere. I shall get my Mongolisn lady soon. But any help suggestion, any recommendation, any assistance from experienced dancing school, with information, please help. ThanksFunman,

One of the reasons you may have a problem at Maggie's is that the girls there are not allowed to leave with Chinese customers. It keeps it strictly foreigner leaving with foreigner. Even though you are American, they might not want to chance it because of your looks. If they get caught leaving with a Chinese, they can get banished from weeks to months. That's a lot of earning potential to give up for them.

While on the topic of Maggie's anyone know if the female singer of the band is available for take out?

One Eyed Man
09-15-12, 17:26
While on the topic of Maggie's anyone know if the female singer of the band is available for take out?I'm sure many of us have had the same thought, but she's married to one of the band members.

Explorer88
09-15-12, 17:40
I'm sure many of us have had the same thought, but she's married to one of the band members.That's curious. Never got that vibe. Which one is she married to?

Intransit
09-15-12, 19:03
Police took away three girls at Mags tonight around 1 am. No one I know, I couldn't I'd them. Pokice came, apparently did their thing and left. Expect more of this until Nov.

Intransit
09-15-12, 19:15
If there is a woman sexier than singer Jennifer at Maggie's (Coco excepted) , I expect the elder brothers to introduce.

Shinjuku
09-15-12, 21:26
was in beijing on holiday recently and decided to try out a few outcall providers based on what i've read on isg and another forum.

lily.

sent a text about 1. 30am and immediately received a reply from lily. asked for a good kisser and able to provide gfe. several names were mentioned but was told only yezhi and yoyo were available. didn't have any preference so liy said she'll send yezhi. about an hour later received a small knock on the door. opened it and invited the girl in. she appeared a bit nervous as i wasn't staying in one of the large international hotels and police checks were apparently a possibility. to make things worse she had knocked on the wrong door before mine. she looked through the peephole for a few seconds to make sure she hadn't been followed and that she hadn't awakened the other room. once she was sure it was ok, she turned around and i was able to get a proper look at her. found myself looking at a very attractive girl wearing a plain white blouse and skirt (which hid her figure very well). when i checked the website again later, realized that the girl was actually yoyo, not yezhi as lily had indicated. had no complaints though as yoyo was gorgeous with a great figure. she had a quick shower and dived underneath the covers and i immediately joined her. found that she had fake tits which were a little hard. but with a status of bj queen on her website profile, she soon more than made up for it. she insisted on a cbj and even with the cap on, she had a way with her tongue and suction which meant i wasn't going to last very long. final bill was 600rmb as published on the website and she was left as quickly as she appeared.

fiona.

tried texting fiona on 2 different nights but never received a reply. suspect she cannot reply to international numbers (maybe other members can confirm)

angel.

was another late one and sent a text to angel about 1am. didn't bother making any specific requests since i figured by now it's more about whoever is available. angel indicated mary and linda were free. decidedt to choose mary as linda's photo on the website looked remarkably similar to yoyo from the previous night. and mary was definitely a good choice. it was a similar routine as the other night as mary jumped into the shower as soon as she arrived. however mary did not seem as rushed, as after she showered we cuddled underneath the covers and chatted for a bit. got to know that she was still relatively new to beijing and was also looking for proper employment. we talked a bit further about her life and what i was doing in beijing but alas i could not hold back my gentlemanly restraint for too long being in such close proximity to her soft warm body. she has amazing breasts which she used to gave a nice titfuck and she gave a decent bbbj as well. eventually i put the cap on and continued with a number of positions before finally shooting inside her. she hung around for a bit after the end and i showed her some picture from when i was in chengdu (her hometown) and other holiday pictures. really liked her and would probably have extended the session to lt if i wasn't flying out of beijing first thing in the morning.

summary.

both providers (lily and angel) were quite reliable. girls were the same as the pictures from the website and they generally try to please. however next time will arrange for an earlier session. while the girls were not watching the clock, by the time each session finished it was already pretty late and they clearly wanted to get home to get some sleep (which i can understand). if i'm ever in beijing again, will also try picking up in the bars and maggie's for a bit of variety.

Sib828
09-16-12, 01:17
Trawlerman. Fiona's prices start at 1000rnb, Kittie 600.

Any difference in looks / quality? Sounds like no so why even try Fiona's.


Tried all three now, Angel twice, and was very satisfied each time. I just gave a vague description of the kind of girl I wanted (in not very fluent Chinese) and relied on their selection. None of the girls had "model" looks but they were all young and definitely hot enough for me, and had a pretty good attitude. Most recently, my girl from Kitty was 19, with tight fresh skin and pussy, nice firm round tits, and a pleasure to fuck. She had a tentative lick-o-centric BJ style that was not exactly the best-of-my-life-orgasm-inducing-suck-job, but so deliciously cute that made the subsequent penetration immensely rewarding. None of the girls spoke any English and I go the impression that speaking Chinese with the providers gave me access to a wider range of girls.

Xxx Man
09-16-12, 02:18
Just spent a week in Beijing. I stayed near Lido and was surprised to see all the massage joints closed and bars were without any women. Could just manage a massage with a HJ from the hotel spa. I wonder how long this will go on.

M6393
09-16-12, 04:33
About to have my first time experience in BJ in 2 days from now. I am undecided between Fiona, Angels and a few other agencies and independent wg's I have some phone numbers for.

Not sure what to expect but I hope it's worth the time and cost. I hope I don't just get some 5/10 on looks. That would be a complete waste of time / cost for me.IMHO Angel's is the way to go. I'm not the most experienced guy on this forum, but I think the price and service from Angel's is fantastic. I just had a great experience with Ting Ting. Easy 7-8 on looks but even better with the attitude. I told Angel I wanted a girl that would shower with me prior to any activity. Problem was the shower in my hotel was too small to really enjoy the experience. I ended up stopping the shower activity since it really wasn't working, but Ting Ting gave it a great effort. We finished up in bed, she gave a good BBBJ, I had to stop her as I didn't want to blow just yet. Sadly I'm only good for one round these days. I wanted a little DATY which Ting Ting really enjoyed, then finished up mish. She wanted to stay and keep massaging me, but I was ready to sleep, so I sent her on her way. Will repeat for sure. Total damage. 600 rmb to Angel, I believe that is standard, and 100 rmb to Ting Ting.

Seniors please correct me if I should be getting Angel's service for less.

FernandoAlonso
09-16-12, 06:39
Police took away three girls at Mags tonight around 1 am. No one I know, I couldn't I'd them. Pokice came, apparently did their thing and left. Expect more of this until Nov.Intransit,

Thank you for this report, please give me some more details via pm what happened. Where it Chinese or Mongolian girls they took? Did they check passports or directly grab them?

MAybe just flexing muscles, maybe visa, maybe.

Thanks FA

FernandoAlonso
09-16-12, 06:42
Coming to Beijing in early Novenber. Got to get me a Mongolian stunner somehow. I was in Maggies three times last November, all three time no Mongolian was interested in me. I am a Chinese American. 6ft tall and slim to average, not bad looking. I have never had any problem anywhere in thr world. Nevetheless I will persevere. I shall get my Mongolisn lady soon. But any help suggestion, any recommendation, any assistance from experienced dancing school, with information, please help. ThanksSory to hear,

They are actually also afraid of Chinese because could be plainclothes LE. Best way is befriend (or ask, buy some drinks and maybe tip) one of the bar guys, they all know the gals, if he vouches for you it should be no problem.

FA

FernandoAlonso
09-16-12, 06:47
Saturday in Maggie's many Mongolian. Some of them really nice (7-8). I pick up one for 1. 000 rmb. Really friendly!

Will come back!MAte,

Great you had a good time. Could you provide some detail? What time you pick up? Was it ST? How did you get the original price? Did they not ask 2000?

Thanks,

FA

Brooklyn Cyclone
09-16-12, 08:13
On the way home recently saw something pretty funny, or sad, depends on your perspective.

I was walking home one night and heard some kind of commotion near my compound's entrance. Stopped to listen and figured out the situation. One taxi driver was asking the security guards whether anyone knew a place called Lotus Spa because his customer wanted to go there and apparently nobody knew where it was. Taxi driver was desperate and was asking if anyone speaks English can explain to his customer. I immediately figured out what this was about. Clearly someone saw from another website about Lotus Spa and thought it was a sauna establishment and wanted to go there. I went over to taxi and explained to the bro, looked like someone from Europe. He thanked me and asked taxi to take him back to the hotel.

I have never been to Lotus Spa. I saw it on the same website and contacted them once. My understanding is it is not an established sauna like those in other cities. Instead, it is an apartment in some residential building. The price they quoted me was 498, 798, 998 for hand, boob, and mouth happy ending. No full service. They would not give the actual address unless I call.

If anyone has been to Lotus Spa, please share your experience so we don't have another situation like the one above happened.

Brooklyn Cyclone
09-16-12, 08:19
Joe,

Of course you broke the first rule, of not following a tout. Guaranteed ripoff or worse, you could get beaten and robbed.

The second mistake you obviously made: DO NOT PAY UNTIL THE END. Your girl would not have made a lame excuse and left otherwise. If you negotiate LT and she leaves after ST, you pay her YOUR ST rate (Give her 300 and kick her out if she has given you FS, and DO NOT NEGOTIATE at that point. If she tries to negotiate, give her NOTHING and kick her out.)

But if this was all tout based, and you are in their establishment, you are already in deep doodoo. You are not in a position to negotiate, because there's a good chance they'll beat the rest of the money out of you later. DO NOT FOLLOW TOUTS. DO NOT PAY IN ADVANCE.

If the girl does not abide by your pay at the end policy, KICK HER OUT IMMEDIATELY. She is there to rip you off. Do us a favor and don't be a sucker!

GM.GM is absolutely right. For anybody that is reading this forum for the first time, Rule #1, #2, and #3:

DO NOT FOLLOW A TOUT!
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Regardless how desperate or horny you are! No good things will come out of it. Luckily in China, most of time you just get ripped off. In Beijing or Shanghai they rarely beat you up, as long as you pay that is. I have heard horror stories from other cities and countries.

Brooklyn Cyclone
09-16-12, 08:35
Now from what I read, this sounded like a rip off because all over the forums and online I've been seeing that it should be 100RMB for HJ and 200-300 for everything.

Anyways, it's a long post, sorry. If any more experienced members can give me advice such as if the prices were reasonable, what I should've done, ect, I will really appreciate it. If anyone has any additional questions about the girl XiaoSI I mentioned or where this BBS is please feel free to PM too. Lastly, does anyone know any other places around SiHui or Sihui Dong? I'm mainly looking for a cheaper way for the full package and don't prefer outcalls. If anyone is down to go hunting, I am up for it too! Hope this post helped.I have been to Beijing for over 3 months now. Have not been to any place that charges 100 for HJ and 2-300 for full service. I live around east 2-ring. If anyone knows any place with this price range, please share.

1000 for in-call is a bit expensive. 1500 definitely is out of market range. You can get outcall for 600-800 -- some outcall charges over 1000. Just don't call them :)

ChinBro
09-17-12, 08:07
After much effort, I finally had my first MoMO girl for free last night, a really wonderful night! She's only 19 yrs old, operating her own taobao shop, eager to find somebody handsome and stronge to have fun with. And I happened to be that man. She stands around 166cm high, 8/10 on looks, B / B- Cup, pink and tender tits, great figure with fair and silk skin. When she showed up, I wasn't really surprised at her great appearance, as we had checked each other via web cam. Actully, she looked more attractive than through web cam. From 4 pm yesterday afternoon till this morning, 4 shots and a lot of fun, definitely an unforgettable lover and night!

Anyone has any similar experience by MoMO?

ChinBro

Gualtier Malde
09-17-12, 15:41
Just spent a week in Beijing. I stayed near Lido and was surprised to see all the massage joints closed and bars were without any women. Could just manage a massage with a HJ from the hotel spa. I wonder how long this will go on.Beijing is a big pond. If the fish aren't biting in one spot, you need to move to another. Right now, the fishing is pretty good in some parts, not as good in others. But that's the way it always is. In this kind of business, nothing stays in the same place forever.

If you spent a week here, you needed to look beyond Lido, which was well documented to have had some pressure recently. Right across Jing Mi road in Wang Jing, you'd have probably been happy enough in their parlors. If you had gone into more central Beijing, you'd have found spas and MPs happy to make you happy. There's Mongols in Maggies. MPs at the north end of subway Line 5, ladies ready to play in the bars, ladies waiting for your call at Angels, freebies on Wechat / Weixin, hookers on QQ, I could go on and on.

Read the forum and fish where the fish are biting.

GM.

BeijingCbc
09-17-12, 19:06
After much effort, I finally had my first MoMO girl for free last night, a really wonderful night! She's only 19 yrs old, operating her own taobao shop, eager to find somebody handsome and stronge to have fun with. And I happened to be that man. She stands around 166cm high. 8/10 on looks, B / B- Cup, pink and tender tits, great figure with fair and silk skin. When she showed up, I wasn't really surprised at her great appearance, as we had checked each other via web cam. Actully, she looked more attractive than through web cam. From 4 pm yesterday afternoon till this morning. 4 shots and a lot of fun, definitely an unforgettable lover and night!

Anyone has any similar experience by MoMO?

ChinBroNice one ChinBro, I've been using Momo since I arrived. Definitely a great resource for those who have a bit of Chinese, even for those that don't. I've had a number of freebies from there but some of my caucasian friends (I'm a Canadian born Chinese) have had even more success than me. There are definitely girls on there that can speak some English looking to hook up with foreigners. I've written about my Momo experiences in previous posts. And there some pay to play girls on there as well.

JamesC
09-18-12, 04:52
On the way home recently saw something pretty funny, or sad, depends on your perspective.

I was walking home one night and heard some kind of commotion near my compound's entrance. Stopped to listen and figured out the situation. One taxi driver was asking the security guards whether anyone knew a place called Lotus Spa because his customer wanted to go there and apparently nobody knew where it was. Taxi driver was desperate and was asking if anyone speaks English can explain to his customer. I immediately figured out what this was about. Clearly someone saw from another website about Lotus Spa and thought it was a sauna establishment and wanted to go there. I went over to taxi and explained to the bro, looked like someone from Europe. He thanked me and asked taxi to take him back to the hotel.

I have never been to Lotus Spa. I saw it on the same website and contacted them once. My understanding is it is not an established sauna like those in other cities. Instead, it is an apartment in some residential building. The price they quoted me was 498, 798, 998 for hand, boob, and mouth happy ending. No full service. They would not give the actual address unless I call.

If anyone has been to Lotus Spa, please share your experience so we don't have another situation like the one above happened.I'm not sure but I've found a "LOTUS CLUB" online before and it has the exact same prices as you mentioned. I added the QQ and their account was capped (can't add new people) and had another QQ account under their QQ "Details." Anyways after some digging I eventually got in contact with someone who gave me the address. It turned out to be an apartment and I paid 500 for a HJ, when I thought it was FS. The directions they gave me was this. (Dong sishi tiao qiao wang dong di yi ge tianqiao wang bei xin zhong jie 50 mi) It was near Sanlitun village. Phone number was 18311346553.

The experience there. I had a pretty hot girl named Lili who gave me a HJ for 500. The girl wore stockings and no matter what she wouldn't do FS. I got her QQ afterwards and she said she wanted to try "FS" with me but we never settled on the price. I was thinking if it's 1000 for head then it's not going to be worth it for FS. I kind of thought it was way too expensive but she did take her time and let me shower. Also, when I called a very paranoid man picked up and I believe there are 2-3 working girls in the apartment that time.

I hope this is the same place and helped.

Faguoren
09-18-12, 04:58
There's a fairly reliable FS massage place on the south west corner of Beixingqiao. Right next to the south west subway exit is a small park. Its in the building right next to the park. The door of the massage place isn't facing the street, but is off of a driveway into an apartment block, but you can see it from the street. Its right across the street from a ginormous court building.

The service there is fairly reliable at 500 rmb FS. The girls cycle in and out, and range from overweight and unappealing to completely gorgeous with most being somewhere in the 6-7 range. Its right on the west edge of guijie, so you can expect to wait for service if you go on a Friday or Saturday night.Thanks for this report.

Also I am an old Beijinger, this is only my second report as I think it is worthwhile giving reports only when there is added value.

My first one was about an apartment massage place on south east corner of guomao which is my favourite place and where the service is (I think) of very high value for money.

I tried the place mentioned in the report I quote above and I found the service is just ok value for money, too much rushed for my taste. I went there in day time in an afternoon and I was a bit horny also.

The place is in a basement.

The price was 600 for 1 pop. They also offered another service for 800 but I did not get what it was. Anyway. 1 pop was good enough for me.

They first came with a girl which I would give 4/10 (and I am generous). When I asked to see another girl, the one who came was a solid 7/10 and much more to my taste. Nice breast (a good B+) and a nice body. Not too skinny, not fat either, just the way I like them.

They first take you to a locker room and give you pyjamas (you can take a shower there). Then you are led to a room (which I found quite smelly and not so clean)

The girl asked me to get naked and she went naked straight a way as well. She gave me a very short BBBJ just to get me hard enough to put on the condom and then fuck direct in missionary. No other position available.

I finished quite fast as I was very horny and the girl was pretty much to my taste, so not much to complain as I had what I came for.

However, and to be fair, I think the place and service do no worth more than 5 to 6/10.

This is it so far.

FreebieFan
09-18-12, 06:36
Greetings Beijing Mongers. Arriving soon in Beijing, on permanent assignment having spent several years in other Asian cities, doing a bit of work and a lot of mongering. Lots of trip reports to my name specifically from Manila, HK, Taipei, Singapore, Bangkok, Jakarta, KL and a few other places. Anyone needs info on those spots happy to share.

In a previous life (with previous name) had many reports about life in Shanghai where I think my trusty bike and I sampled as many of the BBS as I could. Once my bike arrives in Beijing I look forward to repeating the excercise.

Have met many fellow mongers on my travels and we all seem to be a good bunch of guys with a pussy obsession. Look forward to meeting some of you fine folk once am settled in Beijing and of course look forward to reporting on the good adventures that are to be had.

Will update more once I am in country.

InChinaNow88
09-18-12, 07:03
Hey guys. Just wanted to give you a heads up. An expat friend of mine got grabbed by LE going into a apartment with a working girl and her ayi. Haven't heard any details beyond what local LE has divulged. He confessed, is getting deported, once his 15 days are complete. He may or may not be able to reapply for a visa. It wasn't a "sweep" of an entire KTV or massage place. It wasn't a sting exactly, but it sounds like LE had their eye on this particular apartment complex, and grabbed this group. He is getting out soon, but not sure if we will get a chance to see him before he gets sent home. This is not to throw cold water on anybodies fun. But especially right now, with the handover going on, just something to consider. LE doesn't even have to notify your embassy for four days. Then they typically let someone come check on you from your embassy. Having asked around the locals. It sounds like 15 days is pretty standard. Factor it in while weighing your risks vs. Rewards, as it can have pretty significant impact for some. Not just you, but possibly your family living here as well. FYI.

FunMan13
09-18-12, 08:33
I am Chinese-American from Texas. 6ft tall, slim to average, look 50-55yo, decent looking, not ugly. I have been to Maggies several times. I have made the first moves to the Mongolians, offered to buy drinks, etc, but they would politely shake their heads and reject me. Two times I decided to stay until 4 or 5 AM to see if they will concede but NO, they left by themselves. I am talking about 10 to 15 girls! They rather go home empty-handed than go with me.

The only way we Asians can score is if a kindly Caucasian who is well-known to the girls help us by telling the girls we are his friend, and that we are Westerners, not locals, and we are kind and generous. Who will help us? I am in BJ from Nov. 6-8 and Nov. 16-20.

Funman13.


Maggie's nights can range from quite slow to fun filled, action packed experiences. I always enjoy my visits there, but I can tell by the look on the other patrons' faces that not all share that sentiment.

I'm sure seniors will tell you to "act foreign", make them know you are a CBC, and to take initiative, no need to be shy. If you end up taking one of the Northern Sisters with you, and treat her well, your consecutive visits will be much more interesting (as rumor travels pretty fast in there).

FunMan13
09-18-12, 09:19
Hi Faguoren,

Where is this favorite place of yours in Guomao? Can you share it with us? I am not too familiar with Beijing. I could not PM you since you are not a paid member. Thanks.

Funman13.


Thanks for this report.

Also I am an old Beijinger, this is only my second report as I think it is worthwhile giving reports only when there is added value.

My first one was about an apartment massage place on south east corner of guomao which is my favourite place and where the service is (I think) of very high value for money.

World Guy Sh
09-18-12, 10:26
I am Chinese-American from Texas. 6ft tall, slim to average, look 50-55yo, decent looking, not ugly. I have been to Maggies several times. I have made the first moves to the Mongolians, offered to buy drinks, etc, but they would politely shake their heads and reject me. Two times I decided to stay until 4 or 5 AM to see if they will concede but NO, they left by themselves. I am talking about 10 to 15 girls! They rather go home empty-handed than go with me.

The only way we Asians can score is if a kindly Caucasian who is well-known to the girls help us by telling the girls we are his friend, and that we are Westerners, not locals, and we are kind and generous. Who will help us? I am in BJ from Nov. 6-8 and Nov. 16-20.

Funman13.I think FA answered the question below. Become known as a regular I guess so they can relax around you. Just chill at the bar and play with the bar girls. I am no Maggies expert but have always found the bar girls a great place to start: they are easy going, happy to chat on the whole and sometimes (and this goes back a good couple of years so may have changed) be up for a dance. One night when I was going no where the bar girl was great in introducing me to a couple of Northern Sisters. Also, don't forget a tip for the bar girl, esp. If she does find you someone. You may need her again next time!

And of course, finding wingman also helps.

Sure you will get there. I know ABC's who have done well.

WGS

Dan Diggler
09-18-12, 16:02
Hey guys. Just wanted to give you a heads up. An expat friend of mine got grabbed by LE going into a apartment with a working girl and her ayi. Haven't heard any details beyond what local LE has divulged. He confessed, is getting deported, once his 15 days are complete. He may or may not be able to reapply for a visa. It wasn't a "sweep" of an entire KTV or massage place. It wasn't a sting exactly, but it sounds like LE had their eye on this particular apartment complex, and grabbed this group. He is getting out soon, but not sure if we will get a chance to see him before he gets sent home. This is not to throw cold water on anybodies fun. But especially right now, with the handover going on, just something to consider. LE doesn't even have to notify your embassy for four days. Then they typically let someone come check on you from your embassy. Having asked around the locals. It sounds like 15 days is pretty standard. Factor it in while weighing your risks vs. Rewards, as it can have pretty significant impact for some. Not just you, but possibly your family living here as well. FYI.That my friend is scary.

Thanks for the warning.
On the way to BJ for the weekend.
Might bring takeout with me.

Seekingals
09-18-12, 17:41
Hi everybody.

I'm Kitty. I would like to introduce one of my hottest girls. Tina to you.

Tina is a tall girl. 170 cms net height, very accommodating, believe me, she will definitely give you wonderful G. F. E.

Furthermore, Tina can speak English well, so it will help especially if you can't speak mandarine at all.

Below is a summary,

Name: Tina.

Age: 23 years old.

Height: 170 cms, net height.

Figure: good shape, big round butt, fair skin.

English: she can speak English well.

Attitude: very accommodating, wonderful G. F. E, believe me.

Price: RMB 600, including taxi, no any other hidden charges.

Best regards.

KittyI had this girl just now, turned out to be a quite good session.

And Tina matches well with what Kitty described above about her.

So if you're not familiar with Beijing, or don't have time, or just a little too lazy to hang out checking out other mongering scenes, Kitty's delivery / outcall service would be a very nice solution.

By the way, Kitty's contact and blog can be seen on 'Classified Ads' section.

Seekingals

FunMan13
09-18-12, 18:53
Thanks World Guy Sh, you are totally correct about becoming a regular so that the girls can relax around you. I do that and never had trouble in places I go frequently. I always tip the girl, more if she's great, hoping that word will get around that if I am treated well there will be a reward.

Unfortunately I can only visit Beijing once a year, each time for 3-4 days. I can't sit in Maggies for all 3-4 days. So it's hard to get to know the people who work there. So the only alternative is find a regular to help. Ahh, still got to get that elusive Mongolian! Thanks All.


I think FA answered the question below. Become known as a regular I guess so they can relax around you. Just chill at the bar and play with the bar girls. I am no Maggies expert but have always found the bar girls a great place to start: they are easy going, happy to chat on the whole and sometimes (and this goes back a good couple of years so may have changed) be up for a dance. One night when I was going no where the bar girl was great in introducing me to a couple of Northern Sisters. Also, don't forget a tip for the bar girl, esp. If she does find you someone. You may need her again next time!

And of course, finding wingman also helps.

Sure you will get there. I know ABC's who have done well.

WGS

One Eyed Man
09-18-12, 19:08
Tonight (Tuesday) I stopped by Maggie's about midnight, since I had a small victory to celebrate. Normally Sunday and Monday are dead, and the girls come back on Tuesday.

Maggie's was really quiet, and about 12:30 I realized why. There were no Mongolians there at all! I asked one of the bartenders, who didn't give me a helpful answer. Then one of the bargirls told me that a cop had stopped by and told them to keep a low profile until after the National Congress in October. The manager, though, took it very seriously and banned all but a handful of Mongolians from entering. I noticed a couple of CIS girls, and after 1:00, one Mongolian I didn't recognize was granted permission to stay. I also saw the one I dislike with a bobbed haircut, D-cups and a bad attitude sneak in. The bargirl thought things would be back to normal after the national holiday. With so few women she joked about Maggie's becoming a gay bar, but I was too sad to laugh.

If you like bargirls, I saw three new ones that I thought were fairly attractive. Many of the recent hires haven't been so great, so I was happy for this development.

For those of you that are hot for Jennifer, the singer of the band, she told me that she was available. She's divorced, but there is no divorce in the Philippines, so figurin out he status is too complicated for me.

I also stopped by Chocolate, but the bar area was completely empty.

If any of you have a Mongolian sighting in Beijing or know their whereabouts, please write a report.

OEM

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Sammy_T
09-19-12, 06:24
Hey guys. Just wanted to give you a heads up. An expat friend of mine got grabbed by LE going into a apartment with a working girl and her ayi. Haven't heard any details beyond what local LE has divulged. He confessed, is getting deported, once his 15 days are complete. He may or may not be able to reapply for a visa. It wasn't a "sweep" of an entire KTV or massage place. It wasn't a sting exactly, but it sounds like LE had their eye on this particular apartment complex, and grabbed this group. He is getting out soon, but not sure if we will get a chance to see him before he gets sent home. This is not to throw cold water on anybodies fun. But especially right now, with the handover going on, just something to consider. LE doesn't even have to notify your embassy for four days. Then they typically let someone come check on you from your embassy. Having asked around the locals. It sounds like 15 days is pretty standard. Factor it in while weighing your risks vs. Rewards, as it can have pretty significant impact for some. Not just you, but possibly your family living here as well. FYI.This is a little scary. If you can, please try to find out some additional information for us:

Where was the apartment complex? Was he going into his apartment, or going to hers?

Were they returning from a bar or a late night out (and may have been followed) or were they picked up in the afternoon, indicating they were watching the apartment building?

Was the working girl sent by one of the out-call services, or someone he picked up on the street? Had he just met her, or know her for a while?

What was his nationality? Did he look western, or was is he a western born Chinese? What was her nationality (Chinese, Mongolian, Russian or other)? What happened to her? Was his visa and police registration documents in order? Any idea if her visa documents were in line?

Sorry for all of the questions, and I understand you may not know any of the answers, but any additional information you can provide will certainly help us out!

I spoke to one of the girls that was picked up at Maggie's last week. She said it was no big deal. They just took the girls that did not have their passports with them. Once they presented their passports, as well as the document showing they had registered at the local police station, they were set free. Several years ago, right before the Olympics, I had a couple of Mongolian friends picked up by the cops from a bar. All of the girls had valid passports and visas, but 2 of the girls had not properly registered at the police station. They were told they were in violation of the law and had to leave China within 5 days. They have not been allowed back in China since, but hope to be able to come back in 2013 (after 5 years).

If you stay in a hotel then they automatically register you at the police station. If a girl checks in to the hotel with you and she presents her passport then she will also be registered. If you or your girl stay in a local apartment then you must register yourself with the local police station. This can be a hassle as you must also take a copy of your landlord's I'd card. Plus, the girls normally stay 6 girls to an apartment, and they are only allowed to register 2 people, leaving the others exposed. This is the #1 way non-Chinese girls get caught in China.

Like many of the senior members on this board I am plugged into the Mongolian network. I'll try to see if I can find out where they are all going now that Maggie's is out. I am afraid that the answer is probably Hong Kong or Shanghai.

Good luck and stay safe out there!

Sammy

Joel77
09-19-12, 11:04
I would say forget the hassle and racism. They're just working girls!


I am Chinese-American from Texas. 6ft tall, slim to average, look 50-55yo, decent looking, not ugly. I have been to Maggies several times. I have made the first moves to the Mongolians, offered to buy drinks, etc, but they would politely shake their heads and reject me. Two times I decided to stay until 4 or 5 AM to see if they will concede but NO, they left by themselves. I am talking about 10 to 15 girls! They rather go home empty-handed than go with me.

The only way we Asians can score is if a kindly Caucasian who is well-known to the girls help us by telling the girls we are his friend, and that we are Westerners, not locals, and we are kind and generous. Who will help us? I am in BJ from Nov. 6-8 and Nov. 16-20.

Funman13.

Brooklyn Cyclone
09-21-12, 01:17
I'm not sure but I've found a "LOTUS CLUB" online before and it has the exact same prices as you mentioned. I added the QQ and their account was capped (can't add new people) and had another QQ account under their QQ "Details." Anyways after some digging I eventually got in contact with someone who gave me the address. It turned out to be an apartment and I paid 500 for a HJ, when I thought it was FS. The directions they gave me was this. (Dong sishi tiao qiao wang dong di yi ge tianqiao wang bei xin zhong jie 50 mi) It was near Sanlitun village. Phone number was 18311346553.

The experience there. I had a pretty hot girl named Lili who gave me a HJ for 500. The girl wore stockings and no matter what she wouldn't do FS. I got her QQ afterwards and she said she wanted to try "FS" with me but we never settled on the price. I was thinking if it's 1000 for head then it's not going to be worth it for FS. I kind of thought it was way too expensive but she did take her time and let me shower. Also, when I called a very paranoid man picked up and I believe there are 2-3 working girls in the apartment that time.

I hope this is the same place and helped.Thanks for sharing. That is exactly what I expected. So for anyone thinks it is a FS sauna. It is not. Plus there is no fixed address. A friend of mine told me he was given a different address so my guess is for safety reason they move from time to time.

BTW, did the girl let you touch during massage / HJ?

Old South
09-21-12, 14:29
Tonight (Tuesday) I stopped by Maggie's about midnight, since I had a small victory to celebrate. Normally Sunday and Monday are dead, and the girls come back on Tuesday.

Maggie's was really quiet, and about 12:30 I realized why. There were no Mongolians there at all! I asked one of the bartenders, who didn't give me a helpful answer. Then one of the bargirls told me that a cop had stopped by and told them to keep a low profile until after the National Congress in October. The manager, though, took it very seriously and banned all but a handful of Mongolians from entering. I noticed a couple of CIS girls, and after 1:00, one Mongolian I didn't recognize was granted permission to stay. I also saw the one I dislike with a bobbed haircut, D-cups and a bad attitude sneak in. The bargirl thought things would be back to normal after the national holiday. With so few women she joked about Maggie's becoming a gay bar, but I was too sad to laugh.

If you like bargirls, I saw three new ones that I thought were fairly attractive. Many of the recent hires haven't been so great, so I was happy for this development.

For those of you that are hot for Jennifer, the singer of the band, she told me that she was available. She's divorced, but there is no divorce in the Philippines, so figurin out he status is too complicated for me.

I also stopped by Chocolate, but the bar area was completely empty.

If any of you have a Mongolian sighting in Beijing or know their whereabouts, please write a report.

OEMI was at Maggies the night before you, Monday 9-17, and I saw quite a few, not as many as before, but then, it was a Monday.

I saw a few new bar girls, one was pretty but not slim at all, she said she was a recent college grade, so I bought her a few drinks. Overall, I am lossing interests on Maggies, the Mongolians too old or too fat and the bar girls usually also quite heavy as well.

The singer you mentioned was the only attractive girl there, IMHO.

One word about Asian guys, myself being one, as someone had posted to wonder about this, Maggies managemnt told all the girls to avoid any asian looking guy. In fact, this new girl I approached first made an excuse to slip away a bit and then came back. She told me she needed to first get clearance from her manager, and me being a regular patron excepted me from the No-Asian policy. I am sure it is the same with the northen sisters.

OS

Maxxxi
09-24-12, 15:43
Hi guys,

I know this is probably not the best place to post, but I'm about to come to BJ for 10 days and would like to make the best out of my time. I prefer going for freebies, because it makes me feel better (good for my ego. , but I don't dislike a good massage or other from WG, possibly GFE.

Do you guys think it's worth it coming there with my pre-requisites? I'm 48 old, caucasian, grey hair. 6'8 tall & average body, good experience in picking up worldwide.

I'm expecting something like in Japan, where I had a great time (see my past reports).

Thanks in advance to all of you!

Old South
09-24-12, 19:08
This has been discussed in the past, but recently, there are so many pimps on WeChat that I thought very little of it, until I came to BJ last week alone.

I was staying in the Hotel New Otani Chang Fu Gong, being really bored waiting for the party at Caribe to start, I played with WeChat a bit, and surprisingly, a girl responded and asked me to come over to where she was eating dinner. I went over and indeed saw a very pretty girl looked pretty much like the pictures on her WeChat albums. I was shy and didn't want to just sit down so I told her I will go to the cafe next door. Once there, I asked her to come over when she finished dinner, and she did, amazing, just like that. It was a raher nice cafe, being dark with piano playing and all that, we both got coffee and talked. She said she was 21, and she didn't mind at all that I am an old man. She did hinted that she was not feeling well, probably related to her period. I had only one night in BJ and I still need to go to Caribe, so ask if she would come, and she said she was not feeling so well that night, so I left her to finish her coffee and went on my way.

If I have more time in BJ, and if she is a bit more skinner, she looked like 50kg, and I like <45kg, I may spend more time with her and even skip my Caribe night, but looks like WeChat is still rather viable in BJ.

OS

BeijingCbc
09-25-12, 04:45
This has been discussed in the past, but recently, there are so many pimps on WeChat that I thought very little of it, until I came to BJ last week alone.

I was staying in the Hotel New Otani Chang Fu Gong, being really bored waiting for the party at Caribe to start, I played with WeChat a bit, and surprisingly, a girl responded and asked me to come over to where she was eating dinner. I went over and indeed saw a very pretty girl looked pretty much like the pictures on her WeChat albums. I was shy and didn't want to just sit down so I told her I will go to the cafe next door. Once there, I asked her to come over when she finished dinner, and she did, amazing, just like that. It was a raher nice cafe, being dark with piano playing and all that, we both got coffee and talked. She said she was 21, and she didn't mind at all that I am an old man. She did hinted that she was not feeling well, probably related to her period. I had only one night in BJ and I still need to go to Caribe, so ask if she would come, and she said she was not feeling so well that night, so I left her to finish her coffee and went on my way.

If I have more time in BJ, and if she is a bit more skinner, she looked like 50kg, and I like <45kg, I may spend more time with her and even skip my Caribe night, but looks like WeChat is still rather viable in BJ.

OSIn addition to the outcalls (Angel, Kitty, Fiona) , I think WeChat and Momo are the most viable options now. I've noticed that many places are drying up in Beijing recently. Lots of Chinese forums and websites I normally go to have disabled or deleted their "seeking partners or personals" sections and exploring around the city, many BBS shops look empty or have shut down. Probably having something to do with the National Day and transfer of power coming soon.

Anyone else noticed this?

I did swing by Maggies over the weekend just to take the advice of some senior members and talked with some of the bar girls trying to build a rapport with them. I'm starting to think that perhaps I could just chat up the northern sisters and get their numbers for later or for afternoon hookups. I don't think they would mind seeing a CBC as long as they're not seen leaving the bar with a Chinese-looking guy.

Think that would work?

BeijingCbc
09-25-12, 04:54
Hi guys,

I know this is probably not the best place to post, but I'm about to come to BJ for 10 days and would like to make the best out of my time. I prefer going for freebies, because it makes me feel better (good for my ego. , but I don't dislike a good massage or other from WG, possibly GFE.

Do you guys think it's worth it coming there with my pre-requisites? I'm 48 old, caucasian, grey hair. 6'8 tall & average body, good experience in picking up worldwide.

I'm expecting something like in Japan, where I had a great time (see my past reports).

Thanks in advance to all of you!If you're confident in your ability, then its definitely worth coming despite the upcoming National Day holiday. There's always freebies around the bar areas and just sign up for a WeChat account or if you know Chinese, a Momo account and I'm sure you'll get plenty of action (I've shared some experiences from those in previous posts).

If you can't find anything, the outcalls which have been reviewed many times in the past are a good and reliable cheap option. Just make sure you ask for a girl that can provide GFE beforehand.

Gualtier Malde
09-25-12, 06:35
This has been discussed in the past, but recently, there are so many pimps on WeChat that I thought very little of it, until I came to BJ last week alone.I've not had any encounter with pimps on WeChat. I have interacted with many ladies on it, and even though I too am old, I have had no shortage of younger women interested in chatting and meeting. Most I don't meet, but I have met a few. It is a great way to meet freebies.

To Maxxxi, you can give it a try, but in my experience, it is more difficult to catch and bed a freebie if you are only here for a short visit. Some will, but you just need to work them, and especially convince them that while you are only here for a short visit, you'll be coming back frequently, and you will stay in touch with them.

GM.

Maxxxi
09-25-12, 10:01
If you're confident in your ability, then its definitely worth coming despite the upcoming National Day holiday. There's always freebies around the bar areas and just sign up for a WeChat account or if you know Chinese, a Momo account and I'm sure you'll get plenty of action (I've shared some experiences from those in previous posts).

If you can't find anything, the outcalls which have been reviewed many times in the past are a good and reliable cheap option. Just make sure you ask for a girl that can provide GFE beforehand.I'm coming around October 12, so the holiday should be over, right?

What is the best strategy to approach a freebie in China? I have a few, promising contacts with girls from QQ, but I can't say if they will come out when I'm there (one is 29, married, the other is single but workaholic). Reading the forum, I understand that if a girl responds to eye contact, then she's a WG. Is it correct? If so, it's a bit confusing.

Another question: which area do you recommend for hotel accomodation? I'd like to be where the freebie action is (Sanlitun?) , but possibly not too far from touristic attractions.

Sorry for the huge list of questions, thanks in advance.

Joel77
09-26-12, 11:00
Sucks but I think they have a no Asian customer policy IIRC.


I don't think they would mind seeing a CBC as long as they're not seen leaving the bar with a Chinese-looking guy.

Think that would work?

BeijingCbc
09-27-12, 03:37
Found a new QQ contact yesterday just browsing through random Chinese sites. 1366975348. The picture in her QQ profile isn't her, or if it is, is a much younger version of her.

A bit older, probably mid to late 30s, a 5 or 6 in my opinion but very friendly personality. She has her own place above the Carrefour at Jiandemen on Line 10. Chatted with her in the morning, and arranged to meet in the afternoon. Her place is a small studio but clean, she offered me a bottled water and we sat down on the couch and chatted for a while.

Clothes came off about 10 mins later, good shape for an older woman, B-cups at best. BBBJ. 69 and multiple positions. Not shaven, but trimmed and fresh and clean, no smell at all which I usually worry about when it comes to older Chinese women. Finished in doggy and chatted some more before taking off.

500 for a pop, was there for almost an hour. Prefer to stick with the outcalls but was decent for something a little different. Will keep her contact if I'm ever in the area and feel like I need my pipes cleaned.

Chinese speaking and no English so you'll need to be able to communicate in Chinese.

Staid Lo
09-27-12, 05:45
I'm not sure how many members here use Momo, since its exclusively in Chinese but I've had a few interesting conversations on there lately. Haven't tried any of these options but if other members want to take one for the team, please feel free and report back! I live near Sihui and since Momo uses location services, all these options are around this area. Was chatting with a girl (Momo#13649668) , pictures look genuine and extremely hot, especially the one where you can see her tattoo on her lower abdomen just above her crotch. She originally quoted me 3000 for a night, but after a while she was willing to lower it to 2000. Still a bit expensive for me so didn't go for it. Another girl (Momo#4660361) works at a KTV near Sihui. Her profile says she's 19 and the pics are quite cute. She said the room fee is 800 and I assume take out would be extra on top of that. I tried to convince her to meet up without going through the KTV but she said it wasn't possible when she's working. She told me to message her in the afternoons or if I catch her on a day off, then we could work out a private arrangement. Haven't done so as of yet.

Anyone have any luck on WeChat or Momo lately?Hi BeijingCBC bro,

Thank you for bringing momo to my attention. Installed this app and reged. But I have a hard time initiate conversation with the talents around me. I m wondering if you could share your tactic in identifying the talents & initiating the conversation. I usually lookatthe posted pics and made comments about them. But I rarely get a response.

Thanks again for intro us to momo & any advices in advance.

Cheers

Staid

BeijingCbc
09-27-12, 11:16
Hi BeijingCBC bro,

Thank you for bringing momo to my attention. Installed this app and reged. But I have a hard time initiate conversation with the talents around me. I m wondering if you could share your tactic in identifying the talents & initiating the conversation. I usually lookatthe posted pics and made comments about them. But I rarely get a response.

Thanks again for intro us to momo & any advices in advance.

Cheers

StaidHey Staid,

I don't think of myself as an expert or anything but I can share my experiences and knowledge on how I normally approach girls on Momo. First, I wouldn't say I have a specific tactic, but talking with some of the girls I've met on momo, they've told me they usually ignore guys who don't have their profile and info filled out and with at least a couple clear pics. So definitely have those.

I get a lot that don't reply as well and its just a matter of moving on to the next one. For example, I'll sometimes send the same greeting to 10 girls but only two will get back to me. I'll just work on those two. I also use the custom filter to only show girls that have been active in the last 15 mins, so I know they've been on the app recently and more likely to reply. There are many girls on there that are just bored and want to chat, some just to browse around but you'll need to talk with them before you find out. So my advice is just don't be discouraged, keep going and you'll find one or two willing to have some fun.

When I message them, I usually start with a pleasant hi or hello, and maybe comment on their pics in a flirtatious or playful manner. Many times, I'll make a wise ass (sometimes a little rude) remark on what they write in their introduction just to break the ice. Once I get the conversation started, I try to set up a date to go have a drink or coffee, and then make the move in person. Sometimes, based on the conversation, I'll just be pretty direct and ask if they want to hang out at my place or tell them to invite me over to theirs. I'll usually take this direct approach with girls that have very suggestive pictures and tell me they're bored and just watching tv at home or not up to much. Either way, I always try to be a little playful and mysterious and not answer their questions directly just to keep myself interesting.

If they are working girls, you'll know pretty soon into the conversation and they'll just give you a price either for one shot or for overnight. A lot of the massage places are quite obvious as well since they'll mention massages in either their username or in their profile.

I've had many more failures than successes on Momo but the great thing about it is that there are plenty of girls on there and you'll never run out of opportunities.

Kajos
09-27-12, 17:28
Nice report Chris!

To update, Dongzhimen food museum has been closed for several days now. Will report if it opens again.

I walked in another place, same side of the road and a block east. They offered HJ massage starting at RMB 500 and implied FS at 800 plus. The three girls on shift looked tired and lumpy so I told them it was way too expensive and walked out. The rooms looked nice though, well decorated with fancy shower.

Did find another place nearby with very good oil massage and HJ for RMB 250. Higher price than Wangjing but comes out to about the same for me when I figure in taxi costs. Room was ok, a little musty but with a good bathroom and shower, looks like they do steady business with legit massage too. The girl was from anhui, chubby, didn't allow much groping or disrobing on her part but the massage + HJ were excellent and finished the hour with an excellent head massage. Will go back to check out again.

Hard to say if the showers indicate a higher chance of more services. Most massage places (not BBS) where I've had FS do not have showers. Usually I make sure there is at least HJ on the menu before I start the massage. If HJ is ok then FS seems like it's always a possibility, depending on the girl. Had good FS in Wangjing massage place about three weeks ago. Girl was in mid-late 20s, great smooth skin, clean, cool. She initiated, not rushed, nice movement, multiple positions. RMB 300 directly to the girl on top of the RMB 160 massage plus HJ. Did not bargain and suspect she would have gone with RMB 200. Bring your own rubbers. I'm pretty sure she can do outcall.

PM me for locations and details of the girls.


In the past few weeks, I visited three MPs in Chaoyang. Here is a short report.

1. Dongzhimen foot museum just west of the intersection of dong zhi men the jie and Chun xiu lu. It has been reviewed in this forum before. Although it's in the basement, the place is quite clean, has a small shower in the rooms and fairly open about their services. 300 for massage+HJ (shoujiao) , and 400 for breast massage (xiong tui). You can tell what you want right at the counter or once you are in the room, so no need to negotiate after starting the massage (which always kills my mood). I asked for a breast massage and they sent me a masseuse who had very nice breasts (a large C, may be even a D) and pleasant. She said she was 27. She is not what I'd call thin, but she was not fat either. After about 1/2 hour of regular massage, she turned down the light (the rooms have small glass windows) , removed her top and panties (kept her skirt though) , but was quite open to be touched. Perfect breasts for a breast massage with dark perky nipples. First she teased with her breasts and then got quite vigorous. After about 15 minutes of this, we both realized that I was not going to come this way, so she got into a kneeling (like a 69, but on her knees, no mouth contact, but I could finger her while she stroked me) and turned on a light to give me a view. She was quite wet and seemed like she even had a mini orgasm. After cleaning up, I gave her a generous 100 rmb tip and she gave me her phone number and ask for her next time. She said that none of the girls do BJ or FS. Not sure if she would if you call her for a takeout. This is a place I will repeat.

A general observation (and I'd like to hear others' opinions) : if it's not an obvious BBS, but is an MP, a general rule of thumb: if it has showers, the chances that it provides extra services is much higher.

Also, if anyone can PM me if any of the nicer saunas like Regency, Sunshine, ShiYi, Chunliu are still operating, I'll greatly appreciate it.

Staid Lo
09-28-12, 07:31
Hey Staid,

I don't think of myself as an expert or anything but I can share my experiences and knowledge on how I normally approach girls on Momo. First, I wouldn't say I have a specific tactic, but talking with some of the girls I've met on momo, they've told me they usually ignore guys who don't have their profile and info filled out and with at least a couple clear pics. So definitely have those.

I get a lot that don't reply as well and its just a matter of moving on to the next one. For example, I'll sometimes send the same greeting to 10 girls but only two will get back to me. I'll just work on those two. I also use the custom filter to only show girls that have been active in the last 15 mins, so I know they've been on the app recently and more likely to reply. There are many girls on there that are just bored and want to chat, some just to browse around but you'll need to talk with them before you find out. So my advice is just don't be discouraged, keep going and you'll find one or two willing to have some fun.

When I message them, I usually start with a pleasant hi or hello, and maybe comment on their pics in a flirtatious or playful manner. Many times, I'll make a wise ass (sometimes a little rude) remark on what they write in their introduction just to break the ice. Once I get the conversation started, I try to set up a date to go have a drink or coffee, and then make the move in person. Sometimes, based on the conversation, I'll just be pretty direct and ask if they want to hang out at my place or tell them to invite me over to theirs. I'll usually take this direct approach with girls that have very suggestive pictures and tell me they're bored and just watching tv at home or not up to much. Either way, I always try to be a little playful and mysterious and not answer their questions directly just to keep myself interesting.

If they are working girls, you'll know pretty soon into the conversation and they'll just give you a price either for one shot or for overnight. A lot of the massage places are quite obvious as well since they'll mention massages in either their username or in their profile.

I've had many more failures than successes on Momo but the great thing about it is that there are plenty of girls on there and you'll never run out of opportunities.Great advice, thank you BeijingCbc. I need to start putting pictures on my profile and cast the net wide.

Cheers,

Staid

Trawlerman
09-29-12, 11:04
Trawlerman. Fiona's prices start at 1000rnb, Kittie 600.

Any difference in looks / quality? Sounds like no so why even try Fiona's.Not in my (limited) experience. But I didn't go for one of the girls featured on her website, and I was charged less than 1000. Can't remember the exact amount now.

ChinBro
09-29-12, 11:43
Hey Staid,

I don't think of myself as an expert or anything but I can share my experiences and knowledge on how I normally approach girls on Momo. First, I wouldn't say I have a specific tactic, but talking with some of the girls I've met on momo, they've told me they usually ignore guys who don't have their profile and info filled out and with at least a couple clear pics. So definitely have those.

I get a lot that don't reply as well and its just a matter of moving on to the next one. For example, I'll sometimes send the same greeting to 10 girls but only two will get back to me. I'll just work on those two. I also use the custom filter to only show girls that have been active in the last 15 mins, so I know they've been on the app recently and more likely to reply. There are many girls on there that are just bored and want to chat, some just to browse around but you'll need to talk with them before you find out. So my advice is just don't be discouraged, keep going and you'll find one or two willing to have some fun.

When I message them, I usually start with a pleasant hi or hello, and maybe comment on their pics in a flirtatious or playful manner. Many times, I'll make a wise ass (sometimes a little rude) remark on what they write in their introduction just to break the ice. Once I get the conversation started, I try to set up a date to go have a drink or coffee, and then make the move in person. Sometimes, based on the conversation, I'll just be pretty direct and ask if they want to hang out at my place or tell them to invite me over to theirs. I'll usually take this direct approach with girls that have very suggestive pictures and tell me they're bored and just watching tv at home or not up to much. Either way, I always try to be a little playful and mysterious and not answer their questions directly just to keep myself interesting.

If they are working girls, you'll know pretty soon into the conversation and they'll just give you a price either for one shot or for overnight. A lot of the massage places are quite obvious as well since they'll mention massages in either their username or in their profile.

I've had many more failures than successes on Momo but the great thing about it is that there are plenty of girls on there and you'll never run out of opportunities.Great report, bro BeijingCbc. I had two more freebies since the first one. Seems I'm becoming more skillful, hahhh. And I've almost loved Momo to be honest.


Hi BeijingCBC bro,

Thank you for bringing momo to my attention. Installed this app and reged. But I have a hard time initiate conversation with the talents around me. I m wondering if you could share your tactic in identifying the talents & initiating the conversation. I usually lookatthe posted pics and made comments about them. But I rarely get a response.

Thanks again for intro us to momo & any advices in advance.

Cheers

StaidHi, Staid, honestly, I don't think it's an effective and efficient way to initiate a conversation by making comments on their looks. I was told not just once that they would be sick of that way being approached. From my experiences, you better spend several minutes in studying her profile so that broadly know what kind of woman she is and what she wants to get from Momo. Then start a targeted conversation instead of just saying 'Hi' or 'Hello' to your her. To me, it's a good way to get more responses.

Just my two cents. Other suggestions, see bro BeijingCbc's report above, its a great report.

ChinBro

Jude Bright
09-29-12, 19:04
Found a new QQ contact yesterday just browsing through random Chinese sites. 1366975348. .The above site is down for the pass several days, or at least I can not access or contact this number from the US.

JB

BeijingCbc
09-29-12, 19:59
The above site is down for the pass several days, or at least I can not access or contact this number from the US.

JBThere is no site. Its just a QQ number. I don't think she has a QQ homepage set up, never checked. Just add her in your QQ.

Haokool
10-08-12, 08:51
Hi all. I am glad some of you guys visited the place.

Congratulations and kudos on you two for being such troopers!

YES, they are (will be) surprised to see a Laowai.

NO. Not 800 (actually 700) is for FS. Unless they raised it or the dud took and extra 100 for himself.

NO. The girls in the lobby ARE ONLY hostesses, here to welcome you, and nothing else. Ignore them or whatever and just walk to the large counter.

YES, R LO (2flr) , yes the room is around 400 RMB looking like a 4 or 5 stars hotel room.

YES, you can chose your room, just tell them BU HAO (I don't like it)

YES, staffs working on the second floor will do whatever they can to help you, even if you cannot communicate, tell them ANMO (massage) PIAOLA (pretty)

YES, when you are in the room make a sign to the guy that you want sex. Point at your didi, he will understand trut me.

YES, they have 2 sets of girls, the tallest are for FS going by 50mn but price lowered by 200 each time adding 50mn.

YES, it is a family place, usually packed on the weekend.

Did you go to the VIP restaurant? Smaller comparing to the other one.

You do not have to sleep there, you can sleep there for the same price if coming after 11pm (no extra charge)

Ask the staff for a TAXI, they will get you one.


Blossom Seasons Club.

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Just read the report from Frankfurt and obviously was there just one day later; I had a completely different experience, although it may not be everybodies taste. Yet, as you read my report you can see that also I was not far from being ending in the nowhere. I simply believe they did not understand what Frankfurt wanted, as the club apperas very serious and high class! . And they seem to expect no Europeans in general.

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Okay, today I finally went to the Blossom Seasons Club. It really is far out of city (approx. 70 RbM with taximeter) and good to take the telephone number of the club as taxi drivers don't seem to find it alone.

When arriving everybody appeared very surprised what I am doing there (I mean a caucasian). After not letting me send home I convinced them after 10min to allow me to enter spa in basement, and made clear that I want to go to 2nd floor thereafter.

The club is a blast. Very luxurious and high class. So prepare to behave very well there, be quiet and drink delicious hot milk. Really.

I do not really know what they charge in detail in there, but around 100- for the various hot roots and? (whatever I ate there. To eat.

Once you are ready (note: everybody is naked in the spa area, and only men are allowed. Did NOT see a single non-Chinese there; and also nobody who speaks more than 2 words of english. You head up to the 2nd floor. BTW, perhaps thats the reason that the building says "Blossom Seasons Club", without the "international" part. There for sure is nothing international there, also the girls I saw (standing at the entrance in hotel like dresses) were all Chinese. (Can you know already choose the girl there or not at all!)

On the 2nd floor note immediatately that you want a first class girl ("number one girl"). I could not choose exactly which, and found no way to explain them. But anyways what they sent after saying "number one girl" was excellent. (I assume there are also other classes and prices for less pretty ones?)

A young Chinese girl, very nice skin, slim and sweet face.

It starts with a slow massage, very nice, after 30min it becomes a bit more erotic, and for me she started also giving a VERY sensual erotic massage which challenged my inhibition skills a lot. (after around 45min.) You pay 800 for 90min. Of course you will have a happy ending and the 90min appear to be respected sharp. So no stress once you arrive.

Yet I did not really figure out which (all?) girls would also have sex or even would get naked. I understood that my girl meant 1500- to have her be naked. But I did not get if this also includes 90min sex.

Can some insider clarify? . Guess thats not an insignificant information in the forum here!

Anyways, I did not even regret the 800- deal because it was soooo good, and she anyways was only wearing a short skirt and touching you with her body constantly. I of course also tried to touch her, she felt okay if I was very cautious. But resisted real kissing.

Again no idea what you are expected to do or not to do with the 800- package?

All in all my best experience also there was no intercourse and naked girls involved. It simply had class!

(BTW, the spa itself is already worth a couple of quiet, pampering hours: you can enjoy body scrub or sauna or water whirlpools there)

Cheers A.Blossom Seasons Club. Different. But great experience!

Blossom Seasons Club.

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Just read the report from Frankfurt and obviously was there just one day later; I had a completely different experience, although it may not be everybodies taste. Yet, as you read my report you can see that also I was not far from being ending in the nowhere. I simply believe they did not understand what Frankfurt wanted, as the club apperas very serious and high class! . And they seem to expect no Europeans in general.

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Okay, today I finally went to the Blossom Seasons Club. It really is far out of city (approx. 70 RbM with taximeter) and good to take the telephone number of the club as taxi drivers don't seem to find it alone.

When arriving everybody appeared very surprised what I am doing there (I mean a caucasian). After not letting me send home I convinced them after 10min to allow me to enter spa in basement, and made clear that I want to go to 2nd floor thereafter.

The club is a blast. Very luxurious and high class. So prepare to behave very well there, be quiet and drink delicious hot milk. Really.

I do not really know what they charge in detail in there, but around 100- for the various hot roots and? (whatever I ate there. To eat.

Once you are ready (note: everybody is naked in the spa area, and only men are allowed. Did NOT see a single non-Chinese there; and also nobody who speaks more than 2 words of english. You head up to the 2nd floor. BTW, perhaps thats the reason that the building says "Blossom Seasons Club", without the "international" part. There for sure is nothing international there, also the girls I saw (standing at the entrance in hotel like dresses) were all Chinese. (Can you know already choose the girl there or not at all!)

On the 2nd floor note immediatately that you want a first class girl ("number one girl"). I could not choose exactly which, and found no way to explain them. But anyways what they sent after saying "number one girl" was excellent. (I assume there are also other classes and prices for less pretty ones?)

A young Chinese girl, very nice skin, slim and sweet face.

It starts with a slow massage, very nice, after 30min it becomes a bit more erotic, and for me she started also giving a VERY sensual erotic massage which challenged my inhibition skills a lot. (after around 45min.) You pay 800 for 90min. Of course you will have a happy ending and the 90min appear to be respected sharp. So no stress once you arrive.

Yet I did not really figure out which (all?) girls would also have sex or even would get naked. I understood that my girl meant 1500- to have her be naked. But I did not get if this also includes 90min sex.

Can some insider clarify? . Guess thats not an insignificant information in the forum here!

Anyways, I did not even regret the 800- deal because it was soooo good, and she anyways was only wearing a short skirt and touching you with her body constantly. I of course also tried to touch her, she felt okay if I was very cautious. But resisted real kissing.

Again no idea what you are expected to do or not to do with the 800- package?

All in all my best experience also there was no intercourse and naked girls involved. It simply had class!

(BTW, the spa itself is already worth a couple of quiet, pampering hours: you can enjoy body scrub or sauna or water whirlpools there)

Cheers A.

Originally Posted by Frankfurt [View Original Post]

So I land in Beijing and in absence of any intelligence about places to monger near my hotel, I ran into this guy's posting. Rather thesis on, The Blossom Spa. Here is my brief account of the night's proceedings. I was staying at Crowne Plaza Haidian which seem to be in the boonies. Anyhow I ask the bell boy to get a taxi to take me to Blossom Spa. I read such great things about the so called Sex on 2nd Floor that I had to check it out for myself. It was around 11PM now and no taxi driver had a F'and clue where this place was. The bell boy goes to the concierge and the smart guy prints a map. Now it's about midnight and taxis are hard to come by. Anyhow he goes out on the road in front of hotel and drags a taxi driver to take me to Blossom Spa. I slip a 50RMB to bell boy for job well done. Within 5-7 minutes of drive, I could see that taxis is in no man's land. I don't see street lights and no signs of tall buildings. Nothing. But the driver seemed to know where he was going. Fine. I said let's see. In 20 minutes or so, on the right side, in the middle of pretty much nowhere I see the big Blossom Spa. I could feel the excitement building and at the same time I was trying to look past the fact that there will be no F'and taxi around at 2AM when I would leave the place.

Anyhow, as suggested in the posting, I enter from the middle entrance. The lighting is low, girl in short skirt greeting. I could feel the momentum building until I (and as suggested by the poster) told them I want a room on 2nd floor. Dead silence. No one understood a word of English and am surrounded by 5-6 guys girls with walkie talkies. I said no problem. Said to them ni bu ming bai woh shoa sha ma? You don't understand what I say? And 5 heads nod in agreement. Fine. Pull out the smart phone and start typing on the translator app. Oh ok, now they understood. I even added, I am looking for a pretty miss. Hahahaa they say and next thing I know they want a 1000 RMB deposit. At this point the bell is ringing in my head. Deposit for what? Then the next thing they want is I'd. And I was like huh? I had left the hotel with enough for round trip taxi and for the girl. As the poster said that the damage was around 700RMB. Ok at this point the manager chimes in, talks in Mandarin to the lady at desk who was asking for my credentials. And next thing I know he hands me a key and asks for deposit. I said fine and gives him 1000 RMB and the desk lady gives me the receipt. At this point, I knew that this is no f'and ordinary 'spa' as I had been to many in China. Now the walkie talkies are going off and there walks a cute ass girl dressed in black and short skirt, walkie talkie in hand and says to me. This way please. Now my hopes are UP again and it's finally going to happen. We get to second floor and something doesn't look right. The second floor is JUST LIKE A NORMAL HOTEL! Before I could ask her anything she keys me in and starts to leave (nice room by the way) and I was like whoa lady hang on! I wouldn't go in next 15 minutes of back and forth smart phone translator app exchange but the punch line is and PAY ATTENTION GUYS:

1. 2nd Floor is no F'and sex floor. It is a NORMAL HOTEL that costs around 800 RMB a night! (Hence 1000RMB deposit)

2. You can get the girl which is OF COURSE extra money. Another 800 RMB.

So I stand there like a f'and idiot as to what the F am I doing here as I ALREADY have a room in Crowne Plaza and why should I pay almost 1600 RMB plus round trip taxi for a girl when I could have called a random outcall number from Craigslist. Not to brag but this is where my negotiation skills saved the day. I talked that cute ass girl to let me CHECK OUT at this minute and give me back my refund as I was totally misled into the whole thing. She starts her walkie talkie and next thing I hear from her OK OK and I was like PHEW!

Did it end there? N F W! Now it was after 1AM and not even donkey carts let alone taxi in sight. The cute ass girl to rescue again. Long story short, there she goes on her walkie talkie again and next thing I know hotel private car comes around. The driver has bad mutha fucka attitude. But her charm wins his hard ass. She says the driver will take me there. I was like that cute ass girl is heaven sent and if I could only pay her back with my hands, lips and jimmy! I shake her hand, slip her a 100 RMB and off we go. The driver asked for 40 which the girl had told me would be the cost.

I ended up with blue balls and a bad f'and taste in her mouth. If it weren't for the cute ass girl, this would have been the worse mongering expedition in China for me.

So there you have it. The skinny on Blossom Spa.

Haokool
10-08-12, 08:53
Hi all. I am glad some of you guys visited the place.

Congratulations and kudos on you two for being such troopers!

YES, they are (will be) surprised to see a Laowai.

NO. Not 800 (actually 700) is for FS. Unless they raised it or the dud took and extra 100 for himself.

NO. The girls in the lobby ARE ONLY hostesses, here to welcome you, and nothing else. Ignore them or whatever and just walk to the large counter.

YES, R LO (2flr) , yes the room is around 400 RMB looking like a 4 or 5 stars hotel room.

YES, you can chose your room, just tell them BU HAO (I don't like it)

YES, staffs working on the second floor will do whatever they can to help you, even if you cannot communicate, tell them ANMO (massage) PIAOLA (pretty)

YES, when you are in the room make a sign to the guy that you want sex. Point at your didi, he will understand trust me.

YES, they have 2 sets of girls, the tallest are for FS going by 50mn but price lowered by 200 each time adding 50mn.

YES, it is a family place, usually packed on the weekend.

Did you go to the VIP restaurant? Smaller comparing to the other one.

You do not have to sleep there; you can sleep there for the same price if coming after 11pm (no extra charge)

Ask the staff for a TAXI, they will get you one.


Blossom Seasons Club.

*

Just read the report from Frankfurt and obviously was there just one day later; I had a completely different experience, although it may not be everybodies taste. Yet, as you read my report you can see that also I was not far from being ending in the nowhere. I simply believe they did not understand what Frankfurt wanted, as the club apperas very serious and high class! . And they seem to expect no Europeans in general.

*

Okay, today I finally went to the Blossom Seasons Club. It really is far out of city (approx. 70 RbM with taximeter) and good to take the telephone number of the club as taxi drivers don't seem to find it alone.

When arriving everybody appeared very surprised what I am doing there (I mean a caucasian). After not letting me send home I convinced them after 10min to allow me to enter spa in basement, and made clear that I want to go to 2nd floor thereafter.

The club is a blast. Very luxurious and high class. So prepare to behave very well there, be quiet and drink delicious hot milk. Really.

I do not really know what they charge in detail in there, but around 100- for the various hot roots and? (whatever I ate there. To eat.

Once you are ready (note: everybody is naked in the spa area, and only men are allowed. Did NOT see a single non-Chinese there; and also nobody who speaks more than 2 words of english. You head up to the 2nd floor. BTW, perhaps thats the reason that the building says "Blossom Seasons Club", without the "international" part. There for sure is nothing international there, also the girls I saw (standing at the entrance in hotel like dresses) were all Chinese. (Can you know already choose the girl there or not at all!)

On the 2nd floor note immediatately that you want a first class girl ("number one girl"). I could not choose exactly which, and found no way to explain them. But anyways what they sent after saying "number one girl" was excellent. (I assume there are also other classes and prices for less pretty ones?)

A young Chinese girl, very nice skin, slim and sweet face.

It starts with a slow massage, very nice, after 30min it becomes a bit more erotic, and for me she started also giving a VERY sensual erotic massage which challenged my inhibition skills a lot. (after around 45min.) You pay 800 for 90min. Of course you will have a happy ending and the 90min appear to be respected sharp. So no stress once you arrive.

Yet I did not really figure out which (all?) girls would also have sex or even would get naked. I understood that my girl meant 1500- to have her be naked. But I did not get if this also includes 90min sex.

Can some insider clarify? . Guess thats not an insignificant information in the forum here!

Anyways, I did not even regret the 800- deal because it was soooo good, and she anyways was only wearing a short skirt and touching you with her body constantly. I of course also tried to touch her, she felt okay if I was very cautious. But resisted real kissing.

Again no idea what you are expected to do or not to do with the 800- package?

All in all my best experience also there was no intercourse and naked girls involved. It simply had class!

(BTW, the spa itself is already worth a couple of quiet, pampering hours: you can enjoy body scrub or sauna or water whirlpools there)

Cheers A.Originally Posted by Frankfurt [View Original Post]

So I land in Beijing and in absence of any intelligence about places to monger near my hotel, I ran into this guy's posting. Rather thesis on, The Blossom Spa. Here is my brief account of the night's proceedings. I was staying at Crowne Plaza Haidian which seem to be in the boonies. Anyhow I ask the bell boy to get a taxi to take me to Blossom Spa. I read such great things about the so called Sex on 2nd Floor that I had to check it out for myself. It was around 11PM now and no taxi driver had a F'and clue where this place was. The bell boy goes to the concierge and the smart guy prints a map. Now it's about midnight and taxis are hard to come by. Anyhow he goes out on the road in front of hotel and drags a taxi driver to take me to Blossom Spa. I slip a 50RMB to bell boy for job well done. Within 5-7 minutes of drive, I could see that taxis is in no man's land. I don't see street lights and no signs of tall buildings. Nothing. But the driver seemed to know where he was going. Fine. I said let's see. In 20 minutes or so, on the right side, in the middle of pretty much nowhere I see the big Blossom Spa. I could feel the excitement building and at the same time I was trying to look past the fact that there will be no F'and taxi around at 2AM when I would leave the place.

Anyhow, as suggested in the posting, I enter from the middle entrance. The lighting is low, girl in short skirt greeting. I could feel the momentum building until I (and as suggested by the poster) told them I want a room on 2nd floor. Dead silence. No one understood a word of English and am surrounded by 5-6 guys girls with walkie talkies. I said no problem. Said to them ni bu ming bai woh shoa sha ma? You don't understand what I say? And 5 heads nod in agreement. Fine. Pull out the smart phone and start typing on the translator app. Oh ok, now they understood. I even added, I am looking for a pretty miss. Hahahaa they say and next thing I know they want a 1000 RMB deposit. At this point the bell is ringing in my head. Deposit for what? Then the next thing they want is I'd. And I was like huh? I had left the hotel with enough for round trip taxi and for the girl. As the poster said that the damage was around 700RMB. Ok at this point the manager chimes in, talks in Mandarin to the lady at desk who was asking for my credentials. And next thing I know he hands me a key and asks for deposit. I said fine and gives him 1000 RMB and the desk lady gives me the receipt. At this point, I knew that this is no f'and ordinary 'spa' as I had been to many in China. Now the walkie talkies are going off and there walks a cute ass girl dressed in black and short skirt, walkie talkie in hand and says to me. This way please. Now my hopes are UP again and it's finally going to happen. We get to second floor and something doesn't look right. The second floor is JUST LIKE A NORMAL HOTEL! Before I could ask her anything she keys me in and starts to leave (nice room by the way) and I was like whoa lady hang on! I wouldn't go in next 15 minutes of back and forth smart phone translator app exchange but the punch line is and PAY ATTENTION GUYS:

1. 2nd Floor is no F'and sex floor. It is a NORMAL HOTEL that costs around 800 RMB a night! (Hence 1000RMB deposit)

2. You can get the girl which is OF COURSE extra money. Another 800 RMB.

So I stand there like a f'and idiot as to what the F am I doing here as I ALREADY have a room in Crowne Plaza and why should I pay almost 1600 RMB plus round trip taxi for a girl when I could have called a random outcall number from Craigslist. Not to brag but this is where my negotiation skills saved the day. I talked that cute ass girl to let me CHECK OUT at this minute and give me back my refund as I was totally misled into the whole thing. She starts her walkie talkie and next thing I hear from her OK OK and I was like PHEW!

Did it end there? N F W! Now it was after 1AM and not even donkey carts let alone taxi in sight. The cute ass girl to rescue again. Long story short, there she goes on her walkie talkie again and next thing I know hotel private car comes around. The driver has bad mutha fucka attitude. But her charm wins his hard ass. She says the driver will take me there. I was like that cute ass girl is heaven sent and if I could only pay her back with my hands, lips and jimmy! I shake her hand, slip her a 100 RMB and off we go. The driver asked for 40 which the girl had told me would be the cost.

I ended up with blue balls and a bad f'and taste in her mouth. If it weren't for the cute ass girl, this would have been the worse mongering expedition in China for me.

So there you have it. The skinny on Blossom Spa.

Haokool
10-08-12, 09:02
10-08-2012.

FYI. I was watching BTV last night, they were showing a report on a cracked down in BJ.

3 mamasan. 2 papasan were busted.

Over 50 girls busted in two apartments.

One Russian girl and a real good English speaking Chinese dud, not an ABC (busted with the Russian girl)

This ring was out of those little tiny cards they put by your door or give you in the street, usually showing a pretty face and half a dozen or less mobile numbers to call.

Haokool
10-08-12, 09:20
Short than a month ago!

As you know, one closest friend from the actual president has lost his son in a car crash.

Driving a Ferrari. 3 hookers inside, all naked, they crashed into a tunnel by fourth ring road (BJ)

Then, two weeks after the tragedy, the newly elected president (taking his seat next Oct. 2013) went missing for over 2 weeks.

This new president is old school, and will try to drive the country back to the chairman's ideology.

The regime is changing and about to change even further.

It's getting hot here, you better watch what you are doing, for and looking after a promotion, they will aim at you people!


Hey guys. Just wanted to give you a heads up. An expat friend of mine got grabbed by LE going into a apartment with a working girl and her ayi. Haven't heard any details beyond what local LE has divulged. He confessed, is getting deported, once his 15 days are complete. He may or may not be able to reapply for a visa. It wasn't a "sweep" of an entire KTV or massage place. It wasn't a sting exactly, but it sounds like LE had their eye on this particular apartment complex, and grabbed this group. He is getting out soon, but not sure if we will get a chance to see him before he gets sent home. This is not to throw cold water on anybodies fun. But especially right now, with the handover going on, just something to consider. LE doesn't even have to notify your embassy for four days. Then they typically let someone come check on you from your embassy. Having asked around the locals. It sounds like 15 days is pretty standard. Factor it in while weighing your risks vs. Rewards, as it can have pretty significant impact for some. Not just you, but possibly your family living here as well. FYI.

Faguoren
10-09-12, 03:51
Hi Faguoren,

Where is this favourite place of yours in Guomao? Can you share it with us? I am not too familiar with Beijing. I could not PM you since you are not a paid member. Thanks.

Funman13.Hi Funman13.

The favourite place of mine I mentioned is "Vera beauty". They are in "sun thirsty" apartment, on the south east corner of guomao, room 18o3. They present themselves as a legit massage and they even have a website.

They offer a very good "kidney" massage for 500 which is full body oil massage (a bit overpriced, I know) when using their "VIP" room (in fact they take you to another apartment than where there is the "official" business place.

If you take it, you can go ahead with higher levels of service as described here under. Take shower first, keep naked and lie down on the room's bed.

You will get a very good full body massage in a fully equipped bedroom. With a very nice HJ a the end.

If you tip the girl (up-sale to 800) , she will get naked and you can touch her everywhere you like (of course, level of touching will depend on the girl). You need to ask the girl to get "naked" when she starts massaging your sensitive areas. She will ask you to offer a price, they do not try to get more if you say 800).

I usually go with the girl No 6 and for the 800 package she even provide BBBJ (others do not for the same price). I tried 3 other of their girls, one allowed fingering. 1 other touching everywhere but no fingering, one only boobs touching whereas No 6 allows touching everywhere and fingering and she also provide FS if up-sale to 1000. Also you need to bring your own rubber.

The girls are ranging from 6 to a solid 8 (to my taste) , slim but not skinny and all speak a little English (No 6 speak enough to allow full understanding).

Hope this was not too long but I believe the place worth a try.

Faguoren
10-09-12, 04:08
Hi Faguoren,

Where is this favourite place of yours in Guomao? Can you share it with us? I am not too familiar with Beijing. I could not PM you since you are not a paid member. Thanks.

Funman13.Hi Funman13.

The favourite place of mine I mentioned is "Vera beauty". They are in "sun thirsty" apartment, on the south east corner of guomao, room 18o3. They present themselves as a legit massage and they even have a website.

They offer a very good "kidney" massage for 500 which is full body oil massage (a bit overpriced, I know) when using their "VIP" room (in fact they take you to another apartment than where there is the "official" business place.

If you take it, you can go ahead with higher levels of service as described here under. Take shower first, keep naked and lie down on the room's bed.

You will get a very good full body massage in a fully equipped bedroom. With a very nice HJ a the end.

If you tip the girl (up-sale to 800) , she will get naked and you can touch her everywhere you like (of course, level of touching will depend on the girl). You need to ask the girl to get "naked" when she starts massaging your sensitive areas. She will ask you to offer a price, they do not try to get more if you say 800).

I usually go with the girl No 6 and for the 800 package she even provide BBBJ (others do not for the same price). I tried 3 other of their girls, one allowed fingering. 1 other touching everywhere but no fingering, one only boobs touching whereas No 6 allows touching everywhere and fingering and she also provide FS if up-sale to 1000. Also you need to bring your own rubber.

The girls are ranging from 6 to a solid 8 (to my taste) , slim but not skinny and all speak a little English (No 6 speak enough to allow full understanding).

Hope this was not too long but I believe the place worth a try.

Faguoren
10-09-12, 04:10
Hi Faguoren,

Where is this favorite place of yours in Guomao? Can you share it with us? I am not too familiar with Beijing. I could not PM you since you are not a paid member. Thanks.

Funman13.Hi Funman13.

The favourite place of mine I mentioned is "Vera beauty". They are in "sun thirsty" apartment, on the south east corner of guomao, room 18o3. They present themselves as a legit massage and they even have a website.

They offer a very good "kidney" massage for 500 which is full body oil massage (a bit overpriced, I know) when using their "VIP" room (in fact they take you to another apartment than where there is the "official" business place.

If you take it, you can go ahead with higher levels of service as described here under. Take shower first, keep naked and lie down on the room's bed.

You will get a very good full body massage in a fully equipped bedroom. With a very nice HJ a the end.

If you tip the girl (up-sale to 800) , she will get naked and you can touch her everywhere you like (of course, level of touching will depend on the girl). You need to ask the girl to get "naked" when she starts massaging your sensitive areas. She will ask you to offer a price, they do not try to get more if you say 800).

I usually go with the girl No 6 and for the 800 package she even provide BBBJ (others do not for the same price). I tried 3 other of their girls, one allowed fingering. 1 other touching everywhere but no fingering, one only boobs touching whereas No 6 allows touching everywhere and fingering and she also provide FS if up-sale to 1000. Also you need to bring your own rubber.

The girls are ranging from 6 to a solid 8 (to my taste) , slim but not skinny and all speak a little English (No 6 speak enough to allow full understanding).

Hope this was not too long but I believe the place worth a try.

FunMan13
10-10-12, 08:44
Thanks Faguoren. I will be in BJ early next month. I hope I can find it. I do want FS so I have to get #6.

Faguoren
10-11-12, 03:12
Thanks Faguoren. I will be in BJ early next month. I hope I can find it. I do want FS so I have to get #6.This is an "edit" of my previous report.

Went for a massage at the place described before, I took the 800 package with No6 as I get a BBBJCIM (she knows me and like me) and am very happy with this service.

A few girls have changed, the average quality is lower than before (girls are now ranking from 4 to 7). No 6 is still there (I rank her 7) but her aunt was in town yesterday. You should calculate the 27 days moon cycle before visiting her early next month.

Seropi
10-11-12, 09:26
Found a new QQ contact yesterday just browsing through random Chinese sites. 1366975348. The picture in her QQ profile isn't her, or if it is, is a much younger version of her.

A bit older, probably mid to late 30s, a 5 or 6 in my opinion but very friendly personality. She has her own place above the Carrefour at Jiandemen on Line 10. Chatted with her in the morning, and arranged to meet in the afternoon. Her place is a small studio but clean, she offered me a bottled water and we sat down on the couch and chatted for a while.

Clothes came off about 10 mins later, good shape for an older woman, B-cups at best. BBBJ. 69 and multiple positions. Not shaven, but trimmed and fresh and clean, no smell at all which I usually worry about when it comes to older Chinese women. Finished in doggy and chatted some more before taking off.

500 for a pop, was there for almost an hour. Prefer to stick with the outcalls but was decent for something a little different. Will keep her contact if I'm ever in the area and feel like I need my pipes cleaned.

Chinese speaking and no English so you'll need to be able to communicate in Chinese.Could anyone provide QQ numbers of nice Beijing girls who can speak or communicate in english. It's impossible to find those numbers as I don't understand Chinese at all or is there some sites for QQ numbers in english. I'm using that international QQ, was it QQi. Is that the same thing?

HarveyDujardin
10-12-12, 01:58
Feel like trying a barbershop but don't want to travel to god knows where? Head over to xisi bei san tiao, there is a cluster of them. The places look quite clean (for a bbs) and the girls look quite good (for a bbs). I tried a girl, FS is on the menu but she was a bit of a starfish.

Crackdowns everywhere, and a whole string of new bbs's opens at a stone's throw from the presidents residence. Just when I thought I was starting to understand this country.

Ma Li Qiang
10-12-12, 16:49
Hello,

I have been viewing this forum for awhile and I've decided to make a first post due to an AWFUL experience last night and I hope no one has to experience this in the future. However, I will share a good one as well. I read some of the posting guidelines so if I break a rule or offend someone please let me know, it is not my intention.

I am pretty much a rookie at "mongering" and I've learned a lot from this forum such as reading Sammy's basic guide and such. Being in Beijing for 9 months now, I've just started the mongering business a couple months ago because I recently moved closer to the center of the city.

A good experience I had is a girl I found either from this forum or through links after links. Anyways online. Her name is XiaoSi (&23567; &24605. And I called her one night to hook up and she was very patient with me from the beginning to the end. I first talked to her in Chinese (I am ABC) which made her a little uneasy, I think, so I switched right away to English. It was an in-call and she gave the taxi driver directions to her place and I eventually found it after a few calls to her since my sense of direction is horrible. It's near Sanlitun village and when I first got to her room we just chit chatted for a bit and I took a quick shower. She took probably about 15-20 minutes giving a nice massage and it didn't feel rushed at all. This was around 1 or 2 AM and we were chatting the entire time. Xiaosi has a nice face, nice body and a great personality. She is very kind, gentle and pretty much asked what I wanted. We started with a tit job then a BJ and then various positions, I forget all the names of it. I gave her 1000 in the end but at first she asked for 1500. I think it was a bit much and talked her down to it. Here is her phone number 1-358-182-1577, you can just say James referred you for the same price and she told me that she has many other friends (around 10?) and that she is also down for "4 hands." It's all negotiable.

Now last night I wanted to look for some fun so I rode my bicycle around the neighborhood looking for a BBS. I first arrived at a place that said "SPA" and I saw a pretty woman going into it so I just made an assumption. When I first got in, I was greeted by an older woman and I saw another younger pretty woman in a short skirt with very tight shorts, which is a pretty good sign. The older woman gave me a list of "massages" they do and first took me into a room and the younger woman came and asked me what I wanted. I asked if she had any other services in Chinese but she didn't really answer me and just pointed at a 138 RMB massage and said this is the most popular one. I don't really know if there is a key word or phrase to let them know what I want and at the same time I felt a bit awkward if I asked a little too directly. Either way, I just took the offer because it looked promising. She took me to an unlit room next and closed all the windows and asked me to take off my clothes and put on these disposable shorts. I left my boxers on again because those disposable shorts weren't that secured and I think they were see through and once again I didn't know if we were on the same page, per say. Now we began the massage and she was really professional it felt like. It felt like those professional foot massages but she was dressed all sexy. She even pulled my shorts down a bit where my ass crack was showing and massaged all around my thighs, my butt cheek while lying down. Then she had me turn over where I'm facing up and massaged my inner thigh and chests. After about an hour though, I thought there was something wrong because it was way too professional and she just told me times up and didn't offer me anything else. Now this was really puzzling for me. Is this just a kind of massage where young hot girls give you a nice rub but don't do anything else? Or maybe I didn't ask for the right thing and they didn't offer anything because I look really young even though I'm 25. I was really confused and left with a disappointment.

However, I was still determined and knew of another place. I live in Sihui East (&22235; &24800; &19996. In a small community called Si li Pu (&21313; &37324; &22561. On Chaoyang Road. Now I strongly discourage anybody going to this BBS. This BBS is very visible and it's on Chaoyang Road going east. Around Si li Pu there is an "ItoYokado" (Japanese supermarket called Hua tong &21326; &22530; in Chinese, most taxi drivers know it) and it's maybe 500 M after passing this market. It's bright neon pink lights and you can see girls sitting at the front. I first went in and the mamasan very old asked me Bao Jian in Chinese? I'm not sure what it meant but she just lead me to a room. Then another girl came to me and asked me what I wanted. 300 RMB for "the pao?" and 400RMB for fulls service. Now from what I read, this sounded like a rip off because all over the forums and online I've been seeing that it should be 100RMB for HJ and 200-300 for everything. However, I didn't haggle because it was still cheaper than the previous services I've paid for such as the one I mentioned earlier. This girl was all about business. Her face was okay maybe 6/10 and her body looked alright in a dress and in the dark. When I got in the room she just started to take off her underwear and told me to take everything off. Then I lied down facing up and she started stroking my P right away while playing with my nipples. I got a little hard and then she took out a condom and had such a lot of problems putting it on. I think these Chinese condoms are all mini sizes or something. Anyways she gave me a BJ next and I got a little harder and then I went inside her. I was on top for a few minutes but I asked her for different positions and she wouldn't do it. She doesn't look as good now and she had 2 or 3 rolls on her stomach which was a turn off. She wouldn't do anything, just laid there like a plant making fake moans. Soon enough, I hear mamasan say "times up" or something in Chinese and it's been like 10 minutes. She told me hurry up but by this time I pretty much lost interest and wasn't even hard anymore. I told her, I wasn't aware of a time limit and she said of course there's a time limit. I told her you didn't indicate it in the beginning and she said the samething. She said most men just come in here and 5 or 6 minutes they will be done and said that how long do I expect? I just answered till I finish but she continued to make up reasons after reasons. Being unreasonable and illogical. I kept point out the fact she never mentioned a time prior and she says everyone knows there is a time limit. But I told her it's only been like 10 minutes and she didn't care. I told her just to finish the service please and she continued to stroke my penis. However, she just couldn't get it hard anymore after continuous arguments. She said mamasan is going to deduct her bill if I don't finish fast and just a bunch of BULLS*T. After another 5 or 10 minutes of attempting to get me hard, I just said forget it, I'll do it myself. So I pretty much masterbated in front of her while she just touched my different body parts and finished up. It was really disappointing and during the entire process it just felt like an argument. I guess this is a disadvantage for looking young and Chinese. Two busts in a night, is just horrible.

Anyways, it's a long post, sorry. If any more experienced members can give me advice such as if the prices were reasonable, what I should've done, ect, I will really appreciate it. If anyone has any additional questions about the girl XiaoSI I mentioned or where this BBS is please feel free to PM too. Lastly, does anyone know any other places around SiHui or Sihui Dong? I'm mainly looking for a cheaper way for the full package and don't prefer outcalls. If anyone is down to go hunting, I am up for it too! Hope this post helped.Thanks for the post. I contacted Xiao Si and can vouch for what you are saying here. I have met her two times now. Very hot. Very nice. Great english. Great sex.

Both times I met her during the day. I live and work here in BJ and so it is easier for me to meet during days during work sometimes.

FreebieFan
10-13-12, 11:52
Had a quiet begininng to life in BJ as the wife was with me. So stayed low and didn't contact anyone. After she departed, I perused various websites, started some chat with a few ladies and all is going well.

Found a Filipina who is a sure thing in two weeks (she's not allowed out till then ). Having had millions of Manila adventures I kind of know how to play Filipinas. She's ready to play when she gets free.

Been seeing one girl, who is 29, normal office type, very cute face and body. We were out drinking last night at 1. 30 am and I thought I had it nailed when taxi was heading towards my place. But it turns out her place is further down the road and no she really didn't want to go back with me. I think she added " this time: but maybe that was wishful thinking. She knows I'm a serial player but she shared all her past and current loves so were even.

Another one contacted me, telling me she was a tour guide. Told me her price but told me we could have kises instead of touring. We met for a " lets see what I might be geting " meeting. Nice long hair, happy smile, long legs, slim, . Very normal but worth it I felt. Agreed to meet this weekend.

Just back from 5 hours with her. What was good tho, was I told her my passport is with PSB for stamps etc. She said " you can come to my place " to save on hotel fees. Her place was in Guomao, she shares with another girl who was away. Nice apartment, very nicely funished. 5 hours of nice company, for TM 450. Seemed like a good deal to me. Was very happy. Tol me her room mate is away for another two weeks. Oh and she screamed like a dog in heat, thanks to a very prominent clit.

Tonight will go to a bar where I'm told the Filipinas tend to gather on a Saturday night. And the beat goes on.

(PS. With no relevance to this post. Jackson you do a great job. Was a tad drunk last night when I made my whingeing comments. Sorry Sir!)

Dan Diggler
10-13-12, 16:42
Short than a month ago!

As you know, one closest friend from the actual president has lost his son in a car crash.

Driving a Ferrari. 3 hookers inside, all naked, they crashed into a tunnel by fourth ring road (BJ)

Then, two weeks after the tragedy, the newly elected president (taking his seat next Oct. 2013) went missing for over 2 weeks.

This new president is old school, and will try to drive the country back to the chairman's ideology.

The regime is changing and about to change even further.

It's getting hot here, you better watch what you are doing, for and looking after a promotion, they will aim at you people!Classic. Haven't heard that. 3 hookers and slams in to a wall.

Watching an interesting take on the Chongqing drama from outside of the Country. Sounds like he might have been doing exactly as you said. Taking the Chongqing area back to an older era, unfortunately got too hot for central to handle. So off with the head. Interesting times. But it does pay to fly out and look from outside in. Or down south or out west for a few weeks, as it changes the way you think about things. Its such a god dam big place with so many things going on at the moment.

But its business as normal in the working men's lives and that's how they want to keep it. Its an age old pro-fession. Regimes come and go. But a little paid for satisfaction is always going to be around. Its just finding it as it goes underground during the hot times.

Lestatian69
10-14-12, 06:40
Hi FreebieFan!

In which websites have you been to? Thanks!


Had a quiet begininng to life in BJ as the wife was with me. So stayed low and didn't contact anyone. After she departed, I perused various websites, started some chat with a few ladies and all is going well.

Found a Filipina who is a sure thing in two weeks (she's not allowed out till then ). Having had millions of Manila adventures I kind of know how to play Filipinas. She's ready to play when she gets free.

Been seeing one girl, who is 29, normal office type, very cute face and body. We were out drinking last night at 1. 30 am and I thought I had it nailed when taxi was heading towards my place. But it turns out her place is further down the road and no she really didn't want to go back with me. I think she added " this time: but maybe that was wishful thinking. She knows I'm a serial player but she shared all her past and current loves so were even.

Another one contacted me, telling me she was a tour guide. Told me her price but told me we could have kises instead of touring. We met for a " lets see what I might be geting " meeting. Nice long hair, happy smile, long legs, slim, . Very normal but worth it I felt. Agreed to meet this weekend.

Just back from 5 hours with her. What was good tho, was I told her my passport is with PSB for stamps etc. She said " you can come to my place " to save on hotel fees. Her place was in Guomao, she shares with another girl who was away. Nice apartment, very nicely funished. 5 hours of nice company, for TM 450. Seemed like a good deal to me. Was very happy. Tol me her room mate is away for another two weeks. Oh and she screamed like a dog in heat, thanks to a very prominent clit.

Tonight will go to a bar where I'm told the Filipinas tend to gather on a Saturday night. And the beat goes on.

(PS. With no relevance to this post. Jackson you do a great job. Was a tad drunk last night when I made my whingeing comments. Sorry Sir!)

Split
10-14-12, 14:18
did your celine have a unique looking somewhat flattened smile with upper gums easily shown? i had celine (i'll bring a report soon) recently. she seems to match your description, but this girl was a healthy squirter.


had some spare time and did outcall service with fiona (great responsiveness from her). got celine.

not going to go too much into details but will give quick review of the girl for others to get a good idea what to expect.

showed up pretty promptly, no issues getting into hotel. chose the 1 hr service. started with a pretty good friendly attitude. can speak ok english, you'll be able to communicate fine but don't expect to debate the finer points of life.

she has very good body (8/10) but it doesn't really match the picture on the website. that picture is head cropped so can't really say much but it just doesn't look the same. no issue however as she has a nice small slim body. she's not that petite / short. small boobs, b size is my guess, you can grab a hold but don't expect much. the face is ok to good, definitely not great but cute enough. give 6/10. relatively young (22) and definitely not pass her prime yet.

didn't get particularly wet but was fine to go in. she does give pretty good bbbj, much more active and energetic than expected. she prided herself a bit on it though she can't do it for that long.

she said she cums pretty quickly and easily and would have to agree with that as didn't take too much. she did look at the clock a bit too much and had a bad habit of texting at various points. she didn't jump out and leave immediately when over but did insist on the 1 hr, said she told her bf she was out to dinner for an hour and needed to be back soon.

her attitude got a bit peevish and annoying at the end so wasn't sad to see her leave at the end. note she also acts pretty clean about things (insisting on cleaning up certain things before she goes for it) which to me is good.

overall cost. 1100+tip. overall experience 6. 5/10. not bad but definitely a bit pricey for it. definitely a good body and decent face. i had an so so experience with angel at 600 so wanted to try something a bit higher price. it was better but questionably 2x better.

well anyway, now you know.

FreebieFan
10-14-12, 14:42
Ok, my reports haven't and will never have anything to do with Maggies or Judys or any of the other paid providers. That not really my thing. So if its info on the paid scene, can't help you.

The day started well with the girl I've had two dates with sending me a text stating that she would like to accompany me on my HK business trips if she could. Smart girl who is very nicely proportioned. We will see where this goes. Have a date with her tomorrow, tho wife will appear later in week so the dates will temporarily stop.

In afternoon I met a girl who I'd been chatting with on a website. She told me she had broken heart due to ex bf leaving. I told her I could cheer her up. She said " go ahead and try". We met in Sanlitun, and I can always tell things will go well, if the girl I'm meeting walks really close to me so we have lots of innocent touching. This was exactly what happened. Within 5 minutes were holding hands (yeah its not supposed to be a Mills and Boon post I know.!). Anyways we had coffee then headed to Cold stone creamery, where we are standing by the counter and she runs her hand over my ass. Interesting.

We take a walk near the river where embassies are, and I figured if she's grabbing my ass I will do some grabbing too. Nice body. Hope the embassy security guards liked the view. She then started talking about lingerie. Meanwhile I'm thinking, darn, I can't take her to my place (too many work colleagues there) and I have no passport with me yet. Anyways we took a break and will repeat the date on Tuesday where we agreed will visit a hotel for my first Beijing freebie.

So all in all a good weekend.

FreebieFan
10-15-12, 05:31
Hi FreebieFan!

In which websites have you been to? Thanks!I used to be asked this question a lot in my last country. Realistically ther are many many many sites and I jsut work my way thru them all to find out which ones work best depending on which country I'm in. Its really a trial and error and theres no one site that works better than another. Got to get out there, get chatting and see what happens.

Maxxxi
10-15-12, 14:03
Another one contacted me, telling me she was a tour guide. Told me her price but told me we could have kises instead of touring. We met for a " lets see what I might be geting " meeting. Nice long hair, happy smile, long legs, slim, . Very normal but worth it I felt. Agreed to meet this weekend.

Just back from 5 hours with her. What was good tho, was I told her my passport is with PSB for stamps etc. She said " you can come to my place " to save on hotel fees. Her place was in Guomao, she shares with another girl who was away. Nice apartment, very nicely funished. 5 hours of nice company, for TM 450. Seemed like a good deal to me. Was very happy. Tol me her room mate is away for another two weeks. Oh and she screamed like a dog in heat, thanks to a very prominent clit.Hi FreebieFan,

I'm into freebies too, coming to BJ tomorrow. I've been preparing my stay there with QQ, The Beijinger, etc, so I ran into a girl, named Selina, who was desperately trying to share her "luxury apartment" in Guomao, she even invited me to stay at her's if I hadn't paid my hotel yet. Of course I refused, but I'm still in contact with her and I wonder if she's the same one you are talking about.

I'm staying until oct. 26 so if you like to share the hunting experience please let me know!

Hey FreebieFan, is this girl named Selina?

FreebieFan
10-16-12, 00:53
Hi FreebieFan,

I'm into freebies too, coming to BJ tomorrow. I've been preparing my stay there with QQ, The Beijinger, etc, so I ran into a girl, named Selina, who was desperately trying to share her "luxury apartment" in Guomao, she even invited me to stay at her's if I hadn't paid my hotel yet. Of course I refused, but I'm still in contact with her and I wonder if she's the same one you are talking about.

I'm staying until oct. 26 so if you like to share the hunting experience please let me know!

Hey FreebieFan, is this girl named Selina?Nope, none of mine are called Selina. And I now have 4 in various stages of play. But no, definately not Selina.

Sammy_T
10-16-12, 07:25
Brothers.

Just want to pass the word that the Hard Rock has been closed down:

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/737600.shtml

In recent years it was never really busy, and most of the girls were old, but the band was OK.

Happy Hunting!

Sammy

Maxxxi
10-16-12, 08:52
Hi guys,

As I said in my last post,


I've been preparing my stay there with QQ, The Beijinger, etc, so I ran into a girl, named Selina, who was desperately trying to share her "luxury apartment" in Guomao, she even invited me to stay at her's if I hadn't paid my hotel yet. Of course I refused, but I'm still in contact with herI've got a family back home, so I probably entered Paranoid Mode, but I'm scared about scams or even getting blackmailed while I'm trying to have fun.

This is the story:

In her classified on the Beijinger she was "exploring my life and know more people". When I replied, she went like "I'm looking for people living here, not for sex". Then I told her some crap about me coming many times to BJ, and she turned very nice and willing to meet me. Then she asked me if I wanted to stay at her place because she badly needed a roommate for her "luxury apartment". I refused, but now she's anyway looking forward to meet me, saying she loves cooking and doing massage, yoga and stuff. Note that she hasn't even seen a pic of me!

What do you experienced guys think about this?

Would you go to her place, or rather take her to your hotel? Can it happen that girls manage to get your real address from the hotel reception once you're gone? I'd like to try her, of course, but I've got 4 or 5 more gals I'd like to go out with that seem more "normal", plus for sure want to try some saunas and bars like Maggie's, so I don't want her to be too much obsessive once I've had her.

FreebieFan
10-16-12, 14:28
Ok so tonight I meet the girl I dated in Sunday and we agreed to go to a hotel.

Met, bought some wine and found a nice cheap Chinese inn. All was going well. Girl had some discussion with desk clerk, who said I couldn't stay past 11. That was fine with me. It was only going to be a 2 hour session. Girl used her I'd as my passort is with labour bureau for permit stamp etc.

Get to room, have some wine, I get to fondle some quite nicely supersized breasts, when the phone rings.

Its Front Desk clerk. She's just been told by her boss that I have to register right now.

WE ignore it, phone again, I really really really MUST REGISTER right now.

So there we are, girl has registered, I'm just a visitor but " the foreigner must register or leave ".

I tell them I go down in 15 minutes to do this. They say ok.

During that time, girl starts to blow me, its all going great.

Followed. 10 mins later. By a lot of knocking on door, and two security guards and front desk clerk, at door.

Explain I don't have my passport, but here is my I'd from another Chinese speaking country. Not acceptable,"bu shing" etcetc.

Go downstairs, give the front desk clerk half a bottle of the wine that was left, tell her she ruined a good fuck and we left.

AS the title says, it would be sad if it wasnt funny. I've been around enough countries to know that not everything always goes to plan. Will have I'd by next week.

Meanwhile I have some nice videos of me and a Filipina that will be tonights viewing material in place of Ms Big Tits.

UnoMas
10-17-12, 11:08
Hi guys,

I'm very new to this pursuit, and I don't go out except on very special occasions, so I'd like to make sure it counts. So my question is, where do I go to find stellar jaw dropping 10s? I'd prefer to get it all done in one place, I. E. Incall. I'm obviously willing to drop a bit more dough. Any suggestions on some good spots?

Seekingals
10-17-12, 16:46
Ok so tonight I meet the girl I dated in Sunday and we agreed to go to a hotel.

Met, bought some wine and found a nice cheap Chinese inn. All was going well. Girl had some discussion with desk clerk, who said I couldn't stay past 11. That was fine with me. It was only going to be a 2 hour session. Girl used her I'd as my passort is with labour bureau for permit stamp etc.

Get to room, have some wine, I get to fondle some quite nicely supersized breasts, when the phone rings.

Its Front Desk clerk. She's just been told by her boss that I have to register right now.

WE ignore it, phone again, I really really really MUST REGISTER right now.

So there we are, girl has registered, I'm just a visitor but " the foreigner must register or leave ".

I tell them I go down in 15 minutes to do this. They say ok.

During that time, girl starts to blow me, its all going great.

Followed. 10 mins later. By a lot of knocking on door, and two security guards and front desk clerk, at door.

Explain I don't have my passport, but here is my I'd from another Chinese speaking country. Not acceptable,"bu shing" etcetc.

Go downstairs, give the front desk clerk half a bottle of the wine that was left, tell her she ruined a good fuck and we left.

AS the title says, it would be sad if it wasnt funny. I've been around enough countries to know that not everything always goes to plan. Will have I'd by next week.

Meanwhile I have some nice videos of me and a Filipina that will be tonights viewing material in place of Ms Big Tits.Let your girl check in alone with her I'd, after a while you walk in to room directly. Maybe it works.

Seekingals
10-17-12, 17:02
Hi guys,

As I said in my last post,

I've got a family back home, so I probably entered Paranoid Mode, but I'm scared about scams or even getting blackmailed while I'm trying to have fun.

This is the story:

In her classified on the Beijinger she was "exploring my life and know more people". When I replied, she went like "I'm looking for people living here, not for sex". Then I told her some crap about me coming many times to BJ, and she turned very nice and willing to meet me. Then she asked me if I wanted to stay at her place because she badly needed a roommate for her "luxury apartment". I refused, but now she's anyway looking forward to meet me, saying she loves cooking and doing massage, yoga and stuff. Note that she hasn't even seen a pic of me!

What do you experienced guys think about this?

Would you go to her place, or rather take her to your hotel? Can it happen that girls manage to get your real address from the hotel reception once you're gone? I'd like to try her, of course, but I've got 4 or 5 more gals I'd like to go out with that seem more "normal", plus for sure want to try some saunas and bars like Maggie's, so I don't want her to be too much obsessive once I've had her.I suggest you to have her in your hotel for safety. It's almost impossible for her to get your real address or other information from hotel reception. No worry please.

Seekingals

Waldeck2
10-18-12, 03:08
This works in Shanghai at 168 hotels that have short time rooms. The rooms are not always available. She may have to come down to pick you up in the lobby if the elevator is carded.


Let your girl check in alone with her I'd, after a while you walk in to room directly. Maybe it works.

FunMan13
10-18-12, 08:42
Hi,

I am visiting Beijing in early November for about 5 days, then I am off to Shanghai, Suzhou and Hangzhou before returning to USA. When in Beijing, I would like to buy a good Chinese clone I-phone (the latest model if possible) or a good Galaxy clone with dual SIM cards. I travel a lot in Asia so a good phone will be handy.

Can anyone tell me where to buy it? How much should I pay? You can PM me if you prefer confidentiality. Thank you very much for your help.

Gao Xing
10-18-12, 08:55
Hi guys, where do I go to find stellar jaw dropping 10s?Have you read anything in this forum? Anything at all?

Gao Xing
10-18-12, 09:01
Ok, my reports haven't and will never have anything to do with Maggies or Judys or any of the other paid providers. That not really my thing. So if its info on the paid scene, can't help you.With all due respect, then why are you posting here? This forum is to share useful information, not brag about ones civvie exploits.

FunMan13
10-18-12, 09:06
FreebieFan,

If you produced a photocopy of your passport, would that have satisfied the hotel?

Can you tell us where is this bar that Filipinas hang out? You can PM me if you prefer. I will visit Beijing in early November. Thanks.

UnoMas
10-18-12, 09:13
Have you read anything in this forum? Anything at all?Perhaps not enough. I've skimmed through the last year's worth of posts, and it seems that most people are serial mongers more focused on cost. Also, with places opening and closing and the situation always changing, posts from a year ago might not be relevant anymore.

I'm just wondering if there are any MPs or such that cater to the the Ge's that want the best and cash isn't the first concern.

HarveyDujardin
10-18-12, 11:09
I have been to this place twice and have had a pretty good experience both times. 400 for a pop, BBBJ a 100 upsell. 86rmb massage. Multiple positions has not been a problem, and one of the girls was quite responsive to DATY (can't fake that.). I do tend to go earlier in the day, maybe they are not as hurried then. Oh, and absolutely no English is spoken so be prepared to be laughed at!


Thanks for this report.

Also I am an old Beijinger, this is only my second report as I think it is worthwhile giving reports only when there is added value.

My first one was about an apartment massage place on south east corner of guomao which is my favourite place and where the service is (I think) of very high value for money.

I tried the place mentioned in the report I quote above and I found the service is just ok value for money, too much rushed for my taste. I went there in day time in an afternoon and I was a bit horny also.

The place is in a basement.

The price was 600 for 1 pop. They also offered another service for 800 but I did not get what it was. Anyway. 1 pop was good enough for me.

They first came with a girl which I would give 4/10 (and I am generous). When I asked to see another girl, the one who came was a solid 7/10 and much more to my taste. Nice breast (a good B+) and a nice body. Not too skinny, not fat either, just the way I like them.

They first take you to a locker room and give you pyjamas (you can take a shower there). Then you are led to a room (which I found quite smelly and not so clean)

The girl asked me to get naked and she went naked straight a way as well. She gave me a very short BBBJ just to get me hard enough to put on the condom and then fuck direct in missionary. No other position available.

I finished quite fast as I was very horny and the girl was pretty much to my taste, so not much to complain as I had what I came for.

However, and to be fair, I think the place and service do no worth more than 5 to 6/10.

This is it so far.

Tors Ham
10-18-12, 20:20
Hi,

Need a little help

I am not that familiar with the BJ scene and after RTFF I find a lot about Angels and escort service. Clubs like Maggies, and? What happen with them, are they all a bad option nowadays or are there other clubs that taken over as top spots to hunt. I ask because I know how fast things changes and 1 year old info in this country can be useless. I will only do a short stop, a couple of days and the plan was to go out on a club hunt and book a hotel close by the best option. Whatever that is, or is escort / massage at the hotel the best option in BJ. Spa / sauna I will get enough of in other places that don't have the bar / club scene like I think BJ have. The question is what's hot at the moment, I need to start book up things soon. And Russians, Mongolians, Chinese. Potato potato, as long as they look god and perform the horizontal tango god, for a price.

Thanks for any help I can get.

Cheers

FreebieFan
10-19-12, 02:37
With all due respect, then why are you posting here? This forum is to share useful information, not brag about ones civvie exploits.With more due respect, take a look at all my post and exploits from various other countries.

I don't read that its "The International sex guide that is and only for paid sex specifically excluding reports about freebies or sex obtained in an other than paid environment "

Perhaps you could ask Jackson to clarifiy.

Lets just say with the amount of reports that I have posted I have more than paid my dues.

Lets also say that I've met a fair number of folk through ISG that seem to have enjoyed my reports, who I've met and become good mates with.

Lets also say that a report of " Went to maggies on xyz street, paid RMB abc, had sex then went home" isn't going to have much of a future as a website.

Live a little, relax and enjoy and share as I do. You will get more out the forum this way.

FreebieFan
10-19-12, 02:54
With all due respect, then why are you posting here? This forum is to share useful information, not brag about ones civvie exploits.Pots and kettles Sir. I see you have posted an address of a bar in Dubai where you went, and have aslo asked several other board member why they are posting here. Take a look in the mirror of your own posts. You arent exactly an encyclopedia of shared knowledge yourself. You make a few comments on other peoples posts but don't post much about details yourself. Yes I've read yours about Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Dubai and BKK.

Lighten up and enjoy the with, repartee and banter thats makes this board enjoyable.

Gualtier Malde
10-19-12, 04:51
Let your girl check in alone with her I'd, after a while you walk in to room directly. Maybe it works.I almost always do it this way, even if I have my passport. Just let the girl do it, no mention of you at all. Have her text you the room number, and ideally, have her leave the door open slightly. You don't even need to be present yet. Hang around outside somewhere if it makes you more comfortable. When you get the room number by text, just walk in, don't even make eye contact with the clerks, go straight to the elevator like you belong there. For all they know you checked in before they came on duty, they won't bother you. If she has left the door open, you can walk in as if it is your room. The security guy, if he is awake and looking at the video for your hallway, will have no suspicions at all.

If you worry about getting your face on video (I'm not, but I have friends who are) wear a baseball cap and keep your head down. (I don't do that because I think it attracts attention, but be your own judge.)

HomeInn has a 100 RMB short term rate (somewhere between 2 and 4 hours, I forget). You also have to leave a 100RMB key deposit which is returned. Just tell the girl you will pay her back, but if she doesn't trust you, just cough up the 200 before she goes in.

Green Tree Inn has a similar deal (may be a little bit more expensive, but not much). In my experience, their rooms are a bit better than HomeInn, but both are acceptable.

Neither have ever given a problem to the girl checking in by herself.

GM.

Erasmus B Dragin
10-19-12, 13:39
I've always done it the opposite way: I check in, text her the room no, leave the door cracked, etc. Never had a problem and I've been doing it for years. Many people use short time for a rest, shower, etc. It's also used as an extension, ie for late check out. Having a record of checking into a (m) h) otel short time is not implicit of prurient pursuits. Nor do I bother hiding my face from security cameras.

It's worth noting that the short time rate is available at most locations of ALL of the discount chains: Home Inn, Jinjiang. 168, Green Tree. 7 Days, Super 8, etc. Indeed, I've stayed short time at 3-4 star hotels. It's always for 3 or 4 hours. Some will have short time posted with the other rates behind the front desk, but for most you have to ask.

Another option is to go for a "couple's massage" at Dragonfly, Long Island, etc. They all have rooms for this; you get a massage together (2 massage tables. 2 masseuses) then the masseuses leave you alone to shower together, etc. I've stayed for 2 hours post-massage. You can bring your own champagne and there is nothing like a sensual oil massage to set the mood for subsequent activities.

Still another option I learned from a local g / f and have used (albeit only twice) is getting a private room in a tea house. The ones I've visited had sofas that were quite comfy. Once the waitress had served the tea she excused herself and made a point of announcing that she would leave us to ourselves until we called her. This is a popular option for local couples looking for a little privacy. No shower available, of course, so you'd both better be well bathed beforehand LOL!


I almost always do it this way, even if I have my passport. Just let the girl do it, no mention of you at all. Have her text you the room number, and ideally, have her leave the door open slightly. You don't even need to be present yet. Hang around outside somewhere if it makes you more comfortable. When you get the room number by text, just walk in, don't even make eye contact with the clerks, go straight to the elevator like you belong there. For all they know you checked in before they came on duty, they won't bother you. If she has left the door open, you can walk in as if it is your room. The security guy, if he is awake and looking at the video for your hallway, will have no suspicions at all.

If you worry about getting your face on video (I'm not, but I have friends who are) wear a baseball cap and keep your head down. (I don't do that because I think it attracts attention, but be your own judge.)

HomeInn has a 100 RMB short term rate (somewhere between 2 and 4 hours, I forget). You also have to leave a 100RMB key deposit which is returned. Just tell the girl you will pay her back, but if she doesn't trust you, just cough up the 200 before she goes in.

Green Tree Inn has a similar deal (may be a little bit more expensive, but not much). In my experience, their rooms are a bit better than HomeInn, but both are acceptable.

Neither have ever given a problem to the girl checking in by herself.

GM.

UnoMas
10-19-12, 17:56
Have you read anything in this forum? Anything at all?Again, thanks for the "warm" welcome. So I went ahead and carefully read the last 100 pages of this forum. Regarding finding incall stunners (9s and 10s) , all I could find were some people who cut and pasted a list of saunas from the outdated beijing nightlife guide website.

So are you going to be helpful at all or just grief people for no reason?

If anyone else is willing to lend a friendly hand, I'm subscribed so you can send a PM. Thank you!

FreebieFan
10-20-12, 03:01
Again, thanks for the "warm" welcome. So I went ahead and carefully read the last 100 pages of this forum. Regarding finding incall stunners (9s and 10s) , all I could find were some people who cut and pasted a list of saunas from the outdated beijing nightlife guide website.

So are you going to be helpful at all or just grief people for no reason?

If anyone else is willing to lend a friendly hand, I'm subscribed so you can send a PM. Thank you!Hi,

I think you will find there a good number of decent folk here in Beijing, and as always, a few sad folk who think they know everything, inlcuding the right to define how this board is run and what can and can't be posted on it.

Clearly the guy who gave you a "warm welcome" is one of those. He had a pop at me too. Ignore the sad ones. Theres plenty of real folk out there / here who will lend a hand to a brother seeking help.

FreebieFan
10-20-12, 03:02
Another option is to go for a "couple's massage" at Dragonfly, Long Island, etc. They all have rooms for this; you get a massage together (2 massage tables. 2 masseuses) then the masseuses leave you alone to shower together, etc. I've stayed for 2 hours post-massage. You can bring your own champagne and there is nothing like a sensual oil massage to set the mood for subsequent activities.

Still another option I learned from a local g / f and have used (albeit only twice) is getting a private room in a tea house. The ones I've visited had sofas that were quite comfy. Once the waitress had served the tea she excused herself and made a point of announcing that she would leave us to ourselves until we called her. This is a popular option for local couples looking for a little privacy. No shower available, of course, so you'd both better be well bathed beforehand LOL!I've done the Tea house thing before in Shanghai, but not the mixed sauna. I have one lady currently on the boil who I think might like that! Will have to give it a try. Thanks for the good info!

ChinBro
10-20-12, 05:05
With more due respect, take a look at all my post and exploits from various other countries.

I don't read that its "The International sex guide that is and only for paid sex specifically excluding reports about freebies or sex obtained in an other than paid environment "

Perhaps you could ask Jackson to clarifiy.

Lets just say with the amount of reports that I have posted I have more than paid my dues.

Lets also say that I've met a fair number of folk through ISG that seem to have enjoyed my reports, who I've met and become good mates with.

Lets also say that a report of " Went to maggies on xyz street, paid RMB abc, had sex then went home" isn't going to have much of a future as a website.

Live a little, relax and enjoy and share as I do. You will get more out the forum this way.Your name tells us everything. Personally, I need and like your reports about freebies and other than paid sex. Any nice experience to share of WeChat or MoMo?

ChinBro

FreebieFan
10-20-12, 08:55
Your name tells us everything. Personally, I need and like your reports about freebies and other than paid sex. Any nice experience to share of WeChat or MoMo?

ChinBroAm just getting myself started here (have a few QQ friends) so far and a few from other sites. Haven't got to WeChat yet as problem of keeping my phone away from prying eyes. But Freebie will find waysd. He always does. So far I've had two ladies, one paid and one free. New job and new in town so the slow start is expected. But I'm getting there.

Seekingals
10-20-12, 16:53
I almost always do it this way, even if I have my passport. Just let the girl do it, no mention of you at all. Have her text you the room number, and ideally, have her leave the door open slightly. You don't even need to be present yet. Hang around outside somewhere if it makes you more comfortable. When you get the room number by text, just walk in, don't even make eye contact with the clerks, go straight to the elevator like you belong there. For all they know you checked in before they came on duty, they won't bother you. If she has left the door open, you can walk in as if it is your room. The security guy, if he is awake and looking at the video for your hallway, will have no suspicions at all.

If you worry about getting your face on video (I'm not, but I have friends who are) wear a baseball cap and keep your head down. (I don't do that because I think it attracts attention, but be your own judge.)

HomeInn has a 100 RMB short term rate (somewhere between 2 and 4 hours, I forget). You also have to leave a 100RMB key deposit which is returned. Just tell the girl you will pay her back, but if she doesn't trust you, just cough up the 200 before she goes in.

Green Tree Inn has a similar deal (may be a little bit more expensive, but not much). In my experience, their rooms are a bit better than HomeInn, but both are acceptable.

Neither have ever given a problem to the girl checking in by herself.

GM.To me, it almost always works as well.


I've always done it the opposite way: I check in, text her the room no, leave the door cracked, etc. Never had a problem and I've been doing it for years. Many people use short time for a rest, shower, etc. It's also used as an extension, ie for late check out. Having a record of checking into a (m) h) otel short time is not implicit of prurient pursuits. Nor do I bother hiding my face from security cameras.

It's worth noting that the short time rate is available at most locations of ALL of the discount chains: Home Inn, Jinjiang. 168, Green Tree. 7 Days, Super 8, etc. Indeed, I've stayed short time at 3-4 star hotels. It's always for 3 or 4 hours. Some will have short time posted with the other rates behind the front desk, but for most you have to ask.

Another option is to go for a "couple's massage" at Dragonfly, Long Island, etc. They all have rooms for this; you get a massage together (2 massage tables. 2 masseuses) then the masseuses leave you alone to shower together, etc. I've stayed for 2 hours post-massage. You can bring your own champagne and there is nothing like a sensual oil massage to set the mood for subsequent activities.

Still another option I learned from a local g / f and have used (albeit only twice) is getting a private room in a tea house. The ones I've visited had sofas that were quite comfy. Once the waitress had served the tea she excused herself and made a point of announcing that she would leave us to ourselves until we called her. This is a popular option for local couples looking for a little privacy. No shower available, of course, so you'd both better be well bathed beforehand LOL!The second and third option sound interesting.

ChinBro
10-21-12, 05:31
Am just getting myself started here (have a few QQ friends) so far and a few from other sites. Haven't got to WeChat yet as problem of keeping my phone away from prying eyes. But Freebie will find waysd. He always does. So far I've had two ladies, one paid and one free. New job and new in town so the slow start is expected. But I'm getting there.You did get a good start, and you'll be getting successful too just like you did in other countries, I have no doubt. By the way, if you know some Chinese, MoMo will be a wonderful App, for I've got a number of threads and freebies so far from there.

Beijing Fox
10-21-12, 13:16
Another one bites the dust. .

I was there a lot before the Olympics.

Had a wide range of talents.

It never got back after the Olympics.


Brothers.

Just want to pass the word that the Hard Rock has been closed down:

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/737600.shtml

In recent years it was never really busy, and most of the girls were old, but the band was OK.

Happy Hunting!

Sammy

FunMan13
10-22-12, 05:01
UnoMas,

If you have read the last 100 pages, you have accumulated enough info to get going. I read about 30-50 pages every time I travel to a new city or one that I visited at least 1 or 2 years ago. Now, you are not going to get easy tips like "go to abc club, def MP or ghi brothel, get "annie", pay jkl yuan". It's not so direct. Personally I think this is good because our hobby is protected, especially from LE. Don't forget, this is China, our hobby is illegal. Moreover, going out for the "hunt" is part of the adventure.

If you are looking for straight-forward info, you should look into Indonesia, the Philippines, Singapore or Thailand. I go there quite often. Good luck.

Funman.


Again, thanks for the "warm" welcome. So I went ahead and carefully read the last 100 pages of this forum. Regarding finding incall stunners (9s and 10s) , all I could find were some people who cut and pasted a list of saunas from the outdated beijing nightlife guide website.

So are you going to be helpful at all or just grief people for no reason?

If anyone else is willing to lend a friendly hand, I'm subscribed so you can send a PM. Thank you!

Gualtier Malde
10-22-12, 05:28
Still another option I learned from a local g / f and have used (albeit only twice) is getting a private room in a tea house. The ones I've visited had sofas that were quite comfy. Once the waitress had served the tea she excused herself and made a point of announcing that she would leave us to ourselves until we called her. This is a popular option for local couples looking for a little privacy. No shower available, of course, so you'd both better be well bathed beforehand LOL!This is interesting. I've never been in a tea house. Do they charge you for the room? There is one near my office, and also happens to be near a freebie I'm working on. This could be a very good option since taking her to a hotel the first time isn't the best approach for this particular woman.

I'll definitely check out this option, and report if it works out.

GM.

UnoMas
10-22-12, 14:39
UnoMas,

If you have read the last 100 pages, you have accumulated enough info to get going. I read about 30-50 pages every time I travel to a new city or one that I visited at least 1 or 2 years ago. Now, you are not going to get easy tips like "go to abc club, def MP or ghi brothel, get "annie", pay jkl yuan". It's not so direct. Personally I think this is good because our hobby is protected, especially from LE. Don't forget, this is China, our hobby is illegal. Moreover, going out for the "hunt" is part of the adventure.

If you are looking for straight-forward info, you should look into Indonesia, the Philippines, Singapore or Thailand. I go there quite often. Good luck.

Funman.Fair enough. I'm new to this, so I don't yet know what the parameters are.

Thanks for the reality check.

UnoMas
10-22-12, 14:44
So I started using WeChat and I'm actually getting several girls contacting me instead of only the other way around. Quite nice. Anyway I contacted this hottie, but she was quite short with her replies, and after two messages directly named her price before I even realized she was a WG.

600 one time. 300 upfront.

So I then asked her where to meet, and she gave me her address, in a mid-range apartment complex.

I've read that upfront payment is a bad sign, so I asked her about this, and she said she'd been tricked before which is why she takes a part upfront.

Does the upfront fee and directly inviting me to her apartment ring any alarm bells with you all, or is this standard practice?

UnoMas

Charm City Dave
10-23-12, 02:51
Will be spending 4 nights in Beijing before heading to the land of smiles. Will be saving the wild times for Pattaya, but seems I should get one experience in while there. Will be staying at the Marriott and would like the best option for getting a visitor. Since I'm only going to be that way once, willing to pay a premium to get top quaility. PM is that is helpful. Thanks in advance!

ChinBro
10-23-12, 03:46
So I started using WeChat and I'm actually getting several girls contacting me instead of only the other way around. Quite nice. Anyway I contacted this hottie, but she was quite short with her replies, and after two messages directly named her price before I even realized she was a WG.

600 one time. 300 upfront.

So I then asked her where to meet, and she gave me her address, in a mid-range apartment complex.

I've read that upfront payment is a bad sign, so I asked her about this, and she said she'd been tricked before which is why she takes a part upfront.

Does the upfront fee and directly inviting me to her apartment ring any alarm bells with you all, or is this standard practice?

UnoMasUnoMas,

Usually the pictures of this hottie were fake. And I suggest you not to pay upfront. Keep chatting with her to see how it goes.

ChinBro

FreebieFan
10-23-12, 05:10
Anyone have any info about what I think is the KTV operation there. Yu Yang is near Dongzhimenwai.

Was near there the other night and wandered down to their basement. Lots of very pretty ladies in nice short skirts etc. If anyone knows whether its worth researching this further please do let me know.

FreebieFan
10-23-12, 08:50
Ok, so I'm new to Beijing but not new to what girls will do, and was very familiar with the Nanjing road scams in Shanghai.

Chatted on QQ with some girl who duly sent me nice pics of herself. Chat was nice and friendly. Checked out her pics on tinyeye. Com and it didn't show they were copied from somewhere.

Anyways we arranged to meet at Soho project near Central Plaza / Place. Not far from my office so didn't lose much time.

We met and she's with her friend who speaks ok english. I suggested we go for coffee.

They show me to a place thats a dark bar, with a few male waiters inside not really doing anything.

Bar on a afternoon vs coffee in a Pacific Coffee type place?

I asked why we go here. They say " they are all our friends here, its a nice place."

A small dark bar on a sunny day. I ask, so what we do there." Oh we can drink coffee and have some fruit"

Yeah, the RMB 1, 000 fruit plate. LOL. Sorry girls, I've been around the block once or twice. I know the old fruit scam when I see it.

Anyways if anyone here wants some fun, one girl called "Sister is very beautiful" on QQ is one of the protagonists. Lead her on and have fun.

UnoMas
10-23-12, 17:25
UnoMas,

Usually the pictures of this hottie were fake. And I suggest you not to pay upfront. Keep chatting with her to see how it goes.

ChinBroYou were right. I asked a few simple questions and eventually "she" called me annoying and black listed me. Thanks for looking out bro.

Will keep hunting.

Jude Bright
10-24-12, 02:27
Just arrived Beijing for a few days and I had a few hours free yesterday afternoon. Called up Angel recommended by this forum. I stayed in Beiwei 40 degree hotel, near Suzhou bridge by the 3rd ring in Haidian. I think she was not comfortable because I spoke Chinese with her. She told me Haidian is too far and refused to come to my hotel. I do not know if that is true or that is because I spoke Chinese with her. I end up called an old friend.

JB

ChinBro
10-24-12, 04:12
Just arrived Beijing for a few days and I had a few hours free yesterday afternoon. Called up Angel recommended by this forum. I stayed in Beiwei 40 degree hotel, near Suzhou bridge by the 3rd ring in Haidian. I think she was not comfortable because I spoke Chinese with her. She told me Haidian is too far and refused to come to my hotel. I do not know if that is true or that is because I spoke Chinese with her. I end up called an old friend.

JBProbably because you spoke Chinese with her, probably because you stayed at a nonstar hotel, in my opinion.

Try to contact Kitty for a try, if you really need an outcall girl to visit you. Probably Kittly can help you.

Her contact can be seen in the 'Classified Ads' section.


You were right. I asked a few simple questions and eventually "she" called me annoying and black listed me. Thanks for looking out bro.

Will keep hunting.Sometimes, this 'she' would probably be a bro who had one or several girls working under him. Keep chatting and happy hunting, bro UnoMas.

Erasmus B Dragin
10-24-12, 04:52
Tea houses are an old venue for the topics of interest to this forum. You may have noticed them mentioned in police reports and announcements of crackdowns, which are very educational reading material. The 90's HK movie "China and Sex" portrayed a brothel thinly disguised as a tea house.

Both of my experiences were planed by my partners. The first one was down near the Nanyaun airport in Fengtai district with an employee of an airline. We had met on the plane that day and she was flying out the next morning. She would not allow me to come to her hotel for fear of being seen by coworkers, and I was a bit weary of meeting at a teahouse near a notorious redlight distrct. Without going into unnecessary details I will just say that it was a very memorable evening.

My second experience was on the northside near the Olympic venues. My g / f was visiting BJ staying with a friend in the area and we only had a couple of hours. She had spotted the teahouse earlier and took me there straight away when I arrived to pick her up. This place had only private rooms so the setup seemed to be designed for hanky-panky. We had been together before so got down to our important business quickly. For me there is an element of excitment to doing these things in such (for us westerners, anyway) unconventional places.

To answer your question, though, I honestly don't recall how the charges were broken down in either tea house, but I'm sure they were very reasonable. I would remember better if it had been expensive.

And while I'm on the topic of unconventional venues (for non-Chinese) , police reports often mention dance halls, and many dance halls close during national holidays and other "sensitive" dates. There are very good reasons for this. I have some experience with dance halls in other parts of the country but not here in the capital. I've heard of a black-light club on the south side of town that sounds like a very interesting place, if anyone is interested.


This is interesting. I've never been in a tea house. Do they charge you for the room? There is one near my office, and also happens to be near a freebie I'm working on. This could be a very good option since taking her to a hotel the first time isn't the best approach for this particular woman.

I'll definitely check out this option, and report if it works out.

GM.

Erasmus B Dragin
10-24-12, 09:26
I wrote a reply to this earlier, but for some reason it didn't get posted.

I honestly don't recall exactly how the charges were broken down at either tea house, but the tabs were reasonable and transparent. I'd certainly remember if they had not been.

My first experience was with a girl I met on a flight back to Beijing. She worked for an airline and was in BJ for only one night, staying near the nanyaun airport. She didn't want me to come to her hotel and I was a bit apprehensive about going to a tea house in a notorious red light area. Nonetheless I went and, without going into unnecessary details, it was a very memorable experience. The tea house was laid out like a restaurant with tables in a common area and private rooms down a corridor in back.

The second time was on the north side of town near the Olympic venues. My friend was visiting Beijing and staying with her "lao xiang" in that area. She took me to this place that she had scouted out and, once there, little pretense was made about why we were there. After the waitress served our tea and departed, my girl locked the door. There was a small window in the door (exactly like in MPs) presumably required by law, but the sofa was on a wall next to the door and not within the viewing area. None of this was coincidental.

I must admit that there is something appealing to me about such activities in such unconventional, for a westerner at least, places. For Chinese, of course, this usage of tea houses is common knowledge. There was even a HK-made film about a brothel thinly disguised as a tea house back in the 90s,"Sex and China". Police reports of busts and crackdowns, ever a rich source of ideas, often mention tea houses.


This is interesting. I've never been in a tea house. Do they charge you for the room? There is one near my office, and also happens to be near a freebie I'm working on. This could be a very good option since taking her to a hotel the first time isn't the best approach for this particular woman.

I'll definitely check out this option, and report if it works out.

GM.

FernandoAlonso
10-24-12, 13:17
I almost always do it this way, even if I have my passport. Just let the girl do it, no mention of you at all. Have her text you the room number, and ideally, have her leave the door open slightly. You don't even need to be present yet. Hang around outside somewhere if it makes you more comfortable. When you get the room number by text, just walk in, don't even make eye contact with the clerks, go straight to the elevator like you belong there. For all they know you checked in before they came on duty, they won't bother you. If she has left the door open, you can walk in as if it is your room. The security guy, if he is awake and looking at the video for your hallway, will have no suspicions at all.

If you worry about getting your face on video (I'm not, but I have friends who are) wear a baseball cap and keep your head down. (I don't do that because I think it attracts attention, but be your own judge.)

HomeInn has a 100 RMB short term rate (somewhere between 2 and 4 hours, I forget). You also have to leave a 100RMB key deposit which is returned. Just tell the girl you will pay her back, but if she doesn't trust you, just cough up the 200 before she goes in.

Green Tree Inn has a similar deal (may be a little bit more expensive, but not much). In my experience, their rooms are a bit better than HomeInn, but both are acceptable.

Neither have ever given a problem to the girl checking in by herself.

GM.Guys,

The law does require visitors to register only after 11pm. Normally this is little cared for but what Freebie Fan experienced is the current modus operandi for all options. LE has advised this practice to all rent out rooms. It used to be like this in October only but now it is a difficult time. You may get lucky but it everybody is nervous, especially if it involves laowei. This is a good time for playing extra careful, things will relax a bit soon.

FA

Split
10-24-12, 20:39
Guys,

The law does require visitors to register only after 11pm. Normally this is little cared for but what Freebie Fan experienced is the current modus operandi for all options. LE has advised this practice to all rent out rooms. It used to be like this in October only but now it is a difficult time. You may get lucky but it everybody is nervous, especially if it involves laowei. This is a good time for playing extra careful, things will relax a bit soon.

FAI got quite nervous recently when there was a snafu of 3 girls in 30 minutes showing up at my hotel. 1st I turned down because too plump.

2nd one came, (although I never agreed to have that one come out as the provider hung up on me without agreement). Turns out it was the 2nd I never agreed for deliver, then the 3rd arrives and I get a call that the intended girl is here. The girl in the room matched the description so I thought they were confused. Turned out I had to escort the girl out of the room to find the 3rd waiting outside the hotel, with security cameras all over the hotel inside and out. Paid the 2nd girl some money to leave quickly and took the other into the lobby and to the room. I was pretty nervous about all this being recorded and key card access required for elevator access right next to the front desk. I think front desk knew, because next morning the girls there seemed to be laughing as if they knew something about me. Communicating with these providers can be dangerous. I don't want to be in this situation again as it was 1:30-2am when these 3 girls came.

Erasmus B Dragin
10-25-12, 07:42
Sorry about the repeat. I posted a second response to GM's comments when my first one didn't appear on the forum several hours later. I forgot about the review time for the webmaster.

BeijingCbc
10-25-12, 08:35
Been busy on Momo and WeChat lately but wanted to take a break from that so went out to Wangjing New Town for a massage last Sunday night around 11. I usually partake in the outcall services and hardly venture to the massage places there in person so it was a fairly new experience for me. Anyway, found 405 since it was the most recent reviewed place on the forum and asked for the 168 RMB massage.

Led to a small room with a massage bed and a small dresser, no shower. A minute later, girl knocked on the girl and asked if she was suitable. Wasn't really too picky so I said okay. She was a nice girl from Shaanxi. 23 years old, good size firm B-cups, maybe even Cs. She was number 68 I believe.

After 15 mins of massaging my back, I turned over and she immediately told me that FS was available. She said it was 600, but I countered with 400 since I had only brought 400 kuai, some change for a taxi and a couple condoms with me. She was hesitant at first but I told her I only brought 400 and condoms because I knew the price for FS in the area and she could even check my pockets if she didn't believe me.

She agreed to the 400 including the fee for the massage so I gave the her money and she went to wash her hands and also brought back some wipes. Quick CBJ, multiple positions and finished in doggy. Offered to continue the massage till time was up, but I declined since her massage skills were not that great. We chit-chatted for a while though and I got her mobile number at the end.

405 is definitely worth a visit if you're after cheap FS. I will most likely repeat if I'm in the area but will probably try another girl. The Wangjing New Town complex is huge and I had a hard time navigating in the dark. But I believe 405 is one of the buildings close to the west gate. Once you get in through the gate, hang a left and its the second building.

Member #4387
10-25-12, 21:46
Ok, so I'm new to Beijing but not new to what girls will do, and was very familiar with the Nanjing road scams in Shanghai.

Chatted on QQ with some girl who duly sent me nice pics of herself. Chat was nice and friendly. Checked out her pics on tinyeye. Com and it didn't show they were copied from somewhere.

Anyways we arranged to meet at Soho project near Central Plaza / Place. Not far from my office so didn't lose much time.

We met and she's with her friend who speaks ok english. I suggested we go for coffee.

They show me to a place thats a dark bar, with a few male waiters inside not really doing anything.

Bar on a afternoon vs coffee in a Pacific Coffee type place?

I asked why we go here. They say " they are all our friends here, its a nice place."

A small dark bar on a sunny day. I ask, so what we do there." Oh we can drink coffee and have some fruit"

Yeah, the RMB 1, 000 fruit plate. LOL. Sorry girls, I've been around the block once or twice. I know the old fruit scam when I see it.

Anyways if anyone here wants some fun, one girl called "Sister is very beautiful" on QQ is one of the protagonists. Lead her on and have fun.We can not warn to many times of the risk of beeing scammed so I think you did a good job to reveal this scam you almost found yourself in (but I guess you early saw what was coming and you played along for a bit). But there are ways to turn the situation around. I did one post in this thread earlier where I turned one art scamming girl outside the Oriental Plaza into what we can say now have become some sort of regular sexgirl I meet when I am mongering in Beijing. The benefits of a scamminggirl is that she most definatly speaks good to almost perfect english (within reasons ofcourse) so you can also create good conversations in between pops as well.

It feels better going from almost beeing scammed to getting laid instead.

AddictedTozgnh
10-26-12, 06:02
Just when I think BJ is getting boring with everything shut down for govt turnover, a regular haunt of mine in zhichunlu area adds near SN experience to the menu. Mind you they doubled the price to 800 for 2 hours until after govt handover. Girls are easily 8+ with great GFE. Some more GFE than others (eg #52, 79). The place is very clean, nice beds and showers, and great talent. No FS there right now unfortunately. Hope things loosen up in December. PM me if you want loc'd.

UnoMas
10-26-12, 14:36
So I haven't mentioned it but I've actually never visited a WG for anything other than a HE before. Today that changed. I went to a place in an apartment near the guomao bridge, asked for the full body massage, and the girl in the front took me to another floor into a two bedroom apartment. The massage was 100 RMB. She was a 6. 5-7. It obviously started getting pretty touchy feely, then she asked if I needed any health massage and pointed to places on my body. I said yes, and she said the base fee is 500. I asked for extra, and she said it would be 800. I only had 700 and she was fine with that. She was very friendly and cute, and did a great job, seemingly enjoying it. Not bad for my first time. It ended up being a CIM. Only problem with the experience was that she was wearing perfume which made me paranoid the entire time that I would track the odor home. The soap in the shower was also strong smelling. Is this typical? I would have thought that the ladies would avoid perfume and the soap with be very light in odor.

UnoMas
10-26-12, 15:48
Just when I think BJ is getting boring with everything shut down for govt turnover, a regular haunt of mine in zhichunlu area adds near SN experience to the menu. Mind you they doubled the price to 800 for 2 hours until after govt handover. Girls are easily 8+ with great GFE. Some more GFE than others (eg #52, 79). The place is very clean, nice beds and showers, and great talent. No FS there right now unfortunately. Hope things loosen up in December. PM me if you want loc'd.I searched around on the acronym lists and couldn't find "near SN". Is that near sixty nine?

FunMan13
10-27-12, 15:03
I also read somewhere in the China thread (forgot which city) where you are lured to an apartment, then "LE" showed up and to had to pay up to get out. Another post was similar but instead of LE, the "boy friend" showed up with "male friends" and you had to pay "face saving" money.


So I started using WeChat and I'm actually getting several girls contacting me instead of only the other way around. Quite nice. Anyway I contacted this hottie, but she was quite short with her replies, and after two messages directly named her price before I even realized she was a WG.

600 one time. 300 upfront.

So I then asked her where to meet, and she gave me her address, in a mid-range apartment complex.

I've read that upfront payment is a bad sign, so I asked her about this, and she said she'd been tricked before which is why she takes a part upfront.

Does the upfront fee and directly inviting me to her apartment ring any alarm bells with you all, or is this standard practice?

UnoMas

LuvPussy
10-27-12, 21:00
Guys,

The law does require visitors to register only after 11pm. Normally this is little cared for but what Freebie Fan experienced is the current modus operandi for all options. LE has advised this practice to all rent out rooms. It used to be like this in October only but now it is a difficult time. You may get lucky but it everybody is nervous, especially if it involves laowei. This is a good time for playing extra careful, things will relax a bit soon.

FAI will not recommend cheap hotel. That where govnt check and scam happened. For foreigner, big no no. Always stay in 4or 5 star hotel. You can ask girl come in, pick her at the lobby, no body cares as they kind permit it if it is nice hotel. LE will never go to nice hotel.

RamRodStraight
10-28-12, 13:12
I'm fairly new in Beijing and looking for frustrated housewives who need sexual fulfilment that they aren't getting at home. How do you find these women: online, on the street, through friends, on this list? Do you meet at their home for the 'sessions' or would I need to host? Are they usually looking for 'support' or are they happy to finally be getting some attention? Can anybody help with these questions? Contact me if you can give some pointers.

Gualtier Malde
10-29-12, 07:48
I'm fairly new in Beijing and looking for frustrated housewives who need sexual fulfilment that they aren't getting at home. How do you find these women: online, on the street, through friends, on this list? Do you meet at their home for the 'sessions' or would I need to host? Are they usually looking for 'support' or are they happy to finally be getting some attention? Can anybody help with these questions? Contact me if you can give some pointers.Online? Yes. Badoo, Tagged, Weixin (WeChat) : I have met and bedded housewives (and single women) from all three services.

On the street? Yes. Rare. They aren't out trolling. Give Starbucks a try, maybe you'll get lucky.

Through friends? Yes. Be careful though that the friends will keep your secret.

On this list? NO.

You need to host, I've never found a housewife (especially Chinese ones) who would bring you to their home. In fact, it is the rare freebie of any stripe who will bring you to their home (but I've had several single ones who were the exception). You should plan on hosting, even if it means just getting a short time hotel (HomeInn, Green Tree, etc.). If they are frustrated and in it for the sex, they won't object to a short time hotel, though you probably should consider a significant upgrade if it is a more mid- to upper class wife. A four to five star hotel (especially a western brand) may be more expensive, but they will appreciate it. (One of the reasons freebies aren't really free.)

GM.

Tors Ham
10-29-12, 11:00
I'm fairly new in Beijing and looking for frustrated housewives who need sexual fulfilment that they aren't getting at home. How do you find these women: online, on the street, through friends, on this list? Do you meet at their home for the 'sessions' or would I need to host? Are they usually looking for 'support' or are they happy to finally be getting some attention? Can anybody help with these questions? Contact me if you can give some pointers.Rule No1. TIC don't search for trouble, you might get more than enough of that anyway. I am not an expert of these things and I don't have any knowledge of the BJ scene, but I have lived in China a couple of years and opportunities will come, you don't have to search hard for them. Just make sure that it's not a well connected husband's wife U banging, Connections and money is King and almost anything is possible if U got that in China so be careful who you play with. Personally I think it's a stupid idea to run around and searching for married girls when it's so much other out there to play with. If they turn out to be married, well shit happens but to search for that kind of trouble. Well it's up to you. Just don't let the small head do ALL the thinking.

Cheers

Freef
10-30-12, 06:51
Just when I think BJ is getting boring with everything shut down for govt turnover, a regular haunt of mine in zhichunlu area adds near SN experience to the menu. Mind you they doubled the price to 800 for 2 hours until after govt handover. Girls are easily 8+ with great GFE. Some more GFE than others (eg #52, 79). The place is very clean, nice beds and showers, and great talent. No FS there right now unfortunately. Hope things loosen up in December. PM me if you want loc'd.Hi AddictedTozgnh,

I live close to zhichunlu area. Unfortunately I can not PM you for the address. Have some clues? .

Would be much appreciated, thanks.

Easily Pleased
10-30-12, 17:25
Just wondering what everyone thinks. You can tell by my name what floats my boat and after 300rmb for a half an hour session, I am nearly always leaving happy. Is the service between a 300rmb and a 1500rmb ST really THAT different. If so, what exactly is ST? AM I missing something?

Split
10-31-12, 01:52
Just wondering what everyone thinks. You can tell by my name what floats my boat and after 300rmb for a half an hour session, I am nearly always leaving happy. Is the service between a 300rmb and a 1500rmb ST really THAT different. If so, what exactly is ST? AM I missing something?Probably not much. I've had better nuts in in the dirty 238rmb bathhouse in dlc. The hot factor has been overall better too.

Anonymous All
10-31-12, 17:28
Another one contacted me, telling me she was a tour guide. Told me her price but told me we could have kises instead of touring. We met for a " lets see what I might be geting " meeting. Nice long hair, happy smile, long legs, slim, . Very normal but worth it I felt. Agreed to meet this weekend.

Just back from 5 hours with her. What was good tho, was I told her my passport is with PSB for stamps etc. She said " you can come to my place " to save on hotel fees. Her place was in Guomao, she shares with another girl who was away. Nice apartment, very nicely funished. 5 hours of nice company, for TM 450. Seemed like a good deal to me. Was very happy. Tol me her room mate is away for another two weeks. Oh and she screamed like a dog in heat, thanks to a very prominent clit.

Tonight will go to a bar where I'm told the Filipinas tend to gather on a Saturday night. And the beat goes on.FreebieFan, how did you get in touch with this tour guide girl? Sounds like a great time. Please share!

AKRogger
11-01-12, 11:45
Had a quiet begininng to life in BJ as the wife was with me. So stayed low and didn't contact anyone. After she departed, I perused various websites, started some chat with a few ladies and all is going well.

Found a Filipina who is a sure thing in two weeks (she's not allowed out till then ). Having had millions of Manila adventures I kind of know how to play Filipinas. She's ready to play when she gets free.

Been seeing one girl, who is 29, normal office type, very cute face and body. We were out drinking last night at 1. 30 am and I thought I had it nailed when taxi was heading towards my place. But it turns out her place is further down the road and no she really didn't want to go back with me. I think she added " this time: but maybe that was wishful thinking. She knows I'm a serial player but she shared all her past and current loves so were even.

Another one contacted me, telling me she was a tour guide. Told me her price but told me we could have kises instead of touring. We met for a " lets see what I might be geting " meeting. Nice long hair, happy smile, long legs, slim, . Very normal but worth it I felt. Agreed to meet this weekend.

Just back from 5 hours with her. What was good tho, was I told her my passport is with PSB for stamps etc. She said " you can come to my place " to save on hotel fees. Her place was in Guomao, she shares with another girl who was away. Nice apartment, very nicely funished. 5 hours of nice company, for TM 450. Seemed like a good deal to me. Was very happy. Tol me her room mate is away for another two weeks. Oh and she screamed like a dog in heat, thanks to a very prominent clit.

Tonight will go to a bar where I'm told the Filipinas tend to gather on a Saturday night. And the beat goes on.

(PS. With no relevance to this post. Jackson you do a great job. Was a tad drunk last night when I made my whingeing comments. Sorry Sir!) Freebie: Please share contact details through PM or otherwise.

FreebieFan
11-02-12, 01:42
So far Freebie has been reasonably quiet. Found one or two Chinese freebies, one or two pay for play, one or two Filipinas for afternoon delight but theres a job to do so can't spend all day playing (and wife watching my every move at night!). However one lady and I have been having some interesting dates. Lots of ambiguous wordplay, fumbling under the table at restaurants etc. She's told me won't go to bed with me unless I take her out of Beijing and given that I'm in a new job thats hard to arrange right now.

Last night tho was fun. She suggested we go to a foot massage place, near St Regis, which I wasnt wild about, but when we get there, its a nice private place, private room etc, so we have our feet done then attendant leaves us alone. As we are in these nice loose massage costumes we got to have lots of play. No one disturbed us and we were left happily alone for at least 2 hours. Worth considering just like the Tea room suggestion.

Eventually she and I will get to bed, and then I will be bored with her, but she's playing a nice tease game so far and its fun. And getting your partner semi naked in a foot massage place was equally fun.

Beijing4987
11-02-12, 02:47
FF

I would like to suggest that you and Shanghai Nemo get together and have a go in Shanghai. Maybe you can come up with a comprenhensive guide to the hobby for the rest of us. You guys are a real inspiration, especially for those of us who have wives or girlfriends to keep in the dark about our fun.

Cheers.

Bj4987.

So far Freebie has been reasonably quiet. Found one or two Chinese freebies, one or two pay for play, one or two Filipinas for afternoon delight but theres a job to do so can't spend all day playing (and wife watching my every move at night!). However one lady and I have been having some interesting dates. Lots of ambiguous wordplay, fumbling under the table at restaurants etc. She's told me won't go to bed with me unless I take her out of Beijing and given that I'm in a new job thats hard to arrange right now.

Last night tho was fun. She suggested we go to a foot massage place, near St Regis, which I wasnt wild about, but when we get there, its a nice private place, private room etc, so we have our feet done then attendant leaves us alone. As we are in these nice loose massage costumes we got to have lots of play. No one disturbed us and we were left happily alone for at least 2 hours. Worth considering just like the Tea room suggestion.

Eventually she and I will get to bed, and then I will be bored with her, but she's playing a nice tease game so far and its fun. And getting your partner semi naked in a foot massage place was equally fun.[/QUOTE]

FreebieFan
11-03-12, 03:33
FreebieFan, how did you get in touch with this tour guide girl? Sounds like a great time. Please share!Posted an Ad in Craigslist.

ShanghaiNemo
11-03-12, 05:11
FF

I would like to suggest that you and Shanghai Nemo get together and have a go in Shanghai. Maybe you can come up with a comprenhensive guide to the hobby for the rest of us. You guys are a real inspiration, especially for those of us who have wives or girlfriends to keep in the dark about our fun.

Cheers,

Bj4987

So far Freebie has been reasonably quiet. Found one or two Chinese freebies, one or two pay for play, one or two Filipinas for afternoon delight but theres a job to do so can't spend all day playing (and wife watching my every move at night!). However one lady and I have been having some interesting dates. Lots of ambiguous wordplay, fumbling under the table at restaurants etc. She's told me won't go to bed with me unless I take her out of Beijing and given that I'm in a new job thats hard to arrange right now.

Last night tho was fun. She suggested we go to a foot massage place, near St Regis, which I wasnt wild about, but when we get there, its a nice private place, private room etc, so we have our feet done then attendant leaves us alone. As we are in these nice loose massage costumes we got to have lots of play. No one disturbed us and we were left happily alone for at least 2 hours. Worth considering just like the Tea room suggestion.

Eventually she and I will get to bed, and then I will be bored with her, but she's playing a nice tease game so far and its fun. And getting your partner semi naked in a foot massage place was equally fun.[/QUOTE]Eeheheheheeh.

Take a look my last photos of yesterday night.

Easily Pleased
11-03-12, 17:26
A valuable lesson for me being a 'shabi laowai' recently is to say "San bai quai ma?". When they look blank, I just do the universal sex hand signal and it's all good. I have been searching and searching and the great thing is you always come across (literally) some absolute gems. Gems for 300rmb is quality IMO, but you have to search. I see alot of areas closed up shop but the further you go out, the more ye find, right?

Loveasiangirls
11-04-12, 03:11
A little tired of seeing people asking for contact details of a freebie. Clearly these people do not understand what a freebie is hence the reason why they cannot find any. If you believe that there is such a girl who will have sex with you for nothing, please read this to the end. I have used very few WG in China but stopped counting my freebies after 100. In am in late 50s and a little overweight but handsome and charming (apparently). Their age ranged from early 20s to 45 (and that one had the body of a 25 year old in North America). The majority were probably 28 to 38 years old. Some I met one time, others I banged irregularly over a couple of years. Most had a great body even if sometimes their face was average.

The first thing to understand: these are not working girls. In other words, they do not screw 4 guys or more per day. They are normal people like your daughter or your sister. They will have sex when horny or if U-turn them on. However some are more slutty than others. Some will be horny enough to go looking for a guy once a week (the type you may meet in a bar) , some once a year and some once in a lifetime. You cannot assume that every girl you come across on the street will sleep with a random guy, no more than in the country that you come from (despite that you may see in porn movies or reading the Penthouse letters). Some will accept a loose arrangement of seeing you regularly and having no official relationship. In their mind this is a temporary arrangement until they find someone. There is a Chinese saying that goes "ride a mule and keep looking for a horse". Nothing wrong with being the mule for a while.

Why would the girl sleep with YOU, even if she is horny? Because she likes you, because you are charming or because she sees some long term potential with you. Understand that the typical Chinese girl has the same dream as the typical western girl: find her man, start a family, have a house and kids and live a happy life.

They key thing is that you need to be patient to bed her and never talk about sex too early. They already know that most foreigners in China are sex maniacs. Try to show you are normal. But do not mislead them, be honest about your intentions. Do not start talking about marriage thinking that this will convince them or say you love them just to sleep with them if you have no intention of calling them afterwards. Any ways, this is the principle I go by and it did not preclude me from finding tons of girls. BE PATIENT AND WORK ON IT. Unless you are super lucky, you will not sleep with them after the first contact. How often does this happen where you come from? You need to take time to chat them up, maybe have dinner or coffee once, etc. You need to treat a freebie or potential one like a GF or potential one. Remember, she will go to bed with you because she likes you and you charmed her.

If you understand the above, then you also understand that one cannot share contacts of a freebie. It is a personal chemistry thing. If you want a freebie then go out looking for one and work on it.

Remember the saying "free sex is more expensive than sex that you pay for". It doesn't have to be much more expensive but remember to treat the girl nice. I have a female friend who lived overseas before and was looking for a lover as her Chinese BF was not very talented in bed. She would not pick me as she knows my GF but she told me about the guys she was meeting. One time she agreed to meet a guy for coffee at Starbucks. The guy would not even buy her coffee not did he buy himself one. So do not be so cheap. He was actually expecting to go to her place after the coffee. That did not help either.

Except for exceptional luck, you need to work to get a freebie and have time to do so. So please do not ask to share contacts of freebies, it does not work.

GregoryB
11-04-12, 04:03
A little tired of seeing people asking for contact details of a freebie. Clearly these people do not understand what a freebie is hence the reason why they cannot find any. If you believe that there is such a girl who will have sex with you for nothing, please read this to the end. I have used very few WG in China but stopped counting my freebies after 100. In am in late 50s and a little overweight but handsome and charming (apparently). Their age ranged from early 20s to 45 (and that one had the body of a 25 year old in North America). The majority were probably 28 to 38 years old. Some I met one time, others I banged irregularly over a couple of years. Most had a great body even if sometimes their face was average.

The first thing to understand: these are not working girls. In other words, they do not screw 4 guys or more per day. They are normal people like your daughter or your sister. They will have sex when horny or if U-turn them on. However some are more slutty than others. Some will be horny enough to go looking for a guy once a week (the type you may meet in a bar) , some once a year and some once in a lifetime. You cannot assume that every girl you come across on the street will sleep with a random guy, no more than in the country that you come from (despite that you may see in porn movies or reading the Penthouse letters). Some will accept a loose arrangement of seeing you regularly and having no official relationship. In their mind this is a temporary arrangement until they find someone. There is a Chinese saying that goes "ride a mule and keep looking for a horse". Nothing wrong with being the mule for a while.

Why would the girl sleep with YOU, even if she is horny? Because she likes you, because you are charming or because she sees some long term potential with you. Understand that the typical Chinese girl has the same dream as the typical western girl: find her man, start a family, have a house and kids and live a happy life.

They key thing is that you need to be patient to bed her and never talk about sex too early. They already know that most foreigners in China are sex maniacs. Try to show you are normal. But do not mislead them, be honest about your intentions. Do not start talking about marriage thinking that this will convince them or say you love them just to sleep with them if you have no intention of calling them afterwards. Any ways, this is the principle I go by and it did not preclude me from finding tons of girls. BE PATIENT AND WORK ON IT. Unless you are super lucky, you will not sleep with them after the first contact. How often does this happen where you come from? You need to take time to chat them up, maybe have dinner or coffee once, etc. You need to treat a freebie or potential one like a GF or potential one. Remember, she will go to bed with you because she likes you and you charmed her.

If you understand the above, then you also understand that one cannot share contacts of a freebie. It is a personal chemistry thing. If you want a freebie then go out looking for one and work on it.

Remember the saying "free sex is more expensive than sex that you pay for". It doesn't have to be much more expensive but remember to treat the girl nice. I have a female friend who lived overseas before and was looking for a lover as her Chinese BF was not very talented in bed. She would not pick me as she knows my GF but she told me about the guys she was meeting. One time she agreed to meet a guy for coffee at Starbucks. The guy would not even buy her coffee not did he buy himself one. So do not be so cheap. He was actually expecting to go to her place after the coffee. That did not help either.

Except for exceptional luck, you need to work to get a freebie and have time to do so. So please do not ask to share contacts of freebies, it does not work.-

Its amazing that anyone in here is asking for freebies contacts. Hope much that this very clear and overdue summary reduces the number of such inpolite inquieries.

It may not completely eliminate them but hopfully reduces the "noise" and helps to leave more room for valuable reports!

I can only strongly second LA's statements.

Gregory

Landa2
11-04-12, 06:33
Thanks for the post. I contacted Xiao Si and can vouch for what you are saying here. I have met her two times now. Very hot. Very nice. Great english. Great sex.

Both times I met her during the day. I live and work here in BJ and so it is easier for me to meet during days during work sometimes. (original post by James in http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1326917#post1326917)

Totally agree with Ma Li Qiang and James. Visited her some days ago and the experience was totally positive. You can say that James gave you the info and you will pay 1000 (she usually asks for 1500).

Her apartment, a Ikea decorated kind, is on a walking distance from Sanlitun and can easily found with any map or just asking for the address. XiaoSi speaks good enough english and is really kind. You will not feel any pressure or rush service. In fact she gave me a really erotic massage (300RMB) and kindly offered if I wanted something else. Nice CBJ, several positions (specially having her in missionary with her head falling off the edge of the bed or the doggy grabbing her from her arms). Very dedicated girl.

She can offer a wide range of services and probably everything is negotiable. She can even introduce you some of her friends.

If you are for ST in Beijing and don't want to lose time or any risks then text / call her. In call or out call available.

FreebieFan
11-04-12, 07:22
A little tired of seeing people asking for contact details of a freebie. Clearly these people do not understand what a freebie is hence the reason why they cannot find any. If you believe that there is such a girl who will have sex with you for nothing, please read this to the end. I have used very few WG in China but stopped counting my freebies after 100. In am in late 50s and a little overweight but handsome and charming (apparently).

T.

Except for exceptional luck, you need to work to get a freebie and have time to do so. So please do not ask to share contacts of freebies, it does not work.Its all about chemistry. I happen to enjoy the "hunt", the flirtatious chats. The sweet texts, everything that is designed to get a girl into bed. I've been doing it for many years in many countries. But becuase my style works on one girl there is no way, or guarantee that if I gave the girls number to a guy, that he would be instantly successful.

I always used to laugh back when I lived in Malaysia, and I would post a trip report about meeting a great freebie, and the next days 10 guys would all be " can you share lah "

Theres a world full of freebies but they all take time to chase pursue and successfully work your magic on. No point to share, it truly is pointless.

FreebieFan
11-06-12, 04:57
Wife has been around for a while now so have had to duck and dive to have any sort of contact with the ladies. Fortunately thats about to change.

Booked an apartment for my use for Friday night, (can't take anyone to my real apartment) so if you see a mid 50s guy with a happy busty Filipina somewhere in Donzhimen that might just be me. We only met once for a " investment lunch". Meaning I invested the time for lunch on showing her I'm a nice happy guy. I suggested that as its cold she may want a night in a nice warm apartment with some red wine etc. She quite readily agreed.

Saturday, my regular Chinese date, who I haven't slept with yet, has suggested she will sleep with me as long as its not in Beijing. So it looks like we will have a train ride somewhere and I will have a nice ride thereafter.

I love the flirty ladies who can keep me interested for more than 3 or 4 dates and this one has done that very well.

No dount the wife will ask me " hows the weekend " and no doubt I will reply " oh, I did this and that "

DogRice
11-06-12, 19:58
Folks,

Will be back to Beijing tomorrow for 4 days. Have been out for a while.

I think this week is bad week for our hobby as the government meeting kicks off this week. .

I have several potential freebies lined up for meeting and see whether I can score any of them.

Want to see any folks have experience with some of the sauna (such as &28698; &28023; &37329; &38307;) and massage (I used to call WangJing 418, and their #16 gave the HJ) recently. I do read about the last 10 pages of the forum, and will continue to read more. If any bro has opinion / suggestion about Sauna and Massage, please let me know. Appreciate that.

Loveasiangirls
11-06-12, 22:53
That's the way. Enjoy while the wife doesn't have a smart phone with videoconferencing!


Wife has been around for a while now so have had to duck and dive to have any sort of contact with the ladies. Fortunately thats about to change.

Booked an apartment for my use for Friday night, (can't take anyone to my real apartment) so if you see a mid 50s guy with a happy busty Filipina somewhere in Donzhimen that might just be me. We only met once for a " investment lunch". Meaning I invested the time for lunch on showing her I'm a nice happy guy. I suggested that as its cold she may want a night in a nice warm apartment with some red wine etc. She quite readily agreed.

Saturday, my regular Chinese date, who I haven't slept with yet, has suggested she will sleep with me as long as its not in Beijing. So it looks like we will have a train ride somewhere and I will have a nice ride thereafter.

I love the flirty ladies who can keep me interested for more than 3 or 4 dates and this one has done that very well.

No dount the wife will ask me " hows the weekend " and no doubt I will reply " oh, I did this and that "

PuttPutt509
11-07-12, 15:16
I enjoyed 4 nights of having Angel send girls to my hotel room recently. All would shower upon arriving to my room. I had already showered, so I don't know if they would have been okay with me joining them. First one was Jing Jing. 30ish, tall, pretty, great body, lite kissing only, but all the other things you would expect from an encounter. All girls were fine with whatever positions I wanted. No english, and she left immediately. Second one not sure of the name, but very young and cute, just a little english but we used google translate to communicate a bit. Third was Mo Cheng, a very cute girl of around 22. She was the most responsive person I've ever been with, she really seemed to be into it and enjoyed things as much as I did. Her moaning in Chinese during a long DAY session was a huge turn on. And unlike the other two, she didn't just leave when I finished, she cuddled for a good ten minutes or so before taking a shower and heading out. A total GFE. If only she spoke English I would have tried to get her to stay with me for the entire trip. Repeated with her the next night and it was just as awesome except for getting busted going into my room with her by two older couple I had befriended earlier at the hotel bar. That was kind of embarrassing. I would have loved to hear what the wives said to the husbands after I closed the door to my room. The husbands must have been jealous she was so young and hot. Amazing price. 600 rmb including taxi each night. I tipped Mo Cheng 200 rmb each night, which she appreciated. I probably should have given her more she was so good.

Angel speaks good english and everything was very easy on me as somebody who can't speak Chinese.

Mr Handjob
11-07-12, 16:36
Hi there.

Dear forum, once again I am going to Beijing. This time the travel agency have put me into Jiangou Hotel. Never stayed there so my humble question to this impressive forum is;

Is the hotel girlfriendly?

Is there any massage place close where I can be certain of getting good massage from naked lady, with handjob and / or blowjob without being robbed, normally I pay around 300 for an hour with 2 pops. Please PM if you have details.

Is there any outcall ladies (prefereble freelancers and not agencies) with or without massage that can visit me and then provide 2 hour or even all night without for a fair price? Normally around 400 for an hour of fun and 1. 000 for all night (unlimited pops)? Please PM details if you have.

Last but not least is there any close bye agencies that I should try or avoid? Please PM details or rely in this forum.

Split
11-08-12, 05:44
I enjoyed 4 nights of having Angel send girls to my hotel room recently. All would shower upon arriving to my room. I had already showered, so I don't know if they would have been okay with me joining them. First one was Jing Jing. 30ish, tall, pretty, great body, lite kissing only, but all the other things you would expect from an encounter. All girls were fine with whatever positions I wanted. No english, and she left immediately. Second one not sure of the name, but very young and cute, just a little english but we used google translate to communicate a bit. Third was Mo Cheng, a very cute girl of around 22. She was the most responsive person I've ever been with, she really seemed to be into it and enjoyed things as much as I did. Her moaning in Chinese during a long DAY session was a huge turn on. And unlike the other two, she didn't just leave when I finished, she cuddled for a good ten minutes or so before taking a shower and heading out. A total GFE. If only she spoke English I would have tried to get her to stay with me for the entire trip. Repeated with her the next night and it was just as awesome except for getting busted going into my room with her by two older couple I had befriended earlier at the hotel bar. That was kind of embarrassing. I would have loved to hear what the wives said to the husbands after I closed the door to my room. The husbands must have been jealous she was so young and hot. Amazing price. 600 rmb including taxi each night. I tipped Mo Cheng 200 rmb each night, which she appreciated. I probably should have given her more she was so good.

Angel speaks good english and everything was very easy on me as somebody who can't speak Chinese.Ha, I had Mo Cheng (I thought she said Momo Chan) 2 weeks ago. She's very short right? Long Hair from Anhui. I had her for LT and she was very affectionate. Face is not the best but cute enough. I wonder if it is the same girl.

Gualtier Malde
11-08-12, 06:29
Loveasiangirls, thanks for writing this. This is absolutely true. Every syllable.

Also, your Starbucks story sounds almost exactly like the story a particularly nymphomaniacal freebie friend of mine told me. I would wonder if it is the same girl, but this one is married and never lived overseas. But could be the same stupid dude.

GM.


A little tired of seeing people asking for contact details of a freebie. Clearly these people do not understand what a freebie is hence the reason why they cannot find any. If you believe that there is such a girl who will have sex with you for nothing, please read this to the end. I have used very few WG in China but stopped counting my freebies after 100. In am in late 50s and a little overweight but handsome and charming (apparently). Their age ranged from early 20s to 45 (and that one had the body of a 25 year old in North America). The majority were probably 28 to 38 years old. Some I met one time, others I banged irregularly over a couple of years. Most had a great body even if sometimes their face was average.

The first thing to understand: these are not working girls. In other words, they do not screw 4 guys or more per day. They are normal people like your daughter or your sister. They will have sex when horny or if U-turn them on. However some are more slutty than others. Some will be horny enough to go looking for a guy once a week (the type you may meet in a bar) , some once a year and some once in a lifetime. You cannot assume that every girl you come across on the street will sleep with a random guy, no more than in the country that you come from (despite that you may see in porn movies or reading the Penthouse letters). Some will accept a loose arrangement of seeing you regularly and having no official relationship. In their mind this is a temporary arrangement until they find someone. There is a Chinese saying that goes "ride a mule and keep looking for a horse". Nothing wrong with being the mule for a while.

Why would the girl sleep with YOU, even if she is horny? Because she likes you, because you are charming or because she sees some long term potential with you. Understand that the typical Chinese girl has the same dream as the typical western girl: find her man, start a family, have a house and kids and live a happy life.

They key thing is that you need to be patient to bed her and never talk about sex too early. They already know that most foreigners in China are sex maniacs. Try to show you are normal. But do not mislead them, be honest about your intentions. Do not start talking about marriage thinking that this will convince them or say you love them just to sleep with them if you have no intention of calling them afterwards. Any ways, this is the principle I go by and it did not preclude me from finding tons of girls. BE PATIENT AND WORK ON IT. Unless you are super lucky, you will not sleep with them after the first contact. How often does this happen where you come from? You need to take time to chat them up, maybe have dinner or coffee once, etc. You need to treat a freebie or potential one like a GF or potential one. Remember, she will go to bed with you because she likes you and you charmed her.

If you understand the above, then you also understand that one cannot share contacts of a freebie. It is a personal chemistry thing. If you want a freebie then go out looking for one and work on it.

Remember the saying "free sex is more expensive than sex that you pay for". It doesn't have to be much more expensive but remember to treat the girl nice. I have a female friend who lived overseas before and was looking for a lover as her Chinese BF was not very talented in bed. She would not pick me as she knows my GF but she told me about the guys she was meeting. One time she agreed to meet a guy for coffee at Starbucks. The guy would not even buy her coffee not did he buy himself one. So do not be so cheap. He was actually expecting to go to her place after the coffee. That did not help either.

Except for exceptional luck, you need to work to get a freebie and have time to do so. So please do not ask to share contacts of freebies, it does not work.

El Frances
11-09-12, 22:03
So I started using WeChat and I'm actually getting several girls contacting me instead of only the other way around. Quite nice. Anyway I contacted this hottie, but she was quite short with her replies, and after two messages directly named her price before I even realized she was a WG.

600 one time. 300 upfront.

So I then asked her where to meet, and she gave me her address, in a mid-range apartment complex.

I've read that upfront payment is a bad sign, so I asked her about this, and she said she'd been tricked before which is why she takes a part upfront.

Does the upfront fee and directly inviting me to her apartment ring any alarm bells with you all, or is this standard practice?

UnoMasHi!

Why look for trouble when you just need to call lilly, maria and others to get a cute girl delivered in your room at no risk for 600 incl. Taxi?

As for the pictures, they are usually all fake in China. Download imagelookup add-on for firefox and choose google. You'll see they are all pictures of japanese, korean or eventually Chinese well-known models

ChinBro
11-10-12, 05:25
Hi!

Why look for trouble when you just need to call lilly, maria and others to get a cute girl delivered in your room at no risk for 600 incl. Taxi?

As for the pictures, they are usually all fake in China. Download imagelookup add-on for firefox and choose google. You'll see they are all pictures of japanese, korean or eventually Chinese well-known modelsYes, if you be here just for a short stay, or don't have enough time to explore other mongering scenes, calling delivered girls to your room almost the best option.

To me, Kitty, Maria, Angel / Lily are the most reliable three outcall girl suppliers. Suggest sending a message first, containing your requirements and these suppliers will do the rest. Usually after 30 or 40 minutes after confirmation, a delivered girl will show up in your room.

By the way, the contacts of them can be seen on 'Classified Ads' section under China forum.

ChinBro

ConquerorVal
11-10-12, 06:05
That's the way. Enjoy while the wife doesn't have a smart phone with videoconferencing!That is funny. FreebieFan's strategizing puts a smile on my face. This guy has balls and ambition. During vacations my problem is my 9 year old daughter who asks the difficult questions like where were you daddy, what did you do, and why where you gone for so long. My wife is too busy checking her photos or using her iPad. At home its pick up the daughter and take her here and there. Love them both but, I am trying to pick up a hobby now that would exclude my family and enable me to go on my own. Like a dedicated scuba diving trip to Dominican Republic? Next fall I hope.

FreebieFan
11-10-12, 11:11
That is funny. FreebieFan's strategizing puts a smile on my face. This guy has balls and ambition. During vacations my problem is my 9 year old daughter who asks the difficult questions like where were you daddy, what did you do, and why where you gone for so long. My wife is too busy checking her photos or using her iPad.I've been exactly where you are and have answered all those same questions endlessly.

I've also seen the endless Ipad and photo addiction! Maybe there are millions of us in the same boat. !

Frato
11-10-12, 15:12
(original post by James in.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1326917#post1326917

Totally agree with Ma Li Qiang and James. Visited her some days ago and the experience was totally positive. You can say that James gave you the info and you will pay 1000 (she usually asks for 1500).

Her apartment, a Ikea decorated kind, is on a walking distance from Sanlitun and can easily found with any map or just asking for the address. XiaoSi speaks good enough english and is really kind. You will not feel any pressure or rush service. In fact she gave me a really erotic massage (300RMB) and kindly offered if I wanted something else. Nice CBJ, several positions (specially having her in missionary with her head falling off the edge of the bed or the doggy grabbing her from her arms). Very dedicated girl.

If you are for ST in Beijing and don't want to lose time or any risks then text / call her. In call or out call available.I paid 1100 rmb no way for less. But very good service + massage + no rush, can talk. What else do you want. Professional worker, hope they could all be like her.

You can contact her (she is in sanlitun nan, near beermania) 135 8182 1577.

FreebieFan
11-11-12, 14:08
Not quite as planned but not a total disaster either.

My Friday night Filipina said she had a virus on Thursday and Friday so she bailed on me.

The Saturday Chinese gal that I was going to take on a train ride and stay overnight had her period starting on Friday. So there I am Friday afternoon, with 0 for 2 or whatever our transatlantic bros call it.

Anyways QQ to the rescue.

One lady I had started chatting to a few weeks back had then boldly declared " I'm scared of foreigners" so I assumed we wouldn't be meeting.

Fast forward a few weeks and she's saying " some foreigners like you sound ok "

Forward to Friday and she says " yes we can meet"

I have maybe 40 words of Mandarin and she has 4 of English. We meet, go to an apartment hotel (I don't want her in my place) , sit watching tv for 5 minutes till eventually the hands and lips wander and the clothes are off. We have a round, rest then another round. I know she's married but its 11pm and she says she wants to sleep. Maybe her hubby was off on a business trip. Anyways another round in the am and she leaves. Now weve hardly spoken but sometimes words arent necessary. 36, and maybe 56 kgs so wasnt all bad.

Sunday was another QQ meet. Met and lady a bit more shopworn than as I had seen her on cam. Never mind, she seemed affectionate, we stood at the rear of the subway train and her hands did a good job of wandering. Sadly that was as good as it got.

She had suggested we go shopping, then go to my place. Shopping consisted of wandering round a mall asking if I would buy her this, buy her this buy her that. I didn't buy and didn't bite either.

After 15 minutes I said lets go. She said lets shop. So the imaginary " darn I really need to go, old friend needs to see me " call came in. See ya honey". A massage in same nameless place took the edge off but it wasnt so much a happy ending as an ending.

Meanwhile hopefully the next weekend goes more according to plan! Still getting the hang of being back in China but I will get there.

UnoMas
11-12-12, 12:13
Hi!

Why look for trouble when you just need to call lilly, maria and others to get a cute girl delivered in your room at no risk for 600 incl. Taxi?

As for the pictures, they are usually all fake in China. Download imagelookup add-on for firefox and choose google. You'll see they are all pictures of japanese, korean or eventually Chinese well-known modelsI've got a wife at home, and I'd prefer to just get things handled instead of finding a hotel, which is why I was interested in this. I ended up not following up with this one due to the advice here.

I've seen several other fake WeChat accounts though and I'm still not convinced this one is fake. She uploads new pics regularly of herself, and none of them are found elsewhere on the net. She also posts links to her wall and general comments about life which seem pretty legit. If this account is fake, it's a really good job. Regardless, not worth the risk considering what else it out there.

UroFishing
11-13-12, 07:15
Hi,

I am planning to visit BJ during thanksgiving.

I will be staying at the Beijing Jinjiang Fuyuan Hotel with family.

I believe its the business district. Anyway, like to know if anyone can give some advice about how to find girls to get laid around that area without travelling too far!

Thanks!

Uncle Junior
11-13-12, 16:47
i was in bj last friday staying in chaoyang near the embassies. as i was concerned that the party meeting would be putting a damper on the city and i have little experience in bj, i gave angel a call.

very simple to set up other than angel is a bit difficult to understand on the phone. i requested a cute girl that spoke some english, liked kissing and daty. angel said not problem, she new just the girl.

gave her my hotel info and 30 minutes later my doorbell rang. i looked out the peep hole and couldn't see anyone. opening the door, i saw the reason was the girl was well under 5'. she was the tiniest little spinner that looked very young. face was a 7, body was very skinny with b breasts. she spoke enough english to communicate. her name sounded like mone an (sic) , but i didn't really here it well and didn't think it was important.

off to the shower, into the bed, and angel had sent exactly what i requested.

2 hours later, we are laying in bed cuddling, she takes a shower, i pay her $600 and she is very happy.

i was very happy with the experience especially since i was concerned about services being restricted due to the party meeting. angel certainly delivered a girl that met the requirements i requested. i would have preferred a bigger girl that was a bit older and did not look like a teenager, but i didn't not communicate that so i certainly can't complain.

i will definitely use angel next time in bj.

uncle junior

PuttPutt509
11-14-12, 00:37
i was in bj last friday staying in chaoyang near the embassies. as i was concerned that the party meeting would be putting a damper on the city and i have little experience in bj, i gave angel a call.

very simple to set up other than angel is a bit difficult to understand on the phone. i requested a cute girl that spoke some english, liked kissing and daty. angel said not problem, she new just the girl.

gave her my hotel info and 30 minutes later my doorbell rang. i looked out the peep hole and couldn't see anyone. opening the door, i saw the reason was the girl was well under 5'. she was the tiniest little spinner that looked very young. face was a 7, body was very skinny with b breasts. she spoke enough english to communicate. her name sounded like mone an (sic) , but i didn't really here it well and didn't think it was important.

off to the shower, into the bed, and angel had sent exactly what i requested.

2 hours later, we are laying in bed cuddling, she takes a shower, i pay her $600 and she is very happy.

i was very happy with the experience especially since i was concerned about services being restricted due to the party meeting. angel certainly delivered a girl that met the requirements i requested. i would have preferred a bigger girl that was a bit older and did not look like a teenager, but i didn't not communicate that so i certainly can't complain.

i will definitely use angel next time in bj.

uncle juniortwo hours? wow, they usually leave after one shot with me, and that seldom takes more than a half hour or so. did you get multiple shots? two hours for 600 rmb is amazing.

Teltel
11-14-12, 04:08
Hi,

I am planning to visit BJ during thanksgiving.

I will be staying at the Beijing Jinjiang Fuyuan Hotel with family.

I believe its the business district. Anyway, like to know if anyone can give some advice about how to find girls to get laid around that area without travelling too far!

Thanks!The only hotel by that name that I know of is in the southeast of Beijing outside the fifth ring road in an industrial area.

Your best bet is to take a walk for a bbs or to take time out from the family and find a sauna or KTV. The latter are not my scene so you would have to search on the forum for those.

Google earth may help you with orientation.

Teltel

Seekingals
11-14-12, 08:14
stop advertising yourself using different fake handles, angel.

do it 'classified ads' section.

we all know in beijing there are some reliable outcall suppliers such as kitty, maria, and you to be an option for us. we've got it already.

sick of these annoying fake reports.

seekingals.


i was in bj last friday staying in chaoyang near the embassies. as i was concerned that the party meeting would be putting a damper on the city and i have little experience in bj, i gave angel a call.

very simple to set up other than angel is a bit difficult to understand on the phone. i requested a cute girl that spoke some english, liked kissing and daty. angel said not problem, she new just the girl.

gave her my hotel info and 30 minutes later my doorbell rang. i looked out the peep hole and couldn't see anyone. opening the door, i saw the reason was the girl was well under 5'. she was the tiniest little spinner that looked very young. face was a 7, body was very skinny with b breasts. she spoke enough english to communicate. her name sounded like mone an (sic) , but i didn't really here it well and didn't think it was important.

off to the shower, into the bed, and angel had sent exactly what i requested.

2 hours later, we are laying in bed cuddling, she takes a shower, i pay her $600 and she is very happy.

i was very happy with the experience especially since i was concerned about services being restricted due to the party meeting. angel certainly delivered a girl that met the requirements i requested. i would have preferred a bigger girl that was a bit older and did not look like a teenager, but i didn't not communicate that so i certainly can't complain.

i will definitely use angel next time in bj.

uncle junior
i enjoyed 4 nights of having angel send girls to my hotel room recently. all would shower upon arriving to my room. i had already showered, so i don't know if they would have been okay with me joining them. first one was jing jing. 30ish, tall, pretty, great body, lite kissing only, but all the other things you would expect from an encounter. all girls were fine with whatever positions i wanted. no english, and she left immediately. second one not sure of the name, but very young and cute, just a little english but we used google translate to communicate a bit. third was mo cheng, a very cute girl of around 22. she was the most responsive person i've ever been with, she really seemed to be into it and enjoyed things as much as i did. her moaning in chinese during a long day session was a huge turn on. and unlike the other two, she didn't just leave when i finished, she cuddled for a good ten minutes or so before taking a shower and heading out. a total gfe. if only she spoke english i would have tried to get her to stay with me for the entire trip. repeated with her the next night and it was just as awesome except for getting busted going into my room with her by two older couple i had befriended earlier at the hotel bar. that was kind of embarrassing. i would have loved to hear what the wives said to the husbands after i closed the door to my room. the husbands must have been jealous she was so young and hot. amazing price. 600 rmb including taxi each night. i tipped mo cheng 200 rmb each night, which she appreciated. i probably should have given her more she was so good.

angel speaks good english and everything was very easy on me as somebody who can't speak chinese.

PuttPutt509
11-14-12, 13:18
Stop advertising yourself using different fake handles, Angel.

Do it 'Classified Ads' section.

We all know in Beijing there are some reliable outcall suppliers such as Kitty, Maria, and you to be an option for us. We've got it already.

Sick of these annoying fake reports.

Seekingals.Seekingals, you are mistaken about my report. It is not a fake. It was positive because I had a great experience, no other reason. Just sharing information. PM me if you want more details, but I am a fan of the service, but not a shill.

FunMan13
11-14-12, 15:33
Guys,

This girl sounds very good. But can you describe her? Height, face, chest, long or short hair? I am interested on certain types of girl. Thanks.

Funman.

Split
11-14-12, 15:36
When I was recently there, I'd swear Kitty and Maria were exactly the same women. Same level of English, exactly the same pronunciation and attitude. Same use of words in sentences too. I went with Lilly and Angel and it was clear to me they were different people answering.

Gualtier Malde
11-14-12, 16:58
I can report that in spite of this very special meeting of the Chinese leadership, WangJing 405 is going strong. Received fine service (fully delivered) by a very well endowed but shapely, girl-next-door-cute masseuse. She has a colorful tattoo on her belly, if others who frequent the place are interested. I didn't get her name / number.

Gave a reasonable massage too. Rooms are warm and most importantly for this level of service, clean. (My local village haunt is slightly cheaper, and my two favorite providers a lot more enthusiastic, but the place is filthy and cold. It's worth the few extra kuai for a clean bed and warm room.)

Those who don't know can search for Wang Jing New Town for more information. Very convenient to the Wang Jing subway station on Line 15.

GM.

Uncle Junior
11-15-12, 02:20
Two hours? Wow, they usually leave after one shot with me, and that seldom takes more than a half hour or so. Did you get multiple shots? Two hours for 600 RMB is amazing.Hi PP,

I did not get multiple shots and I did not try. We started with the shower, moved to the bed and made out, I went down on her and made her cum a few times, did some BBBJ, on went the condom and did her in two or three positions, which ws enjoyed by all. We were both pretty tired so we cuddled for awhile. Probably 15-20 minutes. She got up, went to the bathroom and showered and I paid her, gave her a kiss, and let her out.

That covered 2 hours.

Seeking Gals has accused me of being a schill, which I am not. I thought my post was helpful in that:

-It was during the party meeting and there was no difficulty in setting up a girl.

-I was very impressed by the experience for $600 RMB. In other similarly priced 1 shot deals, the girl is always rushing to be done, get paid, and get out, and that was not the case here at all.

For those of you that want to believe that this is a sincere post, I hope it provides useful information. For those that don't, no problem, just don't insult my integrity.

Uncle Junior

FreebieFan
11-15-12, 02:41
Ok so yesterday afternoon decided to check one of the dating sites that I frequent, and I had a message from a lady, aged 33 saying she was in Beijing, and was leaving the next day. Her pic was ok. That was all the message said. I politely replied and she sent me her QQ.

We chatted and had then we turned video on, she was same girl as in her dating site pic, and looked like a happy girl.

I asked her if she wanted dinner and she said yes. She sent me her hotel name and address of hotel in Haidan and her room number.

I asked for her phone number but she said it was off as she hadn't paid bill.

So a girl tells me her room number, has no mobile, hmm I have my scam alerts going but she seemed ok.

I went to hotel, which was one of many hotels by the highway in Haidan. Hotel isn't 5 star (big hotel, the type where guys smoke in elevator without batting an eyelid) , but it seemed ok. Go to room, and stand away from door in case there are guys inside etc. Only this happy girl in her pajamas. I walk in, check room is ok, no evidence of any guys etc.

We chat a bit (she was chatting in English on QQ but in reality she had 40 words of English and I have 40 words Mandarin. We go out for dinner, hotpot, have a few beers and before long hands are touching, hands on legs etc. It was all looking good.

Walk back to hotel, get some beers, check theres no guys following etc, get to room, drink, and of course we both end up in bed. Nice big boobs. Had one round then she suggests I leave. I was ok with that.

So, dinner cost RMB 221, plus taxis, and that was my cost. As I was leaving her room she wrote down her name, home phone number and her home town, of Zhang Jia Jie (which I've never heard of!). Maybe some other brothers here had her in previous nights as she was in Beijing for 4 nights. I think maybe she was just lonely and horny, who knows.

Anyways it was a nice interesting night. I'm sure now I have 3 days of bad luck as I clearly had some good luck last night. Oh, for those who think its a fake story, it was the Vienna hotel. Hotpot was Chan hotpot on same road. Condom was Durex. LOL.

Knobrm
11-15-12, 03:20
Have been in Beijing few days after quite while, and have been looking at old familiar places.

Went to WJ 405 based on comments on the board, however what I got was rather lame massage and HE, not even hint for anything more.

Wonder if it is only specific girls who give FS. And even decent HE as mine did not?

418 was going on as before, even some of the girls same as before. And the ex-417 no 16 as manager of some kind.

Tried to talk her over to service me for old times sake, however she did not budge. Girl who gave service was no 16 of their place,

Kind of a bit odd one. But service not too bad though.

Knob.


I can report that in spite of this very special meeting of the Chinese leadership, WangJing 405 is going strong. Received fine service (fully delivered) by a very well endowed but shapely, girl-next-door-cute masseuse. She has a colorful tattoo on her belly, if others who frequent the place are interested. I didn't get her name / number.

Gave a reasonable massage too. Rooms are warm and most importantly for this level of service, clean. (My local village haunt is slightly cheaper, and my two favorite providers a lot more enthusiastic, but the place is filthy and cold. It's worth the few extra kuai for a clean bed and warm room.)

Those who don't know can search for Wang Jing New Town for more information. Very convenient to the Wang Jing subway station on Line 15.

GM.

Vera Petrova
11-15-12, 09:50
When I was recently there, I'd swear Kitty and Maria were exactly the same women. Same level of English, exactly the same pronunciation and attitude. Same use of words in sentences too. I went with Lilly and Angel and it was clear to me they were different people answering.I had a strange experience with these outcall providers some time ago, which made me confused.

Got back to hotel around midnight and wasn't feeling so tired, so decided to call Lily. A woman answered and said something like being busy and asked me to call back in a moment, so I hung up. After couple of minutes I got a call from Lily's number, but I was kind of having second thoughts so I didn't answer.

Then came the strange thing, after two minutes my phone rang again, but this time the calling number was Suzie Wong which was mentioned in this forum before. I still didn't answer and after two minutes I got another call, this time from number was Angel.

So what does it mean? Are these outcall providers having some kind co-operation, or is it actually only one service provider with multiple identities, or what?

VP

Thomas Jefferson
11-15-12, 12:03
Oh, for those who think its a fake story, it was the Vienna hotel. Hotpot was Chan hotpot on same road. Condom was Durex. LOL.I never doubt your reports, thanks for them, very inspireing.

From my own experience I konw all your stories are true.

I try to follow your big footsteps since 2 years, and now being similar successfull in China as you are.

Unfortunately I am only a few weeks per year in China, which means some "pre"chatting work before leaving to China. But it is worth the work.

Successrate for Chinese girls is around 3 of 4, for philippine girls in Hong kong alomost 100.

Stayed in beijing last month for 1 week and met 5 girls in 7 days. One was just a nice dinner, she did not want go to any hotel,

The other 4 all ended up in my hotel for overnight. 2 of them cost me a dinner and a few drinks only.

The other 2 were repeats from last year, they came straight to my hotel and we never went out for dinner.

A bit of Chinese will help A LOT!

Thanks agian for your so many reports.

Thomas Jefferson

FreebieFan
11-16-12, 01:48
I never doubt your reports, thanks for them, very inspireing.

From my own experience I konw all your stories are true.

Thomas JeffersonThanks Sir. Today is looking good. Met a gal yesterday online, we texted and talked. 25, but maybe a bit chubby, not sure yet. I suggested we meet in Raffles city, she says "sure, then we can go to my place". Hmmm its usually me who says that line. LOL. Hopefully its all good.

Gualtier Malde
11-16-12, 04:19
Have been in Beijing few days after quite while, and have been looking at old familiar places.

Went to WJ 405 based on comments on the board, however what I got was rather lame massage and HE, not even hint for anything more.

Wonder if it is only specific girls who give FS. And even decent HE as mine did not?

Knob.My experience is that it is very rare that a massage girl will offer FS. Typically they will go right to a simple HE. I have found that you have to ask explicitly, and to some degree, insist. In fact my provider at 405 initially said no, she wanted to give me a HE. Then I persisted, so she said ok, then things were fine. I think for some it is defensive.

I've also found that in most parlors, not all the girls will offer happy services at all. And if it is your first visit, the mamasan or papasan may intentionally assign a non-happy provider to you. Some places require a little investment. My local village place was like that. I got a non-happy one first time, but got suggestive flirts from others I saw as I went in, so I went back a second time and picked one of the ones that flirted. Worked like a charm, and now the papasan knows me and is happy to see me.

GM.

Knobrm
11-17-12, 06:57
I see; I thought FS upsell would be SOPin 405 but seems not. Anybody have recommendations for girl numbers in

405 that are proven to perform OK FS?

I started to follow FreebieFans footsteps trying to probe if freebies will work. Got few chats initiated in WeChat now, some by girls some myself.

Later today will meet with one 25yr old for by firs WeChat blind date dinner, curious to see how it goes and if leads to anything or not.

Couple of days back in walked into a massgage place in Lido, appeared like a legit massage (which I wanted). Location just next to the Greenland Garden.

Entrance (if exit GL garden turn right on sidewalk, first massage place on the block). Went for oil massage. Not cheap, recall 188 or something like that per hour.

After 15min into massage the girl changed massage style to more touchy feely and started to ask if want special service. Did not expect actually.

I ask price, she say 300. Way too much I said, actually had not planned to get anything special. She continues her massage and trying to upsell at a bit.

Lower price but still too high. Hands shifting to groinds. OK I say, I give you 100RMB for special. She did not agree, but she was doing her job.

So well that we ended up agreeing to 150RMB tip for her for special. Yes expensive but she felt quite good in the job, and I thought lets give it a try.

Without going to details, she actually was very good in what she was doing. Glass door to corridor causing some distraction though as the place.

Was seemingly a legit place. I ended up extending my oily by half an hour and enjoy her treatment. Maybe best HJ ever I have got in BJ, at least

For years. Pricey though about 250 for oily and 150 tip to the girl. Regardless of very good service maybe no repeat as get FS at almost same price.

Knob.


My experience is that it is very rare that a massage girl will offer FS. Typically they will go right to a simple HE. I have found that you have to ask explicitly, and to some degree, insist. In fact my provider at 405 initially said no, she wanted to give me a HE. Then I persisted, so she said ok, then things were fine. I think for some it is defensive.

I've also found that in most parlors, not all the girls will offer happy services at all. And if it is your first visit, the mamasan or papasan may intentionally assign a non-happy provider to you. Some places require a little investment. My local village place was like that. I got a non-happy one first time, but got suggestive flirts from others I saw as I went in, so I went back a second time and picked one of the ones that flirted. Worked like a charm, and now the papasan knows me and is happy to see me.

GM.

FreebieFan
11-17-12, 11:02
Got chatting to one lady yesterday, and she's asking if I want a lover. She's past 35 but in good shape. Sent me pics of boobs, which hopefully were hers. We arranged a morning meet next week. I asked about her "arrangements". She's married to a local guy, got a European bf, just broke up with the spare bf so thats why so quick to arrange with me. And I thought I was a player.

Walking home from Sanlitun last night and must have walked past 20 black guys out walking by themself. Every single one offered me something by way of illegal substances. Don't they ever get caught?

Had a dinner last night with a girl I met / chatted with on QQ. And her husband. Both 30. Wasnt sure if it was going to lead to a 3some LOL, but no. Was a nice simple wholesome hotpot dinner. She said as I am new to Beijing she and hubby should treat me. Now thats hospitality at its best! Never met before and maybe never met again. They are some golden moments here to be had!

Gualtier Malde
11-19-12, 08:10
Got chatting to one lady yesterday, and she's asking if I want a lover. She's past 35 but in good shape. Sent me pics of boobs, which hopefully were hers. We arranged a morning meet next week. I asked about her "arrangements". She's married to a local guy, got a European bf, just broke up with the spare bf so thats why so quick to arrange with me. And I thought I was a player.

Walking home from Sanlitun last night and must have walked past 20 black guys out walking by themself. Every single one offered me something by way of illegal substances. Don't they ever get caught?

Had a dinner last night with a girl I met / chatted with on QQ. And her husband. Both 30. Wasnt sure if it was going to lead to a 3some LOL, but no. Was a nice simple wholesome hotpot dinner. She said as I am new to Beijing she and hubby should treat me. Now thats hospitality at its best! Never met before and maybe never met again. They are some golden moments here to be had!Before I came to China I would have never believed how many women here are players, either with or without their husbands' knowledge. I've had the opportunity to play with both types. In fact, I was just with one on Friday, invited to play with her by her husband. He observed but did not participate.

A few others I know just love screwing men. They can't get enough, so they play. Good for them!

I've thought about it a bit, and concluded that it isn't necessarily a cultural thing. It is just the pure numbers. If you think about how many people there are in this country, a small percentage of the women will either be players or seriously want to be players. While the percentage is small, it represents a lot of women, considering this is a country of over 1. 3 billion people.

So we get the benefit of large numbers. Sweet place to be!

GM.

Ps: I wouldn't completely discount the couple who fed you yet. Give them time.

Captain America
11-19-12, 11:18
HI all, so I RTFF, but can't find contact information for Angel, Maria or any of the other "reputable" out-call services. Where do I pick up that info?

Jude Bright
11-19-12, 13:23
HI all, so I RTFF, but can't find contact information for Angel, Maria or any of the other "reputable" out-call services. Where do I pick up that info?&12288; Just search this forum you will find the info you looking for.

Jb

GregoryB
11-19-12, 15:06
HI all, so I RTFF, but can't find contact information for Angel, Maria or any of the other "reputable" out-call services. Where do I pick up that info?HI, check your mailbox.

GregoryB

Knobrm
11-19-12, 15:10
Plenty of information in China Classifieds Ads section on Beijig providers.


HI all, so I RTFF, but can't find contact information for Angel, Maria or any of the other "reputable" out-call services. Where do I pick up that info?

UnoMas
11-19-12, 18:26
So I played around with Momo, WeChat, Tagged, and Badoo for a while. Seems like Badoo and Tagged are mostly for foreigners, though some 30 and up Chinese women are on there as well. Tagged in a spam-athon and doesn't work very well. The girls on Momo look like something from a cartoon. All of them are blinged out with makeup and charms and poses. It seems that most girls are between 18 and 24, and anyone above 30 looks 20 years older than their stated age. Some kind of cronological divide. Most girls seem to ignore requests, probably due to the age gap, but a few respond. For someone like myself in my mid-30s though, WeChat seems to most successful. It is not purely a dating app, and actually the dating funtionality is a side-feature, giving it legitimacy with the SO around. The problem is, all of these are location-based, and being a person who has lived in Beijing for several years, many of the girls I chat with turn out to be connected to me in one way or another. One knew some of my friends, and another remembered seeing me at an event. Too dangerous for my chicken-ass. I have friends that invite their mistresses to parties where their wife is in attendance, and I don't know how they keep their cool. I am a paranoid ninja with all of this, constantly analyzing every movement and scrap of potential evidence, plugging every potential leak. I think I'll have to stick to MPs for now unless on a business trip.

Loveasiangirls
11-19-12, 21:36
Before I came to China I would have never believed how many women here are players, either with or without their husbands' knowledge. I've had the opportunity to play with both types. In fact, I was just with one on Friday, invited to play with her by her husband. He observed but did not participate.

A few others I know just love screwing men. They can't get enough, so they play. Good for them!

I've thought about it a bit, and concluded that it isn't necessarily a cultural thing. It is just the pure numbers. If you think about how many people there are in this country, a small percentage of the women will either be players or seriously want to be players. While the percentage is small, it represents a lot of women, considering this is a country of over 1. 3 billion people.

So we get the benefit of large numbers. Sweet place to be!

GM.

Ps: I wouldn't completely discount the couple who fed you yet. Give them time.I agree with your theory about numbers. Just a lot more of everything as there are more people. One exception though, very very hard to find a bi-girl for a 3-some!

Zhallart
11-20-12, 00:27
HI, check your mailbox.

GregoryBHi,

How can I get their numbers?

Z

GregoryB
11-20-12, 09:14
Hi,

How can I get their numbers?

ZHi "Z" you must pay to be able for mails (PM) : Phone nrs only there.

In the meantime just go to.

"classifieds" forum and check for Angels or Kitty.

Gregory

Old South
11-20-12, 13:01
Hi,

How can I get their numbers?

ZWhat can be the problem? I also forgot their numbers and I went to classified and found both Lily and Angle in 30 less then a minute.

I was in BJ for just one day and I had one girl from Angel and one from Lily, both wonderful experience and the qulity of these two were above and beyond what I would normally get in BJ, what is happening here?

OS

Tors Ham
11-20-12, 13:24
I agree with your theory about numbers. Just a lot more of everything as there are more people. One exception though, very very hard to find a bi-girl for a 3-some!That theory I think is in some part correct but not 100.

As long as sex doesn't sell the same way it does in west, you probably have to wait before its common that girls accept to take it in the bum and so on and correct me if I am wrong, I don't think homosexuality is legal. Or is it? But if it isn't you know why you have problems finding, The most extreme I have seen lately years is ads for SM activity starts to pop up more and more in men spa clubs.

Years ago I was visiting a temple during some Chinese holiday (can't remember witch holyday or temple not that interested) that had a whole section dedicated to sexual activities. I think it was the source of the yin yang thing and that man who built the temple. The interesting thing there was that it was OK for women to have sex, much sex and reaching climax was a god thing for them while for men it was more restrictive to reach climax and it was according to what I understand not god for men's health to reach climax in the same level as women. Men were supposed to hold back as long as possible and there was documented different ways on how to do that. And if I don't remember wrong it was OK to have different sexual partners. I realized then that sex wasn't just only sex for them, it was an form of art and sexual positions was well documented not only as an art form but also why and what happen when using certain position, and how to stimulate women to reach their climax, how to stimulate men without reaching, and so on. Anyway that man lived a long life with his philosophy having a lot of different partners, not the reason he is famous but I figure that a lot of those things still live in the Chinese culture, Spa, sauna and the different ways they stimulate you during those sessions. I still have an inner picture of an old favorite sauna girl, she sometimes started the sessions with ripping down my pants and gave me a bbj and just when I was about to burst she stopped and sent me to the bath room, and the skills she had to keep me in the zone and playing with me just woow.

Someone wrote. What do I miss paying 1000-1500 for a session compared to 300, well nothing I guess if shooting the load is the only thing that cunts, but if you like the teas and pleas and the complete package, the feeling of being completely pampered and satisfied walking out from a god sauna / spa, well for me nothing beats that. And I think if you don't get the chance to experience a really god spa / sauna girl that knows her things then you missed Chinese sex culture at its best and what it is about.

I think the culture make Chinese more sexual liberated than we think, and the fact that most marriages is not based on love, its more networking with someone they like and have a family that creates a even bigger network for their family probably makes the sidesteps more acceptable. The inching feeling for each other is just not there.

So I don't think it's only the numbers that makes it, it's more to it than that. Personally I prefer the pros, they have a bigger skill set than normal girls and in the end I only have one goal. To get off their pants and I think p4p saves me valuable time and gives me the satisfaction I am after. But if I had more time, China is probably the easiest place to find freebes, in fact I have never hunted them, they have hunted me, the few ones I had, and I am far from Brad Pitt in looks.

Anyway I have 3 days in Beijing soon and a little update with god bars / clubs to visit if I want to chase FL girls, or what's hot and what's not at the moment, and if anyone has a god spa / sauna to recommend I am grateful.

Cheers

FreebieFan
11-21-12, 05:38
Met a lady for a morning session in a hotel. She had stated on her website she was 36, when we talked she became 38 "ish" and when we met she admitted that her 40th birthday had passed a "few" years before. Never mind, I'm not 21 either.

I think the one I'm meeting tomorrow night falls into the same category, but now I know, to draw the curtains a bit, so that " you look better in the moonlight honey ".

Where are the 20 year olds when you need them!

Gualtier Malde
11-21-12, 05:45
I agree with your theory about numbers. Just a lot more of everything as there are more people. One exception though, very very hard to find a bi-girl for a 3-some!I'm seeing one regularly, and I have another on chat (lives in Tianjin) who wants to try but has not yet had the chance. I'll be giving her that chance before long.

GM.

Gualtier Malde
11-21-12, 05:53
That theory I think is in some part correct but not 100.

Years ago I was visiting a temple during some Chinese holiday (can't remember witch holyday or temple not that interested) that had a whole section dedicated to sexual activities. I think it was the source of the yin yang thing and that man who built the temple. The interesting thing there was that it was OK for women to have sex, much sex and reaching climax was a god thing for them while for men it was more restrictive to reach climax and it was according to what I understand not god for men's health to reach climax in the same level as women. Men were supposed to hold back as long as possible and there was documented different ways on how to do that. And if I don't remember wrong it was OK to have different sexual partners. I realized then that sex wasn't just only sex for them, it was an form of art and sexual positions was well documented not only as an art form but also why and what happen when using certain position, and how to stimulate women to reach their climax, how to stimulate men without reaching, and so on. Anyway that man lived a long life with his philosophy having a lot of different partners, not the reason he is famous but I figure that a lot of those things still live in the Chinese culture, Spa, sauna and the different ways they stimulate you during those sessions.You are describing classic Daoism (Taoism). The original Dao philosophy was essentially as you describe above. The woman has Yin, the man has Yang. Bringing a woman to orgasm releases her Yin, which is healthy for a man to receive. Therefore, the Dao taught the man to bring the woman to several orgasms before experiencing his own. Dao was essentially a sexual philosophy that became a religion over the ages.


I think the culture make Chinese more sexual liberated than we think, and the fact that most marriages is not based on love, its more networking with someone they like and have a family that creates a even bigger network for their family probably makes the sidesteps more acceptable. The inching feeling for each other is just not there.Totally agree.

GM.

Loveasiangirls
11-21-12, 18:11
I'm seeing one regularly, and I have another on chat (lives in Tianjin) who wants to try but has not yet had the chance. I'll be giving her that chance before long.

GM.Yes, I have plenty of female friends or Gf who want to try but to find the 3rd is nearly impossible. Plenty of people looking on Craiglist as well.

Loveasiangirls
11-21-12, 18:14
That theory I think is in some part correct but not 100.

As long as sex doesn't sell the same way it does in west, you probably have to wait before its common that girls accept to take it in the bum and so on and correct me if I am wrong, I don't think homosexuality is legal. Or is it? But if it isn't you know why you have problems finding, The most extreme I have seen lately years is ads for SM activity starts to pop up more and more in men spa clubs.

Years ago I was visiting a temple during some Chinese holiday (can't remember witch holyday or temple not that interested) that had a whole section dedicated to sexual activities. I think it was the source of the yin yang thing and that man who built the temple. The interesting thing there was that it was OK for women to have sex, much sex and reaching climax was a god thing for them while for men it was more restrictive to reach climax and it was according to what I understand not god for men's health to reach climax in the same level as women. Men were supposed to hold back as long as possible and there was documented different ways on how to do that. And if I don't remember wrong it was OK to have different sexual partners. I realized then that sex wasn't just only sex for them, it was an form of art and sexual positions was well documented not only as an art form but also why and what happen when using certain position, and how to stimulate women to reach their climax, how to stimulate men without reaching, and so on. Anyway that man lived a long life with his philosophy having a lot of different partners, not the reason he is famous but I figure that a lot of those things still live in the Chinese culture, Spa, sauna and the different ways they stimulate you during those sessions. I still have an inner picture of an old favorite sauna girl, she sometimes started the sessions with ripping down my pants and gave me a bbj and just when I was about to burst she stopped and sent me to the bath room, and the skills she had to keep me in the zone and playing with me just woow.

Someone wrote. What do I miss paying 1000-1500 for a session compared to 300, well nothing I guess if shooting the load is the only thing that cunts, but if you like the teas and pleas and the complete package, the feeling of being completely pampered and satisfied walking out from a god sauna / spa, well for me nothing beats that. And I think if you don't get the chance to experience a really god spa / sauna girl that knows her things then you missed Chinese sex culture at its best and what it is about.

I think the culture make Chinese more sexual liberated than we think, and the fact that most marriages is not based on love, its more networking with someone they like and have a family that creates a even bigger network for their family probably makes the sidesteps more acceptable. The inching feeling for each other is just not there.

So I don't think it's only the numbers that makes it, it's more to it than that. Personally I prefer the pros, they have a bigger skill set than normal girls and in the end I only have one goal. To get off their pants and I think p4p saves me valuable time and gives me the satisfaction I am after. But if I had more time, China is probably the easiest place to find freebes, in fact I have never hunted them, they have hunted me, the few ones I had, and I am far from Brad Pitt in looks.

Anyway I have 3 days in Beijing soon and a little update with god bars / clubs to visit if I want to chase FL girls, or what's hot and what's not at the moment, and if anyone has a god spa / sauna to recommend I am grateful.

CheersHomosexuality is legal and there are several gay bars in BJ. A lot of things that you do not see as a tourist.

Tors Ham
11-22-12, 00:39
Homosexuality is legal and there are several gay bars in BJ. A lot of things that you do not see as a tourist.I know there are gay bars here and there in China, I have even encountered lady boys in remote places, I lived there for 5 years and I have spent at least 8- 9 of my last 15 there, just not been to in Beijing that often, haven't even seen the great wall after all this years, but a lot of other things, it doesn't make me an expert but I hope I have experienced a little bit more than the normal tourist at least. But I stand corrected, it was sodomy that was banned and that indirectly banns homosexuality at least among men, I don't think it was so long ago so I guess a lot of moral taboos exist even if the law allows it today, and a lot of Chinese still thinks it's banned, and I heard rumors about crackdowns in gay clubs true or not I don't know but I assumed that it was still banned then. But I guess somewhere here is reason why it's difficult to get some bi 3 some action and why it's so rare to see gay couples walking around, in time it will change to be more like the rest of the world I guess.

Cheers

Chris42
11-22-12, 12:48
All. I'd appreciate your help with this. I met a lady and we'd like to find a hotel / spa for some private time. This is not overnight. Just during the day.

Do you know any spa / hotel in Beijing (not too far from the CBD) that will rent a room without asking for my passport or her I'd?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Tony Knight
11-22-12, 23:35
http://www.sayoli.net/

This website came up as Lilly massage

FreebieFan
11-23-12, 04:57
Had a 40 year old from QQ on Wednesday am in Xidan.

Last night was a 42 year old from Tagged, who was in much much better body shape than the one from previous day, and who would have won gold for flexibilty if it was an Olympic sport. Total contortionist and loud with it.

Tonight is a 25 year old who just likes to be hugged as her clothes slowly fall off, then she will no doubt call me a badman for removing them when she " wasnt noticing". Slowly I'm getting the hang of Beijing.

Waldeck2
11-23-12, 08:18
One of you will have to show I'd. I have never had any exceptions to this rule. And don't be obvious when you arrive.


All. I'd appreciate your help with this. I met a lady and we'd like to find a hotel / spa for some private time. This is not overnight. Just during the day.

Do you know any spa / hotel in Beijing (not too far from the CBD) that will rent a room without asking for my passport or her I'd?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Nice Bip
11-23-12, 11:00
Had a 40 year old from QQ on Wednesday am in Xidan.

Last night was a 42 year old from Tagged, who was in much much better body shape than the one from previous day, and who would have won gold for flexibilty if it was an Olympic sport. Total contortionist and loud with it.

Tonight is a 25 year old who just likes to be hugged as her clothes slowly fall off, then she will no doubt call me a badman for removing them when she " wasnt noticing". Slowly I'm getting the hang of Beijing.Well, you really know "how to". Kudos!