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Hello,
I have been viewing this forum for awhile and I've decided to make a first post due to an AWFUL experience last night and I hope no one has to experience this in the future. However, I will share a good one as well. I read some of the posting guidelines so if I break a rule or offend someone please let me know, it is not my intention.
I am pretty much a rookie at "mongering" and I've learned a lot from this forum such as reading Sammy's basic guide and such. Being in Beijing for 9 months now, I've just started the mongering business a couple months ago because I recently moved closer to the center of the city.
A good experience I had is a girl I found either from this forum or through links after links. Anyways online. Her name is XiaoSi (&23567; &24605. And I called her one night to hook up and she was very patient with me from the beginning to the end. I first talked to her in Chinese (I am ABC) which made her a little uneasy, I think, so I switched right away to English. It was an in-call and she gave the taxi driver directions to her place and I eventually found it after a few calls to her since my sense of direction is horrible. It's near Sanlitun village and when I first got to her room we just chit chatted for a bit and I took a quick shower. She took probably about 15-20 minutes giving a nice massage and it didn't feel rushed at all. This was around 1 or 2 AM and we were chatting the entire time. Xiaosi has a nice face, nice body and a great personality. She is very kind, gentle and pretty much asked what I wanted. We started with a tit job then a BJ and then various positions, I forget all the names of it. I gave her 1000 in the end but at first she asked for 1500. I think it was a bit much and talked her down to it. Here is her phone number 1-358-182-1577, you can just say James referred you for the same price and she told me that she has many other friends (around 10?) and that she is also down for "4 hands." It's all negotiable.
Now last night I wanted to look for some fun so I rode my bicycle around the neighborhood looking for a BBS. I first arrived at a place that said "SPA" and I saw a pretty woman going into it so I just made an assumption. When I first got in, I was greeted by an older woman and I saw another younger pretty woman in a short skirt with very tight shorts, which is a pretty good sign. The older woman gave me a list of "massages" they do and first took me into a room and the younger woman came and asked me what I wanted. I asked if she had any other services in Chinese but she didn't really answer me and just pointed at a 138 RMB massage and said this is the most popular one. I don't really know if there is a key word or phrase to let them know what I want and at the same time I felt a bit awkward if I asked a little too directly. Either way, I just took the offer because it looked promising. She took me to an unlit room next and closed all the windows and asked me to take off my clothes and put on these disposable shorts. I left my boxers on again because those disposable shorts weren't that secured and I think they were see through and once again I didn't know if we were on the same page, per say. Now we began the massage and she was really professional it felt like. It felt like those professional foot massages but she was dressed all sexy. She even pulled my shorts down a bit where my ass crack was showing and massaged all around my thighs, my butt cheek while lying down. Then she had me turn over where I'm facing up and massaged my inner thigh and chests. After about an hour though, I thought there was something wrong because it was way too professional and she just told me times up and didn't offer me anything else. Now this was really puzzling for me. Is this just a kind of massage where young hot girls give you a nice rub but don't do anything else? Or maybe I didn't ask for the right thing and they didn't offer anything because I look really young even though I'm 25. I was really confused and left with a disappointment.
However, I was still determined and knew of another place. I live in Sihui East (&22235; &24800; &19996. In a small community called Si li Pu (&21313; &37324; &22561. On Chaoyang Road. Now I strongly discourage anybody going to this BBS. This BBS is very visible and it's on Chaoyang Road going east. Around Si li Pu there is an "ItoYokado" (Japanese supermarket called Hua tong &21326; &22530; in Chinese, most taxi drivers know it) and it's maybe 500 M after passing this market. It's bright neon pink lights and you can see girls sitting at the front. I first went in and the mamasan very old asked me Bao Jian in Chinese? I'm not sure what it meant but she just lead me to a room. Then another girl came to me and asked me what I wanted. 300 RMB for "the pao?" and 400RMB for fulls service. Now from what I read, this sounded like a rip off because all over the forums and online I've been seeing that it should be 100RMB for HJ and 200-300 for everything. However, I didn't haggle because it was still cheaper than the previous services I've paid for such as the one I mentioned earlier. This girl was all about business. Her face was okay maybe 6/10 and her body looked alright in a dress and in the dark. When I got in the room she just started to take off her underwear and told me to take everything off. Then I lied down facing up and she started stroking my P right away while playing with my nipples. I got a little hard and then she took out a condom and had such a lot of problems putting it on. I think these Chinese condoms are all mini sizes or something. Anyways she gave me a BJ next and I got a little harder and then I went inside her. I was on top for a few minutes but I asked her for different positions and she wouldn't do it. She doesn't look as good now and she had 2 or 3 rolls on her stomach which was a turn off. She wouldn't do anything, just laid there like a plant making fake moans. Soon enough, I hear mamasan say "times up" or something in Chinese and it's been like 10 minutes. She told me hurry up but by this time I pretty much lost interest and wasn't even hard anymore. I told her, I wasn't aware of a time limit and she said of course there's a time limit. I told her you didn't indicate it in the beginning and she said the samething. She said most men just come in here and 5 or 6 minutes they will be done and said that how long do I expect? I just answered till I finish but she continued to make up reasons after reasons. Being unreasonable and illogical. I kept point out the fact she never mentioned a time prior and she says everyone knows there is a time limit. But I told her it's only been like 10 minutes and she didn't care. I told her just to finish the service please and she continued to stroke my penis. However, she just couldn't get it hard anymore after continuous arguments. She said mamasan is going to deduct her bill if I don't finish fast and just a bunch of BULLS*T. After another 5 or 10 minutes of attempting to get me hard, I just said forget it, I'll do it myself. So I pretty much masterbated in front of her while she just touched my different body parts and finished up. It was really disappointing and during the entire process it just felt like an argument. I guess this is a disadvantage for looking young and Chinese. Two busts in a night, is just horrible.
Anyways, it's a long post, sorry. If any more experienced members can give me advice such as if the prices were reasonable, what I should've done, ect, I will really appreciate it. If anyone has any additional questions about the girl XiaoSI I mentioned or where this BBS is please feel free to PM too. Lastly, does anyone know any other places around SiHui or Sihui Dong? I'm mainly looking for a cheaper way for the full package and don't prefer outcalls. If anyone is down to go hunting, I am up for it too! Hope this post helped.I called XiaoSi for a massage; she arrived within 30 minutes dressed in jeans, shirt and red leather blouson. The fee was 300 for a 60 minute massage. Taxi: 50. I thought that it was included.
She asked to change to a light robe; and started the massage. Okay. But nothing to write home to. After the back massage; turn around; she asked if I wanted something more; quoting 300 for HJ; 1000 for FS but not today, because I still have my period she said. I declined. Jet lagged, tired.
When the massage was over and she was to change, I asked to "see" her naked; she just allowed a quick glimpse. A perfect pair of boos. I might have gone for a HJ had she shown them before.
All in all, a so-so massage experience.
A question to our seniors. How would this 1000RMB extra for FS (total 1350 RMB) compare with the 600RMB FS with Angel outcall? Why would one go with XiaoSi?
Called Angel late yesterday night. Mary is available; you can see her on my website. After several SMS exchanges, agreeing on 600 RMB all inclusive; BBBJ. MPOS. MSOG. DFK; she arrived in the lobby 30 minutes later as mentioned. Well dressed; pretty. Some pimples on face. Ok.
As soon as we got in the room, Mary too off her clothes and went for the shower; I joined in. She cleans herself very well. Smooth skin, pleasant to touch; boobs soft and saggy.
On to bed, she starts kissing my nipples, carressing my dick; got it hard; nice BBBJ all the time subtly avoiding to be touched. Good wet BJ (pressure, pace, hand and mouth: perfect) for 5-10 minutes. I want it inside me. Cover it, and rode it CG so well I came in less than 10 minutes. Good position: 2 hands, one knee and the other foot on the bed; no pressure on my body; all sensations concentrated on dick in pussy; good slowly start and acceletating smooth pace.
So far so good; she disembark; took the condom off; went to the toilet to wash. Came back to the room and started to dress. WTF only 25 minutes spent. When she saw that I looked annoyed, she came back to bed in her bra & panties, laid down but with no signs of wanting to get into a 2nd round. After 2-3 minutes she asked: can I go now? Finish dress; thank you, good bye.
Summary: 6 (face).5 (body: saggy boobs).5 (service: 35 minutes from arrival to departure; no full-hour; no MSOG)
FernandoAlonso
11-25-12, 10:13
Called Angel late yesterday night. Mary is available; you can see her on my website. After several SMS exchanges, agreeing on 600 RMB all inclusive; BBBJ. MPOS. MSOG.Mate,
You had the experience about 90% give or take of these girls give. It is 1 hour or one pop whatever comes first. Call yourself lucky she did not encourage you all the time to come faster.
Outcall sucks most of the time allover the world. There may or may not be exceptions in Beijing but who believes this glorious reports here are all true, well deserved. This was not personal to you by the way. Sorry it did not go better and kudos you had the guts to tell a not so great story, this rarrely happens.
Just one question, why is Mary on your website? I had expected a raving positive report after this opening? Typo?
Better luck next time.
FA
FreebieFan
11-25-12, 14:40
Well, you really know "how to". Kudos!Thanks, actually although it sounds quite strange, having spent all Friday night and Saturday with the 3rd girl who was 25, (with a very hairy Bush that she at least let me "trim",) I got home on Saturday night thinking about a a few beers and the TV. I was shagged out.
But my long time tease friend, who I had never yet shagged (but had dated many times) , called and asked if it was ok could we meet later on Saturday night as she was upset and lonely.
Sure, Freebie to the rescue.
Had her in my place within an hour, and after a nice hot bath together we went at it, and stayed at it, for a large part of Sunday. Thankfully theres no more on the menu so having done 4 in 4 nights I'm off for a long rest.
Called Angel late yesterday night. Mary is available; you can see her on my website. After several SMS exchanges, agreeing on 600 RMB all inclusive; BBBJ. MPOS. MSOG. DFK; she arrived in the lobby 30 minutes later as mentioned. Well dressed; pretty. Some pimples on face. Ok.So a general question to you all. Do you use these acronyms directly (e. G. MSOG) when negotiating, or do you have to describe what you want to get the idea across?
Gualtier Malde
11-27-12, 09:10
A question to our seniors. How would this 1000RMB extra for FS (total 1350 RMB) compare with the 600RMB FS with Angel outcall? Why would one go with XiaoSi?Unfavorably, of course. You're paying more than double for the same (or worse) service. Why would one go with XiaoSi? Because one doesn't know better, and one doesn't RTFF.
GM.
Seekingals
11-27-12, 09:19
Mate,
You had the experience about 90% give or take of these girls give. It is 1 hour or one pop whatever comes first. Call yourself lucky she did not encourage you all the time to come faster.
Outcall sucks most of the time allover the world. There may or may not be exceptions in Beijing but who believes this glorious reports here are all true, well deserved. This was not personal to you by the way. Sorry it did not go better and kudos you had the guts to tell a not so great story, this rarrely happens.
Just one question, why is Mary on your website? I had expected a raving positive report after this opening? Typo?
Better luck next time.
FARelatively, outcall is a good option especially in Beijing. But I'm sick of these annoying fake reports given by these outcall suppliers themselves promoting themselves, especially those of Angel using different handles.
Called Angel late yesterday night. Mary is available; you can see her on my website. After several SMS exchanges, agreeing on 600 RMB all inclusive; BBBJ. MPOS. MSOG. DFK; she arrived in the lobby 30 minutes later as mentioned. Well dressed; pretty. Some pimples on face. Ok.
As soon as we got in the room, Mary too off her clothes and went for the shower; I joined in. She cleans herself very well. Smooth skin, pleasant to touch; boobs soft and saggy.
On to bed, she starts kissing my nipples, carressing my dick; got it hard; nice BBBJ all the time subtly avoiding to be touched. Good wet BJ (pressure, pace, hand and mouth: perfect) for 5-10 minutes. I want it inside me. Cover it, and rode it CG so well I came in less than 10 minutes. Good position: 2 hands, one knee and the other foot on the bed; no pressure on my body; all sensations concentrated on dick in pussy; good slowly start and acceletating smooth pace.
So far so good; she disembark; took the condom off; went to the toilet to wash. Came back to the room and started to dress. WTF only 25 minutes spent. When she saw that I looked annoyed, she came back to bed in her bra & panties, laid down but with no signs of wanting to get into a 2nd round. After 2-3 minutes she asked: can I go now? Finish dress; thank you, good bye.
Summary: 6 (face).5 (body: saggy boobs).5 (service: 35 minutes from arrival to departure; no full-hour; no MSOG) You're telling a not so great, but not so bad story. I think it's your true story, not a fake one. Thanks.
Seekingals
11-27-12, 09:28
So who are you? A fake guy, or this supplier itself you're advertising?
I'm seeing one regularly, and I have another on chat (lives in beijing) who wants to try but has not yet had the chance. I'll be giving her that chance before long.
http://www.vipchinaescort.com/china/beijing
This website came up as VIP China escort girls
Met a lady for a morning session in a hotel. She had stated on her website she was 26,
I think the one I'm meeting tomorrow night falls into the same category, but now I know, to draw the curtains a bit, so that " you look better in the moonlight honey ".
http://www.vipchinaescort.com/beijing/i-am-girl-you-dream
Hello gentleman, I'm Gina. 167cm. 23yrs old. 55kg, and black hair with curvy body. Clients describe me as young, healthy, slender, elegant, attractive, clean, and lovely. I do think communication is quite important during the massage process thus I am quite good at communicating with customer and let them fully enjoy my massage. My massage is soft, sensuous and smooth. Need tender hands to relive your stress? I am your best choice and you will come back after you have enjoyed my service. My rate of oil massage is 300rmb per hour (plus taxi fee). I can provide excellent service at your apartment or hotel. For an appointment please call my mobile: 139-1697-6584.
http://www.vipchinaescort.com/beijing/great-massage-will-give-relaxing-and-passionate-feeling
Can anyone tell me any massage / spa buildings that WILL have a high chance of a Happy Ending? I have been to a couple of places which I felt would offer one when having a massage, but nothing has happened and I am fed up of hunting. I am not talking about the little Pink Light Parlors, I am referring to some place that looks legit but in fact has a sneaky extra to it. I communicate in Chinese and as I am new to this I am unwise if there is any code words that the masseuse will drop in or if they are full on touch the dick to let you know. Guys any places you can recommend within the 2nd and 3rd East Ring Road area?
Mate,
You had the experience about 90% give or take of these girls give. It is 1 hour or one pop whatever comes first. Call yourself lucky she did not encourage you all the time to come faster. Outcall sucks most of the time allover the world.
FASo sad for BJ; I come from Montreal. Most of the "respectable" outcalls provide the full hour; multiple shots. I like to come fast a first shot; and take my time for the second. With lots of encouragement from the girl: clean your dick with a hot towel, cuddle, carress. To prepare for a good second.
There may or may not be exceptions in Beijing but who believes this glorious reports here are all true, well deserved. This was not personal to you by the way. Sorry it did not go better and kudos you had the guts to tell a not so great story, this rarely happens.
FAI wanted to share the not-so-great experience so that others would not fall into the same bad experience. I like to hear a about good report of good girls; but when the performance is sub-standard, I would like to know about; and that is why I am sharing my bad experience.
Just one question, why is Mary on your website? I had expected a raving positive report after this opening? Typo?
FAMary is the last girl on Angel website. To Angel credit: I did mention my "dissatisfaction" to her; she apologized and promised to do better next time with he recommendation.
Unfavorably, of course. You're paying more than double for the same (or worse) service. Why would one go with XiaoSi? Because one doesn't know better, and one doesn't RTFF.
GM.That is what I thought too; thank you for your confirmation.
So a general question to you all. Do you use these acronyms directly (e. G. MSOG) when negotiating, or do you have to describe what you want to get the idea across?I did txt Angel these when we were negotiating; she did not understand the acronyms the first time; I sent her the translation. Later when I sent it back to her saying this is what was agreed, she txt'd back to say that she may have missed this txt. (sic). With her gracious apologies though. I am weak with girls; so it is all forgotten.
I like everything to be clear upfront; I expect that they keep their end of the "contract". I does not happen all the time. Unfortunately.
Moistureman
11-27-12, 15:57
After seeing reviews I decided to plunge in and try out Kitty's. Connection was easy enough, a phone call for the arrangement then an hour letter she shows up. Yuan (or Yuen) A petite, slim and beautiful girl. She seemed nervous at first and so I tried making small talk. She spoke good English but kept asking me if kitty gave me info about her (she didn't)
She asked to take a shower and so she did and came out with a towel around Eric chest and jumped to bed. I lay down ext to Eric, she grabbed me and tried to put the condom on. I slowed her down, wanting to do some foreplay first but she did not kiss no DATY (I tried but it was not smelling fresh) and a mediocre BBBJ. So on top I go and just pounded away and finished. Total time elapsed was 25 minutes. No seconds, and she got dressed right away. So I was disappointed to say the least, paid her 500 + 100 taxi, then she had the nerve to ask for a tip. I told her the ad at the website said no tips required, she stared at me unbelievingly but I did not budge and so off she goes. She pauses at the door and said she'll give me her phone number if want to hook up again later. I passed.
Bad Boy Billy
11-27-12, 22:02
Total time elapsed was 25 minutes. No seconds, and she got dressed right away. So I was disappointed to say the least, paid her 500 + 100 taxi, then she had the nerve to ask for a tip. I told her the ad at the website said no tips required, she stared at me unbelievingly but I did not budge and so off she goes. She pauses at the door and said she'll give me her phone number if want to hook up again later. I passed.About standard fare for ALL outcalls from these dodgy suppliers.
Good part you were honest unlike all the other posters who post fake reports OR who are so ignorant of the whole mongering scene that they think these second and third rate performances are acceptable.
Solution: Don't fall for the outcall service. Plenty girls out in the bars who will provide 'quality' service. Just don't be lazy and get out and seek out instead.
Can anyone tell me any massage / spa buildings that WILL have a high chance of a Happy Ending? I have been to a couple of places which I felt would offer one when having a massage, but nothing has happened and I am fed up of hunting. I am not talking about the little Pink Light Parlors, I am referring to some place that looks legit but in fact has a sneaky extra to it. I communicate in Chinese and as I am new to this I am unwise if there is any code words that the masseuse will drop in or if they are full on touch the dick to let you know. Guys any places you can recommend within the 2nd and 3rd East Ring Road area?______________________.
If you PM me I can let you now my favorite place near Gumao Center
Crossing on Guanghua Lu / Dongdaoqiao (?) near Jong Anli Station of Line1.
Very clean, only small tip on top handed out directly.
Gregory
Near Hua Lian shopping mall on Guangshun S. Road and Wal-Mart, Wangjing Xin Cheng, or "Wangjing New City" has at least 4 parts. No. 4 area= buildings with numbers in the 400s, Area 3 has buildings in the 300s. Two of my current favorite Wangjing Xincheng massage places are building Nos. 325 & 303. Both are near North Gate of Area 3 (san qu) Both have a mix of girls that are usually pretty good and occasionally some stunners. It is not uncommon that other services beyond simple massage (breast massage / FS) are offered, but it depends on the girl. Much higher chance of special services if you do outcall with these places after you know the girl.
325: this building has 2 main entrances, go to the entrance to on right side as you face building. (Closest entrance to Gate) The place is right in lobby as you walk in, just to the left side. No. 9 is quite pretty and sweet. No 19 cute and frisky.
303: close by to 325, near Communications Bank. No. 18 is a beauty and playful.
______________________.
If you PM me I can let you now my favorite place near Gumao Center
Crossing on Guanghua Lu / Dongdaoqiao (?) near Jong Anli Station of Line1.
Very clean, only small tip on top handed out directly.
GregoryI not sure how to PM you as I am new to this and am not a full member. I am guessing the Guanghua Lu / DongDaQioa MP is the one which has a nice sign but is also small on the outside? The Guo Mao center one. Can there be a way you can give me a mispelled name so I can read it here on the forum?
Gummibaerchen
11-28-12, 15:31
After seeing reviews I decided to plunge in and try out Kitty's. Connection was easy enough, a phone call for the arrangement then an hour letter she shows up. Yuan (or Yuen) A petite, slim and beautiful girl. She seemed nervous at first and so I tried making small talk. She spoke good English but kept asking me if kitty gave me info about her (she didn't)
She asked to take a shower and so she did and came out with a towel around Eric chest and jumped to bed. I lay down ext to Eric, she grabbed me and tried to put the condom on. I slowed her down, wanting to do some foreplay first but she did not kiss no DATY (I tried but it was not smelling fresh) and a mediocre BBBJ. So on top I go and just pounded away and finished. Total time elapsed was 25 minutes. No seconds, and she got dressed right away. So I was disappointed to say the least, paid her 500 + 100 taxi, then she had the nerve to ask for a tip. I told her the ad at the website said no tips required, she stared at me unbelievingly but I did not budge and so off she goes. She pauses at the door and said she'll give me her phone number if want to hook up again later. I passed.Ah well, those outcalls. Believe it or not, I just got the very same girl from 2 different providers, Kitty and Maria. Doesn't necessarily mean both are the same but at least they share some common girls.
And what's really sad: the whole thing wasn't very much a GFE. The first time it took like 15 minutes altogether. Undress. 1 minute foreplay, do the deed, quick wash and off she went.
A week later the seccond time in a different hotel. When she rang at the door I was quite surprized to see a familiar face using a different provider. She was obviously also very surprized but didn't say anything. I didn't either. I know, I should've asked to change, but there I was: horny with a girl at the door and curious how it would play out this time. To make it short: she took a little bit more time and was a little bit more passionate. 20 to 25 minutes maybe. And then she insisted it would be 700 yuan.
Maybe I try another girl or provider next time. Already had a better experience with one of Angel's girls. Or maybe leave all that if there is not enough time to try the bars.
I not sure how to PM you as I am new to this and am not a full member. I am guessing the Guanghua Lu / DongDaQioa MP is the one which has a nice sign but is also small on the outside? The Guo Mao center one. Can there be a way you can give me a mispelled name so I can read it here on the forum?If you know the Soho building with the round windows.
Enter it and take the escalator to first floor in the corner near the escalator there is the SPA
If you pay around 15€, $ membership.
You can PM freely. I guarantee it pays.
Seekingals
11-29-12, 03:27
Ah well, those outcalls. Believe it or not, I just got the very same girl from 2 different providers, Kitty and Maria. Doesn't necessarily mean both are the same but at least they share some common girls.
And what's really sad: the whole thing wasn't very much a GFE. The first time it took like 15 minutes altogether. Undress. 1 minute foreplay, do the deed, quick wash and off she went.
A week later the seccond time in a different hotel. When she rang at the door I was quite surprized to see a familiar face using a different provider. She was obviously also very surprized but didn't say anything. I didn't either. I know, I should've asked to change, but there I was: horny with a girl at the door and curious how it would play out this time. To make it short: she took a little bit more time and was a little bit more passionate. 20 to 25 minutes maybe. And then she insisted it would be 700 yuan.
Maybe I try another girl or provider next time. Already had a better experience with one of Angel's girls. Or maybe leave all that if there is not enough time to try the bars.Stop talking about your outcalls using different handles here, Angel. Do it 'Classified Ads' section if you'd like to.
I had a strange experience with these outcall providers some time ago, which made me confused.
Got back to hotel around midnight and wasn't feeling so tired, so decided to call Lily. A woman answered and said something like being busy and asked me to call back in a moment, so I hung up. After couple of minutes I got a call from Lily's number, but I was kind of having second thoughts so I didn't answer.
Then came the strange thing, after two minutes my phone rang again, but this time the calling number was Suzie Wong which was mentioned in this forum before. I still didn't answer and after two minutes I got another call, this time from number was Angel.
So what does it mean? Are these outcall providers having some kind co-operation, or is it actually only one service provider with multiple identities, or what?
VPThat's because all these different phone numbers. Lily's, Angel's, Suzie Wong's. Were sometimes re-routed automatically to a single number for some reason. In this case, 'she' did not know exactly which number you called. That's why when you didn't answer Lily's phone call, 'she' will call you back again using Angel's number, and did it again using Suzie Wong's number. Sounds kinda dramatic.
ChinBro
So sad for BJ; I come from Montreal. Most of the "respectable" outcalls provide the full hour; multiple shots. I like to come fast a first shot; and take my time for the second. With lots of encouragement from the girl: clean your dick with a hot towel, cuddle, carress. To prepare for a good second.Unfortunately, this is Beijing. Any outcalls, even the most 'respectable' who provide multiple shots service only charging RMB 600 taxi fare inclusive? Never heard of that.
For enable PM click on "Front Page" look on the left hand side, go down to the line "subscription":
If you pay by credit card you will get access almost immediately to PM. It also tells you how to avoid.
"telling" booking informations.
Enjoy ISG its really very informative in spite of some talkative guys in the Forums.
Gregory.
P. S.
(sometimes its still funny to read their world views or offenses to other brothers. But don't take it serious,
Although I am more interested in straight forward directions and advices without having to read someones.
Philosophies. Hahah)
I not sure how to PM you as I am new to this and am not a full member. I am guessing the Guanghua Lu / DongDaQioa MP is the one which has a nice sign but is also small on the outside? The Guo Mao center one. Can there be a way you can give me a mispelled name so I can read it here on the forum?
Gummibaerchen
11-29-12, 11:42
Stop talking about your outcalls using different handles here, Angel. Do it 'Classified Ads' section if you'd like to.Did that really sound so overwhelmingly positive to suspect a fake handle? Impressive.
After all I tried it again with an afternoon session of an unnamed outcall. Looks wasn't great but the attitude was ok. But then again she tried to convince me, that it would be 700 RMB, even though it was clearly stated 600. Seems like everyone tries to get those 100 extra using various excuses.
Conclusion for me is that outcalls are hit and miss. Mostly the latter. Barely worth trying, unless you really don't want to leave the hotel and invest some time.
Seekingals
11-30-12, 07:13
I had a strange experience with these outcall providers some time ago, which made me confused.
Got back to hotel around midnight and wasn't feeling so tired, so decided to call Lily. A woman answered and said something like being busy and asked me to call back in a moment, so I hung up. After couple of minutes I got a call from Lily's number, but I was kind of having second thoughts so I didn't answer.
Then came the strange thing, after two minutes my phone rang again, but this time the calling number was Suzie Wong which was mentioned in this forum before. I still didn't answer and after two minutes I got another call, this time from number was Angel.
So what does it mean? Are these outcall providers having some kind co-operation, or is it actually only one service provider with multiple identities, or what?
VP
That's because all these different phone numbers. Lily's, Angel's, Suzie Wong's. Were sometimes re-routed automatically to a single number for some reason. In this case, 'she' did not know exactly which number you called. That's why when you didn't answer Lily's phone call, 'she' will call you back again using Angel's number, and did it again using Suzie Wong's number. Sounds kinda dramatic.
ChinBroAngel sucks. Not only has she been using different kinds of fake handles writing all kinds of fake reports for herself, but she has been using other supplier names and phone numbers such as Lily, Suzie Wong fooling us as well. Really be sick of that.
Seekingals
I spent some time in Beijing and tried both Angel and Kitty, Angel few times and Kitty twice. I have no idea whether these two providers are the same or not, but my experience was that Kitty is totally not reliable, and Angel is reasonably OK esp after using her few times.
Kitty's problem is that the girl that actually comes does not resemble at all the descrption (age, name, dimensions) as discussed on the phone. I only used twice for that reason I. E totally no customer service attitude, just take the money and run approach. Both cases the same.
Angel maybe not perfect either, however esp after couple of times of using here, and clear upfront statement that if girl does not match the description, I will send the gilr back seemed to create a bit of repeat customer respect. Couple of times she even said she do not have girls that meet the spec / expectation and recommended to try next day instead. Or if known weaknesses, she share those upfront so that customer could choose to take or not to take the risk.
But at the end I think it is still fair to say these are hit an miss.
Knob.
Angel sucks. Not only has she been using different kinds of fake handles writing all kinds of fake reports for herself, but she has been using other supplier names and phone numbers such as Lily, Suzie Wong fooling us as well. Really be sick of that.
Seekingals
I spent some time in Beijing and tried both Angel and Kitty, Angel few times and Kitty twice. I have no idea whether these two providers are the same or not, but my experience was that Kitty is totally not reliable, and Angel is reasonably OK esp after using her few times.
Kitty's problem is that the girl that actually comes does not resemble at all the descrption (age, name, dimensions) as discussed on the phone. I only used twice for that reason I. E totally no customer service attitude, just take the money and run approach. Both cases the same.
Angel maybe not perfect either, however esp after couple of times of using here, and clear upfront statement that if girl does not match the description, I will send the gilr back seemed to create a bit of repeat customer respect. Couple of times she even said she do not have girls that meet the spec / expectation and recommended to try next day instead. Or if known weaknesses, she share those upfront so that customer could choose to take or not to take the risk.
But at the end I think it is still fair to say these are hit an miss.
Knob.Outcalls is just another option for us other than bar scene, BBS / MP scene, etc. Those guys need it who come over here just for a short stay, or have no time, or be tired or lazy enough to hang out for a freelance.
But my experiences turned out to be very different from yours. So far, I still consider Kitty as the most reliable supplier. Every time I SMS'd her my requirements beforehand and every time got what I wanted, at lease broadly.
Despite this, it's fair to say outcalls is hit and miss.
Just my two cents.
ChinBro
As mentioned by number of people on the board, WangJing 400's are a safe bet. 418 and 419 100% chance (statistically valid personal experience.) .405 I think the same.
Some exceptions may happen during crackdowns, but those are usually made clear when going in (if any). My experience of service quality is most positive for 418.
Recently I tried couple of times the massage places in Maizidian street, in the building where Schindlers meat shop and new April Gourmet is, opposite to the second hand / grey market building. The street that goes from behind GW Sheraton to Solana, close to Solana end of the street. Sampling limited, but out of the two places I randomly tried, both offered HE.
505 90min oily 240 so not very cheap (but good massgage actually) , girl asking some stupid numbers for HE intially but we settled for 50 tip (girl no 31). The other place was 609 "Sakura massage"; oily on sale 130/60min 200/90min. Actual massage not really a massgae. 20min into massage that from get-go was hinting extra svc she started to pitch special. After some talk we settled to 200 total. She at least tried to create impression that she did not want manager to know she offered special, not sure if act or real. Anyway settled for 200 for one our incl HE. Girl no 1. A bit rush but not too bad. Had to slow down her a bit to get quality service.
In the same building many other massgae places and I can only assume same game in others. Convenient location to downtown vs WangJing, for me personally it was short walking distance.
But price higher than WJ. Will try other places when can.
Knob.
Can anyone tell me any massage / spa buildings that WILL have a high chance of a Happy Ending? I have been to a couple of places which I felt would offer one when having a massage, but nothing has happened and I am fed up of hunting. I am not talking about the little Pink Light Parlors, I am referring to some place that looks legit but in fact has a sneaky extra to it. I communicate in Chinese and as I am new to this I am unwise if there is any code words that the masseuse will drop in or if they are full on touch the dick to let you know. Guys any places you can recommend within the 2nd and 3rd East Ring Road area?
PuttPutt509
12-02-12, 03:29
Angel sucks. Not only has she been using different kinds of fake handles writing all kinds of fake reports for herself, but she has been using other supplier names and phone numbers such as Lily, Suzie Wong fooling us as well. Really be sick of that.
Seekingals
Stop talking about your outcalls using different handles here, Angel. Do it 'Classified Ads' section if you'd like to. Seekingals
Relatively, outcall is a good option especially in Beijing. But I'm sick of these annoying fake reports given by these outcall suppliers themselves promoting themselves, especially those of Angel using different handles.
Stop advertising yourself using different fake handles, Angel.
Do it 'Classified Ads' section. Seekingals
We all know in Beijing there are some reliable outcall suppliers such as Kitty, Maria, and you to be an option for us. We've got it already.
Sick of these annoying fake reports. SeekingalsThese are the last few posts from Seekinggals, all attacking people who had a good experience with Angel. If you look at the last posts before these, Seekingals is posting positive experiences about Kitty. Take these attacks for what they are. Shilling for another OKT. I won't say this is Kitty, I have no idea. But somebody who attacks others who report good experiences with Kitty's competitors is very suspicious. Just report your activities, don't attack others who tell about theirs.
FreebieFan
12-02-12, 03:48
Being new to this cold weather environment I'm trying to assess whether the cooler weather makes me more horny or not. It certainly seems to make having a naked gal in a hot bed all more delightful.
Was with a lady Friday who was 27, with a pretty face (cold sores on lips to. Noticed lots of these too) , but a very large rear adn a bit of extra padding round the middle. She suggested to go to my place after dinner and drinks but freebie wasnt really interereted in a pork chop so declined.
However Saturday met a 20 year old from a dating site, bit shy, bit quirky and lovely and slim (later we checked. 43kgs). Turned up wearing very thin coat and tshirt. Girl must have been very cold. Anyways she was happily invited, and acepted the invite home. One glass of wine and she was the oppostite of shy. She's clearly in the front of Chinas female revolution, as she also happily let me shave her. I hope to meet many more like this! Sweet girl who I hope shall become a repeater!
In the middle of moving to Beijing, I decided to check how Maggie's is nowadays. Even though it was about 10pm in Saturday night, the bar was quiet. About 15-20 girls, and most of them worked for the bar, that is, they charge you if you chat with them, and you cannot (usually) take them out. Only few working girls and no Mongolians. This was definitely a better place 5y back when I visited here last time.
I took Gin & Tonic, chatted with some girls and then it was enough for me.
I guess Lido, and Hyatt bar are the same. Anybody, any recent experiences?
two weeks ago maggie's was a success for me.
first time ever i found some "doable" girls in maggie's (even if i don't know now whether some was only "drinking" girls).
thanks to a german monger-buddy, who matched me with a mongolian beauty, i spend a memorable night (about which i even will tell my grandsons some day).
girl was a little tipsy and was a bundle of fun in the hotel room. her asking price was 1500 rmb for whole night.
after my daty she was so astonished about her own juices coming out of her pussy that she constantly touched her pussy to check the "water" and even smelled on it to check whether it was [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) or what. i really don't know why a 24 year old girl, who had a korean boyfriend for long time, can be so ignorant when it comes to sexual things.
anyway, i really liked it and i definitely come back to maggie's next time.
have fun.
captain b.
Business Class
12-02-12, 14:53
In the middle of moving to Beijing, I decided to check how Maggie's is nowadays. Even though it was about 10pm in Saturday night, the bar was quiet. About 15-20 girls, and most of them worked for the bar, that is, they charge you if you chat with them, and you cannot (usually) take them out. Only few working girls and no Mongolians. This was definitely a better place 5y back when I visited here last time.
I took Gin & Tonic, chatted with some girls and then it was enough for me.
I guess Lido, and Hyatt bar are the same. Anybody, any recent experiences?It's the same for me. Used to go to Maggie's in its hey days. But these days, it's exactly as you described. I used to have my circle of "friends" I always hung out with. We would have dinners together, drink, and even hang out at there hangouts when they weren't working. They're all globe now. But at least I met someone who remembered the old crew, and now she's my new regular. In fact, I'm waiting for her as I type this.
If you hang around long enough, you'll occasionally find a diamond in the rough. I've noticed that they show up later these days. I don't know about Lido, but pkan to swing by there one of these days. I doubt its what it used to be back in the day.
BC
Business Class
12-02-12, 15:02
These are the last few posts from Seekinggals, all attacking people who had a good experience with Angel. If you look at the last posts before these, Seekingals is posting positive experiences about Kitty. Take these attacks for what they are. Shilling for another OKT. I won't say this is Kitty, I have no idea. But somebody who attacks others who report good experiences with Kitty's competitors is very suspicious. Just report your activities, don't attack others who tell about theirs.I'll report my experience. SMS' the for a "girl next door" type and got Jing Jing. She was thin, nice breasts with a decent face. 600 for ST + taxi fare. She was far from GFE and was in a rush to get it over with, so I took my sweet time with DATY. Refused to kiss on lips. CBJ was ok, and let me do 69. Aside from that, it was mish and doggie. As soon as we were done and I paid, she must have thought my room was on fire because she ran. I don't consider myself an ugly guy, perhaps can lose a few pounds, but her behavior makes Mr wonder if I'll repeat.
My two cents.
BC
Business Class
12-02-12, 15:07
I'm curious if any of you brothers have tried any places around Kerry or China World. My schedule doesn't allow me to venture far. I've tried to find references on the board, but nothing recent.
Appreciate any help for a fellow brother.
BC
Seekingals
12-02-12, 17:24
these are the last few posts from seekinggals, all attacking people who had a good experience with angel. if you look at the last posts before these, seekingals is posting positive experiences about kitty. take these attacks for what they are. shilling for another okt. i won't say this is kitty, i have no idea. but somebody who attacks others who report good experiences with kitty's competitors is very suspicious. just report your activities, don't attack others who tell about theirs.you're right. i had good experiences with kitty's talent indeed. and, as a senior member, i love this board and felt obliged to do something necessary to make this board better.
most senior members here to be sick of angel's annoying self-advertising. she's been creating a great number of clones and writing a great number of fake reports for herself. now she's coming back again.
here are some posts these clones recently made.
seekingals.
i was in bj last friday staying in chaoyang near the embassies. as i was concerned that the party meeting would be putting a damper on the city and i have little experience in bj, i gave angel a call.
very simple to set up other than angel is a bit difficult to understand on the phone. i requested a cute girl that spoke some english, liked kissing and daty. angel said not problem, she new just the girl.
gave her my hotel info and 30 minutes later my doorbell rang. i looked out the peep hole and couldn't see anyone. opening the door, i saw the reason was the girl was well under 5'. she was the tiniest little spinner that looked very young. face was a 7, body was very skinny with b breasts. she spoke enough english to communicate. her name sounded like mone an (sic) , but i didn't really here it well and didn't think it was important.
off to the shower, into the bed, and angel had sent exactly what i requested.
2 hours later, we are laying in bed cuddling, she takes a shower, i pay her $600 and she is very happy.
i was very happy with the experience especially since i was concerned about services being restricted due to the party meeting. angel certainly delivered a girl that met the requirements i requested. i would have preferred a bigger girl that was a bit older and did not look like a teenager, but i didn't not communicate that so i certainly can't complain.
i will definitely use angel next time in bj.
uncle juniorit's the 2nd post of this 'guy', so far 'he' had 4 posts in all.
i enjoyed 4 nights of having angel send girls to my hotel room recently. all would shower upon arriving to my room. i had already showered, so i don't know if they would have been okay with me joining them. first one was jing jing. 30ish, tall, pretty, great body, lite kissing only, but all the other things you would expect from an encounter. all girls were fine with whatever positions i wanted. no english, and she left immediately. second one not sure of the name, but very young and cute, just a little english but we used google translate to communicate a bit. third was mo cheng, a very cute girl of around 22. she was the most responsive person i've ever been with, she really seemed to be into it and enjoyed things as much as i did. her moaning in chinese during a long day session was a huge turn on. and unlike the other two, she didn't just leave when i finished, she cuddled for a good ten minutes or so before taking a shower and heading out. a total gfe. if only she spoke english i would have tried to get her to stay with me for the entire trip. repeated with her the next night and it was just as awesome except for getting busted going into my room with her by two older couple i had befriended earlier at the hotel bar. that was kind of embarrassing. i would have loved to hear what the wives said to the husbands after i closed the door to my room. the husbands must have been jealous she was so young and hot. amazing price. 600 rmb including taxi each night. i tipped mo cheng 200 rmb each night, which she appreciated. i probably should have given her more she was so good.
angel speaks good english and everything was very easy on me as somebody who can't speak chinese.it's the 11th post of this 'guy', puttputt509. so far 'he' had 15 posts in all.
ah well, those outcalls. believe it or not, i just got the very same girl from 2 different providers, kitty and maria. doesn't necessarily mean both are the same but at least they share some common girls.
and what's really sad: the whole thing wasn't very much a gfe. the first time it took like 15 minutes altogether. undress. 1 minute foreplay, do the deed, quick wash and off she went.
a week later the seccond time in a different hotel. when she rang at the door i was quite surprized to see a familiar face using a different provider. she was obviously also very surprized but didn't say anything. i didn't either. i know, i should've asked to change, but there i was: horny with a girl at the door and curious how it would play out this time. to make it short: she took a little bit more time and was a little bit more passionate. 20 to 25 minutes maybe. and then she insisted it would be 700 yuan.
maybe i try another girl or provider next time. already had a better experience with one of angel's girls. or maybe leave all that if there is not enough time to try the bars.it's the 2nd post of this 'guy', which was made after my warning of angel's self-advertising using different kinds of handles. so in this post this 'guy' did not tell us a great story between 'he' and one of, couple of angel's girls. instead, this 'guy' turned to attack another supplier kitty. so funny!
so far 'he' had 4 posts in all.
Fifty Shades
12-02-12, 22:36
It happens fairly often that positive reports from members with a relatively small number of posts are questioned to be "self-advertising" by the provider, under a made-up identify. But in most cases when I check the prior posts of those questionable members, they seem genuine. Often from different cities, reporting on completely different experiences, etc. I think some people are giving the outcall services entirely too much credit as clever fiction writers. Too much spy versus spy. If you completely disregard all posts from members with small numbers of posts, you still have posts from senior members with many posts, and they all support the idea that most of the services are pretty reliable, but that they have all sent the occasional clunker. When I have asked girls their service, they have all claimed that they know the girl who runs the service and the services are not all run by the same person. But then there continue to be the reports of shared phone numbers. I don't know what to think of that. They may all be run out of the same call center by a grandma in dehli. But the WGs who claim otherwise really have seemed believable. Of course, the good ones are all essentially professional actors.
CF.
You're right. I had good experiences with Kitty's talent indeed. And, as a senior member, I love this board and felt obliged to do something necessary to make this board better.
Most senior members here to be sick of Angel's annoying self-advertising. She's been creating a great number of clones and writing a great number of fake reports for herself. Now she's coming back again.
Here are some posts these clones recently made.
Seekingals.
It's the 2nd post of this 'guy', so far 'he' had 4 posts in all.
It's the 11th post of this 'guy', PuttPutt509. So far 'he' had 15 posts in all.
It's the 2nd post of this 'guy', which was made after my warning of Angel's self-advertising using different kinds of handles. So in this post this 'guy' did not tell us a great story between 'he' and one of, couple of Angel's girls. Instead, this 'guy' turned to attack another supplier Kitty. So funny!
So far 'he' had 4 posts in all.
Seekingals
12-03-12, 04:17
I enjoyed 4 nights of having Angel send girls to my hotel room recently. All would shower upon arriving to my room. I had already showered, so I don't know if they would have been okay with me joining them. First one was Jing Jing. 30ish, tall, pretty, great body, lite kissing only, but all the other things you would expect from an encounter. All girls were fine with whatever positions I wanted. No english, and she left immediately. Second one not sure of the name, but very young and cute, just a little english but we used google translate to communicate a bit. Third was Mo Cheng, a very cute girl of around 22. She was the most responsive person I've ever been with, she really seemed to be into it and enjoyed things as much as I did. Her moaning in Chinese during a long DAY session was a huge turn on. And unlike the other two, she didn't just leave when I finished, she cuddled for a good ten minutes or so before taking a shower and heading out. A total GFE. If only she spoke English I would have tried to get her to stay with me for the entire trip. Repeated with her the next night and it was just as awesome except for getting busted going into my room with her by two older couple I had befriended earlier at the hotel bar. That was kind of embarrassing. I would have loved to hear what the wives said to the husbands after I closed the door to my room. The husbands must have been jealous she was so young and hot. Amazing price. 600 rmb including taxi each night. I tipped Mo Cheng 200 rmb each night, which she appreciated. I probably should have given her more she was so good.
Angel speaks good english and everything was very easy on me as somebody who can't speak Chinese.
These are the last few posts from Seekinggals, all attacking people who had a good experience with Angel. If you look at the last posts before these, Seekingals is posting positive experiences about Kitty. Take these attacks for what they are. Shilling for another OKT. I won't say this is Kitty, I have no idea. But somebody who attacks others who report good experiences with Kitty's competitors is very suspicious. Just report your activities, don't attack others who tell about theirs.An interesting discovery was made by accident just now in another sex forum, which is as famous as our forum.
In this forum, a new member named 'puttputt' was advertising his Angel in his first 2 posts, and so far this 'guy' only made 2 posts.
Guys here, Can I assume 'puttputt' and 'PuttPutt509' are a clone across two different forums advertising 'their' Angel?
These two posts 'puttputt' made are attached here.
Seekingals.
Many thanks to the bros on this board. I was in Beijing recently and I read a lot of different message boards to get info before I went. This one is the most helpful. A sincere thank you to all who share helpful information.
My FR: I used Angel's services. I'm sure I would have been happy with the other OKT's too but I used her the first night and had a great time so I just kept calling her every night. Different girls, but all were awesome and the price as amazing.
Thanks again bros.
This sounds like it might be Mo Cheng from Angel's stable. Wish I could see photo to know if they are the same. Mo Cheng was very short and looked like a teenager (said she was 22), but also very affectionate and responsive and gave good GFE. I assume the OKTs share girls, so it would make sense.
Hi everyone. First time post. I arrived in Beijing almost exactly one month ago, I'm staying near the Oakwood building at Dongzhimen (hello FreebieFan). I RTFF so followed someone's advice on asking for FS at a massage place when I have non-existent mandarin. About 3 weeks ago I visited a lot of massage places in the area and had 100% failure rate on getting FS. My friends said it was because of the party conference and they are scared to offer FS. I do not want to use the visiting services because of all the negative reports in this forum. I will start to visit the massage places again and report any success.
Charm City Dave
12-03-12, 10:37
Was in Beijing last week for a few days. Never been laid in China and thought I should check that box (forgive the bad pun). Called Kitty. Said a girl would be over in 20 minutes, took 90.
Girl she sent over was a 7 (on my scale) friendly enought but certainly not GFE, no DFK, not inspired to even try DATY, decent CBJ (made clear BBBJ off limits). On her back she put on a decent act. 600RMB fee.
I had secifically requested GFE and after the girl left Kitty sent me an email saying she had a GFE girl the next day. Not sure if that was true or just a sales effort, but I was done with China. If it had been true I wish she had told me and I would have waited the day. Oh well. Not complaining, just understand what you are getting in Beijing ain't what you will get in BKK. Please don't PM me, everything I can tell you about the experience is here.
Peace Out.
I'm curious if any of you brothers have tried any places around Kerry or China World. My schedule doesn't allow me to venture far. I've tried to find references on the board, but nothing recent.
Appreciate any help for a fellow brother.
BCBC. Often you will find girls in the China world shopping centre or nearby streets.
Have had some good ones but you need to try and avoid potential starfish types and set ups.
Teltel
Business Class
12-03-12, 13:04
BC. Often you will find girls in the China world shopping centre or nearby streets.
Have had some good ones but you need to try and avoid potential starfish types and set ups.
TeltelTeltel,
Appreciate the download. I should have been more clear. I was referring to massage places in the area. Just don't feel like heading far like the 400s in this weather.
Thanks,
BC
Gualtier Malde
12-03-12, 14:01
Teltel,
Appreciate the download. I should have been more clear. I was referring to massage places in the area. Just don't feel like heading far like the 400s in this weather.
Thanks,
BCBC,
Van Palace Towers has various parlors inside. Some less legit than others. As you explore them it should be obvious which ones provide more service. If it seems like an elegant, top value spa, you'll probably get no more than a basic happy ending. If the girls are marketed harder than the services, you're going to have a better ride.
But all these are very pricey, not China local prices, more aligned with expensive western prices. You'll be lucky to get out of a full service place for less than 1000 RMB.
You can also just call one of the services in the classifieds here (Angel, etc.). For cheaper delivery right to your room.
GM.
Ps: Recently I posted about the reconstruction at Van Palace. I was wrong. It is not at Van Palace, I was one block off on my location, it had been a while since I'd been there and got confused. Sorry for anyone who was put off by those posts.
Business Class
12-03-12, 16:02
BC,
Van Palace Towers has various parlors inside. Some less legit than others. As you explore them it should be obvious which ones provide more service. If it seems like an elegant, top value spa, you'll probably get no more than a basic happy ending. If the girls are marketed harder than the services, you're going to have a better ride.
But all these are very pricey, not China local prices, more aligned with expensive western prices. You'll be lucky to get out of a full service place for less than 1000 RMB.
You can also just call one of the services in the classifieds here (Angel, etc.). For cheaper delivery right to your room.
GM.
Ps: Recently I posted about the reconstruction at Van Palace. I was wrong. It is not at Van Palace, I was one block off on my location, it had been a while since I'd been there and got confused. Sorry for anyone who was put off by those posts.Thanks, GM.
I just hope to find that diamond in the rough who I can visit over and over again. I'm getting lazy as I grow older. Pretty soon, I'll need vit-V to get through the night (ack)!
I'll be sure to share if I find one. BTW, bagged a Mongolian at Maggie's for an all-nighter for 900 RMB. Must have been a slow night. I've heard some of these gals are charging over 2K for ST. WTF? What's next? Cover charge to get in? Sorry if I sound like a scrooge. I remember the old days when 800 was enough for LT. Anyone else remember those days?
BC
Hehe. I guess everybody who have stayed or visited Beijing over 10 years does.
I used to live in here few years before (came 13 years ago) and lately had a long time out of the country until got back for shorte period lately.
Compared to early days not only have prices gone up, but I feel the other (even bigger) challenge with Maggies is that quality has gone down substantially.
The few cases I went to check the place in past few weeks, there were mostly overweight elderly ladies. In good ol' days there was reasoably good choises.
Of young and fit for 800. Wonder are things in Mongolia so much better these days that the pretty ones won't bother coming down south any more. Or are.
They going elsewhere like HK.
Knob.
Thanks, GM.
I just hope to find that diamond in the rough who I can visit over and over again. I'm getting lazy as I grow older. Pretty soon, I'll need vit-V to get through the night (ack)!
I'll be sure to share if I find one. BTW, bagged a Mongolian at Maggie's for an all-nighter for 900 RMB. Must have been a slow night. I've heard some of these gals are charging over 2K for ST. WTF? What's next? Cover charge to get in? Sorry if I sound like a scrooge. I remember the old days when 800 was enough for LT. Anyone else remember those days?
BC
Gummibaerchen
12-03-12, 19:00
An interesting discovery was made by accident just now in another sex forum, which is as famous as our forum.
In this forum, a new member named 'puttputt' was advertising his Angel in his first 2 posts, and so far this 'guy' only made 2 posts.
Guys here, Can I assume 'puttputt' and 'PuttPutt509' are a clone across two different forums advertising 'their' Angel?
These two posts 'puttputt' made are attached here.
Seekingals.I don't want to take all the fun out of your witch hunt, but just out of curiosity: did you even bother to check the previous posts of 'PuttPutt509'? Well, if you did you will have certainly found out that he was already active over 5 years ago, with most posts not even covering Beijing and some outside of China. How does that align again with any 'advertising' activities?
FreebieFan
12-04-12, 01:39
Hi everyone. First time post. at Dongzhimen (hello FreebieFan). I RTFF so followed someone's advice on asking for FS at a massage place when I have non-existent mandarin. About 3 weeks ago I visited a lot of massage places in the area and had 100% failure rate on getting FS. .Hi I've tried them all and nothing to be had either. I know the Foot Museum used to be good but it seems to be always closed. We have a sad non productive area at the moment.
Business Class
12-04-12, 15:42
Hehe. I guess everybody who have stayed or visited Beijing over 10 years does.
I used to live in here few years before (came 13 years ago) and lately had a long time out of the country until got back for shorte period lately.
Compared to early days not only have prices gone up, but I feel the other (even bigger) challenge with Maggies is that quality has gone down substantially.
The few cases I went to check the place in past few weeks, there were mostly overweight elderly ladies. In good ol' days there was reasoably good choises.
Of young and fit for 800. Wonder are things in Mongolia so much better these days that the pretty ones won't bother coming down south any more. Or are.
They going elsewhere like HK.
Knob.I completely agree with you. Things have definitely gone downhill. Back in the days, walking into Maggie's was like putting on a familiar pair of shoes. It was comfortable, familiar, and comfortable. The ladies all knew each other and were often friends. I used to hang with them outside "work" once they realized I wad a genuinely friendly guy and fun to hang around with. I never used it to my advantage by asking for freebies because I respected their profession and why they needed to work. In short, ignoring was a community of friendly, and often friendly ladies.
Now, the new generation doesn't share the same edicate. I've spoken to a few who remembered the old days. The say that the new gen are just in it for the money so much that the gals openly backstab each other, steal guys, and play dirty tricks to get ahead. Also, I was informed that cost of living has significantly jumped in Mongolia. So it's simple economics. They had to raise prices.
Frankly, I'm not bothered as much about raising prices. Yout have to admit that Beijing is more expensive these days. But I want the quality to be there. It'd be nice to get a better level of service and appearance that's consistent with the inflation.
My two cents.
BC
Seekingals
12-04-12, 16:42
I don't want to take all the fun out of your witch hunt, but just out of curiosity: did you even bother to check the previous posts of 'PuttPutt509'? Well, if you did you will have certainly found out that he was already active over 5 years ago, with most posts not even covering Beijing and some outside of China. How does that align again with any 'advertising' activities?Don't you think it's so easy a thing for a fake handles and fake reports maker like you advertising yourself to make any post covering any board or any forum?
I think fellow guys here can tell the truth from the false. So stop your nonsense and bad excuses! Fellow guys here will thank you for saving so much screen space for them.
Remember it's not what you say, but what you do that defines you.
Dingdong, if you don't know Chinese, while the girl is giving you the massage reach for her leg. See what happens. She may massage the crack of your ass to see if your dick is getting ready. And she may tap your shoulder and you look at her and she motions for you to turn over. And she maybe reaches under your shirt to find your nipples. Reach for her tits. Undo her bra, if you remember how to do it with one hand. Grab her ass. Point to her crotch and move your hips up and down. Go ahead. See what happens. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. No Chinese required.
Hi everyone. First time post. I arrived in Beijing almost exactly one month ago, I'm staying near the Oakwood building at Dongzhimen (hello FreebieFan). I RTFF so followed someone's advice on asking for FS at a massage place when I have non-existent mandarin. About 3 weeks ago I visited a lot of massage places in the area and had 100% failure rate on getting FS. My friends said it was because of the party conference and they are scared to offer FS. I do not want to use the visiting services because of all the negative reports in this forum. I will start to visit the massage places again and report any success.
FreebieFan
12-05-12, 05:35
Hi everyone. First time post. I arrived in Beijing almost exactly one month ago, (hello FreebieFan). I RTFF so followed someone's advice on asking for FS at a massage place when I have non-existent mandarin.Another altrernative would be to go the Freebie route (not follow me, go looking for freebies LOL). I have been happily fortunate to have had a lady I my bed on Sunday amn, one on Monday am, and last night was also lucky again.
Two out of three have been shaved (one I shaved and one arrived shaved) so theres some progress there. Were they all perfect, no. One 44kg, one 43, and one 60. But. Its cold outside and waking up to a warm body is very nice. And have two to meet later today, one for coffee one for dinner.
This is way more fun than the massage roulette.
Another altrernative would be to go the Freebie route.Hi everyone,
I don't want to visit a dozen massage places for a massage and maybe a happy ending. It is expensive and a waste of time. I want FS and am honest about it with the massage staff. If the front office staff are able to accommodate me, they will let me know.
I can't go the freebie route. I am a geek who couldn't get laid in a women's prison with a handful of pardons.
Sebastian My
12-05-12, 10:42
I'm curious if any of you brothers have tried any places around Kerry or China World. My schedule doesn't allow me to venture far. I've tried to find references on the board, but nothing recent.
Appreciate any help for a fellow brother.
BCIts been a while since I ventured out, but the closest place which may be suitable is chocolates nightclub. Arrive late, stay close to the bar on the left of the stage. When looking at the stage. Or the bar in front of the stage. Maggies is another option, arrive after 11pm. However these are not massage or KTV's, they are bars which require you to pick-up girls.
I almost felt like that guy in the old insult: "he's so goddam ugly, he can't even get a root in a brothel"! .
Had a fun dinner and a few beers with two fellow ISGers. Ended up at Chocolate and then Maggies.
First, a quick comment about Maggies. I agree with some earlier posters that the Maggie girls are pretty hard to get. I bought two very cute young Maggie bargals drinks (total damage 400rmb). One of them acted keen to go out for dinner, but said she wanted her friend to join. We all exchanged numbers, but no response to my text the next day inviting them to dinner. Also they both drank pretty fast; next time I'll focus on the infamous Mongolians (I'm still a Mongolian cherry!).
Now, Chocolate. That was my first time there and I was pretty impressed. Massive place, good Russian band and a lot of sexy Russians. It was also fun to see the very tough Russian mafia guys. Most of them looked like straight off the set of a James Bond movie and wearing jackets that looked like they were packing a piece. Chocolate is not the place to misbehave!
There was one amazing looking Russian gal that had so much sex appeal and had the tightest, sexiest bod I've seen in a long time.
As my fellow ISGer and I were leaving, I wandered over to get her number. She was even sexier up close and stood inches from me. Sure made my heart beat faster. She told me she was only in BJ for 10 days.
As we were walking to Maggies, she rang me but I couldn't really understand her over the noise of the road and her thick accent.
A couple of days later I rang her. She asked me to come to Chocolate, but when I said I wasn't going there she said she wanted to come to my apartment in about three hours. She quoted 2000rmb.
That's way more than I've ever paid before, but she was so hot, what the hell!
Anyway, three hours came and went and I texted her to find out what was going on.
Got back a nice reply saying sorry darling, still on her monthly, but tomorrow night 8pm would be fine.
Same story the next night. 8pm came and went. And no Russian.
By this stage I really didn't want to see her. It was pretty obvious that she was unreliable
I texted her saying hope she will enjoy her stay in Beijing. Her reply was "no enjoy, just sex".
She was the hottest babe in Chocolate and clearly didn't have to try to hard to make some dough.
I'm very happy that I didn't waste 2000rmb on what would probably have been pretty average sex, probably not even a BBBJ.
I'd rather have a couple of Mongolians or two or three young Chinese from one of the escort providers on this board.
All the girls I've had from the escort providers have been great and fantastic value
Found Sally in Kempinski. 1,000 RMB, to my room (also Kempinski). Too large for my taste, but I needed some action. She could tell I was not really thrilled with her size (you don't like "fat") , she offered to call a young, thin friend to join us. I agreed, Lili showed up, very nice. Ended up 1, 000 for each, Sally left after the first pop, Lili spent the night with me so I tipped her 500 more. Very flexible girl, enjoyed it.
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if you pm me i can let you now my favorite place near gumao center
crossing on guanghua lu / dongdaoqiao (?) near jong anli station of line1.
very clean, only small tip on top handed out directly.
gregorythanks gregory for the tip; i went there; i did not see the spa sign and almost gave up until i looked up (i was looking at the street level).
nice, clean, polite, excellent (professional therapeutic) oily massage 90 minutes for 297 rmb. very good (slow, oily, good 2 hands use with balls tease & anal fingering, taking the time to build it up to explosion) he for 200 rmb. i asked for #14 but she was not working that day. had #5.
recommended.
glad you liked it. sorry for not exactly indication the ad position, good you finally made it.
this time i have already "obligations" but next time i will try #5.
take care and if i can be of help with outcalls, let me know.
gregory.
thanks gregory for the tip; i went there; i did not see the spa sign and almost gave up until i looked up (i was looking at the street level).
nice, clean, polite, excellent (professional therapeutic) oily massage 90 minutes for 297 rmb. very good (slow, oily, good 2 hands use with balls tease & anal fingering, taking the time to build it up to explosion) he for 200 rmb. i asked for #14 but she was not working that day. had #5.
recommended.
Going to Beijing in February.
Reading the reports on here its really confusing me.
Seems its a very tough place to get some decent sex easily.
Can anyone give me the heads up on where to stay (what area) in Beijing and whats the best thing and place to go to get sex without having to go through to much trouble.
Seems to me its not going to be as easy as other Asian countries I've visited.
I was really looking to mixing a pleasure with work whislt away from home.
Any advice and help would be great.
Sebastian My
12-06-12, 05:56
There was one amazing looking Russian gal that had so much sex appeal and had the tightest, sexiest bod I've seen in a long time.I assume she was sitting at a table close to the central bar, was very young, thin and had long brown hair. I think she was from one of the stan's. In which case they are not normally on the pill. So the comment about being on the rag rings true. From experience the bonking would of been average, but just looking at that body while at the act would be had its own thrill. Still, RM2K is steep, I would of given it a miss as well.
I checked out chocolates and was very impressed by the new act, lots of Russian girls wearing undergarments, with the mandatory Russian guy of uncertain sexual orientation. Some of the acts had a pseudo sexual subtlety which i am sure would of gone over the heads of many of the chinese clients. Worth dropping over just to check the show out, the first show started at 09:30pm.
Sebastian My
12-06-12, 06:00
Going to Beijing in February.
Seems to me its not going to be as easy as other Asian countries I've visited.Beijing is not like Bangkok, but neither is it like Bombay (although its moving in that direction). There are outcall establishments, however I never use them so can't comment on how good they are. There are a number of bars where, with effort, you can pick someone up and there are the Chinese establishments, which may not be a good idea to try if you do not speak pudongwa and are alone. There are some good guides in this forum you can read.
thanks gregory for the tip; i went there; i did not see the spa sign and almost gave up until i looked up (i was looking at the street level).
nice, clean, polite, excellent (professional therapeutic) oily massage 90 minutes for 297 rmb. very good (slow, oily, good 2 hands use with balls tease & anal fingering, taking the time to build it up to explosion) he for 200 rmb. i asked for #14 but she was not working that day. had #5.
recommended.now you got me. ball tease and anal fingering? i have to get to this place. is this the one that is inside the circle window building or is this a different one? if it is not inside the circle building, how would describe the design of the sign of this place? i know the area very well and if you gave me something to go on i would be very grateful. number 5 sounds like a winner!
FreebieFan
12-07-12, 01:57
As part of my journey in finding all different types of Chinese ladies, so far the chronological range has been from 20 to mid 40s.
All normal ladies with normal professions.
However recently a lady contacted me, and we did the apropriate coffee meeting.
Divorced, early 40s slim and trim. The conversation was normal except for her references to being a professor in a uni, to having a PhD, and to doing a study on neurological something.
Well Freebie likes to enjoy women of all types. I left her, texted her that our next meeting should be in my place with wine. She replied that she hoped there would be " wine and and and". And made reference to the fact her "and and and " hadn't happened for a year or more. So I think next week FF does his first professor.
Life surely has its interesting moments.
PuttPutt509
12-07-12, 02:38
This story won't be of much help since I can't remember the name of the place, but I had a ridiculous experience at a massage place recently. I had some free time one morning around 11 a. M, and went for a long walk. I walked on Wangfujing away from the shopping area for about 1. 5 KM, hoping to find something interesting. I took a right on a sketchy-looking street and found a massage parlor in the basement of a very Chinese hotel. I walked downstairs and nobody was around, so I called out Ni Hao and somebody came. I was taken to a room and I thought I had hit the jackpot. The room had a massage table. And a double bed. I thought I was definitely going to get some great action, this had to be a sign that this was a FS place. I stripped down and got ont he table, and a few minutes later a tall and thin 20ish girl came in dressed in street clothes. She showed me a menu and a 60 minute oil massage was something like 380 RMB. Steep, I know, but I thought that would include a HE at least and I assumed with the bed in the room that for a tip I could get more. The girl was very cute and I would have been up for it, believe me. She gave me a pretty good massage for 40 minutes, but it wasn't sensual at all and she avoided the goods. She told me to flip and I figure that it was time for some fun. She rubbed the front for a while and let me rub back OTC but it was clear to me by then that this wasn't going as I had hoped. She gave an abrupt finish and said all done (she spoke no English and I speak no Chinese, so communication was impossible). I made the universal sign for a HE, and she shook her head no and left the room. I started to dress. She comes back in a minute later after apparently consulting with the manager. She indicated with hand signs that I had to pay the 400 RMB for the massage, but she then made the HE motion and then gave a hand sign I didn't understand at the time. Like a hitchhiking motion with the pinky extended. I had no idea what she meant. Eventually she communicated that this was the sign for 6. So after some frustrating communication attempts, it was clear that she wanted a 600 RMB tip for a HE, on top of the 400 RMB massage fee. Huh? I thought at first she meant 600 total, which I would have gone for at the time, but it really was 600 tip she wanted. I pointed at the bed and said I would tip her 600 for FS (using another universal sign.) but she said no. So I gave it one more try and offered 300 RMB for oral, and she looked horrified. So that was it. I was surprised but she let me finish dressing and I walked out with just an overpriced massage.
Not sure what was going on there, especially with the beds in the room. Obviously this is more than a legit massage place. Maybe it was that I am not Chinese and I was a bit outside the tourist area. But to let me walk out and lose the extra money I was willing to leave for decent service is not Chinese at all. I'm still not sure what happened. But it was interesting.
Gualtier Malde
12-07-12, 06:56
Not sure what was going on there, especially with the beds in the room. Obviously this is more than a legit massage place. Maybe it was that I am not Chinese and I was a bit outside the tourist area. But to let me walk out and lose the extra money I was willing to leave for decent service is not Chinese at all. I'm still not sure what happened. But it was interesting.Well, nice try, that's what happens sometimes. At some places, especially small neighborhood ones, you might have to go more than once so they recognize you and are comfortable. You might get service on the second visit. Some places just don't go the extra mile at all. Beijing is not like Thailand or the PI, where sex is an aggressive business. This is more of a family oriented culture, the sex is buried deeper (but it is surely here, strongly here, if you know where and how to look. It takes more finesse here.)
You might consider being a little less aggressive on your first visit to a neighborhood one. Tune in more to the signals they are sending. Here are some:
1. Do they give you the little disposable underwear to put on? Not a great sign, they might be purely legit (not always).
2. Do they stay in the room while you put on those disposables? Better sign.
3. No disposable underwear for you? Even better sign, but still not a guarantee. Consider trying to go fully naked for the massage. If she says no, not a great sign, but not the end of the experiment.
4. While you are getting ready for your massage, has there been any touching? (Simple touching, like arm to arm, not grabbing your jewels.) That's positive, the more intimate the touch, the better.
5. Any flirting is a good sign. Allowing you to touch their legs during the massage is a good sign.
6. Any comment on the size of your package is a great sign.
7. During the massage, any light (fingertip, nails) massage on your back or legs is a strong sign of at least a HE.
8. Any aggressive massage in your butt area, or crack, and you should plan on an offer for a HE. More than necessary contact (sitting on your butt while massaging your back, or when at the head of the bed, leaning in so that your head is in her crotch, or her breasts are on your back, is a strong sign, highly likely they will offer or you can ask.
If you aren't getting any of the above at all in a local shop, highly likely it is legit and any request will be met with shock, disgust, disappointment, etc.
If a HE is on offer, you should ask for FS. You won't always get it. But if you are offered HE, at least ask. If you are not offered at least a HE, don't bother with anything more.
GM.
Guitarrefreak
12-07-12, 07:33
If I ever have a chance to call you master I will.
Have been enjoying in your posts.
As part of my journey in finding all different types of Chinese ladies, so far the chronological range has been from 20 to mid 40s.
All normal ladies with normal professions.
However recently a lady contacted me, and we did the apropriate coffee meeting.
Divorced, early 40s slim and trim. The conversation was normal except for her references to being a professor in a uni, to having a PhD, and to doing a study on neurological something.
Well Freebie likes to enjoy women of all types. I left her, texted her that our next meeting should be in my place with wine. She replied that she hoped there would be " wine and and and". And made reference to the fact her "and and and " hadn't happened for a year or more. So I think next week FF does his first professor.
Life surely has its interesting moments.
FreebieFan
12-07-12, 08:46
If I ever have a chance to call you master I will.
Have been enjoying in your posts.Am glad you do / are. There will be many more.
However I have a small worry here.
In Manila my greatest successes come with the 19-25 year old range. Young lithe easy to impress etc.
In Taipei, the 28-35 was generaly my most productive and target rich environment. Old and single or separated and needing warmth.
Here I have noticed that theres a whole fish pond of 40 and slightly above ready and willing. Divorced and not quite desperate but not far off it.
Hmm thankfully I just had afternon tea with a 22 year Filipina who will help to redress the age balance a bit.
I think that in most cities in China, there is a whole fish pond of 40 and above, both married and single / divorced, that are ready and willing.
In Shenzhen I set up a new Wechat account with a couple of decent photos (important) and in the 'What's Up' section stated (in Chinese) that I loved more mature females. I won't say that I was inundated with replies (many older gals are not members of Wechat) , but I got a steady response stream over a one month period, which dwindled to a couple a week after that.
Most who responded did not speak English, but were quite happy to meet me at hotel or my apartment. And all very, very ready and willing! All were decent looking with a few classed as attractive to very attractive (typically the married women were the most attractive).
I have had some great experiences in this manner. Many of them were truly desperate. One in particular I remember was very demure when she walked in the the door, but after a warm greeting, and peck on the cheek, she was pressing herself against me and breathing quite heavily and already moaning lightly. She was 40+ with a 21 yo daughter, arrived in a very tiny mini-skirt with long high boots, and had a very very large rack. Memorable!
I am convinced that Chinese guys have no interest in the over 40s. But I do!
I am about to try the same experiment in Hong Kong. The most popular chat site there is 'Whatsapp'.
BY the way I am in Australia for 2 weeks, and the Chinese students there are using Wechat. Quite a low success rate (as expected) but I have met one married post-graduate student from Harbin who was very accommodating.
Ikksman.
Am glad you do / are. There will be many more.
However I have a small worry here.
In Manila my greatest successes come with the 19-25 year old range. Young lithe easy to impress etc.
In Taipei, the 28-35 was generaly my most productive and target rich environment. Old and single or separated and needing warmth.
Here I have noticed that theres a whole fish pond of 40 and slightly above ready and willing. Divorced and not quite desperate but not far off it.
Hmm thankfully I just had afternon tea with a 22 year Filipina who will help to redress the age balance a bit.
The same image is being used by a girl in both Beijing and Qingdao. In Beijing she is Lily and in Qingdao she is Feifei.
http://www.vipbeijingescort.com/beijing/beijing-do-you-want-to-practise-your-chinesei-can-help-you.
http://www.vipchinaescort.com/qingdao/why-not-choose-different-day-during-charismas-enjoy-massage.
I'm shocked that we can't trust escort service photos.
I have been fishing in this pond very successfully for the last ten plus years. The amazing thing is that I have been going after the kept mistresses (that sit and wait for their lo gon to come by). While waiting, they get quite horny for getting any. Going after the well to do in these ponds have clear advantages. They come to you discreetly and does not want to be caught and they have $$$. Not like the KTV / sauna gals that drags you our on expensive dates and shopping.
Shhh. Do not spread this secret out. You will find much younger fish in this pond than you anticipate. Yes the 40+ years old can quitely screw your brains out but not getting any satisfaction for a long time.
Just some advice. Make sure you know that their low gon is not any crazy military or mobster. If so, that could give you a slight headache or a potentially missing body part.
Ciao.
I think that in most cities in China, there is a whole fish pond of 40 and above, both married and single / divorced, that are ready and willing.
In Shenzhen I set up a new Wechat account with a couple of decent photos (important) and in the 'What's Up' section stated (in Chinese) that I loved more mature females. I won't say that I was inundated with replies (many older gals are not members of Wechat) , but I got a steady response stream over a one month period, which dwindled to a couple a week after that.
Most who responded did not speak English, but were quite happy to meet me at hotel or my apartment. And all very, very ready and willing! All were decent looking with a few classed as attractive to very attractive (typically the married women were the most attractive).
I have had some great experiences in this manner. Many of them were truly desperate. One in particular I remember was very demure when she walked in the the door, but after a warm greeting, and peck on the cheek, she was pressing herself against me and breathing quite heavily and already moaning lightly. She was 40+ with a 21 yo daughter, arrived in a very tiny mini-skirt with long high boots, and had a very very large rack. Memorable!
I am convinced that Chinese guys have no interest in the over 40s. But I do!
I am about to try the same experiment in Hong Kong. The most popular chat site there is 'Whatsapp'.
BY the way I am in Australia for 2 weeks, and the Chinese students there are using Wechat. Quite a low success rate (as expected) but I have met one married post-graduate student from Harbin who was very accommodating.
Ikksman.
Sebastian My
12-08-12, 09:22
while its no real surprise, i am pretty certain hollywood is gone for good. after the police closed it down last july / august it still remains deserted and looking like a construction site. with the additional restrictions on visa for girls from cis the business model was not viable, as there was no longer any supply. while i was never a fan on the hollywood mark 2, its demise is sad. even in the darkest days of beijing back before 2000, you could always rely on hollywood for a good supply of providers.
times change and what seems to be happening to beijing is an expansion of the industry, with no central hot spots. hollywood, the pig, maggies, hard rock cafe and henry j bean were the old hot spots, and you will notice 3 of that list no longer exist. coupled with the raids and government efforts to surpress the industry its all rep001tered and gone under ground. it was bound to happen eventually, especially when more western foreign visitors came to beijing.
so here is to hollywood (and hard rock) , they provided much joy to all and may they rest in peace.
Does anyone of you fellow mongers who are keen on freebies any experience of this site
www.saoons.com/?pic=133824? Claims to be for ONS, any success?
FreebieFan
12-09-12, 12:03
Knowing that I won't be free for the next few weekends, decided to have me an all out happy fulfilling weekend.
The plan was simple. Miss A on Friday night, Miss B on Saturday night and Miss C on Sunday. All the players were informed in advance and all agreed to times and dates.
Miss A went totalyl normally and according to plan. 26, and a secretary, she's busy doing the year end stuff that many local companies do so I knew she wouldn't be bothering me for repeat dates. All was good, sex was fine her body is fine and nothing more to be said. Cost was 2 glasses wine and 2 bowls noodles. LOL.
Miss A leaves on Saturday morning and I contat Miss B who has always been reiable before. After 2 hours of unananswered texts she tells me her son is sick and can't make it. Hmm ok honey. So then I contact Miss C.
After a couple of hours she arrives. We head to bed, where her 20 year old lithe body always helps me. However Miss D, hitherto unmentioned contacts me and asks can we meet at 11pm and can she stay with me. Ok nice offer. Miss C however lives far away so isn't able to get home. She wants to stay in my place but I can't manage that as Miss D is coming for the night. Hmm so Freebie being a nice guy gets her a hotel. Miss D comes and we have a nice night and better early morning. However she was hoping to stay with me all day but I had other plans. I wanted more of Miss C. So now Miss D is asking if she can stay in my place. No honey, you have to go.
Find Miss C and have lots of more of her. She leaves and Freebie has a good rest LOL.
Knowing that I won't be free for the next few weekends, decided to have me an all out happy fulfilling weekend.
The plan was simple. Miss A on Friday night, Miss B on Saturday night and Miss C on Sunday. All the players were informed in advance and all agreed to times and dates.
Miss A went totalyl normally and according to plan. 26, and a secretary, she's busy doing the year end stuff that many local companies do so I knew she wouldn't be bothering me for repeat dates. All was good, sex was fine her body is fine and nothing more to be said. Cost was 2 glasses wine and 2 bowls noodles. LOL.
Miss A leaves on Saturday morning and I contat Miss B who has always been reiable before. After 2 hours of unananswered texts she tells me her son is sick and can't make it. Hmm ok honey. So then I contact Miss C.
After a couple of hours she arrives. We head to bed, where her 20 year old lithe body always helps me. However Miss D, hitherto unmentioned contacts me and asks can we meet at 11pm and can she stay with me. Ok nice offer. Miss C however lives far away so isn't able to get home. She wants to stay in my place but I can't manage that as Miss D is coming for the night. Hmm so Freebie being a nice guy gets her a hotel. Miss D comes and we have a nice night and better early morning. However she was hoping to stay with me all day but I had other plans. I wanted more of Miss C. So now Miss D is asking if she can stay in my place. No honey, you have to go.
Find Miss C and have lots of more of her. She leaves and Freebie has a good rest LOL.Wow: I'm ready to learn from you, my Teacher
I have made 6 massage requests (3 in Qingdao and 3 in Beijing) using the booking function on the girl's website. Only one replied and she was Filipino. I assumed an emailed booking would be best in case there was a English language problem. Any ideas?
Loveasiangirls
12-10-12, 05:06
Knowing that I won't be free for the next few weekends, decided to have me an all out happy fulfilling weekend.
The plan was simple. Miss A on Friday night, Miss B on Saturday night and Miss C on Sunday. All the players were informed in advance and all agreed to times and dates.
Miss A went totalyl normally and according to plan. 26, and a secretary, she's busy doing the year end stuff that many local companies do so I knew she wouldn't be bothering me for repeat dates. All was good, sex was fine her body is fine and nothing more to be said. Cost was 2 glasses wine and 2 bowls noodles. LOL.
Miss A leaves on Saturday morning and I contat Miss B who has always been reiable before. After 2 hours of unananswered texts she tells me her son is sick and can't make it. Hmm ok honey. So then I contact Miss C.
After a couple of hours she arrives. We head to bed, where her 20 year old lithe body always helps me. However Miss D, hitherto unmentioned contacts me and asks can we meet at 11pm and can she stay with me. Ok nice offer. Miss C however lives far away so isn't able to get home. She wants to stay in my place but I can't manage that as Miss D is coming for the night. Hmm so Freebie being a nice guy gets her a hotel. Miss D comes and we have a nice night and better early morning. However she was hoping to stay with me all day but I had other plans. I wanted more of Miss C. So now Miss D is asking if she can stay in my place. No honey, you have to go.
Find Miss C and have lots of more of her. She leaves and Freebie has a good rest LOL.Dealing with freebies requires flexibility, juggling and some planning. I always kept some "sure thing" that I knew I could call at the last minute if one cancelled. I also always has a lose plan B, just in case. But sometimes it would mean trying to squeeze both in that day. I had one close call once. I walked girl A to the subway then no more than 10 seconds later I get a call from girl B saying she has arrived. At the same subway. Good thing I did not walk girl A all the way to the turnstile.
I use the past tense as after over 100 freebies I am semi-retired now. Hard to squeeze many girls when you have a steady GF.
Did you come across any virgins in your meetings with freebies? I met two. One was a securities lawyer. 34 years old. You'd never find a virgin of that age back home!
FreebieFan
12-10-12, 06:57
Dealing with freebies requires flexibility, juggling and some planning. I always kept some "sure thing" that I knew I could call at the last minute if one cancelled. I also always has a lose plan B, just in case. But sometimes it would mean trying to squeeze both in that day. I had one close call once. I walked girl A to the subway then no more than 10 seconds later I get a call from girl B saying she has arrived. At the same subway. Good thing I did not walk girl A all the way to the turnstile.
Did you come across any virgins in your meetings with freebies? I met two. One was a securities lawyer. 34 years old. You'd never find a virgin of that age back home!You raise a distant memroy of a fine day in HK when I said goodbye to an Indonesian and one minute later was saying hi to a Filipina. That was a fun day.
I'm new in China so haven't had any virgins here, but in my Manila mongering had many varying from 19 up to 26.
FreebieFan
12-10-12, 07:00
For the first time in many years I will be free to take Chinese new year vacation wherever I choose. I don't need to hit Manila as I'm there in January, and obviously I don't want to go anywhere where I will eithre be surrounded by Chinese or the air fares have gone crazy. So that rules out HK, Phuket and Bali.
Anyone had any experience with BKK or Chiang Mai over Chinese New Year? Good mongering places in Vietnam? Dubai? Laos or Pnomh Penh?
Thoughts appreciated as in pre planning mode.
My Filipino girl (see my earlier report about massage bookings in Beijing) was beautiful, friendly and expensive. I thought about it afterwards and believe it was still good value.
We did everything via email including giving a description of all my fantasies. She asked me to wait across the road from her apartment and came down to collect me. I recognised her straight away from her photos. She is actually better looking in real life. There was no mention of money as everything had been previously negotiated; Y2500 for the afternoon.
I suggested a shower so off came the clothes. She was above average height with a cute face (perhaps Eurasian) with pink lips and long dyed brown hair. Broad firm breasts, cute flat nipples, flat tummy and straight legs completed the picture. Her pubes were trimmed at the front, and naturally bare at the back with a slightly dark rosebud. The most striking thing was her dark eyes: not sinister but surprisingly friendly. She didn't wear any make-up and her clothes seemed to consist of jeans and simple tops.
The shower consisted of lots of wet kisses and cuddles and soapy foam. After the shower she put on my requested 'uniform' consisting of white cotton singlet and white cotton panties. Later she said I was the first to ask for this type of cosplay. Most people ask for black or red lingerie.
We then lay on the bed with more kisses and cuddles, and gentle caresses of those lovely boobs. I could feel the stress of life disappearing in her arms. Eventually we started to get serious so off came the panties. No problems DATY and no fake moans. She positioned her pussy above my face and told me to lick while she jerked me off. I was surprised I came so quickly, and boy, was I sensitive afterwards.
I had a quick wash then jumped back into bed with those lovely lips and nips. Pillow talk consisted of her life in Manila and what she wanted in the future. As I was talking she fell asleep in my arms (I wasn't boring, she had had a late night).
I eventually felt strong enough for a second round. She put on the condom but when I got inside I felt uncomfortable. I think the lub she was using was incompatible with the condom's material causing it to deteriorate and expand. Anyway everything was much better after repositioning the condom. We did it missionary and she moved her pelvis up and down to get the smoothest action. She didn't put any pressure on me, and I could feel the passion slowly rising until I eventually blew. Afterwards, I sat on the edge of the bed gently taking care of my 'little man', followed by a quick wash by both of us.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to repeat things as she will soon be returning to Manila, and then she hopes to go to Australia.
As an exercise in stress relief, I would rate the experience as 10/10. The condom problem ruined the sex a bit, but it was still good.
For the first time in many years I will be free to take Chinese new year vacation wherever I choose. I don't need to hit Manila as I'm there in January, and obviously I don't want to go anywhere where I will eithre be surrounded by Chinese or the air fares have gone crazy. So that rules out HK, Phuket and Bali.
Anyone had any experience with BKK or Chiang Mai over Chinese New Year? Good mongering places in Vietnam? Dubai? Laos or Pnomh Penh?
Thoughts appreciated as in pre planning mode.Chiang Mai isn't much of a mongering destination. BKK is always good. How about Jakarta?
PM me. My GF and I would be interested. She is bi, just in case your lady is interested in that.
GM.We too are very intrested in 4somes and swaping.
FreebieFan
12-11-12, 01:36
Chiang Mai isn't much of a mongering destination. BKK is always good. How about Jakarta?Hi actually my intention isn't to make it a mongering trip. More somewhere I've never been, as I always seem to be able to find evening company if needed. Done BKK a thousand times. Chiang Mai is a pretty little town.
Jakarta is a great place but only when on a business trip. Girls arel lovely but its not a relaxing, sit in a cafe and smile at girls passing by sort of place.
So maybe Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai. Not sure whether either will be packed with CNY revellers.
I phoned 2 girls whose website / advertisement said they were supposed to be nearby in Dongzhimen (Yumi) and Sanlitun (Fanfan). When I checked the addresses they gave me on the map they were on the other side of town. Yumi sounds nice on the phone. Fanfan sounds like a grouch.
Hey
I was thinking of paying a visit to the Hua Yi Tian Lun Water World Spa on Chuan Xie Lu which is the giant grey building near the Dongzhimen Crossroads. Has anyone been there before and do they know if and kind what special services they offer?
I have been once before and I had a feeling that there was something more than just a SPA. I did notice that the masseuse last time was wearing nice tight athletic purple shorts rather than pants and she sat on my back while giving the massage. Unfortunately at that time I only opted for the non oily body massage. If anyone has been before and succeeded, please let me know on this forum.
May be headed back to BJ soon. Last time (first time) I was there, angel sent over a very nice young friend.
1) is angel still in the game (I'm not seeing may reports of late here)
2) Any experience with folks asking for 2 to be sent over at the same time? If so, would love to hear your thoughts
FreebieFan
12-12-12, 01:47
Had a lady over last night. Half way through the movie she told me she's going to take a shower, and suprised me dlightfully by returning wearing high heels, stockings, crotchless panties, loose top and long black leatrher gloves. I don't think we bothered with the rest of the movie.
And at breakfast this am, she asked if I'm interested in a 3some. And if I could find a white girl to play, she would be a willing participant. Life has its interesting moments. But where the heck do I find a white girl who wants to play? I haven't been with a white gal for 20 years.
Loveasiangirls
12-12-12, 05:39
Had a lady over last night. Half way through the movie she told me she's going to take a shower, and suprised me dlightfully by returning wearing high heels, stockings, crotchless panties, loose top and long black leatrher gloves. I don't think we bothered with the rest of the movie.
And at breakfast this am, she asked if I'm interested in a 3some. And if I could find a white girl to play, she would be a willing participant. Life has its interesting moments. But where the heck do I find a white girl who wants to play? I haven't been with a white gal for 20 years.I have found locating a 3rd very impossible in Beijing. Even hookers won't do it!
World Guy Sh
12-12-12, 09:33
Had a lady over last night. Half way through the movie she told me she's going to take a shower, and suprised me dlightfully by returning wearing high heels, stockings, crotchless panties, loose top and long black leatrher gloves. I don't think we bothered with the rest of the movie.
And at breakfast this am, she asked if I'm interested in a 3some. And if I could find a white girl to play, she would be a willing participant. Life has its interesting moments. But where the heck do I find a white girl who wants to play? I haven't been with a white gal for 20 years.I hate to say it, but Craigslist is probably going to be your best bet. You used to get the odd person there (bored white girl) looking to hook up. Date In Asia was also surprisingly useful for that as well. Was approached a couple of times for group sex in China. There must be a few white girls itching to know what a Chinese girl is like.
Not that I am jealous in any way whatsoever.
I've been playing around with WeChat a bit this week. Some nice chat sessions but not been able to get anyone I contacted to visit. Using Google Translate to communicate.
I did have one woman hound me for a few hours. She saw that I'm nearby so she is persistent in saying I should come meet her. All in English. She tells me she is at the back door of HRC. I asked if HRC is open. I'd gone by a month ago and it wasn't. She said no, in the building behind HRC. I am at the Sheraton so I tell her I'm not going out in the cold. She demands 2000. I laugh and tell her 500. This goes on for a while and she comes down to 1500. I stick to 500. She keeps demanding 1500. I drop to 400. She sticks to 1500 for ages. Sends me two pics of her. Not really the best looking, but I'm a bit tipsy and horny. I hold at 400 until she drops to 1200. I counter with 400. She brings me 1200 again and I drop to 300. She comes down to 1000 after a while. I come up to 350 to encourage her. She keeps demanding that I come now to see her. I tell her I'm not leaving the hotel. She says she will come to the lobby and demands 1000. I drop back to 300. She comes down to 800 and I confirm 800 for all night and tell her it will take me 20 mins to come down. She's not happy. I finish what I'm doing and lock EVERYTHING in the safe. Go down and pick her up. On the way up to the room I lean in for a kiss in the elevator. She's unhappy, says they have cameras. I say I don't care. She says she cares. We get into the room and I go for a kiss again. She backs away and says "You are so rude. Why are you so rude? Give me the money now." I say,"No, I give you in the morning." She says "Then I am really leaving." I follow her to the door, bolt it behind her and block her on WeChat.
Considering Maggies tonight. I have an early flight in the morning but I'd like to see what is on offer.
How are you guys using these apps to find normal chicks in BJ?
Hi,
Anybody out there who tried some of the girls advertising in QQ? Offerings are 300-500 for 3 hours. 600-1000 for overnight.
Are they real, is it safe to outcall, do they laowais?
Seems to be a good alternative to Angel etc.
Sam
They offer FS on the menu, but last time I went there was more than 1 year ago.
Hey
I was thinking of paying a visit to the Hua Yi Tian Lun Water World Spa on Chuan Xie Lu which is the giant grey building near the Dongzhimen Crossroads. Has anyone been there before and do they know if and kind what special services they offer?
I have been once before and I had a feeling that there was something more than just a SPA. I did notice that the masseuse last time was wearing nice tight athletic purple shorts rather than pants and she sat on my back while giving the massage. Unfortunately at that time I only opted for the non oily body massage. If anyone has been before and succeeded, please let me know on this forum.
Hi,
Anybody out there who tried some of the girls advertising in QQ? Offerings are 300-500 for 3 hours. 600-1000 for overnight.
Are they real, is it safe to outcall, do they laowais?
Seems to be a good alternative to Angel etc.
SamQq girls usually do not do outcalls, you have to go visit them in their home, often not so clean.
If you do get one to do outcall, she might be not what you want after all.
OS
[QUOTE=Honoured; 1359467]Has anyone been there before and do they know if and kind what special services they offer? QUOTE]
I pass this place every second day but it always looked ultra-legit. I asked two of the security / parking guys (using sign language and displaying 2 condoms) whether they offer FS. The answer from both guys was No No No. Sorry.
Can anybody give me the heads up on what the go is in this Area. I am staying at Asia Hotel and looking for bit of fun. Massage with happy ending great or in call.
Been to many Asian countries. Never to China. This ones really confusing me. There are so many different reports.
This is my second ask for help.
I would be happy if someone can give me a bit of a guide on what to do. From previous experience etc.
I am going there on bussiness in Feb 2013.
Asia Hotel, Beijing Location
25kms to the Beijing International Airport.
2. 5kms to Beijing Railway Station.
3-minutes walking distance to the subway station. Dong Si Shi Tiao.
5-minutes by car to Wangfujing shopping area.
8-minutes by car to Tiananmen Square and the Forbidden City.
Address: 8 Xinzhong Xijie, Gongti Beilu, Beijing, China.
Post Code: 100027
Gualtier Malde
12-14-12, 07:51
I've been playing around with WeChat a bit this week. Some nice chat sessions but not been able to get anyone I contacted to visit. Using Google Translate to communicate.
I did have one woman hound me for a few hours. She saw that I'm nearby so she is persistent in saying I should come meet her. All in English. She tells me she is at the back door of HRC. I asked if HRC is open. I'd gone by a month ago and it wasn't. She said no, in the building behind HRC. I am at the Sheraton so I tell her I'm not going out in the cold. She demands 2000. I laugh and tell her 500. This goes on for a while and she comes down to 1500. I stick to 500. She keeps demanding 1500. I drop to 400. She sticks to 1500 for ages. Sends me two pics of her. Not really the best looking, but I'm a bit tipsy and horny. I hold at 400 until she drops to 1200. I counter with 400. She brings me 1200 again and I drop to 300. She comes down to 1000 after a while. I come up to 350 to encourage her. She keeps demanding that I come now to see her. I tell her I'm not leaving the hotel. She says she will come to the lobby and demands 1000. I drop back to 300. She comes down to 800 and I confirm 800 for all night and tell her it will take me 20 mins to come down. She's not happy. I finish what I'm doing and lock EVERYTHING in the safe. Go down and pick her up. On the way up to the room I lean in for a kiss in the elevator. She's unhappy, says they have cameras. I say I don't care. She says she cares. We get into the room and I go for a kiss again. She backs away and says "You are so rude. Why are you so rude? Give me the money now." I say,"No, I give you in the morning." She says "Then I am really leaving." I follow her to the door, bolt it behind her and block her on WeChat.
Considering Maggies tonight. I have an early flight in the morning but I'd like to see what is on offer.
How are you guys using these apps to find normal chicks in BJ?Working girls aren't "normal chicks in BJ". But I use it to find actual normal girls all the time. These contacts sometimes develop into in person meetings, and sometimes (frequently) those in person meetings become intimate (not on the first meeting).
Regarding your actions:
Your behavior in the elevator was pretty atrocious. Yes, there are cameras in the elevators, and the hallways of the hotels. Security does watch them. I've not found any woman who is interested in kissing, fondling, whatever, in an elevator. It will help you to understand and respect this, you'll get a lot farther with the women. No point in starting on the wrong foot as you did.
Being pushy in the room just added to her discomfort. I'm not surprised by any of her behavior, and I think you brought it on yourself. In any case, you could have dealt with the money-later issue a bit more diplomatically. What I'll normally do is lock everything up, but keep out the cash I am going to use to pay her. If she asks I will show the cash, but say I pay at the end. If she insists on up front, I'll show her the cash and offer her the opportunity to leave if she insists. Just politely drill it in that she is walking away from the payoff.
GM.
Has anyone been there before and do they know if and kind what special services they offer?I pass this place every second day but it always looked ultra-legit. I asked two of the security / parking guys (using sign language and displaying 2 condoms) whether they offer FS. The answer from both guys was No No No. Sorry.I went to Water World about 3 months ago and had a good experience. About 1400 rmb for FS. Quality girls. Upscale place.
Working girls aren't "normal chicks in BJ". But I use it to find actual normal girls all the time. These contacts sometimes develop into in person meetings, and sometimes (frequently) those in person meetings become intimate (not on the first meeting).Yes, so what I'm asking about is some more detail on how you playing this. Do you speak Chinese? I'm using Google Translate. Not sure how accurate that is going to be. This is quite separate from the working girl that I met below.
Regarding your actions:
Your behavior in the elevator was pretty atrocious. Yes, there are cameras in the elevators, and the hallways of the hotels. Security does watch them. I've not found any woman who is interested in kissing, fondling, whatever, in an elevator. It will help you to understand and respect this, you'll get a lot farther with the women. No point in starting on the wrong foot as you did.I agree that I was not being considerate. In BKK it is usually the working girl who will kiss and fondle in the elevator and I have to stop them. This evening I was probably a bit overtired, a bit tipsy and whatever.
Being pushy in the room just added to her discomfort. I'm not surprised by any of her behavior, and I think you brought it on yourself. In any case, you could have dealt with the money-later issue a bit more diplomatically. What I'll normally do is lock everything up, but keep out the cash I am going to use to pay her. If she asks I will show the cash, but say I pay at the end. If she insists on up front, I'll show her the cash and offer her the opportunity to leave if she insists. Just politely drill it in that she is walking away from the payoff.
GM.I don't think I was being pushy at all in the room. I was going in for a kiss. Seems pretty typical and standard. In the context of post-elevator perhaps it can be seen that way, but I wasn't being pushy. I have shown cash before in the same way that you did. In this case I didn't feel like doing so since she'd already come after me about being "rude".
FreebieFan
12-15-12, 03:31
Met a very interesting and artistic lady recently (amongst others). We started with a lunch, where she insisted on paying for half, reasoning "we don't know each other well enough yet".
We had another lunch, with same sharing. We then had a dinner and drinks which ended up in my apartment.
Following day we meet for afternoon coffee. And sure enough, she wants to share the bill saying " we still don't each other well enough". I enjoy te fact that someone is sharing the bill, , but after 6 hours of great sex together I think were beginning to get to know each other just a bit.
I went to Water World about 3 months ago and had a good experience. About 1400 rmb for FS. Quality girls. Upscale place.Thanks for the heads up. I don't want to waste.
My money approaching the wrong place, I mainly want a BJ or a HE or something similar.
Is there any way you can tell how you approached the place or what you.
Said to indicate you wanted extra? Are you a VIP? Last time I had a massage I paid at the counter, so inam.
Guessing and need to take extra cash with me. I only went up to the second floor rather than the third floor which I also guess where the fun happens. If you can give me any guidance what I can do or special things I need.
To say to the reception I would be grateful. I also can speak mandarin so communication is.
Not much of an issue
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Gualtier Malde
12-15-12, 13:37
Yes, so what I'm asking about is some more detail on how you playing this. Do you speak Chinese? I'm using Google Translate. Not sure how accurate that is going to be. This is quite separate from the working girl that I met below.Very little Chinese. I can read almost none, and speak just a bit more. I use Google Translate too. Sometimes it gets things wrong. I find frequently you need to spend a little time with the tool. For example, if what they write doesn't immediately make sense, or seems incomplete, separate the sentence into smaller groups of characters and feed that to translate. Usually you'll get a clue what they are saying. Use the website rather than the iphone app, and display the pinyin. It will help you understand how to separate the characters into groups (usually but not always groups of two characters make a sensible word).
I write back to them in english and let them do their own translation. Those willing to do that are more likely to stick with you anyway.
I've had almost zero luck with working girls on wechat. It is pretty much all freebies. But in that realm, I've had fabulous responses.
Freebies deserve a very high degree of respect, in my opinion. Most are in it for more than just a quick jump in the hay. Be nice to them. Invest. It will return many times over. Not all end up in the sack, but a bunch do. Others have become very satisfying friends.
GM.
FreebieFan
12-15-12, 14:47
Ok so last night a lady and I were quite well "oiled".2am and not a taxi to be had (I haven't been here long but the taxi situation seems to get worse and worse recently with more and more drivers off meter or black taxis only being available?)
Anyways was too cold, and were too tipsy for both of us to walk to my place and no taxis.
A bicyle rickshaw pulls up and we tell him where to go. So now we are enclosed in this canopy that keeps out the cold but also means we are totally private. My gal, being drunk and horny, has enough wits about her to realise his might be a fun moment. Unzips me and enjoys the only thing that was warm on a cold night. ! Was a very fun moment in an unexpected way!
And totally off topic, met a 26 year old virgin today. But says she's willing to learn "something" with me as long as she stays a virgin. Yeah baby
FreebieFan
12-15-12, 14:51
. It is pretty much all freebies. But in that realm, I've had fabulous responses.
Freebies deserve a very high degree of respect, in my opinion. Most are in it for more than just a quick jump in the hay. Be nice to them. Invest. It will return many times over. Not all end up in the sack, but a bunch do. Others have become very satisfying friends.
GM.haven't been here long but have had about 10 freebies so far. I have two more for early January thats guaranteed. Eventually I will sttle down and stop the endless chase and will hopefully have 4 regular gfs with 2 reserves.
I totally agree about the respect angle. I treat mine as gfs, send sweet texts, and its always dinner or drinks and always great sex. These are dates and we all have nice easy enjoyable relationships. Most want to meet now and again but none so far are clingy tho all want to know my history which I'm happy to share with them. I'm looking forward to taking several nice vacations with them (one by one) throughout next year.
FreebieFan
12-15-12, 14:54
I went to Water World about 3 months ago and had a good experience. About 1400 rmb for FS. Quality girls. Upscale place.I asked my Chinese friends about this place as we were driving past one day."hey pangyou, whats this place, is it a water park or what?".
No, new foreign friend, its a sex place ".
Glad you liked it. Sorry for not exactly indication the ad position, good you finally made it.
This time I have already "obligations" but next time I will try #5.
Take care and if I can be of help with outcalls, let me know.
Gregory.Thanks again greg for the spa.
I am just back from hongkong & macau. Amazing. Will report soon.
And yes, I will welcome any help you can give for outcalls.
Cheers
Beijing. After putting a couple of hours searching some Chinese pages handling our hobby without luck (lot of sites for other city's) and based on the reports on this forum, it doesn't look like a fun place to play around in so I rebooked my trip and stayed just 1 night.
Sanatorium, well what can I say. I felt like in BKK with all the hustle and bustle and its girl shows here and there and always someone behind you trying to get you to their place, it just didn't feel like China and I fast lost interest in finding a place to take a beer in there.
The Den was next stop, pizza and a couple of beers, spotted some Mongolian girls that smiled up but except for one who was descant looking they were all on the brink to reaching best before date.
Next stop was supposed to be club Chocolate but the driver took me to maggies and I gave up explaining where I wanted to go and went in. Well the previous report seems to be correct, not that I can compare to what it was before but the quality is low. Very low. I did spot an occupied girl with a super-hot body (didn't get a god look at her face) and found one that was very doable but 1500 for a 1 pop 1 hour operation and 2500 for the night made back out. The hottest girl there was the Chinese working for the bar, but they didn't go out, so I took a walk to Chocolate.
Chocolate, as reported previously a very nice club and some really nice looking girl's from various parts of the world, most eastern Europeans, Russians but I spotted some nice black girls. The hot Russians I set my eyes on wanted 1500 for 1 hour and didn't blow without, and that's little bit of a deal breaker for me. 2500 for the night but it was late so that wasn't an option at that point, and to be honest, banging a Russian in China feels wrong and leaving, I didn't felt that I missed something. Still that club was a pleasant surprise and beat maggies by miles, reasonable drinking prices and nobody pushing for drinks.
Well I had a great time in CD, and compared the options to play there is like day and night so the Beijing part didn't matter, probably need more time and research to find some god places to play in. Maybe freebies are the way to play there, but that's definitely not my thing, they only create trouble.
Not Beijing related but after reading x pages it's a lot about freebies in this tread, but this damn freebie always finds different ways to mess things up for me, this trip to. This time we were out bar hopping and met a god English speaking hostess at in a club, a rear thing is this part of China and naturally we ended up drinking there with her friends. After a check with here what type of club it was she made it clear that it wasn't that type of club, sure there where girls that would go back to the hotel with us like any other club but she didn't have a grip of witch ones, but we had fun there, until it was show time. Up on stage came a stunning breathtaking singer with legs, face and a body to die for. Somehow we manage to get here to our table after the show (probably friends with the others) drinking, chatting, flirting with a crappy English but with help from the English speaking one we had a great time and my freebie bell started to ring, that ended with us deciding that everybody would go out eat the day after. My friends was in bad shape and wanted to skip everything, but I felt that if we promised them to take them out its really bad manners to just blow them off, it ended with me taking them out alone. Great dinner with 4 girls and later we ended up in a club drinking and dancing all night and I got some god vibes from the hottie. Didn't expect it, first time out, lot of friend around but with not that many days left I felt I had to make a move on here, I did and was shut down, she had some reason why she couldn't follow me back to the hotel, in a nice way. But still I did had a great fun time with all the girls that night, and the English speaking one took my hotel card discreetly, but I was little too drunk to put the things together at that point.
Had a couple of work days, QQ a little with the girls, excusing myself for not having time to meet them so didn't expected anything on the freebie front but on my last day in town I got a call from the English speaking one and I told her that I had to leave the day after. She insisted that we met once before I left and a dinner with here was decided. And of course miss hottie showed up at that dinner, charming as. Ohh. I had a really early flight to Beijing so I had to break up early, and at that point (after some Chinese mumbling) the English speaking one discreetly handed over my hotel biz cart to miss hottie that showed it to me with a clear intention on what she wanted to do. Well earlier that day my Chinese friend insisted that I stayed the last night at his house and that he would drive me to the airport in the morning, and in the end I couldn't refuse so I checked out and moved in to him. The disappointment in her eyes when I explained the situation was just. Well it probably hurt me more than her. The inner picture I painted up of here naked in my bed still hunts me, and to make things worse I got some professional taken pics of here to remind me of what I missed. Probably a contribution to why I didn't find anyone to play with in Beijing.
And these damn freebies found another way to mess up my life, now I am sitting and freezing I a far away country, obsessed, thinking about how to get back. And ahh! I post a pic with covered face, a little picture of what I am obsessed over, and she looks much better in real. Don't ask me about name places and so on, she is my! Precious!
Anyway Happy hunting Merry Christmas and cheers, and beware of the freebies hehehe
Gualtier Malde
12-17-12, 07:05
And totally off topic, met a 26 year old virgin today. But says she's willing to learn "something" with me as long as she stays a virgin. Yeah babyHad a great time over the course of about a year with a girl like that. She was very creative in bed, and we had some very erotic moments. But she insisted on maintaining her virginity (she was younger than 26). Her parents were government officials, which always made me nervous, and kept me from insisting on changing her status.
The really tough part is that she would put the*ck to p*ssy entrance, without penetration to the point of changing her status. This part was really tough.
Once, at a private spa (outside the country) , standing in a very romantic shower together, we found ourselves in that situation, and I entered a little deeper than usual. We thought her status changed at that moment, and for a while she was a bit freaked out.
She later told me she didn't think it broke, but to this day I actually have no idea. We stopped seeing each other shortly after that, perhaps due to her fear that she wouldn't stop the next time.
It was fun, but be careful if you want to keep her "whole". It will be difficult. You might let her know that there are operations available in China to reconnect the hymen, so if she really wants to have a virginal marriage, they can make that happen.
GM.
Gualtier Malde
12-17-12, 07:10
Hi,
Anybody out there who tried some of the girls advertising in QQ? Offerings are 300-500 for 3 hours. 600-1000 for overnight.
Are they real, is it safe to outcall, do they laowais?
Seems to be a good alternative to Angel etc.
SamWhere are these advertisements in QQ?
GM.
Sh Surprise
12-17-12, 07:30
Can anybody give me the heads up on what the go is in this Area.
Post Code: 100027It's easy to go peruse the selection of Mongolia girls at Maggies. Have a drink, enjoy the music, talk to a few girls, and pick your favorite. Negotiate hard, and enjoy an overnighter at your own room in Asia Hotel. Keep checking here to get a feel for the current rates in 2013. I can tell you Feb will be more limited in selection, because of New Years Holiday. I assume you cannot change your planned dates.
FreebieFan
12-17-12, 09:28
Where are these advertisements in QQ?
GM.If yuo try to do a search, for females in Beijing, there are many girls with suggestive pics. Then transpate what they write and it often talks about one shot for 300 or 2 for 600 and stating approx a location.
FreebieFan
12-18-12, 01:42
If yuo try to do a search, for females in Beijing, there are many girls with suggestive pics. Then transpate what they write and it often talks about one shot for 300 or 2 for 600 and stating approx a location.Memo to self. Please use spell check!
It's easy to go peruse the selection of Mongolia girls at Maggies. Have a drink, enjoy the music, talk to a few girls, and pick your favorite. Negotiate hard, and enjoy an overnighter at your own room in Asia Hotel. Keep checking here to get a feel for the current rates in 2013. I can tell you Feb will be more limited in selection, because of New Years Holiday. I assume you cannot change your planned dates.No worst luck can't change dates there on Bussiness Trade Show around end of feb 20th to 26th etc.
So where do I find Maggies? Is it far from Asia Hotel walking distance.
Thanks for the heads up. Very Helpful. Awesome
Gualtier Malde
12-18-12, 10:52
If yuo try to do a search, for females in Beijing, there are many girls with suggestive pics. Then transpate what they write and it often talks about one shot for 300 or 2 for 600 and stating approx a location.I guess I don't get it. I go to www Dot qq dot com, and see a search box at the top. I enter "females in Beijing" and am taken to a SOSU search, which brings up nothing interesting. I go to qzone dot qq dot com and see a search box at the top, but I can't seem to search for anything in it.
Where precisely are you searching in QQ?
GM.
So I've tried a few MPs that were suggested by fellow members here as well as trying several random walk-ins, and my luck has always been the same. I'm not finding myself attracted to the ladies that come in. I'll have the switch until someone tolerable comes in, then get the job done. But I'd prefer something better than "tolerable". Perhaps I am too picky. I've been to one place that someone had said was all 8+, and a 4 walked in. I immediately walked out. Is this something that is peculiar to Beijing, or am I just not going to the right places? I see tons of gorgeous women on the street, so I know it's not a problem with the local populace.
I'm not really game for outcall. If anyone has any recommendations for some nice MPs / spas please PM me.
UnoMas
I guess I don't get it. I go to.
www
Dot qq dot com, and see a search box at the top. I enter "females in Beijing" and am taken to a SOSU search, which brings up nothing interesting. I go to qzone dot qq dot com and see a search box at the top, but I can't seem to search for anything in it.
Where precisely are you searching in QQ?
GM.You have to downlaod and install qq international chat, then you can search all different city's, even specific area's in that city.
Imqq dot com
Short report I almost forgot. Used Marias service a few weeks back and booked Hao Hao for some afternoon fun. She showed up within 20 minutes of agreed time which is amazing punctuality.
Nice and friendly girl, definately the one on the website pic but picture taken a couple of years back. We stepped into the shower together for some fondling and BJ. Unusually large chest for a Chinese girl, but firm.
Multiple positions on the bed before I emptied in doggy. Sweet girl but a bit distant. Damage 600. Would definately use Marias service again but not Hao Hao.
Brooklyn Cyclone
12-18-12, 15:32
Thanks again greg for the spa.
I am just back from hongkong & macau. Amazing. Will report soon.
And yes, I will welcome any help you can give for outcalls.
CheersJust do a search in this forum, or any top search site. There are few stable providers in Beijing: Lily, Angel, Maria, all with good service and price. For more expensive, try Fiona. To me quality is about the same though.
Brooklyn Cyclone
12-18-12, 15:48
Haha, this happened to me too. Same girl, different providers. I won't mention names here so it does not look like I am bad mouthing anyone. Interesting part is second provider actually charges almost twice as much as the first one. I had a bit more control. After some quick debate in my head, sent the same girl away, after paying 100 for taxi.
Ah well, those outcalls. Believe it or not, I just got the very same girl from 2 different providers, Kitty and Maria. Doesn't necessarily mean both are the same but at least they share some common girls.
And what's really sad: the whole thing wasn't very much a GFE. The first time it took like 15 minutes altogether. Undress. 1 minute foreplay, do the deed, quick wash and off she went.
A week later the seccond time in a different hotel. When she rang at the door I was quite surprized to see a familiar face using a different provider. She was obviously also very surprized but didn't say anything. I didn't either. I know, I should've asked to change, but there I was: horny with a girl at the door and curious how it would play out this time. To make it short: she took a little bit more time and was a little bit more passionate. 20 to 25 minutes maybe. And then she insisted it would be 700 yuan.
Maybe I try another girl or provider next time. Already had a better experience with one of Angel's girls. Or maybe leave all that if there is not enough time to try the bars.
BillingFord
12-18-12, 16:31
So where do I find Maggies? Is it far from Asia Hotel walking distance.South entrance of Ritan Park. Ritan gong yuan nan men (or nan marrrrr) on Guanghua Lu. In my opinion nothing is within walking distance in Beijing, but as you're staying on Gongti Bei Lu, it's a relative short hop in a cab.
Sh Surprise
12-18-12, 17:53
So where do I find Maggies? Thanks for the heads up. Very Helpful. AwesomeBeijing Nightlife Guide dot com has a page on Maggies: Guanghua Road near Ritan Road at South Gate of Ritan Park (near Outer E 2nd Ring Road.) you may need a taxi, so the Chinese language address is shown on that website. Don't forget to bring your hotel's business card, to help you taxi home with your new friend!
Maggies is pretty relaxed, even a bit classy. BTW, there are some Chinese girls who wear dresses and nametags, I think? They are not going home with you, so don't bother buying them drinks, even though they look damn good! Stick to the Mongolians, who come in all shapes and sizes.
No worst luck can't change dates there on Bussiness Trade Show around end of feb 20th to 26th etc.
So where do I find Maggies? Is it far from Asia Hotel walking distance.
Thanks for the heads up. Very Helpful. AwesomeHere you got map for 4 places in Beijing that's been reported as WG spots here in this forum (I have never been to Vic`s).
https://maps.google.se/maps/ms?msid=203031311228217484766.0004d12fe41856a6108a9&msa=0&ll=39.920006
116. 446581&spn=0. 035744, 0.084543.
I would rather do club Chocolate than Maggies, (based on my only visit there couple of weeks ago) the Mongolians probably do a better horizontal tango than the girls there but the optic is much much better in Chocolate and the only hot one I found in Maggies quoted the same as a hot Russian but I guess the ones close best before date can be more reasonable, but its walking distance between, it's easy to check both out the same evening.
Cheers
A simple google search would show that Maggies has it's own website with a PRINT MAP icon as the ONLY link on the home page: http://www.maggiesbar.com/map.html
I visited several venues at Van Palace, then moved over to the Guomao intersection. Afterward I look south by the river and entered a couple MPs. Still no luck. All the women I had seen everywhere so far were either near 40 or blown out. So I jumped into a cab to chaoyangmen. Previous places I visited were cLosed (it was already past 2). I found one place and they did not admit to any special services. So I finally tried wateworld. After viewing a few ladies I fell upon a couple that really tickled my fancy. But then I was quoted 1500 non negotiable and had to leave as all I brought was 1k and no cards. Damn. So much effort for nothing.
I've reached out here several times with no luck. Can someone here please help a brother finda consistently high quality MP please? Any tips would be very much appreciated.
Check your PM detailed description is at the intersection of Dondaqiao Lu and Guanhua Lu.
Gregory.
I visited several venues at Van Palace, then moved over to the Guomao intersection. Afterward I look south by the river and entered a couple MPs. Still no luck. All the women I had seen everywhere so far were either near 40 or blown out. So I jumped into a cab to chaoyangmen. Previous places I visited were cLosed (it was already past 2). I found one place and they did not admit to any special services. So I finally tried wateworld. After viewing a few ladies I fell upon a couple that really tickled my fancy. But then I was quoted 1500 non negotiable and had to leave as all I brought was 1k and no cards. Damn. So much effort for nothing.
I've reached out here several times with no luck. Can someone here please help a brother finda consistently high quality MP please? Any tips would be very much appreciated.
You cats ever worry about surveillance in your hotel rooms? Each time I go, it's quite obviously I'm being monitored. Guy shows up in the room 5 min after I leave to 'fix' the thermostat (which wasn't broken). Every day. If I mention the fridge isn't working out loud, it's fixed the next day (I never called, just spoke it out loud in the room) , etc.
Never worried about it. Never even thought about it. Must be something you do to draw attention. 4 years of fucking in Shanghai and a little in Beijing. Never.
You cats ever worry about surveillance in your hotel rooms? Each time I go, it's quite obviously I'm being monitored. Guy shows up in the room 5 min after I leave to 'fix' the thermostat (which wasn't broken). Every day. If I mention the fridge isn't working out loud, it's fixed the next day (I never called, just spoke it out loud in the room) , etc.
After going to waterworld and getting presented with a super hot 9, the number quoted was more than I had brought. I came again the next day with enough cash but they made it clear to me that it was 1500 for one pop and another 1500 to continue. Since I didn't want to spend 3k on 10 minutes, I finally gave up on this joint despite the quality that was available.
So I headed down to chaoyangmen to try an establishment I had had some luck with before. Unlike water world, there are not 4 nervous guys in suits following you around. In fact its was empty accept for a pretty female attendant that took me to the room, which had a hot tub and bed and was nicely appointed in a more feminine way, similar to legit places like Long Island. They sent in the girls, and after I sent of the second one, the attendant informed me that their rule is that you can only see three. The first time I went there and fell for it, and ended with a tolerable girl from Henan. This time I figured to keep pushing, so she asked me to follow her to speak with her boss. We ran into a smoking hot specimen in the hall way and I asked if she could do the massage. She excitedly said yes before the attendant had a chance to speak. I was now very excited myself as it seemed that this stunner actually had eyes for me. We go back to the room, decide on 2 hours for as many pops as possible for 1k. Man, she was nice, super GFE, very playful and free, in fact she gave me her number and asked me to call her afterward. She came 4 times during the endeavor, whole body shaking like an epileptic. I managed 3 myself. Really really nice experience after all the bullshit I ran into recently.
You cats ever worry about surveillance in your hotel rooms? Each time I go, it's quite obviously I'm being monitored. Guy shows up in the room 5 min after I leave to 'fix' the thermostat (which wasn't broken). Every day. If I mention the fridge isn't working out loud, it's fixed the next day (I never called, just spoke it out loud in the room) , etc.What I worry about is that all these parlors and hotels and spas are taping everything, and using facial recognition to create a centralized DB of all activity. So if anyone is or becomes rich or powerful, theyve got a great tool to generate political scandal or extort money. I know this definitely happens in a targeted fashion to delegations and conferences, but who knows if it is pervasive at all times.
Gualtier Malde
12-22-12, 07:59
You cats ever worry about surveillance in your hotel rooms? Each time I go, it's quite obviously I'm being monitored. Guy shows up in the room 5 min after I leave to 'fix' the thermostat (which wasn't broken). Every day. If I mention the fridge isn't working out loud, it's fixed the next day (I never called, just spoke it out loud in the room) , etc.The only time I ever worried was when I was on a secret mission for the Treadstone Project. Other than that one time, when I had to take out a dangerous rogue asset that was about to blow the cover on our entire operation, I've never worried.
Bring up iTunes on your iPhone, set it to randomly repeat tracks on a hard metal playlist, and tape the phone right next to the thermostat (that's the most popular place to plant Chinese listening devices. It doesn't have to play very loud to totally scramble any signal going back to the assigned monitor.
It's what we super agents were trained to do, and it works like a charm.
GM.
ps: It is no coincidence that this was post 700 for me. Read it backwards. Yeah. That's me.
This. Absolutely fucking loved it. I've been back in the us and went to my favorite sauna and fucked a lovely korean lady. Not the youngest. But she can fuck me out in an hour. If you guys don't get any korean pussy while in the us too gd bad. It's here and it's good. It'll take 200 us$. I'm back in Shanghai early Jan.
The only time I ever worried was when I was on a secret mission for the Treadstone Project. Other than that one time, when I had to take out a dangerous rogue asset that was about to blow the cover on our entire operation, I've never worried.
Bring up iTunes on your iPhone, set it to randomly repeat tracks on a hard metal playlist, and tape the phone right next to the thermostat (that's the most popular place to plant Chinese listening devices. It doesn't have to play very loud to totally scramble any signal going back to the assigned monitor.
It's what we super agents were trained to do, and it works like a charm.
GM.
Ps: It is no coincidence that this was post 700 for me. Read it backwards. Yeah. That's me.
Wow, no kidding. Either you're incredibly un-observant, or the folks I travel with are far more interesting than one would have been led to believe.
The only time I ever worried was when I was on a secret mission for the Treadstone Project. Other than that one time, when I had to take out a dangerous rogue asset that was about to blow the cover on our entire operation, I've never worried.
Bring up iTunes on your iPhone, set it to randomly repeat tracks on a hard metal playlist, and tape the phone right next to the thermostat (that's the most popular place to plant Chinese listening devices. It doesn't have to play very loud to totally scramble any signal going back to the assigned monitor.
It's what we super agents were trained to do, and it works like a charm.
GM.
Ps: It is no coincidence that this was post 700 for me. Read it backwards. Yeah. That's me.
FreebieFan
12-23-12, 05:01
Driving in Wanjing today and drove past the perfectly named " Ball touch massage and spa.". Presumably it does as advertised?
I went to the Paradise massage in Maizidian and it was good. Prostate massage and HE, felt so damn good. I got the special off the menu and it cost me 600RMB and 200RMB for the HE. Too pricey, but I guess it gives me confidence as that price must be paying off the PSB not to come charging in.
Greg, I paid attention to the Sakura and still not attempting the Wangjing New Town quite yet as I am not sure if this is a big place which keeps the PSB from raiding mid HJ session.
I wanted to try the Guanghua Lu place but I have a feeling it will also be 500RMB for a massage. Is there any other SPA's like the Waterworld that they can recommend? All I want is a BJ or Breast Massage. Does the Number 8 Springs provide or can anyone else recommend a place a maseusse's number who will 100 per cent provide service?
FreebieFan
12-23-12, 15:31
Met a lady today. 29, near a mall, as she proudly wanted to use her new car. Her parking was so totally and utterly bad that I had to park it for her.
Later she offered to drive me home, and I was terrified.
Her lane management was non existent, her indication skill was random ("oh am I supposed to indicate left to turn left, I didn't know that " she actually said ).
Her knowledge of her cars lights was less than poor." Why can't I drive on full beam all the time / how do I know if my lights are on / why shouldn't I use fog lights, its dark outside".
When I asked if she ever used her wing mirrors to check traffic she blithely said " no, its too tiring to look there and drive as well ".
She asked me what the red triangle light was for, and whether she could disable the hand brake as it was a hassle to lift it up and down whenever she parked.
Anyays her seats were warm and she didn't seem to mind me fiddling with her clothing as we drove so it wasnt all bad.
Girl was maybe an 7, driving skills were definately a 1. Car was a 4. LOL
Met a lady today. 29, near a mall, as she proudly wanted to use her new car. Her parking was so totally and utterly bad that I had to park it for her.
Later she offered to drive me home, and I was terrified.
Her lane management was non existent, her indication skill was random ("oh am I supposed to indicate left to turn left, I didn't know that " she actually said ).
Her knowledge of her cars lights was less than poor." Why can't I drive on full beam all the time / how do I know if my lights are on / why shouldn't I use fog lights, its dark outside".
When I asked if she ever used her wing mirrors to check traffic she blithely said " no, its too tiring to look there and drive as well ".
She asked me what the red triangle light was for, and whether she could disable the hand brake as it was a hassle to lift it up and down whenever she parked.
Anyays her seats were warm and she didn't seem to mind me fiddling with her clothing as we drove so it wasnt all bad.
Girl was maybe an 7, driving skills were definately a 1. Car was a 4. LOLThe question should be,"Have you ever seen a good driver in Beijing?" Bad driving is the norm here. I guess I prefer bad driving skills to bad blowjob skills though. LOL
The big tit girl I posted in the photo gallery is a nice part timer. She has a day job and only meets guys a few times a month. I have played with her several times and she is very sweet. If anyone in Beijing is interested in meeting up with her let me know. She isn't too expensive and loves sex. She doesn't allow kissing her or anal but she gives great BBBJ. She requires condoms for fucking. She prefers guys who are not too old-around 40 or under is best, maybe up to 45.
She also told me she would consider a gangbang so I thought if any other guys might be interested we can do an ISG member gangbang at my place. Otherwise, anybody who might want to do one on one with her let me know.
The big tit girl I posted in the photo gallery is a nice part timer. She has a day job and only meets guys a few times a month. I have played with her several times and she is very sweet. If anyone in Beijing is interested in meeting up with her let me know. She isn't too expensive and loves sex. She doesn't allow kissing her or anal but she gives great BBBJ. She requires condoms for fucking. She prefers guys who are not too old-around 40 or under is best, maybe up to 45.
She also told me she would consider a gangbang so I thought if any other guys might be interested we can do an ISG member gangbang at my place. Otherwise, anybody who might want to do one on one with her let me know.I am surprised she doesn't like "elders" like me. Rumour has it that shady ladies prefered us because we were more gentle.
Thanks for the invite to the gangbang. Miclac is probably a great humanitarian but I would prefer not to be around watching his arse go up and down.
BTW I never got an answer to my question why don't providers reply to emailed reservations. I have now made seven emailed requests using the function on the provider's website (3 in Qingdao / 4 in Beijing) but only received one reply.
Happy belated Festivus
FreebieFan
12-26-12, 03:12
Had a few beverages on Christmas day afternoon whilst pleasantly chatting with a 22 year old Filipina who I had previously bedded. Wasnt sure if she was amenable to a quick romp in Home Inn, but I decided against it.
Headed to Sanlitun and played the WeChat lok around function and within 5 minutes I'm chatting with 3, eventually making a dinner date with one. We will see how that goes.
Meanwhile a lady who I had previously dated twice (without even trying to hold hands with her LOL) showed strong interest in joining me.
Totally gorgeous girl and I had thought she was out of my league but guess she likes the older man.
She shows up just before happy hour ends, so we ordered a few mojitos to get the ball rolling.
3 of these and she was rolling.
Totally and utterly drunk. Basically had to carry her to the "Great Taxi Rip Off " area, where some dumb twat suggested a fare of RMB 100 would be ok from Sanlitun to Dongzhimen. My Christmas spirit at this time had worn off as I suggested he do a few things to himself.
Meanwhile a rickshaw guy was fine with RMB20. Which we know is still a rip off but hot girl wasnt able to walk so lets go, we said.
Rickshaw ride at 1am was the coldest thing I've done in years. But we get to my place, girl heads to bed. 30 minutes later she's awake and we start a long night of passion. Perfect body, happy sweet girl. I think she wil be in my bed quite often in the future. A great Christmas Day indeed.
Gualtier Malde
12-27-12, 04:16
Wow, no kidding. Either you're incredibly un-observant, or the folks I travel with are far more interesting than one would have been led to believe.No, I'm an incredibly experienced, long time China hand. And you appear to be an incredibly irritating newb. Enjoy your paranoia.
GM.
FreebieFan
12-27-12, 05:19
No, I'm an incredibly experienced, long time China hand. And you appear to be an incredibly irritating newb. Enjoy your paranoia.
GM.Well said GM!
No, I'm an incredibly experienced, long time China hand. And you appear to be an incredibly irritating newb. Enjoy your paranoia.
GM.
Well said, indeed.
Sebvad, don't get caught in this and hit China "on the wrong leg" from the start. You might be important, but probably not THAT important. I am enjoying mongering in China since many years and still get my visa renewed every year. Got it?
Lev
The big tit girl I posted in the photo gallery is a nice part timer. She has a day job and only meets guys a few times a month. I have played with her several times and she is very sweet. If anyone in Beijing is interested in meeting up with her let me know. She isn't too expensive and loves sex. She doesn't allow kissing her or anal but she gives great BBBJ. She requires condoms for fucking. She prefers guys who are not too old-around 40 or under is best, maybe up to 45.
She also told me she would consider a gangbang so I thought if any other guys might be interested we can do an ISG member gangbang at my place. Otherwise, anybody who might want to do one on one with her let me know. How can I get in contact with this girl?
I was looking for s / l term relationship but instead I'm getting solicited a lot from CL (Beijing section) since I started using it recently, has anyone had much experience with it. Fearing I'm going to get jacked. I'd hate to lose my wallet, would hate it even more losing my pride. Any tips advice would be welcome. Are the descriptions and images of these people always fake?
I was looking for s / l term relationship but instead I'm getting solicited a lot from CL (Beijing section) since I started using it recently, has anyone had much experience with it. Fearing I'm going to get jacked. I'd hate to lose my wallet, would hate it even more losing my pride. Any tips advice would be welcome. Are the descriptions and images of these people always fake?I am still in Beijing and I used CL before I came to China. I posted a message and asked for a female tourguide who also joined me to my hotel. Must say I was very succesfull in Shanghai and Beijing. Got a cute girl for 2 nights in Shanghai and 2 nice girls in Beijng. Will post foto's later.
Don't trust the women seeking men section, this is really fake.
I was looking for s / l term relationship but instead I'm getting solicited a lot from CL (Beijing section) since I started using it recently, has anyone had much experience with it. Fearing I'm going to get jacked. I'd hate to lose my wallet, would hate it even more losing my pride. Any tips advice would be welcome. Are the descriptions and images of these people always fake?Thanks to SpudCrazy and Camieleke for bringing up Craiglist. I tried one of the girls today. She was young and a bit immature. I get the feeling she has been on the game for only 3-4 months (based on her website details). Her images were real, and I felt safe visiting her apartment.
Use your common sense contacting these girls and you should be okay.
Headed to Sanlitun and played the WeChat lok around function and within 5 minutes I'm chatting with 3, eventually making a dinner date with one. We will see how that goes.Hi Freebie,
I guess you prove using the right tools is key. You mind sharing which website and apps you have been using so successfully?
Am based in Singapore and besides DIA, Skout (cellphone based app) yields very good results. Have yet to use blender. I know different countries mean different tools as well though.
Thanks
Loveasiangirls
12-30-12, 20:34
Hi Freebie,
I guess you prove using the right tools is key. You mind sharing which website and apps you have been using so successfully?
Am based in Singapore and besides DIA, Skout (cellphone based app) yields very good results. Have yet to use blender. I know different countries mean different tools as well though.
ThanksAny dating website will do or classifieds. You just need to work at it, that is the real secret. I found DIA a bit of a waste of time. Mobile apps seems to be mostly populated with WG.
FreebieFan
12-31-12, 01:48
Hi Freebie,
I guess you prove using the right tools is key. You mind sharing which website and apps you have been using so successfully?
Am based in Singapore and besides DIA, Skout (cellphone based app) yields very good results. Have yet to use blender. I know different countries mean different tools as well though.
ThanksI use many, and all seem to have some effect. The list of what I use and where is extensive. The key is perseverance and being the right person at the right time, and of course being nice. Few sweet sms or bbm or viber or wechat words seems to have a great effect.
Saturday here was an especially good day. Woke up with a super sweet and nice 28 year old in her apartment and went to bed with a super tasty 28 year old. And they werent the same girl LOL
Well said GM!Sorry mate, going back and reading it, it's not how I meant to sound. No offense meant; my apologies!
FreebieFan
12-31-12, 08:30
Sorry mate, going back and reading it, it's not how I meant to sound. No offense meant; my apologies!Whilst I wasnt the one who made the original comment, I'm impressed that someone can admit their own error.
Good work on fronting up and apologising. Yoy got style.
Happy new year to all our brothers here.
May 2013 be filled with the promise of pussy. And hope you all get some tonight!
Any dating website will do or classifieds. You just need to work at it, that is the real secret. I found DIA a bit of a waste of time. Mobile apps seems to be mostly populated with WG.Thanks guys. I have no doubt using dating sites brings a good ROI but am sure as you pointed out that some are more efficient than others, hence my my specific question.
Does anyone have any info on where to get reliable viagra or cialis (or genuine generics) in Beijing without needing a second mortgage?
FreebieFan
01-01-13, 04:20
Does anyone have any info on where to get reliable viagra or cialis (or genuine generics) in Beijing without needing a second mortgage?I hope someone responds to you with an answer to this. Pills can be found in all pharmacies here, but the price is a different matter.
You could do as I do and stock up on kamagra tablets and gel on Bangkok trips. For the price paid there, it can't be beaten.
does anyone have any info on where to get reliable viagra or cialis (or genuine generics) in beijing without needing a second mortgage?ok guys, here's a little secret (maybe). i discovered a chinese potion a year or so ago. haven't seen it mentioned here so hope this is helpful to all who require, or desire, an extra
boost. i know there will be those who doubt the legitamacy of chinese concoctions, but i am here to tell you that this stuff is the real deal. points for; won't get you hard in the subway or any other embarrassing situation (you won't be accused of frodiging) needs some stimulation (perfect) no side effects, (blue vision etc.) will keep you up for maybe 4/5 hours, (need more than that, you have a problem) easy to take and cheap.
against; will raise your bp (as all of these things do) has to be ordered in bulk (stores well) can be difficult to get the cap off new bottle (cut the locking circle with a knife or sharp instrument) works for both sexes (yahoo) but be aware can give her the feeling of being pissed. (make sure she agrees fellas) don't want a date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) accusation later.
so, i have never even considered the chemical alternatives in china, not only many bad side effects, but dangerous i believe.
the name of this little miracle worker is "the kings tonic", i get it through a chinese friend, so you might have to research the supplier, or if necessary, you
can pm me, maybe i can get it for you, must order at least 2 boxes of 5 bottles, each bottle contains 100ml, you need 25ml per session (in my experience) but you have to work out the dosage that does the job for you.
this is the herbal potion that the emporers used, some had many hundreds of beautiful wives, and although the desire was there, the old fella was often non co-operative.
hope this is a help to some bros.
happy hunting in 2013.
ScootScoot
01-01-13, 07:31
After going to waterworld and getting presented with a super hot 9, the number quoted was more than I had brought. I came again the next day with enough cash but they made it clear to me that it was 1500 for one pop and another 1500 to continue. Since I didn't want to spend 3k on 10 minutes, I finally gave up on this joint despite the quality that was available.
So I headed down to chaoyangmen to try an establishment I had had some luck with before. Unlike water world, there are not 4 nervous guys in suits following you around. In fact its was empty accept for a pretty female attendant that took me to the room, which had a hot tub and bed and was nicely appointed in a more feminine way, similar to legit places like Long Island. They sent in the girls, and after I sent of the second one, the attendant informed me that their rule is that you can only see three. The first time I went there and fell for it, and ended with a tolerable girl from Henan. This time I figured to keep pushing, so she asked me to follow her to speak with her boss. We ran into a smoking hot specimen in the hall way and I asked if she could do the massage. She excitedly said yes before the attendant had a chance to speak. I was now very excited myself as it seemed that this stunner actually had eyes for me. We go back to the room, decide on 2 hours for as many pops as possible for 1k. Man, she was nice, super GFE, very playful and free, in fact she gave me her number and asked me to call her afterward. She came 4 times during the endeavor, whole body shaking like an epileptic. I managed 3 myself. Really really nice experience after all the bullshit I ran into recently.I've been a long time viewer, se asia joe can verify that I'm not a newbie from another similar forum that is based out of Hong Kong. Can you please provide more details regards to this new establishment that you are speaking of. I live in Beijing, and I'm sure you can understand the unfair conditions which we have to work with here. Quite unlike Shanghai, rather it's the exact opposite.
If you could share with us, it would be great. Probably going to hop over to the 400's in Wanjing later. Can anyone recommend anything in Wanjing or anywhere with some nicer rooms, slightly more upscale oil massage like the ones that you would find in Shanghai? Just looking for a nice massage by a slutty girl, happy ending HJ or BJ should be included.
Does anyone have any info on where to get reliable viagra or cialis (or genuine generics) in Beijing without needing a second mortgage?Check the Classifieds for ISG member Kajos. I use Cialis myself successfully. Just PM him he, is easy to contact and meet.
GregoryB
Hope you all had a great new year.
I'll be flying to Beijing in a couple days, and I'm curious about trying something new. I've heard of nuru massage in japan, where you and the masseuse are covered head to toe in oil and enjoying full body contact. Is there anything similar available in Beijing?
Cheers,
UnoMas
Erasmus B Dragin
01-01-13, 12:50
I hope someone responds to you with an answer to this. Pills can be found in all pharmacies here, but the price is a different matter.
You could do as I do and stock up on kamagra tablets and gel on Bangkok trips. For the price paid there, it can't be beaten.Oh, it can be beaten!
You can purchase online here in the PR of C for less. Taobao is the best option, though you'll need to know Chinese or use software translation via Google Chrome, etc). You can buy 4 20mg tabs of tadalafil (generic Cialis) for just rmb10 plus rmb8 shipping here: (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.7.AkUU7F&id=21916324292). A 4 pack of 100mg Kamagra is rmb10 here (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.17.Nwt3qY&id=10565937957). Can you buy 4 Kamagra tabs for 45 baht on Sukhumvit? I don't think so!
More convenient, but not as cheap is fake Viagra & Cialis widely available in sex shops as is sildenafil (generic name for Viagra) labeled otherwise. I've used one labeled "Vigour" that I can recommend. Just step into any sex shop and inquire. If they show you the most expensive option first (Genuine Viagra, for example) , tell them you want their best seller. Chinese consumers are very cost-conscious so you should be able to find something for rmb10 or less for 100mg tabs. If they quote higher prices just thank them and turn to leave; they may offer a lower price as you walk away.
The final option is any pharmacy. Most of them carry genuine V, but you can also find generics in some pharmacies. Prices will typically be a bit higher than in Sex Shops.
Loveasiangirls
01-02-13, 21:50
Thanks guys. I have no doubt using dating sites brings a good ROI but am sure as you pointed out that some are more efficient than others, hence my my specific question.I probably tried most of them. I can't think of one that is better. It is all about luck, perseverance and using your charms.
Oh, it can be beaten!
You can purchase online here in the PR of C for less. Taobao is the best option, though you'll need to know Chinese or use software translation via Google Chrome, etc). You can buy 4 20mg tabs of tadalafil (generic Cialis) for just rmb10 plus rmb8 shipping here: (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.7.AkUU7F&id=21916324292). A 4 pack of 100mg Kamagra is rmb10 here (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.17.Nwt3qY&id=10565937957). Can you buy 4 Kamagra tabs for 45 baht on Sukhumvit? I don't think so!
More convenient, but not as cheap is fake Viagra & Cialis widely available in sex shops as is sildenafil (generic name for Viagra) labeled otherwise. I've used one labeled "Vigour" that I can recommend. Just step into any sex shop and inquire. If they show you the most expensive option first (Genuine Viagra, for example) , tell them you want their best seller. Chinese consumers are very cost-conscious so you should be able to find something for rmb10 or less for 100mg tabs. If they quote higher prices just thank them and turn to leave; they may offer a lower price as you walk away.
The final option is any pharmacy. Most of them carry genuine V, but you can also find generics in some pharmacies. Prices will typically be a bit higher than in Sex Shops.I am not familiar with Kamagra. Is it a substitute for Viagra? More or less the same or more potent?
ok guys, here's a little secret (maybe). i discovered a chinese potion a year or so ago. haven't seen it mentioned here so hope this is helpful to all who require, or desire, an extra
boost. i know there will be those who doubt the legitamacy of chinese concoctions, but i am here to tell you that this stuff is the real deal. points for; won't get you hard in the subway or any other embarrassing situation (you won't be accused of frodiging) needs some stimulation (perfect) no side effects, (blue vision etc.) will keep you up for maybe 4/5 hours, (need more than that, you have a problem) easy to take and cheap.
against; will raise your bp (as all of these things do) has to be ordered in bulk (stores well) can be difficult to get the cap off new bottle (cut the locking circle with a knife or sharp instrument) works for both sexes (yahoo) but be aware can give her the feeling of being pissed. (make sure she agrees fellas) don't want a date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) accusation later.
so, i have never even considered the chemical alternatives in china, not only many bad side effects, but dangerous i believe.
the name of this little miracle worker is "the kings tonic", i get it through a chinese friend, so you might have to research the supplier, or if necessary, you
can pm me, maybe i can get it for you, must order at least 2 boxes of 5 bottles, each bottle contains 100ml, you need 25ml per session (in my experience) but you have to work out the dosage that does the job for you.
this is the herbal potion that the emporers used, some had many hundreds of beautiful wives, and although the desire was there, the old fella was often non co-operative.
hope this is a help to some bros.
happy hunting in 2013.i can't find it or anything like it on-line. how would i get it in china as i will be there in late january.
Thanks for this. I did meet him. Fast and friendly service. Recommended.
Check the Classifieds for ISG member Kajos. I use Cialis myself successfully. Just PM him he, is easy to contact and meet.
GregoryB
Wangjing Xincheng 325 & 303.
In addition to the 400s, there are a few good MPs in the 300s.
325: this building has 2 main entrances, go to the entrance to on right side as you face building. (Closest entrance to Gate) The place is right in lobby as you walk in, just to the left side. No. 9 is quite pretty and sweet. No 19 cute and frisky.
303: close by to 325, near Communications Bank. It is on first floor. As you walk in lobby, it is first place on right (there is another MP off lobby at the left / back, but have not tried it) No. 18 is a beauty and playful.
I've been a long time viewer, se asia joe can verify that I'm not a newbie from another similar forum that is based out of Hong Kong. Can you please provide more details regards to this new establishment that you are speaking of. I live in Beijing, and I'm sure you can understand the unfair conditions which we have to work with here. Quite unlike Shanghai, rather it's the exact opposite.
If you could share with us, it would be great. Probably going to hop over to the 400's in Wanjing later. Can anyone recommend anything in Wanjing or anywhere with some nicer rooms, slightly more upscale oil massage like the ones that you would find in Shanghai? Just looking for a nice massage by a slutty girl, happy ending HJ or BJ should be included.
Its my pleasure.
I will meet him also for new supply Jan19.
Gregory.
Thanks for this. I did meet him. Fast and friendly service. Recommended.
I am sorry if I had repeated my post here, as the BJ hotels thread has not been active.
As the title suggested, these two hotels used to be girl-unfriendly, especially the Great Wall, anyone has update on them? I found it is really hard to find a good hotel in BJ that has easy access from airport and easy to get a taxi. I have tried many different hotels and usually very hard to get to from airport 5pm, and hard to get a taxi Friday evening, so I though I would have try these used-to-be-girl-unfriendly hotels, as they are in the best locations.
OS
I can't find it or anything like it on-line. How would I get it in China as I will be there in late January.I too tried to find The King's Tonic online, with no luck. Then sent a PM but as per today no news yet.
ShaveThatThing
01-03-13, 22:57
Brothers in minds,
As I'll have to go to beautiful China quite often this year, I was wondering if there is any chance to get in touch with (willing) girls before and establish some leasure contacts.
Seems like all the programs don't really work from abroad. And qq? I AM registered now, still I can't find that dangling field to type in "females in xxx".
Any advise is highly appreciated!
Rock on!
SE Asia Joe
01-04-13, 04:07
I've been a long time viewer, se asia joe can verify that I'm not a newbie from another similar forum that is based out of Hong Kong. Can you please provide more details regards to this new establishment that you are speaking of. I live in Beijing, and I'm sure you can understand the unfair conditions which we have to work with here. Quite unlike Shanghai, rather it's the exact opposite.
If you could share with us, it would be great. Probably going to hop over to the 400's in Wanjing later. Can anyone recommend anything in Wanjing or anywhere with some nicer rooms, slightly more upscale oil massage like the ones that you would find in Shanghai? Just looking for a nice massage by a slutty girl, happy ending HJ or BJ should be included.Welcome to ISG Scoot! A bit different here right?
Since my own knowledge about Beijing is nowadays Zilch, I would appreciate it if you guys here would accommodate my friend; he IS an experienced monger with extensive experiences. Mostly in Shanghai. But had only moved to Beijing the past year and thus not yet very familiar with the way things are there.
Being now "on-the-ground" so to speak, I am very sure that he will be a valuable addition to the information flow about Beijing in this board soon.
Thanks and Regards.
SEAJ
Erasmus B Dragin
01-04-13, 07:50
The best walk-in price I've seen for genuine-imitation Cialis is at a little store a few doors east of the 3rd ring road in a small street that runs just south of the canal next to Lufthansa center. Heading north passing Hard Rock Cafe (RIP) , take the first right and it's the last small shop on your right in a row of several, maybe 50-70 meters from the 3rd RR. From the outside it looks like an ordinary convenience store, but as you enter you'll see a display with sex toys & devices. Just ask for Cialis (Xili shi). He'll probably quote you a higher price but will settle for rmb120 for a bottle of 10 20mg tabs. He also has some fake Viagra products for less, though I have not used them so can not recommend.
Eli Lilly's US Cialis patent will expire in March. If it is not extended, this will make generic tadalafil (Cialis) legal and cheap in the US.
Interested to try Tadalafil order from Taobao, however below link seems not to go to Tadalafil, rather re-direct to some other site. Kamagra link works.
Can anyone recommend tested & proven Tadalafil vendors in Taobao?
Knob.
Oh, it can be beaten!
You can purchase online here in the PR of C for less. Taobao is the best option, though you'll need to know Chinese or use software translation via Google Chrome, etc). You can buy 4 20mg tabs of tadalafil (generic Cialis) for just rmb10 plus rmb8 shipping here: (
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.7.AkUU7F&id=21916324292
). A 4 pack of 100mg Kamagra is rmb10 here (
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.17.Nwt3qY&id=10565937957
). Can you buy 4 Kamagra tabs for 45 baht on Sukhumvit? I don't think so!
More convenient, but not as cheap is fake Viagra & Cialis widely available in sex shops as is sildenafil (generic name for Viagra) labeled otherwise. I've used one labeled "Vigour" that I can recommend. Just step into any sex shop and inquire. If they show you the most expensive option first (Genuine Viagra, for example) , tell them you want their best seller. Chinese consumers are very cost-conscious so you should be able to find something for rmb10 or less for 100mg tabs. If they quote higher prices just thank them and turn to leave; they may offer a lower price as you walk away.
The final option is any pharmacy. Most of them carry genuine V, but you can also find generics in some pharmacies. Prices will typically be a bit higher than in Sex Shops.
Vera Petrova
01-05-13, 03:40
A few days back, I came over to Beijing for flight transfer. It was just a short stay of 5 hours. But I did not want to lose the chance fucking a pussy
During the waiting time. So text to Kitty asking for Sally couple of days before my journey and was told it was ok, but she's not sure whether Sally's
Available that day or not. So Kitty suggested if Sally's not available she'd arrange another girl for me according to my demand. It's ok but I emphasized
That Sally must arrive on time, almost at the same time while I would be checking in, for it was just a 5 hours' short stay. Kitty promised. Before went
Aboard, I send Kitty a message again for reminder, she responded promptly saying it would be ok and Sally's available that afternoon. That's fine.
Unfortunately, the fright delayed for about 40 mins, so once I landed, I sent at once a message to Kitty informing that Sally can arrive at my booked hotel
40 mins late for the delay. But it was too late, I was told Sally'd already arrived on time. When hurrying to my hotel, I was just about to apologize for my
Late, Sally smiled politely and gave me a warm hug. She's a skinny pretty young lady, wonderful BBBJ and GFE, turned out to be a very nice experience. Well
Worth every penny of the CNY 600.
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I like your report and your clever logistics.
But if you have a stay over to go to any hotel outside of the airport takes a lot of time.
Can you tell a "rookie" in this logistics:
Which Hotel did you book? Did you book in advance?
How did you get the girl to find it?
Thanks
Gregory.
A few days back, I came over to Beijing for flight transfer. It was just a short stay of 5 hours. But I did not want to lose the chance fucking a pussy
During the waiting time. So text to Kitty asking for Sally couple of days before my journey and was told it was ok, but she's not sure whether Sally's
Available that day or not. So Kitty suggested if Sally's not available she'd arrange another girl for me according to my demand. It's ok but I emphasized
That Sally must arrive on time, almost at the same time while I would be checking in, for it was just a 5 hours' short stay. Kitty promised. Before went
Aboard, I send Kitty a message again for reminder, she responded promptly saying it would be ok and Sally's available that afternoon. That's fine.
Unfortunately, the fright delayed for about 40 mins, so once I landed, I sent at once a message to Kitty informing that Sally can arrive at my booked hotel
40 mins late for the delay. But it was too late, I was told Sally'd already arrived on time. When hurrying to my hotel, I was just about to apologize for my
Late, Sally smiled politely and gave me a warm hug. She's a skinny pretty young lady, wonderful BBBJ and GFE, turned out to be a very nice experience. Well
Worth every penny of the CNY 600.
===========================================
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After 2 months of no replies to my emails I received 5 in 2 days. One from a possible freebie and 4 from escorts. I made an appointment with an escort whose photo was very cute and who was willing to indulge 2 of my many fetishes. I turned up at the neutral venue and was greeted by a MILF who said she would take me to my date. I assumed this was the mamasan. In the taxi the MILF offered me her email. I explained some of my interests and discovered she was willing to indulge 3 of my many fetishes. I asked her to swap with the first girl. Back to the MILF's apartment for 4 hours of really good fun. She had the biggest clit I have ever experienced.
The MILF was so good I made another appointment today. I mentioned another of my many fetishes. She initially said no. Then about 5 minutes later she actually offered to try it next time.
The curious thing is that I can't find any advertisement for the MILF on the internet. She did say where she advertised but I obviously didn't hear correctly.
BTW. According to the internet there are 4 anal queens in Beijing (Sammi, Betty, Rebecca and Chunjie). Has anyone tried them?
IMHO all this forum talk about Viagra etc is a waste. Viagra was created for a specific medical problem such as the side-effects of prostate cancer treatment. I am sure 99% of the guys viewing this don't have a problem. If you get a boner when a girl strokes your penis then you don't need a boner pill.
SE Asia Joe
01-05-13, 18:08
A.
IMHO all this forum talk about Viagra etc is a waste. Viagra was created for a specific medical problem such as the side-effects of prostate cancer treatment. I am sure 99% of the guys viewing this don't have a problem. If you get a boner when a girl strokes your penis then you don't need a boner pill.HUH?
Where did you get the idea that Viagra was created for what you say it was created for?
Actually it was "discovered" quite by accident by this little old lady researcher working with her team at the Pfizer plant in Sandwich, Kent, U. K. She was researching / looking for a compound to treat hypertension, thrombosis, angina etc and just by pure accident / chance, they discovered that the compound they were working on, Sildenafil Citrate, directly caused penile erection. And the rest is of course history.
And haven't you heard Hugh Hefner's comment that Viagra is the best recreation drug he knows of?
SEAN
AnotherUglyOne
01-05-13, 22:15
Sorry for the newbie question but will be in Beijing one night only. Sunday. And not until 11 PM at that. I wonder whether the various traveland nightlife web sites are correct that list Maggies hours as 10 AM. 4 PM. Is this correct even for a Sunday night?
HUH?
Where did you get the idea that Viagra was created for what you say it was created for?Okay, point taken."Created" was the wrong word to use. But it does not negate my belief that most guys reading this forum don't need Viagra etc. I am 57years old with diagnosed prostate cancer, and I don't need Viagra. IMHO people are taking this medicine for a problem that does not exist.
Just lay back and let the feeling flow and your pecker will come to the party.
HUH?
Where did you get the idea that Viagra was created for what you say it was created for?
Actually it was "discovered" quite by accident by this little old lady researcher working with her team at the Pfizer plant in Sandwich, Kent, U. K. She was researching / looking for a compound to treat hypertension, thrombosis, angina etc and just by pure accident / chance, they discovered that the compound they were working on, Sildenafil Citrate, directly caused penile erection. And the rest is of course history.
And haven't you heard Hugh Hefner's comment that Viagra is the best recreation drug he knows of?
SEANSean,
Your are correct about they were seeking a drug to counter hypertension aka high blood pressure. It was totally discover by accident. When they were testing the drug in the 90's most the the men complained that it gave them a woody.
Vera Petrova
01-06-13, 05:20
I like your report and your clever logistics.
But if you have a stay over to go to any hotel outside of the airport takes a lot of time.
Can you tell a "rookie" in this logistics:
Which Hotel did you book? Did you book in advance?
How did you get the girl to find it?
Thanks
Gregory.GB,
Here's the answer to your three questions.
I booked Capital Airport Hotel located within the premises of Beijing Airport. 1.2 km from the airport terminal. There are, of course, several other hotels available, just search them on the Internet.
Surely, you need to book in advance. And you need to calculate the time when the girl should be there. Say that you land at 4 pm, and it will take you 20 minutes to the hotel you book, and you need 10 minutes to check in. So you better ask her to arrive there at 4:30 pm or a bit late.
It's easy. Just send Kitty the phone number of the reception counter of your hotel. So she can, if need, make a phone to see what hotel it is and how to get there.
VP
SE Asia Joe
01-06-13, 07:07
Okay, point taken."Created" was the wrong word to use. But it does not negate my belief that most guys reading this forum don't need Viagra etc. I am 57years old with diagnosed prostate cancer, and I don't need Viagra. IMHO people are taking this medicine for a problem that does not exist.
Just lay back and let the feeling flow and your pecker will come to the party.Yes, agree that some guys don't need it (not sure about "most" though!). And in fact, I would think that a lot of us uses it for its "recreational" value.
I started taking it AFTER I've had a tryst or another, and was, afraid when coming coming home that the SO is going to be staying up / waiting for me to do some loving. But as I have read that such ED drugs can cause some measure of dependency (whether actually physical or just mental) I have so far refrained from using it until after my first pop.
And second pops (and third, and fourth, and - LOL!) in a short period of time is what I primarily use it for, and have been able to thoroughly enjoy myself doing so, especially during dirty week-ends. Not only does it give me a woody practically on command, it gives me just that little bit more confidence to just concentrate on humping instead of having to worry about possible deflation problems. And whether psychological or real, I do think that my member tends to feel a bit bigger, more stiff AND I can definitely last longer when I'm on Vit. V or C.
So don't dismiss the use of Vit V, C etc. It's like not using a smart phone or a tablet computer as your old laptop still works OK. You're missing out on something which the modern world, and state of the art medical science has provided for lucky us living in this day and age.
Just IMHO of course.
SEAN
After 2 months of no replies to my emails I received 5 in 2 days. One from a possible freebie and 4 from escorts. I made an appointment with an escort whose photo was very cute and who was willing to indulge 2 of my many fetishes. I turned up at the neutral venue and was greeted by a MILF who said she would take me to my date. I assumed this was the mamasan. In the taxi the MILF offered me her email. I explained some of my interests and discovered she was willing to indulge 3 of my many fetishes. I asked her to swap with the first girl. Back to the MILF's apartment for 4 hours of really good fun. She had the biggest clit I have ever experienced.
The MILF was so good I made another appointment today. I mentioned another of my many fetishes. She initially said no. Then about 5 minutes later she actually offered to try it next time.
The curious thing is that I can't find any advertisement for the MILF on the internet. She did say where she advertised but I obviously didn't hear correctly.
BTW. According to the internet there are 4 anal queens in Beijing (Sammi, Betty, Rebecca and Chunjie). Has anyone tried them?
IMHO all this forum talk about Viagra etc is a waste. Viagra was created for a specific medical problem such as the side-effects of prostate cancer treatment. I am sure 99% of the guys viewing this don't have a problem. If you get a boner when a girl strokes your penis then you don't need a boner pill.Hi,
This sounds like a great experience. How can we find the MILF. Would you mind to share a pointer to her?
Cheers
When going to my boarding gate I always pass by a short term hotel (for stop overs with some waiting to kill, take a nap, a shower or just have some girls fun).
But thats behind security, so I was not sure if you had meant this place and wondered how you could manage to get the girl in.
For that outside hotel, stupid question again, did you book it only for a few hours?
Take care and, BTW, Happy New Year.
Gregory.
GB,
Here's the answer to your three questions.
I booked Capital Airport Hotel located within the premises of Beijing Airport. 1.2 km from the airport terminal. There are, of course, several other hotels available, just search them on the Internet.
Surely, you need to book in advance. And you need to calculate the time when the girl should be there. Say that you land at 4 pm, and it will take you 20 minutes to the hotel you book, and you need 10 minutes to check in. So you better ask her to arrive there at 4:30 pm or a bit late.
It's easy. Just send Kitty the phone number of the reception counter of your hotel. So she can, if need, make a phone to see what hotel it is and how to get there.
VP
Guitarrefreak
01-06-13, 08:11
Hi gents.
I will be in beijing later this month. 20, 21 and 22.
Would be cool to hang out with some of the veterans on this board and trade some war stories, PM if you are interested in getting a drink and heading out for battle together
Hmm. Would you be willing to share the contact info and some of the service details for this "MILF"?
After 2 months of no replies to my emails I received 5 in 2 days. One from a possible freebie and 4 from escorts. I made an appointment with an escort whose photo was very cute and who was willing to indulge 2 of my many fetishes. I turned up at the neutral venue and was greeted by a MILF who said she would take me to my date. I assumed this was the mamasan. In the taxi the MILF offered me her email. I explained some of my interests and discovered she was willing to indulge 3 of my many fetishes. I asked her to swap with the first girl. Back to the MILF's apartment for 4 hours of really good fun. She had the biggest clit I have ever experienced.
The MILF was so good I made another appointment today. I mentioned another of my many fetishes. She initially said no. Then about 5 minutes later she actually offered to try it next time.
The curious thing is that I can't find any advertisement for the MILF on the internet. She did say where she advertised but I obviously didn't hear correctly.
BTW. According to the internet there are 4 anal queens in Beijing (Sammi, Betty, Rebecca and Chunjie). Has anyone tried them?
IMHO all this forum talk about Viagra etc is a waste. Viagra was created for a specific medical problem such as the side-effects of prostate cancer treatment. I am sure 99% of the guys viewing this don't have a problem. If you get a boner when a girl strokes your penis then you don't need a boner pill.
Hmm. Would you be willing to share the contact info and some of the service details for this "MILF"?Annie at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].
Phone after 1. 00pm.
Please say you say her advertisement on the internet to protect my privacy.
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Annie at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].Sorry Maseru, I am not allowed to give out her phone number, and can't find her web page (as I mentioned in my other post).
When I see her again I will get her web page details. There are lots of young Annie web pages but no MILF Annie.
I just discovered I have been "fined" 1 point for trying to post a phone number. Don't let this happen to you!
Sorry Ding Li, I have tried to PM you but system says you cannot receive PM. Do you happen to know the web address to reach this person.
Annie at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].
Phone after 1. 00pm.
Please say you say her advertisement on the internet to protect my privacy.
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Hi Ding Li.
Its a pity you cannot be reached via PM. Please consider to become a member so we can conatct you via PM.
If you click the "Front Page" and on the left column just go to.
Subscription FAQ.
Buy a Subscription.
There you will find how to become a full member. For me it also was a hurdle I had a problem with, but you can do fairly easyto keep it anonymous.
I personally recommend anyway to keep contact info's only in the PM section just out of fairness.
If you contact has got a own website or post classifieds elsewere report the contact under the "Classifieds" Forum.
Regards,
Gregory.
Sorry Maseru, I am not allowed to give out her phone number, and can't find her web page (as I mentioned in my other post).
When I see her again I will get her web page details. There are lots of young Annie web pages but no MILF Annie.
I just discovered I have been "fined" 1 point for trying to post a phone number. Don't let this happen to you!
Ding Li,
Yes it would be nice to be able to communicate with you. Please consider paying for this service. Just think, the information has already probably saved you the $20, right?
Nice posts, keep them up and send PM with info if you sign up.
MD40.
Hi Ding Li.
Its a pity you cannot be reached via PM. Please consider to become a member so we can conatct you via PM.
If you click the "Front Page" and on the left column just go to.
Subscription FAQ.
Buy a Subscription.
There you will find how to become a full member. For me it also was a hurdle I had a problem with, but you can do fairly easyto keep it anonymous.
I personally recommend anyway to keep contact info's only in the PM section just out of fairness.
If you contact has got a own website or post classifieds elsewere report the contact under the "Classifieds" Forum.
Regards,
Gregory.
I have emailed Annie and asked to meet her tomorrow (she hasn't replied yet). I will organise a subscription and forward her details. They will probably arrive Wednesday morning if everything goes okay.
She is a very friendly lady but also businesslike. Hopefully everything will work out.
Vera Petrova
01-07-13, 13:54
When going to my boarding gate I always pass by a short term hotel (for stop overs with some waiting to kill, take a nap, a shower or just have some girls fun).
But thats behind security, so I was not sure if you had meant this place and wondered how you could manage to get the girl in.
For that outside hotel, stupid question again, did you book it only for a few hours?
Take care and, BTW, Happy New Year.
Gregory.GB,
I did not feel any restriction for visitors there, fetched her from the lobby without any stop.
This hotel offers two choices: price for a day and for half a day, so I took the later.
VP
Perfect, I will try the next time.
Take care and hope for further mutual exchanges. Hope this time I can be of help.
Gregory.
GB,
I did not feel any restriction for visitors there, fetched her from the lobby without any stop.
This hotel offers two choices: price for a day and for half a day, so I took the later.
VP
Vera Petrova
01-08-13, 03:39
Perfect, I will try the next time.
Take care and hope for further mutual exchanges. Hope this time I can be of help.
Gregory.Good luck! And keep us posted.
Hi,
I am reaching Beijing on 15th Jan and I will be there till 21st Jan13. This is my firts visit to China and I don't know anything about Chinese language. Can any one suggest any safe place to score with cute Chinese girls.
Thanks in advance,
DD
One of the main providers is Angel's. There have been some negative comments here sometimes, but I have used her several times and have usually been very happy. One or two mediocre experiences, nothing really bad, a few quite amazing and memorable. Her contact info is at http://***************.blog.com/. The rates are basic 600, more for longer than an hour. For this price you will get a girl who is young and cute, but who probably speaks little or no English. I haven't found that to be much of a barrier. I have never asked for a specific size or body shape, because I find all women beautiful in some way, so I'm not sure how much she will respond to very specific requests, if that is your thing. If you want model good looks or "alternative" services, it will be more. I haven't tried the other most often mentioned providers, so can't comment on them.
Hi,
I am reaching Beijing on 15th Jan and I will be there till 21st Jan13. This is my firts visit to China and I don't know anything about Chinese language. Can any one suggest any safe place to score with cute Chinese girls.
Thanks in advance,
DD
Has anyone tried Beijing's anal queens. There is Betty and Rebecca at ez141, xiachunjie at CityofLove, and Nico and Sammi at Locanto. Any other suggestions?
Hi,
I am reaching Beijing on 15th Jan and I will be there till 21st Jan13. This is my firts visit to China and I don't know anything about Chinese language. Can any one suggest any safe place to score with cute Chinese girls.
Thanks in advance,
DDHi Dhak Dhak.
The first thing to do is read the forum for the three cities you say that you will visit all at the same time.
You should also be aware that any place with the services you seek, including your hotel room, may be raided by the police at anytime so, strictly speaking, safety is only relative at any particular time.
The second thing to do is to let us all know how you are able to be in Beijing, Wuhan and Nanjing simultaneously, I would sure like to know or are you spending just a couple or so days in each location?
Teltel
I got the following email from a girl after I refused to pay 2000rmb to meet her. At least she was polite.
"am very happy to hearing from you! The things is different! Even the same clothes looks similar but the price different because the quality is different, people are work for money but every one per month salary is so different some is very hight some is very low! People are different! The beautiful girls are very different that is why you like to meet different girls! Am a very beautiful and nice sweet girl. Most people like me they are very happy to meet me! Am a university student. I can SPEAK very good english. I THINK you will also very happy to meet me! For 2000rmb is common price for the nice beautiful girl. If I GO TO 5 star hotel I CAN get more then that. You are live in beijing so meet a nice beautiful girl for 2000 rmb is good for you! Maybe you will find a sweet love and good friend in beijing. Even you go to restaurant if you order some good food that also a little more money that common food. So find the girl you like you also will more enjoy and more happy time together that is more important for you. Have a nice day!
All the best!
Sweet candy!"
I got the following email from a girl after I refused to pay 2000rmb to meet her. At least she was polite.
"am very happy to hearing from you! The things is different! Even the same clothes looks similar but the price different because the quality is different, people are work for money but every one per month salary is so different some is very hight some is very low! People are different! The beautiful girls are very different that is why you like to meet different girls! Am a very beautiful and nice sweet girl. Most people like me they are very happy to meet me! Am a university student. I can SPEAK very good english. I THINK you will also very happy to meet me! For 2000rmb is common price for the nice beautiful girl. If I GO TO 5 star hotel I CAN get more then that. You are live in beijing so meet a nice beautiful girl for 2000 rmb is good for you! Maybe you will find a sweet love and good friend in beijing. Even you go to restaurant if you order some good food that also a little more money that common food. So find the girl you like you also will more enjoy and more happy time together that is more important for you. Have a nice day!
All the best!
Sweet candy!"2000rmb for what?
Hi Dhak Dhak.
The first thing to do is read the forum for the three cities you say that you will visit all at the same time.
You should also be aware that any place with the services you seek, including your hotel room, may be raided by the police at anytime so, strictly speaking, safety is only relative at any particular time.
The second thing to do is to let us all know how you are able to be in Beijing, Wuhan and Nanjing simultaneously, I would sure like to know or are you spending just a couple or so days in each location?
TeltelSorry for the miscommunication. Earlier my plan was to go nanjing. But I now I am reaching beijing on 15 th and till 21st there and then movw to Wuhan.
Thanks
Probably just to meet. A lot of the KTV girls I know will charge 1000 to 3000 just to meet for dinner. 5000 to 10000+ for ST. They stay pretty busy, a lot of older rich guys, gubment ficals, fuerdai bored with too much money.
2000rmb for what?
Probably just to meet. A lot of the KTV girls I know will charge 1000 to 3000 just to meet for dinner. 5000 to 10000+ for ST. They stay pretty busy, a lot of older rich guys, gubment ficals, fuerdai bored with too much money.I thought you just wanted to rent it, not buy it!
Hi guys,
I am searching for months without any luck finding an older woman Chinese or even better Western. I would love to fuck a MILF from 30 up to 50+.
Does anyone have a good hint how to find one? A MILF who is into anal would be even better.
Thanks,
Henk
Hi pals,
Anyone knows where to find "Super P Force" (sildenafil+dapoxetine) in Chaoyang, best would be next to Guomao area?
Thanks in advance.
N. B.
IMHO all this forum talk about Viagra etc is a waste. Viagra was created for a specific medical problem such as the side-effects of prostate cancer treatment. I am sure 99% of the guys viewing this don't have a problem. If you get a boner when a girl strokes your penis then you don't need a boner pill.I'm over 50 and can tell you I'm 100% withOUT a condom, but WITH one, Levitra is really a necessity. So in my case, it's a safety issue.
Just my 2 jiao, but if any of the brothers have the same situation (condom de-sensitization) maybe a pill would help them as well regardless of age.
FreebieFan
01-11-13, 01:28
The year started wonderfully well with a 22 year old Filipina in my bed as the clock struck. A few more days in Beijing thereafter saw me get lucky a few more times with some of my regular ladies. A trip to Manila recently (TR posted) saw me nail many ladies in a few days. And finally last night, I enjoyed a peaceful night with no sex!
And tonight, we start all over again! Lifes good and 2013. Its a blast!
Probably just to meet. A lot of the KTV girls I know will charge 1000 to 3000 just to meet for dinner. 5000 to 10000+ for ST. They stay pretty busy, a lot of older rich guys, gubment ficals, fuerdai bored with too much money.Total delusion!
I have never found evidence that the more you pay the better the service. I would even say that s usually the opposite as your expectations become to high with such a price tag.
Sh Surprise
01-11-13, 08:05
I'm over 50 and can tell you I'm 100% withOUT a condom, but WITH one, Levitra is really a necessity. So in my case, it's a safety issue.
Just my 2 jiao, but if any of the brothers have the same situation. .I will agree to agree with you, Mike921. I am 50, and my situation is exactly like yours. (and same "cure" to fix it, or maybe V or "generic" pills I get in Asia.)
Hi guys,
I am searching for months without any luck finding an older woman Chinese or even better Western. I would love to fuck a MILF from 30 up to 50+.
Does anyone have a good hint how to find one? A MILF who is into anal would be even better.
Thanks,
HenkI have recently reported 5 girls (Nico, Sammi etc) who have mentioned anal in their advertisements, and their website location. Just do a google under the name and the website. Sammi looks like a cute MILF if it is a real photo. Let us know if she is any good.
I'm over 50 and can tell you I'm 100% withOUT a condom, but WITH one, Levitra is really a necessity. So in my case, it's a safety issue.
Just my 2 jiao, but if any of the brothers have the same situation (condom de-sensitization) maybe a pill would help them as well regardless of age.After all the feedback, I thought I had better give Viagra a try. I broke out the tablets that I had bought 'just in case. ' My doctor prescribed extra strength tablets and told me to cut them in half because this gave the best value. There is no doubt it worked: the slightest touch or dirty thought and I was up again, much to my immense amusement. But in the long run the result was the same. Viagra has a long shelf life so I will save the rest of the tablets for later. Thanks to the guys who brought up the topic of buying pills. It was fun.
I was worried about 'condom de-sensitization' initially, so bought a good quality condom. There was almost no loss of sensitivity which surprised me.
Always happy to 'agree to disagree' if it makes for a good conversation.
Forbidden Kid
01-12-13, 12:17
I have recently reported 5 girls (Nico, Sammi etc) who have mentioned anal in their advertisements, and their website location. Just do a google under the name and the website. Sammi looks like a cute MILF if it is a real photo. Let us know if she is any good.I reversed image searched Sammi's picture: she's is a taiwanese actress LOL
FreebieFan
01-13-13, 08:48
Been chatting on Wechat for a while with one girl. We met once for coffee and agreed that one night I would make dinner for her.
We arranged the date, and 3 hours before the arrival time, she asked." will we be having sex today". Interesting question to answer.
If I say Yes maybe she says "dream on ". If I say "No" that would be very weird.
I replied " hopefully " we will. The safe answer won as she said " I hope so too."
OK, so there has been lots of talk about viagra etc lately, I have posted a report on the Chinese tonic that I and others use with good results. Have had some PMs regarding how to get it, while I did offer help with this, I don't really want to spend too much time ordering and supplying, however if there is enough interest and at a small commission, I may be able to help. If you want to try, PM me and indicate the amount you would like to order. I'm not in this business, so no guarantees, but it works for everyone that has used it that I know. Get together some of you and order together, that way you can try a box each, each box contains 4 bottles of 100Ml, about 4 doses per bottle. Cost is not a huge loss if it doesn't fulfill your expectations. But I won't order in small lots. Maybe 6 boxes minimum. Don't know about the shelf life, it never lasts that long in my house.
Loveasiangirls
01-13-13, 16:43
The year started wonderfully well with a 22 year old Filipina in my bed as the clock struck. A few more days in Beijing thereafter saw me get lucky a few more times with some of my regular ladies. A trip to Manila recently (TR posted) saw me nail many ladies in a few days. And finally last night, I enjoyed a peaceful night with no sex!
And tonight, we start all over again! Lifes good and 2013. Its a blast!Maybe it makes you feel better to come here and write about your stories but I fail to see how it helps others. Yes freebies are easy to find and it is not hard to bed a different girl every night if you work on it. You are not so special, any expat who tries a little will have similar results.
I'va had too many freebies to remember half of their names but I don't come here to brag about it. Please post something useful. You can brag to your friends back home.
Apologies if this is double posted I posted already but couldn't find it:
Hi nice to find this forum. I am browsing through the threads and trying to find has anyone done like a guide about where to find p4p in China? I have never been there before but quite a frequent traveller to Pattaya in Thailand. I am going to be in Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing and would like to hook up with local girls. I love Chinese girls!
Normally in Thailand you can pick them up from the bars or street and bring them back to your hotel for the night or days etc. The only thing I have heard about China is they have hair salons and you go in and ask for a 'haircut'
Anyhoo if anyone is able to point me in the right direction be much appreciated. I am staying in what is supposed to be the bar areas Guangzhou: Tianhe area, Shanhai: Nanjing Road and Beijing: Sanlitun.
Just wonder what the scene is like there I have no idea.
Thanks!
Have been in Beijing middle of November during 18th party congress. It was no problem to contact Angel and get a pretty girl to my hotel room in Chaoyang twice for overnight. Of course: pics are fake. But reality is quite near. Otherwise I would not have booked the same girl twice. Price was 1. 400 for overnight, very good shape and nice talking in English. Her name was Xiaoyue.
Just talk to Angel and let her know your interests.
One of the main providers is Angel's. There have been some negative comments here sometimes, but I have used her several times and have usually been very happy. One or two mediocre experiences, nothing really bad, a few quite amazing and memorable. Her contact info is at.
http://***************.blog.com/.
The rates are basic 600, more for longer than an hour. For this price you will get a girl who is young and cute, but who probably speaks little or no English. I haven't found that to be much of a barrier. I have never asked for a specific size or body shape, because I find all women beautiful in some way, so I'm not sure how much she will respond to very specific requests, if that is your thing. If you want model good looks or "alternative" services, it will be more. I haven't tried the other most often mentioned providers, so can't comment on them.
Hi,
It's old but still principally correct I guess: post #182.
Good luck
Bad Boy Billy
01-14-13, 22:18
I am going to be in Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing .Just wonder what the scene is like there I have no idea.Don't be afraid to RTFF.
Apologies if this is double posted I posted already but couldn't find it:
Hi nice to find this forum. I am browsing through the threads and trying to find has anyone done like a guide about where to find p4p in China? I have never been there before but quite a frequent traveller to Pattaya in Thailand. I am going to be in Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing and would like to hook up with local girls. I love Chinese girls!
Just wonder what the scene is like there I have no idea.
Thanks!Quality Chinese girls work in KTV only, a few might do part time work through out call services, but typically the older and overweight will work in bars. Shanghai you will have much easier time to pick up from bars, and Guangzhou, just forget about it, there is only the KAMA bar with latino girls.
You can also use WeChat, as long as you are staying in a 5 star hotel, they go to such places and look for customers through WeChat, the high-tech SW approach is now very popular in China.
OS
Quality Chinese girls work in KTV only, a few might do part time work through out call services, but typically the older and overweight will work in bars. Shanghai you will have much easier time to pick up from bars, and Guangzhou, just forget about it, there is only the KAMA bar with latino girls.
You can also use WeChat, as long as you are staying in a 5 star hotel, they go to such places and look for customers through WeChat, the high-tech SW approach is now very popular in China.
OSLovely thanks for the info yeah I am using we chat here in Aus and QQ hoping to find something from it.
So in the bars in Shanghai you have to barfine them? And they come back to your hotel? Is it safe?
KTV same question. And what are the general rates?
Thanks a bunch.
Hi,
It's old but still principally correct I guess: post #182.
Good luck1. I read about 100 pages of the forum before coming to China then went looking for the famous Sammy Beijing mongering report. I googled and downloaded something which I thought was it. Although the download was interesting, I am happy to find the original at #182.
2. Met young Annie from Locanto. She is the one with the phone number starting and finishing with 134$$$$$368. Poor service. One pop and no DATY. She speaks good English and has a very beautiful petite body (IMHO). She is a part-timer, mostly days.
3. I have always believed that if you find a good girl then you should become a regular. I have recently broken my own rule and ended up with two duds. Probably violates the mongering creed of "More is better" but I prefer quality.
4. I visited a girl (the first dud) who advertised her photos were real. I asked her to wear a particular style of clothes for our meeting which she did. Later I returned to her site and discovered she had uploaded photos of herself wearing the same clothes.
VP, could you share Kitty's contact with me? I'm heading to Beijing during this weekend. Thanks.
A few days back, I came over to Beijing for flight transfer. It was just a short stay of 5 hours. But I did not want to lose the chance fucking a pussy during the waiting time. So text to Kitty asking for Sally couple of days before my journey and was told it was ok, but she's not sure whether Sally's available that day or not. So Kitty suggested if Sally's not available she'd arrange another girl for me according to my demand. It's ok but I emphasized that Sally must arrive on time, almost at the same time while I would be checking in, for it was just a 5 hours' short stay. Kitty promised. Before went aboard, I send Kitty a message again for reminder, she responded promptly saying it would be ok and Sally's available that afternoon. That's fine.
Unfortunately, the fright delayed for about 40 mins, so once I landed, I sent at once a message to Kitty informing that Sally can arrive at my booked hotel 40 mins late for the delay. But it was too late, I was told Sally'd already arrived on time. When hurrying to my hotel, I was just about to apologize for my late, Sally smiled politely and gave me a warm hug. She's a skinny pretty young lady, wonderful BBBJ and GFE, turned out to be a very nice experience. Well worth every penny of the CNY 600.
VP, could you share Kitty's contact with me? I'm heading to Beijing during this weekend. Thanks.BJPussy,
Kitty's contact can be seen in the 'Classified Ads' section. Or just search 'Kitty Beijing' using search engine of this site.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1367123&viewfull=1#post1367123
ChinBro
El Frances
01-17-13, 15:31
Apologies if this is double posted I posted already but couldn't find it:
Hi nice to find this forum. I am browsing through the threads and trying to find has anyone done like a guide about where to find p4p in China? I have never been there before but quite a frequent traveller to Pattaya in Thailand. I am going to be in Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing and would like to hook up with local girls. I love Chinese girls!
Normally in Thailand you can pick them up from the bars or street and bring them back to your hotel for the night or days etc. The only thing I have heard about China is they have hair salons and you go in and ask for a 'haircut'
Anyhoo if anyone is able to point me in the right direction be much appreciated. I am staying in what is supposed to be the bar areas Guangzhou: Tianhe area, Shanhai: Nanjing Road and Beijing: Sanlitun.
Just wonder what the scene is like there I have no idea.
Thanks!The bar scene is poor in Beijing, and plenty of scams if you don't pay attention. Never follow anyone who wants to take you to a "Girlie Bar", it's 100 % scam. The best is to use proven outcall services that have been tested here (not from Craiglist and similar ads, plenty of scams) : Maria, Lilli, Angel etc. 500+100 taxi for about 1 hour with a young girl (18-25 range) who is clean and polite. There are some barbershops but the good ones are usually in remote areas.
I am only a little familiar with Shanghai, there is a bar scene (FLs) but as previously commented I found the girls a bit old and too expensive. Shanghai is famous for the Sauna scene. It's excellent (similar to soapy in Thailand and usually includes riming) but a bit expensive (800/900 for 90 mn). There's also a barbershop district but very far from center.
One thing is sure: it's not like Thailand (I'll be in Pattaya in Feb.) and you need to carefully read this forum or others.
The bar scene is poor in Beijing, and plenty of scams if you don't pay attention. Never follow anyone who wants to take you to a "Girlie Bar", it's 100 % scam. The best is to use proven outcall services that have been tested here (not from Craiglist and similar ads, plenty of scams) : Maria, Lilli, Angel etc. 500+100 taxi for about 1 hour with a young girl (18-25 range) who is clean and polite. There are some barbershops but the good ones are usually in remote areas.
I am only a little familiar with Shanghai, there is a bar scene (FLs) but as previously commented I found the girls a bit old and too expensive. Shanghai is famous for the Sauna scene. It's excellent (similar to soapy in Thailand and usually includes riming) but a bit expensive (800/900 for 90 mn). There's also a barbershop district but very far from center.
One thing is sure: it's not like Thailand (I'll be in Pattaya in Feb.) and you need to carefully read this forum or others.So true! I met a QQ girl yesterday. She seemed so polite and friendly. Oh, yes, as soon as we met she asked me if I wanted to drink something with her. Why Not? Well, I realized the bar was suspicious when they presented me a list where the cheapest thing was 120 yuan (average drink: 460 yuan). I told her that we had to change place and guess what? She walked away because it was "too cold outside". Bye bye sweetie!
Dud 1. Emailed Angel and Kitty. Angel didn't reply. Kitty refused to send a girl to my clean and comfortable hotel where I am a long term guest, because it was not a 4/5 star hotel. Their loss because I am here for the next 9 months, maybe 2 years.
Dud 2. Contacted a Craigslist 'girl'. I explained one of my many fetishes to the 'girl' over a number of emails. Turned up at her address and the lady didn't know what I was talking about. Seems the 'girl' was actually the boss and the boss didn't pass on my request. Walked away with nothing.
Dud 3. Another Craigslist girl. Young and beautiful in the image; fat and ugly in real life. Walked away with nothing.
Luckily I still have Mrs Palm and her four daughters and gender confused son. She usually provides a reliable service at a excellent price.
Art Shanghai
01-19-13, 08:05
Bummer dude. Did you try calling Angel or Kitty? I have found that phone is more responsive then email. And I have also found that Fiona is more responsive then the others.
Dud 1. Emailed Angel and Kitty. Angel didn't reply. Kitty refused to send a girl to my clean and comfortable hotel where I am a long term guest, because it was not a 4/5 star hotel. Their loss because I am here for the next 9 months, maybe 2 years.
Dud 2. Contacted a Craigslist 'girl'. I explained one of my many fetishes to the 'girl' over a number of emails. Turned up at her address and the lady didn't know what I was talking about. Seems the 'girl' was actually the boss and the boss didn't pass on my request. Walked away with nothing.
Dud 3. Another Craigslist girl. Young and beautiful in the image; fat and ugly in real life. Walked away with nothing.
Luckily I still have Mrs Palm and her four daughters and gender confused son. She usually provides a reliable service at a excellent price.
I've used Fiona for quite a long time now and always have found Fiona reliable and good service.
A couple of weeks ago she recommended a "new" girl called Sisi.
Sisi came over very promptly. I wasn't feeling particularly horny, so just sat down with Sisi on the couch and had a good chat for a while.
Sisi has very good English and is a student. Working for some extra cash. I think Sisi said she's 19, and sure looked it. She's maybe 165cm, not skinny, but no fat either.
She really did seem like the typical uni student. No Pamela Anderson sex machine, but a smart, girl-next-door uni student type. The sort of girl who if you were the teacher you would like sitting in the front row of your class, and maybe even secretly wish you could take to dinner.
The sex was pretty standard, but she did try to please. It was much more GFE than PSE. For example, her favourite position was missionary with her holding you close. She seemed to get more into it as it went on.
It really was like being in bed with an innocent uni student!
On reflection, maybe that's also because my mood wasn't particularly PSE that night. I was pretty tired and just wanted to relax with a nice girl. So I definitely got what I wanted that night.
If you want a smart, uni student type. Interesting conversation. Then Sisi is great.
But if I was really raring to go and wanted PSE, then better choose another.
Fiona has a pretty wide range of girls. I always wonder where she gets them from! Good to let the mamasan know what type of service and girl you want.
I have found that phone is more responsive then email.Email is better at explaining my many fetishes. Escorts understand sex and BJs; asking them to get down and dirty with a basket of fruit is difficult enough via email, it would be worse with phones. (I dare someone to try it). With email I can send an image of the style of clothes I want them to wear.
I initially used email because I don't have a phone (hate phones) and because I believed email would be easier to understand because of my lack of Chinese. Also I am not in a rush, and prefer to do in-calls (visit the girl's apartment) because I don't want to get a bad reputation with the nice ladies who work at my hotel.
I am currently doing 2 or 3 visits per week; as my reports show it is still difficult to get things right even with email.
No one replied to my reports asking about Beijing anal queens so sent off some emails.
Nico from Locanto just replied with anal costing 500$ (presumably US500).
She looks very cute in her images but too expensive for me.
Have you actually seen anyone in person from Locanto? There are a lot of good looking pictures, but I'm wondering how many are real. My guess is that most are fake. At least two listings have the same photos.
No one replied to my reports asking about Beijing anal queens so sent off some emails.
Nico from Locanto just replied with anal costing 500$ (presumably US500).
She looks very cute in her images but too expensive for me.
I've used Fiona for quite a long time now and always have found Fiona reliable and good service.
A couple of weeks ago she recommended a "new" girl called Sisi.
Sisi came over very promptly. I wasn't feeling particularly horny, so just sat down with Sisi on the couch and had a good chat for a while.
Sisi has very good English and is a student. Working for some extra cash. I think Sisi said she's 19, and sure looked it. She's maybe 165cm, not skinny, but no fat either.
She really did seem like the typical uni student. No Pamela Anderson sex machine, but a smart, girl-next-door uni student type. The sort of girl who if you were the teacher you would like sitting in the front row of your class, and maybe even secretly wish you could take to dinner.
The sex was pretty standard, but she did try to please. It was much more GFE than PSE. For example, her favourite position was missionary with her holding you close. She seemed to get more into it as it went on.
It really was like being in bed with an innocent uni student!
On reflection, maybe that's also because my mood wasn't particularly PSE that night. I was pretty tired and just wanted to relax with a nice girl. So I definitely got what I wanted that night.
If you want a smart, uni student type. Interesting conversation. Then Sisi is great.
But if I was really raring to go and wanted PSE, then better choose another.
Fiona has a pretty wide range of girls. I always wonder where she gets them from! Good to let the mamasan know what type of service and girl you want.Yes, but Fiona's charge also great. 1100 for one hour, totally overpricing. Kitty and Angel quote 600 for their girls.
ChinBro.
Email is better at explaining my many fetishes. Escorts understand sex and BJs; asking them to get down and dirty with a basket of fruit is difficult enough via email, it would be worse with phones. (I dare someone to try it). With email I can send an image of the style of clothes I want them to wear.
I initially used email because I don't have a phone (hate phones) and because I believed email would be easier to understand because of my lack of Chinese. Also I am not in a rush, and prefer to do in-calls (visit the girl's apartment) because I don't want to get a bad reputation with the nice ladies who work at my hotel.
I am currently doing 2 or 3 visits per week; as my reports show it is still difficult to get things right even with email.For me, I prefer Email as well.
Have you actually seen anyone in person from Locanto? There are a lot of good looking pictures, but I'm wondering how many are real. My guess is that most are fake. At least two listings have the same photos.All the girls from Locanto and Craigslist that I have personally met had fake photos. One girl defended the fakes by saying the photos were "similiar" to the real girls. If the girl who turns up at your place is not to your liking then ask her to leave. Don't worry about the taxi fare; it is less than a packet of cigarettes in most western countries.
Went to M last Fri, the place was packed, not able to find a single spot to sit down.
Amazingly though, there were still quite a few good looking bar girls standing without customers, so the place was still popular, but fewer willing to pay for the extra drinks.
I did, but just standing next to the dance floor since there was no place to sit down, and just held my tagged girl tightly to dance the night away.
I did not see any obvious mogolians there, at least nobody under the age of 35.
OS
Gualtier Malde
01-24-13, 17:28
There's a little local massage place off Xingfu Dajie, on Fugang Lu. Not too hard to find if you're in the Tian Tan area.
I have tried it a couple of times, first because as a local place, it's clean enough, they give a good massage, and the first time I went the simple happy ending was delivered with very high skill, which added to the already great massage. The provider would go no further though. Still, reasonably priced local place, so no complaints.
I went back today, expecting essentially the same treatment (my current freebie is traveling.). I got a different provider. She was a reasonably cute MILF, and she also gave a good massage. At the end, she too offered the simple happy ending. I asked for a thoroughly complete ending, and to my surprise, she agreed. We haggled over the price a bit, and in the end I paid a bit more than I usually do in these places, but not too much more.
She seemed to really enjoy having her nipples sucked, pinched and pulled. So of course I was happy to oblige. She finally climbed on top, and we finished that way. But, she wasn't finished. She grabbed my hands, and had me pull her nipples some more. Every time I pulled, she moaned and ground her hips against me. Every time I stopped, she grabbed my hands and had me pull again. This was fine at first, but it kept going, and going, and going, even though I was done! Long done! I think she'd have kept going as long as I was willing to lie there.
Anyway, seems worth a visit. There are a few girls there, all seem attractive enough. This is the only MP in the immediate area. There may be others, I've not explored the place extensively. Just happened to stumble across this one. Oh, and bring your own cover. It doesn't seem that they are prepared for regular FS encounters, so your mileage may vary.
GM.
FreebieFan
01-25-13, 07:29
Been lucky enough to acquire 3 very regular and very tasty freebies. Basically they visit once or twice a week. Recently all have bought their own toothbrush, and some have left their make up cleaning stuff ("saves me having to always bring, hope thats ok Freebie " ).
So after one leaves, I put her stuff in a corner of the drawer along with toothbrush and take out the next set.
Was searching recently for something in the drawer and I guess everthing got mixed up.
Result being two nights ago one lady said " this isn't my stuff. Who's is this make up cleaner and whos toothbrush is this" Replied must have been when my daughters were visiting.
Thought last night I had it sorted, but no, I got out the wrong colour toothbrush." Freebie, mine is red, why is this green?". Same blame attached to my daughters.
So now tonight I really hope that I've got it right. Right make up remover and right coloured tothbrush. Otherwise my daughters ears are burning again.
I need to buy a labelling set. The joys of freebielife!
Been lucky enough to acquire 3 very regular and very tasty freebies. Basically they visit once or twice a week. Recently all have bought their own toothbrush, and some have left their make up cleaning stuff ("saves me having to always bring, hope thats ok Freebie " ).
So after one leaves, I put her stuff in a corner of the drawer along with toothbrush and take out the next set.
Was searching recently for something in the drawer and I guess everthing got mixed up.
Result being two nights ago one lady said " this isn't my stuff. Who's is this make up cleaner and whos toothbrush is this" Replied must have been when my daughters were visiting.
Thought last night I had it sorted, but no, I got out the wrong colour toothbrush." Freebie, mine is red, why is this green?". Same blame attached to my daughters.
So now tonight I really hope that I've got it right. Right make up remover and right coloured tothbrush. Otherwise my daughters ears are burning again.
I need to buy a labelling set. The joys of freebielife!Freebie.
Just a suggestion, keep each set of gear in separate plastic bags with labels, may save some angry scenes.
Those freezer style bags some of the BBS girls use for BJ's would be ideal.
Teltel
PS Been in OZ for a while, back in china for new year will go further north for a while then back to Beijing Tongzhou and my cheap 100yuan quickies and 150/200 hour "massage" with FS
TT
The Chinese New Year is approching, alreday a lot of people have left beijing and the business is going down and prices too.
At maggies's Mongolians girls are trying to quoue 2'000CNY but around 02:00 you can get one for less than 1'000CNY for St and 1'500 for LT.
At Chocolat the same, some Russian girls are still quoting 3'000CNY (500USD) but others are going down to 700 CNY for ST including BBBJ and CIM.
Enjoy the basic rule for business :demand vs. Offer and be able to fuck nice girls for half the price some dudes can pay.
El Frances
01-26-13, 22:08
All the girls from Locanto and Craigslist that I have personally met had fake photos. One girl defended the fakes by saying the photos were "similiar" to the real girls. If the girl who turns up at your place is not to your liking then ask her to leave. Don't worry about the taxi fare; it is less than a packet of cigarettes in most western countries.It's very easy to check with imagelookup add on for firefox. You'll find that most pics are from Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese models, etc. So you'll never know who will come. It's better to avoid these classified ads and use reliable providers as Lili, Maria, Kitty, etc. Who have a reputation to keep, and describe them the type of girl you like.
Will be visiting Beijing for the first time. Staying at JW. What is the best way to get some?
Explorer88
01-28-13, 22:47
Will be visiting Beijing for the first time. Staying at JW. What is the best way to get some?Sonny,
With all due respect, there are over 9000 postings in this thread. Do a little homework, you'll be fine.
Recently spent one night at the Hilton Beijing (next to Kempinski, across from Westin). Called a girl I knew to have dinner and spend the night with me, Lili. 31 yrs old, very cute and tight body, never married, she loves to cuddle and give HJ and gives me endless access to DATY and fingering, but she does not seem to enjoy FS with me. I give her 1, 000 RMB for the "nice" night, but it is not a sex extravaganza. This time, around 10 pm she sensed I was a bit frustrated since I kept crawling on top of her in various positions and doing my best to plunge away, so she suggested she call a "sexy friend". OK. When friend showed up I went down to the 2nd floor where friend was waiting (bar is on the 2nd floor) and at first I did not see friend yelloy-haired, sexy Lucy. So I walked around the 2nd floor, saw a women coming out of the bathroom and stared at her a bit. Dark hair so my immediate thought was,"this is not yellow haired Lucy". But this woman noticed me staring and walked right up to me. She was a bit of a MILF, maybe 40, dressed more like an office secretary than a provider, but as she came closer I noticed under her suit jacket she was wearing a skin-tight white top and her rack was wonderfully impressive. She took my hand, so I thought "maybe this is indeed Lucy" and I started toward the elevator with her in tow. She said "do you want to go to your room?" So I stopped and asked,"are you Lucy?", turns out no. But she oozed sexuality even in her conservative dress. About that time I see a lady come around the corner, very short skirt, flashy jacket and of course the long, fake yellow hair, hello Lucy! Lucy snuggles up to me and we leave the other lady standing in the hallway, up the elevator and into my room where Lili is lying naked in the bed, waiting. Within seconds I'm beside Lili, watching Lucy strip down to a pair of red, crotchless panties. Fairly large breasts for a Chinese girl. Her face is a bit rugged, I would not call her beautiful, face maybe 6 but body 8. Whe climbs in bed, grabs my hand and pulls it to her crotch, she is dripping wet. I've been rolling around with Lili for a few hours so pretty horny, I finger Lucy aggressively and she seems to love it. Lili has found some lotion, rubbing it on my balls and nipples while I work Lucy. Lucy pushes my head down to her love zone, rips of the crotchless panties and more DATY. I've never had this twice, different ladies in the same bed!
I crawl up to lie on Lucy, enter and begin humping like a teenager, while Lili is stroking my balls from behind. I didn't last long, this is a bit extreme for my Victorian background, so I blow a load in less than 10 minutes. Lucy jumps up, dresses, says Lili promised her 500 RMB for "one shot", I'm not complaining so I dig out the 500 and Lucy is quickly out the door, but not before she slips me her phone number (there is no honor among ladies!).
Lili and I continue playing for a while but now I'm pretty spent, so sleeping is in order. A good bit of morning fun follows, but the FS is still not fully comfortalble. But I have the amazing memories of Lili + Lucy. 1,000 RFM for Lili. 500 RMB for Lucy and a good time had by all. (I threw Lucy's phone number in the trash, thinking she was too trashy for me, but I regret doing it, apparently nothing is too trashy for me).
Now I'm curious about the "secretary" lady I saw on the second floor, is this common at the Hilton Beijing? On my next trip, I intend to find out.
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Now I'm curious about the "secretary" lady I saw on the second floor, is this common at the Hilton Beijing? On my next trip, I intend to find out.Great report!
I saw quite a few such "secretary" ladies in Westin lobby as well when I was there, they tend to be a bit older, so I passed, but if I run into a really sexy rack, I might be tempted as well.
OS
(I threw Lucy's phone number in the trash, thinking she was too trashy for me, but I regret doing it, apparently nothing is too trashy for me).I also regret throwing away a phone number / email address. A Qingdao girl that I met twice always smelt of stale cigarettes and was overweight. She gave a very good service but I threw away her number after I found someone prettier cheaper and just as good. Now I realise that I would like to try her again for the good service but can't contact her. My bad.
My number one girl just informed me that she had tried to fall pregnant to a married foreign guy here in Beijing. Her first attempt failed and she asked my advice on why. The boyfriend had given her the contraceptive pill but she is not taking it. She is not a nasty person: just a bit mixed up. You have been warned.
Sorry about the header on my earlier report. It was supposed to read "Don't throw away phone numbers"
I also regret throwing away a phone number / email address. A Qingdao girl that I met twice always smelt of stale cigarettes and was overweight. She gave a very good service but I threw away her number after I found someone prettier cheaper and just as good. Now I realise that I would like to try her again for the good service but can't contact her. My bad.Come on, overweight smoker WG with good service is easy to find in BJ, just go for the next one, bro. It should be the non-smoking-slim-hard-body-under23 that you need to keep her phone number, hahaha.
OS
Come on, overweight smoker WG with good service is easy to find in BJ, just go for the next one, bro. It should be the non-smoking-slim-hard-body-under23 that you need to keep her phone number, hahaha.
OSYes, she was an overweight 22year old smoker but she was very good and was into fetishes. She charged Y1000 for three of my many fetishes while here in beijing they want Y2500. I should have kept her phone number.
Gualtier Malde
01-31-13, 05:40
Now I'm curious about the "secretary" lady I saw on the second floor, is this common at the Hilton Beijing? On my next trip, I intend to find out.Common. The girls work the bar. Really frustrating if you are there with family in tow.
GM.
Hi,
I wanted to know what good places are there around Park Hyatt and if its g friendly hotel.
Also since its the Chinese new year around next week, does it mean really slow and really expensive? How to make best use of whatever resources are available.
Hi,
I will be in Beijing Park Hyatt coming week and wanted to know the places around or in Park Hyatt? I know about Xiu bar. Anything else?
And I also wanted to know the impact of new year next week on overall mongering situation. What are the places still buzzing around new year? Other nationalities than Chinese better option?
Appreciate any help.
I had a free hour a few days ago and called Maria, specified skinny and young, must be skinny. Price agreed was 500 + 100. The girl that showed up, Amy, was definitely not young, probably late 20s, couple of tattoos, not at all skinny. Plenty of flab. I checked price before starting, said she needed an "extra hundred, they didn't tell you?" I only had an hour so figured whatever, just do it for 700. Wouldn't take a shower, fingering only with rubber on the finger LOL. OK BJ, uninspired missionary, busted a nut and let her go. Quality and service not much better than a RMB 200 barbershop.
Gave feedback to Maria, she apologized but of course no responsibility for the lousy girl and lame service and the 100 kuai extra charge. Her excuse was that all the girls have gone home for the holiday. Which is of course not true, I've been doing lots of good ones this week. Maybe it's just her girls have gone home. Anyway, she says two fresh new girls are arriving in two days. Yesterday she doesn't answer the phone or reply to text messages.
Anyone had any good girls from Maria lately? Or tried the two new girls yet?
Checked into the Hilton around 7, had dinner and hoped to find the nice looking "secretaries" I reported to this forum just two weeks ago. But the bar on the second floor was completely dead until after 10 pm. Maybe still too early? I cruised the lobby where one lady was sitting. I sat near her, she was not beautiful, obviously chubby but a large chest. She quickly started a conversation with me about a "massage", so I knew I had some fall-back. I checked the second floor bar one more time, only two dudes in there that I could see, so back to the lobby. I considered the in-house spa for a 90-minute massage; 800 RMB, but I'm not that interested in HE (although I really enjoy the tittilation that goes with these massages). I asked lobby lady her price and she quoted 1, 200 for 60 minute massage. As I said, not beautiful, but I negotiated her down to 800 RMB (took a while, think she was getting desparate. And so was I) for one hour. Off to my room.
After shower we enjoyed some good foreplay, but no BJ. Lots of fingering and breast massaging, then I covered up and off to the main event. She was very enthusiastic, I would do my slow routine for several minutes and then she would squirm around for about 30 seconds, nearly throwing me off the bed! I kept it going for 40 minutes (my normal goal) and she and I were both exhausted. I finished, she rested for a few minutes then a quick shower and she was gone.
800 RMB for some really good FS with a chubby-but-friendly lady, a clear winner over the hotel spa massage HE I'm sure. I'll put this in the "OK" box but this was not my original intent. Just for grins I cruised the second floor bar one more time, dead. Maybe Chinese New Year? Maybe Monday is always dead? But I'm disappointed, I had worked myself up to meet the secretaries!
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