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Lev,
Could not have said it better. If prices and service were that great why the constant need for fake reviews?
There are people here who put up trustworthy reviews and some people are indeed happy using these providers. Why not if you lack the time and possibilities to find other options? But my verdict stands firm. These are low value for money options.
But whatever rocks your boat. Waiguorende yanjing dou you wenti. Try that with your Chinese colleagues and friends they will agree. But as long as you are happy why care others opinion? Each to his own.
Kitty and co will soon charge 1500. Some people will still be happy.
Happy mongering.
FA.I am also tired of the fake reviews on Kitty service. I know better from previous experience. It is a low end service that you will only try once as you will not get what is written in these fake reviews. Kitty only business is new people on this site that get tricked by these fake reviews. I advise all new people who read this forum to avoid Kitty services. Save your money for a good experience. This crap has been going on for years.
Hey man,
How are you? Of course I can accept different comments for my review. But, why and how you think you can say my review is "shitty fake".
Why? Could you please pint out which word or phrase in my review is fake? Then, please let everybody here see the evidence!
This is quite ridiculous!
I got the service from Kitty, and I enjoyed it, like it, and will continue trying it in the future, why do you think my feeling is shitty? How offensive you are!
Listen, of course maybe you don't like Kitty's girls, then please give you reports, and I will not criticize you, because I don't know your feeling. Why you think my report is fake?
You should apologize or show your evidence!
I am a freshman, and in the past I was mainly in Europe, recently I came back to China and started with the escorts of Kitty in coincidence. And, I tried twice, very good, then I gave my reports here to let other people know, am I wrong?
Please take responsibility of your comments and show your respect to others!
Getting tired of those shitty fake reviews of Kitty's.
Lev.
Hey gentleman,
Maybe you have bad feeling with the service from the girls of Kitty, but at least for me, a guy who just came back from Europe, I give a very positive comment to her service!
You of course have the right to be with different view points, but, how can you think my review is fake?! Were you in the same room when I experienced the girl? How did you judge my feeling?
I also had many experiences with escorts in Spain and Austria. To be honest, Chinese girls are of course different from European girls. But I also gave them good comments, why can't I do this to Chinese girls if I want?
I am also tired of the fake reviews on Kitty service. I know better from previous experience. It is a low end service that you will only try once as you will not get what is written in these fake reviews. Kitty only business is new people on this site that get tricked by these fake reviews. I advise all new people who read this forum to avoid Kitty services. Save your money for a good experience. This crap has been going on for years.
Taz,
Of course you do not read it correctly but you know that yourself.
All others with less negativity and more understanding of China be assured who seeks help in Hogwarts will find it. Anyone putting in minimal effort can ask and will get help the proper way. A lot of knowledge is here and available.
If you are aggressive and ignore how things are done in this country why should anyone endanger himself to help you?
Enough said.
FA.Hmmm, going on my 9th year in Asia, married to a Chinese woman and senior laoban for a Chinese operation. But you're right, I know nothing about this country.
Here's what I can tell you for sure, most of the people in the Shanghai forum genuinely try to be helpful. It is the minority that shows the attitude or 'negativity' you refer to.
I read through the Beijing forum for many, many, pages before posting my request for information. I attempted to qualify myself by inviting people to review my posts, showing that I am a contributor and not just a leach. I did receive a couple helpful suggestions, but none worked for my case. So, I followed the only other information available in the forum. Then I get told that no wonder I had a shitty experience, and you tell me there is limited information in this forum and the senior members know why.
I'm done with this conversation but will gladly help any active member looking for support in Shanghai.
Taz.
Thanks for your report, that's what this forum needs and is missing I guess not at least to those wise guys who look down onto us lowly ignorant guys. I had a great experience with Fiona a "colleague" of Kitty.
Now I have my own regulars I got to know over many visits. PM me for details.
Gregory.
Hey man,
How are you? Of course I can accept different comments for my review. But, why and how you think you can say my review is "shitty fake".
Why? Could you please pint out which word or phrase in my review is fake? Then, please let everybody here see the evidence!
This is quite ridiculous!
I got the service from Kitty, and I enjoyed it, like it, and will continue trying it in the future, why do you think my feeling is shitty? How offensive you are!
Listen, of course maybe you don't like Kitty's girls, then please give you reports, and I will not criticize you, because I don't know your feeling. Why you think my report is fake?
You should apologize or show your evidence!
I am a freshman, and in the past I was mainly in Europe, recently I came back to China and started with the escorts of Kitty in coincidence. And, I tried twice, very good, then I gave my reports here to let other people know, am I wrong?
Please take responsibility of your comments and show your respect to others!
Hey gentleman,{S N I P}
You of course have the right to be with different view points, but, how can you think my review is fake?! Were you in the same room when I experienced the girl? How did you judge my feeling?
{S N I P}As an outside observer, I can understand why some members concluded that your post was a "fake review". I imagine that their conclusion was based on the following:
• There have previously been a number of reviews of Kitty that were obviously fake
• This was your first post on ISG (similar to the fake reviewers)
• Regular members here generally agree that Kitty's service is not worth the time and money
• Some of your English usage indicates (to me) that English is not your primary language (Chinese?)
If you are a genuine poster, please continue to post your experiences in China. But remember if you continue to post only about Kitty's service, you will likely be flamed - at least until you have established some 'street cred'.
Cheers
FernandoAlonso
06-27-15, 05:11
Hmmm, going on my 9th year in Asia, married to a Chinese woman and senior laoban for a Chinese operation. But you're right, I know nothing about this country.
Here's what I can tell you for sure, most of the people in the Shanghai forum genuinely try to be helpful. It is the minority that shows the attitude or 'negativity' you refer to.
I read through the Beijing forum for many, many, pages before posting my request for information. I attempted to qualify myself by inviting people to review my posts, showing that I am a contributor and not just a leach. I did receive a couple helpful suggestions, but none worked for my case. So, I followed the only other information available in the forum. Then I get told that no wonder I had a shitty experience, and you tell me there is limited information in this forum and the senior members know why.
I'm done with this conversation but will gladly help any active member looking for support in Shanghai.
Taz.Bro,
Your response proofs my point as does your posting history (also in Shanghai). Asia is not China (yes, China is in Asia but very unique) and being married to a Chinese does not give you any I sight in the domestic mongering scene. On the contrary.
I would never claim I know all about China because that is the first learning almost every foreigner fails to recognise. You never can know China. You still not understand the silence here (and yes, Shanghai is different) you cannot be helped. See your photo soon in the People's Daily. I know when to shut up in this country.
But each to his own.
FA.
BTW: one last advise no chinese would ever call himself senior laoban. There is only one real boss, if you need call yourself senior you are not in charge. Nice title though will impress all foreigners, chinese will laugh their head off. Of course behind your back. They will congratulate your brilliant Chinese knowledge. No offence intended. Just truth to be told.
Many thanks. To be honest, I don't understand what mistakes I have made to make myself "shitty fake". I mean, those kinds of malicious attacks should not be tolerated in this public space.
I like this forum, and of course, I am not experienced yet, so I will be very much grateful if you could guide me with more tips in the PM.
Best wishes!
Mike
Thanks for your report, that's what this forum needs and is missing I guess not at least to those wise guys who look down onto us lowly ignorant guys. I had a great experience with Fiona a "colleague" of Kitty.
Now I have my own regulars I got to know over many visits. PM me for details.
Gregory.
Thank you very much for your comments. At least you give me your observations, your arguments and the reasons behind.
But, still, as you can see, there is no logic in every point that can support the "conclusion":
1) There have previously fake reviews for Kitty in the past. So, you mean my reviews have some common senses with the old ones? To be honest, I cannot imagine, how the fake ones can look similar to my frank review?! Is it because that I only express my thanks but not with enough details? So, maybe in the future I should describe my experience in more details.
2) Yes, this is my first review, but I really don't know that the unwritten law here is that the first review should not be with so many praises. Or let's say, I agree with you that in fact many fake reviewers register, post advertisements, then leave. I fully understand, but can we really judge the other people as "shitty fake" just because we guess he may be one of the fakers? For instance, if I don't like somebody here, can I address him "shit" or "fake"? I think this misconduct should not be tolerated if we still want a healthy atmosphere in this public space. You have posted more than 700 reports, this means you have dedicate much time and energy to this space and definitely, you like this place. So, let's stop the misconduct of some members here.
3) About this point, to be honest, I don't know what I should say. In Valencia, I tried some girls from Felina, and in Wien, I tried many times in the most well-known sex studio. I fully understand the difference between Kitty and these agencies. And without any doubt, if you are a guy who speaks German very well, I recommend you to try the sex studio in Wien, it is amazing! But, unfortunately, it seems that we are currently in Beijing. So, I will appreciate you if you or other friends here can give me more viewpoints as "regular members", for instance, PM me to recommend me other agency in Beijing which definitely be better than Kitty, then I will try and contribute my comments here. But, still, hope at that moment nobody will say "oh, that shit faker comes back! No, this guy now is bought by another agency"!
4) Sure, my mother language is not English. My mother language is Chinese, but I lived in Europe for many years. And unfortunately again, my Spanish and German are much better than English. But still, I don't get how my poor English indicates I am a shitty faker.
Finally, thank you very much to let me know how to become a genuine poster. And my question is that what will happen if so far I only know Kitty in Beijing and unfortunately I try her service again and more unfortunately I still want to say something regarding her service? What is "be flamed"? Please forgive my poor English, maybe you translate it to German, I will understand better. Don't worry about my street cred, I will post my frank comments and reviews in the future, which will be definitely useful for this society. Trust me, I am a good writer and observer with good manner.
So, as you can see, now the case for me is so difficult. Only knowing Kitty, enjoying the service, but not allowed to say what I want to say. I think this situation does not bring shame on me, but on the whole public space here. Maybe we should learn from this lesson -- how a freshman becomes a shitty faker!
No offense, but really what I want to say. Thank you for giving me the chance to explain. Best regards.
Mike
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1739283]As an outside observer, I can understand why some members concluded that your post was a "fake review". I imagine that their conclusion was based on the following:
There have previously been a number of reviews of Kitty that were obviously fake
This was your first post on ISG (similar to the fake reviewers)
Regular members here generally agree that Kitty's service is not worth the time and money
Some of your English usage indicates (to me) that English is not your primary language (Chinese?)
If you are a genuine poster, please continue to post your experiences in China. But remember if you continue to post only about Kitty's service, you will likely be flamed - at least until you have established some 'street cred'.
You need to pay a fee, 19,90 $.
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It's good for one year. Check on the left side about ways to pay.
Gregory.
Many thanks. To be honest, I don't understand what mistakes I have made to make myself "shitty fake". I mean, those kinds of malicious attacks should not be tolerated in this public space.
I like this forum, and of course, I am not experienced yet, so I will be very much grateful if you could guide me with more tips in the PM.
Best wishes!
Mike
And they usually do not provide FS. If they do occasionally on top of the almost 1 k massage fee they expect a hefty tip. Value for money? Yes Beijing is difficult but who is so desperate?
FA.Never paid more than 9 xx with tip included. But than again maybe my sweet and charming attitude counts for something.
YellowPanda
06-28-15, 11:09
Hey guys,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I've received a lot of help from guys on this forum when I went to Macau for the first time last year, and I think it might be time for me to give back a little bit.
I still remember the second night I landed in Beijing and heard of the place "Maggies" and its "renowned" quality, and I wondered, no way the local Chinese would pay this much for this. So I'm Chinese XXX, and I speak Chinese, so I've gone the so called local route every since. So I started to frequent a lot of KTV places, then I stopped going after I realized that it's proly the worst when it comes to value / mileage to $$ (1200-1500 per person and all you get is some DFK at best, takeouts are 1000+ extra).
So I found the "saunas" which is very and perhaps only local. First, the service is great, the girls generally try hard to make sure you feel you got your money's worth. One thing I really like about the "saunas" is that the girls have really good attitudes and often it feels like a date instead of you know. Secondly, the cost is rather high though, not sure if it's because it's Beijing (proly), but the same type of service would cost a lot less in SH. (the only I tried was 900, fish bowl exp + Macau style cat bath) Lastly, the girls are proly prettier than those places normally mentioned here. Again, I know, that beauty is highly objective and only in the eyes of the beholder, but I think it's a fair generalization to make and relevant to most of you guys here, unless ofc, you are into BBW and Ebony and stuff.
So what am I talking about with the "saunas"? They are micros, operate out of high end-ish (maybe?) apartment buildings around Beijing. The standard exp for a customer is something like this.
1. you find them on QQ. There's a Chinese mongering review website, like Yelp, but in Chinese, and full of Shills. But it's useful to find at least the basic information about those otherwise hidden sauna places. I will post the link if I'm allowed here or if you guys can read Chinese. LOL.
2. Usually they will screen you a bit, like ask you how you found out about them, which you can just tell them about that review website. Then you go in and look at the girls' photos. Most of them are not heavily P.S.'ed, and someones will actually show the girls' faces. And you get the menu of services and prices.
3. Call them to book an appointment, they will text you their address, not the exact address, just the general vicinity.
4. You get there and they will pick you up (often the customer service person), or direct you to their exact address after you call.
5. You get the lineup, 2-3 girls, then pick the services you want from the menu.
10. You pay and then leave.
Couple notes that are very relevant:
1. Girls there often will DFK, but most Chinese guys don't do it and I don't often do it neither, so it's YMMV.
2. 70% of those places don't offer FS, only BBBJ and CIM.
3. and they cost about 1,500-2,500 RMB depending the place and service.
4. Multiple releases encouraged.
5. The entire booking process is done only in Chinese, but they are foreigner / white people friendly, I asked. LOL.
Got to go, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.
How is 1,500-2,500 RMB for BBBJ and CIM but not full service less expensive than Maggie's?
Hey guys,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I've received a lot of help from guys on this forum when I went to Macau for the first time last year, and I think it might be time for me to give back a little bit.
I still remember the second night I landed in Beijing and heard of the place "Maggies" and its "renowned" quality, and I wondered, no way the local Chinese would pay this much for this. So I'm Chinese XXX, and I speak Chinese, so I've gone the so called local route every since. So I started to frequent a lot of KTV places, then I stopped going after I realized that it's proly the worst when it comes to value / mileage to $$ (1200-1500 per person and all you get is some DFK at best, takeouts are 1000+ extra).
So I found the "saunas" which is very and perhaps only local. First, the service is great, the girls generally try hard to make sure you feel you got your money's worth. One thing I really like about the "saunas" is that the girls have really good attitudes and often it feels like a date instead of you know. Secondly, the cost is rather high though, not sure if it's because it's Beijing (proly), but the same type of service would cost a lot less in SH. (the only I tried was 900, fish bowl exp + Macau style cat bath) Lastly, the girls are proly prettier than those places normally mentioned here. Again, I know, that beauty is highly objective and only in the eyes of the beholder, but I think it's a fair generalization to make and relevant to most of you guys here, unless ofc, you are into BBW and Ebony and stuff.
So what am I talking about with the "saunas"? They are micros, operate out of high end-ish (maybe?) apartment buildings around Beijing. The standard exp for a customer is something like this.
1. you find them on QQ. There's a Chinese mongering review website, like Yelp, but in Chinese, and full of Shills. But it's useful to find at least the basic information about those otherwise hidden sauna places. I will post the link if I'm allowed here or if you guys can read Chinese. LOL.
2. Usually they will screen you a bit, like ask you how you found out about them, which you can just tell them about that review website. Then you go in and look at the girls' photos. Most of them are not heavily P.S.'ed, and someones will actually show the girls' faces. And you get the menu of services and prices.
3. Call them to book an appointment, they will text you their address, not the exact address, just the general vicinity.
4. You get there and they will pick you up (often the customer service person), or direct you to their exact address after you call.
5. You get the lineup, 2-3 girls, then pick the services you want from the menu.
10. You pay and then leave.
Couple notes that are very relevant:
1. Girls there often will DFK, but most Chinese guys don't do it and I don't often do it neither, so it's YMMV.
2. 70% of those places don't offer FS, only BBBJ and CIM.
3. and they cost about 1,500-2,500 RMB depending the place and service.
4. Multiple releases encouraged.
5. The entire booking process is done only in Chinese, but they are foreigner / white people friendly, I asked. LOL.
Got to go, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.
Lama Temple review written by a poster with two posts named Lama Temple.
Last night I called a girl Lisa to serve me. A typical Asian body, very thing body with be cup (if my sense of touching is right), student like pretty face. I asked him how old is she, 22 years old. , nice and professional message, BBBJ and nice HJ in the end. Would definitely try it for my next Beijing trip. Damage is 700 for one hour service.
Never paid more than 9 xx with tip included. But than again maybe my sweet and charming attitude counts for something.Or your low standards.
Anyone who is or has ever been married should understand this comment.You don't pay these girls to have sex with you. You pay them to leave after they do.
Hey guys,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I've received a lot of help from guys on this forum when I went to Macau for the first time last year, and I think it might be time for me to give back a little bit.
1. you find them on QQ. There's a Chinese mongering review website, like Yelp, but in Chinese, and full of Shills. But it's useful to find at least the basic information about those otherwise hidden sauna places. I will post the link if I'm allowed here or if you guys can read Chinese. LOL.
Got to go, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.Thanks-- perhaps you can tell us what to search for in Chinese or English to find the review website? It's not 141 is it?
YellowPanda
06-29-15, 16:26
Thanks-- perhaps you can tell us what to search for in Chinese or English to find the review website? It's not 141 is it?For those of you that can read Chinese, there you go.
http://www.dushitiyan.com/default.aspx
A very comprehensive review site IMO. Some parts can be full of shills but the KTV and massage section are pretty clean.
Or your low standards.I am sorry to disappoint you, but the girl was a cute thing, about 22 yo, firm breasts with very pointy nipples. I thought very good technique and spent plenty of quality time with me. She was not fat or even chubby. Maybe it was my lucky day. I had a good time and when next in Beijing I will go again. All you naysayers will not stop me from having a good time. And no, I don't work there. I live in USA.
EasilyPleased2
06-29-15, 20:50
On average, been going to LJ 3-4 times a week for the past year and a half, never once had a bad experience there. You might consider it a shit hole or not up to your standards, fair enough, each to their own. I am just sharing what I consider to be value for money. Honestly, I don't see the point in shooting down other honest posters. Its just 'troll-like' behavior in my opinion.
Anyway, due to the wonders of motorbike hunting, I found a place that suits my current desires:
The obvious HJ / FS places have been boring me recently so I started to jump into what look like legit massage places and inquiring about the prices. A few were "Get out of here, we don't do that kind of thing in here" but I found one place that was a pleasant surprise.
Location: Close to home.
Walked in, asked for massage with HJ, no problem.
Name: Xiao something.
For the first time, I was shown the shower before deed began. Big room, showered (girl not present) and blue paper pants provided, haha. Always makes me laugh. Girl comes back in, lie face down and the back massage begins. Obviously no massage qualifications but was a decent rub down. About 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see but the feeling of her rubbing herself against me is always a turn on. Plenty of chat but could only understand 50%. Then she slid down to my ankles and pulled the blue pants down. This, for me was the best part. Telling me how much she loved my ass, rubbing oil all over it, massaging my balls and stroking my dick. Recently, all I have wanted is a girl to play with my cock and talk to me about how much she prefers a foreign cock, telling me about how small Chinese cocks are and how big mine is. All bullshit but the seemingly sincerity was perfect timing.
Flip over.
She spent some time massaging my chest and above my dick which was a nice build up. She had very small hands so the double handed wank was welcomed. All was slowly slowly. I asked could I see her ass as this was my favorite, no ass view but she allowed me to zip down her top to view her absolutely beautiful natural breasts. Asked to come on her face, no breasts, no stomach, no (if you don't ask, right? To be honest, most of my questions were answered no but it didn't dampen the experience at all. Blew the load and showered after.
30-35 mins spent before final shower.
Price: 198 rmb.
WIR: Been twice already. Looking forward to third.
Apologies, my second question of the day. Has anyone been to the large massage place that is near the China Mobile office? If you go north on the side street to the third ring and pass the gateway building, just keep going and take the road that forks to the right. I noticed this place awhile back but never had the opportunity to visit.
Always enjoy reading your posts, there is little more pleasing than a legit place which is prepared to offer something more interesting.
Can you provide any more specific details on where the one you mention in your recent post is?
Location: Close to home.
BillyBobBill
07-05-15, 04:44
On average, been going to LJ 3-4 times a week for the past year and a half, never once had a bad experience there. You might consider it a shit hole or not up to your standards, fair enough, each to their own. I am just sharing what I consider to be value for money. Honestly, I don't see the point in shooting down other honest posters. Its just 'troll-like' behavior in my opinion.
Anyway, due to the wonders of motorbike hunting, I found a place that suits my current desires:
The obvious HJ / FS places have been boring me recently so I started to jump into what look like legit massage places and inquiring about the prices. A few were "Get out of here, we don't do that kind of thing in here" but I found one place that was a pleasant surprise.
Location: Close to home.
Walked in, asked for massage with HJ, no problem.
Name: Xiao something.
For the first time, I was shown the shower before deed began. Big room, showered (girl not present) and blue paper pants provided, haha. Always makes me laugh. Girl comes back in, lie face down and the back massage begins. Obviously no massage qualifications but was a decent rub down. About 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see but the feeling of her rubbing herself against me is always a turn on. Plenty of chat but could only understand 50%. Then she slid down to my ankles and pulled the blue pants down. This, for me was the best part. Telling me how much she loved my ass, rubbing oil all over it, massaging my balls and stroking my dick. Recently, all I have wanted is a girl to play with my cock and talk to me about how much she prefers a foreign cock, telling me about how small Chinese cocks are and how big mine is. All bullshit but the seemingly sincerity was perfect timing.
Flip over.
She spent some time massaging my chest and above my dick which was a nice build up. She had very small hands so the double handed wank was welcomed. All was slowly slowly. I asked could I see her ass as this was my favorite, no ass view but she allowed me to zip down her top to view her absolutely beautiful natural breasts. Asked to come on her face, no breasts, no stomach, no (if you don't ask, right? To be honest, most of my questions were answered no but it didn't dampen the experience at all. Blew the load and showered after.
30-35 mins spent before final shower.
Price: 198 rmb.
WIR: Been twice already. Looking forward to third.Can't PM you for the address so care to give a bit more info? You don't have a subscription
Like you, I get bored with the obvious places so much prefer going to a legit spa, finding a good massage girl and working on her over time. Its much more fun and you do end up getting a great massage too!
It's actually rare to find a semi legit spa / salon in Beijing that will offer a HJ as standard. They do exist and I know a few but typically it's either a legit place wit good massage or a seedy place with services.
Every girl (and I mean virtually every girl) has their price. It just depends on how high your willing to go for the thrill. I don't know how many times I've got a crap massage and a robotic HJ for 300 then leave and think, well, I could have just done that myself and saved the money. No thrill.
Whereas, if you're a gambler like me, raise the stakes. See how far you have to go before you hit your ceiling.
I had a fantastic FS session with a stunning young (and very tight) girl in Jainwai soho B3 a while back for 700. Took me 2 attempts to get her with the first just a BJ for 300.
On the flip side, I've paid 1800 for just a HJ in the Millenium hotel spa, just because I wanted to see if the girls repeated statement of NO! Would subside.
I actually have a regular legit place I go about once a month. I'd go more often but it's 600 for the 90 minutes plus 1500 for the FS but for me, it's worth every penny. The girl trusts me (took months to get to this point but been going for about 3 years now), I normally get FS twice plus a BJ in that 90 minutes (if I can manage it.) then she showers with me at the end. Bonus is that it's minutes from my office.
Before anyone calls BS, I don't get it every time. Sometimes I just think the price I offer vs the girl / massage isn't worth it so if I get to a price where I don't think its worth pushing, then I'll stop.
If anyone's interested in a place which is a good and easy push for this, there's one where about 70% of the girls will give you a HJ for less than 600 near China world. All will say no at first but most will give in around that point. Start moaning and groaning when they're doing your ass then start guiding their hands down inside your shorts when they're rubbing your stomach (or 'accidently' pop out of the shorts.).
PM me for the name. It's easy to find. If you don't have PM, go to China World and order a cocktail of tequila, gin, rum and triple sec and look out the window.
I've been busy and had not gone back to the building near Chaoyang Park for almost four months. Around 11 pm, it was completely deserted, with my favorite place on the sixth floor all the way to the right also having closed since the new year. That's a shame because it was a no BS shop with FS at 600. Today, the shops that regularly advertise in magazines were open, but the smaller ones were either closed or not taking customers. Luckily, the place I used to frequent on the 4th floor was open, and the mid-30 ish store front girl recognized me. She has a new 21 yr old round face (JJ) sorta cute girl available. I've had the store front girl (SS) a number of times, very very kind and really gets into it. She asked me to take the young girl because it was a slow day. I'd say it was an okay experience, but lacked the GFE that I had with the older lady. She wanted 800, which is much more than I usually pay, but I figured that it was the premium to fuck a relatively fresh looking cute 21 yr old. Not going to bore you with the details, but on my way out, SS said next time me, which is what I plan to do.
I will be in Beijing July 22 thru July 31 if any of the old gang is around to meet for a drink.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-08-15, 02:37
There are 100's of such places in Beijing. That service and price describe places that can be found by the dozens (no exageration here) in most well populated areas beyond the 5th ring. I can personally attest to 15 such places (I had to sit and think for awhile) that I've visited within the last year, and I know of dozens more. Once you've visited a few you get a sense of what to look for. Indeed, even in 100% legit MPs many girls will offer HJ once you get to know them, and occassionally more.
I enjoy massage, even without any additional services, so wander into such places often. I have a long standing relationship with a lovely young girl who I meet outside the salon for really comprehensive lovemaking sessions a few times monthly. This girl does only legitimate massage, no extra services, at work and we've never discussed money. I leave a few hundred quai on her nightstand. I know other masseuses who willingly provide BJ / FS, some on the first visit, others once you get to know them (by the 2nd-4th visit).
I have a few regular places that are just the right distance from home (just far enough, not too close) but have, on occassion, visited places all over the eastern / southeastern / northeastern suburbs. I'm happy to share info via PM.
On another note, I receive lots of inquiries. While I'm happy to share, sharing is a 2 way street. I certainly understand that newcomers / visiters aren't likely to have much info, but it's just common courtesy to give feedback, if not openly in the forum then via PM. I rarely hear back from the guys to whom I provide info. In one recent example, I answered no fewer than 8 pms, provided addresses, names and phone numbers to one guy. I even gave him an intro to a sauna manager. After his trip, I never heard a word back from him. So if you ask for info, kindly be prepared to share.
On average, been going to LJ 3-4 times a week for the past year and a half, never once had a bad experience there. You might consider it a shit hole or not up to your standards, fair enough, each to their own. I am just sharing what I consider to be value for money. Honestly, I don't see the point in shooting down other honest posters. Its just 'troll-like' behavior in my opinion.
Anyway, due to the wonders of motorbike hunting, I found a place that suits my current desires:
The obvious HJ / FS places have been boring me recently so I started to jump into what look like legit massage places and inquiring about the prices. A few were "Get out of here, we don't do that kind of thing in here" but I found one place that was a pleasant surprise.
Location: Close to home.
Walked in, asked for massage with HJ, no problem.
Name: Xiao something.
For the first time, I was shown the shower before deed began. Big room, showered (girl not present) and blue paper pants provided, haha. Always makes me laugh. Girl comes back in, lie face down and the back massage begins. Obviously no massage qualifications but was a decent rub down. About 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see but the feeling of her rubbing herself against me is always a turn on. Plenty of chat but could only understand 50%. Then she slid down to my ankles and pulled the blue pants down. This, for me was the best part. Telling me how much she loved my ass, rubbing oil all over it, massaging my balls and stroking my dick. Recently, all I have wanted is a girl to play with my cock and talk to me about how much she prefers a foreign cock, telling me about how small Chinese cocks are and how big mine is. All bullshit but the seemingly sincerity was perfect timing.
Flip over.
She spent some time massaging my chest and above my dick which was a nice build up. She had very small hands so the double handed wank was welcomed. All was slowly slowly. I asked could I see her ass as this was my favorite, no ass view but she allowed me to zip down her top to view her absolutely beautiful natural breasts. Asked to come on her face, no breasts, no stomach, no (if you don't ask, right? To be honest, most of my questions were answered no but it didn't dampen the experience at all. Blew the load and showered after.
30-35 mins spent before final shower.
Price: 198 rmb.
WIR: Been twice already. Looking forward to third.
Can't PM you for the address so care to give a bit more info? You don't have a subscription
Like you, I get bored with the obvious places so much prefer going to a legit spa, finding a good massage girl and working on her over time. Its much more fun and you do end up getting a great massage too!
It's actually rare to find a semi legit spa / salon in Beijing that will offer a HJ as standard. They do exist and I know a few but typically it's either a legit place wit good massage or a seedy place with services.
Every girl (and I mean virtually every girl) has their price. It just depends on how high your willing to go for the thrill. I don't know how many times I've got a crap massage and a robotic HJ for 300 then leave and think, well, I could have just done that myself and saved the money. No thrill.
Whereas, if you're a gambler like me, raise the stakes. See how far you have to go before you hit your ceiling.
I had a fantastic FS session with a stunning young (and very tight) girl in Jainwai soho B3 a while back for 700. Took me 2 attempts to get her with the first just a BJ for 300..Let me just say, I totally agree with you. I love finding that price. It makes the whole thing more interesting and dynamic. Nice post!
PM me for the name. It's easy to find. If you don't have PM, go to China World and order a cocktail of tequila, gin, rum and triple sec and look out the window.But I am super surprised. I've had luck pushing at the Soho down the Lu, but that place. I thought was 110% legit!
For those who live in the neighborhood. Starting to see some MP / HJ places popping back up. Sorry I don't have Direct message, but the neighborhood. While not as lively as it used to be in the early 00's, is starting to show some life. Not as expensive as it used to be either, 400 for HJ, (various states of undress / roaming hands no problem) seems to be the going rate.
BillyBobBill
07-08-15, 14:13
I enjoy massage, even without any additional services, so wander into such places often. I have a long standing relationship with a lovely young girl who I meet outside the salon for really comprehensive lovemaking sessions a few times monthly. This girl does only legitimate massage, no extra services, at work and we've never discussed money. I leave a few hundred quai on her nightstand. I know other masseuses who willingly provide BJ / FS, some on the first visit, others once you get to know them (by the 2nd-4th visit).
I have a few regular places that are just the right distance from home (just far enough, not too close) but have, on occassion, visited places all over the eastern / southeastern / northeastern suburbs. I'm happy to share info via PM.
Good post and this was exactly my point too. Once you get to know the girls and you're nice to them, treating them with a decent level of respect, you can build the relationship a bit and get what you want.
Like you, maybe it's because I'm getting old now, but I often go for just a good massage and am not really that bothered with the extras but if it's on offer or seems apparent then it's always a great bonus.
And you are spot on too about the signs. I've been to more spas in my life than I care to remember but normally you can tell within the first few minutes if extras are on offer.
I'm based near China world and don't wander too far from the route between work and home (about a 15 minute walk) but I could probably visit a different place every day for a month on the way home and still not get to them all.
Just need to do your own research and be prepared to have a few good legit massages first. When the signs are there for extras, you can't miss them.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-09-15, 00:29
400 quai for a HJ? If you're happy with that price more power to you (and to the girls, who certainly need the money), but more, much more is available in that neighborhood at that price point. If all you want is a good massage and HJ, I know of a nice place in that area where a lovely Hunanese spinner will accomodate you for less than 200. WangJing is close by, where there are countless MPs.
Join ISG and PM me for details.
For those who live in the neighborhood. Starting to see some MP / HJ places popping back up. Sorry I don't have Direct message, but the neighborhood. While not as lively as it used to be in the early 00's, is starting to show some life. Not as expensive as it used to be either, 400 for HJ, (various states of undress / roaming hands no problem) seems to be the going rate.
400 quai for a HJ? If you're happy with that price more power to you (and to the girls, who certainly need the money), but more, much more is available in that neighborhood at that price point. If all you want is a good massage and HJ, I know of a nice place in that area where a lovely Hunanese spinner will accomodate you for less than 200. WangJing is close by, where there are countless MPs.
Join ISG and PM me for details.Meh, when the list price for the massage itself is 300, and I pay 200 to the house, and 200 to the girl to get her completely naked. I don't think that's such a bad deal. But I do so appreciate your efforts to 'one up' me. I'll pay her 200 a couple of times, build up the rapport. I am OK with that. I can find cheaper too. But the point more is, that the neighborhood is coming back a bit. The places are classier than they were in the heyday, but, it's refreshing in a way, to find the neighborhood coming out of the cold, even if the Lido bar is closed.
I've been busy and had not gone back to the building near Chaoyang Park for almost four months. Around 11 pm, it was completely deserted, with my favorite place on the sixth floor all the way to the right also having closed since the new year. That's a shame because it was a no BS shop with FS at 600. Today, the shops that regularly advertise in magazines were open, but the smaller ones were either closed or not taking customers. Luckily, the place I used to frequent on the 4th floor was open, and the mid-30 ish store front girl recognized me. She has a new 21 yr old round face (JJ) sorta cute girl available. I've had the store front girl (SS) a number of times, very very kind and really gets into it. She asked me to take the young girl because it was a slow day. I'd say it was an okay experience, but lacked the GFE that I had with the older lady. She wanted 800, which is much more than I usually pay, but I figured that it was the premium to fuck a relatively fresh looking cute 21 yr old. Not going to bore you with the details, but on my way out, SS said next time me, which is what I plan to do.I always found this building a little creepy (with the crappy elevator, long long halls), but now I find it super creepy with so many of the shops closed, lights out. You sir, are braver than I!
Charlie Shine
07-10-15, 08:48
After a few pints at the Irish V decided to head home. I'd been sitting on my fat arse all day so decided to leg it as I live in Wangjing xi and it's not too far away. I hit Wangjing xi Lu and near the corner of a dark little street I spied a tall woman with a handy figure looking like she was on the make. She saw me, made a whistle sound in that oh-so subtle way, and gave me her best come hither look. I asked how much and she held up one finger. As my ex wife would say, "At these prices why not.
I followed her along Wangjing xi Lu where she turned off in an alley with an iron gate to old community housing blocks. Inside her apartment she led me to a her room. Inside was a bed illuminated by a TV and a wardrobe by the side. I handed over 100 and she stripped off. I guessed she was mid to late 30's, not ugly but not stunning, with long silky black hair and skin a very light shade of oriental. She had kept her shape and thankfully wasn't so skinny that her pelvic bones stuck out. I stripped off and sat next to her on the bed. She played with my cock a bit, the usual sneaky check for nasties, and asked me some questions in Chinese. The usual patter. She jerked me to hardness as I my hands roamed across her smooth skin. She applied the rubber, she offered a CBJ for wu kwai but I passed as these are as unnatural as it gets.
I started slow but having had a few I needed to really bang her to get the blood pumping from within and with each thrust drew from her a suitable sweet grunt of plain tinged with pleasure. After about 15 minutes or so I felt the fire working upwards. I held her close, as is my kink, close enough to smell the cigarette she had just finished, close enough to nudge her face against mine, feel her soft hair and hear every breath she exhaled as my fat body invaded hers. I held her tight, had her clasp her legs close and happily shot deep inside her. She let me linger inside to let the last few drops out and when the pleasure subsided I dismounted, dressed and walked home.
I returned the other day, in the arvo and discovered that this grimy little street with cheap restaurants, a hairdresser and home to various courier companies also has a BB (100 kwai) and is home to several geriatric service providers, all a bit on the porky side and one likely a great grand mother but to each his own, I say. They all gleefully offer themselves for the price of a few pints. How to find it? From the direction of Wangjing xi metro head down the aforementioned road, past the abandoned Novo, past the first street which leads to the community housing and take the next right. There are car wash lackeys, a stinking community waste site on the corner and cheap bang for your buck!
I always found this building a little creepy (with the crappy elevator, long long halls), but now I find it super creepy with so many of the shops closed, lights out. You sir, are braver than I!I might just be stupid. I actually never take the elevator, but use the stairs, which is even more creepier. But that way you look more like a local and I just keep my head down and walk to the shop I intended to go to.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-11-15, 05:17
I'm not in competition with anyone here, JF, nor am I concerned with heirarchy. What is, or is not, "such a bad deal" is entirely between you and your provider. If you're happy with the deal, good for you. Again, there are literally dozens of MPs just north of there in WangJing where a flat 188-198 buys you a tuiyou session, HJ inclusive. Another MP, very close to the one you mention, has a similar price structure for TY (168), but they'll offer the same extras with less costly massages (88 for Chinese style) and the girls offer the same extras for less.
If you've been around a few years you can recall when there were a few shops near the intersection of Jiangtai Lu and Fangyuan Li, 4 to the north of the intersection and 4 to the east, all owned by the same guy, all with the same MO; girls hanging out near the doorways, doing their best to attract passing males inside. The house got a flat fee (usually 200) which bought a few minutes and some facsimile of massage by the girl in a small cubicle. The girls weren't paid at all by the house, so were expected to offer extras and to negotiate the tip. I heard more stories than I can recall of unassuming guys being dragged (literally; the girls would dash out and grab innocent looking guys by the arm and pull them into the shops) into those places and coughing up 400-500 quai for a quick handjob.
In those days, better service was available from numerous BBSs within a few blocks for 100. A few blocks to the north in Wangjing were many apartment brothels, where 300 would buy you an hour with the SYT of your choice, and MPs offered a 90 minute tuiyou sesion for rmb 160. The places near Lido depended on fresh clients since few would return, hence the aggressive marketing. Over time the girls were required to stop soliciting first, then to stop sitting in plain view in the windows / doorways altogether (roughly 2 yrs ago) , which spelled the doom of those places. They were not closed down by LE, but required to stop their aggressive marketing tactics due to complaints from neighbors, which ultimately had the same effect. The sole survivor is the walk up on Jiangtai Lu directly across from BJU. If prices are more reasonable now, it's simply because they have to follow a more typical business model now since few would ever return under the previous MO. Necessity, so they say, is a mother.
These are, to the best of my knowledge, facts. Not opinion, not rumor. I've never heard anyone say a kind word about any of those places. My sincere appologies to anyone who gets their knickers in a knot over these comments.
Meh, when the list price for the massage itself is 300, and I pay 200 to the house, and 200 to the girl to get her completely naked. I don't think that's such a bad deal. But I do so appreciate your efforts to 'one up' me. I'll pay her 200 a couple of times, build up the rapport. I am OK with that. I can find cheaper too. But the point more is, that the neighborhood is coming back a bit. The places are classier than they were in the heyday, but, it's refreshing in a way, to find the neighborhood coming out of the cold, even if the Lido bar is closed.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-11-15, 07:03
This is something you don't see too often on this board; a credible SW report! And so cost-effective! LOL.
I haven't been in awhile, but several blocks east of E 3rd ring on Yaojiayuan has been a notorious streetwalking zone for years. Before the Olympics you could count literally dozens, some quite attractive, others less. The most likely areas are the blocks immediately north and south of the first intersection (that is, the first light east of 3rd ring). There'll be ladies loitering on the benches in the shadows after sunset. The price was always 100,150 incl BJ. I can attest that there was still action a few months ago.
QUOTE=Charlie Shine;1744795]After a few pints at the Irish V decided to head home. I'd been sitting on my fat arse all day so decided to leg it as I live in Wangjing xi and it's not too far away. I hit Wangjing xi Lu and near the corner of a dark little street I spied a tall woman with a handy figure looking like she was on the make. She saw me, made a whistle sound in that oh-so subtle way, and gave me her best come hither look. I asked how much and she held up one finger. As my ex wife would say, "At these prices why not.
Hi adventure seekers,
It is my first and only night in Beijing before I head out to another city. Anyone interested in meeting up and going for adventure together? It could be fun.
My plan would be to meet up in at Shangri-La Hotel's bar (80th floor) of World Trade World Centre at around 9 pm, have a lough, share few stories and head over to Maggie's. Considering their prices, it is a good place to warm up, drool over some hotties but then. Head over to one of the members clubs instead. There we could get more elaborate service at lower cost.
Any joiners, PM me or comment on this post.
Your fellow thrill seeker.
Hi guys,
Since I am in Beijing for one night only and my plan to get the few of adventurers together did not work out, I decided to use 'Pretty Angels' from Classified Ads section on this website. I liked that the owner is promising to be honest and open by answering potential questions on her post. After short conversation we agreed on what I wanted and time of pick up from the hotel lobby. The girl arrived about 10 min late and seemed really upset, kept arguing with someone on the phone and would not even look at me. Since I am an easy going guy, once we got to the room I gave her the money for the taxi and waved her good bye. I want to have fun with the girl not feel that she is doing me a favour.
Interestingly, the owner texted within 5 minutes asking what was wrong, explaining that the girl was upset with the taxi driver and if I want she would come back. Well, I agreed, and picked up the girl again. This time she was a completely different person. Giggled a bit, gave me a hug once in the room etc. So we got to the shower, proceeded to my sofa with fantastic views from level 67 (Shangri-La hotel). Where she gave me a nice BBBJ while I enjoyed the view and played with the TV to get the music going. Some more BBBJ on the bed, followed by Missionary and Doggy. Then she moved to linking my balls and then on to Analinus so I can finish on her.
The girl was just as I wanted, she did not ask for extra and although she spoke no English we managed to communicate. I paid agreed RMB600 (+ previous RMB100 for taxi) and gave her RMB100 bonus for unexpected but much appreciated Analingus.
Just in case you wondered, the girl was about 20, very slim, came with a nice white dress and high heels. Very sexy but not too slutty. 100% satisfied.
ValleyMonger
07-11-15, 20:13
Hi all,
I've been to Beijing once a few months ago, and will be there again soon. Although pricey (usd 100), I found some nice looking Russian girls at Chocolate. Are there any other places in that area (apart from Maggie's) where you can find girls to take elsewhere for a fun time?
I'd also welcome suggestions about where to go in that area. I've been to Xiu, but wonder if you guys have tried picking up girls there? Seemed to me as a place for higher income people, with little opportunities to pick up a girl (unless you're willing to pay a lot of money).
Thanks in advance,
VM
Hey guys,
I found ISG in preparation for first visit to BJ / China on work. Not totally new to the hobby, used to partake when living in Africa and contributed reports to a different forum. Arrived for two weeks stay yesterday, staying east of Olympic Forest Park near 5 ring road. Lincuiquio stop on #8. Office is in Haidan near 3rd ring.
After extensive RTFF, I've decided to ask for PMs for advice.
This is what I'm interested in:
1. Outcall to hotel, probably from Kitty or similar provider. If anyone can share contacts with a specific girl that'the be good. From an agent or as an independent. Otherwise I'll tell kitty my needs, which are not extensive. Looking for sensuous GFE, BBBJ. Speaks some English, as I have no mandarin at all.
2. Will likely try my luck on Lijun Lu, after reading the reports from EasilyPleased and others. I like the boots on the ground approach, and with the reports here, this seems worth attempting. A little worried about the language, but we'll see what happens. Huilongguan is easier to get to by subway, is one area better than the other?
3. Finally, I'the love to find a good no-drama MP where I can get a good oily rubdown with inclusive he for a fair price. I don't want the he to be an add-on at the end involving a lot of negotiation. If there is discussion, it's over BJ or FS. Can be HJ, or better yet BJ, but mainly just where the girl is in the business of providing erotic relief. Definitely want touching allowed. Doesn't have to be a stunner at all. I know there are some higher end services like this, but I'm looking for something a little lower market. I've seen reports from years back of such places, but I don't think I saw recent reports. I would think this would be relatively easy to find in BJ, and I'm hoping to not have to go far. I'm thinking some local knowledge could really help me with this one, as the MPs seem to be hit and miss.
Obviously as a visitor, I'm unlikely to reciprocate with useful new information right away, but I do hope that I'll be back for work in the future. So, in return for your help, you can expect me to: PM thanks, adhere to current pricing as best I can, and post appropriate reports.
Thanks for the help.
Hi EP2! Would you mind sharing a bit more on where this place is? Thanks.
On average, been going to LJ 3-4 times a week for the past year and a half, never once had a bad experience there. You might consider it a shit hole or not up to your standards, fair enough, each to their own. I am just sharing what I consider to be value for money. Honestly, I don't see the point in shooting down other honest posters. Its just 'troll-like' behavior in my opinion.
Anyway, due to the wonders of motorbike hunting, I found a place that suits my current desires:
The obvious HJ / FS places have been boring me recently so I started to jump into what look like legit massage places and inquiring about the prices. A few were "Get out of here, we don't do that kind of thing in here" but I found one place that was a pleasant surprise.
Location: Close to home.
Walked in, asked for massage with HJ, no problem.
Name: Xiao something.
For the first time, I was shown the shower before deed began. Big room, showered (girl not present) and blue paper pants provided, haha. Always makes me laugh. Girl comes back in, lie face down and the back massage begins. Obviously no massage qualifications but was a decent rub down. About 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see but the feeling of her rubbing herself against me is always a turn on. Plenty of chat but could only understand 50%. Then she slid down to my ankles and pulled the blue pants down. This, for me was the best part. Telling me how much she loved my ass, rubbing oil all over it, massaging my balls and stroking my dick. Recently, all I have wanted is a girl to play with my cock and talk to me about how much she prefers a foreign cock, telling me about how small Chinese cocks are and how big mine is. All bullshit but the seemingly sincerity was perfect timing.
Flip over.
She spent some time massaging my chest and above my dick which was a nice build up. She had very small hands so the double handed wank was welcomed. All was slowly slowly. I asked could I see her ass as this was my favorite, no ass view but she allowed me to zip down her top to view her absolutely beautiful natural breasts. Asked to come on her face, no breasts, no stomach, no (if you don't ask, right? To be honest, most of my questions were answered no but it didn't dampen the experience at all. Blew the load and showered after.
30-35 mins spent before final shower.
Price: 198 rmb.
WIR: Been twice already. Looking forward to third.
This is something you don't see too often on this board; a credible SW report! And so cost-effective! LOL.
I haven't been in awhile, but several blocks east of E 3rd ring on Yaojiayuan has been a notorious streetwalking zone for years. Before the Olympics you could count literally dozens, some quite attractive, others less. The most likely areas are the blocks immediately north and south of the first intersection (that is, the first light east of 3rd ring). There'll be ladies loitering on the benches in the shadows after sunset. The price was always 100,150 incl BJ. I can attest that there was still action a few months ago.
QUOTE=Charlie Shine;1744795]After a few pints at the Irish V decided to head home. I'd been sitting on my fat arse all day so decided to leg it as I live in Wangjing xi and it's not too far away. I hit Wangjing xi Lu and near the corner of a dark little street I spied a tall woman with a handy figure looking like she was on the make. She saw me, made a whistle sound in that oh-so subtle way, and gave me her best come hither look. I asked how much and she held up one finger. As my ex wife would say, "At these prices why not.Hello Erasmus,
Thanks for you interesting and useful reports!
May you share more details about this place Yaojiayuan? Actually I was there yesterday, around 9:30 pm, but I could not find any action. I went to the Yaojiayuan road and xinghuoxi lu (north) and shifoying (south) intersection and walk into this area. It is around 400 meters east of east 4th ring, as yaojiayuan lu begins at the 4th ring.
The compounds in the north of intersection are big, luxury-kind with big streets. In the south it is more popular residential compounds. Is it the right place? The girls are usually on the streets or inside the compounds?
Thanks for your help.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-13-15, 16:00
You were in the right place. In the past SWs could be found on both side (E&W) of the intersection anytime after sunset. They'll have you follow, walking well behind them, into an adjacent housing block. Recently (this past spring) I only saw them sitting on the benches east of the intersection. Walk all the way down to the hospital. If you don's see anything, they're gone for the time being. We've been in another crack down for 1 month now, and that area gets frequently swept by police during crack downs. It's been cleaned up many times but always seems to come back later.
One more thing, I've been accosted by SWs on the last block of Xinghuo Xi Lu before reaching Chaoyanggongyuan Nan Lu. Take a look down there, esp around that last corner on the right before the street ends. I've seen them there sporadically.
Hello Erasmus,
Thanks for you interesting and useful reports!
May you share more details about this place Yaojiayuan? Actually I was there yesterday, around 9:30 pm, but I could not find any action. I went to the Yaojiayuan road and xinghuoxi lu (north) and shifoying (south) intersection and walk into this area. It is around 400 meters east of east 4th ring, as yaojiayuan lu begins at the 4th ring.
The compounds in the north of intersection are big, luxury-kind with big streets. In the south it is more popular residential compounds. Is it the right place? The girls are usually on the streets or inside the compounds?
Thanks for your help.
Bad Boy Billy
07-14-15, 01:46
Hi all,
I've been to Beijing once a few months ago, and will be there again soon. Although pricey (usd 100), I found some nice looking Russian girls at Chocolate. Rubbish. Standard price for all the Russians / Uzbeks at Chocolate now is RMB2,000 ST. And only half a dozen in there each night to boot. Your usd 100 story is totally fabricated.
FWIW took a 6ft tall Mongol stunner from Maggies Sunday night - best looking Momgol I have seen there in years - I asked her how much - she said you offer - 100 - how about 1200 - you stay all night - why not? = deal done and out the door within 5 mins of first talking to her.
One crazy phuck - as I was doggy phucking her she was whinnying like a horse - finished in mish whilst I had tongue in her ears - she screamed the house down - her first time in Beijing and she is off back to UB today or tomorrow, Nadaam Festival in Mongolia now so Mongol offerings very sparse.
FernandoAlonso
07-14-15, 14:23
You were in the right place. In the past SWs could be found on both side (E&W) of the intersection anytime after sunset. They'll have you follow, walking well behind them, into an adjacent housing block. Recently (this past spring) I only saw them sitting on the benches east of the intersection. Walk all the way down to the hospital. If you don's see anything, they're gone for the time being. We've been in another crack down for 1 month now, and that area gets frequently swept by police during crack downs. It's been cleaned up many times but always seems to come back later.
One more thing, I've been accosted by SWs on the last block of Xinghuo Xi Lu before reaching Chaoyanggongyuan Nan Lu. Take a look down there, esp around that last corner on the right before the street ends. I've seen them there sporadically.Guys,
Just a warning. Stormy weather at the moment. The area described do not go to the north part. This is mainly a government living compound. And Yaojiayuan Road starts at 3 rdRing Road and that part of it used to be of interest too. But in my experience now street action will be very limited.
Play safe.
FA.
ValleyMonger
07-15-15, 01:20
Rubbish. Standard price for all the Russians / Uzbeks at Chocolate now is RMB2,000 ST. And only half a dozen in there each night to boot. Your usd 100 story is totally fabricated.Why would I lie about the price? I've got no interest in doing so, whatsoever.
In any case, my experience was usd 100 - that was what I got two nights in a row, and went home both times in good company (fwiw, you're right, there are only about 5 or 6 girls each night that I would do).
Hey,
Went to Lijun road near the subway stop for the first time last night. I was there at 10:45 pm and it was dead quiet. I have no doubt whatsoever that I was in the right place, it matched various descriptions perfectly. Walked on the lower level, ground level, and second level. There was one open door with a blanket blocking the view, peeking in I saw a couple of ordinary girls, probably the type of place I was looking for but it certainly wasn't open for business at that time. Left to go meet my friend. Disappointing because I gave up a surer thing inside 4th ring road, found a BBS that offer FS at 150. So was I just there too early or are there sinister forces at work?
This is something you don't see too often on this board; a credible SW report! And so cost-effective! LOL.
I haven't been in awhile, but several blocks east of E 3rd ring on Yaojiayuan has been a notorious streetwalking zone for years. Before the Olympics you could count literally dozens, some quite attractive, others less. The most likely areas are the blocks immediately north and south of the first intersection (that is, the first light east of 3rd ring). There'll be ladies loitering on the benches in the shadows after sunset. The price was always 100,150 incl BJ. I can attest that there was still action a few months ago.Now they are charging around 300 per shot but depending on their mood I guess. Some of them tend to rush their service. Also don't expect any accommodating interior should you choose to visit their place.
Bad Boy Billy
07-17-15, 06:04
Why would I lie about the price? I've got no interest in doing so, whatsoever.
In any case, my experience was usd 100 - that was what I got two nights in a row, and went home both times in good company (fwiw, you're right, there are only about 5 or 6 girls each night that I would do).I have no idea why you would post this BULLSHIT. USD100 = CNY620? Do you know how long it has been since any Ruskie would go bang a monger for RMB620? Like 20 phucking years. So don't bother to post such crap again. It's only making look like a right royal idiot.
FirePusher
07-17-15, 06:47
Rubbish. Standard price for all the Russians / Uzbeks at Chocolate now is RMB2,000 ST. And only half a dozen in there each night to boot. Your usd 100 story is totally fabricated.
FWIW took a 6ft tall Mongol stunner from Maggies Sunday night - best looking Momgol I have seen there in years - I asked her how much - she said you offer - 100 - how about 1200 - you stay all night - why not? = deal done and out the door within 5 mins of first talking to her.
One crazy phuck - as I was doggy phucking her she was whinnying like a horse - finished in mish whilst I had tongue in her ears - she screamed the house down - her first time in Beijing and she is off back to UB today or tomorrow, Nadaam Festival in Mongolia now so Mongol offerings very sparse.If you wouldn't mind, could you explain what you mean by 100 after "she said you offer"? I don't really get the dashes, is that the flow of conversation?
Regardless, sounds great. What is the going rate for Mongols at Maggie's these days? Are there other places where they hang out?
Hello fellow adventurers,
I only spent 4 nights in Beijing, but I am so pleased that I found the time to go to Maggie's. After reading the comments bellow I was very skeptical about the place and almost gave it a miss. How pleased I am that I did not!
It is very European style which is a nice break I guess, the choice of girls was not bad at all and they were not too much in your face. In fact the whole atmosphere is definitely the best I have seen in similar establishments. There was a really good band on Friday night, it was worth coming just for their performance. I just loved the place, the design, the atmosphere. It peaked at 1 -2 am. It is interesting that there was no entrance fee?
Also, I was scared that (based on reviews bellow) girls are going to ask 2-3 K, but from my experience:
Russian girl RMB 1200 for the whole night (but I think she liked the idea of my upscale hotel, swimming pool and breakfast in executive lounge).
Quite round Mongolian girl, not everyone's taste that's for sure, sounded desperate at RMB600.
Really slim and tall Kazakh (probably) RMB 1500 for an hour, RMB 2500 for the whole night.
As much as I loved the place and the girls, in the end I still ordered my adventure from Angel (in classified listings) as they get it so right to what I feel for that night, at 700 RMB for an hour (also my chosen girl from Maggie's was snapped by another monger, damn it, but I am happy for the fellow adventurer too).
I have been there in the past as early as 2 or 3 pm and was still able to find action. What exactly do you mean by lower level and that ground level? Is the lower the kind of sunken open air lobby like area? I can't speak for other mongers' experience but I had never found any real action there. The shops I visited in the past were all a little bit further down the road.
Hey,
Went to Lijun road near the subway stop for the first time last night. I was there at 10:45 pm and it was dead quiet. I have no doubt whatsoever that I was in the right place, it matched various descriptions perfectly. Walked on the lower level, ground level, and second level. There was one open door with a blanket blocking the view, peeking in I saw a couple of ordinary girls, probably the type of place I was looking for but it certainly wasn't open for business at that time. Left to go meet my friend. Disappointing because I gave up a surer thing inside 4th ring road, found a BBS that offer FS at 150. So was I just there too early or are there sinister forces at work?
Bad Boy Billy
07-18-15, 06:24
If you wouldn't mind, could you explain what you mean by 100 after "she said you offer"? I don't really get the dashes, is that the flow of conversation?Sorry 100 was a typo. It should have been CNY1,000 or RMB1. 000 same same. She countered with RMB1,200 which I jumped at. She was a STAR.
You were in the right place. In the past SWs could be found on both side (E&W) of the intersection anytime after sunset. They'll have you follow, walking well behind them, into an adjacent housing block. Recently (this past spring) I only saw them sitting on the benches east of the intersection. Walk all the way down to the hospital. If you don's see anything, they're gone for the time being. We've been in another crack down for 1 month now, and that area gets frequently swept by police during crack downs. It's been cleaned up many times but always seems to come back later.
One more thing, I've been accosted by SWs on the last block of Xinghuo Xi Lu before reaching Chaoyanggongyuan Nan Lu. Take a look down there, esp around that last corner on the right before the street ends. I've seen them there sporadically.Thanks for the information, I will try again and report if I have any success.
Guys,
Just a warning. Stormy weather at the moment. The area described do not go to the north part. This is mainly a government living compound. And Yaojiayuan Road starts at 3 rdRing Road and that part of it used to be of interest too. But in my experience now street action will be very limited.
Play safe.
FA.According to Baidu maps, Yaojiayuan starts at 4th ring, before it is Nong zhan guan nan or Chaoyang gong yuan nan, but anyway thank you for the warning.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-18-15, 17:10
Yaojiayuan starts at the 3rd ring, where it runs parallel to Chaoyanggongyaun NanLu, a few hundred meters to the south. Beyond the 4th ring, it does a dog leg and is continuous with Chaoyanggongyaun NanLu. So, the two portions of Yaojiayuan are not colinear.
Beyond the 4th Yaojiayuan is a much larger road; a major thoroughfare. There are a few "spas" within the first km or so, one on the left and a couple on the right. These look like MPs; it's a fad now to call massage places "Spa".
According to Baidu maps, Yaojiayuan starts at 4th ring, before it is Nong zhan guan nan or Chaoyang gong yuan nan, but anyway thank you for the warning.
I am also tired of the fake reviews on Kitty service. I know better from previous experience. It is a low end service that you will only try once as you will not get what is written in these fake reviews. Kitty only business is new people on this site that get tricked by these fake reviews. I advise all new people who read this forum to avoid Kitty services. Save your money for a good experience. This crap has been going on for years.Thanks a lot of all your messages about not to go to 'kitty.
Do you know then a real reliable service for outcall?
Many thanks in advance.
ValleyMonger
07-19-15, 02:33
I have no idea why you would post this BULLSHIT. USD100 = CNY620? Do you know how long it has been since any Ruskie would go bang a monger for RMB620? Like 20 phucking years. So don't bother to post such crap again. It's only making look like a right royal idiot.Billy,
Don't take things so personally, your anger might end up affecting your heart.
I was wrong, and have no problem recognizing it, nor posting an update / corrected notice. At the end, this forum is to help each other with intel, right? It wasn't usd 100 what I paid back in February, but 1,000 yuan (rounded to usd 150) - and that happened twice with girls I met at Chocolate.
Last night I went to Maggie's, and a blonde from Kazakhstan offered her company for 1,500 yuan. I passed, but I think she would have accepted 1,200 (usd 200), or even less if it was late enough (the later it gets, the more negotiable prices are, in my experience).
I also passed by Chocolate, but didn't stay for more than 10 minutes. It was 1 am, and not a single attractive girl, apart from the fact that air conditioning was extremely poor on a hot humid night.
Cheers,
VM
Billy,
Don't take things so personally, your anger might end up affecting your heart.
I was wrong, and have no problem recognizing it, nor posting an update / corrected notice. At the end, this forum is to help each other with intel, right? It wasn't usd 100 what I paid back in February, but 1,000 yuan (rounded to usd 150) - and that happened twice with girls I met at Chocolate.
Last night I went to Maggie's, and a blonde from Kazakhstan offered her company for 1,500 yuan. I passed, but I think she would have accepted 1,200 (usd 200), or even less if it was late enough (the later it gets, the more negotiable prices are, in my experience).
I also passed by Chocolate, but didn't stay for more than 10 minutes. It was 1 am, and not a single attractive girl, apart from the fact that air conditioning was extremely poor on a hot humid night.
Cheers,
VMCould you share the Kazakhstan blonde to us, thank you very much.
Bad Boy Billy
07-20-15, 06:20
Could you share the Kazakhstan blonde to us, thank you very much.You really do not want the Kazak blonde unless you are really really desperate. She is about 5 ft 2 in tall. Probably 32-35 - has a kid and generally pretty plain. Plenty better options in the Mongol stakes.
Bad Boy Billy
07-20-15, 06:22
I was wrong, and have no problem recognizing it, nor posting an update / corrected notice. At the end, this forum is to help each other with intel, right? It wasn't usd 100 what I paid back in February, but 1,000 yuan (rounded to usd 150) - and that happened twice with girls I met at Chocolate.And 1000 is still BULLSHIT. At least you got the Kazak's offer of 1500 in Maggies right.
And 1000 is still BULLSHIT. At least you got the Kazak's offer of 1500 in Maggies right.I agree there hasn't been a 1000 RMB Russian in the last 10 years in China let alone Chocolat.
Following on from exceptionally helpful advice from Erasmus be Dragin I finally managed to get myself to Wangjing to experience one of the MP located there. Spite some reservations the place was clean and well appointed. I was offered a drink and the usual blue shorts, don't worry they didn't stay on long. My massuse hailed from Sichuan, her name was something-gan (I forgot the first part), and although a little plump, she was therefore she had a little more up top than your average Chinese. She gave me a pretty good massage on my back and then my legs. After, whilst still laying on my front, she pulled my legs onto hers and started the credit card ass crack swipes and some shaft stroking, with some alternating tingly tickles. A short while later, she flipped me over and started to work for her money. Almost full roaming, she wasn't too happy with my fingers inside her, but everything else was a go. Ce she'd finished me off she gave the front of my legs and arms a good working over. I settled up 198 RMB all inclusive, no tip required, although I gave her a little something to sweeten up for next time. Feel free to PM for details and many thanks to EBD for his guidance and recommendation.
Charlie Shine
07-23-15, 08:14
Yaojiayuan starts at the 3rd ring, where it runs parallel to Chaoyanggongyaun NanLu, a few hundred meters to the south. Beyond the 4th ring, it does a dog leg and is continuous with Chaoyanggongyaun NanLu. So, the two portions of Yaojiayuan are not colinear.
Beyond the 4th Yaojiayuan is a much larger road; a major thoroughfare. There are a few "spas" within the first km or so, one on the left and a couple on the right. These look like MPs; it's a fad now to call massage places "Spa".Wish I had known this before as I have left BJ for Guangzhou. Oh well.
Talking about S. W, I did see some outside of DongDan Park a few months ago when I was walking my ex GF's dog. One lady stopped me to pat the dog but actually wanted to proposition me. Wanted 300 for S T.
Considering she was about 60, I think she was optimistic to say the least. There were about 5 women, all around 40-60 just after dusk and loitering along the wall outside the front gate.
Considering this is BJ's most famous gay meeting spot, I'm not sure what they were doing there. Of course, I had better things waiting for me a few blocks away so I didn't even think about partaking.
Anyway, good luck to everyone in BJ. Guangzhou is actually much worse for S. W and BBS so consider yourselves somewhat lucky.
Following on from exceptionally helpful advice from Erasmus be Dragin I finally managed to get myself to Wangjing to experience one of the MP located there..I live in Wangjing, would love to check it out. Can you send directions please?
Thanks!
So I live in Wangjing for the past 3 years. I tried the MP in Wangjing 4 times. First time went to XinCheng- probably walked into a legit MP and got nothing but a great massage. Second time, went in XinCheng again and saw nothing but 35+ women sitting inside. Walked out. The third time. Walked into DongYa tower, got an average massage and quoted 300 for HJ. Fourth time. Went into QiLin companion, next to WangJing SOHO, got an amazing massage but again quoted for 300 for HJ. Now I read some great reviews for WangJing for less than 200 + HJ, can anyone share a nice location?
Thanks!
Arrived from Jinan about midnight and decided to go for a beer to Maggies. Marginal crowd but very little talent. Most of the girls probably haven't returned to Beijing yet. Talked to 3 or 4. Two of which were new but not really my type. It is probably as bad as I have ever seen it. Friday night so will probably go there for a few drinks tonight if anybody is around.
Bad Boy Billy
07-24-15, 05:39
Canada I assume staying Lido? Check if any African girls in area first. Café del Mar has closed and I have no idea where they are congregating now. Maybe The Irish Volunteer. Maybe Franks.
Centro is always worth a look from 10 pm on. Not hard to pick up a Chinese looking to try a Westerner there but you might not find many 'oil paintings in the gallery'. Swing by Chocolate and have a look before you go to Maggies. See how an offer for USD100 - sorry RMB1,000 goes down. Across the street in Mango you will see some gorgeous Russians and a mixture of old boilers also. But it's worth a look.
Biggest downer with the Ruskies / Uzbeks is so many insisting on CBJ. That's a deal breaker. But please report back.
Dear friend,
Me and my friend are soon visiting China. Friend can read and speak basic chinese.
I showed this site and he said it seems not updated recently.
Also he has no idea about some short codes like TT，XT、MY、KH、DH, TY, MO.
Can you help.
Thanks
For those of you that can read Chinese, there you go.
http://www.dushitiyan.com/default.aspx
A very comprehensive review site IMO. Some parts can be full of shills but the KTV and massage section are pretty clean.
Canada I assume staying Lido? Check if any African girls in area first. Caf del Mar has closed and I have no idea where they are congregating now. Maybe The Irish Volunteer. Maybe Franks.
Centro is always worth a look from 10 pm on. Not hard to pick up a Chinese looking to try a Westerner there but you might not find many 'oil paintings in the gallery'. Swing by Chocolate and have a look before you go to Maggies. See how an offer for USD100 - sorry RMB1,000 goes down. Across the street in Mango you will see some gorgeous Russians and a mixture of old boilers also. But it's worth a look.
Biggest downer with the Ruskies / Uzbeks is so many insisting on CBJ. That's a deal breaker. But please report back.Hi. Actually I am staying at the Crowne Plaza Utown near Chocolate and Maggie's for a few days. Will stay at Crowne Plaza Lido for a couple days next week. Yes I will definitely stop in Chocolat and grab the $100 Russian girl if she is there and then go to Maggie's. The one thing about Maggie's that is impressive is the amount of guys spending money on Maggie's girls. I will try Mangos also. Never been there. Have a few days to scout around a little so should be fun.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-24-15, 13:34
It's a bit late to be posting this and you're not in the area yet anyway, but for those who are, tonight is Ulan Bator Night at the bar in the Jen Hotel, so it should be full of Mongols for the evening. I haven't been there since they stopped hosting a Philippine band 2 months ago, but before that it was Pinay Central every Sat night and there were always 4-5 girls for every guy. The Pinay's weren't WGs, but many were looking to get laid. The Jen Hotel is on the 4th ring Road, just south of Fangyuan XiLu about 1 k south of Lido.
I've never seen any Africans in the IV. Judging from the quality that had been regulars at CdM before it's closure (save one otherwise thin Kenyan with an absolutely surreal ass) I'd say that's not a bad thing.
Hi. Actually I am staying at the Crowne Plaza Utown near Chocolate and Maggie's for a few days. Will stay at Crowne Plaza Lido for a couple days next week. Yes I will definitely stop in Chocolat and grab the $100 Russian girl if she is there and then go to Maggie's. The one thing about Maggie's that is impressive is the amount of guys spending money on Maggie's girls. I will try Mangos also. Never been there. Have a few days to scout around a little so should be fun.
It's a bit late to be posting this and you're not in the area yet anyway, but for those who are, tonight is Ulan Bator Night at the bar in the Jen Hotel, so it should be full of Mongols for the evening. I haven't been there since they stopped hosting a Philippine band 2 months ago, but before that it was Pinay Central every Sat night and there were always 4-5 girls for every guy. The Pinay's weren't WGs, but many were looking to get laid. The Jen Hotel is on the 4th ring Road, just south of Fangyuan XiLu about 1 k south of Lido.
I've never seen any Africans in the IV. Judging from the quality that had been regulars at CdM before it's closure (save one otherwise thin Kenyan with an absolutely surreal ass) I'd say that's not a bad thing.Hi I just saw your message this morning. Is it only Friday night that they have the Ulan Bator Night? I would like to try it sometime. Went to a couple bars last night and then ended up at Maggies. Big crowd. A lot more girls. Only half dozen quality girls but I ended up with a good one. Haven't decided if I want her back tonight or if I might try something different. Thought about going to Vic's tonight as I haven't been there in a couple years.
Hi. Actually I am staying at the Crowne Plaza Utown near Chocolate and Maggie's for a few days. Will stay at Crowne Plaza Lido for a couple days next week. Yes I will definitely stop in Chocolat and grab the $100 Russian girl if she is there and then go to Maggie's. The one thing about Maggie's that is impressive is the amount of guys spending money on Maggie's girls. I will try Mangos also. Never been there. Have a few days to scout around a little so should be fun.I didn't make it to Chocolate but I stopped at Mango at about 10:30 for a beer. They have a great looking singer there. You were right about good looking Russian girls there. There were 6 girls sitting by the bar when I got there. 3 Stunners. But 10 minutes later a Russian guy comes in and they all go sit with him. Not sure I understand what kind of place that is yet.
Erasmus B Dragin
07-26-15, 00:37
Hi I just saw your message this morning. Is it only Friday night that they have the Ulan Bator Night?Not sure. I was taking a short cut and noticed a large banner over the bar, "Ulan Bator Night Tonight", so pulled up, ran in and inquired. A manager confirmed that it was Ulan Bator night, a privately sponsored event that was "open to the public". The place is under new management so I didn't recognize the guy.
If you're interested I'll check into it next time I'm in the area and send you a pm. I've had good luck in that bar, but again, under previous management.
BTW, I wrote "Jen Hotel". The sign on the roof, (visible from 4th rr) reads "Hotel Jen".
So went to a noodle place on xiaoyunlu before tianzelu walking eastward. Only one MP on the road until t street so easy to find. Walked up to the third floor, place looks clean and prices on the wall next to the cashier. Rooms are plentiful and windows on doors are frosted. Had the 60 min oil massage for 198. The masseuse Axxxxx 24 yrs old said she had been working there for 3 months but it could have been 3 weeks because while her English was better than the average masseuse, it was like we were using sign language at times. Massage was ok, but she wasn't strong enough to get all the kinks out. With ten minutes left she asked whether I wanted he for 200. While not really in the mood as it was already past midnight, decided to go for it. Full roaming above the waist and only touching from the outside below the waist. I'd say 6/7 for attractiveness, 7 for personality and 5 for body as I like bigger tits. Next time I will try the place on dongfangdonglu, as I have not read anything about the place here.
Not sure. I was taking a short cut and noticed a large banner over the bar, "Ulan Bator Night Tonight", so pulled up, ran in and inquired. A manager confirmed that it was Ulan Bator night, a privately sponsored event that was "open to the public". The place is under new management so I didn't recognize the guy.
If you're interested I'll check into it next time I'm in the area and send you a pm. I've had good luck in that bar, but again, under previous management.
BTW, I wrote "Jen Hotel". The sign on the roof, (visible from 4th rr) reads "Hotel Jen".I have seen the Hotel Jen in passing by. Let me know if you get any more information on that bar. I always like finding new places. Send me a pm if you find anything.
OK, I know it is gone, but certainly not forgotten, at least not by me (see: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2693-2002-2006-North-China-Beijing&p=384608&viewfull=1#post384608; if that doesn't bring up my report, it is post 3082 dated 2005-09-03).
Anyway, headed back to Beijing in a week or so and want to try Chocolate. Can anyone provide any additional insight (aside from whether $100 gets it done or not). I had one great experience there and would like to try to duplicate.
Any 'rules of the road' particularly insight from old-timers experienced with Hollywood.
Best time to go? Might check out next Saturday night and if nothing turns up head over to Maggie's.
Thanks
Hi,
I am going to be in Beijing next week for a conference. I would like to know if any of you guys could recommend me some good MP.
From reading this forum, I think Maggie or chocolate are the best place to pick up girls for the evening. Do you guys know any good hotel I could stay at that isn't too far away.
I would definitely like to give some feedback to this forum before I leave.
This forum as been a great source of info.
Thank you in advance.
Hi,
I am going to be in Beijing next week for a conference. I would like to know if any of you guys could recommend me some good MP.
From reading this forum, I think Maggie or chocolate are the best place to pick up girls for the evening. Do you guys know any good hotel I could stay at that isn't too far away.
I would definitely like to give some feedback to this forum before I leave.
This forum as been a great source of info.
Thank you in advance.Crowne Plaza you Town is about 3 blocks fro0 m Chocolat and very near Maggies. Great Hotel and girl friendly. I will be there Friday and Saturday night.
OK, I know it is gone, but certainly not forgotten, at least not by me (see: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2693-2002-2006-North-China-Beijing&p=384608&viewfull=1#post384608; if that doesn't bring up my report, it is post 3082 dated 2005-09-03).
Anyway, headed back to Beijing in a week or so and want to try Chocolate. Can anyone provide any additional insight (aside from whether $100 gets it done or not). I had one great experience there and would like to try to duplicate.
Any 'rules of the road' particularly insight from old-timers experienced with Hollywood.
Best time to go? Might check out next Saturday night and if nothing turns up head over to Maggie's.
ThanksNo $100 will not get it done at Maggies or Chocolat. (For 99% of the guys Billy) I haven't taken out from Chocolate lately but I have from Maggies. Had several great ones from Maggies for 1000 RMB short time (2 to 3 hours) and anywhere from 1200 rmb to 2000 RMB for long time. (overnight to 24 hours) Mostly can get easily for 1500 LT. I don't pay over 1500 but have tipped to 2000 a few times for exceptional time. I will be there Friday and Saturday night.
No $100 will not get it done at Maggies or Chocolat. (For 99% of the guys Billy) I haven't taken out from Chocolate lately but I have from Maggies. Had several great ones from Maggies for 1000 RMB short time (2 to 3 hours) and anywhere from 1200 rmb to 2000 RMB for long time. (overnight to 24 hours) Mostly can get easily for 1500 LT. I don't pay over 1500 but have tipped to 2000 a few times for exceptional time. I will be there Friday and Saturday night.Was in Beijing couple of weeks ago and I concur. I paid 1200 RMB for 2 hours. But I was there for only 1 night and was a little desperate.
On the positive side, I had a very fun time.
No $100 will not get it done at Maggies or Chocolat. (For 99% of the guys Billy) I haven't taken out from Chocolate lately but I have from Maggies. Had several great ones from Maggies for 1000 RMB short time (2 to 3 hours) and anywhere from 1200 rmb to 2000 RMB for long time. (overnight to 24 hours) Mostly can get easily for 1500 LT. I don't pay over 1500 but have tipped to 2000 a few times for exceptional time. I will be there Friday and Saturday night.Maybe I should have been clearer, although I'm not sure how I could have been.
Not looking for a discussion on pricing.
Am looking for a discussion on Russians at Chocolate.
TIA
Was in Beijing couple of weeks ago and I concur. I paid 1200 RMB for 2 hours. But I was there for only 1 night and was a little desperate.
On the positive side, I had a very fun time.I was at Chocolate last night between 11:30 and 12:30. Several Russians there but only a few were to my liking. I talked to 2 of the better looking girls and both started at 2000 for 1 time and 5000 LT. I only bargained on ST and one came down to 1500 rmb for 1 time. It was early so I don't know if later they might go a little lower but 1 of the girls said standard price was 2000ST and up to 5000 LT. I think if you are looking for ST the best you will get is around 1500 RMB with the Russian girls. There were a couple of Russian girls that were real rough. Maybe they are cheaper but who would take them.
Went to Maggies after that and it was busy but only a few girls that got my attention. I was tired after a long day so wasn't very really looking to pick up anything. Band was great though. One of the better bands in awhile. Saw something different though.
1. Cute little spinner Philippine not sure if she was working or just there with friends.
2. Cross dresser. He was gross! Dancing with 2 Maggie girls.
FreebieFan
08-02-15, 10:01
Ok so I normally live and play in the "freebie" world and don't post much here. Recently was contacted on a website by a young girl, aged 21 who lives in a neighbouring town. We got to chatting and she explained she has a long term BF, but likes to find men for sex. Well that seemed to be the kind of chat I could take part in. I'm sure there are a few mongers here who have partaken of her as she seemeed to have a few stories about guys ld and young (and she preferred the older men so she said! We met and she's slim and trim and we went to a home Inn type place. Normal first round with a little spanking and a bit of biting, nothing too unusual. We rested, then she requested if I could bite her harder, specially her tits. Which was duly done. Now having a little experience I know some girsl like their nipples bitten, some like them bitten hard, . In this case I was worried I was going to bite the whole thing off. But still she wanted HARDER HARDER. Ok honey. And then, she puts my hands on her neck and says squeeze please. And she again says HARDER HARDER. Now I'm a normal guy and will happily respond to most girls requests but the harder I put my hands around her neck, the more she smiled. And the more she wanted. Was a strange scenario to say the least. I was wondering what might happen if I squeezed too hard. !. anyways session ended fine with her still breathing and strangely no marks around her neck. But lots of bite marks elsewhere on her quite nice body. You just never know what your going to get when you chat with these darlings from websites.
Ragnarok42
08-04-15, 11:21
Ok so I normally live and play in the "freebie" world and don't post much here. Recently was contacted on a website by a young girl, aged 21 who lives in a neighbouring town. We got to chatting and she explained she has a long term BF, but likes to find men for sex. Well that seemed to be the kind of chat I could take part in. I'm sure there are a few mongers here who have partaken of her as she seemeed to have a few stories about guys ld and young (and she preferred the older men so she said! We met and she's slim and trim and we went to a home Inn type place. Normal first round with a little spanking and a bit of biting, nothing too unusual. We rested, then she requested if I could bite her harder, specially her tits. Which was duly done. Now having a little experience I know some girsl like their nipples bitten, some like them bitten hard, . In this case I was worried I was going to bite the whole thing off. But still she wanted HARDER HARDER. Ok honey. And then, she puts my hands on her neck and says squeeze please. And she again says HARDER HARDER. Now I'm a normal guy and will happily respond to most girls requests but the harder I put my hands around her neck, the more she smiled. And the more she wanted. Was a strange scenario to say the least. I was wondering what might happen if I squeezed too hard. !. anyways session ended fine with her still breathing and strangely no marks around her neck. But lots of bite marks elsewhere on her quite nice body. You just never know what your going to get when you chat with these darlings from websites.Definately rare to find a girl into that in Asia, I cannot get myself to bite them hard so for me it's kinda a turn off. Been having mind blowing sex with my freebie recently so don't need to go out, just like you my friend. But the f*ed up part is that the last few times I called for some P4 P I had a rather odd habit of being. Not totally at attention. With my freebie it's so hard a cat could use it as a scratching post, but with these girls it like I cannot get into it. WTF, maybe it's because I don't like using condoms anymore, you have similar experiences my freebie loving brother?
Coming back from one week in Beijing and enough of free time, I'm disappointed. In any meaning of the word.
Most of the hotspots I frequented between 2007-2013 don't exist anymore. Mongering in Beijing is not what it was in old days. And old days are not centuries ago.
We had dinner with some old friends (Chinese, Austrian, etc,) that all lived in Beijing since 1995. We were recollecting about girls, services, mongering in China before February. It became another world since them.
We concluded that we never see China again as it was then. Maybe we will see some economical downturn, but even that will not bring back old days.
You can see that also in this forum. Seems that all Information, content, stories, how to's are already posted, There isn't not much valuable information to share anymore. I don't know what I should write, because I don't want to express my frustation again. It will never be the same as it was.
Sorry for that.
Whomer.
FreebieFan
08-05-15, 01:43
Definately rare to find a girl into that in Asia, I cannot get myself to bite them hard so for me it's kinda a turn off. Been having mind blowing sex with my freebie recently so don't need to go out, just like you my friend. But the f*ed up part is that the last few times I called for some P4 P I had a rather odd habit of being. Not totally at attention. With my freebie it's so hard a cat could use it as a scratching post, but with these girls it like I cannot get into it. WTF, maybe it's because I don't like using condoms anymore, you have similar experiences my freebie loving brother?Without wishing to distract from the board members who may or may not want to know about the quality of our erections, I would say my experience is about the same.
Ragnarok42
08-06-15, 06:29
Without wishing to distract from the board members who may or may not want to know about the quality of our erections, I would say my experience is about the same.At the risk of making all the other brothers lose their hard-ONS, thank you my friend. Good to know that even God has a weakness or two.
Cheers.
I took a friend for shopping yesterday in a market next to Subway line 15 Liudaokou station. I got really board and told her I am going to wait for her in a coffee shop. I saw a MP sign across the street and decided to check it out. The name of the building is 艺28023;22823;21414; and the MP is located of the 3rd or 4th floor. I come in and a mid aged woman takes me to a nice little room and tells me to wait. After 3 min a really sexy girl in a very sexy dress walks in and shows me the menu. 498 or 398 for special SPA. I managed to get her sown to 298 but than thought paying 300 for a HJ is too much. She didn't agree to do it for 200.
I was wondering where are all the MP you guys mention in this forum that charge around 200 for he massage.
Recently I was not always in Beijing, but during the last months, I had experienced Ana from Sophie and Xiao Ya from Kitty. And I am glad to share my experience with you guys.
Ana was recommended by Sophie and she is very beautiful and has a very international face, I mean, really looks like an European, but don't know why. She is very professional with all the services that are included in the massage you order. So, I also would like to recommend her.
About Kitty, Xiao Ya is the third girl that I enjoyed from Kitty. This girl is quite talkative, with good shape and I would like to highlight her skill for BBBJ, more than amazing.
But the point here I want to emphasize is the organization of Kitty. During the last months with two girls from Kitty, I feed her back some expectations and preference of me for the girls, then now Kitty starts to be able to recommend the girl that matches my taste very much. So, I recommend you to tell Kitty your preference, not only for the body and sex, but also for the background and character, she will send the right girl to you. So, now I am looking forward to the next one.
Enjoy, guys!
Eric
Recently I was not always in Beijing, but during the last months, I had experienced Ana from Sophie and Xiao Ya from Kitty. And I am glad to share my experience with you guys.
Ana was recommended by Sophie and she is very beautiful and has a very international face, I mean, really looks like an European, but don't know why. She is very professional with all the services that are included in the massage you order. So, I also would like to recommend her.
About Kitty, Xiao Ya is the third girl that I enjoyed from Kitty. This girl is quite talkative, with good shape and I would like to highlight her skill for BBBJ, more than amazing.
But the point here I want to emphasize is the organization of Kitty. During the last months with two girls from Kitty, I feed her back some expectations and preference of me for the girls, then now Kitty starts to be able to recommend the girl that matches my taste very much. So, I recommend you to tell Kitty your preference, not only for the body and sex, but also for the background and character, she will send the right girl to you. So, now I am looking forward to the next one.
Enjoy, guys!
EricHere is another fake ad.
Recently I was not always in Beijing, but during the last months, I had experienced Ana from Sophie and Xiao Ya from Kitty. And I am glad to share my experience with you guys.
Ana was recommended by Sophie and she is very beautiful and has a very international face, I mean, really looks like an European, but don't know why. She is very professional with all the services that are included in the massage you order. So, I also would like to recommend her.
About Kitty, Xiao Ya is the third girl that I enjoyed from Kitty. This girl is quite talkative, with good shape and I would like to highlight her skill for BBBJ, more than amazing.
But the point here I want to emphasize is the organization of Kitty. During the last months with two girls from Kitty, I feed her back some expectations and preference of me for the girls, then now Kitty starts to be able to recommend the girl that matches my taste very much. So, I recommend you to tell Kitty your preference, not only for the body and sex, but also for the background and character, she will send the right girl to you. So, now I am looking forward to the next one.
Enjoy, guys!
EricThanks for sharing your experiences, guy. Hope to see more.
Here is another fake ad.I think you must have very bad experience with Kitty but please do not accuse any good reviews on Kitty's service of fake ones. Anybody who shares his experiences will be welcomed here so long as they're real and honest. Of course, if you have enough evidence to support your judgement, please show us. For me, Kitty is an excellent provider. I've had dozens of ladies from Kitty since many years back. Most of them actually are very good. A few, of course, are not so good.
Just my two cents.
ChinBro.
Wanted to share the wonderful experience that I had with Grace during my trip to Beijing recently. Wanted to meet her a few months ago during my previous trip but wasn't possible was she was in her hometown. This time I was lucky enough.
I arranged for her to meet me at my hotel room around 6:00 pm. She made is on time and the moment we were in the room, she was an absolutely gem. It was almost like we knew each other for ages. Most import ant. She spoke very decent English. Made things really good. She is average height, B size cups (a bit of a letdown as I prefer a bit of a bosom), really cute bubble butt.
We started in the tub, she gave me one of the best BBBJs, I've had for a while. Deep Throat and all. Then we showered and made sweet love. We had ordered some beer and food. Relaxed for a bit and, she was cuddling all through, stoking me and keeping me warm.
After an hour or so we were at it again, lasted for another half an hour as this was the second round and the beers were slowing me down. Tried many positions and she was totally open to everything (didn't ask for anal so don't now if she likes that) . We were done and relaxed for a while after that. Kept chatting about her family, hometown etc. - Best part was no sob stories, which you get with most working girls.
I asked her if she was okay to meet me a couple of days later. She readily agreed. In fact she even accompanied me for my shopping expedition. Just like a girlfriend but even better as she had no expectations. Of course we came back to the hotel that evening and made out.
2 days of bliss. She isn't a clock watcher and a complete GFE experience.
Already looking forward to my next trip to Beijing. Hopefully it will be soon. Can't wait.
Huge thank you Gregoryb for your reference! I owe you one. Hope we can catch up in Beijing at some point.
Jude Bright
08-11-15, 23:22
Wanted to share the wonderful experience that I had with Grace during my trip to Beijing recently. Wanted to meet her a few months ago during my previous trip but wasn't possible was she was in her hometown. This time I was lucky enough.
Huge thank you Gregoryb for your reference! I owe you one. Hope we can catch up in Beijing at some point.What is the damage?
Thanks.
JB.
What is the damage?
Thanks.
JB.1300 RMB. Totally worth it.
Vera Petrova
08-12-15, 09:17
Good recommendation, Simba. I'm heading to Beijing in early September for a business meeting. I'm also very interested in enjoying a great session with Grace in my hotel. So could you please share with me her contact via private message? Thanks a lot.
VP.
Wanted to share the wonderful experience that I had with Grace during my trip to Beijing recently. Wanted to meet her a few months ago during my previous trip but wasn't possible was she was in her hometown. This time I was lucky enough.
I arranged for her to meet me at my hotel room around 6:00 pm. She made is on time and the moment we were in the room, she was an absolutely gem. It was almost like we knew each other for ages. Most import ant. She spoke very decent English. Made things really good. She is average height, B size cups (a bit of a letdown as I prefer a bit of a bosom), really cute bubble butt.
We started in the tub, she gave me one of the best BBBJs, I've had for a while. Deep Throat and all. Then we showered and made sweet love. We had ordered some beer and food. Relaxed for a bit and, she was cuddling all through, stoking me and keeping me warm.
After an hour or so we were at it again, lasted for another half an hour as this was the second round and the beers were slowing me down. Tried many positions and she was totally open to everything (didn't ask for anal so don't now if she likes that) . We were done and relaxed for a while after that. Kept chatting about her family, hometown etc. - Best part was no sob stories, which you get with most working girls.
I asked her if she was okay to meet me a couple of days later. She readily agreed. In fact she even accompanied me for my shopping expedition. Just like a girlfriend but even better as she had no expectations. Of course we came back to the hotel that evening and made out.
2 days of bliss. She isn't a clock watcher and a complete GFE experience.
Already looking forward to my next trip to Beijing. Hopefully it will be soon. Can't wait.
Huge thank you Gregoryb for your reference! I owe you one. Hope we can catch up in Beijing at some point.
Vera Petrova
08-15-15, 16:43
Anyone kindly shares with me Grace's contact info? Thanks in advance. Had sent a private message to Simba but he hasn't responded yet.
VP.
Wanted to share the wonderful experience that I had with Grace during my trip to Beijing recently. Wanted to meet her a few months ago during my previous trip but wasn't possible was she was in her hometown. This time I was lucky enough.
I arranged for her to meet me at my hotel room around 6:00 pm. She made is on time and the moment we were in the room, she was an absolutely gem. It was almost like we knew each other for ages. Most import ant. She spoke very decent English. Made things really good. She is average height, B size cups (a bit of a letdown as I prefer a bit of a bosom), really cute bubble butt.
We started in the tub, she gave me one of the best BBBJs, I've had for a while. Deep Throat and all. Then we showered and made sweet love. We had ordered some beer and food. Relaxed for a bit and, she was cuddling all through, stoking me and keeping me warm.
After an hour or so we were at it again, lasted for another half an hour as this was the second round and the beers were slowing me down. Tried many positions and she was totally open to everything (didn't ask for anal so don't now if she likes that) . We were done and relaxed for a while after that. Kept chatting about her family, hometown etc. - Best part was no sob stories, which you get with most working girls.
I asked her if she was okay to meet me a couple of days later. She readily agreed. In fact she even accompanied me for my shopping expedition. Just like a girlfriend but even better as she had no expectations. Of course we came back to the hotel that evening and made out.
2 days of bliss. She isn't a clock watcher and a complete GFE experience.
Already looking forward to my next trip to Beijing. Hopefully it will be soon. Can't wait.
Huge thank you Gregoryb for your reference! I owe you one. Hope we can catch up in Beijing at some point.
On the corner is a MP, 188 for oil massage and 268 for Korean massage. Was only looking for a strong massage, got #19 who is half Thai / Chinese in her late 20's. Very bubbly personality and gives a mean massage, 8/10. I first thought she was Filipino as definitely not Chinese looking. Never made a move as I wanted to enjoy the company and get a massage. Rooms are private but not sure if any have a shower. She wiped me down very nicely.
On the corner is a MP, 188 for oil massage and 268 for Korean massage. Was only looking for a strong massage, got #19 who is half Thai / Chinese in her late 20's. Very bubbly personality and gives a mean massage, 8/10. I first thought she was Filipino as definitely not Chinese looking. Never made a move as I wanted to enjoy the company and get a massage. Rooms are private but not sure if any have a shower. She wiped me down very nicely.A few questions:
1. "Never made a move" - What move do you usually do?
2. Not sure about showers? What do you do after an oil massage?
3. Did you get HJ or not? Was it included in the 188?
4. its Jiangtaixilu and Fangyuannan. What is the MP name?
Thanks!
Fifty Shades
08-18-15, 12:31
I usually check out Maggies once or twice a year or so, and made a visit last week. The overall quality has been trending down over the years, but I was usually able to find an acceptable "date" if I hung around late enough. This time I stayed past 1 am, and nearly all the girls were in the "formerly cute", expired shelf life category. The very few exceptions were immediately taken. High M: F ratio. Eventually found a northern sister who was passable, and gave a reasonable BBBJ back at the hotel, but she practically rushed out after the deed. Sad trend.
1. "Never made a move" - What move do you usually do?
I MIGHT BRUSH A LEG.
2. Not sure about showers? What do you do after an oil massage?
LIKE I SAID, SOME PLACES WIPE YOU DOWN VERY GOOD WITH HOT WATER AND A TOWEL.
3. Did you get HJ or not? Was it included in the 188?
NOOE.
4. its Jiangtaixilu and Fangyuannan. What is the MP name?
NO IDEA, BUT ITS ON THE CORNER SO YOU can't MISS IT.
RolandOrzabal
08-20-15, 15:38
I've been lurking these boards for a while and been trying a few things out based on what I've read.
First foray was with one of Kitty's girls. This was around CNY, so a while ago. Asked for the model quality, 2000 RMB for 2 hours with the option to send her home after just one hour. Can't remember specifically what I requested, but I definitely said slim, BBBJ and GFE. She sent Judy, who I would not recommend. I was disappointed as soon as I opened the door, she was decent looking but wasn't stunning. In retrospect, I should've started with the girl-next-door-type so I knew what to expect when I booked "model"-quality. I also should've sent her away and asked Kitty to send another one, but hindsight is 20/20.
To Kitty's credit, Judy was indeed slim and no qualms with DFK, BBBJ or changing positions. Service itself was just like her looks: not bad, but nothing to write home about. BBBJ was super mechanical. The whole thing was pretty 'meh'. Finished one shot in mish, cancelled the second hour and sent her on her way. Kitty asked how it went over WeChat later and apologized that I was disappointed, promised to do better next time. Haven't hit her up since then, but I'm not against it.
Started going to MPs after that. Went to that six-story building a couple times. First time, wasn't offered any extras, just given a massage. Second time, the girl asked if I wanted a massage "down there" after she flipped me. After a little haggling, settled for 400 RMB for massage + HJ. Very cute girl, didn't mind my hands roaming but kept her clothes on and kept an eye on the door. Asked for FS, she said it wasn't possible. Did seem open to a BJ but we couldn't settle on a price. Read on here that building is closed now; haven't verified myself. Also went to a giant ritzy MP and got massaged by a dude, and a shitty tiny MP in an apartment where the girl didn't even close the door, much less offer extras.
Recently I've been going to a MP near The Place, run by Nina.
Saw some posts recommending Nina's HEs but said it was closing down. It didn't close. I can confirm that it's still open, just went last week for my fourth visit. I can also confirm that Nina gives unbelievable HJs. She's older, I'd guess in her 40's? Not very attractive, I wouldn't call her a MILF. But god damn does she give a great HJ. I had a hard time understanding how a HJ can be great until Nina. There's like all these different positions plus she's tireless, enthusiastic and really seems like she's having a good time. She'll stick a finger in your ass (without asking) if you're into that. At one point she was on top of me and riding me. With the backside of her knee. I fucked her knee! Oh and she gives a mean massage as well. I've gotten two massages from her, and I really recommend everyone try it once. It's 200 RMB on top of whatever massage you got, the cheapest is the traditional Chinese massage for 200 RMB making it 400 RMB total. Somebody wrote they got her down to 100 RMB on top, but I was unsuccessful with that.
The place also offers FS with the other girls there for 800 RMB total, massage + CBJ + FS. The first time I had this tiny girl, 20 years old. She was cute, but her tiny little hands didn't lead to a very good massage. The extras weren't great either. I've never enjoyed CBJ, this was no different. No GFE / DFK, and she tried to rush the sex, but I despite all of that I did enjoy myself. The second time was with a 25-year-old girl, Liu Wang. She was pretty and a little thicker than most Chinese girls, nice and busty. Fantastic massage, best massage I've ever had. Great sex too, very passionate. Total GFE, tons of DFK and it seemed like she was enjoying it just as much as I was, which made everything way better. Definitely would recommend her. She said she doesn't work there full-time though, so not sure how often she's there.
Nina's place is pretty small, just two rooms (one with three massage tables, one private room) and no shower, but has a good atmosphere.
This is something you don't see too often on this board; a credible SW report! And so cost-effective! LOL.
I haven't been in awhile, but several blocks east of E 3rd ring on Yaojiayuan has been a notorious streetwalking zone for years. Before the Olympics you could count literally dozens, some quite attractive, others less. The most likely areas are the blocks immediately north and south of the first intersection (that is, the first light east of 3rd ring). There'll be ladies loitering on the benches in the shadows after sunset. The price was always 100,150 incl BJ. I can attest that there was still action a few months ago.
QUOTE=Charlie Shine;1744795]After a few pints at the Irish V decided to head home. I'd been sitting on my fat arse all day so decided to leg it as I live in Wangjing xi and it's not too far away. I hit Wangjing xi Lu and near the corner of a dark little street I spied a tall woman with a handy figure looking like she was on the make. She saw me, made a whistle sound in that oh-so subtle way, and gave me her best come hither look. I asked how much and she held up one finger. As my ex wife would say, "At these prices why not.I think this area is close to Tuanjehu subway station, right?
This is something you don't see too often on this board; a credible SW report! And so cost-effective! LOL.
I haven't been in awhile, but several blocks east of E 3rd ring on Yaojiayuan has been a notorious streetwalking zone for years. Before the Olympics you could count literally dozens, some quite attractive, others less. The most likely areas are the blocks immediately north and south of the first intersection (that is, the first light east of 3rd ring). There'll be ladies loitering on the benches in the shadows after sunset. The price was always 100,150 incl BJ. I can attest that there was still action a few months ago.QUOTE=Charlie Shine;1744795]After a few pints at the Irish V decided to head home. I'd been sitting on my fat arse all day so decided to leg it as I live in Wangjing xi and it's not too far away. I hit Wangjing xi Lu and near the corner of a dark little street I spied a tall woman with a handy figure looking like she was on the make. She saw me, made a whistle sound in that oh-so subtle way, and gave me her best come hither look. I asked how much and she held up one finger. As my ex wife would say, "At these prices why not.I think this area is close to Tuanjehu subway station, right?
I think this area is close to Tuanjehu subway station, right?Based on the map, yes appears to be. I will be out there next week, anyone been lately? I will try to scout it out if I have time.
I rarely post on ISG, but I though I would this time. I read the forum for Beijing and found that things were "limited" (more on that), but at least there was the classified section. So with a bit of spare time I contacted BB186 and opted for the 700 RMB body 2 body massage.
The place was relatively easy to find on a map with a bit of searching, it was not far from a subway station. When I got there only a petite lovely named Tina was there. I showered and got on the bed. The massage was pretty good and did get the kinks out. When it switched to the b2 b part I really could appreciate Tina, especially when I flipped over. She was really hot. Truly a smoking bod. As she got rolling I asked about FS, but she said that was 1500, which is rather steep. But in short order I got what I had come for. She showered, then I did, and then I was out about 50 minutes after I arrived. All in all a positive experience, though no great deal price wise. Still, if I were here another week I'd probably make another appointment for the same, just to keep the blood flowing.
In general, my impression is that Beijing is kind of a desert. There are some mongering opportunities, but quite limited. Some, like 500 USD for 1 HR Russian outcalls, are just ridiculous. From things people have been posting, there seems to have been a crackdown last Feb that drove up prices and significantly reduced business. And getting info is not so easy. I have no idea if BP is reliable or not, but even there the pickings are slim for a city of 21 million. Two years ago I was in Shenzhen, and things were easy to find. I wandered into some small back streets near the train station, walked slowly looking around, and a older lady cam up to me and said "you want massage?" "What kind of massage?" I said. "Sex massage" she replied. Well, there was plenty of the former and none of the latter, after I followed her up to a nearby flat. There I got my pick of three and I had a fun 40 min with a real hottie (8/10) who was very wet and really into it. 400 RMB + 50 tip if I remember correctly. Don't know if that is the case now, either in availability or price. From reading the forum, such opportunities do not seem to exist here.
But if you compare Beijing with places like Hamburg, Madrid, Sao Paulo, Houston, Lima, Bangkok (OK, not fair), or even Singapore (where the scene has decayed somewhat in the past few years), it is really lacking. Madrid is a paradise by comparison, with erosguia and pictures that are pretty light on putashop giving a good representation of providers, and plenty of excellent offerings at the 100 euro level (or even less).
Does anybody here know about possible HIV / AIDS testing center in Beijing where applicants for testing don't have to be registered and can go through the whole process without telling the staff their personal details? I've heard such place doesn't exist in China but I'd give it one more shot and ask more experienced fellows in here.
I have only been to WJ for Korean BBQ so I decided last night to take a late drive. I remember some comments about the 300/400 buildings, but wanted to see what was around the Fairmont. It didn't help that it was already 1 am, but found a place that has its building number as part of the name of the establishment if you search for massage places with the iPhone map near the F. Its on the first floor but you need to come in from the left side looking at the front door of the building. You must wonder why I am bothering to post this. Read on. I go in, ask for an oil massage and the guy gets me a late 20 early 30 lady with a nice rack. 10 min legit massage, 5 min tickling and 5 min HJ. No extras, but she let me lift her shirt and play with her nipples while she stroked me. 20 min later, I shoot, hand over 200 and she gives me 2 back with a thank you. Absolutely no expectation of a tip.
1. "Never made a move" - What move do you usually do?
I MIGHT BRUSH A LEG.
2. Not sure about showers? What do you do after an oil massage?
LIKE I SAID, SOME PLACES WIPE YOU DOWN VERY GOOD WITH HOT WATER AND A TOWEL.
3. Did you get HJ or not? Was it included in the 188?
NOOE.
4. its Jiangtaixilu and Fangyuannan. What is the MP name?
NO IDEA, BUT ITS ON THE CORNER SO YOU can't MISS IT.Do you think HJ at this place was available?
FreebieFan
08-25-15, 07:59
Does anybody here know about possible HIV / AIDS testing center in Beijing where applicants for testing don't have to be registered and can go through the whole process without telling the staff their personal details? I've heard such place doesn't exist in China but I'd give it one more shot and ask more experienced fellows in here.It would be good if you did find such a place but with the endless paranoia about peoples identification here its highly likely that no such place exists.
Outside some Singapore bars they have a 30 minute check with no questions. BKK has the same. Not quite so enlightened here.
Few years back I needed one in HK. They had nearly the same paranoia so hopped on a plane to Taiwan where I knew there was no such problem.
Erasmus B Dragin
08-26-15, 00:39
Home tests for HIV have been on the market for over 3 yrs. Both imported and domestically produced versions are available in China (OraQuick, OraWell, VondFo, Union, etc).
These tests are comparable to professionally administered tests for false positives, though there is a slightly higher rick of a false negative with home tests. This can be mitigated somewhat by taking the test twice.
Home tests are antibody-based, and antibodies may not show up in your system until 1-3 months after exposure, while the newest (4th generation) HIV lab tests identify not only antibodies but also antigens. Antigens usually show up 2-4 weeks after exposure, so are typically able to identify HIV infection weeks earlier than home tests.
If the cause of your lost sleep is a bar girl you met in AC or Snooky a few months ago, do a home test (twice).
It would be good if you did find such a place but with the endless paranoia about peoples identification here its highly likely that no such place exists.
Outside some Singapore bars they have a 30 minute check with no questions. BKK has the same. Not quite so enlightened here.
Few years back I needed one in HK. They had nearly the same paranoia so hopped on a plane to Taiwan where I knew there was no such problem.F.
Recently I've been going to a MP near The Place, run by Nina.
Saw some posts recommending Nina's HEs but said it was closing down. It didn't close. I can confirm that it's still open, just went last week for my fourth visit. I can also confirm that Nina gives unbelievable HJs. She's older, I'd guess in her 40's? Not very attractive, I wouldn't call her a MILF. But god damn does she give a great HJ. I had a hard time understanding how a HJ can be great until Nina. There's like all these different positions plus she's tireless, enthusiastic and really seems like she's having a good time. She'll stick a finger in your ass (without asking) if you're into that. At one point she was on top of me and riding me. With the backside of her knee. I fucked her knee! Oh and she gives a mean massage as well. I've gotten two massages from her, and I really recommend everyone try it once. It's 200 RMB on top of whatever massage you got, the cheapest is the traditional Chinese massage for 200 RMB making it 400 RMB total. Somebody wrote they got her down to 100 RMB on top, but I was unsuccessful with that.
The place also offers FS with the other girls there for 800 RMB total, massage + CBJ + FS. The first time I had this tiny girl, 20 years old. She was cute, but her tiny little hands didn't lead to a very good massage. The extras weren't great either. I've never enjoyed CBJ, this was no different. No GFE / DFK, and she tried to rush the sex, but I despite all of that I did enjoy myself. The second time was with a 25-year-old girl, Liu Wang. She was pretty and a little thicker than most Chinese girls, nice and busty. Fantastic massage, best massage I've ever had. Great sex too, very passionate. Total GFE, tons of DFK and it seemed like she was enjoying it just as much as I was, which made everything way better. Definitely would recommend her. She said she doesn't work there full-time though, so not sure how often she's there.
Nina's place is pretty small, just two rooms (one with three massage tables, one private room) and no shower, but has a good atmosphere.She is old and ugly but gives you the best HJ ever! Just like in the movies!
Thanks for letting us know. Just to confirm, her old place was in CP, so while you note near The Place, you means it's still in CP.
Recently I've been going to a MP near The Place, run by Nina.
Do you think HJ at this place was available?I'm a believer that any place can be one, but you need to build a relationship with the lady if it isn't that sort of establishment.
I'm a believer that any place can be one, but you need to build a relationship with the lady if it isn't that sort of establishment.Is Bldg. 411 the only MP in WJ where I can get proper service during first visit? If not, please name couple others.
RolandOrzabal
08-29-15, 12:50
Thanks for letting us know. Just to confirm, her old place was in CP, so while you note near The Place, you means it's still in CP.Yeah, still next to Jenny Lou's.
Much has been written recently about the incredible massages and hand jobs of Nina at Wonderful Massage in Central Park, directly across from the place. Nina has been promoted to the manager of this establishment, and it has changed for the better. It has become a little more difficult to convince Nina to rub you the right way, since she pushes the other girls in her stable, but she still will. She has recruited some interesting girls. One used to work at the Peninsula Hotel with Nina. She has the perfect breasts and amazing BBBJ, something Nina doesn't do. Another is the kind of Chinese skank I can't take my eyes off when I see her in the bars. Tall, with four inch heels, dressed in the shortest skirt available and easily accessible lingerie, she even has a tramp stamp. Face a 5, body an 8, although less perfect and smaller breasts. Her massage is mediocre, but she allowed easy access. I thought my finger might get bruised when I inserted it, she was that tight. Then she left the room and returned wearing a pink lab coat like a someone working in a beauty shop. Totally unsexy, but in moments she had it off and had me inside her. I was like a teenager again, shot my wad in 10 seconds. Probably because she was so incredibly tight. Not sure why she has to change, but it seems her routine. I would have preferred to do her with the lingerie on. Damage for FS is now 1200, vs 600 for the world class HJ from Nina.
Hi to all,
Any opportunities to find somewhere in BJ some nice black girls? Places, websites.
Thanks
If you become a regular, you will get a much better rate for both services. And I mean several hundred rmb. But thanks for the report.
Much has been written recently about the incredible massages and hand jobs of Nina at Wonderful Massage in Central Park, directly across from the place. Nina has been promoted to the manager of this establishment, and it has changed for the better. It has become a little more difficult to convince Nina to rub you the right way, since she pushes the other girls in her stable, but she still will. She has recruited some interesting girls. One used to work at the Peninsula Hotel with Nina. She has the perfect breasts and amazing BBBJ, something Nina doesn't do. Another is the kind of Chinese skank I can't take my eyes off when I see her in the bars. Tall, with four inch heels, dressed in the shortest skirt available and easily accessible lingerie, she even has a tramp stamp. Face a 5, body an 8, although less perfect and smaller breasts. Her massage is mediocre, but she allowed easy access. I thought my finger might get bruised when I inserted it, she was that tight. Then she left the room and returned wearing a pink lab coat like a someone working in a beauty shop. Totally unsexy, but in moments she had it off and had me inside her. I was like a teenager again, shot my wad in 10 seconds. Probably because she was so incredibly tight. Not sure why she has to change, but it seems her routine. I would have preferred to do her with the lingerie on. Damage for FS is now 1200, vs 600 for the world class HJ from Nina.
I'm going to Beijing and it appears that I need to see Grace, could someone kindly PM me her contact details.
Thanks,
JP
Much has been written recently about the incredible massages and hand jobs of Nina at Wonderful Massage in Central Park, directly across from the place. Nina has been promoted to the manager of this establishment, and it has changed for the better. It has become a little more difficult to convince Nina to rub you the right way, since she pushes the other girls in her stable, but she still will. She has recruited some interesting girls. One used to work at the Peninsula Hotel with Nina. She has the perfect breasts and amazing BBBJ, something Nina doesn't do. Another is the kind of Chinese skank I can't take my eyes off when I see her in the bars. Tall, with four inch heels, dressed in the shortest skirt available and easily accessible lingerie, she even has a tramp stamp. Face a 5, body an 8, although less perfect and smaller breasts. Her massage is mediocre, but she allowed easy access. I thought my finger might get bruised when I inserted it, she was that tight. Then she left the room and returned wearing a pink lab coat like a someone working in a beauty shop. Totally unsexy, but in moments she had it off and had me inside her. I was like a teenager again, shot my wad in 10 seconds. Probably because she was so incredibly tight. Not sure why she has to change, but it seems her routine. I would have preferred to do her with the lingerie on. Damage for FS is now 1200, vs 600 for the world class HJ from Nina.Nina is great, she will make you happy, but 600? I am guessing you are trying to help her with her business, but this forum is here to help each other out not to try and cheat people. A he session with Nina should cost 200, not one yuan more.
FreebieFan
09-18-15, 08:15
Hi to all,
Any opportunities to find somewhere in BJ some nice black girls? Places, websites.
ThanksWeve had quite a few discussions about this over the past year, read the forum and theres info on it.
Theres the tired old Den, that sometimes has some tired old black ladies, a few of the clubs have them too.
Salsa is popular with a few but Salsa is only busy late on Friday and Saturday nights.
Xue can have, so can Migas. But theres no one specific place.
I got tired of chinese girls going through my phone and pc, checking on where I am at 1 am etc so I took the "black " road..
There are many many studying here and my main squeeze from Central Africa is at a local university. Tall black slim and I'm having a ball.
And the "spare " from Cameroon is at another university. Black heaven!
RolandOrzabal
09-18-15, 18:56
Nina is great, she will make you happy, but 600? I am guessing you are trying to help her with her business, but this forum is here to help each other out not to try and cheat people. A he session with Nina should cost 200, not one yuan more.You pay 200 total for the massage + he at Nina's? That's a steal, considering the massage itself is legit. The lowest I've gotten is 400.
You pay 200 total for the massage + he at Nina's? That's a steal, considering the massage itself is legit. The lowest I've gotten is 400.I said he Session. No massage included.
Hi guys, occasionally a serendipity hits: I just got accross a very beautiful girl in my.
Business activity. She works in a company I on and off got in contact and on one occasion she amazingly.
Asked if I would have some foreigner friends she could meet.
Wow.
Well, I told her no problem If she had an email I would forward contacts I would get across. So in case you are adventourous:
Just let me know a short background from you and I will pass it on for her to get back to you.
Her English is perfect so to meet for a cup of coffee is easy and non committing but can be quite interesting.
I only come to Beijing on short business trips quite regularly though and am happy with my exisiting contacts. Haha,
And stay away from business contacts.
So if you are interested, just send PM.
Gregory.
Nina is great, she will make you happy, but 600? I am guessing you are trying to help her with her business, but this forum is here to help each other out not to try and cheat people. A he session with Nina should cost 200, not one yuan more.Yeah, this is a common thing on this board. People complaining about other people's prices. Just like all other businesses, there is bound to be spikes, and differences in pricing over time. If you have been going to someone for a year, of course, the Service provider isn't going to try too hard to jack the price up on you, but for someone who just walks in off the street, it doesn't mean that the same low price applies to the new person. Rent maybe went up. Maybe new manager, could be you are catching them during rush hour, certainly the risks from LE fluctuate monthly. And just because one person can't get it for the same price as you, doesn't mean they should be judged, or accused of working for the Service provider. When I first moved to China, paid my ayi's and drivers only 1. 5 k a month. Now. Entry level is 3 K just starting out to drive my crappy jeep around. You can't catch Uber for the same price 8. 30 AM, that you could at 7. 45 AM. Surge pricing. Your plane ticket home at Christmas isn't the same as in the middle of November, and someone like Nina shouldn't have her prices frozen in exchange for her labor / risk today now that she is popular, than she did when she was just starting out. I also don't want new posters on this thread to either A. Not post, because they feel like others will think they paid too much, or be. Lie about how much they paid, because that will just lead to crappy experiences for both punters, and the talent. I would rather have more people, sharing about more places, honestly. That a few people bragging making fewer posts, and only posting to brag about how cheap they can get it. I think, inflation, cost of living, has far more to do with pricing, than some punters coming in, and paying too much (which is another common theme on here. The "stop ruining it for the rest of us" theme) . End of rant.
ShangHangin
09-24-15, 08:41
Simple economics tells us that the person with the most power to set prices is the one who is most able to walk away from the deal. In the China P2 P market, there is asymmetric information. In fact the providers have more information that you do. They know what their last clients have paid and they will test to see if you will also pay a higher price that the last guy. Further, if you don't set the price up front, you lose your ability to walk away. Except with your pants around your ankles. ISG gives you the opportunity to get better pricing info so you can negotiate from a position of power. But be ready to walk away.
SH.
Yeah, this is a common thing on this board. People complaining about other people's prices. Just like all other businesses, there is bound to be spikes, and differences in pricing over time. If you have been going to someone for a year, of course, the Service provider isn't going to try too hard to jack the price up on you, but for someone who just walks in off the street, it doesn't mean that the same low price applies to the new person. Rent maybe went up. Maybe new manager, could be you are catching them during rush hour, certainly the risks from LE fluctuate monthly. And just because one person can't get it for the same price as you, doesn't mean they should be judged, or accused of working for the Service provider. When I first moved to China, paid my ayi's and drivers only 1. 5 k a month. Now. Entry level is 3 K just starting out to drive my crappy jeep around. You can't catch Uber for the same price 8. 30 AM, that you could at 7. 45 AM. Surge pricing. Your plane ticket home at Christmas isn't the same as in the middle of November, and someone like Nina shouldn't have her prices frozen in exchange for her labor / risk today now that she is popular, than she did when she was just starting out. I also don't want new posters on this thread to either A. Not post, because they feel like others will think they paid too much, or be. Lie about how much they paid, because that will just lead to crappy experiences for both punters, and the talent. I would rather have more people, sharing about more places, honestly. That a few people bragging making fewer posts, and only posting to brag about how cheap they can get it. I think, inflation, cost of living, has far more to do with pricing, than some punters coming in, and paying too much (which is another common theme on here. The "stop ruining it for the rest of us" theme) . End of rant.
RolandOrzabal
09-24-15, 17:46
I agree that we shouldn't be too harsh when talking about what other people have paid, especially the You are ruining it for the rest of us!" comments I see occasionally. But price discrepancies should still be pointed out, because the board should be all about providing as much information about locations and prices as possible.
RolandOrzabal
09-24-15, 18:42
I am happy to report that the BBS's in northern Beijing that EasilyPleased2 and others wrote about way back in May / June are still up and running. I finally checked out the area Wednesday evening. I arrived around 7:00 PM, not expecting to find much because it's Beijing, but lo and behold there's like 6-7 BBS's all within a stone's throw of each other. Talking classic BBS: pink lights, mamasans, and bored girls sitting around watching TV.
I get strangely nervous browsing BBS's. Peered into each one, mostly full of "meh"-looking women, but one had two good-looking young ladies so I walked in. Straight up business as soon I as entered. Mamasan gestured for one of the ladies to show me to the back; didn't have a preference in which one anyway. Entered the back, the girl locked the door behind us and asked if I wanted small something (didn't catch the word) or big something. I asked the difference and it seems like small is just "tuiyou" for 200 RMB and big is sex for 300 RMB. I didn't attempt to negotiate because 300 was the going rate other members reported back in May / June. Chose the sex package and was led upstairs.
Typical BBS experience: tiny room big enough for a bed and shoes, no shower, and as soon as the door closed she started getting undressed. She said CBJ was 100 RMB extra, no BBBJ / CIM, but whatever, I've never had a good BBS BJ. Sex was the average "good" BBS service: she got fully undressed, didn't rush me and was not a starfish. Whole thing lasted like 20 minutes, just wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am.
So if you're just looking for a bare bones, no-frills fuck for 300 RMB, the option still does exist in Beijing. It's not really my thing, but at that price, I may find my way up there again. Hell, I might even go again tomorrow.
I said he Session. No massage included.I look for a lot more in a session than a quickie tug. I want a rub too. And price matters little to me. I'd pay double / triple what I paid if I could get more value. And have.
YellowMan8
09-26-15, 04:40
Yep that's her, sh's a little goer isn't she?
Problem is, she's becoming Angels top girl, and sometimes turns up shagged to bits. Xiao Yang is definitely worth a look, really pretty and does a good job.
Likes to play with herself while you are doing her, she gives the impression that she is not just there for the money, enjoys sex.
However that is just an impression, I'm sure her demeanor would change if you didn't pay her.Not sure if it's the same DanDan 2 years later but I'm literally writing this post-coitus (sorry for TMI) and if it's the same one. Wow! I literally felt like she was my GF the whole session. Although it's a 1 HR /1 shot service for 700 RMB and she did rush off almost immediately after the 30 mins we were together, I think it's worth the money for sure.
She didn't speak any English at all but was friendly and smiley throughout (had a bit of a shyness to her that I liked).
Body was exactly how I preferred. Very skinny frame, slender legs and milky white skin. At one point I was scared I'd break her she was so small!
Didn't do any kinky stuff and throughout the session a lot DFE and stroking etc.
An old friend of mine is interested in getting back in the game. I can tell you this girl will blow your mind. Perfect English, great bubbly personality, and a demon in bed.
For sure she is the whole package.
She is pretty selective, so please message me if you want her contact. I can pass your details to her.
Don't let this one pass you by guys.
Not sure if it's the same DanDan 2 years later but I'm literally writing this post-coitus (sorry for TMI) and if it's the same one. Wow! I literally felt like she was my GF the whole session. Although it's a 1 HR /1 shot service for 700 RMB and she did rush off almost immediately after the 30 mins we were together, I think it's worth the money for sure.
She didn't speak any English at all but was friendly and smiley throughout (had a bit of a shyness to her that I liked).
Body was exactly how I preferred. Very skinny frame, slender legs and milky white skin. At one point I was scared I'd break her she was so small!
Didn't do any kinky stuff and throughout the session a lot DFE and stroking etc.Could be her although Angel told me she had a BF and wasn't working anymore, that was a while ago and things could have changed.
Jude Bright
09-28-15, 09:57
An old friend of mine is interested in getting back in the game. I can tell you this girl will blow your mind. Perfect English, great bubbly personality, and a demon in bed.
For sure she is the whole package.
She is pretty selective, so please message me if you want her contact. I can pass your details to her.
Don't let this one pass you by guys.H Brother:
I am in Beijing until Friday and please share her info with me.
Thanks a lot.
JB.
I said he Session. No massage included.Hey guys,
Mind PM'ing details of Nina's massage?
Cheers.
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Simple economics tells us that the person with the most power to set prices is the one who is most able to walk away from the deal. In the China P2 P market, there is asymmetric information. In fact the providers have more information that you do. They know what their last clients have paid and they will test to see if you will also pay a higher price that the last guy. Further, if you don't set the price up front, you lose your ability to walk away. Except with your pants around your ankles. ISG gives you the opportunity to get better pricing info so you can negotiate from a position of power. But be ready to walk away.
SH.Simple economics tells us that you get what you have paid for and you pay for what you would get. Plain and simple. If you google "massageinchina" "massage4 China", you would get much cheaper prices than the prices you would see when you google"escort4 China" and "escortinchina". We all know the reason: Better girls would charge us more.
I personally do not believe I could sleep with fanbingbing for 200 Yuan.
Fun thing is, its the same with marriage. Wives of doctors and rich businessmen are generally more beautiful. Nothing complicated about your walk away thing, with all due respect.
RolandOrzabal
10-07-15, 16:38
Anybody have any recommendations near WuDaoKou, or just the HaiDian district in general?
Arabia Felix
10-08-15, 13:12
My first time as a pimp so excuse the clumsiness.
She is one of my GFs from my time in Ghana. Actually she is a Liberian.
At the moment she is visiting Beijing as a guest of her brother and cousin.
Her long-term dream is to: a) get out of Ghana & b) be a global supermodel.
She stays in regular touch mainly to get me to send her cash.
Now she wants money in Beijing. So an opportunity for you to have some cheap naughty fun with a long-legged ebony beauty!
See my reports on the Ghana forum such as #3277.
PM me for her contact details.
Vera Petrova
10-10-15, 04:54
Finally got to Beijing as my business trip had been postponed. Booked Kitty's outcall service to my hotel room at 8:30 pm tonight for a 2 shots session with a next door type girl. Tomorrow I'm planning to try Grace, an independent outcall provider. Thanks so much, brother GregoryB. Let's see how it works.
VP.
In case you need some more variation you got my PM.
Gregory.
Finally got to Beijing as my business trip had been postponed. Booked Kitty's outcall service to my hotel room at 8:30 pm tonight for a 2 shots session with a next door type girl. Tomorrow I'm planning to try Grace, an independent outcall provider. Thanks so much, brother GregoryB. Let's see how it works.
VP.
Vera Petrova
10-10-15, 08:04
I will, thanks so much for your help, Gregory.
VP.
In case you need some more variation you got my PM.
Gregory.
Vera Petrova
10-10-15, 18:20
A quick report on Xiao Xiao from Kitty's. Later this afternoon had to rearrange the appointment from 8:30 pm to 10 pm because of a dinner in the evening. Kitty responded promptly through WeChat. My requirements were 18-20 years old, long hair, petite, smooth skin on the dark side, and very good GFE, not a time watcher. Xiao Xiao arrived slightly later than 10 pm, matching my requirements quite well at first glance when I picked her up at the main door of my hotel. Slightly above average looks but looked very young, around 5'4" in height. She smiled and hugged me eagerly when she saw me. It's a good feeling helping me be in the right mood. To be honest, it's a great 2 hours I spent with her, great GFE, great BBBJ, and great fun we had together. Anyway, thanks Kitty. Tomorrow I'm planning to have Grace. Let's see how it works. Again, thanks a lot for your help, Gregory.
VP.
Finally got to Beijing as my business trip had been postponed. Booked Kitty's outcall service to my hotel room at 8:30 pm tonight for a 2 shots session with a next door type girl. Tomorrow I'm planning to try Grace, an independent outcall provider. Thanks so much, brother GregoryB. Let's see how it works.
VP.
Her English is perfect so to meet for a cup of coffee is easy and non committing but can be quite interesting.
I only come to Beijing on short business trips quite regularly though and am happy with my exisiting contacts. Haha,
And stay away from business contacts.
So if you are interested, just send PM.
Gregory.Is this our mutual friend?
Did you ever meet her? If so how long ago?
In case you got some interesting contacts. PM is appreciated.
Gregory.
Is this our mutual friend?
Playboy2000
10-12-15, 09:41
I've been active in this forum for several years. I have a slow internet connection, and don't have a VPN, so it is very hard to get info here or on google. I've read about 7 pages of this Beijing info without finding the info I'm looking for.
Can someone please pm me sone escort sites in Beijing and also Kitty's phone number.
Thanks, PB2000.
Traveler1234
10-12-15, 16:41
I've been active in this forum for several years.
Can someone please pm me sone escort sites in Beijing and also Kitty's phone number.
Thanks, PB2000.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads
Vera Petrova
10-13-15, 05:01
Hi, PB2000, have sent you a private message containing Kitty's WeChat and phone number, and Grace's. I had both in the past few days, 2 shots session with one of Kitty's girl named Xiao Xiao, and overnight session with Grace, who is an independent girl. Both were very good, so I recommend them to you. But I'm planning to explore a bit more if I've got any chance. Chubbycat and Aimee stay on the menu during the next two days. Let's see how it works. Again, thanks so much for your help, Gregory.
VP.
I've been active in this forum for several years. I have a slow internet connection, and don't have a VPN, so it is very hard to get info here or on google. I've read about 7 pages of this Beijing info without finding the info I'm looking for.
Can someone please pm me sone escort sites in Beijing and also Kitty's phone number.
Thanks, PB2000.
Take care and let me know any good "experiences" about that Kitty girl: if you got time let me know how to.
Arrange meet someone from Kitty if you don't speak any Chinese. Please via PM, if names are involved.
Thanks, Gregory.
Hi, PB2000, have sent you a private message containing Kitty's WeChat and phone number, and Grace's. I had both in the past few days, 2 shots session with one of Kitty's girl named Xiao Xiao, and overnight session with Grace, who is an independent girl. Both were very good, so I recommend them to you. But I'm planning to explore a bit more if I've got any chance. Chubbycat and Aimee stay on the menu during the next two days. Let's see how it works. Again, thanks so much for your help, Gregory.
VP.
Vera Petrova
10-13-15, 08:05
Hi, Gregory, I'm very glad to share my experiences, good or bad, but I'm afraid I don't really see your point. Kitty speaks English well. So just send your requirements to Kitty via WeChat or WhatsApp and you'll get replied soon with availability or straightforward be told there's nobody who fits your requirements well.
Only had Xiao Xiao from Kitty in the past few days but I tried some couple of years ago. They were all very good. Honestly, I may try another one or two ladies from Kitty in the next two days but first I'll see the availability of Chubbycat, Aimee and Janice (I will have her WeChat ID soon, thank you, brother Paul178!). I'm planning to explore around a bit more anyway. Let's see how it works.
VP.
Take care and let me know any good "experiences" about that Kitty girl: if you got time let me know how to.
Arrange meet someone from Kitty if you don't speak any Chinese. Please via PM, if names are involved.
Thanks, Gregory.
My point is about the English of the girls. Ok, I will ask Kitty.
Another question who is Janice? Aimee I guess is from BNG?
Thanks and keep exchanging info's.
Grgory.
Hi, Gregory, I'm very glad to share my experiences, good or bad, but I'm afraid I don't really see your point. Kitty speaks English well. So just send your requirements to Kitty via WeChat or WhatsApp and you'll get replied soon with availability or straightforward be told there's nobody who fits your requirements well.
Only had Xiao Xiao from Kitty in the past few days but I tried some couple of years ago. They were all very good. Honestly, I may try another one or two ladies from Kitty in the next two days but first I'll see the availability of Chubbycat, Aimee and Janice (I will have her WeChat ID soon, thank you, brother Paul178!). I'm planning to explore around a bit more anyway. Let's see how it works.
VP.
Coolkid168
10-14-15, 23:46
Hi guys, occasionally a serendipity hits: I just got accross a very beautiful girl in my.
Business activity. She works in a company I on and off got in contact and on one occasion she amazingly.
Asked if I would have some foreigner friends she could meet.
Wow.
Well, I told her no problem If she had an email I would forward contacts I would get across. So in case you are adventourous:
Just let me know a short background from you and I will pass it on for her to get back to you.
Her English is perfect so to meet for a cup of coffee is easy and non committing but can be quite interesting..Been using Kitty and Angel's services overtime I'm in Beijing, would loved to expand and explore, meeting someone for coffee first sounds great. Appreciate getting a PM for Grace's contact.
Thanks
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I'm more than happy to help, but you must get PM-ability. As Jackson says.
Regards,
Gergory.
Been using Kitty and Angel's services overtime I'm in Beijing, would loved to expand and explore, meeting someone for coffee first sounds great. Appreciate getting a PM for Grace's contact.
Thanks
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I'm more than happy to help, but you must get PM-ability. As Jackson says.
Regards,
Gergory.Hi guys, just my 10 cents worth. Over many years in Beijing I tried many of these providers, Kitty, Crystal etc. Mainly Angel. I found in the end that Lilly was the most reliable and easy to deal with.
All of the girls come from one source and the providers all pull from one pool, hence you will see the same girls offered by all of these agencies, just need to choose the provider that is on the ball. Lilly usually can provide pics that are genuine and her response is fast and efficient, she uses we chat and once you establish a relationship with her, she will inform you of any new girls that arrive in the stable well before any of the others. I recommend her services highly.
PM me for we chat contact if you're interested.
Thanks in advance.
Gregory.
Hi guys, just my 10 cents worth. Over many years in Beijing I tried many of these providers, Kitty, Crystal etc. Mainly Angel. I found in the end that Lilly was the most reliable and easy to deal with.
All of the girls come from one source and the providers all pull from one pool, hence you will see the same girls offered by all of these agencies, just need to choose the provider that is on the ball. Lilly usually can provide pics that are genuine and her response is fast and efficient, she uses we chat and once you establish a relationship with her, she will inform you of any new girls that arrive in the stable well before any of the others. I recommend her services highly.
PM me for we chat contact if you're interested.
Thanks in advance.
Gregory.Don't think I can give details here Gregory, PM me.
My point is about the English of the girls. Ok, I will ask Kitty.
Another question who is Janice? Aimee I guess is from BNG?
Thanks and keep exchanging info's.
Grgory.You can PM me for info on Janice.
Hi all,
I am back in Beijing after a 4 or 5 year absence. Seems like there are a lot more options here now than when I was living here previously. Walked by Sanlitun SOHO and saw an interesting massage /"hotel" on the 5th or 6th floor of one of the towers. Is this worth checking out? Apologies if this has been talked about before.
Also, I'm curious if there are any Shanghai-style "fishbowl" places. Places with lineups of girls. In Beijing? Or do you guys mostly rely on outcalls? I remember there being nothing of the sort when I lived here, but seems like things have perhaps changed in the last couple years.
Thanks in advance!
Hi all,
I am back in Beijing after a 4 or 5 year absence. Seems like there are a lot more options here now than when I was living here previously. Walked by Sanlitun SOHO and saw an interesting massage /"hotel" on the 5th or 6th floor of one of the towers. Is this worth checking out? Apologies if this has been talked about before.
Also, I'm curious if there are any Shanghai-style "fishbowl" places. Places with lineups of girls. In Beijing? Or do you guys mostly rely on outcalls? I remember there being nothing of the sort when I lived here, but seems like things have perhaps changed in the last couple years.
Thanks in advance!Try the second one, 515 and please report back.
Vera Petrova
10-23-15, 10:27
Sorry for the late response, Gregory. Actually I left Beijing last week. For Kitty's outcall service, just include English speaking in your requirements, Kitty will then let you know if she got any for you according to your requirements. By the way, for brothers who can't speak mandarin, better contact Kitty via WeChat or WhatsApp for good communication instead of calling up her assistant. Kitty speaks good English. Although Kitty has been a great agency with good variations, during this trip, I only tried one from Kitty, as mentioned in my previous posts, because I wanted to explore around a bit more. 1400 CNY for a 2-shot session with a next door type girl named Xiao Xiao.
The next day that followed, I had Grace for an overnight session, as also mentioned in my previous posts. A very good experience, lots of GFE and she charged me a very reasonable price for the session.
Janice is also an independent girl and I contacted her via WeChat but it's a pity because she's out of down at that time.
During the last two days, I had another two independent ladies, Chubbycat and Aimee. Turned out to be really great experiences. 2900 CNY for 2 hours with Chubbycat; 2600 CNY for 2 hours with Aimee.
VP.
My point is about the English of the girls. Ok, I will ask Kitty.
Another question who is Janice? Aimee I guess is from BNG?
Thanks and keep exchanging info's.
Grgory.
Did you ever meet her? If so how long ago?
In case you got some interesting contacts. PM is appreciated.
Gregory.I met her back in January and haven't been back to China since. But that one overnighter with her left an awesome impression. I had to take a conference call with the boss while she was in the room. She sucked my cock during the entire call: the Good thing my Witch of a Boss didn't have a clue Made the whole boring call very enjoying: the.
I kept up with her via wechat and will definitely see her again when I'm back in Beijing in November.
OldAsiaHand
10-24-15, 06:51
During the last two days, I had another two independent ladies, Chubbycat and Aimee. Turned out to be really great experiences. 2900 CNY for 2 hours with Chubbycat; 2600 CNY for 2 hours with Aimee.
VP.VP,
Do I understand what you paid correctly? Are you talking about almost US $500 in China? Beijing was always a more expensive mongering destination compared to other cities in China but that is ridiculous!
Just my POV.
OAH.
{S N I P}
The next day that followed, I had Grace for an overnight session, as also mentioned in my previous posts. A very good experience, lots of GFE and she charged me a very reasonable price for the session.
{S N I P}
During the last two days, I had another two independent ladies, Chubbycat and Aimee. Turned out to be really great experiences. 2900 CNY for 2 hours with Chubbycat; 2600 CNY for 2 hours with Aimee.
VP.
VP,
Do I understand what you paid correctly? Are you talking about almost US $500 in China? Beijing was always a more expensive mongering destination compared to other cities in China but that is ridiculous!
Just my POV.
OAH.Holy smoke, I wonder what he paid for overnight with Grace? "A very reasonable price"?!?!?!?!
Ikksman
Beijinger60
10-25-15, 08:43
Hi there!
I've been a frequent visitor here in the past but now decided to register.
I'm Danish and always looking for fun during my trips to China.
I'll post some reviews in the near future.
Beijinger60
10-25-15, 09:09
Holy smoke, I wonder what he paid for overnight with Grace? "A very reasonable price"?!?!?!?!
IkksmanJesus! How can you justify spending so much! You can get top top quality pussy in Europe for that!
I mean beautiful 10/10, pornstar quality pussy!
Holy smoke, I wonder what he paid for overnight with Grace? "A very reasonable price"?!?!?!?!
IkksmanI have paid those kinds of prices, and more. Amazing quality is available at higher prices. China is a place where you can easily sleep with a supermodel. I have Chinese friends who have paid 10,000. Heard of much more than that to sleep with someone you see on TV or movies.
But you can get a shag for 400 in a back alley. And you get your money's worth.
Beijinger60
10-25-15, 10:50
I have paid those kinds of prices, and more. Amazing quality is available at higher prices. China is a place where you can easily sleep with a supermodel. I have Chinese friends who have paid 10,000. Heard of much more than that to sleep with someone you see on TV or movies.
But you can get a shag for 400 in a back alley. And you get your money's worth.I suppose if you like that style of women very slim with out much shape then you pays your money and you take your choice! But personally for 1500 $ I'd prefer a double Latino pornstar session! I would never pay so much in China. Having said that I've had some great experiences here with both freebies and working girls.
Hi there!
I've been a frequent visitor here in the past but now decided to register.
I'm Danish and always looking for fun during my trips to China.
I'll post some reviews in the near future.Welcome on board!
Don't hesitate to share your experiences. You'll get more in return!
Just landed a $$ bonus and GF is out of country lately so I have been hitting the Spas, BBS, Massage parlors.
Location 1: Chun Xiu Road south across from bus stop in front of the big shopping mall. Only one small room in back. There are 3 shops each with about 5 ladies. BBJ for 200, FS for 300. Service is too pro, pants was not even down when ho started sucking. Cloths do not even come off, ho just sits right on top and start riding. Can grab tits but clothing still on.
Location 2: Chao Yang Bei Road 100 meters east of first subway station on right side. Lots of massage parlors there, BBJ 300, girls are younger in their early 20's, some 30's, takes their time. CIM, real nice and slow service, well slow is about 20 minutes for me. There are too many for me even to tell you which specific one to try as they all offer the same service.
Location 3: Mama's name is Xiao, runs an apt incall on first floor building 9 on south east corner. 400 BJ, 500 FS, girls take it nice and slow. Not super hot but from Sichuan mostly and early 20's. BBJ, CIM, tip and get salad tossed. Sometimes there are 5 girls sometimes only one. Service is good but just dirty apt.
Met a girl lately on Wechat, chatted to her for a few days and we met at Starbucks, I asked her to go to my pad and she asked what for. I talked in circles a bit about being friends and then she comes out straight. Wants an iphone for a fuck and an Iphone 6's. Had to turn that down but she was sure cute, tall with long white legs and nice size tits. Crazy to think someone would pay that for a fuck, but apparently lots of local guys do.
Just landed a $$ bonus and GF is out of country lately so I have been hitting the Spas, BBS, Massage parlors.
Location 1: Chun Xiu Road south across from bus stop in front of the big shopping mall. Only one small room in back. There are 3 shops each with about 5 ladies. BBJ for 200, FS for 300. Service is too pro, pants was not even down when ho started sucking. Cloths do not even come off, ho just sits right on top and start riding. Can grab tits but clothing still on.
Location 2: Chao Yang Bei Road 100 meters east of first subway station on right side. Lots of massage parlors there, BBJ 300, girls are younger in their early 20's, some 30's, takes their time. CIM, real nice and slow service, well slow is about 20 minutes for me. There are too many for me even to tell you which specific one to try as they all offer the same service.
Location 3: Mama's name is Xiao, runs an apt incall on first floor building 9 on south east corner. 400 BJ, 500 FS, girls take it nice and slow. Not super hot but from Sichuan mostly and early 20's. BBJ, CIM, tip and get salad tossed. Sometimes there are 5 girls sometimes only one. Service is good but just dirty apt.
Met a girl lately on Wechat, chatted to her for a few days and we met at Starbucks, I asked her to go to my pad and she asked what for. I talked in circles a bit about being friends and then she comes out straight. Wants an iphone for a fuck and an Iphone 6's. Had to turn that down but she was sure cute, tall with long white legs and nice size tits. Crazy to think someone would pay that for a fuck, but apparently lots of local guys do.Hey bro, great to hear you're still getting great service!
Would you mind being a tad bit more specific with the locations? There's a few malls and bus stations on Chun Xiu Lu, ditto. Lots of subway stations on the right side of Chaoyang Bei Lu. Also. Location 3 sounds hot? I wouldn't mind heading to these spots to try a few.
Best,
Nemo.
Hey bro, great to hear you're still getting great service!
Would you mind being a tad bit more specific with the locations? There's a few malls and bus stations on Chun Xiu Lu, ditto. Lots of subway stations on the right side of Chaoyang Bei Lu. Also. Location 3 sounds hot? I wouldn't mind heading to these spots to try a few.
Best,
Nemo.But if you click his name and look at his prior posts, he tells you a bit more. I've just come back from a very nice BKK and MNL trip so I'm not too interested in local girls. But maybe in the future.
Beconn Reconn
10-31-15, 18:25
Hey guys,
I have a 3 day trip to Beijing coming up in early Dec. What's a good hotel to stay at which is close to the action and maybe has a good bar in it to potentially pick off a local or two? I read that Xiu in the Park Hyatt is decent for that. Any opinions?
It's been a while since I posted.
Was walking through Gangshan Road close by T3. Found a nice massage place, located on the upper floor of the building. "Thai" massage reads a sign. They offer legit massage, the girl had excellent skills and the oil massage was truly enjoyable. She did offer HJ at the end. Total damage 298 plus 100 tip. No FS on premises. She gladly exchanged contact details and hotel delivery was easily arranged for later that night. Mid 20's, northern Chinese Girl. Lots of fun, pro massage, "amateur escort" and in 10 years one of the most GF style experience in China. When you find a gem, value them!
Lao
Beijinger60
11-05-15, 02:14
Hey guys,
Have not been to Van Palace for some time and was wondering if there are still some good places open. I used to go to Tina's place mainly but she has left Beijing now. Any advice would be most appreciated and a report will follow!
Thanks!
Hey guys,
Have not been to Van Palace for some time and was wondering if there are still some good places open. I used to go to Tina's place mainly but she has left Beijing now. Any advice would be most appreciated and a report will follow!
Thanks!Van Palace used to be my favorite place with three or four good establishments, but I think they are all closed.
Was in Beijing about a week. Tried to find location 2 below. Walked both ways from the Dongsi subway stop. Did not find anything. There was a beat down massage shop on second floor. Dirty, OK massage, wanted 300 for he so I left.
Ordered one of the independents from BNG. Got the message to pick her up by the elevator. I go down and get the girl. Cute thing. She asks for money and turn our phones off to not be bothered. After round 1, the room phone rings non stop. Turns out this lady was not from BNG. She just happened to be in the right place at the right time. I sent her away after long Chinese negotiation and argument. I was mad and I'm sure the BNG girl was upset too. No way for a second round so called it a night. Every time after I checked with the agency that I had the right girl.
RolandOrzabal
11-06-15, 15:28
Anybody have any recommendations near WuDaoKou, or just the HaiDian district in general?I'll probably keep bumping this question.
I've been browsing around the area, in particular looking for somewhere with FS, but haven't found anything special yet. I've been to 6 MPs and I never straight up ask for anything other than a massage, but half of them at the end asked if I wanted a he at the end.
One place was 300 for massage + he. Pretty standard. Cute girl, average massage, decent HJ but she kept an eye on the door and tried to keep it hush hush.
Another place was past the fifth ring and pretty shitty. Didn't even have spa scrubs. The hour massage was only like 150 RMB but not very good. A lot of emphasis on the riding-massage thing. Asked if I wanted a he and I asked how much, and she just said something like "just give whatever. " Decent HJ and I gave her 300 total, which she seemed overjoyed about, so I'm betting you could go considerably lower. Even so, I wouldn't go back since the place and massage are worth nothing. Might check out more fifth ring joints though.
The best place was the closest to WDK but the priciest. They're open about their services, the cheapest he bundle is 600 RMB but there's also an 888 and another 1000+ one. Lots of space, my room has a king sized bed and an attached shower. The girl helped me shower but didn't take her clothes off. Good massage and good HJ, much better experience overall than the others. I asked my girl if she'd do BJ or FS and she said no, and I'm thinking if they sell he bundles for over 1 k RMB, FS would cost a ton. I'd go back but I'll probably keep checking out different places for now.
Not sure what to look out for while I'm exploring though, there doesn't seem to be any particular pattern to which places are legit and which places are fun.
There was a report on Xuan from Kitty about a month ago, and I decided to try her out myself about a week ago. Long story short. She was fantastic and I fully recommend her as well. I liked her so much I called her twice in one week. She's fairly plain. Not a looker, but not ugly. Just plain. But the perfect spinner, and very eager and friendly.
And no, I don't work for Kitty. Xuan is a great find and just wanted to spread the word.
Yes. I also can validate this report! Xuan is definitely worth your time and money!
There was a report on Xuan from Kitty about a month ago, and I decided to try her out myself about a week ago. Long story short. She was fantastic and I fully recommend her as well. I liked her so much I called her twice in one week. She's fairly plain. Not a looker, but not ugly. Just plain. But the perfect spinner, and very eager and friendly.
And no, I don't work for Kitty. Xuan is a great find and just wanted to spread the word.
Hi,
I try to send you a PM but without reply. Appreciate if you could contact me.
Thanks!
My first time as a pimp so excuse the clumsiness.
She is one of my GFs from my time in Ghana. Actually she is a Liberian.
At the moment she is visiting Beijing as a guest of her brother and cousin.
Her long-term dream is to: a) get out of Ghana & b) be a global supermodel.
She stays in regular touch mainly to get me to send her cash.
Now she wants money in Beijing. So an opportunity for you to have some cheap naughty fun with a long-legged ebony beauty!
See my reports on the Ghana forum such as #3277.
PM me for her contact details.
After trying some other services in Beijing I decide to give Kitty a try. It was after her normal hours but she responded. I had simple requirements: young, thin and BBBJ. Within 60 minutes she arrived at the hotel. Mentioned her name. Could of been Xuan mentioned below. Small girl about 40-45 kg. Can't judge age well but probably mid-20's. Some gap teeth but she had a great happy attitude and met my criteria. Shower (together) and she did not rush to the deed as other providers. Dry off, got me a towel, chat a few minutes via translator. The service was exactly what I needed. BBBJ, acg, finish in mish. Still a great attitude and cuddle a little, shower together again, dried me off. After a few minutes of talk and closeness she left. What a refreshing experience versus the ones that rush you to finish then are gone in 60 seconds. Best 700 spent on the entire trip. I should of started with Kitty instead of reaching her for the farewell shot.
Moth To Flames
11-13-15, 18:41
I'll probably keep bumping this question.
.You can find FS at Xi Hua business hotel near the west gate of the Peking University. Can't quite recall but I think I was propositioned at around 1000 or even 1,500, quite possibly the latter.
Also, pulling this from the archives.
Yes there most certainly are massage places near the university! Can't tell you what's available at what price but I'd be pretty sure you'll find whatever you are looking for.
Follow the road almost opposite the West Gate to the canal and turn right. There is a nice looking massage place with for massage starting at about 60kuai IIRC. Other massage options were in the mid hundreds I think. A few doors up is a pink light parlour. First night I walked past I thought I saw some pretty young things, but second night I walked past at around 5pm and there were some haggard crones around 40year old with false hair. Proceed with caution, young adventurer!
Alternatively, carry on along the same road past the canal and at the main road you'll be standing outside another massage place. Was tempted to try but the wall was full of information I couldn't understand (prices, packages etc) and mug shots of the masseurs. Seemed a bit clinical but at the same time that it was a front (or was that my small head thinking?). I was on a tight budget though so decided to skip it, didn't want the risk of veggie. Take a right up the main road and don't bother with Red Apple Bathing. Bath is only 18rmb but with cockroaches kicking around the shower you'll feel dirtier than when you entered. Got a half hearted massage from a tired, plan girl with no suggestion of extras. Again, a few doors on is an indiscreet pink light BBS.
North of the intersection it gets very local and middle aged sole proprietors will wank you off for 50 kuai. Just saying.
YankeeBoyNY
11-22-15, 14:20
Are suggestion to find a Russian lady in Beijing? Prefer independent.
VancouverBoy
11-23-15, 15:57
Hey guys, I will be moving to Beijing sometimes next week, please let me know how reliable are Backpage ladies? Are the pics real or not? Prices are not really cheap there but I'm wondering at least if is. What you see is what you get, kinda thing!? I've been moving for good to Beijing, after I lived 4 years in Seoul, SK! I ve been to Beijing for few days in June this year, my friend took me to Maggie's, but they ask ridiculous amount of money.
Like 2000 CNY? I didn't get it. It's for overnight or for an hour? But for that kinda money you can get hot model looking Korean girl, or in Europe you can get a porn star [latino or so} anyway. I can help you with lots of info.
About 'the game' in Korea, which I know well what's going on? I'm in early 40's, and fit, clean look, short hair. Any advice for good massages or full service?
Happy mongering folks!
RolandOrzabal
11-25-15, 13:16
You can find FS at Xi Hua business hotel near the west gate of the Peking University. Can't quite recall but I think I was propositioned at around 1000 or even 1,500, quite possibly the latter.
Also, pulling this from the archives.Thank you!
Have you been around those places recently? Not too optimistic about them being around two years later, but I'll go check them out when I get a chance regardless.
Hello,
I have visited and lived in Beijing since 2000.
Short question: Are there still (one or two) Chinese working ladies at Chocolate, typically in the bar towards the right when leaving the escalator?
Any names are welcome, from a year ago I remember Emily (or Natasha, she thinks she has to act like a Russian to attract interest) and Ana.
Cheers,
J
Bad Boy Billy
12-13-15, 07:21
Civilisation as I know it in Beijing comes to an abrupt halt today when BJs best known / longest established expat bat The Den closes it's doors permanently after 18 long glorious years.
Apparently the building is owned by Govt and whist mgmt. Had been negotiating lease extensions for some months on Thursday night Dec 10 they were officially told midnight on Sunday Dec 13 was the-day. Close the doors and remove all fixtures fittings within 48 hrs.
Many ISGers will remember fondly the 100's of debaucherous drunken nights we had here. Remember the good old days when you ate downstairs then wondered upstairs when the disco started to select your hoare for the night? What an institution. How many countless nights did we sit downstairs eating a meal. Half price beer and pizza. And planning the attack from there. OK guys. Lets go to The Pig first. Or Hollywood first. Then Chocolate then Maggies.
OMG what memories. Yes it has not been what it used to be lately. But let's face it what has in Beijing?
Staff are just devastated. They are just a beautiful bunch of kids working there. Final wake this evening with 'The Party' timed for 5 to 9 pm. It's going to be a long night!
Civilisation as I know it in Beijing comes to an abrupt halt today when BJs best known / longest established expat bat The Den closes it's doors permanently after 18 long glorious years.
Apparently the building is owned by Govt and whist mgmt. Had been negotiating lease extensions for some months on Thursday night Dec 10 they were officially told midnight on Sunday Dec 13 was the-day. Close the doors and remove all fixtures fittings within 48 hrs.
Many ISGers will remember fondly the 100's of debaucherous drunken nights we had here. Remember the good old days when you ate downstairs then wondered upstairs when the disco started to select your hoare for the night? What an institution. How many countless nights did we sit downstairs eating a meal. Half price beer and pizza. And planning the attack from there. OK guys. Lets go to The Pig first. Or Hollywood first. Then Chocolate then Maggies.
OMG what memories. Yes it has not been what it used to be lately. But let's face it what has in Beijing?
Staff are just devastated. They are just a beautiful bunch of kids working there. Final wake this evening with 'The Party' timed for 5 to 9 pm. It's going to be a long night!Yes First the Pig and now the Den. Beijing will never be the same again. Amazingly we almost always had the same plan every night but the plan always seemed to work. At least we have our memories. Beijing just isn't as much fun anymore.
After trying some other services in Beijing I decide to give Kitty a try. It was after her normal hours but she responded. I had simple requirements: young, thin and BBBJ. Within 60 minutes she arrived at the hotel. Mentioned her name. Could of been Xuan mentioned below. Small girl about 40-45 kg. Can't judge age well but probably mid-20's. Some gap teeth but she had a great happy attitude and met my criteria. Shower (together) and she did not rush to the deed as other providers. Dry off, got me a towel, chat a few minutes via translator. The service was exactly what I needed. BBBJ, acg, finish in mish. Still a great attitude and cuddle a little, shower together again, dried me off. After a few minutes of talk and closeness she left. What a refreshing experience versus the ones that rush you to finish then are gone in 60 seconds. Best 700 spent on the entire trip. I should of started with Kitty instead of reaching her for the farewell shot.Which other services did you try that were not as good as Kittys.
After trying some other services in Beijing I decide to give Kitty a try. It was after her normal hours but she responded. I had simple requirements: young, thin and BBBJ. Within 60 minutes she arrived at the hotel. Mentioned her name. Could of been Xuan mentioned below. Small girl about 40-45 kg. Can't judge age well but probably mid-20's. Some gap teeth but she had a great happy attitude and met my criteria. Shower (together) and she did not rush to the deed as other providers. Dry off, got me a towel, chat a few minutes via translator. The service was exactly what I needed. BBBJ, acg, finish in mish. Still a great attitude and cuddle a little, shower together again, dried me off. After a few minutes of talk and closeness she left. What a refreshing experience versus the ones that rush you to finish then are gone in 60 seconds. Best 700 spent on the entire trip. I should of started with Kitty instead of reaching her for the farewell shot.I find your report a little sus as well, Kitty's is certainly not the best provider in BJ in my humble opinion, interested to see your reply to Canada's question.
As I have stated before, and this information comes from a reliable source, all the girls working from agencies come from the same pool, the providers are just agents (sub contractors) so the service, price etc. Will be the same. You are happy with Kitty's, that's fine, but it's the girls that are either good or bad, nothing to do with the agents.
Civilisation as I know it in Beijing comes to an abrupt halt today when BJs best known / longest established expat bat The Den closes it's doors permanently after 18 long glorious years.
Apparently the building is owned by Govt and whist mgmt. Had been negotiating lease extensions for some months on Thursday night Dec 10 they were officially told midnight on Sunday Dec 13 was the-day. Close the doors and remove all fixtures fittings within 48 hrs.
Many ISGers will remember fondly the 100's of debaucherous drunken nights we had here. Remember the good old days when you ate downstairs then wondered upstairs when the disco started to select your hoare for the night? What an institution. How many countless nights did we sit downstairs eating a meal. Half price beer and pizza. And planning the attack from there. OK guys. Lets go to The Pig first. Or Hollywood first. Then Chocolate then Maggies.
OMG what memories. Yes it has not been what it used to be lately. But let's face it what has in Beijing?
Staff are just devastated. They are just a beautiful bunch of kids working there. Final wake this evening with 'The Party' timed for 5 to 9 pm. It's going to be a long night!Maybe too many foreigners having too much fun there? That's not in the plan. Certainly was a go to bar, only place to get pie and chips and a good ale that I know of?
FreebieFan
12-14-15, 03:47
Maybe too many foreigners having too much fun there? That's not in the plan. Certainly was a go to bar, only place to get pie and chips and a good ale that I know of?Damn, that's not good. I went there ocassionally and as you state, enjoyed the ale and the pie and chips. There one guy that was always there, short European guy, smoker, would drink his Budweiser, had a older chinese GF, he would sit with his mates, she would be playing on her phone, they never seemed to talk, but always left together. Good place, could always find a few African ladies at 2 am there.
Damn, that's not good. I went there ocassionally and as you state, enjoyed the ale and the pie and chips. There one guy that was always there, short European guy, smoker, would drink his Budweiser, had a older chinese GF, he would sit with his mates, she would be playing on her phone, they never seemed to talk, but always left together. Good place, could always find a few African ladies at 2 am there.Here is a old posting of bars from Sammy T. Pretty much explains the way Beijing was.
Easy Bar Info.
Some of the bars mentioned in my guide.
(click on the bar name to get the address and a map).
Pig and thistle in the holiday inn lido.
Located outside off the 4th ring road, north east of the city along the way to the airport. Tell the taxi driver "li du fan dian" and he will know where to take you. For those historians on the board the pig and thistle was once called the pig and whistle, but they were forced to change their name a few years ago because there is some other bar in China with the name pig and thistle that has registered it as a trademark in China. It is easiest to simply refer to it as "the pig". The pig has a decent 2 for 1 "happy hour" from 5 to 8. You pay hotel bar prices for your drinks, but when they are 2 for 1 it is not so bad. Some chinese working girls will start to show up as early as 6, and the mongolian and russian girls are usually in force by 10. If the chinese girls are not in the pig they can often be found sitting at either the starbuck's or baskin robins in the lido complex around the corner. All of the chinese girls at the pig are "regulars", there night after night. They are all very friendly and will be more than happy to act as a tour guide for you during the day. I have arraigned this for friends on several occasions and they have always been pleased. The pig closes at 2 am, and last call is 1 am. Typically the girls will gauge the crowd and start to leave for either the hard rock or maggie's around midnight. If you don't know what you are doing, just sit down at the bar and strike up a conversation with another guy. There is an ATM in the lido complex that accepts international debit and credit cards. Since the pig is located in a major international hotel chain it will accept credit cards for payment. The pig is an oasis in the middle of hostile territory. The lido is still a haven for much of the expat population in Beijing, so there is always a chance you will run into the wife of one of your expat partners. If it is early simply tell the girl to follow you at a safe distance, and to keep walking should you stop to chat with someone.
Hollywood (now located in the old absent night club location).
The old hollywood next to the ritan hotel has been torn down, but don't despair! The entire cast of characters from the bouncers to the bartenders have moved to the old absent location. There is a 50 rmb cover charge to enter. Hollywood has the highest population of russian girls in Beijing, as well as some mongolian and chinese girls. Unlike other bars, the girls in hollywood all sit at tables waiting for the guys to approach them. They also have a nightly floor show, which I believe starts at 10 pm, and is repeated at midnight. They will not let you run a tab, so you must pay for your drinks as you go. They will tell you they do not accept credit cards, but this is only because they do not want to run the card for small purchases. If you buy a bottle of something and some mixers, or wish to pre-pay for several drinks, they will take a credit card.
Hard rock café (hrc).
Located right next to the great wall sheraton hotel. You standard hard rock café you will find in many big cities around the world, except working girls start to show up around 11:00 pm. You have to pay a 100 rmb cover charge to get in every night except Wednesday. The cover includes your first drink. They usually have a pilipino band playing that is not too bad. To get a good view hang around the stair case behind the bar. I would venture to say that 99% of the single girls there are working, and they can all speak some english. The hard rock is a tourist trap, so there are some non-working girls, but it is easy to distinguish the pros from the straight girls. You will find chinese, mongolian, and some russian girls at the hard rock. Talk, flirt, enjoy the view and the music. If you find a girl you like she will be happy to go with you. The girls have to pay a cover to get in every night, plus they must pay security monthly or they will be turned away at the door, so expect t.
With the Den closing an era is ending in Beijing. We have lost the Pig, We have lost Hollywood Now we have lost the Den. When these 2 bars were in their prime we also had the king of information in Beijing: Sammy T. For those of you that had the pleasure of hunting with Sammy no explanation is needed. For any newbie coming to Beijing the best info came from Sammy. There is no one now or no one ever that had the knowledge and relationship with the Mongolian sisters. His knowledge and advice was god.
Sammy thanks for the memories.
Quote 2011: "Long live my great mate Sammy T. King of the social scene in Beijing. You are a legend in my eyes Sammy. 11-15-11 20:36 #8009.
Bad Boy Billy ".
Sammy was a legend in all our eyes.
Which other services did you try that were not as good as Kittys.Tried a gorgeous lady from the hotel lobby. My fault for poor negotiation. No BBBJ and wanted to get done in 10 minutes.
Tried Beijing nightlife guide. Shirley. Cute and pretty girl but again no BBBJ and had to argue for 2nd round despite a 2 hour appointment.
Tried Beijing nightlife guide Tina. Looks not so good in my opinion. Reluctantly did 10 second BBBJ then hurry up.
Tried to find one of the massage shops mentioned earlier, but ended up at the wrong one and will not pay 200 house fee + 400 tip just for HJ in a filthy room.
So I may have just made bad choices earlier and I may have gotten a lucky draw with the girl Kitty sent, but it was the best session out of the Beijing leg of the trip.
Previously I was also happy with the non-FS service at Lemon Tree but I did not try them this time.
Transmuter
12-15-15, 18:15
With the Den closing an era is ending in Beijing. We have lost the Pig, We have lost Hollywood Now we have lost the Den. When these 2 bars were in their prime we also had the king of information in Beijing: Sammy T. For those of you that had the pleasure of hunting with Sammy no explanation is needed. For any newbie coming to Beijing the best info came from Sammy. There is no one now or no one ever that had the knowledge and relationship with the Mongolian sisters. His knowledge and advice was god.
Sammy thanks for the memories.
Quote 2011: "Long live my great mate Sammy T. King of the social scene in Beijing. You are a legend in my eyes Sammy. 11-15-11 20:36 #8009.
Bad Boy Billy ".
Sammy was a legend in all our eyes.Yes. I remember early 2006 I came to Beijing and I accidentally stumbled into Maggies 8:30 p, no action anyway, 3 girls sat down next to me and asked strange questions. Then I was invited for bowling to Lido building, passed by the P&W, said to myself I need to check it later. Met Mary, called her Queen Mary, I found she was more attractive than most in there. I read Sammy T's advise, went to HRC, didn't understand why he suggests it, then found out I had lunch already at The Den, and finally back to Maggies after 11:30 p.
At that time we had a heavy poster calling himself Zhuren, he vanished (or renamed?) around 2010, I remember he posted "are you a shopper or a buyer?" and I truly said I am a buyer. Etc. Etc. Later I met Sammy T. , he does not know me but I know him when he hit me by accident in M. And offered me a beer. I also realized I used to live in the same compound before 2008.
Over the last years I became a regular to The Den, I even deliberately moved house to SLT to be close. Now, the sad thing is the only remaining place is M. And it is not at all anymore what it used to be some 10 years ago.
I wonder where the community is going now. Please let me know.
Yes. I remember early 2006 I came to Beijing and I accidentally stumbled into Maggies 8:30 p, no action anyway, 3 girls sat down next to me and asked strange questions. Then I was invited for bowling to Lido building, passed by the P&W, said to myself I need to check it later. Met Mary, called her Queen Mary, I found she was more attractive than most in there. I read Sammy T's advise, went to HRC, didn't understand why he suggests it, then found out I had lunch already at The Den, and finally back to Maggies after 11:30 p.
At that time we had a heavy poster calling himself Zhuren, he vanished (or renamed?) around 2010, I remember he posted "are you a shopper or a buyer?" and I truly said I am a buyer. Etc. Etc. Later I met Sammy T. , he does not know me but I know him when he hit me by accident in M. And offered me a beer. I also realized I used to live in the same compound before 2008.
Over the last years I became a regular to The Den, I even deliberately moved house to SLT to be close. Now, the sad thing is the only remaining place is M. And it is not at all anymore what it used to be some 10 years ago.
I wonder where the community is going now. Please let me know.Yes Zhuran was definitely in the mix then. He had an Asian wife (Japanese I think) that liked Mongolian girls as much as we did. Not sure what happened to him but he was worth running with. We had some great nights. Yes sad that a watered down Maggies is all that's left. Maybe something new and good will appear in Beijing. I always stayed at the Lido because of the Pig and that is where I met Sammy first.
Tried a gorgeous lady from the hotel lobby. My fault for poor negotiation. No BBBJ and wanted to get done in 10 minutes.
Tried Beijing nightlife guide. Shirley. Cute and pretty girl but again no BBBJ and had to argue for 2nd round despite a 2 hour appointment.
Tried Beijing nightlife guide Tina. Looks not so good in my opinion. Reluctantly did 10 second BBBJ then hurry up.
Tried to find one of the massage shops mentioned earlier, but ended up at the wrong one and will not pay 200 house fee + 400 tip just for HJ in a filthy room.
So I may have just made bad choices earlier and I may have gotten a lucky draw with the girl Kitty sent, but it was the best session out of the Beijing leg of the trip.
Previously I was also happy with the non-FS service at Lemon Tree but I did not try them this time.Amazingly your report is very similar to all the other ads for Kitty's. If the best session in Beijing that you are getting is from Kitty then you must be having terrible luck. I suggest you try making some different choices. Kitty services remain the same for the last 5 years.
RolandOrzabal
12-16-15, 19:50
You can find FS at Xi Hua business hotel near the west gate of the Peking University. Can't quite recall but I think I was propositioned at around 1000 or even 1,500, quite possibly the latter.
Also, pulling this from the archives.Went to the hotel tonight and can confirm it does offer FS, and yeah it's around 1400-1600 RMB.
I got there around 11:30 PM, went in and had the spa treatment. Shower, soak, scrubbed down by a shirtless Chinese boy, and then taken upstairs to a small room with two beds and a TV. The masseuse came in and I opted for the 400 RMB massage, which was decent. No hint of anything extra, until after the massage when she asked if I wanted anything else. I asked about my options and she bluntly said 800 for a HJ, 1200 for BJ and 1600 for FS. Way more than I'd like to pay, but I figured I'd try it to see how it was. Negotiated FS down to 1400.
She went and got her gear, put a towel over the door window and turned on the TV to cover the sound. Sex was pretty good. She didn't seem to want the give me the GFE at first but shit for 1400, I expect it. I don't usually want to DATY with WGs but I did this time and afterwards she opened up to DFK and GFE. No clock watching or starfish, open to multiple positions.
Total damage was 1900 RMB for the spa + FS. I had a good time, but at that price I don't think I'll be paying it another visit. Good to know it's there though.
I also looked around for the MPs and BBSs Moth wrote about near the canal but didn't see any, it's just a quiet neighborhood. The search for a place I can regularly go to for FS on the side of town (near WuDaoKou) will continue.
Hi, dude, have you tried Kitty's ladies recently? If yes, tell us whom you tried. From my experiences, Kitty is definitely the best of all outcall providers considering the very reasonable prices and professional services. I've been using Kitty's services for more than 7 years. Just my two cents.
ChinBro.
Amazingly your report is very similar to all the other ads for Kitty's. If the best session in Beijing that you are getting is from Kitty then you must be having terrible luck. I suggest you try making some different choices. Kitty services remain the same for the last 5 years.
Hi, dude, have you tried Kitty's ladies recently? If yes, tell us whom you tried. From my experiences, Kitty is definitely the best of all outcall providers considering the very reasonable prices and professional services. I've been using Kitty's services for more than 7 years. Just my two cents.
ChinBro.I have not tried Kittys recently. Last time I tried was last January. I tried just to see if it had changed in the last few years. I got a girl supposedly 20 years old named Li or Liu average looks. Spoke little English went straight into bed. Did not like to do BBBJ and wanted to go straight to sex. Had decent body and was quite tight. She said I was too big. Sex for about 10 minutes. Fake moans that turn me off. Actually if you just want to get your nut off it was ok. But I like the GFE. I don't use outcall because I agree they normally are all bad. I am glad that Kitty's is the best of outcall. It just isn't for me. I am just surprised that there are so many good posts about Kitty service that all sound the same. I am sure Kitty has a couple girls that are good but on average if a newbie calls they will get exactly what I got. Price is cheap but you get what you pay for. I will not try again. Just not worth it. I am glad you are getting what you want from Kitty. Obviously you are getting a better quality than the normal monger and you deserve to if you are a regular customer. I am just warning new guys on this site not to believe everything that they read here.
I have not tried Kittys recently. Last time I tried was last January. I tried just to see if it had changed in the last few years. I got a girl supposedly 20 years old named Li or Liu average looks. Spoke little English went straight into bed. Did not like to do BBBJ and wanted to go straight to sex. Had decent body and was quite tight. She said I was too big. Sex for about 10 minutes. Fake moans that turn me off. Actually if you just want to get your nut off it was ok. But I like the GFE. I don't use outcall because I agree they normally are all bad. I am glad that Kitty's is the best of outcall. It just isn't for me. I am just surprised that there are so many good posts about Kitty service that all sound the same. I am sure Kitty has a couple girls that are good but on average if a newbie calls they will get exactly what I got. Price is cheap but you get what you pay for. I will not try again. Just not worth it. I am glad you are getting what you want from Kitty. Obviously you are getting a better quality than the normal monger and you deserve to if you are a regular customer. I am just warning new guys on this site not to believe everything that they read here.I agree whole heartedly, far too many positive posts regarding Kitty's considering that her service is below average.
I have tried all of these outcall services over the years and found Lily to be the best.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Hi guys, I know that not everybody shares the same liking, luckily.
But I would wish whenever someone here had a good personal experience with an outcall:
Just drop a note in that forum where you found your gem and offer to share. In PRIVAT only. Via PM.
I did several times offer in Shanghai as well as in Beijing Forum and almost always interested guys were as happy as I (YMMV, of course).
Agency experiences are much less reliable. You all know why.
Gregory.
Vera Petrova
12-20-15, 04:38
Sorry for the late response, Gregory. Actually I left Beijing last week. For Kitty's outcall service, just include English speaking in your requirements, Kitty will then let you know if she got any for you according to your requirements. By the way, for brothers who can't speak mandarin, better contact Kitty via WeChat or WhatsApp for good communication instead of calling up her assistant. Kitty speaks good English. Although Kitty has been a great agency with good variations, during this trip, I only tried one from Kitty, as mentioned in my previous posts, because I wanted to explore around a bit more. 1400 CNY for a 2-shot session with a next door type girl named Xiao Xiao.
The next day that followed, I had Grace for an overnight session, as also mentioned in my previous posts. A very good experience, lots of GFE and she charged me a very reasonable price for the session.
Janice is also an independent girl and I contacted her via WeChat but it's a pity because she's out of down at that time.
During the last two days, I had another two independent ladies, Chubbycat and Aimee. Turned out to be really great experiences. 2900 CNY for 2 hours with Chubbycat; 2600 CNY for 2 hours with Aimee.
VP.
Holy smoke, I wonder what he paid for overnight with Grace? "A very reasonable price"?!?!?!?!
Ikksman1500 CNY for the overnight session with Grace, good GFE. Was it a reasonable charge?
I have paid those kinds of prices, and more. Amazing quality is available at higher prices. China is a place where you can easily sleep with a supermodel. I have Chinese friends who have paid 10,000. Heard of much more than that to sleep with someone you see on TV or movies.
But you can get a shag for 400 in a back alley. And you get your money's worth.Totally agree with you, brother Worm.
Vera Petrova
12-20-15, 05:04
There was a report on Xuan from Kitty about a month ago, and I decided to try her out myself about a week ago. Long story short. She was fantastic and I fully recommend her as well. I liked her so much I called her twice in one week. She's fairly plain. Not a looker, but not ugly. Just plain. But the perfect spinner, and very eager and friendly.
And no, I don't work for Kitty. Xuan is a great find and just wanted to spread the word.
Yes. I also can validate this report! Xuan is definitely worth your time and money!Haven't had Xuan so far but I'm going to have her during the next trip if still available. Thanks, brother Optional and TAZ77.
After trying some other services in Beijing I decide to give Kitty a try. It was after her normal hours but she responded. I had simple requirements: young, thin and BBBJ. Within 60 minutes she arrived at the hotel. Mentioned her name. Could of been Xuan mentioned below. Small girl about 40-45 kg. Can't judge age well but probably mid-20's. Some gap teeth but she had a great happy attitude and met my criteria. Shower (together) and she did not rush to the deed as other providers. Dry off, got me a towel, chat a few minutes via translator. The service was exactly what I needed. BBBJ, acg, finish in mish. Still a great attitude and cuddle a little, shower together again, dried me off. After a few minutes of talk and closeness she left. What a refreshing experience versus the ones that rush you to finish then are gone in 60 seconds. Best 700 spent on the entire trip. I should of started with Kitty instead of reaching her for the farewell shot.Good report, brother Vonpag. Keep contributing.
I find your report a little sus as well, Kitty's is certainly not the best provider in BJ in my humble opinion, interested to see your reply to Canada's question.
As I have stated before, and this information comes from a reliable source, all the girls working from agencies come from the same pool, the providers are just agents (sub contractors) so the service, price etc. Will be the same. You are happy with Kitty's, that's fine, but it's the girls that are either good or bad, nothing to do with the agents.In my humble opinion, I don't think at all all these outcall agencies share the same pool. If Kitty and Lily share the same pool, why does Kitty has so many ladies on hand but Lily just a few, not more than 10? And in general, ladies from Lily's stable are not beautiful, below average looks. Just my POV, no offense.
Haven't had Xuan so far but I'm going to have her during the next trip if still available. Thanks, brother Optional and TAZ77.
Good report, brother Vonpag. Keep contributing.
In my humble opinion, I don't think at all all these outcall agencies share the same pool. If Kitty and Lily share the same pool, why does Kitty has so many ladies on hand but Lily just a few, not more than 10? And in general, ladies from Lily's stable are not beautiful, below average looks. Just my POV, no offense.No offence taken my friend, everyone has their own opinion, I just beg to disagree with your opinion on Lily's girls. I have had some very nice types from her, admittedly not models but just what I expect from this type of service considering price etc.
I don't want to promote any service in particular, but I have had the same girls from many of them, maybe under a different name. Lily I find is efficient and on the job compared with others, that's the main reason I used her exclusively while in BJ.
Beijing Fox
12-21-15, 14:57
Yes Zhuran was definitely in the mix then. He had an Asian wife (Japanese I think) that liked Mongolian girls as much as we did. Not sure what happened to him but he was worth running with. We had some great nights. Yes sad that a watered down Maggies is all that's left. Maybe something new and good will appear in Beijing. I always stayed at the Lido because of the Pig and that is where I met Sammy first.If not, we can always move to Shanghai.
LukeSkywalker
12-21-15, 23:52
I met Sammy one afternoon at the Holiday Inn Lido a few years back. He was so drunk, his speech was slurring, he was having troubles standing straight, and was trying very hard to hold up the building hahaha. Don't know if Sammy is still hanging out at the Lido.
I met Sunny inside the Pigs and Thistles bar, arguably one of the most beautiful, polished and sexiest girls in China. I quickly dumped Sammy (sorry!) and took Sunny into a taxi back to the hotel near Tian An Mon square. We had some of the hottest sex together. She was trembling, panting in excitement, kissing, biting my neck, chest and nipples. She was one of the best girls I had in bed, ever.
I took her out to dinner at a Teppanyaki place nearby. She was so pretty guys on the street would turn their heads staring at her. The little girl ate and drink about twice as much as I did, downing 2 big bottles of beer on her own. The chef and the whole wait staff left the kitchen and stood in a row staring at her (of course not me) eating.
We had sex a couple times. Right after the first session, she was caressing my semi hard dick in the most loving, whispering urgently into my ears in the sexiest way: "Do it again. Honey. " How could I resist such sexy approaches?
I came back visiting with her a few times in Beijing. She wanted me to marry her and take her out of China. To have passionate sex with one of the prettiest girl every night? It's very tempting.
Yes Zhuran was definitely in the mix then. He had an Asian wife (Japanese I think) that liked Mongolian girls as much as we did. Not sure what happened to him but he was worth running with. We had some great nights. Yes sad that a watered down Maggies is all that's left. Maybe something new and good will appear in Beijing. I always stayed at the Lido because of the Pig and that is where I met Sammy first.
Haven't had Xuan so far but I'm going to have her during the next trip if still available. Thanks, brother Optional and TAZ77.
Good report, brother Vonpag. Keep contributing.
In my humble opinion, I don't think at all all these outcall agencies share the same pool. If Kitty and Lily share the same pool, why does Kitty has so many ladies on hand but Lily just a few, not more than 10? And in general, ladies from Lily's stable are not beautiful, below average looks. Just my POV, no offense.BTW, it is easy for her to say she has many ladies, but usually you will choose only one, so unless you have seen them all (more than 10) I would take that with a grain of salt. Just a marketing ploy me thinks?
Believe me, there is a company that sources the girls and then Kitty, Lily, Angel etc. Act as agents. If you use these agents enough you will encounter the same girls, often using a different name.
I've had some luck with wechat. Landed a lover. Married, 2 kids, late 30's early 40's- I never asked her age and don't care. She likes fucking. I have some free time and she comes over. A little money- and not every time. Christmas and all that you know. Wechat will translate well enough. I'm working on another- for variety. Hey, I could get lucky. I like the arrangement. And I think she does.
BTW, it is easy for her to say she has many ladies, but usually you will choose only one, so unless you have seen them all (more than 10) I would take that with a grain of salt. Just a marketing ploy me thinks?
Believe me, there is a company that sources the girls and then Kitty, Lily, Angel etc. Act as agents. If you use these agents enough you will encounter the same girls, often using a different name.I've had her before. Extremely enthusiastic and is a semi screamer. She looked better when her hair was short, now it's a mix of blonde and her original color. She has a very accommodating attitude too. Very petite and a wonder that she's had kids. Loves DFK. But she's in her 30's, so don't expect a teenager. Doesn't speak English. But overall I had a great time.
Hey fellas, I've been reading this forum quiet a bit and thought I give back. This was my trip back in October 2015 and first time hobbying in Beijing. I did most of my research online.
Using forums such as this one.
Background: I'm Chinese and am fluent but have been in the states the vast majority of my life.
Price: All prices below will be in RMB.
Day 1- KTV.
6 of us went to dirty K near 工20307; (Worker's Sports Complex) area with a friend who is local to Beijing. We were early (8 pm?) so saw 3 lineups with around 25 girls each. It was 2000 RMB for.
The room that included KTV, snacks (fruits) and unlimited beer / water. We pick our girls, 500/600 each depending on if she had a tag. I would say all the girls are at least 6-7 with.
Some 8-9's. Dress code was all over the place, some wore girl next door clothing, some in evening dresses and others in skin tight skimpy outfits. I picked a petite girl who is a solid 8.
Had a great time for a couple of hours (PG 13 - touching okay above the waist) drinking, KTV, dancing and playing dice. We were heading to the clubs next so.
We asked if the girls wanted to come. It depends on your vibe and some girls wants to go and some don't. In the end 3 girls came (2 of our guys passed they said their girls were.
Pros so they would rather try their luck at the club, 1 guy didn't really like his girl, 2 girls came willingly and 3rd girl took some persuasion). The girls get 200 more to come out with.
Us but some would rather stay because they can work another shift and earn 500/600 more. IMHO if the girl doesn't come willingly it's prob not worth the effort.
We head to the club and get table service. I'm having a great time with my girl and one of the other girls is also letting lose. Basically they're on a date with you, so dancing, drinking and.
Chatting. The 3rd girl who didn't really want to come out was cold (no surprise there) to his guy, to her credit he was a newbie and def not into the hobby. The girls stick with their date.
So when I hit it off great with another girl that came out my girl got pissed because the other girl was encroaching on her date (me).
Around 2 AM, I feel like calling it a night and ask my girl if she wants to come back to my hotel with me. She does and we didn't discuss rates until back in our hotel room. She asked for.
1200 and honestly I know I could have negotiated lower but didn't since I had a great time (KTV, Club and Hotel) and she spend the whole night with me. We both take turns showering and she's.
Waiting for me in bed when I get out of the shower. Started with BBBJ, a few different positions and I finish. This girl is super petite and tight. She stayed a bit and exchanged wechat.
Contacts. She would have slept over but I had an early appointment with friends so I paid and said she can go.
I was only in town for a couple of days, she did try to wechat me again to hang out but I wasn't free. I would say being able to speak Chinese def helps since the girls spoke very little English.
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Hey fellas,
I've been reading this forum quiet a bit and thought I give back. This was my trip back in October 2015 and first time hobbying in Beijing. I did most of my research online.
Using forums such as this one.
Background: I'm Chinese and am fluent but have been in the states the vast majority of my life.
Price: All prices below will be in RMB.
Day 1 - KTV. See previous post.
Day 2 - Kittys.
I contacted Kitty's ahead of time so I had her on wechat. (her site is blocked in China so make sure you have VPN or her contact info ahead of time). I reached out to her in Chinese but she responded in English. Guess my wechat and not great Chinese gave it away. I opted for the overnight service because it was so cheap compared to the states. 2000 RMB for girl next door type. She arrived on time (about 15 minutes late) and was a 6 at most. I was a little worried since Kitty advertises 11:30 pm to 6:30 AM and I'm not a morning person so I wasn't sure about getting up at 6:30 for another pop. We both shower first and proceed to BBBJ and a few positions before finishing. We chat a bit and I find out she does this as a part time gig like many other people mentioned. I tried to get 1 more pop in but she said morning so I didn't push it since I was already tired. She mentions that she didn't have anything to do the next day so we could sleep I and have the second pop whenever. But I did have something planned around 10 am so we woke up around 9 got my second pop and off she goes. I don't think I would repeat since the hours are pretty late there really isn't too much advantage over just ordering 2 girls for 1400.
I did see recently she updated her overnight to be 3 shots. But I still don't think I would repeat overnight.
Meiguoguizi
12-30-15, 05:55
During the years 2005-2010 I spend every Christmas Eve in Maggies and flew to the states the next day. Always a Mongolian 'f'mas.
Last week went down memory lane in Beijing and was saddened by the size, age, and attitude of the tribe remnants in Maggies. Sigh.
Spent most of the week on Wechat screening offers and negotiating prices. Centro was busy with overpriced but hot Chinese. Had one memorable evening with a Sichuan 25 year old who apparently lives in Hebei and travels to Beijing for weekend subsidies.
Pretty, DFK, tight, 800 incl BBBJ.
Digits upon request.
Got news from one of my local friends that Red Sun Sauna (Hong (2) tai (4) yang (2) xi (2) yu (4), Chinese pinyin) reopened again and some gorgeous young ladies out there. I'm planning to try them out late this week. Yan (4) jiao (1) has been a good place for me.
Hi Had sent a PM as you offered, may be you still traveling.
Thanks, Gregory.
During the years 2005-2010 I spend every Christmas Eve in Maggies and flew to the states the next day. Always a Mongolian 'f'mas.
Last week went down memory lane in Beijing and was saddened by the size, age, and attitude of the tribe remnants in Maggies. Sigh.
Spent most of the week on Wechat screening offers and negotiating prices. Centro was busy with overpriced but hot Chinese. Had one memorable evening with a Sichuan 25 year old who apparently lives in Hebei and travels to Beijing for weekend subsidies.
Pretty, DFK, tight, 800 incl BBBJ.
Digits upon request.
Hey there,
Been surfing this site quite a lot but never posted yet.
I just joined up and will share some of my findings soon.
I live in the US but travel regularly to Shanghai and Beijing.
Had some success in Judy's and Manhattan's.
In Beijing mainly had some outcalls from Kitty (a couple good and a couple not so good) and a couple of massage visits.
Recently been in touch with a freelancer but not met yet.
Will share here when I do as she is very hot.
I've also tried we chat and a but no real success yet.
Anyways I'm glad to be on board!
I'd like to let you guys know more about these outcall agencies. I've been living in Beijing for many years and I speak mandarin very well and I have many local friends here and I've been using all these outcall agencies for many years, so I know more about how they operate their business. Yes, that's right sometimes you will get the same ladies from different agencies but these outcall agencies definitely don't share the same pool because in fact, there're many many pools, big or small, that source the ladies for these agencies. So how many ladies an outcall agency has on hand depends upon how big it builds up a network for itself. From my experiences, Kitty has the biggest network, far bigger than any other agencies' because for the past 7 years I've got over 100 different ladies from Kitty. Never had so many ladies from any other agencies. Most of them have actually just a few on hand.
ChinBro.
BTW, it is easy for her to say she has many ladies, but usually you will choose only one, so unless you have seen them all (more than 10) I would take that with a grain of salt. Just a marketing ploy me thinks?
Believe me, there is a company that sources the girls and then Kitty, Lily, Angel etc. Act as agents. If you use these agents enough you will encounter the same girls, often using a different name.
To share real contacts and names you better do that "for your eyes only" out of fairness to the contact.
Its only 20 bucks.
Look forward to your freelancer then.
Gregory.
Hey there,
Been surfing this site quite a lot but never posted yet.
I just joined up and will share some of my findings soon.
I live in the US but travel regularly to Shanghai and Beijing.
Had some success in Judy's and Manhattan's.
In Beijing mainly had some outcalls from Kitty (a couple good and a couple not so good) and a couple of massage visits.
Recently been in touch with a freelancer but not met yet.
Will share here when I do as she is very hot.
I've also tried we chat and a but no real success yet.
Anyways I'm glad to be on board!
Midwestern
01-06-16, 10:20
I reviewed the forum, but since this is a new hotel, I couldn't find any info. Thanks, fellas.
Midwestern
01-06-16, 11:03
By the way, this is the first time that I am unable to get an in-room massage at any Marriott in China. I've always been able to get in-room massages and then pay extra (usually a lot extra) for he. I was expecting to do the same this time, but was surprised that in-room massages were not available at JW Marriott in Beijing.
I reviewed the forum, but since this is a new hotel, I couldn't find any info. Thanks, fellas.
Midwestern
01-07-16, 12:47
By the way, this is the first time that I am unable to get an in-room massage at any Marriott in China. I've always been able to get in-room massages and then pay extra (usually a lot extra) for he. I was expecting to do the same this time, but was surprised that in-room massages were not available at JW Marriott in Beijing..I discovered that in-room massage is available. I got it, and no hint that extras were available. I'm just leaving this info here for future reference in case anyone ever needs info on this hotel. One other note: you need a key card to use the elevator, so if you order in-call, then you'll have to meet the girl in the lobby.
Drove to Red Sun Sauna the night before last, around 45 minutes distance from Guo Mao. Arrived at around 9 pm. Got in from the back door after parking my car in front of the building. Chose Ai Lin from a lineup in the hall and she took me into a room with a big mirror on the wall through a secret door. 20 years old, around 5'5" in height, nice skin, very good figure with medium firm breasts. 2 minutes BBBJ and then directly into action. Did the deed after trying a few positions. Nothing to complain.
ChinBro.
Got news from one of my local friends that Red Sun Sauna (Hong (2) tai (4) yang (2) xi (2) yu (4), Chinese pinyin) reopened again and some gorgeous young ladies out there. I'm planning to try them out late this week. Yan (4) jiao (1) has been a good place for me.
Total damage was 630 rmb, 10 rmb of entry fee, 20 rmb for clothes, the rest for the session. Ai Lin told me a good news that her younger sister will be coming after the Spring Festival, so I'm looking forward to a good threesome with them.
Drove to Red Sun Sauna the night before last, around 45 minutes distance from Guo Mao. Arrived at around 9 pm. Got in from the back door after parking my car in front of the building. Chose Ai Lin from a lineup in the hall and she took me into a room with a big mirror on the wall through a secret door. 20 years old, around 5'5" in height, nice skin, very good figure with medium firm breasts. 2 minutes BBBJ and then directly into action. Did the deed after trying a few positions. Nothing to complain.
ChinBro.
Jude Bright
01-10-16, 19:10
Drove to Red Sun Sauna the night before last, around 45 minutes distance from Guo Mao. Arrived at around 9 pm. Got in from the back door after parking my car in front of the building. Chose Ai Lin from a lineup in the hall and she took me into a room with a big mirror on the wall through a secret door. 20 years old, around 5'5" in height, nice skin, very good figure with medium firm breasts. 2 minutes BBBJ and then directly into action. Did the deed after trying a few positions. Nothing to complain.
ChinBro.Hi Bro.
I have a question. Why do you enter from the back door while you parked in front? Is it because you know someone inside who allow you to get FS? I was there two years ago and they only provide legit massage.
JB.
Patagonia78
01-11-16, 04:25
Hi, PB2000, have sent you a private message containing Kitty's WeChat and phone number, and Grace's. I had both in the past few days, 2 shots session with one of Kitty's girl named Xiao Xiao, and overnight session with Grace, who is an independent girl. Both were very good, so I recommend them to you. But I'm planning to explore a bit more if I've got any chance. Chubbycat and Aimee stay on the menu during the next two days. Let's see how it works. Again, thanks so much for your help, Gregory.
VP.Hi!
Newbie to Beijing and the forum. I'm visiting there in a week and from what I've read Grace is worth connecting with. Can someone PM me her contact details? I would also take any other advice on independents with BBBJ, good attitude, and generally everything else most of us like in a punt!
Red Sun Sauna was renovated and now you can get legit massage services from the main entrance on the right side of the building, but to get FS you'll have to enter from the back door because no other doors available for safety. Yes, I went along with one of local friends but next time I think I can go there by myself. By the way, you better speak mandarin because seems nobody speaks English, and some of the ladies don't take western guys.
ChinBro.
Hi Bro.
I have a question. Why do you enter from the back door while you parked in front? Is it because you know someone inside who allow you to get FS? I was there two years ago and they only provide legit massage.
JB.
I will arrive Beijing Friday afternoon. I will be at Maggies Friday night if anybody w.
Ants to meet for a beer.
Picked a nice local at a well known hotel bar on the 3rd ring road, she showed us a wonderful pair of boobs inside the bar, German speaker, bring her at my 5*hotel with my friend, no questions at lobby even no other guests around and she was very noisy. Laid down all together and I finished her. A bit crazy and noisy but manageable if you know locals. Prayed for kissing, started screaming as she wanted to stop, and then started biting and got excited. Mainly missionary and DATY. Loved it, a bit noisy night but well done! ST but great. Set back 900*2.
Jude Bright
01-13-16, 17:35
Red Sun
ChinBro.Thanks for the clarification. I am a Chinese-American and next time I am in Beijing, the coming April, I may need your guidance.
Jb.
Bad Boy Billy
01-13-16, 21:58
I will arrive Beijing Friday afternoon. I will be at Maggies Friday night if anybody w.
Ants to meet for a beer.Canada. Howie - you guys need to get together. You are both in BJ Fri night. It is Howie's first visit to Beijing - Honey may have a friend or 2 for him - certainly not Emma. I gave Howie 3 numbers for Sara but I don't know which one she uses - he also has Uggi's number - you might steer him around Maggies Canada - Howie Canada will help you out - whatever you do talk to Uggi - I think she will be your type and she will give you a ride you will never forget - sorry I cannot be there to join in the fun guys.
Hi!
Newbie to Beijing and the forum. I'm visiting there in a week and from what I've read Grace is worth connecting with. Can someone PM me her contact details? I would also take any other advice on independents with BBBJ, good attitude, and generally everything else most of us like in a punt!Same here, new to Beijing and the forum. Would love to get Grace's info as well as other independent providers'. PM me if you have any good suggestions.
Thanks a bunch!
Sebastiane
01-16-16, 21:43
Hi,
I just got offered a job in Beijing. I have some time to think about it of course and one of the things I need to consider if how easy and good quality Beijing is for P4P (and freebies). I'm from Germany so used to FKKs (see my reports on here).
I will read this thread in detail but with over 11000 posts its going to take some time! So I'd be grateful if someone can tell me about the main types of P4P. Also, is being brown a negative (especially for freebies)? What are the major ways of P4P here? What are the costs? As a start, are there any reputable escort agencies? Is it legal?
Thanks
Midwestern
01-17-16, 04:05
Hi,
I just got offered a job in Beijing. I have some time to think about it of course and one of the things I need to consider if how easy and good quality Beijing is for P4P (and freebies). I'm from Germany so used to FKKs (see my reports on here).
I will read this thread in detail but with over 11000 posts its going to take some time! So I'd be grateful if someone can tell me about the main types of P4P. Also, is being brown a negative (especially for freebies)? What are the major ways of P4P here? What are the costs? As a start, are there any reputable escort agencies? Is it legal?
ThanksP4 P is not legal in China, but it's everywhere. For incall in Beijing, Kitty's agency is reliable. You can find her info in classified ads. I've ordered several dozen gals from her. Her gals are usually punctual, don't upsell, don't rush, and usually somewhere between a 4 and 7. Usual fee is 700-800 RMB, I think. Don't tip. There are little brothels (BBSs) everywhere, but those are 5-minute wham-bam sessions, about 300 RMB. Many MPs offer extras, especially in Wangjing and Chaoyang. You got to read the forum to find those. If you insist on MPs with English speaking mamasan, like Sophie's or Lemon, then it's going to cost a lot more. Finally, never ever EVER follow a tout.
Member #3132
01-17-16, 05:33
Here is a question about safety issue, I keep hearing people use outcall service like lily or kitty's, at the same time, there are news or even video post online about LE going after girls all the way to true international 5 star hotels. So I am really confused.
Do any bro have encountered, or know for sure, any case, that someone is caught in a real 5 star international chain hotel? Or the news were just to scare us?
Got news from one of my local friends that Red Sun Sauna (Hong (2) tai (4) yang (2) xi (2) yu (4), Chinese pinyin) reopened again and some gorgeous young ladies out there. I'm planning to try them out late this week. Yan (4) jiao (1) has been a good place for me.Thanks for the info. Was hoping you could share the location. If you're looking for a partner to out there with this weekend I'd love to tag along.
Thank you.
Thanks for the info. Was hoping you could share the location. If you're looking for a partner to out there with this weekend I'd love to tag along.
Thank you.If you type the name in ping yin into a map app, the place will come up. It's about an hour south east of Beijing.
FernandoAlonso
01-23-16, 04:43
If you type the name in ping yin into a map app, the place will come up. It's about an hour south east of Beijing.I tried this and got a place in Tangshan as nearest hit to Beijing. Not sure which map app you use but neither Pin Yin nor English produced a result in google maps and Apples Maps. From reading your posts it seems this place is located in Yanjiao, about an hour East of Beijing but not easy to get to without own transportation (search for options to get there on this forum).
Now this seems an interesting place but it is indeed a bit difficult to get to and maybe not suited for the non-mandarin speaking noob or typical business traveller.
Thanks for finding and reporting, if I ever find the exact location and a reasonable means of transportation will surely try it out.
FA.
FernandoAlonso
01-23-16, 04:53
Hi,
I just got offered a job in Beijing. I have some time to think about it of course and one of the things I need to consider if how easy and good quality Beijing is for P4P (and freebies). I'm from Germany so used to FKKs (see my reports on here).
I will read this thread in detail but with over 11000 posts its going to take some time! So I'd be grateful if someone can tell me about the main types of P4P. Also, is being brown a negative (especially for freebies)? What are the major ways of P4P here? What are the costs? As a start, are there any reputable escort agencies? Is it legal?
ThanksBro,
If your decision to accept a job offer here is based on the same amount of effort as your p4 p "research" I wish you good luck. China is especially these days very difficult for foreigner to work, especially newbies. You better get a clear picture first. This includes some research and work. Beijing is among the most difficult and expensive p4 p locations at the moment and there is racial based prejudice in the Chinese society. Finding this out takes about 5 minutes of Google expat plus China.
This is not meant as offence even if it sounds like it but if you come to China for work under the impression you give here you are bound for a very bad surprise.
Speaking from experience. Prepare yourself, weigh your strategic options and future planning. Then decide. If only for p4 p Germany is cheaper, safer and better in almost every way.
Good luck.
FA.
Bro,
If your decision to accept a job offer here is based on the same amount of effort as your p4 p "research" I wish you good luck. China is especially these days very difficult for foreigner to work, especially newbies. You better get a clear picture first. This includes some research and work. Beijing is among the most difficult and expensive p4 p locations at the moment and there is racial based prejudice in the Chinese society. Finding this out takes about 5 minutes of Google expat plus China.
This is not meant as offence even if it sounds like it but if you come to China for work under the impression you give here you are bound for a very bad surprise.
Speaking from experience. Prepare yourself, weigh your strategic options and future planning. Then decide. If only for p4 p Germany is cheaper, safer and better in almost every way.
Good luck.
FA.This is VERY good advice indeed.
Hi guys,
Last week I was in Beijing. Through the wechat look around function I was contacted by a Mongolian girl. We made a deal 2 hours, 2 shots, 1200 rmb. I thought that was a bit pricey, but OK.
Before meeting her, I but some condoms of a well known brand.
She arrives at the hotel, we take a shower and she already then comments that I have Chinese condoms, and that they will be tight. Anyway first round works, but the second round I think the condom is really uncomfortable. She is at this point very horny, but I am still shocked by her answer 'Take it off and fuck me without'.
I still have a working brain and do not accept, and manage to complete the second round.
However I thought I'd check if there are some recommendations on what condoms to buy in China.
Moth To Flames
01-23-16, 16:00
Jenny Lou's have imported condoms such as Trojans, and I'd hazard a guess that this means other imported goods stores do to. Well done on not giving in to temptation and going bareback.
Just landed a $$ bonus and GF is out of country lately so I have been hitting the Spas, BBS, Massage parlors.
Location 1: Chun Xiu Road south across from bus stop in front of the big shopping mall. Only one small room in back. There are 3 shops each with about 5 ladies. BBJ for 200, FS for 300. Service is too pro, pants was not even down when ho started sucking. Cloths do not even come off, ho just sits right on top and start riding. Can grab tits but clothing still on.
Location 2: Chao Yang Bei Road 100 meters east of first subway station on right side. Lots of massage parlors there, BBJ 300, girls are younger in their early 20's, some 30's, takes their time. CIM, real nice and slow service, well slow is about 20 minutes for me. There are too many for me even to tell you which specific one to try as they all offer the same service..Hi guys,
Lived in BJ until 2011. Back then Tuanjiehu area was my hunting ground, with plenty of BBS. 100 RMB for a HJ.
Good old times, been there last year again, not the same any more. Almost no shops left and got quoted absurd.
So I really want to check out Location 2 next time in BJ. I just wondering if I got it right? So it is all the way to the east where Subway and Chaoyang and. Rd. Separating?
I will report.
Thanks.
I tried this and got a place in Tangshan as nearest hit to Beijing. Not sure which map app you use but neither Pin Yin nor English produced a result in google maps and Apples Maps. From reading your posts it seems this place is located in Yanjiao, about an hour East of Beijing but not easy to get to without own transportation (search for options to get there on this forum).
Now this seems an interesting place but it is indeed a bit difficult to get to and maybe not suited for the non-mandarin speaking noob or typical business traveller.
Thanks for finding and reporting, if I ever find the exact location and a reasonable means of transportation will surely try it out.
FA.Just type the pinyin and you should be able to recognize the Chinese characters for red and bath. You got the location right.
Hi guys,
One of my friends told me he saw some crazy KTV action on adults sites. Something like girls dancing completely naked and Chinese guys fucking them while other are watching and taking videos with their smartphones, stupid! Anyone experienced something like it in BJ or any other city?
FreebieFan
01-27-16, 04:38
Hi,
I just got offered a job in Beijing. I have some time to think about it of course and one of the things I need to consider if how easy and good quality Beijing is for P4P (and freebies). I'm from Germany so used to FKKs (see my reports on here).
I will read this thread in detail but with over 11000 posts its going to take some time! So I'd be grateful if someone can tell me about the main types of P4P. Also, is being brown a negative (especially for freebies)? What are the major ways of P4P here? What are the costs? As a start, are there any reputable escort agencies? Is it legal?
ThanksFreebies are everywhere and like all over Asia have to initiate a chat and move it from there. There are some who might care about your skin colour and many others who don't. There certainly are many with some well entrenched prejudices here about anyone and everyone who isn't either from China, or from their particluar part of China but the trial and error part of things goes well. And often the most unnssuming of girls could harbour porn star imagination. Saturday night, a gal I know from Tianjin came over. We had met once when she had expressed an interest in being bitten. This time she wanted to be spanked hard, tied up and bitten hard. And she looks like a normal mousy student. So, as with anywhere, if you arrive, get a few chap apps, dating site links and get talking. Its reaps great rewards.
Burn Notice
02-09-16, 08:24
First post!
Heard about the blog from one of your fellow members one evening at Maggies last week! If you read this, anytime mate!
I read some of you have the nostalgia of the years between 2000 and 2011 when you could hunt in many bars (HRC, HJB, TheD, P&W,G&the, Centro, Holly, Choco and of course Maggies near WS). I agree with you it was the years of abundance where supply of high end beauty was always exceeding demands.
Now I am back in Beijing since July last year. What a shock! From the list, 3 bars remains. The rest well if you read this thread you know they are no longer.
Personally, I am a hunter! I love to go to a bar, get comfortable, have a great spot and watch the girls come in. Then, I observe and I spot the one I want and I make a move. In the years of abundance, you could take your time because when you thought you had spotted a gorgeous one, one more stunning was just walking through the door.
Since July last year, I picked up at least 30 girls in Beijing (about 1 per week but I went out at least 3 times a week). That means many nights it was not worth it to pick up any girls! It would never happened in the 2000,s years.
Conclusion: supply of high end beauties is definitely lower then demands. It affects the price, the availability and the service. Does that mean there is less beautiful girls being hookers in BJ? Answer is NO, there is more I believe. So why this drop of supply then? Based on my very extensive wikipedia / econometrics survey, the answer: wechat and Chinese new rich.
Let me tell you how I came to that conclusion.
One evening at Maggies there is this absolutely gorgeous Mongolian girl, very tall, dress like a Hollywood red carpet starlet, walked in to come talk to another girl sitting at the bar. They talked for few minutes exchange something and then she walked right away out without even removing her jacket. I asked the girl sitting at the bar why her friend was leaving already she just got there. She start laughing and she said she doesn't need to come to the bar anymore, she has many client on wechat. I asked if she doesn't come to the bar where she finds her client? She start to talk about these Chinese guys very rich and young that comes to Beijing from Shanghai, Shenzhen and other places. All the top girls, Russian, Mongolian, Indonesian, Ukrainians gets recruit by two Chinese guys and they do business on wechat. The girl I was talking to, she was doing threesome with the gorgeous one when she need it because she never stay long enough in BJ to be part of the network.
I asked her how does that pay? Answer: depends on what they want. For a party (orgy) is 10000 rmb, for a weekend 12000, for holiday in Thailand or other beach 5000 per day. They don't do ST its on package.
I asked if I could get the wechat ID of her friend and she gave it to me. I sent her a greeting right there on the spot and she accepted it right away and replied. I asked if she was available and she said only Monday evening. I asked how much she charge and her answer was! If you ask its probably to expensive for you Bye bye!
What a shocker! I Just got blown away!
That being said, there is a network which is systematically removing from the scene the hottest girls in Beijing for a private and growing circle of rich Chinese who do not hesitate to pay these girls top dollars. Foreigners use to be the target of the hot babe, now its the new rich from China.
But do not get discourage by this. There is still once a while a beauty that walks in. I picked up very pretty Mongolian girls over the last few months at Maggies. They stay usually only few days or week before heading to Hong Kong (Harris) , then they come back to BJ for a week and back to Mongolia.
Although there is chocolate that could provide some interesting blonde and blue eyes, they are pretty dry in bed, forget about GFE with them, you enjoy a barbie. Maggie's still remain the best place to find a GFE. My best nights in Beijing are with Mongolian girls. If you are friendly with them, learn about Mongolia (they really like it when you know their country), make them comfortable you gone have a great time. They are not checking the time, if she is Comfortable (keyword) she will stay with you. Usually a good looking Mongolian will start her negotiation at around 2000 to 3000 rmb depending on her look (ST) . Of couse that's their starting price now its up to you to lower down that price. But, some of the girl do leave the place with a crazy deal like 3000 rmb for ST because some of the guys are totally out of their mind or rich. A good looking Mongolian with a good body, if you get her below 1500 will give you a bing bang badaboom service and will be back at Maggies to get another one before the nights end. So far when I paid 1500 , bring her back to my place, make her feel comfortable with a glass of wine or other beverage, get her to talk about family, their country, what they want to do, where they want to go etc. They get very comfy. Now you have a Girlfriend and so far all but one stayed all night. One stayed the entire weekend.
Final thought, Beijing is no longer what it was. Competition is tough, supply channels are limited and private networks of rich guys are drying the scene. The girls in bars, they have daily money goals to achieve and its not below 1000 for sure its around 1500 per day. For the high end, its a lot more then that.
Of course there is many other ways to get sex in China but my hunting ground is Bar, I love the hunt and finding that pearl. A bit more costly but more satisfying.
First post!
Final thought, Beijing is no longer what it was. Competition is tough, supply channels are limited and private networks of rich guys are drying the scene. The girls in bars, they have daily money goals to achieve and its not below 1000 for sure its around 1500 per day. For the high end, its a lot more then that.
Of course there is many other ways to get sex in China but my hunting ground is Bar, I love the hunt and finding that pearl. A bit more costly but more satisfying.Great post and great intel; I've only been fortunate enough to play in Beijing a small handful of times, and even I was pretty late to the party with my first trip in 2010; but even then it was much more fun than the last time I went (in 2014).
Sounds like just one more reason to root for the impending implosion of China's bubble economy!
Bro,
If your decision to accept a job offer here is based on the same amount of effort as your p4 p "research" I wish you good luck. China is especially these days very difficult for foreigner to work, especially newbies. You better get a clear picture first. This includes some research and work. Beijing is among the most difficult and expensive p4 p locations at the moment and there is racial based prejudice in the Chinese society. Finding this out takes about 5 minutes of Google expat plus China.
This is not meant as offence even if it sounds like it but if you come to China for work under the impression you give here you are bound for a very bad surprise.
Speaking from experience. Prepare yourself, weigh your strategic options and future planning. Then decide. If only for p4 p Germany is cheaper, safer and better in almost every way.
Good luck.
FA.Let me tell you, trying to connect in the 80's with Chinese living abroad, and living here since 2002, my expertise on the subject is that Chinese belong to the top 5 racists folks on the planet.
(Don't ask me who are the 4 others, I don't know and don't care to know).
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