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Ascanio

09-17-07, 10:59

First of all I was quite satisfied about the night before, so I wasn't feel the need to unload my self.

At 11:30 pm I went to the Hollywood with this sense of fullness. I arrived there by driving the taxi from maggies to there. It’easy to arrive there. I got inside and it was "sleazy". Quite empty.

I took my jack’s with ice so a nice Pakistan girl went to me asking why I seated alone. I say because I came alone. She was dressed as a Arabian dancer. So in my mind I was thinking How I get her inside the hotel. The security first will start to laugh and after will stop her telling there is no ballet tonight. I’m not kidding this is what was going to happen going with her to the hotel.

So I told her that I don’t want woman tonight. She was really nice, I could say a good 8’s even if she was not tall.

All the Russian that were there I didn’t like at all. Probably because I was too sober and with this sense of fullness.

So after 10 minutes I left to go to hard rock café. The same sleazy impression. It was 12:30 am so few peoples. 2 Chinese girls come telling me to have a 3some. I said no like 10 times. When I was to the limit I said: Girls you are losing your time here. I’m a gigolo". Nobody knows the meaning anyway I left after fews minutes and I went by foot to the hotel.

A lot of people asking me if I need girls or massage during the road back, be carefull and always say NO.

No money spent tonight, but feel happy anyway.

The problem to be alone going to these kind of places sometimes is that if is late and empty everybody is looking at you, and I don’t like that.

Anyway here we are.

P.S. I organize for tomorrow a trip to the great wall with a nice female concierge in the hotel, she tells me she will call me in my room to give me some details. I didn’t understand if I can try with her. I will understand soon.

For day 3 the program is some turistic stuff and a good massage by Regency.

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Beijingrichard

09-17-07, 11:05

I can be a real moron sometimes. It's 50 meters south of the north end of the street. Sorry.

However, being primed up for some action, I headed out to another that I had noticed recently and was very happy I did. LongBao 龙堡 is on MinZu DaXue XiLu 民族大学西路, although their card shows a different address. It's 50 meters north of the south end of the road, about 1km east of XiSan Huan (West 3rd ring.) Although the term may be overused, I truly believe that you can not miss it. It looks like a large, pink Italian villa, complete with statues

NY Buttman

09-17-07, 18:41

I've got a guy who PMed me, complaining about my Beijing info on Russians, insisting that he can get 2 shots ST for $160 US with top-drawer Russians in NYC. I'm thinking, "sounds great, maybe the Movie Star moved to NY?" Funny thing was, when I asked for something concrete, he said he couldn't just tell me, they don't accept newbies, so he would have to take me in person and he that can't do that. Go figure.

I hate NY. Long Live Beijing!

NBG

NY happens to be my stomping ground, and I can assure you there is no way you can get top notch Russian girls for $160 for two pops. It doesn't matter which side of Brookyn bridge you are talking about. I actually stopped mongering in NY few years ago when I realized you can get so much more over seas. Top notch beauties in NY fetch $500 - $1000 and upward for one pop. 5yrs ago it was $200 for one pop for average looking girls. Girls were of quality that I wouldn't even consider doing at this point, after seeing all these beautiful Russians in Moscow, German FKKs, and Beijing.

Wonderer

09-17-07, 19:52

Ascanio,

I had similar experiences when in Beijing last week (September 12-15). The Hollywood was a turn-off. When I arrived on September 13 and 14 perhaps around 11 PM, there were a number of girls (I assume mostly Russians), but very inactive. I had the impression they are only after the Chinese customers. When I watched a bit, the Chinese seem to go with the girls and have a quickie. I.e. the girl can come back and make more business on the same evening. The Westerners are more spoiled, i.e. the girl has to perform better and spend more time. This is no good for making money. But given this attitude, I was quite a bit turned off by the atmosphere.

On September 13 I met a Polish girl at the Hollywood. She was quite nice and we had a good chat, without any pressure. But she was not my style. Therefore, I headed for the HRC on that evening. There, I met a Chinese girl, 30 years old. Pretty much average look, but when I took her to my hotel, she turned out to be a volcano. She must have had no sex for centuries, and we had a great time. Sometimes, we are just lucky and make the right choice.

The day before, i.e. on September 12 I was in the Pig at the Holiday Inn Lido. The choice was not bad, and I have taken out a quite pretty Chinese with a big and beautiful rack. But her performance was just average - if I am generous with giving her a score.

In recent years I made the experience that in general, the prettier the girl, the lousier the performance. Of course, there is no rule without exception, but this seems to be the basic trend. I had many fantastic experiences in the past with just average looking girls.

If you'd like to know more details, please PM me.

Wonderer - looking forward to my next visit to Beijing and hunting there...

First of all I was quite satisfied about the night before, so I wasn't feel the need to unload my self.

At 11:30 pm I went to the Hollywood with this sense of fullness. I arrived there by driving the taxi from maggies to there. It’easy to arrive there. I got inside and it was "sleazy". Quite empty.

I took my jack’s with ice so a nice Pakistan girl went to me asking why I seated alone. I say because I came alone. She was dressed as a Arabian dancer. So in my mind I was thinking How I get her inside the hotel. The security first will start to laugh and after will stop her telling there is no ballet tonight. I’m not kidding this is what was going to happen going with her to the hotel.

So I told her that I don’t want woman tonight. She was really nice, I could say a good 8’s even if she was not tall.

All the Russian that were there I didn’t like at all. Probably because I was too sober and with this sense of fullness.

So after 10 minutes I left to go to hard rock café. The same sleazy impression. It was 12:30 am so few peoples. 2 Chinese girls come telling me to have a 3some. I said no like 10 times. When I was to the limit I said: Girls you are losing your time here. I’m a gigolo". Nobody knows the meaning anyway I left after fews minutes and I went by foot to the hotel.

A lot of people asking me if I need girls or massage during the road back, be carefull and always say NO.

No money spent tonight, but feel happy anyway.

The problem to be alone going to these kind of places sometimes is that if is late and empty everybody is looking at you, and I don’t like that.

Anyway here we are.

P.S. I organize for tomorrow a trip to the great wall with a nice female concierge in the hotel, she tells me she will call me in my room to give me some details. I didn’t understand if I can try with her. I will understand soon.

For day 3 the program is some turistic stuff and a good massage by Regency.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Member #3421

09-17-07, 22:46

NY happens to be my stomping ground, and I can assure you there is no way you can get top notch Russian girls for $160 for two pops. It doesn't matter which side of Brookyn bridge you are talking about. I actually stopped mongering in NY few years ago when I realized you can get so much more over seas. Top notch beauties in NY fetch $500 - $1000 and upward for one pop. 5yrs ago it was $200 for one pop for average looking girls. Girls were of quality that I wouldn't even consider doing at this point, after seeing all these beautiful Russians in Moscow, German FKKs, and Beijing.

I should have been more obviously sarcastic in my original post, but you've summarized the sad situation in NYC very nicely Buttman, thank you.

Billy, I'm no fool. Tell Taiwan Guy that I'm banking my hard-earned $$$ slow and steady to avoid detection, antipating the return to the promised land. And I know better than anyone that $160 in NYC won't even get a tug at most AMPs, much less two pops with a Russian. $500-$1000 for an hour with a quality girl (who will probably have a serious attitude)? To rich for my blood. That's worth two weekends of EVERYTHING in Beijing.

Zhuren: as always, your no-holds-barred attitude and sense of humor is appreciated. I'm envious of your situation.

NBG

SidTheSexist

09-18-07, 06:52

Just to expand on my previous post regarding Filipinas in Beijing. As I mentioned, my only experience with them has been freebie play. I prefer Thai and Flippers to chinese any day of the week. I find them so much more fun and better at the whole experience. I've never came across a Fillipina or Thai girl with hairy armpits and legs whereas I am quite often let down in this department with Chinese.
Anyway, you will be amazed at how many young fillipinas there are in Beijing. Its just unfortunate that the majority of them are genuine girls with university degrees, hence looking for genuine work. They typically take on jobs offering 3-5000rmb/month and use most of this to send home to their families. Therefore they are not in the best position to go drinking every night.
I cant really offer any set in stone advice as it quite often comes down to luck, but also, non P4P bars. The Goose and Duck hosts, IMO, the best filipino singer in Beijing, Chris; who plays on weekends from 9pm-12approx. He moves on to the nashville and plays through till about 2am.
The cafe del mar also has a great little PI band playing and the pianist, the short girl, has an amazing talent. I suppose that leaves you with a good selection of PI band and chinese/mongolian girls for P4P in the cafe.
Apart from that, most hotel bars have Filipino/a singers as well as the Sanlitun bars on Sanlitun Bar Street.
Apologies that this does not contain any specifics, but if you want Filipinas or Thais in Beijing, you really have to forget about P4P.
Sid

Willy Worm

09-18-07, 11:48

Manfest

09-18-07, 16:38

Friends. Can anybody give some advise, please? Next month I'll go to China again, would you recommend Beijing or Hong Kong / Shenzhen.

Of course I read many reports and contributions to the forum, but still I don't find a final decision.

Thank you so much!

WW, I'm not certain what you are asking. Rather than saying the usual RTFF, I'll advise you that all three places are completely different from each other, each establishment in each city will vary, the available talent will be different depending on the day and hour, the response to you will not be generalizable, etc., etc. If you asked specific questions, then you may get more accurate help. Your preferences are almost certainly different than mine or other members. What do you mean by asking for a recommendation?

Anyway, read the last 100 pages or so in each city link and then ask the more appropriate question. Then again, it is so easy to enjoy yourself in all three cities that I'm certain you'll enjoy yourself one way or the other.

Beijing Fox

09-18-07, 19:08

Didn't make it to either Manhattan or a sauna, but fortunately ended up at Sakura massage. The girl there had a great technique: Handjob + sucking one nipple + stimulating my asshole. An acrobat! Better than anything I've had for a long time.

Thank you for all of your advice.

Just arrived in Shanghai. Will test the ground tonight, or maybe go to a sauna instead. Still contemplating. :-)

Ontario Boy

09-19-07, 05:20

Friends. Can anybody give some advise, please? Next month I'll go to China again, would you recommend Beijing or Hong Kong / Shenzhen.

Of course I read many reports and contributions to the forum, but still I don't find a final decision.

Thank you so much!

In an earlier post you indicated that you have already spent 8 days in Beijing and had a good time. You seem to have done both the normal tourist things and mongering highlites as you wrote:

CONCLUSION: A great city which provides paramount culture, nice people, outstanding nightlife, wonderful ladies. A PLACE TO GO!

Hong Kong/Shenzhen is very different. First HK is much more expensive then BJ in terms of hotels, food and girls. SZ is cheaper with fewer tourist sites There is a lot of English in HK and lots to do You will have lots of opportunity to meet girls from all over as there are a lot of , Filipinas , Thais, latinos, etc, While they do not have the atmosphere of Maggies places like Fenwick's, Laguna and Neptune 11 are good. Then of course you have the options of the 141 girls, a multitude of saunas , Wanchai/MonKok and of couse Macau is a short trip away.

There are lots of opportunities for freebies and you again can have the chance to find local guides as you did in BJ but in HK they probably will want to go shopping

I could go on but you can get a good idea by checking out the HK thread see this report

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=546191&postcount=4137

Since you have already been to BJ you should try HK and experience it yourself . Have fun

Sparky Boy

09-19-07, 12:40

I went to the chunxiu lu sauna as described on this forum, thanks for the directions. I went during the daytime and i actually walked past it but went back and found it.

Go to the intersection of dong zhi men wai da jie and chun xiu lu, then walk south along chun xiu lu for about 100 metres and it will be on the left (which is east) the front door is a big glass and has a cashiers counter on the left. the entire building is about 4 or 5 storeys tall, u wont miss it. If you have walked to the "red house" then u have walked too far, go back.

The price is 5xx RMB for FS only, ie, no blowjob, licking etc...
6xx RMB for only blowjob, licking etc... but no FS
8xx RMB gets you everything for 80minutes

I was shown a lineup of 4 girls and was told others were busy, i chose 825, she is quite friendly and gives good service but she has no breast, really, im not exagerrating. Other than that, she is provides a friendly service and we tried multiple positions.

I rate her:

7 looks
8 attitude
7.5 service

I also went to the first (walking south on chun xiu lu) BBS on chun xiu lu, you wont miss it, there are 3 very close together. I paid 100 for a handjob in a very small room probably 2.5m x 1m, haha. When you walk in just say tou want tui yo, its chinese for oily handjob, haha, they will know what you mean, they are all dressed in sexy outfits to attract customers. There is no blowjob or FS available in this shop. I didn't try the other BBS.

Take care.

Oreally

09-20-07, 00:30

Ok, I have done the Maggies thing, even if my work schedule is cramped and amount of time off is slim.

I did go to Maggies in the recent past, as I said I would, on the day I said I would, problem is, I did not get there until 3 AM. It closes at 4AM.

So, after a quick walk through, I finally sit near an open spot at the bar, and a stacked Mongolian. After a few drinks and sign language (the music was so loud, we could not hear each other talk), I finally ask one of my co-workers who happened to be there, "what time does the place close" and "where does everyone go from here? "

He replied "yes it is 4 AM and we go to the "DEN" which closes at 6AM. I ask, "do they have breakfast? " He replies "yes".

Well, at 4 AM, the music dies down to a can hear level and I ask the girl (and her friend who recently showed up) if they want to go with me for breakfast.

My buddy asks me if I am going. I say "WE are going", and the girls know where the place is. Taxi, the three of us are there in 10 minutes or so.

Since I have the day off, I order breakfast, ask the girls what they want and drinks for all. They will sell you a bottle of booze, if you want.

We ate, I drank Bloody Marys, they bring you a large mug of tomato juice with Worstchester and Tobasco. My breakfast was good, and we left there happy. Food was inexpensive, booze maybe over priced, but I figured with the three of us, and the food was cheap, the price really evened itself out. Where else we were going to go at 4 AM? .

With traffic, got back to the room 7AM.

3 some in the bed, perpetual smile on my face. We were pretty buzzed from partying so, slept for awhile, the girls in just panties. Both had oversized racks. Nice.

After awhile, had a finger in each twat, on both sides of me. After determining who is the wettest, condom on, bang for awhile, as I am still half buzzed. After I get tired, pull the condom off, she gives me a pretty good BBBJ.

Sleep for awhile.

I wake up maybe an hour and a half later and she has gone to the other room to sleep. But that still leaves me with the other one, faithfully by my side.

After another finger job wake up call, whoops, condom on, bang some more, I am talking 30 or 40 minutes each (those darned condoms), finally pull it off and get a BBBJ with CIM. Nice.

We sleep some more. We wake up about NOON. They say they have to go.

I give them each 800. We kiss and say goodbye.

Called the first one twice since then, if you work 5PM to 6 AM, you can imagine a day and a half (or if you are lucky two and a half) at 800 per DAY for the Mongolians.

On the third try, I even got the "OK you are a preferred customer treatment of 30 minute BBBJ and barebaack pussy" if I wanted. Multiple times. She stayed two nights.

If I wanted.

OK, I will be at Hollywood on the 22nd of Sept. My lust for white girls, for some reason, (unknown to me) has been renewed. Russian in particular. Gotta do it at least once, you know.

Then we will see what happens from there.

See you there?

P

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JoseMarti

09-20-07, 03:14

Landed here late evening and went to Passion with my buddies. It was kind of empty. We were there for about 1 hour having a couple of beers. The take out price was 3000 at about 1am. Don't think I am going for that.

At 2:15 I landed up at Maggies. It was quite packed. Lots of variety. Within 15 mins a narrowed down who it was going to be. We danced a bit had a beer and then decided on 800 for the night.

Her name is Agie

We ended up at my place at 3:15am. I put on some music on my laptop to set the mood a bid. She sat at the laptop and wanted to go to some Mongolian site and then started to chat. Told her politely: No chatting sweetie.

She seemed to linger a bit, not really wanting to get into it. So I lay on the bed and she then took off her jeans and came over. Asked her to join me for a shower, she says No. Ok fine. I head to the shower and come out in 2 mins. She is naked under the sheets except her panties. Now were getting somewhere! So I spread her out, caress her, and kiss her whole body. After about 5 mins, I try to take off her panties and she pulls them back up and says: Lets sleep! HUH!

I say, I didn't bring you here to sleep. She says, Lets sleep. I say, If you want to sleep, go home. So she gets up and says ok and demands her 800. WTF!! Am I missing something? I flatly refuse and tell her I will give her cab money and thats it. She gets dressed and asks for money again. I hand over 100. She says she wants 800. I refuse. Then she mumbles something about the mafia and not letting me get out of my apartment. Is this for real?

She sits on the chair and says she isn't leaving. I say fine and start working on my laptop. 2 mins later she says ok. I hand her the 100 and out she goes.

Does someone know the 1-800 number for the Mongolian complaint center for bad service?

Anybody else have this happen to them?

Hopefully this bad streak will not continue and today will be a better day.

-JM

Dumamay

09-20-07, 06:05

Maybe you could let her chat for a while.

Too much commanding may lead to trouble. I learnt this.

Try another one.

Normally when the girls say sleep, just sleep!

She will get horny soon after 10 minutes

In other cases, you can't sleep. Some just want to pop twice ASAP and get out of your room.

Try again,

JoseMarti

Landed here late evening and went to Passion with my buddies. It was kind of empty. We were there for about 1 hour having a couple of beers. The take out price was 3000 at about 1am. Don't think I am going for that.

At 2:15 I landed up at Maggies. It was quite packed. Lots of variety. Within 15 mins a narrowed down who it was going to be. We danced a bit had a beer and then decided on 800 for the night.

Her name is Agie

We ended up at my place at 3:15am. I put on some music on my laptop to set the mood a bid. She sat at the laptop and wanted to go to some Mongolian site and then started to chat. Told her politely: No chatting sweetie.

She seemed to linger a bit, not really wanting to get into it. So I lay on the bed and she then took off her jeans and came over. Asked her to join me for a shower, she says No. Ok fine. I head to the shower and come out in 2 mins. She is naked under the sheets except her panties. Now were getting somewhere! So I spread her out, caress her, and kiss her whole body. After about 5 mins, I try to take off her panties and she pulls them back up and says: Lets sleep! HUH!

I say, I didn't bring you here to sleep. She says, Lets sleep. I say, If you want to sleep, go home. So she gets up and says ok and demands her 800. WTF!! Am I missing something? I flatly refuse and tell her I will give her cab money and thats it. She gets dressed and asks for money again. I hand over 100. She says she wants 800. I refuse. Then she mumbles something about the mafia and not letting me get out of my apartment. Is this for real?

She sits on the chair and says she isn't leaving. I say fine and start working on my laptop. 2 mins later she says ok. I hand her the 100 and out she goes.

Does someone know the 1-800 number for the Mongolian complaint center for bad service?

Anybody else have this happen to them?

Hopefully this bad streak will not continue and today will be a better day.

-JM

John Lee

09-20-07, 21:30

Ontario Boy and everyone:

could you advise about how to contact freebies in Beijing?

Do you get their contact info online (Which website)?

Bad Boy Billy

09-20-07, 23:41

Sammy - Was I drunk?.......................or was I drunk?

Remember the first night I was in Beijing last visit......................you were in the Pig and had had a fair head start on me........................when I arrived in the Pig I quickly grabbed you and you informed me that 'Newbeijingguy' was actually in the bar at that time BUT you had not caught up with him yet.

I then sent 'Newbeijingguyy' an SMS and held my phone in the air ........................'Newbeijingguy' then saw us and came and made contact with us.

OK now do you remember?

I hope so.....................because shortly after on this night you also introduced me to another guy at the bar and you told me his name was 'Bill Lee' from down south.

I am sure I did not dream this..................and I am sure I was NOT DRUNK......................so my actual question to you is DID YOU..................OR DID YOU NOT......................introduce me to 'Bill Lee' from down south on that night?

Member #3421

09-21-07, 04:20

JoseMarti

09-21-07, 06:23

Went to a KTV somwhere. Don't know exactly where it was. I got the card from the mamasan, but it's all in Chinese. Oh well.

It was a busy night there, the the pickin' were slim but good. My buddies picked out their regular girls. Since it was my first time at this KTV, they gave me a choice of 4. Picked this beautiful girl with straight jet black hair all the way to her ass. NICE!

Drinking, dancing, more drinking more dancing, some tit flashing. Had a blast.
at 2:30am the girl is in my lap and falls asleep....sigh, how cute.

We got totally hammered. Paid the bill and exited. The girls waved us good bye and we went down. 5 mins later they join us in the parking lot. We head over to some 24 hr place to get some food. More booze and some food. Ugh...I'm hurting.

After our 4am snack we head over to my place. Shower change and both of us pass out. At 9am we wake up and I get my happy ending...she changes and leaves.

This was much better then day 1....

Total Damage:
KTV: 2500 RMB
Snack: 135 RMB
Take home KTV Girl: 0 RMB

Sammy_T

09-21-07, 06:47

Sammy_T

09-21-07, 06:56

At 2:15 I landed up at Maggies. It was quite packed. Lots of variety. Within 15 mins a narrowed down who it was going to be. We danced a bit had a beer and then decided on 800 for the night.

Her name is Agie

There are many girls that go by the name of "agie" at Maggies. Sorry you got one of the bad ones. This behivor is certainly not acceptable. One round before falling asleep is certainly not an unreasonable request.

Hope you will give Maggie's another try. If I am available I would be happy to help you locate a good girl, plus I would like to know which Agie pulled this stunt on you.

Send me a PM with your plans.

Sammy

Sammy_T

09-21-07, 07:03

Sauna

Had a slow afternoon yesterday so I decided to check out Regency Massage. It is located in the area of the Sunflower Tower Building, and Dirty Nellies bar. Went in and a Chinese woman who spoke English immediately approached me to ask if I had been there before. I told her no, but I had been to other saunas in Beijing. She told me there is a common bath room, and standard massage room where I can get a “oil massage all over my body”. The cost was 800 RMB. There is also a VIP room that contains a bath, shower, and massage table. Again, “oil massage all over my body” for 1500 RMB. I asked to see the rooms. The common bath room was not truly like a sauna – it did not have the hot tubs, but did have lockers, showers, and a steam room. She then showed me the VIP room. It was nice, with a nice bathroom and common room that had 2 massage tables. She said the massage would be for 90 minutes, but I could stay in the room and rest for up to 3 hours. I did not like the common bath facilities, and the price for the VIP room seemed steep to me, so I decided to pass. She did not offer me any additional discount as I was walking out the door, so I can only assume that she give me her best price.

It was a nice day so I decided to walk around the area. A few blocks over I came across the “Sunshine Golden Top Spa Club”. If you were to exit out of the hard rock and turn left (south), continue past the Great Wall Hotel. Turn left again on the first major street. It will be about a block down on the left side of the street. Very clearly a Spa/Sauna. If you get to the next major intersetcion with a stop light,you have gone too far. According to their business card they have 3 locations in Beijing.

Having no idea about this place I decided to do a little research and check it out. Standard sauna layout – go in, they give you a locker key and take your shoes. In to the locker room, then the common male sauna area. It was very large and nice. Many shower stalls, hot and cool pools, dry sauna rooms as well as steam rooms. They also had the little pool with the tiny fish that will eat your dead skin and an older man providing body scrubs. After taking advantage of all of the sauna services I went upstairs. On the 2nd floor is a buffet room with food (basically all day long from noon until 2 am, with a few 30 minute breaks), and a foot massage room with many recliner chairs, each with their own personal LCD TV. On the 3rd floor were the massage rooms. I was put into a VIP room, but didn’t care as I wanted to check out the complete service. It was a very nice room of 4-5 star hotel standard with 2 twin beds and it’s own bathroom. A female manager came in and asked what I wanted. No English was spoken, but she was able to explain to me that there were 3 levels of massage – 45 minute (aprox 200 RMB), 90 minute (aprox 300 RMB), and 60 minute (aprox 400 RMB). When I asked why the 60 minute massage was more expensive than the 90 minute massage she smiled and made the universal symbol for “hand job”. Ok, I said, I’ll take a 60 minute massage. Off she goes and a slim attractive girl returns. She really did not give me the option to choose someone else, but I would have kept her anyway. She asked me which massage I wanted, and I told her 60 minute. This leads me to believe that all girls will provide all 3 massage types. Started on my back and gave me a very good oil massage. She was wearing a uniform, nothing sexy, but did not prevent me from touching her during the massage and did a good job of rubbing up against me. I did not ask her to take anything off, but in retrospect I do not think this would have been a problem. After she finished my back she asked me to roll over, and finished my front, if you know what I mean :). Very nice HJ, perhaps the best one I have had. After she cleaned up, and basically wanted to cuddle. Up to this point I do not think she thought I spoke any Chinese, so she really did not say anything. I asked her where she was from, ect, and made some simple conversation in Chinese. She was very cuddly and was wanting to continue to “play”. Had I not been totally spent I think things could have gone much further.

Total damage was 692 RMB for around 3 hours total. This included the sauna entrance fee, 2 sodas, a body scrub, pajamas, vip room, and massage. I went in the afternoon, so I am not sure if is their standard rate, or their discounted rate. All-in-all I found the experience very relaxing and worth the money. While I have never tried the Regency, I am certainly glad I did not take their 1500 RMB VIP option.

Sammy

Bad Boy Billy

09-21-07, 07:35

I did introduce you to a friend of mine (a westerner) from South China that speaks good Chinese, but to my knowledge it was not 'Bill Lee' who posts on this board.

OH OK - I am such a dickhead.

I was certain you told me it was 'Bill Lee from down south' - so I actually sent him a message which floored him because he was not in Beijing at that time.

See how a mans 'brain' malfunctions when in a room full of w.h.o.r.e.s - let this be a lesson to all reading this.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO THINK STRAIGHT WHEN IN A BAR FULL OF HOOKERS !!!

WooVictor

09-21-07, 10:02

Hi brothers,

I will stay in the Beijing Regent Hotel within 3 weeks ,this for only one night, I know that this is in a very quit area but someone else as done this booking for me and no way to change, I cant take a taxi ride to other mongering areas due to the evening business dinner and my wife is travelling also with me this time, I only have the chance to visit the hotel Spa late evening or maybe a Chinese bath house or sauna if it’s just next door.

Can someone let me know if extra’s are available in the Rengent Spa or a sauna in the same block . Nothing to find when RTTF under this hotel name or area .

Thanks in advance

John Euro

I've not stayed at the Beijing Regent as it's a new hotel. I've stayed at the Shanghai Regent several times but I don't think its spa offers any special service, though I've never tried it. I suspect you won't get any special service at the BJ Regent spa either.

Your best best is probaby the sauna at the basement of the Tianlun Dynasty Hotel on Wangfujing, which is about two blocks away from the Regent. The Regent concierge should be able to point you in the right direction. Expect some US$200 for full service. Happy hunting.

Mojo888

09-21-07, 12:41

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Went looking for #16 in 419 since seems all the reports tell me she is amazing. But honestly, when she walking in I was like "is this some joke by the senior members? ", but soon I was pleasantly surprised.

#16 has a great personality, fun and relaxed. She was geniunely surprised that she is so talked about on the internet. She was slow and deliberate, you could tell she was a real pro and knew how to control a guy.

She is a real sweet talker, saying how good I must be in the sack since I was so hard, that I was a real lady killer, etc. She even got horny when I started to touch her pussy and breasts. QUOTE]With all the talk about No. 16, I checked her out. WOW she is a sex fiend! Very aggressive, skillful and talks a lot. Very fun time. Her techniques and passion are amazing. I still like 22 and 56 for their prettier bodies and faces, and these two also have high-level skills. I rate 56 as the best as far as body shape and looks. She's quiet and passionate and curioius. But we all have our own likes. It's great to rotate among these 3 stars.

NEW WJ PLACE: For some variety, I would also recommend trying a place with an identical setup to 419. It's is the same WJ NEW CITY complex, north of the area (accross a road) from where 419 is. It's Building 303, Room 104. You'll know you are in the right area if you see that all the buildings have numbers in the 300s. Building 303 is next to a Bank of Communications, down the alley. I went twice recently and had quite pretty girls each time, all better than what I've seen at 419 in terms of looks: 8 and 16. Technique is not as good as 419 star girls, but enjoyable nonetheless. Both these girls have nice personalities and are playful. Price is RMB160.

Ontario Boy

09-21-07, 18:10

Ontario Boy and everyone:

could you advise about how to contact freebies in Beijing?

Do you get their contact info online (Which website)?

You can try Chinese friend Finder for a web site but you have to work at it. Nothing is automatic as it's like dating back in High School and University. I get some interest probably because I am in my 50's and am not threatening . Most freebies are curious and looking for some fun. I make sure the ladies know up front that I am involved and am not looking for a long term friend or relationship. The rest is a combination of luck, timing and you treating every female you meet as a lady .

Most of my freebies find me. I do not usually do bar pickups and will not take anyone out of a bar that I go to regularly. ( exception is Maggies ) In addition I do not take any freebies home as "People talk ".Rule number 1 is not to get involved with anyone that knows your friends or lives close to you. This way in case something goes wrong and you have to push them away there is no comeback.

If you are interested and many times you will not be as not all freebies are attractive the secret is to go slow and let things happen naturally. I will often just take a girl out and then take her home by taxi . When you don't act most will ask if you find them attractive and of course you say they are but were afraid to push too far and nature takes it course..

You never know where they will come from For example :My easiest was a shop assistant who put her number in my pocket while my girlfriend was trying on clothes. I did some "volunteer" English conversation stuff at a couple of English corners and again was given numbers for "coaching" A pickup in Hong Kong stayed for three days and would not take any money A woman sitting next to me on a flight to Shanghai adopted me and was my 24 hr/day guide to Shangahi for four days again without money. She actually paid for most as she was on a vacation herself and did not want to be alone. She joked that her husband told her to have fun

So have fun, keep your eyes open and be careful. There is an old saying that a one eyed man is a king in the land of the blind. As a non threatening middle aged male you are pretty far down the totem pole in the west but in China you are different and a challenge for many.

Lex Moon

09-21-07, 18:50

Ontario Boy is right. It can be surprisingly easy to get freebies if you are not too selective. The quickest one I got was from the elevator ride. Met her and I just say Hi and ask her if she lives in that apartment. She said yes & invited me to her place for a drink. Things proceeded from there. She was an expat living in BJ.
I also noticed that it is easy to get girls phone number. All you need is to ask.
I think 99.9% will give you their number. When you treat them nice and they will be very "nice" to you.

Beijing Fox

09-22-07, 10:53

Thanks for sharing the experience. I'll try it next week.

Sauna

Had a slow afternoon yesterday so I decided to check out Regency Massage. It is located in the area of the Sunflower Tower Building, and Dirty Nellies bar. Went in and a Chinese woman who spoke English immediately approached me to ask if I had been there before. I told her no, but I had been to other saunas in Beijing. She told me there is a common bath room, and standard massage room where I can get a “oil massage all over my body”. The cost was 800 RMB. There is also a VIP room that contains a bath, shower, and massage table. Again, “oil massage all over my body” for 1500 RMB. I asked to see the rooms. The common bath room was not truly like a sauna – it did not have the hot tubs, but did have lockers, showers, and a steam room. She then showed me the VIP room. It was nice, with a nice bathroom and common room that had 2 massage tables. She said the massage would be for 90 minutes, but I could stay in the room and rest for up to 3 hours. I did not like the common bath facilities, and the price for the VIP room seemed steep to me, so I decided to pass. She did not offer me any additional discount as I was walking out the door, so I can only assume that she give me her best price.

It was a nice day so I decided to walk around the area. A few blocks over I came across the “Sunshine Golden Top Spa Club”. If you were to exit out of the hard rock and turn left (south), continue past the Great Wall Hotel. Turn left again on the first major street. It will be about a block down on the left side of the street. Very clearly a Spa/Sauna. If you get to the next major intersetcion with a stop light,you have gone too far. According to their business card they have 3 locations in Beijing.

Having no idea about this place I decided to do a little research and check it out. Standard sauna layout – go in, they give you a locker key and take your shoes. In to the locker room, then the common male sauna area. It was very large and nice. Many shower stalls, hot and cool pools, dry sauna rooms as well as steam rooms. They also had the little pool with the tiny fish that will eat your dead skin and an older man providing body scrubs. After taking advantage of all of the sauna services I went upstairs. On the 2nd floor is a buffet room with food (basically all day long from noon until 2 am, with a few 30 minute breaks), and a foot massage room with many recliner chairs, each with their own personal LCD TV. On the 3rd floor were the massage rooms. I was put into a VIP room, but didn’t care as I wanted to check out the complete service. It was a very nice room of 4-5 star hotel standard with 2 twin beds and it’s own bathroom. A female manager came in and asked what I wanted. No English was spoken, but she was able to explain to me that there were 3 levels of massage – 45 minute (aprox 200 RMB), 90 minute (aprox 300 RMB), and 60 minute (aprox 400 RMB). When I asked why the 60 minute massage was more expensive than the 90 minute massage she smiled and made the universal symbol for “hand job”. Ok, I said, I’ll take a 60 minute massage. Off she goes and a slim attractive girl returns. She really did not give me the option to choose someone else, but I would have kept her anyway. She asked me which massage I wanted, and I told her 60 minute. This leads me to believe that all girls will provide all 3 massage types. Started on my back and gave me a very good oil massage. She was wearing a uniform, nothing sexy, but did not prevent me from touching her during the massage and did a good job of rubbing up against me. I did not ask her to take anything off, but in retrospect I do not think this would have been a problem. After she finished my back she asked me to roll over, and finished my front, if you know what I mean :). Very nice HJ, perhaps the best one I have had. After she cleaned up, and basically wanted to cuddle. Up to this point I do not think she thought I spoke any Chinese, so she really did not say anything. I asked her where she was from, ect, and made some simple conversation in Chinese. She was very cuddly and was wanting to continue to “play”. Had I not been totally spent I think things could have gone much further.

Total damage was 692 RMB for around 3 hours total. This included the sauna entrance fee, 2 sodas, a body scrub, pajamas, vip room, and massage. I went in the afternoon, so I am not sure if is their standard rate, or their discounted rate. All-in-all I found the experience very relaxing and worth the money. While I have never tried the Regency, I am certainly glad I did not take their 1500 RMB VIP option.

Sammy

JoseMarti

09-22-07, 10:57

So tonight I went to Suze Wongs. Was there last year too. Good music, interesting people.

Went with my friends at around 11pm. Had drinks and chatted. At about 12:30 one of my buddies called over his friends from Passion. Three showed up. Sweet. We had a great time drinking and dancing. Good fun.

Let the girls go before we headed home.

Got home at 4am.

Total Damage: Cost of drinks.

I think I want to make Saturday night a little more adventurous.

WayneGrow

09-22-07, 18:13

Went to Wangjing Xiyuan Building 417 today and tried the service of the MP in Room 112. Their number is displayed in the window of the first floor. There was a selection of two girls at that time, both sexy and good looking, 8 on the scale. They will take you upstairs into an apartment, there you can have a shower. The girl I chose was kind of a looker, but the service was bad. Fake moaning and wanted me to come as soon as possible, also used gliding cream. There was definitely no chemistry between us. They usually serve Korean customers.The girls will lett you finger and DATY, but the service is really bad. I won't go there again. Damage for 45mins is 300 RMB. Will try 419 next time, although I read that FS is not an option there.

Is there a place like that in the Guoamao or Chaoyang Park area?

Kalibugan

09-22-07, 18:27

Just came back from the sauna/spa at Chunxiu Lu, the directions given were deadon. The place was practically empty when i walk-in past 9pm, after spending few minutes in the sauna i hit the shower then went back to the locker area. I turned down the customary expensive pj's and told the boy in my poor mandarin that i wanted a massage at level 4. The boy showed me the stairs, up i went in a flash. At level 4 reception counter another boy ask me what type of service i want, i told him i wanted the 5xx. He took me to a room with a queen size bed, ask if i wanted some beer. Soon the girls started arriving in their pink uniforms, first batch was a bunch of 4-5s. Dismissed them and told the boy i wanted someone slim and sexy not a bunch of ladies with bigger muscles than me. The next batch were 8s, choose a high cheek bone girl with soft milky skin from hunan. She reminds me of Coco Lee, only with bigger racks.

She came back with a small bag and a plastic basin with warm water, before starting off she ask me what type of service i wanted, 5xx of course! As i lay down watching her undress -ay caramba! i forgot all about the 5xx, no sense wasting such a fine female specimen.

Massage started the usual way, by the time i was on my back - at the back of my mind i'm hearing the bell in a boxing match with the announcer saying - let's get ready to rumble! Down she goes, I'd be a fool to past a BBBJ from Coco Lee. Like a coach giving his player instructions, i told her where to lick me. It was so heavenly that i returned the compliment DATY. Released my load even before i had sex with her (that was one expensive bj but well worth it). She then continued massaging me, ask her if she does outcall. Yes, 200RMB, 600RMB, or 800RMB was her answer, depending on what i want her to do.

Overall massage was very nice, Coco was very accomodating. At first she was faking it, but i did manage to make her come twice before me (maybe i should be charging her for it).

Total damage 9xx including a couple of beer and bottle of mineral water for Coco.

Mao Dun

09-23-07, 01:06

Gentlemen:

I don't often post because I don't have much to offer, but I have a question that I think some of you may be in a position to answer. I've been exploring banwan.com for a few months, called a few of the girls, and I'm noticing a somewhat disturbing pattern. Before I go on, I did do a search in this thread for banwan, but did not come up with much, although I remember reading posts about it in the past.

If you go to banwan.com and look at the offerings in Beijing, they all have stunning model-like photos, and on their profiles they all say they are from Chongqing and range in age from 18-21. There are about 20 profiles like this in Beijing, and almost no other variations. In other places like Shanghai and Guangzhou you get all kinds of girls and they offer photos that look authentic (i.e., a number of different shots of varying quality of the same girl in different settings). The Beijing profiles often have 20-30 copies of the same cover-girl shot in their photo gallery and nothing else. I have even seen two different profiles with the same photo. I have called some of these girls, and they almost always tell me to go to their place, 400 rmb for a shot, and that I should first go to Andingmen and then call them. One of these girls admitted that the photo on her profile was fake, but the info was accurate.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but this is starting to look like a police trap or something. Why would they all be the same age from Chongqing for 400rmb and all tell you to go to Andingmen? Somehow 400rmb sounds pretty cheap for an 18 year old from Chongqing, unless she's really unattractive. The only other possibility is that someone from Chongqing is running a brothel around there. Anyway, I just wanted to see whether other guys in Beijing have recently tried one of these providers so i know whether it's safe to go ahead.

In the absence of advice, my plan was to call one of them out to a neutral zone like Starbucks, and/or have them come meet me at a hotel room. I've seen stories of guys getting shaken down here before, and I tend to be kind of an idiot, so I wanted to check.

Otherwise, if it's for real, then it looks like a great resource!

Three cheers for the Beijing forum community, and to Jackson, I am an avid reader and have learned a lot, and I look forward to the day when I can give you some reports.

Mao Dun

JoseMarti

09-23-07, 09:22

So here I was, 12:30am at Maggies. It's a little too early to get your LT so decided to sit at the bar and caress a bottle of wine for 2 hours. I already had a good buzz going even before I got here.

So, this time I said to myself. Need to find myself a nice one that won't turn into a disaster like last time. Watched and watched. And then I saw here....she was at the end of the bar near the entrance. If anyone was there, she was wearing a white baby ringer t-shirt. Very slim, small breasts, straight hair with blond highlights. And she was taking tequila shots like nobodies business. Unfortunately she was taken. Damn. Hhhhhmmm.....what to do? So I made eye contact with her. She smiled back, said cheers and had her drink with her customer for the night. I kept watching her and she kept watching me. We continued to tease each other from a distance. Then she gets up, starts walking towards the dance floor, she doesn't look at me as she passes by, but touches my hand signaling for me to follow her. I follow her to the dance floor.

No words are spoken, we dance for two songs. She then goes back to her end of the bar and I go back to mine. I'm not getting her tonight. Maybe tomorrow.

I continue to see what other options are out there, and there are quite a few. But my eye keeps wandering back to her. And her eyes keep wandering back to me. At around 2am, she pulls the same trick, but this time she doesn't stop at the dance floor, but keeps walking to the bathroom at the other end. We talk and exchange numbers. I will try to see her tonight.

So...back to finding the gem for the night. My buddy picks one out, I take her to the dance floor, we get to know each other a little. Her name is Jackie. Jackie is nice. Jackie makes a deal with me and we head out at 3:30 am back to my place.

Jackie was good. We got out of bed at 12pm....Jackie went home.

Let's see what tonight has to offer :)

-JM

Soujourn

09-23-07, 10:48

Jose - I've seen this alot. Remember, those are members of the 'Golden Horde'. If a man doesn't fight for them, they aren't interested. They will instinctively bide their time, in complete control, waiting for the man that basically drags them out by the hair or woos them in a way that is unique and straightforward.

Don't worry, be bold. Next time tell her she got off easy because you were busy. But this time you business together. So - go get a cab, NOW!

BTW - there is a difference and fine line between rude and confident. I learned some mongolian key phrases, and believe me this puts you way into the envelope of 'confident'. Read some of my earlier posts.

So here I was, 12:30am at Maggies. It's a little too early to get your LT so decided to sit at the bar and caress a bottle of wine for 2 hours. I already had a good buzz going even before I got here.

-JM

Zhuren

09-23-07, 11:36

My God .... This ain't courtship ...

Two simple steps:

#1 : Establish whether she's a drinking girl or a working girl. Chinese = Drinking girl. Mongolian = Working girl. (Most cases, some exceptions apply.) If she's a drinking girl, you can have phone numbers to all her three cellphones, and 5 incoming lines at home: She will be available for drinking only. (Most cases, some exceptions apply.)

# 2: If working girl: Simply say "Look, I'll take you home right away." Unless the other guy is a steady customer, she'll drop him and will hop in taxi immediately. Time is money.

(My hunch is you spent your time making eye contact with a drinking girl. The behavior described is typical of one. She has a customer, and prepares for when he leaves. Then on to the next one. My bet is she'll SMS you: "Coming to Maggie?" )

So here I was, 12:30am at Maggies. It's a little too early to get your LT so decided to sit at the bar and caress a bottle of wine for 2 hours. I already had a good buzz going even before I got here.

So, this time I said to myself. Need to find myself a nice one that won't turn into a disaster like last time. Watched and watched. And then I saw here....she was at the end of the bar near the entrance. If anyone was there, she was wearing a white baby ringer t-shirt. Very slim, small breasts, straight hair with blond highlights. And she was taking tequila shots like nobodies business. Unfortunately she was taken. Damn. Hhhhhmmm.....what to do? So I made eye contact with her. She smiled back, said cheers and had her drink with her customer for the night. I kept watching her and she kept watching me. We continued to tease each other from a distance. Then she gets up, starts walking towards the dance floor, she doesn't look at me as she passes by, but touches my hand signaling for me to follow her. I follow her to the dance floor.

No words are spoken, we dance for two songs. She then goes back to her end of the bar and I go back to mine. I'm not getting her tonight. Maybe tomorrow.

I continue to see what other options are out there, and there are quite a few. But my eye keeps wandering back to her. And her eyes keep wandering back to me. At around 2am, she pulls the same trick, but this time she doesn't stop at the dance floor, but keeps walking to the bathroom at the other end. We talk and exchange numbers. I will try to see her tonight.

So...back to finding the gem for the night. My buddy picks one out, I take her to the dance floor, we get to know each other a little. Her name is Jackie. Jackie is nice. Jackie makes a deal with me and we head out at 3:30 am back to my place.

Jackie was good. We got out of bed at 12pm....Jackie went home.

Let's see what tonight has to offer :)

-JM

Zhuren

09-23-07, 12:01

Samuel, you encountered the infamous Tina who's driving the hardest bargaign on the BJ Sauna circuit. The VIP room is recommended, if you want to spend the money. The 1500 is for FS. She has nice Harbin girls with racks. But she's the mistress of outbound telemarketing and will call you incessantly. She must have someone at the airport or at China Mobile: When I arrive from abroad, the first call I receive is from Tina, right at the baggage carousel ....

Sauna

Had a slow afternoon yesterday so I decided to check out Regency Massage. It is located in the area of the Sunflower Tower Building, and Dirty Nellies bar. Went in and a Chinese woman who spoe English immediately approached me to ask if I had been there before. I told her no, but I had been to other saunas in Beijing. She told me there is a common bath room, and standard massage room where I can get a “oil massage all over my body”. The cost was 800 RMB. There is also a VIP room that contains a bath, shower, and massage table. Again, “oil massage all over my body” for 1500 RMB. I asked to see the rooms. The common bath room was not truly like a sauna – it did not have the hot tubs, but did have lockers, showers, and a steam room. She then showed me the VIP room. It was nice, with a nice bathroom and common room that had 2 massage tables. She said the massage would be for 90 minutes, but I could stay in the room and rest for up to 3 hours. I did not like the common bath facilities, and the price for the VIP room seemed steep to me, so I decided to pass. She did not offer me any additional discount as I was walking out the door, so I can only assume that she give me her best price.

Sammy

Ragnarok42

09-24-07, 03:14

Definately sounds suspicious. Just remember this-if it sounds too good to be true, IT IS (this applies especially in China). If anything doesn't feel right, bail at the first chance. I have unfortunately been shaken down twice in China, and both times in Beijing. So I exercise extreme caution in any such cases.

Spend more money or find freebies that will come to your place. But always be on the lookout, its getting close to there big Oct. holiday and the police are cracking down hard on all our favorite places. So lets be safe everyone.

Gentlemen:

I don't often post because I don't have much to offer, but I have a question that I think some of you may be in a position to answer. I've been exploring banwan.com for a few months, called a few of the girls, and I'm noticing a somewhat disturbing pattern. Before I go on, I did do a search in this thread for banwan, but did not come up with much, although I remember reading posts about it in the past.

If you go to banwan.com and look at the offerings in Beijing, they all have stunning model-like photos, and on their profiles they all say they are from Chongqing and range in age from 18-21. There are about 20 profiles like this in Beijing, and almost no other variations. In other places like Shanghai and Guangzhou you get all kinds of girls and they offer photos that look authentic (i.e., a number of different shots of varying quality of the same girl in different settings). The Beijing profiles often have 20-30 copies of the same cover-girl shot in their photo gallery and nothing else. I have even seen two different profiles with the same photo. I have called some of these girls, and they almost always tell me to go to their place, 400 rmb for a shot, and that I should first go to Andingmen and then call them. One of these girls admitted that the photo on her profile was fake, but the info was accurate.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but this is starting to look like a police trap or something. Why would they all be the same age from Chongqing for 400rmb and all tell you to go to Andingmen? Somehow 400rmb sounds pretty cheap for an 18 year old from Chongqing, unless she's really unattractive. The only other possibility is that someone from Chongqing is running a brothel around there. Anyway, I just wanted to see whether other guys in Beijing have recently tried one of these providers so i know whether it's safe to go ahead.

In the absence of advice, my plan was to call one of them out to a neutral zone like Starbucks, and/or have them come meet me at a hotel room. I've seen stories of guys getting shaken down here before, and I tend to be kind of an idiot, so I wanted to check.

Otherwise, if it's for real, then it looks like a great resource!

Three cheers for the Beijing forum community, and to Jackson, I am an avid reader and have learned a lot, and I look forward to the day when I can give you some reports.

Mao Dun

Sammy_T

09-24-07, 04:21

JoseMarti

09-24-07, 06:28

:)

She was Mongolian and not a Chinese bar girl. I know that by now after many mistakes.

Gut instinct is courtship. But I think I will have to correct myself once in Maggies again. Will have to be the hunter instead of the hunted. Will probably head there either Monday or Tuesday night.

Thanks for the advice!

-JM

My God .... This ain't courtship ...

Two simple steps:

#1 : Establish whether she's a drinking girl or a working girl. Chinese = Drinking girl. Mongolian = Working girl. (Most cases, some exceptions apply.) If she's a drinking girl, you can have phone numbers to all her three cellphones, and 5 incoming lines at home: She will be available for drinking only. (Most cases, some exceptions apply.)

# 2: If working girl: Simply say "Look, I'll take you home right away." Unless the other guy is a steady customer, she'll drop him and will hop in taxi immediately. Time is money.

(My hunch is you spent your time making eye contact with a drinking girl. The behavior described is typical of one. She has a customer, and prepares for when he leaves. Then on to the next one. My bet is she'll SMS you: "Coming to Maggie?" )

Hobert Am

09-24-07, 06:41

How to get freebies? Go up to whoever and start talking and ask for their number.

Hell, one of the dates I picked up, I picked her up waiting in line at a BANK of all places.

I guess technically taking girls on dates isn't a 'freebie' but hell, you don't live there, who the heck cares if you insult someone? Will any of your friends make fun of you? Just start hitting up girls like there's no tomorrow.

And that, is in a paragraph how to get chicks in China.

Ontario Boy and everyone:

could you advise about how to contact freebies in Beijing?

Do you get their contact info online (Which website)?

Zhuren

09-24-07, 18:38

Ontario Boy and everyone:

could you advise about how to contact freebies in Beijing?

Do you get their contact info online (Which website)?

Mr. Lee must be one of the biggest offenders against the RTFF rule on this fine forum. There isn't a single report that gives info. All his posts are ask, ask, ask.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=2732924

This is a good one: "Can anyone advise me on how to chat in chat.sina.com.cn? "

Not bad either: "Hi Lao Ma and anyone: can you tell me how to PM you?"

Next he will ask how to use the bathroom and what to do with that odd roll of paper.

Weelock

09-24-07, 20:21

Arctic1

09-24-07, 23:01

Gentlemen:

[snip]
If you go to banwan.com and look at the offerings in Beijing, they all have stunning model-like photos, and on their profiles they all say they are from Chongqing and range in age from 18-21. There are about 20 profiles like this in Beijing, and almost no other variations. In other places like Shanghai and Guangzhou you get all kinds of girls and they offer photos that look authentic (i.e., a number of different shots of varying quality of the same girl in different settings). The Beijing profiles often have 20-30 copies of the same cover-girl shot in their photo gallery and nothing else. I have even seen two different profiles with the same photo. I have called some of these girls, and they almost always tell me to go to their place, 400 rmb for a shot, and that I should first go to Andingmen and then call them. One of these girls admitted that the photo on her profile was fake, but the info was accurate.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but this is starting to look like a police trap or something. [snip]
Mao Dun

Maodun, you are quite perceptive. I do not believe it is a widespread conspiracy, other than WGs lying about their age and appearance in some way. While in Beijing earlier this year I contacted a lady based on her banwan profile, and she came to see me in Lido (I posted pictures). It turned out that her banwan picture was hers, just a few years old. I will no longer use banwan in Beijing for this reason.

Pier20

09-25-07, 03:11

If you go to banwan.com and look at the offerings in Beijing, they all have stunning model-like photos, and on their profiles they all say they are from Chongqing and range in age from 18-21. There are about 20 profiles like this in Beijing, and almost no other variations. In other places like Shanghai and Guangzhou you get all kinds of girls and they offer photos that look authentic (i.e., a number of different shots of varying quality of the same girl in different settings). The Beijing profiles often have 20-30 copies of the same cover-girl shot in their photo gallery and nothing else. I have even seen two different profiles with the same photo. I have called some of these girls, and they almost always tell me to go to their place, 400 rmb for a shot, and that I should first go to Andingmen and then call them. One of these girls admitted that the photo on her profile was fake, but the info was accurate.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but this is starting to look like a police trap or something. Why would they all be the same age from Chongqing for 400rmb and all tell you to go to Andingmen? Somehow 400rmb sounds pretty cheap for an 18 year old from Chongqing, unless she's really unattractive. The only other possibility is that someone from Chongqing is running a brothel around there. Anyway, I just wanted to see whether other guys in Beijing have recently tried one of these providers so i know whether it's safe to go ahead.
Mao Dun

Mao Dun,

I had this kind of experience on tom.com chatroom (this seems to be closed now) or on chat.163.com. I was getting one service offer every 2 seconds on my screen with phone numbers, QQ nb or websites. Try several and noticed that most were at Yangqiao (south 3rd ring). Though suspicious, I decided to give it a try. After several phone calls for direction, arrived in an apartment and the lady I met was not a WG but some kind of manager who called another girl. Came in after a few minutes, of course she was not the same as on website, but I had a great time with her (complete set for 300: BBBJ & FS) and got her phone number. The 2nd time she invited me directly to her apartment, and I regularly go to meet her as a freebie now (well I always bring some gift with me, nothing is free). She told me they have some organized network to fish on the net potential customer, they then give you directions to follow, you usually have to wait downstairs at the building so they can look at you, see if you are alone,… for safety reasons. This allows them to get all the money they earn (which is of course not the case in saunas or massage places) without taking too much risks. Also, their price is much lower for same probability to get good service as other places (I even saw 200 for one set, even if common price seems to be 300-400).
My advice is be careful, if something seems wrong, run… But maybe no need to be paranoid
And by the way, I think they won't accept to go to a neutral zone...

Zhuren

09-25-07, 07:22

Zhuren

09-25-07, 07:39

She told me they have some organized network to fish on the net potential customer, they then give you directions to follow, you usually have to wait downstairs at the building so they can look at you, see if you are alone,… for safety reasons. This allows them to get all the money they earn (which is of course not the case in saunas or massage places) without taking too much risks. .... My advice is be careful, if something seems wrong, run… But maybe no need to be paranoid

Good advice. Reminds me of my times in New York: "Come to 21st and Lex and call me from the corner."

Ontario Boy

09-25-07, 16:20

First half the BBS on Cunxiu Lu are going or gone. The buildings to the south of the Sezchuan restaurant, with about 3 shops, are being demolished . The BBS to the north are open.

Second had an afternoon visit to the sauna today. I guess they are used to me I got my key at the front , dropped my shoes off and then had to find my own locker . The locker room guys were around but were ignoring me .which was great. After shower and sauna I helped myself to the free PJ's they are in a white heated cabinet that looks like a fridge that is beside the door leading out to the showers. Don't buy the offered ones just show them the free ones and insist you use those. They are actually more comfortable and better quality then the bought ones.

I went upstairs to the 4th Floor and had a good session with a cutie. Took the top menu option and the girl was fine as it was my second time with her and she knew what I liked. Total damage including a coke was 898. this should be the top price and you should not be paying more unless you have some extra drinks or food.

There were a number of young women using the facilities on the second floor. It appears that the set up is that the girls are on 2, the third floor is a mixed area with a restaurant/bar area and the 4th is for massage rooms. There are twin bedded rooms as well as queen size beds. I saw groups playing games at tables with food and drink so I guess it is a place to socilaize as well as get a massage. I guess it would be possible to bring in your own girl who would first go to the second and then meet up with you on the 3rd. But with all the available talent it would be like the proverbial bringing coal to Newcastle.

Ragnarok42

09-26-07, 01:35

Hello, Can you PM or elaborate more about the two shake downs. Was there a fine? Are you sure they were coppers? Was it in your hotel or the girl's place? Do you recall where you find the girl?

The Olympics are just 8-10 months away. I would guest it will be very very bad in Beijing soon.Dude,

Sorry but I don't pay the extra $$ to PM anyone, so can't send you much information. One of the shakedowns happened in a "KTV" where I had sex with the girl and when it was done a guy walked in and started to yell for the manager. Three big guys walked in and said. Well the story is pretty old hat and I am sure you have read many reports of similar incidents. Since I was on their turf I paid them a bit of money and made it go away.

The second was a longer scam where this girl I had called previously called me and said she wanted to get together with me privately without her pimp knowing. We spent a weekend together, but she started getting calls from her boss saying she has to come back (and she used MY phone to call him, the *****). Well, she gets all teary on me and says she wants to run away home, that she doesn't want to do this, etc. So she gets me to call her a cab to the train station but when she got on, three guys come running out, push me aside and take off with her in the cab.

Next morning she calls me crying and says that they will let her go if I pay 500G to "release" her. She says if I care for her I will pay and she can go home to Dongbei, etc. Since she had nothing on me except my phone number I left Beijing and went home to Shanghai (I was living there at the time), cancelled the number and never heard from them again. Quite an elaborate setup actually. So my advice, always pay and keep a slight paranoid edge. Never hurts to say "no".

Nobody Doe

09-26-07, 02:04

Hi All,

I posted this at Chinese Women Opinions and Advice board, but no one comments yet. Since I am living in Beijing, I also would like the comments from people of this forum.

I have a related question regarding to "long separations between husbands and wives". I am from Taiwan and for business reasons I have been relocated from Taiwan to Beijing for almost 2 years. My wife also has been accompanying with me in Beijing in the past 2 years. She still doesn't like the life in Beijing, and from time to time occasionally, she talked about how she like the life in Taiwan, how she wanted to go back to Taiwan to find a job to make some money, and I can keep working in Beijing. In the past 2 years I always shut her down that idea.

Recently my wife went back to Taiwan for some urgent family issues for one month, and I started to mongering during that month, which is the first time ever after our 4 year marriage.

Now I am also taking a 3-week home vacation back to Taiwan to meet my wife. At the first few days of my home vacation in Taiwan (which was last Monday), she was talking about she wanted to stay in Taiwan to work. I almost responded her "Okay", but I was worried that if I accepted that so easily, she might think about other things. So I didn't give a clear answer.

Then after one week later, which was yesterday, I was trying to mention about the idea of her staying in Taiwan, then she was not happy, asking if I have affairs, etc. I said to her "it was you proposing that idea last week, and you were always not very happy in Beijing", but she didn't even admit she said that last week! So I stopped that topic. Her younger sister (who's also married) was living very close to our place in Taipei, and she even told her sister I was asking her to stay in Taiwan. What the hell.

So my question is: how I would resume our conversation of her "wish" to stay in Taiwan, and really make her to do so? In the past 2 years my attitude was always trying to keep her in Beijing with me, so I guess my change of attitude somehow made her scare.

My wife doesn't have a job in Beijing, and her Taiwan professional (medical examination) is very difficult to practice in mainland China. She has a few friends in Beijing, but none of them are as close as her friends in Taiwan. She always complained about how bored she was in Beijing, waiting me back home, how unfriendly the Beijing mainland Chinese are, how unworthy that she gave up her job in Taiwan, etc. So I guess it's possible she does want to stay in Taiwan to get a job, but I speculate while she's considering to stay in Taiwan, she's still worrying about if I would have affairs in Beijing.

Your great advice will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Taiwan Guy

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Sparky Boy

09-26-07, 07:25

After all the reports of wangjing 419 I decided to give it a try.

I'm not exactly sure of the location but it is further east of the hilton hotel, it cost about 20 RMB from the Hilton to the massage place. In the taxi, tell the driver "wang jing xin cheng". Wang jing xin cheng is a massive set of apartments, probably close to 50 or so apartments.

The apartment I went to is called apartment 419, they have labels on them, it is in the 4th area as denoted by the 4 in the "419. " So try to tell the driver you want to go to the 4th area (si qu).

Once your in the 4th area, just try to find the 419 apartment, it is not hard, you can ask anybody there but best to ask the guards, they are very helpful.

Once you get to apartment 419, don't go in the main lobby, go in the side, there is a little side ramp that goes underground, walk down that for about 7 seconds and on your right is a massage place, you'll notice a counter and about 15 seats in the lobby where people get their foot massage.

The 160RMB option gets you a 90minute massage PLUS a handjob, I had number 22, she was quite good but I'the only give her a 7 at most for looks. She has good technique and is willing to let you touch her and all. She is also quite friendly in terms of hugging, and stuff. The place is open 24 hours and outcall is available for the same price + return taxi fare.

For 160 RMB, I would say it is a pretty good deal although it is unlikely that you will find any stunners there.

The phone number for the place is: 6475 7093 in case you need it.

There is also lots of other massage places in the other apartments but I have not tried them yet.

Intransit

09-26-07, 07:55

Taiwan Guy,

There are several factors at work here. At the heart of it is, how much do you love your wife, and how much does she love you?

Regardless of anyone's work situation, the marriage should come first. Married people living in separate geographic locations simply does not work. And mongering is no substitute for regular sex in a committed relationship. I say all this from experience, and I can assure you that if I had it to do over again, I would not have moved to another city while my wife lived elsewhere.

As for what she said about trying to live apart and then expressing unhappiness when you said you could try it, welcome to the world of women. In general, men ask questions because they want an answer or opinion. Women often do it as a test, and as such, there are right and wrong answers. The classic, of course, is "do I look fat?" And the right answer of course is, "absolutely not! You look terrific! Why would you say that?" Never, under any circumstances, should you even suggest that she should spend a little time in the gym. Your wife basically wants to gauge your enthusiasm for the idea, and because you indicated you might be interested, she now thinks that you're engaging in nightly orgies.

Either keep your wife with you and do whatever you can to help her find work and friends, or see if you can get yourself back to Taipei. You can always find another job. But if your wife and your marriage mean anything to you, put them first.

Weelock

09-26-07, 08:37

--cut--

Next morning she calls me crying and says that they will let her go if I pay 500G to "release" her. She says if I care for her I will pay and she can go home to Dongbei, etc. Since she had nothing on me except my phone number I left Beijing and went home to Shanghai (I was living there at the time), cancelled the number and never heard from them again. Quite an elaborate setup actually. So my advice, always pay and keep a slight paranoid edge. Never hurts to say "no".

If it happened to me, and I know the girl a lot better, I would maybe call the police. But since you know her for a very short time, and everything you wrote sounds like a setup, it's a scam. For example, how they know where she was at, waiting for a taxi. Then getting too involved might get you tons of questions from the police is a problem, if you don't really know her.

Anyway, I have heard stores of girls being kidnapped. Then forced to call their mamasan for money. In a way the kidnappers are asking for trouble because most likely they are dealing with triads ( The mamasan's backup ).

SidTheSexist

09-26-07, 09:11

But with all the available talent it would be like the proverbial bringing coal to Newcastle.Easy boy!! :D There aint much coal coming out of Newcastle these days!!! just stick to, "sand to the beach!" :D
Sid

Ragnarok42

09-26-07, 10:25

After all the reports of wangjing 419 I decided to give it a try.

The 160RMB option gets you a 90minute massage PLUS a handjob, I had number 22, she was quite good but I'the only give her a 7 at most for looks. She has good technique and is willing to let you touch her and all. She is also quite friendly in terms of hugging, and stuff. The place is open 24 hours and outcall is available for the same price + return taxi fare.

For 160 RMB, I would say it is a pretty good deal although it is unlikely that you will find any stunners there.

Agreed about #22's looks. Great girl and fabulous technique, just have to close my eyes and imagine someone else.

Try number 17 next time, a great deal cuter and just as nice an attitude. I prefer outcall now since it works out to be the same price and I have more privacy and a lot more touching. I have almost talked her into having sex with me, so wish me luck!

Sebastian My

09-27-07, 01:07

I have noticed that on Tuesday and Wednesday evening Hollywood has been totally devoid of any Russian speaking providers. The Koreans (sic), some Mongolians and 1-2 eastern Europeans – who are not Russian – were present – but no Russian speakers. There were lots of Chinese guys around and even a few laowai guys. On Monday evening it was normal, just the last two evenings.
I know Hollywood was raided last week, but that normally scares away the Chinese guys, not the girls. I can't believe the Russian's celebrate moon cake – and that has ended. Does anyone have any idea what has occurred?

On Thursday some Russian speaking women came back, there were about 10-20 at 11pm. Numbers the lowest i have ever seen - I suppose its just one of those seasonal things.

Sparky Boy

09-27-07, 05:14

Agreed about #22's looks. Great girl and fabulous technique, just have to close my eyes and imagine someone else.

Try number 17 next time, a great deal cuter and just as nice an attitude. I prefer outcall now since it works out to be the same price and I have more privacy and a lot more touching. I have almost talked her into having sex with me, so wish me luck!Good Luck Ragnarok42! haha

I will go back to WangJing soon and post whichever girl I try.

Bad Boy Billy

09-27-07, 05:51

Newbeijingguy and others..................bad news guys.

I spoke to the 'Movie Star' on the phone last night...............she is heading home to Moscow on Sept 29.

She also has problems with her passport as well and may not be able to return to Beijing.

Major BUMMER.

Unquestionably the BEST Russian performer I have EVER had.

Total GFE - and WHAT A BODY.

Ontario Boy

09-27-07, 05:51

Either keep your wife with you and do whatever you can to help her find work and friends, or see if you can get yourself back to Taipei. You can always find another job. But if your wife and your marriage mean anything to you, put them first.

Taiwan Guy

Intransit is absolutely right. Your wife is telling you that she is not happy in Beijing and wants to go back to Taiwan. She will not come out and tell you directly that she is asking you to choose between your job or her.

Beijing can be a strange place for Taiwanese. Your accents immediately identifty you as outsiders and you will be treated as such by a lot of people here. Going to work you will probably not be aware of it as much as your wife will seeing it on a daily basis. Your wife is also missing the support of her family and friends. This is natural and you should not put any blame on her.

Your marriage of 4 years is not that old in terms of relationships and in many ways you are still getting to know each other. You have already "fallen off the wagon once" and could do it again. The longer the absence the more luring and attractive the girls become and then who knows what will happen.

Infiniteuknwn

09-27-07, 09:37

Ragnarok42

09-28-07, 03:12

Good Luck Ragnarok42! haha

I will go back to WangJing soon and post whichever girl I try.Thanks buddy,

Try the basement massage parlor of Bldg #417, 300 for FS and the girl let me cream the outside of her pussy and not the boring tummy shot. Let me tell you, almost as good as having BBFS and cumming inside.

Almost.

Zhuren

09-28-07, 07:23

Just wondering, but how hard is it for an asian looking fellow to get into Maggies? I am a yank and my chinese frankly sucks, and I would like to check out maggies but I am reluctant to bring my passport out with me to go drinking and mongering to prove my foreigner-ness. Does the staff at the door take some convincing? Or will rapid fire english and my lack of understanding of the chinese language be enough?

If your Chinese sucks, then you are one step into Maggies.
Next step: No Chinese at all.
Guard talks to you in Chinese.
You say: "Say what?"
Guard says more in Chinese.
You "Sorry, no Chinese!"

Kunshan

09-28-07, 09:37

or if as you get out of the taxi in front of Maggies and you see a western guy going in then just start chatting with him as you pass the guards.

A few weeks ago a Asian xpat friend was stopped at the outer gate of Maggies, he called me, but as it was raining I didn't want to go out, so I just stuck my head out the door and yelled at him to get his lazy ass in the door, that was enough for the guards.

JoseMarti

09-28-07, 18:33

This is a late report. This happened last Monday.....

Unlike my last two posts about Maggie's, this one is different. She was outstanding. Here is my story...

Showed up on at late shift at 2am. Decided to scope it out unlike last time where I became the hunted.

I lit up my cigar and stood near the DJ booth. Smoked for a good 30 mins drinking my beer. One hunter approached me. She was short, on the heavy side and wearing crimson. I wasn't too interested so I just made some small talk and after a few mins she moved on. I spotted 3 potential candidates for tonight. My goal was to make my move at 3am.

At about 2:30 am; I was being hunted again. Two hunters started to look my way and giggle. I asked them whats up. One pointed to my head and said my hair was sticking up. Uh oh! I said....thats ok, i don't care, jokingly, smiled and continued smoking and sipping my beer. They kept gesturing that I pat it down and they then moved closer. We introduced ourselves, they both tried to pat my hair down and that didn't work. One was tall, plain and simply dressed in jeans and a black shirt. Th other was shorter and heavier. They asked if I wanted to play pool. I said sure. We moved to the pool area. The shorter one started to play. The cute simpler looking one stood where I was sipping her wine. World, Hold On started to play. I asked her if she wanted to dance, she said sure. She wasn't much of dancer. Song ended and we moved back to the pool table.

I was now thinking. It is going to be this one, or the three others I scoped out. I decided to go with this one. Made the deal 800 RMB for the night. 3am and we headed out the door.

Landed at my place. Put on some music and headed to the shower. What a great shower. We soaped each other down, had a lot of foreplay, BBBJ etc. She wanted to do it in the shower, but I prefer the bed. Toweled down and headed to the bed. Damn she was good. Very aggressive. I loved it. Got done and she say. Let's sleep now. Sure. I throw her a t-shirt and we cuddle to sleep. 5 mins later she turns around and starts to kiss me and play with her pussy. She grabs my hand and takes my finger to the spot where she wants me to play with her. Oh boy! She continues to guide my fingers while she plays with herself as well. Finger play with DFK. What a combination!

Her body trembles and I think she came like twice. She goes limp for about 2 seconds, looks as me and says. Fuck Me. Sure baby. And we go for another round. Phew, this is great. After round 2 we both pass out.

I wake up at 8:30 am to get ready. I look at her there and start to caress her. I think the way to get her in the mood is to repeat the pussy play, satisfy her first and then me. Yup, I was right. It worked wonders. She was great again.

Both showered, changed and parted ways on the street.

Uka was outstanding. Her real name is Uranchimeg.

She claimed to be a Geological Stress Engineer..... I think she was more like a Stress Releave Engineer.

I love Beijing. Will be back in a month!

Logos

09-29-07, 00:53

I haven't been to beijing yet and am booked for a business convention in a couple week at the following hotel :

China Resources Hotel Beijing
No. 35 Jianguo Road, Chaoyang District, Beijing China

http://www.crh.com.cn/index.php

They have massage and a sauna. I had a look at their website but it looks very legit and traditional, alas.

Does anybody know that place ? Is it close to the local action ? Any possibility of a quick rump in the area between 2 meetings ?

Sebastian My

09-29-07, 07:40

Zhuren

09-29-07, 09:15

Whether these rumors are true or not (and BJ is the capital of rumors: ) The Chinese are eagerly soaking up foreign know-how. Germany received al lot of flak (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GFRG,GFRG:2007-07,GFRG:en&q=trafficking+women+soccer+world+championship) for supposedly tolerating trafficking of women for sexual exploitation during last year's soccer world championship. Can't blame the Chinese for not wanting a repeat. The exploitation story was a hyped-up flash in the pan btw, and local providers complained about lack of business while men were glued to the tube.

Usual recommendation: For a good time and peace of mind, go to Maggies.

I found out why Hollywood was deal this week. Last week the police raided the place and arrested one Russian girl who had no valid visa or passport and who had been living in Beijing for the last 3 years. She passed away while in custody over the weekend and this information went around like wildfire in the Russian speaking Hollywood community on Monday. Thus no Russian speakers on Tuesday to Wednesday and no actual Russians at all this week. While a few Russian Mafia figures have unfortunately passed away in custody in the past, these are normally rather unpleasant people – this is the first time I have heard that one of the girls being so affected.
I can't vouch for the veracity of this information, but as normal reality is less important than perception – and this is the perception the girls had. My Russian friend was very disturbed and wants to go back home, even though she has a 1 year visa. Her friends and many other Russians are all leaving or planning to leave in the next 2 weeks. No doubt new girls will arrive, but as the Chinese are beginning to restrict visa's for any female under the age of 30-32 which span the Olympic period, I suspect it may get lean until the Olympics are over – although there may be lots of older providers available.
I wonder if this will affect the Mongolians as well? If so I suspect the diet will be Chinese or older laowai's for most of the next 12 months.

Weelock

09-29-07, 09:27

Infiniteuknwn

09-29-07, 17:32

This is sort of a non-report but I figured i would post anyway and try to contribute to a board that Ive gained so much knowledge from.

So I made my way to HRC tonight, was thinking of going to maggies but my taxi driver had no idea what I meant when I told him "Ri Tan Gong Yuan Nan Men"... is that the wrong direction to give? I figured it would be easier to just get to the Landmark Hotel and the HRC.

Arrived at the HRC around 11, an watched as a long stream of WGs started walking in. I am actually quite dissapointed in the quality. Was I there too early, or is HRC just not that great of a place?

Stood around at the bar in the front first, one girl, maybe a 5-6 walks up to me and makes small talk. I try to shoo her off, end up buying her an overpriced coke to mae her go away (sorry guys, Im weak).

Decided then to move to the back staircase area, and I actually dropped the code phrase to some others, but I gues none of you were at HRC today.. haha, not that I can blame you. The pickings werent that great.

Stood around, drank a couple beers, and then left around 12(dissapointed in the quality). I have hobbied around the US, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and HK before.. so im not too new at this but I am not sure why I didnt want to seal any deals in BJ. Perhaps its becuase I acutally live here now and im not going back to a hotel. Taking someone back to my apartment just seems different. I almost feel like booking a hotel room just to get some peace of mind. From what I have been reading, it should be a quality issue. is it the fact that I went out on a saturday night?... perhaps I should try a weekday excursion next time as the board suggests.

So that was my non-event night. I will try maggies in a couple weeks after some business I have to take care of is finished. Thanks for the advice on entry for asian foreigners, I will definitely give it a try and report back. If at that time you se a confused looking and youngish looking (even though im not that young) asian-american looking guy. Drop the code, and Ill get you a few pints and we can swap war stories. Im new to BJ, but im not new to the hobby... again, for some reason I cant feel at ease here just yet and Ive been here a month.

Thanks for the help, hopefully I will be able to really contribute in the future.

-InfiniteUnknown

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Santa

09-29-07, 21:16

Taiwan Guy,

Married people living in separate geographic locations simply does not work. .

There is a popular saying "absence makes the heart grow fonder", but that is not true.

If you and your wife have a good relationship it is because you frequently reinforce each other. When you are seperated you will no longer be able to do so and then the friendship will naturally decline.

The same is true of all other types of relationships.

Excellent reply from Intransit.

Zhuren

09-30-07, 03:45

So I made my way to HRC tonight, was thinking of going to maggies but my taxi driver had no idea what I meant when I told him "Ri Tan Gong Yuan Nan Men"... is that the wrong direction to give? I figured it would be easier to just get to the Landmark Hotel and the HRC.

Instructions:

- Click here (http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm)
- Print out
- Show to taxi driver
- Have fun

Zhuren

09-30-07, 09:26

I suspect the Chinese gov't just starting.

It looks like they just begun seriously for the summer games.

- Sweeps and round-ups of usual suspects before big events is common practice throughout the world. Cities want to look clean. Police want to look busy. There are budgets that need to be rationalized.

- Clamp-downs on prostitution before a big party congress are a routine affair - in the USA for instance.

- The 17th National Party Congress is coming to town October 15th. Anything un-harmonious has to tone down or will be tuned-out. ( http://cliffordcoonan.dreamhosters.com/blog/?p=316) (Expat night-owls, take note: According to the just quoted report, "property owners are told not to rent their homes to people who “stay out late” and have “irregular lifestyles.”) This is what's currently happening. It's not the Olympics - yet.

- Of course, similar - or possibly even more thorough - house-cleaning is to be expected before the Olympics.

- China is under a lot of criticism, and events like the Olympics are always used to focus political pressure. As mentioned before, far in ADVANCE of last year's soccer world championship, Germany faced a wave of international criticism (http://www.google.com/search?q=trafficking+women+soccer+world+championship&hl=en&rls=GFRG,GFRG:2007-07,GFRG:en&start=10&sa=N) for supposedly tolerating trafficking of women to service inebriated soccer fans. Lurid stories that smacked of comfort women during WWII were wildly circulated. Bogus reports of "wooden sex huts, or 'performance boxes'" spread like wildfire.

- The US State Department weighed in, (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/06/world/europe/06slavery.html) and not to be outdone, the US Consulate in Frankfurt organized a campaign (http://frankfurt.usconsulate.gov/frankfurt/web_chats.html) to "to help victims of trafficking who are forced into prostitution in Germany."

- Claes Borgström, Sweden's Equal Opportunities Ombudsman, urged Swedish soccer players to boycott the World Cup. (http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,411064,00.html) They might as well have, the Swedes didn't even enter the Quarter Finals.

- Prostitution is legal in Germany. Nevertheless, under massive political pressure, brothels were raided in wholesale fashion. In Munich alone, 48 brothels were raided. And nothing was found. (http://www.sexwork.com/whatisnew/worldcupmania.html)

- In the end, the whole story turned out to be one big lie. (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-05-08-3654392893_x.htm)

- However, in the debunking story just quoted, USA Today reported that "Germany's raids on brothels, information campaigns and coordination with non-governmental groups should serve as a model for hosts of future major sporting events, such as next year's Olympics in Beijing."

Don't blame the Chinese for being in tune with world opinion.

Makeupaname

09-30-07, 10:04

I've been in town BJ for a few days now. I went to the concierge at a nice hotel and
had them write out the address for the Hard Rock and Maggies. I tried HRC on
Tuesday and was very disappointed. I got there about 10:30. There were about
20-30 guys and no women. I was finishing my drink before leaving when about
20 women started streaming through the door at 11:00. Most were older and
not very attractive. I was out the door by 11:30.

One Wing Low

09-30-07, 11:17

I will be in BJ for 5 days during 2nd week of October. I RTFF and found lots of good references to Maggies and Hollywood. These are must-try spots. Many thanks to the bros who posted good info about BJ.

Since this is my first time in BJ, and not knowing any bros here, I need some basic guidance:

1. What is the name of the main entertainment area convenient for the mongering?
2. What hotels would be good choices for mongers?
3. What are the Chinese names and street locations of major BBS areas?
4. What are other venues to find girls and entertainment, bars? KTV? Saunas?
5. What other attractions should be visited during the 5 days?
- Forbidden Palace?
- Great Wall?
- Bejing Univ?

Any Beijing bros would not mind showing the local scene to a wing man? I will only be there 4 or 5 nights and would like maximum exposure to the night life. Will be happy to reciprocate when appropriate.

Thanks for your help.

Xiangjiao

09-30-07, 19:04

A couple of years back, I was a regular at the Wang Jing Xin Cheng basement massage parlors. Haven't been back in over a year, but had some time off, so thought I'd give it a look.

As usual in China, things have really changed. Based on recent reports, like the one by Ragnorok42 below, I started at BLDG #417 (this is in si qu, aka, area 4). The basement parlor featured three older ladies, at least in their forties. Nasty. No thanks. Went over to #419, based on another recent ISG report. The parlor looked halfway legit and clean, but I decided I didn't want to settle for an overpriced HJ. I wanted FS for no more than RMB300.

So I went into almost every single basement massage parlor in si qu looking for the young hotties I used to do during my days as a regular. I didn't find a single decent looking girl in the dozen or so places I checked.

I also went over to san qu (area three), but it was newer and more upscale and had very few illegit massage parlors.

I then went to yi qu and er qu (areas one and two). Keep in mind that these qu are actually quite large. I took me a lot of time walking around and riding in those dirtbike cabs.

In desperation, I finally circled back to BLDG 417. But instead of going to the basement, I went to the first floor massage parlor. BINGO.

There were three cuties, who couldn't have been more than 19 yo., lounging on the massage chairs. And there was a slightly older and taller woman who seemed in charge. Actually, she looked to be in her early 20s and had a nice figure and pretty face. So I took her. The charge was RMB300. Another young guy came in just after me. And he took forever to choose between the three younger ones.

They then escorted me and the young guy up to a second floor 2-3 bedroom apartment for the FS.

My girl had a pretty good body and squirmed and moaned nicely during DATY. But she wouldn't reciprocate with BJ, saying she hates it and doesn't do it. I insisted, but she stayed serious and firm. By this time, I just want to f--k her, so that's what we did. Multiple positions. Good moaning.

But the lack of BJ totally sabotaged it for me. That, and her cold, business-like manner afterwards.

Ended up having an awesome Korean dinner in the si qu (Wang Jing is the largest Korea town in Beijing) featuring the best dolsot bibimbap I'd ever had in China. In fact, the dinner was the highlight of my trip and the only worthwhile reason to return to the area.

Happy mongering!

Thanks buddy,

Try the basement massage parlor of Bldg #417, 300 for FS and the girl let me cream the outside of her pussy and not the boring tummy shot. Let me tell you, almost as good as having BBFS and cumming inside.

Almost.

Alroy

09-30-07, 20:34

This is a summary of a few encounters on my last trip to Beijing.

The first night I wanted to start early as I was staying at the Great Wall Sheraton and the security can be trying there sometimes so I went to the Lido and met some not very attractive Chinese girls who I did not want to take home. Finally hooked upa with a girl from Sichuan who called herself Mi-Mi at the bar but later told me her name was Li when shegave me her number. She agreed to a double round and seemed like she might be agood bet so off to the GWS we go. After a serious check in process where they take her cell number an ID card details we finally make itto the room.

She was great, she really loved oral and came very convincingly and though not very skilled at the BJ she tried really hard and in the end got the job done. She was enthusiastic and willing during various sex positions and overall I had a great time. I wish I had called her again as it was a total GFE. She also was willing duringthe second round even thugh it was aserious workout for her. Anyway, highly recommedend if you run into her at the Pig.

The next night I went to Maggies and was introduced to Erika by one of the Chinse drinking girls. We went to teh GWS and she was refused admission becuase she did not have her passport with her and apparently the student ID card was no enough. Anyway I decided to go to her place in Chaoyang. Humble but adequate and it was amazing as a sexual experience. There is nothing like a Mongolian girl who is into it. She was an amzing kisser, and gave me an awesome BBBJTCIM after I had started her off with a long DATY session. After a short nap she ready to go again and we had sex in various positions but I could not cum --anyway it was as good as sex can get and a complete GFE -- a really great girl friend at that. I would have kep going but unfortunately had to go tothe bathroom. She walked me back down and got me back in a cab -- highly recommeded if you run into her at Maggies.

The next two nights were less successful. First I went to the HRC and met a blonde Russian with short hair -- I forget her name. I was assaulted by the Chinese women as I walked in and had to basically tell them to buzz off. Anyway this Russian woman caled me over and so we go back to the GWS and no problem -- we walk right through with no problems at all beyond some disapproving looks -- I guess if you are white it helps.

She asks for money upfront and is kind of chunky and really certain that she has the best tits in China. I'm thinkin I could have had Erika or Li again (both sure things) and what the hell am I doing with her. Anyway we f**K and I pound her but I do not particularly enjoy it -- not recommended. Avoid if you see her at the HRC.

Also my last night at Maggies was bad news. First I spent some time with the bar girl who introduced me to Erika and bougt her a drink but she wanted more -- she wanted "tip" of 200 RMB. Apparently Maggies has 28 "very pretty" Chinese bar girls who run up high drink tabs and get tips. Anyway I find this Mongolian beauty and ask her if she has ID on her to get her through the GWS -- she gets nervous and says she does not want to deal with Security and points me to this less lovely MOngolian girl who had her passport with her -- anyway this girl has been around and is on her 7th tour of Beijing and does not have the usual good attitude that Mongolian girls are known for. We have no problem walking into the the GWS (go figure) and she give really mediocre servcice --I pound her and the second I cum she jumps up and starts getting ready to leave.

I go into the bathroom and slap myslef while looking in the mirror. I thijnkher name was Sarah -- avoid her and probably many of the girls who have been around for several tours and who do get jaded. Can you blame them?

Anyway Beijing still has jewels to offer even atthe GWS which seems to be easing up a little on the enforcement.

Bad Boy Billy

09-30-07, 22:07

I found out why Hollywood was deal this week. Last week the police raided the place and arrested one Russian girl who had no valid visa or passport and who had been living in Beijing for the last 3 years. She passed away while in custody over the weekend and this information went around like wildfire in the Russian speaking Hollywood community on Monday. Thus no Russian speakers on Tuesday to Wednesday and no actual Russians at all this week. While a few Russian Mafia figures have unfortunately passed away in custody in the past, these are normally rather unpleasant people – this is the first time I have heard that one of the girls being so affected.
I can't vouch for the veracity of this information, but as normal reality is less important than perception – and this is the perception the girls had. My Russian friend was very disturbed and wants to go back home, even though she has a 1 year visa. Her friends and many other Russians are all leaving or planning to leave in the next 2 weeks. No doubt new girls will arrive, but as the Chinese are beginning to restrict visa's for any female under the age of 30-32 which span the Olympic period, I suspect it may get lean until the Olympics are over – although there may be lots of older providers available.
I wonder if this will affect the Mongolians as well? If so I suspect the diet will be Chinese or older laowai's for most of the next 12 months.

Such an interesting post.

I received an SMS in Australia from the 'Movie Star' who left to go back to Moscow on Sept 29 - she previously told me she too had a problem with her VISA but now says she will be back in Beijing in 1 month.

I guess it will be VERY VERY difficult for us to ascertain the actual truth but hopefully things will return to normal ASAP.

As for the Olympics - Billy will CERTAINLY not be in or around Beijing for a 2 month window around the actual Olympic week.

Who knows exactly what the totally unpredictable Chinese govt has in mind for that period. I am not talking concerns towards foreign mongers - just the degree of 'clamp down' that the govt is sure to invoke.

Ragnarok42

10-01-07, 00:43

But the lack of BJ totally sabotaged it for me. That, and her cold, business-like manner afterwards.Dude,

Thanks for the info, will definately give the place a try and see if we can't convince her other lips to open as well.

But I am finding that with these younger girls, they just won't do a lot of things. The older "girl" I had in the basement was older but still had a 7~8 figure and she let me do EVERYTHING to her-DATY, BBBJ, rimming, frenching, etc. Hell, she would have given me BBFS if I had asked. So sometimes something has to be said with age, not always the sweetest looking but they more than make up for it with their enthusiam.

Sebastian My

10-01-07, 03:50

1. What is the name of the main entertainment area convenient for the mongering?
2. What hotels would be good choices for mongers?
3. What are the Chinese names and street locations of major BBS areas?
4. What are other venues to find girls and entertainment, bars? KTV? Saunas?
5. What other attractions should be visited during the 5 days?
- Forbidden Palace?
- Great Wall?
- Bejing Univ?

Try these maps. There is also an excellent Google Earth map list in the postings.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=571554#post571554

Zhuren

10-01-07, 17:33

Also my last night at Maggies was bad news. First I spent some time with the bar girl who introduced me to Erika and bougt her a drink but she wanted more -- she wanted "tip" of 200 RMB. Apparently Maggies has 28 "very pretty" Chinese bar girls who run up high drink tabs and get tips.

Anybody who's a Maggie's regular or who can RTFF knows that Maggie's bar girls live on and deserve their tips. Usual charge for the evening is 500 anyway - you got off easy.

Anyway I find this Mongolian beauty and ask her if she has ID on her to get her through the GWS -- she gets nervous and says she does not want to deal with Security and points me to this less lovely MOngolian girl who had her passport with her -- anyway this girl has been around and is on her 7th tour of Beijing and does not have the usual good attitude that Mongolian girls are known for. We have no problem walking into the the GWS (go figure) and she give really mediocre servcice --I pound her and the second I cum she jumps up and starts getting ready to leave.
I go into the bathroom and slap myslef while looking in the mirror. I thijnkher name was Sarah -- avoid her and probably many of the girls who have been around for several tours and who do get jaded. Can you blame them?

Sarah? There are two. Little Sarah (usually elegantly "dressed down," speaks perfect English, petite) and Tall Sarah (tall, busty.) Both of them are great. Little Sarah speaks her mind and doesn't take shit. Treat her like a gentleman would treat a lady, and she will reciprocate. Treat her like shit and you'll be in hell. Sammy will back me up on this, and he's been in BJ forever.

Also, RTFF and avoid the Sheraton.

Nite_Runner

10-01-07, 22:08

Fellow Mongers,

Does anyone have any experience with any of the advertisers currently listed on CL??

N_R

Just Zilla

10-02-07, 05:54

Zhuren

10-02-07, 10:53

Hi folks

Yes I have RTFF and I have seen nowhere if the Continental Grand (close to teh Olympic Stadium) is GF. I know the Crowne Plaza next door is GF but cant afford there for the time staying up there.

Can some one let me know if they know and I will buy a drink or three at maggies in a few weeks when I am there.

I have no intelligence on that establishment. But thank you for the reminder: The hotel list has been updated. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2659)

Alroy

10-03-07, 01:07

Yes I am not sure what her name was it sounded like Sarah but it could have been something different -- she was taller and not really busty but bigger built. Anyway she does not have a good attitude and she has kind of a surly or indifferent facial expression.

Yes I am very much aware of the GWS hotel issues and have had girls turned away in the past. I realy had no choice but to stay there because of other business reasons. But it appears that they are much better than they used to be and if you smile and get to know the security chief who walks around at 9Pm - 10PM they will leave you alone if you are walking in, even with a Chinese girl who they normally bully the most.

I am sure I would have had no problems with the Mongolian girl who was afraid to come back with me but it is a crap shoot and most people would rather avoid the hassle and just stay at another hotel unless they have no choice.

Two years ago it would have been difficult to get any girl in after 10PM now it is relatively easy if you register a Chinese girl or if the girl has a passport no matter what the time. Also you just register at the concierge desk and she gives you a ticket that you give to the elevator gaurd. This does mean that Chinese girls have to have ID cards and MOngolian girls need passports. Sometimes they just let you walk through with a stare or two.

I think they realize that people are avoiding them because of thier policies. However, having said all that I would much rather be at the St Regis or Kerry Center anyday where this is never an issue. The last think anybody wants to have to deal with is admission rejection at the hotel.

However, it is a much better situation at the Sheraton where you can NOW take the girl in if you are willing to follow the procedures and if you don't mind the scrutiny. So I would change this hotel rating to an Orange light from a clear red.

One Wing Low

10-03-07, 01:40

Hi Sebastian,

Your maps with notations for places and prices are great help.

Thanks a lot.

Will study the maps and plan for the visit. If you are available, would like to buy you a few drinks and hang out

Try these maps. There is also an excellent Google Earth map list in the postings.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=571554#post571554

Kachol

10-03-07, 13:56

Wujohn

10-03-07, 16:12

Old timers in Beijing may remember a Dong Fang Sauna (Oriental Sauna) near China World that offered excellent (albeit very expensive) full services. Great for mid day get-always if you work around China World.

Apparently their building was torn down. Does anybody know if they have a new location?Ahh yes Oriental Sauna. Yes it has been torn down. The girls used to live in the dormitory next door and get charged an exhorbitant amount for fairly cruddy accomodation. Not that they stayed there long. And as you rightly say, very expensive.

Unfortunately, I don't know what happened to it. If anyone knows of something similar close to China World, would love to know.

In the meantime, I have been going to 3 other places which offered the same type of deal. Two are near the northern end of the Forbidden City, to the east of Jingshan Park but it is a communal shower area (ie all men). Cost is around 1000RMB for FS but its a real treat. They do everything from body slide, hot/cold water, body licking, arse licking etc etc with BBBJ. The other is down the road from the Crowne Plaza in Wangfujing. Cost is the same for communal shower area unless you are able to go to a VIP room which costs 1300-1500RMB but it is a separate shower service, very discrete and the girls wash you. A nice touch! FS and same services as the other places.

The selection of girls is always very good (minimum 6 girls but I've seen as many as 20+ at one time) and I've always found someone to my taste. Having said that, I am now at the stage where I have seen enough of them to know what I want in advance most of the time.

They are all located downstairs of a hotel but unfortunately none of these are foreigner friendly unless you speak Chinese or are able to get in with a local or a Chinese looking guy (I qualify as the latter). They generally start around 2:00pm and go until 3:00am (later on weekends depending on the crowd). The girls are under strict orders not to take or give phone numbers but that just creates a challenge for regular punters like myself.

There are also a number of cheaper establishments towards the south east of Beijing along the southern third ring road. These tend to be cheaper (800RMB) but tend to be VERY CROWDED and I have never been yet where I haven't had to wait for a girl to be ready. Yes business is good but you just know that whoever you happen to get will have just finished servicing someone else so.....

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Wujohn

10-03-07, 16:35

I have no intelligence on that establishment. But thank you for the reminder: The hotel list has been updated. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2659)Continental Grand is GF but you need to be discreet. At least more so than the Crowne Plaza.

There is a KTV place in between it and the Crowne Plaza Wuzhou which has amazing girls for a very high price. The mamasan at the KTV place can arrange cheap rooms at both the Crowne Plaza and Continental Grand.

Also, if you HAVE to stay in the area, check out the serviced apartments / hotels (called Huiyuan Apartments). They are about the same price (may even be cheaper) as the Continental Grand but slightly bigger (they used to be used as accomodation for athletes from the Asian Games) and definitely GF.

Jiminfo2000

10-03-07, 19:21

Can someone tell me if this area is close to the action? I have a hotel recommendation here for work, but I'm not sure I will have any fun in this area.

One Wing Low

10-04-07, 06:58

Any bro wanna hangout?

John Euro

10-04-07, 07:57

i was only one night in beijing and no time enough to try the best places as advised on this forum, not knowing the city makes it even more difficult to plan it in advance. after i arrived at the hotel, i had a quick walk in a shopping street to buy a few items and noticed some massage places in the near of the novotel, it was the only option that’s as left for me as i had to be back in the hotel for a 21. 00 dinner meeting. dropped my stuff and valuables in the room, a few rmb bill’s in the pocket and back on the road.

i wanted to check out the 2 places i have seen before. when walking from the regent hotel traffic lights (jin bao street), they are in the first alley on your right just pass the novotel and across the lee garden hotel, (think, jin yu tong wang fujing str.) they have neon signs, thought i check out the price at both places first but when walking in the alley i was approached by several pimps trying to sell a massage, couldn’t get rid of them and walked straight in the first decent place on the right nr massage 81, wide open doors, a long aisle in the lower level with all the rooms l & are, lot’s of girls around, so this looks safe to me.

i was offered different type of massages and chose a chinese oil massage for 1h and asked for a strong mass. in the room they gave me as usual a long trouser, the mgr; was trying to sell me a expensive chinese thee but refused it 4 times, not just for the price but the (based on experience) warning is: when you drink and get a belly massage you have to go for a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) outside and leave you money etc unsafe in the room with the girl.

i undressed but did not put the trousers on as i don’t like it and it lowers the chances for hj or more, when i was laying face down, the girl came in the room and turned around immediately and close the door again, the mamasan came back and told me to wear the trousers, asked, even for oil massage? " yes always ". this was not a good sign for extra’s. make a long story short, the massage was excellent, very strong rubbing, little bit oil use and lot’s of hot towels etc, just perfect, the petit girl #81 xiao ya. as been working really the sweat on her forehead.

when massaging on my belly and upper thighs she must have seen for sure my antenna up under the trousers as an indication i wanted more. during the mass. with the few words english she knows, she gives me so many personal compliments and indications that i thought that there was a chance for a happy end also. when she finally took the last hot towels from my back, she told me that he massage was over and she left the room, no chance for me to ask for something else. so guy’s, definitely a legitimate massage shop but the money worth, damage 258 rmb + small tip to the girl.

the next shop is 50m further in the street as a lot more fancy neon light, looks more like a fun place than massage only.

john euro

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Wujohn

10-04-07, 14:05

Hi there,

I tried to reply by using the quote button but nothing showed up.

Anyhow. Yes there is now a big emty space where the Dongfang Sauna used to be. Many happy memories from there but I heard that they have just upped and vanished. They had a sweet deal there for a long time with the working girls living in squalid dormitories next door and charging 2, 000rmb per girl (2 to a room). But that's the past.

The closest thing to the China World area is east of the third ring road along Tong Hui He North Road (east of the Avic Hotel). It is prominently advertised as a sauna and I have it on good authority that it is a house of I'll repute. HOWEVER, I am not recommending it as it looks a bit to obvious to me.

My biggest thing about Beijing is finding somewhere safe. I don't feel that place is safe but that's my personal paranoia. I'm just telling you where the location is so you do what you want!

For me, I have 3 locations which are all fairly central. However, they mostly won't accept foreigners unless you speak a bit of Chinese or you are taken in by a local or a Chinese looking guy (I am a Chinese looking guy who is also a regular).

The 3 places offer the same services as Oriental Sauna used to, ie body slide, hot/cold body lick, arse licking, finger sucking etc etc then BBBJ and FS. The range of girls is also as good as Oriental Sauna used to be. I've only ever had one occasion where I had 4 four girls to choose from and that was on a busy night. Typically, there are between 8 and 20+ girls available so no real problem finding someone to suit your taste, or your taste at the time. All three are located downstairs of a fairly mediocre 3 star hotel and are not obvious to the uninitiated.

There are two places to the North-East of the Forbidden City in the block to the East of Jingshan park. They have communal (ie men only) shower areas and then you go into a big lounge area where you have a cup of tea whereupon your manager arrives and takes you to a room. The rooms are just big enough for a lounge, a double bed and a TV. The cost is 1, 000RMB which is more than many places on the forum but you get as full service as full service will give you in an hour. Those of you who remember oriental sauna (as I fondly do) will note that the price is significantly less.

The other place is about a block East of the Crowne Plaza Wangfujing on the same street. They also have the same setup (communal shower) for the same cost. The only difference with this place is that they also have VIP rooms which cost 300RMB more but the girls come to the room and wash you. If you have ever been in the VIP rooms in Oriental Plaza, you will know that this is a really nice touch and worth the extra money, if only for the extra bit of privacy away rom the other punters and having the girl of your choice run her soapy hands all over you. And O I see E!

I also know of some other places to the South of Beijing where the cost is only 800RMB but you don't get to pick your girl and I've not been there once yet (I've been dragged there by friends 3 times now.) where I haven't had to wait at least 20+ minutes before being taken to the room. Granted it was during the busy period but I couldn't help but think that the girl I would be seeing when it was finally my turn would be tired and shagged out. To be fair however, they do remain professional and the service is a 7 (thereabouts) but the girls have varied (first time 5, second time 6, third time 6).

Happy Mongering friends.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Wujohn

10-04-07, 17:17

I thought my original posts didn't go through so I wrote it again. Sorry y'all.

Xdentx

10-05-07, 00:15

I've read in a straight forum that the above places are great for legit massage. Question: do you have to wear shorts or other clothing in these places when getting a oil massage?

Guide Fans

10-05-07, 02:45

Sebastian's maps with notations for places and prices are great help. Thanks a lot. This is my first post that I discovered ISG forum. It's great forums. Beijing is great places.

S Times

10-05-07, 05:06

What's the name of the sauna by CP WFJ?

Hi there,

I tried to reply by using the quote button but nothing showed up.

Anyhow. Yes there is now a big emty space where the Dongfang Sauna used to be. Many happy memories from there but I heard that they have just upped and vanished. They had a sweet deal there for a long time with the working girls living in squalid dormitories next door and charging 2, 000rmb per girl (2 to a room). But that's the past.

The closest thing to the China World area is east of the third ring road along Tong Hui He North Road (east of the Avic Hotel). It is prominently advertised as a sauna and I have it on good authority that it is a house of I'll repute. HOWEVER, I am not recommending it as it looks a bit to obvious to me.

My biggest thing about Beijing is finding somewhere safe. I don't feel that place is safe but that's my personal paranoia. I'm just telling you where the location is so you do what you want!

For me, I have 3 locations which are all fairly central. However, they mostly won't accept foreigners unless you speak a bit of Chinese or you are taken in by a local or a Chinese looking guy (I am a Chinese looking guy who is also a regular).

The 3 places offer the same services as Oriental Sauna used to, ie body slide, hot/cold body lick, arse licking, finger sucking etc etc then BBBJ and FS. The range of girls is also as good as Oriental Sauna used to be. I've only ever had one occasion where I had 4 four girls to choose from and that was on a busy night. Typically, there are between 8 and 20+ girls available so no real problem finding someone to suit your taste, or your taste at the time. All three are located downstairs of a fairly mediocre 3 star hotel and are not obvious to the uninitiated.

There are two places to the North-East of the Forbidden City in the block to the East of Jingshan park. They have communal (ie men only) shower areas and then you go into a big lounge area where you have a cup of tea whereupon your manager arrives and takes you to a room. The rooms are just big enough for a lounge, a double bed and a TV. The cost is 1, 000RMB which is more than many places on the forum but you get as full service as full service will give you in an hour. Those of you who remember oriental sauna (as I fondly do) will note that the price is significantly less.

The other place is about a block East of the Crowne Plaza Wangfujing on the same street. They also have the same setup (communal shower) for the same cost. The only difference with this place is that they also have VIP rooms which cost 300RMB more but the girls come to the room and wash you. If you have ever been in the VIP rooms in Oriental Plaza, you will know that this is a really nice touch and worth the extra money, if only for the extra bit of privacy away rom the other punters and having the girl of your choice run her soapy hands all over you. And O I see E!

I also know of some other places to the South of Beijing where the cost is only 800RMB but you don't get to pick your girl and I've not been there once yet (I've been dragged there by friends 3 times now.) where I haven't had to wait at least 20+ minutes before being taken to the room. Granted it was during the busy period but I couldn't help but think that the girl I would be seeing when it was finally my turn would be tired and shagged out. To be fair however, they do remain professional and the service is a 7 (thereabouts) but the girls have varied (first time 5, second time 6, third time 6).

Happy Mongering friends.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Wujohn

10-05-07, 08:05

I've read in a straight forum that the above places are great for legit massage. Question: do you have to wear shorts or other clothing in these places when getting a oil massage?Dragonfly is Excellent. Best legitimate massage I've been to in Beijing. I normally wear boxer shorts underneath.

Wujohn

10-05-07, 08:10

What's the name of the sauna by CP WFJ?In Chinese it is called the 现代假日酒店 (Xian Dai Jia Ri hotel). I don't recall the English name. The Sauna or exercise club as I think it is called is downstairs and is to the left next to the elevator. The elevators are opposite the front desk which is on the right as you walk in.

There is a dumpling (包子) shop and a China Merchants bank to the west of the hotel.

Be warned that they may not accept foreigners. Happy hunting!

Wujohn

10-05-07, 12:40

I've read in a straight forum that the above places are great for legit massage. Question: do you have to wear shorts or other clothing in these places when getting a oil massage?Forgot to mention that if you are regular build then they have robes and boxers. I am larger than the usual Chinese frame so I have to be prepared for most of the places I go.

Kachol

10-05-07, 13:36

I've read in a straight forum that the above places are great for legit massage. Question: do you have to wear shorts or other clothing in these places when getting a oil massage?Yes, you have to wear shorts. If you are doing a regular message you have to also wear a top.

Kachol

10-05-07, 13:42

Wujohn,

Thanks for the report and the info on the two saunas.

One question - do they accept international credit cards?

personally, I have been living in Beijing now for ten years and speak fluent Chinese. I never had an issue at Dangfang or any to other place.

Another old time favorite is Jiangsu Hotel. They offer great messages with a fantastic happy ending for about 500 RMB. Great place to go to relax.

FYI, Jiangsu Hotel also offers FS on a hidden 3rd floor. cost is about 800 RMB. quality is not great.

Wujohn

10-06-07, 04:08

Yes, you have to wear shorts. If you are doing a regular message you have to also wear a top.If you are doing regular massage then you just wear what you wear into the shop (jacket/jumpers excepted of course).

If you do oil massage then you have to go to a private room and they will have pyjamas.

Wujohn

10-06-07, 04:19

Wujohn,

Thanks for the report and the info on the two saunas.

One question - do they accept international credit cards?

personally, I have been living in Beijing now for ten years and speak fluent Chinese. I never had an issue at Dangfang or any to other place. CREDIT CARD AND BANK:

I've never tried to pay on international credit card. I know they will accept local credit card because that's what I use but give it a try. I don't know. Best to take some cash just in case. If you go to the one near Crowne Plaza WFJ then there is a China Merchants Bank about 30 m to the west. There is an Industrial and Commercial Bank close to the one to the east of Jingshan Park.

Another old time favorite is Jiangsu Hotel. They offer great messages with a fantastic happy ending for about 500 RMB. Great place to go to relax.

FYI, Jiangsu Hotel also offers FS on a hidden 3rd floor. cost is about 800 RMB. quality is not great.Jiangsu Hotel:

Are you talking about the one north of Andingmen? Near 蒋寨口 (Jiangzhaokou)?

There is also a sauna closer to Andingmen (200m - 300m north - I'm not that good with distances) next to Hainan Hotel (there are 2 banks downstairs - an agricultural bank and a china construction bank - for some reason I keep remembering these places by bank locations ??? gio figure). I can't remember the name of the place but its really obvious. They also have KTV and restauarant facilities. Funny thing about this place is that I went there and got a better than good but not great massage from a really attractive northern girl and then followed by a hj. I asked for full service but they refused. A few weeks later, I went to one of my regular places and I happened upon a girl who used to work at that place and she told me they had full service. She knew this because she used to work there. Maybe looking Chinese didn't help me. They may have thought I was undercover fuzz.... who knows. Anyone else try this place?

Wujohn

10-06-07, 05:02

you have probably all been to ktv of one sort or another. there is standard ktv where the hostess sits with you and sings, drinks, plays dice etc.

but i wanted to share with you a non-standard ktv. actually there are quite a lot of these in beijing but if you have never been, it’s quite entertaining.

firstly, these places are not as glamarous as many of the ktvs around town and the girls are generally pretty ordinary. finding a diamond in the rough is possible but there's a lot of rough. the locations is typically in the south and south west of beijing (2nd and 3rd ring road areas).

secondly, security is sometimes an issue so be careful. at least go with someone you know for the first few times if you can. i have had friends go (without me....) where the place got "raided" - the police basically come and check the girls ids and then stand out front or find some other way to harass the establishment but generally leave the guests alone.

before i get your hopes up there is no fs, bj or any other "activity" as such.

ok so what do you get?

after selecting your hostess, i suggest you have a few drinks to get to know your hostess and maybe sing a few songs. then get into the games. there are a lot of fun games to play, typically as part of a dice / drinking game of some sort (eg 7, 8, 9 where pairs are emperor and the emperor picks the game):

high mountain spring (高山流水): the girl takes her panties off, fills a glass half full, places it strategically between her legs and you have to drink from the glass without her or you using hands.

golf: take a small round fruit (eg a grape), have her lie down naked, place the grape on her throat and use your tongue to roll it to her navel. the other way to play, if she is willing and you are able, is to use your dick.

curtain fixing (贴窗连): the girl takes off her top and bra (or rolls down her dress to expose her breasts) and you have to use your tongue and saliva to stick a tissue on each of her nipples.

flower arranging (插花): the girl takes her panties off and you have to arrange 5 toothpicks in her pubic hair with your teeth. if you are classy enough, write a chinese word with the toothpicks!

seven styles of sex (做爱七像): both guy and girl strip to underpants / panties and perform 7 different sexual positions.

crawling over the bed (爬床): both guy and girl strip to underpants / panties and get into missionary position at one end of the lounge. the guy then “carries” the girl whilst still in missionary position, to the other end of the lounge. for encores, same again the other way but in cowgirl position.

there are at least another half dozen or more games the names of which don’t readily come to mind but i think you get the drift.

the girls will also perform various acts like opening beer bottles with their fannies (and a bottle opener), opening water bottles, smoking with their fannies, strip tease etc etc. i even used to have a mamasan who could write with her fanny (“恭喜发财”) which a friend of mine has prominently hung up on his office wall in australia. the best strip tease i ever saw was this young girl who, for her finale, poured beer all over her naked slithering body. a creative way to use the last of the beer we weren’t going to drink anyway.

cost depends on the size of room but for a 4 person room is around 400rmb which will include drinks up to the room cost. tips to the hostess are between 300rmb and 400rmb depending on where you go. the mamasan also gets a tip (same as the hostess) and the waiter gets 100rmb.

typically, you can also get take out for anywhere between 800rmb-1000rmb one pop or add 200rmb-500rmb for overnight. having said this, there are the rare occasions where the girls won’t go out so if you have this in mind when you start, be sure to ask your mamasan in advance to avoid disappointment.

not sure what else i can tell you other than have fun!

Ontario Boy

10-06-07, 18:14

Not sure what else I can tell you other than have fun!

Now that you have us all hot and bothered how about some names and addresses ??

Great report thanks

Infomatic

10-06-07, 20:58

Ok, I finally decided to go check your famous Wangjing.

Went to 417, down to the basement, there is a bar on the left. I walked all over the corridors, I saw on my right what might have looked like a bbs but kept going, further down another what looked like a bbs but kept going, I had a kick at this basement. Messing around in those narrow corridors so I didn't push any of the two the glass doors, . I noticed that actually folks live in the basement. They are a dozen of are tiny rooms.

Went back up and moved to 414, this time I went up to the building main entrance. The guard opened the door for me, I made a right turn, knocked on the bbs, the laoban was there. Welcomed me and left. 5 girls, one old covered with tattoos. I was immediately offered "sex", I smiled, said yes, how much = 300 kuais.

So here we go = yes fs is possible at wangjing. I don't know how good it is. Haha!

The girls:

All friendly, one was close to 18, I gave here a 4.

Another was a 4

The old one was a 6

The other a 5.

And the other was an 8, she really wanted to be FK, I could tell, or she was showing off because she knows she is hot.

BUT she had a bossy attitude, and that is a big no-no.

I bargained.golden rule- 200RMB, sorry we cannot.

They went on and on talking to each others, "normally its 750 said one, the other said no 500, the old reassure the youngs, no it is 300". I had a kick at their very serious discussion.

Anywho, I left, they were nice, polite, laughing, smiling.

I didn't asked about shower, take out, how long or else.

It was Saturday. Passed midnight, well Sunday AM then. Those places are open 24h. I counted 5 BBS open.

So after the cool Wangjing experience, I drove to see one of my fav near the Asian village, the tightest body ever seen in BJ, too tight for my finger. I still cannot give her DATY. But getting closer to it, she keeps saying "its bad! " So we played as usual, she was wet as usual, very GFE, happy handing 150 Kuais. Tonight I told here she must come to my place, she agreed on 300, we will see that.

Another place:

I have my routine, pass 4th ring road, north, but to get to where I go you need a motorcycle, forget the taxi, and your car will not like the dirt, muddy road condition, also places too narrow for cars.

27. 37 years old women, no fashion, or typical local. But DFK, BBBJ, BBBJTC, BBBJWF, BLS, CIM, all FK positions possible, one actually will give me Analinus one of this days.

I can always take my time, so far all are GFE. They really enjoy it. 100 kuais Sir! [No I did forget a zero].

Beer 1. 5 Kuais, bring your own Whiskey.

Nothing glamorous, dangerous neighborhood, but I always have a kick at this area.

Have fun, be safe, keep smiling, I am a loner, so far so good.

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Tiger 888

10-06-07, 22:31

...High mountain spring ( 高山流水 )...
...Curtain fixing ( 贴窗连 )...
...Flower arranging ( 插花 )...
...Seven styles of Sex ( 做爱七像 )...
...Crawling over the bed ( 爬床 )...
I Just want to make your Chinese readable. Don't forget to always put a space between the last character and the bracket or the smilies hit.

Wujohn

10-07-07, 03:43

I Just want to make your Chinese readable. Don't forget to always put a space between the last character and the bracket or the smilies hit.Thanks,

I'm new at this forum stuff so appreciate your patience.

Wujohn

10-07-07, 04:15

Now that you have us all hot and bothered how about some names and addresses ??

Great report thanksI always ring my mamasan in advance so I cannot vouch for your experiences.

I've been to about a dozen or so places but the 3 I tend to go back to are:

Baoshan 保山 KTV (next to Baoshan Hotel): sorry I don't know the exact address because I usually call my mamasan and she tells the taxi driver where to go. I know its in the south-west near 菜市口 within the second ring road area。 This place has the nicest selection of girls but not all of them are as good at entertaining. Takeout success rate fair but not consistent.

圣德堡 (Sheng De Bao- sorry don't know the English name but its south second or third ring road). This place has a good selection of eager girls. Takeout success rate good.

Red Dragon 红龙 (Hung Lung) KTV - again south-west near 菜市口.
Go west from the North gate of 陶然亭公园 (Tao Ran Ting Park) about 250m and its inside a side street to the South. Not easily spotted but you can see the entrance from the street. Large selection of girls but not so many 7s or 8s but all very eager to please and take out success rate high.

There are also 3 at the western end of 两广路 straddling 广安门 (Guang An Men) on either side of the West second ring road. One of them is in the Shenzhen hotel so its really easy to spot. One of them is to the West of the Shenzhen Hotel. The other is on the North Eastern side of the 广安门 (Guang An Men) .... I think it is the 广安门 (Guang An Men) Hotel but I could be mistaken because its been ages since I've been there or any of the other 2.

As I mentioned before, ask your mamasan in advance if you want takeout. Actually, I would recommend asking in advance even if you think you might because that way you can always say no later rather than get all hot and bothered only to be rejected at the end (I'm not bitter..... I just don't want anyone else to feel the hollow void that I felt, if only for those few minutes between there and the sauna ;-) ).

Now, an offer to Beijing forum readers: I read the Beijing forum with a lot of interest but must admit that my interest in the bar and pub scene is at best by proxy through the forum, ie reading about it is a far as I go mainly because with what's on offer, I don't feel like the hunt is as interesting when I could just as easily be treated like a king for the same (ok maybe slightly more) money. But I am curious to go out for a few beers at Maggies or some other happy hunting ground and would be prepared to extend the same courtesy to what I know about Beijing. If anyone is interested, let me know. We'll need to plan well in advance as I travel extensively and sometimes at very short notice.

Zhuren

10-07-07, 08:37

Zhuren

10-07-07, 08:45

Word on the Lu in Beijing is that the pre-party congress purges are taking their toll. Of the notorious expat hangouts, both the Pig and Hollywood were raided. Supposedly 40 girls arrested on various charges. (Give or take a few, reliable numbers are always hard to come by ..)

Wujohn

10-07-07, 16:10

Has anyone heard of this? Is it for real? I would like to know from some like minded enthusiasts before I jump in.

Da Bot

10-08-07, 05:56

...I wanted to check out the 2 places I have seen before. When walking from the Regent hotel traffic lights (Jin Bao street), they are in the first alley on your right just pass the Novotel and across the Lee Garden hotel, (Think, Jin Yu Tong Wang Fujing Str.) they have neon signs, thought I check out the price at both places first but when walking in the alley I was approached by several pimps trying to sell a massage, couldn’t get rid of them and walked straight in the first decent place on the right nr massage 81, wide open doors, a long aisle in the lower level with all the rooms L & are, lot’s of girls around, so this looks safe to me.
There's an alley next to the Taiwan hotel, near the Novotel, that takes you past a foot massage place and to another alley. Turn right and go almost out to the main street. About a half-dozen doors from the end of the alley, on the right, is a BBS where I have always been able to get FS. Unfortunately, it's too close to the tourist district, so the prices are high: 800 RMB for FS, and they will probably ask for 1200. Still, I've found an 8 in there on occasions, and some good service.

Sammy_T

10-08-07, 08:54

You have probably all been to KTV of one sort or another. There is standard KTV where the hostess sits with you and sings, drinks, plays dice etc.

But I wanted to share with you a non-standard KTV. Actually there are quite fun....

Wujohn -

Great post! I just want to let you and others know that all of the games you describe are available at the KTV I have posted about near the Lido Hotel. This might be easier for those staying in the north part of the city to visit.

Sammy

Linkun

10-08-07, 11:50

Anyone there tried the massage service or home call in SOHO Building Complex Beijing?

Pls share your experiences.

Thks

Sammy_T

10-08-07, 12:59

I decided to make another trip to the Sunshing Golden Top Spa Club. Had the same great sauna experience I had the first time. Went upstairs to the massage room. A girl who was not too cute came in and asked me in Chinese if I wanted a massage. I asked for the boss. The boss came in and she could speak a little English. She asked what kind of massage. I said “special massage” and she quoted me 1300 RMB! I said “no, no, last time only 400 RMB” and she said, “oh, you want an oil massage”. I then asked about the special massage, and she told me it included full service. The special massage was for 90 minutes, and included the cost of the VIP room. I asked if I could pick the girl, and she said yes. Even though it was expensive I decided to take one for the team in the name of research and opted for the special massage. The boss brought in a group of 4 girls to choose from, and she told me they all would do the special massage. The girl from my first visit was not in the lineup, but there was one cutie, so I picked her.

First thing she did was undress me, but she stayed dressed. I got on my stomach and she stated with a nice massage, and a little chit-chat in Chinese. After massaging my back she had me roll over and started doing an oil massage on my front, focusinig on my little brother who was at attention. Much to my dismay I popped very quickly. Damn – what a waste of 1300 RMB. She smiled and said “so quick” in Chinese, but in a nice, cute way. She then pointed at the condom as if to say “we were going to go all the way!”

There was still 30 minutes left on the clock, and she continued to provide a very nice body massage. After about 15 minutes she started to give my little brother more attention to see if she could wake him. Yep! Out came the condom and we had a very nice session. One interesting thing about this sauna is that the girls do not wear sexy dresses, they are all in uniforms. When they “get down to business” they just remove their panties and pull up their skirt. It gives you the feeling you are having sex with a flight attendant. I liked it, so I did not ask her to take off all her clothes, but I think she would have had I asked. I would not admit my “quickness” except I wanted to point out her willingness to complete the job rather than the one-pop-and-your-done rule.

All-in-all I would say that the sauna at the Golden Top is better, and if you are just after a HJ it is a very good value. The full service is very GFE, but more expensive and not as extensive as it is at the Chun Xiu Lu Sauna. At Chun Xiu Lu when you order the special massage you get the whole package including body slide, fire and ice, ect., but I am certain that the one-pop-and-your-done rule is in effect.

I look forward to trying out some of the other saunas that have been recently posted. As I do I will certainly post my review.

Sammy

WayneGrow

10-08-07, 13:47

Dunnigan

10-08-07, 17:04

Can anyone advise if there is anything going on out in the Haidan District by Jade Palace.

Sorry, but have been unable to find anything previously reported.

Thanks

Zhuren

10-08-07, 19:58

Anyone there tried the massage service or home call in SOHO Building Complex Beijing?

Pls share your experiences.

Thks

There are five, six, count 'em, God knows how many SOHOs in BJ. All built by peasant-turned-tycoon Pan Shiyi, who puts Donald Trump to shame. At least two SOHOs host several MPs (and they rest of them probably will if they don't already do: )

- Jian Wai SOHO, opposite China World
- SOHO New Town, at Dawang Lu subway station. SOHO New Town also hosts a curious assortment of hostess clubs catering to Japanese salarymen.

Sam247

10-08-07, 23:18

Anyhow, it's 5:00 am, I just got back from Maggie's and I feel I should write a post about my bad experience. Maybe I should call it a 'learning experience'. It's my first field report so bare with me.

I have been in Beijing for 4 weeks now. It's my second time at Maggie's. The first time was my first night after arrving to Beijing and I decided have some fun to welcome my new home for the next few months. I was in and out in Maggies in 30 minutes. Picked up a Mongolian wearing an American Flag dress. Her name was Yanyan. A bit pudgy, average face but very good attitude. The damage was 1200 yuan for 3 pops, BBBJCIM, titty f*ck and cum on face. Would not repeat as she promised to stay the whole night but bailed out at 5am after getting a phone call. (see gallery for pics)

A bit about me: mid 20s (shit I was probably the youngest guy at Maggie's), Chinese background, born and raised in Canada. Speaks no Mandarin. Here to learn the language. And I will say above average looks compare to the typical skinny Chinese dudes with faggy hair and long finger nails. The proof is that I have been getting regular freebies and batting around. 500 at clubbing exercusions in Beijing. I kid you not.

I stayed away from Maggie's the last 3 weeks as I my freebies from school and clubbing at VICS and MIX were keeping me satisfied. My Chinese girlfriend of the week decided to play hard to get tonigth so I decided check out Maggie's for the 2nd time. Do do enjoy P4P from time to time as it is a different kind of experience. Life is all about experiences, is it not?

I arrived alone at Maggies around 1:30 am. The picking was slim tonight. Maybe because it was a Monday. All the 8's and above were Chinese bar girls. Some of girls in the club I wouldn't do even if they were freebies.

I had a few targets. First, a tail Mongolian in a silver dress with hairstyle like Gogo Yubari. (the school girl in Kill Bill) I danced with her. Her name was Olgi or Olvi. I bought her a 50 kuai whiskey and coke. When it was time to talk she quoted 1000 for an hour. I wanted the standard 800 for the night. She wouldn't bulge so I moved on.

My second target was a very very skinny Mongolian wearing tight jeans, white collar tees and a very distinctive tramp stamp tattoo of a dragon. I called it a Tramp Stamp as it is located on the lower back; indicative of a trend gone bad. Later I got her name: Aica. Aica was the alpha female for the night. She was an 8, but with the slim pickings, I elevated her to a 9. I wanted her as I was feeling like pounding a cute 90 pounder. The problem was that Aica was in an Entourage with three other Mongolian girls. I will called them Group of Four from here on. They all told me their names but I couldn't care less as they were all 6 and below. I only wanted Aica.

At around 3 am, I met a German fellow and we shoot the shit. I asked the German guy to be my wingman and hit up the Group of Four again. The German guy didn't want any of the other 3 girls so he moved on leaving me with the entourage. Aica was pretty much the only reason anyone would even talked to the Group of Frour. One of the Entourage, a pudgy girl with a Detroid Red Wings jacket (hereon RedWingJacket) wanted me to buy her a drink. I of course didn't want to. Get your own overprived drink be*tch, but because of Aica I bought everybody a round. Another 35 kuai X 4 down the drain.

RedWingJacket was making a fuss that I looked Chinese and think I was faking it. I guess my perfect English wasn't enough. She keeps interrogating with stupid questions and asking questions in Chinese thinking I understand but pretending not to. F*cking racist see*nt. I'll digress as Mainland Chinese men do have a bad rep. RedWingJacket got mad at me as I told her to stop it with all the questions.

Aica and I danced. I wanted her and I can tell she wanted me. Ok, she's a working girl. But still. I asked her to come to my apartment and she was willing to. RedWingJacket said something and the Entourage all discussed in Mongolian talk. At 4am when the lights came on I walked out with Aica and the Entourage. All of sudden Aica changed the plan to go to her apartment with the Group of Four instead of mine. It was because RedWingJacket no doubt. I can tell it was trouble. The Entourage are going to milk me for everything I got. Before entering the cab, RedWingJacket said we should go out and eat. "Shit", I thought. I just want to f*ck Aica, not a date with a mongolian tribe. I told Aica, "I only want you for the night. " From the looks in her eyes she knows but can't do anything about her friend as they are cock blocking by trying to attach on. In the end I did not enter the cab with the Entourage. Doing a brief estimate I can tell it will be expensive if I do. Meal for five. Cabs home. Then the negotiation. I am on a fixed budget and I would rather not spend over 2000 for something I get for free.

Lessons Learned:

- don't hit up a girl with an Entourage of Fuglies. The fuglies won't get pick up for the night, making them jealous and will try to attach to you.

On another note, I can't believe I got cock blocked by a wh*re.

I still want Aica and if anybody know her, do send me a PM with her number.

Sam247

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Intransit

10-09-07, 03:18

One Eyed Man

10-09-07, 04:28

I was recently in Beijing, and having been advised of the un-girl friendliness of the Sheraton, stayed at the St. Regis. I was a bit embarrassed by the butler service, but they came through for me when I needed a shirt ironed first thing in the morning.

The good news is that the hotel is about a 10-minute walk from Maggie’s. It came in handy, since at the beginning I was jet lagged and was waking up at 2 a.m., and Maggie’s was in full swing. The St. Regis is located in the embassy section of Beijing, so the neighborhood felt ultra-safe, though a bit strange when the Chinese army troops and drilling on the sidewalks around Ritan Park.

After having read so much about Maggie's, I was worried about finding the place and approached it with trepidation. It’s smack-dab in the middle of the park entrance and hard to miss. I walked in, past the hot-dog stand and entered the bar. When you enter the bar area, there is a long bar and a lounge area to your far left, but it was seldom occupied; to the right is a DJ and a pool table, but it’s partially obscured by columns. I sat down and ordered a beer.

I was also really looking forward to seeing Mongolians. There they were. They ranged from stunningly beautiful with traditional Asian features to … unusual looking. It’s hard to explain, but most of them have a kind of rugged beauty—it’s all in and around the eyes. One was very aggressive at the bar, and there was also this sweet Kazakh girl who also was quite extroverted, but didn’t seem to get any action.

As I sat drinking my Tsing Tao, I saw a few of the bar girls behind the bar, and one came over to talk to me. I think it isn’t mentioned enough that the bar girls range from cute to drop-dead sexy. I ended up talking to a couple of the cute ones, and they’re irresistible. Of course, they want to order the most expensive fancy drink for about RMB 100, and the bartender *pretends* to pour alcohol in it. With their smidgen of English and my similar Mandarin, we could basically communicate (and a pocket language dictionary helped.)

The problem is, the bar girls are clingy, and once they get your hooks in you, it’s hard (and embarrassing) to tear yourself away to go talk to the Mongolians. The first night, I gave up the hunt and went home alone. I did get the cell number and e-mail onr Maggie’s girl, so it isn’t that hard to date them. This one wanted to come home and move in with me.

My second time, the first girl was out of town, but I got snagged by a very cute and petite bar girl and struck out again. Finally, on my third try, I fended off an aggressive Mongolian but was spotted by the cute petite girl and had to buy her a couple of drinks (plus tips.) Finally, around closing time, I pretended to leave and ended up talking to a Mongolian while hiding around the coat-check exit, and we took the 2-minute cab ride to the St. Regis, entering from the Sizzler side so as not to be seen. She was a bit on the petite side, again with a ruggedly handsome face, but she stayed over for 800 RMB, and it was a great GFE. Also, she spoke terrific English, since it was related to her career.

I’m dying to come back and try to talk to some of the hotter bar girls and get to know more of the Mongolians. There was also one female bartender there who was utter perfection.

One Wing Low

10-09-07, 06:20

Will be in Beijing for a few days.

Any bro wanna hook up for some fun in town? Would appreciate a quick orientation tour of Beijing. Will buy you a few drinks.

Please PM me for my mobile number.

Sebastian My

10-09-07, 14:19

I read that some Korean work in Hollywood. I've never seen any Koreans there.
Could someone please elaborate on that? Where are they to be found in HW,what's their service like and how much do they charge?

Thank you for any information.

There are a number of regular girls who claim they are Korean. However I can speak a bit of Korean and have never found anyone who could speak more than a few words - so perhaps they are racially Korean but were born in china ? In all cased their pudongwa was excellent. They sit on the far side of the bar from the entrance, in with the Russians. There are a few who I think are very nice, but i have never partaken. I tend to stick to Russians or Uzbec's in Hollywood.

One Wing Low

10-09-07, 23:37

I am in Beijing this week. Any way you can share the tel of this model or where she can be found?

I met some very beautiful Chinese girls in SZ and SH. Just wonder what you meant by 'classic beauty.'

Went around the bars in SH with a bro. Bourbon Street had 2 very pretty Chinese girls, one young, the other is probably 30.

Went to Hollywood disco the other day at around 9:30pm. Quantity of girls was definitely outweighing the number of mongers, most of them being Chinese just watching the female crowd. After a beer I decided to walk around the place and stumbled upon a looker standing at the bar.One of those few of a kind classic beauties, almost breathtaking.

I chatted her up and invited her for a drink. Turns out she's a model from Harbin who came to Beijing two years ago. And a model she is. 1.74m tall, slim and busty, very nice skin and a beautiful face. 9 on the scale.

I got her number afterwards and I am sure I will call her someday soon. Not for the service as it was average, but for she is an extremely beautiful WG.
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New SH Goer

10-10-07, 04:07

Sammy_T

10-10-07, 04:23

I was in the Pig on Monday night. I spoke to the bar tender and he confirmed that they were raided last Monday. Basically the police asked to see all of the girl’s passports and the Mongolian girls had their visas limited to 10 more days. There were still girls in the Pig monday (both Chinese and Mongolian) but the numbers were down. It was one of the few nights in my memory where the guys out numbered the girls, so I am sure it was a sellers market.

I also spoke to another western friend who was out with his legitimate Chinese girlfriend. They were pulled over by the police at a check point, and they wanted to know what the two of them were doing together. Since they had know each other for a long time they were able to convince the cop it was nothing illegal, but the police did write down the girls ID card number.

I think I encountered Sam247’s entourage at the Pig. One cute girl Mongolian, and 3 larger, unattractive friends. The cute girl was chatting up a guy when I left, so it would not surprise me if she got business at The Pig and was less motivated to go with you later in the evening. She probably stayed out only to help her friends find business. I have found that attractive girls often surround themselves with unattractive ones simply out of insecurity. They want to be the focus of attention, and they stand out among their unattractive friends. At the same time the unattractive ones hope to capiatialze on the attention their friend draws to the group. Sam247 did the right thing by not going back to their place, or taking them to a late night snack. I think the others were just trying to take advantage of his generosity. I would suggest next time to try and cut the attractive one away from the group, and ask her to leave before the lights come on (always around 4 on a week night). Another option is to simply give the friends a couple hundred RMB to go away, saying something like “I want to take your friend, but I have enjoyed your company. Here are some tips.” Yes, it is cash out of your pocket, but at least you can then dismiss the friends. If they come back and hit you up for more drinks, ect, you can just joke with them and say “hey, I already gave you some money!”.

I plan to meet a few friends out tonight, so if anyone would like to get together PM me your mobile number and I will send you a text. We will probably start out in the Lido area, and go from there.

Sammy

Bad Boy Billy

10-10-07, 09:41

I will be in Beijing for 1 week. There are a lot of reports here but it will take me the whole week to read them through. Anyone can recommend to me where (and the address please) to have fun, given the short time that I have there?

For fucks sake mate - you will be in Beijing 1 week?

Here is all the advice you need - READ THE FUCKING FORUM.

Do a search for Maggies, The Pig, Hollywood - there your week or indeed the REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE wll be fully occupied.

Bad Boy Billy

10-10-07, 09:53

Sam247,

Your post is exactly the kind of thing I like to see from new contributors. You went out and did your own research, had your own experience, and then shared a full report with the assembled brethren. Thank you and welcome, Brother Sam. We need more fresh blood like you.

Billy would like to re-indorse comments from Intransit and Sammy T - Sam247 you have leapt to legendary status already.

As Sammy T said - 'shoo' the other girls away from the one that you 'cut from the herd'.

I would not be so gentle as Sammy suggested - rather would just tell them to fuck off - do not worry - your girl would stick with you if she smells money.

What a shame that you were not in company with Sammy, Zhuren or even myself tha night in Maggies - we would have soon saddled you up wit a gem of a performer - but by the sounds of it mate you need no help.

Billy is just shitty I am not there with you to help you in Maggies - or indeed to go to Vic's or Mix with you to pick up some of your cast offs.

Sammy, Intransit, Zhuren - oh to be a 20something guy in Vic's or Mix now with a bit of experience - such is life.

Sam247 - keep up the good work - drop Sammy T or Zhuren a pm - they would love to share some time with you.

Infomatic

10-10-07, 10:56

I would like to apologize for my previous report, with unexecusable typos.

Please read 5th Ring Road and not 4th Ring Road.

Zhuren

10-10-07, 17:06

There was also one female bartender there who was utter perfection.

Don't anyone get any ideas about her. She's the hardest working person in a bar of hard working people. Always cheery, always nice. When you are there, buy her a drink - or better, give her a tip. They don't make much money behind the bar.

Member #3421

10-10-07, 22:59

Billy would like to re-indorse comments from Intransit and Sammy T - Sam247 you have leapt to legendary status already.

I agree. I'm now relegated to "lurker" status, but this is the only board I read. Bravo, Sam247: I wish I could buy you a beer. And Sammy, and BBB, and Zhuren, and...

Some interesting comments in various threads about the recent crackdowns. If I understand correctly, this is most likely a "People's Congress" thing, not a "pre-Olympics" thing at this point? More specifically, if I were to return in December, are things expected to be back to normal?

NBG

One Wing Low

10-11-07, 02:09

Went to Maggies about 9PM. There were 2 dozen guys and about the same number of girls hanging out drinking. Many thanks to Sammy_t who set me up and gave me directions. I wished I could have joined the bros for their KTV session but was delayed at a business dinner.

A young Chinese girl named Yolanda approached me, had a long conversation in decent English. She's above average in looks, probably better looking than most in the place, dressed conservatively in pants and dark blouse. Said she's first year student at a local school and likes to hang out at Maggies for the music and to meet foreign friends. Her friend April also came over and talked.

I offered to buy her a drink but she declined, saying she does not like to drink. She mentioned about the many Mongolian girls in the place, and said she knows who are good and bad etc...After a while, I asked her too go home with me, she just smiled and declined, suggesting I try the Mongolians. So she's not a WG, probably trolling for a rich foreign husband.

Found Kenna by the wall drinking and smiling at me. Quickly approached her after the rejected attempt with Yolanda. She's young, thin, light complexion and pretty with the typical Mongolian looks. She wore a sweater and torn jeans. We exchanged pleasantries with her constant broad smiles. Said her name is Kanny because her Mongolian name is very long, like 10 syllables... She said 20 YO, been in Beijing about 2 months, sharing an apartment with another girl. I asked her to go home with me. She wanted to know how much I would offer, which I said it's up to her. She said 800RMB for the night and I accepted. Seems like normal rate for Beijing. We took a taxi back. She said her parents have 5 children back in Mongolia and have to work very hard. We were kissing and groping in the taxi.

She has a decent body with baby fat, light, soft, flawless skin, small boobies with small nipples. I was DFK and sucking on her nipples, and caressing her young body. She seemed to get turned on by my dick, playing and staring at it. She seemed to look forward to the sex, making all the right moves and noises. Had a long session and she seemed to enjoy it. Looked like she had multiple orgasms, each time she would squirm, moan and alternately claw my back, grab my butts and pull me into her. She was definitely very affectionate, but the most passionate girl in bed for me so far was a young girl in SZ.

The nice thing about all nighter is that the girl wont rush you to go back for more tricks, so the sex feels less commercialized and enjoyable for both parties. Had another session the next morning and sent her home.

She was my first Mongolian. It was a very nice session, like a date, almost GFE. Many thanks to the bros who made me aware of the special Mongolian treats at Maggies.

Loveasiangirls

10-11-07, 03:57

I come to China often but always dealt with freebies (so many of them if you have the time and patience for the internet). As a friend is also coming to Beijing next week for his first trip, I guess I'll have to sacrifice myself and take him to Maggie (as it seems to be the best place based on this forum).

Just wondering about those Mongolians. How can you spot them. What are the "typical Mongolian features" that I am reading about?

Nobody Doe

10-11-07, 06:47

After a 3-week long home vacation in Taiwan, I finally got back in town on Oct 9. I went to a KTV near Lido with Sammy_T last night (Oct. 10), then he went to the Maggies and I went to another KTV to directly take a girl out (know the Mamasan) for 2000RMB LT.

I read a Chinese forum that it's the regular price for LT if you take girls out from a KTV which you pay 400RMB for tipping the girls. Basically Beijing KTV "tiering" is divided by the price of tipping: 200, 300, 400, and 500 (I. E. The Passions), and the price for ST and LT are also different for each "tier. "

My wife will be back to Beijing on Friday afternoon, so tonight (Oct. 11) will be my last night of freedom (I am not sure when my wife will be out of town), so I welcome anyone to PM me (Zhuren, Sammy_T, etc. You guys know my cellular phone number) if you are available tonight for some actions.

Cheers,

Taiwan Guy

Bad Boy Billy

10-11-07, 07:41

One Wing Low

10-11-07, 07:59

They look like Eskimos, with high cheek bones and protruding eyes, like half Asian, half Caucasian. Kenna has very light skin, so she looks more like American.

You can always ask the girls if they are Chinese or Mongolian. There is no offense in that, although what I heard from the Chinese girls are that, they tend to look down on Mongolians as people with lower morals, like people in the political capital looking down on a bunch of hillbillies.

I come to China often but always dealt with freebies (so many of them if you have the time and patience for the internet). As a friend is also coming to Beijing next week for his first trip, I guess I'll have to sacrifice myself and take him to Maggie (as it seems to be the best place based on this forum).

Just wondering about those Mongolians. How can you spot them. What are the "typical Mongolian features" that I am reading about?

Nobody Doe

10-11-07, 08:27

I just realized the subscription need about 24 hours to be activated. So even you guys read my post for KTV action tonight (Oct 11), you guys won't be able to PM me until Friday, when my wife will be back in Beijing.

And Jackson need to review my post too. So probably my post for action will be displayed in the mid-night of Oct 11 Beijing time as well, which is also too late.

Anyway, please wish me best luck for mongering the one last night!

One Wing Low

10-11-07, 08:40

Damn the business. I moved to a hotel near Tian An Mon fo rthe convenience of eating, drinking and screwing...

I am looking for a few bros to do dinner then the bars together. Please PM me.

Hchan

10-11-07, 14:35

Greetings all bros. Will be in Beijing until next Friday and would like to join some bros to Maggie's etc. Any plans to meet this Friday?

Zhuren

10-11-07, 19:14

Mark17

10-12-07, 15:17

Does anyone know what the deal is with the downstairs at the Cafe Del Mar... the bar located near the Lido Hotel. I heard they offer massage, but have never seen anything going on.

Any info on what they offer, where the girls are, and the cost would be appreciated.

Bishop1975

10-12-07, 17:08

Hi,

I will be in Beijing next month. It's my first time.

Can anyone give me some address which find nice girls?

I will stay in xuanwu district.

If there are some massage parlours full service, it's welcome.

Thanks for all.

One Wing Low

10-12-07, 18:39

long story, guys. do not read it if you are only interested in quickies...

did the long walk inside the forbidden palace all afternoon with a very pretty chinese girl met in business. we were walking hand in hand talking sweet talk all afternoon. i was very hopeful. she was so pretty, smart, educated, gentle and sweet that i would love to spend a lot of time with. at the end, she casually mentioned that she got married a month ago...she does not wear a wedding ring so i think she was just blowing me off.

had to take a very long walk around the perimeter of the palace to look for taxi but they could not stop to pick up. finally had to cramp into a bus, paying 2y to go anywhere away from the tightly forbidding palace. the bus did not go more than 3 miles to get in a very poor part of beijing. i got off to find a taxi back to the hotel; they still could not stop to pick up. i walked into a very long and grimy alley of a working class neighborhood, with stores, communal restrooms and a few back packers hostels. finaly found the street where taxi could pick up. went back to the hotel to recharge.

took a 50y taxi ride to dadong kaoja dian, supposedly the best peking duck in town. it has very big menu and wine list. the duck would cost 180y and have to wait 1 hour. forget it. took another 50y taxi ride to hollywood disco. just took the maps sebatian my posted in isg and point ed to the chinese name to the cab driver. it works great. many thanks to sebastian for his maps, otherwise my sexcapade in bejing would have been fucked. the driver dropped me off at the wrong spot. had to ask locals for directions and walked 3 long blocks. the area is predominantly russian with stores and hotels with russian signage. the streets were pretty dark, deserted and scary at times.

finally found it at around 11pm. hollywood is across the street on the west side of ritan park. has a lot of colorful neon lights and a big 'hollywood' neon sign on the third floor. cannot miss it. costed 40y admission. beers are 35y but they only sell budweiser. wtf. there were about 15 girls in the place, blonde russians, mongolians and a few chinese. there were about 2 dozen chinese and taiwanese hanging out. no other foreigners spotted.

the girls here are significantly younger and better-looking than those at maggies. they mostly dress conservatively in jeans and blouses. no revealing clothes. even the mongolians are young, tight, pretty. the russian girls are taller but look higher mileage, some even skanky. the girls would walk around, lean against the walls, showing off their goods, trying to make eye contacts with the johns. the pretty mongolian girl came right over exchaging pleasantries, then asked me if i wanna go 'make love.' i asked and she said 800y for one shot and 2000y for all night. this is close to 3 times maggie's rates. i asked a good-looking chinese and got the same exact rate. they must be members of beijing's sisterhood of hookers...

come to think of it, i've had a few young, fresh, petite, very pretty, classy russians for $100-150 in los angeles a few years back. one of them looked just like natasha kinsky. she used to tell me to fuck her harder and faster and dont even slo down to catch my breath lest it screws up her orgasms...hehehe. that russian girl was hot and horny. the ruskies at hollywood disco just did not look good and fresh enough for me at any price.

in walked a young and better-looking chinese girl, slinky like a doll. she did look the best in the whole joint with her pretty, sweet, innocent face and her skinny frame. went asked her about rates and got the same big numbers. she spoke decent english. offered her 1500y but she would not budge, asking 1800y, my hotel or her place... she was good looking enough that i felt she was worth the money. would probably pay those rate only for her and the pretty mongolian girl. the rest was just not worth the time or money. i would rather save my money for the 150y shenzhen sweethearts. finally asked her to go st for 800y. took the car in front, paid the driver 50y which is about the same rate as taxi. damn, everything in beijing is expensive.

inside she looked worse in the bright light. she has a pretty face with a few pimples, nice, long legs, big round c boobies slightly drooping. wanted to take pics but she declined. she wanted money upfront and would not take us$100, saying it's not 800y. her body and skin were very nice. had a nice, long session without the benefits of that planned peking duck. she started with cbj, commenting about my alleged big dick. i laid her down, sucking on her tits, rubbing her clit. she seemed to enjoy my hand job, closing her eyes, moaning and hissing, but occasionally got sensitive and pushed my hand away. should remember to use lube with the hand job. she then climbed on top cowgirl for a while.

she was tight and wet, a very nice fit actually. finally pinned her down for some good missionry pounding. she clearly enjoyed missionary a lot more as her moaning, hissing, squirming, rolling her head...all quickened every time i speeded up my thrusts. i stopped to look at her pussy, nice, tight, neat and pink with no excess labia and just a small puff of hairs on top. she told me to hurry as she had to go back. resumed pounding that tight pussy real hard for another 10 minutes. she was moaning, hissing, panting, sweating real hard as she came. she just lied there, closed her eyes and panted for a few more minutes...

asked her if she wanted to eat at the place nerby. she declined, saying she had to go back to work...

will try the pig tonight, may be picking a nice girl for the night before returning to sz to party with the bros. sz is by far the most fun and the best bang for the buck. my trip proves that isg's info is very powerful and the local bros are exceptionally helpful. it's very nice to go to a city the first time and being able to find and close deals with some of the best-looking local girls.

many thanks for the fine bros who made my trip to bj successful. would be happy to reciprocate when appropriate.

Oreally

10-12-07, 23:58

Had two days off in a row (which is rare for me), so I had three. But not at the same time.

Went to Hollywood and a Mongolian girl (young, beautiful and nice rack for a smallerish frame) whom I had met on a previous visit and bought a drink for, was eyeballing me. I thought OK, how can I refuse?

She was standing with friends nearby and I knew what she liked to drink, so I bought her one. She was immediately by my side asking if I wanted to go to her place (her sister was staying with her last time and it was not an option then), of course, I accepted.

Come to find out she lives relatively close to where I am staying. Which is a really good thing for me because I work the night shift and some daytime action nearby is exactly what I have been looking for. Not to mention she is very good looking.

Soon found out she had a tight puss and her tits were "remarkable". She ran to the other room saying "I have a dictionary and I am going to see what that is". After she told me to describe my "remark", I whistled and said "very nice". Pointing to her tits. They seemed to be the type that had no droop, but were still pretty large. You know the term is to "defy gravity".

Nice session, her cbj lasted only a minute before I was pulling her on top of me. Have to say, the tightest I have had for awhile.

Her on top, doggie, and me on top, and that was about it. She is a beaut and sexy.

Unfortunately for me, she left the next day to go to Mongolia but told me she would return on Sunday. I told her I would long time her on my next day (night) off. "OKAY".

I had been shopping earlier in the day and would had converted a short time into a long time right there on the spot but I had withdrawn my limit for the day and told her I could not get more from the ATM until tommorrow.

OK, no problem, I get dressed and she showers and changes for the trip back to Hollywood. We part and I try the ATM again just for the heck of it. Nope.

So, it is late, I go and sleep. Next night, back to Hollywood. My encounters with girls that come to the bar stool next to you and look in your direction is soon to get me in trouble again. This was a previous offender, as I took her ST but it was not "remarkable" and I felt It was not worth the post.

However, since the girl was so friendly, we left for a short time again. Well, the short time lasted until 2 AM the following morning.

Now, I get back, sleep, awake at about 6 AM, have to got to work at 5 PM. What to do?

Called the repeat offender from Maggies (who by the way considers me to be her "best boyfriend"), this would be the fourth or fifth time. She was now barebacking everything and I was not about to say "NO". Again, excellent performance but had to go to work at 5 PM.

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IbeTheOne

10-13-07, 00:18

Any info on Regent services within the hotel or something close by? Will be there this coming week. Then on to Shanghai the following week, staying at the Sheraton in Shaanxi Province there. Any info will help, with a tour group. Need to be discreet with my free time but what to sample the sights!

Ragnarok42

10-13-07, 03:21

Mongolians have tits. Chinese have foam rubber.Oooh dude, low blow.

All the Chinese girls I have had have recently have upgraded to saline.

Sammy_T

10-13-07, 09:26

I plan to meet up with One Wing Low this evening (Saturday). PM or SMS me for details if anyone would like to join us.

Sammy

Genkisugiru

10-14-07, 05:36

Hi Guys,

I've been perusing this site for months. Great site, some excellent posts and moderators. This is my first post. Pardon me if I don't add much value as a virgin poster to this site.

I'm American, living in Tokyo almost 20 years, I'm 50 but look about 40 to Western people, and mid. Late 30's to Asian people. (I'm in good shape, better than average looking guy, well-groomed, etc.) Tokyo is a pussy-lover's heaven, and while I don't do the quantity and quality of chicks I was doing 10. 15 years ago, I can still pick up cute 22-year-old college girls, take them out, and often shag them by the 2nd or 3rd date. Of course, it's easy to pick up and shag career women or housewives as well. I have never paid for a professional sex worker in Japan. I like the ego gratification of picking up young, cute chicks without paying them.- although, admittedly, a few dinners can run up the same total cost as just paying a pro cash outright. My only experiences paying for sex are in Thailand, and those experiences were generally very good.

I've been coming to BJ and SH for business fairly often the past year. Luckily, I picked up a really great chick in BJ, whom I visited in BJ twice, and whom I flew over to Tokyo once. I also picked up a great girl in SH, and have visited her a couple of times in SH and HK. Both girls in their 20's, career women, college-educated, bilingual, pretty, classy, smart, non-****ty (but great in bed). So, my impressions of the chick scene in China is like my experiences in Japan.- I can meet and lay really nice girls for free.

Based upon what I read on this site and elsewhere, I went to Maggies last night (Saturday night). Actually, as a bar, it was much better than I expected. I met a nice European guy, and we had enjoyable conversation. The music was really good. As a bar, quite good. But, my God, the working girls were almost all DOGS. I would say I looked at 30 WG's in Maggies, and the average was "5" at best. Most were 4's: very overweight (fat), unattractive faces, unproportional bodies. Seriously, most of the girls I saw at Maggies would have to PAY ME to have sex with them! There were maybe 1. 2 of 30 WG's I would consider attractive (not knock-outs, but pretty nice), and maybe 2.3 I would do as free pick ups, but not worth paying for.

So, the impression of my first visit to Maggies was.- counter-intuitive, I. E. , I see millions of 6's. 7's (non-WG's) all over BJ, and could probably pick up many of them for free. So why on earth would I consider paying for ugly girls I wouldn't even have sex with for free? Answer: I wouldn't.

On a previous trip to BJ, I had a massage from a 20-year-old Mongolian girl in a hotel massage parlor.- it was a non-sexual massage, and she explained to me later that I could have had FS in my room. She was really cute, nice 6. 5. 7 face, 7. 7. 5 body, nice personailty. I expected to find girls like her at Maggies last night. But, my God, it was like "Ugly Girl Night" there last night. (I was there from 11PM. 1:30AM).

The European guy I was hanging out with has been in BJ a few months, and told me that Maggies was over-hyped, and that he rarely saw girls there he thought worth doing. He said he got much hotter girls as pick ups in bars. So his experience was consistent with my, admittedly limited, experience in China.

Dudes, tell me, where were the 7's, 8's, and 9's you guys mention on this site? Was it just an off night at Maggies, with only 1. 2 of 30 WG's attractive, and 25 of them outright fat / ugly? BTW, my standards are NOT ridiculously high. I swear to you the chicks in that place were downright DOGS.

I would think most of the guys living in BJ, and with some language proficiency, could pick up cute girls easily, as I do in Tokyo. So I don't see the attraction of paid chicks, unless they are REALLY hot, fantastic sexually, etc. Of course, I'm single, and I'm my own boss, so I have liberties that many guys don't have. I can understand that married guys and / or guys with job / time constraints may be well-served by paying WG's. But I just hope you're getting better-looking girls than the nasty-looking girls in Maggies last night.

This is off-thread, but I also wonder how guys balance risk vs. Reward of unprotected sex. I have almost never used condoms in my 20 years in Japan, have never had any STD's, and never want them. However, I REALLY have trouble getting it up with a condom. My SH GF has had me try condoms, and, even with Cialis, I just can't do it. After 20. 25 years of great GF sex with many great partners, I just have a psychological block against condoms. I understand the general risk of STD's, especially from WG's who may be with hundreds. Thousands of guys per year. But, more personally, I'd like to hear from guys on this site as to how they personally assess having condomless sex (as I MUCH prefer) vs. The risks of doing so.

Sorry to ramble on and on. I hope I can add more value in future posts.

Cheers.

Genki Sugiru

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Psoe1

10-14-07, 05:48

Sam247,

You may pm me your contact and I will show you some goodwill here in BJ, trust me.

Makeupaname

10-14-07, 09:45

11PM to 1:30AM is very early in Maggies. Past 1:30am is when it starts to pick
up. Also I would say Mongolians do not look like traditional Asians, maybe they
are just not to your taste.

One Wing Low

10-14-07, 11:00

planned to meet sammy_t at the pigs, holiday inn lidu fan jian at 8pm. the place is in the suburb north east of downtown near beijing airport, a 50rmb taxi ride from tian an men.

arrived, found sammy_t leaning against the main entrance, holding up the wall. he was falling down drunk. his speech was slurring. he could not even talk. he wanted too go to maggies but i wanted to see the selection at the pigs. pigs and thistles is a small bar in that holiday inn mall. about 10 chinese girls hanging out, about the same number foreigners. most girls were older, homely. there were probably 2,3 girls above average in looks. looks like local housewives trying to supplement income...they were not shy. they were all hitting on me trying to turn tricks.

found sunny hanging next to the bar talking to a guy. she was the best-looking in that bar. this girls looked so cute, she could be a sweetheart somewhere in suburban america...she was the only one i was interested in. it was her or nothing. she was sort of shy. she was not circulating around trying to pick up guys like the other girls. waited for the guy to leave then approached her with a smile. master monger was telling me to smile after every sentence. it works great with the chinese girls and probably with anyone anywhere in the world. she speaks decent english. she was always searching for the right words to express herself. her family is in the remote, extreme north west region of china, near afganistan's border. she's been in bj a few years.

anyway she wanted 2000 all night, negotiated down to 1200rmb with taxi money etc...she quickly packed and we headed out to the taxi. i was looking for sammy t to tell him i was gone but he was nowhere to be found. probably fell off somewhere sleeping off his alcohol. as you guys know, hot pussies come first, so i was not gonna wait around for sammy t. hope he didnt get run over by a taxi...

sunny has very smooth and soft skin. i was holding her hands, feeling her boobies and her crotch, trying to kiss her in the taxi...she pushed me away when police cars were around, said police was giving people problems.

went back to the hotel. could not wait too ask her for some pics. she has a very pretty face and a well-proportioned body. she hesitated at first but relented. i asked her for nude pics with no face and she agreed. took a few nudies with face. next morning she asked me to delete them all. she was deadly fearful that i may use the pics to hurt her. to keep her from worrying for years, i deleted the nudies with her face and promise that i would never use the pics to harm her. that seemed to put her at ease.

her body is tight and tone; her skin is soft, smooth, glowing, literally like a baby's skin. could not wait to get on top of her. took some lotion on the fingers and played with her clit while sucking on the nips on her large round and pert boobies, alternately dfking her. she just loved it. she was so horny, she was massaging my dick, staring at it for a while. finally entered her hot, wet pussy. it was a long session. she was so turned on she was saying she loved my dick and asked me to fuck her harder and harder...at times she was so passionate she started to kiss my chest all over, talking dirty... she basically went wild... we finally came together, exhausted.

we both went to wash up. came back to bed, she took my fingers and put it on her clit. she wanted the hand job all over...she wanted to do it again. at this rate, i may soon pass the exam to become an official chinese duck... had the second session, not as passionate as the first. she told she was gonna give me a rest.

concerned that she may be hungry, took her to the japanese shabu shabu hot pot restaurant nearby. she ordered a bunch of food for us. food was very good. she was hungry, ate and drank up a storm. fancy restaurant, excellent food, all costed 260rmb, highy reccomended. the chef and the wait staff were hanging around, staring at her. everywhere sunny went, people would turn their heads to look at her. she was that good looking.

went back to hotel, went to the hotel's club, ktv joint. they were having a magic show going on. costed 25 rmb per drink. hang around looking at boys and girls. she pointed out that a lot of the young guys hanging around were actually ducks. did see a young guy giving an older, fat woman the hugging, groping, squeezing treatment in the ktv hallway.

sunny is a very pretty and classy girl. i am impressed with her beauty and her gentle manners. have her tel and email if any bro wants english-speaking company in bj.

Meiguoguizi

10-14-07, 14:28

Although you're sure to receive much grief from the ISG Maggie's aficionados, I too am often taken aback by the lack of quality at Maggies. I do believe that as recently as two years ago, the selection was much better. And although I'm only in Beijing 4 months of the year, I've been there for the past five years. This year I felt that only perhaps 10 or 20% of the Horde was even eligible for sober carnal consideration, with perhaps 5% worthy of pursuit and purchase. I admit to several times leaving Maggies at 4pm+ alone, rather than selecting from the remaining talent, usually regretful for not grabbing one of the few young hotties available at Midnight, but as you discovered, part of the attraction of Maggies is observing the carnage. And even with the decreased quality, there still are usually a handful of young lovelies to choose from if you're willing to work the room.

How often on ISG have you read the glowing reviews of some contributor's encounter and his recent conquest's charms, than glimpsed the attached photo and winced?

True: there is more T&A in Maggie's because of the Mongolian physique compared to Chinese. And the Mongolians create a more GFE with their kissing and BBBJ and extended stays. And unlike yourself, many of us mongers are older and unlikely to acquire any free talent in Beijing of any value. As Groucho similarly complained: I'm no longer willing to enter any 'club' that freely accepts my member.

But as for condoms dude, ANY girl, working or otherwise, who will bareback you will do the same for others, literally countless others because you have no ability to determine how many. You may be willing to accept that risk to yourself now, but your future girlfriends, wife and even children can be the benefactors of any viral infestation, AIDS Herpes or otherwise, that you witlessly acquire and are ultimately unable to completely eradicate.

As far as your condom phobia, remember: the working girl's job description requires HER to ensure that you acquire a condom-capable erection. Delegate her the task and relax.

Hi Guys,

I've been perusing this site for months. Great site, some excellent posts and moderators. This is my first post. Pardon me if I don't add much value as a virgin poster to this site.

I'm American, living in Tokyo almost 20 years, I'm 50 but look about 40 to Western people, and mid. Late 30's to Asian people. (I'm in good shape, better than average looking guy, well-groomed, etc.) Tokyo is a pussy-lover's heaven, and while I don't do the quantity and quality of chicks I was doing 10. 15 years ago, I can still pick up cute 22-year-old college girls, take them out, and often shag them by the 2nd or 3rd date. Of course, it's easy to pick up and shag career women or housewives as well. I have never paid for a professional sex worker in Japan. I like the ego gratification of picking up young, cute chicks without paying them.- although, admittedly, a few dinners can run up the same total cost as just paying a pro cash outright. My only experiences paying for sex are in Thailand, and those experiences were generally very good.

I've been coming to BJ and SH for business fairly often the past year. Luckily, I picked up a really great chick in BJ, whom I visited in BJ twice, and whom I flew over to Tokyo once. I also picked up a great girl in SH, and have visited her a couple of times in SH and HK. Both girls in their 20's, career women, college-educated, bilingual, pretty, classy, smart, non-****ty (but great in bed). So, my impressions of the chick scene in China is like my experiences in Japan.- I can meet and lay really nice girls for free.

Based upon what I read on this site and elsewhere, I went to Maggies last night (Saturday night). Actually, as a bar, it was much better than I expected. I met a nice European guy, and we had enjoyable conversation. The music was really good. As a bar, quite good. But, my God, the working girls were almost all DOGS. I would say I looked at 30 WG's in Maggies, and the average was "5" at best. Most were 4's: very overweight (fat), unattractive faces, unproportional bodies. Seriously, most of the girls I saw at Maggies would have to PAY ME to have sex with them! There were maybe 1. 2 of 30 WG's I would consider attractive (not knock-outs, but pretty nice), and maybe 2.3 I would do as free pick ups, but not worth paying for.

So, the impression of my first visit to Maggies was.- counter-intuitive, I. E. , I see millions of 6's. 7's (non-WG's) all over BJ, and could probably pick up many of them for free. So why on earth would I consider paying for ugly girls I wouldn't even have sex with for free? Answer: I wouldn't.

On a previous trip to BJ, I had a massage from a 20-year-old Mongolian girl in a hotel massage parlor.- it was a non-sexual massage, and she explained to me later that I could have had FS in my room. She was really cute, nice 6. 5. 7 face, 7. 7. 5 body, nice personailty. I expected to find girls like her at Maggies last night. But, my God, it was like "Ugly Girl Night" there last night. (I was there from 11PM. 1:30AM).

The European guy I was hanging out with has been in BJ a few months, and told me that Maggies was over-hyped, and that he rarely saw girls there he thought worth doing. He said he got much hotter girls as pick ups in bars. So his experience was consistent with my, admittedly limited, experience in China.

Dudes, tell me, where were the 7's, 8's, and 9's you guys mention on this site? Was it just an off night at Maggies, with only 1. 2 of 30 WG's attractive, and 25 of them outright fat / ugly? BTW, my standards are NOT ridiculously high. I swear to you the chicks in that place were downright DOGS.

I would think most of the guys living in BJ, and with some language proficiency, could pick up cute girls easily, as I do in Tokyo. So I don't see the attraction of paid chicks, unless they are REALLY hot, fantastic sexually, etc. Of course, I'm single, and I'm my own boss, so I have liberties that many guys don't have. I can understand that married guys and / or guys with job / time constraints may be well-served by paying WG's. But I just hope you're getting better-looking girls than the nasty-looking girls in Maggies last night.

This is off-thread, but I also wonder how guys balance risk vs. Reward of unprotected sex. I have almost never used condoms in my 20 years in Japan, have never had any STD's, and never want them. However, I REALLY have trouble getting it up with a condom. My SH GF has had me try condoms, and, even with Cialis, I just can't do it. After 20. 25 years of great GF sex with many great partners, I just have a psychological block against condoms. I understand the general risk of STD's, especially from WG's who may be with hundreds. Thousands of guys per year. But, more personally, I'd like to hear from guys on this site as to how they personally assess having condomless sex (as I MUCH prefer) vs. The risks of doing so.

Sorry to ramble on and on. I hope I can add more value in future posts.

Cheers.

Genki Sugiru

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Zhuren

10-14-07, 15:24

Genki-San:

I know both scenes intimately. We maintain residences in both. I know it's easy for a gaijin to pick up a chick in Roppongi. JP girls are amongst the sexiest in the world, and they love SEX.

It's not quite equally easy to pick up a freebie in China, but it's close. Now as (I believe) Sammy said (and I paraphrase: ) "You don't pay them to go with you. You pay them to leave."

For a Chinese girl, an American living in Tokyo is a walking visa - as you have experienced. (Try getting her into the US .... good luck.) For a Japanese girl, you are a bigger dick that the average Japanese pinkie-size. You also provide more romance and treat a woman better than the average chauvinist Japanese, who doesn't even move his stone face when he has an orgasm.

Japanese girls can be quite kinky and adventurous. Hard to find in China. Japanese girls are BJ addicts - the average Chinese male must go to a sauna for the same treatment.

Maggies-wa, they have their up days and their down days. Fridays and Saturdays are best. Currently, because of the Party Congress, the selection is VERY limited. And in any case, the Mongolian maidens usually cater to expats who are hungry for some heartier, chunkier fare after having been exposed to thin, titless girls. Just like you lust for a Triple with cheese at Wendy's after a prolonged diet of sushi, sashimi & tempura. To each his own.

Now for the unprotected sex: That's a dangerous game. For you and for your sex partners. The odds are heavily stacked against you - both. That there is no STD in Japan is a myth, they have it just as much as everywhere else. You've most likely already infected scores of women with herpes, chlamydia et al ... men rarely show symptoms, but they carry. Usually, your risk of contracting STD from a resposible WG is much lower than from a "regular girl" who doesn't protect herself.

It's a miracle that you are still alive. I suggest not applying for permanent residency in China: You have to go through a health check. And the only thing they really look for is AIDS.

Hi Guys,

I've been perusing this site for months. Great site, some excellent posts and moderators. This is my first post. Pardon me if I don't add much value as a virgin poster to this site.

I'm American, living in Tokyo almost 20 years, I'm 50 but look about 40 to Western people, and mid. Late 30's to Asian people. (I'm in good shape, better than average looking guy, well-groomed, etc.) Tokyo is a pussy-lover's heaven, and while I don't do the quantity and quality of chicks I was doing 10. 15 years ago, I can still pick up cute 22-year-old college girls, take them out, and often shag them by the 2nd or 3rd date. Of course, it's easy to pick up and shag career women or housewives as well. I have never paid for a professional sex worker in Japan. I like the ego gratification of picking up young, cute chicks without paying them.- although, admittedly, a few dinners can run up the same total cost as just paying a pro cash outright. My only experiences paying for sex are in Thailand, and those experiences were generally very good.

I've been coming to BJ and SH for business fairly often the past year. Luckily, I picked up a really great chick in BJ, whom I visited in BJ twice, and whom I flew over to Tokyo once. I also picked up a great girl in SH, and have visited her a couple of times in SH and HK. Both girls in their 20's, career women, college-educated, bilingual, pretty, classy, smart, non-****ty (but great in bed). So, my impressions of the chick scene in China is like my experiences in Japan.- I can meet and lay really nice girls for free.

Based upon what I read on this site and elsewhere, I went to Maggies last night (Saturday night). Actually, as a bar, it was much better than I expected. I met a nice European guy, and we had enjoyable conversation. The music was really good. As a bar, quite good. But, my God, the working girls were almost all DOGS. I would say I looked at 30 WG's in Maggies, and the average was "5" at best. Most were 4's: very overweight (fat), unattractive faces, unproportional bodies. Seriously, most of the girls I saw at Maggies would have to PAY ME to have sex with them! There were maybe 1. 2 of 30 WG's I would consider attractive (not knock-outs, but pretty nice), and maybe 2.3 I would do as free pick ups, but not worth paying for.

So, the impression of my first visit to Maggies was.- counter-intuitive, I. E. , I see millions of 6's. 7's (non-WG's) all over BJ, and could probably pick up many of them for free. So why on earth would I consider paying for ugly girls I wouldn't even have sex with for free? Answer: I wouldn't.

On a previous trip to BJ, I had a massage from a 20-year-old Mongolian girl in a hotel massage parlor.- it was a non-sexual massage, and she explained to me later that I could have had FS in my room. She was really cute, nice 6. 5. 7 face, 7. 7. 5 body, nice personailty. I expected to find girls like her at Maggies last night. But, my God, it was like "Ugly Girl Night" there last night. (I was there from 11PM. 1:30AM).

The European guy I was hanging out with has been in BJ a few months, and told me that Maggies was over-hyped, and that he rarely saw girls there he thought worth doing. He said he got much hotter girls as pick ups in bars. So his experience was consistent with my, admittedly limited, experience in China.

Dudes, tell me, where were the 7's, 8's, and 9's you guys mention on this site? Was it just an off night at Maggies, with only 1. 2 of 30 WG's attractive, and 25 of them outright fat / ugly? BTW, my standards are NOT ridiculously high. I swear to you the chicks in that place were downright DOGS.

I would think most of the guys living in BJ, and with some language proficiency, could pick up cute girls easily, as I do in Tokyo. So I don't see the attraction of paid chicks, unless they are REALLY hot, fantastic sexually, etc. Of course, I'm single, and I'm my own boss, so I have liberties that many guys don't have. I can understand that married guys and / or guys with job / time constraints may be well-served by paying WG's. But I just hope you're getting better-looking girls than the nasty-looking girls in Maggies last night.

This is off-thread, but I also wonder how guys balance risk vs. Reward of unprotected sex. I have almost never used condoms in my 20 years in Japan, have never had any STD's, and never want them. However, I REALLY have trouble getting it up with a condom. My SH GF has had me try condoms, and, even with Cialis, I just can't do it. After 20. 25 years of great GF sex with many great partners, I just have a psychological block against condoms. I understand the general risk of STD's, especially from WG's who may be with hundreds. Thousands of guys per year. But, more personally, I'd like to hear from guys on this site as to how they personally assess having condomless sex (as I MUCH prefer) vs. The risks of doing so.

Sorry to ramble on and on. I hope I can add more value in future posts.

Cheers.

Genki Sugiru

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Zhuren

10-14-07, 15:41

If I understand correctly, this is most likely a "People's Congress" thing, not a "pre-Olympics" thing at this point? More specifically, if I were to return in December, are things expected to be back to normal?

Absolutely. We've had two days of blue sky in Beijing. My prediction is it will last as long as the congress. Hell, I can see the mountains from my window. After the congress, all will be back to normal.

Wujohn

10-14-07, 16:07

Dudes, tell me, where were the 7's, 8's, and 9's you guys mention on this site? Was it just an off night at Maggies, with only 1. 2 of 30 WG's attractive, and 25 of them outright fat / ugly? BTW, my standards are NOT ridiculously high. I swear to you the chicks in that place were downright DOGS.IMHO, the most consistent place to find hotties (7s, 8s and 9s) in large numbers and with a decent chance of P4P is in the upscale KTV establishments. These will invariably have a large selection of girls, over 40 most of the time and many many are very very nice. My favorites places (and I hope others will share theirs) are:

1. No. 8 ( 8 号公馆 ) Chaoyong Park West Rd. There are also restaurants, a disco and a sauna (mostly legit...) next to the KTV. I've even seen some chinese punters take some stunners from the ktv into the private rooms in the sauna. Tips are 500RMB with just some fondling. Ask the mamasan in advance if you want take out. The rooms are not cheap either (starting from 1600RMB for a small 3-4 person room) and then there is also mamasan's and waiter's tips

2. 五州风情 (Wuzhou Feng Qing) between the Crowne Plaza Wuzhou and the Continental Grand in the Asian Games village area. They have different tiers of girls from ordinary to models. Tips start from 300RMB and go up to 500RMB for the models with just some fondling. Ask the mamasan in advance if you want take out. Rooms start are a bit cheaper than No. 8 but not much. Good thing about this place is that the mamasan can get you a really cheap rate at either of the adjoining hotels which are both GF.

3. I can't remember the name of the place but its downstairs from the garment hotel on Dongzhimenwai Ave near the corner of Xindong Rd ie on the southern side of Dongwai opposite the Australian and Canadian embassies.

I used to also go to 花都 (Hua Du - near Sanyuan Bridge) a lot many years ago. Many many fond memories..... not sure if its still any good. Used to have a membership there. Haven't been for almost 18months now.

I have to admit that I did try the bar scene when I first came to Beijing some years ago. But with the availability of really attractive women with no "hunting" required and a high success rate for achieving the ultimate goal, I did not pursue a the bar scene much further and have resorted to high class KTV, fun KTV or saunas to get what I want, pretty much whenever I want.

This is off-thread, but I also wonder how guys balance risk vs. Reward of unprotected sex. I have almost never used condoms in my 20 years in Japan, have never had any STD's, and never want them. However, I REALLY have trouble getting it up with a condom. My SH GF has had me try condoms, and, even with Cialis, I just can't do it. After 20. 25 years of great GF sex with many great partners, I just have a psychological block against condoms. I understand the general risk of STD's, especially from WG's who may be with hundreds. Thousands of guys per year. But, more personally, I'd like to hear from guys on this site as to how they personally assess having condomless sex (as I MUCH prefer) vs. The risks of doing so.I have to agree with Zhuren on this one. You take your own risks.

Wujohn

10-14-07, 17:03

Intransit

10-15-07, 01:35

If it makes anyone feel better, even Intransit, for whom Maggie's is the best bar on the planet, thinks that on some nights the place is holding a meeting of Ugly Anonymous. But those are the exception, not the rule. Although I would continue going there because I like the place first and the girls second, I don't think Sammy T and I would have spent so much time (and money) there if it were just about good music, good bartenders, and quality service.

A few things to bear in mind: the women at Maggie's are primarily Mongolian, although we're here in China. Therefore, the number of Mongolian hookers who happen to show up at a particular bar in Beijing on any given night is limited, and therefore, it's a shallow gene pool. Also, not everyone is going to like the Mongolian look. They're generally taller and have higher cheekbones. Most Chinese are not into high cheekbones, and therefore aren't into Mongolians. If that's not your phenotype, then the Maggie's crew will not float your boat.

Also, for anyone about to go to Maggie's, bear in mind you are likely about to endure the worst mongering week in years. The Communist Party Congress begins today, which means that Beijing will be under lock and key. Smart girls decided this would be a good week to go back and see mom, dad, and yak, since they are much more likely to encounter police trouble than any other week in the past or next five years. The CPC only meets every five years, and so this is a good time to get out of Dodge. If you happen to have a regular girl in Beijing, this is a good time to call her and invite her to crash at your place for a few days. She'll appreciate the cover, and you will benefit from her gratitude.

Zhuren, I had to laugh when I read your description of Sammy at the Pig the other night. I've seen him like that too. Sammy, what's up buddy?

Sammy_T

10-15-07, 02:48

arrived, found sammy_t leaning against the main entrance, holding up the wall. he was falling down drunk. his speech was slurring. he could not even talk.
one wing low -

sorry about that. too much baiju at a banquet with customers prior to arriving at the pig. normally i would have just gone straight home, but i wanted to at least try to meet with you since it was your last night in town.

hope you have a nice trip home.

sammy

Zhuren

10-15-07, 04:23

Also, for anyone about to go to Maggie's, bear in mind you are likely about to endure the worst mongering week in years. The Communist Party Congress begins today, which means that Beijing will be under lock and key. Smart girls decided this would be a good week to go back and see mom, dad, and yak, since they are much more likely to encounter police trouble than any other week in the past or next five years. The CPC only meets every five years, and so this is a good time to get out of dodge. If you happen to have a regular girl in Beijing, this is a good time to call her and invite her to crash at your place for a few days. She'll appreciate the cover, and you will benefit from her gratitude.

Very, very true.

New Oldman

10-15-07, 05:53

Bad Boy Billy

10-15-07, 07:30

One Wing Low -

Sorry about that. Too much Baiju at a banquet with customers prior to arriving at the Pig. Normally I would have just gone straight home, but I wanted to at least try to meet with you since it was your last night in town.

Hope you have a nice trip home.

Sammy

Sammy how dare you act in such an irresponsible manner and fail to adequately fulfill your role, responsibility and job description as official 'Beijing sex tour guide to new / occasional members'.

This lapse on your part has been duly noted by higher authorities - a further occurence may well see you either stripped of your crown / role - or worse still - publically lashed with plaited barbed wire!

One Wing Low

10-15-07, 07:52

No problems.

I wannted to meet the local bros as well. It was very nice of you to wait for me. Hopefully we will have more time to hang out next time I am in BJ.

Have fun and take care.

One Wing Low -

Sorry about that. Too much Baiju at a banquet with customers prior to arriving at the Pig. Normally I would have just gone straight home, but I wanted to at least try to meet with you since it was your last night in town.

Hope you have a nice trip home.

Sammy

OldAsiaHand

10-15-07, 11:36

BBB,

If you remember, he did the same thing to us the last time we met in The Pig. We were ready to head off to Hollywood/Maggies and Sammy was nowhere to be found.

Next night, after his wonderful hospitality in Cafe Del Mar and giving us a ride to Maggies (the girl in your lap in Sammy's car had a gorgeous rack) for a few more, he split without a word. BTW, that girl in your lap was Sammy's private stock. Even with that rack, he left her behind.

IMHO, he just wants to leave them guessing and longing for him. They will try harder the next time! We are the fools to fall over for them!

Until next time, Sammy, your majesty!

OAH

Sammy how dare you act in such an irresponsible manner and fail to adequately fulfill your role, responsibility and job description as official 'Beijing sex tour guide to new / occasional members'.

This lapse on your part has been duly noted by higher authorities - a further occurence may well see you either stripped of your crown / role - or worse still - publically lashed with plaited barbed wire!

BigBall2007

10-15-07, 11:41

One Wing Low,

Do you have her tel number?

Sammy_T

10-15-07, 12:10

I respectfully request forgiveness from the brethren and pledge to better represent royal family in the Kingdom of Beijing.

(by the way, I don't remember going to the Pig. I am told that after the Pig I went to Maggie's. I woke up on Sunday morning in the VIP room at the ShuYi sauna where I had some how run up a bill of 2500 RMB)

Sammy

Genkisugiru

10-15-07, 18:12

Hey All,

I continue to be impressed by the guys who post on this forum. The reports are articulate, guys are helpful and supportive to one another, and, as evidenced by responses to my question about unprotected sex, seem genuinely concerned for one another's health, as well as for the health of our sex partners. You are classy guys! I wish I were in BJ more often to get to know some of you guys. But for now, I'll just have to keep bonking petite, young, horny Japanese chicks in Tokyo.

It seems several guys have had similar observations of nights full of ugly girls in Maggies, and no one flamed me! But, as some have written here, the Party Congress going on must have played a big role this week. Shit, I come to BJ once every 3 months or so, and my interest in shagging a cute Mongolian or Chinese chick gets thwarted by a bunch of old communists! Bad freakin' timing!

Some posters thought I might just not like the Mongolian look. No, as I wrote in my post, the Mongolian chick who gave me a (non-sexual) massage last March was a real cutie, and she lamented to me after the massage why I hadn't ordered her to go up to my room so we could have gotten sexual. It wasn't a matter of not liking the Mongolian look; the girls in Maggies last Saturday night were just outright ugly, except for a sparse few decent ones.

Some guys wrote about the Mongolians having more T&A than Chinese chicks. I live in Japan, the capital of small-breasted women. My last three long-term GF's in Japan were an A-cup and two (barely) B-cups. I am always happy to visit China and see women that, on average, compared to Japanese chicks, are big in the rack. I guess it's all relative! That said, I have generally found small breasted women to have much more sensitive nipples than large breasted woman.

Zhuren, hajimemashite! Actually, I live close to Roppongi, yet I go out in Roppongi once or twice per year.- when visiting clients from the US demand going there. I have never done well picking up chicks in clubs / bars my entire life, in any country. For me, I've always done well in everyday places: coffee shops, supermarkets, the gym.

I love that quote: "You don't pay them to go with you. You pay them to leave. " Sammy sounds like a real character.

Zhuren, your comments about unprotected sex are mature, compassionate, and wise.- and much appreciated. I think you somehow got the impression that I'm screwing WG's without condoms. As I said in my post, the only paid sex I've ever had in my entire life is a handful of times in Thailand, and I DEFINITELY wore condoms every time there. In Japan, I'm picking up girls that on average have had relatively few partners, usually just one or two longer-term boyfriends. I know, anyone can be a disease carrier, but I think disease risk is exponentially less with a non-WG girl who has had 5 partners or less in her life vs. WG's who have 5 partners per night. (I'm disease free as of my last AIDS test two months ago.)

Frankly, this dilemma of performance anxiety with condoms and paranoia about doing any paid provider without a condom is why I've only had 3. 4 paid sex experiences my entire life. (I've bonked close to 100 chicks, just no pro's.) I always laughed when I've heard about guys paying for handjobs, as I associate handjobs with being about 15 years old, and that was all we could get from girls at that age. But, now I realize that maybe that is a good way to enjoy an experience with a paid chick, without a condom or risk of disease. And, some posters here say that some of the hottest providers in BJ are working the handjob-oriented places. I'm here in BJ 3. 4 more days. I've gotta give something a shot, before I visit my GF in Shanghai.

Zhuren, your comments about Japanese chicks being heavily into BJ's is true.- THANK GOD! My Shanghai GF seems to have zero BJ experience, and my ex-Beijing GF wasn't into BJ's at all. (How ironic is that: no BJ in BJ! ) Heck, the average chick in the US or JP is giving BJ's at 14 or 15 years old. China certainly seems to lag in the BJ department. And, yes, Zhuren, I hate to generalize about the entire male population of Japan; there are some great Japanese guys. But it IS pretty easy to compare favorably to typical Japanese guys in terms of how to treat a woman, paying attention to her needs, and giving the women a great ride. I could be doing frustrated housewives in Tokyo all day long if I wanted to, and I do a few, but it's not something I like doing much.

Keep up the great work (play? ) guys!

Genki Sugiru

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Nick Dane

10-15-07, 21:12

Hi all.

Comming to town for the first time next week. Arriving the 24th. Hope to see some of the places described here. Am thankfull for all the reports. If anyone want to show me some action I would be gratefull

Regards,

Nickdane

BigBall2007

10-16-07, 04:58

I give you guys some infermation.

Last year my freind tried jessica, and said she is so wonderful, height 168cm, slim, 9 in body and 8 in face. She is active on bed.

Her mobile phone is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin].

Hope you guys have good luck and give some nice report.

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Nobody Doe

10-16-07, 05:43

I think there needs to be some sort of Beijing mongering convention.... Start with dinner at a duck restaurant around 6:30 (yes I agree that Dadong is the best duck restaurant in Beijing and lets face it, a most appropriate name for a monger's convention to be held! Followed by KTV til around 11pm to midnight, then Maggies, Hollywood and/or Pig til the early hours and then a sauna to top it off. This way you get to see and compare for yourself. I'd be curious to see how many mongers would stay the course til the end.Sammy_T the King organized a similar convention / party in August, and that was hell a lot of fun! Perhaps Sammy_T the King could do another round of convention / party after the 17th congress meeting thing. I would love to meet more local bros such as Wujohn, One Wing Low, Meiguoguizi, etc.

My wife is back in town now so I could only join the dinner / drinking part, but perhaps you bros can teach me a few tricks so I can still do mongering while my wife is in town! :)

Cheers,

Taiwan Guy

Banana8

10-16-07, 06:27

Hi everyone,

I'm recently arrived in Beijing from the UK, and discovered the site about a week ago. Very impressed with the reports and general attitude! As I'm here for a while, thought I'd start the ball rolling with a report on the local sauna from a complete newbie's perspective.

Anyway. Quick lowdown. Me = 30ish, Brit Chinese, speak sod all Mandarin, currently sharing a flat so impossible to get take out. Hence I thought I'd explore the local area, this was before I discovered this forum, so was kind of going in blind!

Sauna I went to is listed as Liufangyuan Finnish Sauna on my Mapking GPS map (high-tech toys), and it's near Liufang Subway station, on the corner of Liufang Jie and Zuojiazhuang Xijie. Couldn't read the Chinese name, but it's a fairly shiny looking place.

Went in, confused the hell out of the door staff by looking Chinese but speaking my terribly accented mandarin, and figure out that using the actual spa/sauna bit costs 48Y. Body scrub is 38Y, so I figure I'll try that. Still uncertain at this point if anything 'additional' was on offer.

Go in, undress (no bloke helping, good in my eyes! ), and stood around uncertainly for a second. Get handed a tiny towel for washing myself with, and wander into the shower section. As other threads have mentioned, there is a lot of walking around in the buff in these places, might be a shock! Sauna, come out, am directed to a massage table where an attendant scrubs me. He tried to sell me some kind of extra treatment package, but I asked the price and he was upfront about it, to be fair, so I said no, showered, headed back to the changing room.

At this point, I didn't know how to ask for pyjamas, but stood around and got handed some after a short while. Dried off and dressed, then headed back out, where there was a staircase with 'mood' pink lighting that looked plush, so went that way ushered by an attendant (asked if I wanted 'massaji'). Led upstairs and into a room, asked for a green tea (8Y), as I was worried about being scammed for drinks, and he sets off to fetch a girl.

Anyhow, I didn't seem to have a choice about the girl, but she shows up, and via sign language and talking slowly, establish the price is 598Y for oral, and 898Y for FS. Ask for the 598, she heads off, comes back, and things proceed rather nervously at first. On my part, despite me having done P4P before back home. I don't like writing all the gory details, but she's fairly keen, if a little passive. Is this usual here?. And to break it down, I'd say she's about a 6 facially (I'm picky! ), body 7. Small B cup, nice round but firm ass, and overall I'd say about a 6. 5 (Her number. 005). She got very wet though, and seemed extremely keen on meeting up outside of the sauna sometime, asking if I could receive SMS in Chinese. I wasn't all that keen though, so I made some (hopefully! ) polite ambivalent replies

Long story short. Total damage 692Y. For a reasonable experience. Might have been better, but I was nervous about being scammed / arrested / beaten up by thugs, which put me rather on edge! Should I have bargained at any point? All the prices seemed very up-front and settled, or is that just what they want you to think?

In any case, hope that's useful to anyone looking around in the Liufang area. I'd be up for seeing some of the apparent hotspots sometime, but guess I should wait for next week! However, need to find some way around the no-takeout problem. Any thoughts?

Cheers and sorry for the long post!

Banana

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Bad Boy Billy

10-16-07, 06:29

BBB,

If you remember, he did the same thing to us the last time we met in The Pig. We were ready to head off to Hollywood/Maggies and Sammy was nowhere to be found.

Next night, after his wonderful hospitality in Cafe Del Mar and giving us a ride to Maggies (the girl in your lap in Sammy's car had a gorgeous rack) for a few more, he split without a word. BTW, that girl in your lap was Sammy's private stock. Even with that rack, he left her behind.

IMHO, he just wants to leave them guessing and longing for him. They will try harder the next time! We are the fools to fall over for them!

Until next time, Sammy, your majesty!

OAH

OAH you forgot to mention the MOST reprehensible crime that Sammy has indeed committed against those of us who THOUGHT we were his friends.

I speak of his dastardly action via his driver when we were left LOCKED INSIDE his van outside Maggies that fateful night.

Paint the picture in your mind guys - Sammy inside Maggies running amok - his mates outside and LOCKED INSIDE his van with no escape.

Does that man have NO shame?

One Wing Low

10-16-07, 09:38

I am not trying to be difficult. I am more than happy to share my good/bad experiences and contact info with the bros. However, I have to take caution against someone harming these girls.

So I am more than happy to give contact info to the seniors who have established their mongering careers and their true identities.

Any newbies who can have at least 2 seniors to vouch for their intents or identities will also be given the contacts.

PM me.

One Wing Low,

Do you have her tel number?

Beijingrichard

10-16-07, 10:18

I hope someone gets a few pointers out of my "head-in-ass" behavior.

I had nothing going Friday, so I headed over to Maggie's Thursday night, arriving around midnight. It's a bit of a haul from nothern Haidian (60 kuai.) It seemed almost as crowded as a Fri./Sat. I really need to figure a way to get over there on Tues./Wed. Grabbed a beer and started strolling.

Although half the fun is finding new unsampled talent, there is really something to be said for proven value. Distracted by the thought of a perfect evening, I blew off a friendly, classy, acceptable performer named Jessie. She's about 5'9" (gotta work on my metrics)and slim with fairly short hair. I usually like them very short, so I let a good thing go.
-1/2*

I kept pacing from from front to back, working up a sweat, especially in the back, where it seemed a little warm. This seemed to make my bottles leak and I was getting a new one every five minutes. Liquor has more of a negative effect on my performance than it used to. It also seems to have more of the same on my judgment skills.
-1*

I finally found a gorgeous little gal whose name I either never got or promptly forgot, with reason. As we walked a crooked line to the door, I realized that she'd had a few too many. I pictured a problem, but the sight of that ass in front of me blew all reason out the window. We were no more than two miles away when she started bawling and telling me her problems with verbally abusive room-mates. The tears were real and copious. We immediately returned and I gave her 100 kuai for taxi/whatever before going back in. Drunken provider I don't know just isn't worth the risk.
-1*

Heading in, I remembered another small problem. I was so ready to go earlier that I had popped a V as we walked out. The clock was ticking for my big head losing all control of the process. Premature pharmication.
-1*

I still wasn't having much luck finding anything I liked, other than one who was taken and slipped me her number. I finally thought ahead.
+.5*

I finally found a decent looker, had one drink with her and we left. Something about her voice sounded familiar, but I just wrote it off as many Russian sounding Mongolian accents sounding similar. She wanted the money first, which I firmly believe to be a no-no, but alcohol and V short-circuited logic. Service was terrible and she *****ed about everything, even the color of my sheets. I finally gave up on trying to get off and told her to get out. That's when she started laying into me about never taking her phone calls. It all came together. I had done her in January and avoided her ever since. You have to remember at least the great ones and the terrible ones, if not the mediocre ones.
-1.5*

I hadn't even asked her name. This might have warned me off. I think it's Aya or Arya. (I took her off my phone months ago.) 4:30am and I'm alone with little brother. Any effort must be judged on results as well as tactics, so
-1* (a little generous)

Overall mongering performance -5.5*. I don't know if I trust myself to get back on the horse.

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Meiguoguizi

10-16-07, 13:52

Zhuren

10-16-07, 17:36

All I can say:

Less booze, more Cialis. The latter lasts longer.

I hope someone gets a few pointers out of my "head-in-ass" behavior.

I had nothing going Friday, so I headed over to Maggie's Thursday night, arriving around midnight. It's a bit of a haul from nothern Haidian (60 kuai.) It seemed almost as crowded as a Fri./Sat. I really need to figure a way to get over there on Tues./Wed. Grabbed a beer and started strolling.

Although half the fun is finding new unsampled talent, there is really something to be said for proven value. Distracted by the thought of a perfect evening, I blew off a friendly, classy, acceptable performer named Jessie. She's about 5'9" (gotta work on my metrics)and slim with fairly short hair. I usually like them very short, so I let a good thing go.
-1/2*

I kept pacing from from front to back, working up a sweat, especially in the back, where it seemed a little warm. This seemed to make my bottles leak and I was getting a new one every five minutes. Liquor has more of a negative effect on my performance than it used to. It also seems to have more of the same on my judgment skills.
-1*

I finally found a gorgeous little gal whose name I either never got or promptly forgot, with reason. As we walked a crooked line to the door, I realized that she'd had a few too many. I pictured a problem, but the sight of that ass in front of me blew all reason out the window. We were no more than two miles away when she started bawling and telling me her problems with verbally abusive room-mates. The tears were real and copious. We immediately returned and I gave her 100 kuai for taxi/whatever before going back in. Drunken provider I don't know just isn't worth the risk.
-1*

Heading in, I remembered another small problem. I was so ready to go earlier that I had popped a V as we walked out. The clock was ticking for my big head losing all control of the process. Premature pharmication.
-1*

I still wasn't having much luck finding anything I liked, other than one who was taken and slipped me her number. I finally thought ahead.
+.5*

I finally found a decent looker, had one drink with her and we left. Something about her voice sounded familiar, but I just wrote it off as many Russian sounding Mongolian accents sounding similar. She wanted the money first, which I firmly believe to be a no-no, but alcohol and V short-circuited logic. Service was terrible and she *****ed about everything, even the color of my sheets. I finally gave up on trying to get off and told her to get out. That's when she started laying into me about never taking her phone calls. It all came together. I had done her in January and avoided her ever since. You have to remember at least the great ones and the terrible ones, if not the mediocre ones.
-1.5*

I hadn't even asked her name. This might have warned me off. I think it's Aya or Arya. (I took her off my phone months ago.) 4:30am and I'm alone with little brother. Any effort must be judged on results as well as tactics, so
-1* (a little generous)

Overall mongering performance -5.5*. I don't know if I trust myself to get back on the horse.

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Member #3421

10-17-07, 00:51

OAH you forgot to mention the MOST reprehensible crime that Sammy has indeed committed against those of us who THOUGHT we were his friends.

I speak of his dastardly action via his driver when we were left LOCKED INSIDE his van outside Maggies that fateful night.

Paint the picture in your mind guys - Sammy inside Maggies running amok - his mates outside and LOCKED INSIDE his van with no escape.

Does that man have NO shame?

Ah, the memories! Furthermore, yours truely was stuck in the way back of the vehicle. Alone. At least you guys had sweeties wriggling in your laps. What I don't remember is how we got out. Did Sammy or his driver return, or did someone hop into the front seat to escape and let the rest of us out? I don't recall our imprisonment lasting that long. I also don't remember who I took home that night. Every night was so damn great, it all blends together! I'll have to go back and read our posts.

NBG

Misakimao

10-17-07, 05:11

Ragnarok42

10-18-07, 01:50

Although I enjoy maintaining a friendly and intimate relationship with young women in the business, seeing them several times over the years, I've discovered that repeated contact and a friendly daytime interaction can be misinterpreted as a willingness to move into boyfriend status with the accompanying financial and psychic burdens. It's easy enough to tell her to 'take off', but often I would like to continue to periodically (at my discretion) 'get together'.

Any thoughts, gentlemen, on techniques to keep regulars happy and accessible once they want to become a 'xiao lao po'?

I sympathize, you are going through a tricky situation. I know its easy to say "to hell with it" and tell her to f*ck off, but some of the best sex I have had in China (or any other city) has been with WG who have become "friendly" with me. Offering their 18 year old cousin for a 3P session, bareback sex, anal...etc.

But they almost always want to progress their relationship with us, either monatarily or emotionally or both. DONT DO IT. We are seen as quick ways to up their social standing and change their otherwise desperate situation. You never are quite sure how they really feel about you after you start buying them things when they demand it.

But from my experience (and this might sound trite) it is best to be honest and sincere about what you want. Tell them you enjoy your time with her and you want to only keep your relationship on a physical, booty call level. Sure a meal or small gift here or there wont hurt, but its still a mostly once in a while deal. Then leave her out to dry for a little while. Make her feel insecure and scared that you will find someone else. You will find that soon she will call and be much more willing to work with you.

And if it doesnt....then cut the strings quickly. I have had two or three instances like this and was surprised when I was sincere with them they either backed off, never contacted me again or kept the relationship simple.

Hope this is helpful and good luck. Remember, you can always find another fabulous toy so dont get too attached to any one particular one. Just my 2 RMB.

Sammon

10-18-07, 03:51

Most of the girls who go out with foreign men whether P4P or normal are looking for a meal ticket or plane ticket out of their poverty unless they are gainfully employed and fall in love with you.
I am sure everybody including me have had GFE relationships in China and elsewhere. The girls I was with want to be my Gf and asked me to put them up in a apartment and will gladly entertain me when I am in town. Initially they tell me I do not have to pay her monthly expenses except the rent. But I am sure the Buffallo story will come sooner or later.
In my opinion unless you are staying long time it is not good to have a GF waiting for you. You can never be sure what the local girl is doing while you are away.
Having said that it is a nice feeling to see your girl wating for you at the airport.

Bad Boy Billy

10-18-07, 04:08

One of My friends in Beijing told me that some 5 star hotel in Beijing raied the room charge for last night of 2008 Olympic 2,600USD.

I am just curious that how the Olympic game affect this market.

Maybe WGs in Bejing will charge 2000-3000USD for 1 night during Olympic season..

No shit Sherlock?

You think the w.h.o.r.e.s might put up prices when they know the city will be full of dumb fucks with bulging pockets of cash who have no idea what the normal going rate is?

Now seriously - if you honestly do not understand what the thought processes for the WG's will be just prior to, during and shortly after the games period then I suggest 're-education' for you my friend.

Infomatic

10-18-07, 12:28

I do not know Sammy.

Actually I have never met anyone from this BBS.

Maybe I came across the old timers at different locations.

In my case:

I have lived and/or worked in 21 countries.

Helping total strangers is not always a tea-party.

Most of you guys are here on business and then "see-ya-bye-bye".

I have assisted, helped too many guys in my humble life. Giving cash, business clothes, offering rooms, presenting connexions. And I don't remember the benefit of it, if not for the single statisfaction of "boosting-one-another"

So. If Sammy drops anyone with no warning what so ever, it might be for the simple reasons that he is tired to carry around drunks, or to have to listen to a bunch of BS.

In any case, he understand very well that you guys will contact him again, in 6 month or so, when you will need him.

Sammy_T

10-19-07, 04:49

So. If Sammy drops anyone with no warning what so ever, it might be for the simple reasons that he is tired to carry around drunks, or to have to listen to a bunch of BS.

In any case, he understand very well that you guys will contact him again, in 6 month or so, when you will need him.
Infomatic -

Thanks for coming to my defense. I have taken all of the recent comments as friendly ribbing from a close group of friends. When I break free from my family and work responsibilities I have a tendency to “over do it” in the drinking department. I have learned after making a fool of myself, and waking up in some pretty strange places, that it is best to simply slip away and go home when I have crossed the line from buzzed and feeling good, to flat out drunk. Unfortunately I don’t always catch myself in time.

That being said, I plan to cut out the hard liquor and stick to beer so I can enjoy the entire evening when we all gather together here in Beijing.

I look forward to meeting up with any and all of you who visit Beijing, sharing a beer, and some interesting stories.

Sammy

Geon64

10-19-07, 08:38

Is there any place I can get a good BJ in BJ?

Bad Boy Billy

10-20-07, 00:25

Is there any place I can get a good BJ in BJ?

Is the Pope a Catholic?

Does Raggedy Anne have cloth titts?

Do bears shit in the forest?

All stupid questions - all similar to yours above - of course man there are 1000's of places to get a good blow job.

Step 1 - RTFF

Step 2 - Arrive in Beijing

Step 3 - Go to ANY of the well documented w.h.o.r.e hangouts as listed countless times in this thread.

Step 4 - Wave a handful of red Maos in the air whilst you stand amidst the throng of providors and point to your didi at same time.

Step 5 - Try to stay apright as you are 'mobbed' by your truck load of new girlfriends ALL wanting to exchange that 'BLOW JOB' for the currency you have in your hand.

It aint rocket science mate.

Da Bot

10-20-07, 23:50

Having RTFF I decided to check out Wang Jing Xin Cheng, so I took the 50RMB cab ride from Haidian. I haven't been there before, so I went just before dusk so I'd have some light while I walked around exploring. Based on other reports here I went looking for buildings 417 and 419.

As my taxi entered si qu (area 4), building 418 was on my right. As it turns out, building 417 was on my left, but you don't know that from the street, because the building number is on the other side. Anyway, after wandering around a bit and asking in my very limited Chinese, I found building 417.

I entered and went through the first floor. I am lao wai, and I don't speak much Chinese, and read absolutely none. I couldn't find anything that looked like it offered "massaji." So finally I went outside and down the ramp into the basement.

The basement of these buildings looks a bit scary, not a place a lao wai might want to find himself alone. Still, I went through it all, and never did find anything that looked like a massage place. I didn't feel like just knocking on doors, especially given my limited language.

So I left, and went looking for building 419. It's not right next to 417 and 418, it's further back into the complex. There were lots of people out on the sidewalks and in the small plaza, and I was able to ask enough to get them to point out 419.

I went into the basement of 419, and found only one massage place, just inside the entrance on the left. I was taken to a small room that was mostly bed and with a bolt on the door. This looked promising.

A few minutes later number 009 came in. She's a very petite 21-year-old, not gorgeous but pretty. I say 6.5. She motioned that I should undress and gave me paper boxers to wear.

She gave a decent back massage, and then proceeded to pull down those shorts and work over my ass and especially the peritoneal area. The little bot was getting quite excited.

Then the flip, and lots of attention to the little bot. BUT she would not take off her clothes, and made it clear that this was HJ only, no BJ, no FS. My hands could wander, but that was it. Finally, after a lot of cajoling (in mime), I was able to get her to take off everything. We then proceeded to a (somewhat) happy ending.

009 is very sweet, and tried to teach me some Chinese. I think I had more luck teaching her a bit of English.

Lessons learned for a newby:

- If you're lao wai, if you don't speak the language, and don't read the language, forget about building 417. You need to get explicit directions or expert advice, or you won't find anything there.

- Same goes for building 419 if you want anything more than rub-and-tug.

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Infomatic

10-21-07, 18:20

Is the Pope a Catholic?

Does Raggedy Anne have cloth titts?

Do bears shit in the forest?

All stupid questions - all similar to yours above - of course man there are 1000's of places to get a good blow job.

Step 1 - RTFF

Step 2 - Arrive in Beijing

Step 3 - Go to ANY of the well documented w.h.o.r.e hangouts as listed countless times in this thread.

Step 4 - Wave a handful of red Maos in the air whilst you stand amidst the throng of providors and point to your didi at same time.

Step 5 - Try to stay apright as you are 'mobbed' by your truck load of new girlfriends ALL wanting to exchange that 'BLOW JOB' for the currency you have in your hand.

It aint rocket science mate. IT WASN'T NECESSARY (sorry caps) to be rude or narcissist when answering the OP. Or better, just don't answer at all.

Anyway. !.NO-! It is not an easy task to find a GOOD BLOW JOB in China. Chinese hookers do it it because they are paid or it. But!.NO-! , the majority isn't good at it.

Infomatic

10-21-07, 18:27

Then the flip, and lots of attention to the little bot. BUT she would not take off her clothes, and made it clear that this was HJ only, no BJ, no FS. My hands could wander, but that was it. Finally, after a lot of cajoling (in mime), I was able to get her to take off everything. We then proceeded to a (somewhat) happy ending.Cool post Da Bot. Don't worry, Wangjing is safe. You might get few dirty looks from the Korean, but nothing more.

After she took off her clothes, but all of them?

Did you have ST of HJ?

What was the damaged?

Thx

Ragnarok42

10-22-07, 01:40

Anyway, after wandering around a bit and asking in my very limited Chinese, I found building 417.

I entered and went through the first floor. I am lao wai, and I don't speak much Chinese, and read absolutely none. I couldn't find anything that looked like it offered "massaji." So finally I went outside and down the ramp into the basement.

The basement of these buildings looks a bit scary, not a place a lao wai might want to find himself alone. Still, I went through it all, and never did find anything that looked like a massage place. I didn't feel like just knocking on doors, especially given my limited language.

So I left, and went looking for building 419. It's not right next to 417 and 418, it's further back into the complex. There were lots of people out on the sidewalks and in the small plaza, and I was able to ask enough to get them to point out 419.

I went into the basement of 419, and found only one massage place, just inside the entrance on the left. I was taken to a small room that was mostly bed and with a bolt on the door. This looked promising.

A few minutes later number 009 came in. She's a very petite 21-year-old, not gorgeous but pretty. I say 6.5. She motioned that I should undress and gave me paper boxers to wear.

009 is very sweet, and tried to teach me some Chinese. I think I had more luck teaching her a bit of English.

Dude, sorry you got freaked about being in 417. I am an ABC who speaks and reads and even I got a bit spooked. Here is how you go:

-take the ramp downstairs.
-when you see a "fork" in the corridor, take the one on the right, that seems to lead deeper into the building and keep on walking right.
-there should be signs, I cannot remember what the name was, but its a green sign with bamboo images.
-keep going until you reach a dead end, take a left
-keep walking down, you will pass a dark staircase and some residential units
-the place has Christmas lights with a sliding glass door.
-when you go in, ask for the "te bie fu wu" (literally "special service") which will be 300 RMB
-if you choose they will give you a regular massage, but if you ask for FS after they will tack on the price IN ADDITION to your massage, so be clear what you want.

Good luck and dont be freaked. Most Chinese will happily ignore you and in general leave you alone. You would more likely bump into Freddy Krugger before you meet some beligerent Chinese guy.

#9 in 419 will go do FS, just not in the store. They have strict rules against it. But I regularly "order out" from there. The girls come to my place and its up to you to see what you can talk them into. I have had #22, 29 and 9 all come to my hotel room. All of them have stripped totally naked but only #9 allowed me FS, in fact she was the one who initiated. #29 is real cute with short hair and a fabulous body. She is on the period and I think she will allow me when she is done. #22 is a harder nut to crack, totally naked but not even a BJ. Makes me only want her more.

So the moral, get the girls to come over and sweet talk them into it. They will charge you the standard 170+cab fare there and back. FS will cost you more but again, see how well you negotiate. You seem to live far away so they might hesitate about going to your place and work on your Chinese skills, the girls can be really relutant to go much further with any lao wai that cannot take the time to learn some Chinese.

Hope this helps. There is plenty of good pussy out there, you just have to spend a little time to find it. Good luck and happy hunting.

P.S. DO NOT TELL ANY OF THE GIRLS OF 419 THAT WE KNOW THEY WILL DO FS OUTSIDE. They are under strict orders not to and whenever they do they risk being fired, so be considerate and pretend that you are so HONORED they will give you FS in spite of their rules. Makes them feel special ;-)

Bad Boy Billy

10-22-07, 05:18

Newbeijingguy and others that might be interested.

I received an SMS from the 5ft 10in blonde Russian 'Movie Star' yesterday.

She is currently back in Moscow but planning to return to Beijing approx end of November.

I gave her a quick call and she told me she LOVES me and misses me SO MUCH (Translation - she loves the money I give her after FUCKING her).

Anyway - any of you guys who might be looking for this Russian GEM she will be back in Hollywood end of November.

Just go into Hollywood - look around - if she is there you will spot her - she is TALL AND STUNNING.

Da Bot

10-22-07, 16:09

Cool post Da Bot. Don't worry, Wangjing is safe. You might get few dirty looks from the Korean, but nothing more.

After she took off her clothes, but all of them?

Did you have ST of HJ?

What was the damaged?

ThxYes, she covered the window in the door with my shirt, and then took them all off. All I got was HJ with my fingers in her pussy. I gave her 200 kuai--more than I need to, I know, but I'm a sucker for a sweet young thing.

HappyDaze

10-23-07, 00:21

I will be visiting Beijing in a few weeks and will be staying at The Shangri-La Hotel, 29 Zizhuyuan Road, Beijing 100089.

It's located between the third and fourth rings on the Summer Palace side of Beijing. There's a map of its location on the hotel's website.

http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila

I've RTFF and searched it, also. But there is nothing to be found about this hotel. Is it GF? Is it near any place recommended highly on the forum? Is it a place you know?

Your assistance will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Wo Caonima

10-23-07, 01:45

Hi dear all old farts and young dudes here,

I'm going back to Beijing next month around 5th for a visit. I'm a Chinese and have spent 5 years so far here in States. I'm planning get some good bangings in town. Before I always go by myself or w/ my Chinese friends. But I just found this forum and think it would be fun to go with some of you who only know China from Chinese restaurants. Anyway, all of you desperate fuckers, hit me if you wanna patrol together and have some good time!

[Email address deleted by Admin]

Peace

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Bad Boy Billy

10-23-07, 04:09

My understanding is that the 'Party Meeting' is now over?

Ok locals - report on Pig, Maggies and Hollywood please?

Everything back to normal?

Eyebrow777

10-23-07, 13:07

One Wing Low

10-23-07, 13:39

I was there last week checking out the expat bars. Maggies' girls are not very ggood looking. In fact they are hideous looking. Pigs has 1 or 2 fuckable. Hollywood has probably around 5. Prices are high and quality is very depressing.

I made friends with a few very beautiful and willing young professional girls in BJ. However they are not the types who would offer hot sex 24-hour a day for a pervert like me. So I need commercial back-up plans...

Where do local Chinese go for the tall, pretty Beijing girls I kept hearing about? There must be a very lively market with lots of options for sex and entertainment with all those people with good tastes in BJ.

Hi dear all old farts and young dudes here,

I'm going back to Beijing next month around 5th for a visit. I'm a Chinese and have spent 5 years so far here in States. I'm planning get some good bangings in town. Before I always go by myself or w/ my Chinese friends. But I just found this forum and think it would be fun to go with some of you who only know China from Chinese restaurants. Anyway, all of you desperate fuckers, hit me if you wanna patrol together and have some good time!

Peace

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One Wing Low

10-23-07, 13:55

at this party?

If not, I am not intereted.

My understanding is that the 'Party Meeting' is now over?

Ok locals - report on Pig, Maggies and Hollywood please?

Everything back to normal?

Infomatic

10-23-07, 18:02

Yes, she covered the window in the door with my shirt, and then took them all off. All I got was HJ with my fingers in her pussy. I gave her 200 kuai--more than I need to, I know, but I'm a sucker for a sweet young thing.Nice move indeed.

Please EVERYONE! Never pay more than 200 for a HJ in Beijing! Thank you!

You will have it for 100 or less, I guaranty you that.

Neverwin

10-23-07, 21:20

Ragnarok42,

Is it at all possible to share the phone-number of the 417 palor (if it's not against the rules here)?

Thanks dude

Bad Boy Billy

10-23-07, 22:56

[QUOTE=One Wing Low] Maggies' girls are not very ggood looking. In fact they are hideous looking. Pigs has 1 or 2 fuckable. Hollywood has probably around 5. Prices are high and quality is very depressing. QUOTE]

OWL - beauty is in the EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.

I totally disagree with your assertion that Mongolian girls are 'hideous' looking.

Indeed the 'Mongolian' look may not be for all

BUT

I really have seen countless STUNNING Mongolians in Maggies over the years - quite a few quite recently.

I do agree to some extent about The Pig - I am not a great fan of the quality there either.

Hollywood - once again - subjective - August / September hads a great line-up of lots of different types there.

Yes Beijing aint cheap - but shit happens - go with the flow or go home.

Nobody Doe

10-24-07, 02:17

Hi Caonima,

I am from Taiwan and I have been living and working in Beijing for 2 years. I would love to meet you and your friends to chat more since we all are Chinese. The problem is my wife is now back in town (she was in Taiwan in Aug - Sep so I had some good time in Beijing, but she's now back), so I can have some lunch / coffee / dinner / beers with you guys, but I am not sure if I can go mongering after dinner. Still I would love to meet and chat with you guys, and perhaps you guys know some effective ways to hide my mongering trails from my wife after I get back home. :)

As this forum does not allow posting phone numbers / email addresses, you can just pay 20USD for one year subscription fee (or pay less for a shorter term subscription) to get Private Messaging (PM) enabled and PM with me.

Looking forward to meeting with you guys.

Cheers,

Taiwan Guy

Sebastian My

10-24-07, 05:44

I was there last week checking out the expat bars. Maggies' girls are not very ggood looking. In fact they are hideous looking. Pigs has 1 or 2 fuckable. Hollywood has probably around 5. Prices are high and quality is very depressing.

I made friends with a few very beautiful and willing young professional girls in BJ. However they are not the types who would offer hot sex 24-hour a day for a pervert like me. So I need commercial back-up plans...

Where do local Chinese go for the tall, pretty Beijing girls I kept hearing about? There must be a very lively market with lots of options for sex and entertainment with all those people with good tastes in BJ.

Passion Bar or Diamond Age will have what you want, but it will not be cheap. Otherwise you need to try KTV's - there are lots of them around - but also not cheap.. However the last 2 weeks was the people party congress - so you will find it rather difficult to get any form of quality right now - unless you have your own regular service providers. I would expect things will back to normal next week.

Papi Putito

10-24-07, 07:06

One Wing Low

Too bad our schedules didn't cross, we could ave hit a few spots.

I have hit both Maggies and Hollywood in the past 10 days and while I agree that the talent in both was a bit less than usual, there were still some solid 8's to be had in both and I have a pretty tight scale.

I have found "stunners" however by chance almost every trip here. Last night I met one in the elevator of my hotel. I asked if she was staying there and she said "no" so I continued to hit on her. She is really the picture of the Chinese model, 22 and just smokin' hot. I couldn't close the deal at the time but I gave her my room number and made an appointment for her to meet me in the lobby this morning. She called at 9:00, returned to the hotel and $2000 rmb later she was in my bed. Now I rarely will shell out this kind of coin but really, this girl was too hot to pass up. Her performance was just so so but I almost shot my wad just lookin' at her! I probably will not have a return taste however as this was just a nice change of pace. For the price, I really prefer the Russian girls with the occassional local or Mongolian girl tossed in for flavor.

This is not the first time I have happened upon top-shelf girls in some of the better hotels. While I normally stay in the xin qiao where I have an account, this trip I was in the new 5 star Sofitel and I am sure that there is hot talent going in and out of this place often. Same deal with the Kerry Center but I am really too cheap to stay in these places often or taste the pricey local talent more than just occassionaly but you can visit the bars (Kerry Center in particular) in some of these hotels and often find hotties fishing for yuan.

I got real lucky this trip and met a pretty hot freebie French journalist while getting a bite to eat. This was a real stroke of luck. I don't pursue freebies often as it is usually more expensive than setting a deal and I am not a young model myself but, this was a real freebie and so far, have not a dime spent on her.

Come on, I know you go to Adelitas in TJ and there too, you have to sift through a lot of silt to find the gems. China is no different and factoring in the cost bs. the time the girls spends with you, China is still a little cheaper as well and with more variety.

Happy hunting. Maybe see you south of the border one day.

Bad Boy Billy

10-24-07, 08:19

Papi - so accurate - this is China - you just never know WHERE or WHEN an opportunity with a STUNNER or GEM will pop up.

Last visit when I was staying at China World Hotel - I picked up a 27yo 5ft 9in tall African GEM with a killer body from Congo.

She was sitting in Starbucks two nights running - all I did was say hi first night - sat and chatted next night - a few sms's over the next 3 or 4 days - RMB150 for lunch for the 2 of us and all afternoon in the sack.

Cost? ZERO - plenty of stunners around - just go snare em.

One Wing Low

Too bad our schedules didn't cross, we could ave hit a few spots.

I have hit both Maggies and Hollywood in the past 10 days and while I agree that the talent in both was a bit less than usual, there were still some solid 8's to be had in both and I have a pretty tight scale.

I have found "stunners" however by chance almost every trip here. Last night I met one in the elevator of my hotel. I asked if she was staying there and she said "no" so I continued to hit on her. She is really the picture of the Chinese model, 22 and just smokin' hot. I couldn't close the deal at the time but I gave her my room number and made an appointment for her to meet me in the lobby this morning. She called at 9:00, returned to the hotel and $2000 rmb later she was in my bed. Now I rarely will shell out this kind of coin but really, this girl was too hot to pass up. Her performance was just so so but I almost shot my wad just lookin' at her! I probably will not have a return taste however as this was just a nice change of pace. For the price, I really prefer the Russian girls with the occassional local or Mongolian girl tossed in for flavor.

This is not the first time I have happened upon top-shelf girls in some of the better hotels. While I normally stay in the xin qiao where I have an account, this trip I was in the new 5 star Sofitel and I am sure that there is hot talent going in and out of this place often. Same deal with the Kerry Center but I am really too cheap to stay in these places often or taste the pricey local talent more than just occassionaly but you can visit the bars (Kerry Center in particular) in some of these hotels and often find hotties fishing for yuan.

I got real lucky this trip and met a pretty hot freebie French journalist while getting a bite to eat. This was a real stroke of luck. I don't pursue freebies often as it is usually more expensive than setting a deal and I am not a young model myself but, this was a real freebie and so far, have not a dime spent on her.

Come on, I know you go to Adelitas in TJ and there too, you have to sift through a lot of silt to find the gems. China is no different and factoring in the cost bs. the time the girls spends with you, China is still a little cheaper as well and with more variety.

Happy hunting. Maybe see you south of the border one day.

One Wing Low

10-24-07, 12:20

Hi Papi,

Too bad our schedules were just misaligned by 1 week.

Looks like you had a good time with the French journalist? The freebies, if good-looking, are always more satisfying than P4P.

However, the girls in Seibu, as reported in the SZ thread, have been acting like they were super horny. Some were gazing at my dick, caressing it in the most loving manner.

Sunny from Pigs, were kissing me all over my body in the heat of the passion as we fucked. She wanted to fuck again right after the first. A nice girl to take out to dinner etc...

Unless you know something I dont, Chinese girls are far more passisonate than Mexican.

If you are back, perhaps we can meet in TJ this weekend to swap notes.

One Wing Low

Too bad our schedules didn't cross, we could ave hit a few spots.

I have hit both Maggies and Hollywood in the past 10 days and while I agree that the talent in both was a bit less than usual, there were still some solid 8's to be had in both and I have a pretty tight scale.

I got real lucky this trip and met a pretty hot freebie French journalist while getting a bite to eat. This was a real stroke of luck. I don't pursue freebies often as it is usually more expensive than setting a deal and I am not a young model myself but, this was a real freebie and so far, have not a dime spent on her.

Come on, I know you go to Adelitas in TJ and there too, you have to sift through a lot of silt to find the gems. China is no different and factoring in the cost bs. the time the girls spends with you, China is still a little cheaper as well and with more variety.

Happy hunting. Maybe see you south of the border one day.

HappyDaze

10-24-07, 13:27

Bonbon John

10-24-07, 20:50

I went to Beijing HRC couple of weeks ago to see what they have to offer. I entered before midnight and the amount of girls was guite small. But I have not been there for some months so I don't know how it has been lately.

Anyway, found a very petite and slim Chinese girl that was immediately giving some tongue to me. Well, what can man do but buy a beer and have a small talk... and then back to Kunlun Hotel. The hotel is nice, I always use that and it's really girl friendly.

Everything went fine in the beginning, shower together, no money asked before hand, nice BJ but then.... after some minutes of fucking girl starts to say that it's enought, she can not take anymore, my cock is too big. And I'm just avarege size, but she was really tight. I said that if we can not finish I'm not going to pay full amount. She offered to call her friend who can finish me. I said fine, let's do so but the amount is same, no more. She called and after some minuted ok looking girl knocks my door. Few minutes later I have two girls in my bed, other one riding my cock and other licking my body... and what a fuck, same thing again- too big. That's it, I've had it.

I ask girls to leave and they ask money. I said you get money when I have my balls empty so spread your legs and give me some pussy. They say that they can not do it, too big. But if they can have 100 RMB for taxi that's ok. Sounded very fair so I gave them 200, anyway I got good BJ and lot of fucking, but not "happy ending".

Lessons learnt... I only go with Mongolian from this onwards, they are always good choice. No problems and always good service and size does not matter :)...

John

Beijing Xiber

10-25-07, 02:52

Eyebrow, somehow I missed finding the Beijing hotel thread. Duh! Thank you.

Now I just need to find out what might be near the Shangri-La Hotel. There seem to be two Shangri-La's in Beijing. One is at the Kerry Center. The other (which I will be staying at) is on the opposite side of the city, between the third and fourth ring roads, not too far from the Summer Palace.

Anyone know how far from Maggies? Or from a very good massage establishment?

I live on the west side of Beijing near the Shangri-La where you will be staying. If traffic is moving good, you are still about 30 minutes away from most of the spots like Maggies, Den, HRC. On a bad traffic day, it has taken me as much as 90 minutes to get across town.

No subway near Shangrila and it is a %^&*( to get in and out of the hotel by cab.

With that said, the hotel is a true 5 star hotel. As far as action nearby, unless you speka Chinese or are with someone who does, I suggest you not try the west side.

Just my POV. I could be wrong.

Have fun and keep safe.

BJXB

DogRice

10-25-07, 07:01

When I travel to Beijing, I usually stayed in Shangri-La (the one in the West Side). I look like a Chinese, and able to speak some very limited Mandrian. However, I was not able to catch any street action around the hotel and I was not able to find any Sauna/Massage Place.

So, Shangri-La is pretty bad in terms of mongering but it is a nice hotel as Xiber said.

If anyone has good suggestion around Shangri-La, please do give us a pointer.

I live on the west side of Beijing near the Shangri-La where you will be staying. If traffic is moving good, you are still about 30 minutes away from most of the spots like Maggies, Den, HRC. On a bad traffic day, it has taken me as much as 90 minutes to get across town.

No subway near Shangrila and it is a %^&*( to get in and out of the hotel by cab.

With that said, the hotel is a true 5 star hotel. As far as action nearby, unless you speka Chinese or are with someone who does, I suggest you not try the west side.

Just my POV. I could be wrong.

Have fun and keep safe.

BJXB

DogRice

10-25-07, 07:25

Hi Caonima,

I am a Chinese and also living in the States and have very limited Mandrian. Where did you go usually w/ your Chinese friends in Beijing? I am relatively new to mongering. Maybe we can sync up and you can show me around all of the fun places around Beijing. I will be in Beijing on Nov 8th for 2 weeks.

It would be great if you can get your membership so we can PM each other.

Thanks!

Imonlyvisiting

10-25-07, 14:32

Second trip to Beijing, first time pooning. I've RTFF, and would like to thank all those who contribute for helping someone like me know prices and what to expect. I'm from the states, 40's, and wouldn't mind checking out the "normal routes" with someone who knows there way around on fri or sat night. I'll even buy some beers from your troubles.

Thanks

JPF

10-25-07, 16:15

I like to give back to the forum for all the help I get from it. I can't provide a report on Maggie's or Hollywood since I saw nothing there of interest (but it was during the People's Congress and I was there "early" at around 11pm) but I can give the location for newbies like myself so that you don't have to wade through hundreds of messages:

Maggie's: south end of Ritan Park. If you think of the Park as a clock, Maggie's is at 6pm. Right in the center of the south side. On the north side of the street adjacent to the park. At a traffic light (for the road going south from the park).

Hollywood: north-west corner of Ritan Park. Hollywood is at 10pm (of the clock) at the north end of the street that is on the west side of the park. Across the street from the park. 40RMB entrance fee. About a 10 minute walk from Maggie's.

Benito9999

10-25-07, 21:41

Hi, guys,

Not a report but a question. Since there is so much knowledge around here I thought I'd ask you pros.

Will be going to Beijing next year in spring and am looking for some action as well. Taking someone to the hotel is not an option!

I do know that around Tiananmen and the forbidden city are quite some BBS. Are there any other areas where one can find an abundancy of BBS? Ok, just a couple would be alright.

Will propably be staying north / northeast in Beijing. Any tip for a playgrojund near there is appreciated as is any other.

And one other question. Police a problem?

Cheers,

Benito

Sebastian My

10-25-07, 22:48

When I travel to Beijing, I usually stayed in Shangri-La (the one in the West Side). I look like a Chinese, and able to speak some very limited Mandrian. However, I was not able to catch any street action around the hotel and I was not able to find any Sauna/Massage Place.

So, Shangri-La is pretty bad in terms of mongering but it is a nice hotel as Xiber said.

If anyone has good suggestion around Shangri-La, please do give us a pointer.

The west side of town is not a good location for this type of activities. KTV's may be the best option, Marriot West is close by, go their and try the KTV. The KTV is a bit hard to find so you may need to ask someone in the hotel, but its in the same building. But it may be a bit boring by yourself.

Carlos Primeros

10-26-07, 07:35

I was yesterday a Maggie' s - the girls started to come in around 10.00 pm. Most Mongolians and Russian girls. No Chinese.

Had approx. 80 girls there.

Alternativley you can go to the Lido Holiday Inn - the Pig & Wistle Bar. There are every evening after 8.00 pm some girls hanging around - the selection is not as big as at Maggie's.

Thanks good the Party Conference is over / security was everywhere.

Carlos

Zhuren

10-26-07, 10:46

Yes! It's back to normal again - including the sky. Blue sky gone, the pea soup is back ... girls are back.

I was yesterday a Maggie' s - the girls started to come in around 10.00 pm. Most Mongolians and Russian girls. No Chinese.

Had approx. 80 girls there.

Alternativley you can go to the Lido Holiday Inn - the Pig & Wistle Bar. There are every evening after 8.00 pm some girls hanging around - the selection is not as big as at Maggie's.

Thanks good the Party Conference is over / security was everywhere.

Carlos

Ragnarok42

10-26-07, 17:57

For those of us who like our cheap sex in dark, underground Wangjing massage parlors, it is a dark day. The cops have closed the MP in the basement of Bldg 417. Door was locked, lights were out and nobody home.

But since I needed my itch scratched I walked all around. Many of the other places mentioned in the forum no longer offer "special services", seems the police have not let up the pressure since the big Party meeting. Finally found a place (won't mention the place cause I am suspicious that the authorities monitor what we post here) and YES THEY HAVE FS. Price is still 300 and the girl had titanic tits (they were at least an F cup, but they do come firmer and better shaped). But the girl was pretty cute, looked Korean though she said she was from Henan. Did cowboy and mish but I found it hard to finish. So she offered to use her breasts for an extra 100. I am thinking why the hell not, its not everyday you see these kind of knockers on a Chinese girl. Have to tell you, looking at her cute face while she sandwiched me btwn her breasts did it for me. Came all over her chest. She cleaned herself up and complained that they are being monitored everyday and most of the girls have gone home. Told me that they have a japanese girl who speaks Chinese and I should have her next time. Definately give it a try, haven't had sushi in a long time.

Overall damage was 400 for a rather lackluster experience. The girl was a cute 7 and the boobs were an added bonus, but wouldn't see her again. Sex was a 4 at best but the breast fuck was outstanding. Place is pretty safe and clean. Despite all of that I would not recommend the place unless you were like me and needed to get my rocks off.

Infomatic

10-26-07, 20:46

It has nothing to do with the Party's meeting - the more we report on places the more they get racketed by the cops.

Nobody Doe

10-26-07, 22:30

Passion Bar or Diamond Age will have what you want, but it will not be cheap. Otherwise you need to try KTV's - there are lots of them around - but also not cheap.. However the last 2 weeks was the people party congress - so you will find it rather difficult to get any form of quality right now - unless you have your own regular service providers. I would expect things will back to normal next week.Hi Sebastian My,

I went to Diamond Age in August (a Sunday night) at 12:30AM and it was closed (then I went to Passion Bar and wrote my report of one of the infamous 12 "regulars"), then the next day some other guy also posted on the forum stating Diamond Age is closed.

Passion Bar (re-opened one) is not as good as the Old one. There is also a post in the forum stating there are only 12 regulars in the Passion Bar, and none of them is worth the price tag. From my limited experience of the "new" Passion Bar in August, I also agree with that bro. That bro also wrote they kept all the better girls in the Passion KTV to get you to pay high price KTV rooms (in addition to high price girls).

I also went to some KTVs in early Sep, trying to find my taste of stunners, but unfortunately it's also not easy to find one from the higher price KTV girls. The only one I was satisfied with both her look and her body, and I want to do her again, I paid 2500RMB over night. She's just graduated from a university (北師大), major in Management Information System, and preparing to go to Singapore for master degree study next spring.

Sebastian My, I read many of your reports and would love to meet you in person to chat about more. You know many places to hunt for "model type" girls in Beijing. Please PM me so we can set up a schedule to meet up if you are in town.

Cheers,

Taiwan Guy

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Wo Caonima

10-26-07, 22:55

Sebastian My

10-27-07, 00:15

It has nothing to do with the Party's meeting - the more we report on places the more they get racketed by the cops.

Having stayed in beijing for the last 10 years I have seen several party congress's and the police always make a special effort to clean up the town before hand. They do the same during other international events as well.

However saying that what you are saying is also VERY true. Any posting which involves someone from china doing immoral activities probably gets the attention of the authorities. I don't know what we can do about this - i tend to restrict all my postings to laowai/laowai action these days. (I will provide other information to those who PM me)

So for the record - I am not aware of any immoral godless activity involving any citizen of the PRC - its only us degenerate running dogs of western capitalism involving in these activities with other running dogs of western capitalism.

Mao Dun

10-27-07, 05:16

Gents:

Speaking of the West side, I've been living in the university area for over a year now, and I keep my eye out for BBS when I'm stuck in traffic jams, etc. I am fairly certain I saw one to the east of Suzhou bridge on the south side of the 3rd ring, before you get to the Sanyi miao bus stop on the way to Sitong bridge (Friendship Hotel). I moved to the Qinghua area since then, so I haven't had an opportunity to check it out.

As for up here, I heard indirectly (via a student project involving a survey on student sexuality) that some Beida and Qinghua students get off at BBS in the area. I'm thinking that is the rather sketchy stretch north of Qinghua's West gate, mostly little shops and restaurants. It's on Zhongguancun bei dajie (along the east side of the Old Summer Palace/Yuanmingyuan). I was buying a bike at the Giant shop on the west side of the first walkbridge north of the Qinghua gate, and as i was testing the bike I saw a likely BBS about 150m south of the bridge.

What I mean by a likely BBS is a place with a barber pole but with very little equipment and interior decoration inside, and 4-5 girls about 20 y.o. sitting just inside the entrance. Hope i'm not mistaken ! :P

Mao Dun

When I travel to Beijing, I usually stayed in Shangri-La (the one in the West Side). I look like a Chinese, and able to speak some very limited Mandrian. However, I was not able to catch any street action around the hotel and I was not able to find any Sauna/Massage Place.

So, Shangri-La is pretty bad in terms of mongering but it is a nice hotel as Xiber said.

If anyone has good suggestion around Shangri-La, please do give us a pointer.

DogRice

10-27-07, 05:36

Mao Dun,

Thanks for the info.

Just before I left Beijing last time, I found out that there are sevral saunas in the West side such as: (Sorry folks, some of them are only in Chinese, but w/ map):

http://www.dianping.com/shop/2189044

(I went there and asked them, and they have a $800 massage package. Seems like a FS to me. But I did not have time to check it out)

- http://www.dianping.com/shop/1882462
- http://www.langtaos.com/ (some ISG brothers already reported this)

Hopefully, next time I go to Beijing, I will have time to check them out.

Gents:

Speaking of the West side, I've been living in the university area for over a year now, and I keep my eye out for BBS when I'm stuck in traffic jams, etc. I am fairly certain I saw one to the east of Suzhou bridge on the south side of the 3rd ring, before you get to the Sanyi miao bus stop on the way to Sitong bridge (Friendship Hotel). I moved to the Qinghua area since then, so I haven't had an opportunity to check it out.

As for up here, I heard indirectly (via a student project involving a survey on student sexuality) that some Beida and Qinghua students get off at BBS in the area. I'm thinking that is the rather sketchy stretch north of Qinghua's West gate, mostly little shops and restaurants. It's on Zhongguancun bei dajie (along the east side of the Old Summer Palace/Yuanmingyuan). I was buying a bike at the Giant shop on the west side of the first walkbridge north of the Qinghua gate, and as i was testing the bike I saw a likely BBS about 150m south of the bridge.

What I mean by a likely BBS is a place with a barber pole but with very little equipment and interior decoration inside, and 4-5 girls about 20 y.o. sitting just inside the entrance. Hope i'm not mistaken ! :P

Mao Dun

DogRice

10-27-07, 05:42

Brother Wo Caonima,

You are already getting me excited, brother. I am in my early 30s, and I only need one hot check on bed each time.. (I am not superman on bed.. LOL) I am almost certain that I am taking off in the week of Nov 12.

Dogrice and Taiwan Guy,

I think it'll really cool to meet you guys down there in Beijing and look for some hot *****es. Although I don't know how old are you 2 and how many girls you need on your bed each time. LOL So I will be taking off next Wednesday from States and land on BJ on Thursday. I will get my membership upgraded in a couple of days. I'm just back to China for a month! ) Anyway, I will PM you guys and see if we can set up a company. Looking forward.

Bang Bang Bang and HohOHO!

Zhuren

10-27-07, 09:37

It has nothing to do with the Party's meeting - the more we report on places the more they get racketed by the cops.

Utter nonsense ....

So tell me, Einstein - Maggie's, the most talked-about venue in BJ, when was it raided last?

Purges and house-cleaning before high profile events are a known fact. And they are a worldwide phenomenon. Any US city that hosts a Democratic or Republican congress conducts more brutal sweeps - including arresting johns, impounding their cars as accessories and publishing their names.

Before last year's Soccer World Championship in Germany - under massive foreign pressure - all sex establishments , all perfectly legal under German law, were raided - under the pretext of looking for illegal aliens and "sex slaves" - of which they found none.

Gimme a break.

Now cleaning the air, and assuring a sparkling blue sky for the duration of the congress - that's a feat only China can pull off.

Zhuren

10-27-07, 09:47

However saying that what you are saying is also VERY true. Any posting which involves someone from china doing immoral activities probably gets the attention of the authorities. I don't know what we can do about this - i tend to restrict all my postings to laowai/laowai action these days. (I will provide other information to those who PM me)

So for the record - I am not aware of any immoral godless activity involving any citizen of the PRC - its only us degenerate running dogs of western capitalism involving in these activities with other running dogs of western capitalism.

The times of the "running dogs of western capitalism" are long over (and "godless" is a bit misplaced anyway ..) Let's not be so self-centered here. If they would want to turn off reporting, they could do so at the flick of a switch. It's called the Chinese Firewall. When you have problems accessing ISG from China - THEN you know that the contents is deemed objectionable.

That's why I would advise to keep these postings free of any political discussions, and keep them on the topic of ISG: Sex.

Lao Ma

10-27-07, 10:24

SM posted with his tongue planted firmly in cheek, and it's certainly not remotely close to being a politically sensitive remark. I don't understand where that "lets not be self-centered" line comes from - light sarcasm has a place on the forum. Or maybe I'm missing something.

Anyway, China IS a godless society, at least the ruling Communist Party is.

Just landed back in Shanghai after 5 days in Beijing - I really feel for you brothers that have to breath that toxic air 7 x 24. (I lived in B J for years; never again. Life is short enough:)

Zhuren

10-27-07, 11:00

Anyway, China IS a godless society, at least the ruling Communist Party is.

Exactly. "Immoral godless activity" is an oxymoron around here.

Just landed back in Shanghai after 5 days in Beijing - I really feel for you brothers that have to breath that toxic air 7 x 24. (I lived in B J for years; never again. Life is short enough:)

You were lucky you got out. Yesterday, air traffic was severely hampered. But again, during the conference: Blue skies! I could see the mountains from my window. For three years, I had no idea they existed! In my book, they can have party conferences year round ....

Mao Dun

10-27-07, 13:13

DogRice:

Haha, it would be interesting to look into--most of the reviews on those pages are by women, or men who brought their whole families (the first one begins, "my dad recommended it, so I brought my whole family"). Their principal point of evaluation seems to be the quality of the buffet food. Judging from what the reviews say about the service options (live performances, fancy buffet dinner, etc.), and the fact that these reviewers who are definitely not getting FS say it is unusually expensive, it seems that an 800 yuan tab would not include FS. Just my subjective take. I have often passed by the first one, it's very huge and flashy, clearly targeting a broad public clientele.

Mao Dun

Mao Dun,

Thanks for the info.

Just before I left Beijing last time, I found out that there are sevral saunas in the West side such as: (Sorry folks, some of them are only in Chinese, but w/ map):

http://www.dianping.com/shop/2189044

(I went there and asked them, and they have a $800 massage package. Seems like a FS to me. But I did not have time to check it out)

- http://www.dianping.com/shop/1882462
- http://www.langtaos.com/ (some ISG brothers already reported this)

Hopefully, next time I go to Beijing, I will have time to check them out.

Oreally

10-27-07, 13:26

I saw my Mongolian girl I met at Hollywood again tonight at her place.

The one with the nice rack and tight puss.

This made the 3rd or 4th time with her.

Short time, I didn't last long, like I said it is tight. She would not budge on the long time price so I had to go.

Gave her 800.

I don't get many days off, and I work at night, so I have to take what I can get. I think I rotate to the day shift in about a month. It should get interesting.

Zhuren

10-27-07, 17:00

The dry season is officially over. Maggie's is hopping. Some stunning new talent has arrived from Ulan Batar. Also, new construction ... entrance towards the back until the dust settles. Maggies is enlarging the bar area. But business is unaffected.

Come on down!

SF69er

10-27-07, 17:33

Dogrice and Taiwan Guy,

I think it'll really cool to meet you guys down there in Beijing and look for some hot *****es. Although I don't know how old are you 2 and how many girls you need on your bed each time. LOL So I will be taking off next Wednesday from States and land on BJ on Thursday. I will get my membership upgraded in a couple of days. I'm just back to China for a month! ) Anyway, I will PM you guys and see if we can set up a company. Looking forward.

Bang Bang Bang and HohOHO!Can I join your party too? I am also from Taiwan (moved to the US when I was 13 and spent 5 years in Tokyo and 4 in Beijing/Shanghai). I know a couple good sauna and nightclub. I always have problems getting enought guys to go out to a nightclub with me after moving to Beijing. I will be in town around the 1st of next month.

I am hoping to pay a visit to the NC at Block 8 but so far I have no luck of finding the contact for a mama san there. I guess I will just have to drop in and meet someone. I did that at PolyPlazza years ago and the mama san Hao Ying became a close friend. I see some really hot chics outside the Block 8 NC every time I pass by. It is not cheap but may be worth the $.

Anyway, I hope to meet you guys soon.

Bad Boy Billy

10-28-07, 01:51

Sammy. Intransit, Zhuren

Billy will be in Beijing Nov 9 for 1 night - are you guys free?

Half price pizza and beer at The Den at around 8 to 8.30 - straight to Hollywood for a Russian desert - then to Maggies for late night supper?

Come on Intransit - you gotta come out of the closet sooner or later mate.

Sammy - tell Intransit he needs to re-connect with his debaucherous, depraved sinful past.

Beijing Fox

10-28-07, 03:44

Hi LaoMa (old horse?) I live and work in both Beijing and Shanghai - usually one week each. Beijing is not that bad. True, the toxic fumes prevented even planes from landing on Friday night, but today (Sunday) is blue sky and I can see the mountains (no congress on today) I have to admit that I prefer Shanghai, but I haven't found any girl there yet as cute and lovely as our Mongolian sisters in Maggie's (yes, of course,not all) I travel a lot and 'meet' girls here and there, but Beijin's Mongols have scored best so far.

SM posted with his tongue planted firmly in cheek, and it's certainly not remotely close to being a politically sensitive remark. I don't understand where that "lets not be self-centered" line comes from - light sarcasm has a place on the forum. Or maybe I'm missing something.

Anyway, China IS a godless society, at least the ruling Communist Party is.

Just landed back in Shanghai after 5 days in Beijing - I really feel for you brothers that have to breath that toxic air 7 x 24. (I lived in B J for years; never again. Life is short enough:)

Zhuren

10-28-07, 05:04

I'm on!

Agreed, we need to dispel rumors that Intransit married, joined the latter day saints, or - ugh - worse! Maybe Sammy will be gracious enough to add his fabled naked KTV to the menu. If he does that, I'll bring my wife. She loves naked girls ....

Sammy. Intransit, Zhuren

Billy will be in Beijing Nov 9 for 1 night - are you guys free?

Half price pizza and beer at The Den at around 8 to 8.30 - straight to Hollywood for a Russian desert - then to Maggies for late night supper?

Come on Intransit - you gotta come out of the closet sooner or later mate.

Sammy - tell Intransit he needs to re-connect with his debaucherous, depraved sinful past.

Ragnarok42

10-28-07, 06:18

Called the MP in Bldg419 of Wangjing for some home delivery and seemed to wake up the girl on duty. Told her to send #29 to my place and within about 30 min she was knocking at my door. Since she and I had already seen each other numerous times we didn't even bother with the whole body massage, she immediately stripped naked and started playing with my dick. Last time I saw her she told me she was still having her period and that she would sleep with me when it was over. She even told me that she had only had sex with one man, her ex-BF, before. Don't believe that for a second but then again who cares?

After a couple minutes of her giving me a nice handjob I sit up and start to suck her breasts. That seems to melt her and she starts to lean in real close and rubbing the inside of her thighs against my leg. She is really starting to moan and move, like she has not been touched in a long time. So I push her down and give her DATY for a bit. But she seems to want it real bad so I slip on the condom and go for broke. Her eyes became as big as saucers and god was she tight! Starting to believe her story now cause she is really into it. Orders me to bang her hard with her legs raised onto my shoulders and she comes so hard I was afraid she would break me. Came like this three times. Switched one or two positions before finally blowing my load all over her stomach and even hitting her face. Total GFE, haven't had so much fun in a long time since my regular freebie went home to Hunan.

She went for a quick shower and paid her a little extra for a lovely time. Total damage 300 (the going rate for FS in Wangjing) + cab fare. I still prefer this to going to Maggies or HRC and paying double for a stuck up brat. This way is much nicer - the girls come to you and man can they fuck. Nice reliable service with a smile, hard to find in China's capital.

P.S. like I said in a previous post, do not mention to any of the other girls or the MP that you know these girls will do FS. The girls seem to offer it only if they feel comfortable with you . While I have talked both #9 and #29 to do FS, #22 still will only do handjobs even though she strips naked and lets me masturbate her to orgasm. So keep it quiet and if you have met other cute girls from Bldg 419 do post a report. Good hunting...