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Csun213
09-23-06, 05:51
Where I come from "talk is cheap" -- money talks and bullshit walks. Without addresses, towns, locations, and cell numbers, 30RMB FS ST is just an old timers story. If 30RMB FS ST isn't from 15 years ago, then tell us all more... otherwise save it for the perverts at the old folks home.

-StrayCat (AKA ShakeSpear)

Just to let you know that I was with OAH and a few other guys in CP when they decided to do the 30rmb. Some of the guys like OAH did the dirty deed while others like myself wanted to play it safe and would rather bring girls back to our hotel room. The 30rmb girls can not leave their place and have to do them right there. This is just to tell you that the 30rmb girls does exist. OAH's reports are always right on. Do a search and you can see the quality and informations that he have posted on this forum. No one I know has ever doubt his word.

Straycat
09-23-06, 07:06
Straycat,

I don't want to get into a flame war with you. If you had read some of my posts on other threads, you would know where the 30RMB ST is at. The issue is that you have been so busy praising yourself, you have not taken the time to RTFF. Check the Dongguan thread for my reports on the catacombs in CP. Check the Guangzhou thread for my reports on the hutongs in DaShi, a suburb of GZ. This is all available today!

I can see that you have not been taught to respect people, especially your elders. I guess this "old-fashioned" concept has been forgotten in the modern world. It's a pity.

OAHGZ is old news -- the new breed of ISG member doesn't care about having sex with a girl who been banged by every westerner who has rolled through town -- they want "untouched by the outside world" fresh talent.

Please don't blame me for finding better deals with prettier girls -- i've been at this a long time, on several continents and in both hemispheres -- my dick has more wrinkles than a pitted prune and more miles than a commercial jet. I just keep myself in shape. It makes the sex better.

Please do the math -- 30rmb ST or 50rmb LT -- which is a better deal? -- for 30rmb you get an overused woman for 30 minutes. In Emei, for 50rmb LT it's with a beautiful girl who has never sucked on a western cock! -- all night long!! You and I both know it's a better deal.

Come to Emei and I'll let you decide -- Wo qing Ke -- Hao bu Hao?

Bob Churn
09-23-06, 16:28
Please do the math -- 30rmb ST or 50rmb LT -- which is a better deal? -- for 30rmb you get an overused woman for 30 minutes. In Emei, for 50rmb LT it's with a beautiful girl who has never sucked on a western cock! -- all night long!! You and I both know it's a better deal.

Come to Emei and I'll let you decide -- Wo qing Ke -- Hao bu Hao?

interested in Emei, where are the place exectly? Am in Chengdu now.

LittleGoomba
09-23-06, 19:35
People are going to start ostracizing you not because you're right but because you're starting to come off as a massive asshole.



Please don't blame me for finding better deals with prettier girls -- i've been at this a long time, on several continents and in both hemispheres -- my dick has more wrinkles than a pitted prune and more miles than a commercial jet. I just keep myself in shape. It makes the sex better.

Please do the math -- 30rmb ST or 50rmb LT -- which is a better deal? -- for 30rmb you get an overused woman for 30 minutes. In Emei, for 50rmb LT it's with a beautiful girl who has never sucked on a western cock! -- all night long!! You and I both know it's a better deal.

Come to Emei and I'll let you decide -- Wo qing Ke -- Hao bu Hao?

Csun213
09-23-06, 21:10
GZ is old news -- the new breed of ISG member doesn't care about having sex with a girl who been banged by every westerner who has rolled through town -- they want "untouched by the outside world" fresh talent.



Just for the record, the 30rmb girls at CP are both young (18-22) and pretty. The reason why they are so cheap is that they only do Chinese guys. Most of them will not do a foreigner. In fact a couple of guys got turned down by a few girls before finding the right girls. I think most of them have never even seen a forigner before because they would come out of their small room and look at all the foreigners however would run back to their room if you show any kind of interested in them.

Straycat
09-24-06, 12:53
People are going to start ostracizing you not because you're right but because you're starting to come off as a massive asshole.Because I only give information to this site and never take from it, what people think or do doesn't interest me. For the record though here's my final word on this subject: When I'm provoked or attacked first, like I was by OAH. I get defensive -- just like you would.

Apparently he's sensistive to the fact that he's fat. Why is that my fault?Instead of going on a healthy diet, he'd rather take the easy way out to make himself feel better and both attack me personally and pretend that he's the only expert in town on finding fresh talent.

FYI: Just for the record though, what people are doing is coming to me in droves for help with getting laid in Sichuan. Why? Because I'm uncovering places that the ISG "Experts" haven't ever found -- you should appreciate my charitable efforts much more than you do.

Straycat
09-24-06, 13:00
Just for the record, the 30rmb girls at CP are both young (18-22) and pretty. The reason why they are so cheap is that they only do Chinese guys. Most of them will not do a foreigner. In fact a couple of guys got turned down by a few girls before finding the right girls. I think most of them have never even seen a forigner before because they would come out of their small room and look at all the foreigners however would run back to their room if you show any kind of interested in them.Csun213,

Thanks for the clarification -- it sounds like you've also found a great ST place. with local (Tamen gei ni bendi ren de jia qian) prices. Congrats.

OldAsiaHand
09-24-06, 16:21
This is how it started and I quote,

"Should you go be advised: this place is a pretty undeveloped area. If I were a big fat hairy old foreigner whose belly is so big that they can't see their cock when they look down, then I would stick to the big and overpriced mainstream hotels for sex. But if you like "mixing it up" with the locals, then amybe this place is worth a look."

You were insinuating that mongers that are not young and fit cannot find local action outside of the big hotels. I was just expressing my disagreement with this statement and backing it up with facts based on my experience.

Finally, I find it disrespectful and out of line to ridicule people based on their age and physical appearance.

I never said that your contributions to this forum were not informative and valuable, in fact, I urged you to keep posting.

This is my final word on the subject.

OAH




Because I only give information to this site and never take from it, what people think or do doesn't interest me. For the record though here's my final word on this subject: When I'm provoked or attacked first, like I was by OAH. I get defensive -- just like you would.

Apparently he's sensistive to the fact that he's fat. Why is that my fault?Instead of going on a healthy diet, he'd rather take the easy way out to make himself feel better and both attack me personally and pretend that he's the only expert in town on finding fresh talent.

FYI: Just for the record though, what people are doing is coming to me in droves for help with getting laid in Sichuan. Why? Because I'm uncovering places that the ISG "Experts" haven't ever found -- you should appreciate my charitable efforts much more than you do.

Straycat
09-25-06, 10:18
These are the pussy markets. I heard at west north also have few markets. But too afraid to get there, and probably no members though.

Blacksun, wrote about the CD pussy markets where lao wai are "too afraid to get/go there" -- which i both went to and reported on - It is both dark, and undeveloped, very dangerous -- it had a bad feel -- like the chicken ranches in Cambodia, or the brothels in Tanzania, Albania or Bombay -- an easy place where a foreigner can get robbed or stabbed to death.

Go an see for yourself -- like I said in my report -- if i was a fat hairy old foreigner, then i would't take the risk (like Blacksun Suggested) -- better off going to GZ for a super size Mc Donalds #4 with a vanilla shake. If you do go, best of luck to you because, we may never hear from you again.

Lao Ma
09-25-06, 22:54
Straycat:

I know some of the posters here - you know, the guys who have lived in China for years and years, and are completely fluent in the language, and actually understand the national, regional, and local cultural nuances of China - they are saying get over yourself, stop writing like a frickin know-it-all. I say, give the lad (that's you) a break. He's obviously a stud, and he's been in the county less than 60 days. It sounds like he's got mandarin licked allready - and that's no small feat - I've been learning for years and I am not yet fluent. Yet he allready knows the back waters of Chengdu like an old pro, he's getting pedi-taxi's to set him up with shaved (!) girls on his first few nights - even after drinking 10 shots of tequila !!! And he's in great shape - just ask him !

So, obviously, you are cut from a different cloth than the other fine and noble characters here on the forum, including myself. My question is what can I do to honor your greatness - can I bring you some fine tequila from the states on my next visit ?

cripes.

BlackSun
09-26-06, 11:42
Ha ha ha!

Straycat, I did not offence you. I don't understand why you are being so protective.

I can speak fluent mandarin than most of you guys here.

Straycat
09-26-06, 16:53
Straycat:

I know some of the posters here - you know, the guys who have lived in China for years and years, and are completely fluent in the language, and actually understand the national, regional, and local cultural nuances of China - they are saying get over yourself, stop writing like a frickin know-it-all. I say, give the lad (that's you) a break. He's obviously a stud, and he's been in the county less than 60 days. It sounds like he's got mandarin licked allready - and that's no small feat - I've been learning for years and I am not yet fluent. Yet he allready knows the back waters of Chengdu like an old pro, he's getting pedi-taxi's to set him up with shaved (!) girls on his first few nights - even after drinking 10 shots of tequila !!! And he's in great shape - just ask him !

So, obviously, you are cut from a different cloth than the other fine and noble characters here on the forum, including myself. My question is what can I do to honor your greatness - can I bring you some fine tequila from the states on my next visit ?

cripes.What can you do?

Why not write something worth reading? -- isn't this the International Sex Guide -- and not the bored and dirty old farts club?

The difference between you and I is that i'm honest when I say to everyone here that beautiful young Asian girls only screw disgusting old "noble" foreigners because of their financial desparation. Some of the "Old Timers" here are living in an illusory world -- don't they have a mirror? If you were one of these girls would you seek out a fat old foreigner? If so, then why not share you daughter with these "fine and noble Lads?" (that's you) -- I don't think so! As a collective group we are are not "noble" like you think, but without morality or integrity -- we take advantage of them because of our financial privileges.

My only question for you is if you know posters who have been here for many, many, many, many, years, then how is it possible that they never cracked the most populous province in the entire country? Haven't they heard of Sichuan? -- you know, the one with +90 million people, the highest rural population density in China, and 655bln in year over year GDP producing over 10% of all the final goods and services for the entire country? It sounds like somebody failed to do their homework! I give you a D+ instead of failing you because i feel sorry for you. If this were a good USA university, then you'd be on academic probation my shallow old friend.

Should you be so bored that all you have time for is to go out of your way to write a worthless note to me, then i'm both flattered and wondering why not come to Chengdu and have the fun you're not getting wherever you currently are -- All the reports on the Chengdu thread before mine suggested that there weren't any hot girls to play with in this town-- we now know that's not the case -- did I hear a thank you? your welcome.

FYI: I only drink Herradora El Reposo blue agave tequila should you want to make a tribute.

Straycat
09-26-06, 16:58
Ha ha ha!

Straycat, I did not offence you. I don't understand why you are being so protective.

I can speak fluent mandarin than most of you guys here.Blacksun,

Please don't worry -- you didn't offence me. I'm sure your chinese is excellent. You are one of the few here who has acutally made a "real" contribution to the Chengdu thread --Letting us know about the pussy markets in the North sector.

Should you ever want to learn about addidtional places in Sichuan for somatic pleasures, then just let me know.

Best wishes,

StrayCat

Ticktock
09-27-06, 05:36
Has Straycat posted some very detailed and insightful reports about Chengdu? Indeed he has.

Does Straycat come off as a total asshole now during this affair? Of course.

Will he flame me for making this observation? Most likely.

But is it possible that the reason this will occur is because he feels the stakes are so high now in the public forum that he needs to win every point and the reason it has come to this point is because he feels indignation because he is underattack for trying to add value to the Chengdu thread?

Yes.

It's just a simple misunderstanding that leads to a pissing contest. Nothing new to the human race, and male species in particular.

Straycat makes a generic stereotypical statement about out of shape old guys which fits with his McDonalds analogy. OAH decides to inform him the stereotype is not valid, and backs up his point with personal experiences.

So what went wrong from here?

Could OAH's correction of Straycat been a bit more gentle and worded in a less "feather ruffling" manner. Probably.

Should Straycat have gone through many of the other forums or OAH's reports and figured out that OAH is an extremely knowledgeable and helpful ISG member, and frankly in the legend category for a reason? Yes.

I mean, in my mind, it could of gone like this:

OAH: I don't fit your stereotype but I mix it up with the locals quite well. Just read my reports.

Straycat: Ok, my stereotype is not valid. I am wrong on this point.

As we know it didn't.

I can understand why Straycat got so defensive. He was making good reports without demanding a thing. Quite noble. Then he feels underattack without justification. Anyone would get defensive, and he does. I sympathise. I would of felt the same probably, and almost did when I first posted in the SZ thread.

However as much as I do understand his motivations, Straycat still comes off as a total asshole. He went from a new contributor with great potential since he didn't ask silly questions and wrote up some nice shit, to coming off as an arrogant SOB who is never wrong on no matter no where no time.

Can everything go back to the way it was? Sure.

One or a few noble souls swallow some humble pie, and passions / emotions / slighted honor all will sluice off into the past. Non-fight club China forum is a good thing.

Dajiba
09-28-06, 10:35
I am in Chengdu now, willing to meet seniors to monger around. Straycat, would you like to meet with me and another American friend tonight? Please tell us where to go to meet you.

TJ

Superforce99
09-28-06, 15:24
Originally Posted by Csun213
Just for the record, the 30rmb girls at CP are both young (18-22) and pretty. The reason why they are so cheap is that they only do Chinese guys. Most of them will not do a foreigner. In fact a couple of guys got turned down by a few girls before finding the right girls. I think most of them have never even seen a forigner before because they would come out of their small room and look at all the foreigners however would run back to their room if you show any kind of interested in them.


Csun213,

Thanks for the clarification -- it sounds like you've also found a great ST place. with local (Tamen gei ni bendi ren de jia qian) prices. Congrats.

Csun,

Whoa...wait a minute, wait a minute. Were you wearing some major beer goggles
the day you went to the catacombs in CP? Ha...I can't imagine many people
describing the catacomb girls as young and pretty but they are damn cheap.
And that's about it. They are more young and strung-out looking than pretty
and young, I think. Like a young crack***** who's just getting to hardcore
junkie-ness; not exactly down and out yet, but there is already that subtle
"something" wrong with her appearance.

And you would be surprised how many foreigners these girls fuck. From talking
two of these gals (one I fucked for the hell of it and the other her jealous friend)
there are a lot of African guys that come to the catacombs. She said they usually
come in groups of 3-4 and they are regular customers, treat the girls well, and
don't cause problems. Imagine that! Ha ha...The Africans did get charged 30 RMB
per fuck too. They also said there were several white guys that came through
the area every week, and they all knew about the infamous Cronin, especially
how he would pay them from 100 RMB or more to bust the market, ha ha...

Anyway, from Straycat's reports, I bet the quality of his bargain-priced gals are
better than CP's catacombs, even if higher priced. Actually, I can't think of anything
worse or frightening than the catacombs for finding girls to fuck...perhaps a dark
alley where you can't see the hags at all and it's just a bend-over-fuck-her-bareback
setup...otherwise the catacombs are worth a look for curiosity's sake but I felt
disgustingly dirty for weeks I used my dick in one of those gals.


J

Csun213
09-28-06, 20:04
hi jonny, i did not think these girls that i saw were that bad looking. they were young and i did not think they did many foreigners when we were there about a year ago since they would come out to look at us and then run away. they would then peek from their room behind their door. i am just not sure i want to do a cheap girl with no running water in a small room regardless how the girls look. i bow my head to the two greatest guys, oah and cronin who being fearless took the chance. i agree that cronin did spoil the girls by giving them 100rmb instead of the 30rmb because i remember that one of the girls that oah liked wanted 100rmb now since cronin gave her 100rmb last time. it is a fun place to go and see all the girls.

OldAsiaHand
09-29-06, 07:55
Johnny,

We should probably move these posts to the Dongguan thread. However, I found almost all the girls in the catacombs doable. Mostly in the 6-7 range, with the odd 8 running around. You must have been there on a bad day. The major problem is that the accomodations reek. Having said that, the last girl I did there gave me quite the ride. She managed to get me off cowgirl for the third pop of the evening. Not bad for 30 RMB.

Just my POV.

OAH

Straycat
09-29-06, 08:07
Has Straycat posted some very detailed and insightful reports about Chengdu? Indeed he has.

Should Straycat have gone through many of the other forums or OAH's reports and figured out that OAH is an extremely knowledgeable and helpful ISG member, and frankly in the legend category for a reason? Yes.

I can understand why Straycat got so defensive. He was making good reports without demanding a thing. Quite noble. Then he feels underattack without justification. Anyone would get defensive, and he does. I sympathise. I would of felt the same probably, and almost did when I first posted in the SZ thread.

However as much as I do understand his motivations, Straycat still comes off as a total asshole. He went from a new contributor with great potential since he didn't ask silly questions and wrote up some nice shit, to coming off as an arrogant SOB who is never wrong on no matter no where no time.

Narsus out.Ok, Narsus, here's the Good: I honestly think you're a class act!

And now the not so good:

Yeah I'm a total asshole -- big deal! -- I admit my faults for all the world to see -- perhaps it's a function of being able to give myself the best birthday gift possible for a 39 year old -- retirement from self made success. Perhaps it's because the CD thread was previously devoid of valuable information --hard to say -- I suspect many other threads here are also full of crap.

Overall, I think your writeup is balanced and fair with one exception: describing OAH as a legend -- Ghengis Khan, Alexander The Great, Saladin, Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Karl Marx, John Q. Adams, Winston Churchill, Thomas Jefferson, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett -- these are legends my friend.

OAH and Csun213 are both far from legendary -- according to johhnykon666, (who I believe) they are BS artists and bad story tellers -- why would such "talents and legends" bullshit all of us about CP and the 30rmb beauties -- when they're just like I said -- overused, dirty, strungout, and probably disgusting.

Here's the truth Amigo: after the 50rmb LT girls in Emei and other far-removed places are all used up by the locals they "move downstream" to the big coastal cities. This is where they get skanky. It is the same all over the world -- in every country and continent. If you want purity and value, you won't find it in CP, SZ, Shanghai, Qingdao, or Beijing unless you pay out the ass for it -- this is the truth. Take it or leave it -- I could care less.

If you must know, I've been closely living and working with Chinese people since September 1992 -- everyday -- When it comes to the Chinese -- OAH can't teach me shit -- he and Csun213 should be taking notes.

What really bugs me here is how OAH get's pissed off because he hates the truth -- he's been getting "reamed" for years ("eating rotten meat"), which I merely point out for the world to see -- he is either overpaying for fresh talent, or screwing some "spent girl" who has been previously banged by a shitload of people, including me. So what does he do? Instead of doing his homework and getting a better deal, he attacks me and tries to bullshit all the ISG members with "false stories".

All I've tried to do here is help people "move upstream" and "drink from cleaner water" -- and what have I received in return? Ridicule, and false stories from senior BS artists. It's a sorry day for ISG indeed. When the leadership can't be trusted, anarchy is bound to follow.

At this point, I may not return to this site -- It isn't what I thought it was -- I thought it was a forum to further the cause of international sex, but in reality it seems like the China forum is a site where blind and lactating old geezers talk about pipe dreams.

At this point I'm bored. I want to talk about fucking hot girls -- you know the Virgins, the threesomes, the BBBJ's, and in my opinion most beautiful girls in all of China -- Sichuan girls!

Fade to Black.

Straycat
09-29-06, 08:35
We should probably move these posts to the Dongguan thread. However, I found almost all the girls in the catacombs doable. Mostly in the 6-7 range, with the odd 8 running around. You must have been there on a bad day. The major problem is that the accomodations reek.

OAHBefore you go back to DG -- it's like I said: So far, i can tell you 50rmb LT in Emei is where to go when on the cheap. I don't think JK666 was there on a bad day, but you were wasted or forgot your glasses when you went.

FYI: I'm surprised, and if I were you disappointed that in your time here you have only been able to scratch just below the surface -- resorting to false stories to save yourself from indignation. Quite a legend indeed.

Why not go there tonight and grab some pics of your "30kuai beauties" and post them for all to see.

Show us your mighty power Huangdi OAH!

I'll will try to do a much better job, providing more accurate and less reckless information going forward.

StrayCat

Straycat
09-29-06, 09:34
Csun,

Whoa...wait a minute, wait a minute. Were you wearing some major beer goggles
the day you went to the catacombs in CP? Ha...I can't imagine many people
describing the catacomb girls as young and pretty but they are damn cheap.
And that's about it. They are more young and strung-out looking than pretty
and young, I think. Like a young crack***** who's just getting to hardcore
junkie-ness; not exactly down and out yet, but there is already that subtle
"something" wrong with her appearance.

And you would be surprised how many foreigners these girls fuck. From talking
two of these gals (one I fucked for the hell of it and the other her jealous friend)
there are a lot of African guys that come to the catacombs. She said they usually
come in groups of 3-4 and they are regular customers, treat the girls well, and
don't cause problems. Imagine that! Ha ha...The Africans did get charged 30 RMB
per fuck too. They also said there were several white guys that came through
the area every week, and they all knew about the infamous Cronin, especially
how he would pay them from 100 RMB or more to bust the market, ha ha...

Anyway, from Straycat's reports, I bet the quality of his bargain-priced gals are
better than CP's catacombs, even if higher priced. Actually, I can't think of anything
worse or frightening than the catacombs for finding girls to fuck...perhaps a dark
alley where you can't see the hags at all and it's just a bend-over-fuck-her-bareback
setup...otherwise the catacombs are worth a look for curiosity's sake but I felt
disgustingly dirty for weeks I used my dick in one of those gals.

JJ,

You're a class act my mongering friend!

Anybody who has the balls and integrity to say what they think, despite the potential hassle(s) that may result from it is "Aces" in my book.

I raise my glass and toast both your courage, honesty, and big hairy balls.

Please let me know if you are ever in Western China -- I personally want to make sure you have a memorable time -- I want to buy you your first Sichuan ***** while you are in my little depraved part of the world.

StrayCat

HornyAsianDawg
09-29-06, 19:18
OK, after reading this thread, and having to scroll to the 4th and 5th pages for good information, I realized that we have gone off topic and it's now time to get back on topic, for which this thread is Mongering in Chengdu.

Narsus, I loved your post, it was to the point, and neutral.

Straycat, great reports, but I truly doubt I could ever hang out with you and have a good time.

OAH, you will always be a legend here and I look forward to mongering with you and RasSpewtin when I get back to Guangdong and Hong Kong.

Back on topic.

Some of the regular members already know why I am here in Sichuan. Which is to attend a family trip on the Aba Tibeten Plataeu and subject myself to altitude sickness. Not going to tell you about the tourist spots but more about the mongering. My travel guide was also a fellow mongerer so we hit it off and tried exploring some of the places. Since discretion is a must, (cannot bring a girl back to the hotel room nor leave for extended periods of time) I have to say I have not been mongering at my best. But all in all I had a good time.

Chengdu. I got here a week ago before I had to head north. Stayed at a crummy 4 star hotel and I needed a release. Since I had to practice discretion, I had to pay for it. 800 RMB at the suana in the hotel. The girl was super hot, an 8 even a 9. Why was it so memorable. She was young, hot and she managed to make me cum twice in a period of 30 minutes without vitamin V. She worked hard and she was worth every RMB. She told me if I went to her directly it would be 500 RMB. But like Straycat, i rarely go back.

No Action in Jiuzhaigou. I was really looking forward to banging some Tibeten chick. The hotels have a 800 RMB action but I didn't want to check it out. Massage parlors have no action at all. This place is a dump. Enough said.

No Action in MaoXiang. My tour guide know of 300 RMB action at our hotel, but the Gong An decided to do a sweep the day I went, so no action there either. Was really looking forward to some local tasties.

Mt Emei. Action, Damage = 400 RMB. Considering I had to be descrete and spend too much time away from the group, I had to pay more to maintain my cover. I got really lucky with this chick. She was a student studying commerce at the school in Mt Emei and she was just chilling at the hotel with her friend who was a foot massager. She was at the wrong place at the wrong time when the mommy called out all the girls, (there were 7) and I picked her. For whatever reason she didn't say no, but her shy and innocent demeanure suggested she was definately not a pro. She was 18, really cute, we had a nice long chat. To make a long story short, she was the best non-pro I had to pay for, and she offered a Chinese GFE experience. (no kissing, but she was soaked.)

Chengdu again. A week after my excersion up the mountain, Came back down. Decided to hunt for food. Went to all the places StrayCat suggested. And almost all the hair dressers were closed behind the train station. The triangle by the park was also closed. Finally found what the taxi driver suggested as the "farm" which was also close to the Renmin Park by the triangle. Found some massage parlor there. Bagged myself a nice 19 year old for RMB180 at the place. Rooms where alright, but I have seen better, and I got the job done.

All in all, I think China's PSB is cracking down on mongering activities so the vast number of shops are closed. National day is coming up, so choices are limited. Be careful out there.

HAD

OldAsiaHand
09-30-06, 08:18
Because I only give information to this site and never take from it, what people think or do doesn't interest me. For the record though here's my final word on this subject: When I'm provoked or attacked first, like I was by OAH. I get defensive -- just like you would.


Straycat,

I thought you had already given us your "final word" on the subject.

You can find photo samples of catacomb quality from Cronin's posts:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=422322&highlight=Catacombs#post422322

OAH

Straycat
10-01-06, 11:42
Straycat,

I thought you had already given us your "final word" on the subject.

You can find photo samples of catacomb quality from Cronin's posts:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=422322&highlight=Catacombs#post422322

OAHWOW! -- really horrifying -- Don't know what's worse -- the girl or the place! Honestly, I've been in worse places, but never banged a girl that ugly.

It's just like JK666 said, less 3-4 African customers. Now I know for sure I'm not missing out.

FYI: In Chendgu/Sichuan she's a 3. without the kids.

Best Wishes,

StrayCat

WooVictor
10-03-06, 09:11
I was in Chengdu for two nights just before the National Day holiday. On the first night, I went to explore the Daxiya Dancing Hall which has been widely discussed in some Chinese websites. Apparently it is famous for something called "sand-dancing". I don't know where this term came from or what it means.

Daxiya is located at section one of the First West Ringroad in northwest Chengdu. It is apparently very famous and all cab drivers know this place. At the entrance I was told to buy a 10 yuan ticket, and was then led to the third floor where there was a bar with a stage where a guy was singing and playing his guitar. The place was not very busy, and the customers (both men and women) seemed to be genuine patrons rather than professional working girls. This was not what I expected, and I asked a waitress if I could go down to the second floor, which seemed to me to be more lively when I walked up. The waitress asked a manager, and he told her to escort me downstairs. I walked into the dance hall on the second floor, and saw on my right many tables and chairs in a brightly lit environment. It seemed fairly busy and the place was about half full.

But as I walked further down the short corridor at the entrance I found on my left a huge dance floor, very dimly lit. It was completely packed, with at least a few hundred people. The amazing thing was that all the girls were standing right by the dance floor and facing inside. A lot of men were wandering around, looking at them. When a man saw a girl he liked, he simply pulled her into the dance floor. There were probably 100 people dancing to the tune of some romantic music. Even though the dance floor was very dark I could see that all the couples who were dancing were holding each other tight.

I took my time and walked around the dance floor several times. Most of the girls were quite young, probably in their 20s, though some were older at 30s or even 40s, I suspect. They came in all shapes and sizes, and most were dressed to kill, revealing a large part of their breasts or thighs.
But they just stood there passively, and did not actively attempt to make eye contacts. I could see that when a more aggressive man wanted to take a good look at a girl, he would get very close with his face no more than one foot away from that of the girl. I couldn’t do that sort of thing, and so had to settle with a slow walk around the dance hall. While on my second round, suddenly the music changed to a faster tempo and the lights went on, obviously this was an opportunity for the men to take a better look at the girls. I didn’t find anyone that I fancied, and then in about a minute the music changed again and the lights dimmed.

I continued with my walk and as I started my third round I saw a girl that I fancied. I thought I would wait for the music to stop and asked her to dance with me just as a new song began, but then some guy just snatched her away. I moved on and before too long found another that I liked. Before I could make a move she turned and walked into the crowd surrounding the dance hall. I ran after her but soon lost her. Undeterred, I moved on and eventually found another young girl with a slim but strong body. I approached, took her hand and brought her into the dance floor. We made our way through the pack into the middle of the dance floor, which was very dark indeed. We danced very close together, and she had no hesitation in grinding her pelvis against mine, calling my little brother to attention. I held her in a tight bear hug, and moved my hands all over her back. At one point I got my hand inside her jeans and panties, and slid my finger down her crack. If her jeans were not so tight, I might have been able to go all the way to her backdoor. She then stopped me and told me to get my hand out, though she wasn’t annoyed. I also tried to explore her breasts, but her bra was very thick and hard and I had no luck.

She was a pretty girl of 22 years old. However, her putonghua was not very good and she spoke the Sichuan dialect most of the time. Communication was therefore not that easy and I think I understood perhaps 60% of what she said. (I'm a Hong Kong Chinese and my putonghua is regarded as excellent by most, including my colleagues in Beijing). She told me that she had a job during the day and came here almost every night. All the girls had to pay a 10yuan entrance fee, but they get to keep all the money they make by dancing with the men for 5 yuan a song. I asked her if she would go with me to my hotel, and she said that the girls were not allowed to leave before the place closed down at 1:30 in the morning. I doubt very much if this was true. She also would not give me her phone number, saying I would find her there if I came again the following night. I suspect she hasn’t turned professional, and was happy with a hundred yuan a night doing not much other than dancing and let herself be felt up by some disgusting men.

From what I could see, nothing outrageous happened on the dance floor. And when I left I also did not see any man leaving with a girl.

Apparently there are several such sand-dance places in Chengdu. According to one Chinese website, the most outrageous place was the Honghong (Rainbow Rainbow) on Xihuamen (West China Gate) Road. After leaving Daxiya I took a cab and headed for this place, but somehow couldn’t find it. The cab driver took me to a quiet section of Xihuamen Road (a few blocks away from the Sheraton), and told me that it was closed. However, I couldn’t see any signs of the Honghong Dance Hall.

Reports from the website suggest that the Hongkong girls would jerk you off in the very dark dance hall for an additional 30 yuan. Unfortunately I didn’t have time to go there on my second night in Chengdu. If any brother has been lucky or brave enough to explore that place, please report back.

BJ Boy
10-03-06, 21:22
Yes Victor they have the same setup in nearby Mian Yang with the same pricing (5 rmb per song). And as you say, I never saw any girl leave with any guy so it seems like this is a more "harmless" form of entertainment that seems exclusive to Sichuan. And I was also refused a phone number to my surprise (I hardly ever get refused in China in pretty much any situation). But I didn't mind because I wasn't even asking, she just misunderstood my poor Chinese.

Santa
10-03-06, 23:29
I have been to a similar dance place in Xian. It was fun, but I didn't see any real hotties. Maybe the girls are told not to give out phone numbers, this way the guy must keep coming back if he likes a girl.

OAH. Thanks for Cronin's photos. I also didn't think she was pretty, but not ugly either, just mama huhu. We each have our own preferences. Cronin liked her, so maybe the service and attitude was just right.

I have learned not to be critical of another guys choice. If another guy likes a girl then that is all that counts. I think nobody in the photo gallery is as good as Cronin with a camera, and he has posted lots of great looking girls.

Straycat, thank you for your interesting and informative posts, they are appreciated.

Now let's all be good mongers and try to keep it friendly and polite. This is not the Philippines Board. Back to regular programming.

The ugly one said,
"I may be wrinkled and funny
But take me to bed
With a bag on my head
And I'll give you a run for your money". :D

Cebu Local
10-04-06, 00:07
I have been to a similar dance place in Xian. It was fun, but I didn't see any real hotties. Maybe the girls are told not to give out phone numbers, this way the guy must keep come back if he likes a girl.

OAH Thanks for Cronin's photos. I also didn't think she was pretty, but not ugly either, just mama huhu. We each have our own preferences. Cronin liked her, so maybe the service and attitude was just right.

I have learned not to be critical of another guys choice. If another guy likes a certain girl then that is all that counts. I think nobody in the photo gallery is as good as Cronin with a camera, and he has posted lots of great looking girls.

Straycat, thank you for your interesting and informative posts, they are appreciated.

Now let's all be good mongers shall we and try to keep it friendly and polite? This not the Philippine's Board. Back to regular programming.

The ugly one said,
"I may be wrinkled and funny
But take me to bed
With a bag on my head
And I'll give you a run for your money". :DSanta
Lets not fight after all We dont want a Fight Club do we????Unless you want Holton Cowboy,Domino,Dashing Don,Guinness and the other Fight Club regulars to join the brawl.Regarding looks and taste dont forget Different Strokes for Different folks or Tongchuang Yimeng.Cheers

Tors Ham
10-04-06, 18:38
This is my first report on this forum, or maybe I should call it information.

First I like to thanks the members for many good and useful reports.

I have been in Chengdu 3-4 month and its looks like I will be moving to Chengdu for longer period of time from January next year.

No time to mongering in this period except for some tiny adventures not worth to mention, the places are already mentioned in this forum.

My source of information is a Chinese monger that I know.

Unfortunately it is always a lot of others around when I pick up the map, but next week we will meet for a lunch only 2 of us

Almost all places mentioned here is well known to my friend but when he has pointed out directions it is like. That park is nice; ). Huh. (. Xinhua park) and it have not been easy to find exactly where the action is.

But after reading this forum I know, and I know he knows where to go to get some. Besides the village in the south (he called it playboy city) there is another one (smaller) in the west, I will come back for exact location of that one and other places he told me about.

I have spent some time (not mongering, can't shit were I eat) in a small town north of Chengdu called Qing Bai Jiang (30-40 min by bus)

This is what I have (mostly daytime) seen if somebody wants to explore new ground. I have never seen any other foreigners here.

Entering from the west in the main road thru the town there is a hotel with a water mill in a V shaped crossroad, 1-200m up the road there is a hole in the wall like place where I have seen 10-15 girls lined up there.

Probably a depot for the hotel, anyway some looked hot (I just passed by)

Further down the main road (3-4 crossroads away from the hotel) I stumbled cross an interesting part of town.

There is a small shopping centre (look for 2 towers)

The 3-4 streets between the main road and the shopping centre in direction back to the hotel I mentioned are packet with bars, ktv, clubs and so on, and I suspect that it would be almost impossible to NOT get some after a night in that area.

There is another hotel in the middle of the town close a park.

Entering straight out from that hotel there is a building and entering from the backside (go left) there is a you shaped bar area.

The front have a bar in the left corner where I have seen 2 of the hottest ones I have seen sins arriving to Chengdu and they didn't looked like office girls. Huuh. On the other side of the corner bar there is 3 bars that I have been told offer some type of service. Hmmmm what can it be? . :)

If you walk to the right and then take right again when you walk out from the hotel there is 2-3 bars 2 massage, business club and what the Chinese call water bars. (Water bars offers some type of service have I been told. What service are they talking about? . : rolleyes:

There is 3-5 ktv, massage parlours, business clubs along the main road. One (left side before the bus station) massage that I have visit, has a hot looking Yunnan girl, but just an ordinary massage (big room with friends there, impossible to check if other things is available)

Maybe I am wrong, but I get the feeling that girls from other provinces working in massage places. Hmmmm. Don't they have massage in Yunnan?

There are bars, water bars and ktv little bit here and there but these are the main spots.

It's easy to get around, Pedi cabs everywhere and it is a 30 min walk between the hotels, get the feeling of the size of the town.

I have seen some hot girls with tattoos above the bum (haven't seen that in China before probably some office girls. Hmm: rolleyes: and one day when I was at the hair dresser 2 hot ones was doing theirs there and when they was finish I almost get a strip show from them. Huuuhh. (to myself. Learn Chinese stupid fucker) Well that was that, I write because I think that this place have little bit more of entertainment places than normal for a small town like this and I would be glad if someone would check it out by night (I can't) if it is any good maybe I can blend in among the other foreigners: D in the future.

Please don't kill me if it is an dead end I send someone to. But I don't think so.

Make peace not war.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Kunshan
10-08-06, 06:32
There is 3-5 ktv, massage parlours, business clubs along the main road. One (left side before the bus station) massage that I have visit, has a hot looking Yunnan girl, but just an ordinary massage (big room with friends there, impossible to check if other things is available)

Maybe I am wrong, but I get the feeling that girls from other provinces working in massage places. Hmmmm. Don't they have massage in Yunnan?


It is very normal to find that the girls who work in the local sex industry are from other parts of China,,,this is so their family won't find out what they are doing for a $. It is very rare to find a girl from the same city/area.

If the girl is from an other part of China (in this case Yunnan) then there is a 99% chance that you can get "other things".

Evil Kote
10-14-06, 08:27
Hey all,

I'll be in Chengdu from the 26th onward and from there move on to Beijing. Could you guys help me out on where to find action, do's and dont's. At this moment I have no clue where I'll be staying but would appreciate some heads up.

Thanx all

Bob Builder
10-16-06, 07:43
Did the mountain bike come up against a Taix cab and the taxi cab won? LOL!

You missed the point completely and the reason there is more mongering in Southern China is that is where most work and live. Sure they are going to sell up everything and quit their jobs to move to Cheng Du to save a few RMB
on a shag.

I have been offered to be taken to places where the gals are fresh and untouched for RMB50 LT but fecked if I am going to waste 8 hours getting there and back to save a few buck on a shag.

But as others say keep reporting, the stories are quite entertaining but as useful as a Penthouse forum. I for one have not been able to feel a gal's heartbeat with the end of my dick... but then again I must be fecking too many dead fish.

Tors Ham
10-16-06, 08:58
A forum like this for me and for many others is a way to find action fast and easy.
Not many have the time and lust to hunt around for ours to find some xxx
You arrive to a new city and spend a few days there doing business in daytime and in the evening xxx.

Business in China is everywhere, and people end up in different places and need help with finding xxx

Hats off for the ones that spend time and searching for different places, sleazy, high-class, cheap expensive no matter what; everybody can find what they like with the help of a forum like this.

And from personal point of view, if I don’t like what I read, I read something else no need to jump on the writer. It won't make my life better.

Tors Ham
10-16-06, 11:14
Hey all,

I'll be in Chengdu from the 26th onward and from there move on to Beijing. Could you guys help me out on where to find action, do's and dont's. At this moment I have no clue where I'll be staying but would appreciate some heads up.

Thanx allI guess you don’t talk Chinese (like me)

Do´s and don’ts

Well I don’t know I just try to be me, nobody understand anything anyway hehehe

Prime hotel is Ok 350 rmb night, good sauna with xxx service.

Ask for number 88 and you will get a hell of a bbbj (one of the best I ever had) and take the VIP room with the red rope heheh. (Damage 6-800 rmb)

In the evening you have a lot of service offer outside the hotel.

Tell them to send the girl to the room and it have to be a good one, then when the fist one arrives you refuse and they will start to send the hot ones (damage 3-500rmb)

I always refuse the first one in saunas, massage and this type of service.

They have better ones waiting and there is a lot to choose from.

And there are awesome good looking girls in business here and 7 out of 10 is a hit in bed hehehe

I am (most of the time) a lazy one so this is the options I go for.

If you like walking around.

I have been to Xindu park ones (look in the forum for more info about that one) but I find it difficult to find hot girls here and (like me) if you are alone it can be difficult to go out from some massage places ones you have gone in.

They usually try to take you to the room before the send the girl and if you don’t like what they offer it can be uncomfortable to go , but mostly is OK and if you want to search there are really hot girls here to (I have seen on the streets walking..uhu) but not in the places I have been shown .

They will also drag you here and there in different back alleys to check girls (damage 150 -300 rmb)

Probably super fun places to walk around if you talk Chinese I only check the places where the straight offer F jobs.

Otherwise you can go to the south end of the big walking street close Prime hotel, grab a Pedi cab and he will likely show you around to find xxx, (take the one that show you the F signal and nod, then give sign that you only look no need to understand chinese)

A good way in the evening is to have a map and look lost that seems to be the signal for I need an F session.

That works almost everywhere in asia. heheh

Damage 150-400 rmb + the driver’s fee and you will get a sightseeing tour around that red light side of Chengdu.

The bar scene I will try to check out in the end of the week and report if I find something of interests.

Hope you get something that can help you out from this, others have probably more info.

Tomcat2
10-17-06, 03:12
Straycat, I know a place which offers nice blow jobs for 50RMB,. You can shoot your load in her mouth, and she will swallow for another 50. Well, if you are interested in this, I can give you the address. All I asked is an address back. The address for IMG 0524. Have fun.

GeorgeAmerica
10-17-06, 03:24
Not all of the girls in Chengdu qualify as fresh. Stopped by a BBS near Yulin XI Lu and had a pick of 3 girls, my choice was the only 1 that could have been considered fresh. The other 2 were, well, more than slightly used.

As for Chengdu itself, I agree it is a great place, but to say the weather is fantastic year round is pushing it. You have not lived through the rainy, damp, and cold winters of Chengdu. Come December and January, please talk to me about the 'fantastic' weather of Chengdu. I think your opinion will have changed.

Please keep reporting, the information is useful.

LittleGoomba
10-17-06, 10:47
As I needed to remind myself, don't feed this Troll guys. Guy's not even worth one tap of your keyboard.



Remember, when I [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the water, 3 days later it's in your coffee cup -- Hahaha!

Travelers25
10-17-06, 18:11
Just got back from an interesting episode and thought I'd share a cautionary tale with you all starring me.

In Chengdu for a few days for the first time and thought I'd give the scene a whirl. The Sichuan women definitely are as good looking as friends had mentioned, so I thought I couldn't go wrong, especially after reading through some reports here.

I went out for dinner, then after wandering for awhile without seeing anything appropriate, made the mistake of asking a pedicab to take me to a sauna/massage place.

He took me to a 3-star local hotel in the area, near the Tian Qiao called Xin Hua, where another fellow was waiting outside to take me in. My first suspicion would be that the driver would take a cut -- he didn't though. The other guy took me up to the hotel and we talked prices. 100 RMB for one shot, 200 RMB for all-you-can-eat for 2 hrs. Sounded too good to be true, but I was still thinking of lowball prices from some of the reports, and it was a local place, so why not.

The upshot of it was that we went up to the 6th fl and I waited in a nice room, with shower, round bed, and separate waiting room, while he went and got girls. On the second round, I picked a cute, tall Tibetan girl with western features.

It was an uninspiring 15 minutes after which I fired the first shot across the bow. To my surprise, she started dressing. I half-expected her to do this and for me to have to do the "he-said-she-said" thing, but she next said that she would go get the greeter guy.

I had a sinking feeling when the door opened and two rough looking guys came in. Of course they asked what the problem was, and as I was explaining, knowing I was about to get shaken down, a third guy entered. They told me to get dressed, and as I did in the other room, they migrated into the inner room. We got into an argument and I made a bad mistake -- tried storming past the guy in the doorway. Next 30 secs were a lot of fists, and now I had 4 guys in the room, two of them holding me.

Not good for the home team. Basically, they said that the price wasn't right, the guy was new, didn't know what he was talking about, etc. etc. They started telling me to empty my pockets. The good was that I did not bring my wallet and only brought 600+ RMB on me. The bad was that I also had a $900 Tag Heurer and a $500 PDA phone.

They started in on the good cop, bad cop bit, and we spent the next solid hour going back and forth. They asked a lot of questions to figure out if I had money (I played at being a student on holidays). Fortunately, I was staying at a local hotel and the room key showed that. Initially, they were claiming that the total cost was 2000 RMB. I virtually kissed my phone and watch goodbye. I was sure that we would next be taking a trip to my hotel room where things would get really ugly. Eventually, I kept acting as if I couldn't believe they wouldn't honor the 200 RMB quote and eventually they said that they would waive everything but the fee for the girl at 500 RMB. I was counting myself lucky at this point, if that was really all it would take, but I still kept guilting them a bit, claiming that they were taking advantage of me, why would they do this to another Chinese, etc.

When I went to leave, one of the guys felt bad enough that he gave me back a 100. Another guy walked me out and genuinely seemed sorry that this had happened. He actually warned me against trusting cabbies, etc. Pretty funny, ironically.

So, to wrap up, here's what NOT to do (or at least what I won't do again -- your mileage may vary):

- Get tips from anyone I don't know
- Walk in with anyone who doesn't represent management
- Double and triple-check in detail the price arrangements
- Accept without suspicion a price that seems way too good to be true
- Carry any identification, wallet, excess cash, watch, cell phone (just my choice)
- Try to get frisky with 4 guys in a room

Before you ask, I did get the address and hotel with the intent of going to the police, but although you guys will say this is the wrong thing to do, frankly, I'm not going to report it based on it being a lesson for only 400 RMB and a split lip. I think what the real scam was that the price was misrepresented, but wonder how much worse it would have been if I had any real cash or indication or wealth on me, or perhaps didn't speak the language.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Tomcat2
10-18-06, 02:18
Well, I hardly believe this story, but never say never. Maybe this guy just had bad of the worst. Most Chinese will not mess with foreigners, because the government seriously takes this kind of things. I personally know a case which one guy paid his life for armed robbery. Next time, call the cops for helping.

Just got back from an interesting episode and thought I'd share a cautionary tale with you all starring me.

In Chengdu for a few days for the first time and thought I'd give the scene a whirl. The Sichuan women definitely are as good looking as friends had mentioned, so I thought I couldn't go wrong, especially after reading through some reports here.

I went out for dinner, then after wandering for awhile without seeing anything appropriate, made the mistake of asking a pedicab to take me to a sauna/massage place.

He took me to a 3-star local hotel in the area, near the Tian Qiao called Xin Hua, where another fellow was waiting outside to take me in. My first suspicion would be that the driver would take a cut -- he didn't though. The other guy took me up to the hotel and we talked prices. 100 RMB for one shot, 200 RMB for all-you-can-eat for 2 hrs. Sounded too good to be true, but I was still thinking of lowball prices from some of the reports, and it was a local place, so why not.

The upshot of it was that we went up to the 6th fl and I waited in a nice room, with shower, round bed, and separate waiting room, while he went and got girls. On the second round, I picked a cute, tall Tibetan girl with western features.

It was an uninspiring 15 minutes after which I fired the first shot across the bow. To my surprise, she started dressing. I half-expected her to do this and for me to have to do the "he-said-she-said" thing, but she next said that she would go get the greeter guy.

I had a sinking feeling when the door opened and two rough looking guys came in. Of course they asked what the problem was, and as I was explaining, knowing I was about to get shaken down, a third guy entered. They told me to get dressed, and as I did in the other room, they migrated into the inner room. We got into an argument and I made a bad mistake -- tried storming past the guy in the doorway. Next 30 secs were a lot of fists, and now I had 4 guys in the room, two of them holding me.

Not good for the home team. Basically, they said that the price wasn't right, the guy was new, didn't know what he was talking about, etc. etc. They started telling me to empty my pockets. The good was that I did not bring my wallet and only brought 600+ RMB on me. The bad was that I also had a $900 Tag Heurer and a $500 PDA phone.

They started in on the good cop, bad cop bit, and we spent the next solid hour going back and forth. They asked a lot of questions to figure out if I had money (I played at being a student on holidays). Fortunately, I was staying at a local hotel and the room key showed that. Initially, they were claiming that the total cost was 2000 RMB. I virtually kissed my phone and watch goodbye. I was sure that we would next be taking a trip to my hotel room where things would get really ugly. Eventually, I kept acting as if I couldn't believe they wouldn't honor the 200 RMB quote and eventually they said that they would waive everything but the fee for the girl at 500 RMB. I was counting myself lucky at this point, if that was really all it would take, but I still kept guilting them a bit, claiming that they were taking advantage of me, why would they do this to another Chinese, etc.

When I went to leave, one of the guys felt bad enough that he gave me back a 100. Another guy walked me out and genuinely seemed sorry that this had happened. He actually warned me against trusting cabbies, etc. Pretty funny, ironically.

So, to wrap up, here's what NOT to do (or at least what I won't do again -- your mileage may vary):

- Get tips from anyone I don't know
- Walk in with anyone who doesn't represent management
- Double and triple-check in detail the price arrangements
- Accept without suspicion a price that seems way too good to be true
- Carry any identification, wallet, excess cash, watch, cell phone (just my choice)
- Try to get frisky with 4 guys in a room

Before you ask, I did get the address and hotel with the intent of going to the police, but although you guys will say this is the wrong thing to do, frankly, I'm not going to report it based on it being a lesson for only 400 RMB and a split lip. I think what the real scam was that the price was misrepresented, but wonder how much worse it would have been if I had any real cash or indication or wealth on me, or perhaps didn't speak the language.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Csun213
10-18-06, 04:36
Well, I hardly believe this story, but never say never. Maybe this guy just had bad of the worst. Most Chinese will not mess with foreigners, because the government seriously takes this kind of things. I personally know a case which one guy paid his life for armed robbery. Next time, call the cops for helping.

The punishment is double for mess with a foreign vs a local but that usually does not stop them since they know that foreigners have the money and usually have a language problem therefore rarely report the crime.

Straycat
10-18-06, 13:56
Not all of the girls in Chengdu qualify as fresh. Stopped by a BBS near Yulin XI Lu and had a pick of 3 girls, my choice was the only 1 that could have been considered fresh. The other 2 were, well, more than slightly used.

As for Chengdu itself, I agree it is a great place, but to say the weather is fantastic year round is pushing it. You have not lived through the rainy, damp, and cold winters of Chengdu. Come December and January, please talk to me about the 'fantastic' weather of Chengdu. I think your opinion will have changed.

Please keep reporting, the information is useful.Hi George,

There are definitely some "older models" on the road here in Chengdu just like every big city in the world, but if you ever want to test drive a shiny new red sports car, just let me know and I can through you a bone. Because they can be found everywhere, there's no reason to settle for less.

Regarding the Winters here in Chengdu, you're are right that it's cold and wet, but thankfully there are no Siberian Winters blowing down from the Arctic like the top half of China. It definitley doesn't compare with Hawaii, but few places do in China at 30 degrees north latitude. Even my hometown of Southern California has crappy weather in January with ice on the ground in the early mornings. In terms of China, some think the best year-round weather is Kunming, but the sun is very intense -- and not many hotties.

I typically prefer both lighter-skinned Chinese women and lots of choices when making a selection, unless I'm in one of my "brownie" binges. Even then though, Chengdu offers me a very nice selection to choose from.

Straycat
10-18-06, 14:05
Straycat, I know a place which offers nice blow jobs for 50RMB,. You can shoot your load in her mouth, and she will swallow for another 50. Well, if you are interested in this, I can give you the address. All I asked is an address back. The address for IMG 0524. Have fun.TC2, thanks for the offer, you're a class act in my book.

I'm pretty well set for now though regarding BJ's Unless you really recommend the place or girls, but I would be glad to give you information on Chengdu anytime -- just let me know what you're looking for.

Best Wishes,

Straycat

Tomcat2
10-19-06, 04:10
Straycat, where did you find this hottie, IMG0524? Give me the street name, and I will find her. PM me . Have fun.

Nirvash
10-19-06, 05:35
Sup fellas how are you doing? After carefully reading the posts and seeing how Straycat was describing it i decided to give Chengdu a try and I was wondering if anyone had tips/infos for me since i barely speak chinese. I'm thinking of dropping by for a full week or 3 depending on price that is. Sorry to hear how it turned out for you Travelers25. Thats why when im out on I only carry the bare minimum. You dont need anyone going through your pockets and bam theres goes your cellphone!

Tomcat2
10-19-06, 06:34
Nirvash, just go back and read, you will find some very good tips. Me and other guys gave some street names where you can get decent actions. Don't pay more than 120 Yuan for a pop or 50 for a HJ in the BBS.
Sup fellas how are you doing? After carefully reading the posts and seeing how Straycat was describing it i decided to give Chengdu a try and I was wondering if anyone had tips/infos for me since i barely speak chinese. I'm thinking of dropping by for a full week or 3 depending on price that is. Sorry to hear how it turned out for you Travelers25. Thats why when im out on I only carry the bare minimum. You dont need anyone going through your pockets and bam theres goes your cellphone!

Zorro32
10-20-06, 06:40
Hi Straycat,

I've following your postings closely.

You are great!

Do you know where I can find a virign to deflower in Chengdu or anywhere in China?

I've not done one before and want to try.

Thank you

Zorro


TC2, thanks for the offer, you're a class act in my book.

I'm pretty well set for now though regarding BJ's Unless you really recommend the place or girls, but I would be glad to give you information on Chengdu anytime -- just let me know what you're looking for.

Best Wishes,

Straycat

Straycat
10-20-06, 07:25
Straycat, where did you find this hottie, IMG0524? Give me the street name, and I will find her. PM me . Have fun.TC2,

You have a sharp eye! That one is very special -- just so sexual and uninhibited -- it's like she went to school to learn how to please a man. At only 19 years old, she has learned her craft very well -- I'm sure you will never forget a night with her...

Actually, I have pics and locations of girls more beautiful than she, but with all the hassles I've been given from members on this site, who would rather exchange shallow insults with me than add real value to this thread like "Father Guido Sarducci", I've decided only to share with those who deserve special consideration.

Back on point -- The one you want is named Zhang Xiaojie, the locals call her Zhang Meinue (Meinue is a general term for prostitute). Anyway, she can be found at an establishment run by my friend "Lannie" near the eastern triangle i've mentioned in my previous reports.

I have her close friend's cell number, who is also red-hot with very large firm breasts, long legs a tight ass, and can suck the chrome off a bumper! PM me for her cell if your interested -- she will help put you in touch with Zhang.

Happy Hunting,

StrayCat

Travelers25
10-22-06, 14:57
Well, I hardly believe this story, but never say never. Maybe this guy just had bad of the worst. Most Chinese will not mess with foreigners, because the government seriously takes this kind of things. I personally know a case which one guy paid his life for armed robbery. Next time, call the cops for helping.Interesting response, Tomcat. Do you typically shrug off unsolicited advice, or are you just suspicious by nature? Seeing how you've apparently spent time in Columbia, one would think that you wouldn't blink an eye to a story like this.

I did not write this up because I was bored -- I just hoped that this might give someone a couple things to think about before walking into any similar situation.

Juno Audio
10-23-06, 15:06
Straycat, I didn't know Mei Nue ( 美 女 ) is now the general term for prostitute? I thought Xiao Jie was. So now what can we use to call beautiful women that are not prostitutes?

Straycat
10-23-06, 18:28
Straycat, I didn't know Mei Nue ( 美 女 ) is now the general term for prostitute? I thought Xiao Jie was. So now what can we use to call beautiful women that are not prostitutes?Hi JAudio,

Xiaojie is the word for Miss or Mrs. or young woman. (Taitai can also be used for Mrs.). This is how I learned it in both college chinese and my handy zhonguohua cidian.

In these parts at least, they locals call prostitutes Meinue instead of Jinue. I think the Mei you used might also be wrong -- you're using mei as in meiguo, they are using mei as in meimei -- i could be wrong on the Chinese (i'm definitely not an expert on Chinese language), but am sure the locals call sex workers Meinue. I've heard them say it both in reference to prostitutes they are talking about and directly to them instead of using their name. I hope this helps...

I've been successful calling beautiful women who are not prostitutes piaoliang nuren.

StrayCat

Kunshan
10-24-06, 03:14
I don't think that Mei Nv 美女 is the term for prostitutes, Xiao Jie 小姐 still is, but I am sure there are many pretty girls that are called Mei Nv that are Xiao Jie,,, and many 美女肯定是要钱的,但是不是小姐。

Zhangsan
10-24-06, 05:56
Kunshan has the right of it; 'meinv' is a generic term that can be applied to all females, really; for example, in restaraunts, you will often hear some customers addressing waitresses as 'meinv'. Guys are 'shuai ge' (handsome brother), and girls are 'mei nv' (pretty lady). 'Xiao jie' is used more widely for prostitutes, although it also varies from region to region; in Chengdu, it's used to refer to prostitutes, but in Shanghai, it's acceptable to call a girl a xiaojie without saying that she's a WG.

Juno Audio
10-24-06, 06:36
Straycat, I'm sure my "mei nu" is correct in Chinese, because if you use the mei in "mei mei", it doesn't make sense, because the mei in mei mei means "younger sister", and "younger-sister girl" doesn't mean anything in Chinese as a term.

By the way, I'm fluent in Chinese, I just haven't been to ChengDu, so I don't know what terms they use over there. I've heard "mei nu" used by pims before, but I've always took it at face value meaning "pretty girl". Maybe ChengDu is changing the way they call prostitutes, who knows.

Straycat
10-25-06, 18:49
Straycat, I'm sure my "mei nu" is correct in Chinese, because if you use the mei in "mei mei", it doesn't make sense, because the mei in mei mei means "younger sister", and "younger-sister girl" doesn't mean anything in Chinese as a term.

By the way, I'm fluent in Chinese, I just haven't been to ChengDu, so I don't know what terms they use over there. I've heard "mei nu" used by pims before, but I've always took it at face value meaning "pretty girl". Maybe ChengDu is changing the way they call prostitutes, who knows.Ok, Great -- now I'm even more confused. Don't really know what meinue means for sure -- all I can say is that back home we call them "Smokin' Hot or Eye Candy"

StrayCat

FlyingHigh
11-02-06, 10:52
I have been reading many reports in this Chengdu forum, but still find it difficult to abstract some real good tips/hints from the reports. Some reports are just to vague or just give a small hint. Please remember it will be very difficult for a foreigner to move around in a city where almost nobody speaks english!

Near what park in Chengu is the so called El Dorado or Triangle? Is that Xinhua park or some other park in the city? (Straycat has written some reports about this area)

I appreciate all your help and comments!

China 69
11-05-06, 09:40
Ok, Great -- now I'm even more confused. Don't really know what meinue means for sure -- all I can say is that back home we call them "Smokin' Hot or Eye Candy"
StrayCat

When I lived in Chengdu a couple years ago, a local chinese guy taught me the word "mei nu" as meaning sort of a slang term for beautiful girl. Like if you meet a girl at a bar and want to compliment her call her a "mei nu". It doesn't mean prostitute.

Laowai
11-07-06, 00:22
美女never means prostitute even if you're talking about a beautiful prostitute. Even then it means 'a beauty', a beautiful woman.

小姐 means 'miss' as in 'not yet married' (because in China you'd never go looking for hot MILF's to bang, right?... wrong!) Anyway, 小姐 refers to any unmarried woman. It also refers to prostitutes when used in the sex industry or among horny/ all friends...

Keep in mind that if someone you know professionally wants to introduce you to a 小姐 or a 美女,it probably just means for dating or something not $$ related. Unless he precurses the suggestion by asking if you like to 作那个。。

Suggestion: Don't worry about speaking, especially not in Chengdu where everyone sounds like a bunch of pidgeon/crows. Instead just let your height, your white skin or your $$ lead the way.

Good Luck!

Juno Audio
11-07-06, 17:39
美女never means prostitute even if you're talking about a beautiful prostitute. Even then it means 'a beauty', a beautiful woman.

小姐 means 'miss' as in 'not yet married' (because in China you'd never go looking for hot MILF's to bang, right?... wrong!) Anyway, 小姐 refers to any unmarried woman. It also refers to prostitutes when used in the sex industry or among horny/ all friends...

Keep in mind that if someone you know professionally wants to introduce you to a 小姐 or a 美女,it probably just means for dating or something not $$ related. Unless he precurses the suggestion by asking if you like to 作那个。。

Suggestion: Don't worry about speaking, especially not in Chengdu where everyone sounds like a bunch of pidgeon/crows. Instead just let your height, your white skin or your $$ lead the way.

Good Luck!


I have to disagree with you on this one LaoWai, if XiaoJie can mean prostitute, then so can MeiNu. That's why I raised the question in the first place. Before I came to China many years ago, XiaoJie only meant "miss", and now look what happened.

Kunshan
11-08-06, 02:32
I agree with Laowai's depiction of the use of Mei Nu and Xiao Jie. In fact I think that Xiao Jie in the pre-revolution times also could mean working girls or un-married girls,,,but I'm not that old so best to ask a Ye Ye on that one.

BUT I have to say,,,I think Sichuan dialect sounds good, and if you can speak Sichuan Hua or Mandarin (to a less degree) in Sichuan then you will probably never have to p4p again,,,unless you get sick and tired of kicking the girls out.

Asn Dragon
11-17-06, 08:05
Chengdu is really a hard place to find action. Granted, the girls there are very pretty. In my opinion Sichuan girls are one of the best looking ones. They have the best skin, and i think it's the chili that they eat or something that helps them have the best looking bodies. They have higher percentages of having larger breasts, smaller waists and a nicer round ass.

In fact, having been in Chengdu, I must say that i saw more gorgeous girls on average than any other city that I've stepped foot in. They just have the nicest bodies. But mongering in Chengdu is not fun at all. Prices are a lot more expensive than SZ or Dongguan. In fact, it costs about 800 to 1000 per pop.

My opinion, Chengdu is a tourist type of city for rich folks. As a result, many girls there are pretty, but are spoiled due to the willigness of rich guys willing to shell out a good amoung of maos for the girls.

but this place called 浴城 it's the largest japanese looking style place, has the prettiest girls in any suana place i've been to. Too bad it's not a place that offers any substantial extra service.

Prices are as follows: 298、398及598元三種

But I think that if you are good at flirting with the girls, they will be willing to do things with you outside of work.

Asn Dragon
11-17-06, 08:13
Do be aware of saunas in Chengu that rip you off. There are many suanas located in Hotels, on the side of hotels or back of hotels. These hotels are usually 2-3 star hotels.

Many of these places are rather run down, and they trick customers by saying that it only costs 330 yuan for a pop and the suana room plus massage for 1 hour. Many of these places will say whatever you want to hear to get you to pick a line up of about 5-7 girls. Once you pick them, they will bring you to a room and the girl will try whatever it takes to get you to finish off realy quick. Afterwards, they will say they are going to wash up and come give you a massage. However, what really happens is that the suana owners will come into your room with three other guys, and demand you pay a fee of 1000 yuan plus. It's a really dirty trap that the suana owners put you through. If you are not able to pay, they will really find some way to have you cough up the money.

It's a really intimidating experience and sight to be half naked in bed and having 4 guys come to you demanding you to pay 1000 yuan or more for the girl. They add on bogus fees such as room fee 300, service fee 300, cleanign fee 200..etc..etc..

Stay away from these places. If you do go into one, either you get out as soon as you can, or better prepare to pay a lot of money.

Chengdu is not a very monger-friendly place. Only do girls in your hotel rooms if you know mommy contacts. if not, i would suggest you not roaming around the city by yourself.

Straycat
11-17-06, 23:39
Chengdu is really a hard place to find action. Granted, the girls there are very pretty. In my opinion Sichuan girls are one of the best looking ones. They have the best skin, and i think it's the chili that they eat or something that helps them have the best looking bodies. They have higher percentages of having larger breasts, smaller waists and a nicer round ass.

In fact, having been in Chengdu, I must say that i saw more gorgeous girls on average than any other city that I've stepped foot in. They just have the nicest bodies. But mongering in Chengdu is not fun at all. Prices are a lot more expensive than SZ or Dongguan. In fact, it costs about 800 to 1000 per pop.

My opinion, Chengdu is a tourist type of city for rich folks. As a result, many girls there are pretty, but are spoiled due to the willigness of rich guys willing to shell out a good amoung of maos for the girls.Finally, something worth reading! Thank you Dragon! I was begining to think this was a chinese language thread. Now your gift -- Although we disagree on many points, we do agree that Chengdu women have the rest of China licked in term of sweet delicate beauty with smokin' hot bodies.

Truth is, they're all around you -- it seems like practically all of them can be bought. Sometimes it's scary to think about how many prostitutes are in this town -- the trick is how to get them.

Dont' know where you've been, but CD is dirt cheap when shopping for a girl. Only Emei is cheaper (I guess CP is technically cheaper according to OAH, but based on the pic he produced, which he didn't even take, both the story and the girl stink like rotten fish).

Anyway, I personally know CD well enough to be a taxi driver in this town, so listen to me when I tell you to read my shit, and you'll be a happy little camper. There are places where the lineup on the street is 30 girls long -- and each and every one of them is AAA quality -- and, depending on your nego. skills only one to two red maos. That includes sucking and more angles than a geometry class.

Check it out bro and you'll be singing a different song about CD in a New York minute.

--StrayCat

Straycat
11-17-06, 23:53
I have been reading many reports in this Chengdu forum, but still find it difficult to abstract some real good tips/hints from the reports. Some reports are just to vague or just give a small hint. Please remember it will be very difficult for a foreigner to move around in a city where almost nobody speaks english!

Near what park in Chengu is the so called El Dorado or Triangle? Is that Xinhua park or some other park in the city? (Straycat has written some reports about this area)

I appreciate all your help and comments!Here's the deal -- I am a foreigner, and my Chinese sucks, but I busted my ass to find the golden nuggets of CD.

If I can find these places with nothing, then my hints are more than enough for you to find them -- probably too much -- in fact I met a New Zealander who said he read my reports and found both me and the "lost city of gold" He then went and overpaid (200RMB) for a stunning 19 year old, just because he had to have her -- didn't even haggle.

He said 2 things -- the girls are some of the finest he's seen in China and if he were me he wouldn't have told anyone about these places -- I guess i just have a big heart -- SO, do some work, then don't forget to thank me when you tell us all about the great time you had.

StrayCat

Straycat
11-17-06, 23:59
I agree with Laowai's depiction of the use of Mei Nu and Xiao Jie. In fact I think that Xiao Jie in the pre-revolution times also could mean working girls or un-married girls,,,but I'm not that old so best to ask a Ye Ye on that one.

BUT I have to say,,,I think Sichuan dialect sounds good, and if you can speak Sichuan Hua or Mandarin (to a less degree) in Sichuan then you will probably never have to p4p again,,,unless you get sick and tired of kicking the girls out.So I went to one of my favorite spots and asked 6 girls if they were Meinue's. The girls who I know are not prostitutes, but establisment workers, emphatically said NO -- they were not a MeiNue. The 3 who are prostitutes said the were Meinue's.

Conclusion: Meinue = prostitute.

GlenEagle
11-18-06, 07:01
So I went to one of my favorite spots and asked 6 girls if they were Meinue's. The girls who I know are not prostitutes, but establisment workers, emphatically said NO -- they were not a MeiNue. The 3 who are prostitutes said the were Meinue's.

Conclusion: Meinue = prostitute.


Meinue simply means beautiful lady. For non-working girl, they are just humble to say that they are not MeiNue. Whereas for working girls, it is a part of a sales pitch, they will always claim to be Meinue so that you will take them or introduce your contacts to them.

Just my POV

GlenEagle

OldAsiaHand
11-18-06, 09:18
(I guess CP is technically cheaper according to OAH, but based on the pic he produced, which he didn't even take, both the story and the girl stink like rotten fish).
--StrayCat

I thought you had posted your "Last Word" on the subject a few pages back. I reckon that this is your third post about it since then. Why don't you just give it up? Cheap P4P is available all over China if you know where to look for it. My point was that you are not the only monger on this board that knows where it is at.

Cronin posted the pic from the catacombs in CP and I was with him at the time. Cronin is a legend on this board and has contributed more pics than almost everybody else combined. Please do not attack his integrity, nor his taste in women. Furthermore, there are numerous fellow mongers on this board that can vouch for the existence of the catacombs.

Finally, I have not seen any pictures of your great conquests.

OAH

LittleGoomba
11-18-06, 09:40
If this is an example of your powers of reasoning, then I've already been giving you more credit than you deserve.

Which has now been rectified.


So I went to one of my favorite spots and asked 6 girls if they were Meinue's. The girls who I know are not prostitutes, but establisment workers, emphatically said NO -- they were not a MeiNue. The 3 who are prostitutes said the were Meinue's.

Conclusion: Meinue = prostitute.

Straycat
11-19-06, 15:04
I thought you had posted your "Last Word" on the subject a few pages back. I reckon that this is your third post about it since then. Why don't you just give it up? Cheap P4P is available all over China if you know where to look for it. My point was that you are not the only monger on this board that knows where it is at.

Cronin posted the pic from the catacombs in CP and I was with him at the time. Cronin is a legend on this board and has contributed more pics than almost everybody else combined. Please do not attack his integrity, nor his taste in women. Furthermore, there are numerous fellow mongers on this board that can vouch for the existence of the catacombs.

Finally, I have not seen any pictures of your great conquests.

OAHI knew it would take much for you and Goober to crawl out from under your rock and start whining again-- My bone isn't with Cronin, so don't hide behind him, try to drag him into your mess, or use his pics to tell me how great your are -- that's stupid -- be a man.

That means in this instance take your own pics when talkin' smack. You talked about how far you've scratched below the surface all over the world, yet you can't even use your own pics to back it up -- that's low rent.

I've not only delivered and posted pics, but have dished out phone numbers to boot -- and as always I never asked for anything in return.

JK666 already talked about your catacomb girls -- he described them as "Crack *****s" as I recall and washed his cock for a week after going there.

Because you bore me, here's how I'm gonna deal with you and your kind -- write whatever you want, but I'll ignore it all -- I'm interested in sex with hot women, not jousting with lactacting geezers like you and "Vinnie Goombatz".

StrayCat

Straycat
11-19-06, 15:15
Meinue simply means beautiful lady. For non-working girl, they are just humble to say that they are not MeiNue. Whereas for working girls, it is a part of a sales pitch, they will always claim to be Meinue so that you will take them or introduce your contacts to them.

Just my POV

GlenEagleI prefer to say Nin gui xing/ni jiao shenme mingzi, and call them their names -- this strategy has helped me becoming better friends with them.

LittleGoomba
11-20-06, 13:25
Hi Straycat,

Are you really that much of a fool? It's obvious to everyone but you why people come at you. Let me hold up a mirror up for you:

1. You're an ass. That goes over well.....at parties in hell.
2. Ever since your award-winning people skills began showing up, you've added practically nothing of any usefulness to this board.
3. Yes, that's quite a life you should be proud of. You spend all your time riding around on your BICYCLE looking for places where you can save - oh - about five bucks. Oh yes, you also spend time endearing yourself to us. That's quite a legacy to look forward to.
4. Nice job with the credibility as well. You've written, how many Last Words? You back up your boasts with...uh, jack squat? You say you speak Chinese well but decide 'mei nv' = prostitute after querying a small group of uneducated working girls? Yes, I think Berlitz is calling...
5. Finally, the thing worse than arrogance is ignorance. I think you are totally right about what a waste of time it can be dealing with negative energy. The sad and ironic thing is that those words are coming straight from someone who has been a cancer and has epitomized the very essence of negative energy.

Take a good look. It was too late for Dorian Gray. It doesn't have to be for you.

LG

PS - And if you're going to be ass, tell the facts. I PMed you once suggesting you play nice. Didn't need a reply from that nor from any of the posts. And you're now on my Ignore List. Pity. I do enjoy seeing train wrecks like you prove the old adage, you don't need to expose the fool. Just wait til he opens his mouth and he'll do it himself.



Now! -- as for you Gumby-- I can't believe your coming at me like that -- I think your pissed because I've always ignored your posts and your PM's. It's gonna take a lot more than that if you want to be my sidekick.

No hard feelings, but it's just that you have nothing to contribute except for negative energy -- life's too short to deal with that, and I'm having just too good a time -- over a 100 since last count -- and 90% were USDA prime.

And Oh yeah, I am absolutely positive my Putonghua 10 years ago was better than yours will ever be, so back up!

Be advised -- I don't swat flies (that's you), so consider yourself exiled until you clean up your act.

StrayCat

Moody
11-20-06, 15:28
So I went to one of my favorite spots and asked 6 girls if they were Meinue's. The girls who I know are not prostitutes, but establisment workers, emphatically said NO -- they were not a MeiNue. The 3 who are prostitutes said the were Meinue's.

Conclusion: Meinue = prostitute.

Oh.... My..... God.....

Half a dozen people have piped in on this, and Stray Cat still doesn't seem to get it. Somehow, his bastardized Mandarin is correct, but the rest of us are all wrong....

Straycat,

Why don't you try this on the girls:

Ni shi bu shi ji nu??

"Jinu" or "biaozi" are actually the proper terms (although "biaozi" can also mean plain old "biyatch") for prostitute. I will bet you none of the girls will admit to being one. Admitting to being a prostitute is not something Chinese girls will do in front of other people. The loss of face would be beyond recovery.

Seeing as how you're utterly confused, I will try to explain the root of the word "meinu" to you. Others have tried, but apparently, it didn't get through your thick skull the first half dozen times.

Mei ( 美 )= Pretty, as in meirong, as in mei miao. Oddly, it can also mean America.
Nu (女 ) = female, as in nuren, as in liangnu (which is same thing as "meinu").

"Meinu" means nothing more than pretty girl. It does NOT mean "hooker."

BTW, "Nin gui xing" is an utterly inappropriate thing to say to a hooker. By saying it, you either brand yourself a complete clueless idiot, or you're utterly mocking her. Everytime you say this to a hooker, you completely lose ALL face. "Nin gui xing" is something you would reserve for someone who's station is above yours, like the CEO of Bank of China, or like just about everyone else in this forum. I say this with the utmost confidence because apparently, your station in life is BELOW that of a common 50RMB hooker. "Nin gui xing" is basically something like, "May I have the honor of knowing your precious surname." Yeah, saying that to a hooker is appropriate... I bet you call the fry guy at McDonald's, "Sir."

You can take this post however you want. You can come back all insulting and try to post something else idiotic and say you're right and the rest of China is wrong; or you can take it as what it is, a correction of your mistake. Once again, you are mistaken if you think "meinu" means hooker. I feel the need to repeat this again cuz you seem really REALLY dense.

One last thing, in pinyin, there is no "nue," it's just "nu". Before you try correcting others, you should try and make sure you're right... In this instance, you're trying to say 2+2=5 when everyone else is saying 4.

Qqcyber
11-20-06, 16:23
Arrgh! How long will this go on for? Mei Nu is definitely, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, a generic term for beautiful women, at very least in Sichuan and Beijing. I use and hear it used regularly in social contexts without any hint of a suggestion at any another meaning.

Yes, there's a chance that it could become corrupted in the same way xiao jie has been (to the extent the phrase is used less and less in other contexts these days), but it certainly hasn't been yet.

It's certainly also possible that as of now, in the specific environment of a barbershop / massage parlour, the only people who'd get described as mei nv are the working girls, but I certainly can't say it's something I've ever noticed myself.

I think Staycat has posted some worthwhile tips, but as others have pointed out, he's not the only one on the planet to have discovered that the cheaper end of the market is also available to us. I seem to recall posting about a couple of the cheaper places in Chengdu some time back. My record is 50 rmb from a SW in Chengdu 18 months ago and I wouldn't go back. Not that I could mind you, the street no longer existed the last time I was in the area.

Cheers,

qq

Santa
11-20-06, 18:00
Has the Chengdu thread become the Philippines Fight Forum? or am I lost? :confused:

Please, let's end this and not flame each other.

Cebu Local
11-21-06, 02:03
Has the Chengdu thread become the Philippines Fight Forum? or am I lost? :confused:

Please, let's end this and not flame each other.Or else Santa will invite the Philippine Boarders over.But Santa dont you think Holton and BBB would certainly liven up this thread

Sammy_T
11-21-06, 04:46
BTW, "Nin gui xing" is an utterly inappropriate thing to say to a hooker. By saying it, you either brand yourself a complete clueless idiot, or you're utterly mocking her. Everytime you say this to a hooker, you completely lose ALL face. "Nin gui xing" is something you would reserve for someone who's station is above yours, like the CEO of Bank of China, or like just about everyone else in this forum. I say this with the utmost confidence because apparently, your station in life is BELOW that of a common 50RMB hooker. "Nin gui xing" is basically something like, "May I have the honor of knowing your precious surname." Yeah, saying that to a hooker is appropriate...
Moody -
Thanks for this insight. I must admit I have used this phrase with KTV girls when trying to ask their name. I would use "Ni gui xing" instead of "Nin". I know that "Nin" is more formal than "Ni". Is this still just as bad? This phrase is one of the standard phrase used by English/Chinese phrase books to ask someones name. I understand how Straycat could have gotten mistaken as I was too. I must admit when I have used it they have always given me a strange look like I said something wrong, and then responded with their family name. I now understand why.
Thanks for your help!

Kunshan
11-21-06, 05:20
or you can say, Xiao Jie, Zen Me Cheng Hu? 小姐,怎么称呼?

“Miss, what should I call you.”

Its less formal, but still polite.

Straycat
11-21-06, 15:52
Oh My God.

One last thing, in pinyin, there is no "nue," it's just "nu". Before you try correcting others, you should try and make sure you're right... In this instance, you're trying to say 2+2=5 when everyone else is saying 4.Thanks for the edification on Chinese language -- I'll be sure to let my Chinese language professor at UC Berkeley, who was born and raised in China, know that some moron and self-professed expert on Chinese language from the internatinal sex guide says that there is no "Nue" in pinyin.

Straycat
11-21-06, 16:24
post something else idiotic and say you're right and the rest of China is wrong; Since when did a pervert named "moody" speak for the rest of China? Now that is beyond idiotic.

Perhaps you should consider changing your handle to Huangdi Moody -- and don't forget to let Hu Jintao know that he needs to start looking for work. Please keep Wen Jiaobao and Bo Xilai in your administration, they've done a great job.

But before you do that you may want to consider putting down the crack pipe, getting yourself into rehab and get that GED you always promised Maw back in the trailer park, because speaking for 1.3 billion people is a big responsibility.

Also, I'm comfortable with Nin, and having respect for all people including prostitutes.

It's people like you I don't respect -- a few dollars in the bank, maybe a social security check every month, a second rate education at best, and a couple of Chinese words under your belt, and being able to take advantage of a few poor Chinese girls who smile at your ugly face and disgusting body because they want a better life, and you think your a God. You make me sick.

I'll bet you couldn't get laid if you didn't pay for it.

Straycat
11-21-06, 17:07
er. "nin gui xing" is basically something like, "may i have the honor of knowing your precious surname." lesson one -- page 1

nin gui xing exactly means "please may i ask your honorable surname" -- not something basically like this or that. try to get it right; there's no harm in using it.

these girls have, for the most part, been disrespected their whole miserable life, after all who say's when they're a little girl, "mommy i want to be a ***** when i grow up and have sex with fat old disgusting foreigners like moody."

did you get kicked in the head by bessie, the family mule, when you were a little kid back on the farm? or are you from the ozarks, and a product of [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128)?

these girls are merely suprised when a wealthy, educated, good looking, physically fit, foreigner shows them some respect. that is why they look suprised. try it, it may work for you too, should you be tired of behaving like a stupid drunken sailor with a 3rd grade education.

even though i am not a expert on chinese language, i am familiar with page 1 in any university level chinese language textbook. perhaps you should consider learning chinese in a formal setting and not in some dank alley while intoxicated on cheap booze. you can have my text if you want, since i have mastered all of its material.

should you take my advice, i also suggest you review your compound finals, which include ue as in ueng. which you did not know previously existed; this proves to me you don't have formal training in putonghua, and are utterly worthless as a resource to anyone.

fyi, there's nothing worse than an idiot who thinks they know what they're talking about when they really are clueless, so try and do your homework -- it will help you look less stupid going forward.

Straycat
11-21-06, 17:30
Begin Chinese language lesson, day 1 , first hour

And I quote from 2005 printing, Integrated Chinese, second edition, ISBN 0-88727-460-9, page 11, paragraph 3.

"In Pinyin Orthography some vowels are omitted for the sake of economy,
e.g., u(e); however, when pronouncing those sounds the vowels must not be omitted."

Ue is known as an unaspirated dental sibilant. Since Ue first came up in a speaking context on this thread, it was therefore appropriate and necessary to include the omitted vowel in the discussion.

Class is over.

Checkmate Moody! And oh yeah -- you're a loser.

Straycat
11-21-06, 17:47
or you can say, Xiao Jie, Zen Me Cheng Hu? 小姐,怎么称呼?

“Miss, what should I call you.”

Its less formal, but still polite.I really hate to point this out, because it saps my energy but I am free tonight and laying low sipping on some Herradora blue agave.

According to my Textbook:

Zenme means "how" or "How Come" (used to inquire about the cause of something, implying a degree of surprise or disapproval), as in zenmeyang = how does that sound? It does not mean "What", as in "what should I call you?"

Shemne, means "what", and may be more suitable in the above recommended "what should I call you"?

Moody
11-21-06, 19:24
Begin Chinese language lesson, day 1 , first hour

And I quote from 2005 printing, Integrated Chinese, second edition, ISBN 0-88727-460-9, page 11, paragraph 3.

"In Pinyin Orthography some vowels are omitted for the sake of economy,
e.g., u(e); however, when pronouncing those sounds the vowels must not be omitted."

Ue is known as an unaspirated dental sibilant. Since Ue first came up in a speaking context on this thread, it was therefore appropriate and necessary to include the omitted vowel in the discussion.

Class is over.

Checkmate Moody! And oh yeah -- you're a loser.


Cat....

Each time you post, you prove to everyone in the forum how GALACTICALLY STUPID you are. You just posted proving me correct!!!!

Read your post, that is if your 2nd grade education got you far enough to read more than 1 syllable words... In case you missed it, I'll highlight the important part for you.

In Pinyin Orthography some vowels are omitted for the sake of economy,
e.g., u(e); however, when pronouncing those sounds the vowels must not be omitted.

When you say "nu," as anyone who has taken a SINGLE Mandarin class will tell you, (sorry Straycat, correspondence class from Apex Tech doesn't count) you make the short "i" sound. When you WRITE it, you just write "nu." Exactly the way the people who wrote Integrated Chinese, second edition, ISBN 0-88727-460-9, page 11, paragraph 3., wrote it....

Writing it and saying it ain't the same thing you idiot. I bet you pronounce "knight" like "kuh-nig-hut," which is fully expected since a 2nd grade education wouldn't get you to homonyms yet.

BTW, if you really were trying to write it as it sounds, I presume what's what you mean when you say "speaking context," how come you don't do that with the other words?? Like "Mei." You may as well write that as "May." How about "xiaojie." You should have written that as "shao jiye." As for the granddaddy of 'em all, "Nin gui xing," why didn't you write all the omitted vowels and consonants in that one??? The simple and correct answer, you're an idiot and now you're trying to backtrack your mistakes and correct 'em. The problem is, you're correcting 'em wrong and you're coming off as a bigger idiot... LMAO

Once again, another moron trying to sound all smart proving himself yet a bigger moron....idiot loser....

Moody
11-21-06, 19:43
lesson one -- page 1

nin gui xing exactly means "please may i ask your honorable surname" -- not something basically like this or that. try to get it right; there's no harm in using it.

once again, you are proving yourself a bigger moron. you obviously don't have any idea what it exactly means. i'll tell you just so you know. it means exactly, "you precious surname."

nin ( 您 )= you (formal)
gui ( 贵 )= precious, expensive
xing ( 姓 )= surname

however, in context, there's usually a self deprecating demeanor when using the phrase. there is no "may i ask." the "may i ask" is inferred from the questioning tone as you say it. it's like saying, "your name is?" in a questioning tone. as i stated before, it would be a better translation to say, "may i have the honor of knowing your precious surname."

that said, only a beginner, or an idiot as the case may be (specifically your case), would translate word for word. you translate ideas. if you don't believe me, try translating the phrase, "where are you?" into mandarin. it doesn't work does it? you get "nali shi ni?" which makes absolutely no sense.


these girls have, for the most part, been disrespected their whole miserable life, after all who say's when they're a little girl, "mommy i want to be a ***** when i grow up and have sex with fat old disgusting foreigners like moody."

rotflmao!!!! first of all, i'm 35, i weigh 145lbs, i'm 5'8, i'm light skinned asian. the vast majority of chinese simply assume i'm a native and i am usually referred to as "liangzai." anybody who has met me can attest to this.

i notice however, in every single comeback, you try and insult the other guys by saying they're fat and old. i sense a bit of the pot trying to call the kettle black. lmao.


did you get kicked in the head by bessie, the family mule, when you were a little kid back on the farm? or are you from the ozarks, and a product of [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128)? hit a nerve have we???

again, references to [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128), the ozarks, etc, etc... there's only one reason i can think of when a guy keeps repeating over and over about such things. it's exactly like the gay guy telling everyone else they're gay... so what was it, your mom and your dad were brother and sister? or did your grandpa (and pa) do your mom and end up with you cuz the condom had a hole in it?


these girls are merely suprised when a wealthy, educated, good looking, physically fit, foreigner shows them some respect. that is why they look suprised. try it, it may work for you too, should you be tired of behaving like a stupid drunken sailor with a 3rd grade education.

i find that pretending i'm a 3rd grader gets me more chicks. seriously though, who the fuck cares???? whether you're old, fat, ugly, have bad breath, etc., etc., the girls will fuck you as long as you have yuan. they're prostitutes. that's what they do!!!!! man, you have got to be the weirdest guy in the world. a guy who gets high on himself cuz some hookers showed him a good time. lmao!!!!!! by the way, that look of surprise?? it's cuz they can't believe such idiots exist....


even though i am not a expert on chinese language, i am familiar with page 1 in any university level chinese language textbook. perhaps you should consider learning chinese in a formal setting and not in some dank alley while intoxicated on cheap booze. you can have my text if you want, since i have mastered all of its material.

geez........ a guy who thinks "meinu" means prostitute and goes around asking prostitutes for their surname is trying to tell me how to speak mandarin.... lmao... you really are a clueless fuck.


should you take my advice, i also suggest you review your compound finals, which include ue as in ueng. which you did not know previously existed; this proves to me you don't have formal training in putonghua, and are utterly worthless as a resource to anyone.

yet oddly, i am a better resource than you because i'm correct. so tell me, if i'm better than you, and i'm "utterly worthless," what does that make you???? what's that word for below "utterly worthless??" oh yeah, i know, it's "straycat!!"


fyi, there's nothing worse than an idiot who thinks they know what they're talking about when they really are clueless, so try and do your homework -- it will help you look less stupid going forward.

oddly, i agree with you. so go do your homework instead of going around asking hookers for their surnames. loser.

btw, when you ask the hookers for their surname and they give it to you, do you actually believe they give you their real name??? i bet you do, seeing how you respect them and all.... hookers would never lie to you....

Moody
11-21-06, 19:57
since when did a pervert named "moody" speak for the rest of china? now that is beyond idiotic.

not only do i admit to being a pervert, i am quite proud of that fact. as for speaking for the rest of china, i do when i'm right and they agree. like when i say, "the sun rises in the east," i feel the rest of china agrees with me. in exactly the same way when i say, "straycat's an idiot," i feel the rest of china agrees with me.


perhaps you should consider changing your handle to huangdi moody -- and don't forget to let hu jintao know that he needs to start looking for work. please keep wen jiaobao and bo xilai in your administration, they've done a great job.

"huangdi moody" is just too pretentious, and i like to at least pretend to be humble. as for hu jintao, i tried talking to him last month about it, but his bodyguards wouldn't let me near him. fucking bodyguards...


but before you do that you may want to consider putting down the crack pipe, getting yourself into rehab and get that ged you always promised maw back in the trailer park, because speaking for 1.3 billion people is a big responsibility.

lmao!!! these things you post, i get the feeling, and i'm sure a lot of people will agree, they're autobiographical. so what is it? your mom and dad are brother and sister but they couldn't handle it so they're high on crack all the time?? you had to support them by selling your body and couldn't finish 3rd grade??


also, i'm comfortable with nin, and having respect for all people including prostitutes.

yeah, you go and do that. btw, the hookers don't look at it as respect. they look at it as you mocking them. it's ok for you though, since obviously, your station in life is below that of the 50rmb hookers. starting tomorrow, to show how respectful you are, why don't you start calling the beggars on the street "xian sheng" or better yet, "lao ban."


it's people like you i don't respect -- a few dollars in the bank, maybe a social security check every month, a second rate education at best, and a couple of chinese words under your belt, and being able to take advantage of a few poor chinese girls who smile at your ugly face and disgusting body because they want a better life, and you think your a god.

fool, getting respect from you would be like getting respect from a cockroach. i don't want it and if i have it, i want to know how to get rid of it. as for the other crap. you're on ss too??? man, you've had a hard life, what with your mom and dad being brother and sister and all. were you a crack baby too?? and to top it off, you're on ss. i bet selling your body for gay sex in the 3rd grade fucked you up big time in the head. i feel sorry for you man. i really do. like i feel sorry for those pathetic cockroaches i step on. compared to common cockroaches like you, i am god.


you make me sick.

i'm trying my best.


i'll bet you couldn't get laid if you didn't pay for it.

actually, it's not the getting laid part that's hard. it's the getting rid of them part that's difficult. i would have thought with you being so young and handsome you would know that already.... but i guess that was all bullshit and you're just a really fucked up [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) crack baby loser who gets his kicks off of paying 50rmb for sex and bragging about it

btw, do you believe the hookers when they say, "i love you???" i bet you do... seeing how you respect them and all....

Moody
11-21-06, 20:00
thanks for the edification on chinese language -- i'll be sure to let my chinese language professor at uc berkeley, who was born and raised in china, know that some moron and self-professed expert on chinese language from the internatinal sex guide says that there is no "nue" in pinyin.

if you're gonna pretend you graduated college, why not just tell everyone you went to harvard? while you're at it, tell everyone you got an "a" in sanskrit to prove to everyone what a great linguist you are. as for your prof (probably from apex tech correspendence school), go and ask him. he'll correct your dumbass... btw, try typing "nue" into a t9 mandarin capable cellphone... see what you get.... you fucking no college 2nd grade education [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) crack baby selling his body for gay sex in the 3rd grade loser...

Moody
11-21-06, 20:11
Moody -
Thanks for this insight. I must admit I have used this phrase with KTV girls when trying to ask their name. I would use "Ni gui xing" instead of "Nin". I know that "Nin" is more formal than "Ni". Is this still just as bad? This phrase is one of the standard phrase used by English/Chinese phrase books to ask someones name. I understand how Straycat could have gotten mistaken as I was too. I must admit when I have used it they have always given me a strange look like I said something wrong, and then responded with their family name. I now understand why.
Thanks for your help!

If you want to ask a girl her surname, you can just ask, "Ni xing shenme?" Saying "Ni gui xing" really doesn't make any sense since by reflex, they'll hear "Nin gui xing." Half of language is expectation. People hear what they expect to hear.

Moody
11-21-06, 20:25
Hey Straycat,

How about you go back to calling your 50RMB hookers "meinu," asking for their surnames, and doing whatever it is you normally do. Hell, you can even bow and kowtow to them if you want and to be honest, I really couldn't care less.

I'll ask that you don't try to correct the rest of us since it's obvious that most here have much more experience in China than you do. I know you're loathe to admit that, but it's the truth. A couple of guys who have posted in this thread are Chinese themselves and when you correct them, it just makes you sound foolish.

If you have good info, that's cool. Post away. That's what this forum is about. Most people here are pretty cool with similar personalities and interests. After all, a common interest is what got us to this forum in the first place. What say we stay away from the flaming. Since I got you twice to your once, I'll let you flame me back without a response. Please don't flame anyone else though. If you do, and they're someone I know, I can't help myself. You know what I mean.

Anyway, go ahead and flame me all you want in your next set of posts. I won't respond with anything insulting. If you're cool with this, let me know. If you're ever in Shenzhen or Dongguan, let me know. I'll give you all the info you need and I'll hook you up with some of the regulars if you want.


P.S. If you're not cool with this and you keep flaming either me or my friends after your next set of posts, then all bets are off. I guarantee you it will end with one of us getting banned.

Ace Gallant
11-22-06, 08:40
If you want to ask a girl her surname, you can just ask, "Ni xing shenme?" Saying "Ni gui xing" really doesn't make any sense since by reflex, they'll hear "Nin gui xing." Half of language is expectation. People hear what they expect to hear.

Now, that an old trick in the book!

I lost count of how many times the girls in KTV, Bars or night spots laugh at me when I say "Ning Gui Xing?" Like Moody said; "Can I have the honor of knowing your Lastname?"

BUT!:

I did that on purpose! It is another way to tell the girls that you are "New" the the neighbourhood and that's a piece of "nice new meat" for them!

AG

Gilby
11-22-06, 10:15
Originally Posted by Kunshan
or you can say, Xiao Jie, Zen Me Cheng Hu? 小姐,怎么称呼?

“Miss, what should I call you.”

Its less formal, but still polite.


According to my Textbook:

Zenme means "how" or "How Come" (used to inquire about the cause of something, implying a degree of surprise or disapproval), as in zenmeyang = how does that sound? It does not mean "What", as in "what should I call you?"

Shemne, means "what", and may be more suitable in the above recommended "what should I call you"?If your basing your knowledge of zenme and shenme on the extract from that book then fair enough, but you should take into account that your knowledge on the subject is only a few lines long when suggesting to translate a chinese phrase using zenme. There are many exceptions to Chinese language and it is very difficult to learn, after a while you would realise that zenme chenghu ni is quite acceptable and the first translation was fine. I doubt the poster would be phased by your negative post (since your generally regarded as a moron by most on here) but this isn't international semantics guide, even if Jackson does take a hardline on poor punctuation. So chill out man, we were all beginners of Chinese at one stage, even natives, there is no shame in having a limited knowledge, nobody is going to look down upon you as a result. Pretending to be an authority on something you clearly are not however is only likely to incite those who know more about it to flame you for being such a reject with an inferiroity complex.

Moody
11-22-06, 15:22
I've already posted that I'm not gonna be posting any more flames unless it happens more than once.

What I see though, is some of the regulars popping in and trying to help the guy out. They correct his language and tell him the correct way to say things and what's appropriate and not appropriate. Instead of just saying "thank you," they guy goes and berates the seniors and tells them THEY'RE wrong!!! Some of these guys are native Chinese for god's sake!!!

I don't mind a bit of arrogance in a guy, but this guy is borderline absurd. I can speak better than most foreigners, hell I've yet to meet a foreigner who can speak Mandarin better than me. But even I don't presume to correct native speakers. This guy, who's obviously clueless not only about the language, but about the culture, actually presumes he knows better than EVERYBODY else in the forum including guys who have lived in China most of their entire lives.

Come on, the guy can't even spell "Nu" AFTER looking it up in a dictionary. Somehow though, his convoluted brain translates the dictionary into saying he's correct. That's the kind of absurd arrogance we're talking about. If that kind of arrogance doesn't deserve a flame or two, than what does???

Furthermore, I take personal offense at his derogatory remarks aimed towards OAH. OAH is a good friend and unlike me, OAH is one of the nicest guys in the forum. He'll bend over backwards to help out a stranger, all the while, making you feel like you're his best friend. He has helped out every single forum member passing through his neighborhood without hesitation and many times, he has gone out of his way to make members more comfortable. Everybody who has met OAH has nothing but good things to say about him. This guy though, who has never once met OAH, insults him for no good reason other than the fact he disagrees with him. That's just not cool in my book.

Straycat
11-24-06, 20:41
I think Staycat has posted some worthwhile tips, but as others have pointed out, he's not the only one on the planet to have discovered that the cheaper end of the market is also available to us. I seem to recall posting about a couple of the cheaper places in Chengdu some time back. My record is 50 rmb from a SW in Chengdu 18 months ago and I wouldn't go back. Not that I could mind you, the street no longer existed the last time I was in the area.

Cheers,

qqAgain, again, again -- In CD/Sichuan cheap is the bonus. What makes this place special is the quality. If we were to open it up to the "planet" then CD doesn't make the list.

Straycat
11-24-06, 21:06
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Straycat
11-24-06, 21:33
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.

Prince Leo
11-25-06, 06:28
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

OldAsiaHand
11-25-06, 10:03
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Buzz00
11-25-06, 13:29
I always wonder why you people get into mindless, unending, moronic, chest beating arguments that go nowhere.

Are'nt we are here to discuss the fairer sex and how to bed them - time better spent.

Straycat
11-25-06, 15:25
I always wonder why you people get into mindless, unending, moronic, chest beating arguments that go nowhere.

Are'nt we are here to discuss the fairer sex and how to bed them - time better spent.I agree with you 110%. That's why I signed up. I'm convinced this site is used like a boy's club, where there's an inner circle who thinks they're better than the rest. Like they are special because they wrote about chicken dinners about where to get Viagra and cheap booze.

Case in point: Moody -- he feels better about himself when he makes disparaging remarks about prostitutes and beggars. Somehow he's better than them -- they don't deserve his respect.

Personally I don't have a problem with calling a beggar xiansheng. I'm comfortable with showing respect to someone much lowerer than me. Why, because I know that I'm lucky, that there are a lot of people more deserving of the fantastic breaks I've received in life.

For other's here though, this is their chance to shit on someone, because they're still angry about their mom washing the neighbors dirty underwear in the cleaners back in New Yawk, or their watching their dad sweating over a wok, making moo goo gai pan on E42nd street. Yet they're still on the tit -- just can't figure it out, just don't care.

Zhangsan
11-25-06, 15:49
In all fairness to the cat, Cal does have a lot of non-professor lecturers in the Chinese department, several of whom are surnamed Li. And to answer your question, full-time, not extension.

BlackSun
11-25-06, 18:08
Ha ha ha.

Make love, not war!

Lao Ma
11-26-06, 01:33
Moody, you have to know it's impossible to tell a know-it-all that he is not a know-it-all. The internet is full of people who can talk smack online - it's the ultimate refuge for cowards and wanna-be's. Maybe this guy is the shiznit, but when he comes to the forum and posts to make sure we ALL know he drinks only the finest tequila in the world, is so successful that he is allready retired (!), has a special way with the inexpensive prostitutes, and tries to claim he is super proficient in mandarin, even to native chinese speakers, to me that sounds like a loud cry for help, based in life-long insecurities. Those who "have it" don't waste a moment of their time convincing others that they have it, and those that don't "have it", usually are the first to scream loudly that they are the serious players and should be looked up to. Another obvious clue to his true nature is his insistance on including at least one witty insult with each post he makes. (Well, most of them).

To each their own. My perspective is to just read his fiction for giggles and laughs. Maybe I'll get a smack-down from him for this post - if so, I'd like him to customize it so at least it's relevant to my world : Mr. Cat, I'm from Cleveland, and spent most of my life in southern California, have been in China for 11 years, my chinese still sucks, I'm 49 and have Dunlaps disease - my belly done lap over my belt. If you're going to insult me, try to weave in some of my personal data please !

OldAsiaHand
11-26-06, 16:25
Moody,

It looks like Jackson is trying to put this thread back on track. I appreciate your support, however, it is probably best just to ignore this guy. If he must get his kicks by taking cheap shots, we are just dropping down to his level by paying any attention to them. I know it is hard to resist, but I never should have let myself get into a pissing match with him in the first place.

OAH



Lao Ma,

I know what ya mean. Normally I leave the self-professed "I know everything about China and you don't" types alone to do what they want. I couldn't however, sit idly by and let Straycat take shots at my good friend OAH.

-Moody

Straycat
11-27-06, 07:51
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the ISG Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another forum member.

Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports deleted for personal attacks against other forum members will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.

1 down, 2 to go

Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson

Straycat
11-27-06, 08:14
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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.

Straycat
11-27-06, 08:26
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Farmboy5
11-28-06, 12:02
Originally Posted by Kunshan
or you can say, Xiao Jie, Zen Me Cheng Hu? 小姐,怎么称呼?

“Miss, what should I call you.”

Its less formal, but still polite.
If your basing your knowledge of zenme and shenme on the extract from that book then fair enough, but you should take into account that your knowledge on the subject is only a few lines long when suggesting to translate a chinese phrase using zenme. There are many exceptions to Chinese language and it is very difficult to learn, after a while you would realise that zenme chenghu ni is quite acceptable and the first translation was fine. I doubt the poster would be phased by your negative post (since your generally regarded as a moron by most on here) but this isn't international semantics guide, even if Jackson does take a hardline on poor punctuation. So chill out man, we were all beginners of Chinese at one stage, even natives, there is no shame in having a limited knowledge, nobody is going to look down upon you as a result. Pretending to be an authority on something you clearly are not however is only likely to incite those who know more about it to flame you for being such a reject with an inferiroity complex.

I hate to get involved in this discussion, but was interested because I am studying Chinese (as a beginner ) now. I have asked my wife who is native Chinese( Shanghainese) and my professional Chinese teacher, also a native speaker(Beijing ren). Here are their replies summarized.

Wife - " Ni jiao shenme mingzi" and "Zenme cheng hu" are both acceptable, but "zenme cheng hu" is more formal and less used in spoken language

Teacher - Same as above but with more details added. "Ni jiao shenme mingzi" is asking "You are called what name" where the shenme is modifying name in some grammatical form that I do not remember. "Zenme cheng hu" really should be "Ni zenme cheng hu" and means " How are you called" with the zenme modifying called(I think). She also said this is more formal and less used in spoken conversation, but is correct and often seen in written form.

She also said that it is correct to say "Ni cheng hu shenme" but not "Shenme cheng hu". Also cannot use "cheng hu" when talking about yourself, so cannot say "Wo cheng hu Bob"

I used up the 3 minutes of my lesson I allotted to this discussion and quit at that point.

This is all I know so no questions are permitted.

Now, let's get back to finding and reporting on p_$$y

Qqcyber
11-28-06, 16:06
Given how off topic this thread has been I feel I ought to post something back on topic even if it's not a particularly interesting report.

Following Straycat reports I went somewhere I'd never been and headed to the North Gate of Xin Hua park just after midnight last Friday night. Getting out the taxi I headed South (I think - If I was coming out of the gate of the park I would have crossed the road and turned right) There were plenty of massage parlours as well as a few bars and KTVs. I walked past a couple of restaurants that were still open and skirted one man who was trying to get me into his massage place. The next one looked busy and I choose the third. As soon as I showed an interest one of the guys sat down out front looked lively and showed me in, sitting me down in a waiting room off to one side. Asked me what I was looking for and I said "Xiao Jie" (please don't lets get into that again though...). "Bao Ye" was 400, "Kuai Can" 200. I suspect there might have been haggling room here but I really didn't feel like trying and likewise just accepted the first girl who was brought to me. Definitely nothing special looking, but I'd had worse and there seems little connection between looks and quality of service.

I paid the man and we were out the back of the shop and up a set of stairs in what was presumably a stairwell of an apartment block led to an apartment turned into a load of rooms. Reminded me strangely of Hong Kong both with the love hotel on the floor above and the incredibly cramped quarters made from divided apartment blocks.

Anyway, she showed me into a room with a sliding door and a mattress on the floor and said she'd be back soon and to take off my clothes. Off with the clothes and she was back with a sheet to cover the mattress. We spread the sheet out and then she said lets shower. Assuming she meant she'd shower with me or at very least wash me I readily agreed and wandered naked along the corridor and into a small bathroom with a couple of tubs. At this point she left me to it and I started to worry for my wallet but I think she actually only went next door into what I presume was a toilet.

Just as I was about to give up trying to get the water the right temperature she came back in and handed me a towel and I followed her back to the room. She stripped as well and she kept requesting an extra 200 rmb for a massage, even though I neither particularly wanted nor asked for one. This sort of thing really annoys me since it completely spoils the mood and if you pay you feel conned, if you don't pay you get an even worse service. Eventually we settled on 50 for a short massage which was actually surprisingly good, but still left me feeling had and I wasn't impressed at how quickly the condom was produced. Started with her on top and then finished in Mis for some very bored sex on both parts.

Tail of the story is that I didn't have 50 rmb in change and she wouldn't accept 40 and I wouldn't give 100 so we ended up going to a nearby shop together to make change, about the most GFE bit of the whole experience.

Suffice to say I won't be returning in a hurry.

QQ

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Erik
11-29-06, 23:51
Do we really need to bear lectures of how to say in Chinese "What is your name ?" , "May name is ..." on the Chengdu thread ?
For Beginners in Chinese there are schools and girlfriends, for mongers who want to perfect their skills in sex language, there is the language thread.
At least if you were discussing about the Sichuan dialect, that would make be interesting...

Dumamay
11-30-06, 09:24
Most of Chengdu areas are give bad services, but you can get a nice one for just a first time only. Capitalizing on your intuition maximumly, if you see any sense of tricky acts, such as the girls try to hide face, or mamasan/pimps are not friendly(no smile, ask where are you from, ni shi nali ren), you should walk away AT ONCE.

Always bring with you less than 600rmb in your body. In the worst case, guys come to harash you, show them your naked body and empty pockets. No ID, no passport whatsoever with you. Just 600rmb to equip yourself. If you can, do not go with LT. The girls will try to leave early. The farm girls usually have better attitude. But BJ is almost a no no in CD.

Juju dong lu is a good place to have nice service. If you want to get together, let's find out a way here in the public forum

Junren
12-02-06, 02:13
Straycat,

You may be an asshole but then again so am I. I hate it when people say i did this blah blah blah and I posted that already. The truth is that information, particularly in China get olds fast. Updates on locations and prices is greatly appreciated. If you provide valuble info on addresses, prices and context, thats all i care about. I have been living "the life" for almost 10 years now in almost every asian country but when I get to a new `city i'm a newbie for the first 24 hours and rely on this info to catchup.

So, thank you for the information. I have confiemed and found the Triangle on the north side of Xinhua Park or in Pinyin Xin Hua Gonyuan Bei Mer and even the BBBJs 2 blocks north and 1 block East of the BinJiang - Houxing Intersection well based on your information.

I went to the triangle at 3 am on a thursday night. The touts in front of the massage parlor will try their best to get you a girl for 200 ST but the selection at that time was poor in almost all 9 of the places I went. They will inevitabley lead you to the back alley of the dark housing development to make a selectionfrom 4-5 storefronts there. I have to say that the selection was great at 3 am in the morning with some really pretty and young (but bored) looking girls. I am not sure what the real price was but since i was taken by a tout, 200 was pretty good for short time since thats a somewhat fair price for convenience. You need to pay the tout before but thats ok....your word is your bond here. ( i would never find this place alone). I picked my girl and we went to another dark alley to the actual shooting gallery. I had to pay another 2 Yuan to have the guard wake up and open the gate at that time.

We went to a small room with a ratty mattress and we did the deed. The girl was pretty and accommodating but then again I am low maintenance given the fact that she was really hot with a tight (maybe teen) body.

Considering I had a business meeting at 7 am that day, I needed to go back to my 5 star hotel and get some sleep. I even tipped the girl 50 yuan just to ruin it for you local guys :) but i think she just what i needed after a long trip. (please understand I just arrived in Chendu 6 hours ago and checked the forum.

I went back to the place on a Friday night at 1130 am and th eplace was closed...all of them. Its like brigadoon. I know they were there but now closed. Maybe its too early, maybe the touts need to tell them to open it, or maybe it was the empy parked police car that was there but I saw not one of those little storefronts open.

Its ok, Prior to that on Friday night i went to the BBBJ that Streaycat described on the Binjjiang intersection location. They are there just as he mentioned but only 3 were open at that time. I notice that when I walked around the block for a recon that only 1 was open but then the other 2reopened again....after a few minutes. its all about timing and this was at around 9pm Friday. Went in and got a prettty one and did the 45 minute 50 yuan message in the back which is code for HandJob. The experience was GFE and I sprung for the 2 hour 100 Yuan instead. I asked if she did ST and she said she did not do anyhing at all but the HJ since she was a virgin. I kind of believed her since she did seemed eager to please. I let some steam off the pressure valve and I was a happy camper.

I'm thinking of checking out the railroad stations and even the YinShan Lu ones later this weekend. StrayCat, I owe you a drink if you around this weekend Dec 2-3.

WooVictor
01-02-07, 09:04
I made an overnight trip to Chengdu last week and had a reckless night under the influence of alcohol. It was really stupid of me, though luckily it seems I came out of it in one piece, without catching any STD.

After a whole afternoon’s meeting we (for a change, I was traveling with six colleagues) had a big feast with our clients, and I got quite drunk at dinner. I believe I had at least 10 little glasses of very strong Chinese liquor (said to be 52% proof), probably the most I’ve ever had in one sitting. While I still managed to check into my hotel safely, I wasn’t thinking with my big head. After sorting out my luggage in my room, I decided to go for a “sand-dancing,” something I had written about in early October in this thread. I had less than an hour, as I usually would call home shortly after 11pm whenever I traveled. Because I was kind of in a hurry, and because I was a bit drunk, I can’t remember all the details.

This time, I decided to try the Honghong Dance Hall, described by some Chinese websites as being the most seedy in town. It is located on Tongjinqiao Road (or the Tongjin bridge road), next to the Customs Department Building. I took a cab there, but could not find any sign for the Honghong Dance Hall. There was, however, a nightclub whose name now escapes me (all I can remember is that it seemed to have the word "blue" in its name). I asked the security guys at the door, and they confirmed that Honghong Dance Hall was indeed on the third floor.

I went up stairs, and paid the entrance fee (was it five yuan, or 3, I don't remember) at the door on the third floor. I walked inside, and saw quite a crowded place with a lot of people sitting at the 40-50 chairs and coffee tables near the entrance. On the left was the dance floor, and I could see more than 100 people dancing in the dark. The further I went inside the dance floor, the darker it became. Then I backed out a little, resisting the invitations from two women along the way. I was near the fringe of the dance floor, and I could barely discern the look of the girls around one.

One tall and slim girl near me seemed to be quite okay, so I led her into the dance floor. As soon as we were in the dark, my hands went inside her skirts to find her bare ass. May be she was wearing a crotchless underwear? She took the hint and started to lick my ears and fished out my dick. As my fingers found her ****, she suggested that we should go upstairs for a blowjob. I agreed, and we went out the door and walked up one floor.

The fourth floor seemed to be structured like a hotel floor, with a reception desk near the staircase and a few chairs and coffee tables near the reception area. I remember seeing may be five to six doors lined up beyond the reception area. My girl went to the reception desk, got a key and two glasses of water (one hot and one cold) from the receptionist, and led me into our room. Inside the room, probably about 10 square metres in size, there was a couch, a coffee table and a TV set. I slumped on the couch, and my girl kneeled in front of me, took my dick out and started to suck it, using the two glasses of water alternately. She sucked for about 10 to 15 minutes, and as I was still pretty drunk it was difficult for me to come. After a while I became a bit more conscious of my surroundings, and I could see that my girl was really not at all attractive. She must be over 30 years old, and had small tits (which she refused to expose completely). I decided I had enough, told her to stop, paid her what she asked for (150 yuan), and walked out of the room.

As I went down to the dance hall, I saw a plump girl in front of me, walking down the stairs to the dance hall. Perhpas she had just finished a job in the room next door? I followed her all the way into the dance floor, and suddenly I decided to have her. I put my hands on her waist, and pushed her into the darkness. She turned around and hugged me, and I grabbed her ass right away. Again she wasn’t wearing anything under her skirt, and I found her **** quickly. She responded by taking my dick out and stroking it. After a short while I asked if she had a condom. She said yes, and moved towards one of the pillars on the dance floor. Leaning with her back against the pillar, she wrapped my dick with a condom, and guided my dick into her ****. So there I was, fucking a fat girl in standing position in the dark, among may be 100 other men and women, some of whom were no doubt doing the same thing. I had no idea whether anyone noticed what I was doing, I surely didn’t notice what the others were doing.

After a few strokes I shot my load, and she eased my dick out of her ****. She then cleaned my dick with some paper towel, and zipped my fly. We stumbled out of the dance floor, and I paid her what she asked for (again 150 yuan), without even taking a clear look at her face. Then I rushed downstairs and caught a cab back to the hotel.

The next morning, I was supposed to visit my client’s factory with my colleagues. As I prepared to get dressed, I was shocked to see a lot of white stains at the crotch of my pants. Clearly they were my sperms – my girl obviously did a lousy job cleaning me up after the deed. I had no other pants to turn to – it was a short trip and I didn’t bring another suit. I tried to wipe the stains off with a wet towel, but it was useless. The stains were very visible on a pair of dark blue trousers. There was no other way except to send it to the dry cleaner, and that’s what I did. I also had to lie to my colleagues that I was not feeling well and must skip the factory visit. Luckily, the trousers came back at lunchtime, and I was able to catch my flight back home.

The moral of this story is that, if you really want to try it out at the Honghong Dance Hall, wear a pair of light colored pants. Better yet, don’t get drunk before you go.

According to this Chinese website that discussed sand-dancing in Chengdu, some girls charged as little as 50 yuan for a fuck at the Honghong Dance Hall. Both my girls asked for 150, and I was too drunk to bargain. Another interesting thing about the whole set up is that the room upstairs didn’t cost me anything, though I’m sure the girl had to pay for it somehow.

However, I suspect that if you don’t speak Chinese, you’ll find it difficult to negotiate. I’m curious whether any non-Chinese has every ventured there.

Cockburn
01-02-07, 17:36
Straycat,

You may be an asshole but then again so am I. I hate it when people say i did this blah blah blah and I posted that already. The truth is that information, particularly in China get olds fast. Updates on locations and prices is greatly appreciated. If you provide valuble info on addresses, prices and context, thats all i care about. I have been living "the life" for almost 10 years now in almost every asian country but when I get to a new `city i'm a newbie for the first 24 hours and rely on this info to catchup.What makes you think we would believe that you are not Straycat posing as another member?

Looks really suspicious for a Regular Member with the first post endorsing someone who had his posts deleted by Jackson and who had offended many Senior members on the ISG isn’t it?

If you are genuine than I am afraid to tell you this; “You had gone to the dark side! Turn around before you get totally consumed by it!”

CB

Travelin Guy
03-20-07, 13:53
I've been checking around here in Chengdu when time allows, and can confirm that Straycat was posting solid advice. Although some things have changed since last autumn, so for example the action out in the small park beneath the overpass of ShuiNianHeLu and the 2nd ring road is still there, but none of the girls were up to my lofty standards so I took a raincheck.

There are BBS shops in the side streets south of the train station, just to the west off of RenMinBeiLu but I encountered the same quality issues and took another raincheck.

I still need to investigate the area around and just east of XinHua Park.

The touts and pedicab drivers around the MinShan Hotel parking lot do have some acceptable talent within a phone call away. Had a delivery to the room a few evenings ago, and she was a cutie. Average height, nice C cups, about 21 yo. No BBBJ though, and she turned out to be a bit of a starfish. Allowed DATY and she was a tasty little treat, but even my best efforts couldn't get her to act very enthusiastic. She was also quite professional so after 1 pop, she was up to dispose of the condom, washed herself and was getting dressed all within 5 min. 300RMB + 20 for taxi so it was worth it, but wouldn't repeat.

I sure miss Maggies

El Frances
03-22-07, 15:04
I for shure don't miss the outrageous 1000 RMB price at Maggies, plus the outrageous price of drinks everybody tries to get from you as soon as you sit. OK, mongolian girls are very friendly, but it's really not worth the price.
Last time in Chengdu, I found quite nice young girls at the BBS alley near Jianzhong Hotel (including one of my best fuck in China). Some other menbers did not find anything worth there, maybe they did not come at the right time. At 9 pm, it was full of girls . Does this place still exist? I go to Chengdu in June and try to update my information.

Crazy Jim Wood
04-13-07, 19:50
See my report on this hotel:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=585653&postcount=2334

CJW

GeorgeAmerica
04-20-07, 04:44
Was in town last week, had to meet with a supplier. Following the meeting we had dinner and he wanted to take me to a KTV place. I asked if we could go someplace else, since I really hate the noise in KTV. I said how about a massage place where we could relax. He said he knew a great place. It's located in the same building as the carrefour in the south. When we got there, it was late, so it did not seem very busy. I think the only option is individual rooms, as I didn't see a waiting area. The room has a shower, wed bed with sprinklers on the sides, a sauna and separate bedroom. More like a 4 star hotel than a typical sauna.

They bring a line up to your door, if you don't like the first ones, send them away and they will send more. I chose a 23 yr old with natural 38C's from Chengdu. Shower and washed each other. The on to the spray bed. She puts the 38s to good use with a little milk as the massage lotion of choice. BBBJ on the spray bed while I fingered her. Then on to bed for more BBBJ then condom FS. Very active and yes she knows how to please.

Girl number: forgot
Girl 7/10
skills 9/10
Price: don't know the supplier paid but later told me it was about 600.
Would I return-yes

GeorgeAmerica
04-20-07, 21:01
I went back and found the girl. Everything I remember. Shower was fun and yes she likes to make sure you are clean in every way. Again I was her last of the night and my, what a girl. This time we finished showering and she said, so are you going to f*ck me or are we going to have some fun on the spray bed? I chose the bedroom and the exercise ball first, then cowgirl, doggie, missionary, back to cowgirl (she enjoyed cowgirl, came 2xs) and finished in missionary. She is a great girl, but now that I know her number, I can't give it out, as I want to enjoy her for myself for a little while. I will be here for another week and am hoping to enjoy her outside of her work. She told me that she usually does Chinese guys only and enjoys when I'm there because I'm different (read-foreigner). I will let you know how that goes. I'm leaving soon, as I have visited all of the suppliers. I will be back in 1 month (hopefully) and will give her number out after I return, but only if I have sampled all she has to offer by then.

Review:
Girl: 7 out of 10
Service: Every thing except anal and I didn't ask for that but I don't think she will do anal. 9 out of 10
Price: 640rmb-2 hours
Recommend a second time: Yes and a third and a fourth.
Find her yourself, but if you don't find her, I think all of the other girls there will definitely work to please.
Trust me, you go there and which ever girl you choose, you will not walk away disappointed.

Sorry I can't give details, but I want to enjoy this one myself for at least 1 more week.

Travelin Guy
04-21-07, 07:37
Hi George,

Tried to pm you, but your account isn't accepting pm's now.

I'm in Chengdu again for another week or so. I was hoping you could share the address of the GK sauna, or even just the street name. It would be nice to try it out and compare to the Waves Sauna in Shanghai, which I have enjoyed several times.

BTW, I'm free most every evening after 8:30, let me know if you're interested in hooking up for a beer. I usually go to the Shamrock irish bar or Dave's Oasis which is close to my hotel

you can pm me if you don't want to post back on the public board.

a fellow Yank

GeorgeAmerica
04-21-07, 16:37
The address is the fourth floor in the same building as the Carrefour Great World store. Tongzilin road. In the south part, close to China Garden apartments. If you get in a cab and say Da Shi Jie Jia Le Fu, the cabbie should take you to Carrefour. The sauna entrance is on your far right, right past the electric basketball game, if you are looking at the main entrance of Carrefour. You can't miss the neon lights at night.

Might see you this weekend at the rock.

Hope you enjoy.

Dirty Bug
04-22-07, 06:07
I made an overnight trip to Chengdu last week and had a reckless night under the influence of alcohol. It was really stupid of me, though luckily it seems I came out of it in one piece, without catching any STD.

After a whole afternoon’s meeting we (for a change, I was traveling with six colleagues) had a big feast with our clients, and I got quite drunk at dinner. I believe I had at least 10 little glasses of very strong Chinese liquor (said to be 52% proof), probably the most I’ve ever had in one sitting. While I still managed to check into my hotel safely, I wasn’t thinking with my big head. After sorting out my luggage in my room, I decided to go for a “sand-dancing,” something I had written about in early October in this thread. I had less than an hour, as I usually would call home shortly after 11pm whenever I traveled. Because I was kind of in a hurry, and because I was a bit drunk, I can’t remember all the details.

This time, I decided to try the Honghong Dance Hall, described by some Chinese websites as being the most seedy in town. It is located on Tongjinqiao Road (or the Tongjin bridge road), next to the Customs Department Building. I took a cab there, but could not find any sign for the Honghong Dance Hall. There was, however, a nightclub whose name now escapes me (all I can remember is that it seemed to have the word "blue" in its name). I asked the security guys at the door, and they confirmed that Honghong Dance Hall was indeed on the third floor.

I went up stairs, and paid the entrance fee (was it five yuan, or 3, I don't remember) at the door on the third floor. I walked inside, and saw quite a crowded place with a lot of people sitting at the 40-50 chairs and coffee tables near the entrance. On the left was the dance floor, and I could see more than 100 people dancing in the dark. The further I went inside the dance floor, the darker it became. Then I backed out a little, resisting the invitations from two women along the way. I was near the fringe of the dance floor, and I could barely discern the look of the girls around one.

One tall and slim girl near me seemed to be quite okay, so I led her into the dance floor. As soon as we were in the dark, my hands went inside her skirts to find her bare ass. May be she was wearing a crotchless underwear? She took the hint and started to lick my ears and fished out my dick. As my fingers found her ****, she suggested that we should go upstairs for a blowjob. I agreed, and we went out the door and walked up one floor.

The fourth floor seemed to be structured like a hotel floor, with a reception desk near the staircase and a few chairs and coffee tables near the reception area. I remember seeing may be five to six doors lined up beyond the reception area. My girl went to the reception desk, got a key and two glasses of water (one hot and one cold) from the receptionist, and led me into our room. Inside the room, probably about 10 square metres in size, there was a couch, a coffee table and a TV set. I slumped on the couch, and my girl kneeled in front of me, took my dick out and started to suck it, using the two glasses of water alternately. She sucked for about 10 to 15 minutes, and as I was still pretty drunk it was difficult for me to come. After a while I became a bit more conscious of my surroundings, and I could see that my girl was really not at all attractive. She must be over 30 years old, and had small tits (which she refused to expose completely). I decided I had enough, told her to stop, paid her what she asked for (150 yuan), and walked out of the room.

As I went down to the dance hall, I saw a plump girl in front of me, walking down the stairs to the dance hall. Perhpas she had just finished a job in the room next door? I followed her all the way into the dance floor, and suddenly I decided to have her. I put my hands on her waist, and pushed her into the darkness. She turned around and hugged me, and I grabbed her ass right away. Again she wasn’t wearing anything under her skirt, and I found her **** quickly. She responded by taking my dick out and stroking it. After a short while I asked if she had a condom. She said yes, and moved towards one of the pillars on the dance floor. Leaning with her back against the pillar, she wrapped my dick with a condom, and guided my dick into her ****. So there I was, fucking a fat girl in standing position in the dark, among may be 100 other men and women, some of whom were no doubt doing the same thing. I had no idea whether anyone noticed what I was doing, I surely didn’t notice what the others were doing.

After a few strokes I shot my load, and she eased my dick out of her ****. She then cleaned my dick with some paper towel, and zipped my fly. We stumbled out of the dance floor, and I paid her what she asked for (again 150 yuan), without even taking a clear look at her face. Then I rushed downstairs and caught a cab back to the hotel.

The next morning, I was supposed to visit my client’s factory with my colleagues. As I prepared to get dressed, I was shocked to see a lot of white stains at the crotch of my pants. Clearly they were my sperms – my girl obviously did a lousy job cleaning me up after the deed. I had no other pants to turn to – it was a short trip and I didn’t bring another suit. I tried to wipe the stains off with a wet towel, but it was useless. The stains were very visible on a pair of dark blue trousers. There was no other way except to send it to the dry cleaner, and that’s what I did. I also had to lie to my colleagues that I was not feeling well and must skip the factory visit. Luckily, the trousers came back at lunchtime, and I was able to catch my flight back home.

The moral of this story is that, if you really want to try it out at the Honghong Dance Hall, wear a pair of light colored pants. Better yet, don’t get drunk before you go.

According to this Chinese website that discussed sand-dancing in Chengdu, some girls charged as little as 50 yuan for a fuck at the Honghong Dance Hall. Both my girls asked for 150, and I was too drunk to bargain. Another interesting thing about the whole set up is that the room upstairs didn’t cost me anything, though I’m sure the girl had to pay for it somehow.

However, I suspect that if you don’t speak Chinese, you’ll find it difficult to negotiate. I’m curious whether any non-Chinese has every ventured there.Thanks for showing this wonderful place. Was there 2 weeks ago during a bussiness trip, unfortunately was late 11:30pm to reach that place. Hong Hong closed at 12pm sharp, saw lots of guys getting gals out from the dance floor heading down. Look like taking them back to hotel, will try again next time when I visit Chengdu.

Travelin Guy
04-28-07, 06:58
George, thanks for posting the address of the sauna, I'll make a point of visiting it before I leave Chengdu and post my impressions here.

I've been keeping busy lately with a freebie I pulled in from the AFF site. Most of the girls I've met on there are the type that really just want a boyfriend or a language exchange partner, without the benefits the readers of this board are interested in. I finally found a 28 yo cutie who was just as interested in sex as in the other stuff like having coffee, dinner, drinks, etc. We had several great sessions together and she likes to stay the night in the hotel with me which has been great, but she started getting sticky after a week or so. Guess the NSA thing can only last so long, I'll probably have to cut her loose soon.

Member #4530
05-02-07, 06:40
Never been to this part of China before. I have a quick business meeting and a single night in Chengdu. Am staying at the Crowne Plaza.

Can I expect this hotel to offer ladies that come to the room?

Can I bring a lady back to the room? Say one from Honghong Dance Hall?

Any other recommendations to make this night fun? I'm hoping to get two or three in before my morning flight.

Thanks much any info!
waffles

GeorgeAmerica
05-03-07, 04:25
The massage parlor in the basement provides girls. Some are VERY good, but it is expensive (at least 800 to 1000rmb). As far as bringing girls to your room, don't know, but probably not a big issue. There are plenty of guys standing out front by the road handing out cards. These guys can arrange a girl for you and will deliver to the hotel. Past experience cost is about 400rmb for ST. No need to follow them, just tell them to bring them for you to see. If you don't like 1, they will bring others - all by taxi.

Member #4530
05-04-07, 07:28
Thanks GeorgeAmerica. If I get ladies from the tout on street, will the Crowne Plaza give me any difficulties walking her through the lobby?

I was in a hotel in Xi'an recently they gave me a very hard time about this.

I greatly appreciate the info!

Waffles

Legendary
05-10-07, 01:18
Will be there for 4 days. Please update any new places, guys. Been looking back at some of the posts here.

Jacky8850
05-13-07, 12:05
The massage parlor in the basement provides girls. Some are VERY good, but it is expensive (at least 800 to 1000rmb). As far as bringing girls to your room, don't know, but probably not a big issue. There are plenty of guys standing out front by the road handing out cards. These guys can arrange a girl for you and will deliver to the hotel. Past experience cost is about 400rmb for ST. No need to follow them, just tell them to bring them for you to see. If you don't like 1, they will bring others - all by taxi.This is the only way in Chengdu.

All hotels have massage parlors, they all give service but ask everything infront, also the card girls, ask always before paying ( suck, anal, ect )

Freebees you can find in cybercafe's and by McD or StarB, just try they don't bite, )), i notice that many girls would like to run from Chengdu, not much to do there for them.

Good luck to you all

Farmer Joe
05-31-07, 14:53
Stayed at the Sheraton in Chengdu a couple of months ago. Called room service massage, had a girl in my room five minutes later. Without further ado, explained to me that she would take off her clothes and play for RMB 2,000! What ensued then was a long and drawn out negotiation, whith me starting at RMB 400 and us finally settling at RMB 700. Service was mediocre at best. I should have kicked her out instead of negotiating, the little slag!

Maybe not all girls there are like that, but heard a similar story from friends. They have touts outside the hotel, but they don't do room-service, can't get past security (who protect the local monopoly I guess).

The lesson here is not to stay at the Sheraton if you want in-hotel action.

Me Myself
06-01-07, 17:40
I will be in town on Tuesday for an ~10 day trip. I speak no Mandarin so my task to find some good mongering will be more difficult but I hope it is successful. If any other mongers from this board are in town drop me a note and maybe we can have a drink, find some girls.

Ciao,

MeMyself

El Frances
06-04-07, 14:03
The only good place I know is the BBS alley near Jianzhong Hotel (see previous post for location, price should be 150 ST plus taxi money. I will arrive this saturday in chengdu, not very available, but maybe we can do something together.
PS The girls sold for 400 yuan by touts in the street don't get a share higher than 200 Yuan. Maybe it can be negotiated to 300.
Enjoy it!

Tors Ham
06-04-07, 17:28
I will be in town on Tuesday for an ~10 day trip. I speak no Mandarin so my task to find some good mongering will be more difficult but I hope it is successful. If any other mongers from this board are in town drop me a note and maybe we can have a drink, find some girls.

Ciao,

MeMyselfHi,

I am gone by then.

But search for what they call music square, its packet with dancing places, pubs and hot girls.

Don’t tip the bartenders; they don’t like that for some reason (this is China)

Sorry I can’t give the exact location but its close a bridge crossing the river.

I know there are lot of rivers and bridges in town, but I think finding that area shouldn’t be that difficult.

If I don’t remember wrong there is a big Hotel on the other side of the street and behind that it’s a row of bars to, but I am not 100% sure about that.

Its freebie hunting ground, but my +60, fat, bold, short not so handsome buddy managed to score with a 24 year old school teacher that was damn hot so nothing is impossible there.

It’s a good place to party and to find Chinese girls that can talk some English or at least try to.

They will probably invite you to drink with them, (they hunt you in fact :)

pidjo = beer :)

Have a nice trip.

TH

Tors Ham
06-04-07, 17:47
I will be in town on Tuesday for an ~10 day trip. I speak no Mandarin so my task to find some good mongering will be more difficult but I hope it is successful. If any other mongers from this board are in town drop me a note and maybe we can have a drink, find some girls.

Ciao,

MeMyselfHi,

Forgot

The Dynasty Hotel has a sauna

Just take left at the panda and the stairway down. (Opposite the main entrance)
OK selection of girls and I think it was 6 or 650 for the special massage.

TH

Me Myself
06-04-07, 18:58
Thanks for the info.

If you want we can hang out, grab a beer and go hunting for some pussy!

Ace of Spades
06-05-07, 17:19
Where can I find the Catacombs? I am planning a trip fairly soon. I am in Guangdong province now. I have been coming to China for several years now, but I have never seen anything as interesting as the pictures shown in a previous posting.

Is it really 30 RMB per fuck? Sounds too good to be true.

I will keep an open mind for now, somebody shoot me a reply and give some directions.

GeorgeAmerica
06-06-07, 02:40
There is a huge music complex called 玉林生活广场, (yulin shenghuo guangchang) bars like Music House and Empty Bottle. The place is on second ring road at the intersection of south yu lin road (玉林南路)。 Don't know how much success you will have, but it is definitely a possibility. Just down from there is also dance clubs - Babi and Mix and success is a definite possibility there also, but the music is loud.

I think TH was talking about an area with Babi II and other dance clubs. That area is on first ring road, very close to Sichuan Univesity main gate. It is right before you cross the river on your right if you are coming from Sichuan University.

Freebies are available, you just have to work for them.

OldAsiaHand
06-06-07, 06:08
Are you referrring to the catacombs in CP? Why is your post on the Chengdu thread> I suggest you run a thread search on the Dongguan thread. Directions have been posted several times, including myself.

Yes, one pop for 15-20 minutes is only 30 RMB, but all the girls may not service foreigners for that price.

OAH



Where can I find the Catacombs? I am planning a trip fairly soon. I am in Guangdong province now. I have been coming to China for several years now, but I have never seen anything as interesting as the pictures shown in a previous posting.

Is it really 30 RMB per fuck? Sounds too good to be true.

I will keep an open mind for now, somebody shoot me a reply and give some directions.

Matsu69
06-08-07, 20:18
i'm currently on a swing through central and southern china for work. started in chongqing where i had a great time. then on to chengdu figuring it would be just as good. boy was i sadly mistaken.

staying near the 2nd outer ring road and intersection with renminlu. after reading some of the historical posts, i figured i would look for something on the cheap. headed to a bbs right around the corner from the hotel on the south side of 2nd outer ring rd. stuck my head in and asked in my best mandarin "how much" (that's a joke, 'cause my mandarin sucks). girl behind the counter said 50rmb. i figured "sweet, this is better pricing than i though". so i went upstairs with a cutie that couldn't have been more than 19.

get upstairs and she pulled my shirt off and kissed my chest. then lays me down and asks me what i want. i'm like, wait a sec i thought it was 50. she explained to me that was the price for the room, but i needed to negotiate separately with her. f*ck. i hate that sh*t! shoulda known better and asked exactly what was in the works downstairs.

oh well. too late now, i'll take my lumps and try to turn this into an ok situation. she is pretty cute after all, but i could tell this was not going to end well. as we talked, she was copping a sh*tty attitude.

so i ask how much for a blow and she says 100. then i asked her how much if i wanted fs. she told me 300. i countered with 200 for fs, and all of a sudden she comes back with 200 for bj! wtf? ! wasn't it just 100 for bj and she said well it is 200 now.

needless to say i put my shirt and shoes on and got the f*ck outta dodge. she was bitching the whole way down the stairs. get to the front and pay the 50 for the room. girl behind counter asks what the problem is and i told her that we couldn't come to an agreement. girl is still bitching in the background in local language. knew it was best for me to just bail so i did.

kinda late and figured i would try for a sure thing. headed down the road to a place i had seen at dinner. it is a spa called noblemen club. it is on renminlu south of the 2nd ring road, in the 4th floor of the lion pavillion building. had already checked it out and it looked pretty nice, but pricey. 610rmb for full service and 90 minutes.

headed up and they remembered me from my previous peek in. they told me to come on in. took me to a huge room with a king size swinging bed. also had bars over the top with slings attached to it for the chengdu version of the red rope. then brought in a tall girl that was a little thick with small tits. waved her off and asked for tall with big boobs.

next in came 2 girls both were at least 170cm tall and had pretty good racks. i chose one that was about a 6 face with dd's. honestly the biggest tits i have seen in asia. well everything was pretty typical service. shower together, over to bed, cat bath, followed by something called "dabao" (slippery shit) on the back and a titty massage. then it came time for the good stuff.

she started bbbj, and a little fire and ice. then she asked if i wanted the swing only catch was it was 100rmb extra. wtf? i thought this was full service for 610! passed on the swingset.

she then put the jimmy hat on me. climbed on and was surprisingly wet. she was pretty tight, so it wasn't long before i was ready to unload. let go with round one with about 45 minutes to go.

she suggested we jump into the shower to clean up. showered and went back to the bed. she asked if i wanted a massage. never turn that down. she gave a 5 minute back rub and flips me over. then starts paying particular attention to my buddy. pretty soon he is standing at attention again.

i figure i'll start on top this time, so i roll over and start looking for another jimmy hat. she she stops me and said i already had my 1 pop. if i want another, it will be 200 more. wtf? ! ?

i have never been to a timed spa session where it is just one pop! f*ck this! i've resolved that there is nfw i am paying any more than the already overpriced 610 quoted at the front. i let her massage my back for about another 25 minutes until time was up. dressed paid and got out.

nobleman club. high quality place. one of the cleanest spa's i've been to in china. nice rooms, presumably big bath area althogh i didn't investigate i saw pictures. interestingly, they had uncensored chinese porn playing on the tv. never seen that before!

girl - chengdu girl, can't remember name or number
face - 6
body - 6 great tits, nice *ss, little flab around the waist
attitude - 7, a bit clinical, like she was running through a checklist of things to do, decent service
bbbj - 6, not bad have had better
fs - 6, nice and tight. moves ok, but still just a 6.
overall experience - 6, great beginning, the money talk during kind of made everything a buzzkill. never got my second nut though.
would i go back - nfw

the good - i found a place not previously reported on in the forum.
the bad - every other f*cking thing about this pos city.

i guess i have gotten spoiled by waves and shanghai hotel both in shanghai. both places where full service means full f*cking service!!! no compromise and no additional charges.

tomorrow i'll hit the local bars and see if i can score some amateur talent. no more p4p bs in chengdu. hope things are better in the south!

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Matsu69
06-10-07, 08:22
Per previous post, had a sh*t time in Chengdu last night. Decided to head out to bar scene for a look. Ended up a Babi on 2nd Ring Road. Some real lookers in the place, but by the time I got there though almost all were hooked up.

Decided to head back to hotel. I was staying at Keminski so I already knew anything there would be upscale but more than likely English speaking. Checked the patio bar. But it seemed pretty dead. Bunch of wanna be singers hanging with the Phil band inside but all were chubby. Pass

Had seen the signs for the nightclub on 3F. Decided to check it out.

Talked to doorman to get the layout (this is actually my first nightclub visit in Asia). KTV rooms all around the perimiter with the central room containing a large stage for singers with lots of tables and lots of girls.

No setting fee in main room. You pay for what you order. Sit down fee for girls is 300. Manager also told me girls can go up to your room for 1200 ST (1 pop) or 1800 all night. I'm pretty sure the club gets a significant portion.

I opted for the sitdown service. Girl named Wiwi from Hubei. Grad student at Sichuan University. 172cm tall and thin. Small up top but a fine ass. She spoke passable English and had a great attitude.

Sat for a while and ordered some food and drinks. Pretty soon club was emptying out. They close at midnight. So I asked Wiwi if she wanted to head upstairs. She was pretty aggressive and said not to let the manager know or it would be 1200 ST, but she was good to go for 600 if I met her in the lobby in 20 minutes.

Paid my tab at the nightclub, left and sure enough in 20 minutes Wiwi showed up in low cut jeans and a tank top. She seemed eager to get upstairs, so we went.

In talking I learned that she had only been with Chinese guys and I was her first foreigner. She seemd pretty curious. In fact when I undressed for the shower, she spent considerable time admiring the equipment and said she was not sure how much she could take, but she definitely was interested in trying.

Down to business. She really liked DFK and we made out for a while. Then she made a half hearted attempt at BBBJ. Definitely nothing to write home about. Now it was my turn. As I moved in for some much anticipated DATY she made no attempt to push me away. (She later confirmed it was her first DATY as Chinese guys never do that, but she had always wanted to try). She was quite reactive. Clamping her legs around my head causing me to dive deeper. Within about 2 minutes, she came.

Then she started pulling me up saying she wanted me now. I told her to relax that I wanted to take my time. She just smiled and said "yes, you are right. Take your time. " And then pushed my head back down for more DATY. OK. So this girl definitely liked the program.

After she came 2 more times, I figured it was time to head back up north where I found her red faced and completely out of breath with a very surprised look on her face.

I asked her if she wanted more and she said "yes, but I want you first". She started pulling at my didi with one hand while reaching for a rubber with the other hand. Slipped the jimmy hat on and guided me into her.

I was moving really slowly and she kept trying to pull me deeper. I told her to relax because I was only about 1/3 into her. Her her jaw dropped and she started pulling me in harder and wrapped her legs around my back. When I finally did bottom out, she came again.

I was a little drunk so I could last quite a while. We went for at least 45 minutes in several different positions. She came at least 4 more times before we finished. I figured she would shower and head out, but to my surprise after we came out of the shower, she hopped into the bed and said "let's sleep, we can go again in the morning". A little surprised, I reconfirmed our original deal and price 600 for ST. She said if I didn't mind she wanted to stay. Needless to say we woke up this morning and did the deed again with very similar results. Then we headed down and had breakfast at the hotel restaurant before she left.

Ratings:
Night Club - Very upscale. Awesome looking women. 7's and 8's with occasional 9's. (Where the F*CK do these girls hide out?
Girl - 8, Wiwi 24 yo grad student from Hubei
Face - 7.5 in the club (too much makeup) 8 in the morning without the makeup.
Body - 8, 172cm, slender body Small tits, ass as fine as wine.
Service - 8.5 - Outstanding, would have gotten a 9 or 9.5 with even a decent BJ. Too bad, cant have everything, right?
BJ - 1.0, Well at least it was BBBJ. But it was really weak.
FS - 9 - Very nice. Definitely worth the price.
Attitude - 10, this girl was smart and very cool.
GFE - 10, After 2nd round of DATY last night she joked with me and said she wanted to be my wife.
Damage - 900 (600 direct to the girl + 300 for sitting fee at the club) I know too much, but I would go back for more.

Would I return - Yes, but I got her phone # and email so I don't have to go to the club again. I'm pretty sure I could turn this one into a freebie pretty quickly if I was here more.

Santa
06-10-07, 18:55
Matsu69. I think in both situations your difficulties were caused by your inability to communicate up front. You need to always clearly establish exactly what is being provided for the agreed price.

Crazy Jim Wood
06-10-07, 19:00
I've gotten a freebie at the Empty Bottle. She was very traditional (4 dates before sex).
There is a huge music complex called 玉林生活广场, (yulin shenghuo guangchang) bars like Music House and Empty Bottle. The place is on second ring road at the intersection of south yu lin road (玉林南路)。 Don't know how much success you will have, but it is definitely a possibility. Just down from there is also dance clubs - Babi and Mix and success is a definite possibility there also, but the music is loud.

I think TH was talking about an area with Babi II and other dance clubs. That area is on first ring road, very close to Sichuan Univesity main gate. It is right before you cross the river on your right if you are coming from Sichuan University.

Freebies are available, you just have to work for them.

El Frances
06-11-07, 05:58
OK, Chengdu doesn't suck but it's not as easy than in other places. With MeMyself (another member) we tried the BBS alley near Jianzhong Hotel I used to go to two years ago. It's now completely dead. Shops are closed, probably because of the police. Don't go there any more!

Even the stouts in front of Crowne Plaza are rare now. They seem to show up only late, maybe not every night. We found one on Saturday night and ordered two girls for 400 Yuan ST each. Rather than have him send girls to the rooms, we sat outside to see them before. It was a good idea because we had to send one back because she was too fat. Finally we got two girls I would rate 7 on Asian standards. It's convenient but always frustrating to know that you have paid a 200 Yuan commission to intermediaries.
Yesterday, I did not find touts so I phoned to a phone number on a the card given the day before by the tout to have a girl come to my room. A previous post was right: they send first a girl who is not beautifull. If you use this solution, you must plan you will have to send back the first girl.

If someone knows precisely how to get the same type of girls (young: 18 to 22 years old, slim, firm body) without paying double price as we did, it's welcomed!

PS The question was asked before: Yes, the Crowne Plaza is GF!

Matsu69
06-16-07, 15:30
Ratings:
Night Club - Very upscale. Awesome looking women. 7's and 8's with occasional 9's. (Where the F*CK do these girls hide out?
Girl - 8, Wiwi 24 yo grad student from Hubei
Face - 7.5 in the club (too much makeup) 8 in the morning without the makeup.
Body - 8, 172cm, slender body Small tits, ass as fine as wine.
Service - 8.5 - Outstanding, would have gotten a 9 or 9.5 with even a decent BJ. Too bad, cant have everything, right?
BJ - 1.0, Well at least it was BBBJ. But it was really weak.
FS - 9 - Very nice. Definitely worth the price.
Attitude - 10, this girl was smart and very cool.
GFE - 10, After 2nd round of DATY last night she joked with me and said she wanted to be my wife.
Damage - 900 (600 direct to the girl + 300 for sitting fee at the club) I know too much, but I would go back for more.

Would I return - Yes, but I got her phone # and email so I don't have to go to the club again. I'm pretty sure I could turn this one into a freebie pretty quickly if I was here more.Forgot to post this girl's pic last week. Here it is.

Oakley08
08-03-07, 12:05
Forgot to post this girl's pic last week. Here it is.Going to Chengdu in a couple weeks. You care to share the phone number of Wiwi? :)

Dick Hertz 99
09-24-07, 18:41
The massage parlor in the basement provides girls. Some are VERY good, but it is expensive (at least 800 to 1000rmb). As far as bringing girls to your room, don't know, but probably not a big issue. There are plenty of guys standing out front by the road handing out cards. These guys can arrange a girl for you and will deliver to the hotel. Past experience cost is about 400rmb for ST. No need to follow them, just tell them to bring them for you to see. If you don't like 1, they will bring others - all by taxi.Just tried this place. Was presented with 3 girls, picked the best looking one. Take her to the room upstairs (they actually give 80% discount for the house fees if you are hotel guest).

Jiminfo2000
10-05-07, 18:10
I will be arriving in Chengdu in the next couple of weeks and I have 2 nights in town. What is the best recommendation for a first time traveller for those two nights. I will be staying at the Crown Plaza, I do not speak any Chinese.

Thanks

Oakley08
10-09-07, 04:41
I will be arriving in Chengdu in the next couple of weeks and I have 2 nights in town. What is the best recommendation for a first time traveller for those two nights. I will be staying at the Crown Plaza, I do not speak any Chinese.

ThanksI will be there the middle of November. Tou? Maybe we can meet up. Strength in numbers right?

Leveller
10-11-07, 17:30
A report of my ramblings in Chengdu and environs, early september. In Chengdu I stayed in the Prime hotel, a nice enough hotel for the budget-minded. Fastfood outlets nearby.

I went twice to their massage floor. The first time I asked for a special massage, and was offered a VIP massage. Was ushered to a nice room with shower, and shown a line-up of 6 girls, all of which I didn't like very much; then papa brought in a younger girl from Chengdu, with a very nice, soft, yet firm, 100% natural pair of pear-shaped breasts. Showered together, then on to bed, BBBJ, fire&ice, the lot. Enjoyable session, costs: 728RMB.

Now, on my second visit, I asked for a special massage again, but this time was lead to the other side of the massage-lobby, and entered a normal massage joint, that is, public shower first, and then go to the room. Room was older, but ok. Line-up showed 5 girls, amongst which the one from the first report. I decided not to repeat, but chose a tall, slender girl, with long, curly hair. Not a word of English (and me no Chinese), but fortunately we got on with sign-language and laughs. Nice girl and very affectionate. CBJ. Again a nice session, costs: 600RMB.

I guess the first massage was in the newer Ginza wing, and the second in the older Prime wing; anyhoo, FS massage can be had here for 600RMB.

On another night I ventured out to Xinhua park; had a bit of trouble finding the massage-places, but as was said in more recent posts, just go out of the north entrance of the park, cross the road and walk east. Soon enough you will be welcomed by welcome-boys (errr ...) to come and enter their joints. I entered one, sat down and waited for line-up. Three girls were shown and they looked like total hookers, oldish, tubby and very heavy make-up. Asked if I could see some others. Time past by, I was offered a tea, and after a while two younger girls were lead in. Again, they were heavily made-up, but one was nice, slim and spunky and spoke a few words of English. Off we go to a bare room, but with shower. BBBJ, and enjoyable session. Costs: 200RMB.

On another occasion I walked south from the railway station, and found many BBS (as reported in an earlier report) on the west-side of the road. None did look very inviting to me, as it was still daytime and the pavement was bustling with everyday people going their way, but they're there.

For the tourists amongst us (that includes me), if you want to see the big buddha at Dafo, you go to Leshan. So did I, and planning to see it the next day, I had some time left, and went out to look for a BBS. I stayed in the area bordered by the two rivers, the tourist area. I asked a pedicab driver if he can find me 'ang mo'. Well, he certainly tried his best. We drove through the area, all the while the driver asking/shouting out loud to his friends/colleagues (and to all people on the streets) where the laowai could get ang mo. Fortunately, it was raining, so ample reason for me to hide for cover, and not a lot of people on the street either. Eventually, my driver found a place. Bare room, no shower, the girl looked ok, but would not take of her clothes. I got put off, and did the deed, done cheap: 200RMB. Not recommended. I guess the newer part of Leshan has more on offer.

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Oakley08
10-16-07, 03:16
I will be in and around Chengdu from Nov 17th to 26th. Staying at Kempinski Hotel. Wingmen are welcome.

I will be sure to report back afterwards.

WooVictor
10-31-07, 11:56
I was in Chengdu for a couple of nights last week, staying at the newly opened Shangri-La, a great hotel as always. The first evening, I was on my own after a number of meetings in the afternoon, and decided to go the Coral Sea Spa Club at Wucheng dajie in city centre, just a few minutes by car from the Shangri La. I read about this place some months ago in some Chinese websites for mongers, and thought it was worth a try. Although I’ve been to Chengdu quite a few times over the past couple of years, I’ve relied mostly on the in-room services at the hotels where I was staying.

The Coral Sea is located on the third floor of a new commercial building. It has its own entrance near a big restaurant. It is quit new and luxuriously decorated in some strangely Franco-Roman style that is all the rage in China now, if you know what I mean. There are two services, a “spa” or “water” treatment, and a “massage” service. The first costs something like 128 yuan, if my memory doesn’t fail me, and the second costs 688 yuan (discounted from the “original” price of 860 yuan. If you don’t do the spa treatment, there is an 88 yuan shower fee. In addition, the disposable pajama sets you back another 28 yuan.

As soon as I arrived at the entrance, the receptionists ushered me up through a private elevator. I removed my shoes at the reception hall on the third floor, and then stripped in the changing room. A waiter gave me what looked like a pair of disposable swimming trunks, which I put on. He then led me into bath area, where there was a sizeable hot pool in the middle. Surrounding the pool were about a dozen bathtubs, and a waiter was filling up one of them. He explained that the “spa” treatment consisted of two steps, soaking in the bathtub, and then a back-rubbing by a young girl. I wasn’t really comfortable with the idea of soaking myself in a public bathtub, even though the place looked very clean to me. I passed, and opted for a quick shower instead. Afterwards, a girl appeared in the bath area and led me to the “back-rubbing” section.

The back-rubbing section comprised about six or seven small rooms. Inside each room was a massage bed and a shower facility. My back-rubbing girl, who stood not even five feet, told me to get on the bed face down. I did as instructed, and she gently removed my swimming trunks. She then turned on the shower, tested the water temperature on me for approval, and then sprayed me thoroughly with the shower. She then applied some salt on my body, and then rubbed away. After a thorough rubbing, she washed the salt away. Then she applied some bath gel on me, and washed it away afterwards. I was then told to turn, and the whole process was repeated one more time. I had had a similar “salt bath” in Changsha about a year or two ago, and it was pretty much the same thing. There’s nothing really unusual here, and in fact I’d say that my girl didn’t give sufficient attention to my little brother. When I had that “salt bath” (actually the establishment named it Turkish bath, but I really have no idea how Turkish it was) in Changsha, the girl took very good care of my little brother, giving me one of the best and longest handjobs of my life without making me come. She was under strict instruction not to do so, as the boss wanted to make sure that customers would then go upstairs for a more thorough handjob or tits-job.

Anyway, I finished the “spa” treatment, moved on to the lounge area for a little bit of rest, and then went on for the “massage” treatment. I was led into a room, of decent size and nicely decorated as a standard hotel room with a king-size bed in the middle and mirrors all over, including the ceiling. There was an en-suite shower room, separated from the bedroom by a glass wall. In a few minutes a pretty girl showed up. She had long hair and a “classical” Chinese face, which I quite liked, and so I decided to take her. I’m sure you can change if you don’t like the girl that’s offered to you. (Apparently, the establishment puts the masseuses’ photos on TV and you can choose your girl from their private channel, which also shows some Japanese adult movies. However, I was not offered this option and I didn’t remember this point until after I left).

She showered me first before giving me the “massage” treatment – though in my view she didn’t give me what I call a genuine massage. The whole treatment probably consisted of 10 steps, beginning with the standard “round the world cat bath” followed by the sucking of fingers and toes. There was of course rimming and blowjob with ice and fire.

Two steps were a bit unusual. In the first, she inserted a small vibrator (probably 12-15 cm long, not very thick) into my backend. It took a little time for her to insert the whole thing into me, and I must say the sensation was quite okay, though I’m definitely not gay. And yes they were very concerned about safe sex and a condom was used. The vibrator is increasingly popular now but still only a minority of of sauna establishments have this service.

In the second, a set of anal beads (five of them, connected with some nylon string, not very big, again covered in condom) was inserted into my backend. After all five beads had gone in, she took a straw and blew some ice water into the condom. A cold sensation arose in my rear, a very strange feeling indeed. I'd say it's worth trying unless you're total against the idea of putting your backend at the mercy of a young girl.

After the whole “service” procedure, it was time for the real thing, which was quite good. She then showered me before I left. All in all, a worthwhile one-and-half hour experience for just over 800 yuan. I can see myself going back.

WooVictor
10-31-07, 12:04
On my second night in Chengdu, I thought that I needed a genuine massage before going to sleep. I checked the hotel directory and found that the Shangri-La had a spa named “Chi” but that it had closed at 11pm, almost an hour ago. A bit discouraged, I nevertheless called up the operator and asked if there was still massage service, and she transferred my call to the massage centre. A woman picked up the phone at the other end, and promised to send me a girl right away for 198 yuan per 45-minute session.

Presently, a pretty young girl who looked barely 20 knocked on my door and I admitted her in. She was dressed in white, a pair of pants and a V-neck T shirt that showed a bit of her tits. After a bit of preparation she got me to climb on the bed face down and began to give me an oil massage. During the massage we had a great conversation about herself and the hotel. Over time I realized that she looked very much like my first girl friend, especially her eyes and her month (but only when she smiled). Predictably, I was increasingly attracted by her and eventually grew to desire her.

She told me that her name was Xie Yan and had just turned 21. She was from Leshan (famous for its 70-metre high Buddha statue) and had studied tourism at school and just been to Guangdong (Huizhou) for a one-year internship in the business centre of a hotel. However, when she returned to Sichuan she decided to come to the Chengdu Shangri-La to work as a masseuse because the hotel salary, at about 1,500 yuan, was too low. I didn’t ask how much she made as a masseuse. The massage service was offered by the beauty parlour at some remote corner on the first floor of the hotel (I hadn’t noticed it when I went to the first floor for breakfast and to search for a post card). She said that the Chi spa only offered straight spa and massage service and its masseuses could not go up to the guest rooms. Apparently the Chi had masseurs who could go up to guest rooms, but they are definitely not my cup of tea. (I’ve never had a massage by a man).

According to her, the hotel management has a deal with the beauty parlour boss to allow his masseuses to provide room service, on condition that they wear white uniforms that is not too revealing. She then tried to sell me a full service for 1,000 yuan. She didn’t need to do much selling, and I agreed without bargaining. I mean, how can you haggle over price with your first girl friend. Also, the other five star hotels in Chengdu (such as Sheraton and Crowne Plaza) are charging something like 1,200-1,500 yuan.

We went to the bathroom for a shower together. As I hugged her and washed her private part, I could tell that she was getting aroused. I kissed her on the cheeks, and was soon able to make my way to her lips. She didn’t put up much resistance to my French kissing, though I must say she’s got a lot to learn.

We returned to bed, and I quickly examined her labia, which were very fresh and pink. Somehow I didn’t get down for a big feast, though I would do so once in a while and hers were definitely well qualified. It was clear that she only knew the basic skills of pleasing a man, but I was more than happy to be a tutor. Sex was fantastic, bringing back all the memories of my first girlfriend, with whom I’ve lost touch for more than 10 years.

After the deed, we washed briefly and cuddled in bed. I asked if she could stay overnight, and she said it would cost 2,000 yuan. Given that it was almost 2am, I thought it was not worth it. She then gave me her phone number and promised that she would skip work next time I came. How nice of her!

Erik
11-01-07, 08:05
On my second night in Chengdu, I thought that I needed a genuine massage before going to sleep. I checked the hotel directory and found that the Shangri-La had a spa named “Chi” but that it had closed at 11pm, almost an hour ago. A bit discouraged, I nevertheless called up the operator and asked if there was still massage service, and she transferred my call to the massage centre. A woman picked up the phone at the other end, and promised to send me a girl right away for 198 yuan per 45-minute session.

Presently, a pretty young girl who looked barely 20 knocked on my door and I admitted her in. She was dressed in white, a pair of pants and a V-neck T shirt that showed a bit of her tits. After a bit of preparation she got me to climb on the bed face down and began to give me an oil massage. During the massage we had a great conversation about herself and the hotel. Over time I realized that she looked very much like my first girl friend, especially her eyes and her month (but only when she smiled). Predictably, I was increasingly attracted by her and eventually grew to desire her.

She told me that her name was Xie Yan and had just turned 21. She was from Leshan (famous for its 70-metre high Buddha statue) and had studied tourism at school and just been to Guangdong (Huizhou) for a one-year internship in the business centre of a hotel. However, when she returned to Sichuan she decided to come to the Chengdu Shangri-La to work as a masseuse because the hotel salary, at about 1,500 yuan, was too low. I didn’t ask how much she made as a masseuse. The massage service was offered by the beauty parlour at some remote corner on the first floor of the hotel (I hadn’t noticed it when I went to the first floor for breakfast and to search for a post card). She said that the Chi spa only offered straight spa and massage service and its masseuses could not go up to the guest rooms. Apparently the Chi had masseurs who could go up to guest rooms, but they are definitely not my cup of tea. (I’ve never had a massage by a man).

According to her, the hotel management has a deal with the beauty parlour boss to allow his masseuses to provide room service, on condition that they wear white uniforms that is not too revealing. She then tried to sell me a full service for 1,000 yuan. She didn’t need to do much selling, and I agreed without bargaining. I mean, how can you haggle over price with your first girl friend. Also, the other five star hotels in Chengdu (such as Sheraton and Crowne Plaza) are charging something like 1,200-1,500 yuan.

We went to the bathroom for a shower together. As I hugged her and washed her private part, I could tell that she was getting aroused. I kissed her on the cheeks, and was soon able to make my way to her lips. She didn’t put up much resistance to my French kissing, though I must say she’s got a lot to learn.

We returned to bed, and I quickly examined her labia, which were very fresh and pink. Somehow I didn’t get down for a big feast, though I would do so once in a while and hers were definitely well qualified. It was clear that she only knew the basic skills of pleasing a man, but I was more than happy to be a tutor. Sex was fantastic, bringing back all the memories of my first girlfriend, with whom I’ve lost touch for more than 10 years.

After the deed, we washed briefly and cuddled in bed. I asked if she could stay overnight, and she said it would cost 2,000 yuan. Given that it was almost 2am, I thought it was not worth it. She then gave me her phone number and promised that she would skip work next time I came. How nice of her!

1000 Y for a ST with basic knowledge of sex ??? See how some guys spoil the market for all the rest of us !

Member #1604
11-01-07, 10:47
On my second night in Chengdu, I thought that I needed a genuine massage before going to sleep. I checked the hotel directory and found that the Shangri-La had a spa named “Chi” but that it had closed at session.
...
How nice of her!

WV,
great report I ever read.
Just do it.

WooVictor
11-06-07, 07:07
I must say I'm dismayed by Erik's comment that I've ruined the market by paying a total of 1,000 yuan for a room service in Shangri La. How many times do I have to say this, there is not one market but many layers of market, for meat and for everything else. I paid 1,800 yuan for one night of room at the Shangri La Chengdu, and in the big cities the Shangri La charges 3,000 yuan, and that's really their chepaest room rate. If you prefer you can pay 168 yuan for one night of room at the 168 Inn, which has a standard price across the whole country. I don't think anyone will be so silly as to suggest that those who stay at the Shangri La are ruining the market for the 168 Inn.

As I've said in the Shangri-La report and in my previous posts on my Chengdu adverture, other 5-star hotels in town are charging even more for room service, and I certainly think that the Shangri La is great value, for the hotel room and the room service and everything else. By the way, they charge 50 yuan for a cup of coffee at the lobby lounge, and of course you can get one for 5 yuan at the MacDonald's.

I know the prices in China very well, having been a monger in the country since 1993. I have also been to some BBS a few times myself, in Shanghai, and I never paid more than 300 yuan for full service. However, I've vowed never to set foot in a BBS again. Given the huge supply of girls in China, Erik, you can rest assured that you will continue to enjoy 200 yuan a fuck at various bbs around Chendgu for the next many years to come. But don't harass me for paying the right price at the top end of the market.

Tango Foxtwo
11-06-07, 11:13
I must say I'm dismayed by Erik's comment that I've ruined the market by paying a total of 1,000 yuan for a room service in Shangri La. .... you can rest assured that you will continue to enjoy 200 yuan a fuck at various bbs around Chendgu for the next many years to come. But don't harass me for paying the right price at the top end of the market.Victor, I agree with you 100%.

Quality and level or service has it price and the market will supply to each levels.

But your response is both gentile, logical and mature.

Your info on Shangri La providing room service is NEWS to me. I'll do this the next time I go there.

BTW, my hamburger room service cost $22 at the Westin. I could have gone to McDonalds. McDonalds and Westin are still going strong.

Cheers to you.

Starmanliner
11-07-07, 06:27
Hi everyone,

Please excuse what may be a very dumb question, but I am new to this.
I just arrived in Chengdu and have found many of the reports very helpful.
I went to some of the recommended places to look for BBS. And indeed, I see many many of them. What I am confused about is this. When you walk by then places, they all look like real hair salons. What I mean is that they always seem to have regular people getting their hair done, and all the people working in there really seem like they are actually working, never mind that they all look like punks with their spiky perms. I have not dared walking in to any one of them, for fear that I'd actually get a funky hairdo!

Can someone tell me how to tell the real hair places from the ones that actually offer the kind of service I'm interested in?

I found a few places near Xin Hua Park that offer girls, but they are
not BBS, just very dark-looking store fronts with pimps hanging outside.
They are not bad, if you don't mind how filthy the rooms are. But since everyone is mentioning BBS, I figure I must be missing something basic.

Thanks for your help.

Erik
11-07-07, 07:13
Sorry Tango Foxtwo, if you mean than quality of service has anything to do with the price level, that might be correct in many industries but certainly not in prostitution. This industry has its own logic which basically consists of getting as much of money as quickly as posible with the minimum investment and without any ethics and very few customer concern. Personnaly every time I have tryed a so called upmarket place, the stunning girl I chose offered a bored, rushy, uninterested service. OK you are going to answer it is because I am not hansome and I am this or that. That would be a too easy explanation. Now on the other hand I would not excpect a service lasting more than 10 mn if I ever took a 50 Y ugly street girl. But I insist that the best experiences I had in China over the years were with girls ranging 150 to 250 Y market. Take your time to choose, talk, test the reactions and if you feel a chemistry then it will work. Really no need to pay more, especially as 60 per cent of the money doe not go to the girl.

Arctic1
11-07-07, 11:29
Hi everyone,

Please excuse what may be a very dumb question, but I am new to this.
I just arrived in Chengdu and have found many of the reports very helpful.
I went to some of the recommended places to look for BBS. And indeed, I see many many of them. What I am confused about is this. When you walk by then places, they all look like real hair salons. What I mean is that they always seem to have regular people getting their hair done, and all the people working in there really seem like they are actually working, never mind that they all look like punks with their spiky perms. I have not dared walking in to any one of them, for fear that I'd actually get a funky hairdo!

Can someone tell me how to tell the real hair places from the ones that actually offer the kind of service I'm interested in?

I found a few places near Xin Hua Park that offer girls, but they are
not BBS, just very dark-looking store fronts with pimps hanging outside.
They are not bad, if you don't mind how filthy the rooms are. But since everyone is mentioning BBS, I figure I must be missing something basic.



The common denominator is well-dressed young girls sitting around, looking bored, maybe playing mahjong or cards. Usually you will not find haircare in evidence, but I have seen it.

El Frances
11-08-07, 22:09
But I insist that the best experiences I had in China over the years were with girls ranging 150 to 250 Y market.

I agree with you, Erik (As usual)! Young, clean, polite and natural girls.

Loveasiangirls
11-09-07, 06:10
As there was no room at the Crowne Plaza for my first night, I figured I'd check into the Prime Hotel to be close to the action.

Went down to the spa on the 6th floor. No english spoken there but was offered 3 types of massage, first two being less than 50RMB but the third was 700RMB and the girl knew one word of english "sex". That was clear!

Was taken to a room then offered a choice of 2 girls. Took one that had the Sichuan look.

Proceeded to shower and cat bath.

Then moved to the bed for some CBJ. Then would not do the deed saying I was too big. Offered a HJ which I declined. Asked to go back to oral. This is the first time that I was refused FS due to size.

We chatted afterwards in her limited english and my limited chinese and she explained she had an american guy before and he hurt her inside.

In any case, I found the experience underwhelming. I thought I had better value last week with my BBS girl at 200RMB in Shanghai.

Peter
11-10-07, 01:23
I went down to the hair care salon at the shangri-la on the ground foor. They do have 5 girls to pick from and the cost is 1000rmb, but they were among the least attractive line ups I have coe across in Sichuan. certaily not worth the money.

I had an amazing sichuanese girl in a private VIP room at the Nanyuan Hotel in Ningbo who was super full service with soe of the best ass rimming, and who actually let me go down on her. she was amazing.

And I went to the Prime Hotel 6th floor again, I went for the 686 deal and got shown to the special room with a shower and the bed with water. I was shown 2 girls, nd they were gorgeous. One was either number 28 or 78 an she looked good and had a perfect body aside form the armpit hair. I decided to keep both, and the price wa simpl double.

We had fun in the shower and a great 3 way session wit a nie tongue tip rimming and some fingers in my butt while I was fuking the oter.

Another night I went to recreate this evening, but the girls were not there and I picked 2 others who were fatter and total duds. Their rimming was ateitc, just some shit with some candy corn.

So fat girls don't actuay fuck better.

But price does not have anything to do with quality in this business, luck does.

Bearsk
11-10-07, 19:47
Recent visit to Chengdu. Challenge for white guy with no Mandarin. Stayed at Sheraton. Pricey and not central. To navigate I resorted to downloading hotel jpeg from sinohotels to my PDA to show taxi driver. Has Chinese text name of hotel and the phone number. Worked after getting lost several times.

Venture around to look at things. Sheraton sauna is no longer there but they have KTV in basement where you can pick up girls and use elevator to get to room in hotel without walk of shame across foyer. Did not explore this. Water hotel 21st floor, went late morning certainly on but poor selection of girls, only one I wanted was the receptionist (! ) and she went red when I asked but then said yes. Did not want to push luck. Basement of Crowne Plaza was OK but I declined because they looked confused when I asked is massage was with a woman. Trad massage only in Tibet hotel for non hotel residents.

I visited Golden Pool at Prime twice. First day took 688 RMB option in VIP room, offered 2 girls. Ji Shee (66#) 21 yo and Wen Jun (10#) 26 yo both from Beijing. Turn out to be sister. Ji Shi is mega cute, pretty face looks a bit like Maria Ogawa, great body. 35B breast, slim waist, long legs. Chose her so we showered and did cat bath bed with massage with those tits all over me. I am hard as a rock but she looks at my penis like its godzilla. Gvies me CBJ with hot water. Nice but then asks if I want second girl. I said OK and they bring Wen Jun back who is more experienced etc. She is more thick set than her sister breasts 35C no as pretty but good attitude. I have FS with both. Ji Shi is really tight and has small pussy but is enthusiastic, tits really bounce. Finish with double hand job / tit fuck. Cost 1428RMB.

Return next morning before flight wanting to do Ji Shee again. She is not there but they show me Ji Chi (26#) 20 yo Beijing 35C breasts, nice legs and ass, great attitude and sense of humor and a very tall skinny Sichuan girl about 5ft 9in tall, nice smile (#68). I pick Ji Chi and start with her, shower, decline water bed and straight to the bed. CBJ excellent with tit fuck. Some problems penetrating but worked through and go for it. She is surprised I don't cum and asks if I want another girl as well. I ask for #66 but they bring back the Sichuan girl, I say OK. She wipes me down and starts with BBBJ. Nice technique also good with her hand. She climbs aboard and we go hard, no problems with size etc. She then jerks me off over Ji Chi's breasts. Cost 1376RMB.

Lack of Chinese over English did not seem to be barrier.

I will use Prime as a back up should other things fail to materialize in future in Chengdu.

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Babaluba
11-10-07, 21:55
The Coral Sea is located on the third floor of a new commercial building. It has its own entrance near a big restaurant. It is quit new and luxuriously decorated in some strangely Franco-Roman style that is all the rage in China now, if you know what I mean.

Hi Woovictor,

can you or anyone else give directions to the Coral sea Spa? Ideally in Chinese? Sounds good.

br,
B.

WooVictor
11-12-07, 09:47
Hi Woovictor,

can you or anyone else give directions to the Coral sea Spa? Ideally in Chinese? Sounds good.

br,
B.

The Coral Sea Spa is lcoated at No. 1 Wucheng Dajie, in the eastern part of city centre. It's just off the riverside and intersects with Dongan Nanlu.

Unfortunately I cannot display the Chinese characters. I suspect that's because I'm using a Mac Powerbook and the forum somehow has trouble reading the characters. They came out fine in my machine, and in the desktop PC in my office.

Try get your hotel concierge to work out the Chinese characters for you.

Have fun!

Victor

Babaluba
11-16-07, 16:38
The Coral Sea Spa is lcoated at No. 1 Wucheng Dajie, in the eastern part of city centre. It's just off the riverside and intersects with Dongan Nanlu.

Victor

Thanks Victor,

will be in Chengdu in 2 weeks and try. Should be able to figure it out.

Babaluba

Ham Sap Lo
11-17-07, 04:31
Hi, I'll be going to Chengdu shortly, and I especially enjoyed the reports of the HongHong Dance Club. Unfortunately, the last report is from January. Is this club still around and does it still have the action?

Ringer5
11-26-07, 03:26
I was visiting Chengdu for a couple of days last week, had a good experience at the Yue Guang Bao He sauna. (Sorry, I don't have the address, could probably find some details, but it's a large and visible place. Hard to miss if you're in the area). It seems like a popular destination, with a lot of taxis and doormen outside. Inside, there's a reception desk with cheerful girls, nothing obscure about this place! There's a choice of 598, 698 or 798rmb. I could not establish the exact differences so took the 698, thinking from other postings that the 798 would probably involve some extra bath activity that I didn't need.

I was quickly led to a very nice room, large clean bathroom attached, furnished and decorated to give an "exotic" feel. Fpr example, the bars for the red ropes were hung with with silk curtains, for those who care about such detail!

The manager brought in an attractive girl in a red silk dress. When I greeted her with "ni hao", she looked a bit crestfallen, said "no? " in a questioning tone and walked out! Apparently my pronunciation didn't work in Chengdu, as she thought I'd rejected her. Before I had chance to react, the manager was back with another girl, determined to put the situation right. This one, #68, was stunning, 27, with a beautiful body and lovely smile, dressed in a "harem outfit" of underwear and gauzy skirt.

She started off quite businesslike but became more friendly as time went on. Nice bath and massage, then all the usual sauna services. Overall, very good attitude. Not too much moaning, and kidded me about only getting one shot after she came three times in the DATY session! The bill was as expected, no hidden extras. I will definitely plan to go back there next time I'm in town.

Aisin Gioro
11-27-07, 11:19
Gents,

I am paying a visit to my beloved Chengdu in a couple of weeks, nothing fancy, just a weekend. Last time I went, some one year and a half ago, I was hands full with my AFF freebies, so I could barely explore. My P4P experience had to be limited to one of the hotel saunas, which as usual I found overpriced and disappointing. But hey.

So basically I decided to change my approach this time and try something more Shanghainese if you know what I mean. If you don't, there I go:

BBS + take away + overnight service.

In Shanghai I can usually have that for 4-500 RMB (know the Village? ), with the widest choice I've seen in Northeastern Asia. Plus, I am definitely fond of BBS girls rather than sauna girls, for the same reasons some brother quoted down on another post.

Advice anyone? I think just knowing where to find the shops I'm more than capable to negotiate the rest.

Note: I did RTFF, but even after spending more than one hour doing it I can't say I'm positive about where to find a working BBS area (Ma'an lu? ) so I can do some window shopping, which is the key to success in this business. The BBS scene appears to be less up to date and rather unstable, which makes older posts kind of unreliable. Also, my geographical knowledge of Chendgu is pretty limited (my bad).

I'll be staying near Sichuan University.

PMs for group hunting are more than welcome.

GeorgeAmerica
11-27-07, 23:25
Get in a cab and go to the yulin area. It's about 5 to 10 minutes from Chuanda west gate. A walk around in the area should produce enough choices. Price is somewhere between 300 to 500 for overnight. Depends on how hard you bargain.

Tors Ham
11-29-07, 15:53
Club Babi and bars and clubs around that area are a place where Chinese mongers pick up freelancers.

Another bar in that area is www.sohobar.com. Cn can maybe find the address thru this site.

If you follow the river crossing the street from The club there is a row of bars.

Can be tricky if you are alone without someone that talk Chinese, then the girls tends to avoided contact.

Remembers that there are most god girls in the clubs and bars.

The Dynasti hotel have a sauna, just take left entering the hotel area. Price around 6-700RMB.

The hotel close the LV shop, just walk to the end of the U shape (there are 2 hotels there)

Take the elevator to the bottom floor and you will be presented with a damn hot line up.

Price 1000 RMB for the girl and if I don’t remember wrong 600 for the room (can sleep the night there then, if I got the things correct)

I did pass on that so I don’t know the service level, but the girls where stunners.

The hotel on the left side (in the U shape close the LV shop) have another Hotel building cross the street that have a massage with extras, just take left when your walking in there.

Jingchuan hotel. No. 144 Western Section of the first Round Road.

Have a sauna 620 RMB for a full service, and you can use the room to sleep the night. Elevator to the bottom floor, god service there.

And as for the saunas, there are safer than picking freelancers to the room, it’s not unusual that the police knocking on the hotel room door.

I was recommended by a Chinese monger that never take girls back from the street, better to stay the night at a sauna.

Well that’s what I have for now that I haven’t found in this bord before.

Autumn Lover
12-02-07, 04:36
I can't find anything recent or specific regarding Emei. I'm going there this week, and wondered whether anybody has any information about hotel saunas, girl-friendliness of hotels or in-house service. Price info would also be appreciated.

I'm staying in one of the top two hotels, but can't remember its name. I know it has large park-like grounds.

Thx for any help.

AL

Tors Ham
12-02-07, 10:52
I can't find anything recent or specific regarding Emei. I'm going there this week, and wondered whether anybody has any information about hotel saunas, girl-friendliness of hotels or in-house service. Price info would also be appreciated.

I'm staying in one of the top two hotels, but can't remember its name. I know it has large park-like grounds.

Thx for any help.

ALDon’t think there’s any action up there, it’s more a religious thing for the Asians to go there.

I wouldn’t expect any, I can be wrong.

Stayed at one of the top hotels before and it was nothing.

It’s a Buddhist halo, Emei mountain.

Allanooi
01-07-08, 17:24
Bros, can give some direction Yu Lin BBS? need to give taxi driver direction. Can I takeaway girls from these BBS back to own hotel instead of doing it there at their shops? If so how much is ST and LT?

Can recommend a few good places where sauna with special services?please give direction thanks.

Night Cat
01-08-08, 18:59
I need a buddy to hang out with at the One Way bar. The girls are non-pro, and tend to be an older crowd (mid-20s to mid-30s). As a Chinese singles bar, it has a reputation of being a pick-up joint, although I never did find a one-night stand when I used to go there a few years ago. Perhaps it is more suitable for finding an ongoing lover (e.g., get the girl's phone number, call her the next day, see what happens from there). Also, it seems like nobody there speaks English, so I find that it's a good opportunity to practice my Chinese. Please PM me if you're interested.

Bearsk
02-07-08, 12:07
4 day trip.

Night 1. Late arrival, new China Mobile SIM card. Golden Pool Sauna 6th fl Prime Hotel. 9pm. Asked for VIP did not want to give, offered girl in regular section for 600RMB. Sichuan girl 155cm 45kg #18 could not get name, 22yo. Cute small breasts but great skin nice legs and butt. Rating 7/10. No English. Nice mutual shower with HJ and brief BBBJ. CBJ and standard FS with HJ/BJ finish. No problem. Charge 600MB. I asked about prior girls I had previously - all had moved on. I would do again, but not outstanding this time.

Day 2. Golden Kingdom Sauna on right side of Carefour Center off Tongzilin Rd North (West End). Afternoon. Enter and take elevator to 4. Door man reticent since i am laowie - request for "ang mo" and "lo sharng" got me through. Walk a long way past KTV area - seems major activity at night. Offered 1 girl for 600 RMB and 2 for 1154. Taken to room line of 5 average girls different shapes. Picked bustier one with cute face from Chengdu named "Pan", good skin 7/10, 36B cup, 24 yo. She then talked me into second girl - not great - Ni Ping 5/10 not pretty with extra pounds but quite fun enjoyed playing the bad girl, 25 yo. Nice set up in room with glassed off shower and wet massage table. Shower, double massage with BBBJ from both girls, Pan was great. FS on large bed first with Ni Ping then Pan. If doing again would just take Pan. Bill as advertised no extras.

Then walked to Shamrock Bar, few drinsk, poor dinner. Major freelancer talent, even if no Mandarin, String of girls through during course of evening.

Day 3. Try Crown Plaza basement - disaster - VIP 1 suite - 328 RMB, wait 1 hour for girl - do shower, sauna, steam watch TV. Finally girl arrives, has cold hands! Negotiation - 100MB for standard massage, 1200RMB for sexytime (thanks Borat). I offered 500RMB no smile or negotiation, say bye bye to girl. Offered another declined. Paid 116RMB including Chinese tea. heard from another guest quoted 680RMB to room in hotel if staying there. He was asked for 1500RMB and no negotiation. AVOID THIS!

Decided to try and fine Coral Sea Spa (Shan Shui Spa). On corner of Wufeng (no 1#) as it crosses the river. Enter middle of building - at the right end is a restaurant on ground level and left end closes to rover is currently vacant. In middle entrance, go to 3rd floor. Very plush Greco Roman design - high end, girls in red robes usher you in. Walk to desk - only Mandarin, very polite - ang mo, FS - quote 688RMB on list. Shie Shie ne. Note open 24 hours. Taken to locker room - change into play gear, led through very nice shower and hot tub area past reclining couch area to series of rooms (they also offer KTV in the evenings).

Taken to nice room with King bed and en suite shower with glass screen. Told will be 5 mins, given water and tea. Very soon my main guy returns with a girl. Initially started to ask for ask for a line up then i looked at her. Yi Hao #001 from Harbin now living in Chengdu, 19yo, knockout, slightly Korean looking face, great smile, perfect young breasts, great body, not shaved. Shoulder length straight hair. 9.5/10. Minimal English but really nice.

Mutual shower with drying. She covers me up on the bed and jumps in. After a while kissing and fondling, she goes down on me with HJ/ BBBJ which was fantastic and lasted about 10 mins. She was not keen on a mutual deal so i fingered her during her BJ with response. Initial reticence about my size, "thick as my arm" but then Great protracted covered FS for maybe 25 mins. Finish with breast fuck, BBBJ, HJ to climax. Lay under covers for about 15 mins before she started asking me questions in Mandarin that were beyond my scope. Total time 90 mins. Shower down and she takes me to the couch area, have drink , watch TV then go to plunge bath and back to locker room. RMB688. Thank you, Miss!

Returned next day on the way to airport. Same girl, looked as good, performed even better, vibrator during DATY drove her wild. RMB688

Coral Sea (Shan Shui) Spa ranks tops in my Chengdu rating followed by Golden Pond and then GKS. I would not bother with CP. Shamrock for FLs worth a look.

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ElectricJumbo
02-08-08, 05:44
I will be visiting Chengdu in the near feature. I have option of staying at the Sheraton, Crown Plaza, or Intercontinental. What is the best option for someone that wants to be close to the "action". I would like to get some ST dates in my hotel or maybe pick up a girl on a bar.

Any recommendations on places near by to get an outcall girl? I have heard that KTV are a good place to get girls but you have to negotiate directly with the girl and skip the KTV management.

Also if anyone will be there a the end of feb and would like to hang out let me know. We can go a get some hot asian chicks.

Bearsk
02-08-08, 18:13
Crowne Plaza is GF. I think Sheraton is also. Sheraton has a KTV type set up on other side of lobby to rooms tower with some onstage singing and sitting fee etc. You can take girl up in elevator on that side and walk across to rooms tower elevators without walk of shame across lobby.


I will be visiting Chengdu in the near feature. I have option of staying at the Sheraton, Crown Plaza, or Intercontinental. What is the best option for someone that wants to be close to the "action". I would like to get some ST dates in my hotel or maybe pick up a girl on a bar.

Any recommendations on places near by to get an outcall girl? I have heard that KTV are a good place to get girls but you have to negotiate directly with the girl and skip the KTV management.

Also if anyone will be there a the end of feb and would like to hang out let me know. We can go a get some hot asian chicks.

GeorgeAmerica
02-09-08, 03:45
It's past the 3rd ring road. Crowne Plaza is probably the best of the 3.

ElectricJumbo
02-09-08, 07:18
Crowne Plaza is GF. I think Sheraton is also. Sheraton has a KTV type set up on other side of lobby to rooms tower with some onstage singing and sitting fee etc. You can take girl up in elevator on that side and walk across to rooms tower elevators without walk of shame across lobby.Any good BBS or inexpensive KTVs around the Sheraton? I will be there on very limited budget outside of business expenses.

Bearsk
02-10-08, 03:16
2 BBS in road on north side sheraton offered at 300RMB mid 2007, i never went in. KTV options are behind CP and Chungxi Rd area but I have not spent a lot of time in them and never successfully pulled from a KTV in this town.


Any good BBS or inexpensive KTVs around the Sheraton? I will be there on very limited budget outside of business expenses.

ElectricJumbo
02-23-08, 19:15
2 BBS in road on north side sheraton offered at 300RMB mid 2007, i never went in. KTV options are behind CP and Chungxi Rd area but I have not spent a lot of time in them and never successfully pulled from a KTV in this town.I went around the Sheraton Hotel today and I could find any place. I headed to Shamarocks and didn't see any talent. I was there around 11pm. When is the best time to find girls? how do you approach them?

Anyone wants to join me to hit Shamarocks and see if we find something?

Tors Ham
02-24-08, 16:03
I went around the Sheraton Hotel today and I could find any place. I headed to Shamarocks and didn't see any talent. I was there around 11pm. When is the best time to find girls? how do you approach them?

Anyone wants to join me to hit Shamarocks and see if we find something?Hi,

If I would pick up FL or free be I go for Club Babi 2 and the clubs in that area.
Smile and try invite the ones that smiles back for a drink, but usually they come over and want to drink with you.

Just look lost.

Can be a problem to sort out the god ones from the bad if you don’t speak Chinese(i dont), but you will have fun anyway in that area.

And if it doesn’t work out you always have the sanu to fall back to.

There is some bars or clubs if you walk from Shamrock against computer city that suppose to be better (but I have never been there personally)

Sorry I can’t hook up with you, got to be in HK next week.

TH

Bearsk
02-27-08, 08:37
If you are still in Chengdu and having problems, then go to the Golden Sands Sauna in Prime Hotel or Coral Sea (Shan Shui) Spa at 1 Wufeng. Will cost you 600-700RMB but its all set up.

At Shamrocks the girls come through as classes at Sichuan University or work in the local places finished from 6pm on.

KTV in Sheraton may be worthwhile.


I went around the Sheraton Hotel today and I could find any place. I headed to Shamarocks and didn't see any talent. I was there around 11pm. When is the best time to find girls? how do you approach them?

Anyone wants to join me to hit Shamarocks and see if we find something?

WooVictor
03-07-08, 13:53
I was in Chengdu a few weeks ago for a couple of nights and stayed at the newly opened InterContinental Hotel located in the new Exhibition Centre area. When I booked the hotel I didn’t realize that it was out of town in the southeast. Luckily traffic was quite good and it generally took less than half an hour by cab to get to city centre, even at rush hour. The drawback is that it is difficult to get a cab. Also, there is really nothing to do in that area. Near by there are two Holiday Inns (one not yet open), some office buildings, an exhibition centre, plus a few restaurants and a few banks.

Due to the hotel's inconvenient location, I didn’t bother to go hunting after dinner with my client on the first night, and headed straight to the hotel to try to get something done. Late at night, I thought I’d need some relief, and called up the operator to ask for a massage service. It turned out that the spa centre was not yet open (and I wouldn’t be surprised that when it opened it would only offer straight massage) but the hotel could get the Holiday Inn to help out. The operator then put me through to the Holiday Inn’s massage centre, and the manageress there told me that they offered Chinese and European massage as well as a “more thorough” service for 1,000 yuan. Unfortunately there was no Thai massage. I opted for a “thorough” service and she promised to send me a girl in 10 minutes.

In due course a young girl knocked on my door and I admitted her. She was very pretty, of medium height, though a bit slim for my taste but still okay. She was also very sweet and compliant, did a thorough blowjob and rimming before mounting. I let her rode me for a couple of minutes before taking command of the situation, as I preferred to watch a girl coming under me. It was an enjoyable session but unfortunately I forgot her name now.

The next day, I concluded my meetings early and didn’t have to entertain any clients. So I went back to the exhibition centre in early evening, and decided to explore the Holiday Inn a bit. It looked quite nice, and judging from the public areas that I saw could almost qualify as a five-star hotel. There was a spa on the fifth floor, and I went up to take a look.

At the entrance, the spa looked like a straight place, with billboards advertising spa services that befit a lady. A manageress greeted me at the entrance and showed me around.

A customer can receive spa treatment in an ordinary suite without room charge, paying just for the spa services which cost some 400-800 yuan. These ordinary suites have a shower/toilet room by the entrance and then a decent sized bedroom with a large king-size bed and a bath tub in the middle. The rooms are quite nicely done, certainly up to five-star standard. If you want to spend more money, you can use the luxury suites which are much bigger and are equipped with a sauna and a steam room. The furnishing is also more luxurious. There are six such rooms, each will set you back by 600 yuan for six hours of use, on top of the fee for spa services.

The services offered on site turned out to be the same as those offered in the hotel rooms, and at the same prices. I did want to try this place, but then remembered that I needed to get something done for tomorrow and had to go back to my room.

After I was done with my work, I called the operator for a massage service and of course got connected to the Holiday Inn again. This time I asked for a European massage instead.

My masseuse this time was even prettier than the girl the previous night, though equally slim. Could it be the manageress’ personal taste, or just coincidence? Anyway, her skills were excellent, especially when it came to the handjob part. It was almost as good as real sex the previous night. Unfortunately she wouldn’t allow me to touch her body (only her thighs). The damage was 600 yuan, not bad for such a great service.

According to this girl (whose name also escaped me), the Holiday Inn Spa Centre had three types of girls, those who would do straight (Chinese) massage only, those who would do both straight and European massages, and those who only provided special service. There was also a guy who took care of women customers. She said that the straight masseuse would move to the InterContinental when its spa centre opened, and the other girls would stay behind at the Holiday Inn spa centre. Apparently the two spa centres are owned by the same guy.

The next day, while I was waiting for a cab to go to the airport, I asked the doorman about the four beautiful cars – two Porsches, one Rolls-Royce and one Maybach – sitting right outside the frontdoor. It turned out that they belonged to the boss, who owned not just the InterContinental but the whole exhibition centre complex. They could be rented by hotel guests. I didn’t bother to ask the prices. But if you have money to spend, you should consider staying here next time.

Cheongka
03-09-08, 15:01
Hi guys,

This will be my first time to Chengdu next week and i have a choice to stay in either Shangrila, Crown Plaza or Sherato.

Would like to get some inputs from bro here which hotel above is the closest to "action area"?

Thanks heaps.

Bearsk
03-15-08, 23:29
Suggest CP although avoid spa there.

Shangrila looks nice, ?GF, may pay to check.

Sheraton is a good option, although more than walking distance from center of town and difficult yo get taxis from in the evening.

Suggest you use jpg of hotel names to help with taxis e.g http://images.sinohotel.com/images/photo/oo/oo/so/253-0.jpg (CP)
http://images.sinohotel.com/images/2007/05/14/140806846.jpg (SGL)


Hi guys,

This will be my first time to Chengdu next week and i have a choice to stay in either Shangrila, Crown Plaza or Sherato.

Would like to get some inputs from bro here which hotel above is the closest to "action area"?

Thanks heaps.

Cheongka
03-16-08, 16:19
Suggest CP although avoid spa there.

Shangrila looks nice, ?GF, may pay to check.

Sheraton is a good option, although more than walking distance from center of town and difficult yo get taxis from in the evening.

Suggest you use jpg of hotel names to help with taxis e.g http://images.sinohotel.com/images/photo/oo/oo/so/253-0.jpg (CP)
http://images.sinohotel.com/images/2007/05/14/140806846.jpg (SGL)

Thanks bro. Any recommendation where to get pretty ladies?

Bearsk
03-16-08, 23:10
Spa/sauna

Golden pool in the prime hotel across footbridge from CP

Shanhu (Coral Sea) Spa Club 3rd floor, 1 Wufeng near river - 10 min walk from CP, open 24 hours, phone is 028 86529595 need some potunghua to speak with them but taxi driver can call for directions.

KTV

Sheraton take lift down to carpark at opposite end to hotel rooms - friend says 2/4/8 system depending on rating.

Golden Kingdom Sauna near (right side) Carrefore center

Kempinski hotel

BBS

Search this site but behind the CP and chungxi shopping area periphery there are mommies touting not too aggressively. In front of hotel lots of men touting with cards etc.

Freelancers troop through hotels.

If your expat looking for college talent, Shamrocks Irish Bar; I also got approached in Starbucks!


Thanks bro. Any recommendation where to get pretty ladies?

Long Stay
03-26-08, 03:24
hey guys,

I have about 10 guys heading your way for a stag weekend!
Any tips on action hot spots would be fully appreciated and fully repaid if you're ever in Hangzhou.

Arrive around noon on Saturday and leave late Sunday.

Cheers, LS

Long Stay
03-26-08, 04:57
Is the city still good for our sport?

Is the trouble affecting trade?

LS

Fish In A Barrel
03-27-08, 05:28
LS, I was in Chengdu this past weekend and as long as you stay in the right areas you should have no problems. If its a stag weekend, you probably won't stray too far from the major hotels and expat bars anyway.

I'm not sure if any of your party are into plump Asian women like I am, but for me the Shamrock was an obese oasis in a dainty desert. Don't get me wrong, i am not into dangerously heavy women, but a Chinese girl of average height who weighs 75-80 kilos is well worth the price of admission.

I sat and drank with a few plumpers drinking and making small talk for a few hours before one (of Mongolian descent) dragged me back to my hotel room for a wild night. She was all over me, huffing and sweating, giving as good as she got. She enjoyed a good smack and tickle and even stuck around for a morning session.

Sorry to get off topic, but to answer your question you shouldn't have too many difficulties. And if you do make it to Shamrock, be sure to take advantage...and snacks.

Kwwong2003
04-02-08, 19:01
I am new the Chengdu and saw there are so many signs of "Business Club" or VIP Club. Does anyone know what they are? any good and price?

Thanks

AsnDragon
04-11-08, 03:44
Be careful on some of those clubs that you see. Chengdu is filled with gangsters and organized rip off places. My friend who is a local in Chengdu can affirm my comment.

Basically, stick with large hotels, that have saunas or KTV. Only large big ass hotels that are upscale. Many of the cheaper 2-3 star places are rip off places, where the local thugs operate. They will take you to a room to pick out the girls and then promise you some cheap rate like 220 RMB for the whole service. Then after you are done, they will stick you with a bill of 1500 RMB or 2000 RMB or more.

I am speaking from personal experience. Later when you ask them why the bill became so high when it was promised to be 220 RMB, they will give you a receipt of, 500 RMB for the room, 300RMB for service fees, 500RMB for some other crazy false expenditures. And when you try to argue they basically come in with 4-5 guys and if you neglect to pay they will beat you up severely.

So before you try to be adventurous, ready my words carefully, Chengdu has one of the most thugs in China. Only go to Upscale expensive saunas in Hotels or KTV. Don't even try to the 3 star hotel places, stick with the upscale 5 star hotels.

I don't wish for you to be caught in a bad situation your first time in China and or in Chengdu.

Be careful

AsnDragon


I am new the Chengdu and saw there are so many signs of "Business Club" or VIP Club. Does anyone know what they are? any good and price?

Thanks

Da Edge
04-11-08, 16:10
Hi,

Thanks for all the reports. Does the Holiday Inn West Century City, have sauna that offers FS? Anyone been there? If not is there anything else in the area?

I will post report on what I find.

Thanks

DE

AsnDragon
04-12-08, 01:41
To Da Edge,

I've never been into the Holiday Inn in Chengdu. But if you are referring to the Holiday INN at xi chung Lu, the busiest downtown shopping district, then I have walked passed it, and that Holiday Inn is a platinum 5 star Hotel, which i imagine will probably have a Sauna with that caliber of a hotel. But expect to pay higher prices though, but i think it's better than being caught in the situation that i got caught in.

Safety is worth the extra bucks...trust me! have funa nd report back...

AsnDragon


Hi,

Thanks for all the reports. Does the Holiday Inn West Century City, have sauna that offers FS? Anyone been there? If not is there anything else in the area?

I will post report on what I find.

Thanks

DE

Mad City Dave
04-12-08, 03:31
I will be in the Chengdu area mid-May.

AsnDragon's post also got me thinking - I will be staying at the Tianfu Sunshine Hotel.

Any guidance to sauna's there or in the area? I will be traveling with my SO, so I would need easy access in the area. Pm me if you wish.

MCD

Kbho3009
04-12-08, 18:33
Hi Guys, I just had the most expensive HJ ever in my life by the girl from "Xiang Shu" located within Crowne Plaza. The Traditional Chinese Massage (45mins) is RMB260. This is already expensive but considering it is late and they are able to send girls upstairs, I go ahead anyway. When the girls come, she hinted for extra and Charge RMB1000 for BJ/HJ! For FJ, she ask for RMB1500! Due to I am extremely low in cash and don't wish to charge to room as company is paying for my trip here, I told her that I don't want extra. However, she keep bragging and bragging. After nearly 40mins negotiation, she settle with RMB1000 (massage + BJ + HJ). She nearly won't leave my room until she dig the 1K out of my pocket. Here's more info about her:

Number: 21 (Huang Yan or something similar)
Face: 7/10 (decent look)
Body: 7/10 (big boob - at least C-cup but got tummy)
Massage: 2/10 (not really massage, keep talking and try to convince me do extra)
BJ: 6/10 (up down with some suction)
HJ: 5/10 (up down)
WIR: No

One note: never never call the SPA unless you really willing to spend:
RMB260 - 45mins chinese massage
RMB680 - 90mins euro massage
RMB1500 - Boob job.
RMB2000 - FJ

Once the girl is in your room, is so difficult to get them out without spending RMB1K.

Good Luck!

Kwwong2003
04-13-08, 13:15
ASnDragon, Thanks for the advice!

Bearsk
04-14-08, 07:33
The spa girls at the CP are really hard sell low performance as detailed in my previous posts. The concierge at CP (Dick Kuo and others) is very helpful - called to make sure my requested girl was there etc.

Its 2 min walk to Prime Hotel across the footbridge for 600-688 RMB full service with a smile to around 10pm or about 10 min to the ShanShu spa for 688 RMB full service open 24 hours.


Hi Guys, I just had the most expensive HJ ever in my life by the girl from "Xiang Shu" located within Crowne Plaza. The Traditional Chinese Massage (45mins) is RMB260. This is already expensive but considering it is late and they are able to send girls upstairs, I go ahead anyway. When the girls come, she hinted for extra and Charge RMB1000 for BJ/HJ! For FJ, she ask for RMB1500! Due to I am extremely low in cash and don't wish to charge to room as company is paying for my trip here, I told her that I don't want extra. However, she keep bragging and bragging. After nearly 40mins negotiation, she settle with RMB1000 (massage + BJ + HJ). She nearly won't leave my room until she dig the 1K out of my pocket. Here's more info about her:

Number: 21 (Huang Yan or something similar)
Face: 7/10 (decent look)
Body: 7/10 (big boob - at least C-cup but got tummy)
Massage: 2/10 (not really massage, keep talking and try to convince me do extra)
BJ: 6/10 (up down with some suction)
HJ: 5/10 (up down)
WIR: No

One note: never never call the SPA unless you really willing to spend:
RMB260 - 45mins chinese massage
RMB680 - 90mins euro massage
RMB1500 - Boob job.
RMB2000 - FJ

Once the girl is in your room, is so difficult to get them out without spending RMB1K.

Good Luck!

Da Edge
04-18-08, 13:47
Hi Guys,

Eventually made it to the Oasis Spa in Holiday Inn. Hotel is very modern, food very good and staff very friendly.

The SPA is located on the third floor and is very well presented.

On going in I was asked what I would like and I went for the 45 minute massage for RMB 552 (including sauna). However he said 90 minute was same price after discount so I went for that.

Anyway show fine, sauna good and then to room. Girl (Nilly) could not realy speak English and it was difficult to know whether additional services were on offer. She gave a great massage and was trying to communicate in a nice friendly way.

She asked if I want massage my DiDi and I said not yet. However when the massage ended and she led me to the shower, that was it. She thought "not yet" meant NO. Anyway I showered and then asked for DiDi massage and she said no problem as she thought I sadi no. However she did not remove any clothes and did say no to that when I asked.

So tug job was very nice and was enough to settle down after a long day.

I left soon after that and paid at the front desk. As girl brought me to the lift she said I could have massage in the room for a 30% discount. Maybe if the girl comes to the room the FS negotiations happen.

Might try it tomorrow. Will post if I do.

Ok TTFN

DE

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Foogee
04-27-08, 12:06
Hi,

I am looking for massage places that:

- Does Good to Ok body massages (around 90 minutes)
- Not necessarly anything too sexy (just a HJ will be fine)
- Massage girls doesn't have to be drop dead gorgeous or naked
- Not too expensive (around 100 to 200 all included for 90 minutes)
- Place doesn't look too shady or run down

Anyone knows where I can find this in southern Chengdu, around 2nd/3rd ring road (near Europe Street) ?

Thanks,

Foo !

Jasbirb
05-03-08, 23:14
Hi guys,

I am a local chengdu people who now living in the UK. I will be very happy to answer any question regarding to the massage parlours in Chengdu city. Chengdu is lovely city, I hope all you guys have a wonderful time in Chengdu with my little help.

Mike85
05-04-08, 10:57
Hi guys,

I am a local chengdu people who now living in the UK. I will be very happy to answer any question regarding to the massage parlours in Chengdu city. Chengdu is lovely city, I hope all you guys have a wonderful time in Chengdu with my little help.Jasbirb,

What opportunities lie near the shangri la hotel in chungdu, within safe and easy walking distance. BBS? Sauna or incall service would be helpful.

Thanks

Mike85
05-04-08, 11:03
Hi guys,

I am a local chengdu people who now living in the UK. I will be very happy to answer any question regarding to the massage parlours in Chengdu city. Chengdu is lovely city, I hope all you guys have a wonderful time in Chengdu with my little help.My previous note I meant Crowne Plaza. What might be close to that place. Bbs, sauna, incall options.

Thanks

OldAsiaHand
05-05-08, 06:13
Kbho3009,

The problem is that when you stay at a 5 star hotel, the service providers think you are loaded and stupid. If the hotel has a BBS in house, the massage/FS is usually cheaper. That said, you could have walked out onto the street and had a hour massage for 30-50 RMB and FS for around 150 RMB.

The highest I have ever been quoted by a hotel spa girl was 1,000 RMB for FS. My experience is that you can usually negotiate to 400-600 RMB. It all depends on your attitude. You need to give her the idea that you can do without it and/or know where you can get it much cheaper and are only paying a little more for the convenience.

Just my POV.

OAH










Hi Guys, I just had the most expensive HJ ever in my life by the girl from "Xiang Shu" located within Crowne Plaza. The Traditional Chinese Massage (45mins) is RMB260. This is already expensive but considering it is late and they are able to send girls upstairs, I go ahead anyway. When the girls come, she hinted for extra and Charge RMB1000 for BJ/HJ! For FJ, she ask for RMB1500! Due to I am extremely low in cash and don't wish to charge to room as company is paying for my trip here, I told her that I don't want extra. However, she keep bragging and bragging. After nearly 40mins negotiation, she settle with RMB1000 (massage + BJ + HJ). She nearly won't leave my room until she dig the 1K out of my pocket. Here's more info about her:

Number: 21 (Huang Yan or something similar)
Face: 7/10 (decent look)
Body: 7/10 (big boob - at least C-cup but got tummy)
Massage: 2/10 (not really massage, keep talking and try to convince me do extra)
BJ: 6/10 (up down with some suction)
HJ: 5/10 (up down)
WIR: No

One note: never never call the SPA unless you really willing to spend:
RMB260 - 45mins chinese massage
RMB680 - 90mins euro massage
RMB1500 - Boob job.
RMB2000 - FJ

Once the girl is in your room, is so difficult to get them out without spending RMB1K.

Good Luck!

Bearsk
05-05-08, 08:31
If you read the forum (RTF) then you will see:
1. Don't use in house massage/sauna at CP unless you are a cashed up sexual underachiever.
2. Touts outside CP can deliver to your room.
3. Walk out front door and turn left on street, walk across overpass to diagonally opposite end and go downstairs near Pizza Hut. The Prime Hotel has a Sauna on the 5th or 6th floor - 600 - 688 RMB special service massage and FS.
4. Coral Sea Spa - major massage deal, could best in China.
Shanhu (Coral Sea) Spa Club 3rd floor, 1 Wufeng near river - 10 min walk from CP, open 24 hours, phone is 028 86529595 need some potunghua to speak with them but taxi driver can call for directions.

also see link http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=704756&highlight=coral+sea#post704756


My previous note I meant Crowne Plaza. What might be close to that place. Bbs, sauna, incall options.

Thanks

Roark
05-05-08, 15:03
There is a KTV in Tianfu Hotel on Taisheng Bei Lu where semi Mama-sans will come and dance naked (need to tip them). I asked one of the mama-sans and my girl to go up to my room and they were more than willing. But no lez action. See below link for photos.

When you get to the hotel, do not take the elevators from the lobby, but take the ones on the restaurant side.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=738634&postcount=1144

Mike85
05-06-08, 01:12
If you read the forum (RTF) then you will see:

1. Don't use in house massage/sauna at CP unless you are a cashed up sexual underachiever.

2. Touts outside CP can deliver to your room.

3. Walk out front door and turn left on street, walk across overpass to diagonally opposite end and go downstairs near Pizza Hut. The Prime Hotel has a Sauna on the 5th or 6th floor - 600 - 688 RMB special service massage and FS.

4. Coral Sea Spa - major massage deal, could best in China.

Shanhu (Coral Sea) Spa Club 3rd floor, 1 Wufeng near river - 10 min walk from CP, open 24 hours, phone is 028 86529595 need some potunghua to speak with them but taxi driver can call for directions.

also see link http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php
?p=704756&highlight=coral+sea#post704756YOU need to RTF, and when someone on THE FORUM offers to give direct advice, and someone like ME asks for it, you need to STAY OUT OF IT. You told me noting I did not already know, including your advice to RTF, which is o overused a response that you waste my time. SO keep quiet and let the person who offered advice give it.

And while you are at it, take your own advice and RTF.

Thank you.

Bearsk
05-06-08, 06:11
Good post, will try.

There is a KTV in Tianfu Hotel on Taisheng Bei Lu where semi Mama-sans will come and dance naked (need to tip them). I asked one of the mama-sans and my girl to go up to my room and they were more than willing. But no lez action. See below link for photos.

When you get to the hotel, do not take the elevators from the lobby, but take the ones on the restaurant side.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=738634&postcount=1144

Crazier
05-07-08, 07:17
Hi guys,

I am a local chengdu people who now living in the UK. I will be very happy to answer any question regarding to the massage parlours in Chengdu city. Chengdu is lovely city, I hope all you guys have a wonderful time in Chengdu with my little help.


Hi JB,

Saw your offer so am hoping you can guide us as we are going there for a short holiday soon:

1) Best BBS locations if any?

2) Best KTVs and pricing

3) Best Massage Parlours (sexy massage)

4) Best foot massage places (no sex)

5) Good Local Sichuan Food Restaurants

I know this is asking a lot so a list of 4 places per item would be more than I should ask.

Thanks in advance.

Can speak Mandarin but cannot write. However, if the name is in Mandarin alone, perhaps, I can show to hotel concierge (bellboy) and they can help me once I have your reply too.


C.

Bearsk
05-07-08, 07:45
I apologize Mike but if you want it private then PM.
I think you confuse RTF with RTFF, I meant the former (RTF) might be useful but ..
Otherwise please yourself.

YOU need to RTF, and when someone on THE FORUM offers to give direct advice, and someone like ME asks for it, you need to STAY OUT OF IT. You told me noting I did not already know, including your advice to RTF, which is o overused a response that you waste my time. SO keep quiet and let the person who offered advice give it.

And while you are at it, take your own advice and RTF.

Thank you.

Mike85
05-07-08, 23:49
I apologize Mike but if you want it private then PM.

I think you confuse RTF with RTFF, I meant the former (RTF) might be useful but ..
Otherwise please yourself.So harshly - I'm not new to this game, have read RTF here and everywhere else, have my list of Chengdu, however, when someone offers their insight, it may be new and useful. You summarized what is within the forum, I assume our good friend had new info that perhaps was not availabe.

I don't use the PM, by choice.

Thanks

Bearsk
05-08-08, 23:16
No problem, Mike. I suspect that since Jasbirb has only one post, he may be a flamer and is certainly not a regular. But hopefully he responds and enlightens us all! Good luck.


So harshly - I'm not new to this game, have read RTF here and everywhere else, have my list of Chengdu, however, when someone offers their insight, it may be new and useful. You summarized what is within the forum, I assume our good friend had new info that perhaps was not availabe.

I don't use the PM, by choice.

Thanks

Crazier
05-12-08, 13:03
All,

This the exact epicentre of the quake

06:28:00 Mon May 12 @ 02:28:00 PM at epicenter

Location 31.119°N, 103.258°E
Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region EASTERN SICHUAN, CHINA

Anyone has update on situation from ChengDu?

Based on what I can plot, it's pretty close to the Old Dujianyan Weir Irrigation area.

Thanks.

C.

Swlz2008
05-14-08, 12:35
Hi all, this is Jason, a Chinese guy based in Guangzhou, A powerful earthquake struck Western China Sichuan province on Monday 12th may 2008, toppling thousands of homes, factories and offices, trapping students in schools, and killing at least 12,000 people.

So I have to appeal all of brother who are seeing this message in this forum, If you are Looking for Sichuan girls to have fun or having fun with Sichuan girls in anywhere of China, you should give them double-price as your concern for their hometown’s natural disaster, and hit-and-miss some of stunners with pretty face and perfect figure and good skin, you should contribute much more money for this sex business they offer to you.

Howzzat
06-06-08, 18:30
Hi guys looks like Chengdu is back to normal.

I've got a regular local long-term Chengdu GF - who admits to being very bi-curious. Our problem is finding her another girl. Any of you Chengdu experts have any sensible suggestions - or am I about to be totally slagged off on my first post for not writing a report - which by the way could be darn interesting if we got to find another Miss Right!

Bearsk
06-08-08, 04:51
There are some girls at the Shamrock who are said to like teaming up - a Mongolian girl and her friends as an example. There is an unofficial girlsongirlz type group at Sichuan University which is close to Shamrock. One girl I talked to told me about this and said that these girls also like boys. I sensed an entree to FFM but had other obligations so did not follow through.

I am not sure whether any of the saunas would provide this as an option.


Hi guys looks like Chengdu is back to normal.

I've got a regular local long-term Chengdu GF - who admits to being very bi-curious. Our problem is finding her another girl. Any of you Chengdu experts have any sensible suggestions - or am I about to be totally slagged off on my first post for not writing a report - which by the way could be darn interesting if we got to find another Miss Right!

Phxchino
06-10-08, 15:53
I took a weekend to go to Chengdu in Sichuan province to join up with a volunteer group providing help to disaster victims. I spent all day Saturday hiking in the mountains with a 40 lb pack on my back full of pots, pans, toilet paper, dry goods and other stuff to distribute. Since I am a sofa surfer and office lubber, the walk nearly killed me. It was great to see the faces of the thankful people who received the suppliers. The only other thing that kept me going was the prospect of doing some mongering later on that evening. I got myself a room at the Century City Holiday Inn. Well, after I got back to the room, I took a long shower, slipped on my slippers and took a walk to the spa. There was the usual foot washing "Shi Jiao", but I opted for the traditional Chinese massage "Bao Jian An Mou". It was $385. I got girl number 99. She was a total knockout. Great skin, nice legs, chest and beautiful, silky soft hands with long, slender fingers and pretty nails. Perfect. I disrobed and she worked me over very well. She did an oil rub all over except the most important part, although there was a lot of incidental touching, which was highly erotic. We had great conversation throughout, but I think her scope of responsibility did not include any special services – she didn’t even hint at it, much to my intense chagrin. It would have been AWESOME. Oh well. It was worth just to have her put her hands all over me.

Phxchino
06-10-08, 16:01
as part of the volunteer work we went to visit a hospital where many of the injured kids where taken. well, one of the people i was assigned with was a very personable and attractive girl from beijing. immediately i felt something between us. we all wore these identification tags with the name of the organization. the first moment she saw me she took one of these and patted it on my chest with her well-manicured hand (of course i noticed). pretty forward of her, i thought. as we were delivering supplies to the hospital she kept saying she wanted to invite me to a meal of "zhong zhe", since it was the day of the dragon boat festival and all. i didn’t take her seriously until she came back with me to the hotel. we watched tv for a while and kept flirting, "casually" touching on another, etc. after the long-promised dinner, we went back to the hotel again and she showered up. i thought to myself, this is too good to be true. i invited her to stay and she agreed. as the night wound down i kept playing coy, just to raise the sexual tension. she said she was going to sleep and i said okay. as she closed her eyes i kissed her softly on the lips to say good night. in an instant we were a tangle of arms and legs. she was pretty wild in bed, but once she laid her sexy hands on me, i was ready to go. there was a lot of foreplay, a lot of stroking, poking, licking, everything. i could tell she was into me because she was dripping wet. i finally slipped it in and brought her to orgasm before i pulled out and released on her stomach. i wasn’t wearing protection, so didn’t want to contribute to the population problem in china, you know. hehehe.

well, we washed up and cuddled for a little while before drifting off to sleep. i woke up in the middle of the night and realized she had draped her hand across my lap. i was sporting another erection as soon as i realized it. i decided to use her hand to give myself a hj while she was asleep. i find this extremely erotic because you get to control the pressure and the rhythm and she is completely compliant. since her hands are already limply curled, it wraps around your member perfectly. i took a couple of pictures of her sleeping hand for your amusement. the sense of risk of her waking up during the unconscious hj only heightened the excitement. after about 10 minutes of manipulating her hand on myself, i exploded intensely into a handkerchief. it was awesome – i think i blacked out for a second.

anyway, in the morning i woke up and started to gently stroke her arms, thighs and breasts. pretty soon i had another erection. she slowly flipped around and we had another go of limbs spa. this one lasted longer since i had already had a couple of very strong orgasms. daty was enthusiastically received. i don’t think chinese guys do it very often. she was surprised and very wet again. after yet a couple more o’s, we crawled out of bed and had lunch. i had to go back to xi’an so we said our goodbyes, not knowing if we would ever see each other. perhaps the earth moved so we could meet. hopefully it won’t take another disaster for us to be together again.

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Bored In Beijing
07-17-08, 05:46
Stayed in the Shangri-la recently. I decided to check out the Irish bar on the ground floor. It was about 9pm and the place was pretty dead. Seems that occupancy in the hotel is down to about 40% since the quake, hence no punters in the bar. Had a drink and noticed a couple of girls chatting with the staff and drinking orange juice very slowly. Assumed they were working.

Finished my drink and decided to leave, one of the girls followed me out and asked if I wanted a massage. I asked how much and she said RMB1,000. I told her no way and tried to negotiate. She was very pretty but I wasn't horny enough or bothered enough to pay that. She refused to budge on price and I went back to my room alone.

A few nights later I was in the bar again. Noticed this time that the girls were walking in and out. In pairs, different girls each time. Realised that they must be from the beauty parlour on the ground floor. Had a few more drinks and decided to check the beauty parlour.

There were about 4 or 5 girls hanging around the door along with a man, who was their "interpreter". All the girls were pretty nice looking. The man introduced himself as Bob, in very good English, and asked if I wanted a massage. In the parlour or take away. He quoted RMB200 for a massage and RMB1000 for a "special" massage. I asked for a discount on a special so he said RMB800. I thought what the hell. The booze was kicking in and I needed a girl. He suggested a blonde (dyed hair) and said she was fantastic. This amused me as Bob spoke and acted really gay. I said OK and took her up to my room.

Her name was Liu Dan and she was a stunner. Straight into the room and her clothes came off. Slim, tanned with a very impressive rack. Firm and lovely. Firm ass and lovely little trimmed pussy. She tasked if I wanted her friend as well. She showed me her friends pic. Very nice and not in the beauty parlour. I said no, maybe next time. She was fine with that.

We did the shower thing, then went straight on the bed. She got some lotion and water and smeared it on her tits, then proceeded to rub them all over me. Great stuff!

Eventually went on to CBJ which was very pleasant. She refused DATY and insisted on going into the mish. Did a few other positions including doggy and she was loving it. Asked her if I could come on her tits and she said yes. Held off as long as could, but this girl was well hot and in the end I had to let fly. Came all over her tits. She loved it.

She gave me her number and asked me to call anytime. Then off she went. Well worth the RMB800!!

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Bored In Beijing
08-05-08, 06:34
On my last night in Chengdu decided to check out the beauty parlour again on the ground floor. Picked a nice looking girl called Lily. She had long black hair and a really cute face. She had been checking me out in the bar earlier and she was clearly interested in me.

Back in the room she got undressed and it turned out that she had the most amazing body. Really nice rack (Sichuan girls??) and gorgeous ass. We showered then straight onto the bed for some rather pleasant licking. She soon went into a BBBJ and I moved her over me into a 69 and went for DATY. She was really wet before I even got going. Needless to say we were moaning and groaning in no time.

After some time I went into the mish...she seemed to love it. Writhing around and moaning. She was really hot. Ended up blowing my load over her fabulous tits.

She gave me her number and email and told me to let her know when I am next in town. I think I will definitely have a rematch with her.

Zhangsan
11-09-08, 16:57
Wow, this thread is really dead. I don't know why; Chengdu has some fantastic nightlife/R&R and is famous for its beauties.

I recently visited the '牡丹阁花溪都市温泉', Mu Dan Ge Hua Xi Du Shi Wen Quan, or, roughly translated, the Peony City Spa (translation my own). It is a sauna at the corner of Erhuan Lu 二环路 ('Second Circuit Road') and 科华北路 Kehua Bei Lu ('Northern Kehua Road'). I would definitely recommend.

Prices are pretty decent; here are the options which I am aware of. With a VIP card (you can charge any amount of money, but if you charge 1000 RMB onto the card, evidently they'll give you an extra 100 RMB), the list of prices are as follows: 298 RMB for a 90 minute breast massage, 398 RMB for a 60 minute massage including sex, and 498 RMB for a 90 minute massage with sex. This is all inclusive, in that if you take any of these three options, it covers both the door fee (usually around 48 RMB I think), some beverages, the room fee, and you can also get a number of small snacks. The servers may try to badger you into buying the girls drinks for another 30-40 RMB; whether or not you pay is your own choice (I did the first time I went; the second time, they did not ask). Without the VIP card, you pay around 20 RMB extra'ish.

Both times I went, I went for the 298 RMB breast massage. Once you indicate your choice, you are brought into the 'spa' room, which is nothing particularly special; just a large room with three or four rather small 'pools' (more like hot tubs) which you can soak in for a bit; they have different types of pools with different types of water (such as a 'hot spring' style pool, a 'normal' pool, etc.). Afterwards, you shower and then get your sauna clothes before heading upstairs. Immediately upon arriving upstairs, you will see a wall filled with the (photoshopped, as cheerfully admitted by the staff) pictures of the girls; not all of them may be available however. You select from the photographs (I was lazy and just had them bring one to me), and if available, the girl will be brought into your room. My girl had a below-average face, but a very nice body, which is what matters in a place like this. The room had a large (Queen+) bed, a TV which plays Japanese porn, and a large bathroom with an air cushion mattress.

Both of us took our clothes off, and she took me into the large restroom. She covered the mattress with a layer of some disposable plastic wrap, then turned on the shower head on the air mattress. She had me lie face down the mattress, then began something similar to a soapy massage, at first with hands but very shortly with her breasts and the rest of her body. Same when she had me turn over to the front; it was altogether a very nice experience. Not quite the same as a 'real' soapy in an actual bathtub, but not bad at all.

Eventually, this ended and after she dried us both off, we went to the bed, where she licked my entire body, giving me a cat-bath with her tongue, before finishing me off with a blowjob (using hot and cold water alternately). As there was some time left, we stayed and cuddled until time was up and the knock on the door came. Note; if you leave early, the girls will actually get hit with a 50 RMB fine for evidently providing poor service to the customer, so unless you really did not enjoy your time, or are in a huge rush, you should stay. The girls split the take 50/50 with the sauna, so they essentially only get 150 RMB out of the 300 RMB, which really isn't that much, and getting hit with a fine means that they lose a third of it. Not very nice.

Total damage: 298 RMB, period (318 RMB without the VIP card).

Would I recommend? Yes. Repeat myself? Already did. I came out very, very relaxed, and quite clean!

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Zhangsan
11-12-08, 03:22
Went with some knowledgeable friends to the 'Celebrity Harbour' KTV in Chengdu. It is in the Qingyang district of Chengdu ÇàÑù, and has two floors; to my understanding, floor two is the 'legit' KTV, and floor three is the 'fun' KTV we went to. Got a decent room, spent a decent amount on drinks (roughly on par with bar prices), and got one girl each for the five of us, selected out of two lineups of at least 15+ girls each, each scantily clad (and progressively more so as the night wore on). In relatively short order, the tops came off and everything down to the chests were bared; groping was in order. It seemed as though only the pussy was off limits, although they were very free in groping us everywhere. In addition to the singing (some of the girls were quite good, for those who care about that, and the sound system quality was excellent), we played a lot of games, such as the ubiquitous liar's dice, as well as more. Hedonistic. Games, such as "Finding your wife", where I was blindfolded with one of the girl's bras and had to tell apart my 'wife' from the other girls by grabbing their breasts as they were presented in sequence (I succeeded).

All in all, not a bad night; tips for the girls were 300 RMB apiece, although servers came in to try and badger us into buying shit like large stuffed animals for 100-200 RMB apiece. One of my drunker friends bought two or three; the girls seemed really into them, although they claimed they got no financial kickback from them (I call bullshit). Tips of 100 RMB for the server girl, 100 RMB for the mama. Alcohol was, as I said earlier, at standard KTV/nightclub prices. All in all, a lot of fun. I'll try and get the exact address later.

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Bored In Beijing
11-12-08, 05:54
Zhangshan,

Nice reports. Will definitely bear this in mind on my next trip to Chengdu.

I too am at a loss why the Chengdu thread is so dead. Shame, as you say there is lots of fun to had.

Zhangsan
11-14-08, 07:10
The follow up I promised; the Chinese name is 名人海港, 'Ming Ren Hai Gang', and the location is 青羊区长顺下街18号, "Qingyang District, Lower Changshun Street, #18". Take out (after the 300 RMB sitting fee) is 1200 RMB for an all-nighter, and 1000 RMB for a quickie, so the takeout price is not for the faint of heart or bargain hunters; takeout mainly caters to rich businessmen or government officials.

Enjoy!

WooVictor
11-27-08, 12:32
I was in Chengdu last week just for one night. I had previously exchanged message with Night Cat and told him that I’d call him up when I got there. But I never got a confirmation from him and by the time I finished dinner with my client I found that my computer was having some problems and I couldn’t get his phone number. So I ventured out by myself. Sorry about that, Night Cat!

Some brothers may recall that I twice reviewed the sleazy dance halls in Chengdu about two years ago. In October 2006 I went to the Daqingya (which I mistakenly identified as Daxiya back then) Dance Hall, and in January 2007 I went to the really outrageous Honghong Dance Hall. This time around, I was relatively sober after dinner (the clients were miraculously not heavy drinkers), and decided to go back to Daqingya again for a more mellow night.

Daqingya is located at section one of the First West Ringroad in northwest Chengdu. I paid a five yuan entrance fee on the second floor, and went in the dance hall. On the right hand side was a nightclub with a stage where several girls were singing and dancing to an audience of may be 50-60 people. On the left hand side was the dimly lit dance floor. There were easily 30-40 couples dancing, with some 50-60 girls standing in a big circle along the dance floor. Further back, there were some 20-30 sofas and a number of men and women were sitting here and there.

I walked around the dance hall slowly, observing the girls dancing and those standing by. As expected, some of the girls were just teenagers, but others could be 40 years old, and they came in all shapes and sizes. It seemed to me that the teenagers tended to wear jeans or tight pants, while the older women tended to wear very revealing clothes.

After a while I found a matured woman, probably in her late 20s, dressed in a very sexy low-cut shirt. She had a beautiful face, and a very attractive body. So I decided to take her to the dance hall. She hugged me tightly once we got to the middle of the dance floor, and I lost no time in caressing her back and ass. Before too long I ventured to her breasts, which were indeed quite sizeable (I suspect 34C or better). We danced for six songs (probably no more than 20 minutes altogether), and I paid her 40 yuan.

That night I danced with a total of five girls, two of them seemed to be teenagers (just under 20, but certainly not under-aged). Unfortunately, the dance floor was not dark enough, and the security guards were constantly patrolling around the dance floor. Nothing outrageous could be achieved. With two of the girls, I was able to fondle their breasts under their bras, and with another two I managed to slip my hand into their jeans and touched the upper part of their ass. Still, I found it a good way to while away the night – fondling five girls for no more than 150 yuan in total.

I spent about one-and-a-half hours there, and returned to the Sheraton before 11pm. Not sexually satisfied, I decided to call room service. Presently, a young (probably 22-24) and beautiful girl came to do an oil massage for me. She started in a professional manner, covering my private part with a large towel. But as she approached the top of my thighs, I encouraged her to go higher, and eventually the towel came off and she began to rub my backdoor, yet still avoiding my dick. Finally, she asked if I needed a handjob, and I asked her for full service. However, she said she would not do full service, but could call another girl up to my room. I insisted on having her, and after much haggling she agreed to my 600 yuan offer.

Noclew
12-03-08, 05:07
The KTV at the lower level/parking level of the Sheraton hotel has a good collection of girls. On this particular night, the mamasan paraded about 20 odd girls before we picked the ones we wanted. Prices were 650 for the room including drinks + food, you pay if food and drinks over 650.

I personally would rather go to a massage or a sauna as those girls know how to treat and play with you.

RodneyRude
12-13-08, 01:32
Hi Guys,

I'm looking at teaching english at a college in Mianyang, Sichuan, anybody else on here teaching English in Sichuan?..was wondering how easy it is to score freebies as an english teacher?

Thanks in advance.

Rude

Mianbao
12-21-08, 09:01
I was in Chengdu for a quick trip in early November, and not knowing the city I followed some posts from a couple of years ago.

The first night I found Honghong without any difficulty (I just told the taxi driver Tongjinqiao Lu, it’s not very long), but too late, when the final people were already leaving. The KTV on the floor below was still open so I asked them what the story was, and they reported that Honghong closes around 11pm. I headed out and decided to go earlier the following night.

I then made my way to the north gate of Xinhua Park. The taxi driver was a total muppet and did not know the name of the park, but I found it by getting him to drive in the right direction, and on the ring road soon saw signs to it. There is obviously still a lot of potential action in this area, but the nature of it seems to have changed significantly from two years ago. Gone are the obvious BBS, and in their place are what looked like the midpoint between BBS and small saunas. I was quoted 300-400 RMB for FS (might be inflated westerner pricing), but being on my own declined to take up the offers. All of these places had a few local males loitering around the doorways, and if they had decided to rip me off I would have been at their mercy. I saw one very cute girl at the doorway/reception area of one place, but otherwise the girls were all out of sight. I guess this whole area has been pushed ‘underground’ somewhat, and being unable to show off their wares instead the business model has changed.

I therefore went back to my hotel, and made use of the in house massage service. I actually went down to where it was however I could also have stayed in my room, as they also called (it was a budget hotel). The massage place looked like it was closing (it was only about 1am) but they agreed to send someone up to my room, and a very sweet innocent type girl turned up. She was from a village somewhere in Sichuan and seemed not to have been in the game for very long. I asked what the options were, which was RMB100 for an innocent massage or RMB800 for FS, with nothing in between. When I declined RMB800 she asked how much I would pay, however she was so sweet and innocent I did not want to break the illusion of her innocence and said the RMB100 option was enough. She actually did a good job and made me very relaxed, and did not make any more efforts to upsell. If I lived in Chengdu I’d be trying to convert her to a freebee.

The following night I headed back to Honghong, which was in full swing when I arrived before 10pm. I was warned about pickpoints when I went in, and could see why with a dark but crowded place. The deal here is still as per reported previously, RMB5 tip to the girl per dance (just wink or nod and lead them to the dance floor). The first girl I danced with wanted to stay near the seating area and did not seem up for anything, after two dances I had a beer and spotted one with a low cut top and ample ‘talents’. She was much more into groping, and in between dances we chatted and exchanged numbers. There appeared to be promise to meet after 11pm however she had to go home and sell a story to her mum first, I suspected that this was a ploy to get me to stick with her for the rest of the night and so it proved, but for RMB100 and some interesting chat while being pressed up against her I didn’t mind.

Went back to my hotel and accepted a call from the same outfit downstairs, but a different girl turned up. She was a 7/10 and more wisely quoted RMB400. I probably should have but I didn’t bargain (sometimes it only reduces service quality and suspected that here). As seems to be the case with room service in small hotels the girl had not heard the concept of fore-play, so off came the clothes and she laid down on the bed. Service was actually not bad however and she was also a sweet girl with a nice attitude.

Bearsk
12-21-08, 21:01
Good post. Can I ask which hotel and how much it cost?


I then made my way to the north gate of Xinhua Park. The taxi driver was a total muppet and did not know the name of the park, but I found it by getting him to drive in the right direction, and on the ring road soon saw signs to it. T

I therefore went back to my hotel, and made use of the in house massage service. I actually went down to where it was however I could also have stayed in my room, as they also called (it was a budget hotel).

Bearsk
01-18-09, 01:43
I am headed back for the first visit since the Earthquake.
I will look up old friends and some leads from the board and report.
Any advice from board going in?

Bearsk
02-05-09, 12:24
Return to CTU after more than a year.
Arrived mid afternoon and took a nap, overslept and woke up at 1am then could not sleep.
Got room service and then decided to go to CSS on Wufeng as previously reported:
Not too horny so opted to clean up and have a pedicure (28 RMB), manicure (28 RMB), beer (pidjo, 28RMB) then a noodle snack (gao mian 15RMB). Fell asleep in reclining area and woke about 5am with hard-on.

Ask for VIP massage (688RMB): taken to VIP room area: 23 yo Chengdu girl Tao Tao (Chinese word for condom but that was her name) 164cm tall slim, small but shapely breasts overall 7/10. Nervous to start but then provide all requested BBBJ, all positions with major enthusiasm. Minimal English but eager to communicate and please. Soak in tub, back to hotel around 7am for breakfast.

I returned 2 days later in the afternoon. Went straight for VIP massage. Looked at several girls, not too my fancy, requested tall with hao do bo bo (Large breasts). Got Chen who was 25 yo Chengdu girl looked a little tired, 168cm tall augmented, nice bum, trimmed triangle of pubic hair, overall a 7/10. Performance average and a bit mechanical but adequate. 688 RMB.

CSS remains a solid option 24 hours a day. Girl quality not as good as previous times.

I will try and add photos of CSS later.

Bearsk
02-05-09, 12:39
Read in conjunction with my previous posts related to how to find it and get in etc.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=704756&postcount=424

Bearsk
02-05-09, 12:53
I returned here to check this out late on a weekday afternoon. Had been walking so wanted a foot massage.

I signed on for 45 mins "mu zu" or "an jiao" for 48RMB although there are longer options for 58 and 68RMB. Excellent service from a 20 yo Chengdu girl named She She (as in thank you). Highly recommended. She does not consider herself a "piao liang nv", beautiful girl - "wo bu dong" she said, which I think means a "I am not a beauty". In any case, it was good.

Suitably relaxed, I then went for the VIP option in the rooms on the other side of the elevators. Yan 25 yo Chengdu girl very pretty face, small breasts with very large nipples, picture postcard rear end. 8/10. Performance adequate, very nice but reluctant on BBBJ and had size problem with FS. Got me there, it was OK. We had a nice chat afterwards in limited language.

This place generally is looking a bit run down. Yan was telling me that girls previously came from other parts of China - not so common since the earth quake. May explain some things since all the girls this time were from Chengdu, as opposed to less than 50% on prior trips.

Bearsk
02-05-09, 13:36
I had been to Chengdu several times before and wondered about the KTV in the basement/carpark of the Sheraton hotel.

On my last night, I was on my own, rest of contingent having left town to travel in another direction, so decided to venture down on a week night
(Mistake 1#, always take a friend).

I arrived and was enthusiastically greeted by the staff and sat down in the main area, which consists of a stage (not in use on this week night) and several clusters of seats. They asked if I would like a drink, I asked for a beer, they brought Heineken (38RMB). Tout comes to ask about requirements etc - I think his name was Chang-Sze. Suggests I meet girls - line up of five, couple in coats clearly about to head home because of limited action (2 VIP rooms in use).

This was an impressive line up, all 7/10 or better. Chang-Sze says "take two to make party" - 300RMB each
(Mistake 2# - this was over the money and I should have negotiated. I also figured that there the tout's cut in there somewhere).

So I pick Ching-Ching 20 yo from Chengdu, some English and ask her to pick a friend from the others. Lilly also 20yo steps forward - she is shortest at 150cm and kind of cubit dollish but very nice with moderate English. I order six beers (228RMB) and a fruit platter (128RMB) and ask about a room charge (fang fei) - no room charge I am told.

Ok so off we go to room, after a slow start we have a great time, both girls very good at singing and generally fairly physical. Lilly I would rate a 7/10, her picture does not do her justice but she had very nice skin and was great to chat with. Ching-Ching was physically hot - 8.5/10. She is very slim with large breasts: I figured they were fake; I spent some time before, during and after the singing trying to work this out. Still not sure. If they are not fake, she's a 9.5.

It reached 2am and it was time to go. I still had not decided on take out or not. I went to address the bill which was presented as 1247RMB ... hmm. I went to the counter and thought, I should just pay and get out of here with an inkling of an idea that it might be good to examine Ching-Ching more closely in my room. I had asked whether they take credit cards - YES - but they omitted to add they only take Chinese credit cards (UnionBay) and not MC, VC or AX
(Mistake 3#). Ok so the bill is inflated to the point where I don't have enough cash on me and they can't access my cards.

The manager lady starts giving it to Chang-Sze in Chinese.
He says, we must go to bank.
So we go outside where a taxi is waiting ...
Do I get in? - NO WAY!!

I suggest we take it inside to the hotel where I am staying. He is reluctant but I walk and give him no choice and the henchmen around disappear as we go into hotel. I ask for night manager, she comes out and speaks to them - asks for itemized bill (I already did ask fornthis but
Mistake 4# was not pushing issue, since even if its in Chinese they have to justify themselves) and suggests use of hotel ATM for cash. I go to ATM and get enough cash to cover. Itemized bill includes 300MB "tip" for tout and charges for cigarettes he smoked for 47RMB (no one else in room smoked). The hotel night manager looks at me and asks if I am happy to settle or whether she needs to call Police to assist me?! So I agreed to pay the bill less amounts for tip and cigarettes. Ends up around 900RMB.

I give a tip to Lilly who is still standing there and same tip to tout after he asked. I told him I would have tipped in cash and for more if he had not tried to scam me.

I am still wondering if Ching-Ching's tits are real and very much liked Lilly.

Summary:
Lots of mistakes but this may give insight into Chinese KTV issues for new guys.
The girls were actually very high quality.
The business side of things let a lot to be desired.
Check your bills and be careful.
Don't get in a taxi with these guys unless you want to be an organ donor or just fondly remembered.
BSK

AsnDragon
02-11-09, 22:42
Bearsk,

Be very careful in Chengdu! As I had stated in my previous reports in Chengdu. The city is littered with scam KTV/Sauna places. Try to stay only in the high end hotels, 5 star hotels only when you are trying to experience the KTV scene.

I personally have been scammed in Chengdu myself. People promising $200 RMB for full service etc. But when you leave they hit you with a bill for $1800 RMB. They basically surround you and make you pay or else your in for a big beat down!

So you were extremely lucky that they allowed you to walk back to your hotel. Most of the time they will just surround you with a bunch of guys, not allowing you to leave their establishment. But since you got out of that situation, you were extremely lucky! Also good thinking about not getting into their taxi. Because that could just lead to a whole array of trouble.

I'm telling you Chengdu is not a very safe place to be in this hobby, unless you are fluent in Chinese and know the area and people pretty well.

But I suspect that with the economy on the downturn, when people cannot find jobs, then people will resort to these types of trickery and scams. I have heard from friends of these types of cases in Sanya in Hainan Island as well.

But best to always be safe in China, chengdu is well known to have lots of gang-related activities. The exterior seems to be the contrary, but my friend who is from Chengdu and lived there all his life tells me so.

AsnDragon


I had been to Chengdu several times before and wondered about the KTV in the basement/carpark of the Sheraton hotel.

On my last night, I was on my own, rest of contingent having left town to travel in another direction, so decided to venture down on a week night
(Mistake 1#, always take a friend).

I arrived and was enthusiastically greeted by the staff and sat down in the main area, which consists of a stage (not in use on this week night) and several clusters of seats. They asked if I would like a drink, I asked for a beer, they brought Heineken (38RMB). Tout comes to ask about requirements etc - I think his name was Chang-Sze. Suggests I meet girls - line up of five, couple in coats clearly about to head home because of limited action (2 VIP rooms in use).

This was an impressive line up, all 7/10 or better. Chang-Sze says "take two to make party" - 300RMB each
(Mistake 2# - this was over the money and I should have negotiated. I also figured that there the tout's cut in there somewhere).

So I pick Ching-Ching 20 yo from Chengdu, some English and ask her to pick a friend from the others. Lilly also 20yo steps forward - she is shortest at 150cm and kind of cubit dollish but very nice with moderate English. I order six beers (228RMB) and a fruit platter (128RMB) and ask about a room charge (fang fei) - no room charge I am told.

Ok so off we go to room, after a slow start we have a great time, both girls very good at singing and generally fairly physical. Lilly I would rate a 7/10, her picture does not do her justice but she had very nice skin and was great to chat with. Ching-Ching was physically hot - 8.5/10. She is very slim with large breasts: I figured they were fake; I spent some time before, during and after the singing trying to work this out. Still not sure. If they are not fake, she's a 9.5.

It reached 2am and it was time to go. I still had not decided on take out or not. I went to address the bill which was presented as 1247RMB ... hmm. I went to the counter and thought, I should just pay and get out of here with an inkling of an idea that it might be good to examine Ching-Ching more closely in my room. I had asked whether they take credit cards - YES - but they omitted to add they only take Chinese credit cards (UnionBay) and not MC, VC or AX
(Mistake 3#). Ok so the bill is inflated to the point where I don't have enough cash on me and they can't access my cards.

The manager lady starts giving it to Chang-Sze in Chinese.
He says, we must go to bank.
So we go outside where a taxi is waiting ...
Do I get in? - NO WAY!!

I suggest we take it inside to the hotel where I am staying. He is reluctant but I walk and give him no choice and the henchmen around disappear as we go into hotel. I ask for night manager, she comes out and speaks to them - asks for itemized bill (I already did ask fornthis but
Mistake 4# was not pushing issue, since even if its in Chinese they have to justify themselves) and suggests use of hotel ATM for cash. I go to ATM and get enough cash to cover. Itemized bill includes 300MB "tip" for tout and charges for cigarettes he smoked for 47RMB (no one else in room smoked). The hotel night manager looks at me and asks if I am happy to settle or whether she needs to call Police to assist me?! So I agreed to pay the bill less amounts for tip and cigarettes. Ends up around 900RMB.

I give a tip to Lilly who is still standing there and same tip to tout after he asked. I told him I would have tipped in cash and for more if he had not tried to scam me.

I am still wondering if Ching-Ching's tits are real and very much liked Lilly.

Summary:
Lots of mistakes but this may give insight into Chinese KTV issues for new guys.
The girls were actually very high quality.
The business side of things let a lot to be desired.
Check your bills and be careful.
Don't get in a taxi with these guys unless you want to be an organ donor or just fondly remembered.
BSK

Bored In Beijing
02-12-09, 14:18
I am currently in Chengdu and have been coming here for about 8 years. I have not yet had a bad experience. Having said that care should always be taken wherever you visit in China.

Bored In Beijing
02-12-09, 14:34
So I got back to the Shangri-la a few days ago. Seems their "hair salon" is still running. Picked up a girl I met in July. Had her cell number and had warned her of my imminent return. She turned up at my door on my second evening within minutes of me texting her.

I have mentioned her in a previous Chengdu post. Nice breasts, nice body and nice attitude. Alas the attitude has changed. She started off by asking for RMB 1000. Previously we had agreed on RMB 800 and I was expecting to pay less this time around. I told her RMB 800 tops and she agreed but with that special Chinese sad look. I thought I was going to be in for a rough ride but things went very well. I would say a definite 8 out of 10 performance. BBBJ, cat bath, numerous positions.

Things deteriorated after the deed. She seemed to be under the impression that I was there for her sole benefit and would want to see her for the whole of my stay (2 weeks in this case). I told her that there was no way I could afford RMB 800 a night for the next 12 days. She didn't seem happy at this and started to try to get me to promise nights out and maybe 6 nights in bed. The whole idea left me cold and I told her no. I really did not see the point in tying myself down, especially if it was obviously going to get messy. She left my room seemingly fine with this. Next day she started texting and calling my cell. I told her no repeatedly and reminded her of our previous conversation. Needless to say she has turned into a bit of a nightmare clinger. A valuable lesson learned on the drawbacks of using regulars. Girls can easily get the wrong idea! Especially younger small town ones. My Beijing regulars are far more professional.

I thought this might be of interest to fellow mongers. On the up side, there seems to be plenty of SW action around the Shangri-la. Will keep you posted on developments.

Zhangsan
02-13-09, 12:37
I had been to Chengdu several times before and wondered about the KTV in the basement/carpark of the Sheraton hotel.

On my last night, I was on my own, rest of contingent having left town to travel in another direction, so decided to venture down on a week night
(Mistake 1#, always take a friend).

I arrived and was enthusiastically greeted by the staff and sat down in the main area, which consists of a stage (not in use on this week night) and several clusters of seats. They asked if I would like a drink, I asked for a beer, they brought Heineken (38RMB). Tout comes to ask about requirements etc - I think his name was Chang-Sze. Suggests I meet girls - line up of five, couple in coats clearly about to head home because of limited action (2 VIP rooms in use).

This was an impressive line up, all 7/10 or better. Chang-Sze says "take two to make party" - 300RMB each.

(Mistake 2# - this was over the money and I should have negotiated. I also figured that there the tout's cut in there somewhere).

So I pick Ching-Ching 20 yo from Chengdu, some English and ask her to pick a friend from the others. Lilly also 20yo steps forward - she is shortest at 150cm and kind of cubit dollish but very nice with moderate English. I order six beers (228RMB) and a fruit platter (128RMB) and ask about a room charge (fang fei) - no room charge I am told.

Ok so off we go to room, after a slow start we have a great time, both girls very good at singing and generally fairly physical. Lilly I would rate a 7/10, her picture does not do her justice but she had very nice skin and was great to chat with. Ching-Ching was physically hot - 8.5/10. She is very slim with large breasts: I figured they were fake; I spent some time before, during and after the singing trying to work this out. Still not sure. If they are not fake, she's a 9.5.

It reached 2am and it was time to go. I still had not decided on take out or not. I went to address the bill which was presented as 1247RMB ... hmm. I went to the counter and thought, I should just pay and get out of here with an inkling of an idea that it might be good to examine Ching-Ching more closely in my room. I had asked whether they take credit cards - YES - but they omitted to add they only take Chinese credit cards (UnionBay) and not MC, VC or AX

(Mistake 3#). Ok so the bill is inflated to the point where I don't have enough cash on me and they can't access my cards.

The manager lady starts giving it to Chang-Sze in Chinese.
He says, we must go to bank.
So we go outside where a taxi is waiting ...
Do I get in? - NO WAY!!

I suggest we take it inside to the hotel where I am staying. He is reluctant but I walk and give him no choice and the henchmen around disappear as we go into hotel. I ask for night manager, she comes out and speaks to them - asks for itemized bill (I already did ask fornthis but

Mistake 4# was not pushing issue, since even if its in Chinese they have to justify themselves) and suggests use of hotel ATM for cash. I go to ATM and get enough cash to cover. Itemized bill includes 300MB "tip" for tout and charges for cigarettes he smoked for 47RMB (no one else in room smoked). The hotel night manager looks at me and asks if I am happy to settle or whether she needs to call Police to assist me?! So I agreed to pay the bill less amounts for tip and cigarettes. Ends up around 900RMB.

I give a tip to Lilly who is still standing there and same tip to tout after he asked. I told him I would have tipped in cash and for more if he had not tried to scam me.

I am still wondering if Ching-Ching's tits are real and very much liked Lilly.

Summary:
Lots of mistakes but this may give insight into Chinese KTV issues for new guys.
The girls were actually very high quality.
The business side of things let a lot to be desired.
Check your bills and be careful.
Don't get in a taxi with these guys unless you want to be an organ donor or just fondly remembered.
BSKHey there buddy,

Having spent a great deal of time and money in Chengdu KTV's and also having become intimate friends with one of the mamasan's at a place I frequented, I hope I clarify a few things for you.

1) Pricing: 300 RMB for a 'sitting fee' is not necessarily over the money; the standard sitting fee for most decent KTV's ranges from 200 RMB to 400 RMB. I haven't heard of any rule where two girls are required though; this may be a house rule, as they are perhaps reluctant to give up a room to just one person (most people go to KTV's in groups). This is something which you can probably just argue about, especially if business is not good.

2) Fee for the tout: Paying a fee for the mamasan who brought you the girls is not unknown, and the fee is usually the same as a sitting fee, especially if they spent time hanging out or drinking a lot with you. Since there appeared to be no mamasan, the tout seems to have taken up the role and also intends to collect the money. HOWEVER, the 300 RMB for the mamasan is totally optional and solely at the discretion of the customer, unlike the fees for the girls and the drinks. It is bad form for them to put it into the bill as a total, or, for that matter, the fees for the girls; usually, the 'bill' they bring out should only include the fees for the drinks and any dishes ordered, with the tips to the girls and/or mamasan made out separately. Are you Caucasian? My best guess is that they wanted to 'streamline' the payment process for you, and if the tout ensured the mamasan tip for himself in the process, so much the better.

3) Cigarettes: Again, bad form, but not necessarily a 'scam'; it's not uncommon for people to order things like cigarettes or food, but it's always polite to ask first.

Personal conclusion: KTV's with girls in China, especially in nice places, are almost exclusively the playground of rich businessmen, who are expected to not care about certain types of behavior which people on this board would probably characterize as 'fleecing' or 'ripping off', especially since they are usually with friends or business associates; it'd cost them way too much face to quibble over a few hundred measly RMB. As a white person, you are automatically expected to have money, and they may expect you to behave with the same attitude. In your post, there was a great deal of bad form (ie, ordering cigarettes without asking, putting the tips in the actual itemized bill), but it doesn't sound like they were intentionally trying to really 'fleece' you. So don't feel too negatively towards the place, or Chengdu KTV's in general

PS: Qingqing looks very cute! Lilly, not as much, but I'll trust you when you say that the pictures didn't do her justice.

Bearsk
02-13-09, 14:49
I once had this problem with a Chinese girl in London. She really gave me the sh!tz. She started turning up at my work. On advice of a friend, I told her were going to take a kinkier turn in our relationship.
We went to the HellfireBD club or something similar a couple of blocks from Tottenham Court Rd. After several rounds of hard liquor and after she had got over the sticker shock, I convinced her to be "sold" as a submissive in the auction. I last saw her suspended in one of the dungeons downstairs ... I made sure she was OK - my friend actually won the auction since he had fantasies about her. He took care of her and took her back for several other sessions in the subsequent weeks before they split.
She never called me again ...
I am not sure if this is an option in Chengdu?
Stay safe and have a good time.



Things deteriorated after the deed. She seemed to be under the impression that I was there for her sole benefit and would want to see her for the whole of my stay (2 weeks in this case)... She left my room seemingly fine with this. Next day she started texting and calling my cell. I told her no repeatedly and reminded her of our previous conversation. Needless to say she has turned into a bit of a nightmare clinger.

Bearsk
02-13-09, 14:56
Thanks AsnDragon
I think i was save by the club being in the Sheraton building, not being totally plastered and being 198cm tall and 120kg.
In a bizaare follow up I was contacted by someone purporting to be the owner of the club who was extremely apologetic. He said he had suspended the guy involved for a month and would make sure Western credit cards are taken. Finally he offer a night at the club on them the next time I am in Chengdu.

May be a while, not sure i should risk going back! BSK


Bearsk,
Be very careful in Chengdu! As I had stated in my previous reports in Chengdu. The city is littered with scam KTV/Sauna places. Try to stay only in the high end hotels, 5 star hotels only when you are trying to experience the KTV scene.
AsnDragon

Bored In Beijing
02-15-09, 02:25
I once had this problem with a Chinese girl in London. She really gave me the sh!tz. She started turning up at my work. On advice of a friend, I told her were going to take a kinkier turn in our relationship.
We went to the HellfireBD club or something similar a couple of blocks from Tottenham Court Rd. After several rounds of hard liquor and after she had got over the sticker shock, I convinced her to be "sold" as a submissive in the auction. I last saw her suspended in one of the dungeons downstairs ... I made sure she was OK - my friend actually won the auction since he had fantasies about her. He took care of her and took her back for several other sessions in the subsequent weeks before they split.
She never called me again ...
I am not sure if this is an option in Chengdu?
Stay safe and have a good time.

Nice idea. Not sure if there are any S and M joints in Chengdu though.

Incidentally, after 3 days of texts and calling she has finally got the message.

Bearsk
02-15-09, 14:46
Do you think she read my post? Enjoy the rest of your stay.

Nice idea. Not sure if there are any S and M joints in Chengdu though.

Incidentally, after 3 days of texts and calling she has finally got the message.

Bored In Beijing
04-23-09, 15:55
Am currently back in Chengdu staying at the Shang.

The other night I ordered the in room massage. Foolishly thought it might be legit. The girl arrived in my room and immediately asked if I wanted the special. She seemed pretty nice and we agreed on RMB800. I thought she had a nice rack and boy was I pleased when she stripped off. The biggest pair of breasts I have ever seen on a Chinese girl. She was rake thin and easily had a 36/38DD rack. Totally amazing. Anyway, she gave a great service and I had a ball. Well worth it. Her name was Dan Dan if anyone wishes to follow.

Downdraft
05-04-09, 00:06
Sorry but does anyone know where to get some weed in Chengdu?

Thanks

Gz Boy
05-04-09, 14:29
Sorry but does anyone know where to get some weed in Chengdu?

ThanksDo you really expect a answer to this on this forum?

Its an interesting question for a newbies first ever post.

Doczee
05-07-09, 01:17
Sorry but does anyone know where to get some weed in Chengdu?

ThanksIn most case you can get it in KTV. You need to know the mama san and ask her for it. Most case it is really weak stuff not the same stuff you get in USA and Europe

Ham Sap Lo
05-15-09, 08:34
I have perused this thread at length and am fairly familiar with the hot spots in Chengdu, but so far, I've been unable to find any Caucasian girls (particularly Russian). Does anyone know where they hang out? I'm hoping the answer isn't Shangri-La because I don't want to pay the exhorbitant prices.

Joinem
05-15-09, 15:45
I have perused this thread at length and am fairly familiar with the hot spots in Chengdu, but so far, I've been unable to find any Caucasian girls (particularly Russian). Does anyone know where they hang out? I'm hoping the answer isn't Shangri-La because I don't want to pay the exhorbitant prices.I first stayed at the Shangri-La more than 25 years ago, when it was the place they put foreigners for overnights, and it had a different name. Spacious rooms, attendant on each floor, and little velvet covers over every TV set.

We received special currency in exchange for foreign money, currency that couldn't be confused with REAL Chinese money. The Shangri La at that time had guards posted in that little house by their driveway, to keep local citizens out!

Saw it again a couple of years ago: the hotel has certainly been tarted up, and the prices are certainly a lot higher!

Also, the scene across the east side of West Lake has changed dramatically, and is now the skyline of the big city!

BruceTea
05-15-09, 20:09
Sorry but does anyone know where to get some weed in Chengdu?

Thanks


What about opium as seen stereotypically in movies? The opium dens where brits smoke and waste their life savings? Also opium scene in joy luck club.

WooVictor
05-29-09, 08:57
I spent five nights in Chengdu last week – my longest stay there ever and also my longest trip so far this year. During my trip I explored two new spa establishments, the Hougong (Royal Haren) Spa on Renmin Nanlu section 4 and the Pearl-on-the-Water next door to Hejiangting Hotel on 138 Bingjiang donglu, about two blocks away from the Shangri La where I stayed. Here I’ll review Hougong first, and will follow up with Pearl-on-the-Water later.

I arrived Chengdu on a Tuesday afternoon. There was no meeting for me until a dinner with clients at 6pm. I took the opportunity and went to the Kempinski, hoping to enjoy a spa treatment there. Upon arrival, I was told that the spa treatment, which really consisted of a massage service, with no such fancy stuff as body wrap/scrub, nor the erotic handjob/sex, would cost 1,200 yuan for 90 minutes. Now I think that’s really too much. At this price level, you can get a very good spa treatment (no hanky panky) at a top spa establishment in most major resorts around the world. Or you can get a very good massage with at least a handjob thrown in at the top-notch saunas in China.

So I left and took a cab to a place that I saw on my way to the Kempinski, the Hougong (which can be translated as the royal harem) Spa. It’s located at a low-rise (may be six to seven floors) commercial centre on Renmin Nanlu, about two to three blocks north of the Kempinski. Within the same building were the Red Lotus International Club (should be a nightclub), a restaurant, and some other shops. If I remember correctly, it is at or near the intersection with Nijiaqiao road and Embassy road.

It appeared that quite a few shops at that commercial centre were undergoing renovation, but the security guard at the street level entrance confirmed that the spa was indeed open. I took the elevator up to the fourth floor, and was greeted by a young man who led me down the corridor to one of the VIP rooms. My room was very big, probably 35-40 square metres, with its own shower/toilet, a round bed, a love chair, as well as a small open area for pole dancing (yes, there was a pole there, but I didn’t bother with a dance). The decoration was not very good and clearly needed a facelift, and I’d say hygiene was tolerable at best. I also found the lighting insufficient (I prefer to have commercial sex in a brightly lit environment).

Anyway, a mamasan dressed in a low-cut business suit came in and brought two to three girls for me to choose from. None of them was attractive, and I asked for a second round. All in all, I saw about 10 girls in three rounds, and the average quality was about 5-7. Eventually I picked a northeastern girl named Su Dan, who was well-built (but not really fat) with a pair of great tits, but only average face.

She helped me undress, and we proceeded to have a shower together. During the shower, while she was washing me, I also washed her ****. (I try to do that whenever possible, not only for fun but also to help ensure that the girl is clean enough for me. Not all girls like this, so this is very much a hit-and-miss thing). Su was quite receptive to my approach, and I raised the stake by assaulting her backdoor. Surprisingly, she didn’t put up much resistance. Encouraged, I turned her around with her back towards me, told her to lean on the wall and raise her buttock. She complied quietly, and soon I was finger-fucking her two holes with my right hand and rubbing her clitoris with my left hand all at the same time. It didn’t take me too long to bring her to orgasm.

After drying ourselves, we moved on to the round bed where she performed the cat-bath and rimming ritual on me. Her skills were pretty good, but one thing worth mentioning was the fire-job. I’ve never heard of it before, and I’m not very sure if I would want to do it again. This was done when I was lying face up, after the routine ice-and-fire blowjob (no condom, using ice cubes and warm water). Su fetched a small, shallow dish of some 12-15cm in diameter, poured some transparent liquid (she said it was Chinese liquor) into it, and then set it on fire with her lighter. It was a small fire, but it was fire nevertheless and I’m not a big fan of playing with fire in bed. (What if you upset the plate and spill the liquor on your body and the bed, thus setting you on fire?) Anyway, the fearless Su then put her hand into the liquor, and then patted the liquor on my dick. No, my dick didn’t catch fire, but it was hot – much hotter than the warm water that she held in her mouth to do the ice-fire blowjob. In all fairness, I’d say the hot sensation was great, but I was concerned about safety. After all, my mom has always told me not to play with fire. If any brother has tried this fire-job, please share your experience and let's try to improve it.

As she performed all sorts of services on my body, I also had my hands (and mouth) full literally with her great tits, which must be at least 34C. After a while I pulled her up to sit on my face. At first I only wanted to finger fuck her, but soon she requested that I ate her. Seeing that her labia still looked pink and clean, I decided to take the risk and DATY. She probably was not very experienced in this department, and soon climaxed.

We then moved on to the love-chair. Those who have never seen it probably want to google it, but I’ll try to describe it briefly here. It looks like a big and comfortable armchair built on a small platform. Directly in front of the chair is a small stool sitting on a rail, which allows the stool to go back and forth in front of the chair. On each of the arm rests there is a wooden plank that can be unfolded so that it extends out of the chair by about half a metre to form the leg rests. The girl reclines on the chair, spreads her legs and put them on the leg rests. You can sit on the stool, or you can straddle it standing. This puts you in a perfect position for fucking the girl endlessly. It is of course possible to change your position, but I’m not an expert as I’ve had it only for two or three times.

I first fucked Su just the way I described above. It was great because the love-chair made it such an easy job. Then I decided that I wanted anal, and she willingly knelt on the seat, holding on to the back of the chair. Unfortunately, it was difficult for me to enter her backside, and I had no idea why that was the case. So I get her to lean back on the chair again, with her buttock extended out of the chair and her legs high above her head. With some difficulty, I managed to push all the way into her anus. Thanks to the design of the love-chair, I was soon rocking and rolling in her backside, causing considerable pain on my girl. For I could see that she was very tense, and she was sweating profusely. I asked if she wanted me to stop, and she just told me to be gentle. Finally I shot my load, but I stayed inside her for a couple more minutes before I eased out of her. It was indeed my most memorable anal ever (in fact it was only the fourth or fifth anal that I’ve ever had).

We then showered together and dressed up. Before I left, I gave her a 100 yuan tip. She didn’t ask for it, but I thought that I should be nice to such a willing girl. Then I went to the front desk to pay – 680 yuan for two hours of fun. Great value, though I probably won’t return unless they refurbish the place.

Ham Sap Lo
06-01-09, 08:53
What a great report on the Hougong. I am going to have to check that one out. I think I will refrain from checking out the fire job though!

WooVictor, have you or any others come across a place in Chengdu where you can see the girls "fishbowl" style instead of having them come to you 2-3 at a time? Or, a place with Caucasian/African girls? Yes, I know this is China, but it just seems like there is very little variety in Chengdu. All the places I've seen (Coral, Xinhua park) are the typical spa setup where they bring you a bunch of girls and if you're picky like me, you have to send them back a whole bunch of times.

WooVictor
06-02-09, 07:13
No, I haven't come across a "fishbowl" in Chengdu yet. As for Caucasian girls, I've heard that there are Russian girls at the Kempinski nightclub (3/F or 4/F, I can't remember), but I've never been there and so am unable to verify this rumour. African girls are probably even harder to come by. You could try to hang around the Sichuan University and see if you might get lucky. Happy hunting!




What a great report on the Hougong. I am going to have to check that one out. I think I will refrain from checking out the fire job though!

WooVictor, have you or any others come across a place in Chengdu where you can see the girls "fishbowl" style instead of having them come to you 2-3 at a time? Or, a place with Caucasian/African girls? Yes, I know this is China, but it just seems like there is very little variety in Chengdu. All the places I've seen (Coral, Xinhua park) are the typical spa setup where they bring you a bunch of girls and if you're picky like me, you have to send them back a whole bunch of times.