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OldAsiaHand
10-10-08, 10:32
I haven't visited one during my last visit in GZ, but I had imagined that BBS would not offer much luxury except pleasure.
As I realize you are one of the most experienced in GZ forum, could you tell us where is the best place to pick up girls? Any specific bar? Is there still a lot of action around Garden Hotel?
Please clear the picture for us if you know!
Thanks

Ericklein,

I do not monger much in the city since I stay in the suburbs. That said, I was by the Garden Hotel yesterday and still saw the LE hanging on the corner across from Starbucks. I didn't check the situation on the other side of Huanshi Rd. in the direction of the Gitic.

I have not been in the bars in a long time so I cannot comment.

I am sorry I cannot be of more help.

OAH

Ericklein
10-10-08, 13:52
Too bad that there is no response about the updated information on Guanzghou...
I suppose after the fair, the forum will be full of reports, but it will be too late!
Good luck to us guys!

Deep Fritz
10-11-08, 01:10
Too bad that there is no response about the updated information on Guanzghou.

I suppose after the fair, the forum will be full of reports, but it will be too late! Good luck to us guys! Sorry to say, but there is nothing new to report on the Guangzhou situation recently.

You will find FLs as usual around Garden Hotel, in the street beside between Starbucks and the Tang disco, on the other street side around the bars there (Hill Bar etc.).

The quality is mixed, I never experienced it as great, its a hit or miss. I had some hits the last few years, even some regulars but rather seldom compared with other bigger hunting grounds in China (Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, DG).

I would not be scared by the LE in this area, they belong to it like regulars.

The bigger problem is that the hotels in this area are not GF, with the Garden as the top runner with the "off-limits-policy" after 11 pm. But after 11 pm the life starts for me. If you search than you will find some hotels mentioned here which are different. The Ka Ying is one of those addresses along the Huanshi Lu. Its not a five-star place, but excellent for all mongering activities.

I am talking mainly about FLs, not about the BBS, KTV or Saune scene. If you are patient enough, not fixed on a certain type of girl or narrow minded in your expectations, then you will get your share, may be not every night, but then every second.

I am a frequent visitor in GZ since ten years and I have been seldom left this city disappointed. I am somehow fixed on happy nights in the LT mode which is generally more difficult than ST. When I have been hunting from place to place fixed on a special type of girl, driven with a short time window then I have been never successful in Guangzhou, because simply there is no big selection: its not Wanchai, not Nana, not OT, not TongRenLu.

But on the other side when I left my day behind me in a relaxed mindset, sitting over a beer in Cave, Tang or Hill Bar without the compulsive behavior to find a certain type of lady now and not later, . Then I have been almost every time lucky and with a satisfied feeling on the next morning.

On the first view all those places in GZ are not attractive. But if you give yourself the chance for a second relaxed view you will find always a jewel for the night. Then its in your hand to have done the right hotel selection in advance (which is the bigger problem because of this damned restricted policy in most of the big hotels).

In my observations this situation has been stable over the years in GZ, with or without LE, during the trade fair or outside these two hot periods. Of cause the price negotiations are more difficult during the fair time.

The reports on GZ in this forum are like flashlights with a short lifecycle: one day the "Street of Gold" has been excellent during a certain night, on another day its near Tang disco or the street behind the Garden. The places are not really changing, but the extend of activity can be very different from night to night. So don't be fixed, stroll around, be relaxed, take your time for a "second or third view", then you will have success even without the "latest flashlight" reports here on ISG.

Happy hunting!

DF

Ericklein
10-13-08, 13:43
Thanks a lot Deep Fritz for the information.
Have you had any experience of non-chinese girls somewhere in Guangzhou?
A few reports back, it is mentioned that around Marriot Mcdonalds there are Russians to be found.
I would be very happy if that is true.

Deep Fritz
10-13-08, 14:30
Thanks a lot Deep Fritz for the information.

Have you had any experience of non-chinese girls somewhere in Guangzhou?
A few reports back, it is mentioned that around Marriot Mcdonalds there are Russians to be found.

I would be very happy if that is true.No, I never had any other experience beside Chinese girls in GZ.

I have seen once in a while African ladies, also some Russians in the disco scene, but I was not hunting for them.

DF

Moe Hassan
10-14-08, 13:14
Hello fellow mongers!

This is my first report on this site after joining here a few days back.

I will be travelling to GZ on November 1st, 2008 for the first time. I have done mongering in places like Bangkok, Singapore, Kualalampur, Toronto, Winnipeg, Montreal and a few other places. However this would be my first time in China and Guangzhou to be more specific.

I have been going through a lot of reports posted here by a lot of experienced mongers and have gathered quite a bit of knowledge. Yet I feel I need to have more info. I will definitely be posting my reports with pictures after my visit to GZ(will be back on the 8th Nov.)

What I have gathered so far is that Street walkers are found around Garden Hotel and Starbucks with some hanging around the nearby club Tang/Hill bar. I also recall a few members mentioning about Law enforcement people hanging in the corners. Now my question is:

1. Are they of any trouble? What if they catch me talking to a SW and bargaining?

I guess the prices range from Rmb 300 ST to Rmb 700/800 LT for SWs. Please let me know if the info is right or wrong and how much do they usually increase during the canton fair time.

I also learnt that KTV, Sauna and spa's are places where Full service can be acquired. I understand they charge a bit more which would probably range from anywhere Rmb 500 to Rmb 1000 for ST. I guess I have to bargain with the mamasan/papasan about this. I also found out that Sauna's/Spa's sometimes only offer handjobs and with some exception to blowjob (the infamous fire/ice)

I also got to know that there are BBS which caters services with relatively cheaper price than the sauna/spa/KTV.

Now, my question would be to all of you guyz who've been to GZ and experienced the heavenly pleasures:

1. Can you please mention some good KTV/SPA/SAUNA places with their addresses?

2. Can someone please tell me about the Club Tang scene/Hill bar scene where I am actually planning to go for some freebies if possible for the whole night.

Lastly, I have learnt that there are russians asking for Rmb 1000 hanging out in clubs like Club Tang. I wonder if there's any where else to find them besides that bar only. I also got to know that some hotels are not Girl friendly after 11pm. More of a upper class hotels that is. I will be staying at a budget hotel called 'Garden Inn' hotel at yangjing road. I hope that won't be a problem for bringing girls after 11pm. I understand that I can register them for the night if it comes to the worst scenerio.

If anyone of you guyz have stayed or knows about this hotel 'Garden Inn' on yangjing road please notify me about the close proximity happening places. I would be really grateful to you.

BTW, I guess I should mention that Saunas/Spas/Ktvs can be found in almost all hotels on the 3rd/4th/5th floors and almost every one of them offers some kind of pleasurable service that we look for.

I wish all of you happy hunting wherever you are and wait for my report after I visit GZ this November.

Till then, Ciao!

Ericklein
10-17-08, 18:33
I have a detailed report coming guys, but I mention the important points:

This is not a GF friendly hotel. I had a big discussion with the hoitel manager to let a girl come up to my room and that was before 11.00 p.m. After 11.00 FORGET IT!!!!

The restaurant is VERY chinese food oriented

There is not hot water all the time

The breakfast is also Chinese oriented.

Most of the stuff doesn't speak english

If you don't mind about all these things, HAVE A PLEASANT STAY!

Ericklein
10-17-08, 18:42
Hello fellow mongers!

This is my first report on this site after joining here a few days back.

I will be travelling to GZ on November 1st, 2008 for the first time. I have done mongering in places like Bangkok, Singapore, Kualalampur, Toronto, Winnipeg, Montreal and a few other places. However this would be my first time in China and Guangzhou to be more specific.

I have been going through a lot of reports posted here by a lot of experienced mongers and have gathered quite a bit of knowledge. Yet I feel I need to have more info. I will definitely be posting my reports with pictures after my visit to GZ(will be back on the 8th Nov.)

What I have gathered so far is that Street walkers are found around Garden Hotel and Starbucks with some hanging around the nearby club Tang/Hill bar. I also recall a few members mentioning about Law enforcement people hanging in the corners. Now my question is:

1. Are they of any trouble? What if they catch me talking to a SW and bargaining?

I guess the prices range from Rmb 300 ST to Rmb 700/800 LT for SWs. Please let me know if the info is right or wrong and how much do they usually increase during the canton fair time.

I also learnt that KTV, Sauna and spa's are places where Full service can be acquired. I understand they charge a bit more which would probably range from anywhere Rmb 500 to Rmb 1000 for ST. I guess I have to bargain with the mamasan/papasan about this. I also found out that Sauna's/Spa's sometimes only offer handjobs and with some exception to blowjob (the infamous fire/ice)

I also got to know that there are BBS which caters services with relatively cheaper price than the sauna/spa/KTV.

Now, my question would be to all of you guyz who've been to GZ and experienced the heavenly pleasures:

1. Can you please mention some good KTV/SPA/SAUNA places with their addresses?

2. Can someone please tell me about the Club Tang scene/Hill bar scene where I am actually planning to go for some freebies if possible for the whole night.

Lastly, I have learnt that there are russians asking for Rmb 1000 hanging out in clubs like Club Tang. I wonder if there's any where else to find them besides that bar only. I also got to know that some hotels are not Girl friendly after 11pm. More of a upper class hotels that is. I will be staying at a budget hotel called 'Garden Inn' hotel at yangjing road. I hope that won't be a problem for bringing girls after 11pm. I understand that I can register them for the night if it comes to the worst scenerio.

If anyone of you guyz have stayed or knows about this hotel 'Garden Inn' on yangjing road please notify me about the close proximity happening places. I would be really grateful to you.

BTW, I guess I should mention that Saunas/Spas/Ktvs can be found in almost all hotels on the 3rd/4th/5th floors and almost every one of them offers some kind of pleasurable service that we look for.

I wish all of you happy hunting wherever you are and wait for my report after I visit GZ this November.

Till then, Ciao!

You can find many SW around Mcdonads, opposite China Marriot.
I don't have much time now for full reports, but I will be reporting on this weekend. I can give you some information.
I hate to dissapoint you, but most of the good hotels don't allow any guests in the hotels after 11.00 pm during the canton fair. The good news is, that the girls know hotels that cost RMB 80 and the job is done.

Mmlouie
10-17-08, 20:49
Hello fellow mongers!

What I have gathered so far is that Street walkers are found around Garden Hotel and Starbucks with some hanging around the nearby club Tang/Hill bar. I also recall a few members mentioning about Law enforcement people hanging in the corners.

Now my question is:

Right across from the garden hotel is a lot of SW, but it is a hit and miss. There are also couple of clubs along that streets and I forgot their names, I am sure other member could chime in on this one. A lot of hotties are situated there but they could be pricey. Just walk around that area, it is quite interesting.I wouldn't worry about the LE in China, they are pretty much useless and money will take care of most situations. But do it tactfully!

Mmlouie
10-18-08, 00:12
I wouldn't worry about the LE in China, they are pretty much useless and money will take care of most situations. But do it tactfully!This part go chop off; (Right across from the garden hotel is a lot of SW, but it is a hit and miss. There are also couple of clubs along that streets and I forgot their names, I am sure other member could chime in on this one. A lot of hotties are situated there but they could be pricey. Just walk around that area, it is quite interesting.)

Asia Butterfly
10-19-08, 20:34
Can any of you mongers give me some information on Zhongsan China. I want to know if any action is available at the Shangri La there. What about the Zhongsan international?

Thanks

Ericklein
10-22-08, 18:21
Sorry for not writting the reports yet guys. I have been extremely busy...
I am attaching the card of the mamasan I spoke with. Call her and she will do everything possible to service you!
She (and others) are waiting in front of Mcdonalds opposite China Marriot Hotel
Reports coming....

Fast Eddie 48
10-23-08, 22:11
Can any of you mongers give me some information on Zhongsan China. I want to know if any action is available at the Shangri La there. What about the Zhongsan international?

ThanksAsia Butt,

Wrong thread go to south china all area you will find some info.

Fast eddie 48

Han Man
10-23-08, 22:37
Sory for the non mongering question, but I know I am dealing with experts of all types here. WHat is the best and fatest way to get from the GZ airport to Hong Kong? I read about the GZ to Shenzhen bus and train, are they the same?

I stay at the Novatel at the airport my first night. Any action there? I arrive late and will be wasted but a nice massage or special attention would be well received after my travels.

Thanks, Han Man

Ericklein
10-24-08, 12:31
I arrived in GZ and got a taxi to my hotel. I was staying in South America Grand Hotel. FYI, don't take any taxi from the drivers within the arrival area, but get out of the airport and get an official registered taxi. Ii was cost you much less!
I registered by an escort site (paid USD70) and got the tel. numbers of about 15 escort girls in GZ. Most of the numbers did not exist any more, some of them did not speak english and one of them was not living in GZ.
Just two girls were available to come, so I invited one of them to come. They were not really in the top of my list, but I didn't want to get out of the room and go for hunting, since I was already tired from the trip.
We agreed that she would come at 10 p.m.
She came on time and I got a tel. call from the reception that a guest is waiting to come upstairs. I told them that I am expecting a guest and I aksed them to let me guest come to my room.
I was looking forward for the nice time I would have!
After more than 10 minutes, nobody came, so I decided to call the girl and ask her where she was. She was very upset and told me that the manager refused to let her come to my room. I was very surprised and went down to find her and talked to her.
She was waiting outside of the hotel and I could see that she was realy upset and stressed. So long nice evening I thought.
Anyway, I took her and told her to come upstrairs with me and I would settle it. We went to the lift and up to the floor. I knew that there is a security in front of the elevator, so I didn;t expect that the problems were over. As expected, the guard stopped her and called the manager. The manager came after a few minutes and explained to me that it is a rule that during the canton fair they don't let any visitors get in guest's rooms at night and not even in the day, if they don't carry passport with them.
Unfortunately the girl didnt have her passport with her.
After some long discussions, they let her to come into my room till 11.00 p.m. It was already 10.40 p.m.
The girl was quite stressed and so was I. I was very disappointed, because I was going to stay there for another 2 nights and I would have the same problem each time!
Anyway, we went to the room and hat a BBBJ and a quicky.
11.10 p.m. she was out....
Things got better in the third night. More to that coming next week, since I have to go now.

Ericklein
10-24-08, 12:40
I have a detailed report coming guys, but I mention the important points:

This is not a GF friendly hotel. I had a big discussion with the hoitel manager to let a girl come up to my room and that was before 11.00 p.m. After 11.00 FORGET IT!!!!

The restaurant is VERY chinese food oriented

There is not hot water all the time

The breakfast is also Chinese oriented.

Most of the stuff doesn't speak english

If you don't mind about all these things, HAVE A PLEASANT STAY!

I forgot to mention: NOT EVEN ONE english or international TV channel

Anonnomus
10-24-08, 16:43
Sorry for not writting the reports yet guys. I have been extremely busy...

I am attaching the card of the mamasan I spoke with. Call her and she will do everything possible to service you!

She (and others) are waiting in front of Mcdonalds opposite China Marriot Hotel
Reports coming....Ericklein,

Any problems getting girls into the Marriott?

Anon

Bkk212
10-25-08, 14:29
Saw your write up on the website and was surprised to see Wpg on your list. I am from Wpg. but living in Shantou, China now.

Anyway my question howwas the hotel that you stayed in? GF or not? Price and quality.

As I will be travelling to Guaz sometime shortly I wouldlike to know about less priced hotels other than JW etc.




Hello fellow mongers!

This is my first report on this site after joining here a few days back.

I will be travelling to GZ on November 1st, 2008 for the first time. I have done mongering in places like Bangkok, Singapore, Kualalampur, Toronto, Winnipeg, Montreal and a few other places. However this would be my first time in China and Guangzhou to be more specific.

I have been going through a lot of reports posted here by a lot of experienced mongers and have gathered quite a bit of knowledge. Yet I feel I need to have more info. I will definitely be posting my reports with pictures after my visit to GZ(will be back on the 8th Nov.)

What I have gathered so far is that Street walkers are found around Garden Hotel and Starbucks with some hanging around the nearby club Tang/Hill bar. I also recall a few members mentioning about Law enforcement people hanging in the corners. Now my question is:

1. Are they of any trouble? What if they catch me talking to a SW and bargaining?

I guess the prices range from Rmb 300 ST to Rmb 700/800 LT for SWs. Please let me know if the info is right or wrong and how much do they usually increase during the canton fair time.

I also learnt that KTV, Sauna and spa's are places where Full service can be acquired. I understand they charge a bit more which would probably range from anywhere Rmb 500 to Rmb 1000 for ST. I guess I have to bargain with the mamasan/papasan about this. I also found out that Sauna's/Spa's sometimes only offer handjobs and with some exception to blowjob (the infamous fire/ice)

I also got to know that there are BBS which caters services with relatively cheaper price than the sauna/spa/KTV.

Now, my question would be to all of you guyz who've been to GZ and experienced the heavenly pleasures:

1. Can you please mention some good KTV/SPA/SAUNA places with their addresses?

2. Can someone please tell me about the Club Tang scene/Hill bar scene where I am actually planning to go for some freebies if possible for the whole night.

Lastly, I have learnt that there are russians asking for Rmb 1000 hanging out in clubs like Club Tang. I wonder if there's any where else to find them besides that bar only. I also got to know that some hotels are not Girl friendly after 11pm. More of a upper class hotels that is. I will be staying at a budget hotel called 'Garden Inn' hotel at yangjing road. I hope that won't be a problem for bringing girls after 11pm. I understand that I can register them for the night if it comes to the worst scenerio.

If anyone of you guyz have stayed or knows about this hotel 'Garden Inn' on yangjing road please notify me about the close proximity happening places. I would be really grateful to you.

BTW, I guess I should mention that Saunas/Spas/Ktvs can be found in almost all hotels on the 3rd/4th/5th floors and almost every one of them offers some kind of pleasurable service that we look for.

I wish all of you happy hunting wherever you are and wait for my report after I visit GZ this November.

Till then, Ciao!

Bkk212
10-25-08, 14:31
Hi,
Yes, I have read the forum from page 12 to the beginning and it mentions teh Ka Ying hotel in two posts.

However there is no detail info about this hotel other than it is close to Garden Hotel.

How about the price, the quality and how to book this hotel.

Thanks.

Deep Fritz
10-25-08, 17:39
Hi,

Yes, I have read the forum from page 12 to the beginning and it mentions the Ka Ying hotel in two posts.

However there is no detail info about this hotel other than it is close to Garden Hotel.

How about the price, the quality and how to book this hotel.

Thanks. My God, . I have given a very detailed description how to WALK from the Garden Hotel to Kaying.

Beside this there is a well known worldwide search-machine (you don't need a proxy for this page in China, its such easy.):

Just type in 'KAYING HOTEL GUANGZHOU'

. What a wonder, I don't know which God provides all the informations with address, stars, prices, map. Even the address for the local taxi driver from remote hunan. If he is able to read, which I guess since I have a high opinion about Hunan people (. Of cause mainly about the girls from there.).

Then after all the stress in your research work we will be very happy to know what are the results. Please make a little contribution within this forum what are the results of your work.

Then continue to ask and we will be very happy to answer all your questions on a level which will be more in accordance with the intentions of this forum and what might be not answered by the well known search-machine.

Now I am looking forward to your results and the corresponding report!

Moe Hassan
10-26-08, 07:07
Hey Bkk,

Glad to have a fellow winnipeger on this site. I live in winnipeg,born and brought up here.

Anyways,about your question....yes mate,this hotel is a Girl friendly hotel and doesnt have any problem in allowing girls after 11pm. U just have to register them at the front desk if she's staying over night. Secondly,it's very cheap compared to other hotels. I must let you know that this is a budget hotel with the price of USD$ 29/night after canton fair. I stayed at the business suite which isnt bad.

Well,hopefully I answered your question.

Happy hunting.

Moe.

Ericklein
10-27-08, 15:04
Ericklein,

Any problems getting girls into the Marriott?

Anon

I am not sure about Marriot, but I think most of the hotels during the canton fair have strickt regulations....
Good luck

Mas 147
10-27-08, 17:13
This is not a girl friendly hotel unless you sneak her in before 10pm.
Mas147

Ericklein
10-29-08, 16:14
Finally found some time to write my second report

I returned to the hotel and was quite tired. After 2-3 hours of relaxing, the hunters instinct woke up!
I had a plan: Since no visits were allowed after 11.00 p.m., I should arrange a visit at 8.00 p.m.! The plan was to find somebody this night and invite her to come on the next evening to my room. I took a taxi to the Garden Hotel and walked to the bars on the opposite site. I only saw one SW and she was not nice at all.
I went into a bar and took a seat, but the music was extremely loud and I wouldn't be able to speak with any girl, so I had a drink quickly and left.
I walked around for a few minutes and saw no action. I didn't have much time, since it was getting late, so I took a taxi to the China Marriot.
As soon as I got out of the taxi, I realized that the situation is much better here. A few girls were waiting for customers and also two "agents" were all over me. I talked to one of them and asked her if she has russian girls. She answered yes, but told me that they are expensive. I didn't have a problem with that, but I told her it's for tomorrow and not for today. I took her card (you can see it in a previous post of mine) and was ready to leave. She asked me then if I wouldn't be interested in a chinese girl for tonight. Ii told her that my hotel is not GF and she said she can take me to a hotel just nearby for 80 Rmb. The girl was there in no time, even before I agree. She told me that she would come with me for 400+80 for hotel.
The girl was very young and cute. I couldn't refuse. We took a taxi and went to the hotel. Very basic, but not dirty as I was afraid of. For the case, it was just fine.
We underessed, had a shower and went to bed. She wanted to give me a CBJ, but I insisted on BBBJ (my favorite sport :)
It was the worst BBBJ of my life..... The girl was doing it really wrong! After a few minutes she was complaining that she could not do it any more and it was fine with me, since I could not really enjoy it. She then jumped on it and enjoyed the ride...
I finished in this position and I was ready to go to the hotel for a good night sleep.
Next report coming for the last night....

Ericklein
10-31-08, 12:08
I had arranged the Russian girl to come to my room at around 8.00 p.m.
Unfortunately the agent called me and told me that the girl was working all night and she wanted to relax before coming to my room. I explained to her the problem with the 11.00 p.m. limitation again, but she said it wouldn't be a problem, because she is not chinese.
I went for a clean and professional massage in the hotel spa and returned at around 10.00. She called me and said that they are coming now. I said ok and went to the lobby to wait for her. They showed up half an hour later, but the girl was not the young sexy girl I asked for!!!! She was at her late 30's with some more kilos than I like. I told the agent, that this is not exactly when I was expecting and she wanted to negotiate price :D. I said "no thanks" and went to the elevator to go upstairs. She then told me that there is another girl much better and she would try to reach her. I had nothing to loose, so I sat with her in the lobby and waited. It was very funny to watch her trying to arrange girls for every westener she saw in the lobby :).
She was calling and calling and calling, but no results!!! To cut the story short, she arranged a chinese girl to come and if the security would let her pass, I would pay after in the room.
I was very surprised that the security (the same that didn't let the other girl pass) asked her a few questions and then he let her pass!!!! I think the girl that came on the first night had a really bad attidute with the security guy and that's why we had such a big trouble letting her in.
I think her name was Lili. She was very nice and really did everything I told her. BBBJ and many positions. I thought I paid for 1 round, but she stayed for a second round as well. It was a nice surprise! I was very happy, so I gave her a good tip!

Sqeclipse
11-05-08, 06:28
Any bros been to the KTV in Royal Hotel in GZ? HOw much does it take to take a girls out? A friend said the girls there are HOT and the price is cheap!

Thanks

I am heading back to GZ in Jan 09, if any bros want to meet up

Ericklein
11-05-08, 14:46
So many thousand visitors in the Canton fair and no reports?
Where are the reports guys?

Weelock
11-05-08, 19:08
So many thousand visitors in the Canton fair and no reports?
Where are the reports guys?

This happens every year, newbies asking for help and information during the fair in April/Oct. They promise to post a report afterwards. When the fairs over, majority will disappear and only 2 to 3 might post a report.

Cdnlapcheong
11-05-08, 20:07
Any bros been to the KTV in Royal Hotel in GZ? HOw much does it take to take a girls out? A friend said the girls there are HOT and the price is cheap!

Thanks

I am heading back to GZ in Jan 09, if any bros want to meet upStay there 3 weeks ago but did not venture to the KTV. Wished I did now!

I went out to a club and hooked up with a sweetie. Iill be back there in a week. I'll let everyone know if I ended checking out the KTV. I usually don't go to KTV unless I'm with 2 or more people.

Sqeclipse
11-07-08, 01:21
Looks like no bros been there yet?

Heading back for new years, so I'll try to remember the name and address for report.


Stay there 3 weeks ago but did not venture to the KTV. Wished I did now!

I went out to a club and hooked up with a sweetie. Iill be back there in a week. I'll let everyone know if I ended checking out the KTV. I usually don't go to KTV unless I'm with 2 or more people.

Spideyian
11-08-08, 14:59
This happens every year, newbies asking for help and information during the fair in April/Oct. They promise to post a report afterwards. When the fairs over, majority will disappear and only 2 to 3 might post a report.Is the fair a good time to visit GZ for this?

Panettone
11-08-08, 23:50
Has anyone got info on the scene in Zhao Qing? I'll be there from Nov. 30th til Dec 2nd for a holiday. I'm staying at the Dynasty Hotel which has a sauna. Does anyone know if it offers full service?

Anyone who is in Zhao Qing on those days, please PM me and we'll try to hook up for sauna or KTV.

Also, I'm posting to the GZ board as I couldn't find a more appropriate one. If there is a better board for Zhao Qing, please let me know.

Panettone

Afriend995
11-09-08, 14:39
I am not sure about Marriot, but I think most of the hotels during the canton fair have strickt regulations.

Good luckI was recently there and had ZERO issues. If you are worried, meet/take the girl at Starbucks on the first floor, and just walk into the hotel from there.

When I was there 2 weeks ago for phase 2 of the Fair, I had met a new friend the week before at Phase 1 of the Canton Fair.- I had stayed at a different hotel. I had reserved the room at the Marriott for 2 people and got 2 keys at check-in. My friend met me the first evening at Starbucks about 1 hour after I checked in, and from there on for the next 3 days we simply acted as if we were both staying there. Obviously, this requires a bit more trust than most will likely show a working girl, but since I was not paying until the end of 3 days, and since I had already spent 3 days with her earlier, I was not concerned. Obviously, the lady also has to have a bit of class! My friend likely just appeared to be from HK or perhaps a western-born/residing Chinese.

Ericklein
11-10-08, 14:50
I was recently there and had ZERO issues. If you are worried, meet/take the girl at Starbucks on the first floor, and just walk into the hotel from there.

When I was there 2 weeks ago for phase 2 of the Fair, I had met a new friend the week before at Phase 1 of the Canton Fair.- I had stayed at a different hotel. I had reserved the room at the Marriott for 2 people and got 2 keys at check-in. My friend met me the first evening at Starbucks about 1 hour after I checked in, and from there on for the next 3 days we simply acted as if we were both staying there. Obviously, this requires a bit more trust than most will likely show a working girl, but since I was not paying until the end of 3 days, and since I had already spent 3 days with her earlier, I was not concerned. Obviously, the lady also has to have a bit of class! My friend likely just appeared to be from HK or perhaps a western-born/residing Chinese.

You mean you had one and the same person coming in for 3 days?

Ericklein
11-10-08, 14:51
Is the fair a good time to visit GZ for this?

Your question is not clear....
Are you asking if someone should visit the fair just for reporting to the forum???????????????????????????????????????????

Anonnomus
11-10-08, 15:28
I was recently there and had ZERO issues. If you are worried, meet/take the girl at Starbucks on the first floor, and just walk into the hotel from there.

When I was there 2 weeks ago for phase 2 of the Fair, I had met a new friend the week before at Phase 1 of the Canton Fair.- I had stayed at a different hotel. I had reserved the room at the Marriott for 2 people and got 2 keys at check-in. My friend met me the first evening at Starbucks about 1 hour after I checked in, and from there on for the next 3 days we simply acted as if we were both staying there. Obviously, this requires a bit more trust than most will likely show a working girl, but since I was not paying until the end of 3 days, and since I had already spent 3 days with her earlier, I was not concerned. Obviously, the lady also has to have a bit of class! My friend likely just appeared to be from HK or perhaps a western-born/residing Chinese.Stayed there 11/7 thru 11/9. First night, called girl up from CL. She showed up downstairs, and I went down to get her. Tried to get on elevator, but guard stopped us and said she had to register. Did the walk of shame, but really no problems getting her in. First time using this service, and paid too much and got lousy service--phone call from "boss", no making out, did hit it in a couple of positions before popping. Wouldn't repeat, but nice to know hotel does allow girls, although I wouldn't classify them as "friendly".

Weelock
11-10-08, 18:49
I had arranged the Russian girl to come to my room at around 8.00 p.m.
Unfortunately the agent called me and told me that the girl was working all night and she wanted to relax before coming to my room. I explained to her the problem with the 11.00 p.m. limitation again, but she said it wouldn't be a problem, because she is not chinese.
I went for a clean and professional massage in the hotel spa and returned at around 10.00. She called me and said that they are coming now. I said ok and went to the lobby to wait for her. They showed up half an hour later, but the girl was not the young sexy girl I asked for!!!! She was at her late 30's with some more kilos than I like. I told the agent, that this is not exactly when I was expecting and she wanted to negotiate price :D. I said "no thanks" and went to the elevator to go upstairs. She then told me that there is another girl much better and she would try to reach her. I had nothing to loose, so I sat with her in the lobby and waited. It was very funny to watch her trying to arrange girls for every westener she saw in the lobby :).
She was calling and calling and calling, but no results!!! To cut the story short, she arranged a chinese girl to come and if the security would let her pass, I would pay after in the room.
I was very surprised that the security (the same that didn't let the other girl pass) asked her a few questions and then he let her pass!!!! I think the girl that came on the first night had a really bad attidute with the security guy and that's why we had such a big trouble letting her in.
I think her name was Lili. She was very nice and really did everything I told her. BBBJ and many positions. I thought I paid for 1 round, but she stayed for a second round as well. It was a nice surprise! I was very happy, so I gave her a good tip!

Ericklien:

How much was the first older Russian girl asking ?
Then how much was Lili ?

Thks.......



Could you please give me some more information on the hotel (like address or maybe a picture). I found 5 hotels named Royal in Guangzhou.
Any of you guys have experience in Grand Hyatt or Ritz Carlton?
I will be there during the fair and the choices are not so many any more.
I need a GF hotel!

For GF Hotels, in general the higher price hotels the more girl unfriendly. In other words, the cheaper hotels are more likely to be GF hotels. Sorry cannot help specifically with Hyatt and Carlton.




"Wenn Du Ficken willst, muss du freundlich sein!", which means "If you want to fuck, you have to be friendly". I got this quote from one of your reports from around the world. :) Good to know.

OldAsiaHand
11-11-08, 03:47
This happens every year, newbies asking for help and information during the fair in April/Oct. They promise to post a report afterwards. When the fairs over, majority will disappear and only 2 to 3 might post a report.

This is why I never post a reply to their queries in the first place. They ask all the newbie questions, do not RTFF and never post a report.

They arrive in GZ with pockets full of money, overpay for action and leave the WGs with the impression that all foreigners are BSD. After they leave, it always takes time before the girls to return to reality.

Just my POV.

OAH

Danton
11-12-08, 06:00
Guys,

Just spent some time reading through this forum and first off would like to say what a wonderful source of information it is. Anyway, glad to have joined and hope I can contribute and perhaps catch up with some of you in person in the near future.

I will travel to GZ soon and have a couple of questions (I am mindful of comments relating to helping new posters and getting nothing in return — so I will make sure I play by the rules).

I used to live in GZ, about 5 years ago, but haven't been there since then. Not many mongering tales to tell from that time as I was living with GF. Some funny stories which I can get into later but obviously due to timing they are a little irrelevant now and purely anecdotal.

So questions for now.

Will be staying at Holiday Inn — any experiences there at SPA etc or policy on girls to rooms? (get the drift that this is only an issue during trade fair periods)?

Is the area near Holiday Inn, bar street, (Heping Lu?) still ok for action? Possible to meet WG or freebies in the bars there?

Interested in Tang, Cave, Gypsy King or anywhere near Garden Hotel (Elephant & Castle and...) etc as they all within walking distance. These places have WG and or good chance for freelancers? Seems possible from what I read?

Anyway guys any help, advise appreciated and hope I establish myself on here and come up to expectations.

Btw could be free to meet up this Friday, Saturday if anyone is around (don't have PM function yet as want to see how this works out)

Ericklein
11-12-08, 14:27
Ericklien:

How much was the first older Russian girl asking ?
Then how much was Lili ?

Thks.......



The old Russian girl was asking for unbelivable 1500 for 1 pop and 2500 for two pops!!!!
Generally I have no problem with my budget, but I would spend that money for a VERY sexy young russian, and not for her.
I paid for Lilly 400, but I gave her a good tip, because she was very nice with me and stayed for 1 second round!

Ericklein
11-12-08, 14:34
Ericklien:
For GF Hotels, in general the higher price hotels the more girl unfriendly. In other words, the cheaper hotels are more likely to be GF hotels. Sorry cannot help specifically with Hyatt and Carlton.


You are right there, but because I like it clean and luxurious, I have decided that next time I will not have a GF hotel as priority. I will just go to a cheap hotel when I need it to make the job and return to my nice hotel.
This way keeps your bed also clean :D

Ericklein
11-12-08, 14:41
Ericklien:
"Wenn Du Ficken willst, muss du freundlich sein!", which means "If you want to fuck, you have to be friendly". I got this quote from one of your reports from around the world. :) Good to know.

:)
This is very important in the german PT clubs, where you just pay the entrance and you can enjoy with the girls there as often as you can!
If you are not nice with them, you will not have a good time there!

Ericklein
11-12-08, 14:49
Guys,

Just spent some time reading through this forum and first off would like to say what a wonderful source of information it is. Anyway, glad to have joined and hope I can contribute and perhaps catch up with some of you in person in the near future.

I will travel to GZ soon and have a couple of questions (I am mindful of comments relating to helping new posters and getting nothing in return — so I will make sure I play by the rules).

I used to live in GZ, about 5 years ago, but haven't been there since then. Not many mongering tales to tell from that time as I was living with GF. Some funny stories which I can get into later but obviously due to timing they are a little irrelevant now and purely anecdotal.

So questions for now.

Will be staying at Holiday Inn — any experiences there at SPA etc or policy on girls to rooms? (get the drift that this is only an issue during trade fair periods)?

Is the area near Holiday Inn, bar street, (Heping Lu?) still ok for action? Possible to meet WG or freebies in the bars there?

Interested in Tang, Cave, Gypsy King or anywhere near Garden Hotel (Elephant & Castle and...) etc as they all within walking distance. These places have WG and or good chance for freelancers? Seems possible from what I read?

Anyway guys any help, advise appreciated and hope I establish myself on here and come up to expectations.

Btw could be free to meet up this Friday, Saturday if anyone is around (don't have PM function yet as want to see how this works out)

Many SW near China Hotel Marriot. A few reports back I attached a name card of a lady that can arrange to send you girls anywhere in GZ, in case you don't have much time for hunting.

Regarding PM, it will definitely help you contact memebers faster and you get more efficient information, since everybody takes a message more seriously than a post. The subscription cost is really very fair and it helps the forum!

Tungsten Anode
11-13-08, 17:41
After having read the forums a little, and in hopes of avoiding pissing off senior members, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to spot BBS and saunas offering FS.

I'm not going to ask for freebies, but since I am relatively new to mongering I am hoping I could be given the tools to help myself.

- Give a man a fish and he's fed for a day. Teach a man to fish and he's fed for the rest of his life.

What do the BBS's I'm looking for look like? So far, I've only had experience with two saunas, both of which were conveniently at the hotels I stayed at previously.

And saunas, the two that offered FS I found out of luck as prior to that, I was paying for legit standard massages. From my experience so far, it seemed that the two with FS had the massage parlors in seperate buildings that were partitions of each of those two hotels.

Finally, what's the best way to go about asking? What do I say? I don't want to seem awkward about it like the last two times.

I'm currently slated to arrive in Guang Zhou tomorrow (not sure which hotel yet) for two nights.

Any help would be appreciated, even if it's just search keywords since BBS comes up with way too many posts to sift through.

OldAsiaHand
11-14-08, 07:14
After having read the forums a little, and in hopes of avoiding pissing off senior members, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to spot BBS and saunas offering FS.

I'm not going to ask for freebies, but since I am relatively new to mongering I am hoping I could be given the tools to help myself.

- Give a man a fish and he's fed for a day. Teach a man to fish and he's fed for the rest of his life.

What do the BBS's I'm looking for look like? So far, I've only had experience with two saunas, both of which were conveniently at the hotels I stayed at previously.

And saunas, the two that offered FS I found out of luck as prior to that, I was paying for legit standard massages. From my experience so far, it seemed that the two with FS had the massage parlors in seperate buildings that were partitions of each of those two hotels.

Finally, what's the best way to go about asking? What do I say? I don't want to seem awkward about it like the last two times.

I'm currently slated to arrive in Guang Zhou tomorrow (not sure which hotel yet) for two nights.

Any help would be appreciated, even if it's just search keywords since BBS comes up with way too many posts to sift through.


Tungsten Anode,

There are some telltale signs for BBS. Pink lights, girls just sitting around, nobody getting their haircut. Normally, if they are wearing a uniform, it is HJ only, especially with "WenZhou" in the name of the place. If not, it is usually FS.

For sauna, it is a bit more difficult. Normally, the higher end joints only offer a HJ. It is the lower end places that offer FS. Legit saunas have a common shower and dressing room, sauna/steam and pool area, etc. FS saunas just have the rooms in which there may or may not be any sauna or steam facilities in the bathroom, sometimes just a standard hotel room. If they take you directly to a room, you are almost guaranteed. If the give you a key to a locker, you are probably a HJ at best.

I usually get straight to the point and ask if I am not sure. There are some politer words to use such as "Chen Tao" (sp?) for FS.

Just my POV.

OAH

Tungsten Anode
11-14-08, 11:28
Thanks for the quick reply OAH.

I have a couple more general questions.

Would the hours of a said establishment also be a giveaway as to its intentions? (In terms of spas at hotels.)

Is it safe to prowl around at night for such establishments?

Are they located in bundles together on their own little corners, or are they peppered out throughout the area?

Would it be wise to call a cab and ask to be driven to one? (vs the kickback)

Is LE much of a problem regarding these activities?

I would like to send out PMs per Ericklein, but I'm not sure who wouldn't mind answering my newbie questions.

Thanks for any assistance in advance.

Ericklein
11-14-08, 16:54
Tungsten Anode

Is it safe to prowl around at night for such establishments?


According to my experience, It is safe to walk around GZ.

Ericklein
11-14-08, 16:58
Would it be wise to call a cab and ask to be driven to one? (vs the kickback)

Is LE much of a problem regarding these activities?

I would like to send out PMs per Ericklein, but I'm not sure who wouldn't mind answering my newbie questions.

Thanks for any assistance in advance.

I never had any issues with LE. Saunas with FS seem to be legal. Massage parlors also. I was impressed that once in a massage parlor that nothing else except HJ was allowed, the girls wouldn't give me a BJ even for 1000 RMB.

I asked a driver once to take me to a FS sauna, but he didn't understand. Maybe you should have a picture with you of a man having sex with a lady! :D

I am also not sure how many would mind answering to your questions by PM, but I wouldn't mind answering if I could! :)

Weelock
11-14-08, 18:43
I never had any issues with LE. Saunas with FS seem to be legal. Massage parlors also.Actually it's ILLEGAL in MP's, saunas, BBS's and KTV's. You can be caught with your pants down in a RAID by LE in MP's, saunas, KTV's and even in 5 star hotels. You can be jailed, fined and have something stamped on your passport.


Finally, what's the best way to go about asking? What do I say? I don't want to seem awkward about it like the last two times. First learn some Chinese. Maybe a few words to get around. Next suggestion offer to buy dinner to a Senior Member to take you around. Make some new friends. Note: I am not in China now.


Is it safe to prowl around at night for such establishments?
According to my experience, It is safe to walk around GZ.In my opinion be extremely careful. Southern China has the highest crime rate in all of China. On the other hand, to be fair "Moody" said differently. He said it's generally safe. Do a search about crime in Southern China in ISG. You will find reports like scams and safety relevant to mongering. Crime have been discussed several times before.

"OAH", was kind enough to reply to some of your questions in your first post. Then "Erickein" and I tried to answer your other questions. "Tungsten Anode" please Read The Forum First.

Side NOTE:

I think there was a FAQ on China written by somebody. It had what was a KTV, BBS MP etc and rules of monger. I think it was by "Ace Gallant".

OldAsiaHand
11-15-08, 02:40
Actually it's ILLEGAL in MP's, saunas, BBS's and KTV's. You can be caught with your pants down in a RAID by LE in MP's, saunas, KTV's and even in 5 star hotels. You can be jailed, fined and have something stamped on your passport.

First learn some Chinese. Maybe a few words to get around. Next suggestion offer to buy dinner to a Senior Member to take you around. Make some new friends. Note: I am not in China now.

In my opinion be extremely careful. Southern China has the highest crime rate in all of China. On the other hand, to be fair "Moody" said differently. He said it's generally safe. Do a search about crime in Southern China in ISG. You will find reports like scams and safety relevant to mongering. Crime have been discussed several times before.

"OAH", was kind enough to reply to some of your questions in your first post. Then "Erickein" and I tried to answer your other questions. "Tungsten Anode" please Read The Forum First.

Side NOTE:

I think there was a FAQ on China written by somebody. It had what was a KTV, BBS MP etc and rules of monger. I think it was by "Ace Gallant".Weelock,

You have made some good points, but if taken completely literally, I would never leave my hotel room. I know you are very cautious due to your own personal experience in the past.

One must be vigilant wherever they monger, however, I still reckon, although it is technically illegal as you state, the chance of getting busted in China nowadays is pretty low and it is pretty safe to walk around GZ if you follow a few basic rules like don't follow anyone to an unknown place. And, mongering with a wingman is always a good idea.

That said, I would not suggest a newbie laowai monger to wander into the very local mongering areas alone without any language skills or experience. I do it because I have a little of both.

Just my POV.

OAH

Ericklein
11-17-08, 10:17
Actually it's ILLEGAL in MP's, saunas, BBS's and KTV's. You can be caught with your pants down in a RAID by LE in MP's, saunas, KTV's and even in 5 star hotels. You can be jailed, fined and have something stamped on your passport.

:eek:

Everybody is acting so naturally, so I really got the feeling that it's Legal!
But good the OAH confirmed that the chance of getting busted is low! I'm relaxed again

Ericklein
11-17-08, 10:20
First learn some Chinese. Maybe a few words to get around. Next suggestion offer to buy dinner to a Senior Member to take you around. Make some new friends. Note: I am not in China now.


Nice way to get a free dinner! Nothing is for free in this life any more :)

Ericklein
11-17-08, 10:22
In my opinion be extremely careful. Southern China has the highest crime rate in all of China. On the other hand, to be fair "Moody" said differently. He said it's generally safe. Do a search about crime in Southern China in ISG. You will find reports like scams and safety relevant to mongering. Crime have been discussed several times before.



I was carefull and always watched me back, but in certain cases I put my self in a higher risk than I should have had. I was lucky and everything went well. I never carry passport, credit cards or valuables. Only sufficient cash for the fun of the night!

Beijing Fox
11-18-08, 04:03
Hi Friends,

I'll be in GZ next Thursday. What place (sauna, etc.) would you recommend as a safe place to a non Chinese speaking 'pale-face' to go to? I'm looking for good clean and hassle-free sex. Coming from Beijing, cost is not such an issue. I guess it will be cheaper anyhow. Take out to hotel could also be an option.

Thank you.

Bad Boy Billy
11-18-08, 05:14
I'll be in GZ next Thursday. What place (sauna, etc.) would you recommend as a safe place to a non Chinese speaking 'pale-face' to go to? Fox - OAH will help you out with some advice.

OAH - can you help Fox out - he is a good guy - you guys will spend time together sooner or later in BJ.

Beijing Fox
11-18-08, 07:52
Thank you for the introduction




Fox - OAH will help you out with some advice.

OAH - can you help Fox out - he is a good guy - you guys will spend time together sooner or later in BJ.

Ericklein
11-19-08, 11:43
Hi Friends,

I'll be in GZ next Thursday. What place (sauna, etc.) would you recommend as a safe place to a non Chinese speaking 'pale-face' to go to? I'm looking for good clean and hassle-free sex. Coming from Beijing, cost is not such an issue. I guess it will be cheaper anyhow. Take out to hotel could also be an option.

Thank you.

I can not help you much, because I find SW more exciting, but I kindly ask you to report how is the situation with the hotels on "normal" days.
If you read some of the past reports, during Canton fair you are not allowed to bring a guest in your room after 11 p.m.

Beijing Fox
11-27-08, 00:32
I stayed at the Garden Hotel. Without any information I ventured out around nine to look for some action within the vicinity of the hotel. On the opposite side of the hotel behind the Best Western Hotel, I came across a sauna called Bayun Leisure Center. They had a menu in English with 90min massage + HJ at RMB400 and 90min massage + BJ at RMB600. Icould get the BJ option down to 520 which was probably still overpriced. Performance of massage and BJ were ok, but nothing to praise or complain about.

Back at the hotel I happened to share the elevator with a mama-san and one of her Girls whom she was probably delivering. She had a room key card and the security guard knew her. She asked me whether I wanted a room service, but I declined for obvious resons. As I left the other morning I didn't get her tel number either.

SE Asia Joe
11-27-08, 06:49
Oh Gawd.... I'm gonna be told to RTFF for sure!!

But Yes I did... I really did.... and searched and searched....but I just cain't find the answers!! Really!!

I need to stay at the :

Huashi Hotel
No.55 West Zhongshan Avenue,
Tianhe District,

for a couple nights next week playing host to a couple who does not know of/would probably NOT look approvingly of my "hobby!!" Would guys mind answering the flwg questions?

1. Is Huashi gonna be a Girl Friendly hotel - Oh I know I know - most hotels in china ARE GF - but this hotel is suppossedly part and parcel of and invested by the Huashi South China Normal University. PLus in the past - when trying to check in to a hotel close to the GZE train station with a "friend' in tow - had been told outright that they will NOT allow unregistered "guests' in and that if I wanted to register my friend in, I must also produce matrimonial proof!! True!! And this was only a year or so ago!! (plus of course I see all these posts about hotels not allowing 'guests' in after 11 pm during the now past Canton Trade Fair)

2. Tianhe Tianhe.... should not be a problem for "good" saunas/K-OK at the - or a nearby - hotel - right? But I really would not have the time to partake of these pleasures and would need to conveniently go to a nearby BBS or do a call in to my hotel room. Question is - where are these BBS's in Tianhe. If not - anybody got good phone numbers to call?

3. This may seem a daft question - but what would you guys suggest as far as entertaining/hosting my couple - a Youngish very highly educated and rather conservative professional couple? Any good, reasonably priced and native to GZ type restaurants, Bars, Clubs? Must see sightseeing places?? Jeez - when was the last time I played "regular tourist?"

4. Come to think of it - what is the name of that Big Disco surrounded by a Chinese type garden with sitting out areas here and there on the side of a hill. It's in town and a very pleasant place to have drinks and chit chats - whilst ogling the young and stylish GZ Yuppie crowd. Anybody know which place I mean and the address? (Damn - I used to go there pretty regularly everytime I get to GZ in the past.... and now I've forgotten??!! Jeez - OWL's probably right ... I AM getting old!!)

4. Any other suggestions/information will be mucho appreciated. Gracias!

SEAJ

Ps. Oh Jeez.... Just went back to the Huashi website (via the Canton trade fair site) and found out that it don't even have a night OR health club!! Plus.... even though described as 4 star, is also called a HOSTEL and not a hotel!

Karlinchina
11-27-08, 08:31
This hotel is right across the main road from the Garden Hotel, go directly to the 2nd floor, there you will find some girls standing to direct to you to either the Club (KTV) I guess or the Sauna / Massage. In my last stayed in GZ I tried the massage for 199, it basically sucks, however the girl told me that if I was interested, and then she showed me the menu with Sauna with "beautiful girl" for 498 or so. But I was disappointed so rejected the offer for next time, which came last night. So I told the hostess to get me to the Sauna, she took me there after walking a large corridor and a staircase to the 3rd. Floor, where two girls with a decent enough English, explained to me the service available oil massage with HJ for 498 or BJ for 598. I chose the BJ, the girl offering the service was very specifically " can not touch the girl only with mouth"! ? , after that the typical routine of getting undressed shower and into a small room with two massage beds. It was early in the afternoon so the place was deserted. After a few minutes my girl came, a bit on the chubby side, with nice attitude, looks on the 7, started with a sort of massage but got directly to play with my little bro. After some 10 mins. Of lackluster rubbing, she started to tell me if I wanted sex, I said yes, she said go to your hotel room, I really did not like her that much so I played dumb. She then took out some plastic wrap around my boy and started the BJ, not too good so finished with a BJ. When I returned to the showers talked a bit with the towel boy and told me that the fun started by 8 pm, many girls to choose from. Will try it tonight? , may be.

Beijing Fox
11-28-08, 15:50
See my report about the same sauna two posts below. I was there around 21:00 but it was deserted too. I didn't let me trade up to a BJ for some time until she phoned the manager and after a short discussion over the phone she offered 520. I also insisted that I only have BBBJ or nothing. You have to be as hard as a rock or your prick or what ever when negotiating with them.

The girl was mediocre, the massage was mediocre, the BJ was mediocre. What I enjoyed most was the head/hair massage after the BJ.

Cannot really reccommend the place, but still better than tossing off by yourself.


This hotel is right across the main road from the Garden Hotel, go directly to the 2nd floor, there you will find some girls standing to direct to you to either the Club (KTV) I guess or the Sauna / Massage. In my last stayed in GZ I tried the massage for 199, it basically sucks, however the girl told me that if I was interested, and then she showed me the menu with Sauna with "beautiful girl" for 498 or so. But I was disappointed so rejected the offer for next time, which came last night. So I told the hostess to get me to the Sauna, she took me there after walking a large corridor and a staircase to the 3rd. Floor, where two girls with a decent enough English, explained to me the service available oil massage with HJ for 498 or BJ for 598. I chose the BJ, the girl offering the service was very specifically " can not touch the girl only with mouth"! ? , after that the typical routine of getting undressed shower and into a small room with two massage beds. It was early in the afternoon so the place was deserted. After a few minutes my girl came, a bit on the chubby side, with nice attitude, looks on the 7, started with a sort of massage but got directly to play with my little bro. After some 10 mins. Of lackluster rubbing, she started to tell me if I wanted sex, I said yes, she said go to your hotel room, I really did not like her that much so I played dumb. She then took out some plastic wrap around my boy and started the BJ, not too good so finished with a BJ. When I returned to the showers talked a bit with the towel boy and told me that the fun started by 8 pm, many girls to choose from. Will try it tonight? , may be.

Panettone
12-01-08, 12:01
I spent the night at the Guangdong Victory last weekend. It is a really nice hotel on Shaimian Island and excellent value at around 450RMB on elong or ctrip. A beautiful place but lots of Americans adopting Chinese babies gives the place a bit of a weird vibe.

I had done some research before I left and a very old post mentioned full service in the Sauna but wasn't very specific. When I checked in, I asked the bell boy (in Mandarin) if the sauna was full service, he said it was and also gave me a mobile number for delivery (ie not from the sauna). I went to the sauna and asked discretely again about full service, the receptionist pulled out a calculator and punched in an amount somewhere around 500RMB.

Unfortunately I had to go out to dinner and ran out of time to sample the service. Hopefully another monger can use this info to try it out and add another place to reasonably few options in GZ. If anyone goes, please post!

Zhoujian
12-04-08, 08:15
Funny, I have just been at the Victory Hotel last weekend and after I had seen that Sauna place at previous visits at that hotel I decided to give it a try this time.

I stayed at the Western (new) building which is a 2 minutes walk away from the sauna. You can bring a girl to your room but you cannot use the elevator without your room key (which is not the case in the eastern building). In the afternoon I met a "BBS-take-away" in the elevator. She just finished with her customer and offered me her services but I declined.

However, the business hours of the sauna are from 1 pm to 6 am and I went there in the evening at 8:30 pm. And oh yes, they offer full service. I tried the whole package and after more than 3 hours inside I paid 600,. RMB. I had the sauna, foot and leg massage which was just so-so (each massage was 38,. RMB) and 90 minutes in a private room with a bit crazy but very enjoyable, tall girl from Chongqing. It seems they mostly have quite tall girls there: a Chinese guy ordered a specific girl at the foot massage room and as she was not at work the manager tried to call her. Without success and so they brought a line-up in the public massage room and all of the girls were taller than 1. 65 m. As I was a first-time customer they didn't sow me a few girls to choose from but as I liked the Chongqing girl the first moment I saw her I didn't complain.

English was spoken by all managers and overall it was a quite relaxing and comfortable time. Only donwside was that they try to sell and charge you for everything (massages for feet, legs, arms, pedicure, pyjamas and even the tea and fruits). One further thing I have never seen at a sauna: in the public massage room the have a kind o business center with 4 computers connected to the internet and I don't know whether they charge for the use of it. But it wouldn't be a surprise though.

My girl received a text message from a guy from Shanghai after her job with me was done at 11:30 pm and she asked him whether she should come to his hotel (China Hotel), so it seems that regular customers can pull out the girls from the sauna to their room.

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OldAsiaHand
12-05-08, 12:26
You can tell CNY is coming up. The BBS are filling up with new girls trying to stash away some dough to take back home. Some may be the result of factory closures, as well. In any case, it is good for our hobby.

The HJ joint I usually patronize had nearly 20 girls (compared with 4-5 normally) when I stopped by this week. An hour massage (if you can call it that) with all the groping you want and a HJ for 40 RMB is a real bargain.

Just stopped by a newly (post Olympics) opened BBS in Shi Qiao this afternoon. Picked a 20 yo spinner from Jiangmen. I was her first laowai and she was worried. She had heard all laowai are studs. Thanks to the Vitamin C, I was able to live up to her expectations. She complained that I lasted too long but the service was excellent. Some of the best cowgirl I have ever had. FS w/o BBBJ is 100 RMB, w/BBBJ is 130 RMB.

OAH

SE Asia Joe
12-10-08, 05:01
DISCLAIMER - GZ Tourist report - please note that this hardly belongs in a mongering site - and should be left unread if you're only searching mongering info!!

When in need, reach out to OAH and other mongering buddies!!!
That's what I did and I did have a good time in Guangzhou after all.

First, I got invited to a Beauty contest at Baiyun Convention Centre (don't even think of going there without arangements for transport out as there's nothing else there - and definitely not taxis!!) and it was quite an experience. I was made to come early for the rehearsals - which is when (according to my friend) the time to get to know the gals and extract a few "contacts." Only a modicum of success on this endeavour as I was too busy eyeing ALL the gals, plus the gal accompanying my friend - one of the judges, and a Shenzhen model - was just way tooooo delicious!!

Then OAH invited me to a Wine tasting party at the Garden hotel - and I couldn't believe my eyes looking at how many Chinese are actually tasting....wine!! I mean, these guys and gals actually looked as if they knew what they were doing!! OH OK, there were a few plonkers who just drank as much free wine as they could wrangle from the exhibitors - but for the most part, most attendees did seem to know how to do wine tasting. This was followed by a brief tour of the BBS areas behind the Garden hotel - but then it was time to go to OAH's buddy's Italian restaurant at the Home garden Mall for a deliciojs meal.

Early morning is NOT a good time for mongers - and thus I decided that the best thing to do was to arrange a city tour for the young professional couple I hosted. Now I'm an expert on the tourist sites of GZ!!!! (yeah - right!!). The Chen Clan temple, Sun Yat Sen memorial, Jiamen island, Ersha island ,the 5 Goat statues, shang yia lu, beijing lu - been there done that. Even buying RMB75, 30" real pearl necklaces at the jewelry wholesale market. Yup, done that.

Some highlights are those places I knew from before -
- Made in Kitchen Fusion Restaurant (8/F Mayflower Mall, Beijing Lu), that magnet for the GZ yuppies with the dramatic lighting, catwalk, soaring roof and totally out of this world toilets (anybody want 4 X RMB10 discount coupons I was given when paying the bill?),
- The Golf Club (N. Gate of Yuexiu Park, Huanshi Zhong Lu) - a KTV/Disco main building smack in the middle of a park with a labyrinth of outdoor seating areas, pagodas, huts spread all over the place - where one can watch a parade of the young and beautiful of GZ.
- Teem Mall in Tianhe (thanks for the heads up superforce!) which is just perfect for the visitor to browse and eat at.

OH OK, I did do a bit of mongering - dropped off at the intersection of Zhongshan Daidaoxi and Tian fu Lu (close to where I was staying at) I wondered around and managed to get a quicky HJ as I was tired and couldn't bother to hunt up any other services. A bit expensive at RMB100 - but what the heck. It was conveneint!!

SEAJ






You can tell CNY is coming up. The BBS are filling up with new girls trying to stash away some dough to take back home. Some may be the result of factory closures, as well. In any case, it is good for our hobby.

The HJ joint I usually patronize had nearly 20 girls (compared with 4-5 normally) when I stopped by this week. An hour massage (if you can call it that) with all the groping you want and a HJ for 40 RMB is a real bargain.

Just stopped by a newly (post Olympics) opened BBS in Shi Qiao this afternoon. Picked a 20 yo spinner from Jiangmen. I was her first laowai and she was worried. She had heard all laowai are studs. Thanks to the Vitamin C, I was able to live up to her expectations. She complained that I lasted too long but the service was excellent. Some of the best cowgirl I have ever had. FS w/o BBBJ is 100 RMB, w/BBBJ is 130 RMB.

OAH

SE Asia Joe
12-10-08, 05:28
BTW - I stayed one night at the San Mao hotel, 374 Huan Shi Dong Lu 020-8386-3979 just behind the Garden hotel on their executive floor and its a damn good deal at RMB 248. I figure that the executive floor was previously a Unotel floor as nobody's bothered to take down the Unotel Sign outside!

Unotel is a hotel mgmt outfit that habitually contract one or two floors of an older hotel, convert the rooms A'La Philip Starck (all modern, minimalist - and cheap to furnish!!) and then use their own booking system to rent the rooms out to their own clientelle.

There are cheaper rooms at this hotel and although I didn't bother to see them, I figure that they are really old and run-down - and not worth to stay at for the RMB 60-80 savings. But for those wanting real bargain accomodations - this may be a good choice as the location - (like I said, just behind the Garden hotel and most of the ISG publicized mongering locations) - cannot be beat.

SEAJ

China35
12-11-08, 00:35
BTW - I stayed one night at the San Mao hotel, 374 Huan Shi Dong Lu 020-8386-3979 just behind the Garden hotel on their executive floor and its a damn good deal at RMB 248. I figure that the executive floor was previously a Unotel floor as nobody's bothered to take down the Unotel Sign outside!

Unotel is a hotel mgmt outfit that habitually contract one or two floors of an older hotel, convert the rooms A'La Philip Starck (all modern, minimalist - and cheap to furnish!!) and then use their own booking system to rent the rooms out to their own clientelle.

There are cheaper rooms at this hotel and although I didn't bother to see them, I figure that they are really old and run-down - and not worth to stay at for the RMB 60-80 savings. But for those wanting real bargain accomodations - this may be a good choice as the location - (like I said, just behind the Garden hotel and most of the ISG publicized mongering locations) - cannot be beat.

SEAJI stayed in the cheaper rooms and they are OK good 3 star. Hotel is a green from my experiance. Is a massage room on one floor, but is not mentioned. I did not sample. Plenty of talent all around this area from bbs to street girls, to bar girls and high end and Russian. I got pestered by one Russian who in the end settled for 300 2 shot, after chasing up the stairs after I tried to give her the slip in the lift. Anal is fairly standard with the russians and cum in mouth no problem.

Monkey Poo
12-21-08, 18:02
Hi everyone,

Could anyone give me some straightforward advice/recommendations for a new-comer to the Chinese scene. Visiting Guangzhou for a couple of weeks in May but have no idea what I'm getting myself into. Looking for some simple advice for having a good time and not getting into trouble. This has probably been asked a million times, my apologies if so, maybe you could point me to the appropriate page.

Thanks in advance.

Loveasiangirls
12-22-08, 01:39
Hi everyone,

Could anyone give me some straightforward advice/recommendations for a new-comer to the Chinese scene. Visiting Guangzhou for a couple of weeks in May but have no idea what I'm getting myself into. Looking for some simple advice for having a good time and not getting into trouble. This has probably been asked a million times, my apologies if so, maybe you could point me to the appropriate page.

Thanks in advance.

Simple. Just read this thread. Lots of info.

Bnlee2
12-22-08, 02:16
Hi everyone,

Could anyone give me some straightforward advice/recommendations for a new-comer to the Chinese scene. Visiting Guangzhou for a couple of weeks in May but have no idea what I'm getting myself into. Looking for some simple advice for having a good time and not getting into trouble. This has probably been asked a million times, my apologies if so, maybe you could point me to the appropriate page.

Thanks in advance.Get yourself a nice cup of coffee or tea and start with page 1 of this thread. continue reading till you have read all the thread and all of your questions will be answered.

the GZ thread is one of the shorter ones. it only has about 39 pages to read. Max... two hours to read and you will know a lot more. Get a subscription and use the PM function to contact senior member that will give you more detail info that they do not want to publicize on the thread. Give Jackson a try and you will like him.

Happy reading.

Guybert56
12-28-08, 07:35
Well the packers will be arriving tomorrow to get me out of dodge. Heading back to USA where the conditions are not nearly as good for some tight you know what...

Texted Dan Dan yesterday to see if she was working and she asked me to her house at noon today. Had a very nice GFE with her amid sad goodbyes. I get the strong feeling she is no longer working at World Plaza even though she had 2 calls from her mamasan that day to work. She HATES that place! If it is possible for her to have lost weight, I think she has! Must be about 38kgs. Still looks nice and is as enthusiastic as ever. Just not much appetite.

So long Shanghai!

Beijing Fox
12-31-08, 09:45
Found out yesterday this sauna also does delivery to the Garden Hotel. RMB800 for FS. No 131 speaks some English. Nothing outstanding, but decent service.



See my report about the same sauna two posts below. I was there around 21:00 but it was deserted too. I didn't let me trade up to a BJ for some time until she phoned the manager and after a short discussion over the phone she offered 520. I also insisted that I only have BBBJ or nothing. You have to be as hard as a rock or your prick or what ever when negotiating with them.

The girl was mediocre, the massage was mediocre, the BJ was mediocre. What I enjoyed most was the head/hair massage after the BJ.

Cannot really reccommend the place, but still better than tossing off by yourself.

Jabbajabba
01-11-09, 17:01
Anyone here going to the LED exhibition at the end of February/Beginning March?

Anyone want to meet up?

Sharka
01-28-09, 02:18
I know there is Convention week around Oct? that generally all hotels are booked (or marked up) and raids are conducted closing brothels down. Anyone know which days the Conventions are held this year?

Shark

SE Asia Joe
01-30-09, 05:33
I know there is Convention week around Oct? that generally all hotels are booked (or marked up) and raids are conducted closing brothels down. Anyone know which days the Conventions are held this year?

Shark
Phase1: April 15th - 19th, 2009 9:30-19:00
Phase2: April 24th - 28th, 2009 9:30-19:00
Phase3: May 3rd - 7th, 2009 9:30-19:00

Do not have exact dates for the autumn Canton Trade Fair yet, but last year was:

Phase 1: October 15th - 19th, 2008
Phase 2: October 24th - 28th, 2008
Phase 3: November 2nd - 6th, 2008

SEAJ

Sas123
02-01-09, 21:25
I will be for the fair in April at the canton from 14-24/4/09 at henry business hotel. I am a newbie in this town and for the fair, I am from Greece and I will be happy to meet someone of you there.

President 69
02-05-09, 13:18
I stayed in the cheaper rooms and they are OK good 3 star. Hotel is a green from my experiance. Is a massage room on one floor, but is not mentioned. I did not sample. Plenty of talent all around this area from bbs to street girls, to bar girls and high end and Russian. I got pestered by one Russian who in the end settled for 300 2 shot, after chasing up the stairs after I tried to give her the slip in the lift. Anal is fairly standard with the russians and cum in mouth no problem.Hi All,

After months and months of scouring the forums, I think I am finally equipped for my first Guangzhou mongering experience Thank you for all the info, postings and most importantly reviews of this newfound mongering "paradise".

SEAJ and OAH. After all these months, I feel like I practically know you guys hahaha well done on your conquests and cheers for the info!

Everyone else. Without your reviews, we'd all be wanderinga aimlessly around getting sloppy HJ's in dirty back rooms with squatter toilets

YES! You are right, RTFF with your info, I've managed to pick my hotel and a few hotspots to hit up, thank you!

Until I stumbled upon the above posting by China35. ! Yea yea! So forgive me if I've overlooked this somewhere in the many pages, photogalleries and threads but:

Anal and threesomes (2 girls) seem to be similar to finding a needle in a haystack. Has anyone else had successful experiences with either of the above in Guanzhou? China35 obviously enjoyed some ass but is this really "standard" with all russians and what would you expect to typically pay?

And 3somes. Well, if you know how or where to find this gold at the end of the rainbow, please share. I've been driving myself nuts trying to locate info on getting a couple of beauties for a fun evening

Thanks All!

Pres

SE Asia Joe
02-09-09, 09:16
Hi All,

After months and months of scouring the forums, I think I am finally equipped for my first Guangzhou mongering experience Thank you for all the info, postings and most importantly reviews of this newfound mongering "paradise".

SEAJ and OAH. After all these months, I feel like I practically know you guys hahaha well done on your conquests and cheers for the info!

Everyone else. Without your reviews, we'd all be wanderinga aimlessly around getting sloppy HJ's in dirty back rooms with squatter toilets

YES! You are right, RTFF with your info, I've managed to pick my hotel and a few hotspots to hit up, thank you!

Until I stumbled upon the above posting by China35. ! Yea yea! So forgive me if I've overlooked this somewhere in the many pages, photogalleries and threads but:

Anal and threesomes (2 girls) seem to be similar to finding a needle in a haystack. Has anyone else had successful experiences with either of the above in Guanzhou? China35 obviously enjoyed some ass but is this really "standard" with all russians and what would you expect to typically pay?

And 3somes. Well, if you know how or where to find this gold at the end of the rainbow, please share. I've been driving myself nuts trying to locate info on getting a couple of beauties for a fun evening

Thanks All!

Pres

Your post is just the kind of post I enjoy reading...and replying to, as you have apparently RTFF and are asking questions based upon such RTFF.

First thing first, have you considered Dongguan - Chang Ping, Chang An, Dong cheng, Houjie etc for your mongering activities instead of Guangzhou? Zhuhai, Zhongshan, and even areas just outside of GZ like Foshan or Panyu? NOw, I ain't no expert on GZ - not by far - but I can pretty well assure you that mongering in GZ is NOT going to be as easy or as economical as in other areas close by. You should RTFF the Dongguan and Zhuhai threads.

Second, may I ask why you would ask about Russian gals....when you're gonna be mongering in China? Why not take advatnage of what is on "special offer" in china - which is of course - Chinese Gals!!

As far as anal is concerned - no, you ain't gonna have much luck on this in china - and you'd have better luck in Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia or Philippines (At least I THINK so!!); The same with 3-somes, 4-somes etc as Chinese gals just are NOT into such heavy duty lifting jobs. They'll offer 3 somes etc - but all you you'd end up with is .....not much!!

I say, better take advantage of what truly is on offer here and enjoy it. Just IMHO and a suggestion.

SEAJ

Freepeaks
02-10-09, 21:14
The same with 3-somes, 4-somes etc as Chinese gals just are NOT into such heavy duty lifting jobs. They'll offer 3 somes etc - but all you you'd end up with is .....

SEAJTwo 1-somes. That is what you meant to say. Yep and likely the first one will be fully dressed before your finish the 2nd one.

Sharka
02-11-09, 00:09
As far as anal is concerned - no, you ain't gonna have much luck on this in china - and you'd have better luck in Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia or Philippines (At least I THINK so!!); The same with 3-somes, 4-somes etc as Chinese gals just are NOT into such heavy duty lifting jobs. They'll offer 3 somes etc - but all you you'd end up with is .....not much!!

I say, better take advantage of what truly is on offer here and enjoy it. Just IMHO and a suggestion.

SEAJAnal in Vietnam is mostly a no-go unless you are really really lucky. Cambodia is also not great place for anal, some do so but thats the exception. Best bet is in Philly or Thailand- but stick to Pattaya for the most selection in this dept., also the best place for 3 somes. Also agree that I won't be looking for Russians in China, unless a beauty lands on my lap for free.--IMO

Shark

China35
02-13-09, 01:41
If you really want a Russian, and frankly I wouldn't hunt for one, they basically jumped me at my hotel, you will find them in tang club opposite end from garden hotel, expect quotes of at least 1000-2000 plus, frankly not worth it.

As for Chinese anal, read back on other post, most of my Chinese anal is from non pro students, some from GZ school of forgien studies.

OldAsiaHand
02-20-09, 16:00
At 4:00AM, there must have been 25-30 SW on the road running perpendicular to the Bravo Hotel. Some of them looked pretty good and I suspect they might have been left over KTV girls that ended up empty handed at the KTV.

There was not shortage of customers at that hour either as I saw a steady stream of mongers doing the drive-by and stopping to make a deal.

I stopped to check prices and a few tried to hit a homerun after seeing I was a laowai. Some quoted me as high as 300 RMB. The going rate there is 100-150 RMB ST. Problem was that they approached my car in groups and wanted to keep face among their compatriates.

I did another pass and saw one girl standing by herself. Picked her up and agree to 100 RMB for BBBJCIM. This girl had fantastic oral skills.
She even swallowed. I gave her a 20 RMB tip and left a happy camper.


OAH

Peipei
02-21-09, 09:03
Hey OAH,

We should meet up. I live in Panyu and have had a hard time finding any reports about that district, except from you.

Have you seen much action at 10-11 pm? What is the street name exactly?

Thanks


At 4:00AM, there must have been 25-30 SW on the road running perpendicular to the Bravo Hotel. Some of them looked pretty good and I suspect they might have been left over KTV girls that ended up empty handed at the KTV.

OAH

Mjolner
02-21-09, 13:14
Hi everyoe!

I am a frequent traveler to Guangzhou, and has been for the last two years. I am there about twice a month, so I am not a compete newbee. I have explored the basic waterholes such as Tang, Gipsy King and a few saunas. Personally I prefer the excitement of picking up girls at bars rather than choosing them from a line at a spa.

The reason I write here is to see if there would be someone else in Guangzhou that shared the same interest. Going out together picking up would be more fun than going out alone. Shared pleasure is double pleasure. Please PM me if you would be interested in going out together next time I am in GZ.

WhosWho
02-24-09, 13:47
Hi,

I'm a 37 yr old guy. I'm visiting Guangzhou in April for the Canton Fair between 23/4 - 27/4. Been there a few times before so I know one or two places to hit for good chicks if you're interested.

Enjoy my few beers. If you're interested in meeting up PM me.

Cheers!

Rajal
02-28-09, 08:33
Hi,

I'm a 37 yr old guy. I'm visiting Guangzhou in April for the Canton Fair between 23/4 - 27/4. Been there a few times before so I know one or two places to hit for good chicks if you're interested.

Enjoy my few beers. If you're interested in meeting up PM me.

Cheers!Hey whoswho

I will be in gz end March and some help in picking up cuties will be appreciated thnx

Thnx

Mjolner
02-28-09, 13:20
Hi guys and undercover cops,

OK, I understand the game. You got to show your own cards first before anyone else does. So what experiences can I share? Since everybody else is sharing success stories, I’ll do the opposite.

My first one is here from Guangzhou. After having been to Tang and not really finding what I was looking for, I set out for a walk to Gipsy King (just pass Starbucks and turn left). A bit more dodgy place, but there always seem to be at least a few cute girls. On my way I pass by three stunning blonds. They told me that they were from the Philippines. I immediately got a bit suspicious, but they were so stunning and also really funny when I started to speak with them, that my small head completely got in control. I joined them to another disco place called Karma (really good actually). After buying them a few drinks I got into negotiations with one of them. We agreed on the terms and she joined me to my hotel. Here came another worrying factor; she refused to take a shower with me. Anyway, it was first when the bra came off and I had her so close that I could smell her body that I was certain. By then she already had my little John in a tight grip about to kiss him. I calmly told her that I suspected something, but it was better that she confessed than that I accused. First she pretended not to understand, but shortly there after she said: "OK then, I am a boy, so what? " So what! That is a big What! He then offered to give me a BJ, but I really could not. The evening ended with he going back to Karma and me having to jerk off.

Happy hunting in GZ!

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Mjolner
02-28-09, 13:29
Hi guys,

OK, I understand the game. You got to show your own cards first before anyone else does. So what experiences can I share? Since everybody else is sharing success stories, I’ll do the opposite. My first one is here from Guangzhou. After having been to Tang and not really finding what I was looking for, I set out for a walk to Gipsy King (just pass Starbucks and turn left). A bit more dodgy place, but there always seem to be at least a few cute girls. On my way I pass by three stunning blonds. They told me that they were from the Philippines. I immediately got a bit suspicious, but they were so stunning and also really funny when I started to speak with them, that my small head completely got in control. I joined them to another disco place called Karma (really good actually). After buying them a few drinks I got into negotiations with one of them. We agreed on the terms and she joined me to my hotel. Here came another worrying factor; she refused to take a shower with me. Anyway, it was first when the bra came off and I had her so close that I could smell her body that I was certain. By then she already had my little John in a tight grip about to kiss him. I calmly told her that I suspected something, but it was better that she confessed than that I accused. First she pretended not to understand, but shortly there after she said: "OK then, I am a boy, so what? " So what! That is a big What! He then offered to give me a BJ, but I really could not. The evening ended with he going back to Karma and me having to jerk off.

Happy hunting in GZ!

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Wushu
02-28-09, 21:33
Similar to my experience in Beijing last month. only that - I went in for a so call Emperor Foot massage(was expecting a female I swear!) and ended up having the massuer(spelling?) wanting to blow me and have me give him an "happy hour".

OldAsiaHand
03-01-09, 07:30
I popped a V and went to visit a freebie about 8:00pm. Left her after a couple of pops at about 11pm and went home to sleep. After effects of the V hit me at 4:30am and by 5:00am I had a SW in the back seat of my car with my dick in her mouth. I usually just get CIM in the car, but this one had taken her pants off first so I decided to cap it up and stick it in. She had on a pair of those thongs with the open front. The way she leaned against the door and positioned her snatch so I could have easy access was priceless. I was back home in bed before 6:00am.

Do I love China or what?

OAH

Bnlee2
03-01-09, 19:08
I popped a V and went to visit a freebie about 8:00pm. Left her after a couple of pops at about 11pm and went home to sleep. After effects of the V hit me at 4:30am and by 5:00am I had a SW in the back seat of my car with my dick in her mouth. I usually just get CIM in the car, but this one had taken her pants off first so I decided to cap it up and stick it in. She had on a pair of those thongs with the open front. The way she leaned against the door and positioned her snatch so I could have easy access was priceless. I was back home in bed before 6:00am.

Do I love China or what?

OAHOAH

You must have taken a 100mg tablet. I usually cut it in half. 50mg is all I need. Three pop in a twelve hour period is just a bit too much.

Amadeuss
03-03-09, 13:30
At the Dongfeng Hotel I got some time in the afternoon. Walked out from the main entrance, left and at the main road left again. Passed the restaurants to a junction of a small lane to the left again. Could see a pink-black building: "Entertainment Center" with a smaller sign of Massage-Sauna. Thats exactly what I need now.

Walked in and immediatley got the "menue":
Massage 116 RMB
Chinese Massage 168 RMB
Thai Massage 324 RMB...and so on
I didnt know what to expect, so I opted just for the regular massage. Got into the changing room with the attendands standing there watching me changing and trying to help to hang my trousers and even folding my smelly socks.... Actually they are a pain oin the ass - but just disregard them and carry on to the shower. Clean, get a pair of shorts and a sort of shirt. Than one of the boys guiding me upstairs into a dark small massage room.
2 min later the ML comes, giggling, asking me to undress in sign language. She is middle 20, not bad looking but not a hot-babe either.

Her massage is ok. I relax, 45 min. Then her sign to turn round. At that time Mr Happy already in an alert position which makes her giggling again and pointing on him.... and with a smile she gave me a kiss, by bowing down I could touch underneath her blouse. The bra was easy to open - no resistance. Her boobs a good A+ cup, firm, just a handful, and her tits very responsive. She started to moan..and by a sudden got off and out of the room.

Hmm..what was that?

2 min later she was back with the "menue", pointing on Chinese Massage 168 and pointing on my dick with the sign of stroking him. I nodded ok = and the play which stopped so abruptly just continued. Becasue now the terms are clear: I agree to the higher price and for that I get a happy ending.

She did it very sensual and let me touch everything at her body ..even fingered the shaved pussy which made her shiver. When I shoot my load she was making a big "oooohhhh", grapped the towel, cleaned me up, another kiss on the cheek..and out she was.

Well, I was just relaxing anpther couple of minutes, got into my pants and left downstairs for the shower. Now the boys were pestering me for a tip and even the cashier was pointing on the tip-box to put my change in it. I felt that I got what I paid for...thats it.

Anyway, not a bad place for an afternoon-break if one is staying at the Dongfang

OldAsiaHand
03-03-09, 14:34
OAH

You must have taken a 100mg tablet. I usually cut it in half. 50mg is all I need. Three pop in a twelve hour period is just a bit too much.

Bnlee2,

I only took a half, but sometimes the half does not work as well as it did before. I may be building a tolerance. Lately, I've been alternating between V and C to see if it helps.

OAH

FairTourist
03-04-09, 10:03
Exact this massage you can have in the 3 or 4 th floor in at the massage center in the Wa King Town Hotel. I have done it already 6 or 7 times.


At the Dongfeng Hotel I got some time in the afternoon. Walked out from the main entrance, left and at the main road left again. Passed the restaurants to a junction of a small lane to the left again. Could see a pink-black building: "Entertainment Center" with a smaller sign of Massage-Sauna. Thats exactly what I need now.

Walked in and immediatley got the "menue":
Massage 116 RMB
Chinese Massage 168 RMB
Thai Massage 324 RMB...and so on
I didnt know what to expect, so I opted just for the regular massage. Got into the changing room with the attendands standing there watching me changing and trying to help to hang my trousers and even folding my smelly socks.... Actually they are a pain oin the ass - but just disregard them and carry on to the shower. Clean, get a pair of shorts and a sort of shirt. Than one of the boys guiding me upstairs into a dark small massage room.
2 min later the ML comes, giggling, asking me to undress in sign language. She is middle 20, not bad looking but not a hot-babe either.

Her massage is ok. I relax, 45 min. Then her sign to turn round. At that time Mr Happy already in an alert position which makes her giggling again and pointing on him.... and with a smile she gave me a kiss, by bowing down I could touch underneath her blouse. The bra was easy to open - no resistance. Her boobs a good A+ cup, firm, just a handful, and her tits very responsive. She started to moan..and by a sudden got off and out of the room.

Hmm..what was that?

2 min later she was back with the "menue", pointing on Chinese Massage 168 and pointing on my dick with the sign of stroking him. I nodded ok = and the play which stopped so abruptly just continued. Becasue now the terms are clear: I agree to the higher price and for that I get a happy ending.

She did it very sensual and let me touch everything at her body ..even fingered the shaved pussy which made her shiver. When I shoot my load she was making a big "oooohhhh", grapped the towel, cleaned me up, another kiss on the cheek..and out she was.

Well, I was just relaxing anpther couple of minutes, got into my pants and left downstairs for the shower. Now the boys were pestering me for a tip and even the cashier was pointing on the tip-box to put my change in it. I felt that I got what I paid for...thats it.

Anyway, not a bad place for an afternoon-break if one is staying at the Dongfang

FairTourist
03-04-09, 11:37
Do anybody know the cave bar. Do you have a exact adress?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnpV5rJ5Duk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f_9uG0aOSo&feature=related

This looks also great: The Karma Club in Guangzhou

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQnD1UHGeWY&feature=related

Anybody know this adress?

Thanks!

Poirier
03-06-09, 18:17
Do you know if Rosedal Hotel in GZ is girl friendly hotel?

Do you know there is action, or BBS near.

Best

OldAsiaHand
03-07-09, 06:05
Do you know if Rosedal Hotel in GZ is girl friendly hotel?

Do you know there is action, or BBS near.

Best

Poirier,

I am pretty sure that the Rosedale Hotel is girl friendly. There are 3 BBS that I know of off of Jiangnan (Zhong?) Lu but they are difficut to find.

Directions: From Rosedale Hotel, head down Jiangnan Lu towards the Haizhu Bridge. You will see an Agricultural Bank on the left side, turn left into the alley next to it. There is a tree in the middle of the road about 150 meters in. The first BBS is just past the tree on the right side. If you keep going past this shop and follow the road to the right and down a hill, you come to a T intersection. Turn right and take the second right at the public toilets. There are another 2 shops about 50 meters in.

Most of the talent in these shops is a bit older, but sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough.

Happy Hunting!

OAH

PrinceMV2
03-12-09, 15:47
As already told many times cave is near garden hotel, near the bridge & karma is at hung fu lu.


Do anybody know the cave bar. Do you have a exact adress?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnpV5rJ5Duk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f_9uG0aOSo&feature=related

This looks also great: The Karma Club in Guangzhou

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQnD1UHGeWY&feature=related

Anybody know this adress?

Thanks!

AsnDragon
03-13-09, 09:45
On my trip to China, i stayed at GZ for a night. Having stayed in many places in Southern china, I have noticed one thing about GZ taxis. Shenzhen's Taxi start at 12.50 and in GZ, being such a large city, their cabs start at 7 bucks or is it 8 bucks. I was shocked to see that their cab fares to be so cheap. But later i realized it's probably because of the following reasons:

1. GZ is a lot more spread out than Shenzhen. Therefore it takes lot more money to get from point A to point B.

2. GZ is an old city, built around or on top of another old city. Therefore their transportation routes are really messed up and inefficient. This results in heavy traffic, one of the worst in China, and it takes a lot of time to get from one point to the other, even if it's only 2-3 Kilometers, just waiting in traffic alone makes you pay more than in Shenzhen.

Always take these taxis in order:

1. yellow
2. blue
4. red.
5. green

This is an advice that i got from a HK friend who use to live in Guangzhou for a while.

Also, when i use to live around by the Pearl river Delta bank, near landmark Hotel, there use to be some streetwalkers there a few years back, but what happened to all of them? Things have sure changed a lot in GZ.

AsnDragon

Mmlouie
03-14-09, 05:34
Always take these taxis in order:

1. yellow
2. blue
4. red.
5. green

This is an advice that i got from a HK friend who use to live in Guangzhou for a while.Asndragon,

Not for certain but I believed it used to true but no longer, they changed that recently. I remember that certain color cabs were driven by local GZ guys and certain color cabs are driven by out of town guys. The out of town guys will rob you blind since they really don't know their way around well enough.

I remember having a conversation with a cabbie last November about that!

FairTourist
03-17-09, 14:34
Thanks,

I always at the Garden Hotel, but I have never seen it. Only Tang.


As already told many times cave is near garden hotel, near the bridge & karma is at hung fu lu.

PrinceMV2
03-18-09, 13:19
Hi,

If you always stay at Garden Hotel, haven't you seen the bridge/fly-over just in front of main entrence. Don't climb the stairs & you will find it right there under the fly over. Go from the starbuck side.


Thanks,

I always at the Garden Hotel, but I have never seen it. Only Tang.

Member #3454
03-18-09, 13:40
Thanks,

I always at the Garden Hotel, but I have never seen it. Only Tang.Cave is actually on the corner of huang shi dong lu and the road with starbucks, you can see it when you walked down the bridge, the entrance is on your right side.

Jamie5063
03-21-09, 12:41
Always take these taxis in order:

1. yellow
2. blue
4. red.
5. green

AsnDragonI got a green taxi and had a huge crash not recommended although it was not actually his fault sore neck for a few days and could not ring the girlfriend as I took a small detour on the way back to the hotel and would have to explain two hours to get a taxi. Police did not ask to see passport which was in the hotel safe.Why do they never have seatbelts.

Jamie5063
03-21-09, 12:56
At the Dongfeng Hotel I got some time in the afternoon. Walked out from the main entrance, left and at the main road left again. Passed the restaurants to a junction of a small lane to the left again. Could see a pink-black building: "Entertainment Center" with a smaller sign of Massage-Sauna. Thats exactly what I need now.

Walked in and immediatley got the "menue":

Massage 116 RMB

Chinese Massage 168 RMB

Thai Massage 324 RMB...and so onPlace I went to was the Deyi Sangna Health Club told 324 was sex massage and 168 oil massage 90mins I took the 168 as I really wanted just a nice massage.

Got an average looking perhaps on the old and fat side for China very useless massage and straight to the hand job. Would not let me touch anything. Lucky I took my time soon as I started to cum she stopped half way?

Then that was it goodbye WTF?

Gave the dressing room guy 10 rmb he then said the 3 off them wanted 10 rmb each, sure lucky you got ten buddy I had nothing smaller.

Complained about the bad service waste of more time and told them me or my friends will not return.

Total 1/10

Daveygravy
03-23-09, 16:48
My Guangzhou gf is desperate to try a 4p with me and another couple. She is strongly hetro but lesbo-curious. She has tried QQ and blogs, but got single guys and gays only.

Any suggestions?

Willa1
03-25-09, 00:03
Hi,

Quick question. Will be in Guangzhou for a week starting April for a trade show, staying at the White Swan hotel. Anyone know if it is girl friendly?

Thanks!

Mmlouie
03-25-09, 22:22
Hi,

Quick question. Will be in Guangzhou for a week starting April for a trade show, staying at the White Swan hotel. Anyone know if it is girl friendly?

Thanks!
I thought the White Swan Hotel is being renovated, it is done already? The White Swan Hotel prior to renovation was not girl friendly. Most 5 star hotels are not, you be better off staying in a non-branded 4 star and under hotel.

Willa1
04-09-09, 07:34
I thought the White Swan Hotel is being renovated, it is done already? The White Swan Hotel prior to renovation was not girl friendly. Most 5 star hotels are not, you be better off staying in a non-branded 4 star and under hotel.The White Swan is through with its renovtion. And it is very nice. Fortunately, my company selected it. So not much choice on the location- and you are right. Very strict entrance requirements, no chance to have anyone join you.

I did manage to sneak out twice during the 4 days I was there. The first night was Saturday. And went to the Sauna at the Victory Hotel at 53 Shamian. Just 4 blocks from the White Swan. The entrance to the sauna is on the west side of the hotel on a side street. The managers all speak english. And the facilities are very good. Very clean showers, steam & dry, chairs with individual TV's. Took advantage of the Full Body Massage. Taken to a room where I was introduced to a very attractive 21 year old woman. 5"5", large natural breasts (made for a great body massage), slender. Just my type. I was given the option to change. But liked her attitude in the intro, so stayed with her. She did not speak english. But we had good fun with hand language. The massage itself was not outstanding, but did the fire & ice, and FS and it was better than most sauna experiences I've had. Ended up with covered BJ, and 2 positions. Unfortunately, I was a little tired from the trip. I got the impression she was ready for more. About 90 minutes all together. Total was 535 RMB for the house. 300 tip for the girl. And 10 for the locker guys. A little expensive for Guangzhou. But it was a very clean location in a prime spot. And the young lady was good.

Second night (Monday) was the Star Hotel. Was clean or but not as well appointed sauna. And apparently not too many americans frequent this place. Good report on this place earlier. And can confirm it is clean & the pricing is about 200 RMB cheaper than the Victory. Did not make it to the Tang or the Cave as our hotel was a bit far. Hopefully next time!

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Ajashi
04-10-09, 13:12
1st time in Guangzhou next week and no idea on teh scene. Guess the Hotel should be fine but any freelancer scene or sthg? All advice appreciated as I haven't been in China for long.

Thanks and happy hunting

Escada
04-11-09, 00:32
First she pretended not to understand, but shortly there after she said: "OK then, I am a boy, so what? " So what! That is a big What! He then offered to give me a BJ, but I really could not. The evening ended with he going back to Karma and me having to jerk off.

Happy hunting in GZ!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Come on dude, I know that 3 ladyboys. I think it is not so difficult to realize that something is going on, when you see 3 filips, totally pimped with see or d cups and male voice. I guess your dick took control over your brain. LOL

South Gate
04-13-09, 16:43
I have been to Guangzhou twice, last April and last week. Both times I stayed at the Dong Fang Hotel. Both times I picked up street girls in front of this hotel and the China World hotel next time. Both times were really good. If you are staying in a hotel in Guangzhou, I would recommend these ladies. However others may have had more negative experiences.

Fast Eddie 48
04-13-09, 21:53
I have been to Guangzhou twice, last April and last week. Both times I stayed at the Dong Fang Hotel. Both times I picked up street girls in front of this hotel and the China World hotel next time. Both times were really good. If you are staying in a hotel in Guangzhou, I would recommend these ladies. However others may have had more negative experiences.South gate,

I hope that you don't overpaid most of this girl ask for 1000 rmb to start for st, most will go down to 400 rmb, most are average for hot girl you need to go to the top end KTV, Guangzhou is a very expensive city to play like most big city in China if you a newbie that don't know better.

Fast Eddie 48

Jude Bright
04-14-09, 00:41
Hi,

Quick question. Will be in Guangzhou for a week starting April for a trade show, staying at the White Swan hotel. Anyone know if it is girl friendly?

Thanks! It is relatively girl friendly. I mean I stayed there a few months ago and had a street girl approach me outside of the hotel when I am going to meet my business parner. I told her that I am going to have a bussiness meeting soon and asked her to come to my room at about 10 pm that night. She called me at about 15 to 10 pm and told me she is on the way. She showed up 5 to 10 pm and knocked the door. The floor I stayed has a girl attendent outside of the elevator door every night. I opened my room door and saw the street girl and also the girl attendent standing by the elevator door because my room is right by the elevator. The girl attendent even smiled to me when I looked at her without saying anything.

Once inside my room, we chat a little bit and we both went into the shower. She washed my very bit of my body, especially pay attention my little brother. Then, we procede to the bed. I had a lot of fun that night.

She asked for 600, I give her 800 because she really did a good job.

Fast Eddie 48
04-14-09, 04:42
It is relatively girl friendly. I mean I stayed there a few months ago and had a street girl approach me outside of the hotel when I am going to meet my business parner. I told her that I am going to have a bussiness meeting soon and asked her to come to my room at about 10 pm that night. She called me at about 15 to 10 pm and told me she is on the way. She showed up 5 to 10 pm and knocked the door. The floor I stayed has a girl attendent outside of the elevator door every night. I opened my room door and saw the street girl and also the girl attendent standing by the elevator door because my room is right by the elevator. The girl attendent even smiled to me when I looked at her without saying anything.

Once inside my room, we chat a little bit and we both went into the shower. She washed my very bit of my body, especially pay attention my little brother. Then, we procede to the bed. I had a lot of fun that night.

She asked for 600, I give her 800 because she really did a good job.Jude bright,

I know you have alot of money ,If she ask for 600 rmb offer her 400 rmb don't overpaid and kill the market for the other monger ,I hate all the newbie come to china once a yr for canton fair act like BSD.



fast eddie 48

South Gate
04-14-09, 09:37
The girl approached me and asked me if I wanted a massagee. I told her maybe and she right away said "massagee means sex". I was touched somehow and asked her out to dinner first. No price was discussed. We ate at a great Sichuan place. I hate that GZ qingdan stuff. After we went to my hotel room and arranged for two hours, two pops, for 400RMB. Then off for a foot massage and back to the room. I gave her another 300 in the morning. So I paid her 700 for the whole nite. How is that price? Last year was similar. I like that street. Hope to go back in a year.


South gate,

I hope that you don't overpaid most of this girl ask for 1000 rmb to start for st, most will go down to 400 rmb, most are average for hot girl you need to go to the top end KTV, Guangzhou is a very expensive city to play like most big city in China if you a newbie that don't know better.

Fast Eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
04-14-09, 16:41
The girl approached me and asked me if I wanted a massagee. I told her maybe and she right away said "massagee means sex". I was touched somehow and asked her out to dinner first. No price was discussed. We ate at a great Sichuan place. I hate that GZ qingdan stuff. After we went to my hotel room and arranged for two hours, two pops, for 400RMB. Then off for a foot massage and back to the room. I gave her another 300 in the morning. So I paid her 700 for the whole nite. How is that price? Last year was similar. I like that street. Hope to go back in a year.South gate

I think 700 rmb for all nighter with 3 pop is the going rate, she is gfe and you have a good time with her, I think next week during the canton fair price will go up because the SW know there will be many sucker in town.

Fast Eddie 48

Maverick2004
04-23-09, 13:18
Any reports on whether the hotel is GF and are there any mongering places nearby? Am staying there from end of month for a week. Any suggestions on nearby places within walking distance welcome. Is there a escort service one can call up?

I would appreciate all info. Will definitely post a report afterwards.

PrinceMV2
04-25-09, 13:56
Hi, I do have many numbers for incall in gz but am not sure posting ph no. Is allowed here. You may pm me for that.


Any reports on whether the hotel is GF and are there any mongering places nearby? Am staying there from end of month for a week. Any suggestions on nearby places within walking distance welcome. Is there a escort service one can call up?

I would appreciate all info. Will definitely post a report afterwards.

Fast Eddie 48
04-26-09, 00:16
Any reports on whether the hotel is GF and are there any mongering places nearby? Am staying there from end of month for a week. Any suggestions on nearby places within walking distance welcome. Is there a escort service one can call up?

I would appreciate all info. Will definitely post a report afterwards.Maverick 2004,

I have bring girl back to my room no problem, There are girl working the lobby and the disco inside the hotel, but last time I stay here last yr there are only a few but if you go outside the hotel just 100 yd down the st, there will be a few SW looking for customer, most are only average don't paid more than 400 rmb for ST.

Fast Eddie 48

China35
04-28-09, 17:06
Any reports on whether the hotel is GF and are there any mongering places nearby? Am staying there from end of month for a week. Any suggestions on nearby places within walking distance welcome. Is there a escort service one can call up?

I would appreciate all info. Will definitely post a report afterwards.I would say an AMBER, if they see anything could be a problem, once girl in the room should be fine.

Plenty of street action around there 400 is the standard quote, make sure you agree everything first or extras will be charged for, 200 possible.

China35
04-28-09, 17:09
It is relatively girl friendly. I mean I stayed there a few months ago and had a street girl approach me outside of the hotel when I am going to meet my business parner. I told her that I am going to have a bussiness meeting soon and asked her to come to my room at about 10 pm that night. She called me at about 15 to 10 pm and told me she is on the way. She showed up 5 to 10 pm and knocked the door. The floor I stayed has a girl attendent outside of the elevator door every night. I opened my room door and saw the street girl and also the girl attendent standing by the elevator door because my room is right by the elevator. The girl attendent even smiled to me when I looked at her without saying anything.

Once inside my room, we chat a little bit and we both went into the shower. She washed my very bit of my body, especially pay attention my little brother. Then, we procede to the bed. I had a lot of fun that night.

She asked for 600, I give her 800 because she really did a good job.Holy shit, this is why I avoid GZ now

Tiki Tour
04-29-09, 06:49
First time in GZ, here for the Canton Fair like everybody else.

I booked the Silver River Hotel on wotif.com as it was relatively cheap (for Fair time price). It is out of the way being a bit north of the GZ East railway station (14 RMB taxi ride actually).

Not really a 4 star hotel and the rooms are a bit shabby and although I was on the 10th floor the traffic noise was still high. Must say, the bed was comfortable and I slept very well for the two nights I stayed.

Anyway, I RTFF before going and was pleased to read they had a barber shop with take outs in the tiny shopping area beyond the lobby.

So dumped the bags and went there. I was immediately offered a massage by a pretty young thing but I said I wanted a hair cut which I got from the only guy there. This let me observe the 4 girls in my mirror, sometimes very close as they prettied themselves in the empty spot and mirror beside me. This was great as by the time the (good, but long) hair cut was done I had carefully chosen the little China Doll that I liked best.

Went first for a meal then back to the shop and paid my 300 RMB for 1 hour, chose my doll and arranged for her to visit my room in 15 mins.

Hi Fung turned up on time and came in and gave me a cuddle, gosh she is a small thing and I would guess about 20 to 22 yo. We both stripped and onto the bed where she did her best to massage me, but really she was just too small and gentle to do it well. Full marks for effort.

Then to the fun stuff. No bj was offered, I think she was afraid of the "western" dick. After the usual "oo so big" comments she put on a condom and I coached her on to me so she was in control and sure enough she was surprised that she was wet enough to slide down to take all of me :)

That was so great, just to feel her and watch her cute face framed by her perfect Black hair enjoy the sex as much as I did. Then I laid her on her back for mish but I was careful to be gentle which also helped me to last until a very satisfactory finish.

Cleaned up then spent the rest of the hour with a cuddle and a bit more of a try at a rub with these small hands.

Great GFE and a great value for money as it is a bit out of town. A full day at the fair meant I gave the 2nd night a miss. Pity now I think.

Blacklisted
04-29-09, 18:52
Quick report on Marriott hotel.

Taking girls in here from off the street outside McDonalds is fully possible - however you will be asked to sign the girls in by the security guard. If you alone (i.e. not sharing your room with anyone else) there is no charge, but you just need to sign an invoice with $0.00 on it and the girl gets her ID photographed.

Seems to be very common and there were herds of customers out there although by the sound of it from talking to the mummy it is a buyers market as the economic crisis has resulted in less bums on seats at Scarborough fair. Was told that this time last year prices were much higher.

Therefore prices start at 300. WSG and myself were unhappy with the street selection so the mummy called two in which roughly fit our specifications. Both about 19 and pretty cute. (we are not super fussy!)

To call them in the price goes up to 350 (+cab fair RMB20) payable after services rendered.

Happy hunting!!

Mr Speed
04-30-09, 08:50
HI Mongers

I will be in Guangzhou in 2 weeks , I jsut wnat to see if you guys have any pointers any new fun spot to go to

Any Info will be good

Thanks

Fast Eddie 48
04-30-09, 16:38
hi mongers

i will be in guangzhou in 2 weeks , i jsut wnat to see if you guys have any pointers any new fun spot to go to

any info will be good

thanksmr slow,

all the info is here in the forum and you don't rtff, do some reading if you want to keep up with fast eddie here.

fast eddie 48

Drfcarpenter
05-08-09, 08:41
I had some business in Guangzhou end of last month. Unfortunately during the Canto fair, so prices in hotels were up.

I stayed in Panyu (South-East Guangzhou) in a Chinese hotel called Nan Fan Yiyuan. Hardly anybody spoke English, but they had some english-students there during the fair to assist.

The hotel has a decent restaurant and a sauna / massage center. Good, but rather expensive. A decent massage with hand-job in the center costs 265RMB. You can also take girls to your rooms for 2 shots for 520RMB.

The massage girls are rather plain and wear training cloths.

The full sex girls are hot though. Wearing short school uniform type skirts and blouse.

The first girl I took was 19 years old from Wulan. Spoke more or less no English, but a great performer. No time pressure at all.

The second one was even better looking and also great service but a bit more mechanical.

Both gave me their cel phone number. The third night I rang the first girl again. (Directly not via Mamasan) She came to my room at 1 am and stayed until 9 am. Several shots and she asked for 400 RMB in the morning.

In a few month I have to go to Guangzhou again. This time I'm gong to stay in the center. Any pointers to bars like they have in Shanghai (Tong Ren Lu), or Hong Kong (Wanchai)?

PrinceMV2
05-08-09, 13:53
Hi all, many members mail me recently for incall nos in gz. Here are some numbers. Service depends time to time & girl to girl but I have never paid more than rmb 300 S. T. [Telephone Number deleted by Admin], name Sisi, & [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. Don't forget to post reports.

Cheers

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OldAsiaHand
05-10-09, 04:29
I checked into the 168 motel in Luoxi last night with a freebie. I noticed some WGs hanging around the parking lot in front of the hotel and there was a call shortly after I checked in. My freebie picked up the phone so she hung up, but it was obviously a girl working in the hotel offering service. Normally, a bunch of girls will open one room and start calling rooms until they hit paydirt. Often they make a deal with reception to let them know what rooms have single male guests. I checked in alone first so they must have thought I was by myself.

I might try going again in the future, however, if any fellow mongers want to try it out, kindly post the details e.g. girls, pricing, etc. At 168 RMB the room is basic but very clean and has free internet connection. It proved to be a good option to take a freebie since there is no time limit. A lot of guys must use it this way since they did not blink an eye when I checked out after 3 hours.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
05-10-09, 04:37
Went first for a meal then back to the shop and paid my 300 RMB for 1 hour, chose my doll and arranged for her to visit my room in 15 mins.


Tiki Tour,

Thanks for the post. This forum needs more mongers like you that RTFF, find the action and post a report.

My only comment is that 300RMB for an hour was probably 2X the going rate. ST should be 130-150 RMB in that area, maybe 200 RMB max for takeaway although your hotel was very close.

That said, everything is more expensive in GZ during the trade fair.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
05-10-09, 04:53
She asked for 600, I give her 800 because she really did a good job.

Jude Bright,

First of all, don't you know that all SW ask for more than they will accept? Most in GZ will go for 200 RMB ST during normal times. I get them for 100-150 RMB in the suburbs. Second, do you usually give waiters a 33% tip for good service?

With all due respect, I suggest that you stop paying such ridiculous prices in GZ or stay away altogether. It makes it more difficult for those of us that live here.

Just my POV.

OAH

California8
05-11-09, 18:57
I am an ABC long time reader of the forum and have finally had a chance to travel to China. Now I have returned and can post my first report. I speak and understand barely minimal putonghua as in enough to get by when asking for prices, ages and home provinces. I speak and understand a Cantonese dialect not widely spoken thoughout the province but it is close enough that it helps me be able to say that I can get by with minimal Cantonese language abilities.

I have visited Gaungzhou and stayed at a friend’s place in Dashi town in the Panyu district near GZ. I have RTFF and learned about BBS, Sauna and KTV. My mongering activities were restricted to solo opportunities to venture out and the first time out I thought play it safe and try a hotel.

When I RTFF, I learned that most business hotels have extra services. I visited the KingFive Hotel in Panyu at 588 Yingbin Road across from the BMW agency; there is a large banner welcoming visitors to the Canton Trade Fair above the front entrance. The large menu for Massage in the lobby showed the most expensive option being the VIP Korean massage for $198 for 90 minutes. Up to the second floor and asked for the VIP massage, I did not negotiate since this was a published price. The hostess showed me to a room which was a regular hotel room with large bed. Gals came one at a time for me to choose, I chose the second one who petitie and cute, early 20’s from Guangdong in a tracksuit uniform. I showered by myself as she watched tv. The oil massage was very good but only feeling of her legs was allowed as she would step back as I worked my way up to her thighs. On the turnover, my attempt to slip my hand under the top was rebuffed and request for her top off was answered with a no dice wave of the hand. She finished me off with a very enthusiastic HJ and left me with a smile on this HE. Showered again myself and exited to pay.

In hindsight, perhaps I could have asked the hostess initially if FS available from any of the providers and thus had a choice from gals who provided more. I am thrilled to at least not have been left with just a veggie massage on this first time. On my next exploration, I will search for FS.

CAL

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California8
05-11-09, 20:44
As I explored more on foot, I came across some service outlets. First one which I saw but did not sample was up a short alley across from the side entrance to the Panyu Xiang Jiang Hotel at 538 Yingbin Road in Dashi town. Easy to spot from the side street; there was a large show window with 6-8 gals sitting around in dressy clothes. As I advanced up the alley, a guy sitting on the street accompanied me and encouraged me. A price of $400 was given while I viewed the gals through the window; many doable from young to older. Fortunately, from RTFF, I knew this price to be too high and just said I would return after having a bite to eat. I decided not to negotiate since I wanted to check out the rest of the area first.

I found another BBS nearby off of Dayong Road. This road starts where the pedistrian bridge crosses over Yingbin Road just past the BMW agency. From Yingbin Road, proceed through a few intersections and it is up a narrow alley to the left. There were 3 young gals watching tv on a sofa with a papasan sitting outside. I enquired and was quoted $150 for FS. I passed on the tall thin one with the wild hair and chose the shorter one, both cute but this one more appealing to me. She took a key and we went across the alley up to a second floor room. I expected the worse and was pleasantly surprised to find a room with tasteful and alluring posters on the walls with a large bed. There was even an air conditioner but the bathroom was the pits though. I expected just a quickie from this 18 year old from Guizhou. She undressed me and allowed me to undress her. I get much more excited when I can slowly undress and caress and kiss rather than just a quick strip on her part. A very tight body and small tits which I am ok with as I guess this often comes with the territory of my preference for the younger gals. She allowed kissing of her tits and nipples then tried to avoid DFK but I persisted and she allowed. I asked for BJ with sign language and she resisted but I kept at it. She was a real trooper as she tried BBJ but violently gagged (not faking) and I did not press the issue. I am guessing she has had very little experience with BJ as perhaps most of the customers are locals who do not request. On to the deed as her hard body had me ready. Very tight and slight moaning, not loud enough for me to know for sure she was faking. Even with the air conditioner, I started dripping beads of sweat on her in mish; so pretty when they close their eyes while I am pounding away. Changed to doggie and finished up. What a great sight from behind. I paid up and off we went.

Perhaps I paid more than the local rate as I paid what I was quoted. Actually I was so happy to hear $150 after earlier hearing $400 and for a much cuter girl. I was still feeling the effects of jet lag so no more exploring on this night.

CAL

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OldAsiaHand
05-13-09, 04:35
California8,

Good report on BBS action in Dashi. I will try to find the BBS you refer to since I often monger in the area.

That said, more and more BBS in the Panyu area are being shut down. I went hunting with Mr. B on Sunday late afternoon.

Nanchun: There used to be over 25 BBS in this town. We were told that only 1 was left and they only had 3 girls working at night. A motorcycle took us to a smaller village nearby where they had 6 girls in a room. Price was 100 RMB ST, but the quality was 2-3. We passed.

Shiqi: All the BBS, including the HJ places were shut. There used to be 15-20 places in the center of town.

Shilong: One of my favorite BBS is history. They opened a legit place there. All the FS BBS are gone. There are only a couple of HJ joints left. I went into one and selected a girl. Rate was 40 RMB for the HJ + 120 RMB more to stick it in. No BBBJ available so I walked.

A motorcycle guy approached us and told us everything was shut and offered to take us to a new BBS nearby. Off we went. There were 6-7 girls in the shop, most of them doable. I selected one with that "China doll" look from Guizhou. It was probably one of the worst if not the worst BBS experiences I have ever had. First of all, the mama tried to charge me 200 RMB. I countered with 130 and she kept bargaining with me for 150. When I was ready to walk, she agreed for 130 RMB.

On the way to the room, I wanted to confirm BBBJ with the girl. She told me 200 RMB. She kept asking me if I was a stud. I wanted to leave but my little head took over. I agree to give her an extra 20 RMB for the BBBJ which lasted less than 1 minute. She wouldn't even let me touch her and only let me do her mish complaining that it would hurt any other way. Even with the mish, she positioned her legs so I could not completely penetrate. After I popped and paid her, she had the nerve to ask me for a tip. Never again.

I never learn my lesson. If I am quoted a laowai price and bargain for the local price, I will not get good service.

ShiQiao: There are still plenty of HJ places open, but most of the FS places are gone and the ones left have very poor quality. Only one HJ place I know of will let you stick it in for 100 RMB tip. Most of them have a standard menu:

40 RMB: Rushed HJ and very little groping allowed.

80 RMB: Soapy or oily HJ and more liberal.

120 RMB: Breast HJ

160 RMB: Legs HJ

BBBJ is usually not on the menu. Problem is that they try to upsell you early in the session and if they are not successful they rush you out with a quick plain HJ.

Even the SW action in Shiqiao is hit or miss as LE patrol constantly at night.

I am desperate to find another new area to monger in the Panyu area. CP is a bit of a hike for just a quick release.

OAH

California8
05-13-09, 18:52
Had to stop by the BodyShop after flying back into San Diego today.

Arrived around 1pm to several beauties hanging in the club. Maybe 3 or 4 patrons vs about 8 girls. Nice odds. Was planning to atleast get a dance with Lexi since she knows what I like and how to "finish". However, a diferrent young gal sat down next to me and started the "you wanna take me in the back for a dance? " routine. At first I told her I just arrived and I wanted to see the stage talent some since there were some new girls I haven; t seen before. She was happy to plop down in the seat next to me an watch the girls as well.

She had a very warm sexy smile and smelled good. Started some small talk and she cuddled in a little closer with her hands roaming freely over me. I thought. Maybe this girl will be a nice trist in the back as well. We discussed some pricing per dance and what she was going to do and show. She was a little apprehensive to discuss her dance style and pulled the. "you just need to take me back there and see" so I was a bit leary. Her warm body, good smells and continued talk eventually won me over so I decided that I was going to get a single $40 dance to try her out since I was assured I would get a great show for that price. Typical dance is $20.

Once in the booth, she positioned me the way she wanted and surprisingly went right for my pants. I told her there will be an extra tip if she keeps that up and she sure did. Pulled out the down south guy and started playing with him as well as herself. She moved up on me a little futher and pulled her top to the side to expose her nice see cups with some awesome nipples. Nice and firm as she leaned forward and rubbed it along my lips. So nice to suck on.

Song ended and I said keep going since she got me worked up. Had her flip around and she showed me her ass from the back side. She pulled down her panties and showed me a nice spread. Didn't quite let me get my finger deep in her but she did let me play a bit around it. Second song is about to end so I tell her again to keep going. Obviously the other head is in control now. She turns around again and gets her mouth down close to him and I could have sworn she took a couple of licks. She had me worked up really good.

Her skills were pretty good but I was having a hard time busting for some reason. Finally finished in song number 5 but gezz, it was a bit of a hit on the wallet as I seemed to have agreed to about $40 a song. Expensive HJ, not because of her over charggin, rather more from my lack of ability to complete when I wanted. I gave her every last dollar I had fot total damage of about $1. 65

I would definately get dances from this gal again. She looked like she might be a mix of hispanic/asian. Hot, nice body, cute face, butterfly tat above her rear. Asked if she has a boyfriend and she said she has about 100 boyfriends. I told her she needs 101. Wanted to get my number but I thought better of giving her my only cell number. She mentioned she lives in Chula Vista so you Southern guys could have a nice gem on the side down there. Seems like extras off site could be had from her. Name was Pricilla.

Guys, go visit that club during the day mid week and have some fun with this girl. She is working to pay for school and is a lot of fun.

Juice

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Babaluba
05-16-09, 10:12
....
Her skills were pretty good but I was having a hard time busting for some reason. Finally finished in song number 5 but gezz, it was a bit of a hit on the wallet as I seemed to have agreed to about $40 a song. Expensive HJ, not because of her over charggin, rather more from my lack of ability to complete when I wanted. I gave her every last dollar I had fot total damage of about $1. 65




I sincerely hope $ means RMB in your reports....

cheers,
B.

California8
05-16-09, 15:12
"Had to stop by the BodyShop after flying back into San Diego today."

Babaluba and others:

Post #636 was not written by me. I am not in San Diego. There obviously is some mistake as this San Diego report is posted in the Guangzhou thread. I did write a report with that or a similar title so I assume it may be in the San Diego thread somewhere in cyberspace. Perhaps the moderator just hit some wrong buttons. No harm done, I just don't want to be flamed for posting in the wrong place.

CAL

BionicMan
05-17-09, 01:44
"Had to stop by the BodyShop after flying back into San Diego today."

Babaluba and others:

Post #636 was not written by me. I am not in San Diego. There obviously is some mistake as this San Diego report is posted in the Guangzhou thread. I did write a report with that or a similar title so I assume it may be in the San Diego thread somewhere in cyberspace. Perhaps the moderator just hit some wrong buttons. No harm done, I just don't want to be flamed for posting in the wrong place.

CAL
so..this happened in San Diego and not in Guanzhou.
Fair enough. Puts some light on prices too as those $ are real US$!.... wow...
A few nights out like that you can afford a trip to the real Guanzhou (if you can also have the logistic chance to do so) and the rest is "peanuts"

Qball
05-17-09, 04:20
I checked into the 168 motel in Luoxi last night with a freebie. I noticed some WGs hanging around the parking lot in front of the hotel and there was a call shortly after I checked in. My freebie picked up the phone so she hung up, but it was obviously a girl working in the hotel offering service. Normally, a bunch of girls will open one room and start calling rooms until they hit paydirt. Often they make a deal with reception to let them know what rooms have single male guests. I checked in alone first so they must have thought I was by myself.

I might try going again in the future, however, if any fellow mongers want to try it out, kindly post the details e.g. girls, pricing, etc. At 168 RMB the room is basic but very clean and has free internet connection. It proved to be a good option to take a freebie since there is no time limit. A lot of guys must use it this way since they did not blink an eye when I checked out after 3 hours.

OAHYou need to get your freebie to sign up for a membership card. You can get some discounts. I used to frequent the 168 off of luoxi bridge. They have a floor, called 2A or something with a very short ceiling. I think for you, you can literally touch the ceiling. But anyways the room on this floor is cheaper than the rest.

Good thing is mcdonald's is right next door, 24hr quick eat and recharge.

Acerboy
05-18-09, 07:30
Guys,

Have not been to GZ for the last 2 years. RTFF till Nov, 08 but didn't see any KTV names. Need to bring a customer out one of the nights. I did go 2 years ago to a KTV, name in english was Family Leisure or something like that. Great place but lost the name card. I'm checking with one of my Chinese contact for the name of that KTV.

Anyone with KTV contacts and incall numbers, please PM me. Appreciate it very much. Things you need to do for customers.

I've managed to get the ktv Luxury Family number by checking my own FR in 2007. Should have done that.

OldAsiaHand
05-23-09, 11:13
You need to get your freebie to sign up for a membership card. You can get some discounts. I used to frequent the 168 off of luoxi bridge. They have a floor, called 2A or something with a very short ceiling. I think for you, you can literally touch the ceiling. But anyways the room on this floor is cheaper than the rest.

Good thing is mcdonald's is right next door, 24hr quick eat and recharge.

Qball,

Yes, I think they had some rooms on the board at 128 and 148. These must be the one you are referring to.

OAH

JoeBanker00
05-25-09, 02:48
Was just in Guangzhou last week and checked out the Sauna in the Victory Hotel.

Yu Long Sauna (浴龙)
Address: 沙面北街53号 (53 Sha Mian Bei Jie)
Phone: 8121-6188

Entrance is along the side of the east building of the Victory Hotel. If you take a cab there, you'll see the entrance of the Yu Long Sauna before you get to the hotel (1-way street).

Went downstairs - typical sauna setup. Got a foot massage, lunch and 90 minute full service massage for 570 rmb. Pretty good bargain. Didn't get a line up (first time there) but the girl I got was cute so didn't ask to switch. I went in the afternoon and the girl told me there were probably around 10 girls working at that time - in the evening there are supposedly 20+ working there.

Couldn't judge the overall quality of the girls - but thought the Sauna facilities were pretty nice (if you consider something like an 18 or Rio in Macau "top of the line") and the price and service were definitely attractive.

Vavar
06-14-09, 18:35
during my previous visit to gz last jan 09, found that the hotel that i'm staying.. i.e. moonbay hotel (locals calls it yueliang wan hotel)

there is a health club with details below:

jing jie keep health club 静界养生会
yueliang wan hotel, 18 mingyue 1th road,wu yang new city
五羊新城明月一路18号月亮湾酒店
booking no: (020) 87293417
opening hours: 10am-11pm
http://www.jingjie-club.com/xmtj.asp

at first i believed it was a straight massage place, but soon after i looked at the therapist. (same elevator with the therapist) i straightly believed that it isn't.

stunning is the word for the therapist. white, clean, flawless. feels wanna bonk her. however due to my short trip i wasn't able to have any "fun" activity during my previous trip, sadly.

hope the info can bring out some fr. cheers mate.

PrinceMV2
06-19-09, 13:14
Hi all,

Reached GZ on the 30th morning. After finishing days work went out in the night to find out club scene. Tang: very little crowd surprisingly, came out. The one right opposite tang [name forget.] not anything great. Cave: almost empty.[ now closed for renovation]. Gypsy king: lots of crowd & girls. But no stunners. Only one girl I liked was busy with another guy. Came out & reached mcd. Took an choco icesream Sunday & came out & looking for a cab to go to the famous kama bar. I was standing in front of star bucks when I saw this stunner. Was looking better than top grade models, height around 5.8, v. Beautiful & looking so sexy in mini skirt type dress. She was drunken & having difficulty in walking in high heels. I approched her with ice cream cup in my hand. Things like Hi. How are you. Didn't you remember me. Like these & she started eating ice cream from my cup with my spoon. Came to point. Asked her to come to my hotel. Asked 1000 rmb. I said 500 & she said sorry. Thank you. & started walking back. I was not in the mood to lose this one & asked her 100 usd. She agreed & we sat in the cab & the journey begins. She started giving dfk with her tounge in my mouth all the way to my hotel. When ever I tried to finish the icecream she took the cream from my mouth with her mouth & ate. What a gfe exp. Reached hotel. No problem with girls in this hotel. In the bath she was more exited, horny & wild than me. That was a super hot session & she almost ate my cock. Excellent BBBJ without my asking. Gave her daty. She was so wet within minutes. Very tight & soft hole. Very clean. No hair. I clearly felt when she came. This was the maximum pleasure you can expect from a paid girl. So. Excellent start of this gz visit. More to come.

Cheers

YoursDeepus
06-20-09, 06:38
Nice report!


Hi all,

Reached GZ on the 30th morning. After finishing days work went out in the night to find out club scene.

..........

Reached hotel. No problem with girls in this hotel. In the bath she was more exited, horny & wild than me. That was a super hot session & she almost ate my cock. Excellent BBBJ without my asking. Gave her daty. She was so wet within minutes. Very tight & soft hole. Very clean. No hair. I clearly felt when she came. This was the maximum pleasure you can expect from a paid girl. So. Excellent start of this gz visit. More to come.

Cheers

PrinceMV2
06-20-09, 16:26
I was feeling tired next evening after days visits to the markets. So prefered to sleep early. The third morning called a**** { the stunner I met 1st night ], & asked her if she can meet in the night. She agreed to meet at tang around 12, after her duty in a five star hotel finishes. I left my room at around 10 pm, & to pass time went to gypsy king. When I was moving to the back side area of gypsy king to watch live dance, this girl came walking right in front of me. This was the girl, who was busy the first night. She was wearing a low cut dress to show big part of her huge boobs. Her name is L***a. Offered her beer. Spent some time at the bar & she agreed for 400 rmb, though I tried for 300. In my hotel room, straight to bathroom & to my huge dissappointment, the huge boobs went down like pack of cards when I removed the bra. Any how other wise nice body. Had a good session. Mean while got 2 calls & three sms from a**** that she is waiting in tang. Replied her & regreted that am not feeling well & plz make it tomorrow.

Cheers

PrinceMV2
06-21-09, 10:09
Thanks yd, will show you her vedios & pics when we meet next.


Nice report!

PrinceMV2
06-21-09, 10:31
The fourth day also passed in my being busy in markets than sleeping early. Fifth morning I called a***l in the morning & fixed time. Today was her off day from hotel & she agreed to meet around 10.30 outside garden hotel. I reached at right time & after a call from her that she came in a tight jeans & sleevless short top looking just great. Gave me a long kiss & I took her to gypsy king first. At the bar I bought beer for me & she ordered some vodka mix drink. Both drinks around 30-35 rmb each. While drinking she played dice games, & took some sips from my glass & pressurised me to have sips from her glass. Slipped peanuts into my mouth from her soft fingers, many times & finally holding my hand took me to the dance floor. & guys what a sexy dance she did. Rubbing my lower body with her lower body from front & back again & again. Than she whispered in my ears that your cock is already standing & ready for it. In all danced with me at 3-4 songs, all asian music including punjabi bhangras being played there. Than pull out her hanky & cleaned sweatning from my face 2-3 times. I felt most of the people on & around the floor watching her excitdly & me jealously. All in all. Great gf experience. Than we moved from there, reached hotel & had a super hot session again. Clicked some vedios & picks from my cell phone & she had no objection. Actually she started behaving like porn stars in front of the camera. One more thing, . Gave her 500rmb this time & she accepted without any problem.

Cheers

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Unlimited
06-27-09, 19:36
Was not quite a time there but will visit in 2 weeks.

Are there the BBS close to the back entrance still available?

Isn't there any good day action in this aerea which is recomendable. massage ect.

Cave ad tung still good in the evenings?

Thanks to the experts :)

Bad Boy Billy
06-30-09, 05:43
Info from recent International arrivees please.

Did the Chinese health authorities enter your plane on arrival and check temperatures of ALL passengers on board prior to letting you de-plane?

SmartEuropean
06-30-09, 21:35
So I landed in Gz at mid afternoon coming from Europe and got a taxi to Rundu Hotel which I found on internet. A very normal choice to have some rest and get over jet leg before my going to the Philippines via Macau. The hotel is very nice, two restaurants, tea house and good no sex massage. No intention of hunting but, after dinner, I went to the restaurant ground floor where there is a KTV. Nice people nice everything. After a while I started chatting with a sexy baby of 40, slim, sweet smile and good conversation. Decent dress and very positive approach. After about one hour of music and talk and sipping soft drinks I offered her a walk and she agreed. One more hour later, after walking hand in hand and other small hugging I offered her to see my room and she very calmly agreed. And we spent four days together. Going around to visit the town and all the tourist attraction and good sex in evenings and mornings. She told me she was getting bored at home. She is from Shenzhen and her English name is Linda. And so decided to spend few days in Gz. She told me it is what she does about every month. Her daughter, 21, is studying somewhere. Anyway, wonderful company, sweet, smooth shaved pussy with a very delicious taste. Refused oral sex but enjoyed a lot DATY. For the rest a good and passionate bed partner. Very nice body with firm tits and gorgeus brown nipples. She left her room and moved to mine. And we had a very good time together. I saw few other girls at the KTV in the week end but I cannot say whether they were pro, semipro or just people enjoying their time there. Anyway, when it was time to go to Manila, my real destination, I offered her some money which she refused in a very nice way. All she requested was just to pay her meals. Really small damage (320 Rmb for the room, 2 breakfasts included) and very nice experience. Two weeks later, coming back from Manila, I should have gone to Silver River Hotel because of the report read on ISG. I booked it through Agoda, an agency I never used before. On the voucher there was an address with was wrong and the taxi driver got mad to find it and at the end it failed in spite of all his efforts and inquiries to the people of that area. No phone number on the voucher. So impossibile to call the hotel and nobody replied at the call center. When I got back home I asked to have my money back, about 35 Us dollars, but they refused, so my advice is to avoid Agoda which is a not serious agency. At the end I asked the taxi driver to go again to Rundu Hotel. I went for a wonderful feet massage. 50 Rmb for 70 minutes. I tipped the girl 10 Rmb, very nice and very skilled. Then to KTV again but this time I was not so lucky to find Linda or other nice girls. So I asked for help at the concierge. The boy gave me a card with a phone number which I guess I must not write here. The papasan asked me 700 Rmb which I refused. At the end we agreed on 450. 20 minutes later a girl rang at my bell. About 22. Not bad but nothing special. Shower and then in bed. Very poor experience. She just started to go up and down with her hand on my tired (after 2 weeks in Manila, Angeles, Macau and Jakarta) brother. It was a surprise for me too that he got up and she immediately went on her back for a mish. Which I found extremely boring and disappointing. So I undressed my poor brother and asked her for a hand job. Quite boring that too. So I popped and shower again. She asked for taxi money which I refused because IMHO did nothing to deserve it. So she left. I went to sleep and the following morning I went to the airport to go back home.

Bad Boy Billy
07-01-09, 04:40
She is from Shenzhen and her English name is Linda.................. Her daughter, 21, is studying somewhere.Did you work hard on a 'cow and calf' experience?

Jujim
07-02-09, 11:02
I think SmartEuropean really hit the jackpot with Linda. I don't think she is a regular in the freebie scene. Must be a real bored housewife. Probably into the duck market LOL.

Clue: don't do oral and enjoy DATY. Why: Most Chinese don't expect/want their wives to do oral (that is for mistress outside) and certainly they don't DATY!

Hope you got her number and enjoy as much until such time she feel guilty. Sorta

Cheers

Nelta
07-05-09, 15:17
Hey all, I'm new here in the forum, and I'm going to GZ as a backpacker this sommer, and I will be living in hostle. And since I'm new at "getting a girl" thing, I found this website, and read through this report thread.

And since I have been reading all these posts about hotels. Then I wondered if it is possible get a girl? or if there is any possiblities to get another room or maybe even into the hostle..? (ofcause the hostle room will be a private one)

Nelta
07-05-09, 15:35
Hi all,

I'm new on this site, and I have been going through this thread because I'm going to Guangzhou as for vacation, and will be living at a Hostle, and since there is no reports about getting a girl at a hostle, I wanted to ask if anyone have had the experience? The hostle will of cause be a single room hostle. Or is it possible to get a private room with a street girl?

Regards,

Nelta

PrinceMV2
07-06-09, 15:45
Was sleeping peacefully in my hotel room. When the cell ph. Rang at around 2 am in the night. It was one of my old friend settled in Guangzhou. He insisted me to reach at the kama bar at the earliest. I tried to convience him that am tired & its already too late. But he was in no mood to listen. So friendship sake I woke up, changed clothes, got a cab & reached kama. Sh**d was standing out side with his Chinese business partner who very quickly paid the cab & all of three moved in side & guys. What a jam packed crowd in side. Girls of every variety. Size. Shape & colour was available there & the quality was also the best. Certainly the most IN night club this side of Guangzhou. Sh***d ordered a bottle of chivas regal. Around 500 rmb I think. Mixed in a big jar with coke and ice cubes & we started drinking. Just next to our table a group of three Chinese girls were enjoying & our Chinese friend asked them to join us & have drinks. One of the girl was a stunner, around 20 immediately caught my attention. Sh***d & his Chinese friend introduced me as there boss to the girls & within minutes the stunner was in my arms. Now strange for me was that these girls inspite of having drinks from our table ordered another bottle of cr & paid the bill immediately. Sh***d told me the are doing very good jobs & come here only for enjoyment. & I should not talk about money with them. I was more than happy. All in all she drank one after one. Many glasses of cr & was in full mood very soon. Took her to dance floor & almost had half the sex on floor itself with kissing her every part, & rubbing her from everywhere. At around 6 am we reached in our room, had an excellent session. She left at around 7.30 & within minutes I was vomiting in the bath. After taking so many pegs of cr, my stomach remained upset the remaining day.& also the head pain. So I rested most time of the day.

Cheers

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PrinceMV2
07-07-09, 14:42
Report 901423, princemv2 Guangzhou visit: day 8


Was sleeping peacefully in my hotel room. When the cell ph. Rang at around 2 am in the night. It was one of my old friend settled in Guangzhou. He insisted me to reach at the kama bar at the earliest. I tried to convience him that am tired & its already too late. But he was in no mood to listen. So friendship sake I woke up, changed clothes, got a cab & reached kama. Sh**d was standing out side with his Chinese business partner who very quickly paid the cab & all of three moved in side & guys. What a jam packed crowd in side. Girls of every variety. Size. Shape & colour was available there & the quality was also the best. Certainly the most IN night club this side of Guangzhou. Sh***d ordered a bottle of chivas regal. Around 500 rmb I think. Mixed in a big jar with coke and ice cubes & we started drinking. Just next to our table a group of three Chinese girls were enjoying & our Chinese friend asked them to join us & have drinks. One of the girl was a stunner, around 20 immediately caught my attention. Sh***d & his Chinese friend introduced me as there boss to the girls & within minutes the stunner was in my arms. Now strange for me was that these girls inspite of having drinks from our table ordered another bottle of cr & paid the bill immediately. Sh***d told me the are doing very good jobs & come here only for enjoyment. & I should not talk about money with them. I was more than happy. All in all she drank one after one. Many glasses of cr & was in full mood very soon. Took her to dance floor & almost had half the sex on floor itself with kissing her every part, & rubbing her from everywhere. At around 6 am we reached in our room, had an excellent session. She left at around 7.30 & within minutes I was vomiting in the bath. After taking so many pegs of cr, my stomach remained upset the remaining day.& also the head pain. So I rested most time of the day.

Cheers

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PrinceMV2
07-07-09, 14:44
Princemv2. Guangzhou visit: day 5


The fourth day also passed in my being busy in markets than sleeping early. Fifth morning I called a***l in the morning & fixed time. Today was her off day from hotel & she agreed to meet around 10.30 outside garden hotel. I reached at right time & after a call from her that she came in a tight jeans & sleevless short top looking just great. Gave me a long kiss & I took her to gypsy king first. At the bar I bought beer for me & she ordered some vodka mix drink. Both drinks around 30-35 rmb each. While drinking she played dice games, & took some sips from my glass & pressurised me to have sips from her glass. Slipped peanuts into my mouth from her soft fingers, many times & finally holding my hand took me to the dance floor. & guys what a sexy dance she did. Rubbing my lower body with her lower body from front & back again & again. Than she whispered in my ears that your cock is already standing & ready for it. In all danced with me at 3-4 songs, all asian music including punjabi bhangras being played there. Than pull out her hanky & cleaned sweatning from my face 2-3 times. I felt most of the people on & around the floor watching her excitdly & me jealously. All in all. Great gf experience. Than we moved from there, reached hotel & had a super hot session again. Clicked some vedios & picks from my cell phone & she had no objection. Actually she started behaving like porn stars in front of the camera. One more thing, . Gave her 500rmb this time & she accepted without any problem.

Cheers

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Bohicaaa
07-07-09, 17:28
Hi all,

I'm new on this site, and I have been going through this thread because I'm going to Guangzhou as for vacation, and will be living at a Hostle, and since there is no reports about getting a girl at a hostle, I wanted to ask if anyone have had the experience? The hostle will of cause be a single room hostle. Or is it possible to get a private room with a street girl?

Regards,

NeltaWelcome but RTFF first. To answer your question, yes there are hourly hotels that the WG may be able to refer to you. Beats 'coitus interruptous' in a communal hostel.

PrinceMV2
07-08-09, 14:16
Hi guys,

thanks for your PMs in appreciation of my reports.

But I would have appreciated if you would have posted them on forum.

Old asia hand,

I'm looking forward to meet you in Delhi.

Nelta
07-08-09, 18:27
Welcome but RTFF first. To answer your question, yes there are hourly hotels that the WG may be able to refer to you. Beats 'coitus interruptous' in a communal hostel.Thanks Alot!, and sorry for the double posting, I thought the first one didnt go through. Really Sorry

Regrads

Nelta

Dewdrops
07-11-09, 19:36
Anyone know where to find a preggo babe. Someone off the street or a factory worker looking to make extra money?

Member #4378
07-14-09, 16:52
I am arriving to CAN shortly after midnight and leaving it at 10:30am the same day. Is there a hotel near CAN airport with a street action or BBS's nearby? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Bnlee2
07-14-09, 17:24
Anyone know where to find a preggo babe. Someone off the street or a factory worker looking to make extra money?That is not a difficult situation. if you have such a preggo fetish, why don't you seek an "er tai" in china and just keep her full of you seeds and you could have a lifetime supply of preggo fetish. My advice is to go west to smaller town where the cost of an "er tai" is much more economically affordable. Maybe with the lower cost you could have more than one. Some young woman may not mind the "er tai" status.

Just my 2rmb on this.

OldAsiaHand
07-15-09, 08:30
Info from recent International arrivees please.

Did the Chinese health authorities enter your plane on arrival and check temperatures of ALL passengers on board prior to letting you de-plane?

BBB,

I am just catching up on the board. They have entered the plane to check temperatures before de-planing during the last 3 times I arrived in Guangzhou in the last month; the latest last week.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
07-15-09, 14:07
I am arriving to CAN shortly after midnight and leaving it at 10:30am the same day. Is there a hotel near CAN airport with a street action or BBS's nearby? Any suggestions are appreciated.

You will find some action in HuaDu which is the closest reasonably sized town near the airport. There are several decent 4 star hotels there. QingYuan is further away but there is more action there. Home to the former "1,000 girls street" which no longer exists, there are still some BBS open in the area after dark and SWs near the hotels. There is a new Novatel that I stayed at last year.

Just my POV.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
07-15-09, 14:18
Thanks Alot!, and sorry for the double posting, I thought the first one didnt go through. Really Sorry

Regrads

Nelta

Nelta,

Expect to pay between 50-100 RMB for 2-3 hours. Nearly every 3-4 star hotel in Guangzhou has a ST rate.

OAH

Dewdrops
07-15-09, 16:32
Anyone has confirmed information or possibility on where to find one?


That is not a difficult situation. If you have such a preggo fetish, why don't you seek an "er tai" in China and just keep her full of you seeds and you could have a lifetime supply of preggo fetish. My advice is to go west to smaller town where the cost of an "er tai" is much more economically affordable. Maybe with the lower cost you could have more than one. Some young woman may not mind the "er tai" status.

Just my 2rmb on this.

Bnlee2
07-15-09, 23:52
Anyone has confirmed information or possibility on where to find one?Dewdrops.

Do you know what I am talking about. Do you know the meaning of an "er tai". You sound a bit green behind the ears. There are many businessmen with "er tai". There are even condo complexes where many of the women in there are living there in that situation. There are several of these places in Shenzhen. Maybe it is time for you to RTFF instead of having others confirm the info. Get with the program and RTFF and maybe buy a subscription to the forum so that you can PM senior members. If you do not understand some of these abbreviation, maybe you should look up at the menu screen and familiarize yourself with the terminology of the forum.

You sound like my old boss in my younger days. Asking everyone to do this and do that and everyone around him realize what an idiot this person was. Eventually, the higher up realize what an idiot he was and "threw his sorry ass" out on the sidewalk. Last known address of this guy is a homeless corner in east LA.

Panettone
07-17-09, 00:46
I'm currently at the Garden hotel but don't have the time or energy for pick ups at Tang club. Trawling the forum, I saw that the hotel directly over the road (Baiyun Hotel) does BJ for aroudn RMB600. Overpriced, I know but not many options around here. Also, some of the reviews were pretty lukewarm so I went in with very low expectations.

Sauna entrance is on the 2nd floor. At first they play dumb so you have to say that a friend told you that extras are available. I was shown YinYin who was early 30s but decent looking, definitely not a stunner. Her performance was great though. Good massage, let me grope to my hearts content during the xiao didi massage. I had to ask for the BJ and she didn't have a condom, so BBBJ for no extra price. I got her to lay on her back and fingered her while she blew me. She was really getting into it. Strangely, she liked the full digit insertion more than the clit stimulation. I CIM but but I don't think she was expecting it. Still, she took it like a trooper, then rushed to the trash and spat like I just put poison in her mouth!

Since my expectations were so low, I really had a great time even though it was overprice, she wasn't exactly hot, and all I got was a BJ.

I speak a little mandarin and warmed up the whole event with lots of chit chat so maybe that explains why my service was a better than previous reports. Like a previous poster said, it is better than jacking off alone in the Garden Hotel.

PrinceMV2
07-17-09, 11:49
Hi,

At Baiyun Hotel Sauna, i was shown around 15 girls in three line ups. amount asked was 7 or 800 rmb for full sex massage. they were ready for room service full sex massage. all the girls were above 26-27 years & i was lookin for younger one.i didnt saw any other customer at that time.


I'm currently at the Garden hotel but don't have the time or energy for pick ups at Tang club. Trawling the forum, I saw that the hotel directly over the road (Baiyun Hotel) does BJ for aroudn RMB600. Overpriced, I know but not many options around here. Also, some of the reviews were pretty lukewarm so I went in with very low expectations.

Sauna entrance is on the 2nd floor. At first they play dumb so you have to say that a friend told you that extras are available. I was shown YinYin who was early 30s but decent looking, definitely not a stunner. Her performance was great though. Good massage, let me grope to my hearts content during the xiao didi massage. I had to ask for the BJ and she didn't have a condom, so BBBJ for no extra price. I got her to lay on her back and fingered her while she blew me. She was really getting into it. Strangely, she liked the full digit insertion more than the clit stimulation. I CIM but but I don't think she was expecting it. Still, she took it like a trooper, then rushed to the trash and spat like I just put poison in her mouth!

Since my expectations were so low, I really had a great time even though it was overprice, she wasn't exactly hot, and all I got was a BJ.

I speak a little mandarin and warmed up the whole event with lots of chit chat so maybe that explains why my service was a better than previous reports. Like a previous poster said, it is better than jacking off alone in the Garden Hotel.

Manatsu
07-18-09, 22:31
Going to GZ again for the Canton fair phase one. I have a mini trip for my clients down CP on Oct 18th Sunday for 1 or 2 nights. (Show is between 15 to 19) If anyone wants to tag along send me a pm. Since the fair will push for a LE crackdown, better to get out of the city.

Mrolson
07-19-09, 14:44
Hey,

I would like to ask something. I have been living in Guangzhou for a few years now. I have been doing some mongering the last year or so and had sex with maybe 20+ working girls. I speak the language very well and I am able to haggle for cheap prices (hardly ever pay more than 150RMB for sex).

Back to my question. Where do you guys find girls that shave? All the girls I've been with, not one of them was shaved, but when I look in the photo thread, it seems to be allot of shaved girls.

Where do you find them? It doesn't seem to be any of them in the massage parlors and "hair saloons", which are the places I visit most frequently.

Thanks!

Criss Thor
07-22-09, 08:10
Hi,

I visit GZ twice a year, but i see that you have great experience about GZ suanas and other good places. Maybe someone could recommend me some good places and not overpriced. Some names or adresses of good saunas and "hair salons".

Thanks in advance.

Criss Thor
07-23-09, 08:51
Ok, friends! I spent 2 last nights reading that thread from beginning to that page. I'm much smarter now, please forgive me my stupid question below. Now I know more, and if I'd like to get more informations I will send it by PM.

Anyway, I read a lot about guests who only asks for some addeses and never after post any report. I'm not completelly newbie in Guangzhou thread, I was there few times in great company of some fellows. But my experiences was only girls from TANG (usually very good) and one from mamasan near the hotel (absolutelly disaster) and one BBS, which also was bad experience.

I got 2 numbers to girls I met in tang, one is IRMA (very funny and enthusiastic) and second one is Julie (girl from Sichuan). I remember both them very good and friendly even if my mandarin is very, very poor (I still work on it). If someone is interested numbers are avalaible by PM. My english is also not perfect, but soon I will try to give you some reports about them, not very old, because it was this year, end of March.

Generally, as you can see, my experiences aren't very rich, so I'm interested about some new, specially KTV's and saunas (we always took good but just normal massages without any extras). Maybe problem was that our communication skills was not enough to ask.

Another information is that we always choose rather cheaper hotels (most 3*) which made us able to spend more money for mongering and always never any problems with girls in the hotel 24h.

I forgot, the prices of these girls was just standard: about 400 rmb for 2-3 hours. We mostly live in hotels near east Railway station and Citic Plaza.

My last observation: I studied different threads here and unfortunatelly discovered that Guangzhou is not the best location for mongering, right?

Please forgive me once more my "freshness", I promise that I will try to be here regularly and I'll post every report I had.

OldAsiaHand
07-24-09, 08:07
ok, friends! i spent 2 last nights reading that thread from beginning to that page. i'm much smarter now, please forgive me my stupid question below. now i know more, and if i'd like to get more informations i will send it by pm.

anyway, i read a lot about guests who only asks for some addeses and never after post any report. i'm not completelly newbie in guangzhou thread, i was there few times in great company of some fellows. but my experiences was only girls from tang (usually very good) and one from mamasan near the hotel (absolutelly disaster) and one bbs, which also was bad experience.

i got 2 numbers to girls i met in tang, one is irma (very funny and enthusiastic) and second one is julie (girl from sichuan). i remember both them very good and friendly even if my mandarin is very, very poor (i still work on it). if someone is interested numbers are avalaible by pm. my english is also not perfect, but soon i will try to give you some reports about them, not very old, because it was this year, end of march.

generally, as you can see, my experiences aren't very rich, so i'm interested about some new, specially ktv's and saunas (we always took good but just normal massages without any extras). maybe problem was that our communication skills was not enough to ask.

another information is that we always choose rather cheaper hotels (most 3*) which made us able to spend more money for mongering and always never any problems with girls in the hotel 24h.

i forgot, the prices of these girls was just standard: about 400 rmb for 2-3 hours. we mostly live in hotels near east railway station and citic plaza.

my last observation: i studied different threads here and unfortunatelly discovered that guangzhou is not the best location for mongering, right?

please forgive me once more my "freshness", i promise that i will try to be here regularly and i'll post every report i had.

criss thor,

your discovery is correct. guangzhou is not the best mongering location by far. if you have the time, i suggest you get on the train to cp. it is only a 45 minute ride and offers everything you can imagine with cheaper prices and more of it.

guangzhou:

ktv is expensive and hit or miss so i rarely do this in gz. many girls will not go out for whatever reason. check first before they sit for long. st starts at 1k and up compared with 500 rmb st, 800 rmb lt in cp.

bbs is usually "slam, bam, thank you ma'am" service. prices are from 130-150 rmb for fs on premises. there are less fs bbs in town now and they are rep001tered all over the place. i was just up the hill (past paddy fields) behind the garden hotel last week and all the hj places are closed too.

sw are near the major hotels e.g. the garden hotel but le troll the area frequently to run them off. a few minutes later, they are back. prices start at 200 rmb for st depending on the season and your negotiation skills. many will start negotiations at 800 rmb.


saunas range from completely legit to fs and everything in between. for example, some girls will give you a bbbj even though it is supposed to be hj finish only. the sauna in the metro building on tianhe bei lu is an example. generally, the places with the better hardware are more legit and those a little rundown offer more services. the sauna at the victory hotel (posted often) is generally a good option for hassle free fs at a fixed price. there are more fs saunas on the outskirts of town e.g panyu.

i don't often go into the clubs like tang so i have little experience. 400-500 rmb st seems to be the going rate for the chinese girls. the imported girls when available ask more.

just my pov.

oah

SE Asia Joe
07-24-09, 09:48
hey,

i would like to ask something. i have been living in guangzhou for a few years now. i have been doing some mongering the last year or so and had sex with maybe 20+ working girls. i speak the language very well and i am able to haggle for cheap prices (hardly ever pay more than 150rmb for sex).

back to my question. where do you guys find girls that shave? all the girls i've been with, not one of them was shaved, but when i look in the photo thread, it seems to be allot of shaved girls.

where do you find them? it doesn't seem to be any of them in the massage parlors and "hair saloons", which are the places i visit most frequently.

thanks!
dear master olson:

if i remember correctly, you're the one who in the past got a bit uppity when i gave you an unsolicited - and i now know to be inappropriate/m.y.o.b. - suggestion that you should not be partaking of the mongering scene in view of your age and stage in life. that you should instead just concentrate on continuing to doing your various freebie student peers.

well, here i go again!!

if you're interested in shaved pussies.... in southern china... you really should concentrate on pursuing your freebie student/peers as i would suggest that a great majority of w.g.'s here will definitely not shave their pussy hair off; at least not those that i - and i would think, you - would even consider doing.

you have to understand that the wg's knows that practically all their clients would run if they saw that they had a shaved pussy. most chinese/asian mongers - whether local or from other countries think that a shaved pussy indicates that the gal is so undesireable that she needs to resort to servicing furreners to get any business at all - that she's so butt ugly that she cain't get chinese punters. also, many chinese consider doing white tigers - whether shaved or natural - to be highly unlucky - and that they will have 7 years of really horrible luck if they ever even look at one!!

so this leaves you with not much choice as far as shaved pussy wg's is concerned. you probably will have a better luck in shanghai - where there is a much greater influx of foreigners and where there are probably more of these wg's who would cater to these foreigners- with shaved pussy; but do expect to pay shanghai prices.... for foreigners!!

the other choice is, like i originally suggested - go after a regular run-of-the-mill gal, woo her and convince her to shave. your own private white tiger.

and oh, perhaps ask bnlee, our resident "shaving pervert" on isg for some other pointers.

seaj

ps. one more choice - ask each and every momma you're doing biz with to recommend a natural "white tiger" - these are few and far in between... but they do exist and when you get one - you really are going to be in paradise!!

pps. you sure you're looking at the china photo gallery? how come i don't see that many shaved pussy on there??

OldAsiaHand
07-24-09, 10:05
I arrived last night on an Air Asia flight and they were no longer boarding the plan to check temperatures before allowing the passengers to deplane. That said, they were still checking health declaration forms very carefully.

OAH

Criss Thor
07-24-09, 13:53
Thanks a lot for OAH for his advices and details. My problem is, that I didn't discovered this great forum earlier before my journeys to Guangzhou in the past. What a pity! That's why me and my friends should discovered all by ourselves. First visit was completelly disaster in mongering, because we didn't know nothing about it in that place. Second was much better, but if I can to say something to newbies which goeas only for canton fair it's that is not best moment for that activities because of prices and hotel problems. Better choice is to come few days before, and go to tang to scout. Tang without canton fair is not the same club as tang without CF! We came earlier and tang was our first addres, we spent fantastic night with hotel continuation (of course we paid 2x normal rate due to our ignorance), but when we came next evening when CF started we were in shock! Previous night we were almost "kings in club" where it was only a little number of people and foreigners, and next day, we couldn't even go inside because of the number of guests.

Anyway, we always go there for business, but we decided to visit Guangzhou for little fairs, and the problems ended.

For me personally, the greatest news is that CP is so close to Guangzhou, and we can mix our goals (mongering and business).

But even if Guangzhou isn't a greatest place for mongering in China, I don't know other, so anyway I miss it very much, here in Europe.

Bnlee2
07-25-09, 05:23
The other choice is, like I originally suggested - go after a regular run-of-the-mill gal, woo her and convince her to shave. Your own private White Tiger.

And oh, perhaps ask Bnlee, our resident "shaving pervert" on ISG for some other pointers.

SEAJSEAJ,

Just a correction. Due to your insistence. I have been on a shaving moratorium. I'm trying to kick the habit.

OldAsiaHand
07-26-09, 04:20
This crackdown is getting ridiculous. I was cruising for some action yesterday afternoon and could not find even one BBS or HJ place still open.

If any fellow mongers have a secrete place they want to share, please PM me with the details.

Thanks.

OAH

SE Asia Joe
07-26-09, 08:56
This crackdown is getting ridiculous. I was cruising for some action yesterday afternoon and could not find even one BBS or HJ place still open.

If any fellow mongers have a secrete place they want to share, please PM me with the details.

Thanks.

OAH
Who here want to bet a round of beers that things are so bad for OAH.... and that OAH is gonna be so desperate... that he's gonna make his way down to CP WITHIN the next 72 hours??

Ain't no other way OAH!!

SEAJ

Fast Eddie 48
07-26-09, 09:40
This crackdown is getting ridiculous. I was cruising for some action yesterday afternoon and could not find even one BBS or HJ place still open.

If any fellow mongers have a secrete place they want to share, please PM me with the details.

Thanks.

OAHOah,

You are the king of Panyu even you have problem finding actons, thing is that bad there just get on the train to shenzhen or CP, always action there all you can handle.

Fast Eddie 48

OldAsiaHand
07-27-09, 04:37
Oah,

You are the king of Panyu even you have problem finding actons, thing is that bad there just get on the train to shenzhen or CP, always action there all you can handle.

Fast Eddie 48

FE48,

I still have a few WG phone numbers I can rely on but I like variety and the joy of selection. A few mamas are still in business but this is a hassle. You need to rent a room and wait. They send 1-2 at a time and the wait in between drives me crazy. The SWs still come out after midnight but there are less and less of them lately and I am usually asleep by that time.

I am on my way to CP.

OAH

Member #4144
07-29-09, 02:15
I am new to this board and I am eternally grateful for all the info people have contributed. I will write my report when I get to Guangzhou again in Sept.

In the meantime, I wonder if anyone had experience with both CP and Zuhai?
In my previous trips to GZ, I usually take a bus down to ZH after work and return the next morning. The bus ride to ZH is much longer then the train ride to CP, but I figure the quality down at ZH ktv would be far better then those in CP. Maybe I am totally wrong on this and I should have just head straight to CP, but I usually stay at 5star hotels (company will pay) and I can find only one such in CP and I also keep reading about safety issues, while ZH is totally safe, to me at least.

I would say the ktv girls I usually find in ZH are 8,9 and the 2/8/10 for most ktv is also quite reasonable.

SE Asia Joe
07-29-09, 10:36
I am new to this board and I am eternally grateful for all the info people have contributed. I will write my report when I get to Guangzhou again in Sept.

In the meantime, I wonder if anyone had experience with both CP and Zuhai?
In my previous trips to GZ, I usually take a bus down to ZH after work and return the next morning. The bus ride to ZH is much longer then the train ride to CP, but I figure the quality down at ZH ktv would be far better then those in CP. Maybe I am totally wrong on this and I should have just head straight to CP, but I usually stay at 5star hotels (company will pay) and I can find only one such in CP and I also keep reading about safety issues, while ZH is totally safe, to me at least.

I would say the ktv girls I usually find in ZH are 8,9 and the 2/8/10 for most ktv is also quite reasonable.

Sorry - but YUP, you're totally wrong

Zuhai is for Saunas - Best price for reasonable quality. But only for Saunas!!

KTV's and BBS is definitely CP.
KTV - for very acceptable quality is regualrly 2-5-8 and thye've got such a variety - from the 1,200 gals flower street Mayflower/JiaYi to the more intimate venues with very high Quality and higher priced gals.

Hotels in CP ARE very cheap, even for the 4-5 star Hui Hua and the Miraton - but real value for the money. If you really insist on 5 star, then you can stay 15 minutes out at the Crown Prince or the Good view Garden - with their very high fallutin KTV and sauna.

BBS's - much better quality and variety than Zhuahi and easier to get around in.

Safety - OK, you're probably right on this - but not by much as Zhuahi DOES have its very bad underbelly also, especially from the guys who needs to lay low from Macau. Anywhere in China, one does need to keep his wits about.

I'd suggest that you should enlist the help of some of the CP vweterans to take you around to show you the ropes and the real action in CP

SEAJ

Member #4144
07-30-09, 15:51
Sorry - but YUP, you're totally wrong

Zuhai is for Saunas - Best price for reasonable quality. But only for Saunas!!

KTV's and BBS is definitely CP.
KTV - for very acceptable quality is regualrly 2-5-8 and thye've got such a variety - from the 1,200 gals flower street Mayflower/JiaYi to the more intimate venues with very high Quality and higher priced gals.

Hotels in CP ARE very cheap, even for the 4-5 star Hui Hua and the Miraton - but real value for the money. If you really insist on 5 star, then you can stay 15 minutes out at the Crown Prince or the Good view Garden - with their very high fallutin KTV and sauna.

BBS's - much better quality and variety than Zhuahi and easier to get around in.

Safety - OK, you're probably right on this - but not by much as Zhuahi DOES have its very bad underbelly also, especially from the guys who needs to lay low from Macau. Anywhere in China, one does need to keep his wits about.

I'd suggest that you should enlist the help of some of the CP vweterans to take you around to show you the ropes and the real action in CP

SEAJThanks for the reply!

I was under the impression that CP mostly have factories girls but ZH has many Macau girls taking breaks in ZH. I have looked up photos of CP girls on Hongkong and Taiwan websites and they are usually not to the quality I found in ZH KTV.

I only go KTV, by the way, so I have no idea about BBS/Sauna, as I enjoy the singing part very much.

About hotels, I can see dozens of 4-5 star hotels on elong, ctrip etc in ZH, but CP hotels are not listed on such mainstream travel sites. So do I just book them from hotel websites? I would much prefer have my room booked before heading down there.

Thanks again for the helpful reply and I will definitely go check out CP when I come to China again in Sept.

OldAsiaHand
07-31-09, 13:58
I did a drive by on the "River Road" around 10pm and found a gem of a SW for an excellent BBBJCIMWS. She was only 23 yo which is young for the "River Road". I took her digits for future use.

OAH

Member #4144
07-31-09, 16:57
I did a drive by on the "River Road" around 10pm and found a gem of a SW for an excellent BBBJCIMWS. She was only 23 yo which is young for the "River Road". I took her digits for future use.

OAHGood for you!

Is this on the north side of the rider, near the square (HaiZhu Square)? I found GZ SW is totally a hit or miss, and indeed on rare occations someone can get lucky.

OldAsiaHand
08-01-09, 04:06
Good for you!

Is this on the north side of the rider, near the square (HaiZhu Square)? I found GZ SW is totally a hit or miss, and indeed on rare occations someone can get lucky.No, this is an area in Panyu where the low-end SWs hang out. They are normally "over the hill" and unable to work in the better venues. Most are in the 3-4 range and some are downright scary to look at. Just one step above the hutong girls for 30 RMB. FS can be had as low as 60RMB without BJ. They normally want 80-100 RMB for BBBJCIM. I have not seen anything decent in the area for some time, but I got lucky the other night. This area is not for the faint hearted. These girls have no scruples. I've caught them with their hands in my pockets whilst giving me head before. The one time I elected for FS, I was taken to a boarding house with rooms lined up and one shared bath. When the girl insisted I leave my clothes in the room during the shower, I bolted. It was an obvious set-up. You really need a car to monger here but I suppose you could hop in a taxi and cruise through, as well.

OAH

Nelta
08-01-09, 10:38
Hi guys!

I have written a post asking some questions about Guangzhou before, and got some great replies, and I'm writting again because I need to ask some of the veterans for advices, due to the crackdowns I have been hearing about.

First of all, I will be in Guangzhou in about 13days, and I'm a total newbie, I have never had action with anykind of WGs, so I would like to ask if there was any place to go in Guangzhou you veterans could recommand me to go, I have been trying the find out what CP stand for without luck, so if it's possible, please write the whole name of the place or adress.

Regards,

Nelta

Ps. I'm open for anything, from SW to Sauna or Hotel, but i prefore sauna with either FS or just a HS/BS

Member #4144
08-01-09, 19:47
I have written a post asking some questions about Guangzhou before, and got some great replies, and I'm writting again because I need to ask some of the veterans for advices, due to the crackdowns I have been hearing about.

First of all, I will be in Guangzhou in about 13days, and I'm a total newbie, I have never had action with anykind of WGs, so I would like to ask if there was any place to go in Guangzhou you veterans could recommand me to go, I have been trying the find out what CP stand for without luck, so if it's possible, please write the whole name of the place or adress.I am certainly not a veteran, but I do come to GZ very often and had been to Sauna and picked up SW, and even been to one ktv in GZ. After a while, I decided better just take a bus and head down to Zhu Hai, and return the next morning. SEAJ has been telling me in the last few posts that CP would be a much better choice. CP = ChangPing in DongGuan. I have never done this be presumably you can hop on a train from the East Railway Train Station and get down to CP in 45 min. ZH is far but the buses run every 15 min and takes about 2:30 to get there.

As for GZ, really not much to recommend, there are plenty of Sauna that will do HS, one that I have been to is inside the President hotel. They don't have FS but you could negociate with the girl to come to your hotel room after work, but the FS part might be just so so, no comparison to the CP,DG,ZH experiences.

If I do need to find a WG in GZ, I usually just go to Tang club or the Gypsy King, these two places you can just go everynight to have some drinks and once in a while you will get lucky. Mot of the time, you will only find the same SW whole normally just hang around 6th Ave near Garden Hotel. Not that they are all bad, occationally you can pick up a slim girl who also gives very good service, but they are usually older, maybe 28-40.

Well, I will be going down to GZ soon and I may try CP myself, but from what I read, safety might be a concern, as ZH is a much safer and more relaxed place, IMHO.

Heymikey
08-03-09, 17:21
This crackdown is getting ridiculous. I was cruising for some action yesterday afternoon and could not find even one BBS or HJ place still open.

If any fellow mongers have a secrete place they want to share, please PM me with the details.

Thanks.

OAHI did not visit in June as I normally do.

I hope all is back to normal by October.

Nelta
08-07-09, 18:34
I am certainly not a veteran, but I do come to GZ very often and had been to Sauna and picked up SW, and even been to one ktv in GZ. After a while, I decided better just take a bus and head down to Zhu Hai, and return the next morning. SEAJ has been telling me in the last few posts that CP would be a much better choice. CP = ChangPing in DongGuan. I have never done this be presumably you can hop on a train from the East Railway Train Station and get down to CP in 45 min. ZH is far but the buses run every 15 min and takes about 2:30 to get there.

As for GZ, really not much to recommend, there are plenty of Sauna that will do HS, one that I have been to is inside the President hotel. They don't have FS but you could negociate with the girl to come to your hotel room after work, but the FS part might be just so so, no comparison to the CP,DG,ZH experiences.

If I do need to find a WG in GZ, I usually just go to Tang club or the Gypsy King, these two places you can just go everynight to have some drinks and once in a while you will get lucky. Mot of the time, you will only find the same SW whole normally just hang around 6th Ave near Garden Hotel. Not that they are all bad, occationally you can pick up a slim girl who also gives very good service, but they are usually older, maybe 28-40.

Well, I will be going down to GZ soon and I may try CP myself, but from what I read, safety might be a concern, as ZH is a much safer and more relaxed place, IMHO.Thanks Alot, I got one more stupid question though, this might seem to be very green for you guys, but the the girls, what is the chance that they have diseases, such as AIDS?

SE Asia Joe
08-08-09, 05:57
. SEAJ has been telling me in the last few posts that CP would be a much better choice. CP = ChangPing in DongGuan. I have never done this be presumably you can hop on a train from the East Railway Train Station and get down to CP in 45 min. ZH is far but the buses run every 15 min and takes about 2:30 to get there.........
Well, I will be going down to GZ soon and I may try CP myself, but from what I read, safety might be a concern, as ZH is a much safer and more relaxed place, IMHO.
There is a train just about every 15 minutes GZ-CP and it's only RMB 50 or so (forgot) and like you said, it takes less than an hour from GZ.
As far as safety is concerned, it is a consideration just about anywhere in China - but its just because of the sheer volume of mongers coming to CP = ergo the sheer numbers of CP "incidence - that makes it seems as if CP is really all that bad.
Zhuhai is also quite bad - but the scenic and holiday like atmosphere that makes it seem as if Zhuhai is all safe and tranquil

SEAJ

SE Asia Joe
08-08-09, 10:10
Thanks Alot, I got one more stupid question though, this might seem to be very green for you guys, but the the girls, what is the chance that they have diseases, such as AIDS?
Before they all start jumping on you....

P4P ladies are suspect wherever they come from - whether China, Chile or Cincinnati! This being the case, you MUST cover up (errrr. ... that means use a condom) anytime you do it. OK?

And to answer your China specific question - yes, Sex diseases ARE a problem in China - especially since there are a lot of gals who may be infected and NOT know about it as they are asymptomatic. Then there are the AIDS villages where the people are so poor that they resort to selling their blood as a means of survival.... and of course contact AIDS.

Then there is the China specific problem of Hepatitis which is rampant here - and you can easily contact hepatitis thru sexual contact. So yes, be careful..... but this is not only in China but anywhere. OK??

SEAJ

Weelock
08-11-09, 18:04
Need some help with finding a sauna or a message place around the western part of Guangzhou. I speak a little Cantonese and a few words of Mandarin. It is best to PM with the information because of the crack down for Oct. Please include the phone number of the place.

Thanks.....

Black Cube
08-13-09, 08:55
Need some help with finding a sauna or a message place around the western part of Guangzhou. I speak a little Cantonese and a few words of Mandarin. It is best to PM with the information because of the crack down for Oct. Please include the phone number of the place.

Thanks.....Saunas are all around Guangzhou, to my info there is a good one in liwan road no 97. There is an ICBC bank there and right next to it there is a small street, walk along that street around 200m until you reach the end, right in front of you will be a cool sauna it's english name is winalite gulf!.

Enjoy!

Black Cube
08-13-09, 09:12
I did not visit in June as I normally do.

I hope all is back to normal by October.Lol, it's getting even worse in Oct!

Tonys100
08-18-09, 19:18
Great info here!

I recently arrived in Guangzhou and checked out some of the recommended areas.

I was a bit disappointed walking around Garden Hotel area. I only came across a couple of girls and they were kind of scary. I also went into the Cave and it was full of hot girls, but they were all bar girls wanting you to buy them a drink. The Hill Bar was a miss too.

I heard about Tang but haven't been there yet. Any other bar/night club possibilities?

Chin Mann
08-20-09, 16:01
Great info here!

I recently arrived in Guangzhou and checked out some of the recommended areas.

I was a bit disappointed walking around Garden Hotel area. I only came across a couple of girls and they were kind of scary. I also went into the Cave and it was full of hot girls, but they were all bar girls wanting you to buy them a drink. The Hill Bar was a miss too.

I heard about Tang but haven't been there yet. Any other bar/night club possibilities?Try Gipsy bar, Cave, Tang or Cellar after 11.00 pm; you will get whatever you want. Also in Hill Bar and Elephant you can have a chance if you have time.

Member #4144
08-20-09, 19:15
I have read from some other forums that people have been able to pick up hot chicks from those bars in bar street in Guangzhou along the river.

I wonder if anyone knows more about that. There are generally two areas of of bars along the river, on the south or north side. I know there are plenty of SW on the northside, but they are mostly old and ugly. I have never seen WG on those bars on the north side, except I heard a lot of people finding hot girls inside baby face, but that is a similar situation as Tang club and gets really crowded.

So is it because I have never been to the south side?

FS

PrinceMV2
08-21-09, 15:26
Leave all other bars & go straight to Kama at Hungfu Lu.


Great info here!

I recently arrived in Guangzhou and checked out some of the recommended areas.

I was a bit disappointed walking around Garden Hotel area. I only came across a couple of girls and they were kind of scary. I also went into the Cave and it was full of hot girls, but they were all bar girls wanting you to buy them a drink. The Hill Bar was a miss too.

I heard about Tang but haven't been there yet. Any other bar/night club possibilities?

Member #4144
08-21-09, 18:46
Leave all other bars & go straight to Kama at Hungfu Lu.Good point. I heard all the GW from all over GZ will return to Kama after Tang, Cave, GypsyKing etc. Not sure if the best picks will still be there though, but if after midnight, definitely should check out Kama.

Black Cube
08-24-09, 10:53
Good point. I heard all the GW from all over GZ will return to Kama after Tang, Cave, GypsyKing etc. Not sure if the best picks will still be there though, but if after midnight, definitely should check out Kama.I have always had bad luck at Karma. Dunno why!

PrinceMV2
08-25-09, 14:15
May be you went there early. it heats up only after 1 am & remains hot till morning.

Cheers


I have always had bad luck at Karma. Dunno why!

Member #4144
08-26-09, 01:05
May be you went there early. it heats up only after 1 am & remains hot till morning.

CheersThat was what I heard, the girls gather there after other places.

So besides Karma, do you know any other good places? I have seen report mostly around that area of GZ but very little on the bars along the river.

Tang and Cave and Gypsy King are all totally hit or miss and extrememly rare to have any quality.

OldAsiaHand
08-26-09, 06:18
Have any Russian or South American girls been around lately? What bars are they working in nowadays? What kind of prices are they getting? Any current information? Thanks.

OAH

SE Asia Joe
08-27-09, 06:43
Have any Russian or South American girls been around lately? What bars are they working in nowadays? What kind of prices are they getting? Any current information? Thanks.

OAH
Good God OAH - your regular drill with the local gals of GZ, CP and SZ, your Freebie GF closer to home, your long distance and "serious" Thai Gal - and now you want Russkies and Chicas??

Get a hold of yourself man!! Too much. Too damn much!! You'll blow a gasket.

IMHO, in my VERY humble ones

SEAJ

Kindway88
08-29-09, 04:26
Are there any Spa in GZ that offers full service like Sacrosa or red rope in Shanghai?

Fast Eddie 48
08-30-09, 04:16
Are there any Spa in Guangzhou that offers full service like Sacrosa or red rope in Shanghai? Kindway88,

There are no red rope in Guangzhou as far as I know, There are a few in Zhu hai and a few in Dongguan but skill level is no where like in Shanghai, but with all the crack down going on all over China, this will not be around for long, do some search on the other forum for info.

Fast Eddie 48

OldAsiaHand
08-30-09, 07:23
Are there any Spa in GZ that offers full service like Sacrosa or red rope in Shanghai?

There are several FS saunas still operating in GZ but I have never encountered the red rope service in any of them yet. Pricing is from 438 RMB (238 +300 tip) at the low end to 868 (268 + 400-600 tips depending on quality level) at the high end.

Just my POV.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
08-30-09, 07:30
Good God OAH - your regular drill with the local gals of GZ, CP and SZ, your Freebie GF closer to home, your long distance and "serious" Thai Gal - and now you want Russkies and Chicas??

Get a hold of yourself man!! Too much. Too damn much!! You'll blow a gasket.

IMHO, in my VERY humble ones

SEAJ

SEAJ,

After returning from Europe (FKK in Germany and the Clubs in Spain) a couple of months ago, I am starting to miss white meat. Although available in Hong Kong, the prices are crazy, especially the Chicas.

Just my POV.

OAH

Orientalovers
08-30-09, 12:59
Try Gipsy bar, Cave, Tang or Cellar after 11.00 pm; you will get whatever you want. Also in Hill Bar and Elephant you can have a chance if you have time.

Although always have business trip in Guangzhou, only know the mandarin addresses. Hope someone can list out the detail addresses for above location, include Karma. Thanks in advance.

Kindway88
08-30-09, 14:14
There are several FS saunas still operating in GZ but I have never encountered the red rope service in any of them yet. Pricing is from 438 RMB (238 +300 tip) at the low end to 868 (268 + 400-600 tips depending on quality level) at the high end.

Just my POV.

OAHMind telling me where they are?

Thank you.

OldAsiaHand
08-31-09, 06:59
Mind telling me where they are?

Thank you.

Kindway88,

Most of the locations of the FS saunas have been posted on this thread. I suggest that you read some of the posts before you ask me to spoon feed you.

Just my POV.

OAH

Jamie5063
08-31-09, 18:25
Kindway88,

Most of the locations of the FS saunas have been posted on this thread.
OAH

I just spent a few days in GZ I had planed to take a freebe who got the red rag so left her behind. I did read some of the reports but most were on the west side and I found the ones near the 5 star hotels disappointing in the past. Also I had no action outside my hotel middle of no ware big mistake but the freebie was the planed entertainment.
The master is correct head to Dong gang. GZ is dead are you sure its in China? The one SW I got was so bad average score -5. I got a motor bike taxi to take me some ware it was a 40 rmb leg massage that was it. Not even me naked great but not what we or I wanted.
Be care full on the subways they go a long way fast and finish early I had a scary taxi ride for miles at a cost of 80Rmb. I also seen nothing walking around couple of signs I did see possible they were all locked up. As I use the buses normally in SZ so this way you get to see a lot of places, but in GZ I always take the subway so miss this great mongering tool. Next time I will line up some freebes on MSM. or stay in Dong gang. And too proud to ask the forum. As a footnote saw a place as the train pulled out.

Member #4144
08-31-09, 19:54
Next time I will line up some freebes on MSM. or stay in Dong gang. And too proud to ask the forum. As a footnote saw a place as the train pulled out.Please do continue to use the forum. I am a GZ regular and I don't know what can be found in GZ as only the few bars and a few saunas (in the East) only have HJ at best. I will try to explore on my upcoming trip next week.

I do know I would reply with whatever I know if I can help, as I have also been through this business of spending hours to try to read every post but ended up not finding what is really needed; and would be best if people can just ask on this board, as long as they will make the effort in helping others later on.

FS

Nz Kaki
09-01-09, 07:41
Hey guys thanks for all the fr and info they're really helpful. Just wondering can anybody shares where Karma is or the Chinese name of the clubs? I'm going at November and want to do some research first.

Is the pub scene there like in thai? All fls there or just normal girls you need to pick up and end up as ons?

Thanks in advance

Blue Phone
09-03-09, 05:21
Hi Guys,

Will be in GZ for 2 nites in September. I'm not the KTV kind. I would like to bring a WL, preferbably a SW gal to my hotel. Is there any such streets in GZ. Will probably be staying in a hotel at Huangshi Dong Lu. Is there a gal friendly hotel there that allow the gals in after say 11pm?

Thanks

Mikey Mad
09-03-09, 07:51
Hi all.

Oh yes I did RTFF and twice.

But I still got some questions:

1. As I understand from the forum concerning being GF and having FS saunas the most siutable hotels to stay are Victory Hotel and Ka Ying Hotel (Guess now it's called Sherwood Int.) So can anyone give me an advice about these two hotels concerning their distances to Pazhou Center? And any other suggestions about hotels?

2. There are many clubs mentioned here: Tang, Cave, Gypsy King, Kama (or Karma? ), Celler, Hill. Are these all open and is there anything new to the scene? (Besides South American, Russian, and Chinese ladies)

3. Do you have any other places to suggest (saunas, BBS, KTV). Ok I know alot of names are being mentioned here but since I can't get to them all I would like to try the most worthy ones (FS is inevitable).

4. If you got any questions about the Ukranian, Russian and Turkish Markets feels free to ask please.

Thnx to all in advance

Mikey

Jamie5063
09-03-09, 15:23
Hi Guys,

Will be in GZ for 2 nites in September. I'm not the KTV kind. I would like to bring a WL, preferbably a SW gal to my hotel. Is there any such streets in GZ. Will probably be staying in a hotel at Huangshi Dong Lu. Is there a gal friendly hotel there that allow the gals in after say 11pm?

Thanks
Huanshi Dong Lu is home to Gipsy King Bar and the Cave bar which seems to border on the edge of p4p if your mum lets you out late. Reading the forum it seems to be a lucky place. I should have tried it last week but my brain was dead and I did not read the forum enough at least 10 times. its all there when you return haha.

Member #4144
09-04-09, 01:39
2. There are many clubs mentioned here: Tang, Cave, Gypsy King, Kama (or Karma? ), Celler, Hill. Are these all open and is there anything new to the scene? (Besides South American, Russian, and Chinese ladies)Just got into GZ yesterday so went out last night (Thur) as my first round this trip.

Looks like you need to add Paddy Field (Tian Yuan 田园吧) to the list of clubs. I first went there since I am a salsa dancer so before midnight, that place is normal with just the typical GZ white collar crowd, and I had a good time picking a few girls to dance salsa. But after midnight, most of the ladies are replaced with WG, mostly non-Chinese. Since the place is so crowded I decided to head to Tang to check it out, and turned out Tang is full of WG and very few guys. Very strange but suited me just fine.

Member #4144
09-04-09, 01:51
Hi Guys,

Will be in GZ for 2 nites in September. I'm not the KTV kind. I would like to bring a WL, preferbably a SW gal to my hotel. Is there any such streets in GZ. Will probably be staying in a hotel at Huangshi Dong Lu. Is there a gal friendly hotel there that allow the gals in after say 11pm?

ThanksI do not have up to date info on this but judging from my past experience and all the crack down happening around GZ, I would say non of the hotels in that area can bring WG back after 11pm. I found the Hotel Canton and the President Hotel are the best bets. I tried many hotels in GZ and those two I never have trouble whatever the hours and the rates are quite good but might be difficult to get a room, probably due to precisely the reason you were asking. Both hotels have nice rooms and both walking distance to subway.

FS

PrinceMV2
09-04-09, 15:02
Hi,

As far as I know paddle field is very crowded. Only when there is any live soccer match is being shown on big screens. Other wise, mostly I found it not too crowded.


Just got into GZ yesterday so went out last night (Thur) as my first round this trip.

Looks like you need to add Paddy Field (Tian Yuan 田园吧) to the list of clubs. I first went there since I am a salsa dancer so before midnight, that place is normal with just the typical GZ white collar crowd, and I had a good time picking a few girls to dance salsa. But after midnight, most of the ladies are replaced with WG, mostly non-Chinese. Since the place is so crowded I decided to head to Tang to check it out, and turned out Tang is full of WG and very few guys. Very strange but suited me just fine.

Mont Blanc
09-07-09, 04:44
Heading to Guangzhou soon.

Are there any genuine escort agencies that can be contacted via a website?

Looking for Russian, South American ladies.

Thanks for replying.

Member #4144
09-07-09, 10:16
Heading to Guangzhou soon.

Are there any genuine escort agencies that can be contacted via a website?

Looking for Russian, South American ladies.

Thanks for replying.

Everything related to finding a WG must be discreet in China and if there is such a site, and made public, the authority will the the first to use it.

Just head to Tang, Paddy Field, Karma, and you have your easy pick, before the Canton Fair crowd come into down.

Fillmore

Member #4144
09-08-09, 06:26
I was busy in Guangzhou all day with work and at 10pm I still have a document that I must read but I was not able to concentrate. Here I am in South China reading some miserable paper when everyone else was having fun. Then I thought maybe I can read that on the train? I called BSD and asked if it was too late to come to Dong Guang Chang Ping (cp) and he said I just needed to get the east station before 10:40 to catch the last train. I said, ok, please book me a Clipper steam room and I rushed back to my apartment in TianHe to pick up a few things and got a taxi that dropped me off at the station at 10:35. The train from Guangzhou to Shenzhen was really comfortable and the 40 min ride to cp was just what I needed to get myself focus on reading that damn thing.

Checked into my room at 11:40, asked BSD is he can find me a small ktv room (at such hour in such a short notice!!!) and he worked his magic and found me a room at PP with 400 minimum. To make a long story short, I had two pretty girls singing love songs with me before the clock struck 12. Even though the DJs are the leftovers from all night’s picking, I was able to find good quality rejects(sitting girls) from other rooms. The down side was that the prettier of the two was on her period, (thus the reason for becoming a reject, I guess) but that suited me fine as I mainly just wanted to be THE Singer!! Another lucky turn of event was that the DJ had a DJ friend who was not working that night had come in to hang out with her, and she was much better looking, and apparently I will be enjoying her presense in the room for free.

Since I wanted to try the HK-Taiwanese routine of ktv drinking followed by sauna, I let both girls go at 2:15am and got the SMS from BSD that a very pretty 56* will be waiting for me at Clipper. While waiting for my bill, the two DJ chatted with me and the prettier one asked where I was staying... wow, what should I do!!! Well, since my mind was set for trying out DG sauna and 568 was waiting for me, I took down the DJ’s number for the future and went back to Clipper. To make a long story short, BSD was absolutely right, 56* had a stunning body and great service….. Next morning I got up at 7 and back to GZ office at 8:45.

Accounting Details:
KTV room with drinks and some snacks, 450
DJ 200
Sitting girls 200x2 = 400
Total damage 1050 for doing ktv solo without taking the girl back to hotel

I will skip the details on the sauna as many others have much more to say about this.


Fillmore

BruceTea
09-08-09, 16:20
Total damage 1050 for doing ktv solo without taking the girl back to hotel



You're nuts Fillmore St. Seems like night or fatigue does not affect your partying spirits. LOL

I've seen the girls you took to sit with you, but end up not taking back. And I gotta say, I don't know how you can do it. You also sing well, you're good with the girls, and you drink moderately. The girls most likely are left with a puzzled expression when you let them go...

Why didn't you party at a KTV in GZ? How are the KTV girls there?

And what's this about the HK-TWese routine of KTV drinking then SN? haha.

Fast Eddie 48
09-08-09, 17:03
You're nuts Fillmore St. Seems like night or fatigue does not affect your partying spirits. LOL

I've seen the girls you took to sit with you, but end up not taking back. And I gotta say, I don't know how you can do it. You also sing well, you're good with the girls, and you drink moderately. The girls most likely are left with a puzzled expression when you let them go...

Why didn't you party at a KTV in GZ? How are the KTV girls there?

And what's this about the HK-TWese routine of KTV drinking then SN? haha.Bruce,

I think Fillmore just want to the KTV experience in CP, it is more fun with a large group but he is getting all the attention from 2 girls, but I think he should just go to the sauna instead.

Fast Eddie 48

Clickerman
09-08-09, 19:27
Everything related to finding a WG must be discreet in China and if there is such a site, and made public, the authority will the the first to use it.

Just head to Tang, Paddy Field, Karma, and you have your easy pick, before the Canton Fair crowd come into down.

FillmoreCraigslist has a lot of girls listed in the "erotic services" section for guangzhou. I don't think the authorities check there. Or maybe China blocks this web site.

Anyone know?

OldAsiaHand
09-09-09, 02:01
Hi all.

Oh yes I did RTFF and twice.

But I still got some questions:

1. As I understand from the forum concerning being GF and having FS saunas the most siutable hotels to stay are Victory Hotel and Ka Ying Hotel (Guess now it's called Sherwood Int.) So can anyone give me an advice about these two hotels concerning their distances to Pazhou Center? And any other suggestions about hotels?

2. There are many clubs mentioned here: Tang, Cave, Gypsy King, Kama (or Karma? ), Celler, Hill. Are these all open and is there anything new to the scene? (Besides South American, Russian, and Chinese ladies)

3. Do you have any other places to suggest (saunas, BBS, KTV). Ok I know alot of names are being mentioned here but since I can't get to them all I would like to try the most worthy ones (FS is inevitable).

4. If you got any questions about the Ukranian, Russian and Turkish Markets feels free to ask please.

Thnx to all in advance

Mikey

Mikey Mad,

I am not familiar with Ka Ying Hotel, but the Victory Hotel is on Shamian Island and not convenient to Pazhou. It is not necessary to stay in a hotel with the sauna. Other saunas are not located in hotels. Pazhou is on the outskirts of town but the subway access is very good. Suggest you stay near a subway station somewhere near the Garden Hotel. This will put you within walking distance to SWs and the clubs. I've not been in the clubs recently. Tang is probably your best bet. The Elephant Bar across the street from the Garden Hotel is an option to test your freebie pick-up skills.

The BBS scene is pretty dead at the moment. KTV is expensive in GZ and not advisable if you are traveling alone. There is a FS Sauna on Yingbin Road in Panyu that is pretty close to Pazhou. I posted about it earlier. I cannot remember the name but it is in a 3 star hotel about 1 km past the Chimelong Hotel on the right side of the road. There is a billboard with a hotel room advertised right out front. You can't miss it. Another couple of options in town are the sauna in the Baiyun Hotel and a sauna next to the Mayor's Building in TianHe. I still reckon the Victory is the best since it is very foreigner friendly.

Just my POV.

OAH

Member #4144
09-09-09, 07:06
I've seen the girls you took to sit with you, but end up not taking back.

Wow, I must be trying so hard to make up for lost time that I didn’t even noticed that you came as well, so sorry about that.



Why didn't you party at a KTV in GZ? How are the KTV girls there?


I have only been to a 2nd tier ktv in GZ and the girls were 5/10/15. A typical small room on any ktv with girls would typically have 1000-1500 minimum, but the worst part was the mandatory tipping for everyone who entered the room, including the cleaning lady. The 5/10/15 is also misleading as only the 5 applies since GZ ktv girls never go out, especially on a first “date”. It is pretty much they are all waiting for the guy who comes back for her again and again and who will agree to buy her an apartment, before she would go out.



And what's this about the HK-TWese routine of KTV drinking then SN? haha.

Well, now I know it dose not work for me, like you said, I should have just taken that sitting girl back to the hotel, as going through too many girls on a single night is really a bit too much for me to handle, especially I would like to consider myself Mr. Lover.

FairTourist
09-10-09, 15:22
I know that karma is at hung fu lu, but can you explain where this is? Do somebody have google map?

I'm in 4 weeks in the Garden Hotel, so perhaps it is in the area?

Thanks

Jdbkk555
09-10-09, 16:28
Sure enough, just as a report from a couple of years back said. SW's will start to show up outside the Marriott at about 9 in the evening. They are not shy about selling their services. Most are dogs and aggressive at that. I finally found one, after shooing away 5 or 6 that would not qualify for an Alpo can. She seemed nice enough and the price was sure right. 200.

About a half hour into the session, I started getting bored with this lady and asked if she had a friend that wanted to join us. A quick phone call away and there she was. This one looked like a Russian-Chinese mix. Taller and with a more Caucasian ass to her.

We proceeded into a 3 way hand job. And as things started to stiffen appropriately, I motioned and a condom went on. She was nice. Though the fake sounds are a bit of a turn off for me.

I'll add this one to the been there, done that category and not consider that again unless I'm here for a long haul sometime. There's got to be some better caliber talent about.

The down side. These are sure stubborn bitches. They will nag you on the selection process until you relent. The part that pisses me off is trying to get them out of the room at the end of service. Constant negotiations to increase the price. Asking to begging, offering more services. I recommend to have just the right money available someone where close so you can whip it out at the right time and claim that's all you've got. Show them a wallet and they'll be after you for an hour.

I thought about asking for a photo. But decided that would only prolong the price haggle more than I was willing to bare.

Also. www.bypassproxy. Us works nicely to get access to ISG while in China. You can't search and stuff. But rest works fine.

Member #4144
09-11-09, 01:11
I know that karma is at hung fu lu, but can you explain where this is? Do somebody have google map?

I'm in 4 weeks in the Garden Hotel, so perhaps it is in the area?

Thanks

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E6%81%92%E7%A6%8F%E8%B7%AF+%E5%B9%BF%E5%B7%9E&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=64.537053,134.912109&ie=UTF8&ll=23.143912,113.287824&spn=0.002336,0.004117&z=19

It is shown as Neihuan Rd on the map as it runs on top of Heng Fu Lu. Your best bet to find that place is to start from Garden hotel and head toward Taojin North Rd, as Karma is a short right turn into HengFu Lu emerging from TaoJin North Rd.

Or give this to the taxi driver : 金色年华 (JinSeNianHua)

Also, Tang is much closer to Garden hotel and pretty much the same group girls would start off at Tang and gather at Karma later.

Fillmore

Sharka
09-12-09, 22:46
Is it better to go by bus or train from GZ to CP?

Also, I notice there are 2 train stations in GZ, so which one is the best to use if going by train, the one in the North/West or the one in the East?

Member #4144
09-13-09, 01:39
Is it better to go by bus or train from GZ to CP?

Also, I notice there are 2 train stations in GZ, so which one is the best to use if going by train, the one in the North/West or the one in the East?

East Train station, definitely by train, unless you have missed the last train at 10:45pm, otherwise it runs every 15 min, so it is more like a subway train.

OldAsiaHand
09-13-09, 09:49
I have only been to a 2nd tier ktv in GZ and the girls were 5/10/15. A typical small room on any ktv with girls would typically have 1000-1500 minimum, but the worst part was the mandatory tipping for everyone who entered the room, including the cleaning lady. The 5/10/15 is also misleading as only the 5 applies since GZ ktv girls never go out, especially on a first “date”. It is pretty much they are all waiting for the guy who comes back for her again and again and who will agree to buy her an apartment, before she would go out.

This is a very common practice in GZ KTV where many of the girls will not go out with customers. It may be a laowai fear thing, but I have seen many refuse to go with locals and overseas Chinese too.

It is imperative that you ask the mamasan or the girl before she sits down with you or at least before the test period expires if you want to take her out.

Just my POV.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
09-13-09, 09:51
Sure enough, just as a report from a couple of years back said. SW's will start to show up outside the Marriott at about 9 in the evening. They are not shy about selling their services. Most are dogs and aggressive at that. I finally found one, after shooing away 5 or 6 that would not qualify for an Alpo can. She seemed nice enough and the price was sure right. 200.

About a half hour into the session, I started getting bored with this lady and asked if she had a friend that wanted to join us. A quick phone call away and there she was. This one looked like a Russian-Chinese mix. Taller and with a more Caucasian ass to her.

We proceeded into a 3 way hand job. And as things started to stiffen appropriately, I motioned and a condom went on. She was nice. Though the fake sounds are a bit of a turn off for me.

I'll add this one to the been there, done that category and not consider that again unless I'm here for a long haul sometime. There's got to be some better caliber talent about.

The down side. These are sure stubborn bitches. They will nag you on the selection process until you relent. The part that pisses me off is trying to get them out of the room at the end of service. Constant negotiations to increase the price. Asking to begging, offering more services. I recommend to have just the right money available someone where close so you can whip it out at the right time and claim that's all you've got. Show them a wallet and they'll be after you for an hour.

I thought about asking for a photo. But decided that would only prolong the price haggle more than I was willing to bare.

Also. www.bypassproxy. Us works nicely to get access to ISG while in China. You can't search and stuff. But rest works fine.

If you walk down the alley at the side of the Marriott you will find some BBS with takeaway service for 130-150 RMB ST. I've seen some pretty good talent there in the past.

OAH

Member #4144
09-14-09, 02:18
Too late to go to CP last night so I decided to check out the usual places and found Gypsy King was closed due to renovation, Cave bar had few SW; Tang was still full of them but all old and fat. Head over to Karma and at 1am still barely anybody there, much less in terms of WG.

Fillmore

FairTourist
09-14-09, 14:05
Thank you fillmore.

Very nice! At Tang I already have been and it is very nice so i wanted to know how Karma is.

I will check it!


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E6%81%92%E7%A6%8F%E8%B7%AF+%E5%B9%BF%E5%B7%9E&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=64.537053,134.912109&ie=UTF8&ll=23.143912,113.287824&spn=0.002336,0.004117&z=19

It is shown as Neihuan Rd on the map as it runs on top of Heng Fu Lu. Your best bet to find that place is to start from Garden hotel and head toward Taojin North Rd, as Karma is a short right turn into HengFu Lu emerging from TaoJin North Rd.

Or give this to the taxi driver : 金色年华 (JinSeNianHua)

Also, Tang is much closer to Garden hotel and pretty much the same group girls would start off at Tang and gather at Karma later.

Fillmore

Kosmos
09-15-09, 02:10
Fellow mongers

I will be in Guangzhou in early November. Will be spending a week-end there. What's the best KTV there? I want to have a take-out for the week-end? My Chinese friends will be taking care of me, so money is not a problem. I'm looking for tall girls, with large racks if possible. Ultimately, need GFE service. What's your advise?
Thanks

Kosmos

Member #4144
09-15-09, 02:22
Fellow mongers

I will be in Guangzhou in early November. Will be spending a week-end there. What's the best KTV there? I want to have a take-out for the week-end? My Chinese friends will be taking care of me, so money is not a problem. I'm looking for tall girls, with large racks if possible. Ultimately, need GFE service. What's your advise?
Thanks

Kosmos

If your Chinese friends are taking care of the bill, then they should know better? The most expensive ktv is in TianHeDongLu, sitting fee for a girl is 1000. No set fee for take out as most never go out.

Simplest solution is to arrange for one ktv trip to CP and get at least 2 girls to sit with you and get both phone numbers. Then ask one to come to spend GFE weekend with you in GZ. Contact BSD to make needed arrangment.

CP girls are much nicer and simpler and will treat you really well since you have the easy picking of them, while the GZ girls will have easy picking of desperate business travellers who only know Garden hotel and not much else.

Fillmore

Kosmos
09-15-09, 03:10
Simplest solution is to arrange for one ktv trip to CP and get at least 2 girls to sit with you and get both phone numbers. Then ask one to come to spend GFE weekend with you in GZ. Contact BSD to make needed arrangment.


Fillmore

What/where is CP and who is BSD?

SE Asia Joe
09-15-09, 05:09
What/where is CP and who is BSD?
CP is Chang Ping in Dongguan, Guangdong province and if you want to RTFF, go to the Dongguan thread.

Tons of info on that thread and BSD is Big Swingin Dave who've been doing a stellar job taking guys around, keeping them out of trouble/being overcharged, arranging KTV parties, saunas, hotels etc - you're pretty well guaranteed the BBBJ that you seemed to have missed out the last time you were in these parts if you hook up with BSD.

OK - now you gotta promise us that you'll post up your luscious pictures the same way you did the last time you were here. OK?

SEAJ.

PrinceMV2
09-15-09, 15:03
Hi,

Its not karma first of all. Its KAMA.

Cheers


I know that karma is at hung fu lu, but can you explain where this is? Do somebody have google map?

I'm in 4 weeks in the Garden Hotel, so perhaps it is in the area?

Thanks

Kosmos
09-17-09, 22:46
OK - now you gotta promise us that you'll post up your luscious pictures the same way you did the last time you were here. OK?

SEAJ.I promise tons of pictures in early November guys!

What about white pussies in Guangzhou? Are any Russians available in KTV's?

Kosmos

China35
09-18-09, 00:39
I promise tons of pictures in early November guys!
What about white pussies in Guangzhou? Are any Russians available in KTV's?

KosmosTang, plenty there, few on the surounding streets as well. Not cheap, expect quotes of 1000+

Not seen in KTV, other clubs / bars are a few

Skills vary, but most will do swollow, anal, dp.

Can't see the point of doing Russian when in China.

Member #4144
09-18-09, 21:31
On this trip, I came in from HK airport and made a stop over at CP, see my post

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=925009#post925009

On my return trip, I decided to take a different route, mainly because I don't want to risk missing my flight from HK airport. A bus/van ride from GZ, CP or SZ seemed risky; and flights from GZ to HK was expensive and not available everyday, or when they do have the flight, it would require getting up really early in the morning.

I then decided on the Zhuhai ferry route, which departs at 9:30 so I can sleep(have fun) till 8:30 in the morning. The key is to make sure the flight departs after 12:30 since there is a 3 hours requirement between Zhuhai ferry and HK flight. My Chicago flight was 12:45 which just worked out perfectly. There was also a RMB100 tax refund that HK government was paying anyone to take this route. When was the last time you were handed a 100rmb by just getting on a comfortable 40 min ferry ride?

Actually, the main reason to go down to Zhuhai was the girls. I will write a separate report later as it can get quite long.

Fillmore