PDA

View Full Version : East China - Shanghai



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 [11] 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58

Wah Stephen
09-03-10, 11:19
In Shanghai last Friday. Called my contacts in Sauna and they all said that be careful at least till after November. Squad checking fairly often and the insiders from the force alert the sauna owners to lay low.

Be careful, folks.

Tit Fest
09-03-10, 13:31
Great directions ez to find if you go through the Shin May Union Mall Entrance and straight out the back.

Unfortunatly I was greeted at the elevator with sorry we are currently clossed. Were a few Asian gentleman loungin who looked rather tired.

Me being caucasian have anything to do with my bad news?

Gao Xing
09-04-10, 17:11
RTFM and plan on trying them out. Could not find a clear directions or address with street name ohter than Nanyang Road.Manhattan

From Jing'an Temple Station (Line 2 & 7), use Exit 3. Walk east on Nanjing West Road. Cross Changde Road. Next light, turn left at Tongren Road. Pass Malone's on your left. Next intersection, turn right at Nanyang Road. Manhattan will be about midblock on your left.

Malone's

See directions for Manhattan's above. It is on Tongren Road, north of Nanjing West Road.

Judy's

See directions for Manhattan's above. Turn right at Tongren Road (instead of left for Malone's and Manhattan and cross Nanjing West Road. Judy's will be on your left.

Happy hunting!

Golly Woggle
09-04-10, 18:40
Just my luck. I've returned to Shanghai for 4 months. Just as a major crackdown begins? Damn. Any advice on what's still safe? I have one contact here, I'll hook up with her soon and find out what I can as well. There's one place I've been to a few times that doesn't seem to be reviewed much. I'll see if that one's still up and running.

But anyway. Thanks for the warnings. I'll definitely lie low for a while.

Pit Shang
09-04-10, 22:52
Just my luck. I've returned to Shanghai for 4 months. Just as a major crackdown begins? Damn. Any advice on what's still safe? I'll definitely lie low for a while.Why not experimenting your exotism?

By experience, I have noticed that in Shanghai, I get much more success than anywhere else! For a while, I thought that this was just due to money, but now I realy think that there is something else: we are exotic

Exotic, by hair, size, nose (very amazing: all Chinese girls like my big nose!)

You just need to smile, to speak English very slowly, compliment them for their English, have a drink in a western style bar,.

And you will probably discover that you can get them in your bedroom without money. Just my piece of advice: turn off the light, this is the key point, as all these young ladies don't want you to see their body I also thought that it was stupid, but removing clothes is much much easier, without light.

So, isn't it a good occasion to re-discover that we like Chinese girls not because of easy and cheap sex, but simply because of their strange beauty?

I do like Chinese girls!

Chill Out
09-05-10, 11:17
Went back to the street I previously reported on, all the BBS are still closed.

Member #3434
09-05-10, 15:21
Can definitely confirm that SH is going on lockdown. Even the fake markets are feeling the heat. First time I've experienced that they try to negotiate price before running around for 10 minutes and bringing the goods (watches). Also KTV that I take friends from out of town were being checked by policia both days that we went. We waited till after they left and were able to still have fun but was definitely much more subdued and eveyone was a bit on edge.

Changer720
09-06-10, 10:18
Was wondering around South Station yesterday which I consider a pretty out of the way place to be as far as downtown Shanghai and where the police should be looking at. I saw a BBS with some decent looking girls in it, and decided to check it out, see what the facilities are like etc (If it was a private room I would have been ok with it, but if I was just two sheets away from another dude pounding away I was gonna just get a quick massage). As luck would have it, it was just one room partitioned into four areas with the use of sheets, I went up and stated I just wanted a massage and I was very lucky indeed that that's all I wanted.

About twenty minutes into it, with two other guys getting serviced around me, the doorbell rang. One of the girls called up to us that it was only the water guy delivering water. I was a little nervous already cause it was a Sunday night, but wasn't worried about myself as I was fully clothed and on my stomach. Anyways, as soon as I heard the girl unlock the door, I heard the door slam open and her screaming for people to watch out. Within seconds, two plain clothed men pulled open my sheet and pulled me out and downstairs. I was lucky, the two other guys in their were in states of undress and the girls with them weren't much better off.

The men hauled of the four people who they had found red handed, and proceeded to question me and the girl apart. I was lucky in being able to truthfully say I wasn't doing anything at all and to fuck off (My Chinese is well native.) I know they heard my Beijing accent though and went at me hard, but I held my own and after about thirty minutes they left me alone with the girl (the owner of the joint had mysteriously disappeared). Anyways, I paid the girl and left to get a real massage to rub away the tension. I don't know about you folks, but I am seriously getting out of the hobby for awhile, except for my favorite regular call girl(s) of course. I'm pretty sure I can still trust them right now. Safe Hunting chaps

MrPatsFan
09-06-10, 14:58
Went back to the street I previously reported on, all the BBS are still closed.Yep, went to Hailang last Wed which now only offers massage with no extra. Called Golden 18 and they are on holiday Break, walked by Heting Elite which is locked. It was a good thing I had my fun in Macau and HK before coming to Shanghai. Macau is definitely men's heaven, where sex trades are accepted, encouraged by many hotel/casinos and somewhat regulated. There's virtually no chance of police intrusion while shagging your gal, in China that's always a constant fear.

Jes007
09-06-10, 18:04
I was in Shanghai for few days and had fun. I got few pictures I want to post but a bit reluctant as I do not see many photos in the photos section. What is the reason for this? Is it to protect the girls? In case girls get in trouble I don't want to do this. What's your opnion?

Golly Woggle
09-06-10, 18:40
So, isn't it a good occasion to re-discover that we like Chinese girls not because of easy and cheap sex...Good point. But my living arrangements will pose a bit of a challenge. One way or another I'll figure something out.

Pit Shang
09-08-10, 00:29
Good point. But my living arrangements will pose a bit of a challenge. One way or another I'll figure something out.In Shanghai, I have seen hotels that you can get by hour, for a reasonable price. If you dig into this forum, I think address had been indicated.

Pit

Black Berry09
09-08-10, 08:32
Can any senior members provide me with the numbers of outcall providers in Shanghai which provide good service and are safe? Also is it safe to get escorts from them to your hotel?

Xxanty
09-08-10, 10:09
Hello Friends,

I will be in Shanghai for 5 days at end of sept. I will stay at Xingyu hotel at Renmin Road, Huangpu Distric (near Yuyuan Garden).

Is there Any action s, BBS, MP near to my place?

Your help will be highly appreciated.

Xxanty

Golly Woggle
09-08-10, 20:55
I finally managed to wander near my old 6F haunt near Jing'an. The elevator was dead and no security guard. Damn. Walked a bit further and noticed the Golden 18 doors were chained shut. I then decided to walk down towards the famous Shanghai Hotel. I had never been there, so I was curious to finally find it. I found it. Stupid me couldn't remember all the posts I had read a year ago about the place, so it took me a while to figure out that the spa was on the 3rd floor. Once I did. I surely must have forgotten another several hundred posts I had read. As I walked in, some guy immediately asked if I wanted a "massage". I replied. Uh. "yes". I was taken to the left side of the front desks into a small area where some ladies were giving foot massages. A pretty cute girl comes out and directs me to a small room behind the foot massage area. I had no real idea what was going on and I pretty much figured that the "spa" was closed and I was about to get a legit massage. I was right. Well I was right about the legit massage. I showered. Which was great because I was sweating like a westerner (I am). Then received a pretty decent massage. There were moments where I felt she was trying to get a "rise" out of me. Which. Uh. She did. I did. I was. OK. I took the hint and started to subtly massage her inner thigh which she had placed in a particularly obvious position. I was thinking. Hmm. There really is no need for her to sit like that to do what she's doing. So. Finally she asks "would you like massage. " and she points. This is where stupid small-head mistake happens. I should have said. Uh. I'm ok. It think I kinda knew that nothing of much interest was about to happen. But still, horny me nodded "uhuh". More stupid was my response to the price. Even more stupid was that I didn't ask ahead of time how much this legit massage cost. Let's just say I made my mistake and learned a valuable lesson I should have already learned a while back. I've been fairly lucky in Shanghai. Mainly due to this forum. So, I guess it was my turn to screw up. Anyway, I ended up with a HJ and the sudden after feeling of. "oh shit". Oh well.

After I paid the silly amount of money and left. I notice a Chinese guy walk up to the front desk. Say something. Then walk straight down to the right. I noticed that seemed to be where I should have been. I'm sure its written in the forum. And I have forgotten it. Was I meant to just walk to the right without asking? Argh.

Funny thing. I was RTFF in the lobby of the hotel to find out which floor to go to. Ha. Maybe I should have read a bit more to refresh my memory

I'll be doing some more wandering soon and will report back. From what I'm reading I don't expect to find much from the old places. Next month I'll be heading down to SE Asia for a week. I'll dream of that for now and hope that when I return things have started to relax here again.

John Lee
09-08-10, 22:37
Hi, Everyone:

I found quite a few massage places in the back side of Radisson Hotel (or New World Hotel) near Nanjing Road (in alleies near the back door of the hotel, withing 1 min walking distance). It is obvious that these massage places are there for guests at Radisson Hotel and other hotels near by.

Do these massage places provide FS? Thanks.

Jes007
09-09-10, 08:30
I was in Shanghai for 5 days and thanks to the info from this forum I had great time there. I stayed a kind of far out of city, close to Ramada Plaza Pudong where a lot of foreigners seems to live. It’s like 60-80 RMB taxi fare to Nanjing Road.

Massage places:
I tried one of the massage places nearby hotel and went for full body massage for 150RMB. Actaullay there were couple of massage places and spas nearby maybe targeting the expats. The girl was from Jiangzu province and spoke decent English. In the room she gave me excellent massage and at the end offered me handjobb. I did not have lot of RMB as the ATM nearby was down and only had 300. She agreed. All in all, good experience. She gave the telephone number if I want her to the hotel.

I had time to visit other places later at night. Based on research I figured out Judys, Malones and Manhatten are the choices.

Tuesday: Judys was almost empty. Malones had lots of people but I had trouble seeing who is working and who is not. Manhatten was packed and there was no doubt about who is who.

Wednesday: The same as Tuesday except there were more girls at Malones.
Thursday: Judys had few girls, Malones was packed but the quality was not up to Manhatten. Manhatten was really packed. Most girls seemed to enter the scene between 11PM and mid night.

I preferred to spend most of my time at Manhatten. Tuesday I met few guys from Australia and UK had we ordered several rounds of drinks. Most drinks cost 50 and beer 40. Around 2AM we were quite drunk. I was talking with a girl from Trinidad and Tobago, her name was Marella. She was quite nice with nice back and boobs. She was studying in Singapore and that was her final day. I went for her and she asked 1500 but I said 1000. We went to my hotel and she stayed there until 5AM. I had nice time but she said later that I agreed 1200 + taxi. I was drunk and didn’t want to argue. See photos of her in the photo section.

On Tuesday I went there again. Had a few drinks with new friend from US. The two first choices of my girls were unavailable and later I was approached by a Vietnamese girl. I think her name is Linh and 25 yrs old. She went home with me for 800. This was her first day. She looked young and fresh but at the hotel she told me she had a 2 yr old kid back home. She was really nice and I had really good time. Lots of kissing and nice owo. She stayed with me until 6 in the morning.

On the third day I catched up with my friends from Tuesday. I was approached by Pinoy girls but I was waiting. Later I spoke with one of the good looking pinoy girls. Had few drinks and had nice time talking with girls. She wanted 1500 for overnight. I had really good time with her.
Overall, Manhatten has the hottest girls. Most of them were from Philippines or Vietnam. May be I paid too much but I really had good time.

There were also SW outside Manhatten and Malones. They offered everything for 200-300 RMB, including anal. I wouldn’t touch any of them

Pete Yim
09-10-10, 09:43
I was in Shanghai for 5 days and thanks to the info from this forum I had great time there. I stayed a kind of far out of city, close to Ramada Plaza Pudong where a lot of foreigners seems to live. It’s like 60-80 RMB taxi fare to Nanjing Road.

Massage places:
I tried one of the massage places nearby hotel and went for full body massage for 150RMB. Actaullay there were couple of massage places and spas nearby maybe targeting the expats. The girl was from Jiangzu province and spoke decent English. In the room she gave me excellent massage and at the end offered me handjobb. I did not have lot of RMB as the ATM nearby was down and only had 300. She agreed. All in all, good experience. She gave the telephone number if I want her to the hotel.
...

Do u remember the name of the massage place ?

Golly Woggle
09-11-10, 01:24
Last night I ventured out to Sarcosa and back in familiar and enjoyable territory. Same routine as usual. Line-up was small. 5 girls. Picked #252 from Hangzhou who seemed the most "happy to be there". Best hot water BBBJ I've had in a long time. DATY was. Very well. Received. She likes AR as well (very clean). At first she was reluctant with DFK but during the deed she loosened up. She didn't speak a word of english until suddenly she exclaimed "Oh Yeah! ". Not to toot my own horn but that made my head swell a bit I'm full of puns today.

As I left, walked through the line-up for the next lucky patron. Seems many of the girls were busy when I arrived since the line-up was at least double mine.

I don't know if I simply lucked out or if Sarcosa is still one of the few regulars remaining open. I was a little nervous considering the present crackdown, but everything went smoothly. The way the process works at this place seems to mitigate some risk. You do the deeds for the first half+ and then the girl leaves, returns, half dresses you and finally gives you a legit massage. I was so relaxed I almost fell asleep during mine. Made her giggle.

Damage was 676.

Chill Out
09-11-10, 12:36
I searched in "general info" and "living in china" but didn't find anything.

Where would you go for a reliable STD test (the ones where they test for everything under the sun) in Shanghai?

And how much would it be?

I didn't take any crazy risks but didn't check for a long while, it's time to do it.

Marsh123
09-11-10, 18:37
If you call and get an escort to your room at a 5 star -will there be possibility that it will be checked too?


I would avoid a bar pickup as much as possible unless your taking her to her place or a non-hotel. I've heard a lot of rumors about the "normal" bars being staked out by cops, and those cops following the people leaving back to their home. If its at a hotel, or even if its not, they'll wait about 15 minutes, go in, ask what you room number is, and go to your room to question you. They'll prove that you two don't know each other by asking for your respective real names etc, remember this isn't exactly a innocent until proven guilty society.

Honestly, I didn't believe the rumors, but my associate who used to go to Hollywood in Beijing all the time for his little piece of Russia, had it happen to him and luckily the girl he was with was a regular who had been with him several times before and so knew the right answers. I've also had pleasure of the police knocking on my door at 1:00 AM for a "cursory" inspection which luckily resulted in them searching an empty room.

All in all, as far as the native Chinese go, the hobby is one full of extreme paranoia.

Simex
09-11-10, 23:58
Dear Fellow Punters -

I am going to be in Shanghai on November - VERY new to the Shanghai scence ( I am more used to FKK clubs in Germany and massage parlours in London - PM me if you want to know more?)

Any recommendation on good discos or clubs where I can pick up working girls for the night (I hear Manhatten and Malones are good places)...

Prices not a problem - I after QUALITY ;-) I will be staying in one of the 5 star hotels in Nanjing Lu - will that be a problem?


Thanks foryour time.
Simex.

Nightwing88
09-12-10, 00:05
I searched in "general info" and "living in china" but didn't find anything.

Where would you go for a reliable STD test (the ones where they test for everything under the sun) in Shanghai?

And how much would it be?

I didn't take any crazy risks but didn't check for a long while, it's time to do it.

I would go to Parkway Health. Their phone number is 6445-5999 and they have about seven locations in Shanghai. They also speak English. Cost is going to be higher than a local doctor (which I have never gone to) but they're good and you can at least explain clearly what you want to them.

Nightwing

Dickie Robert
09-12-10, 07:20
Last night I ventured out to Sarcosa and back in familiar and enjoyable territory. Same routine as usual. Line-up was small. 5 girls. Picked #252 from Hangzhou who seemed the most "happy to be there". Best hot water BBBJ I've had in a long time. DATY was. Very well. Received. She likes AR as well (very clean). At first she was reluctant with DFK but during the deed she loosened up. She didn't speak a word of english until suddenly she exclaimed "Oh Yeah! ". Not to toot my own horn but that made my head swell a bit I'm full of puns today.

As I left, walked through the line-up for the next lucky patron. Seems many of the girls were busy when I arrived since the line-up was at least double mine.

I don't know if I simply lucked out or if Sarcosa is still one of the few regulars remaining open. I was a little nervous considering the present crackdown, but everything went smoothly. The way the process works at this place seems to mitigate some risk. You do the deeds for the first half+ and then the girl leaves, returns, half dresses you and finally gives you a legit massage. I was so relaxed I almost fell asleep during mine. Made her giggle.

Damage was 676.It seems that the crack down has subsided for a while. My understanding from LE friends is that some saunas will remain open if they stay low profile but others will be closed permanently. Wuzhong Street is completely swept clean as far as I know b/c the street was too infameous for its own good.

I know that Zhong Tian (now renamed Xin He) next to Maxdo Center on Xianxia Road is open per my regular girl.

Dickie

Changer720
09-12-10, 16:05
I've been primarily using a trusted service when the need takes me and I don't want to try hitting up some freebies at one of the local bars. Its expensive though, 2500 for overnight, but the girls that are available are amazingly good and its always easy to deal with. Also, the girls can arrive at your door whenever, I've sometimes ordered one up at 6 just for a quick dinner date before the bedroom activities.

As far as hotels go, I haven't had any problems, but most five stars I've stayed at will require the girl to register and show her ID when you bring her up to your room. With the crackdown here, this might be a bit of a problem. In order to prevent this, I've been having them arrive early, like before 7 so no one needs to register, and just ordering room service if we need anything or get hungry.

PM me if you want details for the service I use.


If you call and get an escort to your room at a 5 star -will there be possibility that it will be checked too?

Member #3434
09-14-10, 02:54
You can also check out United Family Hospital which has several locations in Shanghai or the Global Health Center at the Kerry Center.


I would go to Parkway Health. Their phone number is 6445-5999 and they have about seven locations in Shanghai. They also speak English. Cost is going to be higher than a local doctor (which I have never gone to) but they're good and you can at least explain clearly what you want to them.

Nightwing

Five Aces
09-14-10, 05:55
I had just left my favorite DR (Design Resource) Bar in Xintiandi after 3 big size vodka martini's about 2 am this morning. I walked down a narrow lane and this 30ish Chinese girl came on to me and started the, "Hi where are you going? " routine. I said, "Oh Hi, " and started feeling up her ass, saying, "Hmm, skinny ass. " She said, "Well yes I have a skinny ass, and you can have it for 800 yuan, " as I did the same check on her small boobs then looked her right in the eye. She said, "So what do you think. " I told her she was quite good looking. She said, "Well then I have a special just for you. I'll go with you for just 100 yuan. " I took her phone number.

Black Berry09
09-14-10, 09:46
Has anyone tried the outcall massage section of the shanghai craiglist? the pics that r shown are they real and is 1000yuan for FS?looking forward to some update on it by the ISG members.

SteveVai
09-14-10, 19:02
Is it safe to call girls in hotel room (fx hotel on the bund) and are these outcall massage ads any real.

Nicebutthole
09-15-10, 05:01
Where the white women at?

Dragan
09-15-10, 05:04
All,

I have had friends use Craig's list with some success. Lucky two of the girls were as pictured.

Most run through a agent as they check out if you are for real or the law.

As you know shanghai and area's of China have cracked down on illicit

Trade. Things could look up after November. Caution required. But for my friends that had good fortune only good reports (sorry they did not share the ladies contact #)

Bad Boy Billy
09-15-10, 07:01
Manhattan still best deal in town IMHO.

Here are 2 Viets I had recently - RMB1,000 ALL night - both excellent prividors.

Have to cover the faces guys - the fucktards are back at it telling / showing the girls their pics - Billy got burnt again last month - so no more face pics.

PauloThai
09-15-10, 11:30
Manhattan still best deal in town IMHO.

Here are 2 Viets I had recently - RMB1,000 ALL night - both excellent prividors. Have to cover the faces guys - the fucktards are back at it telling / showing the girls their pics - Billy got burnt again last month - so no more face pics.Hi Billy,

I understand you don't want to get burned by the "fucktards".

Still those big yellow thanks is too much. You can do better.

Thanks for the pictures.

Cheers!

Changer720
09-15-10, 16:04
To the folks who messaged me, if you were a senior member with a decent number of informative posts, I messaged you back please enjoy. If not, don't take it the wrong way, but with my recent track record, I need to make sure that the services I use remain safe and just as importantly open for business, good luck all.

Scooter Monger
09-15-10, 19:33
I searched in "general info" and "living in china" but didn't find anything.

Where would you go for a reliable STD test (the ones where they test for everything under the sun) in Shanghai?

And how much would it be?

I didn't take any crazy risks but didn't check for a long while, it's time to do it.Shanghai Skin Disease & STD Hospital
196 Wuyi Rd
Tel: 6252 2721

Its just off of Yan An Road, about 5-10 min cab from jing an temple. They have various forms of Hiv test, the hiv dna test, the fast test and the long test. I had a bit of a freak out a couple years back, I can't remember the exact price, but none of the test cost more then 150 rmb, and pay the little extra cash for the VIP department. I think the test of everything under the sun is 3-400 rmb, I don't remember exactly.

Hua Shan Hospital just off of Urumuqi Lu also does STD testing, clinic is at end of the hall on 3rd floor. Fast hiv test is I think 50 rmb, and long hiv test is also 50 as well if I remember correctly, this was all about a year and a half ago since I was going to get checked due to freak out. And if you go early you get your results in about an hour but there is a bit of a queue. Weird thing is when your waiting in that queue you will see 60-70 year old Chinese men and women also getting hiv test, LOL, gee I wonder why. Its not something you see everyday.

Both these places are easily accessible, and you don't have to pay 10x the price at parkway health.

Good luck

Five Aces
09-16-10, 02:42
I went to the massage place behind the Radisson twice in the last week to help with jet lag. I don't have them pegged for FS. They give excellent massage and are probably quick enough to add a happy ending.

But. They have a sign on the wall to the effect that they are giving straight massage only, at least for a while (My interpretation, I can't read chinese.). Their real menu has the same item for 100 rmb more but you can't get that. Do the math.

Another favorite place for good massage and hj is (In a sad voice), "Not giving massage anymore." Nice crackdown.

Comrade 2255
09-16-10, 04:23
Perhaps the women whose unmodified and identifying photographs were posted on a worldwide forum without their knowledge or consent would know precisely who the fucktard is.


Manhattan still best deal in town IMHO.

Here are 2 Viets I had recently - RMB1,000 ALL night - both excellent prividors.

Have to cover the faces guys - the fucktards are back at it telling / showing the girls their pics - Billy got burnt again last month - so no more face pics.

Tasss
09-16-10, 05:28
Some info for those coming to SH during this crackdown. Seems like even the established massage/saunas are being very careful about who they let in. You'd essentially have to prove yourself to be a previous customer before they let you through the door. For example, the front desk of a place that I went to last year said they don't offer full service massage until another guy asked me a bunch of questions about which girl I visited. I'm thinking that if you look Asian, like me, it might help to speak some Japanese or Korean and pretend you're not Chinese, therefore they don't think you're some undercover cop. I'm not sure about this. I guess if you're white you'll be OK.

For the white folks though, it might not be a good time to visit BBS's if that's your thing. A lot of them are secretive about offering FS. For Asians, it might be slightly better, but you'd often have to accept their regular massage for 25-30 RMB before they kind of check you out and offer you FS. Stick with the expensive saunas.

Shaun Palmer
09-16-10, 16:40
Yesterday night, I picked up a girl for the first time in manhattan bar.

Quite easy I must say. Sweet small ass and perfect tits, nice girl very friendly, pretty smart and speaking a very good english.

She agreed to come to my place for 1300 yuans and have stayed there until 10 am. We had very good sex three times and it was a good experience. Should be back to this bar very soon, I guess.

Mark17
09-16-10, 18:57
Manhattan still best deal in town IMHO.

Here are 2 Viets I had recently - RMB1,000 ALL night - both excellent prividors.

Have to cover the faces guys - the fucktards are back at it telling / showing the girls their pics - Billy got burnt again last month - so no more face pics.Billy did you take them both at the same time?

1000 each, or for both?

Yellowfinger
09-16-10, 21:34
Hello brothers,

I'm new to the scene in SH but I am into getting a relaxing prostate massage when I land in SH.

Anyone know a decent place for a good prostate massage?

Or anyone interested in meeting up this weekend?

Cheers

Bad Boy Billy
09-16-10, 23:16
Billy did you take them both at the same time?

1000 each, or for both?No I took them seperately mate - on the same night.

The dweal I struck with bioth was RMB800 for 2 hours including pictures - if you treat me well and perform to my satisfaction I give you RMB1,000 - both got RMB1,000.

Took the first one about 11.30pm and the second right on 2am - hotel only 10mins away by taxi so to and fro easy.

Bad Boy Billy
09-16-10, 23:18
Perhaps the women whose unmodified and identifying photographs were posted on a worldwide forum without their knowledge or consent would know precisely who the fucktard is.I read back through your past posts Comrade - you seem to have a problem with guys posting pics - you on a save a ho mission?

Bad Boy Billy
09-16-10, 23:19
Perhaps the women whose unmodified and identifying photographs were posted on a worldwide forum without their knowledge or consent would know precisely who the fucktard is.I read back through your past posts Comrade - you seem to have a problem with guys posting pics - you on a save a ho mission?

Drainaps
09-17-10, 00:56
Chill Out,
UNLESS you are a one-time-never-come-back visitor here, believe me you don't want to undergo these tests in SH. If anything suspicious comes out, you're risking your work permit, visa, privacy and everything else. Even private places like Parkway are compelled to give you away by law if anything should be reported, especially HIV. Do yourself a favor and go for the testing to HK, BKK or SIN. And believe me, I mean it. Pm if in doubt.




I searched in "general info" and "living in china" but didn't find anything.

Where would you go for a reliable STD test (the ones where they test for everything under the sun) in Shanghai?

And how much would it be?

I didn't take any crazy risks but didn't check for a long while, it's time to do it.

Comrade 2255
09-17-10, 01:38
If Bad Boy Billy reads Comrade 2255's past posts a little more carefully, then perhaps Bad Boy Billy might understand Comrade 2255's position a little more accurately than Bad Boy Billy currently appears to.


I read back through your past posts Comrade - you seem to have a problem with guys posting pics - you on a save a ho mission?

Five Aces
09-17-10, 06:11
I was distracted by a Craiglist girl who tried, "cheat the tourist" complete with being nothing like the picture and ten years older. I cooled off a bit and decided to go to Sacrosa, the real heaven on earth.

So not paying any attention I got into a cab with no license on the dash. When we got there this large soft looking driver pointed to 100 rmb. I got out my phone. It was too dark to take his picture and there was no license or picture in front.

I phoned a number I picked up from a legit taxi with an english sign saying call this if you have a taxi problem. The number is 962-288. After a preliminary robot saying press 1 for european languages a female english speaking voice came online.

I told her what was going on. She said, "That is against the rules. Would you like me to talk to him. " I said yes and gave him the phone.

He talked to her and put the phone down, gesturing for money. I handed him the 25rmb of my original offer. They never give up on how a tourist wants to avoid trouble. He showed me 50rmb on his calculator.

He still had my phone which gave him an advantage. I wanted to go to Sarcosa not have a street fight in rush hour. I gave him 30rmb and he opened the door.

After that things got better. I love Sarcosa and later got a burger and great phone number at Malones. In Puxi

Golly Woggle
09-17-10, 10:15
Hopefully this report isn't repeated. Had a bit of a glitch saving it, so not sure where my last one went

Anyway.

Returned to Sarcosa this Monday and saw #270 from Beijing. Even better BBBJ than my visit with the previous girl last week. Wow. She had me moving here there everywhere for different positions to access my little brother. Also, she wasn't shy with DFK. Yum.

It seemed a bit dead on Monday. I didn't mind. I think I received the full line-up coming in. And saw the same, minus my lovely, on the way out.

I love this place. Hopefully I'll be able to find some variety elsewhere soon.

All. Be careful.

G.

Chill Out
09-17-10, 12:45
Chill Out,

UNLESS you are a one-time-never-come-back visitor here, believe me you don't want to undergo these tests in SH. If anything suspicious comes out, you're risking your work permit, visa, privacy and everything else.Thanks for the warning Drainaps. I've lived here long enough to be paranoid and this was also in my mind. I'll get tested outside later.

Appreciated.

Gianni Versace
09-17-10, 17:16
Hello Fellow Mongers

I've RTFF but still am having a hard time figuring out where the best location to stay in Shanghai is with all of the "action" and regualar night life as well. can anyone make any recomendations with the crack downs on hotels and establishments?

thanks in advance

gv

BionicMan
09-17-10, 17:56
Hello Fellow Mongers

I've RTFF but still am having a hard time figuring out where the best location to stay in Shanghai is with all of the "action" and regualar night life as well. can anyone make any recomendations with the crack downs on hotels and establishments?

thanks in advance

gv
The city is wide,
the taxi damn cheap.
the saunas (as long as still opened and not hit by police cracks) are well spreaded,
so personally I find hard to recommend.
Meybe the proximities of bars often mentioned here and alikes? if you are into picking up a girl at the bar and have an hotel nearby. That will certainly mean girls will run for a ST to go back and pick a 2nd or 3rd customer for the night, IMHO

Bad Boy Billy
09-17-10, 23:59
If Bad Boy Billy reads Comrade 2255's past posts a little more carefully, then perhaps Bad Boy Billy might understand Comrade 2255's position a little more accurately than Bad Boy Billy currently appears to.Bad Boy Billy could not give a flying fuck what Comrade 2255 thinks - you run your race my friend and I will run mine.

Don't like Billy's postings and pics? Here is a suggestion - don't bother to read Billy's posts and whatever you do do not click on attached pics - you might see naked w.hores.

What time you off to church tomorrow mate?

Fuzimiao
09-18-10, 05:47
Thanks for the warning Drainaps. I've lived here long enough to be paranoid and this was also in my mind. I'll get tested outside later.

Appreciated.Yeah real good advice, if you're poxed up or worse, just keep spreading it around, wouldn't want you to be embarrassed now, would we!

For your information, the visa/residence permit rules were very publicly changed a month or so ago. HIV carriers are no longer deported.

You've been given sound advice on where to go, if you have any concerns, GO!

fz

Mike666
09-18-10, 10:24
Hopefully this report isn't repeated. Had a bit of a glitch saving it, so not sure where my last one went

Anyway.

Returned to Sarcosa this Monday and saw #270 from Beijing. Even better BBBJ than my visit with the previous girl last week. Wow. She had me moving here there everywhere for different positions to access my little brother. Also, she wasn't shy with DFK. Yum.

It seemed a bit dead on Monday. I didn't mind. I think I received the full line-up coming in. And saw the same, minus my lovely, on the way out.

I love this place. Hopefully I'll be able to find some variety elsewhere soon.

All. Be careful.

G.Thanks for your post and great to know that the ole playground is still up and running. How's the line up? Did you see a lot of new girls (girls with 1XX or 2XX)?

Ronin500
09-18-10, 14:04
Hi. I'll be in Shanghai in October. Sad to hear about the current crackdown. Can anyone tell me if it has effected the local knock shops. Those little shops with the red lights or the girls hanging out behind a curtained window. When you go in and pick a girl, usually for 200-33 rmb, they take you to a hidden room and then provide the wham-bam FS. However, some, once they get to know you, can provide a longer time GFE. The ones I went to were in Pudong sort of near the Jin Xiao area.

Levitian
09-19-10, 01:20
Hello Fellow Mongers

I've RTFF but still am having a hard time figuring out where the best location to stay in Shanghai is with all of the "action" and regualar night life as well. can anyone make any recomendations with the crack downs on hotels and establishments?

thanks in advance

gv

Look, there is a own threat about Shanghai Hotels focusing exactly on this issue.
RTFF, comrade.

Levitian

Chill Out
09-19-10, 10:42
if you're poxed up or worse, just keep spreading it around, wouldn't want you to be embarrassed now, would we!Settle down. I'm going to the Philippines soon, I'll get checked there. It's very unlikely that I have anything, since I'm a P4P beginner and I'm always, always condomed up. And right now due to the crackdown I don't do P4P. So I'm not spreading anything anywhere.

Golly Woggle
09-19-10, 15:57
Thanks for your post and great to know that the ole playground is still up and running. How's the line up? Did you see a lot of new girls (girls with 1XX or 2XX)?At least 10 girls and from what I remember they were all #2XX.

Vitc77
09-20-10, 18:43
Hi bro.

Was in Shanghai over the weekend. Think the crackdown really narrow the choice to relax. My usual fav sauna was out too. Triple-nine. Sighz. Anyway, back to web to checkout alternate plc. Manage to get to the wave and had a good time.

Yup. Wave offer ard looks 6-8. Din see any 9 & above.

Good pricing and good time.

Have fun.

Gao Xing
09-22-10, 20:07
Hello Fellow Mongers

I've RTFF but still am having a hard time figuring out where the best location to stay in Shanghai is with all of the "action" and regualar night life as well. can anyone make any recomendations with the crack downs on hotels and establishments?

thanks in advance

gvI would recommend staying in Pudong, near the Dongchang Road or Century Avenue. You'll get the benefit of being near saunas such as Sacrosa, massage / bar zones such as Changyi Road, and bar district on Pudong Road. From there, you can also easily get on the metro Line 2 into central Shanghai. It seems that with the recent crackdowns, much of the effort has been in central Shanghai (Jing'an District), although some activity has remained in Pudong. Exceptions include Manhattan's bar near Tongren Road, in the central city.

Good luck, and have a great trip!

DutchMountain
09-22-10, 21:06
Hey y'all,

First report. Been lurking on this board for a few years (FKK, Budapest, Netherlands) but I've only recently donated my $20 to Jackson mainly because of all the help the Shanghai/Guangzhou boards have been.

Was in Shanghai last week, staying at one of the big 5* hotels within walking distance from Manhattan/Malone's/Judy's. Arrived on Monday from Europe, seriously jetlagged. Decided to beat off the jetlag by going to Manhattan's. Serious mistake. Was drunk very quickly and decided to leave. One of the birds I'd been chatting to followed me out yapping on about how she would come to the hotel, give me a massage etc. Etc. I told her to go back but once she dropped her price to 500 RMB I agreed.

Big mistake. Remember I was both tired and drunk.

At the hotel we walked straight through the lobby. No-one stopped us, despite it was pretty obvious who was who & what. In the room I can recall taking off my clothes, she taking a shower and then rambling on about 500 Euro, not 500 RMB. In my drunken stupour I pulled my wallet from the hotel safe and gave her a few more RMB. Next thing I recall is we're in a 69. In my mind's eye this went on for ages. And finally at one point I came. I was drifting in and out of a drunken jetlag sleep all the way through.

I recall her getting dressed and walking out. Woke up next morning with a start. Opened the hotelroom safe and. She'd cleaned me out. I had about 4000 RMB, $100, GBP 150 in my wallet. All gone. She left all credit cards, watch and passport. In the bathroom she had swiped all my condoms, aftershave, razor and razor blades. *****! She must have seen me type the number combination of the safe. I felt so stupid! Kicked myself hard! Went back to Manhattans the next three nights but no sign of her.

The next night I picked up a girl from Guangzhou in Malone's. She was in Shanghai on a 4 month permit. Nice figure, great rack, high cheekbones, perhaps some Russian blood. Wanted 1500 RMB, we settled for 1200 RMB. Went to the hotel, where she showed me an entrance which allows you to slip upstairs out of view of reception. Very clever, have to remember that for next time. She stayed the whole night, from around midnight until 10:00 am Was a real GFE. We did it twice that night and I woke up to a handjob. On the way out she asked for taxi money. I asked how much and she told me (laughing) 200 RMB. I asked whether she was taking a taxi back to Guangzhou, and gave her 50 RMB for her efforts. She gave me one last kiss, handed me her card with email/phonenumber and left.

The next two nights picked up girls in Malone's. Similar experience, similar prices. Although the girls in Manhattan are definitely a cut above those in Malone's I much prefer Malone's. The general crowd is nicer, the band is ace and they have Guiness on tap. I also find the girls at Malone's less 'professional'. But that's just me.

Didn't notice much about the crackdown although my Guangzhou girl did mention there was a lot of undercover police about. The hotel had the obligatory police poster (not from the hotel itself) but I didn't get the feeling they really cared. After all I walked straight through (well, zig zagged) the lobby with a girl who was obviously a WG.

Am back in Shanghai in three month time. I'll make sure *not* to go out the first night!

Bonzo1
09-23-10, 14:50
Sorry to hear about your terrible experience. Perhaps for the sake of everyone you could describe her a bit, so if we meet her we'll know to avoid (or maybe even subtly investigate.)

Btw, I always use the safe when they are in the shower, or otherwise just ask them to go into the bathroom. It's a tiny cost of mood (if at all,) but the habit ensures I never lose my passport, computer, phone, etc., which would be unthinkable.

Glad you had fun elsewhere.

-B-



Hey y'all,

First report. Been lurking on this board for a few years (FKK, Budapest, Netherlands) but I've only recently donated my $20 to Jackson mainly because of all the help the Shanghai/Guangzhou boards have been.

Was in Shanghai last week, staying at one of the big 5* hotels within walking distance from Manhattan/Malone's/Judy's. Arrived on Monday from Europe, seriously jetlagged. Decided to beat off the jetlag by going to Manhattan's. Serious mistake. Was drunk very quickly and decided to leave. One of the birds I'd been chatting to followed me out yapping on about how she would come to the hotel, give me a massage etc. Etc. I told her to go back but once she dropped her price to 500 RMB I agreed.

Big mistake. Remember I was both tired and drunk.

At the hotel we walked straight through the lobby. No-one stopped us, despite it was pretty obvious who was who & what. In the room I can recall taking off my clothes, she taking a shower and then rambling on about 500 Euro, not 500 RMB. In my drunken stupour I pulled my wallet from the hotel safe and gave her a few more RMB. Next thing I recall is we're in a 69. In my mind's eye this went on for ages. And finally at one point I came. I was drifting in and out of a drunken jetlag sleep all the way through.

I recall her getting dressed and walking out. Woke up next morning with a start. Opened the hotelroom safe and. She'd cleaned me out. I had about 4000 RMB, $100, GBP 150 in my wallet. All gone. She left all credit cards, watch and passport. In the bathroom she had swiped all my condoms, aftershave, razor and razor blades. *****! She must have seen me type the number combination of the safe. I felt so stupid! Kicked myself hard! Went back to Manhattans the next three nights but no sign of her.

The next night I picked up a girl from Guangzhou in Malone's. She was in Shanghai on a 4 month permit. Nice figure, great rack, high cheekbones, perhaps some Russian blood. Wanted 1500 RMB, we settled for 1200 RMB. Went to the hotel, where she showed me an entrance which allows you to slip upstairs out of view of reception. Very clever, have to remember that for next time. She stayed the whole night, from around midnight until 10:00 am Was a real GFE. We did it twice that night and I woke up to a handjob. On the way out she asked for taxi money. I asked how much and she told me (laughing) 200 RMB. I asked whether she was taking a taxi back to Guangzhou, and gave her 50 RMB for her efforts. She gave me one last kiss, handed me her card with email/phonenumber and left.

The next two nights picked up girls in Malone's. Similar experience, similar prices. Although the girls in Manhattan are definitely a cut above those in Malone's I much prefer Malone's. The general crowd is nicer, the band is ace and they have Guiness on tap. I also find the girls at Malone's less 'professional'. But that's just me.

Didn't notice much about the crackdown although my Guangzhou girl did mention there was a lot of undercover police about. The hotel had the obligatory police poster (not from the hotel itself) but I didn't get the feeling they really cared. After all I walked straight through (well, zig zagged) the lobby with a girl who was obviously a WG.

Am back in Shanghai in three month time. I'll make sure *not* to go out the first night!

Pcpc1688
09-24-10, 07:12
Hi All,

Is it still up and running as of today?

PC out

Sky Ryder
09-24-10, 08:35
First, let me say that the quality of talent out and about on Tuesday night was amazing. I am not sure where all the local gals were headed to get their holiday started but they looked good going there!
Went to xintandi for a drink fairly early and found that a few of the Manhattan crowd have now decided to take up residence in the bars in xintandi. I spoke with a couple and they said that is give them an opportunity to be a "new face" in the crowd and if things don't work out they move to Manhattan later. Both of the gals I was talking to made some new friends while we were there. I moved on to Judy and it was DOH, unless you were interested in LB's. Only a half dozen gals at 12:00, then to Manhattan. I was surprised at the relative small turn out there as well, I figured that many of the gals weren't coming out expecting a low turn out of guys due to the upcoming holiday. Did manage to meet a real sweet filipina morsel that took care of my sweet tooth.......

Pete Yim
09-24-10, 14:37
Hi All,

Is it still up and running as of today?

PC out
Last week I heard it is running. However, how can u know when will be a raid?

Pcpc1688
09-24-10, 16:44
Last week I heard it is running. However, how can u know when will be a raid?


I called and it is open as of now.

PC out

DutchMountain
09-24-10, 19:47
Sorry to hear about your terrible experience. Perhaps for the sake of everyone you could describe her a bit, so if we meet her we'll know to avoid (or maybe even subtly investigate.)
-B-Hard to describe her. I was seriously drunk/tired. She must have been about 5' 6" (1. 65 cm), long curly hair, looked Philipino. She was wearing a white skirt with big black polka dots, and a black top. Tits were probably big see or the cup. No tattoo's and a shaven pussy. Was standing midway against the bar in Manhattan.

Dutch

Chill Out
09-24-10, 21:51
Since Beijing was first hit by the crackdown a few months back, I asked in the BJ thread, and it's not looking good. Members there confirm this crackdown is serious business. Some says BJ never recovered from pre-Olympics levels.


Hi,

I think this affects all China; how it will turn out in the long run I don't know.

It's a nationwide campaign that from what understand have a central BJ task force that travels around the country to educate about the new ways to stop this hobby.

And if I have got this correct it's a 10year plan they have launched, but I can have misunderstood that.

This is not like before where every city took its own measures to handle this.

So what's interesting to know, how fast it recovers, BJ was first out, and BJ sets the tone for the rest.

Or is this a long time attitude change we have to live with, personally I don't believe that but TIC and a campaign like this have never been launched before.

I try to follow Chinese forums regarding this hobby and from what I can understand, this is bad.

There is nowhere in China now that have a normal biz situation, but BJ reports say it is starting to recover.

Dongguan have 30% drop in hotel bookings, many towns is almost shut down and our Chinese hobby friend don't go out and play.

I found info that SH was about to get hit 1-2 weeks before it actually happened, so it would be interesting to know if it is true that BJ starting to open up.

This campaign have nothing to do with us foreigners, our contribution is so small you can't count that,

Many of our Chinese friends think that this will go on to next year; others to national holyday and then all of this will slowly fade away, but some think it's going to be a major change.

Ice Dragon
09-24-10, 22:52
An MP on the East side of Laoshan Lu was "visited" two weeks ago, all staff and 6 clients were taken, questioned for 48 hours, then released without charge, but for one girl who confessed to agreeing to provide a tebie (special) anmo. She got 6 months. No mention of foreigners, I assume the clients were local.

Dbhappiness
09-24-10, 23:38
I will have a 13 hour layover in the Shanghai airport. Is there a place I can go for FS that is close to the airport? Details would be great.

Thanks.

DB

Shaun Palmer
09-25-10, 00:49
Hey, I wannna report here what happened yesterday night in manhattan bar.

I was sitting inside with a friend when a pretty nice ass from Cambodia came.

We started flirting, she was pretty hot and seemed to be the kind of girl who gives you a good job. She wanted 1000rmb for 1 hour and 2000rmb for all night. I stayed gentleman, explaining why I couldn't pay that much(I wanted a girl for the night). And tried to lower the price a little bit. But obviously, she didn't agree on that point. She left my table. And gave me two killer looks from the other side of the room saying "fuck". Then she came back and tried to pour her beer on me, seriously, but I stopped her and got very mad and asked her to go far from me. I told my friend I wanted to go outside because I wasnt in the mood for starting a fight or something, and I felt like I could get reallly mad. Maybe one hour later, I went back inside and she was still here, when she saw me going trough the room to the bathroom, she punched "my balls". What a *****! When I went back outside, I met the girl I spent a night with last week. She looked like she was glad to meet me. She came home with me, without talking about money and she left this morning asking me to pay only for the taxi! That's a nice girl, isn't it? She ended up with 500rmb and my number. But I am still diaspointed about mahnahttan. Going there should be relaxing not stressing. Am I wrong?

Pete Yim
09-25-10, 03:07
I called and it is open as of now.

PC out
As a second thought, as Heting is bit far away from the City center, chance of crack down should be relatively lower and bear in mind the exceptionally low profile as well.

Member #3444
09-25-10, 06:01
Seriously, Pete Yim, or anyone else who wants to hang out, I'll pay you cash money for the subscription and buy a round of drinks to sponsor me, but this setup is too risky to put on my own credit card.

I would also offer that the amount charged is kind of silly - who donates $19.95 to a charity? Make it an even $20 or something sensical.

Pcpc1688
09-25-10, 17:34
Seriously, Pete Yim, or anyone else who wants to hang out, I'll pay you cash money for the subscription and buy a round of drinks to sponsor me, but this setup is too risky to put on my own credit card.

I would also offer that the amount charged is kind of silly - who donates $19.95 to a charity? Make it an even $20 or something sensical.


Shmitty,

Jackson is solid as gold. You dont have to worry about your $20.

PC out

Gao Xing
09-25-10, 17:38
She wanted 1000rmb for 1 hour and 2000rmb for all night. I stayed gentleman, explaining why I couldn't pay that much(I wanted a girl for the night). And tried to lower the price a little bit. But obviously, she didn't agree on that point. She left my table. And gave me two killer looks from the other side of the room saying "fuck". Then she came back and tried to pour her beer on me, seriously, but I stopped her and got very mad and asked her to go far from me.Well, you are right. You don't want to stress out when trying to find horizontal relaxation. Anyway, this sounds like an unusual experience. Certainly 2000 LT is well out of the range of what you should expect from Manhattan. And then coming back to pour beer on you? Sounds like you should have reported her to Manhattan's management, to get her kicked out. There's no need for that. Anyway, glad to know that you had a more reasonable result later on. Any reports on that? Best!

Gao Xing
09-25-10, 17:52
I will have a 13 hour layover in the Shanghai airport. Is there a place I can go for FS that is close to the airport? Details would be great.Now in Shanghai, you can get a 24-hour transit visa to allow you into the city. Well, from most civilized countries, that is. There is nothing near the Airport. I suggest you take the Maglev (60 RMB, or 100 RMB round trip) to the terminus at Longyang Station. From there, you can take a taxi to Sacrosa. That might be your best bet right now. Read the forum for directions, but it is near the Dongchang Road station on metro Line 2, which you can access from Longyang Station. (Alternatively, you can take Metro Line 2 directly to Longyang Station from Pudong Airport, but it will take much longer than Maglev.)

If that doesn't work, there are many massage places near the Pudong Avenue station. Transfer at Line 2's Century Avenue station (take Line 2 from Pudong, or take the maglev to Longyang Road and transfer there to Line 2) to Line 4. One station to the north. Take exit 1, and walk past the Eton Hotel to your right. At the next intersection, turn right at Changyi Road (heading east), and you'll see lots of massage places and bars on the left side of the road. All will offer you rub and tug for an extra 100 to 200 RMB, depending on your negotiating.

Good luck! Things are changing quickly in Shanghai due to the World Expo, but you should definitely be able to find some fun in the time allotted.

Member #3444
09-25-10, 19:57
Shmitty,

Jackson is solid as gold. You dont have to worry about your $20.

PC outExcept for the fact that the name of the charging company shows up as the top response when you google it on another board that he runs that is clearly and undeniably related to the hobby. And the post below was significantly edited to remove that part of the discussion, that was not what I posted.

Pcpc1688
09-25-10, 23:03
Except for the fact that the name of the charging company shows up as the top response when you google it on another board that he runs that is clearly and undeniably related to the hobby. And the post below was significantly edited to remove that part of the discussion, that was not what I posted.


You can always email him and get his mailing address and send him a check if need be.

Also, becoming a Senior Member gives you many benefits as well.

Good luck,

PC out

Member #3444
09-26-10, 06:12
Now in Shanghai, you can get a 24-hour transit visa to allow you into the city. Well, from most civilized countries, that is. There is nothing near the Airport. I suggest you take the Maglev (60 RMB, or 100 RMB round trip) to the terminus at Longyang Station. From there, you can take a taxi to Sacrosa. That might be your best bet right now. Read the forum for directions, but it is near the Dongchang Road station on metro Line 2, which you can access from Longyang Station. (Alternatively, you can take Metro Line 2 directly to Longyang Station from Pudong Airport, but it will take much longer than Maglev.)Sacrosa is a winner and easy to get to. Take the maglev as above to get to Century Ave station on line 2 (not to be confused with Century Park, they are close to each other but very different). Take exit 1 out of the station, this will put you on Century Ave facing northwest. Directly ahead as you come out at about the 11:00 position is the Intercontinental Hotel (brown and gold building and fairly easy to see). Walk to this hotel so that you are on the corner of Laoshan and Zhangyang.

You now want to walk along Zhangyang road along the hotel and keep going past it (you should see on your right a large plaza with, among other things, a 7-11). Walk 1 block to the next major intersection (clarifying point, there is a smaller intersection before Pudong South which would force you to walk under a Costa Coffee and Best Buy. This is the wrong street, keep going), which is Pudong Nan Lu (Pudong South Road). There is a mall called Next Age on this corner, and the opposite corner is one called Time Square.

Turn right and walk about 400 yards, just past the end of the mall is a Haagen-Dazs, and just after that you can go to the right in between another two shopping malls. Here you will see a fountain and behind that a bunch of very distinctive statues (a few animals and superheroes like Superman, Batman, etc.) As you walk toward these statues from Pudong South Road, veer left between the two buildings, keeping the Steak King on your right. The next entrance into the tower on the right will have a large (20' diameter) circular window above the door, and there should be a security guard. As you walk in, he will likely look at you and say "5th floor" which is where you want to go.

Go in the elevator to the 5th floor, you will walk into a very dark area that leads you to the right. From there just follow directions and you will soon be overwhelmed with hot women to the tune of 680RMB for 70 minutes. Specific reviews and stories of what to expect can be found elsewhere in the forum.

Fatman1234
09-26-10, 09:37
Shanghai Hotel 2nd floor sauna closed today when visited in the afternoon.

G Haribo
09-26-10, 17:25
I just came back from the Sauna in Pudong mentioned several times earlier (you can find out by reading the previous post). I went there around 10pm and it was business as usual, but very quiet, with very few people. In fact, when I arrived, I was the only one taking shower. That was great, because I had a bigger selection. There were around 20 girls to choose from, with look ranging from 6 to 9. I picked up one sweet Guangdong girl that was smiling at me and was very happy with my choice.
She was 20 years old, nice boobs, quite pretty (I would rate her 8) and always smiling.

I had a very nice session with her and she happily gave me her phone number. Next time, I will take her again.

When I came out from the room, again, I was the only one. Very quiet.
I paid the fee 676rmb and left.

Seems like the crackdown has scared everyone. But my didi could not wait.

Tomorrow, I will try another place and will let you know.

Stegram
09-26-10, 21:31
Seriously, Pete Yim, or anyone else who wants to hang out, I'll pay you cash money for the subscription and buy a round of drinks to sponsor me, but this setup is too risky to put on my own credit card.

I would also offer that the amount charged is kind of silly - who donates $19.95 to a charity? Make it an even $20 or something sensical.

You can mail him $25 cash in an envelope with ONLY your user name and it's all set. It DID take around 5 weeks to become active and by then I was already back. But if you plan ahead it's all good.

Herry
09-27-10, 16:05
Sacrosa is a winner and easy to get to. Take the maglev as above to get to Century Ave station on line 2 (not to be confused with Century Park, they are close to each other but very different). Take exit 1 out of the station, this will put you on Century Ave facing northwest. Directly ahead as you come out at about the 11:00 position is the Intercontinental Hotel (brown and gold building and fairly easy to see). Walk to this hotel so that you are on the corner of Laoshan and Zhangyang.

You now want to walk along Zhangyang road along the hotel and keep going past it (you should see on your right a large plaza with, among other things, a 7-11). Walk 1 block to the next major intersection (clarifying point, there is a smaller intersection before Pudong South which would force you to walk under a Costa Coffee and Best Buy. This is the wrong street, keep going), which is Pudong Nan Lu (Pudong South Road). There is a mall called Next Age on this corner, and the opposite corner is one called Time Square.

Turn right and walk about 400 yards, just past the end of the mall is a Haagen-Dazs, and just after that you can go to the right in between another two shopping malls. Here you will see a fountain and behind that a bunch of very distinctive statues (a few animals and superheroes like Superman, Batman, etc.) As you walk toward these statues from Pudong South Road, veer left between the two buildings, keeping the Steak King on your right. The next entrance into the tower on the right will have a large (20' diameter) circular window above the door, and there should be a security guard. As you walk in, he will likely look at you and say "5th floor" which is where you want to go.

Go in the elevator to the 5th floor, you will walk into a very dark area that leads you to the right. From there just follow directions and you will soon be overwhelmed with hot women to the tune of 680RMB for 70 minutes. Specific reviews and stories of what to expect can be found elsewhere in the forum.680Rmb for 70 minutes, is the price fix? Or still have to negotiate?

If so, do we have to ask the price first or they will give a price in advance?

Hmmm. Want to give a try someday.

Herry
09-27-10, 16:13
Sacrosa is a winner and easy to get to. Take the maglev as above to get to Century Ave station on line 2 (not to be confused with Century Park, they are close to each other but very different). Take exit 1 out of the station, this will put you on Century Ave facing northwest. Directly ahead as you come out at about the 11:00 position is the Intercontinental Hotel (brown and gold building and fairly easy to see). Walk to this hotel so that you are on the corner of Laoshan and Zhangyang.

You now want to walk along Zhangyang road along the hotel and keep going past it (you should see on your right a large plaza with, among other things, a 7-11). Walk 1 block to the next major intersection (clarifying point, there is a smaller intersection before Pudong South which would force you to walk under a Costa Coffee and Best Buy. This is the wrong street, keep going), which is Pudong Nan Lu (Pudong South Road). There is a mall called Next Age on this corner, and the opposite corner is one called Time Square.

Turn right and walk about 400 yards, just past the end of the mall is a Haagen-Dazs, and just after that you can go to the right in between another two shopping malls. Here you will see a fountain and behind that a bunch of very distinctive statues (a few animals and superheroes like Superman, Batman, etc.) As you walk toward these statues from Pudong South Road, veer left between the two buildings, keeping the Steak King on your right. The next entrance into the tower on the right will have a large (20' diameter) circular window above the door, and there should be a security guard. As you walk in, he will likely look at you and say "5th floor" which is where you want to go.

Go in the elevator to the 5th floor, you will walk into a very dark area that leads you to the right. From there just follow directions and you will soon be overwhelmed with hot women to the tune of 680RMB for 70 minutes. Specific reviews and stories of what to expect can be found elsewhere in the forum.680RMB for 70 minutes, is the price fix? or still have to negotiate?

if so, should i ask the price first?

wanna give it a try someday.

Herry
09-27-10, 16:17
About the sacrosa, is the price fix for RMB 680 of 70mins service?

With whom should I ask the price?

Want to give a try someday.

G Haribo
09-27-10, 17:15
Today, went to try Heting for the first time. A bit far away from the city center, and does not look like a sauna from outside, but managed to find it. It is opened and in operation. When I entered, I acted like I was familiar with the place. The guy asked me whether I knew the price, I said yes. Then he took me to the locker where I undressed and proceed to the shower.

The site is higher scale than the one in Pudong (which is the same boss by the way) with nicer room and prettier girl. When I was there around 9:30pm, no many people, but busier than the one in Pudong. There were around 20 girls to choose from and I had a Chongqing girl, No 199, 21 years old, very nice face (rate as 8) and nice body.

Went to room, proceed with the usual cath bath, back and front, then one of my best BBJ in China. She really knew how to use her tongue. I did her in several position, popped up and had a rest while she was cleaning my didi with her mouth and tongue. She then brought some hot towel and did a ball massage, while chatting. I can speak chinese, so it really helps to break the ice. After few minutes, I was getting hard again, and she asked me: "one more time ? ". I accepted with pleasure... Again, I did her in several positions and she looked quite pleased (or she was a very good actress).

After my 2nd pop, she again massaged me a bit and then the phone rang. Time was up... We dressed, and I went out, took my shower, and paid 698rmb at the reception. Very worth every penny!

Krisowens555
09-27-10, 17:49
All systems go at Heting last night around 9:30pm.

Not too crowded at all. Lineup of around 15 girls, range 6-8.

Chose 165 since my fave wasn't available (you can't have her number)

As usual, service VERY friendly. Multiple pops, DATY, BBBJ-CIM, AR,

And all kinds of other sensory delights.

After wasting my time Saturday at the overcrowded Judys Too and Manhattan and spending too much money on beers in a smoke filled environment, the predictable great service for 698 Yuan at Heting (night rate higher) was excellent.

I must say the the band at Judys Too was very good and more crowded than my last visit.

Anyway, if you haven't been to Heting, do yourself a favor and be pampered.

Top service, great attitude, and highly recommended.

Krisowens555
09-27-10, 17:55
I recall her getting dressed and walking out. Woke up next morning with a start. Opened the hotelroom safe and. She'd cleaned me out. I had about 4000 RMB, $100, GBP 150 in my wallet. All gone. She left all credit cards, watch and passport. In the bathroom she had swiped all my condoms, aftershave, razor and razor blades. *****! She must have seen me type the number combination of the safe. I felt so stupid! Kicked myself hard! Went back to Manhattans the next three nights but no sign of her.Hey Dutchmountain, don't kick yourself too hard.

To get good at this sport, you have to be ripped off by taxi drivers, working girls, and various internet schemes. You'll eventually become street smart and just laugh off the attempts.

Enjoy!

Member #4520
09-27-10, 20:54
First visit; took a while to find it because I didn't memorize the directions well. Once I found it it's quite easy. Walked in at 155am, line up of 3, took #255 tall, all right, wouldn't repeat, too much fake noises; you know what I mean. 676rmb after 90min and a quick walk back to the ICH via the dark-ass abandoned pedestrian mall. Heting is quite better, but couldn't beat the distance at this time of morning :).

Stay safe

Member #3444
09-28-10, 11:47
680RMB for 70 minutes, is the price fix? or still have to negotiate?

if so, should i ask the price first?

wanna give it a try someday.There was no discussion when I went there, all the fun conducted in the back part of the place, told me the price on the way out. No fuss, no muss.

Go try it tonight.

Member #3444
09-28-10, 11:50
First visit; took a while to find it because I didn't memorize the directions well. Once I found it it's quite easy. Walked in at 155am, line up of 3, took #255 tall, all right, wouldn't repeat, too much fake noises; you know what I mean. 676rmb after 90min and a quick walk back to the ICH via the dark-ass abandoned pedestrian mall. Heting is quite better, but couldn't beat the distance at this time of morning :).

Stay safe90 minutes or 70?

Phone rang at 70 minutes for me, I thought that was standard.

I am at the ICH this week too, how long does it take to get over to Heting?

Mike666
09-28-10, 12:55
First visit; took a while to find it because I didn't memorize the directions well. Once I found it it's quite easy. Walked in at 155am, line up of 3, took #255 tall, all right, wouldn't repeat, too much fake noises; you know what I mean. 676rmb after 90min and a quick walk back to the ICH via the dark-ass abandoned pedestrian mall. Heting is quite better, but couldn't beat the distance at this time of morning :).

Stay safe


Sounds like they jack up the price slightly but you get the full 90 mins. I guess it is ok. One of the girls, think is 590, has a set of nice big rack and goodish service. Don't know if she's still around.

Herry
09-28-10, 14:25
Guys, where is the heting elite location?

It seems interesting to me.

Is it safe to be there?

Pcpc1688
09-28-10, 16:32
Had to visit yesterday, 190 from Guanxi. Nice c cups, great ass, bbbj, msogs, no GFE though but thats was fine by me.

PC out

Pcpc1688
09-29-10, 00:27
90 minutes or 70?

Phone rang at 70 minutes for me, I thought that was standard.

I am at the ICH this week too, how long does it take to get over to Heting?

Take Line8 to Siping Rd. Walk up Siping road a couple blocks and look for a dark 3 story bldg with a neon flower on it. It will say Heting Elite.

PC out

Changer720
09-29-10, 04:40
I was just informed that if you can cross to one of the bordering counties of Shanghai, that the crackdown is no so much concerned about those areas. Going to to test the theory out tomorrow and will add a report when I know more.

Adventur
09-30-10, 04:47
I have tried searching the forum but I give up. Need your help.

I wil be in Marriott pudong in 2 weeks and am looking for a the usual BBS street. Not the 1000RMB 'sacrosas'! I can get those in LA!

Here is what I have found but cannot locate it on a map! Please add to the wikimapia.rg site if you can with tags like "girls, chicas, ladies, brohel, bbs. Etc". OR let me know better directions and I will help others.

Here is again what I found on the net.

A. There are a couple of good BBS at Ershan Lu in Pudong and farer outside near Longyang Lu Station of the Metro line 2. You need to take Byan lu (or so) from the Longyang Road and than the 3rd right. I think Feng. Road. BBBJ can be as low as RMB 100 (but than the place is quite run down and not so clean) (on Ershan Lu) and BJ with FS I get at the place near Longyang Lu at RMB 200 from a very pretty girl. It has 4 or 5 places.

B. When you go down Dongfang Road you will get to the junction with Zhangyang Road, turn left and keep walking. You will cross over a junction with the Merrylin Hotel on the left hand corner (also got a FS Sauna on the 5th floor but its pretty shit) and carry on to the next junction. Turn right and 1085 is set back from the road approx' 300m.

Thanks folks

FernandoAlonso
09-30-10, 13:08
Been going there for three years now but never had received such a terrible treatment. Told me to wait 20 minutes but kept me an hour in a terrible dirty small room with other all smoking customers. Then showed me four dogs which all looked away in panic from a foreigner. I declined and had to pay 88 rmb shower fee as they could not find any other girls to choose from. Unbelievable. Service had been already declining under new management but this was really the top of it. This used to be the best option in Pudong but I would really avoid this place!

Fa

BTW what is wrong with taxis in shanghai this time? Could not get one two and from Sacrosa at around 3pm in Pudong.

G Haribo
09-30-10, 16:24
Went again to Sacrosa today around 9pm. Was in operation and got the same girl as last time. She's a gem!! Perfect body and nice face. GF friendly. When she saw me, she looked very happy. The session was as usual, with massage of my ball at the end. And then 2nd pop. Just before I left, she gave me a long french kiss and asked me to come back.

Fast Eddie 48
09-30-10, 23:07
Been going there for three years now but never had received such a terrible treatment. Told me to wait 20 minutes but kept me an hour in a terrible dirty small room with other all smoking customers. Then showed me four dogs which all looked away in panic from a foreigner. I declined and had to pay 88 rmb shower fee as they could not find any other girls to choose from. Unbelievable. Service had been already declining under new management but this was really the top of it. This used to be the best option in Pudong but I would really avoid this place!

Fa

BTW what is wrong with taxis in shanghai this time? Could not get one two and from Sacrosa at around 3pm in Pudong.Fernando,

I was there a few week ago didn't pick any girl so I paid the facility fee also, this is a standard for most sauna in China after you shower and change you will be charge the min 88 rmb fee, but I talk to the manager I will go back tomorrow and he will discount me the 88 rmb and I when back the next day early and there are many hot girl.

Fast Eddie 48

Roquefort
10-01-10, 01:00
Went again to Sacrosa today around 9pm. Was in operation and got the same girl as last time. She's a gem!! Perfect body and nice face. GF friendly. When she saw me, she looked very happy. The session was as usual, with massage of my ball at the end. And then 2nd pop. Just before I left, she gave me a long french kiss and asked me to come back.GH, care to share the girl's number?

Genji88
10-01-10, 01:12
A friend of mine once told me she was at this bar and saw a lot of working girls.

Can anyone confirm that this is true? From what I hear, babyface is a big loud disco. How does it work approaching working girls at this place? What is the quality of them?

Chuckle One
10-01-10, 02:08
Been going there for three years now but never had received such a terrible treatment. Told me to wait 20 minutes but kept me an hour in a terrible dirty small room with other all smoking customers. I dropped by there yesterday as well around 5pm. Was told by the manager that they are very busy and it may be up to a 1 hr wait. He told me to try again after 7. Unfortunately dinner commitments kept me away. Does anyone know if they will be open on the National Holiday (today)

Also, on my way back to my hotel (st. Regis) i passed a building just beside the hotel with a large "Massage 2nd Fl" sign. Can anybody tell me if this is a legit or special establishment?

Member #3444
10-01-10, 02:56
BTW what is wrong with taxis in shanghai this time? Could not get one two and from Sacrosa at around 3pm in Pudong.It could be the start of the holiday, last night it was tough to get anywhere, many roads closed and taxi drivers not always interested in making the hard trips.

Member #3444
10-01-10, 02:59
I have tried searching the forum but I give up. Need your help.

I wil be in Marriott pudong in 2 weeks and am looking for a the usual BBS street. Not the 1000RMB 'sacrosas'! I can get those in LA!

Here is what I have found but cannot locate it on a map! Please add to the wikimapia.rg site if you can with tags like "girls, chicas, ladies, brohel, bbs. Etc". OR let me know better directions and I will help others.

Here is again what I found on the net.

A. There are a couple of good BBS at Ershan Lu in Pudong and farer outside near Longyang Lu Station of the Metro line 2. You need to take Byan lu (or so) from the Longyang Road and than the 3rd right. I think Feng. Road. BBBJ can be as low as RMB 100 (but than the place is quite run down and not so clean) (on Ershan Lu) and BJ with FS I get at the place near Longyang Lu at RMB 200 from a very pretty girl. It has 4 or 5 places.

B. When you go down Dongfang Road you will get to the junction with Zhangyang Road, turn left and keep walking. You will cross over a junction with the Merrylin Hotel on the left hand corner (also got a FS Sauna on the 5th floor but its pretty shit) and carry on to the next junction. Turn right and 1085 is set back from the road approx' 300m.

Thanks folksYour point "B" sounds like directions to Sacrosa, which is at 1085 Pudong Nan Lu. Sacrosa runs 676 RMB. Reviews seem to be mixed on what is available day to day at the BBS's

Ice Dragon
10-01-10, 03:26
I have tried searching the forum but I give up. Need your help.

I wil be in Marriott pudong in 2 weeks and am looking for a the usual BBS street. Not the 1000RMB 'sacrosas'! I can get those in LA!

Here is what I have found but cannot locate it on a map! Please add to the wikimapia.rg site if you can with tags like "girls, chicas, ladies, brohel, bbs. Etc". OR let me know better directions and I will help others.

Here is again what I found on the net.

A. There are a couple of good BBS at Ershan Lu in Pudong and farer outside near Longyang Lu Station of the Metro line 2. You need to take Byan lu (or so) from the Longyang Road and than the 3rd right. I think Feng. Road. BBBJ can be as low as RMB 100 (but than the place is quite run down and not so clean) (on Ershan Lu) and BJ with FS I get at the place near Longyang Lu at RMB 200 from a very pretty girl. It has 4 or 5 places.

B. When you go down Dongfang Road you will get to the junction with Zhangyang Road, turn left and keep walking. You will cross over a junction with the Merrylin Hotel on the left hand corner (also got a FS Sauna on the 5th floor but its pretty shit) and carry on to the next junction. Turn right and 1085 is set back from the road approx' 300m.

Thanks folksYour B. seems like a pretty good description of how to find Sacrosa!

Ice

Canyon
10-01-10, 03:44
G. Haribo,

How do you get to Sacrosa? What is the address? What was the girl's number? She sounds great. Thank you for any information you can provide.

G Haribo
10-01-10, 14:55
Hello Canyon,

We have to be careful in giving direction and address due to the crackdown. This website is now open in China, while in the past it was not possible to access.

I suggest that you try to find the direction reading the previous post.

In addition, I heard that they are trying not to accept too many foreigners as they want to keep the business discreet.


G. Haribo,

How do you get to Sacrosa? What is the address? What was the girl's number? She sounds great. Thank you for any information you can provide.

G Haribo
10-01-10, 15:06
Today, I repeated a visit to Heting and chose my Chongqing girl.

When she came to me, she gave me a big hug and then on the way to the room, she started to kissed me. What a nice welcome! Then we proceed to the room, and without waiting she undressed me, and started to BBJ me and asked me to take her right away. She was hot! This time, it was much better than the first time. I supposed because she knew I would be nice to her. After the first pop, she then massaged me, washed my dick and then did a very nice ball massage. I became hard again very fast and then wend to the 2nd round again. I popped up after several position and she slept under my arms until time was up.

Overall, I very nice session I will not forget.

Girl No 199
Lool: 8
BBJ: 10
Boobs: 8
FK: No
FS: 9
G/F: 9
Overall experience: 9
Damage: 697 rmb

Would repeat again!

Mike666
10-01-10, 17:58
I dropped by there yesterday as well around 5pm. Was told by the manager that they are very busy and it may be up to a 1 hr wait. He told me to try again after 7. Unfortunately dinner commitments kept me away. Does anyone know if they will be open on the National Holiday (today)

Also, on my way back to my hotel (st. Regis) i passed a building just beside the hotel with a large "Massage 2nd Fl" sign. Can anybody tell me if this is a legit or special establishment?

Saunas in general don't close. Not for national holiday, not even for CNY, only less girls and early closing for one day. It is pretty unusual for the manager to tell you to come back. Usually they want you to stay inside and wait it out. I guess they are getting so much business they don't give a shit anymore. Check the thread again, there should be another sauna without walking distance of sacrosa. No idea if it is still opened.

Mike666
10-01-10, 18:05
Been going there for three years now but never had received such a terrible treatment. Told me to wait 20 minutes but kept me an hour in a terrible dirty small room with other all smoking customers. Then showed me four dogs which all looked away in panic from a foreigner. I declined and had to pay 88 rmb shower fee as they could not find any other girls to choose from. Unbelievable. Service had been already declining under new management but this was really the top of it. This used to be the best option in Pudong but I would really avoid this place!

Fa

BTW what is wrong with taxis in shanghai this time? Could not get one two and from Sacrosa at around 3pm in Pudong.


Same experience, but almost a year ago. New management just came in then and the current madness was still a distance away. Staff used to be friendly and on the ball. Not so as the new staff didn't know nor care about your satisfaction. I should have told the front desk who I wanted but instead got one of the kids to do it for me. It was no problem before but this time I ended up waiting a solid hour in a smoke filled room with half a dozen punters. Was shown the kind of line up FA had. Ended up just leaving and had to folk out the 88 RMB.

Shaun Palmer
10-01-10, 19:18
Hey,

Went to try my first sauna today. I headed to feng din yuan club but once there I found it closed and let me very sad. I had to figure out another solution quickly as I really was in the mood for this activity tonight. Grab the first cab and went to hailang sauna.

Came in staff very friendly and then brought me to the changing room. Once ready I went to the shower and was surprised to be among a lot of Chinese naked dude. Quite awkward.

After the shower, they showed me a line of 15 very pretty girls. And I chose 978 who was such a beautiful girl with the perfect body imo. We went to the room, got undressed and then went to the shower. She washed my body and gave me head. Then we went to the bed and were ready for action. Body massage, she fucked my ass with her thongue, did the red rope thing and BJ again and then we had sex. It was a good experience. She was friendly but her english was inexistant and my Chinese limited and I am a bit disapointed about how she did her work. I know she 's not supposed to enjoy what she does everyday but she should fake it. Anyway, 780 yuans for 1 hour, a bit too much, staff very friendly and nice line.

Want to check out another place tomorrow.

G Haribo
10-02-10, 06:16
By the way, if you want to know, you can PM me now. I'll send you the info.


G. Haribo,

How do you get to Sacrosa? What is the address? What was the girl's number? She sounds great. Thank you for any information you can provide.

Pcpc1688
10-02-10, 11:17
Been going there for three years now but never had received such a terrible treatment. Told me to wait 20 minutes but kept me an hour in a terrible dirty small room with other all smoking customers. Then showed me four dogs which all looked away in panic from a foreigner. I declined and had to pay 88 rmb shower fee as they could not find any other girls to choose from. Unbelievable. Service had been already declining under new management but this was really the top of it. This used to be the best option in Pudong but I would really avoid this place!

Fa

BTW what is wrong with taxis in shanghai this time? Could not get one two and from Sacrosa at around 3pm in Pudong.


FA,

I have to concur with your report. I have been going there for 3+ yesars as well and the service etc from mgmt seems to be heading south. Although I had a good visit the last few times, I can see how it can go bad at the drop of the hat. for 550 though, its still a good value for the 90 mins provided the girl corporates, lol

PC out

Member #4520
10-02-10, 16:58
Sorry for the late reply, missed your note. From the ICH to Sacrosa is about 5-10 min walk. You just go straight out past the taxi area (main door) not out to the street, but rather down the stairs between the bushes. Turn right onto a double lane pedestrian walkway. That walkway goes all the way to Sacrosa, crossing one street along the way. Gets really dark in some areas but I still felt all safe doing the New York "I'm on a mission" walk through it :) After you cross the street it gets real dark, but you're just about there, entrance is around to the right. Search the forum, the google map is accurate in map-view but not satellite view.

Member #4520
10-02-10, 17:09
Visited Heting at the end of my trip here. #289, good attitude, 70 minutes 698 at 8pm. Heting was very easy to find from the nearby metro station. Up to the 3rd floor, change into robe, shower, dry off, back into robe, relax in chair a bit, off to lineup of like 20 (ugh so many), picked 289, off thru the maze to a room, nice room mirrors all around, bed, no bath/wet area, massage, partial cat bath until I got bored and stopped her, on to the fun stuff, BBBJ, cfs, multiple positions, finished doggy, relaxed, hot stones brought in, relaxed with massage, too tired (battling a cold) to do anything more, so just ran the clock out relaxing. Back to shower, into relaxing room, changed, paid, and out the door.

Nearly threw up on the taxi ride home due to the crazy taxi driver who only knew how to floor it, coast/idle, or slam the brakes. Oh gawd. Should have gotten out and gotten another taxi driver!

Stay safe

Member #4520
10-02-10, 17:11
When I mentioned in my other report that Heting was better than Sacrosa -- I made a mistake. I must have gone to Hailang my first time and that is still my favorite. So be clear, ranking IMHO: Hailang #1; Heting #2; Sacrosa #3. Hailang was the only one with soapy/nuru massage by the way. Pretty fun experience, much better than the cat-bath crap.

Wham39
10-04-10, 01:53
Rain has a posting in the classified section. I met with her in my hotel. She was attractive, tall, and had a nice body. To bad I was only in town for one nite.

I was in a 5 star hotel and she had no trouble fitting in based on dress and look. She was open to everything except "A" level that I asked about.

Hope this helps someone.

Applecrate
10-04-10, 06:55
bodi boutique business hotel: mega wet land sauna and nuru nuru inside

i've held off writing about this place because of all the fanfare associated with the expo in shanghai.

sauna places in shanghai that might have been considered to have too high a profile (merrylin, across from the intercontinental pudong; golden 18; shanghai hotel; or 999 just to name a few) started having potty opening patterns or were closed pending further notice.

may other locations have remained open and have either limited their service offerings to asians, or in the case of say, sacrosa / heting (same owner) have continued to operate.

it seems reasonable to think that if a sauna is "asked" to close, then the message will get delivered and they will comply.

accordingly, i've stopped trying to figure out why a place is open or closed. it either is, or it isn't.

***

recently there's been a lot of talk about the decline in service at sacrosa. i agree. it's just not what it used to be. with somewhere around 20 rooms and limited waiting areas, it's annoying to be told that the wait is 15 minutes and be sitting there an hour later -- especially in a smoke-filled room.

with 999 being temporarily out of play, and the shanghai hotel downstairs (wet-lands) uncertain, many fans and first-timers to the world of nuru nuru wet land slip-and-slide have had limited choices.

until now.

it's seems like it's time to talk about a place that's been around a while, but not discussed on these boards. or, if it has been, i missed it during a forum search.

***
just to clarify: i get no perks or benefits from bodi boutique hotel or the sauna for writing this report. i'm not a shill for this place. nor am i some kind of promoter. to be sure, i believe i wrote the first report on heting shortly after it opened. (i found out about heting from a random visit to sacrosa and was a given a discount coupon back then.) when i wrote that report, i was new to the forum and used a level of detail that could have been construed as promotion. it was not intended that way. accordingly, the commentary that follows is intended to be descriptive, and nothing more.

***

bodi boutique business hotel
http://www.bodiboutiquehotel.com/

tel: +86 21 6163 3333
fax: +86 21 6163 6276
email:info@bodiboutiquehotel.com
add: no. 1245 longyang road
pudong new district, shanghai 200127, p. r. china.

for geographical reference, it is located not far from century park in pudong.
no more than 5-10 minutes by taxi from the sofitel jin jiang oriental, pudong at 889 yang gao nan lu

this place is better described as a massive sauna complex wrapped in a boutique business hotel. to the average onlooker – or guest – you see nothing more that a trendy boutique hotel with relatively high room prices. ground floor has a very cool little bar that not normally crowded, somewhat quiet, and not normally filled with smoke. the reception desk is just that: a desk over to the right side of the lobby.

the somewhat-trained monger-eye would notice something a little bit interesting: the hotel lobby sign that calls out locations of the hotel's rooms, gym, and other facilities does not have any thing listed on the 2nd floor. a quick trip up the staircase to the right and one finds nothing more that a stair well that continues upward and a pair of locked unmarked doors on what should be the second floor. walking back down to the lobby – and looking upward- there is in fact a high ceiling that could easily extend to second-floor height. it's entirely possible that floor two is office space for administrative staff and cleaning crews.

but, the monger's mental radar continues flashing. at which point a quick question is in order for the door guy.

yep. monger radar correct: there is a sauna, and the entrance is outside the building on the front left (off to the side from the main entrance). there are no signs or other markings. note: you cannot access the sauna from inside the hotel lobby or its elevators.

inside you'll find a reception desk where they'll ask if you want massage. if yes, price is 780 rmb for 90 minutes.

changing area is very nice and quite clean. shower area is large, with individual semi-circular shower stalls that are hand tiled. locker attendants are helpful but not overbearing. all the products they have on had are fleshly stocked and clean. (not rather lame in places like 968 sauna on pudong avenue across from the office bar.) they have very large dry sauna that is, well, one of largest i've seen. most places have smaller dry saunas, but not this place. in fact, the entire shower / dry sauna area layout is expansive. you don't feel cramped, rushed, or prodded and pushed around like a cattle drive, as sometimes happens at sacrosa.

following the shower they have a platform (built up wooden floor) dry off area which works quite well. pajamas are issued and away you go…down the stairs.

after descending the stairs you quickly realize that you're in a massive below-ground rest area. huge is an understatement. probably 20-25 resting rooms. each with no more than three lounge chairs. big tv on the wall. the hallway must be 50 meters long. there are two, perhaps thee service counters along the length of the hallway. it is not crowded, as they can spread the guests along the length of the hallway.

after ordering a tea, i chatted with the hammer commander who is from dongbei. he's friendly guy who has been in shanghai for six years and had a lot of interesting insight on all things local. (note: unlike bob at heting, he speaks no english.)

after our chat we proceeded down the hall to far end where he paused and took out a secure key card and slid it through the lock activator. green light…go! door swings open and….big line up of girls. probably 35-40. big fucking room that's bright and well lit. it's packed with girls along the back wall. though i can't prove it, i be willing to wager that some of these girls are form 999, though it's only a (slightly educated) guess.

many different outfits on the girls. there was no standard uniform. . i picked a girl who looked like a slutty librarian dressed in a kind of leopard spot outfit. had the glasses to match the look and all. (she was 581 and turned out to provide average service as she was rather process driven. next time, i'll try someone new, as there are many to chose from.)

following the selection phase, we took a few steps to a nearby elevator. rather small, but well decorated for such a private looking elevator. she hits the button and…what do you know…2nd floor! you guessed it…the entire second floor of the boutique hotel is a massive nuru nuru wet lands. couldn't even see to the end of the hallway (maybe i needed glasses.) there must be 40 or more wet rooms. it's the biggest wet lands that i've seen. bar none. the rooms are big compared to 999, and seem to be equal to or slightly larger than the rooms at golden 18. slippy-slide table, shower, split bottom chair, in-room water container, big bed in the dry area with mirrored ceiling, and all the rest. (didn't see red rope bars for all you inverted-helicopter aficionados, but...maybe in another room.) and…it was clean. did not look worn or dirty at all, at least not the room i had.

no need for a fully detailed blow-by-blow of the wet area service ...but...then again... the service followed a standard wet lands format, e.g., shower, sit on the cracked-ass stool, space probe of your leather cheerio (bung hole wash with her index finder), lay plastic on table using tag-team approach to save time and speed things along, break out the nuru nuru happy liquid and play "slide for life" with enough gel for a sumo wrestler, hard-grind pussy scrub, repeat hard-grind pussy scrub (need to feel the tingling), pussy straddle scrub on each leg, a.k.a, ride the stick pony, ride up and down ass mountain several times, ass squiggle on back, grip-and-flip over, more "slide for life", face-to-face action with simulated canyon glide, nipple lick'n, dick sucking, a round of "69 and try to grab that ass", followed by wash off and shift to dry area.

standard stuff in the dry zone from head-to-toe, hard-dick blow, put a sock on the pickle, and mount & go. pop til you drop...or until time is up.

after session ended, back to the in–room (wet land) shower, towel off, and head down the very long hallway. back down to the locker room / shower area where you can shower again if you like, use the sauna area, or if time permits, head back down the stairs to the massive rest area.

again, total damage was 780 rmb for a trip to the wet lands that was un-crowded and comfortable because you could navigate the process at your own pace.

in summary, this is a well-conceived place. it still reminds me of a massive sauna wrapped in a boutique hotel, but then again, they do have very trendy (and high priced) rooms if you like that kind of place for your stay in shanghai (as opposed to the big traditional 5 star hotels).

given all the closings and lack of wet land opportunities, this place is worth a try. one thing for sure, you won't have to wait in a smoke filled room for an hour with other punters like has been happening recently at sacrosa.

FernandoAlonso
10-04-10, 06:55
Pc

Thank you, fully agree. Maybe my expectations are getting too high having so many comparisons but will never forget my first tome there. We still meet when I am in Sh even though she left a long time. Still having a good time always. BTW since when did they change to 90 minutes?

On a side note Ms is full these days you can hardly walk in. Quality is mixed as my good friends visiting with me will concur. Miss your report Billy! I took a Viet two days later when coming back. Best service in a long time but you need to manage them of course wanted to jump ship after the first pop while two were agreed. We compromised on three everyone satisfied. Enhanced security due to October first and President visit was no problem.

Fa


FA,

I have to concur with your report. I have been going there for 3+ yesars as well and the service etc from mgmt seems to be heading south. Although I had a good visit the last few times, I can see how it can go bad at the drop of the hat. for 550 though, its still a good value for the 90 mins provided the girl corporates, lol

PC out

Tasss
10-04-10, 09:43
Gonna give you guys a break from all the Heting/Sacrosa/Manhattan reports, seems like no one's venturing out anymore. But anyway I can't mention the name of this place, other than to say that it's a hotel + sauna that been reported on ISG before. I went there last year, but now, probably due to the crackdown, its services have gone dark except for those they trust. I booked a room in the hotel for several weeks and for the first two weeks, every time I attempted to get into their sauna, they say it's under renovation. I even pointed out that I'm a hotel guest. During these weeks I was able to check out other sites, some mentioned on ISG, some not. A place called Rehai offered roleplay rooms if anyone is interested in that (like jail, office, hospital, Min-ethnic tribe village). The girls are dressed according to the room's theme and not all girls do these themed services. Obviously, you need to speak Chinese to take advantage of the roleplaying, otherwise, you have no idea what they're saying.

Anyways the last week of my stay in Shanghai, I checked out the sauna in my hotel again. Like before, a few dudes were playing mahjong or cards at a table near the counter, apparently not receiving any customers, and I asked if the sauna is still closed. I was going to hit another sauna if it still was. One guy recognized me as a hotel guest and asked me if I can pay the bill up front. Normally the bill's paid after the fact, but I decided to fork over the 600+. They brought me up to the elevator, and then to a corner room on that floor. The guy knocked and there were about 6 girls in various states of readiness in the room. I picked the only one who seemed to be completely ready and not sleepy. And having makeup already on, she looked about 8/10. The guy then led me to a makeshift "sauna" in a separate room, but then remembered I have my hotel guest room, which was better than the room I was shown. The girl, who was 18, came with me and we chatted for a bit before I asked her to take a shower with me. She was originally from Heilongjiang province and was quite shy since she's new. Really great eyes, a typical Chinese body, smooth white skin but her face was the best part about her. Following the shower, she started to perform a weak BBBJ. I told her to stop as it wasn't very good, and she gets on top of me and rides me while I held her petite frame on top of me. After pumping her from underneath, I laid her back and plowed her while kneeling and grabbing her tits, finishing inside of her. Gave her 200 as a tip for being a good sport about the shower thing which she most likely hadn't ever done before.

Chill Out
10-04-10, 11:36
Thanks for the detailed report, Applecrate, much appreciated.

Just to clarify, can you cut all the scrubbing stuff out and simply go for sex at this place, or not? I personally do not care for all the washing (besides simple showering) and scrubbing and sliding. I do P4P for sex.

Applecrate
10-04-10, 18:17
Thanks for the detailed report, Applecrate, much appreciated.

Just to clarify, can you cut all the scrubbing stuff out and simply go for sex at this place, or not? I personally do not care for all the washing (besides simple showering) and scrubbing and sliding. I do P4P for sex.Though I've not tried without the Nuru Nuru, I'm nearly certain that you could easily do the initial shower with the girl and move straight to the bed. It's a lot less work for the girl to skip the slip-and-slide. Accordingly, I'd bet there's no worries on the shower-to-bed scenario.

Carage
10-05-10, 01:40
Bodi Boutique Business Hotel: Mega Wet Land Sauna and Nuru Nuru InsideGreat review. I've frequented this place a lot since March.

I've considered writing about this place as well, but from chats with the management and the ladies, I was actually told they like to keep things quiet as to not attract undue attention. I guess the cat's out of the bag now.

Initially, the place was only in the know to old 999 patrons who got turned down at the gate. (I never knew about the place until one night in March or so, where I was turned down at 999 due to "internal water leakage inspection". The manager gave me a card hailed a cab for me, and told the driver to take me to Bodi.)

For starters, this place is not easy to access. Some drivers would simply tell you that that Longyang and Jinxiu East simply don't cross in this area. But if you mention to the driver it is next to a Saab 4s store, then most taxi drivers from Pudong will know what you are talking about. This is a generalization from my experience.

Service from this place is usually superb, and the best thing about it is almost minimal waiting time, and you are almost always given an exclusive resting room. However, there were signs that this place is getting more and more popular toward July. The last time I've been there was the end of July.

Carage
10-05-10, 01:44
Thanks for the detailed report, Applecrate, much appreciated.

Just to clarify, can you cut all the scrubbing stuff out and simply go for sex at this place, or not? I personally do not care for all the washing (besides simple showering) and scrubbing and sliding. I do P4P for sex.Well, yes. You can always tell the lady that you don't like the wet massage and you have showered downstairs (if you don't mention this, she will insist to give you a quick shower again).

Then there is more action time for you.

BTW, what is P4P?

Canyon
10-05-10, 05:38
Applecrate:

Thank you very much for the great report! Keep up the good work. Don't worry about being called a promoter. Your report was very factual and useful. We appreciate your great reporting skills.

Canyon

Eaglestar
10-05-10, 18:58
BTW, what is P4P?

Try here

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897

Pcpc1688
10-05-10, 22:59
Pc

Thank you, fully agree. Maybe my expectations are getting too high having so many comparisons but will never forget my first tome there. We still meet when I am in Sh even though she left a long time. Still having a good time always. BTW since when did they change to 90 minutes?

On a side note Ms is full these days you can hardly walk in. Quality is mixed as my good friends visiting with me will concur. Miss your report Billy! I took a Viet two days later when coming back. Best service in a long time but you need to manage them of course wanted to jump ship after the first pop while two were agreed. We compromised on three everyone satisfied. Enhanced security due to October first and President visit was no problem.

Fa


FA,

Time has always been 70-90 mins. They give you that 20 minute window at the end always. Seems like if you click, take the extra 20, if you dont then take the 70 mins. Last time we were at 88 mins since I finished twice and I was ready to go.

PC out

Shaun Palmer
10-06-10, 01:58
Went out again yesterday night. Went to the sauna where I took two girls. Two perfect fucking bodies. Two girls very friendly and highly motivated. It was a new experience but wow, that is the best thing ever.

Cooler Wolf2
10-06-10, 05:07
Rain has a posting in the classified section. I met with her in my hotel. She was attractive, tall, and had a nice body. To bad I was only in town for one nite.

I was in a 5 star hotel and she had no trouble fitting in based on dress and look. She was open to everything except "A" level that I asked about.

Hope this helps someone.

I just hope you weren't conned into paying 4,000RMB LT.

I know, these girls are playing to the BSD's or tourists with no local knowledge ... but 4,000RMB? Nuts!

Tasss
10-06-10, 07:00
Kudos on venturing out. Where is this Rehai you talked about? A simple search on Baidu returned several with similar names. Is it located in Xuhui district?That's correct. On Google maps search for Yushengfang Rehai, Xuhui, Shanghai, China. From the line 9 subway station there, walk south, it's one of the first buildings on the left side of the road as you walk towards Xietu Rd. I sincerely hope that only Chinese speakers decide to go since the more non-locals = more risk for the sauna. Or go after the Expo.

Tasss
10-06-10, 08:41
That's correct. On Google maps search for Yushengfang Rehai, Xuhui, Shanghai, China. From the line 9 subway station there, walk south, it's one of the first buildings on the left side of the road as you walk towards Xietu Rd. I sincerely hope that only Chinese speakers decide to go since the more non-locals = more risk for the sauna. Or go after the Expo.Right side, sorry, not left. G maps doesn't mess up like I do.

Wysoh
10-06-10, 11:40
Will be heading to Shanghai in a week.

Has anyone been to G18 or 999 lately?

Thanks!

Ronin500
10-06-10, 12:46
Hey all.

First night back in Shanghai decided to go to Tongren Lu for some take-away. First stop was Malones but it was totally dead, just a dozen guys watching football (soccer) and 1-2 filipinos with their bfs.

Walked down the street and found all the Tongren Lu bars closed. Now what? Plan B. Took a taxi over to Xian Tian Di and walked around a bit. A few Chinese girls made eye contact but I kept walking. In and out of Paulaner, nada. Then noticed 2 girls with a ladyboy, all 3 Thai. 2 girls were nice looking so I went and talked to the smaller of the 2. Decided to go for a drink, which we did and then I took her back to my place for all-night.

She was 25 and loved sex so popped as many times as I wanted. She stayed until about 10 the next morning and we fcuked before she left; her idea. Total damage was 1000rmb. She said she would have charged me 2000rmb if I hadn't bought her a drink first or if I acted like a cheapskate.

Also, she told me many girls now going to Zapatas. Maybe I'll try that out but first I'm going to go to Manhattan and see how that is.

One other night walking around Pudong near Xiangcheng Lu there are tons of massage places. Went in one just because I miss getting a cheap massage. Girl was so-so 6/10. Thought it would be massage and maybe happy ending but first thing she did, while I was on my back, was start with a tongue massage. Negotiated a BJ with her for 500rmb (I know it's a rip-off but I wanted to try her out) because she said it would be really good. First she got out a roll of saranwrap to wrap my dick. That's a first for me. Then she did the BJ. The saran wrap didn't stay on so it was BBBJ but just so-so, no CIM.

Smorb 27
10-06-10, 15:35
Just got back from Peacock which is now called "Warmth" or something. Peacock, if you recall, is that 300rmb prostata-massage oily-handjob place on Xietu Lu which was quite popular, then closed down. Now it's open.

It's still 300rmb, but the place looks totally different from before. Rooms are smaller, (even) more shabby and now have small windows. While they used to have pretty girls at Peacok, mine today wasn't pretty at all. But then, when she's sitting behind you with your legs lifted up and she's massaging your ass and balls from behind, with your ass wide open, it doesn't quite matter how she looks.

The procedure is the same as before. You shower while the girl is in the room preparing the bed. You put on a plastic trouser and get a normal massage for like 20 minutes. She then takes off the trouser and does the prostate massage from behind. Then you turn around and she spends the rest of the time giving you a nice oily handjob. I've had some of the best oily handjobs there ever - better than you can do it yourself, and today's was great as well.

Anyway. It was my very last visit to Peacok for sure, and here' why: While she gave me the HJ she asked me if we have this kind of massage in Europe. I said no, but we have Prostitution. She knew it's legal in my country, and then started talking about how it's now illegal in China. She kept on talking, explaining me that what we where doing right now is illegal (wei fa), and that police is getting very strict. And then, bummer, did she tell me that Police actually checks this place almost every day. Not the last two days, and not yet today, but usually they come in almost daily. She told me clients have been taking to the police station and penalty for them was 5.000 rmb. She explained that her boss is sitting upstairs and gives her some warning if police comes in, which should leave enough time to put on some trousers and make it look like a normal massage. But it doesn't always work. She herself said a few times that this is actually very dangerous. Not something you want to hear when you get a handjob, lying naked on a massage table.

The 5.000 rmb is for locals, she said. She didn't know how much it's for foreigner. I would guess it's more than what locals pay. I would take a wild guess and say 5.000 rmb for locals equals 10k and deportation for foreigner.

I stopped doing fs places a while ago. But I didn't know that a normal HJ massage is so dangerous and that police is so after this.

Has anyone actually had any experience with police at HJ massage places.

Money11
10-06-10, 19:34
I will be staying at The Westin on The Bund and am new to the saunas. I have always gone to the Craigslist approach and had girls come to my room or used the hotel massaues to massage me in the room and get extras. Does anyone have any good one I can call for this service? Anyopne ever stayeed at Westin on bubd abd gottten action in the hotel?

Regarding saunas, it seems fasinating, are there any good saunas near the Bund that provide massage services and extras. Thanks for your help guys, this blog is a god send. I will offer up my reports during my visit.

Money11
10-06-10, 19:47
I have been to China around 20 times and have used Craigslist, hotels and Manhattan club for my enjoyment. All have had mixed success. Does anyone have a legitimate lead for a girl who will come to my hotel room for massage and extras? Also what about the Westin on The Bund, any activity in the hotel bar? I have stayed at THe Portman many times and Susan runs that bar as far as fun girls any saunas nearby this hotel.

I have read relgiously all of the decriptions an just want to know some great saunas to go to near The Bund that are good quality and reasonable price. Thanks for all of your help, I am heading out to Shanghai in 2 weeks an dwill use all of yth einformation you provide.

Passepartout
10-06-10, 21:53
Hey guys,

I will be back to SH soon and want to hit some hot places like Heting/Hailang.

Anybody interested in going together?

i will be in shanghai this saturday for a week, ready for actions

PM me if you want to go out

Wham39
10-07-10, 07:48
I just hope you weren't conned into paying 4,000RMB LT. I know, these girls are playing to the BSD's or tourists with no local knowledge ... but 4,000RMB? Nuts!I had one day in Shanghai on business. I didn't do the LT, but it wasn't cheap either by any means. I knew what I was getting into and she met my needs.

If I had more time I would have spent the day driving around trying to find an open sauna or a club chick that was dressed appropriately to go to the hotel I was in.

S1066
10-08-10, 04:34
Some MPs still subject to black out, they will appear closed, but if no police around they will come out and let you in. In my opinion if the authorities totally wanted to close them down, they would have by now, but certainly the situation is still in uncharted territory, also I wouldn't be surprised if they were monitoring this column, so these are dark days, careless talk costs lives. Anyway, there are still many freelance workers around, you don't have to look far, so if you want full service, then MPs are not the place for you. Routine authority checks are frequent, if you are in a MP when they visit, keep calm and your shorts on and you should be OK. This has been happening for a long time, not just during this clamp down.

Amadeuss
10-08-10, 04:37
Is that row of BBS still operationg -- or closed?

I did visit it some 4 years ago

Shaun Palmer
10-08-10, 15:34
Don't you guys think that many of the places we are talking about here are well-known from the authorities? Don't you think that if they really wanted to close these kind of sauna where FS is provided, they would have done it by now?

Don't you think that sauna and sex is a huge business in shanghai, with so much money in it? Don't you think that these kind of places are owned by important people having guanxi enough to run them smoothly?

I am just asking because when I go to a sauna, I can see there so many customers and they don't seem to freak out as much as we do here, as well as the workers there.

When I see that a well known sauna in shanghai where FS is provided, is located right in a shopping center, I feel like how could the authorities not be aware of that?

Yesterday night I went to a massage place which is quite easy to find with lots of lights in one of the biggest street of shanghai, and got a HJ pretty easily and it didn't seem to make the girl feel uncomfortable.

Maybe writing this is just a way to make me feel more comfortable and to try to stop freaking out.

What do we really know about "this" crackdown?

Carage
10-08-10, 20:36
What do we really know about "this" crackdown?Well, here is what I can tell you from what I heard from my friends.

Even places where are very visible, which you assume to have enough "guanxi" to coexist peacefully with law enforcement, would still occasionally run into trouble.

Sometimes this is due to jurisdictional concerns. Guess what brought down the glorious Ji Yuan group overnight? Yes, they probably paid off all the local police stations. But Shanghai has more than 1 district, and strangely enough, some of the more important roads in Shanghai are being covered by more than one jurisdiction. The word on the street is that they were raided by a different precinct which they thought didn't cover their area. The alternative theory is that the competition paid off the other district to do the raid.

High ranking police officers are often political appointees that could change overnight. So paying once doesn't protect you forever, and it is possible that there are some who won't take the money.

Even places that seem to maintain good relationships with the cops are subject to occasional raids when the cops need to make numbers. One of my favorite ladies quit from 999 because she was almost busted during a unannounced inspection. My client's boss, a Malaysian Chinese, spent 4 days in jail when he was caught during a raid at Southern. (He paid 50,000 RMB to get him out of that cell and make the arrest record disappear)

Mike921
10-09-10, 00:31
Don't you guys think that many of the places we are talking about here are well-known from the authorities? Don't you think that if they really wanted to close these kind of sauna where FS is provided, they would have done it by now?

Don't you think that sauna and sex is a huge business in shanghai, with so much money in it? Don't you think that these kind of places are owned by important people having guanxi enough to run them smoothly?

I am just asking because when I go to a sauna, I can see there so many customers and they don't seem to freak out as much as we do here, as well as the workers there.

When I see that a well known sauna in shanghai where FS is provided, is located right in a shopping center, I feel like how could the authorities not be aware of that?

Yesterday night I went to a massage place which is quite easy to find with lots of lights in one of the biggest street of shanghai, and got a HJ pretty easily and it didn't seem to make the girl feel uncomfortable.

Maybe writing this is just a way to make me feel more comfortable and to try to stop freaking out.

What do we really know about "this" crackdown?

Agree 100%, the authorities know what's going on everywhere. No need to 'monitor' ISG, laoweis, or any other such things. I actually live here, and you know, for every block, there is usually one (or more) person who 'monitors' what's going on so believe me, LE knows who/what/where. I would be shocked if LE was learning anything new from this forum.

Nightwing88
10-09-10, 00:40
After Applecrate's awesome description of Bodi, I had to try it out. It is everything as described by AC. A couple more points...

1. We drove out to Bodi and parked the car out back. The car was initially parked in the first level of a three level parking structure. When we finished our session, we came back out and was surprised to find the car hanging at the top level of the structure. But, no worries, the attendent pressed a button and cars moved out of the way and the car slowly came back down. It's interesting how these "car elevators" work, and you should check it out sometime!

2. Bodi opens doors at 12:00PM. However, business really begins at around 1:30PM. If you show up around 1:00PM, take a leisurely shower and then head downstairs, you're doing great on time.

3. The place is huge! You go downstairs and get put into a private resting area. After watching a little TV and getting a drink, the manager takes you through a maze of rooms to the staging area where about 40 girls are waiting for you. I had number 591, whose first comment to me when I saw her was... "I'm wet". However, if you are a first-timer, do yourself a favor and don't preselect a number. Your little brother will appreciate choosing one of so many lucky mei-mei's.

4. Took an elevator upstairs to 2nd floor and proceeded with all the activities as AC mentioned. 591 offerred to bring in a second girl for 400 RMB extra. (I declined). There was no red rope service in the room I had.

5. Total damage: 780 RMB. Plus, they give fapiao too.

Try it out, it's a winner. Thanks to Applecrate for introducing me to a great sauna for the second time (first was Heting)!

Nightwing

Levitian
10-09-10, 01:15
Is that row of BBS still operationg -- or closed?

I did visit it some 4 years ago

So very dead and gone, you won't believe it. The whole area got a complete tip-to-toe facelift and redone, and, man, what a change ...

Levitian

Carage
10-09-10, 04:37
5. Total damage: 780 RMB. Plus, they give fapiao too.

Try it out, it's a winner. Thanks to Applecrate for introducing me to a great sauna for the second time (first was Heting)!

NightwingOne more note, which might be important to some one:

If you use your credit card, the charge will appear as some investment firm on your billing statement.

Levitian
10-09-10, 07:17
http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/chinese-girls-with-without-their-makeup.html

Outch!
Look out, especially in CL!

Levitian

BionicMan
10-09-10, 07:37
http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/chinese-girls-with-without-their-makeup.html

Outch!
Look out, especially in CL!

Levitian
So you go to' bed with the one on the right and you wake up with the one on the left.... That means the nightmare comes after the sleep!

Levitian
10-09-10, 08:31
So you go to' bed with the one on the right and you wake up with the one on the left.... That means the nightmare comes after the sleep!

The real nightmare: you got awake, go to the toilet, look into the mirror and find this little string hanging out or your mouth, and you only can pray "oh God, let it be a tea bag!"

Levitian

Miller Man
10-09-10, 09:04
Damn! I was jut reading the start of this and thinking. I'm heading to this place tomorrow! I'm in search of a great prostate massage. Never had one and keen for the new experience. However it seems this one is too risky and as a foreigner I fear the possible consequences. Cha ching cha ching.

I know there are prostate massage places listed in the threads. But if anyone knows any unlisted ones that have been used recently and get the nod. Then let me know.

Cheers!


Just got back from Peacock which is now called "Warmth" or something. Peacock, if you recall, is that 300rmb prostata-massage oily-handjob place on Xietu Lu which was quite popular, then closed down. Now it's open.

It's still 300rmb, but the place looks totally different from before. Rooms are smaller, (even) more shabby and now have small windows. While they used to have pretty girls at Peacok, mine today wasn't pretty at all. But then, when she's sitting behind you with your legs lifted up and she's massaging your ass and balls from behind, with your ass wide open, it doesn't quite matter how she looks.

The procedure is the same as before. You shower while the girl is in the room preparing the bed. You put on a plastic trouser and get a normal massage for like 20 minutes. She then takes off the trouser and does the prostate massage from behind. Then you turn around and she spends the rest of the time giving you a nice oily handjob. I've had some of the best oily handjobs there ever - better than you can do it yourself, and today's was great as well.

Anyway. It was my very last visit to Peacok for sure, and here' why: While she gave me the HJ she asked me if we have this kind of massage in Europe. I said no, but we have Prostitution. She knew it's legal in my country, and then started talking about how it's now illegal in China. She kept on talking, explaining me that what we where doing right now is illegal (wei fa), and that police is getting very strict. And then, bummer, did she tell me that Police actually checks this place almost every day. Not the last two days, and not yet today, but usually they come in almost daily. She told me clients have been taking to the police station and penalty for them was 5.000 rmb. She explained that her boss is sitting upstairs and gives her some warning if police comes in, which should leave enough time to put on some trousers and make it look like a normal massage. But it doesn't always work. She herself said a few times that this is actually very dangerous. Not something you want to hear when you get a handjob, lying naked on a massage table.

The 5.000 rmb is for locals, she said. She didn't know how much it's for foreigner. I would guess it's more than what locals pay. I would take a wild guess and say 5.000 rmb for locals equals 10k and deportation for foreigner.

I stopped doing fs places a while ago. But I didn't know that a normal HJ massage is so dangerous and that police is so after this.

Has anyone actually had any experience with police at HJ massage places.

Blacklisted
10-09-10, 10:59
So very dead and gone, you won't believe it. The whole area got a complete tip-to-toe facelift and redone, and, man, what a change ...

Levitian


You won't find anything from 4 years ago in operation. Completely new thinking required on the SH Mongering scene these days. Other than saunas and Manhatten et all, the BBS scene has moved to the outskirts of the city.

The Village is now a rather nice apartment complex, reminiscent of Beverley Hills.

Blacklisted
10-09-10, 11:03
The real nightmare: you got awake, go to the toilet, look into the mirror and find this little string hanging out or your mouth, and you only can pray "oh God, let it be a tea bag!"

Levitian

keep in mind, isn't China Smack set up and run by fugly western women? I'd like to see their before and afters... Ugly as fuck before, absolutley pig disgusting after.

At leat these chicks look super cute after being PS'd and made over!

Shaun Palmer
10-09-10, 17:48
I went to heting around 10: 30pm today. When I arrived they said to me that there was no business today. They gave me their card and told me to call tomorrow.

It was the first time for me there. Do you think there really was no business? Or they just don't like the idea to have new clients lately, especially laowai?

Jarodmeng
10-09-10, 18:52
Hey Passepartout, glad to find some fun. I couldn't PM so if you can send a note to [Email address deleted by Admin] will be super.


i will be in shanghai this saturday for a week, ready for actions

PM me if you want to go out

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

Genji88
10-10-10, 00:15
Hi,

I'm looking for an upscale escort service in shanghai. Kinda tired of the KTVs in SH. Find them somewhat tricky for a occasional visitor as often the girls are not for takeout.

I'd be interested in any bars that often have more presentable Chinese working girls. Or any outcall agencies that would have the same. I stay in 5 star hotels, so it would be nice to have someone that it wasn't too embarassing to be seen with and take out to dinner etc.

Appreciate any advice you guys might have.

Amadeuss
10-10-10, 05:36
So very dead and gone, you won't believe it. The whole area got a complete tip-to-toe facelift and redone, and, man, what a change ...

Levitian

Sad sad... then all my previous adresses and old infos here on the board on this low scale cheap charlie places seems to be useless.

Any BBS area in operation nowadays?

Koko1177
10-10-10, 10:47
Hi everyone.

I'm a big fan of peacock here and as we all noticed that this place is closed because of the expo.

I read that some of you wrote that this place is still open but under new name?

Can you please tell me the detail direction to it

Or Can anyone please reccomend any prostate massage in SH?

Thank you

Waldeck2
10-11-10, 06:33
For whatever reason, and we don't know many of them, saunas shut down now and then -- for a day a week or a month. Call them and they will tell you if they are open. Call the manager at any sauna before you go. Saves a trip.


I went to heting around 10: 30pm today. When I arrived they said to me that there was no business today. They gave me their card and told me to call tomorrow.

It was the first time for me there. Do you think there really was no business? Or they just don't like the idea to have new clients lately, especially laowai?

Miller Man
10-11-10, 07:18
Anyone know anything about a place in Xujiahui called 7M?

Supposed to be some type of sauna?

details appreciated - it's a stone's throw and could become way too convenient!

Five Aces
10-11-10, 08:18
My original report:

"Re: Massage places near Radisson Hotel (Nanjing Road)

I went to the massage place behind the Radisson twice in the last week to help with jet lag. I don't have them pegged for FS. They give excellent massage and are probably quick enough to add a happy ending.

But. They have a sign on the wall to the effect that they are giving straight massage only, at least for a while (My interpretation, I can't read chinese.). Their real menu has the same item for 100 rmb more but you can't get that. Do the math."

I found the sign in English today. The 200 rmb price is an Expo special and the normal price is 380. I have been several times with 2 attendands and there was never an upsell from straight massage. Sorry for the misinformation.

Applecrate
10-11-10, 13:00
Hi,

I'd be interested in any bars that often have more presentable Chinese working girls. Or any outcall agencies that would have the same. I stay in 5 star hotels, so it would be nice to have someone that it wasn't too embarassing to be seen with and take out to dinner etc.

Appreciate any advice you guys might have.I have a very rich German friend who is in his mid-thirties. He has never needed money, nor will he ever need any. It's just no object for this guy.

He has mongered worldwide, to include moving to various countries for periods of up to two years so he can whet his appetite.

Benchmark: Here is a link (not to a competitive site to ISG) that some would say represents a high class escort. It's the kind of girl he might fly into Macau for three days of gambling at the Paiza Club at the Venetian. Or for a week or two in the Maldives. He might even have a pair of them flown in.

http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/munich/gallery/claire/profile

The pricing for something like this is astronomical. And I'm not sure if any pussy is worth that much money. (Unless, of course, money is truly no object.) Candidly, I cannot relate to this kind of high-class escort mongering.

That having been said, I've not found anything in Shanghai that is close to this. Or for that matter even "far" from this.

The "real deal" high class escort is not something that you easily find here. If it does exist...and I'll bet it does...then it's probably very private. I'm not aware of any networked corporate services like this in Shanghai.

The closest I've seen to high-end take out is at the bat in the Shanghai World Financial Center. Under the right conditions (they trust you, know you, and you ask for some overnight company) the staff just might have the phone numbers of some high-end treats. Probably will be Russian or Easter European. Not Chinese. This is not surprising given the wealthy clientčle in the building.

But as for high-end Chinese, I'm not sure they have that.

A theory...and it's only a theory. The best of the best Chinese girls can become the second wives of the wealthy Chinese. They don't have to learn English if they are second wives. They have mega cash flowing to them and don't have to worry about much else, except looking like yummy arm candy when she's with her money-man and he's showing her off to his friends. Kind of like a nice car, watch, or other accessory.

Note: My rich German friend used to call these girls a "Plaza 66 B***h". He had one of these who was a Thai girl living in Shanghai. That lasted about a year until she burned through a $100k in shopping at 66 and then got stingy with the sex. Go figure. But I digress.

Back to the second wife thing. That's my theory as to why you don't see a lot of super-hot Chinese high-end call girls. They have another avenue to the cash.

Below, is a cut-and -paste post from Wikipedia that is somewhat helpful. It a broad context it categorizes the various level of prostitution in China. Second wives are on the top of the stack.

***
Chinese police categorise prostitution practices according to a descending hierarchy of seven tiers, though this typology does not exhaust the forms of practices that exist.[40] These tiers highlight the heterogeneous nature of prostitution and prostitutes. While they are all classified as prostitutes, the services they offer can be very different. Within some tiers, for example, there is still some revulsion to the acts of anal sex and oral sex. In parallel with the wide range of backgrounds for prostitutes, male buyers of sex also come from a wide range of occupational backgrounds.

First tier - baoernai (包二奶)
Women who act as the "second wives" of men with money and influential positions, including government officials and entrepreneurs from the mainland, as well as overseas businessmen. This practice is defined as prostitution on the grounds that women in question actively solicit men who can provide them with fixed-term accommodation and a regular allowance. Women who engage in these acts will sometimes co-habit with their "clients" and may even have ambitions to become a real wife.

Second tier - baopo (包婆 "packaged wife")
Women who accompany high class clients for a fixed duration of time, for example, during the course of a business trip, and receive a set payment for doing so.
The first and second tiers have become the focus of heated public debate because they are explicitly linked to government corruption.[citation needed] Many domestic commentators contend that these practices constitute a concrete expression of "bourgeois rights".[41] The All-China Women's Federation, as one of the major vehicles of feminism in the PRC, as well as women's groups in Hong Kong and Taiwan, have been actively involved in efforts to eradicate this form of "concubinage" as practices that violate the emotional and economic surety of the marriage contract.[42]

Third tier - santing (三厅 "three halls")
Women who perform sexual acts with men in karaoke/dance venues, bars, restaurants, teahouses and other venues and who receive financial recompense in the form of tips from the individual men they accompany, as well as from a share of the profits generated by informal service charges on the use of facilities and the consumption of food and beverages. A common euphemism for such hostesses is sanpei xiaojie (三陪小姐: "ladies of the three accompaniments"). In theory, the "three accompaniments" are chatting, drinking and dancing with their clients. In practice, the "three accompaniments" more often refers to dancing with, drinking with, and being publicly groped by their clients. These women often begin by allowing their clients to fondle or intimately caress their bodies, then if the client is eager, will engage in sexual intercourse.

Fourth tier - "doorbell girls" (叮咚小姐 "dingdong ladies")
Women who solicit potential buyers of sex by phoning rooms in a given hotel.

Fifth tier - falangmei (发廊妹 "hairdressing salon sisters")
Women who work in places that offer commercial sexual services under the guise of massage or health and beauty treatments; for instance, in health and fitness centres, beauty parlours, barber shops, bathhouses and saunas. Common activities in these premises are masturbation or oral sex.

Sixth tier - jienü (街女 "street girls")
Women who solicit male buyers of sex on the streets.

Seventh tier - xiagongpeng (下工棚 "down the work shack")

Women who sell sex to the transient labour force of male workers from the rural countryside.

The lowest two tiers are characterised by a more straightforward exchange of sex for financial or material recompense. They are neither explicitly linked to government corruption, nor directly mediated through China's new commercial recreational business sector. Women who sell sex in the lowest two tiers usually do so in return for small sums of money, food and shelter.

Bonzo1
10-11-10, 18:38
But as for high-end Chinese, I'm not sure they have that.

A theory...and it's only a theory. The best of the best Chinese girls can become the second wives of the wealthy Chinese.

Back to the second wife thing. That's my theory as to why you don't see a lot of super-hot Chinese high-end call girls. They have another avenue to the cash.


Well, your theory is incomplete; they had to come from somewhere. Generally, the answer is that these types are found in high-end KTV's, because that is both where they can make more money and where they can most easily find husbands or boyfriends.

They are not rare at all; in fact they number in the thousands. But you won't find them on English websites or in foreigner focused bars (or generally in bars at all for that matter, though there are some upscale bars, using the term loosely, that stock model types.)

StinkyFeet
10-12-10, 04:07
Well, your theory is incomplete; they had to come from somewhere. Generally, the answer is that these types are found in high-end KTV's, because that is both where they can make more money and where they can most easily find husbands or boyfriends.

They are not rare at all; in fact they number in the thousands. But you won't find them on English websites or in foreigner focused bars (or generally in bars at all for that matter, though there are some upscale bars, using the term loosely, that stock model types.)

the young diamonds really disappear fast! met a lot in my lifetime that were stunning and never saw them again. privatized quickly. i did the same with certain girls that I clicked really well with. also seems that the stunners only do the ktv for several months before deciding which sugardaddy to go with. frankly speaking, i am surprised that a stunner from Yunfu (20yr, 175cm, natural D) i am chatting with hasn't disappeared yet.

StinkyFeet
10-12-10, 04:21
The "real deal" high class escort is not something that you easily find here. If it does exist...and I'll bet it does...then it's probably very private. I'm not aware of any networked corporate services like this in Shanghai.


the real high end can be insane especially in shenzen. makes the venus agency look like playschool. for one its never advertised and members invites are from word of mouth only from other members. the initial fee for entrance is 200000HKD and up dependent on the organization and type of girls available. the top tier members only club has minor actresses and HK models (generally well educated girls). Most are controlled by the Triads. this is what has been told to me by a Taiwanese high roller. whatever. I take a countryside cute girl from west china anytime then a snotty chinese "highend" girl.

Levitian
10-12-10, 05:10
the real high end can be insane especially in shenzen. makes the venus agency look like playschool. for one its never advertised and members invites are from word of mouth only from other members. the initial fee for entrance is 200000HKD and up dependent on the organization and type of girls available. the top tier members only club has minor actresses and HK models (generally well educated girls). Most are controlled by the Triads. this is what has been told to me by a Taiwanese high roller. whatever. I take a countryside cute girl from west china anytime then a snotty chinese "highend" girl.

Just recently, there was a big scandal about a high-class escort service ring in China, I think it happened or was discovered in Chongqing. It also included some stars and starlets, which you eventually could book, for a certain price.
I think one or several Hong Kong or Mainland starlets are actually still under investigation.
And there is this rumor, that there are clubs or agencies in Beijing, where you can even book dates & more with real stars, as long as the price is right. Well ... at the end of the day, the whole movie and entertainment industry in China and HK are in the hand of the Triads, they decide about careers, and I could imagine that this also includes requests for "special services".

Levitian

Chaz Can Do
10-12-10, 09:41
I came across this site which is a Chinese forum that has a lot of good info. You have to be able to read chinese to get anything from it. I'm not associated to it so use the info at your own risk.

http://www.haptog.com/?fromuid=60516

Good luck!

OldAsiaHand
10-12-10, 14:51
Well, your theory is incomplete; they had to come from somewhere. Generally, the answer is that these types are found in high-end KTV's, because that is both where they can make more money and where they can most easily find husbands or boyfriends.

They are not rare at all; in fact they number in the thousands. But you won't find them on English websites or in foreigner focused bars (or generally in bars at all for that matter, though there are some upscale bars, using the term loosely, that stock model types.)

Bonzo1,

A couple of points about the KTV girls you mention:

1) You will never see them in a line-up.

2) They are private stock for the really high rollers. You need to go there with one of these guys.

3) Many are booked by phone in advance.

4) Minimum is 1k RMB sitting fee.

5) They never go out the first time you meet them

6) They charge 10k RMB and up for FS and they expect expensive gifts on top.

7) As a laowai, you have little to no chance of doing them.

8) The best ones end up as second wives pretty quickly.

Just my POV.

OAH

Five Aces
10-12-10, 15:59
from Levitian: I take a countryside cute girl from west china anytime then a snotty chinese "highend" girl.Which reminds me of the 300 rmb bbs girl who left me howling at the moon for 2 days after.

Bonzo1
10-12-10, 16:33
Bonzo1,

A couple of points about the KTV girls you mention:

1) You will never see them in a line-up.

2) They are private stock for the really high rollers. You need to go there with one of these guys.

3) Many are booked by phone in advance.

4) Minimum is 1k RMB sitting fee.

5) They never go out the first time you meet them

6) They charge 10k RMB and up for FS and they expect expensive gifts on top.

7) As a laowai, you have little to no chance of doing them.

8) The best ones end up as second wives pretty quickly.

Just my POV.

OAH


My experience is that this is true...sort of. With some of the guys I roll with who are KTV frequenters in SH (3-5 times per week most weeks for several years,) we get these types in our room almost every time. However, they do not charge us any extra for the sitting fee, and generally they are 4000 to 6000 for take home. A buddy and I once pulled a couple of them for free out of Jin Bi (a high end KTV on Huai Hai lu.)

I don't doubt at all that there exists exactly what you describe above (I've heard of this but never seen it,) and perhaps what I'm thinking of here is a middle tier. Since none of us are looking for xiao tai tai's, maybe that's why we always end up in this tier ...but I really don't know for sure since I never asked.

Btw, regarding "high end," personally I and several friends have enjoyed from time to time working on the mama's. When we score, which is a low hit proposition but it happens, we never need to pay anything ... it's just good times had by all.

But I imagine that most often, especially for noobs, the best bet for stunners is just choosing them off the line up or asking the mama to get someone special and telling her you are willing to spend more for the girl, tips, etc...the more you indicate, likely the better you'll get.

Cheers,

-B-

Carage
10-12-10, 20:48
Which reminds me of the 300 rmb bbs girl who left me howling at the moon for 2 days after.She cleaned you out?

Genji88
10-13-10, 00:12
Interesting discussion. I appreciate all the posts about this.

I suppose I'm looking for a second tier girl. Or one of the expensive KTV girls you guys are talking about. I travel to China a few times a year and would rather have a regular arrangement than looking for something new every time.

It's interesting that sponsoring a girl seems a lot more doable in China. I guess the financial position of these girls is quite different, but there must be a cultural difference as well. A western girl wouldn't tolerate this arrangement for long. Hence all the sex scandals in the US we hear about I guess.

It looks like the best thing is to go to a KTV and try to find something good there. I don't have any friends that are regulars or high rollers. I am american born Chinese, so I guess I have some advantage.


My experience is that this is true. Sort of. With some of the guys I roll with who are KTV frequenters in SH (3-5 times per week most weeks for several years,) we get these types in our room almost every time. However, they do not charge us any extra for the sitting fee, and generally they are 4000 to 6000 for take home. A buddy and I once pulled a couple of them for free out of Jin Bi (a high end KTV on Huai Hai lu.)

I don't doubt at all that there exists exactly what you describe above (I've heard of this but never seen it,) and perhaps what I'm thinking of here is a middle tier. Since none of us are looking for xiao tai tai's, maybe that's why we always end up in this tier. But I really don't know for sure since I never asked.

BTW, regarding "high end, " personally I and several friends have enjoyed from time to time working on the mama's. When we score, which is a low hit proposition but it happens, we never need to pay anything. It's just good times had by all.

But I imagine that most often, especially for noobs, the best bet for stunners is just choosing them off the line up or asking the mama to get someone special and telling her you are willing to spend more for the girl, tips, etc. The more you indicate, likely the better you'll get.

Cheers,

-B-

Pokerstar77
10-13-10, 03:53
I have a very rich German friend who is in his mid-thirties. He has never needed money, nor will he ever need any. It's just no object for this guy.

He has mongered worldwide, to include moving to various countries for periods of up to two years so he can whet his appetite.

Benchmark: Here is a link (not to a competitive site to ISG) that some would say represents a high class escort. It's the kind of girl he might fly into Macau for three days of gambling at the Paiza Club at the Venetian. Or for a week or two in the Maldives. He might even have a pair of them flown in.

http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/munich/gallery/claire/profile

The pricing for something like this is astronomical. And I'm not sure if any pussy is worth that much money. (Unless, of course, money is truly no object.) Candidly, I cannot relate to this kind of high-class escort mongering.

That having been said, I've not found anything in Shanghai that is close to this. Or for that matter even "far" from this.

The "real deal" high class escort is not something that you easily find here. If it does exist...and I'll bet it does...then it's probably very private. I'm not aware of any networked corporate services like this in Shanghai.

The closest I've seen to high-end take out is at the bat in the Shanghai World Financial Center. Under the right conditions (they trust you, know you, and you ask for some overnight company) the staff just might have the phone numbers of some high-end treats. Probably will be Russian or Easter European. Not Chinese. This is not surprising given the wealthy clientčle in the building.

But as for high-end Chinese, I'm not sure they have that.

A theory...and it's only a theory. The best of the best Chinese girls can become the second wives of the wealthy Chinese. They don't have to learn English if they are second wives. They have mega cash flowing to them and don't have to worry about much else, except looking like yummy arm candy when she's with her money-man and he's showing her off to his friends. Kind of like a nice car, watch, or other accessory.

Note: My rich German friend used to call these girls a "Plaza 66 B***h". He had one of these who was a Thai girl living in Shanghai. That lasted about a year until she burned through a $100k in shopping at 66 and then got stingy with the sex. Go figure. But I digress.

Back to the second wife thing. That's my theory as to why you don't see a lot of super-hot Chinese high-end call girls. They have another avenue to the cash.

Below, is a cut-and -paste post from Wikipedia that is somewhat helpful. It a broad context it categorizes the various level of prostitution in China. Second wives are on the top of the stack.

***
Chinese police categorise prostitution practices according to a descending hierarchy of seven tiers, though this typology does not exhaust the forms of practices that exist.[40] These tiers highlight the heterogeneous nature of prostitution and prostitutes. While they are all classified as prostitutes, the services they offer can be very different. Within some tiers, for example, there is still some revulsion to the acts of anal sex and oral sex. In parallel with the wide range of backgrounds for prostitutes, male buyers of sex also come from a wide range of occupational backgrounds.

First tier - baoernai (包二奶)
Women who act as the "second wives" of men with money and influential positions, including government officials and entrepreneurs from the mainland, as well as overseas businessmen. This practice is defined as prostitution on the grounds that women in question actively solicit men who can provide them with fixed-term accommodation and a regular allowance. Women who engage in these acts will sometimes co-habit with their "clients" and may even have ambitions to become a real wife.

Second tier - baopo (包婆 "packaged wife")
Women who accompany high class clients for a fixed duration of time, for example, during the course of a business trip, and receive a set payment for doing so.
The first and second tiers have become the focus of heated public debate because they are explicitly linked to government corruption.[citation needed] Many domestic commentators contend that these practices constitute a concrete expression of "bourgeois rights".[41] The All-China Women's Federation, as one of the major vehicles of feminism in the PRC, as well as women's groups in Hong Kong and Taiwan, have been actively involved in efforts to eradicate this form of "concubinage" as practices that violate the emotional and economic surety of the marriage contract.[42]

Third tier - santing (三厅 "three halls")
Women who perform sexual acts with men in karaoke/dance venues, bars, restaurants, teahouses and other venues and who receive financial recompense in the form of tips from the individual men they accompany, as well as from a share of the profits generated by informal service charges on the use of facilities and the consumption of food and beverages. A common euphemism for such hostesses is sanpei xiaojie (三陪小姐: "ladies of the three accompaniments"). In theory, the "three accompaniments" are chatting, drinking and dancing with their clients. In practice, the "three accompaniments" more often refers to dancing with, drinking with, and being publicly groped by their clients. These women often begin by allowing their clients to fondle or intimately caress their bodies, then if the client is eager, will engage in sexual intercourse.

Fourth tier - "doorbell girls" (叮咚小姐 "dingdong ladies")
Women who solicit potential buyers of sex by phoning rooms in a given hotel.

Fifth tier - falangmei (发廊妹 "hairdressing salon sisters")
Women who work in places that offer commercial sexual services under the guise of massage or health and beauty treatments; for instance, in health and fitness centres, beauty parlours, barber shops, bathhouses and saunas. Common activities in these premises are masturbation or oral sex.

Sixth tier - jienü (街女 "street girls")
Women who solicit male buyers of sex on the streets.

Seventh tier - xiagongpeng (下工棚 "down the work shack")

Women who sell sex to the transient labour force of male workers from the rural countryside.

The lowest two tiers are characterised by a more straightforward exchange of sex for financial or material recompense. They are neither explicitly linked to government corruption, nor directly mediated through China's new commercial recreational business sector. Women who sell sex in the lowest two tiers usually do so in return for small sums of money, food and shelter.I'm an ABC my old man is a Honkey and my ma is from Shenzhen. I can pretty much confirm your theory. The Family we have back in China are pretty much settled because they have real estate all over the place, makes me wonder why my fooks ever left HK and CHN in the 1st place, must've been a different time back then.

But I can all but pretty much confirm that the most top tier girls will not be in the free market for a long time. The best girls will be bao the very instant by some rich guy. Almost every self respecting wealthy Chinese business man with some good guanci will have a 2nd wife because to them it is a status symbol. These guys will provide their 2nd wife with houses, cars, money or any other thing they'll, sky's the limit.

Entertainment industry girls are no exception, even the high profile one's.

If you as a laiwai want to have really exclusive escort, you'll need one thing more then money... and that is good high-level contacts (Guanci). Most of these girls are so well provided they don't need to look anywhere else.

Pokerstar77
10-13-10, 04:06
Which reminds me of the 300 rmb bbs girl who left me howling at the moon for 2 days after.We all have been there.

OldAsiaHand
10-13-10, 04:19
My experience is that this is true...sort of. With some of the guys I roll with who are KTV frequenters in SH (3-5 times per week most weeks for several years,) we get these types in our room almost every time. However, they do not charge us any extra for the sitting fee, and generally they are 4000 to 6000 for take home. A buddy and I once pulled a couple of them for free out of Jin Bi (a high end KTV on Huai Hai lu.)

I don't doubt at all that there exists exactly what you describe above (I've heard of this but never seen it,) and perhaps what I'm thinking of here is a middle tier. Since none of us are looking for xiao tai tai's, maybe that's why we always end up in this tier ...but I really don't know for sure since I never asked.

Btw, regarding "high end," personally I and several friends have enjoyed from time to time working on the mama's. When we score, which is a low hit proposition but it happens, we never need to pay anything ... it's just good times had by all.

But I imagine that most often, especially for noobs, the best bet for stunners is just choosing them off the line up or asking the mama to get someone special and telling her you are willing to spend more for the girl, tips, etc...the more you indicate, likely the better you'll get.

Cheers,

-B-

B,

Your group would qualify as high rollers with that KTV frequency. The mamas are keen to keep your business and will accomodate with their best talent.

I have been to KTV a couple of times with "well connected" local punters and saw the girls I mentioned. One of these KTVs was a private club. The girls were all stunners and they had been booked in advance by the punters. I was asked what type of girl I liked and the mama brought a custom line-up for me. I am not sure if any of these girls came from the private stock or not but they were better than what I saw roaming the halls when we first arrived. The line-up were all in the 9 category, 170+, perfect bodies, etc. In all these cases, the girls would not go out with me. I was a guest so I don't know how much the sitting fee was. My hosts paid for everything. We all left alone (save my face) but I do believe the local punters made arrangements for the girls to meet them later. I was told that the girls will not go out until they get to know you better.

I often see stunners in Shenzhen, obviously being kept by somebody since the are dressed to the hilt with designer clothes and accessories. They never give me the time of day.

Just my POV.

OAH

Chaz Can Do
10-13-10, 09:20
Just wondering if anyone has any insight as to whether or not it's safe to head out to the saunas now.

Bonzo1
10-13-10, 12:22
Interesting discussion. I appreciate all the posts about this.

I suppose I'm looking for a second tier girl. Or one of the expensive KTV girls you guys are talking about. I travel to China a few times a year and would rather have a regular arrangement than looking for something new every time.

It's interesting that sponsoring a girl seems a lot more doable in China. I guess the financial position of these girls is quite different, but there must be a cultural difference as well. A western girl wouldn't tolerate this arrangement for long. Hence all the sex scandals in the US we hear about I guess.

It looks like the best thing is to go to a KTV and try to find something good there. I don't have any friends that are regulars or high rollers. I am american born Chinese, so I guess I have some advantage.That's a piece of cake. Just go to a few KTV's with friends who live here (you don't wanna go alone...just boring as hell,) talk to the mamas a bit about what you want, and show a willingness to spend money. Not even really necessary to talk to the mamas; just interview a few girls, find one you like, take her out (or don't) from the KTV, and in either case get her number.

However, bear in mind that the Chinese way is to sponsor these girls, so if you really want a reliable "one" then you will have to consider doing that. Otherwise, just meet several, put their numbers in your book, and keep in light touch with them.

A better option might be to just be really nice to a good mama and get her number and she'll send you girls. I've done that numerous times with generally very good results.

Finally, going back to the initial post, I'd say that by FAR the best place to find Chinese stunner/model types is Macau. No comparison anywhere else in China.

HK also has plenty of high end escorts and services, even some lower end of high end listed on 141 and similar sites ... but for the real high end everyone just goes to Shenzhen or Macau since it's so much better value.

Anyway, I'm rambling and a bit off topic here. Point is, if you want stunners, go to Macau. If you and in SH and want stunners, go to KTVs and get several contacts, including contacts of good mamas. If you want a regular waiting for you and available whenever you want, then you'll most likely have to sponsor her.

G-luck and keep us posted.

-B-

Five Aces
10-13-10, 14:23
She cleaned you out?No, she fxxxked my brains out.

Shaun Palmer
10-13-10, 16:01
Just got back from Heting. The place is kind of cool, clean and quiet, and had kind of a good time there. I am just disappointed by the line. 8 girls were lining up in front of me and they were not really young. I finally choose one who was ok but fake tits and not a very pretty face. So bad the line is not as good as the place is. Kind of a deception for me, when I compared the girls from other places. Hope I was just there at the wrong time!

Carage
10-13-10, 22:12
Just got back from Heting. The place is kind of cool, clean and quiet, and had kind of a good time there. I am just disappointed by the line. 8 girls were lining up in front of me and they were not really young. I finally choose one who was ok but fake tits and not a very pretty face. So bad the line is not as good as the place is. Kind of a deception for me, when I compared the girls from other places. Hope I was just there at the wrong time!Nope, that is typical experience. They do have a rather small lineup, and the quality of the girls is just totally hit or miss. (They really need to find someone else for quality control)

Member #3444
10-14-10, 00:17
Went to a place last night near my hotel in Pudong that I guess qualifies as a BBS in the new order. It's a massage place on Weifang Road, they had a sign outside claiming "Grand Opening" although I have walked by the place a number of time in the past 2 months and it has always been there and open.

The door girl came out to us as we were checking out the sign, which showed a lot of 60-minute massages for 150 or 200 (could not tell the difference between them, Japanese oil, Indian oil. No idea). After a few minutes mamasan comes out with a small separate listing that includes things like "2 dragon and phoenix" for 580 and full body oil massage for 280, which she explains includes massage with legs.

So my buddy and I go in for the 280 one. Go upstairs with the only two girls in view, I get the younger one, he gets the older one, although mine is stockier than his. She points to the shower, and is in and out while I am undressing and showering. I put on what amounts to a small silk skirt, and she arranges to bed with me face down and proceeds to a fairly good normal massage on my back, then legs. I notice strangely that she is wearing nylons, and start wondering how she will do the leg thing.

So she has me turn over, little embarrassed laughter at my tenting. She does the chest and stomach massage for 10-15 minutes, then points down and asks the question, I nod, she puts up 3 fingers. I end up settling at 2, not having done a lot fo research on the going rate. So she does her thing while I have my hand up her skirt, with the nylons still on. Finishes up, wipes me up, and then finishes the hour on my legs.

I finished a few minutes before my buddy so I went down and paid, she gave me a few pre-printed receipts for 200 each, and they gave me a coke. As I wait I notice a few much hotter and smaller girls walking around, and not wearing nylons. My buddy comes down, we trade notes, and he actually did get the leg massage thing from the little spinner.

Not sure if I got something other than what I asked, not too blown up about it though. We'll probably check out a few other places before the week is out.

Comments from anyone, is this the new way, or should I practice my technique or notch up my expectations in the future?

Money11
10-14-10, 02:49
Just got back from Heting. The place is kind of cool, clean and quiet, and had kind of a good time there. I am just disappointed by the line. 8 girls were lining up in front of me and they were not really young. I finally choose one who was ok but fake tits and not a very pretty face. So bad the line is not as good as the place is. Kind of a deception for me, when I compared the girls from other places. Hope I was just there at the wrong time!Where is it located in comparison to the Bund area. I am staying in The Bund in a few weeks and am looking at going to Heting. Let me know.

Thanks

Pokerstar77
10-14-10, 03:10
Interesting discussion. I appreciate all the posts about this.

I suppose I'm looking for a second tier girl. Or one of the expensive KTV girls you guys are talking about. I travel to China a few times a year and would rather have a regular arrangement than looking for something new every time.

It's interesting that sponsoring a girl seems a lot more doable in China. I guess the financial position of these girls is quite different, but there must be a cultural difference as well. A western girl wouldn't tolerate this arrangement for long. Hence all the sex scandals in the US we hear about I guess.

It looks like the best thing is to go to a KTV and try to find something good there. I don't have any friends that are regulars or high rollers. I am american born Chinese, so I guess I have some advantage.If you speak the language it is very much an advantage. Plus you speak English as well. I was in Shanghai for about a year for an internship and a student exchange program. Many Chinese girls want to learn english because it is kind of fashionable and useful, hence why so many wealthy Chinse families sent their kids to study abroad.

My 2 cents; narrow down your choices to a few girls take them out a few times for starbucks, shopping and some Chinese hotpot and soon they'll be calling you instead of you ringing up them. They way we did it back then was get to know some KTV girls and their numbers, call them and meet the outside the KTV. Keep lose contact and ring up your favorite girl(s) and tell them you'll probably be coming back soon and ask if she needs anything from abroad. Buy the darn Gucci bag, watch or whatever she wants. Have her pick you up at the airport and enjoy life. As I understand you are not looking for a wife so you need to get used to P2P, and if you are looking for a spouse my friend. Stay away from these girls. I've seen a friend of mine sucked out dry and got thrown away like a empty milk can. That's what happens when men start to think with their small head instead of their big one.

Well good luck, I'll be around Chinese New Year in Shenzhen and visit Shanghai 3 weeks after Chinese New Year. If you are in town around that time let me know and we can go visit some KTV's together.

Shaun Palmer
10-14-10, 15:54
Where is it located in comparison to the Bund area. I am staying in The Bund in a few weeks and am looking at going to Heting. Let me know.

ThanksMail me here and I'll tell you : [Email address deleted by Admin]

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

Rahmeh
10-14-10, 18:52
Is that row of BBS still operationg -- or closed?

I did visit it some 4 years agoAnyuan Lu past Changde Lu. There's a row of bbs all lights off but the gals are just waiting for you to get in.

Aalso if you keep walking west, there are a bunch of decent mp with nice h/3

Cheers

Money11
10-15-10, 15:37
Mail me here and I'll tell you : [Email address deleted by Admin]

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!Can I send you a private message?

===============================================

Greetings,

Here's how to contact other forum members.

1. Buy a subscription.

2. Send them a Private Message.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?

Thanks,

Jackson

Fuzimiao
10-15-10, 16:55
Went to a place last night near my hotel in Pudong that I guess qualifies as a BBS in the new order. It's a massage place on Weifang Road, they had a sign outside claiming "Grand Opening" although I have walked by the place a number of time in the past 2 months and it has always been there and open.

The door girl came out to us as we were checking out the sign, which showed a lot of 60-minute massages for 150 or 200 (could not tell the difference between them, Japanese oil, Indian oil. No idea). After a few minutes mamasan comes out with a small separate listing that includes things like "2 dragon and phoenix" for 580 and full body oil massage for 280, which she explains includes massage with legs.

Comments from anyone, is this the new way, or should I practice my technique or notch up my expectations in the future?
Shmitty, where in Weifang Lu, I know the "spa"to the right of "Tequlia" specialises in this kind of stockinged massage, perhaps they changed ownership, I know they have a long history of LE problems. Price is not so important, if you are a regular visitor, the happy ending can be much than a simple tug. Last week in Laoshan Lu, (Off Weifang Lu) I noticed that MP restrictions on hotel room visiting have been relaxed, several girls were taken to the nearby hotels for a more relaxed massage!

Fuzimiao
10-15-10, 17:01
This week I visited my usual (Vitamin C) Pharmacy in Weifang Lu, near Shimao Bin Jiang, I needed Imodium, the assistant asked me to write my name and phonenumber in a small book. When I queried this she said, new rules, as the drugs are not OTC.
I declined and got the pills from the 24 hour pharmacy in Lancun Lu, no formalities.

BionicMan
10-15-10, 17:54
This week I visited my usual (Vitamin C) Pharmacy in Weifang Lu, near Shimao Bin Jiang, I needed Imodium, the assistant asked me to write my name and phonenumber in a small book. When I queried this she said, new rules, as the drugs are not OTC.
I declined and got the pills from the 24 hour pharmacy in Lancun Lu, no formalities.Would the name and phone number been checked on the spot, then?
Otherwise it'd be just a formality to write Mr John Smith....and a bogus phone number...

Member #3444
10-15-10, 18:55
Shmitty, where in Weifang Lu, I know the "spa"to the right of "Tequlia" specialises in this kind of stockinged massage, perhaps they changed ownership, I know they have a long history of LE problems. Price is not so important, if you are a regular visitor, the happy ending can be much than a simple tug. Last week in Laoshan Lu, (Off Weifang Lu) I noticed that MP restrictions on hotel room visiting have been relaxed, several girls were taken to the nearby hotels for a more relaxed massage!It was at the corner of Weifang and Pudong Nan Lu. There are two across the street from each other, this is the one closer to Pudong Nan and on the same side as the DVD store.

We walked by some places tonight that looked to have much hotter masseuses over by the Eton, didn't go in, opted just to do a foot massage, and was then offered an hour massage for 100. No extras asked (the chick was not terribly hot) but she about tore my arms off. We did go into a bar called Happy Sisters Bar (were dragged in really) played a few games of pool with one hottie and one atrocious paunchy chick, and got the hell out of there. I did not immediately remember the thing about girl bars, which is apparently what this was. Kind of a dumb concept as far as I can tell.

Herry
10-15-10, 19:32
I came across this site which is a Chinese forum that has a lot of good info. You have to be able to read chinese to get anything from it. I'm not associated to it so use the info at your own risk.

http://www.haptog.com/?fromuid=60516

Good luck!本主题需向作者支付 5 千币 才能浏览 (this topic are required to pay 5 thousand dollars To visit), what does this mean?

When I click buy theme, it stated my balance is not enough, bla bla bla.

So, how do I open the topic to see the picture?

Genji88
10-15-10, 21:47
Thanks for the advice.

Can anyone recommend a good KTV to go to? I'm looking for something high end, don't mind paying more for quality. It would be great if I could get a mama recommendation too.

Just wanted to share an experience:

About a year ago, I ended up at a huge KTV. The street (sorry I don't remember) was full of them, big neon signs, quite a sight. The place was huge with an open atrium and several floors surrounding the open atrium area. I think there was some sort of gold dragon statue in the middle.

I was pretty impressed going in. We met up with some friends that were already drinking there. Unfortunately it was pretty late, around 11pm.

We were sent three sets of girls, all were pretty mediocre. I ended up with one, but didn't find out until the end of the time that she was "bu fan bien". Meaning she didn't go out with customers. But took her out for dinner the next day, and got what I wanted in the end. She wasn't the most beautiful and became quite clingy, so I dropped her quickly.

Anyway, that fist evening at the KTV, some guy led me to a room where all the girls left their stuff and got ready etc. And he told me to give it a try with girls coming in and out of the room. Saw some really nice ones, tall and thin, model types, but none of them would give me the time of day. Kind of sad really, some weird guy standing around and trying to pick up a girl, so I left empty handed that first night.

With your guys advice, hoping I will do better this time!

Anyways, just wanted to share an experience, hoping it would be helpful.


If you speak the language it is very much an advantage. Plus you speak English as well. I was in Shanghai for about a year for an internship and a student exchange program. Many Chinese girls want to learn english because it is kind of fashionable and useful, hence why so many wealthy Chinse families sent their kids to study abroad.

My 2 cents; narrow down your choices to a few girls take them out a few times for starbucks, shopping and some Chinese hotpot and soon they'll be calling you instead of you ringing up them. They way we did it back then was get to know some KTV girls and their numbers, call them and meet the outside the KTV. Keep lose contact and ring up your favorite girl(s) and tell them you'll probably be coming back soon and ask if she needs anything from abroad. Buy the darn Gucci bag, watch or whatever she wants. Have her pick you up at the airport and enjoy life. As I understand you are not looking for a wife so you need to get used to P2P, and if you are looking for a spouse my friend. Stay away from these girls. I've seen a friend of mine sucked out dry and got thrown away like a empty milk can. That's what happens when men start to think with their small head instead of their big one.

Well good luck, I'll be around Chinese New Year in Shenzhen and visit Shanghai 3 weeks after Chinese New Year. If you are in town around that time let me know and we can go visit some KTV's together.

Applecrate
10-16-10, 01:05
New Sauna Opens on Shanghai's South Bund Waterfront Area

Riverview Hotel
3rd Floor
Address: 76 South Zhongshan Road, Shanghai
Phone:86-21 63306060
Website: http://www.bjxjhotel.com/En/Default.aspx
Alt Web Address: www.riverview-hotel.com
 
From Pudong side you can take Zhangyang Rd to Fuxing East Road Tunnel / Times Square

This new sauna is the replacement for the Royal Silver Spring Sauna which closed over a year ago and was located in the Hengsheng Peninsula Hotel at 205 Wusong Lu. It is operated by the same Guangdong-Hong Kong based entertainment group.

Though their other sauna locations are somewhat discrete, as they focus on the local community, this new facility is situated in an area to host a cross section of clients.

It remains to be seen if this new facility can maintain the same level of service they were previously noted for. However, many of the workers and two of the Hammer Commanders used to work at the Wusong Lu location. They know the business and understand the service product that the entertainment company tries to deliver.

As before, the new sauna continues to use a server system. They believe that it's the job of the Hammer Commander to know the customer, listen to feedback, and make and appropriate selection which is delivered to the massage room. Naturally, if you don't like the selection you can have the Hammer Commander exchange her. Alternately, you can ask for a line-up from start. IN this case they will put two or three girls in the room for you to choose from. This in fact is normally the best option for the newcomer, at least until you get a girl you like. At that stage, the Hammer Commander should be able to know other girls who might fit the client's requirements. The key to a place like this in the beginning is patience in finding the right 'fit' with the girl, which can often take longer (more trips) than sauna's using large-scale line up. But once you do get dialed in, a place like this often be more relaxing that several other venues which always seem to have a hurried-up meat grinder feel.

***

The new sauna's Hammer Commanders continue to know quite a bit about the girls on staff. In the past this company used a ranking system for the girls in order to avoid customer service issues. For example, as I wrote before, they "segregate[d] the girls according to those who could service foreigners, and those who could not. In this way, they avoided the issue of "size complaints" from the customers".

They still know who the "skills" girls are, though I'm not sure how many are on the staff in the new place, unless some have come over from the other venues. Typically the "skills girls" have "had [a] proven performance over a significant time period [that] could be verified through customer feedback".

Other things that remain the same include Mama Trainer (whose twin sister is one of the skills girls…naturally. And no, they don't do tag team matches. One of them is the trainer and the other is a skills girl at another location. Not the best looker to be sure, the "twin skill girl" is only a 7 at best. But she wins a prize for technical skill.)

Opening routine remains the same with a playful little dance in the costume of month. day'. In the past they have used (paraphrased from previous post) "Flight Attendant suits, maid outfits with kinky feather duster; a vixen look with a corset and black fishnet stockings. Currently, they hare using there little white pseudo-bunny outfits with a cute little hat and fingerless gloves.

Following the dance they pull out this special knee pad and go straight into their signature BBBJ which is, well, quite effective. The signature blow job is standardized thanks to Mama Trainer. It features lot of tongue action and a head-twisting motion that is also, well, very effective.

From there, you can go all-out or go with the flow and they will go through a short scripted routine. However, this is not the norm. They are more free-flowing in their approach than Heting or Sacrosa.

Ninety minutes is still the allotted time and total damage is RMB700.

The facilities in the new sauna are very nice. As good – if not slightly better – than Heting. The shower area is really great. They also have a nice selection of juices available along with fruits and food items in the dip pool area, which is medium size (by design) as they want to present a small club-like atmosphere. (As compared to the massive facility at Bodi's Wet Lands.) They have a total of 27 massage with electronic temperature control, pretty good music, and these "angled-massage beds" that add to the fun. Mirrors and lighting are really cool as well.

In summary, like most new facilities of this time, it will probably take some time to get established. Yet, given this entertainment company's track record for service delivery, it might not take as long as some others do.

Fuzimiao
10-16-10, 15:27
Would the name and phone number been checked on the spot, then?
Otherwise it'd be just a formality to write Mr John Smith....and a bogus phone number...

True, I realised that later, I was simply p#####d off and walked out.

Good Time Jock
10-16-10, 21:45
Hey Brothers,

I've just returned from a couple of months in Shanghai - and only discovered Datong Mill on my last night. As it was a Tuesday it was dead - but wondered if anyone had any views or FR's?

I'm back over in a week so would be good to work out if it's worth my while spending any time over there? It's near to where I stay (Xintiandi area) so most convienent for an evening's fun.

Thanks,

GTJ

Philosophery
10-17-10, 14:49
Went out last night looking for some relief. Took the metro to Shanghai stadium and walked to 999 tianyaoshao rd. The lights were turned off and the guard told me thatbthe sauna was closed.

Smintbandit
10-17-10, 15:46
Can anybody PM me for any safe good outcall in SH to come to my hotel room?

Gao Xing
10-17-10, 16:05
I've just returned from a couple of months in Shanghai - and only discovered Datong Mill on my last night. As it was a Tuesday it was dead - but wondered if anyone had any views or FR's?

I have yet to go to Datong Mall/Mill when it isn't dead. Granted, most of the times it's been on a weekday evening, but there's never anything going on. (Save the Chinese club at the west end, but I'm not going to subject myself to the excruciating sounds of hip hop blasted at high decibels...) Kind of sad to see the hostesses hanging outside the bars, playing cards, begging for business. At least it's easy to negotiate cheap happy hour prices, especially if you're with a few friends! Probably my favorite bar of those I've been to is Woodstock. Stay away from LA Club -- greedy girls working there.

It seems that most bars are just "talking girl" bars, where you can buy the hostesses drinks. If you're looking for evening company, you're better off to go to the other places mentioned in this forum (Manhattan, for example).

However, I would be interested to see if anyone has had better experiences at Datong? Is it busier on the weekend? I can't believe that place will survive given the lack of customers any day of the week, but what else should you expect for a half-finished, underground bar street in the middle of an empty, dark public park?

Amadeuss
10-17-10, 22:23
Anyuan Lu past Changde Lu. There's a row of bbs all lights off but the gals are just waiting for you to get in.

Aalso if you keep walking west, there are a bunch of decent mp with nice h/3

Cheers
Thanks... will be there next week.

Anyone else some tips on the BBS situation?

Bblover
10-18-10, 00:50
If you are looking at tons of girls, plse check check out the Sweet Garden website, it contains may links to QQ IDs, phone numbers, website, ect...

Click here:
http://www.shforgirl.info/?frombblover =

Good luck.

Pokerstar77
10-18-10, 03:21
Party World Ktv is a good place to start with. I usually go to the one on 459 north Wulumuqi Lu. I don't know where you usually stay in SH but I think they got 4 or 5 other locations. The other one I know, is in Xujiuhui located on the infamous Tianyaoqiao lu near Linling Lu. You'll probably find a location near you if you google it.


Thanks for the advice.

Can anyone recommend a good KTV to go to? I'm looking for something high end, don't mind paying more for quality. It would be great if I could get a mama recommendation too.

Just wanted to share an experience:

About a year ago, I ended up at a huge KTV. The street (sorry I don't remember) was full of them, big neon signs, quite a sight. The place was huge with an open atrium and several floors surrounding the open atrium area. I think there was some sort of gold dragon statue in the middle.

I was pretty impressed going in. We met up with some friends that were already drinking there. Unfortunately it was pretty late, around 11pm.

We were sent three sets of girls, all were pretty mediocre. I ended up with one, but didn't find out until the end of the time that she was "bu fan bien". Meaning she didn't go out with customers. But took her out for dinner the next day, and got what I wanted in the end. She wasn't the most beautiful and became quite clingy, so I dropped her quickly.

Anyway, that fist evening at the KTV, some guy led me to a room where all the girls left their stuff and got ready etc. And he told me to give it a try with girls coming in and out of the room. Saw some really nice ones, tall and thin, model types, but none of them would give me the time of day. Kind of sad really, some weird guy standing around and trying to pick up a girl, so I left empty handed that first night.

With your guys advice, hoping I will do better this time!

Anyways, just wanted to share an experience, hoping it would be helpful.

Genji88
10-18-10, 07:23
Thanks. Staying at the bund. Is this close by?


Party World Ktv is a good place to start with. I usually go to the one on 459 north Wulumuqi Lu. I don't know where you usually stay in SH but I think they got 4 or 5 other locations. The other one I know, is in Xujiuhui located on the infamous Tianyaoqiao lu near Linling Lu. You'll probably find a location near you if you google it.

BionicMan
10-18-10, 12:11
If you are looking at tons of girls, plse check check out the Sweet Garden website, it contains may links to QQ IDs, phone numbers, website, ect...

Click here:
http://www.shforgirl.info/?frombblover =

Good luck.
It doesnt seem to have an english section, right?

Bonzo1
10-18-10, 12:52
Party World Ktv is a good place to start with. I usually go to the one on 459 north Wulumuqi Lu. I don't know where you usually stay in SH but I think they got 4 or 5 other locations. The other one I know, is in Xujiuhui located on the infamous Tianyaoqiao lu near Linling Lu. You'll probably find a location near you if you google it.

The one place you absolutely do NOT want to go to is Party World. That is not a KTV ...it's a family-safe karaoke place.

RTF for KTV spots - plenty good ones mentioned in here.

Whosme69
10-18-10, 16:42
I'll very soon travel to Wuxi and stay in the Hilton hotel.

Anybody has experiences with any services in / outside of the hotel? Any ideas, where to go and how the rates are?

Any recommendation is highly appreciated - THX

JustDoIt
10-19-10, 07:41
As we all know the sauna at wuzhong road has been closed. But there is a smilar place to wuzhong road. it's by lianhua and yishan road. It's about 10-15 minutes working from Metro 9 from one of the station stops. I would think it's about a 40-50RMB taxi from Jin An Si area. I was reading to see if anyone has posted this place but it seems no one has.

I had two girls (number 871 and 866) for 1100rmb. There is a discount before 7:30PM and you have to pay before 7:30PM. One girl is 700RMB.

There was a good line up of girls. Anyone interested can PM me.

Chaz Can Do
10-19-10, 09:08
So I made the trip all the way over to this place after reading the reviews. And it was closed for "renovations". There seemed like there was a full staff by the front desk working so I wasn't sure if it was because they didn't know me or what. Does anyone know when it'll be back up for biz? Has anyone visited it lately?

Herry
10-19-10, 14:19
Hi guys, are all of these place safe from the HIV disease?

Even with kissing?

Dastardley
10-19-10, 16:17
I'll very soon travel to Wuxi and stay in the Hilton hotel.

Anybody has experiences with any services in / outside of the hotel? Any ideas, where to go and how the rates are?

Any recommendation is highly appreciated - THX

If it's the Hilton 20 mins out of town by the water, nice upmarket hotel but no action I think. There's the hotel massage (closes 9 pm as I recall) or in-room which I haven't tried but is likely to be the usual crazy price upsell at best.

Wuxi is pretty dead in general IMHO.

Good luck anyway

D

Dastardley
10-19-10, 16:47
Zhongtian (not Zhonglian) is now Xinghe. Address is 86 XianXia Road. Location is across the street from Sheraton Hongqiao (corner of Zunyi Road and Xianxia Road) in the Maxdo Plaza (B1).

Was closed during recent crackdown but is now back in business. Same owner and a few of previous girls are also back.

Good service as always.

Can confirm this information and it's still open. Entrance is round the back of the Maxdo Plaza building if you come from the Sheraton side; don't be put off by the rough-looking passage down the stairs as the place itself is small but clean and tidy enough. Line-up of 6 or 8 girls, service OK+. I was (easily) talked into the two-girl-shower option for 960 RMB (all-in) which in hindsight was a bit expensive & may have resulted in the lack of a soapy on the mattress. Probably not worth it in the end.

Overall not bad if you're in the Hongqiao area.

Good luck

D

Member #3444
10-19-10, 17:57
Another guy and I went out in search of trouble tonight, feeling a little stiff in the shoulders opted to try a different massage place than the one last week. Again went along Weifang Road, this time to the east of Pudong Nan Lu. Right on this corner are about 4 MPs, and another three on the west side of Pudong Nan. Went to the one closest to Pudong Nan Lu on the north side of Weifang because they had the hottest girls.

Presented a rather unclear menu of options, was directed toward the Spa option, with a choice of 80 or 90 minutes, with 90 minutes being 368, while the 80 minute option was 278 (may have been 288). So thinking the 90 minute option was an all inclusive package, we went that route.

Spa in this place means a bath in a little tub, girl scrubs you, then out of the tub and onto the table for a typical oil massage. Massage was not bad, and my shoulders really were messed up from a 14 hour day working. After the back moved to the ass, then the legs, then really got into the ass, then told to flip over. Proceeded to ask for 500 for HE, I thought for a minute I was in the fakes market. She was also offering a knee thing for 600. I was countering at 200 and 300, and she was not moving.

So she moved on to other areas, came back after a while a reopened negotiations, but still no movement, finally came down to 400 for HE and 500 for the knee thing. Not buying that, so she moved up to my forehead, neck, shoulders, arms hand, etc. Again reopened negotiations, wanted 300 for HE with no touching, or 400 for the knee thing. At this point I am intrigued about the knee thing as I cam having trouble picturing what this could consist of. So out of a healthy sense of curiosity and stupidity, I agreed to the 400. She got the stockings off and greased up, I played with her ass and kitty for a while until she mouted up facing me in kind of an offset cowgirl with the big guy between her knees.

Admittedly it was amusing and really quite nice, but I have to write this one off as a learning experience, and recommend you boys stay away. The place over to the west of Pudong Nan, north side of Weifang was much better and cheaper, and girls more willing to negotiate reasonably.

Carage
10-19-10, 18:07
So I made the trip all the way over to this place after reading the reviews. And it was closed for "renovations". There seemed like there was a full staff by the front desk working so I wasn't sure if it was because they didn't know me or what. Does anyone know when it'll be back up for biz? Has anyone visited it lately?Are you Asian and happen to speak fluent Chinese?

That could be why.

Genji88
10-19-10, 22:22
Hmmm. Why would pokerstar recommend it? He seemed pretty helpful with his other post.


The one place you absolutely do NOT want to go to is Party World. That is not a KTV ...it's a family-safe karaoke place.

RTF for KTV spots - plenty good ones mentioned in here.

Levitian
10-20-10, 09:26
Can anybody PM me for any safe good outcall in SH to come to my hotel room?

Wonder why you didn't get any reply so far?

Hint: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php

Or you do significantly contribute to the forum, become a "Senior Member" and be able to send and receive pms.

Levitian

Chaz Can Do
10-20-10, 09:36
Are you Asian and happen to speak fluent Chinese?

That could be why.I don't get it. They're not open to Asians who speak Chinese?

Should I just speak English to them?

Will that get me in?

BionicMan
10-20-10, 11:09
Hi guys, are all of these place safe from the HIV disease?

Even with kissing?
Where are you living, man? Mars?

Jes007
10-20-10, 11:23
Gentlemen,

I will be travelling to Shanghai this weekend and planning to go to Manhatten to meet up with my regular girl. If anyone interested in having few drinks send me PM.

I was thinking about adding the interesting places in google map. I have a friend who has done this for poland and this is a great success. Anyone think this is a good idea?

Member #3444
10-20-10, 13:31
Gentlemen,

I will be travelling to Shanghai this weekend and planning to go to Manhatten to meet up with my regular girl. If anyone interested in having few drinks send me PM.

I was thinking about adding the interesting places in google map. I have a friend who has done this for poland and this is a great success. Anyone think this is a good idea?Google maps is fairly unreliable in Shanghai, bug if you can get it to work and line up right, would be cool. It may be a lot of work though to really get it working correctly.

Amadeuss
10-20-10, 14:55
Hi guys, are all of these place safe from the HIV disease?
Even with kissing?
Hey...since when are immature school-kids allowed on the board??

Amadeuss
10-20-10, 15:02
Gentlemen,
I was thinking about adding the interesting places in google map. I have a friend who has done this for poland and this is a great success. Anyone think this is a good idea?

There is a page **** WIKI, which does try that. But at the moment only for Brazil.
Yes, every report shall mark the place on G-map.. would ease the search. Great. (but useless for my Chinese friends... almost none of then knows how to read a map ..lol)

Jes007
10-20-10, 15:23
There is a page **** WIKI, which does try that. But at the moment only for Brazil.
Yes, every report shall mark the place on G-map.. would ease the search. Great. (but useless for my Chinese friends... almost none of then knows how to read a map ..lol)

You are correct, The taxi driver I had held the map upside down!

Dbhappiness
10-20-10, 16:28
Hi guys, are all of these place safe from the HIV disease?

Even with kissing?From Kissing? Did someone miss 10th grade Sex Ed class last week?

Deep or open-mouthed kissing is a very low risk activity in terms of HIV transmission. HIV is only present in saliva in very minute amounts, insufficient to cause infection with HIV.

There has been only one documented case of someone becoming infected with HIV through kissing; a result of exposure to infected blood during open-mouthed kissing. If you or your partner have blood in your mouth, you should avoid kissing until the bleeding stops.

PurpleKat
10-20-10, 16:31
Have RTFF and tried to get a clear read on the KTV situation but have not really been able to get a read on it.

Do not speak Mandarin/Cantonese and do not look Asian, if this matters.

Will be in Shanghai for work and solo. Can I go to a KTV on my own and expect to have 1 or 2 hot (8-9-10) girls to keep me company and provide pleasure in the room and take out?

Have mostly traveled in Brazil and am hoping to find a Termas equivalent in Shanghai.

Or are places like Bodi or Shanghai Hotel more of that style? And if one does not speak Chinese/look Asian, will they be having a tough time in these places?

Bonzo1
10-20-10, 16:56
Hi guys, are all of these place safe from the HIV disease?

Even with kissing?

No. Everyone in China has diseases, and every one of them you can get from kissing (including HIV.) In fact even by contemplating it you are at risk!

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. There should be a minimum IQ of at least 80 and minimum age of 12 to allow postings here.

Golly Woggle
10-20-10, 17:55
I already miss my travels through Singapore, Macau and Thailand. I owe several reports. I'm just barely recovered from all the flying around and I'm still recovering from eating bad Mexican food in Thailand. Ya. I know. What was I thinking?

I decided to take a chance an test my strength. Still feeling rather weak from the stomach thing. And headed out to Sarcosa. I've been reading about the lackluster experiences and I must say, I'm starting to experience it myself. But there's a big. "but" that should be explained.

I arrived around 9PM. Unfortunately there seemed to be a "convention" of guys ahead of me, so I ended up with a line-up of 5 girls. Damn! On my way out I say a few of what I had missed. Made some decent eye contact with a few cuties giving me the "oh, who's this, look. " Damn! I missed the boat. I ended up picking 271. Nice girl but service was so-so. Everything was rushed through the first 30 minutes then we spent the rest of the time with her giving me a lame-duck massage.

I had such great luck with 252 and 270. But this time, I guess it was my turn to be disappointed. I'll just chalk this one up to 'bad timing'. There's just no way to know there's a gang in front of you until you're already inside. I guess I'll go back to trying the day I had my good luck.

Anyway. With one shot gone I was still looking for some redemption fun. On my way to Sarcosa I had walked past one of the many "Spa Massage" shops that seem to line the streets where I live (PM me for details) and noticed a few hotties sitting inside. Sexy black outfits. I took note but kept on my way to Sarcosa. Now I know I should have just cut my trip short right there and then. On my way back home I walked past the same shop hoping to catch a close-up glimpse of one of those hotties. Just my luck. I walk by and this cute little hottie waves me inside. I almost tripped over myself making a 180 back to the door. This girl has amazingly teasing eyes. Great body. Nice. Everything. I was thinking, ok, what's going to go wrong. She asks if I want "massage". I nod 'yes' like a stupid dog. She leads me to a room in the back. Smallish but clean with an ensuite shower stall. She shows me the "menu" of massages and I opt for the 180RMB "european" 60minute job. At this point no money is exchanged. She leaves and comes back with a tray of massage "accessories". I undress and put on these strange blue paper pants. She proceeds with the beginning of a standard massage. About a minute in, she stops and looks at me with the most sultry pouting lips. And those eyes!. And asks me something in mandarin. To be honest, I was so entranced by her look I had no friggin' clue what she said. Actually, I really didn't understand her My mandarin skills are very basic. I kind of knew what she was asking but because I wasn't sure what was really offered at this place I played it cool. Until she pointed at my dick and gave me another one of her "looks". Aaaaaaahhhh. Ok I GET it.

Then the negotiation began. I have no idea if I paid too much. She wanted 700RMB. I politely laughed and told her I know that she knows that that's too much. She gave me another one of those "looks". I got her down to 600. Which really isn't much of a drop, I know. She clarified that it was 600 not 600+180. That made me feel a little better.. Actually it was yet another one of her "looks" that melted me.

Now money was exchanged.

Before she left with the cash she told me that we would move to another room. Really? Ok. I had no clue why.

When she returned, we gathered my things and I followed her into the room next door. Uh. It looked like the same room. But wait there's more. I won't go into the details here just in case big brother is watching but needless to say I felt like I was playing a scene from a James Bond movie.

This girl was a real tease. But in a good way. In our room she slowly took off one piece of clothing at a time. Each time questioning "no? " "yes? ". Meaning "do I take this off now? ". It was a blast. Everything came off but I stopped her at her black stockings. Hey, what the heck

What followed was a pretty decent session. No DFK which was a bit disappointed but overall it didn't really detract from the fun. She let me go into a lengthy round of DATY which she thoroughly enjoyed and the main event was. Eventful. One other unfortunate was that she doesn't do blowjobs. Damn. But again, overall I was happy with her. Something about her quirky teasing personality that just made it all that much more fun. Even without the blow and the kissing.

When we were done. We headed back to the original room. I showered. Bid her farewell. And made my way home.

I know I probably paid too much for her. I'll have to read some more here to figure out what is the real rate. It's not a BBS so I know it shouldn't be that cheap. I wasn't rushed. It felt like a spa-girl session just without the pre-sex cat routine. One thing for sure. Now that I've seen how this operation works, I'm curious to try some more. If I'm lucky, I'll find a similarly hot girl that will also kiss and suck my little friend

So a blah time at Sarcosa ended happily in a random massage joint. Almost makes up for me missing Thailand.

G.

Waldeck2
10-21-10, 13:07
like a Termas in Shanghai that I have discovered. You will do OK in saunas with hand motions and smiles. No Mandarin required. Great Chinese pussy is as good as Rio pussy.


Have RTFF and tried to get a clear read on the KTV situation but have not really been able to get a read on it.

Do not speak Mandarin/Cantonese and do not look Asian, if this matters.

Will be in Shanghai for work and solo. Can I go to a KTV on my own and expect to have 1 or 2 hot (8-9-10) girls to keep me company and provide pleasure in the room and take out?

Have mostly traveled in Brazil and am hoping to find a Termas equivalent in Shanghai.

Or are places like Bodi or Shanghai Hotel more of that style? And if one does not speak Chinese/look Asian, will they be having a tough time in these places?

Member #3444
10-21-10, 14:14
From Kissing? Did someone miss 10th grade Sex Ed class last week?

Deep or open-mouthed kissing is a very low risk activity in terms of HIV transmission. HIV is only present in saliva in very minute amounts, insufficient to cause infection with HIV.

There has been only one documented case of someone becoming infected with HIV through kissing; a result of exposure to infected blood during open-mouthed kissing. If you or your partner have blood in your mouth, you should avoid kissing until the bleeding stops.That's ridiculous. What will all the cool vampire kids do back in the states if they follow this kind of advice?

Dastardley
10-21-10, 16:52
Gentlemen,

I was thinking about adding the interesting places in google map. I have a friend who has done this for poland and this is a great success. Anyone think this is a good idea?

Seems like a good idea to me. Someone did it for NE Beijing and it's helpful for newcomers.

D

Carage
10-21-10, 22:29
I don't get it. They're not open to Asians who speak Chinese?

Should I just speak English to them?

Will that get me in?Well, if you are Asian, speak fluent Chinese, then you could be a police informant for all they care. Sometimes they do reverse discrimination for safety reasons.

I Love Blondes
10-22-10, 20:17
Ok, I hope I don't get flamed for this one. I'm traveling to Shanghai in January and hoping to find white girls to have fun with. I know I know, why do this in China, you're probably asking but it's because I've been with a lot of asians (me being asian) and always looking for something different.

That being said, I've read in these forums about where to go (Manhattan, Malone's, Mint etc) but that leaves a lot to fate since who knows who I'll meet. I have very limited time there so I'm hoping to find something more reliable. I don't mind paying more if the quality is high. I've come across a bunch of agencies and independent websites and wondering if anyone has opinions or reviews about these:

Indy Aurora / Estel on a website with blondescort.com in the name.

escort-shanghaigirls.com
lux-escorts.com
russianescortshanghai.com
euroasia-escort.com
ana-asia-escort.com

Thanks for your help guys.

Hope I can write a good report after I'm there.

Hunghank
10-23-10, 00:46
Hello from Hawthorne, California.

Please help a hung and horney Californian out !!!!!!!!!!!

I will be in Shanghai next week for an 8 day business trip and some skirt chaseing.

My last trip 7 months ago, my old standby, the Shanghai Hotel and the inside spa is now totally closed.

I will be staying at the Ramada Plaza - Pudong at 18 Xia Jinqiao Rd; appx 1/2 the way from downtown and the Pudong Airport.

Is there any massage palors like the one in the closed Shanghai Hotel nearby, barber shop/spa's or good quality pickup joints in this area?

Also, I know I am at a disadvantage, but any big tit Chinese blossom queens in this area ??? I have a thing for asian big tits!

Where is the best places to go in this area?

Please help - I want this to be a fun visit and may never be back.

That's it. Hobby Safe and have fun.

HungHank

Hung and horney in Hawthorne, California.

Pushkin13
10-23-10, 01:47
... because I've been with a lot of asians (me being asian) and always looking for something different.

...

Indy Aurora / Estel on a website with blondescort.com in the name.

escort-shanghaigirls.com
lux-escorts.com
russianescortshanghai.com
euroasia-escort.com
ana-asia-escort.com

Thanks for your help guys.

Hope I can write a good report after I'm there.

Many of the bruvvers would love to help ... if you have previously helped the bruvvers.

What about writing up 5 or 10 of your field reports, and not allow your field notes and memories to become dusty and moth eaten?

P13

Golly Woggle
10-23-10, 02:57
So, I finally made it out to Siping station. I took the line 10 route but forgot about the little line 1 interchange walk. Line 8 would have been better. Regardless, I got there.

Heting, as reported, is easy to find once you know the address is 777 Siping Lu. You'll see some attendants standing in the driveway. And a third will usher you up the elevator.

I must say that I agree with what I've been reading. Heting is very nice inside.

The routine is. Routine. Same procedure. I waited for a little while after showering. Maybe 10 minutes. There seems to be some renovations going on next door which were rather loud but once I was in the room with the girl I didn't notice.

I was brought to another area where about 20 girls were waiting It was about 1:30PM, so quite early. Many cute young things. I took a risk and went with a tall beauty who wasn't exactly smiling, but I couldn't resist. It would turn out to be an interesting session.

She's #299. And very. If found out later. Very young. Things didn't quite start out so well. My basic mandarin skills seemed to cause a bit of confusion as we entered the room and she seemed a bit frustrated with the communication breakdown. But somehow we started teasing each other about it. And what I thought was going to be a disaster session, thawed into something pleasant.

We ended up skipping the whole cat routine. Not that I requested that, but we were too busy teasing each other, we ended up going through two rounds of fun.

The disappointing part. And the reason why I mention again that she's very young. Is that she was uncomfortable with most of the basics: kissing, DATY, and no blowjob.

What's with the youngsters these days? LOL. Further into the session she warmed up a bit. After she had me finger her until she came. And allowed me a few lightening-fast moments of DFK. Tease I suppose I really get turned on by a good tease because I managed two rounds without her mouth touching my little friend and barely a chance to kiss those beautiful lips of hers. To me this is a sign of a damn good girl. But she may be too much trouble for some, I suppose.

The main event was tight hard and loud. She really likes it and gets into it with passion. Another lightening-fast DFK happened here as well.

She's quite hilarious too. In between rounds, she started making fun of the couple next door. We could hear the pounding action. And she just decided to add the soundtrack. So funny. This girl should overdub porn movies in her spare time.

So, in the end, she was a lot of fun. Next time, although I like her, hopefully I can meet someone a little more experienced so we can enjoy a broader menu of fun.

G.

I Love Blondes
10-23-10, 04:28
Many of the bruvvers would love to help ... if you have previously helped the bruvvers.

What about writing up 5 or 10 of your field reports, and not allow your field notes and memories to become dusty and moth eaten?

P13I would if I had ever been in Shanghai before. Never mongered in China. So am I just on my own to take one for the team?

Chill Out
10-23-10, 07:22
Going to try Manhattan for the first time one of these days...A few questions:

1. Typical price I've seen quoted for LT was 1000 rmb, is that correct? How much would it be for ST?

2. How aggressive can you be in selecting your girl? How do you typically make a move?

3. For those who live here (as I do) - any input on securing your home/valuables etc when bringing an unknown WG over?

4. Best days of the week to go? Weekdays or weekends?

Any feedback appreciated.

Golly Woggle
10-23-10, 09:22
Today, with nothing much to do because of the crazy rain outside, I decided to figure out how to get to Bodi.

I loaded their contact page on my iPhone and hunted down a taxi. It really isn't the easiest place for a cab to find. Next time I'll load the google map and show them that instead.

I think I walked into the right place. Facing the front of the hotel, I walked into the front-facing left-side entrance. There's a small lobby with a security guard and a girl behind the counter. I asked "Sauna? " The security guard looked at me with an awkward smile. The girl behind the counter, smiled and said "Foot Massage only. ".

Damn. All that effort to get there and. Nothing. I'm not Asian. So no undercover cop look here. Maybe it's really closed.

Since this is the last real weekend for the Expo. Standard tickets anyway. There are a ton of tourists here; and perhaps places are playing extra safe this weekend. Who knows. Maybe the rain? I have no clue.

Disappointed I headed over to Sarcosa where I was told I'd have to wait 1. 5hrs. So I just left. Disappointed yet again. I walked past the massage joint I ended up in the other night and there was a different cutie sitting there. By this time I was soaked like sad dog, so I really just wanted to head home to dry off. Here I am. Hopefully the rain will let up soon and I'll head back out. Somewhere.

Rain rain go away, I need to monger on this miserable day.

G.

Mikemann
10-23-10, 14:42
Hello from Hawthorne, California.

Please help a hung and horney Californian out!

I will be in Shanghai next week for an 8 day business trip and some skirt chaseing.

My last trip 7 months ago, my old standby, the Shanghai Hotel and the inside spa is now totally closed.

I will be staying at the Ramada Plaza - Pudong at 18 Xia Jinqiao Rd; appx 1/2 the way from downtown and the Pudong Airport.

Is there any massage palors like the one in the closed Shanghai Hotel nearby, barber shop/spa's or good quality pickup joints in this area?

Also, I know I am at a disadvantage, but any big tit Chinese blossom queens in this area ??? I have a thing for asian big tits!

Where is the best places to go in this area?

Please help - I want this to be a fun visit and may never be back.

That's it. Hobby Safe and have fun.

HungHank

Hung and horney in Hawthorne, California.Boutique Hotel Sauna (Bodi) is your best bet. Search the forum and you'll find a post about it. It's on Pudong side about 30min/35 RMB taxi ride from Ramada.

Priapic
10-23-10, 14:43
You're near to

Bodi Boutique Business Hotel

http://www.bodiboutiquehotel.com/

Tel: +86 21 6163 3333
Fax: +86 21 6163 6276
Email:info@bodiboutiquehotel.com
Add: No. 1245 Longyang Road
Pudong New District, Shanghai 200127, P. R. China.

Which I can strongly recommend - RTFF for reports in early October


Hello from Hawthorne, California.

Please help a hung and horney Californian out !!!!!!!!!!!

I will be in Shanghai next week for an 8 day business trip and some skirt chaseing.

My last trip 7 months ago, my old standby, the Shanghai Hotel and the inside spa is now totally closed.

I will be staying at the Ramada Plaza - Pudong at 18 Xia Jinqiao Rd; appx 1/2 the way from downtown and the Pudong Airport.

Is there any massage palors like the one in the closed Shanghai Hotel nearby, barber shop/spa's or good quality pickup joints in this area?

Also, I know I am at a disadvantage, but any big tit Chinese blossom queens in this area ??? I have a thing for asian big tits!

Where is the best places to go in this area?

Please help - I want this to be a fun visit and may never be back.

That's it. Hobby Safe and have fun.

HungHank

Hung and horney in Hawthorne, California.

Money11
10-23-10, 14:43
I am staying at The Westin in a few weeks and am looking for any contacts who will come to my hotel give me a quality massage with some services. If anyone has anyone they recommend please PM me with the information.

Also are there any saunas walking distance from the Bund area.

Thanks for your help, I will provide reports on my activities

Mikemann
10-23-10, 14:44
Hello from Hawthorne, California.

Please help a hung and horney Californian out!

I will be in Shanghai next week for an 8 day business trip and some skirt chaseing.

My last trip 7 months ago, my old standby, the Shanghai Hotel and the inside spa is now totally closed.

I will be staying at the Ramada Plaza - Pudong at 18 Xia Jinqiao Rd; appx 1/2 the way from downtown and the Pudong Airport.

Is there any massage palors like the one in the closed Shanghai Hotel nearby, barber shop/spa's or good quality pickup joints in this area?

Also, I know I am at a disadvantage, but any big tit Chinese blossom queens in this area ??? I have a thing for asian big tits!

Where is the best places to go in this area?

Please help - I want this to be a fun visit and may never be back.

That's it. Hobby Safe and have fun.

HungHank

Hung and horney in Hawthorne, California.Boutique Hotel Sauna (Bodi) is your best bet.

Search the forum and you'll find a post about it. It's on Pudong side about
30min / 35 RMB taxi ride from Ramada.

I Love Blondes
10-23-10, 17:40
Many of the bruvvers would love to help ... if you have previously helped the bruvvers.

What about writing up 5 or 10 of your field reports, and not allow your field notes and memories to become dusty and moth eaten?

P13I would if I had ever been to Shanghai before. I've never mongered in China. So does this mean I'm on my own to take one for the team?

Golly Woggle
10-23-10, 18:49
So, I ventured back out into the rain this evening and decided to have a closer look at the girl in that massage joint I reported (directions to seniors in PM).

Today my luck ran dry and not only that, I was stupid again. The girl was ok, but definitely NOT the same calibre as the cutie I met the other night. I need to learn to be more picky and turn and walk away. She had a decent way about her. Was cute. Took a good hard fucking. But nowhere as sexy an experience as my first. And I won't go into how much she relieved my wallet either. Stupid stupid me. Lesson: if you want the massage, take it but be ready to pay for it (makes sense nothing wrong with that). If you want sex, ask for it right away, especially when you know it's there to have (save some $). Be careful with the upsell. Stupid me paid extra for a so-so BBBJ. If I hadn't have overpaid I would feel somewhat decent about the experience. Oh well, next time.

I wandered afterward towards some food and found a few interesting prospects I'll check out another night. One was off on a small side street near home and was packed with, what I could tell from afar, better calibre girls than what I had just "enjoyed". Hopefully I'll have another positive report to write soon.

G.

Pushkin13
10-24-10, 04:11
I would if I had ever been to Shanghai before. I've never mongered in China. So does this mean I'm on my own to take one for the team?

Reports and reminiscences from any country: acceptable.

Only legal age and above.

Time period: 1992 and earlier reports will probably be of little interest. Why 1992, I can hear you ask? That was the year that bruvver Bill became President of the US of A! :) :)

Mister Untitled
10-24-10, 04:21
Hi there,

When I am in shanghai, I know a place for nice massage place with happy ending (HJ).

This place is called footbathclub and its location is in Baoshan district, at the crossing of Mudanjiang lu (牡丹江路) and baoyang lu (宝杨支路).

You can have massage for an hour for a price around 100 RMB (japannese massage is 98, another one is 118,...). While she massages you, when you lay on your chest, she will massage your butt and between your legs, also "play" a little bit with your willy. Depending on you, she will ask if you wish HJ. This will cost you 100 RMB to give her directly, not at the cashier when you will pay for massage.

Warning: girls don't speak english.

Good point: Most of girls I saw there are young and pretty. Not beauties, but cute anyway. No fatties. And depends on you and the girl, she can also offer you to leave with you for the night (one asked me something like 500 or 600 RMB) and bring her to your hotel for the night.

Amadeuss
10-24-10, 12:52
Was strolling through Shanghai past 3 days. But excepot getting soaked by rain , no other soaking happened>

All the older BBS which I know along ChangDeLu are gone. Some are now property sales shops, some are real barbershops with male barbers.

The pubs cum brothels in walking distance from TianAn Temple are gone..closed...

The fun massage at Shanghai hotel is closed and upstairs they only offer oil massage for 400 RMB - handjob. I also tried others in that area..all the same. One of the counter-guys explained to me: No sex in Shanghai now. Wait..

Bad time of my visit. Manhatten may be one of the only options. But why to pay 1000 RMB now when in 2 days I get the same service from Chinese girls in Kuala Lumpur for 80 RM = 200 RMB... so... better to wait on greener pastures. Pity you residents now here...

Dickie Robert
10-24-10, 13:14
Crack down continues in Shanghai as Expo winds down.

I am a regular at Xinhe (was the old Zhong Tian) below Maxdo Plaza and my regular girl there told me that most saunas in Shanghai are either closed or operating at reduced hours (e. G., Xinhe is closed BTW 7. 10PM except for regulars).

No idea if things will lighten up after the Expo. So everyone be safe out there.

Dickie

Jes007
10-24-10, 18:20
Went there on saturday around 1045PM and it was almost empty, only guys and a few girls. It was soaking ran outside and I thought this has prevented the girls to come. However after 1130PM the pace started to get packed with more girls. The quality seems to be mixed, low compared to my previous visits. I was waiting for on Philipina I spoke with last time but (couldn't get her since my friend wanted to go with her) she didn't show up. She is the quite girls who always sit alone with white wine and she is really georgious.

After a while I spoke with few girls Maria from Philipines and one other from Vietnam. They wanted 2000 for long time. I said 1500 but they didn't want go down. I said ok and just left. Finally ended up with Cathy who I met last time (photos in the photo section). She was great!

I stayed at the Golden Tulip Puxi Ashar Suites and It was ok and girl friendly, at least nobody asked anything. Only complaint is that the bed is hard and the internet is slow. Very convenient location as it's only 2 blocks from Manhattan.

Carage
10-24-10, 19:23
Also, I know I am at a disadvantage, but any big tit Chinese blossom queens in this area ??? I have a thing for asian big tits!I have a thing for Asian big tits too.

Speaking from experience, Bodi and their sister store, Southern (located behind Nanfang Shangcheng), both feature a crew of top heavy Asian women.

Jes007
10-25-10, 08:35
Guys,

Can anyone tell me what's the going rates in Manhattan now? It seems like 1200-1500 for short time and 2000 for ling time. Am I correct or am I being ripped off?

Makeupaname
10-25-10, 09:45
Guys,

Can anyone tell me what's the going rates in Manhattan now? It seems like 1200-1500 for short time and 2000 for ling time. Am I correct or am I being ripped off?

I think you being ripped off. 600 for ST and 1000 LT is doable with little or no negotiating (of course a few girls may refuse). maybe its because you're to selective or arriving to early, try going after midnight.