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Masslin
10-23-13, 09:47
Hi Bro,

Are you asking the total damage of the service in the shop mentioned by Sarawak50?


I was walking along Loushanguan road in direction Changning road as I saw 2-3 massage shops on the right side of the road. One of them had a board in front of the shop with types of massage and prices. I went in, a lady was at the desk and I asked for "90 min. Paradise bath massage" for 298 rmb. I was brought to the room upstairs. Clean and there was a wooden tub and also a shower there. The ML came in around 30 yo no bad looking, a bit meaty with nice boobs. Wearing a very short dress. She put a plastic foile into the wooden tub and let water in. In the mean time she started to strongly massage my back side. I liked the massage. As the tub was full she asked to go in and started loafing my body. The little brother got a special cleaning by hand. The whole time she didn't say anything and my Mandarin is Zero. After around 25 min in the tub I was lead back to the bed. Dried up by warm towles what I like very much. Again little brothe got special treatment. On the bed again strong back massage. I started touching and cruising and everything was allowed also fingering. After a while I turned on the back and she put off everything. She lied literally on me and started kissing and moving up and dowm, mourning but not too loud. She turned her body so that can start BJ and putting her pussy on my nose more or less. Afterwards we did missionary, doggy till I exploded in her. 90 min were more than over as I left. Very nice experience.

The whole action without saying a lot or better very few words but for sure I ll be back soon.That shop was named Tao Yuan Ju Foot Bath and located on the Loushanguan Lu as well. In that shop the total damage of push oil (the service described by Sarawak50) is only 298 RMB. If you want to get more info about Tao Yuan Ju Foot Bath you may check it out on Happy Massage.

Canada
10-23-13, 10:02
Spent 2 days in Shanghai and went to Manhatten Monday night about 10. Pretty well full by then with mostly Vietnamese. A few Chinese also. Plenty of variety but I had my heart set on a little spinner. 2 very good ones already there. Unfortunately 1 got taken out by 10:30 so I decided I better talk to the one left. Started out at 4000 RMB and I just told here to get serious. Immediately came down to 2000LT and 1200ST (2 hours). I had to get up early so I.

Wasn't sure I wanted LT. Offered 800ST (3hrs) and 1500LT She wouldn't budge so I said no problem and let her go. Ordered another beer and talked to a couple other possibilities. Ran into the first girl a couple times and asked if she changed her mind. She said no I finished my beer and grabbed my jacket and said goodbye to her. At this point she decided to change her mind. I kept her ST for 800. Great little body, great attitude. Loved oral both giving and receiving. Went from oral to sex and she came unglued. After about 10 minutes she asked if I would finish in her mouth. Off came the condom and she gave me the best blowjob handless that I have had in awhile. Came in her mouth and she swirled it around letting it drip down her chin and licking it back up. After playing with it for about a minute she went to the bathroom. I don't think she swallowed.

Then she asked if I wanted a massage. Gave me about a 20 minute massage nothing special but great effort. We talked for awhile and she informed me that if she didn't like a guy she stuck on the 4000. That way if she ended up with him she would put up with it. If she likes you its 1500 if not it goes up from there.

Egb5811
10-23-13, 19:06
"helenandfriends" I don`t know, the "unforgettableshanghai" at least works with faked pictures.

Even they call it "actual" (you can check them with picture search) , most pics are "borrowed" from other pages.

You also can check out:

http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/real-escort-girls/

This is a collection of the less real girls profiles you can find in Shanghai.

Enjoy your trip,

StevenThanks, are there any services that use real pictures on their sites as I can be quite picky and don't want to be disappointed if a different girl arrives?

Trawlerman
10-23-13, 20:18
I seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). Really liked the place. There are quite decent sauna facilities as well as massage and if I had more time, I would have spent a lot longer here. Girl selection is from a fish bowl; there were about a dozen girls available when I was there. Late afternoon. In looks, the quality was mixed. There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) Anyway, she was a great choice and turned out to have a prettier face than I quite realised in the bowl, and a very nice slim body with tiny tits but slightly hard nipples, that felt good when rubbed against my various softer parts. Best of all, she had a great attitude and I finally got to have a proper nuru. (See earlier posts about trying to find nuru instead of soap massage.) AR was enthusiastic and erotic, excellent BBBJ, and sex that had her orgasming (or convincingly pretending to) several times. 880 RMB. Afterwards I showered again and went through to the relaxation area, were I had an ear massage (80RMB) from a very friendly girl (#1 of the ear girls) whose curvy body fit very nicely around my legs while she gave my ears a thorough service. She was very interested in my younger brother and wanted me to get her to stay for a massage, which I guess would have involved HE at least. But I needed to leave and declined. Just before I went a cute foot massage girl (#5) dressed in a sailor's outfit came into the room smiling and seductive. Wish I had time to stay.

TM

Beijing4987
10-24-13, 00:32
Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost?

BJ.

Seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). Really liked the place. There are quite decent sauna facilities as well as massage and if I had more time, I would have spent a lot longer here. Girl selection is from a fish bowl; there were about a dozen girls available when I was there. Late afternoon. In looks, the quality was mixed. There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) Anyway, she was a great choice and turned out to have a prettier face than I quite realised in the bowl, and a very nice slim body with tiny tits but slightly hard nipples, that felt good when rubbed against my various softer parts. Best of all, she had a great attitude and I finally got to have a proper nuru. (See earlier posts about trying to find nuru instead of soap massage.) AR was enthusiastic and erotic, excellent BBBJ, and sex that had her orgasming (or convincingly pretending to) several times. 880 RMB. Afterwards I showered again and went through to the relaxation area, were I had an ear massage (80RMB) from a very friendly girl (#1 of the ear girls) whose curvy body fit very nicely around my legs while she gave my ears a thorough service. She was very interested in my younger brother and wanted me to get her to stay for a massage, which I guess would have involved HE at least. But I needed to leave and declined. Just before I went a cute foot massage girl (#5) dressed in a sailor's outfit came into the room smiling and seductive. Wish I had time to stay.

TM[/QUOTE]

Carage
10-24-13, 01:40
Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost?

BJ.

Seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). Really liked the place. There are quite decent sauna facilities as well as massage and if I had more time, I would have spent a lot longer here. Girl selection is from a fish bowl; there were about a dozen girls available when I was there. Late afternoon. In looks, the quality was mixed. There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) Anyway, she was a great choice and turned out to have a prettier face than I quite realised in the bowl, and a very nice slim body with tiny tits but slightly hard nipples, that felt good when rubbed against my various softer parts. Best of all, she had a great attitude and I finally got to have a proper nuru. (See earlier posts about trying to find nuru instead of soap massage.) AR was enthusiastic and erotic, excellent BBBJ, and sex that had her orgasming (or convincingly pretending to) several times. 880 RMB. Afterwards I showered again and went through to the relaxation area, were I had an ear massage (80RMB) from a very friendly girl (#1 of the ear girls) whose curvy body fit very nicely around my legs while she gave my ears a thorough service. She was very interested in my younger brother and wanted me to get her to stay for a massage, which I guess would have involved HE at least. But I needed to leave and declined. Just before I went a cute foot massage girl (#5) dressed in a sailor's outfit came into the room smiling and seductive. Wish I had time to stay.

TM[/QUOTE]The place does not offer oil massage with HE.

Technically the place does not really offer massage, it is a FS joint.

The only class of service they offer is the nuru massage for 880 RMB. (yes, that would be your base price for 1 girl)

If the girls like you maybe you can get 5 minutes of an actual massage out of them, otherwise the water massage is nothing like a real massage.

I am not saying it doesn't feel good, but it is totally different.

If a legit massage is what you seek, I suggest you walk across the street to the Kangen Massage next to the computer shop, but they don't offer HE.

SiYuan does offer some extras, like the Ear Cleaning or the Foot Massage service.

For the ear cleaning, the basic price is about 100 RMB for 15 minutes of service.

They usually offer a package which includes the HE, the ear picking, and a head and shoulders massage.

Approximately an hour of service.

For the foot massage, I don't remember what the base price was.

But I think it was around 150 RMB for 30 minutes of service.

You get a legit foot massage with oil. The only part missing from the foot massage is the part where you put your feet in a wooden hot tub smelling like Chinese herbs.

Of course it can also be tagged along with add-ons. There is also a package which includes the HE and thigh massage probably costing around 500 RMB as well.

In the spa area, if you like to get scrubbed, there is a guy who scrubs customers clean with wet sponges and towels.

It is rough but I actually enjoy the experience of seeing all the dead skin being scrubbed off.

This service is technically free and included as part of the 880 base price, but the bathing salt is 50 extra.

BionicMan
10-24-13, 02:44
Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost? BJ.I don't think they have been discussing the fate of world economy. LOL I think they offer more than HE, of course it is up to you how you want to end.

BionicMan
10-24-13, 02:45
I seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). TMGood report.

To help fellow BM, it is worth to say that the Merrilyn Hotel is located opposite the Intercontinental Pudong Hotel.

Cathy Wong
10-24-13, 15:37
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Mighty Spearsman
10-25-13, 15:53
Changhang Merrilyn Hotel, Siyuan SPA

There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) I've also experienced honest manager-guys. One guess is that they realize that it's not good for business if a customer has a bad experience; another guess, assuming you're non-Chinese, is that he is steering you away from the girls who are uncomfortable with westerners. And I'm not surprised to read that many of the older girls are more likely to provide better service, both from experience and because they may lose their job otherwise.

Shanghai Guide
10-25-13, 22:23
Thanks, are there any services that use real pictures on their sites as I can be quite picky and don't want to be disappointed if a different girl arrives?I guess there are all together not more than 20 to 30 girls in the whole city Shanghai who will be available in the internet with real pictures, so forget to find any agency who works with real pictures. We try to bring them all to our page and I guess we are successfull with 50% now. So I guess all other escort directories and agency pages together will have very less real girls you will not find on our page. And it will be hard to pick out the less real girls there, because they will be one of 100 faked girls profiles. Don`t think if the picture looks like "homemade", it will be real. A lot of agencies already found out that kind of pictures works, so they use faked "private" pictures. By the way, it doesn`t matter, if the agency or directory will tell you: 100% real picture and so on. All of them are still happy with the 25 to 50% of the customers who don`t send the girl back, if she is different from the pictures. In fact, all the girls and agencies who use faked pictures and faked profiles finally make more money than the girls who use real profiles, because the sexy pictures of models attract 10 times more customers than real pictures of real available girls, so even if 80 % of the customers send them back, they still have double income of a girl who work with real pictures, so there is not even a need for them to use their real profiles. That`s why it is so hard for us to find girls for our page who agree to work with real pictures. Even we have a lot of visitors and customers for them. I think all that faked profiles here in the city are also a little bit customers fault, because too many of you guys still pay the "wrong girl", so there is no motivation for any agency to provide real girls. If they can find enough guys who pay a lot for a "faked" girl, why they should spend any effort to present real profiles?

There is one trick, how you have a chance to find out if the profiles are real or not. Don`t agree to let them come to your room. Insist to meet them at the hotel bar or in the lobby. If they work with faked profiles, it is hard for them to tell you how to find the girl in the bar (because than they have to tell you not to search for the girl on the picture) and the girl also will have more problems to make you trouble and fight with you for the taxi money if you don`t accept her (normally they will not leave your room without 100 or 200 RMB for "taxi-money", if you send them back). But on the other side also bad for the honest girls, if you meet them outside your room. I know some real girls who don`t accept that, because they often got the experience, that they drive to a meeting point and no customer showed up (by the way, the girls told me also, that 2 from 10 customers who make appointments are also "fakes" and never show up. I have no idea, why guys think it is funny to call a girl to a hotel room, where there is no guest. This is reason, why some girls and agencies will doublecheck by calling you back in your hotel room).

Carage
10-26-13, 00:33
I've also experienced honest manager-guys. One guess is that they realize that it's not good for business if a customer has a bad experience; another guess, assuming you're non-Chinese, is that he is steering you away from the girls who are uncomfortable with westerners. And I'm not surprised to read that many of the older girls are more likely to provide better service, both from experience and because they may lose their job otherwise.I think that is just the manager's way of telling the customer that the girl doesn't like foreigners without explicitly saying it.

GregoryB
10-26-13, 08:42
Cathy's website cited in classifieds obviously states something that she only sees "white western" guys. Our co colleague M S commented that she will miss out a lot of business.

Luckily it lets me not compete with the wealthy Chinese friends, haha. I always prefer "low frequented" ones. If she looses a lot of opportunities she obviously is picky and can afford to.

Gregory

Beijing4987
10-27-13, 06:22
I'm still looking for new naughty talent in the oil.

Massage department Looking for gals who are not the "don't touch me there" type. The take it off, grind the pussy into my face type. DFK is a plus!

BJ

I reunited with a "good girl" type who many have enjoyed. PM me for details. Sam, are you interested?

BaconAndEggs
10-27-13, 13:12
Skepti10,

Went to Yinghua and Dujuan. Saw girls in the front of shops, but they said "massage" on them. Is this where you are getting FS without even pretension of a massage? I've been to massage places and negotiated extras but I would like to find what you describe here. Walk in, FS, no BS.

Thanks


Another 141 xpost from yesterday:

Today I checked out the bbs on Zhengli road, went back to Yinghua as well as scouting out another posters info on lanhua and dujuan road.

First Zhengli. Get off the train at Jiangwan town station, exit out of the east side exits, walk north to Zhengli road and head east. The shops are on the north side of the street. Now the reports I've read about this was over a year old so there was a chance of a ghost town, and yes...

Skepti10
10-27-13, 23:48
Skepti10,

Went to Yinghua and Dujuan. Saw girls in the front of shops, but they said "massage" on them. Is this where you are getting FS without even pretension of a massage? I've been to massage places and negotiated extras but I would like to find what you describe here. Walk in, FS, no BS.

ThanksNo idea, when I went there my eyes was solely focused on the girls and not the shop sign.

I'd say as long as you see girls in a lot if makeup and short skirts sitting In front of the shop then it should be a FS place, especially on those two streets.

R The Man
10-28-13, 05:38
Hey guys, had one night to party on my business trip, so after perusing the board, decided to hit Manhattan for the first time, then try the sauna at Shanghai Hotel (for old times sake. My first sauna experience in China a few years ago) the next day. Well, I never made it to the sauna because I was still recovering from a fabulous night with the hottie I picked up at Manhattan.

Got there about 10:30 and it was already packed. Small place, all the bar and table chairs were taken by guys, and there were wall to wall women of all shapes and sizes (but not too many fatties, thank goodness). Most were above 6 (my rating for do-able) and there were many 8-9, but no obvious 10's to my eye. Still, it was like being in a candy store. Finally got a seat, but it was very difficult to make a decision with so many choices. I was on my own, and 3-4 girls came up to talk.they tended to be the less hot ones, and they didn't seem to mind chatting but then moving on when it was clear I wasn't interested.

I only speak English, even though I am Chinese, so perhaps that limited my choices. But eventually I got to "chatting" with a lovely, petite Viet (called An Wa, or something like that) , who didn't speak much English but was very sweet with a great smile. She said she was 26 but looked younger (I guess they all do) and she asked for 1000 ST. I know I overpaid, but she was sweet and exactly my type, so I didn't try to negotiate her down.

I was a little worried in the taxi because she didn't seem too interactive. Just holding hands, a little reluctant to kiss, but turns out she was just a little shy. In the hotel it was clear that she was gorgeous. An 8. 5 to my eye, slim, petite, perfect size B tits, a lovely curved ass, and supersoft skin. And as soon as she cleaned up, she became a sweet girlfriend, with fantastic DFK, licking everywhere, an above average BBBJ, and any positions that I wanted or could think of. She was shaved and DATY was delicious. Her moans were realistic (if not real, then a good actress) , and she really made sure that I was happy. The finish was explosive, and she stayed a long time cuddling and kissing afterwards. We did a bit of "talking" with Google translate, but I'm not in this hobby for the relationships, just the sex, and it was excellent! Just sorry I didn't have time to tap her again during this trip.

Anyway, I hobby all over the world, but this was an A-1 experience, so thanks for the all reports, and safe hobbying, boys!

R.

Ringer5
10-28-13, 22:55
Skepti10,

Went to Yinghua and Dujuan. Saw girls in the front of shops, but they said "massage" on them. Is this where you are getting FS without even pretension of a massage? I've been to massage places and negotiated extras but I would like to find what you describe here. Walk in, FS, no BS.

ThanksIf you see a girl at the door in a short black skirt, with a reception desk inside, it's a massage place where you will get a shower, massage, HE and possibly more by individual negotiation depending on the girl and her mood.

If you can see through the window to an area with girls sitting around looking obviously sexy / glamorous in gowns or nurse costumes, it's a BBS where you will get FS (not much more or less!)

FSnowdon
10-29-13, 13:43
Hey,

I know from reading this forum that there are a lot of cheaper / better options out there, however, I have a fantasy of picking up a girl in the bar of a hotel and bringing her up to my room. I know it won't really be anything like the idea in my head, but I'd like to give it a try. Unfortunately, most of what I've seen on forums seems to be non-specific (e. G. Phrases like "probably a hotel like","maybe in hotel X").

Does anyone have any specific recommendations for hotels (in Shanghai, obviously) where I'm likely to be approached by a hot, well-dressed, discrete girl? I'm interested mostly in good quality hotels (4/5-star / luxury). Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

Frank

Ham And Bacon
10-29-13, 16:06
Hey,

I know from reading this forum that there are a lot of cheaper / better options out there, however, I have a fantasy of picking up a girl in the bar of a hotel and bringing her up to my room. I know it won't really be anything like the idea in my head, but I'd like to give it a try. Unfortunately, most of what I've seen on forums seems to be non-specific (e. G. Phrases like "probably a hotel like","maybe in hotel X").

Does anyone have any specific recommendations for hotels (in Shanghai, obviously) where I'm likely to be approached by a hot, well-dressed, discrete girl? I'm interested mostly in good quality hotels (4/5-star / luxury). Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

FrankI have experience in Equatorial hotel close to Jin'An temple. The lobby bar is usually somebody. Once I pick to my room a girl for LT with 1300. Last time there was one but I didn't need any. Usually there is a girl sitting alone and having a cup of tea. Maybe she is reading something or messaging with a phone. Just take a contact and you see if she is available. They want to keep a low profile. You make an eye contact, she smiles to you. Walk close and she will ask you what you want.

In Shanghai hotel I have never seen anybody. Those who looks like WG were going to somebody and were not available at that point. In JinAn hotel I have never seen anybody neither in Shanghai city hotel.

Shanghai hotel sauna goes as usual. At 11pm there was a selection of 8 girls. All ok. No red rope but good service. The only problem was too eager boys who want to help and then wait for a tip. 800 damage.

SamCan
10-30-13, 00:11
Hey,

I know from reading this forum that there are a lot of cheaper / better options out there, however, I have a fantasy of picking up a girl in the bar of a hotel and bringing her up to my room. I know it won't really be anything like the idea in my head, but I'd like to give it a try. Unfortunately, most of what I've seen on forums seems to be non-specific (e. G. Phrases like "probably a hotel like","maybe in hotel X").

Does anyone have any specific recommendations for hotels (in Shanghai, obviously) where I'm likely to be approached by a hot, well-dressed, discrete girl? I'm interested mostly in good quality hotels (4/5-star / luxury). Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

FrankShanghai Hilton in Jing An. Go to the 39th floor. It has the bar and view of the city. When you walk in there are 3 round tables across from the bar. There are almost always a girl at each table. I have seen 6-7s regularly. I actually sat and talked to an 8+ (in English) and could have had her. I had other plans so I left.

Sheraton Hongqiao always has a couple or 3 girls in the lobby / bar area. There is one that is about 30. If you sit alone she will beckon you over. There are 2 other girls there usually as well. If they are alone, strike up a conversation. You won't sleep alone

Sam

Trawlerman
10-30-13, 19:41
Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost?

BJ.Sorry, no idea. The massage mentioned was in the relaxation area.

Trawlerman
10-30-13, 19:54
I've also experienced honest manager-guys. One guess is that they realize that it's not good for business if a customer has a bad experience; another guess, assuming you're non-Chinese, is that he is steering you away from the girls who are uncomfortable with westerners. And I'm not surprised to read that many of the older girls are more likely to provide better service, both from experience and because they may lose their job otherwise.Agreed. It is probably a combination of all these things. One worry is the manager-guy is also motivated to give work to girls who haven't been selected recently, usually because they are not so good-looking. I'm not too keen on taking his first recommendation for that reason but I'll ask for his view of girls I select myself. It's an extra source of information. Although smiling eyes from a girl who I also find attractive, if not the most attractive, is still the best indication.

TM

Willa1
10-30-13, 22:05
According to Google Maps, Xinyuping Sauna is practically right across the street to the hotel.

I've never been there, but I have heard stories that they have a huge lineup but wait time is also very long.

1733 Lian Hua Lu&8206;

Min Hang Qu, Shanghai, China. 201103Great trip to Asia this week for work that included 5 days in Shanghai, including 2 Friday nights. Trip started with an arrival mid afternoon into Shanghai & a stay at the Warner Inn Hotel in Caoheling Hi Tech Park, Lianhua Road. Arrived at the hotel around 4 PM, decided to see if I could find the Xinyuping Sauna, which was supposed to be across the street at 1733 Lian Hua Lu (near Yishan Road). Found the Sauna in a small 2 story building behind the Huana Hotel. Just walk down the driveway to the right of the hotel, all the way to the back – it will be on the left. This place was very good. Started out upstairs in a private waiting room with TV where the ear massage, foot massage girls try to sell you a quick massage. Decided not to – and about 10 minutes wait, was brought back to the viewing window. 30-40 girls of all shapes, sizes, and ages are behind the glass. I had no trouble finding a young slim girl that met my specs. She brought me upstairs to the room where you got out of your clothes (no shower, all valuables stay in a closet in the room with you). Started with the washdown, body massage (front & back) , then dry off for the main event. Cat bath, credible kissing, BBBJ, FS, and rest time – then final rinse. All & all 90 minutes – and lots of fun. No English (#853) – but playful & not mechanical at all. Overall a quality 90 minutes for 880 RMB.

I repeated the following Tuesday with equal success (again around 5 PM – but the place was more crowded (5 guys at the viewing window)) – but still plenty of selection. I would strongly recommend this place. I have been to Bodi a half dozen times (3 or 4 good. 2 mechanical) – and this is equal or better. Try it out!

Had the opportunity on the trip to be in Shanghai on 2 Friday nights – and spent both at the Swissotel (girl friendly) and Manhatten. On both occasions, guys outnumbered gals – probably 2:1 – but guys 'buying' still had choice selection. Arrive both times after dinner at Malones (nothing going on when I leftat11) to arrive to a full Manhatten – and great selection. Both nights, ended up with a Vietnamese girl – and it was excellent. First night, LT (midnight to 8:30AM) for 1600 RMB (I know. Expensive) – but well worth it for me. She did not look like the typical working girl (shirt / jeans, subdued makeup) – flirted for 15 minutes – allowed me to ask the question in my own time. And off to the races. Everything on the table – so good first round, sleep in close contact – and woke up to a blow jobat7:30 – and finished with nice slow event from behind. Second a week later was ST for 1, 000, 11-1, and very playful. Incredible place – worth the trip. Bangkok report posted later today.

Will

Arizona123
11-01-13, 02:42
One thing I learned from the girls, if you're Chinese (or Chinese looking) and look too serious, they might think you're an LE. Smile more, actively talk to the girls, let your hands wander all over her, get her comfortable. Once the girls see you chatting up someone, they will come over.


I only speak English, even though I am Chinese, so perhaps that limited my choices. But eventually I got to "chatting" with a lovely, petite Viet (called An Wa, or something like that) , who didn't speak much English but was very sweet with a great smile. She said she was 26 but looked younger (I guess they all do) and she asked for 1000 ST. I know I overpaid, but she was sweet and exactly my type, so I didn't try to negotiate her down.

R.

BaconAndEggs
11-01-13, 15:41
Went back to Yinghua and Dujuan to do the deed, Friday night around 2130. I am Western so there is no faking it. The ladies on Dujuan were much more enthusiastic trying to wave me in than on Yinghua, maybe because there was much more foot traffic on Yinghua. Anyway I liked how the shops on Dujuan were all together and did not think there was a difference in quality. Saw a tiny little spinner and went in, but was approached by another. She started with 400, I said 200 she said no, so I said 300 and no again. I turned around to leave and she said yes. I then pointed to the little one I had my eye on and was waved off. Took the negotiator who was also tiny but with huge tits. Just as Skepti10 reported, even though the sign says "massage" there is no pretending. Straight to business. Once in the back she said BBBJ was 100 more, declined. Again, I heeded Skepti10's advice and stuck with standing mish. The lady was nice looking and in good shape, but both she and the room are used in quick succession. As I was leaving the next guy was coming in! All said, it was a nice quick hit for 300. I think I will try one of the other shops that were more enthusiastic about waving a foreigner in, stick with them, and try to get the price down.

NakedSun
11-01-13, 17:36
Hi!

I'll be in Shanghai for several days and my travel agent booked me to the Salvo hotel. The location seems to be good for sightseeing but is there any good massage parlors around? Or any other good tip is appreciated. All the nice places seems to be rather far away. Sorry for such rather stupid questions. I have never been in Shanghai before (only Beijing). And I don't speak any Chinese either.

NotAClue
11-01-13, 23:59
Burned more money than normal within a week, getting completely opposite results. Definitely something learned.

Being in a rush, or at least not having time enough to travel more than 5 minutes, I decided to check out the absolute closest MP around, one I'd probably avoid in most circumstances. Just your very typical shop, typically with someone standing inside the door trying to draw attention kind of place. Passed by plenty of times and noticed a bit older average age, low 30s, and a complete lack of consistency in how they dressed; less than half the time the standard white top and black miniskirt, sometimes casual to the point that they look like customers instead. Anyhow, stepped in and obviously the least attractive in the lobby was up on rotation, but hardly something to argue when you're pressed for time. By far the smallest and dingiest room / shower I've ever seen, and everything else equally bad to go with it, from the bed to even the soap and towels. For a first time, had little choice but to go with the 200 oil massage the ML insisted on for lack of knowing the alternative, and it turned out to be a 30 minute mostly bland affair. On hearing a direct request for a tip, I was already regretting the whole thing but whatever. 300 total just to be done with it all. She somehow managed to finish up within 5 minutes (record low for me, I think) and that was all, shower and get out. Turns out I completely forgot how much cash I was carrying, and it was enough for the lady to see too; suddenly, it became 300 tip + 200 for massage, and as much of a scam this all was the extra money just wasn't worth arguing and getting past a lobby of women, especially when short on time. Worst 500 ever spent, massage places are everywhere but explore at your own peril if no one's ever given it a thumbs-up. Also explains why I think I've only ever seen one person leaving this particular shop, though I pass by all the time.

Gudao Health Spa on Changning, first purely HE place I ever went to, went again while in the area. Actually got a decent massage for once and ridiculously hot catbath from a fairly common-type 7, close to 30 but affectionate and willing to communicate despite broken language. Voluntarily took top off to give a tit massage and later panties as well to get fingered, kinda rare to find in my experience, especially without asking. So much effort was put into the first part that she couldn't get me to finish in the last 15 minutes, and she said her arm was too tired to continue. How about switching to a different girl for another hour? Was feeling pretty high after the first hour and decided to just go with it, and wasn't disappointed. The replacement was a fairly skinny girl almost 1.7m / 5'7ish tall, probably easy to find again even without knowing a number given that height. Was really quiet and seemingly the shy type, unsure if that was natural or because of language barrier, but it wasn't in a bad way. Since the normal massage part was already done, this was straight HJ bliss for an hour. Normally wouldn't notice much from any HJ (they're all basically serviceable) but she used both hands the entire time, frequently varying her technique, and non-mechanical. There's just something to be said about getting someone's undivided attention, no stopping or needing to rest, particularly when when being kept on edge the whole hour from how good it all is, that you can't get any other way. Only thing to complain about was her trying to get yet another person involved near the end, which just seemed excessive; going 2 hours straight is one thing, but who can reasonably expect to last for 3 on one pop? Got the happiest ending, the kind like "dayum, where'd that come from?" and took a long shower in the aftermath. Place with nice facilities, even better than home. 496 for the twofer and would come back for either, especially the second one to see if she might warm up a bit next time. On the more expensive side, but just lying back to enjoy for two hours well worth it.

Beijing4987
11-02-13, 07:48
NAC. Can you go back to the Guodao Spa and get the worker numbet for the gal that you fingered. I dpend too much time trying to track down a location and find s particular provider with inadequate information. There is Changning street and an area called Changning. Get a card from the place and ask for her "gong ren hao ma.

BJ.

Burned more money than normal within a week, getting completely opposite results. Definitely something learned.

Being in a rush, or at least not having time enough to travel more than 5 minutes, I decided to check out the absolute closest MP around, one I'd probably avoid in most circumstances. Just your very typical shop, typically with someone standing inside the door trying to draw attention kind of place. Passed by plenty of times and noticed a bit older average age, low 30s, and a complete lack of consistency in how they dressed; less than half the time the standard white top and black miniskirt, sometimes casual to the point that they look like customers instead. Anyhow, stepped in and obviously the least attractive in the lobby was up on rotation, but hardly something to argue when you're pressed for time. By far the smallest and dingiest room / shower I've ever seen, and everything else equally bad to go with it, from the bed to even the soap and towels. For a first time, had little choice but to go with the 200 oil massage the ML insisted on for lack of knowing the alternative, and it turned out to be a 30 minute mostly bland affair. On hearing a direct request for a tip, I was already regretting the whole thing but whatever. 300 total just to be done with it all. She somehow managed to finish up within 5 minutes (record low for me, I think) and that was all, shower and get out. Turns out I completely forgot how much cash I was carrying, and it was enough for the lady to see too; suddenly, it became 300 tip + 200 for massage, and as much of a scam this all was the extra money just wasn't worth arguing and getting past a lobby of women, especially when short on time. Worst 500 ever spent, massage places are everywhere but explore at your own peril if no one's ever given it a thumbs-up. Also explains why I think I've only ever seen one person leaving this particular shop, though I pass by all the time.

Gudao Health Spa on Changning, first purely HE place I ever went to, went again while in the area. Actually got a decent massage for once and ridiculously hot catbath from a fairly common-type 7, close to 30 but affectionate and willing to communicate despite broken language. Voluntarily took top off to give a tit massage and later panties as well to get fingered, kinda rare to find in my experience, especially without asking. So much effort was put into the first part that she couldn't get me to finish in the last 15 minutes, and she said her arm was too tired to continue. How about switching to a different girl for another hour? Was feeling pretty high after the first hour and decided to just go with it, and wasn't disappointed. The replacement was a fairly skinny girl almost 1. 7m / 5'7ish tall, probably easy to find again even without knowing a number given that height. Was really quiet and seemingly the shy type, unsure if that was natural or because of language barrier, but it wasn't in a bad way. Since the normal massage part was already done, this was straight HJ bliss for an hour. Normally wouldn't notice much from any HJ (they're all basically serviceable) but she used both hands the entire time, frequently varying her technique, and non-mechanical. There's just something to be said about getting someone's undivided attention, no stopping or needing to rest, particularly when when being kept on edge the whole hour from how good it all is, that you can't get any other way. Only thing to complain about was her trying to get yet another person involved near the end, which just seemed excessive; going 2 hours straight is one thing, but who can reasonably expect to last for 3 on one pop? Got the happiest ending, the kind like "dayum, where'd that come from?" and took a long shower in the aftermath. Place with nice facilities, even better than home. 496 for the twofer and would come back for either, especially the second one to see if she might warm up a bit next time. On the more expensive side, but just lying back to enjoy for two hours well worth it.[/QUOTE]

NotAClue
11-02-13, 14:12
NAC. Can you go back to the Guodao Spa and get the worker numbet for the gal that you fingered. I dpend too much time trying to track down a location and find s particular provider with inadequate information. There is Changning street and an area called Changning. Get a card from the place and ask for her "gong ren hao ma.

BJ.Finding the place should be a snap, Google map it and you should get the exact location, it's listed on happy massage as well and I specifically wrote "on Changning" rather than in. On the other hand, I'm not around the area all too often so it might take a while; also unsure what the odds are of running into the same person, one time the break room door was open and I caught a glimpse of maybe half a dozen girls sleeping in there. If I do happen to get a number I'd post it, but only once have I ever sent anyone back (for lack of a better way to describe it) and been pretty good with the rest. They do talk to each other after all, even if I'm not regular or anything I think they recognize the semi-foreigner. Matter of fact, that might be one way to find her, some of the others are more hesitant when unable to communicate much and might voluntarily sub out.

Fritobugger
11-04-13, 03:00
Sped by there on the bike over the weekend and was amazed at the number of girls and there general quality. No idea why this area doesn't get more ISG love.


Went back to Yinghua and Dujuan to do the deed, Friday night around 2130. I am Western so there is no faking it. The ladies on Dujuan were much more enthusiastic trying to wave me in than on Yinghua, maybe because there was much more foot traffic on Yinghua. Anyway I liked how the shops on Dujuan were all together and did not think there was a difference in quality. Saw a tiny little spinner and went in, but was approached by another. She started with 400, I said 200 she said no, so I said 300 and no again. I turned around to leave and she said yes. I then pointed to the little one I had my eye on and was waved off. Took the negotiator who was also tiny but with huge tits. Just as Skepti10 reported, even though the sign says "massage" there is no pretending. Straight to business. Once in the back she said BBBJ was 100 more, declined. Again, I heeded Skepti10's advice and stuck with standing mish. The lady was nice looking and in good shape, but both she and the room are used in quick succession. As I was leaving the next guy was coming in! All said, it was a nice quick hit for 300. I think I will try one of the other shops that were more enthusiastic about waving a foreigner in, stick with them, and try to get the price down.

JohnDoe2121
11-05-13, 06:43
Same place as last, Yuyuan on Shaanxi and Changping. Have other places to write about but I managed to answer one of my questions and things could be described as. Interesting, maybe. Decide for yourself.

Managed to get the same room at the back as twice before. Don't they believe in rotation? The do-not-disturb sign is all of a shirt on a hanger hung over the window, and this was the first time I noticed that there actually was a functional lock at the bottom of the door even if the handle keyhole is out. Got the youngest-looking (sub-30) girl thus far, also in a bit better shape and leans towards cute look more than hot. Need to revise impression of previous visits, what I would labeled as 6-7 before would have to get pegged to probably just straight 6, as she was definitely a notch above. Trying to put on the blue shorts, I was stopped, sniffed down there, and sent back to the shower. She decided she needed to wash things herself with enough soap as you might use for an entire shower. Not off to a good start...This post was 100% spot on. I went in to this MP and asked for number 18 and got the same exact service. Except after I showered there was no re wash LOL. She walked in very chatty and friendly. I have only been taking lessons for 6 months now but got the jist of most of what she said. She asked if a friend of mine had recommended her.

The massage was good and I thought she was going to eat shit when she was walking on the back of my legs. When she got to my ass she did exactly stated above and the tongue thing was also barely noticeable and yes her tits you felt more than the tongue. On the flip asked as well which I wanted and She also didn't have a condom either. Good BBBJ with cim. She did the same half way threw taking the bottoms off and 69. Sorry guys it just ain't my thing. Afterwards she washed me head to toe in shower and dried me off. I Pulled SamCan's original trick and gave her 100 and told her I would pay the laoban 200. She agreed and smiled. When we got to the front desk I asked how much and the dude asked and she said 200. Sweet. All in all it was good service and nice happy personality.

NotAClue
11-05-13, 17:05
Wanted to go somewhere different. Saw a recent review for somewhere translated as Regent club at 2988 Hongmei, which gave some sense of direction; walked around the street before and there's such a high density of sketchy storefronts that I breezed straight through without stopping at any. By the by, noticed a review that was a cutup of a post I put up for Yuyuan massage. Creepy, especially given that it was cut / pasted in such a manner that it was garbled to the point it looked like a translated foreign language. AND used 'twiceaweek' for a name. Only wish I could find a place where that'd actually be true. (50% to that point, will need to write that some other time).

So Hongmei road, and this is.exactly- one of those sketchy storefronts I avoided the first time. To boot, this is a really busy street, even with a bus stop across the road and next to a park with a lot of people walking through. Actually saw someone leaving the place, and when I walked past he had a total deer-in-headlights guilty look knowing everyone knew his business. That part's totally irrelevant, as for the place itself, its inside is about as tiny as it looks outside, all of maybe 4 fairly cramped rooms. Lady comes in, a kinda thick maybe 6 in upper-20s / low-30s asks is if 260 is okay, and I have zero clue what to expect. Definitely the most different routine I've ever seen. Just 10 minutes of backrub before removing her top and massaging with just boobs, followed by an indescribably weird catbath that no one would care to know about anyway. About 20 minutes in, haven't done anything with shorts until flipping over, and she sets up for a titfuck. Well, that's new, especially when this goes on for 10-15 minutes. I'm guessing this was actually her specialty, only that she wasn't quite big enough / I wasn't quite small enough for this to really get a sustaining attempt. Should make the point that she was quite natural, with the caveat that her biggish see's weren't disproportionate to the rest of her body. Still, I can't imagine this to be all that common, how many women can even attempt to pull it off?

Switched to HJ when it was obvious that slipping out of her cleavage every 15 seconds wasn't going to work. Got another offer for FS (what happened to girls unwilling to on first times?) that I declined, though there was no mention of it costing any more. Wasn't the greatest HJ ever, but the entire time she basically insisted that I had to play with her boobs using both hands, guiding me back to them if I stopped or backed off. Also spent way too much time on my nips, started off sucking but felt more like chewing after a while. Quite the nipple kink I would guess for someone into that kind of thing. Not really my thing so I didn't ask for a number, though with a shop this small I'm guessing she would be easy to find; I'd probably give it another shot to see if I get someone else that doesn't quite do this specialty service.

PersonPaul
11-06-13, 10:05
It seems that many guys like her, but she is asking a lot of money, I think.

In Paris (France) , I find many independent cute and GFE girls asking about the same amount of money.

And if you really want a Chinese woman, you would only pay 100€ (say 1200 RMB) for one hour, negociable.

It seems that Shanghai is becoming really expensive for FS, and that only legit massages are worth the trip (in Paris, good massages are almost as expensive as FS).What an interesting note. Paris to me has always been the worst place ever for girls. Or maybe I'm not looking in the right places. I'm here in Shanghai, keen for action, and in Paris next week. Would you mind sharing a link or two?

Cheers

Love Tactics
11-06-13, 20:15
Hi forum,

I am a longtime member from UAE visiting Shanghai for the first time. I did RTFM, however, couldn't find any info on massage parlors where they provide prostate massage. Is that truly not available in Shanghai?

The company put me in the Xuhui International Suites on Dong An Road. Seems quite upscale? Is it possible to obtain "room service"? If not, what would be a good place nearby?

Apologies for these "newbie" questions, would appreciate any help. Thanks.

Levitian
11-06-13, 23:55
What an interesting note. Paris to me has always been the worst place ever for girls. Or maybe I'm not looking in the right places. I'm here in Shanghai, keen for action, and in Paris next week. Would you mind sharing a link or two?

CheersCheck out the 'Paris' threat of this forum, I could find some valuable information there.

Lev

TomSf
11-07-13, 00:01
3 years ago I went to SH. I loved Shanghai. Such hot woman. My mistake was I did not research where to go before I went. I just assumed I would find what I need by walking around. I had to depend on taxis. First off just assume noone can speak english there. I asked 4 different taxi driver for boom boom and gave and hand signal. They all understood but 3 asked like there is no boom boom places in Shanghai. The forth one decided to take me. He took me to a road that had I guess you call it BBS. It is a place that has girls in the windows. None of the girls wanted to even look at me because I was a foreigner. The taxi guy had to come in to tell them I was ok. Got a 23 year old very cute chick. Amazing body. She held my hands down and BBBJ. Put on cover for quick boom boom. It was awesome 400 RMB total. If the taxi driver would have not waited outside and he left I would have been fucked. I did not know where the fuck I was and the area did not look the best. The girls all seemed paraniod the cops would come in at any minute.

Me and taxi guy left and as he was driving me back to hotel I saw another line window shops in a better area. Had him drop me off. Went in to one place with this chick with and amazing C cup. She would only do HJ. 300 total.

Can't wait to go back but next time I will be prepared.

Midwestern
11-08-13, 09:47
Hmmm, are you referring to the street that is close to Longxi Lu subway stop on line 10? That's an expat area and not creepy at all. There seems to be many nice MPs there with obvious opp for extras, given the way the girls are dressed. If that's the place you're talking about, have you found anything else near there? Such as the Gubei area?


Wanted to go somewhere different. Saw a recent review for somewhere translated as Regent club at 2988 Hongmei, which gave some sense of direction; walked around the street before and there's such a high density of sketchy storefronts that I breezed straight through without stopping at any. By the by, noticed a review that was a cutup of a post I put up for Yuyuan massage. Creepy, especially given that it was cut / pasted in such a manner that it was garbled to the point it looked like a translated foreign language. AND used 'twiceaweek' for a name. Only wish I could find a place where that'd actually be true. (50% to that point, will need to write that some other time).

So Hongmei road, and this is. Exactly- one of those sketchy storefronts I avoided the first time. To boot, this is a really busy street, even with a bus stop across the road and next to a park with a lot of people walking through. Actually saw someone leaving the place, and when I walked past he had a total deer-in-headlights guilty look knowing everyone knew his business. That part's totally irrelevant, as for the place itself, its inside is about as tiny as it looks outside, all of maybe 4 fairly cramped rooms. Lady comes in, a kinda thick maybe 6 in upper-20s / low-30s asks is if 260 is okay, and I have zero clue what to expect. Definitely the most different routine I've ever seen. Just 10 minutes of backrub before removing her top and massaging with just boobs, followed by an indescribably weird catbath that no one would care to know about anyway. About 20 minutes in, haven't done anything with shorts until flipping over, and she sets up for a titfuck. Well, that's new, especially when this goes on for 10-15 minutes. I'm guessing this was actually her specialty, only that she wasn't quite big enough / I wasn't quite small enough for this to really get a sustaining attempt. Should make the point that she was quite natural, with the caveat that her biggish see's weren't disproportionate to the rest of her body. Still, I can't imagine this to be all that common, how many women can even attempt to pull it off?.

OldGonga
11-08-13, 10:00
Cathy is a nice little package who does just about anything to please. Photos are accurate and she is a real sweetie. My session last week was good and she does stuff with those toys I didn't think I would like but really enjoyed.

BBJ, Anal, GFE. 9/10.

Gonga.

Check it.

http://cathybeauty.wix.com/cathy

Midwestern
11-08-13, 13:36
This is where the better HE MPs are. Try 3200 and 3300 blocks on Hongmei Lu.


Wanted to go somewhere different. Saw a recent review for somewhere translated as Regent club at 2988 Hongmei, which gave some sense of direction; walked around the street before and there's such a high density of sketchy storefronts that I breezed straight through without stopping at any.

So Hongmei road, and this is. Exactly- one of those sketchy storefronts I avoided the first time.

NotAClue
11-08-13, 19:12
Hi forum,

I am a longtime member from UAE visiting Shanghai for the first time. I did RTFM, however, couldn't find any info on massage parlors where they provide prostate massage. Is that truly not available in Shanghai?

The company put me in the Xuhui International Suites on Dong An Road. Seems quite upscale? Is it possible to obtain "room service"? If not, what would be a good place nearby?

Apologies for these "newbie" questions, would appreciate any help. Thanks.At least for one with an English sign you can read. 1159 Shanxi North. Hai Shang Yuan. 5-10 min taxi or short subway + 20 min walk, roughly. Or you can always try a random place and see how far you go with hand motions. Do tell how that goes.

At Midwestern: where you describe is a good 15 min walk north, which is indeed slightly less sketchy. Fewer bbs, dark alleyways, and people in general, I think. Looks equally ludicrous neon at night though, which might be coloring my perception. Any specific place that you actually know about, or just a general observation that the area is relatively nicer?

Midwestern
11-09-13, 06:43
It's just a general observation. I'd love to try them, but I go to this area a lot (this is where Lao Wai Jie is located, which I like a lot better than Xintiandi) , so I don't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) where I drink, so to speak.

Love Tactics
11-09-13, 15:23
At least for one with an English sign you can read. 1159 Shanxi North. Hai Shang Yuan. 5-10 min taxi or short subway + 20 min walk, roughly. Or you can always try a random place and see how far you go with hand motions. Do tell how that goes.Will try this one, thanks. And yes, will get back to the forum with results.

Is there a place for some daytime pickup action? I understand that Malone opens only in evening. Is there another place to meet some of Shanghai finest?

NotAClue
11-10-13, 06:16
So I've never really asked any girl what number she was, or actually known how to, but if there ever was a time I wished I had, this was it. Would definitely want to get people's opinions though on whether I just have too distorted a view, before I blow far too much money and time trying to chase this down.

To start things off, this girl was the one and only time I've ever had the thought "uh oh" in a good way. A spinner would be one thing, but this was straight borderline jailbait. I wouldn't normally be much for the loli look, but she was in the 9-10 range and made it work. A girl on a 20-something's body, giving off the feeling like she was playing dress-up and I only hoped she was at least 19. She even started out chewing gum while giving by far the best massage I've ever gotten short of a veg version. Dayum, if things stopped there I'd already have been fine. No catbath (explained later) but instead did a whole back and below-shorts tease, using her nails to full effect."Total" is the word, no need for a lot of details. By the end, I almost didn't want to flip over because things would end all too quickly.

Left to get towels and came back, sans gum, to get serious. Now on my back, she lay beside with my arm sandwiched between her thighs. Well, couldn't really move much in that position, so she swung my arm around to access her crotch from behind. Definitely eager to thank her for everything so far, I had her writhing after a few minutes, which was all the more fun to watch from the mirror on the ceiling. Pretty sure this one wasn't fake, she stopped everything she was doing and just crouched on top of me to rest for a minute so I was just taking in the sight of her beautiful face. Even at a distance so close that makeup doesn't help, the worst you could give her would be an 8. 5; definite a plus in my book. Got back into original position, only this time she stuck my other hand into her shirt to feel her awesome Bs. Could also feel some wetness around her crotch even through panties and nylon bloomers, which only served as more motivation to get her off again. I kept going til both arms were tired, both she was spasming and it was all worth it. She climbed up and just stared at me for some time, at least in my imagination it was to remember my face from the multitude of others. Then, as a surprise, she started nuzzling against me with her nose and kissing softly. At this point her arm was probably as tired as mine was, and she tried the only English this entire time,"Sorry", because I still hadn't (or rather, refused to) finish. Suggested getting another girl, but there was no way another could be close to as good, so I just told her it was okay and headed to the shower. She helped me to change and was hugging, or more like clinging on, as I sat down getting dressed, altogether too cute. Glanced at the time and noticed it was. Way- over, but never was there an attempt to upsell, extend, hurry, or ask for any tip.

So what makes any of this special? Well, probably nothing at a proper sauna, but this was a 198 meridian massage at one of the branches of Spring, only 10 more than a regular oil massage, and as far as I can tell, it normally costs 100 more just to touch up top. And the place gets a lot of business. Saw an entire row of shoes there, plus the girls' heels outside almost every room. So you could never expect to get anything remotely close to GFE, especially for that money.


.so I don't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) where I drink, so to speak.I go there to get normal massage too, so now the receptionist now has to ask every time, slightly awkward. I noticed about a dozen numbers on the assignment board and I'm basically willing to get through every single one of them to find this girl again, probably should get a VIP card to facilitate that. Bear Grylls time!

Beijing4987
11-10-13, 17:40
Dude! This is not penthouse letters. Take a pen and paper, ask her " gei wo ni de gong ren hao ma" or point to your telephone. Learn some pinyin. Write down some random numbers. Be creative. Pm her phone number to me, well get het name. I've arranged meetings for friends and ISGers, post the address. The streets have pinyin signs.

BJ

So I've never really asked any girl what number she was, or actually known how to, but if there ever was a time I wished I had, this was it. Would definitely want to get people's opinions though on whether I just have too distorted a view, before I blow far too much money and time trying to chase this down.

To start things off, this girl was the one and only time I've ever had the thought "uh oh" in a good way. A spinner would be one thing, but this was straight borderline jailbait. I wouldn't normally be much for the loli look, but she was in the 9-10 range and made it work. A girl on a 20-something's body, giving off the feeling like she was playing dress-up and I only hoped she was at least 19. She even started out chewing gum while giving by far the best massage I've ever gotten short of a veg version. Dayum, if things stopped there I'd already have been fine. No catbath (explained later) but instead did a whole back and below-shorts tease, using her nails to full effect."Total" is the word, no need for a lot of details. By the end, I almost didn't want to flip over because things would end all too quickly.

Left to get towels and came back, sans gum, to get serious. Now on my back, she lay beside with my arm sandwiched between her thighs. Well, couldn't really move much in that position, so she swung my arm around to access her crotch from behind. Definitely eager to thank her for everything so far, I had her writhing after a few minutes, which was all the more fun to watch from the mirror on the ceiling. Pretty sure this one wasn't fake, she stopped everything she was doing and just crouched on top of me to rest for a minute so I was just taking in the sight of her beautiful face. Even at a distance so close that makeup doesn't help, the worst you could give her would be an 8. 5; definite a plus in my book. Got back into original position, only this time she stuck my other hand into her shirt to feel her awesome Bs. Could also feel some wetness around her crotch even through panties and nylon bloomers, which only served as more motivation to get her off again. I kept going til both arms were tired, both she was spasming and it was all worth it. She climbed up and just stared at me for some time, at least in my imagination it was to remember my face from the multitude of others. Then, as a surprise, she started nuzzling against me with her nose and kissing softly. At this point her arm was probably as tired as mine was, and she tried the only English this entire time,"Sorry", because I still hadn't (or rather, refused to) finish. Suggested getting another girl, but there was no way another could be close to as good, so I just told her it was okay and headed to the shower. She helped me to change and was hugging, or more like clinging on, as I sat down getting dressed, altogether too cute. Glanced at the time and noticed it was. Way- over, but never was there an attempt to upsell, extend, hurry, or ask for any tip.

So what makes any of this special? Well, probably nothing at a proper sauna, but this was a 198 meridian massage at one of the branches of Spring, only 10 more than a regular oil massage, and as far as I can tell, it normally costs 100 more just to touch up top. And the place gets a lot of business. Saw an entire row of shoes there, plus the girls' heels outside almost every room. So you could never expect to get anything remotely close to GFE, especially for that money.

I go there to get normal massage too, so now the receptionist now has to ask every time, slightly awkward. I noticed about a dozen numbers on the assignment board and I'm basically willing to get through every single one of them to find this girl again, probably should get a VIP card to facilitate that. Bear Grylls time![/QUOTE]

PlaceKicker
11-11-13, 00:43
I tried Spring massage before looked up on Shanhgai nightlife. Seen a few around the city so at least it has a name. The one I went to said vanke square on the business card, soon as I get in they already assume I'm not there for a regular massage and direct me to a completely different counter behind a curtain. Told me beautiful girl massage and said 400 was best, but the english on the price list doesn't help so I go for a 200 to start.

Not much to say except that there wasnt much of a massage, girl was trying hard to get me to pay 100 extra so I can massage her tits. Even stopped to get her phone to translate which took some 5 minutes, but couldn't get that there wasnt all that much to massage, if ya get my drift. Didn't go with it and she was bummed, turned into bored-gf-experience lolz. Too real for me, couldn't even stay hard thru it and she just look at the clock and kick me out without any happy ending. The difference 100 makes. Didn't even think of asking for her number but saw that she was #69 when they check her out at counter. There's my 2 cents, not trying her agin.

Fuzimiao
11-11-13, 02:06
I was who recommended the #8 with the impressive tits. She left around 1-2 months ago, probably at the same time the place changed their massage offer. Before they had several options being the most popular the CBJ with obviously cover CIM. I guess my little friend (19yo) did not want to provide the such service by default (don't blame her at all). She is now in a massage place in Pudong where they charge 380rmb for a fantastic back massage according to her (I am not crossing half town for a back massage at that rate, even for those massive tits).

I've been once after they changed the menu and paid 346 with the VIP card, which I cut and disposed after getting out of the place. Almost all the nice girls working there left.

Close to that massage place there is another one: in the same cross, in the south west of shaanxi. Looks like they also made an upgrade and now they offer some BBBJ without CIM. I paid 200 but maybe it was kind of a promo. Facilities are not as good as in the other place but acceptable. Girls slightly over the average.

On Changping Lu, on north-western side of the crossing, there is a place which looks like a high end massage joint. Entry has Buddha face / walk up some stairs, buddha figures and Thai inspired decorations, piped smooth new age music and nicely decorated rooms with showers. They had a menu but informed me that now only the most pricy / comprehensive option (think it was 368) was available. Did this 4 times over a couple of weeks, same drill. She prepare room, shower alone, onto table, decent but short massage (a little different from each girl) , then over, off with the top, and a nice BBJ to completion including various degrees of CIM. Then another shower. No tip, pay at the desk, membership card offered, I don't want to walk around with any cards so I paid each time the approx 368 think it is 328 with card. Good service, reasonably attractive girls. Wonder about their health over time but alas too great of a place to really worry to much about it. Recommended.At a loose end last night, so tried the massage joint with the Buddha face in the window. Exactly as described, but perhaps my choice of a SYT called Xiao Yue was ill considered, should have taken one of the older more experienced ladies. Was offered a menu with two items, the receptionist translated it quite clearly, number 1, with hand job 228rmb, number 2, with blow job 328! No tips. Further, exactly as described. No VIP card mentioned.

FZ

Masslin
11-11-13, 08:31
It's just a general observation. I'd love to try them, but I go to this area a lot (this is where Lao Wai Jie is located, which I like a lot better than Xintiandi) , so I don't want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) where I drink, so to speak.If you don't want to try massage parlors on Hongmei Road, you can try Hai Zhi Xuan on Caobao Road (near Hongmei Road). Address: No. 1042, Caobao Road, Minhang District. I'd like to recommend technician #33 to you. Full service package only costs 288rmb. However, the disadvantage is that technicians there are a little bit old (boobs are great).

PlaceKicker
11-11-13, 11:59
Dude! This is not penthouse letters. Take a pen and paper, ask her " gei wo ni de gong ren hao ma" or point to your telephone. Learn some pinyin. Write down some random numbers. Be creative. Pm her phone number to me, well get het name. I've arranged meetings for friends and ISGers, post the address. The streets have pinyin signs.What it looks like is: one poster does a mostly tl; dr review of a place. Sum up in, found a girl at a MP and in progress trying to find again. Another poster just complains about no number. If you say your helping, put down some info rather than ranting or at least chill out. I try looking up your post to find stuff, and all you got nothing lately except questions for others to answer.

On a happier note, I been around the Buddha area too but tried the other place across the street. Kinda jumbled up numbers here, I think there are at least 3-4 ladies working at any time. At least noticed 2 closed doors when I went once on a weekday night and there are more empty rooms. Starts at 200, but for FS from different ladies I got numbers from 380-500. No idea if theres a standard, and carrying only 300 wasn't the way to go. Maybe not everyone does it either. Want to see whats up with that tatted chick, maybe a waste of money tho.

Mgp23
11-11-13, 14:30
So what makes any of this special? Well, probably nothing at a proper sauna, but this was a 198 meridian massage at one of the branches of Spring, only 10 more than a regular oil massage, and as far as I can tell, it normally costs 100 more just to touch up top. And the place gets a lot of business. Saw an entire row of shoes there, plus the girls' heels outside almost every room. So you could never expect to get anything remotely close to GFE, especially for that money.

I go there to get normal massage too, so now the receptionist now has to ask every time, slightly awkward. I noticed about a dozen numbers on the assignment board and I'm basically willing to get through every single one of them to find this girl again, probably should get a VIP card to facilitate that. Bear Grylls time!How does this Spring massage works? It's a veggie place where girls can do extra after tipping or it's a place that offers 2 different services? Please tell us which shop it is I want to try my luck.

Mgp23
11-11-13, 14:38
I needed to write about this massage place, the service there is by far the best. I needed to go 3 time to be sure, but every time I'm satisfied. The girls aren't the best, average 7, but they are really nice and caring. Best HE, no rush at all and usually 100 kuai for tits access (base price is less than 200).

It's on Shaanxi Lu, between Anyuan and Xinhui. Going north it's the second place on the left (you probably won't notice the first one, and by the way it looks I woudn't try).

Beijing4987
11-12-13, 04:43
There should be a nunber on the store front. Get a piece of paper. Get the girl to write her worket number. Then you can tell us your favorites unless you want to keep it to yourself. The next time you go show the number at the desk.

I needed to write about this massage place, the service there is by far the best. I needed to go 3 time to be sure, but every time I'm satisfied. The girls aren't the best, average 7, but they are really nice and caring. Best HE, no rush at all and usually 100 kuai for tits access (base price is less than 200).

It's on Shaanxi Lu, between Anyuan and Xinhui. Going north it's the second place on the left (you probably won't notice the first one, and by the way it looks I woudn't try).[/QUOTE]

Beijing4987
11-12-13, 04:47
The most helpful info for the rest of us is street address, house price, girl number, service rendered, (roaming allowed? And tip requested for said roaming and extras).

How does this Spring massage works? It's a veggie place where girls can do extra after tipping or it's a place that offers 2 different services? Please tell us which shop it is I want to try my luck.[/QUOTE]

Beijing4987
11-12-13, 05:02
Dude.

I'm not ranting. We are only looking for useful information. I have enough posts to be a senior member. I may not have posted recently because Sam Can visited sites and particular providers I suggested to him. I prefer to PM as some of the providers may not want that much publicity. I have about four in Jingan and one in Gubei that I frequent. # 18 at 851 Shaanxi lu is consistent and awesome. #8 and #10 at 1808 Beijing Lu near the corner of Wanhangdu lu are also very motivated providers. # 10's sister, the former #18 is gone after 6 years. If you want a cheaper place I will get the address of s joint on Wulumuli lu near Yuyuan lu. The mama even did me there, so very little roaming.

BJ of Jiangsu.

What it looks like is: one poster does a mostly tl; dr review of a place. Sum up in, found a girl at a MP and in progress trying to find again. Another poster just complains about no number. If you say your helping, put down some info rather than ranting or at least chill out. I try looking up your post to find stuff, and all you got nothing lately except questions for others to answer.

On a happier note, I been around the Buddha area too but tried the other place across the street. Kinda jumbled up numbers here, I think there are at least 3-4 ladies working at any time. At least noticed 2 closed doors when I went once on a weekday night and there are more empty rooms. Starts at 200, but for FS from different ladies I got numbers from 380-500. No idea if theres a standard, and carrying only 300 wasn't the way to go. Maybe not everyone does it either. Want to see whats up with that tatted chick, maybe a waste of money tho.[/QUOTE]

LukeSkywalker
11-12-13, 06:26
These bars' Filipinas are God-awfully old and butt ugly.

Guys in Shanghai must be very desperate to spend money on them!

Jackie6543
11-12-13, 14:28
Guys I will be visiting Shanghai from 19th to 23rd of Nov`2013. I am staying in Grand Mercure Baolong 180 Yixian Road Shanghai. Can you direct me to a reasonably priced sauna with good girls FS near my hotel.

Carage
11-12-13, 17:42
Guys I will be visiting Shanghai from 19th to 23rd of Nov`2013. I am staying in Grand Mercure Baolong 180 Yixian Road Shanghai. Can you direct me to a reasonably priced sauna with good girls FS near my hotel.There is a huge sauna on Yixian Road that I've only been there once because I thought it was too expensive to justify the value.

I probably spent close to 2000 RMB.

It has great amenities, but I probably wasn't too impressed with the lineup.

Century Sauna (Shiji SangNa HuiSuo)

519 Yixian Riad

Jackie6543
11-13-13, 09:06
Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.


There is a huge sauna on Yixian Road that I've only been there once because I thought it was too expensive to justify the value.

I probably spent close to 2000 RMB.

It has great amenities, but I probably wasn't too impressed with the lineup.

Century Sauna (Shiji SangNa HuiSuo)

519 Yixian Riad

Stegram
11-13-13, 19:09
Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.Hop in a cab for cheap and go to Bodi, Heting, Merrilyn or any of the other saunas that have been written about on this forum 100 times.

Carage
11-13-13, 19:33
Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.I don't know any place else in that area.

Masslin
11-14-13, 06:52
Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.Hawaii Sauna is cheaper, it's located on the 721 Quyang Road close to Zhongshan Road and only about 1. 4 km away from where you are staying.

OldAsiaHand
11-16-13, 05:02
I have been to SH a couple of time in the past couple of months and was pleased to still find a thriving BBS scene compared with Guangdong where there are very few BBS areas left. This week an old friend and former esteemed member of this forum took me on a tour of one area. Although not in full swing (maybe a recent crackdown) , there were still 10-15 shops open with 3-5 girls in each. I would say that the overall quality was mediocre at best but it was a thrill for me to be able to prance through the area, stick my head in the doors, walk in and joke with the girls and make my selection just like the old days. I ended up with a Dongbei girl that I took back to my hotel for 300RMB ST; onsite was quoted at 200 RMB, but I reckon 150RMB for locals and mongering veterans. The service was standard for a BBS girl, but the BBBJ was longer than expected and she did not complain when I asked for more. The only downside was a probable yeast infection or lack of hygiene which led to a slightly stinky snatch. DATY was out of the question.

You guys are lucky in SH to have these BBS options. They brought back fond memories of days gone by where I reside.

Just my POV.

OAH

Supmam
11-17-13, 10:09
I'm coming into Shanghai in a weeks time and have a few good days to myself.

I've got my sights on a Sauna like Pattaya and Sacrosanct but had a couple of concerns. Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian). Secondly, having a physical impairment (does not affect walking, talking, mind, dick) going to cause problems either? My most recent experiences in walk-in places in BKK are all positive and walk-in places in Malaysia as well. But I'm guessing China's a bit different? Or is it all in my mind?

I also thought I'd like to try my luck at Malones where I heard older filipinas hang out. But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me. So any thoughts on Malones? I'd like to give it a go and happy for it to be unsuccesful just for the experience. Another one of those unknown unknowns to quote the great Donald Rumsfeld. LOL.

I see that a lot of the private / high-end WL's are usually after white guys with money so I'm happy to avoid them but don't want to waste my time. Of course a report at the end of the trip will be forthcoming.

SamCan
11-17-13, 12:46
I'm coming into Shanghai in a weeks time and have a few good days to myself.

I've got my sights on a Sauna like Pattaya and Sacrosanct but had a couple of concerns. Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian). Secondly, having a physical impairment (does not affect walking, talking, mind, dick) going to cause problems either? My most recent experiences in walk-in places in BKK are all positive and walk-in places in Malaysia as well. But I'm guessing China's a bit different? Or is it all in my mind?

I also thought I'd like to try my luck at Malones where I heard older filipinas hang out. But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me. So any thoughts on Malones? I'd like to give it a go and happy for it to be unsuccesful just for the experience. Another one of those unknown unknowns to quote the great Donald Rumsfeld. LOL.

I see that a lot of the private / high-end WL's are usually after white guys with money so I'm happy to avoid them but don't want to waste my time. Of course a report at the end of the trip will be forthcoming.I have seen a lot of ads for girls that say they don't accept Black men. I have not seen anything else that would make me think Turk / italians would have a problem. I don't know the type of impairment but I am sure you can try the saunas. If they don't work out for you go to Manhattans or Judy's. They are both 2-3 blocks from Malones. Others have had luck at Malones, but from what I have seen there are 10X more girls at manhattans and 3-5 times more (than Malones) at Judy's. Just look out for the ladyboys at judys. They are pretty obvious however.

I have seen some small filipas walk out of Manhattan's with some guys of all shapes, sizes and ages............. I am sure you will be fine.

Midwestern
11-17-13, 14:02
But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me.That's weird. I've seen all kinds of foreigners walk out of OT in Singapore with a WG. Did you try Ipanema?

Skepti10
11-17-13, 14:03
I have been to SH a couple of time in the past couple of months and was pleased to still find a thriving BBS scene compared with Guangdong where there are very few BBS areas left. This week an old friend and former esteemed member of this forum took me on a tour of one area. Although not in full swing (maybe a recent crackdown) , there were still 10-15 shops open with 3-5 girls in each. I would say that the overall quality was mediocre at best but it was a thrill for me to be able to prance through the area, stick my head in the doors, walk in and joke with the girls and make my selection just like the old days. I ended up with a Dongbei girl that I took back to my hotel for 300RMB ST; onsite was quoted at 200 RMB, but I reckon 150RMB for locals and mongering veterans. The service was standard for a BBS girl, but the BBBJ was longer than expected and she did not complain when I asked for more. The only downside was a probable yeast infection or lack of hygiene which led to a slightly stinky snatch. DATY was out of the question.

You guys are lucky in SH to have these BBS options. They brought back fond memories of days gone by where I reside.

Just my POV.

OAHAh finally someone talking about taking these bbs girls for takeaway! Some questions:

Do all the girls do takeaway?

Is 100rmb extra pretty standard for takeaway?

Did your girl get changed when you took her out? I think walking in with the girls in cocktail dresses would raise some questions haha!

Are you east Asian? Speak fluent Mandarin? I know from experience that can affect price.

Skepti10
11-17-13, 20:41
Ah finally someone talking about taking these bbs girls for takeaway! Some questions:

Do all the girls do takeaway?

Is 100rmb extra pretty standard for takeaway?

Did your girl get changed when you took her out? I think walking in with the girls in cocktail dresses would raise some questions haha!

Are you east Asian? Speak fluent Mandarin? I know from experience that can affect price.Also was she willing to shower before hand?

Shanghai Guide
11-17-13, 21:34
Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian).It is definitly true, that a lot of girls in China have problems with black guys. First there is a rumor that black guys have very big dick, and you can imagine, if some girls refused sex with foreigners because of the "big-dick-syndrom", how afraid they must be because of the bigger black ones? Second Chinese people think white skin is most beautiful, so for them black one is opposite from beautiful. But I also know some Chinese girls have black boyfriends, so over all it is a hit and miss. I can tell you, in Manhattan and Judy`s you will not get any problems (because the viet girls there don`t have that problem) , and also in the Sauna clubs they definitly will not refuse you on the door or anywhere else. You can not be sure, if the girl is happy, when you choose her, but I am sure you will not be refused, and if you are nice and gentle to her, you will not get a problem with the girl, I guess. So try out this bars or some sauna places, than you will definitly enjoy!

Good luck and have fun in Shanghai,

Steven

Fritobugger
11-18-13, 02:42
If you are mistaken for Arab or Turk then it should not be an issue but I have seen a very black American guy refused service at one of the upscale places. The Filipinas at Manhattan and Judy's won't care.


It is definitly true, that a lot of girls in China have problems with black guys. First there is a rumor that black guys have very big dick, and you can imagine, if some girls refused sex with foreigners because of the "big-dick-syndrom", how afraid they must be because of the bigger black ones? Second Chinese people think white skin is most beautiful, so for them black one is opposite from beautiful. But I also know some Chinese girls have black boyfriends, so over all it is a hit and miss. I can tell you, in Manhattan and Judy`s you will not get any problems (because the viet girls there don`t have that problem) , and also in the Sauna clubs they definitly will not refuse you on the door or anywhere else. You can not be sure, if the girl is happy, when you choose her, but I am sure you will not be refused, and if you are nice and gentle to her, you will not get a problem with the girl, I guess. So try out this bars or some sauna places, than you will definitly enjoy!

Good luck and have fun in Shanghai,

Steven

OldAsiaHand
11-18-13, 14:09
Ah finally someone talking about taking these bbs girls for takeaway! Some questions:

Do all the girls do takeaway?

Is 100rmb extra pretty standard for takeaway?

Did your girl get changed when you took her out? I think walking in with the girls in cocktail dresses would raise some questions haha!

Are you east Asian? Speak fluent Mandarin? I know from experience that can affect price.Skepti10,

1) No, not all girls do takeaway. It seemed to be a shop by shop policy.

2) It has been my experience that 100RMB is the standard extra but sometimes I have been quoted 400RMB. I paid her 30 RMB return taxi fare.

3) In this case, she was not wearing a cocktail dress so change was not needed. In the past, I noticed they did change.

4) I am a laowai living in China a long time. My Mandarin is OK, especially in a mongering context.

5) She took a "quick" shower before and after (this is not always my experience) but it did not seem to make a big difference with the stinky snatch.

Pricing: I have to admit that I have not been able to get the local pricing in Shanghai BBS for ages. Most local pricing I believe is 150 RMB in-house, probably 200 RMB takeaway. Some proprietors quote close to this pricing for me and those seem to be the ones I patronize. I do not like paying the laowai surcharge but there is not much I can do about it these days.

Just my POV.

OAH

PlaceKicker
11-18-13, 14:36
How does this Spring massage works? It's a veggie place where girls can do extra after tipping or it's a place that offers 2 different services? Please tell us which shop it is I want to try my luck.Can only talk about the spring massage I went into, Vanke sq in gubei area. Veg massage is at entrance, but asking for oil massage leads to a kinda diff area branching off from the hallway separated by a curtain. I remember 3 price on the sign going 198/298/398 and hard to tell what each means from the English. I went with base and girl tried really hard to sell 100 more for touching, so you can maybe assume something from that. Am curious what the 398 is, but would have to be a diff chick than who I got. Will say a plus is nice shower + room setup for having veg gig also there, and from noticing 3 girls walking the halls they seem close to low 20s. Did see a fine one but they don't wear tags I think, diff from the veg side with the older ladies and their uniforms.

PlaceKicker
11-18-13, 14:48
Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.

SebastianSH
11-18-13, 15:04
If you are mistaken for Arab or Turk then it should not be an issue but I have seen a very black American guy refused service at one of the upscale places. The Filipinas at Manhattan and Judy's won't care.Actually, if you are black or darker than average, you may get turned away at Manhattan completely. I have seen the boss lady at Manhattan kick out black patron before. However, if it seems like if a black patron is with a group of Asian / white patrons, then no issue at all.

Beijing4987
11-18-13, 23:27
#98 Rong Hua road. I was offered BJ there last year. Some big busted gals there. MaMa get the 165 door fee. Girls demand 200 tip. BJ was offered at maybe 250-350. #9 gives a great massage and ball scratching before flip. No roaming with #9, though. PM me with your results please. There is a big MP with "Rouge" in the name on same street. 200 is the entry fee. Lots of girls in lobby, so you probably can choose. Have nit tried that place yet. PM me with results there too, please.

BJ.

Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.[/QUOTE]

Beijing4987
11-19-13, 00:19
I posted and address and a specific providers worker number that I know well. You went to the "Buddah area" Got some numbes for FS but maybe you did not get FS or happy ending. This is exactly what I am talking about. I want info on a specific location, easy to find. General info about the action is ok. Most providers ask me not to speak anout DATY or BJ. I get both in Jingan. DATY on the first visit sometimes. One offered to come to my hotel after quitting time. Now FS becomes a possibility with her. All these places and providers have been outed in previous posts. Recent accurate info is what we need.

BJ.

What it looks like is: one poster does a mostly tl; dr review of a place. Sum up in, found a girl at a MP and in progress trying to find again. Another poster just complains about no number. If you say your helping, put down some info rather than ranting or at least chill out. I try looking up your post to find stuff, and all you got nothing lately except questions for others to answer.

On a happier note, I been around the Buddha area too but tried the other place across the street. Kinda jumbled up numbers here, I think there are at least 3-4 ladies working at any time. At least noticed 2 closed doors when I went once on a weekday night and there are more empty rooms. Starts at 200, but for FS from different ladies I got numbers from 380-500. No idea if theres a standard, and carrying only 300 wasn't the way to go. Maybe not everyone does it either. Want to see whats up with that tatted chick, maybe a waste of money tho.[/QUOTE]

Waldeck2
11-19-13, 04:01
I've been fucking a girl in one of the 'fuck me' shops close to where I live for over six months. I have no Chinese and she has no English. So yesterday I sent her a message as to my time of arrival and she responded. Got to the shop and she wasn't there. Damn. Most of the girls recognise me. I pick one. She refuses. What in hell is going on. She points to another girl, I hesitate. She points again and the girl smiles. They all smile. What the hell, I'm horny and need some of that pussy. I nod OK. We go to the room and the new girl gets out her phone and translates. She and the girl I had been fucking have talked. OK. We start and this girl is as good as the other. And she knows my moves and fucks me right royally. Same cost. As good a fuck as before.

There are about a dozen of what I call fuck me shops within 15 minute walk of where I live. The shop I go to at present cost me 400 rmb. The cheapest I've run across is 388 and it goes up to 488. 438 to 458 will get the job done. Shops have 3 to 6 girls depending on time of day and which day of the week. If you have some posts send me a pm.

Shanghai Guide
11-19-13, 07:25
Actually, if you are black or darker than average, you may get turned away at Manhattan completely. I have seen the boss lady at Manhattan kick out black patron before. However, if it seems like if a black patron is with a group of Asian / white patrons, then no issue at all.Could be it is because they are afraid about "drug dealing". A boss of a bar told me when ever he had trouble because of dealers in his pub, black guys where involved. Seems from Chinese view this business is occupied by black people. I don`t know if it is true or not, but at least Chinese think like that. All clubs here prefer to keep out drugs. Especially if they support prostitution in a way like Manhattan is doing. It should be very dangerous for them to get additional involved in drug dealing. So could be that is the reason why a group of black people scared the boss of Manhattan?

FreebieFan
11-19-13, 09:37
Could be it is because they are afraid about "drug dealing". A boss of a bar told me when ever he had trouble because of dealers in his pub, black guys where involved. Seems from Chinese view this business is occupied by black people. I don`t know if it is true or not, but at least Chinese think like that. in drug dealing. ?Whilst I'm not in Shanghai, I am in another big city to the north that has many many black fellas in it.

And every night, when I'm walking home in my suit, looking like the respectable middle aged guy that I guess I am, I hear many

" Hey Papi, want something?" from every black guy I walk past.

Now I put earphones in, and when they say something to me I can happily ignore them.

How China tolerates this I'm not sure but I guess now that Africa is Chinas new BFF then anything goes.

Masslin
11-20-13, 06:59
Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.You can try Gudao Health Spa Club on the Changning Road. It has more than 4massage girls offering Body Lick (BL) , HJ and BJ etc. Address: No. 1788, Changning Road, Changning District t.

Fritobugger
11-20-13, 07:47
Based on a recommendation from a senior member, I gave Miss Cathy a shot. She arrived a little bit late but nothing too bad given Shanghai traffic at times. She came well dressed which is nice in a residential area. With the recent talk of why she does not show her face, I was very glad to see that she has a super cute face. Great smile. After some discussions and a beverage, she showed the toys she brought. A quick shower and off to have fun. I would like to add that the photos on her website do not do a good job of showing her body. Her body in person is much nice than what is shown in the photos. She has great round ass, which would later by loads of fun for anal entrance. While few Chinese girls allow anal, even fewer seem to enjoy it. It would appear that Cathy enjoys a nice butt stuffing. Big bonus points for that. Actually, her general enthusiasm and "sex is fun" attitude make the whole thing better for me. I love that she also shaves her beaver daily. Nice to not fight a jungle of fur. I am not into rimming but for those who are, she has one of the longest tongues I have seen for a Chinese girl. I would definitely repeat with her.

Hind31
11-20-13, 10:52
I would like to add that the photos on her website do not do a good job of showing her body. Her body in person is much nice than what is shown in the photos. She has great round ass, which would later by loads of fun for anal entrance. While few Chinese girls allow anal, even fewer seem to enjoy it. It would appear that Cathy enjoys a nice butt stuffing. Big bonus points for that.I had a good time with her too. She was really slow and knows what she does. I would have really loved a long flowing hair on her. But who am I to complain.

She was worth it.

Marty47
11-20-13, 15:18
Nice report-she will like it-yes she is great!


Based on a recommendation from a senior member, I gave Miss Cathy a shot. She arrived a little bit late but nothing too bad given Shanghai traffic at times. She came well dressed which is nice in a residential area. With the recent talk of why she does not show her face, I was very glad to see that she has a super cute face. Great smile. After some discussions and a beverage, she showed the toys she brought. A quick shower and off to have fun. I would like to add that the photos on her website do not do a good job of showing her body. Her body in person is much nice than what is shown in the photos. She has great round ass, which would later by loads of fun for anal entrance. While few Chinese girls allow anal, even fewer seem to enjoy it. It would appear that Cathy enjoys a nice butt stuffing. Big bonus points for that. Actually, her general enthusiasm and "sex is fun" attitude make the whole thing better for me. I love that she also shaves her beaver daily. Nice to not fight a jungle of fur. I am not into rimming but for those who are, she has one of the longest tongues I have seen for a Chinese girl. I would definitely repeat with her.

OldAsiaHand
11-21-13, 05:04
I've been fucking a girl in one of the 'fuck me' shops close to where I live for over six months. I have no Chinese and she has no English. So yesterday I sent her a message as to my time of arrival and she responded. Got to the shop and she wasn't there. Damn. Most of the girls recognise me. I pick one. She refuses. What in hell is going on. She points to another girl, I hesitate. She points again and the girl smiles. They all smile. What the hell, I'm horny and need some of that pussy. I nod OK. We go to the room and the new girl gets out her phone and translates. She and the girl I had been fucking have talked. OK. We start and this girl is as good as the other. And she knows my moves and fucks me right royally. Same cost. As good a fuck as before.

There are about a dozen of what I call fuck me shops within 15 minute walk of where I live. The shop I go to at present cost me 400 rmb. The cheapest I've run across is 388 and it goes up to 488. 438 to 458 will get the job done. Shops have 3 to 6 girls depending on time of day and which day of the week. If you have some posts send me a pm.Waldeck2,

What kind of "shops" are you talking about? Pricing seems high for BBS and low for sauna.

OAH

StinkyFeet
11-21-13, 05:17
Waldeck2,

What kind of "shops" are you talking about? Pricing seems high for BBS and low for sauna.

OAHDamn, I've never heard of BBS costing that high. I'm accustomed to 50. 150 rmb (10 to 30 minutes) from the BBS shops and the girls are young and not bad looking. Sometimes better looking than the sauna girls.

MrPatsFan
11-21-13, 10:05
My 1st trip to Shanghai in a while, was going to try the Yuquan Pattaya Business Chamber but saw the warning on a website that it was previously raided by LE so decided to avoid. Took a walk along Huaihai Zhong Lu in Xuhui district and found this new joint called Leisure Club 633, I think it was previously named 633 Sauna and has just re-opened after renovation. It's located on the 6th floor of a complex near the intersection of Huaihai Zhong Lu and Sinan Road. From the street you will see this huge sign in Chinese that says 633 Sauna, even if you can't read Chinese '633' will still be quite large and prominent. This complex includes clothing stores in the 1st floor as well as other small businesses. From Huaihai Zhong Lu if you walk into the clothing store's front entrance you will notice a set of elevator to the right, it will take you up to 6th floor.

The facility was recently renovated: nice showers, a huge luxurious communal hot tub. The private rooms where the fun occurs are separated into 2 halves. The wet room has showers + bed for water / nuru massage, on the other side of the glass petition the dry room has usual queen size bed, with large mirrors on the sides and on the ceiling (love this feature) , there's also a TV in the room.

My 1st visit was 2 weeks ago on Wed afternoon at 2pm (opens at 1 pm) , was welcomed into the locker room, undressed, put belongings in the locker, corresponding key tied to your hand. Showered, took a dip in the hot tub, turned down the 40 RMB back rub, and promptly asked to see the girls. This is where I think this place is unique, the girls and the "action rooms" are located on a different floor. The staff directed me to an elevator which took me down to probably the 4th or 5th floor. It is not the same elevator I accessed from the street, in fact it's probably only accessible from within this establishment. In essence providing privacy and probably added safety feature should LE shows up. Once inside my room, a middle age mamasan came and explained to me that it's only the 2nd day of their opening and so they have only 2 girls to choose from! No wonder I only saw 2 other customer. Apparently the owner of this place also operates other similar joints in the area and he / she has yet to re-arrange the line-ups to meet the demands of this new place. Since I was there I wanted to see the 2 girls anyway, they were probably 6 and 7 in my opinion, I took the shorter girl (prob mid 20's) with the nicer boobs and it was a great choice. I speak passable Mandarin so we were able to communicate effectively. After a quick shower together, she asked me which massage I wanted and I said "shoi moi" (nuru massage) , it was my 1st and it was very satisfying, lots of body to body rubbing. Will leave it to your imaginations. Then off we went to the bed for some caressing, touching, follow by a quick cat bath (warm water in her mouth) , some BBBJ and rimming. She then took out couple pieces of lingeries and asked me to pick one, hello! I picked the see-thru fish net outfit (one of my fantasies) , it was magnificent, her boobs and butts were just popping out of there, and her semi bushy kitty looked so inviting underneath. After some more mutual caressing and groping I finally couldn't wait any longer, my little bro was brewing with anticipation as I parted her lingerie in the bottom. We did the usual cowgirl, mission, doggy, side straddle (per her request) , then finally finished by more missionary with her legs over my shoulders. It was like in a dream seeing my hot rod sliding in and out of that partially lingerie covered kitty, I had to stop several times in the middle of the action to avoid premature firing. It took all I could to last 10 minutes, when I easily could have exploded after 30 thrusts. I avoided DFK or DATY as I am trying to playing it safe-are. All in all it was one of the best sex I have had. As for the girl her English name was Lina, from the province of Fujian, unfortunately I forgot her tag number. Her face was a 7, body 8, attitude initially was 7 but became 9 as time progressed. Afterwards I was led up stairs again to a private relaxation room where I was offered 1 complimentary beverage and 1 food item (2nd items costs 10 RMB or more) and watched TV for 30 minutes before checking out. I didn't see anyone coming around offering any services like feet / neck massages, perhaps this place is still new, but I was cool with it.

My 2nd visit was last Friday around 2 pm and the selection was better. I was told there were 8 girls on duty, but only 2 are available as the others are "occupied", so I told the manager I will take my time in the shower and the hot tub and wait for more girls to be available. I didn't have to wait long, about 20 minutes later the manager gave me the thumbs up and led me down stairs, this time 6 girls came into my room. Ranges from 6 to 8 in my opinion but no 9's or 10's still, I didn't see Lina this time around so perhaps she was still 'occupied'. Initially I was attracted to a tall chick with a school girl look: long hair and glasses, she has a nice full figure that's popping out of her half buttoned white shirt, unfortunately her facial expression made it clear that she was not in the mood. Instead I choose a smiling petite (5'2" ish) girl from Czechuan with a nice slim body, nice butt and a C cup I guessed. Her number is #899, she never gave me her name and I never asked. After the quick shower she gave me the nuru massage which was even better than my previous experience, I especially enjoy the part where she was titty-massaging my feet. Afterwards we moved onto the main chamber and did the usual, cat bath, BBBJ, rimming which she was less enthusiastic of, in fact she asked if I wanted it. She didn't offer to dress in any costumes or outfits and we went straight for sex. As you can imagine the action was not as thrilling as my previous Lina, but still her nice slim well-proportioned body was very enjoyable. Afterwards we cuddled and talked for about 10-15 min before checking out.

Overall I think Leisure club 633 provides a luxurious, safe environment for a gentleman to relax. Hopefully there will be more and better talents there in the future, however I think quality of the girls is hit or miss like most places. Since I spoke passable Mandarin with the staff and the girls I am unable to determine their 2nd language skills.

Hope that helps, will be back in Shanghai prob next year.

Midwestern
11-21-13, 11:10
I've mongered in many countries, but when I started mongering in China, I didn't know about this forum and it was my first time mongering without a local monger showing me the ropes. So, my first time in a BBS, I was quoted 800, LOL just LOL. I negotiated it down to 300. And this is what I now pay at my favorite BBSs with no negotiating. But from the local friends that I've made, they have all told me they only pay 100-150. I've tried to negotiate that price when I'm on my own, but the girls never budge below 300 thinking that I'm a rich Laowai, even when I try out new BBSs. They've even let me walk out.


Damn, I've never heard of BBS costing that high. I'm accustomed to 50. 150 rmb (10 to 30 minutes) from the BBS shops and the girls are young and not bad looking. Sometimes better looking than the sauna girls.

BionicMan
11-21-13, 11:20
Based on a recommendation from a senior member, I gave Miss Cathy a shot. I would definitely repeat with her.I searched on this forum about Miss Cathy to no result. Did I miss anything such as an early report or information on her?

I recall a MILF who was hot (and a bit strange in her psyche, but not dangerous) and willing to meet in monger hotel, but I can't remember if she was this one mentioned nowadays.

Emzchi
11-21-13, 12:40
Hi to all,

For whose like BBS (even just for the price.) in all Anyuan road there are several ones active.

In particular, if you come from Change road, when you arrive to Anyuan road, you can find them just turning left, on the right side and also turning right and going along Anyuan road, crossing the next street, checking on the left.

I've tried only FS. Damage is 300RMB.

Starting from Anyuan road and goind to the south along Shanxii road, I think you can find 2-3 on the left side, near Kangping and Xinzha roads.

Does anyone know some one else in the area (not Pudong)?Hi to all,

It looks that all BBSs in Anyuan road have closed. Police raid? Do you have news?

Thanks

Mike921
11-21-13, 15:20
I searched on this forum about Miss Cathy to no result. Did I miss anything such as an early report or information on her?

I recall a MILF who was hot (and a bit strange in her psyche, but not dangerous) and willing to meet in monger hotel, but I can't remember if she was this one mentioned nowadays.They're two different women, Cathy is also listed in the Classified Section. The other woman was Angela, a hooker (who didn't believe she was a hooker) who demanded f2f customer interviews prior to any action (LOL!).

Skepti10
11-22-13, 00:29
My 1st trip to Shanghai in a while, was going to try the Yuquan Pattaya Business Chamber but saw the warning on a website that it was previously raided by LE so decided to avoid. Took a walk along Huaihai Zhong Lu in Xuhui district and found this new joint called Leisure Club 633, I think it was previously named 633 Sauna and has just re-opened after renovation.Excellent report, seems similar to the KL spa scene with the free food and drink. What sort of dishes did they offer? How much was it total?

OldAsiaHand
11-22-13, 02:46
I've mongered in many countries, but when I started mongering in China, I didn't know about this forum and it was my first time mongering without a local monger showing me the ropes. So, my first time in a BBS, I was quoted 800, LOL just LOL. I negotiated it down to 300. And this is what I now pay at my favorite BBSs with no negotiating. But from the local friends that I've made, they have all told me they only pay 100-150. I've tried to negotiate that price when I'm on my own, but the girls never budge below 300 thinking that I'm a rich Laowai, even when I try out new BBSs. They've even let me walk out.Midwestern,

It is true. My experience exactly. Depending on the place / quality ratio, the local price is 100-200 RMB. I can never get it either although I do not monger in SH that often. They just let me walk. It must be an internal deal with the girls that they must earn more for laowai. That said, I have been successful for 300 RMB takeout several time.

Just mu POV.

OAH

BionicMan
11-22-13, 02:53
They're two different women, Cathy is also listed in the Classified Section. The other woman was Angela, a hooker (who didn't believe she was a hooker) who demanded f2f customer interviews prior to any action (LOL!).Oh yeah. That was Angela, now I recall the interviews she wanted to conduct in the hotel lobby before going up, right? I will read the classified, didn't think about a search there.

Waldeck2
11-22-13, 03:00
Pm box is full.


Waldeck2,

What kind of "shops" are you talking about? Pricing seems high for BBS and low for sauna.

OAH

Ungus
11-22-13, 04:35
I will be making my first visit to Shanghai in December and would like to know if there are any saunas or BBS near the Yuyuan Garden metro station.

I would also like to know how late BBS in Shanghai are open as every time I travel to Asia I have jetlag and wake up in the middle of the night.

Midwestern
11-22-13, 07:51
Seems to be around midnight, but a little later on weekends. Chinese people aren't generally late night people.


I will be making my first visit to Shanghai in December and would like to know if there are any saunas or BBS near the Yuyuan Garden metro station.

I would also like to know how late BBS in Shanghai are open as every time I travel to Asia I have jetlag and wake up in the middle of the night.

Ungus
11-22-13, 19:25
Thanks Midwestern!

After doing some research, I found 2 saunas in the area that are open until 2AM and one that is 24 hours.

633 Sauna (1PM. 2AM)

Address: 6 / F, Xuebao Mall, No. 633, Huaihai Middle Road, Huangpu District.

Phone: 15221381526.

Thanks to Mrpatsfan for the reviews.

Baiyulan Hotel Sauna (1PM. 2AM)

Address: At the First Floor of Baiyulan Hotel, No. 456, Xieshi Road, Huangpu District.

Phone: 18621345604.

Riverview Hotel Sauna (24 hours)

Address: 3 / f, Riverview Hotel, No 76 South Zhongshan Road, Huangpu District.

Phone: 86-21 63306060.


Seems to be around midnight, but a little later on weekends. Chinese people aren't generally late night people.

Beijing4987
11-23-13, 01:20
Two of my massage gal regulars in Jingan get of work at 6 and 9am. Other get off at 2am if no customers show up beforehand.

S.

Eems to be around midnight, but a little later on weekends. Chinese people aren't generally late night people.[/QUOTE]

Johnny1976
11-23-13, 02:57
Hi,

Sorry and new here. First of all, thanks if you can help.

The Buddha place at Changping lu near Shaanxi lu just change management.

Just wondering if anyone know where the old management and the girls gone to?

Thanks again.

Marty47
11-23-13, 04:00
Angela was fun but moved to Cambodia last June with husband.


I searched on this forum about Miss Cathy to no result. Did I miss anything such as an early report or information on her?

I recall a MILF who was hot (and a bit strange in her psyche, but not dangerous) and willing to meet in monger hotel, but I can't remember if she was this one mentioned nowadays.

Mgp23
11-23-13, 04:45
Hi,

Sorry and new here. First of all, thanks if you can help.

The Buddha place at Changping lu near Shaanxi lu just change management.

Just wondering if anyone know where the old management and the girls gone to?

Thanks again.I went there last week and probably got the new management. Prices have changed. 338 for BJ and 278 HJ. I suggest you get #2. No more than a 7, but nice big tits, and seemed new to the place so willing to do a good job. Normal massage 20 min, then tits massage on your back, the flip, and finished with a nice BBBJ CIM after playing a lot with her, she even allowed DATY. No tips at all

Johnny1976
11-23-13, 06:08
I went there last week and probably got the new management. Prices have changed. 338 for BJ and 278 HJ. I suggest you get #2. No more than a 7, but nice big tits, and seemed new to the place so willing to do a good job. Normal massage 20 min, then tits massage on your back, the flip, and finished with a nice BBBJ CIM after playing a lot with her, she even allowed DATY. No tips at allThanks Mgp23. Any idea where the old management girls gone to? The girls then was better.

PlaceKicker
11-23-13, 16:49
You can try Gudao Health Spa Club on the Changning Road. It has more than 4massage girls offering Body Lick (BL) , HJ and BJ etc. Address: No. 1788, Changning Road, Changning District t.Checked this place out and not sure what's on the menu. Never asked by guys at the desk or girl, no real upsell or anything. Pretty standard fare, about all of note was the chic liking rough grabbing of her smallish boobs. Where I've seen some say require absolute lightest touching, this one was like grinding for more when I was tryin not to hurt her. Didn't really last long tho, she actually gave up after 10 minutes from being tired. Didn't go for double time, then she basically was saying finish in one minute or that's it. Maybe its a thing against foreign, I dunno, Is there something I should know?

Beijing4987
11-23-13, 20:22
the girls rep001ter with the wind. we'll have to wait for reports of the bros that toft in the jingan area. that's why it's good to get their cell # or weixin, qq. then we can even refer our friends to them. i'm in usa now and keep in touch with a few isg bros that i have not met yet. we share notes and phone numbers

bj

Mike666
11-24-13, 02:46
I'm coming into Shanghai in a weeks time and have a few good days to myself.

I've got my sights on a Sauna like Pattaya and Sacrosanct but had a couple of concerns. Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian). Secondly, having a physical impairment (does not affect walking, talking, mind, dick) going to cause problems either? My most recent experiences in walk-in places in BKK are all positive and walk-in places in Malaysia as well. But I'm guessing China's a bit different? Or is it all in my mind?

I also thought I'd like to try my luck at Malones where I heard older filipinas hang out. But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me. So any thoughts on Malones? I'd like to give it a go and happy for it to be unsuccesful just for the experience. Another one of those unknown unknowns to quote the great Donald Rumsfeld. LOL.

I see that a lot of the private / high-end WL's are usually after white guys with money so I'm happy to avoid them but don't want to waste my time. Of course a report at the end of the trip will be forthcoming.Both saunas you've mentioned have a very "factory-like" mentality- you get in, you line up and wait, you pick a girl (hopefully not exhausted already) , you get in and do your business. I find Pattaya a very local oriented place so the girls might be more adverse to serving non-Chinese. You might have better luck with the second one.

You can't really generalize on how the girls will respond to a non-Chinese face, with or without a physical impairment. Most probably have limited experience and may not know what to do.

Pushkin13
11-24-13, 03:03
Angela was fun but moved to Cambodia last June with husband.Oh, sweet Angela is now in Cambodia?

What a pity: she had surplus energy and I was happy to help her burn some of it off!

Memorable.

Zai jian, Angela.

P13

Mottage
11-25-13, 04:54
Hi all,

I'm going to be in Shanghai in early January. I'm staying at the Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Does anyone know if there is much going on in this hotel? Apparently there is a night club / bar on the top floor and also massage. I won't be able to venture too far while I'm staying here so looking to get anything I can from there if possible.

Bad Boy Billy
11-25-13, 21:39
Hi all,

I'm going to be in Shanghai in early January. I'm staying at the Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Does anyone know if there is much going on in this hotel? Apparently there is a night club / bar on the top floor and also massage. I won't be able to venture too far while I'm staying here so looking to get anything I can from there if possible.Sorry to disappoint you but ZERO happening inside hotel or in 789 Nanjing Lu Bar on 65th floor. You need to 'catch and kill' outside hotel and drag the carcass home to feed your animalistic desires.

Mottage
11-25-13, 23:12
Thanks Billy, have you stayed there before? Is the Lu bar worth wasting any time there?

Is there anything worth visiting within walking distance from the hotel?

DeepDeeper
11-26-13, 02:44
Brothers.

Going to Shanghai today. Just got to know that I've been booked at Marriott City Centre. Now the problem is I have a regular girl visit me in Shanghai And usually stay till very late. Now I'd like to know if the Marriott City Centre is girl friendly or not. This is my first time in this hotel. If anyone know anything about it please let me know. I'll be checking in late as well. So no question of taking the girl in the room early.

Thanks in advance.

OldAsiaHand
11-26-13, 05:20
Sorry to disappoint you but ZERO happening inside hotel or in 789 Nanjing Lu Bar on 65th floor. You need to 'catch and kill' outside hotel and drag the carcass home to feed your animalistic desires.BBB,

Glad to see you are still posting mate. You always have a great way to describe our favorite hobby even if it is not always the whole truth. I sure miss the African girl you and I both fell in love with for her great smile. ;-)))

Just my POV.

OAH

Masslin
11-26-13, 10:00
Thanks Billy, have you stayed there before? Is the Lu bar worth wasting any time there?

Is there anything worth visiting within walking distance from the hotel?There'a Sauna called Wugong Hotel Sauna near your hotel.

Address:No. 431, Fuzhou Road.

The sauna is about 1km to Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Waiting for your report!

Masslin
11-27-13, 01:18
Checked this place out and not sure what's on the menu. Never asked by guys at the desk or girl, no real upsell or anything. Pretty standard fare, about all of note was the chic liking rough grabbing of her smallish boobs. Where I've seen some say require absolute lightest touching, this one was like grinding for more when I was tryin not to hurt her. Didn't really last long tho, she actually gave up after 10 minutes from being tired. Didn't go for double time, then she basically was saying finish in one minute or that's it. Maybe its a thing against foreign, I dunno, Is there something I should know?Hi bro,

As I know girls there will be happy if they are given tips. Also they serve the consumers they like warmly.

Ice Dragon
11-27-13, 18:07
I went there last week and probably got the new management. Prices have changed. 338 for BJ and 278 HJ. I suggest you get #2. No more than a 7, but nice big tits, and seemed new to the place so willing to do a good job. Normal massage 20 min, then tits massage on your back, the flip, and finished with a nice BBBJ CIM after playing a lot with her, she even allowed DATY. No tips at allNot sure this place will survive a raid, the girls are almost naked in the back room, my lady was wrapped in a piece of netting.

Bad Boy Billy
11-27-13, 21:58
Thanks Billy, have you stayed there before? Is the Lu bar worth wasting any time there?

Is there anything worth visiting within walking distance from the hotel?YES have stayed this hotel many times and NO DO NOT waste your time in 789 Nanjing Lu bar on 65th floor. ZERO action there.

There is a hoare house / kinda sauna on 4th or 6th floor of the fake market building at 580 Nanjing Lu. 20mtrs inside front door take exit door to left. Turn right. Go up in elevator. I think its 4th floor. RMB700 IIRC for 90 mins.
There'a Sauna called Wugong Hotel Sauna near your hotel.

Address:No. 431, Fuzhou Road.

The sauna is about 1km to Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Waiting for your report!Don't know this place but if Masslin quotes it it will be ok.

If you are happy to trawl up and down Nanjing Lu pedestrian walkway bw 6 to 8pm you should be able to 'hook' something if you know how to 'bait the hook' - I met 2 sisters here one morning at 8:30am and arranged they call me later that day at 6:00pm to come to LRM which they did.

Shanghai Guide
11-27-13, 23:47
YES

If you are happy to trawl up and down Nanjing Lu pedestrian walkway bw 6 to 8pm you should be able to 'hook' something if you know how to 'bait the hook'. I met 2 sisters here one morning at 8:30am and arranged they call me later that day at 6:00pm to come to LRM which they did.But if you are not very experienced, I would NEVER recommend to make any deals with the pimps on Nanjing Lu. Also most of the girls there are pimps and will not show up in your room for themself, and there are plenty of stories about guys who dealed with boys or girls on that road and lost 20 000 RMB and more. You can find some real stories if you use the search funktion here (Nanjing Lu Scam).

Bad Boy Billy
11-28-13, 06:15
If you are happy to trawl up and down Nanjing Lu pedestrian walkway bw 6 to 8pm you should be able to 'hook' something if you know how to 'bait the hook'
But if you are not very experienced, I would NEVER recommend to make any deals with the pimps on Nanjing Lu.But not everybody is a simpleton who will get scammed. I did say if you know how to 'bait the hook' - and I did say I dealt direct with the girls - can't quite see where I mentioned pimps - hoares can be scooped up anywhere anytime if you know what you are doing.

I have picked up a hoare coming out of subway line outside Hua Ting Hotel / I have picked up a hoare waiting in Maccas on Nanjing Lu / I have picked up a hoare in China Mobile service ctr one street back from Nanjing Lu - you are surrounded by them in China - just 'bait the hook - cast the line - who knows what might bite'

TheNewGuy42
12-02-13, 19:48
Hey guys,

I have a unique question. A female friend of mine and me want to do a threesome. I already feel blessed with that. But we want to hire the second girl to come to our hotel for 1 or 2 hours.

Where do we find a girl that actually chose for the business? Hiring a girl if she enjoys sex and the job is fine for us. If she has been forced to do it, we don't want to do it.

How do you know she wants to do a threesome and more? So not just a massage and HE for me, but everything with both of us.

What is the price?

What should I look out for?

Any website or girl recommendations?

Thanks

Ungus
12-03-13, 05:40
Hey guys,

I have a unique question. A female friend of mine and me want to do a threesome. I already feel blessed with that. But we want to hire the second girl to come to our hotel for 1 or 2 hours.

Where do we find a girl that actually chose for the business? Hiring a girl if she enjoys sex and the job is fine for us. If she has been forced to do it, we don't want to do it.

How do you know she wants to do a threesome and more? So not just a massage and HE for me, but everything with both of us.

What is the price?

What should I look out for?

Any website or girl recommendations?

ThanksHttp://www.shanghaihotescorts.com/

There are some girls who advertise 3some. Don't have any experience with this website so if you do try it please post a review.

RageQuuit
12-03-13, 14:16
I am staying at the Ramada Gateway hotel in Puxi (Tian yao qiao road). Does anybody know a place in Puxi?

I have to take a taxi and I have to make my rmb last 3-4 days so I'd rather not waste too much of it on cab fare.

Can anybody recommend a place in Puxi? Sauna or nuru or massage in puxi? Along with maybe a contact number so that I can make a reservation?

I would be extremely grateful.

Shanghai Guide
12-03-13, 18:49
Hey guys,

I have a unique question. A female friend of mine and me want to do a threesome. I already feel blessed with that. But we want to hire the second girl to come to our hotel for 1 or 2 hours.

Where do we find a girl that actually chose for the business? Hiring a girl if she enjoys sex and the job is fine for us. If she has been forced to do it, we don't want to do it.

How do you know she wants to do a threesome and more? So not just a massage and HE for me, but everything with both of us.

What is the price?

What should I look out for?

Any website or girl recommendations?

ThanksIt depends what kind of threesome your girlfriend expect to have. Most Chinese girls have no problem to "share" the guy, but they are "afraid" of any "lesbian action". So if your girlfriend also want to enjoy the 3rd party, than better check it in advanced and select carefull. Most escort girls I know will offer 3some, but I met only one girl who also offer lesbian action.

Another way is to go to Manhattan together and pick up a vietnamese girl. There are several girls who also offer lesbian action, but you also should clear that with the girl before you take her home.

With the shanghaihotescort-page you should be a little bit carefull, because 99% of the ads there are placed by agencies who normally will agree to lesbian action, even the girl who show up later will not do it. And also no agency there will work with real pictures and profiles, so the girl who show up will not be even similar to the profile in the web.

OldAsiaHand
12-05-13, 03:26
In Shanghai again this week, I was having lunch with a couple of veteran mongers and esteemed members of this forum and local residents in Shanghai. After lunch, my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners, but for 120 RMB BBBJCIM, I was not complaining. I was escorted out the back into a standard cubicle with a massage table against the wall. Being it was a bit cold, I only took off my pants and shoes and hopped up onto the table to get started. The service was very good and the girl had those,"suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" skills.

About 10 minutes along, there was some screaming and the girl bolted. Next thing I know, three LE are looking into the cubicle at me, half dressed with a boner sticking out as I am trying to get my pants on fast. Lucky for us, one of them just said was "Go, Go" and motioned towards the front of the shop. Obviously, I finished dressing up and took his suggestion. One of my mates hid in the toilet. We were waiting outside and gave the all clear when the LE left and he came out. As it turned out, it was just a warning call that there would be a crackdown and that they should not open for business the next day.

Call me a fool but I wanted to go back after they drove off since I did not pop. They welcomed me back with open arms and "mouth" to finish the job.

This was a wake up call that we should remember that our hobby is not legal in China and we should not get complacent. We got lucky this time but we could have just as easily been taken "downtown" should we have been there on the wrong day. Be careful my friends.

Just my POV.

OAH

Formerlybnc
12-05-13, 09:52
In Shanghai again this week, I was having lunch with a couple of veteran mongers and esteemed members of this forum and local residents in Shanghai. After lunch, my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners, but for 120 RMB BBBJCIM, I was not complaining. I was escorted out the back into a standard cubicle with a massage table against the wall. Being it was a bit cold, I only took off my pants and shoes and hopped up onto the table to get started. The service was very good and the girl had those,"suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" skills.

About 10 minutes along, there was some screaming and the girl bolted. Next thing I know, three LE are looking into the cubicle at me, half dressed with a boner sticking out as I am trying to get my pants on fast. Lucky for us, one of them just said was "Go, Go" and motioned towards the front of the shop. Obviously, I finished dressing up and took his suggestion. One of my mates hid in the toilet. We were waiting outside and gave the all clear when the LE left and he came out. As it turned out, it was just a warning call that there would be a crackdown and that they should not open for business the next day.

Call me a fool but I wanted to go back after they drove off since I did not pop. They welcomed me back with open arms and "mouth" to finish the job.

This was a wake up call that we should remember that our hobby is not legal in China and we should not get complacent. We got lucky this time but we could have just as easily been taken "downtown" should we have been there on the wrong day. Be careful my friends.

Just my POV.

OAHGlad I could participate in your near arrest! Don't return the favor!

TomSf
12-05-13, 20:05
In Shanghai again this week, I was having lunch with a couple of veteran mongers and esteemed members of this forum and local residents in Shanghai. After lunch, my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners, but for 120 RMB BBBJCIM, I was not complaining. I was escorted out the back into a standard cubicle with a massage table against the wall. Being it was a bit cold, I only took off my pants and shoes and hopped up onto the table to get started. The service was very good and the girl had those,"suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" skills.

About 10 minutes along, there was some screaming and the girl bolted. Next thing I know, three LE are looking into the cubicle at me, half dressed with a boner sticking out as I am trying to get my pants on fast. Lucky for us, one of them just said was "Go, Go" and motioned towards the front of the shop. Obviously, I finished dressing up and took his suggestion...I went to Shanghai a few years ago. I went into a couple of the window girl shops. When I got back to the states and told my friend from Shanghai he yelled at me and told me to dangerous. There are plain cloths police that sneak into the shop and do busts. If there is one thing Chinese hate is not Chinese banging their woman. If a US citizen is caught in one of these places. He will be banned from entering China for life. Also some stamp or something will be added to your passport for everyone to see.

Shanghai Guide
12-05-13, 20:16
Join our Shanghai Nightlife KTV Party on this Friday (6th).

This time we changed to a more "uperclass" KTV with better rooms and High Class girls selection.

They also have "student" girls (young Chinese girls in student uniforms) for selection, so if you like it, come over!

If you like to join us, than feel free to show up tonight.

How will it work:

- The party fee for the evening is 800 RMB for each of us including all room and crew fee and a (nearly) free flow of beer and soft drinks.

"nearly" means, if we are too less guys and drink to much, could be we have to change to "paid drinks" after some hour (beer 35 each bottle).

- Our party start tonight (this Friday 6th of December) at 7 pm with a short introduction, than around 7:30 we will select the girls.

- The sitting fee will be 500 for a normal girl. 600 for "special" ones. 700 for a model (and they have REALLY HOT girls there)

- In our party we will nearly not singing (so you should not be afraid about that) , but play and drink together and with the girls.

- Sitting fee in our KTV also include a lot of naughty games with touching and so on (the girls will be sometimes topless or take off their underwear).

- If you like to take out your girl, short time fee will be 1500, overnight 2000 RMB. We also have a "arrangement" with the mamasan, so if you like to pick up a sexy young Chinese girl there instead of taking a viet girl in Manhattan, you can contact our regular Mamasan and only pay the Mamasan Fee (RMB 600) and select your girl, no room or party necessary any more, so it is also a good investment for your future pickup adventure.

If you are new to the "KTV-Party-Thing" or never checked out a naughty KTV, you should take this chance and join our party.

Bad Boy Billy
12-05-13, 22:43
my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners,IMHO YES you should have been arrested years ago considering some of the hoares I have seen you fraternise with in days gone by.

OldAsiaHand
12-06-13, 03:24
Glad I could participate in your near arrest! Don't return the favor!Truth be told, Formerlybnc was the gracious host to whom I referred in my post. We have been mongering together for over a decade. He took me to the original BJ factory in Shanghai and we roamed "The Village" BBS area together in days gone by.

This is not the first time a place or area has been raided while I was present. Knock on wood, I have been lucky and never been arrested or taken in for questioning. I remember talking extensively about this subject with one LE in Shenzhen, Sha Tsui. He told me that arresting laowai in China is very complicated, like triple the paperwork and so much hassle that most LE don't want to mess with it. This is why they just give you a warning and let you go. He advised me that it is best to just come into an area, get a pop and split, rather than hang around, roam the streets and hunt too long. It makes sense because we stick out like a sore thumb and it is obvious to the locals why we are there.

Just my POV.

OAH.

P. S. Don't worry Formerlybnc, I will not return the favor!

OldAsiaHand
12-06-13, 03:33
IMHO YES you should have been arrested years ago considering some of the hoares I have seen you fraternise with in days gone by.BBB,

OK, there was one girl in Maggies that I felt sorry for years ago and the price was a bargain. Ok, she was a little on the heavy side but she worked extra hard tomake up for it. I will never live this down!

OAH

Bad Boy Billy
12-06-13, 06:32
BBB,

OK, there was one girl in Maggies that I felt sorry for years ago and the price was a bargain. Ok, she was a little on the heavy side but she worked extra hard tomake up for it. I will never live this down!

OAHAnd whilst on the topic of you being a cheapskate - why don't you tell the whole board how you negotiated that 'poor old rickshaw pedalling single mother of 9 hungry children' down from RMB10 to RMB5 to transport you, me and that big-titted blonde Mongolian hoare from New Hollywood to Maggies one night in Beijing. What a callous heartless man!

OldAsiaHand
12-07-13, 06:19
And whilst on the topic of you being a cheapskate - why don't you tell the whole board how you negotiated that 'poor old rickshaw pedalling single mother of 9 hungry children' down from RMB10 to RMB5 to transport you, me and that big-titted blonde Mongolian hoare from New Hollywood to Maggies one night in Beijing. What a callous heartless man!BBB,

As I remember, the "big-titted, blonde Mongolian was transported in the back of Andy's van from Café Decco to Maggies that night. I vaguely remember a rickshaw but I do remember we decided to walk between Hollywood and Absinthe since it was so close.

Just my POV.

OAH

Supmam
12-08-13, 12:50
So thanks to advice from the board I went to Sacrosa on a Friday afternoon in Shanghai. Excuse the chronology of the events, but I'm going to detail most things here. I went at about 2:30pm.

From the hotel near Nanjing Lu to Sacrosa cost me 48 RMB, pretty expensive because the driver basically had no clue. Perhaps that was by design, don't know, but it was probably 5 RMB more than it should be. He went around the block then did a U-turn, then shot past it. I only recognised Sacrosa because of pictures of the building on the net. Seems to me Shanghai taxi drivers don't like maps and don't like GPS systems. And like driving very fast. Walked into the building entry on the left, past all the restaurants and up to the fifth floor. Some sweet young things got in with me (please be available) but they got out at higher floors. All up Sacrosa is easy to find if you have the directions and is on a busy street albeit a little set back from the road. Search the net for images before you go.

Anyway, they seem quite foreigner friendly, as I was pointed in the right directions to the communal change room where everyone stripping off. Lots of helpers. When in Rome. Into the communal showers. I had a towel to carry with me but the locals seem quite blase about male nudity. Shower, then straight to the drying area and on with the boxer shorts and shirt. Kind nice to be freewheeling.

Once dried, led to a "room" that stank of smoke. I think the locals like to rest, chillax etc before the main course. The guy came for me but I asked him for a few minutes. There is a tall guy here who speaks good English so it could flow. He then led me to a small reception area and introduced me to about 15 women line up. There is no one-way mirror like in Annie's in Thailand. They can see you and you can see them. As discussed before, my appearance makes it hard to find the right one. Or perhaps that's Sacrosa girls who look generally miserable? Most looked unhappy or avoided eye contact. 212 kept good eye contact and smiled and that's enough for me. Not a fussy guy. As I've said in previous reviews, I'm not oil painting, so as long as the girl is happy to go with me, I'm okay as well. 212 was pretty in a round faced way. Not aqualine features but nice tits, curvy figure and pleasant demeanour. And of course no English.

In to the room, she brought me a drink of warm water, then stripped off and revealed a pleasant figure. Definitely doable.

Started with a massage of legs, back arms, then flip over and massage of front. Pleasant although a little straightforward. She then started with the action, first came the blow job. She actually had a great slow technique, with hot water. Unfortunately due to language barriers she only went for three or four minutes and when I said slow down she thought I meant stop. DAMN! It was really nice but far too short.

Then onto some rimming in two positions, first lifting my leg into a corkscrew around hers then on my stomach again. Once again, nice, a little too short. Not as good as Thailand but Shanghai is another country.

Finally onto the main act, her on top, then doggy on the edge of the bed, and then missionary. No DATY allowed but licking of breasts okay. I played it out as long as I could before coming at the 30 minute mark. All good.

After reading the reviews, I expected the next part. Which was by the numbers massage with no attempt at round 2. We tried to talk but language made it a pretty difficult experience. So much so I wanted to leave early, but she wouldn't let me, which was disappointing as it was pretty boring being naked, unable to do anything more and unable to communicate further. She did try a limp HJ towards the end to fill in time which made me smile more than anything else. A final ok to reception, shower, dry and pay 560 RMB and on my way.

Things I liked about Sacrosa. The girl was cute, pleasant and gave a decent service if only for 30 minutes. The facilities are ok. There is someone who speaks English. It's cheap. And when I wanted a taxi to my next spot, the English speaker took me to the road and hailed a cab for me and explained to the (useless) driver where to go.

Things I didn't like. More a general comment about Shanghai mongering. A lack of Chinese speaking ability on my part or even broken English on their part makes it nigh impossible to really get what the monger wants. I can understand why the guys on the board pay more for girls at Manhattan with all its risk because the level of English will be higher. But that's a minor quibble as 70 mins cost me around $100 USD which is cheap enough. And I enjoyed myself.

All up, although the desire was there to do more. Visit Pattaya or 1066 or Judy's, I left Shanghai satisfied that I'd seen enough of the Shanghai Sauna scene to not bother with those on this trip.

I will say one thing. Chinese local women are pretty damn cute if you have yellow fever and I reckon most men who don't have yellow fever before will have it in Shanghai at some stage. They dress so well. Anyway, I met a few local non-P4P women. One works at a bank and another in HR (met her in the hot tub of the hotel pool) to think I have some interesting leads to chase up next time. Both spoke excellent English and seem intrigued by foreigners (or perhaps their wallets, LOL).

In summary, I reckon the P4P sauna scene is great if you speak the local language, but for me, chasing local non-pros was much more fun.

PorscheDriver
12-09-13, 00:03
Hi guys,

Hope that someone can comment on the Paramount hotel next to Jing An temple; is it girl friendly or do I need to be cautious? Am new to Shanghai, used to play a little in the Guangdong province.

My company made arrangements in this hotel and I've been reading the forum yet couldn't find anything. Appreciate if someone may have info.

Thanks

Peter Christo
12-09-13, 22:37
Cathy. Shanghai.

One truly incredible lady.

I was lucky enough to enjoy her company thru dinner and breakfast on the weekend with a full night of sex, that rates as just one of the best I have had anywhere in the world.

She is classy and sexy with a good sense of humour.

And she loves her sex every way possible.

Her skills include:

The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible.

A real deep throat specialist who likes to feel your cock in her throat.

A luscious clit and pussy and the most sensitive tits.

You will need to get your tongue ready for she loves DATY and her DFK showed skills of a true artist.

Cathy's prowess with sex toys was only matched by my own 20 years experience.

Making her come on numerous occasions was just so memorable.

So treat her with respect and you will get the best escort that Shanghai can offer.

Skepti10
12-09-13, 23:40
Is 560 rmb the standard rate for. Sacrosa? I thought most saunas were in the 800 range?

Carage
12-10-13, 02:41
Is 560 rmb the standard rate for. Sacrosa? I thought most saunas were in the 800 range?If I remember correctly, Sacrosa is a dry sauna, which means no bubble bath / oil play, hence the price difference.

Most saunas in the 800 range feature nuru massage or the wet bath.

Mighty Spearsman
12-10-13, 03:00
Cathy. Shanghai.

One truly incredible lady.

I was lucky enough to enjoy her company thru dinner and breakfast on the weekend with a full night of sex, that rates as just one of the best I have had anywhere in the world.

She is classy and sexy with a good sense of humour.

And she loves her sex every way possible.

Her skills include:

The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible.

A real deep throat specialist who likes to feel your cock in her throat.

A luscious clit and pussy and the most sensitive tits.

You will need to get your tongue ready for she loves DATY and her DFK showed skills of a true artist.

Cathy's prowess with sex toys was only matched by my own 20 years experience.

Making her come on numerous occasions was just so memorable.

So treat her with respect and you will get the best escort that Shanghai can offer.Your very first post on ISG! Welcome to the board.

If nothing else, you are an excellent writer; I can't recall ever reading language such as "The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible" on ISG in the past. However, you forgot to include some key info, such as how much you paid her, did you give her a tip, did she come to your hotel or did you visit her at her incall spot, etc.

You also forgot to mention that Cathy's web site says that she will only see "White Western Males", which eliminates a significant percentage of ISG's readers and members.

Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10%? 25%? 50%? or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?

FreebieFan
12-10-13, 03:50
Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10% 25% 50% or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?Shock! Horror! Jumps back in astonishment. You mean people plant fake reviews! Oh my goodness! There's no integrity left in the world!

Mongers must unite to stop this from happening! I need to rest and have a cup of tea having heard this shocking news!

Peter Christo
12-10-13, 04:59
Shock! Horror! Jumps back in astonishment. You mean people plant fake reviews! Oh my goodness! Theres no integrity left in the world!

Mongers must unite to stop this from happening! I need to rest and have a cup of tea having heard this shocking news. ! .Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.

I have been mongering in China longer than you've had pubes or an erection.

I might be new to be a member but I have been watching ISG for a long time.

Cathy is genuine and am pleased to give her the highest accolades.

If you don't want to share my real experience with her. Fine.

Then us who do, will experience her, will have the best.

You can have seconds or thirds.

If you want send me a private message and I will advise my China cell and you can speak to me direct.

Peter Christo
12-10-13, 05:25
By the way, if you don't want to hear about my mongering from last week in Guangzhou then.

I spend 50% of year in China and you learn a lot. Good and bad.

With the bad I prefer not to dwell on it. But the good should be praised.

And that is what I did with Cathy.

She was well worth the $ and I surprised with my own tricks.

My experience is wide reaching from Shanghai, Guangzhou, Fuzhou, Wenzhou, Ruian, Taizhou, Dongguan Houjie & Changping, Jinjiang, Nanhai Guilin, Nanjing and more.

Probably more girls than you've had hot breakfasts as the saying goes.

But there are more cities I haven't tried yet.

Onwards we go.

So call me anything you like. But inexperienced I am not.

Over to you.

GregoryB
12-10-13, 10:25
Very well formulated, and I guess no need to waste any more "ink". I enjoyed her and she was great.

Gregory.


Shock! Horror! Jumps back in astonishment. You mean people plant fake reviews! Oh my goodness! Theres no integrity left in the world!

Mongers must unite to stop this from happening! I need to rest and have a cup of tea having heard this shocking news. ! .

ChineseAmerican
12-10-13, 10:29
Hello my fellow SH mongers,

Long time lurker. Coming to SH in a few days. Anywhere I can find some Russian friends?

Anyone want anything from the US?

Marty47
12-10-13, 17:20
I can't believe what you guys write-I broke Cathy into this business back in August. As a frequent guest to Shanghai for the past 12 years, I have to say she is the best I have found-If you haven't tried her, then don't write about her. Just got back last night and saw this post. I have to support Cathy, she has become a good friend and I hope she stays that way. Gregory and I have helped her get the website up and posting on the main webpages-she will do just fine without the "naysayers" here. Keep up the good work Cathy!


Your very first post on ISG! Welcome to the board.

If nothing else, you are an excellent writer; I can't recall ever reading language such as "The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible" on ISG in the past. However, you forgot to include some key info, such as how much you paid her, did you give her a tip, did she come to your hotel or did you visit her at her incall spot, etc.

You also forgot to mention that Cathy's web site says that she will only see "White Western Males", which eliminates a significant percentage of ISG's readers and members.

Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10% 25% 50% or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?

Wabbittt
12-10-13, 17:25
Cathy. Shanghai.

One truly incredible lady.

I was lucky enough to enjoy her company thru dinner and breakfast on the weekend with a full night of sex, that rates as just one of the best I have had anywhere in the world.

She is classy and sexy with a good sense of humour.

And she loves her sex every way possible.

Her skills include:

The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible.

A real deep throat specialist who likes to feel your cock in her throat.

A luscious clit and pussy and the most sensitive tits.

You will need to get your tongue ready for she loves DATY and her DFK showed skills of a true artist.

Cathy's prowess with sex toys was only matched by my own 20 years experience.

Making her come on numerous occasions was just so memorable.

So treat her with respect and you will get the best escort that Shanghai can offer.Fine but she charges RMB 1500 for 2 hours. In Suzhou, despite the current LE clampdown, a mere Laowai can get an overnight stay with a stunningly sexy girl for RMB 800. Suzhou is only 30 minutes by train from Shanghai so I don't understand why you are willing to pay crazy money for something that is available nearby for much less. PM me if you want details.

Marty47
12-10-13, 17:33
Further information-check out "The erotic Review"-9 positive reviews since August-not bad for newbie in the business!


I can't believe what you guys write-I broke Cathy into this business back in August. As a frequent guest to Shanghai for the past 12 years, I have to say she is the best I have found-If you haven't tried her, then don't write about her. Just got back last night and saw this post. I have to support Cathy, she has become a good friend and I hope she stays that way. Gregory and I have helped her get the website up and posting on the main webpages-she will do just fine without the "naysayers" here. Keep up the good work Cathy!

BionicMan
12-10-13, 20:20
Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.Needing some English lessons despite being a real Aussie guy.

Peter Christo
12-10-13, 22:15
Sorry guys but some of my words got deleted by ISG, so it became Chinglish in some cases.

Good on you Marty on helping Cathy.

Am planning my next meeting with Cathy very soon.

Viajando Musico
12-11-13, 02:25
Hi guys,

Hope that someone can comment on the Paramount hotel next to Jing An temple; is it girl friendly or do I need to be cautious? Am new to Shanghai, used to play a little in the Guangdong province.

My company made arrangements in this hotel and I've been reading the forum yet couldn't find anything. Appreciate if someone may have info.

ThanksI was there 2 weeks ago, and have stayed there a few times in the past couple years. Definitely a girl friendly hotel since the registration is on 12th floor, and you can go straight to your floor from ground without stopping on 12th. The night security guy at the entrance always felt asleep and barely opens his eyes when you pass by with your honey. A bit over priced now ($150 incl. Fee and tax). It was a good deal when they charged less than $100 2 years ago. But so is everything else in Shanghai. Rooms are generally clean, but some are a bit worn. Breakfast is great, and very close to Manhattan if that is your playground. It is a good 4 star hotel with limited amenity, but not 5 as most reservation website puts it.

Mighty Spearsman
12-11-13, 04:00
Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.

I have been mongering in China longer than you've had pubes or an erection.

I might be new to be a member but I have been watching ISG for a long time.

Cathy is genuine and am pleased to give her the highest accolades.

If you don't want to share my real experience with her. Fine.

Then us who do, will experience her, will have the best.

You can have seconds or thirds.

If you want send me a private message and I will advise my China cell and you can speak to me direct.Cute answer!

- I never insulted you, I praised your writing skills!

- I've never dissed Cathy, nor has anyone else on this board; my post related to your connection with her.

- I doubt if you've been mongering in China as long as you wrote, since that would mean that you were mongering since the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.

- if you've been mongering and reading ISG for so long, why haven't you posted anything before now? I've been posting here for over 16 years, going back to when this site was known as worldexguide. Org and run by Atta (who ran the board before Jackson took over) , yet I for one would love to read and learn from your experiences.

- let's face it, a monger whose first post reads like yours is bound to arouse suspicion.

I'm willing to take you at your word that you're legit and that you are not Cathy's pimp. Now, start posting some useful reviews!

Fritobugger
12-11-13, 04:50
Fine but she charges RMB 1500 for 2 hours. In Suzhou, despite the current LE clampdown, a mere Laowai can get an overnight stay with a stunningly sexy girl for RMB 800. Suzhou is only 30 minutes by train from Shanghai so I don't understand why you are willing to pay crazy money for something that is available nearby for much less. PM me if you want details.If you live in Shanghai or are on an extended trip and have no reason to go to Suzhou, it sounds like a hassle and a waste of time to go there just for P4P. Cathy speaks English well, offers anal happily and is a nice looking woman. English speaking working girl is harder to find outside Shanghai plus most Chinese girls don't do anal. Add the cost of the train and a decent hotel and your cost is over the 1500 that Cathy charges.

Formerlybnc
12-11-13, 05:22
Truth be told, Formerlybnc was the gracious host to whom I referred in my post. We have been mongering together for over a decade. He took me to the original BJ factory in Shanghai and we roamed "The Village" BBS area together in days gone by.

This is not the first time a place or area has been raided while I was present. Knock on wood, I have been lucky and never been arrested or taken in for questioning. I remember talking extensively about this subject with one LE in Shenzhen, Sha Tsui. He told me that arresting laowai in China is very complicated, like triple the paperwork and so much hassle that most LE don't want to mess with it. This is why they just give you a warning and let you go. He advised me that it is best to just come into an area, get a pop and split, rather than hang around, roam the streets and hunt too long. It makes sense because we stick out like a sore thumb and it is obvious to the locals why we are there.

Just my POV.

OAH.

P. S. Don't worry Formerlybnc, I will not return the favor!But roaming around is half the fun.

Formerlybnc
12-11-13, 05:24
Your very first post on ISG! Welcome to the board.

If nothing else, you are an excellent writer; I can't recall ever reading language such as "The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible" on ISG in the past. However, you forgot to include some key info, such as how much you paid her, did you give her a tip, did she come to your hotel or did you visit her at her incall spot, etc.

You also forgot to mention that Cathy's web site says that she will only see "White Western Males", which eliminates a significant percentage of ISG's readers and members.

Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10% 25% 50% or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?Hahahaha. Nailed it

Elturcan
12-11-13, 14:11
Hello guys,

I visited Shanghai Hotel, It seems that It is clean and nice place. Only problem that there was not enought light in rooms. It gives cheap brothel affect. For my visit; they took me lockers, you put everthing to there. Then they take you shower and to room that you choose your girl. Then girl takes you the private room. Total damage is 700RMB + 40 RMB tip. In my case I was looking for erotic massage but they do only intercourse so do not go there If you look for massage, But If you are looking for sex It is correct place.

Mike921
12-11-13, 16:20
Ok, so the GF (Chinese) wants to do a 'couples massage' after dinner. I'm game, but expecting a fairly uneventful experience. We get to the place (corner of Yunshan Road and Zhangyang Road, Metro 6 Exit 3 Yunshan station) and check in. Special rate for first time, RMB68 for 70mins (each). Up to the room, two tables and a well functioning room heater. We strip down, the GF actually puts on the blue shorts (I don't). Two young female masseuse enter and get to work. Normal oil massage, my masseuse really liked my ass and actually called over the other girl to see and touch (made the GF a little jealous). Otherwise, absolutely no incidental sexual contact to me, but, later my GF told me her masseuse touched her (shaved) pussy several times!

Received a discount card on check out (free) , good for 30% off. Not sure if I should go there again, but maybe my GF should, ha ha!

BionicMan
12-11-13, 17:30
Not sure if I should go there again, but maybe my GF should, ha ha!Bring her there again and book 90' for her. Once she is in, you take a 60' course so you enter after she starts and exit before she finishes. And good luck!

Maybe in a solo room your massesue will show you more appreciation for your body

PorscheDriver
12-12-13, 01:45
I was there 2 weeks ago, and have stayed there a few times in the past couple years. Definitely a girl friendly hotel since the registration is on 12th floor, and you can go straight to your floor from ground without stopping on 12th. The night security guy at the entrance always felt asleep and barely opens his eyes when you pass by with your honey. A bit over priced now ($150 incl. Fee and tax). It was a good deal when they charged less than $100 2 years ago. But so is everything else in Shanghai. Rooms are generally clean, but some are a bit worn. Breakfast is great, and very close to Manhattan if that is your playground. It is a good 4 star hotel with limited amenity, but not 5 as most reservation website puts it.Thank you for the info, V. Musico; yes, I plan on visiting Manhattan and Judy's looked it up on the map and also read the forum. Appreciate all the good info posted here and plan on reporting back; will be in Shanghai next week.

FreebieFan
12-12-13, 02:34
Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.

I have been mongering in China longer than you've had pubes or an erection.

I might be new to be a member but I have been watching ISG for a long time.

Cathy is genuine and am pleased to give her the highest accolades.

If you don't want to share my real experience with her. Fine.

Then us who do, will experience her, will have the best.

You can have seconds or thirds.

If you want send me a private message and I will advise my China cell and you can speak to me direct.Being an Australian who can or can't spell or use correct grammar has what to do with what?

A dedicated monger with 4 posts who out of the blue, offers superlative endorsements, create suspicion.

Yeah yeah yeah weve all mongered a long time. In my case since before your granfather even thought of having a date with your grandma. Top that one sir. LOL.

I've been here 10 or 12 or 14 years. I'm on my third handle now.

And yeah I used to go to the old tea house in Hongquio, used to go to all the old bbs in the very old Gubei before developed with my trusteed yellow bike, can remember when Malones first opened etcetc. And also was here when this site was under its old name. So some of us here are vets.

As MS says (another verified vet) , post some reports, have some fun and enjoy. You sound sooo serious.

I've no need to talk to you. What for. So we can each marvel at how deep and gravelly and wonderfully aged our well mongered voices are? .

Beijing4987
12-12-13, 03:31
If Cathy is a great provider she needs no endorsements. This forum is about sharing, not a pissing contest. All countries are welcome. Good grammar is a plus.

BJ,

Sometimes in Suzhou and Shanghai.

Being an Australian who can or can't spell or use correct grammar has what to do with what?

A dedicated monger with 4 posts who out of the blue, offers superlative endorsements, create suspicion.

Yeah yeah yeah weve all mongered a long time. In my case since before your granfather even thought of having a date with your grandma. Top that one sir. LOL.

I've been here 10 or 12 or 14 years. I'm on my third handle now.

And yeah I used to go to the old tea house in Hongquio, used to go to all the old bbs in the very old Gubei before developed with my trusteed yellow bike, can remember when Malones first opened etcetc. And also was here when this site was under its old name. So some of us here are vets.

As MS says (another verified vet) , post some reports, have some fun and enjoy. You sound sooo serious.

I've no need to talk to you. What for. So we can each marvel at how deep and gravelly and wonderfully aged our well mongered voices are? .[/QUOTE]

ChineseAmerican
12-13-13, 07:35
Hi everyone,

I'm a long-time lurker and I'm finally in China! I'm so excited. I can speak a little bit of Chinese and am looking forward to submitting reports and helping out my fellow mongers!

I'm currently staying at the Shanghai Hotel and looking for some Nuru massage (I've never tried it!)

I found this place, but there's no address and I can't pay for the membership as I only have cash and RMB.

http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/royal-spring-hall-sauna/

I'm also in my 20s so I'd prefer to find some providers 18-20 near me.

Where are the best clubs? Anyone want a wingman?

OldAsiaHand
12-13-13, 08:15
Gentlemen,

Can I have a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)? I have also been mongering in Asia since before many of you were born. Going on 20 years living in China.

I would love to try Cathy but at 1, 500 for 2 hours she is out of my budget and based on the pics on her site, if in fact, that is her site, she is not a stunner. I believe that anal is her strongest selling point since it is not so easy to find in China. I am also somewhat suspicious about Mr. Christo but you never know.

Just my POV.

OAH.


If Cathy is a great provider she needs no endorsements. This forum is about sharing, not a pissing contest. All countries are welcome. Good grammar is a plus.

BJ,

Sometimes in Suzhou and Shanghai.

Being an Australian who can or can't spell or use correct grammar has what to do with what?

A dedicated monger with 4 posts who out of the blue, offers superlative endorsements, create suspicion.

Yeah yeah yeah weve all mongered a long time. In my case since before your granfather even thought of having a date with your grandma. Top that one sir. LOL.

I've been here 10 or 12 or 14 years. I'm on my third handle now.

And yeah I used to go to the old tea house in Hongquio, used to go to all the old bbs in the very old Gubei before developed with my trusteed yellow bike, can remember when Malones first opened etcetc. And also was here when this site was under its old name. So some of us here are vets.

As MS says (another verified vet) , post some reports, have some fun and enjoy. You sound sooo serious.

I've no need to talk to you. What for. So we can each marvel at how deep and gravelly and wonderfully aged our well mongered voices are? .[/QUOTE]

Shanghai Guide
12-13-13, 19:49
Hi everyone,

I'm a long-time lurker and I'm finally in China! I'm so excited. I can speak a little bit of Chinese and am looking forward to submitting reports and helping out my fellow mongers!

I'm currently staying at the Shanghai Hotel and looking for some Nuru massage (I've never tried it!)

I found this place, but there's no address and I can't pay for the membership as I only have cash and RMB.

http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/royal-spring-hall-sauna/

I'm also in my 20s so I'd prefer to find some providers 18-20 near me.

Where are the best clubs? Anyone want a wingman?Hi,

I think at the moment the best place to have a Nuru Massage should be the Jun Hao Sauna.

I attached a location card and a Location Instruction card here for you.

Should be not more than 30 RMB for taxi to go there, and worth the spending.

The Girls in a Sauna could be your range, also Manhattan has girls, from Vietnam.

Also some KTVs provide sexy young girls, but more expensive and you need some guys to join you.

Enjoy Shanghai,

Steven.

Don`t forget to leave a review of your session!

Mottage
12-14-13, 00:19
Anyone know a good source for Russian girls? Seems to be a few on websites but probably all fake. Prefer a Russian girl who can speak some English than Chinese girls.

Peter Christo
12-14-13, 00:41
Cute answer!

- I never insulted you, I praised your writing skills!

- I've never dissed Cathy, nor has anyone else on this board; my post related to your connection with her.

- I doubt if you've been mongering in China as long as you wrote, since that would mean that you were mongering since the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.

- if you've been mongering and reading ISG for so long, why haven't you posted anything before now? I've been posting here for over 16 years, going back to when this site was known as worldexguide. Org and run by Atta (who ran the board before Jackson took over) , yet I for one would love to read and learn from your experiences.

- let's face it, a monger whose first post reads like yours is bound to arouse suspicion.

I'm willing to take you at your word that you're legit and that you are not Cathy's pimp. Now, start posting some useful reviews!Thanks Mighty Spearsman.

I agree with your comments re my original post. And my Chinglish due in part deletions and changes by ISG, doesn't help.

After reading and learning from all contributors over all these years, I decided to start posting and Cathy happened to be my first post.

It could have been my fantastic lady in Guangzhou from the previous week but I am keeping her my secret.

Cathy's service over a 17 hour period with me with just meals and a 2 hour nap. Will be hard to match anywhere.

She loves her sex. Just bring a lot of condoms with you.

17 was our final tally.

Sure she loves her anal, but her deep throat skills were incredible and regular sex was great (she has a tight pussy).

She loves her sex toys and even names them.

Her attention to detail in achieving the best experince for you is something lacking by many escorts.

She uses mirrors and will have sex everywhere in the hotel room.

Cathy's friends such as Marty have mentored and helped her enormously.

To them I say thank you for introducing Cathy to me via ISG.

I am posting going to post soon of my experiences in other cities eg Wenzhou, Jinjiang.

Eg.

I had a gorgeous looking at the Powerlong Hotel Sauna in Jinjiang (Fujian Province) 2 days ago.

Normally the service is fantastic and they will do just about anything for you in the 90 minutes.

Not this girl. Beautiful girls doesn't equal good sex.

I still came a couple of times but felt short changed.

Some cities are difficult to mongerin, so am looking for help!

BionicMan
12-14-13, 06:25
Anyone know a good source for Russian girls? Seems to be a few on websites but probably all fake. Prefer a Russian girl who can speak some English than Chinese girls.What about Moscow? EE girls out of their country, apart UAE, are often bad providers.

Peter Christo
12-14-13, 06:37
Without giving away too much on my age or dates. Because no one can pick it from the way I look and act (still have a strong sex drive). My first trip to China was during the time that Russia shot down the Korean Airlines passenger plane. I was in Shanghai at the time, and it was scary.

Yes everyone wore green or blue uniforms and there were no cars on the roads just a lot of bicycles.

My hotel was the old Peace Hotel with no running water, no flush toilet and it cost $20US a night.

I had to be chaperoned by 2 people everywhere I went.

The only form of entertainment was the American Club.

Mmm how times have changed.

I have just now posted a review or should I say request for help on Nanjing.

Its a city I have not notched yet.

Mike666
12-15-13, 03:00
Hi everyone,

I'm a long-time lurker and I'm finally in China! I'm so excited. I can speak a little bit of Chinese and am looking forward to submitting reports and helping out my fellow mongers!

I'm currently staying at the Shanghai Hotel and looking for some Nuru massage (I've never tried it!)

I found this place, but there's no address and I can't pay for the membership as I only have cash and RMB.

http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/royal-spring-hall-sauna/

I'm also in my 20s so I'd prefer to find some providers 18-20 near me.

Where are the best clubs? Anyone want a wingman?If you live in Shanghai hotel, why not just try the sauna there? Think it is on the 3rd floor. Dry and soapie, try to get there early, say early afternoon, when the girls are still fresh. I believe you can even bring one of the girls back to your room if you desire. Damage is around 880 RMB

OldAsiaHand
12-15-13, 06:15
What about Moscow? EE girls out of their country, apart UAE, are often bad providers.IMHO, all girls out of their country tend to be bad providers. A good example is in Hong Kong where many countries are available. They all seem to be in a hurry since they believe time is running out on their visas.

Just my POV.

OAH

Anaximander
12-15-13, 08:24
Greetings all,

I have been a regular reader of this site (and its predecessor) for well over a decade, and finally thought it about time to "give back" and make my first post!

Was in Shanghai last week and went to Buddha massage. It's very easy to find if you follow the instructions given elsewhere. Look for "massage" and a buddha.

Went in with my colleague and translator (born in China bit lived in NZ since childhood). Shown to a room and initially 2 girls were offered. Didn't like either. So asked to see some more.

A further two were brought in and one was ok. 6.5 body. 6.5 face, looked about 25 (I can never tell the ages of Chinese girls!). So I chose her. Was explained that the deal is CNY 288 for HJ or 328 for BBBJ. My colleague was sceptical that anything more was on offer, but I assured him that it would be (recall: he is the Chinese one!).

She showed me to the shower then disappeared. I got washed then she came back and followed suit. NB no money had changed hands at this point.

When she took her clothes off I saw a caesarian scar (it is just me or is this a common feature of Chinese (W) Gs?). She proceeded to give a massage. I indicated with my hands that I wanted more than the "standard" service, and after a few minutes the upsell began. Her first quote was CNY 1,000; I countered with CNY 1! To make things clear, she explained that I would pay the house 338 and her x; and the next quote for x was 600. I countered by suggesting she pay me 2,000. She was quite playful and giggled at most of my absurdity.

Finally I agreed to pay her 300 (so total 638) for about an hour of BBBJ and FS. Sex was good, plenty of positions, she clearly was into it although didn't let go enough for kissing. All in all, a reasonable punt I may repeat.

She did tell me her name at the start but I can't remember! I got her mobile number and QQ address at the end, and she also wrote her name (in Chinese) but I haven't got my colleague to transliterate it for me so I'm afraid I still can't tell the forum who she is!

More posts to come. Thanks to previous posters for info which helped find this place.

AX

Fuzimiao
12-15-13, 12:57
A CHINESE man was detained after he stabbed a foreigner to death in a hotpot restaurant in the Pudong New Area last night.

The incident happened about 8:30pm at an outlet of the popular Haidilao hotpot restaurant on Zhangyang Road.

The alleged killer, surnamed Wu, hails from east China's Shandong Province. Waiving a knife, he entered the restaurant and rushed toward the table which was occupied by the foreigner and a woman, witnesses said.

The foreigner was then seen lying on the floor in a pool of blood.

Following preliminary investigation, police said Wu suspected the foreigner of having an affair with his wife. No other details were available. The case is still under investigation.

Bad Boy Billy
12-15-13, 21:54
IMHO, all girls out of their country tend to be bad providers.Hmmm. Posting drunk again my friend?

I seem to remember a certain 23yo Kenyan girl whom you played rolly polly in the hay With some time ago. Bad performer?

Personally I do not think you can cover this subject with broad brushed statements. I have had fabulous experiences with Ruskies, Uzbeks, Ukrainian girls in China. But I have had my share of duds also. Had a spectacular Spanish lady out of Manhattan in April this year. Had a sensational Sth African princess out of Brown Sugar in Xin Tian Di (is it still closed does anybody know). Had brain numbing Venezuelan out of Zapatas last year. But I have had my duds too.

BUT.

When it comes to the freelancers in Bars. IMHO the foreigners leave the whingeing moaning complaining under performing Chinese for dead.

Bad Boy Billy
12-15-13, 21:57
Anyone know a good source for Russian girls? Seems to be a few on websites but probably all fake. Prefer a Russian girl who can speak some English than Chinese girls.Mottage you can try Bar Rouge as usually some working there. Occasionally you can find them in Zapatas or that newish brewery bar opposite Zapatas. Seldom find them in Manhattan now. Occasionally in Luna at Xin Tian Di. Good luck. Feel free to report back.

Mike921
12-16-13, 08:16
New MP behind Starbucks on Jinxiang Road. In Jinqiao (replaced another which closed a few months back). Seems to be just a HJ joint, despite the most expensive menu item (RMB368, 80 mins) is 'SPA' (turned out to be assisted bath and HJ). Girl (early 20s, Hunan) was nice, but wouldn't even consider negotiating for FS. Saw another girl on my way out that looked like she would be more amenable, but I won't return to find out.

OldAsiaHand
12-17-13, 06:12
Hmmm. Posting drunk again my friend?

I seem to remember a certain 23yo Kenyan girl whom you played rolly polly in the hay With some time ago. Bad performer?

Personally I do not think you can cover this subject with broad brushed statements. I have had fabulous experiences with Ruskies, Uzbeks, Ukrainian girls in China. But I have had my share of duds also. Had a spectacular Spanish lady out of Manhattan in April this year. Had a sensational Sth African princess out of Brown Sugar in Xin Tian Di (is it still closed does anybody know). Had brain numbing Venezuelan out of Zapatas last year. But I have had my duds too.

BUT.

When it comes to the freelancers in Bars. IMHO the foreigners leave the whingeing moaning complaining under performing Chinese for dead.BBB,

I guess you are talking about Moureen. Can I mention names on here? I suppose first names are ok.

I will not go into the long story about how you fell madly in love with her, asked me to pay for her ticket to Singapore and when she did not show up, she called me in Guangzhou worried you would kill her for it. Leave that for another day. The most unreliable hoare I ever met but performance in top 10 of all the girls I have ever had! Unfortunately, that one has gone on to parts Scandanavian never to be done by us again. That said, she carried an Uganda passport.

Just my POV.

OAH

ChineseAmerican
12-17-13, 06:52
Hello all my fellow mongers! Here's my first report. Second to come soon.

Last night it was really rainy and I felt like checking out some of the bars I keep hearing about on here. I'm sure the rain affected my experience. I took pictures of the address on my phone and got a cabbie. I told the cabbie I was looking for a friend and wanted to go to a few places. I started out by going to Manhattan. The bar was packed. At least a 3 to 1 girl to guy ratio. Most of the women were Vietnamese and standing around near the walls. There was a scantily woman standing on the bar dancing. Most of the guys each had 1 girl they were talking to. The conversations seemed really intimate, if you get my drift. I walked around the entire place, saw a few cuties and then went back to my cab. We then went to check out Judy's. 2 blocks away from Manhattan, and it seemed like slim pickings. All of the women were older by about 5-10 years. I did see a few women who were probably 3-legged. I wouldn't mind trying out a 3-legged woman, but I want them to look like feminine sexy women. I saw some Africans too. From there, I went to Zapatas and the bar in front of it. The pickings here were dead. Mostly caucasian guys drinking. There were 4 Russian women in the back smoking. I approached them and said something and was soundly ignored. All of the women were chubby. Maybe they read the sign "no prostitutes allowed" that Zapatas has posted. Odd since the sign was only in Chinese and English. I had thought Zapatas would be great so I had let my cab go. It was okay, because there was a line of 6-7 cabs right outside. I hailed one and we went back to Manhattan.

One back at the Manhattan I walked around again, but slower. I wanted to get a good look at every girl in there. As I was walking, one woman grabbed my arm and said that she was the one. in there and she said . She didn't look it so I told her someone was going to pick her and walked away. As I walked past 3 women, one grabbed my hand and rubbed it on her friend's breast. We all had a hearty laugh! I found the girl who I thought was the cutest, made eye contact, and waved to her as I walked past. I then went to an empty bar stool and made eye contact with her again and smiled at her. She smiled back and walked over to me. She immediately placed herself between my legs and I put my arms around her soft waist. We started talking for a bit and then started to get down to business. I wanted someone for all night. She started out at 3,000 RMB and said "too much" with a large smile on my face. I mentioned how it was raining and that I had a nice hotel and we could grab a cab immediately. I asked her what her lowest was. She wanted me to say a number and told me that she would make me feel good, all night long. I told her 1,000 and she came back at 1,500. She asked me if I had protection with me and I told her I did. We settled on 1,200 because "I'm handsome" and she grabbed her coat, waived to a friend, and we got into a cab. We chatted briefly in the car and she told me she had recently come from Vietnam with a few friends. When we got to the hotel, we played it cool as we walked through the lobby and into the elevator with two other Caucasians.

Once we got into the room, I said "hooray!" and gave her a big hug. She started to try to kiss me, but I only let her kiss me on the cheeks. She started to take off my clothes and then hers. I told her I wanted to shower first and she said okay. As soon as she lowered her dress, I saw that she had breasts the size of firm cantaloupes. A delightful surprise as her dress had hidden how large she was up top. I'm quite the boobie lover! We went into the shower and she began to soap and wash me, paying lots of attention to playing with my little soldier. She then washed herself. She seemed very shy and would cover her chest whenever she had the opportunity, whether it was with the shower curtain or the bed sheets. After we showered, she dried me off and we went into the bedroom. She had me lay down and started to softly kiss and suck my nipples. Then she kissed her way down towards my groin. I asked her if she could use a cover and she said we didn't need one. I objected, but she smiled at me and started to gently lick my shaft. She kissed and made her way to the top. Her lips were soft on my head. Then she started to deepthroat me. I'm around 4-5 inches so it did hurt a little as it pressed against the back of her throat. I told her I was ready to "make love" and she covered me up. Then she hopped on top and rode me like she was trying to break a wild stallion. The whole time I was squeezing and playing with her nipples. I wanted to taste them so I put my arm around her back, brought her heavenly globes into my mouth and took over. She shuddered and told me she had come. Of course I have no way to know if she did. She pulled my breast from her mouth and signaled a position change. She got on all fours and I couldn't do much to say no. I position myself behind her, positioned myself inside her, grabbed her hips, and went to work. She did moan quite a bit and I was worried about my neighbors, but I soon forgot about them as I moved my hand to grobe her breast while pounding her from behind. I was about to come so I pulled out and told her to lie on her back. Alas, those few minutes were not enough as I soon climaxed inside her. The whole time she was licking my ear and neck. She took my hand and led me into the bathroom where she took off the spent, and filled, condom and wiped me off. Then we showered again. We got into bed and went to sleep. She really liked to lean her head on my arm and wrapped one leg around my torso.

In the middle of the night, I woke up and noticed I had a hardon. Apparently she noticed too because she started to squeeze and caress it. I had told her I wanted to go again in the morning, but this was extremely unexpected. I started to rub her clit and she became wet. Then I told her to wrap me up and she rode me again. We switched to doggy and finally I put some pillows under her hips to a modified doggy. To tell the truth, I did this so I could have full access to both of her tits while still being able to pound her snatch with my body weight. I came again. She cleaned me again. We slept.

She had said she'd grab breakfast with me, but when the morning came she said she was going back to her hotel. We embraced again. She kissed me on both cheeks and left.

Her gentle, sweet scent is still in my hotel room.

Mighty Spearsman
12-18-13, 15:48
Hello all my fellow mongers! Here's my first report. Second to come soon.

Hen she started to deepthroat me. I'm around 4-5 inches so it did hurt a little as it pressed against the back of her throat.
Great report! However, are you sure you want us to know that?

MayanKanand
12-19-13, 03:09
Great report! However, are you sure you want us to know that?Haven't we crossed the age of looking and comparing in shower / locker room? But, I do agree with you. We need not know the member's details. *laughing*

PorscheDriver
12-19-13, 19:03
Before travelling Shanghai, I've read reports as far back as 2009; lot's of good information and many thanks to all contributors.

One report caught my eyes and I thought I would check into it; I'm running low on V and was looking where I could buy the real stuff. What I'm about to write has been already said by another member some time back, I don't claim ownership.

Thought it would be good to tell others of this place again. On west Nanjing road, about 250 m east of jingan temple metro station is the Portman Ritz Carlton hotel; it is sitting back from the road a little and has many businesses alongside it's entrance. One a Starbucks.

Walking toward the hotel on the western side, just past the entrance to the underground garage, is a staircase leading to the upper part. Go up and you're faces by a dental center and a medical place; on the left of these, right at the corner, you see a green cross, the sign for a pharmacy.

It is just a small place and a young woman greeted me from behind her desk, asking what she could help me with; her english was pretty good. L had written the words 'Viagara' and 'Phizer' on my phone, which I showed to her. She asked how many and went to a cabinet to come back with a package of 10; cost was 965 RMB's.

These are the 100 mg, individually packaged pills; no questions about a prescription, I was out within 3 minutes. Hope I was clear enough in describing this place.

Stegram
12-19-13, 19:32
Great report! However, are you sure you want us to know that?Large endowment in the USA is an asset. Girls never complain "you too big". In China it seems to be the opposite. At least with working girls.

Bad Boy Billy
12-19-13, 22:05
I'm around 4-5 inchesWOW - you're a GIANT Compared to OAH!

SamCan
12-20-13, 02:16
wow - you're a giant compared to oah!peeking again billy? or jealous? lol

ScaPom
12-21-13, 23:59
This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls). Now, if you like the small spinner type (I actually don't, as I like them taller; she is an exception for me though!) you can't really go wrong here, just drop by and see if you like her. And don't let her small frame and cuddly demeanor deceive you, this woman can go on for hours on end.

And don't be scared of her retriever, he is tame. In case someone thinks that is posting is more of an advertisement than anything else, feel free to move it.

Marty47
12-22-13, 20:43
Sounds great-but how do we contact her? You don't have an inbox.


This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls). Now, if you like the small spinner type (I actually don't, as I like them taller; she is an exception for me though!) you can't really go wrong here, just drop by and see if you like her. And don't let her small frame and cuddly demeanor deceive you, this woman can go on for hours on end.

And don't be scared of her retriever, he is tame. In case someone thinks that is posting is more of an advertisement than anything else, feel free to move it.

Keepcon
12-23-13, 02:51
Coming from Loushanguan road metro station and walking in direction Changning road you find the massage shops shortly before the intersection on the right side. At least 3 shops are in this area.Finally tracked down Sarawak 50's shop. It is one of three just passed Yunwunshan Road on Loushanguan Road. It advertises a Romantic Bath Massage 90 min for RMB298.

Found it at about 11.30pm and the area was pretty quiet but still had to wait 10 minutes on arrival. 2 degrees outside. Must have been 30 inside! Much as Sarawak described. I was assigned No 8. Probably in her 30's but shapely. Don't know whether it was because I was an older foreigner with only limited Mandarin, but she was a little shy, almost embarrassed when I turned around as she undressed for the b2b. Strangely she kept panties on, but free access was granted to all areas (laundry must be an issue with that oil) by the end of the b2b she had definitely warmed up and the panties were gone. Big surprise was no see section scar. Although it was late (perhaps because I was her last customer for the night she was very keen for more. Warning BYO tata) A good time was had by all but it was apparent that we had to keep the noise down. Tipped 1 red Mao. Probably should have been more but was all the cash I had on me and didn't want to spoil it for any who follow. Total damage RMB400 for bath massage fun and 90 minutes of overheating. As I am close to 50 age of the service provider was no issue and her attitude makes a return visit likely.

Beijing4987
12-23-13, 03:56
PlaceKicker.

I know one provider who gives an awesome massage and handjob. The boss keeps all of the door fee if 168, so some may be motivated to do BJ. I was offered BJ there once a two years ago. #9 will make you feel great. #98 RongHua Road. Lots of nice racks there. They will demand 200 tip for hand job.

Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.[/QUOTE]

T1234
12-24-13, 00:45
Where are those smaller places that just offer a quick BBBJCIM for 150rmb or so?

I've been to one 10 years ago and it was great. No questions or talking involved. It was near the Hong kong plaza.

Are there more of them? Are they recognizable from the street? I have read lots of research about saunas, BBS, clubs, etc. But not these places.

I'm staying near Nanjing Lu. I am also curious for a nearby sauna recommendation to add to my research.

Thanks in advance.

Fast Eddie 48
12-24-13, 23:36
Where are those smaller places that just offer a quick BBBJCIM for 150rmb or so?

I've been to one 10 years ago and it was great. No questions or talking involved. It was near the Hong kong plaza.

Are there more of them? Are they recognizable from the street? I have read lots of research about saunas, BBS, clubs, etc. But not these places.

I'm staying near Nanjing Lu. I am also curious for a nearby sauna recommendation to add to my research.

Thanks in advance.To T1234.

Keep Dreaming newbie that is 10 yr ago China change alot this days everything gone up in price now days, if you want to get a BBBJCIM for 25 USD go to a 3rd world country and find yourself a old lady.

Fast Eddie 48

Rjsss212
12-25-13, 00:43
. If you want to get a BBBJCIM for 25 USD go to a 3rd world country and find yourself a old lady.

Fast Eddie 48Sounds about right, $25 equals about 800Bhat and that's pretty much what you'the get on Beach Road, Pattaya. A lady well past her use by date.

BTW, isn't China 3rd world?

OldAsiaHand
12-25-13, 06:14
To T1234.

Keep Dreaming newbie that is 10 yr ago China change alot this days everything gone up in price now days, if you want to get a BBBJCIM for 25 USD go to a 3rd world country and find yourself a old lady.

Fast Eddie 48FE48,

I was just in a place last month (see my post) where I got a BBBJCIM for 120RMB. OK, the girls were not young or stunners but they were not old ladies either. I don't know the name or address of the place since I was taken there by a veteran monger but it illustrates that this service is still available in SH at reasonable prices.

Just my POV.

OAH

Rjsss212
12-25-13, 15:20
FE48,

I was just in a place last month (see my post) where I got a BBBJCIM for 120RMB. I don't know the name or address of the place since I was taken there by a veteran monger.

OAHDid he blindfold you?

OldAsiaHand
12-26-13, 04:17
Did he blindfold you?Rjsss212,

No, but I am not so familiar with the outskirts of SH. We took a taxi and I did not pay much attention to the roads. I will ask the veteran monger to post the location.

OAH

SamCan
12-26-13, 17:32
So I recall last year all the expats went home for the Christmas holidays and Manhattans was dead. The pinay and viet girls were caught flat footed (as they did not know this happens at Chrstmas) and discounted heavy as the laws of supply and demand were in effect.

Did they learn their lesson this year or was this another holiday for monger history? Unfortunately I will not be there to partake if so.

Shanghai Guide
12-26-13, 19:04
BTW, isn't China 3rd world?Most parts of China can be called 3rd world, but Shanghai unfortunally not even similar to a 3rd world area.

Prices here are much higher. 120 RMB for a BBBJCIM in Shanghai too less, but a pretty good price for other areas in China.

Rjsss212
12-26-13, 20:47
OAH, since most people don't stay in the outskirts wouldn't the round trip taxi fare eat into any potential savings bringing the total cost back up to city prices while adding unnecessary time and potential complications?


Rjsss212,

No, but I am not so familiar with the outskirts of SH. We took a taxi and I did not pay much attention to the roads. I will ask the veteran monger to post the location.

OAHSG, I am very familiar with Shanghai and though I was being playfully sardonic, your description applies to almost any major city in most 3rd world countries I. E Bangkok, et. Al.


Most parts of China can be called 3rd world, but Shanghai unfortunally not even similar to a 3rd world area.

Prices here are much higher. 120 RMB for a BBBJCIM in Shanghai too less, but a pretty good price for other areas in China.

Aries3288
12-27-13, 02:10
This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls). Now, if you like the small spinner type (I actually don't, as I like them taller; she is an exception for me though!) you can't really go wrong here, just drop by and see if you like her. And don't let her small frame and cuddly demeanor deceive you, this woman can go on for hours on end.

And don't be scared of her retriever, he is tame. In case someone thinks that is posting is more of an advertisement than anything else, feel free to move it.Hi ScaPom,

Care to share contact info? I am planning to be in Shanghai early next year.

OldAsiaHand
12-27-13, 02:57
OAH, since most people don't stay in the outskirts wouldn't the round trip taxi fare eat into any potential savings bringing the total cost back up to city prices while adding unnecessary time and potential complications?

SG, I am very familiar with Shanghai and though I was being playfully sardonic, your description applies to almost any major city in most 3rd world countries I. E Bangkok, et. Al.Rjsss212,

The taxi fare was only around 25RMB one way and there were three of us. It was not that far away in fact. I was after a BBBJCIM. That was the specialty of the house. We were reminiscing about the old BJ Factory from days gone by. There were also a couple of FS BBS on the same road.

I agree that if good BJ service is available closer to town, it makes more sense. Do you know any places that specialize in this?

Just my POV.

OAH

Ungus
12-28-13, 09:55
No. 431, Fuzhou Road, Huangpu District.

Stopped by this place a little after midnight. Changed clothes in the locker room and taken directly to the room.

Only 3 girls were available. Chose a petite spinner from Dongbei. Showered separately then got on the bed and started with BBBJ.

On with the cover and into missionary. Told her to turn around but she said she did not do doggie so we changed into cowgirl.

Total damage 680 rmb. Overall experience was pretty disappointing.

ScaPom
12-29-13, 00:00
Sounds great-but how do we contact her? You don't have an inbox.
Hi ScaPom,

Care to share contact info? I am planning to be in Shanghai early next year.Well in defense of my earlier post I have to say that I originally posted her cellphone as well as qq number, but they obviously got removed (I didn't check the forum after posting, so I just realized). Now the question is if it is allowed to post numbers in the advertisement section? If so I would post it there. If not, I'd have to think long and hard on whether or not to purchase an account. It seems like there comes a time in the life of every reasonably young guy, somewhere right in the middle of grad school, where one has to decide on whether to commit oneself to a life of mongering and other things vicious, or to stick to normal pickups and causal sex from here on out. Decisions, decisions.


So I recall last year all the expats went home for the Christmas holidays and Manhattans was dead. The pinay and viet girls were caught flat footed (as they did not know this happens at Chrstmas) and discounted heavy as the laws of supply and demand were in effect.

Did they learn their lesson this year or was this another holiday for monger history? Unfortunately I will not be there to partake if so.God forbid them from learning that lesson. Seriously though, would interest me as well. In case, I would start thinking about flying over to Shanghai next year, same time, just for that extra bit of holiday feeling.

Lost In Shanghai
12-30-13, 15:45
The business model at 1808 Beijing Road has changed. They now offer Romantic Massage for 398. It is a good full service deal, priced nicely between the wham-bam BBS and the full service spas. The body-to-body massage and fire-and-ice and Cat bath compares well to the spas. No need to shower in the common area, or wait for your turn while sitting on the sofa. There is a good shower in the room, but you shower by yourself. No lineup or fishbowl, either. I'm sure if you didn't like the girl that came to the room, you could ask for someone else. #9 does a good job.

SamCan
12-30-13, 23:10
The business model at 1808 Beijing Road has changed. They now offer Romantic Massage for 398. It is a good full service deal, priced nicely between the wham-bam BBS and the full service spas. The body-to-body massage and fire-and-ice and Cat bath compares well to the spas. No need to shower in the common area, or wait for your turn while sitting on the sofa. There is a good shower in the room, but you shower by yourself. No lineup or fishbowl, either. I'm sure if you didn't like the girl that came to the room, you could ask for someone else. #9 does a good job.Can you still just get a massage with HE?

Yuyuan Lu and Wanghandu lu (I think I spelled right) are the same owner. Have they changed as well?

Sam Can

Rjsss212
12-30-13, 23:13
No, not for BJ's, sorry.


Rjsss212,

The taxi fare was only around 25RMB one way and there were three of us. It was not that far away in fact. I was after a BBBJCIM. That was the specialty of the house. We were reminiscing about the old BJ Factory from days gone by. There were also a couple of FS BBS on the same road.

I agree that if good BJ service is available closer to town, it makes more sense. Do you know any places that specialize in this?

Just my POV.

OAH

Mighty Spearsman
12-31-13, 00:02
The business model at 1808 Beijing Road has changed. They now offer Romantic Massage for 398. It is a good full service deal, priced nicely between the wham-bam BBS and the full service spas. The body-to-body massage and fire-and-ice and Cat bath compares well to the spas. No need to shower in the common area, or wait for your turn while sitting on the sofa. There is a good shower in the room, but you shower by yourself. No lineup or fishbowl, either. I'm sure if you didn't like the girl that came to the room, you could ask for someone else. #9 does a good job.Thanks for letting us know about this place! One of my complaints about Shanghai was that there didn't seem to be much of anything between the BBS places and the over-$100 US places, so this is useful information.

Turgid
12-31-13, 02:25
No. 431, Fuzhou Road, Huangpu District.

Stopped by this place a little after midnight. Changed clothes in the locker room and taken directly to the room.

Only 3 girls were available. Chose a petite spinner from Dongbei. Showered separately then got on the bed and started with BBBJ.

On with the cover and into missionary. Told her to turn around but she said she did not do doggie so we changed into cowgirl.

Total damage 680 rmb. Overall experience was pretty disappointing.More Chinese girls have refused me doggy than any other nationality. I have been refused by street walkers and a bbs girl but never by a sauna girl, in a sauna you pay for that. If a girl pulled that on me in a sauna I'd complain to management immediately.

OldAsiaHand
12-31-13, 02:52
More Chinese girls have refused me doggy than any other nationality. I have been refused by street walkers and a bbs girl but never by a sauna girl, in a sauna you pay for that. If a girl pulled that on me in a sauna I'd complain to management immediately.Not only would I complain to management, I might even threaten to change the girl on the spot. In most saunas, the girls are under strict scrutiny to provide good service. For 680RMB, you should get what you want.

That said, I also get my fair share of doggy refusal in China. They claim it hurts them. Most of the times if I insist and agree not to pound them too hard they do it. My experience is that many WGs in China try to get away with the minimum service they can. BJ is another example that they might refuse.

Just my POV.

OAH

Masslin
12-31-13, 08:25
Thanks for letting us know about this place! One of my complaints about Shanghai was that there didn't seem to be much of anything between the BBS places and the over-$100 US places, so this is useful information.$100 is equal to about 600 RMB and there are many saunas offering full service in Shanghai, after the discounting the rate is less than 600 RMB. As I know, there are not many massage parlors providing FS in Shanghai.

Fuzimiao
12-31-13, 10:19
Not only would I complain to management, I might even threaten to change the girl on the spot. In most saunas, the girls are under strict scrutiny to provide good service. For 680RMB, you should get what you want.

That said, I also get my fair share of doggy refusal in China. They claim it hurts them. Most of the times if I insist and agree not to pound them too hard they do it. My experience is that many WGs in China try to get away with the minimum service they can. BJ is another example that they might refuse.

Just my POV.

OAHReminds me of a (Shanghai) GF who'd never given a BJ, after months of persuasion, she agreed, and immediately went to work with beakers of hot and ice cold water, and of course a small bucket to spit into! True Magic!

FZ

Lost In Shanghai
12-31-13, 10:43
Can you still just get a massage with HE?

Yuyuan Lu and Wanghandu lu (I think I spelled right) are the same owner. Have they changed as well?

Sam CanSam, at Beijing Lu they had a card with a single menu item. That appeared to be it. The change is very recent. I cannot say about the other two places. The last time I was at Wanhangdu it was a disappointing HE, and the last time ay Yuyuan they were closed for some reason and directed me to Beijing Lu.

Beijing4987
12-31-13, 17:48
The alleyway MP is on Wuning Lu. The intersection of Wanhangdu Lu is nearby. Too bad the service has gone down. They started wearing those tight underpants to keep us from FIV. I walked out when I saw that. All we have is memories of #18#10 (her sister) and #8. All highly motivated performers.

BJ, longing for Shanghai MP's.

]Sam, at Beijing Lu they had a card with a single menu item. That appeared to be it. The change is very recent. I cannot say about the other two places. The last time I was at Wanhangdu it was a disappointing HE, and the last time ay Yuyuan they were closed for some reason and directed me to Beijing Lu.[/QUOTE]

OldAsiaHand
01-01-14, 04:36
Reminds me of a (Shanghai) GF who'd never given a BJ, after months of persuasion, she agreed, and immediately went to work with beakers of hot and ice cold water, and of course a small bucket to spit into! True Magic!

FZFZ,

I wonder how she knew about the "Fire & Ice" service. Seems she might have had a sauna gig in the past?

Just my POV.

OAH

Fuzimiao
01-01-14, 07:54
FZ,

I wonder how she knew about the "Fire & Ice" service. Seems she might have had a sauna gig in the past?

Just my POV.

OAHOf course I said "now just hold on a minute young lady, are you sure you never did this before?"

Like hell I did, I laid back and let her get on with it!

FZ

Marty47
01-01-14, 16:56
Just thought you guys would a shot of Cathy from behind.

Marty47
01-01-14, 16:57
Here it is. Forgot to down load.


Just thought you guys would a shot of Cathy from behind.

Poker Broker
01-02-14, 10:25
Hey Guys,

I am a long time follower of the board and have finally found an excuse to get over to Shanghai on business (I am a semi regular poster in the Melbourne, Australia forum where I live. Although slowing down as I get older and slower!).

I have mostly mongered Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia in the past so looking forward to taking on Shanghai for the first time.

I am still working my way through the last few years of posts to gather a list of saunas and clubs to visit. I will be in Shanghai between the 4th to 18th of Jan and will post as much info on my adventures as possible.

One key question I am yet to be able to answer from the board is how girl friendly hotels are?

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.

GregoryB
01-02-14, 12:54
Nowadays most better Hotels have room card controls in the elevator. If you expect a decently dressed visitor you did hand out your second room card to, they can come to your room alone.

In other cases you need to pick up a guest in the lobby and go together to your room. Most often also no problem in the afternoon or early evening.

Sometimes you may get stopped then you face that your guest have to register and shows her I'd, then go on. Its a bit embaressing and I always try to avoid.

If you don't know sit in the lobby and see with couples going to the elevator.

Sometimes "business floors" have a separate desk at the floor with someone sitting there. Same story as in the main lobby.

Gregory.


Hey Guys,

I am a long time follower of the board and have finally found an excuse to get over to Shanghai on business (I am a semi regular poster in the Melbourne, Australia forum where I live. Although slowing down as I get older and slower!).

I have mostly mongered Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia in the past so looking forward to taking on Shanghai for the first time.

I am still working my way through the last few years of posts to gather a list of saunas and clubs to visit. I will be in Shanghai between the 4th to 18th of Jan and will post as much info on my adventures as possible.

One key question I am yet to be able to answer from the board is how girl friendly hotels are?

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.

Marty47
01-02-14, 15:29
Never stayed at the Peninsula, but Four Points in Pudong is okay-I would stay at the Sheraton in Pudong-it is just next door 45 seconds walking. Owned by company and they interact on reservations. Much nicer rooms.


Hey Guys,

I am a long time follower of the board and have finally found an excuse to get over to Shanghai on business (I am a semi regular poster in the Melbourne, Australia forum where I live. Although slowing down as I get older and slower!).

I have mostly mongered Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia in the past so looking forward to taking on Shanghai for the first time.

I am still working my way through the last few years of posts to gather a list of saunas and clubs to visit. I will be in Shanghai between the 4th to 18th of Jan and will post as much info on my adventures as possible.

One key question I am yet to be able to answer from the board is how girl friendly hotels are?

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.

Shanghai Guide
01-02-14, 16:03
Hey Guys,

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.Generally there will be no problem to bring a girl to your room this days. Only while the Chinese new year end of January, some hotels will follow the rules more strictly, but now easy going in Shanghai. Could be you have to pick up her downstairs, but definitly no problem to bring her up (different to Beijing, where some hotels will not allow visitors in the room after 10 pm). You can find some basic information about "girls to hotel" here:

www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girlfriendly-hotels/

MayanKanand
01-02-14, 16:39
Nowadays most better Hotels have room card controls in the elevator. If you expect a decently dressed visitor you did hand out your second room card to, they can come to your room alone.

In other cases you need to pick up a guest in the lobby and go together to your room. Most often also no problem in the afternoon or early evening.

Sometimes you may get stopped then you face that your guest have to register and shows her I'd, then go on. Its a bit embaressing and I always try to avoid.

If you don't know sit in the lobby and see with couples going to the elevator.

Sometimes "business floors" have a separate desk at the floor with someone sitting there. Same story as in the main lobby.

Gregory.In hotels where there is a card, I ask the girl to dress nicely and goto the bar. Meet there and take her.

If its a pickup from Manhattan or Judy's, thats pretty difficult because of the odd timings.

RogerDodger5
01-02-14, 19:02
I'm new to Shanghai and don't have a lot of experience with P4P, but I was looking around online to see what was up and decided to try it out.

I read about there being some BBS on FangCao Road in Pudong. I wanted to start with somewhere far from home so I took the subway to the FangCao Road station after lunch one day. I took a stroll down the street checking out all the shops there. It was early afternoon on a weekday, and I didn't see any customers walking into or out of any shops, but they all had at least three girls sitting motionless in them. As I walked back from where I came, I walked into a random shop and a girl asked me "qiaobei ma?" I said yes and then chose a good looking girl with a slightly darker complexion. The first sign of trouble was when this girl looked back at me surprised and asked if I wanted her. She unlocked a door to a small passageway, locked the door behind us, and unlocked a second door at the other end. She led me into a small bedroom and closed the door. She started to haggle on the price, but it was strange as she wasn't looking at me as we were speaking with each other. She kept insisting 500 and wouldn't budge. I first offered 200, then 300. After a couple more minutes of me trying to convince her of 300 (which I heard was the standard laowai price) and her not budging an ounce, I said 400. Then she moaned and groaned and said ok, fine. Then she told me that 500 was the regular price and that I should be happy she gave me a good deal by saving me 100 rmb. Whatever. She seemed to just say the words and not actually believe what she was saying. I got undressed, she handed me a condom, but I told her I brought my own. She pulled it out of the wrapper, but I put it on myself. She pulled down her panties and I pulled the front of her dress down a bit to uncover her breasts. Not the smallest in the world, but she looked very busty when she was sitting in the front of the shop! She stroked my dick a little bit, then she applied some lube to herself and laid down for missionary. I got on top of her but she seemed to be grossed out and didn't want me to touch her. I tried to put a hand on her pussy and she said no, for that you need to pay more. I was kind of wondering what happened to the BJ as I put myself inside her. I wasn't super hard at this point as she seemed to be doing her best to appear offended by me regardless of her annoyingly fake moaning. I started the motions and she seemed to vacilate between being in pain and being annoyed. She made it really difficult to remain interested. I tried to enjoy myself, but couldn't maintain interest in pounding her. I laid on my back and she took the condom off. She put face right up to my penis, sniffing it and giving it a visual inspection. I almost started laughing. Then she proceeded to give me a HJ and it felt ok, but she had really put me off. We talked a bit about ourselves as I let her tire her arms. She said she was 22 from Guangzhou and had been living in Shanghai for one year. At the end, for grins and giggles, I pretended to come. She got a wipe and put it over my penis as she was jerking me and I simply said that I came. She seemed to believe it. Then her mood suddenly improved and she asked me if I was in Shanghai on holiday or business. I told her that I live and work here and her eyes lit up a little. I got dressed as quickly as I could and got out of there.

I felt like a complete sucker for paying 400 rmb for that. I immediately wanted to try another girl at another shop on that road, because I felt very annoyed and figured it would have to be better. Unfortunately I only brought 600 rmb and no cards with me in case I got into trouble my first time, and had only 200 rmb left. I could only look into the other shops from outside as I walked, but I decided to try again that night.

I had been to the fairly new Global Harbour shopping mall at the Jinshajiang Road metro station and had seen a few BBS next to it on Ningxia Road. I got there around 3 in the morning. I walked into a random one, and there was a single girl in the whole place. She was really cute and I started bargaining with her at 200 rmb. She said 300, I said 200, then 250, then ok 300. I paid her first and then she locked the front door and took me to the back. This place was just as clean as the first one, but the "rooms" were a lot more rudimentary. They were more like little cubicles with a tiny bed and a curtain instead of a door. With this girl things went way better. Every now and then she was making the annoying fake little moans, but I could tell she was enjoying herself. At one point she said she was about to come, but I was too tired to continue and stopped, so she didn't come. She kept complimenting my penis and my skills. I was wondering how much was bullshit and how much was real, but it felt real. She also rhetorically asked why foreigners all have fat and long penises, which I thought was funny. The entire time I had her on top, she wouldn't stop looking at my penis going in and out of her. I was having a great time, but it was really late and I was pretty tired, and I realized there was no way I was going to come quickly as the time was running out. She took my condom off and started giving me a HJ but I told her that it was fine, I had a good time, and that I usually last a long time anyway. She started to ask if sex was good with her and I assured her it was. She said I was very good and asked me to go out and drink with her, followed by her coming home with me. I said maybe. While I would have liked that, especially if it was free, I don't know about letting strangers into my home.

The experience with the first and second girls could not be any more different, and so far are my only experiences. I really don't want to take anyone to my apartment, so I guess I will stick with BBS and want to try a sauna. In this thread I read about a sauna on Loushanguan Road that offers FS for only 298? Is that for real? I thought the average would be 600-800 for that. I've never been inside but I know the place. I live very close to it. Also maybe I should sharpen my bargaining skills. The first girl was 400 and the second was 300, both with no BJ. Could I get any girls to go even lower?

Shanghai Guide
01-02-14, 23:52
In this thread I read about a sauna on Loushanguan Road that offers FS for only 298? Is that for real? I thought the average would be 600-800 for that. I've never been inside but I know the place?I also thought that sounds interesting, so I went there to check out the shop for our page.

Sorry for that, but I guess the post includes a missunderstanding or an incomplete report.

One of our guides went there and ordered the 298 massage just some days after the report was published to check out the place.

The enviroment is great (you can see on the attached picture) , but for our checking session, the service only includes a lousy handjob.

And even for that she asked for 200 extra first, so I guess for full service the other guy would have been very lucky to get it without extra.

Or could be he forgot to tell us, how much tip he had to pay extra for the full service session?

There is a level between barbershops and sauna places, where you can get full service including shower in the room, BBBJ, touching and so on. Without time limit.

The rate there is between 30 to 45 minutes for 400 to 450 RMB. We use to stop over there for a warmup f* on our nightlife tour.

Some of that shops are not far away from your place. You can send a private message for the adress.

ScaPom
01-03-14, 00:21
I'm new to Shanghai and don't have a lot of experience with P4P, but I was looking around online to see what was up and decided to try it out.

I read about there being some BBS on FangCao Road in Pudong. I wanted to start with somewhere far from home so I took the subway to the FangCao Road station after lunch one day. I took a stroll down the street checking out all the shops there. It was early afternoon on a weekday, and I didn't see any customers walking into or out of any shops, but they all had at least three girls sitting motionless in them. As I walked back from where I came, I walked into a random shop and a girl asked me "qiaobei ma?" I said yes and then chose a good looking girl with a slightly darker complexion. The first sign of trouble was when this girl looked back at me surprised and asked if I wanted her. She unlocked a door to a small passageway, locked the door behind us, and unlocked a second door at the other end. She led me into a small bedroom and closed the door. She started to haggle on the price, but it was strange as she wasn't looking at me as we were speaking with each other. She kept insisting 500 and wouldn't budge. I first offered 200, then 300. After a couple more minutes of me trying to convince her of 300 (which I heard was the standard laowai price) and her not budging an ounce, I said 400..In some places, and that not just being in Shanghai, it is virtually impossible to get them down to 200. 300 seems to be the standard laowai price these days. But there are exceptions, keep on changing the area and try different places, and you will find a good one eventually. If you go down the central alley from 1911 (big nightlife area) in Nanjing for example you will find that all the girls tell you it's 300, even though they just asked the Chinese guy who went in a second before you to pay 150. It's impossible to haggle them down. I even went with a Chinese friend once, he paid 150, but they wouldn't budge and so I declined to partake on principle. That being said, there is a dingy little place a few alleys further that asks you 200, and it's the same price for everyone.

Three years ago in Hangzhou, I had some good connections with the Mamasan of one fine BBS Establishment. Price was 200, the girl went with you to a proper apartment and I often took over half an hour (girls were all 7 to 9's in my book, good times). To try something else I went to a place just opposite once and they quoted me 600.

Point of the story is: Since your Chinese is most likely not too bad, you just need to keep looking. See it as an adventure. On that note: I would have gone for a drink with her. In my experience, it is always a good idea to go for the extraordinary. Especially in China. She might have genuinely liked you, who knows.


This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls)...I decided to sign up, so those of you interested in her contact information can drop me a pm now.

Cheers

Carage
01-03-14, 03:58
I had a couple hours to spare on 1/1 afternoon so I walked across the street to SiYuan.

Got there around 3:45. The wait staff indicated there is no wait and rushed me to go straight from the locker room to the lounge.

I originally wanted to get a deep scrubbing / back rub, but nevermind.

The waitstaff escorted me into a standard lounge and asked me to wait there.

Instead of going to the fishbowl, the manager led a lineup of six girls into the room.

I asked what happened to the fishbowl, the manager replied that this is New Year practice.

Alright, I picked up 861 immediately, the manager persuaded me to pick another girl so I asked 861 to recommend.

And 861 selected her friend 805.

861 has a small frame, probably only 15X cm tall, but great proportion considering her tits and waist ratio.

805 has a much larger frame and flesh on her, but she also has a pair of great tits.

Once inside the room, I asked about the lineup, and the girls replied because it is a holiday.

The six girls I saw is pretty much everyone who showed up for work today. OK.

Anyway, I highly recommend this duo. Skill level and enthusiasm are both high.

They offered to give me two shots, so I got my first shot off on the nuru massage bed / wet area.

Then we moved on to the bed, unfortunately I had some trouble concentrating after I got a phone call.

Regardless, they tried to pleasure me as much as they could. 861 is a great tickler, if you are into that sort of thing.

I think the standard service is still 45 minutes.

Still had an hour or so to kill before I was expected back at the Intercontinental for dinner.

Tried to get a ear picker girl but was told all of them were busy.

The staff persuaded me to get a foot massage instead and I complied for the heck of it.

Foot massage lady immediately proposed to upsell the dick massage,

I said I was worried about time but it appeared my little self is responding for me so I agreed.

After she managed to relieve me, my 5:30 deadline was approaching so I got up and left.

Total damage: 18xx RMB.

Definitely not the best service I had, but it is one of the better experiences in Shanghai.

Wish I had more time to fully relax and wait for the ear picker.

OldAsiaHand
01-03-14, 08:52
In some places, and that not just being in Shanghai, it is virtually impossible to get them down to 200. 300 seems to be the standard laowai price these days. But there are exceptions, keep on changing the area and try different places, and you will find a good one eventually.I often walk away on principle. I have found Shanghai to be the most difficult to negotiate but I have managed 200 RMB several times in different areas although it does seem to be the exception. The surcharge has been in effect as long as I can remember. Most BBS quote me 300RMB even if I go with a Chinese guy and they quote 150-200RMB for him at the same time. It could be an East China thing since the places you mention are located in that region. Perhaps, if you are a regular customer, it could be easier. Most of my mongering is in South China where I can usually get the local price or close to it. That said, many saunas are starting to implement a 100RMB surcharge for laowai. I wonder who gets the extra money; the girl or the house.

Just my POV.

OAH

Skepti10
01-03-14, 09:08
She kept insisting 500 and wouldn't budge. I first offered 200, then 300. After a couple more minutes of me trying to convince her of 300 (which I heard was the standard laowai price) and her not budging an ounce, I said 400.

And I started bargaining with her at 200 rmb. She said 300, I said 200, then 250, then ok 300.Damn LOL, someone needs to learn to negotiate! And / or walk away. I think the girls tend to stick close to their asking price since not many laowais walk away once they get in the room.


Most BBS quote me 300RMB even if I go with a Chinese guy and they quote 150-200RMB for him at the same time.They tend to charge more for those who they think have more money, e. G. Laowais. In fact once I let it slip I was from the west (but ethnically Chinese) and the girl got very cross saying I should've been charged the laowai price!

Also I want to assume the price goes up higher if they don't like your look? I don't have anything to back this up though.

Carage
01-03-14, 09:43
Went there again this afternoon.

Unfortunately both 861 and 805 were busy.

So I was presented with a fresh lineup of eight girls in the lounge.

(No fishbowl)

I immediately picked up 801, she recommended 852 or 855 I forgot the number.

In my opinion. 801 is a real stunner, great tits, nice abs, and also sexy face.

The other girl is really petite, I probably would have never picked her based on my preferences.

But it turns out she makes up for it with skill. She is a great licker and a master of using her legs.

The girls only offered me one shot so we did it in the bed after the nuru service.

Then they gave me a hot towel massage on my lower body which felt pretty good.

Apparently all the girls have some variations of the standard operating procedure.

Finally got a ear picker today. 902 is a real cutie.

Of course she tried to upsell the other packages,

But I said I was out of time so I opted just for the regular ear and head service for 15 minutes.

She repeated what my doctor said the other day about ear wax and cotton swabs, so I probably will be heading to an ear expert once I hit stateside.

902 has great hands, and the head massage was really relaxing.

I finally caved in and agreed to add an extra session for my arms.

The ear + head + arm massage package is 198 RMB.

So total damage was 1584 RMB this afternoon.

Today I noticed the title on the credit card receipt, now they use the name of a department store.

Vodich
01-03-14, 10:49
I visited Merrylin twice last week and both time as I was about to leave a girl would wrap her arm around mine. The first time the girl said a bunch of stuff in Chinese and I told her in English I don't understand, she finally said "go home?" And I said yes so she walked away. The second time the girl said "long time massage" so I assume she was asking if I wanted to take her back to my hotel. Do guys usually want to do it again right after they just did it at one of these places? I don't remember this being mentioned so I just wanted to ask.

Also, both times I was asked if I wanted two girls. First time was at the fish bowl, the second time me and the girl were already in the room. Anyone know how much it costs for two girls? Is it just double the price?

Thanks

Peter Christo
01-03-14, 22:01
Here it is. Forgot to down load.Thanks Marty47 for a pic of Cathy's fabulous behind and her favourite toy. Mr Pinky.

I get to see her again next week.

Can't wait!

Shanghai Guide
01-04-14, 02:40
Also, both times I was asked if I wanted two girls. First time was at the fish bowl, the second time me and the girl were already in the room. Anyone know how much it costs for two girls? Is it just double the price?

ThanksThey will only ask you for the second girl, if they have a lot of girls related to the number of customer, so never in "rush hour", but if the place is "dry of business", they will ask you while selection and also the girl will push you for that later in the room.

From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

But at least it is cheap, so not too bad for a first threesome try. The second girl will be charged with only additional 400, so not even near to the double rate. In cheaper saunas, the second girl will be 300, so you can get a 80 minutes FFM for less than 1000 RMB, but don`t forget it will be less than 5% chance for a really hot session.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.

OldAsiaHand
01-04-14, 03:39
From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.IMHO, the FFM experience described above is pretty accurate. Worst case: I have even been in situations with one girl waiting in the bathroom until I finish the first one and then switching places. It is never like anything you see in the porn movies.

The disinfecting and condom changing kills the mood for me. I do understand their POV. For them, it is the same as BBFS.

All that said, you can try to make the best of it. Letting one girl pick the second is sound advice. Girls that have experience working together provide better service. What I usually do is focus on one girl I want to stick it in and use the second girl as a supplement to play around with like a starter and the main course.

Just my POV.

OAH

FatKnacker
01-04-14, 04:03
Recently there has been some discussion about prices. So I wanted to make some observations, and ask some questions about bbs mongering. I've been in SH for two years now and have used bbs's on average once per week.

The price two years ago was pretty standard at 200 RMB. Also the package was standardised: BBBJ (occasionally CBJ) followed by covered sex (sometimes uncovered offered as well).

I did once negotiate the price down to 150 RMB. This was Spring 2012. But the plan backfired because the girl – who was incidentally nice looking and young – immediately started complaining that it was too little. She kept telling me to hurry up (she could speak some English which is unusual for a bbs) and told me that the guy in the next booth had paid 400 RMB. That may have been true because I heard an American voice say. 'that's about the best I can do' to his girl! My girl heard it too and began shouting in pidgin English to the guy. Just nonsense talk really but it put me off my stroke.

So since then I've paid 150 for BJ and 200 for FS. Occasionally (maybe three or four times) I've gone to 300. But the last three months I've been quoted 300 on a pretty regular basis. I have to point out that this is at new places (or new girls) where I wasn't recognised. I won't pay it. But it leads me to a question: where, how, and with whom do you negotiate?

Normally I walk in the shop, take the first girl on offer, go to the room and then negotiate. In fact I think I've always done it this way. But on this site I have read that some guys ask about services and prices in the shop. I'm not sure how this works. Sometimes people talk about a mamasan or papasan with whom they negotiate. I have only rarely seen a papasan. Maybe three times (and I inferred from their presence that there were some potential LE problems) and when I walked in the shop they never raised their head or offered to engage in any way. There is one shop on Pu Dong Nan Lu (near to the junction with Tan Qiao Lu where there seems to be a mamasan and she will mediate on any problems (she is also available for sex which I personally find quite arousing).

As stated on this site previously, knowledge of prices is the most powerful weapon on a monger's armour. Hence this appeal for further views.

The second pearl of wisdom is that in mongering, as with all things Chinese, personal relationships are important. If you go to the same girl regularly, the service and the price will be much better. Problem is of course that girls tend to move on but using the same shop helps a lot. The providers realise you know the craic and don't try to exploit you. The disadvantage with this approach is that you may become a familiar face with the locals. My method is to regularly use two or three bbs's in different streets.

Vodich
01-04-14, 13:02
They will only ask you for the second girl, if they have a lot of girls related to the number of customer, so never in "rush hour", but if the place is "dry of business", they will ask you while selection and also the girl will push you for that later in the room.

From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

But at least it is cheap, so not too bad for a first threesome try. The second girl will be charged with only additional 400, so not even near to the double rate. In cheaper saunas, the second girl will be 300, so you can get a 80 minutes FFM for less than 1000 RMB, but don`t forget it will be less than 5% chance for a really hot session.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.Thanks for the info! Will be back in Shanghai next week but still debating whether I want to try the two girl option.

Anyone got any info on the girl coming up to you after the session and how that works? I remember seeing like 3 girls standing before the door that goes into the room with the fish bowl before I headed in my second time. These girls are usually more dressed up then the girls in the fish bowl. They seem to be dressed like they're about to go out.

Poker Broker
01-06-14, 10:34
well i arrived saturday morning and settled into the peninsula hotel quickly. decided to take a general stroll around the city and was amazed how quickly i was approached by men and women offering me massage and "sexy sexy". all were extremely persistent and it was only from reading this board and the shanghai night life i knew to steer well clear. i also made the decision to carry only my hotel key (in my shoe) and the cash i was willing to lose if something went sideways. if i had not read otherwise, i probably would have taken any of these offers up on the spot. do all westerners have this problem of being approached and what is the best advice to shut them down quickly?

around 6pm i decided to head back to the hotel and plan my next move. this is where my laziness and lack of commitment post a long flight cost me. given it was still early i liked my chances of getting an escort past the front desk so started searching for something "legitimate". ended up getting a quick email back from baby c which i had read some reasonable reports and reviews on. well this is where my laziness, lack of commitment and obvious inexperience in shanghai kicked in.

"baby c" pushed pretty hard for my room number, hotel address and phone number. seemed like she was keen to make sure i was the real deal which i was ok with. arrived at the hotel within 30 minutes and actually spoke to the desk to get herself let up the elevator. this is where it turned sour. absolutely no chance the girl i was looking at was the girl in the picture. i pulled her pic up on the laptop and she tried to convince me it was her. even attempted to pull the same face as the photo which i thought was kinda hilarious.

i decided to still bust a nut in her regardless. quoted me 4000 rmb if i wanted fs! again i couldn't be bothered getting into a fight about things so i countered with 1000 and she agreed on 1500 promising 3 hours and was "not cheating me". i had now realised letting her in the room was a bad call but i can't really afford a scene in this hotel and the amount of money was immaterial (despite knowing i was being shafted on price).

i then proceeded to receive the most ordinary cbj and cowgirl i have had in a long time. i think we have all been there when you realise a session is so poor there is no point fighting it and all you can do is move on to bigger and better things. as soon as i blew my wad she jumped up, very sexily hocked up something nasty in my basin and got changed. i asked where she was going as we were no more than 30 mins into the booking. her response was she needed to meet someone and she will get her friend,"baby c"! no less. to come and see me soon and she "promise i not cheat you". at this point i was so tired and dis-interested i slung her 100 for her "taxi money" and told her to leave. i then decided to take a nap and replan my assault for later in the evening.

i woke up around 11pm and grabbed some fast food from a global chain (this is an important detail!). then grabbed a taxi and showed the driver a flash card for manhattan. driver nodded his head and within 15 minutes he was dropping me off at the door. this is where things started to slowly improve. i was surprised in general how small the place was but it was definitely busy with a lot more women than men. i was also surprised how expensive drinks are and the amount of smoking inside (i am not hugely anti smoking but i hate the stench that gets into your clothes).

within 90 seconds a 5 out of 10 chinese woman who i would estimate 30 years old grabbed my hand and started rubbing my crotch. i was wary as i had read this was a viable pickpocket technique so i moved on. went to the bar and grabbed a brewskie and started to survey the action. i pulled up a stool towards the back wall of the club and noticed a lot of solo western looking males and a couple of groups of asian men (4-6 guys) who seemed more interested in just messing around and drinking with the girls. all looked pretty much as i expected and reminded me of clubs in orchid towers in singapore.

before i knew it the same 5/10 chinese woman approached me again and asked for a drink of water. which i bought her as i am happy to be friendly in most cases. i was pretty surprised it was 40 rmb for a water but obviously most guys in there are happy to spend the cash. i then had a good look at this woman and asked where she was from. claimed to be from the province closest west of shanghai and spoke pretty solid english. imeadiately said she wanted to stay the night with me and i asked how much out of curiosity. came back with 2500 to which i just nodded for now as i had no interest. i also noticed she was dressed in tracksuit pants and trainers which i thought was kind of a turn off. also no chance i would get her past the desk in my hotel. in the meantime i had spotted a few very nice looking 8/10s but they were all chatting with other guys.

after enjoying the scenery for about 45 minutes while this woman draped herself all over me i told her i had to go to the bathroom and wait by the door for me. i then took a very long leak and when i returned to my seat she was no longer there. what do you guys generally do in this situation? i. e. how do you shut down a woman you aren't interested in staying with? i guess i could have been more direct but she was very persistent.

when i returned i then noticed a 7/10 super small and tight spinner who didn't look chinese to me. regardless i caught her eye and she started dancing in front of me. sure enough turned out she arrived from vietnam that night and introduced me to her friend who was a bit more of a 6/10. however they both had ok english and were much more fun to play around with. just when we were starting to get friendly my old chinese boiler turned up ranting at me in chinese. the viet girls spoke some chinese and told me that i owed her $ for the dick rubs she was giving me. i laughed and gave her 200 for her trouble. she said if i buy her a water as well she will leave. i bought her 2 bottles for good measure and asked the bus boy / waiter to tell her to go away which he did effectively for 100 rmb tip.

i then asked the hotter viet what my chances were for a long time. she said no problem but would prefer if her friend came along. i was relaxed about it and had some good experiences with ffm in other countries so said i would give them 3500 total for both of them if we left now and we went to their place (no chance they were getting past my reception desk. 2am and they were very clearly hookers based on their appearance / clothes).

they agreed and we grabbed a taxi for another 15 minutes away from my hotel geographically. ended up in a very average apartment block that was about 30 stories high. their apartment was extremely modest with nothing but a kitchenette, two rock hard mattresses on the floor and a dodgey toilet. regardless i was ok with it as i have done the deed in worse and they were good fun up until this point.

long story short i pretty much had everything from bbbj, every position and they switched over pretty regularly. the spinner was clearly more into it and much more experienced but that was ok as i didn't mind the shy one as she was a bit more authentic in her moans and groans etc. the only downside was they didn't interact with each other but that is a rarity in most cases and i have only ever seen that where i explicitly paid for it with western girls back home.

i was pretty knackered tired so i slept there until about 11am at which time i woke up and felt sick as a dog (guts, head, body, limbs, back pain). i destroyed their toilet and decided to rest up a bit more to see if it passed. at this point they gave me another round with all the trimmings which was a nice touch. seemed like they were keen to keep me primed for future sessions which i am ok with. about 1pm i told them i needed to head back to the hotel as i was feeling terrible all over. i got their numbers and told them i would be in touch.

arrived back at the hotel and tried to sleep some more. by about 6pm i was vomiting profusely and got a little worried when i was seeing a lot of blood in the basin. as i now write this 24 hours later i am feeling a little bit better but don't want to move too far from the hotel as i am not sure if i can hold the lunch i had today. i typically don't have problems with food anywhere in asia but something has definitely put me down for the count which i am pretty annoyed about.

i am pretty interested to hear what you guys suggest i should attempt to do tonight. i would like to try manhattan again but i am worried i will see the same girls again and i really want to keep things dynamic and not go for the same girls too often. there were so many others there i would have been interested in staying long time with. how do you avoid running in to the same girls each night? they admitted they are here for 1 month and the apartment belongs to their "boss". they plan on hitting manhattan every night for the whole month.

i think my next plan should be a sauna as i am still feeling pretty average. although i have been emailing a private escort "kitty" back and forth from the same site who looks pretty hot. i however fear that i will be shafted the same as my first experience.

can anyone suggest a good sauna somewhere close-ish to the peninsuala? ba li ya club and tang dynasty get good write ups by shanghai nightlife but not sure if i want to be in the taxi too long with dodgey stomach.

regardless i will most likely do something tonight and appreciate any comments, feedback or suggestions!

SamCan
01-06-14, 11:23
Poker Broker,

Stop throwing money at your problems. You are'nt necessarilly spending too much for your girls but you are on the tips. Just tell them to go away or maybe later. Your first Chinese girl did not deserve a tip or water. I can't tell you how many dick rubs and bare breast (and sometimes bare ass if they wear a skirt) feels I have gotten at Manhattans only to turn them away.

99% of the girls are not offended, they just want to move on to their next mark. They appreciate not wasting their time. I have never seen a girl make a scene in Manhattans. I am not saying it doesn't happen. If it does it is rare.

Another issue at Manhattan's is after you set a price with a girl, you usually never pay less. Better to tell them you pay more if they are "good to you". Thea girls talk so they will all know what you paid. walk 2 blocks south to Judy's which is right on Nanjing lu. across from the Portman but 2-3 blocks west ( i think west). there is a little less talent there than Manhattan's but also fun. It is probably a 5-10 min walk from Manhattans.

I have been told that if you wait until 3:30 or 4:00 the girls get nervous they will not bring someone home and prices get cheap. Of course availability of beautys is less and i have never wanted to wait that long for a couple bucks. i always wanted to go out for a second " discount round" but never tried.


Good luck, play safe.

Poker Broker
01-06-14, 11:54
Poker Broker,

Stop throwing money at your problems. You are'nt necessarilly spending too much for your girls but you are on the tips. Just tell them to go away or maybe later. Your first Chinese girl did not deserve a tip or water. I can't tell you how many dick rubs and bare breast (and sometimes bare ass if they wear a skirt) feels I have gotten at Manhattans only to turn them away.

99% of the girls are not offended, they just want to move on to their next mark. They appreciate not wasting their time. I have never seen a girl make a scene in Manhattans. I am not saying it doesn't happen. If it does it is rare.

Another issue at Manhattan's is after you set a price with a girl, you usually never pay less. Better to tell them you pay more if they are "good to you". Thea girls talk so they will all know what you paid. Walk 2 blocks south to Judy's which is right on Nanjing lu. Across from the Portman but 2-3 blocks west (I think west). There is a little less talent there than Manhattan's but also fun. It is probably a 5-10 min walk from Manhattans.

I have been told that if you wait until 3:30 or 4:00 the girls get nervous they will not bring someone home and prices get cheap. Of course availability of beautys is less and I have never wanted to wait that long for a couple bucks. I always wanted to go out for a second " discount round" but never tried.

Good luck, play safe.Thanks. Appreciate the advice. I am definitely going to plan my actions a little more carefully next time around. I always tend to be a bit loose on my first run in a new country as it is all a bit exciting first time round. I didn't mention in my original post I got the "water bottle" girl down to 1000 LT pretty quickly so shows there is clearly plenty of room to move.

I like the 4am strategy as it has worked well for me in the past a Beach and other places in Malaysia. However my major constraint at the moment is the hotel reception which I can see being awkward depending on the time and look of the girl. Also if I bring back two that is going to cause even more suspicion no doubt.

Peter Christo
01-06-14, 15:02
IMHO, the FFM experience described above is pretty accurate. Worst case: I have even been in situations with one girl waiting in the bathroom until I finish the first one and then switching places. It is never like anything you see in the porn movies.

The disinfecting and condom changing kills the mood for me. I do understand their POV. For them, it is the same as BBFS.

All that said, you can try to make the best of it. Letting one girl pick the second is sound advice. Girls that have experience working together provide better service. What I usually do is focus on one girl I want to stick it in and use the second girl as a supplement to play around with like a starter and the main course.

Just my POV.

OAHI must have been lucky over the years with threesomes from Thailand to China to Australia.

There are ways of fucking 2 women at once.

My most recent experience was in Wenzhou. 5 months ago, when my mates took 3 hours to organise a threesome for me. Total cost to my mates 1,000rmb.

To my delight they were absolute stunners who were trying to outdo themselves.

They were trying to see who could do the:

- best deep throat.

- the longest gag.

- the longest fuck pounding.

These girls never left my cock for an hour. Having 2 girls suck your cock who really enjoy it is something.

Double DATY required some work but can be done.

They were happy to have me fuck one girl while I was almost fisting the other and then swaps.

Just amazing stuff.

Alas contacting them since has been unsuccessful since but I will keep trying.

Persian Fellow
01-06-14, 17:02
Well I arrived Saturday morning and settled into the Peninsula hotel quickly. .Hi Poker Broker,

Sent you a PM.

SamCan
01-07-14, 02:01
Thanks. Appreciate the advice. I am definitely going to plan my actions a little more carefully next time around. I always tend to be a bit loose on my first run in a new country as it is all a bit exciting first time round. I didn't mention in my original post I got the "water bottle" girl down to 1000 LT pretty quickly so shows there is clearly plenty of room to move.

I like the 4am strategy as it has worked well for me in the past a Beach and other places in Malaysia. However my major constraint at the moment is the hotel reception which I can see being awkward depending on the time and look of the girl. Also if I bring back two that is going to cause even more suspicion no doubt.All it means is you have to sign the girl in. Chinese law states guest must be registerred. The girls at Manhattan's understand this and have an I'd at the ready.

I have signed a girl into the Hilton Shanghai many times. It is no more painful than checking in yourself. Don't worry about it.

I don't know if there is an issue with signing in two girls. Maybe someone else can say.

I brought a massage girl to my room once. The Hilton told me I could not check her in. They said she was already checked into another room. If they checked the same girl in twice, they would have to call the PO PO. So even when there was an opportunity to get in trouble they warned me as they did not want the issue either.

Tomcruz
01-07-14, 10:03
Hey all,

I'm a follower of this post, thanks to all for your detailed reports! Props to SamCan for the constant relevant info, thank you. I thought it best to contribute something so here goes:

I'm a frequent business traveler to SH, have gone to various spas and soapy joints with great experiences. HaiLang / Waves is a sure-shot, I always have a good experience there. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a big fan of prostate massage, which they don't do at Waves, but which I've gotten many times at the little place on 484 Xikang Lu, until, to my dismay, they shut down about 2 months ago. So I went online looking for prostate massage in shanghai and came up with a bunch of outcall services. One had a good website with a great description of prostate massage, so I thought hey, that's exactly what I'm looking for. It's called Red Shanghai Massage. 137-6113-2926, I call the number, and go into detail of what I'm looking for: 90 minute massage, body-to-body, with prostate rub and HJ. The lady confirms all, in decent English so I knew she understood. Price is 1000+100 taxi money. I know that's a lot from reading this forum. But Waves is 900 + my taxi money (and no prostate, and I don't do the full service part) , I don't know any spas that for sure do this, and my hotel is legit (owned by the gov't I think) so I don't want to bring back a girl from Manhattan's late at night.

Anyway, girl shows up, extremely confused and paranoid. She's like 20, 8/10, but the worst attitude ever. She spends 2-3 minutes texting as soon as she gets in, I figure OK, she's being safe, that's cool. She says:

Girl: "just massage?"

Me: "Massage and prostate. 90 minutes."

"Just massage 800. No HJ, and with clothes."

"No, I confirmed with lady no clothes, prostate. 90 minutes"

"This much more money! You give me 1500 and taxi money OK la!"

So I show her the website, it's open on my computer, show her prostate massage is 1000, I will pay 1100 total, or she can leave right now. She final agrees, with this sour look and roll of her eyes. This is like a 15 minute process. So we undress, she leaves her bottoms on, didn't want to keep arguing with her so OK. Gives me the weakest massage ever, stopping every 2 minutes to either take a call, make a call, or send / receive text. After 10 minutes I'm like OK, U-turn off your phone, call your friend later. She starts telling me this whole thing in broken English (at best) about a problem with her bank, like I give a shit. I'm like let's just continue. So after the first 10 minutes, every 3 minutes she asks if she can start prostate massage. Like no ST, nothing to get me in the mood. I tell her no, keep going, she rolls her eyes, and goes another 3 minutes. Finally she just rips open a condom, puts it on her finger to start the prostate massage. She has clearly never done this before. Tries to ram her finger with condom up my bum with no lube, I tell her to use lube, which I provide. I have to show her exactly what to do, and no sensual interaction whatsoever. She goes "you like man?" I say no, I only like lady."Then why you like this?" Most awkward exchange ever. I have her go on for like 10 minutes, and she's had enough. She's still fielding calls and texts every couple of minutes.

So I turn over, I want to feel her body, and she's like all skittish about it. But we find a medium, like PG-13 rated (but nude). Starts the HJ, and I'm hard but taking my sweet ass time. She keeps like rolling her eyes every couple of minutes as her hands get tired. Finally after like 10 minutes I decide alright, F-it, and go.

"You finished?"

"Yea."

"OK"

She cleans herself up, puts on her clothes, goes "Good Luck" and walks out.

15 minutes arguing + 20 minute massage + 10 minute HJ = 45 minutes total, in and out.

By far the worst mongering experience I've ever had. But it could be worse, I could have gotten scammed, sorry for all you out there who have experienced that and thanks for helping me avoid it. Now I've blown my budget, heading home in a few days. Lesson learned. Thought I'd share the above with the crew here, sorry so lengthy, but thanks for reading my rant!

Safe travels everyone.

Poker Broker
01-07-14, 19:15
i am still feeling a little shabby from whatever gut bug i have contracted so i was tossing up taking a run at my first sauna or spinning the roulette wheel on another outcall escort. i decided on the latter due to how i was feeling and started to research online a bit more carefully. i also planned my negotiation more stringently given the last result and aimed to set the price up front to avoid any problems.

i had already had a few texts back from "kitty" on my previous attempt so thought i would try her again. i could see she has some good "reviews" on a few sites but i now realise reviews aren't worth much if anything at all. regardless i baited a response from her with the offer of overnight at the quoted rate of 3500 straight up and i received a speedy reply in good english.

i explained pretty clearly in the back and forths that if anything other than the photo turns up at my hotel i will be sending her back from where she came. i got a quick text back saying "ok. see you soon". this left me underwhelmed but i thought fuck it. i will take the advice i have been given and tell her to knick off if she is no good. as an interesting aside, about this time my hotel landline rang and it was the incall girl i had from my first night. "hello darling. i come back and give you another massage". the gall! i told her no thanks and hung up. clearly they felt they had found their mark and would continue to exploit it!

then my phone rang again at which point i was ready to unleash a tirade but it was kitty calling to tell me she will be 30-45 minutes as it was raining outside and taxis were slow / hard to come by. i figured this wasn't a terrible sign and told her to take her time. about 45 minutes later my phone rang again and she told me she was pulling up at the hotel and asked if she could get to my room without a key. i told her that i would meet her downstairs and prepared to sign her in if i had to. luckily for me by the time the lift door opened she was standing in front of me and stepped straight in.

i was genuinely torn at this point as if i had to bet my life on it i would say she wasn't the girl in the pic. however i would still say she was a solid 8/10 and maybe even a touch higher. on second inspection of the photo i could be wrong as clearly pictures can be deceiving, however i was more than happy with the result in terms of looks. kitty was immediately friendly and playful in the elevator and she had made quite an effort to look sexy without looking like an obvious working girl. another good sign in my books so i was feeling positive thus far.

upon arriving in the room she seemed a little shy so i figured get her at ease quickly and handed her the agreed amount of cash. i noticed she then quickly sent a text and seemed to settle down a little more and we chatted on the bed for 15 mins or so. english was good and we could easily hold a basic conversation and watched a little bit of tv. kitty then offered a massage which i agreed and she stripped naked to a very small, tight and impressive body.

at this point i had decided i wanted to probably keep her on the boil for the remainder of my stay should i come up empty on remaining nights. typically on those i figure worth keeping as a semi-regular i tend to be a bit less selfish in the sack. in that vain i went down on her for a solid 15 minutes until she undeniably came and also soaked the sheets pretty handsomely. at this point i felt her warm up a whole lot more and she proceeded to give a pretty good cbj. ideally we are all looking for a bbbj but i let it slide as i was far more interested in fucking her anyway. after about 5 minutes when then moved through a wide range of positions and it was an excellent unrushed gfe session. right into it all the way through and i will be definitely looking for a repeat.

this is where i was pleasantly surprised and perhaps she was smart enough to try and build some rapport of her own. she said she had work at 630am in the morning and would stay all night and go straight to work or alternatively give me back half the cash and leave now. i was pretty happy to let her go as i was knackered myself and knew i had done all i needed to do to lock in something in the future at reasonable rates and service.

we messed around and chatted a bit more and she has only just left the room. all in all a good experience and one i was starting to worry i may not find here in shanghai. i have always typically had really strong relationships with thai and viet girls in a mongering sense. don't get me wrong. i know they are all working girls and professionals deep down, but i was really struggling to find a good connection with anything thus far and you get the sense everyone is looking to scam you at every opportunity in this city.

regardless kitty may have changed my opinion on this in the short term and i will likely end up seeing her again during this trip.

hopefully hit a sauna tomorrow and report back.

SamCan
01-08-14, 01:42
Hey Tomcruz,

The bad reports are good to read as well as the good ones! It let's us know Shanghai is not always easy. I used to get a good prostate massage from #10 at 1808 bejing lu. #18 on chanping lu / shaanxi lu also can help you out in this regard. Both are excellent. I hear 18 is not around however.

Keep the reports coming, I look forward to my next trip to Shanghai some more tips from you!

SamCan, Canyou?

Walter Mitty
01-08-14, 05:34
Just a quick note. I've been using this MP Hai Shang Yuan for a couple of months now. Have had some good times and occasionally a mediocre massage too (that's you #2).

When I left the other day the mammasan tries to tell me something in English. All I got was closing doors and 9. I tried to get some clarity but it seems like something about shutting up the business maybe on the 9th. Or the 9th month?

Anyone got any ideas.

Gutted to see that my other go too MP jinlin has closed. Where to now? I'll have to try some of the other suggestions around here. Thanks for the contributions chaps.

WM

Masslin
01-08-14, 07:06
Can anyone suggest a good Sauna somewhere close-ish to The Peninsuala? Ba Li Ya Club and Tang Dynasty get good write ups by Shanghai Nightlife but not sure if I want to be in the taxi too long with dodgey stomach.

Regardless I will most likely do something tonight and appreciate any comments, feedback or suggestions!633 Top Sauna Club is about 4. 2km to The Peninsula.

Address: 6 / F, Xuebao Mall, No. 633, Huaihai Middle Road, Huangpu District

Yuquan Club former name Feng Ding Yuan Club is about 2. 9km to The Peninsula.

Address: 6F Nanjing Lu 580, Xuhui District.

Masslin
01-08-14, 08:05
Hey all,

I'm a frequent business traveler to SH, have gone to various spas and soapy joints with great experiences. HaiLang / Waves is a sure-shot, I always have a good experience there. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a big fan of prostate massage, which they don't do at Waves, but which I've gotten many times at the little place on 484 Xikang Lu, until, to my dismay, they shut down about 2 months ago. So I went online looking for prostate massage in shanghai and came up with a bunch of outcall services.Sorry for the news about 484 Xikang Lu, next time maybe you can try the chain store:Spring Massage. They also provide the prostate massage.

Marty47
01-08-14, 15:50
i got to tell you. you are messing up the prices in sh. you are paying to much for a little fun.

just contact cathy-a lot less and a lot more fun!


i am still feeling a little shabby from whatever gut bug i have contracted so i was tossing up taking a run at my first sauna or spinning the roulette wheel on another outcall escort. i decided on the latter due to how i was feeling and started to research online a bit more carefully. i also planned my negotiation more stringently given the last result and aimed to set the price up front to avoid any problems.

i had already had a few texts back from "kitty" on my previous attempt so thought i would try her again. i could see she has some good "reviews" on a few sites but i now realise reviews aren't worth much if anything at all. regardless i baited a response from her with the offer of overnight at the quoted rate of 3500 straight up and i received a speedy reply in good english.

i explained pretty clearly in the back and forths that if anything other than the photo turns up at my hotel i will be sending her back from where she came. i got a quick text back saying "ok. see you soon". this left me underwhelmed but i thought fuck it. i will take the advice i have been given and tell her to knick off if she is no good. as an interesting aside, about this time my hotel landline rang and it was the incall girl i had from my first night."hello darling. i come back and give you another massage". the gall! i told her no thanks and hung up. clearly they felt they had found their mark and would continue to exploit it!

then my phone rang again at which point i was ready to unleash a tirade but it was kitty calling to tell me she will be 30-45 minutes as it was raining outside and taxis were slow / hard to come by. i figured this wasn't a terrible sign and told her to take her time. about 45 minutes later my phone rang again and she told me she was pulling up at the hotel and asked if she could get to my room without a key. i told her that i would meet her downstairs and prepared to sign her in if i had to. luckily for me by the time the lift door opened she was standing in front of me and stepped straight in.

i was genuinely torn at this point as if i had to bet my life on it i would say she wasn't the girl in the pic. however i would still say she was a solid 8/10 and maybe even a touch higher. on second inspection of the photo i could be wrong as clearly pictures can be deceiving, however i was more than happy with the result in terms of looks. kitty was immediately friendly and playful in the elevator and she had made quite an effort to look sexy without looking like an obvious working girl. another good sign in my books so i was feeling positive thus far.

upon arriving in the room she seemed a little shy so i figured get her at ease quickly and handed her the agreed amount of cash. i noticed she then quickly sent a text and seemed to settle down a little more and we chatted on the bed for 15 mins or so. english was good and we could easily hold a basic conversation and watched a little bit of tv. kitty then offered a massage which i agreed and she stripped naked to a very small, tight and impressive body.

at this point i had decided i wanted to probably keep her on the boil for the remainder of my stay should i come up empty on remaining nights. typically on those i figure worth keeping as a semi-regular i tend to be a bit less selfish in the sack. in that vain i went down on her for a solid 15 minutes until she undeniably came and also soaked the sheets pretty handsomely. at this point i felt her warm up a whole lot more and she proceeded to give a pretty good cbj. ideally we are all looking for a bbbj but i let it slide as i was far more interested in fucking her anyway. after about 5 minutes when then moved through a wide range of positions and it was an excellent unrushed gfe session. right into it all the way through and i will be definitely looking for a repeat.

this is where i was pleasantly surprised and perhaps she was smart enough to try and build some rapport of her own. she said she had work at 630am in the morning and would stay all night and go straight to work or alternatively give me back half the cash and leave now. i was pretty happy to let her go as i was knackered myself and knew i had done all i needed to do to lock in something in the future at reasonable rates and service.

we messed around and chatted a bit more and she has only just left the room. all in all a good experience and one i was starting to worry i may not find here in shanghai. i have always typically had really strong relationships with thai and viet girls in a mongering sense. don't get me wrong. i know they are all working girls and professionals deep down, but i was really struggling to find a good connection with anything thus far and you get the sense everyone is looking to scam you at every opportunity in this city.

regardless kitty may have changed my opinion on this in the short term and i will likely end up seeing her again during this trip.

hopefully hit a sauna tomorrow and report back.

SamCan
01-09-14, 01:38
I got to tell you. You are messing up the prices in SH. You are paying to much for a little fun.

Just contact Cathy-a lot less and a LOT MORE FUN!Seriously!

Persian Fellow
01-09-14, 17:23
.

i had already had a few texts back from "kitty" on my previous attempt so thought i would try her again. i could see she has some good "reviews" on a few sites but i now realise reviews aren't worth much if anything at all. regardless i baited a response from her with the offer of overnight at the quoted rate of 3500 straight up and i received a speedy reply in good english.

-hi poker broker,

very interesting reports.

hope you are better now.

could you please send me contacts, sites and info about kitty and baby c (private message of course).

you can also try malong meishi pub. 255 tongren road jing'an.

thanks

BionicMan
01-09-14, 19:24
I got to tell you. You are messing up the prices in SH. You are paying to much for a little fun.

Just contact Cathy-a lot less and a LOT MORE FUN!Surely he is overpaying and he knows that. Probably the emotion and the little head taking the lead. But having said that he is not certainly messing up the prices in Shangai. I am sure at that very same moments there were probably another 50 or 100 guys spreaded within Shangai city limits pairing the same or more, maybe in a KTV, maybe in an upscale soapie, maybe with a freelancer picked up from the street opposite the hotel, maybe a supposedly uno- girl, and so on and so on.

Surely those expensive girls are not for everyone but let it be.

Correct to say he has overpaid, but I can't see how few punters can mess up prices in SH. She is not the only provider in town kicking away the guys willing to pay less. For everyone like her, there are maybe 50 ready to go for for much less.

Do we read in an imaginary Shangai WG forum that the girl doing LT. For 500 are spoiling the provider market?

Levitian
01-10-14, 00:46
Agree totally.

Lev


Surely he is overpaying and he knows that. Probably the emotion and the little head taking the lead. But having said that he is not certainly messing up the prices in Shangai. I am sure at that very same moments there were probably another 50 or 100 guys spreaded within Shangai city limits pairing the same or more, maybe in a KTV, maybe in an upscale soapie, maybe with a freelancer picked up from the street opposite the hotel, maybe a supposedly uno- girl, and so on and so on.

Surely those expensive girls are not for everyone but let it be.

Correct to say he has overpaid, but I can't see how few punters can mess up prices in SH. She is not the only provider in town kicking away the guys willing to pay less. For everyone like her, there are maybe 50 ready to go for for much less.

Do we read in an imaginary Shangai WG forum that the girl doing LT. For 500 are spoiling the provider market?

Anaximander
01-10-14, 04:59
Great work everyone, the Shanghai forum has become pretty hot of late!

I arrived couple days ago and haven't had time for mongering yet. But hope to make up for it over the next week!

I've got couple questions:

1. I'd like to take out my ISG subscription, so I can send / receive PMs and hopefuly hook up with some like-minded guys here, but I don't want to pay for it with my regular credit card so it can't be traced to me. Does anyone know if you can buy those stored value credit cards in China, and if so, would there be any issue paying for my ISG subs with one?

2. I was interested in taking a look at Cathy, however her site is down. Can anyone shed any light?

Happy mongering!

AX

Persian Fellow
01-10-14, 15:18
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I had already had a few texts back from "Kitty" on my previous attempt so thought I would try her again.Poker Broker,

Thanks for the PM but I am interested in Kitty and where did you find her?

Zapata's. 5 Hengshan Road Xuhui, has good reports as well and it is in walking distance to Hengshan Road Station of line 1.

From Hengshan Road Station 500 meters on Hengshan Road to North East.

StayCurious
01-12-14, 06:54
Hi all,

Been reading the forum for the past couple of months and picked up some valuable tips. Thought it time to start sharing some of my experiences and little things I have found.

BBS.

From the first day I arrived in Shanghai I had spotted them, as within my area there is around 10, around Xincun Road (line 7).

From the subway a 2 minutes walk to Yijun Road between Shuangshan Road and Ansai Road, there are 7 BBS along this small stretch of road with girls ranging from 6 to a good more then a few 9's.

The first one I checked out was before I came across ISG was 300 RMB, since going though pages and pages of valuable info, the last of time I only been payed 200 RMB, when I walked in I was quoted 300 but replied with 150 which they refused so I went to walk out when she counted with 200, the standard HJ wasn't working so slipped her and extra 50 and received a semi good BBBJ.

As mentioned this little strip has 7 shops in the area of 200 metres, plus if you like to look around there is another 5 in adjacent streets.

During the day the street is pretty busy but from around 9:30pm it dies down, but late night you will always find a few Chinese guys walking around all with the same thing on there mind.

Cheers for reading and stay curios

JohnDoe2121
01-13-14, 00:51
Hey guys,

I was wondering are there places that do foot massages that have happy endings? I really like foot massages and a lot of places body massages could be half assed and cost way more. Just wondering.

Sky Ryder
01-13-14, 07:55
I hadn't been to Manhattan in quite a while, but the last month I had a couple of opportunities to overnight in Shanghai, so thought I would take the plunge.

I still remember the days of the old club on Tongren Lu, but those fun filled nights are long gone. What was then a largely Filipina and Thai population is now almost all Viet and even a few Chinese ladies, with a small number of So. Amer and Indo's thrown in for something different.

I've gotten lucky with the Viet girls for the most part. I admit that I tend to stay away from the stunners as they always have a lot of suitors, and know that they can get a client almost any night. I try to find the fairly new arrivals, and the ones that suit my "look", but aren't always the superstars. As a rule I find the ones that are near or just over the 30 year old range tend to give me the best "bang for the yuan" if you will. My two recent visits resulted in one Hanoi lady, her name is Angela, a taller Viet about 28 years old and a lot more curvy than the normal Viet and also Le Moon, a nice Malay find with a great rack and nice round ass. She was from KL and also near 30 I would assume. They both should be around for another couple of weeks, before the visa expires.

They both were open to anal, and I did sample a little bit. Not an everyday event for me, but was a nice diversion for a change. I didn't complete the session this way, as I had other desires as well.

They started asking about 1500, but I offered 800 for short time and a little extra for the anal efforts. I got digits from them both and actually had a repeat later in the week from the Malay gal. I know they would have stayed the night for 1200, maybe less without the backdoor included.

I do miss the days of the Pinay's and had a line on a couple of them at Judy's Too last summer, but haven't seen anything worthwhile at Judy's recently.

The best thing about Manhattan's is that you can get something that is not a mainland gal, but won't break the bank. They Russian girls at Bar Rouge are hot, but mercenary as hell. And well, I don't like them that much.

I see that a few guys are still scoring a Zapatas, I haven't gotten lucky there in two years or more.

Just a quick update from my viewpoint.

Masslin
01-13-14, 09:03
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