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Tazman099
05-20-16, 17:08
Steven does a good job. I personally understand why no negative reviews are allowed by Steven. Too many douses who don't understand the customs or how things work will get upset and write a bad review about being treated poorly. But in reality it was their fault, not the provider. So I get it. Not sure what a good solution would be, as sometimes negative reviews could be useful, but I don't know how to avoid the problem I described (ignorant people).

Wow, Pine Club is open again? Is it back to its former glory? I remember it used to be one of the most amazing places, but just super far away. Wondering what you guys think are the best options nowadays.I haven't been there since it reopened, but I believe the prices have gone up - 1300 should be the minimum. As all the places I know well enough to recommend are in that area (I live less than a block from the pine club), don't think my recommendations will be very helpful to you.

Tazman099
05-20-16, 17:18
I guess that's the name it should go by. It's the new place down the street from 45 mansion (same owner). Finally got there tonight.

Good:

Brand new. Just opened in November and with the shutdown, it's probably only been open for 2 months.

120 girls, 60 rooms.

Nice lounge area.

Bad:

Expensive! Prices start at 1200.

Busy. Ok, I went on a Friday night, but fuck, I had to wait to pay!

Poor maintenance. Even though it's brand new, the hose for the shower had plastic wrapped around it to keep it from spraying and the bed sheets were stained.

Will I go there again, probably not. At least not as long as my contact is also booking 45 mansion. He clearly told me no waiting there at all (but only 40 girls).

Taz.

NorthSouth
05-20-16, 18:03
My second trip to Spa El Cheapo was very disappointing. Only 4 girls there. The girl I picked was uninterested and just gone through the motion. So, cheap but no thrill.

The Guy
05-21-16, 00:21
Steven does a good job. I personally understand why no negative reviews are allowed by Steven. Too many douses who don't understand the customs or how things work will get upset and write a bad review about being treated poorly. But in reality it was their fault, not the provider. So I get it. Not sure what a good solution would be, as sometimes negative reviews could be useful, but I don't know how to avoid the problem I described (ignorant people).

Wow, Pine Club is open again? Is it back to its former glory? I remember it used to be one of the most amazing places, but just super far away. Wondering what you guys think are the best options nowadays.I believe consumers are smart enough to assess both positive and negative reviews. Negative reviews are an important incentive for girls to take it up a notch. Since they know Steven cuts most negative reviews, girls realize they can get away with mediocre service. As I said, I immensely admire Steven and am happy to pay him my sng fee, but he makes a poor choice by manipulating the reviews.

SamCan
05-21-16, 02:58
I believe consumers are smart enough to assess both positive and negative reviews. Negative reviews are an important incentive for girls to take it up a notch. Since they know Steven cuts most negative reviews, girls realize they can get away with mediocre service. As I said, I immensely admire Steven and am happy to pay him my sng fee, but he makes a poor choice by manipulating the reviews.If you read his site, you will see that one bad review cuts girls business by 80%. In a business where YMMV, it is a little unfair if some guy doesn't get the ride of a lifetime even though he is fat, has BO and bad breath. My point is one bad review may not be relevant. I also must say there are bad reviews. They aren't horrible but I recall a review about a girl that thought she was shorted and got hotel to bring her back up to get her extra 100 rmb. (it was a mistake between the girl and the person booking. The guy just gave what he was supposed to.). This was a bad review. There was also other reviews that talked about a girl not being a great lay. The mediocre reviews are there you just have to read them. I do know they are not horrible but there are bad ones.

SAM.

Uncle Volodya
05-21-16, 07:07
Lev mate,

I am not the home delivery person or incall or escort kinda guy doesn't get me hard and horny. I like go drink relax enjoy pick and choose but surely this time I will try sing or rain or Helen if the women are hot and ready for an overnighter may be the lady in tow can take me to a good Chinese nightclub where we can find hot women have done this a lot in BKK and SG and HKK and doing now in Dubai.

Cheers,

AlexHI Alex!

I think you will really like Manhattan. Wall to wall FLs. Mostly from Vietnam. There are some real stunners here too.

Some of the girls are really direct and will immediately ask to go back to the room.

Others, however, will wait to get a rapport going before popping the question. And the meantime you can dance, flirt and even make out with them.

Prices are pretty steep / But I know you are not the kind of guy to sweat the money if you can have an amazing time.

Judy's is another option and is close by. However, I think prettier girls can be found at Manhattan.

Both clubs are walking distance from each other (in the Jiag'an Temple area) so you can check out both easily in one evening out.

PS: Sorry to be redundant. I just saw the post where you mention Manhattan and Judy's.

Ther are plenty of upscale nigh clubs in the Bund. Maybe try your luck there? Also I ws able to set up a couple of dates with regular girls on Wechat. But it was pretty slow going with those girls so I just went to Manhattans instead.

Alex7J
05-21-16, 08:21
HI Alex!

I think you will really like Manhattan. Wall to wall FLs. Mostly from Vietnam. There are some real stunners here too.

Some of the girls are really direct and will immediately ask to go back to the room.

Others, however, will wait to get a rapport going before popping the question. And the meantime you can dance, flirt and even make out with them.

Prices are pretty steep / But I know you are not the kind of guy to sweat the money if you can have an amazing time.

Judy's is another option and is close by. However, I think prettier girls can be found at Manhattan.

Both clubs are walking distance from each other (in the Jiag'an Temple area) so you can check out both easily in one evening out.

PS: Sorry to be redundant. I just saw the post where you mention Manhattan and Judy's.

Ther are plenty of upscale nigh clubs in the Bund. Maybe try your luck there? Also I ws able to set up a couple of dates with regular girls on Wechat. But it was pretty slow going with those girls so I just went to Manhattans instead.Uncle V,

It seems there is some karma between us, we keep on banging into each other in diff forums. I've tried Manhatten when I used to live in Sng 6 year ago they used to call me Jesus then I was the same then I am the same now must have fucked each and every Viet from there Judy was a slow place then but the BBQ outside Judy's was better then Manhatten and the lb's were a chilled out lot to talk to, I've had a lot of fun in shanghai used to live in bodi it was newly built in the family suite and travel every night around 12 to the bund to bar Rouge or some other farang bar I forgot the name, then someone told me Hollywood in Xintiandi tried that for a couple of nights fucked 2 or 3 Chinese babes but no fun in sex then this club I forgot mint or m2 near some park on both the sides of park were these clubs but again no success then got hooked to Manhatten as I am now hooked to Moscow in Dubai where ever I used to go in shanghai on any night at 3 am I had to land in Manhatten every night as I am a WG myself, used to sit and chat with then Viets, there were a few Thais there also, occasional Mongolians and once in a week Russians used to come but that was rare, have eaten in the outside BBQ a lot with Viets in the cold months of November to February with sometimes raining non-stop and me drinking and eating used to be a corona drinker then and the bar boy's used to bring my drink outside near the cart fucking crazy I was.

Women used to come to my home for food and I still used to pay them 700-1000 and to eat the breakfast at Bodi and enjoy the facilities in my room, I have till date never gone in Bodi's bar or enjoyed the breakfast but Viet women in my room always had that crazy me. Manhatten was my base in shanghai of my 1 year stint in shanghai, I have made out in the mens washroom, in the alley which leads to the bathroom, danced on the bar and I used to sit on the bar and drink many times I was young and crazy then I am old and less crazy now.

But we have to meet to try the crazy times again.

Cheers to you mate,

Alex

The Guy
05-21-16, 15:09
If you read his site, you will see that one bad review cuts girls business by 80%. In a business where YMMV, it is a little unfair if some guy doesn't get the ride of a lifetime even though he is fat, has BO and bad breath. My point is one bad review may not be relevant. I also must say there are bad reviews. They aren't horrible but I recall a review about a girl that thought she was shorted and got hotel to bring her back up to get her extra 100 rmb. (it was a mistake between the girl and the person booking. The guy just gave what he was supposed to.). This was a bad review. There was also other reviews that talked about a girl not being a great lay. The mediocre reviews are there you just have to read them. I do know they are not horrible but there are bad ones.

SAM.I don't believe one bad review will cut a girl's business by 80 percent. I can speak from my own experience. I submitted a somewhat mixed review that sng refused to publish. I felt I was quite fair but included information that a future client should be aware of. After that experience, I continued to subscribe to Sng but have no longer used its escorts (I still rely on Sng for sauna info).

Sng can follow up any negative review by qualifying the remarks, or noting they have spoken to the girl. But cutting out negative reviews without expressly indicating that strikes me as less than forthcoming. And I say that as a Sng fan and subscriber.

Uncle Volodya
05-21-16, 17:56
Uncle V,

It seems there is some karma between us, we keep on banging into each other in diff forums. I've tried Manhatten when I used to live in Sng 6 year ago they used to call me Jesus then I was the same then I am the same now must have fucked each and every Viet from there Judy was a slow place then but the BBQ outside Judy's was better then Manhatten and the lb's were a chilled out lot to talk to, I've had a lot of fun in shanghai used to live in bodi it was newly built in the family suite and travel every night around 12 to the bund to bar Rouge or some other farang bar I forgot the name, then someone told me Hollywood in Xintiandi tried that for a couple of nights fucked 2 or 3 Chinese babes but no fun in sex then this club I forgot mint or m2 near some park on both the sides of park were these clubs but again no success then got hooked to Manhatten as I am now hooked to Moscow in Dubai where ever I used to go in shanghai on any night at 3 am I had to land in Manhatten every night as I am a WG myself, used to sit and chat with then Viets, there were a few Thais there also, occasional Mongolians and once in a week Russians used to come but that was rare, have eaten in the outside BBQ a lot with Viets in the cold months of November to February with sometimes raining non-stop and me drinking and eating used to be a corona drinker then and the bar boy's used to bring my drink outside near the cart fucking crazy I was.

Women used to come to my home for food and I still used to pay them 700-1000 and to eat the breakfast at Bodi and enjoy the facilities in my room, I have till date never gone in Bodi's bar or enjoyed the breakfast but Viet women in my room always had that crazy me. Manhatten was my base in shanghai of my 1 year stint in shanghai, I have made out in the mens washroom, in the alley which leads to the bathroom, danced on the bar and I used to sit on the bar and drink many times I was young and crazy then I am old and less crazy now.

But we have to meet to try the crazy times again.

Cheers to you mate,

AlexAlex my brother from another mother!

I was also a constant at Manhattan about 2 years ago when I was working in SH for a month. Great place. I love VN girls for their hot bodies and GFE. I met a VN girl there I am still in touch with and visit ever so often. We celebrated New Year's together in Saigon this year.

We definitely should met sometime soon. My next trip to Asia is Hong Kong end of next month. Then Thailand in August.

I am not sure I could keep up with you. Or survive, for that matter. 555.

But we'd have some great fun.

SamCan
05-21-16, 23:02
I don't believe one bad review will cut a girl's business by 80 percent. I can speak from my own experience. I submitted a somewhat mixed review that sng refused to publish. I felt I was quite fair but included information that a future client should be aware of. After that experience, I continued to subscribe to Sng but have no longer used its escorts (I still rely on Sng for sauna info).

Sng can follow up any negative review by qualifying the remarks, or noting they have spoken to the girl. But cutting out negative reviews without expressly indicating that strikes me as less than forthcoming. And I say that as a Sng fan and subscriber.That is OK guy. You can believe what you want. I am really not an apologist for SNG. I just saw this at work.

Actually in the example I am talking about, the girl was giving 5 deals as a newbie. After this happened on deal 2, she couldn't even get her last 3 deals with anyone at a discount. For this example it was a 100% shut down of business. As Steven leaves the number of deals showing, it stayed without her getting a deal for quite a while. I finally emailed him and asked. He said it shut her down completely.

I agree that if things are not as advertised, we have a right to complain. I have written a number of feedbacks on the complaint form (both good and bad). I have always gotten a thank you email and told me what feedback was given to the girl. Steven runs a flag system. If he get's 3 similar complaints the girl is taken off the page for a while. (or permanently) to me that is fair as anyone can complain or not click when it comes to the hobby.

As I said, each to his own. For China, this is probably as good as it gets when it comes to accuracy in advertising.

SAM.

TomSf
05-22-16, 00:55
MW, you are more likely to die or be injured crossing the street or on the sidewalks of Shanghai. The traffic police are hassling the electric scooter drivers and pedestrians, but not the car drivers turning from the right and left at intersections with no intentions of stopping to yield your right of way. They only stop for a steel or concrete barrier. I was told by an experienced member Not go a sauna or MP in the afternoon, say 3:00 pm. The LE are after the bosses to make a point, not the patrons. LE is less likely to raid if the place Is full. Too much manpower is needed.That is wishful thinking believing the police actually wait till a place hardly has any customers to bust it. Also, letting the customers go is ridiculous. Their are plenty of videos and newspaper articles about places in China getting busted and everyone getting arrested. I guess ignorance is bliss.

Carage
05-22-16, 02:02
The timing probably depends on the motive of LE.

If there is a political agenda from higher-ups, which usually is in the form of some arrest quota.

Then LE will target a place when there are lots of customers.

If the primary motive of the bust is personal / financial.

Say to extort money from the club owner by demonstrating there is a new sheriff in town.

Then it makes more sense to keep the raid as low profile as possible, preferably out of the news.

So they would raid at a quiet time.

FictionalSpace
05-22-16, 02:13
Quick sauna report from three different trips. This is the sauna that is located in Wugong Hotel on the 9th or 10th floor. I can't remember the name of the spa itself, unfortunately.

Location: Near the Bund, about a 10-15 minute walk from the Westin Bund Center. From the Westin main entrance, go right. At the second traffic light, turn left. Walk several blocks and the Wugong Hotel will be on your left on a corner. In the window is a sign for a sauna. The hotel has revolving doors in front and a reception desk off to the right. Enter the lobby, walk past reception to the back of the room and the elevators are off to your right. The floor with the spa is clearly marked in the elevator.

Visit #1:

This was my first Chinese sauna experience. Entered about 8 pm on a weeknight and was greeted by two female receptionist sorts who verified that I indeed wanted a "special massage" and then pointed me toward the changing room. Changed, showered, was shown to a room to sit and relax. After sitting for a few moments, a manager-type gentleman appeared and greeted me in perfect English to explain pricing. Three tiers: 700,800, 900. He then brought in a lineup of about 12 - 15 girls. Chose one who was a couple of years older than most but good body and seemed playful. She was in the 700 tier.

She showed me down a labyrinth of hallways and stairs to a room where she showered me and herself. Some playfulness in the shower then on to the bed. Rimming, BBBJ (in multiple positions), DATY, then on went the hat and we had a fun time in many positions. She was enthusiastic, fun, and energetic. Only drawback was that her teeth were pretty gnarly, which I didn't notice until too late. Oh well. Afterwards, a bit of relaxing and then back to the shower and out the door.

Visit #2:

After a good first experience, went back later that week. This time chose a 900 tier who was younger and had a fantastic body. This time the room was much nicer--flowers on the bed, bigger space, nicer shower. I thought perhaps this was what came with the 900 price, but that theory is disproven in Visit #3.

She was shy at first in the shower and I was concerned that this would be a dull visit. That quickly changed when things got a bit playful and I managed to get a couple of giggles from her. Onto a great BBBJ and rimming. She wanted to jump on top, but I flipped her over for DATY. She was hesitant and so I spent some time warming her up and then she agreed. And WOW was she into it. Good times where had. Then the cover goes on and all positions are explored, including me standing and holding her, which I find is usually a no go.

After I finish rather quickly, we lay down and start to make what little chat we can. She has a smattering of English words and I have the same for Chinese. She's really into it and we have fun figuring out translations of things and just bantering. Then she asks me if we can go for round 2. Of course! In the middle of that, the phone rang and I think she told them we were finishing because she kept going as if it never rang. I finished and then on to the shower.

One of the best experiences I've had in any country. I regret not getting her WeChat.

Visit #3:

A few months later, back in Shanghai. Wanted to find the girl from visit #2, and after two good visits, figured this sauna was worth a third stop. I couldn't have been more wrong. Previous girls weren't there, as I sort of expected. Picked another girl with good looks, but her attitude was terrible. No DATY. No fingering. Only missionary or her on top. BBBJ was okay, but before and after putting it in her mouth, she would gargle with some sort of rinse-- Every time. Made it so there was no flow to the session. Also, the room was weird and there was grainy porn playing on repeat on the TV with the sound on. Somehow I managed to finish and then she turned out to be also kind of a brick. Usually you can have a bit of small chat even if you don't speak the language if you have a few limited words of Chinese, which I do. This girl just DIDN'T get it and body language / miming was lost on her. Ultimately I just went back to the shower. And this was a 900 girl.

Whew.

Summary: I like this sauna, but YMMV with the girl. All three visits I have been greeted by the English-speaking manager, so I may ask him about this next time and tell him exactly what I want.

TomSf
05-22-16, 02:25
The timing probably depends on the motive of LE.

If there is a political agenda from higher-ups, which usually is in the form of some arrest quota.

Then LE will target a place when there are lots of customers.

If the primary motive of the bust is personal / financial.

Say to extort money from the club owner by demonstrating there is a new sheriff in town.

Then it makes more sense to keep the raid as low profile as possible, preferably out of the news.

So they would raid at a quiet time.I agree Sir.

Ikksman
05-22-16, 03:26
The timing probably depends on the motive of LE.
If there is a political agenda from higher-ups, which usually is in the form of some arrest quota.
Then LE will target a place when there are lots of customers.
If the primary motive of the bust is personal / financial.
Say to extort money from the club owner by demonstrating there is a new sheriff in town.
Then it makes more sense to keep the raid as low profile as possible, preferably out of the news.
So they would raid at a quiet time.There are many reasons for the raids and the timing, techniques and tools used. This is much too complicated to detail in a single post. But I agree with the points that you and BJ4987 documented.

A couple of additional points worth noting:

The reasons for the plethora of raids in many cities since Xi Jinping assumed power were to help destroy the cash flow and imprison the Xing Zemin political faction 'tigers' (Xi's 3 Vices Campaign. Drugs, prostitution and gambling).

Many 'windy weather' periods or specific raids are broadcast beforehand and few managers, WGs and mamasans are arrested. These may occur where a police chief wants to show his power for any one of a number of reasons (new appointee, increased corruption fees, etc).

Sometimes there are fully pre-planned operations where a big show of force is used, accompanied by CCTV teams and the PSB's own media guys. These may occur when investigative media have been publicising particular red-light area and residents have been complaining. This is also when a few customers may get arrested, but generally they get off lightly if they play the game.

BTW, I forget whether it was 2009 or 2010 when CPC ordered that there will be no public shaming of customers of KTVs, saunas, etc.

Ikksman

Beijing4987
05-23-16, 01:11
Tomsf wrote:

That is wishful thinking believing the police actually wait till a place hardly has any customers to bust it. Also, letting the customers go is ridiculous. Their are plenty of videos and newspaper articles about places in China getting busted and everyone getting arrested. I guess ignorance is bliss.

My response to Tomsf:

"One experienced member said the target of raids is management" Carrage seconded this opinion, however a raid involving many customers will not be a quiet affair. Ikksman pointed out that the timing of raids and therefore the number of patrons present will vary. I did not say that any of the patrons in the sweep wold be released. Several massage shops in Jingan are gone or only open infrequently recently. My longtime provider will only do oil massage and happy ending after 11pm and at that time with fear. After 1am no fear. LE is sleeping,she says.If Tomsf has LE contacts or experience being busted please enlighten the rest of us. The news media everywhere is biased and a tool of the powers that be. I have criticized Tomsf in private. Others have not been so as kind.

KamKat
05-23-16, 02:22
I too have read about this in Suzhou, I am visiting shanghai and Guangzhou, how do I search for these places?

Thanks.


I'm been exploring Shanghai's dancehall scene. The scene is not as big as Suzhou, but Shanghai currently has three decent size ones and several smaller ones. You pay 20 entrance and then 20 for each dance, which takes phase in the dark. Most girls will let you grope them anywhere in hope that you'll dance more rounds. Everyone inside is Chibese. If you're white or anything else you really stick out. Of course, no one speaks English.

If you're Asian and speK Mando, and are interested in joining me one night, then send me a PM. I don't want to go with a non-Asian because we'll stick out too much. I also don't want to post the addresses publicly. LE has bend shutting some of them down.

-Playboy.

Chuckle One
05-23-16, 12:32
Quick sauna report from three different trips. This is the sauna that is located in Wugong Hotel on the 9th or 10th floor. I can't remember the name of the spa itself, unfortunately.

Location: Near the Bund, about a 10-15 minute walk from the Westin Bund Center. From the Westin main entrance, go right. At the second traffic light, turn left. Walk several blocks and the Wugong Hotel will be on your left on a corner. In the window is a sign for a sauna. The hotel has revolving doors in front and a reception desk off to the right. Enter the lobby, walk past reception to the back of the room and the elevators are off to your right. The floor with the spa is clearly marked in the elevator.




Great report brother! Thank you. I am in town Friday night and will check it out for sure.

DiscreteBoy
05-23-16, 12:41
Great report brother! Thank you. I am in town Friday night and will check it out for sure.Great report.

I'll be traveling to shanghai for the first time. I've be always been to Malaysia and Thailand. But now this will be my first time in shanghai. Anyone recommend Guangdong shanghai hotel, any nice place for mongering there? And what you think will be on menu side? Anything nearby or any suggestion. Is it safe at night?

Thanks for the advice.

DanielMccc
05-23-16, 12:55
I've been debating with myself whether or not to post this, but decided I should based on some of the recent discussions. Before I start, I want to clarify my position: I believe every Shanghai mongerer benefits from the service Steven and his site provides!

However, some issues have come to my attention recently, and it may be that I was just naive, but I thought it worthy of mentioning. First, all the pictures are not in fact real. You have to read through the comments to verify this if you want to. What I've learned is that if an individual page does not say "verified" pictures, they are probably not actually her. Now, from reading comments, it seems that sng does verify that they are reflective of the person (hight, shape, etc) - but not the person. I would also add that there is question as to how often they are verified. For sure I think it's unrealistic to expect monthly checks, but in one case I experienced, she looked so different from her pictures that I almost had to hold the picture next to her to see it was in fact the same girl (no need to go into additional details as she has been removed).

The other detail recently identified is that no negative reviews are permitted at all. I kinda realized this sometime time ago, but it became clearer recently. Negative comments must go through the complaint form..First thing first, I respect all that were said and I do appreciate having SNG at my finger tips.

I too had some less than ideal experience with SNG escort. I used over 8 different SNG escorts (to be precise, all the non-Chinese plus a handful of the higher end Chinese ones). IMO, only 2 of them were value for money, being LanLan and Mimi the Viet). The rest, don't do this, don't do that, over the top fake GFE, poor hygiene, selective memory on time etc.

As we all know, SNG is one of its kind in SH, if I may say, it's a monopoly. I don't see Steven doing anything wrong by removing the negative comments or review. Just put yourself in his shoes if you were running SNG for money (be it second or third income).

I too was a bit naive at first, but having been around for a while now, I am less so (I hope). Guys, take it with a pinch of salt just like everything else in life. Do you believe 100% what the TV commercials tell you?

I respect Steven's decision but don't support it. But if you really want to air your complaint, why not posting it here? I am sure it does more good than bad for us Gengis Khans.

Let's talk about the girls potential income cut, again, I am sure SNG is not the only place that sells sex in SH. They will live (but accidentally buying a handbag with a smaller LV label might ki. The idea of forum is to offer a balance view of the experience. So I see nothing wrong posting your factual experience here.

But hey, it doesn't really matter for SNG, as a guess, there would be a lot of newbie, 1-timer using SNG's service (plus the regular Khans). So, a negative review is not going to kill SNG or causing a headline bankruptcy. The last time I checked, this forum was supposed to be "For Punters"? Happy shagging folks.

DanielMccc
05-23-16, 13:12
I stumbled across this joint on Dianping actually. I was looking for a legit massage place and landed one with the extras. There's a picture of the manager's QR code on Dianping, the hookup was dead easy! (mind you I don't read Chinese).

So, long story short, was presented with a bunch of pictures through wechat. The decision was easy. I normally like to pre-book and skip the whole fish bowl thing. But after seeing the pictures, I told the manager, " I am getting an Uber now, see you in 10."

So there I was doing all the boring bits that you would have imagined, I took the fishbowl route and boy oh boy, I was delighted to see all the ladies were professionally lined up, standing in the position in an orderly manner.

Let me be clear. Not all the ladies were drop dead gorgeous model material, but what I appreciate most was the mix and the value for money. They don't seem to randomly rank their girls' price level. I picked a 1600 girl and that was the best experience I had for this price.

The following visits, I tried various priced girls, 900,1200, 2100 and 3000. I must say I was satisfied each time and happy with the price I pay. And I like my manager, because he is probably the only sauna manager actually listen to my needs and recommend the girls that fit my requirement, without fail. (I am a very picky Khan).

As I became a regular visitor, they often reserve the most discrete room for me. Overall, management shows organized and keep the place clean. Do ask for more towels if you want.

PM me for details. No one-timer or newbies please (not negotiable, we are not in Bangkok).

Sinofaguo
05-23-16, 17:34
FYI I noticed the MP on Beijing Road / Chengdu Bei Road xroad (north side of First Block compound) was being seriously redecorated today (walls getting destroyed and such).

The place was active just a few days ago. I guess Jing'an's scene is still seriously getting revamped by the new leadership.
Accross the other side from Chengdu Bei Road they would be in Huangpu district... not even any mercy for places at the border :)

AndyTime
05-24-16, 04:12
Last night I was looking for an out-call girl to my hotel. I'm really tired of those fake or over-photoshoped pics from wechat, so I ask my friend for help. Through his trusted connection, I managed to choose my honey over dozens of girls standing right in front of me.

And different from the sauna pros, my honey is a juicy juicy univ students. As usual, 2 shots at night, 1 shot in the morning.

SigToNoise
05-24-16, 04:38
Hi,

New member. Have been in Shanghai for 3 months and have been exploring around Jing'an quite a bit. Family life limits me to daytime exploration which is limiting but also fun as many locals tend to be quieter during the day.

I've been to three MPs in the neighborhood.

First was a run down hole in the wall place full of older ladies around Shaanxi and Changping. But amidst them was a young beauty with gorgeous eyes. I had been ready to walk out but decided to point at her and check if she was available. She was. Price was 100 RMB! She led me to a dark windowless closet sized room with out a door lock. Had me strip down into some of those disposable shorts. Massage was crap. For an extra 200 she allowed DATY, riding my face RCG and let me kiss her tits a little bit and massage her very cute ass. Her pussy was very nicely trimmed and much smoother than I've seen. She had a scar on her belly from a C section I suspect. Otherwise very hot. Have not been back, her attitude was a bit on the cold, mechanical side, but price and goods were perfect. Place was bit too sketchy for my taste thou.

A few days later I hit the Spring Massage Parlor on Jiangning. Got lucky with a stunning girl. Great ass, great tits, small, big nipples, I like that. Rate was 268 to the house. She asked for 300 more for more fun. My mistake was expecting the same level of service and access I had at the first place. Was disappointed. Once we settled on the price Girl claimed to be on her period so no below the belt access. Got a good massage, a good Finnish and a good time with her tits. I'd like to go back as we had good rapport, I find her very hot and she promised me full access next visit. I just think 300 is too much and now the precedence has been set. Possible to negotiate downwards. Maybe? Thoughts?

Last week I went to a new place just off Changping road heading north, second floor, don't remember the cross street a couple blocks north of Changping stn. Found an intersection that had probably a dozen different MPs. Checked out most but none of the girls / ladies were appealing. This one place I eventually settled in had a mamasan running it with lots of hot girls. They were wearing dresses, then changed into uniforms. Hot girl, some English. For 100 she let me play with her tits and an extra 100 got her panties off. But not access to her labias. Very hairy and was not willing. I didn't press it, second 100 was not worth paying. OK massage, overpriced at 290 RMB. 60 min. Not good value, but I'm curious about the other girls there. Might go back. Facilities were clean.

Anyways, I'm new in town. Would love some advice. Seems like scene is rapidly changing.

I'd love a regular place to hit up. Curious about the MP+ level of service, not sure how to find a place like that. Would like a regular girl that would enjoy DATY followed with a nice massage. If anyone knows a place a guy can get that kind of fun without breaking the bank or risking too much let me know. If anyone else is interested in daytime exploration, I'd be keen to do so. Have not been to any Saunas yet and I'm curious.

Also wondering abut the scene in Hangzhou as I may have to move there.

SIG2 Noise

Marelobo Mex
05-24-16, 04:46
I've been debating with myself whether or not to post this, but decided I should based on some of the recent discussions.
Before I start, I want to clarify my position: I believe every Shanghai mongerer benefits from the service Steven and his site provides!

Guys,

Everyone finds value in SNG.

My thought is Steven runs it the way he runs it. If you don't like it, then you can run your own site anyway you want.

I think he takes feedback and makes changes. He spends an enormous amount of time providing a highly valuable service to those of us who can't speak and read Chinese.

He is not doing it for charity. And anyway he wants to do it is fine by me.

There are a number of things on his site that would like him to differently. I have made some of these suggestions directly to him. But in general unless I was his business partner or thought I could a better job, the best thing I can think to say is Thank you for the information you provide. It is useful and valuable to me.

MM.

Sinofaguo
05-25-16, 02:35
My thought is Steven runs it the way he runs it. If you don't like it, then you can run your own site anyway you want.

He is not doing it for charity. And anyway he wants to do it is fine by me.

Err I have to side with Taz on this one.

As you said "Steven" is not doing his site for free / out of pure kindness for the community as we all do when we share info for free here.

He decided to earn money from it and is publishing content on a freemium / premium basis and pimping girls offering them visibility and a hotline system.
As such it seems totally reasonable for his customers to review / report their experience with his service.
Thats what this forum is for. People review girls, they review other services / stores, why should Shanghai Guide be exempted from these reviews?

Taz's intervention is not purely negative, he voiced his experience in a rather fair way.
If the neutrality of the review system on SNG is indeed being played with by Steeven, censoring / hiding several fair negative reviews by customers, I feel Taz is totally right to voice his experience with the site and warn potentiel users to take it into account.

Its not the first time there have been questions about SNG website. He started his site by mostly copying info which had been published for free by other mongers here, on sammy singapore board, and other places several of us take part in. Several of the advertised girls when he started were also contacts which had been published for free on these boards. So it did raise some tensions when these infos started entering a freemium / premium business for him and same goes when some girls rates became inflated as he put them on his site.

That being said I believe his website offers a great complementary service to the boards as info gets scrolled down / hidden over hundreds of pages and a blog gives a better overall view of the info. Moreover he improved the content over time with info from the chinese boards too and from his own scouting. As such its a great tool for people who don't speak chinese and only spend a few days / hours in Shanghai and don't want to waste time. And even for more permanent people in Shanghai it can be complementary to our scooting / recovering info faster / finding a couple new places without hassle.

So yes his business can both be praised for the good it brings just like it can be criticized for less positive things. Just like any business we review here on a daily basis, with different point of view / experiences from different mongers.

Tazman099
05-25-16, 03:45
I would like to clarify two points:

1) I was not complaining, criticizing nor passing judgment. I was merely informing. Which is a fundamental purpose of this board.

2) I believe sng and ISG to be complimentary resources, not competitive.

It seems as though there is a fine line and clearly history I am not aware of. I will therefore make this my final comment on the subject: all website owners clearly have the right to run their sites how they see fit. It is up to informed customers to decide what resources to use.

Taz.


Guys,

Everyone finds value in SNG.

My thought is Steven runs it the way he runs it. If you don't like it, then you can run your own site anyway you want.

I think he takes feedback and makes changes. He spends an enormous amount of time providing a highly valuable service to those of us who can't speak and read Chinese.

He is not doing it for charity. And anyway he wants to do it is fine by me.

There are a number of things on his site that would like him to differently. I have made some of these suggestions directly to him. But in general unless I was his business partner or thought I could a better job, the best thing I can think to say is Thank you for the information you provide. It is useful and valuable to me.

MM.

Bad Boy Billy
05-25-16, 03:46
Guys,

Everyone finds value in SNG.No they don't. I have been coming to SH for 20 years. No value at all in this site. And am more than willing to admit I have previously complained to ISG that this commercial site is totally inappropriate on a site which was designed for free information flow. IMHO if he wants to post he should be confined to Classifieds Thread.

TomSf
05-25-16, 07:09
Tomsf wrote:

That is wishful thinking believing the police actually wait till a place hardly has any customers to bust it. Also, letting the customers go is ridiculous. Their are plenty of videos and newspaper articles about places in China getting busted and everyone getting arrested. I guess ignorance is bliss.

My response to Tomsf:

"One experienced member said the target of raids is management" Carrage seconded this opinion, however a raid involving many customers will not be a quiet affair. Ikksman pointed out that the timing of raids and therefore the number of patrons present will vary. I did not say that any of the patrons in the sweep wold be released. Several massage shops in Jingan are gone or only open infrequently recently. My longtime provider will only do oil massage and happy ending after 11pm and at that time with fear. After 1am no fear. LE is sleeping,she says.If Tomsf has LE contacts or experience being busted please enlighten the rest of us. The news media everywhere is biased and a tool of the powers that be. I have criticized Tomsf in private. Others have not been so as kind.The only expert on the in an outs of raids would be the police in that particular area. The member you are quoting, by his only admission said he does not monger much any more. Which is really means not at all. I would not put a lot of faith in his info. Yes, he lives on this forum and and this forum is like his full time job. So he lives through us. He has a couple allies on this forum to attack people and has already been kicked off the site before. But begs to come back on. He commented on my post under another name recently. That is the only reason I mention it. But, anyway, Bejing4987, China is a fast moving place. Busts happen when they happen. We can all judge the times when we think it would be safest. If a monger gets caught in a raid. It would be very bad for the monger and I am sure worse for management.

The Guy
05-25-16, 09:01
The purpose of this forum is to share information that is good, bad and nuanced about mongering in Shanghai. If a poster shares that SNG doctors its reviews and knowingly posts photos of a girl who is different from that advertised, that is useful information.

It does not mean SNG does not provide an excellent and somewhat unique service.

No reason to cast the issue in extreme black / white terms.

GregoryB
05-25-16, 12:38
I would not completely say its having no value. I found some reasonable contacts there, but what I also do not share is that critical reviews shall be supressed: If they go through an internal reality check. Similar to good hotel search sites like "holiday check"- ok. But not let any critical remarks be posted is not acceptable. I had last month a girl with poor hygiene and only brilliant comments. Another one I fancied to meet but she had some very negative reviews in another website * next to good reviews too. So I can make my own rating if I want to run the risk to see her, which I did not in her case.

That website * more often reports reviews from SNG girls now under "country China" and there you can get a more realistic rating.

But my best experiences for Shanghai and Beijing as of yet I found here in this Forum from recommendations via PM. For example from you BBB for Beijing. Thank you again publicly BBB!

If anybody is interested may be I can give back via PM some of my favorites, although I'd rather kept them for myself.

But I accept: It's a business (still a touchy one that's why the review issue is tricky and personal recommendations also are"YMMV".).

Gregory.


No they don't. I have been coming to SH for 20 years. No value at all in this site. And am more than willing to admit I have previously complained to ISG that this commercial site is totally inappropriate on a site which was designed for free information flow. IMHO if he wants to post he should be confined to Classifieds Thread.

DoItUnderwater
05-26-16, 17:48
Hi all,

How about we get back to discussion of the sweet ladies and locations?

I only get to come to Shanghai a couple times a year and like to keep informed about the "weather" by reading the field reports on ISG. It has been troubling to hear about the recent closures in Jing An, Gubei and Minhang. That's my normal area. I am not a sauna guy, prefer places like the Buddha place and Shaanxi Lu (both closed I read).

I look forward to reading some updates to prepare me for my next visit in July. I will be sure to file some reports if I find some gems.

Thanks all.

Doit.

Arizona123
05-26-16, 19:10
Hi all,

How about we get back to discussion of the sweet ladies and locations?

I only get to come to Shanghai a couple times a year and like to keep informed about the "weather" by reading the field reports on ISG. It has been troubling to hear about the recent closures in Jing An, Gubei and Minhang. That's my normal area. I am not a sauna guy, prefer places like the Buddha place and Shaanxi Lu (both closed I read).

I look forward to reading some updates to prepare me for my next visit in July. I will be sure to file some reports if I find some gems.

Thanks all.

Doit.Doit,

Jing'an is clamped down, but Gubei and Minhang are opening back up. Yes, Buddha, Ming and Shaanxi Lu are closed but go north for about 2 km and you'll find Lizhuang Spa. Check out my post #10228. Corner of Changshou Lu and Jiangning Lu. Shop is on the north side of Changshou Lu so it's in the Putuo district.

In Gubei, walk along Huangjinchengdao or Ronghuadongdao (south of Carrefour) towards Gubei Lu. You'll find no less than 8 MP's bunched up together in a courtyard. They cater to the Japanese clientele.

PM for more info.
AZ.

Beijing4987
05-26-16, 23:12
Shaanxi Rd #250, next to the police station, is still open. It has gone way downhill since #3 and #18 left. Never was too clean and the protectors at the door not so friendly. If she is still there #5 has beautiful breasts and a decent handjob.

Midwestern
05-27-16, 04:22
Former Beijing monger here. For newbies to Shanghai, SNG is useful. When I first started coming here, I didn't know what to do. And I can't speak Mandarin. Some fellow ISG bros gave me some MP suggestions (via PM), and I'm very grateful to them, but when it got windy, I got nervous. So, I contacted girls on SNG's site. They are willing to book short-time hotels (about 80 kuai) near you. The nice thing about this is that you're unlikely to get ripped off, since they are monitored by Steven and reviewed by mongers, and they have to register themselves to get a room so it's pretty safe. Also, it is away from the eyes of LE. Eventually, I'll learn the lay of the land, but until then, I may continue paying the high price on SNG's site in exchange for the reliable service and convenience.

Marwar58
05-29-16, 13:19
I was in Shanghai May 23 and went to my favorite sauna--the old "999" near Shanghai Stadium--multiple name changes. It was flat out closed--no sign of life. I scrambled to recall how to get to Sarcosa in Pu Dong and was successful-always remember the Burger King for orientation. So I went there for 2 nights--its been 8 years since last trip. The girls are nice enough--no more semblance of a massage routine--just basic suck / fuck service. Night pricing was 700 for one girls (2 shots--60 min) or 1100 for 2 girls. I enjoyed both sessions.

I tried to improvise to find other soapy saunas but found it very hard to research once inside China. The Happy Massage site --most reviews seem 2 years old. The SNG helpful but was not set up / registered to get final location info. Better luck next time. Hope the clamp downs ease up.

Why The Face
05-29-16, 15:54
I stayed at The Courtyard by Marriott on Hengfend for 2 nights. The second night I was walking in front of my hotel when a lady asked me if wanted company because she had girls. I asked her for pictures with their stomachs uncovered and she replies"she come now, 5 minutes. " I had difficulty talking with her so I walked on. BTW I had no intention of picking up a girl for sex. I was just taking a walk to get something to eat. I saw two women walking on the sidewalk near the front of a hotel only 2 more minutes down the sidewalk. The one looks back and I can tell they are hookers. I say "Hi" and chat a little on the sidewalk and she has good English. She wants 200 usd. We agree on 1000 cny. I told her I needed BBBJ. I could tell by the way she answered she would do BB sex. BTW I have never had sex with a Chinese hooker. The timing was perfect as it was only 8 pm on my final night.

Back in the room all is well (at least in the beginning). She takes her clothes off and looks nice. We take a shower together. She gives me an average BBBJ but I was satisfied. I put her in missionary and started rubbing her clit BB. I told her I want 15 minutes of sex, would cum, then take a shower, and then we could go for a second round. 2 hours max I told her. BB sex was good and at 15 minutes I cum and all is well. I take a shower and afterward she gives me a nice 15 minute full body massage. It wasn't profession but enough to relax me. She gives me a 5 minute BBBJ and I am back hard again. Less than a minute before I was ready for a second round she receives a text. She had a mix playing on her phone and it went to half volume. She says one moment and looks at her phone. I told her to come back or I would lose my hard on. She keeps typing and I told her I was serious. She comes closer to the bed and I tell her to stop typing. She keeps typing. I tell her how rude it is to stop having sex to have a conversation on her phone. She just keeps typing. I told her if she doesn't stop in the next 10 second I am giving her 500 and kicking her out. She continues and I scream at her to get out. All this time I am injecting small hints to stop texting followed by firm statements. 30 seconds later she stops and says sorry. I told her to put her clothes on and get out. I told her she had a choice to make (and she made it) and the mood had changed and we were done. She put her clothes on. I put 500 on the bed and she asked for 100 more which I gave her. I am writing this 10 minutes afterward and I am not sure how I feel. It being spontaneous was nice but I would rather have paid her 400 for more sex and a happier ending. I have had a ton of these encounters with Spanish women but never have the subtle hints escalated to this. It is not a surprise this happened in China as the entire culture are slaves to their cellphones as opposed to choosing to use them.

ThingStick
05-30-16, 05:58
I stayed at The Courtyard by Marriott on Hengfend for 2 nights. The second night I was walking in front of my hotel when a lady asked me if wanted company because she had girls. I asked her for pictures with their stomachs uncovered and she replies"she come now, 5 minutes. " I had difficulty talking with her so I walked on. BTW I had no intention of picking up a girl for sex. I was just taking a walk to get something to eat. I saw two women walking on the sidewalk near the front of a hotel only 2 more minutes down the sidewalk. The one looks back and I can tell they are hookers. I say "Hi" and chat a little on the sidewalk and she has good English. She wants 200 usd. We agree on 1000 cny. I told her I needed BBBJ. I could tell by the way she answered she would do BB sex. BTW I have never had sex with a Chinese hooker. The timing was perfect as it was only 8 pm on my final night.

Back in the room all is well (at least in the beginning). She takes her clothes off and looks nice. We take a shower together. She gives me an average BBBJ but I was satisfied. I put her in missionary and started rubbing her clit BB. I told her I want 15 minutes of sex, would cum, then take a shower, and then we could go for a second round..Jesus, man. I think you should relax a little. This was a SW. Service may vary. You don't know what was happening on the other end of that phone. This posts reads like you have anger issues, and are mentally unbalanced.

BlahMan333
05-30-16, 12:04
I stayed at The Courtyard by Marriott on Hengfend for 2 nights. The second night I was walking in front of my hotel when a lady asked me if wanted company because she had girls. I asked her for pictures with their stomachs uncovered and she replies"she come now, 5 minutes. " I had difficulty talking with her so I walked on. BTW I had no intention of picking up a girl for sex. I was just taking a walk to get something to eat. I saw two women walking on the sidewalk near the front of a hotel only 2 more minutes down the sidewalk. The one looks back and I can tell they are hookers. I say "Hi" and chat a little on the sidewalk and she has good English. She wants 200 usd. We agree on 1000 cny. I told her I needed BBBJ. I could tell by the way she answered she would do BB sex. BTW I have never had sex with a Chinese hooker. The timing was perfect as it was only 8 pm on my final night..In my humble opinion (feel free to disagree), you are being pretty unreasonable here. She agreed to give you FS and even gave you massage and BB and all these special favors at your negotiated lower price. She did her part already. But you insist that she needs to cater to your every whim and even not allow her to communicate on her phone. Sure, we all want good GFE and for someone to go above and beyond, but in reality we should be happy for a decent effort. Many WGs will be dishonest and will do bait and switch or all kinds of dishonest tactics. In this case I feel like you should have paid her the amount you agreed upon instead of having her not be allowed to text or chat at all like some kinda controlling guy. No one knows if she had someone talk to her about something important or whatever. Seems like she tried to make you happy overall and a lot of people receive much worse effort.

Just my opinion.

WillBlak
05-31-16, 15:37
Hi seniors,

I am in China for 4 days, staying in a hotel near new Pudong district. Can someone help me with an indie girls no.

I can reciprocate in India.

Please PM me.

Thanks in advance.

Alex7J
05-31-16, 17:21
Hi seniors,

I am in China for 4 days, staying in a hotel near new Pudong district. Can someone help me with an indie girls no.

I can reciprocate in India.

Please PM me.

Thanks in advance.Dude,

just go to Manhatten club on Tongren Lu and you will find what you are looking for: Go around 10-11 Pm and you will come back happy with a lady in tow.

Cheers.

NorthSouth
05-31-16, 18:47
Agree with Blahman333 and Thingstick assessments of WhyTheFace's behavior. He had acted like an inconsiderate pushy boor, with shortcoming more than an inability to sustain an erection. He negotiated a price ( a lousy 1000 rmb) to have someone come to his hotel for 2 hours, with BB sex (exposing her, and him, to risk of some horrible STD). That was not such a princely sum, and certainly did not give anyone the right to act as if he owned someone like a Lord of the Realm.

It sounded like the woman had catered to all he had demanded until the unexpected text came. It appeared the message was important, that she had to answer. There was no reason for his overreaction. The woman actually apologized afterwards, and he threw her out and shortchanged her. Does he only pay 60% of his dinner bill in a restaurant if he felt the waitress was slow to come to his table when called?

His much generalized swipe about Chinese and cell phones smacked of racism. How much time had he spent in China and how often had he traveled the world? Where they are available, the engrossment in smartphones is true for pretty much everyone under the age of 50 around the world.

MrClen
05-31-16, 21:27
Agree with Blahman333 and Thingstick assessments of WhyTheFace's behavior. He had acted like an inconsiderate pushy boor, with shortcoming more than an inability to sustain an erection. He negotiated a price ( a lousy 1000 rmb) to have someone come to his hotel for 2 hours, with BB sex (exposing her, and him, to risk of some horrible STD). That was not such a princely sum, and certainly did not give anyone the right to act as if he owned someone like a Lord of the Realm.

It sounded like the woman had catered to all he had demanded until the unexpected text came. It appeared the message was important, that she had to answer. There was no reason for his overreaction. The woman actually apologized afterwards, and he threw her out and shortchanged her. Does he only pay 60% of his dinner bill in a restaurant if he felt the waitress was slow to come to his table when called?

His much generalized swipe about Chinese and cell phones smacked of racism. How much time had he spent in China and how often had he traveled the world? Where they are available, the engrossment in smartphones is true for pretty much everyone under the age of 50 around the world.I have had similar experiences but I really only do LT and have done ST maybe twice. My normal practice is KTV's and taking a girl back to the hotel from there. I know in the best (and usually more expensive) KTV's they will take the phones from the girls to be returned at the end of the KTV evening. Yes these girls do like their phones, but it seems to be a worldwide thing. It is possible and has happened more than once that the girls in the KTV's will spend morfe time texting on their phones than doing what they are being paid to do--keep the customer happy.

Now I will admit that a couple of times during the actual act, the girl actually answered her phone and went on to text back and forth with whoever. If that won't kill a erection you are a much better man (as in younger!) than I. And yes, I have told them to get out but always paid the full price, as I do tend to go to the same KTV's and don't want to get a bad reputation.

Worst experience-was when I wass involved in DATY and the girl got an apple from the fruit bowl and started munching away. Yes, I threw her out, as this was the end of a really bad evening from her, there was more but no need to go into it.

Now, maybe I am a little smarter, I tell the girl to put away the phone away. Turn IT off! Haven't you had the 5 am call come into her phone and she suddenly has to leave because her, friend, brother, mother, uncle, is sick, in the hospital, car accident, etc. I have even gone as far as putting it into the room safe.

Soooo, he was not all wrong but maybe could have been a bit more understanding. Just my POV!

Fast Eddie 48
05-31-16, 22:47
I was in Shanghai May 23 and went to my favorite sauna--the old "999" near Shanghai Stadium--multiple name changes. It was flat out closed--no sign of life. I scrambled to recall how to get to Sarcosa in Pu Dong and was successful-always remember the Burger King for orientation. So I went there for 2 nights--its been 8 years since last trip. The girls are nice enough--no more semblance of a massage routine--just basic suck / fuck service. Night pricing was 700 for one girls (2 shots--60 min) or 1100 for 2 girls. I enjoyed both sessions.

I tried to improvise to find other soapy saunas but found it very hard to research once inside China. The Happy Massage site --most reviews seem 2 years old. The SNG helpful but was not set up / registered to get final location info. Better luck next time. Hope the clamp downs ease up.To Marwar 58.

I was in Shanghai a few week ago I did find a few low end sauna across from the Stadium did have some cute lady 30 yr old one is very cute only CBJ is offer for 300 rmb, there are a few BBs in the area but all the girl are dog, I think SNG abd happy massage is a waste of time many info is outdated mongering in China change so fast sauna can open this week and closed down the following week.

Fast Eddie 48.

Hobbiest1
06-01-16, 01:26
So I feel like SNG is just "meh". They don't really cater to customer service as I have had similar issues to those already mentioned. BTW. To those who posted be $ me about SNG. Thank you! I had bad experiences with 2 girls and never heard a thing from little Steve.

That OK because I have learned my way around the land of a thousand SCAMS. This part of the world is a wart on the worlds ass. I hate SCAMHAI! And YES I stand behind what you called racist comments. Viva TRUMP and I hope you all the best of luck!

SNG. Uhhhhh - NO THANKS! Shanghai. FUCK NO!

China SUCKS. USA Rules.

H1.


To Marwar 58.

I was in Shanghai a few week ago I did find a few low end sauna across from the Stadium did have some cute lady 30 yr old one is very cute only CBJ is offer for 300 rmb, there are a few BBs in the area but all the girl are dog, I think SNG abd happy massage is a waste of time many info is outdated mongering in China change so fast sauna can open this week and closed down the following week.

Fast Eddie 48.

AndyTime
06-01-16, 03:17
Shanghai is full of scams, especially in outcall girls. So far, my best experience is to find my trusted mummy from a high end KTV, then went to the KTV to choose my girl. I would give the money to the mummy, not the girl. The girl would only get her pay in the morning if I have no complain to the mummy. I think it guarantees the service quality.

Beijing4987
06-01-16, 03:41
Now that the giant sucking sound (hint: the troll that will never return) has left this city and all the high wage jobs return to USA, we will try to pick up the pieces and find and cherish the leftover women. The Great Wall just needs a bit of rammed earth and bricks to be good as new. The developer of Xintiandi showed what a pushover the American was when the real estate market went sour in New York.

SHAExpat
06-01-16, 09:03
I stayed at The Courtyard by Marriott on Hengfend for 2 nights. The second night I was walking in front of my hotel when a lady asked me if wanted company because she had girls. I asked her for pictures with their stomachs uncovered and she replies"she come now, 5 minutes. " I had difficulty talking with her so I walked on. BTW I had no intention of picking up a girl for sex. I was just taking a walk to get something to eat. I saw two women walking on the sidewalk near the front of a hotel only 2 more minutes down the sidewalk. The one looks back and I can tell they are hookers. I say "Hi" and chat a little on the sidewalk and she has good English. She wants 200 usd. We agree on 1000 cny. I told her I needed BBBJ. I could tell by the way she answered she would do BB sex. BTW I have never had sex with a Chinese hooker. The timing was perfect as it was only 8 pm on my final night.

Back in the room all is well (at least in the beginning). She takes her clothes off and looks nice. We take a shower together. She gives me an average BBBJ but I was satisfied. I put her in missionary and started rubbing her clit BB. I told her I want 15 minutes of sex, would cum, then take a shower, and then we could go for a second round. 2 hours max I told her. BB sex was good and at 15 minutes I cum and all is well. I take a shower and afterward she gives me a nice 15 minute full body massage. It wasn't profession but enough to relax me. She gives me a 5 minute BBBJ and I am back hard again. Less than a minute before I was ready for a second round she receives a text..Hi all,

Long time reader, first time post.

In Shanghai, crap like this happens all the time. I go crazy when they are attached to their phones during fun time. The best I would recommend is to go to the saunas where you can report this matter to the mama-san. I had a experience in the past where I had this early 20 year old girl with nice tits who I would try to see once a month. At the beginning I would go to the place she works at and of course trying to develop more feeling I started to have her make outcall at the hotel rather than visiting at her workplace. Like a standard process, we go thru the fun and then afterwards she starts typing text and receiving phone calls. Originally we agreed to a overnight of 1500 rmb (which I was glad to pay), but 2 hours into it she would then give me some bull shit excuse how her female friend is in trouble and shit like that and she had to leave to help.

I know we are about finding the "best value for the money" but like the old saying "what you pay is what you get" especially if it is not within a controlled environment.

Any however, I am Banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside) expat living in Shanghai. Anyone need any recommendation let me know. Glad to help.

ThingStick
06-01-16, 14:14
Hi all,

Long time reader, first time post.

In Shanghai, crap like this happens all the time. I go crazy when they are attached to their phones during fun time. The best I would recommend is to go to the saunas where you can report this matter to the mama-san. I had a experience in the past where I had this early 20 year old girl with nice tits who I would try to see once a month. At the beginning I would go to the place she works at and of course trying to develop more feeling I started to have her make outcall at the hotel rather than visiting at her workplace. Like a standard process, we go thru the fun and then afterwards she starts typing text and receiving phone calls. Originally we agreed to a overnight of 1500 rmb (which I was glad to pay), but 2 hours into it she would then give me some bull shit excuse how her female friend is in trouble and shit like that and she had to leave to help.

I know we are about finding the "best value for the money" but like the old saying "what you pay is what you get" especially if it is not within a controlled environment.

Any however, I am Banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside) expat living in Shanghai. Anyone need any recommendation let me know. Glad to help.But. By that logic. You paid near Japan Goddess "treating you like you're a king" level money, only to have the same thing happen.

I think you should all just chalk it up to YMMV, voice your disappointment with them or any boss you can find, and never see them again.

Why The Face
06-01-16, 15:41
Less than a minute before I was ready for a second round she receives a text. She had a mix playing on her phone and it went to half volume. She says one moment and looks at her phone. I told her to come back or I would lose my hard on. She keeps typing and I told her I was serious. She comes closer to the bed and I tell her to stop typing. She keeps typing. I tell her how rude it is to stop having sex to have a conversation on her phone. She just keeps typing. I told her if she doesn't stop in the next 10 second I am giving her 500 and kicking her out. She continues and I scream at her to get out. All this time I am injecting small hints to stop texting followed by firm statements. 30 seconds later she stops and says sorry. I told her to put her clothes on and get out. I told her she had a choice to make (and she made it) and the mood had changed and we were done. She put her clothes on. I put 500 on the bed and she asked for 100 more which I gave her. I am writing this 10 minutes afterward and I am not sure how I feel. It being spontaneous was nice but I would rather have paid her 400 for more sex and a happier ending. I have had a ton of these encounters with Spanish women but never have the subtle hints escalated to this. It is not a surprise this happened in China as the entire culture are slaves to their cellphones as opposed to choosing to use them.


Hi all,

Long time reader, first time post.

In Shanghai, crap like this happens all the time. I go crazy when they are attached to their phones during fun time. I realized my error shortly after my post. This confrontation and mood changer could have been avoided. All I had to do was ask her to put her phone in airplane mode when she entered the room. I normally do this especially with new girls I can't depend on to be considerate. If she gave me a hard time all I had to say was, "baby, please do this for me or I am not going to be able to fully relax. " This would have been so much easier than depending on her to control her urges to respond to the incoming text. I would suggest you guys do the same if this bothers you as much as it does me.

DoItUnderwater
06-01-16, 16:05
Shaanxi Rd #250, next to the police station, is still open. It has gone way downhill since #3 and #18 left. Never was too clean and the protectors at the door not so friendly. If she is still there #5 has beautiful breasts and a decent handjob.Haha, too funny. The MP right next to the police station. Reminds me of the Diner next to the Police station in US where officers can always stop in for a free coffee and donut. No wonder they are still open.

Arizona123
06-01-16, 20:31
Red Rope used to be rather popular years ago, then it kind of disappeared. I think Bodi is the only place that might still have this service, but only one or two girls can do it.

This new sauna just opened up in Yangpu district. Not only does it have the red rope service, it is probably the cheapest sauna I've come across. 498 rmb for 60 minutes FS without soapy massage, 598 rmb for 90 minutes FS with soapy. They also have overnight service for 1800 rmb which is very uncommon for a sauna. So if you factor in the cost for a girl and a room for the night, this is a bargain, just don't expect room service.

Warning: This is a brand new place so keep a few things in mind. 1. The selection stage is still under construction as of yesterday, 2. Number of girls in the 20's compared to other saunas 50's, 3. Although it's in a green zone, Yangpu, this place is new so we do not know the backing of this new establishment, safety is still a concern.

PM for location and contact number.

Fast Eddie 48
06-01-16, 22:49
Red Rope used to be rather popular years ago, then it kind of disappeared. I think Bodi is the only place that might still have this service, but only one or two girls can do it.

This new sauna just opened up in Yangpu district. Not only does it have the red rope service, it is probably the cheapest sauna I've come across. 498 rmb for 60 minutes FS without soapy massage, 598 rmb for 90 minutes FS with soapy. They also have overnight service for 1800 rmb which is very uncommon for a sauna. So if you factor in the cost for a girl and a room for the night, this is a bargain, just don't expect room service.

Warning: This is a brand new place so keep a few things in mind. 1. The selection stage is still under construction as of yesterday, 2. Number of girls in the 20's compared to other saunas 50's, 3. Although it's in a green zone, Yangpu, this place is new so we do not know the backing of this new establishment, safety is still a concern.

PM for location and contact number.To Arizona.

Red rope is a lost art is was offer by some sauna in Jakarta try it a few month ago not where near the service you get in China, the shanghai hotel have the best I ever try back in 2004 cost is 750 rmb then and I have try red rope and black rope in Zhu Hai and Dogguan city the girl are not expert they only do it for 5 min on BBBJ no touching not like the old days the whole FS the girl is on the rope with many different positions.

Fast Eddie 48.

SamCan
06-02-16, 00:15
Hi all,


I know we are about finding the "best value for the money" but like the old saying "what you pay is what you get" especially if it is not within a controlled environment.

Any however, I am Banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside) expat living in Shanghai. Anyone need any recommendation let me know. Glad to help.Been there, , I landed a massage girl that would come to my room for 1000 all night. I also ended up paying her 500 for a quick pop in my room when I didn't want the company all night. She got less and less fun with more excuses on leaving. I probably had her come to my room 5 times. The last 2 were not worth it.

I just stopped calling her and moved on. She texted me for months, "when you come back to shanghai? " funny part I was already there.

My suggestion is move on bro. As an expat banana, you have the best of all worlds, you can keep hunting and be more and more picky. I am bald 50 and a tad overweight I speak some chinese but wiish I knew more. I never had to compromise. Did I have some bad experiences some times? Heck ya. Did I have girls on the phone after I came? Yup. I just moved on to better ones.

SHAExpat
06-02-16, 04:11
Been there, , I landed a massage girl that would come to my room for 1000 all night. I also ended up paying her 500 for a quick pop in my room when I didn't want the company all night. She got less and less fun with more excuses on leaving. I probably had her come to my room 5 times. The last 2 were not worth it.

I just stopped calling her and moved on. She texted me for months, "when you come back to shanghai? " funny part I was already there.

My suggestion is move on bro. As an expat banana, you have the best of all worlds, you can keep hunting and be more and more picky. I am bald 50 and a tad overweight I speak some chinese but wiish I knew more. I never had to compromise. Did I have some bad experiences some times? Heck ya. Did I have girls on the phone after I came? Yup. I just moved on to better ones.Hi SamCan,

Sorry to hear about that. I have moved on, of course sometimes in the back of my head I wish I would just nail her 1 more time and then tell her to F off. Anyways, I have been recently checking out massage places, not saunas. There was one near Shuidian Road and HuaYuan Road in Puxi, where it is 300 RMB for FS. Girls are about a 5 to 7 (but good value). Good massage but also depending on the on girl how well the ending would be. I tried going there about a week ago but it was closed down. From the looks of it, I believe they moved to a new location (I will check). I haven't been to any saunas recently as the price has sky rocket. Now in Saunas they categorize the girls in alphabets (I. E. A, B, S, T) The A's are about 900 RMB for 90 minutes, S's and T's ranges from 1600 RMB to 2500 RMB. Are you kidding me! Anyways, if I find any good places I will report back to everyone.

Good hunting.

Ikksman
06-02-16, 09:42
I realized my error shortly after my post. This confrontation and mood changer could have been avoided. All I had to do was ask her to put her phone in airplane mode when she entered the room. I normally do this especially with new girls I can't depend on to be considerate. If she gave me a hard time all I had to say was, "baby, please do this for me or I am not going to be able to fully relax. " This would have been so much easier than depending on her to control her urges to respond to the incoming text. I would suggest you guys do the same if this bothers you as much as it does me.In many cases, separating a girl from her cell phone is akin to asking her to cut her hand off.

I used to use a low power phone jammer (about 5 m radius). If you buy a more powerful unit, then multiple complaints from guests in other rooms may cause an wanted interruption to your fun (could even be injurious to your well-being).

These devices will even work where multiple frequencies are used. And yes, they are extremely effective with LTE services. Plenty of technical details are available on the internet and are readily available on-line.

Ikksman.

P.S. If you were feeling nasty, for less than $1,000 you could totally knock out an LTE base station serving 1,000's of users (particularly if that Telco had mothballed its 2 G and 3 G services). It is an unfortunate facet of the LTE design that it is extremely vulnerable to various types of attacks. Or, using a power amplifier you could take down the entire 4 G network. It is believed that a number of recent network failures (not in China) were caused by these types of attacks. What fun!

P. P.S. I have spoken to a number of manufacturers in China but typically Chinese companies / governments ignore or cover up problems until a disaster occurs.

Nemo798
06-03-16, 04:49
Man,

I'm so depressed. I just moved to Shanghai, hoping to be able to visit some of the amazing MP's near Anyuan Lu. They used to do 200 for full and an extra hundred for BBJ. Now. All the MP's along Anyuan Lu between Jiaozhou Lu and Changping Lu have been closed.

Where have all the cheap sexy ladies gone? Anyone know any good MP areas. I hear Shaanxi Beilu is a good spot.

Tightway
06-04-16, 09:20
I stayed at The Courtyard by Marriott on Hengfend for 2 nights. The second night I was walking in front of my hotel when a lady asked me if wanted company because she had girls. I asked her for pictures with their stomachs uncovered and she replies"she come now, 5 minutes. " I had difficulty talking with her so I walked on. BTW I had no intention of picking up a girl for sex. I was just taking a walk to get something to eat. I saw two women walking on the sidewalk near the front of a hotel only 2 more minutes down the sidewalk. The one looks back and I can tell they are hookers. I say "Hi" and chat a little on the sidewalk and she has good English. She wants 200 usd. We agree on 1000 cny. I told her I needed BBBJ. I could tell by the way she answered she would do BB sex. BTW I have never had sex with a Chinese hooker. The timing was perfect as it was only 8 pm on my final night.

Back in the room all is well (at least in the beginning). She takes her clothes off and looks nice. We take a shower together. She gives me an average BBBJ but I was satisfied. I put her in missionary and started rubbing her clit BB. I told her I want 15 minutes of sex, would cum, then take a shower, and then we could go for a second round. 2 hours max I told her. BB sex was good and at 15 minutes I cum and all is well. I take a shower and afterward she gives me a nice 15 minute full body massage. It wasn't profession but enough to relax me. She gives me a 5 minute BBBJ and I am back hard again. Less than a minute before I was ready for a second round she receives a text...I suspect she has a rich BF and must keep him happy by texting him when he sends a message, or he will get suspicious, and may already be so.

If she hadn't texted him, he would have called.

I can understand that you got angry, because you don't feel valued as a person like that.

But from her point of view she'd rather risk only taking 500 than loosing her BF.

This is just my assessment of the situation.

Chuday
06-04-16, 10:26
Recently I was in Shanghai for business. Due to time shortage did not have time to check ISG. Went in blind and was focusing on work and less on pleasure. Now I regret.

Anyways. Stayed at the Shanghai Marriott Hotel City Centre. Walking down the street from the hotel you will see many massage parlors. I tried one expecting only a massage. Price on the chart was CNY 250 but reduced it to 200 when I was about to walk away. Picked the service provider of my choice. Went inside the room and the girl (mid 20's) gave me a disposable under wear and was offered a shower. After I was all settled in, the lady started to give me a back massage using some form of cheap oil. Anyways, after she reached my lower back area, she pulled the under wear down a bit and started going very close to my ass. A few minutes later, she took the underwear away completely and I was surprised. Still I kept my mouth shut, dick hard and enjoyed.

About 15 minutes later and some close massages in my crotch area she motioned me to roll over (I do not speak or understand chinese & she spoke very few words of english). By this time, my dick was rock hard. She started off on my chest and quickly went over to my dick and started to give me a hand job. I got more excited and started to touch her body and my hand eventually went over to my boobs (with her clothes on). She stopped me when I put my hands under her tshirt and just said No. After a couple of minutes I tried again and this time she did not say anything. Small breasts. Firm. A little fat in the belly area. I wanted to suck but she would not. Signaling that there are people outside the door. I did not push my luck. Just took the HJ and smiled.

I wanted to return back but was too busy. They are open late in the night. I also tried another massage place in a nearby hotel with similar experience but had to pay extra. Later that week a friend told me that all massage places with purple lights indicate hanky panky with more than massage.

SHtraveller
06-06-16, 09:59
Hi guys,

Have not been to SH for years now and planning a trip to SH now:

- Does anyone know if the Sauna in 6 F of Najing Xi Lu 580 (above the fake market) is still open? I read that they might have closed.

- I also read about some recommendations about the Peabody Bodi Sauna and thought about staying at the Bodi Botique Hotel to have quick access. But I also read that the hotel's location is very bad. In the middle of nowhere. Is that true?

- So my alternate plan was to stay at the Shanghai Hotel, but I read that the sauna has closed also. Damn things change fast here.

Does anyone have a recommendation to a good sauna (good variety of girls, nuru or Soapy available & within the area of the Hilton)?

Prices should be around RMB 1. 000 / session not too much more.

Thanks a lot in advance!

NorthSouth
06-06-16, 13:32
There might not be that much sauna action near Hilton with the crackdown in JingAn and closing of Kang Ding, but you have pick up bars like Judy and Manhattan close by.

If you want to stick with saunas, the former manager of Kang Ding has a new place near Shanghai Swimming Center. It is a little bite more expensive than Kang Ding. Bodi might not be that bad a hike, You can take Line 2 from JingAn Temple towards Pudong Airport, and get off at Century Park (8 stops) and then take a taxi. But subway will stop running before 11 PM. There are also SiYuan and Sacrosa in the Century Avenue area. Redhouse and Baliya are not that far away from Hilton by taxi. All are within 1000 rmb range.

Johnia32
06-06-16, 16:03
Just went to get a massage at my usual place in the alley next to the Shanghai Hilton. I do not read Chinese, but it had a faded sign above the doorway that said Royal Massage. It is just past JB massage.

Tonight, there was a different sign and the door was open (usually it is locked until someone comes to open). It had in English "Qing Blind Massage". I did not go in. Looks like they have changed. Has anyone had a massage there since the name change?

Stegram
06-06-16, 18:27
Weird that it's in the middle of nowhere right in the middle of the city. Getting a cab can take 10-15 minutes.

If you walk out the door and turn left, go about 500 meters and go up the stairs to the overpass road and turn left, and then turn left at the first major street, there's a row of stores and restaurants. That's about a 15 minute walk.


Hi guys,

Have not been to SH for years now and planning a trip to SH now:

- Does anyone know if the Sauna in 6 F of Najing Xi Lu 580 (above the fake market) is still open? I read that they might have closed.

- I also read about some recommendations about the Peabody Bodi Sauna and thought about staying at the Bodi Botique Hotel to have quick access. But I also read that the hotel's location is very bad. In the middle of nowhere. Is that true?

- So my alternate plan was to stay at the Shanghai Hotel, but I read that the sauna has closed also. Damn things change fast here.

Does anyone have a recommendation to a good sauna (good variety of girls, nuru or Soapy available & within the area of the Hilton)?

Prices should be around RMB 1. 000 / session not too much more.

Thanks a lot in advance!

SHtraveller
06-07-16, 10:39
Thanks a lot for your help and the information.

Regarding Bodi Botique Hotel I found many testimonials that say that the hotel is in the middle of nowhere. Obviously is not.

So it might be a good choice to have an all-in-one package.

I loved the sauna in Nanjing Xi Lu 580 even if the facilities were old, but they always had a good choice of girls I like.

Also it was nice to have a little chitchat with a girl I know from a HanCity booth (a real cutie. I dated her several times).

I suppose the sauna is closed now?

I am not so much into the pick-up bars, as I prefer Chinese girls rather than Southeastasians.

Does anyone know a BJ-Bar like the infamous ZY-Bar many years ago? Is there anything like that?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Tazman099
06-07-16, 14:54
The Bodi is not in the middle of nowhere, however compared to Jing'an, it might as well be. It is for sure not in the center of the city. It is definitely not convenient like the city center where you can find just about anything you want (not referring to mongering) within a short walk.

I have a couple sauna contacts in the city (for clarity, I try to avoid the city center like the plague), if you have wechat, drop me a pm and I'll gladly share.

Taz.


Thanks a lot for your help and the information.

Regarding Bodi Botique Hotel I found many testimonials that say that the hotel is in the middle of nowhere. Obviously is not.

So it might be a good choice to have an all-in-one package.

I loved the sauna in Nanjing Xi Lu 580 even if the facilities were old, but they always had a good choice of girls I like.

Also it was nice to have a little chitchat with a girl I know from a HanCity booth (a real cutie. I dated her several times).

I suppose the sauna is closed now?

I am not so much into the pick-up bars, as I prefer Chinese girls rather than Southeastasians.

Does anyone know a BJ-Bar like the infamous ZY-Bar many years ago? Is there anything like that?

Thanks a lot in advance!

NorthSouth
06-07-16, 15:30
It is located in Pudong, surrounded by mid brow residential developments, without close access to shopping and dining establishments. There are not much foot traffics around the hotel, even during the day. You have to take a taxi to go to the subway stations, and to the business districts of Pudong. If you are in SHA for business. It is definitely not convenient, but room rates are cheaper, especially compared to Hilton.

Jude Bright
06-07-16, 15:53
It is located in Pudong, surrounded by mid brow residential developments, without close access to shopping and dining establishments. There are not much foot traffics around the hotel, even during the day. You have to take a taxi to go to the subway stations, and to the business districts of Pudong. If you are in SHA for business. It is definitely not convenient, but room rates are cheaper, especially compared to Hilton.Actually, it is relative convenient for travelers to Pudong airport. You can take the maglev train to the terminal, and take a taxi to the Bodi hotel within 30 to 40 minutes, have fun and come back within a few hours. I have done once when I have a about 4 hours between my flight.

Jb.

Jimmy420
06-08-16, 03:00
Gentlemen,

I'm going to Shanghai on a business trip on June 28. This will be my first visit to China so I don't know much about the mongering scene there. What are some of the popular mongering spots I can visit during my stay there?

I am interested in escorts as well. If you know any girls or a reliable escort service please do let me know.

AndyTime
06-08-16, 06:06
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Marty47
06-08-16, 14:11
PM me and tell me about yourself and I will advise you.


Gentlemen,

I'm going to Shanghai on a business trip on June 28. This will be my first visit to China so I don't know much about the mongering scene there. What are some of the popular mongering spots I can visit during my stay there?

I am interested in escorts as well. If you know any girls or a reliable escort service please do let me know.

Fast Eddie 48
06-08-16, 20:26
It is located in Pudong, surrounded by mid brow residential developments, without close access to shopping and dining establishments. There are not much foot traffics around the hotel, even during the day. You have to take a taxi to go to the subway stations, and to the business districts of Pudong. If you are in SHA for business. It is definitely not convenient, but room rates are cheaper, especially compared to Hilton.To NorthSouth.

Bodi is near the SNEIC convention center near the Huamu metro station line 7 bodi is middle of no where in the new Pudong area, I was at the CES convention a last month only take 10 min by taxi or about 15 min walk.

Fast Eddie 48.

NorthSouth
06-08-16, 23:56
You must be really be a Fast Eddie if it took you 15 min to walk when it was 10 min away by taxi.

Where in my post did I say Bodi is in New Pudong? I said it was surrounded by residential apartment blocks and not commercial establishments for shopping and dining. So the hotel might not be a good place to stay, only to visit and play.

The closest metro station may be the Shanghai Children Hospital with line 7 (but the taxi has to go a long way past Bodi before it can make a U turn and come back to Bodi on the other side of the road). But if someone comes from Hilton in JingAn, the direct ride without switching train is line 2 and getting off in Century Park, (and the taxi does not have to make any you turn) . Go look at Baidu map.

Marelobo Mex
06-10-16, 03:00
She keeps typing and I told her I was serious. She comes closer to the bed and I tell her to stop typing. She keeps typing. I tell her how rude it is to stop having sex to have a conversation on her phone. She just keeps typing. I told her if she doesn't stop in the next 10 second I am giving her 500 and kicking her out. She continues and I scream at her to get out. All this time I am injecting small hints to stop texting followed by firm statements. 30 seconds later she stops and says sorry. I told her to put her clothes on and get out. I told her she had a choice to make (and she made it) and the mood had changed and we were done. She put her clothes on. I put 500 on the bed and she asked for 100 more which I gave her. WTF,

There are all different ways to handle this. I understand why you did what you did and would likely have handled it in a similar way.

You were paying for a service and that didn't included being interrupted by cell phone communications. I especially understand if you have had bad experiences before like this.

While there are a thousand legitimate reasons she might have done what she did. It was bad behavior from your perspective and there is certainly no need to reward bad behavior, especially when you are the customer.

MM.

Marelobo Mex
06-10-16, 03:08
Posting this summary report and putting everything in one FP.

I have a detail trip report of my adventures, and would be happy to share by posting it. It would take up a page in the forum, let me know if there is interest.

I start out my adventure seeking young college age girls who are spinner thin and have small tits.

I will rate each session as;.

Repeat: yes.

Repeat: could but prefer sampling a new girl.

Repeat: no.

Day 1 Session 1: Dong Guan Sauna.

I ask for a girl who is 20 or younger. Guy suggest A12 and says she is 19.

I see M28 from my prior visit, smiling happily at me.

19 seems too much for me to pass up so I select A12.

English Skills: Decent.

Girl: A12.

City Harbin.

Age: 25.

Height: 5 feet 2 inches.

Spinner: No.

Tits: see cups and soft.

Stomach: Small and soft squishy.

Ass: Firm.

Thighs: Firm.

Face: Plain & too much make up, and shaved eyebrows and drawn them in.

Hair: Beautiful long thick hair (Her best feature).

Pussy: Average size, but very loose.

Blow Job: Good, only get 4 inches deepthroat.

Riding CG: 10 minutes until tired.

Moaning: Fake noises.

Sex: 20 minutes average.

1st Orgasm: Cum on her face.

Rest time: We talk and she can read english, she is not hot enough to grope.

2nd Orgasm: Didn't happen pussy to loose and not attractive enough girl.

Repeat: No.

Price: 1000.

I wait an hour and say the other girl was not 19. They apologize and offer me 2 girls who they say are 21.

One has huge tits and one has small tits, I opt for the small tit girl.

Day 1 Session 2: Dong Guan Sauna.

English Skills: None.

Girl: M05.

City: Jiangsu.

Age: 24.

Height: 5 feet 7 inches.

Spinner: Yes.

Tits: Perfect A cups with large sexy nipples, but soft to touch.

Stomach: Perfect flat but soft.

Ass: Small but soft.

Face: Pretty and no make up, perfect for licking.

Hair: Bobby pinned up, doesn't look that good.

Pussy: Average size, nice tight pussy.

Blow Job: Very Good, 6 inches deep throat.

Riding CG: 15 mintues until tired.

Moaning: Real sex noises.

Sex: 10 minutes as struggling not to cum, and she is squezzing her pussy agressively.

1st Orgasm: Missionary.

Rest time: Does not allow groping, did a poor massage.

2nd Orgasm: Doggy laying on top.

Repeat: Could but prefer sampling new girl.

Price: 1400.

Day 2 Session 1: Dong Guan Sauna (room temperature too hot).

English Skills: Limited, knows a few words.

Girl: A31.

City: Sichan.

Age: 19.

Height: 5 feet 2 inches.

Spinner: Yes.

Tits: Perfect A cups, but soft to touch.

Stomach: Pefect firm flat stomach.

Ass: Small, but a little soft.

Face: Pretty little make up.

Hair: Ugly, she has a hair weave in it, and it looks bad.

Pussy: Small, but not tight.

Blow Job: Average.

Riding CG: 20 minutes until she get tired.

Moaning: Mostly quiet.

Sex: First time too hot, second time came right away.

1st Orgasm: Happened while licking my balls.

Rest time: Allowed groping, enjoyed talking.

2nd Orgasm: Doggy laying on top.

Repeat: Could but prefer sampling new girl.

Price: 1000.

Day 3 Session 1: Escort from SNG.

English Skills: None, but we can use her phone.

Girl: Tessa.

City: Jiangsu.

Age: 23.

Height: 5 feet 3 inches.

Spinner: Just a little bigger.

Tits: Perfect small be cups, but a little soft.

Stomach: Small firm stomach.

Thighs: Muscular and firm.

Face: Pretty and little make up.

Hair: Soft long hair, but dyed brown.

Pussy: Small tight pussy.

Blow Job: Good, except when she flutter her tongue long my dickhead.

Riding CG: Short as I keep stopping her so I don't cum.

Moaning: Real sex noises.

Sex: 30 minutes because we try to do anal.

1st Orgasm: Doggy laying on top.

Rest time: None, all spent in shower.

Repeat: Could but prefer sampling new girl.

Price: 1700.

Sex was good, but rest of session was not.

Booked 1 hour session, she stayed 1 hour 20 minutes.

5 minutes chatting by phone.

20 minutes shower.

30 minutes sex.

20 minutes shower.

5 minutes get dressed and leave.

She did a major inspection of my dick, more doctors office than escort.

She made a huge mess in bathroom with water everywhere, I had to clean up after she left.

She used almost all the shampoo and body wash, I had to put the caps on after she left.

20 minutes for each shower seemed intentionally slow.

She took time to polish her shoes after the shower.

Although the session was supposed to include Anal.

She put her finger in her ass.

She put my finger in her ass.

We tried 8 times and couldn't get my dick in her ass.

That might be my fault as I have never successfully done anal.

Day 3 Session 2: SNG Guided Nightlife tour (room temperature too hot).

English Skills: None.

Girl: B186.

City: Sichan.

Age: 18.

Height: 5 feet 2 inches.

Spinner: Yes.

Tits: Perky Firm A cups.

Stomach: Perfect firm flat stomach.

Ass: Perfect firm ass.

Thigh: skinny and firm.

Face: Pretty, little make up, discoloration on two front teeth, has some mongolian or uighar in her.

Hair: Medium lenght light brown dye job, soft hair.

Pussy: Small tight pussy.

Blow Job: Average, 4 inches in deep throat.

Riding CG: Short as I keep stopping her so I don't cum.

Moaning: Real sex noises.

Sex: I pick her up and fuck her standing up while holding her and then leaning her against the wall.

1st Orgasm: start on her side and then move to missionary.

Rest time: Allowed groping, and intersted in looking at phrase book.

2nd Orgasm: Doggy laying on top.

Repeat: Yes.

Price:800.

Tout and manager of sauna is attractive lady, I was surprised by that.

Sauna in old building not nice bathroom, but didn't go for facilities.

She was the best session, the cheapest session, and the only one I want to repeat with.

She said I was the first foreigner she had been intimate with.

Day 3 Session 3: SNG Guided Nightlife tour.

English Skills: None.

Girl: A501.

City: Hangzhou in Zhejiang.

Age: 25.

Height: 5 feet 3 inches.

Spinner: No.

Tits: Small be Cups, soft and partiall deflated.

Stomach: Small and soft.

Ass: Small and soft.

Face: Pretty, little make up, long sexy neck.

Hair: Shoulder length soft black.

Pussy: Large and tight.

Blow Job: Excellent and long.

Riding CG: Short as I don't' like looking at her tits or stomach and have her do RCG.

Moaning: Real sex noises.

Sex: pounding thrusting hard sex.

1st Orgasm: missionary.

Rest time: no groping, give bad massage.

2nd Orgasm: doggy laying on top.

Repeat: No.

Price: 1000.

Selection room had a glare making it hard to read the numbers.

Nice new building and facilities, had hot tub and TV and dresser.

Had mirrors above the bed, nice touch.

Did POV blow job.

Did skull fucking.

Wrap up.

I finished my work in China on this trip. I had fun, I wanted more of B186.

If I return I will post about my adventures.

Marelobo.

Swedish Dude
06-10-16, 05:59
Thanks for the report MareLobo Mex. Would love to try out B186. Will try to PM you for the location of that establishment, as soon as I get my membership approved. Paid two days ago, but have not got the rights yet.

SamCan
06-10-16, 10:27
Man! That is what I call a work week! Sounds like my idea of a good time. Glad the SNG tour worked out, I always thought about having Steven lead me through. I, however, not one for saunas. . Tend to enjoy the thrill of the hunt on the pick ups and judy's and manhattans.

SHtraveller
06-10-16, 11:03
WTF,

There are all different ways to handle this. I understand why you did what you did and would likely have handled it in a similar way.

You were paying for a service and that didn't included being interrupted by cell phone communications. I especially understand if you have had bad experiences before like this.

While there are a thousand legitimate reasons she might have done what she did. It was bad behavior from your perspective and there is certainly no need to reward bad behavior, especially when you are the customer.

MM.I really think this behavior is rude, but there might be other ways to solve them.

A few years ago I had an escort in my room and she did quite a good job but started taking phone calls in the middle of the second session.

She was giving me a BBBJ and picked up the phone while talking to someone; she continued sucking, stopped for answering and started again. I wonder if the person on the line knew why her speech was surrounded by smacky sounds.

I was pounding her doggy style when she picked up her phone for the second time. I slowed down, but when I imagined that the phone call would take longer I did not care and pounded her normally.

Some sort of a kinky experience to have audio-audience while having sex.

What I want to say is to make the best out of this unpleasant situation. Try to use your testosterone for the nice things in life. .

Bad Boy Billy
06-11-16, 00:13
Is it just a coincidence that a week after several less then positive posts about SNG that a poster appears with a very long extensive positive report on SNG? Call me cynical but terribly coincidental.

NorthSouth
06-11-16, 02:36
I do not do take out from SNG. I am not a subscriber of the site. I was actually on the receiving end of a swipe from Steven a few months back when he misread one of my posts as a slight of him. But I think you may be a little too cynical if you suspect Marelobo's long post was a fake tout for SNG. I think Mex is a foreign business visitor (Mex for Mexican?) He had many earlier posts about mongering in Mexico and Brazil. I did not read his latest report in detail, as it was again too long, but I did not quite see him shilling for Steven or SNG.

Carage
06-11-16, 03:41
The Bodi is not in the middle of nowhere, however compared to Jing'an, it might as well be. It is for sure not in the center of the city. It is definitely not convenient like the city center where you can find just about anything you want (not referring to mongering) within a short walk.

I have a couple sauna contacts in the city (for clarity, I try to avoid the city center like the plague), if you have wechat, drop me a pm and I'll gladly share.

Taz.It is near a highway intersection and not a lot of taxi traffic or nearby businesses, I think that is considered middle of nowhere in Shanghai.

It is possible to walk to JinXiu Road Station (Line 7) in about 15 minutes provided you know which direction you are going and walk pass several large residential neighborhoods.

Fast Eddie 48
06-11-16, 21:46
You must be really be a Fast Eddie if it took you 15 min to walk when it was 10 min away by taxi.

Where in my post did I say Bodi is in New Pudong? I said it was surrounded by residential apartment blocks and not commercial establishments for shopping and dining. So the hotel might not be a good place to stay, only to visit and play.

The closest metro station may be the Shanghai Children Hospital with line 7 (but the taxi has to go a long way past Bodi before it can make a U turn and come back to Bodi on the other side of the road). But if someone comes from Hilton in JingAn, the direct ride without switching train is line 2 and getting off in Century Park, (and the taxi does not have to make any you turn) . Go look at Baidu map.To North South.

Why you never heard of traffic jam In Shanghai sometime is faster to walk just after CES trade show is out the traffic is so bad I could of just walk to Bodi.

Fast Eddie 48.

NorthSouth
06-14-16, 14:13
By comparing apples and oranges. How about comparing driving time during a traffic jam in Shanghai and walking time during the Hajj in Mecca?

Actually, he was wrong (deliberately) even when he was trying to confusticate : the drive time between SNEIC Convention Center and Bodi is 10 to 12 minutes under NORMAL driving condition (Baidu and Bing) The distance between the two places is 6. 6 km or 3. 9 miles. Walking time according to Bing and Baidu is 40 or 49 minutes. To cover that distance on foot in 15 minutes, you have to run 4 minute mile all the way. Fail!!

Stegram
06-14-16, 18:09
By comparing apples and oranges. How about comparing driving time during a traffic jam in Shanghai and walking time during the Hajj in Mecca?

Actually, he was wrong (deliberately) even when he was trying to confusticate : the drive time between SNEIC Convention Center and Bodi is 10 to 12 minutes under NORMAL driving condition (Baidu and Bing) The distance between the two places is 6. 6 km or 3. 9 miles. Walking time according to Bing and Baidu is 40 or 49 minutes. To cover that distance on foot in 15 minutes, you have to run 4 minute mile all the way. Fail!!NS. What is the distance from the Longyang Subway (next to the Maglev Station) to Bodi? It seems shorter than 6 km.

Ealier someone had suggested taking the Maglev from the airport to Longyang Station and then a taxi to Bodi.

I have tried to get a taxi from the Maglev station on many occasions. The abandoned cab line is full of rip off cars that want 200 RMB and real taxis won't take you unless you are going some distance. Even after being offered 50 RMB for a 10 minute ride. I've had to drag suitcases to a nearby hotel (Jumeriah. A pretty long walk with 2 suitcases) to get a short distance cab out of there.

Beijing4987
06-14-16, 21:26
I get in a metered cab first, then tell the driver where to go. Just refuse to get out if he makes a fuss. That will not work with a gypsy cab. He will forcibly drag you out. The DiDi kuai DiDi further complicates even finding a Chinese cab that will stop anymore. Please, let's help each other navigate and not argue about trivial matters.

Stegram
06-14-16, 22:12
I get in a metered cab first, then tell the driver where to go. Just refuse to get out if he makes a fuss. That will not work with a gypsy cab. He will forcibly drag you out. The DiDi kuai DiDi further complicates even finding a Chinese cab that will stop anymore. Please, let's help each other navigate and not argue about trivial matters.My last try at getting a genuine cab was met with a locked door and a driver who wouldn't unlock it until he knew where I was going. I guess I could have lied and then changed my mind once inside.

Now I just take a cab from the airport all the way in. It's more money and time but way less aggravation. The maglev is good for going to the airport, however, so it's only coming from that is of issue.

Red Rider
06-15-16, 01:44
When you arrive at the Longyang station from the airport, at the bottom of the escalator turn left to go to the legitimate taxi queue. I've never had a problem with a driver there refusing a ride.

If you turn right at the bottom of the escalator you will end up outside where the fake or gypsy taxis line up. They want 300 for a ride to the Bund (should be about 50 or 60).

Beijing4987
06-15-16, 01:47
For cheapskates like me the #2 bus from the airport to Jingan from Pudong can't be beat at 22 rmb. Only 45 minutes to the Nanjing road terminal, very close to the Temple. On the main subject of ISG, finding women to have sex with, a true gem has returned to Shanghai at a Changshou Rd Spa.

SHtraveller
06-15-16, 09:09
For cheapskates like me the #2 bus from the airport to Jingan from Pudong can't be beat at 22 rmb. Only 45 minutes to the Nanjing road terminal, very close to the Temple. On the main subject of ISG, finding women to have sex with, a true gem has returned to Shanghai at a Changshou Rd Spa.Hi Beijing!

Thanks for your recommendation. Do you mean the Qian Shui Wan Leisure Club (Changshou Road Branch) in 4/ F, Century Business Building, 99 Changshou Road?

The HappyMassage-Site says that they offer HJ, B2 B, etc. But there is nothing about full service.

Could you give some more details on the SPA?

Thanks a lot!

NorthSouth
06-15-16, 12:06
The distance between Longyang station (metro or Maglev, which are next to each other) to Bodi is 2. 6 miles: 35 min on foot or 8-9 min driving .

If you are a foreigner, getting off the Maglev, and struggling with 2 suitcases, you are a ripe target for rip off by the taxi drivers. The Maglev fare is 50 to 100 rmb one way from Pudong Airport, and 5 rmb if you take line 2 and get off at the Longyang metro station, so they think you got bills in your pocket if you take the Maglev.

If you are looking for a nice convenient place to stay, you can look at either Sofitel (you get off at the Nanjing Road East Station on line 2 and it is only a couple of blocks from the metro station in the famous and busy pedestrian mall. Nice hotel, nice breakfast, about 720-900 rmb a night on random check on C-trip. Just do not engage with any tout outside) or Paramount, Equatorial or Hilton further down in JingAn with metro line 2). You go and settle in the hotel first and then go out unencumbered to play.

If one thinks setting straight the difference between a 15 minutes walk and 40-49 minute walk is trivial argument, one is entitled to his opinion, but that is part of helping to navigate. You do not assume it is a close walk and end up on foot alongside the elevated highway with little pedestrian traffic or much else, for close to an hour.

Given the reckless driving of most taxi drivers, potential rip off and often poor attitude, I do not take taxi in Shanghai as a rule. I take the metro and perhaps connect further by city bus (the buses are actually not bad, and they have station information both by voice and on a flashing board, in Chinese and English.). I will definitely walk if it is only 15 -20 minutes away.

Sinofaguo
06-15-16, 14:41
If you are a foreigner, getting off the Maglev, and struggling with 2 suitcases, you are a ripe target for rip off by the taxi drivers. The Maglev fare is 50 to 100 rmb one way from Pudong Airport, and 5 rmb if you take line 2 and get off at the Longyang metro station, so they think you got bills in your pocket if you take the Maglev.

If you are looking for a nice convenient place to stay, you can look at either Sofitel (you get off at the Nanjing Road East Station on line 2 and it is only a couple of blocks from the metro station in the famous and busy pedestrian mall. Nice hotel, nice breakfast, about 720-900 rmb a night on random check on C-trip. Just do not engage with any tout outside) or Paramount, Equatorial or Hilton further down in JingAn with metro line 2). You go and settle in the hotel first and then go out unencumbered to play.No offense but I don't get the rational of telling people not to take the MAGLEV to stay away from getting scammed by drivers. Only to tell them to take a hotel on Nanjing East Road (the tourists hub) at the one place in Shanghai where the concentration of scams is the highest:

- Fake art galeries.

- Tea ceremony scams.

- Girls approaching you for language and cultural exchange in a scamming bar.

- Lady massage & KTV touts at night.

- Fake taxis with inflated prices on the junction between East / West Nanjing.


MAGLEV, just like the airport has a legit line for taxis where I never had any problems taking one, and another spot where scammers wait for lost tourists. Its true everywhere in China and not just for foreigners but for non local chinese too. Just stay away from them when they ask you if you want to go for a set price.

Moreover if you don't trust taxis use APP. You can use uber in your home language and book a "People Republic of Uber" / Uber POP local driver. They can't scam you since you pay through uber and the route is traced by the app. If you get scammed a simple complaint to uber will get the route examined and the fee reimbursed to you. Most of the time its cheaper than taxis, up to 50 % cheaper on short itineraries. There are uber drivers everywhere on the map... more than taxis and even taxis start using it these days.

Tazman099
06-15-16, 15:10
I hope this has run its course, or should the name of this website change?

BTW, bodi is easy enough to find with any map app (unlike many saunas) - if someone can't figure out that it's not in the middle of anything. Well, they probably shouldn't be using this site anyway (there is an age restriction after all.).

Pardon my frankness.

Taz.

NorthSouth
06-15-16, 15:13
I mentioned the hotel in Nanjing Road East because it is a two blocks walk from the metro station of line 2 , and is a direct shoot from the airport. I said it is a nice hotel to stay in, which it is and you can take line 2, line 10,or walk over to People Square station, where is a major transfer hub. Ypu can pretty much get to anywhere in the city from that area with public transportation and not taxi.

I specifically cautioned against engaging with any touts and scammers in the area. You do not play there. You are just going to stay in a hotel that is nice, secure and easy to get to and around, and not expensive. From that base you can go to play pretty much in all corners of the city. I stayed there before, and I never got taken because I did RRTF ( just like you did not get rip off near Maglev when others did)

Stegram
06-16-16, 01:07
No offense but I don't get the rational of telling people not to take the MAGLEV to stay away from getting scammed by drivers.Granted it's been a couple of years and things in the back may have changed. But the last time I tried this, the back area where the legit cab stand used to be was all construction. I speak Chinese and I've been to Shanghai 20 times so I am not a tourist. Regardless, at that time, I was f'd and faced a a long March on a hot day dragging my luggage.

If things remain as they did at that time, a non-chinese speaking guy with a 4 hour layover trying to get to Bodi for a quicky is going to be f'd based on the advice I had given on here years ago.

If the legit cab stand has been made operational again, then all the better. But on my last attempt, it was a hole in the ground. THAT is the rational of telling people not to take the Maglev to get to Bodi, since you asked.

SHAExpat
06-16-16, 02:49
Hello all,

Anyone recently have places they go that are good & safe? I cap "SAFE", because I have been hearing recent crackdowns of Sauna (FS). However, for the massage (HJ), it is blurring the line, so some are opened and some are closed.

Be safe everyone.

MongerBro
06-16-16, 08:18
Hello everyone,

I'm new here!

So I was searching for escort services online and I came across this site called "Rain in Shanghai".

Is it reliable? Has anyone here ever used their services before? Please let me know.

Sinofaguo
06-16-16, 14:18
If the legit cab stand has been made operational again, then all the better. It has yes. Construction work is usually rather fast in Shanghai.

Marty47
06-16-16, 14:52
It is legitimate. Ok service.


Hello everyone,

I'm new here!

So I was searching for escort services online and I came across this site called "Rain in Shanghai".

Is it reliable? Has anyone here ever used their services before? Please let me know.

MongerBro
06-16-16, 16:42
Thank you for your reply. Can you recommend me other escort service providers in Shanghai?


It is legitimate. Ok service.

Marelobo Mex
06-17-16, 06:10
Swedish, I will try to help you if I can.

Samcan, thanks for he comment, I also like the thrill of the hunt, but I was in China for work. Had limited time, limited language skills, and I really wanting a Chinese girl versus a Veit or Thai girl.

Bad Boy be, you are welcome to think whatever you want. I was simply trying to share information as I appreciated reading the information and this site is how I found SNG.

NorthSouth is basically correct. Sorry for the long posts, I tried to cut it down and only provide relevant information on the girls.

Bad Boy be not that it matters but I will share additional information.

I traveled to Mexico frequently between 2002 and 2007. Many of my posts are still on this board you can look at them yourself. On the Mexico board it was quite common to use the trip report style. I also found those reports the most valuable as guys detailed what they did right and what they did wrong. Yes, they were long but people like me who could not go frequently could live vicariously through other adventures.

In 2008 I changed jobs and traveled to Brazil in 2009 and back to Mexico in 2012. I also posted about those trips on this board.

I changed jobs again recently and had to take this trip to China.

This was my fifth trip to China over the last 20 years. During my second trip one of my Chinese colleagues introduced me to a 28 year old girl from Beijing who was interested in foreigners. We had more sex than rabbits do, and I figured it was a once in a lifetime adventure. Although I developed a healthy taste for Chinese pussy.

On my subsequent trips, I had no idea how to get girls or where to go. I did not do any research ahead of time, as these where short business trips. I did have girls approach me who where hot and could speak some English. I knew it was scam all along and avoided the scams, but left both times frustrated and horny.

On this trip I researched ahead of time on ISG and SNG. And I had a great time.

My personal opinions are SNG has a lot of valuable information. It is well worth the membership. And the guided tour was a good option for me, because my time is far more limited than my funds. If I was living in China I would not likely do many guided tours as I would learn to speak some Chinese and find my own way around.

Note of the three nights I reported about I only used SNG on the last night. The first two night I went out on my own.

As for SNG I have shared with them my thoughts about their site. I have given them numerous suggestions. A few they have taken, most have been ignored, and a few they did the opposite of what I suggested. I am ok with all those outcomes, as it is their site and they can do whatever they want. It makes no difference to me.

I don't have any trips planned back to China, but will look to enjoy reading about everyone else's fun until I have additional work there.

MM.

Five Aces
06-19-16, 02:41
On my last trip to Shanghai Malone's was still a gutted ruin. Is there any news about what it is going to be next?

Chuckle One
06-19-16, 10:39
On my last trip to Shanghai Malone's was still a gutted ruin. Is there any news about what it is going to be next?The Spot moved in to there.

TryingHard
06-19-16, 16:11
Hello mates,

I am wondering what is the reasonable price for the girl in Judy's and Manhattan?

Both ST and LT? I went there and the girl quoted me RMB 1500 for short time, but I didn't take it.

Anyone tried out?

I also heard there is a super curvy Colombian girl in Judy's.

What is her calling price?

Thanks.

TryingHard
06-19-16, 16:18
Hello mates,

Wondering how much price for girl in Judy's and Manhattan?

For both ST and LT.

I also heard there is a super curvy Colombian girl in Judy's these days.

What is her calling price?

Thanks.

The Guy
06-19-16, 19:44
Hello mates,

I am wondering what is the reasonable price for the girl in Judy's and Manhattan?

Both ST and LT? I went there and the girl quoted me RMB 1500 for short time, but I didn't take it.

Anyone tried out?

I also heard there is a super curvy Colombian girl in Judy's.

What is her calling price?

Thanks.1500st is definitely high end of scale. 1000 should certainly work. Some get much lower.

RainmanSahut
06-20-16, 01:08
Hello!

Manhattan girls start high.

LT should be no problem 1000 CNY.

ST should be 500 - 600 CNY.

Got to bargain.

Let them walk away.

They will come back.

Judy's runs a little higher.

I like Manhattan.

11 pm best time.

Rainman


1500st is definitely high end of scale. 1000 should certainly work. Some get much lower.

Levitian
06-20-16, 02:14
Thank you for your reply. Can you recommend me other escort service providers in Shanghai?SNG, Rain in Shanghai and Helen & Friends. There are certainly also others, just google Escort Shanghai, and you might find some more.

The pics of Helen's side are blurred, and the side hasn't been updated in a while.

Rain is authentic, and she has a wide range of girls. Most of them do not speak English, but I had some good experience.

SNG has been widely discussed here in this thread. I so far only made good experiences.

Lev.

WillBlak
06-21-16, 07:29
Was staying in a hotel for a few days near Xiupu Road, Pudong area. Felt I needed a release badly. The bad thing: None of the Google services work in China, which I was not aware before I landed (so no Chrome, no Google Maps, or even FB). Help came from unexpected side. While travelling in Taxi. These "colorful" visiting cards were stuck to the window sill. So when the taxi stopped while I had to dis-embark, I pulled those cards out. Once I was back to the hotel, called these nos. 1 by 1.and found few guys talking decent English. So asked them to send pics of the girls in WhatsApp (was working luckily, most of them asked for my WeChat. Which I never used).

Once I agreed on the girl (with no extras for taxi charges), was informed that the girl will arrive in 20 minutes. The deal was for a massage and FS for an hour.

She reached my hotel room in 30 mins, looked quite close to what photos were sent, young college going type iterative girl, but looked smaller in physique. I closed the door, and she put her handbag on the bed. While I sat on the bed she immediately came up to me and sat on my lap giving me a kiss. Hmm. Not bad for a starter.

Had general chit-chat for awhile, while I tested her English and she tested my Chinese. She said her name is Feifei. She had her hands on my thighs. And asked me to strip and lie down on the bed for a dry massage. She did a decent massage and later even climbed on top of me. She was indeed light weight!

During the massage she stripped off her bra, a tiny cup size. Like a teen's. Then she asked me to flip over and lie on my back. And she gave those accidental brushes to johny to stir it awake. She gave those tiny pecks on the cock-head. While she crossed my thighs to massage my shoulders. And in a while she took my semi-hard one in her mouth. And gave me a lovely BBJ with just the right lip and tongue pressure. She had a great technique and I was hard in the shortest time possible. I asked her for a 69, she turned around and asked me to take off her panties. All happened quick. She had those baby soft pubes and thin lips. Her BBJ skills were taking me the edge. But I held back.

Finally she tore off a rubber and slipped it on me and did a WOT. Praise the spring bed. The ride was smooth and in the right speed. Pulled her down to suck on her melons. And alternated with a DFK. She was moaning in my mouth. Or was it me in her mouth. I came within 2 minutes. Had few after-shock shivers. Kissed her a last time and then we had a quick short bath together. And off she went.

Damage: RMB600.

WillBlak
06-21-16, 08:13
After my 1st episode of success without Google search, I wanted this time to try a Massage with a happy ending (or more). In my earlier visits, I did have few good experiences although not more than a HJ in some other cities.

June 2016, had few rainy evenings. And I walked out with an umbrella on foot just to look around. There was a massage right next to my hotel (which I already tried a day before), but unfortunately they did only a professional massage with no hanky-panky involved. I thought my RMB110+ had gone for a waste with a massage over my clothes, but before I could feel the damage and crib. I was sleeping, yeah, the massage was painful, but I think my body needed that.

So as I walk in the slight drizzle, I saw a KTV bar with avg. Looking girls standing lined up on both sides of the door, I avoided going in, as I was told KTV's are a waste of money.

There ahead of me I saw a big English massage board in an arched fashion (again in Xiupu Road, Pudong area). The name means "look amazed open mouthed". It looked like a boutique store and my gut feeling said they surely have "it" here.

So while I folded my umbrella and entered in, a young man at the reception. Speaks to me in sign language. Hmm. So no English here. My luck!

He takes out his menu card. And points it at an item which reads RMB280, I make a questioning gesture as to what is included in that. He tells me in sign language. With his imaginary boobs crushing together (which meant B2B) and then shakes his fist up and down on this finger (which I took as HJ). Then he shows his finger in the mouth (I take it as BJ). Then he sort of warns me and makes a hole with one hand and puts his finger into it and says NO (or not allowed). Hmm so no fucking.

I take a look at a middle-aged slim woman looking at me from another room. She stands up and smiles at me. So she would be my therapist. I look for a choice. There is a slightly prettier and younger girl inside the room, but she is having her dinner. Too bad.

I am taken upstairs to an alley full of rooms on 1 side. Very dimly lit with an attached bath. I am ushered inside 1 of them, there's a bed with neatly folded sheets and towels.

The lady comes in behind me with her massage kit, locks the door. Keeps it on a nightstand and asks me to strip in gestures. For a moment I felt shy. Funny!

After I strip I am asked to take a shower, and then after that I lie down on the bed face down. She apples some lotion and starts her work on me. Starts from shoulder / neck. , back and my butts. She did a good massage no doubt (it was not painful like the other day). She takes of her dress (now only in panties) and does nice B2B, later she does some feather-touches on me. And I am sure I got goosebumps all over, even my butts too.

Then she asks me to part my thighs, she slides in her legs underneath me and does a balls massage from behind. My first time. And it felt really good. She would tug on my cock as well. Sort of pulling it or milking it. I was erect but not fully. Later she asks me to push myself back like a doggy bend, and while I did this. She started accessing my balls and cock in a better way. Then she started rimming me as well and I got my second goosebumps (this time a stronger flush). After like 4-5 minutes. She asked me to turn over.

Now facing down, she took hold of my cock and started sucking me with vigor as she caressed my balls. She was giving an excellent BBJ. I became hard in a sec. And she continued on my cock as if it's the last cock on earth. I thought I will come in her mouth if she goes on like this. I could feel my cum rising, almost there. Almost there. And then she stopped at the right moment. Phew!

She got up and came on the other side of the bed, this gave me enough time to cool off. She then held my cock, after she smeared dollops of cream in her hand and started giving me a slopping wet handjob. She would mostly play around my cock head and glans, and while she did this she was full time sucking my nipples, and flicking her tongue on my nipples. I was in heaven. She was moaning as part of arousing me more. I jerked my hips and spurted and spasmed. I shot my first load on my chest. Just close to her face, somewhere in between my nipples. A spurted few more. Her hands were still caressing my glans. And here lips were still latched on to my nipples. I subsided after 2 minutes or so to normal.

She smiled at me, and I smiled sheepishly back at her. And she pointed me towards the bath to clean myself off. I took another bath, dressed myself and went downstairs to the reception. Paid the guy, smiled and gave him a thumbs up! He smiled back and slightly bowed back at me.

Swedish Dude
06-21-16, 17:38
When I was in Shanghai last April, I picked up two black beauties at Judys. They told me they were sisters. (There was some resemblance Or how you spell it).

They agreed on 1000 each for ST (if you can call 3 hours ST).

Had good fun with them both.

Both of them were squirters, and I can tell you that the bed was so soaking afterwards, that it would probably had been drier to sleep in the shower.


Hello!

Manhattan girls start high.

LT should be no problem 1000 CNY.

ST should be 500 - 600 CNY.

Got to bargain.

Let them walk away.

They will come back.

Judy's runs a little higher.

I like Manhattan.

11 pm best time.

Rainman

Scoubidou
06-21-16, 20:06
Could you give us some more indications about the adress of this massage parlor?

Thanks.

SexInCity
06-21-16, 22:51
Rain is authentic, and she has a wide range of girls. Most of them do not speak English, but I had some good experience.

Lev.Do you remember names of girl who gave you such good experience? Thanks.

Apat5483
06-23-16, 03:41
Hello everyone,

I have a very short trip, may be two nights coming up this week end in Shanghai.

Would love to have FS with a slim Chinese girl. Need help with massage parlour which provide FS and are not too heavy on the pocket. How do I locate them?

I would also like WGs who have their own place or can come for ST in a cheaper hotel. Would not like to bring them in my hotel as its booked by the company. I would mostly be staying in a 5 star hotel. Shall provide the name as soon as its booked.

Levitian
06-23-16, 08:58
Do you remember names of girl who gave you such good experience? Thanks.I met Monica, Jia Jia and Lucy. Lucy apparently has left the stable, but many new girls have joined.

Try Rain's wechat, rainescort1001, more pics of the girls.

Lev.

SHAExpat
06-23-16, 11:06
Dear all,

Long time reader, but first time officially posting a report. Here it goes.

Deciding to get back into the game, I decide to a visit a old place that I frequent a lot for some oil massage (HJ and BJ). The only girl that was available was a bit too skinny but I figure "what the hell, it has been a while". We walk into a room no bigger than 7 to 10 sqm. I wouldn't say the environment is nice but it will do for the price. So standard process, of washing myself and then laying on the bed. At first, the girl was little shy didn't say to much but I though I should break the ice and try to make normal talk (how her day was, busy, and etc). The normal massage is nice about 30 minutes and then she puts oil on my ass (I am sleep on my stomach) and starts massaging my frank and beans. The feeling was great!! This was done about 10 more minutes and she used a hot towel to wipe me and asked me to turn around. Basically, you can imagine what is next, but I think because of her attitude and our talk, she let me go down on her and started to moan. I was grabbing a hand full of ass and tits. Afterwards, she started to give me BJ (not bad) and then went straight HJ. All this lasted about 10 mins. All I can try to think is "don't fucking blow it", but couldn't resist.

Location: Corner of An Yuan Road & Jiang Ni Road (there is a office building cross from it).

Name of place: There were no signs.

Environment: 5 out of 10.

Girl's looks: 6 out of 10 (about 158 cm height (but with high heels 160+cm, 40 ish kg weight, age 22, nice firm be size cup, with tattoos on forearm, thighs, butt, and back).

Girl 's attitude: 10 out of 10.

Girls that I saw in the hall: average of 5 out of 10 (difficult to say what age they are).

Damage to the wallet: 258 RMB.

Anyway, slowly getting back into the game so I will post more report when I can.

If any comments on posting better reports, please let me know.

Best regards.

Swedish Dude
06-23-16, 20:05
Read somewhere on this forum, that there are some pharmacies where you can buy the blue one without prescription. Tried 3 places with no luck.

Anyone know a place in Shanghai where you can buy those without too many questions?

Not possible for me to fix this at home, since the small town I live in is full of gossip, and doctor / patient confidentiality is nothing you can trust.

The missy could find out and start wondering why I'm not using them on her.

Feel free to PM me.

Apat5483
06-24-16, 19:05
Hello everyone,

I have a very short trip, may be two nights coming up this week end in Shanghai.

Would love to have FS with a slim Chinese girl. Need help with massage parlour which provide FS and are not too heavy on the pocket. How do I locate them?

I would also like WGs who have their own place or can come for ST in a cheaper hotel. Would not like to bring them in my hotel as its booked by the company. I would mostly be staying in a 5 star hotel. Shall provide the name as soon as its booked.Hi everyone,

Any help with the above message? Would love to get details of MPs and sauna which offer FS as well as other services, preferably for around 500 rmb.

Lost In Shanghai
06-25-16, 03:37
Read somewhere on this forum, that there are some pharmacies where you can buy the blue one without prescription. Tried 3 places with no luck.

Anyone know a place in Shanghai where you can buy those without too many questions?

Not possible for me to fix this at home, since the small town I live in is full of gossip, and doctor / patient confidentiality is nothing you can trust.

The missy could find out and start wondering why I'm not using them on her.

Feel free to PM me.Swedish Dude: The following posts may be helpful: 8258,4796, 9963,9173. Locations vary from time to time. Good luck.

Lost In Shanghai
06-25-16, 04:07
Hi everyone,

Any help with the above message? Would love to get details of MPs and sauna which offer FS as well as other services, preferably for around 500 rmb.Clear your PM inbox, man. It is full.

SexInCity
06-25-16, 04:32
Clear your PM inbox, man. It is full.Can I have those information too? I'm heading to ShangHai soon. Thanks.

Apat5483
06-25-16, 06:41
Clear your PM inbox, man. It is full.Hello,

I have cleared my inbox. Thanks in advance.

Carage
06-25-16, 10:26
I just visited SiYuan this afternoon.

They have made some pretty substantial changes since my last visit about 5 months ago.

First is pricing, SiYuan has introduced tiered pricing this week (June 21st).

The girls are divided into three tiers:

Blue Label - 780.

Black Label - 1080.

Red Label - 1380.

The pricing announcement says there is also a Model tier which I didn't bother to ask about pricing.

This also complicates the math for ordering multiple girls.

I think this is how it works:

Red Label + Blue Label = 1380 + 500 = 1880.

Red Label + Black Label = 1380 + 600 = 1980.

Red Label + Red Label = 1380 + 700 = 2080.

I ordered Red Label (822) + Black Label (861) = 1980, plus I also stayed for ear-cleaning. So total damage is 1980 + 80 = 2060 today.

Now about the girls, 822 came highly recommended from the floor manager.

She a slender build with nice tits, just the right size probably see cup, nice soft voice, great attitude and service.

861 has larger coconuts, but they are very soft, most likely natural the. She is slightly chubbier but not fat.

BTW, she used to work at a legit massage, the after-exercise massage is a great plus.

I recommend both girls.

The beds have also been replaced. The rooms now feature round beds. Not exactly more comfortable, but certainly more stylish.

The beds for the nuru massage has also been replaced with something sturdier with rails so less likely to slip off when wet.

The girls told me the club also changed the the robe for customers, but today I still got handed one of the old robes.

FarFarEast89
06-25-16, 12:51
Hey all,

I have registered to the website after lurking for some time as non-registered. I have been frequenting in Shanghai lately for business trips, and would like to see more options which are lighter on wallet.

I have been to a sauna places on my last two trips and paid around 1,200 for great services (it was a place nearby Yuyuan garden), but hey, you can always look for something more easier on the wallet. Haven't tried the out-call as they always seem too good to be true.

If you have any good places to share, please let me know!

Thanks in advance.

FarFarEast89
06-25-16, 15:52
Hi all,

I have been a lurker on the forums for the last couple of months after discovering this site. Here goes my first post!

I have been frequenting China last 1 year and have been in Shanghai and Beijing area in general for business. Some nights sure get lonely, and had my share of mongering as well in both Beijing and Shanghai. However, being the newbie who doesn't speak Chinese and doesn't have good Chinese contacts, all the encounters have been bit heavy on the wallet.

Therefore, I am kindly asking you brothers for good tips and contacts in Shanghai area before my next visit which will be around June 28th.

I have been to Sauna clubs in Shanghai around Yuyuan Garden area and paid 12 Maos, and wondering whether I paid too much? If there is any other cheaper, quality options available.

Never tried out-call in both Shanghai and Beijing as they seem too good to be true and I usually hear to tales of scam related to it.

Therefore, please help me out and certainly I will try to help out in exchange.

Thanks in advance.

Sinofaguo
06-25-16, 23:32
1/ Why asking for tips when they are already available for read on this thread, some of them just a few posts below yours.

2/ What use will other posters make from your post when all there is to read is that you went to yuyuan for 1200 rmb? How about a decent report (type of the place / name / address / experience there, etc.


Hi all,

I have been a lurker on the forums for the last couple of months after discovering this site. Here goes my first post!

I have been frequenting China last 1 year and have been in Shanghai and Beijing area in general for business. Some nights sure get lonely, and had my share of mongering as well in both Beijing and Shanghai. However, being the newbie who doesn't speak Chinese and doesn't have good Chinese contacts, all the encounters have been bit heavy on the wallet.

Therefore, I am kindly asking you brothers for good tips and contacts in Shanghai area before my next visit which will be around June 28th.

I have been to Sauna clubs in Shanghai around Yuyuan Garden area and paid 12 Maos, and wondering whether I paid too much? If there is any other cheaper, quality options available.

Never tried out-call in both Shanghai and Beijing as they seem too good to be true and I usually hear to tales of scam related to it.

Therefore, please help me out and certainly I will try to help out in exchange.

Thanks in advance.

Sinofaguo
06-27-16, 15:47
Has it always been this way or is the Shanghai scene getting crazy?

I was checking for MPs on a chinese site and noticed more and more sauna are advertising BBFS!?

Most often it seems the girls whom provide Anal Sex listed as a service provide BBFS too.

Hell if you look at this sauna here http://shhhy.org/thread-222219-1-1.html almost 80% of the girls offer this service.

I'm glad I don't do saunas because its really going to become the russian wheel there. WTF is wrong with these places and how do they get these girls to risk their lives? And in return their customer's life. Would suck for a guy to do anal with a girl and because of the dom breaking getting something bad because she does BBFS as a service with many. Maybe even BBA?

FarFarEast89
06-27-16, 19:30
Thanks for the heads up, I guess I got bit lazy and wanted to be spoon fed.

Regarding my visit:

It was a small Sauna place on the cross-intersection of Zhoujin Rd. And S. Henan Rd. Right next to Merchant's Bank, but you have to contact them actually enter, of course. Actually, I was directed there from SNG website (which I stumbled upon on google), where I used one of the free sauna information (didn't feel like signing up), the sauna place had the name of Dongguan Model club or something. They have like average of 15 girls at max at 1 rotation, I believe you can ask them for more. The manager guy actually had good English, to understand and discuss. It is not a spanking new place so don't expect high luxury place.

They had tiered system with girls ranging from be to models.

Entered the changing area, changed into funny looking shorts and shirts, then ushered into the selection area. Here is the tricky part and you are there with 20-30 pairs of eyes looking at you, which at first felt bit uncomfortable.

I had S class girl and paid around 1198 yuans for the service. Full 80 minutes + nuru and all the full package. Be-s were starting from 698 I think, but not up to my taste. Had the S61 girl. Solid 7 with slender build great racks but chest area not so big. Be+ at the most. And she was a great performer, able to go twice with OK massage and general relaxed non-rushed service. Of course, it is a sauna place so don't expect any GFE (its more mechanical).

Never tried the out-call in Shanghai and kindly asking anyone care to give some recommendations.

Hope this helps.


1/ Why asking for tips when they are already available for read on this thread, some of them just a few posts below yours.

2/ What use will other posters make from your post when all there is to read is that you went to yuyuan for 1200 rmb? How about a decent report (type of the place / name / address / experience there, etc.

Sinofaguo
06-28-16, 02:27
Great report!

For outcall you have 3 english speaking options.

SNG, raininshanghai.com, helenandfriends.com.

Most chinese / craiglist / wechat alternatives have a lower starting price but will most often end up with upselling requests and a poor experience.



It was a small Sauna place on the cross-intersection of Zhoujin Rd. And S. Henan Rd. Right next to Merchant's Bank, but you have to contact them actually enter, of course. Actually, I was directed there from SNG website (which I stumbled upon on google), where I used one of the free sauna information (didn't feel like signing up), the sauna place had the name of Dongguan Model club or something. They have like average of 15 girls at max at 1 rotation, I believe you can ask them for more. The manager guy actually had good English, to understand and discuss. It is not a spanking new place so don't expect high luxury place.

They had tiered system with girls ranging from be to models.

Entered the changing area, changed into funny looking shorts and shirts, then ushered into the selection area. Here is the tricky part and you are there with 20-30 pairs of eyes looking at you, which at first felt bit uncomfortable.

I had S class girl and paid around 1198 yuans for the service. Full 80 minutes + nuru and all the full package. Be-s were starting from 698 I think, but not up to my taste. Had the S61 girl. Solid 7 with slender build great racks but chest area not so big. Be+ at the most. And she was a great performer, able to go twice with OK massage and general relaxed non-rushed service. Of course, it is a sauna place so don't expect any GFE (its more mechanical).

Never tried the out-call in Shanghai and kindly asking anyone care to give some recommendations.

NorthSouth
06-28-16, 12:51
Carage posted about the new tier pricing system in SiYuan I thought I read somewhere SiYuan and Bodi are owed by the same boss. Would that mean Bodi will have the same tier system (a thinly disguised price increase) ?

FarFarEast89
06-28-16, 14:40
Thanks for the info man!

Actually I am accessing ISG from mainland China for some, I thought it was blocked no?

I was bombarded by Wechat requests when used the nearby me option, but I was highly skeptical as the girls were too beautiful going for prices of 1000 RMB per HR. Might be true, might be not, but the upselling issue was always reported in previous posts.

Actually, might try one of the out-call options you mentioned, or might not and just go to new sauna place.

The link you posted on with shy. Org had great sauna locations, and was able to figure out the texts using translate.

Tang Dynasty and Red House were there as well, plus there we some additional places in Yangpu district and Rhyme Hotel or something (haha). Also I have been seeing the Bodi and Siyuan posts recently, are they any decent?

Which sauna had the best track record recently?


Great report!

For outcall you have 3 english speaking options.

SNG, raininshanghai.com, helenandfriends.com.

Most chinese / craiglist / wechat alternatives have a lower starting price but will most often end up with upselling requests and a poor experience.

FarFarEast89
06-28-16, 14:45
Hey all,

Another thing, did anyone actually check around the Jiashan. Zhejiang area (it is 1.30 hrs from Shanghai by car).

I stayed in World Expo Hotel over there and they had a sauna there called Maya (Like the ancients). And when I went to the reception to ask, the reception offered FS B2B for 798, didn't actually try them out, but feel like I might this time?

Did anyone actually stayed around there and checked out scene?

Rain Shanghai
06-29-16, 13:24
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MongerBro
06-29-16, 18:01
Hello,

I am looking for some good massage parlors (which provides extra services) around the Pudong area. If you know any, please let me know.

NorthSouth
06-30-16, 14:48
This afternoon was the third time I visited Sacrosa. All three times I had great times with the visits.

1. The place is very easy to get to by subway, so you can avoid taxi rip off. Around the block if you get off at Shangcheng Road station of Line 9.

2. All three times I had great GFE. Today I chose 516, from Harbin. Look wise maybe 6-7, She was a real MILF though. And service was outstanding, attentive and unhurried. Recommended.

3. I had a busy morning and afternoon. I did not have time for lunch. I left work early and go monger. I was a little hungry. I was offered snacks, gratis. Some of the choices were dumplings or noodles. I had a hearty bowl of noodles with pork chop.

4. The place was in a high rent commercial area and the decor and fixings were decent and clean.

I had the great GFE, and the snack, all for 600 rmb. Must be one of the top value play in Shanghai. Granted the girls are not as pretty as those in Bodi or Kang Ding.

There two things I do not like:

1.ComMon. Shower area before you can change in the sauna uniform and a long naked walk with a bunch of guys.

2. I had GFE and a great time, I wanted to tip the girls, but disallowed. The last time, I went back to the locker to get some money and asked if I could have the girl came out so I can give her the extra money that she well deserved. The manager refused. Today I took the money in my hand (I had to do the naked walk), but was told I could not bring cash (or any valuables) into the play area. I was directed back to the locker to leave te money there. I really felt bad that I could not show my appreciation after such a great session. The girls were really short-changed by such practice.

Parasitius
06-30-16, 17:39
2. I had GFE and a great time, I wanted to tip the girls, but disallowed. The last time, I went back to the locker to get some money and asked if I could have the girl came out so I can give her the extra money that she well deserved. The manager refused. Today I took the money in my hand (I had to do the naked walk), but was told I could not bring cash (or any valuables) into the play area. I was directed back to the locker to leave te money there. I really felt bad that I could not show my appreciation after such a great session. The girls were really short-changed by such practice.Why the fuq can't people respect the culture of the country they are residing in? It is a Chinese business for pete's sakes, if it was specially accommodating foreigners that'd be one thing and you could go right ahead and corrupt it for the rest of it like so many before (Angeles City, Philippines + way too many Americans, for example? They say 'tip tip' but don't actually understand the concept has any connection to service).

Not trying to start an argument so I'm probably not going to write more but. Gosh. There is no such thing as a "well deserved x" when x don't exist. That's all.

It's very heartening to know Sacrosa is still around, haven't been since 2009 and doubted it could possibly exist in this day and age still. In that regard, thanks for helping me have high hopes I can go back to SH for a nice visit one day!

BionicMan
06-30-16, 18:40
Hello,

I am looking for some good massage parlors (which provides extra services) around the Pudong area. If you know any, please let me know.Yes, we all know. All written here. That is why and how we know.

NorthSouth
06-30-16, 19:04
Parasitius, I guess you must have a firm position your boss should never give you a raise or a year end bonus for a job well done. Perhaps those offers had never been extended to you. If they did, you definitely should refuse firmly . Those are so corrupting. And you don't deserve anything anyway. But, strangely and contradictory, you mentioned in your rant a connection between service and gratuity.

And FYI, I do not tip automatically, but if I felt that the girl had done a good job, I would like to show that I noticed and appreciated it. You can do whatever you want. I do not call your attitude that of a cheap skate, so do not label a simple token of appreciation as corruption of a culture.

ThingStick
07-01-16, 03:04
Parasitius, I guess you must have a firm position your boss should never give you a raise or a year end bonus for a job well done. Perhaps those offers had never been extended to you. If they did, you definitely should refuse firmly . Those are so corrupting. And you don't deserve anything anyway. But, strangely and contradictory, you mentioned in your rant a connection between service and gratuity.

And FYI, I do not tip automatically, but if I felt that the girl had done a good job, I would like to show that I noticed and appreciated it. You can do whatever you want. I do not call your attitude that of a cheap skate, so do not label a simple token of appreciation as corruption of a culture.Uh, actually, I'm with Parasitius on this one. It doesn't matter what you think. You're in China. Try to leave a 20 on the table of most mom and pop noodle shops, and watch them chase you down the street to give it back.

Tips are widely, not accepted in China, and if the shop people say you shouldn't give them tips, then don't give them tips.

It's not your right to say what is and isn't acceptable in a country that isn't yours.

They refused, so you should respect the way they do business, and leave it at that.

Vote with your money and feet and go back if it's so special to you.

Waldeck2
07-01-16, 07:00
Parasitius, I guess you must have a firm position your boss should never give you a raise or a year end bonus for a job well done. Perhaps those offers had never been extended to you. If they did, you definitely should refuse firmly . Those are so corrupting. And you don't deserve anything anyway. But, strangely and contradictory, you mentioned in your rant a connection between service and gratuity.

And FYI, I do not tip automatically, but if I felt that the girl had done a good job, I would like to show that I noticed and appreciated it. You can do whatever you want. I do not call your attitude that of a cheap skate, so do not label a simple token of appreciation as corruption of a culture.If you both have wechat you can transfer money through Wechat. Not rocket science.

NorthSouth
07-01-16, 13:05
Just because something is the accepted way to do things in a locale does not mean that it is always the right thing to do. And choosing to not observe it is not a ghastly violation of national sovereignty or condemnation of the way of those people. To take the argument to a more extreme level, do you ignore all the things around the world that are grievous violation of human right or women's right, and say " Well. That is the local's way, so that is quite alright"? I hope you are as culturally understanding when you are sitting in the kettle of boiling water, while the local cannibals salt it to taste.

The Guy
07-01-16, 15:11
If a sauna has a strict no-tip policy, there's good reason for it. Makes no sense to violate the policy.

NorthSouth
07-01-16, 16:08
I did not know there was a no tipping policy at Sacrosa. The first time, I just thought that the manager did not want a girl to come out from the play area to the locker area, where the guys were undressing to do the naked walk. (I was not sure the manager understood my not ready for prime time Mandarin anyway) The second time, when the staff noticed I had some money in my hand, they told me not to bring cash or other valuables into the play area. I was not entirely certain that meant a strict no tipping policy, and I was not fighting it if there was one. I just said I do not like such policy. That takes away free choice, and is totally against a libertarian bent.

RobSH
07-02-16, 15:16
You do realize this is China, right? And you are complaining about lack of free choice and libertarian?


I did not know there was a no tipping policy at Sacrosa. The first time, I just thought that the manager did not want a girl to come out from the play area to the locker area, where the guys were undressing to do the naked walk. (I was not sure the manager understood my not ready for prime time Mandarin anyway) The second time, when the staff noticed I had some money in my hand, they told me not to bring cash or other valuables into the play area. I was not entirely certain that meant a strict no tipping policy, and I was not fighting it if there was one. I just said I do not like such policy. That takes away free choice, and is totally against a libertarian bent.

ThingStick
07-02-16, 17:35
Just because something is the accepted way to do things in a locale does not mean that it is always the right thing to do. And choosing to not observe it is not a ghastly violation of national sovereignty or condemnation of the way of those people. To take the argument to a more extreme level, do you ignore all the things around the world that are grievous violation of human right or women's right, and say " Well. That is the local's way, so that is quite alright"? I hope you are as culturally understanding when you are sitting in the kettle of boiling water, while the local cannibals salt it to taste.Dude,

You're banging hookers in a foreign country, not saving the rain forest. Follow what the people who work there say, and don't make a fucking fuss.

The Guy
07-02-16, 18:08
I did not know there was a no tipping policy at Sacrosa. The first time, I just thought that the manager did not want a girl to come out from the play area to the locker area, where the guys were undressing to do the naked walk. (I was not sure the manager understood my not ready for prime time Mandarin anyway) The second time, when the staff noticed I had some money in my hand, they told me not to bring cash or other valuables into the play area. I was not entirely certain that meant a strict no tipping policy, and I was not fighting it if there was one. I just said I do not like such policy. That takes away free choice, and is totally against a libertarian bent.Sauna, understandably, does not want to encourage expectation of tipping among girls. Girls will soon start to pressure clients to tip, causing dissatisfaction among clients and ultimately undermining business model. Girls already earn perhaps 20 x their regular (non-whoring) salary.

No tipping consensus also exists in many Western service industries. Not sure anyone in your hometown would appreciate you tipping bus driver or TSA security guard. If you tell boss the girl was awesome and call to reserve her services again, you've done much more for her. It's not just about your liberty to tip but about a business' or organization's liberty to operate as it chooses in order to please the greatest number of customers and maximize revenue.

NorthSouth
07-03-16, 15:22
While what you said was very reasonable, the principle you proposed could mean no one in any company should get a raise or bonus because his work is good, because everyone else would be expecting or demanding it. That is the downside of collective bargaining. An often cited example is the teachers union in the US: there will be equality of outcome, I. E. Everyone get paid the same, no matter what one put in. There is no incentive to do anything extra. The good teacher get paid the same as the bad ones. Substitute sauna girls. There is no universally and equally applicable situations. I accept a no tipping policy in some saunas, but that is not saying I think it is the correct policy, or will result in more customer satisfaction.

BionicMan
07-03-16, 17:13
While what you said was very reasonable, the principle you proposed could mean no one in any company should get a raise or bonus because his work is good, because everyone else would be expecting or demanding it. That is the downside of collective bargaining. An often cited example is the teachers union in the US: there will be equality of outcome, I. E. Everyone get paid the same, no matter what one put in. There is no incentive to do anything extra. The good teacher get paid the same as the bad ones. Substitute sauna girls. There is no universally and equally applicable situations. I accept a no tipping policy in some saunas, but that is not saying I think it is the correct policy, or will result in more customer satisfaction.The real issue is how to determine the level of service deserving a tip. Very much individually set.

What's the extra in a soap massage or sauna? A standard starfish service so thst the girl playing just a bit more with the toungue and not only with lips in a BJ is deliverying a super service?

Or is it anal in a place where it is known not to be part of the service menu?

What's the extra?

China is mainly no tip. Let it be it.

Japan, don't even dare to tip the lady porter in the hotel, she might stare at you not understanding.

Let it be it.

Good service should pay back repeated and more business.

Just as bad service (does anyone refund your money if you are not happy? No as it might be your standard that is wrong) should be rewarded with word of mouth bad reviews or complains at the management.

Why insisting on a tip? For your own peace of mind, cleaning your souls as a monger?

NorthSouth
07-03-16, 18:10
What is good service? To paraphrase ex-US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart: you know it when you receive it.

Why I like to give a little more to providers who gave me a good time: their work is hard ans dangerous, their career short, they can always use the extra money. And I had a good time, which does not happen every time. Sometimes you are just a john, and they are just going through the motion.

Dirk67
07-03-16, 19:08
What is good service? To paraphrase ex-US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart: you know it when you receive it.

Why I like to give a little more to providers who gave me a good time: their work is hard ans dangerous, their career short, they can always use the extra money. And I had a good time, which does not happen every time. Sometimes you are just a john, and they are just going through the motion.Just as people get (rightly) upset when foreigners visit the USA And do not follow local custom to tip in restaurants (because they are following their own custom), we should likewise not impose our customs on other cultures. When in Rome. When you try to tip in non-tipping cultures, it actually causes significant social anxiety and embarrassment for the recipient, just as we feel when we don't know how much is appropriate to tip in places where tipping is customary.

Not to worry-- you can add many girls on WeChat in China and they will have no problem asking you constantly to send them "hongbao" for no reason at all.

Dirk67
07-03-16, 19:23
Checked out a new sauna posted to shhhy. Was told by one of the agents that it's just opened. Called Hao Hua (I think), it's located near the scooter repair shops on Xinshi Rd and adjacent to Ling Feng Apartments. Approx 20 min from Renmin Guangchang area. I'm pretty sure multiple agents posted about this one, as two gave me this same intersection. Interestingly, they had different specials. Not sure about English, everything was in Chinese.

Facilities definitely feel new, but it's your typical labyrinth layout and a lineup room with lights and mirrors everywhere. You have tall booths to sit in while you select a girl, which provide a modicum of privacy. Girl selection is about 20-30 at any given time, ranging in looks from 5-8. I did not really see any that were super stunners, maybe one or two 9. Of course, many girls were busy already when I arrived at 8:30 pm.

I selected a girl that just started there from Guangdong who was at the M level (goes M 998, Q 1298, X 1598, and S 2298), she was very tiny, with a GND look. Cute to me, and had the small spinner body I like-- very small boobs though, A-minus, but perky nips.

Service was good, as I am able to speak some Chinese and able to warm her up with jokes and conversation. She allowed DATY and O'd, which made the rest of the session a bit more fun. No complaints, other than selection was a bit sparse for my taste.

http://www.shhhy.xyz/thread-222071-1-1.html

NorthSouth
07-03-16, 19:47
Pretty much everyone who commented earlier set an impression that most saunas in China have a no tipping policy, I would say Sacrosa was the only one I went to that may have that. Every place else I'd been to ( I only do saunas, and I go 2 or 3 times a week for more than 18 months now, so I think I have a large sample size) they allow tipping, and the girls I gave the extra money to appreciated the gesture. They were not confused or anxious. I do not tip automatically and was never pushed. The managements and the girls understood that as a token of appreciation. They did not act as if I was doing anything foreign, corrupting or disruptive.

Willa1
07-03-16, 22:57
Was in Shanghai the past week. Arriving Friday, leaving the following Friday with an opportunity to play the first weekend & Thursday night. First Friday, started at Judy's around 11 PM, caught the end of the Euro match & surveyed the field. Saw little that interested me. Mostly older girls, along with a contingent of black girls from Kenya. Although the band was lively, nothing of interest for takeout- so left for Manhatten around 12. The place was mobbed. Lots of girls (more variety, including younger crowd) - but also lots of guys. Found a couple that were of interest, settled on a slim girl from Vietnam about 22, A cup, but curves in the right place & a great smile. 1000 RMB for Short time, left about 2. Great session at my hotel, completed about 4. Overall, would repeat.

Saturday spent sightseeing, dinner around 10, got to Manhatten around 12. Crowded. But did not see anything, so went to Judy's. One of the black girls came over & convinced me to give her a try- said till morning for 1800 - thought I'd give her try. Big mistake. Although she looked good in Judy's lighting, not tight at all. Not my type. And not at all engaged. After 15 minutes. Said she was tired. We agreed she should leave. 800 RMB including taxi. Glad she left.

Finished up work around 9 PM on Thursday. Leaving Friday. So decided to see how Manhatten was. It was a monger's delight. Arrived around 11.3 X as many girls as guys. And all of them looking for a strike. Settled on a great looking Vietnamese. First time in Shanghai (or so she says) for 1,500 for all night. She had see cups, great ass & was a fantastic kisser. Left around 12:30. Twice before sleep. Once at 7:30 the next morning. Fantastic time. Strongly recommend Thursday night if you can arrange it.

Will

SexInCity
07-04-16, 14:50
Checked out a new sauna posted to shhhy. Was told by one of the agents that it's just opened. Called Hao Hua (I think), it's located near the scooter repair shops on Xinshi Rd and adjacent to Ling Feng Apartments. Approx 20 min from Renmin Guangchang area. I'm pretty sure multiple agents posted about this one, as two gave me this same intersection. Interestingly, they had different specials. Not sure about English, everything was in Chinese.

Facilities definitely feel new, but it's your typical labyrinth layout and a lineup room with lights and mirrors everywhere. You have tall booths to sit in while you select a girl, which provide a modicum of privacy. Girl selection is about 20-30 at any given time, ranging in looks from 5-8. I did not really see any that were super stunners, maybe one or two 9. Of course, many girls were busy already when I arrived at 8:30 pm.

I selected a girl that just started there from Guangdong who was at the M level (goes M 998, Q 1298, X 1598, and S 2298), she was very tiny, with a GND look. Cute to me, and had the small spinner body I like-- very small boobs though, A-minus, but perky nips.

Service was good, as I am able to speak some Chinese and able to warm her up with jokes and conversation. She allowed DATY and O'd, which made the rest of the session a bit more fun. No complaints, other than selection was a bit sparse for my taste.

http://www.shhhy.xyz/thread-222071-1-1.htmlThe price list shown in the link doesn't match your description. Am I wrong?

The ad states:

Daily promo 698 rmb, A 898,Q 1198,M 1498,T 1798.

Ira Johnson
07-05-16, 03:21
Hey,

Uncle Ira is going to hit Manhattan on Thursday night and is happy to hoist a cold one with brothers there. PM me if you want to hang out.

I have not pulled from Manhattan in several years and I fee rusty. In Shanghai I generally play with freebies with my wife, but she is out of town and I feel like Vietnamese. I chatted with one on WeChat that I know works in Manhattan / Judy's but her entire Wechat life is complaining of loneliness, misery, hardship and such. Not indicative of a potentially fun and light night. So I think I better shop brick-and-mortar rather than online.

I like flying with a wingman in Pattaya, as I tend to get blinded by horniness and do not make the best choices. So I want a bro who has my back and will help prevent me from making a less than great deal.

Ira.

NorthSouth
07-05-16, 16:56
There are 2 possibilities in the price discrepancy.

1. You may be getting the foreigner's specials if the higher prices were given when you showed your face there.

2. Deceptive advertising. I ran into those a fair bit in the saunas advertising in those Chinese mongering sites. They advertised great prices, or "same price for every girl". When I contacted them (in translated Chinese) on qq before I went there, I was quoted something higher. When I asked why, they said the specials or promos were over. "All girls at the same price" often meant only one or two: the daily specials. They were almost never available when you got there: they claimed the daily specials were with some other clients. I often wondered if there was actually even one girl at the daily special price.

Whenever I was told what was in the ads was not what was available, I passed on those places.

Lost99
07-07-16, 08:01
This is my first time to Shanghai, and I have a 17 HR layover.

Can anyone suggest a nice Spa / Sauna accessible to the Airport (doesn't have to be close, but perhaps along the subway line? Where I can rest, get some food, and a massage? (massage extras not required, but would be nice).

In Guangzhou I usually frequent "Shui Hui" where you can rest in a very nice lounge with TV, movies, and food, use shower, hotub, steam, and get massage for around 250 RMB for as long as you like. Is there anything similar in Shanghai you can recommend?

Any other activities you can suggest for my layover, is appreciated. Thank you!

Tazman099
07-07-16, 10:15
I'm in contact with a sauna currently running a special - 798 for any girl. They normally have 3 levels, starting at 1080.

Checked them out for the first time yesterday. Decent enough experience. Clearly fairly new, not the greatest selection. But good enough. The room we had was quite large and very little noise from outside. One really stupid thing they did is put a mirror on one wall of wet area (no, that's not the stupid part) that only goes far enough down to see part of the girl when she's on you, not even enough to see where contact is being made.

Will I go back, possibly while they are running the special, doubtful once it's over. But the place itself is decent enough.

It's right on yan'an lu, not too far from hongmeilu.

I'll give contact info by pm to contributing members only. Tough to beat the special.

Taz.

SexInCity
07-07-16, 14:42
This is my first time to Shanghai, and I have a 17 HR layover.

Can anyone suggest a nice Spa / Sauna accessible to the Airport (doesn't have to be close, but perhaps along the subway line? Where I can rest, get some food, and a massage? (massage extras not required, but would be nice).

In Guangzhou I usually frequent "Shui Hui" where you can rest in a very nice lounge with TV, movies, and food, use shower, hotub, steam, and get massage for around 250 RMB for as long as you like. Is there anything similar in Shanghai you can recommend?

Any other activities you can suggest for my layover, is appreciated. Thank you!Check the sauna report of #10383 in the shanghai forum. The place is reported close to metro line 9 ShangCheng station.

I think for 17 hours layover is more than doable.

Ebauche
07-07-16, 16:45
Rather surprised to get cockblocked by an employee at Marriott Hongqiao. Maybe the girl had a history?

RobSH
07-08-16, 03:42
Check the sauna report of #10383 in the shanghai forum. The place is reported close to metro line 9 ShangCheng station.

I think for 17 hours layover is more than doable.He was asking for a day spa with massage. I do not think Sacrosa is what he is looking for, as massage is not the main focus. I don't think you can just go in for a massage.

Lost 99: I think you are better off asking this question in Tripadvisor.

Sinofaguo
07-08-16, 16:24
I've been debating with myself whether or not to post this, but decided I should based on some of the recent discussions. Before I start, I want to clarify my position: I believe every Shanghai mongerer benefits from the service Steven and his site provides!

However, some issues have come to my attention recently, and it may be that I was just naive, but I thought it worthy of mentioning. First, all the pictures are not in fact real. You have to read through the comments to verify this if you want to. What I've learned is that if an individual page does not say "verified" pictures, they are probably not actually her. Now, from reading comments, it seems that sng does verify that they are reflective of the person (hight, shape, etc) - but not the person. I would also add that there is question as to how often they are verified. For sure I think it's unrealistic to expect monthly checks, but in one case I experienced, she looked so different from her pictures that I almost had to hold the picture next to her to see it was in fact the same girl (no need to go into additional details as she has been removed).

The other detail recently identified is that no negative reviews are permitted at all. I kinda realized this sometime time ago, but it became clearer recently. Negative comments must go through the complaint form.
Seems also that customer private information can be disclosed by SNG if they aren't happy with you...

I just saw Steven posted some Singaporean's customer hotel name, hotel room number and mobile phone on his page (independant girls page comments section at bottom).

Even if the customer apparently acted like a dumbass wasting the girl's time to try negotiate a discount in a stupid plot, this is totally unacceptable to post his private info on a public internet page.

God knows what will one day happen to those who gave SNG their mobile number, real life name and room number / private address. Glad I never did.

BlahMan333
07-08-16, 18:27
Seems also that customer private information can be disclosed by SNG if they aren't happy with you...

I just saw Steven posted some Singaporean's customer hotel name, hotel room number and mobile phone on his page (independant girls page comments section at bottom).

Even if the customer apparently acted like a dumbass wasting the girl's time to try negotiate a discount in a stupid plot, this is totally unacceptable to post his private info on a public internet page.

God knows what will one day happen to those who gave SNG their mobile number, real life name and room number / private address. Glad I never did.Well Donald Trump also gave out Lindsey Graham's personal phone number publicly, and he might become the USA's next president, so. http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/21/politics/donald-trump-lindsey-graham-cell-phone/.

In all seriousness. I actually respect Steven's work in trying to protect girls from a $$holes. Maybe giving out personal phone numbers isn't that classy (he should probably remove that) but actually I like Steven's heart in this.

And in the bigger picture- I really appreciate Steven's work overall and hope he continues to do it for a long time. On the internet, there are very few other websites that can help us. If people continue to criticize then we run the risk of ruining a good thing. It's like if you lived in a small town and if there was no good coffee, and there's only one coffee place. Maybe it's not perfect but you appreciate that it's there. As a for profit business he can run the site any way he wants. We can give suggestions for improvement. Suggestions are different than criticisms.

All the issues related to incall and freelancer girls- I imagine sometimes the girls themselves might be the ones doing the tricky things (bait and switch), in which Steven might not have control. At least he tries to make things as reliable as possible.

We all win when we share more reports and more information with each other. Sure Steven could improve some things, but in general it's a good and valuable service (and basically the only one), so I applaud him.

BlahMan333
07-08-16, 18:40
I feel like we all win when we can share reports and intel with each other. So I'll share a quick report. Over the last week or so I visited a couple saunas in the Wuzhong Road area. 45 Mansion and also the We Love Hotel. Both in the afternoon. These places were both pretty busy. We Love Hotel (9th floor) was crazy packed and people had to wait a long time to wait for rooms. Selection was pretty good for both places but prices were expensive. 1998 RMB for the "S" category. Chose a cute girl who was chatty and said she sees about 3-5 people per day and makes about 600 RMB a person. We Love Hotel had pretty nice facilities -- a huge lounge. Everything seemed quite new. Session was long, like 90 minutes. After a while I ran out of things to talk about and it got a little boring. Wasn't allowed to bring smartphone or anything (metal detector) so communication was also tougher. I'm a white guy who has lived in China for a few years but my Chinese is pretty mediocre. If you can afford it, We Love Hotel was a pretty good experience. The free food was above average too.

Any other recommendations for the best saunas nowadays? I'm looking for young and sexy, and good value, not crazy expensive. What are your favorite saunas these days?

I'm curious if some of the old places from before (Hongsong Road Hilton Hongqiao, Jiang Li) have re-opened or not?

Also curious about the quality at Bodi, is it still decent?

Any intel appreciated. The more we share with each other, the more we help each other.

Tazman099
07-09-16, 12:50
I feel like we all win when we can share reports and intel with each other. So I'll share a quick report. Over the last week or so I visited a couple saunas in the Wuzhong Road area. 45 Mansion and also the We Love Hotel. Both in the afternoon. These places were both pretty busy. We Love Hotel (9th floor) was crazy packed and people had to wait a long time to wait for rooms. Selection was pretty good for both places but prices were expensive. 1998 RMB for the "S" category. Chose a cute girl who was chatty and said she sees about 3-5 people per day and makes about 600 RMB a person. We Love Hotel had pretty nice facilities -- a huge lounge. Everything seemed quite new. Session was long, like 90 minutes. After a while I ran out of things to talk about and it got a little boring. Wasn't allowed to bring smartphone or anything (metal detector) so communication was also tougher. I'm a white guy who has lived in China for a few years but my Chinese is pretty mediocre. If you can afford it, We Love Hotel was a pretty good experience. The free food was above average too.

Any other recommendations for the best saunas nowadays? I'm looking for young and sexy, and good value, not crazy expensive. What are your favorite saunas these days?

I'm curious if some of the old places from before (Hongsong Road Hilton Hongqiao, Jiang Li) have re-opened or not?

Also curious about the quality at Bodi, is it still decent?

Any intel appreciated. The more we share with each other, the more we help each other.Hong song is open. I can give contact info via pm. I prefer 45 mansion over we love (same owner) not sure who your contact is, but I have a very service oriented English speaking contact.

I also just reviewed a place not too far from there (yan'an west of hongmeilu) running a 798 special. Selection is not as good as any of the three above.

There's also a place near the Japanese mall in gubei. Good selection, but the facilities are not quite as nice.

My old favorite, Dong song is open, but I don't have current contact. There's a couple more in the area, but haven't been to them (seem to have good selections though based on wechat updates).

The one place that I'm guessing may have one of the better selections around and should be quite nice (haven't been there), but also pricy is the place in xujiahua where the old sng contact from kangding went.

Happy to share contacts by pm if interested.

Taz.

DoItUnderwater
07-09-16, 22:25
Took a walk last night in Jing An area and saw the Buddha place and a couple places around the corner on Shaanxia Lu are open. Did not partake but will soon and post report.

Have fun,

Doit.

Connor0368
07-10-16, 06:37
Hi all,

I'm looking for some help and advice. I will be visiting Shanghai in 6 weeks for the first time. I am there for 4 nights with my business partner who also likes to indulge.

We are staying at Hilton Huashan Road. Are there restrictions bringing girls back to the hotel? Not really interested in parlors but have seen Judy's mentioned, Is this the place to go? Maybe also looking for independents for day time fun.

Any help would be appreciated.

SamCan
07-10-16, 18:01
Hi all,

I'm looking for some help and advice. I will be visiting Shanghai in 6 weeks for the first time. I am there for 4 nights with my business partner who also likes to indulge.

We are staying at Hilton Huashan Road. Are there restrictions bringing girls back to the hotel? Not really interested in parlors but have seen Judy's mentioned, Is this the place to go? Maybe also looking for independents for day time fun.

Any help would be appreciated.HIlton is absolutely no problem getting a girl in our out of. I have done it dozens of times. (unless there is some sort of crackdown, they they want her ID). This is really not a problem. I have had a girl show her ID before and off you go. The only time it is an issue is if a girl has used her ID twice for 2 different guys. If this happens, the hilton will tell you. if you make them do it, they have to call the police. They don't want to call the police on their guests so they will tell you they can't let her in. no worries just dump her and go back to judy's for one that is not recycled.

I like Judy's. Many bro's like Manhatans. Start the rounds at 945-10 pm and visit both. Best pickings on quality is probably 10p-1 am. (realizing that the girls are getting picked over as you wait and such). Best deals are had around 4 am and not Friday or Saturday night. I never minded paying the premium for quality girls and Friday or Saturday night when I didn't have to work the next day.

Each to his own.

SNG is also a good sight and the pictures are real to what you get. CAll and they deliver to the room, just Like dominos - LOL

Sam Can.

DoItUnderwater
07-11-16, 03:17
Update. I went during daylight and found that the Buddha place has changed names and now has the sign from Min Massage above the door. The buddha wall art has been replaced with a different piece of art. The stairs have been remodeled to give better visibility from the front counter. Service by a somewhat older and heavier girl was OK, not great. Shower, meager massage, slurpy water, cat bath with fake tongue, flip, BJ and HY ending. Damage 268.

Have fun all.


Took a walk last night in Jing An area and saw the Buddha place and a couple places around the corner on Shaanxia Lu are open. Did not partake but will soon and post report.

Have fun,

Doit.

Andorman
07-13-16, 23:51
I will be at the Radisson Blu for the week. Any problems with this hotel letting girls in? Best places for hobbying near this hotel?

Thanks!

Argogia
07-14-16, 08:21
I will be at the Radisson Blu for the week. Any problems with this hotel letting girls in? Best places for hobbying near this hotel?

Thanks!Which Radisson are you talking about?

Nanjing Road?

AdultFunAsia
07-14-16, 10:32
I will be at the Radisson Blu for the week. Any problems with this hotel letting girls in? Best places for hobbying near this hotel?

Thanks!You either take a walk to Manhattan other Judys. 30 Minutes which is quite nice after a long flight. Then take a taxi back for around 20-25 RMB (not more).

In the hotel do not expect any problem.

Bad Boy Billy
07-14-16, 22:40
The Nanjing Lu Radisson is GF but is just a pr*ck of a hotel. Tiny rooms. I stayed there once but never again. Much better options close by at similar rates. LE Royal Meridien slaughters it.

Filozof
07-15-16, 01:28
Hi,

I will be next week in Renaissance Shanghai Zhongshan Park Hotel. I am looking nearby sauna or massage places. Can you recommend something?

SexInCity
07-15-16, 05:32
Cecilia was the first girl caught my eyes when I checked SNG out for the first time in 2015.

I travel a bit to China so I found SNG is quite useful though those independents from SNG are pricy comparing to sauna girls in SH.

After reading all those nice riviews on SNG about Cecilia, I decided to have a try of this Cambodian beauty.

Contact her via WhatsApp was quite easy, she replied quickly and seems really friendly and easy to text with. Her English is pretty good. She even sent me couple of her selfie for showing how she looks like in her daily life. We soon settled down an outcall evening meeting of 2 hrs in my hotel in Pudong area. Unlike other hotels, this 5-star hotel doesn't require keycard for elevator, which is good for me.

She arrived on time. Looks exactly the same as her pictures on SNG, maybe she is more attractive in her pictures with better make up and lighting arrangement. She is petite, with very fit shape and a notable round butt which most Chinese girls will be envious for.

About 10 minutes chit chat, we started with kiss and coddling on the couch. Her DFK was not that passionate as my expectation and just little tone kiss was offered.

Soon, We undressed each other and moved in the bed.

She has nice silicon be+ cup or maybe see cup, firm and round butt, beautiful thighs, silky skins as other asian girls. Her pussy is nicely shaved. All in all, those pictures on SNG are real and accurate.

To my surprise, she didn't recommend BBBJ because she said was having some teeth infection in those days. I accepted it. Hope it was not her excuse for not doing BBBJ.

So rubber on, she gave a nice BJ with playing of balls.

Proceed with mission and doggy, some fake moan I believe is quite normal.

Finished first load in doggy when I was fucking her from behind with nice butt view.

She is not much talkative and me neither. So the break time was quite boring, she watched TV with me in the bed and some chit chat mostly she just answered my curious questions about her life in SH.

Second round started, I asked her to do cowgirl. After few minutes she asked for changing because she was tired after gym workout in the afternoon. We switched to doggy and finished in mis.

The 2 hrs was not too bad at all however I expected more GFE feeling. Maybe it was just a bad day for her.

Face: 8/10.

Body: 8/10.

Attitude: 6/10.

Sex:7/10.

Damage:2000 RMB + taxi (2015 rate).

WIR:can be a good plan B

Tazman099
07-15-16, 13:51
Went to Bodi this afternoon (got there a little after 4 pm), this was my 2nd visit, 1st was more than a year ago. Not sure on the pricing structure, seems to be 900 - 1380, but I selected a 6 xx and was charged 980.

Pros:

Clean; nice rooms; they use a large heavy towel to cover the bed.

Cons:

I think there are better options based on price and selection (I certainly didn't see anything I'd spend 1400 on).

The biggest downside, for me at least, is doesn't appear that they have any commission paid salespeople. Which means no matter how many times you go there, you're either rolling the dice, or if you find one you like, stuck without variety. In my experience, it doesn't take more than two visits to build a relationship with your salesperson to have them guide you in the right direction. But I saw no signs whatsoever that bodi has anyone like that.

Taz.

Asian Geek
07-15-16, 16:16
Jimmy,

Go over to Judy's, have a beer, relax, check out the scene and hunt the one you like enough choices there. You can also go to Manhattan's. I have found beauties at both places. Take your time, before you decide.

AG.


Gentlemen,

I'm going to Shanghai on a business trip on June 28. This will be my first visit to China so I don't know much about the mongering scene there. What are some of the popular mongering spots I can visit during my stay there?

I am interested in escorts as well. If you know any girls or a reliable escort service please do let me know.

The Guy
07-20-16, 23:18
Convenient location close to city center. Only 7 in lineup at that moment. Wasn't attracted to higher cost options, such as car model, so took cheapest category (700) 25 year old. Being short, small breasted might have accounted for lower price. Also she was a mom. Anyway, I thought she was attractive and enthusiastic performer. No complaints.

SF101
07-21-16, 02:17
Selected Maria from the SNG website based upon the pictures, description and the selection guide filter results. The SNG website is very useful, and have booked several girls from the site with consistent results. The reviews / comments posted on the girls webpages are basically the positive reports. If you have somewhat negative comments or issues you are supposed to use the complaint form. So as a result you are not going to see the more balanced comments / reports on their webpages, for example #10423 "Cecelia from SNG" posted below. So just something to keep in mind.

I booked a 2 hour session for mid July. First she is very professional and easy to communicate with. She came on time and was dressed very elegantly. She is tall and pretty and the pictures are accurate, so easy to spot her in the lobby. Beautiful lips. Great figure. The website age is listed as 28, but this is very optimistic in my opinion. I know it is tough to judge Asians in general, but if you look more closely she is at least very late thirties if not actually in her 40's. This was not an issue for me as I wanted a MILF experience anyway. So again just something to be aware of, just don't expect at late 20's or early 30's look or hard body. Her soft body, look is very nice for her age. She does not have a tattoo on her lower stomach that was mentioned in other reviews or shows slightly on her website pictures. So that must have been one of those temporary tattoos, as she currently has none. Breasts are very nice and good to suck on.

Over all my experience was very similar to the report by Kib123. She loves to kiss and is very good at it. Easy to laugh, easy to talk too. She gets very wet if you pay proper attention to her. She gets very vocal. Not sure how much of that was for my benefit only, but that added to the experience anyway.

Her BBBJ is average at best. Even though the SNG selection guide indicates that she does CIM. This is not something that she "likes so much" or enjoys. This was perhaps the biggest disappointment as don't I really don't want to push or require the girls to do things I like but they don't like or want to do it. But maybe others don't mind this. This is not a YMMV item, I think her SNG selection filter is optimistic in this regard. I think also plays into the somewhat average / un-enthusiastic BBBJ. Did not try other items like COF that are listed as OK on the filter, so not sure if some of these items are really OK or not. Gives a good massage.

Overall I had a nice time. It was well rounded. She is pretty, sexy, vocal during sex, easy to talk to, offers a good massage and has good English. If you want / value an enthusiastic BBBJ or CIM I would look elsewhere. If you are after a younger provider / hard body I would also look elsewhere. But if you are after a MILF girlfriend experience she is a good choice. Her rates are a little higher than others, but she would be a good choice for a dinner date style in my opinion.

Lost99
07-21-16, 23:18
I'll be transiting in SH for 17 hours, and don't have much time to explore the various Saunas in town.

I'm looking for an extremely busty (DD or more, preferably F cup) sauna gal to relax with during my stopover. It wasnt hard to find such gals in DG back in the day, but those days are over, and I'm a newbie in SH.

If anybody knows a particular Sauna, or can suggest one where I can perhaps locate such a lady, please PM me. Thanks.

The Guy
07-24-16, 04:13
Selected Maria from the SNG website based upon the pictures, description and the selection guide filter results. The SNG website is very useful, and have booked several girls from the site with consistent results. The reviews / comments posted on the girls webpages are basically the positive reports. If you have somewhat negative comments or issues you are supposed to use the complaint form. So as a result you are not going to see the more balanced comments / reports on their webpages, for example #10423 "Cecelia from SNG" posted below. So just something to keep in mind.Yeah, I occasionally enjoy a few of the SNG escorts but customers should be aware that reviews on SNG site are somewhat rigged. Steve generally won't post negatives, even when accurate. And SNG sometimes allows girls to post inaccurate photos and ages. Having said that, it's still a good service.

SF101
07-24-16, 05:27
Yeah, I occasionally enjoy a few of the SNG escorts but customers should be aware that reviews on SNG site are somewhat rigged. Steve generally won't post negatives, even when accurate. And SNG sometimes allows girls to post inaccurate photos and ages. Having said that, it's still a good service.I would not call it rigged. Steven basically posts the positive comments / reviews and wants to resolve the negative comments / reviews in private. So as long as folks understand that, it really is fine. It is just not an open review site. I have also found the pictures to generally be accurate (maybe a little P.S). So you basically know what you are getting. So overall SNG is a big help.

It is also not Steven's job to police the girls' service survey that they fill out for the selection guide. I am sure the girls want as many customers as possible and don't want to lose any. So as a result perhaps some girls expand their list accordingly, even if they don't provide or don't want to provide such an item.

Relative to Maria, CIM is not something she wants to or likes to provide. If you insist on it, force it I don't know, or perhaps if you threaten to take your business elsewhere. That is not my style, but I would have certainly liked to have been able to make an informed decision in the first place. I am not sure in general how much the girls adjust the age on their webpages. For Maria, she is certainly 40+. Clients all look for different things, but again I guess there is a big incentive for the girls to adjust things to catch as many as possible, rather than being more accurate / straight forward.

Ponegan
07-25-16, 04:10
Went to Bodi last Friday around 6 pm. Selection was not impressive: about 25/30 girls in the room (no fish-bowl as already said), mainly in the 6-7 range, with a couple of 7/8's. I chose one of the few making eye contact: a 23 yo from Hunan, average size and cute face. The performance in the room however was pretty average: mechanical, looking at her phone the whole time and asking for tips (hongbaos via wechat). Overall not a bad experience but not worth the 980 RMB. There are better options in town.

Member #4674
07-25-16, 06:53
Hong song is open. I can give contact info via pm. I prefer 45 mansion over we love (same owner) not sure who your contact is, but I have a very service oriented English speaking contact.

I also just reviewed a place not too far from there (yan'an west of hongmeilu) running a 798 special. Selection is not as good as any of the three above.

There's also a place near the Japanese mall in gubei. Good selection, but the facilities are not quite as nice.

My old favorite, Dong song is open, but I don't have current contact. There's a couple more in the area, but haven't been to them (seem to have good selections though based on wechat updates).

The one place that I'm guessing may have one of the better selections around and should be quite nice (haven't been there), but also pricy is the place in xujiahua where the old sng contact from kangding went.

Happy to share contacts by pm if interested.

Taz.I have been to Hong song several times in 2014, but afterwards it remain closed and now is re-opened, but as all places in Shanghai, the price now in Hongsong is almost the double than in 2014,the price level in Shanghai it is now even closed to Japan and Switzerland and keep rising without stop. So crazy.

I got 2 picture of a Russian girl worked in Hong song, it looked a very pretty stunner.

But doubt about if these pictures are reliable. Afraid about fake or too much photoshop, etc. The price for this girl should be 1900+ RMB, doubt if it is worth.

As Hong song is one of the best Sauna place in Shanghai, would like to have a try when have time to Shanghai.

Shanghai Guide
07-28-16, 18:54
I have been to Hong song several times in 2014, but afterwards it remain closed and now is re-opened, but as all places in Shanghai, the price now in Hongsong is almost the double than in 2014,the price level in Shanghai it is now even closed to Japan and Switzerland and keep rising without stop. So crazy.

I got 2 picture of a Russian girl worked in Hong song, it looked a very pretty stunner.

But doubt about if these pictures are reliable. Afraid about fake or too much photoshop, etc. The price for this girl should be 1900+ RMB, doubt if it is worth.

As Hong song is one of the best Sauna place in Shanghai, would like to have a try when have time to Shanghai.I met several of the western "picture stunners" already in Sauna clubs here around and none of them will fulfill your expectation, if you are looking for that.

Slim.

Big Eyes.

Clear Skin.

Small waste.

Long legs lady you saw on the pictures. Chinese guys are used to that, because they probably will never even on a Wechat posting find a selfie that has not passed the.

Meitu- App and optimized all that. Additional "slimmer" the nose and make the nose shadow more strong, but I doubt that this function is so useful for the Russian girls.

So the Chinese clients will "auto-correct" that and so finally come over with a reduce expectation, which the girls probably can fulfill. But because of that now the sauna.

Managers also will never be able to use lightly "pimped" pictures, because than the "auto-correction of the customers will also reduce the level. Or why they should believe.

This pictures are exactly the "one of a million" that has not been pimped. So from my view it would be a bad idea for a manager to try it out.

And in fact the majority of us Foreigners not deal much better with that. We ask for a "accurate" picture and many guys blame on the girls who use pictures with a lot of photoshop work on it. But on the other side the majority prefer to book exactly this girls finally.

For example Maria (the girl mentioned in the previews posts) used very accurate and realistic pictures. Some month ago she spend some thousands for a Chinese styled.

Shooting including the typical over-optimization by Photoshop. And in the result she double her customer with that. And it's not that she double her appointments but finally the guys send her away because of that. From my view the same guys who expect (and much more hope) that girls they meet will be same or more pretty than on their pictures will not use that to "balance" between the shown level of not Photoshop-ed and Photoshop-ed pictures. They pick out the more pretty ones (probably hoping that this will work one day.

So from my view worth tho think about the Chinese way of "auto-correction". This would probably reduce the frustration often. I sometimes wonder why guys not feel ashamed.

When they complain about the difference regarding to a picture instead of realizing, that they simply not checked the picture with a little bit more attention. Just followed the "dick-decision".

Except he is one of the guys who believe in the chance to meet an extraterrestrial stunner with 2. 5 meter, 45 kg, big round eyes like ET and boobs that would not be hold able on our planet.

From the postings here around this race must came over with many female family members who pretty often work in the Model category in the local sauna clubs. But seems they run away if a foreigner show up, face to face I never met any of them!

So my tip: train your eyes to be able to "re-optimize" the pictures and you will be able to avoid a lot of disappointments with the girls here around.

Have fun.

Member #4674
07-29-16, 06:54
I met several of the western "picture stunners" already in Sauna clubs here around and none of them will fulfill your expectation, if you are looking for that.

Slim.

Big Eyes.

Clear Skin.

Small waste.

Long legs lady you saw on the pictures. Chinese guys are used to that, because they probably will never even on a Wechat posting find a selfie that has not passed the.

Meitu- App and optimized all that. Additional "slimmer" the nose and make the nose shadow more strong, but I doubt that this function is so useful for the Russian girls.

So the Chinese clients will "auto-correct" that and so finally come over with a reduce expectation, which the girls probably can fulfill. But because of that now the sauna.

Managers also will never be able to use lightly "pimped" pictures, because than the "auto-correction of the customers will also reduce the level. Or why they should believe.

This pictures are exactly the "one of a million" that has not been pimped. So from my view it would be a bad idea for a manager to try it out.

And in fact the majority of us Foreigners not deal much better with that. We ask for a "accurate" picture and many guys blame on the girls who use pictures with a lot of photoshop work on it. But on the other side the majority prefer to book exactly this girls finally.

For example Maria (the girl mentioned in the previews posts) used very accurate and realistic pictures. Some month ago she spend some thousands for a Chinese styled.

Shooting including the typical over-optimization by Photoshop. And in the result she double her customer with that. And it's not that she double her appointments but finally the guys send her away because of that. From my view the same guys who expect (and much more hope) that girls they meet will be same or more pretty than on their pictures will not use that to "balance" between the shown level of not Photoshop-ed and Photoshop-ed pictures. They pick out the more pretty ones (probably hoping that this will work one day.

So from my view worth tho think about the Chinese way of "auto-correction". This would probably reduce the frustration often. I sometimes wonder why guys not feel ashamed.

When they complain about the difference regarding to a picture instead of realizing, that they simply not checked the picture with a little bit more attention. Just followed the "dick-decision".

Except he is one of the guys who believe in the chance to meet an extraterrestrial stunner with 2. 5 meter, 45 kg, big round eyes like ET and boobs that would not be hold able on our planet.

From the postings here around this race must came over with many female family members who pretty often work in the Model category in the local sauna clubs. But seems they run away if a foreigner show up, face to face I never met any of them!

So my tip: train your eyes to be able to "re-optimize" the pictures and you will be able to avoid a lot of disappointments with the girls here around.

Have fun.Due to my limited language ability, I can not fully understand your post, but I believe I could got the purpose.

I also got be fooled several times by "picture scams" also "short meet carelessness"(because when the girl show to me very short time to make decision, and I thought I will use the photos I have seen which gives me good expectations to auto-correct the real things, but finally I will found the real thing I got is just much worse, don't know if this is your mean).

So for now, I think in Shanghai there are considerable rip-off or scams compare to Europe especially like in Germany for example, very high price and you got a lot of chance to get rubbish. I ask for these pictures is because Hongsong is may the best quality in sauna world in Shanghai, but from these 2 pictures especially unclear enough I really can not determine if they are true. Especially in this "raid era in China" by the central government, the price for now is too unreasonable and what they do is use "well-made" pictures to fool the guys without experience or stupid but have a lot money and ready to spent them all.

Paris07
07-29-16, 09:52
Long time since I left .

Luckily, I am Chinese. I am going to Sauna and enjoy Dongguan style sevice, haha!

And I know some girls provide anal sex which is my favorite.

Anyone want to john?

Hobbiest1
07-30-16, 02:35
Hello. I just returned home today from a 10 day visit to Shanghai and was wondering about the Shanghai Nightlife Guide (SNG). Is this site still relevant? I know it is up and running but two things lead me to conclude the owner is not very engaged in the site. First, I sent several text messages to try and make an appointment via wechat and NO RESPONSE. Next, I noticed that OVER 50% of the ladies on SNG are NEVER AVAILABLE. When I say never available they weren't available for at least 21 days that I went to the site. IMHO this site serves old content and is not engaged with its customers.

On the more positive side of things, Judys and Manhattan are two great clubs with many ladies of all shapes, sizes, colors and ages.

Although I have officially abandon Shanghai Nightlife Guide any input on SNG would be appreciated.

Huckleberryfinn
07-30-16, 04:13
It's been 20 months since my last visit. Changing work and a six month about with cancer got in the way.

Now I'm in SH for a few days and I'm wondering a few things. There was a sauna in Xiujiahui that used to be called "999" and a while back it was closed for 'renovation'. Does anyone know if it is still there and is it open? Same name or different? I know exactly where it is, so that's not too important.

Second question: I'm staying at the Pullman Sh South, by the South Station. Anyone know of any BBS in the vicinity? Sometimes just a cheap quickie is all that's required!

Well. It's good to be back. I may be hitting Manhattan's or Judy's later tonight if anyone wants to meet up. Unfortunately, I can no longer drink. Dr. 's orders. But he said I can fuck all I want!

Huck.

P.S. Answer here or you can PM me.

SF101
07-30-16, 05:32
For example Maria (the girl mentioned in the previews posts) used very accurate and realistic pictures. Some month ago she spend some thousands for a Chinese styled.

Shooting including the typical over-optimization by Photoshop. And in the result she double her customer with that. And it's not that she double her appointments but finally the guys send her away because of that. From my view the same guys who expect (and much more hope) that girls they meet will be same or more pretty than on their pictures will not use that to "balance" between the shown level of not Photoshop-ed and Photoshop-ed pictures. They pick out the more pretty ones (probably hoping that this will work one day.

Have fun.I assume Maria's current photos on her webpage are the Chinese styled photo shoot you refer to, as they are different than her previous photos. I did not find them to be a big misrepresentation of the real person, of course these are more dolled up, professional etc. I find it surprising potential clients do send her away as she is pretty. I wonder in her case if it is not so much that clients see a big difference between the photos and the real person, but maybe they are expecting someone younger, close to 30 years old (the website says 28) and then someone 40+ shows up at the door. So maybe this is more of an difference in expectation of age rather than the photo are way off. The photos are clearly her, when you see her.

In my experience with Maria, I did not have an issue with her look vs the photos, or the more mature look, but I felt mislead / misrepresented by services she lists on your girl filter (like CIM) that she clearly does not want to or like to provide. This is not a good situation for either party. Who wants to be in a situation of having to make someone do something they are clearly uncomfortable with or don't want to do when there are others on the site that are OK with or enjoy providing the service?

For me this was her bait and switch, not her photos, and in my case I did not mind the extra years over the listed age.

Huckleberryfinn
07-31-16, 04:14
OK, answering my own question, I found Carage's report from March saying 999 was still open under a new name, same location 999 TianYaoQiao Lu. If it's not, I'll know by dinner time.

Still wondering about local BBS' near Pullman Hotel Shanghai South. Anyone? Anyone?

Huck.


It's been 20 months since my last visit. Changing work and a six month bout with cancer got in the way.

Now I'm in SH for a few days and I'm wondering a few things. There was a sauna in Xiujiahui that used to be called "999" and a while back it was closed for 'renovation'. Does anyone know if it is still there and is it open? Same name or different? I know exactly where it is, so that's not too important.

Second question: I'm staying at the Pullman Sh South, by the South Station. Anyone know of any BBS in the vicinity? Sometimes just a cheap quickie is all that's required!

Well. It's good to be back. I may be hitting Manhattan's or Judy's later tonight if anyone wants to meet up. Unfortunately, I can no longer drink. Dr. 's orders. But he said I can fuck all I want!

Huck.

P.S. Answer here or you can PM me.

The Guy
07-31-16, 06:07
Hello. I just returned home today from a 10 day visit to Shanghai and was wondering about the Shanghai Nightlife Guide (SNG). Is this site still relevant? I know it is up and running but two things lead me to conclude the owner is not very engaged in the site. First, I sent several text messages to try and make an appointment via wechat and NO RESPONSE. Next, I noticed that OVER 50% of the ladies on SNG are NEVER AVAILABLE. When I say never available they weren't available for at least 21 days that I went to the site. IMHO this site serves old content and is not engaged with its customers.

On the more positive side of things, Judys and Manhattan are two great clubs with many ladies of all shapes, sizes, colors and ages.

Although I have officially abandon Shanghai Nightlife Guide any input on SNG would be appreciated.Yes, sometimes, no one is manning the store at SNG. Some escorts do their own booking, which is generally preferable.

Huckleberryfinn
07-31-16, 08:18
Well, I swung by there and it is not open. I don't know if that is permanent or just because it is Sunday and the staff is praying in church. You be the judge.

Huck.


OK, answering my own question, I found Carage's report from March saying 999 was still open under a new name, same location 999 TianYaoQiao Lu. If it's not, I'll know by dinner time.

Still wondering about local BBS' near Pullman Hotel Shanghai South. Anyone? Anyone?

Huck.

Midwestern
08-02-16, 14:55
Selected Maria from the SNG website... The website age is listed as 28, but this is very optimistic in my opinion. I know it is tough to judge Asians in general, but if you look more closely she is at least very late thirties if not actually in her 40's... Over all my experience was very similar to the report by Kib123. She loves to kiss and is very good at it. Easy to laugh, easy to talk too... Her BBBJ is average at best. Even though the SNG selection guide indicates that she does CIM. This is not something that she "likes so much" or enjoys... Overall I had a nice time. It was well rounded. She is pretty, sexy, vocal during sex, easy to talk to, offers a good massage and has good English. If you want / value an enthusiastic BBBJ or CIM I would look elsewhere. If you are after a younger provider / hard body I would also look elsewhere. But if you are after a MILF girlfriend experience she is a good choice. Her rates are a little higher than others, but she would be a good choice for a dinner date style in my opinion.Good report. I had a similar experience with Maria. She also offers in-calls (her place). Anybody been at her place? Wondering what that experience is like. Safe? Clean? Etc.

SF101
08-03-16, 06:46
Good report. I had a similar experience with Maria. She also offers in-calls (her place). Anybody been at her place? Wondering what that experience is like. Safe? Clean? Etc.Incall is not her place. She uses a Chinese business hotel FWIW.

Willa1
08-04-16, 15:46
Hi,

Spending a week in Haiyan the end of this month. And can't find any reports. Any ideas where I can look? Unfortunately, English speaking. Will spend one evening in Shanghai (Pudong area) - so will play there, but interested if anything in Haiyan.

Thank you,

Will

Tazman099
08-05-16, 14:18
I've known about this place for a while, but finally went there this afternoon. It's close to the main united family hospital (xianxia lu). It's small and old, here's my typical summation:

Cons:

Old, definitely in need of a remodel.

Hmm, seems like that's the only con I could find.

Pros:

No community shower required.

You can keep your mobile phone with you (I only know of one other place that still allows that).

While it's small and old, the selection is great.

Prices can't be beat - 798 to 1198.

I happened to choose a 19 year old from xinjiang (1198) that probably would have been 1800 to 2000 anywhere else. Tall as hell (legs that just didn't stop) and thin but not skinny. Only downside was the small a cups.

The only other possible downside is that I may have been the first foreigner to be there. Got looks from not only the girls, but the staff as well. But the service was fine, everyone treated me fine. And since you can keep your phone, the language barrier is easy to overcome.

As always, contact info to contributing members only.

Cheers,

Taz.

DanielMccc
08-06-16, 07:59
After reading all the reviews on SNG, I finally took the punt, and arranged to see Jenny for an hour outcall to my place.

I had high hope, but was disappointed. Here's why.

- She seems to be in a rush, without being pushy, she went with the flow, but I felt that she wanted to get it over and done with so that she could move on.

- BJ was OK, a bit on the light side. With 90 positive reviews under her belt, I really expected better. I really wouldn't call in GFE, it's more in between CSE (Clinical Sauna Experience) and GFE.

- She's probably in her late 20's or early 30's. Face was average (yes I am a picky bastard), but I have seen many prettier.

- Value for money? Absolutely not. For 1900 an hour plus taxi, she got up and left for shower right after first round with 30 minutes to go on the clock. Really?

On the upside.

- she does have a nice tight body with curvy in the right place yet petite.

- I know how I would spend my money wiser next time.

Moving on bros.

LoveDemon
08-06-16, 19:01
It wouldn't be worth posting if the 320 rmb got what you laid out for MP+. The place calls itself a spa. But during the special, I got 50 minutes (10 minutes for shower before and after) of good GFE good time, including FS, BBBJ, fingering, dining and sungling with a decent looking younger girl witha nice body. I was amazed at the great value. The special price is good till end of May. I plan at least 2 more trips. If my second experience is as good as my first, I'll provide the details of the place and contact information to contributing friendlies in PM.Hi,

I was looking for some information on MPs in Shanghai where I can get lovely girls massage and extra.

Please help me on this information thanks!

Hobbiest1
08-06-16, 23:05
Sorry but there is no Jenny on SNG or on ***. A link may help.


After reading all the reviews on SNG, I finally took the punt, and arranged to see Jenny for an hour outcall to my place.

I had high hope, but was disappointed. Here's why.

- She seems to be in a rush, without being pushy, she went with the flow, but I felt that she wanted to get it over and done with so that she could move on.

- BJ was OK, a bit on the light side. With 90 positive reviews under her belt, I really expected better. I really wouldn't call in GFE, it's more in between CSE (Clinical Sauna Experience) and GFE.

- She's probably in her late 20's or early 30's. Face was average (yes I am a picky bastard), but I have seen many prettier.

- Value for money? Absolutely not. For 1900 an hour plus taxi, she got up and left for shower right after first round with 30 minutes to go on the clock. Really?

On the upside.

- she does have a nice tight body with curvy in the right place yet petite.

- I know how I would spend my money wiser next time.

Moving on bros.

SF101
08-07-16, 04:43
Good report. I had a similar experience with Maria. She also offers in-calls (her place). Anybody been at her place? Wondering what that experience is like. Safe? Clean? Etc.In my case I had not planning on repeating because the BBBJ was pretty weak compared to others. The moans had some fake aspects to it. Overall I thought the service aspect was kind of so so. In the case of CIM I just did not think to ask up front as it is on her selection filter, but for me it is a bait and switch item just to attract more inquiries / bookings.

This is why I suggested that she is more of a girlfriend dinner date rather than someone you want over for a one or two our session.

HangSeng
08-08-16, 08:41
Does Lisa still do massages in Shanghai? (Lisatantricmassage) or updated contact?

Tried calling buy the number is out of service now apparently.

DanielMccc
08-08-16, 14:39
Sorry but there is no Jenny on SNG or on ***. A link may help.

Sorry but there is no Jenny on SNG or on ***. A link may help.Sorry, should have been clearer, she went with the name HuJing on SNG.

I went to another sauna recently, it's right next to the General Consulate of Ukraine, sorted out my arrival and preference with the manager (a young girl). She was OK, I had better experience with other manager.

Price list.

T - 1700 (one Russian pretty blonde, and I think they offer the cheapest price in town for russian imports).

S - 1400.

M - 1200.

Q - 1000.

A - 680.

Got into the tiny changing room, got changed, proceed to the selection area. Was disappointed with the selection right there and then, lots of T-plate asking for 1700 (some not bad). But I wasn't prepare to spend more than 1500. After a long Mexican stand off, I took my pick, A36, as none of the others were my type.

So, A36 is around early 30's but well kept tight body, the full Bush gave that little extra kick during Nuru.

A36 took her time to please and tease the right spots. I had every inch of my body bathed by her tongue. BBBJ was better than average, lots of tea bagging. Cow girl Doggie were all very responsive and energetic.

Overall 6 out of 10. But hey, the damage was only 680 and I had a good time.

She was hard working, good game. Respect!

GregoryB
08-08-16, 15:07
Lisa is in USA now. PM me for another contact.

Gregory.


Does Lisa still do massages in Shanghai? (Lisatantricmassage) or updated contact?

Tried calling buy the number is out of service now apparently.

Phenyl
08-08-16, 15:29
I have had good results with an MP across from the Shanghai Stadium. Standing on Lingling lu, facing away from the stadium, about 100 meters to left of where Xietu starts, there is a small street leading to the apartment building complex. The MP in question is on the right hand side of that street. Up the stairs, and the mamasan takes you to a room and explains that for 298 RMB the girl gives a massage, then a tit massage, then a HJ. If you ask for BJ, that's an upcharge of 32 RMB to a total of 330 RMB. I never asked about FS.

Yeah, I know it isn't the best deal, but the advantage of this place WAS that the the anmo was pretty decent, and the getting-to-the-oral was good too. BBBJ, CIM, then a bit of a massage afterwards. Shower before and after. You know, sometimes you just want to lie back and be taken care of.

Not this time. The girl (who was actually pretty cute for this type of place) knew nothing about anmo and basically did light touches to run the clock. Instead of removing the massage pants, she tore the seams out (so the elastic stayed on the waist), covered up my dick with something that was thicker and even more unpleasant than a regular condom and proceeded to give a half assed BJ. She would not take off the cover, and kept trying to switch me over to a handjob. Very very low quality experience.

I complained to the mamasan who apologized profusely and then gave me the bill for the full amount. So sorry, so sorry. It's a shame because this place was reliable but now on the no go zone. Tomorrow will try ISG. I've been pretty satisfied with the service they provide.

GregoryB
08-08-16, 17:59
If you search in Google under.

"Marcia massage Shanghai".

You find a perfect independent outcall for massage.

She is really remarkable.

Gregory.


Does Lisa still do massages in Shanghai? (Lisatantricmassage) or updated contact?

Tried calling buy the number is out of service now apparently.

The Guy
08-09-16, 11:49
Yeah, Hujing can be temperamental. I really like her, and she's the only sng girl I currently use. But I know she just doesn't take to some guys (not a reflection on you. She's just plain quirky). But I usually just pay the massage and get quite a bit more.

DanielMccc
08-11-16, 14:59
If you search in Google under.

"Marcia massage Shanghai".

You find a perfect independent outcall for massage.

She is really remarkable.

Gregory.Thanks for sharing. You seem to enjoy her services, so, does she provide FS?

GregoryB
08-12-16, 12:54
Just check her website: there she tells all about what she offers and what not.

Gregory.


Thanks for sharing. You seem to enjoy her services, so, does she provide FS?

NorthSouth
08-15-16, 15:54
I got lost last night in the Daipu Tunnel entrance area, and happened upon a dark street that had about 5 window parlors within 2 pr 3 blocks, with girls sitting inside in their tight short skirts. They were not old and were ok looking in the dim colored neon lights. So I said, what the hell, maybe that was a lucky break getting lost.

I went into the closest one after doubling back. That place had 5 or 6 girls there. I asked how much: it was 200 rmb for FS. I asked how long? The girl said "How long will it take you? 20 minutes?

We went in the back through a hidden door and there were several dark dirty cubicles where there barely enough room to stand beside those old twin beds. I undressed and she just pulled down her panties without lifting her dress. She put on a condom giving an one minute perfunctory BJ. No touching under the dress and she did not take anything else off.

I could hear another John going into the next cubicle. If he got a BJ, it must be shorter than what I got, because they pretty much started doing the dirties right away, with the bed squeaking loudly. I started my own end of things. Three minutes later, the guy next door was finished. The girl I was with immediately asked if I was done, that time was up and if I wanted to continue it would be an extra session. I was reminded of a Woody Allen quip: the food was so horrible and the portion was so small. The whole time could not be more than 10 minutes. I was not about to add another session with her.

I left that place half cocked. I said maybe this was not the norm. So I looked into the next place that had 7 or 8 girls there. The one who unlocked the door said 300 rmb. I said no thanks and left to find a taxi.

200 rmb for 10 minutes would translate to 1200 rmb an hour. You can have a very good time in a sauna with a decent girl for 1200 rmb.

One has to be very desperate to do those window parlors (are they the same as the now mostly closed BBS?) I have noted occasional posts in the forum, asking for info on BSS or window parlors. My experience is: even if you are starving, you probably should not eat river slime.

Tazman099
08-16-16, 08:03
Yeah, Hujing can be temperamental. I really like her, and she's the only sng girl I currently use. But I know she just doesn't take to some guys (not a reflection on you. She's just plain quirky). But I usually just pay the massage and get quite a bit more.I saw her twice. Posted an extremely positive review on sng after the first session. But was so disappointed after the second session that I removed her wechat contact. No sense in trying to post a new review on sng, as we should all know by now that negative reviews are not posted.

SamCan
08-16-16, 10:23
One has to be very desperate to do those window parlors (are they the same as the now mostly closed BBS?) I have noted occasional posts in the forum, asking for info on BSS or window parlors. My experience is: even if you are starving, you probably should not eat river slime.

Hey NOrth / South. Good report and I agree. You get what you pay for. I tried the BBS scene once. I went in and changed my mind and left never doing the deed. There was a string of them close to the Marriott Pudong East. I walked in a few but as dirty as the place was and the quality of the girls just didn't work for me. I did try a really dirty massage shop once with a 100 rmb admission (HJ and roaming included). It was a quick session with someone else's dirty tissues on the floor. I could only imagine...... I swore I wouldn't do it again. I referred to it as "dumpster diving" in a very old post.

Even Judy's / Manhattans with take out back to your hotel is a better value for the money (most times) than these options.

SAMCAN.

Muppets
08-20-16, 08:07
Back in Shanghai for a couple days, Just back from Bodi.

Picked 517, a tight little spinner with a lovely face, curves but slim. I should gone for the chubby that was making salacious faces and not a spinner avoiding eye contact, but, I like them skinny.

Nuru as mechanical as last time, had hoped that was a one off.

BBBJ for a few minutes, OK I guess, only put the head in and the rest was hand action. Well learned tongue on balls for the prescribed time I guess.

On with the rubber, at least she hadn't yet made the 'your western dick is too big can I just suck it' moves yet.

Lay back in missionary with her legs locked at an angle and got the head in then just froze up. Could barely move to fuck her, even just slowly. I gave up after a few minutes, frustrated. She gets phone out and writes it hurts. Fuck's sake. I write that she should breathe and try to relax and we will go slow. Same again. Pretty sure even if I had had a two inch dick it'd be the same. Flipped her over and slowly but surely got to halfway. Was contemplating just having her lick my balls and jerking it out when she started to moan that sorta uncomfortable this kinda hurts but maybe its not too bad way. And that couple with her tight tiny ass made me shoot my load.

Will not go back, as per my last report, a decent HJ is much more fun and less frustrating, as is an FL from a bar most of the time.

Sugoi
08-20-16, 14:18
I was invited by a friend at the last minute to go to Shanghai and we are staying at the Portman Ritz Carlton. Checked out Manhattan and Judy's last night but don't want to take someone back to my room since my friend is next door. Can anyone recommend any saunas or massage places near here?

Also, tomorrow I will be on my own and want to move to a different area. I wouldn't mind being in a more "local" area with a 3 star hotel. Any recommendations?

GregoryB
08-20-16, 17:23
Most Perfect Location and reasonable:

Sofitel Hyland.

Gregory.


I was invited by a friend at the last minute to go to Shanghai and we are staying at the Portman Ritz Carlton. Checked out Manhattan and Judy's last night but don't want to take someone back to my room since my friend is next door. Can anyone recommend any saunas or massage places near here?

Also, tomorrow I will be on my own and want to move to a different area. I wouldn't mind being in a more "local" area with a 3 star hotel. Any recommendations?

SamCan
08-20-16, 22:23
Most Perfect Location and reasonable:

Sofitel Hyland.

Gregory.I tried sofitel for September and October and coming up with $300/ night? Reasonable? I can usually stay at hilton for $200 or less. That is within walking distance to Judy's or Manhattans (3/4 mile) or a 25 RMB taxi ride. I usually walk there and ride back with my date.

Another question. Anyone ordered from SNG lately? The site does not appear to be updated in a couple weeks. Same girl is on special.

Everything ok Steven?

Sam.

Sugoi
08-20-16, 23:40
Are there specific places near Sofitel? I walked that area a couple of times on previous trips but didn't know what to look for.

Samcan, the Ritz Carlton I'm at is also less than $200 and is about a block from Judy's and Manhattan.

Sugoi
08-21-16, 10:10
I'm at the sofitel and see a bunch of massage places around the area. Any to recommend?

Sinofaguo
08-21-16, 10:30
I'm at the sofitel and see a bunch of massage places around the area. Any to recommend?This area is filed with tourist traps. If I were you I wouldn't monger there.

There are many recommandations for other spots in the city in the thread. This one is not a good one.

SamCan
08-21-16, 11:25
Samcan, the Ritz Carlton I'm at is also less than $200 and is about a block from Judy's and Manhattan.I guess I misunderstood. I thought you wanted a nearby hotel to monger at judy's and Manhattans and could not bring a girl back to the hotel because of your colleagues. I like the Hilton because all speak english and it has western amenities. I have done the local thing and sometimes a little Chinese food goes a long way in my book. I speak enough Chinese I can do it. I just prefer a hotel where I can get a western breakfast.

Anyway, if price is a concern, I believe Jing An hotel behind the Hilton Shanghai is much cheaper (use to be close to half the hilton price) and probably a 3 star. If it's not price or location near Judy's I must have missed what the request was for.

Sorry.

SAM.

Sugoi
08-21-16, 12:19
So Gregory was misleading me? Thanks.

I've walked the area at night and have been stopped dozens of times but have been around to know they are probably some type of scam or overpriced massage.

In HK, Thailand (all places I've been), Singapore or other parts of China, all the local massage places offer extras for just a little more than what you can get elsewhere and that's what I was looking for.

I questioned the area since I walked it a couple of previous trips but thought there may be some hidden gems in the area. I'm not much of a takeout person and would rather go to a massage parlor or sauna and be done.

I have 2 nights here so if anyone can still point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.

I'll try one of the massage places in the area and report back as to how overpriced they are.

When you see foot massage and body massage for 90 and oil massage for 250 ish, is that the same as oil massages in Thailand where extras are assumed (with a tip)?

NorthSouth
08-21-16, 18:11
Sofitel in Nanjing Road East is a nice, not overly expensive and convenient hotel to get to from the Airport and to get to places that brought you to Shanghai, which I presume was business and not mongering. It is the hotel you stay in and the area is not to monger in (expensive and full of scams) . But like getting to the places of business, the hotel's central location will be a nice easy hike to get to places of play outside that area.

Hobbiest1
08-23-16, 00:27
WOWEEE. One of the very few times SammyCan and I agree. SNG is totally out-of-date and the owner is very disconnected. This looks like a huge opportunity for someone else to step in and do it right.


I tried sofitel for September and October and coming up with $300/ night? Reasonable? I can usually stay at hilton for $200 or less. That is within walking distance to Judy's or Manhattans (3/4 mile) or a 25 RMB taxi ride. I usually walk there and ride back with my date.

Another question. Anyone ordered from SNG lately? The site does not appear to be updated in a couple weeks. Same girl is on special.

Everything ok Steven?

Sam.

Bad Boy Billy
08-23-16, 06:12
In 17 years visiting Shanghai the Sofitel Hyland is the ONLY hotel where security refused me entry with a nightly bed warmer. Whilst this was 10 yrs back I never did and never will return there. As always YMMV but I will never be bitten twice.

Cooler26
08-23-16, 09:27
Hi,

I am going to a business trip to China from 6 September till 10 September 2016. I will stay at Jiangyin International Hotel Co, Ltd.

I want to have some fun there, so please advise some nice places and girls around.

Thanks!

Phenyl
08-23-16, 11:37
Not sure why SNG is now the subject of Hobbiest's flaming, but it is up and running. The "daily specials" did not update much for the 10 days I was recently in China (so what?) But new reviews were posted and it seemed like the availability of the girls changed from day to day. When I wanted to make an appointment, the service person responded quickly. An appointment was set up with Amy, who came to my hotel demurely dressed and right on time. Once in the room, she provided a wonderful GFE. Friendly, enthusiastic, and eager to please. I expect to repeat with her on my next China visit, provided she is still in "the stable". If not, I'm sure there will be some other cutie that will be more than acceptable.

I have used SNG a few times and was quite satisfied with the service every time. Some may say it is expensive, but for reliability and convenience. Well, it works for me. And no, I am not a shill for Steven or SNG. Just a happy customer that is happy to use his service, especially in these times where a lot of saunas are shut down and the rules seem to be changing in Shanghai.

Sinofaguo
08-23-16, 15:43
especially in these times where a lot of saunas are shut down and the rules seem to be changing in Shanghai.Just because SNG has most of its top listed Saunas as closed doesn't mean that it reflects the state of Shanghai.

Aside from Jingan, most districts are alive and well. Especialy Minhang which is historicaly the most active sauna district and had issues begining of the year but came back with even more spots since then.

Just on this chinese site http://www.shhhy.xyz/forum-124-1.html I count 31 saunas advertising and that's not counting those which advertise on other sites or those not advertising these days.

Thats not counting either the 100's of MPs around the city offering all kinds of services.

Shanghai has a lot more to offer than you seem to believe.

Mike921
08-23-16, 16:22
One has to be very desperate to do those window parlors (are they the same as the now mostly closed BBS?) I have noted occasional posts in the forum, asking for info on BSS or window parlors. My experience is: even if you are starving, you probably should not eat river slime.I agree. I've had a few 'down market' experiences here in Shanghai and they all shared two common characteristics. The lady never disrobed, and time was of the essence. Not being in my 20's, the time thing will always be a deal breaker for me. Statistically, maybe a 10% satisfaction rate in my experience.

Phenyl
08-24-16, 15:12
SNG has something to offer. I'm in China for a week or so at a time a few times a year, and have very little time to explore the options. Although do read the forum regularly So I need to make my "me-time" count and can't really afford the time to waste on poor service (as I described below in an MP). I don't want to spend half my time in an establishment haggling, and don't want to go to the various bars where the best times are late at night.

Again, not a shill for Steven. And have never considered availing myself of his "premium membership" - but just wanted to throw my 2 cents into the discussion of SNG. The market for "services" is divided into many segments. Some value reliability and conveniences, others the thrill of the chase, others most bangs per buck (haha). But it's all good, my friend.

Also, my thoughts about saunas are based on what I'm reading on ISG. I don't read Chinese, so that source of info is not available to me. And I don't read SNG's page on saunas, since I guess I've become lazy and like the delivery service!


Just because SNG has most of its top listed Saunas as closed doesn't mean that it reflects the state of Shanghai.

Aside from Jingan, most districts are alive and well. Especialy Minhang which is historicaly the most active sauna district and had issues begining of the year but came back with even more spots since then.

Just on this chinese site http://www.shhhy.xyz/forum-124-1.html I count 31 saunas advertising and that's not counting those which advertise on other sites or those not advertising these days.

Thats not counting either the 100's of MPs around the city offering all kinds of services.

Shanghai has a lot more to offer than you seem to believe.

Sinofaguo
08-24-16, 18:34
Also, my thoughts about saunas are based on what I'm reading on ISG. I don't read Chinese, so that source of info is not available to meWhich is why I felt it was important to point that this info you got from ISG is either incomplete or outdated. As for the chinese site I posted, you can use translate. Google. Cn if you don't speak chinese.

Not sure why you posted another 2 paragraph about escorts as my post was in no way commenting your choice of using escorts. Just correcting false info you posted here and which can mislead other people.

The Guy
08-26-16, 11:30
Which is why I felt it was important to point that this info you got from ISG is either incomplete or outdated. As for the chinese site I posted, you can use translate. Google. Cn if you don't speak chinese.

Not sure why you posted another 2 paragraph about escorts as my post was in no way commenting your choice of using escorts. Just correcting false info you posted here and which can mislead other people.Yeah, SNG has been way too slow to update escorts and saunas. I don't subscribe anymore. Many great local saunas now not listed on the site. If someone starts a new English site, there's definitely money to be made.

Five Aces
08-27-16, 05:28
I'm at the sofitel and see a bunch of massage places around the area. Any to recommend?If you read the forum you would know that the Sofitel is at the heart of tourist hunting territory.

If you want to get threatened and robbed then go with a tout out front or anywhere on Nanjing pedestrian street.
That is a tout or any sex or age and who might even seem charming.

You should be able to get a good massage for about 250-300 rmb for an hour. Depending on the place you might instead
get a not so good massage. You have to find one you like or read the forum.

I once went to a kind of rough looking massage place near Nanjing Lu. I went because I liked the look of one of the attendants who
I saw out side. Inside the rest of the girls were homely sisters and cousins (I guess). So I played it safe and went for the foot massage.

They charged me enough for a full body massage and had the nerve to show me an English menu with a note saying
they had to have payment in full in advance. She didn't have even the most elementary grasp of massage. At some point a 6' 3" male
entered the parlor. I don't think he was there to change the towels. What she did have a grasp of was my dink as she tried to up sell
me to the deluxe service which I declined and then left.

I just wanted to check the place out but I think I was lucky to not have more trouble there.

NorthSouth
08-27-16, 07:36
Sinofaguo pointed to saunas advertising in the Chinese web sites. I think there are a few caveats.

1. You really should be able to speak Chinese. I can send messages after they were Google translated, but when you get to the places you do have to speak Chinese as some point. The places that cater to local most likely will not understand or speak English. My Chinese is not ready for prime time. When I go to those places for locals, I frequently had a hard time and was often a source of amusement for the staff and the girls.

2. The special prices that were advertised in the websites are often not true. They will tell you those special prices apply to only one or two girls, who as usually not available because they were "servicing other customers" or the prices were "specials that expired a week ago".

3. The local places often have a tiered pricing system and you may be amazed at what they classified at the upper price tiers. You have to look at their tags carefully, and sometimes the girls did not wear the tag and you have to ask (in Chinese). I got caught twice now thinking I was picking a girl from the lower price tier and end up with one from a much higher tier. I like places that have one price for all (Bodi and Sacrosa).

I went to a place that has 4 or 5 price categories, separated by letters and then the numbers 5 ,6,7 etc. I took one from I thought was from the lower price tier because her number started with a number in that category, but I did not notice her tag did not have a lettered beginning. The service was good, I ended up tipping her. When I went to pay, I was several rmb short in cash (the price difference: she was in the top tier, which was a gross overrating, and what I had already gave her as a tip). I ended up having to use my debit card to pay, which I hate because it contains real and traceable personal information and I want to be anonymous. I was so upset that I was not paying attention to whether they were watching me entering the PIN. Because I am paranoid in nature, I changed my debit card PIN.

Graham111
08-29-16, 14:23
Had a real nice visit at Bodi. Selected a young, small girl with an unbeleiveable body. Good massage, mediocre BJ but took a good pounding for 45 minutes. Was really surprised her pussy was not that tight. So that was a bummer. Pretty strange set-up with the clothes, bouncers, through the halls. But did enjoy myself.

Bigfoot16
08-31-16, 06:15
I had a few day layover in Shanghai on my way from LA to meet the SO in Chengdu. I lucked out at Manhattan and found a nice VN woman by the name of Anna who proposed 1000 rmb for the night. We had a great time and I called her back the next night for dinner and another night splitting the sheets. When we met she was dressed provocatively, but as we exited she grabbed her other bag and by the time we arrived she looked like a normal girl on the street. She scrubbed me real good in the shower. She says her plan is to retired back to Ho Chi Minh City in six months. I wish her well.

DanielMccc
09-02-16, 06:13
Yeah, SNG has been way too slow to update escorts and saunas. I don't subscribe anymore. Many great local saunas now not listed on the site. If someone starts a new English site, there's definitely money to be made.Now I am thinking of a sauna tour for those who maybe interested in the sauna scene. PM me if interested?

Andromadx
09-02-16, 22:53
I had a few day layover in Shanghai on my way from LA to meet the SO in Chengdu. I lucked out at Manhattan and found a nice VN woman by the name of Anna who proposed 1000 rmb for the night. We had a great time and I called her back the next night for dinner and another night splitting the sheets. When we met she was dressed provocatively, but as we exited she grabbed her other bag and by the time we arrived she looked like a normal girl on the street. She scrubbed me real good in the shower. She says her plan is to retired back to Ho Chi Minh City in six months. I wish her well.Could you shared her wechat or WhatsApp?

Thanks.

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Tazman099
09-03-16, 13:02
Tried a new escort service today. Lily Shanghai massage. Communicating via wechat was quite easy, lili clearly speaks good English. Gave me real pictures and has rediculously good prices (1500 for 2 hours). But while I don't doubt the girl that came was the same girl from the picture, what I got was something much larger than expected (she perhaps weighs as much as me). The service itself was ok, I just couldn't get into it.

Could be worth a try again, just need to double check everything. But the price is right versus similar services (sng, rain, etc.).

Taz.

LeadingRebel
09-04-16, 11:45
Arrived in Shanghai for another trip. Went to Judy's but it had moved location. Fortunately only a 2 min walk, heading towards Manhattan bar. In fact it's on the end of the same road that Manhattan is on. Much easier to relocate if one club is a little light on your desires.

New place is larger than the old one but with good band (think they're the same).

Had a chance to have a 3 some with two Viet, but one was a little too talkative, whilst her friend was more mature and much more my style. I also had eye on another young fit girl but then saw her smoking. Puts me off because hate kissing an ash tray.

Decided to keep with my mature Viet girl and we had some fun in the bar before heading back to hotel. She was sweet. Good kisser and typical smoking hot fit and slim body. Always gets me going.

Showered together and she gave a blow job and hand job in the shower. Went on bed and had all the usual activities. She was good and fortunately, because I was jet lagged, I couldn't cum quickly. So we made slow and very passionate love. Kissing and biting ears.

Eventually fell asleep with her on my arms. Woke in morning, had a more intense fuck and she finished me off in her mouth with her finger massaging my prostrate.

Paid her 2000 for the experience and off she went. Have her on wechat so will see her again if have time.

Something about Vietnamese girls just make me so fucking horny.

All in all, new Judy's seems bigger and better than old one with more space. Go check it out.

GregoryB
09-05-16, 03:15
If you pay 20 $ you can participate in the PM system.

I'd love to get the WeChat info.

Gregory.


Arrived in Shanghai for another trip. Went to Judy's but it had moved location. Fortunately only a 2 min walk, heading towards Manhattan bar. In fact it's on the end of the same road that Manhattan is on. Much easier to relocate if one club is a little light on your desires.

New place is larger than the old one but with good band (think they're the same).

Had a chance to have a 3 some with two Viet, but one was a little too talkative, whilst her friend was more mature and much more my style. I also had eye on another young fit girl but then saw her smoking. Puts me off because hate kissing an ash tray.

Decided to keep with my mature Viet girl and we had some fun in the bar before heading back to hotel. She was sweet. Good kisser and typical smoking hot fit and slim body. Always gets me going.

Showered together and she gave a blow job and hand job in the shower. Went on bed and had all the usual activities. She was good and fortunately, because I was jet lagged, I couldn't cum quickly. So we made slow and very passionate love. Kissing and biting ears.

Eventually fell asleep with her on my arms. Woke in morning, had a more intense fuck and she finished me off in her mouth with her finger massaging my prostrate.

Paid her 2000 for the experience and off she went. Have her on wechat so will see her again if have time.

Something about Vietnamese girls just make me so fucking horny.

All in all, new Judy's seems bigger and better than old one with more space. Go check it out.

LeadingRebel
09-08-16, 11:08
Went to Judy's bar on Tuesday and said to myself I would just drink and enjoy the music and not take a girl back with me to my hotel.

Had a good time in the bar and all was good until I bumped into the same girl I had met on the previous Saturday. Stopped and chatted and her perfume was intoxicating. Thinking of work the next day I decided to say no and left the bar alone.

Got back to hotel and could still smell her perfume on me. And I was as horny as hell. Messaged her on wechat and said I had to see her.

15 minutes later. She's in my room and we're taking a shower together with all the usual trimmings. Fucked long and hard on the bed and then to sleep. Work was in the morning so had to leave some energy.

Woke in morning and before I got ready for work we had a second round. Fucking in all positions until she finished me off in her mouth. When she whispered "cum in my mouth darling" I couldn't hold back any longer and emptied my tank into her welcoming mouth.

Cleaned up, showered and off we both went. Me to work and her to her place and probably back to bed.

Very happy with her and she is a genuine non smoking non drinking woman who I really like. I would definitely see her again.

Back to Europe on Sunday for one week. And then fly back to Kuala Lumpur for next weekend. I suspect I will have a report coming from my trip to Beach Club in KL.

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GregoryB
09-10-16, 02:06
If you had a full membership you could provide more information you can not do in public!

Would be great to share myself experiences.

Gregory.


Went to Judy's bar on Tuesday and said to myself I would just drink and enjoy the music and not take a girl back with me to my hotel.

Had a good time in the bar and all was good until I bumped into the same girl I had met on the previous Saturday. Stopped and chatted and her perfume was intoxicating. Thinking of work the next day I decided to say no and left the bar alone.

Got back to hotel and could still smell her perfume on me. And I was as horny as hell. Messaged her on wechat and said I had to see her.

15 minutes later. She's in my room and we're taking a shower together with all the usual trimmings. Fucked long and hard on the bed and then to sleep. Work was in the morning so had to leave some energy.

Woke in morning and before I got ready for work we had a second round. Fucking in all positions until she finished me off in her mouth. When she whispered "cum in my mouth darling" I couldn't hold back any longer and emptied my tank into her welcoming mouth.

Cleaned up, showered and off we both went. Me to work and her to her place and probably back to bed.

Very happy with her and she is a genuine non smoking non drinking woman who I really like. I would definitely see her again.

Back to Europe on Sunday for one week. And then fly back to Kuala Lumpur for next weekend. I suspect I will have a report coming from my trip to Beach Club in KL.

SamSam2004
09-10-16, 14:56
Hello,

Would someone know a place, like a nightclub (disco.) where I could meet freelancers?

Event if they're not Chinese it's OK. I don't mind Thais, pinas.

The only thing is that I don't want to have to pay prices like 1000 RMB. I mean almost 150 $ for a girl is incredibly expensive for me.

Thank you guys.

Tazman099
09-11-16, 12:07
Hello,

Would someone know a place, like a nightclub (disco.) where I could meet freelancers?

Event if they're not Chinese it's OK. I don't mind Thais, pinas.

The only thing is that I don't want to have to pay prices like 1000 RMB. I mean almost 150 $ for a girl is incredibly expensive for me.

Thank you guys.Depends on what you want, but if 1000 RMB is incredibly expensive for you, you may be in the wrong place to monger.

Bigfoot16
09-12-16, 05:26
Could you shared her wechat or WhatsApp?

Thanks.

In addition, I failed to mention that she picked me, and we talked about how she goes about getting clients and she would not want me giving her personal information to a total stranger.

Shanghai Guide
09-12-16, 19:10
Hello,

Would someone know a place, like a nightclub (disco.) where I could meet freelancers?

Event if they're not Chinese it's OK. I don't mind Thais, pinas.

The only thing is that I don't want to have to pay prices like 1000 RMB. I mean almost 150 $ for a girl is incredibly expensive for me.

Thank you guys.Unfortunately seems you really end up in the wrong city. Actually it's a mistake often done, that guys compare Shanghai with Bangkok, but in many things you should better compare it with New York instead, for example when you check rentals, real estate market or also the "girls business".

It's a clear sign, how expensive that market has become the last years, if you check the job offer pages. Actually a handjob massage place (where for sure she not have to fuck with anyone, not even blow the guys) already offer a guarantee income from at least 20.000 RMB, some even 30.000 RMB per month. So if a girl has a option like that if she only offer HJ massage, why she should go to a pickup bar to find guys who expect to fuck her for less than 1000 RMB.

Beside that, the "freelancer pickup" is a typical "foreign business", so a small market here in Shanghai. Chinese guys nearly never to a pickup place to find girls. If they want to fuck on location, they go to a sauna club, if they want to take out the girl they go to a KTV. So there is no need and that means also no chance, that there would be a pickup scene beside the foreigner market.

Additional to that, Shanghai has become one of the only cities in China where this kind of business still running without too many restrictions and worries about raids and so on, so there are many guys who want to have fun here, but same time not so many girls for that available for a reasonable price (see above), so that for example the "bottleneck" for running a successful sauna business here are not the customers any more. This is easy to solve, the actual bottleneck is, that it has become very hard for a sauna to find attractive girls who are willing to work for a reasonable rate, what is by the way the reason, why they nearly all now have to "model" price and normal price, because otherwise no chance to get very hot girls any more. And also the reason why all saunas charge nearly double than some years ago. So if you come to Shanghai and you expect to get cheap sex from attractive girls, than you will most probably fail actually.

There is a chance, but for that you simply need to reduce your expectation about the girls "quality" a lot. The typical "street girls" for example around Manhattan club still fuckable for 200 or 300 RMB, but here we talk about mature ladies in the age of 40+ years and not the most attractive MILFs you probably able to find in Shanghai.

The most easy way to solve that problem is a weekend trip to Manila ((or more safe this days) to Bangkok or a Vietnam City. The air fee is low compared with the "cut off" you can get on the girls fee, so one or two rounds most probably will have been able to let you reach the "return on investment".

Sorry that there is no better news for you, but no one can find what you are looking for, if this simply not exist.

NorthSouth
09-13-16, 18:08
Shanghai Guide described what had been happening to the Shanghai mongering scenes in the last year or so very well. Prices are rising, the number of girls in many places are fewer and looks at the sub 900-1000 rmb market may have gone down somewhat.

I started mongering in earnest rather late because I was working domestically in the US until my company transferred me to China 2 years ago. I am trying to make up for lost time. (No, SamSam, 1000 rmb is not incredibly expensive!) My preference is to try a new girl each time. But with a lot of places closing (and opening, but it is hard to get hook up with new places all the time), managers transferring, and fewer girls working, it is getting harder to have good and different pick each time.

I was at this place a couple of days ago, turned out the girl I picked was with me a few weeks ago. She remembered me. She gave me great service back then, and I tipped her. This time she was extra tampering with unhurried and very good GF service. I had a great time. I am beginning to wonder whether it is better to aim mainly for variety and new experiences vs developing a "relationship" with some girls who gave good services with repeat businesses.

SamCan
09-14-16, 10:06
. I am beginning to wonder whether it is better to aim mainly for variety and new experiences vs developing a "relationship" with some girls who gave good services with repeat businesses.North South, I believe the answer is both! I prefer to have small list of faves that I continue to cultivate but also get variety in between. Sometimes you want a luxury meal and sometimes you're willing to risk having a big mac (experience of the girl not the looks).

Sometimes the Big Mac you ordered turns into a new luxury meal. Then she gets added to the list!.

I have not been to shanghai in about 9 months. The first time its gone that long in 7 years. I do have a viet that I continue to talk to via whatsapp. She is more than ready to fly to shanghai and meet me when I come over. I won't be exclusive for her anymore than she will be for me. But she will be on the menu!

Sam Can.

NorthSouth
09-14-16, 17:09
I think that will be what I'll do: bookmark some favs.

Are you stuck in the States? My condolence! I dread the days when the same fate befalls me and I have to leave this monger's paradise.

SamCan
09-15-16, 02:27
Are you stuck in the States? My condolence! I dread the days when the same fate befalls me and I have to leave this monger's paradise.Yea, stuck in the desert here. Not sure when I will get back. I miss steven's girls, my faves and the new experiences.

Sugoi
09-17-16, 07:49
If you read the forum you would know that the Sofitel is at the heart of tourist hunting territory.

If you want to get threatened and robbed then go with a tout out front or anywhere on Nanjing pedestrian street.
That is a tout or any sex or age and who might even seem charming.

You should be able to get a good massage for about 250-300 rmb for an hour. Depending on the place you might instead
get a not so good massage. You have to find one you like or read the forum.

I once went to a kind of rough looking massage place near Nanjing Lu. I went because I liked the look of one of the attendants who
I saw out side. Inside the rest of the girls were homely sisters and cousins (I guess). So I played it safe and went for the foot massage.

They charged me enough for a full body massage and had the nerve to show me an English menu with a note saying
they had to have payment in full in advance. She didn't have even the most elementary grasp of massage. At some point a 6' 3" male
entered the parlor. I don't think he was there to change the towels. What she did have a grasp of was my dink as she tried to up sell
me to the deluxe service which I declined and then left.

I just wanted to check the place out but I think I was lucky to not have more trouble there.Thanks for the info. I had stayed in the area a few years ago and never ventured with any of the touts asking about massage. I didn't see too many places but I do remember a couple of saunas around and actually went to a couple. When I went back, they were no longer there so I thought perhaps areas had changed.

Many, many years ago I once went with a tout in Shinjuku, Japan and went upstairs to a bar with no music and one older girl. I politely declined and left and decided not to go with a tout again.

I will be back in a bit and really am more of a sauna or massage parlor person. I will probably be at the Shangri-la hotel by Judy's so if anyone can point me in the right direction, it is appreciated.