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SamCan
03-19-18, 22:07
Ladies in their mid thirties and under 5 ft height will certainly agree for 1000 rmb two pops in Manhattan. Sadly I was not interested in these both types and was looking for the most sexier and taller ones. That's why I was quoted higher prices.

Prince, EVERY TIME I mention a girl that went for less than your quoted prices you take this up and post it again. You seem to want to find a reason why I find girls at 1000 and you don't.

They took 1000 because they were 30, they took a 1000 because they were short (and 27 and very hot if you read the other reviews on Tina from midwestern and Canyon11). They took 1000 because they are not your type. Heck, I had a girl that had pictures in a magazine that agreed to 2 pops for 1000. She showed me the magazine pictures of her walking the beach in a Bikini.

I have had very pretty girls take a 1000 and very pretty girls want more. I am no stud and I have posted many times some girls will and some girls won't. This board is about understanding the going rate, the low and the high. It is not about knowing how high you can spend. In all my mongering, I have never had one girl say "oh that's too much, give me less".

The other problem is we talk apples and oranges. You are quoting LT, I only do ST but ask for 2 pops. Most time I get it. If I don't I either compromise or move on.

Maybe the problem isn't with the girls that are willing to take 1000. Maybe the problem is how many girls are willing to go with you for 1000.
Or is that your concern when I post these rates? Do you take this as some personal attack on you? No girl would ever want someone else for less than they want Prince... right? These girls aren't machines. They will go with anyone but some they would prefer to go with.....

If you want to know what's possible ( on what to pay based on how things go and how bad you want her and if she won't budge).then make your own decision... then , listen to Sam.

if you want to know how much money a girl will take from you.... Then read the board. you will find both


SAM OUT.

Midwestern
03-21-18, 10:26
They have a 588 stress relief massage.

Pre-crackdown, it was a room with shower, and a pretty young gal would give a sensuous oil massage with lots of attention to the groin and ass, but you had to tip 300 for a release. I know 588+300 is a ripoff, but the massage was so sensuous that it was worth it once in a while.

During crackdown, you had to shower in a separate shower room, and an average looking gal would give a massage with NO OIL, and you had to wear top and bottom PAJAMAS, and they also put a towel on top of the pajamas, and then, at the very end, she would ask if you wanted a release, and for 300, she'd reach under the PJs and quickly jack you off.

Post-crackdown, you still have to shower in the shower room, but the paper blue underwear is back, and so is the oil. My provider was ugly, but had nice legs, gave a very sensuous massage, massaging my entire package while I am facing down and facing up, she even rips off the blue underwear entirely, but when she asked me how much I'd tip for a release, I said 200, and she scoffed at it with a laugh and said no, then I offered 300 and she said never mind, and she proceeded to massage my legs, also sensuously, and she was done. WTF? Why forgo an easy 300 for 3 minutes of work?

My guess is that Americans visiting China for the first time, staying at the Crowne, must be over-tipping. But still, it doesn't make sense.

In other news, I rode a ride around the Ronghua block in Gubei, and everything still looks shut. I did see one MP on Golden Street with a middle-aged woman behind the door wearing a short black dress though, but I was not tempted. I guess Gubei is nowhere near returning to its old self. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.

In the meantime, I will stick with Spring. I gave up on 76 Changshou. That place is not clean. I recently got sick immediately after a session.

SamCan
03-22-18, 00:48
They have a 588 stress relief massage.

Pwhen she asked me how much I'd tip for a release, I said 200, and she scoffed at it with a laugh and said no, then I offered 300 and she said never mind, and she proceeded to massage my legs, also sensuously, and she was done. WTF? Why forgo an easy 300 for 3 minutes of work?

.Its the nature of the 5 star hotels. I had a chinese girlfriend who worked at both western and chinese hotels. She would get 1000 RMB years ago for a hand job. (I know what you're thinking, that's what she told me). I believe this to be true. She was at the Raddison in Pudong. I stayed at the Marriot across the street and the hotel had a discount massage. She refused to do HJ for less than 900 tip as well.

Beijing4987
03-22-18, 04:02
At the Pudong airport hotel 7 years ago I was quoted 500 for BBBJ plus house fee for shitty non massage. I settled for he for 200.

Paal8
03-23-18, 12:43
I used to love the hilton but this is so much better and you don't have to deal with Taxi gouging. There are stairs on the far side (from manhattans) that you can walk up as a short cut to going around front with your girl. You can find cheaper but not better for Mongering.

There are also mirrors around the bathtub in the bathroom in your room. ..... if you are so inclined to......... Uh....... You can figure it out.
It was Tina's idea actually.

SAM.Best sales pitch ever for the Portman!

Byebye Swissotel from now on.

Msukc
03-24-18, 03:37
Best sales pitch ever for the Portman!

Byebye Swissotel from now on.Staying at the Ritz Portman in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to this location. PM me if anyone wants to meet up on April 6th or 7th.

Paal8
03-24-18, 11:29
Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.

Massage Addict
03-24-18, 22:02
Just give us the place, I doubt Chinese police care much about MP with HJ right now.


Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.

Massage Addict
03-24-18, 22:17
Arrived Shanghai yesterday afternoon, came to the hotel for a quick shower and then off for German food for dinner.

Went to 148 Maoming Road Spring Massage, place didn't seem busy at all. Tipped the manager 50 RMB and told him I wanted a young girl with good service.

In walked a 38 KG spinner. Perfect for me. No English however. Gave a so so massage on the back and then went and propped my legs up on her legs and proceeded to tease the crap out of me.

Flip and the negotiations start. She wanted 300 to get naked, I countered with 300 for naked and BJ (I always get turned down here for extras like this), she countered with 500. I told her 500 for BJ and DATY. She told me through my translate app that she never allows that, but business must be slow as she settled on 300 for naked and DATY.

This girl was tiny! And perfect and tasted so fresh. 10 minutes and she was squirming all over the bed, as usual of a Chinese girl, no insertion of fingers, but when she got really excited I pushed one in and she exploded. She was so tight that a finger could barely fit.

She gave me her WeChat and we discussed her coming to my hotel on my day off. Of course she wants a fortune (5000 rmb) but we will see. She tells me business is very slow and she needs some money.

328 for the massage, and yes, the shower is still in the room.

Came back to the hotel to sleep and then headed to Judy's at 4:00 am, closing time and stood outside while the leftovers walked out. Tina and Lilly were two of the ones looking for a late night take-home. Tina offered 1000 rmb, but only one pop. I guess that being 400 am she didn't want to fuck until the afternoon. I really wasn't planning on taking anybody home unless the price and girl were right, so I talked to a few girls and one offered 500 rmb for a blow job, problem was when she smiled I feared for my little brother.

I headed back to the Swissotel and hung out out front smoking, it was 4:30 and saw a couple of gals leaving doing the walk of shame. One gal came over and got a cigarette, Lisa, 31 from HCMC, very pretty girl, maybe 50 kg of lust. She had a bad customer and just wanted to talk, I let her explain her situation and we chatted for about a half an hour. Never once did she pressure me to take her to my room or talk about money. She gave me her WeChat and I asked if she wanted to go to dinner and dancing tonight. She told me she had a German boyfriend that was back in Germany, and that she would like to go to dinner. She did say that no boom boom without pay, as that would be cheating on her boyfriend. These girls and the way they justify what they do. I told her dinner and dancing and then we would see, my bet is she doesn't follow through, but if she wants to go out for a normal night, I'll put the charm on and see what I can get.

Now it's so damn early, wish I knew of a 24 hour massage parlor close with happy ending.

PlaceKicker
03-24-18, 23:23
Out of just trying to find a new spot in Jing'an, came across a MP that was probably a little too new at 491 Beijing Rd. Only 2 people recruited to work there so far, average / a little bit older for 8 or so rooms. The one I got. Not chosen, probably was based on taking turns. Didn't even have a routine really figured out yet, still trying to figure things out along the way. 298 for basic, 398 for nude, went with the hundred extra if only to avoid the awkwardness of her doing this for an hour in full winter get-up. Didn't seem to get much other benefit aside from body press (usually 'slide' would be the normal descriptor, but not quite apt in this case).

Might get better eventually with more people or a different one, hard to tell. Probably going to wait a bit before trying to find out.

Keric333
03-25-18, 01:23
Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.There's only 2 massage places near fumin lu. One is called Yili and the other is a Thai themed massage. Both are chains. You basically just tipped 2-300 for a HJ, It's just a HJ. Really don't think there's a need to pvt for info. If you want to help out others and share, especially since its just a location, then just share.

Happy Easter all!

K.

RobSH
03-25-18, 02:00
Finally found an MP downtown near Fumin Lu, they are a chain doing good business providing a whole range of veggie massages but they have a special option on the menu. PM me for the location.

Enjoyed a proper massage followed by a good prostate massage and HJ, damage 600 for two hours.You need to be a senior member to PM. You can just give the name of the chain here, and people can work on the locations for themselves, but honestly 600 RMB is a little high, even for 2 hours. The going rate at Spring or Fudi is 400 RMB for 90 minutes.

Aurangzeb
03-25-18, 06:44
In other news, I rode a ride around the Ronghua block in Gubei, and everything still looks shut. I did see one MP on Golden Street with a middle-aged woman behind the door wearing a short black dress though, but I was not tempted. I guess Gubei is nowhere near returning to its old self. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.What is Golden Street?

Paal8
03-25-18, 10:50
You need to be a senior member to PM. You can just give the name of the chain here, and people can work on the locations for themselves, but honestly 600 RMB is a little high, even for 2 hours. The going rate at Spring or Fudi is 400 RMB for 90 minutes.Crossing with Julu Lu.

Haven't tried Spring yet so not sure if it Spring is basically a mediocre massage + HJ place or a legit massage place with a special menu option tended to by certain staff.

This place is the latter. If Spring is as well then that would be better value. Any opinions?

Midwestern
03-25-18, 14:23
What is Golden Street?It is Huangjincheng Road, between Yili Road and Gubei Road. It's a a pedestrian street.

JapanDa5
03-25-18, 14:58
Hey everyone,

Had a bad experience in Home Inn hotel in shanghai, got a calling card under the door with the lady, sent her text messages using baidu translate. Girl shows up, 500 rmb, do our thing, and then she calls a dude up on the phone, and I don't understand what they saying, and she ends up typing 3000 in her phone, and I pretend to not understand. Luckily, I didn't have much on me and my bags were packed, so I just grabbed my bag and went to the lobby and checked out. , went to the better hotel across he street and checked in there.

Anyone know more detail about this scam? I thought it was pretty stupid, who is going to fall for a threat over the phone, and even if the people did show up, aren't they scared of the cameras? And why even do the deed, and not just try to extort upon entering the room. Be safe guys, the number on the card was 13xxxxxxx30, and the other number they used was 15xxxxxxx70.

RobSH
03-26-18, 00:05
Crossing with Julu Lu.

Haven't tried Spring yet so not sure if it Spring is basically a mediocre massage + HJ place or a legit massage place with a special menu option tended to by certain staff.

This place is the latter. If Spring is as well then that would be better value. Any opinions?Spring is (generally) good massage + HJ, with some special menu options tended by certain staff at certain locations.

Fudi is (generally) good massage +HJ. No special menu options possible.

RobSH
03-26-18, 00:07
Crossing with Julu Lu.

Haven't tried Spring yet so not sure if it Spring is basically a mediocre massage + HJ place or a legit massage place with a special menu option tended to by certain staff.

This place is the latter. If Spring is as well then that would be better value. Any opinions?Are the initials SDS? I must say, I am surprised extras were available.

Keric333
03-26-18, 08:40
Are the initials SDS? I must say, I am surprised extras were available.The place is called Tai xiang shou in Chinese. Never noticed an English name. It's above a restaurant called mustache, right on the corner.

Sato San
03-26-18, 14:02
Shanghai is nice good weather and while worry the about lack of saunas I got coco wechat and hooked up with cherry first night and she was phenomenal really hot time with cherry from shanghai nightlife and booking her was so painless met her down at the lobby brought her up it was cool coco is really good then I visited Manhattans with no expectations or rather low expectations and I got there early the place was packed with some Chinese guys at 9 but not nearly as full as it normally is most of the foreigners like me were at blind pig waiting I guess for things to pick up and girls to arrive but I went in and parked at a table because of a review I read here and it sort of work the out cause at 930 the place filled with girls lots of hot girls too I was feeling the vibe good music and by 10 pm all the tables were filled with Chinese guys because the economy is sort of doing well they get bottles at their table and the bar does really well from the Chinese they don't always take away but the house doesn't care once they sell drinks and no the girls can't move on they stay with the tables with bottles whether they get taken out or not so I met a girl you know how it goes she was hot we had some chemistry prices were kinda high but I took her out and it was amazing she wasn't a pillow queen we walked out to escape the taxis hustlers and it was a done deal good night get there early and park yourself at a table buy a drink or two for the house and it will be a good time.

Aurangzeb
03-26-18, 17:30
It is Huangjincheng Road, between Yili Road and Gubei Road. It's a a pedestrian street.I went to the area and scoped it out. The Golden Road is, as you said, quite dry. YMMV, but on the face of it, the spas are either closed or legit.

I grabbed a coffee and I was walking back to Gubei Carrefour, when I saw an open area with several 'MASSAGE" signs. On closer inspection, all the lights were off, and they appeared to be closed. But I thought I saw some movement in one, so I sat on a bench, sipped my coffee and just observed. Surely enough, after a few minutes, I saw a guy walk directly to the spa, and as he approached, a girl in a short black skirt opened the door for him and locked it immediately after he entered.

So there's something going on.

I walked up to the door, and a different girl, this one in a white skirt, unlocked the door and let me in. She locked it behind me, said 'body massage?' and when I nodded, walked me past the reception, where several girls in various stages of undress / skimpyness were hanging around. They all smiled. The white skirt girl took me straight up to a small room with a bathroom / shower cubicle. I tried asking for a menu, but it seems only this 'body massage' is available, and the cost is CNY300. I wasn't very comfortable, was wondering if this was one of those places that the goons show up in, after the deed. It was quite clear that this was not a regular massage spa.

She asked me to take a shower, didn't offer a disposable pair of 'shorts', and wasn't shy about my nudity as I took a shower, so I knew I'd get something.

To cut a longish story short, she gave me a decent back massage, asked me to flip over, tapped my cock a few times and asked if I wanted anything else, by making a fist and pantomiming a handjob, pointing at her pussy, and pointing at her mouth. So pretty much all is on offer, handjob, blowjob or FS. Asking rates for the tip started at 200 for a HJ, 500 for a BJ and 1000 for FS. We agreed on 300 for a BJ and what followed was an unhurried, dynamite bareback deep-throat blowjob with CIM.

So in the final tally the house gets 300, no matter what, and 300 to the girl. Monica.

Cheers!

Midwestern
03-27-18, 02:38
I walked up to the door, and a different girl, this one in a white skirt, unlocked the door and let me in. She locked it behind me,...
Great report. There were earlier reports on here that some Gubei MPs were operating discreetly, and your report confirms it and provides additional good intel. My main concern is risk. They are obviously taking a risk, and thus so are you. But I suppose we are all taking some risk every time we hobby, haha. For what it's worth, the asking pricees in this area before the crackdown was often 300/500/800 for HJ / BJ / FS (maybe this was the foreigner pricing, but the MPs in this area were mostly there to cater to the Korean and Japanese crowd anyway), but it was easy to negotiate it down to 200/400/600. At some MPs, 500 was standard for FS. BTW, FS usually was an experience similar to BBS. Only difference was the shower before the deed and the massage after the deed. Maybe the service will be better, but I may not risk it for now.

Sinofaguo
03-27-18, 05:26
These MPs have lights off for obvious reasons. No point giving too much detail in public unless you wan't to see them completly shut down.

Sato San
03-27-18, 11:48
Monday at Manhattans was not so good not as many girls because they tend to take Monday off after the busy weekend especially if they are one of the hotter girls that get taken out a lot or don't have a Chinese sugar daddy not many western guys on Monday the place was packed with local guys and they basically had all the prettiest and also younger girls with them so pickings were slim it was a fun night in terms of entertainment three live singers and some hot Gigi dancers in black fishnets do a few songs but generally lackluster from Sunday also seem to have issues with taxi drivers for three times in different taxis they refused to drop me close to the venue one guy made me walk a block and refused to go closer which is strange maybe they have reasons I will give address of the blind pig instead and hope that solves the problem maybe I should have done takeaway from shanghai nightlife instead. But girls in Manhattan speak good English which helps with the connection.

Roger595
03-27-18, 16:49
Dropped by Huashan road area last night just to have a feel.

Confirmed what was mentioned previously, stretch of bars with a few girls in each (looks wise 4 7/10).

All empty except for one tightly embraced Caucasian. Seems to be having fun.

Too quiet for my liking but most probably be back again to check it out over next few days.

Midwestern
03-29-18, 06:09
Given that Steven and his assistant of SNG got busted, how can we be sure that the new nightlife setup is safe to use? Did any mongers get busted along with Steven and his assistant? I think Boag, who reported on here, got busted too. But how?

Sinofaguo
03-29-18, 18:43
Given that Steven and his assistant of SNG got busted, how can we be sure that the new nightlife setup is safe to use? Did any mongers get busted along with Steven and his assistant? I think Boag, who reported on here, got busted too. But how?From what I was told SNG was taking a 30% cut on the girls, 10% for the assistant, 20% for Steven and had forced most of the girls to use the hotline in order to track the business and charge them the fees. It wasn't too difficult for the cops to catch the assistant and use the assistant to catch steven.

What happened to SNG can happend to any other pimp. And of course customers can be collateral damage.

SamCan
03-30-18, 00:24
From what I was told SNG was taking a 30% cut on the girls, 10% for the assistant, 20% for Steven and had forced most of the girls to use the hotline in order to track the business and charge them the fees. It wasn't too difficult for the cops to catch the assistant and use the assistant to catch steven.

What happened to SNG can happend to any other pimp. And of course customers can be collateral damage.I can't talk about the cut because Steven never told me (or I don't remember). Over beers, we discussed it once. The girls using the website hotline were not strong enough in english to talk to clients. The girls like Bevery, Cathy and others didn't need the hot line and paid a monthly fee for the site.

If you used wechat it was in the assistants phone when you messaged what / who you wanted. The phone was confiscated when they caught her. It was down hill from there.

Although I did partake on quite of few of the SNG girls, I always found Judy's and Manhattans a safer bet. One conversation, one girl, one cash transaction. I also like doing my shopping in person vs pictures on line

GregoryB
03-30-18, 07:29
In Shanghai to find someone to go out with, have dinner or just a great time. Write a PM to me. I finally found someone, a real serendipity, I did have repeatedly now a very great and entertaining time.

She speaks fluent English, is in her early thirties and just easygoing and always entertaining. And on top very attractive.

I asked her if I can tell others about her: "why not, as long as they are gentlemen and entertaining".

More via PM.

Gregory.

BlackJack888
03-30-18, 10:46
Spring is (generally) good massage + HJ, with some special menu options tended by certain staff at certain locations.

Fudi is (generally) good massage +HJ. No special menu options possible.Hey RobSH,

Which Spring & Fudi location (s) are you referring to and is it an item that's on the menu? Is it inclusive, meaning no additional tip?

I went to a couple of Spring locations before, most recently the one on Jiaozhou Rd. , and didn't seem to offer it.

Previously the one on changning Road / loushanguan Road offered but no longer.

Never been to Fudi but seems like over the past year, there's quite a bit of locations as they have taken over other places and re-branded.

Peter109
04-01-18, 05:49
Today is a beautiful day and I feel like trying the first time a sauna in Shanghai. Does anyone have a recommendation where to go, or who to add for more details?

I'm quite new here!

RobSH
04-02-18, 18:17
Today is a beautiful day and I feel like trying the first time a sauna in Shanghai. Does anyone have a recommendation where to go, or who to add for more details?

I'm quite new here!Yes, quite new clearly. You should read back over the last 10 pages or so.

RobSH
04-02-18, 18:21
Hey RobSH,

Which Spring & Fudi location (s) are you referring to and is it an item that's on the menu? Is it inclusive, meaning no additional tip?

I went to a couple of Spring locations before, most recently the one on Jiaozhou Rd. , and didn't seem to offer it.

Previously the one on changning Road / loushanguan Road offered but no longer.

Never been to Fudi but seems like over the past year, there's quite a bit of locations as they have taken over other places and re-branded.All Spring and Fudi locations should offer HJ as standard (make sure to select the massage that is around 350 RMB). Any possible extras will depend on girl, and so far, I've only had luck at a select few Springs with a select few girls. Extras require tips of course. Make sure to check Dianping to see if the shop is really a Fudi or Spring as many have changed hands recently since the crackdown.

TheOtter
04-04-18, 11:01
Does anyone have the contact address for KD? I had to take a long break and delete all my contacts after my ex went through my phone

TheOtter
04-04-18, 16:34
Stopped by both Kangding and Dongguan, both are closed. If anyone has any good recommendations, pm me please.

TheOtter
04-05-18, 12:10
Stopped by a Spring Massage today after reserving with a girl I've seen a few times before: 24 yr old southern Chinese girl with a big ass, slim waist, and soft C cups.

Pretty slow day due to the holidays. She takes me to the furthest room and we go through the normal routine. Shower first, then back massage + oil massage and then pants off at around 50 minutes. Then she starts the slow tease where she massages around the groin and gently strokes your member until you're at full attention.

She doesn't do FS with people she doesn't know, but this time she agreed to 1 pop for 1500 (normally naked + BBBJ for 800).

She strips and we start off slow with some gentle fingering and deep kisses. Then a solid BBBJ for 5 minutes before I put a condom and we moved onto the main event. Went slow because she was worried I wouldn't fit, but after a few minutes she was taking the full length and was so wet that juices would splash out with every thrust. We fucked for a good 20 minutes in every position and she had to cover her mouth to keep the moans down (FS isn't actually allowed at Spring Massages). But I'm pretty sure if anyone walked by they would have heard.

I finish inside the condom and she takes it off and throws in a bag with the sauna shorts. Then we showered together and got dressed.

Massage + Oil: 328 + 40.

Extra Service: 1500.

Total Damage: 1868.

Face: 8/10.

Body: 8/10.

Sex: 9/10.

Massage: 7/10.

Would repeat: 10/10 This girl would go for around 1600-2000 in a sauna so overall decent value if you're willing to forsake the nuru / soapy you would get in a sauna. If you have a good reputation with the girl, she can pretty much skip the massage and just blow / fuck you for the entire session if you want.

RobSH
04-05-18, 15:59
Stopped by both Kangding and Dongguan, both are closed. If anyone has any good recommendations, pm me please.Another person who should look back over the last 10 pages. It's a bad time for you to come out of retirement.

Sinofaguo
04-06-18, 02:12
Stopped by a Spring Massage today after reserving with a girl I've seen a few times before: 24 yr old southern Chinese girl with a big ass, slim waist, and soft C cups.

Pretty slow day due to the holidays. She takes me to the furthest room and we go through the normal routine. Shower first, then back massage + oil massage and then pants off at around 50 minutes. Then she starts the slow tease where she massages around the groin and gently strokes your member until you're at full attention.

She doesn't do FS with people she doesn't know, but this time she agreed to 1 pop for 1500 (normally naked + BBBJ for 800).

She strips and we start off slow with some gentle fingering and deep kisses. Then a solid BBBJ for 5 minutes before I put a condom and we moved onto the main event. Went slow because she was worried I wouldn't fit, but after a few minutes she was taking the full length and was so wet that juices would splash out with every thrust. We fucked for a good 20 minutes in every position and she had to cover her mouth to keep the moans down (FS isn't actually allowed at Spring Massages). But I'm pretty sure if anyone walked by they would have heard.

I finish inside the condom and she takes it off and throws in a bag with the sauna shorts. Then we showered together and got dressed.

Massage + Oil: 328 + 40.

Extra Service: 1500.

Total Damage: 1868.

Face: 8/10.

Body: 8/10.

Sex: 9/10.

Massage: 7/10.

Would repeat: 10/10 This girl would go for around 1600-2000 in a sauna so overall decent value if you're willing to forsake the nuru / soapy you would get in a sauna. If you have a good reputation with the girl, she can pretty much skip the massage and just blow / fuck you for the entire session if you want.FYI the normal rate I've been quoted at Spring for Massage + Naked + BJ was 400 RMB to 500 RMB. Very far from your 328+800=1128 RMB.

Your rates are *2 to *3 the usual price from this chain

The Guy
04-06-18, 04:01
Stopped by both Kangding and Dongguan, both are closed. If anyone has any good recommendations, pm me please.I understand otters spend a large part of the winter under water.

Midwestern
04-06-18, 04:13
How did you arrive at 800 tip for BBBJ and 1500 tip for FS? Seems very high. But I guess I shouldn't be critical. I've not gotten far with Spring girls. They keep telling me that FS is not available. Also, I guess I pay close to what you paid when I get a ST hotel and order someone from an agency.


Stopped by a Spring Massage today after reserving with a girl I've seen a few times before: 24 yr old southern Chinese girl with a big ass, slim waist, and soft C cups.

Pretty slow day due to the holidays. She takes me to the furthest room and we go through the normal routine. Shower first, then back massage + oil massage and then pants off at around 50 minutes. Then she starts the slow tease where she massages around the groin and gently strokes your member until you're at full attention.

She doesn't do FS with people she doesn't know, but this time she agreed to 1 pop for 1500 (normally naked + BBBJ for 800).

She strips and we start off slow with some gentle fingering and deep kisses. Then a solid BBBJ for 5 minutes before I put a condom and we moved onto the main event. Went slow because she was worried I wouldn't fit, but after a few minutes she was taking the full length and was so wet that juices would splash out with every thrust. We fucked for a good 20 minutes in every position and she had to cover her mouth to keep the moans down (FS isn't actually allowed at Spring Massages). But I'm pretty sure if anyone walked by they would have heard.

I finish inside the condom and she takes it off and throws in a bag with the sauna shorts. Then we showered together and got dressed.

Massage + Oil: 328 + 40.

Extra Service: 1500.

Total Damage: 1868.

Face: 8/10.

Body: 8/10.

Sex: 9/10.

Massage: 7/10.

Would repeat: 10/10 This girl would go for around 1600-2000 in a sauna so overall decent value if you're willing to forsake the nuru / soapy you would get in a sauna. If you have a good reputation with the girl, she can pretty much skip the massage and just blow / fuck you for the entire session if you want..

TheOtter
04-06-18, 08:11
FYI the normal rate I've been quoted at Spring for Massage + Naked + BJ was 400 RMB to 500 RMB. Very far from your 328+800=1128 RMB.

Your rates are *2 to *3 the usual price from this chainThey used to have a 398 massage at some Spring Massages before the crackdown which included a naked oil body rub + shower together but I haven't found a place that offers it after the crackdown. But I haven't been to one where you could get a 298 massage and then get Naked + BJ for 200 RMB extra. Generally I get Naked + BJ for 400-500 extra. You must be a lot better at haggling prices than I am.

TheOtter
04-06-18, 08:34
How did you arrive at 800 tip for BBBJ and 1500 tip for FS? Seems very high. But I guess I shouldn't be critical. I've not gotten far with Spring girls. They keep telling me that FS is not available. Also, I guess I pay close to what you paid when I get a ST hotel and order someone from an agency..It is high! Normally you can get BBBJ for around 300-500 extra at most locations IMO, with the prices for extras tend to varying based on shop location and the girl. For example, the WanPing shop is generally cheaper than the MaDang shop because management isn't as strict about giving out extras. But at the same time, a lot of Spring girls are strictly HJ or covered BJ and only a few (of the attractive ones) are willing to bang.

I pay this girl extra for BBBJ because she's one of the few people I've met that doesn't smoke and has straight white teeth (the thought of nasty yellow teeth scraping against my dick kills the mood a little). As for the price for FS, I went off of how much I would have paid for this girl in a sauna, which would be 1600-2000. There does seem to be a rise in terms of the prices because of the dry weather. The same girl told me she just got 2,000 for a BBBJ without KB from a local just the other day.

Yuiop69
04-07-18, 01:02
If interested in an escort, I can recommend Beverly. She is already mentionned below. PM me for her number.

And I see there are a lot more fish in the sea htere. http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?view=ads&catid=9&subcatid=133&cityid=2&lang=en.

Surprisingly open.

Any views on how reliable these are generally? Any recommendations?

Thanks.

Midwestern
04-07-18, 02:25
If interested in an escort, I can recommend Beverly. She is already mentionned below. PM me for her number.

And I see there are a lot more fish in the sea htere. http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?view=ads&catid=9&subcatid=133&cityid=2&lang=en.

Surprisingly open.

Any views on how reliable these are generally? Any recommendations?

Thanks.If you are referring to Beverly Jones, then I concur she is great. She's probably the most well known escort in Shanghai. Very sweet. A true spinner physique. Best BBBJ ever. Will take CIM at the beginning ofsession and then she will relax with you for 20 minutes and then will boff for a 2nd pop. She will even book the ST hotel if you need it.

Midwestern
04-07-18, 02:39
Started using the new Nightlife Online. So far so good. The operator Coco is also patient and nice. Won't bother with more details, as the girls are the same SNG girls, so you guys already know them.

FredFerb
04-08-18, 07:11
I can't. But I can confirm the Portman is GF friendly (be discreet on your way in, walk to the elevators seperatley). I had no problem. Portman rate that I has was under 1000 rmb.

You also can't get any closer to the action at Judys and Manhattans!Swissotel: no problem at all. Ladies / girls can register as Guest at the reception and get to the room by themselves. They only need to know room number, name of guest.

Caution: In one case the girl even received a key card! Better ask the girl if they did.

Midwestern
04-09-18, 03:46
Swissotel: no problem at all. Ladies / girls can register as Guest at the reception and get to the room by themselves. They only need to know room number, name of guest.

Caution: In one case the girl even received a key card! Better ask the girl if they did.LOL, if this is your definition of GF friendly hotel then EVERY hotel is GF friendly.

FictionalSpace
04-09-18, 07:32
Started using the new Nightlife Online. So far so good. The operator Coco is also patient and nice. Won't bother with more details, as the girls are the same SNG girls, so you guys already know them.Do you have a link or contact info for this? Interested in checking it out. I tried to PM you, but your inbox is full—FYI.

FictionalSpace
04-09-18, 08:50
Do you have a link or contact info for this? Interested in checking it out. I tried to PM you, but your inbox is fullFYI.Nevermind. Found it. Sorry to clutter things up here.

Aurangzeb
04-09-18, 11:25
Bored girl, smoking hot, in a minidress sitting in the store. I get the feeling there's some p2 p action here. But what does the sign say?

Midwestern
04-09-18, 11:48
Near Crowne Plaza Shanghai. I previously reported this place as being legit. I was wrong. The massage menu is legit, thus my previous error. They have a separate spa menu with 2 items, one for 398 and one for 598. The latter is 4 hands massage. Anyway, private shower, pretty decent and sensuous massage, and good and slow he. They'll ask for a tip and was always happy with 200. Yeah, it's expensive. But it was all unrushed with long buildup. I never bothered to get any of the girls' number, as I haven't gotten a hot one yet.

RobSH
04-09-18, 21:30
Reporting on a new spa place inside Greenland Jiulong Hotel (6th floor). This clearly used to be a Sauna location, but now it is strictly he only. The environment is quite nice though as a result and they are running a 298 RMB special, although you may need to book via the manager for this discount (PM for contact). The girl was pretty average, but I noticed a few stunners when I was there (I prebooked based on photos, and picked a dud) Service is somewhere between the old Spring 298 and 398 RMB options. It's a reasonably good experience while the discount lasts. After that. Well, probably not.

RobSH
04-09-18, 21:34
Bored girl, smoking hot, in a minidress sitting in the store. I get the feeling there's some p2 p action here. But what does the sign say?Use the Google Translate App (needs VPN of course).

Contin Health Museum (Massage Oil Pressure.

Honestly, I've found the places with the minidress girls at the door to be rip offs. But YMMV. Please report on your experience.

Kimchi Warrior
04-10-18, 00:05
Sr member with long experience and record in Seoul making first foray to Shanghai this Thursday. I have that evening free for fun. Any reasonably nearby hunting grounds or other viable options? Recommendations appreciated and reciprocated. Particularly interested in PSE. TIA.

Yuiop69
04-10-18, 00:36
I see there are a lot more fish in the sea htere. http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?view=ads&catid=9&subcatid=133&cityid=2&lang=en.

Surprisingly open.

Any views on how reliable these are generally? Any recommendations?

Thanks.Any ideas for a short time place where I can a lady in? In the past, I've had two experiences where the Love Hotels refused me.

Midwestern
04-10-18, 01:48
Any ideas for a short time place where I can a lady in? In the past, I've had two experiences where the Love Hotels refused me.Try again. I also wasn't able to use the ST hotels during the crackdown. Also, I now book them for overnight on ctrip, but check out after the deed is done. Prices range from 250 to 500. I just meet the girl at the elevator or have them register. Finally, many ST hotels now require a resident permit if you are a foreigner.

Midwestern
04-11-18, 08:37
Try again. I also wasn't able to use the ST hotels during the crackdown. Also, I now book them for overnight on ctrip, but check out after the deed is done. Prices range from 250 to 500. I just meet the girl at the elevator or have them register. Finally, many ST hotels now require a resident permit if you are a foreigner.I was wrong. I got denied at a Hanting Hotel today.

TommyR
04-14-18, 17:56
Hey guys,

I'm very new here but interested in massage places or maybe spas in Changning District or something close that will do 2 pops.

Marty47
04-15-18, 17:14
Just got back from SH last month and have to go back again in a week. Since I been doing this for close to 20 years, I have my favorites that I hook up with, over 20 nowadays. So I thought, should find some new ones. Searched Badoo and found a cute Viet. Contacted her, got on We Chat and she sent these to entice me, thought I would share. Will report back in two weeks and let you know how it went.

SamCan
04-15-18, 18:02
Just got back from SH last month and have to go back again in a week. Since I been doing this for close to 20 years, I have my favorites that I hook up with, over 20 nowadays. So I thought, should find some new ones. Searched Badoo and found a cute Viet. Contacted her, got on We Chat and she sent these to entice me, thought I would share. Will report back in two weeks and let you know how it went.

Hey, I know that girl! LOL.

wow, 20 years, i have been doing this for almost 10 in SH. i feel like i missed the best years

TedSzar
04-15-18, 22:04
Hey guys,

Will be in Shanghai in a few weeks. Could anyone please let me know which MP offers Red rope service.

Appreciated.

Leviton6
04-15-18, 22:44
Hey, I know that girl! LOL.

wow, 20 years, i have been doing this for almost 10 in SH. i feel like i missed the best yearsThe more I read this forum more more I get excited about my upcoming trip back to Shanghai. I can't wait to report back on what I find.

Marty47
04-16-18, 14:57
Sam you going to be in sh week of April 23? Should have a drink.


Hey, I know that girl! LOL.

wow, 20 years, i have been doing this for almost 10 in SH. i feel like i missed the best years

Sinofaguo
04-16-18, 18:41
Sam you going to be in sh week of April 23? Should have a drink.There is a fantastic feature on the board called Private Messages.

Sinofaguo
04-16-18, 18:44
Honestly, I've found the places with the minidress girls at the door to be rip offs. But YMMV. Please report on your experience.I've found many in the past to be very nice places to visit. These days very few of these places keep the same dressing code as they prefer to keep a low profile.

Levitian
04-17-18, 07:36
Hey, I know that girl! LOL.

wow, 20 years, i have been doing this for almost 10 in SH. i feel like i missed the best years20 years ago. Well, no Viets back then, but Judy's and Manhattan already existed, with local catering.

Levitian
04-17-18, 07:59
Hey guys,

Will be in Shanghai in a few weeks. Could anyone please let me know which MP offers Red rope service.

Appreciated.No more red robe in Shanghai. I think it has been banned after some serious accidents happened.

Lev.

SexGuy2799
04-18-18, 08:03
Hey everyone,

I am an avid follower of ISG and am visiting Shanghai in 2 weeks. In the past I've used Rain twice, both times the service has been good when I called them to my hotel but the photos on the website are pretty deceptive, they're all at least 5 years older than the photos. Also rain is a bit expensive.

Would be great if you guys can help me with some good contacts for calling in the hotel. Am totally into the GFEs. And want some young college types.

Will be glad to reciprocate when in India. PM is active.

Cheers!

DoItUnderwater
04-18-18, 10:32
Hi All,

It's been a while since I was in Shanghai. I have been reading all the posts about windy weather in SH in the last year. Very disappointing. I am coming back in May and hoping that the Massage places on Shaanxi Lu and Changshou Lu are still in operation.

I stay near Gubei / Putuo and would appreciate any recent intel of places in that area; mostly happy massage places. I am not one to go with the girls from places like Manhattan.

I also recall reading a couple years ago about some dance halls where you could dance with various girls for about 20 RMB per dance and have some touchy, feely fun. Does anyone know if any of them are still in business?

I will post field reports as always.

Thanks all. Keep enjoying that sweet young flesh.

Doit.

Mac The Night
04-18-18, 14:55
I wish I had a better report, sincerely.

Ad on ChinaDaily Classifieds Post# A235828 with WeChat ID Passiontonight claimed repeatedly that she was the girl in the picture, wanted 1500 and for that I said yes.

She shows up miraculously 20 lbs heavier and with a serious face downgrade and tried to say she was the same girl.

I told her to pound pavement to hell with her taxi money.

Is there any service in SH with beautiful girls that isn't bait and switch BS?

I need a beautiful independent like a burger needs fries. Please help.

Member #2096
04-18-18, 21:46
Unfortunately I have to go back to China for another 3 weeks. I will work in Songjiang (West Shanghai). Is there any action there. Since my Chinese ability is 0 I can only communicate in English and I found that in Shanghai the English ability is very very limited. For the rest everybody tried to rip me off so I hope to find a place where you don't get ripped off. Some tips are welcome. I might however stay in a hotel not to far from Zapata's where is always action.

Steve 9696
04-19-18, 00:55
I wish I had a better report, sincerely.

Ad on ChinaDaily Classifieds Post# A235828 with WeChat ID Passiontonight claimed repeatedly that she was the girl in the picture, wanted 1500 and for that I said yes.

She shows up miraculously 20 lbs heavier and with a serious face downgrade and tried to say she was the same girl.

I told her to pound pavement to hell with her taxi money.

Is there any service in SH with beautiful girls that isn't bait and switch BS?

I need a beautiful independent like a burger needs fries. Please help.Go to Manhattan and do the Vietnamese take out. I really think all other SH options are lame these days.

R The Man
04-20-18, 14:32
Hey guys, I'm back in Shanghai again, and glad to see that Manhattan is open again. It was shuttered when I was here in December. As an ABC, I only speak English, so these places are perfect for me.

Pulled a nice girl, Me-Kay (or something like that), 27 years old, pretty standard Viet. Smooth skin, full plump tits, spoke enough English to get by. Got her for 1200ST with a promise of bonus for good service. Started with a shower together but no fun there. I said that kissing was important to me, and she did do some, but not so much in a GFE way. I like a sensual foreplay, but she was kinda rushing to get the cover on. I finally had to forcefully tell her no, that I wanted it slower, and she did oblige. Pretty good BBBJ, and she was nice and tight, had CFS in several positions, best was jockey. Finally came long and hard in mish, with her tongue up in mine. She earned the bonus, and I was pretty happy with the experience.

Heading back to Judy's / Manhattan on Sunday evening, if anyone wants to meet up. I'll even spring for the first beer Just PM me.

Are.

RobSH
04-20-18, 14:35
Unfortunately I have to go back to China for another 3 weeks. I will work in Songjiang (West Shanghai). Is there any action there. Since my Chinese ability is 0 I can only communicate in English and I found that in Shanghai the English ability is very very limited. For the rest everybody tried to rip me off so I hope to find a place where you don't get ripped off. Some tips are welcome. I might however stay in a hotel not to far from Zapata's where is always action.I've heard from the manager of Spring Massage in Songjiang that they offer the 398 RMB service. Could give that a try (read this forum for what that level of service is). You can find address by searching for "Chun" on Dianping app.

Leviton6
04-20-18, 14:52
Hey guys, I'm back in Shanghai again, and glad to see that Manhattan is open again. It was shuttered when I was here in December. As an ABC, I only speak English, so these places are perfect for me.

Pulled a nice girl, Me-Kay (or something like that), 27 years old, pretty standard Viet. Smooth skin, full plump tits, spoke enough English to get by. Got her for 1200ST with a promise of bonus for good service. Started with a shower together but no fun there. I said that kissing was important to me, and she did do some, but not so much in a GFE way. I like a sensual foreplay, but she was kinda rushing to get the cover on. I finally had to forcefully tell her no, that I wanted it slower, and she did oblige. Pretty good BBBJ, and she was nice and tight, had CFS in several positions, best was jockey. Finally came long and hard in mish, with her tongue up in mine. She earned the bonus, and I was pretty happy with the experience.

Heading back to Judy's / Manhattan on Sunday evening, if anyone wants to meet up. I'll even spring for the first beer Just PM me.

Are.Good hunting. I don't arrive till next week so save me a few girls LOL.

FredFerb
04-21-18, 08:17
Hey everyone,

I am an avid follower of ISG and am visiting Shanghai in 2 weeks. In the past I've used Rain twice, both times the service has been good when I called them to my hotel but the photos on the website are pretty deceptive, they're all at least 5 years older than the photos. Also rain is a bit expensive.

Would be great if you guys can help me with some good contacts for calling in the hotel. Am totally into the GFEs. And want some young college types.

Will be glad to reciprocate when in India. PM is active.

Cheers!Nighlife. Online. You will find many of previous SNG girls there. Not on the cheap side. But comparing to rain, more experienced, more professional service. Many. If not most. Of the services that the rain girls claim to provide are not correct. CIM. Nope, decent BBBJ. Nope, Rimming. Big NOPE, and so on.

In contrast: nighlife. Online. Yes to all the mentioned.

FredFerb
04-21-18, 08:26
LOL, if this is your definition of GF friendly hotel then EVERY hotel is GF friendly.LOL, well, that may be related to the difference between a "senior member" and a "regular member" . What is the definition of GFE friendly hotel?

SnrMan
04-21-18, 15:06
Friend of mine showed me a place on Fahuazhen, just west of intersection with Zhongdeqiao Lu. Only sign is "Spa". 15 minutes walk from Crown Plaza on Panyu or Longemont on Yanan Xi Lu. VIP Massage for 369, girl is nude and includes HJ. Been there 4 times; 3 time FS was offered for 300 tip. Girls better than average lookers -.

SamCan
04-21-18, 15:37
LOL, well, that may be related to the difference between a "senior member" and a "regular member" . What is the definition of GFE friendly hotel?Girl friendly hotels do not ask you to sign the girl in. I actually used to stay at the Sheraton HongQiao. I would walk across the street to the massage parlor pick up my girl after work at midnite. Walk her back to my room for the night and the doorman would hit the elevator button for us. I was 48, she was 22. We surely didn't belong together. No worries at all. -girl friendly.

At the hilton, the doorman would stand in front of you and direct you to the counter to sign in. One time the girl was on her second round going to the hilton that evening. Hilton, unknown to me signed her in earlier with someone else. The Hilton informed me that if I signed her in again they were obligated to call the police as no woman should be signing into two different rooms in the same night. - not girl friendly.

At least they were customer friendly and told me

Midwestern
04-21-18, 16:41
Nighlife. Online. You will find many of previous SNG girls there. Not on the cheap side. But comparing to rain, more experienced, more professional service. Many. If not most. Of the services that the rain girls claim to provide are not correct. CIM. Nope, decent BBBJ. Nope, Rimming. Big NOPE, and so on.

In contrast: nighlife. Online. Yes to all the mentioned.I find Rain and SNG / NLO to be almost identical (for example, price and service are quite similar) with one exception. Rain is a mega psycho —— (rhymes with a unt). At one point, I had been with almost every Rain girl. I thought the service was pretty good. But there has been a lot of turnover. Some of the cutest girls I’ve ever boffed were Rain girls that have since left. The ones that remain, Jenny, Abbey, and Kitty, are all good. I had a major crush on Abbey because there was a dark side to her. Jenny is bubbly, but kind of a rusher. I once did a 3 some with Jenny and Abbey, but it was a bit rushed. Kitty is not that attractive, but she was GFE and a great lay, especially jockey. But I now stay away from Rain because she scares me for a couple of reasons, and maybe her current stable and service sux, as you say. Regarding, SNG / NLO, who do you recommend on there? I've been with most of them as well, and I'm not sure I'd rave about any. Some are nice and some are hot, but none are both. Let us know what you've found and enjoyed on NLO. I’m espe curious to know if we have similar tastes.

Mac The Night
04-21-18, 17:36
Went to Manhattan about 10 pm Saturday night, expected to be a dude fest but was pleasantly surprised to see a wide selection and not too many guys. Bought my obligatory drink, 50 RMB Heineken.

Selection really great. A true buyers market.

Narrowed in on a super cute spinner, Ly, 24 yrs old, goes back to Vietnam tomorrow.

Very bubbly, chatty, flirty, smelled good. Etc. We quickly agreed to 1500 for short time.

Taxi drivers scamming for 200/180/150 RMB but we waited for a legit metered taxi for a 50 RMB ride.

Back to hotel in Minhang. Total GFE. Her body was legendary. She danced for me. So nice. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, some momentary BB cowgirl sex to tease me into a cover. Which by the way slipped off during final stage doggie and oops, busted a tremendous nut inside the honey pot. She was totally cool about it.

For me Manhattan has been hit or miss, but tonight was a bullseye.

Steve 9696
04-21-18, 18:48
Girl friendly hotels do not ask you to sign the girl in. I actually used to stay at the Sheraton HongQiao. I would walk across the street to the massage parlor pick up my girl after work at midnite. Walk her back to my room for the night and the doorman would hit the elevator button for us. I was 48, she was 22. We surely didn't belong together. No worries at all. -girl friendly.

At the hilton, the doorman would stand in front of you and direct you to the counter to sign in. One time the girl was on her second round going to the hilton that evening. Hilton, unknown to me signed her in earlier with someone else. The Hilton informed me that if I signed her in again they were obligated to call the police as no woman should be signing into two different rooms in the same night. - not girl friendly.

At least they were customer friendly and told meI had good experience two years straight at Sheraton HongKou. A few of us returned from Manhattan each with a girl around mid night. Just walked over to the elevators and went on up. No questions asked. Same thing two years in a row. So I would say girl friendly.

R The Man
04-22-18, 06:45
I had good experience two years straight at Sheraton HongKou. A few of us returned from Manhattan each with a girl around mid night. Just walked over to the elevators and went on up. No questions asked. Same thing two years in a row. So I would say girl friendly.I usually stay at the Hotel Equatorial, next to the old Hilton (now a Kun Lun hotel). Nice hotel, a little cheaper than the Hilton, close to the Judy's / Manhattan action and girl friendly. Just go straight in to elevators.

Blacklisted
04-22-18, 07:24
Hi All,

It's been a while since I was in Shanghai. I have been reading all the posts about windy weather in SH in the last year. Very disappointing. I am coming back in May and hoping that the Massage places on Shaanxi Lu and Changshou Lu are still in operation.

I stay near Gubei / Putuo and would appreciate any recent intel of places in that area; mostly happy massage places. I am not one to go with the girls from places like Manhattan.

I also recall reading a couple years ago about some dance halls where you could dance with various girls for about 20 RMB per dance and have some touchy, feely fun. Does anyone know if any of them are still in business?

I will post field reports as always.

Thanks all. Keep enjoying that sweet young flesh.

Doit.All closed I'm afraid. Can be accessed in smaller cities such as Suzhou or Chengdu but not Shanghai. Good luck!

R The Man
04-22-18, 10:27
Had a free afternoon so thought I'd try a delivery service. Read the recent posts about Nightlife. Online (the resurrected SNG) so I WeChat'd Coco. Booking was a breeze and TingTing was in my room 45 min later. She was just what I needed. A GND petite friendly girl with perky B's and a tight little slim body. Photos and prices on the site are accurate, and Coco considerately sent a current photo so I'd know her in the lobby (my hotel has a key card). And in the room she was a tiger, with some nice kissing, sexy massage, and lots of positions. Could have done without the fake moaning, but it was a great experience. I would certainly repeat and use Coco again.

Heading out later tonite to hang with a fellow ISGer at Judy's / Manhattan. Looking forward to another nice catch.

R.

R The Man
04-23-18, 02:15
Had a great time hanging out with Blacklisted. Always fun to compare stories with a fellow ISGer. We hit both Judy's and Manhattan, since he hadn't been there for a while, and there were lots of yummy choices at both. I thought quality was bit better at Manhattan, but since I took a girl from there earlier in the week, thought I would fish at Judy's. First girl I chatted up was sexy and sweet, but hilariously asked for 2 K for ST, and would only go down to 1800, so I bailed and kept looking.

By 11:30 pm I found and took out Anna, who attracted me with her tight, sexy red dress. She was slightly older at early 30's than my usual preference (I like them young, petite, natural tits), but all Asians look younger to me, so that was fine. She had a really nice body, I usually don't like enhanced tits but hers were soft and really well done. But her attitude was all GFE. Holding hands, kissing in taxi, really attentive and really wanted to be sure that I was happy. And I was. Excellent BBBJ just the way I like, starting in the shower and before and after sex. She was nice and tight, but I finished with CIM. Afterwards she gave me a firm massage. She wanted to stay LT, but I'm not an overnight guy, but I would definitely recommend her. Gave her a bonus for good service for 1600 total.

Heading out now, but looking forward to my next trip back to Shanghai (but before that, will be in Bogota and Sao Paulo for hobbying fun).

Enjoy, boys!

Dex Xie
04-23-18, 08:06
When you guys mention ST, is that based on time or number of pops?

Midwestern
04-23-18, 12:21
Friend of mine showed me a place on Fahuazhen, just west of intersection with Zhongdeqiao Lu. Only sign is "Spa". 15 minutes walk from Crown Plaza on Panyu or Longemont on Yanan Xi Lu. VIP Massage for 369, girl is nude and includes HJ. Been there 4 times; 3 time FS was offered for 300 tip. Girls better than average lookers -.I tried to look for this place today but couldn't find it. You sure It's on Fahuazhen, west of Zhongdeqiao? The only MP there is a place calked Neil Massage and they only had a standard 238 massage and no English menu.

Mac The Night
04-24-18, 17:31
Truly tiny. Petite isn't a strong enough word. Her English isn't that good, her face is a 5, and could use some dental work, but good attitude and service with a hot little body. Nice girl.

Action started in the shower, pretty nice. All she had to do was lean over a little LOL.

BBBJ and covered fun followed. Hitting that in doggy was surreal. And tight! Nice pampering and massage in between pops.

Overall good and unrushed experience, but I will not repeat. I'the recommend a trip to Manhattan instead for a better value.

Cheers!

Midwestern
04-25-18, 02:20
Several months ago, I started asking MP girls for their wechats. Then later that day, I texted them, "can we have sex?" Obviously almost everyone said no, and for many different reasons. Eventually, a girl said okay, but after I kept telling her for many weeks how much I liked her and how beautiful she was, etc. She asked for 3000, LOL, but I talked her down and eventually she said okay to 2000, so I decided it might be worth it (she has a humongous rack). So on her day off she came to my hotel. At first she was nervous and I had to coax her clothes off and obviously she didn't know the usual drill (shower together, BJ, multiple positions, etc). So, we showered separately and she was pretty much a starfish in bed, but she obviously doesn't have sex everyday and so she actually seemed to enjoy it. She stayed for a couple of hours and I eventually had to kick her out. I then texted her later that from now on I will give her 1500. She said okay. I guess once a bridge is crossed then the price can go down. And, after all, she now realizes that I'm a normal decent guy. We met again for repeat fun. And now she texts me almost every day to chat and every night to say goodnight. She wants to meet me regularly on her days off. She asked me if she was my GF and I said sure. Eventually I will tell her I can only pay 1000. We'll see what she says. Then, recently, another MP girl who I've been texting for several months also finally relented and said she'd meet me at my hotel. Again, she didn't know what do when we met, and so we cuddled and I had to coax her clothes off and then she got really horny and the fun began. She was disappointed after I popped. Afterwards, she stayed in the room for 3 hours!, and I finally had to kick her out. She begged to stay longer, before her shift began 4 hours later, and I basically did a Charlie Sheen and paid her 2000 to leave. She said she didn't want money and wanted me to take her to dinners and movies and shopping and buy her gifts and be nice to her. But I paid her anyway as I wanted to establish a precedent so that she understood what this really was. Eventually I'll pay her less as we keep meeting. Anyway, just wanted to share my experience on trying to get MP girls for outcall fun. Persistence can pay off. And keep in mind that these girls have days off and probably don't have much to do on their off days and would be happy to make some extra money. I admit the conversion rate is very low, as I probably propositioned over a dozen MP girls (most strung me along for repeat visits to the MP, oh well, lesson learned). As an aside, I felt kinda safe, since I know where these girls work and so I assume their workplace has their ID on file. Would appreciate any constructive comments. Insults also welcome. I like learning from my ISG friends.

PrinceMV2
04-25-18, 04:06
Last time I picked a girl from Manhattan was at least two years back or may be more when I got that super chick in 500 rmb st. I repeated her many times and shared her number with many here. Now she is in Viet settled with her BF but still in touch online like friends. Never had the guts to pick these average looking girls nowadays to pay 1500/2000/3000 rmbs when I can pick best of Uzbek, Russian beauties in just about 350 rmb st in my own country after reaching back in few days. On my personal opinion these girls getting that much amount is no sense. Market totally spoiled by Chinese locals in Manhattan.


Had a great time hanging out with Blacklisted. Always fun to compare stories with a fellow ISGer. We hit both Judy's and Manhattan, since he hadn't been there for a while, and there were lots of yummy choices at both. I thought quality was bit better at Manhattan, but since I took a girl from there earlier in the week, thought I would fish at Judy's. First girl I chatted up was sexy and sweet, but hilariously asked for 2 K for ST, and would only go down to 1800, so I bailed and kept looking.

By 11:30 pm I found and took out Anna, who attracted me with her tight, sexy red dress. She was slightly older at early 30's than my usual preference (I like them young, petite, natural tits), but all Asians look younger to me, so that was fine. She had a really nice body, I usually don't like enhanced tits but hers were soft and really well done. But her attitude was all GFE. Holding hands, kissing in taxi, really attentive and really wanted to be sure that I was happy. And I was. Excellent BBBJ just the way I like, starting in the shower and before and after sex. She was nice and tight, but I finished with CIM. Afterwards she gave me a firm massage. She wanted to stay LT, but I'm not an overnight guy, but I would definitely recommend her. Gave her a bonus for good service for 1600 total.

Aurangzeb
04-25-18, 08:34
I've done the Spring circuit (think I've tried like 10 of them) and they're good for a massage (of mixed quality, usually decent, occasionally mediocre or outstanding) followed by a dynamite hand-job. At most, you can negotiate with the girls for more, depending on your paying capacity. It's comfortable and consistent, but with my income I can't afford to hit them more than once a fortnight, and I've got a larger appetite than that.

So I've been prowling around for an inexpensive MP where extras were on offer, that I could frequent more often.

After getting massaged (and spending a ludicrous amount of money) at a bunch of places, I've finally found something.

It's a non-fancy foot massage place that seems to cater primarily to Chinese clientele. I was passing by, wondering what this place was (the sign wasn't in English), when I noticed a picture of feet in a tub of water with rose petals. Obviously some kind of spa. Went in and asked for a massage. By gesturing, we communicated, and I was led into a small room and made to sit on a sofa. A girl (nothing special, late 20's to mid 30's, but a beautiful smile and smelled delightfully fresh) came in with a tub of hot water, put it down and had me put my feet in. She then took off her jacket, draped it on a hanger and then placed the hanger on a hook above the window on the door, effectively sealing the room from prying eyes. This was my first hint of something to come, because in my 'research' I've seen this trend: At almost all MPs the doors have windows. The windows are usually blocked by hanging clothing on hangers, over the window. When LE is cracking down, and the MP is in legit mode, the hangars are bare. When they're open to extras, the windows are blocked. I felt hopeful.

So she did the foot massage (which was good!) and it seemed like time was up, without any action. I was like wtf? So I used an app and asked if any other massages were available. She used her app and said a body massage was on offer. I told her I wanted this, expecting her to have me undress (thus far I was fully clothed with my pants pulled up so my feet could soak / be massaged), but she didn't. She fiddled with the sofa a little and it turned into a massage bed. The massage was sans lubricant, and through my clothes, but relaxing. Her touch was familiar but not blatantly sexual. Her hands often went high up my thigh, and unlike the massages I've had at high-end legit places, where they studiously avoid anything that may turn you on, the sides of her hands occasionally brushed against my cock and I started to get turned on. I waited to see if she'd notice, or do more, but she didn't. So after it happened a couple of times, I laughed, said 'sorry', and reached down to adjust myself, making it known that I was hard. She looked at my crotch, look at me and laughed. But she still didn't initiate anything, and kept doing as she had been. The fact was now out in the open though, and every time her hand brushed me, I'd sigh or laugh or groan playfully and she'd laugh too.

At one point, I was laying on my back while she sat next to me, massaging my shoulder. I (instinctively, without thinking) moved my hand so she had space, and rested it on her thigh. She didn't object. I started caressing her thigh. She didn't object. I moved my hand up and down her torso. She didn't object. Emboldened, I then moved my hand under her armpit and cupped a boob. She smiled. And didn't object.

So I put my hand on hers and moved it over my cock. She smiled at me, closed her eyes and began to caress my cock, over my jeans. But she wouldn't do anything more. We started using translation apps again to communicate. She just wouldn't do more. To cut a long story short, in this establishment, the owner disallows any sexual gratification. He seems to turn a somewhat blind eye to sexual arousal, but no gratification. I was aroused and frustrated, but excited that I'd discovered something. Went home and jerked off over the next few days with the image of her face, eyes closed, while she explored the contours of my cock.

I went back there today. Same routine: foot massage, body massage, and feeling each other up. I put my hands inside her bra, played with her nipples. Pulled her shirt down and kissed them, teased them with my tongue, while she caressed my dick. It was incredibly sensuous. It's hard to explain. I am a grown man, looking for sexual release, and here I was being felt up by this girl, like a teenager, and I was loving it. I wore track pants today, and boxers instead of briefs, so both her and I were feeling more. After a while, I raised the elastic of my tracks, and she slipped her hand in and wrapped it around my cock. What followed was the most exquisite and tantalizing slow hand-job I've ever had. I blew my load while sucking her tits and felt (deliciously) like I was 16 again.

CNY60 for a (surprisingly good) foot massage, add CNY60 for a (not brilliant, but very relaxing) body massage (no oil). Round it all off to CNY200 and I've found a place I can hit whenever the mood sets in. I'm confident I'll get her to blow me, eventually. Will keep you guys posted.

Midwestern
04-25-18, 09:49
CNY60 for a (surprisingly good) foot massage, add CNY60 for a (not brilliant, but very relaxing) body massage (no oil). Round it all off to CNY200 and I've found a place I can hit whenever the mood sets in. I'm confident I'll get her to blow me, eventually. Will keep you guys posted.Based on your budget and based on what you want, why don't you go to 76 Changshou?

MArcade
04-25-18, 14:35
Several months ago, I started asking MP girls for their wechats. Then later that day, I texted them, "can we have sex?" Obviously almost everyone said no, and for many different reasons. Eventually, a girl said okay, but after I kept telling her for many weeks how much I liked her and how beautiful she was, etc. She asked for 3000, LOL, but I talked her down and eventually she said okay to 2000, so I decided it might be worth it (she has a humongous rack). So on her day off she came to my hotel. At first she was nervous and I had to coax her clothes off and obviously she didn't know the usual drill (shower together, BJ, multiple positions, etc). So, we showered separately and she was pretty much a starfish in bed, but she obviously doesn't have sex everyday and so she actually seemed to enjoy it. She stayed for a couple of hours and I eventually had to kick her out. I then texted her later that from now on I will give her 1500. She said okay. I guess once a bridge is crossed then the price can go down. And, after all, she now realizes that I'm a normal decent guy. We met again for repeat fun. And now she texts me almost every day to chat and every night to say goodnight. She wants to meet me regularly on her days off. She asked me if she was my GF and I said sure. Eventually I will tell her I can only pay 1000. We'll see what she says. Then, recently, another MP girl who I've been texting for several months also finally relented and said she'd meet me at my hotel. Again, she didn't know what do when we met, and so we cuddled and I had to coax her clothes off and then she got really horny and the fun began. She was disappointed after I popped. Afterwards, she stayed in the room for 3 hours!, and I finally had to kick her out. She begged to stay longer, before her shift began 4 hours later, and I basically did a Charlie Sheen and paid her 2000 to leave. .Hmmm. A normal decent guy eh. Sounds to me a bit like you're slightly taking advantage of the girls (even if they work in a MP), which isn't exactly what a decent guy would do.

Sinofaguo
04-25-18, 15:55
She asked me if she was my GF and I said sure.

But I paid her anyway as I wanted to establish a precedent so that she understood what this really was.I believe you're sending very contradicting signals. Even if you're paying her, telling a girl she is your girl friend is sending very strong signals.

You will disappoint this girl at some point. It would have been much more simple to tell her you are friends with mutual benefits rather than positionning her as your girl friend.
While this girl is going to suffer some, you have to understand she may also try to make you suffer by making problems for you.

Just my 2 cents anyway since you're asking.

ShanghaiLander
04-26-18, 08:33
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PlaceKicker
04-26-18, 14:51
Wandered about Putuo / Jingan area and found a number of BBS / MPs with their (glass) doors completely smashed. At least one place was definitely closed when it happened, as the door handles were still linked together with the lock and shards of glass all about the entrance. Not entirely sure what's going on, as some other places were still open for business and yet others were curtained up without incident.

Some places that I've never seen closed before seem to be on actual lockdown now, even the back doors are no-go. Saw one case of an external sign, protruding from the wall of the building, completely removed. It's the kind of job that would need power tools, with a rotary blade to cut through steel rods and such. Extreme.

Tyb60
04-27-18, 06:31
Had a free afternoon so thought I'd try a delivery service. Read the recent posts about Nightlife. Online (the resurrected SNG) so I WeChat'd Coco. Booking was a breeze and TingTing was in my room 45 min later. She was just what I needed. A GND petite friendly girl with perky B's and a tight little slim body. Photos and prices on the site are accurate, and Coco considerately sent a current photo so I'd know her in the lobby (my hotel has a key card). And in the room she was a tiger, with some nice kissing, sexy massage, and lots of positions. Could have done without the fake moaning, but it was a great experience. I would certainly repeat and use Coco again.

Heading out later tonite to hang with a fellow ISGer at Judy's / Manhattan. Looking forward to another nice catch.

R.Good to hear she treated you well, she is a naught petite lady.

Her LS still bare?

TedSzar
04-27-18, 08:49
Does anyone know if "999" Jiu Yuan Club still exists? If not, could anyone recommend some saunas similar to it?

Beijing4987
04-27-18, 08:55
The shop at the corner of Shaanxi Road and Changping Road has be destroyed. A worker there sent me videos. Inside the rooms and at the entrance all the glass hit with hammers. One on Xikang Road at Jiaozhou Road was semi legit. Boss closed it today. Must have been warned. Closed for one month in March-April.

Aurangzeb
04-27-18, 16:51
Based on your budget and based on what you want, why don't you go to 76 Changshou?I intend to. But I live west of the airport, way out at the edge of town. Looking for somewhere I can get to in 5 - 10 minutes.

ThomKatt
04-27-18, 17:01
What's in 76 changshou?

I keep reading that Spring Massage is a good place to get a minimum of massage with he. Is this true? It looks like a chain, and if they offered this service, wouldn't they have been shutdown though?

Anyone recommend the ones in the Xuhui area? There's 2 around me.

TIA.

PlaceKicker
04-27-18, 23:46
What's in 76 changshou?

I keep reading that Spring Massage is a good place to get a minimum of massage with he. Is this true? It looks like a chain, and if they offered this service, wouldn't they have been shutdown though?

Anyone recommend the ones in the Xuhui area? There's 2 around me.

TIA.Spring runs two completely separate divisions, with the other half being completely legit replete with the standard uniformed workers and even some male employees. Unlike some other places their menu isn't just a prop, so if you get cold feet asking about special service you can always go veg. During blackout seasons, presuming they haven't been shut down, this is the only thing on tap.

76 is more of a local flat-rate KB MP, oil isn't involved so massage. If any. Depends on how the person decides to use time.

After about a half year of closure / blackout mode, just noticed some Changning places with doors wide open, fully lit, neon sizes ablaze. Administration change finally settled?

ThomKatt
04-28-18, 03:25
Spring runs two completely separate divisions, with the other half being completely legit replete with the standard uniformed workers and even some male employees. Unlike some other places their menu isn't just a prop, so if you get cold feet asking about special service you can always go veg. During blackout seasons, presuming they haven't been shut down, this is the only thing on tap.

76 is more of a local flat-rate KB MP, oil isn't involved so massage. If any. Depends on how the person decides to use time.

After about a half year of closure / blackout mode, just noticed some Changning places with doors wide open, fully lit, neon sizes ablaze. Administration change finally settled?Thanks for the info. Is there somewhere I can find which gives extras? I used the dianping app, and they all look legit.

Ira Johnson
04-28-18, 05:41
Have not contributed here in a while, and had an adventure this morning so I felt led to share it here and get back on track with my responsibilities to the brotherhood.

As my work grows and gets busier, I do not have the time to chase 'freebies' like I used to, and dating is a pain in the ass. I have satisfied myself with a couple of MP milfs I have known for ten years, who will come over at the drop of a hat for 800ST. Having known me this long, it is extremely nice being with them. We know each other well. BUt you know, sometimes the craving for strange can overcome us.

The other day I was at an event, and the 'look around' feature pinged and a cutie named Jojo was inviting me to her massage parlor. She said no sex, but to come and lets talk about it. (1565 Huashan Road Building 4, not far from Jiaotong Universtity Metro, photos attached) She was 26, tiny, I'd say 155, with a rock hard body, great be cups, and she had had a baby she admitted. I chose the 288 RMB 60 minute massage. The massage was the best I have had in a while, so I thought it must be veggie. However, when I grabbed her ass, she moved her pussy into my hand. In my broken mandarin, I asked about other services. Sex was definitely off the menu, but she agreed to remove clothes and enjoy BBBJ and 69 with me for a 500 RMB tip, but no sex in the store, she emphasized. The BBBJ and 69 and her moaning were as satisfying as the massage. After I left she pestered me to meet up again, especially at my house.

SO at the next opportunity when my wife was away, I invited her over for 1000 kuai short time. She was even sexier and funnier. And there was no massage, right to it. However this time she insisted on a CBJ and the kissing was just going through the motions. Thanks to the massive supply of Kamagra I brought from Thailand, I was eager anyway, and flipped her onto her back and began to bound. She was remarkably tight and seemed to enjoy it at first then complained of pain. I let her go with the promised fee, unsatisfied. She pesters me every day now and I ignore her. But for a great massage with a BBBJ ending, go see her. Ask for Jojo.

I am always browsing on TanTan, Tinder and Badoo. And I never expect the rate of return to mean much. For every ten 'matches' maybe 4 conversations will go anywhere, and maybe one will meet, and often that one is not aligned with what I am looking for. The rare few that make it into a WeChat conversation often have different expectations (or maybe I have just not yet learned how to speak to them yet).

So when Wendy, 23, about 162 from Guizhou, contacted me on Badoo I did not think anything much about it. She just arrived in Shanghai 2 months ago, living out in the boonies with her best friend and commuting in to work. However, her written English is great (not spoken well though) and at first I thought this is just another girl seeking Hongbao. She wanted to meet the night we chatted, with her GF too, as it was allegedly Wendy's birthday and they are 'poor girls. ' I assumed these were just young Chinese girls looking for a foreign meal ticket. BI ignored that and she never brought it up again, but continued to chat and send me photos.

Early this morning she sent me a message asking to meet today. I have time as it is a holiday weekend, but my wife is at home. I asked what she wanted to do and she replied "Shave you."

Okay.

My mind went in a different direction. "Some Tinder girl is going to have a knife at my open throat? No way!" Then she replied 'I am shaved too' - ohhhhh. I said no, obviously, as that would have required REAL creativity to explain to my wife why I am suddenly bald down there.

She said she wanted to make me happy, and how much would I tip her. I said 1000 and she agreed (maybe I could have gone less but seems standard). Since it is May holiday, my offices are closed up. I went in to work and she met me here at 10 am. Some of my colleagues are so hardcore that they work well into the night and sleep on bedrolls here. So I prepared one for my office.

I always had a fantasy of nailing a hot assistant in my office. This was a great morning. She refused to give any kind of BJ but loved DATY. Her kisses were sweet and real but after DATY she refused to let me kiss her. Understandable. Desk, floor, sofa, armchair, standing. She raised a bit of a ruckus and I was glad the floor was empty. After popping in the jimmy hat, we rested and made out a little, then she gave me a massage and spoke sweetly to me, kissing my cheek every few words. Eventually she left, but has been messaging me since that she has a crush on me and agreed to recruit her friend for my friend.

I am happy to share Jojo's massage parlor deets here and in the photos, but I will keep Wendy to myself for a bit.

Be safe out there!

Uncle Ira.

Sinofaguo
04-28-18, 08:04
The shop at the corner of Shaanxi Road and Changping Road has be destroyed. A worker there sent me videos. Inside the rooms and at the entrance all the glass hit with hammers. One on Xikang Road at Jiaozhou Road was semi legit. Boss closed it today. Must have been warned. Closed for one month in March-April.Thats interesting because I had reported here a MP on Beijing road / shaanxi road that had been left opened during the big crack down for the Beijing summit last year. They were still running 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Passing by this week, I noticed that the signs were gone and the lights were off. Not sure if they went low profile or permanantly closed as I rarely went there.

Sinofaguo
04-28-18, 08:17
Wandered about Putuo / Jingan area and found a number of BBS / MPs with their (glass) doors completely smashed. At least one place was definitely closed when it happened, as the door handles were still linked together with the lock and shards of glass all about the entrance. Several MPs I go to in another district have had to remove their chinese name signs and only leave the english word massage, put black film on the windows to acts as if they were closed, and either use back doors or use the front one but lock the door each time someone goes in.

Some of them will soon have to shut down anyway because of the local administration is enforcing construction laws saying the door shouldn't be as big, there shouldn't be a door from to the outside to the street, but only inside the compound, etc. Based on their negociation they might reopen with a much more discreet appearance. Or close for good.

FantasticMax
04-28-18, 14:46
I'll be in Shanhai for a weekend trip, but it looks like a lot of my old saunas have ghosted. I tried going to the old SNG site, but it seems gone too. Must be a strong wind sweeping through Shanghai. I'm getting a feeling through some of the comments on here that it changed to NLO, but despite my best efforts I can't manage to find the new site. Could someone PM me the site, or a similar one that will point me to some active saunas, or even just tell me some of the ones you currently like.

Thanks!

Tyb60
04-28-18, 17:35
I'll be in Shanhai for a weekend trip, but it looks like a lot of my old saunas have ghosted. I tried going to the old SNG site, but it seems gone too. Must be a strong wind sweeping through Shanghai. I'm getting a feeling through some of the comments on here that it changed to NLO, but despite my best efforts I can't manage to find the new site. Could someone PM me the site, or a similar one that will point me to some active saunas, or even just tell me some of the ones you currently like.

Thanks!Check the classified, they have a post!

Trawlerman
05-01-18, 04:20
On a recent visit to Shanghai, a couple of weeks ago, I tried one of the Spring massage places with the 399 RMB option. I haven't been to Shanghai since before the crackdown last year, and I in the past I've been more interested in the saunas. Really, I wasn't expecting much, and didn't even ask about the service beforehand. The initial massage was not at all bad, so I was slightly surprised and happy when the girl stripped off before the flip. She gave a very erotic massage and HJ, with lots of tender touching, nipple kissing etc. And finished me rubbing my cock between her ass cheeks as she rode on top. Really very good, so much so that I didn't even ask for other services. It's the branch nearest and to the east of Hongqiao airport (I just searched on baidu maps).

TM.

SpiceCat
05-01-18, 07:55
I'll be in Shanhai for a weekend trip, but it looks like a lot of my old saunas have ghosted. I tried going to the old SNG site, but it seems gone too. Must be a strong wind sweeping through Shanghai. I'm getting a feeling through some of the comments on here that it changed to NLO, but despite my best efforts I can't manage to find the new site. Could someone PM me the site, or a similar one that will point me to some active saunas, or even just tell me some of the ones you currently like.

Thanks!Most of the Saunas are indeed closed! The agents can be contacted through WeChat and they will send you a meeting point which will be close to a hotel in which they've either set up for a short time or taken up a floor to conduct their business. There's obviously no loud music and Fish bowl. You pick them from the room in which they're waiting ( Resting and smoking. Once paid for they'll lead you to another room, hopefully one that hasn't already been used, but you can't be sure. They'll replace the soapy with a vertical imitation in the shower before leading you to the bed. The services are little more expensive and the choice isn't always that great.

Midwestern
05-01-18, 14:11
On a recent visit to Shanghai, a couple of weeks ago, I tried one of the Spring massage places with the 399 RMB option. I haven't been to Shanghai since before the crackdown last year, and I in the past I've been more interested in the saunas. Really, I wasn't expecting much, and didn't even ask about the service beforehand. The initial massage was not at all bad, so I was slightly surprised and happy when the girl stripped off before the flip. She gave a very erotic massage and HJ, with lots of tender touching, nipple kissing etc. And finished me rubbing my cock between her ass cheeks as she rode on top. Really very good, so much so that I didn't even ask for other services. It's the branch nearest and to the east of Hongqiao airport (I just searched on baidu maps).

TM.Is it the one near Shuicheng Lu subway station? Speaking of Spring MPs, I have been to a few, and I always choose the most expensive massage (at least 336 rmb), and they always start giving me a HJ either before the flip of after, but they also always ask for a tip before I pop. Usually they are happy with 200, but to get their clothes off I had to go up to 300 or even 400. Are you guys getting HJs without having to tip? I can't speak Chinese, in case this factors into the equation.

Sinofaguo
05-01-18, 15:48
Is it the one near Shuicheng Lu subway station? Speaking of Spring MPs, I have been to a few, and I always choose the most expensive massage (at least 336 rmb), and they always start giving me a HJ either before the flip of after, but they also always ask for a tip before I pop. Usually they are happy with 200, but to get their clothes off I had to go up to 300 or even 400. Are you guys getting HJs without having to tip? I can't speak Chinese, in case this factors into the equation.Yes the old 268 RMB & current 336 RMB fee is for HJ included.

You only have to tip if you wan't additional service (ie her taking upper or lower cloth off for easier roaming or more than a HJ).

Aurangzeb
05-01-18, 16:52
On a recent visit to Shanghai, a couple of weeks ago, I tried one of the Spring massage places with the 399 RMB option. I haven't been to Shanghai since before the crackdown last year, and I in the past I've been more interested in the saunas. Really, I wasn't expecting much, and didn't even ask about the service beforehand. The initial massage was not at all bad, so I was slightly surprised and happy when the girl stripped off before the flip. She gave a very erotic massage and HJ, with lots of tender touching, nipple kissing etc. And finished me rubbing my cock between her ass cheeks as she rode on top. Really very good, so much so that I didn't even ask for other services. It's the branch nearest and to the east of Hongqiao airport (I just searched on baidu maps).

TM.That location shows up on my apps / maps all the time but I've never been able to find it. Can you help me with the location?

SnrMan
05-02-18, 03:13
I tried to look for this place today but couldn't find it. You sure It's on Fahuazhen, west of Zhongdeqiao? The only MP there is a place calked Neil Massage and they only had a standard 238 massage and no English menu.It's maybe 50 yards before you get to Neil Massage. I was there 4 days ago, so still open. The spa sign was low, near the door. A bit discrete. There's a desk to the side when you walk in, usually a guy behind the desk.

PartyFriend
05-02-18, 06:16
I am tempted to try Spring on Shuicheng lu. As everywhere, the service largely depends on the provider. Any girl's "number" (or name) anyone could recommend at that place?

Thanks.

Midwestern
05-02-18, 07:08
The other day I was at an event, and the 'look around' feature pinged and a cutie named Jojo was inviting me to her massage parlor. She said no sex, but to come and lets talk about it. (1565 Huashan Road Building 4, not far from Jiaotong Universtity Metro, photos attached) She was 26, tiny, I'd say 155, with a rock hard body, great be cups, and she had had a baby she admitted. I chose the 288 RMB 60 minute massage. The massage was the best I have had in a while, so I thought it must be veggie. However, when I grabbed her ass, she moved her pussy into my hand. In my broken mandarin, I asked about other services. Sex was definitely off the menu, but she agreed to remove clothes and enjoy BBBJ and 69 with me for a 500 RMB tip, but no sex in the store, she emphasized. The BBBJ and 69 and her moaning were as satisfying as the massage. After I left she pestered me to meet up again, especially at my house.

SO at the next opportunity when my wife was away, I invited her over for 1000 kuai short time. She was even sexier and funnier. And there was no de out a little, then she gave me a massage and spoke sweetly to me, kissing my cheek every few words. Eventually she left, but has been messaging me since that she has a crush on me and agreed to recruit her friend for my friend.

I am happy to share Jojo's massage parlor deets here and in the photos.

Be safe out there!

Uncle Ira.I checked this place out at lunch time. Didn't ask for Jojo. Wanted to see what else was available. Paid 258 for lingham release massage. Place has a shower. Got a good oil massage and HJ from an older provider. May repeat and ask for Jojo or continue to see what I get. Tip was 200 and she let me roam and let me handle her huge jugs.

Midwestern
05-02-18, 08:02
It's maybe 50 yards before you get to Neil Massage. I was there 4 days ago, so still open. The spa sign was low, near the door. A bit discrete. There's a desk to the side when you walk in, usually a guy behind the desk.I must be blind. I went back and still couldn't find it. I did see a couple of doors with no signs. Maybe your place opens late and just throws a sign outside the door when It's open. I went there in the afternoon, as I cannot monger at night. Wish you were a paid member on here so I could PM you. I feel a little bad cluttering up the board.

TedSzar
05-02-18, 09:50
Are Swissotel and Portman still girl friendly?

Thanks.

DoItUnderwater
05-02-18, 10:49
That location shows up on my apps / maps all the time but I've never been able to find it. Can you help me with the location?I have not been there yet but I believe it is at the intersection of Xianxia Lu and Pingtang Lu.

PartyFriend
05-02-18, 14:04
I checked this place out at lunch time. Didn't ask for Jojo. Wanted to see what else was available. Paid 258 for lingham release massage. Place has a shower. Got a good oil massage and HJ from an older provider. May repeat and ask for Jojo or continue to see what I get. Tip was 200 and she let me roam and let me handle her huge jugs.Went there this afternoon. Place is well cared for. Didn't ask for JoJo. Enjoyed the massage from nr 6, older friendly lady. Chose the 1 hour oil massage at 268. Very good value for money. HJ with plenty of roaming opportunity on a busty, very firm ass, and quite moist enthusiastic lady. Good shower to end. 300 for tip. Will go back for sure.

Aurangzeb
05-02-18, 17:06
I have not been there yet but I believe it is at the intersection of Xianxia Lu and Pingtang Lu.Oh that one. Been there.

ImageCreator
05-03-18, 00:35
Are Swissotel and Portman still girl friendly?

Thanks.Swiss, yes. Been here all week. Most amusing moment was judgemental looks from some chick in the elevator who was clearly with her husband (who could have been her dad). Yeah, judge me, gold digger.

SpiceCat
05-03-18, 02:10
I've been playing with the look around function on WeChat and MoMo and TanTan. Initially it's appeared easy, especially during the drought months.

Here's my experience which is formulaic and always follows a pattern. Many girls are happy to chat, but they're just improving their English or Chatting and that's going nowhere.

There are a lot of pimps posing as hot girls but the photos are so fake it's easy to sift through them.

I have on occasion called "the girl" over and they usually show up over an hour later than you call them over, she looks nothing like her pictures, is older and chubbier and a real problem to send off from the reception / door. Sex with her / them is at best quick and not very satisfying. They always ask for additional tips for every little service and that's a real put off. They always complain about how their boss isn't giving them anywhere near what you're paying and most of the time they're happy to leave as soon as you've paid them.

I've also met a few lovely looking girls who are happy to be getting into bed with a stranger after a little chit chat which is great!

However, this is a pattern too. First they want to meet you for a coffee, drink or worse dinner for which they undoubtedly want you to pay! Then they ask you for money to book a hotel room! Once in the room they ask for a Present / tip / HongBao! I have managed to postpone the request until after sex but the requests are even more pushy after sex. Sex itself is average! Both the girls I met at a hotel weren't willing to go down on me but were more than happy to ask for it. And both of them fell asleep after the first shot! I don't know if morning sex is on offer or not because I can't stay to find out! And these requests for shopping, handbags, presents and the like become a little annoying so I've blocked them. In short the professionals at saunas, from Manhattan and Judy's and from this websites recommendations are much better service and value for your money and peace of mind than DIY options.

TT2000
05-03-18, 07:52
Is it the one near Shuicheng Lu subway station? Speaking of Spring MPs, I have been to a few, and I always choose the most expensive massage (at least 336 rmb), and they always start giving me a HJ either before the flip of after, but they also always ask for a tip before I pop. Usually they are happy with 200, but to get their clothes off I had to go up to 300 or even 400. Are you guys getting HJs without having to tip? I can't speak Chinese, in case this factors into the equation.You can ask what's included in the package before started. Sometimes it needs to be tipped. However still better to agree in advance.

TT2000
05-03-18, 09:29
Is it the one near Shuicheng Lu subway station? Speaking of Spring MPs, I have been to a few, and I always choose the most expensive massage (at least 336 rmb), and they always start giving me a HJ either before the flip of after, but they also always ask for a tip before I pop. Usually they are happy with 200, but to get their clothes off I had to go up to 300 or even 400. Are you guys getting HJs without having to tip? I can't speak Chinese, in case this factors into the equation.Language is not the issue. Just ask for what's included in the package, or, agree on the services and tips before started. In some of the shops HJ or BBBJ is a standard. The one you went to seems not.

Midwestern
05-04-18, 01:43
Language is not the issue. Just ask for what's included in the package, or, agree on the services and tips before started. In some of the shops HJ or BBBJ is a standard. The one you went to seems not.In which shops is BBBJ a standard offer? I've been to 3 or 4 of them and it wasn't offered. Thanks.

FredFerb
05-04-18, 04:55
I find Rain and SNG / NLO to be almost identical (for example, price and service are quite similar) with one exception. Rain is a mega psycho (rhymes with a unt). At one point, I had been with almost every Rain girl. I thought the service was pretty good. But there has been a lot of turnover. Some of the cutest girls Ive ever boffed were Rain girls that have since left. The ones that remain, Jenny, Abbey, and Kitty, are all good. I had a major crush on Abbey because there was a dark side to her. Jenny is bubbly, but kind of a rusher. I once did a 3 some with Jenny and Abbey, but it was a bit rushed. Kitty is not that attractive, but she was GFE and a great lay, especially jockey. But I now stay away from Rain because she scares me for a couple of reasons, and maybe her current stable and service sux, as you say. Regarding, SNG / NLO, who do you recommend on there? I've been with most of them as well, and I'm not sure I'd rave about any. Some are nice and some are hot, but none are both. Let us know what you've found and enjoyed on NLO. Im espe curious to know if we have similar tastes.Yes. I can totally agree. Rain a mega psycho. My last experience with her agency was 6 weeks ago. And she is still "stalking" me about it. I was not happy with the girls (had 2 appointments during my stay) - one of the girls clearly had extremely fishy smell once you begin penetrating. And the other girls was not a GFE but I would call a "VE" - "Virgin Experience" - totally inexperienced. I stopped after some time because I felt I would "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)" her (which is not what I would like to do! She was really feeling bad, not a good experience for a client).

I gave feedback to rain. Kind of complaining. Now I am back home since weeks and she stills sends my messages. Insulting me, threatening to disclose my e-mail, wechat, etc. Pure Psycho!

The Guy
05-04-18, 14:59
Went back to one of my main saunas this week, 1st time back since the crackdown. Quality still high but pricing has skyrocketed. They said it's for protection, but who knows, might be lack of strong competition.

Anyway, experience reminded me why saunas can't be beat. Went with 900 series tall 22 year old from Hunan, 1 month in business. She was wonderfully enthusiastic and chatty, even suggested to me that I make her my mistress. Nearly model quality and had a great 70 minutes. Problem is, of course, price: I paid 2000, so north of US 300. Could have even gone up to S-series for another 300. I was hoping for 600- or 800-series, a little cheaper at 1500 and 1800 yuan, but didn't see anything I wanted. Same quality ass would have been 1300/1400 before the crackdown and maybe 900 yuan 3-4 years ago. Let's see if prices drop now.

I know will say too expensive, but this Hunan girl was beyond anything you'll get at Manhattan or Judy's. So if you want model or near-model looks, that seems to be the price.

Tommy Goat
05-04-18, 18:43
It was the last night of my business trip and my flight wasn't leaving until 11 the following morning, so I went down (solo) to Judys. It was a Thursday night and the place was about two-thirds full, probably 60:40 girls / guys. No problem getting a drink. Table service is quick (but then you're a target)- or alternatively go to the bar which looks as if it's guarded by girls on the stools. I didn't think much of the dancers, but there was some nice eye-candy and a wide range of nationalities.

Got picked on by a couple of Afrikans (one 6/10 and one 8/10 "Grace" Was very tempted with Grace and she had a good lean body that she pressed real close. But it was too early and so I wiggled free. It was almost impossible to be incognito there. You get hassled all the time, so I quit and went over to MH.

Oh my God what a difference. Place was heaving, girls everywhere. Many very hot! Immediately got pounced on by well-built Thai. Can't remember her name but she had huge breast that I couldn't keep my eyes off. After stroking my bulging cock, she took my hand and slowly stroked it up her leg. Constant eye contact all the time, not a blink. Then she brought my hand under her short skirt and to her pantyline. O what a surprise. There wasn't any! Still 100% eye contact, no blinking, she put the tips of my fingers on her smooth wet shaved lips and started to gyrate.

I was slowly getting off, but we were right in the middle of the club floor surrounded by many many people. I had only been there like three minutes tops and I needed to know she was the one.

A not-so-subtle withdrawl and a pissed-off lady gave me a breathing space. The "I'm looking for my friend" excuse only has so much traction!

I found a (rare) seat and was soon joined by a very stylish and demur Viet in a sexy black jumpsuit. Not pushy at all, but a truly beautiful face (my kind of 10). She only wanted 1200 (it was late) so I decided she was to good to refuse. We had to push Mis No-Knicks to get out and then a short taxi ride back to my hotel.

Truth be told I was a little worried that I'd picked a ladyboy or someone a bit too 'wooden' but good as gold, she stripped off, took a shower and then took the slowest walk towards my bed, full stark naked! What followed was extremely hot.

Experience 10/10. Would I go back? Yes, later this month I'm coming back for more!

ThomKatt
05-05-18, 16:10
Went back to one of my main saunas this week, 1st time back since the crackdown. Quality still high but pricing has skyrocketed. They said it's for protection, but who knows, might be lack of strong competition.

Anyway, experience reminded me why saunas can't be beat. Went with 900 series tall 22 year old from Hunan, 1 month in business. She was wonderfully enthusiastic and chatty, even suggested to me that I make her my mistress. Nearly model quality and had a great 70 minutes. Problem is, of course, price: I paid 2000, so north of US 300. Could have even gone up to S-series for another 300. I was hoping for 600- or 800-series, a little cheaper at 1500 and 1800 yuan, but didn't see anything I wanted. Same quality ass would have been 1300/1400 before the crackdown and maybe 900 yuan 3-4 years ago. Let's see if prices drop now.

I know will say too expensive, but this Hunan girl was beyond anything you'll get at Manhattan or Judy's. So if you want model or near-model looks, that seems to be the price.Where is this place / address? And you got a lineup?

SandmanS
05-05-18, 20:47
Met with Kim last week and had a amazing time with her. She looks way better in person than on her pictures.

She was very enthusiastic and eager to please. She did OWO, CIM and after doing the deed we had a nice intelligent chat.

Would definitely recommend.

https://nightlife.online/girls/Kim

Steve 9696
05-05-18, 23:40
It was the last night of my business trip and my flight wasn't leaving until 11 the following morning, so I went down (solo) to Judys. It was a Thursday night and the place was about two-thirds full, probably 60:40 girls / guys. No problem getting a drink. Table service is quick (but then you're a target)- or alternatively go to the bar which looks as if it's guarded by girls on the stools. I didn't think much of the dancers, but there was some nice eye-candy and a wide range of nationalities.

Got picked on by a couple of Afrikans (one 6/10 and one 8/10 "Grace" Was very tempted with Grace and she had a good lean body that she pressed real close. But it was too early and so I wiggled free. It was almost impossible to be incognito there. You get hassled all the time, so I quit and went over to MH.

Oh my God what a difference. Place was heaving, girls everywhere. Many very hot! Immediately got pounced on by well-built Thai. Can't remember her name but she had huge breast that I couldn't keep my eyes off. After stroking my bulging cock, she took my hand and slowly stroked it up her leg. Constant eye contact all the time, not a blink.Doh! I don't think I could have resisted pussy fingers girl, but more power to you. Manhattan is one of my favorite places on earth! A gaggle of gorgeous Viets all dying to bed you. I'm Jealous but love living vicariously. Thanks for the report and reinforcing my thoughts that Manhattan remains the best thing going in an otherwise constricted Shanghai P4P scene.

The Guy
05-05-18, 23:43
Where is this place / address? And you got a lineup?I can provide wechat for regular posters. Hard to use without Chinese, as there are no English speakers. It's near Xianxia (Beixinjing metro), not far from Shanghai Family United hospital, and they advertise quite a bit on the Chinese sites.

DoItUnderwater
05-06-18, 15:14
After a whole lot of walking, I finally found 76 Changshou Lu. When I read the previous report, I thought they were referring to the Changshou Lu Metro station. But, no, they were referring to the Jiangming Lu Station online 13, which is on Changshou Lu, but not near Changshou Lu station on line 7.

Anyone wanting more details can PM me.

By the time I found it, I was too tired to go in. Perhaps tomorrow. Anyone have a recommendation for who I should request?

Thanks.

Doit.

Tommy Goat
05-06-18, 21:10
Doh! I don't think I could have resisted pussy fingers girl, but more power to you. Manhattan is one of my favorite places on earth! A gaggle of gorgeous Viets all dying to bed you. I'm Jealous but love living vicariously. Thanks for the report and reinforcing my thoughts that Manhattan remains the best thing going in an otherwise constricted Shanghai P4P scene.Yep, well she was hard to shake off. Followed me round the club for about 40 minutes before I finally got away. I never knew why the pussy was wet. She could have just come out the washroom for all I knew! Anyway if you want to check her out, I can't remember her name but she smokes these crazy thin cigar things (a cheroot? Report back if you get it together with her. She had a good figure, big rack, not skinny!

Anyway I'm back later this month so I might brave her myself!

Playboy2000
05-06-18, 23:40
I've been going to Shanghai off and on for the past 8 years. The Mongering scene in Shanghai has already changed a lot in that short time span (mostly downhill).

Eight years back, the girls in Manhattan were a healthy mix of nationalities, with many girls from the PI. Up until just last year, there was a great sauna scene in ShanghI, although prices were going up 10% every year. Up to just last year, happy ending MPs were plentiful and everywhere. Going 5 years back there were also many BBS. About two years ago there was even a vibrant dancehall scene in Shanghai.

But some people say that the scene in Shanghsi was even better 10+ and 20+ years ago. If any of readers lived through that, it would be great in you could send a detailed history of that era. Would be a very interesting read. Anyone up to the challenge?

DoItUnderwater
05-07-18, 01:37
In my walk the other night, I went by the old Buddha and 851 Shanxia locations. Buddha is completely gone, 851 is still there but glass doors locked from the inside with heavy curtains so I could not see if the inside had been damaged. Other places on Changping Lu also closed with lights off.

On a brighter note, after my long walk I decided to stop by an old place near Jinshiajiang Lu for just a foot massage. As I got into view, I was concerned because all the outside signs was gone. But, the door was open with light inside so I walked in. The girls were quite surprised to see a laowai but they took me to a room and sent in a tall girl with real cleavage and a short dress with stockings, who spoke zero English. Definitely the hottest girl in the place (body 8, face 6). With hand signals, convinced her I wanted foot massage.

A couple minutes later, my feet in hot water bucket with some salts, she sat spread wide with the stockings barely hiding her meimei. Foot massage began high up on my inner thigh. Within about 10 seconds she grabbed my didi and offered FS for 268. I was so tired and in need of foot massage, I resisted. I tried to ask how much for just BJ but she didn't understand and kept motioning to her mouth and meimei for 268. Had she dropped those stockings, she probably would have tipped me to the FS. An hour of relaxing and foot massage, I was ready to walk the rest of the way back to my hotel.

Didn't get her name or number. I did try to indicate I will return for the full treatment another day.

Members with multiple, real field reports are welcome to PM me for details.

Be safe, have fun.

Doit.

Beijing4987
05-07-18, 03:40
A worker at 851 Shaanxi North Road spa told me it would reopen June 1st. I went by yesterday to check out the outside. The glass doors were intact with the usual bicycle lock. The video she sent of an MP glass front door getting smashed was another location. The outside steps and 7-11 type store next door looked similar. The video of the trashed rooms looked like the ones at 851. I'll post again about this location if it opens again.

JginSH
05-07-18, 06:04
Hey all,

Reading the Shanghai forum for the past couple months and thought I should start contributing.

Sauna's- The old Dongguan Sauna (Next top Merchant's Bank at Henan Lu and Zhoujin Lu) that got shuttered during the crackdown looks to be in the process of renovation. They look to be going for a bit less shady / more upstanding branding than the previous version (added glass doors and a large sign saying massage spa). I'm not concerned that the place has gone completely legit as a lot of goons I used to see around the Donguan version are back supervising construction. It looks like its getting ready to open any day so I'll report back.

On the down market end of the spectrum I've been noticing an increased number low end oil massage places north of peoples square. On Beijing Lu and the other on Xinchang lu. Standard tug shop experience, feels like you're getting a great deal until they start negotiating tips, and then you feel like an idiot for not going to spring on Maoming lu. If you find yourself in an emergency in that area.

I haven't been back to Spring since they took the showers out of the rooms about 8 months back, any insights?

RaviJambua
05-07-18, 10:06
That's interesting. I visit Shanghai very infrequently and for small periods of time, and I was so disappointed when SNG went out. Have tried Rain 2 times and I would rate my experience 7/10. Good attitude, but not much experience or much assets. But overall, shanghai has become expensive. I miss the 1000 specials of SNG.

ThomKatt
05-08-18, 08:57
Hey all,

I haven't been back to Spring since they took the showers out of the rooms about 8 months back, any insights?I was at the Spring massage in Xuhui (there's 2 locations, I went to the wanping II location). If you tell them you want an oil massage, this location was 398, it comes standard with an HJ. She gave me an half a $$ed back oil massage before she started kissing me and dragging her lips on my body (10 minutes into the massage) and then flipped me over to give me the happy ending. She left me grab and suck her breasts while grabbing her ass. I played with her little sister outside of her pants, but when I tried to go inside, she stopped me. She also asked if she wanted me to have her use her mouth and also tried to sell me a 4 hands massage, pretty sure these were extra. Afterwards, she gave me a head, neck, and shoulders massage. Showers are still inside the room. I didn't have to tip. I also got a foot massage but I got a guy, and he was using too much force, I had to tell him too strong 3 times, he obviously didn't get the hint, but my feet felt amazing afterwards. I even took at a nap there afterwards.

ChinaGm
05-08-18, 17:52
Hi,

Last month I was in SH, century Park zone.

Reading about Spring spa, I decided to go to the closest one, in Pudong Street.

I paid the 338 rmb massage version.

Very nice place, beautiful girl. But.

The girl asked for more other 500 rmb of tip for HJ, without any possibility to reduce the amount.

So I gave up.

According to that I presume that there are different "categories" of Spring massage.

Midwestern
05-08-18, 23:19
Hi,

Last month I was in SH, century Park zone.

Reading about Spring spa, I decided to go to the closest one, in Pudong Street.

I paid the 338 rmb massage version.

Very nice place, beautiful girl. But.

The girl asked for more other 500 rmb of tip for HJ, without any possibility to reduce the amount.

So I gave up.

According to that I presume that there are different "categories" of Spring massage.I have been to several Spring locations, and I always got the most expensive massage, around 336 rmb, and I always got asked for a large tip for HJ. I am pretty sure it is because I speak almost no Chinese and so the girl thinks I am a one-time client so she's got very little to lose by asking for a huge tip, like 300-500. At one place, the girl insisted on 500 tip and I said no and she strongly indicated it would be worth it, so I stupidly said okay because I was curious. I have to admit it was a good HJ and she did get almost entirely naked, but not worth 500 obviously. Afterwards, I asked for her wechat and she was surprised and gave it to me. The following week she sent me a message and asked me if I was still in Shanghai and I told her yes and she asked me to come see her. I told her she ripped me off. She apologized and told me to return. So I did. This time the HJ was longer and even better. I then offered her 200 and she was thrilled. And now she sends me a message every few days. She even came to work early one time to accomodate my schedule. So if you can pass as a potential regular customer then you can probably tip 100-200 or nothing at all. The main downside to collecting any girl's wechat is they then think you are their regular client and may be hurt or angry if you see another girl at their location, LOL.

MisterLii
05-09-18, 06:03
Hey all,


I haven't been back to Spring since they took the showers out of the rooms about 8 months back, any insights?"The Ya'an / Zhaojiabang Spring didn't take the showers from the rooms and the 358 option is still on the unofficial books, even if the service is reduced to a basic he massage so they seem to have survived the inclement weather."

That's what I would have written two months ago after a previous visit. However I went last week and everything is different. The front desk staff were new and didn't really know the drill. The massage lady (more mature than the usual) turned up in the more traditional tunic found in veggie shops. The shower was still in the room, but I had to walk down the corridor to another room where all the furniture had been removed and use the shower there.

The massage, was excellent so I was beginning to think they had gone legit and, TBH, it was so good, I wouldn't have been that worried. However, after the flip, she started 'testing the waters' to see if I was interested in more. Then asked for a 400 tip. I managed to get that down to 200 and she gave me one of the best HEs that I've experienced at Spring.

So, physically a win-win but financially a bit of a fail. There's another place, not to far away that's more expensive than Spring where the service has been improving after the storms and where I have yet to be asked for tips. I'll go there for now. PM for details if you're interested.

BlahMan333
05-11-18, 19:20
So, is SH basically totally dead in terms of saunas? Any info appreciated.

Jude Bright
05-11-18, 21:10
So, is SH basically totally dead in terms of saunas? Any info appreciated.Many SN have reopen in low profile. If you have been there before or if you have old contact, maybe it is easy to get in through wechat or qq. I have a few old contacts. But I have to be careful to give out as I do not want the get then in trouble.

Jb.

Tyb60
05-12-18, 01:05
Many SN have reopen in low profile. If you have been there before or if you have old contact, maybe it is easy to get in through wechat or qq. I have a few old contacts. But I have to be careful to give out as I do not want the get then in trouble.

Jb.Any advice on how to sample safely? Do they have new arrangements with the authorities or run the risk of a raid at any time.

Very interested now to try the top end models, but pricing for the outcall is crazy and am suspicious of b / S.

Came very close to visiting on last trip, if I go will report back!

Jayson420
05-12-18, 07:17
I have been going to Spring massage for about 4 years now.

YMMV in each place. But I would say the Meridian massage (or oil massage for foreigners) includes he. No tip needed. But if you want them to touch them or do anything extra, then tips required.

My best experience was at the one on maoming lu. When I was on my stomach and she was standing near the top of the table by my head. She slips of her shoes and climbs onto the table. She straddles my head and is massaging downward onto my back. I could feel the warmth from her LS on the back of my head. She spreads her legs a bit more and her LS gets even closer to my head. While massaging my back. Eventually she is actually grinding her LS through her panties onto my head. It was pretty hot.

Flip over later and gives me a great HJ along with BBBJ for a 200 tip. It was great. I got her weixin contact. And then each time I wanted to go, I would ping her and have her schedule for me. So I would ensure to see her.

I think by about my 4th visit, we were basically just doing FS in the room for 60 minutes. Then I would tip her 500 and pay the massage (258 at the time for members).

If you build a repoire with the girls over multiple visits everything is on menu.

Had FS with another girl on my second visit at the spring on Jiang Ning Lu. She was very hot. Also got her wechat and set up second visit through her.

Had BBBJ from another girl on zhaojiebang lu on first visit.

I did visit the waping lu branch last week. Its 398 rmb now for he massage. Getting a bit steep.

Curious if anyone has any other new places to try. You can PM me if you want to share.

J.

The Guy
05-12-18, 12:47
Stopped in at a Spring Massage today. Followed advice of many on this forum visiting a Spring outside the city center. This one on the no. 2 metro line prior to Hongqiao airport. Then walked for a while.

Probably true you get more for your $ outside the center. Did 398 all included and was not pestered for tip. I like it that way. Regular massage (no horseplay), then she completely stripped, showered (in room) and seemed happy to do anything I wanted with her. Might have even been upset I didn't feel like screwing her.

Not a bad deal, I guess, but I really don't like the inability to choose from a lineup. Saw other providers while exiting that I would have preferred. No knockouts, of course, but more to my liking. Well, I guess that's what they give you for sixty bucks.

By the way, I'm getting hit up regularly for addresses of establishments I report on. That's cool, but I won't provide for those who have not posted their own helpful accounts for others. Surprised how many don't get that.

Dex Xie
05-12-18, 19:35
Arrived in Shanghai. I'm actually in PuXi area. Visited an old massage place on Xietu Rd near Shanghai stadium. Prices posted was only 188 RMB, but they also have a 328 RMB option. Management specifically said no tips. Price includes girl getting naked and BBBJCIM finish. She was mid / late 20's, short and HWP. Disclaimer, I'm Asian and speak fluent Chinese. Don't read Chinese so well though.

Would like to hit up Manhattan sometime, but would prefer going with someone. When I was in Manila, I just got super bored just scoping things out at similar bars (or maybe it's just not my thing, who knows).

Also, I flew from from San Jose, where in the preceding days, I saw 3 different K-girls (one repeat) at 220 USD / hour. If any contributing members go there, I can provide some info. Two girls where late 20's, MSOG, bbjcim, and full GFE spa treatment. Third girl was somewhat unique. Very early 20's (didn't bother with makeup), not so GFE / pfe, but super hot (I like petite spinners).

Also, hope my home VPN works for the duration of my stay. 2 years ago when I was here, it stopped working like after 2 weeks, which was a bummer. And I'm jet lagged, as its almost 3 am here. So I'm pretty screwed tomorrow.

Steve 9696
05-13-18, 01:30
Arrived in Shanghai. I'm actually in PuXi area. Visited an old massage place on Xietu Rd near Shanghai stadium. Prices posted was only 188 RMB, but they also have a 328 RMB option. Management specifically said no tips. Price includes girl getting naked and BBBJCIM finish. She was mid / late 20's, short and HWP. Disclaimer, I'm Asian and speak fluent Chinese. Don't read Chinese so well though.

Would like to hit up Manhattan sometime, but would prefer going with someone. When I was in Manila, I just got super bored just scoping things out at similar bars (or maybe it's just not my thing, who knows).

Also, I flew from from San Jose, where in the preceding days, I saw 3 different K-girls (one repeat) at 220 USD / hour. If any contributing members go there, I can provide some info. Two girls where late 20's, MSOG, bbjcim, and full GFE spa treatment. Third girl was somewhat unique. Very early 20's (didn't bother with makeup), not so GFE / pfe, but super hot (I like petite spinners).

Also, hope my home VPN works for the duration of my stay. 2 years ago when I was here, it stopped working like after 2 weeks, which was a bummer. And I'm jet lagged, as its almost 3 am here. So I'm pretty screwed tomorrow.I have not done Manilla so I can't compare, but Manhattan is unlike anywhere else I've been in a bar. You will not be bored. If anything you might feel a little intimidated. The girls are all interested in you and some can be pretty aggressive. I personally find it great fun. You just have to be firm if an aggressive girl is not your type and that can be hard with her grinding against you. It is a once in a lifetime experience IMO. I would not miss it if in Shanghai.

The Guy
05-13-18, 06:19
I have not done Manilla so I can't compare, but Manhattan is unlike anywhere else I've been in a bar. You will not be bored. If anything you might feel a little intimidated. The girls are all interested in you and some can be pretty aggressive. I personally find it great fun. You just have to be firm if an aggressive girl is not your type and that can be hard with her grinding against you. It is a once in a lifetime experience IMO. I would not miss it if in Shanghai.Yeah, Manhattan is pretty good for what it is. I'm not sure there's a bar in HCMC with the same Viet talent (though varies some from night to night).

Simon Wagstaff
05-13-18, 13:58
I have not done Manilla so I can't compare, but Manhattan is unlike anywhere else I've been in a bar. You will not be bored. If anything you might feel a little intimidated. The girls are all interested in you and some can be pretty aggressive. I personally find it great fun. You just have to be firm if an aggressive girl is not your type and that can be hard with her grinding against you. It is a once in a lifetime experience IMO. I would not miss it if in Shanghai.Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur is very similar to Manhattan, actually a little nicer because it's a bit bigger and more open to the outside. Also much cheaper for nice girls, especially Vietnamese, but all flavors.

Ipanema in Singapore is also a lot of fun, and similar. Prices range from 150-200 Singapore.

I certainly met a stunning Viet at Manhattan, and still chat with her. Priciest of the bunch.

Midwestern
05-13-18, 14:11
Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur is very similar to Manhattan, actually a little nicer because it's a bit bigger and more open to the outside. Also much cheaper for nice girls, especially Vietnamese, but all flavors.

Ipanema in Singapore is also a lot of fun, and similar. Prices range from 150-200 Singapore.

I certainly met a stunning Viet at Manhattan, and still chat with her. Priciest of the bunch.I understand Der Xie. I used to love going to these takeout places when I didn't mind staying out late, but it's still better to go with a friend so you can drink with your buddy while eyeing the talent and pondering who to take home. If you go alone, you get hounded by one after another for a fast deal. For me, Ipanema in SG was an exception, since it had that Galaga video arcade game, so I had something to do while scouting the talent. I played that game for so many hours over so many years, LOL.

Midwestern
05-13-18, 14:38
A friendly suggestion to my friends who cannot do outcall or takeout (because (1) wife is at home or (2) hotel is not girl friendly or (3) you're afraid of being seen), try asking the girl to book a short time hotel for you. I got the idea from the infamous Beverly Jones. She suggested it and that's how we always met. Chinese people can book a hotel for 4 hours for 100 RMB. (FYI, I tried to book them myself, but have been denied because I'm a foreigner). I have to admit, you may need to establish trust with a girl first. For example, I had to book a Hotel 168 a few times for the initial rendezvous, which set me back at least 250 RMB (and it's a hassle anyway). But once the girl knows you, you tell her you can only see her if she books the hotel that you'll reimburse. They often will oblige. And girls like Wenli (on classifieds) and the well known Hujing and Maria, and others, all booked the short time hotels for me from the very first encounter. For them, cancellation is fully refundable so they don't care if you flake on the date. Just a suggestion. Probably many of you are already doing this.

Dex Xie
05-13-18, 18:38
In regards to Manhattan, the intimidation factor is definitely a thing, but I think having a wingman puts a perspective in things. Namely, being with other like minded people may prevent an otherwise lone person from doing something stupid. I would definitely check it out solo, but would prefer to go with someone. Will try this weekend (Friday / Saturday).

Also, it's nice that they blocked my home VPN already (signed up for another service encrypts the handshake). Ironically, my work VPN is also blocked (which has never happened before). I may switch hotels if that's the case.

Steve 9696
05-13-18, 20:54
In regards to Manhattan, the intimidation factor is definitely a thing, but I think having a wingman puts a perspective in things. Namely, being with other like minded people may prevent an otherwise lone person from doing something stupid. I would definitely check it out solo, but would prefer to go with someone. Will try this weekend (Friday / Saturday).

Also, it's nice that they blocked my home VPN already (signed up for another service encrypts the handshake). Ironically, my work VPN is also blocked (which has never happened before). I may switch hotels if that's the case.Suggest you take a taxi to the Blind Pig which is literally 100 feet away. Nice bar. Have a Jack and Coke or two maybe some BBQ and you will be good to brave the onslaught. A little social lubrication really sets you up for a good night.

The Guy
05-13-18, 21:09
A friendly suggestion to my friends who cannot do outcall or takeout (because (1) wife is at home or (2) hotel is not girl friendly or (3) you're afraid of being seen), try asking the girl to book a short time hotel for you. I got the idea from the infamous Beverly Jones. She suggested it and that's how we always met. Chinese people can book a hotel for 4 hours for 100 RMB. (FYI, I tried to book them myself, but have been denied because I'm a foreigner). I have to admit, you may need to establish trust with a girl first. For example, I had to book a Hotel 168 a few times for the initial rendezvous, which set me back at least 250 RMB (and it's a hassle anyway). But once the girl knows you, you tell her you can only see her if she books the hotel that you'll reimburse. They often will oblige. And girls like Wenli (on classifieds) and the well known Hujing and Maria, and others, all booked the short time hotels for me from the very first encounter. For them, cancellation is fully refundable so they don't care if you flake on the date. Just a suggestion. Probably many of you are already doing this.It's a good suggestion but might not work as well with the foreign talent in Manhattan and Judy's.

Acejack
05-14-18, 08:46
Judys and Manhattan have IMHO taken a dive. Who wants to go to a place where you pay about US rates for a choice of women from 1 COUNTRY? The prices are way over the odds for what you are getting. Now I have no problem with Vietnamese women at all they can be super hot but when I am in China I do like at least some local flavours too. The fun is not only after you choose but rather is to be had chatting with your mates with girls hanging of every part of you and the furniture. I get that, but gone are the days however when Shanghai was the fun capital of the world.

Tasss
05-14-18, 09:35
I've been going to Shanghai off and on for the past 8 years. The Mongering scene in Shanghai has already changed a lot in that short time span (mostly downhill).PB2 K, we've been in touch through PM since a while ago. I agree the SH scene is pretty shit compared to even 3 years back. Most SNs are not advertising as openly and those who are are charging US prices, 1400+ per session. On my way to whatever hotel I'm staying at, I used to see 2-3 BBSs in the evening, now there's nothing. They're still there I'm sure, but not as easy to find. It's my first day in SH for this trip and the prices I'm being quoted are really for the desperate.

The earliest I've been to SH was in 2007. Many options at great prices. Not sure how it was compared with Dongguan at that time, but met so many good looking girls from saunas and BBSs willing to go back to my hotel for long and overnight sessions for 400-700 rmb. Being from out of the country was a huge plus. I think '15 was about when it really started going down hill.

The Guy
05-14-18, 12:12
Judys and Manhattan have IMHO taken a dive. Who wants to go to a place where you pay about US rates for a choice of women from 1 COUNTRY? The prices are way over the odds for what you are getting. Now I have no problem with Vietnamese women at all they can be super hot but when I am in China I do like at least some local flavours too. The fun is not only after you choose but rather is to be had chatting with your mates with girls hanging of every part of you and the furniture. I get that, but gone are the days however when Shanghai was the fun capital of the world.I disagree that you pay US prices. In the USA, I can't get an all-nighter with a 7-8 level girl for 300 bucks. But yeah, Shanghai is not Pattaya price-wise.

I like saunas because I can afford to do ST with a near-model. Eliot Spitzer paid $4,300. In a sauna, I'll shag the same calibre (but an Asian version) for $300. Much less than US pricing.

Tommy Goat
05-14-18, 17:32
Has anyone tried a take-out from the dodgey looking bar opposite Judy's? It's never very full and so I am wary of going with any of the girls there. I've seen one or two stunners who I would definitely go with if the price was right, but my gut instinct tells me there's a scam going on somewhere there.

Any advice my fellow mongers (I am planning a visit next week, so will stick to Manhattan or Judy's unless you tell me otherwise!

Dex Xie
05-14-18, 23:07
Judys and Manhattan have IMHO taken a dive. Who wants to go to a place where you pay about US rates for a choice of women from 1 COUNTRY? The prices are way over the odds for what you are getting. Now I have no problem with Vietnamese women at all they can be super hot but when I am in China I do like at least some local flavours too. The fun is not only after you choose but rather is to be had chatting with your mates with girls hanging of every part of you and the furniture. I get that, but gone are the days however when Shanghai was the fun capital of the world.IMO, short term rates for upscale girls are pretty ridiculous (as pointed out in my San Jose K-girls pricing). But LT still favors Shanghai by a long shot. Main issue is this is Shanghai, if you move 1 hour out (by train), prices will drop considerably. And then theres the cheap local options, but unfortunately, you need to speak mandarin to get those. I still want to find a petite / slim massage girl to take home, but haven't found one with body I like so far.

Speaking of which, I promised Steve9696 for a field report. I went to the foot massage place he outlined a few days ago. Was kind of hard to find (no signs indicating massage in English), but found it. As you enter the hallway you see posters of massages. Was asked in Chinese whether I was here for massage or girl. You can guess what I answered. Girl was 5'5-6/ HWP / Dyed hair. Led upstairs through locked gate to bedroom. Showered (f this humidity). Total damage for 3 BJ / FS quickie was 268. Girl was not my type, as I favor prefer petite / slim. Didn't see anyone else working. Won't repeat due to distance from my hotel. As I took the bus home from work, I noticed 3-4 different massage places around Nandan / S4 intersection with big bold letters 'Massage' or 'Spa'. May check those out.

Hopefully this new VPN holds out.

Midwestern
05-15-18, 01:45
I was there last night, in the pedestrian walking street where all the Korean bbq restaurants are (it's at the southeast part of the intersection between Hongquan and Hongxin). I noticed about a half-dozen, maybe more, massage parlors and spas. I wanted to check them out, but I was with colleagues. I was able to get a quick glance at one menu, and prices ranged from 138 to 398. Does anyone have any intel on any of these places since the crackdown?

Midwestern
05-15-18, 05:46
I disagree that you pay US prices. In the USA, I can't get an all-nighter with a 7-8 level girl for 300 bucks. But yeah, Shanghai is not Pattaya price-wise.

I like saunas because I can afford to do ST with a near-model. Eliot Spitzer paid $4,300. In a sauna, I'll shag the same calibre (but an Asian version) for $300. Much less than US pricing.In most US cities, you can find amateur talent for overnight for 300 USD by searching the seekingarrangements website. In the larger cities the price will be 500 USD. I bagged almost 2 dozen women this way. But I admit it takes time to find them. Anyway, just a friendly suggestion.

The Guy
05-15-18, 12:55
In most US cities, you can find amateur talent for overnight for 300 USD by searching the seekingarrangements website. In the larger cities the price will be 500 USD. I bagged almost 2 dozen women this way. But I admit it takes time to find them. Anyway, just a friendly suggestion.Maybe so, and I'm constrained by the legal consequences in the US. However, would a $300 all-nighter in the US be at the same level as one of the hotter Manhattan chicks?

Zozzimus5
05-15-18, 13:43
I had the most ridiculous experience on Sunday. Ordered takeout from a well reviewed girl. Photos were real, every bit as pretty as advertised. But getting into conversation in mandarin, she got boorish. It was cordial and maybe just a function of where she's from, but it killed whatever vibe I was trying to create (and there was absolutely no vibe coming from her). She started doing man-burps and getting into giggle fits, I just could not prompt her into sexy mode. Eventually she just went to a BJ, but decided it would go well with. Of all things. A titty twister. Like not my nipples, but the whole pec, she decided that digging her fingers in and wrenching shit around would be sexy. What in the actual f* Constant spitting into the trash can. I wasn't getting hard whatsoever. Eventually she took in my facial expression and realized she was failing. She stopped giggling and got serious for a few more minutes, but it was too late. I rolled my eyes and told her to stop.

We got dressed and she dumped her life problems on me for the next twenty minutes. They were serious so I heard her out and gave her some advice, but what the hell. I'm going to try the service again be / see everything else was great (from accurate photos to easy setup) but wow. Angel face + totally unprofessional. I'm not going to name the girl because I don't think she deserves punishment just for lacking class, but if anyone reading this has an inkling this person is working for them. For goodness sake give her some training in behaving like a lady on the job.

Sinofaguo
05-15-18, 18:00
I'm not going to name the girl because I don't think she deserves punishment just for lacking classEither you believe the problem is more about you being picky and then I don't see the point of this report.

Or you feel her attitude really wasn't appropriate and yet I don't see the point of the report either since you haven't identified the provider you are reporting on.

The Guy
05-15-18, 21:14
I had the most ridiculous experience on Sunday. Ordered takeout from a well reviewed girl. I'm not going to name the girl because I don't think she deserves punishment just for lacking class, but if anyone reading this has an inkling this person is working for them. For goodness sake give her some training in behaving like a lady on the job.I doubt anyone who can influence the girl cares to read this forum, would want to take action or could even identify her from your report. You got the wrong audience, and your message is too vague.

Poor service is a problem whether hiring a girl to screw or a guy to put a new roof on your house. Best defense for consumer is sharing names of poor providers with other potential clients.

Tyb60
05-15-18, 23:18
I had the most ridiculous experience on Sunday. Ordered takeout from a well reviewed girl. Good to see you did research, now the only question for us is who is the girl with all them positive reviews to compare to your horrible.

I come here for some intel and or prospective grounding.

The best you can do as other posters mentioned is provide detailed feedback so bros can avoid or coach said girl to how to be a proper provider. BTW when it ain't working I just tell it straight, some have different ideas of what men want and others I have met just knew.

Midwestern
05-16-18, 01:46
I l'm not going to name the girl because I don't think she deserves punishment just for lacking class, but if anyone reading this has an inkling this person is working for them. For goodness sake give her some training in behaving like a lady on the job.If you don't name the girl then your post is useless. Thanks for nothing.

Tazman099
05-16-18, 08:56
In regards to Manhattan, the intimidation factor is definitely a thing, but I think having a wingman puts a perspective in things. Namely, being with other like minded people may prevent an otherwise lone person from doing something stupid. I would definitely check it out solo, but would prefer to go with someone. Will try this weekend (Friday / Saturday).

Also, it's nice that they blocked my home VPN already (signed up for another service encrypts the handshake). Ironically, my work VPN is also blocked (which has never happened before). I may switch hotels if that's the case.Check out Shadowsocks. Works great!

Tazman099
05-16-18, 09:14
In most US cities, you can find amateur talent for overnight for 300 USD by searching the seekingarrangements website. In the larger cities the price will be 500 USD. I bagged almost 2 dozen women this way. But I admit it takes time to find them. Anyway, just a friendly suggestion.I just checked your suggested site out and was really shocked to see it still up. Most 'dating' sites in America shut down due to the new regulations. Or have they found away around it?

Midwestern
05-16-18, 12:52
I just checked your suggested site out and was really shocked to see it still up. Most 'dating' sites in America shut down due to the new regulations. Or have they found away around it?Hi Taz, I have no idea. The last time I was active on it was about 15 months ago. I'm more active on the rubmaps site to find FS in AMPS in the states.

Zozzimus5
05-16-18, 14:35
Went to see for myself based on recs on this forum. Easy to find. Just south of weihai lu, near nanjing lu subway stop. Says "spring massage" in English on the second floor of the building, just take the elevator up.

They asked what I wanted and after some awkward pointing at the menu they asked if I wanted the oil massage for 328 - not on the menu of course. Went into a room, and a few minutes later a cute girl poked her head in to give me a towel for shower. Good features under heavy makeup, I'm guessing early 30's. Extroverted and friendly, I decided to go for it. I complained that the towel was wet and she said "just don't use it on your privates it'll be fine" LOL. She asked if I wanted the premium oil for an extra 40. I turned her down. What is premium oil.

She gave a really good massage. Strong hands. We did the usual small talk. Where am I from, where did I learn chinese, yadda yadda. After five minutes she moved to groin and butt. A little sexy but not overt. When it got to little brother, she moved her face in, started moaning, gave me some light kisses. Was not expecting GFE! Good technique.

"So you know this requires a tip right?" I asked how much. 300 to feel her up. I told her I'd tip her, but I was not giving 300 to feel her up. "but its down there!" I told her I didn't care. I asked about BJ, but she said its not on the menu. Don't think FS was either. Then she tried to sell VIP starting at 1000. I told her to stop, and that I'd tip her 200, and she'd do what she will. She stopped the sales pitch, took of her shirt, and told me to help myself to a feel.

The rest of the HJ was premium. Was also happy with the looks and attitude. She was no 38. Compared to 76 changshou (which I went to three months ago and does do BBJs), it was worse value but more GFE and less mechanical.

Dex Xie
05-16-18, 23:24
I just checked your suggested site out and was really shocked to see it still up. Most 'dating' sites in America shut down due to the new regulations. Or have they found away around it?SA is a sugar daddy site. Last I checked, it requires membership (for guys) at $75/ month to message girls. Maybe worth it these days because of FOSTA or whatever its called. Just find someone and cancel cause that money adds up.

Thinking about taking a train to Suzhou city to check out the dance halls this weekend.

Jay Bird
05-17-18, 04:09
Hi,

I haven't been to a sauna for a year or two. Thought I might go again but I find it hard to locate a good one. Which sites are you guys using to locate sauna managers? I Have used the one below:

http://52longfeng.com/

If anyone have other suggestions it's appreciated. I understandthe sites have to be in Chinese, I can speak Chinese and Google can help me to translate the writing.

Midwestern
05-17-18, 10:07
I checked this place out at lunch time. Didn't ask for Jojo. Wanted to see what else was available. Paid 258 for lingham release massage. Place has a shower. Got a good oil massage and HJ from an older provider. May repeat and ask for Jojo or continue to see what I get. Tip was 200 and she let me roam and let me handle her huge jugs.Went back and got a different older provider. Again, very good HJ. These old providers may have been giving HJs for over 20 years now, so they really know what to do. This lady did something with my asshole with her finger and I came hard and suddenly, without warning. Probably the most I came in years. She didn't ask for a tip. So HJs are included in the 258 lingham relief massage.

Paal8
05-17-18, 13:26
After a whole lot of walking, I finally found 76 Changshou Lu. When I read the previous report, I thought they were referring to the Changshou Lu Metro station. But, no, they were referring to the Jiangming Lu Station online 13, which is on Changshou Lu, but not near Changshou Lu station on line 7.

Anyone wanting more details can PM me.

By the time I found it, I was too tired to go in. Perhaps tomorrow. Anyone have a recommendation for who I should request?

Thanks.

Doit.I suggest numberr 9, nice girl with good rack and will do catbath and BBBJ.

Note the comments on this forum on cleanliness of this place. I haven't been back there for a few months.

DoItUnderwater
05-19-18, 16:28
I suggest numberr 9, nice girl with good rack and will do catbath and BBBJ.

Note the comments on this forum on cleanliness of this place. I haven't been back there for a few months.Thanks. I have been to 76 since I posted and got a very nice, skinny girl who spoke no English and I speak only very limited Chinese. I didn't get her number unfortunately. I would repeat with her when I go again.

Showers still in place and working. After shower she started little massage but not much. Cat bath and the rubber tongue thing, then some teasing of junior and some rimming. She got naked and turned sideways as she put junior in her mouth. After some FIV, she moved over for some DATY. Very clean and almost a minty taste. It wasn't long before we both busted and she held in her mouth until she spit in the shower. Very sweet and sexy girl.

Damage 288.

Have fun. Be safe.

Doit.

Aurangzeb
05-21-18, 10:29
So I was wandering around and saw another foot massage place at the south west corner of Yingang E Lu and Huaxu Highway.

An older (30 ish) lady was behind the counter. The girls (all late 20's, early 30's) were dressed in blue miniskirts and were all wearing heels. My spidey-sense began to tingle!

Sure enough, CNY188 gives you a (very good, better than anything I've recently got at Spring) full-body oil massage, and a decent he, no tips asked. The veggie massage is CNY160.

Andersson25
05-21-18, 20:49
I hope to much haven't change since my last trip to SH. Did some regular research on this forum and decided to go for Jing An and some Manhattan-fun as a base-plan. Planning to stay at Paramount, should be guest friendly. Head off to blind pig for food and drinks, move on to Manhattan for chatting and partying with the girls and hopefully tip a nice lady 1000 to come back to Paramount for 1-2 hours. Still OK price for a ST? I have no issue with going out alone, used to it. Was also thinking about going to The Spot, is it still open? I got a feeling there was a lot of semi-pros there. Someone mentioned a street with girl-bars (semi-pros that ask you to buy drinks for some company in the bar) but I can not find the post, anyone knows where to find these kind of bars in Jing An? Or any other advice on how to meet English speaking semi-pros?

Amnesia
05-22-18, 12:57
I'll be in Shanghai for a short business trip.

Reading the forums so far, I understand most people go to Manhattan. Understand it's a freelancer bar to pick up a girl and take to your hotel.

Apart from Manhattan, are there any other recommended spots? Especially looking for sauna- or massage- or brothel-like places.

Paal8
05-22-18, 14:20
I must be blind. I went back and still couldn't find it. I did see a couple of doors with no signs. Maybe your place opens late and just throws a sign outside the door when It's open. I went there in the afternoon, as I cannot monger at night. Wish you were a paid member on here so I could PM you. I feel a little bad cluttering up the board.This place is nog easy to spot. But can't miss it if you check out the small row of shops on FaHuaZhen between Neil's massage and the crossing with ZhongDeLu. Went there on Sunday night around 7:30 pm and lights were out. No one visible from the outside but after a discreet knock on the glass door a guy came out and opened the door. 279 and 379 Options, I felt like having sex so went for 379. Not a small place. Maybe 10 rooms with reasonable decoration. One could easily mistake this for a legit place. Taken upstairs by a 30+ girl (body 8, face 6/7, not bad at all) who. After a shower and half assed massage. Said just he was included. Only for an extra 200 she would get naked. No BJ and no sex. No sex in MP's anywhere in Shanghai, she said. Yeah right!

And that from a girl dressed like she works on a porn set. Having read the report from SnrMan (thanks!) I was solidly expecting sex to be available.

Anyhow, got her naked and some fingering turned into DATY, after which she seemed happy to perform a covered BJ. She got pretty turned on and after a while agreed to having sex for 500, "if I wouldn't stick it in all the way". Of course not, dear.

After a fairly passionate fuck ended I was empty and satisfied but still a bit confused about what this place now was really.

379 plus 500 is not exactly a steal for an MP fuck but wasn't unreasonable for the experience. But 379+200 for a naked HJ isn't really a very competitive proposition in Shanghai, and with such a hush-hush entrance I wonder what traffic they get?

No other customers (all room doors open) but I saw another nice looking girl on the way down. Wouldn't mind checking her out on the next visit.

P.

Steve 9696
05-23-18, 01:11
I hope to much haven't change since my last trip to SH. Did some regular research on this forum and decided to go for Jing An and some Manhattan-fun as a base-plan. Planning to stay at Paramount, should be guest friendly. Head off to blind pig for food and drinks, move on to Manhattan for chatting and partying with the girls and hopefully tip a nice lady 1000 to come back to Paramount for 1-2 hours. Still OK price for a ST? I have no issue with going out alone, used to it. Was also thinking about going to The Spot, is it still open? I got a feeling there was a lot of semi-pros there. Someone mentioned a street with girl-bars (semi-pros that ask you to buy drinks for some company in the bar) but I can not find the post, anyone knows where to find these kind of bars in Jing An? Or any other advice on how to meet English speaking semi-pros?Manhattan going asking price is 1500ST I believe. You can surely get it down a bit if you bother or with the right girl. Judys girls are a bit less hot IMO and 1000-1200 might be easier there. I just love Manhattan and don't go often and just pay asking price. I converted to LT in room with one girl last visit.

To the other guy asking about sauna etc this has been super cracked down and only shadier places left or maybe just HJ. I would just stick to Manhattan personally.

JginSH
05-23-18, 06:17
Gents,

The Chinese language form 52 Longfeng seems to have been "harmonized". Anyone have any insights as to an alternate URL?

ShanghaiLander
05-23-18, 08:38
Someone mentioned a street with girl-bars (semi-pros that ask you to buy drinks for some company in the bar) but I can not find the post, anyone knows where to find these kind of bars in Jing An?Huashan Lu, just across Yan'an Lu from Jing'An. There's a row of bars: Country road, Crossroads, New York, Hilda. I've never been but they are generally considered as perfect places to get drunk and ripped off.

Don't know about The Spot.

Sinofaguo
05-23-18, 09:24
To the other guy asking about sauna etc this has been super cracked down and only shadier places left or maybe just HJ. I would just stick to Manhattan personally.You do realise the average chinese customer will never go to places like Manhattan or Judy and yet there are many many of them still enjoying their hobby in Shanghai.

Several old saunas have reopened, most MPs as well and most of these MPs provide HJ and BJ. Several up to FS.

Lots of KTV are still up too.

The dry season which happened from August 15 to November is clearly over for some time now. Places just act low profile, many have had to close but many are still around.

Dex Xie
05-23-18, 13:18
You do realise the average chinese customer will never go to places like Manhattan or Judy and yet there are many many of them still enjoying their hobby in Shanghai.

Several old saunas have reopened, most MPs as well and most of these MPs provide HJ and BJ. Several up to FS.

Lots of KTV are still up too.

The dry season which happened from August 15 to November is clearly over for some time now. Places just act low profile, many have had to close but many are still around.I reckon most local guys use QQ girls. Tazman gave me a site (don't bother if you aren't Asian looking with passable Chinese skills) that not only freely advertises FS, but also has some rather explicit reviews. Those girls start at 400 per pop for FS. I tried a 400 p girl (super skinny low-mid 20s, 5'2/90 lbs / A / okay face / rushed service) and a 600 p girl (she was rather hot, mid-late 20's, 5'4/110 lbs / C / pretty face / less rushed service). Basically just 1 pop and done (2 pops if you pay extra).

But as I mentioned above, they usually operate out of residential zones. So if you aren't Asian looking, you will stand out look a sore thumb. All the directions they give you are pictures (of Chinese characters), probably to evade any potential Chinese gov crackdown or censorship. Much easier to parse characters than to parse pictures. So even a handy translator won't help. I somewhat read Chinese and I have difficulty finding the places. Fortunately, I am Chinese so I can wander and loiter around like an idiot without drawing attention.

The Guy
05-23-18, 18:55
You do realise the average chinese customer will never go to places like Manhattan or Judy and yet there are many many of them still enjoying their hobby in Shanghai.

Several old saunas have reopened, most MPs as well and most of these MPs provide HJ and BJ. Several up to FS.

Lots of KTV are still up too.

The dry season which happened from August 15 to November is clearly over for some time now. Places just act low profile, many have had to close but many are still around.Saunas have reopened, but prices still higher than pre-crackdown. Maybe with time and competition, they will come down.

Amnesia
05-24-18, 10:43
Several old saunas have reopened, most MPs as well and most of these MPs provide HJ and BJ. Several up to FS..Which one do you recommend? Could you post the name (and address maybe)?

Andersson25
05-24-18, 21:18
Huashan Lu, just across Yan'an Lu from Jing'An. There's a row of bars: Country road, Crossroads, New York, Hilda. I've never been but they are generally considered as perfect places to get drunk and ripped off.

Don't know about The Spot.OK, thanks. Will check them out. And, yeah I know its easy to get ripped off, but if you just don't spend a lot of money on the first random girl that will ask you for it, but rather eat some bar snacks, drink, watch some stupid TV, play pool and possibly meet a hot girl you like, and she speaks English, then its like. OK what the heck, I spend 200 on her and get some nice GFE in the bar and possibly she will text me afterwards and like to meet again. I have only payed for lady-drinks when I met someone I connected with (good looking, English speaking, sense of humor) and when going back to the same place again I noticed the other girls stay off my ass cause they know I already connected with. Pim, loom, or whatever her name is, if she is not in the bar they will text her and she will show up in 15 minutes If there is no one I like or if the girls are greedy boring bitches just playing with their phones I just finish the beer and move on to the next place.

The spot was more like a general place with a band and a lot of regular girls, no lady-drinks or shit. Still plenty of opportunities for bringing home some of the girls that were there. The Spot was on the way from Jing An temple station to Judys and Manhattans, just popped in since it looked fun.

Fugazi99
05-25-18, 09:06
I have numerous times been at "Shanghai Nights" and never been ripped off. Just say Fei a warm Hello.


OK, thanks. Will check them out. And, yeah I know its easy to get ripped off, but if you just don't spend a lot of money on the first random girl that will ask you for it, but rather eat some bar snacks, drink, watch some stupid TV, play pool and possibly meet a hot girl you like, and she speaks English, then its like. OK what the heck, I spend 200 on her and get some nice GFE in the bar and possibly she will text me afterwards and like to meet again. I have only payed for lady-drinks when I met someone I connected with (good looking, English speaking, sense of humor) and when going back to the same place again I noticed the other girls stay off my ass cause they know I already connected with. Pim, loom, or whatever her name is, if she is not in the bar they will text her and she will show up in 15 minutes If there is no one I like or if the girls are greedy boring bitches just playing with their phones I just finish the beer and move on to the next place.

The spot was more like a general place with a band and a lot of regular girls, no lady-drinks or shit. Still plenty of opportunities for bringing home some of the girls that were there. The Spot was on the way from Jing An temple station to Judys and Manhattans, just popped in since it looked fun.

Fugazi99
05-26-18, 11:22
Sorry, was a bit in ahurry yesterday, more detailed.

Can really recommend "ShangHai Nights" which is in the middle of all those bars. Have also been at "Cats" "New York" and "Old Manhattan" but this place was the one I felt treated the best. Also they have the most private backroom.

Just say Hello, to FEI, Stormy and Chun Chun from Mike from Germany. If you want to be save just tell them that you want be be warned once you reached 1000/2000/3000/4000 etc, that's what I always do.

Have fun, I will back there finally in August.


I have numerous times been at "Shanghai Nights" and never been ripped off. Just say Fei a warm Hello.

Tasss
05-27-18, 03:31
This report will be most helpful for people with fair Chinese skills although some English-only speakers may also be able to use of what's here. This past trip to SH is not really for mongering as SH isn't really a terribly good destination for that, but I had a few days and nights where I could head out and explore. I will not be talking about Manhattan and Judy's here. Overall the government is currently trying to suppress the P4P scene for Chinese locals. It's still there but just less overt and more expensive.

I would recommend downloading some Chinese apps on your smartphone before going. Maybe not surprisingly, a VPN is not needed since the options I'm talking about are all available to local Chinese.

1. WeChat. Most Chinese guys should already have this. This is for communicating with apartment girls and for those with weaker Chinese, like me, it has an English interface.

2. QQ. Don't get the international version, which hasn't been updated for several years. The regular QQ app doesn't have an English interface so it could be troublesome to navigate if your Chinese is basic or non-existent. Unfortunately most apartment girls will only have QQ and not WeChat.

3. Baidu Map. Google Maps won't work in China. Helps to navigate to apartment girls.

4. Didi Dache. Uber for China. Accepts international credit cards which is awesome. Most Chinese apps only takes Alipay / WeChat pay which you need a Chinese bank account for. Immensely helpful when a taxi could not be hailed and usually cheaper. Unlike taxis which increase their fares at night, Didi fares go down late night. I recommend you set this up in your home country because sometimes it'll take you to your CC's card verification page, which could do an SMS verification, which in turn you don't have access to your home phone number in China. Didi has an English interface. Not sure how good it is, but it's there. There's a competing app called Dida which seems to be cheaper, but I didn't use it.

You need to buy mobile data. Speaking from a US perspective, only a few phones here have TDD-LTE. If yours does, then you can go with China Mobile. Most unlocked AT&T and TMobile phones should be able to use China Unicom's 3 G (HSPA+) which is good enough for things like WeChat and QQ. The China Mobile plan I bought is just 50 RMB with 600 MB of data and some talk / text, which I didn't use much. The 600 MB plan deducts about 17 RMB from the 50 RMB account balance so you use the rest for talk / text and you can talk to an operator to get that added.

The Chinese (Shanghai specific) p4 p forums are easy to find for those with any fair amount of Chinese skills and I'm not going to list them here since the addresses will probably be edited out by mods. You'll need to use these to find the ads I'll talk about below.

The saunas have moved out of dedicated buildings and operating out of random hotels. They're also quite expensive, usually their prices start near US K-girl prices, somewhere around 1200 RMB and up to 2000 and sometimes 3000. I didn't see any value in these saunas personally as there are K-girls in my city and the K-girls are usually better looking and more friendly than the Chinese sauna girls. But for those who aren't in my situation, it's an option. Be aware that some saunas will advertise cheaper girls for 900 RMB or whatever, but when you get there, they aren't available or there's only 1 or 2. It's a bait and switch. Saunas ads are usually at the top of the Chinese P4P forums.

These Chinese forums will also have a section where apartment girls advertise. They also have reviews, but on some sites the contact info for the girl in the review is withheld unless you buy or earn tokens from that website. I'd rather just use the websites where the review is completely free or not rely on the reviews at all. I never used QQ / Wechat girls before until now because the relative value of the saunas have dropped. The apartment girl pics will almost always be heavily Photoshopped so don't be surprised you get a 6 instead of an 8. The QQ number or WeChat ID posted is usually monitored and answered by an operator. You don't get to the real girl's contact info until you arrive near the apartment and the operator gives you her number. I thought earlier the girls were answering QQ messages themselves, until my second apartment girl informed me otherwise. You can negotiate specific services with the girl herself like BBFS, which most girls won't do. Normal prices go from 400 to 600 per pop and there are higher priced ones as well. There are 2 pop and LT (baoye or BY) options which I didn't try.

My first appointment was priced at 600. The girl was from Guangxi, nice boobs but her face was maybe a 5 whereas her ad photos were maybe an 8. Good attitude but no chemistry between us, so she was pretty mechanical. I think that's one thing I miss from the sauna is that a lineup allows for you to make eye contact with the girl, and you can pick one that meshes well with you. Massage + BBBJ + CFS. The apartment didn't have a hot shower, and so I had to take a cold shower before the session.

Second appointment was priced at 400. Shandong girl with a slim figure and a 5.5 to 6 face. We had good chemistry going and she was horny as hell so I asked her for BBFS. She said she'd do it for 1000, which I couldn't go down further from. We both really enjoyed the session, and she said it felt great to do it BB after a long time going all covered. I came on her back as she requested. Her shower was working properly but her towels were wet and disgusting. So be aware that sometimes the apartment facilities are not going to be great. The girl also made me wait for 45 minutes. This is because the operator doesn't always know the girl's schedule that well, so I'd imagine it'd be awkward for a white guy to get into a similar situation. He has to stand outside the building for 30+ min with the local residents and security guys walking by all the time wondering why the hell he's here.

The BBS situation is currently not good. The QQ girls are on average a big upgrade from the BBS girls in terms of service, so while you save 200 RMB ($30 US), ask yourself if it's worth getting minimal services vs being able to take your time. Before what I could do is to peek in a BBS and make eye contact with the girl, then pick the more enthusiastic ones. Now the girls work in secret so you can't preview them as easily. I only tried one this trip. There used to be a well known set of BBS shops called Xinsandui (literally, new three team). I read how that place has adapted to the new environment in the Chinese forums, and I got curious, so I decided to check it out. My experience was exactly the same as the Chinese forum described. Once you go out of the Line 13 Fengzhuang subway station, you walk one block and there's a couple of old guys on motorcycles who spot you. They pretty much know what you're looking for. They come up to me and say "it's not here anymore" and I tell him "OK take me there". I was taken to a shop with locked glass doors. The place had zero lighting so as to make it look like it was closed. I was taken to a second place inside an apartment complex where 5 girls were sitting around looking bored. I picked one but the service was non-existent and couldn't even get a hard on. Price is 200 RMB and 10 RMB for the motorcycle guy. Personally BBSs were something I enjoyed in the past, but no longer, so I can't recommend it. But if you like cheap no frills sex, the Chinese forums will direct you to some places closer to where you live.

Another ISG member told me about dance halls in Suzhou, but no time to go to Suzhou this trip.

Other things you can try are WeChat people nearby, Momo and Tantan. I was hoping there may be P4P girls there, but it doesn't seem like there is. Good for flirting with a girl and non-sexual meetings if that's your thing.

ShanghaiLander
05-27-18, 13:09
...If you want to be save just tell them that you want be be warned once you reached 1000/2000/3000/4000 etc, that's what I always do.You make it look like a lot of fun. But what do you get for that kind of price? How long / how many drinks does it take to reach 1000 for instance?

The Guy
05-28-18, 05:54
As good as usual. Sunday night means a bit less competition from Chinese fat cats for the prettier / younger targets. Found a Laotian - 7. 5, 25 yr old, no childbirth marks. Who was new to the business (I "think" I believe it), second night at Manhattan and I was (again, allegedly) her first paying client. She offered the standard 1,200/2,000 pricing. Told her I'd just pop once so less than 2 hours. Settled for 800. In any event, he seemed pretty new to it and needed to be given instructions. Decent experience.

Fugazi99
05-28-18, 07:09
For me BBS or Saunas with going inside, choosing one, have interaction and leave 30 minutes later is no fun, you know all tastes are different.

I want to have party and fun, and on the other hand to talk to Chinese ladies who mostly speak perfect English and look very good. But to answer your question, arriving at 10 pm, leaving at 4 am, I expect a bill of 3000-4000 for drinks, kissing, touching and maybe a bit more.

You just need to be aware that nothing in life comes for free. And as I meet regular other guests from time to time, there seem to be folks that share my preference.


You make it look like a lot of fun. But what do you get for that kind of price? How long / how many drinks does it take to reach 1000 for instance?

Fugazi99
05-28-18, 07:17
And follow the well known basic rules: Never drink with more than one lady (maybe two, if you just received a bonus in the company at the same time, avoid any barfines by exchanging wechat contacts and meeting the girls in their free time, etc.


You make it look like a lot of fun. But what do you get for that kind of price? How long / how many drinks does it take to reach 1000 for instance?

Tommy Goat
05-28-18, 09:18
Has anyone tried a take-out from the dodgey looking bar opposite Judy's? It's never very full and so I am wary of going with any of the girls there. I've seen one or two stunners who I would definitely go with if the price was right, but my gut instinct tells me there's a scam going on somewhere there.

Any advice my fellow mongers (I am planning a visit next week, so will stick to Manhattan or Judy's unless you tell me otherwise!OK, I've done my own research on this bar now. It's directly opposite Judy's and has about 6-8 girls hanging around. Usually a couple near the door and the rest near the bar. It strikes me as odd that it's so quiet, but a welcome break from the constant jar ranging you get in Judy's or Manhattan. I went in for drink last Thursday and here's my report.

First, the warning should be in the prices: 60 RMB each (. Makes Manhattan look good value! Immediately you get surrounded by two or three girls eager to say Hello, chat and "spend time" with. I met three nice enough Chinese girls. Two were a 6, one (Amy) was a 7/8. If Amy had been in her own she'the have pulled and I would definitely have scored. She was cheeky, sexy and fun even if a bit too small and petite for my liking. Fortunately for my wallet though her friends wouldn't leave us alone and they managed to get me suspicious of the place.

Sign No. 2 that something wasn't right was when they kept asking me to go away from the bar and to sit with just them. I was asked to play pool, to sit and chat, to play cards, etc etc. Anything to get me "engaged" with them socially.

Sign No. 3 the bar was reluctant to take my money. I like the pay-as-you-go principle to stop me from being fleeced. They however were very quick to offer me a tab.

Lastly the girls keep asking me for drinks, perhaps not Amy who was intent on rubbing her body up and down the side of my arm, leg or whatever, but certainly the others seemed to have a "business approach" to our chats!

I got the hint and quickly made my excuses. It was late and I promised to meet them all at 8 pm the following day (. Not!

Verdict? A lucky escape, not worth going back (. Although I would have liked to have given Amy a proper try out!

In future, I'll just stick to the tried and tested places!

Midwestern
05-28-18, 14:32
Decided to be adventurous to see if I could luckily stumble upon a hidden gem. Rode a bicycle around for a couple of hours and found myself on Ya'an road, near Longemont hotel. Behind the hotel there are 2 spa / massage places. Tried the one next to Naan Cat Coffee. Chose the 90 minute oil massage for 388. It was one of the most sensuous massages I've ever gotten. First on the chest. Then when I'm on my back there was lots of ass and groin massage. Then turned over again for entirely balls and shaft massage. I was in heaven. But then suddenly she said she was finished, with no release! I asked about extras, and HJ, and she said there's none of that at their place and said goodbye. This is not the first time this has happened to me. Wtf?

TechAdv76
05-28-18, 16:53
This report will be most helpful for people with fair Chinese skills although some English-only speakers may also be able to use of what's here. This past trip to SH is not really for mongering as SH isn't really a terribly good destination for that, but I had a few days and nights where I could head out and explore. I will not be talking about Manhattan and Judy's here. Overall the government is currently trying to suppress the P4P scene for Chinese locals. It's still there but just less overt and more expensive.

I would recommend downloading some Chinese apps on your smartphone before going. Maybe not surprisingly, a VPN is not needed since the options I'm talking about are all available to local Chinese.

1. WeChat. Most Chinese guys should already have this. This is for communicating with apartment girls and for those with weaker Chinese, like me, it has an English interface.

2. QQ. Don't get the international version, which hasn't been updated for several years. The regular QQ app doesn't have an English interface so it could be troublesome to navigate if your Chinese is basic or non-existent. Unfortunately most apartment girls will only have QQ and not WeChat..Great info, thanks much! I am veteran Shanghai biz visitor from USA, but have not been there since crackdown. Hopefully things will loosen up and prices will decline since I always look forward to my relaxation in Shanghai after the long flight, crazy airport, traffic, etc. Sure miss SNG as it was a one stop shop for us short timers to get back up to speed on the latest and greatest offerings. My only advice is stick to tried and true, since my few forays off the beaten path have been near disastrous in all respects. Cheers!

Amnesia
05-28-18, 17:19
Any sauna / spa / massage in Shanghai with extra service (HJ, BJ, 69, FS)? Been hiking the last days and just need some relax time. Is China really that dead?

Marcelo26
05-28-18, 23:37
Any news about what happened to the owner of Sng?

Midwestern
05-29-18, 02:03
Any news about what happened to the owner of Sng?I heard from a reliable source that Steven's trial began during the first week of April. But I haven't heard anything since then.

Midwestern
05-29-18, 06:42
Near Crowne Plaza Shanghai. I previously reported this place as being legit. I was wrong. The massage menu is legit, thus my previous error. They have a separate spa menu with 2 items, one for 398 and one for 598. The latter is 4 hands massage. Anyway, private shower, pretty decent and sensuous massage, and good and slow he. They'll ask for a tip and was always happy with 200. Yeah, it's expensive. But it was all unrushed with long buildup. I never bothered to get any of the girls' number, as I haven't gotten a hot one yet.I haven't back to this place in a while, mostly because the last time I went I had to refuse 3 not-so-pretty girls before I eventually walked out. But today, my GF suddenly got her period, and I was horny, so I decided to go back to this place today. Saw most of the girls as they were getting ready to open at 11:30 am, and it looks like there was a lot of turnover, and for the better. Several attractive girls. Again, I got the 398 RMB spa massage, and it was sensuous with lots of attention to groin, ass, balls, and shaft, for most of the entire session. Then she laid next to me and cuddled while she finished me off. Tipped 200, and she was thrilled. My provider was tall and pretty, but I didn't ask for her number. I want to see who else is available there. I guess I like this place more than Spring. At Spring, they try to give you a legit massage before the he, and the legit massage usually sucks.

NightLife17
05-29-18, 10:49
Any news about what happened to the owner of Sng?Like Midwestern said; the trial started beginning of April; he and Judy's had three court sessions so far. It's now waiting for the judge to call them up and give the verdict. His defense is he only used the internet to spread illegal information (SNG) and did not manage WG's; that was all Judy. If the judge buys it, he can get away with 2 3 years. If not, considerably longer.

Amnesia
05-29-18, 14:23
Went back and got a different older provider. Again, very good HJ. These old providers may have been giving HJs for over 20 years now, so they really know what to do. This lady did something with my asshole with her finger and I came hard and suddenly, without warning. Probably the most I came in years. She didn't ask for a tip. So HJs are included in the 258 lingham relief massage.Complete waste of money this place. They leave the door open and insist you wear those massage panties. I even think the receptionist keeps checking every 15 minutes that nothing inappropriate happens (I could hear her steps). No handjob or whatsoever. Even the massage is only mediocre at best. And be prepared that your massage room with the door wide open is directly connected to the receptionist area.

I actually complained why there wasn't a handjob. The receptionist (who speaks English) apologized and explained they cannot do it because of the government. To be fair, she told me before the massage that they would have to leave the door open. I guess I should have left then. Didn't want to give a discount so. So I paid 288 RMB for 90 minutes mediocre oil massage.

Avoid this place!

Idlediode
05-30-18, 20:10
I am new here was visiting Shanghai & was looking to have some Fun, I have been reading the forum for a week now lot of useful info to ponder upon. During my last visit in August 17 I was living at Nanjing Street, Howard Johnson Plaza & Enjoyed some Massages & HJ in Spa's on the street behind. 198 RMB + 100 for HJ That was my First Experience. I got smarter & managed to get a Foot Massage at 60 RMB + HJ for additional 50 RMB enjoyed excellent Oil massage 3rd Day at 198 + HJ + BJ for 150 extra.

Wondering what's the scene now? Looking for suggestions for FS ideally not at MPs. I have managed to get a few direct contacts of Girls from nightlife & spoken to them asking 1200 -1500 for 1 HR ST in my hotel room.

1. Is it safe to call them over to your current Hotel.

2. Can you guys share some more contacts for FS & Good Erotic massages with B2B & Shower + HJ?

I can share my contacts for Mumbai & Shanghai if anyone is interested but I haven't tried services in SH.

Thank you.

Dex Xie
05-31-18, 02:51
Late report.

Went to Judy's with Taz, the environment is not really my thing. Checked out with a Viet girl named Tina for 2 K LT. Very GFE, which was quite nice. That said, if anyone PM's me and wants to go to Judy's Manhattan's, I'd still be up for it.

Going to try some more QQ girls, as there are tons in XuJiaHui area. Prices are usually 400-600/ p, which doesn't seem bad.

I do agree with the consensus that Saunas prices are too high. They've reached the prices of Judy/Manhattan's for ST. They have a low entry price (say 898), but realistically, only a few girls are of that price, and the upsell to higher quality girls is there. If anyone knows a sauna with a fixed price, PM me. If SH prices continue their upward trajectory, then I wouldn't be surprised if we see an exodus similar to Koreans to AC.

IMO, girls charging >1500 ST seems questionable. You literally get better prices in the US (bay area) and better service.

Keric333
05-31-18, 05:33
Sorry, was a bit in ahurry yesterday, more detailed.

Can really recommend "ShangHai Nights" which is in the middle of all those bars. Have also been at "Cats" "New York" and "Old Manhattan" but this place was the one I felt treated the best. Also they have the most private backroom.

Just say Hello, to FEI, Stormy and Chun Chun from Mike from Germany. If you want to be save just tell them that you want be be warned once you reached 1000/2000/3000/4000 etc, that's what I always do.

Have fun, I will back there finally in August.Wait. What? Asked to be warned once you've reached 1000/2000/3000? If that's not a sign of a rip-off bar, then I don't know what is. Basically, what's been said is that a tab could run up without the patron having any knowledge of it.

JginSH
05-31-18, 08:28
Late report.

Went to Judy's with Taz, the environment is not really my thing. Checked out with a Viet girl named Tina for 2 K LT. Very GFE, which was quite nice. That said, if anyone PM's me and wants to go to Judy's Manhattan's, I'd still be up for it.

Going to try some more QQ girls, as there are tons in XuJiaHui area. Prices are usually 400-600/ p, which doesn't seem bad..P2P, mongering, whatever nomenclature you wish to use is no different than the rest of the Chinese economy; dumbbell shaped w / limited "value" in either of the major concentrations. High end of the market; rich local guys don't really pay for GFE, they pay for exclusivity. Hence, the utility they get from a CNY 6,000 shag or a CNY 666,6666 watch is the exclusivity as opposed to the enjoyment or durability of the purchase. Or more to the point, most those guys don't get enjoyment from GFE, they get enjoyment knowing they are having something most people can't afford. The low end of the market is much the same, poor guys paying for a quick turn. They aren't getting GFE either, they just want something that the middle class guy they aspire to be experiences every night. The service provider knows this and can afford to tell them to "hurry up and finish".

The expat / foreigner P2P existed for a longtime in a bubble outside the realities of the economy. It was leveraged by service providers who were agile and lucky enough to develop some basic language skills and mental jujitsu outside their ingrained skill-sets. Market forces both economic and regulatory have made providing P2P for the foreign community more valuable / scarce. Hence I'd advise everyone to stop throwing CNY 400-600 on pushy HJ experiences, and QQ girls who make their money on servicing mass amounts of the mass market.

Get use to paying 1,500 for ST at Manhattan and 2,000 from the independents online. Rain, Nightlifeonline, Massagerepub etc. But more to the point, treat the girls well who make you feel like they want to be there, try to limit the haggling, and things might not return to 2009 normal, but we'll make 2018 a lot more liveable.

Heyid
05-31-18, 16:08
Hello all,

New to this forum. Read through a dozen or so pages, everything in here has been super helpful so far. I'm a mid-twenties Asian American visiting Shanghai for roughly two weeks (have just about a week left of my trip). Used to mongering with escorts in DC / NYC, so brand new to the scene in Shanghai.

Touched down last Friday night, slept in and got the itch Saturday. I hadn't done much research prior to arrival, so I decided on going for an escort, albeit with less research than I usually do in the US. Found Wenli quickly on the other site, made contact through Wechat from the info on her website and arranged for an incall, which was in a somewhat hidden location a good walk from the Jing'an Metro stop. Clearly wears makeup, but her face still looks pretty good and body is great. I'm glad that she speaks English, because while I can get by with my Chinese, it obviously wasn't good enough to hold a decent conversation about anything with her. Anyways, got undressed, laid stomach-down on the bed, and she began with some light and sensual caresses with her tongue and fingers all along the back (not sure what that's called). Then told me to flip over and definitely gave one of the better BJs I've had. She introduced me to a cold vs. Hot BJ with some kind of warming / cooling liquid in her mouth. Pretty cool. During this time she did some light kissing, not as much tongue as with most escorts in the States that I'm used to. After a good bit, I couldn't take it any longer and asked for the cover, took her in mish and finished there after a couple of minutes. Gave me a brief massage and told me some jokes in English, which I thought was a nice touch to end the session. I learned then that her hourly rates go by pops (1 pop = 1 hour, 2 pops = 2 hours, etc.) which is new to me. Luckily I'm a one-pop kind of guy LOL. Ended up staying about 80 or so minutes for 1300 RMB. Great session, just what I needed after a long flight and fighting jetlag.

Haven't been able to do too much research since I've been dog-tired seeing the sights, visiting relatives, and adjusting to Chinese air. I know from earlier reports that the sauna scene has been cut down pretty hard in the past year. It's something I really want to do, especially since I can't do outcall or takeout from Manhattan's / Judy's (read somewhere about short stay hotels which could be an option). Found the WeChat info for a Yao Yao at Tang Palace (given 1400/1800/2100/2400) and a Jeff at a Spring or Lotus Spa (not too sure, given 1790/2098/2398). In my brief research couldn't find much info on these, prices seem pretty steep, guess I'll YOLO when I have some alone time Monday afternoon. May also try a MP too at some point if I find one and have time for it, though honestly I'm not sure how to tell if one will give me what I want / what to order on the menu / etc. My trip to SH has been great so far and is definitely going to get more adventurous.

Midwestern
06-01-18, 01:17
Hello all,

New to this forum. Read through a dozen or so pages, everything in here has been super helpful so far. I'm a mid-twenties Asian American visiting Shanghai for roughly two weeks (have just about a week left of my trip). Used to mongering with escorts in DC / NYC, so brand new to the scene in Shanghai.

Touched down last Friday night, slept in and got the itch Saturday. I hadn't done much research prior to arrival, so I decided on going for an escort, albeit with less research than I usually do in the US. Found Wenli quickly on the other site, made contact through Wechat from the info on her website and arranged for an incall, which was in a somewhat hidden location a good walk from the Jing'an Metro stop. Clearly wears makeup, but her face still looks pretty good and body is great. I'm glad that she speaks English, because while I can get by with my Chinese, it obviously wasn't good enough to hold a decent conversation about anything with her. Anyways, got undressed, laid stomach-down on the bed, and she began with some light and sensual caresses with her tongue and fingers all along the back (not sure what that's called). Then told me to flip over and definitely gave one of the better BJs I've had. She introduced me to a cold vs. Hot BJ with some kind of warming / cooling liquid in her mouth. Pretty cool. During this time she did some light kissing, not as much tongue as with most escorts in the States that I'm used to. After a good bit, I couldn't take it any longer and asked for the cover, took her in mish and finished there after a couple of minutes. Gave me a brief massage and told me some jokes in English, which I thought was a nice touch to end the session. I learned then that her hourly rates go by pops (1 pop = 1 hour, 2 pops = 2 hours, etc.) which is new to me. Luckily I'm a one-pop kind of guy LOL. Ended up staying about 80 or so minutes for 1300 RMB. Great session, just what I needed after a long flight and fighting jetlag.

Haven't been able to do too much research since I've been dog-tired seeing the sights, visiting relatives, and adjusting to Chinese air. I know from earlier reports that the sauna scene has been cut down pretty hard in the past year. It's something I really want to do, especially since I can't do outcall or takeout from Manhattan's / Judy's (read somewhere about short stay hotels which could be an option). Found the WeChat info for a Yao Yao at Tang Palace (given 1400/1800/2100/2400) and a Jeff at a Spring or Lotus Spa (not too sure, given 1790/2098/2398). In my brief research couldn't find much info on these, prices seem pretty steep, guess I'll YOLO when I have some alone time Monday afternoon. May also try a MP too at some point if I find one and have time for it, though honestly I'm not sure how to tell if one will give me what I want / what to order on the menu / etc. My trip to SH has been great so far and is definitely going to get more adventurous.Hujing can book a short time hotel for you. It is 100 rmb for 4 hours. If you're not Chinese, you won't be allowed to book a short time hotel.

Vermonter
06-01-18, 03:23
First post. Thanks to all who have posted before for your information and guidance. Very helpful.

Based on info from this site I visited Spring Xianxia Lu location. My first occasion went very similar to another report. Started with very good veggie oil massage on back, transitioned to little brother, ass, and balls teasing from behind. She then told me she would get nude. I asked if tip was needed and she said no so I said ok, and she stripped and showered. This is first time I've been in MP where girl stripped completely. The girl was cute, a bit heavier than Chinese beauty standard but fine for me. Plus her ass was great, which came into play next. So I turn over and she straddles me, oils my little brother, and then places him between her ass cheeks and goes for nice long strokes that really got me going. She then did some nice GFE body kissing, continued with HJ and I sucked her nipples. After finishing, showered, and paid 398 RMB at the desk (no tip). Overall was about 70 min including really nice massage and good he. The ass cheek move was memorable.

Second visit (one week later). My plan was to see the same girl and see if I might be able to get some extra play such as BJ / DATY. No expectations, but I was planning to ask. The same girl wasn't working yet, though, so I said I would take anyone available. This time was a significantly different experience. She seemed tired (and actually later during the session complained about being tired). She asked me to get on the table face up, so I thought maybe she prefers to do massage after. I asked and she said she could do my back but she really didn't seem enthusiastic about it so I thought maybe focus on the he and get more mileage. So she did half assed massage of my head and legs, then stepped and showered, and straddled me. Again the little brother in ass cheek move. Seems this might be the only standard? She wouldn't let me play with her tits which was frustrating given that they were hanging right there in front of me, but I never push if they say they don't want (she actually said the shop doesn't allow which is BS, but I got the point). I wasn't that into it as I was disappointed the service level was lower than the first girl. This girls ass was less "plump" so the ass move wasn't quite as enjoyable, but I finished anyway in that position all over her ass. Showered, paid at desk (again 398, no tip). This all took maybe 45 min, so less value for money.

I will probably go again at least once to try the first girl again and maybe one more girl just for comparison. Otherwise I like to try new places just because I don't know what to expect which increases the excitement level (and sometimes the frustration).

One more thing on a separate note. By far the best experience and value for your money for great GFE and enthusiastic sex in Shanghai is Maria from SNG (now no). She is a little older than the other independents in Shanghai, but she looks younger while putting all of her experiences to work to make you feel top of the world. If I didn't have my wife looking at my bank balance everyday, I would be spending all my money on her vs. MPs like Spring. If you see Maria, treat her well. She is absolutely amazing.

Vermonter
06-01-18, 03:41
Hujing can book a short time hotel for you. It is 100 rmb for 4 hours. If you're not Chinese, you won't be allowed to book a short time hotel.Beverly (previously of SNG) can also book ST hotel (at least for a 2 hour session). Beverly provides wider range of services than most in SH, very enthusiastically. She seemed disappointed when I finished on her back instead of in her mouth.

Dex Xie
06-01-18, 03:50
P2P, mongering, whatever nomenclature you wish to use is no different than the rest of the Chinese economy; dumbbell shaped w / limited "value" in either of the major concentrations. High end of the market; rich local guys don't really pay for GFE, they pay for exclusivity. Hence, the utility they get from a CNY 6,000 shag or a CNY 666,6666 watch is the exclusivity as opposed to the enjoyment or durability of the purchase. Or more to the point, most those guys don't get enjoyment from GFE, they get enjoyment knowing they are having something most people can't afford. The low end of the market is much the same, poor guys paying for a quick turn. They aren't getting GFE either, they just want something that the middle class guy they aspire to be experiences every night. The service provider knows this and can afford to tell them to "hurry up and finish".

The expat / foreigner P2P existed for a longtime in a bubble outside the realities of the economy. It was leveraged by service providers who were agile and lucky enough to develop some basic language skills and mental jujitsu outside their ingrained skill-sets. Market forces both economic and regulatory have made providing P2P for the foreign community more valuable / scarce. Hence I'd advise everyone to stop throwing CNY 400-600 on pushy HJ experiences, and QQ girls who make their money on servicing mass amounts of the mass market.

Get use to paying 1,500 for ST at Manhattan and 2,000 from the independents online. Rain, Nightlifeonline, Massagerepub etc. But more to the point, treat the girls well who make you feel like they want to be there, try to limit the haggling, and things might not return to 2009 normal, but we'll make 2018 a lot more liveable.Please don't talk shit about QQ girls, as I doubt you've seen one. Just like in any other place in the world, some providers offer rushed and poor service. Others do not. As for what type of traffic they see, you're speculating out of your ass. Whenever I make an appointment for a QQ girl (500/600 p), I've never had to wait. Which implies that they are not servicing johns back to back. The reason you are paying 1500ST and going on English language sites is because you don't know Chinese and do not readily have access to the local talent pool. Thus you are paying a premium. Do not think for one second you are getting 'better' service or 'better looking' girls because you are paying "up the dumbbell curve" or some crap.

Which brings me to point #2. Why the fuck, if you are from the US, would you go to Shanghai to monger ST if you can get better value at home? I've been to Judy's and Manhattan. Assuming 1500ST (240 USD) price, the average girl there is about as good looking as an average Bay Area k-girl (220 USD). In my home market, you can get decent looking white girls starting around 250 USD / Hour. 300 USD and you can get good looking ones with good service. 400 USD and you can get the Russian models that tour with excellent service.

Steps on the soapbox.

Now lets talk about price increases. Do you honestly think prices will continue to rise 10-20% YoY? No, because at some point you hit economic impediments. Probably very hard for Chinese locals to swallow in general, but you cannot escape the economic gravity of job / wage growth. At some point, global firms will be wondering why they can't just do most of the hiring in their home countries (for tech firms, its a no brainer nowadays; my company is paying for me to grab knowledge from the Chinese SW Engineers to bring back to the US. Something that would've been ridiculed just 5 years ago). The real bad news will come when Chinese companies start figuring out how to hire in cheaper geos (without pissing off the central gov). Currently, China is still on a debt fueled growth binge. They tried taking the brakes off in 2 H 2015, but that proved disastrous in terms of economic KPI's, so they've been stepping on the gas since 2 H 2016. Currently at 300+% debt: GDP ratio and counting.

Steps off.

Tyb60
06-01-18, 03:55
Hello all,

New to this forum. Read through a dozen or so pages, everything in here has been super helpful so far. I'm a mid-twenties Asian American visiting Shanghai for roughly two weeks (have just about a week left of my trip). Used to mongering with escorts in DC / NYC, so brand new to the scene in Shanghai.

Touched down last Friday night, slept in and got the itch Saturday. I hadn't done much research prior to arrival, so I decided on going for an escort, albeit with less research than I usually do in the US. Found Wenli quickly on the other site, made contact through Wechat from the info on her website and arranged for an incall, which was in a somewhat hidden location a good walk from the Jing'an Metro stop. Clearly wears makeup, but her face still looks pretty good and body is great. I'm glad that she speaks English, because while I can get by with my Chinese, it obviously wasn't good enough to hold a decent conversation about anything with her. Anyways, got undressed, laid stomach-down on the bed, and she began with some light and sensual caresses with her tongue and fingers all along the back (not sure what that's called). Then told me to flip over and definitely gave one of the better BJs I've had. She introduced me to a cold vs. Hot BJ with some kind of warming / cooling liquid in her mouth. Pretty cool. During this time she did some light kissing, not as much tongue as with most escorts in the States that I'm used to..FWIW Rain also offers incall with a large selection of girls.

Do report back if you give the Saunas a go!

ShanghaiWanda
06-01-18, 17:07
Next time, use the exit on the other side of the hotel, towards the Family Mart. Opposite the cheap restaurant in the covered passageway. No problem, but bit pricey. They will also deliver to your room.


Decided to be adventurous to see if I could luckily stumble upon a hidden gem. Rode a bicycle around for a couple of hours and found myself on Ya'an road, near Longemont hotel. Behind the hotel there are 2 spa / massage places. Tried the one next to Naan Cat Coffee. Chose the 90 minute oil massage for 388. It was one of the most sensuous massages I've ever gotten. First on the chest. Then when I'm on my back there was lots of ass and groin massage. Then turned over again for entirely balls and shaft massage. I was in heaven. But then suddenly she said she was finished, with no release! I asked about extras, and HJ, and she said there's none of that at their place and said goodbye. This is not the first time this has happened to me. Wtf?

The Guy
06-01-18, 21:50
Please don't talk shit about QQ girls, as I doubt you've seen one. Just like in any other place in the world, some providers offer rushed and poor service. Others do not. As for what type of traffic they see, you're speculating out of your ass. Whenever I make an appointment for a QQ girl (500/600 p), I've never had to wait. Which implies that they are not servicing johns back to back. The reason you are paying 1500ST and going on English language sites is because you don't know Chinese and do not readily have access to the local talent pool. Thus you are paying a premium. Do not think for one second you are getting 'better' service or 'better looking' girls because you are paying "up the dumbbell curve" or some crap.

Which brings me to point #2. Why the fuck, if you are from the US, would you go to Shanghai to monger ST if you can get better value at home? I've been to Judy's and Manhattan. Assuming 1500ST (240 USD) price, the average girl there is about as good looking as an average Bay Area k-girl (220 USD). In my home market, you can get decent looking white girls starting around 250 USD / Hour. 300 USD and you can get good looking ones with good service. 400 USD and you can get the Russian models that tour with excellent service.

Steps on the soapbox.

Now lets talk about price increases. Do you honestly think prices will continue to rise 10-20% YoY? No, because at some point you hit economic impediments. Probably very hard for Chinese locals to swallow in general, but you cannot escape the economic gravity of job / wage growth. At some point, global firms will be wondering why they can't just do most of the hiring in their home countries (for tech firms, its a no brainer nowadays; my company is paying for me to grab knowledge from the Chinese SW Engineers to bring back to the US. Something that would've been ridiculed just 5 years ago). The real bad news will come when Chinese companies start figuring out how to hire in cheaper geos (without pissing off the central gov). Currently, China is still on a debt fueled growth binge. They tried taking the brakes off in 2 H 2015, but that proved disastrous in terms of economic KPI's, so they've been stepping on the gas since 2 H 2016. Currently at 300+% debt: GDP ratio and counting.

Steps off.Makes sense to me that a hot girl in this market won't do 500.

If you've got game, you might shag a hot girl by dating, but if she turns to prostitution she will figure out how to get more. Foreign mongers are too few to distort the market. Right now, law enforcement and occasional crackdowns are distorting the market.

Midwestern
06-02-18, 01:31
Next time, use the exit on the other side of the hotel, towards the Family Mart. Opposite the cheap restaurant in the covered passageway. No problem, but bit pricey. They will also deliver to your room.Thanks SW. What extras are available?

As mentioned recently, girls that will book short time hotels for the session include Beverly, Hujing, Maria, and also Wenli. You can tell them where you are staying and they will find a short time hotel nearby. If you are nice to them during the first session then all of them will cut their price for subsequent sessions if you ask.

ShanghaiWanda
06-02-18, 02:58
After the stormy weather, in the shop seems to go not further than BJ. Hotel delivery to the Longmont comes down to negotiations and chemistry I think.


Thanks SW. What extras are available?.

Dex Xie
06-02-18, 12:47
Makes sense to me that a hot girl in this market won't do 500.

If you've got game, you might shag a hot girl by dating, but if she turns to prostitution she will figure out how to get more. Foreign mongers are too few to distort the market. Right now, law enforcement and occasional crackdowns are distorting the market.Why won't they do 500? There are literally pages of QQ girls (at least 60 in Xuhui area alone between two sites, as I live there and don't care about other areas) that are <500 for FS 1 shot.

Here's a 600 p girl that I've seen (redo the link yourself). Photos are obviously brushed up, but she's about 80% of the pics and IMO, and definitely hot enough for Judy's / Manhattan's. Amusingly enough, there was at least one guy who was complaining that her price was too high in the thread.

Http aishxx. Biz / thread-460844-1-1. Html.

Speaking of which, still no takers for Judy / Manhattan? First basic drink is on me.

Heyid
06-02-18, 15:52
Hello all,Haven't been able to do too much research since I've been dog-tired seeing the sights, visiting relatives, and adjusting to Chinese air. I know from earlier reports that the sauna scene has been cut down pretty hard in the past year. It's something I really want to do, especially since I can't do outcall or takeout from Manhattan's / Judy's (read somewhere about short stay hotels which could be an option). Found the WeChat info for a Yao Yao at Tang Palace (given 1400/1800/2100/2400) and a Jeff at a Spring or Lotus Spa (not too sure, given 1790/2098/2398). In my brief research couldn't find much info on these, prices seem pretty steep, guess I'll YOLO when I have some alone time Monday afternoon.\Thanks for the suggestions regarding short-term hotels.

Ended up going to a sauna earlier than planned. I found a good chunk of free time earlier this afternoon and hit up both of the WeChat contacts. Yao Yao at Tang Palace responded first so I went there. Got off at the Xingzhong Metro #9 stop and took a brief cab ride along Caobaolu to the place, which is above a Pizza Hut. Yao Yao met me outside and took me up, walked through the back of a restaurant (seemed a little sketch) and a couple of turns later ended up in what I assume is a fishbowl room. Did walk past a locker room and shower area but wasn't offered them. About 20 girls showed up for the lineup, only 1 was normal grade (1400), 7 were be (1800), and 5-6 each of the higher grades. Went with No. 815, who was be grade and had the young, petite look I wanted and was pretty much the only girl that looked my way. Many seemed unenthusiastic, especially among the higher priced ones. Face 7-8 (had some makeup but otherwise looked like someone out of a Chinese advert for tea or something), body 8 (B cup, 150 cm, not much of a backside but everything was just for my taste). Went up to a room with bed and shower, got undressed, showered, and laid down on the bed for a tongue bath (which is a first and felt awesome) and rimming. Didn't seem to excited about touching, she would occasionally reposition herself away from my hands. Flipped over and the tongue bath slowly escalated into a BJ. I then donned cover and finished in mish. Decided to just lay there for 15 minutes with her in my arms. After the fuck she was a lot more comfortable with touching, asked several times if I wanted to go again (seemed disappointed when I wanted to just cuddle). Another shower, got dressed, and went downstairs to settle with the manager. Only downside was that we didn't kiss. For 1800 RMB I'd say this experience is more of a novelty for me. Similar / slightly more expensive pricing to Kgirls back in the states, who follow a similar script but Kgirls are definitely much more GFE with their tongue-down-your-throat kissing. I guess the advantage here is the lineup and seeing if girls make eye contact with you for potential interest, though with Kgirls I've never had one that didn't seem interested in me LOL. I guess I came a year too late or something when prices were cheaper.

Still here for another 4 or 5 days but my schedule seems to be pretty packed, so chances of mongering again are not too high. If I do go again, I'm pretty evenly split among escorts, another sauna trip, or something new. Already have a date arranged in NYC to help with the jetlag after getting back into the US. Hope these small contributions might help other members in this forum.

SamCan
06-02-18, 21:45
Here's a 600 p girl that I've seen (redo the link yourself). Photos are obviously brushed up, but she's about 80% of the pics and IMO, and definitely hot enough for Judy's / Manhattan's. Amusingly enough, there was at least one guy who was complaining that her price was too high in the thread.

Http aishxx. Biz / thread-460844-1-1. Html.

Speaking of which, still no takers for Judy / Manhattan? First basic drink is on me.I'd pay 1000 for that any day. At 600, I'd try to 2 shots for 1200.

Please help me when I come back to shanghai. We'll be best friends. Haha.

SAM.

The Guy
06-03-18, 01:31
Why won't they do 500? There are literally pages of QQ girls (at least 60 in Xuhui area alone between two sites, as I live there and don't care about other areas) that are <500 for FS 1 shot.

Here's a 600 p girl that I've seen (redo the link yourself). Photos are obviously brushed up, but she's about 80% of the pics and IMO, and definitely hot enough for Judy's / Manhattan's. Amusingly enough, there was at least one guy who was complaining that her price was too high in the thread.

Http aishxx. Biz / thread-460844-1-1. Html.

Speaking of which, still no takers for Judy / Manhattan? First basic drink is on me.I'd like to see her without the doctored photos (I also saw some reference to that in comments), but ok man, convinced me, I'll try qq.

Karl Rose
06-03-18, 03:04
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Rose is by far the best in Shanghai Panorama. With her I understood totally what GFE experience means. She is sincere and she enjoys providing the best service she can. I have been in Sh for 5 years now and Rose is, by far the best. Not only her BJ is the best, her French kissing, her attitude, she will make you feel special. You can contact her [Email address deleted by Admin]. She is real, real pleasure, real luxury. Not cheap. Best quality.

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Midwestern
06-03-18, 06:05
Why won't they do 500? There are literally pages of QQ girls (at least 60 in Xuhui area alone between two sites, as I live there and don't care about other areas) that are <500 for FS 1 shot.

Here's a 600 p girl that I've seen (redo the link yourself). Photos are obviously brushed up, but she's about 80% of the pics and IMO, and definitely hot enough for Judy's / Manhattan's. Amusingly enough, there was at least one guy who was complaining that her price was too high in the thread.

Http aishxx. Biz / thread-460844-1-1. Html.

Speaking of which, still no takers for Judy / Manhattan? First basic drink is on me.The website and these QQ girls look impressive. A bit similar to 141 websites and girls in HK, but those are also in English. I guess there will always be a huge segment of the China mongering scene that'll be unavailable to non-Chinese speakers and readers. From reading the forum lately, I cannot believe we non-Chinese are still boffing the same girls (Beverly, Hujing, Maria, etc.) after all these years. For a while, I was using Rain (but she is psycho) and SNG, but after boffing most of those girls, maybe I need to figure out how to tap into the QQ talent. Is it possible for me? Can anyone provide a beginners guide for non-Chinese? And besides, since the crackdown and Steven's and Judy's arrests, I'm a bit nervous to use the new NLO. And because saunas aren't working in the open and since the FS MPs are all gone now, that just leaves Manhattan's and Judy's, and I can't to takeout nor do I want to stay out that late.

ShanghaiMagic
06-03-18, 22:00
I've been going to Shanghai off and on for the past 8 years. The Mongering scene in Shanghai has already changed a lot in that short time span (mostly downhill).

Eight years back, the girls in Manhattan were a healthy mix of nationalities, with many girls from the PI. Up until just last year, there was a great sauna scene in ShanghI, although prices were going up 10% every year. Up to just last year, happy ending MPs were plentiful and everywhere. Going 5 years back there were also many BBS. About two years ago there was even a vibrant dancehall scene in Shanghai.

But some people say that the scene in Shanghsi was even better 10+ and 20+ years ago. If any of readers lived through that, it would be great in you could send a detailed history of that era. Would be a very interesting read. Anyone up to the challenge?Part I:

I've been dealing with Shanghai and the "scene" for over 20 years. I first went to Shanghai in 1998 and used to hang out with a lot of guys who have since come and gone in the original location of the current incarnation of Manhattan which was located on Julu Lu. It used to be a very, very small dive bar along with a bunch of other dive bars on Julu that was managed by a young Lucy, a chick named Angel and of course a bunch of Chinese hookers. During those days I wasn't very interested in picking up hookers in any of those bars because cheap or free fine pieces of ass could be found in almost anyplace around Shanghai including the original Paulaner, Bat's Bar in Pudong and old disco called MGM and a few other places like Judy's on Maoming, DKD etc. Those were the wild and crazy days of Shanghai where the girls were cheap and sometimes just wanted to hookup with a foreigner. You could get a girl to go home with you on Friday, pay her and then she'd stay the rest of the weekend, hang out and fuck without asking for anything more. It was a fun time and most expats were pretty friendly and easy to get along with. Now, the bars are full of pretentious people from all walks of life including expats and Chinese. I've known Lucy on a personal basis for over 20 years as well and she has always treated me very well. She knows her stuff. Manhattan moved to Maoming a few short years after I arrived in Shanghai and the bar was still a hopping good place. That was when the bar's girls started to change and went through many changes and nationalities. It was also located across the street from DKD, Judy's and the original Blue Frog. First came the Chinese, mostly non-local provincial types but good looking and a lot of fun, next came the Mongolians who were very good looking and super fun but after getting drunk they'd start fist fights and brawls amongst themselves and go as far as ripping each other's clothes off while Lucy and her team were trying to pull them apart. Next the Filipinos moved in, some of the girls you still see in the bar are from that era, yes don't let the makeup fool you. Along with the Fils came the Russians. A bit more friendly back then and not yet spoiled by the Chinese because they didn't have money or an ounce of class back then. After that, the Thais started moving in and were in competition with the Fils. At the time is was probably 50/50 in terms of pussy balance. That scene lasted quite a while until the government decided to turn a great bar street into a boring park and theater. Manhattan and Judy's then moved over to. (more to come in Part II).

Tyb60
06-03-18, 23:00
Thanks for the suggestions regarding short-term hotels.

Ended up going to a sauna earlier than planned. I found a good chunk of free time earlier this afternoon and hit up both of the WeChat contacts. Yao Yao at Tang Palace responded first so I went there. Got off at the Xingzhong Metro #9 stop and took a brief cab ride along Caobaolu to the place, which is above a Pizza Hut. Yao Yao met me outside and took me up, walked through the back of a restaurant (seemed a little sketch) and a couple of turns later ended up in what I assume is a fishbowl room. Did walk past a locker room and shower area but wasn't offered them. About 20 girls showed up for the lineup, only 1 was normal grade (1400), 7 were be (1800), and 5-6 each of the higher grades. Went with No. 815, who was be grade and had the young, petite look I wanted and was pretty much the only girl that looked my way. Many seemed unenthusiastic, especially among the higher priced ones. Face 7-8 (had some makeup but otherwise looked like someone out of a Chinese advert for tea or something), body 8 (B cup, 150 cm, not much of a backside but everything was just for my taste). Went up to a room with bed and shower, got undressed, showered, and laid down on the bed for a tongue bath (which is a first and felt awesome) and rimming. Didn't seem to excited about touching, she would occasionally reposition herself away from my hands. Flipped over and the tongue bath slowly escalated into a BJ. I then donned cover and finished in mish. Decided to just lay there for 15 minutes with her in my arms. After the fuck she was a lot more comfortable with touching, asked several times if I wanted to go again (seemed disappointed when I wanted to just cuddle). Another shower, got dressed, and went downstairs to settle with the manager. Only downside was that we didn't kiss. For 1800 RMB I'd say this experience is more of a novelty for me. Similar / slightly more expensive pricing to Kgirls back in the states, who follow a similar script but Kgirls are definitely much more GFE with their tongue-down-your-throat kissing. I guess the advantage here is the lineup and seeing if girls make eye contact with you for potential interest, though with Kgirls I've never had one that didn't seem interested in me LOL. I guess I came a year too late or something when prices were cheaper.

Still here for another 4 or 5 days but my schedule seems to be pretty packed, so chances of mongering again are not too high. If I do go again, I'm pretty evenly split among escorts, another sauna trip, or something new. Already have a date arranged in NYC to help with the jetlag after getting back into the US. Hope these small contributions might help other members in this forum.Nice, thanks for the intel.

Kusadumi
06-03-18, 23:13
Hi, haven't posted in long time even got my rank demoted.

Anyway, anyone have recommendations on white / black women available in Shanghai?

Been out of the p4 p game for a bit and completely out of touch.

Thanks.

Magik
06-04-18, 10:12
In Shanghai for a few weeks and I've been doing a lot of walking around hitting spas during the day. This afternoon I did a session at G Spa, which is on Xinzha Road just West of Xinchang Road on the North side of the street. Be aware that they have male masseuses working here too. Upon entering I was greeted by some guys who asked me to sit down, showed me a picture of oiled Chinese guys on his phone and asked "boys"? I replied "girls"! He quoted me 300 and led me upstairs. He brought out two girls, both good looking, and both looking early 20's. I selected #2, who was a hot looking blonde Chinese. She would tell me later that she was only half Chinese and was also half Caucasian. I think she said he father was Chinese and he mother Russian. I showered and then she gave a very therapeutic, in no way sensual massage, while I was totally naked. On the flip she stripped naked and felt me up a bit while I finger a banged her. After a few minutes, #2 applied copious oil to and around my cock, and then oiled herself up. She began to sliding her oiled body up and down mine while squeezing her tits together around my shaft. He tits were very nice as well. I was pretty into it and we did this for a while. Eventually, once I had my share, I unloaded on her chest. We washed up and then I made my way downstairs, squared up at the desk, and said bye to number 2 as I made my way out.

Vermonter
06-04-18, 12:10
Hi, haven't posted in long time even got my rank demoted.

Anyway, anyone have recommendations on white / black women available in Shanghai?

Been out of the p4 p game for a bit and completely out of touch.

Thanks.Nightlife online has one black lady (I believe Jane), but haven't tried. They also usually have one or two white Russians. Again never tried. Not sure if you were just looking for leads or wanted experienced recommendations. I've been stuck on Asian mode ever since I first tried, myself.

Sinofaguo
06-04-18, 15:24
Hi, haven't posted in long time even got my rank demoted.

Anyway, anyone have recommendations on white / black women available in Shanghai?

Been out of the p4 p game for a bit and completely out of touch.

Thanks.Some people surelly have BS excuses to justify always asking for help yet not contributing one bit.

Try Bar Rouge.

K Zero
06-05-18, 00:06
Some people surelly have BS excuses to justify always asking for help yet not contributing one bit.

Try Bar Rouge.You know what, thanks for actually saying that and made me go find my old username.

Also, thank you for the recommendations. You are welcome to view my past contributions.

-K.

K Zero
06-05-18, 00:08
Nightlife online has one black lady (I believe Jane), but haven't tried. They also usually have one or two white Russians. Again never tried. Not sure if you were just looking for leads or wanted experienced recommendations. I've been stuck on Asian mode ever since I first tried, myself.Back then, it was craigslist, then they just don't allow WG ads anymore.

Thanks.

Magik
06-05-18, 04:09
I visited Dream Spa, which is in the shopping center on Xinchang Road just South of Xinzha Road on the West side of the street. I asked for the oil massage at the desk and the guy confirmed the typical 398 rate. I was led to the room and shortly thereafter a girl came in. She was fairly attractive in the face, but a little heavier then I like. She was wearing a black teddy that disappeared after the back massage. She spoke decent English too. She gave a decent enough back massage, then stripped off her top and oiled up my ass. She gave a good tease of the balls and then a nice slow handjob to the finale. I got a little tour of the joint from her on the way out. She said that they have 4 girls and all give services comparable to hers. I may try it again later to see if I can get a hotter girl.

Dex Xie
06-05-18, 11:14
So talked with some QQ girls to know their situation better.

Vast majority are not native Shanghai, but from other provinces. Majority are managed (in terms of there is another person that does the ads and booking). They move around a LOT. They usually rent out apartments from the Chinese equivalent of AirBnB. Think 2-4 weeks here, head home, 2-4 weeks there, etc. So yea, defininitely not going to do the Chinese AirBnB in the future, especially lower end, in lieu of this info.

Service is very inconsistent. I had a 400 p girl show very little interest in me, so I gtfo'ed after a shot. Another 400 p girl demanded I have a Chinese phone number (like wtf? A 500 p girl that was quite GFE and wouldn't stop talking. As you would guess, 'p' is 1 shot, with time limited to 50-60 minutes. Going to try an overnight and see what happens with a new 600 p girl that was quite friendly / chatty. Service definitely not on par with Bay-Area k-girl, but the girls can be just as hot or better and cheaper. On that aishxx website I linked, there is actually a review forum. So I try to get the ones with good reviews and stay away from the 1*'s. If you sign up (which I haven't) and buy tokens or whatever, you can unlock better content. Some guys that review post 'real' non-Photoshopped pics, and even sex acts.

Like I mentioned before, I do not read / write Chinese fluently. I usually have difficulty finding the Apartments myself. So if you want help, buddy up with someone that can read / write fluently (you can outcall overnight, but you run the risk of getting a bad service girl). The incalls are sometimes deep in residential zones, so if you don't look Asian, you'll stand out. With that in mind, PM me and I'll try to do what I can. I digress, my Chinese reading / writing is bad, so I am quite limited in what I can do.

P.S. Still no one for Judy / Manhattan? Geez!

Dex Xie
06-05-18, 11:18
I'd pay 1000 for that any day. At 600, I'd try to 2 shots for 1200.

Please help me when I come back to shanghai. We'll be best friends. Haha.

SAM.Sure PM me and see if I can help, but I'm limited too due to shitty Chinese skills.

Note that 'pp' means 2 shots. So 1100 for 2 shots. Yuge discount!


I'd like to see her without the doctored photos (I also saw some reference to that in comments), but ok man, convinced me, I'll try qq.She's quite different compared to most QQ girls. She runs a very active QQ profile, and posts a decent amount of new pictures there. So you can see for yourself.

Not super-GFE, but quite friendly and unrushed when I saw her. Although seemed a little tired.

Tommy Goat
06-05-18, 15:11
OK so where have all the African hunnies in Judy's gone?

I was in Judy's last week and was expecting to find maybe 6 or 7 black girls. Last time I was there (just before Christmas) I met a number of very sexy African ladies and regretted not going with one of them at the time. So, eager to put this right, I went back last week and much to my dismay I couldn't find any. Have they been forced out by the ring-masters?

Anyway, I need to report my back experience with "Sandy" from Kenya, who was sitting close by just outside Judy's on the way to Manhattan. I walked past her and made eye contact. A definite 8. We chatted a bit and then went for a couple of drinks at Manhattan while it was raining outside. She was young (25), slim and had wonderful rounded breasts on a slim body with pointy nipples showing through her crop top. After a couple of drinks and a few laughs she offered me 2000 for the night, but then finally agreed to 1000. Maybe I should have read the warning signs!

We went back to my hotel where she demolished the mini bar and then asked to be paid before taking off her clothes. Mistake No. 2.

Guys, this girl is serious bad news! She suddenly developed a real bad attitude problem and started accusing me of all sorts of crazy stuff. In the end it was all I could do just to get her out of the room. Watch out for her and avoid her like the plague!

Surely not all African girls are like her in Shanghai?

Sinofaguo
06-05-18, 16:01
Hi, haven't posted in long time even got my rank demoted.


You know what, thanks for actually saying that and made me go find my old username.

Np. It confirms you were using a BS excuse since you were not demoted as you claimed but apparently just too lazy to log on your original account :)

Sinofaguo
06-05-18, 16:39
I visited Dream SpaNice report Magik, it seems from your review that your experience was better at the 300 RMB place vs the 398 RMB one.

Just so you know there is another MP not far from your first spot if you walk towards Chengdu Bei Lu. The MP is at the corner of the highway.
It used to offer similar service. Walls are black and name in white and the have spa written.

Bad Boy Billy
06-05-18, 23:21
OK so where have all the African hunnies in Judy's gone?....................... Have they been forced out by the ring-masters?African girls have been banned from Judy's since it was forcibly shut some months back.

You can try Vue Bar at Hyatt on the Bund and my African regulars in Shanghai tell me Windows Garage W Nanjing Lu has become a second home for Africans. But I have not ben there so cannot confirm. Next visit I will definitely check it out. Also Zapatas of copurse and late night places like Hollywood but it's hours way too late for me.

K Zero
06-06-18, 01:51
OK so where have all the African hunnies in Judy's gone?

Surely not all African girls are like her in Shanghai?One of the reasons I asked for recommendations is also this, not trying to say all, but seems like most African girls are here to scam or rushed.

PlaceKicker
06-06-18, 15:27
Nothing too special, but one of the few MPs that operating seemingly like normal on southwest corner of Changde and Xinfeng roads. Stairs up to 2nd floor, nothing to negotiate but a simple yes / no. Room seemed a little old with a shower unit in a corner ripped out, instead there's a communal locker / shower area for anyone who misses the awkward sauna experience. Pretty basic massage and he, the one I had kept clothes on but allowed touching. Actually offered FS which I passed on because: a) a little tired; b) don't like upsell, though since I didn't even hear the pitch it's within the realm of possibility it was a freebie, hehe; and c) most importantly, passed by another girl I would've much preferred, but who was occupied at the time. Interesting note, had some kind of customer card that got stamped. Far as I can tell it's 300 until you collect 10, after which it's 250.

Sinofaguo
06-06-18, 18:04
This week is very windy in Shanghai.

Stay safe!

AbhiLover
06-07-18, 14:31
Hi friends,

I shall be in Shanghai from June 15th to 25th for a business visit. Can someone please help me with the general mongering situation there and what places to go for.

Suggestion on which areas to stay shall be helpful.

Also, some good night clubs will be interesting to know. Also, is there any regularised / legal red light are there and how strict is the LE there?

I know I have asked a lot of questions, any answers shall be highly appreciated.

And if any of you ever visits Delhi / Gurgaon, shall help in every possible way.

Cheers,

Abhi.

VagHunter
06-07-18, 18:39
New to forum. Visiting Shanghai for work and wanted to report on recent experiences. Decided to hit up Spring Massage as I first visited the location on Wanping Rd last month when I was here. Decided on Spring due to the many reviews it received here. First visit last month was standard, paid 398 rmb decent massage, decent girl. Nothing special, and got a solid handjob with some breast play in. Tipped at the end, but the girl (probably early 40's) seemed genuinely happy / surprised that I gave her anything extra. Next time I will try to avoid the tip if necessary unless outstanding skills are provided.

Anyways fast forward to yesterday, I hit the Spring Massage on Madang Road. (2nd floor) paid 336 rmb got a pretty hot 20's to early 30's girl, very poor massage (barely 15 minutes), flipped over and since I'm American and don't speak Chinese, she pulled out her phone and translated "is this your first time? In which I replied "no", she asked if I knew that extra's come with tips, we had some back and forth and asked about services. Basically suggested BBBJ / FS. She said sex is not offered. Tried hard to negotiate that, but came up short. In the end I ended up finger banging her while getting a pretty nice handjob. Blew a solid load, she cleaned me up and I was on my way. In the end I paid 300 rmb tip and overall would say it was a decent experience, but basically at NYC prices / standard. Thinking about it now, would most likely go back to check out other providers and see what extras I could negotiate.

2nd visit later that night, I went out and passed by a spa in Caojia Ferry, I want to say it's on the southeast corner of Yanping and Wuding 2nd floor. If you're there you can't miss it. I recognized it as having the same cobranding as the Spring Massage I went to on Madang (I think it's called Yu Ya Spa or something like that) so decided to give it a shot. This time I paid 216 rmb since the last Spring Massage made it clear tips are extra so I figured I could save with the lower rate oil massage. Bottom line, got a really nice 60 minute massage with no he which sucked so in the end called the manager over and asked about special services. In the end had to pay another 336 rmb and change rooms for service. This time I asked to see the lineup, manager brought 2, but the one (whom I saw earlier when I walked in) was hot so I happily chose her and agreed to pay more. Basically same deal as last massage same technique, 15 minutes max, flipped and asked how much tip I pay for extra service. She was hot (late 20's early 30's) and started at 500 rmb, I tried to negotiate BBBJ or FS in which she said handjob only. In the end, I paid 400 rmb to play with her pussy and grab her amazing breasts. Handjob was standard, and she blocked me from fully touching her pussy so not ideal, but in the end I blew a nice load and felt good about it since she was pretty hot. Overall decent experience, but would probably go back to Spring Massage on Madang to see what more I could pull.

Anybody have any recommendations for BBBJ / FS service at a MP around Jing'an area? I have one more day left and would like to explore. Thanks!

VagHunter
06-08-18, 15:31
Nothing too special, but one of the few MPs that operating seemingly like normal on southwest corner of Changde and Xinfeng roads. Stairs up to 2nd floor, nothing to negotiate but a simple yes / no. Room seemed a little old with a shower unit in a corner ripped out, instead there's a communal locker / shower area for anyone who misses the awkward sauna experience. Pretty basic massage and he, the one I had kept clothes on but allowed touching. Actually offered FS which I passed on because: a) a little tired; b) don't like upsell, though since I didn't even hear the pitch it's within the realm of possibility it was a freebie, hehe; and c) most importantly, passed by another girl I would've much preferred, but who was occupied at the time. Interesting note, had some kind of customer card that got stamped. Far as I can tell it's 300 until you collect 10, after which it's 250.Thanks for the tip! I stopped by today and would actually say this is a diamond in the rough. One quick friendly correction from the post is that it's on the southeast corner of Changde & Xinfeng, but you can't miss it with thr big sign that says "Spa".

Paid the 300 (298 to be exact), got lucky and got a really attractive girl who was definitely under the age of 30, skinny and nice face. Almost innocent looking. Wore a nice short skirt as well which added to the appeal. Was led to the sauna changing room, quick shower then back in the room for a rub. Rub was decent, unrushed, started rubbing my balls then flipped. Was expecting a tip convo but rather she started stroking me while I started rubbing her pussy over her panties. At this point I was aroused and asked about FS, but was denied. Although the service was basic in this case, on the way out I saw some other decent talent with only 1 other older woman who definitely looked like she would offer FS. I think it's worth it to go and report on FS. Heading out paid the agreed amount of 300, not once asked about extra tip, spoke to the papasan who was cool and spoke decent English. Told him I would share the news and pass along the word. I will echo what the previous posted mentioned in that the rooms are older and a little bit beat, but chances are most of us don't care about ambience only in that we can get decent service at a good price. To be honest if I wasn't leaving tomorrow I would be back ASAP!