East China - Shanghai

[Maddog40]

I've been reading ISG for some time, but this is my first report.

I've roamed Pudong yesterday for some BBS, around Beizhong Road it seems everything is closed, not even street lamps in the area after 11pm. In Yinsheng Road near Carrefour Jinqiao store there were some pretty faces in the windows, but nothing that really stood out.

Does anyone know if the shops in Wuzhong Road are still open? I remember there used to be quite a few stunners there. I only ever got HS there, though.

I've never been in on of those legitimate massage parlors. How does this work? Oil or soapy. Does the girl take off her clothes and let you massage her? And how much do I have to expect to pay?

I've been on and off Shanghai for the past few years and it seems the BBS scene has changed completely. If anyone knows any BBS areas that are still doing business I would appreciate to let me know. PM me, I guess that's safer.

Thanks

Hey Lionmaster,
So you've been reading for sometime, travel to Shanghai for years and now you "report" for your first time... How about contributing before continuing to take from others? This board works because there are those that give their experience for others to learn from and enjoy. If the board was made up of only Lionmasters it would be nothing but questions to benefit themselves.

The words would not be as harsh if you did not have the history and decided not to contribute.

MD40

[BionicMan]

I've been reading ISG for some time, but this is my first report.....
Thanks

where's the report?
Ah do you mean street patroling report?
Leave this to "neighbourhood watch" and let us know more about the real things:)

[Fuzimiao]

Manhattan was very much in the TV news this week, but no mention moving house. Seems six Filipino ladyboys were running an operation out of Tongren Lu, Drugging Johns, then stripping thier hotel rooms or apartments. One turned the rest in and was released, the rest were sentenced to up to 13 years in a Chinese men's prison. Should be interesting!

fz

[Lionmaster]

MD 40 and Bionicman,

Thanks for the welcome.

[Johnjohn Bob]

JJB,

Great report! I just want to ask a question.

As you had agreed to 680 RMB for the session, it was obviously an all inclusive package for FS. Why did you feel inclined to give her a nearly 50% tip? It is included in the package to "focus on your satisfaction and work hard on the second shot". A tip is not required, however, 50-100 RMB would have been plenty if you must.

Just my POV.

OAHIn places where the payment is made to mamasan or as in this case at the front desk, it is obvious that the girl gets less than 50% of what you pay.

Since the girl was very nice I decided to give her a nice tip. It was not requested, it was not required and she would be still in smiles if I haven't tipped her.

It just made me feel better and 300 RMB is really nothing in comparison of having a good feeling that the girl will be able to buy herself something nice or help her family. For me 300 RMB is a price of a couple of drinks at the bar and for her it is probably a couple days of work.

For me this is not just about mechanical sex and the girls are not some soulless robots. If it makes me feel good to give someone a little bit money why not? I don't think I contributed to the inflation of local prices since this was not negotiated up front and I gave it to her when I was leaving and she was not expecting it. She actually may be extra nice for the next white guy hoping for the same miracle. Obviously she will get disappointed but some of you may be pleasantly surprised.

[Maddog40]

MD 40 and Bionicman,

Thanks for the welcome.

Lionmaster, are you really serious? You've been lurking for years without contributing and now you want to play the victim after words to suggest you contribute? You expected a grand parade (after using the board for years) because you wrote a "report" or more accurately requests of others? Seems like your name should be Mousemaster. This is not intended as a flame, but come on, Man Up and give back.

[Waldeck2]

Depends to some extent on the girl. If you click with the girl in Sarcosa, Heting or Merrylin the second shot is available, usually by mouth. And they can be very good. Possibly not the first time you see her though.


Really? I've never gotten a 2nd shot anywhere in Shanghai without paying extra, although I've only ever been to the old Shanghai Hotel, the old B2, and 999.

[BionicMan]

....
It just made me feel better and 300 RMB is really nothing in........ For me 300 RMB is a price of a couple of drinks at the bar and for her it is probably a couple days of work.
.....and I gave it to her when I was leaving and she was not expecting it. She actually may be extra nice for the next white guy hoping for the same miracle. Obviously she will get disappointed but some of you may be pleasantly surprised.
Good strategy, but be prepared to many PM asking for your schedule...so they book soon after you have been somewhere :)

[Dragon D]

All the BBS that used to be hand job heaven are all gone. Replacing them are a couple of saunas...

Jiyuan 3 has changed its name but is still there look for roman pillars.

One sauna beside that sorry don't remember the name.

Up the street 500 Wuzhong they now have soapy land massage for 680 before 5 or so and then it goes to 730...

Cheers all and happy holidays

[Levitian]

And for the record, the owner at Lounge 18 (or Bund 18 as it says on the giant sign in front) is a dick but the women there were cool. The problem is that if the owner doesn't let you hit on the chicks in the venue, it's probably not worth going.

Let's say you simply hit on the wrong girl. Tant pis.
If I would be the owner and if I would have laid eyes on this girl myself, I probably would have done the same.

Levitian

[OldAsiaHand]

For me this is not just about mechanical sex and the girls are not some soulless robots. If it makes me feel good to give someone a little bit money why not? I don't think I contributed to the inflation of local prices since this was not negotiated up front and I gave it to her when I was leaving and she was not expecting it. She actually may be extra nice for the next white guy hoping for the same miracle. Obviously she will get disappointed but some of you may be pleasantly surprised.

Or, she will start expecting big tips from every laowai punter that come along. And, she may start asking for them upfront. And, her service may get worse if she doesn't get them.

IMHO, she probably thinks you are a fool, rather than a nice guy, for giving her such a big tip. I don't say one should never tip, I just think yours was over the top. Do you give a waiter 50% of the bill as a tip in a restaurant.

Just my POV.

OAH

[World Guy Sh]

anyway, i respectfully disagree with wgs on this post. wgs basically concedes my two main points are true.

1. you will not get freebee fun in these places. they are not pickup joints.

"i have met many girls at these places (just for fun, drinknig etc, ***sometimes*** for freebie fun)"

he is a regular and he admits he doesn't usually get laid by the girls you meet in these clubs.but i have lost count of the number i have. not bad in 18 months mate.


2. the girls there are hired guns. they are there because they are paid to entertain you, not because they just want to have fun and possibly get laid.

"it is fair to say that g+ had for a while at least, a group of girls who worked there. kind of as drinking companions, but that is a) pretty common in china (is it sky bar in the new factories that also does this as does the m2, 3, 4 places). but in g+ they hand(ed) out plastic name cards. "they aren't there for shagging. if you are not interesed they go away.


anyway, guys, i prefer freebees (and had remarkable success at getting them in shanghai, but mainly girls i met in shopping malls or on the street). the highlight of my trip was a freebee who said, "f- me, f- me, i am your chinese sex slave, f- me. " i only really use professionals because i like to have threesomes.wow, you are a god. all bow down.


i want to repeat my prior post. if you are looking for freebees or prostitutes don't go to richy, luxe, club g plus and babyface nightclub in shanghai.they are in abundance if you want them. just not always required or wanted. hence "sometimes". get it?


unfortunately, i found that the clubs mentioned above were full of scammers who were paid money to entertain you and not to have sex with you. several of the girls told me as much when i confronted them about it. if you are trying to get a freebee going there is counterproductive.obviously you attract them. no one else (and on speaking to other people who go including chinese friends recognise your claims) have ever seen this. sour grapes would be a polite way of putting their response.


i ask the people who support these clubs a simple question. how often have you actually had sex with a girl you met at one of these clubs?see above. lots.


i guess some people like to hang out in clubs surrounded by girls who are paid to be your friend without you knowing about it.the girl on saturday was obviously not paid. she left here at 4pm sunday.


personally, i prefer a more transparent situation. either she is a prostitute and you know what you're getting (sex for money) or she is a freebee that has sex with you because she's horny and thinks you're cool.or you just learn to recognise it. it is pretty simple. the pros are the ones that generally speaking will not take a drink as they like to keep their heads clear for business.


and for the record, the owner at lounge 18 (or bund 18 as it says on the giant sign in front) is a dick but the women there were cool. the problem is that if the owner doesn't let you hit on the chicks in the venue, it's probably not worth going.are but which floor? bund 18 has all kinds of places in. perhaps you were in the furniture store drunk?

by the way. you pay for threesomes?

enjoy christmas,

wgs

[Contex01]

And treat them well

I was inspired by the long time lurker who posted for the first time, and I'm sort of in the same boat so I thought I may as well "pay some dues" to fellow mongerers.

Especially after the crackdowns on central Shanghai, the action is moving more and more away from the downtown. I remember when at BBS's around Zhongshan Park you could get good FS for 150-200. Now, you're lucky to get a smile.

Take Line 1 past Shanghai South Station, and the scenery changes dramatically. There are entire villages out there though not too familiar with foreigners, and they seem to be enclaves. Around Jinjiang park station, when you cross the bridge (easy to spot), there's a village of BBS's and they give excellent service. When getting out of the station, take the underpass to the south side and you'll start seeing the shops. Don't pay more than 200 as that's the standard, and enjoy. Speaking at least some Chinese is a must and it's always wise to keep nice relations with the ladies and their mama/papasan's, which I guess goes without saying for that kind of action.

On the other side the station you will see a big "Metro" megamart. Stroll over in that direction and there will be 3 or 4 shops, all offering FS, though the quality of the merch varies considerably. On a sidestreet near Metro, on Pubei lu, you'll find some oil massage places with very happy ending and nice girls who will let you do pretty much anything apart from FS. They're dressed nicely and there's a line up of 8-10 at any time of day. Cost is 150 for almost an hour and they have tiny private rooms and good attitude. |Those of you who have fond memories of Peacock will feel a tinge of nostalgia before agreeing this place may be worth the trip. The girls are all from Hainan so on the smallish side but generally have good attitude and if you repeat with one the service will be much better.

The area itself is full of gems though if you're unfamiliar it may take some wandering. For me personally, the process of exploring is an art of its own, so I don't intend to give specific addresses out on the forum, though I think the mongering game is changing in Shanghai. I've never really been into the whole "TRL" scene though can see why it suits those who are here for a short time and want instant action. As the areas around the downtown get more developed, you can see more action as it's at the stage where it's not too empty (read, 40 yo girls past their prime) and also not too full so that it brings about too much attention (xjh, jing'an). Prices are generally more fair and because they get more leeway (maybe thinner hongbao to their local LE) some of them get quite creative.

So if I'm allowed, I'd like to suggest doing a bit of trailblazing, and going further south. Wait till you hit xinzhuang, though that's a whole other post, for another day.

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[Bonzo1]

I have been by Da Tong in the day and seen the construction. Actually looks quite nice, and I love the fact that the whole thing is below ground (apparently the building was built to be a shopping mall but was never used).

Looks like about 30 to 50 bars, small restaurants, and other small stores will be there. Some are already open (very few, and soft openings I suspect). Some TRL, Julu lu, and Huashan lu owners are setting up their new outfits there.

I have also talked with the owners of Woodstock (friends of mine) and they said they are going to open a nicer version of the bar there and they want to shed the TRL ripoff image. They promised it will still be fun, just less pushy and getting rid of the trouble-making girls, and they will be adding some "new features" to make it more fun. We'll see what that means.

There's another bar in the complex which will be called "Airplane bar" - it will be a theme bar and look like the inside of an airplane (the space itself is very long and very narrow). The owners I have heard are Americans, so hopefully they'll do a good job with it.

All the stores and bars there appear to be spending more on construction and the whole place has a sort of Chinese-Vegas kinda feel to it.

So, it looks like this is going to be a new and improved TRL. Let's hope the good times will be rolling there soon, and that it's more like the good old days of Maoming lu than TRL!

Anyone else heard anything?

-B-


Btw, Da Tong is on Julu lu near Chengdu lu. It's downstairs in the park with the clear bubble thing above it ...there is some kind of Armani type club there already, and it's the huge indoor/outdoor space next to that.

[Gaolei]

Thanks for very good information. I would put your report in Links to Reports of Distinction, but could not figure it out. I wish we got more reports like this and less BS reports about nothing. Now I know where to find my old Maoming, Julu, TRL girlfriends who now own the bars.

[Maddog40]

Thanks Context,

Nice and very helpful report. Please continue to share your experiences.
MD40

[Nightwing88]

Nightwing here wishing to offer all my brothers in ISG Shanghai land a very merry Christmas and prosperous New year!

While I don't monger that often anymore because of work commitments, I've only been choosing the best environment I can when I do. That place would be Heting Elite (on 777 Siping Lu). Žl•½˜H777�†

Take Metro #8 line to Siping Lu Station, exit station and walk southwest on Siping about 200 metres to get to Heting. Outside of Heting is a black glass wall, that gives no description of what is going on inside. But, be prepared to be pampered once you do go in. Price is 698 after 5, 598 before 5. If you want a fapiao, be prepared to pay an extra 100 RMB. Yes, it is more expensive than the villages and BBS shops that charge 100-200RMB. But, this is what you get and this is why I like it more now.

1. Select from a bunch of girls that are pressured to give great service. The girls are on quota to have a customer select them by number at the front desk every month, otherwise their pay is deducted. So, they have perform and satisfy every customer fully and they want you to come back and remember their number. You usually pick from a group of about 5 to 10. The appearances range from 5 to 8, but the service is great.

2. Multiple Pops. Here is how you do it. As soon as you walk in the door, don't let the girl do the usual routine. Go straight to doing the deed, and the girl will oblige. After you are done, she will then continue with the usual routine, and at some point later in the session, you will have an opportunity to do it again! I usually do the girl twice, and once did her three times. Note to the wise: Don't do three times, unless you are young at heart. I almost fainted from the exertion.

3. Nicest environment by far. The sauna is clean and hot, the showers are clean and hot, the jacuzzi tub is clean and hot. The furnishings of Heting make it look more like a nightclub than a sauna; and I've been to quite a few saunas in Shanghai and China. By the way, did I mention it was clean?

4. Food. After the deed is done, you can relax in your private room with your buddies and order a light snack of noodles and dim sum with unlimited soft drinks or tea. Oh, and did I mention the price? It's free and included with the fee.

5. Discreet. They add a lot of nice touches as you are leaving. They will call a taxi for you if needed, so you just wait inside until your car arrives. If you drive to Heting, we've noticed that they also cover your license plates with a towel, so that no one can identify your car if they are walking by!

6. Managers. The managers are great and speak English. Always ask for Bob when you get there and he will make sure you have a great time. The managers also take the effort to follow up with you afterwards to make sure that you've enjoyed yourself and take notes to improve their service in the future. If more legitimate businesses in China made this type of effort, it would make working here in China that much better!

7. Only area of improvement I would add is that it would be great if they had free WiFi in the resting rooms as well!

Once again, merry Christmas, and keep posting the reports!

Nightwing

[Shiva Lee]

First, I really like to thank Nightwing88, very good report and advice! Actually I just came back from Heting where I got a very very nice moment. Indeed everything is like NW88 said, just one thing troubled me: everything was very very clean except one thing: the toilette XD, but I mean is still ok, I will go back. I can say that definitly, Heting is better than G18 and JinDing IMHO.

I had 153 in a line of 5 girls, not very cut (I would give her 6/10) but very good service I would give here 8/10, why not more: cause they don't do anal, so.1; and the girl talked a bit too much so the 2nd shot was a bit a rush (I can speak Chinese pretty well but also I might just blame myself for that)!

The reste is:

Attitude: 9/10, I never give 10

BBBJ: 8/10

Skin: 9/10, (very soft)

So overall I would give this girl a 8 or 8, 5/10, but so far it is my best experience I had in SH, so I would recommande that place very much!

Hope fully next time I'll go they have more girls, and above 6/10.

Merry Christmas all and happy mongering!

Please guys by the way be nice with the girls, thanks!

[Blacklisted]

Thanks especially Nightwing, Shiva and Contex for excellent information I plan to explore as a Christmas gift to wo ziji right now.

Best wishes to all mongerers!!

[Contex01]

There's a huge entertainment complex called 868, which includes a hotel, sauna (650 for the works though never tried it) at least 2 KTV's and a hotel. I used to be willing to pay close to that for B2 back in the day, but have a better source for the sauna experience now. More detail on that to follow in the next few days, so for now let's stick to that complex. Located just off Xizhuang station but tucked beside the huge bridge/overpass, off Xinzhu lu. Xinzhu lu itself has many little gems especially if you're into younger, more enthusiastic BBS ladies. I live near there and once when in a taxi, my wife commented "xinzhu lu looks like a bad street. I don't like it", which was just the thing I wanted to hear considering I don't live too far from there.

Anyway, the disco/bar at 868 is huge. Drinks are relatively cheap. I believe 6 bottles of tsingtao will run you 100, and a bottle of (godawful) wine is 70 (!), and although it's reminiscent of a local disco, the place is crawling with julu lu style talking girls. They drink with you out of little glasses, toasting and giggling. The hilarious thing is the last time we were there, all the girls were saying they want to marry foreigners. AFAIK, no other foreigners really frequent the place, so your prestige increases, as does the girls' enthusiasm because the place is generally dead. Even on a Saturday night, there are generally 2 groups or so, and most of the locals that go there order private KTV style rooms. I never really partook in the KTV experence as I'm generally with a small group of 2 or 3, and use the place as a watering hole for further mongering later.

As with most of these places, the girls will tease and entertain you, though with a little bit of Chinese language skill, they generally turn out to be quite candid. I personally found the old (no pun intended) julu girls to be slightly jaded and cynical, though who could blame them. I had recently befriended one of them. She was a cute little thing from Sichuan who had been working here for six months and had never been outside of that area. Basically, the girls work every day and don't really have a social life. Their pay is based on their work and a deposit system whereas they get their full salary after completing their contracts (which most of them never do). So I decided to take her out for a day of exploring the city, as she's a really sweet girl. She was great to hang out with and could have become a regular freebie, though it would have meant taking on an array of psychological and financial obligations. I'm married and live in that area, so it could have opened up a can of worms that woudl come back and haunt me. From what she'd told me most of the girls there are in a sort of "WG" purgatory/waiting list, looking for other work or testing the waters of that lifestyle. The conditions of the place are pretty crap and they seem to admire their ex-colleagues who went on to become mistresses or get waitress jobs at downtown bars. Sichuan girl is 19 and is happy enough to "have rice" two times a day and a roof over her head though once they clue into the reality of the game they start looking for better.

I highly recommend 868 for flirtation, especially if you're with a group of fellow mongerers. In addition to that the BBS's and faux saunas are within walking distance, some even attached to this mammoth entertainment complex. The BBS's charge 120-130 for FS, and if you become a regular the quality is excellent.

FS is not on the menu at 868 itself, but the ladies are keen to become "friends" and are able to go out and most of them seem to be happy to switch jobs. My Sichuan girl keeps asking me if I know any bars in the city center that are hiring, as she's keen to move on but wants something/someone to fall back on.

The management of this place is also desperate for business, it seems, and there's a total laissez faire attitude, especially since they MUST be losing loads of money. Those who've been in China for a while can recognize it as one of those mega projects some official had the bright idea of building that never quite turned into the next Las Vegas.

So find xinzhu lu near xinzhuang station, then take the big footbridge and you'll see this complex. It's one of the few places left in Shanghai which still has a sort of "anything goes" feel of a few years ago. It's a little bizarre, but is becoming a nice little home base. I need to pay some membership dues to the site then will get private messaging, so if anyone is interested could join them on a little expedition of the area. Just need to figure out a discrete way to do it without the missus finding out.

In any case, that's my 868 report. Blacklisted, or whover else is willing to brave the cold of Shanghai, take a walk around it and check out some of the places. As you head towards Yindu lu, you will be blown away (pun intended). I will post the faux sauna report soon.

Happy festivus!

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[Shanghaied Again]

Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again!

[Shanghaied Again]

Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again!

[Mcsfo2004]

Search the forum for posts on VPN services. You will need one in China to get around the internet sphincter police. I use "Strong VPN," a paid service rather than a free service. It has been quite trustworthy for the past four months.

Cheers!


Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again!

[Mike666]

Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again!


There has been a lot of posts on VPN and Proxy in the last few months. Please search the Shanghai board and perhaps the one on "living in China". Your best bet is to subscribe to a VPN service.

[Fisherman2]

Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again!Hi,

Witopia (www.witopia.net) works for me. Their service is almost free (USD 60 per year), but seems to work better than other, completely free solutions. Needless to say, it is slow, but certainly perfectly adequate for sites with mostly text.

Fisherman

[Blacklisted]

Another fantastic report and this is exactly what I am looking for right now after feeling a bit sad and jaded by the demise of the former sin city in light of the coming expo. I know EXACTLY what you mean when you write about the anything goes feel of Shanghai back then and it's a real tragedy to see it slide.

I hope your post does not attract the attentions of the wrong kind which could be disastrous for you considering it is your local and sounds brilliant. Have seen it happen a few too many times and it can happen in the blink of an eye.

I humbly recommend you keep some of these joints close to your chest and good thinking on not posting any specifics in the first report.

Would also urge you to get yourself signed up to this great forum so we can hook up for some hunting one eve.

Great stuff and look forward to exploring out there soon.





In any case, that's my 868 report. Blacklisted, or whover else is willing to brave the cold of Shanghai, take a walk around it and check out some of the places. As you head towards Yindu lu, you will be blown away (pun intended). I will post the faux sauna report soon.

Happy festivus!

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[OldAsiaHand]

There has been a lot of posts on VPN and Proxy in the last few months. Please search the Shanghai board and perhaps the one on "living in China". Your best bet is to subscribe to a VPN service.

I use Witopia and whilst the basic service plan at $39.99 gets me into ISG it stopped working for the likes of Facebook, Youtube and Twitter. I will have to upgrade to the $69.99 plan (SSL) or find another alternative.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Contex01]

The wandering hunt. You know it well, and I think I would have stopped the whole game ages ago if there wasn't for the thrill of exploration. A few weeks ago, it was one of the last evenings still suitable for walking around, and with the missus on a business trip, I decided to check out a village nearby. On my way there, had a larger than expected joint (we all have our vices), making me slightly more excitable and hazy than expcted and found myself passing by what looks like a fairly large massage place.

I kind of wanted an oil massage with happy ending, and this seemed like just the place. From look of it I thought it would be legit though naughty enough to make it an evening. I enter and ask the manager about their service. Had to switch to Chinese as his English was "Hello, massagy" basic and he gave me two choices of package. 188 for oil and 368 for "total". Hmm. "total zen me yang? " to which he answers "sui bian". Good enough for me, so he takes me in through the foot massage area with blaring TV towards a mirror-door, up the stairs where there are 10 or so hotel style rooms, and tells me to wait while he fetches the girls. I ask if I can choose from a line up, and he seemed to hesitate at first before bringing 5 girls, ranging from 6-8. One slightly more voluptuous and warm looking caught my eye and after she went to get her little bag, I let her take the lead.

First step was shower, together, and she was quite attentive and ensured I was so fresh and so clean before taking me to the bed. Here, the service gets reminiscent of saunas, with cat bath as appetizer, followed by some very comfortable body sliding using her considerable rack. She was at first using baby powder and her technique was excellent. Next was AR before getting out some jello-type candy and using it all over me. The sensation was decent and it was my first time to experience it, and she was definitely a black belt in sauna-girl neck training. Not bad and "A" for effort on her part. Moved on to a very nice BJ followed by some DATY which she quite appreciated. On comes the rain coat and some enthusiastic action. The room is equipped with a mirror next to the bed and even though my attendant was from Shandong, you'd think she's a Shanghai princess with her love for watching herself in the mirror. Credit to her, she has excellent use of space as we ended up in several positions and moving all over the room. Finally took the condom off and she knew just how to manage the money shot as it landed all over her. The "hao da" turned into "hao duoo" which made me laugh. We chatted for a while over a cigarette and turns out there is a frenchman who enjoys frequenting the place on weekday mornings! I ask what time they open and she says 2 though you can reserve a girl by calling her. We also exchanged numbers and I got a customary "suana style" phone call a couple od days later to remind me that if I have time to come and play and be sure to ask for number 12. I only had one pop though afterwards she seemed to enjoy talking and there was no rush to leave, making me think the time could have been used for further action if I tried.

As I was leaving I saw a couple of other girls and a mamasan type that buzzed me to the main lobby. Damage was indeed 368 and after paying, the manager asked me to help myself to some complimentary candy at the register.among the batch were the very same jello things Lady 12 used on me, and after a second thought, opted for some awful tasting coffee stuff.

Exhausted and satisfied, walked back to xinzhuang station. Worth the visit for sure.

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[Mike666]

I tried G18 twice over the past two weeks. Selection was acceptable in the afternoon but I didn't find any of the hotties others have mentioned. The place seems busy. The routine has been reported many times so I will skip it. I do find it disappointing that some of the rooms don't have any mirrors, and no mirror in the shower area. It'll be more fun to see yourself and the girl with the mirror.

1. 62, Dongbei girl, flirtatious and quite a talker. If you speak good Chinese and don't mind the girl talking her head off, she's great. A bit on the chubby side and small tits. I got a bit turned off when she tried to talk me into a duet after my tenth refusal.
FS: 8/10 (like that butt, but no anal)
BBBJ: 7/10
Attitude: 7~10/10, depends whether you just like the moaning or a bit of dirty talk.

2. Sichuan girl, no number as I forgot. Sorry
Very nice smile and good looking. Nice tits and quite willing to please.
FS: 7/10
BBBJ: 8/10
Attitude: 8/10

I only did one pop in both cases. Talked too much. Two or more pops should be fine as long as you have an understanding with the girl and keep things under control (ie: skip the cat bath). Has anyone try doing the girl in the soapie mattress?

G18 always sends a second girl for a 5 minutes try out when you first take a shower. I had the experience of having 89 and 99. 99 is a tall and slender Dongbei girl with a few small tattoos and fairly big tits (in such a slender frame). Didn't seem friendly but I am tempted to ask for her next time.

Damage 790 RMB with the VIP card.

Here's my questions:
1) The girls told me G18 used to have the famous fuck chair but has been taken apart (probably after a LE visit). Does anyone know another place with it?
2) Aside from 999, where would you recommend for a soapie place with comparable price and selection?

Cheers

[Ira Johnson]

Hi,

Witopia (www.witopia.net) works for me. Their service is almost free (USD 60 per year), but seems to work better than other, completely free solutions. Needless to say, it is slow, but certainly perfectly adequate for sites with mostly text.

Fisherman

well... witopia's VPN does not work for me, and their customer service just stopped responding to me.

They gave me access to the PPTP service, which I am using right now for ISG. but I can't get to facebook with it.

[Cheap Cabbage]

Google the vadalia package and download it. Then get the tor button add-on for firefox. Vadalia lets to connect to the tor proxy network. It'll by bypass the usual problems with using proxys in the China firewall by using bridges from users around the world. Works fine for me. Just connect to the tor network form the vadalia program and then hit the tor button on the bottom right of your firefox browser. Its slower, but it works.


well... witopia's VPN does not work for me, and their customer service just stopped responding to me.

They gave me access to the PPTP service, which I am using right now for ISG. but I can't get to facebook with it.

[Blacklisted]

There is a hotel called La Casa which is a bit of a Love Hotel type deal out on Yan An Xi lu. I used to take my GF there regularly when lacking a suitable shag pad and it was pretty reasonably priced and the VIP suites have the fuck chair you describe.

Bit of a novelty but I wouldn't get too excited over it. Worth a crack.

Enjoy,

-BL



.

Here's my questions:
1) The girls told me G18 used to have the famous fuck chair but has been taken apart (probably after a LE visit). Does anyone know another place with it?
2) Aside from 999, where would you recommend for a soapie place with comparable price and selection?

Cheers

[OldAsiaHand]

well... witopia's VPN does not work for me, and their customer service just stopped responding to me.

They gave me access to the PPTP service, which I am using right now for ISG. but I can't get to facebook with it.

Customer service at Witopia only told me to buy the SSL plan at more than twice the price ($69.95/year). I also have the PPTP service ($39.95/year) with similar results as you. ISG is OK, but not facebook. It seems Fisherman has the SSL service.

Some mates have recommended Strong VPN but this is even more expensive than Witopia.

OAH

[Bnlee2]

There is a hotel called La Casa which is a bit of a Love Hotel type deal out on Yan An Xi lu. I used to take my GF there regularly when lacking a suitable shag pad and it was pretty reasonably priced and the VIP suites have the fuck chair you descriB.

Bit of a novelty but I wouldn't get too excited over it. Worth a crack.

Enjoy,

-BLI have been to several love hotel with the fuck chairs. They are great. I remember this one hotel "East Ocean", I believe somewhere near CP, it looks like the one you see in the ad section in one the the men's mag. One time, I had one ontop of me while the other one was pushing her tits in my face. What a way to go, dying of a heart attack in one of those chairs.

Every hotel room should have one of those recreational chairs.

Just my two rmb on this. I only wish that I have one of these chairs at home, but would have a difficult time telling wifey how I learn about those apparatus.

[Blacklisted]

Customer service at Witopia only told me to buy the SSL plan at more than twice the price ($69.95/year). I also have the PPTP service ($39.95/year) with similar results as you. ISG is OK, but not facebook. It seems Fisherman has the SSL service.

Some mates have recommended Strong VPN but this is even more expensive than Witopia.

OAH

Customer service there sucks and it's not cheap - same problem for me accessing Facebook as well. Might be best to source a free VPN and use that for ISG.

[Turner Garth]

Thanks especially Nightwing, Shiva and Contex for excellent information I plan to explore as a Christmas gift to wo ziji right now.

Best wishes to all mongerers!!Test just a test sorry all

[Maverick09]

Hi there,

first of all thank you all for contributing to this forum.

I am coming to Shanghai 29 dec - 5 jan and I would like to visit some places for sauna and "good level"/"right price" extra services.

I read some of your good reports. I am only concerned about directions. I heard that taxi drivers don't speak or read english and I don't find directions from the underground so it would be hard to find the places you described.

In particular, I may wish to visit

Heting Elite
Golden 18
1856 Nanjing Lu

Could you help me with directions or suggest other places?

Thank you all

[Pushkin13]

v tunnel works for me here in China.

All areas.

Just my experience.

P13

[Member #2453]

Is the Sauna at the Shanghai hotel operational?

Any sauna with the red rope still open in Shanghai?

Thanks in advance

[Jamie5063]

Customer service there sucks and it's not cheap - same problem for me accessing Facebook as well. Might be best to source a free VPN and use that for ISG.
I find the UK servers for the fastest service for ISG with WiTopia and have also set up the DNS server settings to bypass the Chinese one.
From the WiTopia site.
"Your ISP may be blocking you using their DNS (Domain Name system) WiTopia provides DNS service for its customers and we recommend you take advantage of it to maintain complete privacy and for best performance."

see the FAQ to set up the DNS manually. This improved the performance heaps for me. I also noticed they have a Hong Kong server as well now must try that.

[FernandoAlonso]

Hi there,

first of all thank you all for contributing to this forum.

I am coming to Shanghai 29 dec - 5 jan and I would like to visit some places for sauna and "good level"/"right price" extra services.

I read some of your good reports. I am only concerned about directions. I heard that taxi drivers don't speak or read english and I don't find directions from the underground so it would be hard to find the places you described.

In particular, I may wish to visit

Heting Elite
Golden 18
1856 Nanjing Lu

Could you help me with directions or suggest other places?

Thank you allSearch is the solution or ask the concierge of your hotel, these are regular street names, no underground here..

[Mike666]

I find the UK servers for the fastest service for ISG with WiTopia and have also set up the DNS server settings to bypass the Chinese one.
From the WiTopia site.
"Your ISP may be blocking you using their DNS (Domain Name system) WiTopia provides DNS service for its customers and we recommend you take advantage of it to maintain complete privacy and for best performance."

see the FAQ to set up the DNS manually. This improved the performance heaps for me. I also noticed they have a Hong Kong server as well now must try that.

Thanks Jamie. I didn't realize Witopia has a server in Hong Kong now. I have been using it for about three years and have had no problems (so far). Customer service been fast to respond. Perhaps they are getting so much business they are letting service slide?

[Mike666]

Is the Sauna at the Shanghai hotel operational?

Any sauna with the red rope still open in Shanghai?

Thanks in advance


Hi, scroll back a few pages and you'll find a post mentioning SH sauna is legit now. Pity.

[FernandoAlonso]

Thanks Jamie. I didn't realize Witopia has a server in Hong Kong now. I have been using it for about three years and have had no problems (so far). Customer service been fast to respond. Perhaps they are getting so much business they are letting service slide?Just as a word of caution, we may not want to openly discuss this here, many things we use(d) shut down because of too much information disclosed. I am aware VPNs are more difficult to shut down than proxies, but why take any risk?

Just IMHO

FA

[BionicMan]

...
Just my two rmb on this. I only wish that I have one of these chairs at home, but would have a difficult time telling wifey how I learn about those apparatus....

...a friend! just tell her a friend told you about it! That is what friends are for.
On the other hand in social conversation we always say a friend told this and that..such things as Shangai has saunas...etc etc..:)

[World Guy Sh]

Just as a word of caution, we may not want to openly discuss this here, many things we use(d) shut down because of too much information disclosed. I am aware VPNs are more difficult to shut down than proxies, but why take any risk?

Just IMHO

FAChaps,

have to fully support this. Best way is to use PM for the duration.

If you don't have one you can get one by signing up or getting to over 25 posts. Either way, it will also get you more respect amongst fellow members. Actually, let me rephrase that. It will get you more trust amongst fellow members.

Best,

WGS

[Facial Worship]

Been in Shanghai a number of years now, seen the fellow expats come and go. Been reading this board a while now and find it usefull indeed.

Must thank Contex about the report on 868 sounds fantastic! If anybody wants to head down there sometime soon could be a blast.

The city centre is pretty dead for bars now so would be fun to check out new part of town.

Have a great 2010

[World Guy Sh]

Hey,

Happy New Years All - here's to more fun in 2010. Trust everyone has a good night tonight, nudge nudge.

Best,

WGS

[Member #2453]

Hi, scroll back a few pages and you'll find a post mentioning SH sauna is legit now. Pity.I had read a post by paulmartin of shanghai massage moving to a new location, any landmark or sign board on the building? I couldn't find the Place yesterday? Also any similar places with red rope? Thanks

Originally Posted by Paulmartin

On my way out of Shanghai. The Shanghai hotel 4th floor is closed. The owner moved around the corner-walking out of hotel Lobby, turn left, second street turn left. Half way down the block.

[Waldeck2]

In China and ISG. I think we make ourselves much too important concerning what we do in China. On a percentage basis I think we maybe, MAYBE??, less than 1/2 of 1%. It is relatively easy to block ISG. Most P4P activity is done by Chinese. In 15 months I have only seen one other white guy in a sauna. And we didn't talk, just waved. Do the numbers. We aren't that important given the P4P scene in China. My pov.


Just as a word of caution, we may not want to openly discuss this here, many things we use(d) shut down because of too much information disclosed. I am aware VPNs are more difficult to shut down than proxies, but why take any risk?

Just IMHO

FA

[Relaxedinmd]

Hi all! Just arrived in Shanghai last night and far too tired to get out for New Years. I've been here before and had even posted about getting taken for one of the inflated bill at the KTV scams. Wound up having a great time in Hong Kong afterwards and am back for another round. I've been RTFF quite a bit and it seems like so much is up in the air with the Expo coming and all.

Staying over by the Longmont on West Yan An Lu. I wandered a few blocks east on West Yan An Lu last night and wandered into a little place advertising massage 24/7. Made my way down a few flights of stairs and for 98 RMB plus 50 RMB tip I had the most mechanical rub and tug ever. After the flight, it wasn't so bad, but am definitely hoping to find something a bit better.

I'm going to go explore today. Thinking of wandering over by Xiaomuquia Lu, maybe the nearby Hotel 168 (think I heard there might be something there), and a few other places I've read about here.

I'm going to go ahead and subscribe so I can receive PMs. If anyone can share some pointers, I'd be most appreciative. I know I've not had a lot of contributions on this forum, but will be more than happy to report back and help out where I can. I'll be here for a month.

Thanks guys and Happy New Years!

[Castl Smith]

Just got back from a week in Shanghai. I did some research before going and started a few conversations with some women on AFF and CL. My hosts also took me to a KTV 2 nights in a row. Here's the deal.

I arrived at the Swissotel. Very nice place. Large rooms and no problem walking a guest through the lobby. I had found an older woman through CL. She posted no pics on CL, but sent me a couple via email. Not too bad, small chest but her english was excellent and she was fun to talk to. So I arranged to have her meet me in the lobby. She showed and I was plesently surprised. About 5'5, very nice figure. Never would have known she had a child. Small titties though, but super sensitive and loved to have them played with. We went up to my room and started talking. She is divorced, 1 kid and recently has started up this "venture" as she called it. She was not all that experienced with he business aspects, but wow. She was definitely into EVERYTHING sexually. Originally I said 2 hrs, but she ended up staying the night and didn't ask for any more. 4 times in the course of 6 hrs. Which is a record for me, but she was really hot and was a lot of fun. Very cool woman. Very interesting tatoo on her back and down her side also. I would definitely recommend if you like them a little older. 1400RMB for the night. A little steep, but she was clean, safe, and a pleasure to be with.

The next night I was treated by my hosts to a KTV. I forget the name, but it was huge. About about 5 floors. Very high end. My hosts asked if I wanted a girl who could come home with me, and of course I said yeah. So the waves of girls started coming in and I picked on who spoke pretty good english. She was about 5'7, long legs, 24 and not bad. But I think I jumped the gun and made my choise too soon after seeing the other ones walking around the building. We played some games, and we all got really drunk. Most of the girls were passed out except mine, who could really drink. I was hitting on the mamansan who could speak some Japanese, and said I wanted to take her home instead. My host said she wasnt available, so I stuck with the girl I had. My host said we can come back tomorrow for mamansan if I'd like.

We all left and my girl and I went back to my hotel. I was pretty drunk, and don't remember too much, but she was fun and had no problem with FS. Unfortunately, I got tired and fell asleep for a few minutes after popping. When I woke up she was quickly getting dressed and ready to leave. I asked why she wouldn't stay and she just said no. I didn't push it and said ok. I said thanks and she left. Not a bad time, but not a great time and not a total stunner like some of the others I saw there.

Here is the thing. When I got up in the morning, I had 2000RMB missing from my pants pocket. I think I know why she was in a hurry to leave. I really didn't expect this from a KTV girl. Luckily everything else was in the safe.

Next day I go back to the office and my host asks if I want to go back. I say sure thing and we hit the same place after work. I guess they have a corporate account or something since my hosts seem to be quite well known there. So my host asks how the night before was. I told him it wasnt great and that she left early. (I didn't mention the money since I didn't want to cause a scene). Well, he made a scene anyways. He gets the girl from the night before and the mamamsan in the room and a whole bunch of yelling is going on. She looks really scared and probably expected me to say something about the money. I guess he asked for some money back since she didn't stay the whole night, but she put up a fight and he finally said forget it. I guess the mamasan gave him some sort of credit to the room or booze or something because he seemed ok. I should mention that my gracious hosts payed for everything.

So this night he says, "I'll find you a good one tonight" and leaves the room. He comes back with a 4'10", 95lb, dark skinned beautiful creature. Total spinner. Hair down to her ass, perfect face, healthy rack and completely smoking. And she spoke good english. So, at that point I don't even care about the KTV and just want to leave with her. They're trying to get me to sing and I'm just looking up mandarin phrases on my blackberry making conversation with her and having fun.

My host say "you got condoms? " I say, I'm out from the night before. So on the ride home, he stop and gets me 2 beers, a couple packages of beef jerky and a box of condoms. What a guy. He's got a customer for life.

We get to the hotel and go though the lobby up to my room. No problem again for the 3rd night with a different woman.

This one is really playful. Got the whole "kawaii" thing going on. Said she was from Ji lin. We looked at Google earth for awhile at her home town and my home town. Very sweet girl, but I think a bit more worldly than she pretended to B. We took a shower and played around, but she was very small and my Mr. Big is a a bit on the thick side, so she was scared and said "I don't think so". We retired to the bed and played around a bit. She would not do oral and really didn't like to kiss too much. I spent a good deal of time down on her, then she climbed on top and worked Mr Big in as best she could. She was so hot and cute, it didn't take me long. Afterwards, she clicked on the TV to one of those stupid game shows and called her friend on the phone and chowed on the beef jerky. She blabbed for about 45 minutes until I got a little pissed and she put the phone down. I started trying to gear up for round 2, but she wasn't having any of that. So after lying there for 20 minutes on the verge of falling asleep, I pointed to the door and said "you should leave". As she's getting dressed, I ask where she lives in Shanghai and she says "very far away". She asks for cab fare and I say "For 1 time? No. " She gets the picture. Now, I know my host paid top dollar for her, and I know he said he paid extra to this one to make sure I had a better time than the night before, so I was kind of pissed at her, but said thanks and good night. She really was one of the hottest in the place that night.

Question to regulars of KTV girls. Is one pop customary? I know my host paid for the entire night 2 times, but they both seem to have decided that was it once the first time was over? If I had know that I would have stretched it out a bit more.

My last night there I called the woman I met my first night. She came over and we had some fun. She definitely likes anal, and I was happy to oblige. Very good at deep throating too. After the first pop, for some reason I started getting a head ache and she started blabbing and would not STFU. I really got tired of listening to her talk about how smart she was and how great the communist party is, so I said she should probably leave and she was quite surprised. To be honest, I just wanted to sleep. So I told her I had asked for 2 hrs, and since it was only a little over an hour, she could decided what she wanted. She said she would only take 1 hr and understood I was tired. I thought that was very nice of her. 700RMB. Again a little high, but she isn't a pro and really seemed to screen her clients well, and I had a good time. I think she may have been out of work and doing this to pay bills, so I didn't mind.

The AFF ones really didn't pan out. I had struck up conversations with 3 between 33 and 42. Seem very nice and if I return, I'll follow up. I'll definitely keep the email converstations going.

Hope this was interesting. I do agree that CL seems plagues with fakes, but this one was real.

CS

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[Adventurous Abc]

Happy New Year to all!

[Relaxedinmd]

Well, I made it over to G18 last night. The place was open; man in the lobby asked me if I wanted massage and led me to the elevators.

I've never experienced something quite like this before and it was a blast. I picked #16 and we went back to the room. She asked me if I wanted two girls and I figured what the hell. She brought in #12 and I accepted. They showered me, laid out the blow up matress and did what I'm assuming you guys call the soapie bit. I managed to get her to let me pop in the shower. We went over to the bed where they proceeded to do the hot water in the mouth thing I've read about. Very enthusiastic and the one let me pick out an outfit for her (nice crouchless fishnet thing). Rimming, blowing, and on and on. Finally got to the main course with #16 and #12 was playing with my balls/ass the whole time. Switched it up and put #12 on top of me while #16 went to work licking my balls. Both were very enthusiastic and both seemed to genuinely want to please me. The only draw back is that my mandarin is virtually nonexistent. That led to some interesting conversations for sure.

#16. Looks were probably in the 8 vicinity. Thin, but not super thin, nice tits, heavenly ass.

#12. Looks about a 7. Smaller tits, super thin, no ass.

I was shocked how long we laid around afterwards with them all cuddled up on me.

All in all a good time, but I'm going to need to find some cheaper options given the amount of time I'm going to be here.

Also, was wondering about the safety of this place. Given all the chatter about closing places down, I just can't imagine being inside something like this in the event of a raid.

[FernandoAlonso]

In China and ISG. I think we make ourselves much too important concerning what we do in China. On a percentage basis I think we maybe, MAYBE??, less than 1/2 of 1%. It is relatively easy to block ISG. Most P4P activity is done by Chinese. In 15 months I have only seen one other white guy in a sauna. And we didn't talk, just waved. Do the numbers. We aren't that important given the P4P scene in China. My pov.mate, of course we are not important, but as you know as much as most of us, in China perception is reality, you make unwanted waves here you get hit. And any P*R*O*X*I*E reported openly here gets shut down fast, as I said so why take the risk?

[FernandoAlonso]

Just got back from a week in Shanghai. I did some research before going and started a few conversations with some women on AFF and CL. My hosts also took me to a KTV 2 nights in a row. Here's the deal.

I arrived at the Swissotel. Very nice place. Large rooms and no problem walking a guest through the lobby. I had found an older woman through CL. She posted no pics on CL, but sent me a couple via email. Not too bad, small chest but her english was excellent and she was fun to talk to. So I arranged to have her meet me in the lobby. She showed and I was plesently surprised. About 5'5, very nice figure. Never would have known she had a child. Small titties though, but super sensitive and loved to have them played with. We went up to my room and started talking. She is divorced, 1 kid and recently has started up this "venture" as she called it. She was not all that experienced with he business aspects, but wow. She was definitely into EVERYTHING sexually. Originally I said 2 hrs, but she ended up staying the night and didn't ask for any more. 4 times in the course of 6 hrs. Which is a record for me, but she was really hot and was a lot of fun. Very cool woman. Very interesting tatoo on her back and down her side also. I would definitely recommend if you like them a little older. 1400RMB for the night. A little steep, but she was clean, safe, and a pleasure to be with.

The next night I was treated by my hosts to a KTV. I forget the name, but it was huge. About about 5 floors. Very high end. My hosts asked if I wanted a girl who could come home with me, and of course I said yeah. So the waves of girls started coming in and I picked on who spoke pretty good english. She was about 5'7, long legs, 24 and not bad. But I think I jumped the gun and made my choise too soon after seeing the other ones walking around the building. We played some games, and we all got really drunk. Most of the girls were passed out except mine, who could really drink. I was hitting on the mamansan who could speak some Japanese, and said I wanted to take her home instead. My host said she wasnt available, so I stuck with the girl I had. My host said we can come back tomorrow for mamansan if I'd like.

We all left and my girl and I went back to my hotel. I was pretty drunk, and don't remember too much, but she was fun and had no problem with FS. Unfortunately, I got tired and fell asleep for a few minutes after popping. When I woke up she was quickly getting dressed and ready to leave. I asked why she wouldn't stay and she just said no. I didn't push it and said ok. I said thanks and she left. Not a bad time, but not a great time and not a total stunner like some of the others I saw there.

Here is the thing. When I got up in the morning, I had 2000RMB missing from my pants pocket. I think I know why she was in a hurry to leave. I really didn't expect this from a KTV girl. Luckily everything else was in the safe.

Next day I go back to the office and my host asks if I want to go back. I say sure thing and we hit the same place after work. I guess they have a corporate account or something since my hosts seem to be quite well known there. So my host asks how the night before was. I told him it wasnt great and that she left early. (I didn't mention the money since I didn't want to cause a scene). Well, he made a scene anyways. He gets the girl from the night before and the mamamsan in the room and a whole bunch of yelling is going on. She looks really scared and probably expected me to say something about the money. I guess he asked for some money back since she didn't stay the whole night, but she put up a fight and he finally said forget it. I guess the mamasan gave him some sort of credit to the room or booze or something because he seemed ok. I should mention that my gracious hosts payed for everything.

So this night he says, "I'll find you a good one tonight" and leaves the room. He comes back with a 4'10", 95lb, dark skinned beautiful creature. Total spinner. Hair down to her ass, perfect face, healthy rack and completely smoking. And she spoke good english. So, at that point I don't even care about the KTV and just want to leave with her. They're trying to get me to sing and I'm just looking up mandarin phrases on my blackberry making conversation with her and having fun.

My host say "you got condoms? " I say, I'm out from the night before. So on the ride home, he stop and gets me 2 beers, a couple packages of beef jerky and a box of condoms. What a guy. He's got a customer for life.

We get to the hotel and go though the lobby up to my room. No problem again for the 3rd night with a different woman.

This one is really playful. Got the whole "kawaii" thing going on. Said she was from Ji lin. We looked at Google earth for awhile at her home town and my home town. Very sweet girl, but I think a bit more worldly than she pretended to B. We took a shower and played around, but she was very small and my Mr. Big is a a bit on the thick side, so she was scared and said "I don't think so". We retired to the bed and played around a bit. She would not do oral and really didn't like to kiss too much. I spent a good deal of time down on her, then she climbed on top and worked Mr Big in as best she could. She was so hot and cute, it didn't take me long. Afterwards, she clicked on the TV to one of those stupid game shows and called her friend on the phone and chowed on the beef jerky. She blabbed for about 45 minutes until I got a little pissed and she put the phone down. I started trying to gear up for round 2, but she wasn't having any of that. So after lying there for 20 minutes on the verge of falling asleep, I pointed to the door and said "you should leave". As she's getting dressed, I ask where she lives in Shanghai and she says "very far away". She asks for cab fare and I say "For 1 time? No. " She gets the picture. Now, I know my host paid top dollar for her, and I know he said he paid extra to this one to make sure I had a better time than the night before, so I was kind of pissed at her, but said thanks and good night. She really was one of the hottest in the place that night.

Question to regulars of KTV girls. Is one pop customary? I know my host paid for the entire night 2 times, but they both seem to have decided that was it once the first time was over? If I had know that I would have stretched it out a bit more.

My last night there I called the woman I met my first night. She came over and we had some fun. She definitely likes anal, and I was happy to oblige. Very good at deep throating too. After the first pop, for some reason I started getting a head ache and she started blabbing and would not STFU. I really got tired of listening to her talk about how smart she was and how great the communist party is, so I said she should probably leave and she was quite surprised. To be honest, I just wanted to sleep. So I told her I had asked for 2 hrs, and since it was only a little over an hour, she could decided what she wanted. She said she would only take 1 hr and understood I was tired. I thought that was very nice of her. 700RMB. Again a little high, but she isn't a pro and really seemed to screen her clients well, and I had a good time. I think she may have been out of work and doing this to pay bills, so I didn't mind.

The AFF ones really didn't pan out. I had struck up conversations with 3 between 33 and 42. Seem very nice and if I return, I'll follow up. I'll definitely keep the email converstations going.

Hope this was interesting. I do agree that CL seems plagues with fakes, but this one was real.

CS

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You stumbled into a few nice dilemmas here, congratulations you still got a lot of fun.

However you may think about the following. If a girl scams you (and I would call it scam what happpened to you) and she gets away with it she will do this again. So even you may have saved your host face eventually if he ever learns what really happened you may result in the opposite.

Stealing by a KTV girl is uncommon but whenever you have someone in your room, keep everything locked, including anything revealing your identity. You must be firm with a girl trying to push you around (leaving early, complaining too big etc. is pushing you around) throw her out, no money and complain to mamasan. It may not get you your money back but the girl gets what she deserves. one pop for the whole night and leaving early is not the rule, but it varies a bit by City and KTV. Also ignore this I live far away, she got more rest than in a usual night.

AFF and CL you should be very cautious, but never believe them a word. The girl you had fun with was 100% a full pro and you overpaid nicely, but hey if you got her to do anal, in China, man you were damn lucky and who cares!

Have fun and keep reporting

FA

[Blacklisted]

In China and ISG. I think we make ourselves much too important concerning what we do in China. On a percentage basis I think we maybe, MAYBE??, less than 1/2 of 1%. It is relatively easy to block ISG. Most P4P activity is done by Chinese. In 15 months I have only seen one other white guy in a sauna. And we didn't talk, just waved. Do the numbers. We aren't that important given the P4P scene in China. My pov.


Personally I believe it is an issue of pride or face, call it what you will. This site gets around - seen articles in local mags etc, on different websites talking about us and what we do.

Chinese guys having sex with Chinese hookers is fine, but for foreigners doing to, and bragging about it, is really considered to be a pretty big insult. So that's one reason why we are important to authorities and worth shutting down places we write about and frequent.

Second and probably more important point is that this site is read by many many people - not contributors to the forum - but lurkers, who would then frequent the places we write about. ONce this happens, local people start to get pissed and then reports are made and places are shut down.

It's only going to get worse in 2010 as well.

PM is the way to go unless you want your favourite place shut down.

Just my liang mao.

[Blacklisted]

I'm going to go ahead and subscribe so I can receive PMs. If anyone can share some pointers, I'd be most appreciative. I know I've not had a lot of contributions on this forum, but will be more than happy to report back and help out where I can. I'll be here for a month.

Thanks guys and Happy New Years!

Once you are signed up, PM me and I will send you hook you up no worries.

[World Guy Sh]

In China and ISG. I think we make ourselves much too important concerning what we do in China. On a percentage basis I think we maybe, MAYBE?, less than 1/2 of 1%. It is relatively easy to block ISG. Most P4P activity is done by Chinese. In 15 months I have only seen one other white guy in a sauna. And we didn't talk, just waved. Do the numbers. We aren't that important given the P4P scene in China. My pov.The authorities do not want China to be another LOS or Phils. People coming here for sex. Anything, and I mean anything, that would even begin to suggest that or encourages it is a no-no for them. Hence anything that is cited here (for the present) and seems to be catering to too many tourists is going to get shut down.

Foreigners with foreigners is OK, foreigners with Chinese. No. That is disrespectful and causes loss of face. It is also not in keeping with the (hypocritically) puritanical beliefs of the CCP.

So, whilst we are a tiny portion of the people who go to these places, the noise this site causes is hugely disproportionate. Most Chinese work on Guanxi, tell their friends about a decent place or use the odd Chiense site. But I challenge any non Chinese speaker to go find one of those. And they know that, so those sites are not a problem.

[OldAsiaHand]

Second and probably more important point is that this site is read by many many people - not contributors to the forum - but lurkers, who would then frequent the places we write about. ONce this happens, local people start to get pissed and then reports are made and places are shut down.

This especially applies to the very local village areas. I don't think they are shutting down the Shanghai Hotel sauna because a bunch of laowais frequent the place. And, we are fooling ourselves if we think LE does not know where all the mongering venues are already and have been turning a blind eye in the past. The problem as you have put it so well is that we stick out like sore thumbs in the local mongering areas. A Chinese guy can walk through unnoticed, however, it is very obvious why we are there especially when the visitor numbers go up. And, many traditional Chinese punters don't like us doing the girls anyway. I have seen many areas get shut because the locals complain.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Catalonian]

What's the problem of looking for pussies while traveling?

Why is this site for?

[Weelock]

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The problem as you have put it so well is that we stick out like sore thumbs in the local mongering areas. A Chinese guy can walk through unnoticed, however, it is very obvious why we are there especially when the visitor numbers go up. And, many traditional Chinese punters don't like us doing the girls anyway. I have seen many areas get shut because the locals complain.

Just my POV.

OAH


I agree with you. Western Foreigners stick out like sore thumbs. They will get noticed walking with a working girl, into a BBS, a sauna or into a area known for prostitution. If you look more Asian, like Korean or Japanese, it would not matter as much because they blend in more.

If the local people in the area noticed more Western foreigners because of prostitution and complain, definitely, LE will shut a place down. There many examples of places that are gone or a shadow of itself.

[Ira Johnson]

I am recently out of a relatively serious relationship with an overseas Chinese girl, and in that time I seem to have lost my edge. So it’s taken me a while to ramp back up to my old methods and ways. I’m here to report that the old ways still work just fine for me.

This is freebie stuff, but requires some dating and time spent communicating. It’s easier to pay a girl – and less dramatic because she will LEAVE – but there are rewards to be had in this method.

The classifieds websites are always hit and miss, and CL is a nightmare of falsehood. Long ago I had a few nights of wallet-draining disappointment because I believed that I could find the diamond in the rough like Castl Smith. Instead, I discovered the joys of enjoyshanghai. English speakers who know the score and realize that sex is part of the package with us Western guys.

I stay away from the ‘women seeking men’ column – instead, I focus on ‘language exchange’ and ‘farewell.’ ‘Farewell’ is more drama laden, often girls fed up with guys like us, but a little sympathetic sweet talk and it is off and running. “Language exchange” connected me with a butter-face from Inner Mongolia with a body that just does not quit. It took a few chats on MSN and listening to “I don’t want ONS” but within a week she was on my sofa begging me “do that again… ” She is leaving Shanghai soon, and she is sad about this hard town – she could use some comfort, guys… PM me if you have some clever ideas of how you can explain that you have her MSN info but are just now chatting with her…

The best was from an ad I placed, though. I just wrote out this romantic, vaguely pornographic fantasy from a chick’s POV (they all want to be the hens on Sex and the City), and the mail just flooded in. Cybersex seemed to be the order of the day, and NSA was offered, but it seemed a little weird. I want to share with you about the one I did wind up with.

She responded on the website in kind, answering my ad with thoughts of her own. Eventually we began chatting on the phone, and I learned she is 22, from South China, a virgin (!!) and ‘falling for me.’ She wanted to wait until we met to see one another, no photo exchange, and the talks got serious quick. I don’t need that 1-2 drama punch, so I let her go. A few days later I was contacted by a 26 year old cynic who sent me a cute photo, described that an American guy had fucked her and run, so she did not trust anyone. She asked me about who I’d met on there, and I was honest (to a point) about the 22 year old’s drama. Miss 26 asked to meet me on New Year’s Eve, but refused to give me her phone number. Eventually I put it together – THEY WERE THE SAME GIRL.

Look, if a girl is going to adopt a new identity for another try with me, she is crazy. I am not that special. But some of you may know – crazy sex is awesome sex, so I chose to risk it.

She fell all over herself apologizing for the lie. She was as she first said, a virgin, from South of China, and not 22 – 21! She will turn 22 next week. She wanted me to be the first, and she insisted that she knew I could not offer her assurances of permanence.

She was cute, but scorching. Tight little body, perfectly proportioned spinner with milky skin and freckles. She demanded a kiss right away, and she was a LOUSY kisser – for about 5 minutes. Seems she learns quickly.

After we met my pals at the club, we kissed at midnight and went home. She was terrified but tried hard. Amazing body, nice handfuls of breast, little bubble ass (which is surprising among Chinese girls), and really close to being a white tiger. Boy, does she take instruction well. I had to wash the sheets because, yes, she was a virgin, but after the first couple times there was no blood. The best part was watching the light bulb go off behind her eyes when she realized SHE LIKED IT. She wanted to try everything, like a kid on Christmas morning, and I rediscovered the joy of introducing a girl to sex. She even showed interest in anal, but I’d penetrated enough difficult barriers for one night – I’ll save that.

Six times. In one night. I felt like a rock star. (For those of you that know me, of COURSE I used my own product – I had to – and I washed it down with Gatorade). Each time after we finished, she demanded “again, again” – I felt like a piece of meat!

Next weekend is her birthday and we’ll explore new areas. Yes, I see the drama coming – she considers me her boyfriend and is throwing around the ‘L’ word. However, the sex is so worth it and I am preparing for the eventual dramatic finale.

I’ll share my Mongol gal with senior contributing members if you can provide a plausible explanation you can give her for how you got her contact info. She’s a good girl and needs comfort and the ego boost of being attractive to a guy, but do not hurt her. She’ll be leaving Shanghai soon to return to Inner M, so act now.

The little Jinx spinner is all mines – sorry guys.

[Blacklisted]

What's the problem of looking for pussies while traveling?

Why is this site for?

Simple answer - nothing at all. That's why we're here. Fact of the matter is, China is a different market and if you read back through a few years of postings you will know Shanghai is changing dramatically and at a rapid rate, similar to Beijing last year during the Olympics.

We are watching out for our interests here a bit and keeping the real stuff between true contributors and away from lurkers simply for survival.

We all hope it will return to it's former glory after the Expo, but we're also not holding our breath.

There is always gonna be P4P here, but it's gonna become super covert.

It's not really even been a sex tourism place, as WGS mentioned, and never will be. It's a more challenging environment to monger in, but in many ways, that is what makes it all the more satisfying.

Just my liang kuai.

[Facial Worship]

Contex mentioned about this place the other day, I'm going to make a trip out there this week to see what it's like. The address is actually Shenzhu Lu 688, not Xinzhu Lu, 莘朱路688号. They also have a website .sh868. not sure i am allowed to mention it but these words will give you the idea.

Get back to you next week with a report.

[JoyofSex]

Hello all,

I have been really quiet recently first of all since I think only few new reports can really add something (I tend to go to G18 and Sacrosa) and second I do not want to draw much attention to the places I go to. Still, the current discussion keeps me wondering for a solution: On the one hand we do not want to give the the LE any reason to shut down our place (and be frank, with the number of reports about G18 that place would be next), on the other for people like me who come back every 6-8 weeks for a one-week stay it is hard without any intelligence (e.g. is a place open and "safe").

Any idea how to solve this?

For my past experience, I have been in town last time in early December and G18 was of course open. I hesisted the first days to go there but finally could not resist. Service at 1 after midnight was ok and since I liked the girl I thought a second visit (and time with her) would improve the experience. When I got there around midnight, however, the place seemed to be closed. All lights out except for the elevator, no guy down there. I curiously walked inside and looked around. The camera did not seem to work and the elevator neither so finally I decided to leave, wondering what was going on.

Just as I went back to the street I heared voices and saw two chinese guys being let out by an employee. I asked that dude if the place was closed but instead he indicated me to follow him. We walked through a door in the rear wall of the downstairs lobby and up the stairs which were only lit by his flashlight (btw they all looked really rubbish). We ended up in the lobby and I was treated normally from there on (had to wait for my girl for 20mins but service again was OK)... pretty strange!

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[Jamie5063]

I she demanded “again, again” – I felt like a piece of meat!


You have to be a man to know how good that feels. Great report with good advice. We have been talking about the merits and disadvantages of saying your married or with girlfriend just wondered what the situation is with her. I had a 21 year old talk to me this weekend on QQ wondered if its worth the trouble, I suppose its like power ball your never going to win but somebody gets the jackpot.

[Ira Johnson]

... wondered if its worth the trouble, I suppose its like power ball your never going to win but somebody gets the jackpot.

Well, there is trouble, a little drama. She says "I love you" and will not rest until I answer in kind. When I say it's too soon for us to be exchanging those words, she says not to think too much and that she is a big girl.

Remember, you have to subtract 10 years from the actual age to get the rough equivalent of the emotional age in this country.

Oh, hell, though - she has started sending me explicit text messages now. She wants to be 'my little ****.' Well, let the drama come - for now I will just enjoy being Superman.

[Contex01]

Just a small word of caution about 868. Went there a few days ago and seems it's under new management. More "nightclubbish" with blaring Chinese disco. Still quite empty save for the girls that work there.

The annoying thing is there was a local youngish guy with an 80's peroxide victim hairstyle who introduced himself to my friend and I as the manager of the joint. When a couple of girls came to talk to us he tried pushing us to go to a private room with the ladies for an additional 200. I tried to find out what kind of service they would provide for the price but he didn't really do a good job of selling the idea. "just talk make friend" is not worth it. All in all, I found the guy very irritating and intrusive, and the girls didn't really seem thrilled by his presence as he was taking a "hands on" approach asking them to run around pretending to have a good time.

I haven't given up on the place and would love to pay another visit. If nothing, there are plenty of BBS's and half-saunas in the area so the trip would be worthwhile.

[Contex01]

Nice post Ira about the online pursuits. I've had some interesting experiences with them over the years, ranging from excellent freebies to downright nutcases. A couple of years ago I had one I met on Skype. Very cute girl from Anhui with virtually no English and her idea was for us to do language exchange. One Saturday morning, out of the blue she called me and asked if I wanted to meet. Within 2 hours of meeting, after a brief lunch, SHE, not me, suggested we go to my pace and "watch film". Next thing I know she's apologizing for her "aunty" visiting and without prompting proceeds to give me a nice BJ. I saw her a couple more times and we always had loads of fun, until one day she asked me if she could live in my apartment for two months, and in return she would "help me". I had to gently explain it's out of the question and it seemed okay until a three or four day session of "shock and awe" persistent texting and calling at all hours. Eventually, she calmed down and I'm guessing she found another sucker. Moral of the story. Crazy sex from crazy girls is fun in a rodeo/drunken poker type of way. Just know when to get off.

I find Skype tends to be a nice way of finding freebie's, especially because Chinese women lose their inhibitions more easily when they're online. Meaningful conversation and communication is a tad bit ambitious, but you'd be surprised how things change once you've made small talk at random times over an extended period. Sometimes they land in your lap, so to speak, and I personally trust webcams much more than pics. Also, it's quite convenient for finding bored housewives, professional ladies with little time and energy for bars, or out of towners.

Happy hunting and keep the online adventure tales coming

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[Laowei137]

With the directions in hand from Nightwing88 a few pages below this posting I went and visited Heting Elite on SiPing Lu 777

I would like to add a few pointers to his report (thanks again Nightwing) which might help clarify some things for those who will visit the place for the first time, because, the operation is just a tad different then you're used to:

1. If you take the subway, take the number 8 line and get off at SiPing Road. Take the number 1 exit out of the subway station. When leaving the exit on top, take a right 90 degree turn: You are now facing SiPing Lu (the road that is currently under construction, like half Shanghai is) Go right and cross the street, you will have a KTV on your righthand side. Walk a bit further, cross another street and right in front of you you will see Heting Elite. You recognose it from the BIG yellow letters "HETING ELITE" on the display on the 3rd floor.

2. If you enter, you will be taken to a private room with a few massage chairs and your own private locker. A guy will help you undress and put your things inside the locker. You will receive a arm bracelet with your room number.

3. After undressing, the guy will walk you to a shower area: Shower. After you are finished, some guys will help you dry yourself and you will be brought back to your room.

4. Your room has 2 doors: 1 door that you came in from (from the outside) and 1 door which you have taken to goto the shower section. Right next to the entry door there's a blue button, push it! The button will now be lit.

5. Someone will come and bring you some refreshments and will ask you if you want a massage (AnMo) indiacte yes. He will leave again and leave you with your refreshements.

6. Push the blue button again to signal you are ready. Be patient, you are here to relax, they will not forget you, but you will have to indicate them you are ready for the next step by pushing that button.

7. A person in a suit will come in and take you to another area where there will be 5 girls for you to choose. Lined up from tall to short. Make your pick, or indicate you want another selection. The girl will take your hand and guide you through the rest of the process. Enjoy.

8. At the end of the deed the girl will bring you back to the first section, there you will shower again and be brought back to your room. There will be some tea and a nice fruit selection or fruit soup for you waiting.

Personally I think the setup of HeTing is very nice, but the sauna section is a bit. Limited. Only showers (nice daylight lightening!) a small square bath and a heat-sauna. On the way out I noticed also a scrub table. But that was about it. I would have expected at least some bubbly thingies. HeTing doesn't hide it's business IMO, but no worries, LE will know about any sauna, BBS and other business of this kind anyway: They don; t care as long as they receive their HongBou. (a LE officer.not in uniform, but dropped off by a LE minivan- entered the place together with me and smiled when he entered the room right next to me, and again when we met in the shower area)

This experience also gave me something to add to the "number of pops discussion". How many pops is up to yourself. The girls just work a program and in this "program" there's only 1 pop included. You need to take charge to get the max out of it. Today my girl gave me 4 pops. We tried number 5, but. I'm not a young god anymore. I entered at 16. 00 and left at around 17. 30 and usually I would go out and get me a all-nighter. But I'm to knackered currently. She did a good job.

- Location:

HeTing Elite, SiPing Lu 777

- Girls number:

156, middle lenght, I'd say 1. 55 meters high, A-cup (big nipples) and medium sized butts (that's "big" in Chinese terms)

- performance:

Top GFE! DFK, continually, BBBJ-CIM (she swallowed), no anal (I tried), 4 shots (couldn't get 5th off). Handed me her phone number.

- cost

798, but when I mentioned I didn't needed the VaPiau it dropped to 598

On a side note: I saw a fellow LaoWan when I exited with his shorts still on in the shower area. The attendant motioned the shorts had to go. And the LoaWan said "no way! " I couldn't help but giggle.

Oh, and please, if a place shuts down, please remember the following before shouting that the LE took "controll" or "forced" them. Chinese, the local clientelle, favour "new" above anything. Many places will be shut down for a few months after a period of 1, 5-2 years of operation to get a "redecoration". Sometimes this redecoration is. Just a few people banging hammers and nails for a few months so the clientelle gets the feeling the place is "new" again. Sauna's and BBS and KTV's are a part of Chinese culture and altho they might be pushed by the National Gov to seize operation for a period when there's a big international event going on: Olympics or Expo, the customers are still there, the girls are still there, the bosses are still there: they just move a bit, they don't disappear. Just North of the Railway station currently for example is BBS-heaven. Every street has at least 5 of them.

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[Lukewarm]

Hi all,

Find myself with a day/early evening in Shanghia staying at Renaissance Yangtze.

As Shanghia is not my normal stomping ground could anybody tell me if the hotel if gf?

I would also appreciate it if anybody has any recomendations that are close to this hotel?

Any info would be greatly apprecaited.

Tia, Luke

[Beijing Fox]

I re-visited HaiLong Sauna two nights ago.

The place was ghastly empty. In the past there were always about 20 punters around, this time I saw only two.

Considering the reports about G18 and what I've hear from friends, it looks like the crack down for the Exposition has already started.

have you noticed, seen, expereinced anything?






With the directions in hand from Nightwing88 a few pages below this posting I went and visited Heting Elite on SiPing Lu 777

I would like to add a few pointers to his report (thanks again Nightwing) which might help clarify some things for those who will visit the place for the first time, because, the operation is just a tad different then you're used to:

1. If you take the subway, take the number 8 line and get off at SiPing Road. Take the number 1 exit out of the subway station. When leaving the exit on top, take a right 90 degree turn: You are now facing SiPing Lu (the road that is currently under construction, like half Shanghai is) Go right and cross the street, you will have a KTV on your righthand side. Walk a bit further, cross another street and right in front of you you will see Heting Elite. You recognose it from the BIG yellow letters "HETING ELITE" on the display on the 3rd floor.

2. If you enter, you will be taken to a private room with a few massage chairs and your own private locker. A guy will help you undress and put your things inside the locker. You will receive a arm bracelet with your room number.

3. After undressing, the guy will walk you to a shower area: Shower. After you are finished, some guys will help you dry yourself and you will be brought back to your room.

4. Your room has 2 doors: 1 door that you came in from (from the outside) and 1 door which you have taken to goto the shower section. Right next to the entry door there's a blue button, push it! The button will now be lit.

5. Someone will come and bring you some refreshments and will ask you if you want a massage (AnMo) indiacte yes. He will leave again and leave you with your refreshements.

6. Push the blue button again to signal you are ready. Be patient, you are here to relax, they will not forget you, but you will have to indicate them you are ready for the next step by pushing that button.

7. A person in a suit will come in and take you to another area where there will be 5 girls for you to choose. Lined up from tall to short. Make your pick, or indicate you want another selection. The girl will take your hand and guide you through the rest of the process. Enjoy.

8. At the end of the deed the girl will bring you back to the first section, there you will shower again and be brought back to your room. There will be some tea and a nice fruit selection or fruit soup for you waiting.

Personally I think the setup of HeTing is very nice, but the sauna section is a bit. Limited. Only showers (nice daylight lightening!) a small square bath and a heat-sauna. On the way out I noticed also a scrub table. But that was about it. I would have expected at least some bubbly thingies. HeTing doesn't hide it's business IMO, but no worries, LE will know about any sauna, BBS and other business of this kind anyway: They don; t care as long as they receive their HongBou. (a LE officer.not in uniform, but dropped off by a LE minivan- entered the place together with me and smiled when he entered the room right next to me, and again when we met in the shower area)

This experience also gave me something to add to the "number of pops discussion". How many pops is up to yourself. The girls just work a program and in this "program" there's only 1 pop included. You need to take charge to get the max out of it. Today my girl gave me 4 pops. We tried number 5, but. I'm not a young god anymore. I entered at 16. 00 and left at around 17. 30 and usually I would go out and get me a all-nighter. But I'm to knackered currently. She did a good job.

- Location:

HeTing Elite, SiPing Lu 777

- Girls number:

156, middle lenght, I'd say 1. 55 meters high, A-cup (big nipples) and medium sized butts (that's "big" in Chinese terms)

- performance:

Top GFE! DFK, continually, BBBJ-CIM (she swallowed), no anal (I tried), 4 shots (couldn't get 5th off). Handed me her phone number.

- cost

798, but when I mentioned I didn't needed the VaPiau it dropped to 598

On a side note: I saw a fellow LaoWan when I exited with his shorts still on in the shower area. The attendant motioned the shorts had to go. And the LoaWan said "no way! " I couldn't help but giggle.

Oh, and please, if a place shuts down, please remember the following before shouting that the LE took "controll" or "forced" them. Chinese, the local clientelle, favour "new" above anything. Many places will be shut down for a few months after a period of 1, 5-2 years of operation to get a "redecoration". Sometimes this redecoration is. Just a few people banging hammers and nails for a few months so the clientelle gets the feeling the place is "new" again. Sauna's and BBS and KTV's are a part of Chinese culture and altho they might be pushed by the National Gov to seize operation for a period when there's a big international event going on: Olympics or Expo, the customers are still there, the girls are still there, the bosses are still there: they just move a bit, they don't disappear. Just North of the Railway station currently for example is BBS-heaven. Every street has at least 5 of them.

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[Davidlaolee]

This is my first report so be gentle haha.

Anyways, after reading about the location of Heting Elite, I decided to go for a little exploration. Taking line 8 of the Metro, I got off at Siping Road station. From the directions I had with me, I was confused and with my poor navigational skills, I spent about 30 minutes walking in the wrong directions before I caved and asked a street cleaner which way I should go. After finding the building and walking in, I was eagerly approached by two young males who asked me something in Chinese but I couldn't understand. After a little bit of confusion, they finally understood what I wanted and led me to the elevator. The doors opened at level 3 and upon walking out of the elevator I saw the reception area of what seemed to be a very clean and professional establishment. The décor of the place reminded me of a very upper-class bar or a high class hotel.

I approached the desk and after some more confusing Chinese discussion was told that it would cost me 600RMB for 70mins (I came in at around 4:00pm on a Saturday). I graciously agreed and was led to another much brighter room, with whitish walls, several reclining chairs, a large plasma TV and a small area with lockers to store your belongings. I got changed and was led into the shower area where I quickly bathed, wrapped myself in a rope and returned to the same white room. Within a few minutes I was given a few slices of watermelon and a cup of Chinese tea, whilst I waited and relaxed on one of the chairs. It felt like around 15 minutes before another guy asked me if I wanted to see the girls now. I said yes and we walked down a red hallway to the selection that they had available at the time which was only 1 girl 1 vietnamese girl (numbered 125). Well, not to state the obvious but I wasn't entirely pleased. Not that this girl was bad (probably around a 7) but I was looking for something a little more 'from China' so to speak.

As this was my first time trying anything like this I agreed and the girl led me to a room. Inside the room, I got a better look at the girl I had chosen. The scantily dressed clothes she was wearing didn't do her body justice. She wore a bra and panties covered by a thin, see through dress that looked like something you would wear to sleep in. I was pretty nervous so I laid on the bed as she got undressed. Her body was slim in general but her ass was a little on the bigger side, along with her legs. Her breasts were on the smallish side (probably a be cup) and although she told me she was 22, I estimate she was probably at least 24 if not older. Her face was nice, good smooth skin but again, nothing too amazing. None the less, we both knew what I wanted so we wasted no time. She started off with the hot water routine (having a mouthful of warm to hottish water and kind of slurping it all over your body). She seemed to be turned on by my hard cock so after 5 minutes of working my body she took another mouthful of water and started sucking my cock. The water made the first suck soooo good, almost felt like popping right there and then. But the temperature of the water in her mouth quickly cooled and it was back to a regular BBBJ. Soon after she took out a condom and slowly put it on me. Me, not being very sexually experienced, let her take charge. We started off with a little cow girl, before she moved her legs in a squatting position to get better leverage. To be honest, she looked like she knew what she was doing and had heaps of energy. With each thrust she let out a loud moan which was a turn on.

A few minutes later she put her arms around my neck and leaned back, bringing me into missionary position (my favourite position). I soon popped and we rested, cuddling each other as she stroked my cock. I asked to extend the time by 30 minutes so we could take things a little slower. She gave me another massage but this time it was much more extensive. She did the hot water routine but literally sucked every part of my body, from fingers to toes and even did that thing where they cover your big toe with a condom and sit on it (didn't do anything for me though). Frankly, although the sucking of my toes felt good, after that, I didn't want to kiss her anymore put me off big time, especially knowing that she does that for every guy. She then gave me another BBBJ and then we went for round 2. Although the sex felt great I failed to pop this time. We tried several positions, including ones I've never done before, but alas, nothing happened.

When our time was up, we got dressed and she led me to the shower room where I took another shower, gathered my things and paid my bill. All up it was 800 RMB, which is probably on the pricy side perhaps, but it was a good experience none the less. I was disappointed with the selection and since mine was so limited, I can't comment on the range of girls (although I will probably go back another time to see if they have a larger range). It probably was my fault for going so early, I would suspect say around 7 – 8pm, they would have a larger range.

The rooms themselves are very clean and everything looks well maintained. The staff are friendly and very welcoming, despite our language difficulties. The manager whom assisted me was Lei Zhou. He's probably around 5'10" and wears glasses. Very polite and tries to make you feel comfortable. I would definitely recommend the place if you are going for something more relaxing than just a quick pop. With the way the whole thing is laid out, it's obvious they trying to really give you a relaxing, stress free experience.

David

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[Mike666]

Personally I think the setup of HeTing is very nice, but the sauna section is a bit. Limited. Only showers (nice daylight lightening!) a small square bath and a heat-sauna. On the way out I noticed also a scrub table. But that was about it. I would have expected at least some bubbly thingies. HeTing doesn't hide it's business IMO, but no worries, LE will know about any sauna, BBS and other business of this kind anyway: They don; t care as long as they receive their HongBou. (a LE officer.not in uniform, but dropped off by a LE minivan- entered the place together with me and smiled when he entered the room right next to me, and again when we met in the shower area)



Thanks for the great report. Heting should give you a discount for it. I had the same experience but with dudes in military fatigues in a pudong sauna. I guess they were either soldiers or paramilitary cops. No one said anything out of ordinary and those boys just acted like two punters looking for a good time. I left before I had a chance to see whether they paid or had a free meal.

Now if you don't mind, could you advise whether this place offers soapie or red rope? Cheers

[OldAsiaHand]

Hi all,

Find myself with a day/early evening in Shanghia staying at Renaissance Yangtze.

As Shanghia is not my normal stomping ground could anybody tell me if the hotel if gf?

I would also appreciate it if anybody has any recomendations that are close to this hotel?

Any info would be greatly apprecaited.

Tia, Luke

Lukewarm,

I've stayed there several time and the hotel is 100% girl friendly. That said, there is not much action in the general vicinity except you can get a massage with HE at the massage joint in the building across the street.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Vulcan X]

Just back in town, went to the Village. Everything is gone, no more pink lights, no more girls parading in mini-skirts.

Walked around for about 10mins, was approached by a random middle aged person asking if I wanted a girl. Hopped in his car, and taken to a hotel 5min away and led into a room with 3 girls. Not that great, but since it was late took one home for 300RMB for 2 shots. Gotta say, I miss the old days where you could window shop before making a choice.

Can anyone point me to where other BBS's are?

[Laowei137]

Thanks for the great report. Heting should give you a discount for it.

Now if you don't mind, could you advise whether this place offers soapie or red rope? CheersThey kind of did. The VaPiao was 798, I only had to pay 598. I'm not disappointed by it. BBS, KTV and Sauna are just a part of Chinese culture and LE members live (and experience) that same culture, so you WILL run into LE and Gov. Members in those places (maybe not BBS.)

No Soapie or Red Rope at HeTing as far as I know. At least, that's what I expect, I never let a girl do her "routine" but take charge. The apparatus for a soapie or any attachements on the ceiling for red rope aren't there, so I guess it's not part of the normal service. But hey. You can pick her up, spin her upside-down and do your own "red rope".


I re-visited HaiLong Sauna two nights ago.

The place was ghastly empty. In the past there were always about 20 punters around, this time I saw only two.

Considering the reports about G18 and what I've hear from friends, it looks like the crack down for the Exposition has already started.

Have you noticed, seen, expereinced anything?HeTing was not realy empty. 2 punters in the showers when I arrived and 2 came in when I was showering afterwards.

I visited G18 this evening and as far as I saw it was okayish. 2 punters already in the dressing rooms when I arrived. 2 punters just came into the fishbowl when I was leaving. And when I was dressing up again 2 guys came into the dressing room from outside and 1 person just came back from the inside.

The only real thing I noticed about a "crackdown" was that the strip of bars at the end of TongRen Lu was closed, at least, every bar closed and the entrances fenced with those "expo 2010 commercial thingie walls". I had a quick look over them and the inventory still seemed the be inside everywhere, so it's just a temporary "refurbishment". Judy's at the begin of the street (oposate of the Kerry center) is still open. Didn't have the energy to go inside tho, the girl in G18 drained me completelly.

[Waiyaki]

Gents,

I will be in Shanghai shortly. Are there places locally I can go buy my favorite condoms?

Trojan magnum ecstasy - these puppies make me feel like I am wearing nothing.

If so, can you kindly advise?

I cannot come in with them due to who I am traveling with.

Thanks in advance.

[BionicMan]

This is my first report so be gentle haha.

.....
The rooms themselves are very clean and everything looks well maintained. The staff are friendly and very welcoming, despite our language difficulties. The manager whom assisted me was Lei Zhou. He's probably around 5'10" and wears glasses. Very polite and tries to make you feel comfortable. I would definitely recommend the place if you are going for something more relaxing than just a quick pop. With the way the whole thing is laid out, it's obvious they trying to really give you a relaxing, stress free experience.

David

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Nice report
not agaist you but i cannot believe they had a selection of ONE... That is not a selection but an imposition
Would be weird if they have one girl only, as how to handle the next customer?
Most likely the establishement works on offering one girl at a time.
Happens in many places, especially if they feel there is a newby in front of them. Makes life easier (for all of them!)
If you did not like her, they bring another one and this can go on for 3-4 times.
As you accepted her, that was sufficient for them.
Next time try to motion for another one.

[BionicMan]

Hello all,

I have been really quiet recently first of all since I think only few new reports can really add something (I tend to go to G18 and Sacrosa) and second I do not want to draw much attention to the places I go to. Still, the current discussion keeps me wondering for a solution: On the one hand we do not want to give the the LE any reason to shut down our place (and be frank, with the number of reports about G18 that place would be next), on the other for people like me who come back every 6-8 weeks for a one-week stay it is hard without any intelligence (e.g. is a place open and "safe").

Any idea how to solve this?

For my past experience, I have been in town last time in early December and G18 was of course open. I hesisted the first days to go there but finally could not resist. Service at 1 after midnight was ok and since I liked the girl I thought a second visit (and time with her) would improve the experience. When I got there around midnight, however, the place seemed to be closed. All lights out except for the elevator, no guy down there. I curiously walked inside and looked around. The camera did not seem to work and the elevator neither so finally I decided to leave, wondering what was going on.

Just as I went back to the street I heared voices and saw two chinese guys being let out by an employee. I asked that dude if the place was closed but instead he indicated me to follow him. We walked through a door in the rear wall of the downstairs lobby and up the stairs which were only lit by his flashlight (btw they all looked really rubbish). We ended up in the lobby and I was treated normally from there on (had to wait for my girl for 20mins but service again was OK)... pretty strange!

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As debated here before I do no think LE is learning much from our reports.
They definetely know more than what we know.
All these places, btw, do not have clear signs where a foreigners can pick up they are MP's (99% of the cases), but the outdoor signs do tell a lot to chinese.
They might be disappointed there are a lot of talks about these establishements in a foreigner community (ISG) and that does not look nice to the eyes of the politicians running the country, since they have the perception we (foreigners = tourists) see Shangai (etc) just as a mongering location = a brothel city.
In a few words: no good for the image.
I was once summoned by a policeman in the outskirts of Dubai since i was taking a picture of a camel (with garbage around)
I could care the less for the garbage as my picture was of the head of the camel. None the less, the policeman threaten me to take my camera as I was taking picture "no good for the image of the country".
Something similar is on the mongering side.
Rather than not talking about lcoations, the best is to keep a low profile and not shouting it loud:) but still talk about.
So all will be happy:we get the info and the police will not get reports (from newspapers, tv reports, maybe very normal citizenships being asked by visiting friends) that everybody talks of Shangai as a mongering city.

Just my two cents

[Davidlaolee]

Nice report

Not agaist you but I cannot believe they had a selection of ONE. That is not a selection but an imposition

Would be weird if they have one girl only, as how to handle the next customer?

Most likely the establishement works on offering one girl at a time.

Happens in many places, especially if they feel there is a newby in front of them. Makes life easier (for all of them!)

If you did not like her, they bring another one and this can go on for 3-4 times.

As you accepted her, that was sufficient for them.

Next time try to motion for another one. haha thanks for the tip. Yer I am new to all this so I have no idea how things should work, plus I was a little nervous. Next time I'll try to ask for another girl and if they say they don't have anymore I'll either wait or just tell them I don't want a massage. I am not used to the way things are done in China (people trying to scam you etc.)

[Contex01]

I think the main thing authorities fear is excess attention and the Maoming syndrome. Those of you who remember the days of Maoming lu recall it was the place that had some kind of debauchery going on ANY night of the week, and no matter what you were into, you could find or at least seek it there. Tongren lu tried but never quite succeeded in creating that kind of atmosphere. Great for us mongerers, but a nightmare for those concerned with the 'face' and image of the city.

B2, for example, was shut and shut hard because of its very public location and the sheer number of foreigners that would frequent it. It was shut so hard that I believe there's an English training center in its place now. I do believe if the establishments don't overstep their presence and of course pay their dues, they tend to be left alone and function within the greater community.

A village I've mongered through a few times has LE on patrol throughout the night, with their high beams and everything. The area is crawling with BBS's, KTV's, and it's very obvious, but it's in the interest of the LE to keep it contained there and ensure operations are running trouble free so as not to disturb "citizens". Surely, there must be financial rewards to the (I'm)proper authorities to ensure it all runs harmoniously. When Obama visited, or on similar occasions, they perform little fire drills in certain areas, and I think this year will be fairly lean for public mongering, considering the expo hype.

I'm personally reluctant to give too much detail on locations of spots simply because it would be a shame for them to attract too much attention too soon, and mobs of laowai would certainly change the dynamics.

On a sidenote but related, I once talked to a BBS girl regarding this issue, and at first she was like, "nope, nothing to worry about unless you're in pudong or jing'an", but then added that there are some places where the owner will set up customers in order for them to get fined, after which the local LE and the owner split the profits. Sounded a bit like an urban myth, but considering I was a bit stoned, naked inside a BBS, I thought it'd be better to just collect my things and leave. This was not helped by her urging me to stay. It was highly unusual considering usually BBS attendants tend to be happy to see you leave ASAP, and are not too chatty and friendly. As I was walking out of the place, I saw flashing lights RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DOOR! My heart stopped and all I could do was reach for my phone and keep walking. Another car passed by, and seemed to pay no attention whatsoever. It certainly put me off from mongering for a while.

Anyway, my 2 jao is be safe and try to understand the environment you're in.

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[Davidlaolee]

Anyway, my 2 jao is be safe and try to understand the environment you're in.
Wow, that's pretty scary. Do the LEers crack down on the patrons of BBSs too? or just the establishment itself? Would I be correct in saying that KTVs and nightclubs are a safer way to find a WG?

[Davidlaolee]

BTW, I forgot to ask in the last post, what are the pickings like during the Chinese new year period? That is, do the amount of girls in KTVs, BBSs etc. Reduce during the Chinese new year period?

[Laowei137]

g18

yesterday visited g18 at around 19.00 hours. the sauna setups in shanghai are realy a treat to the ones i visited in other places: the rooms, the girls, the presentation, however i do miss the real sauna facilities: i do like to rest a bit and enjoy the relaxation before the action.

there was no outside lightening at golden 18, but there is a sign outside (unlit) over the doorway. as said before there's a bank with 3 atm booths right next to it. inside is a guy standing behind a small speech-type counter that's dressed more or less like an oldfashined doorman (long coat) that lead me upon entering to the elevator and pressed the 5th floor for me.

there's a shared dressing room, shower was not offered to me, get help getting undressed, put on a pair of sauna clothies and then you are brought through a door to a fishbowl area.

the hostess asured me the girls couldn't see the customer. somehow i doubt that, but anyway, a selection of 15 girls to pick. only one stood out for me and it was a good choise. off to the room: nice big room with a large shower area (soapie inflatable air-matrass apparatus available, aswell as a queening chair: a chair you can sit on and the girl can lie below you to do some rimming), a big round waterbed, mirror on the ceiling, big lcd tv with porn. nice touch: between the bed and the tv they've placed a fish-bowl type of thing in the floor, that way you can see the reflection of the tv in that fishbowl when you lie on your back and look into the ceiling mirror. no side mirrors like in heting, nor anything like red ropes for those interested.

my choise was number 33, a nice looking 26 year old harbin girl with slightly larger hips then the others in the bowl. she also looked more interested then the others. we skipped the soapie and all other routine, so that might be the reason why there wasn't a complmentary extra girl i have been reading about. thank god i brought my own shaving equipment with me in the waterproof pocket, so i could shave in the shower area of the room. the girl held a hand mirror, it was so cute to see her peek around the mirror to look at me shaving. 90 minutes of love making and 4 pops later we showered and i was brought back outside.

something i didn't like is that in g18 you are brought back outside again via the fishbowl area. when i arrived there there were already 2 customers making their picks. that felt... kind of odd, and i felt like waiting back a bit for the gents to pick and go, but the girl and the hostess assured me it was no problem...

nice touch at the end: dressboy did clean my dusty shoes for me.

damage: 880 rmb, i did drink a coke in the room, not sure if that was free or if i was charged for it.

on my way to tongren road, when i was passing the shanghai nr.1 restaurant, some guys came out (two guys holding one very very very drunk person) and brought him to a ready standing le car and nicelly put him in the seat next to the driver. the 2 escorts went into the back seat. the car then drove in the direction of wulumuqi road and took a right turn... thinking about my experience the day before, i walked a bit back and looked around the corner and lo-and-behold... the drunk "guest" was dropped off, with his escorts, at g18... i love this country ;-)



today i went to heting again at 19.00 hour. the place was packed full with punters, altho there was only one car parked outside. i was given a 5-person room because all the 2-, 3- and 4-person rooms were all taken.

the square bath in the shower area does have bubbles by the way. still what i've seen from shanghai sauna's so far the sauna areas are a bit underdone.

i wanted a 3-some, so i picked number 156 again (made a phone reservation) and told her to make a selection of a 2nd girl. hint: never do that, better yet, just forget about 3-somes all thogether. it is some fun, but also a turn-off, for me at least, because the intimacy i like to create just doesn't work. got 3 pops: bbbj cim and one in each girl.

she brought in number 205. her sister, real sister in this case: they showed me their id's to prove it because i couldn't believe it... same family name, same hometown, same body build, 5 years of age difference. this time it took some time for them to loosen up, number 205 i would do again solo, great kisser, imo better then her sister.

damage: a whooping 1298 rmb for the two girls (excluding the vapiao, 1398 including vapiao)

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[Stegram]

Hey Laowei. Thanks for the great reports. I want to say 2 things about your most recent.

1. The girls at G18 CAN see you through the fishbowl. When I was last there, I selected my choice, and the other girls all started giggling. When I asked why, she told me that she was the smallest girl there and I'm over 6'2". (I chose her for the great rack and smile. Not her small stature).

2. Sisters! That's such a bonus. How many guys can say they had sisters at the same time?

[Waldeck2]

I will be in Shanghai for most of the CNY. PM me and I will give you my 2 cts worth.


BTW, I forgot to ask in the last post, what are the pickings like during the Chinese new year period? That is, do the amount of girls in KTVs, BBSs etc. Reduce during the Chinese new year period?

[Bonzo1]

Anyone been going there, and any reports on how they are versus before?

I'm not sure whether Judy's has opened or when it will open, but Manhattan has been open in its new location since mid-Dec.

-B-

[Laowei137]

Went to (the New) Manhatten at 23. 30 hour yesterday. I was into some non-Chinese girl for a change. The place was full. A cover band was playing, loud. The girl-guy ratio was about 4:1 and as far as I could see most of the girls were working girls. I entered, ordered a coca cola (40 rmb) and went to the side to look at the crowd. When you come in you will see flocks of girls standing at the sides, don't hestitate to walk around and have a good look at them.

Many girls smiled in my direction and two caught my eyes especially. I motioned them over with the universal "come over here" hand motion. It turned out the girl I was interested in, a vietnamese, could not speak english well (only a few words, mainly: "no"), could not speak Chinese at all, not german, not dutch, not french, not italian, not spanish. Arf. But little didi took control and I took her home anyway. Big mistake. She initially asked 1400 for an hour. I laughed and countered with 1000 for the night (in hindsight way to much) which, after some haggling, she accepted. Out we went (I wasn't in Manhatten for more then 15 minutes I think) The girl named Lee/Li claimed to be in Shanghai only 6 days. I could have seen the disaster comming, but somehow was clouded, she was small, cute, nice face, nice body. And cold as a rock. No kissing, no DATY, no BBJ nor CBJ. It was like lying in bed with an inflatable doll.

I tried to loosen her up, but whatever I tried to no avail. I should have kicked her out at that point, with half the cash for MY trouble, but. Ow well. We all pay a price to learn. She did stay the night altho only 1 pop was my reward. I dropped the cash in her handbag, she didn't even bother to check if the ammount was correct (it was)

The next morning I found out why she was so cold, on one of her first days she picked up a guy named Volkert and he has been texting her like mad how much he loves her etc. Etc. And she fell in love. At least, that's what she claimed. My advice (as lesson learned) never ever pickup a girl that's in Shanghai and doing the job only for a few days (or claims so) It's better to stick to a pro that's more experienced. Then again, it could be you're interested in driving in a new arrival and somehow perversly enjoy the sound of "no no no": then please be my guest, whatever rocks your boat.

The whole experience left me with a bad taste and for the time being I won't be interested in Vietnamese girls again. But I am aware that it's my own fault: lessons learned, move on.

Today my last day in Shanghai, so I wanted to make sure it wasn't a wasted night with a bad experience. I'm always in for an experiment, but never on the last night. So I made a phone reservation at G18 for number 33 for 23. 00 hour. I made the call in the afternoon, after 13. 00 hour. Tip: There's two phone numbers on the Namecard of G18. The 1st number is answered by someone who doesn't speak english, the 2nd number is answered by someone who does. So if you're not speaking Chinese and want to call a place and have a namecard with more numbers, don't hestitate to call the other numbers aswell to see if they're picked up by someone who can speak english.

The Lobby of G18 was lit this time (the outside neon was still unlit) and I was swiftly sent upstairs. At the reception I told the clerc I wanted lady number 33 and they nodded. 2 other punters were undressing the dressing area and 2 other were dressing. Undressed, sauna pj's on and brought to the fishbowl area: curtain was closed and number 33 was standing ready for me (next to the hostess)

We went into a different room this time: again with waterbed, shower area with soapie matress, ceiling mirror, LCD TV with porn, but now with side mirrors. When leaving I checked a few other rooms and they're all slightly different, however, I nowhere saw Red Rope attachements (again for those interested)

Number 33 is, for me at least, a very very good provider. A bit kinky, lots and lots of DFK, BBBJ CIM and best of all: She deep throats. Thanks to the previous night I was able to squeeze out 6 pops this time around.

At leaving (at 2 am) I again encountered a fellow punter making his selection at the fishbowl. He didn't seem to mind, so neither did I (when in Rome.)

After a session of 3 hours I left the building again, 1470 RMB less in the wallet. So it was 880 for the first 90 minutes + 590 for the 2nd 90 minutes.

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[OldAsiaHand]

The whole experience left me with a bad taste and for the time being I won't be interested in Vietnamese girls again. But I am aware that it's my own fault: lessons learned, move on.

Laowei137,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I don't think it had anything to do with Volkert. I've had similar experiences with Vietnamese girls working outside of Vietnam whether it be in China, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. They seem very sweet and eager to please when you are chatting with them in the bar, but completely change when back in your room. I hardly ever take them anywhere but in Vietnam or Cambodia anymore.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Ed Heres]

The only real thing I noticed about a "crackdown" was that the strip of bars at the end of TongRen Lu was closed, at least, every bar closed and the entrances fenced with those "expo 2010 commercial thingie walls". I had a quick look over them and the inventory still seemed the be inside everywhere, so it's just a temporary "refurbishment". Judy's at the begin of the street (oposate of the Kerry center) is still open. Didn't have the energy to go inside tho, the girl in G18 drained me completelly.[/QUOTE]Tongren Lu is going upscale as part of refurbishment in that area of Shanghai. It's not particularly related to any Expo crackdown and the local papers have reported the planned transition to high-end restaurants and shops.

[Mike666]

Went to (the New) Manhatten at 23. 30 hour yesterday. I was into some non-Chinese girl for a change. The place was full. A cover band was playing, loud. The girl-guy ratio was about 4:1 and as far as I could see most of the girls were working girls. I entered, ordered a coca cola (40 rmb) and went to the side to look at the crowd. When you come in you will see flocks of girls standing at the sides, don't hestitate to walk around and have a good look at them.

Many girls smiled in my direction and two caught my eyes especially. I motioned them over with the universal "come over here" hand motion. It turned out the girl I was interested in, a vietnamese, could not speak english well (only a few words, mainly: "no"), could not speak Chinese at all, not german, not dutch, not french, not italian, not spanish. Arf. But little didi took control and I took her home anyway. Big mistake. She initially asked 1400 for an hour. I laughed and countered with 1000 for the night (in hindsight way to much) which, after some haggling, she accepted. Out we went (I wasn't in Manhatten for more then 15 minutes I think) The girl named Lee/Li claimed to be in Shanghai only 6 days. I could have seen the disaster comming, but somehow was clouded, she was small, cute, nice face, nice body. And cold as a rock. No kissing, no DATY, no BBJ nor CBJ. It was like lying in bed with an inflatable doll.

I tried to loosen her up, but whatever I tried to no avail. I should have kicked her out at that point, with half the cash for MY trouble, but. Ow well. We all pay a price to learn. She did stay the night altho only 1 pop was my reward. I dropped the cash in her handbag, she didn't even bother to check if the ammount was correct (it was)

The next morning I found out why she was so cold, on one of her first days she picked up a guy named Volkert and he has been texting her like mad how much he loves her etc. Etc. And she fell in love. At least, that's what she claimed. My advice (as lesson learned) never ever pickup a girl that's in Shanghai and doing the job only for a few days (or claims so) It's better to stick to a pro that's more experienced. Then again, it could be you're interested in driving in a new arrival and somehow perversly enjoy the sound of "no no no": then please be my guest, whatever rocks your boat.

The whole experience left me with a bad taste and for the time being I won't be interested in Vietnamese girls again. But I am aware that it's my own fault: lessons learned, move on.

Today my last day in Shanghai, so I wanted to make sure it wasn't a wasted night with a bad experience. I'm always in for an experiment, but never on the last night. So I made a phone reservation at G18 for number 33 for 23. 00 hour. I made the call in the afternoon, after 13. 00 hour. Tip: There's two phone numbers on the Namecard of G18. The 1st number is answered by someone who doesn't speak english, the 2nd number is answered by someone who does. So if you're not speaking Chinese and want to call a place and have a namecard with more numbers, don't hestitate to call the other numbers aswell to see if they're picked up by someone who can speak english.

The Lobby of G18 was lit this time (the outside neon was still unlit) and I was swiftly sent upstairs. At the reception I told the clerc I wanted lady number 33 and they nodded. 2 other punters were undressing the dressing area and 2 other were dressing. Undressed, sauna pj's on and brought to the fishbowl area: curtain was closed and number 33 was standing ready for me (next to the hostess)

We went into a different room this time: again with waterbed, shower area with soapie matress, ceiling mirror, LCD TV with porn, but now with side mirrors. When leaving I checked a few other rooms and they're all slightly different, however, I nowhere saw Red Rope attachements (again for those interested)

Number 33 is, for me at least, a very very good provider. A bit kinky, lots and lots of DFK, BBBJ CIM and best of all: She deep throats. Thanks to the previous night I was able to squeeze out 6 pops this time around.

At leaving (at 2 am) I again encountered a fellow punter making his selection at the fishbowl. He didn't seem to mind, so neither did I (when in Rome.)

After a session of 3 hours I left the building again, 1470 RMB less in the wallet. So it was 880 for the first 90 minutes + 590 for the 2nd 90 minutes.

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Get the 100RMB VIP card from G18 and they'll knock 100 RMB off next time you monger there. YOu can either keep the card or they "store" it for you (mainly for punters who don't want to have a sauna card with them).

[World Guy Sh]

Laowei137,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I don't think it had anything to do with Volkert. I've had similar experiences with Vietnamese girls working outside of Vietnam whether it be in China, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. They seem very sweet and eager to please when you are chatting with them in the bar, but completely change when back in your room. I hardly ever take them anywhere but in Vietnam or Cambodia anymore.

Just my POV.

OAHReally goes to show how much "YMMV" is true. My best recent, and one of my best experiences out of Manhatten (just before NYE) was a little Vietnamese girl. Complete GFE - really pasionate and enthustastic to the point of almist being annoying (leave me a lone - I want to sleep!) Came in at 800RMB all night. Well, most if the next day as well!

Again, another POV.

WGS

[World Guy Sh]

Anyone been going there, and any reports on how they are versus before?

I'm not sure whether Judy's has opened or when it will open, but Manhattan has been open in its new location since mid-Dec.

-B-As I said in a past some weeks back, Judy's is now in the old City Diner at the Tonren Lu / Nanjing Lu intersection.

Pickings are slim.

[Rob Woodrow]

The whole experience left me with a bad taste and for the time being I won't be interested in Vietnamese girls again.
Laowei137,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I don't think it had anything to do with Volkert. I've had similar experiences with Vietnamese girls working outside of Vietnam whether it be in China, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. They seem very sweet and eager to please when you are chatting with them in the bar, but completely change when back in your room. I hardly ever take them anywhere but in Vietnam or Cambodia anymore.

Just my POV.

OAH
Thanks for the tip. The only one I've ever taken was in a Macau sauna. She was hot and it was great. But saunas are a far different animal than FL's.

[SE Asia Joe]

Went to (the New) Manhatten at 23. 30 .....................
Number 33 is, for me at least, a very very good provider. A bit kinky, lots and lots of DFK, BBBJ CIM and best of all: She deep throats. Thanks to the previous night I was able to squeeze out 6 pops this time around.

.............After a session of 3 hours I left the building again, 1470 RMB less in the wallet. So it was 880 for the first 90 minutes + 590 for the 2nd 90 minutes.
]
Did I read correctly??

6 pops in 3 hours..............???!!!

1. How'd you manage THAT?
2. Howd' you manage to get her to agree?

Just wondering

SEAJ

[OldAsiaHand]

Thanks for the tip. The only one I've ever taken was in a Macau sauna. She was hot and it was great. But saunas are a far different animal than FL's.

Sauna girls are under extreme pressure by management to perform or they can be severely penalized. And, the time frame is fixed so there is no hurry.

On the other hand, freelancers can do as they please. I am not saying I've not had a few good ones. I did a Viet duo out of OT in Singapore a few months ago and the service was excellent. However, I've found the majority of them in a hurry compared with counterparts from other countries working in the same locale.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Pcpc1688]

Get the 100RMB VIP card from G18 and they'll knock 100 RMB off next time you monger there. YOu can either keep the card or they "store" it for you (mainly for punters who don't want to have a sauna card with them).

Spend a $100 to save a $100? Isnt that the same as saving nothing at all? lol

Anyhow, whats open these days and why do I have no luck in Manhattans/ Judys etc? Any tips?

PC out

[Fuzimiao]

I'm aware of two kinds of VIP cards, one is a simple card identifying you as a regular client, thus entitled to a discount on every visit, another is a prepay charge card, you load it up, then spend it at a discount. Discount may vary, I get 40% in Laoshan Lu, bringing Body Massage with oil from 200rmb, down to 120rmb per hour.

FZ

[Fisherman2]

I did a bit of prospecting last night, and I agree with previous posters that absolute numbers seem to be down on last year, both in Judy's and Manhattan. Maybe it will just take a while for things to settle down. Still, around midnight the female/male ratio at Manhattan for instance was definitely around 2:1.

On the other hand, I actually thought that the talent level was probably better than before. Maybe it's just a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder. I also realise that the fact that I had a hard time choosing between 3 girls I really fancied may have coloured my overall judgement.

[World Guy Sh]

Spend a $100 to save a $100? Isnt that the same as saving nothing at all? lolAnd then the $100 discount everytime after that. But seems daft I agree. First time you pay full whack, and so who would NOT take the card?


Anyhow, whats open these days and why do I have no luck in Manhattans/ Judys etc? Any tips?Because they are all old and grizzled? They do seem to be going through a VERY lean phase even by their standards. Very few Chinese hotties.

[Laowei137]

Laowei137,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I don't think it had anything to do with Volkert. I've had similar experiences with Vietnamese girls working outside of Vietnam whether it be in China, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. They seem very sweet and eager to please when you are chatting with them in the bar, but completely change when back in your room. I hardly ever take them anywhere but in Vietnam or Cambodia anymore.

OAHAye, I hear you. Leasson learned ;-) We all pay a price to learn at some point or another. The girl did let me read the messages she got so at least the guy got a good time with her, or else he's a huge massochist ;-P

I should not have taken her home. I've picked up independants in China before and indeed Milleage does vary. Mostly the chinese independants were a bad experience, so I figuered let's try a viet for a change. Next time I head over I'll try a Philly or a Thai, that is, if I can find one :-)

[Laowei137]

Did I read correctly??

6 pops in 3 hours..............???!!!

1. How'd you manage THAT?
2. Howd' you manage to get her to agree?

Just wondering

SEAJYes sir, you read corectly.

I imagine you are not referring to the 3 hours part. That was simply a matter of grabbing her ankels and starting a long DATY session when the time was up and she was making the phone call to indicate we were going to shower ;-) She got the message alright and extended the session for another 90 minutes. During the 3 hour session we showered and took some refreshments 3 times.

I'm still a fairly young guy below 40's. I'm not using any chemical stimuli. Usually my performance deminishesh each day a bit, but because the previous night was so dissatifactonary I had a bit of energy let. 5th and 6th took a bit longer then normal and I had a bit of trouble with my fine motoristic coordination when leaving ^^ Needless to say, I slept like a baby that night.

I didn't do anything special to get her to agree. At least, not from my POV. She was hot and I somehow pressed the right buttons. She has erogenic zones at spots I never seen before: sucking the outer sides of her feet made her insanelly wet.

This girl is a pro, no "Loa Gong" talk or fake moanings. The first visit I made to her I told her to leave fake moanings at the doorstep. In the last hour of the session she did however start using "QinAiDe" in her gasps, which was fine with me because she realy is a good match to me sexually. I got lucky I guess to have found this one (and the one at HeTing that was constantly shouting "Gea Ni!" when I was doing her sister) Both of them are keepers. I knock on wood and hope they keep their numbers in the time I am outside China so they'll be available again when I return in a few months.

[Pcpc1688]

And then the $100 discount everytime after that. But seems daft I agree. First time you pay full whack, and so who would NOT take the card?

Because they are all old and grizzled? They do seem to be going through a VERY lean phase even by their standards. Very few Chinese hotties.

WGS,

Thanks for your help. I never go to those places much anyway. Anyone intown next week to check them out? I will be here in lovely Shanghai for mongering opportunities.

PC out

[Pcpc1688]

And then the $100 discount everytime after that. But seems daft I agree. First time you pay full whack, and so who would NOT take the card?

Because they are all old and grizzled? They do seem to be going through a VERY lean phase even by their standards. Very few Chinese hotties.

Anyone intown next week to checks these places out? Any particular day better than the rest?

PC out

[Pcpc1688]

Had a night in Shaghai before leaving outta town and visited here again, lol

Got 505 from Jiangxi, fake moans, alittle attitude at the ebd as I wanted to end it but for her sake, I stayed the mandatory 65 mins. These girls will get penalized if clients leave earlier that that.

Would not repeat with 505 as it was quite a battle with her personality.

PC out

PS where is G18 referred here? Any pms would be appreciated!

[Jean You]

How far form TRL are the new location? Ca..in minutes by taxi?

Does it look like the same price level?


I did a bit of prospecting last night, and I agree with previous posters that absolute numbers seem to be down on last year, both in Judy's and Manhattan. Maybe it will just take a while for things to settle down. Still, around midnight the female/male ratio at Manhattan for instance was definitely around 2:1.

On the other hand, I actually thought that the talent level was probably better than before. Maybe it's just a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder. I also realise that the fact that I had a hard time choosing between 3 girls I really fancied may have coloured my overall judgement.

[Parasitius]

I wonder if it's the 505 I seem to recall having about a year back. I was so overwhelmed by her beauty and perfect body that the non-GFE experience was compensated for to the point that I would have still gotten her again. Some girls don't follow the 10 point check list of exotic sucking kissing rubbing etc., but she did everything like clockwork so that also got points to make up for non-GFE deficiency.


Had a night in Shaghai before leaving outta town and visited here again, lol

Got 505 from Jiangxi, fake moans, alittle attitude at the ebd as I wanted to end it but for her sake, I stayed the mandatory 65 mins. These girls will get penalized if clients leave earlier that that.

Would not repeat with 505 as it was quite a battle with her personality.

PC out

PS where is G18 referred here? Any pms would be appreciated!

[Maddog40]

It will be nice to be back this next week. I look forward to checking out some of the new saunas and walking into semi-legit looking foot massage places to see what I can score. Spend 40 RMB to find someone I like and see if they offer massage. Nice way to pick up freebies or perhaps only pay 100 RMB for massage and tug. Will report soon if I find a reliable vpn.

MD40

[Fisherman2]

How far form TRL are the new location? Ca..in minutes by taxi?

Does it look like the same price level?Judy's is on the corner of Tongren Lu / Nanjing Lu, where the City Diner used to be. Manhattan is now on Nanyang Lu, almost next door to Big Bamboo.

[Mike921]

First time I've been there and a 'lineup' of only one ;)
Name: #161
Hometown: Hebei
Age: 22
Body: 7/10 (SYT)
Tits: 5/10 32
Kissing: not allowed
Massage: N/A (mostly the routine - very nice catbath)
AR: N/A
BBBJ: 7/10 (could have made me pop if she wanted to)
FJ: 6/10
GFE: 0/10
Pussy: Ok
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 80 mins
Damage: 550
RTF: no

Summary: despite being the only one in the lineup, she was a cute SYT who pretty much kept to the script. No complaints.

[Shamuc]

First time I've been there and a 'lineup' of only one ;)
Name: #161
No complaints.

Hi Mike,
after several big disappointments in various saunas including Sarcosa, 999 and Shanghai Hotel (some time ago) I decided: whenever a girl makes only base business according "to the script" I WILL COMPLAIN.

Your description to me sounds like a disappointment, too:
- no kissing
- no A/R
- obviously soso bj
- bad fj
- no gfe

...and knowing what you can get in China for some kuai more (or even less) I think we should give negative feedback!!!

I think that such kind of girl does not even know what some others do and what is possible. For that reason I started to give them my feedback and also to inform the managenment if possible, at least I leave earlier in order to show my unhappiness.

I would suggest to all of us to do so...

Cheers, Shamuc

[Mike921]

Hi Mike,
after several big disappointments in various saunas including Sarcosa, 999 and Shanghai Hotel (some time ago) I decided: whenever a girl makes only base business according "to the script" I WILL COMPLAIN.

Your description to me sounds like a disappointment, too:
- no kissing
- no A/R
- obviously soso bj
- bad fj
- no gfe

...and knowing what you can get in China for some kuai more (or even less) I think we should give negative feedback!!!

I think that such kind of girl does not even know what some others do and what is possible. For that reason I started to give them my feedback and also to inform the managenment if possible, at least I leave earlier in order to show my unhappiness.

I would suggest to all of us to do so...

Cheers, Shamuc

Reckon the bar is pretty low for me, so even a so-so 'performance' is sufficient. Kinda like what we say about pizza (bad pizza is better than no pizza).
Cheers

[Pcpc1688]

I wonder if it's the 505 I seem to recall having about a year back. I was so overwhelmed by her beauty and perfect body that the non-GFE experience was compensated for to the point that I would have still gotten her again. Some girls don't follow the 10 point check list of exotic sucking kissing rubbing etc., but she did everything like clockwork so that also got points to make up for non-GFE deficiency.


Paraitius,

She had a fine body. She wasnt my cup of tea and had an attitude. When I wanted to leave early os when she snapped outta whatever ***** funk she was in.

PC out

Wont repeat with her.....YMMV

[Bonzo1]

I did a bit of prospecting last night, and I agree with previous posters that absolute numbers seem to be down on last year, both in Judy's and Manhattan. Maybe it will just take a while for things to settle down. Still, around midnight the female/male ratio at Manhattan for instance was definitely around 2:1.

On the other hand, I actually thought that the talent level was probably better than before. Maybe it's just a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder. I also realise that the fact that I had a hard time choosing between 3 girls I really fancied may have coloured my overall judgement.

Was there last Sat night, but didn't arrive until after 1am. In short, it was pretty similar to before in layout and turnout, but somehow just didn't feel the same. A few main differences (some not that different):

1. No other bars around it to troll through and get warmed up at, or even just catch some eye candy. Manhattan is now a destination rather than an option for those who were in other bars before.

2. Horrible guy-to-girl ratio. I'd say there were 3 guys for every girl. And somehow this bar attracts very large guys who, when drunk, knock people and things around (I don't mean intentionally). Anyway, kind of annoying scene unless you're already drunk I suppose.

3. Did really see any more private areas and the whole place felt a bit congested to me.

4. Bathroom was kind of a mess, both to get to and to use. Not horrible, but not very good either.

5. Seems like more of the older girls there. Saw a few cute Viets and several Flippers, of varying quality looks on the somewhat low side. Not many Chinese girls, and those that were there were veterans.

Plus side:

A. One of the dancers was hot.

B. Still has girls.

C. Was open late.

I suppose it'll work out fine, but it's really the only place there, and the potential for walk of shame (or worse) being near The Spot and Big Bamboo is a bit discomforting.

That's my 2 kuai, based on one visit.

-B-

[Meiguoguizi]

Any thoughts on how the Expo will impact our activities in Shanghai during late spring/summer of this year?

[Johnnysim2000]

Hi everybody,

Time to make a contribution.

After reading about this place from this board I decided to visit.

Address: No. 777 Siping Road/Lu in Puxi District, Shanghai

Lots of construction right now. But just tell your hotel to give the driver directions. There's a restaurant right beside it and it is on the corner of the block on the 3rd floor. It has it's own separate entrance and it is very discreet.

600 RMB for 70. 90 minutes.

Here is how it works:

Go up the elevator. The manager greets you. Ask for Bob Liu, he speaks some English. I'm asian and can speak mandarin so no problems for me.

They first take you to a room (#21), this room contains about 8 lounge chairs and a locker area. He will give you a locker and a bag to store your valuables. The locker is opened by an wristband that you get PLUS it must also be opened by a member of the staff. Pretty good security IMHO as there are customers also waiting so I actually felt quite safe. You are given a robe and then after your done changing, they lead you to shower and hot tub area. You get a small locker and a second wristband to keep valuables as you shower and/or use hot tub. When you are ready, they give you a towell and a dispoalbe pair of shorts. Then, you are led back to the locker/lounge chair room where they serve you some fruits and some tea. You can watch tv or smoke and when you are ready for a girl, you press one of the buttons on the wall that say service.

The guy will come in and he will lead you to another room where there are 2 or 3 girls. The first time, the 2 that I got were ugly so I passed and told him that I would wait for the next one. I waited another 20 minutes and then was led to another room where 1 girl was there. # 205. Overall, she was a 7 on looks but a small tight spinner body with a butterfly tatoo on her back.

Leasds me to the room. They turn lights low so you can't really see the girl. Anyways, I get the standard hot and cold BBBJ. But I watched as she washed her mouth with mouthwash and didn't let her linger too long. She then wanted to straddle me with no protection and I said, no, let's put on cover first.

Did a couple of positions and I came quite quickly in missionary.

Basically, you can come all you want for 70. 90 minutes (not sure if it includes the time waiting) In fact, I was runnign short on time and had to run after my one shot and she was so shocked that I was leaving. She was saying that she hadn't FA QUAN (orgasm) yet. And wouldn't really let me go.

In fact, I was asked 3 times by three different people after ward if there as a problem with the service and I said, no, very man yi.

ANyways, quite safe pooning and only paid what they said and not a penny more. No fa piao though.

If you need more directions or questions, feel free to PM me.

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[World Guy Sh]

Any thoughts on how the Expo will impact our activities in Shanghai during late spring/summer of this year?Big time. Already seeing it. I reckon Beijing but worse on current trends.

[Mike921]

Any thoughts on how the Expo will impact our activities in Shanghai during late spring/summer of this year?

My .02 is:
1) the 'industry' is too big to shut down entirely
2) any highly visible enterprises (BBS and the like) will probably be 'encouraged' to take a hiatus

Cheers

[Davidlaolee]

What exactly are these places, Manhattan and Judy's that I've heard vaguely mentioned throughout this forum? Are they saunas, bars or nightclubs? Do they have WGs? What's the average age of the patrons and girls (if any)?

Sorry to sound so clueless, I've been away for a week and have only seen a detailed reference to Manhattan by Laowei.

[Pcpc1688]

What exactly are these places, Manhattan and Judy's that I've heard vaguely mentioned throughout this forum? Are they saunas, bars or nightclubs? Do they have WGs? What's the average age of the patrons and girls (if any)?

Sorry to sound so clueless, I've been away for a week and have only seen a detailed reference to Manhattan by Laowei.


David,

All the info is here. You need to RTFF. Certanly being away from Shanghai a whole week didnt suddenly make you "clueless" did it?

PC out

[Davidlaolee]

Opps, just found them.

Didn't think they were referred to so far back.

Cheers!

[Bonzo1]

Anyone checked them out yet? Several of the TRL bars have relocated there...in a variety of incarnations.

I checked out last weekend. I hate to say this, but I honestly have no idea where they were. I have the address in Chinese, which I can't read well enough. Wait, as I typed this I sms'd a bar owner there and here's the general address -- 926 Pudong Avenue (Yuan Shen Rd).

Anyway, the scene there is a bit different than TRL. More local Chinese, more tourists staying in hotels, and even some husband and wife combos. Definitely not as wild as TRL was. I will put in a plug however for Starlite bar. It's ludicrously expensive (like TRL, at least), but the owner is a friend of mine and she is a very good gal - nice person really. Furthermore, it is, or at least I suspect it is, a BJ or take out style bar. I've gotten that (and more) in her prior bar, and this bar is set up to be like that style (bring the girls to the second floor with stripper pole rooms). But be prepared to spend heavily and/or stay late to get to that stage of the bar action...not a cheap BBS or even a Julu lu bar by any means.

Only tried a couple other places there, and nothing going on. The big circular bar in the middle of the side street (you'll see it instantly) has hostesses that danced with customers and appeared to allow some mild groping, perhaps more, and had a good band (same band as at Luna, at least the night I went). Staff was good. Way too loud for me. Spent 5mil rmb on decoration, so think Xintiandi style bar. Prices pretty normal...ie not cheap but not like Starlite or TRL bars where they jack it up.

Overall feeling is this area certainly isn't worth a regular trip from Puxi, but it's ok if you are in Pudong near that area or want a different place for a night.

Cheers,

-B-

[Zhuren]

Speaking of bars ...

There is a poll for the best bar for the hobby. I'm keeping track of the votes. So far, Maggie's in Beijing leads with 2 votes, followed by (uggh) Swing and a place in Dalian I don't know. There is no SH bar.

With all the turmoil in SH, make your votes count!

977495

[Waldeck2]

Line up of 8 beauties at two in the afternoon.

[Denny1234]

Anyone checked them out yet? Several of the TRL bars have relocated there...in a variety of incarnations.

I checked out last weekend. I hate to say this, but I honestly have no idea where they were. I have the address in Chinese, which I can't read well enough. Wait, as I typed this I sms'd a bar owner there and here's the general address -- 926 Pudong Avenue (Yuan Shen Rd).

Anyway, the scene there is a bit different than TRL. More local Chinese, more tourists staying in hotels, and even some husband and wife combos. Definitely not as wild as TRL was. I will put in a plug however for Starlite bar. It's ludicrously expensive (like TRL, at least), but the owner is a friend of mine and she is a very good gal - nice person really. Furthermore, it is, or at least I suspect it is, a BJ or take out style bar. I've gotten that (and more) in her prior bar, and this bar is set up to be like that style (bring the girls to the second floor with stripper pole rooms). But be prepared to spend heavily and/or stay late to get to that stage of the bar action...not a cheap BBS or even a Julu lu bar by any means.

Only tried a couple other places there, and nothing going on. The big circular bar in the middle of the side street (you'll see it instantly) has hostesses that danced with customers and appeared to allow some mild groping, perhaps more, and had a good band (same band as at Luna, at least the night I went). Staff was good. Way too loud for me. Spent 5mil rmb on decoration, so think Xintiandi style bar. Prices pretty normal...ie not cheap but not like Starlite or TRL bars where they jack it up.

Overall feeling is this area certainly isn't worth a regular trip from Puxi, but it's ok if you are in Pudong near that area or want a different place for a night.

Cheers,

-B-Went there yesterday. The location is nice, although now they are building something (new line of subway ?) there so the part of Pudong avenue is closed. There is no residential in near vicinity, only bars, restaurants and shops so this, if it develops properly, could survive.

The new bar ("THE OFFICE") is really very well done, I remember that place was empty for years (new but empty, waiting for someone to rent it), it is round building in a centre of a small square full of other bars. Nice to hang out, killer band playing every day but monday (best band I ever saw in bars).

I did not get if and how it works - they have waitressess in uniforms, quite young, I would hit most of them right away. Then they have girls on payroll in civil clothing, I talked with some of them, they are more like "drink girls" imho, one of them was cute she looked like she is willing to go but claimed she has menses so who knows. And also there are independents coming there, they should be more direct. Also she told me now because Chinese new year is comming there are less girls there but after that there will be lots of lots of them.

The central bar has two "open for public" floors, 2nd floor is an "arcade" so you can see to the stage on 1st floor and has pool table there. Then there is mysterious 3rd floor and allegedly even 4th floor where one of the girls told me there are "happy rooms" - but she might have been joking or maybe rooms for private parties, who knows.

At this small sqaure are also other smaller bars, also with some bar girls and some independents. Probably best approach would be to ask directly any bar girl if she could point you out which of the girl there is independent. Otherwise you might end up paying lots of tequilas and go hom alone.

Oh, also on this square is a massage/spa salon - "Massage for men" or something like that is written on it. Seems upscale (read expeansive), never tried to go inside though.

Anyway seems some new good location imight brewing there, will see how it pans out. It is not that far from Puxi (2-3km from Fuxing or Yanan tunnels = 2 minuts with a taxi), so even Pudongers might check it out.

[Mike666]

Line up of 8 beauties at two in the afternoon.

Lucky you. I was there at around 3 and it was completely packed. Punters all packed in the rooms and are falling asleep. Either they were too busy or they didn't give a s**t. I asked for a girl and had to wait a solid hour before they brought me to a random line (no beauty, unfortunately). "What? Did you asked for a girl? But we didn't hear you say it." I had a fit but they just came me a blank look. sigh!

On the plus side, the place is opened and most of the girls are still around.

[Bonzo1]

Denny 1234 - thanks for the great report. Everything you said comports with my impressions from my one-time experience as well.

The Office, as I mentioned, is like a very upscale talking bar. Not stiff, just big and nicely decorated and, with luck, well managed. The band is the band from Luna - they've been in SH for many, many years. The girls there looked overall pretty cute to me as well.

The downsides of the Office are that it is extremely loud, huge place, and the girls may or may not be available for take out. My guess, and it's purely a guess, is that most are not. It's nothing like Manhattan or Judy's, or Maggies (Beijing) - it's more like a Hard Rock Cafe with some girls on staff to chat with, dance with, and perhaps grope a bit if you work up to that. It's also not super crowded, partly due to its enormous size. My guess is that place will be the hub of activity in that area, but mostly for tourists as it seems a place that one would get bored of after very few visits.

There also appeared to be some KTVs in the area. Others might know more about this.

[Waldeck2]

Manager has changed. I have his cell # but have not found out where he is working at present. Two of the girls I know 'resigned' in the last month. The other one I know is leaving for CNY. Changes, changes.


Lucky you. I was there at around 3 and it was completely packed. Punters all packed in the rooms and are falling asleep. Either they were too busy or they didn't give a s**t. I asked for a girl and had to wait a solid hour before they brought me to a random line (no beauty, unfortunately). "What? Did you asked for a girl? But we didn't hear you say it." I had a fit but they just came me a blank look. sigh!

On the plus side, the place is opened and most of the girls are still around.

[Mark17]

What exactly are these places, Manhattan and Judy's that I've heard vaguely mentioned throughout this forum? Are they saunas, bars or nightclubs? Do they have WGs? What's the average age of the patrons and girls (if any)?

Sorry to sound so clueless, I've been away for a week and have only seen a detailed reference to Manhattan by Laowei.If you walk from the old Tongren Lu bars toward Malones, Judy's is on the corner of Nanjing Blvd. Keep going (or stop in Malones) and the first street on your right, go that way and Manhattans is on the left 1/2 way up the block.

[Apple Court]

Went there yesterday. The location is nice, although now they are building something (new line of subway?) there so the part of Pudong avenue is closed. There is no residential in near vicinity, only bars, restaurants and shops so this, if it develops properly, could survive.

The new bar ("THE OFFICE") is really very well done, I remember that place was empty for years (new but empty, waiting for someone to rent it), it is round building in a centre of a small square full of other bars. Nice to hang out, killer band playing every day but Monday (best band I ever saw in bars).

I did not get if and how it works. They have waitressess in uniforms, quite young, I would hit most of them right away. Then they have girls on payroll in civil clothing, I talked with some of them, they are more like "drink girls" IMHO, one of them was cute she looked like she is willing to go but claimed she has menses so who knows. And also there are independents coming there, they should be more direct. Also she told me now because Chinese new year is comming there are less girls there but after that there will be lots of lots of them.

The central bar has two "open for public" floors, 2nd floor is an "arcade" so you can see to the stage on 1st floor and has pool table there. Then there is mysterious 3rd floor and allegedly even 4th floor where one of the girls told me there are "happy rooms". But she might have been joking or maybe rooms for private parties, who knows.

At this small sqaure are also other smaller bars, also with some bar girls and some independents. Probably best approach would be to ask directly any bar girl if she could point you out which of the girl there is independent. Otherwise you might end up paying lots of tequilas and go hom alone.

Oh, also on this square is a massage/spa salon. "Massage for men" or something like that is written on it. Seems upscale (read expeansive), never tried to go inside though.

Anyway seems some new good location imight brewing there, will see how it pans out. It is not that far from Puxi (2-3km from Fuxing or Yanan tunnels = 2 minuts with a taxi), so even Pudongers might check it out.If you're looking to take someone home from this area, it's possible with patience and repeat visits. Probably not worth it. 3rd fl of The Office is a restaurant, completely unused, and I've never seen anyone (many times there) go up to any 4th fl. They have a great happy hour till 9pm weekdays (not Sat-Sun nights). The band, which is decent, is Tues-Sun nights, starting at 9:30pm. Good pool table on 2nd floor. In my mind, there's nothing great in this area. There is a place directly across from the entrance of the Office, which has a few rooms upstairs for groping. Only went 1 time and was bored. Many cute girls in this bar area, but nothing like TRL or Manhattan now.

[Fatman1234]

I was on that street and decided to double-check if the Shanghai Hotel was closed or not, since I had not seen any reports about it for a long time to indicate otherwise. It was open and business as usual, they complained things were a bit slow... Maybe because half their potential customer base still think they are closed down? Didn't find my regular provider (number 8, a hot little thing from Sichuan) but I haven't been there for more than half a year so some changes were to be expected. Didn't have the red rope but I was kind of running by my own script and don't know if it is off the menu or not. Anyway all was pretty good, lineup quality was more or less as I remember from before and I was very happy with my selection.

[Fatman1234]

My previous report seems to have been lost. Sorry if this ends up to be a double posting.

Anyway I was walking past Shanghai Hotel and decided to see if the sauna was still closed. But it was open, and business as usual. Someone mentioned to me that business was a little slow, maybe no surprise if most of their customers think they are closed. The lineup was decent. I didn't find my regular provider (number 8, a hot little thing from Sichuan) but still was happy with my selection and had a very good time. Didn't do the red rope but I was running by my own script so don't know if it is off the menu. I'll be back for sure.

[Applecrate]

Sacrosa remains busy. 311 usually booked, though she now has a boyfriend (of three months...go figure). 205 provides adequate service (no big into DATY) but she too is booked more often than not. 550 has been there a year and is a real work horse. When things get busy at Heting, she goes over there to backfill. (Big tits, stury girl, BBBJCIM, quite friendly). 123 is cute, but nature gave her a somewhat small opening. Not her fault. Cute girl, ok body, somewhat cute face, but insists on closing down her legs to limit penetration. Just haven't found anyone in recent times at Sacrosa that could match the legendary 590 or the untra-wild 562.

That having been said, stopped by Merrylin Hotel across from the Intercontinental. Long time favorite has returned home. She was THE diamond in the rough at that place. Fujian girl who could fuck you silly and make you believe she was lovin it more than you. Oh well.

Had to go for the line up. Thought, what the heck. The Hammer Commander (mammasan) came to the ready room herself. Didn't used to do that. Showed me a slip of paper. 680RMB for 70 minutes. Yep. I know that. Off we went. I was about to kick myself until the fake painting came up. ANd then...fuck me naked and raw. There were 15+ fucking girls behind the glass in new outfits. I about shit. Now, to keep things in perspective, this is Merrylin. But the 'newness' and quality of the girls was way up. I was very surprised. I didn't have time to look for long, but I would say the range was 6-7, with maybe an 8. No one overweight.

Went for a big titted girl #33 from Chongqing. Face ok, meaty ass, probably a little more meat than those of you who like spinners. She'd been there three months. Friendly, great attitude, totally into it, lots of fun. All around good service, allows DATY. She really likes to suck dick, or if not, she sure fakes it well...for a long time

In summary, I believe Merrylin is worth a re-look given the new talent and uniforms. Somebody over there has raised the standards of the line up. Does it compare favorably to Sacrosa? The jury is still out on that one. Compare favorable to 999? Probably not that good. Heting? Probably slightly below.

The point is this: it now appears to be a viable alternative to Sacrosa, especially sine Sacrosa is usually crowded and the waiting time are getting longer even for weekdays.

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[Krisowens555]

Saturday Night Field Reprt for Manhattan, Malone's, Judy's

Decided to check out the newly relocated clubs. All three are within a 5 minute walk of each other. Evaluated all three clubs Saturday night between midnight and 2am.

MANHATTAN: Located next to the Big Bamboo restaurant. Best way to find is to Google "Big Bamboo Shanghai" and print out the big map for the Jing An (Puxi) location which has english and Chinese street names for the taxi driver. Nice outside appearance. Inside was packed with live band, dim lights, crowded fun atmosphere, lots of working girls mostly in 5. 7 looks range, Chinese & Phillipino mostly. Bar service was quick, but not the place to drink draft beer unless you want it knocked all over you. Better to carry a bottle. Band played until 1am. Hopping place.

MALONES: From Manhattan, walk west on Nan Yang 1/2 block to Tongren Lu/Road. Turn left and go south one block to Malone's sports bar. Another lively Phillipino band, dancing, quite a few working girls, and couples on real dates. Upstairs is pool table, darts, quieter bar mostly expats drinking. WGs were about the same. In the 4. 7 range, but a few caught my eye. Slender and cute. Band played til 2am when I left.

JUDY'S: From Malones, walk one block south on Tongren Lu to Nan Jing Xi Road which is well lit and safe. Judy's is on the southeast corner, easy to find. Very stylish with a doorman outside. Inside is about the same size as the old one, but more upscale with spinning disco lights, loud music, and an occassional dancer on the small stage behind the bar. Seemed a little sterile in atmosphere to me, and the few WGs there were about 3. 5 in looks at best. Just didn't click with me.

I made one more lap around the circuit to Manhattan and Malone's, which had a steady inflow of patrons. Manhattan had an incredible pole dancer on the bar.

My final pick was the little cutie at Malone's who looked very lonely. We danced for about half an hour and left for my hotel around 2am without even discussing $$$. In the room, however, she asked for 1500 yuan with payment up front (I laughed), but offered 1000 for LT companionship with payment in morning. Of course, she had to agree. Lesson learned previously: you'll get much better treatment by not paying up front since there is no incentive to perform otherwise. Turned out to be a very nice GFE with lots and kissing, hugging, and multiple pops. Very relaxing and nice fun time.

Final observation: Our taxi drove by old TRL strip of bars which are completely dark and shuttered, probably in cleanup preparation for World Expo in a few months. I'm sure they'll be torn down soon. Anyway, the new Judy's and Manhattan locations are much more upscale and discreet than before and should have no problem blending in with the city-wide makeover that is taking place in Shanghai.

Field Report, Out.

[Mike666]

Manager has changed. I have his cell # but have not found out where he is working at present. Two of the girls I know 'resigned' in the last month. The other one I know is leaving for CNY. Changes, changes.

Yeah, I know of a few girls in sacrosa and G18 leaving early to go home. Does sound like they'll be coming back to SH, at least not until after the expo. Some of the girls are leaving for home and then trying out in other cities. Sigh!

I also heard that management in some places are being "asked" to take a long holiday during expo.

[Pcpc1688]

Saturday Night Field Reprt for Manhattan, Malone's, Judy's

Decided to check out the newly relocated clubs. All three are within a 5 minute walk of each other. Evaluated all three clubs Saturday night between midnight and 2am.

MANHATTAN: Located next to the Big Bamboo restaurant. Best way to find is to Google "Big Bamboo Shanghai" and print out the big map for the Jing An (Puxi) location which has english and Chinese street names for the taxi driver. Nice outside appearance. Inside was packed with live band, dim lights, crowded fun atmosphere, lots of working girls mostly in 5. 7 looks range, Chinese & Phillipino mostly. Bar service was quick, but not the place to drink draft beer unless you want it knocked all over you. Better to carry a bottle. Band played until 1am. Hopping place.

MALONES: From Manhattan, walk west on Nan Yang 1/2 block to Tongren Lu/Road. Turn left and go south one block to Malone's sports bar. Another lively Phillipino band, dancing, quite a few working girls, and couples on real dates. Upstairs is pool table, darts, quieter bar mostly expats drinking. WGs were about the same. In the 4. 7 range, but a few caught my eye. Slender and cute. Band played til 2am when I left.

JUDY'S: From Malones, walk one block south on Tongren Lu to Nan Jing Xi Road which is well lit and safe. Judy's is on the southeast corner, easy to find. Very stylish with a doorman outside. Inside is about the same size as the old one, but more upscale with spinning disco lights, loud music, and an occassional dancer on the small stage behind the bar. Seemed a little sterile in atmosphere to me, and the few WGs there were about 3. 5 in looks at best. Just didn't click with me.

I made one more lap around the circuit to Manhattan and Malone's, which had a steady inflow of patrons. Manhattan had an incredible pole dancer on the bar.

My final pick was the little cutie at Malone's who looked very lonely. We danced for about half an hour and left for my hotel around 2am without even discussing $$$. In the room, however, she asked for 1500 yuan with payment up front (I laughed), but offered 1000 for LT companionship with payment in morning. Of course, she had to agree. Lesson learned previously: you'll get much better treatment by not paying up front since there is no incentive to perform otherwise. Turned out to be a very nice GFE with lots and kissing, hugging, and multiple pops. Very relaxing and nice fun time.

Final observation: Our taxi drove by old TRL strip of bars which are completely dark and shuttered, probably in cleanup preparation for World Expo in a few months. I'm sure they'll be torn down soon. Anyway, the new Judy's and Manhattan locations are much more upscale and discreet than before and should have no problem blending in with the city-wide makeover that is taking place in Shanghai.

Field Report, Out.


Nice job Kris.

PC out

[Bonzo1]

Mates

Stopped by Da Tong today. Hammers pounding and workers working. Sounds like the plan is for some soft openings just after CNY and grand openings in early March. Looks like there will be many of the TRL bars there, plus some new ones; about 25+ bars plus cafes, etc. in all.

Hope they can recreate some of the Maoming lu magic there!

-B-

PS Woodstock bar gave me their website, which has a map - www.woodstockshanghai.com

[Maddog40]

Perhaps this should be included in Shanghai Hotels but it is more a report of service than hotel.

I stayed at the Park Hotel on Nanjing Xi Rd for $70 night, very convenient location across from People's Square and Metro #2.

Inside the lobby or on the mezzanine (starting at 8pm each night) was Linda, a beautiful "bar fly" type asking if I wanted a drink in the 2nd floor in-house bar. I had read a report about her giving good service so I told her perhaps another night as I was exhausted from the trip. She was very friendly, not pushy and just said ok, see you soon.

I saw her two nights later after a trip and had a drink with her (she likes whiskey). I'm not sure if this is mandatory but I thought it might help her with the service. She was very talkative, friendly and a good communicator. During our chit chat I asked what she did for fun and she said "everything". I asked what that meant and she asked "Do you want me?" I asked how much and she said 800 RMB but quickly came down to 600. She does have a mammasan you will see sitting on the mezzanine across from the elevators.

After two drinks, I went to the room and she was there within two minutes. I have been to several saunas and can say she is as good as any sauna girl I have had. She is energetic, loves daty, bbbj, energetic, DFK, GFE and is quite lovely. Very accommodating and not a turn off afterwards.

I would have repeated but got a cold a couple of days later and then had to return to US. I would giver her a top rating, beautiful face and nice slim body. Not sure if she will go to another hotel or not.

On a side note, first night I did go to hotel spa for foot massage and had a nice professional although expensive foot massage by very good looking gal. She asked if I wanted other massage in my room. I said sure and we went to the room. I think it was 400 RMB for oil massage and I figured I would get more but only HE with another 400 payment. I have never paid that much for so little but demand was high and supply was there.

MD40

[Pcpc1688]

Had some time today and saw #205 from Hubei. Very cute 18yr girl with natural B cup but had a problem. She had a beginning of a yeast infection and didnt even know it. as cute as she was, she smelled badly down there. She didnt even realize it.

I didnt want to get her in trouble so I let it go and she just blew me the whole 90 mins. It wasnt the best visit this time. Ahh 550rmb down the tubes.

PC out

[Shamuc]

Have been there yesterday, first time because far - but the reports on ISGs made me curious.
I was impressed by the convenient and clean environment as well as the the professional attitude of the staff.
Chose no. 200 (of around 8 girls) as she has the smile and the body..
Quickly noticed that GFE is (at least as long as she does not know the customer) not possible...she did her program, step by step, but: what a program!! It was really amazing, from a service point of view unbeatable.
We had to laugh as she tried to bring me to some positions that enabled her to kiss and blow my privates from various directions...
She did deep throat, AR..only no kissing...obviously her moaning was part of the program, but as I had accepted that GFE is not available I focussed on the great service.
I was not sure how much time I would get for the 698 RMB - so when she started a second round after 1h (somehow I felt she started to like me..), I asked her but did not understand the answer. Fearing that I would have to pay another hour I left.
She wanted my contact data and gave me her mobile number...when I sent her a message later I got back a sms from Heting sauna - confusing.

One additional info: they have a free parking for those (like me) who go there by own car.

All in all one of the best experiences in a sauna so far; will definitively repeat!

[AsianLover]

I want to report about a bad incident I had at Malone's on Tongren Lu this past Wednesday night.

I arrived at the bar late, probably 1130pm. A girl came over to me to talk. I believe her name was Julie. She looked Eurasian. She has long straight brown hair, curvy body with B cups and a very nice bubble butt. I would say her face was a 7 but her body a 9. She is about 26 yo, 5'2' tall and weight 105-110 lbs. Her English is quite good also.

Anyway, we talked for 30 minutes and then she asked me about going back to my hotel. Her price was 1000 RMB which I said was too high and I was not interested tonight. She did not take no for an answer and continued to hang out with me, flirting even more. After 20 minutes later, I told her I was leaving. Then she got red in the face and flew into a rage.

This girl went wild, and screamed at me that she thought I was taking her back to me tonight. She screamed that she needed the money and now it was too late to find another man... She grabbed my shirt tearing off one button. I pushed her away. She tried several more times but I was able to block her attempts and push her away. Finally she calmed down and I got out of there.

Gladly I did not take this girl home. She is a psycho and you guys should stay away. I can't imagine what kind of stunts she could or would pull at your hotel.

Be careful out there guys.

[Mike921]

Just before noon, not too crowded, 8 or 9 in the lineup

Name: #588
Hometown: Jilin
Age: 23
Body: 8/10 (actually had an ass)
Tits: 7/10 36B
Kissing: not allowed
Massage: N/A (great catbath, actually did my hands & feet)
AR: 7/10
BBBJ: 7/10
FJ: 8/10
GFE: 0/10
Pussy: Nice
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 80 mins
Damage: 550
RTF: yes

Summary: this girl was all business - but she was very good at it ;)

[Bonzo1]

I want to report about a bad incident I had at Malone's on Tongren Lu this past Wednesday night.

I arrived at the bar late, probably 1130pm. A girl came over to me to talk. I believe her name was Julie. She looked Eurasian. She has long straight brown hair, curvy body with B cups and a very nice bubble butt. I would say her face was a 7 but her body a 9. She is about 26 yo, 5'2' tall and weight 105-110 lbs. Her English is quite good also.

Anyway, we talked for 30 minutes and then she asked me about going back to my hotel. Her price was 1000 RMB which I said was too high and I was not interested tonight. She did not take no for an answer and continued to hang out with me, flirting even more. After 20 minutes later, I told her I was leaving. Then she got red in the face and flew into a rage.

This girl went wild, and screamed at me that she thought I was taking her back to me tonight. She screamed that she needed the money and now it was too late to find another man... She grabbed my shirt tearing off one button. I pushed her away. She tried several more times but I was able to block her attempts and push her away. Finally she calmed down and I got out of there.

Gladly I did not take this girl home. She is a psycho and you guys should stay away. I can't imagine what kind of stunts she could or would pull at your hotel.

Be careful out there guys.

I find these kind of reports very useful. You are right - she could have been a nightmare at your place.

[Member #3434]

How come many of the girls i "meet" in Shanghai, almost always say that they have been in SH for 2 months. Wonder if it's because they think it's more appealing for them to be new in Shanghai, rather than "old" hands.

[Dumamay]

I came by this on net just now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ4Nm-1FQZ8&feature=related
or this

http://www.eatnineghost.com/latest-internet-cafe-in-shanghai/

Where is it in Shanghai please help

[Laowei137]

I came by this on net just now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ4Nm-1FQZ8&feature=related
or this

http://www.eatnineghost.com/latest-internet-cafe-in-shanghai/

Where is it in Shanghai please helpYou're 2 years late:

Posted on 14. Feb, 2007 by Alicia in Chicks, Technology, World News

And the quoted "news reporter" took the news from is a Korean website, that posted the news way back in 2005: http://www.thisisgame.com/

There's reference that it's not an internet-cafe, but a "special occasion internet-cafe" on a game convention...

[Sky Ryder]

Went there yesterday. The location is nice, although now they are building something (new line of subway ?) there so the part of Pudong avenue is closed. There is no residential in near vicinity, only bars, restaurants and shops so this, if it develops properly, could survive.

The new bar ("THE OFFICE") is really very well done, I remember that place was empty for years (new but empty, waiting for someone to rent it), it is round building in a centre of a small square full of other bars. Nice to hang out, killer band playing every day but monday (best band I ever saw in bars).

I did not get if and how it works - they have waitressess in uniforms, quite young, I would hit most of them right away. Then they have girls on payroll in civil clothing, I talked with some of them, they are more like "drink girls" imho, one of them was cute she looked like she is willing to go but claimed she has menses so who knows. And also there are independents coming there, they should be more direct. Also she told me now because Chinese new year is comming there are less girls there but after that there will be lots of lots of them.

The central bar has two "open for public" floors, 2nd floor is an "arcade" so you can see to the stage on 1st floor and has pool table there. Then there is mysterious 3rd floor and allegedly even 4th floor where one of the girls told me there are "happy rooms" - but she might have been joking or maybe rooms for private parties, who knows.

At this small sqaure are also other smaller bars, also with some bar girls and some independents. Probably best approach would be to ask directly any bar girl if she could point you out which of the girl there is independent. Otherwise you might end up paying lots of tequilas and go hom alone.

Oh, also on this square is a massage/spa salon - "Massage for men" or something like that is written on it. Seems upscale (read expeansive), never tried to go inside though.

Anyway seems some new good location imight brewing there, will see how it pans out. It is not that far from Puxi (2-3km from Fuxing or Yanan tunnels = 2 minuts with a taxi), so even Pudongers might check it out.


I didn't feel like crossing the river and wanted to try someplace a little different and thought these places sounded interesting. First the address is spot on...Thanks!
Started at the Office about 8:00, as mentioned they have a good happy hour and I wound up getting a sandwhich also. The wait staff is cute and there were 3-4 girls in cute civilian clothes that I suspect were there to keep one drinking. I talked to one and she wanted to go play some pool , but I wasn't interested and didn't want to wait for the band to start. I was probably one of 15 customers max on a Wed. night. Walked over to Starlight and met Selena, the manager. There were about 6 gals in Starlight "entertaining" the customers and playing pool, etc. The deal is they try to get you to bye drinks at about 45 RMB a piece. I played some dice and talked a little to Selena. I think at least a few of the girls are from the "drink" bars that closed in Tongren, so they are "seasoned". I inquired about options, and was told that there are a few, but for the most part it is just drink, squeeze, and play pool. One or two of the girls are cute and they all seemed to have good personalities. I enjoyed talking to Selena, but turned her loosed when the number of clients exceeded the number of girls, so that she could do the "manager" thing.
Went back to Office and the band was going on break, but it was still pretty empty. I didn't try "Ricky's" or the massage place, but did go to Amor massage across the street from the Eton Hotel. This was my third visit here and have enjoyed the service every time. The only thing is they always "almost finish" the hour massage and then ask you if you want another 30 mins or hour.....well of course you do. I had a coupon, but it is only good with 2 hr massage and I wound up with 90 mins.
I think I will go back to Office and Starlight, just to see if it picks up and because I stay in Pudong, it is something different and closer to my hotel, but nowhere near as much fun as Manhattan or Malone's

[Herr Pollon]

I would like first to thank all the regular poster for the nice information that they give us.

I have been RingTFF and haven't find anything about koreans. I am obsessed and do not know why. If anybody can help, I will be very thankful.

[Mike921]

I would like first to thank all the regular poster for the nice information that they give us.

I have been RingTFF and haven't find anything about koreans. I am obsessed and do not know why. If anybody can help, I will be very thankful.

Haven't seen any Korean WL here, they are mostly in Japan due to the weak Won vs Yen. There is a North Korean restaurant in Pudong (supposedly state sanctioned and only one of two (Beijing) outside of NK), but the staff really seems (socially) unapproachable.

[Shanghaied Again]

I want to report about a bad incident I had at Malone's on Tongren Lu this past Wednesday night.

I arrived at the bar late, probably 1130pm. A girl came over to me to talk. I believe her name was Julie. She looked Eurasian. She has long straight brown hair, curvy body with B cups and a very nice bubble butt. I would say her face was a 7 but her body a 9. She is about 26 yo, 5'2' tall and weight 105-110 lbs. Her English is quite good also.

Anyway, we talked for 30 minutes and then she asked me about going back to my hotel. Her price was 1000 RMB which I said was too high and I was not interested tonight. She did not take no for an answer and continued to hang out with me, flirting even more. After 20 minutes later, I told her I was leaving. Then she got red in the face and flew into a rage.

This girl went wild, and screamed at me that she thought I was taking her back to me tonight. She screamed that she needed the money and now it was too late to find another man... She grabbed my shirt tearing off one button. I pushed her away. She tried several more times but I was able to block her attempts and push her away. Finally she calmed down and I got out of there.

Gladly I did not take this girl home. She is a psycho and you guys should stay away. I can't imagine what kind of stunts she could or would pull at your hotel.

Be careful out there guys.Yes. I've met this girl. Nice, but aggressive. But never thought she'd do that.

[Shanghaied Again]

Mates

Stopped by Da Tong today. Hammers pounding and workers working. Sounds like the plan is for some soft openings just after CNY and grand openings in early March. Looks like there will be many of the TRL bars there, plus some new ones; about 25+ bars plus cafes, etc. in all.

Hope they can recreate some of the Maoming lu magic there!

-B-

PS Woodstock bar gave me their website, which has a map - www.woodstockshanghai.comI also went by DaTong a week ago. Stopped in drank a few beers at one of only the few places open. The area looks good. In fact too good. Not sure we need such a high class place! Talking with the bar tender, many of the Tongren bars will be moving there.

Stayed tuned!

[Davidlaolee]

Went around 8:30pm. Place was packed as hell. Felt like I was an animal being processed in a slaughter house. Here is a brief summary of my time there. I borrowed Mike's template as it is concise but to the point (hope you don't mind Mike).

Name: #829

Hometown: [forgot]

Age: 24

Body: 7/10 (slightly on the plumpy side)

Tits: 8/10 (a nice set for her small body. They worked a treat during the soapy)

Kissing: she loves to kiss (I didn't though)

Massage: soapy and hot water mouth sucking thing

AR: 8/10 (really got me stimulated)

BBBJ: 7/10 (she gives a great BJ but didn't use her hands, which I prefer)

FJ: 8/10 (lots of moaning, and didn't sound fake. A big turn on for me)

GFE: 5/10

Pussy: Nice

ATWG (actual time with girl. Phone call to phone call): can't remember

Damage: 780

RTF: yes

Summary: Service was slightly rushed but she was keen to satisfy. Kept telling me to come back and request her. She gave me her contact details and was overall friendly. She doesn't speak english though.

[Gislaved]

I can confirm that it is up an running as before. Seemed pretty empty though.
I had a pretty disappointing experience with a girl. She claimed to be from Chongching, and was wearing a "uniform". Somehow that turned me on, but in the room it was a dissapointment. After the first round she was using here Iphone to try to talk to me. She was not at all interested in a second pop and after 40 minutes she claimed time was up. Somehow I did not feel like arguing.

I did not get her number so the only recommendation I can give is to stay away from the girl in a "uniform"


My previous report seems to have been lost. Sorry if this ends up to be a double posting.

Anyway I was walking past Shanghai Hotel and decided to see if the sauna was still closed. But it was open, and business as usual. Someone mentioned to me that business was a little slow, maybe no surprise if most of their customers think they are closed. The lineup was decent. I didn't find my regular provider (number 8, a hot little thing from Sichuan) but still was happy with my selection and had a very good time. Didn't do the red rope but I was running by my own script so don't know if it is off the menu. I'll be back for sure.

[Mike921]

Went around 8:30pm. Place was packed as hell. Felt like I was an animal being processed in a slaughter house. Here is a brief summary of my time there. I borrowed Mike's template as it is concise but to the point (hope you don't mind Mike).

Name: #829

Hometown: [forgot]

Age: 24

Body: 7/10 (slightly on the plumpy side)

Tits: 8/10 (a nice set for her small body. They worked a treat during the soapy)

Kissing: she loves to kiss (I didn't though)

Massage: soapy and hot water mouth sucking thing

AR: 8/10 (really got me stimulated)

BBBJ: 7/10 (she gives a great BJ but didn't use her hands, which I prefer)

FJ: 8/10 (lots of moaning, and didn't sound fake. A big turn on for me)

GFE: 5/10

Pussy: Nice

ATWG (actual time with girl. Phone call to phone call): can't remember

Damage: 780

RTF: yes

Summary: Service was slightly rushed but she was keen to satisfy. Kept telling me to come back and request her. She gave me her contact details and was overall friendly. She doesn't speak english though.

No worries mate, nice to hear there's at least one spa girl in town who actually likes to kiss....

[OldAsiaHand]

No worries mate, nice to hear there's at least one spa girl in town who actually likes to kiss....

It's hard for me to swallow, no pun intended, DFK with a girl that sticks her tongue up punters assholes for a living.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Mike666]

I can confirm that it is up an running as before. Seemed pretty empty though.
I had a pretty disappointing experience with a girl. She claimed to be from Chongching, and was wearing a "uniform". Somehow that turned me on, but in the room it was a dissapointment. After the first round she was using here Iphone to try to talk to me. She was not at all interested in a second pop and after 40 minutes she claimed time was up. Somehow I did not feel like arguing.

I did not get her number so the only recommendation I can give is to stay away from the girl in a "uniform"


Could you let us know how much and how long is a session? Are they still offering soapie and red rope?

[Radner]

So I see a couple of reports indicating that the SH hotel sauna is up and running and I can confirm that. Went over yesterday and to my happy surprise it was open for business.

Walked in and because I was feeling a little sick I decided to make full use of the actual spa facilities. The back scrub guy came and asked me if I wanted one but I declined. He was super nice though.

After soaking for a bit and went down to the lineup. About 10 girls, including what seemed to be a giant, I'm more than 6 ft and we were eye to eye. It took me about 10 seconds to size up the room and I chose number 10 from sichuan. Very cute and nice tits.

We went down the the room and started chatting. She had told me they closed for about 6 months and had been open for about the last 2 months. We started kanoodling and petting and she asked me to lie down. I lay back down/face up and she said 'you don't want the face down service? ' I said no and so she just went at it. After a quick cat bath (not my fav anyway) she started on the BBBJ. Great job! I asked for CIM she said no, CIM only with CBJ. I said no problem, but then she continued with a wicked BBBJ like she was taunting me to CIM. I had to ask her to stop twice, the second time to put on a rubber to CIM. Done and done. After that we chatted for a bit and went for round 2. She took the iniative and after 10 mins of chat started playing with waking up the little guy. With some hand work and BBBJ we suited up and went for FS. This was a little challenging. I am by no means big. I would even say I'm small but her Vjayjay was so tight/small I had trouble entering. I laughed after a few attempts (never in a million years would I have thought this would happen to me) and she playfully scolded me for laughing. We tried a few positions and after a few minutes of actual FS I decided to go back to BBBJ/HJ. After more chatting she let me go at my leisure, never pushed me out.

The girl:

From: sichuan

BBBJ: 9/10

Face: 9/10

Body: 9/10

Overall: 9/10

Afterwards I went back and made full use again of all the spa stuff. This time the scrub guy came back and I said what the heck lets go for it. So he brings me over to his 'cubicle' and starts taking off his shirt. Right then I start doubting myself. WTF did I get into. He then cleans off a towel and starts wrapping it around is hand like he was going to superfist me. After being with the girl, I guess my mind was still in coitus mode, I was thinking please don't do what I think you are going to do. So he begins the scrub and shows me the dead skin he collected off me like it was treasure, in all honesty it IS a good demo. During the scrub he asked me if I did anything more than just 'anmo' I go 'yes' but before I finish he says 'no'. Now I'm not sure if he just didn't hear me or was trying to tell me something. What do you guys think?

Anyway was a great visit, going to head back before I leave. I was feeling shitty that day but after the service and the spa I felt like a million bucks!

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[Mike921]

Sarcosa today
Just before noon, must have been busy, parked me in a 6 seat holding room and then to a fun room way in the back.

Name: #139 Xiao Pan (says in SH 6 months)
Hometown: Guilin
Age: 21
Body: 7/10
Tits: 5/10 34B
Kissing: 1/10 (a little)
Massage: N/A
AR: N/A
BBBJ: 7/10
FJ: 8/10
GFE: 3/10
Pussy: Nice
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 70 mins
Damage: 550
RTF: no

Summary: Gorgeous SYT with very long hair. Skipped the routine today and went straight to the action. After 15 mins 69, then mish/doggie/blew. She put away her gear after that, not even a hint of a 2nd shot (still 45 mins on the clock). I guess if it's going to be only one shot, the only way to keep this one moving for the entire session is to go through the routine....

[Mike921]

It's hard for me to swallow, no pun intended, DFK with a girl that sticks her tongue up punters assholes for a living.

Just my POV.

OAH
Sorry, don't recall mentioning DFK, most shy away from even a peck on the cheek or a 'surface' kiss......

[Gislaved]

Outside it says 60 minutes for 700 RMB.

I ended up paying 750 RMB, and I saw no red rope or sopie. I can not say if it still is on offer


Could you let us know how much and how long is a session? Are they still offering soapie and red rope?

[Radner]

Outside it says 60 minutes for 700 RMB.

I ended up paying 750 RMB, and I saw no red rope or sopie. I can not say if it still is on offerYeah there is no 'VIP' service anymore. Those rooms downstairs are not used anymore. The price is now 650 for an hour before 7pm and 750 afterwards.

One more thing I want to mention. In wuxi at the sauna I began to whistle and the girl stopped me abruptly and said that I should NEVER whistle in these places because it either means I want LE to come or upon hearing this they will come. She was very serious. Any other bros can confirm or deny this?

[Indo Phile]

Am visiting Shanghai for a little time. Have been reading the forum and wanting to check informations are correct.

Have found hot spots recommended by experienced peoples. Thanks for reporting.

Have attached maps and am wanting to know if locations are correct. Sorry for small size, forum rules for attachments.

Is it Sacrosa or Sarcosa?

Pleases and Thanks. :D

[Apple Court]

I would like first to thank all the regular poster for the nice information that they give us.

I have been RingTFF and haven't find anything about koreans. I am obsessed and do not know why. If anybody can help, I will be very thankful.Maybe try a Korean KTV here. Doubt any Korean FL here. Flights are very cheap to Seoul, but it's expensive there.

[Pcpc1688]

Sarcosa today
Just before noon, must have been busy, parked me in a 6 seat holding room and then to a fun room way in the back.

Name: #139 Xiao Pan (says in SH 6 months)
Hometown: Guilin
Age: 21
Body: 7/10
Tits: 5/10 34B
Kissing: 1/10 (a little)
Massage: N/A
AR: N/A
BBBJ: 7/10
FJ: 8/10
GFE: 3/10
Pussy: Nice
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 70 mins
Damage: 550
RTF: no

Summary: Gorgeous SYT with very long hair. Skipped the routine today and went straight to the action. After 15 mins 69, then mish/doggie/blew. She put away her gear after that, not even a hint of a 2nd shot (still 45 mins on the clock). I guess if it's going to be only one shot, the only way to keep this one moving for the entire session is to go through the routine....


Mike,

If you ever think your getting shafted on time, remind the little bunny that you have up to 90 minutes of fun time with her. She knows that if a customer leaves before the 65 minute minimum, they will be penalized $500rmb. So just be firm. I had to do that a couple times recently and always got full time and 2 pops.

#205 from Hubei was an example even with her yeast infection.

PC out

[Mike921]

Mike,

If you ever think your getting shafted on time, remind the little bunny that you have up to 90 minutes of fun time with her. She knows that if a customer leaves before the 65 minute minimum, they will be penalized $500rmb. So just be firm. I had to do that a couple times recently and always got full time and 2 pops.

#205 from Hubei was an example even with her yeast infection.

PC out

Thanks bro, I know I should, but I'm just Mr. Nice guy.....

[Laowei137]

Am visiting Shanghai for a little time. Have been reading the forum and wanting to check informations are correct.

Have found hot spots recommended by experienced peoples. Thanks for reporting.

Have attached maps and am wanting to know if locations are correct. Sorry for small size, forum rules for attachments.

Is it Sacrosa or Sarcosa?

Pleases and Thanks. :DThe location of HeTing is dead on. The location of G18 not ;-) It's more east (off your map) and in a side street of NanJing West Road (to the north)

Motel 168... well, considering Motel 168 is a big franchise with literally a 100 hotels in Shanghai (http://www.motel168.com/) could be

[John Siron]

Does anyone know if the sauna on Wuzhong Lu still exists? It is about a 1 min cab ride west of the Middle Ring Road.

The price was around 800 and the girls had all sorts of outfits that you could choose from. Everytime we went, we were able to choose from a lineup of about 10-15 girls and they would take you to a room to help you undress, etc.

I haven't been in Shanghai for a long time, but used to be a regular on ISG and am wanting to go back to that sauna. Any info would be appreciated. :-)

[Pcpc1688]

Does anyone know if the sauna on Wuzhong Lu still exists? It is about a 1 min cab ride west of the Middle Ring Road.

The price was around 800 and the girls had all sorts of outfits that you could choose from. Everytime we went, we were able to choose from a lineup of about 10-15 girls and they would take you to a room to help you undress, etc.

I haven't been in Shanghai for a long time, but used to be a regular on ISG and am wanting to go back to that sauna. Any info would be appreciated. :-)


John,

There are 4-5 that have been reviewed alot here recently. All you have to do is RTFF. All you want including maps are in the last 2-3 pages.

GL

PC out

[Pcpc1688]

It's hard for me to swallow, no pun intended, DFK with a girl that sticks her tongue up punters assholes for a living.

Just my POV.

OAH


thats why the bunnies use abnormal amounts of mouthwash and any other germ killing liquid to wash the taste away...lol

If they gargle and brush enough, I would kiss some of them ever so lightly. My regular girl who used to work at Heting Elite is a great example of of no arse rimming. So not all do it.

PC out

[Mike921]

Am visiting Shanghai for a little time. Have been reading the forum and wanting to check informations are correct.

Have found hot spots recommended by experienced peoples. Thanks for reporting.

Have attached maps and am wanting to know if locations are correct. Sorry for small size, forum rules for attachments.

Is it Sacrosa or Sarcosa?

Pleases and Thanks. :D
Sarcosa looks close, I think you need to come further south on the map past the Sideke Restaurant, then turn east. If you get to Yaohan/Zhangyang Rd., you've gone too far.

[FernandoAlonso]

Am visiting Shanghai for a little time. Have been reading the forum and wanting to check informations are correct.

Have found hot spots recommended by experienced peoples. Thanks for reporting.

Have attached maps and am wanting to know if locations are correct. Sorry for small size, forum rules for attachments.

Is it Sacrosa or Sarcosa?

Pleases and Thanks. :DNice maps, will check them next time I am in town. Name is Sacrosa, but actually it does not matter as it is nowhere written adn if you ask a Chinese about the location of Sacrosa you will end nowhere.

FA

[John Siron]

Last post about a sauna on Wuzhong Lu was in mid December. If you know the Shanghai scene, things can change fast here without you knowing.




There are 4-5 that have been reviewed alot here recently. All you have to do is RTFF. All you want including maps are in the last 2-3 pages.

[John Siron]

Went to Shanghai Hotel this last Saturday afternoon. Sauna was on the 3rd floor. Showered and then went "shopping". Business on a Saturday afternoon wasn't too busy.

There were about 10 girls in the fish bowl around 5:30pm at the time. Chose #18. She was fresh from Dalian (2 weeks in Shanghai), about 160cm, spinner type of body with B cup breasts. Tight little package. I usually prefer taller girls but her overall package (face and body) was good so I chose her instead of the taller girls that was there. I was her 2nd customer of the day.

She guided me to the room, and then went to get her care package. After returning she helped me out of my pajamas and asked if I wanted any ass licking. I'm not into that type of thing so she basically started a BBBJ with the whole fire/ice thing right away. After about 5 mins, I received a phone call. She asks if I wanted to take the call, which I did, since it was from another buddy that likes to go to these places. To my surprise while I was talking she continued the BBBJ. :-) My buddy asks me, "you getting some action right now aren't u?" LOL! I hang up the phone and she continues for another 5 mins. Hops on me and we do a bunch of positions. Typical sauna girl complaint... "you are too big, can you come on top instead?". Do all girls always say this??? She felt damn tight though, so it was good. :-)

Since we get 60-90 mins depending on the location and time of day, I actually prefer the soapland places like Wuzhong Lu (if it still exists) as I usually like to only do one shot.

After doing the deed the girl puts on a bathrobe and runs out to throw out the condom. She tells me this is important because if there is no condom in the room, the LE can't prove we were doing anything if there was a raid.

She then just sits beside me in her sexy lingerie the rest of the 30 mins or so. She started amusing herself while talking to me by playing with my limp dick. Asked her if she could blow me again and she said we would need another hour if I wanted that. WTF.

Anyway, overall the girl was sweet, but the overall service quality control at the Shanghai Hotel Sauna was lacking. I expect Southern China mgmt quality in Shanghai these days since saunas are so popular now.

[Indo Phile]

The location of HeTing is dead on. The location of G18 not ;-) It's more east (off your map) and in a side street of NanJing West Road (to the north)

Motel 168... well, considering Motel 168 is a big franchise with literally a 100 hotels in Shanghai (http://www.motel168.com/) could beMany thanks especially Laowei137 and Mike921.

Am very confused about location of Golden 18. Found address as 1856 Nanjing West lu and some one else said next to a bank with 3 ATM booths. Could some very kind person put an X in the right place on a map or write directions? Thanks. Have read back to 2008 but cannot find accurate directions.

Didn't know motel 168 was chain. Got confused.
Found "JinDing Wuning Nan Lu and Wuding Xi Lu at the 3rd floor of Motel 168" on guide. Is it a place to recommend?

Are references to MerryLin sauna meaning 3rd floor MerryLin hotel No. 818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong Shanghai 200122?

When I have correct informations I can put correct addresses and maps in one post to help others. Having to read back to 2008 for finding informations at now.

Thanks

[Waldeck2]

Location is accurate. PM if you want directions by subway to Merrylin and Sarcosa.

Many thanks especially Laowei137 and Mike921.

Am very confused about location of Golden 18. Found address as 1856 Nanjing West lu and some one else said next to a bank with 3 ATM booths. Could some very kind person put an X in the right place on a map or write directions? Thanks. Have read back to 2008 but cannot find accurate directions.

Didn't know motel 168 was chain. Got confused.
Found "JinDing Wuning Nan Lu and Wuding Xi Lu at the 3rd floor of Motel 168" on guide. Is it a place to recommend?

Are references to MerryLin sauna meaning 3rd floor MerryLin hotel No. 818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong Shanghai 200122?

When I have correct informations I can put correct addresses and maps in one post to help others. Having to read back to 2008 for finding informations at now.

Thanks

[OldAsiaHand]

Didn't know motel 168 was chain. Got confused.
Found "JinDing Wuning Nan Lu and Wuding Xi Lu at the 3rd floor of Motel 168" on guide. Is it a place to recommend?

Are references to MerryLin sauna meaning 3rd floor MerryLin hotel No. 818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong Shanghai 200122?

Isn't MerryLin the company that owns both the 168 and 268 hotel chains?

OAH

[Laowei137]

Isn't MerryLin the company that owns both the 168 and 268 hotel chains?

OAHThat's correct. The membership card I use to get a discount for motel 168/268 is a "Stay Merrylin VIP card"

Works for:

- Motel 168
- Motel 268
- YotelQQ
- Merrylin hotels
- Ease hotels

All franchises above are owned by the same parent company.


Am very confused about location of Golden 18. Found address as 1856 Nanjing West lu and some one else said next to a bank with 3 ATM booths. Could some very kind person put an X in the right place on a map or write directions?I am sorry, where I said "east" I meant "west". I'm one of those people that has a problem with left/right, sorry.

G18 is on Urumuqi Lu (Urumuqi Road)

Look at your map: The big grey thing on the top right of your map is the subway station. Take exit number 1 and start walking along NanJing Lu heading west. You'll pass a big chinese looking temple, just keep going west along NanJing Lu. Then you must cross a street by going though a tunnel underneath it, just keep going west along NanJing Lu. You'll pass ShangHai Nr. 1 restaurant on your right (with another sauna above it), the next cross-street you encounter is Urumuqi Lu. Go right (north) into Urumuqi Lu and after a few 100 meters it's a building on your right, with 3 ATM machines right next to it.

[Koala Bare]

Many thanks especially Laowei137 and Mike921.

Am very confused about location of Golden 18. Found address as 1856 Nanjing West lu and some one else said next to a bank with 3 ATM booths. Could some very kind person put an X in the right place on a map or write directions? Thanks. Have read back to 2008 but cannot find accurate directions.

Didn't know motel 168 was chain. Got confused.
Found "JinDing Wuning Nan Lu and Wuding Xi Lu at the 3rd floor of Motel 168" on guide. Is it a place to recommend?

Are references to MerryLin sauna meaning 3rd floor MerryLin hotel No. 818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong Shanghai 200122?

When I have correct informations I can put correct addresses and maps in one post to help others. Having to read back to 2008 for finding informations at now.

ThanksHere is a map to G18 (Blue marker) . Also there is a skanker Sauna nearby which is a bit cheaper (Red marker). Look for my previous posts (Dec 2009) and you will see more directions and a report from a brave punter.

Happy Hunting

[Levitian]

Am visiting Shanghai for a little time. Have been reading the forum and wanting to check informations are correct.

Have found hot spots recommended by experienced peoples. Thanks for reporting.

Have attached maps and am wanting to know if locations are correct. Sorry for small size, forum rules for attachments.

Is it Sacrosa or Sarcosa?

Pleases and Thanks. :D

I don't think that ZY Club (1771) is still in operation.

Levitian

[Solx1]

Hello, friends

I just wanted to come straight and tell you all a story that happened to me. A few months back I went to shanghai on a business trip, being there I decided I wanted to go see some tourists attractions so I ended up walking around nanjing road around 6 PM. After looking around I was easily spotted by this friendly girl, a young Chinese girl who speak some english, enough to communicate between us. She was really friendly and I said, wow, this must be a SW but I'll play along. She kept talking and eventually invited me to got get a cup of coffee. Hey, nothing wrong with that I thought so I went to this place called Zen Run Bar which is on a 3dr or 4th floor of a building right there on nanjing road. She pulls me to a private room, the waiter comes in (she was really hot) and I ask her if credit cards are OK, she says yes so I think, well, I don't mind paying $100 on a bar tap so I ordered a tea and this girl some drink. Everything was going fine and she was getting more friendly, then her friend comes in, she asks me if she can order a drink and I didn't mind so she did. Along with her drink came fruits and more drinks for the friendly girl I met before. After a few minutes this friend flees and leave us two alone in the room, the friendly girl now was throwing herself at me trying to kiss me and rubbing herself against me. Is not that I didn't liked it so I continued playing along. Ok so, at a point in time she asks me to go with her to the bathroom, so I did. We left the room and went over to a separate place where the bathroom was. A few minutes later we come back and I notice a whole bunch of drinks now served on the table. What is this? I didn't ordered this I said and it wasnt long before I just finished saying this when the hot waiter comes in with another round of drinks. I told her, No, take that away, no more, and proceed to ask for the check. She left the drinks and went to get the check. A few minutes later the check comes in and SURPRISE! 17. 000 RMB. This is too much I said to her and all of the sudden a second girl comes in, the bar manager I guess and tries to intimidate me telling me that I had to pay and that I had to hand her over my credit card. I immediately knew this was a scam and all 3 of them where in this together and everyone will get their cut. OK, no problem, I handed over my plastic, signed the receipt and left. When I get to my hotel I think to myself, time for the scamee to become the scammer, so I call in and report the credit card stolen. Days later on my monthly statement I report the outrageous amount charged as unrecognized so they reverted the charge and I didn't had to pay a single dime. Man I wish I could see their faces now. I mean if it would have been $100-$150 I would have payed but they went too far. Later I found out on the internet this is a very common scam in China, also known as the tea ceremony scam and I completely fell for it, and actually some people have been taken in by the authorities because of this. Maybe I will go back there someday and I will go up to this bar and say, Hey, remember me? Did you get your money? And laugh at their faces. I'm sure the friendly girl got her commission and my understanding is that on these cases the credit card company does not pay up them because of the fraudulent charge. So, they tried to f*uck me up and ended up been f*cked over.

There you have it my friends, now you know it, if you ever go to this bar, go check the hot waiter out and tell her to go screw herself.

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[BionicMan]

Hello, friends

I just wanted to come straight and tell you all a story that happened to me. A few months back I went to shanghai on a business trip, being there I decided I wanted to go see some tourists attractions so I ended up walking around nanjing road around 6 PM. After looking around I was easily spotted by this friendly girl, a young Chinese girl who speak some english, enough to communicate between us. She was really friendly and I said, wow, this must be a SW but I'll play along. She kept talking and eventually invited me to got get a cup of coffee. Hey, nothing wrong with that I thought so I went to this place called Zen Run Bar which is on a 3dr or 4th floor of a building right there on nanjing road. She pulls me to a private room, the waiter comes in (she was really hot) and I ask her if credit cards are OK, she says yes so I think, well, I don't mind paying $100 on a bar tap so I ordered a tea and this girl some drink. Everything was going fine and she was getting more friendly, then her friend comes in, she asks me if she can order a drink and I didn't mind so she did. Along with her drink came fruits and more drinks for the friendly girl I met before. After a few minutes this friend flees and leave us two alone in the room, the friendly girl now was throwing herself at me trying to kiss me and rubbing herself against me. Is not that I didn't liked it so I continued playing along. Ok so, at a point in time she asks me to go with her to the bathroom, so I did. We left the room and went over to a separate place where the bathroom was. A few minutes later we come back and I notice a whole bunch of drinks now served on the table. What is this? I didn't ordered this I said and it wasnt long before I just finished saying this when the hot waiter comes in with another round of drinks. I told her, No, take that away, no more, and proceed to ask for the check. She left the drinks and went to get the check. A few minutes later the check comes in and SURPRISE! 17. 000 RMB. This is too much I said to her and all of the sudden a second girl comes in, the bar manager I guess and tries to intimidate me telling me that I had to pay and that I had to hand her over my credit card. I immediately knew this was a scam and all 3 of them where in this together and everyone will get their cut. OK, no problem, I handed over my plastic, signed the receipt and left. When I get to my hotel I think to myself, time for the scamee to become the scammer, so I call in and report the credit card stolen. Days later on my monthly statement I report the outrageous amount charged as unrecognized so they reverted the charge and I didn't had to pay a single dime. Man I wish I could see their faces now. I mean if it would have been $100-$150 I would have payed but they went too far. Later I found out on the internet this is a very common scam in China, also known as the tea ceremony scam and I completely fell for it, and actually some people have been taken in by the authorities because of this. Maybe I will go back there someday and I will go up to this bar and say, Hey, remember me? Did you get your money? And laugh at their faces. I'm sure the friendly girl got her commission and my understanding is that on these cases the credit card company does not pay up them because of the fraudulent charge. So, they tried to f*uck me up and ended up been f*cked over.

There you have it my friends, now you know it, if you ever go to this bar, go check the hot waiter out and tell her to go screw herself.

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Interesting and rather easy way to get out.
Wondering if it can happen all the times with the credit card company, but that's it. If it does, it is good.
On the other hand I would not go back and laugh at their faces.
I think it is something asians are not keen to have.
Youwere also lucky the intimidation came from the three women and you did not get some blocks to convince you better.
But they might be around at any time, also when you eventually go and laugh at their faces.
You might regret that. In some country you might be left with a permanent smile from ear to ear, but you will not be able to see that in a mirror as coffins do not have mirrors...
Be careful, mate.
Worked out once, might not work out a second time.

[Shamuc]

hi solx,
the same happend to me some years ago - but fortunately i stopped with the first plate of fruits coming not ordered by me...but still they wanted 1300 rmb for 2 drinks...i got very angry and then got threatened by some sumo ringers behind me. i chose a similar way out like you: i signed with something but not my signature and later made a police note back in germany saying that i had handed over the card first, but then did not use it...the result was the same..got money back etc.
me, too, dreamed of going there one day (i now live in shanghai) and smile for them...but it was probably very smart that i could resist...
anyhow i am not sure if the credit card company really gets the money back from the bar.
so be happy about your luck and forget them.
(alternatively we could organize a group of let's say 30 laoweis with the same experience and then [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on their tables..).
cheers, shamuc

[Waldeck2]

And generally in Shanghai. If anyone goes with a tout they have not RTFF, short for read the fucking forum. While I have a little sympathy for laowei's being taken advantage of, what it shows is that you have not done your homework. NEVER, NEVER, Never follow a tout, male or female anyplace in Shanghai. Single females, females in pairs, threesomes, 2 females, 1 male or two males and one female. I've never been approached by 4. But it's possible. Just don't do it. End of rant. Damn.


Hello, friends

I just wanted to come straight and tell you all a story that happened to me. A few months back I went to shanghai on a business trip, being there I decided I wanted to go see some tourists attractions so I ended up walking around nanjing road around 6 PM. After looking around I was easily spotted by this friendly girl, a young Chinese girl who speak some english, enough to communicate between us. She was really friendly and I said, wow, this must be a SW but I'll play along. She kept talking and eventually invited me to got get a cup of coffee. Hey, nothing wrong with that I thought so I went to this place called Zen Run Bar which is on a 3dr or 4th floor of a building right there on nanjing road. She pulls me to a private room, the waiter comes in (she was really hot) and I ask her if credit cards are OK, she says yes so I think, well, I don't mind paying $100 on a bar tap so I ordered a tea and this girl some drink. Everything was going fine and she was getting more friendly, then her friend comes in, she asks me if she can order a drink and I didn't mind so she did. Along with her drink came fruits and more drinks for the friendly girl I met before. After a few minutes this friend flees and leave us two alone in the room, the friendly girl now was throwing herself at me trying to kiss me and rubbing herself against me. Is not that I didn't liked it so I continued playing along. Ok so, at a point in time she asks me to go with her to the bathroom, so I did. We left the room and went over to a separate place where the bathroom was. A few minutes later we come back and I notice a whole bunch of drinks now served on the table. What is this? I didn't ordered this I said and it wasnt long before I just finished saying this when the hot waiter comes in with another round of drinks. I told her, No, take that away, no more, and proceed to ask for the check. She left the drinks and went to get the check. A few minutes later the check comes in and SURPRISE! 17. 000 RMB. This is too much I said to her and all of the sudden a second girl comes in, the bar manager I guess and tries to intimidate me telling me that I had to pay and that I had to hand her over my credit card. I immediately knew this was a scam and all 3 of them where in this together and everyone will get their cut. OK, no problem, I handed over my plastic, signed the receipt and left. When I get to my hotel I think to myself, time for the scamee to become the scammer, so I call in and report the credit card stolen. Days later on my monthly statement I report the outrageous amount charged as unrecognized so they reverted the charge and I didn't had to pay a single dime. Man I wish I could see their faces now. I mean if it would have been $100-$150 I would have payed but they went too far. Later I found out on the internet this is a very common scam in China, also known as the tea ceremony scam and I completely fell for it, and actually some people have been taken in by the authorities because of this. Maybe I will go back there someday and I will go up to this bar and say, Hey, remember me? Did you get your money? And laugh at their faces. I'm sure the friendly girl got her commission and my understanding is that on these cases the credit card company does not pay up them because of the fraudulent charge. So, they tried to f*uck me up and ended up been f*cked over.

There you have it my friends, now you know it, if you ever go to this bar, go check the hot waiter out and tell her to go screw herself.

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[Mike921]

Hello, friends

Ok so, at a point in time she asks me to go with her to the bathroom, so I did. We left the room and went over to a separate place where the

There you have it my friends, now you know it, if you ever go to this bar, go check the hot waiter out and tell her to go screw herself.

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I just gotta ask - what happened in the bathroom???????????????????????

[BionicMan]

hi solx,
the same happend to me some years ago - but fortunately i stopped with the first plate of fruits coming not ordered by me...but still they wanted 1300 rmb for 2 drinks...i got very angry and then got threatened by some sumo ringers behind me. i chose a similar way out like you: i signed with something but not my signature and later made a police note back in germany saying that i had handed over the card first, but then did not use it...the result was the same..got money back etc.
me, too, dreamed of going there one day (i now live in shanghai) and smile for them...but it was probably very smart that i could resist...
anyhow i am not sure if the credit card company really gets the money back from the bar.
so be happy about your luck and forget them.
(alternatively we could organize a group of let's say 30 laoweis with the same experience and then [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on their tables..).
cheers, shamuc

some guy i know has been victim of a similar scam in shangai.
went back to the hotel, arranged for police to know.
the police raided the place and closed it.
the day after police receives a "nice" video of the guy together with a girl, handing a condom full of just delivered "proteins".
his consulate told him to get out of the country immediately and never come back to china.
so sometime revenge is a dish not to be eaten even when cold....

[Shkeai]

Staying op topic of the nanjing road scams, I've noticed they have become more frequent recently with the touts being slightly more aggressive than usual. Remember never follow a tout, even if its a good looking girl.

In the past when walking from the Bund to Peoples Square (I. E Nanjing road) I've been approached maybe once or twice by fairly average looking girls offering either 100rmb massage / practice their English / sell an art painting / practice university entrance interview / learn about foreign culture / etc etc but ultimately it is the same scam of taking you to some tea house and giving you a huge bill. Recently however I have been approached up to 5-10 different times by very good looking women aged from about 18-25 who are quite aggressive in trying to coax you to follow them. I'm guessing its due to the run up to Chinese new year and they want to get some more cash before going to their hometowns. If you want freelancers better to just go to the sports bars or the newly opened Manhattans, don't pick them up from nanjing xi lu.

[OldAsiaHand]

Interesting and rather easy way to get out.
Wondering if it can happen all the times with the credit card company, but that's it. If it does, it is good.
On the other hand I would not go back and laugh at their faces.
I think it is something asians are not keen to have.
Youwere also lucky the intimidation came from the three women and you did not get some blocks to convince you better.
But they might be around at any time, also when you eventually go and laugh at their faces.
You might regret that. In some country you might be left with a permanent smile from ear to ear, but you will not be able to see that in a mirror as coffins do not have mirrors...
Be careful, mate.
Worked out once, might not work out a second time.

I agree. It's best to take silent revenge. You will never get a fair fight in China.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Fritobugger]

Went to a new place in Jin Qiao that advertises itself as a men's spa and sauna. Stopped in for a look around and it looks a lot like Sacrosa or the old World Plaza B2 but nicer than B2. That though is where the similarity ends. Ultimately it is just and expensive HJ place with a nice sauna and nice massage rooms.

Also went to Sacrosa recently:

Name: #550
Hometown: Dong Bei don't recall which province
Age: claimed 26 but probably early 30's
Body: 6/10 (tall and solid but not fat or skinny)
Tits: 8/10 nice fairly large and heavy with great nips
Kissing: didn't try
Massage: N/A
AR: N/A
BBBJ: 8/10 to completion making sure she caught every last drop. Not afraid of a mouth full of baby batter. Still doesn't swallow just not in a hurry to spit.
FJ: 8/10
GFE: 8/10
Damage: 550
RTF: yes, two pops and a great can do attitude.

[Nightwing88]

Went back to Office and the band was going on break, but it was still pretty empty. I didn't try "Ricky's" or the massage place, but did go to Amor massage across the street from the Eton Hotel. This was my third visit here and have enjoyed the service every time. The only thing is they always "almost finish" the hour massage and then ask you if you want another 30 mins or hour.....well of course you do. I had a coupon, but it is only good with 2 hr massage and I wound up with 90 mins.
I think I will go back to Office and Starlight, just to see if it picks up and because I stay in Pudong, it is something different and closer to my hotel, but nowhere near as much fun as Manhattan or Malone's

Based on this report, went originally to check out Amor massage across from Eton Hotel. However, had a yearning for a normal night with no rub and tug, so went to the Athen's Basilica Star Bathhouse directly in front of it. You can't miss it... it's the big Greek structure next to the bus stop. Went in expecting a clean evening and came out with a HJ. Yes, even Athen's offers HJ service now! After you check into the bath house, look for the big blue sign advertising a massage for 550 RMB for 70 minutes. Find an attendant inside the changing room, point at the sign, and they will be happy to arrange the girl for you. The service was mechanical, and the girl didn't allow touching. But I've always liked Athen's for the nice hot tubs, the sauna and the body rubdown service in the bathing area.

Address is Dongfang Lu, #8, phone number is 58876999.

Nightwing

[Mark17]

I was in Malones last night,. The band started playing at 9:30 as usual, and at 9:40 about a dozen police came in. Took the mic, and said something in Chinese. Then proceeded to check all foreigers passports.

I did not have mine, but I carry a copy, and showed it to them. I did not have a copy of my visa, but they asked when it expires. They were copying down the passport and name on a form. My friend had nothing, but he knew his pp number. They told him, he should be like me and carry a copy.

They checked the band too. A Chinese guy I was there with was not questioned. The manager said this was only the second time he could remember them coming in.

They whole ordeal took almost an hour.

[FernandoAlonso]

Went to a new place in Jin Qiao that advertises itself as a men's spa and sauna. Stopped in for a look around and it looks a lot like Sacrosa or the old World Plaza B2 but nicer than B2. That though is where the similarity ends. Ultimately it is just and expensive HJ place with a nice sauna and nice massage rooms.

Also went to Sacrosa recently:

Name: #550
Hometown: Dong Bei don't recall which province
Age: claimed 26 but probably early 30's
Body: 6/10 (tall and solid but not fat or skinny)
Tits: 8/10 nice fairly large and heavy with great nips
Kissing: didn't try
Massage: N/A
AR: N/A
BBBJ: 8/10 to completion making sure she caught every last drop. Not afraid of a mouth full of baby batter. Still doesn't swallow just not in a hurry to spit.
FJ: 8/10
GFE: 8/10
Damage: 550
RTF: yes, two pops and a great can do attitude.Am I mistaken or was she not one of the former top girls reported here? I think she introduced lovely 105, also gone now. Thought she left? Forgot the name and my access method is not allowing a search.

Do I recall correctly?

FA

[Cocoon]

thats why the bunnies use abnormal amounts of mouthwash and any other germ killing liquid to wash the taste away...lol

If they gargle and brush enough, I would kiss some of them ever so lightly. My regular girl who used to work at Heting Elite is a great example of of no arse rimming. So not all do it.

PC outI thought they use a tongue condom. Saw one once.

Does not bode well for OWO, if they actually stick their tongue in unprotected.

Years ago, there was a flat worker in London who had finger condoms, who seems to finger ass holes as part of her routine. Is that a prostate massage?

[Relaxedinmd]

So, I've been here in Shanghai for a little over a month now and felt it was time to write up a few of my experiences. I've had far fewer than I anticipated as I managed to pull a steady freebie from Enjoy Shanghai. She's a foreigner actually (Phillipino/Chinese) and has been a blast.

Nevertheless, I've been out and about a bit. Will start with tonight's adventure. Decided to go check out Manhattans at its new location. Having never been to the old location on TRL, I can't compare the two. However, it was interesting. Ratio of guys to girls was probably 2:1 or so. That said, there was a string of girls hanging out at the bar lacking companionship. They weren't working the crowd so much, but definitely forward with the smiles. Not sure if that's normal or not. One girl, named Kim, from Vietnam flashed a smile a few times and I motioned her over to chat. We talked for a few minutes and I just wasn't feeling it. So, when she (after maybe five minutes of conversation) asked if I wanted to leave with her I told her no.

Hung out for a while longer just taking in the scene. Would have loved to go home with one of the Chinese dancers working the pole on the bar. Are they actually available?

At any rate, made eyes with a very thin Vietnamese girl with decent tits. Went over and started talking. Again within a few minutes she asked if I wanted to her to come home with me. I told her I'd think about it and we continued to talk. Finally, I decided this would be the one for tonight. Said her name was Jenny (I think; accent plus loud music = hard to understand).

Back to my place. Stop at the ATM. She showered and brushed her teeth. I went into the bathroom after she finished up to brush my teeth. Came back out and she was naked in my bed. Nice. She wanted 1000 for ST and 1500 LT. I wasn't keen to have her here in the morning, so opted for ST. Probably should have negotiated that down, but having never picked up from one of the bars here, I let it go. Enthusiastic BBBJ followed by mish, cowgirl, doggy, and more cowgirl to finish. Cuddled for a few and then she left.

I'm curious. With a ST pickup, how many pops is considered normal? I only got one, but I also didn't press for more. How low should I be able to negotiate this? Do you guys negotiate pops before you leave the bar? What should I expect from a LT visit in terms of pops? Morning sex? Etc.

Name: Jenny
Hometown: Saigon, Vietnam
Age: claimed 26 but could have been upwards of early 30s
Body: 8/10 (super skinny, nice ass, long legs, just what I like)
Tits: 7/10 nice fairly large and heavy with great nips
Kissing: DFK (she initiated)
Massage: N/A
AR: N/A
BBBJ: 7/10
GFE: 7/10 (a little business like and the fake moaning wasn't all that convincing)
Damage: 1000 (should have negotiated on this)

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[Relaxedinmd]

Was previously staying over on Yanan Xi Lu near Panyu Lu and went wandering around one night. Head west on Yanan, make a left on Panyu, and maybe a three minute walk down there is a small massage place. Sort of set back from the street. I can't remember right now if it was on the left or the right. Place looks like a dump.

Anyways, I was walking by sort of slow like (looking for just this sort of place) and one of the girls in the shop opened the door and beckoned to me. I walked over and she asked if I wanted a massage. Said, of course. How much? 100 RMB. Ok. In I go.

Quickly led to a back room behind a curtain. Laid down and she begins to massage my chest through my shirt. Very cursory. Pulls my shirt up and begins kissing on my nipples. Grabs Mr. Happy. Mind you, she speaks no English and I speak very little Chinese, so this got funny. She's trying to sell me FS and after she had pulled her underwear back and I got a whiff of that, I wanted no part in FS. Kept motioning for BJ which wasn't getting me anywhere. Finally, she grabbed my dick and said "massage". I said sure. She wanted 500 RMB and I told her she was crazy. Told her 100 or nothing. That led to a bit of back and forth, but ultimately ended up with 100RMB for the normal massage and 100 RMB for the HJ. Ok cool. Did the deed and away I went.

Name: who knows

Hometown: who knows

Age: who knows

Body: 7/10 (actually, quite the body on this girl. Slim, nice ass, long legs, nice tits)

Tits: 6/10 large, but obviously fake

Kissing: n/a

Massage: uhhh. Right

AR: N/A

BBBJ: N/A

HJ: Nice. Oil and ass play included. Can't complain for the price.

GFE: N/A

Damage: 200

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[Relaxedinmd]

Not much to say here. Second visit to this place and I love it. More traffic this time; two Chinese punters viewing the fishbowl alongside of me. This was about a week and a half ago around 7:00 PM.

Name: #26. Actual name: can't remember

Hometown: can't remember

Age: 23

Body: 8/10

Tits: 7/10

Kissing: n/a

Massage: great. Soapie, cat bath, etc. Love the service here.

AR: 8/10. Long lasting

BJ: 7/10. Not the most enthusiastic

GFE: N/A

Any tips on getting two pops out of this place? I find it hard to get super playful given the language barrier and instead just relax and enjoy the service.

[Tyson]

I went to 999 a few days ago at around 2PM. About 10 girls in the fishbowl ranging from 7. 9. Of course, I went with a 9. Number 876. Absolutely beautiful girl from Zhejiang province.

Face: 8.5

Body: 9

Tits: 9.5 (10's are hard to come by)

Attitude: started at a 6. 5, warmed up to 8

Service: 6

Overall: 7.5

We walk into the room and she immediately starts stripping. We do make small talk as she's showering me. I'm young and pretty fit, so she seemed comfortable with me, but it was clear she just wanted to take care of business. NO table shower. I asked her and she said it was too cold. Ouch.

She starts with me on the bed and doing her mouth suction water thing. I could do without this. She's still very pleasant and friendly with me though. She proceeds with the rimming. All very standard, by the book stuff. After I flip, she gets a little more warm and starts cuddling with me, rubbing her tits on me and kissing me on the neck and ears. I kiss her there too and she starts moaning. I move to kiss her on the lips, but she does the head turn. Ouch again.

She starts to give me BBBJ which is brief and then asks me if I want to "make love. " I'm like, sure. She puts the condom on and gets into missionary position. She says I might be too big. I am on the larger side, so I'm not sure if she was just trying to get out of doing it or not. But I start to slide in and she's doing some pretty genuine wincing. I ask her if it hurts and she nods her head vigorously. I tell her its ok, we don't have to. She tells me she'll suck me and jerk me to finish and I said ok, but come here, let me give you a massage first. This was my attempt to warm her up a bit.

She's hesitant at first, but as I start to massage her back as we're both sitting up, I can feel her loosen up and enjoy it. I lay her down on her stomach and she relaxes and closes her eyes. I give her a pretty thorough massage, enjoying her smooth, beautiful body. As I do her ass and inner thighs, she has no problem with me rubbing against her pussy. I didn't attempt to penetrate though.

I flip her over and massage her face up. She looks totally relaxed and dreamy eyed. I ask her how she feels and she says shes really comfortable. Easiest session she's ever had probably. I massage and lick her body all over and massage her clit. She seems to enjoy it, but stops me from penetrating. I position myself on top of her as I kiss her chest and neck as she moans and wraps her arms up around my head. I move to kiss her lips again, but again she turns the face.

After her massage, we cuddle and chat for awhile. She's been here about 3 months, works 6 days a week and 14 hour shifts. From 1PM to 3AM. She tells me she hates the job. I ask her if she has a bf and she says no, because this job is too busy and no guy would want a girl that does this for a living. She mentions stuff about how foreigners are too big, she had an italian guy that she couldn't fit inside also. I'm playing with her awesome tits the whole time and she asks if theyre big enough. She says I can have them for free if I want. I ask her to finish me off with her hands and shes happy to. I tell her not to fake moan and she gives me a cute, sheepish grin and laugh. I should mention there didn't seem to be any clock watching at all. Back into the shower, put clothes back on and she leads me out. I was waiting to see what her follow up would B. If she'd offer a number or anything, but once we got outside, she was all business. Ushered me out with a quick "Bye Bye. "

So, compared with Golden 18, again, much hotter girls, much better price. But I got full GFE at golden 18. DFK, super playful and eager to please. It was like having my own little porn star. At 999, if this girl was a measuring stick, I'd say the girls are way overworked and it shows in their service. It seems as if theyre programmed to stick to the handbook and keep the line moving. It seemed like she was warming up at times, only to snap back into worker mode.

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[OldAsiaHand]

I don't think that ZY Club (1771) is still in operation.

Levitian

Levitian,

It is with great sorrow that I read your post. ZY Club was one of my favorites, especially the old location with the small bar area and private rooms with the couches. It made me feel like I was getting away with something. Some of the best BBBJ available in China in those daya. I was disappointed with the service I got at the one time I visited the new location and the rooms with the narrow beds were not so comfortable. Besides that, we were paying a laowai surcharge there. Now, they are closed completely?

First it was the BJ Factory, now its ZY Club. What is happening to our hobby in Shanghai?

Just my POV.

OAH

[Mike921]

I was in Malones last night,. The band started playing at 9:30 as usual, and at 9:40 about a dozen police came in. Took the mic, and said something in Chinese. Then proceeded to check all foreigers passports.

I did not have mine, but I carry a copy, and showed it to them. I did not have a copy of my visa, but they asked when it expires. They were copying down the passport and name on a form. My friend had nothing, but he knew his pp number. They told him, he should be like me and carry a copy.

They checked the band too. A Chinese guy I was there with was not questioned. The manager said this was only the second time he could remember them coming in.

They whole ordeal took almost an hour.

Wow, a genuine roust at Malone's - guess someone was late making a 'tax' payment ;)

[Mike666]

Not much to say here. Second visit to this place and I love it. More traffic this time; two Chinese punters viewing the fishbowl alongside of me. This was about a week and a half ago around 7:00 PM.

Name: #26. Actual name: can't remember

Hometown: can't remember

Age: 23

Body: 8/10

Tits: 7/10

Kissing: n/a

Massage: great. Soapie, cat bath, etc. Love the service here.

AR: 8/10. Long lasting

BJ: 7/10. Not the most enthusiastic

GFE: N/A

Any tips on getting two pops out of this place? I find it hard to get super playful given the language barrier and instead just relax and enjoy the service.

I find that G18 isn't as good as before. Perhaps too many punters frequent the place and manager thinks it has a lock on the market.

As for 2 pops, you'll need to manage your time better. Quite a few girls will try to get away with just a soapie and one pop. If you repeat the same girl, then you may get the two pops without prompting. Insist on having one while doing sopaie or skip soapie/ some service and go straight for 2. Of cause, it'll be easier to communicate if you can speak some Chinese.

Playful is a touch and go thing and girls don't seem all that into it, especially if you don't speak Chinese. If you have good service, repeat the same girl. Cheers

[Fritobugger]

Am I mistaken or was she not one of the former top girls reported here? I think she introduced lovely 105, also gone now. Thought she left? Forgot the name and my access method is not allowing a search.

Do I recall correctly?

FA

I want to say that this is a different 550. I think I had the original 550 a couple of years ago.

[Levitian]

Levitian,

It is with great sorrow that I read your post. ZY Club was one of my favorites, especially the old location with the small bar area and private rooms with the couches. It made me feel like I was getting away with something. Some of the best BBBJ available in China in those daya. I was disappointed with the service I got at the one time I visited the new location and the rooms with the narrow beds were not so comfortable. Besides that, we were paying a laowai surcharge there. Now, they are closed completely?

First it was the BJ Factory, now its ZY Club. What is happening to our hobby in Shanghai?

Just my POV.

OAH

OAH,

I have to admit I actually cannot 100% confirm. The whole area has changed drastically over the last 2 years, completely cleaned out, no more bbs, nothing, and I think last time I drove by it looked like that ZY also has been changed into a legit shop.
The whole neighborhood is just getting too fency.

Yes, ZY was also one of my favourites, also very reliable.

Levitian

[Relaxedinmd]

G18 is just super convenient to my location. Thought about checking out Shanghai Hotel or Heting, but figured why screw around when what I have is a proven commodity. If you want to suggest somewhere else, I'd be eternally grateful.

As for the 2 pops, one during the soapie and one during the main course would be ideal. Will definitely give this a shot next time.

My Chinese is limited to complimenting them on looks, particular body parts (grin), and asking where they're from. That sort of thing. Haven't mastered the art of being flirty in Chinese yet..


I find that G18 isn't as good as before. Perhaps too many punters frequent the place and manager thinks it has a lock on the market.

As for 2 pops, you'll need to manage your time better. Quite a few girls will try to get away with just a soapie and one pop. If you repeat the same girl, then you may get the two pops without prompting. Insist on having one while doing sopaie or skip soapie/ some service and go straight for 2. Of cause, it'll be easier to communicate if you can speak some Chinese.

Playful is a touch and go thing and girls don't seem all that into it, especially if you don't speak Chinese. If you have good service, repeat the same girl. Cheers

[FernandoAlonso]

So, I've been here in Shanghai for a little over a month now and felt it was time to write up a few of my experiences. I've had far fewer than I anticipated as I managed to pull a steady freebie from Enjoy Shanghai. She's a foreigner actually (Phillipino/Chinese) and has been a blast.

Nevertheless, I've been out and about a bit. Will start with tonight's adventure. Decided to go check out Manhattans at its new location. Having never been to the old location on TRL, I can't compare the two. However, it was interesting. Ratio of guys to girls was probably 2:1 or so. That said, there was a string of girls hanging out at the bar lacking companionship. They weren't working the crowd so much, but definitely forward with the smiles. Not sure if that's normal or not. One girl, named Kim, from Vietnam flashed a smile a few times and I motioned her over to chat. We talked for a few minutes and I just wasn't feeling it. So, when she (after maybe five minutes of conversation) asked if I wanted to leave with her I told her no.

Hung out for a while longer just taking in the scene. Would have loved to go home with one of the Chinese dancers working the pole on the bar. Are they actually available?

At any rate, made eyes with a very thin Vietnamese girl with decent tits. Went over and started talking. Again within a few minutes she asked if I wanted to her to come home with me. I told her I'd think about it and we continued to talk. Finally, I decided this would be the one for tonight. Said her name was Jenny (I think; accent plus loud music = hard to understand).

Back to my place. Stop at the ATM. She showered and brushed her teeth. I went into the bathroom after she finished up to brush my teeth. Came back out and she was naked in my bed. Nice. She wanted 1000 for ST and 1500 LT. I wasn't keen to have her here in the morning, so opted for ST. Probably should have negotiated that down, but having never picked up from one of the bars here, I let it go. Enthusiastic BBBJ followed by mish, cowgirl, doggy, and more cowgirl to finish. Cuddled for a few and then she left.

I'm curious. With a ST pickup, how many pops is considered normal? I only got one, but I also didn't press for more. How low should I be able to negotiate this? Do you guys negotiate pops before you leave the bar? What should I expect from a LT visit in terms of pops? Morning sex? Etc.

Name: Jenny
Hometown: Saigon, Vietnam
Age: claimed 26 but could have been upwards of early 30s
Body: 8/10 (super skinny, nice ass, long legs, just what I like)
Tits: 7/10 nice fairly large and heavy with great nips
Kissing: DFK (she initiated)
Massage: N/A
AR: N/A
BBBJ: 7/10
GFE: 7/10 (a little business like and the fake moaning wasn't all that convincing)
Damage: 1000 (should have negotiated on this)

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Thanks for the report and happy to hear you had fun. On your questions. ST is normally one hour one pop whatever comes earlier. 1000 is an upper end LT price in the old TRL bars, LT means she stays until the morning and at least 2 times. All better negotiated upfront including services requested. Payment afterwards. She leaves early pay her the ST rate. One strategy is negotiate both and tell her if she performs you keep her LT. Can work miracles. If you make a LT deal and kick her out because you do not like her you should pay the full rate, if she leaves early or denies prenegotiated services you not need pay full, still expect some drama.

Sounds a bit businesslike, I know, but this is ultimately a business transaction, she wants as much money as possible, you want as much service. It is part of the game.

FA

[FernandoAlonso]

I went to 999 a few days ago at around 2PM. About 10 girls in the fishbowl ranging from 7. 9. Of course, I went with a 9. Number 876. Absolutely beautiful girl from Zhejiang province.

Face: 8.5

Body: 9

Tits: 9.5 (10's are hard to come by)

Attitude: started at a 6. 5, warmed up to 8

Service: 6

Overall: 7.5

We walk into the room and she immediately starts stripping. We do make small talk as she's showering me. I'm young and pretty fit, so she seemed comfortable with me, but it was clear she just wanted to take care of business. NO table shower. I asked her and she said it was too cold. Ouch.

She starts with me on the bed and doing her mouth suction water thing. I could do without this. She's still very pleasant and friendly with me though. She proceeds with the rimming. All very standard, by the book stuff. After I flip, she gets a little more warm and starts cuddling with me, rubbing her tits on me and kissing me on the neck and ears. I kiss her there too and she starts moaning. I move to kiss her on the lips, but she does the head turn. Ouch again.

She starts to give me BBBJ which is brief and then asks me if I want to "make love. " I'm like, sure. She puts the condom on and gets into missionary position. She says I might be too big. I am on the larger side, so I'm not sure if she was just trying to get out of doing it or not. But I start to slide in and she's doing some pretty genuine wincing. I ask her if it hurts and she nods her head vigorously. I tell her its ok, we don't have to. She tells me she'll suck me and jerk me to finish and I said ok, but come here, let me give you a massage first. This was my attempt to warm her up a bit.

She's hesitant at first, but as I start to massage her back as we're both sitting up, I can feel her loosen up and enjoy it. I lay her down on her stomach and she relaxes and closes her eyes. I give her a pretty thorough massage, enjoying her smooth, beautiful body. As I do her ass and inner thighs, she has no problem with me rubbing against her pussy. I didn't attempt to penetrate though.

I flip her over and massage her face up. She looks totally relaxed and dreamy eyed. I ask her how she feels and she says shes really comfortable. Easiest session she's ever had probably. I massage and lick her body all over and massage her clit. She seems to enjoy it, but stops me from penetrating. I position myself on top of her as I kiss her chest and neck as she moans and wraps her arms up around my head. I move to kiss her lips again, but again she turns the face.

After her massage, we cuddle and chat for awhile. She's been here about 3 months, works 6 days a week and 14 hour shifts. From 1PM to 3AM. She tells me she hates the job. I ask her if she has a bf and she says no, because this job is too busy and no guy would want a girl that does this for a living. She mentions stuff about how foreigners are too big, she had an italian guy that she couldn't fit inside also. I'm playing with her awesome tits the whole time and she asks if theyre big enough. She says I can have them for free if I want. I ask her to finish me off with her hands and shes happy to. I tell her not to fake moan and she gives me a cute, sheepish grin and laugh. I should mention there didn't seem to be any clock watching at all. Back into the shower, put clothes back on and she leads me out. I was waiting to see what her follow up would B. If she'd offer a number or anything, but once we got outside, she was all business. Ushered me out with a quick "Bye Bye. "

So, compared with Golden 18, again, much hotter girls, much better price. But I got full GFE at golden 18. DFK, super playful and eager to please. It was like having my own little porn star. At 999, if this girl was a measuring stick, I'd say the girls are way overworked and it shows in their service. It seems as if theyre programmed to stick to the handbook and keep the line moving. It seemed like she was warming up at times, only to snap back into worker mode.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Tyson,

Thank you for your detailed report. No offence intended but I would say she fleeced you. What I read is the typical lazy WG BS. Too big? Hear that all the time and I am pretty sure I am not a pornstar. If she is a little wet (they all use lubricants) anything gets in there. This place is build to pass a baby head, so however big you are, this is BS. This girls get trained and it is right some fear the big foreigner dicks, but they fear many things in this country, like a haircut after spring festival.

In a sauna you pay for FS, if she does not give it to you, complain and get another one. Tell her you are not happy and her attitude will change immediately, they get fined for customer complaints. They do not work 14 hours, they are in the sauna for this time and do in average between 2 and 5, maybe 8 customers if they are top. She only works a six days week, heaven in China, most girls only get 2 days off per month plus the natural days off, which need to be proven to management. None of these girls like their job but they earn a lot of money and are not forced to do it, they can leave every day.

So your story is a perfect example of how these beautiful lovelies can sometimes play with us.

As said you had a good time so no need look back, but next times think of what I said and maybe you can have even more fun

Play safe

FA

[Relaxedinmd]

Good info; thanks for the answers! Will report back after my next run over to these places.

I'm guessing its safe to assume that these bars are a ghost town during CNY, yes?


Thanks for the report and happy to hear you had fun. On your questions. ST is normally one hour one pop whatever comes earlier. 1000 is an upper end LT price in the old TRL bars, LT means she stays until the morning and at least 2 times. All better negotiated upfront including services requested. Payment afterwards. She leaves early pay her the ST rate. One strategy is negotiate both and tell her if she performs you keep her LT. Can work miracles. If you make a LT deal and kick her out because you do not like her you should pay the full rate, if she leaves early or denies prenegotiated services you not need pay full, still expect some drama.

Sounds a bit businesslike, I know, but this is ultimately a business transaction, she wants as much money as possible, you want as much service. It is part of the game.

FA

[Lustforthrust]

Sweetest piece of ass ever, literallly, first time ever, I licked and sucked her ass, pushed my tongue in.
She took my throat-fucking like a champ too. Squirted, when I fingered her hard.
She was surprised that I was ready with a condom, yes ofcourse baby, always. Only came once. Too tired to do her ass. She sucked me a long time but I just wasn't getting real wood.

I was so overwhelmed by the experience, I gave her a Swarovski braclet that I got on the plane. This was with the $200 gift voucher I got from Cathay (flight delayed, First Class) last year and the voucher was close to expiration and Dragon accepted it. Swarovski was the only thing I found to be any good in their in-flight sales and I had no one in mind when I picked it.

Today, she came by and left me an expensive gift, made sure to let me notice that it wasn't a fake.

I invited her to HK, says she's not impressed with HK, wtf! I'm seeing her again tomorrow before I leave.





Online pickup, this is how it went:





ok u call now Jing
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I'm staying at the the Shama Luxe on Xing Fu Road in Huashan, we can meet in that area and take it from there. I want to sleep early (big day tomorrow), but you can stay overnight if you like.
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do u want meet today?
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Ye...My Cell: ########## talk to u soon. Jing
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Very nice, got another?
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you got it...Jing
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Let's see a picture, so I know who's there.
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Thanks...lets talk over the phone first. your phone number? Jing
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Hi there,

I am xxxxxx, speil.................

[Mike666]

just want to let everyone knows that the possibility of a raid is quite real.

i was in a sauna in the xujiahui area a couple of hours ago. busy as hell and full of local punters. nice selection of girls, good service if limited options. thankfully, i was done with the deed and was merely flirting with my girl when the "real fun" started. the lights suddenly turned on. my girl urged me to get dress and out now and literally flew out of the room. nice girl as i was in no position of being interrogated (while she was already fully clothed). punters rep001tering to the wind. turned out it was "probably" a false alarm. it was quite a sight to see grown men pushing each other to get out of dodge.

after 15 min, things all got back to normal. my girl was all smiling. several other girls waited despondently for their men to return.

i am almost temping to say it was funny.

here's my two cents:
1) whether you gun for one or more pops, at least have your shorts/ clothes near by in case you need to get dress quick.
2) practice getting dress quick at home. getting your shorts on is surprisingly challenging when the adrenaline is pumping.
3) if you bring your condom, maybe you want to reconsider your strategy. my girl left the room twice during the session with the trash and her stuff. remarkable foresight or prescient, even though i still think she was trying to run the clock down on me.
4) your passport or skin color may not save you. if the cops are serious and/or it is a serious raid, they can always go medieval on you and apologize later (it at all).
5) maybe take a break and monger some place else.

[Gislaved]

I went to the Sauna last Saturday at 3 pm. This was a bit early, as the line up was only one girl. #121. She was pretty qute, and probably pretty new. She had a paper with the numbers to call.

She started with kissing my whole body and then ee had two very god pops, with a small massage in between.

Damage 600 RMB

I must say that this was the best location I have visited in Shanghai and #121 was the best performer I had.

[Shamuc]

...practice getting dress quick at home. Getting your shorts on is surprisingly challenging when the adrenaline is pumping.

....especially when your clothes are in a locker far away as usual.....


...your passport or skin color may not save you. If the cops are serious and/or it is a serious raid, they can always go medieval on you and apologize later (it at all)...

...to my understanding so far the raids are targetted on laoweis (!?)...would mean skin colour rather helps you to be the first aim.....or am I wrong?

Shamuc

[Pcpc1688]

I thought they use a tongue condom. Saw one once.

Does not bode well for OWO, if they actually stick their tongue in unprotected.

Years ago, there was a flat worker in London who had finger condoms, who seems to finger ass holes as part of her routine. Is that a prostate massage?


Thats prostrate massagi for sure.

Never saw a tongue condom used ever on me though.

PC out

[Cooler Wolf2]

I was in Malones last night,. The band started playing at 9:30 as usual, and at 9:40 about a dozen police came in. Took the mic, and said something in Chinese. Then proceeded to check all foreigers passports.

...They told him, he should be like me and carry a copy.

Mark,

A timely warning. Malones was not the only bar checked. Cops also checked passports in bars all along Nanyang Lu including Big Bamboo, Manhattan, Blue Sky Bar etc.

One or two (who got lippy) in Big Bamboo were hit with fines - guess they had taken advantage of the happy hour too much.

One Nigerian was busted in Bamboo for selling coke - using the bathroom as his marketplace and touting for business there.

Of course, it could be the usual pre-CNY 'bonus' raising scheme but more likely, it is the start of 'Welcome to Shanghai World Expo' - and it's Olympics style security.

I suspect this will start to happen a lot more in the near future. As you said, best if we ALL carry copies of passport & visa page with us in Shanghai for the foreseeable future.

[Shamuc]

Here is a link describing the already mentioned new bar area (Da Tong):

http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1537/Offbeat_The_Da_Tong_Mall.html

I've been there recently and I was impressed - this place has a real chance to to get THE PLACE...

Shamuc

[BionicMan]

Here's my two cents:
1) Whether you gun for one or more pops, at least have your shorts/ clothes near by in case you need to get dress quick.
2) practice getting dress quick at home. Getting your shorts on is surprisingly challenging when the adrenaline is pumping.
3) if you bring your condom, maybe you want to reconsider your strategy. My girl left the room twice during the session with the trash and her stuff. Remarkable foresight or prescient, even though I still think she was trying to run the clock down on me.
4) your passport or skin color may not save you. If the cops are serious and/or it is a serious raid, they can always go medieval on you and apologize later (it at all).
5) maybe take a break and monger some place else.

Do not want to flame as your advices are thoughtfuls, but once LE is into such a place all what you want to do is just to avoid a real evidence as they know more than yourself what you are doing there :)
Obviously in a court "having caught being naked" is a proof and so is having a condom on. In a basket? "Oh sorry..I do not know, not mine" I know you can't fool LE with such an answer.
But surely it is all down to the goodwill of the court at the end of the day (problem is how to 'survive' to the cours day or trial!
The shole thing: raid and "being dressed" is a set up from both sides...

[Davidlaolee]

Hello, friends

I just wanted to come straight and tell you all a story that happened to me. A few months back I went to shanghai on a business trip.I am lucky enough to have never encountered such scams, possibly because I always go out with a friend. I have many Chinese friends whom I study with as well as relatives who have been to China before and all have told me experiences in which they were scammed.

A little while ago, I was walking around with a camera taking shots in the Pu Dong district. Suddenly 2 girls whom spoke broken english approached me and introduced themselves, saying they study at a local university blah blah. Immediately I knew this was some sort of scam and wanted nothing of it, so I just nodded and said I wasn't interested in talking to them.

My dad has also encountered several incidences where locals tried to scam him. Once in Beijing, he was walking along some street. A local store clerk motioned for him and when my dad drew closer he pulled my dad in. Inside was a desk and suddenly a hot girl jumped up. The male clerk told my dad that he saw the girl and now had to give them money. Luckily this was in broad day light so my dad just told them to fuck off and left. He's also had taxi drivers drive him to brothels and illegal places when he just wanted to return to his hotel.

An american friend of mine once visited a local "barber shop" for a quickie. After he did the deed and came out, two guys approached him and told him that the 150RMB he paid inside was just a tip, he had to pay more. Initially my friend didn't know what the fuck they were talking about but once he understood he just told them to get lost. The two pretended to threaten him by saying we're calling the police because what you just did inside was illegal etc. And saying they're calling the shop's manager and friends to come beat him up. The ironic thing was this was in broad day light too so my friend just told them to make their "calls". Eventually he got away.

A beijing friend of mine travelling to shanghai was staying in a hotel. He met a girl at a bar and took her home (can't remember if it was a working girl or just a random hook up). After they got undressed and fooled around a bit there was some massive bangs on the door. When my friend opened the door there were two large blokes who forced their way in. One of them basically told my friend that he was sleeping with his wife and that they'd beat him up for it unless he paid up.

I've heard of more but these are the ones I can remember straight off. Case in point, just becareful. If you don't speak Chinese well or are new to the city, go with a friend or someone who does speak proper Chinese. I tend to never try a place unless a friend has introduced me to it or I have read several reports from ISG. Shanghai and China is a great place to have fun (all my friends have said they love working in Shanghai) but just becareful.

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[Laowaish]

Hey guys,

I came across this interesting review of a prostate massage place in Shanghai.

http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1338/Offbeat:_The_Questing_Finger.html

But they took out the name of the place.

Does anyone know the place they're writing about or a similar one?

I've always been curious about the prostate service.

[Mike666]

Do not want to flame as your advices are thoughtfuls, but once LE is into such a place all what you want to do is just to avoid a real evidence as they know more than yourself what you are doing there :)
Obviously in a court "having caught being naked" is a proof and so is having a condom on. In a basket? "Oh sorry..I do not know, not mine" I know you can't fool LE with such an answer.
But surely it is all down to the goodwill of the court at the end of the day (problem is how to 'survive' to the cours day or trial!
The shole thing: raid and "being dressed" is a set up from both sides...


Yeah, my girl was pretty big on that during the session. Perhaps I should send her some flowers and a red pocket. let's hope in situation like that a foreign passport and the willingness to pay a fine will settle things quietly. I happen to bring my protection with me when adventuring so it is always exciting. I am sure the girl cleaning up the bucket in between session and being dress up in PJ won't mean s**t if they are serious about busting some punters for the annual count.

Things seem to be quieting down (at least it was to me, up to the point when those damn lights all came on) and I want to let you know the threat of a full on raid is always real. I am just glad I only had a minor case of being spooked.

Play safe

[Mike666]

"....especially when your clothes are in a locker far away as usual....."

Sorry, i meant those pj you wear inside the place. The girl usually hangs them up by the door. I am going to make a damn point to wear them in between pops. I know it will mean nothing in a full on raid situation. Still, it is better than being butt naked. Funny, I insisted to wear the pj in between pops. The girl wanted to leave the room briefly with the "evidence" and was dead afraid that I might sneak out of the room before the session was over.


"...to my understanding so far the raids are targetted on laoweis (!?)...would mean skin colour rather helps you to be the first aim.....or am I wrong?"



I was pretty incoherent when I wrote that. I don't have a clue what they will do to passport holders. I've heard they quietly kick/ escort foreign punters out of the establishment, fine them on the spot, lock/ fine/ call home.

Again, this is really nothing but it busted my sense of invulnerability. Play it safe.

[Laowaish]

Hey guys I spotted this article online.

http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1338/Offbeat:_The_Questing_Finger.html

... but they don't say the name or location of the place. Does anyone know? I've always been interested in this kind of prostate massage.

[Catweazle63]

In middle of March I will be in Shanghai with a customer.

I would like to go with him to a food/body massage, where he can get fun if he wants.

So not a must but having the option for fun.

I read lots of questions and answers here, but any how, I would like to ask if anybody has a recommendation where to go in Shanghai.

Have been in Ba Dong and the old YuPing already. But these places would not be that good I think.

Thanks for your support.

[Sound7]

Showcaseing the world fare - Shanghai Expo.

What will it do to our activites, any thought anybody?

Thanks in advance.

S7

[BionicMan]

"....especially when your clothes are in a locker far away as usual....."

Sorry, i meant those pj you wear inside the place. The girl usually hangs them up by the door. I am going to make a damn point to wear them in between pops. I know it will mean nothing in a full on raid situation. Still, it is better than being butt naked. Funny, I insisted to wear the pj in between pops. The girl wanted to leave the room briefly with the "evidence" and was dead afraid that I might sneak out of the room before the session was over.


"...to my understanding so far the raids are targetted on laoweis (!?)...would mean skin colour rather helps you to be the first aim.....or am I wrong?"



I was pretty incoherent when I wrote that. I don't have a clue what they will do to passport holders. I've heard they quietly kick/ escort foreign punters out of the establishment, fine them on the spot, lock/ fine/ call home.

Again, this is really nothing but it busted my sense of invulnerability. Play it safe.
I think owners of foreign passport will be targeted as anyone else (even more I dare to say)
Last time I was in a sauna in Shangai (we talk about 9 months ago) the girl became silent all of a sudden, locked the door and tried to understand what was going on. Trying to communicate to me a raid could be on.
Can't remember if we put the pj on.
At the end it seems it was a false alarm, but she was puzzled by some unusual noises of human voices.

Anyhow being caught full naked or with a pj in such a kinky room, with a large shower and its table, on a rounded bed and with a girl, will not make much difference I assume.
I do not think one can pretend an english/chinese literature lesson was going on. I mean the whole establishment is a sort of brothel, with th efishbowl, the rooms etc. LE always know what's happening there, not even entering the loction. Simopluy from time to time the (LE) bosses flex the muscles to show they are doing their jobs.
Being there at the wrong moment is indeed an unfortunate episode.

[Gaspq Bo]

Here is a link describing the already mentioned new bar area (Da Tong):

http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1537/Offbeat_The_Da_Tong_Mall.html

I've been there recently and I was impressed - this place has a real chance to to get THE PLACE...

ShamucYes, I agree with Shamuc. The Tong in a couples of months it could be the real new Tongren Lu in a more fashinating situation. I visited a couple of bar X. TA. SEA and 5113. Expactation is high. Let we see what will going.

The correct address to report to the Taqxi driver is the Tong Mall, Julu Lu 158 Kao Ji Chendu Bei Lu.

Enjoy guys!

[Laowaish]

Apologies for the double posting earlier. I didn't expect the lag. Allow me to make up for it by writing up my review of a personal favorite, the Hailang Club on Zhongshan West Road.

If you're looking for it, it's at 1277 Zhongshan Road, near Wuzhong Road. The entrance is on the East side of the road, just before the ramp onto the elevated highway. Go in and it's about 20 meters on the left, the second building. As you approach the door the staff will lead you to the changing room.

One of the things I love about this place is it is very nice and very clean. I've been to other famous places (not in Shanghai though, only this place) that were on the dingy side but Hailang is always very well maintained. Once you've changed into the PJs (and locked up your phone-they used to let you keep it in a plastic sleeve but no more) you have the option of going straight up to the massage area or relaxing in the hot tub/sauna area and then showering before going up. It's up to you. Sometimes I like to get in a nice sauna and sometimes I want to get right to it.

Once upstairs you will be led into a private room with reclining chairs and a TV. They'll bring you a beer and some fruit (no charge for either) and you can relax for a bit, or again you can ask to be taken directly to the fish bowl to choose a girl (or girls). Here too it's up to you-only rarely will they ask you to wait while the girls become available.

The fish bowl has been excellent 90% of the time. There was only one time that I went and felt like I had to settle-but that time I was with a friend who thought the whole selection was amazing so it really just comes down to taste. Depending on the time of day there will be between 6-20 girls. The guy operating the room may make some suggestions but isn't pushy and I have definitely been there with friends who took their time selecting and we were never hassled to be quick.

Pick your girl(s) and they will come out and lead you to your room. Again, pretty standard soapie set-up. Interestingly, they didn't use to offer the soapie. After a long absence I returned more than a year ago to find they had installed shower rooms for the soapie service-very interesting how these places invest to improve themselves LOL. Anyway aside from the soapie shower room they have a bed with rails above it for the famous "red ribbon" service, although the first guy that introduced me to the place always called it the acrobat show. Some of the rooms have the sex chairs too.

Service is about what people describe in a lot of these threads. They take you in to the shower room, sit you down in a chair and soap you up and down. They clean out your crack pretty well too in preparation for some salad tossing later, although after the first surprising experience I decline this offering but to each his own. Then they'll give you some teasing BBBJ before prepping the inflatable bed for a body massage with some sort of body oil they rub all over themselves. A couple of times the BJ was very good so I asked the girl not to stop and they were happy to keep it up. Back to the body massage. They usually start you on your stomach and use all parts of their body to rub on your back. Then they flip you over and repeat the process. It makes for an amazing view when they straddle your face and slide up and down your torso. This goes on for about 20 minutes then time to rinse, dry, and get on the bed.

More BBBJ, then she gets out the red ribbon. One note: sometimes they won't necessarily get right to that so if you do be sure to request it. One buddy of mine somehow missed this service and regretted it later when we were all sharing our experiences in the lounge after. She will tie it to the rails and hang upside down while giving you the most memorable BBBJ of your life. Again, an amazing view both from your angle, and from the ceiling mirror. She even does an upside down spinning helicopter move that you will never forget.

You get about 5-10 minutes of that and then she'll hop down and get ready for sex. For the most part it's one pop but a couple of times I've had the girl initiate a second round. Have your fun and then lay around cuddling until it's time to head out. She'll call the front desk and they'll ask if you were satisfied. Despite a couple of less than enthusiastic experiences in my many visits for the most part the girls have been amazing.

Afterwards you can go back to the private rooms and have another beer and some fruit. I've only been charged if I had more than 2 beers and also once had something more substantial to eat, but actually the beers and food are very cheap-I think 10 or 20 kuai for the beer (not bad for a city where most bars charge 40-60 kuai).

Pay on the way out, if you're there before 7pm I believe it's 680, 780 after. They'll help you call a taxi too if you want, as it's not always easy to get a cab right there.

This review ended up being longer than I intended but hopefully it will be useful for someone interested in trying the place out. In conclusion it's nice and clean, great staff that isn't pushy, hot girls most of the time. What else do you need?

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[Mike666]

Showcaseing the world fare - Shanghai Expo.

What will it do to our activites, any thought anybody?

Thanks in advance.

S7

If you can, stay away until after the Expo. If not, check the forum and you'll find the same sort of places keep coming up. Try them out and hope you won't get caught. Cheers

[Private Pilot]

Please be specific on the locations. It is much more difficult to find a place/building in Shanghai due to its complexity. I quite often pass by a building without knowing that is exactly what I am looking for.

Thanks!

[Wangabe]

Hi there,

Beijing based monger here. Thanks to the great reports on location here in the Shanghai forums, I was able to find Heting a couple of weeks ago when I went to Shanghai for a business trip. Place looked incredibly upscale for me, but the reported price of under 800 assured me a lot.

Went in, mentioned about an abstract friend that recommended the place to me, and the guy told me there was a discount if you checked out before 7pm for 600 for the whole package. (had a flight at 6, missed it, but wouldn't of been able to stay too long anyways)

Showered, rested, and here's the part that impressed me the most. In leading me to the girls the guy went through an electronic door made to look like a door, made me feel mad baller. Turned out in the end that there was multiple ways to enter the shower are from the massage place. The whole place made be feel very relaxed and safe, which is great considering the expo.

Only 2 girls were shown to me (was told ~20 girls there, most busy, I believe it, a lot of guys), no fishbowl experience as the girl told me they had to tone down something. I think I took 187 from hunan. Great body and service. Room was incredibly nice too, much better than the saunas I go to in Beijing. Mirrors on two sides of the wall, enjoyed watching the show from a different point of view. I stopped short of flexing and kissing my biceps ala American Psycho style. I'll do it someday I am sure though.

Overall, I loved the place and will try to do business in Shanghai as often as I can now. Maybe I just went to all the wrong places but Beijing is crazy expensive. Some of my Chinese coworkers told me it's cause all the coal mine bosses and military/cadre heads all play in China so they basically have unlimited money and this drives up the prices. Damn I wish beijing wasn't so crazy expensive for these semi upscale services!

Thanks Shanghai forum for the great info!

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[Shamuc]

Several girls in Manhattan yesterday told me that - as a result of the raids - they tend to arrive after midnight as at this late point of time there are no raids expected.
And in fact, after midnight the ratio men/girls improved dramatically...
Cheers, Shamuc

[Mianbao]

Apologies for the double posting earlier. I didn't expect the lag. Allow me to make up for it by writing up my review of a personal favorite, the Hailang Club on Zhongshan West Road.



In ever changing Shanghai it is nice to know some things don't change. This place was good when I went there back in 2005.

[Gao Xing]

Hey guys I spotted this article online.

http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1338/Offbeat:_The_Questing_Finger.html

... but they don't say the name or location of the place. Does anyone know? I've always been interested in this kind of prostate massage.It could be the Massage Salon in Jing'an District located on Xikang Lu, just south of Kangding Lu. It's on the east side of the street just north of the Macao Restaurant. There's a lighted sign (photo attached, courtesy dianping dot com), and you have to go up a couple steps to enter the lobby. They have a service similar to what was described in the article.

Jin Lin Yang Sheng / 金林养生
No. 484 Xikang Road, near Kangding Road
上海市西康路484号，近康定路

[Mike666]

Apologies for the double posting earlier. I didn't expect the lag. Allow me to make up for it by writing up my review of a personal favorite, the Hailang Club on Zhongshan West Road.

If you're looking for it, it's at 1277 Zhongshan Road, near Wuzhong Road. The entrance is on the East side of the road, just before the ramp onto the elevated highway. Go in and it's about 20 meters on the left, the second building. As you approach the door the staff will lead you to the changing room.

One of the things I love about this place is it is very nice and very clean. I've been to other famous places (not in Shanghai though, only this place) that were on the dingy side but Hailang is always very well maintained. Once you've changed into the PJs (and locked up your phone-they used to let you keep it in a plastic sleeve but no more) you have the option of going straight up to the massage area or relaxing in the hot tub/sauna area and then showering before going up. It's up to you. Sometimes I like to get in a nice sauna and sometimes I want to get right to it.

Once upstairs you will be led into a private room with reclining chairs and a TV. They'll bring you a beer and some fruit (no charge for either) and you can relax for a bit, or again you can ask to be taken directly to the fish bowl to choose a girl (or girls). Here too it's up to you-only rarely will they ask you to wait while the girls become available.

The fish bowl has been excellent 90% of the time. There was only one time that I went and felt like I had to settle-but that time I was with a friend who thought the whole selection was amazing so it really just comes down to taste. Depending on the time of day there will be between 6-20 girls. The guy operating the room may make some suggestions but isn't pushy and I have definitely been there with friends who took their time selecting and we were never hassled to be quick.

Pick your girl(s) and they will come out and lead you to your room. Again, pretty standard soapie set-up. Interestingly, they didn't use to offer the soapie. After a long absence I returned more than a year ago to find they had installed shower rooms for the soapie service-very interesting how these places invest to improve themselves LOL. Anyway aside from the soapie shower room they have a bed with rails above it for the famous "red ribbon" service, although the first guy that introduced me to the place always called it the acrobat show. Some of the rooms have the sex chairs too.

Service is about what people describe in a lot of these threads. They take you in to the shower room, sit you down in a chair and soap you up and down. They clean out your crack pretty well too in preparation for some salad tossing later, although after the first surprising experience I decline this offering but to each his own. Then they'll give you some teasing BBBJ before prepping the inflatable bed for a body massage with some sort of body oil they rub all over themselves. A couple of times the BJ was very good so I asked the girl not to stop and they were happy to keep it up. Back to the body massage. They usually start you on your stomach and use all parts of their body to rub on your back. Then they flip you over and repeat the process. It makes for an amazing view when they straddle your face and slide up and down your torso. This goes on for about 20 minutes then time to rinse, dry, and get on the bed.

More BBBJ, then she gets out the red ribbon. One note: sometimes they won't necessarily get right to that so if you do be sure to request it. One buddy of mine somehow missed this service and regretted it later when we were all sharing our experiences in the lounge after. She will tie it to the rails and hang upside down while giving you the most memorable BBBJ of your life. Again, an amazing view both from your angle, and from the ceiling mirror. She even does an upside down spinning helicopter move that you will never forget.

You get about 5-10 minutes of that and then she'll hop down and get ready for sex. For the most part it's one pop but a couple of times I've had the girl initiate a second round. Have your fun and then lay around cuddling until it's time to head out. She'll call the front desk and they'll ask if you were satisfied. Despite a couple of less than enthusiastic experiences in my many visits for the most part the girls have been amazing.

Afterwards you can go back to the private rooms and have another beer and some fruit. I've only been charged if I had more than 2 beers and also once had something more substantial to eat, but actually the beers and food are very cheap-I think 10 or 20 kuai for the beer (not bad for a city where most bars charge 40-60 kuai).

Pay on the way out, if you're there before 7pm I believe it's 680, 780 after. They'll help you call a taxi too if you want, as it's not always easy to get a cab right there.

This review ended up being longer than I intended but hopefully it will be useful for someone interested in trying the place out. In conclusion it's nice and clean, great staff that isn't pushy, hot girls most of the time. What else do you need?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Thanks for your great report! Could you advise how long is a session? And are you saying this place offers soapie AND red ribbon/ rope？Sounds like a winner since the demise of SH hotel. Cheers

[Davidlaolee]

Apologies for the double posting earlier. I didn't expect the lag. Allow me to make up for it by writing up my review of a personal favorite, the Hailang Club on Zhongshan West Road.

If you're looking for it, it's at 1277 Zhongshan Road, near Wuzhong Road. The entrance is on the East side of the road, just before the ramp onto the elevated highway. Go in and it's about 20 meters on the left, the second building. As you approach the door the staff will lead you to the changing room.

One of the things I love about this place is it is very nice and very clean. I've been to other famous places (not in Shanghai though, only this place) that were on the dingy side but Hailang is always very well maintained. Once you've changed into the PJs (and locked up your phone-they used to let you keep it in a plastic sleeve but no more) you have the option of going straight up to the massage area or relaxing in the hot tub/sauna area and then showering before going up. It's up to you. Sometimes I like to get in a nice sauna and sometimes I want to get right to it.

Once upstairs you will be led into a private room with reclining chairs and a TV. They'll bring you a beer and some fruit (no charge for either) and you can relax for a bit, or again you can ask to be taken directly to the fish bowl to choose a girl (or girls). Here too it's up to you-only rarely will they ask you to wait while the girls become available.

The fish bowl has been excellent 90% of the time. There was only one time that I went and felt like I had to settle-but that time I was with a friend who thought the whole selection was amazing so it really just comes down to taste. Depending on the time of day there will be between 6-20 girls. The guy operating the room may make some suggestions but isn't pushy and I have definitely been there with friends who took their time selecting and we were never hassled to be quick.

Pick your girl(s) and they will come out and lead you to your room. Again, pretty standard soapie set-up. Interestingly, they didn't use to offer the soapie. After a long absence I returned more than a year ago to find they had installed shower rooms for the soapie service-very interesting how these places invest to improve themselves LOL. Anyway aside from the soapie shower room they have a bed with rails above it for the famous "red ribbon" service, although the first guy that introduced me to the place always called it the acrobat show. Some of the rooms have the sex chairs too.

Service is about what people describe in a lot of these threads. They take you in to the shower room, sit you down in a chair and soap you up and down. They clean out your crack pretty well too in preparation for some salad tossing later, although after the first surprising experience I decline this offering but to each his own. Then they'll give you some teasing BBBJ before prepping the inflatable bed for a body massage with some sort of body oil they rub all over themselves. A couple of times the BJ was very good so I asked the girl not to stop and they were happy to keep it up. Back to the body massage. They usually start you on your stomach and use all parts of their body to rub on your back. Then they flip you over and repeat the process. It makes for an amazing view when they straddle your face and slide up and down your torso. This goes on for about 20 minutes then time to rinse, dry, and get on the bed.

More BBBJ, then she gets out the red ribbon. One note: sometimes they won't necessarily get right to that so if you do be sure to request it. One buddy of mine somehow missed this service and regretted it later when we were all sharing our experiences in the lounge after. She will tie it to the rails and hang upside down while giving you the most memorable BBBJ of your life. Again, an amazing view both from your angle, and from the ceiling mirror. She even does an upside down spinning helicopter move that you will never forget.

You get about 5-10 minutes of that and then she'll hop down and get ready for sex. For the most part it's one pop but a couple of times I've had the girl initiate a second round. Have your fun and then lay around cuddling until it's time to head out. She'll call the front desk and they'll ask if you were satisfied. Despite a couple of less than enthusiastic experiences in my many visits for the most part the girls have been amazing.

Afterwards you can go back to the private rooms and have another beer and some fruit. I've only been charged if I had more than 2 beers and also once had something more substantial to eat, but actually the beers and food are very cheap-I think 10 or 20 kuai for the beer (not bad for a city where most bars charge 40-60 kuai).

Pay on the way out, if you're there before 7pm I believe it's 680, 780 after. They'll help you call a taxi too if you want, as it's not always easy to get a cab right there.

This review ended up being longer than I intended but hopefully it will be useful for someone interested in trying the place out. In conclusion it's nice and clean, great staff that isn't pushy, hot girls most of the time. What else do you need?

Is this the place?

[Laowaish]

Thanks for your great report! Could you advise how long is a session? And are you saying this place offers soapie AND red ribbon/ rope？Sounds like a winner since the demise of SH hotel. Cheers60 minutes. Time can sometimes seem short if they go long on the soapie, but really who is complaining?

Gao Xing, thanks for the tip. I may just have to check that place out. You said similar service. Care to go into more detail?

[Davidlaolee]

Apologies for the double posting earlier. I didn't expect the lag. Allow me to make up for it by writing up my review of a personal favorite, the Hailang Club on Zhongshan West Road.

If you're looking for it, it's at 1277 Zhongshan Road, near Wuzhong Road. The entrance is on the East side of the road, just before the ramp onto the elevated highway. Go in and it's about 20 meters on the left, the second building. As you approach the door the staff will lead you to the changing room. Sorry for the repost, didn't realise I didn't upload the map. Is this where Hailang Club is?

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9897/hailangclub.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/hailangclub.jpg/)

[Mike921]

Just after noon, lots of punters around, and only one girl in the line up.

Name: #199
Hometown: Dongbei
Age: 24
Body: 7/10
Tits: 5/10 34
Kissing: N/A
Massage: 2/10 (a brief leg massage after the action)
AR: 6/10
BBBJ: 6/10
FJ: 7/10
GFE: 0/10
Pussy: Ok (but too much lube)
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 70 mins
Damage: 550
RTF: no

Summary: Pretty girl with strong legs and long beautiful hair, CG was notable. Nibbled at times during the slurpy/catbath, which was nice.

[FernandoAlonso]

Several girls in Manhattan yesterday told me that - as a result of the raids - they tend to arrive after midnight as at this late point of time there are no raids expected.

And in fact, after midnight the ratio men/girls improved dramatically...
Cheers, ShamucShamuc that is correct. Girls are afraid of police controlling. And as the place is packed with all kinds of people it is advisable to take a seat left from the entrance backrow. That is where the girls put their clothes so you get the first look. Some Chinese, lots of Philipine ladies, a few stunners, I think when I left 3 Mongolians came in. After midnight the girls keep floating inside in groups and the taxis line up outside (could be a scam, my girl told me better not use them and when we walked away no taxi would stop when we waived it in the surrounding, anyone has bad experiences?). You must be patient and look close, I found most girls not so sexy and as there are too many guys the few good ones go fast.

I picked a Phil gal called Pia, bad mistake. Inside she was really pretty and good shape, in the light and without clothes dropped from a 7 to a 5 at best. Small titties, belly fat residues from a pregnancy, not shaved. And worse, she does not like her job. Never heard that before. So she did not really perform, wanted to watch TV, no GFE, no BJ. So I asked what is going on you want to do your job or not. Ok, she did not want to do her job. I stayed calm, offered her taxi money and a few bucks extra for her time. A little drama and tears. I told her I do not like drama. She wanted a second chance and suddenly liked her job, at least she did it professsionally with all the moaning and some nice hipwork. So much about the I only do this for 5 days. Sure.

Of course wanted to go after one pop and as I had enough of her anyhow, did not object.

All in all with the taxi, the drinks and the whole procedure to select this is a way to expensive option, especially for one pop. She was my second runner and I get really disappointed with the famous Phil ladys. They perform more emotional than the standard Chinese providers, but it is just too much drama for me.

Damage was 1000 RMB, shame on me

FA

[Chin Mann]

Yes, I agree with Shamuc. The Tong in a couples of months it could be the real new Tongren Lu in a more fashinating situation. I visited a couple of bar X. TA. SEA and 5113. Expactation is high. Let we see what will going.

The correct address to report to the Taqxi driver is the Tong Mall, Julu Lu 158 Kao Ji Chendu Bei Lu.

Enjoy guys!Yes I agree. Very nice place with a small lake (maybe dangerous if too drunk). Almost underground. Better place then Tong Ren Lu.

Be back after Lunar Festival, all places are open by then. Have fun.

[White Dragon]

Visited G18 this week afternoon. Only one there. Great! Selection of girls limited maybe due to CNY. Chose 28. Slim. None of them were that attractive but she smiled at me. Service reasonable, nothing out of the ordinary. The establisment is good though, nice rooms, everything clean.

Went to 999 next day. Nowhere near as good. Crowded, servants practicing their English on you every 2 minutes. Fishbowl disorganized. All the girls looked away like they were bored. Chose 911. She had a somewhat pretty face but was slim. Another girl had nice tits but looked annoyed to be there. I knew 911 would be bad when I met her. No conversation. In the room she acted like a cleaner and spent what seemed like hours setting everything up. The room (and entire place) needs a re-furb. Floor boards loose, creaky bed, servants wandering around outside arguing. The washdown had nothing erotic about it. Skipped the soapie. Rim and BBBJ average. She put on some stockings. Was able to last quite a while with her so that was good. Don't think I want to visit 999 for a while. It's gone downhill. At least G18 girls are nice and the place is well decked out.

[Pizdyets]

Damage was 1000 RMB, shame on me


Don't beat yourself up, FA... it happens to the best of us occasionally.

BTW, did you try to kiss her before taking her home? That's my standard test. If they kiss well, it usually indicates that everything else will fall into place between the sheets. Most agree to a sample kiss, but a few are too shy to do it in public. In those cases, they'll usually agree to do it in the taxi with my option to return straight to the bar if they suck (I've done it a couple times).

[Laowaish]

Sorry for the repost, didn't realise I didn't upload the map. Is this where Hailang Club is?

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9897/hailangclub.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/hailangclub.jpg/)Yeah, that's your treasure map right there.

[Mike666]

Visited Sarcosa two days ago.

Number: 206
Body: 7
Face: 7
Attitude: 4
BJ: 5, CBJ
FS: 5
Massage: 7
Attitude: 5
Repeat: nope

Girl is from Yunan and just "started" working here. Seems like a lot of girls are starting. Former KTV girl from Suzhou, enjoying spending lots of money and not working too hard (didn't go out with punters during KTV days). Generally lazy.

I went there very early in the afternoon and saw a small line up. All the girls looked away from me and quite a few (there were only 5 of them) looked like they would rather be doing something else (eyes rolling). Not a good sign. The place didn't seem too busy. I believe the place may close early on NY's eve. Better gives them a call and find out.

[Pcpc1688]

Visited Sarcosa two days ago.

Number: 206
Body: 7
Face: 7
Attitude: 4
BJ: 5, CBJ
FS: 5
Massage: 7
Attitude: 5
Repeat: nope

Girl is from Yunan and just "started" working here. Seems like a lot of girls are starting. Former KTV girl from Suzhou, enjoying spending lots of money and not working too hard (didn't go out with punters during KTV days). Generally lazy.

I went there very early in the afternoon and saw a small line up. All the girls looked away from me and quite a few (there were only 5 of them) looked like they would rather be doing something else (eyes rolling). Not a good sign. The place didn't seem too busy. I believe the place may close early on NY's eve. Better gives them a call and find out.

Mike,

I woulda reported her if it was that bad. Totally unacceptable and no one should put up with it ever.

PC out

[Mike666]

Mike,

I woulda reported her if it was that bad. Totally unacceptable and no one should put up with it ever.

PC out

Sigh! I suppose you are right. I generally don't complain as it solves nothing. The girl may get fined but it doesn't buy me back that 70 mins or get me another free try. Best I can do is to leave the girl alone. I doubt she'll be around long in that sort of attitude.

On other hand, I had a scorching experience with this sichuan girl. Just to show there are still plenty of gems in Sarcosa.

[Mike666]

I've seen this girl in pasting once and have been asking for her a couple of times. Always busy. Now I know why.

Number: 198
Hometown: Sichuan
Body: 9
Tits: Maybe B-cup, but well-proportioned body
Attitude: 10, total PSE
Kissing: probably
AR: 9
BBBJ: 10
FS: 10
Repeat: yep

Click with this girl. One of the pro in Sarcosa. No complaints and just get on with the actions. She has a "sister" in the same establishment. I am seriously tempted to do a duet based on her attitude.

[FernandoAlonso]

Don't beat yourself up, FA... it happens to the best of us occasionally.

BTW, did you try to kiss her before taking her home? That's my standard test. If they kiss well, it usually indicates that everything else will fall into place between the sheets. Most agree to a sample kiss, but a few are too shy to do it in public. In those cases, they'll usually agree to do it in the taxi with my option to return straight to the bar if they suck (I've done it a couple times).That is indeed a good proposal. I like the name, even though I doubt this french guy ever kissed Pinays. I did not kiss her before, the last one I had did kiss me and was much more GFE, even though with some similar issues. So I should have learned from that. But Billy never has time for me, he prefers the Northern Sisters when he is in Beijing.

1000 seems to be the current standard LT rate and as ST seems to be around 800, I wanted to avoid the drama anf paid her to get rid of her.

FA

[Tieji]

I picked a Phil gal called Pia, bad mistake. Inside she was really pretty and good shape, in the light and without clothes dropped from a 7 to a 5 at best. Small titties, belly fat residues from a pregnancy, not shaved. And worse, she does not like her job. Never heard that before. So she did not really perform, wanted to watch TV, no GFE, no BJ. So I asked what is going on you want to do your job or not. Ok, she did not want to do her job. I stayed calm, offered her taxi money and a few bucks extra for her time. A little drama and tears. I told her I do not like drama. She wanted a second chance and suddenly liked her job, at least she did it professsionally with all the moaning and some nice hipwork. So much about the I only do this for 5 days. Sure.

FAI had a similar experience with a filipina from Manhattan. She was sweet, didn't to the watching TV thing, but did give me the sad saga of how she'd only been doing this for one week, it wasn't what she thought she'd be doing when she came to Shanghai, she didn't like her work and had to have a few drinks before she went to Manhattan to face the thought of going there.

It was all a bit much, really. I'm a bit prone to sentiment when I've had a few drinks, so I let myself be worked over by the tale of woe. (Even now, I still wonder whether it was true. If she was making it all up, then she was a great actress. Should be in Hollywood, not Manhattan.) I let her stay and we slept together but didn't have sex. She held on to me tightly all night when she slept, so it was kinda sweet, but rather unsatisfactory, and not what I thought I was getting when we were chatting in Manhattan. It's going to make me more cautious about filipinas from now on.

[Shiva Lee]

Hi everybody,

After getting some very nice information from a very friendly taxi driver, I went to this location in Xuhui district, I don't want to post now the exact location of this places for obvious reason, specialy at this time of the year before getting the agreement of some more veteran mongers of this forum. So around this place, there is approximately ten very nice shop they have a very nice window where you can see the girls right threw it. All of the girls are dressed very "sexy" making it obvious what kind of business is going on here.. You even have some cut nurse and secretary! So after walking around for a bit I entered one with a very very cut nurse, in that shop they were 4 girls, and 2 were wearing nurse outfit. The "nurse" took my hand and I followed here in a tiny little room.

So now here come the tricky part where I have much questions. The taxy driver told me it was 300 for FS, but does FS include BBBJ or CBJ or not? Cause the girl made me pay 100 more for CBJ and 50 more for the BB so in total it was 450 =(. And worst of it the girl was so hot that I think I didn't even last for 15 minutes. In sauna like Heting I can last for 40-50 minutes before releasing (ok with some break I'm not a machine) but this "b. H" sorry for my french, made me so fast! Ok I don't regret it, but still I feel a bit cheated! And specially I don't want to make other foreigner pay more because of my stupidness. And she told me it was for 30 minutes but after the shot, bye bye, pack your thing, pay and leave thank you! So could somebody enlight me about those matters? Thank you very much.

Shiva Lee.

P.S.: Damn this nurse was so hot when I doggied her while she was looking at me in the eyes!

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[Pizdyets]

1000 seems to be the current standard LT rate and as ST seems to be around 800, I wanted to avoid the drama anf paid her to get rid of her.


Haven't been in Shanghai for the past year or so, but in the three years prior I never paid more than 1000 (LT) to take a girl out of Manhattan or Judy's. Glad to hear that inflation hasn't taken hold yet.

As for paying to avoid drama - been there, done that. Life is too short to fight with hos.

Any other recommendations for picking up pros in bars? Are the higher end places still in operation (BATS, Bar Rouge, etc)? Feel free to PM me if you think The Man is lurking (and no doubt He is).

[Bonzo1]

Haven't been in Shanghai for the past year or so, but in the three years prior I never paid more than 1000 (LT) to take a girl out of Manhattan or Judy's. Glad to hear that inflation hasn't taken hold yet.

As for paying to avoid drama - been there, done that. Life is too short to fight with hos.

Any other recommendations for picking up pros in bars? Are the higher end places still in operation (BATS, Bar Rouge, etc)? Feel free to PM me if you think The Man is lurking (and no doubt He is).


I find that's about the going rate as well.

FA - don't worry about your experience. It's not a bad idea to pay to avoid drama; safety first. That s*** happens to everyone from time to time, and when it does I find the best strategy is to try to offer taxi fare and/or threaten to call the police, but if you just feel like ending it then it's easier to pay (and then report the girl here so everyone avoids her).

Happy trails.

-B-