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LukeSkywalker
05-16-12, 08:25
Thanks for the info.
Would be fun to find this night market.
Come out of the XiangXiCun alleys, and walk along JiaBin Road east. Turn right on XiangXi Road. Walk past the Bank of China ATM, and you should get to a Jia Yi Supermarket. Turn left past the supermarket, there's some kind of quickie motel there, and I think the place is called "Xiang Xi Hua Yuan". This alley has a bunch of fish places, hair salons, etc. Both in this alley and the alley that's northwest of it there are girls and a ton of touts. If you walk around around 10pm to 2am, you'll be sure to find them.
Alternatively, ask for Qian1 Li3 Xiang1 Kao3 Yu2. That's one of those fish places that's pretty well regarded.
LukeSkywalker
05-17-12, 21:34
Hi ChinaFun.
Which ones in Luohu have the best-looking girls for FS?
Would appreciate names and addresses of these fine establishments.
The last few times I have had full service it has cost me 388rmb which gave me 2 shots in 100 minutes.
I think the advertised rates is just rub and' tug service (happy ending)
Girl name: Lao Wa.
Number: 38.
Age of the girl: around 25 years old.
Face: 8/10
Body: 8/10, rather tall.
Skill: 9/10 (Good body massage, Tit sucking, Fingering, Kissing, HJ. DATY would have been an option if she did not have her periods, and BBBJ was possible for an extra 100 RMB but I did not feel like it)
Damage: 299 RMB, pretty good.
Tip: 100 RMB because she was really GFE and nice; I am sure she is laowei friendly now but she was all smiles from the start.
Timing: 90 min.
Hi everyone,
The address of this hotel is: 1033 Dongmen Road South in Luohu. Head to the 4th floor, all the way down the corridor.
The hotel is owned by the same people who run the Lushan Hotel, and the infamous Rich Baby Club.
They have the same service at the Lushan but less girls.
I went there around 11:30pm on a Friday night. People there were very friendly and one of the guy spoke English and recommended me immediately the 299 "Hong Kong" massage. Do not take the most expensive one or you will get a mask on your face and a whole bunch of beauty services but no HE. Considering the low key atmosphere, I started asking detailed question, and one of the customers was there paying his bill and did the translation for me. That was really cool. I was told that the HJ massage would only be in the last half hour or so.
I took a shower and went straight to the massage room. You can also a great foot massage.
The girls there are all 7 to 10, very good level. Some of them are really pretty, matter of luck.
They first brought me a petite but I wanted a tall girl with long legs, and I got areasonably sized one with nice legs.
She started massaging me and she was quite good. But I wanted to go straight to business and I started caressing her legs, massaging her and grabbing her butt. She liked that. I did not rush things and showed appreciation for her skills. She was quite pleased and playful. She let me touch her pussy after 25 minutes and she was definitely enjoying it, but it took time to get rid of the layers because she had her periods and was embarrassed, not me.
I started caressing her non stop: if she had not had her periods, I would have taken her quite far, not FS but who knows. She got into it big time and really had pleasure.
Then she really took great care of my butt, fingering me during the HJ from behind: she was enjoying herself and rubbing herself against my feet. She got concerned as she was really wet.
Then she sat beside me, I intensified my fingering so much that she could no longer take care of me. She was moaning as silenciously as she could and breathing hard until she came hard.
No doubt she was heard in other rooms.
Then she finished me with utmost attention and it was great.
When I tipped her, she proposed to suck me but I was done.
I did not took her number but I could have. On the way out, she was very GFE and hold me tight almost until the common room. If I was living in SZ, I would have taken her number, this girl for sure must be quite hot in private and she needs the attention. Problem is she works every day from 9pm to 8am.
I would have taken pictures but my battery was dead.
That's it. I recommend the place. Rooms are quite decent, and again, I saw a few beauties.
Have fun.
I then headed to Rich Baby nearby where I could have picked a couple of girls.
But they felt a bit young.
Good luck.
PS: Help me improve my reading access. I fell left behind when I cannot access any pic or address. Thanks.
Hi ChinaFun.
Which ones in Luohu have the best-looking girls for FS?
Would appreciate names and addresses of these fine establishments.My favourite places are actually in Futian which is a short trip from Luohu.
I would suggest the Fukuda Sauna Club in Futian district for the best looking girls.
Go to the below link for photos and address in Engish and Chinese.
http://www.casualencounterschina.com/displaycontent/content/265172778203469796
Another good place is Grand View Hotel Sauna but this is also located in Futian.
I have had some nice girls from here who offer great service.
Address: 277, Fuhua Road, Futian District,
Shenzhen, Guangdong, China.
11th Floor.
FS massage 458 yuan.
LukeSkywalker
05-20-12, 18:02
This is good info. Thanks for helping your bros in needs.
My favourite places are actually in Futian which is a short trip from Luohu.
I would suggest the Fukuda Sauna Club in Futian district for the best looking girls.
Go to the below link for photos and address in Engish and Chinese.
http://www.casualencounterschina.com/displaycontent/content/265172778203469796
Another good place is Grand View Hotel Sauna but this is also located in Futian.
I have had some nice girls from here who offer great service.
Address: 277, Fuhua Road, Futian District,
Shenzhen, Guangdong, China.
11th Floor.
FS massage 458 yuan.
Jianshe Road/Renmin Nan Road (建设路/人民南路)
Price: ¥100-130 Asian Rate (Short Time)/¥150-300 Caucasian Rate (Short Time)
Girl Quality: 5.5-7/10
Age Group: 18-24
-Action can still be found in this area opposite Luohu Cun.
Need touts to bring you up to apartment rooms to view.
Generally safe as business is conducted very discreetly similarly like in the past.
Besides PRCs also have foreign stocks available.
Luohu Cun (罗湖村)
Price: ¥100-130 Asian Rate (Short Time)/¥150-200 Caucasian Rate (Short Time)
Girl Quality: N/A
Age Group: N/A
-At 15:00hrs totally no BBS girls loitering around the back alleys at all like in the past.
Called up a trusted mamasan and was informed nowadays business must be conducted in a very low profile mode due to frequent raids.
Action starts only at night. Returned at 19:00hrs only to see police patrolling the area.
Definitely a no go in current situation due to safety aspect.
Xiangxi Cun (向西村)
Price: ¥150 Asian Rate (Short Time)/¥150-200 Caucasian Rate (Short Time)
Girl Quality: N/A
Age Group: N/A
-At 19:30hrs totally no BBS girls loitering around the back alleys at all like in the past.
Need touts to bring you up to apartment rooms to view.
Xiangxi Cun always have better quality stocks than Luohu Cun.
Not too sure about that now.
SUMMARY: In general the BBS scene in Shenzhen, Changping and Zhuhai is nothing like when compared to 4 years ago.
Authorities are trying very hard to exterminate these low end monger places as it's too in your face and open unlike the Saunas and KTVs.
One thing for sure is the BBS price in Shenzhen and Zhuhai remained the same throughout all these years!
In 2008 it was ¥130 (Short Time). In 2012 it's still ¥130 (Short Time).
BBS price in Changping is way overpriced. Currently ¥250 (Short Time) at Swan Lake Road (Tian E Hu) BBS.
There're cheaper (lesser than ¥100) BBS places in CP but I shall not go into that as the quality is below 5/10.
Nonetheless some of the Shenzhen BBS stocks are generally very attractive and good quality.
In Changping those Eurasia (Ou Ya)/Yi Hao KTV category 4-7-10 hostesses pales in comparision which is mostly 5.5-6/10 in looks.
So enjoy these last few remaining sparodic pockets of cheap BBS in South China while it lasts!
Fast Eddie 48
05-23-12, 06:47
Jianshe Road / Renmin Nan Road (&24314; &35774; &36335; /&20154; &27665; &21335; &36335.
Price: ¥100-130 Asian Rate (Short Time) /¥150-300 Caucasian Rate (Short Time)
Girl Quality: 5. 5-7/10.
Age Group: 18-24.
-Action can still be found in this area opposite Luohu Cun.
Need touts to bring you up to apartment rooms to view.
Generally safe as business is conducted very discreetly similarly like in the past.
Besides PRCs also have foreign stocks available.
Luohu Cun (&32599; &28246; &26449.
Price: ¥100-130 Asian Rate (Short Time) /¥150-200 Caucasian Rate (Short Time)
Girl Quality: N / A.
Age Group: N / A.
-At 15:00hrs totally no BBS girls loitering around the back alleys at all like in the past.
Called up a trusted mamasan and was informed nowadays business must be conducted in a very low profile mode due to frequent raids.
Action starts only at night. Returned at 19:00hrs only to see police patrolling the area.
Definitely a no go in current situation due to safety aspect.
Xiangxi Cun (&21521; &35199; &26449.
Price: ¥150 Asian Rate (Short Time) /¥150-200 Caucasian Rate (Short Time)
Girl Quality: N / A.
Age Group: N / A.
-At 19:30hrs totally no BBS girls loitering around the back alleys at all like in the past.
Need touts to bring you up to apartment rooms to view.
Xiangxi Cun always have better quality stocks than Luohu Cun.
Not too sure about that now.
SUMMARY: In general the BBS scene in Shenzhen, Changping and Zhuhai is nothing like when compared to 4 years ago.
Authorities are trying very hard to exterminate these low end monger places as it's too in your face and open unlike the Saunas and KTVs.
One thing for sure is the BBS price in Shenzhen and Zhuhai remained the same throughout all these years!
In 2008 it was ¥130 (Short Time). In 2012 it's still ¥130 (Short Time).
BBS price in Changping is way overpriced. Currently ¥250 (Short Time) at Swan Lake Road (Tian E Hu) BBS.
There're cheaper (lesser than ¥100) BBS places in CP but I shall not go into that as the quality is below 5/10.
Nonetheless some of the Shenzhen BBS stocks are generally very attractive and good quality.
In Changping those Eurasia (Ou Ya) /Yi Hao KTV category 4-7-10 hostesses pales in comparision which is mostly 5. 5-6/10 in looks.
So enjoy these last few remaining sparodic pockets of cheap BBS in South China while it lasts!To ISO 9000.
Mongering in China is not like it use to be not just Shenzhen Quality and service is getting worst and worst every yr, just go to other country like asia PI, Thailand and Indoenasia you can still get some good actions.
Fast Eddie 48
LukeSkywalker
05-23-12, 07:07
Wow. I thought ISO9000 only mongers in ChangPing and Singapore. But he does know a lot about SZ.
Is this Jianshe Road on the East side of the Shangri-La hotel?
I went up with mamasans to a few apartments North of hotel Shangri-La. They had 2 or 3 girls each and they were all butt ugly.
I had some of the prettiest and sweetest girls in China from Xiangxi-Cun.
Jianshe Road / Renmin Nan Road (&24314; &35774; &36335; /&20154; &27665; &21335; &36335.
Price: ¥100-130 Asian Rate (Short Time) /¥150-300 Caucasian Rate (Short Time)
Girl Quality: 5. 5-7/10.
Age Group: 18-24.
-Action can still be found in this area opposite Luohu Cun.
Need touts to bring you up to apartment rooms to view.
Generally safe as business is conducted very discreetly similarly like in the past.
Besides PRCs also have foreign stocks available.
Nonetheless some of the Shenzhen BBS stocks are generally very attractive and good quality.
In Changping those Eurasia (Ou Ya) /Yi Hao KTV category 4-7-10 hostesses pales in comparision which is mostly 5. 5-6/10 in looks.
So enjoy these last few remaining sparodic pockets of cheap BBS in South China while it lasts!
We're staying 3 nights at Panglin hotel. Any good FS saunas scene in the area or just in the hotel?
Thanks
John Mickey
05-30-12, 00:55
I'm staying in Royal International Hotel,
Been Wondering around, No place like Sauna,
KTV is not my Type spent alot, no F*K at all,
Anyone bros know how to walk this place? Mind to give some tips, or Website of the spa, so I can call a taxi to drive me there?
By the Way the hotel localed at Xi Xiang
And I do not know how to read Chinese wording,
LukeSkywalker
05-30-12, 15:36
Read post #4185. Tryfor5 had good services at the Haifu hotel's sauna.
Haifu Hotel 2103 East Shennan Road (Shennan Dong Lu) , Luohu District, Luohu-Dongmen, Shenzhen, China.
Any cab driver can find this hotel.
I'm staying in Royal International Hotel,
Been Wondering around, No place like Sauna,
KTV is not my Type spent alot, no F*K at all,
Anyone bros know how to walk this place? Mind to give some tips, or Website of the spa, so I can call a taxi to drive me there?
By the Way the hotel localed at Xi Xiang
And I do not know how to read Chinese wording,
John Mickey
06-01-12, 15:40
Read post #4185. Tryfor5 had good services at the Haifu hotel's sauna.
Haifu Hotel 2103 East Shennan Road (Shennan Dong Lu) , Luohu District, Luohu-Dongmen, Shenzhen, China.
Any cab driver can find this hotel.Ya LuoHu is Faaar away from XiXiang
Anyway, I believe the cab driver, and he drive me to chang"an to have a Sauna place,
But F*ck I think Malaysia PRC is better then in China
Why the export is much more in local
And also been try a model style.
RMB 1450 for the FJ
Even thou is tall but no feel
Name : forget
Height : 175 about there
One Dragon Service : Half only
Boob : 3/10 (Small but still have la about B cup, I think)
Face : 9/10 Damm Pretty Like HK super Star
Body : Nothing in front but have a very Big Backside
Age : unknown
BBJ : 8/10 Nice look on the face
WIR : NO (not Worth it)
P:S: if you want to play don't go Shenzhen.
I'm heading to SZ next weekend from the US, and would love to hang out with some cool guys, I am staying close to Haifu Hotel. Anyone interested in a meetup, I'll buy the drinks, please PM me.
I am doing a combo vacation / dating / banging trip, including visiting some sauna's and doing the outcall experience.
I met some chicks on online dating sites. Any advice? Could use some advice on how to convert them to banging me after we meet- not exactly sure a smooth way to go about this process.
Girl #1. 20 y / o. Keeps emailing me asking when I'm coming. But she doesn't want to meet at my hotel. Plain looking but possible convert to sex.
Girl #2. Early 30's, highly educated, seems semi-interested, also doesn't want to meet me at my hotel. Doubtful convert to sex.
Girl #3. Early 30's. Semi-educated. Emails me a lot. Wants to get married. She's coming to my hotel the first day I arrive. LOL. Maybe the best potential?
There are others but I've sort of narrowed down my "meet" list. I will of course report back to the SZ board how this goes.
- Launch.
Read post #4185. Tryfor5 had good services at the Haifu hotel's sauna.
Haifu Hotel 2103 East Shennan Road (Shennan Dong Lu) , Luohu District, Luohu-Dongmen, Shenzhen, China.
Any cab driver can find this hotel.
Fast Eddie 48
06-01-12, 18:12
I'm heading to SZ next weekend from the US, and would love to hang out with some cool guys, I am staying close to Haifu Hotel. Anyone interested in a meetup, I'll buy the drinks, please PM me.
I am doing a combo vacation / dating / banging trip, including visiting some sauna's and doing the outcall experience.
I met some chicks on online dating sites. Any advice? Could use some advice on how to convert them to banging me after we meet- not exactly sure a smooth way to go about this process.
Girl #1. 20 why / o. Keeps emailing me asking when I'm coming. But she doesn't want to meet at my hotel. Plain looking but possible convert to sex.
Girl #2. Early 30's, highly educated, seems semi-interested, also doesn't want to meet me at my hotel. Doubtful convert to sex.
Girl #3. Early 30's. Semi-educated. Emails me a lot. Wants to get married. She's coming to my hotel the first day I arrive. LOL. Maybe the best potential?
There are others but I've sort of narrowed down my "meet" list. I will of course report back to the SZ board how this goes.
- Launch.To Launch,
I hate to tell you SZ is dead now most of the bbs are closed down I was just here a few days ago, the dating site are a big hit and miss the only thing you might me banging is your own head on the wall, I did got some service at Sauna at Sha tusi and Ha sha most will only offer regular Hk customer FS because of Crack down all bbs and SW is mostly gone a few but serivce and quality are bad, I said just go to CP or Huizhou for KTV and sauna for some good mongering still.
Fast Eddie 48
Shoot, thanks Fast Eddie, I appreciate the advice!
I am determined to have some success withe online dating thing, but you are right, I might not have the banging that I anticipate. Haha. I'm going to try, just need to formulate a strategy.
I think in general the older the chick, the more she might be into it? And the younger ones might just be curious to meet me. Not sure.
Thanks again.
Launch.
To Launch,
I hate to tell you SZ is dead now most of the bbs are closed down I was just here a few days ago, the dating site are a big hit and miss the only thing you might me banging is your own head on the wall, I did got some service at Sauna at Sha tusi and Ha sha most will only offer regular Hk customer FS because of Crack down all bbs and SW is mostly gone a few but serivce and quality are bad, I said just go to CP or Huizhou for KTV and sauna for some good mongering still.
Fast Eddie 48
China Dolly
06-02-12, 06:58
I'm heading to SZ next weekend from the US, and would love to hang out with some cool guys, I am staying close to Haifu Hotel. Anyone interested in a meetup, I'll buy the drinks, please PM me.
I am doing a combo vacation / dating / banging trip, including visiting some sauna's and doing the outcall experience.
I met some chicks on online dating sites. Any advice? Could use some advice on how to convert them to banging me after we meet- not exactly sure a smooth way to go about this process.
Girl #1. 20 why / o. Keeps emailing me asking when I'm coming. But she doesn't want to meet at my hotel. Plain looking but possible convert to sex.
Girl #2. Early 30's, highly educated, seems semi-interested, also doesn't want to meet me at my hotel. Doubtful convert to sex.
Girl #3. Early 30's. Semi-educated. Emails me a lot. Wants to get married. She's coming to my hotel the first day I arrive. LOL. Maybe the best potential?
There are others but I've sort of narrowed down my "meet" list. I will of course report back to the SZ board how this goes.
- Launch.The girls might be working on a strategy too. If they simply meet you in your hotel room, it will give you the impression that she might be doing this with other guys too. Hence, suggest that you take them out for a drink or a meal, let them feel comfortable with you, who knows what will happen after the meeting.
I was back in the area again for business and having zero Chinese I am pretty limited in my options but I am getting to know the routine better in this area at least, sorry but my directions will still be vague but if you are in that area it's not hard to figure out.
This time I stayed in the Nan Hai Hotel which is right next to the ferry terminal, very convenient for me as I fly to Hong Kong and take the ferry direct from the airport. I stayed just a couple days when I first got there so the guy who I work with there is itching to get out, I got off the ferry at 8PM and we were in Luna Bar by 8:30, we are all friends with the owners now so we got to drinking and dicing and my buddy "Chuck" got slaughtered by the girls we were playing with. Had to pour him in a cab around 11:30 so I had a couple more then walked up the street to what they call the key bar, I don't know the actual name but it's in the same block as Martini's and to the left as you are facing it. Had a drink or two and decided to test the theory that the older woman there would try harder since she needs the business and for 300RMB it's worth a shot.
Cab back to the hotel and she's on her knees immediately ripping my pants off to blow me, good start I figure so I let her go for a while and she's doing ok, nothing spectacular so I tell her to get her clothes off and ride me. She tries but she can't seem to get a rhythm going, we try a couple other positions and she's willing to please but she's just not that attractive and I am tired so I tell her it's not going to happen and she can go. She really wants to get me off so she blows me for another 10 minutes or so but it's a lost cause. She's always in that bar and you can pick her out easily, older than the rest, tall, a little plain, if you want one that will try hard she's your girl but I can't really recommend her.
Second night was a fairly quiet night, work, dinner and a couple drinks at iBar at Seaworld then since I didn't want to screw around looking for a girl I just went back to the same bar, picked the cute young girl this time and left didn't even bother with a drink LOL. Got her back and she has a very nice little body, good BJ but you know you're in trouble when she keeps going on about how huge your cock is. Sure enough she climbs on top and within 2 minutes is begging me to cum, then she's tired, then it's too deep when I fuck her, blah blah blah. To keep her quiet for a bit I tell her to blow me again and she gets me annoyed enough to want to give her a serious pounding, I lay her on her back, put her knees on my shoulders and fuck the hell out of her for a good 10 minutes. She's yelling and screaming and thrashing around like a bad porno LOL, I was surprised security didn't show up, finally blew my load and collapsed. She's complaining again saying I broke her pussy which makes me laugh and gets her madder, wish I had a camera because it was pretty funny, end result is I gave her an extra 50 for a cab and she asks when I am going to take her again, crazy women.
Since my hotel is right next to the little alley with all the bars I usually walk through that way whenever I am going somewhere just to check the selection, there's one girl at Red Cherry Bar that jumps all over me every time I see her so on my last night I decide to have a drink with her since her english is pretty good. I get a good feeling from her and try to get her to go to my hotel, she starts going on about her boyfriend and how she can't leave work early and all these other excuses but she's kissing me the whole time and gives me her number. I give her my room number and tell her to come over when she's done work. 3AM rolls around and I get a call, she's still at work for a while and it's late and yada yada, I can't go to your hotel. Since I am awake now and I have a feeling I get dressed and walk the 2 blocks back to her bar, takes 5 minutes to get her to come back with me but she just wants to watch tv, sure no prob I say. She wants to shower and wants one of my shirts, again no prob, she crawls into bed after and says just tv, sure no prob. 10 minutes later she has her hand down my shorts and asks if I have condoms, sure no prob LOL. She's the best sex I have had in China, which isn't saying much but a nice surprise. I have to go to Tokyo and Hong Kong for a few days so she walks me to the ferry in the morning and wants me to call her as soon as I am back. I tell her since I didn't have time to take her for breakfast or get her home I'll give her a few hundred for cab and food, she's very happy and told me she didn't expect anything.
I get back to Shekou 5 or 6 days later and call her up and she still won't leave work early but is happy to come after, that gets to be the routine for the next few days, I go out and have fun, catch a couple hours sleep and then she's knocking on the door eager to boom boom. Sometimes I give her a couple hundred in the morning, sometimes nothing just to see what she'll do and it's the same no matter what, big kiss goodbye and I'll see you after work. I'm pretty happy with the situation so I just play in the bars a bit and don't bother taking anyone else home until it's almost time to go back to Canada, there's another girl that doesn't normally go with guys, especially foreigners but she keeps asking me to take her and when I ask her how much she says whatever I want. Most girls have been telling me they want 800 to a thousand even when I don't ask so I figure I should give this girl a shot, not the prettiest face and she's tiny, maybe 90lbs but for the size of her she has really nice, big tits. She works at Annie's bar at the far end of the alley, generally the only one there other than the 2 owners.
The sex is even better than the Cherry bar girl, I love a girl that is into you even if she's not the hottest, you can't fake a giant wetspot on the bed and to me it's much better when it's real instead of an act. She asked if she could spend the night and I jokingly said only if you wake me with a blowjob, sure enough I wake up to her trying to stuff all of me she can into her little mouth. She definitely more about money than the other girl, she wants to find a guy to take care of her and take her shopping in Hong Kong occasionally but honestly if I had the money and I was there more often I think I'd wife her up, in China at least but maybe not take her home to Canada.
So to sum up Nan Hai is the best hotel I have stayed so far in Shekou, standard prices but they keep it up well for an older place, it has a pool and there's no problem with girls even if they just come to your room themselves. The girl in Red Cherry bar is good but very picky about going with anyone so I don't want to give too much info on her, if you go there I am sure if you talk to them all you can pick out the good one but be careful because the bartender chick will try and pad your bill. She tried a couple times and each time I called her on it and paid the proper amount and give me every single yuan in change, which I then gave to my girl in front of her saying loudly that I never tip anyone who tries to fuck me. I also went to Why Not? A couple time trying to get Anna but still haven't managed it, Sandy the owner knows I am pissed off about them giving me the run around so she wants to go to my hotel and make it up to me. Apparently she left her boyfriend and she's pretty horny, she asked me every time I saw her and I told her not until I get Anna LOL.
One last tip: If you go to those bars I would strongly advise picking one girl to talk and drink with and just focus on her, maybe a drink or two for the owners but don't cave when they whine at you to buy rounds for all the girls. Tell the ones trying to massage you or talk to you that you only want the one girl you picked, it'll save you a lot of money and it won't affect your chances of screwing the girl you picked. If she's a normal bar girl as long as you offer her enough she will go with you, if you are lucky she's one of the picky ones that will go with you because they like you and not so much for the cash, you get better sex and pay less. So get her laughing, smell good and she'll make you happy.
Fast Eddie 48
06-03-12, 12:31
Shoot, thanks Fast Eddie, I appreciate the advice!
I am determined to have some success withe online dating thing, but you are right, I might not have the banging that I anticipate. Haha. I'm going to try, just need to formulate a strategy.
I think in general the older the chick, the more she might be into it? And the younger ones might just be curious to meet me. Not sure.
Thanks again.
Launch.To Launch,
I think older are smarter better at playing game but Ido agree they offer much better service, I am in Shekou now find some BBS around Shekou bus station 150 rmb ST back to the hotel older girl 28 service just ok, Seaworld area most bar is gone many construction buiding condo here outdoor bar area is gone not many tourist around, there are action in Shenzhen if you know
Where to go and speak Chinese, many sauna near Shui Wei village and Huanggang area for340 rmb. 400 rmb for FS but quality is not verygood.
Fast Eddie 48
LukeSkywalker
06-06-12, 01:37
About midnight, Xiang Xin Cun has many hot, sweet, young model-quality girls, in stylish clothing, walking around at night in the area in front of the hospital. There are girls sitting around in the dark alleys. Even in the day time there are a few mommies approaching guys on the street to hook up.
Hubei Xin Cun has many girls. Current rates to the hotels are 200 Y for 1 shot and 300 Y for 2 shots plus 20Y for taxi, not a bad deal. However, they are reluctant to deal with foreigners, would not go to hotels with them. I was quoted 800Y for all night, but that only includes 2 shots, so WTF?
The pink apartments area has a dozen mommies in the alley, but you have to go up to their apartments to look at the girls, most of whom are young, unattractive fresh-of-the-train country girls.
The new night market is a small courtyard. 1 block East of Xiang Xin Cun. 1 blk South of Shennan East Road, where a dozen young girls sit around all night on sidewalks, and where crowd of children and old people also hang out and play to avoid the heat in their apartments.
LukeSkywalker
06-06-12, 02:05
I have noticed outright discrimination against Caucasians for the last few years in China.
I was walking Xiang Xin Cun alleys with a nice, gentle, good-looking, athletic Caucasian bro in his 30's, who had lived in SZ for 3 years. He had a hard time finding girls who would fuck him. The girls in the alley were out kidding around with everyone, quoting 150Y for quickies, but they would not deal with this bro. When pressed, they would quote him 800Y. WTF? The poor guy walked home alone with both hands in his pockets, hehe.
Recently feelings against Caucasians seem to get even worse. Apparently rumors are floating around that lots of Chinese girls, good girls and pros, have been lied to and exploited by Caucasians. I personally witnessed a few incidents where Caucasian tourists treat the meek and gentle Chinese women badly.
Keep this info in your head and treat local people with civilized manners.
AbaloneGalore
06-06-12, 05:43
I have noticed outright discrimination against Caucasians for the last few years in China.
I was walking Xiang Xin Cun alleys with a nice, gentle, good-looking, athletic Caucasian bro in his 30's, who had lived in SZ for 3 years. He had a hard time finding girls who would fuck him. The girls in the alley were out kidding around with everyone, quoting 150Y for quickies, but they would not deal with this bro. When pressed, they would quote him 800Y. WTF? The poor guy walked home alone with both hands in his pockets, hehe.
Recently feelings against Caucasians seem to get even worse. Apparently rumors are floating around that lots of Chinese girls, good girls and pros, have been lied to and exploited by Caucasians. I personally witnessed a few incidents where Caucasian tourists treat the meek and gentle Chinese women badly.
Keep this info in your head and treat local people with civilized manners.I'm of Chinese heritage, so I don't have the problem mentioned above, but in talking with working girls, I also feel like there's been a strong shift in attitudes among girls regarding foreigners. Not so much that they won't fuck them, but prices are way up. I've gone with foreigners to all the usual BBS spots in Shenzhen and the lowest price I could get was between 200. 300, with the lower price only acceptable for the least attractive girls.
It used to be a case that mommies were against foreigner customers for big dick / communication / bad treatment bias, but now more and more, I see the actual girls are against foreigners as well. The recent well-publicized incidents in Beijing, Guangzhou, and other areas of foreigners mistreating Chinese people have a definite effect, BTW. Perception equals reality in many cases, and this is one of them.
Anyway, good luck to the foreign brothers out there, and remember that any good (and bad) action you do has repercussions beyond yourself in China.
AbaloneGalore
06-06-12, 05:53
So, I installed WeChat. I have mixed feelings. First, it is addictive. It is cool to see who is nearby. The original poster was wrong about nearby distance. It will show people as close as 100 meters, not 1000 meters. That's quite close. But I don't know how accurate it is.
The "throw a bottle" feature is interesting. You toss out a random comment anyone can pick up. The analogy is putting a message in a bottle, see who picks it up. It can end up anywhere. I got a lot of responses from Thailand. Best to say in your note where you are, and who you want responses from.
One chick that showed up nearby was showing photos of her cleavage (modest) and her crotch. So I sent her a message that was quite direct. Her identity was "prettypartygirl" so I asked her if she wanted to party. Her response was immediate: "Shut up. Asshole." A bit of a temper!
I've had much happier chats with others.
One big surprise: right after installing it, I got hailed by a massage parlor girl I visit frequently near my home. I had no idea she was on WeChat.
Negative comments: You can't select text in the girls profiles for translation. So there is no way to tell what they are posting on their profile if you can't read Chinese. Chat is different. You can translate that text.I saw this on the Beijing board and wanted to let SZ brothers know that this is also what has happened in SZ as well. I would estimate that from 30-50% of all the street girls' business (and to a lesser degree KTV and other "higher end" girls) now comes from online apps like WeChat, Momo, QQ, etc. This has many benefits including higher average price per fuck (300-600 RMB) , efficiency in finding customers, and screening out foreigners. If you use these chat programs and see usernames that imply "service","girls", etc, then there's a high chance that it is a pimp / girl pushing their services.
Hey guys. I am planning on visiting Shenzhen in early September. I am in my mid 20s asian-american with some Chinese reading skills. If I use sites like Casualencounter and other qq based sites how much do the girls usually charge for overnight stay?
Thanks in advance
On the "reasonable" end I've seen the lower level girls at around 500-600 and the average girls at 800-1000. BUT they are not truly "overnight." Some are two shots, some consistently draw the line at 4 AM, others are 3 hours. I'm sure you can get real overnight if you are willing to pay more but that's what I know so far. You could always try swinging a freebie if you're willing to put some work into it.
Hey guys. I am planning on visiting Shenzhen in early September. I am in my mid 20s asian-american with some Chinese reading skills. If I use sites like Casualencounter and other qq based sites how much do the girls usually charge for overnight stay?
Thanks in advance
On the "reasonable" end I've seen the lower level girls at around 500-600 and the average girls at 800-1000. BUT they are not truly "overnight." Some are two shots, some consistently draw the line at 4 AM, others are 3 hours. I'm sure you can get real overnight if you are willing to pay more but that's what I know so far. You could always try swinging a freebie if you're willing to put some work into it.Il try for some freebies. The problem is that I can't seem to find any girls that will fuck. They all seem to want relationships first. IE hard to do when I am only going to be in SZ for 5 days.
Is QQ still a good place?
LukeSkywalker
06-08-12, 08:07
Girls are available just about any time day or night in all 3 villages, Xiang Xi Cun, Hubei Cun and Luohu Cun.
Girls are young and some very good looking.
Mommies are out in the alleys cruising for johns.
I was back in the area again for business and having zero Chinese I am pretty limited in my options but I am getting to know the routine better in this area at least, sorry but my directions will still be vague but if you are in that area it's not hard to figure out.
So to sum up Nan Hai is the best hotel I have stayed so far in Shekou, standard prices but they keep it up well for an older place, it has a pool and there's no problem with girls even if they just come to your room themselves. The girl in Red Cherry bar is good but very picky about going with anyone so I don't want to give too much info on her, if you go there I am sure if you talk to them all you can pick out the good one but be careful because the bartender chick will try and pad your bill. She tried a couple times and each time I called her on it and paid the proper amount and give me every single yuan in change, which I then gave to my girl in front of her saying loudly that I never tip anyone who tries to fuck me. I also went to Why Not? A couple time trying to get Anna but still haven't managed it, Sandy the owner knows I am pissed off about them giving me the run around so she wants to go to my hotel and make it up to me. Apparently she left her boyfriend and she's pretty horny, she asked me every time I saw her and I told her not until I get Anna LOL.Hi Savethe7,
Don't waste your time down in old chicken street especially the Why Not bar! They are famous for being prick teasers and inflating your bill.
Head down past Seaworld to bars Like Hai Bin or Fantasy Bar where you have a bigger choice in girls and they are only 300rmb for a session. They don't want to drink so you don't get the whining. You can go to their apartments or they go to your hotel. As it is cheap you can have a couple of girls in one night to maximise your time in Shenzhen.
There are also some nice girls in Singles Bar but you need to spend quite a bit of cash before you get some pussy.
Bars to stay away from are Bottoms Up, Why Not? And Space Bar (horror stories in there!)
Hey guys. I am planning on visiting Shenzhen in early September. I am in my mid 20s asian-american with some Chinese reading skills. If I use sites like Casualencounter and other qq based sites how much do the girls usually charge for overnight stay?
Thanks in advanceIf you look Chinese it is not easy. Mainly because those who want to have fun discretely do not want local looking boys. Having said that many HK Chinese get girls although not free. They pay for the apartment and give expensive gifts. One of my business partners has a wife and kid in HK. He has a very young GF in Shenzhen. She is like a 6 out of 10 in looks. She told me her friends are looking for sponsors and could introduce me. Apart from going dancing sometimes with her friends I never took offer.
Generally I like Phi girls for uninhibited sex and english language proficiency. None of the Chinese girls I have had sex come close to Phi girls. Very few are like fuck me continously anytime you want. And I have had sex with many Chinese pros and many normal girlfriends.
Thanks ChinaFun,
Are those bars still on that main street that SeaWorld fronts on to? I am still useless finding my way around, I know how to get down to Luna Bar where I go for dinner sometimes since I know the owners now but I have not gone much further down that way. I was told there wasn't anything much down there?
LukeSkywalker
06-09-12, 12:41
China is like all other countries. The so-called "freebies" usually cost a lot more money, time and headache.
Hubei xi Cun in Luohu has many beautiful young girls who will give you any short or long-term relationships your hearts desires, for low costs.
Just take the sweet, young girls, some have model-quality looks, to the hotel for trysts. When your passion is satisfied, just pay them and find other young girls to start new "relationships."
Simple procedures but lots of guys just have to spend lots of time and money and play bullshit games, hoping to get into old, fat, rotten pussies of "freebies."
Simple procedures but lots of guys just have to spend lots of time and money and play bullshit games, hoping to get into old, fat, rotten pussies of "freebies."Hi LukeSkywalker,
I could not of said it better myself! Freebies do cost money Lunch / Dinner / Shopping trips and the constent work to keep them happy!
Never get attached to a WG as most of them will have several guys on the go. Ever wondered why they all have the latest iPhones etc.
Thanks ChinaFun,
Are those bars still on that main street that SeaWorld fronts on to? I am still useless finding my way around, I know how to get down to Luna Bar where I go for dinner sometimes since I know the owners now but I have not gone much further down that way. I was told there wasn't anything much down there?Hi Savethe7,
If you are in Luna Bar then you have a one minute walk to these bars. Go on the main street which passes Seaworld and you will see these bars.
Miami Bar, Hai Bin (go here for 300rmb single shots) , Sunstar Bar, Rainbow Bar, Singles Bar, Fantasy Bar (go here for 300rmb single shots) , Space Bar, Beer Paradise and Ghost Bar. All these bars are on the same street.
Further down and a street over you will find Hurricanes Bar, Sports 88 Bar and Ritz Bar (nice girls in here but bring the $$$).
The girls in all these bars are better looking and much nicer then bars in "Chicken Street". You also have a better chance of getting the correct bill!
Foreigners who live in Shekou prefer these bars.
Happy Punting!
Hi ChinaFun can you please give us the location to the bars you mentioned. I can see Luna Bar on google maps and others, but cannot see any of the bars you have mentioned. Please let us have some directions.
Thanks ChinaFun,
Are those bars still on that main street that SeaWorld fronts on to? I am still useless finding my way around, I know how to get down to Luna Bar where I go for dinner sometimes since I know the owners now but I have not gone much further down that way. I was told there wasn't anything much down there?
Tequila Kid
06-10-12, 21:46
Anyone recently been to Shenzhen Jin Hairun Acupressure Foot?
Wondering if its been re-opened or relocated?
Tx,
TK.
After the mixed reviews on Jinhai Run, I went back just before the new year. I got there about 4 pm (the place opens at 3) , and saw the manager Ah Yum (who doesn't speak English I'm afraid).
The deal is:
$399 for one girl. 60 mins, one shot.
$499 for one girl. 100 mins, two shots.
$599 for two girl. 100 mins, one shot with each – the deal here is that one of the two girls only stays for 30 mins.
I thought I'the give the $599 two girl package a go, altho when I've done this previously, it's usually been too much to handle and the girls interact with each other more than they do with you. Anyway, I went to a room and they presented me with a lineup. It was somewhat early so they only had 4 girls. One was small, slim, long black hair, the type I like – she was no 66. The rest were so-so-ish, but I chose a second one. I told Ah Hum I'the like 66 to stay with me the whole time, and the so-so-ish I just wanted for the first 30 mins. Fine.
The girls disappear and get ready. 66 comes back and 'prepares' me. Showers me thoro'ly then starts sucking my dick on the bed. At this juncture – about 15 mins in – the second one comes in. She didn't mess about: a quick bit of sucking, then on with the condom and hops onto the old fellow. Bit of fake squealing from her – I'm in mish with 66 kneeling behind, pushing me ('helping'). OK, I blow my load and Miss X disappears.
No 66 continues. She had been well trained: licking all over, ice and fire, rimming, crawling underneath, put a thin plastic hairnet over my feet and chewed / licked them (v hygienic! LOL)
Then she got the ole man ready for action again and brought me off a second time. I usually can't manage it twice in an hour (altho I did last time at Jin Hai Run too!). But 66 was superb. No GFE, but a real professional. I must go back and see her again.
Address:
Shenzhen Jin Hairun Acupressure Foot
3 / F, no. 100 Shenzhen Meihua Road, Futian District.
JHR is on the 3rd floor of Run Guang Lu Guan (Hotel). Altho here don't ask for anything at the front desk; ask the guys at the booth outside the entrance.
So, Jin Hai Run is well worth it, is all I can say. Drop by and give #66 one (or two) for me.
JS
Hi Savethe7,
If you are in Luna Bar then you have a one minute walk to these bars. Go on the main street which passes Seaworld and you will see these bars.
Miami Bar, Hai Bin (go here for 300rmb single shots) , Sunstar Bar, Rainbow Bar, Singles Bar, Fantasy Bar (go here for 300rmb single shots) , Space Bar, Beer Paradise and Ghost Bar. All these bars are on the same street.
Further down and a street over you will find Hurricanes Bar, Sports 88 Bar and Ritz Bar (nice girls in here but bring the $$$).
The girls in all these bars are better looking and much nicer then bars in "Chicken Street". You also have a better chance of getting the correct bill!
Foreigners who live in Shekou prefer these bars.
Happy Punting!Excellent thanks, I'll check it out next trip for sure. My friends that live there always said there was no point in going further down that street but they are all fluent in Mandarin and can get girls anywhere so they don't bother with the chicken strip style bars anymore. When we do go to the strip I think it's mostly so they can laugh at all the girls hanging off me trying to drag me in their bars, it's not so funny though when you realize all the good looking ones are outside and there's none inside.
Excellent thanks, I'll check it out next trip for sure. My friends that live there always said there was no point in going further down that street but they are all fluent in Mandarin and can get girls anywhere so they don't bother with the chicken strip style bars anymore. When we do go to the strip I think it's mostly so they can laugh at all the girls hanging off me trying to drag me in their bars, it's not so funny though when you realize all the good looking ones are outside and there's none inside.Yep, the shockers are always in the bar getting ready to say "buy me a drink?" haha!
About seven years ago there was two streets full of girlie bars and the talent was much better.
Back then it was 500 to 600rmb for overnight service which normally included unlimited shots.
Gee I spent some cash in those days.
Anyone recently been to Shenzhen Jin Hairun Acupressure Foot?
Wondering if its been re-opened or relocated?
Tx,
TK.Hi Tequila Kid,
Bad news! This place was one of my favourite places to go as you would get FS and the girls attitudes and looks were great.
I tried to go here in March and when I went up to the third floor it was all locked up. The guy in the foyer told me that the LE closed it down.
The manager at this place (with a massive mole on his face) was always helpful and was a good laugh if I had to wait for my favourite girl (s)!
If anyone knows if it has reopened in a new location please let us know.
Hi ChinaFun can you please give us the location to the bars you mentioned. I can see Luna Bar on google maps and others, but cannot see any of the bars you have mentioned. Please let us have some directions.They are all located on the main street which passes Seaworld.
If you are in Luna Bar walk out the main doors and turn to your right. Walk up to the T junction and turn left (from here you can see Choppers Bar).
Walk 300 metres and you will see the bars!
I'm coming to SZ for 4-5 days to visit a couple of friends and then leaving. I wanted to just find a girl to keep me company kinda like a gf for a couple of days. (don't tell my real gf) :P. I am asian in my mid 20s.
What do you guys recommend.
They are all located on the main street which passes Seaworld.
If you are in Luna Bar walk out the main doors and turn to your right. Walk up to the T junction and turn left (from here you can see Choppers Bar).
Walk 300 metres and you will see the bars!Hi Chinafun,
Is there any way I could contact you via email? I have some questions about Shenzhen.
Thanks
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Hi Chinafun,
Is there any way I could contact you via email? I have some questions about Shenzhen.
ThanksHi Xcalibir,
Feel free to ask me questions about Shenzhen on this forum as we are all here to help one another.
Other people may have the same questions as you.
Hope you enjoy Shenzhen and the many offerings to be had!
Downunder96
06-13-12, 16:06
If you know how to play the game. It is not that hard. You just need to know putonghua. Not all HK Chinese are stupid enough to shower the girls with apartmen and gifts.
If you look Chinese it is not easy. Mainly because those who want to have fun discretely do not want local looking boys. Having said that many HK Chinese get girls although not free. They pay for the apartment and give expensive gifts. One of my business partners has a wife and kid in HK. He has a very young GF in Shenzhen. She is like a 6 out of 10 in looks. She told me her friends are looking for sponsors and could introduce me. Apart from going dancing sometimes with her friends I never took offer.
Generally I like Phi girls for uninhibited sex and english language proficiency. None of the Chinese girls I have had sex come close to Phi girls. Very few are like fuck me continously anytime you want. And I have had sex with many Chinese pros and many normal girlfriends.
If you know how to play the game. It is not that hard. You just need to know putonghua. Not all HK Chinese are stupid enough to shower the girls with apartmen and gifts.What is the game? I am going to be in SZ for only 3-4 days. I might just go to the pink apartments and go from there.
Which hotel do you recommend that I stay at? A good value place. I heard that some places don't allow you to bring girls back?
Thanks
What is the game? I am going to be in SZ for only 3-4 days. I might just go to the pink apartments and go from there.
Which hotel do you recommend that I stay at? A good value place. I heard that some places don't allow you to bring girls back?
ThanksReally any hotel will do but make sure you bring the girl back early in the evening so it doesn't attract any attention.
If you come back late at night drunk with a girl wearing short sexy clothing then you will be questioned.
My advice try get the girl to your room before 9pm as normally there are plenty of people walking around hotel lobbies at that time.
Have Fun!
Tequila Kid
06-17-12, 04:24
ChinaFun,
I suspected as much.
Appreciate recommendations to spa / massage places with similar service offerings as Jin Hairun Acupressure Foot.
Especially something near Nanshan / Shekou or even Futian.
(I am rarely in LuoHu area)
TK.
Hi Tequila Kid,
Bad news! This place was one of my favourite places to go as you would get FS and the girls attitudes and looks were great.
I tried to go here in March and when I went up to the third floor it was all locked up. The guy in the foyer told me that the LE closed it down.
The manager at this place (with a massive mole on his face) was always helpful and was a good laugh if I had to wait for my favourite girl (s)!
If anyone knows if it has reopened in a new location please let us know.
I will be in Shenzhen for first time early next week in the Coca Park area for three days.
As time will be tight I don't want to lose time looking about for girls here for duration.
Previous threds are bit dated ie 2009.
Any pointers would be appreciated. Is 500$ going rate for 1 hour as with qq agency or
Are there better prices for same quality girls.
What would I be looking at paying if I wanted an overnight option?
Thanks in advance.
They are all located on the main street which passes Seaworld.
If you are in Luna Bar walk out the main doors and turn to your right. Walk up to the T junction and turn left (from here you can see Choppers Bar).
Walk 300 metres and you will see the bars!
AbaloneGalore
06-18-12, 20:33
Found myself in Futian district not too far from the border crossing. The area is Huanggang Cun and there are many HK guys that live here alone, with families, or with mistresses. Had some good Cantonese food at a local restaurant and then walked around before randomly settling on "Hawaii Spa". I've heard that there aren't many SWs here and the action is mostly in spa / sauna. The male captain bringing me to the room kept talking about the great service they offer, the new girls, etc. And I told him that I'm after good service rather than the most attractive girls. He sent a "good service" girl who was attractive but older, probably late 20s / early 30s. She looked pretty good in the flight attendant-style uniform but not as much without clothes with almost-nothing breasts (damn padded bras) and no real curves. On top of that, her service was terrible and she pretended to almost throw up while giving a CBJ. I literally laughed out loud which stopped one of her fake throw up attempts immediately. I willed myself to stay hard, finished with her, and left. As I went to the counter to pay, the captain asked me how it was and I cussed him out for the terrible service and he gave an immediate discount from 350 to 300 RMB. I paid and I told him that with such terrible service that he shouldn't be in business at all and his relatively meek reaction let me know that he was fully aware of the bad service offered at this spa. So, avoid this place unless you really just want FS in a safe, private environment with mediocre girls.
Does anyone hear or notice anything unusual like curfew / clean-up, etc. In Shenzhen, Zhuhai, Dongguan during the visit of President Hu to Hong Kong in the next couple of days?
Salaryman
VelvetHard
06-28-12, 18:20
Hi,
I would be staying at Futian Shangri la in early Aug. May I request the the shenzhen sexperts to help me with some good sauna's / in-call facilities nearby Futian Shangri La? Also, if I call a massage girl to the hotel for couple of hours and 2 pops, whats the going rate? I saw some independant (possibly agency) ads in casualencounterschina that its 300 rmb for massage and 1000 rmb for FS. Are these prices ok? This 300 rmb massage is actually FS? Lead kindly light!
BTW, I don't speak any Chinese language. I can only speak in English.
Cheers
Adding on to the previous reports, I just turned in my location (the option "look around") and within 5 minutes there were 4 girls messaging me asking if I needed services. Prices range from 500 or 800 for one shot (WTF) and 800-1000 for whole night. I managed to negotiate with one for whole night with 800 and also asked to meet early, so she can take me out to party, the end the night with a couple of bangs till the next morning.
Maybe you guys can get better rates? Granted this is not dongguan, but let's keep the overnight rates to 800 and below? I hate inflation.
Superforce99
07-07-12, 08:56
Adding on to the previous reports, I just turned in my location (the option "look around") and within 5 minutes there were 4 girls messaging me asking if I needed services. Prices range from 500 or 800 for one shot (WTF) and 800-1000 for whole night. I managed to negotiate with one for whole night with 800 and also asked to meet early, so she can take me out to party, the end the night with a couple of bangs till the next morning.
Maybe you guys can get better rates? Granted this is not dongguan, but let's keep the overnight rates to 800 and below? I hate inflation.Unfortunately, this is the going rate now, about 500-600 minimum for ST. In chatting with the pimps and girls I know, it's the CHINESE PUNTERS that have caused this price inflation and not the foreigners. A lot of rich dudes throw around money on purpose and even are satisfied with "dead fish service". The only way I'm able to counter this is to create semi-relationships with the girls I like and to supplement with freebies. It's a lot more time-intensive, but the p4p option is getting less and less convenient and affordable.
SF99
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07-08-12, 07:32
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Hi,
I heard there is a street where all the stores selling golf equipment are in one place. Anyone know the directions / address?
Thanks,
LAMonkey
I have not been to SZ for a few years. Still tired from the long travel, but rested enough for a fun night, I sent email to an old friend asking is she was still in the business. I got a quick response, with pics of two ladies asking for 900 an hour room delivery. I said that the quality was not in the right price performance range. We settled for 700. A few min later, a respectable 6 showed up at my door. I would guess about 30. Turns out she has an identical sister. I just wish that was on the menu.
She was a horny lady, wanting to shower after just a few min of playing while stripping the clothes off. She was pretty wet, slipped a cover on in a way that indicates she has done this a few times, and hopped on top. To me, this was a bit new as most SZ ladies prefer to just lay there and wait for you. We banged in a few positions and I finished on top of her.
After a few min rest, she started to play with ole bob and he responded. She whispered a request for 300 more, slipped another cover on and back on top. After I finished, I thought I would return the favor. She came fairly fast.
Not all bad after all. Though not a real looker, she made up for it where it counts. Much better than most of the Chinese GFs I have had back home.
The one thing that seems to be a consistent turn off with Chinese, bad breath. Not sure what it is that causes it. I simply avoid kissing and turn my head so as not to get a blast at a critical time.
This one liked to hold her ankles wide open and let me enter deep, which I enjoyed. Overall, one of the better experiences I have had in China. I will post a pic after I figure out how to do it from an iPad.
California8
07-11-12, 03:02
Hi,
I heard there is a street where all the stores selling golf equipment are in one place. Anyone know the directions / address?
Thanks,
LAMonkeyLA Monkey,
I can confirm what you have heard but I did not go there; my friend went traveled there from CP after golf for a meeting. And I can not check the location with him, a driver took him there.
What I can add is that he bought Scotty Cameron putter heads with no shafts for approximately 150rmb each. He bought a couple so he may have gotten a bit of a discount. He says they are the real thing. He did not want shafts for ease of bringing them home. Check each place, he said some of the places only have clubs with shafts.
Cal8
Ok. Thanks Cal8. I'll just ask a driver I guess.
LA Monkey,
I can confirm what you have heard but I did not go there; my friend went traveled there from CP after golf for a meeting. And I can not check the location with him, a driver took him there.
What I can add is that he bought Scotty Cameron putter heads with no shafts for approximately 150rmb each. He bought a couple so he may have gotten a bit of a discount. He says they are the real thing. He did not want shafts for ease of bringing them home. Check each place, he said some of the places only have clubs with shafts.
Cal8
Ok. Thanks Cal8. I'll just ask a driver I guess.I am interested as well. Please let me know if you figure out where it is located.
Thanks!
Moistureman
07-12-12, 11:55
First time here in SZ. Have sampled the ware in BJ and SHG but not here. Wanted to try out the outcall scene first to work out the kinks due to travel then be more adventurous
Any recs for outcall to hotel? Am staying in crowne plaza, any FS massage in walking distance?
Has anyone tried California Club?
Thanks
I have to write more later, but the online dating stuff I posted last month ended up being bad luck. The girls were not as good looking in the photos, and one lied about her age and was 5 years older than advertised.
So yeah, you guys were right who told me the online dating thing was probably not going to be successful. .
We are talking mid June. I stayed at Hotel Haifu, which I believe is in front of Xiang Xin Cun. Anyway, I didn't find it to be the case that there were tons of hot chicks walking around late at night.
I also had a really hard time finding the mama's. Because I was nervous to go to the side alleys. I finally did and was approached right away. More to post.
- Launch.
About midnight, Xiang Xin Cun has many hot, sweet, young model-quality girls, in stylish clothing, walking around at night in the area in front of the hospital. There are girls sitting around in the dark alleys. Even in the day time there are a few mommies approaching guys on the street to hook up.
Hubei Xin Cun has many girls. Current rates to the hotels are 200 Y for 1 shot and 300 Y for 2 shots plus 20Y for taxi, not a bad deal. However, they are reluctant to deal with foreigners, would not go to hotels with them. I was quoted 800Y for all night, but that only includes 2 shots, so WTF?
The pink apartments area has a dozen mommies in the alley, but you have to go up to their apartments to look at the girls, most of whom are young, unattractive fresh-of-the-train country girls.
The new night market is a small courtyard. 1 block East of Xiang Xin Cun. 1 blk South of Shennan East Road, where a dozen young girls sit around all night on sidewalks, and where crowd of children and old people also hang out and play to avoid the heat in their apartments.
The one thing that seems to be a consistent turn off with Chinese, bad breath. Not sure what it is that causes it. I simply avoid kissing and turn my head so as not to get a blast at a critical time.Probably food: garlic and onions.
I will post a pic after I figure out how to do it from an iPad.I don't think you can. I am on an iPad right now and simulated a post attaching pictures. You can't click on the usual option offered by ISG "select from your computer". The downs of Apple.
So yeah, you guys were right who told me the online dating thing was probably not going to be successful.- Launch.In Asia where it is rather easy to find P4P and most of the dating online comes from P4P, better source locally and in real.
HowsBeijing
07-16-12, 08:23
i was wondering around luohu.
i accepted an offer here from a mama standing out in front and went upstairs. did the usual elevator ride up to 12th floor and walked down to the 11th. it was pretty early in the day. maybe 5-6pm. i got into the apartment an it seemed like she was going to call some girls to come up but there was one girl on the couch. initially i thought she was like 15 and maybe someone's daughter or younger sister and either in training or reserved for select people who want '****' ish girls (duh. stupid me).
almost as an afterthought the mama asked if i waned her. i said ok.
the girls name was feifei. when i asked her name she said smt like newei or something. i don't quite remember. i do remember she said she was from wulan.
anyway, we showered to get the shenzhen sweat off of me and returned to the room. she lay down next to me and we touched a bit to start with. she was not rushed at all. then it seemed like she started breathing a little heavy like she was nervous. she said she had been in sz for only 2 months so i got worried she was a little scared or new at it but she assured me she was ok. she put her hand down there to get things going and get me ready for the rubber. she didn't do anything oral, but i didn't complain or press it, so we went straight to mish.
she was about 5'3". tight body and cute face. shoulder length hair with bangs. not totally perfect complexion but not bad. she did have a little loose pudge in her stomach which was weird because everything else was really slim. i didn't notice any stretch marks like she had had a baby or anything but she did appear to have a scar on her stomach between naval and waist (what is that by the way?)
i was content keeping it simple and staying in one position but i did get up on my knees and put her knees up to her shoulders, holding her small little thighs in my hands with a good view of everything.
she did look away a little bit but she also did wrap her arms around me when i came in closer. after the grad finale she again was not at all rushed and lay there with me for 5 min or so.
the mama asked for 200 when i initially offered 150 prior to the session. i didn't put up any resistance so i paid 200. feifei didn't ask for anything extra afterwards but i left her an extra 60 because she was nice and not rushed and possibly new.
mamasan gave me a card when i was leaving and told me to call ahead next time. here's the card.
feifei was 21 by the way. at least that's what she said. i would have been less inclined to believe it but for the little bit of tummy pudge that looked a little bit like she might have had a baby or at least been somewhat pregs at some point. but i can't be sure and again i didn't see any stretch marks to indicate a pregnancy.
anyway, worth 260.
so here's the map link, although on google maps online it shows up wrong. it's correct when i click it on my iphone.
just try searching google maps for "xinxin kindergarten" (sad, i know)
https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=22.538575.114. 123850+ (no. 9+youyi+road, +xinxin+kindergarten, +luohu+shenzhen, +guangdong+china)
HowsBeijing
07-16-12, 08:27
i was wondering around luohu.
i accepted an offer here from a mama standing out in front and went upstairs. did the usual elevator ride up to 12th floor and walked down to the 11th. it was pretty early in the day. maybe 5-6pm. i got into the apartment an it seemed like she was going to call some girls to come up but there was one girl on the couch. initially i thought she was like 15 and maybe someone's daughter or younger sister and either in training or reserved for select people who want '****' ish girls (duh. stupid me).
almost as an afterthought the mama asked if i waned her. i said ok.
the girls name was feifei. when i asked her name she said smt like newei or something. i don't quite remember. i do remember she said she was from wulan.
anyway, we showered to get the shenzhen sweat off of me and returned to the room. she lay down next to me and we touched a bit to start with. she was not rushed at all. then it seemed like she started breathing a little heavy like she was nervous. she said she had been in sz for only 2 months so i got worried she was a little scared or new at it but she assured me she was ok. she put her hand down there to get things going and get me ready for the rubber. she didn't do anything oral, but i didn't complain or press it, so we went straight to mish.
she was about 5'3". tight body and cute face. shoulder length hair with bangs. not totally perfect complexion but not bad. she did have a little loose pudge in her stomach which was weird because everything else was really slim. i didn't notice any stretch marks like she had had a baby or anything but she did appear to have a scar on her stomach between naval and waist (what is that by the way?)
i was content keeping it simple and staying in one position but i did get up on my knees and put her knees up to her shoulders, holding her small little thighs in my hands with a good view of everything.
she did look away a little bit but she also did wrap her arms around me when i came in closer. after the grad finale she again was not at all rushed and lay there with me for 5 min or so.
the mama asked for 200 when i initially offered 150 prior to the session. i didn't put up any resistance so i paid 200. feifei didn't ask for anything extra afterwards but i left her an extra 60 because she was nice and not rushed and possibly new.
mamasan gave me a card when i was leaving and told me to call ahead next time. here's the card.
feifei was 21 by the way. at least that's what she said. i would have been less inclined to believe it but for the little bit of tummy pudge that looked a little bit like she might have had a baby or at least been somewhat pregs at some point. but i can't be sure and again i didn't see any stretch marks to indicate a pregnancy.
anyway, worth 260.
here's the map link, although google maps on a computer is all screwed up. it takes you to the right place when i click it on my iphone. if it doesn't work, just try searching in google maps for "xinxin kindergarten" (sad, i know).
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=22.538575.114. 123850%20 (no. 9%20youyi%20road%20xinxin%20kindergarten%20luohu%20shenzhen%20guangdong%20china)
i was wondering around luohu.
i accepted an offer here from a mama standing out in front and went upstairs. did the usual elevator ride up to 12th floor and walked down to the 11th. it was pretty early in the day. maybe 5-6pm. i got into the apartment an it seemed like she was going to call some girls to come up but there was one girl on the couch. initially i thought she was like 15 and maybe someone's daughter or younger sister and either in training or reserved for select people who want '****' ish girls (duh. stupid me).
almost as an afterthought the mama asked if i waned her. i said ok.
the girls name was feifei. when i asked her name she said smt like newei or something. i don't quite remember. i do remember she said she was from wulan.
anyway, we showered to get the shenzhen sweat off of me and returned to the room. she lay down next to me and we touched a bit to start with. she was not rushed at all. then it seemed like she started breathing a little heavy like she was nervous. she said she had been in sz for only 2 months so i got worried she was a little scared or new at it but she assured me she was ok. she put her hand down there to get things going and get me ready for the rubber. she didn't do anything oral, but i didn't complain or press it, so we went straight to mish.
she was about 5'3". tight body and cute face. shoulder length hair with bangs. not totally perfect complexion but not bad. she did have a little loose pudge in her stomach which was weird because everything else was really slim. i didn't notice any stretch marks like she had had a baby or anything but she did appear to have a scar on her stomach between naval and waist (what is that by the way?)
i was content keeping it simple and staying in one position but i did get up on my knees and put her knees up to her shoulders, holding her small little thighs in my hands with a good view of everything.
she did look away a little bit but she also did wrap her arms around me when i came in closer. after the grad finale she again was not at all rushed and lay there with me for 5 min or so.
the mama asked for 200 when i initially offered 150 prior to the session. i didn't put up any resistance so i paid 200. feifei didn't ask for anything extra afterwards but i left her an extra 60 because she was nice and not rushed and possibly new.
mamasan gave me a card when i was leaving and told me to call ahead next time. here's the card.
feifei was 21 by the way. at least that's what she said. i would have been less inclined to believe it but for the little bit of tummy pudge that looked a little bit like she might have had a baby or at least been somewhat pregs at some point. but i can't be sure and again i didn't see any stretch marks to indicate a pregnancy.
anyway, worth 260.
here's the map link, although google maps on a computer is all screwed up. it takes you to the right place when i click it on my iphone. if it doesn't work, just try searching in google maps for "xinxin kindergarten" (sad, i know).
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=22.538575
114. 123850%20 (no. 9%20youyi%20road%20xinxin%20kindergarten%20luohu%20shenzhen%20guangdong%20china) sounds like a great bargain for 260 rmb = 45 usd.
i'm taking a week long trip to sz next month. i can't wait. i'm a little nervous about going into someone's apartment though. how safe is it to monger in the alleys?
i've read in the dongguan post that there have been people that went to the wrong bbs and got robbed out of a lot of cash.
i guess the odds of that happening are prob the same as getting hit by a bus?
thanks
HowsBeijing
07-18-12, 16:18
sorry, i wrote "mamasan gave me a card, here's the card" in my report below, but i didn't upload the card bc not supposed to post contact info here. i can send the number from the card in privateers sage if anyone wants it but i don't think it'd be any use if you don't speak fluent chinese. but who knows.
i was wondering around luohu.
i accepted an offer here from a mama standing out in front and went upstairs. did the usual elevator ride up to 12th floor and walked down to the 11th. it was pretty early in the day. maybe 5-6pm. i got into the apartment an it seemed like she was going to call some girls to come up but there was one girl on the couch. initially i thought she was like 15 and maybe someone's daughter or younger sister and either in training or reserved for select people who want '****' ish girls (duh. stupid me).
almost as an afterthought the mama asked if i waned her. i said ok.
the girls name was feifei. when i asked her name she said smt like newei or something. i don't quite remember. i do remember she said she was from wulan.
anyway, we showered to get the shenzhen sweat off of me and returned to the room. she lay down next to me and we touched a bit to start with. she was not rushed at all. then it seemed like she started breathing a little heavy like she was nervous. she said she had been in sz for only 2 months so i got worried she was a little scared or new at it but she assured me she was ok. she put her hand down there to get things going and get me ready for the rubber. she didn't do anything oral, but i didn't complain or press it, so we went straight to mish.
she was about 5'3". tight body and cute face. shoulder length hair with bangs. not totally perfect complexion but not bad. she did have a little loose pudge in her stomach which was weird because everything else was really slim. i didn't notice any stretch marks like she had had a baby or anything but she did appear to have a scar on her stomach between naval and waist (what is that by the way?)
i was content keeping it simple and staying in one position but i did get up on my knees and put her knees up to her shoulders, holding her small little thighs in my hands with a good view of everything.
she did look away a little bit but she also did wrap her arms around me when i came in closer. after the grad finale she again was not at all rushed and lay there with me for 5 min or so.
the mama asked for 200 when i initially offered 150 prior to the session. i didn't put up any resistance so i paid 200. feifei didn't ask for anything extra afterwards but i left her an extra 60 because she was nice and not rushed and possibly new.
mamasan gave me a card when i was leaving and told me to call ahead next time. here's the card.
feifei was 21 by the way. at least that's what she said. i would have been less inclined to believe it but for the little bit of tummy pudge that looked a little bit like she might have had a baby or at least been somewhat pregs at some point. but i can't be sure and again i didn't see any stretch marks to indicate a pregnancy.
anyway, worth 260.
here's the map link, although google maps on a computer is all screwed up. it takes you to the right place when i click it on my iphone. if it doesn't work, just try searching in google maps for "xinxin kindergarten" (sad, i know).
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=22.538575
114. 123850%20 (no. 9%20youyi%20road%20xinxin%20kindergarten%20luohu%20shenzhen%20guangdong%20china)
Hey guys. I m going to be in SZ in mid August for about 10 days. Anyone want to meet up? Also a possible trip to Dongguan too. Can speak Chinese and read but not local.
PM me!
Thanks
HowsBeijing
07-21-12, 07:54
So I recently stayed at the Holiday Inn Express Luohu (No. 6, Guiyuan North Road).
Hanging around across the street all night is a lady hounding every guy that she sees and handing out the usual business cards with a beautiful girl on them and a phone number.
After running some groceries up to my room I came back out and went up to her. I was actually hoping to be led up to an apartment nearby rather than wait for someone come to my room, but this was an outcall gig.
She called the number on her phone and put a guy on who spoke English. He said the usual "beautiful young miss". He demanded 400RMB. I tried for 300, but he didn't move, so I said no thanks and hung up. Then I told the lady 400 was ok and gave her my room number and went back upstairs.
When I got on the elevator in the lobby, there was a smoking hot young WG waiting there texting on her phone. She didn't get on the elevator to go up when I got on so she was presumably waiting for instructions or for someone to come down and get her. So I was hopeful that I'd get talent of equal quality.
Not the case.
I didn't wait long. Maybe 20 minutes, and I got a knock. The girl was NOT young NOR beautiful. Big boobs were about the only thing I wanted to look at on her when she came in, but they were big because the rest of her was a bit chunky. Bad teeth. Bad face. A little weathered. Overall I'd rate her a 3, maybe 4.
I entertained the idea for a moment, figuring I'd just get a quick nut and go to bed since she was already there in the room. She quickly asked for the money up front, and I quickly changed my mind and told her to fuck off. She wasn't worth it. Especially not on the chance that she'd try to upsell once I had given her the 400.
I could tell this girl gets sent home pretty often because she didn't seem surprised, although she did get a little bitchy when I was trying to get her to leave and finally saying "Tsai jian" to her to get her out. She asked for 30 for taxi money, which I gave her and sent her on her way.
Anyway, who knows who else these guys have. Maybe if I'd called back pissed off they'd have a real beautiful young miss to send, but I wasn't interested in giving them a second chance.
The number on the card is 13632543508. I wouldn't call if you see that number anywhere.
LukeSkywalker
07-22-12, 23:41
Walk outside any major SZ hotels at night and you will be accosted by old women selling young girls.
I went outside of the Worst Western Felicity one night about 10PM and was immediately accosted noisily by 5 men and 1 woman. I walked down the dark and deserted street on the West side the train station, hoping to run into some good-looking young girls but, the street was dark and totally empty. The woman followed me past the restaurants with no customers, talking to me in Chinese which I did not understand, but I assumed she was selling pussies. I turned back to the hotel and she followed me back.
Finally I asked her how much for the girls, she wanted 400 RMB. I haggled with her and she agreed on 200 RMB for ST. I hung out on that dark street waiting for the girl, watching the crowd of sex touts bidding noisily with every guy walking past the hotel's gate.
In about 15 minutes, a fairly pretty, small-frame, young girl was delivered to the gate by a guy pedaling a bicyle. I took a good look at the girl and agreed to take her upstairs. They must have plucked her out of the pink apartments on the other side of the train station. The security guy at the door was giving me a hostile look, but I could careless. I was so horny I could have fucked him up his ass if the young girl did not show up.
Took the girl to the room. She had a small-frame, unblemished body with a pretty face and sweet and sexy demeanors. Did not take long for me to blow my load. Bargained with her for a second shot for 100 Rmb, which she immediately agreed. It was very nice ravaging that her tight, young body.
The next afternoon, asked the hotel concierge for a recommendation for a good sauna / massage place. She wrote down name and address on a card and called a taxi for us. The sauna / massage place was a high-class joint, all the way across town on the Westside of SZ, about 25 miles away. The taxi ride took about 1 hour in traffic.
The sauna girl from Hubei was very sexy and good-looking. She washed and steamed me then gave me a nonstop and extremely sensual HJ for half an hour, but I could not come unless I could stick my dick into her pussy. I could not convince her to spread her legs regardless of the amount, so just gave up.
The Worst Western Felicity bills itself as a hotel for families from both sides of the border. Large tour groups stay there with their clunky tour buses and loads of bad-looking HK families with noisy kids. Would not recommend mongers to stay in any hotel West of the train station.
HungryRapaNui
07-23-12, 15:32
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LukeSkywalker
07-23-12, 17:42
it was grossly unfair.
i gave the young girl extremely pleasurable sexual experiences in bed. she's probably still dreaming about the extremely erotic seessions she had with me.
she should have to pay me big money instead.
did anybody else read that imagining some white ugly, overweight, hairy white guy basically [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a young chinese girl? i think i puked a little in my mouth.
LukeSkywalker
07-23-12, 18:05
it was a nice, fun, good-looking, loving young guy, who just loves to give young chinese girls their most intense sexual experiences in bed.
did anybody else read that imagining some white ugly, overweight, hairy white guy basically [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a young chinese girl? i think i puked a little in my mouth.
did anybody else read that imagining some white ugly, overweight, hairy white guy basically [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a young chinese girl? i think i puked a little in my mouth.it turned me on! the force is strong in that one.
did anybody else read that imagining some white ugly, overweight, hairy white guy basically [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a young chinese girl? i think i puked a little in my mouth.frankly that thought never crossed my mind. especially when according to the report, she agreed to a second round! what made me "ill" was the inferences you made relative to ethnic background, etc.
pretty sure that you don't have any of the above characteristics you describe, maybe you never will, but it is amazing how things can creep up on a person.
of course. more and more chinese people have money and foreign people are actually seen by the chinese girls as obnoxious and cheap.it seems you view foreigners this way especially with your other post about fat ugly white guys [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) young chinese girls.
are you indeed a foreigner in china or a chinese trolling.
teltel
Are hotels generally a place to store your belongs without having thieves or possibly the cleaning maid to steal your belongings. If not, the anyone got any advice?
As a traveler, I believe most people here would leave their stuff including money in their hotel room.
LukeSkywalker
07-24-12, 06:29
What I wanted was those sauna and massage places that offer young, pretty girls who would do all kinds of kinky sex in the room.
Luohu has hundreds of those sauna / massage places. Everywhere you walk, you would find sauna and massages with pretty, young girls standing outside on the sidewalk, wooing johns.
The big, fat, ugly concierge at the Worst Western must have been rejected by every man in China. She probably had not had sex in years if not all in her life. She therefore just hates people who fuck girls in her hotel. In =stead of the sexy massage joints with loads of young, sexy girls in Luohu, she sent me and my colleague all the way across town to a massage joint in Nanshan where beautiful massage girls just refused to do sex.
We were basically fucked by an ugly girl who has no concept of giving the horny customers what he wants. The moral is never to stay in hotels with old, ugly, sexless women in reception. They will take revenge and make sure you get zero pieces of asses for your whole stay.
The next afternoon, asked the hotel concierge for a recommendation for a good sauna / massage place. She wrote down name and address on a card and called a taxi for us. The sauna / massage place was a high-class joint, all the way across town on the Westside of SZ, about 25 miles away. The taxi ride took about 1 hour in traffic.
The sauna girl from Hubei was very sexy and good-looking. She washed and steamed me then gave me a nonstop and extremely sensual HJ for half an hour, but I could not come unless I could stick my dick into her pussy. I could not convince her to spread her legs regardless of the amount, so just gave up.
HungryRapaNui
07-24-12, 18:49
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Clandestine782
07-24-12, 21:50
it seems you view foreigners this way especially with your other post about fat ugly white guys [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) young chinese girls.
are you indeed a foreigner in china or a chinese trolling.
teltelum, obviously a grumpy local chinese man trolling (witness the poor english). thank god for the ignore button.
I think it was suppose to be a joke and people are taking it too seriously.
Are hotels generally a place to store your belongs without having thieves or possibly the cleaning maid to steal your belongings. If not, the anyone got any advice? As a traveler, I believe most people here would leave their stuff including money in their hotel room.Ever heard of safe boxes in the hotel room?
Upscale girls in SZ.
Hi Everyone! My second post.
I've been trying to "RTFF" as I am quite new to mongering. I was here in SZ a couple of months ago and had my first international sex experience. The girl was quite enthusiastic and had a good attitude, but she wasn't that attractive and the sex as merely ok. If I can recall her details I'll post a full report.
I've been reading about Hubei Xin Cun and other places. For me (I'm a white Canadian by the way) , I'm not really looking to spend as little as possible to get laid. I'm mainly interested in finding girls that are very attractive (8 to 10 on looks) who have good attitudes and aren't dead fish in bed. The cost really isn't an issue. In fact, if the girl is like this and we have chemistry, I would like to have her as a GF for a few days.
I'm wondering if you might have some advice on how to find more upscale girls like this? I'm guessing that alleys with SW's are going to be the source for such girls.
YourLastDays
07-29-12, 12:00
Upscale girls in SZ.
Hi Everyone! My second post.
I've been trying to "RTFF" as I am quite new to mongering. I was here in SZ a couple of months ago and had my first international sex experience. The girl was quite enthusiastic and had a good attitude, but she wasn't that attractive and the sex as merely ok. If I can recall her details I'll post a full report.
I've been reading about Hubei Xin Cun and other places. For me (I'm a white Canadian by the way) , I'm not really looking to spend as little as possible to get laid. I'm mainly interested in finding girls that are very attractive (8 to 10 on looks) who have good attitudes and aren't dead fish in bed. The cost really isn't an issue. In fact, if the girl is like this and we have chemistry, I would like to have her as a GF for a few days.
I'm wondering if you might have some advice on how to find more upscale girls like this? I'm guessing that alleys with SW's are going to be the source for such girls.You do realize the girls you described are usually taken by people worth high 7 figures. 8 figures right (and I mean in USD)? People buy cars for those kind of girls out of impulse. Shenzhen is the highest per capita GDP city in China outside of HK. You're out of your depth.
Orangutan007
07-29-12, 14:00
I'm not really looking to spend as little as possible to get laid. I'm mainly interested in finding girls that are very attractive (8 to 10 on looks) who have good attitudes and aren't dead fish in bed. The cost really isn't an issue. In fact, if the girl is like this and we have chemistry, I would like to have her as a GF for a few days.I've heard of Indonesian / Malaysian Chinese dropping 70k RMB in a short duration, say a week, on those caliber of girls. A lot of attractive WGs own cars. Is that around the neighborhood of what you're willing to spend?
LukeSkywalker
07-29-12, 18:25
Is this Hungryrapanui reincarnated?
You do realize the girls you described are usually taken by people worth high 7 figures. 8 figures right (and I mean in USD)? People buy cars for those kind of girls out of impulse. Shenzhen is the highest per capita GDP city in China outside of HK. You're out of your depth.
I've heard of Indonesian / Malaysian Chinese dropping 70k RMB in a short duration, say a week, on those caliber of girls. A lot of attractive WGs own cars. Is that around the neighborhood of what you're willing to spend?It's so weird that people interpreted my question as implying that money is no object. My point was that my budget wasn't 400 RMB. That I am fine spending more for an above average girl.
Could I spend 10k RMB a day on a GF? Yes. Would I spend that much? No. It seems like there are a lot of newly rich Chinese throwing around (away) money. I honestly don't understand that, just as I don't understand people spending 10k USD on a watch. There are some serious diminishing returns once you get to a certain point. In many places you can find very attractive girls without blowing a ton of money.
LukeSkywalker
07-30-12, 08:21
Some useless old farts may take anonymous insults in the net as a matter of death before dishonor.
I think it was suppose to be a joke and people are taking it too seriously.
HungryRaps
07-30-12, 12:10
I honestly don't understand that, just as I don't understand people spending 10k USD on a watch. There are some serious diminishing returns once you get to a certain point. In many places you can find very attractive girls without blowing a ton of money.A lot of people spend 10k on a watch, because it's like you spending $200 on a watch. If you're even thinking about achieving some kind of economic value, or paying reasonably for a high-caliber girl, then it's not your market. Most people's opinion of an attractive girl here is probably an objective 5. 5 or 6. You want the objective 8-10s, you better be at an income level the equivalent of a vice president at a bulge bracket investment bank ($500k USD / yr). And if you're at that level, you have zero need to be in China for sex tourism.
Upscale girls in SZ.
Hi Everyone! My second post.
I've been trying to "RTFF" as I am quite new to mongering. I was here in SZ a couple of months ago and had my first international sex experience. The girl was quite enthusiastic and had a good attitude, but she wasn't that attractive and the sex as merely ok. If I can recall her details I'll post a full report.
I've been reading about Hubei Xin Cun and other places. For me (I'm a white Canadian by the way) , I'm not really looking to spend as little as possible to get laid. I'm mainly interested in finding girls that are very attractive (8 to 10 on looks) who have good attitudes and aren't dead fish in bed. The cost really isn't an issue. In fact, if the girl is like this and we have chemistry, I would like to have her as a GF for a few days.
I'm wondering if you might have some advice on how to find more upscale girls like this? I'm guessing that alleys with SW's are going to be the source for such girls.I am not sure about SZ, but I think it is true everywhere, the upscale girls can only be found in high end ktvs. I found one such myself and have been keeping her as my GF for a year now. I don't need to buy her a car as I convinced her better save the money to buy an apartment. She is really hot and the sex with her was better then anything I had experienced in my life, and yes, she is very expensive, and even then, I have to go through 5 other girls like her before I decided that she was the one, since finding a really hot girl who is very much into you and great in bed is not a simple task, even if money is not an issue.
OS
New to China. On my first visit. Will be staying at the Ritz Carlton.
Any suggestions for quality venues?
HungryRaps
07-31-12, 16:42
Some useless old farts may take anonymous insults in the net as a matter of death before dishonor.I think "honor" is probably as foreign to you as "virginity" is to WGs.
LukeSkywalker
08-01-12, 02:54
Pretty young Chinese girls honor me all the time by doing some of the kinkiest sex.
I feel highly honored when I am on top of these girls, thrusting my hard dick into their pussies, giving them the most intense pleasures, watching their pretty faces glow in blissfulness and gratitude.
Guys, who can only date Ms. Rosie Palm, are usually insanely jealous of me.
I think "honor" is probably as foreign to you as "virginity" is to WGs.
WillyWonker
08-02-12, 13:25
Recently stayed in Futian, Shenzhen for a few days. Bouncing around the internet, came across a site referencing all the local MP's. Based on the advertisement, which clearly states the price of 468 and FS, decided to head over to the Grand View hotel. It's a 10 minute stroll due east from the Sheraton, on the opposite side of the road, Fuhua. Went to floor 11 as instructed, and approached the desk. Clearly, we were going to have a lanuage barrier. FS was not on the posted menu, so I settled for regular full body massage for 268 just to get things going. Went through the locker room, into the shower area, and was given shorts and a shirt to put on. Followed a dude through the sitting area and immediately to a private room, where negotiations commenced. Played a terrible game of adult charades and lets make a deal. When I got my point across about full service, he grabbed a pad of paper and wrote 1400. I replied with 468. It seemed we'd never get to an agreement, so I settled on the original 268 + 100 for a full massage plus HE. Massage was pretty bad. HE was pretty standard. Girl wanted me to fill out a form on the way out, and to check a box indicating her tip, of 20, 50, 100, etc. For her services. I was sticking to my agreement, and told her I'd pay on the way out. Locker room guy then tried to extract a tip, showing me his phone with the english "we don't get paid, we work for tips". I explained that I would pay him the 100, and 268 at the desk, as agreed. He indicated that was okay. Gave him 100, and then of course the desk wanted 368. I gave them 268 and told them the locker room guy had the rest of it. Stuck to my deal and left.
All-in-all, not a good experience. Might be alright if you can negotiate in Mandarin, but as a foreigner, too difficult. I won't return.
Oh, and no sauna or spa that I saw, although they may have been steering me clear of it.
Willy
Hey guys,
I'm visiting shenzhen soon. Have been there few time only for small day trip meeting whilst on my trips to guangzhou. The columbians, blacks and asian collection of women to choose from in Guangzhou is excellent. However, I have no clue about sz. I am a big fan of sauna action. I like to choose my girl.
Can anyone please recommend a few such clubs / places in shenzhen? Something similar to the ones like KAMA in Guangzhou?
Thanks buddy!
Sam
To all the brothers in SZ.
I am in SZ now and will be here for 2 weeks.
I met a pimp yesterday and he recommended me some ladies going 600. 1000Rmb / shot.
I take the 700 one and the services was sucks, yet the girl ask me for transportation tips before leaving and I told her that her services was bad and does not deserve 700 rmb.
She is rude and she don't even share with me her name. She ask me if I wanted to look for another girl and she can recommended to me.
"I said no to her as the service may same as you".
Her appearance was 5/10 only really not worth for 700.
I really appreciate if anyone has any contact and can share with me for the ladies with GF feel which is less than 500 / shot.
Thank you in advance.
I haven't been on the board in a couple of years and I got to say. Some of you people are insane. You don't need a million dollars to score a hottie. That's ridiculous. Even in the US, I see hot chicks with poor guys all the time. When I lived in SZ, I had a hot KTV girl live next door, her BF was a waiter who spent his days playing video games at the net bar. She paid for everything. If you're on the lookout for a model quality hooker, yeah you can find them. You just got to know where to go. It won't be a 400RMB fuck, but it won't be 10K USD deal either. I guess I should mention, if you don't know anybody who can set you up, you really gotta speak some Mandarin, or else you're gonna end up calling one of numbers in those cards they hand out and more than likely, you'll get some ugly over the hill hooker who can't get a gig with the natives and has to settle for the foreigners. That excludes the small percentage of guys who can score anywhere in the world without even talking. If you're all that, go to Club Chocolate, if it's still open.
Recently stayed in Futian, Shenzhen for a few days. Bouncing around the internet, came across a site referencing all the local MP's. Based on the advertisement, which clearly states the price of 468 and FS, decided to head over to the Grand View hotel. It's a 10 minute stroll due east from the Sheraton, on the opposite side of the road, Fuhua. Went to floor 11 as instructed, and approached the desk. Clearly, we were going to have a lanuage barrier. FS was not on the posted menu, so I settled for regular full body massage for 268 just to get things going. Went through the locker room, into the shower area, and was given shorts and a shirt to put on. Followed a dude through the sitting area and immediately to a private room, where negotiations commenced. Played a terrible game of adult charades and lets make a deal. When I got my point across about full service, he grabbed a pad of paper and wrote 1400. I replied with 468. It seemed we'd never get to an agreement, so I settled on the original 268 + 100 for a full massage plus HE. Massage was pretty bad. HE was pretty standard. Girl wanted me to fill out a form on the way out, and to check a box indicating her tip, of 20, 50, 100, etc. For her services. I was sticking to my agreement, and told her I'd pay on the way out. Locker room guy then tried to extract a tip, showing me his phone with the english "we don't get paid, we work for tips". I explained that I would pay him the 100, and 268 at the desk, as agreed. He indicated that was okay. Gave him 100, and then of course the desk wanted 368. I gave them 268 and told them the locker room guy had the rest of it. Stuck to my deal and left.
All-in-all, not a good experience. Might be alright if you can negotiate in Mandarin, but as a foreigner, too difficult. I won't return.
Oh, and no sauna or spa that I saw, although they may have been steering me clear of it.
WillyVery rarely there is full service in massage parlors. Sometimes they do hand jobs under the covers. All the cubicles have glass doors between treatment rooms. So it is not easy.
I knew couple of places where they had private rooms for full service but they were closed down by the police. It is always better to take street mamasan girls to your hotel room. If you are not staying in a hotel there are short time hotels cheap.
There was a time when no tip was expected. Nowadays all ask for tips. Maybe you paid 100 for hand release.
Just for massage usual tip is 20-50. Only 10 for the locker room guy.
There are some girls who speak passable english. Just ask them for their phone number. They will come to your room when they are off duty.
There are posted rates for massages. Local people never pay any attention to it. Everything is negotiated.
I am not sure about SZ, but I think it is true everywhere, the upscale girls can only be found in high end ktvs. I found one such myself and have been keeping her as my GF for a year now. I don't need to buy her a car as I convinced her better save the money to buy an apartment. She is really hot and the sex with her was better then anything I had experienced in my life, and yes, she is very expensive, and even then, I have to go through 5 other girls like her before I decided that she was the one, since finding a really hot girl who is very much into you and great in bed is not a simple task, even if money is not an issue.
OSThis kind of situation, can't lead to anything good. I forgot who, but there used to be a guy on the board who used to tell everybody the 3 rules for finding hookers,"Find 'them, Fuck 'them, Forget 'them." He called it "The 3 FS." I have no idea how much you're paying the girl, but I'm guessing it's in the 20kRMB / month range, maybe even more, which would be very generous / silly depending on your point of view. Anyway, most guys who end up in these kinds of situations are emotionally vulnerable for some reason, maybe recently separated or somebody died or whatever. They find a hot chick who seems interested in them, and they get all lovey dovey. Just never forget, she's there because you're PAYING her. You stop paying her, she's GONE. Once you realize that, you'll also realize,"hmmmmmmmm. Maybe giving some hooker $3000 every month isn't such a great idea since I could get a bunch of other girls with that money." Even if the girl is great in bed, and you like her, just have her on standby. Then you can have best of both worlds, fuck her whenever you want, and fuck other girls too. Sometimes, ala carte is better than the set meal.
I haven't been on the board in a couple of years and I got to say. Some of you people are insane. You don't need a million dollars to score a hottie. That's ridiculous. Even in the US, I see hot chicks with poor guys all the time. .That excludes the small percentage of guys who can score anywhere in the world without even talking. If you're all that, go to Club Chocolate, if it's still open.Totally agreed with your post. There are many ways to score with great looking women. Without spending a lot of class. Throwing money is just a foolish thing to do. Really.
OldAsiaHand
08-17-12, 04:04
To all the brothers in SZ.
I am in SZ now and will be here for 2 weeks.
I met a pimp yesterday and he recommended me some ladies going 600. 1000Rmb / shot.
I take the 700 one and the services was sucks, yet the girl ask me for transportation tips before leaving and I told her that her services was bad and does not deserve 700 rmb.
She is rude and she don't even share with me her name. She ask me if I wanted to look for another girl and she can recommended to me.
"I said no to her as the service may same as you".
Her appearance was 5/10 only really not worth for 700.
I really appreciate if anyone has any contact and can share with me for the ladies with GF feel which is less than 500 / shot.
Thank you in advance.Kevin,
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. ST at 700RMB for that kind of action is way over the top. You should be paying 300-400 RMB max from the pimps, even cheaper if you know the right places and negotiate.
I will be in SZ next week. PM me if you want to tag along. You can never be sure if you will get GFE but you can surely do better than 700 RMB ST.
OAH
Kevin,
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. ST at 700RMB for that kind of action is way over the top. You should be paying 300-400 RMB max from the pimps, even cheaper if you know the right places and negotiate.
I will be in SZ next week. PM me if you want to tag along. You can never be sure if you will get GFE but you can surely do better than 700 RMB ST.
OAHOAH,
I don't think "Kevin28" can PM you unless he upgrades to a paid membership. It was nice of you to show a newbie around but the guy only has 1 post and you are meeting him ?
In my opinion he should read the forum more and post something more about himself.
OldAsiaHand
08-17-12, 05:28
OAH,
I don't think "Kevin28" can PM you unless he upgrades to a paid membership. It was nice of you to show a newbie around but the guy only has 1 post and you are meeting him?
In my opinion he should read the forum more and post something more about himself.Weelock,
I felt sorry for the guy for being ripped off so and I am in a generous mood this week. I planned to try to learn more about him via PM before I meet him provided he has made the effort to become a paid member as you say.
Just my POV.
OAH
Moody,
I live in SZ, next to Guomao. Where do you find these model quality hookers? BTW, I speak Mandarin pretty well.
I haven't been on the board in a couple of years and I got to say. Some of you people are insane. You don't need a million dollars to score a hottie. That's ridiculous. Even in the US, I see hot chicks with poor guys all the time. When I lived in SZ, I had a hot KTV girl live next door, her BF was a waiter who spent his days playing video games at the net bar. She paid for everything. If you're on the lookout for a model quality hooker, yeah you can find them. You just got to know where to go. It won't be a 400RMB fuck, but it won't be 10K USD deal either. I guess I should mention, if you don't know anybody who can set you up, you really gotta speak some Mandarin, or else you're gonna end up calling one of numbers in those cards they hand out and more than likely, you'll get some ugly over the hill hooker who can't get a gig with the natives and has to settle for the foreigners. That excludes the small percentage of guys who can score anywhere in the world without even talking. If you're all that, go to Club Chocolate, if it's still open.
Irv Washington
08-27-12, 16:45
I had 2 good sessions in Shenzhen for 200 RMB each time, using WLs I was brought to by the mamasans near the Shangrila Hotel.
Both times were in daytime (mid afternoon). I wasn't sure if the mamasans would be out at that time but it turned out there were quite a few! Especially near the '7 Eleven' store on the street that runs alongside the Shangrila hotel's main entrance.
While the mamasans were out in the afternoon, there weren't many WLs to choose from at that time. The first day I went, a mamasan brought me to an apartment with only 1 WL but that was fine as the lady was fine. Around 30, attractive, good body. Service was fine too, BJ, her on top, me on top. 200 RMB.
Next day, I went around the same time, and told the same mamasan I'the like a younger lady, around 20 to 25. The mamasan took me to an apartment with 2 young cuties. I choose 1 and got similar service to the day before for 200 RMB. The lady I chose told me she was 23 years old and from Wuhan.
Nice time in Shenzhen!
Irv
Irv Washington
08-27-12, 16:47
I had a good time recently in Shenzhen through the mamsans around the Shangrila Hotel (see my post below).
Choice of WLs was limited (but fine) during afternoon hours. I guess there would be more WLs at night. Right?
It was my first visit to Shenzhen. For the regulars in Shenzhen which locations in Shenzhen would you most recommend for Shenzhen newbies?
I've read the forum and it's not easy to get an overview of current options as a lot of posts say Shenzhen has changed etc.
I will probably be in Shenzhen again in the future. Now that I've been there and know my way around the city, any suggestions / advice will probably be more meaningful and certainly much appreciated!
I just came home from a first trip to Shenzhen. Great city. Great time. Easy to find fun without speaking local language.
I was staying in a 5* hotel in Futian area and had a blast.
Girls that came to my room were entertaining and energetic and in my mind a 7 or 8/10 in looks.
Lots of street action outside the hotels but looked like it was 5/10 or less for quality.
200RMB is too much. 150 is the going rate. 130 if you are a good negotiator in Chinese. Those Luohu apts trap you with the Mamasan. I much prefer the street level BBSs in Hubei Cun, Shanxi Cun, ShaXui Cun, etc.
Monkey.
I had 2 good sessions in Shenzhen for 200 RMB each time, using WLs I was brought to by the mamasans near the Shangrila Hotel.
Both times were in daytime (mid afternoon). I wasn't sure if the mamasans would be out at that time but it turned out there were quite a few! Especially near the '7 Eleven' store on the street that runs alongside the Shangrila hotel's main entrance.
While the mamasans were out in the afternoon, there weren't many WLs to choose from at that time. The first day I went, a mamasan brought me to an apartment with only 1 WL but that was fine as the lady was fine. Around 30, attractive, good body. Service was fine too, BJ, her on top, me on top. 200 RMB.
Next day, I went around the same time, and told the same mamasan I'the like a younger lady, around 20 to 25. The mamasan took me to an apartment with 2 young cuties. I choose 1 and got similar service to the day before for 200 RMB. The lady I chose told me she was 23 years old and from Wuhan.
Nice time in Shenzhen!
Irv
Anyone know any bars in Luoho? I mean where you can just buy a drink, not have to open a room or pay for a fruit set. Somewhere to just hang. BTW, whats with the tipping culture here. I thought this was China? It's really out of hand here in SZ.
Irv Washington
08-28-12, 14:40
200RMB is too much. 150 is the going rate. 130 if you are a good negotiator in Chinese. Those Luohu apts trap you with the Mamasan. I much prefer the street level BBSs in Hubei Cun, Shanxi Cun, ShaXui Cun, etc.
Monkey.LA Monkey.
Thanks for your response to my post.
For the benefit of those of us who don't know Shenzhen as well as you, could you or others give a couple of landmarks (eg nearest subway station or name of nearby main street) for the locations you suggest: Hubei cun, Shanxi cun, Shaxui cun.
I've gone through the Shenzhen thread but it's hard to get a clear simple reference for these locations, and it's hard to know which locations are currently 'active' as many posts talk about areas in Shenzhen being 'less active' or ending completely.
Irv
See attached Map. Ask anyone in the vicinity or taxi driver. You will need to walk the alley ways and make eye contact with touts. They are hiding the girls but will show when there is a potential customer. Good Luck.
Monkey.
LA Monkey.
Thanks for your response to my post.
For the benefit of those of us who don't know Shenzhen as well as you, could you or others give a couple of landmarks (eg nearest subway station or name of nearby main street) for the locations you suggest: Hubei cun, Shanxi cun, Shaxui cun.
I've gone through the Shenzhen thread but it's hard to get a clear simple reference for these locations, and it's hard to know which locations are currently 'active' as many posts talk about areas in Shenzhen being 'less active' or ending completely.
Irv
Irv Washington
08-29-12, 12:59
See attached Map. Ask anyone in the vicinity or taxi driver. You will need to walk the alley ways and make eye contact with touts. They are hiding the girls but will show when there is a potential customer. Good Luck.
Monkey.LA Monkey,
Great! Very useful to me and I'm sure many others. Thanks.
Irv
Recently stayed in Futian, Shenzhen for a few days. Bouncing around the internet, came across a site referencing all the local MP's. Based on the advertisement, which clearly states the price of 468 and FS, decided to head over to the Grand View hotel. It's a 10 minute stroll due east from the Sheraton, on the opposite side of the road, Fuhua. Went to floor 11 as instructed, and approached the desk. Clearly, we were going to have a lanuage barrier. FS was not on the posted menu, so I settled for regular full body massage for 268 just to get things going. Went through the locker room, into the shower area, and was given shorts and a shirt to put on. Followed a dude through the sitting area and immediately to a private room, where negotiations commenced. Played a terrible game of adult charades and lets make a deal. When I got my point across about full service, he grabbed a pad of paper and wrote 1400. I replied with 468. It seemed we'd never get to an agreement, so I settled on the original 268 + 100 for a full massage plus HE. Massage was pretty bad. HE was pretty standard. Girl wanted me to fill out a form on the way out, and to check a box indicating her tip, of 20, 50, 100, etc. For her services. I was sticking to my agreement, and told her I'd pay on the way out. Locker room guy then tried to extract a tip, showing me his phone with the english "we don't get paid, we work for tips". I explained that I would pay him the 100, and 268 at the desk, as agreed. He indicated that was okay. Gave him 100, and then of course the desk wanted 368. I gave them 268 and told them the locker room guy had the rest of it. Stuck to my deal and left.
All-in-all, not a good experience. Might be alright if you can negotiate in Mandarin, but as a foreigner, too difficult. I won't return.
Oh, and no sauna or spa that I saw, although they may have been steering me clear of it.
WillyEvery time that I've been to this place, this same dude tries the same shakedown tactic. I've taken to simply telling him it was 368 last time, ain't changing this time. IMHO, this dude is the bottleneck to them having good business and mongers having a good time.
Hi Guys, I've had plenty of good experiences in Shanghai and Guangzhou (can see my reports). But staying in Shenzhen for a week confuses me a lot. I have RTFF pretty much, which confuses me even more. Can you guys give me your expertise comments on
1. Which is the Action packed zone?
2. Girl friendly Hotel Nearby (4 star)?
3. Any hotel with FS Sauna attached (fishbowl) where I can stay for a week?
I Know its too much to ask these questions, But I don't have any choice. Guide me guys. Cheers.
SM
Hey Friends,
I've been a regular to Guangzhou and can really help should anyone need any info. However I haven't yet explored shenzhen / dongguan.
Please please advise on the best pick up places. Ideally, I like to choose my girl.
Which clubs?
Which saunas?
I'm going to stay at shangrila near lou hu.
Thanks guys!
Sam
Hey Friends,
I've been a regular to Guangzhou and can really help should anyone need any info. However I haven't yet explored shenzhen / dongguan.
Please please advise on the best pick up places. Ideally, I like to choose my girl.
Which clubs?
Which saunas?
I'm going to stay at shangrila near lou hu.
Thanks guys!
SamWow, all your previous post is basically help me, help me. Have you ever consider RTFF or maybe contribute on your finding? Just wondering.
Hey Friends,
I've been a regular to Guangzhou and can really help should anyone need any info. However I haven't yet explored shenzhen / dongguan.
Please please advise on the best pick up places. Ideally, I like to choose my girl.
Which clubs?
Which saunas?
I'm going to stay at shangrila near lou hu.
Thanks guys!
SamSam,
Maybe you should consider buying a membership and PM one of the senior members for advice. You are staying at the Shangrila near the train station. If you only read the forum, you will find a wealth of information. Is it that difficult to do some research and just READ. Just my POV.
Wow, all your previous post is basically help me, help me. Have you ever consider RTFF or maybe contribute on your finding? Just wondering.Bnlee. Hey!
Well, yeah I actually have posted on various cities wherein I've seeked help / advice.
I travel to different cities. When I do! And do give reports back in!
I shud consider the membership.
Thanks!
Sam,
Maybe you should consider buying a membership and PM one of the senior members for advice. You are staying at the Shangrila near the train station. If you only read the forum, you will find a wealth of information. Is it that difficult to do some research and just READ. Just my POV.ANd hey, I did try reading. Through the pages. But there is just so much chatting that I couldn't quite figure much! Hence!
ANd hey, I did try reading. Through the pages. But there is just so much chatting that I couldn't quite figure much! Hence!There is so much information on the Lou Hu area (Shangrila hotel is in the area). Many tells of a specific apartment building literally right next door to you. If you did read you will know all about it. You sound like a guy that is constantly looking for handout. Do you know the meaning of "RTFF". If not, go to the top of the menu and look into abbreviations. Many of the Shenzhen goes into discussions about the Shangrila hotel and the proximity of these places. It even goes into pricing.
Enough said. Guy, just do some reading and stop asking for handouts. Try reading and taking some notes on the recent thread. Really, it is not very hard to do. Really.
Horrible day!
Reached Shenzhen mid afternoon. Really tired so slept.
Hit a sauna near shangrila. Massage was poor, girl was 6/10 and a lousy handjob!
Not losing hope. I was looking around on the street. Met a pimp and he took me to 2 nearby buildings.
1st building is close to the 7/11. 3 girls in the tiny apartment. Said 300 a shot. None were really worth it so I refused and told him not beyond 100 rmb for a shot. And the guy agreed. However, I can't do average or ugly so I left.
2nd building. One girl in white top with her boobs almost falling out and had a pretty face too but my hard luck was that she was eating and that apartment had almost 10 people in it. Only 3-4 girls. And it was smelling of dead rat.
Later nthe night. Went pub hoping!
Soho bar. All with their friends. Hardly 1 or 2 wgs but none worth the time.
Übar is now a spa. That too veggie.
Club 88. Good crowd but no wgs.
Came back to hotel. Called an escort. And the girl that showed up wasn't even remotely like the picture. Gave her taxi fre and sent back.
Hopefully, some better luck tomorrow
Sam1982,
If you're willing to invest that much time into getting laid and if you're staying at the ShangriLa near Luohu, why not just hop the train to Changping? There's lot more available over there. CP is a 30 minute train ride. There's a guy named Big Swingin' Dave who can arrange things for you. You can find him in either the Dongguan thread or in the Classified ads section.
Thanks moody,
The problem however is that I'm not Asian and CP is mostly KTV. I am not very omfortable with the idea of going to a KTV alone.
Anyways, went to a bar in kk mall. Good place, few single women were seen near the bar but didn't seem like wg. Ended up at a sauna behind shangrila hotel called spa club. Very good HJ. Good girl. Total damage was 268 + 100.
Though personally, I think sauna's are really not worth the time.
Any fellow mongers in Shenzhen?
Sam1982,
If you're willing to invest that much time into getting laid and if you're staying at the ShangriLa near Luohu, why not just hop the train to Changping? There's lot more available over there. CP is a 30 minute train ride. There's a guy named Big Swingin' Dave who can arrange things for you. You can find him in either the Dongguan thread or in the Classified ads section.
Deus Verve
09-12-12, 11:17
I have some QQ numbers for SZ pimps / girls for anyone interested however I sincerely appreciate some more numbers too!
Casualencounters. Com used to have a whole load of them before it went down. Shame as it seemed to have some potential.
Deus Verve
09-12-12, 12:44
I have some QQ numbers for SZ pimps / girls for anyone interested however I sincerely appreciate some more numbers too!
Casualencounters. Com used to have a whole load of them before it went down. Shame as it seemed to have some potential.
Hi LukeSkywalker,
Great Name!
If you plan to visit Changping I recommend you stay at the Eurasia. I have their link for you.
http://www.dgeahotel.com/en/contactus.aspx
They have a massive KTV but girls can come to the comfort of your room without doing the KTV thing. This is much safer then punting on the street. Get their around 6:30pm for the flower show, they have around 300 girls to choose from spread over 3 floors. The girls are split in to categories and this is easy to determine as they wear different colour dresses, just ask someone to tell you the prices.
As for Luhou, there is a street a couple of blocks away from the Shangrila where you can choose your girls. I recommend this over using the mammasans as you can see before you try. Not far from the Shangri La there is the Petrel Hotel. On the 19th floor is the biggest sauna / brothel in Luhou and the price is around 400rmb for 90 minutes full service. Below is the address loads of nice girls there and much better then the "pink" buildings near Seibu.
Petrel Hotel.
&20301; &20110; &32645; &28246; – &28145; &22323; &24066; &21312; , &28145; &22323; , &20013; &22269;
Petrel Mansion Jiabin Road Luohu Area
Shenzhen, Guangdong 518000 China.
www.casualencounterschina.com
Has photos and addresses of saunas in Luhou and also out at Dongguan (Changping).
I look forward to your reports and perhaps some photos. May the force be with you.Petrel hotel update.
Reached the hotel and there was nothing on the 19th floor. The sauna is on 28th floor. From the first look of it. Seemed like a low end massage place. 3 guys and two women almost pounced on me saying " massageee". Unfortunately that's the only english word they knew. Offered a Hong kong style massage for 200 something rmb. But I declined. Tried my best to ask for full service but to no good.
Headed to dragon leisure club.
Stupid taxi driver could not even get me to the address. Back to the hotel now. Guess this is going to be one hellova dry trip!
Sam,
PM me with your number. I'll show you some BBS's around Shenzhen.
LAMonkey
Petrel hotel update.
Reached the hotel and there was nothing on the 19th floor. The sauna is on 28th floor. From the first look of it. Seemed like a low end massage place. 3 guys and two women almost pounced on me saying " massageee". Unfortunately that's the only english word they knew. Offered a Hong kong style massage for 200 something rmb. But I declined. Tried my best to ask for full service but to no good.
Headed to dragon leisure club.
Stupid taxi driver could not even get me to the address. Back to the hotel now. Guess this is going to be one hellova dry trip!
Thanks moody,
The problem however is that I'm not Asian and CP is mostly KTV. I am not very omfortable with the idea of going to a KTV alone.
Anyways, went to a bar in kk mall. Good place, few single women were seen near the bar but didn't seem like wg. Ended up at a sauna behind shangrila hotel called spa club. Very good HJ. Good girl. Total damage was 268 + 100.
Though personally, I think sauna's are really not worth the time.
Any fellow mongers in Shenzhen?Actually, the majority of guys on the board don't go to CP for KTV. They go for either the saunas or the BBS scene. The saunas in CP are nothing like the ones in central SZ.
Ace Gallant
09-13-12, 11:57
Actually, the majority of guys on the board don't go to CP for KTV. They go for either the saunas or the BBS scene. The saunas in CP are nothing like the ones in central SZ.And also foot massage for "fishing". .
Enjoy!
AG
UniqueName
09-15-12, 12:35
I am going to be in SZ on next Tuesday 18th.
Is there any place / bar that can be recommended / is suitable for finding freebies?
If there's anyone around at that time and in a similar mood, send me a message! Drinks will gladly be on me!
(I'm aware that I haven't contributed anything to the forum until now, however I am definately going to share my experiences)
OldAsiaHand
09-16-12, 04:04
Thanks moody,
The problem however is that I'm not Asian and CP is mostly KTV. I am not very omfortable with the idea of going to a KTV alone.
Anyways, went to a bar in kk mall. Good place, few single women were seen near the bar but didn't seem like wg. Ended up at a sauna behind shangrila hotel called spa club. Very good HJ. Good girl. Total damage was 268 + 100.
Though personally, I think sauna's are really not worth the time.
Any fellow mongers in Shenzhen?Sam1982,
Most of the time when a newbie comes on here asking for handouts, members just tell them to RTFF. That is because, most of the time, they just want a free lunch and they never post a report afterwards.
That said, you are an exception to this. Thanks for your recent reports of your experiences in SZ.
I have never been to the Spa Club but there are many places in the same area with the same service from 118. 178 RMB, inclusive. They are package deals for massage and HE and do not require any extra tips. FS can be had for as little as 298-398 RMB, inclusive. They are always advertised in the HK sex guide magazines with photos of their girls. You should pick up a copy if you are in HK. I have a mate that uses these magazines all the time and the girls in the photos are usually for real. That said, I am sure if you roam around the area yourself you can find these places on your own.
Just my POV.
OAH
OldAsiaHand
09-16-12, 04:19
Not losing hope. I was looking around on the street. Met a pimp and he took me to 2 nearby buildings.
1st building is close to the 7/11. 3 girls in the tiny apartment. Said 300 a shot. None were really worth it so I refused and told him not beyond 100 rmb for a shot. And the guy agreed. However, I can't do average or ugly so I left.
2nd building. One girl in white top with her boobs almost falling out and had a pretty face too but my hard luck was that she was eating and that apartment had almost 10 people in it. Only 3-4 girls. And it was smelling of dead rat.Sam1982,
Thanks for not spoiling the market even though you did not do the girls. Many guys would have thought 300 is cheap and just gone for it.
I have been using these apartments for years, however, you very rarely see anything better than a 7 there. Most are in the 4-5 range and some are downright ugly like the ones you saw. For the rare gem. 100 RMB is good value for a quick fix. If you don't like the ones you see first in an apartment, they pimp can call the other apartments in the building to send girls. In your case, this would have been difficult for the pimp because he agreed to 100 RMB. Normally, he can only offer that for his girls since he would have to pay a commission from the other apartments.
On the other hand, you can take the girls back to your hotel if you want; probably between 150-200 RMB for off-site service depending on your negotiation skills. The pimps can also send girls directly to your hotel room if you like.
Just my POV.
OAH
Sam1982,
Thanks for not spoiling the market even though you did not do the girls. Many guys would have thought 300 is cheap and just gone for it.
I have been using these apartments for years, however, you very rarely see anything better than a 7 there. Most are in the 4-5 range and some are downright ugly like the ones you saw. For the rare gem. 100 RMB is good value for a quick fix. If you don't like the ones you see first in an apartment, they pimp can call the other apartments in the building to send girls. In your case, this would have been difficult for the pimp because he agreed to 100 RMB. Normally, he can only offer that for his girls since he would have to pay a commission from the other apartments.
On the other hand, you can take the girls back to your hotel if you want; probably between 150-200 RMB for off-site service depending on your negotiation skills. The pimps can also send girls directly to your hotel room if you like.
Just my POV.
OAHI appreciate the reports on this forum. It was prolly difficult for me given my fussiness. LOL!
However, I think I should have stayed near sea world because bar pick up seems more of my style than apartments.
Anyways, now I have a China agent to mediate the work I do in shenzhen. So, its going to Changping & Donguan KTVs next time in October!
UniqueName
09-22-12, 09:04
Recently stayed in Futian, Shenzhen for a few days. Bouncing around the internet, came across a site referencing all the local MP's. Based on the advertisement, which clearly states the price of 468 and FS, decided to head over to the Grand View hotel. It's a 10 minute stroll due east from the Sheraton, on the opposite side of the road, Fuhua. Went to floor 11 as instructed, and approached the desk. Clearly, we were going to have a lanuage barrier. FS was not on the posted menu, so I settled for regular full body massage for 268 just to get things going. Went through the locker room, into the shower area, and was given shorts and a shirt to put on. Followed a dude through the sitting area and immediately to a private room, where negotiations commenced. Played a terrible game of adult charades and lets make a deal. When I got my point across about full service, he grabbed a pad of paper and wrote 1400. I replied with 468. It seemed we'd never get to an agreement, so I settled on the original 268 + 100 for a full massage plus HE. Massage was pretty bad. HE was pretty standard. Girl wanted me to fill out a form on the way out, and to check a box indicating her tip, of 20, 50, 100, etc. For her services. I was sticking to my agreement, and told her I'd pay on the way out. Locker room guy then tried to extract a tip, showing me his phone with the english "we don't get paid, we work for tips". I explained that I would pay him the 100, and 268 at the desk, as agreed. He indicated that was okay. Gave him 100, and then of course the desk wanted 368. I gave them 268 and told them the locker room guy had the rest of it. Stuck to my deal and left.
All-in-all, not a good experience. Might be alright if you can negotiate in Mandarin, but as a foreigner, too difficult. I won't return.
Oh, and no sauna or spa that I saw, although they may have been steering me clear of it.
WillyI've also been at the Grand View Hotel lately. All in all a decent hotel for a good price.
I haven't checked the sauna (is there any hint on a sauna? Didn't find any info).
However I tried a normal FS for my hotel room. Asked at the hotel reception and after 2 min bargaining got one offer for 450RMB.
First girl (Sichuan) arrived about 10 minutes after. For my taste she was much too fast and very pushy. I wouldn't mind a little rush, but she clearly gave me the impression as if she has set some kind of "lead time" that he has to fulfill at all costs. (Look about 6 out of 10). The second girl's look was in about that same league. What somehow turned me off here was when I asked for BBBJ, she wouldn't let me. Also after asking her for several times (haven't happened before to me; might be that I was lucky the few times I tried FS so far) At the end I wasn't really in the mood anymore and asked her to leave then (she wasn't a real beauty anyway)
Coming to Shenzhen next weekend.
I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS or saunas that feature girls with very large racks. I don't mind how fat they are as long as their breasts are huge and heavy. Do you have any tips of places where I can find them?
I will be happy to share contacts too, just PM me, I am based in Shanghai.
Take care, and keep riding!
BBLover
Coming to Shenzhen next weekend.
I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS or saunas that feature girls with very large racks. I don't mind how fat they are as long as their breasts are huge and heavy. Do you have any tips of places where I can find them?
BBLoverAre implants cool?
Hi,
This is my first post here, so take it easy guys. I have been a freebie hunter for a number of years, but I now realize the error of my ways. My last freebie girl was a beautiful Hunan girl. 22, and a wonderful firm, young, slim body, but the RMB added up! To get rid of her, I had to tell her that I had to go to hospital as I had a disease (I would not tell her what. Haha. And she packed up pretty quickly)! And I am in my 60s!
For the last few months I have been using Wechat (download to your smartphones) , with huge success in finding very attractive, and often inexperienced part-timers. I have not seen this approach explained on ISG (maybe I missed it)!
The approach is easy! It may be a little more expensive that BBS and mamasans (I currently live near Luohu Cun) , but definitely worth it!
Just do a "look around" on Wechat. Then look for girls who only have photo and name (no album etc). Usually their photos are a bit risque, (cleavage etc). These girls are typipcally part=timers. This is a very quick scan to do, particularly if you select "females only" for your search.
Then say "hi!", and 4 out of 5 times I get the "I've accepted your friend request.", within a minute or two.
Some ask straight out if I am looking for services! If not I just ask if they are part-time (&20860; &32844;?) , and I get a "yes" or a ST and LT (they often say "once' or "overnight") cost. And they usually ask where you are! Then simply negotiate the price and services. As relative amateurs they are often pretty flexible.
Easy to do, even if you do not speak any Chinese (use Google translate).
I generally pick the girls who do not have professional photos, as they are usually amateurs out for a bit more money, and often very friendly and enthusiastic! And I have found that their photos are genuine! I also tend to avoid the girls who respond with a ready-made list of costs and conditions.
At this time of year, it seems the girls get very few customers, as I have a 80% hit rate of getting responses within a few minutes of sending a greeting!
As I am in Luohu, I get up to 20-30 part-timers on every search. Plenty to choose from. Their ages are usually early 20s, sometime a bit younger. YMMV.
The costs that can be negotiated depend on the time of the day or evening. But I can usually get a full overnight (from say 10:00pm) for 700 or less, or 300 if later at night. It depends on the girl, and how badly she needs the money.
Oh, and I usually delete them from Wechat after I have finished as some tend to keep chasing you, and there are plenty of new, fresh ones out there!
But what a great service, and beats the hell out of wandering the narrow alleys of villages.
Cheers
Thanks for that post. I live in Luohu too, near GuoMao. Can you get them down to 150 short time? I never used it because I assumed they were all touts. If they are amateurs, I might try it. Maybe meetup to trades stories / advice?
LAMonkey
Hi,
This is my first post here, so take it easy guys. I have been a freebie hunter for a number of years, but I now realize the error of my ways. My last freebie girl was a beautiful Hunan girl. 22, and a wonderful firm, young, slim body, but the RMB added up! To get rid of her, I had to tell her that I had to go to hospital as I had a disease (I would not tell her what. Haha. And she packed up pretty quickly)! And I am in my 60s!
For the last few months I have been using Wechat (download to your smartphones) , with huge success in finding very attractive, and often inexperienced part-timers. I have not seen this approach explained on ISG (maybe I missed it)!
The approach is easy! It may be a little more expensive that BBS and mamasans (I currently live near Luohu Cun) , but definitely worth it!
Just do a "look around" on Wechat. Then look for girls who only have photo and name (no album etc). Usually their photos are a bit risque, (cleavage etc). These girls are typipcally part=timers. This is a very quick scan to do, particularly if you select "females only" for your search.
Then say "hi!", and 4 out of 5 times I get the "I've accepted your friend request.", within a minute or two.
Some ask straight out if I am looking for services! If not I just ask if they are part-time (&20860; &32844;?) , and I get a "yes" or a ST and LT (they often say "once' or "overnight") cost. And they usually ask where you are! Then simply negotiate the price and services. As relative amateurs they are often pretty flexible.
Easy to do, even if you do not speak any Chinese (use Google translate).
I generally pick the girls who do not have professional photos, as they are usually amateurs out for a bit more money, and often very friendly and enthusiastic! And I have found that their photos are genuine! I also tend to avoid the girls who respond with a ready-made list of costs and conditions.
At this time of year, it seems the girls get very few customers, as I have a 80% hit rate of getting responses within a few minutes of sending a greeting!
As I am in Luohu, I get up to 20-30 part-timers on every search. Plenty to choose from. Their ages are usually early 20s, sometime a bit younger. YMMV.
The costs that can be negotiated depend on the time of the day or evening. But I can usually get a full overnight (from say 10:00pm) for 700 or less, or 300 if later at night. It depends on the girl, and how badly she needs the money.
Oh, and I usually delete them from Wechat after I have finished as some tend to keep chasing you, and there are plenty of new, fresh ones out there!
But what a great service, and beats the hell out of wandering the narrow alleys of villages.
Cheers
In shezhen again after 1 year. Went directly to louhu around 10. 00 am. Walking around there a mamasan approached me with a massageoffer 2 Hours for 138 RMB. Let's see I said.
Went up in 5 F the building with standard chartered bank between the two metro stations louhu and guomao. Couple of girls watching TV. One of them jumped up and came over to me. Nice face and slim. The type I like. Up into the massage room, shower and a good back massage. I started playing between her legs and she looked to like it. Then she asked suddenly "make love". Yes I said she wanted 500 RMB but we settled on 300 for massage + 1 shot. The fun began.
Face 8710.
Body 9/10.
Age: 30.
Fun: 8
Damage 300 RMB
Thanks for that post. I live in Luohu too, near GuoMao. Can you get them down to 150 short time? I never used it because I assumed they were all touts. If they are amateurs, I might try it. Maybe meetup to trades stories / advice?
LAMonkeyApologies for the delayed response. I have been in Hong Kong.
I am not sure about 150. I guess it depends on the girl. I generally do not try ST. I like to play, and being old geezer, I usually only manage one shot at night and one in the morning. So I prefer LT.
By the way, many genuine part-timers, either change their avatar during the week, or log out of Wechat. Additionally, another good way to identify real part-timers is to ask their height and weight. Touts will usually just give a list of services or similar. And I also ask is it their real photo.
It would be great to catch up with you and trade stories. Anywhere is OK (King Glory Plaza?). Can you PM me? I am not sure about the procedure!
Cheers
Thanks for that post. I live in Luohu too, near GuoMao. Can you get them down to 150 short time? I never used it because I assumed they were all touts. If they are amateurs, I might try it. Maybe meetup to trades stories / advice?
LAMonkeyApologies for the delayed response. I have been in Hong Kong.
I am not sure about 150. I guess it depends on the girl. I generally do not try ST. I like to play, and being old geezer, I usually only manage one shot at night and one in the morning. So I prefer LT.
By the way, many genuine part-timers, either change their avatar during the week, or log out of Wechat. Additionally, another good way to identify real part-timers is to ask their height and weight. Touts will usually just give a list of services or similar. And I also ask is it their real photo.
It would be great to catch up with you and trade stories. Anywhere is OK (King Glory Plaza?). Can you PM me? I am not sure about the procedure!
Cheers
Not sure about 150 ST. I guess it depends on the individual girl. They would probably also want taxi fare! The true part-timers are independent and do not have pimp / tout.
By the way, many genuine part-timers log out of Wechat from Monday to Thursday, or, they change their avatars to innocuous scenery photos. Lots of pros still chatting during week tho, if one is desperate!
Thanks for the offer to catch up. Appreciated. Pretty well any time is OK (although I am in HK a few days every week! Can meet any place. Say King Glory Plaza in Guomao?). Can you private message me (I am not sure how this works yet).
Cheers
Thanks for that post. I live in Luohu too, near GuoMao. Can you get them down to 150 short time? I never used it because I assumed they were all touts. If they are amateurs, I might try it. Maybe meetup to trades stories / advice?
LAMonkey
Last week I was browsing Wechat during the day. I noticed a young girl with the usual lack of details (although she had a few photos of herself) which often indicates a part-timer. I messaged her and she replied. She said she had been a part-timer for a short while, but no business (she should have shown her tits in the photo, not some demure cover-up top).
She was willing, but when she reaised that I was a foreigner she said she would not come, she was too small and she was afraid!
I chatted her for a little while and eventually she gained a little confidence and agreed to meet me.
I booked a room at the Shangri-La (luohu) as I don't take first timers to my apartment. By the way, you can always buy a set of vouchers at the Shangri-La for 998 yuan. This gives you a deluxe room on the 27th floor, a free buffet dinner and a number of other discounted meal and services. Good value and you can get the vouchers multiple times, although not more than one at a time! Normally, though, I use a cheap hotel, but this time I thought I would make an investment!
Being a gentleman (haha) I met the girl in the coffe lounge. She was as nervous as hell, but readily accompanied me to the room. I easily undressed her and she had the beautiful firm body that I love (166cm). She was almost visibly trembling by this time, and I had not even undressed. But after caressing for a while, we showered together but she would not even look down at my little brother to see whether I was the foot and a half that she imagined.
She did not stop me caressing her in all areas of her body. And all holes. I decided to DATY, and after a bit of reluctance, she relented, but did not seem to particularly like it. However, she did then DFK, and started to warm up. I took my time, and she seemed more and more relaxed.
When I tried to enter her, she was really tight, even with extra lubricant on the condom. After about a minute of gentle and slow love-making she relaxed, loosened up and started to really enjoyed the experience, holding me very tightly and giving me DFK! A wonderful experience! Afterwards she kept caressing me and murmuring to me! It is funny how most Chinese girls do not DFK, but this girl went crazy.
She would not stay the night as I think that she had to work the next day, and unfortunately being my age, it takes me more time to recover for my next shot.
She stayed in the room with me for about 2 hours. The agreed price had been 400 (yes I know!). Believe it or not I was so enthralled with the experience I gave her 600! Well, she gave me back 200! WTF! Has this ever happened before?
She would not give me her QQ or phone number (did not understand her explanation) but I have her on 'Wechat' and probably will try her again for an overnight! Sorry, I will definitely contact her again!
I brought her out of retirement and introduced her to foreigner's little brother! A memorable episode!
The moral is that it is sometimes difficult to pick part-timers, but go on your intuition and have a bit of patience.
And now I have to go and work on this young 19 year old, who blushed (emoticon) when I asked if she was part-timer. But, she kept talking to me and eventually, even asked how much money would I pay her. She is considering my proposition at this moment. She says this will be her first time and I believe her. She looks about 15, so I must check her I'd card!
Cheers
We are a good looking western / asian young couple currently in HK and are planning to visit Shenzhen tonight and next night.
Any suggestions of how to find a nice girl (s)"helping" us both at the same time?
We visited Watercube and Golden Coast earlier this year for a couple massage but the ladies were a little bit shy when we both were in the room to really go "all in".
Should we try to find a lady coming to our hotel room instead or are there better places where you can go as a couple?
Hope to get many answers.
OK. PM sent.
Not sure about 150 ST. I guess it depends on the individual girl. They would probably also want taxi fare! The true part-timers are independent and do not have pimp / tout.
By the way, many genuine part-timers log out of Wechat from Monday to Thursday, or, they change their avatars to innocuous scenery photos. Lots of pros still chatting during week tho, if one is desperate!
Thanks for the offer to catch up. Appreciated. Pretty well any time is OK (although I am in HK a few days every week! Can meet any place. Say King Glory Plaza in Guomao?). Can you private message me (I am not sure how this works yet).
Cheers
TravelTwoMuch
10-11-12, 09:29
"She stayed in the room with me for about 2 hours. The agreed price had been 400 (yes I know!). Believe it or not I was so enthralled with the experience I gave her 600! Well, she gave me back 200! WTF! Has this ever happened before?"
A Chinese girl would never give back 200rmb, never hapened, not in this lifetime. They couldn't sleep. The natural world as we know it would know longer exist, just admit you overpaid.
It happened!
"She stayed in the room with me for about 2 hours. The agreed price had been 400 (yes I know!). Believe it or not I was so enthralled with the experience I gave her 600! Well, she gave me back 200! WTF! Has this ever happened before?"
A Chinese girl would never give back 200rmb, never hapened, not in this lifetime. They couldn't sleep. The natural world as we know it would know longer exist, just admit you overpaid.
MikeyLikesIt11
10-14-12, 08:04
Last week I was browsing Wechat during the day. I noticed a young girl with the usual lack of details (although she had a few photos of herself) which often indicates a part-timer. I messaged her and she replied. She said she had been a part-timer for a short while, but no business (she should have shown her tits in the photo, not some demure cover-up top).
She was willing, but when she reaised that I was a foreigner she said she would not come, she was too small and she was afraid!
I chatted her for a little while and eventually she gained a little confidence and agreed to meet me.
I booked a room at the Shangri-La (luohu) as I don't take first timers to my apartment. By the way, you can always buy a set of vouchers at the Shangri-La for 998 yuan. This gives you a deluxe room on the 27th floor, a free buffet dinner and a number of other discounted meal and services. Good value and you can get the vouchers multiple times, although not more than one at a time! Normally, though, I use a cheap hotel, but this time I thought I would make an investment!
Being a gentleman (haha) I met the girl in the coffe lounge. She was as nervous as hell, but readily accompanied me to the room. I easily undressed her and she had the beautiful firm body that I love (166cm). She was almost visibly trembling by this time, and I had not even undressed. But after caressing for a while, we showered together but she would not even look down at my little brother to see whether I was the foot and a half that she imagined.
She did not stop me caressing her in all areas of her body. And all holes. I decided to DATY, and after a bit of reluctance, she relented, but did not seem to particularly like it. However, she did then DFK, and started to warm up. I took my time, and she seemed more and more relaxed.
When I tried to enter her, she was really tight, even with extra lubricant on the condom. After about a minute of gentle and slow love-making she relaxed, loosened up and started to really enjoyed the experience, holding me very tightly and giving me DFK! A wonderful experience! Afterwards she kept caressing me and murmuring to me! It is funny how most Chinese girls do not DFK, but this girl went crazy.
She would not stay the night as I think that she had to work the next day, and unfortunately being my age, it takes me more time to recover for my next shot.
She stayed in the room with me for about 2 hours. The agreed price had been 400 (yes I know!). Believe it or not I was so enthralled with the experience I gave her 600! Well, she gave me back 200! WTF! Has this ever happened before?
She would not give me her QQ or phone number (did not understand her explanation) but I have her on 'Wechat' and probably will try her again for an overnight! Sorry, I will definitely contact her again!
I brought her out of retirement and introduced her to foreigner's little brother! A memorable episode!
The moral is that it is sometimes difficult to pick part-timers, but go on your intuition and have a bit of patience.
And now I have to go and work on this young 19 year old, who blushed (emoticon) when I asked if she was part-timer. But, she kept talking to me and eventually, even asked how much money would I pay her. She is considering my proposition at this moment. She says this will be her first time and I believe her. She looks about 15, so I must check her I'd card!
CheersHow do you say part-timer in Chinese? How do you ask them if they are a working girl or not?
Thanks for the note, do you have any suggestions of places where I can find them?
Are implants cool?
Bommel1963
10-16-12, 01:02
Short biz trip to Shenzhen, stayed in the Huaqiangbei area, full of shopping malls and fast food chains, but no WG action in the evening. Hotel had direct lift to the hotel-floors, no registration at the desk required. As some suggested earlier I tried the WECHAT and MoMo in Shenzhen to find parttimers, also selecting the ones with less personal info and just a pic, more or less sexy. .
Well, I got some responses and some were straightforward asking if I need service, or even quoting already in their first reply. You may need some Chinese language abilities, english seems difficult. I started in the afternoon to prepare for dinner-time. I chatted with 4 of them, which I thought were real, and it took me quite some time to get one coming to my room. But surprise, the pic was different and after I refused she called her pimp to collect the agreed sum even without service. So gave her taxi-money and off she went.
Continued with the others and had a long exchange, they were all refusing any dinner invitations or coffee, but would come direct to my room. So around midnight the next one shows up, again one from a pimp service, not the one from the nice pic. But she was nice too, big boobs with implants and she stayed with me for an hour. Damage 600 and we also exchanged direct phone, maybe I try her again tonight, direct booking for less.
So overall I found it rather time-wasting with all these pimp-run contacts, with parttimers it must take even longer, if they are shy.
Guess I try the Sheraton area tonight as well, seems a bit more straightforward.
Good hunting!
LukeSkywalker
10-16-12, 05:23
600 Rmb for ST is kind of high.
Should stay in hotels in Luohu, the entertainment district of ShenZhen.
Check out the villages. Xing Xin Cun, Hubei Xin Cun, Luohu Cun etc. Should find plenty good selections of young girls 300 RMB for 2 shots.
Hi, anyone going to Shenzhen would like to have a friendship with a gay friend of mine? He's not P4P just would like to know someone who have the same interest in life like him. Just drink and talk is ok.
Cheers.
"Some people in previous life was Napoleon, King George. Americo Vespucio but I deeply believe I was a pantie! Thatass!"
I've been going to China since 2004 and I fucked more than one hundred girls. In the villages you can get a fresh pussy for even less than RMB300. Is a bit hard if you are not local but try a friend to help you. I remember the cheapest pussy I got was RMB200 in Foshan, something like 1:30hs from shenzhen and I was with 2 Chinese friends, we went to a nice house with the head already full of Chinese wine. It was not in the center of the city and there was just 10 girls there but very nice and young.
I got a very little girl 1, 55m tall like with no more than 19, we came to the room took a shower and I was dreaming with that nice ass, really nice to a Chinese standard!
She made a fire and ice service and I asked to keep doing it in a 69 position. Friends WHAT ASS! I almost cummed with that fantastic view but with the help of Chinese wine I could control myself. I fucked her in all possible positions. And when I asked the pigeye she refused. So I came in the pussy and CRTL + ALT+ DEL her.
ISO standards to this operation in (1-10) rate:
Girl 9.
Pussy: 9 very tight.
Ass: 10000 even not being able to screw.
Tits: 8, 5.
Place: 8.
Damage: RMB200.
Time: 1. 30hr.
Target: Single shot.
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"Some people in previous life think was Napoleon, King George. Americo Vespucio but I deeply believe I was a pantie! Thatass!"
Luohu Cun. The Pink Apartments.
I enter the village via the entrance from Renmin South Road about 6:00pm on a Friday evening. There are a string of 'legitimate' massage parlours on the left, and an empty building site on the right. I stroll along looking at the girls trying to entice me into their parlour!
I pass the first street on the right. I know there is a "massage" place about halfway along this street that offers full service, but the only girls I have seen there should be on the old age pension.
I enter the second street on the right, and at the first alley there are 2 ladies offering girls. I decide to go with one of them to view the delicacies on offer. We go about 70 metres up the narrow alleys, and then enter the last building. She is encouraging me up. Up and ever up! 12 flights and 6 stories later, I finally stagger into the designated apartment. By this time I need some minutes to recover as I am a long way from being a teenager!
Luckily, the mamasan has to call a girl on her phone. 10 minutes later I am still waiting and pretty impatient. Finally the girl arrives. I think that she could have made an excellent career pulling tractors out of bogs! I refuse her and go to leave. The mamsan drags me back by the arm whilst on the phone again. I wait another 10 minutes and along comes a 30 something girl who was dumpy and floppy in all areas. This time I push off the mamasan's grabbing arms and head down the 12 flights of stairs.
I head up to the end of the street. There are a couple of BBSs and a massage place along the way, but I have never tried them. At the end of the street, there are about 5 mamsans / touts waiting for their prey. They wait here as there is an exit from the Luoho station just a short distance away on Renmin Road along a narrow path. I go to a lady who is standing by herself. She grabs me by the arm (she has seen me a number of times before, but I have not been a customer). We go to an apartment building, and up the flights of stairs we go. Top floor again! I am buggered! There is a girl in the room, but I use my phone translator to ask her to see young girls. She is a bit pissed off, but at least it gives me time to recover my breathe!
I am still waiting after 10 minutes. 15 minutes and I finally leave despite her protestations. I head downstairs with her trying to drag me back by my USD300 Paul and Shark shirt (pissed me right off). I head off through the narrow north exit so as not to run the gauntlet of the other touts.
I vow never again to bother with Luohu Cun, the famous pink apartments unless I want to start a regime of exercise (and I doubt that very much!).
By the way standard pricing around here is 300 (generally one shot) , but is easily negotiable to 150/200 at nonpeak times.
YMMV.
Cheers
LukeSkywalker
10-20-12, 08:26
Standard ST rate in the cuns is 150 Rmb ST on location, usually in a dark, messy and smelly room a few flights up in one of those old apartment building; 200 Rmb for the girls to walk to your hotel with you. Hubei Xin Cun has the new 300 Rmb for 2 shots, sign that prices will be going up. . .
I just love to walk hand in hand with pretty young girls on the streets of ShenZhen, where people hang out, eating, drinking, playing chess on the side walks. It's very Chinese for a Laoban (big boss) to walk hand in hand with lovely young girls. . .
Some of the girls at the night market near Xiang Xin Cun are a little bit older, but sexy, good-looking nonetheless. They were always looking at me and my young girls with envy, and sometimes with pleading eyes, like they wish I would take them to the hotel instead. They probably had babies waiting for food back in their dark and hot apartments. .
Luohu Cun always ha shad the worst-looking girls, wearing ugly clothes. I could never fuck any Luohu Cun girl. I would never go up 12 flights to wait around for the girls to show up. Fuck that waste of precious time. The girls used to walk in gangs of 5 to 10 on the streets. Looks like Luohu Cun has been raided recently.
Ya. For a few of the extremely pretty, nice, sweet, wholesome-looking Chinese girls, I dream my face would turn into a pair of panties, glued to their sexy, fragrant crotches. .
I've been going to China since 2004 and I fucked more than one hundred girls. In the villages you can get a fresh pussy for even less than RMB300. Is a bit hard if you are not local but try a friend to help you. I remember the cheapest pussy I got was RMB200 in Foshan, something like 1:30hs from shenzhen and I was with 2 Chinese friends, we went to a nice house with the head already full of Chinese wine. It was not in the center of the city and there was just 10 girls there but very nice and young.
I got a very little girl 1, 55m tall like with no more than 19, we came to the room took a shower and I was dreaming with that nice ass, really nice to a Chinese standard!
She made a fire and ice service and I asked to keep doing it in a 69 position. Friends WHAT ASS! I almost cummed with that fantastic view but with the help of Chinese wine I could control myself. I fucked her in all possible positions. And when I asked the pigeye she refused. So I came in the pussy and CRTL + ALT+ DEL her.
ISO standards to this operation in (1-10) rate:
Girl 9.
Pussy: 9 very tight.
Ass: 10000 even not being able to screw.
Tits: 8, 5.
Place: 8.
Damage: RMB200.
Time: 1. 30hr.
Target: Single shot.
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"Some people in previous life think was Napoleon, King George. Americo Vespucio but I deeply believe I was a pantie! Thatass!"
JackTheLad2
10-20-12, 15:14
Hi, anyone going to Shenzhen would like to have a friendship with a gay friend of mine? He's not P4P just would like to know someone who have the same interest in life like him. Just drink and talk is ok.Sorry, but reading between the lines, this is certainly not what the forum is about.
You are lucky Jackson has not spotted your post! It, and you, would be deleted!
LoganJames
10-20-12, 20:37
Hello,
This is my first post on this site. I'll be on business in Shenzhen probably from 11/10. 11/30. Wondering if anyone else will be there and is interested in mongering together. I'm Chinese in my 30's and I can speak Cantonese and a little bit of Mandarin. I've been reading up on this site, but most of the time it's general areas (Luohu is one). I'm going to be saying in the Futian area. With my limited time there and probably only have evenings to roam, it would be great if I could hang out with someone with similar hobby interests but with more experience of the area. Doesn't matter if you're based in the US or you're living there (Expat). FS is what I'm looking for, either dine-in or take-out is fine.
I might also cross the border over to Hong Kong on the weekends. I'll post similar message over that thread, but I just want to mentioned that here if someone else has similar itinerary.
Thanks.
--- SNIP --- Looks like Luohu Cun has been raided recently. --- SNIP ---To the best of my knowledge it has been like this for at least 5 months. I walk through the village at least 3 times each week (at various times) , on my way to another assignation. There are a few young cuties there, but it is too much effort to find them. Give the place a miss!
I wonder why the quality is so poor compared to other villages, even compared to the area behind the Shangri-La?
Cheers
Abvodsolutka
10-25-12, 06:09
been to sz many times and this is the first time i got lucky with something i never tried. so i think this worth a report.
tired after sz-hk round trip, i could barely feel my leg anymore. stayed in a decent fashion hotel just above the grand theatre station, with only kk mall to stroll, i am desperate to find a companion for the night that won't require me to go for the extra walk. so i tried the net. i know this method is too risky to take, since online information would never been reliable. but i think i would give it a try. hence, sms is sent to 2 mobile numbers that i got from a site that looked as unreliable as i ever think of. replied was fast! and short. it was "1000 full service. address?" shit. i dunno whether i am the desperate one or her. i'm weighting the risk that i will take a nd went on to negotiate. then suddenly another sms reply from the other number arrived,"yes. do you need companion?" okay. at least i have options now. lets text them a bit more to gather more information. the second one seems to be having better english lesson in school, and agreed on 500 after several negotiation (sorry to say, the most important part of my negotiation is that i stated that i'm an asian) , and the next important deal that i made was if i don't like what i see, or if she is not my type. 100rmb will be hers for her trouble and taxi fee. so, its a gamble after all.
2 hours of wait, and the bell in my room rang. take a peek, and voila. she is gorgeous. invited her in, pretend i don't like quite interested, to bargain a little less, but failed. so agreed on 500 still and go take shower together. then usual exercises on the bed (round bed, i like this hotel, maybe some of the fellow sz master knows this hotel well).
she stayed for a little while massaging me and stuff. then leave with 600 from me, since i'm satisfied with her.
attached is her nude figure from the back, which i also cannot view with not enough karma, anyway, its just for sharing good experience. so photo is a must.
overall face: 9, body:8 (not very young anymore, maybe mid 20, but ok) service:8 (all style incl bbbj and sunhole service)
from this experience, maybe i gain a little more trust on online site, but still, i think i was just got lucky.
after sz i travelled to dg and tried the ktv and sauna, overall top notch services, hopefully have time to report on dg thread. pictures available too.
Luohu Cun. The Pink Apartments.
I enter the village via the entrance from Renmin South Road about 6:00pm on a Friday evening. There are a string of 'legitimate' massage parlours on the left, and an empty building site on the right. I stroll along looking at the girls trying to entice me into their parlour!
I pass the first street on the right. I know there is a "massage" place about halfway along this street that offers full service, but the only girls I have seen there should be on the old age pension.
I enter the second street on the right, and at the first alley there are 2 ladies offering girls. I decide to go with one of them to view the delicacies on offer. We go about 70 metres up the narrow alleys, and then enter the last building. She is encouraging me up. Up and ever up! 12 flights and 6 stories later, I finally stagger into the designated apartment. By this time I need some minutes to recover as I am a long way from being a teenager!
Luckily, the mamasan has to call a girl on her phone. 10 minutes later I am still waiting and pretty impatient. Finally the girl arrives. I think that she could have made an excellent career pulling tractors out of bogs! I refuse her and go to leave. The mamsan drags me back by the arm whilst on the phone again. I wait another 10 minutes and along comes a 30 something girl who was dumpy and floppy in all areas. This time I push off the mamasan's grabbing arms and head down the 12 flights of stairs.
I head up to the end of the street. There are a couple of BBSs and a massage place along the way, but I have never tried them. At the end of the street, there are about 5 mamsans / touts waiting for their prey. They wait here as there is an exit from the Luoho station just a short distance away on Renmin Road along a narrow path. I go to a lady who is standing by herself. She grabs me by the arm (she has seen me a number of times before, but I have not been a customer). We go to an apartment building, and up the flights of stairs we go. Top floor again! I am buggered! There is a girl in the room, but I use my phone translator to ask her to see young girls. She is a bit pissed off, but at least it gives me time to recover my breathe!
I am still waiting after 10 minutes. 15 minutes and I finally leave despite her protestations. I head downstairs with her trying to drag me back by my USD300 Paul and Shark shirt (pissed me right off). I head off through the narrow north exit so as not to run the gauntlet of the other touts.
I vow never again to bother with Luohu Cun, the famous pink apartments unless I want to start a regime of exercise (and I doubt that very much!).
By the way standard pricing around here is 300 (generally one shot) , but is easily negotiable to 150/200 at nonpeak times.
YMMV.
CheersMan, I admire you braveness and the risk you took to go to those places! It is very very dangerous if you don't know the area and not speaking Chinese or have local friends.
Well I guess pricing is really up a bit when I got booted out of an apartment near the Century Plaza Hotel for demanding 150 for take out back to the hotel. Later one or two mommies turn me down flat when I also
Mentioned 150 back to the hotel. Still I got 4 buildings where I can still get it but its not easy. Overall a steady downward progressive trend of the provider population in this area. I was still able to find beauties but I might have to stay for a half hour or so until one is shown to me. I know several have mentioned how girls from the so called "pink apts" are not especially pretty; however, I think I did see some fairly doable girls
Walking around while having lunch there. I probably give it a try later when I get back to Sz. I think one knows if a recent raid has happened over in the area I remembered as Seibu now everyone calls it something something cuns when you don't see the guys on their taxi bikes waiting on the other side of the auto barrier at the entrance. This was a bit of a surprised as it does seem, at least on Saturday, they were a bit bold then with more than a few right out on the narrow streets. I mean there are still alot of really good looking girls there. Well onward to CP.
Hello,
This is my first post on this site. I'll be on business in Shenzhen probably from 11/10. 11/30. Wondering if anyone else will be there and is interested in mongering together. I'm Chinese in my 30's and I can speak Cantonese and a little bit of Mandarin. I've been reading up on this site, but most of the time it's general areas (Luohu is one). I'm going to be saying in the Futian area. With my limited time there and probably only have evenings to roam, it would be great if I could hang out with someone with similar hobby interests but with more experience of the area. Doesn't matter if you're based in the US or you're living there (Expat). FS is what I'm looking for, either dine-in or take-out is fine.
I might also cross the border over to Hong Kong on the weekends. I'll post similar message over that thread, but I just want to mentioned that here if someone else has similar itinerary.
Thanks.Hello James. Do you have wechat? I am unable to PM you since I am not a paid subscriber. I live in Shenzhen now. Originally from Los Angeles. I can show you the different places to play in SZ and DG.
Coming to Shenzhen next weekend.
I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS or saunas that feature girls with very large racks. I don't mind how fat they are as long as their breasts are huge and heavy. Do you have any tips of places where I can find them?
I will be happy to share contacts too, just PM me, I am based in Shanghai.
Take care, and keep riding!
BBLoverAbout a month ago I had a sauna girl with size 34 E cup in CP at Lucky Hotel. If I remember correctly, her number is 100.
Petrel hotel update.
Reached the hotel and there was nothing on the 19th floor. The sauna is on 28th floor. From the first look of it. Seemed like a low end massage place. 3 guys and two women almost pounced on me saying " massageee". Unfortunately that's the only english word they knew. Offered a Hong kong style massage for 200 something rmb. But I declined. Tried my best to ask for full service but to no good.
Headed to dragon leisure club.
Stupid taxi driver could not even get me to the address. Back to the hotel now. Guess this is going to be one hellova dry trip!My last visit to the Petrel hotel was about two years ago. Halfway into the massage, the girl fell asleep on my tummy. I had to record everything with my phone and showed it to the management and compliant. Haven't been back since than.
There are a couple of foot massage parlors across Century Hotel in Luohu. I have always thought they are legit foot massage but lately I have been seeing that girls wearing mini skirt and heels outside their business trying to pull customers in. Does anyone know if they are still legit or maybe at least offer HJ now? There is also a spa at the corner next to the adult store, any extra service there as well?
Thanks in advance!
LoganJames
10-30-12, 05:59
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LoganJames
10-30-12, 06:02
"Adult Store"! Didn't know that was allowed (store front) in China. How times have changed. Century Hotel. Do you mean the Century Plaza Hotel ChunFeng Road in Louhu. Will check it out when I'm there.
Thanks
There are a couple of foot massage parlors across Century Hotel in Luohu. I have always thought they are legit foot massage but lately I have been seeing that girls wearing mini skirt and heels outside their business trying to pull customers in. Does anyone know if they are still legit or maybe at least offer HJ now? There is also a spa at the corner next to the adult store, any extra service there as well?
Thanks in advance!
I live in Shenzhen. Almost every Massage / Sauna has this service. They are categorized by different styles (Zhong Shi, Tai Shi, etc.) you need to know what to ask for. If you say "An mo xia mian" you'll probably get what you want.
LAMonkey
There are a couple of foot massage parlors across Century Hotel in Luohu. I have always thought they are legit foot massage but lately I have been seeing that girls wearing mini skirt and heels outside their business trying to pull customers in. Does anyone know if they are still legit or maybe at least offer HJ now? There is also a spa at the corner next to the adult store, any extra service there as well?
Thanks in advance!
"Adult Store"! Didn't know that was allowed (store front) in China. How times have changed. Century Hotel. Do you mean the Century Plaza Hotel ChunFeng Road in Louhu. Will check it out when I'm there.
ThanksYes, it is the Century Plaza Hotel. There are actually quite a few adult stores now and they are usually located nearby KTVs, Bars, and a lot of nightlife. I was wondering if I am not a paid subscriber, am I able to receive PM? I know that I am unable to send PM but does both member need to be paid subscriber in order to receive PM?
Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.
I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwise. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.
I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.
She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.
Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.
Sorry, but reading between the lines, this is certainly not what the forum is about.
You are lucky Jackson has not spotted your post! It, and you, would be deleted!Sorry if I didn't explained better the situation, hes nice guy who drove me to the best girls I got in shenzhen hes bisexual and in fact I never saw him with a man! All girls was working in offices so it was almost fresh meet in the bed after a good dinner and some costed the dinner! Others was part time p4p. A lot of friends are going for the first time to China, I have lived in Futian district in the Golden Central Hotel for almost one year, I can't count how many girls I got there since 2004. So to a newbie who don't know nothing in mandarin is better to find a Chinese friend to help, read the forum get the sites and ask your friend to help you.
In 2008 I was in shanghai going to chengdu but due the earthquake there I kept in Shanghai for 7 days. My friend Peter, Chinese male addicted to pussy, drove me to a very luxurious massage house, but there was a group of polices already inside, the main visitors there are from japan. We just didn't get in trouble becouse a Chinese guy outside told him, in Chinese, about the trap. Next post I will give the direction of the place need to ask him the name, one year after I have had an amazing experience there, is not a cheap place but is really nice.
Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.
Give her a try, the link is below. (I don't know if I can post links on here, to admin I am very sorry if I can't) I'm intrigued, but you didn't mention price. Any reason why not? Or is this just a sneaky advertisement for this outcall service?
Matsui San
11-15-12, 19:51
this dude frequented the guomao area and pink apartments and refused to pay up after the deed.
been linked to incidents in dongguan too.
http://www.thenanfang.com/blog/american-arrested-on-suspicion-of-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)/
Stay soon in Shenzen, my first time.
Witch hotel to shoose at reasonable rate and close to the scene?
In Luohu? Days hotel, Haifu hotel, Golden Luohu hotel, ?
And one more question!
What is Xiang Xi Cun and Hubei Xin Cun. Are this streets?
Ans where to find?
Crazyofbutts
11-16-12, 14:55
Guys,
Asking a little help. I've been perhaps 30 times in SZ during the past 5 years but always stay just 1 night and want to have some action while there. I normally stay at Luohu in Panglin Hotel or Crowne Plaza Landmark hotel and walk to Seibu entertainment area for my enjoyment. However, in the past few times I've been there, the Seibu area has been really down.
I know that there is pink apartments area somewhere behind the Shangri-La in Luohu but from what reading based on recent reports, that looks to be bad as well. I've sometimes tried visiting there as well when going to HK train but have not found much.
Is there some other area you would recommend now? I could also stay near Nanshan area as some of my customers are there but when I last stayed at Shekou and tried to find action, it seemed to be only at the night time whereas I prefer to visit the service providers during the day!
Any advice would be helpful as I'd need to book my hotel by Sunday!
Hey this is my first post here, I'm in Shenzhen 29th December 2012, I've been there once before but just visited a couple of massage places my friend at the time took me there, have no idea where, but would remember if I went past again.
Anyway can anyone give me idea for assistance while I'm there.
Kiwinewbie
BossManFred
11-26-12, 11:19
Has anyone tried any of the massage places in and around Huaqiangbei? There are 2 places I know of right in the middle of HUAQIANGBEI: The first one is a "Korean" Sauna massage in the Shanshui Trends Hotel, on Huafa North Road. The other one, is a massage place on one of those inside road next to the Shanshui Trends hotel. This one advertise Foot massage and full body massage.
Then there are at least 2 on the other side of Huaqiang Road (Huaqiang south) , on Fuhong Road. One is just next to the China Merchants Bank and the other is further down the road on the corner and there is a KTV next to it.
Has anyone tried any of these places?
I usually stay in hotels in the Hauqiang North area, so next time I'm around I may try either the Korean one or the other one nearby or both!
I'm more familiar with the Xiangxicun village but trying out a different section of Shenzhen as I'm told that the Dongmen Area (right outside of the Laojie Train Station where the green and blue subway lines cross together) is more lively with food and activities. Any fellow mongers able to recommend specific providers in this area? Prefer BBS or sauna with fishbowl. Thanks!
ShanghaiNemo
11-27-12, 17:01
Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.
I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwise. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.
I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.
She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.
Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.
Give her a try, the link is below. (I don't know if I can post links on here, to admin I am very sorry if I can't)
CiCi.
http://www.vipchinaescort.com/shenzhen/sexy-shenzhen-escortSo strange. 2 post really similar from 2 different account. Sz player and chinaescort. One in sz and the oter in Shanghai.)
First Post, online girl I met in Shanghai.
Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.
I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwise. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.
I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.
She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.
Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.
You 2 are gemini brothers?
So strange. 2 post really similar from 2 different account. Sz player and chinaescort. One in sz and the oter in Shanghai.)
You 2 are gemini brothers?The worst is when he introduces himself as Gina.
Fast Eddie 48
11-27-12, 23:50
I'm more familiar with the Xiangxicun village but trying out a different section of Shenzhen as I'm told that the Dongmen Area (right outside of the Laojie Train Station where the green and blue subway lines cross together) is more lively with food and activities. Any fellow mongers able to recommend specific providers in this area? Prefer BBS or sauna with fishbowl. Thanks!To tryfor 5.
I was at Xiangxicun last month it was very sad only a few girl around all ugly, there is the Hubei new village near Dongmen area but all the bbs been closed down for over a yr only low end sauna offer service but service and quality is average mongering in Shenzhen is pretty bad right now.
Fast Eddie 48
Hello All,
I'm looking for confortable Hotel with KTV with many girls you can choose inside with FS.
Can you advice me some adresses?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Moistureman
11-29-12, 02:51
First time to try in shenzhen, staying at the Marco Polo hotel. Looking for recs on full service massage and / or outcall.
Moistureman
11-29-12, 14:55
Well got in to Shenzhen and not knowing my away around the mongering scene, decided to do some reading. And came across a tip about WeChat. So I figured I have nothing to lose so I fired up my Android phone, found the app, opened a free account and hit 'Around Me'. This app is a social network chat app that lets you see who is within x number of yard from you. So sitting in the hotel lobby, I click Around Me and a bunch of girls profiles came up, all within 500 yards of where I am. So I changed my profile message to say ' new in town looking for fun' and next thing you know I have 5 girls asking to be my friend, checked them out and by thier pix . Looking sexy and pretty. Guessed they may be looking for the same thing. So some small talk via I'm with each one, one of them just dropped the small chit chat and came right out "Do you want to have sex?". Of course I said and we negotiated the price. To 175. So she shows up within 10 minutes, wearing a sexy miniskirt and thigh high boots. Was a grand experience, BBBJ, shower, DATY, massage and the grand finale.
Never thought it would be that easy but it was in this particular case. So sharing the tip for the brothers
Ouch! SZ is really going downhill these days. I'm hoping things will pick up after the convention in Beijing finished. Anyone else with suggestions for the Dongmen area?
To tryfor 5.
I was at Xiangxicun last month it was very sad only a few girl around all ugly, there is the Hubei new village near Dongmen area but all the bbs been closed down for over a yr only low end sauna offer service but service and quality is average mongering in Shenzhen is pretty bad right now.
Fast Eddie 48
Any fellow mongers in sz from the 16th of dec.
First time to try in shenzhen, staying at the Marco Polo hotel. Looking for recs on full service massage and / or outcall.Ep out the
Just step hang at then inteiorsection outside the lobby. They will find you!
EclipsTotal
12-05-12, 12:00
Hello All,
I'm looking for confortable Hotel with KTV with many girls you can choose inside with FS.
Can you advice me some adresses?
Thanks in advance for your help!Hi,
I went to BAOLILAI Hotel (5stars) near BAO AN Airport, they have a good KTV there and many girls to pick Up, did do it like that last week all fine and price quite OK. Also use WECHAT software on your phone, it works and as other guys did tell you, amazing how fast you can get girls close to you for any service you require.
Was agreat week, did even bring some of my customer's to KTV. Even if I'm no Chinese it's easy to handle.
1 good friend talking to them and the evening was full of fun and girls.
LazyLurker
12-06-12, 11:51
Any fellow mongers in sz from the 16th of dec.Plan to Check in at Sunshine on 17th. Might be near midnight though as have dinner in HK first.
Looking to pickup. Originally was going to rely on luck on the street or WeChat. But if someone wants to go hunting together.
I am Asian and speak fluent Canto and Mandarin.
Transmuter
12-06-12, 19:30
Guys,
I live in BJ and come to SZ frequently. Although I study the F I still have difficulties to find what I'm into in SZ, which is simply go to a bar, have some drinks and talk to pick a girl who finally comes back with me to the hotel. My business is more or less in the east, and I also go or come over the border to or from HK, so, lately I used to stay in Luohoqu; many times I used the Sunshine hotel and I am aware there is a lot of action over night. Just now I tried Crown Plaza (because I have a card. But it seems to be dead in our respect, went to the SPA, all empty and the lady was very polite but overdue. I go through the streets in the evening and see a lot of styled and beautiful girls, sometimes not clear, if they go home from daytime jobs or looking for nighttime jobs. Many are very attractive, some super hot. Ok, have a walk to Shangrila area, and the older women try to catch me, one of them actually very beautiful, I would have fallen in love immediately if she were 20 years younger. But this is not what I want, I do not want to explain how big the boobs have to be and how the smile has to look like. This is all turning down me. So, went to the Soho Bar, noboby recognoized me, impossible to order a beer, an all-Chinese thing. Weixin, yes I have, and I speak a little Chinese and I know how to decipher Chinese messages "ni xuyao fuwu ma" and even more complex things, I also am able to copy paste the characters, but in the course of the deed I want the girl to be able to communicate I little bit in english (or my mother tongue which is not english, but way more unrealistic.). Out of dozens (50 or so) contacts today which are mostly apparent WGs only ONE answered in english (and explained politely that she is not the right leed).
I had wonderful experiences in the past in V-Bar, and probably this is the only place to go in Shenzhen. Am I right? I go there tomorrow, hope it still exists (last time I went there in 2009). It's a long ride though from Luohu and once you decide to take a girl out its kind of a commitment that is difficult to revise. Logistically alone after midnight or so.
T
Guys,
I had wonderful experiences in the past in V-Bar, and probably this is the only place to go in Shenzhen. Am I right? I go there tomorrow, hope it still exists (last time I went there in 2009). It's a long ride though from Luohu and once you decide to take a girl out its kind of a commitment that is difficult to revise. Logistically alone after midnight or so.
TTransmuter, you may try to find your luck in the Sea World area in Shekou. You can find pickup girls in the Terrace bar and certainly in the bars in Bar Street and Taizi Lu. Most of the girls certainly speak English.
Take a taxi to Sea World square or take the Luobao metro line to WotW and change there to the Shekou line. Sea World station, exit D and walk strait into Sea World square. Walk around a bit and you'll find plenty of (western style) bars.
Explorerman
12-08-12, 09:27
Fellow mongers
I will be in Shenzhen again starting tomorrow for a couple nights, staying at the Venice Hotel.
I have looked through the forum for good massage places nearby, but can't seem to put things together. I love a good 90-120 minute massage, ideally with HJ or BJ, and just enjoy the sensuality of the massage.
Any tips would be appreciated!
El Cubanito
12-13-12, 14:38
Hello,
I wil be landing into Hong Kong at 8:30 PM in January 2013. The question that I have is, should I stay in a Hotel in Hong Kong and then make my way to Shenzhen the next day? Or can I take transportation at that time of night and go to Shenzhen? My plane land at 8:30 PM and bythe time I get thru Immigration or Custom I will imagine that it will be 9:30 or 10:00 PM. Can somebody also give me advice the best way to get to Shenzhen from Hong Hong Airport area.
Thanks for your help
Hello,
I wil be landing into Hong Kong at 8:30 PM in January 2013. The question that I have is, should I stay in a Hotel in Hong Kong and then make my way to Shenzhen the next day? Or can I take transportation at that time of night and go to Shenzhen? My plane land at 8:30 PM and bythe time I get thru Immigration or Custom I will imagine that it will be 9:30 or 10:00 PM. Can somebody also give me advice the best way to get to Shenzhen from Hong Hong Airport area.
Thanks for your helpOption 1- Cheapest is take A 34 bus from the airport to the station one stop before Lowu. Bus stops next to the train station and takes approx 45 minutes. Hop on to train to Lowu takes 10 minutes. Check HKG website as to timings of the bus. Beware that Lowu border closes at midnight. Once you exit customs go through a passage to bus transportation are. Buy a ticket at the window with the A 34 sign. You can pay to driver directly if you have the right amount of change or Octopus card.
Option 2- There are transportation buses which will take you to Huangong border directly from the airport. This option is a problem if you have lots of luggage. Once you cross the border you have to lug it across a overpass to get to a meter taxi.
It is quite far from Lowu are.
Option 3- If your plane is late take E 21 bus to Mongkok. You can take a bus which ply all night to Huangong border all night. Once you get off the bus in Mongkok just take a taxi and ask him to take you to the bus stop.
If you get off the right stop it is just a walk across to an alleyway. I forget the name of the stop but you can ask the driver.
Option 4. Take E 21 bus to mongkok or shin shat sui, check in at a cheap hotel, take the train to lowu next day.
Ferry to China would have closed when you arrive. If you are going to Lowu area option 1 is the best. If your plane lands at 8. 30 you should be out atleast by 9. 30. Check the lowu train schedule to find out when the last train arrives at the station.
SE Asia Joe
12-13-12, 16:49
Hello,
I wil be landing into Hong Kong at 8:30 PM in January 2013. The question that I have is, should I stay in a Hotel in Hong Kong and then make my way to Shenzhen the next day? Or can I take transportation at that time of night and go to Shenzhen? My plane land at 8:30 PM and bythe time I get thru Immigration or Custom I will imagine that it will be 9:30 or 10:00 PM. Can somebody also give me advice the best way to get to Shenzhen from Hong Hong Airport area.
Thanks for your helpThe latest ferries to Shenzhen Shekou is at 9:20 and 9:45; do NOT clear customs / immigration and go to the "Ferries to Macau / mainland counter BEFORE you get to the immigration counter (look for the signs. Its close to gates 1. 3) , buy a ticket, give your luggage claim check ticket to the guy and he will retrieve it for you and have it on board the ferry. If you arrive on time at 8:30 you should easily make the 9:20 ferry, if not, then should not be a problem for the last ferry.
And if you still miss the last ferry, then clear customs / immigration and when you exit the custom hall, look for the signs for the cross border coaches to Mainland China. Ask which of the companies has buses going to your destination in Shenzhen. Check all your options on http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/transport/index.html
. You should be able to make it to Shenzhen with no problems.
SEAJ
El Cubanito
12-14-12, 14:46
Thank you guys for your help and input. I did some reserach yesterday and I found a compnay called CTS. They say that they have a both at the airport and I could buy transportation service right to my hotel in Shenzhen. The cost is 150 in Hong kong money. Is this to much for this transportation? This is my first time to China and I do not really speak the language. I can speak Spanish and Englisg fluently, but no Mandarin.
Thanks again guys for all of your help.
SE Asia Joe
12-14-12, 15:27
Thank you guys for your help and input. I did some reserach yesterday and I found a compnay called CTS. They say that they have a both at the airport and I could buy transportation service right to my hotel in Shenzhen. The cost is 150 in Hong kong money. Is this to much for this transportation? This is my first time to China and I do not really speak the language. I can speak Spanish and Englisg fluently, but no Mandarin.
Thanks again guys for all of your help.No, the rate is in the ball park, HK$150 is less than US$ 20!. And after all, it is going into another country and the whole journey will take at least an hour; but it will not hurt to check around the various booths at the airport as there's more than one transportation company offering passage to SZ.
And since this is your first time and you don't speak Chinese, I would recommend that you stick with the bus service which will take you directly to the hotel; other methods will entail you figuring out a way to go your hotel when you get to SZ. And will be a nightmare if you don't speak the language / don't know your way around / will probably end up costing you much more.
Just my POV.
SEAJ
El Cubanito
12-15-12, 12:07
No, the rate is in the ball park, HK$150 is less than US$ 20. And after all, it is going into another country and the whole journey will take at least an hour; but it will not hurt to check around the various booths at the airport as there's more than one transportation company offering passage to SZ.
And since this is your first time and you don't speak Chinese, I would recommend that you stick with the bus service which will take you directly to the hotel; other methods will entail you figuring out a way to go your hotel when you get to SZ. And will be a nightmare if you don't speak the language / don't know your way around / will probably end up costing you much more.
Just my POV.
SEAJThanks for your valuable input. Joe how is the weather in Shenhen in January? Is lik elike they say temperature around 75 degrees (F) during the day?
Joe is it safe to use girls from escort service like www.expatchn.com/? Have you use them?
The latest ferries to Shenzhen Shekou is at 9:20 and 9:45; do NOT clear customs / immigration and go to the "Ferries to Macau / mainland counter BEFORE you get to the immigration counter (look for the signs. Its close to gates 1. 3) , buy a ticket, give your luggage claim check ticket to the guy and he will retrieve it for you and have it on board the ferry. If you arrive on time at 8:30 you should easily make the 9:20 ferry, if not, then should not be a problem for the last ferry.
And if you still miss the last ferry, then clear customs / immigration and when you exit the custom hall, look for the signs for the cross border coaches to Mainland China. Ask which of the companies has buses going to your destination in Shenzhen. Check all your options on.
http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/transport/index.html
You should be able to make it to Shenzhen with no problems.
SEAJTaking the ferry is tricky. Reason is you need to go to ferry counter, surrender your baggage tags. They need to collect your baggage from the carousal and bring it to the ferry. This takes time. I have taken ferry many a time to Shekou and also to Macau. They need atleast one hour to get the bags.
If you are going to Lowu area shekou is very far, atleast one hour by taxi costing approx 200 RMB.
Airport buses only take you to Hungang border which is open 24 hours. It is also far from Lowu.
Even if you do not know mandarin it is ok in Lowu. When you reserve a hotel in Lowu they will send you a voucher which has Chinese letters and directions to show to taxi guy.
Lowu is easiest point to cross. As you come out on China side beware of many taxi mafia trying to get into their taxi and charge you exorbitant rates. Take a taxi from taxi line only.
Since I lived there I have learned to walk few steps on the road and catch a empty taxi and insist on meter. Also you go up one floor where there is taxi drop off and you can get in one.
Do some research on A 34 bus which is easiest to get into Lowu crossing. It is fast and costs less and hassle free.
Crossing at huangang border by bus is tricky. They first drop you off at HK border crossing (You need not take your bags). Only the other side same bus will be waiting. Before you get off remember the number posted inside and outside the bus. After you clear HK immigration they will drop you off at China immigration. You need to take all your bags. Once you exit immigration you need to climb a overpass to get to meter taxi line. There is no escalator or elevator. Once again avoid taxi mafia.
Thanks for your valuable input. Joe how is the weather in Shenhen in January? Is lik elike they say temperature around 75 degrees (F) during the day?
Joe is it safe to use girls from escort service like.
www.expatchn.com/?
Have you use them?It gets little cold in the evenings in December and January. You need a jacket. If you use cheap hotels there is no heater.
No need to use escort girls. Friendly mamasans are everywhere who will show you many girls. ST is around 150-200 RMB and LT is 400-500 RMB. Some mamasans around Lowu speak passable english.
All hotels are girlfriendly although the law states local visitors cannot stay after 11 PM.
Crossing at huangang border by bus is tricky. They first drop you off at HK border crossing (You need not take your bags). Only the other side same bus will be waiting. Before you get off remember the number posted inside and outside the bus. After you clear HK immigration they will drop you off at China immigration. You need to take all your bags. Once you exit immigration you need to climb a overpass to get to meter taxi line. There is no escalator or elevator. Once again avoid taxi mafia.Agree but you are a brave soul. Taking the van and pay a little more will save you a whole lot of hassle plus getting you straight to the hotel. IMHO!
Mmlouie
El Cubanito
12-15-12, 20:03
Agree but you are a brave soul. Taking the van and pay a little more will save you a whole lot of hassle plus getting you straight to the hotel. IMHO!
MmlouieWhen you say take the van, are you saying to take skyline limo? To be honest I would want to take this type of service. Louie, do you know what is the cost from Hong Kong Airport to Luohu District?
Thanks for your input
Taking the ferry is tricky. Reason is you need to go to ferry counter, surrender your baggage tags. They need to collect your baggage from the carousal and bring it to the ferry. This takes time. I have taken ferry many a time to Shekou and also to Macau. They need atleast one hour to get the bags.
If you are going to Lowu area shekou is very far, atleast one hour by taxi costing approx 200 RMB.
Crossing at huangang border by bus is tricky. They first drop you off at HK border crossing (You need not take your bags). Only the other side same bus will be waiting. Before you get off remember the number posted inside and outside the bus. After you clear HK immigration they will drop you off at China immigration. You need to take all your bags. Once you exit immigration you need to climb a overpass to get to meter taxi line. There is no escalator or elevator. Once again avoid taxi mafia.I don't understand why you say the ferry is tricky unless you only refer to the time frame between Cubanito's ETA and the departure time of the last ferry to Shekou. I have taken this ferry many times, as recently as last week. I suggest you proceed to the ferry ticket counters (indeed clearly marked) and ask at the counter if you are still on time for the last departure of that day. If you arrive early then you may even be lucky to catch an earlier ferry flight. As to the luggage collection (from the conveyor belt to your ferry) : my experience is that it takes the folks there less than 30 minutes. But you must take into account that ferry boarding starts approx. 30 minutes before departure.
And the taxi fare from Shekou to Louhu is not more than 120 RMB in the metered taxis right in front of the Shekou Ferry Treminal (don't go with the touts that will approach you already inside the SFT offering taxis).
If you feel uncomfortable with taking the ferry then I suggest you follow Joe's advice.
El Cubanito
12-15-12, 22:09
Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.
I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwise. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.
I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.
She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.
Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.Why do you say online girls are risky? Is it because of her pimp? Or you might not get what you saw online?
Please let me know
Do you take bus A43 or A34 from the airport? I have taken bus A43 from the airport which drops you off right in front of the train station. They you would take the train station 1 stop into Lowu.
When you say take the van, are you saying to take skyline limo? To be honest I would want to take this type of service. Louie, do you know what is the cost from Hong Kong Airport to Luohu District?
Thanks for your inputYes, skyline limo is the most expensive but check all the counters.They are all with different prices from 150-200, get you straight to the hotel and after the long flight...the last thing I want to do is to lug my luggage in and out of immigration. Just my own personal choice.
Mmlouie
I booked a room at the Shangri-La (luohu) as I don't take first timers to my apartment. By the way, you can always buy a set of vouchers at the Shangri-La for 998 yuan. This gives you a deluxe room on the 27th floor, a free buffet dinner and a number of other discounted meal and services. Good value and you can get the vouchers multiple times, although not more than one at a time! Normally, though, I use a cheap hotel, but this time I thought I would make an investment!
CheersHi Ikksman,
Can you explain more about these vouchers, the only thing I ofund on the Shangri-la hotel webpage for 988 was for a 14 conservative night stay. So thats a continuous 14 days.
Thanks
Do you take bus A43 or A34 from the airport? I have taken bus A43 from the airport which drops you off right in front of the train station. They you would take the train station 1 stop into Lowu.Sorry, It is A 43. My mistake.
About how long does it take A43 Bus to get to Lohu station from HK Airport?
LAMonkey
Sorry, It is A 43. My mistake.
El Cubanito
12-17-12, 14:57
This is my first time to China and I am trying to make it as hassle free as possible. I will be taking the skylimo service from Hong Kong airport to my Shenzhen hotel since I will be arriving late. I will be staying at the Modern Classic Hotel near the MixC Shopping Mall, has anybody stay here? Is it girl friendly?
Also I have read about bringing girls from the Internet to your room, is it because of some danger? I see that some of you rent hotels and not take them to your apartment, any reason (Ikksman)? Maybe you do not want to be bother later on?
Thank you for all your help and responses
El Cubanito
12-17-12, 14:59
Hi Ikksman,
Can you explain more about these vouchers, the only thing I ofund on the Shangri-la hotel webpage for 988 was for a 14 conservative night stay. So thats a continuous 14 days.
ThanksIkksman,
Can you talk about these vouchers in case I will get Internet Girls and I need to take them to different hotel other than the Hotel I am staying at. Thank you for your help and assistance
About how long does it take A43 Bus to get to Lohu station from HK Airport?
LAMonkeyA 43 bus leaves ground transpotation center at airport. It takes approx 45 minutes to fanling station stop.
Get into the station and buy a ticket to lowu. Make sure you ar getting into the right train because there is other train which goes to huangang border. It takes ony 10 minutes to get to lowu.
Cost is 40 hkd for bus and 20 hkd for train.
In reply to cubanito query, I had apartment close to lowu station and I brought in many girls as well as they cam by themselves. Security will just buzz me to let them in. There are no probems although echically all foreigners staying in China need to register with police but very few do.
Very frequently, when I am in the coffee lounge at the S-L, a guy will approach me and ask if I want the vouchers. This is the only way that I have purchased them. Maybe if you go to the hotel coffee lounge and ask, they will probably sell them to you!
BTW, a bit cheaper option is the nearby (and infamous) Century Plaza. A newly renovated and classy Business Deluxe room is Y648 + taxes. Very well-furnished and confortable rooms (compared to the musty and mouldy rooms in the rest of the hotel).
One question that I have for other readers. Why do some hotels in China charge considerably more for rooms booked at reception than over the internet. Century Plaze is something like Y468 (Standard Business room) booked over the internet, and Y648 if you go to reception and ask for standby rate! Big difference!
Hi Ikksman,
Can you explain more about these vouchers, the only thing I ofund on the Shangri-la hotel webpage for 988 was for a 14 conservative night stay. So thats a continuous 14 days.
Thanks
Some additional suggestions for taking the bus to Huanggang.
Firstly, at the HK border crossing point (Lok Ma Chou) , take you bags with you! They will not necessarily be on the bus when you rejoin it, and, if you have been held in immigration, the bus may have departed. Depends which bus company!
There is an escalator at Huanggang. It was installed for the University games last year. But it is still a pain in the butt to get to the taxi queue.
The advantage of Huanggang is that it is a 24 hour operation!
IMHO the best crossing point (the most modern and efficient) is Futian Port (Futian Kou An) which provides access to the Lok Ma Chou railway station.
Note that Lok Ma Chou can refer to either the HK border crossing for cars and buses, or the railway station at Futian Port.
Cheers.
Taking the ferry is tricky. Reason is you need to go to ferry counter, surrender your baggage tags. They need to collect your baggage from the carousal and bring it to the ferry. This takes time. I have taken ferry many a time to Shekou and also to Macau. They need atleast one hour to get the bags.
If you are going to Lowu area shekou is very far, atleast one hour by taxi costing approx 200 RMB.
Airport buses only take you to Hungang border which is open 24 hours. It is also far from Lowu.
Even if you do not know mandarin it is ok in Lowu. When you reserve a hotel in Lowu they will send you a voucher which has Chinese letters and directions to show to taxi guy.
Lowu is easiest point to cross. As you come out on China side beware of many taxi mafia trying to get into their taxi and charge you exorbitant rates. Take a taxi from taxi line only.
Since I lived there I have learned to walk few steps on the road and catch a empty taxi and insist on meter. Also you go up one floor where there is taxi drop off and you can get in one.
Do some research on A 34 bus which is easiest to get into Lowu crossing. It is fast and costs less and hassle free.
Crossing at huangang border by bus is tricky. They first drop you off at HK border crossing (You need not take your bags). Only the other side same bus will be waiting. Before you get off remember the number posted inside and outside the bus. After you clear HK immigration they will drop you off at China immigration. You need to take all your bags. Once you exit immigration you need to climb a overpass to get to meter taxi line. There is no escalator or elevator. Once again avoid taxi mafia.
If I have just met a girl (potential freebie or part-time) , I often meet them at hotel first. I am just erring on the cautious side. If I do not want to see them again, I do not want them to know my address or phone number. I do not worry about taking Xiaojie to my apartment. They are unlikely to be stalkers or go to your apartment uninvited.
Cheers
This is my first time to China and I am trying to make it as hassle free as possible. I will be taking the skylimo service from Hong Kong airport to my Shenzhen hotel since I will be arriving late. I will be staying at the Modern Classic Hotel near the MixC Shopping Mall, has anybody stay here? Is it girl friendly?
Also I have read about bringing girls from the Internet to your room, is it because of some danger? I see that some of you rent hotels and not take them to your apartment, any reason (Ikksman)? Maybe you do not want to be bother later on?
Thank you for all your help and responses
El Cubanito
12-20-12, 14:31
If I have just met a girl (potential freebie or part-time) , I often meet them at hotel first. I am just erring on the cautious side. If I do not want to see them again, I do not want them to know my address or phone number. I do not worry about taking Xiaojie to my apartment. They are unlikely to be stalkers or go to your apartment uninvited.
CheersIkksman, have you ever use any of the girls that advertise in ExpatCHN. Com? The reason I asked is because I did see a couple of hottie in there. If you have use this service are the pictures real. Anybody else who has use this service thay can give there 2 cent also.
Ikksman, have you ever use any of the girls that advertise in ExpatCHN. Com? The reason I asked is because I did see a couple of hottie in there. If you have use this service are the pictures real. Anybody else who has use this service thay can give there 2 cent also.You do realize that most of the pictures you see on the website are not going to be the girls that is available. The pictures are of models, TV stars and not of working girls. You will just be paying a high price for an average working girl since both the agency and the girl will receive money from you. Just trying to help you not getting ripped off. There are so many girls in China that you should really see what the real girl look like before paying for one.
Very frequently, when I am in the coffee lounge at the S-L, a guy will approach me and ask if I want the vouchers. This is the only way that I have purchased them. Maybe if you go to the hotel coffee lounge and ask, they will probably sell them to you!
BTW, a bit cheaper option is the nearby (and infamous) Century Plaza. A newly renovated and classy Business Deluxe room is Y648 + taxes. Very well-furnished and confortable rooms (compared to the musty and mouldy rooms in the rest of the hotel).
One question that I have for other readers. Why do some hotels in China charge considerably more for rooms booked at reception than over the internet. Century Plaze is something like Y468 (Standard Business room) booked over the internet, and Y648 if you go to reception and ask for standby rate! Big difference!Thanks for clearing up the vouchers.
In regards to hotel costs, not sure about else where but in the US, it's the norm to always pay more at the front desk than via online (but then I use those discount sites like Priceline or Travelocity) I've always thought that was the norm. So does that mean there are hotels in China that charge the same for hotel and internet?
I have never used services advertised in newspapare and web sites. I used to mainly go to the villages and also used some massage places I got to know. But now I concentrate on using Wechat. I am having enormous success. Easy to find freebies, part-timers and Xiaojie (using a good methodology). And I find quite a number of married women contacting me! Great entertainment, and the chase is half of the excitement.
Just for fun, use Tinyeye to see what other places on the internet those photos are used. I did once, and most of the photos were of Japanese porn stars, or Korean.
Cheers
Ikksman, have you ever use any of the girls that advertise in ExpatCHN. Com? The reason I asked is because I did see a couple of hottie in there. If you have use this service are the pictures real. Anybody else who has use this service thay can give there 2 cent also.
El Cubanito
12-21-12, 15:13
I have never used services advertised in newspapare and web sites. I used to mainly go to the villages and also used some massage places I got to know. But now I concentrate on using Wechat. I am having enormous success. Easy to find freebies, part-timers and Xiaojie (using a good methodology). And I find quite a number of married women contacting me! Great entertainment, and the chase is half of the excitement.
Just for fun, use Tinyeye to see what other places on the internet those photos are used. I did once, and most of the photos were of Japanese porn stars, or Korean.
CheersThanks Ikksman for all of the info. Just a couple of questions, you mention villages. Are there villages close to shenzhen and which one do you recommend. I will try WeChat. Also about cell phone in China, can one rent or does one have to buy one at th airport.
Also about cell phone in China, can one rent or does one have to buy one at th airport.Simply get a sim card. If you don't have a cell phone there are thousands of cheap Chinese models to buy one. But you still need the sim card and some air load.
Hey Guys,
I'm back in SZ, this time staying in Bao An right now. Anyone interested in meeting up, let me know!
Cheers all.
Launch
FreeSmiler
12-25-12, 09:06
Be careful with WEIXIN, If a girl looks too good to be true probably the picture it is a fake. You would not believe the hideous monster that turned up at my door.
Thanks Ikksman for all of the info. Just a couple of questions, you mention villages. Are there villages close to shenzhen and which one do you recommend. I will try WeChat. Also about cell phone in China, can one rent or does one have to buy one at th airport.
If you are looking for Xiaojie on Wechat, then probably more than 50% of their pictures are false. There is one easy solution to this. Simply communicate with the person (who is probably a tout or pimp) , to send another photo of "themselves", and then say that if the girl who arrives is not the girl in the photo, that you will send them away (and no taxi money). This shuts them up!
This warning actually holds for all photos of Xiaojie girls available for services on the internet. Most Xiaojie photos are false.
However, on the other hand, if you are looking for a freebie, or part-timer, then their photos are real, mor obviously false (cartoon character, film star etc). You can ask for real avatar, or ask them to send you another photo.
How do you separate Xiaojie (touts, pimps and mamsans included) , from part-timers and potential freebies? It is quite simple. If anyone is interested I can post detailed set of steps (more detailed and accurate than a short summary that I wrote here some time ago). It has been refined over a period and has proven to be quite accurate (along with a bit of intuition). I also collect married women as well using a few simple steps.
WeChat (Weixin) is great fun and rewarding!
Cheers
Be careful with WEIXIN, If a girl looks too good to be true probably the picture it is a fake. You would not believe the hideous monster that turned up at my door.
Hey Guys,
I'm back in SZ, this time staying in Bao An right now. Anyone interested in meeting up, let me know!
Cheers all.
LaunchWhen are you leaving Bao an. I am here for next couple of days. May be you want to catch up and explore the place late evening.
SE Asia Joe
12-26-12, 18:45
. How do you separate Xiaojie (touts, pimps and mamsans included) , from part-timers and potential freebies? It is quite simple. If anyone is interested I can post detailed set of steps (more detailed and accurate than a short summary that I wrote here some time ago). It has been refined over a period and has proven to be quite accurate (along with a bit of intuition). I also collect married women as well using a few simple steps.
WeChat (Weixin) is great fun and rewarding!
Cheers.Am definitely interested. Especially as it so happens with me, my written Chinese ain't the best and I've had to rely on audio messages etc!
Please do post it.
Thanks beforehand!
SEAJ
BossManFred
12-27-12, 09:09
If you are looking for Xiaojie on Wechat, then probably more than 50% of their pictures are false. There is one easy solution to this. Simply communicate with the person (who is probably a tout or pimp) , to send another photo of "themselves", and then say that if the girl who arrives is not the girl in the photo, that you will send them away (and no taxi money). This shuts them up!
This warning actually holds for all photos of Xiaojie girls available for services on the internet. Most Xiaojie photos are false.
However, on the other hand, if you are looking for a freebie, or part-timer, then their photos are real, mor obviously false (cartoon character, film star etc). You can ask for real avatar, or ask them to send you another photo.
How do you separate Xiaojie (touts, pimps and mamsans included) , from part-timers and potential freebies? It is quite simple. If anyone is interested I can post detailed set of steps (more detailed and accurate than a short summary that I wrote here some time ago). It has been refined over a period and has proven to be quite accurate (along with a bit of intuition). I also collect married women as well using a few simple steps.
WeChat (Weixin) is great fun and rewarding!
Cheers.Yo Ikksman, definitely interested in your report! Looking forward to it!
FreeSmiler
12-28-12, 11:10
I would be interested learning more about the Shenzhen scene, you fancy meeting up for a drink sometime?
If you are looking for Xiaojie on Wechat, then probably more than 50% of their pictures are false. There is one easy solution to this. Simply communicate with the person (who is probably a tout or pimp) , to send another photo of "themselves", and then say that if the girl who arrives is not the girl in the photo, that you will send them away (and no taxi money). This shuts them up!
This warning actually holds for all photos of Xiaojie girls available for services on the internet. Most Xiaojie photos are false.
However, on the other hand, if you are looking for a freebie, or part-timer, then their photos are real, mor obviously false (cartoon character, film star etc). You can ask for real avatar, or ask them to send you another photo.
How do you separate Xiaojie (touts, pimps and mamsans included) , from part-timers and potential freebies? It is quite simple. If anyone is interested I can post detailed set of steps (more detailed and accurate than a short summary that I wrote here some time ago). It has been refined over a period and has proven to be quite accurate (along with a bit of intuition). I also collect married women as well using a few simple steps.
WeChat (Weixin) is great fun and rewarding!
Cheers.
SilverSurfie
12-30-12, 05:23
I am also curious about your refined WeChat approach. Its easy enough getting girls to chat with but telling part-timers apart from the sea of girls on WeChat is definately a skill. Hoping you have the opportunity to make a report.
If you are looking for Xiaojie on Wechat, then probably more than 50% of their pictures are false. There is one easy solution to this. Simply communicate with the person (who is probably a tout or pimp) , to send another photo of "themselves", and then say that if the girl who arrives is not the girl in the photo, that you will send them away (and no taxi money). This shuts them up!
This warning actually holds for all photos of Xiaojie girls available for services on the internet. Most Xiaojie photos are false.
However, on the other hand, if you are looking for a freebie, or part-timer, then their photos are real, mor obviously false (cartoon character, film star etc). You can ask for real avatar, or ask them to send you another photo.
How do you separate Xiaojie (touts, pimps and mamsans included) , from part-timers and potential freebies? It is quite simple. If anyone is interested I can post detailed set of steps (more detailed and accurate than a short summary that I wrote here some time ago). It has been refined over a period and has proven to be quite accurate (along with a bit of intuition). I also collect married women as well using a few simple steps.
WeChat (Weixin) is great fun and rewarding!
Cheers.
Superforce99
01-07-13, 20:08
I don't know what happened to my previous post, but here it goes again and forgive me if it shows up twice.
It's been a long time since I've logged onto ISG or posted so I wanted to share in detail my experience with Weixin / Momo (WxMm) , which I hope may add some light to this whole discussion. I'm not sure about the hard returns, etc, so this post might look messy. I've gotten warning emails, etc. From ISG admin over this before, so I'll just type stream of conscious-style.
So, more than anything else in the recent years, smartphones have raised the prices of average price of WGs, at least in Shenzhen. Pimps have learned quickly the power of organizing and streamlining their business using cheap smartphones with WxMm and could weed out low-bidders and hold out for high-bidders / big spenders. At the same time, girls realized that they didn't have to stand out in the street all night long and could hold out for more money per customer and could go off on their own if the pimp didn't go along, and many of them went off on their own anyway because they could make more from one customer than they did all night with a pimp. This is the story I have as told to me by a pimp that chats with me about twice a week about business (always bad, never good) , introduces girls to me (mostly mediocre, occasional gem) , and comes to have me fix settings in his smartphones (he's not the brightest light bulb, about 45W soft-white). He has a real love / hate relationship with technology because it's helped make finding customers easier, but also made him more extraneous in the whole supply chain. He's responded by trying to find dumber and more desperate girls, using more threats / violence, and collaborating with all the other pimps to flood WxMm with accounts.
The thing about these pimp accounts is that the pics are usually not that explicit because online admin are actively searching for and deleting accounts offering obvious solicitation. That's why an account that you had contact with will suddenly disappear or stop responding. Another thing is that several 'triad-type' groups control most of the girls, so if you go ask five different pimps or WxMm contacts, there's a good chance they are all dipping from the same pool of girls. In fact, the level of sophistication now is that there are several sedans that shuttle girls all over Shenzhen to service customers. These are actually the best looking girls and it finally explained why I always saw the best looking street girls always getting into mid-level / domestic 4-door cars, ha. The pimps do their best to coordinate with their smartphones, kind of like a taxi company, but with pussy inside the taxis. The driver usually waits downstairs while the girl (s) do the deed and that's usually the person rushing the girl by calling her mobile phone non-stop after about 15-20 minutes. This also shows that a lot of the request for 'taxi money' is a lie (not all, but a lot of girls are driven to a location by a sedan or they take a bike taxi for 5-8 RMB) and it's hard to know if a girl really needs a taxi unless you escort her into one after the deed, but the hell wants to do that?
Price-wise, the girls I used to get 150-200 RMB ST has crept up to 300-500 RMB ST in about two years, which is crazy inflation, so a big F-U to smartphones! In terms of using WxMm, one sure sign that it is a pimp are profile pics that are attractive, but not-too-sexy. I've attached five pics from the many WxMm contacts I've made: A, B, C, D, E. I was looking for independents and / or pimps and all of these turned out to be pimps, except for one. Can you guess which? (answer at end of post) Besides the attractive / not-too-sexy pic, most pimps' profiles don't have any other albums, pictures, etc. These two signs will positively identify about 80% of the pimps out there. Finally, pimps will almost always ask you 'do you want service? ' in Chinese in their first or second WxMm message after adding you as a contact. Prices vary from 500-1000 RMB ST (!). One interesting aspect I've found is that pimps are far more flexible in negotiating (much like pimps promise the world since they aren't the ones actually swallowing, doing anal, licking ass / toes, etc. That customers always ask for) than independents. Most pimps, but not all, will quickly discount 100-200 RMB if you ask for it, whereas the independent girls almost never do (they usually push for multiple fucks at a discounted rate instead). A side note is that I have a spare smartphone on which I've loaded another WxMm profile that is my 'foreigner profile' and I only use English to communicate while my main phone has my 'Chinese profile' where I only use Chinese to communicate (I learned this trick from the pimps who usually have 2-3 phones in their pockets at all times, running separate WxMm accounts, ofcourse). The foreigner account consistently gets more random WxMm solicitations, higher prices, and more refusals for service than the Chinese profile. When I mention that I'm black or Indian, it's even worse, which a refusal rate of 70-80% and / or double to triple the regular price. So sorry to all the black and Indian dudes with limited mongering budgets in Shenzhen.
Anyway, back to the girls and I'll say I've never had a pimp send the girl who is in a pic they sent as 'proof' of who is coming (pics A-E were pics sent to me). Sometimes the girl is actually as good looking as the one in the pic, but rarely, and point is the girl is never the person in the pic, so it's a waste of time asking for pics unless you like collecting them. And when I cuss them out on WxMm, they claim nobody gives real pics. And there's a replacement on the way, boss! Such cunts, but, well, what can you do. Stick with independents, you say? Well, my opinion about independents is that I don't think there are any truly independent girls out on WxMm looking to fuck for free and / or money. OK, I don't mean 0, but I feel that the time spent on WxMm finding an independent / s-l-you-t is 99. 99% futile and ridiculously inefficient. But some people like chilling all day in the woods looking for Bigfoot, so whatever. The independents I've had were, on average, better looking than the average pimp-delivered girl, but at usually double the price without a difference in service, so that made it much less fun, for me, anyway. It's a crapshoot with service, too. Some girls are into everything (BBBJ, tit play, CIM, even anal) , some are very 'professional' (CBJ, no / light touching, nice-but-distant) , and then some are terrible and whatever the pimp says to you is useless because half the time, the pimp doesn't even know who got sent to your apartment, he just transferred your 'order' to a 'dispatcher' who doesn't know shit about what you want besides a female sent to your place.
So if you want to find independents, I have no WxMm secrets for you. I'the much rather work on a massage girl, KTV girl, clothing sales girl, etc. In person where I can determine physical chemistry / attraction right away. Just at the end of December, I spent 4 days chatting on and off with a 'regular' WxMm girl, finally met her on the 5th day and realized I wasn't physically attracted enough to spend any more time / energy on her (I'the fuck her if given the chance, but that doesn't mean anything since I'll fuck everything). This whole episode would have taken a few hours max if it were a face-to-face interaction on the street / mall / etc.
Well, that's what I had to add to all this, and if you have some other insights, please add to the SZ board and build up the knowledge. Oh, what city does Peyton Manning's NFL team reside in? The first letter of that city is the answer to 'which pic was the independent WxMm girl? ', but she gave 'professional' service, and cost double other girls, didn't look as good in real life, and she still has to pay a pimp / boss a bit of 'working / protection' money.
SF99
SilverSurfie
01-08-13, 06:31
Great post Superforce. You raised alot of great points and while technology has its advantages the downside is raising of cost and bait / switch are all too common. Thanks again for relaying your experiences to us.
I don't know what happened to my previous post, but here it goes again and forgive me if it shows up twice.
It's been a long time since I've logged onto ISG or posted so I wanted to share in detail my experience with Weixin / Momo (WxMm) , which I hope may add some light to this whole discussion. I'm not sure about the hard returns, etc, so this post might look messy. I've gotten warning emails, etc. From ISG admin over this before, so I'll just type stream of conscious-style.
So, more than anything else in the recent years, smartphones have raised the prices of average price of WGs, at least in Shenzhen. Pimps have learned quickly the power of organizing and streamlining their business using cheap smartphones with WxMm and could weed out low-bidders and hold out for high-bidders / big spenders. At the same time, girls realized that they didn't have to stand out in the street all night long and could hold out for more money per customer and could go off on their own if the pimp didn't go along, and many of them went off on their own anyway because they could make more from one customer than they did all night with a pimp. This is the story I have as told to me by a pimp that chats with me about twice a week about business (always bad, never good) , introduces girls to me (mostly mediocre, occasional gem) , and comes to have me fix settings in his smartphones (he's not the brightest light bulb, about 45W soft-white). He has a real love / hate relationship with technology because it's helped make finding customers easier, but also made him more extraneous in the whole supply chain. He's responded by trying to find dumber and more desperate girls, using more threats / violence, and collaborating with all the other pimps to flood WxMm with accounts.
The thing about these pimp accounts is that the pics are usually not that explicit because online admin are actively searching for and deleting accounts offering obvious solicitation. That's why an account that you had contact with will suddenly disappear or stop responding. Another thing is that several 'triad-type' groups control most of the girls, so if you go ask five different pimps or WxMm contacts, there's a good chance they are all dipping from the same pool of girls. In fact, the level of sophistication now is that there are several sedans that shuttle girls all over Shenzhen to service customers. These are actually the best looking girls and it finally explained why I always saw the best looking street girls always getting into mid-level / domestic 4-door cars, ha. The pimps do their best to coordinate with their smartphones, kind of like a taxi company, but with pussy inside the taxis. The driver usually waits downstairs while the girl (s) do the deed and that's usually the person rushing the girl by calling her mobile phone non-stop after about 15-20 minutes. This also shows that a lot of the request for 'taxi money' is a lie (not all, but a lot of girls are driven to a location by a sedan or they take a bike taxi for 5-8 RMB) and it's hard to know if a girl really needs a taxi unless you escort her into one after the deed, but the hell wants to do that?
Price-wise, the girls I used to get 150-200 RMB ST has crept up to 300-500 RMB ST in about two years, which is crazy inflation, so a big F-U to smartphones! In terms of using WxMm, one sure sign that it is a pimp are profile pics that are attractive, but not-too-sexy. I've attached five pics from the many WxMm contacts I've made: A, B, C, D, E. I was looking for independents and / or pimps and all of these turned out to be pimps, except for one. Can you guess which? (answer at end of post) Besides the attractive / not-too-sexy pic, most pimps' profiles don't have any other albums, pictures, etc. These two signs will positively identify about 80% of the pimps out there. Finally, pimps will almost always ask you 'do you want service? ' in Chinese in their first or second WxMm message after adding you as a contact. Prices vary from 500-1000 RMB ST (!). One interesting aspect I've found is that pimps are far more flexible in negotiating (much like pimps promise the world since they aren't the ones actually swallowing, doing anal, licking ass / toes, etc. That customers always ask for) than independents. Most pimps, but not all, will quickly discount 100-200 RMB if you ask for it, whereas the independent girls almost never do (they usually push for multiple fucks at a discounted rate instead). A side note is that I have a spare smartphone on which I've loaded another WxMm profile that is my 'foreigner profile' and I only use English to communicate while my main phone has my 'Chinese profile' where I only use Chinese to communicate (I learned this trick from the pimps who usually have 2-3 phones in their pockets at all times, running separate WxMm accounts, ofcourse). The foreigner account consistently gets more random WxMm solicitations, higher prices, and more refusals for service than the Chinese profile. When I mention that I'm black or Indian, it's even worse, which a refusal rate of 70-80% and / or double to triple the regular price. So sorry to all the black and Indian dudes with limited mongering budgets in Shenzhen.
Anyway, back to the girls and I'll say I've never had a pimp send the girl who is in a pic they sent as 'proof' of who is coming (pics A-E were pics sent to me). Sometimes the girl is actually as good looking as the one in the pic, but rarely, and point is the girl is never the person in the pic, so it's a waste of time asking for pics unless you like collecting them. And when I cuss them out on WxMm, they claim nobody gives real pics. And there's a replacement on the way, boss! Such cunts, but, well, what can you do. Stick with independents, you say? Well, my opinion about independents is that I don't think there are any truly independent girls out on WxMm looking to fuck for free and / or money. OK, I don't mean 0, but I feel that the time spent on WxMm finding an independent / s-l-you-t is 99. 99% futile and ridiculously inefficient. But some people like chilling all day in the woods looking for Bigfoot, so whatever. The independents I've had were, on average, better looking than the average pimp-delivered girl, but at usually double the price without a difference in service, so that made it much less fun, for me, anyway. It's a crapshoot with service, too. Some girls are into everything (BBBJ, tit play, CIM, even anal) , some are very 'professional' (CBJ, no / light touching, nice-but-distant) , and then some are terrible and whatever the pimp says to you is useless because half the time, the pimp doesn't even know who got sent to your apartment, he just transferred your 'order' to a 'dispatcher' who doesn't know shit about what you want besides a female sent to your place.
So if you want to find independents, I have no WxMm secrets for you. I'the much rather work on a massage girl, KTV girl, clothing sales girl, etc. In person where I can determine physical chemistry / attraction right away. Just at the end of December, I spent 4 days chatting on and off with a 'regular' WxMm girl, finally met her on the 5th day and realized I wasn't physically attracted enough to spend any more time / energy on her (I'the fuck her if given the chance, but that doesn't mean anything since I'll fuck everything). This whole episode would have taken a few hours max if it were a face-to-face interaction on the street / mall / etc.
Well, that's what I had to add to all this, and if you have some other insights, please add to the SZ board and build up the knowledge. Oh, what city does Peyton Manning's NFL team reside in? The first letter of that city is the answer to 'which pic was the independent WxMm girl? ', but she gave 'professional' service, and cost double other girls, didn't look as good in real life, and she still has to pay a pimp / boss a bit of 'working / protection' money.
SF99
Brilliant posting (IMHO) Sillversurfie. You quote a very long report to add just 3 small sentences with your opinion. Please try to avoid that in the future as my hobby is reading and not scrolling.
I had to night over in Shenzhen. Hit Seaworld area and came across girl bar "Bottoms Up" between the Terrace and Enigma. Very small place with one pool table.
7 girls in the place all were great fun and played a few games of pool with them. Lady drinks were 40 rmb & beers 25. (cheap compared to HK)
I tried to pull the one pinay in the joint, tall gal 7+ in looks but it was on her red holiday. Settled for a Hubei girl.
Name: JoJo.
Face: 7+
Body: thin.
Breast: A cup.
Pussy: Tight and shaved.
Performance: 9.
DFK.
BBBJ.
DATY.
Multi-pops.
Damage 1000 rmb.
Cdtjr, Yes, drink price not bad and even 1000 not terrible out of a club but what was the bar tab prior to takeout?
Thanks,
MD40.
I had to night over in Shenzhen. Hit Seaworld area and came across girl bar "Bottoms Up" between the Terrace and Enigma. Very small place with one pool table.
7 girls in the place all were great fun and played a few games of pool with them. Lady drinks were 40 rmb & beers 25. (cheap compared to HK)
Damage 1000 rmb.
I paid as we drank and ended up spending around 800 rmb total. Thats including 6 beers for me and a round for 2 expats that came in.
It didn't seem they had a quota, one Chinese gent had 1 drink and bought to LD then left with one in tow. Of course they want to keep you there.
As long as possible but being a Wednesday night they seem desperate for any business they good get inside or outside the bar. They all seemed
Ready and willing to leave with you once you decided to go.
Ct
DeepDeeper
01-13-13, 18:56
This is a general question to all the senior members. Hope you could help.
I plan to visit Guangzhou and sz during the new year time. I usually come to China for business and don't have much time for mongering. But I know here are a lot of things one could do there. This time around I'm planning a special trip just for fun part. Now the question is, would the spas and the other places mentioned in the forum be open during that time. If yes what are the chances of getting a good service. Also the price. Des it shoot up during this time of the year.
I still haven't booked my tickets, so I'm open to a few days before the new year or just after the new year (I believe 9the feb is the beginning of new year ). I'm getting a special deal on the airline tickets to Guangzhou. I can go to nearby place like CP, sz and dong guan if the need be. I have like 4 days planned for it.
Any comments and suggestion will be most welcomed.
Thanks in advance
I have several hours to kill before my flight out of Shenzhen.
Are there any hotels or massage places nearby where I could relax for a few hours?
Cap
Fast Eddie 48
01-17-13, 22:55
This is a general question to all the senior members. Hope you could help.
I plan to visit Guangzhou and sz during the new year time. I usually come to China for business and don't have much time for mongering. But I know here are a lot of things one could do there. This time around I'm planning a special trip just for fun part. Now the question is, would the spas and the other places mentioned in the forum be open during that time. If yes what are the chances of getting a good service. Also the price. Des it shoot up during this time of the year.
I still haven't booked my tickets, so I'm open to a few days before the new year or just after the new year (I believe 9the feb is the beginning of new year ). I'm getting a special deal on the airline tickets to Guangzhou. I can go to nearby place like CP, sz and dong guan if the need be. I have like 4 days planned for it.
Any comments and suggestion will be most welcomed.
Thanks in advanceDeep,
I just take a short trip to Manila or Bangkok for a few days and then return back to China for business, I don't want to stay in China during CNY too damn many people traveling and most working girl return home for CNY anyway.
Fast Eddie 48
DeepDeeper
01-18-13, 19:06
Deep,
I just take a short trip to Manila or Bangkok for a few days and then return back to China for business, I don't want to stay in China during CNY too damn many people traveling and most working girl return home for CNY anyway.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks bro. Your advice is much appreciated. As it turns out that some works already came up. So I've already coned my trip by about 10 days. So it means I plan to come around 20 th feb. And hope by then the places would be better populated as against the CNY time and could have more fun.
A gentle request to you and others around, if they want to meet up and have some mongering together I would be really delighted. Hope we can do something good and help each other out with some insights about Chinese girls.
Take care
I'll be spending a few days up north near BanTian Station this week. I've read through the SZ forums and know most of the hot spots around the city, but I'm hoping someone can give me a few locations closer to where I'll be staying. I usually go for the standard 160 or so rmb massage / HE, or a cheap 200rmb f*ck if the girl is young and pretty.
Any info helps. Cheers.
Fast Eddie 48
01-22-13, 23:22
Thanks bro. Your advice is much appreciated. As it turns out that some works already came up. So I've already coned my trip by about 10 days. So it means I plan to come around 20 th feb. And hope by then the places would be better populated as against the CNY time and could have more fun.
A gentle request to you and others around, if they want to meet up and have some mongering together I would be really delighted. Hope we can do something good and help each other out with some insights about Chinese girls.
Take careDeep,
Can you PM me with your contact I will be in Shenzhen on Feb 18 but flying to Penang on Feb 20th.
Fast Eddie 48
Traveling to Guangzhou city on March 27th for 3 days.
Hello,
How are you? I am looking for some fun in Guangzhou city from March 27th to March 30th. I am flexible. I have been there before but I don't know the hot spots. 200 or 300 RMB for a fuck its fair for me in China. Any tips please? I can travel also for a day to Shenzhen or Dongguan city.
I hope to hear from you,
Cheers,
Yomango
Certainly is the new way to get your girl delivered to your door, prices range from 4-6 for one shot. Don't worry, just click on 'looking around ' when you need and they will find you. Just my. 02 worth; do it earlier in the day for better selection.
Mmlouie
I have been approached by them, with the exception for the first two, 7,8 and 9; I cannot vouch for the rest of them if they are the same person as the photo.
Mmlouie
Certainly is the new way to get your girl delivered to your door, prices range from 4-6 for one shot. Don't worry, just click on 'looking around ' when you need and they will find you. Just my. 02 worth; do it earlier in the day for better selection.
MmlouieI must not be doing correctly! I am using wechat and have not made any contacts. Any advice or use instructions?
Mrclen
I must not be doing correctly! I am using wechat and have not made any contacts. Any advice or use instructions?
MrclenJust write something on your own profile, don't have to be in Chinese and mine is not. During the early afternoon, just go to "social" and change the setting to females only, then click on "look around". The working girls will be the one without any moments photos posted, you could either add them or wait till they contact you and they will. Good luck!
Mmlouie
Better to go to the villages. As low as 130rmb and you can see them first. I gave up on Weixin, especially because I read / write / speak Chinese. Just touts overcharging for normal girls IMHO.
LAMonkey
Just write something on your own profile, don't have to be in Chinese and mine is not. During the early afternoon, just go to "social" and change the setting to females only, then click on "look around". The working girls will be the one without any moments photos posted, you could either add them or wait till they contact you and they will. Good luck!
Mmlouie
I have been approached by them, with the exception for the first two. 7,8 and 9; I cannot vouch for the rest of them if they are the same person as the photo.
Mmlouie#9, who looks like a typical country girl who shows up at your door steps.
Just write something on your own profile, don't have to be in Chinese and mine is not. During the early afternoon, just go to "social" and change the setting to females only, then click on "look around". The working girls will be the one without any moments photos posted, you could either add them or wait till they contact you and they will. Good luck!
MmlouieI must be retarded! Still can't get it to work. Does it have to be a Chinese Tele #? I took an iPhone 3 with me to China this trip with the idea of getting a Sim card for it. Was told that it will not work in China, strange, because it is an unlocked AT&T phone and works everywhere else in the world I have been. Ended up buying a cheap throwaway phone but don't think I can put WeChat on it. Just checked it (my US iPhone 4) again and now I have a bunch of contacts, but they are from Guangzhou and I'm back in the US. I'm completely confused with this WeChat thing but wished I could have gotten it to work while I was in China. Do you know how it connects, data plan, internet, or just mobile to mobile?
do you know how it connects, data plan, internet, or just mobile to mobile?they all should work, just certain carriers with or without 3g speed. china 3g speeds really sucks! you should check your settings under privacy and clear your "look around" setting each time you move to a different location.
mmlouie
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