South China - Shenzhen [Archive] - Page 8

Weelock

03-19-08, 04:32

Yeah - real and the gals in HKG are quite shook up. Zi Tang - the WG organization's organized marches and demands to the police - yeah, true, the POLICE - to give them better protection etc; ****** is pretty well shut down (voluntarily I may add); The police mulling over an alert system for the WG; the WG's keeping tabs on each other - and us punters staying away in droves!! I mean its really all screwed up in HKG right now! I mean - who still want to screw around these 141's when you know damn good and well that you're being observed, recorded on CCTV - with some idiot actually poring over these CCTV footage etc etc.
HKG really knows how to screw things up don't it. I mean even that Edison Chen thing - hell - nowadays I really have a hard time trying to get pictures of my CP/SZ/ZH "friends" - I mean NOT for love or money - they just will NOT allow me to take pictures as they all think (hmmmm...) that they'll get posted up!
And pity our poor South Asian comrades - now that they've apprehended a Pakistani for these murders. Even before all this, these guys were already NOT the favorite customers for Chinese WG's - with this arrest I'm quite sure that theyre gonna have a hard time getting any service.
SE Asia Joe

Since it's really screwed up in HK, I would guess more guys will go over to Shenzhen and China for fun until things are back to normal. Shenzhen is just one hour away. That will mean that ratio to guys to girls will drop. In other words, a lot more guys.

SE Asia Joe

03-19-08, 05:06

Since it's really screwed up in HK, I would guess more guys will go over to Shenzhen and China for fun until things are back to normal. Shenzhen is just one hour away. That will mean that ratio to guys to girls will drop. In other words, a lot more guys.
Not only SZ - but also CP! I mean I'm even having a hard time getting hotel reservations these days! RIDICULOUS!
SEAJ

Santa

03-19-08, 08:07

SE Asia Joe

03-19-08, 08:13

Don't be fooled.

CPExpat is a very dangerous redneck who will kick your ass if you overpay and spoil his market. His nickname is Bubba. If you see a guy who looks like Homer Simpson, with bib-overalls, army boots, straw hat and tobacco juice dripping from his lips, RUN!!!
And you forgot his side-kick - black pointy cowboy boots, black cowboy outfit, silver belt buckle, Paladin as nickname. Between the 2 of them they ARE the law in CP
So you BSD's - BEHAVE!!!
SEAJ

Old Mean Dog

03-19-08, 10:07

And you forgot his side-kick - black pointy cowboy boots, black cowboy outfit, silver belt buckle, Paladin as nickname. Between the 2 of them they ARE the law in CP
So you BSD's - BEHAVE!!!
SEAJ

Don't be fooled.

CPExpat is a very dangerous redneck who will kick your ass if you overpay and spoil his market. His nickname is Bubba. If you see a guy who looks like Homer Simpson, with bib-overalls, army boots, straw hat and tobacco juice dripping from his lips, RUN!!!

You guys need to post your rumors about the Redneck Sasquatch over in the DG thread, as this foul beast has been spotted there more often.

-CPE

Iluvchik

03-19-08, 17:11

You guys need to post your rumors about the Redneck Sasquatch over in the DG thread, as this foul beast has been spotted there more often.

-CPEI need to read the DG thread throughly to get the market right. I planned to go to DG this weekend. Certainly don't wanna see any Red Neck's boots coming my way. Seen enough in Texas.

Jayson420

03-19-08, 20:28

Stuck

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Hello,

I've heard many stories about men falling for hookers but funny I would have never thought I would too. At first I paid the first 3 nights for this girl who is only 2 yrs younger than me 24 but then she didn't charge me anymore LOL.

Now its been a whole month and she still doesn't charge, she even pays for my taxi and food sometimes. Although I am Chinese I do not know how to speak mandarin thus making communication very hard. Is this a common thing? I consider myself still green in the *****mongering world.

I find myself caught up in weird situation where I am acutally considering to take her back to Canada with me. Is this a mistake?

Reply,
To be honest with you lots of seasoned mongers have fallen in love with a knowingly working girl althought they may not admit it.

There are few things going for you.
1. Why would a young guy of 24 fall in love with a hooker?
2. You would have no problem finding dates and having sex with normal girls for free.
3. As to the girl paying for the taxi etc , it happens sometimes. I have had many girls who do that if they stay with me for a long time and kind of fallen in love with me. This is not a guaranteed love thing. A hooker will always think and act like a hooker.
4. Remember 99% of the girls want money and security in life.
5. Just because sex is good with a looker it is no reason to make long term plans. I have been there and done that.

6. My advice is do not make any committments till you know whether you want this situation.Once a monger - always a monger

Once a hooker - always a hooker.

Enjoy!

Jayson420

03-19-08, 20:30

I noticed yesterday that Mannings now stocks Okimoto "Big Boy" Condoms, they come in a black box with a the photo of a horses head on it. Hahaha as in "Hung like a horse", 59 rmb per box, I did not buy any as I still have over 100 German condoms I got from Tiger888 ;)

Has anyone tried them? Size significant from standard condoms sold in mainland China and how is the thickness?

-CPEThey been advertising the shit out of these "Big Boys" in HK subways.

Personally, I always buy the okimoto "Crownes" in HK. Super thin. Have only good things to say about them.

Jayson420

03-19-08, 20:44

Yes this test exists:

http://www.orasure.com/products/default.asp?sec=2&subx=2&cid=2&prd=138Why would you trust your life with this stupid fucking plastic tester stick.

Just wrap it. Or get a GF. JEEZ!!

Jayson420

03-19-08, 22:29

Steven Jones

03-20-08, 00:43

Brother Bill,

The point is; Some guys will never be team players. They are here to satisfy their own selfish desires, no matter if they pay above the "going rate" or not, because to them, 400 rmb (remember he does a currency conversion in his head, about $55 USD) to bang a young Chinese girl is money well spent.

They don't give two shits what the "going rate" is or if it spoils the market for Bill Lee, CPExpat or any of the other brothers who are on the team. To them mongering is a solo sport, probably 11 1/2 month a year they gotta go home every day to some old, fat, ugly wife, but for 2 weeks a year well, we have all heard it before "They are like kids in a candy store and they don't give a damn how much the candy costs"

We will never make these kind of guys understand, but we can certainly rip the ones who post on ISG ;)

-CPE

So do you like in SZ or jut got there a lot CPE?

LoveAsia

03-20-08, 00:57

Why would you trust your life with this stupid fucking plastic tester stick.

Just wrap it. Or get a GF. JEEZ!!

The question was "does such a test exist" not "what is my opinion about bb".

Old Mean Dog

03-20-08, 05:50

Woody Shoes and I decided to try out a sauna yesterday evening and decided on the Flying Dragon Sauna Club. This sauna is located at the intersection of Dongmen and Shennan Rds., on the 5th floor of the China Construction Bank, very close to the Seibu area.

We didn't even make it out of the locker room before the attendents were asking us if we wanted FS or HJ and as soon as we sat down, the manager started hassling us.

Though the price said 68 for 1 hour foot massage and 2 hour body, that must be during certain times only, because the price we got was 28 for the footie and 58 for the body (maybe they misprinted the numbers?).

If one was wanting a HJ the damage was 168 total and if you ordered FS, he told us 500.....I am positive FS price was negotiable, HJ price was probably fixed.

The place is older and small, but it's clean, no tv's in the rooms so if you ain't talking to the girl, your just listening to yourself breath. All massage tables in every room we saw had been doubled up to create large beds....

I talked to my massage girl for a bit and she said that most ALL the guys who go there, go to the back rooms for the FS massage and that the girls were beautiful. I did notice a few in the back hallway and they did look pretty good.

Anyway, it is good to know there are places out there that offer more than the standard "rub & tug". It would be nice if Jackson did have some form of moderated sticky postings for things like this.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog

03-20-08, 05:54

So do you like in SZ or jut got there a lot CPE?

Work in SZ, live in CP...best of both worlds.

-CPE

Wadman

03-20-08, 06:53

Though the price said 68 for 1 hour foot massage and 2 hour body, that must be during certain times only, because the price we got was 28 for the footie and 58 for the body (maybe they misprinted the numbers?).

CPE,

A lot of places (especially the smaller ones) in Luohu advertise their "happy hour" prices in print. It's a bit of marketing trick to get you to go in. The price is printed in big letters, and the happy hour time restrictions in some tiny fine print. Happy hour usually finishes around 4 pm or 6 pm depending on the place. So it does not sound like you guys got ripped off.

If one was wanting a HJ the damage was 168 total and if you ordered FS, he told us 500.....I am positive FS price was negotiable, HJ price was probably fixed.

100 rmb "tip" for a HJ seems to be market rate in Luohu. Come out to LongGang...where the tip is 50 rmb ;-)

Woody Shoes

03-20-08, 08:05

CPE,

A lot of places (especially the smaller ones) in Luohu advertise their "happy hour" prices in print. It's a bit of marketing trick to get you to go in. The price is printed in big letters, and the happy hour time restrictions in some tiny fine print. Happy hour usually finishes around 4 pm or 6 pm depending on the place. So it does not sound like you guys got ripped off.Thanks for the happy hour part

Good to hear we didn't get ripped off. We didn't get jacked off either LOL

Daved35

03-20-08, 10:12

anyone have the website to book a room at sunshine hotel.

gonna try there this trip instead of the panglin. i googled it and was on the 3rd page of results and still didn't see there website. (guessing they don't have one)

if no one knows of their website i can just call their hotel reservation desk once they open. just want to avoid going through hotels.com or orbitz since they always try and assrape their customers. (an internet rimming) lol

i am also concerned about recent posts on seibu. that kind of sux if the reports are true.

peace bros,

jaysonjayson,

i stayed there a few times last year and in the imperial wing they have the best suites at circa 1700 rmb. the panglin is about 20% cheaper but find that there is no difference in quality. panglin has more going for it in the outside swiming pool/ gym etc.

i would advise that for roughly the same money you should go to the fu rong (lotus) hotel, (part of the same complex) and stay in the presidential suite of 100m2. sauna/jacquzzi/ 2 bathrooms etc. pm me for the correct procedure on this (wink wink). best value i have had in sz. i have a number of a pimp that works the streeet just outside and if you see some of my previous reports, some fellow mongers used his services and were justly rewarded. just ask 'young and beautiful' and he will deliver.

http://www.sunshinehotel.com/index.php?locale=en-us

regards

Old Mean Dog

03-20-08, 15:14

Niks647

03-20-08, 19:56

its simple and obvious ...www.sunshinehotel.com

enjoy your stay and report back.

anyone have the website to book a room at sunshine hotel.

gonna try there this trip instead of the panglin. i googled it and was on the 3rd page of results and still didn't see there website. (guessing they don't have one)

if no one knows of their website i can just call their hotel reservation desk once they open. just want to avoid going through hotels.com or orbitz since they always try and assrape their customers. (an internet rimming) lol

i am also concerned about recent posts on seibu. that kind of sux if the reports are true.

peace bros,

jayson

Jayson420

03-20-08, 23:27

Jayson,

I stayed there a few times last year and in the Imperial wing they have the best suites at circa 1700 rmb. The panglin is about 20% cheaper but find that there is no difference in quality. Panglin has more going for it in the outside swiming pool/ gym etc.

I would advise that for roughly the same money you should go to the Fu Rong (Lotus) hotel, (part of the same complex) and stay in the Presidential suite of 100m2. Sauna/Jacquzzi/ 2 bathrooms etc. PM me for the correct Procedure on this (wink wink). Best value I have had in SZ. I have a number of a Pimp that works the streeet just outside and if you see some of my previous reports, some fellow mongers used his services and were justly rewarded. Just ask 'Young and Beautiful' and he will deliver.

http://www.sunshinehotel.com/index.php?Locale=en-us

RegardsThanks for the info. I guess I will book the lotus instead of sunshine. I am only in SZ for one night this time. PM me with details on how to get the nice room cheaply.

Shanghai for 4 nights, SZ for 1 night and HK for 4 nights. NO WORK this time either. All for play.

Haha

So I actually did get one of your papas #s from Bounce Around back in November. Bounce around said he got from you.

And I called him during my last trip in February. He spoke great english but would not budge on price.

1k for LT delivered to my hotel. Now granted I was staying at Intercontinental way out in Nanshan. But 1k? I tried everything to get him to come down. Told him about ISG and that my friends had better price where I got the #. I told him I could go to Seibu BBS and get some for 150 for ST + Taxi. But he wouldn't budge. So I ended up getting LT for 800. He did send a real cutie though. Very energetic. But she spoke 0 english.

This time I want two hot small girls. So I can either walk around or if you have something fairly reliable let me know.

BTW your PM is not working.

Later bro,

Jayson

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Xtragrande

03-21-08, 20:34

This is my second visit to SZ of the year. Would really like to try out many of the interesting places available for mongering.

Certainly find this forum very useful for a newbie like me. After much thorough RTFF, I decided to explore Seibu area yesterday. Much info and details have been provided in many past reports, so have no problem getting to the place of actions! And I remember from the forum that the pricing is 150/ST and 400/LT.

A newbie to the place would feel rather uneasy at the dark narrow alleys and tightly spaced shops. Plenty girls were found, averaging about 5-7 per shops. The mommies and pimps would be pulling your hands to pick their girl (s). Saw quite a few pretty ones.

After covering and walking around the alleys, managed to get a few phone contacts for call-in to hotel later. Didn't feel comfortable following them to their room although they insisted that they are clean, apparently their own place of accomodation.

Called up a girl from Guangxi who is a cute SYT.

Below is the FR:

No french kiss allowed and realized that the boobs were pushed up but perky tits. Apart from that, quite GFE and willing to have friendly chats. Had a nice shower where she cleaned me thoroughly from top to bottom. After shower, we wiped each other dry and proceed to the bed. She started with catbath around the body and then BJ. Willing to perform BBBJ at request which, was very good. She capped me after about 10-15min and started with cowgirl and then missh. Then flipped her over for doggie before ending. Found her to be very accomodative and responsive. Certainly high on GFE. Even offered to take me around the city.

Spent close to 2 hours in total. Paid her $150 and tipped her $30 for the great service. Hope this is not too much.

Armed with the confidence and experience gained from the morning, called up another girl frm Hubei who has a pair of huge boobs. Yes, specifically look for a well endowed one this time.

Was quite friendly until we got naked. Then things went pretty bad. She wanted to shower herself and refused to shower me. After the shower, she just asked to lie on the bed and immediately cap me for CBJ. She refused to BBBJ. Within 5min of CBJ, she asked to enter her mish. Tried to play with her pussy but had a foul smell that turned me off immediately. So, I am faced with a dead fish that really smells like one:.(

From that moment, could not really get a good hard-on and requested for BJ again. But she refused and insisted that the time is up! She insisted that ST ($150) is not more than 1 hour and LT($400) lasts only for 4 hours (not overnight). That really pissed me off and we stopped the session.

From these 2 sessions, I wanna get opinions from the forumer esp many pros and seniors here.

- Why would there be such a big difference in performance & GFE from the girls even from the same mommy

- What exactly is the duration for ST and LT. I thought ST=1 shot no matter how long and LT=overnight until the next morning, with unlimited shots.

- What really are the rule of thumbs to identify the gems, esp. Performer on bed and GFE

- there don't seem to be prominent sauna places in SZ like those commonly found in Zhuhai like DMY, Minghao etc. Are there any around Seibu, because RTTF on this tread did not really give as good as Zhuhai?

All pointers and info are appreciated.

Steven Jones

03-21-08, 21:28

Work in SZ, live in CP...best of both worlds.

-CPE

Ah cool, but . . .um . . .what/where is CP?

I've only been to SZ once and loved it, been to China a few times now, and HK.

Steven Jones

03-21-08, 21:30

CPE,

A lot of places (especially the smaller ones) in Luohu advertise their "happy hour" prices in print. It's a bit of marketing trick to get you to go in. The price is printed in big letters, and the happy hour time restrictions in some tiny fine print. Happy hour usually finishes around 4 pm or 6 pm depending on the place. So it does not sound like you guys got ripped off.

100 rmb "tip" for a HJ seems to be market rate in Luohu. Come out to LongGang...where the tip is 50 rmb ;-)

I only paid 50ish for the HJ in the massage palour near my hotel (Golder Luster), and that girl was amazing!

Scribe

03-23-08, 02:12

I've just had a brief trip to Shekou. Mid afternoon I went to the Chicken street area. The only bar open was the Lucky Angel bar, so I stopped and had a beer. There were some nice looking gals in there, but all the same faces as last year. Veterans of the trade. Fancying something fresh, I moved on and headed over to old Shekou.
I decided to avoid the Honey Bar, as the last time I went there was a big let-down. I'd gone in with a friend, both looking for girls. The Mamasan spent the whole time we were there looking at her mobile device, checking stock prices. She couldn't have cared less about our hard-ons. We left, unspent and unimpressed.
So this time, I chose the Manila Bar. Still early, none of the 'working' girls were there yet, just the Mama and her assistant. 5 minutes through my beer, Mama interupts her game of chequers to ask me if I want a girl. Why not. She gets on the blower, and a couple of minutes later, 2 cuties turn up. I chose one, who then sat beside me.
She was gorgeous. Not in a glamerous catwalk model kind of way, but in a petite firm trendy cute chinese shop-assistant kind of way. Those girls do it for me.
She's 18, no English skills but friendly and polite. Finishing my beer, we walked 1 minute to her apartment, where we did the deed. She was quite perfect naked, with smooth hairless skin, firm baps and a tiny trimmed crotch.
I did enjoy it. Total damage was 200.
She's a BBS girl, and we walked past her place of work on the way to her apartment. The girls cost 150 from the BBSs directly, but if they are brought to you in 1 of the bars or Seaman's shops, it's 200.
I noticed in that street that The Apple bar is reopening. Good news, as I've had some good times there in the past. I'll check it out when I return in about 2 weeks time. There are now also some decent western eateries around that area too, such as Mamas and the Ghost bar, which are facing a stretch of about 10 BBSs.

Scribe

03-23-08, 02:21

Eric Burden

03-23-08, 06:36

Not many recent reports on VBAR (Crowne Plaz Hotel) recently. I checked it out last night from about 10:30-2:00am. Very packed, loud but good American cover band. No cover, Beers are $50. Enlish widely spoken.

Seemed about 70% local chinese that come with their friends to drink and have fun. 20% white foreigners both men/women and less that 10% WG. The girls were generally good looking, not agressive at all. In fact it is hard to tell who is a WG.

There seemed to be a clique ofabout 6 Philipina girls and the rest were Chinese but hard to tell who was a WG. Some were just regular girls there to drink and dance and some were working. I was only approached once (outside). A few of the girls would make eye contact but not sure if they were working.

I chatted up a Chinese lady who made eye contact. Eventually she and her friends left. She was normal girl, maybe looking for a boyfriend.

At 2:00am, I was tired and had no prospects. A girl outside, propositioned me and I negotiated for 900RMB ST. Not a great price by Chinese standards but okay for Vbar. Went to my room. She turned out to be okay but nothing special: Undressed her - she had a nice firm body, natural B tits. Showered together, she gave me a short, uninspired CBJ, i fingered her lightly then CG, Miss and a doggy finish. She followed with a semi professional massage. I paid her and she left. Her English was pretty good and she was honest and a nice person but the sex was just so-so. If I had a choice, I would probably have picked someone else.

My opinion is that VBar isn't really the best mongering spot. It is primarily a high end bar for Chinese with a few white people and a handful of expensive, but not agressive WG. It is convenient, safe for those staying at the hotel but rather difficult to even find a WG (compared to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong).

EB

OldAsiaHand

03-23-08, 07:06

Xtragrande,

Welcome to the board. Great 1st post!

My favorite expression for BBS action is "Hit or Miss". This best describes your experience, as well. It is just a matter of chance.

There are some basics telltale signs to look for:

1) The hotter ones usually give less service.
2) The friendlier, talkative, bubbly type usually give better service.
3) If they are playing cards or intensely watching TV in the shop, they are usually in a hurry to get back.
4) If you repeat with the same girl, you may get better service the second time. If you get to know the mommy well, she may tell all her girls to perform for you.
5) IMHO, Hubei girls are not as good as Sichuan and Hunan girls.
6) Not so in your case, but many times all the girls from a good mommy will provide similar service.

The problem with BBS is that, unless you are a regular customer, they don't give a shit about you. It is a very transient business both for girls and customers.

At most BBS, one hour is pushing the limits for ST.

There are a few FS sauna places around, but not as many, as good or as cheap as ZH. There are still a couple in Sha Tsui and behind Jusco if I remember. Prices are less than 100 RMB for 2 hours + 200-300 tip for the girl. Some of the other senior members in SZ may be better informed of the current situation.

Just my POV.

OAH

This is my second visit to SZ of the year. Would really like to try out many of the interesting places available for mongering.

Certainly find this forum very useful for a newbie like me. After much thorough RTFF, I decided to explore Seibu area yesterday. Much info and details have been provided in many past reports, so have no problem getting to the place of actions! And I remember from the forum that the pricing is 150/ST and 400/LT.

A newbie to the place would feel rather uneasy at the dark narrow alleys and tightly spaced shops. Plenty girls were found, averaging about 5-7 per shops. The mommies and pimps would be pulling your hands to pick their girl (s). Saw quite a few pretty ones.

After covering and walking around the alleys, managed to get a few phone contacts for call-in to hotel later. Didn't feel comfortable following them to their room although they insisted that they are clean, apparently their own place of accomodation.

Called up a girl from Guangxi who is a cute SYT.

Below is the FR:

No french kiss allowed and realized that the boobs were pushed up but perky tits. Apart from that, quite GFE and willing to have friendly chats. Had a nice shower where she cleaned me thoroughly from top to bottom. After shower, we wiped each other dry and proceed to the bed. She started with catbath around the body and then BJ. Willing to perform BBBJ at request which, was very good. She capped me after about 10-15min and started with cowgirl and then missh. Then flipped her over for doggie before ending. Found her to be very accomodative and responsive. Certainly high on GFE. Even offered to take me around the city.

Spent close to 2 hours in total. Paid her $150 and tipped her $30 for the great service. Hope this is not too much.

Armed with the confidence and experience gained from the morning, called up another girl frm Hubei who has a pair of huge boobs. Yes, specifically look for a well endowed one this time.

Was quite friendly until we got naked. Then things went pretty bad. She wanted to shower herself and refused to shower me. After the shower, she just asked to lie on the bed and immediately cap me for CBJ. She refused to BBBJ. Within 5min of CBJ, she asked to enter her mish. Tried to play with her pussy but had a foul smell that turned me off immediately. So, I am faced with a dead fish that really smells like one:.(

From that moment, could not really get a good hard-on and requested for BJ again. But she refused and insisted that the time is up! She insisted that ST ($150) is not more than 1 hour and LT($400) lasts only for 4 hours (not overnight). That really pissed me off and we stopped the session.

From these 2 sessions, I wanna get opinions from the forumer esp many pros and seniors here.

- Why would there be such a big difference in performance & GFE from the girls even from the same mommy

- What exactly is the duration for ST and LT. I thought ST=1 shot no matter how long and LT=overnight until the next morning, with unlimited shots.

- What really are the rule of thumbs to identify the gems, esp. Performer on bed and GFE

- there don't seem to be prominent sauna places in SZ like those commonly found in Zhuhai like DMY, Minghao etc. Are there any around Seibu, because RTTF on this tread did not really give as good as Zhuhai?

All pointers and info are appreciated.

Jayson420

03-23-08, 13:16

So I will be staying at the Lotus hotel this week only for a day.

Daved35 if you read this. Send me a PM on how to book that presidential suite for the cheap price.

Wanted to get 2 girls both for LT. Usually I take ST first and then make them stay for LT if I am having fun. But this time around I am not checking out until 2 the next afternoon. So I am already planning the LT.

Do you guys think I should call my papasan's # that I got from Bounce Around? He gave me pretty high price the last time I called in February.

Or should I try to just find a SW or mama on the street?

Or should I walk Seibu BBS and look for two girls to pluck out.

I am not sure I will get great LT service from two BBS girls. So I am kind of hesitant on that.

Any advice.

I'll give full reports once I get into HK on Friday.

Steven Jones

03-23-08, 21:30

Hi all

I stayed at this hotel a while back, and met a fellow mongerer, and we went to some location, I think it is one that is mentioned here a bit, but wanted to confirm it.

I don't know the name, or the location, but it was a series of very small alleys behind a fairly main road, and the front of a lot of the alleys had metal gates.

Now on the way back from this place to my hotel, it was a pretty straight road, which then turned right into CHUNFENG ROAD where the hotel is.

Does anyone recognize this area?

Jayson420

03-24-08, 05:54

Old Mean Dog

03-24-08, 07:09

Steven Jones

03-24-08, 13:41

Thanks guys, I can't wait ot get back to SZ!

AsnDragon

03-24-08, 21:31

I know what you mean about the BBS behind Seibu. They are quite intimidating at night time. It's dark and filthy. However, The girls are quite good looking in my book. I would give most if not many 7-8's with some occasional 9's/ Sure they are older than what you would get in the Dongguan area, but then again they wouldn't last in Dongguan cause they are too old to hack it in that market.

But for some reason the girls just seem very used and dirty. I mean i'm ok with Dongguan BBS, but for some reason Shenzhen BBS behind Seibu intimidates me until this day. Was just there last Tuesday, walked for 1 hours making circles in the alleys, but just couldn't commit to doing any of the girls. Even my Hong Kong friend says that many hong kong mongers stay away from them cause they seem to be more used and "dirtier" than others you may find elsewhere. But that was his comment.

I was so tempted to try it though, the girls were hot with nice bodies, but it just seemed to run down and dirty for my taste.

Is Nanshan or Shekou better quality and less used looking girls?

This is my second visit to SZ of the year. Would really like to try out many of the interesting places available for mongering.

Certainly find this forum very useful for a newbie like me. After much thorough RTFF, I decided to explore Seibu area yesterday. Much info and details have been provided in many past reports, so have no problem getting to the place of actions! And I remember from the forum that the pricing is 150/ST and 400/LT.

A newbie to the place would feel rather uneasy at the dark narrow alleys and tightly spaced shops. Plenty girls were found, averaging about 5-7 per shops. The mommies and pimps would be pulling your hands to pick their girl (s). Saw quite a few pretty ones.

After covering and walking around the alleys, managed to get a few phone contacts for call-in to hotel later. Didn't feel comfortable following them to their room although they insisted that they are clean, apparently their own place of accomodation.

Called up a girl from Guangxi who is a cute SYT.

Below is the FR:

No french kiss allowed and realized that the boobs were pushed up but perky tits. Apart from that, quite GFE and willing to have friendly chats. Had a nice shower where she cleaned me thoroughly from top to bottom. After shower, we wiped each other dry and proceed to the bed. She started with catbath around the body and then BJ. Willing to perform BBBJ at request which, was very good. She capped me after about 10-15min and started with cowgirl and then missh. Then flipped her over for doggie before ending. Found her to be very accomodative and responsive. Certainly high on GFE. Even offered to take me around the city.

Spent close to 2 hours in total. Paid her $150 and tipped her $30 for the great service. Hope this is not too much.

Armed with the confidence and experience gained from the morning, called up another girl frm Hubei who has a pair of huge boobs. Yes, specifically look for a well endowed one this time.

Was quite friendly until we got naked. Then things went pretty bad. She wanted to shower herself and refused to shower me. After the shower, she just asked to lie on the bed and immediately cap me for CBJ. She refused to BBBJ. Within 5min of CBJ, she asked to enter her mish. Tried to play with her pussy but had a foul smell that turned me off immediately. So, I am faced with a dead fish that really smells like one:.(

From that moment, could not really get a good hard-on and requested for BJ again. But she refused and insisted that the time is up! She insisted that ST ($150) is not more than 1 hour and LT($400) lasts only for 4 hours (not overnight). That really pissed me off and we stopped the session.

From these 2 sessions, I wanna get opinions from the forumer esp many pros and seniors here.

- Why would there be such a big difference in performance & GFE from the girls even from the same mommy

- What exactly is the duration for ST and LT. I thought ST=1 shot no matter how long and LT=overnight until the next morning, with unlimited shots.

- What really are the rule of thumbs to identify the gems, esp. Performer on bed and GFE

- there don't seem to be prominent sauna places in SZ like those commonly found in Zhuhai like DMY, Minghao etc. Are there any around Seibu, because RTTF on this tread did not really give as good as Zhuhai?

All pointers and info are appreciated.

Old Mean Dog

03-25-08, 05:49

OldAsiaHand

03-25-08, 08:49

IMHO, the BBS girls, as a rule, provide better service in CP more often than Seibu. My theory is that many punters do the CP girls LT so the girls make more effort in the first session hoping to hook you in for LT. The chances are very slim that they can get 4 ST sessions per day to equal to the 400 RMB they get for LT.

On the other hand, I reckon 90% of the business done in Seibu is ST. The prices can differ for LT depending on when you take the girl; the later the cheaper. Due to its close proximity to the train station, most of the punters are just popping over from HK for 1 or 2 quick pops before heading back across the border. Therefore, the girls are often in a rush to get back on the market during the peak window of opportunity.

Just my POV.

Wadman

03-25-08, 17:02

But for some reason the girls just seem very used and dirty.
...
Even my Hong Kong friend says that many hong kong mongers stay away from them cause they seem to be more used and "dirtier" than others you may find elsewhere. But that was his comment.

That's because the Seibu girls get only 50 rmb out of your 150 rmb. CP BBS girls get 100 rmb. At 50 rmb per pop, the Seibu girls obviously must do a lot of guys per day to make comparable money to other BBS girls... and they do! 10 to 12 guys per day is quite normal. Think about that next time you go to Seibu...

Steven Jones

03-25-08, 23:57

I am confused, are you saying the BBS's in DG (i.e. CP) are much nicer and cleaner than Seibu? Damn, we must go to different shops then, because these stables here in CP can become real shitholes once the girls start throwing their chicken bones, sunflower seeds and spitting on the floors. Besides a couple, most are housed in dumps anyway (i.e behind Yalan, and Hui Mei).

Seibu area is more confined and is smack dab in the heart of downtown. Another difference is; in CP it is always take-out, but in Seibu you can dine in and is actually the norm. I think most everytime I have popped a girl in the Seibu area, their rooms were pretty clean and neat, unlike the streets below.

If you are looking for farm fresh, then try around the Shangri-La or the Pink Apts. I think the majority I have had in Seibu range from 18-22, so this is not too old to hack it in CP, unless your one of them fellas.

-CPE

Yeah near te Shangri la and around the three (Two?) lions hotel there are loads of girls on offer, really pretty ones too! That is where I went on the first night, and had a good time ,though it did take the mama's a while to bring out the better looking women.

Acer V

03-26-08, 11:53

After reading CPE's post i just had to try this place. I found it easily. If at the corner of Dongmen and Shennan Lu facing north toward the elevated walkway it is the building at the the lower right (southeast) corner of the intersection. 5th floor. I was also quoted 500Y and tried a bit to bargain but was unsuccessful so insisted the guy bring me a young lass with good service.

He did just that. She was all smiles from minute 1 and we spent at least an hour in sexual bliss. A cute little spinner, she was initially worried about my Loawai size but after lots of warm up she was loving every inch of it. Provided me her number for a follow up outside but unfortunately I am forced to be discrete so unlikely to take up her offer.

Good find CPE, I'll definitely repeat if opportunity permits.

Woody Shoes and I decided to try out a sauna yesterday evening and decided on the Flying Dragon Sauna Club. This sauna is located at the intersection of Dongmen and Shennan Rds., on the 5th floor of the China Construction Bank, very close to the Seibu area.

We didn't even make it out of the locker room before the attendents were asking us if we wanted FS or HJ and as soon as we sat down, the manager started hassling us.

Though the price said 68 for 1 hour foot massage and 2 hour body, that must be during certain times only, because the price we got was 28 for the footie and 58 for the body (maybe they misprinted the numbers?).

If one was wanting a HJ the damage was 168 total and if you ordered FS, he told us 500.....I am positive FS price was negotiable, HJ price was probably fixed.

The place is older and small, but it's clean, no tv's in the rooms so if you ain't talking to the girl, your just listening to yourself breath. All massage tables in every room we saw had been doubled up to create large beds....

I talked to my massage girl for a bit and she said that most ALL the guys who go there, go to the back rooms for the FS massage and that the girls were beautiful. I did notice a few in the back hallway and they did look pretty good.

Anyway, it is good to know there are places out there that offer more than the standard "rub & tug". It would be nice if Jackson did have some form of moderated sticky postings for things like this.

-CPE

Bob Builder

03-26-08, 13:40

Bob Builder

03-26-08, 13:48

That's because the Seibu girls get only 50 rmb out of your 150 rmb. CP BBS girls get 100 rmb. At 50 rmb per pop, the Seibu girls obviously must do a lot of guys per day to make comparable money to other BBS girls... and they do! 10 to 12 guys per day is quite normal. Think about that next time you go to Seibu...

The gals get 100 out of the 150 so there is no difference. As far as being dirty, just about every construction worker and kitchen hand in Hong Kong has at least 150 in his pocket. What do you expect for 150? If Adragon saw oldergals, there are 2 shops that cater for those who like more mature meat. Most of the others are 17-22 in age. I think it is easier to pick up a gal in a dark alley than under bright lights in a main highway. Most guys consider gals that suck cock for a living dirty. Its usually the good looking gals that guys get from KTVs that they tend to take more risks with and catching something nasty. Lets face it how many guys form here got to both KTVs and BBSs and don't always use protection!

Old Mean Dog

03-26-08, 15:18

I don't know where anyone got the idea that the 500 price was negotiable and coming from 2 HK guys that I know that go there 2x a week, it isn't. Unless you happen to pay for the rub and tug and convince the gal to give you FS with the risk of her getting in trouble.

Guys go there as they feel that it is worth the extra $$ for the safety and cleanliness.

The place is older and not even that nice. The manager I talked too had no problem discussing price with me openly in front of a female client and two other guys.

Apparently you HK guys don't have any bargaining skills or don't like to haggle.

-CPE

MegaPoint

03-29-08, 14:07

Walking around Seaworld yesterday, a young lad handed me this business card.
I'm curious to know if any members have yet tried this "Virgin pink lady russian ladyboy boy service"! If anyone has, please give us a report with all the gory details.

I reported on this guy and his business cards in January, I think. Nobody knows what the feck you get if you call him. My take on it, is that he's a reugular pimp, and that he just looked at some English language porm sites and wrote down a bunch of words at random... rather like the menu at the Hunan restaurant in Prince Square, with those dishes like "The Agricultural Wife fries the Black Cow Shreds..."

ManonsanBoy

03-30-08, 23:25

Tried a BBS pick up in Guanlan Town, which is off the radar limits for most in this forum. Non Putonghua speakers forget it. Anyway, there is a row of about 5 shops for FS and opposite side of the road, a few shops for HJ.

Price is 130 for take out. Regulars enjoy inhouse service for 100. Shops I had a look at had about 10-15 girls. Most 5-8. Papasan (13928414415)recognises me as a laoban. Offers "special". Only does Overnight and to hotel. 500 no negotiation. That had to be agreed to be seeing girl. I agreed and was taken to room upstairs. Two girls; both 9 body and face.

Took one to hotel for night. From Shanxi. She had a body to die for; firm breasts, very little body hair and thick lips and not too thin. 18 YO. Tight pussy and real reaction to DATV, BBBJ, all positions and just for interest I asked bareback, she said OK but please shot outside. She road me until I came (unusual).

Afterwards, talked; she has special arrangement with papasan. He gets 200 and she only does "high level" clients screened by papasan and only one a night. For some reason, we got on very well. She was in fact a "second wife" of a golfer who pays her 5000 a month. He comes up 1-2 days a week. She works at a golf shop during day so the 1 client rule and ON. She says the other special girl has a similar arrangement. She says they get about 5-10 clients like that per month. 7000 per month plus maybe another 1000 from gifts etc.

I did her again in the morning; nice and easy.

SE Asia Joe

03-31-08, 05:26

After not mongering around these parts for the longest time, I was pleasantly surprised that there really are some pretty good gems amongst all dem coal!

OK, the KTV's there are still pretty grotty - with the possible exception of perhaps the one at Wutongshan, but I hear that they're all gearing up to upgrade a bit i.e. Hai shan will start redecoration this week-end, The STK hotel by this summer. The deal is still 1-4-7 at most joints and the selection - if you come in early - is quite OK.

And early here is NOT that early like in other parts - the gals do not even start coming in until 8 pm and thus one can have a nice leisurely dinner prior to - something I do enjoy without having to worry about not getting the best selection because I was late. And of course dinner selection ain't bad at all - including the seafood street (which is still quite expensive by PRC standards - but much cheaper than HKG!).

The BBS's in the warren of streets bordered by the Swimming pool/sports center, China/HKG street and the border still remains quite well stocked with the usual card/mahjong playing whilst waiting gals and remains 150-200 depending on your bargaining power whilst the RMB48 HJ place under the STK hotel has quite a few nice specimens!

I decided to go to the Hai Shan before the re-decoration (and price increase??) and had 2 gals sit with me (heck why not - at RMB100 each?) whilst my mates also had their own. The ratio got even better as one of my friend had to go leave early and left his gal behind - and I was truly spoilt for choice. And I struck gold with the one I did eventually settle on - a solid 9 to 9.5 in terms of GFE, (I THINK she did really enjoy me enjoying her!), Body, Face, Service - and her ability to speak Cantonese even though she was from Jaingxi. GREAT overall! so much so that I was on auto-pilot and paid her 500 i/o 400! And no, not a BSD - I just like her a lot and wanted to show her my appreciation - AND told her so when giving the extra 100. (Or maybe I WAS acting like a BSD? Who the hell knows?! Who the hell cares - I was in bliss!)
SEAJ

Hainanien

03-31-08, 06:12

SE Asia Joe

03-31-08, 06:16

(Or maybe I WAS acting like a BSD? Who the hell knows?! Who the hell cares - I was in bliss!)>>>>>>>>>>>>>

reading past posts, IMO, YOU care more than most here about BSDs....

`funny how life can be sometimes.
Yup - guilty as charged. Funny..... weird actually. Oh well....
SEAJ
P.s. anybody else got an explanation for my recent 'affliction'???

SE Asia Joe

03-31-08, 06:26

P.s. anybody else got an explanation for my recent 'affliction'???
I'll come up with the first one.
It's because I guess I felt quite "at home" in STK, amongst familiar places, familiar people - and the basically less commercialized "feel" of places here. Most of the clientelle is local and/or HKG guys who come up here regularly to visit their regualr GF/concubines etc. Very much of a village feel and thus a feeling akin to "neighbourliness." I'd bumb into a mommie or a xiaojie or the white plate taxi drivers as I go buying groceries or out to eat or having a foot massage etc..
BUT still weird after all ......!
SEAJ

Old Mean Dog

03-31-08, 07:26

Yup - guilty as charged. Funny..... weird actually. Oh well....
SEAJ
P.s. anybody else got an explanation for my recent 'affliction'???

Yep, you crave affection and attention from the opposite sex and are weak for the pussy. She gave you the feeling it was special, so you melted like butter in the microwave.

;)

-CPE

Superforce99

03-31-08, 07:29

Wadman

03-31-08, 09:17

SE Asia Joe

03-31-08, 09:23

Hey SE Joe,

I'll be the first to say you sure as hell are not acting like an IMF...

You knew what the price is, you paid it, and then you gave the gal a tip because the girl gave you fantastic service. The only guys who wouldn't have done something similar in your situation would be IMFs, cheap asses, or broke asses.

SF99
Thanks for the vote of confidence etc.

BTW - just to let you guys know - we were 5 guys and we had probably 8 gals with us, plus the DJ and the assorted Mommies and PR managers etc coming in and out and drinking our beer. We stayed from 8:30 to 12;30 and the KTV bill was only....hold your breath....concentrate now.... RMB520!

Yup for the whole evening - and even if I am Toucan Joe, the rest of the crew were serious drinkers. Add the RMB100 for the DJ, (no actually we also gave her more - as she's our 'regular" DJ and we all like her lots!! Plus she's always giving us free beers - So we gave her RMB150!) So it was a whole RMB140 for each of us!!

I know that if I was in CP it would have been at least RMB3-400 each, 500 if at Crown Prince.... And that much with each of us only getting 1 gal! And fogedaboudit in SZ/SHA/BJ/GZ!

And here's another tip for you guys - do you guys realize what happens to beers ordered but not consumed? And these situations happens quite often when someone orders some more... but just cannot finish them or not realize that its BOGO and thus their order for 1 dozens becomes 2 dozens automatically. The Mommie or the DJ will volunteer to "keep" them for you for the next time you are there. They'll even give you a chit for these beers/liquor left behind. But most people do not realize that they will only keep it for one month/ max 2 months. Either that, or they just do not make it back before the expiry.

So what happens to all these 'orphaned' bottles of beers/spirits? Well, they are there for the Mommies/DJ etc to dole back out to their own favorite customers. And whilst doing so costs them nothing, it builds up their own standing with the favoured punter as indeed, he has been 'given face' which in turn builds up tremendous loyalty from them.

So next time you WANT TO FEEL like a BSD, just ask the mommie/PR manager/DJ if they would treat you to some free beers. chances are you ARE going to get at least some!! Anyway, it'll cost you nuthin' to ask!

SEAJ

SE Asia Joe

03-31-08, 09:25

I disagree. I think SEA Joe is an IMF (Isg Mailbox Full). I can't even insult him through PM. Joe, clean out your mailbox so I can at least send you email.
ROFLMAO!! OK OK - send me the insults now - its been cleared.
IMF/BSD Joe

SE Asia Joe

03-31-08, 09:29

SE Asia Joe

03-31-08, 10:41

OK - just to make sure that you guys don't get the wrong idea about - "how can a gal be any good at 1-47?" I'll show you the gal I did NOT chose - as the one I did do was much better! (but want to keep her for myself for now!!!)
SEAJ

Tiger 888

03-31-08, 11:50

Hold it, Hold it just one second here! I know the writing style, I recognize the cockiness, I feel the confidence.... but who the hell is Superforce99?? Why would the ZH King change his name..... and not tell us all??!!
SEAJ
Well, Johnnykon threw 3 sixes, turned 2 of them into 9s and became a superforce. Isn't that logical?

ABCinLA

03-31-08, 19:42

Based on some of the recent posts on this area or my want it to be that way assumptions; I was surprised to find Seibu more or less closed down as it was in January. Of course I did tour all the alleyways at about 830pm monday and again got approached by several runners/mommies and did find WGs available somewhat hidden like before. As this was my first day back I just decided to let myself get hassled by the mommies near the Century Plaza/Shangri La area and just took WGs there back to my room. Life goes on.

Crazier

04-01-08, 08:09

Tried a BBS pick up in Guanlan Town, which is off the radar limits for most in this forum. Non Putonghua speakers forget it. Anyway, there is a row of about 5 shops for FS and opposite side of the road, a few shops for HJ.

Damm! And I walked all around the town and speak some Putonghua but could not find anything except massage joints and KTVs.

Care to send me some kind of description of how to get there? By PM or perhaps you like to post some kind of simple map?

Thanks man!

C.

ABCinLA

04-01-08, 18:49

Well I went back tuesday 1230am to SEIBU and it was all opened up. I went to one of my favorite mommies and asked her what time she opens and she states 12 midnight. I guess I'll have to remember to always come by later at night. Pink apartments are the same.

ManonsanBoy

04-01-08, 20:36

Care to send me some kind of description of how to get there? By PM or perhaps you like to post some kind of simple map?

Thanks man!

C.

Call the papasan @ 13928414415 and just hand the phone to the taxi driver. Should cost you 10 RMB from the new Ballantines Hotel @ 07552922888

Hartsleeve

04-03-08, 07:21

Hartsleeve

04-03-08, 07:23

I was in Seibu at 1:30PM a few days ago. Plenty of shops open, plenty of girls working. I'd estimate about 50 or so girls total at that time. Some quite attractive.

Old Mean Dog

04-03-08, 16:44

Quoted from this Esquire article, the expats the author met told him that the women chase them in Shenzhen. And if you slap a girl on the a**, you'll get a phone number and a f***.

http://www.esquire.com/features/china0807-5

I'm in Shenzhen and I've yet to have the courage to slap any a**es to see if the article is accurate. Is it? Outside of P4P girls, how does one go about finding and keeping a regular girlfriend here?

I personally think I know his tour guide Jessie, she does speak near-perfect English, has a shit load of piercings in her ears and lives in Shekou, but that is that. She does not go to college and she is quite a short, round Guangdong girl, so now if this part is skewed, I seem to be a bit more suspect about his story. Maybe it's written by one of those English Teachers out in Nanshan, whose aspiring to be a writer (look at his other pieces).

That story will certainly increase the amount of mongers coming to China.

-CPE

Bearsk

04-04-08, 08:47

The price is fixed although it is not written down anywhere. The lady in charge came to talk with me after I had showered etc. Started with the 168RMB massage and since my Chinese is mangled Mandarin and she was speaking Cantonese, I told her I wanted the 500RMB special VIP unlisted "ang mo". She said OK.

I waited about 10 mins and was given choice of tall girl with angular Appearance from Shenzhen or a shorter super cute one. I went for the latter. 23 yo from Guangdong S.H. #63 156cm 48kg; pretty 8.5/10, nice breasts around 33B, nice arse. Some English words, proficient seemingly in both Cantonese and Mandarin. Initial shyness, BBBJ, fun, great attitude, slapped me several times for playing with her clitoris too long and during the mish. Great effort, very repeatable, on fact negotiated LT for 1000RMB tonight. The rooms are small and dated but is was not there for interior design.

The place is not all that easy to find for morons like me (I wuz jetlagged).
It is in Shennan East Rd. (Shennan Dong Lu) 40 metres from the corner with Dongmen on the south east side. It is not anywhere near any overbridge but the entrance is a direct right turn if you come out of the subway/UNDERpass on the south side of Shennan heading East. Outside there is no sign in English and the one in Chinese is obscure. The entrance is under a sign for a Japanese Teriyaki restaurant and right next to (what this week) is Pizza hut. One inside that door there will be a hostess to help you and a police officer guarding the elevator. On the list of occupants inside there is no mention of any on 5F. The list starts at 6F.

Once there is improved rapidly.

I don't know where anyone got the idea that the 500 price was negotiable and coming from 2 HK guys that I know that go there 2x a week, it isn't. Unless you happen to pay for the rub and tug and convince the gal to give you FS with the risk of her getting in trouble.

Guys go there as they feel that it is worth the extra $$ for the safety and cleanliness.

Old Mean Dog

04-04-08, 17:58

Firebird

04-05-08, 07:18

Well the mamasans are working in full force in front of the Landmark Hotel at night. I had me a nice 18yo spinner - good action - eager to please

Nobody Doe

04-06-08, 05:12

Taiwan Guy is traveling from Beijing to Shenzhen on April 7. He has been living and working in Beijing for more than 2 years, and his last trip to South China was 7 years ago in year 2001. He's from Taiwan so he can speak Chinese. Taiwan Guy is a friend of OldAsiaHand, but OAH will not be around next week.

Taiwan Guy is planning to visit Dongguan for mongering on Monday and Tuesday. Then Wed - Friday nights (probably Tuesday night too) he will stay in Shenzhen for business meetings and business dinners, but he will try his best to go mongering in Shenzhen after boring business dinners. Taiwan Guy's classmate, who's living & working in Canton for 2 years, will also go mongering with him.

Taiwan Guy would love to hang out with forum brothers from Shenzhen / Dongguan. Please PM your contact number.

Cheers,
Taiwan Guy

Jayson420

04-06-08, 20:29

I'm in Shenzhen and I've yet to have the courage to slap any a**es to see if the article is accurate. Is it? Outside of P4P girls, how does one go about finding and keeping a regular girlfriend here?Try asiafriendfinder

I have used it spamming out emails and have had 5 pretty regular fucks. Don't have to pay anything. Just the effort of chatting with them frequently before you meet.

Bearsk

04-07-08, 07:04

Your point CPE. I was tired and wanted to have a sure deal so I did NOT. I was beyond caring.

I did, however, learn interesting things from the girl I LTed and spent the next 2 days with. There are 24 girls on the books at Flying Dragon and they do standard massage and get paid 58RMB per time (house charges 168RMB). HJ and BJ with tips are up to the girl to negotiate.

If someone requests FS then the girls who are free get to look at them in the relaxation area on a close circuit TV (reverse fish bowl?). The manager asks for volunteers! Only 6 or 8 girls routinely do FS but others will if they need the money. The rate varies 468, 488, 568, 688, 888 RMB etc depending on what they think of the customer. I asked about 500RMB for me and my gal said she and the other one I saw thought it was fair so no haggle. They thought about offering a duo but were too shy about that. House takes 200-250RMB for FS.

Other things - they don't do anal and the management will suspend them for 5 days if they have bare back FS - need sign off from clinic to start again - they take condom wrapper back to manager when they sign out on each customer.

Hmm, maybe it is a fixed price then, but did you even try to negotiate since you just openly told her you wanted the 500RMB special VIP unlisted "ang mo"?

-CPE

Bearsk

04-07-08, 07:11

I stayed at Landmark - obviously remains GF. No problem having girl come to my room - gave her card from hotel with my first name and rm number on it. No hassles. There is a carpark on first underground level where you could enter (north side) and go to lift to avoid brief lobby transit.

The touts were out but actually next door to the CP - ? Price, GFE.

Well the mamasans are working in full force in front of the Landmark Hotel at night. I had me a nice 18yo spinner - good action - eager to please

Bearsk

04-07-08, 08:02

Imposing?! how can a 100ft wide fluoro billboard be anything less. Corner of East Jiabin (Street Seibu is in -KH is one block west of Seibu Center) and Nanhu (Street Landmark is in - one block south). Phone 13480619550

I fronted up at this place at 3am - unable to sleep and having done the rounds of Seibu BBS and the street scene, I did not want to pull a spinner to the hotel and have any problems. I went for a massage and to see what might happen.

My conclusion is that this is a very good legit place and I would take business clients there.

I went through the usual shower and shorts and top deal. THey offered me paper underpants that were too small so i declined. I went to relaxation area and got bombarded by managers wanting to sell different products. The girls in white are the massage and beauty specialists and they rate highly on the visual scale 7-9/10.

I agreed to foot massage 58RMB for 50 min - very good, 20RMB tip and then full oil massage plus facial 288RMB with Shen Woo Jin No 526# 22 yo from Hubei. One thing is missed is that there is a bit of competition between providers for various services so you can pick and choose a little on who does the massage.

This took about 3 hours in the massage area at the end of 2nd floor. She seemed quite tense to start and had limited English. At one stage her lag brushed my hand and she pulled away. She was very pretty with beautiful lips and softest skin. She is on the voluptuous side for Chinese 36+ at least a C maybe bigger with rounded shapely butt, legs OK but not long nor her best feature. Porcelain skin. I got to touch a little during the massage and its was very firm. Some guys don't like thin sort of girl, whereas i would be totally in there is opportunity presented.

I was very tired and by the end did not wish to push my luck given there were people in and out of the room bringing things and the door was ajar for the most part. On the other hand when she saw i had an erection she blushed and said "hao" which is later learnt means good or nice. At the end she told me the facial is over. I gave her a 100RMB tip on the sheet, she then blushed and said I was very nice. She then ran to get me a card on which she wrote her name in Chinese and her cell phone number. I stored this up but was distracted as otherwise detailed in posts. I will keep this for a further trip and perhaps revisit.

I think you might get HJ. BJ or FS here but its not routine and maybe girl dependent. It may occur on the upper floors where I do not go. I would go again for the same experience regardless.

Its at 2027 East Jiabin Road . Less than a minute walk from Siebu. Imposing entrance on the main road. Take a lift to the 1st floor - there will be girls in the foyer to direct you. Have fun and let me know what you think.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Shbman

04-07-08, 14:07

Hi,

Yes I know I am new here, and I have RTFF, but I can't seem to find a web address for the Lotus Hotel (Fu Rong).

Also please, if I book the sunshine or Panglin thrrough their web sites, what is a good rate, or should I be using elong or some other site.

Thanks,

Shb

Cooldoc72

04-07-08, 17:16

Hey Guys,

I am coming to Shenzhen for first time and to China as well. I dont speak any Chinese. Can you regulars who know the place guide me where to go for quality i.e. nice clubs etc. where one can pick up some nice girls to bring back to hotel?

I am not fond of ST @ odd places and all!

Tx Fellow Mongerers

JackTheLad2

04-07-08, 20:15

Imposing?! how can a 100ft wide fluoro billboard be anything less. Corner of East Jiabin (Street Seibu is in -KH is one block west of Seibu Center) and Nanhu .

I think you might get HJ. BJ or FS here but its not routine and maybe girl dependent. It may occur on the upper floors where I do not go. I would go again for the same experience regardless.

Your experiences are much the same as mine and there is no doubt you can spend an interesting few hours there. There are some hot totties around and there is an element of choice in who does your massage. For what it is worth, ask for a VIP room for your massage - there are no interruptions such as you experienced and there is no extra charge, and I gather there are about 140 such rooms. Whilst I did not get any extras, they were there, of that I have no doubt. When the girl lets your hands wander whilst she is massaging you you know there is. Unfortunatly I do not speak a word of Chinese and few of them speak English. I have eard that FS and all the rest is available there if you ask but it might be girl dependant. They will readily give you their phone number and come to your hotel after their shift.
Enjoy

JackTheLad2

04-07-08, 20:30

Old Mean Dog

04-07-08, 22:44

Can any fellow monger help me out please.

My "regular" Philippine girl from Hong Kong is having her visa break in Shenzhen for two weeks. There is little prospect of her adding to the millions she is earning in Wan Chai but wonders if, by chance, there are any bars she can go to in Shenzhen where she just might just be a source of interest. I dont know of any myself and wondered if any regular punter might be able to advise and/or help.

My very limited knowledge of Shenzhen would lead me to think it is all closely controlled but my friend has heard there is a bar that some of them on the visa break frequent

The "U" Bar next to Pacific Spa on Jiabin Lu close to Mixc in Luohu. If guys like flips, this is where they go.

-CPE

Sammon

04-07-08, 23:12

There are many bars frequented by foreigners like U bar, V bar etc. She can also hang out at top class Hotel bars where businessmen normally stay.
But the earning potential will be less compared to Hong kong. The chinese girls are available cheaply for 200 RMB for a pop and 400-500 LT.
If she is hot and sexy and young she could get 800 RMB LT.
But here is the problem. Seldom I have seen these visa girls by themselves. They are usually in a group arranged by the Hong kong pimp to come together and stay together. They usually stay in a dingy place 4 to a room.
I have met some PHI girls at U bar and have taken a pretty young girl for 600 LT. She hung out with me for a couple of days and I took her to lot of places.
I also have seen many girls go home empty because they compare Shenzhen to hong kong. The girl I was with was telling me she sometimes gets 1600 Hong kong dollars for one pop. She tells the guy she is going to stay alnight and after an hour gets a pre arranged phone call from her friend. After which she tells the guy that she has to leave because her friend is in some kind of trouble. She says this only works if the guy has paid up front which she insists. ( remember this fellow mongers, Never pay before).

Fast Eddie 48

04-07-08, 23:29

Can any fellow monger help me out please.

My "regular" Philippine girl from Hong Kong is having her visa break in Shenzhen for two weeks. There is little prospect of her adding to the millions she is earning in Wan Chai but wonders if, by chance, there are any bars she can go to in Shenzhen where she just might just be a source of interest. I dont know of any myself and wondered if any regular punter might be able to advise and/or help.

My very limited knowledge of Shenzhen would lead me to think it is all closely controlled but my friend has heard there is a bar that some of them on the visa break frequentJackthelad2,

I don't think it will be a good idea she will not able to make any money so many prc that is young pretty and cheap she is better off going to Macau to work there and she don't even cost her anything for the visa .

Fast eddie 48

AsnDragon

04-08-08, 00:17

Lotus is on the left side of Sunshine Hotel. (If you are viewing the front lobby from the outside) You'll see an F4 bar and club and it's on the 3rd floor I believe. You really can't miss it.

If you book hotels don't book through the internet. You should book thrugh the JL tour travel agency. It's the cheapest that you'll find around Luhou area. It should be around 650-750 RMB for Sunshine. Panglin, forgot about the same price range. JL tour is located at the LUHOU train station or at landmark hotel.

Hi,

Yes I know I am new here, and I have RTFF, but I can't seem to find a web address for the Lotus Hotel (Fu Rong).

Also please, if I book the sunshine or Panglin thrrough their web sites, what is a good rate, or should I be using elong or some other site.

Thanks,

Shb

Sky Ryder

04-08-08, 01:10

Jayson420

04-08-08, 01:13

Can any fellow monger help me out please.

My "regular" Philippine girl from Hong Kong is having her visa break in Shenzhen for two weeks. There is little prospect of her adding to the millions she is earning in Wan Chai but wonders if, by chance, there are any bars she can go to in Shenzhen where she just might just be a source of interest. I dont know of any myself and wondered if any regular punter might be able to advise and/or help.

My very limited knowledge of Shenzhen would lead me to think it is all closely controlled but my friend has heard there is a bar that some of them on the visa break frequentYep. Like CPExpat says. UBar is the place for flippers.

And lots of indian and black guys.

Its on the 3 floor up the lift. Personally I hate the place.

Jayson420

04-08-08, 01:14

Jayson420

04-08-08, 01:28

Finally getting around to posting my day stop over in SZ from a few weeks ago.

I landed at the lotus hotel based on Daved35 and CPExpat's recommendation. Easy enough to find. Connected to same building as sunshine hotel across street from panglin and diaganolly across from seibu.

Got to my hotel around 7pm. I had called hotel from HK airport to reserve a room. It was pretty difficult to reserve over the phone in english. I was trying to give her my mobile # in Chinese. That is maxing out my speaking capabilities. Haha.

Anyways. When checking in I asked to upgrade room. She shows me pictures. The presidential suite was 2888RMB. She says she gives to me for 2k. I tell her 1k. No go. The next room size one down is pretty nice. 588RMB. Its about 50m2. I take that one. Room is nice but old and no safe. But close and perfect for mongering.

I drop off my shit and walk out to lowu to pick up a knock off watch that is being repaired for me and also some vitamin V. First floor drug store sells it there. 50RMB for 3 pills. Its knock off shit but I had used it once before and it worked ok.

Then I went over to queens spa for a massage. I know its not HJ, BJ, or FS but I wanted a good massage. I shower, get my pajamas and head upstairs quickly. I sit down in front of big screen projector and watch the recent rambo flick. I order some food and a 7up and a foot massage. The lady rubs my feet down while I watch the movie over her head and eat my food. NO COMPLAINTS HERE. Haha.

She finishes and I tip her 20RMB on the sheet of paper.

Then I walk over to get a full body massage. I tell the guy in english that I want HK style. I had Chinese style last time and it fucking hurt. Lots of pressure points. HK has the oils and such.

Get about 90 mins of fairly decent massage. Almost puts me to sleep. The phone rings and she is asking me to extend. But I want to get out of here as its almost 12:30 in the morning by now. At this time I notice some sign in my room by the phone that states "absolutely no pornographic activity can occur on the premise" in english. Haha.

Anyways I head out, shower again, and up to pay.

Total was 388RMB for footie+20RMB tip, food, 7up, 90 min massage +50RMB tip.

Not bad. So I now walk the streets over to SOHO across from King glory plaza. I have been in this club about 5 times before and don't mind it. I have one JD and coke premix bottle. Fucking 60RMB. I drank it S. L. O. W.

Couple of girls wanted me to come drink at their table. But they had dudes with them already. And I wanted some mongering. So I passed. I was more just checking out the scene.

After my drink I bailed and headed over to Seibu. By now its 2 AM. And the SW are out in force with the tall white guy walking around by himself at 2am. Getting hit up left and right for massages. But I keep on to Seibu.

I will post up me Seibu report in a bit with pictures.

Stay tuned.

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Sky Ryder

04-08-08, 04:58

No Senor 420,
Just trying to find a way to ask for a little friendly advice. I guess I don't understand the "neighborhood" as well as I thought. If I in someway offended your sensibilities then I apolgize to you and any other "veteran" that was offended. I am accustomed to the Argentina and Brazil boards. If someone where to ask the same questions on that venue in a similar manner I would reply to them with my opinions and a little experience based recommendations, as long as it was evident they had taken to the time to at least look through a few pages of posts. You of course are free to ignore my posts as I am sure you will. MOnger on!

QUOTE=Jayson420]OMG dude... RTFF.

Are you looking for someone to hold your hand.[/QUOTE]

Old Mean Dog

04-08-08, 06:17

i will throw myself on the mercy of the "brotherhood of shenzen mongers". i think i am going to be moving to shenzen in a couple of months and will probably make my first visit to the city in the near future. my experiences lie in south america and also europe, i have almost none in asia.......well maybe for that one trip to bangkok which will never be forgotten. i know the value of speaking the local language, but i don't think my spanish is going to get me far. it will take some time to learn, but i plan to take some lessons to at least be able to converse a little.
so here is goes, i haven't been able to get a real handle on the p4p scene in shenzen. is it like buenos aires with the clubs, or rio with the termas( i will miss helpee), or germany with the fkk's or a combination of them all or something alotgether different. i haven't seen anything about escort services, but i can't speak, so i can't order.
i prefer the club thing were you see them, spend a few minutes, and then head out to a hotel or apartment. i have also enjoyed many wonderful nights in a couple of fkk's in germany. i guess i am asking for someone to kind of give me a big picture of the schenzen goings on and then i will try to ask a few more "intelligent" questions after researching a little more.
thank you in advance for your time!
sky

didn't you ask these questions already? look, you answered the majority of them yourself.....learn to speak some of the language! how the hell you gonna go to a night club and expect to score with a freebie if you can't even speak to her? escort services? there's *****s and potential *****s all over the place. i'm sure if you clean them up and dress them nicely they can look the part. maids who fuck? yeah sure, if you don't mind banging 40, 50 or 60 year old gals....what freaking hot 20-something chick is gonna want to be a maid and what old bag that is a maid would be a worthwhile fuck? p4p, yeah sz's got it, rtff the multitude of reports.

you know, there is a ton of other sites about sz that will give you a "bigger picture" of life in sz, other than isg. why don't you do some through research, and start studying the language, rather then keep asking these questions.

-cpe

btw: if there were fkk clubs in sz, it would have been reported, no reports means no such thing, or at least none anyone wants to report about.

Fast Eddie 48

04-08-08, 06:36

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]No Senor 420,

Just trying to find a way to ask for a little friendly advice. I guess I don't understand the "neighborhood" as well as I thought. If I in someway offended your sensibilities then I apolgize to you and any other "veteran" that was offended. I am accustomed to the Argentina and Brazil boards. If someone where to ask the same questions on that venue in a similar manner I would reply to them with my opinions and a little experience based recommendations, as long as it was evident they had taken to the time to at least look through a few pages of posts. You of course are free to ignore my posts as I am sure you will. MOnger on!

Just stay home in Sao Paulo I love MIllenuem and Bahamas there and all the Brothel at Jardin just stay there you will not like Shenzhen not as easy. You got all this hot woman in Brazil. I was just there for business going to china next.

Fast eddie 48

Apac Man

04-08-08, 06:40

Can any fellow monger help me out please.

My "regular" Philippine girl from Hong Kong is having her visa break in Shenzhen for two weeks. There is little prospect of her adding to the millions she is earning in Wan Chai but wonders if, by chance, there are any bars she can go to in Shenzhen where she just might just be a source of interest. I dont know of any myself and wondered if any regular punter might be able to advise and/or help.

My very limited knowledge of Shenzhen would lead me to think it is all closely controlled but my friend has heard there is a bar that some of them on the visa break frequent

Jack,

I once befriended a lady in SZ that provided boarding house for flipinas coming over and according to her, there is an agreement between managers in HK and LE in SZ that these girls will keep a very low profile while in China and will not engage in any open activities. They are even escorted when they go out for shopping! Of course this all can be total BS, but that is what I was told.

Regards,

APAC Man

Netter

04-08-08, 07:26

I will throw myself on the mercy of the "Brotherhood of Shenzen mongers"....

OMG dude... RTFF.
Check "Shenzhen board" in the dictionary, it's a synonym for xenophobia. When in Shenzhen, do exactly as told, or you'll get flamed ;)
Welcome to the club...
My personal impression: The Shenzhen mongers consider themselves an elite and want to impose their rules on everybody, but the mongering itself in Shenzhen is quite easy, even without language skills.
(If you are there long enough, learn the language, anyway. Like at any other place, I am sure it'll open additional doors and help you understand better, what is going on.)

SE Asia Joe

04-08-08, 07:54

Check "Shenzhen board" in the dictionary, it's a synonym for xenophobia. When in Shenzhen, do exactly as told, or you'll get flamed ;)
Welcome to the club...
My personal impression: The Shenzhen mongers consider themselves an elite and want to impose their rules on everybody, but the mongering itself in Shenzhen is quite easy, even without language skills.
(If you are there long enough, learn the language, anyway. Like at any other place, I am sure it'll open additional doors and help you understand better, what is going on.)

AND>>>>>this is what I found. Interesting.... no?? Especially when all that Cpat was asking you to do was to NOT keep on acting like a BSD and spoiling it for the rest of us - who do still need to monger around these parts.

9-23-07 Japan “General info”
This is a joke, no?

Please read the previous posts in the Japan thread, and you will find the answers to 99% of your questions.

And then come back and ask precise questions about the remaining 1% (and besides telling us that you are tall, but otherwise average looking mediterranean origin - tell us, how well you speak Japanese and if you are willing to pay high prices for high class mongering).

11-27-04 “Japan Photo Gallery”

I think you are mistaken, this forum is not about "free or cheap pussy." It is about pussy and sex in a much larger sense. We come here to know what to expect when we go somewhere, in order to get what we want and to avoid getting ripped of.

If you want cheap and hot, then read the postings concerning cheap and hot. Others may have different tastes, and they will be interested in different posts. So keep bitching about individual posts that you don't like, especially if, as is the case with JP's posts, others have already expressed their appreciation.

If you find here what you are looking for, then enjoy and be happy. If you don't find it, then you may as well stay away.

Superforce99

04-08-08, 08:23

-CPE

BTW: If there were FKK Clubs in SZ, it would have been reported, no reports means no such thing, or at least none anyone wants to report about.

I've gone to a couple of gatherings in Shenzhen that were held at hotel rooms or a host apartment, but it was more of a swingers type of environment. Private and invitation-only but, while interesting, I thought it was not really exciting or satisfying. The average young, tight Seibu BBS girl would be much better than the average woman at these parties.

But for real FKK clubs in SZ looking for paying patrons, I've never heard of them.

SF

Sky Ryder

04-08-08, 13:22

Thanks for the info Superforce. I am looking forward to seeing this Seibu area.

I've gone to a couple of gatherings in Shenzhen that were held at hotel rooms or a host apartment, but it was more of a swingers type of environment. Private and invitation-only but, while interesting, I thought it was not really exciting or satisfying. The average young, tight Seibu BBS girl would be much better than the average woman at these parties.

But for real FKK clubs in SZ looking for paying patrons, I've never heard of them.

SF

Old Mean Dog

04-08-08, 16:08

Old Mean Dog

04-08-08, 16:15

Thanks for the info Superforce. I am looking forward to seeing this Seibu area.

You can rent a single room in this area for 1200 rmb a month. This way, you are smack dab in "Ground Zero" and would have a better chance of convincing one to be your maid (for a nice price of course). You would also be able to rapidly improve your putonghua as well, since none of them can really speak English worth a damn.

-CPE

If you have some specific questions about SZ, please feel free to PM me and I will try to help.

You see Netter, we really are a bunch of nice guys....

Neuromancer

04-08-08, 16:57

Didn't you ask these questions already? Look, you answered the majority of them yourself.....learn to speak some of the language! How the hell you gonna go to a night club and expect to score with a freebie if you can't even speak to her? Escort Services? There's *****s and potential *****s all over the place. I'm sure if you clean them up and dress them nicely they can look the part. Maids who fuck? Yeah sure, if you don't mind banging 40, 50 or 60 year old gals....what freaking hot 20-something chick is gonna want to be a maid and what old bag that is a maid would be a worthwhile fuck? P4P, yeah SZ's got it, RTFF the multitude of reports.

You know, there is a ton of other sites about SZ that will give you a "bigger picture" of life in SZ, other than ISG. Why don't you do some through research, and start studying the language, rather then keep asking these questions.

-CPE

BTW: If there were FKK Clubs in SZ, it would have been reported, no reports means no such thing, or at least none anyone wants to report about.Go easy on the guy OK? Noticed a couple of "biases" if you can call it that (can't think of a better term).

I didn't see anything in Sky Riders original post which mentioned "freebies" or "maids". Which you commented on in your reply. Not really sure why you brought these up?

Anyway, maybe you're tired of answering newbie questions, but wouldn't the easier solution be to just ignore it? When you think about it, you're spending more effort on blasting the newbie. Maybe you're just tired of reading newbie questions.

Neuromancer

04-08-08, 17:02

Didn't you ask these questions already? Look, you answered the majority of them yourself.....learn to speak some of the language! How the hell you gonna go to a night club and expect to score with a freebie if you can't even speak to her? Escort Services? There's *****s and potential *****s all over the place. I'm sure if you clean them up and dress them nicely they can look the part. Maids who fuck? Yeah sure, if you don't mind banging 40, 50 or 60 year old gals....what freaking hot 20-something chick is gonna want to be a maid and what old bag that is a maid would be a worthwhile fuck? P4P, yeah SZ's got it, RTFF the multitude of reports.

You know, there is a ton of other sites about SZ that will give you a "bigger picture" of life in SZ, other than ISG. Why don't you do some through research, and start studying the language, rather then keep asking these questions.

-CPE

BTW: If there were FKK Clubs in SZ, it would have been reported, no reports means no such thing, or at least none anyone wants to report about.Sorry 'bout that last post dude - just read the DG board and saw that Sky Rider had mentioned maids (though didn't see anything about freebies)

Jayson420

04-08-08, 18:18

So I venture onto Seibu. I had been twice before and did not really know what to expect since I had heard reports that it was shut down currently. But then I had read that it opens after 12. Well it was 2 am now.

I turn left through the metal barriers that block the cars and down the main street and walk past the first alley on the right. Look down and see all the pink and blue lights and girls. So I know its on.

I walk all the way to the last alley and hang a right. I see mostly 5-6s. An occasional 7 or 8. But I am only looking for 2 girls. I guess I could of pulled one girl from one shop and the second from the other. If I am paying they would come. Right? But then I would be missing the chemistry between the chicks.

I make my way all the way through the all the alleys (getting pulled into most shops by the mamas). Finally in the last alley (actually the first alley and closest to jiabin rd. And at the last shop I see this little cute girl squatting on the ground looking all innocent. This shop has about 10 girls in it. It was crowded. I ask her to stand up. No one there is speaking any english. I am motioning her to stand up. But she won't. Another little frisky girl comes over to grab my package. She is cute also. But super small. So I have made my mind up I am taking both these girls. But I just try to size up the squatting one. I finally start talking to the papasan. We start the negotiation. I can't even remember what he starts at, it was so high. I grab paper and right down ST and LT. I ask him "ei mein bai ma? "

Yes he understands ST and LT. I then write down 150 next to ST and 400 next to LT. He starts laughing and talking to his friend. That is there. So I point to both girls. "er-guh" he says 1k each LT. I say 400 each LT. After about 15 mins of negotiating and I don't think I can get any further down, We finally get down to 600 each LT until noon. So that is 1200 total. He wants all 1200 up front. No way. I pay him 200 and girls 1000. He won't budge. He wants more money. I just start handing him the 200 and pulling the girls. But he is not having any of that. I had just been burned in SH for paying up front (see my other post) so I was hesitant. But we finally agree on 600 to him and 600 to girls.

I get his mobile and he walks me to my room and the girls also walk but on other side of street. On the way back to room, getting tons of propisitions for massage and this papa is just yelling at them telling them to back the fuck off. Haha.

I get to my hotel and tell him room #. Take elevator up and the girls are in the other elevator. Basically arrive at the same time. I bring them in and we kind of small talk. I went and popped one vitamin V, took a quick shower and then they showered. Both of them were pretty hot. I was pretty happy with my selection. And both pretty fun. Killer bods. So I was happy.

But when we got into bed the threesome ended up into more of a twosome, one at a time. I could not get the girls to touch each other as much as I tried. I would basically fuck one for about 10 minutes with the other just laying there watching. Then the one I was fucking would tell me to fuck the other one. So I pull out, change doms and fuck the other one. Also they were talking to each other the whole time while I was fucking. That was slightly distracting. But I got them laughing and had a good time with them. So they started laughing and loosening up. They would jokingly grab the others tits and such. So the original one I was eyeing up really started warming up to me. And we kind of were making a connection. Even though I was still fucking the little girl. I went back and forth and back and forth on these girls. I had brought 9 condoms and I only had one left in the morning. LOL. Although I did notice the Lotus hotel has condoms stocked in the minibar. LOL.

Finally finished up around 730. We had returned to my room around 3ish. So I was hella tired now. I tell them to turn off the lights and lets take a nap. But they want to leave. And asking me to leave. (note to newbies: if you pay 100% in advance then they would of left). But they stayed cuz they wanted to get paid. We sat there trying to talk. One girl on each side of me. My still grabbing them up. And they are rubbing me down at same time. It was pretty nice.

When talking they said they each make about 7k a month. And that they don't really have many foreigners come through there. Mostly HK guys.

Yang Yang was from Hunan and was 18. She weighed 42kg and was 153cm. She spoke some english. And was really fun and bubbly. Lots of joking around and being a silly little girl.

Xiao Yu was from Sichuan and was 20. She weighed 47kg and was 164cm. She was more quiet and shy and reserved but really made a GFE connection with me. She wanted me to come back the next day and the next day.

At first they didn't want any pictures. But then they saw my iphone and wanted to play with it. And they started taking pictures of each other. LOL. Guess that worked. But this is why quality of pics sux.

I think both these girls were good finds. Finally around 930 they would not go to sleep and I had to check out at noon and wanted to sleep. So I told them I would pay them and they could leave. So I gave them each 300+100 tip. They got dressed slowly. Gave me hugs and kisses and slowly left.

I hit the sack.

I have papasans mobile # if anyone is interested. He only speaks Chinese. Zero english.

Also from my directions above you should be able to find the shop. PM if you want more directions. Just tell them the tall american guy sent you. I am sure they will know.

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Red Rock II

04-08-08, 19:46

Old Mean Dog

04-08-08, 22:49

Sorry 'bout that last post dude - just read the DG board and saw that Sky Rider had mentioned maids (though didn't see anything about freebies)

Also check the "Living In China" section as well. Same questions, different thread.

-CPE

Sky Ryder

04-08-08, 23:54

CPe, Thank you for the invitation, when I get into town I will take you up on the offer.
I am pretty sure there is a substantial difference in my post on the Living in China forum. While it was a bit far reaching (which I acknowledged in the post), it had almost nothing to do with specific locations etc. My post on this forum was to try a glean a little knowledge about the local happenings in Shenzen, which is exactly what I have received. I was mearly trying to see if the experiences I have had in other parts of this big blue ball we live on, have counterparts in Shenzen. (Other than the one big similarity) It appears they do not, which is both good and bad. I will get to experience a whole different take on the world's oldest. Maybe my "research" techniques need a little brushing up. I will try not to repeat the mistake.
Sky

Also check the "Living In China" section as well. Same questions, different thread.

-CPE

Jayson420

04-09-08, 04:04

Jayson420,

Quality report! Nice looking girl too. One question: you said that the guy wrote 400 next LT, but why he asked for 600 each. Since two will do less work each than one will do during the same period of time, shoule it be fair to ask 700 for two?I wrote down 400 for LT not the papasan. He started much higher.

Even though you are taking out two girls, I don't think you are going to get any discounts. No 2 for 1 coupons here.

So you really have to negotiate both almost individually.

Hope you guys liked the report. I still need to post my HK 141 (in HK section) experience I had the next day. Pretty fun.

Old Mean Dog

04-09-08, 06:39

CPe, Thank you for the invitation, when I get into town I will take you up on the offer.

Sky

PM me specific questions and I will try to help you or pass them onto others that can. Please do the research first though, for example maids had already been discussed in the past. I know it is a pain in the ass to sift through 1000's of posts, but if it appears you made the effort, others are more willing to help.

Also I suggest you check other, non-mongering websites about life in Shenzhen, you can start with www.szparty.com. If you are not being invited by a Chinese company for work purposes, obtaining a long term visa is going to be very difficult for you now, until after Oct 17th.

Santa

04-09-08, 08:43

So I venture onto Seibu. Well it was 2 am now.

Yes he understands ST and LT. I then write down 150 next to ST and 400 next to LT. He starts laughing and talking to his friend. That is there. So I point to both girls. "er-guh" he says 1k each LT. I say 400 each LT. After about 15 mins of negotiating and I don't think I can get any further down, We finally get down to 600 each LT until noon. So that is 1200 total. He wants all 1200 up front. No way. I pay him 200 and girls 1000. He won't budge. He wants more money. I just start handing him the 200 and pulling the girls. But he is not having any of that. I had just been burned in SH for paying up front (see my other post) so I was hesitant. But we finally agree on 600 to him and 600 to girls.

So I gave them each 300+100 tip. ]

Thanks for your post Jayson, but you overpaid. The 150 for ST and 400 for LT was the correct price, but you would probably have to pay an extra 50 ST for taking one to your hotel room. The pimp could see you had deep pockets and a hard one. I understand you enjoyed yourself and think it was good value, but you were overcharged, and then you overtipped.

I think an ok price would have been 500 LT and 50 tip. However, since it was already 3:00 am, you should have gotten them for 400 each.

If the pimp was very hard to negotiate with and "he wont budge", that is because other BSDs have come before you. He could probably see that you had decided on those two girls and you were very determined to have them, so you probably would not walk away. Also, the fact that you wanted two girls, when you only really needed one, made him think you had plenty of cash to splash.

However, you did at least negotiate. The pimp could probably tell us about other customers who paid the 1000rmb up front for LT with one girl and then only received ST service without even a BJ.

I will guess that Seibu will be completely ruined by the time the Olympics are over.

Just my opinion. Does anybody disagree with what I say?

Jayson420

04-09-08, 16:11

Thanks for your post Jayson, but you overpaid. The 150 for ST and 400 for LT was the correct price, but you would probably have to pay an extra 50 ST for taking one to your hotel room. The pimp could see you had deep pockets and a hard one. I understand you enjoyed yourself and think it was good value, but you were overcharged, and then you overtipped.

I think an ok price would have been 500 LT and 50 tip. However, since it was already 3:00 am, you should have gotten them for 400 each.

If the pimp was very hard to negotiate with and "he wont budge", that is because other BSDs have come before you. He could probably see that you had decided on those two girls and you were very determined to have them, so you probably would not walk away. Also, the fact that you wanted two girls, when you only really needed one, made him think you had plenty of cash to splash.

However, you did at least negotiate. The pimp could probably tell us about other customers who paid the 1000rmb up front for LT with one girl and then only received ST service without even a BJ.

I will guess that Seibu will be completely ruined by the time the Olympics are over.

Just my opinion. Does anybody disagree with what I say?Thanks for your feedback. I knew when I agreed on the 600 each I was overpaying. And I could of easily lied on my report. But I wanted to be honest.

And the reason I overpaid was almost exactly as you pointed out. But the same thing was not only going through the pimps head but also mine.

1. It was 3am
2. I had walked around a lot before and these two were the two that i wanted
3. I had one night in SZ
4. I had the hotel room close by
5. had a hard one for these two

I am sorry if I am fucking up the market for you guys. It was not my intention that early morning in Seibu.

but like I said., thanks for the feedback. Next time I am there I will try and stick to the 150/400.

Old Mean Dog

04-09-08, 16:11

I will guess that Seibu will be completely ruined by the time the Olympics are over.

Just my opinion. Does anybody disagree with what I say?

Someone posted awhile back ago that those of us who complain about guys overpaying are actually tightwads, cheapskates and/or broke S.O.B.'s.

I am not sure the Olympics will have such a huge impact on the sex industry in South China, since only one sport is being held and thats in HK (horse events). I do think that those guys coming here for the Canton Fair will certainly spoil the market in SZ-DG-GZ-ZH.

Guess we will know soon enough.

-CPE

JackTheLad2

04-09-08, 18:56

The "U" Bar next to Pacific Spa on Jiabin Lu close to Mixc in Luohu. If guys like flips, this is where they go.

-CPE

Thanks for the information and that provided by others (APAC man and Jayson420).

My Philippine girl and three of her friends paid a visit to the U bar last night and were refused admission by a woman at the door and the bar man. They now have a policy of not allowing flippers into the bar. May I add that I know the girls and they do not "advertise" their chosen profession.
Anyway, all was not lost and they found the "City Cowboy" bar nearby and had a great time until they left at 4.00am. They did not do any business - they were not really looking for any - but if any had come their way I don't suppose they would have refused. They were supplied with quite a few drinks by the mostly Chinese regulars there. Down side was no one spoke any English.

So if you are looking for a flipper, by-pass the U bar.

Monkey King

04-09-08, 20:09

Just got into Shenzhen after a week of business in HK. Checked into Lotus under the recommendation of fellow posters. I was greatly looking forward to this amazing HJ experience at the 3rd floor Lotus Sauna. Big failure. They don't do happy ending massages anymore. It's now just Thai style and Chinese style legit massage, which is overpriced. I pushed the managers on the topic and he admitted they stopped offering the "lotus" style of massage a while ago.

Can anyone recommend any good Saunas nearby that are nice and offer HJ or FS? Damn, now I won't be able to go to sleep after all that sexual frustration.

-MK

Their technique for the HJ is just amazing. But be sure to tell the supervisor that you want someone with more experience and ask for recommendations. In addition, the massage is pretty decent. While every girl has a bit of their own technique, i think it's worth a try. Most girls allow you to touch their breasts, but not below. It's better to ask the girl beforehand, because showing simple respect gives you a bit better service. Most of them will want you to take off their bras before you start playing with the breasts.

Number 6 and 9 are pretty cute looking girls.

If you get a VIP card, you can ge discounts every time you come in for a massage. I believe that it's 80RMB off if you have the VIP card. Only purchase it if you feel this is some place you'll be coming in often, because the card itself is 100RMB i believe. I'm not completely sure about the price since my friend had a VIP card and i used his.

Happy Hunting.

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ManonsanBoy

04-09-08, 20:53

I do think that those guys coming here for the Canton Fair will certainly spoil the market in SZ-DG-GZ-ZH.

Guess we will know soon enough.

-CPE[/QUOTE]

These are only a tiny fraction of the market. Forget it unless you are sucked in.

AsnDragon

04-10-08, 02:55

Monkey King,

Perhaps when you went in you seemed a bit suspicious or something. Because my friend went to Lotus to get a nice HJ and he was very satisfied with it. And this was 2 weeks ago. I'm not too sure what happened on hyour end. However, across the street from Sunshine (or across the street from Seaport Harbor Restaurant connected to Sunshine hotel) you will see a underground massage place. they offer HJ for 168 and you get a free foot massage. It's not as nicely decorated as Lotus, but they do offer HJ. Perhaps you can try that one out.

I am completely shocked that you got rejected at Lotus. You an try their sister store in 金碧 hotel, it's the same owner as Lotus. But Lotus is famous for HJ, so i don't know why they rejected you.

Do you speak chinese? strange. Very strange.

AsnDragon

Just got into Shenzhen after a week of business in HK. Checked into Lotus under the recommendation of fellow posters. I was greatly looking forward to this amazing HJ experience at the 3rd floor Lotus Sauna. Big failure. They don't do happy ending massages anymore. It's now just Thai style and Chinese style legit massage, which is overpriced. I pushed the managers on the topic and he admitted they stopped offering the "lotus" style of massage a while ago.

Can anyone recommend any good Saunas nearby that are nice and offer HJ or FS? Damn, now I won't be able to go to sleep after all that sexual frustration.

-MK

AsnDragon

04-10-08, 02:59

Canton fair does bring a lot more demand into the area. Guangzhou is most affected, i went to the canton fair 2 years ago and all of guangzhou hotels were booked. I had to rent an apartment style hotel for 200 bucks USD a night.

CP gets hit quite hard, hotel fees are more expensive by at least 15-20% all the foot massage places are packed and it does bring more competition of getting girls. Shenzhen gets less affected by the canton fair though, but you can sort of feel the influx of sausages into the area.

ZH doesn't get affected at all, perhaps only by the macau fair but not the canton fair though.

Speaking from experience.

I do think that those guys coming here for the Canton Fair will certainly spoil the market in SZ-DG-GZ-ZH.

Guess we will know soon enough.

-CPEThese are only a tiny fraction of the market. Forget it unless you are sucked in.[/QUOTE]

Old Mean Dog

04-10-08, 05:19

OldAsiaHand

04-10-08, 15:51

We hear it all the time. I was only in town one night, it was only an extra 25 US$. And on, and on, and on. Problem is that the papasan could read all of that on your face.

1) You always pay 100% after the deed in Seibu.
2) I think the price should have been 300 LT per girl at that hour.
3) The 100 RMB tip was way too much, especially since you overpaid in the first place.

Just my POV.

OAH

P.S. IMHO, SZ will not be affected by the Olympics.

Thanks for your post Jayson, but you overpaid. The 150 for ST and 400 for LT was the correct price, but you would probably have to pay an extra 50 ST for taking one to your hotel room. The pimp could see you had deep pockets and a hard one. I understand you enjoyed yourself and think it was good value, but you were overcharged, and then you overtipped.

I think an ok price would have been 500 LT and 50 tip. However, since it was already 3:00 am, you should have gotten them for 400 each.

If the pimp was very hard to negotiate with and "he wont budge", that is because other BSDs have come before you. He could probably see that you had decided on those two girls and you were very determined to have them, so you probably would not walk away. Also, the fact that you wanted two girls, when you only really needed one, made him think you had plenty of cash to splash.

However, you did at least negotiate. The pimp could probably tell us about other customers who paid the 1000rmb up front for LT with one girl and then only received ST service without even a BJ.

I will guess that Seibu will be completely ruined by the time the Olympics are over.

Just my opinion. Does anybody disagree with what I say?

Fast Eddie 48

04-10-08, 16:28

Canton fair does bring a lot more demand into the area. Guangzhou is most affected, i went to the canton fair 2 years ago and all of guangzhou hotels were booked. I had to rent an apartment style hotel for 200 bucks USD a night.

CP gets hit quite hard, hotel fees are more expensive by at least 15-20% all the foot massage places are packed and it does bring more competition of getting girls. Shenzhen gets less affected by the canton fair though, but you can sort of feel the influx of sausages into the area.

ZH doesn't get affected at all, perhaps only by the macau fair but not the canton fair though.

Speaking from experience.

These are only a tiny fraction of the market. Forget it unless you are sucked in.[/QUOTE]Asn dragon,

I have been going to Changping for over 8 yr now.

Only the last yr or so has the hotel in Changping raised the price during the fair, but that is only the 4 star place like Miraton.

I was staying at Hua Yu at 130 rmb, a 2 star place behind the Hui Mei Hotel, and I am booked there next week at this price .

Fast eddie 48

Superforce99

04-10-08, 16:29

We hear it all the time. I was only in town one night, it was only an extra 25 US$. And on, and on, and on. Problem is that the papasan could read all of that on your face.

1) You always pay 100% after the deed in Seibu.
2) I think the price should have been 300 LT per girl at that hour.
3) The 100 RMB tip was way too much, especially since you overpaid in the first place.

Just my POV.

OAH

P.S. IMHO, SZ will not be affected by the Olympics.

OAH,

That's the very definition of an Ignorant MotherFucker, right? To know something is wrong, yet do it anyway...but, well, when the dick is hard and the pussy is near, there are plenty of guys who become IMFs, but I'm sure after this first experience, Jayson won't repeat. He seems like a normal, intelligent guy who learns from experience....

Since most people will be going to Beijing for the Olympics, I doubt South China will be affected much (beyond more annoying fools wearing 2008 Olympics shit and spouting idiotic BS about the glorious benefits of hosting the Games). And I bet most foreigners are planning to visit Beijing/Shanghai/HK exclusively and not even touching upon Guangdong.

Yeah, a small number of seasoned/informed mongers (ironically, largely a creation of these very ISG reports) would probably stop by, though generally, I don't think "China" and "Sex Paradise" usually go together in most people's minds.

SF99

Jayson420

04-10-08, 22:17

We hear it all the time. I was only in town one night, it was only an extra 25 US$. And on, and on, and on. Problem is that the papasan could read all of that on your face.

1) You always pay 100% after the deed in Seibu.
2) I think the price should have been 300 LT per girl at that hour.
3) The 100 RMB tip was way too much, especially since you overpaid in the first place.

Just my POV.

OAH
OAH,

That's the very definition of an Ignorant MotherFucker, right? To know something is wrong, yet do it anyway...but, well, when the dick is hard and the pussy is near, there are plenty of guys who become IMFs, but I'm sure after this first experience, Jayson won't repeat. He seems like a normal, intelligent guy who learns from experience....

SF99Actually this was my 28th trip to SZ and my 3rd time in Seibu.

Bartering starts when one person has goods the other person has money. I knew the price you guys quote here on ISG. I wrote this on the papas paper and argued with this guy for 15 mins.

We got to a price which I thought was acceptable in my mind and I didn't want to waste more time as I thought it was worth more then the $$. Even between yourselves you have difference on what the right price was. Santa says 500LT would be OK but OAH says 300LT would be ok.

So I paid 600LT. Who fucking cares. I feel for me that was an acceptable price for the situation I was in. Do you guys want to come into LOWU and argue over how much I pay for my Tag's and Rolex's.

And about the fucking tips. I tip based on service. Many times I don't tip at all. I thought the service was great. I tipped them 100. You were not there. How can you criticize.

You can feel free to read all my other reports. If you want to flame me for the accurate report I gave without lies, I can just post my SH and HK reports and leave out the SZ ones going forward. Either way it won't change my mongering habits. LOL.

Peace,

Jayson

Bob Builder

04-11-08, 08:56

RTFF 4 Flying Dragon

-CPE
And negotiate a discount up front before you take your clothes off or you are just another BSD and you will have the wraith of ISG on you!

Bob Builder

04-11-08, 08:59

Actually this was my 28th trip to SZ and my 3rd time in Seibu.

Bartering starts when one person has goods the other person has money. I knew the price you guys quote here on ISG. I wrote this on the papas paper and argued with this guy for 15 mins.

We got to a price which I thought was acceptable in my mind and I didn't want to waste more time as I thought it was worth more then the $$. Even between yourselves you have difference on what the right price was. Santa says 500LT would be OK but OAH says 300LT would be ok.

So I paid 600LT. Who fucking cares. I feel for me that was an acceptable price for the situation I was in. Do you guys want to come into LOWU and argue over how much I pay for my Tag's and Rolex's.

And about the fucking tips. I tip based on service. Many times I don't tip at all. I thought the service was great. I tipped them 100. You were not there. How can you criticize.

You can feel free to read all my other reports. If you want to flame me for the accurate report I gave without lies, I can just post my SH and HK reports and leave out the SZ ones going forward. Either way it won't change my mongering habits. LOL.

Peace,

Jayson

While I don't think you would have got it for RMB300, RMB500 would be reasonable as there a lot of gals will want a premium for going with a foreigner. You probably did not do the obvious negotiating tactic and that was being prepared to walk away!

Just for all those lurkers out there who don't know how to get to Seibu, just tell the taxi driver you want to go to the street with gals behind the big boat in Shekhou.

Bob Builder

04-11-08, 09:13

Went to Sa Zui KTV end of last week with about 8 HK mongers. Don't know the name of the place but it is the first one on the right as you walk into the main street. There is a large convenience store across the street. It is larger that it looks from the outside with about 30-40 newly decorated rooms. Bar bill comes out to about RMB200/head including the RMB100 tip for the fecking useless DJ who was more interested in watching my buddies at the other table playing liar dice that filling my glass.
Price for gals is 2-3-6 with an additional charge of RMB60 for the ST rooms out the back which are on the clean side. Gals were mainly 6-8s but guys who chose 8s ended up with lousy bed service. One of my buddies and I split a pair of cousins from Wunan. Mine was 7+ in looks, not elegant but cute and pretended to be shy. Said she would throw up if she did BJ. But in the room she was a pro, BBBJ, DATY and DFK. Total GFE. Gave her 300 + 50 tip for excellent service. Would have taken her out for LT but early meeting. May have to go back for 3P.

The place is not the same as before if you are looking for a sea of gals roaming the streets. I found the KTV a reasonable place to drink. There were over 100 acceptable gals to chose from and the KTV and shagging rooms were new and clean. Maybe cause it was new as there were no cigarette burns on the sofas in the KTV rooms.

SE Asia Joe

04-11-08, 10:01

Actually this was my 28th trip to SZ and my 3rd time in Seibu.

So I paid 600LT. Who fucking cares.

LOL.

Peace,

Jayson

Perhaps...... you on your 29th trip when you find out that NOW you're identified as the BSD who is willing to pay 600??

Just IMHO - my very humble ones!

SEAJ

OldAsiaHand

04-11-08, 15:14

Bob Builder,

The price goes down as it gets later. I've been quoted anywhere from 400-600 RMB LT as early as 7PM, and have negotiated 300 RMB LT as early as 10PM in the area. The latter was a repeat. I rarely do LT so I don't have the opportunity to bargain often

You second comment on directions for the taxi driver is absolutely priceless!

OAH

While I don't think you would have got it for RMB300, RMB500 would be reasonable as there a lot of gals will want a premium for going with a foreigner. You probably did not do the obvious negotiating tactic and that was being prepared to walk away!

Just for all those lurkers out there who don't know how to get to Seibu, just tell the taxi driver you want to go to the street with gals behind the big boat in Shekhou.

JackTheLad2

04-11-08, 15:27

Have any regulars in the Shenzhen area heard of a bar called "Shieko" and if so are there any reports on it - is it a mongering place?

Fast Eddie 48

04-11-08, 16:21

Bob Builder,

The price goes down as it gets later. I've been quoted anywhere from 400-600 RMB LT as early as 7PM, and have negotiated 300 RMB LT as early as 10PM in the area. The latter was a repeat. I rarely do LT so I don't have the opportunity to bargain often

You second comment on directions for the taxi driver is absolutely priceless!

OAHOAH,

At Sebiu it also depend on the girl for the top girl mommie don't want to let them go for LT even at 11.pm ,I have qoute 800 rmb after bargining they just don't want to let the hot one go out the area .

Fast eddie 48

Old Mean Dog

04-11-08, 17:24

And negotiate a discount up front before you take your clothes off or you are just another BSD and you will have the wraith of ISG on you!

Thanks buddy, for giving me a warm fuzzy. I will be heading down to HK (TST area) next week, maybe we can meet up for lunch or coffee.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog

04-11-08, 17:29

Have any regulars in the Shenzhen area heard of a bar called "Shieko" and if so are there any reports on it - is it a mongering place?

Sounds like Shekou over in Nanshan. If so, it's a town in Nanshan. They have some places there for mongers and it's a good place to pickup freebies because most of the girls that frequent the nightclubs there have laowai fever.

I noticed that the 1st Class Club, which is next to the Sunshine Hotel, has changed to the "Dimples" Club.....who the hell comes up with the names for these nightclubs?

-CPE

Apac Man

04-11-08, 23:00

Bartering starts when one person has goods the other person has money. I knew the price you guys quote here on ISG. I wrote this on the papas paper and argued with this guy for 15 mins.

...

Jayson,

Not that I am the spokesperson for this room nor I am an experienced senior member here. What I think regulars are saying is at this point you should have walked away! The ST/LT price is what you wrote on the paper plus a little more if you are taking them to hotel. If papason does not agree, then there is no deal and you walk away.

Another point that many overlook is that RMB100 maybe only $14 to you and I, but it is a week salary for a blue collar worker in China (or as someone joked about, it is a weak salary). So next time please think of RMB100 as US$280.

Having said that, I truly understand your situation as well. I've been in the same boat as well. We, men, have two brains and when we are horny, the other brain does all the thinking.

Regards,

APAC Man

Jayson420

04-12-08, 00:06

Old Mean Dog

04-12-08, 07:01

I actually did walk away down to the end of the alley. And he called and pulled me back. I busted chops with this guy for 15 mins working on the price. I had been walking around for about an hour before and knew what quality was out there. I knew I could get some 5s or 6s for 300-400LT. But I was not prepared to take a fugly girl to my room for LT over a differene of 100RMB. I opted to take these two hotties for the 600 price. I probably could of sat there another 10 mins to get him down to 500LT. Honestly I am sorry if this is fucking up the market. But I do not consider myself a BSD.

Bu ke qi.

And thanks everyone for the PMs. Appreciate the feedback.

Bro,

We have all done it. It was 3 am and you had wood. You wanted it and paid the price he stated.....I live here, so of course I would have just walked, because tomorrow is another day, but this was not the situation in your case. We all learn from experience.

Those of us who live here or come here all the time complain about guys overpaying because, it does affect the market. Many will say that one guy does not spoil it, and that might be the case with some shops that don't get foreigners very often, but those shops that see us often, think we foreigners are all rich and will try to squeeze 100-300 more out of us. If we accept this, over time, this becomes the standard laowai price.

From my personal experience, finding 2 girls that really like each other in China, is like finding a needle in a haystack. Every time I have taken 2, all they do is exactly what happended to you. Maybe they will play with each others titties, but I have never seen two that got really wild with each other. It is purely an ego trip for us, they know this, so they will say anything to get you to buy them out.

Anway, good luck and did you buy those TAG's and Rolex's in or around Luohu Commerical Center? If so, have them checked for authenticity!

-CPE

IMHO: Remember "Smoke & Mirrors" while your in South China.

Soulman

04-12-08, 07:41

Fellow old time and other mongers!

Anyone up for some KTV actions or cruising the Seibu area (or other joints including DG CP) this weekend? PM me!

Staying at new Intercontinental.

Seibu was under crackdown last time I was there 3 months ago - even the takeout girls in front of Seibu.

Cheers
Soulman

Soulman

04-12-08, 07:43

Gents,

Just arrived in SZ after a boring week in Taipei. Please PM me if you're in town.

Cheers

OAH,

At Sebiu it also depend on the girl for the top girl mommie don't want to let them go for LT even at 11.pm ,I have qoute 800 rmb after bargining they just don't want to let the hot one go out the area .

Fast eddie 48

Shbman

04-12-08, 14:16

Just short one on the SIUF 3rd shenzhen international underwear fair. Finishes on 13th April at the Convention centre. All you need to get in is a business card and some half ase story. There seams to be "fashion prades" eavey half hour. So see whats on offer for only "looking", here's a2 pics.

Member #4378

04-12-08, 16:28

Does anyone know whether Best Western Shenzhen Felicity Hotel is GF and close to the action? Thanks.

AsnDragon

04-12-08, 21:48

CPE,

Check for authenticity?? or do you mean check for quality? It's hard to ever imagine anything being "real" or "authentic" when it comes to name brands in China. hahaha

Just too many knockoffs and too little authenticity when it comes to watches.

AsnDragon

Anway, good luck and did you buy those TAG's and Rolex's in or around Luohu Commerical Center? If so, have them checked for authenticity!

-CPE

IMHO: Remember "Smoke & Mirrors" while your in South China.[/QUOTE]

AsnDragon

04-12-08, 22:22

Are you referring to the best western that's right next to the train station, called "fu lue" hotel? If you are, then it is girl friendly. I've brought girls up there before without any major trouble. In terms of the action, there use to be a whole long road of BBS barbershops for you to pick girls. But i think they moved it away from the main road. But there should be lots of those mamasan and papasan handing out those business cards for you to call girls up to your hotel room, or for you to see on the road and then you pick and choose which ones you want to bring back to your hotel room.

Good luck and report back.

AsnDragon

Does anyone know whether Best Western Shenzhen Felicity Hotel is GF and close to the action? Thanks.

Bnlee2

04-13-08, 04:05

Does anyone know whether Best Western Shenzhen Felicity Hotel is GF and close to the action? Thanks.
yes it is very GF. as you walk out the driveway of the hotel you will be accosted by mommies and some pimp. Turn right from the driveway after the stairway crossing over to the train station you will find even more bbs. i have never tried those bbs, a bit too grungy for me.

last october i was literally taking them back to the BW Felicity and was never stopped by bellman or security. After the second day, the staff just smile as i walked in with arm candy. As for being 5 stars.... i think it is a bit exaggerated in my book. maybe one and a half stars less. By the third day, the bell captain told me that if i do not find anything he could have a few deliver to me in the room for around $1000rmb LT, i just smile , a tad to rich for me... when i could get them for much less.

OldAsiaHand

04-13-08, 06:10

Jayson420,

As foreigners in China, we will alway encounter situations where service providers will try to "hit a homerun" as JK666 puts it. Especially, in scenarios like you found yourself. When this happens to me, I just walk away and keep on walking regardless of how bad I want to do the girl. It is just the "principle" for me. I refuse to patronize those that try to rip me off. I would not even negotiate with a papasan that quoted 1,000 RMB LT.

There is already a double standard pricing system for foreigners in Shanghai and the operators make no bones about it. Most BBS charge a 100RMB surcharge. I was at the newly remodeled XY Pub the other night and was charged 300 RMB. MAB told me the prices were 250 for locals, 280 for foreigners. The boss said, "It is only 20/50 RMB more, what the hell do you care about that?" The rich foreigner perception.

We can complain all we want about BSD/IMF spoiling the market. Most mongers visiting for a short period of time couldn'ti give a rats ass about it. They will pay want they want to pay regardless. And, there are plenty more that do not read ISG.

So, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Those of us that live here will pay the consequences anyway. This has caused me to stop posting information on new mongering areas that I find. It is a shame that I am not able to share information on this forum for fear that some BSD/IMF is going to screw it up.

Just my POV.

OAH

I actually did walk away down to the end of the alley. And he called and pulled me back. I busted chops with this guy for 15 mins working on the price. I had been walking around for about an hour before and knew what quality was out there. I knew I could get some 5s or 6s for 300-400LT. But I was not prepared to take a fugly girl to my room for LT over a differene of 100RMB. I opted to take these two hotties for the 600 price. I probably could of sat there another 10 mins to get him down to 500LT. Honestly I am sorry if this is fucking up the market. But I do not consider myself a BSD.

Bu ke qi.

And thanks everyone for the PMs. Appreciate the feedback.

Santa

04-13-08, 14:38

This has caused me to stop posting information on new mongering areas that I find. It is a shame that I am not able to share information on this forum for fear that some BSD/IMF is going to screw it up.

Just my POV.

OAH

OAH was one of the first guys to post about this location. He told us where to go, how to get there, the quality to expect and the price. It is a sad day on this forum when OAH tells us, he is "not able to share this information".

FritsVanegter

04-13-08, 15:01

Hello,

Because airasia offers flight from BKK to Shenzhen nowadays i am thinking about spending ome time there. I would like to find a hotel like majestic suites or grand business in in Bkk. So close ( mean walking distance) to the girls and some shopping areas too. I have no need nd i don't wanna pay big price for hotels because i can sleep anywhere that is not to noisy , clean and safe. I would say 50$ is maximum. Anyone has some idea for a good area to be in and maybe the names of some gf hotels?

Many thanks in advance, Frits

JackTheLad2

04-13-08, 15:18

OAH was one of the first guys to post about this location. He told us where to go, how to get there, the quality to expect and the price. It is a sad day on this forum when OAH tells us, he is "not able to share this information".

Could not agree with Santa more - a couple of weeks ago when I was in Shenzhen I was quoted 200 by the mamasan out in the street, which I was prepared to pay. When the girl arrived at the hotel and was actually undressing the price she said had gone to 400. No way - I even started to help her dress again to get her out of the room (and me with a raging ready for business!). Its amazing when she saw I was serious about getting rid of her, the price went down, as did my hard on by that time. So stick to your guns out there about reasonable prices!

Hanner01

04-14-08, 13:08

Can confirm that Lotus Hotel 3rd Floor sauna is alive and kicking. Front desk eagerly confirmed an all-included "tui you" as soon as I walked in. VIP card for 50 rmb gets you 30 rmb off each visit.

H01

RTFF 4 Flying Dragon

-CPE

Soulman

04-15-08, 10:38

Went to Seibu around 3 AM Sun morning after KTV session in Tangxia Goodview. My date did not want to go to SZ even though I offered her 1200.

Seibu was hopping! It was very busy with girls, johns and people/cars every where. What a change as I was in Seibu only 3 months ago and it was DEAD. Agreed to pay 300 plus 50 for taxi ride back. Girl complained Intercontinental was too far. Anyway she was a terrible lay.

China Maverick

04-15-08, 15:58

Was away drinking with some friends on the weekend and was not wanting to go out of Nanshan and so they suggested a new place in Chaungye Lu. It was the first time to go there. Its called the "Dong Di hao Leisure center". One can call on 86211081. Staff is service oriented

Place is pretty decent and I guess it may not be a 100% mongering place but the local friends arranged everything. Chose a hottie from Wuhan and was pretty tight. No CBJ and kissing. 300 for the pop and 168 for the room. Rooms are pretty clean with shower.

Enjoy

CM

AsnDragon

04-16-08, 10:06

I knew lotus was still up and running. Don't know why there was a post previously posted where a guy couldn't even get an HJ. Lotus is well known in Shenzhen to give pretty decent HJs. Strange.

Glad you confirmed that Lotus is still a good destination to be at.

AsnDragon

Can confirm that Lotus Hotel 3rd Floor sauna is alive and kicking. Front desk eagerly confirmed an all-included "tui you" as soon as I walked in. VIP card for 50 rmb gets you 30 rmb off each visit.

H01

Sky Ryder

04-18-08, 23:51

I made into Shekou last night and when I got to my hotel, I found that there was a "problem" with my reservation. The problem was a lot of people stayed over becacuse of the impending typhoon and they didn't have rooms. The clerk was vey nice and found me another hotel, less expensive and it really didn't matter for one night. I was out walking to get something to eat, when I pass this cute little thing on the street. She was carrying a McDonald's bag no less and we smiled as we passed. I couldn't help but notice she had a really cute behind and turned around a little to lengthen my glance. She looked back and smiled...I'm busted!
I walked a few more steps when the WG radar went off! I turned around again and she looked back and stopped walking. So, here's the dilema, do I try this on for size or see what else might be available. Only been in town for a few hours, and I am tired.....she is cute. I stop, she stops and walks bak to me, approaches me and to my delight greets me in English, a big bonus! We chat, and she asks where I am staying and would I like her company, she gives great massage and maybe I would like to "Make Love" afterwards. I say okay, and the pricing discussions begin, she asks for 500RMB, I shook my head, she says "too much", I said yes, I will pay 200. We went back and forth a little and settled on 250 for 2-3 hours. Once in the room, she had a nice little figure and was a lot of fun, not much in the massage dept. , but we had a good time, cute figure and she really enjoyed my pocket rocket as I was doing her "doggie". She said she had neiver used one before and wanted mine. I told her she would have to "earn" it!
She stayed about 2.5. hours, two pops and a few laughs. Funny thing, she said "no suckee" without condom, but after about 10 mins. of aksing for a little, she went after it with a purpose. I kept my end of the bargain and didn't finish in her mouth, but what a trouper. She said she works at the phone company, which may or may not be true, but I do have her number, maybe I will call later in the week. It was a good start, I am interested in seeing what other opportunities lie ahead this week!

Cooldoc72

04-19-08, 13:32

Steven Jones

04-20-08, 01:12

Cooldoc, find the Thee Lions hotel in SZ, it is around the corner from the Shangri La hotel, which by all accounts near the train station.

Here you will meet many pimps handing out cards and the like, offering you girls. If you don't fancy them, just walk down the main road, and keep an eye out forthe side roads. Here you will often see a number of BBS's with the classis red and white striped rotating signs.

Poke around there, and you will find some action.

Or there are scouts and guides hanging around, they often speak English, talk to them, and they can arrange it for you, this is what I did last time I was in SZ. The woman took myself and a friend to a number of brothels, till we found what we wanted. She spoke English, and translated with the mamasans and the girls.

Shabah F117

04-20-08, 02:13

Iluvchik

04-20-08, 03:10

You should try Steve's suggestion.

If you still have hard time, you can PM me in the next few days.

You guys. I dont know about you but I am in China first time. Dont speak any Chinese obviously. Cant figure out the places where to go. Staying at Sunshine hotel. Cant ask or tell the taxi driver where to take me. I have hung out at Boss..... or something Club, In club, and went to U bar. But other than Seibu area is there any other hang out where one can hook up with babes WG?

The other day I was at this club and the guy told me that you can talk to girl but cannot take her out. I liked one girl and found out that the girl was dancer. ok but then i was told that if i want to chat with her have to pay 300. Since you dont know how to speak you cant explain or negotiate.

This was frustrating enough thought should buy a translator and today when checked them all of them had icons / buttons in Chinese!

Is any one else going through the similar misery as I am! Can any fellow monger put me on the right track?

Bnlee2

04-20-08, 03:44

You guys. I dont know about you but I am in China first time. Dont speak any Chinese obviously. Cant figure out the places where to go. Staying at Sunshine hotel. Cant ask or tell the taxi driver where to take me. I have hung out at Boss..... or something Club, In club, and went to U bar. But other than Seibu area is there any other hang out where one can hook up with babes WG?

The other day I was at this club and the guy told me that you can talk to girl but cannot take her out. I liked one girl and found out that the girl was dancer. ok but then i was told that if i want to chat with her have to pay 300. Since you dont know how to speak you cant explain or negotiate.

This was frustrating enough thought should buy a translator and today when checked them all of them had icons / buttons in Chinese!

Is any one else going through the similar misery as I am! Can any fellow monger put me on the right track?

Cooldoc..

For your personal safety... do not follow a tout, whether it is a male or female or if they speak good english or not. As for you Steven Jones, giving newbies like Cooldoc advice to follow these touts (whether you call them scouts or whatever). If you have RTFF you will know why. These touts are quite dangerous. You could get into more trouble than it is worth.

If you really want to monger, read the forum and look at what people are saying and where to go. coming into this board and saying that you are in town now is not the right venue to take. Plan ahead, buy a subscription (no i do not get a commission from Jackson, if you are wondering) and use the PM (Private Messaging) function and send some email to senior member. Some actually live and work in the area and can steer you in the right direction. There are times when several seniors member will go out and have some fun. These senior may already knows of places and have already establish contact.

Im in a rather good mood today due, if not i would have posted a "RTFF" to you.

As for you Steven Jones... i do not want to flame you but telling a newbie to hookup with one of those scouts that hangs out in hotel or shopping area is just Totally Irresponsible.

Santa

04-20-08, 05:48

Cooldoc..

For your personal safety... do not follow a tout, whether it is a male or female or if they speak good english or not. As for you Steven Jones, giving newbies like Cooldoc advice to follow these touts (whether you call them scouts or whatever). If you have RTFF you will know why. These touts are quite dangerous. You could get into more trouble than it is worth.

.

Totally agree with Bnlee.

However, if someone reading this forum decides to follow a street tout, or a guide, be sure ALL of you valuables and atm cards are inside your hotel safe. Carry no more than a very small amount of cash, let's say 200rmb.

Old Mean Dog

04-20-08, 07:19

You guys. I dont know about you but I am in China first time. Dont speak any Chinese obviously. Cant figure out the places where to go. Staying at Sunshine hotel.

Is any one else going through the similar misery as I am! Can any fellow monger put me on the right track?

If you were any closer to "Ground Zero" you would melt. If you look directly across the street and a little to the left, you would see a building with the words "SEIBU" on it. If you were to walk behind this building, to the first street with a metal barricade in it (to prevent vehicle traffic) you would be in the main BBS area of Shenzhen.

Even the main street in front of your hotel (Dongmen), you can still find the random SW's and pimps handing out calling cards.

I agree with others, it seems you did not RTFF and just want a quick handout because you can't be bothered to scroll past the first page.

Do more research...

-CPE

Da Dicknotist

04-20-08, 12:09

Hung around the Seibu area for a ridiculous 6 hours on Friday night, midnight to 6am. Turns out that at one of the massage places an old man had a heart attack and died while getting a hand job, so things are on a bit of lock down. The shops are supposed to be closed for five days, starting last Thursday, but they're not really following the law and just opening up at 3am.

Well, at midnight I was horny and wanted to fuck. I walked around and there were touts and mommies that recognized me and led me into the stairways and rooms to look at the girls... Most of the more attractive and higher earning girls didn't bother showing up because of the rain and the lockdown, so all I got was elephants and stinkers. Damn it. Almost when I was about to give up, I got to building #4 towards the back - jackpot! There were maybe 30 girls huddled on the staircase and I decided to try a new fresh looking Hunan girl instead. Only been here for a month or so, which is excellent. Great attitude, great in the sack, total GFE, and kissed me on the lips on the way out. Awesome. Got her phone number and banged her again the next day. (The next day, after I banged her I just chilled at the intersection having a smoke, and I saw her walk right by me. I was curious what was going on, and then saw her get into a cab with another john waiting for her. I'm glad I got her again!)

Then, I huddled into one of the big shops - it's in the alley closest to Jiabin Lu, about 3/4 of the way into the alley. They've got a big metal gate that you pull up and down to get in, which some bars blocking the window. The mommy knows me pretty well and I went inside to have a long chat with the girls. I treated everybody in the room (~15 WGs, me, a friend/fellow monger, and the 2 mommies) to dinner. Does that make me an IMF?

One of the WGs had a nice kit of makeup and face care products from the US, and didn't know what was what and it had really fucked up her face, so I had to tell her which was a mask, which was lotion, which was sunscreen, et al. She wanted to do me for free, but my policy's always been I only do one girl per house so as to keep the GFE factor, so I turned down free sex. Damn sense of honor.

Still, my girl and the mommy insisted I try one of the new girls. She just got there 2 or 3 days before and hadn't opened her account, and all the girls were worried for her. Well, her outfit was really fucking ugly, she had more armpit hair than I did, and she smelled funky. No shit no one wanted to do her. I was discrete and whispered it to her, but she was aghast and blurted it to everyone in the house, who thought it hilarious. After she went upstairs to shower and shave, she came back down and I promised to take her clothes shopping the day after. After my girl and the mommy insisted and waived the 50 RMB house fee, I did end up trying her - total dead fish. I like newish girls who've been there for a month or two, not fresh from the farm. She belongs in Luohu Village, not in the Seibu alleys. She's the Sichuan girl in the big house who wears baggy white pants with all kinds of shingles and buttons on it, all stuffed into black boots. The sex was even worse than the clothing.

Lastly, I went to one of the middle alleys to talk to the Hubei chick that thinks I'm her boyfriend and introduces me as such to all the WGs. You'll recognize her - roundish face, usually wears a white/black striped outfit, and sits across from the shop on a stool because she can't stand the smell of smoke. She's a good lay. I bought her a Red Bull and some noodles and she caught me up on what's going on. I wanted to bang a curly haired chick in the shop that was always on the phone, but she showed me no attention at all, prolly intimidated by the chick. Eh, went up with the girlfriend wanna-be and had a good romp.

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Da Dicknotist

04-20-08, 12:13

They say that the take-out girls around Seibu, not in the alleys, are "normal" girls that aren't full time WGs, and hence cleaner and better in bed. How come I definitely see the same girls every night? Anyway gotten to know any of them well enough to know what they really do?

Also, anyone call up the touts that hand out the multi-colored cards that profess to have flight attendants, virgins, Russians, models, etc? I'm kind of curious what kind of girls they can round up. Someone should take one for the team and get them to call the girls there. You'll prolly need to give them 20 RMB even if you don't like them as cab fare. I would, but I won't be back in Shenzhen for a couple of days.

Third, the touts advertising second wives. Wtf. Does that mean they'll be *my* second wife, or does that mean I'll be banging someone else's second wife?

(Wanted this in its own post and some might not read my long story. Sorry for double post.)

Cooldoc72

04-20-08, 12:44

Hi,

Thanks for the response guys. One thing is for sure that the fellow mongers are connected to save others and always try their best to enhance others pleasures. I guess that makes the brotherhood of this group stronger.

Bnlee2

You are right. I had been approached by different pimps / touts for the past three days / nights when coming or going from hotel. Infact I did manage to get one girl the other day to come with me. I had to take the walk with her through the hotel lobby and all. Well the girl spoke just enough to understand sign language but somehow I was anxious about her hygiene etc. So did not have so good time that I should have! All together she got 300 and her pimp got 200 (yeah I was drunk and could have done a better job! )

Any how yesterday I went to the IN bar again as I like the atmoshphere. Nice babes in there but all are looking to their mobile phones and are waiting for some locals etc. Then when the guys come they sit with them etc. However they don't even look at any guy / foreigner I mean! I stayed there for two drinks and enoyed looking and music. Then left to look for myself other places. I ended up being folllowed by a pimp just outside the Century Hotel. By now the Vodka and Tequila was working their way into my system. I decided to take the ride to the Never Land of Touts. I was taken into a dingy building to go up a stinking elevator. The elevator stopped on one floor with only one flat on it. The pimp took me in and their was one guy sweeping the floor and a women sitting and watching the TV welcomed me. I think this was one room apartment as I could see lots of hand bags lieing their in the walk area. I guess the other women working or must be out. I said the girl is nice but not for me. The pimp insisted that he show me other women. I decided to wait a bit to see her and then go. I had started to get an eery feeling by now. When the other girl had not arrived I told the pimp lets go down to check other girls. He kept on holding my hand. Then the girl who was sitting and watching tv got up and also insisted and was literrally trying to push me into sex! Any how I managed to get out of the apartment and then keeping the pimp interested in me I had him come downstairs not waiting for the elevator. Finally I got out! Wow what an experience. Yeah you are right not a good Idea!

I hung out at The G Club close to this area. An ugly looking mama came to me as soon as I sat in the bar / night club. She was not so happy that I told her I am not interested in her but she insisted that she loves me!

After one drink I left this place and came back to my hotel and decided to go to the Suana. Stayed there till was sleepy. After massage and then ended the day! What a day. I wonder what tonight holds for me! A real Chinese expedition I would say.

Cooldoc..

For your personal safety... do not follow a tout, whether it is a male or female or if they speak good english or not. As for you Steven Jones, giving newbies like Cooldoc advice to follow these touts (whether you call them scouts or whatever). If you have RTFF you will know why. These touts are quite dangerous. You could get into more trouble than it is worth.

If you really want to monger, read the forum and look at what people are saying and where to go. coming into this board and saying that you are in town now is not the right venue to take. Plan ahead, buy a subscription (no i do not get a commission from Jackson, if you are wondering) and use the PM (Private Messaging) function and send some email to senior member. Some actually live and work in the area and can steer you in the right direction. There are times when several seniors member will go out and have some fun. These senior may already knows of places and have already establish contact.

Im in a rather good mood today due, if not i would have posted a "RTFF" to you.

As for you Steven Jones... i do not want to flame you but telling a newbie to hookup with one of those scouts that hangs out in hotel or shopping area is just Totally Irresponsible.

Steven Jones

04-20-08, 17:13

Totally agree with Bnlee.

However, if someone reading this forum decides to follow a street tout, or a guide, be sure ALL of you valuables and atm cards are inside your hotel safe. Carry no more than a very small amount of cash, let's say 200rmb.

That is true,m sometimes I think with my dick and not my head. But I do only take the minimum cash with me, but it was still a silly thing to do.

ABCinLA

04-20-08, 22:33

Here is a guy who doesn't know any Mandarin nor Cantonese. He's got to take a chance or get a senior member to assist him. Now is it 100% safe, of course not. But sometimes you got to take a chance if you're looking for p4p or even so called freebies. Is it 100% safe in any big city in this world, of course not either. You got to have your eyes wide open and assume some risks if you can't take any then don't look for anything and stay in your hotel room. I've made the assumption that he is a big boy and know the ways of the world. Hell can you imagine trying to get p4p in NYC and not knowing English.

That is true,m sometimes I think with my dick and not my head. But I do only take the minimum cash with me, but it was still a silly thing to do.

OldAsiaHand

04-21-08, 02:58

This is one of the basic rules of mongering in China. It is not worth the risk, especially in SZ and especially if you are alone and do not know your way around. That said, seasoned, resident mongers can usually smell a con. I don't know how to describe it, but it just does not feel right somehow.

If you want to use the service of the touts around the train station, ask them to send the girls to your hotel room. If they are on the up and up, they will be pleased to oblige. If you do not have a hotel room, there are 1 or 2 buildings with girls and onsite accomodations nearby where it is safe to go with a tout. However, you should ask a senior member or local friend to show you which buildings before you venture in on your own.

Most of the scams go down on the fringe of the Luo Hu area, not in the train station area. So, if they ask you to hop in a taxi to someplace, you should be suspicious.

There is a wealth of valuable information on this thread on virtually every safe mongering opportunity in SZ. With all that information, it makes no sense to follow a tout anyway.

Just my POV.

OAH

That is true,m sometimes I think with my dick and not my head. But I do only take the minimum cash with me, but it was still a silly thing to do.

OldAsiaHand

04-21-08, 03:13

Woshilaozi,

As far as I know, there are 3 types of SW around Seibu. Many of them are controlled by mamas that say, "Misseeee". Others are freelancers that work every night. Can you call these normal girls? Finally, there are a few that just want to earn some extra money and if the opportunity arises they will go for it. I met one that I thought was a freebie at first. We hung out for about 2-3 hours before she invited me back to her place. From the way the place was set-up, I could tell it was really where she lived. She never mentioned money to me, but after I did her and was ready to leave, she shyly asked me for 200 RMB.

The cards are all bullshit. They will just find a Seibu girl and sell her to you for 400-600 RMB. The do not have any of the other types they offer.

They are talking about someone else's second wife, but it is probably bullshit too. There are second wives that fuck around on the side, but they do not need a tout to promote them.

Just my POV.

OAH

They say that the take-out girls around Seibu, not in the alleys, are "normal" girls that aren't full time WGs, and hence cleaner and better in bed. How come I definitely see the same girls every night? Anyway gotten to know any of them well enough to know what they really do?

Also, anyone call up the touts that hand out the multi-colored cards that profess to have flight attendants, virgins, Russians, models, etc? I'm kind of curious what kind of girls they can round up. Someone should take one for the team and get them to call the girls there. You'll prolly need to give them 20 RMB even if you don't like them as cab fare. I would, but I won't be back in Shenzhen for a couple of days.

Third, the touts advertising second wives. Wtf. Does that mean they'll be *my* second wife, or does that mean I'll be banging someone else's second wife?

(Wanted this in its own post and some might not read my long story. Sorry for double post.)

Moody

04-21-08, 13:37

Well the girl spoke just enough to understand sign language but somehow I was anxious about her hygiene etc. So did not have so good time that I should have!

Maybe you would prefer KTV. Girls from KTV usually tend to be a bit more cleaned up and they do fewer guys. I know I occasionally have problems with BBS girls because I can't get it out of my head how many guys they do. That's why I either have to be really horny or at least a bit drunk to go to those.

Niks647

04-21-08, 19:53

Hi Cooldoc

You can actually try Sunshine Hotel's in-house girls from their Sauna/SPA/massage facility. Either you can go there and negotiate the deal with the girl at the counter. Alternatively you can order a girl into your room by calling on sauna/spa center. It will be a bit expensive though but you do negotiate with the girl.

Other option is to go to Sunshine Club. Its towards left side of hotel and you have to take escalators behind moonlight lounge to reach there. The girls are quite great there. Do visit and report. Also try First Class Bar on right side of Hotel as lots of girls are available there too. The First class bar do require formal dress code though.

If you really enjoy music then go to Tru Color bar in Futian district. It has great atmosphere and cool music and lots of chics...but no apparent working girls.

All the best.

Hi,

Thanks for the response guys. One thing is for sure that the fellow mongers are connected to save others and always try their best to enhance others pleasures. I guess that makes the brotherhood of this group stronger.

Bnlee2

You are right. I had been approached by different pimps / touts for the past three days / nights when coming or going from hotel. Infact I did manage to get one girl the other day to come with me. I had to take the walk with her through the hotel lobby and all. Well the girl spoke just enough to understand sign language but somehow I was anxious about her hygiene etc. So did not have so good time that I should have! All together she got 300 and her pimp got 200 (yeah I was drunk and could have done a better job! )

Any how yesterday I went to the IN bar again as I like the atmoshphere. Nice babes in there but all are looking to their mobile phones and are waiting for some locals etc. Then when the guys come they sit with them etc. However they don't even look at any guy / foreigner I mean! I stayed there for two drinks and enoyed looking and music. Then left to look for myself other places. I ended up being folllowed by a pimp just outside the Century Hotel. By now the Vodka and Tequila was working their way into my system. I decided to take the ride to the Never Land of Touts. I was taken into a dingy building to go up a stinking elevator. The elevator stopped on one floor with only one flat on it. The pimp took me in and their was one guy sweeping the floor and a women sitting and watching the TV welcomed me. I think this was one room apartment as I could see lots of hand bags lieing their in the walk area. I guess the other women working or must be out. I said the girl is nice but not for me. The pimp insisted that he show me other women. I decided to wait a bit to see her and then go. I had started to get an eery feeling by now. When the other girl had not arrived I told the pimp lets go down to check other girls. He kept on holding my hand. Then the girl who was sitting and watching tv got up and also insisted and was literrally trying to push me into sex! Any how I managed to get out of the apartment and then keeping the pimp interested in me I had him come downstairs not waiting for the elevator. Finally I got out! Wow what an experience. Yeah you are right not a good Idea!

I hung out at The G Club close to this area. An ugly looking mama came to me as soon as I sat in the bar / night club. She was not so happy that I told her I am not interested in her but she insisted that she loves me!

After one drink I left this place and came back to my hotel and decided to go to the Suana. Stayed there till was sleepy. After massage and then ended the day! What a day. I wonder what tonight holds for me! A real Chinese expedition I would say.

SE Asia Joe

04-22-08, 05:18

Maybe you would prefer KTV. Girls from KTV usually tend to be a bit more cleaned up and they do fewer guys. I know I occasionally have problems with BBS girls because I can't get it out of my head how many guys they do. That's why I either have to be really horny or at least a bit drunk to go to those.
Hrrmmmph....Elitist!!

Have you ever considered that lots of KTV gals "graduated" from the BBS's 0r even.... the saunas?

Or that some gals just refuses to work at a KTV as it entails having to get drunk every night (or at least drinking copious amounts of liquor)

Or that a lot of them ends up only earning the 'sittting down' fees night after night as 1) a lot of local guys do NOT do much KTV take-outs? 2) Or that some routinely practices the AG switch of partying at a KTV and then when its time to do the dirty, they'd go down to the nearest BBS for a cheaper option?

Naaah.... I used to think the same way - but thanks to OAH, Bill, Santa etc, who introduced me to the joys of BBS land, I now have no such hang ups - and in fact find that a LOT of the BBS gals are indeed very low mileage/ relative newcomers to the profession.

Hmmmm come to think of it - I do tend to idealize most of the gals I happen to be with that particular moment don't I? So what's the difference if I pay 150/200 or 800, 1,000 or even much much more? I enjoy each and every encounter!!!

SEAJ

Old Mean Dog

04-22-08, 05:19

Also try First Class Bar on right side of Hotel as lots of girls are available there too. The First class bar do require formal dress code though.

If you really enjoy music then go to Tru Color bar in Futian district. It has great atmosphere and cool music and lots of chics...but no apparent working girls.

All the best.

Actually, the 1st Class Club has closed and now under new management and new name. The club is called "Dimples" now. Tru Colors has 2 or 3 clubs in SZ, there is one that is in the Dongmen Shopping area which is closer to him and maybe a little nicer than the one between Mixc and Citic Plaza.

The main club in Luohu now is called "Chocolate" and it's a huge joint. Also located in Dongmen Shopping are, but on the backside nearest Shennan Rd.

-CPE

Jayson420

04-22-08, 05:33

The main club in Luohu now is called "Chocolate" and it's a huge joint. Also located in Dongmen Shopping are, but on the backside nearest Shennan Rd.

-CPEI have been to chocolate 3 times. It is really nice. And there are some hot chicks in there. I picked up a freebie white chick from lithuania there once. She was very flexible once we got back to my hotel. LOL

Also Sparkle is a cool club that is like six months old. But I have no idea where it is. Somewhere in lou hu. But I wasnt driving when we went there.

Moody

04-22-08, 05:53

Hrrmmmph....Elitist!!

Have you ever considered that lots of KTV gals "graduated" from the BBS's 0r even.... the saunas?

SEAJ

Of course I know many KTV girls previously worked at either BBS or saunas. I'm fully aware a lot of them have been with hundreds of men at the very least.

The part that really gets me though, is whether the girls was with another guy or many guys that same day. Once I get that thought into my head, I obsess on it.

Once a girl's working at KTV though, they usually do much fewer guys on a day to day basis.

That doesn't mean I don't go to BBS, I go quite often. I just have to be in a certain mood for it. Also, I go to sauna a lot, especially if I'm in CP and don't have a place to stay for the night.

SE Asia Joe

04-22-08, 07:06

That doesn't mean I don't go to BBS, I go quite often. I just have to be in a certain mood for it. .
Guess that's why your handle is Moody - right?
SEAJ

Da Dicknotist

04-22-08, 15:38

OAH - thanks for your thoughts. I've read through many of your posts, and am incredibly impressed by your depth of knowledge of the many cities in China. If you are based in SZ, I'd love to meet up some time?

On touts, I'd agree with OAH for the most part. You can access stuff that's just as good on your own without the additional measure of risk that you take. I'd say something like unless you know the language, the area, and the tout very well, don't trust them. I should feel touts are *extremely* good for finding girls who are new to the game, but that's usually not a good experience as they simply don't perform as well.

On safety, I've always felt 100% safe in the Seibu area. I've been upstairs, downstairs, in the alleys, and in the main street during a police raid, and have always had no doubt there would be no bad consequences. I'd even venture to say that because the girls and mommies stay in the same area, you're safe from them stealing from you as well. The biggest concern for me is fellow mongers, and I've befriended many at the BBS and will speak up against drunk and abusive behavior. Still, using common sense is intelligent, particularly if you're not going to be in the area again.

A friend took me to Sha Wan's KTVs a couple of days ago and there were a massive amount of WGs in the area. There were a couple of apartments filled with girls, about 50 in all, of those who were "in training" to be a WG, or on their period, or just solely for takeout. If anyone is really interested in location, PM me.

Local guys often don't take out KTV girls because they go with such a large crowd of people someone's bound to leak the info. I, and some of my close local friends, have held back on many occasions because I'm not sure I want others to know about my little hobby.

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ManonsanBoy

04-22-08, 19:35

Hrrmmmph....Elitist!!

Have you ever considered that lots of KTV gals "graduated" from the BBS's 0r even.... the saunas?

SEAJ

I know a couple of mummies reasonably well. She was once a sauna girl herself and she was recruited from a BBS. There is a whole network. The sauna girls are the most trained in terms of sex. The BBS girls are basically untrained and pay for all theor own makeup etc. What you see is what you get.

Most of the KTV girls training is around dress and makeup.

Saunas are a different matter. I have had trainees in whith regular girls. The cost was 100 RMB for the trainees. They are taught the routine by the regulars who get 50 of their 100.

An attractive sauna girl is the most f**ked. There was a story that one of the Tangxia Goodview girl (she was stunning) got through 5 a day on alternative days @ 600. Apparently, she used to earn around 50,000 a month but she lasted only 6 months before being wrapped.

Old Mean Dog

04-23-08, 06:06

On safety, I've always felt 100% safe in the Seibu area. I've been upstairs, downstairs, in the alleys, and in the main street during a police raid, and have always had no doubt there would be no bad consequences.

Just a quick question, are you Chinese or of Asian decent?

Though I have been in China several years, I am still the big white guy. I am not real keen on soloing Seibu or places like this due to the fact that this is where a criminal element resides and the activities I partake in are of the illegal nature. I still like having a wingman to watch my back and vice versa.

-CPE

Bearsk

04-23-08, 06:34

Cooldoc I hope you are safe because at this rate you are cruising for a bruising.

I think you need to head for a massage place or stick to the Seibu BBS.

Try Flying Dragon Spa
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=727102&postcount=2044

or go into Seibu BBS and let them take care of you

or let tout deliver to your hotel room.

For Mandarin your translator device is designed for Chinese to communicate with you - most can be set in reverse but instructions are in Chinese!!

You can buy a Berlitz guidebook (and CD) on Jianbin at one of the bookstores.

A good site for sex words in Chinese is http://tianmi.info/牛屄语言/

In the meantime remember in mandarin

Dwee = right (yes)
Boo dwee = not right (no)
Piao Liarng = beautiful girl
An mo = massage
Mimi = tits
Yindi = clitoris
Yindao = vagina

Have fun, please be safe.

Hi,

Thanks for the response guys. One thing is for sure that the fellow mongers are connected to save others and always try their best to enhance others pleasures. I guess that makes the brotherhood of this group stronger.

Bnlee2

You are right. I had been approached by different pimps / touts for the past three days / nights when coming or going from hotel. Infact I did manage to get one girl the other day to come with me. I had to take the walk with her through the hotel lobby and all. Well the girl spoke just enough to understand sign language but somehow I was anxious about her hygiene etc. So did not have so good time that I should have! All together she got 300 and her pimp got 200 (yeah I was drunk and could have done a better job! )

Any how yesterday I went to the IN bar again as I like the atmoshphere. Nice babes in there but all are looking to their mobile phones and are waiting for some locals etc. Then when the guys come they sit with them etc. However they don't even look at any guy / foreigner I mean! I stayed there for two drinks and enoyed looking and music. Then left to look for myself other places. I ended up being folllowed by a pimp just outside the Century Hotel. By now the Vodka and Tequila was working their way into my system. I decided to take the ride to the Never Land of Touts. I was taken into a dingy building to go up a stinking elevator. The elevator stopped on one floor with only one flat on it. The pimp took me in and their was one guy sweeping the floor and a women sitting and watching the TV welcomed me. I think this was one room apartment as I could see lots of hand bags lieing their in the walk area. I guess the other women working or must be out. I said the girl is nice but not for me. The pimp insisted that he show me other women. I decided to wait a bit to see her and then go. I had started to get an eery feeling by now. When the other girl had not arrived I told the pimp lets go down to check other girls. He kept on holding my hand. Then the girl who was sitting and watching tv got up and also insisted and was literrally trying to push me into sex! Any how I managed to get out of the apartment and then keeping the pimp interested in me I had him come downstairs not waiting for the elevator. Finally I got out! Wow what an experience. Yeah you are right not a good Idea!

I hung out at The G Club close to this area. An ugly looking mama came to me as soon as I sat in the bar / night club. She was not so happy that I told her I am not interested in her but she insisted that she loves me!

After one drink I left this place and came back to my hotel and decided to go to the Suana. Stayed there till was sleepy. After massage and then ended the day! What a day. I wonder what tonight holds for me! A real Chinese expedition I would say.

Bearsk

04-23-08, 06:38

This also good advice.

Hi Cooldoc

You can actually try Sunshine Hotel's in-house girls from their Sauna/SPA/massage facility. Either you can go there and negotiate the deal with the girl at the counter. Alternatively you can order a girl into your room by calling on sauna/spa center. It will be a bit expensive though but you do negotiate with the girl.

Other option is to go to Sunshine Club. Its towards left side of hotel and you have to take escalators behind moonlight lounge to reach there. The girls are quite great there. Do visit and report. Also try First Class Bar on right side of Hotel as lots of girls are available there too. The First class bar do require formal dress code though.

If you really enjoy music then go to Tru Color bar in Futian district. It has great atmosphere and cool music and lots of chics...but no apparent working girls.

All the best.

Moody

04-23-08, 09:56

in the meantime remember in mandarin

dwee = right (yes)
boo dwee = not right (no)
piao liarng = beautiful girl
an mo = massage
mimi = tits
yindi = clitoris
yindao = vagina

have fun, please be safe.

couple comments:

dui (pronounced like dway) = yes
bu dui (pronounced like boodway accent on the dway) = wrong
piaoliang (pronounced like peeyaho leeyang) = generic pretty and can refer to anything.
liangnu/meinu = pretty girl
bo (pronounced like buo usually more common than mimi in south china, to ask for big breasted girl, ask for dabo, accent on the da) = breasts

yinhe (but nobody says this, it's something doctors would say) = clitoris
yindao (again, nobody says this except doctors) vagina

better to say xiaomeimei which means pussy, otherwise it sounds weird to the girl.

Peter Eastwest

04-23-08, 13:53

Passed through SK last week for 2 nights and managed to slip local agent after dinner both nights. I heard him on phone arranging dates with HIS little second wife but pretended not to understand as much mandarin as I do. Haha

He goes off to HER and I go pussy-hunting on old SK trying out BBS and clubs for a gal to take back to hotel.

Was tempted to take two from the Manila Bar (I think the street is Sheng-Le Street) but then thought they did not have chemisrty to perform together, so I took Julie first night and Rong-Rong (or Yong-Yong) second night.

Both were enthusiastic performers and earned their 250 for long time about midnight to 9.00am. No tips asked and none given.

Shame that I can not able to stay longer in SK. There was a gal in the next bar that looked hot. Maybe next time.

Now back to land of poor service and high prices. Roll on June for back to China.

PE
PS No nude photos aloud by either gal and couldn't be bothered to take non-nude.

Da Dicknotist

04-23-08, 15:05

Just a quick question, are you Chinese or of Asian decent?

Though I have been in China several years, I am still the big white guy. I am not real keen on soloing Seibu or places like this due to the fact that this is where a criminal element resides and the activities I partake in are of the illegal nature. I still like having a wingman to watch my back and vice versa.

-CPEI am Chinese and speak the language fluently, but there are still many places that I would not go solo. Seibu is not one of those. I'm a lot more terrified of going alone (or even with a group of less than 5) to some of the seedier KTVs and the like, particularly the ones that touts recommend. I've had bad experiences and friends have had worse ones.

If I were a big white guy, I might be less keen on going solo, but since most of the chicks and mamas are there every day if they fuck you over, they may face the consequences the next day. Honestly, I don't know of any terrifying stories in Seibu where the monger didn't fully deserve it.

An attractive sauna girl is the most f**ked. There was a story that one of the Tangxia Goodview girl (she was stunning) got through 5 a day on alternative days @ 600. Apparently, she used to earn around 50,000 a month but she lasted only 6 months before being wrapped.Not sure 5 a day every other day is the record. Many many BBS girls do 10 guys a day every day except for their period, and some of them have boyfriends who fuck them too. It's easier for the BBS girls to rack that up just because the time is so much shorter - many sauna girls spend the full 90 min with a customer, whereas BBS girls average 10 minutes.

Da Dicknotist

04-23-08, 15:23

A bigshot friend and I (both mid 20s Chinese) went to the Roxy last night. It's about a block north of Lushan Hotel, and it's the newest club in Shenzhen that's only been open for the last 2 months. My friend mentioned it being better than Face and Richie, and I didn't believe that to be possible, so we went.

One of the top level managers at the Queen Spa worked formerly at Chocolate, and is a part owner at the Roxy, so often you'll see the customer service people partying it up there or at Chocolate. If you have a special taste for one of the masseuses or girls in white or black suits at the Queen and have big cojones and a lot of charm, you can try to get them to meet you at Roxy after work. Those who are higher up (black suits) will usually be able to get a big discount for you at Roxy.

Roxy is two floors, with the first floor having a smallish dance floor, a lot of smaller tables, and the open bar area. Upstairs is VIP seating that you usually need to book a reservation in advance for, and can accommodate parties of 10 or more. We sat on the first floor, but slowly mingled with some people on the dance floor and were invited onto the VIP tables.

The VIP tables are usually older businessmen, but occasionally you'll have a younger contingent. I originally thought it was a big party and they were intimately familiar with everyone at the table, but found out that's totally not the case. Usually, it's two or three guys hosting the party and paying for the table and inviting friends, and telling them to bring friends of friends. It's rare for anyone except the host to know even half of the crowd. The younger crowds are not good for P4P, but many are keen on finding boyfriends.

For this forum's purposes, I'd recommend being at Roxy at midnight or 1am, when the business folk usually start heading back to wives and children. Most of the girls they have there are takeout girls from KTVs and night clubs, and since they already have the night off and have been paid they don't go back to work. They usually hang out for a good time, but here's a good opportunity to get one for a cheaper rate than you'd pay straight at the KTV. I was quoted 500 ST/1000 LT by a girl who works at the night club right next to the Queen Spa. A bit steep, but she mentioned the club she worked at, and I know those girls go out only at their discretion and are not obligated to sleep with anyone. Coughed up 500, knowing full well she'd stay the night if I treated her well.

She was absolutely stunning. Formerly worked for a Dalian company doing a lot of trade with a Japanese company, she was bought by one of the Japanese guys and put in Shenzhen where he currently travels a lot. Total party girl at heart, she genuinely likes drinking and dancing and the club culture. Only a mediocre fuck because she was so used to just lying there, although she seems to have really enjoyed having sex with a younger guy. Stayed the night and took me out for a nice lunch at the MixC. Hell, she makes more money than I do, it's just fair that she pays!

Would be a lot of fun as a part time girlfriend. Working on that right now.

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AsnDragon

04-23-08, 20:15

Oah,

Why are Shenzhen girls so hot? ! I mean they are just so many 9's and 10's all over, which I bet are rich Hong Kong or Chinese guy's second wives. But sometimes I don't mind just sitting at the busy intersection in Louhu and just stare at all the model quality girls.

I never see these types and qualities in CP or elsewhere. I wonder why? Or perhaps I can guess why. The hot ones come to shenzhen to earn the big bucks I suppose.

The best place to seek out these hot chicks are right by queen's spa and bread talk bread store corner. All of the second wives or KTV girls seem to live in the buildings above and across the street from there. It's just a constant supply of hot beautiful women. Melts my heart every time I go there, sit down, eat my bread and see a hot chick.

PS- oh and I also agree with you, part of it is that shenzhen girls just know how to dress better than CP girls. (the more you earn and the longer you stay, the better you dress)

AsnDragon

Woshilaozi,

As far as I know, there are 3 types of SW around Seibu. Many of them are controlled by mamas that say, "Misseeee". Others are freelancers that work every night. Can you call these normal girls? Finally, there are a few that just want to earn some extra money and if the opportunity arises they will go for it. I met one that I thought was a freebie at first. We hung out for about 2-3 hours before she invited me back to her place. From the way the place was set-up, I could tell it was really where she lived. She never mentioned money to me, but after I did her and was ready to leave, she shyly asked me for 200 RMB.

The cards are all bullshit. They will just find a Seibu girl and sell her to you for 400-600 RMB. The do not have any of the other types they offer.

They are talking about someone else's second wife, but it is probably bullshit too. There are second wives that fuck around on the side, but they do not need a tout to promote them.

Just my POV.

OAH

Niks647

04-23-08, 20:26

Hi CP

Do you mean that Tru Color Louho is re-named as Chocolate. Please explain me its location.

Hows this DIMPLES club. Have you tried it.

Actually, the 1st Class Club has closed and now under new management and new name. The club is called "Dimples" now. Tru Colors has 2 or 3 clubs in SZ, there is one that is in the Dongmen Shopping area which is closer to him and maybe a little nicer than the one between Mixc and Citic Plaza.

The main club in Luohu now is called "Chocolate" and it's a huge joint. Also located in Dongmen Shopping are, but on the backside nearest Shennan Rd.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog

04-23-08, 23:17

Honestly, I don't know of any terrifying stories in Seibu where the monger didn't fully deserve it.

Whose call is this, mine or theirs? I think its still better to be safe than sorry.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog

04-23-08, 23:19

Why are Shenzhen girls so hot? ! I mean they are just so many 9's and 10's all over, which I bet are rich Hong Kong or Chinese guy's second wives. But sometimes I don't mind just sitting at the busy intersection in Louhu and just stare at all the model quality girls.

Because the "Cream of the Crop", from all over China, come to Shenzhen to make money here.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog

04-23-08, 23:22

Hi CP

Do you mean that Tru Color Louho is re-named as Chocolate. Please explain me its location.

Hows this DIMPLES club. Have you tried it.

No, Tru Colors is still called Tru Colors Dongmen. The 1st Class Club, changed to Dimples. I have not gone inside Dimples to see if any interior changes were made. Chocolate is another club in the Dongmen Shopping Area.

-CPE

Bearsk

04-24-08, 06:38

thanks, i get by but learn all the time, sorry for butchering the mandarin language in the process.
"yinhe" or "yinde" with flex of a finger to girls in the bbs does seem to induce amusement and interest.

couple comments:

dui (pronounced like dway) = yes
bu dui (pronounced like boodway accent on the dway) = wrong
piaoliang (pronounced like peeyaho leeyang) = generic pretty and can refer to anything.
liangnu/meinu = pretty girl
bo (pronounced like buo usually more common than mimi in south china, to ask for big breasted girl, ask for dabo, accent on the da) = breasts

yinhe (but nobody says this, it's something doctors would say) = clitoris
yindao (again, nobody says this except doctors) vagina

better to say xiaomeimei which means pussy, otherwise it sounds weird to the girl.

Bearsk

04-24-08, 06:44

I am big white guy with limited language. The Seibu BBS does not worry me, a bit like HK141 - although bad things can happen to the girls there. I worry about touts trying to take me off track and crazy girls who have unpredictable behavior. I am also concerned about whether the girls want to be there or not and hygiene/health level in the BBS arena.

I am Chinese and speak the language fluently, but there are still many places that I would not go solo. Seibu is not one of those. I'm a lot more terrified of going alone (or even with a group of less than 5) to some of the seedier KTVs and the like, particularly the ones that touts recommend. I've had bad experiences and friends have had worse ones.

If I were a big white guy, I might be less keen on going solo, but since most of the chicks and mamas are there every day if they fuck you over, they may face the consequences the next day. Honestly, I don't know of any terrifying stories in Seibu where the monger didn't fully deserve it.

Not sure 5 a day every other day is the record. Many many BBS girls do 10 guys a day every day except for their period, and some of them have boyfriends who fuck them too. It's easier for the BBS girls to rack that up just because the time is so much shorter - many sauna girls spend the full 90 min with a customer, whereas BBS girls average 10 minutes.

Old Mean Dog

04-24-08, 09:27

I am big white guy with limited language. The Seibu BBS does not worry me, a bit like HK141 - although bad things can happen to the girls there. I worry about touts trying to take me off track and crazy girls who have unpredictable behavior. I am also concerned about whether the girls want to be there or not and hygiene/health level in the BBS arena.

There is a member of this forum that was assaulted by several guys in the room, tied up to the bed, wallet w/ATM card stolen, forced to reveal his PIN number and left in this precarious situation. I am fairly positive this was not his fetish nor is he into S&M and yes, the girl was in on it.

I also remember someone mentioning while he was up in the room, doing the business, there was a guy under the bed that was attempting to get his pants with wallet in it. If memory serves me, he saw his pants move off the cabinet and under the bed, when he decided to investigate.

It's not the girls I worry about.....

-CPE

Sky Ryder

04-25-08, 09:38

Well my business in Shekou concluded last night and for the first time in a week I had a chance to venture out for a while. Myself and three friends had a bite to eat and wound up a bar called the Terrace. They have a great cover band and there was a fair amount of eye candy. It was obvious that most of the ladies were non-pros, but I tried to chat with a couple of them with mixed success. One really cute one said she was really sorry, but she had to leave and hoped I would meet her in the same place tonight. We will see about that. Anyway we got into a table of four and one of the guys was doing well with one of the gals, but the others weren't interested. One of them was a stunner, but she knew it. Saw a group of about 5 gals and one guy enter and take a table in the back. All of them were cute and they had the "look" that said available.....for a price. After a while I asked one to dance and the game was on. As it turns out they are all from the Phillipines, having some difficutly with the visa process and they are going to Maucau on Wednesday because the Chinese would only let them stay for a week or so the story goes. We danced a little and then I asked her to go to my hotel, and she agreed.
In the room, showered, then took a few pictures, she was pretty shy and then the fun began. Great BBBJ, including the twins, although I did push her head down a little too far and gagged her. I aplogized and she said no problem. Donned the rainsuit and took my first dip into a flip. I discovered that walking the dog presented a great view of a very nice behind. The moment I finished she went for the cell phone to check a message. I was really tired, so I told her she could stay or go, but we had to decide now. She curled up beside me and off to la la land we went. I was awoken this morning by moist lips on my turgid member. I looked down, she smiled and I decided to let her finish...my best decision of the day......so far. We went to breakfast in the hotel and I put her in a cab. She never once asked for money, but I gave her 300 yn and she said she would get really dressed up for me tonight......another option. I want to try to go to Seibu, and I only have a couple of days left, I am just trying to figure out how to get there and if it is worth the trip. I would love to experience what a KTV is all about.
There is one nearby, but I don't understand the pricing and such and don't want to run up a big bill! So far a good first trip to China, I need to keep exploring!

Bearsk

04-25-08, 09:58

Was not me, I would try and negotiate that up front (LOL)... but point well taken.

There is a member of this forum that was assaulted by several guys in the room, tied up to the bed, wallet w/ATM card stolen, forced to reveal his PIN number and left in this precarious situation. I am fairly positive this was not his fetish nor is he into S&M and yes, the girl was in on it.

I also remember someone mentioning while he was up in the room, doing the business, there was a guy under the bed that was attempting to get his pants with wallet in it. If memory serves me, he saw his pants move off the cabinet and under the bed, when he decided to investigate.

It's not the girls I worry about.....

-CPE

Livefromseibu

04-25-08, 16:17

reporting live from seibu. only a couple of shops open. a few hotties rep001tered around outside me the alleys.

Weelock

04-26-08, 21:47

I am big white guy with limited language. The Seibu BBS does not worry me, a bit like HK141 - although bad things can happen to the girls there. I worry about touts trying to take me off track and crazy girls who have unpredictable behavior. I am also concerned about whether the girls want to be there or not and hygiene/health level in the BBS arena.

I recall reading on this forum or another forum, two girls were killed in Seibu during Chinese New Year for 2008. Then some old guy die from having sex with a girl. These are just rumors but the police closed Seibu completely for a while.

For HK141, there was a serial killer that killed a number of working girls just a few months ago. They started installing cameras which meant bad new for guys protecting their privacy. The HK police closed most of these HK141 places and the website HK141 was shutdown for a while. These are just a few examples of bad things that were posted and there are a lot more.

Da Dicknotist

04-27-08, 10:29

It's obviously safer if you take the girl out, and that's what I'd recommend to any newbies, those unfamiliar with the market, or the ultra cautious. But if you want to hear terrifying stories, there are those all over the city - the girl who gets de-organed in a shopping center bathroom, those with an arm chopped off by a passing motorcyclist so they can steal her purse, etc etc.

Be alert and spend some time in the area, talking with the mamas and the WGs. Service and safety both go up as you put more time into it.

Redflag80

04-27-08, 16:56

Hello there,

It is my first request. My mother tongue is Korean, not English. So please understand my short expression in English.

I will come to SZ for all kinds of massage. I really like to come to Ukraine for "Rakuena, http://www.rakuena.com/eng/services/ " massage style, however Ukraine is quite far from Korea. I don't want to pay a lot of money for flight.

I know there are a lot of massage center in China. However It is very hard to find good massage center. I want come not so popular place, I prefer private style massage shop. In these style shops, very good mood, good facility, like private wall-pool, good music, good looking girl, for good man gland, for strong man power massage. I don't want to fuck or happy ending really. I want long time lasting organism kinds of.

Please tell me proper massage center in SZ. My hotel is Century Kingdom Hotel, Baige Road,Buji Shenzhen China. Please give me good information about that.

Da Dicknotist

04-27-08, 17:49

Meant to comment on this earlier - it's called Dimple, not Dimples, and I believe it's named so because it's sponsored by the whiskey company. Could be wrong, but it's not a bad theory.

Sounds like Shekou over in Nanshan. If so, it's a town in Nanshan. They have some places there for mongers and it's a good place to pickup freebies because most of the girls that frequent the nightclubs there have laowai fever.

I noticed that the 1st Class Club, which is next to the Sunshine Hotel, has changed to the "Dimples" Club.....who the hell comes up with the names for these nightclubs?

-CPE

SE Asia Joe

04-27-08, 18:09

For HK141, They started installing cameras which meant bad new for guys protecting their privacy. The HK police closed most of these HK141 places and the website HK141 was shutdown. These are just a few examples of bad things that were posted and there are a lot more.
Actually, the cameras have been a fixture of the 141 places for as long as I can remember and was/is there to allow the gals to pick and chose who they would want to "entertain" or not. It was/is also there as a measure of protection by recording who it is that they were with - not that it did them any good when that crazy serial killer went at them!
Also, ****** is now back up and running
SEAJ

Steven Jones

04-28-08, 00:00

Dammit! I realyl want togo back to SZ! Must make an excuse soon!

Livefromseibu

04-28-08, 06:15

Century Kingdom has full service massage and a proper KTV Within, not a bad joint.

MpfsLover

04-28-08, 07:15

Redflag80,

Looking at your RAKUENA website. I don't think such massage style exists in SZ. The closest massage place that can match something like this would probably be in Macau, where you find more than what you are looking for.

Go check out the Macau forum and see if that meet your requirements.

cheers,
mpfslover

Hello there,

It is my first request. My mother tongue is Korean, not English. So please understand my short expression in English.

I will come to SZ for all kinds of massage. I really like to come to Ukraine for "Rakuena, http://www.rakuena.com/eng/services/ " massage style, however Ukraine is quite far from Korea. I don't want to pay a lot of money for flight.

I know there are a lot of massage center in China. However It is very hard to find good massage center. I want come not so popular place, I prefer private style massage shop. In these style shops, very good mood, good facility, like private wall-pool, good music, good looking girl, for good man gland, for strong man power massage. I don't want to fuck or happy ending really. I want long time lasting organism kinds of.

Please tell me proper massage center in SZ. My hotel is Century Kingdom Hotel, Baige Road,Buji Shenzhen China. Please give me good information about that.

Livefromseibu

04-28-08, 07:55

Century kingdom has a full service sauna with a leg spreading chair in the bathroom for the chick to wash and massage your goodies and back in the room her bag of tricks include vibrating egg up your behind, catbath, various fluids for hot cold BJ. After that you head to the KTV also in the hotel.

Steven Jones

04-29-08, 12:29

Apac Man

04-29-08, 13:05

What is a catbath?

You partner licking your body all over like a cat cleans herself!

Livefromseibu

04-29-08, 14:45

Chicks starting to head to work right now, sub par quality though. Totally dead before now. Saw chicks streaming (dressed in hot pants and micro minis) up the stairs towards the internet cafe across the street from the alleys, the net cafe next to the Muslim food place. Mesmerised by a hot arse in heels I followed her up to the cafe. Once in around the corner in the B section were 30 plus chicks, I guess this where they hang now instead me directly across from Panlin. A mama asked which I wanted, the shear number to choose from was overwhelming.

Livefromseibu

04-29-08, 14:58

Bloody mobile kong story short picked a hottie banged her for all i was worth for 200 with her panties and heels on, lovely.

Da Dicknotist

04-29-08, 15:04

A bit of panic last night at Seibu around 233. The police parked a big van on the Eastern side and one of them took a leisurely stroll through the alleys. I was chilling downstairs talking with a mama-san, waiting for my girl to get her makeup done for the night when all the gates suddenly began slamming shut. A buddy was upstairs getting his groove on and had absolutely no idea what was happening, and but by the time he came downstairs things were okay. That's on the girl though, who should be alert enough to hear all the gates slamming down.

If you're ever in such a situation and are downstairs, chill out. It's no crime to sit there and talk, smoke, drink, chill. If you are upstairs, either wait until you hear the gates opening back up, or go down *separately* from the girl. And by separately, I mean separate by a couple of minutes, not 10 seconds. The police usually don't hassle johns, but better safe than sorry.

Livefromseibu

04-29-08, 15:25

Just got back to Seibu alleys and all them purple lights are off.

Mama's and girls hanging in the main street.

Steven Jones

04-29-08, 16:43

You partner licking your body all over like a cat cleans herself!

Ah! Very cool.

OfficeXP

04-30-08, 18:10

Has anyone been and stayed in Hengfeng Haiyue International Hotel In Shenzhen? What is the KTV/Sauna service like any recomendations or advise about this place, and feedback/tips please

I be visiting form 29 May if anyone looking to monger around.

Many Thx

Livefromseibu

05-01-08, 00:10

2 to 3am Seibu slim but pickings, guess opt gone out for overnights. railings across from Panglin was busy but once again nothing to write good about. Headed down Chun fung road to the clubs. The neon signs were off but the clubs were packing. Saw a couple of Russians, watched a group of black dudes pick them up, definately on the game, fit bods but so so faces. Plenty of hotties but went for the Ktv chicks instead cos they were out of this world. Had to wait for oppo to approach cos they were with their chinese johns. Got her number waited for her to call paid her 1000. Showering again right now, back to give her another one when she's all clean.

Fast Eddie 48

05-01-08, 04:59

Forget Cebu! The beaches suck and the scene for women not as good as it used to be. Go to Angeles. Find a babe there, then fly to Boracay for the beach. IMHO.To Paul /Owl

Beach on North Cebu is not bad.

The Moaboal area is good for swiming and golf.

Boracay is overcrowed, and Bohol and Panglow island are great for the beach and scuba diving but suck for mongering.

Fast Eddie 48

Da Dicknotist

05-01-08, 06:17

Has anyone seen a really short, maybe 5'0, straightish black hair to her shoulders, rather pointy nose, and looks mixed in the railings area in front of Seibu? She was amazing, but when I wanted to take her I saw someone grab her first... Went back looking for her, haven't seen her since, but the mommies say they know who I'm talking about and she's there often.

233 = 2330 in previous post.

1000 for KTV girl after 3am?! They've already paid their bar fine, so you should be able to get a discount.

Steven Jones

05-01-08, 16:24

Livefromseibu

05-02-08, 08:52

How much do the Russian women charge out there?
A grand is the going rate for russians but unlike KTV chicks there's not much discount (in terms of price and pops) on repeat biz, more mercenary or less scheming whichever your point of view. If you're lazy the mamas across from Panglin can call some for your viewing.

Livefromseibu

05-02-08, 11:41

Livefromseibu

05-02-08, 13:56

Railings empty, alleys totally dark unlike a few days ago not a SW in sight. Will check out this Seibu area again in a few hours time.

Sky Ryder

05-02-08, 13:56

Gents,

I had a great time on first visit to China last week. I thank all of those that offered a few tidbits, it made a big difference. I do have an observation/question however. My mongering experience on other parts of the world have always included internet/ escort service ladies. I noticed that I have yet to see anything like this on the China board. I was just wondering if the "government" policy prohibits such offerings or is this not part of the the China program as it were.
I suspect the language barrier would account for some of the reason, but thought I would ask!
Thanks

Livefromseibu

05-02-08, 15:10

Fully open at 21:30 spoiled for choice. But by 22:00 all shut down again total ghost town frecky as hell. A couple me sailing mamas' claim a death a couple of days ago. True or not the raids alone are nerve packing enough.

Livefromseibu

05-02-08, 15:20

All lit up. As one brother said be careful and follow his advise about exit strategy.

OldAsiaHand

05-02-08, 16:19

Sky Ryder,

I believe that there have been some posts about escorts on other China threads. The infamous Kitty has advertised on the Classifieds thread. Craig's List has a few, other escort websites and some of the English language rags have ads. Most of these escorts charge ridiculous money when compared with the other endless P4P options that are readily available in China. I remember one post in Shanghai where one monger paid about 7,000 RMB LT. The poster was flamed big time. That is probably why there are not a lot of posts about their services even though I am sure they get their share of action.

Just my POV.

OAH

Gents,

I had a great time on first visit to China last week. I thank all of those that offered a few tidbits, it made a big difference. I do have an observation/question however. My mongering experience on other parts of the world have always included internet/ escort service ladies. I noticed that I have yet to see anything like this on the China board. I was just wondering if the "government" policy prohibits such offerings or is this not part of the the China program as it were.
I suspect the language barrier would account for some of the reason, but thought I would ask!
Thanks

Steven Jones

05-02-08, 23:54

A grand is the going rate for russians but unlike KTV chicks there's not much discount (in terms of price and pops) on repeat biz, more mercenary or less scheming whichever your point of view. If you're lazy the mamas across from Panglin can call some for your viewing.

So one Russian or 5 locals huh . . . I know what I'd go for! When in Rome and all.

Old Mean Dog

05-03-08, 05:18

How much do the Russian women charge out there?

This may sound odd, but if I wanted Russian hookers, I would probably go to Russia. Back in the day, ever notice how the foreign gals on 141 fetched much higher prices?

I used to know a Russian gal here in SZ working as an agent for a Russian company. She worked so little, she turned to doing tricks part time to make good money, get in the fancy nightclubs, restaurants and hotels. Problem was, besides her blue eyes and height, she was pretty damn common, maybe a 6, but was in such high demand with these Chinese fellas.

You can find them shopping in Dongmen sometimes as well and might reduce the price if your circumvent the pimp.

-CPE

Steven Jones

05-03-08, 12:18

This may sound odd, but if I wanted Russian hookers, I would probably go to Russia. Back in the day, ever notice how the foreign gals on 141 fetched much higher prices?

I used to know a Russian gal here in SZ working as an agent for a Russian company. She worked so little, she turned to doing tricks part time to make good money, get in the fancy nightclubs, restaurants and hotels. Problem was, besides her blue eyes and height, she was pretty damn common, maybe a 6, but was in such high demand with these Chinese fellas.

You can find them shopping in Dongmen sometimes as well and might reduce the price if your circumvent the pimp.

-CPE

I was just more curious than anything else, when I ws in Macau I saw a lot of Latin American working girls in casino's and clubs, and they where charging USD $200 I think, not that I partook.

OldAsiaHand

05-03-08, 13:30

You can get Russian hookers in Mongkok for 650HK$ ST and in Wanchai (Fenwicks/Neptune) for 1,000 HK$ ST if you negotiate. I pulled one from Fenwicks last week. I usually get poor service from Russians (mechanical) but this one was very GFE.

OAH

This may sound odd, but if I wanted Russian hookers, I would probably go to Russia. Back in the day, ever notice how the foreign gals on 141 fetched much higher prices?

I used to know a Russian gal here in SZ working as an agent for a Russian company. She worked so little, she turned to doing tricks part time to make good money, get in the fancy nightclubs, restaurants and hotels. Problem was, besides her blue eyes and height, she was pretty damn common, maybe a 6, but was in such high demand with these Chinese fellas.

You can find them shopping in Dongmen sometimes as well and might reduce the price if your circumvent the pimp.

-CPE

Da Dicknotist

05-03-08, 16:02

TangZhen

05-04-08, 07:37

With the changes going on in the general economy I have noticed a reflection in the BBS scene. Years ago the girls were hotter and that 150 encouraged a bit more emotion. 150 doesn't go as far as it used to and one effect is that these days I see a fair number of working girls who I would rate a pure 5. By that I mean a girl unremarkable in any way. They could be sales girls in a department store by their looks. A few years ago, maybe there were some girls who were a bit weak in one area or another, but you could understand why someone would go for such a girl, maybe a cute face, or sporty look. Even if that was not what you were looking for, you could understand an attraction. I would say maybe 10% of working girls in the BBS's would rate no attention if they were normally dressed in another environment.

I have tried one or two and generally they are more enthusiastic for sex and generally a good time.

Lvr37

05-05-08, 07:35

Santa

05-05-08, 07:57

I was staying at one of the hotels near the Shennan Highway. I was surprised to see there were condoms beside the bed and also in the bathroom. It was so convenient. Of course we need to pay for that.

They also charge between RMB150 t0 RMB180 for 3 hours

There was a government program to fight HIV and other STDs, and they requested all hotels put condoms in the rooms. It was a good idea. Unfortunately, the hotels charge high prices for those condoms.

You say "RMB150 to RMB180 for 3 hours". But, you didn't say for what or where. :confused:

Old Mean Dog

05-05-08, 15:32

I was staying at one of the hotels near the Shennan Highway. I was surprised to see there were condoms beside the bed and also in the bathroom. It was so convenient. Of course we need to pay for that.

They also charge between RMB150 t0 RMB180 for 3 hours

You can also find condom vending machines on the streets as well. Always be ready for a hookup :)

-CPE

Livefromseibu

05-05-08, 15:35

Cropped jeans, maybe a bit below the knee, with a greyish top that had dark blue lettering. Couldn't make out what it said.

I realize some of them have their hooker outfit, but most do change outfits in the summer. Would really appreciate it if you knew anything though.I've seen one short girl in short shorts with high heels with gorgeous legs, but she was at the beginning of the pack so thought i'd check out the alleys first but on return she was nowhere to be found papa mama couldn't find her either. Defineately the hottest of the lot cos i stayed for another hour waiting for her to come back with them pimps acting as look out, whilst checking out the other chicas on offer. She didn't return and the rest looked like dogs by comparison. Will ask the next time i drop by, pissing with rain tonight. It's on my way home but not my home, yet.

Lvr37

05-06-08, 05:04

There was a government program to fight HIV and other STDs, and they requested all hotels put condoms in the rooms. It was a good idea. Unfortunately, the hotels charge high prices for those condoms.

You say "RMB150 to RMB180 for 3 hours". But, you didn't say for what or where. :confused:

Sorry to miss out the vital information. There were hotels along Renming Road ( I hope it is correct) which charge RMB150 to RMB180 for 3 hours.

Downunder96

05-06-08, 14:41

Hello
I just arrived back from HK to SZ. Anyone has reliable mamasan number I can call to have my takeaway delivered? Wanted to go to CP but too late by the time I crossed the border. I am in Fumin Lu, Shui Wei
thanks heaps
Downunder96

Wizard561

05-07-08, 04:24

Bob Builder

05-07-08, 04:46

I've seen one short girl in short shorts with high heels with gorgeous legs, but she was at the beginning of the pack so thought i'd check out the alleys first but on return she was nowhere to be found papa mama couldn't find her either. Defineately the hottest of the lot cos i stayed for another hour waiting for her to come back with them pimps acting as look out, whilst checking out the other chicas on offer. She didn't return and the rest looked like dogs by comparison. Will ask the next time i drop by, pissing with rain tonight. It's on my way home but not my home, yet.

She's the Chinese looking one!

Shit1697

05-07-08, 10:58

I will be coming to Shenzhen in June staying at the Shangrala just outside the Lo Wu station.

What are the recommendations in the area for someone to bring back to the hotel room for a LT and the likely cost.

If anyone has any relable mamasans etc please share.

Thanks,

Wizard561Sorry, my English is very limited, hope you can understand what I wrote. There are some girls near the Shangrala, they ask for RMB600 for one night, they are around 18 to 23 years old, however, if you don't speak Chinese, it is difficult for you to commuicate with their mama.

Old Mean Dog

05-08-08, 05:28

I will be coming to Shenzhen in June staying at the Shangrala just outside the Lo Wu station.

What are the recommendations in the area for someone to bring back to the hotel room for a LT and the likely cost.

If anyone has any relable mamasans etc please share.

Thanks,

Wizard561

Please refresh our memories again why we must help you? You don't know how to scroll down, do a search, have ADD, or just can't be bothered to RTFF?

-CPE

Old Mean Dog

05-08-08, 05:31

Sorry, my English is very limited, hope u can understand what I wrote. There are some girls near the Shangrala, they ask for RMB600 for one night, they are around 16 to 23 years old, however, if you don't speak Chinese, it is difficult for you to commuicate with their mama.

600 RMB for LT is a ripoff and the girls are normally, just common at best in that area.

-CPE

SE Asia Joe

05-08-08, 05:58

Please refresh our memories again why we must help you? You don't know how to scroll down, do a search, have ADD, or just can't be bothered to RTFF?

-CPE

Why should HE RTFF??? After all, just the day before he wrote in the Philippines board:
///
""AV, sorry if my question is a bit too general, as...

AV, sorry if my question is a bit too general, as it is my first trip to manila and most of my expirience comes from China/HK where there are no BF etc. maybe my question is a bit naive. Your sarcasm is apreciated. ;)
///////

Leave him alone CPE!!! Orrrr...errrr... perhaps we all could....

SEAJ

Wizard561

05-09-08, 02:14

Please refresh our memories again why we must help you? You don't know how to scroll down, do a search, have ADD, or just can't be bothered to RTFF?

-CPEFirst you dont have to help me, but some others have, and thank you to them.

Mind you in the effort it has taken you to write your sarcastic reply you could of either not bothered or wrote something useful?

Ohh and I did read the thread, and the reason I asked is because I dont understand the regions of Shenzhen so I have no idea how far some of the places mentioned are from where I will be staying.

Again thanks for the help from people that did.

Wizard

OldAsiaHand

05-09-08, 03:42

I will be coming to Shenzhen in June staying at the Shangrala just outside the Lo Wu station.

What are the recommendations in the area for someone to bring back to the hotel room for a LT and the likely cost.

If anyone has any relable mamasans etc please share.

Thanks,

Wizard561

Wizard561,

You must be a high-powered executive used to other people waiting on your every whim. I reckon there are 100s of posts on this thread about the area you mention. I second the motion. RTFF.

Just my POV.

OAH

OldAsiaHand

05-09-08, 03:46

She's the Chinese looking one!

Bob Builder,

Another priceless contribution to the board!

OAH

Old Mean Dog

05-09-08, 06:22

First you dont have to help me, but some others have, and thank you to them.

Mind you in the effort it has taken you to write your sarcastic reply you could of either not bothered or wrote something useful?

Ohh and I did read the thread, and the reason I asked is because I dont understand the regions of Shenzhen so I have no idea how far some of the places mentioned are from where I will be staying.

Again thanks for the help from people that did.

Wizard

People have written numerous reports about the Shangri-La area, the Pink Apartments, Seibu, Concubine Village, Saunas, KTV's and SW's most all within 15 minutes walk from you.

They did this to help others, like yourself, find the best possible places at the current rates. Why should we rewrite reports for your benefit, when all you have to do is RTFF and do some homework?

We don't get paid to do this, so don't be so lazy. Also, the time it took me to write a sarcastic remark could have been time saved, if you had not written your initial post in the first place.

Good luck,

-CPE

Sukhumvitter

05-09-08, 07:43

Its called Xin Gan Jue and on the gong ye ba lu. Sorry, dont have the number. If you are coming from Shekou then take a left on the manjiafu signal; to enter the gong ye ba lu and drive straight for say a 100 meters or so (not too sure) on this location will be on your left side. Taxi drivers would not miss it!

Hello all,

I am looking for the place described above. I know Gong Ye Ba Lu in Shekou (the road just south of Garden City Center/Walmart and the Decathlon sporting goods store), but I don't know what is the ManJiaFu signal. Can anyone enlighten me?

I have been all up and down Gong Ye Ba Lu but have not seen this place. Is it East of HouHai Blvd?

Thanks

Sukhumvitter

05-09-08, 08:19

I'm just back from two weeks of meetings in America (and my jetlag is killing me), so today I visited the "Good Friends" (Hao Pong You) Sauna in Nanshan. This one is located on the west side of HoHai Blvd, on the way to Shekou. Another way to describe it is the eastern most North/South road which runs parallel to Nanhai Blvd (where the Nanshan Walmart is located).

Hey Furias,

What's the cross street for the Hao PongYou Sauna on HouHai blvd?

Thanks buddy!

China Maverick

05-09-08, 09:18

Suggest dont use Xin Gan Jue now as I heard that their licence has been revoked; however they still operate illegally so there could be LE raids!

Instead try the Dongdi hao Leisure center which is on the Chaung Ye Lu. If you need detailed directions then call them on 86211081/86211069. The rooms are clean, the service is good and girls are service driven. Try a girl called Yao Lan; she is from Wuhan and has a good fekin rack. Dont recollect her number.

300 for the girl and I guess 198 for the room.

Enjoy,

CM

Qiao Han

05-09-08, 16:33

Hey Furias,
What's the cross street for the Hao PongYou Sauna on HouHai blvd?
Thanks buddy!Don't know name of cross street but it's across the street from a Renrenle supermarket and a KFC. All lit up at night, can't miss it.

QH

Furias

05-10-08, 09:29

Hey Furias,

What's the cross street for the Hao PongYou Sauna on HouHai blvd?

Thanks buddy!

As Qiao Han pointed out I have no idea what the cross street is, but HaoPengYou is very easy to find on Nanhai Blvd. It's just west of Coastal City, on the west side of Nanhai. There is a Honda dealership one block north across the street.

I was there the other day for a little R&R. Nice little girl from Hubei. 2 hours FS with a great massage and great GFE (no rushing about) for 300RMB. The room rates varies, but you'll get a discount with a VIP card (usually around 88 RMB...more for a VIP room with shower). I usually just shower in the men's sauna then go up to the third floor.

FYI, this place is very western friendly but you may struggle to get exactly what you want if you don't speak any Mandarin. Don't expect line ups, but if you can tell the manager what you want he will bring her to you. If your Mandarin is limited to "wo yao" and "wo bu yao" then just use the magic words "Sauna" and "Mei Nu" and you'll get what you want.

Qiao Han

05-10-08, 17:30

Don't know name of cross street...QHThe cross street is Longsheng Lu

LoveAsia

05-10-08, 21:50

For those looking for a PinYin sign that says HaoPengYou, forget it. The English name on the sauna is Good Friends, not HaoPengYou. I checked this place out several years ago and knew they gave GFE massage with happy ending. Price for HJ is the typical 100rmb. They offer FS for 300RMB to Chinese and 400RMB to foreigners but you can negoatiate this down to 300.

The selection is good but they do not bring girls to you in groups. If they send one in that you do not want just tell the girl who came in that you want a new girl (tell her in Chinese, of course).

I took a drive by tonight and noticed a bbs just around the corner. If you walk out of Good Friends, make an immediate left down the side street you will find the bbs half way down the street.

I was in Xili today chcking out the new B&Q, Sundan, Metro and Ikea. Seems like there should be some sauna action nearby but I did not have a chance to drive around. Any reports on Xili?

LA

Batman8362

05-11-08, 07:51

Thanks to Furias for the great info on HaoPengYou. I was there a few weeks ago and had a good massage and FS for 300RMB + room fee (108RMB, if I recall). It was a good experience, except that I speak zero Chinese, so it took awhile to communicate what I wanted, but then it all worked out well. Definetly will repeat if I'm in the area again.

I also checked out the Hiawan hotel near Shekou. (see previous reports on it) The rooms have showers and the girl was pretty cute, but the service was disappointing. Just a quick massage, brief CBJ and FS for 588RMB. I don't have the langauge skills to explain that I thought more was on the menu for that price. Anyways it was a bit disappointing.

Also, I tried the "24 hour massage place behind Beatles and McDonalds" near Seaworld, that has been mentioned on the forum. I think the price was 208RMB for 90min massage. The room has a shower in it and a nice big bed. I had a great massage and then the cute girl finished with a HJ without even asking for cash. I gave her a 50RMB tip and she was happy.

Gunner6

05-12-08, 12:46

I reported on this guy and his business cards in January, I think. Nobody knows what the feck you get if you call him. My take on it, is that he's a reugular pimp, and that he just looked at some English language porm sites and wrote down a bunch of words at random... rather like the menu at the Hunan restaurant in Prince Square, with those dishes like "The Agricultural Wife fries the Black Cow Shreds..."Actually tried this guy, or was it one of the other ones handing out cards around Seaworld, and ended up very happy!

Called him up after work and agreed on the price on the phone. Said I wanted a pretty non-shy girl. Came to my house 30 mins later and she was great! Nice above average size tits and no chasing rubber before the actual entering. Asked her if she did AF and she did! Finished without rubber over her chest.

My first post here so please correct me if somethings written wrong here!

Iluvchik

05-13-08, 17:29

There is an earthquake in Sichuan yesterday. More than 12,000 died already. Tens of thousands are still missing. This is a great tragedy. Pray for those still buried / missing.

Rockabilly77

05-14-08, 03:16

Please refresh our memories again why we must help you? You don't know how to scroll down, do a search, have ADD, or just can't be bothered to RTFF?

-CPEFor the time it takes you type the words that point how stupid people are, you could simply help them out!

I'm not trying to be a dink but it seems to me that the people in the China section are alot less helpful and less unforgiving then others.

I spend my time mainly in Thailand and that board is full of infromation and/or people that are willing to help out fellow mongers.

Isn't that what this forum is all about?

I started doing business in China now, and spent my first 10days there in March, prior to going I went thru these boards and found more and more posts from people blasting newbies. WTF is the deal? Arent we all here to learn from each other and share stories and advice. This board seems to be a old boys club or something.

As newbie to China its rather intimidating to even post on this board. Allwell I really don't care what you think!

Now for my question!

Last time I w as in this area I stayed at the panglan hotel, it was great! But now I am taking along with me 2 of my employees and I don't feel like paying for them to stay in that high of digs. So can anyone recomend a decent hotel for a better price then the panglan?

Sorry if this came across wrong to you guys, I just get frustrated sometimes when I spend hours searching all the boards educating myself in areas I travel and then when I do have a questions I get the feeling I'll be blasted and told to read instead of receiving a incitfull responce.

For those of you that want to blast this post, go hard fellas. I also spell terrible so you have plenty of ammo.

SE Asia Joe

05-14-08, 08:09

For the time it takes you type the words that point how stupid people are, you could simply help them out!

I'm not trying to be a dink but it seems to me that the people in the China section are alot less helpful and less unforgiving then others.

I spend my time mainly in Thailand and that board is full of infromation and/or people that are willing to help out fellow mongers.

Isn't that what this forum is all about?

I started doing business in China now, and spent my first 10days there in March, prior to going I went thru these boards and found more and more posts from people blasting newbies. WTF is the deal? Arent we all here to learn from each other and share stories and advice. This board seems to be a old boys club or something.

As newbie to China its rather intimidating to even post on this board. Allwell I really don't care what you think!

Now for my question!

Last time I w as in this area I stayed at the panglan hotel, it was great! But now I am taking along with me 2 of my employees and I don't feel like paying for them to stay in that high of digs. So can anyone recomend a decent hotel for a better price then the panglan?

Sorry if this came across wrong to you guys, I just get frustrated sometimes when I spend hours searching all the boards educating myself in areas I travel and then when I do have a questions I get the feeling I'll be blasted and told to read instead of receiving a incitfull responce.

For those of you that want to blast this post, go hard fellas. I also spell terrible so you have plenty of ammo.
For one who've only written 25 posts in four whole years - posts mainly consisting of "Where" "How" and "Thank you for your info" - you certainly have got a lot to complain about.
Hmmmm.... especially since you're not even the guy who was refered to in the first place!!

SEAJ

Hainanien

05-14-08, 09:52

Old Mean Dog

05-14-08, 13:01

I went thru these boards and found more and more posts from people blasting newbies. WTF is the deal? Arent we all here to learn from each other and share stories and advice. This board seems to be a old boys club or something.

As newbie to China its rather intimidating to even post on this board. >>>>>>>>>>

not that it matters what I think...
I'll agree with these statments about a couple of the southern China boards.

look back, more than a few pages 3/4s full of mostly the same guys BSing with each other, snide remarks or down talking the few new guys brave enough to ask apearent studip questions.

Gotsta read a lot of crap to find good info...

If you RTFF and do your homework, you will find a wealth of good information here. There is even a search button at the top of the page for your consideration. What we "Old Boys" dislike is:

1. Someone too lazy to RTFF and do their homework
2. Beggars who give nothing back to the forum
3. Non-paying members who want free handouts
4. BSD's that come here and and overpay for everything

Also remember, that along with the Shanghai crew, those of us who live, work and contribute the most to this thread, are a very close group. We do luncheons, saunas and monger together.

If you have a question about something that has not been covered, you should not feel intimidated to post or PM. If you have something to contribute, then by all means do so.

Regards,
CPE

Foxlapan

05-14-08, 19:41

Was in Shenzhen Bao-an airport to meet up with some friends who are on a stopover visit before catching their flight the next day. They were booked into a new hotel, the Shenzhen YiFeng Business Hotel which is just outside the airport area and with full view of the airport runway from the rooms.

In the hotel, on the right of the main reception on the ground floor, is a sign board showing the services and price list with some overdressed hostess hanging around. It seems like the ground floor is just a greet and meet area where you make your choice and depending on what services are chosen, you will be taken to the first floor for foot massage or otherwise, to second or third floor. The rooms in the second and third floors are hotel rooms but without windows. After waiting for a few minutes, a girl will come in and ask if you would select her or another girl would then come and the whole process repeated. As I had asked for massage, the girls all look the same around 5 and the most 6. 5, so I just agreed to the next girl that came around. Then she stayed and immediately ask me to go for the shower. She joined in and put on the soap to clean my back only while leaving the front for diy. After finishing my shower, she continue to complete hers while I wait on the bed. On to the massage, she get to work all over on the back for well into an hour and with my very limited Chinese language that I had chosen the 198 package, it turned out to include body massage when she started undressing her top and taking off her bra. That is all that is included and any extra according to her would be extra cost too. She asked for 300 for the full service which would be the same as the full service package on offer in the price list. Having gone so far, it is hard in more sense than one, to resist otherwise but what followed was mechanical with a CBJ and finished off with missionary as she complained that she was tired any other way.

After that, she will not join me in the shower while she cleared up the room and waited for me to finish before getting into the shower. Paid 500rmb for her to settle the bill and while waiting for the lift, she came back with the 2rmb change.

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Steven Jones

05-14-08, 23:10

Ohhh lunch! I'm up for that next time I'm in SZ, know idea when though :( which is a shame.

As for the newbie situation, I was a newbie and asked a few questions when I first went to SZ. I got them answered, and have had questions answered since (I've also attempted to answer, but not been to hot with that!).

Maybe I was lucky, maybe I asked the right sort of question, or in the right tone, but people where helpful.

Yeah it can be hard at times digging through all these, maybe a FAQ would be cool, and then have this as a dicsussion style thread . . .but then you'd need at least two threads per city,and it might just get messy.

But put in a bit of effort, read stuff, ask questions about specific places and you might get a better response than.

I want sex, and now!

Rockabilly77

05-15-08, 01:06

For one who've only written 25 posts in four whole years - posts mainly consisting of "Where" "How" and "Thank you for your info" - you certainly have got a lot to complain about.

Hmmmm.... especially since you're not even the guy who was refered to in the first place!!

SEAJHmmm.

Perhaps I haven't posted much because in other sections of this forum the infromation is all there for me! If you read my posts I hardly think they are all where, hows and whats!

As for "you certianly have alot to complain about" I think I do. On other boards the info is there, and if someone asks a honest question in most cases its answered, unless its blaintly stupid it is answered. I don't have to post my insight in most cases because by the time I read a post (in most cases) someone or four have already jumped to it and posted a insightful answer.

Example: there is a SW in Pattaya named Na, every once in awhile someoNE will post pics of her and people go crazy askinG where to find her, people will answer and some will tell people to read back thru the pages. But in many cases people will post where she can be found and other info. Another month or 2 will go by without mention of Na and then someone will post another pic and again people will start asking the same questions that were asked prevously.

I guess my point is that if we say RTFF thats all the forum will become. In my opinion and perhaps its only mine, by constantly telling people to RTFF and not helping them out it is promoting a negative enviroment where people don't want to ask questions and don't want to participate. Isn't it better to either help people or not to repond at all? As apossed to filling a forum with RTFF, RTFF, RTFF? Maybe whats old news to some is new news to others and it may be greatly apreciated. We are mongering here! There is only so much we can talk about before history repeats itself.

Lastly. Your right I only have 25 posts, but big flippen deal. I've been on this site for longer then 4 years and have had other user names, I post when I have time and when I have something to say. So are we going to judge people on there amount of posts they have? Does having more or less posts make me more or less superior. If this is a competition of who has the biggest cock then I guess I'll start posting more so my opinions mean something!