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JackTheLad2

11-22-09, 12:44

Its 11.00pm and I make my way to Wanchai. The bars along the road are absolutely heaving. Did not even try to get into Amazonia as the rugby scrum outside was to big and heavy for me to break through. Joe Bananas (always busy) seemed bursting at the seams, as did all the nearby bars. Headed for Escape – half empty! A visit to Escape should be on everybody's list of "things to do" if only to hear the band - fantastic. Returned to Amazonia and found the entrance. Vicky, who I met a couple of nights earlier and whose number I had could not be found – I had arranged to meet her there. Feeling shit, decided I had to return to the hotel – and this was midnight on a Saturday! On my way exchanged a few sms with Nicky and arranged for her to come and nurse my fevered brow. She had been in Amazonia all the time – I just did not see her. Cut a long story short – she failed to trap, a sure sign another customer had stepped in. Not to worry.
Sunday pm arrives and I’m feeling better – and horny. Who shall I pick from the growing number of phone numbers I have collected since arrival? I am beginning to be unable to put faces to some of the numbers – worrying. Nicky takes my fancy over Jhovie and she turns up 1 hour after the agreed time – a flipper trait. She left payment amount up to me. I was not disappointed when the doorbell went. She is not the first to turn up immaculately dressed and turned out. A body to die for and hot in bed – a good laugh and a good kisser which always turns me on. She loved DATY although an unshaven bush is slightly off-putting. No hurrying or clock-watching. Cowboy is her strength. Does anyone have the answer to condoms slipping off when inside? Its embarrassing not to mention a cause for concern from a safety point of view.

Anyway I digress – and a good 1.5 hours are spent on the job. She would not tell me how much I owed her so, being a mean bastard I part with HK$700 which she seems happy with, but with a proviso I see her later tonight for a repeat performance. We shall see.

Interestingly, she tells me she shares a room with 8 others and pays HK$60 per night. Would you believe 5 share a king size bed – sleeping across it and there is a bed above her which sleeps 3. They start of as strangers to each other. There is another room similarly laid out as well as a communal sitting room which has also bunk type beds sleeping a total of 4. One bathroom between the 20 of them. She cannot wait to go home back to her family next week although she has no kids or husband. Who can blame her. Since arrival she has had 2 customers. I make no further comment and leave you to your own thoughts on the matter. I feel a bit of a bastard.

Tony Toro

11-22-09, 13:22

Does anyone have the answer to condoms slipping off when inside? Its embarrassing not to mention a cause for concern from a safety point of view.Buy them in HK. They are smaller so tighter and less likely to "slide off".

JackTheLad2

11-23-09, 01:36

Its Sunday night and I leave it until midnight before walking to Wanchai from the Charterhouse – a 7/8 minute stroll. Place looks pretty dead compared to last night.
First stop Escape – quiet. 2nd stop - HK’s fire death-trap called Traffic. My first time there –and my last. Fair selection of girls and they are like leeches as there are only a few of the opposite sex in attendance. The best would rate a 3 in my book. Springling of Africans, Cambodians and the usual flippers. Nothing to interest me and my phone contact list remains unaltered. 3rd stop Neptunes. Sometimes its hot, sometimes cold. It was only warm tonight and did not even stay for a drink. 4th stop Borocay – I have to ask why now that I think of it. It was fairly busy however and a previous aquaintance called RC spots me at the bar. She is wearing the shortest mini you can imagine – I have wider belts. She turns me on to be honest and I get a “raging” standing at the bar, I promise to phone her but there is something that tells me inside she might not be hot in bed. She continually removes my hand from her thigh when they “accidentally” touch her and when I ask why, she says “not in here”. I did have visions of her being a great grind but not tonight. I asked the cost and got the usual "its up to you" reply. I respond by saying 200 for a joke. She immediately replies that is fine - if its US$ or Euros so she has a sense of humour - and the ability to very quicky do the currency exchange mathematics.
Onto Amazonia to meet Vicky (this afternoon’s entertainment) as promised, and where she is, according to an sms about 15 minutes earlier. Cant find her and her phone is off – same story as last night I feel. Plenty others there, however, but nobody catches my eye. Back to Escape – busier than before and many to select from. Tempted by one or two but it is still early – about 2.30am. Vicky texts me – she is (back) in Amazonia maybe. (I calculate that she could have fitted in a ST at one of the local hotels). I don’t respond but make my way to Galaxy where I know Miss “M” will be, as I now have a requirement for GFE following on being not too well. Surprisingly the place is busy and I am welcomed by all like a long lost friend, including the bar manager who immediately puts up a beer. I spend some time with Miss “M”, buying her a few drinks from which I know she will profit, and leave at 3.00am. Vicky's sms about my present location goes unanswered. The GFE experience was given in spades and she has just left me at 8.30am on Monday. I reward her although I know it was a freebie. At the end of the day she is a WG and Vicky’s story (see previous report) about living conditions is still on my mind. I might be feeling a bit better but I well and truly f….d if you get my meaning.

If you need a rest from mongering, then Sunday night is the time to have it. There is always Victoria Park and Laguna if you need action in the aftermnoon. Galaxy is packed to the ceiling as well in the afternoon with Indos.

FreebieFan

11-23-09, 05:38

If you need a rest from mongering, then Sunday night is the time to have it. There is always Victoria Park and Laguna if you need action in the aftermnoon. Galaxy is packed to the ceiling as well in the afternoon with Indos.From my last trip, Galaxy was primarily Indonesian lesbians or wannabe lesbians. Not many guys there and didn't look like guys were particularlly welcome. Lucky I had me an Indonesian wannaB. She wanted to watch but not do anything. Except me later. LOL

Basah

11-23-09, 11:42

If you need a rest from mongering, then Sunday night is the time to have it. There is always Victoria Park and Laguna if you need action in the aftermnoon. Galaxy is packed to the ceiling as well in the afternoon with Indos.

Shame you weren't out earlier Sunday night, like upwards of 8 or 9. Makati and Laguna are heaving up until those times. Then you can have your quiet time afterwards ... with company.

JackTheLad2

11-23-09, 16:45

From my last trip, Galaxy was primarily Indonesian lesbians or wannabe lesbians. Not many guys there and didn't look like guys were particularlly welcome. Lucky I had me an Indonesian wannaB. She wanted to watch but not do anything. Except me later. LOL

I have been in Galaxy on a Sunday afternoon before now - hundreds of Indos packed into the place dancing away and enjoying themselves - handing over their admission tickets for a drink at the bar. None were above a 1/2 IMHO but it might be unfair to put them all in the lesbian class. Each to his own. Not my scene but I did not feel unwelcome.

No reports today - the sloth of a week has finally caught up with me - but the phone is still ringing!
Im recuperating.

Steve 99

11-24-09, 14:23

. I asked the cost and got the usual "its up to you" reply. I respond by saying 200 for a joke. She immediately replies that is fine - if its US$ or Euros so she has a sense of humour - and the ability to very quicky do the currency exchange mathematics.Jack:

Is there a ballpark what they are asking and accept for LT - ST? Any general guidelines for freelance prices right at this time in Wanchai? I will be there in a couple weeks and still am confused on pricing based on old posts.

JackTheLad2

11-25-09, 00:28

Jack:
Is there a ballpark what they are asking and accept for LT - ST? Any general guidelines for freelance prices right at this time in Wanchai? I will be there in a couple weeks and still am confused on pricing based on old posts.

I'm confused as well to be honest. I have formed some quite good relationships with many girls over the years and have been privy to their thought process - that is if you think they have the ability to think, but they are not daft either when it comes to working out their hourly rate. I am now finding it difficult to get even ST for less than $HK1000. In the past, you could get ST for HK$700/800. LT would be HK$1500. Obviously there are differences and you can get lower prices but I know girls who are so desperately in need of money you would think they will take any offer - but they won't. I look, on and off, for a bit of afternoon relaxation, say for an hour. Offering HK$500/600 is often met with derision and thats from girls I know. The chances of LT for HK$1000 is better nearer the end of the night when the bars are thinning out but again, there is no guarantee. By this time of course, you could have spent a fortune on drink so the overall cost evens out.

I prefer flippers gererally but from what I read and hear, other Nationalities are even more set in their ways as regards pricing - try getting a good rate from African or Viets! I have never paid more that HK$1000 for LT. Once you have developed a relationship with a girl that you might want to see again, you will probably get this price. A colleague of mine has a system whereby he takes the girl for 2 days, then takes a day off. He pays HK$2500 for 48 hours company and basically lives in his room for the duration. He never fails to get this arrangment.
I have also found out that what was originally an agreement for ST can turn into LT for the same price if you treat the girl well and give her a bit of respect and maybe promise to see her again.
Other fellow mongerers might have different views

Chemist Dude

11-25-09, 04:24

In Wanchai, you'll want to go to Bridge which is on Lockhart Road past Mes Amis. Things get going there around 5:00/5:30 and the place gets wild.

There are two short time hotels down the street from Bridge, Ming Court and Villa Victoria ~ about a three and five minute walk, same side of the street, walking towards the overpass (i.e. head left out of Bridge).

Mongkok you'd get a bunch of yellow sign places still open at that time - I like the one that's up by the Metropark Hotel by the Prince Edward MTR station, but there are lots around. About $380 for 45 minutes.Basah,

Thanks for the info. I'll let you know how it goes when I get there in a couple weeks.

JackTheLad2

11-25-09, 12:38

I'm still under the weather but feel I have to go out. Escape is half empty and there is nothing in it that is appealing. Jhove texts me and tells me she is in Amazonia and I arrange to go round there. I meet her outside - she was making a call and you certainly can't do that inside Amazonia. I could not be bothered going in myself but I knew Jhove was keen to see me (or rather my wallet). I said I would walk back to the hotel and she should come in 10 minutes. She agrees. and the cost is very quickly agreed for a mixture of ST/LT. The reason I did not want to take her to the hotel myself was that I knew the hotel lobby would be busy with some of my colleagues in attendance and what they don't know does not harm them. It was still fairly early. Sure enough she is at my door only a minute or so after I arrived. Its a bit ironic that she tells me she says "hi" to a few of them as she had seen them earlier in the week in the bars.
We shower and, boy, does she know how to make sure I am clean. I'm still sore. The rest was a bit of a let down but it was my fault, not hers. I just was not up to it. She is a real pro and I found out she is 38 years of age, but she does not look it. Some punters like to bang away with a 21/22 year old but I don't mind the "older" women - they generally know what they are doing. (My own daughter is older). When she undresses you can tell the freshness of youth has left her. She loved her nipples being sucked and certainly was into DATY in a big way. I had to stop for fear of those through the wall complaining about the noise. We tried mish, cowboy etc but I have to admit I failed miserably. I gave her HK$1000 which was agreed and when I let her know she could go, she offered to see me one pm when I am better for HK$500. I will take her up on this. You can find her in Amazonia most nights. WIR - certainly. Very much into GFE and good company as well.

Member #4271

11-25-09, 12:56

I am budgeting about $250 US per day for my 3 week stay in HK.

This time, I plan on not hitting the bars until after midnight and will clearly be looking for LT not ST.

Based on my limited adventures there in the summer, I think LT makes the girls feel more secure. And when I saw my repeat girl the 2nd time in the club, she didn't mention money (though I gave her some at the end of the 2 days she was with me).

My general sense is that a lot of the girls in Wanchai. At least the Filipinos. Are either about the LT/GFE or the selling of drinks in the bar. I just don't get the sense of their temperments being suited to finding a lot of ST business over and over.

They are certainly not dressed like SW so it's hard to imagine them surviving on ST only.

Joe Banana

11-26-09, 05:26

Jeez wayof, there is a much better place only 1.5hrs south of HK to spend $250 a day! Why buy an expensive import?
Regards pricing never pay more than $1000 LT two shots, can get for $600. ST $500 and difficult to get less but $400 possible, try and pack in two shots there too. Talking about flippers of course. If first one won't bargain then there are plenty more where she came from.

Yellow Fever #2

11-26-09, 08:01

Why are you budgeting so much? US250/day is too much in Hong Kong, unless this also includes your hotel, meals, transportation etc.

Typical price is HKD1000 for LT/GFE, which you should be able to get for considerably less, even HKD500 LT is easily possible. In many cases, the girls can even go for free*.

Girls will ask for 2000HKD or even more, but they expect you to negotiate with them. If you accept what they ask for without bargaining, they will take you for a fool.

It is a buyers market. Take advantage of it and enjoy your time.

Don't be a BSD.

I believe Lao Tzu would disapprove of your ways.

Yellow Fever

I am budgeting about $250 US per day for my 3 week stay in HK.

This time, I plan on not hitting the bars until after midnight and will clearly be looking for LT not ST.

Based on my limited adventures there in the summer, I think LT makes the girls feel more secure. And when I saw my repeat girl the 2nd time in the club, she didn't mention money (though I gave her some at the end of the 2 days she was with me).

My general sense is that a lot of the girls in Wanchai. At least the Filipinos. Are either about the LT/GFE or the selling of drinks in the bar. I just don't get the sense of their temperments being suited to finding a lot of ST business over and over.

They are certainly not dressed like SW so it's hard to imagine them surviving on ST only.

Brown Rail

11-26-09, 18:23

Hi guys. I am passing through Hong Kong in a couple weeks. I previuosly had a 22 hour layover (two years ago)and got a room at the Empire and had great time at Neptunes and enjoyed the little Philipino girl I met there. Thanks for all the tips. This trip however; I only have an 8 1/2 hour layover and its from 5:30am until 2:00pm. So not much time and some pretty lousy hours. Is there any action going on around the 7:00am to 11:30am time frame? Are the bars open at this time? Is there a reasonable hotel thats worth getting a room for only about 4 hours in the Wan Chi area, ecspecially at this time of day? What do you all recommend?

The Chemist DudeThere is still lots to do and short time hotels.

The issue will be getting from/to the airport. Assuming your flight is on time you will exit the airport at 6:00-6:30. I think the trains start about 06:00. Assuming you miss the first train, you will be in Hong Kong Station by 7am. A taxi or MTR to Wanchai by 7:15.

It depends on which day of the week but most of the bars are closing by then. You can check out Laguna, Neptune, Galaxy. These places say they are open till the wee hours. On a Saturday morning that is probably true. But Bridge is quite reliable. It closes its windows about 5am for disco, and runs till 9 or 10. You can reliably find a girl there, but pick your girl by about 8:00 or they start to go home and you may be left with little choice.

There are three nearby short time hotels, all down Lockhart Road towards Causeway Bay: Ming Court, Beverly, Victora. They will all be happy to rent 1-3 hours.

You need to be back at the Airport express stop no later than noon. If you stay in Ming Court, the MTR is accross the street, you are 10 minutes from HK Station.

JackTheLad2

11-26-09, 23:53

Wednesday was a day to mainly forget – feeling rough. Visited the usual watering holes around 12 midnight – 2.00am but found them strangely quiet, although the streets seemed busy. I'm sure there were no more than a dozen in Galaxy when I looked in (and quicky left). I would wager this place will close eventually. I got the impression guys in suits were out mainly for the beer, standing in the pavements outside the bars not really known as being pick-up places. Only my opinion. Neptunes seems to be attracting more pushy Africans these days if that’s your scene. You could eat your dinner of the arse of some of them. Retire early.

Thursday dawns and, feeling a bit better, but lazy, I call Miss M from Galaxy for room service in the afternoon. She did not disappoint and I part with HK$1000 in exchange for her looking after me for several hours. To be honest, I let her do most of the work. She can be found any night sitting at the bar in Galaxy. You will recognise her from her captivating smile but she is 35years now and with it, comes experience.
Jhovie is on her way to Macau to renew her visa (she hopes) and will be back later in the day (she hopes). Wish she had not phoned in the middle of a BBBJ with Miss M.
Nicky texts asking why I have not been around – maybe tomorrow.

Globe Spinner

11-27-09, 15:49

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I am budgeting about $250 US per day for my 3 week stay in HK.

This time, I plan on not hitting the bars until after midnight and will clearly be looking for LT not ST.

Hit the bars at midnight, but don't make a deal until 2. Enjoy the ambiance of Wanchai. You'll stay at half your budget, unless of course you want a 3-way, in which case, you'll still be under budget. Cheers.

JohnThomas0519

11-28-09, 02:08

Called for one of the Japanese hotel reservation girls at 4 PM one day last week. Appears the Regal hotel in TST is where some of them are stationed. Told the lady on the phone I would be interested in meeting a couple of hours later. Business meeting lasted longer than expected. Suddenly at 730 PM a male pimp rang up and wanted to know if I was still going to meet. This is the first time that I've contacted in this manner. Have any of the bros met with the same experience. Given the economy in HK is back to normal, surprised by the proactive behavior.

JackTheLad2

11-28-09, 03:29

Feeling slightly better I venture out to Wanchai just after midnight. Escape is the first stop but it is not busy and there is plenty room to move about. Immediately accosted by Huong from Vietnam who has just arrived off the boat today and latches on like a leach. Right to the point, she offers her services for HK$2000, which promptly falls to HK$1000 when she senses my rejection. Very attractive but I’m not really interested - she puts her number into my phone – 61421834 if you are interested. I make my way to Neptunes – its heaving and I spot potential sitting at the bar but try as I may, I can’t get the vibes from her. Jhovie texts me – she has returned from Macau but has been refused entry and sent back to Macau. She has no money. Can I help? She paid a lawyer guy HK$2200 to guarantee her to Macau and back so it did not work. Pity as I have been promised a freebie. It may seem hard but its not my problem although I feel sorry for her. All her belongings are in HK. I know of plenty of girls where this has happened before. It’s a hard life. Miss M from Galaxy also texts me to say she has heard of Jhovie’s plight.
Make my way to a packed Amazonia and meet Nicky who has a new flipper friend with her. Well, if you shared a bed with 5 others you would soon make friends (or enemies). She is Michelle and she is raring to go – Nicky says she is a bit drunk but her gyrations in a tight fitting mini are turning me on and, despite the close presence of Nicky, she is all over me. She is steering my hands, which she will not let go and holds all the time as if in need of reassurance, to places no man has been before - or have they? If she carries on like that in bed she will be a great ride. Nicky offers a twosome for HK$1400 LT. I am tempted but not up for it. When Michelle disappears to the toilet Nicky and I depart. Its amazing how much better second time round is and we share a blissful night. I could get to like her. HK$1000 was gratefully received. Like she is, I am totally fucked and at 8.00am need my sleep. Miss M texts me – where am I she asks. In heaven.

Whomer

11-28-09, 13:01

Feeling slightly better I venture out to Wanchai just after midnight. Escape ......... In heaven.

Jack, you are really Django. Always on the ride, pulling a casket behind you....
What do the people in HK think about you? Hope you are fine now.

Only some words reg. room service:
I stay this time in the Grand Hyatt. Really great hotel, almost forget how good this location is. During the last years I stood at the Langham Place. But GH is in the center of Wanchai, very convinient.

The hotel bar is always a place to meet bar girls. Also this time there were every evening 5-6 stunning and classy maids.

And this hotel is really girl friendly. When I asked the concierge for some support to find company, he explained immediately how to find Neptunes (nice to get it explained again...) and the other bars. And offered to bring my "girl friend2 to the elevator if she needs a key to use the elevator.

I used this offer once, it works perfect. I met before a nice girl in Macau, we agreed to meet in HK, she came the day after, 2 hrs earlier than planed, the concierge sent her to 30th floor and called me that she is on the way.
Perfect service!

JackTheLad2

11-29-09, 08:45

I make my way for the last time to Wanchai midnight Saturday. The streets are a heaving mass of people with the sports bars doing a roaring trade because of the live football and rugby. There was no scrum in Galaxy as I said my goodbyes to Miss M who yet again delivered all that was asked of her – and more. I make my way to Amazonia to meet Nicky – she is not there but Michelle is and she can’t remember anything about last night, not even me I fear. Nicky appears, looking quite ravenous in a mid-thigh long dress and after a few drinks we depart for one last shot. She did not disappoint. Another shot in the morning after a couple of hours sleep was not so good – she is obviously not a morning person. Or maybe I should have wakened her up properly first of all. I part with HKS1000 only to be asked for an extra HK$500 for her flight ticket as she has to return to the Philippines on Monday. I lie and say I have run out of the readies as I am not a registered charity yet. She was OK about that and we exchange email addresses with a promise to meet again next February when I return. We shall see.

Overall impressions? The standard has dropped over the years I have to say. Plenty Viets, Africans and Cambodians around now but, for me, you can’t beat a flipper for GFE. Escape has not yet reached the heights of the old Fenwicks. Neptunes is just the same. The girls are a lot more pushy – and many now advertise their chosen profession by the way they dress. It was not always like that. Bit embarrassing in the hotel lobby for the walk of shame IMHO. Galaxy is dead. Borocay is just surviving and Traffic a no-no. The non-girlie bars as I call them like Joe Bananas, Mes Amis, Dusk till Dawn and the likes seem to be doing well. I don’t venture into many others so I can’t comment.
Can’t wait until I return.

Member #4271

11-29-09, 18:34

I make my way for the last time to Wanchai midnight Saturday.Thanks for all the reports. I can't wait to get there in about 3 weeks. I find myself attracted to the Fils for the GFE experience too. The ones that dress normal in public but are wild behind closed doors.

And it sounds like Escape is not up to a Neptune's level yet?

JackTheLad2

11-30-09, 14:36

thanks for all the reports. i can't wait to get there in about 3 weeks. i find myself attracted to the fils for the gfe experience too. the ones that dress normal in public but are wild behind closed doors.
and it sounds like escape is not up to a neptune's level yet?
i would not say that entirely. like all places, it is packed one minute and busy the next. you will not fail in escape, nor will you in neptunes either. good hunting. i agree about the flippers - more gfe - the problem is don't get too emotionally involved with them. i did and its hard to get out unrep001hed. try amazonia as well - i found it a good hunting ground and it is not as big as the others. the girls mainly stand at the bar near the toilets.
after 15 hours flying i am back home - missing the idea of going out tonight!

Tiki Tour

11-30-09, 15:16

On the way back through HK to NZ I was fortunate to have a few hours to spare.

So straight to 37 Dundas Street, taken to the small waiting room and I asked never mind the line up just bring me Shelly if she is working.

5 mins later she was sitting beside me rubbing the old fella while I paid the 500 HK for 50 mins and the room up stairs.

I asked for a good room with a shower not over the bath, no problem.

This was my second time with Shelly. I love her cute face and great boobs.
She is short and bit thick around the middle but not fat if you know what I mean.

Guys she is a little pocket rocket. Our shower together was great with the customary BBBJ. Then I sat in the bed whilst she dried. Straight over, on her knees and she gave another awsome BBBJ, she swallowed all of me (and I am not small) and at the same time licked my balls!

I had to stop her to save for the main course. After some DATY I was staright into Mish and could hold back no longer. I swear she was having as much fun as I was.

Then a simple 5 min cuddle to rest. Reluctantly I head for the shower but no, another BBBJ.

Just as well I do not live in HK :) I would be broke by now with her great GFE.

TT

Member #4271

12-01-09, 14:06

i would not say that entirely. like all places, it is packed one minute and busy the next. you will not fail in escape, nor will you in neptunes either. good hunting. i agree about the flippers. more gfe. the problem is don't get too emotionally involved with them. i did and its hard to get out unrep001hed.i made the mistake of giving my e-mail to the girl i stayed with 3 nights in august. she's only e-mailed 2 times since then. and i can dictate the terms via e-mail.

but what do i do if i see her in neptune's every night that i go there? how do i politely decline? i don't think she wants a husband or bf but i am sure if she saw me again, she'd look up at me with the same puppy dog eyes and ask to come back to my hotel until i kicked her out.

JackTheLad2

12-02-09, 18:23

I made the mistake of giving my e-mail to the girl I stayed with 3 nights in August. She's only e-mailed 2 times since then. And I can dictate the terms via e-mail.
But what do I do if I see her in Neptune's every night that I go there? How do I politely decline? I don't think she wants a husband or bf but I am sure if she saw me again, she'd look up at me with the same puppy dog eyes and ask to come back to my hotel until I kicked her out.

I know its hard, but remember this is a business transaction - nothing else. I've been caught a couple of times in exactly the same circumstances. Play it a bit by ear. Be friendly - even buy her a drink - but make it clear you have arranged to meet someone else that night or want to meet some one else. She might not be over the moon about it, but thats life. It also keeps your options open for later in case you change your mind. If you feel that bad - try Escape or any other place.
The fact that she has only emailed you twice in nearly 5 months would seem to me that she is not that interested in keeping in touch. My flipper emailed me every day for 18 months!!

FreebieFan

12-03-09, 03:48

The fact that she has only emailed you twice in nearly 5 months would seem to me that she is not that interested in keeping in touch. My flipper emailed me every day for 18 months!!Maybe me being picky... but why not call them a Filipina as opposed to a flipper.

Filipina, Pinay etc all works and al shows appropriate level of respect. Yeah we all screw them, and enjoy it too, but no need to denigrate their nationality too.

JackTheLad2

12-04-09, 19:55

Maybe me being picky... but why not call them a Filipina as opposed to a flipper.
Filipina, Pinay etc all works and al shows appropriate level of respect. Yeah we all screw them, and enjoy it too, but no need to denigrate their nationality too.

Yeah - I think you are being picky - just as you appear to be to some of the punters in the KL forum as well. However I did not wish to denigrate the Nationality - I was not aware this title could cause offence - it has been used regularly in previous reports without comment. You learn something every day.

Joe Banana

12-05-09, 03:46

FFS can we not just let ISG be one place where we don't have to be PC!
Flipper, Flip Flop, Filipina, who cares?
Next someone will suggest that it is not right to pay for sex and that we shouldn't be discussing it.

Bob Builder

12-05-09, 03:58

AsnDragon

12-05-09, 04:04

Well I've had similar experiences with those operators recently. For one, I think the economy is pretty bad. secondly, most of these girls need to book their hours correctly so that the operators can maximize their profits from them. There are many flakers out there, so they probably just wanted to double check that you were keeping your appointment.

From the last few call ins, many of the girls said that business is not as good as it was 2 years back. But then again it depends on the girl that you call up too. The top japanese, korean and Russian and China girls are considered highly popular so they will always be booked. But for the regular girls, their business is hit a lot harder by this economic downturn.

The worst is when you call in a girl, and they end up pulling a bait and switch on you, giving you another girl and telling you that it's the girl you ordered, which is not true. I caught some of these operators doing that, and they admit that my preferred girl was busy and asked if I would settle for the new girl. Many times i declined, but sometimes I just take whatever they have. HK just takes too long to get girls- either hours at a filipino bar in wanchai, or calling operators for SW or visting those saunas that sometimes are busy on weekends is annoying. I guess beggars can't be choosers right?

AsnDragon

Called for one of the Japanese hotel reservation girls at 4 PM one day last week. Appears the Regal hotel in TST is where some of them are stationed. Told the lady on the phone I would be interested in meeting a couple of hours later. Business meeting lasted longer than expected. Suddenly at 730 PM a male pimp rang up and wanted to know if I was still going to meet. This is the first time that I've contacted in this manner. Have any of the bros met with the same experience. Given the economy in HK is back to normal, surprised by the proactive behavior.

Pita123

12-06-09, 11:07

Do you call them that to their face and do you call someone black a nigger?

Do Flipper, Pinay or Fillipina have the same connotation? Are any of them used to degrade them?

Apac Man

12-06-09, 15:53

Do Flipper, Pinay or Fillipina have the same connotation? Are any of them used to degrade them?

I've heard Philippine ladies refer to themselves as "Pinay" or "Fillipina", but never "Flipper".

According to Wikipedia:

Pinay (pronounced /ˈpiːnaɪ/) is a colloquial term for Filipina, the feminine form of Pinoy.

The Filipino people are the citizens of the Republic of the Philippines. The term is also often used to refer to a person having Filipino ancestry. Most Filipinos refer to themselves colloquially as "Pinoy" (feminine: "Pinay"), which is a slang word formed by taking the last four letters of "Pilipino" and adding the diminutive suffix "-y". The pre-1987 Philippine alphabet (Abakada)'s lack of the letter "F" had caused the letter "F" to be substituted with "P". This is the reason, when the 28-letter modern Filipino alphabet has been made official in 1987, the name Filipino was preferred over Pilipino.

With that said, we can safely assume that calling a lady from Philippines a "Flipper" is not a good idea. i.e. degrading!

Be safe,

APAC Man

Pita123

12-06-09, 17:32

Made the rounds in Wan Chai tonight (Sunday) starting around 11PM.

Galaxy - Pretty empty. About 30 girls and 7-10 guys. None of the girls anything to look at other than one slim chick singing in the band.

Laguna - male/female ratio was way to heavy on the males. I'm guessing something like 60/40.

Escape? (Former Fenwicks) - Entrance from the opposite end from before. Also pretty empty. Band was so-so. Guessing African American. Didn't have the energy of the band that was in Fenwicks 2 years or so ago when I was there last.

Neptune II - No band tonight. Not very full. Found a Viet girl with an amazing smile, great lips and wonderful attitude, until we got to the room.

At the bar we agreed to HK$1,000 for lots and lots of fun and her leaving at 6AM. We got to the room, in Kowloon. She wanted me to shower first. I suggested she shower first. Then before the shower she wanted money up front. I declined. I told her she needed to trust me and I had no plans to stiff her. She said she needed the money up front. I told her that if this was the case then she was free to leave. Then she started talking about how far we were from her room in Wan Chai. She asked for taxi money. I declined. As she was walking out the door I asked if she was sure that this is what she wanted to do. She said yes.

Now I'm considering whether to hit Harry's or just go to sleep.

EDIT: Harry's was nearly empty. Maybe 10 people in the whole joint. Met a cute African girl on her way out but she expected far too much.

Uncle Goober

12-07-09, 01:48

I've heard Philippine ladies refer to themselves as "Pinay" or "Fillipina", but never "Flipper".

Oh come on, guys. Let's keep it real.

Apac, no criticism man (I enjoy reading your posts), but if you have never heard a filipina referred to as a flipper you either haven't been in HK long enough or you just don't get out enough.

Personally I refer to them as filipinas. But I have heard them referred to as pinays, flippers, fillies and others. I haven't heard flipper used in a derogatory sense - at least not in the circles I move in.

I really do hope that misdirected political correctness doesn't turn this otherwise entertaining and informative section of the board into a Captain Save a Ho agony column.

Cheers.

Apac Man

12-07-09, 02:02

Kobe Beef

12-07-09, 03:05

SE Asia Joe

12-07-09, 03:22

Oh come on, guys. Let's keep it real.

Apac, no criticism man (I enjoy reading your posts), but if you have never heard a filipina referred to as a flipper you either haven't been in HK long enough or you just don't get out enough.

Personally I refer to them as filipinas. But I have heard them referred to as pinays, flippers, fillies and others. I haven't heard flipper used in a derogatory sense - at least not in the circles I move in.

I really do hope that misdirected political correctness doesn't turn this otherwise entertaining and informative section of the board into a Captain Save a Ho agony column.

Cheers.
If I may just add a bit on this - with appropriate apologies for perhaps belaboring the point.

I've lived in Hong Kong for over 50 years and I've heard just about all the derogatory and bigotted names being used for one and all nationalities - in both Chinese as well as English! And I do find it all distasteful personally.

Like Freebie Fan pointed out succinctly "...Yeah we all screw them, and enjoy it too, but no need to denigrate their nationality too...."

The Pinays are particularly hard hit as far as Bigotry is concerned as they've been at the lowest end of the Socio/economic strata as Domestic Helpers for over 30 years in Hong Kong and are the ones least able to defend themselves against ignorance.

I'm not particularly PC myself but I do find the use of racial/religious etc bigotry really takes away from the "attractiveness" and readibility of otherwise fine reports. I cannot see the NEED to use such derogatory terms unless there is other underlying anger or "concerns" by the writer himself.

Just my 2 cents

SEAJ

Ps. Pinoy = A Filipino (Guy), Pinay = A Filipina (Gal).
What do you cal a bunch of Filipinos???.......... Penises!!
Just a joke, Just a joke and I certainly hope nobody here thinks its a bigotted joke! (and I guess sort of to proof that I ain't all that PC myself!!)

JackTheLad2

12-07-09, 14:45

Oh come on, guys. Let's keep it real.
Apac, no criticism man (I enjoy reading your posts), but if you have never heard a filipina referred to as a flipper you either haven't been in HK long enough or you just don't get out enough.
I really do hope that misdirected political correctness doesn't turn this otherwise entertaining and informative section of the board into a Captain Save a Ho agony column.
Cheers.

Hi Guys - well it was me that sparked all this off in my reports. Sorry I raised a hornet's nest, but lets get back to reality. I apologise to those of us that are more sensitive than others. I certainly did not intend any offence to a race that I know is struggling badly to make ends meet because of a wide range of social factors and have to turn to the oldest profession in the world to try to eek out a living. Flipper is a term you won't find me using again. Lets now get on with the real purpose of the forum.

Kobe Beef

12-08-09, 02:34

I would just like to say, in all fairness and good humor, that the concern for political correctness on this forum is worthy of great satire. Where is Don Rickle's when we need him.

FreebieFan

12-08-09, 02:55

Hi Guys. Well it was me that sparked all this off in my reports. Sorry I raised a hornet's nest, but lets get back to reality. I apologise to those of us that are more sensitive than others. I certainly did not intend any offence to a race that I know is struggling badly to make ends meet because of a wide range of social factors and have to turn to the oldest profession in the world to try to eek out a living. Flipper is a term you won't find me using again. Lets now get on with the real purpose of the forum.Thanks for making that mental adjustment JtL

As for some of the pussies on the KL forum. Well lets just say that that particular forum lacks the zing and zest, and the " if you can't take it you shuldnt give it " repartee that other more interesting forums have.

Cunning Stunt

12-08-09, 06:29

Flipper is a term you won't find me using again.

And I should hope so! It is so degrading. And everybody knows they are LBFM's, anyway;).

SE Asia Joe

12-08-09, 06:33

Hi Guys - well it was me that sparked all this off in my reports. Sorry I raised a hornet's nest, but lets get back to reality. I apologise to those of us that are more sensitive than others. I certainly did not intend any offence to a race that I know is struggling badly to make ends meet because of a wide range of social factors and have to turn to the oldest profession in the world to try to eek out a living. Flipper is a term you won't find me using again. Lets now get on with the real purpose of the forum.
That is a very nice and gentlemanly reply which I for one truly appreciate. Thank you!

And I agree - let's get back to normal programming -

Where's the Pussy??!!

SEAJ

SE Asia Joe

12-08-09, 11:15

Has anyone noticed that the streets of Wanchai have lately been awash with high school age party animals?

Also, since the latest bar trend seems to be standing and smoking on the street how about someone starting a curbside Fenwick on wheels.

PS: As a member of Friends of Porpoises, I feel compelled to register my objection to all the politically incorrect references to Flipper. Has anyone ever transported Minors across state lines for immoral porpoises?

Finally, I have noticed an uptick in high end freelancers cruising the bars above LKF.

Happy Holidays
You ain't seen lotsa High school aged party animals in Hong Kong until you witness them descend on ALL the party places during their Christmas Holidays - when they come back from school.

Just wait a couple or so more weeks!

On the high end- freelancers cruising the bars at LKF - really?? I ain't noticed any more than usual. Mebbe its all dem athletes in town for the games attractin' 'em!!! LOL!!

SEAJ

Member #4271

12-08-09, 13:00

You ain't seen lotsa High school aged party animals in Hong Kong until you witness them descend on ALL the party places during their Christmas Holidays - when they come back from school.

Just wait a couple or so more weeks

SEAJWhat? You mean the kids will be in places like Neptune's? Doesn't HK have age limits on bars?

I will be there in a few weeks for Christmas.

Anyone know if the Navy is visiting and, if so, when?

Uncle Goober

12-09-09, 02:07

It is so degrading.

CS ... I really enjoy your posts, both on this section of the board and others.

But I am glad that we have decided to end this particular topic of conversation, because to say that one monger using the expression "flipper" to another monger on a mongers board is "degrading" of the young ladies, well ... we may as well be attending a left wing hippy tree huggers civil rights wank fest. (:-D)

Aiyah ... time for another beer or three in Laguna.

Cheers to all.

Rob Woodrow

12-09-09, 02:24

Do you call them that to their face and do you call someone black a nigger?
Again, not to belabor the PC point, but I haven't heard of anyone yelling "Flipper!" while they lynched someone from a tree, or whipped them for not working fast enough. To equate those two terms is an extreme disservice to that N word you mentioned. "Flipper" is probably far closer to "Yank" or "Pom".

Bob Builder

12-09-09, 05:53

Again, not to belabor the PC point, but I haven't heard of anyone yelling "Flipper!" while they lynched someone from a tree, or whipped them for not working fast enough. To equate those two terms is an extreme disservice to that N word you mentioned. "Flipper" is probably far closer to "Yank" or "Pom".

Rob,

I would beg to differ with you there as if you called someone a Flipper the level of offense would be higher than someone being called a Yank or a Pom, more to the level if you called someone a Chink. Like I said if it is something that you can't call someone to there face, maybe don't use it. I am not being PC.

Take it in context as I was replying to Joe Banana who thought it was no big deal to call someone a "Flipper" or "Flip Flop"

Too bad nobody here who is actually a Filipino (did I spell that right?) has commented on this.

Pita123

12-09-09, 16:11

I'm so glad we have finally stopped discussing the issues of language and are only seeing 2-3 posts a day on the subject.

What? You mean the kids will be in places like Neptune's? Doesn't HK have age limits on bars?

Yeah, this seems like a jail sentence waiting to happen.

Ezinho

12-13-09, 01:01

What? You mean the kids will be in places like Neptune's? Doesn't HK have age limits on bars?

I will be there in a few weeks for Christmas.

Anyone know if the Navy is visiting and, if so, when?
I will be in Hong Kong on Christmas night too and have the same questions. Actually, can anyone tell me what the bars are like on the night of the 25th. I assume they will all be open? But will they be full of girls, or will many of them have gone back to their home countries. I am not really concerned about flipp...er... I mean Pinays (lol!) because I'd rather just go to the Phils and do them there. But I was hoping to bang either a latina or african chick, do they usually stick around for the Xmas holiday?

Here is my plan, but I have some questions:

I don't have hotel reservations. Should I make them or can I just get something when I get to HK? My flight comes in from Singapore at around 8pm. The problem is, I leave Hong Kong on the morning of the 27th for Seoul, and I was planning on taking the ferry to Macau on the morning of the 26th to check out a sauna. So, I was hoping I could just pull a latina or african from one of the bars, get a short time room or something, do my thing, and then send her packing afterwards. Then in the morning I get the ferry to Macau, spend the day there, and then come back in the evening. What do you guys think, is this doable?

I hope to post a trip report and some pics if this all works out! Not sure if it will though; I'm still trying to figure out when I will get any sleep from Xmas night until the morning of the 27th. And can I leave my carry-one luggage at the HK airport on the night of the 25th and then pick it up on the 27th?

This is going to be interesting...

Bob Builder

12-13-09, 05:17

I will be in Hong Kong on Christmas night too and have the same questions. Actually, can anyone tell me what the bars are like on the night of the 25th. I assume they will all be open? But will they be full of girls, or will many of them have gone back to their home countries. I am not really concerned about flipp...er... I mean Pinays (lol!) because I'd rather just go to the Phils and do them there. But I was hoping to bang either a latina or african chick, do they usually stick around for the Xmas holiday?

Here is my plan, but I have some questions:

I don't have hotel reservations. Should I make them or can I just get something when I get to HK? My flight comes in from Singapore at around 8pm. The problem is, I leave Hong Kong on the morning of the 27th for Seoul, and I was planning on taking the ferry to Macau on the morning of the 26th to check out a sauna. So, I was hoping I could just pull a latina or african from one of the bars, get a short time room or something, do my thing, and then send her packing afterwards. Then in the morning I get the ferry to Macau, spend the day there, and then come back in the evening. What do you guys think, is this doable?

I hope to post a trip report and some pics if this all works out! Not sure if it will though; I'm still trying to figure out when I will get any sleep from Xmas night until the morning of the 27th. And can I leave my carry-one luggage at the HK airport on the night of the 25th and then pick it up on the 27th?

This is going to be interesting...

You should be more cocerned whether you can get a ferry ticket to and back from Macau.

Sky Ryder

12-13-09, 14:13

Hey Guys!

Well I have been unable to get a recent evening in HK, but it seems that spell will be broken tomorrow....with a little luck.
I know it is Monday, but I thought I would give Kowloon a try, since all of my experience has centered around Wanchai. Plus I want to do a little costume shopping at the night market and I heard there may actually be a couple of the Northern Sisters (is: Mongolian ladies) working in Kowloon..
If it isn't too much trouble I would appreciate a couple of reasonable hotel recommendations close to the Kowloon action.
I would also extend an invite to anyone so inclined to join me for an adult beverage and seeing who can tell the biggest lie!!
Thanks in advance for the help and I hope we can enjoy an bit of Monday Madness!

Sky

JackTheLad2

12-13-09, 15:38

Hey Guys!
If it isn't too much trouble I would appreciate a couple of reasonable hotel recommendations close to the Kowloon action.
Sky

There are many good hotels in Kowloon but have a look at the Nathan Hotel in Nathan Road - near all the action and, like all HK hotels, it is GF. It is only a few minutes walk from the Temple St night market and if you look closely, there are plenty goods on sale that are not on the stalls! Reasonably priced.

Jugador

12-14-09, 00:57

Hey Guys!

Well I have been unable to get a recent evening in HK, but it seems that spell will be broken tomorrow. With a little luck.

I know it is Monday, but I thought I would give Kowloon a try, since all of my experience has centered around Wanchai. Plus I want to do a little costume shopping at the night market and I heard there may actually be a couple of the Northern Sisters (is: Mongolian ladies) working in Kowloon.

If it isn't too much trouble I would appreciate a couple of reasonable hotel recommendations close to the Kowloon action.

I would also extend an invite to anyone so inclined to join me for an adult beverage and seeing who can tell the biggest lie!

Thanks in advance for the help and I hope we can enjoy an bit of Monday Madness!

SkyI pulled a Mongolian girl from Hari's Bar at Holiday Inn Golden Mile a few months back. She was with several Mongolian girlfriends. She was a little expensive for my budget at $200US and was outspoken about not touching her hair! I wouldn't repeat, but I enjoyed the experience.

Ezinho

12-14-09, 01:20

You should be more cocerned whether you can get a ferry ticket to and back from Macau.
Good point, I have decided not to got to Macau, there's just not enough time to do everything I want to do. So I booked a room at the Wharney.

Anyways, can anyone comment on how the bars will be on Xmas night? First time in HK for me, sorry for the dumb, newbie-like questions.

Haoli

12-15-09, 10:09

Went to the sauna at 607 Nathan Road last night, 3rd floor of the Sun Hing building. Exit the elevator on the 3rd floor, turn left and go straight. They're behind the double doors. 398 HKD for about 90 min and HE is part of the deal.

Locked my belongings in a locker and after taking a shower I was given pajamas and was led to the relaxation area with big chairs and a TV. Since I didn't care for a drink they took me right back to a massage room. On the way back they verified the price and whether I wanted a "massage girl. " Oh yes, and I didn't care to know what the alternative was. After a few minutes the girl came in with a big load of towels and oils, etc. She didn't speak English and had a high shrilly voice but her little body was rock solid. She wasn't real pretty (6 maybe) but it was dark and her body really made up for it. She had a tight cotton top and very short skirt on revealing her tight ass.

Started with a great back massage through a warm towel. I rubbed her calves while she worked and she straddled her thighs on my arms. Later she took the towel off and used oil to continue the massage while sitting on my ass. Very relaxing for about 45 min. Then she turned the light down and took her top off. For about 15 min she lightly massaged my back, ass, thighs, and balls with her fingertips and fingernails, while she leaned over and touched her nipples against my back. Then it was time to turn over. She oiled up and started working on the big guy. A previous post said that the girl kept him on the edge of orgasm for a while before finishing him off and I expect that she would have done that but I had to get my hands on that body. I rubbed her legs and ass, reached in to get to her pussy, and then started to massage her. Nothing was off limits. I sat up with my legs off the table and gave her a massage with my arms around her and my cock between her thighs. I asked if "you like? ' and she nodded yes. She really seemed to like it when I massaged her head and scalp with her eyes closed and head leaned back-she ignored two calls on her cell phone when it rang. Then it was time to lean back and have her finish me off right before the phone rang ending the session.

Back to the shower, then got dressed and left the shower guy a 10 HKD tip and was on my way. Very worthwhile hour and a half which I will repeat whenever I'm in Hong Kong. I appreciate the tip!

Thomas Jefferson

12-15-09, 14:27

Managed to extend my asia business trip for 3 nights in Hong Kong, all flights "fully" booked, my company paid the 3 nights in Hong Kong, haha, so I had a good excuse for my wife at home. Still in official business trip until Monday..

Stayed in central Hong Kong, arrived the hotel around 1000h in the morning, the hotel offers in room massage for 1 hr 350hkd. I always like to see, how far these massage girls will go. At 11am a woman around 30, not too bad looking, a bit chubby, but still ok, came to my room. She did hardly speak english, I should lay down on my bed naked, she coverd me with towel and started to massage, later changed to oil massage and took special care for my upper legs and ass.

Massage was professional and good with a bit erotic touch, at least I felt like this, turn to the other side, legs again, my little friend covered by towel, but occationaly touching, it grow and I build a tent with the towel. No reaction from her side. So I asked if she would do a bit special massage. After some hasitaing she indicated that HJ was ok, and maybe a tip of 100hkd expected, of course I said yes.

She started a very nice HJ, I asked her to take out her t-shirt. First did not want, but after some gentle touching of her breasts she did not resist anymore, I even got her pants down and gave her a HJ in return which she liked very much. Very wet! More was not possible, but I enjoyed very much anyway.

After finish we still had 5 min time, so she continued with a nice headmassage. She asked me to call her again and gave me a name card, if ordered directly with her, it would be only 250 for 1hr massage, not the 350hkd the hotel would charge. But I lost the name card the same evening, too bad.

Anyway a good start for my 4 days/3 nights in Hong Kong, afternoon should be "dundas 37 time", this will be in the next report.

Thomas jefferson

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Thomas Jefferson

12-15-09, 17:25

After some nice lunch I went to dundas streed 37, near yaumatai subway station, arrived 3pm, went direktly to 1st floor, told the lady I was here before. She asked if I prefere anyone special. I just said, just let me see, what you have to offer. Ok, 2 min later 4 girls arrive, I choose chocho, slim, 22 years, from chengdu. Of course no english, only Chinese or cantonese, lucky I speak a bit Chinese. Chocho was an open girl, already when undress me, she starts teasing me and my little friend, under the shower intensive cleaning and very nice BBBJ, after 2 min I shot my second load this day CIM. She did spit it out and continue to clean me with her tongue. After shower up to the bed. She licked my whole body, EVERY part, AR, and another BBBJ, I returned with DATY which she enjoyed (or she was a very good actor). A good fuck in different positon followed until I came again. As long as you get your first shot in the shower, you get another one on the bed, but once out of the shower it will only be one shot.

Than the phone rang and time was finished. Another shower and kiss bye-bye. Cost is 390hkd for the girl and 100hkd for the hotel in 3rd floor.

1st floor is officially only a KTV, no action there, you actually take out the girl for 390hkd for 1 hour to a hotel, which is located in 3rd floor. So the KTV has nothing to do with any sex related service, what you do in the hotel is your private thing!

Now I was hungry, temple street night market started to open, I saw some cute SW behind the booths. Had some nice seafood on the market and headed back to the hotel.

My evening should continue in wanchai, laguna or similar disco it should B.

That will be in the next report

Thomas jefferson

Ggg180

12-16-09, 15:56

As a long time lurker on this forum, I thought it only right that I contribute my lastest experiences in Hong Kong. I know a lot of visitors to HK to pop over to China to tap the delights of the young and fresh pickings of the like of DG but with the added risk of nor knowing any Mandarin, the HKD currency about 10% weaker than the RMB, this trip to HK was solely within the HK border.

K Pressure is a much written about location so I will not go into detail too much other than the nearest MTR station is Jordan and it is on Woosung St. Very convenient location and plenty of suanas and walk up massage places nearby.

After four trips, I realised, K- Pressure has a standard process when you go there where you are ushered to a small karaoke type room and girls are brought one by one and they are given about 3 mins to "convince" you to pick them. I have had girls unzip my flies, and generally all over me like a cheap suit to the other end where they just sit there and chat.

First time I went I saw three girls, and the first one that I picked was a cute young skinny energetic sex pot, all over me and kissing on the lips even as we were in the room. Second one, I don't remember that well, I think she was average and the third one was called Ka Ka looked sort of Japanese but the rest of the girls, they were all from China. I actually chose girl number one given her effort in the room, I expected good things, but was convinced by the mama san to choose Ka Ka instead. She had no reason I guess to lie to me but at the end it was a good recommendation.

K pressure has trained the girls to do a certain routine, when you arrive there is a shower with an inflatable bed, she puts a fresh towel on it and then proceed to wash you down and then give a cat bath, licking every crevice of your back and then a good 5 mins of rimming, my favourite! Next you flip over for some nipple sucking and frontal cat bath followed by BBBJ. Once this routine is finished, then onto the bed for more of the same, I forgot to mention the rimming was assisted with ice and a lot of slurping, I didn't really enjoy the ice so told her to lose that part of the routine. Fire/Ice BBBJ is standard.

Ka Ka was very chatty as am I so we got on well and she kept on commenting on the smoothness of my skin as she greeedily licked me all over. After about 10 mins of teasing/lciking, on went the condom, they K pressure girls seem to like to ride on top whilist licking my nipples, then some mish and then doggy with me playing with her ass. Finished with BBBJ CIM which was nice as she took the whole load and then spat out into tissue elegantly, none of this hocking up business.

In short, I went back and revisited Ka Ka and she even gave me her number, she wants to marry abroad so any takers?

The real highlight of K pressure is I found a girl that does anal and to top it off, she tried to make me come twice after I blew my load in her ass.

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Feet6279

12-16-09, 17:03

Thomas Jefferson

12-17-09, 16:45

After my dinner I went to the hotel for fresh clothes and some relax, as it was very early for laguna or neptunes.

I arrived there at around 8. 30pm and of course places were empty, I walked around a bit, came back to neptunes and once in I saw this nice sexy girl, just wearing a coat, skirt under it, but could not see it.

She was hot, came from vietnam (ann was her name, not sure). Anyway she spoke excelent english, studies in university in hanoi and needed some money, so came over to Hong Kong with 14 day tourist visum, just there for 4 days (I saw her passport later, it was true). I wanted this girl, so I asked the price, she said 2500 long time, but I got her down to 1500hkd, which is still a lot, but it was only 9pm, so plenty of time for the night.

Back to my hotel and she was really great, shower together, GFE sex, she asked me many times how I like it, she could do anything I like. She enjoyed it too. We had a nice chat, ordered some food by the roomservice, until we got the second round, this was pop no. 5 this day and I was really getting tired and she was tired, too. Next moring we woke up and had another round of GFE sex.

I booked a double room, so we could go to breakfast together, after breakfast she came back to the room, grab her things got the 1500hkd and left with a big DFK.

Of course, I had her the other night again! And did not regret it at all. She gave me her email and said, once in vietnam, I would be always welcome for a happy night.

Day 2 was coming, and I decided it will be dundas 37 again later. This will be in the next report.

Thomas Jefferson

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Member #4271

12-18-09, 01:26

After a long flight and some settling in with my room at the Charterhoue - not bad - but not as nice as the Grand Stanford last time - free internet is a plus - I headed out for Wanchai near 1 AM.

The general area is walkable from here. I don't have a printer so couldn't print Google's walking map but I found my way there. Basically head up Wanchai Road and cross Henessey and head for the lights.

Hit Escape and the place looks like Neptune's only with more space. I then did the rounds of Laguna, which looked dead, and then Neptune's which was slightly less crowded than Escape.

I noticed a lot of people smoking in Neptune's. I thought you couldn't smoke in there? I don't dig the cigs, especially after a long, long day.

So I headed back to Escape. Got slight approaches from a few chicks but I'm sure I looked a bit tired and dazed and will feel better tonight.

I settled on Cherry. Since it was late, I just cut to the chase and asked for LT and she said $1K HK so I agreed.

She stayed until almost 9. A few BBBJCIM sessions - I think the Filipino women just don't want to give yourmore than 2 or 3 pops in one night no matter how GFE they are.

She looked Thai but is Filipino. I've got another 2+ weeks here and I have to sample the Thai and Indonesian gals before I leave without getting addicted to the Filipino women.

Member #4271

12-18-09, 01:41

Anyone familiar with the Charterhouse: Is there a laundry around here and where is it?

I will have laundry to do since I'm going to be here more than 2 weeks and don't want to pay the hotel prices.

Joe Banana

12-18-09, 03:02

You made me laugh lautzu, the laundry is all around you! Lots of Flipper maids will have extra time off over Christmas if their employer is away, just make sure that doing your laundry is included in any LT deal.

Sky Ryder

12-18-09, 06:49

Made it to HK Monday and I want to thank you guys for the info about Kowloon. As it turns out I stayed in Wanchai, which turned out to be a mistake. I will try Kowloon soon though.
I did make the the night market for the first time and had a great time, I enjoy all of the glitz and even bought a few toys and outfits. I bought early without knowing there were a lot of options, but it was okay. I didn't see or recognize any of the "other things" for sale, but will return and look more closely.
I stayed at the Wharney, which I have done many times. but this one was a disaster. At check in they told me the power would be out from 1:30 to 5:00 am for service and checking. I had prepaid and was not happy about this. They said not to worry the elevators would work and the emergency hall lights would be on and they would put a flashlight in the room for me.......great!
I did talk to the manager and she offered to walk me, but I stayed...big mistake, I forgot that there was no air cond. and also when the power came back on every light in the room lit up. It was 4:30 am. I was not a happy camper!!
The night started great, went for the best steak I have had in HK with another board member to WooLoo MoLOO. On top on the Hennessy Bldg in Wanchai. A great meal, good scenery, all around good way to start the night.

We went back to Escape, and it was slow and then to Trafikk. He had to work early so took off about midnight. I wound up talking to a big bottomed Columbian girl. She had a cute smile with braces....yeah I know....but was surprised and grateful when I greeted her in her native tongue.
I decided that if the price was right and she agreed to perform a few of my favorite things I was interested. Well she wouldn't come off 1.5K for ST (only one pop) and while agreed to my request was not enthusiastic about it. I got a bad vibe and decided against it. She asked me for a 200 tip for talking to her, eventhough I bought two drinks. I smiled and told her for $200 she should be willing to give me a HJ in the bathroom.....and smiled at her. She was not amused....
Made the rounds at Amonzonia, Neptunes, Escape again, and while there were a few lookers, it seemed a little slower than I remember last time.
Maybe it was my attitude, didn't pull anything and went back to my flashlight lit room.....alone.
It was ok, the dinner made for a great night and well there is always tomorrow!!

JackTheLad2

12-18-09, 10:55

Anyone familiar with the Charterhouse: Is there a laundry around here and where is it?
I will have laundry to do since I'm going to be here more than 2 weeks and don't want to pay the hotel prices.

Come out the Charterhouse, turn left, couple of hundred yards later go through the traffic lights as if you are headed for Wanchai and a few yards on, on your left hand side is a small opening shop which is a laundry - one of many in the area. For HK$20 they will do up to 7 kilos - the price of one pair of underpants in the hotel!

Nabim

12-18-09, 20:00

Anybody try freelance Ukranian girl, and what is the going rate?

Member #4271

12-20-09, 04:36

And my life will never be the same. If the Filipino girls are like girlfriends, then the Thai girls naughtiness to the mix; are they all this wild in bed?

Two days, $1500HK per night plus extras during the day yesterday like food and all that.

A bit moody but when the sex was AMAZING; I'll never be the same after the things she did to me.

Met her in Escape.

Visual

12-20-09, 23:26

Thewayoflaotzu, Great picture.Thanks.

any contact info?

Is the Cosmo Hotel girl friendly?

FreebieFan

12-21-09, 02:08

She stayed until almost 9. A few BBBJCIM sessions. I think the Filipino women just don't want to give yourmore than 2 or 3 pops in one night no matter how GFE they are.

She looked Thai but is Filipino. I've got another 2+ weeks here and I have to sample the Thai and Indonesian gals before I leave without getting addicted to the Filipino women.I think / and have found over many many years of mongering in the Phils that the more sweet you are with them, the more you will be rewarded.

Here we all talk about GFE,. I reckon they measure us on the BFE and decide how much jollies to give out accordingly.

Try and be super sweet and give small low cost gifts. It might just get you lots more than you thought you could get.

Yeah its also true since when did the buyer have to be nice. But from experience, give a little to get a lot.

JackTheLad2

12-21-09, 10:46

Is the Cosmo Hotel girl friendly?

I can confirm the Cosmo (and the Cosmopolitan next door) are GF.
I have not been a HK hotel yet - and I have been in many - that has not been GF.

Thomas Jefferson

12-21-09, 14:57

Thewayoflaotzu, Great picture. Thanks.

Any contact info?

Is the Cosmo Hotel girl friendly?99. 99% of all hkg hotel are girlfiendly, don't worry this.

My advice: book a double room for 2 persons, (cost I usually the same than single room), and you have 2 breakfast included instead of one only.

So next morning you can bring your new GF to breakfast without paying extra.

And all the men in the breakfastroom will look jealous, but cannot show it, because their wifes already watching them, hahaha.

Thomas Jefferson

Member #4271

12-21-09, 22:06

In 5 nights that have seen me return to the Filipinos, and then sample Thai and Indonesian flavors for the first time, it was only fitting that I finally break my Vietnamese cherry.

I hit the scene near midnight and there were a few kids around - 18-year-olds off school? I hit Escape: dead; I hit Neptune's: dead dead dead; I hit Amazonia: nada; I hit Traffik and while it is quiet, I explore. South American girls not trying very hard to make a sale - only spoke to me when I was leaving. One was beautiful - looked like Peneloope Cruz a bit, dressed very nicely as well. What is her story and what is the price? She would be worth the extra I think.

I finally settled on Ly, my first Vietnamese from Escape. I made her promise that I would pay after and that she would stay all night. $1500HK. She looked better in the club but that's okay.

First session ended with facial as she kneeled on bath towel.

If I wasn't so tired, would have put more energy into the evening.

I think she would have stayed after 2nd pop near 5 AM but I need sleep.

She asked for cab fare and I said no as 1500HK for only 5 hours is pretty good. She giggled and left me her number.

Member #4271

12-21-09, 23:04

Should I make plans for Christmas? Will Wanchai places be open but empty like last night?

If Indo girls have day off, should probably go to Laguna on Christmas day.

Or should I just call one of my regulars and make 2-day arrangements and hit a hotel xmas buffet here in Central?

Wanchai was so dead last night and I was there 12 to 1.

Steve 99

12-22-09, 04:41

Thought I would throw up a few thoughts on my 7 nights in Wanchai in early December. Thanks to Jack and other threads I got a good start on where to go. I just did freelancers in Hong Kong and saved the Chinese girls sauna type thing to Macau.

Lodging: Stayed at Empire Hotel. It was fine. Got a good rate on Agoda. Ask for a free upgrade and get to higher levels if you can. One thing though is there internet ransom is outrageous at 15 USD a day. I had to have it so I payed. Still think Empire is a great deal even with ransom. Perfect location to walk the girls back. Staying at Causeway Bay would be a PIA if you ask me with taxi and all.

Bars: I went to all the spots Jack laid out. I liked Escape the best because it was clean and lighting good. Neptune is dark and beat up. Amazonia is good for the first beer of the night hanging outside a watching the scene on the streets. Laguna is wild on Sundays.

Girls: General thought is it is dominated by the Philpinas. They seem to be about 80% of the freelancers. Generally older and soso looking. Their were a couple stunner Philipinas but few and far between. The Colombians were fat and hard core. I did see that Penelople Cruz one fluz is talking about. She was from Panama so she says but she sure looked Colombian to me. I saw a stunning Vietnam girl my first night. Just gorgeous with a plaid shirt and Jeans. She was right out of Playboy. She wouldn't take pics so I passed. Something about her told me she was a hit and runner though.

I really liked the look of the Indonesian Girls on Sunday at Laguna. Really some hot Domestic Helpers/Hookers as I call them. They may be Domestic Helpers but they still want money. LOL. I almost got one but she had to go home and yes she wanted money.

One of my best girls was from Malayasia. She was gorgeous and great in bed. Really impressed with her. I have to head to Malayasia for a trip.

This was my first time to Hong Kong but I can see how guys say the talent has dropped off lately.

Pulls: First night I got a Philipina from Amazonia. She was fun but when she got down to business said she wasn't very good in bed. Not a good sign. Ouch. Payed 1000 but she left early.

Second night got the Malaysian. She was awesome as I said. Short time for 1000 but well worth it.

Third night got a Philpina from Boracay. One of the few young ones in Hong Kong at 20. She was pretty new to the scene. Nice girl. Stayed the night for 1000.

I went to Macau for 4 nights. Retuned from Macau then pulled another Malaysian for short time and finished up with a Philipina from Escape for my last night for all night. She was leaving back for Philippines. She said she came with no money and is leaving with no money. It is not easy for these girls with paying rent everyday and a lot of them going home alone many nights. A lot of the girls are just not good salesman also. They just sit in the back and don't interact at all. No wonder they are broke.

Pricing: You are a better man than me if you can get the super hot ones to go for 1000. I tried 500 HKD on a few regular girls and it just didn't fly. That story below of the Colombian only going short for 1500. That is outrageous. $192 USD for a fat ugly Colombian. F that The super hot ones are getting 2000 HKD which is crazy.

Overall it is very expensive. But I can see why with the high overhead these girls have and all the businessmen crusiing through how prices are so high. And the drink prices are outrageous too. I am not cheap but damn $7 USD for a beer. Buy your lady drinks carefully or you will go broke.

Sundays: I couldn't believe all the domestic helpers at Victoria Park. Holly Crap. There is a definite caste system in Hong Kong. As I said Laguna is a rush on Sundays. Hookers – Domestic Helper Hookers – and I guess there are just Domestic Helpers there for you freebie guys who live there. It is a rush with all those girls in there. Quite the scene. Its hard to weed the girls out though and you do have to move quick if you want to get laid to beat the curfew.

Conclusion: Hong Kong is an awesome city. Really clean for its size. Very interesting with all the different types of people there. I went up to the Peak on the tram which was tourist hell. Also walked up to it my last day there to get some exercise from all my drinking

Monger wise the free lance scene is fun. I think the talent is on the weak side compared to Manila or Bangkok. It is a much much smaller scene than BKK or Manila. Very expensive but it makes sense it is being in the heart of Asian capitalism. I had fun but started to burn out at the end. The free lance scene does wear you down after a while. You don't tend to easily bump into other mongers in Hong Kong. At least that was my impression. The big plus for Hong Kong is all the different nationalities all in one place. That is priceless and can save you money if you want to try different nationalities rather than traveling to all those countries. Overall I had a good trip but not sure if I will go back just to monger. Probably make it a stop off point for a couple nights on the way to Bangkok etc.

Apac Man

12-22-09, 21:33

...Staying at Causeway Bay would be a PIA if you ask me with taxi and all.

PIA... Hmmmmm

Pakistan International Airlines
Printing Industries of America
Professional Insurance Agents
Pittsburgh Institute of Aeronautics
PARACHUTE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
Prison Industry Authority
Peoria International Airport
Princeton in Asia
Philippine Information Agency
Public and International Affairs
Professional Indemnity Agency
Privacy Impact Assessments
Primary Interop Assemblies
Progressive Internet Action
Public Information Act

Okay Steve. I give up! What is PIA?

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Steve 99

12-22-09, 22:26

Okay Steve. I give up! What is PIA?Pain in Ass.

JackTheLad2

12-22-09, 22:56

PIA...
Okay Steve. I give up! What is PIA?
APAC Man

Try "pain in the arse" - maybe a bit like your comment.

Steve - good report - I enjoyed reading it and can relate to a lot of what you say. You are not far off the mark and I find myself thinking much along the lines of what you wrote. The quality is on the downward slope - and so is the quantity, which is perhaps down to more vigorous work by the immigration authorities. Many of my "old associates" are finding it difficult to get into HK and when they do, it is more difficult, if not impossible, to extend their 14 day visa. The days of going to Macau or Shenzhen for the day to renew visas look as if they are over. I read it is the same for Singapore - maybe an "Asia wide" effort to make it difficult for everyone?

Eric Burden

12-23-09, 03:04

My community Service to ISG.

37 Dundas is on...Dundas street very near where it intersects with Nathan Road in Mongkok. It is between Portland and Nathan road.

From Nathan Road, walk a very short distance down Dundas towards Portland st....maybe 10 or 15 meters and it is on your right. look for the sign in the attached picture. Walk up one flight of stairs to the left of the sign and you are there.

It is easy to find if you memorize this sign and start from the corner of Nathan and Dundas.

Nearest MTR stop is Yau Ma-Tei.

EB

Visual

12-23-09, 14:43

On the website sex can someone explain the process of "hotel reservation"? I am sure its been reviewed before not finding it.

Worm

12-23-09, 16:39

On the website sex can someone explain the process of "hotel reservation"? I am sure its been reviewed before not finding it.

Simple enough

You call the number and agree the time. He tells you the hotel name (usually a four star). Sometimes the guy's English is so bad he just gives you the hotel phone number and you figure it out. Then you go there, call him back from the lobby, and he tells you the room number.

Hotel girls are usually of pretty good quality.

JackTheLad2

12-23-09, 22:16

Simple enough
You call the number and agree the time. He tells you the hotel name (usually a four star). Sometimes the guy's English is so bad he just gives you the hotel phone number and you figure it out. Then you go there, call him back from the lobby, and he tells you the room number.
Hotel girls are usually of pretty good quality.

Not only that way - you can get the girl to come to your hotel as well. You make the phone call - usually a guy on the other end of the phone. You tell him who you want and he arranges the rest. He will phone the hotel to check you are genuine and he will usually phone 5 mins before the girl appears. I've reported on this several times in the past and it always has worked well for me. I stress to the pimp that if the girl is not what I see advertised I will send her back. Unless I like the replacement girl of course. I can honestly say I have never been disappointed and have had some absolute stunners. The down side is no girl has ever spoken English, they don't allow kissing, reluctant fingering or DATY normally. But when you are shagging a Miss World - who cares! The price is usually the same plus a taxi fare.
Have fun and report back.

Member #4271

12-24-09, 01:56

So will things be open tonight (Xmas Eve)? And if so, will the places be filled with providers?

I pulled a cutie last night but she is not feeling well so is not going to stay the second night.

Wan Chai last night was full of kids in the streets. WTF?

Are there bars where they can go drink? What is the point of them going to Wan Chai? Don't they have somewhere better to go?

FreebieFan

12-24-09, 03:25

Wan Chai last night was full of kids in the streets. WTF?

Are there bars where they can go drink? What is the point of them going to Wan Chai? Don't they have somewhere better to go?If you are an International school kid, with some $$ in your pocket you and your mates go to Wanchai and Lan Kwai Fong. You get refused admission /drinks in many places so you hang around and buy cheap beer in 7-11.

Wanchai isn't exclusively for the older males. Its always been a happy go lucky cosmopolitan type melting pot place that attracts all sorts.

Have bumped into my mates kids there a few times, thankfully when I was not with sweet Asian company.

Member #4271

12-25-09, 02:21

Christmas Eve and near midnight and Escape is practically empty! What happened? Every other night, Escape is a little crowded by now.

Neptune's is getting crowded and it was nice to be in the place on this trip and actually have some choice.

I was very tempted to take this little Filipino (?) cutie wearing bunny ears and some red Christmas-y shirt. Said she was 23 but looked 15.

After greeting the girls who I already know, I settled on Thai girl in nice dress. Pen, 33.

Very flat chested when the dress got off which could explain why she was messing with my man boobs all night. A few squeezes are cute but after that gets to be annoying.

Anyway, good technique with a lot of eye contact during BBBJ.

$1K HK for LT after talking her down from $1500HK LT; I'm getting better at negotiating.

I don't think I will repeat for a variety of reasons.

12 more nights in front of me.

Dodger Bulldog

12-25-09, 05:07

Thought I would throw up a few thoughts on my 7 nights in Wanchai in early December.Steve, I appreciate your thoughts. I don't doubt your experiences. But I do want to warn against generalizing from a very limited sample size of only seven days, especially during the holiday season. Your conclusions may not always be valid.

This was my first time to Hong Kong but I can see how guys say the talent has dropped off lately.Seriously, WTF??? How can you judge that?

Third night got a Philpina from Boracay. One of the few young ones in Hong Kong at 20. She was pretty new to the scene. Nice girl. Stayed the night for 1000.Not true. Many young Filipinas are around. See exhibit A for one example. Damages only $700.

Sundays: I couldn't believe all the domestic helpers at Victoria Park. Holly Crap. There is a definite caste system in Hong Kong. As I said Laguna is a rush on Sundays. Hookers – Domestic Helper Hookers – and I guess there are just Domestic Helpers there for you freebie guys who live there.True. Freebies are available every Sunday.

The Colombians were fat and hard core...That story below of the Colombian only going short for 1500. That is outrageous. $192 USD for a fat ugly Colombian. F that The super hot ones are getting 2000 HKD which is crazy.Check exhibit B below. It is up to you to decide if this Colombiana I took home last week is ugly, but she is definitely not fat.

Nor is she "hard core." She was sweet and friendly as could be, with an easy smile and as much DFK and 69 as I could handle, before the main event. Those things are not so easy to come by in HK, so thank god for Colombianas!

Sure, she asked to $2000 at first but immediately agreed to $1000. Speaking a little Spanish works wonders.

Afterwards she stayed for three hours, chatting, listening to Christmas songs, and cruising the internet to show me photos of her family and friends. I think she would have stayed all night if her Mamasita hadn't been ringing the phone off the hook to get her ass back to work.

So, again, be careful about generalizing. I am afraid that your comments might steer some readers in the wrong direction.

Applesauce

12-25-09, 22:06

Wan Chai last night was full of kids in the streets. WTF?

Are there bars where they can go drink? What is the point of them going to Wan Chai? Don't they have somewhere better to go?I don't know the English phrase for it, but Christmas Eve in Hong Kong a lot of kids (I use the term loosely as it includes everyone from their teens to 20s and even 30s) go out to the streets and party.

Member #4271

12-26-09, 00:44

Last night, Escape was dead again -- what happened? I went to Neptune's and greeted some familiar faces. Kind of sad really. No one trying very hard to seal the deal.

I settled on Bao, Vietnamese girl. Very pale and pretty, dressed nicely.

Gave me a "first time tonight" line. I got her to promise to all night for $1K HK and she did ask for money first which I agreed to. She did stay, to her credit.

But I couldn't take her perfume anymore and she was not overly endearing so I let her go at 4 AM after just one pop.

She asked for cab fare so I gave her $20HK.

Lesson: don't listen to sob stories, don't have small bills around -- they say "You gave me big bills, I need small bills for cab"

RIIIIGGGHHHT.

I find myself bored with the Filipinos dressed in shirts and jeans but at least you get some kind of connection there. At my age, there is no shame in getting girl you are comfortable with who is nice on the outside and a bit slutty for her man in private.

Only 11 more nights left. Should I repeat some good ones from the last 8 days or keep exploring?

Something tells me that I should leave New Year's Eve open and just hit the bars there and cut loose.

I think I will have to splurge on one of the Colombians before I leave. Too beautiful to be believed -- at least the two that I saw.

Steve 99

12-26-09, 03:24

So, again, be careful about generalizing. I am afraid that your comments might steer some readers in the wrong direction.Thanks for feedback and no offense taken.

I was definietly a little over the top on the Colombians. Guess I just saw a group of 4 hardcore older ones at Neptune and made that statement. I have been to Cartagena so I would never pull a Colombian in HK. Thats just me.

And yes just take my view by someone who just visited once. I can see how the scene could change from month to month. I will stick to my comments though on the girls etc.

Maybe because I went to Macau and saw the Rio lineup makes me a little more critical. Holy crap were there some hot women in Rio.

Otto

12-26-09, 23:19

you would arrive at Sunday afternoon in HK, stay at the Langham Place ..... guys what would you do to get a nice shot for the night

prio one : freebee
prio two : for $
Thanks

Otto

JackTheLad2

12-26-09, 23:40

guys what would you do to get a nice shot for the night
prio one : freebee
prio two : for $
ThanksOtto

Bring the wife.
Alternatively, get over to Laguna in Wan Chai for a domestic on her day off but you will need to be quick as they have a curfew. You could also try Victoria Park but you are on the wrong side of HK.

Uncle Goober

12-27-09, 09:18

Bring the wife.

ROFL.

Spat coffee over my key board, Jack.

Xmas greetings to everyone from rainy and cold (for us) HK.

Cheers.

Dodger Bulldog

12-27-09, 09:43

I was definietly a little over the top on the Colombians. Guess I just saw a group of 4 hardcore older ones at Neptune and made that statement. I have been to Cartagena so I would never pull a Colombian in HK. Thats just me.Many of my fondest memories come from Colombia. Bogota for the elegant women, Cali for the sexiest bodies, Medellin for the most beautiful faces, and Cartagena for the mix of each that come to service the tourists.

Asia is not a bad place to be, especially compared to living in sex prison. But I miss my Latinas and have no idea when I will make it back there. So to find a good Colombiana is a real treat.

Sex is so much better in Spanish...

DB

Sky Ryder

12-27-09, 10:34

Many of my fondest memories come from Colombia. Bogota for the elegant women, Cali for the sexiest bodies, Medellin for the most beautiful faces, and Cartagena for the mix of each that come to service the tourists.

Asia is not a bad place to be, especially compared to living in sex prison. But I miss my Latinas and have no idea when I will make it back there. So to find a good Colombiana is a real treat.

Sex is so much better in Spanish...

DB
Having spent a lot of time south of the equator, I can appreciate exactly what you are saying about "sex in Spanish".....although I will admit that the Portuguese version isn't so bad as well....Me gusto mucho las chicas desde America de sud!! One thing is for sure the representatives found in Wanchai are far away from home for a reason!! They would starve in their home environment....at least in their current enterprises. I did find the one example in the photo quite nice....maybe worthy of a little extra donation. It is funny, a few of my friends down south are fond of the term "sex prison", I haven't heard that in a while......

Turner Garth

12-27-09, 10:48

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Sky Ryder

12-27-09, 11:23

As it turned out didn't have to work on the 25th, so decided to explore some of HK I hadn't experienced before. I asked a fellow member for some information and he was very helpful.
I headed over to Victoria Park, and witnessed for the first time all the domestic situation "in the park". It was eye opening for sure. Then back to Kowloon for the night market, and met up with another board member for dinner. Neither of us had explored Kowloon and as it turns out it wasn't a good night, but that expected. Ventured to Hari's bar, Murphys, and Sticky Fingers. In all talked to a few ladies, but only one that was even a possibility. Really enjoyed the 3 filipina singers in the band at Hari's, but jeez is it possible to lower the volume just a little?

Didn't find anything of real interest, so off to K Pressure we went. It was my first visit to any of the locales and was introduced to three ladies (it was late, about 1:30 am) and choose a relatively tall young lass with a little English and a great behind!
Went up to the room, paid my $110 HKD and found out it was her first night on the job! I believe it as she didn't perform the normal ritual, but it was more GFE experience. I really enjoyed her company, and then she told me she wasn't going to come back to work there as she didn't like it. She did give me her HK and mainland numbers, so we will see if I can get a repeat session. I enjoyed K pressure and will try again. I would also like to see what the clubs are like in Kowloon on a "normal" night.

This is a little off topic, but I tried one of the "new" Okamoto .02mm "Hydro" non-latex condoms. They come in a black package with gold lettering. I was very impressed, it is as close to bareback as I have ever experienced and I would recommend that if you are interested give them a "test drive". The Okamoto's are "ranked" #2 behind Crown's, but I have not found the Crown's in a store.

Eric Burden

12-28-09, 02:20

having visited both establishments, i thought a review is in order.

both are similar and probably have the same owner. same set-up but slightly different system. both are on the second floor of a non descript street with a "hotel" on the 3rd floor for the action. the two places are about 2km apart on nathan road. both have a format of being ushered into a ktv room, mama or papa comes in explains the system, asks for requests and tehn the gorls come in. you pick one and go the the hotel, pay hotel, do the girl, ohone rings at -10 minutes and you are out of there. service is good at both places. they are honest with the time ( i have timed them) but do not cut you any slack either. both are white man friendly and chines friendly. i have never sen any other races in there.

k-pressure:
pros - really great service, rooms clean and well services with towels, etc, rimming is standard and always offered. you get to "interview" the prospective girls one at a time privately but more than 2 girls and tehy get peeved.

cons - only 45 minutes in the room

37 dundas
pros - girls are upposedly younger than kp but i didnt notice much difference. you get 50 minutes in the room, which is nice.

cons - you get a line up of 3 or 4 girls in your dark room. pick one. i prefer the one at a time selection process at kp ( you can talk to them and feel them up to make sure they are not too fat or have fake tits). in 37, you just have a few seconds to decide based on looks and smiles. i had to ask for a rim job.

conclusion
they are similar but i prefer kp. the extra time at 37 is nice but i usually have a better time at kp and i prefer the selection process. i have been to many brothels around teh world and find the kp girls among the best as far as attitudes are concerned. generally very good. it seems they have a thing for white men and seem to enjoy the sex.

eb

Ezinho

12-28-09, 02:21

I was in Hong Kong on December 25 and 26. I stayed at the Wharney Guang Dong hotel, which from now on I will refer to only as "The Dong". Since I was in HK for a short time, I did not have a chance to get out of the Wanchai district, so my opinions on the mongering scene in HK are only based on the Wanchai freelance scene. In addition, being in HK on Xmas night, I probably did not get to see the best talent usually available, since the hight earners probably went back to their home countries; at least I hope so!

Hotel: I booked a deluxe room at The Dong through Orbitz and I must say I was not impressed. The room was very small! I shudder to imagine the size of their standard rooms. The location is good for short time but you're so close to the action there's really no way you're going to get a girl to stay LT; they're just too tempted to run back to the bars afterwards. That's actually fine with me because I usually prefer ST, but if you like LT you should probably stay farther away from the freelance scene. I will include a couple photos of my room at The Dong with this report. I cannot recommend this hotel, at least not at the price I paid ($140+ USD).

The bars, I didn't hit all the bars in the area but I went to a few of them:

Galaxy Pub and Disco: The first bar I went into, they had a $38 HKD drink special, a big thing of Carlsburg. My biggest complaint with this place was that both nights I went there, there were a bunch of high schools students dancing, they were a bunch of tomboys or something like that. A pretty lame mongering scene IMHO. I met a couple of Filipinas in here, one was cute, 27 y/o, but I didn't really see any younger women the ages I like (18-21 y/o). From what I saw this age group is not very common in HK. The next night I went back and bought the 27 y/o Pinay a drink for $71 HKD, I found out the girls make $50 HKD off the drinks guys buy them, so it's not really a true freelance scene if the girls are making money off drinks.

Escape Bar: This was a very trendy bar, almost thought it was a gay bar for a minute. A bottle of Carlsburg was $55 HKD. I met another pair of Filipinas in here, and I started to pick their brains. I asked where the Colombians are and the older filipina made a face and said "you like Colombians? They're ugly!" She told me to go check out Traffik bar. The scene was not impressive in Escape bar so I left after my beer.

Traffik: Many latinas and african women in this bar. I must say I love the diversity of the women in HK. I met women from Panama, Venezuela, Colombia, Ivory Coast (I want to learn French now!), Tanzania, Kenya, and a few other countries, very cool. They were having a special on bottled Coronas, I think $35 HKD if I remember correctly. I must say the latinas I saw there were, for the most part, not very good looking. They were too old and hardened for me. There was one cutie I met from Venezuela she said she was going to be 21 on the 26th. She had guys all over her though. It was fun chatting with them in Spanish but they're all business. Sky Ryder is right though, these girls would be making $10 a screw back in South America. I guess "location, location, location" isn't just for real estate, it applies to pussy too!

Neptunes: I met some africans in here, but, like the latinas, they just seemed way too business-like for me. One asked me to buy her a drink, and I said "No..." and before I could get the word 'sorry" out of my mouth, she had already walked off to another guy! I was really looking forward to the african women, but their attitudes really turned me off. I got a really bad vibe from them.

Boracay: This place had Filipinas and Indonesians. San Miguel on draft was $49 HKD. The scene here was a little more laid back, although not too many good looking girls. I met a filipina in her late 20's from Cavite. I bought her a drink for $73 HKD and we started to dance on the dancefloor. She wasn't really what I was really looking for, but she agreed to come back to The Dong for $500 HKD. She was fine and served her purpose, slutty with big tits.

Overall, the Wanchai mongering scene wasn't very impressive. I mean, it was all right I guess, but no reason really to make a special trip there. I had a layover from my flight from Singapore, but I would have prefered a stop over in Manila rather than Hong Kong. Much better and cheaper mongering scene there, much better looking pinays. But Hong Kong is good as well. Beats South Korea, that's for sure!

Member #4271

12-28-09, 02:27

Overall, the Wanchai mongering scene wasn't very impressive. I mean, it was all right I guess, but no reason really to make a special trip there. I had a layover from my flight from Singapore, but I would have prefered a stop over in Manila rather than Hong Kong. Much better and cheaper mongering scene there. But Hong Kong is good as well. Beats South Korea, that's for sure!

Yes, it has required more work for me on this trip than previously but it it is fucking Christmas after all. The girls that stay are the hardened ones, I think.

Every Indonesian I've met this trip has a long-term visa here whereas the Filipinos have to get the two-week deal and come over here to earn money. So they probably don't want to do that at Christmas when it is quiet.

I fully expect things to pick up near New Year's Eve. Still, that said, I have had some good times here the last 10 days with 9 more to go.

Just avoid the Vietnamese. Too much work in many ways.

Lexingtonsteel

12-28-09, 15:06

Hi at all peoples that read and write this forum

I will be in hk in janaury

I need a real quick guide

About real prices,

Are there real possibility of freebies?

Best locals of wanchai

I wish you give me a quick and a full report

After read and during my stay I will report all

Thanks and happy new years at all!

Member #4271

12-28-09, 23:07

I've been here 11 nights so far and I don't understand why things were so difficult tonight.

Each successive night there have been more men than women in Neptune's so that doesn't help.

I hit Escape and it was pretty much dead and then I hit Traffik and chatted up one of the Colombians who agreed to $1500HK all night but then her friend came up and said "She doesn't understand English very well" and suggested a higher price.

At 3:00 AM that sort of shit is uncalled for.

Then I hit Neptune's and settled on this short, big breasted older Thai provider with braces - I forget the name - and she finally agreed to $1500HK for long-term. So we get in the taxi and she starts babbling about stuff.

Then in the room she starts telling me how I was not a nice man if I don't pay girls more than $1500HK all night - esp. Thai girls.

All week, I've managed to talk down women to $1000K per night and have had some great times with a few Indonesians and Filipinos. What the fucK?

So I get pissed off and say "Here is $100 for your taxi. Get out." And she keeps talking and I just said "Stop talking and leave. Stop talking and leave."

To quote Sam Kinison, psycho-babble bullshit.

So then I take a taxi back to the scene and hit Escape. Escape had a few cuties but no one was willing to drop below $1500HK for all night - never mind that by now it was 4:00 AM.

Meet one Filipino who looked Colombian who was willing to go back but she wanted money to pay her manager in the bar. WTF? I have never heard of shit like that so I left.

Go back to Neptune's. By now, it's even worse. I settle on older Thai girl - see pic - and she agrees to go back and I said I would pay $1500HK because she looked like she might be worth it.

Then she says her friend will join us for short-term for only $1K HK. So I said yeah.

Okay, get back and they get food from 7-11 and eat that.l

Then we finally get down to business and the mannish second girl doesn't have much enthusiasm.

And the little hot one is giving me lip. Not so much arguing as just chirping shit at me "You not king - you just let me do and I make you happy - not tell me what to do"-kind-of-thing.

Maybe because I am a bit sick but I had had enough.

Yes, I lost money but I just wanted them gone.

So I paid them each their agreed rate and said to hit the street. The hot one actually seemed surprised and kept asking "Are you sure?" Like maybe now she wanted to stay? Why?

Seriously, what the fuck is in the water tonight? A full moon over here?

Why was it so friggin' easy last week to pull HOT Indonesians in Laguna for only $1K HK per night?

I've said it before, the Filipinos may dress plain but they give you a GFE usually without much lip.

Do these girls think they can really get $1500HK long-term at 4 or 4:30 AM?

The scene is starting to annoy me and cost me too much money.

The sad thing is I keep running into my Filipino girl from August who I am sure would be easier to deal with than any of these chicks.

JackTheLad2

12-28-09, 23:52

I've been here 11 nights so far and I don't understand why things were so difficult tonight.
All week, I've managed to talk down women to $1000K per night and have had some great times with a few Indonesians and Filipinos. What the fucK?
So I get pissed off and say "Here is $100 for your taxi. Get out." And she keeps talking and I just said "Stop talking and leave."
Go back to Neptune's. By now, it's even worse. I settle on older Thai girl - see pic - and she agrees to go back and I said I would pay $1500HK because she looked like she might be worth it.
Then she says her friend will join us for short-term for only $1K HK. So I said yeah.
Then we finally get down to business and the mannish second girl doesn't have much enthusiasm.
Maybe because I am a bit sick but I had had enough.
Yes, I lost money but I just wanted them gone.
So I paid them each their agreed rate and said to hit the street. The hot one actually seemed surprised and kept asking "Are you sure?" Like maybe now she wanted to stay? Why?
Seriously, what the fuck is in the water tonight? A full moon over here?
Why was it so friggin' easy last week to pull HOT Indonesians in Laguna for only $1K HK per night?
I've said it before, the Filipinos may dress plain but they give you a GFE usually without much lip.
Do these girls think they can really get $1500HK long-term at 4 or 4:30 AM?
The scene is starting to annoy me and cost me too much money.
The sad thing is I keep running into my Filipino girl from August who I am sure would be easier to deal with than any of these chicks.

I have been reading your reports with interest and its too bad you are not having the best of times. What to do? I would try Borocay, Galaxy (not before 2.00am) and Amazonia for a change for couple of nights. I know they are not the best of places but there are always one or two girls there that might turn your head. Again - just dont pay more than HK$1000 for LT, regardless of what they ask. It might be quieter just now over the holiday period and if there are more men than women, then the price is going to go up. To be honest, you are throwing money at them in return for very little - and the word gets round. I would not go near Traffic and remember, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday are "quiet" nights in Wanchai. If you parted with HK$2500 for 2 girls, you might want to try Hari's bar or Sticky Fingers over in Kowloon. Its usually more expensive there but at the rate you are spending, it might be worth your while. HK$100 for a taxi? That will take them half way into China. HK$20/40 is more than enough.
If you had good results from Laguna - why not go back there?
Get Jennifer from the massage place in the basement across the road from your hotel. She will give you all you want for about HK$400 - she will not be in a hurry either.
By all means try your August Filipino friend - you have nothing to lose.
Thanks for your reports.
Keep trying.

Chaos Theory

12-29-09, 02:24

Flaotzu

Seems to me you would be better sticking to the filipina's. I know sampling different nationalilties seems exotic but in my expereince nothing beats a filipina. When I read your planning reports I thought you were going to find someone to keep for a few nights. This may be the time. The girl from August?

One thing you could do. Take one of the tables in the window at Coyote at about 9pm. A lot of the girls live in the apartments around there. Just watch for them coming out and smile. On a number of occassions I have had them join me for a drink and then home for action without any problem. Might be alternative if you a suffering bar fatigue.

Uncle Goober, any news on impending Navy visits? I am due in HK on 10 - 13 Jan.

Cheers

CT

Steve 99

12-29-09, 03:05

The scene is starting to annoy me and cost me too much money.I am feeling you fluz. By night 7 for me I was like damn this is too much work. LOL.

My last night spotted this gorgeous Philpina who was older but just hot. Bought her a drink and started talking. Yada yada yada. Get to the nitty gritty. I am like 1000 HKD OK. She looks at me and shakes her head no. 1500 no 2000 welll mayB. I gave up.

I held the line at 1000 my whole trip like Jack. They are getting too spoiled by newbie rich mongers..

One tip I will give if is she is super hot don't buy her a drink unless you are willing to go high. Or just get to negotiations right away before a drink. I know it ruins the mood but $10 USD for each lady drink for just talking. No thanks.

I think Fluz has had a good trip and the normal wear and tear of Wanchai would get to anyone I would think.

Artful

12-29-09, 03:17

In my experience, in Hong Kong the Thais are hard work.

The Colombianas? Fogeddaboudit. $1500HK for shitty short time, it's just ridiculous.

I agree with you, the Indos and Phillipinas are much better value in HK.

I've been here 11 nights so far and I don't understand why things were so difficult tonight.

Each successive night there have been more men than women in Neptune's so that doesn't help.

I hit Escape and it was pretty much dead and then I hit Traffik and chatted up one of the Colombians who agreed to $1500HK all night but then her friend came up and said "She doesn't understand English very well" and suggested a higher price.

At 3:00 AM that sort of shit is uncalled for.

Then I hit Neptune's and settled on this short, big breasted older Thai provider with braces - I forget the name - and she finally agreed to $1500HK for long-term. So we get in the taxi and she starts babbling about stuff.

Then in the room she starts telling me how I was not a nice man if I don't pay girls more than $1500HK all night - esp. Thai girls.

All week, I've managed to talk down women to $1000K per night and have had some great times with a few Indonesians and Filipinos. What the fucK?

So I get pissed off and say "Here is $100 for your taxi. Get out." And she keeps talking and I just said "Stop talking and leave. Stop talking and leave."

To quote Sam Kinison, psycho-babble bullshit.

So then I take a taxi back to the scene and hit Escape. Escape had a few cuties but no one was willing to drop below $1500HK for all night - never mind that by now it was 4:00 AM.

Meet one Filipino who looked Colombian who was willing to go back but she wanted money to pay her manager in the bar. WTF? I have never heard of shit like that so I left.

Go back to Neptune's. By now, it's even worse. I settle on older Thai girl - see pic - and she agrees to go back and I said I would pay $1500HK because she looked like she might be worth it.

Then she says her friend will join us for short-term for only $1K HK. So I said yeah.

Okay, get back and they get food from 7-11 and eat that.l

Then we finally get down to business and the mannish second girl doesn't have much enthusiasm.

And the little hot one is giving me lip. Not so much arguing as just chirping shit at me "You not king - you just let me do and I make you happy - not tell me what to do"-kind-of-thing.

Maybe because I am a bit sick but I had had enough.

Yes, I lost money but I just wanted them gone.

So I paid them each their agreed rate and said to hit the street. The hot one actually seemed surprised and kept asking "Are you sure?" Like maybe now she wanted to stay? Why?

Seriously, what the fuck is in the water tonight? A full moon over here?

Why was it so friggin' easy last week to pull HOT Indonesians in Laguna for only $1K HK per night?

I've said it before, the Filipinos may dress plain but they give you a GFE usually without much lip.

Do these girls think they can really get $1500HK long-term at 4 or 4:30 AM?

The scene is starting to annoy me and cost me too much money.

The sad thing is I keep running into my Filipino girl from August who I am sure would be easier to deal with than any of these chicks.

Member #4271

12-29-09, 04:47

Thanks for the all the advice. Glad to hear it's not just me.

I think I should just call up the Indonesian sex angel in the picture. I have seen her on two separate nights. $1K HK all night and good attitude as GFE and as sexpot.

She had a cough, though, and that's probably where I got my sickness from.

I also have seen another Indonesian girl for the same price who is now friends with me on Facebook and claims to be getting out of the game soon.

I would see her again but I don't want to fall for her.

Actually, I usually do negotiate before buying any drinks. One of the advantages of being a fat, middle-aged white guy is that I can look a bit exhausted easily and just claim I am too tired and need to go home.

I know that $100 HK was too much for a taxi but I didn't want a scene.

Probably didn't help matters when I started teasing the girl about getting $1500K HK LT customers at 4:00 AM -- yeah, right.

There is one African girl that I keep seeing who has a good attitude. Not my cup of tea here but it is fun to chat with her a bit and she tells me about her friends.

There is one girl with short bobbed hair who wears jeans and has shoulder tattoo who is just AMAZING. Body and face are just amazing. Not sure where she is from.

Usually she is just a the bar in Escape drinking and once in a while she will be dancing wildly.

She looks like a lot of work but she is just stunning, really.

I think I would pay $2000K HK for that one Colombian who looks like Penelope Cruz and who dresses nicely.

She is in Traffik usually.

Uncle Goober

12-29-09, 11:02

Uncle Goober, any news on impending Navy visits? I am due in HK on 10 - 13 Jan.

CT ... small ship here now. Just a few hundred.

Am off down to the danger zone now, will ask and report back tomorrow.

Let's catch up for a beer when you are here. My shout!!

Cheers.

Member #4271

12-29-09, 13:58

Basah

12-29-09, 16:27

Hi at all peoples that read and write this forum

I will be in hk in janaury

I need a real quick guide

Read the forum. Everything you asked for is in the first one or two pages, and your time most certainly isn't more important than other peoples time.

Bob Builder

12-29-09, 16:48

Read the forum. Everything you asked for is in the first one or two pages, and your time most certainly isn't more important than other peoples time.

Basah,

Anyone who posts such as stupid request after all the in-depth info posted here over the past week warrants a stronger response like... Fuck off Wanker!

JackTheLad2

12-29-09, 22:32

I guess the good thing about being sick is that it has afforded me a day or so to think. I am just too old now (almost 43) to enjoy Hong Kong the way others do.

If I pull a hottie, I get nervous and have performance issues. If I pull a normal looking Indonesian or Filipino girl, I end up feeling sorry for the girl and want to take care of her.
So, assuming I am well tomorrow, I will go back out on Wednesday night.
Galaxy? Escape? Neptune's?
So, I'm a long-term all night, GFE-type guy after all. Not a 2-girl guy after all.
Back to the normally-dressed Filipinos who at least treat you better behind closed doors.
What kind of scene would greet me in Indonesia? Long-term available? Similar experiences?
I've had amazing sexual and emotional adventures with one Thai girl, and 2 Indonesian girls and those experiences were worth it.
Okay, the final 7 days begin tomorrow morning.

And the best of luck!!
I've been following your reports with interest and hope if you don't mind me commenting. I spent 2 weeks recently in HK and reported my experiences as well. First of all your success or otherwise has nothing to do with your middle age spread or age. All that really matters is the size of your wallet. Old at 43? You must be joking! I am well, well past that and don't see that as a problem. The reality is that girls prefer older guys like you and me - ask them! We give them less hastle, are not as aggressive as the younger buck and are seen as "safe". Like yourself I found 14 days in a row hard going and, like yourself, was not well for a few days. This was a blessing in disguise as I took 2 nights off and saved about HK$2000. I did have some room service however, just to "keep my hand in" if you pardon the expression.
As for the rest of your week - see how it goes and please yourself. I gather you are on your own - can be a slight problem as the girls tend to go out in pairs at least so you have the small problem of splitting them up. Remember however, its a business for them. I had a girl stay with me for 2 weeks earlier in the year who I met last year. A Filipino who I could have fallen for (and nearly did). Sex on tap 24/7, good company, a good GFE time and for a cost over the piece which was a lot less than paying HK$1000 a time. Know what? Much as I enjoyed it, I missed the chase! And lets face it, the same old routine every night reminded me of why I got into mongering - variety. I saved a fortune on bar bills as well.
However, only you can decide what you want. Nothing wrong in pulling someone you feel sorry for - you get a better return in my view. There is nothing wrong in caring for them for a short time. Hotties tend to be a bit of a disappointment to me so I stopped looking for them to the exclusion of others. As for the venue - its down to luck I suppose, but Escape is my favourite.
Can't comment on Indonesia - the last time I was there in KL I was too busy to monger but I would like to give it a go next year.
I think there are a few of us looking forward to reading the rest of your reports.
Hope you have plenty good news!

Steve 99

12-29-09, 23:29

Before this trip, I had visions of doing two girls, hitting the Macau saunas, and hitting K Pressure and 37 Dundas every morning.Hey Fluz:

I can highly recommend jumping over to Macau. If anything just for the experience. And the public thing is a non-issue. You bang the chics in a room.

Though at East Spa they do give a show and BBBJ for a minute or 2. But its no big deal.

It is just interesting mongering Asian style. It is a whole different world. If you do go and like to drink like me do not go to Rio. No booze in the lounge area. Asians are not big drinkers in general so guess it doesn't bother them. But lush that I am I love to pound a couple after a good session.

Are you getting bored during the day in Hong Kong? Just curious. I don't tend to wife up and was getting a little bored during the days there at the end of my 7 days. 14 I would definietly be.

Chaos Theory

12-30-09, 03:31

What kind of scene would greet me in Indonesia? Long-term available? Similar experiences?
.

You could have a very good time in Jakarta for much less money. ST and LT. Pretty much anything you want.

If you parked yourself in the Mulia you would have access to CJ's. Expensive by Jakarta standards but cheap compared to what you have been spending in HK. Could venture out to BATS as well. Once you have a bit more confidence there are lots of other spots such as Block M etc. Take a look at the Jakarta forum. The Cj's/BATS route is probably easier than HK with better quality. Moving further afield is harder work than HK, a bit less secure but a lot of fun

Enjoy your last few days in HK

Uncle Goober - will PM you about drink.

CT

Member #4698

12-30-09, 18:44

You could have a very good time in Jakarta for much less money. ST and LT. Pretty much anything you want.CTMy advice: do not party in Muslim countries. With the world's largest population of Muslims, Indonesia has way too many Islamic extremists for my comfort zone. Too much anti western BS as well. I prefer spending my money in places where I am welcome. Bali is ok, but Bali itself is 93.18% Hindu and is another world.

Let the flame throwing begin.

Member #4271

12-31-09, 00:17

I hit Wanchai Wednesday night, feeling a tiny bit better.

Neptune's was a bit dead - more men than women which is a new and disturbing trend.

Then hit Laguna where I run into my first Indonesian girl - the pixie-ish one. I have seen her twice and I want to see her again but I don't want to fall for her. Every time I see her I just want to wrap her up and take her home. She's getting a real job in February as a nanny.

Then I run into the first Thai girl - the one who tossed my salad like I was her prison *****. She was an amazing sexual animal - a bit moody the 2nd night. But, overall, the best sex I may have ever had in my life. She seemed actually mad at me for not calling her, never mind that she had said she was going to be out of the country come 12/29.

Then I see - again! - the Russian-looking Vietnamese girl I gave the facial to - she wants me to take her and her friend or just her friend. Her friend is my type: rocking body, glasses, pale, high cheekbones - neither one really looks like the Vietnamese I know back home in America.

Traffik was the usual mix of South Americans. Boracay was lame.

The thing that is pissing me off this time is that places say "No Smoking" and no one enforces it.

Neptune's is now the worst. ALWAYS there are people sneaking smokes near the dance floor. For someone with allergies and illnesses like me, one hour in a place like that can set me back a day.

Run into my girl from August in Amazonia. She's looking good, I'm tired, it's late, and I need someone feminine, curvy, and comforting.

We go to Galaxy at 2 AM to have a drink as I am still debating. There's smoking in there!

We go home and she's still here sleeping now. I feel like I'm backtracking but I'm also old enough to know when to count your losses.

Now to plan where to go for New Year's Eve? Laguna's?

I know an Indonesian nanny I could party with in Lam Kwai Fong but I don't know if I'm young and hip enough to go there?

Attached one more pic of the Thai sexpot from last week, now mad at me for whatever reason.

Koperen Ko

12-31-09, 01:48

My advice: do not party in Muslim countries. With the world's largest population of Muslims, Indonesia has way too many Islamic extremists for my comfort zone. Too much anti western BS as well. I prefer spending my money in places where I am welcome. Bali is ok, but Bali itself is 93.18% Hindu and is another world.

Let the flame throwing begin.No flame throwing, but you obviously have never been in Indonesia.

Yes, they have the largest population of muslims in the world. But as they say in my country (the Netherlands, which shares some history with Indonesia.), the Indonesians are the Catholics among the muslims I. E. They have a very very pragmatic view of religion. Extremism is frowned upon by the vast majority of Indonesians. Whatever makes you think there is a lot of anti western BS in Indonesia? Again, this shows that you nothing of the country. I have been coming to Indonesia fot 20 years, have a lot of Indonesian friends (some for sex, others as friends) and have never felt unsafe or even uneasy.

There is an old Chinese saying: "Before opening mouth, engage brain".

Worth remembering.

Regards,

Ko

Koperen Ko

12-31-09, 02:03

You could have a very good time in Jakarta for much less money. ST and LT. Pretty much anything you want.

If you parked yourself in the Mulia you would have access to CJ's. Expensive by Jakarta standards but cheap compared to what you have been spending in HK. Could venture out to BATS as well. Once you have a bit more confidence there are lots of other spots such as Block M etc. Take a look at the Jakarta forum. The Cj's/BATS route is probably easier than HK with better quality. Moving further afield is harder work than HK, a bit less secure but a lot of fun

Enjoy your last few days in HK

Uncle Goober - will PM you about drink.

CTMulia is indeed expensive. There are many hotels (Ibis Slipi, Atlet Century, Ambhara, Hotel Kemang, to name just a few) within striking distance of Blok M that are much cheaper and are of a very good standard and girl friendly too. Not much risk involved in going to Blok M, or rather Jalan Felatehan, so why are you talking about gaining "more confidence"? Blok M is awash with westerners on the prowl and with freelance girls looking for westerners. I recommend Blok M.

Regards, Ko

Tiger 888

12-31-09, 03:26

...The thing that is pissing me off this time is that places say "No Smoking" and no one enforces it.

Neptune's is now the worst. ALWAYS there are people sneaking smokes near the dance floor. For someone with allergies and illnesses like me, one hour in a place like that can set me back a day...
There is the tobacco control hotline (2961 8823) and the police to call. The more people call the faster this will come to an end.

Member #4698

12-31-09, 14:21

I have been coming to Indonesia fot 20 years, have a lot of Indonesian friends (some for sex, others as friends) and have never felt unsafe or even uneasy. But you obviously have never been in Indonesia.KoAu contraire Ko, I have been to Indonesia as well as Malaysia and I did not like travel in either country as much as elsewhere in South East Asia. I was there pre 911, pre Bali bombing. I was last in Bali in 2009. I agree the vast majority of people are not crazy radicals, but Islamic extremism is a fast growing cancer in this part of the world. And it finds fertile soil to grow in Indonesia.

When I was there even pre 911, you could not miss the contrast in outlooks and attitudes between the Javanese and the Balinese people. It was palpable. Now if you like to visit Jakarta or KL be my guest. I am sure you know a lot of nice people. Some of the girls are very attractive as well. But my advice still stands; there are a lot of nicer SE Asian countries to spend your money and have a good time.

Another example of a country I do not recommend is Mexico. I have travelled from Mazatlan to the Guatemala border so I know what I am talking about. Mexico has great beaches, some hot women and some friendly people. But the overall vibe like Indonesia is not good. Why go to Mexico when you can have a great time in a gringo friendly country like Costa Rica? And I ask why go to Indonesia or Malaysia when you can go to farang friendly countries like Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, Laos, Bali or even Burma? But if Indonesia is your cup of tea then enjoy it. I don't dig the vibe.

Thor93

12-31-09, 23:39

My company has finally loosened the purse strings and international travel is finally possible again. I will be in Hong Kong the week of the 11th. While I normally stay at the Shangri La, they were sold out and I will staying at the new Hyatt Regency in Kowloon. I usually like to go find something over in Wanchai and bring it back. I know most HK hotels are ok with that, but I am curious if any fellow mongerers have stayed at this new Hyatt yet and could comment on how it is, both as a hotel and bringing someone back. Does the fact that the hotel is actually up a bunch of floors create any additional issues when you bring someone up? I imagine it could be a long elevator ride depending on who else gets on with you.

Member #4271

01-01-10, 01:26

well, i hit wanchai near 11 and stopped first at escape. dead. mainly indian guys and almost no women.

so i went to laguna and it was heaving. good choice.

got groped by a few women just walking through that place!

i speak to my pixieish indonesian girl again -- every time i see her i feel like a creep for not calling her for a third visit. but she is too perfect i don't want to fall hard for her in my last 5 days.

then i wander around and little girl on the dance floor points to me. me? i gesture. yes.

i go over and dance with her and within moments we are leaning against a back wall with our tongues entwined and bodies grinding.

she claims 20 but looks young. i'm guessing that she couldn't get into the club if she was really ****, right? right?

we leave right after midnight and the adventure begins. amazing. *wanted* me to take nude pictures of her but i feel like i shouldn't; if someone saw her pics on my laptop they would think she was 16.

she is nanny off work for a few days. i said i'd give her $1k hk for all night but i think i could have had all this for free, maybe.

whatever. she's had a hard life and deserves the money. won't break my wallet.

this trip has shown me a few indonesians with that weird mix of gfe and total **** and it's an intoxicating mix - hard to cuddle with a straight face after the things we did!

5 more nights!

Member #4271

01-01-10, 05:32

She is 20 and a half.

In the words of Curtis Mayfield, "Don't worry, if there's a hell below, we're all gonna go."

I'm a damned man fanning the flames around him. 5 more days of this.

SE Asia Joe

01-01-10, 09:27

No flame throwing, but you obviously have never been in Indonesia.

Yes, they have the largest population of muslims in the world. But as they say in my country (the Netherlands, which shares some history with Indonesia.),
Ko

Sorry to disagree and disagree strongly with your statement that Holland "shares" the same history as Indonesia and making it all sound so pally and warm and fuzzy.

The Netherlands INVADED and COLONIZED Indonesia, and even though the Dutch did do a lot of good things, you as a country and as a people did colonize AND DID exploit Indonesia.

That's what you did - you didn't share nuthin'

Sorry I know I know, this is a sex forum.... Happy New Year!!

Just IMHO

SEAJ

Marstop

01-02-10, 07:36

Hey Fluz:

I can highly recommend jumping over to Macau. If anything just for the experience. And the public thing is a non-issue. You bang the chics in a room.

Though at East Spa they do give a show and BBBJ for a minute or 2. But its no big deal.

It is just interesting mongering Asian style. It is a whole different world. If you do go and like to drink like me do not go to Rio. No booze in the lounge area. Asians are not big drinkers in general so guess it doesn't bother them. But lush that I am I love to pound a couple after a good session.

Are you getting bored during the day in Hong Kong? Just curious. I don't tend to wife up and was getting a little bored during the days there at the end of my 7 days. 14 I would definietly be.Asians not big drinkers? After Russians, my experience is Taiwanese and PRC people are BIG drinkers. IMHE (in my humble experience)

Fast Eddie 48

01-02-10, 07:48

Sorry to disagree and disagree strongly with your statement that Holland "shares" the same history as Indonesia and making it all sound so pally and warm and fuzzy.

The Netherlands INVADED and COLONIZED Indonesia, and even though the Dutch did do a lot of good things, you as a country and as a people did colonize AND DID exploit Indonesia.

That's what you did - you didn't share nuthin'

Sorry I know I know, this is a sex forum.... Happy New Year!!

Just IMHO

SEAJSEAJ,

Come on guys this is the Hong Kong forum not Indoneasia ,please take your fight over there maybe Jackson will start a Indoneasia flight club for you guys.

Fast Eddie 48

Kobe Beef

01-02-10, 11:26

I seemed to have landed in the political correctness and cultural proclivity board. Can someone please direct me to the mongering space?

Member #4271

01-02-10, 16:24

Are you getting bored during the day in Hong Kong? Just curious. I don't tend to wife up and was getting a little bored during the days there at the end of my 7 days. 14 I would definietly be.

Not bored. I like Hong Kong culture in general beyond the scene at night.

I've not been to many other places in Asia but it seems like Hong Kong is a nice way to ease into the rest of Asia.

The locals are not entirely friendly but the girls make up for it.

I just feel a bit tired and old. Not so much bored but just weary of the fake stuff. The Vietnamese are hot but they are so fake that their technique just comes across as laughable.

I've just got to admit that I'm one of those guys who prefers the one-on-one with a hot Indonesian or Filipino. At least it usually is a GFE and that helps me relax.

I just don't think I'd enjoy the Macau scene very much. And my desire to go to K Pressure or 37 Dundas has more to do with scientific curiosity than an actual desire to go there.

It's okay; I'm just realizing that I'm a different person than I thought I was. Hey, the first Thai girl I had was a life-changing sexual adventure for 2 days so I already feel fulfilled.

Basah

01-02-10, 18:39

Asians not big drinkers? After Russians, my experience is Taiwanese and PRC people are BIG drinkers. IMHE (in my humble experience)

Oh certainly, they are 'big' drinkers, in the fact that they get really drunk faifly quickly, but they are not actually big drinkers. kind of like the Koreans. Although ... I do remember an occasion with a bottle or 15 of Baijiu that was painful ....

Member #4698

01-02-10, 18:41

Come on guys this is the Hong Kong forum not Indoneasia ,please take your fight over there maybe Jackson will start a Indoneasia flight club for you guys.Fast Eddie 48Indonesian Flight Club wasn’t that a Brad Pitt movie if I remember correctly. I really liked that film.

But seriously Fast Eddie, I don’t think the discussion has gotten to fight club status. Just a gentlemanly disagreement and a free exchange of opinion. The connection and why the discussion began in the HKG thread is due to the presence of hot Indonesian girls (and Filipinas) in the Wanchai bars. These girls ask for a lot of money and one member of the forum suggested that if you really wanted to taste the fruit of Indonesia it would be a good idea to head there. I and a few others disagreed. We don’t recommend Indonesia for travel. That’s all.

This is related to the issue of whether HKG is a primary or secondary market for hot girls. Sure you have the 141 girls of which a vast majority are Chinese (mainland) and the saunas like D37, but when you hit the bar scene you find it is mostly made up of foreigners charging prices many many times the price they could get away with in their homelands. For guys living and working in HKG this is fine and very convenient. But for travelers able to vacation anywhere, it is a legitimate question: should I go Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, or mainland China rather than monger in HKG?

I will be in Hong Kong in 4 weeks. It is a fabulous city and not to be missed for a variety of reasons. And while there you better believe I am going to visit the saunas, the 141 gals, and the bars of Kowloon and Wanchai. I will spend a week in Kowloon, and then head off to BKK and Pattaya for 3 weeks to total debauchery. Thus, while I am in HGK I seriously doubt if I will be interested in any Thai girls in Wanchai (but you never can tell). From BKK I will return to HKG via a stopover of 5 days in Macau. In Macau I will devote myself to the Chinese sauna girls and I expect to spend a lot of money. I don’t care. They are really worth it. Finally I return to Wanchai for my last 6 days before heading back to sexual prison in the good old USA. And while I am in Wanchai, (as when in Rome) I will turn my attention to 141 Chinese girls and the Filipina & Indonesian bar girls.

So no fight. It’s all good.

Member #4271

01-03-10, 00:35

I hit the clubs last night after midnight and - amazing - Escape was very empty for a Saturday night at midnight. A little drizzle can keep people away?

I saw my girl from August and last week in Amazonia but she looked like she had a guy near here so that's good for her.

And I saw my little Filipino girl from last week in a few different places. She called after me in Escape and followed me out. She is a little simple girl, a real sweetie. I think I am going to see her on my final night. I need someone with low stress on that night, someone GFE for sure.

I picked up Malaysian girl in Neptune's. She looked Filipino or Thai but she is Malaysian. A waitress at a US restaurant chain here, she didn't want to walk out together for fear her friends would see her making money this way.

Nice, almost GFE. She was very sweet.

What is with some of these girls *down there*? Looks like there are no outside lips and they look and feel impossibly tight for girls in their late 20s? Are the girls having surgery to fix it down there?

Biig Banger

01-03-10, 10:50

FreebieFan

01-04-10, 01:02

What is with some of these girls *down there*? Looks like there are no outside lips and they look and feel impossibly tight for girls in their late 20s? Are the girls having surgery to fix it down there?Just as girls come in a great variety of shapes sizes and moods, so there labia comes likewise. Theres no hard and fast rule that says working girls have inverted labia and most certainly they don't get this "fixed".

Younger Asian women may tend to have less external labia than other races but this is by no means a generalisation.

Take what comes and be happy about it. LOL.

Iwannahumpalot

01-04-10, 02:56

.

I will be in Hong Kong in 4 weeks. It is a fabulous city and not to be missed for a variety of reasons. And while there you better believe I am going to visit the saunas, the 141 gals, and the bars of Kowloon and Wanchai. .I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the bars in Kowloon. I'm new to exploring the area.

Thanks

Member #4698

01-04-10, 06:19

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the bars in Kowloon. I'm new to exploring the area. ThanksI suggest you perform some report searches in the Hong Kong Forum and read them. You will find some very good info on the Kowloon scene. What I have to say below barely scratches the surface.

During the late afternoon you should go to Dundas 37, K pressure or Noble Sauna at least once and on another day make sure to schedule an appointment with a Tsim Sha Tsui 141.comgirl. Noble Sauna located in the basement of Peninsula Center on Mody Road is a high end sauna.

Hari's, at the Holiday Inn is one of the best bars you will want to check out. Go there around 11pm to midnight. There is generally an interesting assortment of attractive women available possibly including African, Indonesian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Russian girls.

Next, you should try your luck at Sticky Fingers which is not far from Hari's down Mody Street (not more than a 10 minute walk). Keep your eyes open because there are SW's on Mody Street making themselves available around the same time you may be heading over to Sticky. And you never know when you might see a girl that catches your fancy.

Most people prefer the Wanchai bar scene over Kowloon, but everything evens out when you throw in the saunas and the 141 girls (best assortment is in Tsim Sha Tsui IMHO). So I like both areas of HKG. When I stay on the mainland side I usually do not cross over to bar hop on the Island side. And vice a versa.

If you plan to go to Sticky Fingers I suggest you have dinner at Spring Deer nearby (2/F 42 Mody Road). It is an old Beijing-style restaurant open 6pm to 11pm. Try the orange-candied beef or the Peking duck.

Have a great time. I know I will (in just 27 days).

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Bob Builder

01-04-10, 09:32

Just as girls come in a great variety of shapes sizes and moods, so there labia comes likewise. Theres no hard and fast rule that says working girls have inverted labia and most certainly they don't get this "fixed".

Younger Asian women may tend to have less external labia than other races but this is by no means a generalisation.

Take what comes and be happy about it. LOL.I for one am glad most Asian, particulary Chinese women don't have a pair of "Mick Jagger" lips down there.

Member #4698

01-04-10, 14:28

I for one am glad most Asian, particulary Chinese women don't have a pair of "Mick Jagger" lips down there.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The "Mick Jagger" reference which sort of makes me want to gag aside, I beg to differ, BB. I like them full lips down there. I find it highly erotic. I am also fond of "puffy" nipples on small breasts.

Though our preferences may vary, I am sure we can all agree on one thing; the true worth of a vagina is how it feels when you are inside and how it smells. Nobody has any use for a foul vagina the size of the Grand Canyon.

One more thing, you guys have got to stop torturing Thewayoflaotzu. I am 95% sure all his girls were real women. But, and this may sound dumb, wouldn’t a surgical vagina be noticeably dry and require lubrication?

Steve 99

01-05-10, 00:08

I just don't think I'd enjoy the Macau scene very much. And my desire to go to K Pressure or 37 Dundas has more to do with scientific curiosity than an actual desire to go there.No sense of adventure I tell you. 14 days in HHG and not once just pop on over on the ferry to Macau. Oh well different strokes for different folks.

It's okay; I'm just realizing that I'm a different person than I thought I was. Hey, the first Thai girl I had was a life-changing sexual adventure for 2 days so I already feel fulfilled.OK. She tossed your salad and banged you in 14 different positions. Now was there BBFS involved. That could change you. LOL. Or something else? Life changing. Hmmmm.

Member #4271

01-05-10, 07:01

I hit Wanchai again Monday night, quite late this time.

Both Sunday night after midnight and Monday night at 4 AM, Laguna is empty. Just waiters!

Escape is not too crowded and Neptune's is the same old faces.

What is with that weird old Chinese lady on the streets who asks "I go with you?" Has anyone ever gone with that lady? To each his own, I guess.

Anyway, in Escape I was approached by average Filipino with a lot of makeup on. She was okay. I said $1K HK LT and she said no and said $2K HK LT which is just laughable. I mean, WTF? It's 4 AM, she's average/slightly above average. Am I such a fat load that she thinks she deserves $2K HK LT for 4 AM LT?

Gimme a break.

On this trip, I gladly paid $1500 HK LT for the one Thai girl and $1K HK LT for everyone else. But I've tipped and treated for breakfasts and cab rides and all that. It's one thing when I want to give over the $1K HK but to ask for $2K HK at 4 AM is just absurd - even the hot Colombians are not worth that at that hour.

Anyway, I settle on Indonesian girl, Lianna, I think. She looked kind of bored and sexy in the club but she seemed personable.

So go back, I couldn't perform - nervous, tired - so we waited until morning and had a good session and then showers and lunch.

Nice girl, a bit older and wiser but I had a good time with no hassles.

Tonight is my last night and I fly out at the crack of dawn tomorrow.

There is no way I am going to prowl the streets again. I made tentative plans with one of the nice GFE Filipino girls here so I will call her later I think.

If not, I've had a helluva 18 days here - some great times and lessons learned. The scene is changing - maybe it was just slow and off because of the holidays?

My first trip seemed to make me a fan of the Filipinos and while I'm still a fan, this trip has converted me to the Indonesian way of life. Too many beautiful Indonesian women here in so many different colors and shapes that I feel a bit overwhelmed.

Laguna on Sundays seems the best thing I've enjoyed this trip. And the Indonesian harlot I got on New Year's Eve. An animal/angel/devil that I won't soon forget!

Here's a pic of Lianna from last night.

Uncle Goober

01-05-10, 10:40

What is with that weird old Chinese lady on the streets who asks "I go with you?" Has anyone ever gone with that lady? To each his own, I guess.

She has been around for years. I have never seen her go with anyone, except once about two or three years ago. She offered three young navy guys a package deal, HK$200 (US$25) each. They took her off for a gang bang somewhere, while I stayed put at Mes Amis and tried to hold my beer down. That horrible thought still makes me dry retch.

Tonight is my last night and I fly out at the crack of dawn tomorrow.

I was trying to figure out why you chose your name. I had wondered whether you were a recent convert to Taoism. Or whether you were conceived when your mother gazed upon a falling star, and you then stayed in her womb for sixty-two years, and were then eventually born when your mother leaned against a plum tree, with you emerging as a grown man with a full grey beard and long earlobes.

But no, your departure from HK tells the real reason.

Like Lao Tzu, you clearly have grown weary of the moral decay of city life in HK, having posted in this forum your lengthy and informative post of this kingdom's moral decline. Like Lao Tzu, you therefore are venturing west to live as a hermit in the unsettled frontier.

(Or maybe you are just a Venerable Old Master, wink?)

Safe trip, home.

Cheers.

Member #4271

01-05-10, 12:03

I was trying to figure out why you chose your name. I had wondered whether you were a recent convert to Taoism...But no, your departure from HK tells the real reason. Like Lao Tzu, you clearly have grown weary of the moral decay of city life in HK, having posted in this forum your lengthy and informative post of this kingdom's moral decline. Like Lao Tzu, you therefore are venturing west to live as a hermit in the unsettled frontier.

(Or maybe you are just a Venerable Old Master, wink?)

Safe trip, home.

Cheers.

Thanks. Yeah, I've been a student of many religions over the years but Taoism helps and it's more of a philosophy than a religion so I like that.

I wish I knew why Wanchai seemed so different now than in August. Is it the holidays? The scene is not dead or dwindling - far from it. It's just...different. Maybe in August I was so excited that I didn't see the stuff that now annoys me: the fakery of the Vietnamese; the hassles of dealing with most, but not all, of the Thai girls, and so on.

I just would like to learn the pattern beyond the fact that Monday and Tuesday are slow days. I mean, Escape was booming when I first got here and now the last few nights it has paled next to Neptune's.

I had a good time and I feel like I've gained more knowledge of my self than I did in August.

I'm sure I'll return in the next 6 months.

Tony Toro

01-05-10, 13:05

Expect a few good trade fairs at the Convention Centre over the next 2 weeks (Toy Fair & Fashion Week) will liven up Wan Chai, then a slow down for the CNY before the build up to the big exhibitions in HK and Southern China in the second half of April.

Otto

01-05-10, 13:54

Hi Everybody,
I read about the opportunites in Victoria park especially on Sundays. Does anyone have some experiences in parks in Kowloon regarding freebies ?

Thx

Otto

Kobe Beef

01-05-10, 15:59

Thanks. Yeah, I've been a student of many religions over the years but Taoism helps and it's more of a philosophy than a religion so I like that.

I wish I knew why Wanchai seemed so different now than in August. Is it the holidays? The scene is not dead or dwindling - far from it. It's just...different. Maybe in August I was so excited that I didn't see the stuff that now annoys me: the fakery of the Vietnamese; the hassles of dealing with most, but not all, of the Thai girls, and so on.

I just would like to learn the pattern beyond the fact that Monday and Tuesday are slow days. I mean, Escape was booming when I first got here and now the last few nights it has paled next to Neptune's.

I had a good time and I feel like I've gained more knowledge of my self than I did in August.

I'm sure I'll return in the next 6 months.I think you will find that many girls go home for the holidays.

Member #4271

01-05-10, 17:39

If you want to meet some Indonesian women, Victoria Park on Sundays is the place to do it.

That said, it's not a pickup spot. At least the park isn't. I have heard that other areas near there may be.

Just don't be an a**hole; Victoria Park is not Laguna or a similar bar. It is a public gathering space and, for most of these women, it is the one day of the week they can socialize and be with their friends.

So, sure, go have some good food and meet some women. Just don't treat it like a meat market please.

It's far easier to just go to Laguna on Sunday between 2 PM and 8 PM. Can't lose there.

Otto

01-05-10, 17:48

Thanks for input..... I never treat humans as meat..... but think about an interesting experience....... I know the employee situation in Asia..With Laguna you mean the pub in Wanchai?
If you want to meet some Indonesian women, Victoria Park on Sundays is the place to do it.

That said, it's not a pickup spot. At least the park isn't. I have heard that other areas near there may be.

Just don't be an a**hole; Victoria Park is not Laguna or a similar bar. It is a public gathering space and, for most of these women, it is the one day of the week they can socialize and be with their friends.

So, sure, go have some good food and meet some women. Just don't treat it like a meat market please.

It's far easier to just go to Laguna on Sunday between 2 PM and 8 PM. Can't lose there.

Steve 99

01-06-10, 02:14

SE Asia Joe

01-06-10, 05:58

And which I believe is more relevant here.
/////
Can't believe how ridiculously expensive.....

I'm talking about the cost of "left luggage storage" at Hong Kong's Chek Lap Kok airport.

$40 for -3 hours, $55 per day, $130 for 2 days , $210 for 3 DAYS, $290 for 4 DAYS - AND IT'S $80 PER DAY PER PIECE thereafter!

Cain't believe it - but that's what it says on the price list!!

And don't even think about leaving over-sized or luggage over 30 KG - AT LEAST double the normal rate it says!!

SEAJ

Basah

01-06-10, 14:24

The Indo girls walking around Wanchai to me give way more vibes. Maybe there hookers though. Ouch.

Mmmm ... not 'really' hookers. They do go for money, most of them, but they are also here as domestic helpers. I say 'not hookers' because many of them are looking for a vibe - i.e. they won't go with somebody just for the cash. And if you spend the time, many are freebies. An interesting scene indeed.

Additionally, there is a big divide between the Victoria Park and Wanchai girls. The girls in Victoria Park appear to look down on the girls in Wanchai, or at least look on them with an "I won't do that." I have a couple of friends who sit a little in both camps ... when their Victoria Park friends come to give them something in Wanchai, they won't leave the MTR station.

Ubique

01-06-10, 15:05

How do the old hands here compare Wan Chai & HK Philippino ladies with the scene in Manila?

I may be able to spend a weekend soon in either place and could use experienced comparisons to the level and quality of philippino ladies in each place. If you look back in this forum to may/June last year, I met a 21 yr old Philippino stunner lookswise and performance wise in Neptune and I have seen her one other time (again, mind blowingly creative).

There is an off- chance I can connect with her in HK on the weekend, as we have kept in touch via cell & text, but she is starting to cool off on the texting & she texted me that shes "not sure if she could be with me in HK as she has to 'check her schedule'". LOL whatever. One of you blokes is probably showing her more long-term promise.

Anyway, I like the gfe and passion (as well as beauty) I've found with this gal who is starting to blow me off. I've never been to LA Cafe in Manila, but it sounds hit or miss. & I just am not as familiar with the scene in manila, so I am wondering if I should stick to HK. How does the scene compare?

Comments much appreciated & yes, I'll post a version of this in the manila forum.

Otto

01-06-10, 18:23

Steve thanks for the insides,
well are there also in Kowloon these parks with ladies....I know e.g. in SG it is not that concentrated like obviously in HK.

Here's some pics to put a picture to the place. It is unbelievable how many indos pack into that Park. I also can't believe how many lazy families there are in Hong Kong that need all that domestic help. LOL. Different world.

These girls are in there own world jibber jabbering with there friends. I got zero vibes there in Victoria Park. One did ask my name but she thought I was someone else. The Indo girls walking around Wanchai to me give way more vibes. Maybe there hookers though. Ouch.

Bob Builder

01-07-10, 02:46

Here's some pics to put a picture to the place. It is unbelievable how many indos pack into that Park. I also can't believe how many lazy families there are in Hong Kong that need all that domestic help. LOL. Different world.

These girls are in there own world jibber jabbering with there friends. I got zero vibes there in Victoria Park. One did ask my name but she thought I was someone else. The Indo girls walking around Wanchai to me give way more vibes. Maybe there hookers though. Ouch.

This laziness as you call it is responsible for a major portion of the GDP of countries like the Philippines and their lives would be a lot worse off without it. This may be about to happen when they let the hiring of domestic helpers from China into Hong Kong. Note there will be a restriction that they have to be over 40yo so none of the hotties that we get in China for fun.

Member #4271

01-07-10, 03:29

well, i'm home after 20 days in hong kong.

before i return to hong kong, i wonder if i should try thailand or indonesia? as i like the gfe, low stress offered by picking up indonesians in laguna or filipinos in neptune's or escape, i wonder if that is something i can do as easily in indonesia or thailand?

i know about the thai sex scene, i'm just wondering specifically how low key it is there and in indonesia if i'm looking for low key - i consider going to neptune's and finding a normally dressed filipino girl for all night lt to be low key and more my speed.

if indonesia offered a similar scene, i think i'd go there in a heartbeat. i just don't want go-go bars and bj bars like what i've read about in thailand.

you can e-mail me on here. thanks. i have checked the indonesia and thailand forums but feel a bit overwhelmed and not sure where to start.

John Smart

01-07-10, 04:03

And which I believe is more relevant here.

Can't believe how ridiculously expensive.....

I'm talking about the cost of "left luggage storage" at Hong Kong's Chek Lap Kok airport.

$40 for -3 hours, $55 per day, $130 for 2 days , $210 for 3 DAYS, $290 for 4 DAYS - AND IT'S $80 PER DAY PER PIECE thereafter!

SEAJ

Try Heathrow -- Left luggage rates there are £8.00 per item per day

Yunis2141

01-07-10, 06:30

Hi,

It's been nearly 2 years since I last posted. I'm back in HK now, and a few weeks ago I wasn't feeling so good emotionally so I decided to go out and have some fun. I'd never been to clubs before, if you read my last report but I managed to escape from my family and head off to Wan Chai. I managed to find my way to Laguna at around midnight. After paying the extortionate $200 entrance fee, I got to the bar and ordered a disgusting Jack and Coke, and sat there for a while taking in the sight. This was a Monday night, it was quiet but I felt comfortable without people pushing and shoving around.

Soon a girl came over and asked me for a drink. Well, I couldn't say no. I didn't find her attractive at all but she and her friend sat down next to me and we started talking etc. Soon I was dancing with her, it was fun to dance again but I didn't feel anything for this girl so I went back to the bar. Saw another girl sitting and watching so smniled at her and we started talking. Lots of relationship stuff.

I felt a connection so asked her if she wanted to leave and go somewhere private. She told me she was working and that she wanted $1500 to go with me. I told her no way and she lowered it to $1000. This was after I told her I would need to go home soon anyway so guess it would have been a ST. We went to this motel place with a pink sign and well I thought it was alright, but was a bit drunk and didn't perform well. I supposedly made her cum 5-6 times. Yeah right. Was a little over an hour and we got out and I hopped into a taxi and went back. By the time I got back it was around 3am maybe and collapsed for the night.

Something I still worry about is that the condom broke while I was inside her. It was torn on the side when I pulled out, would I need to have myself checked out? What kind of condom is the best for thin-ness and safety?

Tomato

01-07-10, 17:58

Kurre

01-07-10, 20:04

I am mostly active in the Berlin area, but visited HK this week. Here's my 10 HK$ worth.

After arriving, I headed straight for K Pressure. I had to stand down to see a second girl, since mamasan insisted on me taking her choice. Anna was a mainland girl, young with great body and full 10 attitude. AR and soap massage were a bit mechanical, but enjoyable. 2 pops in 45 minutes, a first for me.

In the wee hours of the morning I picked up a vietnamese girl from Neptune: she claimed she had arrived just the same day. Well, I almost believe her, since she was totally shy at first and wouldn't absolutely not do a CBJ, only OWO. Anyway, after 45 min of DATY she started to relax and guided my finger into her ass and came delightfully. Rest of the night was a totally GFE. I won't have anything against Vietnamese WGs from now on: a bit businesslike, but beautiful and friendly. I overpaid Quinh a bit by giving 1500 for LT. Body 9, attitude and face 8'ish.

Couple of nights later hooked up with another Vietnamese girl, Jessica. Talking, touching, light kissing at Neptune, but once talk turned to money, VERY down to business. We agreed on 1, 5 hrs in Ming Court, 900 for her and 200 for the room (she promised to talk the Old lady to give it for a price of one hour), come twice and all covered (my request). She insisted on DP porn on telly and after 1st pop we ended up talking about anal porn and DP, which she said she liked. I don't know if she was turned on, but she responded very well to DATY and she too guided my finger to her asshole. What is it with these Vietnamese and anal sex!

Anyway, she either came or faked an orgasm and did a quick BJ and guided me straight to her ass. I kept slipping out, but she worked 3 or 4 positions before she got me fully lodged. For the shot, I pulled out and rammed her pussy from behind while fingering her ass. One of the best PSE's ever! Body 9 (fake boobs), beautiful face and for attitude I have to give 9, since she delivered what she promised and was superfriendly, although businesslike.

I hooked up with an Indonesian domestic over the weekend in Laguna and what is said on this forum, applies: wine them, dine them, treat them with respect but be real, don't promise the moon, and you're in for a marvelous freebie-ride. Took 2 nights and two days, after which everything was on menu. No money asked (although drinks and restaurants did add up to 2k over 3 days (including my own provisions)). And no SMS-show afterwards!

On Tuesday night I ran into an odd drunken Indonesian pair Klara and Anna! They called after me "two for the price of one, only 1000HK$ plus 200 for the taxi". I just had to stop and talk to them, but since I was just returning from my session with Jessica, was totally spent. Thursday night I spotted them in Escape and followed them to the street. They remembered me and told that the offer stands. Back at the hotel I got the feeling, that Anna had not had lot of WG experience, but with my suggestions and Klara demonstrating how to go about it, we had a pretty good session, as threesomes go. Klara is a fun girl, has beautiful breast and a firm body. As for Anna, felt a bit sorry for her: shy, inexperienced, upthight, but willing to do what told. They would have stayed for 5 hours (!), but I lost steam and kicked them out earlier. And, oh, no changing of condoms in the middle of a session! Gave them 20HK$ for taxi.

In Wan Chai it seemed impossible to get even short time under 1000$, especially with gorgeous looking thai and viet girls. If you want GFE invest your money in freebies or motivate girl with a decent reward. I liked Ming Court with it's multiple mirrors, which gave an FKK feel to the session.

General remarks:

Fleming is very girlfriendly. The Harbourview International register visitors at night. For internet connection, go to 3 Shop, and get a Data Prepaid for about 30HK$ a day for your mobile phone.

I RTFF before my trip and I recommend investing the time. Great work, fellows!

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Steve 99

01-08-10, 01:21

Well, I almost believe her, since she was totally shy at first and wouldn't absolutely not do a CBJ, only OWO.Now thats a first. My kinda girl. Now can you teach that to the rest of the world ousside asia where CBJ is spreading. LOL.

Great report Kurre. I give you credit for playing out the Indo girl. Me I don't have the patience for 2 days of no sex. But sounds fun. Question: Did she not have to go back to work? I get confused how you play out a Domestic if they work 6 days a week.

Bob Builder

01-08-10, 02:05

Chaos Theory

01-08-10, 02:37

Interesting if you read back over the last few days. You have people saying they prefer filipinas, indons and viets and other people saying they avoid filipinas, indons or viets!!! Just shows three things:

1. We all have different tastes - thank goodness or we would all chase the same girls!

2. Perceptions of how good girls from a particular country are depends on experiences with individuals. it s silly to generalise about a girls from any one country based on experiences with just one or two. Its the individual girl that is important not where they come from

and

3. What a wonderful place Wan Chai is - a veritable mongers supermarket

Can't wait to get back there on Sunday!

CT

FreebieFan

01-08-10, 09:50

Thomas Jefferson

01-08-10, 10:33

but was a bit drunk and didn't perform well. I supposedly made her cum 5-6 times. Yeah right.Dreaming, or what? Haha. Sorry no offense, but I had to comment this.

Some girls are good actors. Anyway, thanks for sharing your infos.

Thomas jefferson

Johnny Rocket

01-08-10, 11:23

Member #4698

01-08-10, 17:28

Then post your own reports about local girls. I'm sure you've had lots of them, right? Local non-pro girls are frigid bitches who require much more money and time than Indos and Flippers and have terrible attitudes. (There are exceptions.) Flippers and Indos can be had easily for less money or no money at all. Hence that is where most non-Chinese go.

If you dig local (Chinese actually, very few of them are local) girls, look on 141, 161, etc or go to 37D, KP or a YS. Very simple process and you can find one that appeals to you. Wash, rinse, repeat. Try contributing something before you start criticizing people in your 4th post.

We didn't create the situation in this town, we've adapted to it.Yes I agree 100%. I am into local girls as much as anyone, but where are they? Not in the bars and most of the 141 Chinese girls are mainland imports. The few HKG 141 girls available are very expensive, 1400 or more for an hour or less, and hide their faces on their web page. I don't think that is a good deal. The best 141 hotel reservation action is with Chinese imports in the 700 to 900 price range. There are some very beautiful girls to choose from, but be aware that many images are photoshopped. Boy do I love, hate Adobe Photoshop.

The days of Suzie Wong are long gone. That dumb William Holden movie was made in the '50's. Back then Hong Kong was like AC in the 70's offering your choice of gorgeous local Hong Kong girls for a few dollars per week or month. So today the best action is with the Filipina and Indo girls hanging out in the bars. No use crying over spilled milk.

Kurre

01-08-10, 18:39

Question: Did she not have to go back to work? I get confused how you play out a Domestic if they work 6 days a week.She had her own place and had to work only 6 hrs a day - at least that is what she told me. I got the picture she was already moving on to a new place. One day she arranged free by agreeing to work on her day off. Must have pretty tolerant employer, too.

Tony Toro

01-09-10, 14:48

Arrived HK this morning around 8, was at my TST hotel by 9. Quite amazed I was able to get into my room so early which was great. Had not expected to get into my room before late AM so had time to spare, thought I would test my luck and called the cell of a regular of mine "Kathy". We haven't seen each other since late November.

Unbelievable she picks up at 9:30am AND is more than happy to pay me a visit. I can't stress enough to any new guys. Get yourself a pre paid HK SIM card at any 7/11. It costs as little as HK$100. You can recharge it each visit, use this SIM to call girls, record their numbers, do your business. Stops you having any embarrassing calls in the middle of the night when you get home. It will last "forever" providing you top up the value at least once every 6 months.

Anyway, so Kathy will be at my room soon so need to unpack fast, get organised, quick tidy up and get the TV organsied. I'm ready!

45 minutes later, a "soft" knock on the door, BINGO!

Kathy has a new hair style, a little shorter and funkier. I like it! A lot of that green eye shadow I like as well. She is Taiwanese (looks very Japanese/Korean), 23 years old, about 5' 7", a little "heavier" by asian standards but very very slim in western terms. A gorgeous face, great ass, beautiful smile, a small tattoo on her right shoulder and Sadly. Small tits like most Chinese. Speaks GREAT english and has often asked if she can stay on for an hour or so at the end of a session to chat and work on her english. Makes me laugh as she does her best to discuss current affairs. Very nice, fun chick.

I met her about 2 years ago, we became "close" when the condom I was using broke and there was a sudden need to get some tests done etc. Real inconvenient! My fault actually, too lazy to bring my own rubbers from home so I accepted some of her stock which was a little "tight". I figure I am slightly on the average size ++ so lesson well learnt, BYO.

Anyway, into the shower we go, she hasn't stopped talking since she arrived, how surprised she was her phone rang so early, how was my flight etc.

Gives me a thorough clean, then kneels down for some BBBJ. The overspray of the shower is starting to make her eyeliner run so I suggest we retire to the bed, a nice Kingsize with crisp white sheets waiting to be "destroyed".

I am staying at the Holiday Inn, a fave of mine, very GF. Sometimes priced well, other times a rip off so I stay elsewhere, this time HK$1300 / night inc breakfast. Of course you don't get free breakfast the day you check in. Hence that's why Kathy is here.

Kathy has perfect milky white skin so looks great nude, she has a tuft of black hair above her pussy but nothing either side of her crack. Looks delightful but I am too scared of STD's to go DATY. A wimp I guess?

I am on my bed waiting while she touches up her make up.

We start with some deep passionate kissing, then more BBBJ, absolutely A-CLASS BJ's this girl, lots of eye contact, great technique, works the entire shaft but always keeps focus on the knob, guides my hand to her pussy, one digit goes in the front door while another enters the back door. Strange she likes her ass fingered but won't take the dick up there. They rarely do.

I am looking at our reflection in the mirror above the desk in my room in all it's glory and it's as much as I can take, I CIM and she takes it with a smile. Kathy makes sure I am clean before popping into the bathroom to "hoyk" up my deposit and spit it down the sink. This bit always seems odd when the cute young girl comes back to the bed and you think. "was that you making those noises? "

When it comes to sex, CG is her strength although she says it "feels better" in doggy style, but for this morning I'm done. Long flight and all.

Now on to the massage and actually she is rather mediocre. However she thinks she is good and has great technique and I am not going to tell her otherwise. Plus, even a bad massage, I still enjoy having a naked women sitting on me.

A bit more chit chat and time for me to do some work and Kathy to head off. My cost is HK$500 which I think very reasonable for the whole experience, mostly as a result of the fact we have become quite friendly.

I'm here for 2 weeks so expect to see Kathy at least once more, maybe twice. Need to save some time to see a lovely Mongolian called Zulla and a Korean called Suki. Plus a couple of trips to Wan Chai/Escape.

AND.

This trip may also see me lose my 37D cherry. I am seriously thinking about it. Either that, or KP or 8MK? I have never done any of them. Studied the forum and find pros and cons for both. I like the Northern Asian "look", early 20's, but at least "some" skill and an eager to please attitude. Is one better suited than another for me?

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Lexingtonsteel

01-09-10, 19:17

Rob Woodrow

01-10-10, 15:44

This trip may also see me lose my 37D cherry. I am seriously thinking about it. Either that, or KP or 8MK? I have never done any of them. Studied the forum and find pros and cons for both. I like the Northern Asian "look", early 20's, but at least "some" skill and an eager to please attitude. Is one better suited than another for me?
37D and KP both fit the "eager to please attitude" criteria. 8MK, not so much.

Pita123

01-10-10, 18:23

Basah

01-11-10, 12:10

something i still worry about is that the condom broke while i was inside her. it was torn on the side when i pulled out, would i need to have myself checked out? what kind of condom is the best for thin-ness and safety?

yes, get yourself checked. there are a couple of free clinics rep001tered around hong kong which take about 90 to 120 minutes to get you tested for aids, syphillis, gonnorhea and clamydia. there are a couple of japanese brands (okinomoto?) that are good.

Bob Builder

01-11-10, 13:25

Sorry for my question

I read many many and many experieces of a lot of people in HK.

What about STD?

People never speak of std, some of reader and some of guy who stay with girl

Kept some time std in HK?

Or HK is safest place in the world where never people and girls keep std?

I wish you reply to me.

Thanks

Why, are you intending to do the girls bareback? If you wear a condom what does it matter? Do you do a detailed examination of a gal's mouth and pussy before you do her and would it help at all because many STDs do have visible symptoms?

As STDs normally take a few weeks to show, how are mongers who go frequently going to know where they caught something, whether they wear condoms or not?

In reality, who is going to admit they caught a STD anyway?

Sky Ryder

01-11-10, 13:48

yes, get yourself checked. there are a couple of free clinics rep001tered around hong kong which take about 90 to 120 minutes to get you tested for aids, syphillis, gonnorhea and clamydia. there are a couple of japanese brands (okinomoto?) that are good.

the okimoto .02 is the thinnest one i have found and it has the advantage of being non latex as well. the down side is it is made for the asian market, which translates into a tight fit for some westerners. i really like the feel, but struggle with the fit. ( that isn't bragging, i am sure that many guys know exactly what i mean) i have never tried the larger size okimoto's but their average thickness is .03 i believe.

Yunis2141

01-11-10, 15:41

Turns out I'm alright, will be getting a more in depth test when I get the chance. I managed to get a 141 girl last week, at North Point Coronet court. I went to level 1, didn't know if there are girls on the other levels but there are maybe around 20 doors available to ring. I rang the last door on the corridor and a girl opened it and welcomed me in.

She gently eased off my clothing and hung it up on the door, then took me into the shower and washed me. I stood outside and dried myself while she washed herself. After we were both dry, she lay some towels on the bed and made me lie down. She started sucking on my nipples and then took some lube and gave me a handjob. After a while, she took a condom and put it on me. It was tight and she started blowing me. She was very good and kept eye contact with me as she was doing it. I tried to get up but she pushed me back down and told me that she would do all the work.

She hopped on top of me and I slipped inside her. She rode me for a long while, then we moved onto a few other positions before I came inside the condom while in the missionary position. This all took about 45 minutes. Again, I supposedly gave her an orgasm, but this time it was a bit more believable. We lay in the bed and chatted for a while, then she washed me again and I paid her $400 and left.

Overall, it was a pretty good experience. The girl was a good price, she never asked for more, she was good at sex. She wasn't great looking but definitely do-able. Except for the experience of catching the girl and building a connection with her at the clubs, I think the rest was actually better. I recommend 141 girls when you can't be bothered spending over $1000 more playing the club game.

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Oakley08

01-11-10, 18:27

I pulled a Mongolian girl from Hari's Bar at Holiday Inn Golden Mile a few months back. She was with several Mongolian girlfriends. She was a little expensive for my budget at $200US and was outspoken about not touching her hair! I wouldn't repeat, but I enjoyed the experience.Hah, that brings back memories. My buddy did this girl about a year ago in Hari's. I think you overpaid. He got her for $900HK including anal. If I remember correctly, she has a very distinct voice, I think a very deep tone. He wasnt too impressed with her, but anal is always a nice find in Asia if you are into that.

Thor93

01-12-10, 00:52

since no one answered my first post i will answer it myself in the spirit of raising the knowledge level of all fellow mongerers.
this hotel only opened 3 months ago and is in one of tallest skyscrapers in kowloon. the lobby is actually on the 10th floor with rooms going up to the 24th. overall the room is really nice with all of the modern amentities - large plasma tv, walk in shower, great views of the harbor. as far as i can tell it is girl friendly although the elevators do require a key to get up to the rooms.

for my first night i decided to splurge. i had lined up a hk local girl on aff, but she wanted 2,000 hk. i talked her down to 1,800 hk and was debating whether to go ahead and overpay or not. her credentials sounded good, educated, good english, nice pictures, had a good day time job, and sounded on the phone like she was a little nymphomaniac. what put me over was she travels to the us and would be available to me there everyonce in a while.

she came over around 10. i had to go down in the lobby to collect her. she was dressed very high class and was the girl in all of the pictures she had sent. i would rate her a 7-8 on a 10 scale.

once in the room she took a shower and came out naked and the games began. i think she is a closet nymphomaniac. this girl loves to suck and fuck. we got to talking and she is playing a string of western guys, if you believe her. all i can say is that there are some fools out there.

we went for two great sessions last night that included lots of daty, bbbj, all culminating in two multiple position fucks. i am worried that i am now a bit sore myself. lots of friction applied last night - more than my poor dick has seen in a while.

my 1,800 hk got her for the full night. she is still in the bed sleeping until it is time for her to go to work at 9. she woke me up early this morning with a nice blow job that got me off, but she went right back to sleep.

so all in all while i know i overpaid a bit, i had the advantage of her coming to me, and not having the added expenses of drinking in wanchai or the cab fares going back and forth. and the big bonus might be later when she travels to the us. this is a friendship i intend to cultivate. she has already promised deep discounts for future trysts.

i have a true freebie lined up for tonight. i will see how that one goes and then decide who gets the last night in hk.

Joe Banana

01-12-10, 02:38

Hi Thor, good report, she sounds good and you get what you pay for. I wouldn't say you overpaid for what you describe.

Lustforthrust

01-12-10, 16:23

Thor93

01-12-10, 16:37

Second night in HK and I met the freebie this afternoon. I went down to the street to meet her. She was dressed in running shoes, jeans, and an old wool coat that smelled of mothballs. Overall very average looking although the body looked decent underneath - a 6-7 on a scale of 10.

But she was throwing off some bad vibrations and the mothball smell really turned me off. We went to a coffee shop and had a long conversation while I tried to make my mind up. There was no doubt she was willing to go up to the room, but I just was not feeling the attraction. After about an hour of sitting there over coffee I waved her off and put her back in a taxi to go home.

Sometimes when it isn't right, you just have to go with your gut. She was telling stories of fucking 3 guys at once and other stuff that sounded like she was into drugs. And I need a bit more flash in my women and she clearly was not showing any flash, plus her initial attitude was semi-hostile.

Her first words to me were that I was older than my picture. What was funny was that she estimated my age to be 15 years younger than I am actually am but she thought the picture made me look a lot younger. The picture was taken only a year or two ago. So I got accused of faking my age even though I had actually listed an even older age on AFF where I found her.

So I took a nice nap and now I will go out and see what other adventures might still be available tonight.

Member #4271

01-13-10, 13:53

Pita123

01-13-10, 22:05

I knew I was falling for her. So when I saw her in Laguna a few more times she would be with friends and invariably I would be with another woman or on the prowl. She knew I was a butterfly.

I kept saying we would see each other again before I left but I didn't want to because I knew I would fall for her.

I know nothing about Indonesian girls but lots about Thai girls. Like you, I like to have longer term friendships with the girls. I'd say that your mistake was not seeing her again after you told her you would. If you are going to be a butterfly in her face that is fine. But if that is the case then you need to take her again at some point after you have been IDed as a butterfly. Essentially you are not just a butterfly but a liar/joker. You led her to believe you'd spend more time with her and then didn't. There is a girl that I see in Bangkok. She calls me "Butterfly Man". She knows I butterfly but she also knows that from time to time I'll spend a night or two with her.

Chaos Theory

01-14-10, 08:34

Was in HK Sunday to Wednesday this week.

Sunday: Arrived at about 7 and went down to meet an ISG'er in Wan Chai. Unfortunately meet up didnt happen because he got waylaid by a busty indonesian girl in the Ming Court hotel. While I was waiting for him I decided to kill time in Laguana. Was packed and it was 'shift' change in that the domestic helpers were heading home and the working girls were coming in. I got lucky and met a filipina who said she was on hoilday visiting a friend. Anyway we talked for a while and her story seemed genuine. Took her to Escape and Neptune where she ordered beer not ladydrinks which also added credibilty to her story. Having a great time so took her to show her LKF. Went to cavern to listen to bands and then poppoed the question- would you like to come back to my hotel? Yes. Off we go. Next two hours were incredible. Nice face, tight body and a great time. at 2.30 she gets up and says she needs to go back to her friends house and off she goes. No money asked for or exchanged, lots of smiles, hugs and kisses. No names as not fair to her.

Still dont feel sleepy so head out again. Go to Neptune where meet a sweet little Filipina who had just arrived in HK. Bought her a drink,quick visit to Escape whereshe had never been. Back to hotel for a quick session and sleep before work. Not a freebie but very innocent and quite fun. Name is May and she can be found in Filipina corner in Neptune.

Monday: Had work commitments and went out late. Still failed to catch up with ISG'er but will do next visit. Called May and we met up again for another session.

Tuesday: Late out again because of work. Wanted a change so took a very petite Indonesian from Escape. Face so so but hot body. In end was v tired and just had a BBJCIM and sent her on her way.

Observations: Contrary to some reports I thought quaility and quantity of girls was very good. Laguana on Sunday evening was especially good and a lot of fun. Bars were quite quiet Sunday and Monday but busy Tuesday as Toy fair was in full swing. Prices - I paid for Monday LT was 1000.

Was a fun visit and already looking forward to my next one.

CT

Bob Builder

01-14-10, 09:45

Okay, I had my first Indonesian girl early in my 3 week trip.

I saw her again a few days later and went sightseeing with her and her friend and then she spent the night again.

Said she was getting a real nanny job in February.

So, every time I would say something like how wonderful she was, she'd say "we're friends" or something similar.

I knew I was falling for her. So when I saw her in Laguna a few more times she would be with friends and invariably I would be with another woman or on the prowl. She knew I was a butterfly.

I kept saying we would see each other again before I left but I didn't want to because I knew I would fall for her.

So she's still in my Facebook list but she's not answered my e-mails lately.

I just didn't understand how to navigate a situation like that. If she's a working girl, why get jealous or mad at me for being a butterfly?

I just feel like I somehow hurt her feelings without meaning to. And, as I told her, I didn't want to see her again because I knew I would fall for her.

She is wonderful and I'd at least like to be friends with her if nothing else.

How do you fall for these women but not break their hearts or yours in the process? There have been a handful I could see marrying but I'm realistic and not ready for that yet.

Obviously you know your way around.

Slap yourself in the face and stop thinking like a teenager who just popped his cherry.

Why should you be worried about what a gal thinks that works as a pro in Wanchai? It's not as if she has not been with other guys while you are not around. And realistically she may just miss your....wallet.

Do you really want to marry a hooker? What do they say abour taking the girl out of the bar or like the Chinese like to say about fussy mongers, "You are not here looking for a wife".

Unless of course she looks like Julia Roberts, but then again "Pretty Woman" was just a movie.

Member #4271

01-14-10, 11:56

Obviously you know your way around.

Slap yourself in the face and stop thinking like a teenager who just popped his cherry.

Why should you be worried about what a gal thinks that works as a pro in Wanchai? It's not as if she has not been with other guys while you are not around. And realistically she may just miss your....wallet.

Yeah, but things are different in Wanchai. It's not like marrying a hooker here. There are nice Filipino girls who don't have customers every night that would make great wives.

And, as I said, we spent time together as well which blurred the line. I think it would be easier if I did ST. The LT blurs the line especially if you hang out with the girl during the day or go to dinner or breakfast with her.

And every girl is different. The Vietnamese in Wanchai act like pros, for example.

Wanchai is not America so the idea of "marrying a hooker" doesn't sound as ridiculous there as it would -- rightly -- here.

My comfort zone tends to go to the LT GFE ones so I run the risk of walking that line constantly, I guess. But that is why I love Wanchai.

Bob Builder

01-14-10, 12:37

Yeah, but things are different in Wanchai. It's not like marrying a hooker here. There are nice Filipino girls who don't have customers every night that would make great wives.

And, as I said, we spent time together as well which blurred the line. I think it would be easier if I did ST. The LT blurs the line especially if you hang out with the girl during the day or go to dinner or breakfast with her.

And every girl is different. The Vietnamese in Wanchai act like pros, for example.

Wanchai is not America so the idea of "marrying a hooker" doesn't sound as ridiculous there as it would -- rightly -- here.

My comfort zone tends to go to the LT GFE ones so I run the risk of walking that line constantly, I guess. But that is why I love Wanchai.

I know guys who have married hookers. Just with normal women, some work out, some don't. At least the sex should be great anyway. As long as you can put up with all the wrong number phone calls to her mobile and looks from guys who pass her in the street and then smile as they remember their last GFE with her.

I used to hang out with some ABCs in Lan Kwai Fong who spent years there posing and mostly striking out with the ladies until they discovered p4p in places like Macau nightclubs when someone had a stag party. Then they would come out with lines like "She would make a great girlfriend if she was not a WG" or "I won't do this anymore when I get a girlfriend".(provided your girlfriend sucks dick well that is, LOL).

Whomer

01-14-10, 16:51

For my first night I decided to splurge. I had lined up a HK local girl on AFF, but she wanted 2,000 HK.........
I have a true freebie lined up for tonight. I will see how that one goes and then decide who gets the last night in HK.

Thor93,

thanks for your report.

What is AFF? Did I miss something?

whomer

Basah

01-14-10, 17:15

What is AFF? Did I miss something?

Asian Friend Finder

Basah

01-14-10, 17:27

I just didn't understand how to navigate a situation like that. If she's a working girl, why get jealous or mad at me for being a butterfly?

I just feel like I somehow hurt her feelings without meaning to. And, as I told her, I didn't want to see her again because I knew I would fall for her.

...

How do you fall for these women but not break their hearts or yours in the process? There have been a handful I could see marrying but I'm realistic and not ready for that yet.

My two Mao's worth ...

The Indonesians are an interesting bunch. They can be very sweet and GFE. But they are also there to maximize their gain on Sundays, unless they have somebody that they have latched on to.

Honestly, she probably knew you were here for a limited time (3 weeks I recall) and hence would not get attached. Hence, you were a potential pocketbook, even if you didn't pay.

Additionally, they have the 'Asian Pout' down to a key, and they use it to get what they are looking for, which, I think in many cases is either a) enough money to build their house back in Indonesia, or b) somebody to take them away from it all under what seems to be pretty much any circumstances.

Think you let the big head be controlled by the little head. YMMV.

Basah

Johnny Rocket

01-14-10, 18:01

She had her own place and had to work only 6 hrs a day - at least that is what she told me. I got the picture she was already moving on to a new place. One day she arranged free by agreeing to work on her day off. Must have pretty tolerant employer, too.

I have heard this before too. Some employers have small places and nowhere for their helpers to sleep, so they rent a separate small apartment (usually in a real dump of a building) for their helpers. Technically this is illegal. But the advantage for them (and us) is that they have evenings free, the employers would have no idea what the girls would do after they are sent "back home" for the evening.

Johnny Rocket

01-14-10, 18:09

sorry for my question

i read many many and many experieces of a lot of people in hk.

what about std?

people never speak of std, some of reader and some of guy who stay with girl

kept some time std in hk?

or hk is safest place in the world where never people and girls keep std?

i wish you reply to me.

thanks

gonorrhea and chlamydia are both common in hk as they are everywhere in the world. they are easily avoidable with proper condom use and if you should happen to get the burning sensation while peeing, discharge from urethra and painful sensation when rubbing up against your undies, go to any hk doctor, be honest about where you got it, and you can get a shot (in the butt) and a course of antibiotics which will take care of the problem within 5 days.

aids, herpes and syphilis are rarer. once again condom use is key.

there should be no problem with daty, it's almost impossible to contract an std in this fashion.

Johnny Rocket

01-14-10, 18:17

Johnny Rocket

01-14-10, 18:25

There's plenty on craigs that will put out for free; yes, it shocks me too that HKers will do this on the 1st date! I write well but never send a picture, so that rules out more than 80%, but you may have better luck.
I see a lot of weekend fuckers; pudgy middle-aged white guys with short or pudgy or middle-aged HKers. With Filipinas & Indos, I'm like Ray Charles, I see none of those, but there must be a lot of those too.

There's the logistics chic on craig's again, can't believe how freaking ugly she is. It was hard enough for me to do her back when I did her, only thing that kept me going was the seduction part (she wanted to do a massage for 600 and I was gunning to cum in her for 1,000). She also smelt pretty bad, the Herbal Essence in her hair didn't disguise her funk.
Those of you that know of me, know that I go by smell ;)
I think the average Joe (if you are a smoker, forget it) gets a whiff of Shenzhen when you cross the border at Lowu. For me, it is like that all the time, I used to drive by smell in LA in the old, pre GPS days.

At least you got to do her, I paid her 1000 for a terrible "massage" and could get no further. She sent me the exact same picture you posted, if a girl sends you a picture that is (supposed to be) sexy, wouldn't you get the impression that more is available? I am so fucking angry and feel ripped off... as if anyone should pay 1000 for a massage (only) when you can get a great one for 300. I ordered her out even though I hadn't finished my 2 hours, once it became clear that nothing further was going to happen I told her to get the fuck out. I also considered not paying her but I didn't want to be that much of an asshole so I tossed her the thousand and told her "there, you got your money, congratulations you ripped me off, get teh fuck out of here and never contact me again." Plus she did something strange to my neck and now I have a terrible headache.

She goes by "Cherry" among possibly other names. If anyone ever communicates with the girl in Lustforthrust's picture, BEWARE, she is a scammer who thinks she is really a legit masseuse... I guess the best scammers are those who don't even know they are scammers. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM HER!

Johnny Rocket

01-14-10, 18:29

Okay, I had my first Indonesian girl early in my 3 week trip.

I saw her again a few days later and went sightseeing with her and her friend and then she spent the night again.

Said she was getting a real nanny job in February.

So, every time I would say something like how wonderful she was, she'd say "we're friends" or something similar.

I knew I was falling for her. So when I saw her in Laguna a few more times she would be with friends and invariably I would be with another woman or on the prowl. She knew I was a butterfly.

I kept saying we would see each other again before I left but I didn't want to because I knew I would fall for her.

So she's still in my Facebook list but she's not answered my e-mails lately.

I just didn't understand how to navigate a situation like that. If she's a working girl, why get jealous or mad at me for being a butterfly?

I just feel like I somehow hurt her feelings without meaning to. And, as I told her, I didn't want to see her again because I knew I would fall for her.

She is wonderful and I'd at least like to be friends with her if nothing else.

How do you fall for these women but not break their hearts or yours in the process? There have been a handful I could see marrying but I'm realistic and not ready for that yet.

The solution is don't fall for them. What exactly about them are you falling for? Remember they will be sugar sweet when trying to reel you in, once you are hooked they're as bad as any of them. Why do you want to be friends with her? Who gives a fuck if she's upset with you? She fucks for money, which means the men she fucks will pay women money to fuck them. Does she expect she was your first and will also be your last?

Plus Indos and Flippers get old and fat quickly after having kids, at least the Chinese try to stay in shape.

Applesauce

01-15-10, 01:47

My comfort zone tends to go to the LT GFE ones so I run the risk of walking that line constantly, I guess. But that is why I love Wanchai.From your posts, it seems like you either easily fall in love, or are looking for love.

In an earlier post, you talked about not wanting to break an Indonesian girl's heart, but actually in your entire description of the event it seemed like she was completely neutral without making any overtures towards you and it was you who was falling for her since you were sending her all those emails.

You've also said in several posts how a lot of Wan Chai girls would make great wives. Just how many wives do you want? You seem to be falling for a lot of women very quickly if you're already considering several different ones, albeit at different times, to be wife-worthy. Usually when a person falls in love and wants to get married, they have only one person in mind.

This isn't criticism, it's just that to me it looks like you open your heart and fall in love quite easily and quickly.

Lustforthrust

01-15-10, 02:11

At least you got to do her, I paid her 1000 for a terrible "massage" and could get no further. She sent me the exact same picture you posted, if a girl sends you a picture that is (supposed to be) sexy, wouldn't you get the impression that more is available? I am so fucking angry and feel ripped off... as if anyone should pay 1000 for a massage (only) when you can get a great one for 300. I ordered her out even though I hadn't finished my 2 hours, once it became clear that nothing further was going to happen I told her to get the fuck out. I also considered not paying her but I didn't want to be that much of an asshole so I tossed her the thousand and told her "there, you got your money, congratulations you ripped me off, get teh fuck out of here and never contact me again." Plus she did something strange to my neck and now I have a terrible headache.

She goes by "Cherry" among possibly other names. If anyone ever communicates with the girl in Lustforthrust's picture, BEWARE, she is a scammer who thinks she is really a legit masseuse... I guess the best scammers are those who don't even know they are scammers. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM HER!

Johnny,

How many years have you been in HK? You know most HKers are bullies, right? When you gave her 1,000 you looked like a putz; if you gave her 200 and told her to take public transport (millionaires in HK do and she's not), she'd have some respect for you.

Her massage is 600, you offer a 1,000 for an oil massage (her naked body sliding against yours) and take her (bullies are easily bullied). You are not interested in her "600hkd for hour" massage!

She's ugly, I wouldn't be interested in her at all and she ordered the most expensive drink when we first met. I resolved to make her earn it, that was my only motivation, my hard on.
And she smelt bad! I stuck a creamed finger up her ass. I would have done that too, but was afraid of seeing her sh1t on the condom when I pulled put.

She's probably gone cold now. If she does surface in a month when her gambling/Lunar NY shopping getS the better of her, remember she's out to get your money by doing as little as possible. If you get thrills from giving her a taste of her own, then go for it.

Johnny Rocket

01-15-10, 04:21

johnny,

how many years have you been in hk? you know most hkers are bullies, right? when you gave her 1,000 you looked like a putz; if you gave her 200 and told her to take public transport (millionaires in hk do and she's not), she'd have some respect for you.

her massage is 600, you offer a 1,000 for an oil massage (her naked body sliding against yours) and take her (bullies are easily bullied). you are not interested in her "600hkd for hour" massage!

she's ugly, i wouldn't be interested in her at all and she ordered the most expensive drink when we first met. i resolved to make her earn it, that was my only motivation, my hard on.
and she smelt bad! i stuck a creamed finger up her ass. i would have done that too, but was afraid of seeing her sh1t on the condom when i pulled put.

she's probably gone cold now. if she does surface in a month when her gambling/lunar ny shopping gets the better of her, remember she's out to get your money by doing as little as possible. if you get thrills from giving her a taste of her own, then go for it.

by "take her" what do you mean? i am not going to do anything without her consent. bullying is one thing, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is another (not saying you raped her, don't misunderstand me).

i'm not interested in her at all, now i'm just pissed and want to make her pay. i want to hate-fuck her smack her around and tear her asshole apart with my cock.

you are absolutely right i looked like a putz and i should not have given her any money at all. i've been here long enough to know better but i wasn't dealing with a girl in wan chai, i just wasn't in that frame of mind and made a huge mistake.

how do you know she gambles?

Gregp

01-15-10, 07:08

AFF can mean, as stated, Asian Friend Finder, but can also mean Adult Friend Finder (swinger site) Both are owned by the same company. AFF (2) is no holds barred, everyone is there for same purpose. I have used to connect all over the world and dozens of times here in the states. Especially for asia you will find some pros or semi-pros listed there. Asia Friend Finder on other hand seems to have mostly lady's just looking for a guy. I have had two long term actual relationships + great sex, from ladies I have met there.

Both great hunting grounds.

Lexingtonsteel

01-15-10, 07:42

thank you very much johnny rocket,

i have other personals questions,

i read some pages of this forum, but i never read forun where people say to be safe with some girl becuae after cbj they take std.

my question is do you never take std to go with girl?

cbj is safe?

there is some place where girl are most safe

indonesia gilr are safe?

thai girl are safe?

filipina girl are safe?

please give me a prompt reply

thanks

gonorrhea and chlamydia are both common in hk as they are everywhere in the world. they are easily avoidable with proper condom use and if you should happen to get the burning sensation while peeing, discharge from urethra and painful sensation when rubbing up against your undies, go to any hk doctor, be honest about where you got it, and you can get a shot (in the butt) and a course of antibiotics which will take care of the problem within 5 days.

aids, herpes and syphilis are rarer. once again condom use is key.

there should be no problem with daty, it's almost impossible to contract an std in this fashion.

Uncle Goober

01-15-10, 10:07

Thank you very much Johnny Rocket,

I have other personals questions,

I read some pages of this forum, but I never read forun where people say to be safe with some girl becuae after CBJ they take std.

My question is do you never take std to go with girl?

CBJ is safe?

There is some place where girl are most safe

Indonesia gilr are safe?

Thai girl are safe?

Filipina girl are safe?

Please give me a prompt reply

Thanks

I smell a troll, gentlemen, but giving him one last benefit of the doubt ...

Use a condom for everything and you have almost zero to worry about as regards STDs. Problem solved.

If you wish to try a BBBJ, then you are taking a risk. You could catch any number of STDs. Some are prepared to take the risk, others are not.

There is no generalised answer that can be given about whether some nationalities are "safer" than others. The solution to your stated concern ... always use a condom.

Cheers.

Bob Builder

01-15-10, 12:10

I smell a troll, gentlemen, but giving him one last benefit of the doubt ...

Use a condom for everything and you have almost zero to worry about as regards STDs. Problem solved.

If you wish to try a BBBJ, then you are taking a risk. You could catch any number of STDs. Some are prepared to take the risk, others are not.

There is no generalised answer that can be given about whether some nationalities are "safer" than others. The solution to your stated concern ... always use a condom.

Cheers.

Troll? Asking these types of questions, he sounds more like a fecking Retard!

Lustforthrust

01-15-10, 17:00

My 1,800 HK got her for the full night.

Sounds like a popular number. Here's another craigslister with the same quote.

Uncle Goober

01-16-10, 03:23

Troll? Asking these types of questions, he sounds more like a fecking Retard!

Agreed, Bob.

Lexingtonsteel is a retarded troll.

(Apologies, Jackson, but Lexingtonsteel's posts are begging to be attacked ... thus I smell a troll.)

Cheers

Member #4698

01-16-10, 05:08

I am familiar with the 141 hotel reservation girls and have used their ST services a few times in the past. A lot of these girls indicate on the web site that they are "negotiable for overnight." For the most part my ST experience has been good and I think an overnight session with the right girl could be infinitely better. My plan therefore, is to meet up with a 141 hottie or two and have a ST tryst. If she is nice and we have a good time, then I will bring up the idea of an overnighter at my hotel.

I know what the LT rate is for Wanchai Filipina bar girls and so I wonder what the LT rate is for Tsim Sha Tsui 141 Chinese mainland girls that ask 700-800hk for ST services. 2000hk?

Bob Builder

01-16-10, 18:50

Thank you very much Johnny Rocket,

I have other personals questions,

I read some pages of this forum, but I never read forun where people say to be safe with some girl becuae after CBJ they take std.

My question is do you never take std to go with girl?

CBJ is safe?

There is some place where girl are most safe

Indonesia gilr are safe?

Thai girl are safe?

Filipina girl are safe?

Please give me a prompt reply

Thanks

I always take std when I have a girl and when you take 1 std, it doesn't matter if you take another so then you do not have to CBJ. The more you take to others, the less you will have and its better to share than keeping things to yourself.

Crazy Jim Wood

01-17-10, 03:40

i have often wondered about this, although i guess i was thinking overnight in her place, not only for sex, but also to save on the hotel.
i have also heard one can stay in some of the saunas pretty much 24 hours, although i guess you would have to sleep in the lounge chairs out in a room where people come and go.
i guess it would be kind of like staying at the y lol.
be interested to hear if anyone has tried either route.

I am familiar with the 141 hotel reservation girls and have used their ST services a few times in the past. A lot of these girls indicate on the web site that they are "negotiable for overnight." For the most part my ST experience has been good and I think an overnight session with the right girl could be infinitely better. My plan therefore, is to meet up with a 141 hottie or two and have a ST tryst. If she is nice and we have a good time, then I will bring up the idea of an overnighter at my hotel.

I know what the LT rate is for Wanchai Filipina bar girls and so I wonder what the LT rate is for Tsim Sha Tsui 141 Chinese mainland girls that ask 700-800hk for ST services. 2000hk?

Thor93

01-17-10, 04:06

It was my last night in HK and I decided to head over to Wanchai to see what might be available after deciding to pass on my AFF girl from the first night. Even though I had a standing offer from her for only $1000HK, I was more interested in seeing other options.

Wanchai was busy and in truth there were lots of options. I floated between Neptune II, Laguna, and whatever they call the old Fenwicks. Neptune had the the best selection. They were all looking for at least $2000HK but could be talked down. I just did not see anything though that moved me.

I took a cab back to Kowloon just after 2am and got dropped off at Spicy Fingers. There was nothing going on in there, so I started walking back to my hotel. And as usual I got accosted by the older Chinese women that offer a massage. They all also wanted $2000HK but the price kept dropping as I kept walking.

One particular persistent one kept going with me and finally offered herself up for $1000HK. I decided to be brutally honest and told her she was too old, so she immediately offered up a younger Chinese girl. I was skeptical and told her I really did not want to spend much money that night. She asked what it would take, so I said $500Hk and it had to be a good looking younger girl.

She gets on the phone and says the girl will be there in a few minutes. I got to talking with her and asked where the girl was coming from. She said she was a mainland girl working the hotels, probably a 141 girl that had no business that night.

Sure enough a few minutes later, a really nice looking young Chinese girl shows up. I said ok and we walked to the hotel.

In the room she immediately strips down but wants her $500HK up front. I give and off to the shower we go. She does a good job cleaning me up and then off to the bed. She does a decent CBJ, allows some kissing, and lots of touching. We do the deed in a couple of different positions and it is not bad at all . After the deed she cuddles with me for a bit and then makes a pitch to stay overnight for a bit more, but I don't feel like entertaining her in the morning.

I give her a $100HK tip and she happily goes back off into the night. All in all it was a nice end to the evening and does prove if you hold your ground you can still find a decent bargain even in HK.

Applesauce

01-17-10, 21:56

Generally, an overnight with a hotel reservation girl is their usual rate + cab fare. It's essentially an outcall to your place.

The common thing among experienced HK punters is that you don't take a hotel girl for an overnighter because the service isn't going to be any better, and it's still most likely going to be a one shot deal (and then to sleep). You're just getting the added thing of sleeping (literally) with a girl next to you. If you want an overnighter with sex multiple times that night and again in the morning, a Wan Chai freelancer is your best bet.

BTW, 141 just refers to an HK site that advertises girls. Hotel girls, or any working girls, aren't called "141 girls."

I am familiar with the 141 hotel reservation girls and have used their ST services a few times in the past. A lot of these girls indicate on the web site that they are "negotiable for overnight." For the most part my ST experience has been good and I think an overnight session with the right girl could be infinitely better. My plan therefore, is to meet up with a 141 hottie or two and have a ST tryst. If she is nice and we have a good time, then I will bring up the idea of an overnighter at my hotel.

Peter Eastwest

01-18-10, 17:30

I did stay in HK recent and went to "NewFenwick" and Laguna and Neptune and J Banana tolook for companies onfirst night

I met some very good=loking gals but all too expensice asking 2000 and coming down to 1200 or 1300. Still too much because I was going on to Shenxhen and Chongqing so I was saving money.

Then I met gal in New Fenwick - what is the new name? She was Flipper and very pretty at 22 YO. We agreed short for 750 and taxi so went hotel and had shower, various positions over 2 hours and then she say she want to stay because sharing room with 6 girls and two of them snored.....so preferred to stay with me in nice hotel.

I had being nice to her and very connected so it was fine. In morning she gave me farrewell Blow-Job and asked for $50 for taxi. All in all a very good experience from a friendly girl with nice attitude. Will defintley see her again in March.

Haha - Later she said better to go back in her room with two snoring girls because my snoring louder than the two. Good humour!

On next night I went to 37 Dundas and got excellent service with wet massage on air mattress in big shower room with lots of BBBJ in shower and onmassage bed.

After that we dried and she gave me good massage with more BBBJ on bed so we finished BBBJ CIM with no objection.

Girl was 25 and mainland china called Lucy. Very slip with small boobs. The first two theyoffer me were older and one was qquet fat so I rejecet these and they bring Lucy. nice!

Recommend 37 Dundas and Lucy very much/

Standard price. Excellend services

Pi9ctures of Flippy girl on Foto Galerie

PE

Member #4698

01-19-10, 06:32

The common thing among experienced HK punters is that you don't take a hotel girl for an overnighter because the service isn't going to be any better, and it's still most likely going to be a one shot deal (and then to sleep). You're just getting the added thing of sleeping (literally) with a girl next to you. If you want an overnighter with sex multiple times that night and again in the morning, a Wan Chai freelancer is your best bet.Thanks for the advice A. I will keep it in mind during negotiations and make it clear that multiple shots will be on the menu for an overnighter. I have a preference for Chinese girls, so I have to give it a try.

It will be interesting to see what the response will be. I will report back my results. The worst case scenario is I will have to settle for a sexy Wanchai Filipina overnight. What a fallback position. That’s why I dig HKG.

AsnDragon

01-20-10, 11:38

johnny,

i gotta agree with most of what you said about catching std's. but not being able to catch stds for daty is not true. herpes is one major std. once you got herpes...you got it for life.

not sure if you are a doctor, but does the smell of the woman's pussy have any correlation to her having any diseases? because i've smelled pussy's that are just horrendously bad...so bad that i could not even finish the session because the putrid smell permeated throughout the whole room, made my want to throw up.

asndragon

gonorrhea and chlamydia are both common in hk as they are everywhere in the world. they are easily avoidable with proper condom use and if you should happen to get the burning sensation while peeing, discharge from urethra and painful sensation when rubbing up against your undies, go to any hk doctor, be honest about where you got it, and you can get a shot (in the butt) and a course of antibiotics which will take care of the problem within 5 days.

aids, herpes and syphilis are rarer. once again condom use is key.

there should be no problem with daty, it's almost impossible to contract an std in this fashion.

Kobe Beef

01-20-10, 15:25

gonorrhea and chlamydia are both common in hk as they are everywhere in the world. they are easily avoidable with proper condom use and if you should happen to get the burning sensation while peeing, discharge from urethra and painful sensation when rubbing up against your undies, go to any hk doctor, be honest about where you got it, and you can get a shot (in the butt) and a course of antibiotics which will take care of the problem within 5 days.

aids, herpes and syphilis are rarer. once again condom use is key.

there should be no problem with daty, it's almost impossible to contract an std in this fashion.thanks for the advice a. i will keep it in mind during negotiations and make it clear that multiple shots will be on the menu for an overnighter. i have a preference for hk doctors, so i have to give it a try.

Member #4698

01-21-10, 06:37

Thanks for the advice A. I will keep it in mind during negotiations and make it clear that multiple shots will be on the menu for an overnighter. I have a preference for HK doctors, so I have to give it a try.Hey this looks familiar. Oh yeah, I posted the exact lines except for a few key words 9 hours earlier.

Thanks for the advice A. I will keep it in mind during negotiations and make it clear that multiple shots will be on the menu for an overnighter. I have a preference for Chinese girls, so I have to give it a try.I guess it is true: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

Thanks KoB.

Tony Toro

01-21-10, 11:14

Hit Escape and Neptune II Tuesday night.

Escape around 9pm: around 20. 25 WG's and approx a dozen guys. Clearly too early to get a real feel however I can say the make over (from the Fenwicks days) is good, band good, stage area looks great.

I should add there were some absolute gorgeous women there, some real stunners and so if you were living near by, an early exit may get you a good deal for a ST with a real honey.

If you haven't been to Escape, it is the old Fenwicks, a map to all the Wan Chai bars is in the map section. Entry is now off Jaffe Road (what was the back door of Fenwicks).

Joe Bananas: Stuck my head in quickly around 10pm. It was FULL but mainly guys. No prizes for guessing where these guys were headed later on.

Neptune II: arrived around 10: 15pm, around 5 girls for every guy, however that was about to change. They still allow people to smoke in Neptunes, not "officially" but they just ignore it. Not good since I quit already!

Good cross section of Thai, Fils (the usuals) Cambodia, Vietnam, a couple of Chinese but NO African girls. Opening offers started at HK$2K but quickly dropped to $800. $1, 000 for ST. Quality vs price quite good.

I was only in Wan Chai because I had a late meeting, so at around 11:30pm I headed back to Kowloon and Hari's Bar at the Holiday Inn. Again. NO African girls which I have since been told relates to a crack down on VISAS which is good because the large numbers that were standing around outside all the time was making things a little uncomfortable especially for the guys trying to sell suits and fake watches LOL.

In the end I was so tired I bailed and have now decided to invest my saved resources into something really special from Korea or Japan. More on that later.

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Seoulstice

01-21-10, 15:15

Johnny Rocket

01-21-10, 17:20

You're correct Dragon. However you should always look for any sign of infection or sores before DATY. This is not 100% effective as herpes can be passed even when asymptomatic. But the chances are much lower. And as with all STDs, it's easier to pass from men to women than from women to men.

Johnny,

I gotta agree with most of what you said about catching STD's. But not being able to catch STDs for DATY is not true. Herpes is one major STD. Once you got herpes...you got it for life.

Not sure if you are a doctor, but does the smell of the woman's pussy have any correlation to her having any diseases? Because I've smelled Pussy's that are just horrendously bad...so bad that I could not even finish the session because the putrid smell permeated throughout the whole room, made my want to throw up.

AsnDragon

John Lee

01-21-10, 19:03

Hi, Tony Toro:

can you share your experience and tell us about how you know Kathy in the first place? Is she a WG?

Tony Toro

01-22-10, 00:51

Yes Kathy is a WG. I met her while walking to Hari's Bar a couple of years ago. We were both on our way there.

Kobe Beef

01-22-10, 21:01

Smokin gals smokin.

Has anyone ever considered what would happen if a fire broke out down there on a crowded night?

Bob Builder

01-23-10, 01:02

"There should be no problem with DATY, it's almost impossible to contract an STD in this fashion."

Whoa! Very naive statement there. On two occasions I've gotten a nasty super strain of chlamydia from DATY. Both wasted no time migrating into the soft tissues of my eyes.

Imagine a filmy bacterial puss colonizing your eyeballs and rapidly glazing over your retinas. It was scary. In the first invasion, by day five, I could see nothing but murk and shadows. By day four, the emissions sealed my eyelashes shut and required rinsing under tap water to flush the puss off and get my eyeids open.

Diner beware - YMMVSolved easily by antibiotic cream. If you have your fingers in a gal, remember to wash your hands in the morning before rubbing the sleep out of your eyes.

Your mouth is like a woman's pussy, a nice wet warm place for bacteria and viruses to grow and unless you are looking at the pussy with a microscope you are not going to see all the bugs.

JohnThomas0519

01-23-10, 10:41

Greetings Gentlemen,

With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).

Thanks,

Jackson

Luvpuss

01-24-10, 02:50

Sorry to make this my first post. I have tried the search option and it does not appear to be user friendly. May be my illerate computer skills.

I am coming to WC next month for a week and would like to find a mid range hotel near the action. GF of course. In looking at some of the posts, the Empire and Cosmopolitan are mentioned. What would you guys suggest?

TRhanks

Tony Toro

01-24-10, 12:40

I arrived at Hari's Bar in TST around 8:30 Friday night. Way too early for the fun to begin, but I was well and truly relaxed, I had arranged to meet my long time Korean friend, Suki, have some food, a few drinks, dig the music and then head on up to my room.

It is always a surprise at Hari's, the early crowd starts to leave and around 9 the late crowd and the prime time band (ie. 3 cute Filipina girls plus a drummer, guitar and organ) starts to file in.

By 11pm the place is thumping, Friday is best night of the week at Hari's no doubt, big crowd, lots of punters, great music and heaps of WG's from all over the world.

By arriving early I have a great spot where I can watch the action unfold and enjoy the music while waiting for Suki.

Suki arrives just after 10 and is looking fine in Ferragamo shoes (the tell tail sign you are looking at a Korean girl), tight denim jeans and a leather jacket, blood red lipstick, stacks of eye makeup and long pumped up eye lashes, JUST how I like it.

She gives me her standard "family update", tells me how cold it's been and asks about my business. We met around 18 months ago. She comes to HK 3. 4 times a year. Each stay around 10. 14 days. She's hungry so I arrange a little food, 6 beers and 2 red wines between us and it's time to leave. I guess it's 11:30.

I explain that I am going to the wash room, she should wait for 2 minutes then meet me at the elevator so we can go up to our room together. I do what I need to do and as I walk out of the "gents" the lovely Suki is waiting for me faking a call on her mobile phone so she doesn't get hassled by other punters while she's waiting. One press of the elevator button and up we go.

On arriving to my room, she tells me she's still hungry! Korean girls act like they eat like birds in public, but hell. They eat like buffalo behind closed doors! Amazing, and they don't get fat!

So a quick call to room service, beef kebabs (of course), then a glass of red from the mini bar (Korean girls can really drink! They like to act drunk but they CAN drink) and we lie on the bed together (clothed) waiting for the food to arrive. Channel surfing, she stops at a National Geographic doco about lions, we chat about life in general, I am holding her in my arms as we lie on the bed together.

Room service arrives and she quickly hides in the bathroom while I answer the door. I carefully arrange the coffee table to fit the food and she comes out of the bathroom. NUDE. I tell ya, I love this chick, she has such quirky habits. She loves to just walk around the room NUDE!

I have a quick shower while Suki eats, then as I come out, she has a shower and gives her teeth a thorough brush. Out she comes in a crisp white towel, she walks to the bed and lets the towel fall as she hops in and cuddles up next to me. Next step, she gives me a prolonged hug before initiating some LFK that quickly moves forward to DFK. Suddenly she stops looks at me and says "I stop smoking, can you tell? " with a big smile. I said yes of course but the fact is it was the furthest thing from my mind.

Suki slowly slides down now and starts licking my nuts, then slowly sliding up my shaft before what would be a solid 15 minute BBBJ. She looks at me during the act, stopping to smile and give me that ultra cute Korean / Japanese AV style "wink". Drives me wild.

She can sense me coming several times and adjusts the pressure to hold me back (very skillful!). Up she jumps and into the bathroom where she "hoyks" up a little of my pre cum, returning moments later to lie on top of me. I place my hands on her ass as she slowly spreads her legs and whispers "please no condom". I admit it definately crosses my mind but I just can't do it.

So, cap on we start in CG, she then swings around facing opposite before jumping into a squat for a reverse frogga. I use the op to move into doggy which I really enjoy with Suki, such a fine body I just love watching her from behind. We finish in Mish and I cum with great delight! As I slump a little on top of her, she puts her hands on my shoulders and shakes me. I ask what's wrong and she says "I no cum yet, keep going". I keep going for a couple of minutes but I am "going down" so it's all over. She takes off my condom, holds it in her finger tips and kisses the end that is hanging down full of my cum. I ask her why and she says she is "kissing her baby". Yikes!

Off she goes to the bathroom and returns a few minutes later. We sleep for a few hours, then around 3 she makes the mistake of bumping me while getting up to go to the toilet. I am waiting for her when she returns and we start another session. This time Suki is straight into the BBBJ. She swings her body around slapping her pussy onto my face. I am so tempted to DATY but unfortunately I just can't do it and so use my fingers to make my intensions clear.

I CIM this time and we go back to sleep.

Around 10am we wake for another session, this time at completion she assures me she "came" and "collapses" on the bad afterwards taking slow deep breaths. I am also quite exhausted by this stage so we dose off to sleep. It seems like I blinked and suddenly it's 12:30pm. I jump up and hop into the shower, I shave and dress. I look at my bed and she is lying there naked smiling. I pay her and she offers to hand the money back saying "I don't need your money". I know this part is not sincere and say that I know that but I want her to keep it anyway. She smiles and efficiently slides the cash into her wallet. She doesn't want "some" of my money. She wants all of it.

She dresses and we head down stairs together. Before we go our separate ways, I ask her when she will be back? She says mid March. She will go Hari's as usual. Not sure if I will be back to HK then so I ask her to KEEP THE SAME HK MOBILE NUMBER to which she just smiles. She never does. I will just hope I can get back mid March.

Suki is 5' 6"

Beautiful white skin

Jet black AV model hair cut

A great body, see cup titties

In HK until Jan 26.

Next trip to HK mid March.

Hangs around the back wall at Hari's Bar.

For my personal taste, stunning, a great time.

My cost for the above HK$2, 500 which I realise is not cheap but fact is, for me she is the ultimate GFE so what the hell.

Would I retry? Damn hope so! 10/10.

Korean girls are my favorites so if you have not yet tried one, I really recommend. There are some stunners on the 141 web site right now who I hope to revisit when I'm back to HK next month.

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Member #4698

01-24-10, 20:09

I arrived at Hari's Bar in TST ... meet my long time Korean friend, Suki, have some food, a few drinks, dig the music and then head on up to my room....
By 11pm the place is thumping, Friday is best night of the week at Hari's no doubt, big crowd, lots of punters, great music and heaps of WG's from all over the world.

Suki is 5' 6", Beautiful white skin, Jet black AV model hair cut,
A great body, see cup titties, In HK until Jan 26, Hangs around the back wall at Hari's Bar.

For my personal taste, stunning, a great time.

My cost for the above HK$2, 500 which I realise is not cheap but fact is, for me she is the ultimate GFE so what the hell.

Would I retry? Damn hope so! 10/10.

Korean girls are my favorites so if you have not yet tried one, I really recommend. There are some stunners on the 141 web site right now who I hope to revisit when I'm back to HK next month.Great report T.T. The Korean and Japanese girls always ask for more money. Are they worth it is a matter of personal taste. Sure sounds like Suki was. Let's face it; HKG is not a cheap town. The quality is there, but expect to pay up for it. IMHO.

I empathize with your decision not to go bareback. Sometimes it is really hard to go that way, but in the long run, it is the sound decision. IMHO.

Hari's is the bar to check out in TST. I arrive in town in one week at around 7:30pm after a grueling 20 hour flight. I figure it will take 2 hours to get through customs, taxi to town and finally get checked into my hotel on Nathan. Then, running on pure adrenaline, I will head out into the night, grab a bite to eat, and walk over to Hari's. Night number one looks promising.

There are some stunners on the 141 site. Like I said, the Korean and Japanese girls command a considerable premium. I think I will start with some hot Chinese mainland girls first in the 700 to 900hk price range. All things being equal I would prefer a girl who she speaks some English. English is not mandatory in my book, but I think it helps in turning the situation into a GFE, if at all possible.

I have noticed a high proportion of Korean and Japanese girls on the 141 site speak English. And since I have never had sex with girls of either nationality, I can say I am definitely tempted. We will have to see how it goes.

So once again, great report, stay thirsty.

Kobe Beef

01-25-10, 02:49

I was recently at the Dundas Street establishment. In addition to the usual shower, the girl made a point of thoroughly checking my hardware, offering up listerine pre-action and using a disinfectant during the shower. She was able to do this without interupting the ambiance of the moment. I found this modus operandi to be most reassuring with regard to potential STD risk.

Once she finished her hygenic algorithm, she was totally uninhibited and let loose completely!

The first sign of a good auto mechanic is a nice clean shop. Ditto for the ladies.

Tony Toro

01-25-10, 06:44

I arrive in town in one week at around 7:30pm after a grueling 20 hour flight. I figure it will take 2 hours to get through customs, taxi to town and finally get checked into my hotel on Nathan. Then, running on pure adrenaline, I will head out into the night, grab a bite to eat, and walk over to Hari's. Dont waste a second! and do your best to be there for a Friday as well.

If you like Korea, consider Mongolia as well. Common right now at Hari's. Similar face to Koreans, speak great English, understand your jokes and love to F*CK as much as we do. They can often ride horses so great if you enjoy CG. Expect them to ask for HK$2000 but refuse, they will usually try and negotiate (one of the benefits of speaking good English) then settle for $1000 for a 2 hour party.

Steve 99

01-27-10, 00:54

Korean girls are my favorites so if you have not yet tried one, I really recommend. There are some stunners on the 141 web site right now who I hope to revisit when I'm back to HK next month. ]]]Korean Girls...

You must not be American. Anyone who is american and a fan of AMPs knows them well. I just would never go to HK for them.

Most of the them are very cold businesslilke. I remember reading on a PI board. Koreans girls are souless. Anyway I have run into some real fun ones in the US AMPs but that is 1 out of every 5 or so. Maybe the HK Koreans are different so don't take it as a bash.

Thanks for report.

Undercoverh

01-27-10, 03:39

This is HK, not Indonesia or the Phlippines. Can we please talk more about the local girls?

I for one don't wan't to keep talking about these darker asians, many of which are not even really attractive or hos. Its a bit funny that you guys consider their Sunday gtg haunts as "hunting grounds. " Its their time off, and I don't really think that they want to be spending it with a horndog gringo.

I agree with your comments! HK has 6,000,000+ folks of which at least 90% are Chinese. However, the HK posting here are mostly about Flips and Indos from the expensive tourist bars. Also, for all the years I have lived in HK (going on 13 years now), I will never understand why guys will pay HK$1,000 or more for Flip and Indo girls when they come to HK??? For those of you who do not know, Flip girls cost around HK$100 to HK$400 in the Philippines.
And here is another fact, local HK guys would never pay HK$1,000 to have sex with a flip or indo. Why, because it is way overpriced.

Years ago on this sight, the guys who posted wrote about finding new sex outlets for Chinese girls in HK. Back then, we visited saunas, SW, OK clubs, 141s in all parts of HK, etc., meet local HK ladies, and wrote about it. It was all about having a new adventure and writing about it. Sad to say, those guys who did those write ups have moved on. The current postings are about the same-o-same
(flip girls, indo girls, Joe B. club Fenwicks, etc). For guys who want something more then the usual posting, know that there is a lot more to the HK sex scene then what is posted here. For example, what about:

109-113 Portland in Yau Ma Tei. A high rise building full of outlets for sex, massage, OK bars, etc. Or, what about the tons of small regular massage outlets in Kowloon where many times I have had a nice GFE (e.g., the sweet Chinese massage girls has taken me up on my offer to come back to my service apartment later that night for a true GFE at very little money). Or, how to meet a local regular HK girl. The list goes on. My point is, for those new guys who come to this HK sight, do not make the mistake of thinking all there is to the HK sex scene is overpriced Flip and Indo girls from the tourist bars on HK island. My advice, get out and explore and come back a write about your new adventure.

And one other important point. I have not seen much talk on this sight about meeting regular local HK ladies. Take the bus, take the HK train, walk any busy street and you will see millions of HK ladies. Lots are single and available. Yap, available -- but never any discussion about it here. Many guys will appreciate meeting a local HK lady and making a connection, enjoying dinner, and FREE sex. The real GFE.

Many guys come to HK and see HK ladies that never smile, always in a rush, and think HK ladies are cold and are not interested in guys from another country. Well, the is not true. You have to understand HK women. Once you understand them, you will enter a wonderful world the HK Chinese women. The best sex I have had in HK has not been from the pay-for-play ladies, but from regular, local, HK ladies where no money exchanged hands.

My current local HK girlfriend, I first saw her in the new Burger King on Nathan road in Yau Ma Tei. I sat down at a small table and she was sitting at the next table with her friend. I DID MY STANDARD APPROACH TO MEETING HK GIRLS IN PUBLIC PLACES WHICH WORKS ABOUT 20% OF THE TIME. To make a long story short, this 35 yo (I am 49), who works for HSBC, was conservative and nice looking on the outside but hot and sexy in the bedroom. Just by kissing her, she would get wet -- WOW!

Understand this simple fact, many HK guys (even when they are married) get sex on a regular basis form the OK bars, 141s, saunas, etc. Therefore, they tend not to chase regular HK women or pay much attention to them. Don't believe me....the next time you are on the HK train or walking down the street, check and see how many HK guys are checking out local HK women. You will find that most HK guys will not pay attention to HK girls walking by. Compare this to America, for example, if a nice looking Chinese girl walks down the street in a major city, lots of American guys are making an effort to look. HK guys will rarely turn their head as a nice looking local HK girl walks by.
Or, how many times have you seen a HK guy open the door for a women -- rare to never.

My point is, the fact that HK guys do not pay lots attention to HK ladies leaves a lot of HK ladies wanting a man -- and that's where you come in! Be sweet, nice, caring, sincere (act as if you are sincere even if you are not), and romantic with a local regular HK Chinese women and you will have the best GFE for FREE!

Also, here is another simple fact, most regular HK women are not interested in men that appear to be poor. Don't get me wrong, they are not looking (some are- but most are not) for a rich guy. They just want someone that dress nice, well groomed, a nice guy, and appears to have a regular source of income. Bare in mind, you can act the part regarding income, it is all about how well you dress and carry yourself.

What is my approach to meeting local HK girls, aside from what I have stated above, it is all really very simple. It comes down to eye contact and smiling. Bare in mind, most HK guys never pay attention to HK girls, much less smile at them. The HK girl will be surprised she has received a smile from a man that seems nice, dress nicely, friendly, and appears to have a good job.

Where do I meet regular local HK ladies, any place the opportunity presents itself...on the train, at a fast food outlet, waiting for the bus, etc. For example, my current girlfriend, the one sitting at Burger King, I looked at her and when she noticed I was looking at her I gave a little friendly smile. We exchanged looks and smiles over the next 10 minutes and I went along with the flow of the moment. She told me something that I did not understand and made a motion with her hand. She was trying to tell me I had mustard on my lips, we both laughed and I thanked her for telling me and then we talked a little small talk. When her friend was ready to leave, she said "bye-bye" and I said "bye bye" and also, with a smile, I also said "I hope to see you again soon." She had a happy surprised smile on her face and I also said, "I would love to take you and your friend to dinner tomorrow." She agreed and the rest is history!

With this lady, she turned me on the first time I saw her. Her hair was up, she had a business suit on, her nails were done, and she carried herself like a lady and she had a nice little Asian tits and round hips. But when I talked to her, it was if I was a pure gentlemen -- she never knew I wanted to do her doggie style right there in Burger King!

Please note that my intent is not to put down any postings here.

Uncle Wayne

01-27-10, 06:38

Totally agree with what Undercoverh said about the local HK girls being better lays than WGs. Sex for me in HK is divided between 70% local girls (freebies) and 30% WGs, and I have to say the local girls own the WGs almost every time.

WGs tend to be mostly Filipino, or Vietnamese, or from some other place in South East Asia. If that's your thing, then more power to you, but those girls go for less than half price in their native countries, and the quality is better, so I prefer not to pay for Southeast Asian girls in HK. Northeast Asian girls is where it's at in HK.

I think HK people in general seem to be cold and distant all the time, but that's just the way it is in Asian cities. Actually it's kind of like that in NYC too. HK is just crowded and busy, and people are taught to keep to themselves in public and to be respectful of other people's personal space. But in my experience, if you take the first step in initiating a conversation, they're actually pretty receptive.

HK girls are actually pretty wild in the sack, and they secretly grave a little promiscuity, but it looks bad for a girl to actively go around looking for some action, so they can only sit there and hope a decent-looking guy propositions them in a non-sleazy way. HK girls know that their boyfriends or husbands regularly have sex on the side (paid or otherwise). It's an accepted culture in HK, so everyone basically has a don't ask, don't tell policy, but that doesn't man the girls like it. At the very least, they want some action for themselves too.

Case in point, some of the best sex I've had in HK was with this chick in her early 30s (though she looked mid-20s) I met while shopping for cologne at Sasa. I chatted her up and talked about the different colognes/perfumes we were each considering, and pretty soon we were shacking up. After a few times, I let her know straight up that I was just here to play and that I would probably be seeing other girls too, and she was cool with it because she was married! So we saw each other about once to twice a week for 7-8 months before she called it quits because she was going to be trying for a second baby.

But yeah, definitely give hitting on the local girls a try. Just look clean, put on a decent shirt, smile, be funny, practice your crappy Cantonese for laughs, and everything should flow.

Unless you've got a major fetish for Southeast Asian chicks, save it for when you can plan a trip to those countries.

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FreebieFan

01-27-10, 06:42

I agree with your comments! HK has 6, 000, 000+ folks of which at least 90% are Chinese. However, the HK posting here are mostly about Flips and Indos from the expensive tourist bars. Also, for all the years I have lived in HK (going on 13 years now), I will never understand why guys will pay HK$1, 000 or more for Flip and Indo girls when they come to HK? For those of you who do not know, Flip girls cost around HK$100 to HK$400 in the Philippines.

And here is another fact, local HK guys would never pay HK$1, 000 to have sex with a flip or indo. Why, because it is way overpriced.

Years ago on this sight, the guys who posted wrote about finding new sex outlets for Chinese girls in HK. Back then, we visited saunas, SW, OK clubs, 141s in all parts of HK, etc., meet local HK ladies, and wrote about it. It was all about having a new adventure and writing about it. Sad to say, those guys who did those write ups have moved on. The current postings

109-113 Portland in Yau Ma Tei. A high rise building full of outlets for sex, massage, OK bars, etc. Or, what about the tons of small regular massage outlets in Kowloon where many times I have had a nice GFE (e. G., the sweet Chinese massage girls has taken me up on my offer to come back to my service apartment later that night for a true GFE at very little money). Or, how to meet a local regular HK girl. The list goes on. My point is, for those new guys who come to this HK sight, do not make the mistake of thinking all there is to the HK sex scene is overpriced Flip and Indo girls from the tourist bars on HK island. My advice, get out and explore and come back a write about your new adventure.

Many guys come to HK and see HK ladies that never smile, always in a rush, and think HK ladies are cold and are not interested in guys from another country. Well, the is not true. You have to understand HK women. Once you understand them, you will enter a wonderful world the HK Chinese women. The best sex I have had in HK has not been from the pay-for-play ladies, but from regular, local, HK ladies where no money exchanged hands.

My current local HK girlfriend, I first saw her in the new Burger King on Nathan road in Yau Ma Tei. I sat down at a small table and she was sitting at the next table with her friend. I DID MY STANDARD APPROACH TO MEETING HK GIRLS IN PUBLIC PLACES WHICH WORKS ABOUT 20% OF THE TIME. To make a long story short, this 35 yo (I am 49), who works for HSBC, was conservative and nice looking on the outside but hot and sexy in the bedroom. Just by kissing her, she would get wet. WOW!

Understand this simple fact, many HK guys (even when they are married) get sex on a regular basis form the OK bars, 141s, saunas, etc. Therefore, they tend not to chase regular HK women or pay much attention to them. Don't believe me. The next time you are on the HK train or walking down the street, check and see how many HK guys are checking out local HK women. You will find that most HK guys will not pay attention to HK girls walking by. Compare this to America, for example, if a nice looking Chinese girl walks down the street in a major city, lots of American guys are making an effort to look. HK guys will rarely turn their head as a nice looking local HK girl walks by.

Or, how many times have you seen a HK guy open the door for a women. Rare to never.

My point is, the fact that HK guys do not pay lots attention to HK ladies leaves a lot of HK ladies wanting a man. And that's where you come in! Be sweet, nice, caring, sincere (act as if you are sincere even if you are not), and romantic with a local regular HK Chinese women and you will have the best GFE for FREE!

Also, here is another simple fact, most regular HK women are not interested in men that appear to be poor. Don't get me wrong, they are not looking (some are- but most are not) for a rich guy. They just want someone that dress nice, well groomed, a nice guy, and appears to have a regular source of income. Bare in mind, you can act the part regarding income, it is all about how well you dress and carry yourself.

What is my approach to meeting local HK girls, aside from what I have stated above, it is all really very simple. It comes down to eye contact and smiling. Bare in mind, most HK guys never pay attention to HK girls, much less smile at them. The HK girl will be surprised she has received a smile from a man that seems nice, dress nicely, friendly, and appears to have a good job.

Where do I meet regular local HK ladies, any place the opportunity presents itself. On the train, at a fast food outlet, waiting for the bus, etc. For example, my current girlfriend, the one sitting at Burger King, I looked at her and when she noticed I was looking at her I gave a little friendly smile. We exchanged looks and smiles over the next 10 minutes and I went along with the flow of the moment. She told me something that I did not understand and made a motion with her hand. She was trying to tell me I had mustard on my lips, we both laughed and I thanked her for telling me and then we talked a little small talk. When her friend was ready to leave, she said "bye-bye" and I said "bye bye" and also, with a smile, I also said "I hope to see you again soon. " She had a happy surprised smile on her face and I also said, "I would love to take you and your friend to dinner tomorrow. " She agreed and the rest is history!

With this lady, she turned me on the first time I saw her. Her hair was up, she had a business suit on, her nails were done, and she carried herself like a lady and she had a nice little Asian tits and round hips. But when I talked to her, it was if I was a pure gentlemen. She never knew I wanted to do her doggie style right there in Burger King!

Please note that my intent is not to put down any postings here.I would say that the reports here reflect the general trend of the baord, namely that most of what mongers do in various cities is pay for play.

Personally its not my thing and have great success working the "free world" game.

I lived in HK for 10 years and for the first few years was a perfect non mongering husband and never looked at another girl hinking " have to have me some of that ". Times change and now, like the writer, I think " Doggie" at every available opportunity.

Many of us have also lived in Indonesia and/or Philippines and have become familiar with the charms of the sultry ladies (does anyone else have a keyboard challenge in typing "sultry". Mine often comes out as "slutry" LOL)

Anyways I've had a few HK ladies in my time, including one of my former staff after I left the company she and I worked for. That was fun.

I met another one in Laguna. She was a cool fun girl that was always available for me on my HK trips. White skin and trademark tiny HK titties but nice to have in bed.

Yes there are many out there to pick up, but for the guy in town on a 2-3 day business trip he might not have the time for a Burger King type pick up, so opts for the Filipina or Indonesian.

Note that Flip is totally degrading as is Indo. We; ve been down this path before.

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Molton74

01-27-10, 09:55

Tony Toro

01-27-10, 10:45

Korean Girls.

You must not be American. Anyone who is american and a fan of AMPs knows them well. I just would never go to HK for them.

Most of the them are very cold businesslilke. I remember reading on a PI board. Koreans girls are souless. Anyway I have run into some real fun ones in the US AMPs but that is 1 out of every 5 or so. Maybe the HK Koreans are different so don't take it as a bash.

Thanks for report.No problem Bro. However I have found good and bad in all types, although the good rate in Mongolians has been very high for me. I can imagine HK is not the best place for Korean hunting, but I go to HK for business not Seoul.

Tony Toro

01-27-10, 11:02

Bob Builder

01-27-10, 15:07

Instead of complaining about the lack of posts about Chinese action, why don't you go out, do some and report about it, instead of bitching about guys that are actually getting some action and bothering to post their exploits.

Can't you guys cum, jacking off to a report about someone doing a flipper of indo gal or something?

Kobe Beef

01-27-10, 18:39

"Also, here is another simple fact, most regular HK women are not interested in men that appear to be poor. Don't get me wrong, they are not looking (some are- but most are not) for a rich guy. They just want someone that dress nice, well groomed, a nice guy, and appears to have a regular source of income. Bare in mind, you can act the part regarding income, it is all about how well you dress and carry yourself.

I was a pure gentlemen. She never knew I wanted to do her doggie style right there in Burger King!"

For those who don't know, Burger King is a very chi chi establishment in HK, full of girls looking for men with fat wallets.

Apac Man

01-27-10, 21:54

For those who don't know, Burger King is a very chi chi establishment in HK, full of girls looking for men with fat wallets.

And I always thought of it as yet another form of McDonald! I should start eating more Whoppers!

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Luvpuss

01-28-10, 02:57

Empire is GF and very close to action.

MoltonSuper, thank you.

Bob Builder

01-28-10, 07:54

And I always thought of it as yet another form of McDonald! I should start eating more Whoppers!

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Trying to tell you that BK is the in place to be is more like he is "telling Whoppers" to me, LOL!

And while his methods sound simple, in reality most guys still have that fear of rejection that stops them just walking up to a girl and talking to her, in a joint outside of Wanchai that is.

Thepfu

01-29-10, 01:06

I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.

Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?

Idler31

01-29-10, 07:22

I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.

Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?

Very unlikely. It's only HK$100 and 25 minutes train ride into Central, and from there just a short cab ride to Wanchai. Why waste a night in HK hanging out at the airport?!

Sky Ryder

01-29-10, 09:09

I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.

Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?

The last time I stayed at the Regal, I took the train to Kowloon and then went to Hari's bar in the Holiday Inn, met a nice little Filipina gal and took her back to my room.. It was about 200 HKD for the taxi back and she spent the night.
I left before she got out of bed in the morning (she did wake up and take care of my "morning wood in a very nice fashion and with a smile, then rolled over and went back to sleep) I gave a er h100 HKD and told her to walk to the Airport Train station in the airport and take the train home. She sent me a sms later that afternoon to say "thanks, please call me the next time you are in town". I did mention to the front desk when I checked out, that my "guest" would be checking out later and to please not disturb her. It seemed to work out well for everyone.
I had also stopped by K pressure early in the afternoon, to "scratch" that itch. I wish that a "friend" had never introduced me to that place....it is way to easy and fun. You might also give a look at the 141 website if you prefer delivery, I am sure they can do that as well.
Enjoy and remember to share....

Tony Toro

01-29-10, 13:06

I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.

Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?No good Bro, very sterile environment! Catch the AEL train to TST (20 mins train + HK$30 cab ride gets you to Hari's Bar)... or Central (30 mins train and HK$30 gets you to Wan Chai) and find someone nice there to bring back to hotel.

BionicMan

01-29-10, 14:28

.... Also, for all the years I have lived in HK (going on 13 years now), I will never understand why guys will pay HK$1,000 or more for Flip and Indo girls when they come to HK??? For those of you who do not know, Flip girls cost around HK$100 to HK$400 in the Philippines..... .....
Please note that my intent is not to put down any postings here.
With the same intent of yours, I think that your comparison of the price of an Flip or Indo in their homeplace and HK, or wherever in the world, can't be a good rule.
First of all one need to account the flight costs, with these gals often having to do visa runs, then the cost of living. If you can convince the local commercial establishment to charge the Flip and the Indo the same price they pay for anything as at home, you might start to expect some more levelled prices.
But this is Utopia, I am afraid.
I have not see any asian girl price in Europe to be the same price as at their home.... and I cannot expect to see it. :)

Basah

01-29-10, 17:40

Perhaps Undercover's thought line is that it is cheaper, on a monetary basis, to fly from Hong Kong to Clark, roger, spend the night, roger again, and come back to Hong Kong, than to pay a long term rate of $1,500. prices to Clark right now are HK $170 one way, and the ewr is not much.

That said, what people who post this miss is the lost opportunity cost in making the trek. And to further contradict myself, I further agree with the opportunity to hunt local women. Haven't done it, after 15 years, but I would agree it is a smile and trial type of thing.

YMMV

Basah

Undercoverh

01-30-10, 02:41

For guys who want Flips and Indos, note that Flips are offered in Hong Kong at fair prices. In the Mongkok area, Flips cost about HK$250 to HK300 for 45 minutes.

You may ask yourself, why do Flips cost more at Fenwicks than MongKok? The answer is simple, Fenwicks is a tourist bar and Mongkok is where the locals go for sex.

As a side note, the sex scene in the MongKok area goes back at least 80 years. It is, and has been where the HK guys go for sex. It has only been in the last 15 years it has been opened up to guys like you and me. In fact, the 141 concept on the website came from the 141 long ago advertisement in Chinese news papers that was only written in Chinese with no pics. Then, with the internet, 141 ads went to the internet but was still only written in Chinese. It has been only in the past 5 years, some of the 141 sites are also in English. man 169 still only provides info in Chinese, at least the last time I checked. The site is for lots of sex clubs mainly in Mongkok.

Now, back to the signs. You will see that on the sign, Thais are cheaper. Russia chicks cost more and other types are available. Starting at Dundas street, walk down Portland and/or Shanghai heading NORTH (don't worry this area is safe, I have been visiting the area for the past 13 years and never had a problem). You will see some yellow signs with the listing of prices and the type of girls offered. I am not into Flip chicks, because I had my feel of them many years ago. However, for old time sake, I have from time to time visited Mong Kok for a Flip or other types of chicks. As with any lay, service and enjoyment will depend on several factors. If the girl agrees, you can also take her out, but why would you want to. The few times I had Flips for about HK250 or 300, service was ok to good. A few times, the Flip gave BBBJ.

Now, for those guys who want good looking Asian chicks at a fair price, lots of 141s offer this. Here is an area I like to visit, it is called Sai Wan Ho. It is easy to get to on the train. In fact, the train stop, just walk out and several 141s are a few minutes away. Nice looking Asian girls for about HK$350. Go to sex 141 and look up Sai Wan Ho on HK island.

Note that all the girls do not advertise on 141, so there will be lots more at the building when you get there. For example, at 153-157 Shau Kei Wan Rd., on the second floor, there are a ton of girls, way more than on 141.

I also like Shau Kei Wan. Also, if I pay HK350 and the service or sex is not that good, I am ok with it. But if I pay way more and the service sucks, I am pissed. This the joy of visiting low cost providers that are attractive, if she does not perform to your satisfaction, no great loss. For example, 3 weeks ago, I had a 21 Chinese girl from at a 141.

In person, she was hot, but after we got down to business, she would not let me suck her tits or touch them. She also said I was taking too long. Oh well, her pussy was nice and tight, and for HK350, it was not a big deal with me regarding the "No Suck Or Touch Tit Policy." The next day, I had a great lay and service from a different young Chinese girl in the same building for HK350. As with anything in life, it is "hit-and-miss."

IMPORTANT NOTE: Do not feel shy about knocking on the door and if she is not what you are looking for when she opens the door, smile, shake your head no, and walk away. It is way the game is played, so don't feel bad about doing it.

If you have lots of money and you do not care about spending lots of it on Asian girls, then head to Tsim Sha Tsui. This place is the most overpriced area for sex in Hong Kong for 141s. Why, because it is a tourist area. Compare TST to Shaui Kei Wan or Sai Wan Ho, where you will not see tourist (or just a few). SKW and SWO, and places like it, are where the local guys go. So start acting like a local and not a tourist. Also, in TST, you are paying for the girls overhead (e.g., higher rent compared to other areas in HK). Just because you pay more, do not assume the service will be better.
As for the bars in TST, you will pay a lot more for the girls time, just like tourist bars in Fenwicks.

And for those guys who think they are only in HK for a short time so why make an effort to me a local regular girl, consider this. Email and phones provide an opportunity to stay in touch. And if she likes you, you will have a nice little friend waiting for you when you return. Also, when you return to hK, you can still visit 141s and other sex outlets, and meet up with your local anytime you want. For older guys, I think they will appreciate this more. That is, spending time with a nice girl that may spread her legs for you without having to pay for it. A girl that really likes you and will offer the real GFE.

Also, when you are hunting, aim for the easy targets. Older HK women are easy targets as opposed to the 21 yo HK girl. Older HK women in there 30s or 40s rarely get attention, if ever. And many of them are still single or their husband left them. Some have kids and some don't. Also, lots of these HK ladies that are 35+ still look good. If you can believe this (believe it because it is true), there are OK clubs in HK that older HK women go to spend time and money on the men that are offered there. That's right, it is the same concept of OK club for men. But rather, the folks that visit are women and the men working there are young. This shows you how many lonely older Asian women there are in HK. The thing I like about older (35 to 45) regular HK women is that they really appreciate the sex. Also, generally speaking, younger women give you a lot of crap whereas older women go with the flow.

Currently, I see a HK women that is 44. She knows I have a girlfriend and she is ok with it (she does NOT know I visit 141s). We meet once a week and it is the same procedure. I take her to dinner (HK150), we may go to the movies, or shopping (she spends her own money), then back to her place for shower, oral sex (excellent BBBJ and ball licking), excellent sex with no condom (she is the only one I would do this with -other than my girlfriend- because I have know her for many years), and I always cum in her tight pussy (nice to do this with no worries of her having a baby) or CIM.

We have tried anal but she was too tight and I did not want to hurt her so I stopped. However, it was cool she was willing to try for me. Sometimes, I like having a women that really likes me, just for being me and there is no exchange of money. This is the real GFE.

After sex, we lay together like lovers, watch TV and I am out of there by 9:00 pm. She is basically a sweet Asian women who is still attractive that HK guys would not pay any attention to. She cooks for me. She was married before but her husband left her for another HK women. Her kid, now in his 20s treats her with little respect. Sometimes, I feel like telling him, "hey, your mom gives great BBBJ."

She worked in a shop I would visit on a regular basis in the morning and we would exchange smiles but she was always busy with customers and there were too many HK folks around for me to talk to her the way I wanted to. So, one day, when I came to the shop, we had our brief small talk and smiles as usual -- but this time, just before I left, I gave her my business card with a nice note I written on the back and my phone number. On the note, I basically told her she was a very sweet person and I always enjoyed our brief conversations. I wished her happy Chinese new year and I stated I would love to take her to lunch or dinner to start the new year. I also included my phone number. Two days later, she called and the rest is history.

I have known her for 6 years and over the years I have broken up with her 3 times. But she always calls and say, ok, if you do not want to be with me, we can be friends. We then hang out as friends, and then it leads to suckin and fuckin again. This is how I ended up with doing her again and also having a new girlfriend she knows about. It was actually her idea for me to have two -- oh, Chinese women are wonderful. Of course, my girlfriend does not know about her.

If you still feel meeting local girls is not for you.......no problem. That will just leave more HK pussy for me. : - )

The best thing about HK is that you can travel between Kowloon and HK island and visit lots of places in less than 20 minutes. So get out there and explore.

Tony Toro

01-30-10, 05:11

For guys who want Flips and Indos, note that Flips are offered in Hong Kong at fair prices. In the Mongkok area, Flips cost about HK$250+ for 45 minutes.

You may ask yourself, why do Flips cost more at Fenwicks than MongKok? The answer is simple, Fenwicks is a tourist bar and Mongkok is where the locals go for sex... etcA very enjoyable read. Thanks. I do think you made a mistake with your earlier post however, simplified: you gave the impression that any guy doing Filipinas and Thais in HK was paying way to much. Re read your post and I think you will note that is the overwhelming impression.

Fact is, there are a lot of Bros who come to HK for business, have no means of explaining a "side trip to Manilla" and so regardless of cost have no interest in doing that, whatever they may save on WG's they could lose ten-fold in other ways.

On the other hand you have made some excellent points about 141, Portland Street, 37D etc, all places that have been mentioned here before, but no harm to reiterate what they offer. An interesting and entertaining read.

I have done my share of Thais, Filipinas, Singapore, Mainland girls, etc and I have decided that my favourites are Korean, Japanese & Mongolian. That's just my personal taste. I prefer the sex, I also like the interaction before and after which is quite different to some other nationalities.

It suits me to pick up a Korean girl at a bar in TST because I enjoy listening to music, having a few drinks, and the "getting to know each other" time you dont get from 141 or walk ups.

I initially pay a premium for that, but then when I find a girl I like, we exchange contact details and see each other regularly. The price drops considerably, in fact in some cases the cost can be dinner or cocktails rather than just straight cash.

The style suits me and it gets me what I like.

I think the key issue is, that whilst all your points are "generally" correct (IMHO) there are often very valid reasons why some bros DONT do it "your recommended way" and it is not always simply ignorance.

Tony Toro

01-30-10, 07:05

If you can believe this (believe it because it is true), there are OK clubs in HK that older HK women go to spend time and money on the men that are offered there. That's right, it is the same concept of OK club for men. But rather, the folks that visit are women and the men working there are young. This shows you how many lonely older Asian women there are in HK.Now that is something I did NOT know. I have seen the 30 something girls hanging around bars looking to score, and I know under the right circumstances they can be FOC + eats and drinks, but to think they could be mongering in an OK place? Yikes. I am therefore compelled to ask, any girls here at ISG?

Kobe Beef

01-30-10, 08:40

I was in the Dundas establishment around 2:30 Thursday. There were enough girls to provide me with a line up of four. The mama kept saying I could take two. I should have should have asked if it was a 2 for 1 pricing.

Friday a 6 story tenement in To Kwa Wan collapsed. Several single woman brothels were known to be operating in the building. There were several fatalities. Food for thought when you venture in to some of the decrepit 141 venues.

Kobe Beef

01-30-10, 12:52

Now that is something I did NOT know. I have seen the 30 something girls hanging around bars looking to score, and I know under the right circumstances they can be FOC + eats and drinks, but to think they could be mongering in an OK place? Yikes. I am therefore compelled to ask, any girls here at ISG?There are many (not a few, but many) in HK where Thai working girls go to karaoke and monger Thai working men. Ironic, no?

Undercoverh

01-30-10, 16:07

A very enjoyable read. Thanks. I do think you made a mistake with your earlier post however, simplified: you gave the impression that any guy doing Filipinas and Thais in HK was paying way to much. Re read your post and I think you will note that is the overwhelming impression.

Fact is, there are a lot of Bros who come to HK for business, have no means of explaining a "side trip to Manilla" and so regardless of cost have no interest in doing that, whatever they may save on WG's they could lose ten-fold in other ways.

On the other hand you have made some excellent points about 141, Portland Street, 37D etc, all places that have been mentioned here before, but no harm to reiterate what they offer. An interesting and entertaining read.

I have done my share of Thais, Filipinas, Singapore, Mainland girls, etc and I have decided that my favourites are Korean, Japanese & Mongolian. That's just my personal taste. I prefer the sex, I also like the interaction before and after which is quite different to some other nationalities.

It suits me to pick up a Korean girl at a bar in TST because I enjoy listening to music, having a few drinks, and the "getting to know each other" time you dont get from 141 or walk ups.

I initially pay a premium for that, but then when I find a girl I like, we exchange contact details and see each other regularly. The price drops considerably, in fact in some cases the cost can be dinner or cocktails rather than just straight cash.

The style suits me and it gets me what I like.

I think the key issue is, that whilst all your points are "generally" correct (IMHO) there are often very valid reasons why some bros DONT do it "your recommended way" and it is not always simply ignorance.

I generally agree with most of your comments. I strongly agree with your concept that guys will do what they like based on what they prefer and their taste in women. My intent was to provide guys with another option, especially when most of the post here for the past several months has focused mostly on Flips and Indos in the overpriced tourist bars. Newbies may have obtained the wrong impression from the sight (e.g., all there is to HK is overpriced sex), not knowing that there are lots of options for good sex at much lower prices than the tourist bars. As an investigative sex reporter, I believe in fair and balanced reporting....... : - )

Uncle Wayne

01-31-10, 04:14

This shows you how many lonely older Asian women there are in HK. The thing I like about older (35 to 45) regular HK women is that they really appreciate the sex. Also, generally speaking, younger women give you a lot of crap whereas older women go with the flow.Agreed. For the same level of hotness, the younger girls think they're all that and are way too high maintenance. Plus the service isn't all that great, partly from lack of experience, and also because they have this mentality that just because they're young and hot, all they have to do is just lay there and their work is done.

Older women for me is in the 30-40 range. Once they break the 30 barrier, it has some huge psychological effect on them. In HK it's like post-30 women are no longer on anyone's A list and are bumped down to second-tier, and they know that, so they'll work harder (more like do their fair share) to please a man. Also, a few bad breakups and maybe a divorce later, they're more realistic and practical and not caught up in all that ideological crap like the 20-somethings are.

I don't know why HK people are so against 30+ women. You still see a lot of really attractive women out there who are over 30, some really nice milfs. And since no one pays attention to them anymore, it's not too hard to get freebies.

Seriously, I rarely dip under 25 anymore. Just not worth it, IMHO.

Basah

01-31-10, 06:25

You may ask yourself, why do Flips cost more at Fenwicks than MongKok? The answer is simple, Fenwicks is a tourist bar and Mongkok is where the locals go for sex.

I really like your plug for local women, and suggesting people take the effort to make it work. Should move me out of my comfort zone.

In my opinion, though, the Wanchai bars, while they do have tourists in them, have an incredible amount of Gwei expat's who are regulars there, so I wouldn't place them as 'tourist' bars.

Additionally, just a thought, but at $250 for 45 minutes for a Filippina in Mongkok, you'd get 90 minutes for $500 (short-time) or $1000 for 3 hours, which is shorter than LT for a Filippina in Wanchai - and the attitude in my experience having done both is better because there is the allure that "I'm not really doing this for the money" when in Mongkok, you walk up to the brothel and that allure goes away. So really not talking about all that much of a price difference are we?

Tony Toro

01-31-10, 08:21

Additionally, just a thought, but at $250 for 45 minutes for a Filippina in Mongkok, you'd get 90 minutes for $500 (short-time) or $1000 for 3 hours, which is shorter than LT for a Filippina in Wanchai. And the attitude in my experience having done both is better because there is the allure that "I'm not really doing this for the money" when in Mongkok, you walk up to the brothel and that allure goes away. So really not talking about all that much of a price difference are we?I totally agree with this. A good example, I go to a bar in TST or Wan Chai, relax, have a drink, listen to music and see if I find something that I like.

Lets say someone catches my eye and we have a chat, get to know each other listen to the music etc, eventually we get down to talking about "later", we agree to a price and criteria. Eventually we head off together.

In a case where I have negotiated a ST (say 2. 3 hour experience) I may pay anything from HK$500. $1, 500. The range depends on "who" and how much do I want her. When I add the 2. 3 hours we enjoyed eachother's company in the bar before hand, I am paying HK$500. $1500 for a 4. 6 hour experience. I am happy with that.

In a case where I want to have LT with a WG, I may pay more, however I will get more in return.

If I really enjoy the WG, I will exchange contact info and see her again. Price can be much more flexible once the WG has had an opportunity to get to know you, the "extra" she factors in for "risk" can be removed and other things such as a meals, coffee etc can be considered.

Overall, the value I am getting, at least to me, is at least on PAR with paying a 141 girl HK$250. $500 for 45 minutes of straight sex.

However, Undercoverh does raise some excellent points and provides a comprehensive summary of alternatives for all to consider.

We just need to keep in mind, that someone paying HK$1, 000. HK$1, 500 for a LT with a Filipina WG in HK is not necessarily just "over paying". There are numerous other factors that influence one's decision. There are also numerous other factors that need to be considered when assessing the value one is getting.