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[SexPerimenter]

I'm staying at the Ritz in HK for one day and would like to hear your recommendations for where to go nearby (or easy to get to) for a full service GFE with a cute, young Chinese gal. A FS soapy massage sounds like fun. Where to go and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks in advance

[Kaplay]

I agree too. And let me add that her POV are not only informative but "monger-friendly".

In most of the cases we are used to read from girls in here trying to sell their services.

In this case she gives hints, information of good help, including wise advices.

Thanks for your time, ChantikI agree with Bionicman here, I find her advices and tips very informative and interesting read. Gives me as a visitor a bit more info about how to go about.

I was also interested to read about what she said about quick take away in the go go bars. I know a lot of guys have said that they are rip offs in terms of prices but how about the girls there? There is less hassle in negotiations and it must be you get what you pay? For 2 hours, are the girls allow to go with you to your hotel room? I've always been less inclined to walk into one becoz of the negative reviews but I think that now Chantik has shed new light, I think that I should try it out.

Many years ago, while still a hot blooded teenager, a friend and I, barely out of our teens walked into one in kowloon and they had south amrican, thai and hk girls.

On another note, any news on the scene on kowloon side, hari's bar or any other places?

[Johnny Rocket]

I am certain that most Indo D / H are not on any birth control. Unsure about Filipina's.

At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.The pill still isn't very common in Asia in general. I've never known a DH who was on it. I wouldn't take any WL or DH's word for it!

As for me I only BB once I know the girl and I NEVER blow a load in her pussy. I always put on a condom before shooting or cum in her mouth.

[BionicMan]

The Shooter just spent one night in HK accompanied by "BossFromHell", the hard-drinking workaholic whose prudish nature puts the kibosh on all mongering activities.

The cost? HK$390 for the ST hotel and 1500 for the lady. Absurdly expensive yes, but the experience was priceless, Mastercard?

[WildHawk]

At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.If you are saying they are not typically trying to track down the father for financial support, then really? What's up with that? Are they counting on a sense of duty or guilt on the man's part?

The result certainly sounds like a deal-ender for employment in HK as a D / H, plus another one to support (with no job) once they go back to Indonesia. And there is no stigma attached once they return?

Yes, Chantik, after tangling with you earlier on the point of buying lady drinks, I would say your contributions are appreciated. Also, you mentioned barfining go-go girls. There is scant information on that on the ISG, and I have assumed most of the Wan Chai gogos are ripoffs. Have you met any men who have been satifsified with that take-away option?

Cheers.

[Gman69]

This up coming trip for me will be the first for me to HK. I'm chatting with a Filipino D / H now and she telling me the same what is being mentioned in the forum, that she is locked up Mon-Sat and then on Sun she is "aloud to go play". Is legal for the employers to do this to the D / H? To prevent them to not socialize outside the house after work hours and have a life? This practice sounds much like a indentured servant instead of a nanny. WTF?


D / H VS W / L.

Firstly there are about 240, 000 the / H in HK.

Equally distributed between Indo / Filipina and a few from Thailand, Sri Lanka and India.

Sex experience / ability.

D / H tend to be older. You'd be surprised how many are over 30. Filipina and Indonesian's D / H have a good reputation for being horny. Don't call Indo's Brown F. Ing machines for no reason.

Usually a D / H is happy to get 500. And will give aN ENJOYABLE experience.

You need to understand the mentality of D / H who visit Wanchai. They are naughty girls! And happily talk to their friends about their conquests.

W / L.

Like anything punting is a game of chance. If you talk strictly about Wanchai Bar girls. You will get some good and some bad. Some will charge reasonably, some charge alot.

I think if you are only talking about girls in Wanchai bars. Probably better value paying 500 to a D / H. Then pay 1500/2000 for a W / L. Of course this 500 rate is only available Sat / sun afternoon / evenings of public holidays. And won't suit many travellers.

Thinking more about girls asking 2 or 3 or 4 K in bars like Escape / Neptune. And girls often stopping after one pop. In some cases you are better getting a quick take-away from a Go Go Bar. One drink / one for the lady. And you can get them for 2000. And they stay for 2 hours and provide a full service. Multiple pops.

[Johnny Rocket]

If you are saying they are not typically trying to track down the father for financial support, then really? What's up with that? Are they counting on a sense of duty or guilt on the man's part?

The result certainly sounds like a deal-ender for employment in HK as a D / H, plus another one to support (with no job) once they go back to Indonesia. And there is no stigma attached once they return?

Yes, Chantik, after tangling with you earlier on the point of buying lady drinks, I would say your contributions are appreciated. Also, you mentioned barfining go-go girls. There is scant information on that on the ISG, and I have assumed most of the Wan Chai gogos are ripoffs. Have you met any men who have been satifsified with that take-away option?

Cheers.Your post seems to assume that these DHs are thinking things through. Clearly they aren't. I'm not sure what country you're from but you have no doubt seen that in many western countries, people are having babies they can't afford, many of them young and single. I'm not sure about Indonesia but in Philippines single motherhood seems to be the rule rather than the exception.

I have only taken a girl out of a gogo bar once. I was taking a friend back to his hotel room and on the way down I saw a hot little Filipina I instantly knew was a WL. I asked her to come with me and she said she was obligated to return to work immediately. Turned out she worked in a gogo bar and was due back at a certain time from her recently completed appointment. So I rode in the taxi back with her to her gogo bar (I don't remember which one) and told the mamasan I wanted to take her out. I don't remember exactly how much I paid but I seem to remember it being a bit more than typical ST, maybe 1200, but she was a great fuck with a really tight pussy so I was happy. This was a unique situation obviously, normally I wouldn't go to a gogo bar and I don't even usually go to Wan Chai anyway.

[FreebieFan]

I'm staying at the Ritz in HK for one day and would like to hear your recommendations for where to go nearby (or easy to get to) for a full service GFE with a cute, young Chinese gal. A FS soapy massage sounds like fun. Where to go and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks in advanceWhen you are in a supermarket standing in front of the bread counter, do you ask the Bread counter staff where the bread is.

You are now at the Bread counter, stand back, review the breads. All the bread you ever wanted was here.

[WildHawk]

Your post seems to assume that these DHs are thinking things through. Clearly they aren't. I'm not sure what country you're from but you have no doubt seen that in many western countries, people are having babies they can't afford, many of them young and single. .Johnny Rocket: Thanks for your insight, particularly with the gogo girl takeout. Might be worth a try at HK$1200 though I think Chantkik's figure of $2K plus the drinks is a bit high (like double what I'd regular pay to a Wan Chai WG out of Amazonia or Nep II / III, but suppose par for the course for the go-gos. I have walked past a few lookers on Lockhart Road (amid the plethora of old haggy McHag touts) outside those musty clubs and wondered whether snatch really existed on the other side of the rainbow. .

As to the Indo D / Hs having mixed kids, well, I'm from the USA, where siring a kid means CHILD SUPPORT and then some, regardless of the circumstances (damn, judge, I wuz stone drunk and the beee-yotch done stuck my thingy in her twat. Well, good luck with that, suckuh!) I am just a bit suprised that, if Chanktik is correct, this is some kind of trend (like chihuahua puppies. Oh, so cute!) of reuniting with the family in Jakarta with the latest Chia pet in tow! Seriously, I find it a bit odd that any Westerner would not at all be concerned about his offspring (money shot, inside, uncovered) , but damn, call me old-fashioned.

[Makeupaname]

Are you kidding? Some of my best Saturday / Sunday afternoons have been spent in the company of DH's. What they may lack in experience, they make up in enthusiasm! In addition, very rarely do they discuss money. They are over the moon to get $500.I also generally prefer a DH than a working girl. I just meant a DH is less likely to know about STDs, birth control, shaving, douching, fetishes, etc. But the sex can be great with a horny DH.

[Johnny Rocket]

Johnny Rocket: Thanks for your insight, particularly with the gogo girl takeout. Might be worth a try at HK$1200 though I think Chantkik's figure of $2K plus the drinks is a bit high (like double what I'd regular pay to a Wan Chai WG out of Amazonia or Nep II / III, but suppose par for the course for the go-gos. I have walked past a few lookers on Lockhart Road (amid the plethora of old haggy McHag touts) outside those musty clubs and wondered whether snatch really existed on the other side of the rainbow. .

As to the Indo D / Hs having mixed kids, well, I'm from the USA, where siring a kid means CHILD SUPPORT and then some, regardless of the circumstances (damn, judge, I wuz stone drunk and the beee-yotch done stuck my thingy in her twat. Well, good luck with that, suckuh!) I am just a bit suprised that, if Chanktik is correct, this is some kind of trend (like chihuahua puppies. Oh, so cute!) of reuniting with the family in Jakarta with the latest Chia pet in tow! Seriously, I find it a bit odd that any Westerner would not at all be concerned about his offspring (money shot, inside, uncovered) , but damn, call me old-fashioned.I agree wholeheartedly. I shudder at the thought of having a child somewhere to whom I have no rights and who probably isn't being taken care of properly. If one has a wife or a long-term GF you know is on the pill, then you can blow a load uncovered in her pussy. If one does so with a WL, DH, freebie or similar then IMHO you are an irresponsible idiot.

BTW re Makeupaname: I also much prefer DHs but there are some WLs who are GFE or at least great fucks. I tend to repeat with the really good ones. I also don't have a lot of time on the weekends to meet DHs.

[Chantik]

I agree with Bionicman here, I find her advices and tips very informative and interesting read. Gives me as a visitor a bit more info about how to go about.

I was also interested to read about what she said about quick take away in the go go bars. I know a lot of guys have said that they are rip offs in terms of prices but how about the girls there? There is less hassle in negotiations and it must be you get what you pay? For 2 hours, are the girls allow to go with you to your hotel room? I've always been less inclined to walk into one becoz of the negative reviews but I think that now Chantik has shed new light, I think that I should try it out.

Many years ago, while still a hot blooded teenager, a friend and I, barely out of our teens walked into one in kowloon and they had south amrican, thai and hk girls.

On another note, any news on the scene on kowloon side, hari's bar or any other places?Kaplay.

Only suggesting Go Go Bars cause some working ladies are charging big dollars. And running out after one pop.

Fairly certain that with the Go Go Bars your hotel has to be nearby. Hk Island and some parts of Kowloon are OK.

Go Go Bars. One drink and leave with a girl.

[Chantik]

If you are saying they are not typically trying to track down the father for financial support, then really? What's up with that? Are they counting on a sense of duty or guilt on the man's part?

The result certainly sounds like a deal-ender for employment in HK as a D / H, plus another one to support (with no job) once they go back to Indonesia. And there is no stigma attached once they return?

Yes, Chantik, after tangling with you earlier on the point of buying lady drinks, I would say your contributions are appreciated. Also, you mentioned barfining go-go girls. There is scant information on that on the ISG, and I have assumed most of the Wan Chai gogos are ripoffs. Have you met any men who have been satifsified with that take-away option?

Cheers.Couple of things.

Most Filipina D. H have already been married and have at least one baby.

This is less so for Indo's. But a few have babies from Indo husbands.

Think Indo girls think if they get pregnant. The man will stay with them. And then the baby and eventually the woman will get a GWAILO passport.

[Member #4144]

Kaplay.

Only suggesting Go Go Bars cause some working ladies are charging big dollars. And running out after one pop.

Fairly certain that with the Go Go Bars your hotel has to be nearby. Hk Island and some parts of Kowloon are OK.

Go Go Bars. One drink and leave with a girl.Good to hear and I will give it a try on my next trip. I have never gone into any of the Go Go bars as they looked like a rip off, plus what the others had been saying, but since places like Amazonia does not want my business (Chinese not allowed) , I shall try something new.

I read one report that the guy had the best sexial experience inside a go go bar, all for the price of a few drinks, so the drinks in the go go bars are much more expensive then the $70-80 lady drinks in other places?

Fillmore

[HK Guy 2003]

I am certain that most Indo D / H are not on any birth control. Unsure about Filipina's.

At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.Gents, let me chime as well. Since I been in HK for some time now. And having had my fair share of DH and WL. My conclusion.

1. With WL, must use protection, unless you are a repeat customer. And you know enough about the lady. To date, never had any problems with any WL from wanchai, I would be more leery of the girls from those local yellow sign vendors in Mongkok and Kowloon side.

2. Nearly all DH do not use any birth control (this is for both filipina and indos) , only the experienced one (part time WL) will ask you to use condom, with most of my experience the girl never even ask to me to use, more often than not, they want you to give them baby (again, same for filipina and indos) , as long either you are young, fair looking, and / or appear to have money, you will be a good catch to them and they will want you to father the child. So best is to be responsible when you play.

Lastly, I used to favor filipinas when I first moved here, but now indos are my cup of tea. Some of the indos girls have bodies that are hotter than those you see in the porn movies. I know one indo girl that I see occasionally, she has steady bf, but if you treat her nice, she will put a grin on your face that will last all day.

[Sammon]

I agree wholeheartedly. I shudder at the thought of having a child somewhere to whom I have no rights and who probably isn't being taken care of properly. If one has a wife or a long-term GF you know is on the pill, then you can blow a load uncovered in her pussy. If one does so with a WL, DH, freebie or similar then IMHO you are an irresponsible idiot.

BTW re Makeupaname: I also much prefer DHs but there are some WLs who are GFE or at least great fucks. I tend to repeat with the really good ones. I also don't have a lot of time on the weekends to meet DHs.It is difficult to know whether you fathered a baby unless you live with a girl long time. DH whether Indo or any other prefer BB. You might have been the one of many who have deposited the sperm. The lady herself will not know who the father is and probably does not care. Her folks are only glad to be willing to bring up the baby while she continues to work. So unless you use protection all the time (including when you are drunk) you will never know. I am sure all mongers have gone BB atleast a few times with working girls, maids etc.

[Mighty Spearsman]

I'm staying at the Ritz in HK for one day and would like to hear your recommendations for where to go nearby (or easy to get to) for a full service GFE with a cute, young Chinese gal. A FS soapy massage sounds like fun. Where to go and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks in advanceThe esteemed senior member FreebieFan is right. Since you are a newbie with limited posts, you should RTFF (read the board).

But, to make it easy for you, I recommend go to 37 Dundas Street (just off Nathan Road in Kowloon) and walk up one flight of stairs from street level. Choose your girl, then you'll walk up two more flights of stairs to a short-stay hotel floor. It will cost you around 520 HKD. Enjoy, then post about it here.

If that doesn't interest you, then try K-Pressure or one of the 141 girls.

If you need more info, then read the board. 37 Dundas, K Pressure and the 141 girls have all been discussed extensively here on ISG.

[Chantik]

Good to hear and I will give it a try on my next trip. I have never gone into any of the Go Go bars as they looked like a rip off, plus what the others had been saying, but since places like Amazonia does not want my business (Chinese not allowed) , I shall try something new.

I read one report that the guy had the best sexial experience inside a go go bar, all for the price of a few drinks, so the drinks in the go go bars are much more expensive then the $70-80 lady drinks in other places?

FillmoreYour beer may cost 20 or 25 dollars. But the ladies drink could be 200 to 300 dollars.

Thats why It is one drink and run with the lady.

[Yhddude13]

It is difficult to know whether you fathered a baby unless you live with a girl long time. DH whether Indo or any other prefer BB. You might have been the one of many who have deposited the sperm. The lady herself will not know who the father is and probably does not care. Her folks are only glad to be willing to bring up the baby while she continues to work. So unless you use protection all the time (including when you are drunk) you will never know. I am sure all mongers have gone BB atleast a few times with working girls, maids etc.I have had my fair share of pay for play sex and I have never inserted without a condom. I have had 3 incidents of broken rappers. In the uk once it broke, but I heard a noise and pulled right out and it was broken. In an FKK, I didn't notice until after I came and the same with a philipina in macau. The only one who has any way of finding me was the uk lady, and it has been long enough and I noticed she was still available on the escort website, so she obviously doesn't have a little me in her.

I will say that any philipina that offers herself for money, I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't need a rapper. When I went to AC, I shocked the shit out of the girls when I stopped them from putting it in before I put a condom on. However, my experience mongering in HK is that they all ask before we get to the room.

[SexPerimenter]

Thanks for the reply. Maybe I should have but I didn't mention that I had read the first 9 pages of posts in this thread and the five most recent links to reports of distinction before I posted. Some of the reports were over a year old, one about 141 walkups mentioned a building that after extensive searching I discovered that it didn't even exist anymore. I'd read about 37 Dundas and K-Pressure but one said that the K-pressure girls weren't as nice as the ones at 37 Dundas; then I saw another where someone rated the 37 Dundas girls as 5 or 6 on a scale of ten.

What I was looking for was up to date information from someone with recent experience. As I mentioned, I'm not even there for a full day so I've got one chance and I wanted to make the right choice. I'll be happy to post my reports, I'm visiting quite a few cities in a short time period so I'm sure I'll have something to contribute. Thanks again for your help.


The esteemed senior member FreebieFan is right. Since you are a newbie with limited posts, you should RTFF (read the board).

But, to make it easy for you, I recommend go to 37 Dundas Street (just off Nathan Road in Kowloon) and walk up one flight of stairs from street level. Choose your girl, then you'll walk up two more flights of stairs to a short-stay hotel floor. It will cost you around 520 HKD. Enjoy, then post about it here.

If that doesn't interest you, then try K-Pressure or one of the 141 girls.

If you need more info, then read the board. 37 Dundas, K Pressure and the 141 girls have all been discussed extensively here on ISG.

[JackTheLad2]

However, my experience mongering in HK is that they all ask before we get to the room.I tend to agree with this statement but it is only the WG's that make this sort of comment. The DH's never ask!

My masseuse, Sandy, whose services I used and on which I reported in the interests of research at the JJ Hotel, brought her own condoms, as did one or two of the WG's.

[Chantik]

Thanks for the reply. Maybe I should have but I didn't mention that I had read the first 9 pages of posts in this thread and the five most recent links to reports of distinction before I posted. Some of the reports were over a year old, one about 141 walkups mentioned a building that after extensive searching I discovered that it didn't even exist anymore. I'd read about 37 Dundas and K-Pressure but one said that the K-pressure girls weren't as nice as the ones at 37 Dundas; then I saw another where someone rated the 37 Dundas girls as 5 or 6 on a scale of ten.

What I was looking for was up to date information from someone with recent experience. As I mentioned, I'm not even there for a full day so I've got one chance and I wanted to make the right choice. I'll be happy to post my reports, I'm visiting quite a few cities in a short time period so I'm sure I'll have something to contribute. Thanks again for your help.You are probably better contacting an independent escort or an escort agency.

[Osuul]

Thanks for the reply. Maybe I should have but I didn't mention that I had read the first 9 pages of posts in this thread and the five most recent links to reports of distinction before I posted. Some of the reports were over a year old, one about 141 walkups mentioned a building that after extensive searching I discovered that it didn't even exist anymore. I'd read about 37 Dundas and K-Pressure but one said that the K-pressure girls weren't as nice as the ones at 37 Dundas; then I saw another where someone rated the 37 Dundas girls as 5 or 6 on a scale of ten.

What I was looking for was up to date information from someone with recent experience. As I mentioned, I'm not even there for a full day so I've got one chance and I wanted to make the right choice. I'll be happy to post my reports, I'm visiting quite a few cities in a short time period so I'm sure I'll have something to contribute. Thanks again for your help.Its all by chance, depending which time of the day, what weekday etc.

I had good looking girls in both places but I would say in average D37 is a little better.

If someone goes there 2 times and tells me all girls are 2s I would say he has no idea.

I have been to D37 about 12 to 15 times now and never seen the same girl twice.

Because they change so many times. Just invest the 500 HK and try them both so you can compare for yourself

[Chantik]

I tend to agree with this statement but it is only the WG's that make this sort of comment. The DH's never ask!

My masseuse, Sandy, whose services I used and on which I reported in the interests of research at the JJ Hotel, brought her own condoms, as did one or two of the WG's.Jack.

I find it hard to believe that a W / L doesn't have a condom. I know it happens but it is unprofessional.

[Member #4144]

Your beer may cost 20 or 25 dollars. But the ladies drink could be 200 to 300 dollars.

Thats why It is one drink and run with the lady.Hmmm, then it is not as much fun then, I think many people, like myself, enjoy the process of drinking and playing with the girl in bar before heading back to the hotel, so buying 4 or 5 such lady drinks at 80 each in Neptune 2 I won't even look at the tab, but if at 200, then like you said, had to run with the lady. These gogo places should really re-think their business model.

Fillmore

[Chantik]

Hmmm, then it is not as much fun then, I think many people, like myself, enjoy the process of drinking and playing with the girl in bar before heading back to the hotel, so buying 4 or 5 such lady drinks at 80 each in Neptune 2 I won't even look at the tab, but if at 200, then like you said, had to run with the lady. These gogo places should really re-think their business model.

FillmoreMy response is because guys / punters have complained about W / L's asking for 3 to 4 K for long time, W / L's asking for 2K short time. Guy agreeing and then the girl runs off after one pop or puts in a less than inspiring performance.

If you enjoy the process of drinking and playing with the girl. The two obvious bars are Makati and Forest. Some of the girls have a semi-professional attitude and will happily go home with the guy and hope they get money in the morning. But of course you run the risk of being with a girl who is only a DRINK COMMISSION girl.

Or maybe you are better to go to LKF / Soho for a few drinks and then travel to Wanchai find a girl, buy one drink and take out.

Go Go Bars have been around since the 1970's which suggests that the Business model is OK. And the investors have deep pockets.

[JackTheLad2]

Jack.

I find it hard to believe that a W / L doesn't have a condom. I know it happens but it is unprofessional.Whilst I tend to agree, I know of WG's who won't carry one in case they are in a bar that is "visited" by immigration / police. Whilst immigration are primarily interested in expired visas, it's a bit of a giveaway as to why they are there if their handbags are searched.

[Member #4144]

.Or maybe you are better to go to LKF / Soho for a few drinks and then travel to Wanchai find a girl, buy one drink and take out.Dear Chantik, you have excellent info, but not being a guy, you don't seem to get my point, the drinking and taking out had to be the SAME girl. Looks like still best bet is Naptune 2 then.

BTW, I see LKF is full of girls and I even recognized a WG from China once in club 97, but I have not seen any report of someone picking up from there. Do you know if that can be another hunting groud, albert a bit more difficult?

Fillmore

[Chantik]

Dear Chantik, you have excellent info, but not being a guy, you don't seem to get my point, the drinking and taking out had to be the SAME girl. Looks like still best bet is Naptune 2 then.

BTW, I see LKF is full of girls and I even recognized a WG from China once in club 97, but I have not seen any report of someone picking up from there. Do you know if that can be another hunting groud, albert a bit more difficult?

FillmoreI gave you two good suggestions in Makati or Forest. You could also consider Amazonia.

W / L is there to make money. So a professional W / L will not stay beyond two drinks. If she feels you don't want her to your room. Less professional the bar. The better your chance of seeking your kind of arrangement.

I know that guys would love to get a girl with the face and body that is 10, performance in bed that is 11, will follow you around for 24hrs, give you a cheap price. But how often you can achieve this objective is questionable.

Finally, W / L aren't dumb. They know for every 100 guys that walk into Escape. 30 are guys who want a girl for the night. 20 guys may be tempted and the 50 guys are there to have a drink and a good time with their mates.

[Chantik]

Whilst I tend to agree, I know of WG's who won't carry one in case they are in a bar that is "visited" by immigration / police. Whilst immigration are primarily interested in expired visas, it's a bit of a giveaway as to why they are there if their handbags are searched.You are right. There have been cases of police doing stop and search. This is definitely more the case in mainland China and Singapore.

I suppose my case is different being an independent worker.

[Yhddude13]

You are right. There have been cases of police doing stop and search. This is definitely more the case in mainland China and Singapore.

I suppose my case is different being an independent worker.I brought a Thai girl back to my hotel from escape he night before I left to go back to the us. In the morning I was packing and I offered her my leftover condoms, I always bring with me properly American sized ones. She said no, since she didn't want o get caught with them. Escorts in the uk always bring to you, whether they are British or fsu. It's different in HK.

[Johnny Rocket]

I first reviewed this girl in March 2010, when she was very new to the business and called herself Pearl. A few months later I called her up and she told me that she had moved to Wing Kut Street in Central (bordering Sheungwan) and had adopted Vivian as her name. I then visited her a few days later and she was delighted to see me, and was as sweet as before. Subsequently, she moved back to the Phoenix Building in Causeway Bay, and I have visited her a couple of times since then. You can find her on the * website.

Every time I saw her, including the first time, we would have deep, wet French kiss, plus all the usual blowjob and sex. And when we had shower together, I'the invariably finger her * and asshole, sometimes inserting my fingers into both holes at the same time.

The last time I saw her was about two months ago. After the usual French kiss and ass fingering in the shower, we went to bed and she gave me a gentle massage before going down on me. I suddenly had an urge for anal sex, and after some gentle persuasion, she agreed to let me poke her backdoor cherry, for an extra 200 dollars.

She put the raincoat on for me, and we proceeded to have vaginal sex first. After a little while, I flipped her over and got her to go on all fours on the bed. I stood on the floor, and fairly quickly forced my dick into her backdoor. She yelled that it hurt, and I stopped briefly before driving my way completely inside. After making sure that she was okay, I started to pound into her in a regular rhythm. Her asshole was really tight, and I didn't take me too long to shoot my load.

After sex, we showered together, with lots of French kissing and caressing. She never stopped complaining that I was too rough and made it hurt, and I had to comfort her that this was standard first time experience. She would not, however, promise me a second time.

She's a really sweet girl, and if you treat her nicely, may be you can have the same luck.I liked her a lot when she was first in that building and used to visit her regularly. I found the time to go back recently and she is not as GFE as I remember her being about a year ago. She was newer to the biz then. I don't think I'll visit her too frequently anymore. Still a nice girl though.

[Johnny Rocket]

I tend to agree with this statement but it is only the WG's that make this sort of comment. The DH's never ask!

My masseuse, Sandy, whose services I used and on which I reported in the interests of research at the JJ Hotel, brought her own condoms, as did one or two of the WG's.You seemed happy with Sandy. She is employed by the JJ hotel or you found her elsewhere? If so where? Stats?

[SexPerimenter]

Thanks, I was wondering it that might be the best option for me. I'm concerned that I may not get what I order though, kind of like shopping off the internet. In Amsterdam I'm used to window shopping until I find exactly what I'm looking for. I found my 10 there and see her now almost exclusively.

What's the best place to find independent escorts in HK, Craigslist? A 141 site?


You are probably better contacting an independent escort or an escort agency.

[JackTheLad2]

You seemed happy with Sandy. She is employed by the JJ hotel or you found her elsewhere? If so where? Stats?Despite the hotel advertising in the bedrooms a massage service, I had difficulty getting through to the extension. So I googled for hotel massage in Hong Kong. Plenty came up and I picked one at random. Can't remember which one (it might just have been hotelmassage. Com) but Sandy was sent along and prooved to be good company. 26 years of age, born and bred in Hong Kong and reasonable English. A bundle of fun and very GFE. After 1/2 hour massage came the inevitable question from her of my interest in extras and in the interests of research I went for the full bhoona. She was right into it and had multi orgasims during our various sexual exploits. $350 for the massage and the total cost came to $1000, which I thought was not bad value for a couple of hours of fun plus the massage.

[Chantik]

Thanks, I was wondering it that might be the best option for me. I'm concerned that I may not get what I order though, kind of like shopping off the internet. In Amsterdam I'm used to window shopping until I find exactly what I'm looking for. I found my 10 there and see her now almost exclusively.

What's the best place to find independent escorts in HK, Craigslist? A 141 site?Craigslist, adultwork, city of love, city of escorts. Variety of prices.

[Baudelairemod]

Hi everyone,

I have been living in HK for a few months and, although I have been keeping most of my action in Macau, I would like to try something decent closer to where I live. Therefore, does anyone of you know some nice places (I imagine in Kowloon) where to find attractive Russian girls? Don't get me wrong, I love Asian girls, but I think it would be great to try a Russian girl in the middle of Asia. I'm not looking for any escort-type service, nor a '141' solution. What I'd like is more of a walk-in style. Can anyone help?

Thanks!

[Kaplay]

Hi everyone,

I have been living in HK for a few months and, although I have been keeping most of my action in Macau, I would like to try something decent closer to where I live. Therefore, does anyone of you know some nice places (I imagine in Kowloon) where to find attractive Russian girls? Don't get me wrong, I love Asian girls, but I think it would be great to try a Russian girl in the middle of Asia. I'm not looking for any escort-type service, nor a '141' solution. What I'd like is more of a walk-in style. Can anyone help?

Thanks!Hi there,

I think a walk-in style, best bet is the numerous bars mentioned here in Wan Chai, (note, not the go go bars).141 site would have them and they are all in hotels.

Other bars in Kowloon, where I have seen one or 2 russians before is Hari's Bar in Holiday Inn, TST.

[Kaplay]

I gave you two good suggestions in Makati or Forest. You could also consider Amazonia.

W / L is there to make money. So a professional W / L will not stay beyond two drinks. If she feels you don't want her to your room. Less professional the bar. The better your chance of seeking your kind of arrangement.

I know that guys would love to get a girl with the face and body that is 10, performance in bed that is 11, will follow you around for 24hrs, give you a cheap price. But how often you can achieve this objective is questionable.

Finally, W / L aren't dumb. They know for every 100 guys that walk into Escape. 30 are guys who want a girl for the night. 20 guys may be tempted and the 50 guys are there to have a drink and a good time with their mates.I think that its still good to give the go go bar a visit to get the experience. By the way, Chantik, any of these types of go go bars on Kowloon side? TST?

LKF, will be just as much work in sweet talking the local girls. Again, I think sometimes, must of them probably looking for an expat boyfriend, so much easier for them.

[Chantik]

Hi everyone,

I have been living in HK for a few months and, although I have been keeping most of my action in Macau, I would like to try something decent closer to where I live. Therefore, does anyone of you know some nice places (I imagine in Kowloon) where to find attractive Russian girls? Don't get me wrong, I love Asian girls, but I think it would be great to try a Russian girl in the middle of Asia. I'm not looking for any escort-type service, nor a '141' solution. What I'd like is more of a walk-in style. Can anyone help?

Thanks!OMG.

Macau is full of Russian W / L.

Not so many in HK cause of tighter visa restrictions.

[Yhddude13]

OMG.

Macau is full of Russian W / L.

Not so many in HK cause of tighter visa restrictions.I hav seen some in escape. Although, the non-Asians tend to trend towards south Americans with silicon injected asses.

[Boarer]

the cockroaches usually scamper out of your way!

but i must admit i don't understand, what is it these guys are doing? gang-[CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) the girls?most likely. fear that chantik or someone she knows got a close look at the van's interior.

[Boarer]

One girl I met was happy to go BB after she knew I'd cum.Dooh. No need to close the barn door.


D / H VS W / L.

Don't call Indo's Brown F. Ing machines for no reason. They are naughty girls! And happily talk to their friends about their conquests.Wow. Your info is closer to mine. Maybe you are a biker. It is actually LBFM and it is not for Indos only. Though there are an abundance of tiny Indo DH in HK. No height restrictions like the airlines!

All girls talk and compare. I have known girls from both ends of the social economic spectrum who can boast of 3+ conquests on Sundays. But slows down on the weekday to 1+ sometimes at the workplace.

I like naughty though some are careful about being seen by their friends with a man. So no PDA in Victoria Park but okay in Wanchai.


The pill still isn't very common in Asia in general.Sorry Mate. No scripts needed for some parts of Asia. It is US$5+ here in HK. US$2+ in the US based on subsidy. US$0. 50+ in Thailand. And so forth.


of reuniting with the family in Jakarta with the latest Chia pet in tow!
Think Indo girls think if they get pregnant. The man will stay with them. And then the baby and eventually the woman will get a GWAILO passport.Kind of noticed that girls want to procreate while boys want to copulate. Single Filipinas tend to be older and the biological clock is banging in their heads so many just want a kid, even if the man does not come with it. Some of the younger Filipinas and Indos are just using it as a trap. Like some of the other posters, I have had deflating moments wrestling the wrapper on and arguing the merits of wrappers at the worst possible times.

[Chantik]

Most likely. Fear that Chantik or someone she knows got a close look at the van's interior.Too smart to get trapped in a van. And the guys are Pakistani. Not my type.

[Daddy San]

What is the deal in Victoria Park?

Since the ladies are D / H, I assume it's weekends only, Sunays only or Saturdays also?

Afternoons?

Do they just stroll around and you try to strike up a conversation?

Are there any particular areas / bars etc. Where they congregate?

Thanks for your input.

DS

[Sugoi]

i'm staying at the ritz in hk for one day and would like to hear your recommendations for where to go nearby (or easy to get to) for a full service gfe with a cute, young chinese gal. a fs soapy massage sounds like fun. where to go and what should i expect to pay?

thanks in advanceanother option if you're adventurous is to take a taxi to the langham place hotel. the taxi will drop you off in a driveway. once you get out of the taxi, walk straight through the driveway and turn right. as you walk down that street, you will see several sw and a bunch of the yellow / pink / green sign places. a few are in english but most are in chinese. if you see some numbers around $380ish, walk right up the stairs. unless you have a real preference, tell the guy you want a filipina or thai because they are the cheapest and you're probably going to get one of those anyways. i've had much better quality and lower prices than at kp and 37d.

you can also try any of the foot massage places. i've had fs at a couple of them along with a decent massage but the quality of the girls is not as great.

there is one place a block over that has vietnamese therapists that charge $150 i think (maybe $250 i can't remember). they answer the door in short dresses and will take their tops off and only give a hj but the ones i've had are lookers.

of course there's always the night market and the $100 shops or sw. walk behind the stalls and you will see them standing there. if you see an old lady sitting on a stool, walk up the stairs and let her follow you. she'll probably take you to a thai girl or two that will cost $100 but it is low class. i once waited outside a curtain while i listened to a guy pound a girl for 5 minutes and then it was my turn. normally i would have left but it was a humid day, it was air-conditioned, and i only had 45 minutes before i had to meet some people. i just made sure everything was covered including the bj which they will normally do without cover.

there's also the 141 girls. there are so many places but for ease, you can take a taxi to the mira hotel on nathan. when you get out of the taxi, head east to the next building, the famous champagne court. go in the elevators to the top floor and have fun. walk around and ring some doorbells and go down floor by floor if you don't see anything you like.

lastly, if you want to spend a little more, any of the saunas should provide something but the prices will vary considerably. i'd like to see some recs for decent saunas in hk at reasonable prices.

that should give you enough different options for your 1 day there. enjoy the ritz. i've stayed there a few times and it is one of the nicest hotels i have ever stayed at. if you don't have lounge access, ask for a tour of it. best lounge i have ever seen.

[WildHawk]

What is the deal in Victoria Park?

Since the ladies are D / H, I assume it's weekends only, Sunays only or Saturdays also?

Afternoons?

Do they just stroll around and you try to strike up a conversation?

Are there any particular areas / bars etc. Where they congregate?

Thanks for your input.

DSYou can find D / H in Victoria Park most any day of the week, including ones taking their young wards out for a day of fun. Easy to strike up a conversation, but never simply assume they are W / G or up for fun in bed. Having said that, I know a lot of guys who have made easy scores and nice afternoon romps from Filipinas and Indos (most in Wan Chai outside the bar area tend to be Indonesians on the days off). I have gotten catcalls and yoo-hoos from girls as I've run around the nice jogging track there, and I am certainly no Olympic athlete.

The locals tend to be indifferent to your existence (and I have seen this treatment even from well-built, youngsters who look like investment bankers; even more, the Cantonese suffer no poseurs. Back to the park, Sunday, as you know is the big day off and the park is chockablock full of Indos, but many many are Indonesbians of convenience and you might make an Angry Bird photo contestant even angrier by hitting on her girl. I have chatted some up, but frankly never tried to pull action as the young thangs didn't seem to be much interested. But give it a try and report in.

[SexPerimenter]

wow, thanks for the detailed reply, that's a lot of specific info that i (and probably a lot of other guys too) will find handy.

i'm always up for an adventure. not so much when it comes to in-call or escorts because i'm kind of picky and i like to shop around and pick exactly what i want rather than be surprised and settle with whoever shows up or whoever is next up in the queue. the amsterdam rld is great for that, so in the rld in barcelona by the ramblas raval but the quality isn't the same as in the 'dam.

on my trip i'll be stopping in hk, japan, thailand, etc. and my plan was to go for locals. where i'm from (amsterdam) there's no shortage of women from mainland china who do massage and at least a hj, quite a few thai hookers (one of my favorite girls here is thai) but so far, no japanese.

i'd like to stick with chinese gals when i'm in hk but if i find a cute thai or vietnamese spinner in hk, i'd be okay with that. in tokyo though i definitely want to find a j girl.

thanks again for the details. i've noticed that there's a lot of shorthand used and assumptions made by some of the frequent posters. i've read many references to a certain place but when i search the forum, i can never find an address. in a foreign city, with a different alphabet, directions or coordinates is a real help in finding the place.

the champagne court and the street by the langham place hotel sound the most interesting to me. do you know the name of the street? or the address of the champagne court?

thanks again for your help.


another option if you're adventurous is to take a taxi to the langham place hotel. the taxi will drop you off in a driveway. once you get out of the taxi, walk straight through the driveway and turn right. as you walk down that street, you will see several sw and a bunch of the yellow / pink / green sign places. a few are in english but most are in chinese. if you see some numbers around $380ish, walk right up the stairs. unless you have a real preference, tell the guy you want a filipina or thai because they are the cheapest and you're probably going to get one of those anyways. i've had much better quality and lower prices than at kp and 37d.

you can also try any of the foot massage places. i've had fs at a couple of them along with a decent massage but the quality of the girls is not as great.

there is one place a block over that has vietnamese therapists that charge $150 i think (maybe $250 i can't remember). they answer the door in short dresses and will take their tops off and only give a hj but the ones i've had are lookers.

of course there's always the night market and the $100 shops or sw. walk behind the stalls and you will see them standing there. if you see an old lady sitting on a stool, walk up the stairs and let her follow you. she'll probably take you to a thai girl or two that will cost $100 but it is low class. i once waited outside a curtain while i listened to a guy pound a girl for 5 minutes and then it was my turn. normally i would have left but it was a humid day, it was air-conditioned, and i only had 45 minutes before i had to meet some people. i just made sure everything was covered including the bj which they will normally do without cover.

there's also the 141 girls. there are so many places but for ease, you can take a taxi to the mira hotel on nathan. when you get out of the taxi, head east to the next building, the famous champagne court. go in the elevators to the top floor and have fun. walk around and ring some doorbells and go down floor by floor if you don't see anything you like.

lastly, if you want to spend a little more, any of the saunas should provide something but the prices will vary considerably. i'd like to see some recs for decent saunas in hk at reasonable prices.

that should give you enough different options for your 1 day there. enjoy the ritz. i've stayed there a few times and it is one of the nicest hotels i have ever stayed at. if you don't have lounge access, ask for a tour of it. best lounge i have ever seen.

[Member #4271]

No one has mentioned it lately but there are a lot of SWs on Mody Road in East Tsim Sha Tsui. When I stayed at the International Grand Stanford a few years ago, I was stunned by the ladies out there at night. Very open and easy to pick from. There was one Chinese girl dressed in a nice cocktail dress who was quite lovely. I should have picked her. Got someone sluttier though.

I prefer the Wanchai scene now but Mody Road is quite convenient if you are anywhere near the area.


Wow, Thanks for the detailed reply, that's a lot of specific info that I (and probably a lot of other guys too) will find handy.

I'm always up for an adventure. Not so much when it comes to in-call or escorts because I'm kind of picky and I like to shop around and pick exactly what I want rather than be surprised and settle with whoever shows up or whoever is next up in the queue. The Amsterdam RLD is great for that, so in the RLD in Barcelona by the Ramblas Raval but the quality isn't the same as in the 'Dam.

On my trip I'll be stopping in HK, Japan, Thailand, etc. And my plan was to go for locals. Where I'm from (Amsterdam) There's no shortage of women from mainland China who do massage and at least a HJ, quite a few Thai hookers (one of my favorite girls here is Thai) but so far, no Japanese.

I'd like to stick with Chinese gals when I'm in HK but if I find a cute Thai or Vietnamese spinner in HK, I'd be okay with that. In Tokyo though I definitely want to find a J girl.

Thanks again for the details. I've noticed that there's a lot of shorthand used and assumptions made by some of the frequent posters. I've read many references to a certain place but when I search the forum, I can never find an address. In a foreign city, with a different alphabet, directions or coordinates is a real help in finding the place.

The Champagne Court and the street by the Langham Place hotel sound the most interesting to me. Do you know the name of the street? Or the address of the Champagne Court?

Thanks again for your help.

[Sammon]

No one has mentioned it lately but there are a lot of SWs on Mody Road in East Tsim Sha Tsui. When I stayed at the International Grand Stanford a few years ago, I was stunned by the ladies out there at night. Very open and easy to pick from. There was one Chinese girl dressed in a nice cocktail dress who was quite lovely. I should have picked her. Got someone sluttier though.

I prefer the Wanchai scene now but Mody Road is quite convenient if you are anywhere near the area.There are many SW around that area but I need not find any good looking ones. You can also find some Phi, Indian. Once I talked to a passable Phi girl. She started with 800 dollars. I did not partake as I was late for my train back to Shenzhen.

[Chantik]

There are many SW around that area but I need not find any good looking ones. You can also find some Phi, Indian. Once I talked to a passable Phi girl. She started with 800 dollars. I did not partake as I was late for my train back to Shenzhen.Beware the SW's in TST.

Been many a guy who has invited one back to his room and been robbed.

[Chantik]

What is the deal in Victoria Park?

Since the ladies are D / H, I assume it's weekends only, Sunays only or Saturdays also?

Afternoons?

Do they just stroll around and you try to strike up a conversation?

Are there any particular areas / bars etc. Where they congregate?

Thanks for your input.

DSAs an Indo I can give more info.

You can find Indo girls in Victoria Park any day of the week. Day or night.

Many of the girls in the park at night. Are in-between contracts and stay in boarding houses. Can be easy to get one of these girls to go with you. Seeing that they sleep eight to a room.

Sunday is probably the worst day of the week. It is so crowded in the park.

Best thing is to be nice, chat with the girls and get their phone number. A few sms's during the week get their interest. And meet next time.

Nearly all the Wanchai girls (that is D / H). Go to VIC Park first to catch up with friends or eat lunch.

Lots of opportunities at VIC Park if you have time and patience.

And don't forget about Kowloon Park in TST.

[BionicMan]

As an Indo I can give more info.

You can find Indo girls in Victoria Park any day of the week. Day or night.

Many of the girls in the park at night. Are in-between contracts and stay in boarding houses. Can be easy to get one of these girls to go with you. Seeing that they sleep eight to a room.

Sunday is probably the worst day of the week. It is so crowded in the park.

Best thing is to be nice, chat with the girls and get their phone number. A few sms's during the week get their interest. And meet next time.

Nearly all the Wanchai girls (that is D / H). Go to VIC Park first to catch up with friends or eat lunch.

Lots of opportunities at VIC Park if you have time and patience.

And don't forget about Kowloon Park in TST.This is what I call "Insider info".

Chantik, you are adding quite some valuable information! Far more than senior members! Hat's off

[Timewaster]

No one has mentioned it lately but there are a lot of SWs on Mody Road in East Tsim Sha Tsui. When I stayed at the International Grand Stanford a few years ago, I was stunned by the ladies out there at night. Very open and easy to pick from. There was one Chinese girl dressed in a nice cocktail dress who was quite lovely. I should have picked her. Got someone sluttier though.

I prefer the Wanchai scene now but Mody Road is quite convenient if you are anywhere near the area.What time do the girls on mody road start showing up?

I was there around 10-11 pm about a year ago and didn't see any.

[Boarer]

Too smart to get trapped in a van. And the guys are Pakistani. Not my type.Hubris. Be careful. Glad to hear you did not caught.

[Boarer]

This is what I call "Insider info".

Chantik, you are adding quite some valuable information! Far more than senior members! Hat's offAgreed. I found that many obvious punters and their GFs are willing to share information and advice freely. As another poster pointed out, some of the girls are also willing to cast their nets wider and meet you on the side. That is usually the best and most current information. Most DH and some WL will do the same.

Just last month, I bumped into a pretty DH on the wrong side of 28 who, after a ten minute conversation, was offering to show me the sites (mongering) of HK on her day off. She turns out to be a Wanchai regular and, as most women in that age group, is comfortable with it.

Last year while touring HK by KP, I came upon a group with four 20ish very pretty petite Filipina girls. The mamasan quoted 100. It was 9P at night and too good to be true so I declined. Another one to add my list of passes.

[Member #4271]

What time do the girls on mody road start showing up?

I was there around 10-11 pm about a year ago and didn't see any.I was in that area in August 2009 and it seemed like they were out before midnight. This would be that little park area near the shops and the big sauna, about a block or so from the International Grand Stanford.

I haven't been to that part of HK in 2 years; once I found Wan Chai and the 141 scene, I never bothered again. If I was staying in that area, I probably would try again.

[Member #4698]

... SWs on Mody Road in East Tsim Sha Tsui. When I stayed at the International Grand Stanford a few years ago, I was stunned by the ladies out there at night. Very open and easy to pick from. There was one Chinese girl dressed in a nice cocktail dress who was quite lovely. I should have picked her. Got someone sluttier though. I prefer the Wanchai scene now but Mody Road is quite convenient if you are anywhere near the area.

There are not that many SW's on Mody on a given night (probably around 20) and the girls are spread out in one's and two's inside of a two block radius, but there is enough talent to make it worth your while to check it out. Start looking around 11pm. You will begin to spot them after you pass the Outback Steakhouse on your right as you walk down Mody towards the Grand Stanford. They are well dressed, but unlike other women out for dinner or what not, the SW's are just hanging around and will give you the look and offer their services if you approach them. Just walk up to one and say hi or slowly walk past her more than once. Passing Sticky Fingers' bar new location there is the Mody Road Garden on the right hand side of Mody and on the other side of the road is the Regal Kowloon and then an open courtyard (forgot what the name of the courtyard is, but there are open air restaurants and it is a cool urban area). This is the place. Walk slowly around the courtyard then cross the street and walk back to the Outback. Then turnaround and walk back to the Grand Stanford once again. You can't miss them. I wrote a trip report from my Feb 2010 experience with two – the mama and her girl. I shagged both for the grand total of 1000hk and the mama, who reminded me of a Chinese Tina Fey, stayed to early morning. I included pictures - see my report. It was fun. I can think of a number of reasons why this venue is good: 1. These are Chinese girls not Filipinas, Indos, or Viets and they are pretty. 2. The price for ST is between 500hk and 700hk (although I am sure LT is negotiable) which is a lot less than say what the price for imported talent at Neptune II are asking. 3. The girls are well dressed, look sexy, and are very presentable when walking into the Nikko or the Grand Stanford if you happen to be staying in one of these hotels. 4. It is ST and I never had a bad experience. 5. Sometimes I like to hunt out of doors. 6. They are Chinese. Oh yeah, I said that already. Anyway, this should be on a short list of places to try in HKG. I will definitely go there again when I get to town.

[FreebieFan]

As an Indo I can give more info.

You can find Indo girls in Victoria Park any day of the week. Day or night.

Many of the girls in the park at night. Are in-between contracts and stay in boarding houses. Can be easy to get one of these girls to go with you. Seeing that they sleep eight to a room.

Sunday is probably the worst day of the week. It is so crowded in the park.

Best thing is to be nice, chat with the girls and get their phone number. A few sms's during the week get their interest. And meet next time.

Nearly all the Wanchai girls (that is D / H). Go to VIC Park first to catch up with friends or eat lunch.

Lots of opportunities at VIC Park if you have time and patience.

And don't forget about Kowloon Park in TST.Don't forget all the little Indo restaurants that are all around Causeway bay also. They can be great pick up places if you go there as a white guy and order your Soto Ayam etc. Soon enough a friendly face will come in and you get talking then off you go.

[Johnny Rocket]

There are not that many SW's on Mody on a given night (probably around 20) and the girls are spread out in one's and two's inside of a two block radius, but there is enough talent to make it worth your while to check it out. Start looking around 11pm. You will begin to spot them after you pass the Outback Steakhouse on your right as you walk down Mody towards the Grand Stanford. They are well dressed, but unlike other women out for dinner or what not, the SW's are just hanging around and will give you the look and offer their services if you approach them. Just walk up to one and say hi or slowly walk past her more than once. Passing Sticky Fingers' bar new location there is the Mody Road Garden on the right hand side of Mody and on the other side of the road is the Regal Kowloon and then an open courtyard (forgot what the name of the courtyard is, but there are open air restaurants and it is a cool urban area). This is the place. Walk slowly around the courtyard then cross the street and walk back to the Outback. Then turnaround and walk back to the Grand Stanford once again. You can't miss them. I wrote a trip report from my Feb 2010 experience with two – the mama and her girl. I shagged both for the grand total of 1000hk and the mama, who reminded me of a Chinese Tina Fey, stayed to early morning. I included pictures - see my report. It was fun. I can think of a number of reasons why this venue is good: 1. These are Chinese girls not Filipinas, Indos, or Viets and they are pretty. 2. The price for ST is between 500hk and 700hk (although I am sure LT is negotiable) which is a lot less than say what the price for imported talent at Neptune II are asking. 3. The girls are well dressed, look sexy, and are very presentable when walking into the Nikko or the Grand Stanford if you happen to be staying in one of these hotels. 4. It is ST and I never had a bad experience. 5. Sometimes I like to hunt out of doors. 6. They are Chinese. Oh yeah, I said that already. Anyway, this should be on a short list of places to try in HKG. I will definitely go there again when I get to town.That post is actually from December 2010-this forum uses American style dates. Link here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?951-General-Reports&p=1099214&viewfull=1#post1099214

[Johnny Rocket]

There are many SW around that area but I need not find any good looking ones. You can also find some Phi, Indian. Once I talked to a passable Phi girl. She started with 800 dollars. I did not partake as I was late for my train back to Shenzhen.By Phi I assume you mean Filipina?

Are the Indians hot?

[JackTheLad2]

No one has mentioned it lately but there are a lot of SWs on Mody Road in East Tsim Sha Tsui. When I stayed at the International Grand Stanford a few years ago, I was stunned by the ladies out there at night. Very open and easy to pick from. There was one Chinese girl dressed in a nice cocktail dress who was quite lovely. I should have picked her. Got someone sluttier though.Brings back happy memories. Tried a few when I stayed in the Butterfly Boutique Hotel in Pratt Ave which is only a few minutes walk away. The hotel was recommended by a punter here.

Had a great time. The girls (all Chinese) were attractive and presentable and, the main thing, good in bed. Can't remember the cost but not as much as you pay in Wanchai. There is also Mody Bar where one or two WG's hung out. I never liked Sticky Fingers but that's because I was never lucky there. Maybe just picked the wrong time. The SW's are out and about most of the time. I could see them hanging about from about 9. 00pm when I was in the Mody bar.

[JackTheLad2]

That post is actually from December 2010-this forum uses American style dates. Link here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?951-General-Reports&p=1099214&viewfull=1#post1099214I remember reading the report at the time but I had another read, word for word. Brilliant!

[Member #4698]

Brings back happy memories. Tried a few when I stayed in the Butterfly Boutique Hotel in Pratt Ave which is only a few minutes walk away. Had a great time. The girls (all Chinese) were attractive and presentable and, the main thing, good in bed. There is also Mody Bar where one or two WG's hung out. I never liked Sticky Fingers but that's because I was never lucky there. Maybe just picked the wrong time. The SW's are out and about most of the time. I could see them hanging about from about 9. 00pm when I was in the Mody bar.I was last in HKG in March of this year. I went to Hari's bar and it was dismal. 50 guys and maybe 5 not so pretty girls not counting the rock band. Sticky was a disappointment too. There were a lot of imported women from various countries like Indo, Thailand, Philippines and even some South Americans, but none of them were very attractive. I think Mody bar is a good bar to just hang out in after work, have a beer with a friend and enjoy the music. You never know, if you hang out there for about an hour, what may come your way. I saw a couple of attractive Chinese SW's hanging about on the Mody Street and in the courtyard in front of the Regal across from the Grand Stanford. I was 99% sure my Tina Fey mama would not be there, but I couldn't help looking for her anyway. I picked a very pretty 22 yr old girl instead and took her to my room at the Nikko. It was 500hk for a very good one pop session which included soapy shower, BBBJ, and a good shag in multiple positions. The girl knew only a little English (that's the one drawback with these girls) , but was very sweet and had a pleasant personality.

I just booked my hotel reservations for my next trip this FEB. I waited a long time because Hong Kong hotel rates seem to have gone through the roof. In Feb 2011, I stayed at the Novotel Century in Wanchai for $100 and later in March 2011, I stayed at the Nikko for $130. Now I was getting quoted $170 for the Century and $195 for the Nikko. I believe the Regal was offering a deal for $130 / night, but I passed on that. Thanks to my Chase Priority Intercontinental visa card I had an free anniversary night and accumulated points so I booked the Crowne Plaza Causeway Bay for gratis. I hear it is a pretty nice hotel and I am assuming it is GF. Guys, do yourself a favor and get a good card that pays dividends like the Capital One card or the Chase Priority Intercontinental or Chase Marriott Reward card. The Chase cards charge a annual fee, but you make that up and more with an annual free night. In addition all these cards have zero fx fees. I am just observing how Hong Kong hotel rates are getting pretty crazy. You can still find some decent hotels in Wanchai for $100 or a little less, but they are getting harder to find all the time. I mean the Novotel Century for $170 – that's ridiculous.

The girls in the Wanchai bars seem to be asking a lot more money nowadays too. I will pay up occasionally (1500hk for multiple shags is my max) because I am on vacation and just passing through Hong Kong for a couple of days on my way to greener pastures, but only if the girl is really hot and she passes the interview. But the thing is, I prefer the local fruit over the import variety all else being equal. I am really starting to get a hard on for Chinese women. I find them very attractive. My favorite actress in the world is Qi Shu. What a hot babe! It is funny because for the last 15 years or so, I have been almost exclusively fixated on spinner types from Thailand and Cambodia. But ever since I started visiting Macau a few years ago, I have been increasingly getting into taller. 5 feet 5inch / 6inch Chinese girls with athletic bodies and round firm 'b' cup breasts. Luckily you can find these girls in Hong Kong on Mody Street, at 37 Dundas, and on the 141 site. I can't' get enough of these type girls although I still love Thai spinners. I can't see going to South East Asia and not stopping off in LOS for a couple of weeks, but I also can't see coming here and not visiting HKG and Macau too. Life is a bountiful feast.

[Sammon]

By Phi I assume you mean Filipina?

Are the Indians hot?Yes, Phi is for Philippinas. Indian girls had good bodies with big boobs (padded bras?) but the face needed some plastic surgery. I heard from somebody these Indian women can be had for 300 HKD. It seems they are from brothels in India regularly sent to Honk Kong and Singapore to make some money for the Mafia. If it is true the hygiene could be suspect.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

You've got to love Hong Kong nights in November. At this time of the year, you can party outside without the sauna factor and your boxer shorts stay dry. The frigid, snow laden winds from Mongolia are nowhere to be seen and short skirts are still practical. I'm aware of this as I wake from my afternoon nap without the usual pool of sweat that I am accustomed to. Sweat or not, its shower time followed by trimming in appropriate areas. Its a special night tonight, so presentation is more relevant than usual.

Cleaned up and wearing fresh linen, I am the classic thirty-something 'gweilo' working in Hong Kong, lightly freckled and still optimistic about the state of the world.

If you were to ask me what I do here, the simple, (and honest) , answer would be that I don't actually know. Most days excepting holidays, I occupy a desk for a few hours a day, join my colleagues for a long lunch, then usually get home by 1 pm. In return, a large amount of money is transferred into my bank account each month, an arrangement which suits me and keeps me in the manner I am accustomed to.

Closing the door to my apartment on the way out, I am greeted by Maydel, the winsome DH who lives with the Chinese family next door. I love the way she rolls the 'are' of 'sir' in her smile filled Hello. She is a simple girl who loves nothing better than to cook for me most Sundays and attend to my needs which are many. She cries when she Skypes her family on my laptop and then drags me to bed for consolation. I take my responsibilities in this area very seriously and she is suitably appreciative. In my home country she would stop the traffic, here she is little more than a slave to a local family whose idea of culture is keeping rabbits inside and singing along to ABBA songs in Cantonese. She blows me a kiss as I head out and with a wink and a smile I'm out the door.

Living close the MTR station has its advantages, although I prefer not to use the disease incubator styled trains unless there are no better options. Tonight as usual, most passengers are sleeping while standing. In a kind of soporific daze, while I on the other hand, keep an eye out for touts and pick pockets. I find myself gazing at the couple across the aisle and realize its one of those awful Indonesian 'partnerships' where one girl makes herself as squat and ugly as possible, while the other ends up looking half decent. I have little time for these 'lesbians of convenience' and judging by the looks of several passengers, my sentiment is shared. I am reminded of Oscar The Grouch babysitting Katy Perry as I give them a last glance and leave the train.

I exit close to the fragrant harbor in an area notorious for several things, including drunk sailors and sardonic expats with ego's matched only by the size of their wallets. Some of them I actually work with, but there is no recognition.

On another occasion I might stop and join them for a few cold ales, but tonight is different, I have a rendezvous to keep and time is short.

To be continued.Nice post mate. Love the job description!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Guys,

With great regret I would like to inform you that Neptune II in Wanchai is a racist bar. Any Asian who wanted to enter the bar was charged 150. 200 HKD and this did not include any drink. All whites were given free entrance. I appeal to all, irrespective of their race to boycott this bar. Let us bring some sense of humanity in them. The bouncers too were playing dirty. I am not against anyone personally but the system. Let us put an end to all this crap. Thailand is much better.

Obviously I will not be in a position to monitor the response as I am flying to Dubai from Colombo and there I cannot access ISG though many are able to do it.

Regards,

KOOLAt least you could still pay to get in. In Japan and Korea there are many bars where white men are explicitly not welcome at all. There are even signs on the doors that say no 'gaijin' meaning foreigners are not allowed inside for any price. You should also understand that Asian men, in particular Chinese men, are considered by many to be notoriously cheap, which makes management's decision to disallow entry to them unless they lay down some cash up front simply a savvy and well-informed business decision. The last thing a bar owner needs is a group of guys standing around ogling the girls while not spending any money and in the meantime pissing off all the girls as they're getting in the way of the white customers who do intend to blow some cash. Can't say that I blame the management at all, really. But don't take it personally.

[Sugoi]

Wow, Thanks for the detailed reply, that's a lot of specific info that I (and probably a lot of other guys too) will find handy.

I'm always up for an adventure. Not so much when it comes to in-call or escorts because I'm kind of picky and I like to shop around and pick exactly what I want rather than be surprised and settle with whoever shows up or whoever is next up in the queue. The Amsterdam RLD is great for that, so in the RLD in Barcelona by the Ramblas Raval but the quality isn't the same as in the 'Dam.

On my trip I'll be stopping in HK, Japan, Thailand, etc. And my plan was to go for locals. Where I'm from (Amsterdam) There's no shortage of women from mainland China who do massage and at least a HJ, quite a few Thai hookers (one of my favorite girls here is Thai) but so far, no Japanese.

I'd like to stick with Chinese gals when I'm in HK but if I find a cute Thai or Vietnamese spinner in HK, I'd be okay with that. In Tokyo though I definitely want to find a J girl.

Thanks again for the details. I've noticed that there's a lot of shorthand used and assumptions made by some of the frequent posters. I've read many references to a certain place but when I search the forum, I can never find an address. In a foreign city, with a different alphabet, directions or coordinates is a real help in finding the place.

The Champagne Court and the street by the Langham Place hotel sound the most interesting to me. Do you know the name of the street? Or the address of the Champagne Court?

Thanks again for your help.I'm looking at google maps and see that Champagne Court is on Kimberly Road just East of Nathan. It is literally next door to the Mira hotel.

For the pink sign places, walk down Shanghai street between Shantung and Soy and you'll see a bunch of places. I think the Viet place is on Reclamation just south of Shatung on the west side of the street.

In Japan, you have to try a soapland. I think I posted a review of a place I went to a few months ago. If you've never done a soapland, don't miss it.

Going by the Philippines?

[Yhddude13]

I was last in HKG in March of this year. I went to Hari's bar and it was dismal. 50 guys and maybe 5 not so pretty girls not counting the rock band. Sticky was a disappointment too. There were a lot of imported women from various countries like Indo, Thailand, Philippines and even some South Americans, but none of them were very attractive. I think Mody bar is a good bar to just hang out in after work, have a beer with a friend and enjoy the music. You never know, if you hang out there for about an hour, what may come your way. I saw a couple of attractive Chinese SW's hanging about on the Mody Street and in the courtyard in front of the Regal across from the Grand Stanford. I was 99% sure my Tina Fey mama would not be there, but I couldn't help looking for her anyway. I picked a very pretty 22 yr old girl instead and took her to my room at the Nikko. It was 500hk for a very good one pop session which included soapy shower, BBBJ, and a good shag in multiple positions. The girl knew only a little English (that's the one drawback with these girls) , but was very sweet and had a pleasant personality.

I just booked my hotel reservations for my next trip this FEB. I waited a long time because Hong Kong hotel rates seem to have gone through the roof. In Feb 2011, I stayed at the Novotel Century in Wanchai for $100 and later in March 2011, I stayed at the Nikko for $130. Now I was getting quoted $170 for the Century and $195 for the Nikko. I believe the Regal was offering a deal for $130 / night, but I passed on that. Thanks to my Chase Priority Intercontinental visa card I had an free anniversary night and accumulated points so I booked the Crowne Plaza Causeway Bay for gratis. I hear it is a pretty nice hotel and I am assuming it is GF. Guys, do yourself a favor and get a good card that pays dividends like the Capital One card or the Chase Priority Intercontinental or Chase Marriott Reward card. The Chase cards charge a annual fee, but you make that up and more with an annual free night. In addition all these cards have zero fx fees. I am just observing how Hong Kong hotel rates are getting pretty crazy. You can still find some decent hotels in Wanchai for $100 or a little less, but they are getting harder to find all the time. I mean the Novotel Century for $170 – that's ridiculous.

The girls in the Wanchai bars seem to be asking a lot more money nowadays too. I will pay up occasionally (1500hk for multiple shags is my max) because I am on vacation and just passing through Hong Kong for a couple of days on my way to greener pastures, but only if the girl is really hot and she passes the interview. But the thing is, I prefer the local fruit over the import variety all else being equal. I am really starting to get a hard on for Chinese women. I find them very attractive. My favorite actress in the world is Qi Shu. What a hot babe! It is funny because for the last 15 years or so, I have been almost exclusively fixated on spinner types from Thailand and Cambodia. But ever since I started visiting Macau a few years ago, I have been increasingly getting into taller. 5 feet 5inch / 6inch Chinese girls with athletic bodies and round firm 'be' cup breasts. Luckily you can find these girls in Hong Kong on Mody Street, at 37 Dundas, and on the 141 site. I can't' get enough of these type girls although I still love Thai spinners. I can't see going to South East Asia and not stopping off in LOS for a couple of weeks, but I also can't see coming here and not visiting HKG and Macau too. Life is a bountiful feast.I have been coming to HK now for a year, and my first time I picked up a girl from Hari's. She was ok, but turns out she didn't shave her pits, so I dumped her after 1 fuck. I went to Hari's again a few days later and when they were closing I left and saw a girl and tried to break the ice by asking for directions to my hotel. She was from Mongolia. I asked for the street not my hotel, she didn't know but asked if I want to go to wanchai. I had never been, and I thought how adventurous going in a cab with a stranger to a place I never had been to. So not me. Anyhow, that how I learned were wanchai is. I always stay in Kowloon, and I always go over to Hari's see that it is dead and go to wanchai. In the end that is were he pussy is.

BTW, I need up taking the Mongol home, not a perfect body, but great fun. Really into it.

[Boarer]

At least you could still pay to get in. In Japan and Korea there are many bars where white men are explicitly not welcome at all. There are even signs on the doors that say no 'gaijin' meaning foreigners are not allowed inside for any price. You should also understand that Asian men, in particular Chinese men, are considered by many to be notoriously cheap, which makes management's decision to disallow entry to them unless they lay down some cash up front simply a savvy and well-informed business decision. The last thing a bar owner needs is a group of guys standing around ogling the girls while not spending any money and in the meantime pissing off all the girls as they're getting in the way of the white customers who do intend to blow some cash. Can't say that I blame the management at all, really. But don't take it personally.Think the idea goes all ways. And if you pollute the girls, the bar will loose their regular and local customers. The Jakarta posts were talking about how the Japanese and Koreans get a leg up at the bars. Those guys can blow serious money.

I have had the nicest and sweetest non pros (or at least I did not pay and they did not ask) in Japan. Definitely worth a try.

[SexPerimenter]

I went to 37 Dundas, asked to see three girls and picked the best of the lot. I don't recall her name, Shen Shen, Jzhen Jzhen, something repeated (I know that narrows it down to a half a billion.) We showered together, had a little BBBJ in the shower and moved to the bed, she did a bunch of body kissing, nipple licking and some more BBBJ. She slid a condom on me and did some cowgirl and asian cowgirl then wanted me to do missionary and doggie. No kissing, just a couple pecks on the lips. She was okay but not the experience I was looking for.

I walked around for a while and saw a sign at 163 portland street, to the right (N) of the 7 Eleven that advertised Russian, HK, Chinese, Thai and Indo girls at different prices. I went up and asked to see a couple HK and Chinese girls. They brought me one and said she was the only one available. I paid 360, showered and pretty much the same routine as at 37 Dundas. Based on her, I wouldn't recommend that place. Who knows how it might pan out on a different day or time (this was around 21:00 on a Saturday).

Walked down Portland street (didn't see any streetwalkers between Dundas and Waterloo BTW) and went to K-Pressure on Woosung St just north of Nathan road. I asked to see a few girls, they brought one friendly and aggressive girl named Angel, I asked to see the other girls and they brought in Happy. There were no more available and Happy was the best of the two so I paid the 400 and went upstairs and paid 110 for the room.

Happy was very friendly, she had her tongue in my mouth most of the 45 minutes. She was a short, cute young appearing girl of mid to late 20's with a nice tight body and a round ass, her boobs were small but a little droopy. We soaped up in the shower and I asked for the air mattress to be laid on the floor. She threw a towel on it and soaked it with warm water. She hopped on top of my back and slid around like crazy. She alternated body to body massage and scrubbing and spraying me with the shower head. She cleaned up my butt real good and then did a few minutes of awesome rimming. She asked me to flip over and she did some more sliding around. She seemed to dig it because after a little thigh sex she did a little bb cowgirl. I asked to go to the bed, we cleaned up and laid down in the other room. She did some more deep kissing while I played with her pussy then she went down on me and gave me some really nice, semi-deep throat BBBJ for 10 minutes or so. After that she slipped on a condom and we fucked in cowgirl, mish and doggie. The 10 minute warning went off so I asked if I could finish in her mouth. She slid off the condom and layed between my legs and did some more excellent sucking. After a few minutes of that I shot a big load in her mouth. After we showed and dressed she gave me her card. I think I'll keep it for my next trip here, I think it will be sooner than I had planned.

On the way back to the hotel I walked down Shanghai street and saw a foot massage place on the E side of the road, I think it was N or either Nankin or Ning Po. In the doorway there were two really cute young girls who were trying to talk me into coming in. It was tempting but three girls in one night was enough for me, plus I've got an early flight to Tokyo and didn't want to be all worn out.

[Tiki Tour]

I went to 37 Dundas, asked to see three girls and picked the best of the lot. I don't recall her name, Shen Shen, Jzhen Jzhen, something repeated (I know that narrows it down to a half a billion.) We showered together, had a little BBBJ in the shower and moved to the bed, she did a bunch of body kissing, nipple licking and some more BBBJ. She slid a condom on me and did some cowgirl and asian cowgirl then wanted me to do missionary and doggie. No kissing, just a couple pecks on the lips. She was okay but not the experience I was looking for.

I walked around for a while and saw a sign at 163 portland street, to the right (N) of the 7 Eleven that advertised Russian, HK, Chinese, Thai and Indo girls at different prices. I went up and asked to see a couple HK and Chinese girls. They brought me one and said she was the only one available. I paid 360, showered and pretty much the same routine as at 37 Dundas. Based on her, I wouldn't recommend that place. Who knows how it might pan out on a different day or time (this was around 21:00 on a Saturday).

Walked down Portland street (didn't see any streetwalkers between Dundas and Waterloo BTW) and went to K-Pressure on Woosung St just north of Nathan road. I asked to see a few girls, they brought one friendly and aggressive girl named Angel, I asked to see the other girls and they brought in Happy. There were no more available and Happy was the best of the two so I paid the 400 and went upstairs and paid 110 for the room.

Happy was very friendly, she had her tongue in my mouth most of the 45 minutes. She was a short, cute young appearing girl of mid to late 20's with a nice tight body and a round ass, her boobs were small but a little droopy. We soaped up in the shower and I asked for the air mattress to be laid on the floor. She threw a towel on it and soaked it with warm water. She hopped on top of my back and slid around like crazy. She alternated body to body massage and scrubbing and spraying me with the shower head. She cleaned up my butt real good and then did a few minutes of awesome rimming. She asked me to flip over and she did some more sliding around. She seemed to dig it because after a little thigh sex she did a little bb cowgirl. I asked to go to the bed, we cleaned up and laid down in the other room. She did some more deep kissing while I played with her pussy then she went down on me and gave me some really nice, semi-deep throat BBBJ for 10 minutes or so. After that she slipped on a condom and we fucked in cowgirl, mish and doggie. The 10 minute warning went off so I asked if I could finish in her mouth. She slid off the condom and layed between my legs and did some more excellent sucking. After a few minutes of that I shot a big load in her mouth. After we showed and dressed she gave me her card. I think I'll keep it for my next trip here, I think it will be sooner than I had planned.

On the way back to the hotel I walked down Shanghai street and saw a foot massage place on the E side of the road, I think it was N or either Nankin or Ning Po. In the doorway there were two really cute young girls who were trying to talk me into coming in. It was tempting but three girls in one night was enough for me, plus I've got an early flight to Tokyo and didn't want to be all worn out.Nice report thanks, I think I have done all three of these places / experiences before but without your stamina, not on the same night.

[Kaplay]

Nice report thanks, I think I have done all three of these places / experiences before but without your stamina, not on the same night.Indeed. I think that's one hell of a night. I'm 38 and sometimes is takes me a while to get back into the saddle for seconds. I think with some enticement from the ladies makes the wanting if seconds come quicker. Well done buddy.

[Kaplay]

Any guys got any update on what's happening at Hari's?

Thanks

[JackTheLad2]

Indeed. I think that's one hell of a night. I'm 38 and sometimes is takes me a while to get back into the saddle for seconds. I think with some enticement from the ladies makes the wanting if seconds come quicker. Well done buddy.Well. It certainly was some doing by SP! I'm just envious.

You are younger than my son, without giving too much away, and the only one in the past few years that has enabled me to have seconds was a DW that I found in New Makati last March. Wish I had taken her number and name but that's a Sunday afternoon for you! Don't you just love freebies from the DW's that have a day off on a Sunday and who are out for fun!


Merry Christmas to all the readers here in the HK forum

[Yhddude13]

Any guys got any update on what's happening at Hari's?

ThanksOver the past year. Have gne 5 or 6 times and it has been dead and deader. Wanchai is were the action is. One lady told me the reason they go to Hari's is because they think they can get a better rate. I guess if you are the only game in town, then you might be right.

[John Smart]

Happy was very friendly, she had her tongue in my mouth most of the 45 minutes. She was a short, cute young appearing girl of mid to late 20's with a nice tight body and a round ass, her boobs were small but a little droopy. We soaped up in the shower and I asked for the air mattress to be laid on the floor. She threw a towel on it and soaked it with warm water. She hopped on top of my back and slid around like crazy. She alternated body to body massage and scrubbing and spraying me with the shower head. She cleaned up my butt real good and then did a few minutes of awesome rimming. She asked me to flip over and she did some more sliding around. She seemed to dig it because after a little thigh sex she did a little bb cowgirl. I asked to go to the bed, we cleaned up and laid down in the other room. She did some more deep kissing while I played with her pussy then she went down on me and gave me some really nice, semi-deep throat BBBJ for 10 minutes or so. After that she slipped on a condom and we fucked in cowgirl, mish and doggie. The 10 minute warning went off so I asked if I could finish in her mouth. She slid off the condom and layed between my legs and did some more excellent sucking. After a few minutes of that I shot a big load in her mouth. After we showed and dressed she gave me her card. I think I'll keep it for my next trip here, I think it will be sooner than I had planned.Hey Sexp. After seeing Happy in KP, I saw her outside. Twice in fact. She gave me her number. And she gives it rice! She spends all the time squeaking (in Chinese)"I want it! I want it!". Sure there's a bit of acting going on, but she really gives you your money's worth. And, as you'll probably remember, if you rub her beyond her clit, while she doesn't squirt, she gushes. And that keeps happening. OK, she's not on the A list, but she's a very solid performer. Make sure she's on your list next time you visit! Go and find her in Mongkok (where she lives) , take her to a short time hotel there.

[Daddy San]

Hi there,

I apologize for just asking questions, but being almost half a world away, it is somewhat difficult to write relevant field reports.

Farther down in the forum, I've often seen references to yellow, green and pink sign places.

I know the yellow signs, as the usually dreary brothels, where you have to wait 10 mins or so, because the ladies are only called in one by one, when you arrive. This is what they were many, many years ago, when I last visited one.

I also know the houses with some 10 flats on 2 floors, not all flats open for business, but some populated and available for choosing. E. G. 63 Pilkem Street, where the fabulous Joey used to reside. (Anyone know if she still works and if so where?)

I also know the big silos, with some 20 floors and 10 flats each, with goodies, like New Lucky House in Jordan and Fuji bldg in Wanchai. This info is of course available on 141 and similar sites.

So how do the colors Yellow, Green and Pink fit in with what I have described?

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Gents,

I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind to pass along some advice. I'm an American guy, have been living in Singapore for years and am now moving to Hong Kong soon. I'm a big fan of the D / H scene here in Singapore and fully intend to indulge once I get set up in Hong Kong as well. I love Indonesian women (and Filipinas too. And want to live someplace where I'd see lots of opportunities to meet during the week, not only on Sundays. Am thinking about living in Tin Hau near Victoria Park. Is it really true that you can find Indo girls there during the week as someone suggested? Would you recommend any other areas as an even better suggestion? Also, is there a similar place where the Filipinas could be found during the week?

Many, many thanks in advance.

[Chantik]

The reality is that there are over 250, 000 D / H in Hong Kong. A good percentage of these girls are naughty. You can D / H's in any part of HK. Shops, parks, schools, public transport, libraries etc etc etc.

The main thing is to be discrete. Don't start chatting to a helper if she has a child with her or she appears to be with Chinese people. This can put a D / H in an embarrassing situation or even result in her losing her job.

Especially, Chinese employers are sensitive about what the D / H do on their day off. Many D / H have been fired cause they have been seen in Wanchai on a Sunday afternoon.

And it is likely that D / H will charge you for sex. If not upfront or at a later stage.

[Chantik]

Further to my earlier post.

Don't think that you will move to HK and have 1000 girls on your doorstep.

Patience is required whilst you learn how HK operates.

Think I have provided a good sense of Hk in answering your PM's.

Maybe some other posters can provide other helpful hints.

[The Tanuki]

Any guys got any update on what's happening at Hari's?

ThanksThe place is a magnet for lounge lizards who yearn to sing every word of the 80's songs the band plays. They can be a bit entertaining to watch for a few minutes. Drinks are rather expensive, so go during happy hour (2 for 1). It would be helpful if the place would shampoo the carpet, as it's pretty nasty. Some Ukrainians, a couple SE Asians and a stray Mongolian or 2 might be around. The WG's I've seen there are all pretty much toward the end of their careers on their backs. Not the SYT's you'll see in Wanchai. No idea what rates they get as I never took one. As always, YMMV and you might find something good. Just what I've seen in March and October this year.

Cheers.

TT

[Member #4271]

Further to my earlier post.

Don't think that you will move to HK and have 1000 girls on your doorstep.

Patience is required whilst you learn how HK operates.

Think I have provided a good sense of Hk in answering your PM's.

Maybe some other posters can provide other helpful hints.I'm another white guy moving to HK soon. I've been there 6 times already so I know how things operate. I've had some of the best experiences of my life with DHs I met on buses and near the MTR.

And, yes, no matter what you think, you pay for it one way or the other in the long run, either with money or clothes or by being a BF.

[Chantik]

I'm another white guy moving to HK soon. I've been there 6 times already so I know how things operate. I've had some of the best experiences of my life with DHs I met on buses and near the MTR.

And, yes, no matter what you think, you pay for it one way or the other in the long run, either with money or clothes or by being a BF.100% correct.

Girls in Hk are very approachable, it is easy to start a conversation and obtain a phone number.

[WildHawk]

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo; 1226449]Gents,

Am thinking about living in Tin Hau near Victoria Park. Is it really true that you can find Indo girls there during the week as someone suggested? .

From my experience, living in Causeway Bay and frequently jogging around the track in Vic Park, you won't see much action on weekdays there. Weekends yes, but Sundays are tricky as the place will be wall to wall Indos. Most will be socializing and you'll see plenty of Indonesbians of convenience. Still, most are friendly, so be respectful and open to new friendships. Explain that you are a new neighbor (and not a tourist) and things will probably go your way!

And the suggestion to be sure that you do not make advances in the vicinity of the D / H's young wards and families is to be heeded.

Tin Hau is a fine location. As HK island is compact, you really cannot go wrong. Causeway Bay, Happy Valley, whereever, you are minutes away from happiness! Enjoy!

[Gratass65]

Hi.

Are going to HK in start of Chinese new year. 20 to 24 januer Someone knows how the acktivity Are in Wan Chai in this period?

I'm traveling alone and could need some company for a beer or so. If you feel for it, please send me a PM

[Gaijin Gigolo]

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo; 1226449]Gents,

Am thinking about living in Tin Hau near Victoria Park. Is it really true that you can find Indo girls there during the week as someone suggested? .

From my experience, living in Causeway Bay and frequently jogging around the track in Vic Park, you won't see much action on weekdays there. Weekends yes, but Sundays are tricky as the place will be wall to wall Indos. Most will be socializing and you'll see plenty of Indonesbians of convenience. Still, most are friendly, so be respectful and open to new friendships. Explain that you are a new neighbor (and not a tourist) and things will probably go your way!

And the suggestion to be sure that you do not make advances in the vicinity of the D / H's young wards and families is to be heeded.

Tin Hau is a fine location. As HK island is compact, you really cannot go wrong. Causeway Bay, Happy Valley, whereever, you are minutes away from happiness! Enjoy!Thanks mate. You're the only responder so far who's really answered my question regarding the D / H availability during the week. Much appreciated!

[Chantik]

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1226742]Thanks mate. You're the only responder so far who's really answered my question regarding the D / H availability during the week. Much appreciated!Could have sworn that I advised you that D / H holidays can be any day of the week. Sunday and Saturday are the most popular. But some have holidays during the week.

I was in the BCA Bank (Indo Bank) today in Causeway Bay and it had many D / H sending money back to Indonesia.

And Victoria Park is popular because there are many Indo restaurants close to the park in Causeway Bay as well as places to send money back to family.

Don't think that you can get better information than from an Indonesian female.

[Stargm]

100% correct.

Girls in Hk are very approachable, it is easy to start a conversation and obtain a phone number.Chantk,

May I ask if that is you posting on CL, Casual Encounters?

Would love to know!

Thanks

[Kaplay]

The place is a magnet for lounge lizards who yearn to sing every word of the 80's songs the band plays. They can be a bit entertaining to watch for a few minutes. Drinks are rather expensive, so go during happy hour (2 for 1). It would be helpful if the place would shampoo the carpet, as it's pretty nasty. Some Ukrainians, a couple SE Asians and a stray Mongolian or 2 might be around. The WG's I've seen there are all pretty much toward the end of their careers on their backs. Not the SYT's you'll see in Wanchai. No idea what rates they get as I never took one. As always, YMMV and you might find something good. Just what I've seen in March and October this year.

Cheers.

TTHi TT, Thanks for the update. Because I'm always staying on Kowloon side, always have thought easier to go there. But standards does seem to have dropped lately. This year been to HK 3 time and only went the first trip. Had a 30 something Thai girl. You can get one or 2 good looking ones but then thats the lot. 1 or 2. Or they seem always to be taken up pretty early.

[Kaplay]

Well. It certainly was some doing by SP! I'm just envious.

You are younger than my son, without giving too much away, and the only one in the past few years that has enabled me to have seconds was a DW that I found in New Makati last March. Wish I had taken her number and name but that's a Sunday afternoon for you! Don't you just love freebies from the DW's that have a day off on a Sunday and who are out for fun!

Merry Christmas to all the readers here in the HK forumThanks buddy and Merry Christmas to you aswell. I don't think that I had a DW before. Will have to give it a go on my next trip.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo; 1226837]Could have sworn that I advised you that D / H holidays can be any day of the week. Sunday and Saturday are the most popular. But some have holidays during the week.

I was in the BCA Bank (Indo Bank) today in Causeway Bay and it had many D / H sending money back to Indonesia.

And Victoria Park is popular because there are many Indo restaurants close to the park in Causeway Bay as well as places to send money back to family.

Don't think that you can get better information than from an Indonesian female.FINALLY you did, in private, haha. Thanks.

[Chantik]

Chantk,

May I ask if that is you posting on CL, Casual Encounters?

Would love to know!

ThanksNah.

Use a different website!

You can send me a PM.

[Mad Harry]

Staying at the Shangrila Kwaloon, does anyone know of places near by like Suna's / massage palours where F / S is available in the day time.

[Mreaton]

A few months ago I wrote that a former Indo girlfriend asked me to hire her as my Domestic Helper. I declined.

Now, my current girl, a filipina wants me to sponsor her and hire her as my Domestic Helper. She wants to terminate her current contract. She said she will live in my place or stay out at a boarding house, up to me. She is ok with minimum salary because she will take other part time jobs to supplement. She will be loyal to me like a girlfriend. I can go with other women if promise to cover-up. If she cleans anywhere near as good as she fucks my place would be fucking spotless. I'm seriously tempted. Somebody please tell me I'm an idiot and talk me out of it.

[Gratass65]

A few months ago I wrote that a former Indo girlfriend asked me to hire her as my Domestic Helper. I declined.

Now, my current girl, a filipina wants me to sponsor her and hire her as my Domestic Helper. She wants to terminate her current contract. She said she will live in my place or stay out at a boarding house, up to me. She is ok with minimum salary because she will take other part time jobs to supplement. She will be loyal to me like a girlfriend. I can go with other women if promise to cover-up. If she cleans anywhere near as good as she fucks my place would be fucking spotless. I'm seriously tempted. Somebody please tell me I'm an idiot and talk me out of it.Can be pefect. But she will ackt like a wife after some weeks. Get jealous and don't talk to you for some days and so.

And when she will be loyal to you like a girlfriend, she tells you what she realy whant. Good luck with your choice.

[Apac Man]

A few months ago I wrote that a former Indo girlfriend asked me to hire her as my Domestic Helper. I declined.

Now, my current girl, a filipina wants me to sponsor her and hire her as my Domestic Helper. She wants to terminate her current contract. She said she will live in my place or stay out at a boarding house, up to me. She is ok with minimum salary because she will take other part time jobs to supplement. She will be loyal to me like a girlfriend. I can go with other women if promise to cover-up. If she cleans anywhere near as good as she fucks my place would be fucking spotless. I'm seriously tempted. Somebody please tell me I'm an idiot and talk me out of it.Dear MrEaton,

With all due respect, if you do it, you are an idiot. By hiring someone as a domestic helper, you are legally responsible for that person in Hong Kong and I yet have to meet an Asian girl who is not jealous. Don't do it.

Regards,

APAC Man

[Tiger 888]

Dear MrEaton,

With all due respect, if you do it, you are an idiot. By hiring someone as a domestic helper, you are legally responsible for that person in Hong Kong and I yet have to meet an Asian girl who is not jealous. Don't do it.

Regards,

APAC ManFurthermore, if she resides in another place than that of work or works part time for other people, that can run him into serious trouble. He could lose his visa if he is not a permanent resident.

[Chantik]

A few months ago I wrote that a former Indo girlfriend asked me to hire her as my Domestic Helper. I declined.

Now, my current girl, a filipina wants me to sponsor her and hire her as my Domestic Helper. She wants to terminate her current contract. She said she will live in my place or stay out at a boarding house, up to me. She is ok with minimum salary because she will take other part time jobs to supplement. She will be loyal to me like a girlfriend. I can go with other women if promise to cover-up. If she cleans anywhere near as good as she fucks my place would be fucking spotless. I'm seriously tempted. Somebody please tell me I'm an idiot and talk me out of it.I would be very careful.

And you need a 100% understanding from both.

[Chantik]

A few months ago I wrote that a former Indo girlfriend asked me to hire her as my Domestic Helper. I declined.

Now, my current girl, a filipina wants me to sponsor her and hire her as my Domestic Helper. She wants to terminate her current contract. She said she will live in my place or stay out at a boarding house, up to me. She is ok with minimum salary because she will take other part time jobs to supplement. She will be loyal to me like a girlfriend. I can go with other women if promise to cover-up. If she cleans anywhere near as good as she fucks my place would be fucking spotless. I'm seriously tempted. Somebody please tell me I'm an idiot and talk me out of it.I wouldn't worry about the legalities of the situation. Go to Makati / Escape / Neptune etc. And some of these girls have a domestic visa under the circumstances that you listed.

Don't hear of anyone getting into the trouble if the girl is sensible.

I would make her wait until she finishes her contract. This way it demands committment from both sides.

[HK Guy 2003]

A few months ago I wrote that a former Indo girlfriend asked me to hire her as my Domestic Helper. I declined.

Now, my current girl, a filipina wants me to sponsor her and hire her as my Domestic Helper. She wants to terminate her current contract. She said she will live in my place or stay out at a boarding house, up to me. She is ok with minimum salary because she will take other part time jobs to supplement. She will be loyal to me like a girlfriend. I can go with other women if promise to cover-up. If she cleans anywhere near as good as she fucks my place would be fucking spotless. I'm seriously tempted. Somebody please tell me I'm an idiot and talk me out of it.Let me chime in again. I know of several similar situations like what your gf is asking. Both from first-hand and second hand experiences.

First-hand experience. I signed my current indo-gf on a similar arrangement. But she lives out. So its even better. She rents an inexpensive small studio apt, I get to see her when I want, and she is always delighted when I cum. Figuratively and literally. And I can still go find other girls when I don't visit her. This would be my advice. Get the best of both worlds (albeit more costly because you would have to pay for her live out accomodation). Still definitely worth it in my book.

Second-hand experience I hear from some filipina and indo girls I know. Many have bfs who support them. Most live with their bfs. One indo girl was very clingy, she was an ex-gf of mine so she tells me, so I get it from the female perspective. The girls are generally okay, but you should make sure not to bring other girls home. Two hens in one house is not a good situation no matter how your live-in hen tells you initially. At the end of that situation, it turned pretty ugly. So word of caution. Also in the past news of HK, you hear stories of expats doing the same, live-in with their DH gfs. And then later getting in legal trouble when the relationship turns sour. In short, pay for your gf to live out in an inexpensive place. Well worth the investment in the long run.

[FreebieFan]

Staying at the Shangrila Kwaloon, does anyone know of places near by like Suna's / massage palours where F / S is available in the day time.Sorry Bud but have been living in or around HK since 1988 and have never heard of a place called Kwaloon.

[Boarer]

Now, my current girl, a filipina wants me to sponsor her and hire her as my Domestic Helper. She wants to terminate her current contract. She said she will live in my place or stay out at a boarding house, up to me. She is ok with minimum salary because she will take other part time jobs to supplement. She will be loyal to me like a girlfriend. I can go with other women if promise to cover-up. If she cleans anywhere near as good as she fucks my place would be fucking spotless. I'm seriously tempted. Somebody please tell me I'm an idiot and talk me out of it.
some of these girls have a domestic visa under the circumstances that you listed.
And you need a 100% understanding from both.
Furthermore, if she resides in another place than that of work or works part time for other people, that can run him into serious trouble. He could lose his visa if he is not a permanent resident.
Dear MrEaton, With all due respect, if you do it, you are an idiot. By hiring someone as a domestic helper, you are legally responsible for that person in Hong Kong and I yet have to meet an Asian girl who is not jealous. Don't do it.
Can be pefect. But she will ackt like a wife after some weeks. Get jealous and don't talk to you for some days and so.

And when she will be loyal to you like a girlfriend, she tells you what she realy whant. Good luck with your choice.I think everyone gets this request and you DO NOT want to do it. As Tiger said, things have changed so you have to be careful. And as Gratasse said, EVERYONE gets jealous; it is human nature. I think the negative consequences are less with an Asian girl than with a Western girl.

But the experience, for however long it lasts, might be worth it.

Nothing is forever. Many before you have done it with their DH / Secretary / Office help. The world is really a small place and, unbeknownst to certain parties, I have bumped into people who had such arrangements and I just happen to bump into the live-in and the fling (while the live-in goes back to visit family). So I am going to go out on a limb and take a stab at this.

Have rules written down so that you can show it to immigration as part of her contract and be grounds for dismissal should it come to that.

She lives in so you have more control and can monitor her. Even if you are on the road all the time, your neighbors and other helpers will gossip and happily tell you the truth. Tell her you will call on the house phone to verify.

Have a late curfew on her day off to allow her to "go to late mass" but she has to return home every day. No exception.

Set up a helper accommodation in the apartment as a mad / monthly room and also to make it more legitimate. The other stuff you cannot put in the contract.

Be a hard ass as you can always loosen up later.

If she has less than a year on her contract, have her finish it. Not good for her to break her contract as it reflects badly on her. Also, it will give you time to think things over.

My opinion is that many of girls are very pragmatic, have strong family values, and want to help their family. They will thus take a lot of abuse from you and accept such arrangements. On the upside, many guys do fall for these girls and the girls turn over a new leaf and become great long term girl friends or wives. It is also a great way to learn about another culture if you are open to it. Even if she rips you off, it will usually be less than a western girl friend / wife will get.

As the saying goes, nothing ventured nothing gained.

[Boarer]

Sorry Bud but have been living in or around HK since 1988 and have never heard of a place called Kwaloon.Thats why nothing came up when he RTFF.

[JackTheLad2]

Sorry Bud but have been living in or around HK since 1988 and have never heard of a place called Kwaloon.Think he means Cowlune

[Boarer]

Staying at the Shangrila Kwaloon, does anyone know of places near by like Suna's / massage palours where F / S is available in the day time.It is Kowloon. Your hotel looks into Wanchai which is across the harbor and on the other end of the Cross Harbor Tunnel.

About 1/2 km north is what you are looking for. Think Jakethelad's out call massage sounds like the best deal and much nicer. I usually check out the ladies and ask them if they can come to my hotel (I like my Egyptian cotton sheets).3 stops north on the MTR is Dundas. RTFF.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Staying at the Shangrila Kwaloon, does anyone know of places near by like Suna's / massage palours where F / S is available in the day time.There are no Suna's or palours of any sort in Kwaloon. Afraid you're shit out of luck there.

As far as F / S though, just ask any woman in the lobby or walking by the hotel if she'd like to participate. Actually, no need to wait that long though, you could even start by asking those you see while processing through customs, anywhere else in the airport (I've scored tons of hot freebies while waiting at the baggage claim area, mainly daughters with their families - they're obviously unattached!) or in the train on the way into town. Be very descriptive about the size and color of your package and what you intend to do to her various holes with it and most will say yes. Don't spare any details and be sure to highlight any special skills you may have. The oldest women you'll see are generally the quickest to say yes, but you'll have to speak very loudly and slowly for them to hear you and understand what you mean. You may catch a few odd looks from those overhearing your proposal, but don't worry about that, the locals are merely intrigued to see a foreigner among them, a rarity to be sure. Hold up your middle finger to them, smile broadly and nod your head up and down ... it's the Hong Kong way of saying 'hello, I'm happy to meet you, I come in peace and I hope we can be friends". Just don't be shy, give it a try, and before you know it you'll be balls deep in the hottest 'Golden Girl' you've ever seen!

Be sure to file a field report once you've completed your mission. Good luck, Commander.

[Tiger 888]

...She lives in so you have more control and can monitor her. Even if you are on the road all the time, your neighbors and other helpers will gossip and happily tell you the truth. Tell her you will call on the house phone to verify...In Hong Kong it is a legal requirement that she lives in. If you let her live out you are breakiung the law and are at least vulnerable to blackmail (unless you have a written permission from immigration). If she does part time work in places other than the one she is employed for and lives in, that is illegal employment with severe consequences when the sh*t hits the fan.

[Tiger 888]

There are no Suna's or palours of any sort in Kwaloon. Afraid you're shit out of luck there.I am so amazed how often people go to places ignorant enough even not to care about the spelling.
Kwaloon can't be a typing error of any sort.

A friend of mine was once asked where he came from. He answered Switzerland. The reply: Ah I know, Swaziland.

[Daddy San]

Tiger,

Remember Pink Floyd's "We don't need no education"?

It's the arrogance of ignorance.

[Chantik]

In Hong Kong it is a legal requirement that she lives in. If you let her live out you are breakiung the law and are at least vulnerable to blackmail (unless you have a written permission from immigration). If she does part time work in places other than the one she is employed for and lives in, that is illegal employment with severe consequences when the sh*t hits the fan.It is a legal requirement for the DH to live in. Unless the employer can prove to immigration that there is no sleeping space for the D / H.

Live out D / H (mainly Filipina) was very popular in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Government tightened up the rules re live out. Although they seem to have been loosened again in the last 2 years.

Definitely right about part time work at other places. Many girls are caught out this way. Less chance if they work as hookers. As strange as it may seem

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I am so amazed how often people go to places ignorant enough even not to care about the spelling.

Kwaloon can't be a typing error of any sort.

A friend of mine was once asked where he came from. He answered Switzerland. The reply: Ah I know, Swaziland.I was thinking the exact same thing. How did this guy manage to get sent to Hong Kong and not even bother learning how to spell the name of the district he'll be staying in. Incredible.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Tiger,

Remember Pink Floyd's "We don't need no education"?

It's the arrogance of ignorance.Yeah, man. In his case maybe it's "We ain't got no edukashun."

[Gaijin Gigolo]

It is a legal requirement for the DH to live in. Unless the employer can prove to immigration that there is no sleeping space for the D / H.

Live out D / H (mainly Filipina) was very popular in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Government tightened up the rules re live out. Although they seem to have been loosened again in the last 2 years.

Definitely right about part time work at other places. Many girls are caught out this way. Less chance if they work as hookers. As strange as it may seemStrange. Didn't you just tell him "not to worry about the legalities" of the situation?

RE: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?951-General-Reports&p=1227412&viewfull=1#post1227412

[Lucky21]

There are no Suna's or palours of any sort in Kwaloon. Afraid you're shit out of luck there.Really?

Don't know if you're busting his chops or serious. But there's lots to do around the Kowloon Shangri La.

TST Sauna on Nathan.

Kobe in the Regal Kowloon.

Sun Hot Sauna on Prat.

Hari's bar.

Sticky Fingers.

SW on Mody in the evenings.

KTV's a few blocks north.

I guess there is nothing nearby and he's SOL.

[Tiger 888]

Really?

Don't know if you're busting his chops or serious. But there's lots to do around the Kowloon Shangri La.

TST Sauna on Nathan.

Kobe in the Regal Kowloon.

Sun Hot Sauna on Prat.

Hari's bar.

Sticky Fingers.

SW on Mody in the evenings.

KTV's a few blocks north.

I guess there is nothing nearby and he's SOL.Have you even tried to understand any of the replies to my reply to his post? Then you could probably work out what he tried to say.
I can't find a contradiction between your post and his.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Really?

Don't know if you're busting his chops or serious. But there's lots to do around the Kowloon Shangri La.

TST Sauna on Nathan.

Kobe in the Regal Kowloon.

Sun Hot Sauna on Prat.

Hari's bar.

Sticky Fingers.

SW on Mody in the evenings.

KTV's a few blocks north.

I guess there is nothing nearby and he's SOL.What the fuck. Are you serious? Did you not read the rest of my post or are you just as stupid as he is? LOL

[Tiger 888]

What the fuck. Are you serious? Did you not read the rest of my post or are you just as stupid as he is? LOLJust another prick in the mall.

[Lucky21]

What the fuck. Are you serious? Did you not read the rest of my post or are you just as stupid as he is? LOLYeah, I realized what your point was after I hit upload. Felt stupid, but thought I might get lucky and my stupidity might go unnoticed. Obviously, I was not so lucky.

[Sugoi]

i shared a few years ago about the one by lockhart and the mtr station where the therapist offered a hj but i've gone back a few more times and there was nothing. i also have tried some of the foot massage places in wanchai with nothing-as opposed to the ones by the night market or by langham place where i think they all have much more to offer.

any other saunas or massage places near wanchai someone can recommend?

thanks.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Yeah, I realized what your point was after I hit upload. Felt stupid, but thought I might get lucky and my stupidity might go unnoticed. Obviously, I was not so lucky.LOL. No worries mate. BTW, you know you can always hit edit report. :-D

[Chantik]

i shared a few years ago about the one by lockhart and the mtr station where the therapist offered a hj but i've gone back a few more times and there was nothing. i also have tried some of the foot massage places in wanchai with nothing-as opposed to the ones by the night market or by langham place where i think they all have much more to offer.

any other saunas or massage places near wanchai someone can recommend?

thanks.service with a happy ending. kowloon side. wanchai is usually straight.

[SexPerimenter]

She was very enthusiastic. I omitted the bit about the squirting, thought it was a fluke. I'm pretty experienced and either she's a very good actor or she came a couple times during the session. I loved the squeaking too.


Hey Sexp. After seeing Happy in KP, I saw her outside. Twice in fact. She gave me her number. And she gives it rice! She spends all the time squeaking (in Chinese)"I want it! I want it!". Sure there's a bit of acting going on, but she really gives you your money's worth. And, as you'll probably remember, if you rub her beyond her clit, while she doesn't squirt, she gushes. And that keeps happening. OK, she's not on the A list, but she's a very solid performer. Make sure she's on your list next time you visit! Go and find her in Mongkok (where she lives) , take her to a short time hotel there.

[SexPerimenter]

I'm surprising myself, I'm usually happy with something every other day.

I'm nine days into a 21 day trip and I'm done 10 chicks so far. Taking a break now on a layover in Seoul.

I bar fined one a night in Bangkok and brought them back to my suite with an indoor and outdoor jacuzzi. I also did an 18 yo starfish at an onsite hotel at Nana Plaza. She wore nr 21 and was at the first bar on the right after you go up the escalator. The last night I met Oum at Midnight in soi Cowboy and we had the most passionate night of sex that I can ever remember. I swore she was going to ask me to marry her in the morning.


Nice report thanks, I think I have done all three of these places / experiences before but without your stamina, not on the same night.

[Johnny Rocket]

100% correct.

Girls in Hk are very approachable, it is easy to start a conversation and obtain a phone number.Well the helpers are. Certainly not the Chinese! IME anyway

[Chantik]

Well the helpers are. Certainly not the Chinese! IME anywayThey are definitely friendly with Caucasian men.

Anyway Chinese women are dangerous. They know where a man's wallet is!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

They are definitely friendly with Caucasian men.

Anyway Chinese women are dangerous. They know where a man's wallet is!Ha. And other women do not?

[Chantik]

Ha. And other women do not?When you have a date with a local woman and she asks your income, how much money in the bank and the names of blue-chip shares in your portfolio. Then you will understand.

[Member #4698]

In Hong Kong or Macau, I prefer Chinese girls above all others except maybe Mongolian and Japanese girls. But then I don't live and work in Hong Kong, just passing through.

[BritInEgypt]

When you have a date with a local woman and she asks your income, how much money in the bank and the names of blue-chip shares in your portfolio. Then you will understand.Before you she agrees to go on a date with you she will have run a don't & Bradstreet check on you, HKG women are known for it.

[Boarer]

Well the helpers are. Certainly not the Chinese! IME anywayDo you have a Ferrari? Property? Intent beyond a one night stand? The life of the party? A dog? Look like Brad Pitt? Like my daddy used to tell me, when you go fishing, you got to figure out what type of fish you are trying to catch and then use the right bait.

Women usually only date people above them on the social economic ladder. Look at how successful Edison Chan is. DH are just real easy targets through out the ages. French maid uniforms were not invented in Asia.


They are definitely friendly with Caucasian men.

Anyway Chinese women are dangerous. They know where a man's wallet is!I think all women know where a man's wallet and assets are. It will all be close to her heart soon. I am sure Chantik you check out a client's ability to pay before hand. No money no honey.

[Chantik]

Do you have a Ferrari? Property? Intent beyond a one night stand? The life of the party? A dog? Look like Brad Pitt? Like my daddy used to tell me, when you go fishing, you got to figure out what type of fish you are trying to catch and then use the right bait.

Women usually only date people above them on the social economic ladder. Look at how successful Edison Chan is. DH are just real easy targets through out the ages. French maid uniforms were not invented in Asia.

I think all women know where a man's wallet and assets are. It will all be close to her heart soon. I am sure Chantik you check out a client's ability to pay before hand. No money no honey.It would be unprofessional otherwise. Service quality is good!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

When you have a date with a local woman and she asks your income, how much money in the bank and the names of blue-chip shares in your portfolio. Then you will understand.Oh, I totally understand. I also understand Filipinas and Indonesians in the city are after the exact same thing.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I think all women know where a man's wallet and assets are. It will all be close to her heart soon. I am sure Chantik you check out a client's ability to pay before hand. No money no honey.Exactly right!

[Chantik]

Oh, I totally understand. I also understand Filipinas and Indonesians in the city are after the exact same thing.Do you think that most average Indonesian / Filipina's on a first date will ask you about stocks and shares!

Anyway when you move to HK and conquer the D / H market. You can share your experiences about woman, stocks and shares.

[BionicMan]

anyway when you move to HK and conquer the D / H market. You can share your experiences about woman, stocks and shares.As long as one has to' share experiences only and not the shares themselves.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Do you think that most average Indonesian / Filipina's on a first date will ask you about stocks and shares!

Anyway when you move to HK and conquer the D / H market. You can share your experiences about woman, stocks and shares.No, and I don't think most Hong Kong women would do that either. How many of them have you dated?

[Chantik]

As long as one has to' share experiences only and not the shares themselves.You are a wise man.

[Chantik]

No, and I don't think most Hong Kong women would do that either. How many of them have you dated?Forgot that you have lived in HK for years. And had lots of expereience dating local woman.

One or two other posters have subtlely suggested how HK women can be.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Forgot that you have lived in HK for years. And had lots of expereience dating local woman.

One or two other posters have subtlely suggested how HK women can be.Sure, but my point is, they're no different from other women living there, just a little more forward perhaps. I don't plan to date any Hong Kong or Chinese women anyway though, so it's a moot point to me, LOL.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Any recommendations for best venues for the D / H tea dance scene on Sundays? I used to go to Laguna when I would often visit in years past, but I understand that place has been renamed. Is it still hopping on Sundays or are there other places to suggest? Thanks in advance. BTW, anyone coming to Singapore during the next few weeks, I'm very happy to show you the ropes here. As mentioned previously, I'm a long time resident of Singapore planning to move to HKG very soon. Thanks in advance!

GG

[Chantik]

Sure, but my point is, they're no different from other women living there, just a little more forward perhaps. I don't plan to date any Hong Kong or Chinese women anyway though, so it's a moot point to me, LOL.So why waste time responding to my email. If this is not of interest.

I am certain that the guys await future reports on the D / H scene in Hong Kong. Especially visitors to HK.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

So why waste time responding to my email. If this is not of interest.

I am certain that the guys await future reports on the D / H scene in Hong Kong. Especially visitors to HK.I never once mentioned having any interest in Hong Kong girls. I'm merely replying to your suggestion that non-Hong Kong girls are any less materialistic than their local counterparts, which is simply not true.

[Makeupaname]

Any recommendations for best venues for the D / H tea dance scene on Sundays?Spent a few sundays, late Nov 2011 and early Dec in HK.

Bar 109. Stopped in around noon, seemed like very pro indonesian left over from Saturday night.

Neptune II. Mostly filipina dh with a few others mixed in. I think open at 2 PM, but maybe 3. Was packed by 5-6.

New Makait. Looked more like indonesian DH start filling in around 2-3.

XXX ? (not sure the name). The place you need to take an elevator to get across from 7-11 / boracay. Around 4-5PM was some very nice looking indo dh, would try from there if I wasnt already with a filipina from neptunes

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Spent a few sundays, late Nov 2011 and early Dec in HK.

Bar 109. Stopped in around noon, seemed like very pro indonesian left over from Saturday night.

Neptune II. Mostly filipina dh with a few others mixed in. I think open at 2 PM, but maybe 3. Was packed by 5-6.

New Makait. Looked more like indonesian DH start filling in around 2-3.

XXX? (not sure the name). The place you need to take an elevator to get across from 7-11 / boracay. Around 4-5PM was some very nice looking indo dh, would try from there if I wasnt already with a filipina from neptunesThanks much for the report, mate. In Singapore it's very easy to find a D / H girlfriend (temp or long term) without much effort who isn't looking to get paid. They're just looking for companionship (and a nice hard f*ck) , perhaps dinner and a bit of shopping is nice. Same scene there, I presume?

[Makeupaname]

Thanks much for the report, mate. In Singapore it's very easy to find a D / H girlfriend (temp or long term) without much effort who isn't looking to get paid. They're just looking for companionship (and a nice hard f*ck) , perhaps dinner and a bit of shopping is nice. Same scene there, I presume?Currently I live in Macau for awhile, and have never lived long term in HK. When I went recently to HK, it was just day trips. I was going for the sure things, the Sunday DH looking for extra income. But I am 100 percent sure if you have experience with filipinas you can find the same freebie scene. Macau has DHs too, but the city / country is so small its difficult to have more than 1 girl like this.

[Lakeside]

Spent a few sundays, late Nov 2011 and early Dec in HK.

Bar 109. Stopped in around noon, seemed like very pro indonesian left over from Saturday night.

Neptune II. Mostly filipina dh with a few others mixed in. I think open at 2 PM, but maybe 3. Was packed by 5-6.

New Makait. Looked more like indonesian DH start filling in around 2-3.

XXX? (not sure the name). The place you need to take an elevator to get across from 7-11 / boracay. Around 4-5PM was some very nice looking indo dh, would try from there if I wasnt already with a filipina from neptunesIn order to complete your list for Sunday afternoon action: Your XXX is J Forest above Joe Bananas. And for Indo D / H there is also Neptune III in Lockhart road to mention.

[Member9876]

In thread "First time to 37 Dundas" there were some discussion about black girls in Kowloon:



I was in Hong Kong for about a week. I stayed near Tsim sha tsui, Chungking_Mansions. Near the Subway exits, every night could see many black girls of 7-9 rate. All of them speak good English. I really wanted to have some black booty girls for a long time. So tried out one of them in the first night, she agreed for 400 Hong Kong $ for 3 hours and and number of shots.Planning to have a 2-day visit during early January to Hong Kong. Mostly the same area, because I am fetish to Black women. They are reasonable and speak good english too, so an added advantage. Are there any other areas near around Wang Chai or Kowloon where I can find Black girls?

Thanks in advance for any kind of tip!Thanks for your information. I was staying in the same area this week. Tuesday evening walked around Tsim Sha Tsui subway exits but unfortunately I didn't spot any black girls there. I was there first time around 9 pm. Decided to have a dinner and few beers on the Irish pub. Went again out to check girls about 11 pm. Still no black girls, just annoying fake hand-bag and watch sellers as well some people offering hashish.

FisherKorea. What time did you meet girls there?

Decided to go to Hari's then. Stayed there until midnight but very few working girls, one eastern European going from table to table and couple of Asian ones. Not a great selection.

First time in Hong Kong in many years. So, not sure if I was too early but used to other Asian cities there would be girls available pretty early in bars and streets. Maybe Christmas was too close and everyone have headed back home for vacation?

Thanks for the forum for valuable information! I've been following the forum quite a long time but never really contributed.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Currently I live in Macau for awhile, and have never lived long term in HK. When I went recently to HK, it was just day trips. I was going for the sure things, the Sunday DH looking for extra income. But I am 100 percent sure if you have experience with filipinas you can find the same freebie scene. Macau has DHs too, but the city / country is so small its difficult to have more than 1 girl like this.I'm sure you're right. Thanks again for the info.

[Jrob5]

XXX ? (not sure the name). The place you need to take an elevator to get across from 7-11 / boracay. Around 4-5PM was some very nice looking indo dh, would try from there if I wasnt already with a filipina from neptunesCan someone provide a name of this place or perhaps more specific details about how to find it.

Thanks

[Chantik]

Can someone provide a name of this place or perhaps more specific details about how to find it.

ThanksIt is above Joe Bananas.

[Chantik]

In thread "First time to 37 Dundas" there were some discussion about black girls in Kowloon:

Thanks for your information. I was staying in the same area this week. Tuesday evening walked around Tsim Sha Tsui subway exits but unfortunately I didn't spot any black girls there. I was there first time around 9 pm. Decided to have a dinner and few beers on the Irish pub. Went again out to check girls about 11 pm. Still no black girls, just annoying fake hand-bag and watch sellers as well some people offering hashish.

FisherKorea. What time did you meet girls there?

Decided to go to Hari's then. Stayed there until midnight but very few working girls, one eastern European going from table to table and couple of Asian ones. Not a great selection.

First time in Hong Kong in many years. So, not sure if I was too early but used to other Asian cities there would be girls available pretty early in bars and streets. Maybe Christmas was too close and everyone have headed back home for vacation?

Thanks for the forum for valuable information! I've been following the forum quite a long time but never really contributed.Best scene is Wanchai.

So many black girls in Wanchai. Both in bars and on the street.

Mostly Ugandan and Kenyan.

[Jrob5]

It is above Joe Bananas.Is it Bulldog's Bar?

[JackTheLad2]

Can someone provide a name of this place or perhaps more specific details about how to find it.

ThanksGoes by the name of "Forest". It is on the floor above Joe Bananas. You get an elevator up one floor to it. There are nearly always a couple of girls outside encouraging you to visit the place. The floor above "Forest" is "Traffic". Got to be honest, I never found them to be very good but maybe that's just me.

[Chantik]

Is it Bulldog's Bar?Yes.

Forest is the new bulldog.

Bulldog closed about 18 months ago.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

In order to complete your list for Sunday afternoon action: Your XXX is J Forest above Joe Bananas. And for Indo D / H there is also Neptune III in Lockhart road to mention.Coolio, thanks much.

[Nullnull]

Although prepared through ISG and a German forum my newbie's trip to Hong Kong an Macau turned due to bad timing, bad decisions and simply bad luck into a smallish disaster. Needless to say that it had some fine moments as well. I realised that 5 nights is a bit short when you want to see both Hong Kong and Macau and that costs for hotel rooms (this December and without the chance to find early bird offers or whatsoever) were not justified at all no matter what upmarket place Hong Kong might be.

Day 1 (Thursday) Arrival.

Flying in from Europe around 5 pm I took the airport-hotel shuttle bus and finally checked in a the Metropark Wanchai around 7:30 pm. Have to say this is an okay hotel especially since it's around the corner from New Makati and othe bars it is not worth the 2000 HKD per night they asked for. After a shower and some research on the guidebooks I was heading for Kowloon to test Tim Ho Wan, what seems to be the world's cheapest Michelin-starred restaurant, later I wanted to check out 37 Dundas on corner of Nathan Road and Dundas Street. Of course this was a stupid plan not only Tom Ho Wan was fully booked and had long queues outside it would have been better to check out the Wanchai pick up joints on a Thursday night and leaving the price consistent Dundas for the weekend.

At Dundas I made that classic mistake to pick a girl that was somehow cute looking but didn't interact at all with me while being presented to me. Her office-style costume was a big turn on for me but it kept secretly that she had no breasts at all. The girl (Do Do or Cho Cho, the pronunciation was somewhere in the middle) gave a lacklustre performance doing all the things she was requested but without any enthusiasm. She kept watching herself almost the whole time in the mirrors checking her false eyelashes or her lenses. Fucking was almost not possible since her pussy was so tiny (and dry) so after a few tries we finished with BBBJCIM. Having said that have to admit that around 500 HKG seems to be a fair price if had picked a just little more enthusiastic girl. At that time I thought it was a clever plan being somehow modest on my first day and returning relatively early to my hotel room.

Day 2 (Friday)

Jet leg hit me big time and couldn't sleep longer than two hours. Don't want to bore you with my sightseeing experience throughout the day (tried to get a little compensation nap in the afternoon but it didn't work). So I was tired when I hit the street for some kind of entertainment. The dinner at American Restaurant at 20 Lockhart Road was excellent but took long time so it was almost too late when I arrived around 10:30 pm at New Makati. The guys girl ratio was very bad saw almost two mongers working on each half decent girl. BTW there seemed to be thousands of British or American office guys living in Hong Kong with absolutely nothing to do, just populating the malls, restaurants and later the bars. And to make things worse I couldn't spot any hotties. While I have to admit that most of the Filipinas had supercute faces many of them had little problems with their bodies. The bottom half of the body is generally fuller (Hips, thighs, butts) and their legs always seemed to be way too short. While personality could make up for little mistakes (I mean I am not perfect either) it was way too crowded to find out. So off to Neptune II. Here there seemed to be much more girls. But around midnight the pretty ones weren't around. I spotted a few ones with terrible nose or boob jobs done. They should consider filing suits against the doctors who were responsible for this. Around 1:00 am some nicer cuties arrived (maybe already returning from their first round of FS?). Some smiles and words were exchanged but I felt somehow uncomfortable with the black and latina girls I socialised with. They behaved as if they were going to rob me. One asian girl then took my whole attention. Couldn't even guess where she was from. Half Thai half Indian maybe? While I spotted one of these popular Khmer / Sanskrit tattoo on her back which could be a sign of a Thai or Cambodian heritage she seemed to be too tall for that and her face had almost Indian or Arabic features. Her tits were huge so naturally I wasn't the only one who tried to make a pass on her. Actually she was surrounded by guys. And I had to admit that these guys were not middle aged businessmen with growing belly and loosing hair but quite athletic guys some of them even 10 years younger than me. To make things worse I got more and more tired and wasn't even really sure if I wanted a girl with a model face and a porn model body. Mostly I go for the pretty but girl next door types. Around 2:30 am I had to admit defeat and left the territory. OMG! Went home alone! While normally I would say the process of drinking and playing with the girl, feeling the vibes and the (sometimes) semi-professional attitude might suit me well, but the Wan Chai way of mongering simply didn't work out for me and returning to my hotel room I wished I could beam myself to Bangkok's Soi Cowboy.

(To be continued.)

[Member #4698]

Around 2:30 am I had to admit defeat and left the territory. OMG! Went home alone! While normally I would say the process of drinking and playing with the girl, feeling the vibes and the (sometimes) semi-professional attitude might suit me well, but the Wan Chai way of mongering simply didn't work out for me and returning to my hotel room I wished I could beam myself to Bangkok's Soi Cowboy. (To be continued.)Don't feel too bad Null. I have made the walk of shame back to my hotel all alone late at night too. It happened to me on my first night in AC of all places. I flew in on Cebu Pacific from Macau and arrived around midnight. Checked into ABC and hit the big bars on Fields looking for a stunner. In retrospect, after 4 nights in Macau, I had my sights set too high for AC, especially that late at night. Anyway first I hit Atlantis, but the girls seemed to be sleep walking on stage. Next I checked out Blue Nile executive and Golden Nile where I indeed found a stunner, but she seemed to be high on something or just a little crazy, so after a drink I said adieu and I passed. Next, I went to Crystal Palace. CP was winding down, but I found a little cutie and asked her over for a drink. She turned out to be a Cherry girl. At that point it was around 1:30am and I called it quits. As I walked into ABC the doorman smiled and asked how my night was. I honestly felt like a loser! Oh, the shame to have struck out my first night in AC. LOL. Anyway, I bounced back the next day with gusto and the next 5 nights were great. So don't despair. Jet lag and starting the hunt too late raises the odds against you. Try Neptune II around 9pm tonight and you will have better luck. And keep in mind, you can't miss in Macau saunas when you get there. I hope you brought your credit card.

The main thing is; get some sleep. Jet lag is really fucked. I usually fly into Asia from south Florida. A 20 hour trip and my internal clock is set 12 hours behind. That is why I always get my doctor to write a prescription for Ambian 10mg. I take an Ambian the first night I arrive and bingo, no jet lag. I wake up in the morning refreshed and ready for anything.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Although prepared through ISG and a German forum my newbie's trip to Hong Kong an Macau turned due to bad timing, bad decisions and simply bad luck into a smallish disaster. Needless to say that it had some fine moments as well. I realised that 5 nights is a bit short when you want to see both Hong Kong and Macau and that costs for hotel rooms (this December and without the chance to find early bird offers or whatsoever) were not justified at all no matter what upmarket place Hong Kong might be.

Day 1 (Thursday) Arrival.

Flying in from Europe around 5 pm I took the airport-hotel shuttle bus and finally checked in a the Metropark Wanchai around 7:30 pm. Have to say this is an okay hotel especially since it's around the corner from New Makati and othe bars it is not worth the 2000 HKD per night they asked for. After a shower and some research on the guidebooks I was heading for Kowloon to test Tim Ho Wan, what seems to be the world's cheapest Michelin-starred restaurant, later I wanted to check out 37 Dundas on corner of Nathan Road and Dundas Street. Of course this was a stupid plan not only Tom Ho Wan was fully booked and had long queues outside it would have been better to check out the Wanchai pick up joints on a Thursday night and leaving the price consistent Dundas for the weekend.

At Dundas I made that classic mistake to pick a girl that was somehow cute looking but didn't interact at all with me while being presented to me. Her office-style costume was a big turn on for me but it kept secretly that she had no breasts at all. The girl (Do Do or Cho Cho, the pronunciation was somewhere in the middle) gave a lacklustre performance doing all the things she was requested but without any enthusiasm. She kept watching herself almost the whole time in the mirrors checking her false eyelashes or her lenses. Fucking was almost not possible since her pussy was so tiny (and dry) so after a few tries we finished with BBBJCIM. Having said that have to admit that around 500 HKG seems to be a fair price if had picked a just little more enthusiastic girl. At that time I thought it was a clever plan being somehow modest on my first day and returning relatively early to my hotel room.

Day 2 (Friday)

Jet leg hit me big time and couldn't sleep longer than two hours. Don't want to bore you with my sightseeing experience throughout the day (tried to get a little compensation nap in the afternoon but it didn't work). So I was tired when I hit the street for some kind of entertainment. The dinner at American Restaurant at 20 Lockhart Road was excellent but took long time so it was almost too late when I arrived around 10:30 pm at New Makati. The guys girl ratio was very bad saw almost two mongers working on each half decent girl. BTW there seemed to be thousands of British or American office guys living in Hong Kong with absolutely nothing to do, just populating the malls, restaurants and later the bars. And to make things worse I couldn't spot any hotties. While I have to admit that most of the Filipinas had supercute faces many of them had little problems with their bodies. The bottom half of the body is generally fuller (Hips, thighs, butts) and their legs always seemed to be way too short. While personality could make up for little mistakes (I mean I am not perfect either) it was way too crowded to find out. So off to Neptune II. Here there seemed to be much more girls. But around midnight the pretty ones weren't around. I spotted a few ones with terrible nose or boob jobs done. They should consider filing suits against the doctors who were responsible for this. Around 1:00 am some nicer cuties arrived (maybe already returning from their first round of FS?). Some smiles and words were exchanged but I felt somehow uncomfortable with the black and latina girls I socialised with. They behaved as if they were going to rob me. One asian girl then took my whole attention. Couldn't even guess where she was from. Half Thai half Indian maybe? While I spotted one of these popular Khmer / Sanskrit tattoo on her back which could be a sign of a Thai or Cambodian heritage she seemed to be too tall for that and her face had almost Indian or Arabic features. Her tits were huge so naturally I wasn't the only one who tried to make a pass on her. Actually she was surrounded by guys. And I had to admit that these guys were not middle aged businessmen with growing belly and loosing hair but quite athletic guys some of them even 10 years younger than me. To make things worse I got more and more tired and wasn't even really sure if I wanted a girl with a model face and a porn model body. Mostly I go for the pretty but girl next door types. Around 2:30 am I had to admit defeat and left the territory. OMG! Went home alone! While normally I would say the process of drinking and playing with the girl, feeling the vibes and the (sometimes) semi-professional attitude might suit me well, but the Wan Chai way of mongering simply didn't work out for me and returning to my hotel room I wished I could beam myself to Bangkok's Soi Cowboy.

(To be continued.) Be sure to check out the tea dances in Wanchai on Sunday afternoon. Sundays are when the domestic helpers normally have their day off and the places are filled with the type of chicks you are looking for. Scroll back over this thread for the past couple of days for details.

[Chantik]

Null Null.

You must have been unlucky.

Bar scene in Wanchai has been very quiet for the last week.

Bars like Neptune, Escape rely on visiting businessman. And it is this time of the year.

Few girls I know that regularly visit bars have been staying home. Cause most of the clients are business people.

Actually December is the quietest month of the year for W / L.

Will be lots of DH out for the next three days (public holidays) although I am unsure that you will find a model girl with a porn star body.

Afternoon tea dance is a term used in Singapore - never heard this term in Hong Kong.

[JackTheLad2]

Null Null.

You must have been unlucky.Sometimes you also have to make your own luck. You should not spend too much time in the one place if you are not making progress. Better to move on. Try Neptune 111 and Escape. There is also Forrest and Traffic, not to mention Borocay where on the odd occasion you can get lucky. Even Amazonia or Joe Bananas are worth a 10 minute visit to see whats going on.

If all else fails there is always the 141 hotel reservation girls but get them to come to your hotel. That way, if you don't like what you see or if there is bait and switch, you can always reject. Even the WL's walking the streets between visiting different bars can be "interesting" and its not too difficult to start up a conversation. A smile can be all it takes.

[Ramn HK]

Well I hope Hong Kong gets the opportunity of you gracing our shores again. A few things:

There are many foot / body massage joints in Wanchai run by Thai people. Its about $80 for 45 minutes. Take 1, or 1. 5 or even 2 sessions. For me a foot massage lulls me into a deep sleep and I feel very refreshed after. This is what I do when I have a heavy night with the boys. You can even do a body massage or even a combo body and foot if you like. There are no extras here. There are other joints in Wanchai that give a body massage for about 298 which includes a HE. These are normally local joints. Or you can do what Jackthelad2 did which was to call up for a massage plus to his room. Please refer to his posts on this.

Two of the places where I have seen young, attractive Filipinas are Neptune 3 and on occasion in Boracay. Both places have a mamasan so takeaway will be a little more. Amazonia has girls of all ages and nationalities. I've been where you're at. Many times its just a matter of adjusting your preferences.

In conclusion there are lots of places in Wanchai. The forum is indeed your friend if you care to read it, it will provide you with lots of information. Jackthelad2 has written extensively on his trips here, so reading his posts will give you a wealth of information. Get a massage and your much needed rest and find your new friend and have her attack you all night long.

As for your experience in Dundas, we've all been there where the young lady of our choice didn't perform as expected. Next time you're there, tell the mamasan what type/shape of body you're looking for. They generally will try to cater to your wishes based upon the girls there and how busy it is. Generally it starts getting busy from about 5pm onwards. If you don't mind older girls, you can try K Pressure. They're not good looking but they do a god job. In both places, you can get a threesome.

Have fun and stay safe!

[Chantik]

Apparently the navy will be in Hk next week or the week after.

Good for the ladies and bad for the local resdients.

Compliments of the season to everyone.

[Chantik]

Sometimes you also have to make your own luck. You should not spend too much time in the one place if you are not making progress. Better to move on. Try Neptune 111 and Escape. There is also Forrest and Traffic, not to mention Borocay where on the odd occasion you can get lucky. Even Amazonia or Joe Bananas are worth a 10 minute visit to see whats going on.

If all else fails there is always the 141 hotel reservation girls but get them to come to your hotel. That way, if you don't like what you see or if there is bait and switch, you can always reject. Even the WL's walking the streets between visiting different bars can be "interesting" and its not too difficult to start up a conversation. A smile can be all it takes.Jack.

You advise is wise.

I was trying to be positive for Null Null.

He should have had success today with the D / H. This is one day the girls don't like because guys can't get away from family.

Null Null should have a good day today or otherwise he doesn't click with HK.

[Nullnull]

Thanks for all your kind words and advice but I am already back in Europe.

@Natty Bumpo: I will try this Ambien 10 mg thing next time. Never had these problems before in Thailand, India, Burma or elsewhere.

It was definitely not Hong Kong's fault, it were my own decisions and bad timings. So here is how my last days in Hong Kong turned out.

Day 3 (Saturday)

Almost no sleep at night again, tired again. Moved to the Renaissance, nice harbour view rooms but my advice is to avoid breakfast at the club lounge, very limited choice of food. This night I was early at the bars. Started with New Makati, almost dead at 8:30 pm and limited choice of honeys so I moved to Neptune III, even there it was almost empty. So back to New Makati and around 10:00pm the pretty ones finally came in. What a change of fortune then! Flora, one of the younger and much better looking girls danced towards my barstool. After a few smiles and hellos she gripped my hand and made her dance routines right in front of me. In between a nice little chit chat and self confidence was growing till suddenly a female friend of hers asked if she could take her away for a few seconds "Don't worry! She'll be back." Of course she wasn't back instead left the joint 30 minutes later avoiding eye contact with me. I played it cool but have to admit I found these pinay girls very hard to handle. Then a 100 percent hooker (Pinay with blondish hair, lots of make up, very short skirt, that fuck me look) suddenly was all over me and asked for a drink. I politely declined but she kept trying, whispering in my ear that I should relax and enjoy while she engaged in some kind of massaging my thighs. I had to tell her explicitly that she was a pretty girl but things wouldn't work out for us. At the same time another girl was pantomiming a blow job with the straw in her drink and smiled at me. While it was kind of fun I would only take her if no better options were available. Two more embarrassing rounds through the whole joint, a smile here, a wink there but nothing really caught my attention. The cuties were gone or all over some other guys begging them to pick them. Seemed my pickiness also played a major part. I already thought about ordering one of the 141 girls but I wanted to check Escape and Neptune II first. In Escape the action seems to start later, around midnight it was very quiet. Off to Neptune II and not much time to lose anymore I spotted up a Thai cutie. 28 years old, looking younger, her braces (giving her that somehow innocent look) won me over. Geez! Why do I always fall for the Isaan girls? We settled for a ridiculous high price (3000 HKD) for LT but maybe this is the going rate if you are easy prey on a Saturday night and I didn't really want to negotiate.

Back at the hotel it turned out Nok (Nuk?) was not innocent at all but a good fuck. If only her showering, toothbrush, make-up-removing routine didn't take almost one hour we would probably have performed more than two rounds in different positions including well performed BBBJ. While she slept in my arms I wasn't unhappy with my choice but couldn't help to think about my first ever night as a sex tourist with a 18 years old Soi Cowboy honey few years ago. I know there is no point in comparing prices and performances but I did nevertheless.

Day 4 (Sunday. Off to Macau)

Day 5 (Monday)

Have had two fantastic sauna experiences in Macau (will report in the Macau thread) and returned late to Hong Kong. Checked in at the Metropark Causeway Bay (the rooms have nice views but apart from that I didn't like this hotel at all) around 11 pm. Should I give Wan Chai another try before leaving for Europe the next day? Of course I did and arrived at New Makati around midnight. There were not so many girls available but for a Monday night the selection was o. K, even a few lookers were there. After a little while a pretty girl smiled at me and asked me to come over to the bar. Exchanging a few words she realized that she has mistaken me for a "friend" but since I was already next to her we could as well engage in a little conversation. Turned out she was half Indo half Malay and I had to admit that I found her superattractive. She played a bit as if she was kind of a mobster's girlfriend complaining that the music was shit and her drinks needed to have more vodka inside. After the all-obedient girls in Sanado and East Spa I found talking to this little rascal somehow refreshing. In between we danced a little and she introduced me to some friends who all gave me a big smile as if to encourage me, I even got two beers on the house. Then suddenly she came up with the topic of her Chinese boyfriend (and who he was). I thought what a nice way to get rid of me! But the very next moment I had her tongue very deep in my mouth. And did she know how to kiss! This went on literally for hours. And despite her drunkenness, despite all the stupid things she said, and the horrible hopelessness of it all, I was in heaven when we kissed or as Mr. Humbert would have put it in "paradise. A paradise whose skies were the colour of hell-flames. But still a paradise." But of course this didn't lead to a happy end. It was almost 4:00 am when she told me she would understand if I wanted to go home to get some sleep before my (not so early) morning flight leaving for Europe and she wouldn't be upset. Finally I had enough of her mind games and decided to call it a day. Bye bye sweet Indo honey! While I couldn't stay with her without making a complete idiot of me I felt not too proud when I finally returned alone to my hotel room.

Maybe things weren't really that bad? I have had two great days at Macau spas, one nice Thai cutie in my HK hotel room, one somehow mechanical BBBJCIM plus rimming at 37 Dundas and finally kissed a girl I really fancied. But it could have been better without all the insomnia, bad timing and wrong decisions. So maybe next time.

[Chantik]

Null Null.

Think you went to Macau on the worst day. Sunday is the day that you want to be in HK for the helper scene.

Unsure what the problem was with the Indo / Malay girl. According to your report you seemed to be with her for a long time. You didn't seal the deal. The only possible problem is that maybe the girl didn't want to wake up early in the morning. Suppose you could have taken her short time.

Once you have bought the girl a drink or two. You need to take them out. Or move on to the next girl.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Null Null.

You must have been unlucky.

Bar scene in Wanchai has been very quiet for the last week.

Bars like Neptune, Escape rely on visiting businessman. And it is this time of the year.

Few girls I know that regularly visit bars have been staying home. Cause most of the clients are business people.

Actually December is the quietest month of the year for W / L.

Will be lots of DH out for the next three days (public holidays) although I am unsure that you will find a model girl with a porn star body.

Afternoon tea dance is a term used in Singapore. Never heard this term in Hong Kong.Tea dance is Chinese term translated into English. I'm sure it's been heard there too.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Apparently the navy will be in Hk next week or the week after.

Good for the ladies and bad for the local resdients.

Compliments of the season to everyone.Why is the US Navy being in town bad for the locals? Sounds rather racist to me.

[BionicMan]

Why is the US Navy being in town bad for the locals? Sounds rather racist to me.What if "it is bad for the local buyer market"? Does it sound better?

[SeiaDoon]

why is the us navy being in town bad for the locals? sounds rather racist to me.nothing racist. it's just that the navy peeps all go to wan chai, and some of them get really rowdy.

too much demand and not enough supply in the wc bars.

haven't seen that many navy people on the tst side each time they visit, so that area might be better.

[Johnny Rocket]

Null null, your problems can be summed up by the fact that you're an amateur and also seem too picky. I hope you will improve with experience, your posts made me cringe. Also 3K LT? You're worse than the Navy.

[Johnny Rocket]

Why is the US Navy being in town bad for the locals? Sounds rather racist to me.Because they drive up the prices. They are also drunken boorish meatheads, but I suppose most guys on here wouldn't mind if they didn't drive up the prices.

[Chantik]

Why is the US Navy being in town bad for the locals? Sounds rather racist to me.It is beyond me how my comments could be construed as racist. Or even implied.

Locals refer to permanent residents. Which can be any nationality.

Because there are thousands of YOUNG navy guys filling up the streets and bars in Wanchai and LKF so many local guys stay home for a few days.

Of course the bar owners love it cause all NAVY must pay an entrance fee to enter a bar.

[Chantik]

Because they drive up the prices. They are also drunken boorish meatheads, but I suppose most guys on here wouldn't mind if they didn't drive up the prices.Actually the Navy guys don't drive up the prices.

They are short time guys and traditionally paid US $100 for ST. Though in the last two years they pay US $150. Which is close to the average.

Do agree they are drunken, moorish meatheads.

One final thing. Joke is that everytime the NAVY comes to town every girl is a hooker for a few days.

[Nullnull]

Null Null.

Think you went to Macau on the worst day. Sunday is the day that you want to be in HK for the helper scene.Five nights only was a bit too short for such strategic planning.


Unsure what the problem was with the Indo / Malay girl.So was I. Sorry for bothering you with that story. She was drunk, I was getting drunk. She knew too soon that I would concentrate on her and she knew how to push my buttons. Maybe it was kind of psychological benefit for her to play with me.


Null null, your problems can be summed up by the fact that you're an amateur and also seem too picky. I hope you will improve with experience, your posts made me cringe. Also 3K LT? You're worse than the Navy.As I said before I wasn't too proud of my amateurishness but maybe some other amateur can learn from my mistakes?

What do you usually pay on Saturday night in Neptune II for LT? Then again it's easy to be wise if you can have Indo / Pinay / Thai girls every day of the year.

[BionicMan]

Actually the Navy guys don't drive up the prices.

They are short time guys and traditionally paid US $100 for ST. Though in the last two years they pay US $150. Which is close to the average.

Do agree they are drunken, moorish meatheads.

One final thing. Joke is that everytime the NAVY comes to town every girl is a hooker for a few days.Maybe they pay straight on with no negotiations, Maybe their ST is really short, maybe they don't indulge in complicate sex. So probably much preferred by the providers as they can sum up many ST guys in an evening, whilst the regular "local" customers are more time consuming, take their time to chose, browse around with interviews till they find their pick. So a girl might get only a couple of ST. Being the Navy guys also many hundreds, there is less wasted time in the search of "thc girl" so that their fellow sailor picks that girl up.

Seems to me much less of a buyer market, for sure.

[Uncle Goober]

Apparently the navy will be in Hk next week or the week after.Here on 27. Leave night of 30.

Cheers

[Chantik]

Maybe they pay straight on with no negotiations, Maybe their ST is really short, maybe they don't indulge in complicate sex. So probably much preferred by the providers as they can sum up many ST guys in an evening, whilst the regular "local" customers are more time consuming, take their time to chose, browse around with interviews till they find their pick. So a girl might get only a couple of ST. Being the Navy guys also many hundreds, there is less wasted time in the search of "thc girl" so that their fellow sailor picks that girl up.

Seems to me much less of a buyer market, for sure.Girls like the navy guys. Hence my sentence about every girl being a hooker for a few days.

The guys that drive up the prices. Are the business travellers. Hence HK being a financial capital.

Local residents actually drive down the prices. W / L will work out your status. Traveller or local resident. You are a business traveller they quote 2000 for S / T. Determine that you are a local resident they quote 1000 for S / T.

And in the bigger bars like Neptune, Escape the clientele is probably 70% travellers and 30% local residents.

Local guys more commonly find their service providers in bars like Makati or Forest or even pubs like Old China Hand and Queen Victoria.

[Makeupaname]

Goes by the name of "Forest". It is on the floor above Joe Bananas. You get an elevator up one floor to it. There are nearly always a couple of girls outside encouraging you to visit the place. The floor above "Forest" is "Traffic". Got to be honest, I never found them to be very good but maybe that's just me.I think it was "Traffic". I had been there for a walk through once at night and wasnt impressed. But on the Sunday afternoon I went, there were quit a few girls I would entertain. Next time I will head there 1st.

The girls I have talked to say the young navy guys are hard fuckers and cheap, but they think those guys are better looking. As a former sailor I have nothing against the navy, but now I avoid wan chai if I know they are there.

[Chantik]

I think it was "Traffic". I had been there for a walk through once at night and wasnt impressed. But on the Sunday afternoon I went, there were quit a few girls I would entertain. Next time I will head there 1st.

The girls I have talked to say the young navy guys are hard fuckers and cheap, but they think those guys are better looking. As a former sailor I have nothing against the navy, but now I avoid wan chai if I know they are there.The place was Forest.

Traffic does no business on a Sunday afternoon.

[FreebieFan]

Flora, one of the younger and much better looking girls danced towards my barstool. After a few smiles and hellos she gripped my hand and made her dance routines right in front of me. In between a nice little chit chat and self confidence was growing till suddenly a female friend of hers asked if she could take her away for a few seconds

But of course this didn't lead to a happy end. It was almost 4:00 am when she told me she would understand if I wanted to go home to get some sleep before my (not so early) morning flight leaving for Europe and she wouldn't be upset. Finally I had enough of her mind games and decided to call it a day.In a bar, in a club where there are working girls, the confident guy, whos got game, who knows the game and knows the rules of the game will always win out. You see what you like and you state your case. If she likes what you offer, seal the deal. If she doesn't, wave her off, and move onto the next. I see guys in clubs sitting and waiting and see other guys who know what they want and know how to do. When you make the decisions as to who your partner is you are in control and that outcome will ALWAYS be better. When you arent the one in control, the outcome could be as you experienced. Next time try a new more confident strategy and see what the results are.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Actually the Navy guys don't drive up the prices.

They are short time guys and traditionally paid US $100 for ST. Though in the last two years they pay US $150. Which is close to the average.

Do agree they are drunken, moorish meatheads.

One final thing. Joke is that everytime the NAVY comes to town every girl is a hooker for a few days.Those 'drunken, moorish meatheads' are the ones who will save your ass every single time your helpless little country gets in a bind so I suggest you change your tune toward them. Same goes for you other assholes who feel threatened by them and see fit to calling them names. And sorry, I don't see how a shipload of patriots bringing a huge pile of cash into the city whenever they visit is a problem for the locals, or anyone else for that matter.

[Chantik]

This forum is for the exchange of information related to sex and all its bits and pieces.

It is not a forum for breast-beating patriotism or belittling other countries / nationalities.

The strangest thing is that I have no idea of the origins of other posters but Have a fair idea of the origin of the latest poster.

[Red Rider]

Agreed! Let's move on.

[Uncle Goober]

The strangest thing is that I have no idea of the origins of other posters but Have a fair idea of the origin of the latest poster.It never ceases to amaze me how some (not all by any means but certainly some) of our Apple Pie posters react when any of their servicemen and women are criticised.

When boorish meatheads from my country are criticised, I agree (and indeed I applauded 20 years ago when the Mad Dogs / Joe Bananas group banned the Aussie navy en masse because of their boorish behaviour). Every country has meatheads. And there certainly are a good number of boorish meatheads amongst the US Navy crowd. Are they harmless when having their rowdy fun here in HK? Yes, almost entirely. Are they having fun? Yes, quite clearly. Do they spend a lot of cash? Usually yes. But are there many boorish meatheads among them? Also yes.

Oh, BTW Gaijin, as you will have realised, I am from one of those "helpless little countries" that backed your war on terror, and which your very own Commander in Chief described as follows: "It will be a reminder that from the trenches of the First World War to the mountains of Afghanistan, Aussies and Americans have stood together, fought together and given their lives together in every single major conflict of the past hundred years. Every single one."

Oh and to cover Chantik's point, I attach photos of two wonderful pair of tits. (wink) The Chinese girl is a hotel 141 girl that I did two months ago. The other is a screen capture from a video session with an old friend now working as a cam girl.

Cheers.

[Chantik]

A delightful post Uncle Goober.

Guys will enjoy the pics.

Navy hasn't made it into Wanchai YET.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

This forum is for the exchange of information related to sex and all its bits and pieces.

It is not a forum for breast-beating patriotism or belittling other countries / nationalities.

The strangest thing is that I have no idea of the origins of other posters but Have a fair idea of the origin of the latest poster.Chantik, YOU'RE the one who called Navy guys 'drunken, moorish meatheads' so I suggest you follow your own advice. What a hypocrite!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

It never ceases to amaze me how some (not all by any means but certainly some) of our Apple Pie posters react when any of their servicemen and women are criticised.

When boorish meatheads from my country are criticised, I agree (and indeed I applauded 20 years ago when the Mad Dogs / Joe Bananas group banned the Aussie navy en masse because of their boorish behaviour). Every country has meatheads. And there certainly are a good number of boorish meatheads amongst the US Navy crowd. Are they harmless when having their rowdy fun here in HK? Yes, almost entirely. Are they having fun? Yes, quite clearly. Do they spend a lot of cash? Usually yes. But are there many boorish meatheads among them? Also yes.

Oh, BTW Gaijin, as you will have realised, I am from one of those "helpless little countries" that backed your war on terror, and which your very own Commander in Chief described as follows: "It will be a reminder that from the trenches of the First World War to the mountains of Afghanistan, Aussies and Americans have stood together, fought together and given their lives together in every single major conflict of the past hundred years. Every single one."

Oh and to cover Chantik's point, I attach photos of two wonderful pair of tits. (wink) The Chinese girl is a hotel 141 girl that I did two months ago. The other is a screen capture from a video session with an old friend now working as a cam girl.

Cheers.I stand by my comments and I'm fully aware of the purpose of this forum, but when somebody starts bashing American patriots, I will definitely defend them. It never ceases to amaze me that people see fit to criticize American servicemen while simultaneously ignoring the fact that we're defending their country from some terrorist element right under their noses. You as an Australian of all people should be aware of this, 'Uncle Goober'. And Chantik, which group of people do you think was the first on the scene to render aid and supplies the last time (and the times before that) Indonesia was hit by a deadly tsunami? That's right, the US military. How dare you criticize them in such an ugly, disrespectful fashion. Enough from me on the issue now. If you don't understand my point now, you never will.

[Boarer]

the US military. How dare you criticize them in such an ugly, disrespectful fashion. Enough from me on the issue now. If you don't understand my point now, you never will.Some people never "get it." Try the French or Japanese on WWII. Usually best to leave it at agree to disagree.

I read somewhere that the Indian Ocean Tsunami early warning buoy put there after Thailand was vandalized and no longer working. Go figure. I suspect it had a lot of US money behind it. Don't think the US can afford such largesse and be a self proclaimed world guardian. Need to spread the pain around.


Seems to me much less of a buyer market, for sure.
They are also drunken boorish meatheads,This is a historical battle group. They are mostly from only one branch of the armed forces. I usually make it a point to go to Wanchai during this time to watch their youthful exuberance. Instead of buying the girls drinks I usually buy a round for some of the guys that might be doing the heavy lifting. Because of their volunteering, I do not have to worry about being drafted. I drink to that.

They are mostly well behaved compared to other forces I have seen and met. In my stupidity, I have stepped in to defuse more altercations with civilians and never with these guys. But then again, I am heading back empty handed earlier than normal. (Hard to be as buff as a marine while working as a desk jockey. I think the Nullnull saw the advance recon unit)


Five nights only was a bit too short for such strategic planning.Follow FreebeFan's advice. Or just get Chantik or another WL to show you the ropes. Another punter / wing man is best. RTFF. There were some cuties (DH) heading out to Wanchai over the holiday (employer away) because I met several last week that made it a point to invite me to join them in Wanchai. Problem was that they were usually in packs sponging off the one hot looker. Felt too much like a lamb being led to slaughter.


Guys will enjoy the pics.Can you put your personal version next to Uncle Goober's. I am not sure which one I will enjoy more.

[Chantik]

Chantik, YOU'RE the one who called Navy guys 'drunken, moorish meatheads' so I suggest you follow your own advice. What a hypocrite!I was paraphrasing what Johnny Rocket said in an earlier post. As Boarer highlighted in the post before mine. Read it.

I now understand why my friends joke that America has 51 states rather than 50 states. The 51st state of America is the rest of the world.

Anyway the guys on this forum will be waiting in the New Year for your reports on the Domestic Helper scene.

[Chantik]

Boarer.

Now I know why the US Navy has a stopover in Hong Kong.

You buying rounds of drinks!

[Chantik]

GJ.

Anyway the Navy hasn't let loose on the streets YET. Certain that a poster or two will report on the Wanchai scene in the next few days. And imagine the Navy MAY be mentioned.

[Boarer]

I now understand why my friends joke that America has 51 states rather than 50 states. The 51st state of America is the rest of the world.The mouse that roared.

On a more urgent topic, did you happen to read the last part of my last post?

Also, I hate women working on social media on my dime. (I assume you are "working")

[Chantik]

The mouse that roared.

On a more urgent topic, did you happen to read the last part of my last post?

Also, I hate women working on social media on my dime. (I assume you are "working") Forgot about the last sentence.

Of course being discreet can't put my pic on this website.

You should know that women love social media. Maybe visit a website punterplanet - and see how punters and service providers can peacefully co-exist. Only have to see that around 25% of female profiles on Facebook. Are fronts for other activities.

How am I using your dime?

Although I imagine that you have spent a few dimes in Wanchai !

[Chantik]

Letting guys know that Makati will be having a New Year's Eve party from 10pm.

Should be lots of fun. And a few hot girls.

I may drop by for a drink if not busy.

[Boarer]

GJ.

Anyway the Navy hasn't let loose on the streets YET. Certain that a poster or two will report on the Wanchai scene in the next few days. And imagine the Navy MAY be mentioned.They have been in town for many hours already and making many lonely DH happy; based on the texts I am getting back from some of the wolf packs. Can't believe how accurate their information is (they knew a least a week ago) and how they are still trying to bait me.

[Uncle Goober]

How dare you criticize them in such an ugly, disrespectful fashion. Enough from me on the issue now. If you don't understand my point now, you never will.By calling them drunken boorish meatheads? That is exactly how many of them act while they are here in HK. You disagree? Sit with me in Bar 109 for an hour at about 9pm any night that they are here and watch the parade and listen and watch.

And your "how dare you" and "please just thank us for what we do" (sounds a bit like Jack Nicholson on the wall) means you are being boorish right now.


Enough from me on the issue now. If you don't understand my point now, you never will.Oh, we do understand your point. We just dare to disagree with you, oh mighty world saviour.

Cheers.

[Uncle Goober]

Instead of buying the girls drinks I usually buy a round for some of the guys that might be doing the heavy lifting.Pssst Boarer. So do we (there are many well behaved guys and gals among them as well). But don't tell Gaijin; he thinks everyone who calls drunken boorish meatheads what they are must be ungrateful anti-Americans.

Cheers.

[Boarer]

Pssst Boarer. So do we (there are many well behaved guys and gals among them as well). But don't tell Gaijin; he thinks everyone who calls drunken boorish meatheads what they are must be ungrateful anti-Americans. Cheers. I'll drink to that!

I adore women. I do not know about the other posters in this forum but if I were locked away on a ship where I cannot have sex with a woman for 2 weeks (let alone 6 months) and they you set me loose on WanChai, I would be a ravenous rabid werewolf. Watch out Chantik! You will not see the light of day for a week and your legs will be up in the air the whole time! Oorah!

[FreebieFan]

I was paraphrasing what Johnny Rocket said in an earlier post. As Boarer highlighted in the post before mine. Read it.

I now understand why my friends joke that America has 51 states rather than 50 states. The 51st state of America is the rest of the world.LOL love it! After all the US is the only country that plays a sport pompously calling itself "Tee World Series ". Without realising that no other country is either eligible of playing in same.

[Chantik]

I'll drink to that!

I adore women. I do not know about the other posters in this forum but if I were locked away on a ship where I cannot have sex with a woman for 2 weeks (let alone 6 months) and they you set me loose on WanChai, I would be a ravenous rabid werewolf. Watch out Chantik! You will not see the light of day for a week and your legs will be up in the air the whole time! Oorah!Never do the Navy Guys. Well and truly past that stage.

They are out in force. Seems to be a smaller ship. Hip Hop Music is pumping out from the bars. GRGGH

[Teltel]

LOL love it! After all the US is the only country that plays a sport pompously calling itself "Tee World Series ". Without realising that no other country is either eligible of playing in same.The World Series was in fact named after a newspaper of that name it in no purports to be a world championship.

Teltel

[Uncle Goober]

Seems to be a smaller ship.Nope. It is the Carl Vinson battle group, which is Nimitz class.


Hip Hop Music is pumping out from the bars. GRGGHThat's right, you mutha fu*a. The music is completely useless, objectionable and all sounds the same.

Cheers.

[Boarer]

Seems to be a smaller ship.
Nope. It is the Carl Vinson battle group, which is Nimitz class.Man, I expected more than a short retort from you Uncle Goober. It always amazes me the things that come out of a woman's mouth sometimes; or is it what goes inside. I get confused. It is a ship that is going to be in the history books along with the battle group.


Never do the Navy Guys. Well and truly past that stage.How long were you in that stage and how long since you passed that stage Chantik?

BTW, Chantik, take a look at the book "The Mouse that Roared" in the library. It is a funny short read while you await the semen's departure. Oorah!

[BionicMan]

Man, . It is a funny short read while you await the semen's departure. Oorah!Is that a typo and you meant seAmen's? LOL or we go back to the previous sentence on what goes out nad in a woman mouth? OOoooops! .

[BionicMan]

Nope. It is the Carl Vinson battle group, which is Nimitz class.

Cheers.Has the debate moved from "mine is bigger" to "my ship is bigger"?

I don't think BIG, whatever this is, impresses much asian ladies anyhow.

[Chantik]

Semen or Seaman.

Think I prefer semen.

Music is still pumping out on Lockhart Road.

Haven't been grabbed yet by a Navy Man. Whilst I shop at Wanchai Market.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Some people never "get it." Try the French or Japanese on WWII. Usually best to leave it at agree to disagree.

I read somewhere that the Indian Ocean Tsunami early warning buoy put there after Thailand was vandalized and no longer working. Go figure. I suspect it had a lot of US money behind it. Don't think the US can afford such largesse and be a self proclaimed world guardian. Need to spread the pain around.

This is a historical battle group. They are mostly from only one branch of the armed forces. I usually make it a point to go to Wanchai during this time to watch their youthful exuberance. Instead of buying the girls drinks I usually buy a round for some of the guys that might be doing the heavy lifting. Because of their volunteering, I do not have to worry about being drafted. I drink to that.

They are mostly well behaved compared to other forces I have seen and met. In my stupidity, I have stepped in to defuse more altercations with civilians and never with these guys. But then again, I am heading back empty handed earlier than normal. (Hard to be as buff as a marine while working as a desk jockey. I think the Nullnull saw the advance recon unit)

Follow FreebeFan's advice. Or just get Chantik or another WL to show you the ropes. Another punter / wing man is best. RTFF. There were some cuties (DH) heading out to Wanchai over the holiday (employer away) because I met several last week that made it a point to invite me to join them in Wanchai. Problem was that they were usually in packs sponging off the one hot looker. Felt too much like a lamb being led to slaughter.

Can you put your personal version next to Uncle Goober's. I am not sure which one I will enjoy more.You're a good man, mate. Thanks for that.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I was paraphrasing what Johnny Rocket said in an earlier post. As Boarer highlighted in the post before mine. Read it.

I now understand why my friends joke that America has 51 states rather than 50 states. The 51st state of America is the rest of the world.

Anyway the guys on this forum will be waiting in the New Year for your reports on the Domestic Helper scene.Umm. No you weren't. You simply agreed with him using the same phrase. That's not paraphrasing.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?951-General-Reports&p=1230083&viewfull=1#post1230083

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Semen or Seaman.

Think I prefer semen.

Music is still pumping out on Lockhart Road.

Haven't been grabbed yet by a Navy Man. Whilst I shop at Wanchai Market.Chantik, we all know you're not an Indonesian female as you claim to be. Why the charade?

[Gaijin Gigolo]

LOL love it! After all the US is the only country that plays a sport pompously calling itself "Tee World Series ". Without realising that no other country is either eligible of playing in same.Freebie. We really don't give one damn that nobody else is in our league, least of all weak little nations that always seem to be looking for a handout from us. And I mean that both literally and figuratively.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

By calling them drunken boorish meatheads? That is exactly how many of them act while they are here in HK. You disagree? Sit with me in Bar 109 for an hour at about 9pm any night that they are here and watch the parade and listen and watch.

And your "how dare you" and "please just thank us for what we do" (sounds a bit like Jack Nicholson on the wall) means you are being boorish right now.

Oh, we do understand your point. We just dare to disagree with you, oh mighty world saviour.

Cheers.You haven't seen the way your Ozzie mates act when they get a half pint in them? Take a look around, son.

And if you disagree with the mighty world saviour, don't call us anymore when you need help.

[BionicMan]

Honestly I do not see much the need on this forum to flex the muscles about military power.

This is a mongering forum and the critics over some navy men referred to their behaviour during their mongering actions.

In that context they can be perfect and legitimate assholes or the most handsome men: anyone can comment on that and he is free to do so, regardless of calls for help, democracy being airlifted or seacarried. Anything out of that topics is useless and should be debated elsewhere. This debate became quite annoying and all should better go to the topic and purpose of this forum.

So, Chantik, how was the market for you las night? .

[Chantik]

Honestly I do not see much the need on this forum to flex the muscles about military power.

This is a mongering forum and the critics over some navy men referred to their behaviour during their mongering actions.

In that context they can be perfect and legitimate assholes or the most handsome men: anyone can comment on that and he is free to do so, regardless of calls for help, democracy being airlifted or seacarried. Anything out of that topics is useless and should be debated elsewhere. This debate became quite annoying and all should better go to the topic and purpose of this forum.

So, Chantik, how was the market for you las night? .Not a bar girl so don't see Navy guys.

Work as an escort so punters contact me through a website.

Think a couple of my girlfriends are happy that the Navy is in town cause business in the bars has been quiet in the last 10 days. Though December is a quiet month. Need those business travellers back in Hong Kong.

[BionicMan]

Not a bar girl so don't see Navy guys. Work as an escort so punters contact me through a website.

Think a couple of my girlfriends are happy that the Navy is in town cause business in the bars has been quiet in the last 10 days. Though December is a quiet month. Need those business travellers back in Hong Kong.Good to know, obviously my question was mainly to break the ice from the nonsense discussions below, and divert from there

But good to know more about you as more pertaining to the forum topics.

A bar girl wouldn't have much time to interact so much and frequently in here, especially in the working hours.

You are less on the hunt, most likely. Whenever you want to reveal more about you, without compromising your job, il can only add spice to the talks as we have a unique and unusual point of view here: the provider. Doesn't happen often, if not at all.

[Chantik]

Good to know, obviously my question was mainly to break the ice from the nonsense discussions below, and divert from there

But good to know more about you as more pertaining to the forum topics.

A bar girl wouldn't have much time to interact so much and frequently in here, especially in the working hours.

You are less on the hunt, most likely. Whenever you want to reveal more about you, without compromising your job, il can only add spice to the talks as we have a unique and unusual point of view here: the provider. Doesn't happen often, if not at all.Bionicman.

Check out this website punterplanet. It is an Australian website for punters and service providers. They seem to get on OK.

It was actually a punter who advised me to join this website. He thought that I had some useful information about the P4P scene in Hong Kong.

I actually post more often after midnight. When I check my emails after a busy day's work.

[BionicMan]

Bionicman.

Check out this website punterplanet. It is an Australian website for punters and service providers. They seem to get on OK.

It was actually a punter who advised me to join this website. He thought that I had some useful information about the P4P scene in Hong Kong.

I actually post more often after midnight. When I check my emails after a busy day's work.Undoubtedly your perspective is always very interesting, actual, with no frills. I appreciate you are not here to advertise yourself in a subtle way. I am sure your PM might receive quite some inquiries and broadens your clientele, even if the most regular members do not seem inclined into the escort services. I am not much either, surely making a mistake. Probably the (innocent)"hunt" and flirting adds to the game of a night out not to return back alone. At the end of the day (or, better, of the night) it is often a hit or miss, be she the stunner having groped you for a whole evening letting you dream of delights turning into a starfish, or an unknown escort becoming a hot and GFE girl few seconds after she gets in the room and you close the door behind her. Had quite some in Brazil, they are called Garota de Programa there, but it is true often you tend to forget they are there fir a job and for the money. Matter of DNA, sometime. Good luck for your business, BTW

[Uncle Goober]

You haven't seen the way your Ozzie mates act when they get a half pint in them?Yawn. Yes, I have. Please read my earlier post about this. I said that when I see them act like that I am happy to call them boorish meatheads as well. And I applauded when the Mad Dogs / JB group banned them some time ago.

If you are going to debate and / or correct people, please do a better job of it.

Cheers.

[Makeupaname]

Chantik, we all know you're not an Indonesian female as you claim to be. Why the charade?
Undoubtedly your perspective is always very interesting, actual, with no frills. I appreciate you are not here to advertise yourself in a subtle way. I am sure your PM might receive quite some inquiriesChantiks grammar and vocabulary is defiantly not that of an indonesian working girl, but he does have current info on wan chai. I doubt many regular ISGers believe it, but I am sure there are a few lurkers sending PMs.

[Uncle Goober]

Man, I expected more than a short retort from you Uncle Goober.OK, then, Boarer, just for you. I'm getting a bit lazy in my old age, and all that turkey and mulled wine has slowed me down even further!

Was out again last night for a couple of hours.

Not the usual steady flow of couples from bars to Ming / Beverly that usually happens when navy in town. Girls are reporting that the boys are not spending like usual (for sex). One or two drinks but few escorts being paid for. That said, the go go bars are still opening at mid afternoon and the girls working a 14 hour shift while navy here.

Bar 109 busy. But way too loud with mf*ka music.

Insiders not as busy, but just as annoyingly noisy.

Coyote packed as usual. They have deployed the Carlsberg wagons that they normally reserve for the Rugby Sevens. Tequila sales must be good, because as usual every second guy or girl parading up and down the street of shame was wearing a Coyote Corona hat and the yellow "fire siren" was going off every 10 minutes or so. Those hats were a great marketing idea by the former manager Gareth (who has moved onto a bigger and better job elsewhere, BTW).

Around 10pm there was a minor brawl between some navy guys from Coyote and a few of the scum who inhabit Queen Victoria next door. One of the scum was a massive brute that looked like a guy from ZZ Top. SLG stepped in and broke it up fairly quickly. The police arrived but only after everyone had fled the scene, both navy and scum.

Didn't venture to either Neptunes or Escape.

Finished off with a quiet G&T at HandleBar, which was a peaceful oasis as usual.

Judging by the foot traffic, there doesn't seem to be the same quantity or quality of freelancers around. Maybe they are still in their home countries celebrating Christmas with the family.

That's about it.

Cheers.

[FreebieFan]

Freebie. We really don't give one damn that nobody else is in our league, least of all weak little nations that always seem to be looking for a handout from us. And I mean that both literally and figuratively.Fatantastic well thought out reply. And there I was commenting about a sporting situation, when up pops Big John waving his stars and stripes.

And you wonder why Americans now actively hide their passports in check in queues (in English we says Queues, certainly not lines). I think you just provided us all with the answer.

Although given that China seems to own most of the Sovereign debt of America, it would seem that America will be soon seeking its own handouts.

[Howman]

I visited Hong Kong for the first time in late November and mid-December. I visited Phuket, Thailand in between and was able to get a surprisingly good round trip rate from Hong Kong through Air Asia. This report is aimed towards newbies. As always, this forum nails the best of scene. Hong Kong isn't the best place for budget / mid-range travelers. At least on this trip, I'm glad I booked my hotels though Agoda well in advance since the rates skyrocketed as my trip aproached. I limited my night time activities in Kowloon. The go-go bars in Wan Chai sounded like budget killers.

I stopped in Sticky Fingers. Good band playing hard rock tunes and looking like they have day jobs as accountants. There were some actractive ladies but they were far outnumbered by tons of men that looked like they were on a corporate retreat. I stayed at The Bauhinia TST by Knutworth Terrace on the front end of the trip. Never brought anyone up but found a good rub and tug around the corner on Kimberley Road. I noticed the next day that there was a small yellow sign next to the enterance. It's by the Ben and Jerry's. Paid $300HK.

The rest of my activities were up in Mong Kok. On the back end of the trip, I stayed at the Casa Hotel on Nathan. This is a nice hotel to be walking distance to the Temple Night Market (behind the hotel) and the 141. Com buildings in the area. I spent the first night roaming the market, drinking Carlsberg Special Brew and shopping for Christmas gifts. As reported here, as the market starts to close, the ladies start to appear. I didn't see anyone that I wanted to bang so I walked down to Dundas 37 which is also by the hotel.

Ok, so this was not one of my prouder moments at Dundas 37. Since I'll never meet any of you in person, I guess I can tell this story. I picked a young, eager lady. After a quick shower, it was down to business. It's been a while since I've had the salad tossed. Just as I was really starting to enjoy it, I ripped a huge fart in the face of the young lady with her tounge down my anus. I was mortified! I thought I was going to puke! She assured me it was OK, and she got back to business. I was starting to get my mojo back. As she's riding me cowgirl, I look out the corner of my eye and there is a huge cockroach running down the side of the bed. Oh man, I hate cockroaches, esp. When I naked. She took a few swips and the sucker just would not die. It kept doing laps around the bed, his bed obviously."He likes to watch" the girl has been trained to say. I didn't think I was going to be able to finish. Knocks started coming at the door but the girl was a trooper and finished me with a BBBJ in the shower. The mamasan asks me how it was and I tell her the girl was great but get an exterminator.

I enjoyed a couple of 141 girls in Mong Kok. This was great raw experience, just a small notch below Vila Mimosa in Rio and the brothels of Ecuador for me. There is something about walking into a dingy building on a bustling street, taking the rickety elevator up to the 9th floor and walking out into narrow hallways lined with red lights and small apartments containing ladies that will make you very happy for between $300 to $400HK. The best one I visited during the late afternoon had about a dozen post-it notes on the back of the door. They all had a time written on it. I'm assuming that each one represented a customer she had. Senior members, let me know if you can confirm this. The folks that contribute to this forum blazed the trail. I only follow in the foot steps.

[The Tanuki]

And you wonder why Americans now actively hide their passports in check in queues (in English we says Queues, certainly not lines).I usually tell people I'm Canadian if I don't know them, as my accent is quite close. One thing I've loved about SE Asia is the lack of chest thumping Americans. Now that's gone too? Damn.

To keep things on topic, though, I agree with punter Howman on Sticky Fingers basically but I noticed that nobody pursues the girls much. So you can take your time to decide about the few ladies in attendance and not have competition it seems. Got a nice Filipina spinner there last time!

Cheers.

The Tanuki

[Chantik]

Chantiks grammar and vocabulary is defiantly not that of an indonesian working girl, but he does have current info on wan chai. I doubt many regular ISGers believe it, but I am sure there are a few lurkers sending PMs.What?

My grammar is very average. I don't write as well as 90% of posters.

Uncle Goobers report from last night is very accurate.

Not surprised that there was a minor fight outside QV. Regular guys and girls like it to be peaceful. Maybe it was the loud RAP music from Coyote. Navy guys do enjoy Coyote.

PM's. Get very few PM's. They say a dog's bark is worse than its bite.

[JackTheLad2]

I look out the corner of my eye and there is a huge cockroach running down the side of the bed. Oh man, I hate cockroaches, esp. When I naked. She took a few swips and the sucker just would not die. It kept doing laps around the bed, his bed obviously."He likes to watch" the girl has been trained to say.Great report. Loved it.

It looks as if its not only the girl that needs to be examined closely when visiting 37 Dundas. That's put me right off!

[Boarer]

OK, then, Boarer, just for you.Thank you Uncle Goober.


Around 10pm there was a minor brawl between some navy guys from CoyoteDarn! I missed it. Maybe they will repeat on Friday night.

Great report. I was actually prodding you to tell Chantik that the Nimitz class is the biggest, meanest and sickest ship to sail the Seven Seas.

I actually enjoy the break into hip-hop and having the crew show off the latest and dirtiest dancing. Heck, when I try to go club hopping in the States, it is a lot harder and dangerous to go to hip-hop joints.

My little dig at women was because it reminded me of a time when, only with a few minutes left in a very interesting game, the phone rang and I had to vacate the room. Rushed down to the nearest pub showing the game to watch the end. My little companion started getting very excited, animated and squealing at the wrong moments. I got many glares and a couple sympathetic looks from the other patrons.


My grammar is very average. I don't write as well as 90% of posters.Chantik, I suspect more than 10% of Americans are illiterate and you probably write better than half of the Americans. That is a big jump from just being able to speak English. I only wish my Bahasa, Chinese, or Tagalog is a good as your English (I can say beer in all the aforementioned languages). Man, that really expands the pool of ladies one can seduce or at least talk into bed. I. E. Freebies.


I look out the corner of my eye and there is a huge cockroach running down the side of the bed.Good report. However, also read a report about how Mongkok has the highest density of cockroaches and rats (the non human kind) in Hong Kong. Wait till you see the rest of Asia. Seen snakes, big beetles, geckoes, spiders, and other insects.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Chantiks grammar and vocabulary is defiantly not that of an indonesian working girl, but he does have current info on wan chai. I doubt many regular ISGers believe it, but I am sure there are a few lurkers sending PMs.Exactly right.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Just as I was really starting to enjoy it, I ripped a huge fart in the face of the young lady with her tounge down my anus.LOL! Chantik, he sounds like your kind of guy. You two should hook up!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Fatantastic well thought out reply. And there I was commenting about a sporting situation, when up pops Big John waving his stars and stripes.

And you wonder why Americans now actively hide their passports in check in queues (in English we says Queues, certainly not lines). I think you just provided us all with the answer.

Although given that China seems to own most of the Sovereign debt of America, it would seem that America will be soon seeking its own handouts.


Who's hiding their passport? We Americans are rightfully proud of who we are and don't hide it from anybody. I do believe you must've been sauced up hallucinating if that's what you think you saw in the LINE of people at customs, dude. And we say 'dude', not 'mate'. A mate is your life's partner with whom you have sex and raise a family with. But as I said, we don't care what anybody thinks of us. Must suck to be where you're from, hmmm....

[Tanglin]

Who's hiding their passport? We Americans are rightfully proud of who we are and don't hide it from anybody. I do believe you must've been sauced up hallucinating if that's what you think you saw in the LINE of people at customs, dude. And we say 'dude', not 'mate'. A mate is your life's partner with whom you have sex and raise a family with. But as I said, we don't care what anybody thinks of us. Must suck to be where you're from, hmmm.Speak for yourself. I'm an American expat and I keep my passport in it's cover when going through immigration everywhere except in the US, and most American expats I know do the same. I'm not ashamed of my country at all, but I am ashamed at how some of my countrymen act when they're outside the US. Rather than be associated with them, which happens more often than we'd like, most of us experienced travelers know it's better just to keep a low profile.

[Johnny Rocket]

Those 'drunken, moorish meatheads' are the ones who will save your ass every single time your helpless little country gets in a bind so I suggest you change your tune toward them. Same goes for you other assholes who feel threatened by them and see fit to calling them names. And sorry, I don't see how a shipload of patriots bringing a huge pile of cash into the city whenever they visit is a problem for the locals, or anyone else for that matter.You're moving to HK right? LMAO You'd better shitcan that attitude before you come here, you will give Americans a worse reputation than they already have. Some of that bad reputation came from the drunken boorish meatheads in the Navy that visit here a few times a year. I don't feel threatened by them, good for them for having a good time, working for Uncle Sam must suck pretty badly.

P. S. America hasn't saved anyone since WWII and you've long since destroyed all of the admiration and good will that came out of your performance in that war.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.

[Johnny Rocket]

I was paraphrasing what Johnny Rocket said in an earlier post. As Boarer highlighted in the post before mine. Read it.

I now understand why my friends joke that America has 51 states rather than 50 states. The 51st state of America is the rest of the world.

Anyway the guys on this forum will be waiting in the New Year for your reports on the Domestic Helper scene. I'm sure he will crush it. LOL

[Johnny Rocket]

You haven't seen the way your Ozzie mates act when they get a half pint in them? Take a look around, son.

And if you disagree with the mighty world saviour, don't call us anymore when you need help.Which is the last country that called America for help? I can assure you that in Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Haiti, Iraq (twice) , Afghanistan and Libya, among other places, the Americans were uninvited "guests."

[Johnny Rocket]

Chantik, we all know you're not an Indonesian female as you claim to be. Why the charade?I can assure you that she is.

Typical American, showing up and telling everyone what's what.

[Johnny Rocket]

I usually tell people I'm Canadian if I don't know them, as my accent is quite close. One thing I've loved about SE Asia is the lack of chest thumping Americans. Now that's gone too? Damn.

To keep things on topic, though, I agree with punter Howman on Sticky Fingers basically but I noticed that nobody pursues the girls much. So you can take your time to decide about the few ladies in attendance and not have competition it seems. Got a nice Filipina spinner there last time!

Cheers.

The TanukiTHIS 100%

I tell people I'm Canadian too. And I definitely have not missed the American attitude.

[Member #4698]

Gaijin Gigolo,

Don't waste your time defending the USA to the anti Americans on the board. It is to be expected. They will just laugh at your 'misplaced patriotism' and national pride. I first encountered this anti Americanism on my first trip to Mexico and Central American a million years ago. My buddy and I hit many beaches from Mazatlan to Salinas and spent a month in Panajachel before eventually making it to Costa Rica. It was a great 6 month trip and we met lots of interesting people. I fucked a lot of backpacker chicks back then from the USA, Canada, UK, France and Switzerland as well as shagging a few P4P locals. As far as P4P, San Jose was the best scene, far better than anything in Mexico. We used to hit the clubs an hour before closing and arrange to meet the chicas later. I never paid for sex in San Jose on that first trip.

Anyway, we made a lot of friends and partied a lot. But even among our friends, there was this anti American bias that they would get into if the conversation drifted that way. I would ask some of these people, 'hey, I'm an American, you know this; why are you insulting my country. I am not insulting your country'. And it was like a deer in headlights. They just did not get it. Euros and Canadians are so used to reading and seeing anti American BS in their left wing elite media and universities that they just take it as a given. They are unaware of their bias; it is embedded so deep in their national political psyche. Americans are fed this non ending left wing anti American propaganda too. Hell, we even have an anti American president, Barack Hussein Obama, going around the world apologizing for our country. It is unbelievable. I started out as a lefty when I was young and just out of school, but as I traveled and saw more of the world close hand, I started appreciating the good old' USA and yes, what it is has done for the world I. E. Rescued millions from totalitarianism. I began to read Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman and learned Capitalism is not so bad after all. That maybe these supposed well meaning, left wing, political ideologies don't deliver the prosperity or fairness they purport to be all about. I would now describe myself an economic conservative and a social libertarian as well as a proud American.

A lot of people have written America off. They think we are in decline. Maybe so, but I wouldn't count us out just yet. We have a tremendous capacity to bounce back. In 4 or 5 years the USA may be oil independent. Think about that naysayers; no more imports from Saudi Arabia. But, if the USA were to fall, what then? The relatively intelligent people who naively believe the world will be a better place amaze me. Example #1: right now radical Islam is on the march. They have declared war on Western Civilization. The left will not acknowledge this fact, but how else do you explain Islam's bloody borders everywhere in the world. It is not just Palestine, but Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Libya, India, PI, Thailand, and it is growing in European cities. Arab spring, give me a break. This is a descent into radical totalitarianism. Some Euros are beginning to wake up to the war, but not the left anti-American Elites still running the European media and many governments there and not even the US State Department. Norway and Sweden are the most notable Islamic apologists. My point is when push comes to shove, it is going to be the USA that will be called on to defend Western Civilization with some help from our allies. This paragraph should get a lot of ridicule from the lefties.

Gaijin, we have gotten a long way off the subject of poontang in Asia. Let it go. You or I are not going to persuade anybody who does not see it our way. Time will convice many of the merit of our point of view. In the meantime, keep in mind that along with all the perks of being an American is the burden of putting up with the lefties, be they Americans themselves or western Europeans and Canadians. It goes with the territory. I would not have it any other way. Funny how America's closest friends are countries just freed from slavery or on the front lines with radical Islam. Liberal Western Europeans seem to want to forget WW2, the Marshall plan and the Cold War. They don't like to be reminded that without the USA, France for instance, would be slave state under the control of the Soviet Union. The USA is far from perfect. It has a lot of problems, but if not for the USA, I probably would not have been born, so yes, I am red, white and blue through and through and proud of it. I may prefer to live and monger in South Asia, but my home will always be the USA.

[Member #4698]

Which is the last country that called America for help?Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Estonia, Bosnia, Georgia, Kuwait, Southern Sudan, Darfur, Kurdistan, to name a few.

[Johnny Rocket]

Gaijin Gigolo,

Don't waste your time defending the USA to the anti Americans on the board. It is to be expected. They will just laugh at your 'misplaced patriotism' and national pride. I first encountered this anti Americanism on my first trip to Mexico and Central American a million years ago. My buddy and I hit many beaches from Mazatlan to Salinas and spent a month in Panajachel before eventually making it to Costa Rica. It was a great 6 month trip and we met lots of interesting people. I fucked a lot of backpacker chicks back then from the USA, Canada, UK, France and Switzerland as well as shagging a few P4P locals. As far as P4P, San Jose was the best scene, far better than anything in Mexico. We used to hit the clubs an hour before closing and arrange to meet the chicas later. I never paid for sex in San Jose on that first trip.

Anyway, we made a lot of friends and partied a lot. But even among our friends, there was this anti American bias that they would get into if the conversation drifted that way. I would ask some of these people, 'hey, I'm an American, you know this; why are you insulting my country. I am not insulting your country'. And it was like a deer in headlights. They just did not get it. Euros and Canadians are so used to reading and seeing anti American BS in their left wing elite media and universities that they just take it as a given. They are unaware of their bias; it is embedded so deep in their national political psyche. Americans are fed this non ending left wing anti American propaganda too. Hell, we even have an anti American president, Barack Hussein Obama, going around the world apologizing for our country. It is unbelievable. I started out as a lefty when I was young and just out of school, but as I traveled and saw more of the world close hand, I started appreciating the good old' USA and yes, what it is has done for the world I. E. Rescued millions from totalitarianism. I began to read Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman and learned Capitalism is not so bad after all. That maybe these supposed well meaning, left wing, political ideologies don't deliver the prosperity or fairness they purport to be all about. I would now describe myself an economic conservative and a social libertarian as well as a proud American.

A lot of people have written America off. They think we are in decline. Maybe so, but I wouldn't count us out just yet. We have a tremendous capacity to bounce back. In 4 or 5 years the USA may be oil independent. Think about that naysayers; no more imports from Saudi Arabia. But, if the USA were to fall, what then? The relatively intelligent people who naively believe the world will be a better place amaze me. Example #1: right now radical Islam is on the March. They have declared war on Western Civilization. The left will not acknowledge this fact, but how else do you explain Islam's bloody borders everywhere in the world. It is not just Palestine, but Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Libya, India, PI, Thailand, and it is growing in European cities. Arab spring, give me a break. This is a descent into radical totalitarianism. Some Euros are beginning to wake up to the war, but not the left anti-American Elites still running the European media and many governments there and not even the US State Department. Norway and Sweden are the most notable Islamic apologists. My point is when push comes to shove, it is going to be the USA that will be called on to defend Western Civilization with some help from our allies. This paragraph should get a lot of ridicule from the lefties.

Gaijin, we have gotten a long way off the subject of poontang in Asia. Let it go. You or I are not going to persuade anybody who does not see it our way. Time will convice many of the merit of our point of view. In the meantime, keep in mind that along with all the perks of being an American is the burden of putting up with the lefties, be they Americans themselves or western Europeans and Canadians. It goes with the territory. I would not have it any other way. Funny how America's closest friends are countries just freed from slavery or on the front lines with radical Islam. Liberal Western Europeans seem to want to forget WW2, the Marshall plan and the Cold War. They don't like to be reminded that without the USA, France for instance, would be slave state under the control of the Soviet Union. The USA is far from perfect. It has a lot of problems, but if not for the USA, I probably would not have been born, so yes, I am red, white and blue through and through and proud of it. I may prefer to live and monger in South Asia, but my home will always be the USA.I love America, I just don't like Americans like GJ. And I write things I don't actually believe to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off.

Monger on gentlemen.

[BionicMan]

Chantiks grammar and vocabulary is defiantly not that of an indonesian working girl, but he does have current info on wan chai. I doubt many regular ISGers believe it, but I am sure there are a few lurkers sending PMs.I might be a C cup escort and Chantiks can be a 6' bloke with moustache! Who knows. We all know the net hides and reveals. Those who lie, lie first to themselves. Honestly it is irrelevant whether she is indonesian or not (unless I have a absolute urge to get an indonesian and realiable escort, then I'd be tempted to book her for that). The POV she provides are, nevertheless, interesting and that is what counts (to me)

[BionicMan]

Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Estonia, Bosnia, Georgia, Kuwait, Southern Sudan, Darfur, Kurdistan, to name a few.You forgot Afghanistan, Iraq. Iran is next on the list to ring your doorbell.

[Member #4698]

you forgot afghanistan, iraq. iran is next on the list to ring your doorbell.yeah, i just want to see the us kick ass. come on bman, you know that is not what i am talking about.

the us invaded afghanistan because the taliban government was shielding and protecting al-qaeda, a terrorist organization that had just brought down the world trade center killing nearly 3000 people in new york city. its leader was developing, funding and authorizing the plan while living in afghanistan. so the us should not have invaded?

the first iraq war was totally justifiable. after fighting a terrible war with iran in which hundreds of thousands lost their lives and chemical weapons were used, a stalemate evolved and no side could claim victory. sadam then needed something to take the focus away from his dismal and cruel rule so he invaded kuwait on a pretext. without the us intervention the world would have done nothing to stop the kuwaiti invasion and subsequent [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of that country. the us did the right thing.

in order to stop the us from moving on bagdad and ending his rule, sadam signed a cease fire agreement with the us which he immediately broke by ruthlessly attacking the kurds in the north. he backed down on his kurd onslaught only after a no fly zone was imposed on iraq. from then on an uneasy truce followed throughout the rest of bush the elder and clinton's presidency.

i won't debate the merits of the decision to invade iraq by w. we know a lot more in hindsight than we knew at the start of the war. everybody thought there were chemical and biological weapons stockpiled. read the comments made by liberal democrat politicians at the time including clinton and pelosi. the world trade center had just been destroyed and in addition, saddam was actively trying to shoot down us warplanes that were enforcing the no fly zone in direct violation of the truce agreement he signed. so there were compelling reasons for removing him and the world is definitely better off without this guy. of course, considering the cost of the war in human terms, and the fact of president obama's political decision to remove the us troops against the advice of his entire military command including general petraeus, almost guarantees that iran will eventually dominate and control iraq; the merits of the war look dubious. so in hindsight, it does appear that the 2nd iraqi war was not a great decision and was poorly executed, but i will leave the final call to future historians.

now iran: where the fuck to begin? these guys are really dangerous, exponentially more dangerous than al-qaeda, iraq or north korea. they are a brutal fascist regime. i take very seriously what they say, so i believe: 1. they are building nuclear weapons and 2. under the right circumstances they will use those nuclear weapons. the only question is what does the west do about it. after wasting three years trying to convince the iranians that he, barack obama is a nice guy and means the regime no harm, the current administration is now ratcheting up the economic sanctions. israel is launching viral attacks on iran's nuclear facilities and assassinating iranian nuclear scientists. i don't think these two approaches will work in the long run. so either the world will have to live with a nuclear fascist state and the eventuality of a nuclear war or take some sort of military action. when i write 'the world', of course i mean the usa. bombing the nuclear sites will delay, not end iran's nuclear ambitions. removing the iranian regime is the only long term solution. that is why it was such a disappointment and failure when president obama did not aid and support the iranian demonstrators when they rose up and took to the streets in 2009. that should have been the iranian spring. subsequently they were brutally put down by the regime. so that is where we are with the iranians. most informed analysts put them at about 12 to 18 months away from having a nuclear weapon. tune in after the next american election to find out what happens next.
addendum: in the afghanistan, kuwait, and iraq war; the us received a lot of help from its allies. thanks guys. we did not act alone and we know who are friends are.

[The Tanuki]

People worldwide do indeed know that the US is a place that can help out. What everyone hates is the BS you have to put up with when some of those Americans get wound up with a beer or 2. Doing great things is awesome, but constantly harping that you've done great things gets old in a hurry. Even Teddy Roosevelt understood the value of speaking softly.

TT

[Member #4698]

People worldwide do indeed know that the US is a place that can help out. What everyone hates is the BS you have to put up with when some of those Americans get wound up with a beer or 2. Doing great things is awesome, but constantly harping that you've done great things gets old in a hurry. Even Teddy Roosevelt understood the value of speaking softly.

TTI agree with this and every country has its fair share of offensive stupid people, including America. God knows I have seen them on display. So now let's talk about something important like sexy Asian girls. I am arriving back in HKG in a little over a month. My trip is starting to get close and I am looking forward to it. I will arrive after a 19 hour flight around 8:30pm. My first stop after checking into my hotel and getting some local currency will be Neptune's II. It worked out real good last year.

[FreebieFan]

Who's hiding their passport? We Americans are rightfully proud of who we are and don't hide it from anybody. I do believe you must've been sauced up hallucinating if that's what you think you saw in the LINE of people at customs, dude. And we say 'dude', not 'mate'. A mate is your life's partner with whom you have sex and raise a family with. But as I said, we don't care what anybody thinks of us. Must suck to be where you're from, hmmm.Having spent the past 25 years in Asia, life is pretty damn good, matey.

Well you have truly well demonstrated to this board why this is a substantial amount of anti American feeling in the world.

The words "arrogant" and "ignorant" spring to mind along with a few others but I won't belabour (spelt with an o) the point here. Suffice to say I'd love to see you holding up your passport loud and proud in HKIA. Hopefully you wouldn't be able to understand the Cantonese comments. LOL.

[Luvpuss]

I agree with this and every country has its fair share of offensive stupid people, including America. God knows I have seen them on display. So now let's talk about something important like sexy Asian girls. I am arriving back in HKG in a little over a month. My trip is starting to get close and I am looking forward to it. I will arrive after a 19 hour flight around 8:30pm. My first stop after checking into my hotel and getting some local currency will be Neptune's II. It worked out real good last year.I am American and have traveled the world. I am convinced that Americans are the most naive, spoiled people on earth. A lot are stupid also.

[Boarer]

Having spent the past 25 years in Asia.

Suffice to say I'd love to see you holding up your passport loud and proud in HKIA. Hopefully you wouldn't be able to understand the Cantonese comments. LOL.Sorry FF. It is hard to insult people who actually start adopting those labels as a badge of courage or a form of endearment. Gweilo, laowai, bule, and gaijin are just some that come to this hung over mind right now. Call me a bule but pass me the girl and then the beer.

Chill, relax and enjoy the pussies. Ala Uncle Gobbers comment on the hats, I heard that, over Christmas, N3 was giving out cheap head bands with things sticking out. Not bad but not as classy as those sombreros (had a closet full of them).

Happy New Year and Peace on Earth.

[Chantik]

I have learnt two things.

1) If anyone reports negatively on American we are lefties.

2) Everyone loves pussy.

[AussieDoug]

People worldwide do indeed know that the US is a place that can help out. What everyone hates is the BS you have to put up with when some of those Americans get wound up with a beer or 2. Doing great things is awesome, but constantly harping that you've done great things gets old in a hurry. Even Teddy Roosevelt understood the value of speaking softly.

TTAsk them about the Alamo when a band of latino gardeners kicked their arses, or maybe the war with Canada to take over west of the great lakes that ended in defeat and some fishing rights on the east coast given as the reason for the skirmish. They are useful but they are also bits of bullies if you let them walk over your country.

[MumbaiMusk]

Guys, guys and guys.

This forum is to facilate making love not war. So please refrain.

Cheers and hope you are all having fun celebrating, welcoming the new year!

MM

[Member #4698]

Calling the 1500 strong Mexican Army regulars under the leadership of President General Antonio López de Santa Anna a "band of Latino gardeners" can be construed as a racist comment Doug. Take it easy. I know a lot of Mexicans who would take umbrage with your loose words. Furthermore, do you want to talk about Australia’s treatment of the Aborigines. This is what I am talking about. People who like to take cheap shots at America while not noticing the BS they hand out. Americans are easy cliché targets. Ever see a bunch of Aussies behaving badly on Kuta Beach, or a bus full of middle class German tourists disembark in Plaza de Armas in Cuzco, or a cruise ship full of French tourists invade a peaceful Windward Caribbean Island, or a typical Chinese bourgeois family on vacation with their fat, spoiled, male child. I could go on, but what is the point. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. This is getting boring and I've said my peace.