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Jacker777
04-25-12, 14:12
Another alternative is to invite your lady friend to go have a drink at the top of Panorama which has an enviable view. Since this is a restaurant / bar open to the public, she should have no problems getting up there.

Same with Totts at Excelsior.

Meet up with her for a drink and let her enjoy the view which will definitely make her more amenable to suggestions later on in the room.

Chantik's suggestion works well too, but I am reluctant to give up my room key.

Have fun!All this talk of GF hotel has got me wondering where I should stay.

I chose JJ in Lucky Centre, WC after considering its proximity to the action. I haven't checked out Panorama or Excelsior.

I was also looking for in-room massage action. Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted. My last 2 visits went without any major action.

Chantik
04-25-12, 15:01
Another alternative is to invite your lady friend to go have a drink at the top of Panorama which has an enviable view. Since this is a restaurant / bar open to the public, she should have no problems getting up there.

Same with Totts at Excelsior.

Meet up with her for a drink and let her enjoy the view which will definitely make her more amenable to suggestions later on in the room.

Chantik's suggestion works well too, but I am reluctant to give up my room key.

Have fun!Your suggestion doesn't always work for single ladies.

Lewis And Clark
04-25-12, 15:23
Another alternative is to invite your lady friend to go have a drink at the top of Panorama which has an enviable view. Since this is a restaurant / bar open to the public, she should have no problems getting up there.

Same with Totts at Excelsior.

Meet up with her for a drink and let her enjoy the view which will definitely make her more amenable to suggestions later on in the room.

Chantik's suggestion works well too, but I am reluctant to give up my room key.

Have fun!Panorama is a great place to take a date Ramn, you are right on the money here.

Lewis And Clark
04-25-12, 15:48
I'm sure Chantik will confirm the going rate for a DW is $500.

As regards my skills, yes, I have introduced the concept of paying me instead of the other way round on the basis they are going to have a good time, and it always guarantees a laugh (but sometimes not much more). I think you must have have overheard my lines of conversation with the girls to have mentioned that here in public! My cover is blown! (LOL) Jack, your tales here make me smile as I remember many similar exploits and adventures shared by myself and several crazy friends.

Remember, $500HKD is the MOST you should pay for a DH, they are usually much less and often free. This has been debated previously on this forum, suffice to say, advice on pricing from a provider must come with a certain amount of bias and self interest, especially when livelihood is at stake.

Some timely truths to remember when in Hong Kong.

a) Don't believe the hype. Ever.

b) Surprises are everywhere when it comes to DW in Hong Kong. Think outside the box.

c) Work on your 'game; ' grooming, presentation, intelligence and manners pay huge dividends in Hong Kong.

d) Be confident without being arrogant, Clever without being a smart-arse, humorous without putting others down. These attitudes are part of the psyche in Hong Kong; quiet confidence wins you kudos in the bar every time.

e) Hong Kong is always about oversupply. Don't get caught up in the 'shortage mentality,' and think you need to pay over the odds. There is huge power in smiling and walking away from ridiculous pricing quoted by those who think you don't know better. Other ladies in the bar are watching and will be impressed, they know all too well that supply in Hong Kong always outstrips demand and it's a buyers market. Agree to stupid pricing and everyone is laughing at you as you leave the bar. It's all over at that point.

Stay safe

Boarer
04-25-12, 16:00
Jack, your tales here make me smile as I remember many similar exploits and adventures shared by myself and several crazy friends.

Remember, $500HKD is the MOST you should pay for a DH, they are usually much less and often free. This has been debated previously on this forum, suffice to say, advice on pricing from a provider must come with a certain amount of bias and self interest, especially when livelihood is at stake.Enjoyed posts likewise. But heck, someone has to pay retail and support / make the market! LOL!

Europunter
04-25-12, 18:29
I clearly fucked up my description of my hotel dilemma in my last report. What I should have said is that the hotel I was staying in would have been a challenge for an outcall escort visit. The bellmen at this particular hotel challenged everyone coming into the ground floor entrance for their room card that allowed access to the lobby floor and beyond.

My description implies that GFs were not allowed upstairs- no. I should have described to suggest taht I just didn't want to head down to the lobby to find an escort that I've never met before. That was my issue. It seems as though many more hotels in China and now Hong Kong are switching to this access procedure.

Sorry for the trouble.

EP

Chantik
04-25-12, 20:06
EP.

Key access to lifts, nosy bellboys etc is not a hotel being non-girl friendly.

A non-girl friendly hotel would charge you an extra fee to bring the girl to your room.

After all it could be your best friend, brother, sister who can't visit your room without key access. It is higher security.

Chantik
04-25-12, 20:13
Guys, as a service provider, I need to say sorry for providing you with wrong information about pricing. I must have been quoting too high a price for D / H.

Even though on many occasions, I have advised to ONLY pay D/H 500 max.

Whose comprehension is failing ?

FreebieFan
04-26-12, 02:56
ep.

key access to lifts, nosy bellboys etc is not a hotel being non-girl friendly.

a non-girl friendly hotel would charge you an extra fee to bring the girl to your room.

after all it could be your best friend, brother, sister who can't visit your room without key access. it is higher security.this problem is easily solved. ask for 3 keys at when checking in. quite normal. you need one for the "power control" unit thats generally in most hotels.

you need one for yourself, and one thats "the spare" to be given to whoever you might want to come to your room.

of course as soon as she's come to your room and then gone, you go and say "keycard not working". that requires providing you with a new keycard, rendering the old ones obsolete.

the alternative of course is to meet the unknown escort in the lobby whereby you smile and greet at each other like old friends, and walk to elevator with that " don't bother me please mr bellman, i'm just so happy to be meeting my old friend again" look. that brooks no interference. a straight back, confident stride and eyes on the girl, muttering sweet nothings, works to limit the amount of interference from bellpeeps

Brown Rail
04-26-12, 05:55
Guys, as a service provider, I need to say sorry for providing you with wrong information about pricing. I must have been quoting too high a price for D / H.

Even though on many occasions, I have advised to ONLY pay D / H 500 max.It is a quandary what is the right amount to pay a DH. Is paying them a bad thing?

First is the issue of paying a normal girl for sex, and encouraging / motivating her to become a WG. If she has not asked for pay what is the proper and polite thing do to? Drinks, dinner, a good time would seem mostly to be sufficient. Maybe buy her a gift on route? Especially if you will see her again, you don't want to turn it into a working relationship.

If on the other hand you are passing through and this is a onetime thing, maybe it is sometimes appropriate. I would guess $500 is about right. Would it really make a difference to you if it were $400? $300?

Generally if I girl is looking to be paid, she will let you know. Else, why make it commercial?

JackTheLad2
04-26-12, 10:06
the alternative of course is to meet the unknown escort in the lobby whereby you smile and greet at each other like old friends, and walk to elevator with that " don't bother me please mr bellman, i'm just so happy to be meeting my old friend again" look. that brooks no interference. a straight back, confident stride and eyes on the girl, muttering sweet nothings, works to limit the amount of interference from bellpeepsunless, of course, she is wearing fish-net tights, a skimpy mini and a low cut top! (lol)

Boarer
04-26-12, 10:20
Unless, of course, she is wearing fish-net tights, a skimpy mini and a low cut top! (LOL)Don't laugh. It happens all the time around the world. Very hard to keep a straight face in the elevator. Bit through my lips a couple of times. LOL.

Worse if it is an offspring of someone you know and she is just on her way to a roof top club.

Lewis And Clark
04-26-12, 13:18
Guys, as a service provider, I need to say sorry for providing you with wrong information about pricing. I must have been quoting too high a price for D / H.

Even though on many occasions, I have advised to ONLY pay D / H 500 max.

Whose comprehension is failing?

No need to apologise, you're only human like the rest of us. As a provider, what do you advise as your ST and LT rate?

Chantik
04-26-12, 13:52
this problem is easily solved. ask for 3 keys at when checking in. quite normal. you need one for the "power control" unit thats generally in most hotels.

you need one for yourself, and one thats "the spare" to be given to whoever you might want to come to your room.

of course as soon as she's come to your room and then gone, you go and say "keycard not working". that requires providing you with a new keycard, rendering the old ones obsolete.

the alternative of course is to meet the unknown escort in the lobby whereby you smile and greet at each other like old friends, and walk to elevator with that " don't bother me please mr bellman, i'm just so happy to be meeting my old friend again" look. that brooks no interference. a straight back, confident stride and eyes on the girl, muttering sweet nothings, works to limit the amount of interference from bellpeepsvery accurate. can see that you have had a few girls visit you.

think guys should pay attention to the post.

Chantik
04-26-12, 13:55
Unless, of course, she is wearing fish-net tights, a skimpy mini and a low cut top! (LOL)Absolutely right. Have a girlfriend who guys don't want to visit their apartment because of her sexy wear.

It is an issue for guys who live in up-market apartment. And you find that security in serviced apartments security is usually higher than 5 star hotels.

Chantik
04-26-12, 14:01
It is a quandary what is the right amount to pay a DH. Is paying them a bad thing?

First is the issue of paying a normal girl for sex, and encouraging / motivating her to become a WG. If she has not asked for pay what is the proper and polite thing do to? Drinks, dinner, a good time would seem mostly to be sufficient. Maybe buy her a gift on route? Especially if you will see her again, you don't want to turn it into a working relationship.

If on the other hand you are passing through and this is a onetime thing, maybe it is sometimes appropriate. I would guess $500 is about right. Would it really make a difference to you if it were $400? $300?

Generally if I girl is looking to be paid, she will let you know. Else, why make it commercial?I have never said too make it commercial.

It is up to you whether you pay a D / H for sex. Many will not ask.

My only piece of advice is that they may think you will marry them. And will be angry if you go with other ladies.

Each guy knows his circumstances. Many of the guys in Wanchai on the weekend. Are married / girlfriends. So a cash payment is a better option.

The other thing I will say about D / H. Is that if you want to treat her as a normal girl. It is normal to buy her a drink and dinner.

Chantik
04-26-12, 14:04
No need to apologise, you're only human like the rest of us. As a provider, what do you advise as your ST and LT rate?I am not a D / H who seeks pocket money. Its like comparing apples with oranges.

I only provide information on this website like other posters.

WildHawk
04-26-12, 15:00
I am not a D / H who seeks pocket money. Its like comparing apples with oranges.

I only provide information on this website like other posters.My previous comments have inspired guidance that you never pay the DH more than $500HK. I had long figured that out. And Chantik is absolutely correct about comparisons.

But I think it bears saying that newbies visiting New Makati after 10 pm will assume the joint is full of hottie domestic helpers, when in fact most of them are WGs.

In the earlier hours you will see girls who are generally less attractive, but no less fun, than the regulars who are pros.

Some are indeed part-time helpers or just do odd jobs, but quite a few ladies are SE Asian girls on the hooker circuit. Fly in, play the visas game to extend it, whatever. I met a Chinese woman at NM last night, early 30s, who would not dare do what does in Hong Kong in Beijing, where she teaches elementary school. I did not discuss pricing, but suffice it to say that it would not be happening for 500. Ditto for the 24-year-old Jakarta girl.

All begs the question of what makes a DH and not. Indeed, many of the New Makati crowd will drift to other venues, like Neptune II and Escape, where even the most hardened of working girls will laugh at the suggestion of 500. The girls know the going rate. Needless to say, I set a maximum of 1500, generally get it for 800 to 1000 LT. And laugh when I am quoted 2K from one of the girls at Escape. I have been fortunate enough to get off with sessions where cash was not exchanged, but nothing is ever really "free." Particularly when you end up getting stalked by a Filipina.

Lewis And Clark
04-26-12, 15:18
I am not a D / H who seeks pocket money. Its like comparing apples with oranges.

I only provide information on this website like other posters.Not for a moment assuming you are a DH, or even comparing you to one. None of us have any doubt that you are a provider. I asked you as a provider, what your ST and LT rates are. Simple question I thought.

Chantik
04-26-12, 17:51
It is not relevant to the discussion.

If guys are interested they send me a PM.

Bit like if I was interested in knowing more about you. I would send you a PM.

Some things are private and some are public.

Don't forget the birthday party at Makati on the 17th.

Chantik
04-26-12, 17:54
Nighthawk.

An accurate post.

Most of the Makati ladies got to Nep 2 to continue the free drinks. Girls pay $20 for a standard drink in Escape.

Many of the INdo Escape girls. Only go to Escape. You could call them more professional.

Lewis And Clark
04-26-12, 18:36
It is not relevant to the discussion.

If guys are interested they send me a PM.

Bit like if I was interested in knowing more about you. I would send you a PM.

Some things are private and some are public.

Don't forget the birthday party at Makati on the 17th.Cool, see you there.

FreebieFan
04-27-12, 05:47
Very accurate. Can see that you have had a few girls visit you.

Think guys should pay attention to the post.A "few". Well yes, a few each trip, each country LOL. The numbers soon rack up hahah.

Chantik
04-29-12, 14:27
Quick trip to Wanchai late Sunday afternoon.

- Less than 30 people in Insiders. Not like the Laguna days when there were at least 300 people. Hope business gets better.

- Escape could be good for the guys. Over a hundred people. Seemed to be 10 girls for every guy.

- Neptune 3. Crowded as usual. Again not many guys.

Noticed more younger guys in the bars.

Think there were some cute girls.

Magical1
04-30-12, 12:15
I have been to the Dragon and the service is always good. Anna is new there and is from the Phillipines. The Dragon is a good place to have a drink and the girls are quick to give you a taste of their oral skills. Anna is 18 and has a very nicely defined body. Her skills have come a long way this month.

Johnny Rocket
04-30-12, 21:32
Did you forget about J Forest. It fills in the Laguna gap.

Carnegies. Be careful. Many 16/17year old HK girls (from private schools) who want a Gwailo for a good time. Sometimes Police have been involved.You are saying it's a police operation? But 16 is the age of consent in HK.

I am not suggesting to go pick them up, as it is against the rules of this board. I am just saying what could the police do to you if the girl is of age?

Why Carnegie's? When are these girls there? I have never seen this, though I must admit I am rarely in Wan Chai and when I am I am normally just passing through on a run.

Chantik
04-30-12, 21:52
you are saying it's a police operation? but 16 is the age of consent in hk.

i am not suggesting to go pick them up, as it is against the rules of this board. i am just saying what could the police do to you if the girl is of age?

why carnegie's? when are these girls there? i have never seen this, though i must admit i am rarely in wan chai and when i am i am normally just passing through on a run.couple of things.

crowd at carnegies on tues / wed / sat has many young people. they often ill at the front of carnegies.

girls have regretted their action and have called [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). police contacted. of course eventually all is clear.

Chantik
04-30-12, 21:55
Dropped into Nep 2 early hours of the morning.

Good holiday crowd and lots of guys. Girls will be happy.

Lots of Filipina's. Not so many Indo's.

And the older Thai lady who wears leopard skin about two sizes too small for her breasts was present.

She looks fantastic for her age.

And is popular with punters.

BionicMan
05-01-12, 06:35
I have been to the Dragon and the service is always good. Anna is new there and is from the Phillipines. The Dragon is a good place to have a drink and the girls are quick to give you a taste of their oral skills. Anna is 18 and has a very nicely defined body. Her skills have come a long way this month.Tell us Anna, how much do you charge? Oh, sorry, you are not Anna. Maybe just her agent, sorry.

BionicMan
05-01-12, 06:42
You are saying it's a police operation? But 16 is the age of consent in HK. I am not suggesting to go pick them up, as it is against the rules of this board. I am just saying what could the police do to you if the girl is of age?Age of consent does not mean a 30yo man can have sex with a 16yo girl. One should also have a look at the law of his own country to determine the broadness of his action. If, for the sake of argument, a country allows sex between a 15yo girl and an old wig of 60o my, but HIS country doesn't do that and requires the partners to be at least 25, the guy will be in serious trouble. Legal age is what counts, not age of consent (that might allow a degree of sex between two guys of the same age group, ie boy and girl both 16-17).

Hpwbot
05-01-12, 11:48
Hi All, just wanted to say great reports in this hk thread. Lots and lots of vital information on where to go and what the scene is like in Hong Kong.

I will be going to HK for a week and would definitely be making some trips to the New Makati and Neptunes II after work. I am a young ABC and have read post about men of Asian appearance not being allowed into these clubs or being asked to pay an entrance fee. Is this for real? How much are we talking about? Would it be better for me to try and walk in casually like I know the place?

Do most men of Asian appearance get discriminated against in these places? And most importantly, will the ladies ignore me in these types of places if I am not gweilo?

Thanks for any help you can provide and happy punting to all!

HP

JackTheLad2
05-01-12, 15:03
Carnegies. Be careful. Many 16/17year old HK girls (from private schools) who want a Gwailo for a good time.My advice to anyone is to err on the side of safety. There is, after all, plenty available.

I must confess even in the "pick-up" bars, I like to make sure that my WG / DW is well over the minimum age. Most look in their late teens to me anyway and it won't be the first time I have asked (nicely of course) to see identity just to check. The girls think it great fun when you suggest they might just be about 18. Always worth a couple of points!

I prefer my age group to be 24/32 to be safe.

Chantik
05-01-12, 15:48
My advice to anyone is to err on the side of safety. There is, after all, plenty available.

I must confess even in the "pick-up" bars, I like to make sure that my WG / DW is well over the minimum age. Most look in their late teens to me anyway and it won't be the first time I have asked (nicely of course) to see identity just to check. The girls think it great fun when you suggest they might just be about 18. Always worth a couple of points!

I prefer my age group to be 24/32 to be safe.What you say is so true.

That's why I brought up the Carnegie's example. And it is not a Police Operation.

Been a few guys who got into trouble for this reason. And then must face their wives. Ouch!

Brown Rail
05-02-12, 09:39
I am a young ABC and have read post about men of Asian appearance not being allowed into these clubs or being asked to pay an entrance fee.

HPHey Hpwbo. I think the charge is mostly for keeping out guys who look like trouble. I have seen HK$2-300 posted, even saw $500 recently at New Makati. But don't worry; these include a free drink.

It seems that management is mostly using the cover to keep out South Asians, and blacks, oh, and the US Navy. In fact it would appear that they aren't trying to keep out the sailors, because they happily pay. In fact there are lots who come in. It is just that if sailors will pay, so why not charge what the market will bear?

Inside New Makati and Neptune II there are many local Chinese and Filipinos, and they did not pay. So it is a matter of looking like you belong. If you are not sure, hang around out front till you see a group of locals heading in, then say hi and head up, or down as the case may be, with them.

As for the ladies, they don't seem to discriminate, except perhaps South Asians and Africans, and even for them no problem if they are hunks. In fact, some girls prefer Chinese men and pretty much like Americans of any color.

If you are a big good looking guy, of any color, you can get away with most anything; just a bit of attitude and $500-1, 000 will get Cyclops fucked. But it does amaze me to see how many regular guys come out without taking a bath, smelling like bum. Then they wonder why the girls move away. Simply be clean, dress neatly, don't get sloppy drunk. Then a big smile and sense of humor will go far.

And if you want someone to take you in the first time, drop me a private message. If I am in town I would be happy to meet for a drink.

Brown Rail
05-02-12, 09:52
The other thing I will say about D / H. Is that if you want to treat her as a normal girl. It is normal to buy her a drink and dinner.Sweetie, is that you?

Chantik
05-02-12, 21:09
Hi All, just wanted to say great reports in this hk thread. Lots and lots of vital information on where to go and what the scene is like in Hong Kong.

I will be going to HK for a week and would definitely be making some trips to the New Makati and Neptunes II after work. I am a young ABC and have read post about men of Asian appearance not being allowed into these clubs or being asked to pay an entrance fee. Is this for real? How much are we talking about? Would it be better for me to try and walk in casually like I know the place?

Do most men of Asian appearance get discriminated against in these places? And most importantly, will the ladies ignore me in these types of places if I am not gweilo?

Thanks for any help you can provide and happy punting to all!

HPYou will probably have to pay an entrance fee.

You should do OK with the girls. Although some may think you are undercover police.

Main thing is that you are polite and treat the girls well.

You will find that Makati is less professional (it still is) and has more of a party feel.

Good Luck.

Emzchi
05-03-12, 00:19
Dear all of you, at the end of this month. 3 italian big bosses of my company are coming for some days in HK.

I think I'll need to provide them some enterteinment after dinner and I should provide them good-top class service. What would you suggest me?

I'm thinking about some very good saunas or clubs with nice-working girls.

Thanks

Lewis And Clark
05-03-12, 03:22
Hi All, just wanted to say great reports in this hk thread. Lots and lots of vital information on where to go and what the scene is like in Hong Kong.

I will be going to HK for a week and would definitely be making some trips to the New Makati and Neptunes II after work. I am a young ABC and have read post about men of Asian appearance not being allowed into these clubs or being asked to pay an entrance fee. Is this for real? How much are we talking about? Would it be better for me to try and walk in casually like I know the place?

Do most men of Asian appearance get discriminated against in these places? And most importantly, will the ladies ignore me in these types of places if I am not gweilo?

Thanks for any help you can provide and happy punting to all!

HPDear Hpwbot.

Brown Rail is right on the money with his recent posting. As many of us have stated before, its all about your attitude and style. Run your 'game' when you go out, take your man card with you and hold your head proud. Too many guys out there acting like beggars waiting for scraps at the table instead of understanding the workings of the crazy carnival that is Wanchai. Remember it's a buyers market and you are in charge. Always lots of desperate young ladies out there happy to make a deal with a decent bloke. Happy trails and let us know how you get on.

Switched
05-03-12, 08:28
Hi All,

Finally managed the chance to check out the Wanchai scene last weekend.

I was eager to get laid on the first night. Found New Makaki first, there were women all over me and I smelt that something was not right. What I later found out is that I had walked into a go go bar next door and my weary eyes had misread the sign. Still took a girl back to my room, but it was way more expensive than it should have been and the experience could have been better.

Headed out on Saturday night, was out from 9pm. Went to Forest, NM, Neptunes II + III, found it really heard finding anyone decent, and the later it got the harder it was to find decent girls. The ones I spoke to were all good girls, however, even finding girls available to talk to was much harder than I expected. Most of the girls hung around in packs, and I've always had trouble trying to separate one girl from a pack of friends so usually steer clear of them. Sadly, my Saturday was fruitless.

Sunday I was determined not to make the same mistake. Started at the real New Makaki. Girls well outnumbered men. Have to say, the overall quality was not as high as I was hoping for, but there were some diamonds in the rough. Managed to take a nice one out and gave her the standard $500 afterwards. Wish I was there for another weekend and able to correct some of my earlier mistakes, but that is life.

BionicMan
05-03-12, 16:37
Dear all of you, at the end of this month. 3 italian big bosses of my company are coming for some days in HK. I think I'll need to provide them some enterteinment after dinner and I should provide them good-top class service. What would you suggest me? I'm thinking about some very good saunas or clubs with nice-working girls. ThanksTake them first to Harrys bar so they can get the bearing and the feelings of what it is all about for them, unless you know them very well.

Maybe they can have a take away there for the first night, tell them not to fall in love with the GF of the night as the following night there are other GF waiting for them.

They will not be ready to the meat markets of Wanchai, unless they already have knowledge and are proved mongerers (but they will not tell you)

Then you can take them to Joe Banana and see how they feel and behave, react. If they are ready for the jump into nearby Neptune etc.

I would also experiment a trip to Macau if time and logistic allows. Bring them to a top sauna as Rio but explain well that the experience of a sauna there is not a "wam bam thank you ma'm": it is a many hours experience to be tasted like a gourmet dinner, with aperitive (japanese shower or body scrub) , appetizer (thigh massage / shangai massage) , main course (the real showtime and the model chocie for an hour soapie course) , followed by dessert (foot massage, anotehr thigh massage to get them ready for another round of soap course)

Do well explain the technicalities or they do it all in an hour and ready to go.

Do not thrown them into the asian action (141, etc) as it is going to be raw, wild and too much to absorb.

The culture difference is huge. Only mongerers can handle it.

I have seen this many times around the world:

Sao Paulo: the overspend in Cafè photo and reject the idea of having the same service in a clinica or with an indipendet GdP picked up from Guia or ForumSD.

Bangkok: they overspend with a top stunner from a go-go where they pay a very LT rate for a very ST action.

Singapore: they go to Hyatt's Brix to pick up the same girl they can find at OT at nearly half price.

Look here how many people stsill think that booking an escort through an agency is the best option.

Asia is a candy store experience for non experienced and trained or aware europeans.

Prices are anyhow very cheap even when they overpay, given the european rates.

Please report back as we want to read how it went, it will be good for others too

Royalpardesi2001
05-03-12, 20:01
There is a public holiday on 2nd of July Monday, I am heading to The Philipines on 29th June and coming back to Hong Kong on 3rd Jul. Any fello mongers want to join me for the ultimate bar hopping scene of Angeles City, please PM me it would be a great fun together.

Brown Rail
05-04-12, 12:17
Hi All,

I was eager to get laid on the first night. Found New Makaki first, there were women all over me and I smelt that something was not right. What I later found out is that I had walked into a go go bar next door and my weary eyes had misread the sign. Still took a girl back to my room, but it was way more expensive than it should have been and the experience could have been better.I laughed so hard. How many times have the girls in that downstairs bars tried to misdirect you. In fact, that is probably their business model.

How much did that wrong turn cost you?

Brown Rail
05-04-12, 12:33
Dear Hpwbot.

Its all about your attitude and style. Run your 'game' when you go out, take your man card with you and hold your head proud. Too many guys out there acting like beggars waiting for scraps at the table instead of understanding the workings of the crazy carnival that is Wanchai. .Hey L&C, let me return the compliment. I wish I had said it like that.

Johnny Rocket
05-04-12, 17:00
What you say is so true.

That's why I brought up the Carnegie's example. And it is not a Police Operation.

Been a few guys who got into trouble for this reason. And then must face their wives. Ouch!I see what you mean but in my opinion a guy who picks up these girls (or any punter with any girl) should not give out his real name or a phone number from which his identity can be ascertained.

Johnny Rocket
05-04-12, 17:03
Age of consent does not mean a 30yo man can have sex with a 16yo girl. One should also have a look at the law of his own country to determine the broadness of his action. If, for the sake of argument, a country allows sex between a 15yo girl and an old wig of 60o my, but HIS country doesn't do that and requires the partners to be at least 25, the guy will be in serious trouble. Legal age is what counts, not age of consent (that might allow a degree of sex between two guys of the same age group, ie boy and girl both 16-17).In HK 16 means 16 and they can have sex with any age.

In my land of origin it is 15 and ditto.

I do not intend to do this, but I don't think it is as dangerous as some of you seem to believe.

BionicMan
05-04-12, 17:16
in hk 16 means 16 and they can have sex with any age.in my land of origin it is 15 and ditto.i do not intend to do this, but i don't think it is as dangerous as some of you seem to believe.each one is entitled to his own opinion and take his own risk (and by saying i do not mean "you" are going to do it or intend to, but "in case someone feels that the law is on his side" and does it, well i can only say "good luck". he might non be able tho' to report back as he will be entitled to only one phone call, and better he does that to his lawyer.

we definetely have a different opinion and for me age of consent 16 means a 15 or 17 yo gilr can have non p4p sex with a guy of his age group without it being rated [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

a man of (lets say) 25 or 30 or more having sex with a consenting girl of 16yo will be charged with [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), no matter what she says. period.

check around, please.


while the phrase age of consent typically does not appear in legal statutes,[1] when used in relation to sexual activity, the age of consent is the minimum age at which a person is considered to be legally competent to consent to sexual acts. the european union calls it the legal age for sexual activities. it should not be confused with the age of majority, age of criminal responsibility, the marriageable age, the voting age, the drinking age, driving age, or other purposes. laws vary widely, and while most polities set the age of consent in the range 14 to 18, with the average age being 16,[2] outliers with ages of consent as low as 12 and as high as 20 exist.http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

http://www.ageofconsent.us/

http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

Chantik
05-04-12, 19:37
Bionic Man.

Good post.

This group of students from a school in the New Territories targetted married Caucasian men.

And we are talking men over the age of 35.

They weren't interested in young men.

99% of the time you are fine. But there is always a chance.

Lewis And Clark
05-04-12, 20:17
Hi All,

Finally managed the chance to check out the Wanchai scene last weekend.

I was eager to get laid on the first night. Found New Makaki first, there were women all over me and I smelt that something was not right. What I later found out is that I had walked into a go go bar next door and my weary eyes had misread the sign. Still took a girl back to my room, but it was way more expensive than it should have been and the experience could have been better.Consider it a lesson, an experience to reflect on. Sounds like lots of grabbing and mauling went on! Did you get stung for heaps of ladies drinks?

Member #4698
05-04-12, 21:27
Finally managed the chance to check out the Wanchai scene last weekend. I was eager to get laid on the first night. Found New Makaki first, there were women all over me and I smelt that something was not right. What I later found out is that I had walked into a go go bar next door and my weary eyes had misread the sign. Still took a girl back to my room, but it was way more expensive than it should have been and the experience could have been better.

Headed out on Saturday night, was out from 9pm. Went to Forest, NM, Neptunes II + III, found it really heard finding anyone decent, Hi Switched, I find your report very interesting. Regarding the bar you mistakenly went into and the girl you bar fined; How would you rate the girl as far as looks and performance goes. And how much did you spend on her? Also, did the bar clip you on expensive drinks or try to pad your tab?

I have walked past these bars many times and I have seen some real stunners hanging out by the front door. I never tried any of these bars because 1. The word is they are rip off joints and 2. They were always empty of customers when I took a look inside. Two very bad signs not to go further. I always wondered though, about the hot girls standing outside and inviting me in. Some of them are 7* to 8*

As you noted it is getting harder and harder to find genuinely good looking girls in the usual places like Neptune's, Forest and Escape. Last time I was in town: After hitting 3 bars and coming up empty, I found a very attractive Thai girl in Escape that I had no 2nd doubts about, that I knew from the first look she was beautiful. So I bar fined her. The rest of the girls I saw were iffy at best. Another night I saw what appeared to be a very sexy looking Indonesian girl in New Makati. She smiled at me and we talked a little. She seemed ok, but even up close, it was too dark to be sure, so I passed.

On Sunday afternoon, I met a very sweet Indonesian DH at Forest. We dirty danced for a couple of hours so I took her back to my hotel room. She was a nice girl and the sex was good, but I would not call her a stunner or anything close to it. I am trying to be kind here. She was however, the 2nd best looking girl in the bar. Which tells me a hell of a lot about the quality of DH's. The best looking girl in the bar was definitely cute 7* but she was taken by this guy who was bigger than I am. LOL. The bar was packed with DH's that Sunday, but the quality was an issue.

As a result of this lack of quality in Wanchai, I moved on. Another night I ran into a real pretty Chinese FL on Mody (500hk ST) and on my last night in town, I splurged with a Korean 141 reservation Hottie. So all in all, I did pretty good in HKG scoring a very pretty Thai girl, a sweet girl next door type DH, A sexy PRC girl, and a hot Korean, but I had to look for it.

Next time I am in HKG, I think I am going to stay in East TST and make forays to Wanchai instead of the other way around. But getting back to your experience, Switched, tell us about the quality of the wrong bar girl you took home.

Switched
05-05-12, 04:14
Consider it a lesson, an experience to reflect on. Sounds like lots of grabbing and mauling went on! Did you get stung for heaps of ladies drinks?
I laughed so hard. How many times have the girls in that downstairs bars tried to misdirect you. In fact, that is probably their business model.

How much did that wrong turn cost you?The quality of the girls there were quite high. Mostly Filo's, but I ended up with a Thai lady. Ended up paying $1200 for 2 hours after a lot of negotiation, and probably another $200 or $300 or so in drinks. There were another couple of westerners in the clup, all had 2-3 girls around them. Occasionally a girl would pole dance but would not strip.

The mamasan was very pushy on the drinks side and the girls mostly drank shots, but when the mamasan went away, one of the girls asked not to be bought any more drinks and to give her some money instead.

The lady was in her early 30's at a guess and was pretty good when she made it to my hotel nearby, however, it was not the HK experience I was hoping for and personally had more fun with the helpers on Sunday. If I had realised my mistake earlier, I would have tried my fortunes elsewhere. The worst thing was the pushiness of the mamasan inside the club. I never said no to anything that I did not want to, however, I can see how guys get trapped in there who are a little more vulnerable than myself.

Switched
05-05-12, 04:31
As you noted it is getting harder and harder to find genuinely good looking girls in the usual places like Neptune's, Forest and Escape. Last time I was in town: After hitting 3 bars and coming up empty, I found a very attractive Thai girl in Escape that I had no 2nd doubts about, that I knew from the first look she was beautiful. So I bar fined her. The rest of the girls I saw were iffy at best. Another night I saw what appeared to be a very sexy looking Indonesian girl in New Makati. She smiled at me and we talked a little. She seemed ok, but even up close, it was too dark to be sure, so I passed.

On Sunday afternoon, I met a very sweet Indonesian DH at Forest. We dirty danced for a couple of hours so I took her back to my hotel room. She was a nice girl and the sex was good, but I would not call her a stunner or anything close to it. I am trying to be kind here. She was however, the 2nd best looking girl in the bar. Which tells me a hell of a lot about the quality of DH's. The best looking girl in the bar was definitely cute 7* but she was taken by this guy who was bigger than I am. LOL. The bar was packed with DH's that Sunday, but the quality was an issue.

As a result of this lack of quality in Wanchai, I moved on. Another night I ran into a real pretty Chinese FL on Mody (500hk ST) and on my last night in town, I splurged with a Korean 141 reservation Hottie. So all in all, I did pretty good in HKG scoring a very pretty Thai girl, a sweet girl next door type DH, A sexy PRC girl, and a hot Korean, but I had to look for it.

Next time I am in HKG, I think I am going to stay in East TST and make forays to Wanchai instead of the other way around. But getting back to your experience, Switched, tell us about the quality of the wrong bar girl you took home.The Saturday night was far more difficult than I was expecting. I started talking to some helpers for 10 mins early in the night before they left for curfew, then had trouble speaking to anyone else after that, and as the night went on, girls were fewer and further apart.

I didn't need to leave the real NM on Sunday. The place had about 90% females, but only 5-10% interested me. I saw one stunner sitting alone bopping her head to the music, did some dirty dancing (she was a great dancer) , offered her a drink, she refused. Sat talking to her for a bit regardless and she was complaining about how her friend kept going with guys for money and leaving her to dance on her own. After another 5 or so minutes it became obvious that she was not going to leave the club so I hunted for greener pastures. She was a very nice girl and if my HK stay was months I would have certainly put some effort in, but considering that I was on holidays, thought it best to leave her for a better guy.

Had several girls try to dance with me that did not interest me too much and I put my mind to the 5-10. Found one who was enthusiastic enough. 8pm curfew and this one was overly keen. She had left her friends to dance and I was able to seal the deal in about 20 minutes. Walked to my hotel and had a productive couple of hors with her. She was keen as mustard to do everything that was requested and was a bit emotional when I took out a rubber, suprised at how thoughtful I was. She was happy with the $500 at the end and wanted to meet me this weekend. If only I could have stayed longer.

I think what I learnt most about Wanchai is that timing is everything. I don't think I'd try so hard at the bars outside of 3pm-6pm on a weekend. I definitely want a return visit, but dominos will have to fall first.

WildHawk
05-05-12, 05:28
Hi Switched, I find your report very interesting.

As you noted it is getting harder and harder to find genuinely good looking girls in the usual places like Neptune's, Forest and Escape.

As a result of this lack of quality in Wanchai, I moved on.I totally agree, Mr. Bumpo, about the slipping quality of the Wan Chai scene and probably ought to follow your example and try some other avenues of fun.

But, naturally, old habits die hard. Last night it was raining buckets and when the skies cleared briefly I headed over to the district. About 11 pm Escape had perhaps five girls to 50 men or so. Circled the bar, paid my respects to the doormen and headed out. Amazonia was also a sausage-fest, Neptune II better odds but still the Star Wars Cantina crew of WGs. I would return later for an hour or two to Nep II, where I saw a DH semipro, a woman I had spent a day in Stanley with last year. Though she is nice Filipina with a body that belies her age of about 40 (eight kids back home) and she gives a fabulous CIM BJ I don't want her to become clingy (and she knows the ropes so that wouldn't be likely to happen.

Headed over to New Makati from there. At 11:30ish the odds were in the girls' favor, though it would even out by around 12:30 and then work to the men's side by 1ish.

My impression still holds that the girls there are a little more fun-loving than some of the other joints. Escape, for me, is just total crap. There are a few stunning girls, yes, but they had been taken, and by younger and fairly fit fellows. I am doubtful that that means they get a discount. And the WGs I did encounter seemed to have a bit of an attitude. Still, I really didn't make any attempt to get my game on, so that may play into things to be fair.

And on the subject of Neptune II, has anybody else noticed the increasingly shitty attitude of the bar staff? They really seem to have contempt for the customers. And with the smoking, I'm going to migrate away from the place. It tends to get the leftovers from the other bars, anyway. And many of the regular WGs there have absolutely no sense of humor, even discounting for the fact that English is not their primary language. Did almost pull a very attractive 28 year old Thai who asked HK $1K for three hours. It was about friggin' 5 in the morning, so I just decided to head home alone. I told her at that time of day that perhaps a LT arrangement (at the $1K) would have been a better deal, but she wasn't going to move. Made things all the easier.

Future posts will include riveting details of sexual romps, I promise.

Johnny Rocket
05-05-12, 06:56
each one is entitled to his own opinion and take his own risk (and by saying i do not mean "you" are going to do it or intend to, but "in case someone feels that the law is on his side" and does it, well i can only say "good luck". he might non be able tho' to report back as he will be entitled to only one phone call, and better he does that to his lawyer.

we definetely have a different opinion and for me age of consent 16 means a 15 or 17 yo gilr can have non p4p sex with a guy of his age group without it being rated [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

a man of (lets say) 25 or 30 or more having sex with a consenting girl of 16yo will be charged with [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), no matter what she says. period.

check around, please.

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

http://www.ageofconsent.us/

http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htmall understood. but i happen to be a solicitor and i've read the hk law and feel confident that my interpretation is correct with regard to hk. i am not saying i would do this or encourage anyone else but i think it is an interesting conversation to have from a theoretical perspective. there's so much pussy available i'm not sure why anyone would do this. 141 girls often have school uniforms for cosplay which is a much safer way to get this particular thrill if you're into it.

i was actually arrested once in hk, i won't say for what but it was completely unrelated to sex. once the police figured out that i knew the score and would not back down in fear but intended to fight and had the letter of the law on my side they dropped the matter and nothing ever happened.

BionicMan
05-05-12, 07:19
all understood. but i happen to be a solicitor and i've read the hk law and feel confident that my interpretation is correct with regard to hk. i am not saying i would do this or encourage anyone else but i think it is an interesting conversation to have from a theoretical perspective. there's so much pussy available i'm not sure why anyone would do this. 141 girls often have school uniforms for cosplay which is a much safer way to get this particular thrill if you're into it.

i was actually arrested once in hk, i won't say for what but it was completely unrelated to sex. once the police figured out that i knew the score and would not back down in fear but intended to fight and had the letter of the law on my side they dropped the matter and nothing ever happened.fully agreeing on the fact we are debating theory and i also agree there is so much pussy around there is no need of venturing to risky path. but our theory might become reality for others as there is people indulging on low age (at the edge of being ****) so i feel correct and appropriate information has to be given. internet generates a lot of urban legends and we do not have to add our own based on feelings. being yourself in the legal world you know well laws can be interpreted and that sometime depends on the judge himself.

i friendly stand still on my opinion, not forgetting that lots of mongerers are not citizens of the mongering country (say, fir argument, allowing sex between s 16yo girl and a 50yo wig) , but of countries with more restricted laws. you might survive the law of teensexyland but when back home in restrictedsexland the authorities might be if a different opinion and keep you in custody till the trial starts. this us something a lot of mongerers tends to underestimate.

having said that, a girl well above legal age is far more preferable, performance being the first reason.

Chantik
05-05-12, 08:43
The quality of the girls there were quite high. Mostly Filo's, but I ended up with a Thai lady. Ended up paying $1200 for 2 hours after a lot of negotiation, and probably another $200 or $300 or so in drinks. There were another couple of westerners in the clup, all had 2-3 girls around them. Occasionally a girl would pole dance but would not strip.

The mamasan was very pushy on the drinks side and the girls mostly drank shots, but when the mamasan went away, one of the girls asked not to be bought any more drinks and to give her some money instead.

The lady was in her early 30's at a guess and was pretty good when she made it to my hotel nearby, however, it was not the HK experience I was hoping for and personally had more fun with the helpers on Sunday. If I had realised my mistake earlier, I would have tried my fortunes elsewhere. The worst thing was the pushiness of the mamasan inside the club. I never said no to anything that I did not want to, however, I can see how guys get trapped in there who are a little more vulnerable than myself.1200 for 2hrs. Very cheap.

Usual price in the Go Go's is about 2000.

Chantik
05-05-12, 08:51
I am amused at the discussion about Stunners.

Not many stunners male or female in the world. And doubt few work in the sex industry.

Of course one guy's stunner, is not the next guy's stunner.

Switched
05-05-12, 11:42
1200 for 2hrs. Very cheap.

Usual price in the Go Go's is about 2000.The first price quoted was closer to that mark, and about $3500 for an overnight, but I managed to bargain them down.

I think it helped that I had bought them some drinks.

Switched
05-05-12, 11:49
In HK 16 means 16 and they can have sex with any age.

In my land of origin it is 15 and ditto.

I do not intend to do this, but I don't think it is as dangerous as some of you seem to believe.This will be my first and last post on this topic.

I slept with a 16yo once. Back then, I was 18. Even then, I regretted it later and lost a friend because of it.

Whether this is legal or not can be a discussion for the morally bankrupt. If you cannot find a girl in her 20's, particularly in HK you are doing something wrong. At least give the girl a couple of years so that she is fully aware of what she is doing and happy to be doing it.

WildHawk
05-05-12, 12:00
As has been pointed out in an earlier post, a few streetwalkers can be found soliciting behind the market stalls, on the sidewalk (typically the left side when walking north). Some seem game to entertaining gweilo. Today (Saturday) strolled by a girl with glasses, nice clean uni look. She kind of looked at me and raised her eyebrows in the universal "hey sailor" look, but did a little double-take when she realized I was not Asian. I walked to the end of the block, mulling the possibility, figured what the hell and turned around. Within about five minutes she had been joined by two others, one particularly cute, with bangs and a tight-fitting blue dress. Very nice. I discreetly said hello to which the girl shook her head no. Ouch. One of those Lisboa racetrack moments (though I have had success at that venue). But always deflating when a streetwalker turns you down!

Ramn HK
05-05-12, 12:02
You must be very charming. Punters in the local forums quote paying 2K for one hour and between 4-5K for overnight. These places generally have a sign quoting prices that's hidden behind some curtain. That way if you challenge the bill, they will show you the sign.


The quality of the girls there were quite high. Mostly Filo's, but I ended up with a Thai lady. Ended up paying $1200 for 2 hours after a lot of negotiation, and probably another $200 or $300 or so in drinks. There were another couple of westerners in the clup, all had 2-3 girls around them. Occasionally a girl would pole dance but would not strip.

Switched
05-05-12, 12:26
You must be very charming. Punters in the local forums quote paying 2K for one hour and between 4-5K for overnight. These places generally have a sign quoting prices that's hidden behind some curtain. That way if you challenge the bill, they will show you the sign.I can't speak for other places, but this place had no set price list (or at least not one that I was shown) , and if they did, I would have left dry.

The mamasan had a pen and notepad and was writing figures on it. Initially, she wanted me to take 2 home, but I told her straight away that was not my interest. I was talking to 2 girls, but one of them interested me far more than the other.

This mamasan was very open to bargaining. Maybe it was a slow night (3 guys and about 15 women walking around) , Maybe it was because I was buying drinks. Maybe it was because I was lying through my teeth when I told her that I had been to HKG many times before and was well aware of the standard bar rates (thank you ISG). Either way, I can assure you that the one next door to NM was happy to haggle, although she sent the girls away when we were talking price.

Ramn HK
05-05-12, 12:54
I totally agree, Mr. Bumpo, about the slipping quality of the Wan Chai scene and probably ought to follow your example and try some other avenues of fun.Firmly agree. Gone are the good old days. But that being said, you have to hunt for them. Its hit and miss. On our esteemed poster JacktheLad2 who recommended Boracay, Traffic and Neptune 3. Boracay is hit or miss. Sometimes you see nice ones and sometimes you don't. Same with Neptune 3. Traffic had some nice lookers the times I was there.

Throw another one into the equation. Had a buddy of mine from Singapore in town who is lonely when he is away from home. He didn't like anything at NM. Went to his favourite haunt, Boracay, but it was empty. So took him to Neptune 3. Saw the type of gal he likes (Filipina and big tits) and bought her a margarita and was joking with her and laughing. Then I popped the question about overnight. She says she charged 1, 500HKD for three hours. I said no, give me an overnight rate. She says my rate is 1, 500 every three hours so you just multiply. If you want me for 9 hours, just multiply by 3. That's 4, 500. So Nick says, that 12, 000 per day. I said that's 60, 000 Pesos a day that you want?

Ramn goes to the bathroom. He had just attended one of the most boring seminars and wondered whether somebody wrote the word "Sucker" on his forehead while he was napping. No. Nothing on my forehead.

So I went back and said,"If you don't like me, just say so. If its that time of the month say so."

She replies no, she's come here to work and she needs to work to make money for her kids.

How can you charge these prices I ask. I pulled up the 141 website and told her the prices they were charging.

I let Nick talk to her and tried to buy the waitress a drink, but alas, they're not allowed to accept drinks. I'm a sucker for a nice smile.

She leaves briefly to consult her friend and returns and asks for another margarita saying we can negotiate on the price. I ask again how she can think about charging such prices. She says her mamasan instructed her to do so. And I thought a room at the Four Seasons was expensive.

We left for Boracay which now had a lot of young ladies. Nick homes in on one. I see that he's comfortable and plans to take her out. Finish my drink and its home sweet home for me.

Mina from the Philippines was average looking wearing a nice dress, well manicured and pedicured and had cfms (come fuck me shoes) and I thought Nick would have a good time. But alas, he says she was all over him at the bar but back in the room she was don't touch me here, don't touch me there, and that kind of spoils the mood. Nick's mood was spoilt and finished off quickly. He paid 1K.

So you find a nice chick and there's still a minefield to contend with.

Have fun!

Chantik
05-05-12, 14:03
You must be very charming. Punters in the local forums quote paying 2K for one hour and between 4-5K for overnight. These places generally have a sign quoting prices that's hidden behind some curtain. That way if you challenge the bill, they will show you the sign.Think the guy may be confused.

Short time in the Go Go's is usually 2000-2500 (this is for 2hrs ).

And ladies drinks are usually be / w 250/300.

Know that if you are a regular in a GO GO. You can get a discount.

Chantik
05-05-12, 14:06
Rann.

Would have thought that 1500 for 3hrs was OK.

Why pay extra when the lady sleeps for 6hrs. Unless you must have breakfast!

Some guys don't like Neptune 3 cause the Mamason is aggressive. And often tells the lady how much she should charge the punter.

DonLuis
05-05-12, 17:16
Hi Guys.

I often travel to HK.

I would like to know where to get a real good massage, where happy ending (HJ only) is provided.

Basically, I went to some crappy places on 1st floors of buildings in WanChai. HJ was there. But the massage before that was horrible. And cost was pretty high.

Thanks for the help.

Johnny Rocket
05-05-12, 18:08
fully agreeing on the fact we are debating theory and i also agree there is so much pussy around there is no need of venturing to risky path. but our theory might become reality for others as there is people indulging on low age (at the edge of being ****) so i feel correct and appropriate information has to be given. internet generates a lot of urban legends and we do not have to add our own based on feelings. being yourself in the legal world you know well laws can be interpreted and that sometime depends on the judge himself.

i friendly stand still on my opinion, not forgetting that lots of mongerers are not citizens of the mongering country (say, fir argument, allowing sex between s 16yo girl and a 50yo wig) , but of countries with more restricted laws. you might survive the law of teensexyland but when back home in restrictedsexland the authorities might be if a different opinion and keep you in custody till the trial starts. this us something a lot of mongerers tends to underestimate.

having said that, a girl well above legal age is far more preferable, performance being the first reason.give me a girl who knows what she's doing and enjoys it any day over a sweet young thing.

even if i am correct on the law, nobody wants to be the guy who is the test case.

anyone who screws an under-18 is an idiot.

The Frenchman
05-05-12, 20:25
Hi all.

I had some very fun times in laguna with mainly indos.

Any news as to it being refurbished and re starting?

My last hits were in neptune 3 with more indos

Nice hotel near the container port with 30th floor view of the harbour at nite doing the business.

Memorable.

Another nice memory was doing an indo in the bishop lei hotel.

I found the link to the cath church added spice to the venture.

Greetings,

The frenchman

Member #4698
05-05-12, 22:07
Short time in the Go Go's is usually 2000-2500 (this is for 2hrs ). And ladies drinks are usually be / w 250/300.Yeah, that is steeper than Macau Sauna pricing. In Rio Sauna the top super models get 2100hk per session and great porn star service is pretty much guaranteed. No wonder these Go Go's have so few customers. I don't know how they manage to stay in business. Still, a few of the girl touts standing outside the bars are pretty damn sexy. For some reason, I just doubt the quality of their service. So right now, I am still on the avoid this venue side of the fence, but the bold, intrepid explorer in me is a little intrigued by the challenge. I will have to have a talk with one or two of these Go Go hotties and size up the situation. If you guys don't hear from me again, you will know things didn't work out well.

Chantik
05-06-12, 07:37
Be careful. Some of the Go Go's don't allow the girls to leave HK Island. Stay in the NewTterritories or near the Airport and no hope of getting a girl.

Brown Rail
05-06-12, 08:49
You must be very charming. Punters in the local forums quote paying 2K for one hour and between 4-5K for overnight. These places generally have a sign quoting prices that's hidden behind some curtain. That way if you challenge the bill, they will show you the sign.It has been a long time since I did anything in the street-level bars, but I remember those price boards, and that $4k was the LT norm. Drinks used to be $240, but if you insisted, they knocked it down to $120, asking if you are local. But even that strategy had limited effect as they just drank more quickly. Regulating the rate of consumption still relied on you being in the moment.

But, and this dates me, I remember that if a girl liked you, she would arrange to meet you at Strawberrys at closing time. Was it 4? Ah to come out at sun up with one of those sweet, sweet girls.

Brown Rail
05-06-12, 09:47
Rann.

Would have thought that 1500 for 3hrs was OK.

Why pay extra when the lady sleeps for 6hrs. Unless you must have breakfast!

Some guys don't like Neptune 3 cause the Mamason is aggressive. And often tells the lady how much she should charge the punter.Hi Chantik, I have to respectfully disagree. If you are really attracted to someone, and they are warm, cuddly and fun, it is the best to spend the night. You get to cuddle. When you wake up at 3 or 4 do it all again. Then when you wake with morning wood, to say good 'buy' properly.

On the other hand, if she turns out not to be such a find, you can always ask her to go after the first event.

And, yes, agree totally on Neptune 3. Thye can be so focused on pushing another drink, they push me out the door. It is hard to belive they are in the same corporate group as Neptuen 2. Neptune 2 is often a blast, except when it fills up with smoke. Never mind going out front, smokers don't even keep it in a corner any more. It, and Boracay, must be the smoky worst in Wanchai. I am sorry most for the people who work there.

I am wondering, anyone had any good LKF experiances? It has been a while since I did much there.

WillyWonker
05-06-12, 17:03
On my last journey through HK, I found (somewhere in this thread) a website that was not 141 and was not 161. The main feature that it described the particular services provided by each girl. Any one know which website that is? I have searched about 50 pages of this thread and still can't find it. How about a short list of the most popular sites.

Thanks

Jj1973
05-06-12, 18:34
Hi guys,

I'm arriving into HK on the morning of 7th may 2012 and then leaving for my flight back to London late that evening.

I was wondering on options for daytime fun. I'm aware of the 141 girls, walk ups and the well reported 37 dundas and K pressure. The only thing is that these places are generally catered for by mainland girls, of which I have had enough, having just come back from Donguan (report to follow) and Guangzhou.

My particular favourites are Phili girls and Thai girls, language being a big advantage (they generally speak english) and have nice trimmed bushes, although am open to suggestions.

Could anyone be so kind as to suggest some daytime options where I could possibly find what I am looking for.

For example, are there any of the wanchai bars that have girls providing services in the daytime. I have a hotel booked whilst in HK for the day if that helps.

Any suggestions, wanchai or otherwise would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

JJ1973

Chantik
05-06-12, 19:07
Hi guys,

I'm arriving into HK on the morning of 7th may 2012 and then leaving for my flight back to London late that evening.

I was wondering on options for daytime fun. I'm aware of the 141 girls, walk ups and the well reported 37 dundas and K pressure. The only thing is that these places are generally catered for by mainland girls, of which I have had enough, having just come back from Donguan (report to follow) and Guangzhou.

My particular favourites are Phili girls and Thai girls, language being a big advantage (they generally speak english) and have nice trimmed bushes, although am open to suggestions.

Could anyone be so kind as to suggest some daytime options where I could possibly find what I am looking for.

For example, are there any of the wanchai bars that have girls providing services in the daytime. I have a hotel booked whilst in HK for the day if that helps.

Any suggestions, wanchai or otherwise would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

JJ1973Try adultwork, sexyexcorts, craigslist.

You can always fing girls in the afternoon at Queen Victoria or Old China Hand.

Chantik
05-06-12, 19:11
Hi Chantik, I have to respectfully disagree. If you are really attracted to someone, and they are warm, cuddly and fun, it is the best to spend the night. You get to cuddle. When you wake up at 3 or 4 do it all again. Then when you wake with morning wood, to say good 'buy' properly.

On the other hand, if she turns out not to be such a find, you can always ask her to go after the first event.

And, yes, agree totally on Neptune 3. Thye can be so focused on pushing another drink, they push me out the door. It is hard to belive they are in the same corporate group as Neptuen 2. Neptune 2 is often a blast, except when it fills up with smoke. Never mind going out front, smokers don't even keep it in a corner any more. It, and Boracay, must be the smoky worst in Wanchai. I am sorry most for the people who work there.

I am wondering, anyone had any good LKF experiances? It has been a while since I did much there.My response to rann was quoting how the girl wanted 1500=3hr and then multiplying each 3 hours.

And I assumed that being in a bar it was after midnight.

Guys who like overnight usually try to grab the lady well before Midnight so they have a pleasant evening,

Switched
05-07-12, 11:35
Think the guy may be confused.

Short time in the Go Go's is usually 2000-2500 (this is for 2hrs ).

And ladies drinks are usually be / w 250/300.

Know that if you are a regular in a GO GO. You can get a discount.If you told me that I paid closer to $400 on drinks, that would be plausible, but I know what I paid for the 2 hours.

I arrived at HKG with limited HKG currency, $2200 to be exact, and had exactly $2000 left when I entered the Go-GO. I had more money on me, but it was in my local currency.

Initially when the prices were presented and she was trying to sell me on 2 women LT, I told her that I didn't have that kind of money on me. She said she accepted Credit Cards, but my CC was back in my hotel safe, and to be frank, there are few places overseas that I trust my CC being used and a GO-GO certainly isn't one of them. She then offered to escort me to a nearby money change booth twice. Both times I made it clear that she wasn't escorting me anywhere and If I needed to go to a booth, I was doing so on my own.

I had a girl on each arm for most of the time I was there. There was one that I certainly liked more than the other. When we negotiated, Her price for 1 ST started at an odd figure of $1940 (or something like that). When I flatly refised, she immediately dropped to $1500. I was pushing for $1000, and eventually settled for $1200. The next morning I had $400 and some loose stuff on me, so I'm pretty sure I know close to what the night costed me, and as I said before, if she held firm on the initial $2000 offer I would have left dry.

I do not claim to be an expert on all things GO GO and have no reason to doubt the stories of others. To be honest, I was initially a little embarrased to post this story, as, thanks largely to this site, I felt I had done all good research before my trip and sqandered it on such an elementary mistake, but in the end I wanted the girl and wanted to get laid and the story is in the history books. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you, but to suggest that I am 'confused' is a gross misrepresentation.

Switched
05-07-12, 11:43
Definitely agree with your sentiments.

Comparing the 2hrs with the Go-Go cutey to the time I spent in a Macau sauna later on in that week, the sauna was definitely better bang for your buck. While my GOGO experiences would have been good value in my home country, I'd take a sauna girl any day.

The thing about the sauna, is when you get 90 minutes, you get a full 90 minutes of attention. When I took this GOGO back, you have to keep in mind the time it took to get to my hotel, the time for me to shower, for her to shower twice and for her to brush her teeth. Whilst I appreciate the hygene, when you are on such a limited timeframe, you are happy to get a pop in with a massage, whereas 90 minutes in a sauna, you can easily fit in 2 pops and 2 massages.

Nonetheless, until you have done it, I doubt your curiosity will be satisfied.

Switched
05-07-12, 11:45
Hi Chantik, I have to respectfully disagree. If you are really attracted to someone, and they are warm, cuddly and fun, it is the best to spend the night. You get to cuddle. When you wake up at 3 or 4 do it all again. Then when you wake with morning wood, to say good 'buy' properly.I think you missed the point a little bit. If you are paying $1500 for 3 hours, $3000 for 6 hours hardly seems like good value. If you are going to pay the extra, you would at least expect her to be by your side when you wake up in the morning.

Chantik
05-07-12, 17:48
Switched.

The only thing that I can say is that the Go Go Bars sets the price for the girl. Ladies work on six month entertainment visa's. Of course you can tip the girl.

Can you remember the name of the Go GO bar. There are 2 next to Makati. A few local guys may be tempted to visit.

Lewis And Clark
05-07-12, 18:47
If you told me that I paid closer to $400 on drinks, that would be plausible, but I know what I paid for the 2 hours.

I arrived at HKG with limited HKG currency, $2200 to be exact, and had exactly $2000 left when I entered the Go-GO. I had more money on me, but it was in my local currency.

Initially when the prices were presented and she was trying to sell me on 2 women LT, I told her that I didn't have that kind of money on me. She said she accepted Credit Cards, but my CC was back in my hotel safe, and to be frank, there are few places overseas that I trust my CC being used and a GO-GO certainly isn't one of them. She then offered to escort me to a nearby money change booth twice. Both times I made it clear that she wasn't escorting me anywhere and If I needed to go to a booth, I was doing so on my own.

I had a girl on each arm for most of the time I was there. There was one that I certainly liked more than the other. When we negotiated, Her price for 1 ST started at an odd figure of $1940 (or something like that). When I flatly refised, she immediately dropped to $1500. I was pushing for $1000, and eventually settled for $1200. The next morning I had $400 and some loose stuff on me, so I'm pretty sure I know close to what the night costed me, and as I said before, if she held firm on the initial $2000 offer I would have left dry.

I do not claim to be an expert on all things GO GO and have no reason to doubt the stories of others. To be honest, I was initially a little embarrased to post this story, as, thanks largely to this site, I felt I had done all good research before my trip and sqandered it on such an elementary mistake, but in the end I wanted the girl and wanted to get laid and the story is in the history books. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you, but to suggest that I am 'confused' is a gross misrepresentation.Nice one Switched, you definitely came out ahead in the GOGO stakes, I know plenty of local blokes who would not have the nous to get away with what you did, good job. Nice to see our resident provider labelling you 'confused' as well, very few of us have had that 'honour' on this forum, so again well done!
I remember walking home with exaggerated care one night at 3:30 am in the morning, just as the doors were being closed at a certain GOGO bar. The gravelly voiced mamasan accosted me with, 'You want girl? Vely nice'
'M'sai la, dor je' I replied in my best Cantonese.
'You take flee, good luck. '
Turns out the bar had had a record night with all girls taken except for this one, a gorgeous but painfully shy filipina, who soon warmed up after I fed her and told her bad jokes, while watching GMA in my lounge. You just don't know what will happen in Wanchai sometimes!

Switched
05-07-12, 21:41
Switched.

The only thing that I can say is that the Go Go Bars sets the price for the girl. Ladies work on six month entertainment visa's. Of course you can tip the girl.

Can you remember the name of the Go GO bar. There are 2 next to Makati. A few local guys may be tempted to visit.Can't remember the name, but all the girls wore orange dresses and it was on the ground floor.

Pushkin13
05-08-12, 09:10
On my last journey through HK, I found (somewhere in this thread) a website that was not 141 and was not 161. The main feature that it described the particular services provided by each girl. Any one know which website that is? I have searched about 50 pages of this thread and still can't find it. How about a short list of the most popular sites.

ThanksTry 141, 168, 148 HK girls.

Should be no trouble.

In my opinion, it is useful to know if the girl / woman speaks English, pu tong hua, cantonese.

YMMV.

Explore, experience and report.

P13

Alexei
05-08-12, 11:33
A humble request: I visiting HK for the first time this week and look please for any suggestions for where to find very pretty girls / young ladies to 'stay', as I am with staying with colleagues in a smart hotel and don't wish to risk 'takeaway'! I have experience in Europe and South America but not Asia, and I am looking for 'transaction' rather than long conversations / romance / company although of course respect those who seek these items. I not worry about 'nice surroundings', and happy to pay what it takes for very attractive young ladies, but look for somewhere like for example Germany / Moscow where you can 'inspect', meet, agree, and go 'upstairs', no hassle. It seems HK culture very different, am I unrealistic to thus expect, gentlemen? All help admired and received greatfully.

Mattador
05-08-12, 14:19
I am now in Hong Kong, and there is tendency of the escort agencies to upsell japanese girls at around 2500-3000 HKD a nite whereas Filipinos or Chinese would cost 1500-2000. What is the story here?

In any case even 1500HKD is expensive in my books.

Lookingforcfc
05-08-12, 15:46
I am now in Hong Kong, and there is tendency of the escort agencies to upsell japanese girls at around 2500-3000 HKD a nite whereas Filipinos or Chinese would cost 1500-2000. What is the story here?

In any case even 1500HKD is expensive in my books.Pretty obvious no? Just look at the countries you are talking about. Even though China has the world's 2nd highest GDP it's GDP per capita is lower than Japan and S. Korea (you are not going to get too many N. Korean girls). So getting Japanese or S. Korean girls to "lower her standards" and come to a lower economic zone (although technically speaking HK is not and China is) is going to cost you more than getting a village girl from China or Philippines. This has always been the case. BTW what country are you from that you are not privy to this, no offense just curious?

Chantik
05-08-12, 15:59
I am now in Hong Kong, and there is tendency of the escort agencies to upsell japanese girls at around 2500-3000 HKD a nite whereas Filipinos or Chinese would cost 1500-2000. What is the story here?

In any case even 1500HKD is expensive in my books.Actually 2500-3000 to book a girl for a night from an escort agency is a decent price. Maybe on the cheap side. Doubt that a Filipina or Chinese would go for 1500. 2000.

You might get a private or a girl from a bar LT for 1500-2000. But it depends on the meaning of all night. Take her from a bar at 3am and she could be gone by 8 or 9am.

Chantik
05-08-12, 16:09
L and C.

Sorry, Don't think I have called you confused.

Maybe you can tell the punters how much you paid for this lovely FLIPPER.

And the name of the GO GO bar.

As you said ' you never know what can happen in Wanchai'.

Think the punters want to share in your good luck!

Watching GMA on TV. Is this Good Morning Australia. Taking a wild guess.

Boarer
05-09-12, 07:12
I agree 100%Hmmm. May I be bold and suggest contacting Wildhawk to do some mongering together.


A humble request:RTFF. Last 2 months should cover it. You can also use an escort like Chantik ala JTL. Just don't try to short change or you will end up like Obama's entourage with the puta in Cartagena. (She was probably overall bitchy anyways so should have stayed clear) IMHO, I would use a short term hotel like Victoria or Beverly. Or get an extra room at JJ or Mingle for multiple use.


'You take flee, good luck. '
If you told me that I paid closer to $400 on drinks, that would be plausible, but I know what I paid for the 2 hours.WOW. YMMV is really true. Would never expect a freebie from there. Your beer can be as cheap as $10 while ladies' drinks are at least 10 times more. IMHO, only drink yourself and let the mamasan know you want to take away but need to sample/check the merchandise. IMHO some of those places used to have solid 9s girls. Quality was slipping. Switched, your prices are in the normal range for those curtain places. You just need to work out a faster escape route or move to a closer hotel.

If you like her, get her number and you can meet when she is off. Would practice caution as she might get in trouble if caught. Oh, one more thing. Looks and dancing skills are not always reflective of between the sheets performance. It is just a possible indicator.

Switched
05-09-12, 08:45
WOW. YMMV is really true. Would never expect a freebie from there. Your beer can be as cheap as $10 while ladies' drinks are at least 10 times more. IMHO, only drink yourself and let the mamasan know you want to take away but need to sample / check the merchandise. IMHO some of those places used to have solid 9s girls. Quality was slipping. Switched, your prices are in the normal range for those curtain places. You just need to work out a faster escape route or move to a closer hotel.

If you like her, get her number and you can meet when she is off. Would practice caution as she might get in trouble if caught. Oh, one more thing. Looks and dancing skills are not always reflective of between the sheets performance. It is just a possible indicator.Beers were closer to $50 I believe. The ladies were not drinking traditional girly cocktails, rather Tequila shots instead. And from memory, were also around the $50 mark, although they may have been a little higher. I really don't remember.

And no, I didn't get a 'freebie', it just appears that I managed to get out of it alot cheaper than some others.

Alexei
05-09-12, 12:53
[QUOTE=Boarer; 1278828]Hmmm. May I be bold and suggest contacting Wildhawk to do some mongering together.

RTFF. Last 2 months should cover it. You can also use an escort like Chantik ala JTL. Just don't try to short change or you will end up like Obama's entourage with the puta in Cartagena. (She was probably overall bitchy anyways so should have stayed clear) IMHO, I would use a short term hotel like Victoria or Beverly. Or get an extra room at JJ or Mingle for multiple use.

Thank you Boarer. Last 2 months are full of interesting posts, but hard reading thru to get a firm idea of best Places for girls 'to stay', seems most are recommendations of where to find ' to go'. Which sound amazing. But is best option in HK then to get a suitable room, rather than expect action on premises? Sorry for sounding like a newbie. Which is what I am.

Chantik
05-09-12, 15:40
Context.

Have Phillipina girlfriends and sometimes they invite a friend and we joke is a Flipper coming. Or I get an Indonesian friend to join us. And they joke an Indo is coming. Or my friends invite an American woman. They will say ABC, if she is of Asian background, or Lady Gwailo if she is caucasian. We have never been offended. But of course this is within our group of friends.

So there is always a chance someone on a forum could be offended.

Thought there has only been one offensive term used in this discussion.

Guys don't forget the Makati Birthday party with an open bar.

9pm-11pm.

Thursday, May 17

WildHawk
05-09-12, 18:29
I am now in Hong Kong, and there is tendency of the escort agencies to upsell japanese girls at around 2500-3000 HKD a nite whereas Filipinos or Chinese would cost 1500-2000. What is the story here?

In any case even 1500HKD is expensive in my books.Well, Japanese is on my to-do list, so I called an escort agency that one of the top Google hits (and hence they raise their price to pay for that marketing). I emailed. Waited a day. And what was advertised as, I think $2K HK was quoted as $5K (the $2K was to the agency, the difference to the girl. Uuuummmmmm. Nope. No way in hell I would pay the equivalent of US $650 for an hour with a Japanese girl. Absurd, though somebody is probably paying it. (from the photos, if they are to be believed, I would say the girl is of AV-quality material.) For that price, I'd want some sort of DNA analysis proving that she really is Japanese. There are Thai girls who are able to pass themselves off as Chinese; and if you know a few Japanese phrases, well, those can be learned.

There are some girls on the 141 sites who say they are Japanese; rates are generally higher than what is asked by PRC and local HK. I am skeptical that they are what they claim to be.

Good luck in your pursuit, and post about your success in this endeavor.

Member #4698
05-09-12, 20:27
Well, Japanese is on my to-do lis. There are some girls on the 141 sites who say they are Japanese; rates are generally higher than what is asked by PRC and local HK. I am skeptical that they are what they claim to be.Back in 2011, I chose a Japanese 141 girl and there is no doubt in my mind she was Japanese. I could tell 100% by her look, demeanor, personality, and body language. Incidentally, she was an all around great lay and I would not be recommending these girls if the one I had, had not completely satisfied me.

It was around the time of the nuclear accident and she was heading back to Japan the very next day and was naturally concerned about the recent event. Her rate was 1700hk. On the 141 site, most Koreans and Japanese girls charge between 1500 to 1900hk. Quality PRC girls usually ask 700 to 900hk. Local HKG girls ask between 900 and 1200hk. When I am in the mood for a 141 girl, I perform a search for a TST girl with either service between 700 to 900 for PRC's or with service greater than 1000 if I want Korean or Japanese.

I tried a Korean 141 girl on my recent trip back in March and have picked up Korean FL's in Hari's Bar way back in 1010 and earlier. The Korean FL's at Hari's used to ask 2000hk for LT and were worth it. I did not see any Koreans at Hari's in 2012. The Korean 141 girl was very good too, but way more expensive (it was ST) than the FL's and she was not comparable to my Japanese girl. Of course it depends on the girl and YMMV. Based on my own experience, I would say either go for a good looking PRC girl for 900hk or less, or go for a Japanese girl for 1700 to 1900hk, and go for a Korean 141 girl after sampling Japan 141 or if they too are on your to-do list. Bottom line, I will repeat with another Japanese 141 girl next time I am in town. It was a very good session and Japanese girls remain on my DO list! I would love to go to Tokyo. Anybody speak fluent Japanese and know their way around?

Jj1973
05-09-12, 20:59
Stayed in East TST a few days ago.

Did not play as recovering from a few days on the mainland, but outside my hotel and surrounding hotels such as intercontinental and shangri la, in the late evening, there were a couple of mamasans out touting the girls. Don't know prices but a friend had told me to look out for them.

He also recommended noble sauna which is also within walking distance.

Chantik
05-10-12, 05:35
Wildhawk.

Five shots on goal.

She was probably disappointed that you couldn't make 6.

Bruce52
05-10-12, 10:43
I arrived in Hong Kong for a week of business on Sunday, May 6. After checking into my hotel, in the Sai Wan area (Hong Kong island, west of Central) , I went across the street to check out several massage places. The first one had three women, but none of them turned me on, so I went to another. The second one had just one woman, but she looked attractive, speaks good English and seemed interested (even pretty late at night) , so I bought an hour of body massage for 198 HKD. After we went to the room, I thought that I had negotiated full service for 300 more, but she wouldn't do the "whole package," as they say. Some sort of misunderstanding, maybe even my fault, because I was worn out from traveling. Anyway, I had a happy enough ending and went to bed right afterward.

Monday morning, I had about 90 free minutes in Kowloon and decided to check out the Temple Street night market area (at 11 am). Sure enough, just south of Kansu Street, plenty of young women were waiting for our kind of business. I chatted with a few and quickly chose a small, big-busted one who speaks good English. She asked for 500 for everything. And that was clear. But I offered 300, and she accepted. When we got to her room, right upstairs from where she was standing, she offered to have her friend join us for another 300. The friend also looked good and seemed interested, so I agreed. The three of us had a great time. In the limited time I had. And I went on to my business lunch feeling very good.

Tuesday I was just too busy to indulge, but Wednesday was better. I found a ****** walkup girl at 410 Queen's Road. W, just a hundred meters or so from my hotel. Interestingly, she was on 141 Wednesday but is missing today! How does that happen? Did she forget to pay her bill or something? Anyway, she advertised the whole package for 400, which I was happy to pay this 27-year-old slim, attractive and engaging girl, supposedly a Hong Kong native. I really had a great time.

I'm free today (Thursday) , so I did a little sightseeing, then went back to the Temple Street area around 3 pm. Fewer girls were standing around than on Monday, but I quickly found a group of four young ones who were clearly working. For reasons that only she knows, the most attractive one starting shouting at me in Chinese, making it clear that I should go away. Which I did, of course. The other three wouldn't even look at me after what happened with the first one. I have no idea what motivated that. I just said hello. And there is absolutely no doubt that they were working, not just shopping or chatting. But a little farther south, an old woman sitting on a chair in front of a stairway invited me to partake of her associate waiting upstairs, for the remarkable sum of 120 HKD, about 15 USA dollars! I was interested, didn't even bother to negotiate at that price, but wanted to see the girl first. That was a bit of a problem, but finally the woman downstairs relented and let me meet the younger one upstairs. She is a slim. 28-year-old Thai and definitely my kind of girl. I speak a bit of Thai, so we hit it off immediately. She gave me a wonderful, no-holes-barred half hour or so for that remarkable price, and I gave her a 20 HKD tip for which she seemed to be grateful. (Afterwards, I felt kind of cheap, but it is what it is.)

I'll probably go out again after dinner for another 141 girl in the neighborhood. And, of course, there's tomorrow!

Bruce

Kbkbal
05-10-12, 14:01
Summary of two more biz trips to HK last year.

K-Pressure

The first visit was on a Sunday and pickings were slim. Slim PRC lady, I'd say in her late thirties. All the standard K-P services – no complaints, but not one of their all-stars by any means.

On the second visit, I went back to K-P to see a girl who was one of ATFs when I used to live in HK. She's something of a rarity at KP as she is a local HK girl rather than a PRC. She's put on a bit of weight over the years, but with her advanced skills and our long 'relationship', I had a ball with her and it was just like a reunion fuck with an ex-gf :)

Craigslist

First CL booking was with the local girl I'd met on my previous trip. She was as friendly as ever and I had a nice time with her but the sex was nowhere near as good as the previous time.

Second round was with an Italian freelancer, who posts frequently on CL. A big girl, compared to petite Oriental standards, but attractive in that olive-skinned, dark-eyed Italian way and her accent was quite a turn-on too. GFE service – BBBJ, DATY etc – but no kissing, for some reason. A good bonk on a Saturday afternoon and I've seen that she's now offering rear-entry as well in her recent CL posts, so will re-visit on my next trip.

Third round was with another young local girl, very much someone in it for fun and pocket-money, rather than as a profession. Definitely a posher girl from a more upmarket background, international-school educated and more polished than all the other local HK girls I've encountered. I asked her to turn up in a short skirt with no knickers on and she duly obliged :)

She was an absolute corker, this one. Very young – just out of high school about to go to university, fabulous body with killer legs, a fine, fine arse and superb breasts. Cute face too, with a wicked smile and a naughty sense of humour. Very self-assured for such a young 'un.

It was sort of a semi-GFE service. Passionate kissing, but no tongues; DATY but CBJ etc. Didn't last very long at the sight of her in doggy and came far too fast for my liking, but it was a very good encounter indeed.

Round four, another local HK girl – this one much more from a blue-collar background. To be honest, when she sent me her pics etc beforehand, I wasn't too attracted, but she was another young 'un (just turned 20) , so I thought what the hell. It would have been quite a tepid encounter in the end, except for one thing she let me do, which made up for her general lack of skills and boring personality. :)

Round five was a real anticlimax. Booked a meeting with a young local girl who posts regularly on CL and offers a PSE service. She walked into my room and greeted me with a kiss. I stood to attention immediately as the girl had a lovely figure and a very cute face too. Two minutes later, she said she'd forgotten condoms and had to pop down to the Watsons. When I said I had some, she said she'd forgotten her lube and had to go get that. Needless to say she never came back.

I was completely bewildered as she'd greeted me with a kiss and all as she walked in. I wondered whether it was a race thing – she asked if I was American after the initial greeting (which was a bit weird since I have a very English accent) and all the 'forgotten lube' stuff started after I told her I was of Sri Lankan origin. However, when I subsequently e-mailed her to ask what the hell happened, she replied sounding very apologetic, saying it was not a race issue and it was all a big misunderstanding, but she didn't elaborate further.

I'm very hygienic, polite, courteous and respectful, so I can't imagine that I stunk her out, scared her off or pissed her off either, and I remain perplexed about the whole episode.

She was a slinky little minx though, so I will try to hook up with her again next trip.

Round six never happened in the end. I'd made an appointment with a lady and when I smsed her my room number on the day of our meeting, she asked for the name I had booked into the hotel under. As (I imagine) everyone else does, I communicate on CL under an alias so I didn't want to give her my real name. I told her she could just come straight up to my room with no questions asked but she was insistent so we ended up calling it off.

Round seven was a rather interesting Phili duo of a (very pretty) TS and her (very sexy) friend. Booked for 90 minutes / 2 SOG, but in the end spent far too much time chatting and having a laugh with them and ended up with just the one shot after BBBJs from the two of them and some yummy DATY on the girl.

Local Part-timer

Felt nostalgic and called up Helen, a part-timer who used to be one of my regulars when I used to live in HK. I met her through her friend, Mandy, who doubles as a part-timer and agent, whom I came across on 141. Mandy is a total hottie, and I had bonked her a couple of times in the past, but I always liked Helen better as we got on really well and always had a laugh together. Helen is not as hot as Mandy – more a GND type with a very cute face, works as a hairdresser in her 'day job', but I found her much warmer than Mandy, who was more 'mechanical'.

Had a really fun shag with Helen this time round too . Very comfortable and familiar, just like with a gf.

Yellow Sign Walk-up

Had a morning to kill before my flight, so hopped across the road to the same walk-up I tried the time before. Local girl this time, pretty face, nice bod, looked to be quite experienced and mature. Everything covered, no kissing, no DATY but a good time and a nice way to kill time.

Boarer
05-10-12, 16:28
But is best option in HK then to get a suitable room, rather than expect action on premises? Sorry for sounding like a newbie. Which is what I am.RTFF. Did I mention RTFF? If you read around the clutter of the past 48 hours, you will find what you are looking for. Suggest K-P to get the pressure off and clear the head for more relaxed browsing.


Summary of two more biz trips to HK last year.
Stayed in East TST a few days ago.
Back in 2011, I chose a Japanese 141 girl
Well, Japanese is on my to-do list.

There are some girls on the 141 sites

Admin
05-10-12, 16:34
Greetings Everyone,

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise pointless posts, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.

This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thanks,

Jackson

WildHawk
05-10-12, 16:40
you're cheating. i told you not to count every "burst" as a shot. 5 burst the first shot does not make it 5 shots.

{ok, kidding aside}. wow. 5 shots is a lot.ya learn something every day. thanks. and i appreciate your good humor, mr. nic.

i will try and take you up on the offer of meeting up in bkk. i will be there in the latter part of june for bkk and patts (or another destination that would offer better tourism with a decent-enough opportunity for p4p. loved phuket but prolly won't fit that locale in this time; recommendations of places in the bkk area are welcome). i'll pm you nearer that time.

and back to my day, whatever you call five sessions in the span of 14 hours or so. that's quite adequate for this old man. and the sessions were g-r-e-a-t. she gave as well as she gets, daty, cim, started to try anal (all condom, as is my requirement) but her discomfort was too much for me to bear, let alone her so, ahem, backed off that.

gave the girl, a nice 25 (only detectable sign that she was a dh were the hands; i could not imagine having help like that at home, but she could not possibly be as good at working as she is at fucking). dropped hk $800 in her purse (which she opened up like a halloween bucket; trick or treat! amortized, i think it was a good value and some here might whine that i "overpaid," but i am expecting a repeat session with this one. funny how she seemed all indignant when i asked about pricing when i picked her up at (drumroll, please) neptune ii. at 4 a. m."i am not a working girl!" (an aside: but, like they say when asked about whether they would fuck someone for a million dollars, the answer is invariably "of course! that is a life-changing amount!" so we're all hookers, we just have different prices!)

one irritating thing is that her swiss "boyfriend," a married teacher (of all things, i don't know how he can afford the wife and three kids in hk and a mistress on the side). i took the girl to stanley and he apparently wigged out with suspicion. the girl had never been there, or anywhere else it seems, in the 1. 5 years she's been in hk. swissie (now is that an offensive term? really hope not) kept calling asking whether she was with a guy. now the feller apparently speaks to her in pastiche of cantonese and mandarin, so i didn't know what the conversations were about, but the calls were starting to get on my nerves by the third one. when i heard "victoria," as in the hotel mentioned i knew the day was growing shorter, as i knew where i stood in the pecking (peckering?) order. so the joke, if you will, was on me as my bride for the day was eloping with the other guy, who makes her walk 10 feet away so as to not be seen together (as apparently he finds himself some kind of a celebrity in hong kong, lmfao. oh well!

she would end up leaving about 8 pm that day, after shots (no no no bursts!) 4 and 5, then after me learning that she would not stay the full evening. i made a real point of getting that last one in, but with this girl it was no problem. just a nice little body, firm b cups and a delicious pussy.

along the way i did try to educate the girl about the definition of "boyfriend" versus "client," and that she ought to protect herself* but then again she's smart enough to know how to milk an earner, as i guess even schoolteachers have disposable incomes. (oh shit, i will have offended all the teachers and retired educators here. sorry!)

* one of my recommendations was that she rethink the barebacking, as she was wanting to slip me in unprotected. said she and swissie (sorry!) do it that way. i suggested to her that he, being a playa (and a watchmaking chocolatier cheesemaker extraordinaire doodle-doo at that. sorry!) has probably has got more girlies on the side, too.

and that was the extent of my emotional investment. later got the obligatory speed-dialed "i miss you" text, flashed out to all and sundry. still, methinks that means she wants more. of my money.

btw, rumor has it that another person on this forum posted about sex!

Boarer
05-10-12, 17:43
When I heard "Victoria," as in the hotel mentioned I knew the day was growing shorter.

BTW, rumor has it that another person on this forum posted about sex!Opps. I did it again.

Was cooling off a last week on a frappe after a stressful 2 hour workout with a new found friend when her phone rings. While I was sitting there, she makes plans within 2 minutes to meet her bf at a bar. She pouts and says "I told you I have a bf. He is finally free I have to meet him." Fine by me. I will work around his schedule! 8-D I am usually free way before 6P on a Sunday.

Johnny Rocket
05-10-12, 18:31
Kbkbal:

Can you explain how you met so many sweet young local girls on CL in such a short span of time given that almost all posts by women on CL are WGs or spammers? Or were all those HKese WGs or semi-pros?

I easily recognized the local girl offering PSE, the Italian who asks for outrageous amounts of money and others as CL regular posters. But the young locals, You landed more in a very short time than most guys can land from CL in a year.

I'm not calling BS I'm asking you to share your skills with the forum. Are you so hot the girls can't resist? Is there something you say to them that you really stick out from the 1000 other guys who answer the few real ads on CL? Overseas Chinese in LKF are reasonable but still difficult targets for a guy with game; local uni students are just about unheard of.

Would appreciate training in the ways of the force, young Skywalker.

Chantik
05-10-12, 19:37
KBKBAL.

CL.

Meeting 6 which didn't happen.

Most Escorts will not visit you unless they can check with the hotel (via phone) that you are staying in that hotel and in that room. And if you don't provide a booking name HK hotels will not put through a call. And if you go through an Escort Agency. The agency will not allow a lady to visit until they have called your room. You only have to check the online booking forms to see essential information that must be provided.

And occasionally Ladies will be stopped in the foyer of 5 star hotels and asked who they are visiting. You can't give room number with guests name. You can't go up.

Chantik
05-10-12, 19:40
KBKBAL.

Thanks for your report.

Think the guys will be interested in how much you paid for your fun.

Shboom
05-10-12, 23:42
Thanks. I learned a lot from the ISG, and hope learn more and go to new destinations.

I am new in the ISG and also new in the mongering scene (the maximum that I ever did was an escort here and there, all of it in the Americas). Anyway, now I am living in Mainland China, and will be going to my first trip to Hong Kong & Macau in the end of the month. 6 days in total (2 in Macau. 4 in HK).

I did a lot of RTFF in this last couple of days, a lot of escorts websites and about 40+ pages of the ISG. Now I know the services of the places, their location and price. But I still have a few questions in both areas but I will post them in their respective treads, I don't want to unorganized anything, so I hope this is the best way to do it. I don't intend to do any tourist stuff, only mongering.

Hong Kong:

This tread is similar to the one from that I posted in the Macau area, but with a few differences; I will arrive in Hong Kong night of 29/05 Tuesday, and will stay there until 03/06 (early morning, so, cannot enjoy the day)

The preferences are listed below (the same from the other tread). From the RTFF I did I got intrigued with the 148, 161, 141 and etc. Also K-pressure. 37 Dundas. Also Wanchai bars, like Neptune's and Escape. Also find Hari's and Temple Street very interesting (although Temple Street is not very famous for having Stunners, but just walk around will be fun enough). HK, also have much more High Level escorts websites.

- I have a preference for anal (me doing the deed, active, just to be clear. Anyway) , but I understand this is not very common in these parts of Asia.

- I also would like to 'get' a few Asians from: Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, Vietnam or Local (HK & Macau). The order of nationality is also my order of preference (from most wanted to least wanted). Thai, Philis, don't need, end of October I will go to these countries. Please, no Mainland Chinese, I know they are beautiful, but I live in Mainland, so I want some variety.

- I also like stunners, models, the pretty ones. 8 to 10 are the best possible grade for me.

So, after all of this explanation, which one (or two) of these places is better to fulfill my desires? Or maybe you guys have other suggestions?

Depending of your suggestion, could you point me a good hotel to move easily thru HK, I am not familiar with the area, so it will be a bit hard for me to go around, but the addresses for the places I listed earlier in the post are all carefully written. If the best possible scenario for me is to get a VIP escort, so just tell me a good 4/5 starts, easy to move from and to it.

Also what is the best time to go to these places, so I can get the models type? I know this question seems a bit troublesome, but I went back to the page number 50 and start going down (trying to get to number 1). I could only either some of them or the time that other members went, before my eyes got sore of all the reading. (I already got the time for the Temple Street, so don't need to worry about this one.)

PS. : I saved some money, so I am prepared to drop a few hundreds more for the 'extra mile'.

Thanks one more time

Le Grand
05-11-12, 04:05
But a little farther south [Temple Street], an old woman sitting on a chair in front of a stairway invited me to partake of her associate waiting upstairs, for the remarkable sum of 120 HKD, about 15 USA dollars!They are amazing good bargain even though the set up is defintiely on the down market side. Interestingly, I asked a 141 girl about them not long ago. She looked disgusted and told me those Thai girls are all dirty and their pussys smell bad. That was certainly not the case in the few times I used their services. Actually, I found them to be pretty good.

Kbkbal
05-11-12, 07:53
Hey JR,

Sorry if it wasn't clear but these were all pay-for-play. I really doubt that any of the single girls who post on CL are genuine NSAs: I reckon they're all pretty much pro, semi-pro or non-pro but looking for pocket-money.

Also, they weren't exactly found in a short space of time. My two visits were four months apart and I'd been in contact with some of them for a while before my visit.

By the way, I'm not sure what you would define as outrageous amounts of money, but the Italian didn't ask for that much.

Cheers,

KB.


Kbkbal:

Can you explain how you met so many sweet young local girls on CL in such a short span of time given that almost all posts by women on CL are WGs or spammers? Or were all those HKese WGs or semi-pros?

I easily recognized the local girl offering PSE, the Italian who asks for outrageous amounts of money and others as CL regular posters. But the young locals, You landed more in a very short time than most guys can land from CL in a year.

I'm not calling BS I'm asking you to share your skills with the forum. Are you so hot the girls can't resist? Is there something you say to them that you really stick out from the 1000 other guys who answer the few real ads on CL? Overseas Chinese in LKF are reasonable but still difficult targets for a guy with game; local uni students are just about unheard of.

Would appreciate training in the ways of the force, young Skywalker.

Kbkbal
05-11-12, 08:01
Hi Chantik,

Actually the lady in meeting no. 6 was the only one who asked for the name my hotel room was booked under. Since I left HK, I've been back on four separate biz trips and have seen several girls in my hotel room. There has never been a problem as the hotel is very busy, very popular and the rooms are easily accessible from the ground floor lobby, which is one of the reasons I always stay there.

Regards,

KB.


KBKBAL.

CL.

Meeting 6 which didn't happen.

Most Escorts will not visit you unless they can check with the hotel (via phone) that you are staying in that hotel and in that room. And if you don't provide a booking name HK hotels will not put through a call. And if you go through an Escort Agency. The agency will not allow a lady to visit until they have called your room. You only have to check the online booking forms to see essential information that must be provided.

And occasionally Ladies will be stopped in the foyer of 5 star hotels and asked who they are visiting. You can't give room number with guests name. You can't go up.

Kbkbal
05-11-12, 08:05
Between HK$1000 to 1600 for the CL girls I met, a bit more for the TS / Girl duo but I can't remember exactly how much. As I recall it wasn't too bad for what was supposed to be 90min / 2SOG.

The 141 girls were whatever was advertised on the site at the time. I don't exactly recall.

K-Pressure has standard rates, but I always tip the girl directly as well.


KBKBAL.

Thanks for your report.

Think the guys will be interested in how much you paid for your fun.

Zamziv
05-11-12, 09:13
I contacted elitebelle. Com and sent me "model" escort.

Overnight cost 10000 hk$

She was ok but not "model"

Was busy all time on her mobile.

CBJ and rough hand job so I had to stop her.

Than she said she need to leave before sun.

I kicked her out.

Was so horny.

Called a number from 141.

A "model"

A sweet young tall and slim.

Real great GFE.

Long kissing nice blow job-not covered.

Great time

Joe Banana
05-11-12, 09:42
Is this her?

http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/3007633696.html

Has a pic too but I couldn't figure how to copy it to here.

Chantik
05-11-12, 15:25
Hi Chantik,

Actually the lady in meeting no. 6 was the only one who asked for the name my hotel room was booked under. Since I left HK, I've been back on four separate biz trips and have seen several girls in my hotel room. There has never been a problem as the hotel is very busy, very popular and the rooms are easily accessible from the ground floor lobby, which is one of the reasons I always stay there.

Regards,

KB.But you didn't answer the question. Lets put the shoe on the other foot. Would you visit a hotel room without being able to verify that the person is actually staying at the hotel.

Chantik
05-11-12, 15:27
Shboom.

Good luck finding model type girls.

Guys say the quality is dropping.

BionicMan
05-11-12, 16:08
But you didn't answer the question. Lets put the shoe on the other foot. Would you visit a hotel room without being able to verify that the person is actually staying at the hotel.Fully agreeing. I make a phone call and book a girl into "my room" and give only room number.

The number is of an enemy of mine and I want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off, maybe he shares the room with the wife.

Even if give "my name" and this is his name, the girl goes there, knocks at the door, and. One can well imagine what happens.

I think a serious agency or an outcall girl will first call the room to check if the reservation comes from the guy actually occupying that room. Unless he is known to her (or the agency). Simple and basic procedure, right, Chantik?

WildHawk
05-11-12, 16:40
then went back to the Temple Street area around 3 pm. Fewer girls were standing around than on Monday, but I quickly found a group of four young ones who were clearly working. For reasons that only she knows, the most attractive one starting shouting at me in Chinese, making it clear that I should go away. Which I did, of course. The other three wouldn't even look at me after what happened with the first one. I have no idea what motivated that.Think you must have run into the group I saw last Saturday, and posted about. By far they were the youngest and the best-looking of a fairly lackluster and limited collection. I am assuming you are non-Chinese. The motivation, from my understanding is that they only do Chinese. So don't take it personally. Racist little fiends!

Kbkbal
05-11-12, 17:40
I don't think there actually was a question in your post, but was it you wanted me to reply to?

I have visited hotel rooms in HK on four occasions to meet CL hook-ups (pay-for-play ones, of course). On each occasion, the lady simply gave me the name of the hotel and her room number, we agreed a time and I showed up and knocked on the door. I've also visited 141 hotel "in calls" many times with the same procedure...


But you didn't answer the question. Lets put the shoe on the other foot. Would you visit a hotel room without being able to verify that the person is actually staying at the hotel.

Kbkbal
05-11-12, 17:45
If it's an agency and they have certain set procedures which one knows about when one makes a booking, that's fine. My policy with CL contacts is to maintain my privacy as much as possible and thus far all of them have been fine to just come up to the room, except for that one instance I mentioned in my post.

I'm not saying one side of the coin is right and the other isn't: at the end of the day, it's down to either party to determine what they are comfortable with.


Fully agreeing. I make a phone call and book a girl into "my room" and give only room number.

The number is of an enemy of mine and I want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off, maybe he shares the room with the wife.

Even if give "my name" and this is his name, the girl goes there, knocks at the door, and. One can well imagine what happens.

I think a serious agency or an outcall girl will first call the room to check if the reservation comes from the guy actually occupying that room. Unless he is known to her (or the agency). Simple and basic procedure, right, Chantik?

Chantik
05-11-12, 18:48
Fully agreeing. I make a phone call and book a girl into "my room" and give only room number.

The number is of an enemy of mine and I want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off, maybe he shares the room with the wife.

Even if give "my name" and this is his name, the girl goes there, knocks at the door, and. One can well imagine what happens.

I think a serious agency or an outcall girl will first call the room to check if the reservation comes from the guy actually occupying that room. Unless he is known to her (or the agency). Simple and basic procedure, right, Chantik?Yes.

A perfect explanation.

Chantik
05-11-12, 18:53
If it's an agency and they have certain set procedures which one knows about when one makes a booking, that's fine. My policy with CL contacts is to maintain my privacy as much as possible and thus far all of them have been fine to just come up to the room, except for that one instance I mentioned in my post.

I'm not saying one side of the coin is right and the other isn't: at the end of the day, it's down to either party to determine what they are comfortable with.You do whatever makes you happy and works. All I am saying it that in a long and comprehensive report (informative and well written) , one shouldn't be disappointed that a lady wants to double check details. As it is common in this industry.

The guys wait for your next report.

BionicMan
05-11-12, 19:03
I don't think there actually was a question in your post, but was it you wanted me to reply to?

I have visited hotel rooms in HK on four occasions to meet CL hook-ups (pay-for-play ones, of course). On each occasion, the lady simply gave me the name of the hotel and her room number, we agreed a time and I showed up and knocked on the door. I've also visited 141 hotel "in calls" many times with the same procedure.Hotels occupied by ladies (WG) do not have to protect much privacy for the occupant of the room and so also the room occupant does not have much privacy. They might even agreed with the hotel on a nickname to be used matching the room number. Oh well, what kind of "hotels" are we talking about?

In Asia I found out that most of the times the hotel ignores my surname and bases on given name. So giving your real "Tom" name is not going to reveal much of your privacy if ever it is by giving you real family name be it Adamson or Lejeune or Bikkenhoff or Van den Lart and so on. Is that going to worry you?

Osuul
05-11-12, 19:52
Thanks. I learned a lot from the ISG, and hope learn more and go to new destinations.

I am new in the ISG and also new in the mongering scene (the maximum that I ever did was an escort here and there, all of it in the Americas). Anyway, now I am living in Mainland China, and will be going to my first trip to Hong Kong & Macau in the end of the month. 6 days in total (2 in Macau. 4 in HK).

I did a lot of RTFF in this last couple of days, a lot of escorts websites and about 40+ pages of the ISG. Now I know the services of the places, their location and price. But I still have a few questions in both areas but I will post them in their respective treads, I don't want to unorganized anything, so I hope this is the best way to do it. I don't intend to do any tourist stuff, only mongering.

Hong Kong:

This tread is similar to the one from that I posted in the Macau area, but with a few differences; I will arrive in Hong Kong night of 29/05 Tuesday, and will stay there until 03/06 (early morning, so, cannot enjoy the day)

The preferences are listed below (the same from the other tread). From the RTFF I did I got intrigued with the 148, 161, 141 and etc. Also K-pressure. 37 Dundas. Also Wanchai bars, like Neptune's and Escape. Also find Hari's and Temple Street very interesting (although Temple Street is not very famous for having Stunners, but just walk around will be fun enough). HK, also have much more High Level escorts websites.

- I have a preference for anal (me doing the deed, active, just to be clear. Anyway) , but I understand this is not very common in these parts of Asia.

- I also would like to 'get' a few Asians from: Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, Vietnam or Local (HK & Macau). The order of nationality is also my order of preference (from most wanted to least wanted). Thai, Philis, don't need, end of October I will go to these countries. Please, no Mainland Chinese, I know they are beautiful, but I live in Mainland, so I want some variety.

- I also like stunners, models, the pretty ones. 8 to 10 are the best possible grade for me.

So, after all of this explanation, which one (or two) of these places is better to fulfill my desires? Or maybe you guys have other suggestions?

Depending of your suggestion, could you point me a good hotel to move easily thru HK, I am not familiar with the area, so it will be a bit hard for me to go around, but the addresses for the places I listed earlier in the post are all carefully written. If the best possible scenario for me is to get a VIP escort, so just tell me a good 4/5 starts, easy to move from and to it.

Also what is the best time to go to these places, so I can get the models type? I know this question seems a bit troublesome, but I went back to the page number 50 and start going down (trying to get to number 1). I could only either some of them or the time that other members went, before my eyes got sore of all the reading. (I already got the time for the Temple Street, so don't need to worry about this one.)

PS. : I saved some money, so I am prepared to drop a few hundreds more for the 'extra mile'.

Thanks one more timeQuite high requirement. You can ask around in the Wanchai bars. But to find a stunner that will do nnal will cost you high premium.

Some of the 141 girls do anal. Actually there was one side were you could search for different services but I can't remember the address.

And if you are big in size they might even aborad if they agreed before.

But chances are higher then in Macao though.

For nationalities you can search in 141 they are sorted by category. In Wanchai you will find viets, thai and phill.

Member #4698
05-11-12, 22:01
I am new in the ISG and also new in the mongering scene (the maximum that I ever did was an escort here and there, all of it in the Americas). Anyway, now I am living in Mainland China, and will be going to my first trip to Hong Kong & Macau in the end of the month. 6 days in total (2 in Macau. 4 in HK).

I did a lot of RTFF in this last couple of days, a lot of escorts websites and about 40+ pages of the ISG. Now I know the services of the places, their location and price. But I still have a few questions in both areas but I will post them in their respective treads, I don't want to unorganized anything, so I hope this is the best way to do it. I don't intend to do any tourist stuff, only mongering.

I have a preference for anal (me doing the deed, active, just to be clear. Anyway) , but I understand this is not very common in these parts of Asia.To be honest I have never looked for third hole action in Macau or HKG and as a result I have never found any. I prefer pussy. But I will tell you this: in Macau rim jobs are on the menu at Rio, Nobre and East. I know that is not what you are talking about, but I would suppose a lot of girls would not mind if you gave it back to them and gave them a rim. Then with the asshole in play; you might find a girl or two who would open up the third hole for the main course for an extra 500 – 1000hk tip. No harm in asking. In HKG. 37 Dundas is another place where you might find this accommodation with a few of the girls for a little extra tip. Money talks. You wrote that you live in China. I assume pumping the third hole there is about as rare as it is in Macau and HKG.

Let us know how things work out for you, but I think you are going to have to wait until you travel to BKK and Pattaya before you find what you are looking for. Devils Den is where you should go. Take a taxi straight from the airport directly to Pat.

Osuul
05-11-12, 22:55
To be honest I have never looked for third hole action in Macau or HKG and as a result I have never found any. I prefer pussy. But I will tell you this: in Macau rim jobs are on the menu at Rio, Nobre and East. I know that is not what you are talking about, but I would suppose a lot of girls would not mind if you gave it back to them and gave them a rim. Then with the asshole in play; you might find a girl or two who would open up the third hole for the main course for an extra 500 – 1000hk tip. No harm in asking. In HKG. 37 Dundas is another place where you might find this accommodation with a few of the girls for a little extra tip. Money talks. You wrote that you live in China. I assume pumping the third hole there is about as rare as it is in Macau and HKG.

Let us know how things work out for you, but I think you are going to have to wait until you travel to BKK and Pattaya before you find what you are looking for. Devils Den is where you should go. Take a taxi straight from the airport directly to Pat.Whats up with DD. I was there in December. I had high expectations but it was kinda disapponting. There were some posts about a new owner.

I couldn't bring myself to choose an A+ girls. There were all in the 3 to 6 category.

Took the prettier non anal girls. All in all, nothing to remember.

I has much more fun with the bar girls from. Errrrr Happy I guess.

Its all a little blury.

Chantik
05-12-12, 06:31
Probably the majority of ladies or close to 50% offer A levels in HK.

Services will be listed on the ladies profile.

NicFrenchy
05-12-12, 08:54
Probably the majority of ladies or close to 50% offer A levels in HK.

Services will be listed on the ladies profile.Really? I am a bit on the large side. Would that still work? I'll be in HK in a month's time.

WildHawk
05-12-12, 10:49
Wildhawk.

Five shots on goal.

She was probably disappointed that you couldn't make 6.You are correct, Chantik. The sixth time would have been the charm. The real answer is that maybe I did not overpay (she prolly divided $800 by five on the way out).

She was so disappointed in me that I saw her last night at New Makati slithering all over another punter (and not nearly as "youthful" and "slim", these being relative words) Just broke my heart to see it, LOL. Well, the fellow made a fine pick. Still, I doubt he could have matched my pace.

My favorite pull from NM, Lulu / Rosie, made a fine display of herself with an exhibitionist pole dance. If you were there at 10:30ish you might have seen this damsel in the red dress. All eyes were on her. I was happy to report to the guy standing next to me that she was just as good on another type of pole."Realllllllly?" Guy's jaw dropped to the floor. After the performance our very fit girl seemed to be in quite the demand, exchanging phone numbers. She should have brought business cards! Smart marketing with that lass. I might just quit my day job and become her pimp. Just kidding! (I know that's not supposed to be done in HK, unless your a shady, punk-looking local.)

I think Wildhawk's problem is that he ends up liking these girls too much, and sometimes giving more than he gets. I promise to stop violating the cardinal rule of paying and forgetting.

Johnny Rocket
05-12-12, 12:53
I see, I didn't pick up before that the others were p4p.

The Italian told me she wanted the price of a new designer handbag. Maybe she has adjusted her expectations since then.

There are legit girls on CL looking for sex but they are few and far between. I manage to bag about one or two a year.


Hey JR,

Sorry if it wasn't clear but these were all pay-for-play. I really doubt that any of the single girls who post on CL are genuine NSAs: I reckon they're all pretty much pro, semi-pro or non-pro but looking for pocket-money.

Also, they weren't exactly found in a short space of time. My two visits were four months apart and I'd been in contact with some of them for a while before my visit.

By the way, I'm not sure what you would define as outrageous amounts of money, but the Italian didn't ask for that much.

Cheers,

KB.

Johnny Rocket
05-12-12, 12:55
$10000? What the fuck is wrong with you?


I contacted elitebelle. Com and sent me "model" escort.

Overnight cost 10000 hk$

She was ok but not "model"

Was busy all time on her mobile.

CBJ and rough hand job so I had to stop her.

Than she said she need to leave before sun.

I kicked her out.

Was so horny.

Called a number from 141.

A "model"

A sweet young tall and slim.

Real great GFE.

Long kissing nice blow job-not covered.

Great time

Kbkbal
05-12-12, 15:34
She charged me HK$1100.

I guess there are a few girls in the "Women Seeking Men" section. Good on you!


I see, I didn't pick up before that the others were p4p.

The Italian told me she wanted the price of a new designer handbag. Maybe she has adjusted her expectations since then.

There are legit girls on CL looking for sex but they are few and far between. I manage to bag about one or two a year.

Boarer
05-12-12, 17:42
My favorite pull from NM, Lulu / Rosie, made a fine display of herself with an exhibitionist pole danceGiven all the lessons around town, I am surprised there aren't better pole dancers (even though I probably rate a minus 10 but hold the ladies to a much higher standard on that and many other things). To confirm my infrequent Wanchai visits (did you catch that Chantik) , I was rather surprised last week when I noticed a pole in QV or OCH right smack in the middle of the entrance with an upside down girl hanging inches from the ground. When did that go up? Or has it been there the whole time?

Boarer
05-12-12, 17:58
$10000? What the fuck is wrong with you?Isn't it obvious? More money than brains. I mean, in the little head. LOL

JackTheLad2
05-12-12, 19:04
Overnight cost 10000 hk$Got to be a slip of the finger (excuse the unintended pun) , surely you mean $1000.
If not , then I can give you the number of the local psychiatric hospital for some treatment.

Shboom
05-12-12, 20:08
To be honest I have never looked for third hole action in Macau or HKG and as a result I have never found any. I prefer pussy. But I will tell you this: in Macau rim jobs are on the menu at Rio, Nobre and East. I know that is not what you are talking about, but I would suppose a lot of girls would not mind if you gave it back to them and gave them a rim. Then with the asshole in play; you might find a girl or two who would open up the third hole for the main course for an extra 500 – 1000hk tip. No harm in asking. In HKG. 37 Dundas is another place where you might find this accommodation with a few of the girls for a little extra tip. Money talks. You wrote that you live in China. I assume pumping the third hole there is about as rare as it is in Macau and HKG.

Let us know how things work out for you, but I think you are going to have to wait until you travel to BKK and Pattaya before you find what you are looking for. Devils Den is where you should go. Take a taxi straight from the airport directly to Pat.Thanks for the suggestion.

I think it will be a bit hard but should I just pick a girl and try my luck or is it better to ask the manager?

As you said the third hole action is rare, especially in WG, only found a had full of escorts. Most of the times I just convince the girls that I am dating to do it, none of them denied so far, but I had to waste a lot of saliva for them to accept! Believe it or not, in China, I got more of this kind of action from my girlfriends than escorts.


Whats up with DD. I was there in December. I had high expectations but it was kinda disapponting. There were some posts about a new owner.

I couldn't bring myself to choose an A+ girls. There were all in the 3 to 6 category.

Took the prettier non anal girls. All in all, nothing to remember.

I has much more fun with the bar girls from. Errrrr Happy I guess.

Its all a little blury.Osuul, so Dundas do have Anal on the menu, that is nice to know! Were the "Anal girls" pretty?

Guys, I really would like to thank you for the help!

Boarer
05-12-12, 20:19
Got to be a slip of the finger (excuse the unintended pun) , surely you mean $1000.When counting money, a finger, as does a fine cigar, needs to be moistened precisely; asked Bill C. Who perfected the technique for the later.

Chantik
05-12-12, 20:31
Fairly certain that the guy paid 10, 000. Some of the model agencies charge big time.

He should send a PM to shboom. Think he wants similar.

Chantik
05-12-12, 20:33
Boarer.

Think you may be generous with the truth. You may not often go to QV / OCH / Makati. But you are probably a regular at the standard bars. And you still get to see cute ladies.

Chantik
05-12-12, 20:34
The Italian lady is famous on CL and numerous other sites.

She usually says that she is a journalist / writer.

Chantik
05-12-12, 20:42
Nighthawk.

And she would have told her mates that you CAME 5 times. And would be proud of herself.

Hear whispers that the navy may be in town next week. Will find out more.

Kbkbal
05-13-12, 11:39
That's what she told me too.


The Italian lady is famous on CL and numerous other sites.

She usually says that she is a journalist / writer.

Jacky1973
05-13-12, 13:41
Where can you get affordable white girls in Hong Kong.

WildHawk
05-13-12, 16:43
I neglected to mention in my posting of a few ago about a somewhat amusing conversation at NM I had with a fellow punter, youngish American who was proud of his Indonesian girlfriend who comes to his place for the constitutional blowjob. The proud fellow pulled out his phone and showed me a picture of Miss Y, know her well. I am a lousy poker player; cannot hold a lie. He could tell from the look on my face."Noooooooo!" Crestfallen glance. I tried to help the guy feel a little bit better about himself by lying, stating that, well, I really couldn't tell from the photograph, but that she was a lovely girl.

Note to self: Do not be that guy.

Subsequently saw Miss Y at NM and confirmed by asking about Mr. X. Look of surprise. She asked where I met him, to which I replied "this bar." "When? When you see him?" (sound of suspicion)."Well, I think he was looking for you" (lie). Got to help a brother out now and then. Even though I have had a couple of very nice times with Miss Y, including a day out for fun, her mentioning money first thing in reply of my request for a "date" kind of pissed me off."meeeyyyyaaa papa seeiiiiock and me needs money."

But I do wonder what benefits are conferred from having one of the hookers being your quote-unquote girlfriend. Is Mr. X getting hit up for money to help ailing papa and the family goat? Chantik, please help me out here.

And to that poster who paid $10K and did not even get a "model" at that price, what's up with that? Frankly, I'm starting to get jaded about the girls at Makati asking 1. 5K for two hours. Conceivable payment if I adore the girl, but probably not going to happen soon. Every time a take a pass on that is getting me three, perhaps four gogo girls in LOS. But I do love those ever-accommodating Indonesian girls. Outside of bed, however, is often a different story.

WildHawk
05-13-12, 16:47
That's what she told me too.Don't know her, but I can say with certainty that she's making more money having sex than by working as a "journalist"! LOL.

Chantik
05-13-12, 19:10
GF and me popped into QV and Makati this afternoon for a drink.

Never seen so few guys on a Sunday afternoon. Spoke to a couple of D / H. Who were sad.

It must have been Mother's Day.

GF and me had some food in Cafe O. GF got dragged out by a guy. Quick sale.

The strangest things happen in Wanchai.

Chantik
05-13-12, 19:14
Nighthawk.

Often find that the Indo's are happy to go with young men. Free of charge. There is always money later on for phone bills, clothes etc.

But of course they need to find time for all the men.

Had to laugh about the young guy showing pics of Girl X. And being surprised that you know her. Odds are that if you take pics. It is not the first time.

Johnny Rocket
05-13-12, 20:56
GF and me popped into QV and Makati this afternoon for a drink.

Never seen so few guys on a Sunday afternoon. Spoke to a couple of D / H. Who were sad.

It must have been Mother's Day.

GF and me had some food in Cafe O. GF got dragged out by a guy. Quick sale.

The strangest things happen in Wanchai.And yet I think my helper got a guy today. I was taking my dirty clothes to the laundry bin after showering and when I looked down there were her panties sitting on top with a large splotch of what had to be dried semen on them. On the outside which is kind of weird but what else could it be?

Then again it may be a BF.

Chantik
05-14-12, 05:46
And yet I think my helper got a guy today. I was taking my dirty clothes to the laundry bin after showering and when I looked down there were her panties sitting on top with a large splotch of what had to be dried semen on them. On the outside which is kind of weird but what else could it be?

Then again it may be a BF.At least your helper goes out on her day off. And has some fun.

Let's hope you don't bump into her!

Kbkbal
05-14-12, 08:03
Yeah, and good on her. I always admire a successful entrepreneur! .


Don't know her, but I can say with certainty that she's making more money having sex than by working as a "journalist"! LOL.

Boarer
05-14-12, 08:56
GF and me popped into QV and Makati this afternoon for a drink.So which one, QV or OCH, has the pole and was it there the whole time? Forgot to check on Sunday as was in a hurry and walked right by.

Sexxy Starman
05-14-12, 09:39
Thanks. I learned a lot from the ISG, and hope learn more and go to new destinations.

I am new in the ISG and also new in the mongering scene (the maximum that I ever did was an escort here and there, all of it in the Americas). Anyway, now I am living in Mainland China, and will be going to my first trip to Hong Kong & Macau in the end of the month. 6 days in total (2 in Macau. 4 in HK).

I did a lot of RTFF in this last couple of days, a lot of escorts websites and about 40+ pages of the ISG. Now I know the services of the places, their location and price. But I still have a few questions in both areas but I will post them in their respective treads, I don't want to unorganized anything, so I hope this is the best way to do it. I don't intend to do any tourist stuff, only mongering.

Hong Kong:

This tread is similar to the one from that I posted in the Macau area, but with a few differences; I will arrive in Hong Kong night of 29/05 Tuesday, and will stay there until 03/06 (early morning, so, cannot enjoy the day)

The preferences are listed below (the same from the other tread). From the RTFF I did I got intrigued with the 148, 161, 141 and etc. Also K-pressure. 37 Dundas. Also Wanchai bars, like Neptune's and Escape. Also find Hari's and Temple Street very interesting (although Temple Street is not very famous for having Stunners, but just walk around will be fun enough). HK, also have much more High Level escorts websites.

- I have a preference for anal (me doing the deed, active, just to be clear. Anyway) , but I understand this is not very common in these parts of Asia.

- I also would like to 'get' a few Asians from: Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, Vietnam or Local (HK & Macau). The order of nationality is also my order of preference (from most wanted to least wanted). Thai, Philis, don't need, end of October I will go to these countries. Please, no Mainland Chinese, I know they are beautiful, but I live in Mainland, so I want some variety.

- I also like stunners, models, the pretty ones. 8 to 10 are the best possible grade for me.

So, after all of this explanation, which one (or two) of these places is better to fulfill my desires? Or maybe you guys have other suggestions?

Depending of your suggestion, could you point me a good hotel to move easily thru HK, I am not familiar with the area, so it will be a bit hard for me to go around, but the addresses for the places I listed earlier in the post are all carefully written. If the best possible scenario for me is to get a VIP escort, so just tell me a good 4/5 starts, easy to move from and to it.

Also what is the best time to go to these places, so I can get the models type? I know this question seems a bit troublesome, but I went back to the page number 50 and start going down (trying to get to number 1). I could only either some of them or the time that other members went, before my eyes got sore of all the reading. (I already got the time for the Temple Street, so don't need to worry about this one.)

PS. : I saved some money, so I am prepared to drop a few hundreds more for the 'extra mile'.

Thanks one more timeOn Sunday when you are in HK you can find an Indo stunner who likes anal. Actually I have found that the hotter Indos are quite into anal and Indos like it more generally than thais and Chinese. Many Indos like anal but won't admit this to you. So three things help with this: you should be reasonably good looking and have a bit of a selective mystique about you-not be an old fatty, the girl needs to like you AND trust you to give you anal, so you may need to take her more than once to get anal, and tequila of course always helps.

Kbkbal
05-14-12, 11:25
Wildhawk, have you ever been to Jakarta? If you love Indo girls you'll have died and gone to heaven. I've had some of the times of my life in Jak: BATS, CJs, Hotel Melawai, in-house hotel masseuses and a fair few civilians pulled in various bars. Just love them!


I neglected to mention in my posting of a few ago about a somewhat amusing conversation at NM I had with a fellow punter, youngish American who was proud of his Indonesian girlfriend who comes to his place for the constitutional blowjob. The proud fellow pulled out his phone and showed me a picture of Miss Y, know her well. I am a lousy poker player; cannot hold a lie. He could tell from the look on my face."Noooooooo!" Crestfallen glance. I tried to help the guy feel a little bit better about himself by lying, stating that, well, I really couldn't tell from the photograph, but that she was a lovely girl.

Note to self: Do not be that guy.

Subsequently saw Miss Y at NM and confirmed by asking about Mr. X. Look of surprise. She asked where I met him, to which I replied "this bar." "When? When you see him?" (sound of suspicion)."Well, I think he was looking for you" (lie). Got to help a brother out now and then. Even though I have had a couple of very nice times with Miss Y, including a day out for fun, her mentioning money first thing in reply of my request for a "date" kind of pissed me off."meeeyyyyaaa papa seeiiiiock and me needs money."

But I do wonder what benefits are conferred from having one of the hookers being your quote-unquote girlfriend. Is Mr. X getting hit up for money to help ailing papa and the family goat? Chantik, please help me out here.

And to that poster who paid $10K and did not even get a "model" at that price, what's up with that? Frankly, I'm starting to get jaded about the girls at Makati asking 1. 5K for two hours. Conceivable payment if I adore the girl, but probably not going to happen soon. Every time a take a pass on that is getting me three, perhaps four gogo girls in LOS. But I do love those ever-accommodating Indonesian girls. Outside of bed, however, is often a different story.

Kbkbal
05-14-12, 11:30
The "Yellow Sign" walk-ups in Mongkok generally have Russians / EEs in the HK$600. 800 range. They usually hang out in the street cafes until one of the YS places call them in for a job, so you could always trawl around Mongkers a bit and take a chance on a direct approach as well.


Where can you get affordable white girls in Hong Kong.

Lewis And Clark
05-14-12, 14:07
What do you think men, best bar to kick off your night in Wanchai?

I'm torn between Carnegie's and Delaney's until 9pm.

WildHawk
05-14-12, 14:46
Wildhawk, have you ever been to Jakarta? If you love Indo girls you'll have died and gone to heaven. I've had some of the times of my life in Jak: BATS, CJs, Hotel Melawai, in-house hotel masseuses and a fair few civilians pulled in various bars. Just love them!Fishing where there are fish, what a concept!

If you couldn't tell from my postings, I'm a slow learner, mentally challenged and all. I would go to Jakarta but I am told it is not much of a tourist destination. Perhaps a stopover on the way to Bali or another nice place there is called for. I do appreciate the country's finest export, in the meantime.

And Johnny Rocket ("I looked down there were her panties sitting on top with a large splotch of what had to be dried semen on them.") : I hope your DH is doing a better job of keeping your clothes clean than she with her own! And if she's working it, I would hope that she should have common sense and reconsider the barebacking / creampies. I wonder what percentage of, say girls in NM allow or encourage that? Actually scary to me. Part of it, I think, is the fatalistic attitute that these girls have, like if they get HIV they get HIV and that's just the way it is. The 25 year old I had last week said that it would be better if she were dead, and said it with conviction. (And having fucked me had NOTHING to do with her feeling, seriously, really, honest.)

Kbkbal
05-14-12, 14:56
It's not great as a "civilian" tourist spot but it's fantastic for being a naughty boy in. Perfect for a Friday to Monday visit (Monday for rnr.). If you're ever going drop me a PM and I'd be happy to offer advice.


Fishing where there are fish, what a concept!

If you couldn't tell from my postings, I'm a slow learner, mentally challenged and all. I would go to Jakarta but I am told it is not much of a tourist destination. Perhaps a stopover on the way to Bali or another nice place there is called for. I do appreciate the country's finest export, in the meantime.

Yhddude13
05-14-12, 14:56
Do you guys have experience with girls that cock block? I had a girl that I had been with a couple of times, but I have made it clear that I like my freedom and thats why I go to bars. I saw her at a bar and she was with a table of ladies. One or two were very interesting, but I got the feeling she froze me out. Do you think I am the cause or do women really do that? Any advice.

JackTheLad2
05-14-12, 17:20
What do you think men, best bar to kick off your night in Wanchai?

I'm torn between Carnegie's and Delaney's until 9pm.Don't rule out Joe Bananas as well. They have a "happy hour" that lasts until 10. 00pm

Chantik
05-14-12, 17:26
So which one, QV or OCH, has the pole and was it there the whole time? Forgot to check on Sunday as was in a hurry and walked right by.QV.

Pole was their at the opening in December 2010.

Chantik
05-14-12, 17:29
Would want to be out of Carnegies by 9pm on Tues / Wed / Sat before it is over-run by teenagers.

Think that L and C knows the bars in Wanchai.

Chantik
05-14-12, 17:32
Nighthawk.

Issue with non-use of condoms has nothing to do with disliking their life / job. At least 90% of D / H love HK.

It is more a case of no knowledge and maybe a small chance to get pregnant.

Some of the Indo girls don't even know that some drugs are illegal.

Boarer
05-14-12, 18:42
Nighthawk.

Issue with non-use of condoms has nothing to do with disliking their life / job. At least 90% of D / H love HK.

It is more a case of no knowledge and maybe a small chance to get pregnant.

Some of the Indo girls don't even know that some drugs are illegal.IMHO, it is the HKD they love and not HK.

I have not done my fair share of goodbye "visits" but it surprises me that the few I have done, the ladies are often willing to carry an extra package back, even if they are getting married. I just cannot fathom the reasoning to jeopardize so much for the sake of having a fairer skinned child; or so I am told. I just hope they were pulling my leg.

Chantik
05-14-12, 19:55
IMHO, it is the HKD they love and not HK.

I have not done my fair share of goodbye "visits" but it surprises me that the few I have done, the ladies are often willing to carry an extra package back, even if they are getting married. I just cannot fathom the reasoning to jeopardize so much for the sake of having a fairer skinned child; or so I am told. I just hope they were pulling my leg.

Ha Ha ha.

Certain you would rather get paid in HK Dollar VS Rupiah.

Hope they were pulling your leg with a raincoat!

I posted a few months ago that there is a growing number of Indonesian's getting pregnant to western men. Or wanting to get pregnant. Girls seem to think the man will look after them or more importantly get their baby a Western passport. There are girls in HK (indo D / H) who have three babies. All to different men. It is scary!

The going back to Indonesia pregnant. Easily solved. Girl's parents will arrange a marriage. Dowry included. And then no shame for family.

Lewis And Clark
05-14-12, 20:04
Ha Ha ha.

Certain you would rather get paid in HK Dollar VS Rupiah.

Hope they were pulling your leg with a raincoat!

I posted a few months ago that there is a growing number of Indonesian's getting pregnant to western men. Or wanting to get pregnant. Girls seem to think the man will look after them or more importantly get their baby a Western passport. There are girls in HK (indo D / H) who have three babies. All to different men. It is scary!

The going back to Indonesia pregnant. Easily solved. Girl's parents will arrange a marriage. Dowry included. And then no shame for family.Indo girls are amazing, looking forward to being with one again sometime.

WildHawk
05-15-12, 06:34
Nighthawk.

Issue with non-use of condoms has nothing to do with disliking their life / job. At least 90% of D / H love HK.

It is more a case of no knowledge and maybe a small chance to get pregnant.

Some of the Indo girls don't even know that some drugs are illegal.Really hate to disgress from issues of sex and focus on the potential result of such. This effort by the Indonesian girls to get pregnant sounds like something to be filed in the "endless cycle of poverty" bin to me. Would not want a child of mine, even if created via devious means, raised in the village.

I just cannot see how the pregnancy route is working out for them, particulary when they have no idea who the father is. There are enough compassionate suckers out willing to support some other guy's kid? In particular I am thinking of the DH I met last week who was willing to bareback. Gets around. Figure she discovers she's pregnant in several weeks, or months. What is the likelihood of sorting this out?

And not insubstantially, wouldn't this pregnancy cause some issues with employers / visas? Whew.

WildHawk
05-15-12, 06:49
Do you guys have experience with girls that cock block? I had a girl that I had been with a couple of times, but I have made it clear that I like my freedom and thats why I go to bars. I saw her at a bar and she was with a table of ladies. One or two were very interesting, but I got the feeling she froze me out. Do you think I am the cause or do women really do that? Any advice.Yhddude13:

It has happened to me, too, and I felt like a dork before realizing not to take ANYTHING that happens in the bars personally. Seriously, would you bank on the judgments / opinions of the girls you would find in Wan Chai. I am coming to the conclusion that, if anything, I am far too effin respectful to them. In fact, many of the girls seemed to be utterly chamed by the fellows who are acting like the biggest asses. Not my style, but that's the way many of the ladies like it. Suppose they like the confident man, asshole or no. (And don't get me wrong: if done artfully the showoff can sometimes even be amusing)

But I digress. With the friends giving you the could shoulder perhaps there's some kind of "face" issue involved where the original girl you have been with would look bad if you were to get the other.

You might just bide your time and end up seeing the girl you're interested in on her own.

In the end, I don't think that most of these girls are really "friends" in the real sense, and would sell their friend out in a New York second to get a client (I'm assuming you're talking about WGs here).

In my case, I initially was slightly upset (that being a relative term; there are just too many girls to even get worked up over one) that perhaps the girl I had been with may have told the friend that I wasn't a nice guy or some nonsense, but who knows.

You will encounter the most inexplicable behavior with these girls. I'm sure a good number of them are users. Very polite and friendly greetings can elicit a "fuck off" glare from the girls. It's their way of holding power, perhaps. Whatever. Give as well as you get and move on.

Le Grand
05-15-12, 07:33
As you said the third hole action is rare, especially in WGActually I had quite a bit of anal actions with WGs in HK. They can be find quite easily on the 161 site. You can search for them by services provided. Unfortunately, the search function only seems to work on the Chinese side of the site. If you can get someone who can read Chinese to help you, check the option as shown in the search form (garden in the back). I did a search just now and it listed almost 50 WGs that will do anal.

In general, anal will cost you $100 on top of the average of $300. $450. The pricing will clearly be spelled out in the WG's page. Note that there were a few occasions when the girls will refuse to let me take them in the butt after seeing the size of my cock, even though it is really just average in comparision what you typically see in porno flicks :-(

Le Grand
05-15-12, 08:16
After I made the previous post, I did a quick search on the web and found you can actually do english search on the miss 148 site. Services you can search for are: CIM, COF, Anal, AR, Role Play, SM and Overnight. Personally, while I have used 161 and 141 quite a few times, I have not tried miss 148 so cannot really comment on how good they are.

Chantik
05-15-12, 16:14
Wildhawk.

Your report is very accurate.

The only thing I will say about cock-block. Is that even in Thailand if a guy pays a bar fine. Then returns to the same bar to bar fine another girl. And some guys try to bar fine the whole bar over a period of time. Ladies will be unhappy. And sometimes refuse to go with the guy.

You mentioned about girls using. Much less of a problem now. Maybe 5 years ago it was one girl in 3. Think now it would be at least one girl in 10.

Kbkbal
05-16-12, 07:09
Some girls in Thailand are like that, but not all. For example, I've bar-fined five girls from Shark in Soi Cowboy on four different visits (a duo on one occasion). All the girls still work there. Whenever I go they come over to try to get me to take them out again and when I say I'm going to take someone else that night they pout and flounce off, but never try to stop me from taking that night's selection out nor does the new girl refuse out of "solidarity".

I guess it depends on the girls, the venue and your interaction with them. I'm always very caring and respectful with the girls. A couple of them with whom I've really hit it off have even stayed a couple of nights with me and I've taken them shopping etc but I've never led them on that it was going to be an ongoing thing or that I've "fallen in love with them" or any such bs. The girls respect that, even though one or two of them may act a little sulky.


Wildhawk.

Your report is very accurate.

The only thing I will say about cock-block. Is that even in Thailand if a guy pays a bar fine. Then returns to the same bar to bar fine another girl. And some guys try to bar fine the whole bar over a period of time. Ladies will be unhappy. And sometimes refuse to go with the guy.

You mentioned about girls using. Much less of a problem now. Maybe 5 years ago it was one girl in 3. Think now it would be at least one girl in 10.

Yhddude13
05-16-12, 15:12
Some girls in Thailand are like that, but not all. For example, I've bar-fined five girls from Shark in Soi Cowboy on four different visits (a duo on one occasion). All the girls still work there. Whenever I go they come over to try to get me to take them out again and when I say I'm going to take someone else that night they pout and flounce off, but never try to stop me from taking that night's selection out nor does the new girl refuse out of "solidarity".

I guess it depends on the girls, the venue and your interaction with them. I'm always very caring and respectful with the girls. A couple of them with whom I've really hit it off have even stayed a couple of nights with me and I've taken them shopping etc but I've never led them on that it was going to be an ongoing thing or that I've "fallen in love with them" or any such bs. The girls respect that, even though one or two of them may act a little sulky.I hear what you guys are saying. I am always very transparent since I tell the girls that I don't have a girlfriend, and don't want one, since I want my freedom to do as I please with whoever I please, as long as it pleases her. So, some of the girls then try to pawn me off on there girlfriends. But, sometimes, the friends stay away. There are plenty of girls, so I don't go home with my dick in my hand, but it was just something that came to my thoughts.

Chantik
05-16-12, 20:50
Quiet in Wanchai tonight. For a Wednesday night. Unless you wanted free drinks at Mes Amis or Carnegies.

Maybe some are waiting for the Makati Birthday party on Thursday.

Johnny Rocket
05-16-12, 21:57
Would want to be out of Carnegies by 9pm on Tues / Wed / Sat before it is over-run by teenagers.

Think that L and C knows the bars in Wanchai.Why Tuesday and Wednesday? Don't the teenagers have to be in school the next day?

FreebieFan
05-17-12, 02:02
I'm assuming that like many of us male travellers, my handcarry includes what I would call " my bag of tricks". Sometimes its in check in bag, but as I was on my way to Thailand via HK for a short trip, I only took handcarry. Have taken sadi bag thru numerous airports all over world and barely does it register, however HK airport recently, it certainly registered for a further inspection.

Did the normal transit thing in HK airport, and was asked by security to show the contents of my bags. Especially the contents of my bag of tricks. The young man in security opened it and looked and I swear he said " oh whats this ". He rummaged around and found a few of the vibrators that are in said bag (this trip only small ones, thank goodness I didn't have the 8 inch glass one filled with oil ). Sometimes they get used on ther ladies I meet.

He went thru all the condoms including laying them out on the counter. Me, I'm standing there smiling, watching this kid do his job.

He checked the Kamagra gel sachets. He checked that the vibrators all worked and checked the batteries. He checked the cock ring and whatever else was in the bag.

Then he checked the pc cable, and the camera charger cable.

After that he packed up everything and said I could go. I wished him a pleasant day, smiling that he probably had a story to tell his security mates at his next coffee break about some mad middle aged gweilo with sexual aids in his bags. Was quite funny altho one elderly matron standing behind me was clearly quite disgusted to see a table with condoms and vibrators on it at 8am. LOL

Sky Ryder
05-17-12, 11:04
I'm assuming that like many of us male travellers, my handcarry includes what I would call " my bag of tricks". Sometimes its in check in bag, but as I was on my way to Thailand via HK for a short trip, I only took handcarry. Have taken sadi bag thru numerous airports all over world and barely does it register, however HK airport recently, it certainly registered for a further inspection.

Did the normal transit thing in HK airport, and was asked by security to show the contents of my bags. Especially the contents of my bag of tricks. The young man in security opened it and looked and I swear he said " oh whats this ". He rummaged around and found a few of the vibrators that are in said bag (this trip only small ones, thank goodness I didn't have the 8 inch glass one filled with oil ). Sometimes they get used on ther ladies I meet.

He went thru all the condoms including laying them out on the counter. Me, I'm standing there smiling, watching this kid do his job.

He checked the Kamagra gel sachets. He checked that the vibrators all worked and checked the batteries. He checked the cock ring and whatever else was in the bag.

Then he checked the pc cable, and the camera charger cable.

After that he packed up everything and said I could go. I wished him a pleasant day, smiling that he probably had a story to tell his security mates at his next coffee break about some mad middle aged gweilo with sexual aids in his bags. Was quite funny altho one elderly matron standing behind me was clearly quite disgusted to see a table with condoms and vibrators on it at 8am. LOLHeck, IMHO,

It was worth the hassles, just to irritate some "elderly matron" who was just pissed off that she hadn't had said instruments used on her in so long she had forgotten! And here you are off to satisfy your desires with who knows how many nubile young lasses. Sounds like she was more jealous than disgusted! Rightly so!

Chantik
05-17-12, 13:43
Many of the guys carry separate memory sticks. That they keep in their possession. Seems a safe thing to do.

Not much you can do about condoms / kamagra etc.

Chantik
05-17-12, 13:44
For the guys. Noticed an add on CL. Guess it was a local woman. Stated no Wanchai guys.

Don't blame me!

WildHawk
05-17-12, 14:21
[QUOTE=Chantik; 1282018]. The Makati Birthday party on Thursday. [/QUOT.

I made a point of dropping by after work, but did not know that it was an "invitation only" event. They advertised it quite heavily, and as NM ain't exactly a velvet-rope joint that Diddy or whatever the fuck he calls himself now is hangin' out in.

Lord knows how that guest list was compiled, but I am sure that the A-list of Hong Kong (Jackie Chan, Eason Chan, Edison Chan and the Twins, the new administrative leader) were inside. As I am not a VIP or a VI. WG I was left on the sidewalk to sulk. This, my friends I will remember. I have been comped by far finer organizations (Ritz-Carlton, Raffles, Shangri-La, this much is true) so to feel left out by one of the finer seedy establishments had an extra sting to it; particularly since I have probably dropped $5000HK on drinks there in recent months. Wildhawk will be holding a grudge. LOL. In the end, I figure I saved $ that would have filled its tills after the 9 pm free drinks ended.

And as for its shrimpy manager, for the life of me I cannot understand how his English can be so shitty after his having worked there for each of the bar's 22 years? I will say that the bar staff is friendly enough. (And on a positive note, I would regard Joe Bananas' crew as being A+. Wildhawk isn't always a meanie.)

AmericanThief
05-17-12, 16:40
Guys sorry this ins't sex related but I really need to open a Hong kong bank account but I don't live in HK.

Can this be done? Any ideas?

WildHawk
05-17-12, 18:01
He checked that the vibrators all worked and checked the batteries. He checked the cock ring and whatever else was in the bag.Hilarious. But, really, we must commend this thorough work. Security / policework is not always so concerned in this part of the world. A few weeks ago sort of intervened as a Chinese jerk was assaulting his woman while two idiot HK coppers stood by, doing nothing.

And as far as the airport, you just never know what those Al Qaida motherfuckers will think of next. They'd hide them in their arses if they could.

WildHawk
05-17-12, 18:06
Guys sorry this ins't sex related but I really need to open a Hong kong bank account but I don't live in HK.

Can this be done? Any ideas?Dear Clyde: We will only give advice if you write up about your sexual experiences with Bonnie.

You will most likely need a local mailing address (and that's probably about it). Other than that, you should have no problem. If you are planning to deposit a large amount there could be an issue. And the USA government recently issued a ruling that banks must report holdings of more than $10, 000 US, a pain in the ass that could cause some banks to balk in the future.

JackTheLad2
05-17-12, 19:20
Guys sorry this ins't sex related but I really need to open a Hong kong bank account but I don't live in HK.

Can this be done? Any ideas?A couple of years ago I won some money at Happy Valley in HK and wanted to open a bank account in HK and leave it for my next visit. Was not allowed as I did not have a permanent address in HK. Doubt if things have changed. Its all to do with money laundering.

Chantik
05-17-12, 19:55
Bank Account.

Need a mailing address.

Would not use HSBC. Often need a a current bank account holder to provide a letter, sometimes ask for bill details (eg; gas, electricity) , copy of lease agreement.

Try other banks and best to open in places like Wanchai / Central / tst etc. Seems to be less drama.

Good luck

Chantik
05-17-12, 20:01
NM Birthday Party.

Must support Nighthawk and the story about invitations.

NM was packed. More men than women. Seriously only about 50% of the guys were regular attendees at Makati. Don't know how the other guys gained admission. These guys were easy to spot. The guys carrying three beers in their hands. Wonder how many will be back in NM?

Funny story.

Was chatting with my GF. And these 2 guys in front of us were looking at pics of a girl on a phone. Regular pics . The girl in question sometimes advertises on CL. My friend and I had a laugh.

AmericanThief
05-18-12, 00:21
Thanks for the advice. If you want to read about my exploits you might want to google me and look for some of my True Stories.

They were popular last year but I' ve been too busy to write anymore.

AmericanThief
05-18-12, 01:55
Is there anyway to get a Hong Kong address? Would I have to rent a room for a month or stay in a guest home and use that address to receive post from the bank and then show them that proof?

Beijing Lover
05-18-12, 03:13
Is there anyway to get a Hong Kong address? Would I have to rent a room for a month or stay in a guest home and use that address to receive post from the bank and then show them that proof?Just use a serviced appartment. There plenty all over HK.

Ramn HK
05-18-12, 03:15
A buddy of mine tried this some time back. Even though he was an ex Hong Kong resident, has a residential address in Hong Kong where he stays when he comes here, the bank insisted on "proof of address". Regular mail does not count as proof of address. You would need to submit a utility bill, bank statement, etc. To satisfy the bank's requirement.


Is there anyway to get a Hong Kong address? Would I have to rent a room for a month or stay in a guest home and use that address to receive post from the bank and then show them that proof?

Mreaton
05-18-12, 03:44
I'm assuming that like many of us male travellers, my handcarry includes what I would call " my bag of tricks". Sometimes its in check in bag, but as I was on my way to Thailand via HK for a short trip, I only took handcarry. Have taken sadi bag thru numerous airports all over world and barely does it register, however HK airport recently, it certainly registered for a further inspection.

Did the normal transit thing in HK airport, and was asked by security to show the contents of my bags. Especially the contents of my bag of tricks. The young man in security opened it and looked and I swear he said " oh whats this ". He rummaged around and found a few of the vibrators that are in said bag (this trip only small ones, thank goodness I didn't have the 8 inch glass one filled with oil ). Sometimes they get used on ther ladies I meet.

He went thru all the condoms including laying them out on the counter. Me, I'm standing there smiling, watching this kid do his job.

He checked the Kamagra gel sachets. He checked that the vibrators all worked and checked the batteries. He checked the cock ring and whatever else was in the bag.

Then he checked the pc cable, and the camera charger cable.

After that he packed up everything and said I could go. I wished him a pleasant day, smiling that he probably had a story to tell his security mates at his next coffee break about some mad middle aged gweilo with sexual aids in his bags. Was quite funny altho one elderly matron standing behind me was clearly quite disgusted to see a table with condoms and vibrators on it at 8am. LOLHilarious. You can always request that they screen your baggage in private.

WildHawk
05-18-12, 04:45
NM Birthday Party.

My friend and I had a laugh.Hope you had a good time, Chantik (and with the odds in your favor, must've been) hobnobbing with the creme de la creme of Hong Kong society.

Being Hong Kong, I wasn't really surprised, about the invitations bit, and being rejected at the door. Still, I was perturbed because I had asked a couple of the bar staff recently about the party, when the free drinks were, etc. They said, come at 7 to 9 (and mentioned that you could only have "one drink at a time," so apparently there must have been some violators getting the short manager's undies in a bundle). Nothing was said about needing to be on a list. Conceivable they didn't know, but sheesh.

And more than anything, I just don't care much for the attitude of the manager. Not recognizing a regular, and one who tips his staff decently as well. Plenty of places to hang out in Hong Kong, and I intend to get out more. If nothing else, so as to not become a "Wan Chai regular" and get in Chantik's good graces, LOL.

Kbkbal
05-18-12, 05:22
I think you can. Hong Kong is an open economy. Although the international banks will be more careful with their KYC procedures, you may have a better chance with HSBC or Standard Chartered, who will be more used to having international clients.


Guys sorry this ins't sex related but I really need to open a Hong kong bank account but I don't live in HK.

Can this be done? Any ideas?

Chantik
05-18-12, 13:50
Hope you had a good time, Chantik (and with the odds in your favor, must've been) hobnobbing with the creme de la creme of Hong Kong society.

Being Hong Kong, I wasn't really surprised, about the invitations bit, and being rejected at the door. Still, I was perturbed because I had asked a couple of the bar staff recently about the party, when the free drinks were, etc. They said, come at 7 to 9 (and mentioned that you could only have "one drink at a time," so apparently there must have been some violators getting the short manager's undies in a bundle). Nothing was said about needing to be on a list. Conceivable they didn't know, but sheesh.

And more than anything, I just don't care much for the attitude of the manager. Not recognizing a regular, and one who tips his staff decently as well. Plenty of places to hang out in Hong Kong, and I intend to get out more. If nothing else, so as to not become a "Wan Chai regular" and get in Chantik's good graces, LOL.Seriously.

Don't know how half the guys got in!

Will never see them again.

There is usually a large group of HK people (business partners / relatives) at the NM Birthday party. Probably only about 10 this time.

Think you will still go to NM. It has the best pussy.

WildHawk
05-18-12, 14:49
Seriously.

Think you will still go to NM. It has the best pussy.You're probably riiiiiiiiighhh. No, no, eerruuuuuurmph. I mean, I really can't say that I know the place.

AussieDoug
05-18-12, 15:08
Guys sorry this ins't sex related but I really need to open a Hong kong bank account but I don't live in HK.

Can this be done? Any ideas?Ask your own bank, back where you actually live, to give you a letter of introduction addressed to HSBC, something along the lines of "we introduce our customer Mr. Bum Shagger who wishes to establish an account in Hong Kong". Assuming you are from Amelica use one of the larger banks that may have a correspondent relationship with HSBC, only so as the HSBC staff recognise the name of the bank and just get on with it. They will not readily recognise any saving & loan type banks or purely state banks, all of those put all their international payments thru JP Morgan or Citi etc. Make a small deposit in cash first and then follow up with any larger amount you want. You will not be able to make a cheque deposit as a first deposit.

AmericanThief
05-19-12, 01:38
Ask your own bank, back where you actually live, to give you a letter of introduction addressed to HSBC, something along the lines of "we introduce our customer Mr. Bum Shagger who wishes to establish an account in Hong Kong". Assuming you are from Amelica use one of the larger banks that may have a correspondent relationship with HSBC, only so as the HSBC staff recognise the name of the bank and just get on with it. They will not readily recognise any saving & loan type banks or purely state banks, all of those put all their international payments thru JP Morgan or Citi etc. Make a small deposit in cash first and then follow up with any larger amount you want. You will not be able to make a cheque deposit as a first deposit.That's a very good idea but I live in Korea, however I do have an account with Standard Chartered. There must be a way to do this like you said, except the employees freak out every time I need something because the can't speak English and they're actually on a working strike right now. I had such a hard time getting a USA Money order once I don't want to go back, but you idea is worth a try.

Cheers

Uncle Goober
05-19-12, 02:42
I live in Korea, however I do have an account with Standard Chartered. There must be a way to do thisGo to a StanChart branch here in HK, see a customer relations officer and ask them. They will speak good English and be well trained. Explain you have an SCB account in Korea. Give them the details. They can check online. Then they will tell you what if anything can be done to open an account here in HK. That is likely to yield you more accurate answers that getting board members to speculate.

Cheers

Tiger 888
05-19-12, 05:17
That's a very good idea but I live in Korea, however I do have an account with Standard Chartered. There must be a way to do this like you said, except the employees freak out every time I need something because the can't speak English and they're actually on a working strike right now. I had such a hard time getting a USA Money order once I don't want to go back, but you idea is worth a try.

CheersI believe you would need to go to HSBC in Korea to open an account with HSBC in Hong Kong. But if you do not have a premier relationship with them the fee for that should be at least 200 USD.

WildHawk
05-19-12, 07:28
I don't know if my postings have any readership, as financiers have commandeered the place.

After having been rebuffed the night before, the siren call of Indonesian snatch pulled me back to Wan Chai. Some personal disturbing trends must be reported. First, the manager at New Makati acknowledges my presence and apologizes for having turned me away Thursday. Second,"Lulu" remembers my name. These are steps 1a and 1b on the hellpath to "Wan Chai regular," and I am uncomfortable. But before that membership card is minted.

New Makati was quite crowded by 10:30, sadly with too much sausage. But the vibe was good, the girls largely friendly. I dithered a bit too much and watched as one or two things of potential prey were snatched up by fellow punters. Sometimes you've got to act quickly. And don't assume that you will always see the same girls when you return. I regret not taking a gorgeous Balinese girl, and the skinny, smilling little flapper girl (with the bob haircut). The latter has probably eloped with her lesbian lover, who would often sit in a corner booth and sulk as her girl flirted with the dudes.

Miss Y, whom I have enjoyed previously and who is the "girlfriend" of Mr. X mentioned in a previous post, entered. I mentioned to her that I do not understand why she has been giving me the cold shoulder (well, the reason I know is that she knows I'm a butterfly) , not quite to the point of being rude. It is irritating when Miss Y and her "drinks only" friend pulled up nearby to their usual parking spot, which I have occupied (standing with my beer watching the dancefloor and talking with some known WC Regulars) and I get this brushoff. I don't want to overanalyze this, but we all know the game. I don't give off any impression to fellow punters that she's occupied, so can't quite understand the mindset. Unfortunately, Miss Y would occupy a little more of my headspace, as Mr. X was holding court in the back of the bar with a male friend.

Warned Miss Y that her "boyfriend" was in the bar (just in case she would like to act more reserved than usual; to her credit, she holds herself very well and keeps the sluttiness for the bedroom. I reminded her that Mr. X does not know that I happen to know her. Miss Y told me that she knows he's there. So far, so good. Forward about a half hour and I see Mr. X holding his stomach."My ex just punched me in the stomach. No really, really hard." I laughed, but the fellow was in discomfort and upset. He left, as I did shortly after.

Schelpped over to Neptune II, just to see what's going on. I was talking with an attractive Thai WG when my phone buzzed; had no idea who it was (I had purged Miss Y from contacts) and I rushed up the steps to speak on the phone. Sure enough, it was Miss Y yapping off on how she "loves that man," yada. I tell her that 1) hitting somebody (didn't mention that he had told me about the dick-biting episode of a week or two earlier) is not a good thing."You are a Wan Chai girl and he is a Wan Chai guy. You go to the bars, he goes to the bars. (Ergo, you go to the bars not to be together. But this bit of reasoning is probably beyond the mental capacity)." Miss Y tells me that I should text or call her if I should see Mr. X."No. I'm not your policeman. And please don't contact me about this. Take it up with your 'boyfriend. '"

The point? Don't be that guy. Or girl, if there are any other ladies reading these (besides Chantik, who is far too intelligent to fall into this trap).

Back to moi. At Nep II enjoyed good conversation with a couple of Italian guys, great company. One fellow, a WCR, has definitely got game. We assessed the talent; I tried to teach a WG how to do the "YMCA" and a fairly decent time ensued. By that point a girl I had seen at NM decided to perch herself next to me."Looking for my friend." She was hardly the prettiest girl, but had a nice smile nevertheless. Did not beg for a drink (I should have been a gentleman and bought, but I really didn't want to give her any encouragement). After I while I inquired about her friend, who had left and with her the password to the boarding house. Her plan was to wait until her friend should show up to get back in the room. (I'd say the lady was mid-30s at the oldest, definitely a DH dabbling in the trade with minimal success; again, not unattractive but simply not competitive in a tough field).

She asks where I live and I reply that it is not far, and near her boardinghouse. She immediately recommended that she accompany me home. I tell her that I had no plans to pay for sex that evening (a baldfaced lie, excepting for her) , but she was welcome to stay and that there would be no sex unless she wanted it. We know how that works out. In Wan Chai, not mainland China anyhoo.

Turns out that she's a Filipina who had recently arrived. Miss M, I'll call her, though it is the most common female name in the Phils. (An aside: Why do Filipinos saddle their daughters with such boring, shitty Catholic names. And more on the Catholic later? It pains me to see a Mary Agnes Gertrude on a smoking hot little lass. Criminal.)

Back to the one-room, crappy flat I rent (expensive for what I get) it was immediate teeth-brushing and sleepy time. She asked which side she should sleep on and I drew an imaginary line. She got in bed clothed; I asked permission to sleep in underwear, being the gentlemen. I gently rubbed her and asked whether it was OK. Looked promising, I thought. Kissed and cuddled some more before she said,"Need sleep." OK, that was the deal, so I moved a few inches away and pretended to sleep. Well, within 10 minutes she took her pants off. Game on.

Her body made up for a shortcoming in facial features. Decent, firm breasts, solid body and no signs of childbearing (though at her age it would be unusual that she didn't already have a pack of kids back home; ultimately did not discuss). Though she did a bit of a hatchet job on the shaving of the pussy, it was very nice. Amazingly tasty, and a good thing because Wildcat loves DATY. Loves it loves it loves it. Now here's where the Catholicism entered the picture. As I feasted on her pussy she pulled away avery time she was about to climax. Probably three times. I tell her to enjoy it."Come, you love it." I got her to ride my face and she clearly liked it. But just couldn't bring herself to full enjoyment. Finally she said that she would come with me inside her.

I told that you never know how that turns out that you should go with the sure thing. So anyway I brought my cock up to her mouth. She hesitated, sucked a couple of times and then said,"I don't like." By that point I was not surprised, so slipped on the condom and entered MISH, which was nice but short as she tried to get me to finish quickly. Brother, but I did accommodate that request because the look on her face was of patience being lost.

So, after a quick rinsing off we both slept a couple hours. Her alarm went off, and within three minutes she was out the door. (I handed her a hundred HK for food or whatever; sure I'll get flamed as being either a cheapskate or an overspender. But that was the arrangement). No phone numbers exchanged (just as well) , though I'm sure she knows where to find me. Perhaps the larger lesson is that if the Filipina is not all too pleased, that perhaps she will not become a stalker. Let's hope.

Lewis And Clark
05-19-12, 13:13
I don't know if my postings have any readership, as financiers have commandeered the place.

After having been rebuffed the night before, the siren call of Indonesian snatch pulled me back to Wan Chai. Some personal disturbing trends must be reported. First, the manager at New Makati acknowledges my presence and apologizes for having turned me away Thursday. Second,"Lulu" remembers my name. These are steps 1a and 1b on the hellpath to "Wan Chai regular," and I am uncomfortable. But before that membership card is minted.

New Makati was quite crowded by 10:30, sadly with too much sausage. But the vibe was good, the girls largely friendly. I dithered a bit too much and watched as one or two things of potential prey were snatched up by fellow punters. Sometimes you've got to act quickly. And don't assume that you will always see the same girls when you return. I regret not taking a gorgeous Balinese girl, and the skinny, smilling little flapper girl (with the bob haircut). The latter has probably eloped with her lesbian lover, who would often sit in a corner booth and sulk as her girl flirted with the dudes.

Miss Y, whom I have enjoyed previously and who is the "girlfriend" of Mr. X mentioned in a previous post, entered. I mentioned to her that I do not understand why she has been giving me the cold shoulder (well, the reason I know is that she knows I'm a butterfly) , not quite to the point of being rude. It is irritating when Miss Y and her "drinks only" friend pulled up nearby to their usual parking spot, which I have occupied (standing with my beer watching the dancefloor and talking with some known WC Regulars) and I get this brushoff. I don't want to overanalyze this, but we all know the game. I don't give off any impression to fellow punters that she's occupied, so can't quite understand the mindset. Unfortunately, Miss Y would occupy a little more of my headspace, as Mr. X was holding court in the back of the bar with a male friend.

Warned Miss Y that her "boyfriend" was in the bar (just in case she would like to act more reserved than usual; to her credit, she holds herself very well and keeps the sluttiness for the bedroom. I reminded her that Mr. X does not know that I happen to know her. Miss Y told me that she knows he's there. So far, so good. Forward about a half hour and I see Mr. X holding his stomach."My ex just punched me in the stomach. No really, really hard." I laughed, but the fellow was in discomfort and upset. He left, as I did shortly after.

Schelpped over to Neptune II, just to see what's going on. I was talking with an attractive Thai WG when my phone buzzed; had no idea who it was (I had purged Miss Y from contacts) and I rushed up the steps to speak on the phone. Sure enough, it was Miss Y yapping off on how she "loves that man," yada. I tell her that 1) hitting somebody (didn't mention that he had told me about the dick-biting episode of a week or two earlier) is not a good thing."You are a Wan Chai girl and he is a Wan Chai guy. You go to the bars, he goes to the bars. (Ergo, you go to the bars not to be together. But this bit of reasoning is probably beyond the mental capacity)." Miss Y tells me that I should text or call her if I should see Mr. X."No. I'm not your policeman. And please don't contact me about this. Take it up with your 'boyfriend. '"

The point? Don't be that guy. Or girl, if there are any other ladies reading these (besides Chantik, who is far too intelligent to fall into this trap).

Back to moi. At Nep II enjoyed good conversation with a couple of Italian guys, great company. One fellow, a WCR, has definitely got game. We assessed the talent; I tried to teach a WG how to do the "YMCA" and a fairly decent time ensued. By that point a girl I had seen at NM decided to perch herself next to me."Looking for my friend." She was hardly the prettiest girl, but had a nice smile nevertheless. Did not beg for a drink (I should have been a gentleman and bought, but I really didn't want to give her any encouragement). After I while I inquired about her friend, who had left and with her the password to the boarding house. Her plan was to wait until her friend should show up to get back in the room. (I'd say the lady was mid-30s at the oldest, definitely a DH dabbling in the trade with minimal success; again, not unattractive but simply not competitive in a tough field).

She asks where I live and I reply that it is not far, and near her boardinghouse. She immediately recommended that she accompany me home. I tell her that I had no plans to pay for sex that evening (a baldfaced lie, excepting for her) , but she was welcome to stay and that there would be no sex unless she wanted it. We know how that works out. In Wan Chai, not mainland China anyhoo.

Turns out that she's a Filipina who had recently arrived. Miss M, I'll call her, though it is the most common female name in the Phils. (An aside: Why do Filipinos saddle their daughters with such boring, shitty Catholic names. And more on the Catholic later? It pains me to see a Mary Agnes Gertrude on a smoking hot little lass. Criminal.)

Back to the one-room, crappy flat I rent (expensive for what I get) it was immediate teeth-brushing and sleepy time. She asked which side she should sleep on and I drew an imaginary line. She got in bed clothed; I asked permission to sleep in underwear, being the gentlemen. I gently rubbed her and asked whether it was OK. Looked promising, I thought. Kissed and cuddled some more before she said,"Need sleep." OK, that was the deal, so I moved a few inches away and pretended to sleep. Well, within 10 minutes she took her pants off. Game on.

Her body made up for a shortcoming in facial features. Decent, firm breasts, solid body and no signs of childbearing (though at her age it would be unusual that she didn't already have a pack of kids back home; ultimately did not discuss). Though she did a bit of a hatchet job on the shaving of the pussy, it was very nice. Amazingly tasty, and a good thing because Wildcat loves DATY. Loves it loves it loves it. Now here's where the Catholicism entered the picture. As I feasted on her pussy she pulled away avery time she was about to climax. Probably three times. I tell her to enjoy it."Come, you love it." I got her to ride my face and she clearly liked it. But just couldn't bring herself to full enjoyment. Finally she said that she would come with me inside her.

I told that you never know how that turns out that you should go with the sure thing. So anyway I brought my cock up to her mouth. She hesitated, sucked a couple of times and then said,"I don't like." By that point I was not surprised, so slipped on the condom and entered MISH, which was nice but short as she tried to get me to finish quickly. Brother, but I did accommodate that request because the look on her face was of patience being lost.

So, after a quick rinsing off we both slept a couple hours. Her alarm went off, and within three minutes she was out the door. (I handed her a hundred HK for food or whatever; sure I'll get flamed as being either a cheapskate or an overspender. But that was the arrangement). No phone numbers exchanged (just as well) , though I'm sure she knows where to find me. Perhaps the larger lesson is that if the Filipina is not all too pleased, that perhaps she will not become a stalker. Let's hope.Great report Wildhawk. Have seen the diminutive manager at NM several times from afar, does not have a good energy surrounding him. Working hard to keep some big sharks off his back methinks.

WildHawk
05-20-12, 05:11
Great report Wildhawk. Have seen the diminutive manager at NM several times from afar, does not have a good energy surrounding him. Working hard to keep some big sharks off his back methinks.

L&C, I'm sure that's a factor (and anybody dealing with commercial leasing in HK is dealing with sharks to some degree).
I will say that the little guy at NM does seem to have a good rapport with the girls and (excepting his indifference to customers) a keen business sense. Wise enough to know that if the girls are happy, they hit that bar. The girls come, the guys come. A lack of girls is the death knell of the Wan Chai bars (outside the yuppier joints that also serve food). Look at Boracay, Nep III. Few girls, fewer customers.

Chantik
05-20-12, 06:56
L&C, I'm sure that's a factor (and anybody dealing with commercial leasing in HK is dealing with sharks to some degree).

I will say that the little guy at NM does seem to have a good rapport with the girls and (excepting his indifference to customers) a keen business sense. Wise enough to know that if the girls are happy, they hit that bar. The girls come, the guys come. A lack of girls is the death knell of the Wan Chai bars (outside the yuppier joints that also serve food). Look at Boracay, Nep III. Few girls, fewer customers.Yes. The small manager at NM has good rapport with the girls. Somw would say too much rapport. But the security guys do best.

And don't forget the free drinks at NM. Can't beat that.

Tommyh80
05-20-12, 18:54
Finally I have made made up my mind, and I will go to Hong Kong and stay there for five days. The two first days I wil stay at Metropark Hotel Wanchai, and extend if the hotel and area is ok. I will be coming from Bangkok, and it will be exciting to party and have fun with other than thai girls!

You guys think 5 days should be enough for the first time, before I head back (hopefully with my balls empty) to Thailand?

Chantik
05-20-12, 18:59
Right in the middle of the action. Won't need to travel far to find action. You may not make it far from your hotel.

Warning. HK is more expensive than Thailand.

Tommyh80
05-20-12, 19:24
Right in the middle of the action. Won't need to travel far to find action. You may not make it far from your hotel.

Warning. HK is more expensive than Thailand.I have RTFF, and it seems like bringing a girl to my room for a shorttime costs between 500-800 HKD, and longtime 1000-1500 HKG. Am I right?

I will also try 141-girls, and there seems to be a building filled with 141-girls near my hotel.

WildHawk
05-20-12, 20:33
Finally I have made made up my mind, and I will go to Hong Kong and stay there for five days. The two first days I wil stay at Metropark Hotel Wanchai, and extend if the hotel and area is ok. I will be coming from Bangkok, and it will be exciting to party and have fun with other than thai girls!

You guys think 5 days should be enough for the first time, before I head back (hopefully with my balls empty) to Thailand?5 is perhaps too many days (unless you really really really like the Wan Chai bar scene; other than that HK is, to me, fairly dull. Yes, you can monger in Kowloon, take your chances with the 141 site girls. But. You should definitely consider a trip to Macau for a day or 1. 5 days or 2, to experience Darling 2 (a Thai-style fishbowl) .18 or Rio Sauna, check out the absurd Lisboa racetrack. If nothing else, Macau is a change of pace, with the Portuguese influence and a good day's worth or tourism. If you've got a Chinese visa, HK is about an hour away from Changping, with its notorious KTV parties (I I recommend Big Swingin' Dave, on the ISG classifieds (check China: Dongguan posts). Have a great trip!

BionicMan
05-20-12, 23:23
5 is perhaps too many days (unless you really really really like the Wan Chai bar scene; other than that HK is, to me, fairly dull. Yes, you can monger in Kowloon, take your chances with the 141 site girls. But. You should definitely consider a trip to Macau for a day or 1. 5 days or 2, to experience Darling 2 (a Thai-style fishbowl) .18 or Rio Sauna, check out the absurd Lisboa racetrack. If nothing else, Macau is a change of pace, with the Portuguese influence and a good day's worth or tourism. If you've got a Chinese visa, HK is about an hour away from Changping, with its notorious KTV parties (I I recommend Big Swingin' Dave, on the ISG classifieds (check China: Dongguan posts). Have a great trip!I fully agree. After a few days in BKK, HK is worth a couple of days to taste some Philippina and Indonesian. Not much more. Spending 2 days / nights in Macau is a good recommendation. One can taste some Chinese pussy or Vietnamese.. Costs are a bit higher tho' when using a sauna vs Wanchai providers for LT. But it is an experience one cannot miss. As Chantikmsaid, BKK is by far cheaper so, account for that and for your HK expectations and budget.

Switched
05-21-12, 08:03
5 is perhaps too many days (unless you really really really like the Wan Chai bar scene; other than that HK is, to me, fairly dull. Yes, you can monger in Kowloon, take your chances with the 141 site girls. But. You should definitely consider a trip to Macau for a day or 1. 5 days or 2, to experience Darling 2 (a Thai-style fishbowl) .18 or Rio Sauna, check out the absurd Lisboa racetrack. If nothing else, Macau is a change of pace, with the Portuguese influence and a good day's worth or tourism. If you've got a Chinese visa, HK is about an hour away from Changping, with its notorious KTV parties (I I recommend Big Swingin' Dave, on the ISG classifieds (check China: Dongguan posts). Have a great trip!Definitely agree, except I'd like to add that those 2 days really need to be Saturday And Sunday if you want to experience the Wanchai bar scene, and the earlier in the afternoon the better.

Tommyh80
05-21-12, 16:37
5 is perhaps too many days (unless you really really really like the Wan Chai bar scene; other than that HK is, to me, fairly dull. Yes, you can monger in Kowloon, take your chances with the 141 site girls. But. You should definitely consider a trip to Macau for a day or 1. 5 days or 2, to experience Darling 2 (a Thai-style fishbowl) .18 or Rio Sauna, check out the absurd Lisboa racetrack. If nothing else, Macau is a change of pace, with the Portuguese influence and a good day's worth or tourism. If you've got a Chinese visa, HK is about an hour away from Changping, with its notorious KTV parties (I I recommend Big Swingin' Dave, on the ISG classifieds (check China: Dongguan posts). Have a great trip!Thanks, Macau look nice, and it looks like people from Scandinavia don't need a visa also. Macau here I cum!

Tommyh80
05-21-12, 17:18
Definitely agree, except I'd like to add that those 2 days really need to be Saturday And Sunday if you want to experience the Wanchai bar scene, and the earlier in the afternoon the better.Ok, then I should head to Macau when I arrive in Hong Kong Wednesday afternoon, and then go to Hong Kong on Friday or Saturday afternoon, and stay there until Monday.

Chantik
05-21-12, 17:52
I have RTFF, and it seems like bringing a girl to my room for a shorttime costs between 500-800 HKD, and longtime 1000-1500 HKG. Am I right?

I will also try 141-girls, and there seems to be a building filled with 141-girls near my hotel.Unless it is a Sat / Sun afternoon D / H you won't get 500. Expect to pay more. This is talking about Wanchai bars.

What you need to factor in. Is how much money you spend in the bar first. So Girl A says 1000=short time, Girl B says 800=short time. But you have already spent 500 to 100 in the bar. Option B can be more expensive.

This can also apply to long time sessions.

Chantik
05-21-12, 17:57
Ok, then I should head to Macau when I arrive in Hong Kong Wednesday afternoon, and then go to Hong Kong on Friday or Saturday afternoon, and stay there until Monday.Probably best to go to Macau on Thursday morning. Have first night in Hk. Then back to HK Fri afternoon / Sat morning.

Royalpardesi2001
05-21-12, 18:46
Hi Experienced Mongers!

I have not seen any reports about KTV in mongkok and jordan. How do they work. What to expect and how are the girls there.

Regards,

Rocky

Osuul
05-21-12, 21:15
Probably best to go to Macau on Thursday morning. Have first night in Hk. Then back to HK Fri afternoon / Sat morning.Weekday rates for hotels are usualy lower then weekends due to HK and Mainland tourists.

Switched
05-21-12, 21:20
Weekday rates for hotels are usualy lower then weekends due to HK and Mainland tourists.The same could be said for HK hotels.

FWIW, I'd be going to Macau on the Wednesday. You can get a ferry direct from HKIA or may even be able to get a flight straight into Macau (depending on where you are coming from).

Tommyh80
05-22-12, 17:52
The same could be said for HK hotels.

FWIW, I'd be going to Macau on the Wednesday. You can get a ferry direct from HKIA or may even be able to get a flight straight into Macau (depending on where you are coming from).I thought about that also, but I want to have the first night in Hong Kong, and then I will go to Macau Thursday and stay until Friday or Saturday.

BionicMan
05-22-12, 22:21
may even be able to get a flight straight into Macau (depending on where you are coming from).I don't know the reason but il have seen a lot of Macau flights from BKK being canceled during the last 12 months.

Better take the HKIA option and its Ferry.

Fast Eddie 48
05-23-12, 07:18
I don't know the reason but il have seen a lot of Macau flights from BKK being canceled during the last 12 months.

Better take the HKIA option and its Ferry.Bionicman,

Most small airline like Seaair and Tigerair cancel alot of their flight if they cannot fill their plane to 75% they lose money high fuel cost, I try to get a flight last minute from Manila or Clark to Macau on Cebu Pacific want 8000 peso, almost 200 USD one way. Ouch, because most other airline either out of buisness or cancel the route.

Fast Eddie 48

Yhddude13
05-23-12, 17:31
Unless it is a Sat / Sun afternoon D / H you won't get 500. Expect to pay more. This is talking about Wanchai bars.

What you need to factor in. Is how much money you spend in the bar first. So Girl A says 1000=short time, Girl B says 800=short time. But you have already spent 500 to 100 in the bar. Option B can be more expensive.

This can also apply to long time sessions.So, you agree that a D / H that is out at night should be priced the same as any other bargirl?

WildHawk
05-23-12, 18:15
So, you agree that a D / H that is out at night should be priced the same as any other bargirl?The reality is that on most evenings, outside Saturday afternoon to Sunday early evening-ish is that those "domestic helpers" are more "working girl" helpers" and really expect to paid paid closer to the WG rate. I'd adjust up from the HK $500 to more like $800, even when they are of the "up to you" mold. At least, if you are considering a repeat. This is kind of hard to tell for those who don't know the talent from a weekend afternoon to the more mercenary set (much to be recommended) sets.

But for the slight difference in price you might enjoy an upgrade in experience, as I'd recommend a New Makati regular over a dabbler who won't suck cock (watch out for he Filipinas, they have become notorious of late here, for example.

Chantik
05-23-12, 21:02
So, you agree that a D / H that is out at night should be priced the same as any other bargirl?

Probably

Read Nighthawks post.

Because how do you prove they are a legitimate the d/ h.

Girls who are out night after night are not pure D / H. Many are chicken visa's.

Heard a girl last week at the Makati birthday party quote a guy HK 3000.

Wisely he walked away.

Chantik
05-23-12, 21:07
According to reports. 15 Police and 8 Immigration officers visited the bars in Wanchai. Few girls taken away.

Why does this happen when the Navy is in town.

Apparently more ships arrive tomorrow.

Neptune 2. Much fewer Indo girls. Why is this so?

Overall less customers at neptune and a small drop at Escape.

Nighthawk may have the answers.

FreebieFan
05-24-12, 11:04
A buddy of mine tried this some time back. Even though he was an ex Hong Kong resident, has a residential address in Hong Kong where he stays when he comes here, the bank insisted on "proof of address". Regular mail does not count as proof of address. You would need to submit a utility bill, bank statement, etc. To satisfy the bank's requirement.Actually whats funny here is that they require proof of address to open the account but nothing thereafter. Was living in HK maybe 20 years ago when I opened my account. I left HK some 15 years ago. Only visit there ocassionally as a tourist now and my account is still nice and open.

WildHawk
05-24-12, 14:32
According to reports. 15 Police and 8 Immigration officers visited the bars in Wanchai. Few girls taken away.

Why does this happen when the Navy is in town.

Apparently more ships arrive tomorrow.

Neptune 2. Much fewer Indo girls. Why is this so?

Overall less customers at neptune and a small drop at Escape.

Nighthawk may have the answers.I regret that I have no insight here, as I, too have stayed away. Contributing to the slump, I suppose, but recharging my batteries (and bank account). With the Navy coming all the more reason to avoid.

I did have the pleasure today of being grabbed by the shoulders on the MTR by one of my New Makati favorites. I had not noticed her getting off the train, headed to her DH job, as I got on. Not as nice as a good shagging, but a nice feeling. Some of those girls are very sweet, and treating them well has it's rewards, even as small a gesture as it was.

In the meantime, I have been trying to figure out what is going on with a Chinese (mainlander who works as an account executive in finance in HK) MILF I met at a restaurant at the ICC. I was finishing my meal Saturday when she entered, sitting at the bar and giving me loving glances. I immediately thought that it was an odd location and time for a WG. Turned out not to be the case, but she has been calling me from her workplace, and seemingly from differrent extension (very peculiar). When we have spoken, the conversations are just utter nonsense, as neither one of us can figure out what the other is saying. Seems that she is desperate to get it on, unless there's some kind of a scam going on (the different extensions bit). But far be it from Wildhawk (not Nighthawk!) to overanalyse.

Yhddude13
05-24-12, 14:42
The reality is that on most evenings, outside Saturday afternoon to Sunday early evening-ish is that those "domestic helpers" are more "working girl" helpers" and really expect to paid paid closer to the WG rate. I'd adjust up from the HK $500 to more like $800, even when they are of the "up to you" mold. At least, if you are considering a repeat. This is kind of hard to tell for those who don't know the talent from a weekend afternoon to the more mercenary set (much to be recommended) sets.

But for the slight difference in price you might enjoy an upgrade in experience, as I'd recommend a New Makati regular over a dabbler who won't suck cock (watch out for he Filipinas, they have become notorious of late here, for example.I agree. I geenrally pay the market price for the time. So, on a Wednesday night, whether the lady has a job as a DH during the day or not, I consider her a working girl like all the others in the bar and pay he proper Wednesday night working girl rate. I can't imagine it would have been any other way, but you guys seem to be good negotiators.

Chantik
05-24-12, 15:31
Guys who visit Macau and enjoy comfort.

Cotai strip grows by the day. Conrad hotel recently opened and the Holiday Inn / Sheraton are a month away.

And the guys will be interested that many Indo / Filipino staff work at the hotels in regular jobs.

Possible you could be discreet.

Nighthawk. Only a small ship (navy arrived). So its safe for you to venture out. Although one or two sweeties may be missing after the Immigration raids.

Boarer
05-24-12, 18:46
Seems that she is desperate to get it on, unless there's some kind of a scam going on (the different extensions bit). But far be it from Wildhawk (not Nighthawk!) to overanalyse.Not sure about your case, but when things like that happen to me, I think they, like some gals, are genetically inclined to be attracted to old fat bald farting men. LOL. BTW Nighthawk follows orders. So, dive in.

WildHawk
05-24-12, 19:22
Not sure about your case, but when things like that happen to me, I think they, like some gals, are genetically inclined to be attracted to old fat bald farting men. LOL. BTW Nighthawk follows orders. So, dive in.Who the hell are you calling "bald and farting"? Ha. And if you say so, I'll follow up on it.

Tiger 888
05-25-12, 16:22
According to reports. 15 Police and 8 Immigration officers visited the bars in Wanchai. Few girls taken away.It was a massive raid through all the bars and a total of 27 girls (according to my sources) were arrested, all for overstaying their visa.

Chantik
05-25-12, 18:00
It was a massive raid through all the bars and a total of 27 girls (according to my sources) were arrested, all for overstaying their visa.Strange that they would only find 27 girls.

Funny how these raids often occur when the Navy is in town.

Boarer
05-25-12, 18:55
In the meantime, I have been trying to figure out what is going on with a Chinese (mainlander.

Who the hell are you calling "bald and farting"? Ha. And if you say so, I'll follow up on it.
Not sure about your case, but when things like that happen to me,LOL Can only speak for myself. Often find myself more intrigued by the charades than the anticlimactic finale. Just hang on tight to your wallet and enjoy the ride. Happy hunting.


Funny how these raids often occur when the Navy is in town.Have to make room for groupie gals who flood into town along with the flotilla.

Emzchi
05-26-12, 03:11
Dear all of you, I need an important and urgent suggestion. My big company partner is coming tomorrow to HK and I'd like to bring him to some nice hours.

Could you suggest me some TOP CLASS places, like saunas, or something similar.

And some clubs with also TOP CLASS WG?

Thanks a lot.

Chantik
05-26-12, 14:39
LOL Can only speak for myself. Often find myself more intrigued by the charades than the anticlimactic finale. Just hang on tight to your wallet and enjoy the ride. Happy hunting.

Have to make room for groupie gals who flood into town along with the flotilla.Every lady is a hooker when the Navy is in town.

BionicMan
05-26-12, 18:40
Dear all of you, I need an important and urgent suggestion. My big company partner is coming tomorrow to HK and I'd like to bring him to some nice hours.

Could you suggest me some TOP CLASS places, like saunas, or something similar.

And some clubs with also TOP CLASS WG?

Thanks a lot.If you have time enough, bring him to Macau.

It can be done from HK with no much hassle. You take him to Rio and he will have the time of his life.

If he is a high roller you can have take a daytime helicopter flight to Macau and back with a late night boat, book first class with Turbijet as they might be well booked on a Sunday evening back to HK.

Lots has been written about Rio on Macau sauna on that thread.

Emzchi
05-27-12, 07:53
If you have time enough, bring him to Macau.

It can be done from HK with no much hassle. You take him to Rio and he will have the time of his life.

If he is a high roller you can have take a daytime helicopter flight to Macau and back with a late night boat, book first class with Turbijet as they might be well booked on a Sunday evening back to HK.

Lots has been written about Rio on Macau sauna on that thread.We'll be in Macao next days (Rio is the best?) , but for 2 days we need to stay in HK.

Something better than Dundas 37? Better class?

Or some clubs where to find TOP CLASS WG?

Thanks.

Chantik
05-27-12, 08:30
Popped in to Escape last night. A bit quiet. Probably no surprise when some ladies were quoting 3000 for ST.

Guys may have gone to other bars.

Kaplay
05-27-12, 13:36
Popped in to Escape last night. A bit quiet. Probably no surprise when some ladies were quoting 3000 for ST.

Guys may have gone to other bars.Hi Chantik,

Would it be mostly the European & Latinas quoting those prices? Do they mostly congregate there or do they move on to other clubs when there is no business or do they stick to their location and drop their prices?

Appreciate any input that you have. Were even the south Asians quoting that prices?

HkTraveller
05-27-12, 14:26
I hadn't been in Wanchai for a while on a Saturday night. I had a great time at Neptunes with Mary, a cute little Philippina that showed enough to look good and covered enough to be presentable back at the Marriott to make the walk of shame a bit less intimidating.

Price was 1600 For about an hour and a half, plus a few bucks that I spent on food for us. She was great and I was happy, although I'm glad to know that she'll be at her employers place tonight when I head on back to see who else is there.

Hktraveller

Chantik
05-27-12, 18:42
Hi Chantik,

Would it be mostly the European & Latinas quoting those prices? Do they mostly congregate there or do they move on to other clubs when there is no business or do they stick to their location and drop their prices?

Appreciate any input that you have. Were even the south Asians quoting that prices?Good question.

Yes. South Asians were quoting those prices.

Some ladies will not walk for less than 2000. No chance at all. There is a hard-core of ladies who only go to Escape. This is so they can get the business traveller who may happy to pay a higher price.

Some ladies go to both Escape and Makati.

Neptune 3 tends to have ladies who only go to that bar.

Makati girls usually end up in neptune 2. Some only go to Makati. Makati has a more party atmosphere / less professional feel.

Summing up.

Escape. Has the most latina's. Can be up to half. Hope your Spanish is good. Most of the rest are South Asians. Latina's may charge a bit more.

Neptune 3. Mainly Filipina. Some Indo / Vietnamese.

Makati. Mainly Indonesian. Some Filipina's.

Neptune 3. Mainly south Asian. Always Thai's. A few Latina's.

Of course if you don't want to visit bars. You have websites / agencies / independent escorts.

European girls - Dont see them at bars - A few years ago there was a small group of English ladies who would go to Fenwicks.

WildHawk
05-27-12, 20:07
Good question.

Yes. South Asians were quoting those prices.

Escape. Has the most latina's. Can be up to half. Hope your Spanish is good. Most of the rest are South Asians. Latina's may charge a bit more. .

Neptune 3. Mainly Filipina. Some Indo / Vietnamese.Based on the looks of the Colombians I have seen (now it has been a couple of weeks) at Escape, at the price or $2k, let alone $3k (riiiiiiiiight) my response would be a nice smile and a "good luck with that." Only now I don't say that I wish them luck, as I certainly do not. So, $2k, $3k, what? Am I paying by the weight of their ass? That might add clarity to the situation. I think I will continue to take a pass, on them and the rest of the crew at Escape. I hate to sound price patrol / nannyish (sheesh, take a look at the Pattaya boards, where the guys are bitching about paying more than 1000 baht, roughly $30 US!) , but shame on the motherfuckers who are paying those absurd Japanese escort rates. As I may have mentioned, one of the few attractive ones I saw there on my last trip (been a couple weeks) was a Filipina who would only "do drinks." Well, good luck with that one, as Wildcat is accustomed to only buying girls drinks who are potential partners in deed.

I think Chantik has figured out the migration pattern for WGs. I certainly prefer NM; said it hundred times: the girls (generally) have a better attitude and enjoy a good time on the dance floor. How could you not like that?

WildHawk
05-27-12, 20:19
I hadn't been in Wanchai for a while on a Saturday night. I had a great time at Neptunes with Mary, a cute little Price was 1600 For about an hour and a half, plus a few bucks that I spent on food for us.

Hktraveller$1600 w / a meal? Good gawd, man!

I hope you got a super looker and that it wasn't the same Mary I pulled from Nep II after having seen her at NM. (Now, again with Filipinas there's probably a 30 percent chance they've got some version of Mary in their name. Mary Agnes, Mary Gertrude, Mary Griselda. WTF is up with that? But there are not so many Filipinas, compared with Indos, at NM) Very pleasant smile, early 30ish DH. A few posts previous, cost $100 pocket change for three hours including late-night rest. Methinks you overdid it in the $ department, but if you're happy (no doubt she is as you have paid WAY above prevailing rates). Just sayin'

Sky Ryder
05-27-12, 20:33
So, $2k, $3k, what? Am I paying by the weight of their ass? That might add clarity to the situation. As I may have mentioned, one of the few attractive ones I saw there on my last trip (been a couple weeks) was a Filipina who would only "do drinks." Well, good luck with that one, as Wildcat is accustomed to only buying girls drinks who are potential partners in deed.

I think Chantik has figured out the migration pattern for WGs. I certainly prefer NM; said it hundred times: the girls (generally) have a better attitude and enjoy a good time on the dance floor. How could you not like that?I would say that the last year or so I haven't seen one So. Amer gal that I would pay the "going rate" let alone the prices these gals are asking. As Chantik said, my spanish is pretty good, but it only seems to "[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off", that I understand the little under the breath comments they make to their friends. I have spent A LOT of time in So. Amer. And all of these girls would starve to death in their country, that is for sure. Not just on looks, but attitude as well. Some of the girls say they are Columbian, but when you press them a little they can't tell you some pretty simple things that anyone from Columbia would know. I suspect they are trading on the allure of "doing" a "paisa", and it must work or they wouldn't keep coming out. Well maybe that is not true.

I also use the " buy me a drink" thing as a precurser / interview technique for a perspective partner. The ones that walk up and say,"hello where are you from, buy me a drink" don't stand a chance.

Having said all of that, there is a reason that these So. Amer gals come half the way around the world to "work", and I suspect that is something that none of us really wants to explore. IMHO.

Chantik, I wanted to say thanks! This is one of the few boards that has the huge benefit of the viewpoint you bring to this forum. It is refreshing, as well as informative I look forward to my next visit to Fragrant Harbor! I hope I can make your acquaintance!

FreebieFan
05-28-12, 02:47
$1600 w / a meal? Good gawd, man!

I hope you got a super looker and that it wasn't the same Mary I pulled from Nep II after having seen her at NM. (Now, again with Filipinas there's probably a 30 percent chance they've got some version of Mary in their name. Mary Agnes, Mary Gertrude, Mary Griselda. WTF is up with that? But there are not so many Filipinas, compared with Indos, at NM) Very pleasant smile, early 30ish DH. 'Actually the more common name is Maria, abbreviated by many girl to Ma. Ma Ethel, Ma Agnes etc.

Its a Catholic country and so lots of Catholisism in the names, both with Maria being a saintly name, and of course Mary having been a leading lady.

Just to show how strongly they take this, its normal in Philippines to meet a Jejomar. Indeed the Vice President of Philippines is Jejomar Binay. Jejomar being a multiple abbreviation of JEsus, JOseph and MARy.

Chantik
05-28-12, 05:49
Definitely feel that Escape, and especially Neptune 2 have been quieter in recent months.

I have my theories.

Do know that more and more of the girls are advertising on the NET.

BionicMan
05-28-12, 06:55
Chantik, I wanted to say thanks! This is one of the few boards that has the huge benefit of the viewpoint you bring to this forum. It is refreshing, as well as informative I look forward to my next visit to Fragrant Harbor! I hope I can make your acquaintance!I join you in the appreciation of Chantik's wise, useful and light contributions in here. Very valuable.

Uncle Goober
05-28-12, 07:43
I join you in the appreciation of Chantik's wise, useful and light contributions in here. Very valuable.Me too.

Which is code for: I really do want that massage one day please.

*wink*

Cheers

Chantik
05-28-12, 19:56
Question for Nighthawk.

You have asked me about one or two Indo's girls.

Think one was called LuLu. Is she the short girl with large Fake Boobs.

UG. Had a wonderful massage with my best friend today. Much better than my massage skills.

Kaplay
05-29-12, 04:42
Good question.

Yes. South Asians were quoting those prices.

Some ladies will not walk for less than 2000. No chance at all. There is a hard-core of ladies who only go to Escape. This is so they can get the business traveller who may happy to pay a higher price.

Some ladies go to both Escape and Makati.

Neptune 3 tends to have ladies who only go to that bar.

Makati girls usually end up in neptune 2. Some only go to Makati. Makati has a more party atmosphere / less professional feel.

Summing up.

Escape. Has the most latina's. Can be up to half. Hope your Spanish is good. Most of the rest are South Asians. Latina's may charge a bit more.

Neptune 3. Mainly Filipina. Some Indo / Vietnamese.

Makati. Mainly Indonesian. Some Filipina's.

Neptune 3. Mainly south Asian. Always Thai's. A few Latina's.

Of course if you don't want to visit bars. You have websites / agencies / independent escorts.

European girls. Don't see them at bars. A few years ago there was a small group of English ladies who would go to Fenwicks.Thanks for that informative feedback. It sure is a good guide on finding ones favourite kind of girls.

I'm an asian guy so I like to look for something different sometimes. Asian girls, I enjoy the thai experience very much so. It would be interesting to know if that small group of english girls is still around or where they would have moved on to? Any idea Chantik?

Latinas has been kind of like a treasure for me, would like to see hiw their services is like.

EE not much in HK?

WildHawk
05-29-12, 05:06
Question for Nighthawk.

You have asked me about one or two Indo's girls.

Think one was called LuLu. Is she the short girl with large Fake Boobs.

UG. Had a wonderful massage with my best friend today. Much better than my massage skills.That would be a different Indonesian Lulu. My favorite is all natural, very athletic. And a known quantity at New Makati. A couple weeks ago I mentioned her name to a regular at the club, a very friendly Italian guy."Lulu? Yesssssss. Lulu," as if he were remembering the savoring of a fine Burgundy, LOL.

Another funny thing is that evening I took a shining to one of the girls (on the "older" side, perhaps mid-30s, for the girls there. She was friendly, but slightly put-offish, as if she did not want to go with anyone). A couple minutes later she spotted the Italian guy, sits with him and they had a rather businesslike conversation before she left."My ex," he said to me.

Note to self: Do not become that guy.

And, yes, Chantik. Sign me up for your fan club. We do appreciate your postings, you as our little boots in the field!

Chantik
05-29-12, 06:01
Thanks for that informative feedback. It sure is a good guide on finding ones favourite kind of girls.

I'm an asian guy so I like to look for something different sometimes. Asian girls, I enjoy the thai experience very much so. It would be interesting to know if that small group of english girls is still around or where they would have moved on to? Any idea Chantik?

Latinas has been kind of like a treasure for me, would like to see hiw their services is like.

EE not much in HK?Hard for EE girls to get visa's for HK.

They go to Macau.

Chantik
05-29-12, 06:04
That would be a different Indonesian Lulu. My favorite is all natural, very athletic. And a known quantity at New Makati. A couple weeks ago I mentioned her name to a regular at the club, a very friendly Italian guy."Lulu? Yesssssss. Lulu," as if he were remembering the savoring of a fine Burgundy, LOL.

Another funny thing is that evening I took a shining to one of the girls (on the "older" side, perhaps mid-30s, for the girls there. She was friendly, but slightly put-offish, as if she did not want to go with anyone). A couple minutes later she spotted the Italian guy, sits with him and they had a rather businesslike conversation before she left."My ex," he said to me.

Note to self: Do not become that guy.

And, yes, Chantik. Sign me up for your fan club. We do appreciate your postings, you as our little boots in the field!Well the LuLu I am thinking of was banned from Nep 2 for threatening a guy with a bottle (hope it wasn't you). Think a case of jealousy.

She is usually at Escape.

Fake boobs for us. Means girls who wear push up bra's, stuff their bras's with tissues. Some even stuff tissues in their bums.

Kaplay
05-29-12, 08:55
Hard for EE girls to get visa's for HK.

They go to Macau.I'm not much of an EE fan. Just thought that they hanged around the bars like some do in Singapore. Though I have seen some before at Hari's Holiday Inn. But they did not appeal to me.

Johnny Rocket
05-29-12, 09:25
Good question.

Yes. South Asians were quoting those prices.

Some ladies will not walk for less than 2000. No chance at all. There is a hard-core of ladies who only go to Escape. This is so they can get the business traveller who may happy to pay a higher price.

Some ladies go to both Escape and Makati.

Neptune 3 tends to have ladies who only go to that bar.

Makati girls usually end up in neptune 2. Some only go to Makati. Makati has a more party atmosphere / less professional feel.

Summing up.

Escape. Has the most latina's. Can be up to half. Hope your Spanish is good. Most of the rest are South Asians. Latina's may charge a bit more.

Neptune 3. Mainly Filipina. Some Indo / Vietnamese.

Makati. Mainly Indonesian. Some Filipina's.

Neptune 3. Mainly south Asian. Always Thai's. A few Latina's.

Of course if you don't want to visit bars. You have websites / agencies / independent escorts.

European girls. Don't see them at bars. A few years ago there was a small group of English ladies who would go to Fenwicks.South Asian? Where from, Nepal? India? Pakistan? I didn't know there were any South Asians in WC. I haven't had an Indian girl for a while as none of them in HK seem interested in fucking. May have to check it out the next time my desire for pussy outweighs my dislike of Wan Chai.