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Simple Me
12-22-12, 08:49
Thank you Royalpardesi2001, Charly Foxtrot and Stargm for the help, appreciate it. I will check out the venues and post review.


Dear Members, I have been in HK for a couple of years but haven't ventured into the scene here. Starting to do so now.

If anyone has any general questions about HK, happy to help or even show around the areas on the HK-island side!

Please, a question to the experienced members here: any good recommendations for low-cost, not too shabby, decent looking, discreet "short-term" hotel for 2-4 hours in Wanchai or Central or Sheung Wan or any neighboring areas? Appreciate your kind help.

Thanks!

Chantik
12-22-12, 17:43
Atzen.

Little hope that will be able to enter Escape. Age is 25 and they check I'd at the bar.

You should be OK in the other bars.

Of course you be very welcome at Carnegies.

Pita123
12-22-12, 18:36
Sorry I did not contribute a lot. My experience is very limited, I am only 19.

I did look at the map, and found 411 site. But I don't understand, is escape purely a high class prostitution where you go in and pick the most beautiful girl, or its more like a club? Sorry for these questions.Escape is more like a regular club where you just spot a good looking girl and chat her up. The difference is that these girls are working girls so you need to also deal with how much for how long before you leave together. But they are freelancers You negotiate with them, not the bar.

PokgaiHero
12-22-12, 19:48
Medium / Long time reader, first time punter.

Disclaimer: everyone mistakes me for a local (speak canto and mando, Chinese ethnicity, relatives in the area) but I've live abroad. This probably made things very easy as compared to some reports.

I checked out some of the walk-up places in the afternoon, but found the entrances to be too shady and public (next to super crowded places). Nighttime is more my thing, however, many walk-ups seem to stop at 10pm. This led me to try temple street and the surrounding areas. It couldn't be easier.

Temple street itself is crowded with tourists and street shops, but as soon as one turns the corner and head over to shanghai street, it's clearly obvious what is going on. Some are in doorways, and some are on street corners or close to the corner. They can spot punters a block away and punters vice versa. Some will try and pick up eye contact, and some will whisper to you quickly as you walk by.

I was very nervous at first; I was alone walking around and since I noticed them, they noticed me. I took my time walking up and down and around the different streets to see what others would do to keep it discreet. Nope; just go up, whisper "Duo xiao" (how much in mando, most of them are PRC, others look to be philippina, I chose PRC) , and they will say how much.

After walking around for about two hours, waiting for the cops to leave as they had busted a guy and two street walkers, I finally walked by one I liked and made eye contact with, circled around the block and came back. Eye contact, walked up close: "Duo xiao?", she mouthed "Liang bai" (2.). Nodded and done. I walked up with her to her room. Super nervous. Told me to get naked, she stripped as well. No shower. She capped me, ky'ed herself, and we got to it. Cute little thing, it was a bit rushed. But first time for everything. Finished, she wiped me off, we both clothed, and I trotted down the building. The other girl was outside the door, and more guys outside just walking around. I'm sure they knew what went down. Well. That was easy and the price was excellent.

Success. Why should I pay more for walk-ups or the Karaoke Pressure? Finding a cute one isn't too tough. But being local-like probably helps+++?

JackTheLad2
12-22-12, 21:44
This is what I found browsing through the reports last week.

Hong kong.

Velvet curtain strip clubs.

Neptune ii.

Escape- most beautiful work.

Goo. Gl / maps / gtD82.

Weekday wanchai freelancer

Lan kwai fong.

If anybody can improvise it will be great!OK, lets see if I can help you a bit more.

First of all you have to remember that in the Wanchai bars most of the girls you will meet in the bars are WG's. They want your money. Expect to pay in the region of HK$1000 for ST, although if you are lucky you can pay as low as $500. You have to negotiate before you leave the bar with the girl. She will also expect a drink or two from you. You might get lucky in New Makati where most DW's gather and it is possible to get a freebie there. A lot of girls your own age and just a bit older go there. A 19 year old, however, should be able to get a non WG and Lan Kwai Fong would be the place to start, but you might need to work at it. Paying is the prerogative of older guys like me. Forget the curtained places. They are rip-offs.

Several years ago, my company sent an 18 year old boy with me to HK on business. He was a knock-out in the bars and the girls loved him. But he still had to pay. He blew all his money in the first 2 days. So either have plenty of money or be careful. Drink is not cheap in the bars either and the ladies drinks can run away with a lot of your hard earned cash.

Chantik is right. You might not get into Escape, depending on how 'old' you look to the bouncers on the door. Other bars may well let you in, depending on who you are with, how you look etc. Try Neptune 111 and Forrest. Have a pint in Joe Bananas and watch the girls walk by. Neptune 11 is shut just now. Carnegies tend to have young local girls there towards the end of the week so you could get lucky.

There are plenty of 141 places, mainly in the Kowloon side but they are far from luxurious or up=market. You could also try 35 Dundas or K-Pressure but you pay in these places. There are plenty of reports on them.

Cusland
12-23-12, 00:22
I'll make it back to Asia on boxing day. First stop is 2 nights in HK. Read the posts on tickets for New Makati on boxing day. Any thoughts on if it'll be too full to just rock up to the door? Always like the Filipina's.

Chantik
12-23-12, 07:06
I'll make it back to Asia on boxing day. First stop is 2 nights in HK. Read the posts on tickets for New Makati on boxing day. Any thoughts on if it'll be too full to just rock up to the door? Always like the Filipina's.The party is on in the evening.

Decomast
12-23-12, 12:22
Coming from Dongguan, I booked an extra day in HK to discover. Booked my hotel in Wanchai to be close to the hotspots. Started in joe bananas at 22 h and the place was very empty. More boys than girls. So headed to escape. Here the ratio was much better. Nice gals from Columbia. Thought that prices would go down but at 3 am in the morning they still did not accept 2000 hkd for ST. Normally I refuse to pay more than 100euro = 1000 hkd for ST in any country. As I never had a columbian girl before, I was prepared to do an extra. Left with big desillusion. On my way bach to the hotel, I meeted a viet 'maid' and took her to the hotel for 1000 hkd for overnight. When she undressed, the disappointment was even bigger than before : no tits (a filled up bra) way to much skin at her stomach (from having baby s) and a Bush. I made her leave my room and the money was gone! Conclusion : Hong kong never again.

Atzen
12-23-12, 17:48
Just came back from Escape, went there about 2200 and there were more guys than girls. Went to LKF to check what it is like over there, saw too many people waiting for the elevator and there is too much competition, and went back to escape. It is about 2330, there is about girl to boy ratio of 3:1. Funny thing is that when I going in escape, the door man ask my age, I said 22. He was like, what? 32, and I said no 27, didn't even bother to check my I'd. The girls were mostly european white girls about the age of 25-30 with lots of makeup. There were a few fuckable ones, but I had to leave. Will checkout there private parts another time. And walked pass crazy horse and the door was pretty dark and didn't see any actions. Will there be a lot more people tomorrow Christmas eve? Or Christmas day in the escape? What other places have girls about age 18? What about European or Russian white girls?

Thanks for any advice or info.

Chantik
12-23-12, 18:35
Decomast.

I am unsure what you expected.

You go to Joe bananas which has little or no working ladies.

Then you go to Escape which is the most expensive bar in Wanchai.

And don't expect quality at a good price at 3am. Many of the best ladies are taken out by Midnight.

And there are no Vietnamese 'Maids' in Hong Kong. The Vietnamese Government doesn't allow it to happen.

Cusland
12-23-12, 22:50
The party is on in the evening.But my question is do I need a ticket or can I just turn up?

Tiger 888
12-24-12, 02:04
...And there are no Vietnamese 'Maids' in Hong Kong. The Vietnamese Government doesn't allow it to happen.I believe that has more to do with the HK government, as there are Vietnamese maids in Macau.

Chantik
12-24-12, 06:04
I believe that has more to do with the HK government, as there are Vietnamese maids in Macau.Fair enough.

But definitely no Vietnemese maids in HK.

Think the Governnment is looking at Laos / Cambodia / Myanmar.

BionicMan
12-24-12, 06:59
Fair enough.But definitely no Vietnemese maids in HK. Think the Governnment is looking at Laos / Cambodia / Myanmar.Seen the reputation of some vietnamense working girls, the govenrment is worried that vietnamese DH will run out of the flat after having made up one room only in 45' and that will be it, albeit having paid them for full working day. LOL

GeoffreyFirmin
12-24-12, 13:00
I moved to HK for the start of a multi-year assignment. I'm single and intend to enjoy my time here. My flat is in a nice building complex in the Mid-Levels. Will that hamper my pursuit of either W / G or D / H? I don't know if any new friends I make will be skittish about going back to my place.

I'm out of town for most of the next month, but I'm up for meeting some fellow punters for a round or two on a Sunday afternoon in Wan Chai.

Chantik
12-24-12, 13:00
Seen the reputation of some vietnamense working girls, the govenrment is worried that vietnamese DH will run out of the flat after having made up one room only in 45' and that will be it, albeit having paid them for full working day. LOLIsn't this similar to how they treat their customers. Run out after one pop.

Certain the guys will have stories.

GeoffreyFirmin
12-24-12, 13:22
Took a walk up Nathan Road yesterday. The big yellow sign made it quite easy to see where to go, even though numbering seems optional on Hong Kong streets.

Mamasan brought me three girls for my perusal. They definitely didn't bring out their A list for me, but one of them was good enough. PRC girl 5 lbs above thin, but on the tall side with nice breasts. Incidentally, is it considered bad form to ask for a new group of three girls?

Anyway, the room left something to be desired, but she was eager and enjoyed my attention. We had a shower that lasted a few minutes too long, but with a nice BBBJ. In the bed, it seemed like covers were optional, which surprised me. I opted for one, however.

I may go back again at some point, but I was hoping for a younger girl, like early to mid 20s. Maybe this is a bad time of the year.

Tiger 888
12-24-12, 15:04
Isn't this similar to how they treat their customers. Run out after one pop.

Certain the guys will have stories.I believe that's exactly what Bionicman wanted to say. But I can tell you from experience that there are some where it takes a while to get to the point that it is all about money and time.

Decomast
12-24-12, 16:37
To chantik :

What I want to make clear is that I hope there are more people like me not willing to pay 2000hkd for ST. This spoils the fun for all of us.

Chantik
12-24-12, 19:53
I believe that's exactly what Bionicman wanted to say. But I can tell you from experience that there are some where it takes a while to get to the point that it is all about money and time.The point I was trying to make is that if a guy books you for one hour or two hours. You stay for the whole time. What action that happens after the guy pops is up to you and the guy. But you don't run out. The fact is that some guys ask you to leave after 20 or 30 minutes. Especially if they are having a lunchtime special.

And there are very few ladies who say whether online / or at a bar that a visit has one pop. It is time / price that is discussed.

Chantik
12-24-12, 20:00
Decomast.

The reality is that you went to the most expensive bar price-wise in Wanchai. Most ladies who go to Escape only go to that bar. That is to get business travellers because they can quote 2000 for S / T. Some guys are happy to pay this price, although HK residents won't pay this price. And you spent time at JB which has few if any W/L's. There was a better selections of bars in wanchai that suited your needs, if no,t 141, F/S massage services, walk ups, independent escorts etc,etc,.etc.

And if you are wondering into bars at 3am. You don't always have a wide choice of ladies.

HK may have been a bad experience for you. Which can be part of PUNTING.

But you didn't give yourself the best opportunity.

Chantik
12-24-12, 20:15
Had a Lovely dinner at a French Restaurant in Soho with my girlfriend.

Then went and had a look at the Makati Christmas party (hiding in the shadows as I usually do). The bar was close to full and rocking. About the same number of guys and girls. A few younger guys. This is an increasing trend. Lots of cute Santa outfits.

Then my girlfriend wanted to go to Escape. Oh My God!. Counted 52 people. Bar was dead. Will be like this until the New Year.

It was a quiet Christmas eve in Wanchai. Amazonia quiet as was Mes Ami, Carnegies and Dusk Till dawn OK, Spicy Fingers was busy.

Guys if you can get out of Christmas day activities, tomorrow is a great day to find horny helpers. Very few guys will be out. You have a choice of ladies.

Merry Christmas to all.

WTF0506
12-25-12, 09:47
Up here on holiday and a quick report. Dropped the s. O. At Langham mall. (very cool place BTW) and back to hotel for nap. The streets right behind the mall all have the yellow and green cardboard. Most are the 141, 168 etc girls. So went up and knocked a few. Three opened doors and all were way past sell by date.

Went 2 blocks further south and see the pink lights. Go in and brings 2 to choose from. Followed the advice of the board and went with the one with a smile. She was very attractive with a short blue jean skirt. No English but fron Shenzhen. Tiny frame and 22 yo. Shower and soap up and the CBJ and on for the races. Damn she was really good at tightening those muscles. No kissing and fake moans but hey did it for me. Cost was 360 hkd plus a 50 tip. Was not there for 45 minutes! Got a dirty look from a neighbor as was leaving the building as she was with me. I just said if you can afford. Do it!

Problem is suppose to go meet s. O. Now and. I really need a nap! Merry Christmas guys!

Chantik
12-25-12, 10:16
Forgot to add that NM is very generous with their servings of spirits. My whisky felt like a triple. Wow 1

Chantik
12-25-12, 15:38
Dropped into Insiders and Escape after a big Christmas lunch.

Both places had reasonable crowds. Mainly Filipina. No guys. Had to be 15 ladies to 1 guy.

Wow!

BionicMan
12-25-12, 22:10
Isn't this similar to how they treat their customers. Run out after one pop.

Certain the guys will have stories.LOL indeed that was my message, relate the (sex) WG attitude to an unlikely Vietnamese DH. Where one room is one pop.

BionicMan
12-25-12, 22:15
I believe that's exactly what Bionicman wanted to say. But I can tell you from experience that there are some where it takes a while to get to the point that it is all about money and time.Correct. Vietnamese experience have been varying, but the majority of them is hit and run. Even if one negotiate LT, that's the point.

I can imagine ST can be one pop, but if one negotiate two hours or so, and she goes after one pop she is cheating. It is well clear one pop is seldom so long.

Business Class
12-29-12, 14:14
Someone help a brother out.

I came across the term (see image); on 168. Google translate tells me it means back garden. Can anyone tell me what it means in the context of our hobby?

Thanks,

BC

Tall and Horny
12-29-12, 17:52
Someone help a brother out.

I came across the term (see image) ; on 168. Google translate tells me it means back garden. Can anyone tell me what it means in the context of our hobby?

Thanks,

BCIt means anal sex.

Tiger 888
12-29-12, 19:49
Someone help a brother out.

I came across the term (see image) ; on 168. Google translate tells me it means back garden. Can anyone tell me what it means in the context of our hobby?

Thanks,

BCTake your attention to the first word.

Business Class
12-30-12, 01:07
It means anal sex.Appreciate it. I suspected as much, but then thought it could be rimming or prostate rubbing. Also, the provider was only asking for 50 honkie for this service, which is cheap IMHO. Maybe she's a diamond in the rough (sorry for the pun).

BC

SirMarjAlot
12-30-12, 08:49
Wan Chai, Hong Kong.

Flew to Hong Kong from London with Cathay Pacific, direct flight around 12 hours for 600 pounds. Took the airport express to central then the MTR to Wan Chai exiting Lockhart road. Walked a couple minutes down Lockhart road pass the Queen Victoria pub

And checked into the hotel Wharney for $100 dollars a night, my base for the next 3 nights.

Neptune 3 Disco.

Opposite the Wharney was the Neptune 3 club and disco (the Neptune 2 just closed down the night before) , so I started my adventure off in the Neptune it being around 5pm Saturday evening.

Quite alot of people inside, some sexy Indonesian maids dancing in cut down jeans. I move closer, one catches me looking at her and the next thing she is sat on my lap sticking her pierced tongue down my throat.

Paid for a lady drink tequila for around 70HKD and the kissing and the groping continued.

I asked her to join me in the Wharney for 1000 HKD she thought about it and then came back with 2000 HKD, too much for me, she went and danced with her friends and I left the Neptune 3 to try the New Makati.

I kind of knew at the time, call it deja vue, that I was experiencing some beginners luck in terms of quality of girl, she was very sexy only 19, very curvy, pretty. Just needed to bring the price down,

But thought maybe there was plenty more where she came from.

The New Makati was smaller, very dark, pretty packed but could not really single out any attractive girls. Tried the Forest bar, Escape club etc, similar setup.

San Francisco gogo.

I got pulled into the San Francisco gogo club as I was walking down Lockhart road, I not get ripped off in there. Got joined by some pretty Filipino girls and told the mamasan only wanted one girl to remain with me and I paid for a drink for her.

Decided to take her back to my hotel for 1 hour was 1300 HKD including the drinks, paid with my card. Nice girl, went pretty well back at the hotel with her.

After the Filipino girl left the hotel I went back out around Wan Chai, all the maids had now left the clubs like Neptune, new Makati and Forest, what was left was more hardcore freelancer types, Thai, Filipino, older, heavier.

The more normal clubs in Wan Chai like Dusk till Dawn come alive and get packed out with live band playing etc.

After 9pm the maids go back home as they resume work in the morning. Was looking forward to Sundays maid parade in Wan Chai. This was when most maids working in Hong Kong had their day off and alot of them head to Wan Chai to let there hair down.

I left Bar 109 after 5AM Sunday morning, very drunk, Indonesian maids were turning up at this time in Bar 109, this is where the fun begins. Bar 109 on Sundays in Wan Chai with the Hong Kong maids.

Hangover. 6 hand massage.

A few hours later I awake, the whirling pit, I'm not feeling well, there is no way I can make bar 109 for midday as I throw up down the toilet. I do head out that evening though, really brittle, like a vampire being exposed to sunlight.

Bar 109 and there's some drunk maids outside and the curtains are pulled across with a doorman standing there. The advice is not to go in sober, I left it.

Neptune 3, New Makati and Forest were all packed out, did notice some really cute girls inside, lots of drunk expats too. I was not in the right mood, I had totally fucked up Sundays maid parade, I was developing a real lust for some of these really cute Indo maids. I decided to put plan B into action which was some addresses of massage places from the Hong Kong Sex 141 down Hennessy Road in the Wan Chai area. This would be more relaxing and can nurse my hangover.

Find one place with half a dozen cute Chinese girls working mid twenties or so. 1 hour full body massage 280 HKD, why not take 2 girls. 3 girls. 4 girls? I took 3 in the end. One of them was really good at massage,

For an extra 200 HKD each they all gave me a handjob together.

New Makati, Indonesian Maid.

My last night in Wan Chai, I end up in the New Makati, I really wanted to bag myself a sexy Indonesian maid. I noticed a girl who was totally my type sat at the bar, alone so I approached her and began some small chat. She was an Indonesian maid, Monday nightwas her night off. I told her I wanted to take her back to my hotel, she was fine about it but started negotiations off at 2000 HKD. I replied with 1500 HKD, she agreed, that was that. Back to my hotel for a great time with this Indonesian maid giving the girlfriendand porn star experience in one, after we exchanged phone numbers having got myself a local SIM card with PCCW for 70HKD including superfast data which you can top up online.

A great last night mongering in Wan Chai Hong Kong. The next morning I leave for Macau, returning in a couple of days to Hong Kong, Kowloon side.

Wan Chai not cheap if you want to indulge properly but lots of options, would definitely return, Jealous of the western guys living and working in Hong Kong.

Chantik
12-30-12, 11:22
50 hk. Think you mean 50 HK.

It's tough to get a bowl of noodles for 50 HK.

JackTheLad2
12-30-12, 12:47
50 hk. Think you mean 50 HK.

It's tough to get a bowl of noodles for 50 HK.Chantik. I think you mean $500!

Business Class
12-30-12, 12:55
Chantik. I think you mean $500!Sorry for the confusion.

$50 over full service price of $300, so $350 for anal.

Chantik
12-30-12, 17:09
Chantik. I think you mean $500!Yes.

I mix up my currencies.

Chantik
12-30-12, 17:14
I find it surprising that Anal only costs an extra $50. 00 on top of $300.

I would be suspicious.

Boarer
12-31-12, 09:23
walked a couple minutes down lockhart road pass the queen victoria pub . checked into the hotel wharney.might suggest the free airport express hotel bus shuttle as less walking and dragging luggage up stairs and escalators. you just walk 20 yards after the airport express exit turnstile. think the stop is either in front of the hotel or the next street; closer than the mtr exit.


paid with my cardimho, vice establishments are not a good place to use a credit card unless one is expensing it or there are a lot of digits on the bill. already get enough fraudulent charges from established vendors. plenty of atms around wanchai and the fee is a small price for insurance against getting totally raped. you are the first one in a long time to post about a velvet curtain take out.


i replied with 1500 hkd, she agreedsince it looks like you did rtff, you know she was very happy and awaiting your return!

Boarer
12-31-12, 09:31
I find it surprising that Anal only costs an extra $50. 00 on top of $300.

I would be suspicious.Funny, in some places, it is prix fixe and everything included. LOL Been offered many times by the ladies.

SirMarjAlot
12-31-12, 09:43
might suggest the free airport express hotel bus shuttle as less walking and dragging luggage up stairs and escalators. you just walk 20 yards after the airport express exit turnstile. think the stop is either in front of the hotel or the next street; closer than the mtr exit.

imho, vice establishments are not a good place to use a credit card unless one is expensing it or there are a lot of digits on the bill. already get enough fraudulent charges from established vendors. plenty of atms around wanchai and the fee is a small price for insurance against getting totally raped. you are the first one in a long time to post about a velvet curtain take out.

since it looks like you did rtff, you know she was very happy and awaiting your return!ok, not know there was a free hotel shuttle, i only take hand luggage with me, so not much to carry, only stayed for 1 week.

the card, yes i had my doubts, but again she ensured me everything ok, its one of those pre-loaded cards. no kickbacks from that.

that night i was suppose to meet tinman, it was his birthday, and i corresponded with him about the clubs as he did the write up on stickman.

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readerssubmissions2012/reader7339.htm

he is totally rich, he paid for two girls for everyone with him that night, all night! he emptied the club of its girls. so regret not meeting up with tinman.

i wanted to experience one of the clubs and i can recommend the san francisco, it went well for me, some nice girls inside too.

that indo girl, don't think i could have dropped much below 1500, but maybe should have tried.

i absolutely love indonesian girls, great looking, good fun, great in bed, may have to plan a trip to jakarta now.

had a great time in hong kong, will definitely return, a bit wiser.

just have to save some cash for the place or become good friends with tinman.

Business Class
12-31-12, 11:50
I find it surprising that Anal only costs an extra $50. 00 on top of $300.

I would be suspicious.I appreciate that you actually commented on my post. Although my time in HK hasn't been long, I've studying up (I. E, RTFF) , so I consider it an honor that my question actually interested you.

Now that I've buttered you up, perhaps we'll bump into each other in the future. In the meantime, I'll let you know how it goes, if I partake the "back garden".

BC

Chantik
12-31-12, 17:36
might suggest the free airport express hotel bus shuttle as less walking and dragging luggage up stairs and escalators. you just walk 20 yards after the airport express exit turnstile. think the stop is either in front of the hotel or the next street; closer than the mtr exit.

imho, vice establishments are not a good place to use a credit card unless one is expensing it or there are a lot of digits on the bill. already get enough fraudulent charges from established vendors. plenty of atms around wanchai and the fee is a small price for insurance against getting totally raped. you are the first one in a long time to post about a velvet curtain take out.

since it looks like you did rtff, you know she was very happy and awaiting your return!boarer.

ever thought that sir m may use this walk to the hotel as a chance to check the talent.

and he may enjoy taking pics / videos. lots of interesting sights in lockhart road.

Chantik
12-31-12, 17:37
I appreciate that you actually commented on my post. Although my time in HK hasn't been long, I've studying up (I. E, RTFF) , so I consider it an honor that my question actually interested you.

Now that I've buttered you up, perhaps we'll bump into each other in the future. In the meantime, I'll let you know how it goes, if I partake the "back garden".

BCI guess you need to take 'one for the team'.

SirMarjAlot
12-31-12, 19:02
Boarer.

Ever thought that Sir M may use this walk to the hotel as a chance to check the talent.

And he may enjoy taking pics / videos. Lots of interesting sights in Lockhart Road.I do love to take pics and videos, its my hobby within the hobby, some covertly too due to the nature of the hobby.

Just got some new books on photography looking to improve, Hong kong is a photographers paradise.

Check out some of my albums.

https://picasaweb.google.com/115445097967608311913/WanChaiHongKong?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Boarer
01-01-13, 08:55
He is totally rich, he paid for two girls for everyone with him that night, all night! He emptied the club of its girls. So regret not meeting up with TinMan.Most brits do not reciprocate the foreign hospitality on their home turf so probably better for your wallet you did not attend. If you become a regular, the mamasan will deal straighter with you. IMHO, the quality of girls behind the curtains have decreased over the years or my eye sight is getting worse. In either case, the quality is more consistent than the DH or FL WGs. FWIW, Indo is my current flavor.

Boarer
01-01-13, 09:02
Boarer.

Ever thought that Sir M may use this walk to the hotel as a chance to check the talent.

And he may enjoy taking pics / videos. Lots of interesting sights in Lockhart Road.I let my fingers (or hands) do the walking (and cupping) while flowing through the gauntlet and thus prefer to keep them free! Just taking advantage of the situation and getting in some free squeezes. LOL (I know, behaving like the worst kind of customer! Butterflies?)

Chantik
01-01-13, 10:54
Most brits do not reciprocate the foreign hospitality on their home turf so probably better for your wallet you did not attend. If you become a regular, the mamasan will deal straighter with you. IMHO, the quality of girls behind the curtains have decreased over the years or my eye sight is getting worse. In either case, the quality is more consistent than the DH or FL WGs. FWIW, Indo is my current flavor.You need to make a New Year's Resolution. Ladies are just as beautiful as 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Things always look better through the ' mists of time '.

Lots of handsome guys out there. I notice no difference

Pita123
01-01-13, 15:44
You need to make a New Year's Resolution. Ladies are just as beautiful as 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Things always look better through the ' mists of time '.Actually, the influx of American fast food has had an impact on the ladies. The increase in milk consumption has also changed things. Oh, orthodontics? Plastic surgery? Employment opportunities helping some women opt for other professions? Things have changed.

SirMarjAlot
01-01-13, 16:22
Macau to Kowloon.

Checked out of the Hotel Lisboa Macao and took the ferry to Kowloon with TurboJet for 150 HKD. From Kowloon took a taxi to the hotel Kimberley just off Nathan road near Tsim Sha Tsui MTR.

Roads are pretty jammed in Hong Kong but the taxi drivers put the meter on and don't tend to try and rip you off. Kimberly hotel is OK, but to be honest was already missing the Wharney and Wan Chai. Just out of my comfort zone lets call it, plus was doing alot ofhopping about in a short space of time, but my first trips to a new mongering destination are more a reconnaissance mission.

Temple Street.

Wanted to try some of the cheaper mongering options that are on offer in Hong Kong. Made my way up Nathan road to Temple Street. Took a massage with an attractive Chinese woman top of temple street. Grubby little room though, for 250 HKD, wanted.

To give me a handjob but wanted to save myself but let her give my cock and balls a good massage for 200 HKD extra to get me in the mood. The temple street market was just setting up, I browsed the stalls and noticed some streetwalkers bottom of

Temple street, but not interested. Parallel with Temple street is Woosung street and I found the premises of K-Pressure. Would return here later tonight maybe.

Irish Pub.

That evening found Delaney's the Irish pub another one called Murphys nearby. Good watering hole is delaneys if your based in Kowloon, some freelancers inside too. Got chatting to some fellow mongers from USA and Ireland and exchanged some good info

And contact details. Was suppose to meet my Indonesian maid in New Makati tonight at 9pm. Wanted her to stay all night, but she reminded me this would cost extra. Decided to try k-pressure instead.

K-Pressure.

Made my way to K-Pressure, was a little tipsy, feeling base, like I wanted a dirty girl who was up for some BBBJ, CIM, rejected the first two girls who came into my dark room as don't offer that service, then a third cheeky Chinese girl was up for it so took her.

Fee was 500 HKD and another 300 HKD for the extras. She took me to our room, very nice room, right temperature, mirrors, firm bed etc, porn playing. She not quite live up to her promise in the end though pulling away and finishing me off over her tits. But really nnot a bad experience for the price. Girls not top quality though.

Fuji Walkup.

The next day took the star ferry across Victoria harbour then took the MTR too Causeway Bay. Then walking up Lockhart road looking for 381. Found it and walked inside, some building work going on lots of drilling and crap around on the floors etc.

Took a lift up to the top floor 23 with a few Chinese punters.

Its all very hush hush, the protocol is you don't look other punters in the face. Each floor has a half dozen doors or so and in each room is a single working girl, mostly Chinese. If she accepts foreigners and currently working and not busy you will see a 'Welcome' sign on the door and you ring the bell. She answers, if you like what you see, you enter and do the business.

Basic price is around 500 HKD for 40 minutes. Most girls offer extras but these are usually written in Chinese and there English is not great. I saw one gorgeous Chinese woman, Miss Hong Kong, then realised in my rush to find the building I had forgotten

To withdraw some money out of the ATM. So lost my chance with her as when I came back the 'Please Wait' sign was now hanging from her door.

Never come to a working girl house without enough cash! Lesson learnt. I amused myself ringing a few more bells, there is so many of them. Found another really attractive Chinese woman and went inside. Enjoyed myself with her, shower together,

Lovely natural tidy pussy. Not bad for 500 HKD.

Mong Kok.

That evening I took the MTR to Mong Kok, found a red light district and took a look inside. Two Triad like characters led me into a grubby little room that even cockroaches would have found displeasing.

Introduced me to three girls, not bad but not feel comfortable and not so horny. Told them want to look in some other places but they tell me all the same girls, they just shuttle them from one place to the next depending on the punters tastes.

Just wanted to get out now.

Haris Bar.

My last night in Kowloon, met my new friend in the Irish pub and then we went across the road to Haris bar in the Holiday Inn. Pretty packed out inside a more maturer crowd. Quite a few freelancers inside, from Africa, eastern Europe, south america and of.

Course local. But were older, heavier again, not keeping themselves in tip top shape, why bother, if your punters don't demand it.

Tried out Sticky Fingers too, but mostly after work Friday night crowd, easy to notice the overweight western woman dancing to the Filipino cover band but too dark and loud to pick out any nice working girls. And so my mongering expedition to Hong Kong

And Macau had come to an end, tomorrow I would fly home to London, not too early though had been careful to pick a later flight.

In the morning when it was too late could have kicked myself for not having my Indonesian maid over, after she text me what time I leave. Damn! Another lesson learnt.

Mongering in Kowloon. Full report.

http://mongerplanet.com/2012/11/29/kowloon-hong-kong/

Mongering in Hong Kong, Macao. Video compilation.

http://youtu.be/rohZ4WBzv6Y

SE Asia Joe
01-01-13, 16:44
Us guys, as we grow older, our field grows!

Say when I was 16, I'd only be ogling / chasing after gals my age or younger.

But as I progressed in age, more and more gals come within my classification as being acceptable and nowadays, my field of vision is indeed VERY BROAD! (excuse the pun!).

The reverse is true for gals and its a pity that as gals age, their "menu" gets progressively narrower.

Younger guys generally do not "favor" them and the cougars are always battling for the few fellas who do like older gals.

SEAJ

MrClen
01-01-13, 18:36
This posting is more in the way of some incite into the problem I have seen posted many times in the China threads. Either the girls do not to want to serve foreigners or they charge more! My question is why?

I will list some possible reasons and hope to get some responses:

1. Usually we can afford it and will pay more because we are a limited schedule and it can be now or never.

2. Many of us don't speak the language and so it is less fun for the girl.

3. We are rumored to have a larger penis, although my personal case that is not true and I guess in most cases it is not.

4. Maybe we are more demanding and want more services from the girls than the locals ask for?

4a. The language could play a part here to, makes it difficult to negotiate or say no?

5. In some cases do we treat them too rough?

6. Do they think there may be a greater chance of STD's with us?

7. Is it a multiple POP question? When I was (much) younger 2-3 and even (rarely) four was not that big a problem. Now a couple hours is required between.

8. I, and maybe many of us, like to hold off the finish as long as possible to enjoy the action.

9. I know in China there is the "white" thing and the "hairy" thing. How do these fit into the whole thing?

10. Propaganda and latent hostility toward?

Now, I and an old guy and only have KTV experience, and have not experienced this, (or may have but wasn't astute or sober enough to recognize it). In fact have picked a "sit only" girl a couple times who later decide that she wanted to LT with me.

I would hope that the more experienced mongers out there will comment on this and offer suggestions relevant as to how and if this can be addressed.

Chantik
01-01-13, 18:51
Actually, the influx of American fast food has had an impact on the ladies. The increase in milk consumption has also changed things. Oh, orthodontics? Plastic surgery? Employment opportunities helping some women opt for other professions? Things have changed.So why are men still as cute. They also eat western food and dairy products.

One possible reason why guys think the women aren't as attractive is that women can work as escorts online. They don't have to go to barsor the like.

Tiger 888
01-02-13, 02:36
Us guys, as we grow older, our field grows!

Say when I was 16, I'd only be ogling / chasing after gals my age or younger.

But as I progressed in age, more and more gals come within my classification as being acceptable and nowadays, my field of vision is indeed VERY BROAD! (excuse the pun!).

The reverse is true for gals and its a pity that as gals age, their "menu" gets progressively narrower.

Younger guys generally do not "favor" them and the cougars are always battling for the few fellas who do like older gals.

SEAJIsn't the number of "younger than me" girls available increasing by the day? Whereas the number of "older than them and rich" guys is decreasing equivalently.

Bnlee2
01-02-13, 03:28
Us guys, as we grow older, our field grows!

Say when I was 16, I'd only be ogling / chasing after gals my age or younger.

But as I progressed in age, more and more gals come within my classification as being acceptable and nowadays, my field of vision is indeed VERY BROAD! (excuse the pun!).

The reverse is true for gals and its a pity that as gals age, their "menu" gets progressively narrower.

Younger guys generally do not "favor" them and the cougars are always battling for the few fellas who do like older gals.

SEAJI prefer older gals. 25-39. You run into more younger gals being a starfish in bed than one that have a bit more experience. My preference is for the 28-39 year old rich cougars or rather kept women, normally they get used about once or twice a month when their lo gon are in town to see them. You have a better chance of THEM 'power fu$king" you all night long than the younger gals wanting to do the least and run off with the $$ as soon as they get into the room with you. With no more than two fuc$ a month, they get rather horny and that is how I like it. The kept women are more hornier and cost less or in most cases no or minimal cost.

Just my two rmb on this IMHO.

Pita123
01-02-13, 03:54
So why are men still as cute. They also eat western food and dairy products.

One possible reason why guys think the women aren't as attractive is that women can work as escorts online. They don't have to go to barsor the like.We aren't still as cute. We are all handsome men.

And what does whether they can work as escorts online or not come into play. Just walk the streets, visit cafes, malls, etc. Generally as Asia adopts more bits of culture, or lack of it, from the West, they are eating more and becoming more unhealthy. Add that many of the women who would have opted to be working girls have more options available to them today, which is great.

Chantik
01-02-13, 05:45
We aren't still as cute. We are all handsome men.

And what does whether they can work as escorts online or not come into play. Just walk the streets, visit cafes, malls, etc. Generally as Asia adopts more bits of culture, or lack of it, from the West, they are eating more and becoming more unhealthy. Add that many of the women who would have opted to be working girls have more options available to them today, which is great.I still don't understand why IMO that guys are just as handsome as 10 or 20 years ago, but according to guys the quality of women is dropping.

So in other words the attractiveness of men is the same, but women as a race are becoming more unattractive.

I am unsure about Asian women eating more western food. All food is the same. Meat / vegetables / fish / grains etc. It's just that we have different cooking styles.

This topic will cause lots of discussion.

SE Asia Joe
01-02-13, 06:09
I still don't understand why IMO that guys are just as handsome as 10 or 20 years ago, but according to guys the quality of women is dropping.

So in other words the attractiveness of men is the same, but women as a race are becoming more unattractive.

I am unsure about Asian women eating more western food. All food is the same. Meat / vegetables / fish / grains etc. It's just that we have different cooking styles.

This topic will cause lots of discussion.Errr. Not much to understand I think!

It's got a lot to do with socio-economic factors:

Guys (alongside the whole world) are earning a lot more with each passing year. And thus we are now able to afford better and better "fare" and our taste becomes more refined / discerning / demanding better. Thus sort of narrowing our own field.

Women. Especially the better looking ones / with better qualifications are shunning sex work as other opportunities abound, thus leaving only those with lower expectations / inherently lower quality.

Nothing to do with diet or kind of food eaten.no matter what food, what race, there are always good looking people amongst all the rest.

And the painful fact of the matter is that most guys consider youth as important as other factors. And in Asia generally, ladies over 26 are considered over the hill! It's worse in places like China / Vietnam / other less economically developed countries where any gal over 23 or 25 is relegated to the Old spinster category.

SEAJ

Boarer
01-02-13, 08:23
women. especially the better looking ones / with better qualifications are shunning sex work as other opportunities abound, thus leaving only those with lower expectations / inherently lower quality.as the old saying goes, there are always exceptions. a us olympic gal admits to tricking and leo closed down a zumba studio for selling sex.


isn't the number of "younger than me" girls available increasing by the day? whereas the number of "older than them and rich" guys is decreasing equivalently.i would say "decreasing exponentially."


i prefer older gals. 25-39.my 2 fengs is that i like 24-28 and maybe beyond. problem is that all girls are not very upfront on the question of age so i have no idea if i am hitting within my range. lol.


this posting is more in the way of some incite into the problemdude, everyone discriminates everywhere. its just the way people are. take an impartial view at your peers. i love the dutch influence in indo because the monetary expectations are a lot less.

Boarer
01-02-13, 08:28
You need to make a New Year's Resolution. Ladies are just as beautiful as 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Things always look better through the ' mists of time '.

Lots of handsome guys out there. I notice no differenceHeh heh. My last one was 35 and slipped through the quality control because her bod was still in great shape (after kid) and the dim lighting and my mind being preoccupied with other matters. Dilbert had a great series on how a handsome wallet makes a man irresistible to women.

Chantik
01-02-13, 14:44
Errr. Not much to understand I think!

It's got a lot to do with socio-economic factors:

Guys (alongside the whole world) are earning a lot more with each passing year. And thus we are now able to afford better and better "fare" and our taste becomes more refined / discerning / demanding better. Thus sort of narrowing our own field.

Women. Especially the better looking ones / with better qualifications are shunning sex work as other opportunities abound, thus leaving only those with lower expectations / inherently lower quality.

Nothing to do with diet or kind of food eaten. No matter what food, what race, there are always good looking people amongst all the rest.

And the painful fact of the matter is that most guys consider youth as important as other factors. And in Asia generally, ladies over 26 are considered over the hill! It's worse in places like China / Vietnam / other less economically developed countries where any gal over 23 or 25 is relegated to the Old spinster category.

SEAJHave to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.

A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.

So you are agreeing. Woman look as attractive as 15 years ago. It's just that they are in different fields of work.

Chantik
01-02-13, 14:50
Heh heh. My last one was 35 and slipped through the quality control because her bod was still in great shape (after kid) and the dim lighting and my mind being preoccupied with other matters. Dilbert had a great series on how a handsome wallet makes a man irresistible to women.I am certain that you thought she looked under 30.

Chantik
01-02-13, 14:51
Mr Clen.

I would look at Non-Chinese ladies.

I assume that you are in China but there are Filipina's and Indonesians to be found.

Maybe go onto dating websites. You will find more luck.

Pita123
01-02-13, 15:35
Have to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.Most guys? Perhaps. Guys on ISG? Probably better than the average Joe at I'd'ing an Asian woman's age. I'm usually accurate to with a year after looking at their hands, nick, ears.


A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.Well-educated? As in Chula, CMU and Silpakorn or are we talking Ramkhamhaeng University? I certainly know sex workers with degrees but their degrees get them low paying jobs and they, and their family / boyfriends, become addicted to the money sex work brings in. Be interesting to meet a Chula grad sex worker.

We have a population growing less healthy and attractive due to fast food and too much alcohol combined with a wider range or opportunities for women who would have opted to be sex workers in the past. Thus, the cuteness of the overall population is declining and the proportion of cute sex workers is shrinking.

Chantik
01-02-13, 18:41
Most guys? Perhaps. Guys on ISG? Probably better than the average Joe at I'd'ing an Asian woman's age. I'm usually accurate to with a year after looking at their hands, nick, ears.

Well-educated? As in Chula, CMU and Silpakorn or are we talking Ramkhamhaeng University? I certainly know sex workers with degrees but their degrees get them low paying jobs and they, and their family / boyfriends, become addicted to the money sex work brings in. Be interesting to meet a Chula grad sex worker.

We have a population growing less healthy and attractive due to fast food and too much alcohol combined with a wider range or opportunities for women who would have opted to be sex workers in the past. Thus, the cuteness of the overall population is declining and the proportion of cute sex workers is shrinking.Pita.

With your unique talent in knowing a ladies age, you could be an excellent wing-man for new punters.

University Education. All countries are sending more and more people through University with the hope that it leads to well paid and enjoyable work. Unfortunately the quality and number of jobs hasn't increased by the same amount. This is why some Uni Graduates in Thailand prefer working in the sex industry. And it's very common in western countries for Uni students to set themselves up as Escorts to help pay Uni fees. And sometimes they continue that career. And many escorts in high level agencies are university educated.

Maybe one of the more experienced posters could give some more information about the Sex Industry. My understanding is that it's between the 4th to 7th biggest industry in the world. So you would think that many people work in this industry.

Fifty Shades
01-02-13, 19:51
Have to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.

A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.

So you are agreeing. Woman look as attractive as 15 years ago. It's just that they are in different fields of work.You make sense. Not only are there more opportunities for women these days, taking them out of the potential WG pool, there are many more rich Chinese men who can afford keeping "second" wives. That may be more attractive for a young 20-some year old. In my experience, after about age 27 or so, Chinese women become much less desirable for marriage, for cultural reasons. Below age 27 or so, the WG industry has competition from legit business opportunities, conventional marriages, and second wife arrangements. Above age 27 or so, if a Chinese woman hasn't married or doesn't have a good job, there are not many other opportunities. Since they look younger, they are still good candidates for the high end WG field.

Fifty Shades
01-02-13, 20:17
About to visit HK again. In the other cities I visit, it usually only takes eye contact to initiate conversation in a bar with a good looking WG. In places like Singapore, they stick to me like a cheap suit. Maybe it's just me, but that hasn't been my past experience in HK, limited as it is. The WGs in Wanchai have seemed more interested in dancing with themselves than meeting new customers. Fortunately, persistence has usually paid off. But am I missing the secret WG signal in HK. ? Are the bars starting to fill yet with people back from the holidays?

Bnlee2
01-02-13, 20:54
You make sense. Not only are there more opportunities for women these days, taking them out of the potential WG pool, there are many more rich Chinese men who can afford keeping "second" wives. That may be more attractive for a young 20-some year old. In my experience, after about age 27 or so, Chinese women become much less desirable for marriage, for cultural reasons. Below age 27 or so, the WG industry has competition from legit business opportunities, conventional marriages, and second wife arrangements. Above age 27 or so, if a Chinese woman hasn't married or doesn't have a good job, there are not many other opportunities. Since they look younger, they are still good candidates for the high end WG field.Many of the second / third wives and or mistresses comes out of the WG pool. Many of them knows how to use cosmetic and keep themselves trim. All they have is beauty and knows how to attract. Even the ones over thirty better than most of the twenty something girls here in America and know what a man likes. The smart one are the one that already have save enough money from their lo gon and have back up plans. The smart one are the one that knows how to use the money from what they get from their lo gons and create their own opportunities. I have seen done quite well. Some of them tries to get pregnant and hoping to get a son, so that their benefactor continues to pay after their beauty begins to fade.

SE Asia Joe
01-03-13, 05:09
Have to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.

A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.

So you are agreeing. Woman look as attractive as 15 years ago. It's just that they are in different fields of work.Grudging admiration. That is what I have for you niek!

On your ability to enthrall so many with your various postings on just about anything and to still be able to prevail on a male dominated. And customer I / o provider oriented. Board such as this!

But on this point you are perhaps projecting badly on your own set of circumstances. Yeah quite a few mongers wouldn't know, or actually care how old a provider really is, as the whole package is what usually attracts us; it's not as if we're going to marry you and ride off into the sunset with! Especially when one's judgement is clouded by alcohol and / or extreme horniness! And your postings here. A very nice touch! Kudos!

That is what I got to say about being able to tell a girl's age. Even Asian ones. I can actually very easily tell how old a girl is and I would think a lot of guys can also. And no matter how much you may protest, the fact of the matter is that you are at least 33 years old!

And about University education etc. I can detect from your full grasp of the English language that you are most probably quite well educated. And that you yourself still continue in this "career" of yours, well, please be honest with yourself if with nobody else. Did you actually make a rational, well thought out and reasoned decision to continue on this line of work? Or was it just one day following another? The working conditions is good, laying down on the job is a dream for many, the ego is stroked and more so, the money is GREAT and able to afford you a life that many of your contemporaries can only dream about. Was it REALLY a conscious decision on your part to continue hooking?

As far as the "overall beauty" of girls in general. Well we DO have more (too much) of now voluptuous Asian women. And Independent escorting is GREAT for such women as photoshopping does a great job in sculpting bodies. And oh yeah, hiding age too! When was the last time you and your more mature girl friends able to get an "assignment" IRL?

Just sayin'! LOL.

SEAJ

Boarer
01-03-13, 06:53
they stick to me like a cheap suit.Get to know the mamasan at a curtained or uncurtained place and she will make sure they stick to you till your money runs out. FWIW, I am new to the game and find that even freelance WG have standards. It is pretty funny. At some of the bars, the WG do cherry pick. One client like SirMajalot or JTL and they have filled their daily quota (or their quota was filled). The 141 gals will have to get 3+ clients to match plus they have to pay for their own room, which is probably "controlled". I have heard / seen many WG refuse clients, in many countries. However, I am not sure how the right for refusal works for escorts. In short, I think freelancer WG require a certain amount of wooing. Managed girls have the pimps with fire under their feet to accept any client.

Chantik
01-03-13, 11:34
About to visit HK again. In the other cities I visit, it usually only takes eye contact to initiate conversation in a bar with a good looking WG. In places like Singapore, they stick to me like a cheap suit. Maybe it's just me, but that hasn't been my past experience in HK, limited as it is. The WGs in Wanchai have seemed more interested in dancing with themselves than meeting new customers. Fortunately, persistence has usually paid off. But am I missing the secret WG signal in HK. ? Are the bars starting to fill yet with people back from the holidays?Think it depends on what bar you visit. Some bars get more gwailo's and the ladies prefer this kind of man. Of course if you go the Kowloon side which attract more Asian guys the preference is for Asian guys.

One way to attract the attention of most Asian woman is to make them laugh. Your bad jokes that make lady gwailo's run away, will make Asian ladies run to you. Especially Indonesian ladies love to laugh.

Chantik
01-03-13, 11:36
Sean.

Please make your posts shorter. I am getting a headache!

I know now that there are 2 guys who know an Asian ladies age.

Now to help Boarer.

SE Asia Joe
01-03-13, 14:09
Sean.

Please make your posts shorter. I am getting a headache!

I know now that there are 2 guys who know an Asian ladies age.

Now to help Boarer.LMAO!

Very disappointed Niek, very disappointed!

That you of all people would cop out when things gets too close for comfort!

LMAO!

SEAN

SE Asia Joe
01-03-13, 14:23
Many of the second / third wives and or mistresses comes out of the WG pool. Many of them knows how to use cosmetic and keep themselves trim. All they have is beauty and knows how to attract. Even the ones over thirty better than most of the twenty something girls here in America and know what a man likes. The smart one are the one that already have save enough money from their lo gon and have back up plans. The smart one are the one that knows how to use the money from what they get from their lo gons and create their own opportunities. I have seen done quite well. Some of them tries to get pregnant and hoping to get a son, so that their benefactor continues to pay after their beauty begins to fade.Yes, this probably / quite easily is the case in Mainland China. But this is the Hong Kong board you're posting on.

Takes a lot more to impress / attract in Hong Kong than just an American passport or Western affectations and unless you're really earning serious bucks (and in Hong Kong, serious bucks IS serious bucks) you're going to be out cold.

Just my POV.

SEAN

Andy Uk
01-04-13, 12:00
Hi All,

I will soon be visiting Hong Kong for the first time and was wondering if there are usually working girls in the bars of most of the business hotels?

Many thanks for any information.

Andy

JackTheLad2
01-04-13, 18:24
Hi All,

I will soon be visiting Hong Kong for the first time and was wondering if there are usually working girls in the bars of most of the business hotels?

Many thanks for any information.

AndyMaybe others will know better, but my experience of staying in many different HK hotels in the island and mainland over the years is that there are no WG's frequenting the bars of business hotels other than Hari's bar in the Holiday Inn.

Chantik
01-04-13, 19:48
Hi All,

I will soon be visiting Hong Kong for the first time and was wondering if there are usually working girls in the bars of most of the business hotels?

Many thanks for any information.

AndyYou do get a few in the bars of 5 star hotels. They are usually discreet and most often local ladies. And they usually charge extra because you are in a business bar.

You may have to hit the bars in wanchai or escort agencies or try independent escorts.

Johnny Rocket
01-04-13, 20:56
Hope everyone had a Happy Christmas.

Last week I visited a 141 girl in the Fuji Bldg 10 / F A side, can't remember door 1 or 2 but it's the one on the right as you face them. Name was something like Yiu yiu or Yoyo.

Whatever you do, don't go to see her. Bad experience from start to finish. Asked me to hurry before I ever stuck it in, then told me it hurt when it was not even half way in, yeah yeah same old bullshit.

After we had the initial shower she dropped my towel on the floor so of course I was not going to re-use it. In post-fuck shower I took a new towel and she protested one towel per customer. I told her my first towel is on the floor, I'm not using it again. Then she takes another off the stack and smacks me in the face with it! Are you fucking kidding me?

Plus when I was walking to the door fumbling around in my wallet she accused me of trying to run without paying. Well I shouldn't have paid because she was so awful but of course I did. I don't need Mr. Triad and his switchblade suddenly appearing to resolve the dispute.

Maddog40
01-04-13, 21:39
OK, had a good experience at SF couple of months ago with a Fillapino. Was on the right side of the two entrances. One or two drinks and was DFK and sucking on titties. Ended up taking her away and it was a nice experience but cost 3500HKD for the night.

Anyone else have any experiences here?

Thanks.

MD40

Member #4698
01-04-13, 22:31
Try the Ozone Bar on the 118th Floor of the Ritz Carlton Hotel on Austin Road. The bar has an amazing view of the Victoria Harbor and expensive "high class" girls can sometimes be found there especially on Thursday through Saturday nights. It is worth a shot and the price of an excellent martini.

Hari's used to be great for high quality Mongolian, Korean, and Thai girls, but the last couple of times I was there, I did not see any girls of higher quality than can be had in Wanchai. I still go there once a trip in the vain hope of finding someone great. I miss the days when those hot Mongolian girls were around. The last time I went there the selection was so poor, I ended up talking to a friendly, naturally endowed, large breasted Portuguese girl. She seemed nice, but I don't travel to the other side of the world to shag white girls. Who knows, I might have missed out on something good.

JackTheLad2
01-04-13, 23:08
OK, had a good experience at SF couple of months ago with a Fillapino. Was on the right side of the two entrances. One or two drinks and was DFK and sucking on titties. Ended up taking her away and it was a nice experience but cost 3500HKD for the night.

Anyone else have any experiences here?

Thanks.

MD40You only need to go back to 30/12/12 to read Sir MarjaLot's experience in SF.

Maybe you had a nice experience, but $3500!

You should have gone across the road to NM and you would have got the same experience from one of the many DH's (or, if you are lucky, a WG) for about $1000

Bnlee2
01-05-13, 05:09
Yes, this probably / quite easily is the case in Mainland China. But this is the Hong Kong board you're posting on.

Takes a lot more to impress / attract in Hong Kong than just an American passport or Western affectations and unless you're really earning serious bucks (and in Hong Kong, serious bucks IS serious bucks) you're going to be out cold.

Just my POV.

SEANSean.

My humble apologies. You are correct. In HK it does require a bit more $$$'s. I still have been able to do a few (someone else's) mistress on the side in the past using my ABC charms and wits. It just a bit more time and discretion.

SE Asia Joe
01-05-13, 06:04
Sean.

My humble apologies. You are correct. In HK it does require a bit more $$$'s. I still have been able to do a few (someone else's) mistress on the side in the past using my ABC charms and wits. It just a bit more time and discretion.No, of course no apologies expected or wanted. I just wanted to clarify to others who may be under the impression that its that easy in Hong Kong.

And the way that things has been in the USA past few years, the lure of the "Gold Mountain" has really lost most of its luster!

SEAN

Maddog40
01-05-13, 06:27
Jack, thanks. Yes, expensive but enjoyable dinner evening then fun til morning and future evenings on the side. What is DH? And Is NM New Mexico's?


You only need to go back to 30/12/12 to read Sir MarjaLot's experience in SF.

Maybe you had a nice experience, but $3500!

You should have gone across the road to NM and you would have got the same experience from one of the many DH's (or, if you are lucky, a WG) for about $1000

Chantik
01-05-13, 13:13
Jack, thanks. Yes, expensive but enjoyable dinner evening then fun til morning and future evenings on the side. What is DH? And Is NM New Mexico's?3500 is about the price for Long time from the Velvet Bars.

One thing is that the girls need to perform well and please the customer.

There is no running out after one pop. Long time means long time.

JackTheLad2
01-05-13, 13:43
What is DH? And Is NM New Mexico's?DH (or DW) is a domestic helper or worker (maid). Usually from Indonesia.

NM is New Makati, where a lot of the DH's hang out on their day off. Numerous reports on previous pages of punters having a great time with them.

Andy Uk
01-05-13, 16:24
You do get a few in the bars of 5 star hotels. They are usually discreet and most often local ladies. And they usually charge extra because you are in a business bar.

You may have to hit the bars in wanchai or escort agencies or try independent escorts.Thanks Chantik. From another post in this forum I found a link to ****** but this site does not seem to cover girls who offer outcall service to hotels, only outcall that I can find is massage "without sexual services". Any recommendations for a good site to find independent escorts in Hong Kong Kong please?

Thanks,

Andy

Chantik
01-05-13, 19:41
Thanks Chantik. From another post in this forum I found a link to * but this site does not seem to cover girls who offer outcall service to hotels, only outcall that I can find is massage "without sexual services". Any recommendations for a good site to find independent escorts in Hong Kong Kong please?

Thanks,

AndyThere is a classified section in the HK part of this thread.

Or you could try adultwork / sexyescortads / girl directory / craigs list.

Good luck

Chantik
01-05-13, 19:48
Jack's previous post about D / H for 1000 a night at NM got me thinking.

Go into NM any night and you will probably 5 or 6 D / H who are waiting to start a new job or have lost their jobs. The D / H have 2 to 4 weeks to find work or have to leave HK. And they stay in boarding houses with 6 girls to a room, so staying in a nice bed is good.

These ladies are the ones that you can get for taxi money.

How do you spot them in NM.

- Tend to be dressed casually.

- Flat Shoes.

- No false eyelashes / colored nails.

- Little or no jewellery.

- Often sit quietly on the sofas.

These ladies are usually found by guys who live in HK. They rather have residents so they can stay for a week or two. Or even convince the guy to sign an employment contract.

These ladies can be found by visitors but you need luck.

Got to congratulate Johnny Rocket - he is a true punter - will try to find ladies in all different types of situations - He is willing to find the ' rare nugget '.

Matiz
01-05-13, 22:01
I know you've all heard it before, but since I got so much useful information on this forum, I feel obliged to report on my results. I was in HK over Christmas with family and friends, so I had only limited chances to wander off on my own. My best chance was, ironically, on Christmas day itself when everyone took the MTR to Temple St. Night market. Of course, we all agreed to meet in an hour, just enough time for me to walk the short block over to Woosung St. And K-pressure.

Walked upstairs and was greeted by older man and woman who immediately led me to a karaoke booth. From the forum, I knew the drill, so I nodded as papasan gave me a cup of tea and showed me a beat-up laminated card with a bunch of characters on it and a number-510. I nodded. He brought in the first contestant, Mimi, a 25-30 year old from Shenzhen with no English skills. My Mandarin is limited to asking where the bathroom is, so I just checked out the goods manually while she giggled and grabbed my package. After a pleasant five minutes or so of groping, Papasan returns and takes Mimi away.

Mamasan (who speaks some English) comes in to seal the deal. I knew I could ask to see other girls, but Mimi was certainly do-able and time was of the essense, so I paid the 510 HK and Mimi and I went upstairs to the honeymoon suite. I actually was impressed with the room-clean, huge tiled shower, clean sheets and towels. I'm used to Tijuana (Mexico for those who aren't familiar with it) , where some of the ST hotel rooms are pretty grim third-world dumps, and Mexicanas are not especially reknowned for their hygiene. (Many laughingly refer to squatting over the sink to wash their panocha after sex as a "Mexican shower").

So I was quite pleased with Mimi's emphasis on cleanliness. We soaped and bathed and lathered and generally got squeaky clean. Then she put down the air mattress, placed a clean towel on it, soaked it with hot water, and motioned for me to lie face down. She then lathered both of us up and gave me my first soapie. Pretty nice feeling having her rub her body all over mine. Then the flip and some BBTF to get my amigo ready.

She rinsed us off and led me to the bed for a very slow and erotic BBBJ, complete with the "fire and ice" treatment. She hopped on for CG, then some mish and finally doggie. I have to admit the floor-to-ceiling mirrors were pretty cool. I could see her pretty face and gorgeous ass on display from multiple angles at the same time. Kind of like watching a porn movie and starring in it at the same time. If only I could have blotted out the image of the old geezer porking the cute young Chinese girl, it would have been perfect. I finally popped and she cleaned me up. She then pointed to my amigo and gave a smile and a thumbs up. I'd like to believe this indicated "wow, you're a real stud," but I suspect it mean,"thanks for cumming in the condom and not on my face." Showered with Mimi again, dressed, and was out the door exactly at the 45 minute mark to meet up with my friends on Temple Street.

Overall, pretty average experience for the sex itself, but a definite B plus on the erotic aspects-the soapie, fire and ice, mirrors, ambience, etc. And certainly an A plus for hygiene. Having experience it once, though, the mystery is gone, and I think I'd probably opt for the 141 experience next time as well as a chance to visit the Wanchai bars if I have the time.

My only suggestions to newbies at KP would be, first, read all the information on this site, since it's voluminous and answers 99% of your questions. Second, pay careful attention to the information about which exits to use from the MTR since HK has some enormous MTR stations with a large number of exits. You can get spit out on Jordan just a block or so from KP or you can screw up and get spit out on a side street and be completely confused. Finally, if you have the time, ask to see several girls. You may end up with the first one anyway, but the window shopping is fun.

Thanks for all the useful information.

Tiger 888
01-06-13, 02:44
Go into NM any night and you will probably 5 or 6 D / H who are waiting to start a new job or have lost their jobs. The D / H have 2 to 4 weeks to find work or have to leave HK. And they stay in boarding houses with 6 girls to a room, so staying in a nice bed is good.

These ladies are the ones that you can get for taxi money.Right. And they would continue to see you for taxi money (after they got their new job) on Sunday mornings and report how much they have made last Sunday afternoon from guys who spend big. I once kept a large sum for one of the girls (she brought some Sunday by Sunday) until she could open her bank account because the agency still held her passport.

Chantik
01-06-13, 12:45
Business travellers are back in town.

So this means more ladies will be out in Wanchai.

Lewis And Clark
01-06-13, 15:21
Business travellers are back in town.

So this means more ladies will be out in Wanchai.Interesting observation. Kinda obvious really.

In the mean time, in the interests of providing useful information for punters, a word of warning about a new (and old) trick doing the rounds of the curtain bars in Lockhart Road. I call it "The Callback Scam." Punter gets enamoured with girl from curtain bar, a quick feel in the booth, decides to pay the mega hyped price to take her out LT. Off to the hotel for the deed. After completion, girl recuses herself to the bathroom, sends a quick text to mama and returns for post coital cuddle. 5 minutes later her phone rings, girl finishes call and looks up with sad eyes. Honey, we have an emergency in the bar, Mama says my friend at the bar tried to kill herself (insert any other excuse here) and I need to get back there now. Sorry honey. Punter grumbles but eventually gives in and goes to sleep. Five minutes later, girl is back in the bar, up and ready for the next assignment.

Always make sure she turns off the phone to ensure value for money.

Sammon
01-06-13, 16:23
Interesting observation. Kinda obvious really.

In the mean time, in the interests of providing useful information for punters, a word of warning about a new (and old) trick doing the rounds of the curtain bars in Lockhart Road. I call it "The Callback Scam." Punter gets enamoured with girl from curtain bar, a quick feel in the booth, decides to pay the mega hyped price to take her out LT. Off to the hotel for the deed. After completion, girl recuses herself to the bathroom, sends a quick text to mama and returns for post coital cuddle. 5 minutes later her phone rings, girl finishes call and looks up with sad eyes. Honey, we have an emergency in the bar, Mama says my friend at the bar tried to kill herself (insert any other excuse here) and I need to get back there now. Sorry honey. Punter grumbles but eventually gives in and goes to sleep. Five minutes later, girl is back in the bar, up and ready for the next assignment.

Always make sure she turns off the phone to ensure value for money.It is nothing new. First and foremost is to discuss in detail about the arrangement before you take her. Do not give money upfront. So if she leaves earlt give ST price only.

HK is safe for punters. Girls are unlikely to make a scene or threaten to call the police etc.

Tiger 888
01-07-13, 02:35
I's really getting boring. Those who have been to Wanchai on a Sunday have probably seen that the majority of girls does not go there for money only but to have fun as well. And the fact that they remain friends means they can't feel too bad about it.

And yes, the ones who hunt money can be recognized by the way they are dressed. So Chantik is spot on.

Tiger 888
01-07-13, 07:36
As far as the Indonesian helpers go, the real bad guys are those agencies illegally taking about 6 months salary (withholding passports until paid up - again illegal) and the corrupt Indonesian embassy for protecting them by requiring to involve an agency. And the girls of course too scared to speak up and require their rights.

Chantik
01-07-13, 19:35
I hear that Skitz has changed its focus and re-opened on Sunday. Its on the 5th floor in the same building as Forest / Joe Bananas. It's supposed to be a club / disco. Maybe it is taking the place of Traffic. It's a small place. So unsure how it will go. But they need to make it attractive for the ladies.

Bit of history.

Skitz used to be located above The Firehouse and opened in the early 2000's . It was a large place. With one part as a sports bar and the other part was a club / disco / live music. From memory the band played reggae type music. It moved to its current location about two years ago, and was set up as a sports bar with pool tables and dart boards.

I will try to visit in the next few weeks. Possibly some guys can visit and take one for the team.

PinkPearl
01-08-13, 11:14
For a place to stay, what can I get for around 1200 USD a month in HKG?

BTW I noticed the HKG section here on ISG has 2 General Reports sections & no hotels thread.

Maybe someone could get the latter created?

AussieDoug
01-08-13, 14:33
For a place to stay, what can I get for around 1200 USD a month in HKG?

BTW I noticed the HKG section here on ISG has 2 General Reports sections & no hotels thread.

Maybe someone could get the latter created?Literally a rat hole, that is about what a cheap room will cost, that's 10, 000 HKD a month, only small flats surrounded by Chinese, not a very hygenic place either, maybe out in the boonies. I looked at that myself, decided against it, Hong Kong is a very expensive place to live like a white man. And don't kid your self you can do anything else, unless you intend crawling into a bottle too.

Tiger 888
01-08-13, 21:56
Literally a rat hole, that is about what a cheap room will cost, that's 10, 000 HKD a month, only small flats surrounded by Chinese, not a very hygenic place either, maybe out in the boonies. I looked at that myself, decided against it, Hong Kong is a very expensive place to live like a white man. And don't kid your self you can do anything else, unless you intend crawling into a bottle too.Nah, in the new territories like Yuen Long or even Shatin 10.000 HK$ can get you a decent 1 BR flat. Add 50% and you can get a decent 1 BR almost everywhere.

Fifty Shades
01-09-13, 01:19
I agree with SEAJ about the girls. The DH I hooked up with the past few days (met in NM) was being forced to go home to indo soon because of mistreatment by employer, and she had to pay 7 months to her agency, out of the last year of work. Basically she's going home broke to a bad situation. She never once asked me for money and I am sure she doesn't consider herself a part-time WG, but she gratefully accepted the 1500 gift I gave her for each night (plus meals during our time together) , as long as I described it as a gift and not payment. Wild in bed and really seemed to enjoy it. Why did she go with me, since I am not young or particularly good looking, and I don't live in HK so I can't give her a contract? I think she was looking to be saved somehow, by somebody. Irrational, sure. I am sure I didn't have to give her anything more than taxi money. But I feel that there was a lot of good karma in giving her the appropriate gifts her for her time. There is no shame in depending on the kindness of strangers. Being able to sleep with a clear conscious afterwards is priceless.


Yes the girls all come to Wanchai of their own free accord but the problem is that Chantik specifically pointed out those who are in dire straits and even gave pointers on how to spot these girls who are basically just NOT experienced in hooking. These are girls who IMHO do come out to Wanchai BUT ONLY because they have little else choice but to try to sell their bodies.

And Chantik then disgustingly suggesting that these girls could / should easily be dismissed with just taxi money instead of what they should be earning for having sold their body.

I have no gripes whatsoever about these type of activities. Either by the DH or by us guys practising this. All's quite fair and just adult behaviour here.

The employers are only single perpetrators of these schemes to skim DH's money; it is the employment agencies in conjunction with the agreement of the consular / government officials that should be the target of investigations by the ICAC.

DESIGNATED Employment agencies are empowered to charge usurious rates for supposed training, health check, travel arrangements for the DH'ds and then to even hold on to DH's passports / employment contract until they get their pound of flesh, all with the approval and accommodation of various officials both in Hong Kong as wel as in Indonesia. Similar things happens in the Philippines where the Government itself have all these exit fees, work permits, licenses, training requirements etc etc before granting their own citizens the right to work overseas. Sad, really sad.

SEAJ

FlyingFlying
01-10-13, 07:00
Hello HK board.

I visited HK late last year and, thanks to the many informative reports on this board, I was able to enjoy a really great time with a DH freebie on a Sunday.

I was thinking of visiting HK again soon. Can anyone comment on how the situation is during the Chinese New Year Holiday (about Feb 10-14)? Do the domestic helpers have holidays too, and will they be out looking for some fun?

ShanBoy
01-10-13, 14:22
Guys,

I got down to HK for 4 week visit and currently based in hotel at Kowloon east. Can someone give me reliable source to have an appoinment with. Even to walk in to my hotel also fine.

Thanks in advance

BeijingCbc
01-10-13, 14:34
Was recently in HK for a two week long trip over the Christmas holidays. Didn't have much time for mongering as I was busy visiting family and friends but I did manage to make it out to K-pressure a couple times and had a nice DH from the Philippines stay with me for a few days.

First K-pressure. A bit disappointing to be honest in the quality of girls (or at least the ones I was shown) but still very good price and bang for your buck. Maybe it has something to do with the time of day I went? Both my visits were in the late afternoon, around 4 or 5 pm so maybe the stunners haven't started their shift yet? Maybe someone more familiar with the place can comment on this?

Its very easy to find after RTFF, walked into the building, pass the elevators and up the stairs. Greeted by an older woman dressed in black and led to a waiting room. Offered a cup of tea and moments later, a girl arrives. First visit, mainland girl is immediately very friendly, lots of touching and kissing. I'm based in Beijing so I'm also chatting with her in mandarin. Older woman comes back and asks if the girl is acceptable. I say yes since we were getting on pretty well, probably should have seen another. The reason is that those waiting rooms are so dark, its really hard to get a good look at the girl. Once we get into the light, I can see she's not that attractive, a bit older and very saggy breasts.

Second visit, I saw a couple different ones but still not the best. Ended up settling on a thicker girl but with an attractive face. Both times after picking the girl, paid the 390 HKD (400) fee and then led upstairs to pay the 120 HKD room fee. Service both times were pretty similar. Assisted shower, never made use of the air mattress either time, BBBJ with fire and ice. 69, multiple positions, one shot. Again, disappointing in the quality of girls but you know what you're getting and price is decent.

Also check out the bars in Wan Chai on the weekend but the DH I ended up hooking up with, I chatted up inside a PCCW in cwb while I was buying my 3G rechargeable SIM. I have a condo near the Gold Coast so was kinda difficult convincing her to come back with me since its so far away. But after buying her dinner and a couple drinks, she was more than happy to make the trip. She spend the night and came up for a couple more nights the next weekend.

All in all, HK was decent. I'm planning to visit again during Chinese New Year but maybe devote more of my time to mongering then.

Chantik
01-10-13, 18:23
WTF are you talking about? She was simply telling people how it works, not saying this is what you should do. Fact is, that these girls will be plenty happy with some taxi money, a nice place to sleep and a good guy they can see when they are free. A girl that is happy with this arrangement isn't selling herself for money but simply looking for companionship and comfort. Same happens in Singapore. It is taking advantage if you are leading her on with promises of a payday. Otherwise just two adults enjoying each other's company.

While I'm somewhat dubious as to the authenticity of Chantik, all she did was explain some mechanics of the scene.Pita.

Thanks for your kind words.

I am certain that you have made some D / H's happy!

Chantik
01-10-13, 18:26
Hello HK board.

I visited HK late last year and, thanks to the many informative reports on this board, I was able to enjoy a really great time with a DH freebie on a Sunday.

I was thinking of visiting HK again soon. Can anyone comment on how the situation is during the Chinese New Year Holiday (about Feb 10-14)? Do the domestic helpers have holidays too, and will they be out looking for some fun?Will be lots of D / H having holidays and less guys around than usual. Particularly local guys. Probably find that 2 of the days will be like sunday afternoon and the other three will be like a Saturday afternoon.

Hope that you pay the D / H well or there will be one or two unhappy people.

SE Asia Joe
01-10-13, 19:17
Most of the PRC gals that comes over to Hong Kong are those on these group travel visas, especially those manning the Hotel Walk-ins and a the yellow board places in Mongkok. The powers that be seems to have closed this loophole allowing them to come to Hong Kong individually instead of being required to be part of a group. I can see a shortage of gals because of this, until the pimps / gangs figures out a way around this. Perhaps them arranging for groups consisting of all WG's?

South China Morning Post, Thursday 10-1-2013.

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1124185/shenzhen-closes-loophole-mainland-visitors-hong-kong


Shenzhen closes loophole on mainland visitors to Hong Kong

Thursday. 10 January. 2013, 12:00am.

Fiona Tam fiona.tam@scmp.com

Shenzhen has closed an apparent loophole involving mainland tourists travelling to Hong Kong, by requiring those who are not entitled to the individual visit scheme to be part of tour groups.

The regulation, implemented on Monday by Shenzhen's Culture, Sport and Tourism Bureau, says holidaymakers who do not hold permanent residency in Guangdong, or in 28 other cities that fall under the individual travel scheme, must enter as part of a tour group rather than simply pay 50 yuan (HK$61. 50) to obtain a fake group-travel certificate from travel agents at the border.

More than 100 mainland tourists who tried to use fake group-travel certificates were stopped at the border on Tuesday, and 75 others from three groups were delayed because their agents were late in submitting travel information, the Shenzhen-based Daily Sunshine reported.

A Shenzhen tourism official said the crackdown was not linked to rampant smuggling, in which gangs often split goods into small lots that are carried from Hong Kong to the mainland by individuals, to evade taxes.

"Most smugglers travelling between Hong Kong and Shenzhen have multi-entry visas to Hong Kong and aren't required to travel as a group," he said.

"But this doesn't mean that the individual visit scheme will be tightened in the future, as that is regulated by the central government, not Shenzhen."

Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying said in September that Shenzhen's plan to allow millions of its migrant residents easier access to Hong Kong would be put on hold until Hong Kong had examined its capacity to receive more visitors.

BoneyM69
01-10-13, 19:20
Hi all you wonderful & helpful people.

I will be visiting Hong Kong & Macau in the next couple of weeks & was wondering if anybody could tell me where I could get a NURU MASSAGE? & how you would rate the service.

Thank you for all your info

JackTheLad2
01-10-13, 21:00
While I'm somewhat dubious as to the authenticity of Chantik, all she did was explain some mechanics of the scene.Can guarantee the authenticity of Chantik!

BoneyM69
01-10-13, 22:32
Hi all you wonderful & helpful people.

I will be visiting Hong Kong & Macau in the next couple of weeks & was wondering if anybody could tell me where I could get a NURU MASSAGE? & how you would rate the service.

Thank you for all your info

Mcsfo2004
01-11-13, 04:43
Pita, I must agree with you. I have re-read Chantik's pragmatic remarks I simply do not see an "hard edge" to what she says (same for her many other posts).

Anyway, to all, be well and enjoy New Year.


Thanks. Now to verify your authenticity. Hahaha.

You have lost the plot mate. Go back and read her post without your bias. She mentioned girls waiting to start jobs in the same breath as those who lost their jobs. In both cases happy to find a nice comfy place to spend time rather than the bunkhouse with another 20 women. She said you will be able to get them for taxi money, not that you should cheat them and give them only taxi money. Without the bias, I read this as "they will be happy to go with you for taxi money". This is quite true, also in Singapore where I live, as many of them are simply looking for a nice time and comfy place. They don't see themselves as selling their body. We are allowed to have sex that doesn't involve payment you know. You may consider getting back with the program rather than carrying out a crusade against Chantik. Did she laugh at your naked body or what?

BionicMan
01-11-13, 05:24
Guys,

I got down to HK for 4 week visit and currently based in hotel at Kowloon east. Can someone give me reliable source to have an appoinment with. Even to walk in to my hotel also fine.

Thanks in advanceAs you have a good time ahead of you, what about taking advantage of RTTF?

Ramn HK
01-11-13, 07:25
I have seen some ads on Craigslist for this. No experience with this.

Have fun in Hong Kong!


Hi all you wonderful & helpful people.

I will be visiting Hong Kong & Macau in the next couple of weeks & was wondering if anybody could tell me where I could get a NURU MASSAGE? & how you would rate the service.

Thank you for all your info

WTF0506
01-11-13, 10:07
Try Hong kong tantric massage. PM me for the number. My wife and I had one of the girls over and wow! I still owe a report. LOL.


Hi all you wonderful & helpful people.

I will be visiting Hong Kong & Macau in the next couple of weeks & was wondering if anybody could tell me where I could get a NURU MASSAGE? & how you would rate the service.

Thank you for all your info

PinkPearl
01-11-13, 12:53
Can one survive in Hong Kong with only English? With getting around, taxis, hotels and the sex workers?

On only 2000 USD per month for hotel, close to the action (within a couple blocks) & shopping markets?

Can the ladies be called up, go to my room & be allowed in? If so would they require pre sex payment or accept it after the act?

Or would I be better off elsewhere like Angeles City or Phnom Penh?

Traveler1234
01-11-13, 15:54
Can one survive in Hong Kong with only English? With getting around, taxis, hotels and the sex workers?

On only 2000 USD per month for hotel, close to the action (within a couple blocks) & shopping markets?

Can the ladies be called up, go to my room & be allowed in? If so would they require pre sex payment or accept it after the act?

Or would I be better off elsewhere like Angeles City or Phnom Penh?Yes to 1 and 4, maybe Tiger888 can jump in and help.

SE Asia Joe
01-11-13, 17:35
Can one survive in Hong Kong with only English? With getting around, taxis, hotels and the sex workers?

On only 2000 USD per month for hotel, close to the action (within a couple blocks) & shopping markets?

Can the ladies be called up, go to my room & be allowed in? If so would they require pre sex payment or accept it after the act?

Or would I be better off elsewhere like Angeles City or Phnom Penh?US$2, 000 for a MONTH? Hate to break it to you bro, but Hong Kong is WAY expensive and there's no way that I can see you being able to accomplish all that you had outlined for that money.

Heck, even the hotel cost alone will eat up all of that amount! But say you decide to stay at a boarding house instead, that will still cost approximately US$40-50 per night! Serviced apartments. At least US$2, 000 / month and there is NO short term rental of regular apartments unless you get lucky going through the local expat web sites I. E. AsiaExpat where somebody may offer their apartment for short terms whilst they go off on their own holidays etc.

Surviving only in English in Hong Kong should not be a problem as there are a LOT of people in HOng KOng who do NOT speak any Chinese and they get along just fine.

Just IMHO.

SEAJ

Tiger 888
01-11-13, 22:16
Can one survive in Hong Kong with only English? With getting around, taxis, hotels and the sex workers?

On only 2000 USD per month for hotel, close to the action (within a couple blocks) & shopping markets?

Can the ladies be called up, go to my room & be allowed in? If so would they require pre sex payment or accept it after the act?

Or would I be better off elsewhere like Angeles City or Phnom Penh?2000 USD only for room is probably workable.

Close to the action in Chungking Mansions where the room has the size of the bed and shower plus a few square feet to stand on you may be able to get a room for half that. Luggage under the bed. In many places plus free bugs. Regular police raids at night for overstayers.

I suggest you check out airbnb. Com to get an idea how much accommodation costs. But the cheaper ones probably nowhere near the action, unless you go to 141 places, but there no English is usually spoken.

One in Wan Chai here for about 2000 USD: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/763257
Rental contracts of less than 1 months are not legal unless they have a hotel/guest house license.

Uncle Goober2
01-12-13, 05:27
You have lost the plot mate. Go back and read her post without your bias.
You MAY have a point in saying that I do have a certain bias against Chantik.

SEAJSave your breath, Pita. SEAJ will never concede a point. These exchanges will go nowhere (and are distracting us all from discussion about more relevant aspects of mongering).

Two points.

First, SEAJ always has had a burning desire to gainsay or take issue with just about everything Chantik says. Perhaps it is misogny, perhaps it is trolling, perhaps it is undiagnosed narcissism, perhaps it is perhaps it is because he thinks she is not really who she claims to be, or whatever.

Secondly, SEAJ is the self-appointed oracle and fount of knowledge and wisdom on this board and never takes a backward step, ever.

A few months ago we had the latest chapter of the old-chesnut debate that surfaces every now and again about respect to the WGs and whether it is disrespectful, on this mongers' board, to call filipinas "flippers", etc etc. SEAJ was strongly in the camp of not using that term, or similar terms.

Now, in the taxi-money debate, SAEJ is taking Chantik to task about suggesting (although as you and almost all the rest of us know she did not) that mongers should try to take advantage of poor down-on-their-luck DHs / WGs.

However, the hilarious point of it all, and sheer hypocrisy of the worst order, is that at the same time as taking Chantik to task, he is referring to her as a "Lonte", which is Javanese slang for w*ore. The word bears a hard and very deragatory meaning, as I am sure SEAJ is well aware.

If it is to be shame on anyone, SEAJ, on this occasion it is on you.

Chantik. Keep up the good work. Your posts are welcomed by almost all of us on the board. (PS, when do I get my much awaited Javanese massage? My neck is killing me!)

Cheers

PinkPearl
01-12-13, 14:00
I could deal with a couple cockroaches, but not the claustrophobia of living in a sardine can or the LE raids. A quiet place to live and sleep is a must.

I might be in my room 23 hours a day, so would like a room with some space, comparable to at least a 3 star in BKK that costs 40 or 50 bucks a night. My hotel in BKK also gives me a 30 percent discount for staying 30 days or more. So, if doable, such a reduced rate on a 100 USD a nighter in HKG would cost only a bit over 2000 USD. Beyond that I have funds for pooning, food, etc.

If the action can come to me, I don't need to go to it, so could be away from it as long as my place is close to markets & shopping, since my feet aren't up to walking more than about 30 minutes a day.

Tiger 888
01-13-13, 02:34
I could deal with a couple cockroaches, but not the claustrophobia of living in a sardine can or the LE raids. A quiet place to live and sleep is a must.

I might be in my room 23 hours a day, so would like a room with some space, comparable to at least a 3 star in BKK that costs 40 or 50 bucks a night. My hotel in BKK also gives me a 30 percent discount for staying 30 days or more. So, if doable, such a reduced rate on a 100 USD a nighter in HKG would cost only a bit over 2000 USD. Beyond that I have funds for pooning, food, etc.

If the action can come to me, I don't need to go to it, so could be away from it as long as my place is close to markets & shopping, since my feet aren't up to walking more than about 30 minutes a day.Not much chance. And if so, then not near the English speaking action = Wanchai.
Just to give you an idea: I know someone who lived in the Holiday Inn (known not to be a very good hotel, rooms are not big) for years and he paid 1500 HK$ (6000 THB) a night. When they increased the price to 2200 HK$ he moved out. In Hong Kong places are much smaller than in Bangkok.

You may be able to get a 2000 USD deal for one month if there are no events that month (The offest season thinkable). Otherwise prices go sky high for those days.

Uncle Goober2
01-13-13, 08:45
Can one survive in Hong Kong with only English? With getting around, taxis, hotels and the sex workers?

On only 2000 USD per month for hotel, close to the action (within a couple blocks) & shopping markets?

Can the ladies be called up, go to my room & be allowed in? If so would they require pre sex payment or accept it after the act?

Or would I be better off elsewhere like Angeles City or Phnom Penh?Pink, some points that need to be considered to help you with your question:

1. How long are you thinking about being here in HK? That is relevant to the types of accommodation that you can get. Some places are not available on a short term basis. The serviced apartment market really starts at about US$2, 500 per month.

2. Have you thought about your status to be in the country? Tourist visa or some other? Again, that is relevant to the types of accommodation that you can get.

As others have said, HK is a very expensive place to live. AC and PP certainly are cheaper, but are both considerably less sophisticated and with far worse infrastructure than HK.

Cheers

WTF0506
01-13-13, 14:20
Sorry behind on postings. Was in Hong Kong over Christmas with my SO and wanted to try a couple's massage. From a fellow member got number and website. Sent them e-mail and what we were looking for which was a massage for both of us and, shall we say, a happy ending for both. We got that and more!

She shows with a light tapping at the door. She is about 5'5" and maybe 110 lbs. With a cute tutu type skirt around her. Very cute maybe late 20's.

An extra charge for the masseuse to be naked.

It was SO first time being even in a room with a naked woman, and seeing her being massaged by a hot 28 yo Chinese and I knew it would be a fun time. Seeing her face down and her back arch up as the girl touched between her legs was so hot. When she flipped over the massage continued and I could see the girlfriend getting close but fighting it. Not wanting to cum as it was not me touching her. Lying next to her and asking her to just let go was more then enough to push her over the edge.

Not knowing what too far was for the girlfriend, my massage started and it was soon evident that she was really into it. The feeling of a professional level massage going on while your cock is being sucked is priceless. Oil and hands all over my body. Somehow we got to a position with the girlfriend below me and my cock being guided into her. The masseuse was now next to my GF as we fucked. I then see the girlfriend latch onto a nipple. I guide the gf hand to the girls pussy, which was soaked at this point. I pull out of the gf and then starting licking her while both of our hands are on our new friend. Seeing this other pussy just inches from my face was too much. I grabbed her legs and spread her out in front of me and started to lick her. I hear her say to my girlfriend kiss me. Looking up and seeing the two deep in a kiss really got me going. My tongue was working overtime and then heard the muffled screams from our friend as she was screaming into my girlfriends mouth as they kissed. No it was not a fake orgasm. My face was covered with juices.

We ended up with the GF in dogging and the masseuse under her with them kissing again. I am using her legs to pull the gf deeper on to my cock. I am leaving so many details out as we had a full two hours with her. GF has suggested she wants more of this. But only on vacations!

We shall see about that!

AussieDoug
01-13-13, 14:53
I could deal with a couple cockroaches, but not the claustrophobia of living in a sardine can or the LE raids. A quiet place to live and sleep is a must.

I might be in my room 23 hours a day, so would like a room with some space, comparable to at least a 3 star in BKK that costs 40 or 50 bucks a night. My hotel in BKK also gives me a 30 percent discount for staying 30 days or more. So, if doable, such a reduced rate on a 100 USD a nighter in HKG would cost only a bit over 2000 USD. Beyond that I have funds for pooning, food, etc.

If the action can come to me, I don't need to go to it, so could be away from it as long as my place is close to markets & shopping, since my feet aren't up to walking more than about 30 minutes a day.Your maths is a bit off. 30 nights in a month at USD100 pernight is closer to $3000, suggest you ask at Wesley Hotel in Wanchai, it's built iover the Wesley church and last time I walked by they were converting to long rent rooms, rooms are a bit small, but OK.

Uncle Goober2
01-14-13, 01:29
suggest you ask at Wesley Hotel in Wanchai, it's built iover the Wesley church and last time I walked by they were converting to long rent rooms, rooms are a bit small, but OK.Doug,

I believe that the Wesley is closed for renovation. Last time I passed it was late Dec, and it still looked closed then.

Cheers

JPF
01-14-13, 06:23
Forgive an actual FR:

I was a first timer checking out the "maid parade" in Wan Chai. I was disappointed.

All the bars have a dance area and a bar area. All are generally very loud which makes it very hard to hold a conversation. The dance floors are generally packed and the bar areas of many places are also packed so it is hard to impossible to move around. This makes it very difficult to see the women and get close enough to them to try to talk to them.

One thing I haven't seen written about in the forum is that some bars allow smoking and in some it is not permitted. As someone who dislikes smoke that was another negative for me.

Here are some specific points for some of the bars:

Smokey: Bar 109, Neptune 3.

Bar 109: very small (it was written that you shouldn't go in there if you are not drunk. I wasn't and it didn't seem very different than any other of the bars)

J Forest: started later and wasn't quite as loud as the other places.

New Makati: was quieter early in the afternoon but then they turned up the volume.

Players: smaller (but not as small as Bar 109) and noisier than average.

Escape: somewhat larger but very dark so hard to see anyone.

As for the women: I saw an awful lot of ordinary looking women and wasn't attracted to almost any. The one possible I saw (in New Makati) had a nice body and soso face and danced well. However, she was dancing when I came in and never stopped the whole time I was there, probably 45 minutes. I gave her a look and nod and she looked back. After awhile I went up to her and told her I would like to buy her a drink when she wanted a break. At one point another guy went up to her and started dancing next to her (his front to her back). She didn't give him any positive or negative feedback and just kept dancing. He left after a few minutes. When I left I waved to her and she waved back and that was that.

Women (who I wasn't interested in) came up to me or put their hand on my arm as I walked by in Bar 109 and Players but everywhere else no one gave me a look and all seemed only interested in dancing and hanging out with their friends.

AussieDoug
01-14-13, 12:22
Doug,

I believe that the Wesley is closed for renovation. Last time I passed it was late Dec, and it still looked closed then.

CheersI walked past in November, that's the renovation according to the sign out front, but when it will be finished I don't know. Prior to now they did do long term hotel room rates at 18, 000 per month, so it may fit the bill when the renos are finished.

PinkPearl
01-14-13, 15:07
Pink, some points that need to be considered to help you with your question:

1. How long are you thinking about being here in HK? That is relevant to the types of accommodation that you can get. Some places are not available on a short term basis. The serviced apartment market really starts at about US$2, 500 per month.

2. Have you thought about your status to be in the country? Tourist visa or some other? Again, that is relevant to the types of accommodation that you can get.

As others have said, HK is a very expensive place to live. AC and PP certainly are cheaper, but are both considerably less sophisticated and with far worse infrastructure than HK.

CheersI was thinking of spending 3 months at a time in HKG, twice a year. So 6 months annually.

My understanding is that with a US passport one can easily gain access to HKG for 3 months at a time as a tourist.

Personally it seems the expense of a decent HKG abode is a main disadvantage to choosing it as a long stay sex tourist destination. The listing posted by Tiger for 2000 USD a month is the best option I've seen in the Wan Chai area. Perhaps something similar but significantly cheaper can be found elsewhere in HKG.

I view Hong Kong having advantages over the 3rd world destinations in infrastructure, safety, medical, banking, legal prostitution, etc. I also prefer white skinned ladies seen on the 141 site, though read a report here that the service is likely to be poor. Nearby Macau with its casinos is another plus.

The Philippines OTOH has advantages in being relatively inexpensive for lodging & ladies, who have a rep for being passionate, are tested regularly for STIs & often willing for BBFS. Casinos are legal, hotels are all prostitute friendly, English spoken widely and a one year multi entry visa seems not difficult to obtain.

Pita123
01-14-13, 15:40
JPF.

You must be extremely fussy. Guys post that they see cute girls every Sunday.90%+ of the women at tea dancing, be it HKG or SIN are not objectively attractive. I may be generous in that assessment.

Chantik
01-14-13, 15:46
90%+ of the women at tea dancing, be it HKG or SIN are not objectively attractive. I may be generous in that assessment.The ladies are employed as Maids, not as models.

So not all can glam themselves up.

And see a model during the day - They look very average.


You have to be unlucky to only find one attractive lady.

PinkPearl
01-14-13, 15:58
Your maths is a bit off. 30 nights in a month at USD100 pernight is closer to $3000, suggest you ask at Wesley Hotel in Wanchai, it's built iover the Wesley church and last time I walked by they were converting to long rent rooms, rooms are a bit small, but OK.I was factoring in a 30 percent discount for a hotel stay of a month or more, which I get in BKK. So a 100 USD HKG hotel would be 2100 a month, a bit over 2K.

BTW in BKK my laundry & dry cleaning bill is about $3 a day or under 100 a month. The hotel does it for me. I don't know what it would cost in HKG, but in Canada that would run me closer to $1000.

Member #4698
01-14-13, 16:58
Chantik is a man posing as an Indonesian hooker, for some inexplicable reaeson. Steer clear, mate.How do you know this Gaijin? True, anybody could be anybody in the virtual world. I could be a 16 year old kid whacking off and making up reports in my mother's suburban basement. You could be a hermaphrodite. No flame intended. Unless you have definitive evidence to the contrary, I will continue to assume Chantik is exactly who she claims to be. No one else in the forum is questioned about their identity. Why single out Chantik? You can agree or disagree with her opinions and talking points, I certainly do at times, but at present, I see no reason to doubt her authenticity more than any other board member including you.

Fifty Shades
01-14-13, 17:07
Chantik is a man posing as an Indonesian hooker, for some inexplicable reaeson. Steer clear, mate.I am not sure why you would say this. I got tied up and wasn't able to schedule a date, but she sent me her picture and I spoke with her on the phone on my last time in HK. She spoke quite good English on the phone, and she is good looking in her picture, IMHO. She gave me no reason to think she isn't who she says she is.

Real0870
01-14-13, 21:14
Flew in late on Sunday night and had a few hours in wan chai.

Amazonia and escape appeared to be the main traffic.

Escape had the better looking girls IMHO.

Neptune was dead and the street traffic was the standard wan chai wrestling match.

Fell into one mama bar that was dead and the mama threw four girls at me and they all wanted a lady drink. All Thai girls ranging from 4-6. With bad lighting. As they were not that expensive I said sure and ended up with four very brief BBBJ's to say thanks for the drinks. A little fun for less than the cost of a lap dance back home.

Then the hard sell from the mama which I really hate so ended up leaving there and heading back to my hotel.

Ended up calling a 141 outcall massage who was great value and gave a good professional massage followed by an expert BBBJ with CIM.

Wan chai is really so easy to monger any way you like it.

WildHawk
01-14-13, 21:44
Chantik is a man posing as an Indonesian hooker, for some inexplicable reaeson. Steer clear, mate.Ah, Gaijin Gigolo (sigh).

I would refer you, and any doubters, to the numerous posts from esteemed ISGers who know, up close and personal, that Chantik is very real.

I nearly met up with the lovely (judging from her website) lass myself, sadly missing out, before departing HK, but hold out hope for the future.

If Chantik is a ruse, it would be a rather elaborate one involving punters whose comments I enjoy reading, and prefer to believe in.

HeavyFuel
01-15-13, 03:29
Ah, Gaijin Gigolo (sigh).

I would refer you, and any doubters, to the numerous posts from esteemed ISGers who know, up close and personal, that Chantik is very real.

I nearly met up with the lovely (judging from her website) lass myself, sadly missing out, before departing HK, but hold out hope for the future.

If Chantik is a ruse, it would be a rather elaborate one involving punters whose comments I enjoy reading, and prefer to believe in.Chantik is very real. And a very real treat I help myself to when in HK. I have to photos to prove that.

Gaijin Gigolo
01-15-13, 07:28
Wondering what you expected to find, exactly. I imagine you WERE disappointed if you were hoping for a room full of models and / or cute college age girls. There are some real gems to be found at all the clubs you mentioned, trust me on that.

Just for some added information, some of the girls in Bar 109, Players and to a lesser extent, Neptune 3 and J Forest are there ONLY to get guys to buy them a drink for which they get a commission. They will never hook up with you or anybody else or do anything beyond grope you at the bar for drinks. As you noticed, there are also those who are there simply to dance and have a good time without any plans for a shag. Lots of those, actually. Then there are the part-time pros who'll go with any guy who'll slip HKD500 in their purse on their way out your door after the deed is done. And THEN there those who are just looking for a shag with no payment expected, those are the keepers and they're easily approachable. You'll also see girls who appear to be in shock at the whole scene and spend their day clinging to each other with nervous excitement/awe as they wander from club to club. Fun to flirt with those just to see the astonishment on their faces. :-D


Forgive an actual FR:

I was a first timer checking out the "maid parade" in Wan Chai. I was disappointed.

All the bars have a dance area and a bar area. All are generally very loud which makes it very hard to hold a conversation. The dance floors are generally packed and the bar areas of many places are also packed so it is hard to impossible to move around. This makes it very difficult to see the women and get close enough to them to try to talk to them.

One thing I haven't seen written about in the forum is that some bars allow smoking and in some it is not permitted. As someone who dislikes smoke that was another negative for me.

Here are some specific points for some of the bars:

Smokey: Bar 109, Neptune 3.

Bar 109: very small (it was written that you shouldn't go in there if you are not drunk. I wasn't and it didn't seem very different than any other of the bars)

J Forest: started later and wasn't quite as loud as the other places.

New Makati: was quieter early in the afternoon but then they turned up the volume.

Players: smaller (but not as small as Bar 109) and noisier than average.

Escape: somewhat larger but very dark so hard to see anyone.

As for the women: I saw an awful lot of ordinary looking women and wasn't attracted to almost any. The one possible I saw (in New Makati) had a nice body and soso face and danced well. However, she was dancing when I came in and never stopped the whole time I was there, probably 45 minutes. I gave her a look and nod and she looked back. After awhile I went up to her and told her I would like to buy her a drink when she wanted a break. At one point another guy went up to her and started dancing next to her (his front to her back). She didn't give him any positive or negative feedback and just kept dancing. He left after a few minutes. When I left I waved to her and she waved back and that was that.

Women (who I wasn't interested in) came up to me or put their hand on my arm as I walked by in Bar 109 and Players but everywhere else no one gave me a look and all seemed only interested in dancing and hanging out with their friends.

Tiger 888
01-15-13, 07:34
Wondering what you expected to find, exactly. I imagine you WERE disappointed if you were hoping for a room full of models and / or cute college age girls. There are some real gems to be found at all the clubs you mentioned, trust me on that.

Just for some added information, some of the girls in Bar 109, Players and to a lesser extent, Neptune 3 and J Forest are there ONLY to get guys to buy them a drink for which they get a commission. They will never hook up with you or anybody else or do anything beyond grope you at the bar for drinks. As you noticed, there are also those who are there simply to dance and have a good time without any plans for a shag. Lots of those, actually. Then there are the part-time pros who'll go with any guy who'll slip HKD500 in their purse on their way out your door after the deed is done. And THEN there those who are just looking for a shag with no payment expected, those are the keepers and they're easily approachable. You'll also see girls who appear to be in shock at the whole scene and spend their day clinging to each other with nervous excitement / awe as they wander from club to club. Fun to flirt with those just to see the astonishment on their faces. :-DThat is exactly what the scene is like.

Gaijin Gigolo
01-15-13, 11:54
That is exactly what the scene is like.Finally, somebody agrees with me on this board. LOL! Cheers, mate

Chantik
01-15-13, 14:18
Good to see that the guys agree with my post from 10. 46pm yesterday.

And I have posted similar in the past, as have other posters.

Think guys need to be more realistic on a Sunday.

D / H's only get HK 3800 per month which is not enough to buy good quality cosmetics / clothes etc, unless they know a generous guy.

And if they get dressed up, they need to change clothes before returning to their employer.

Chantik
01-15-13, 17:43
Back to important matters.

Seems like a few more of the ladies are choosing to go to Amazonia, instead of Escape.

This is mainly because Escape is still quiet after Christmas, and the rule that you can't go back the same night, if you have left with a guy.

Some ladies from Amazonia will go to Escape just before 1am if they got lucky.

BoneyM69
01-15-13, 18:37
Try Hong kong tantric massage. PM me for the number. My wife and I had one of the girls over and wow! I still owe a report. LOL.Thank you for the tip re tantric massage which I have tried, but I am looking for new experiences.

BTW, as I am new to this site, please could you tell me how do I PM someone.

Thank you Very much.

Gaijin Gigolo
01-15-13, 19:15
Back to important matters.

Seems like a few more of the ladies are choosing to go to Amazonia, instead of Escape.

This is mainly because Escape is still quiet after Christmas, and the rule that you can't go back the same night, if you have left with a guy.

Some ladies from Amazonia will go to Escape just before 1am if they got lucky.That's incorrect. There simply is not enough room in Amazonia for more women to be going there instead of Escape, which is roughly 6-7 times the size of the former. People go to Amazonia primarily to see the two incredibly talented live bands that rotate sessions there every night. Yes, there are hookers there too, but Escape is an outright meat market. The two are apples and oranges. And Escape is just as busy as ever. Also, there's no such rule. Whoever heard of a bar whose sole existence is to provide a venue for picking up wh0res not letting the wh0res in.

Chantik
01-15-13, 19:23
It helps if you carefully read my post.

The ladies go where they can get business.

And I said some of the ladies that go to Escape are going to Amazonia and Joe Bananas.

And guys have recently posted that Wanchai has been quiet.

Escape has been very quiet since Mid December. Its starting to pick up slowly. Escape gets lots of business travellers. So in the period till mid / end January, ladies will go to other places.

Agree about the bands at Amazonia. I was rocking there on Saturday night. And it was full.

Agree that Escape is the most professional of all the bars.

Seeing that I have friends in the industry - Think I have some idea of what is happening in the bars.

And by the way - When was the last time you visited Escape and Amazonia ?

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01-16-13, 03:37
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Zuzon X
01-16-13, 04:22
Having RTFF I find various information about Villa Victoria (Hotel Victoria) in Lockhart Road, Wanchai but I was told that they are sort of chain and that there is also a Villa Victoria in Tin Hau or North Point.

Can anybody help on the address and what the current going rates are.

Many thanks

Zuzon X
01-16-13, 04:23
Greetings Everyone,

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise worthless posts by SE Asia Joe, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.

Members are encouraged to use the "Report Post" link to report EVERY instance of antagonistic behavior exhibited by SE Asia Joe.

This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

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Johnny Rocket
01-16-13, 04:55
Pita, I must agree with you. I have re-read Chantik's pragmatic remarks I simply do not see an "hard edge" to what she says (same for her many other posts).

Anyway, to all, be well and enjoy New Year.I have personally met Chantik and can verify her authenticity.

Johnny Rocket
01-16-13, 05:01
Having RTFF I find various information about Villa Victoria (Hotel Victoria) in Lockhart Road, Wanchai but I was told that they are sort of chain and that there is also a Villa Victoria in Tin Hau or North Point.

Can anybody help on the address and what the current going rates are.

Many thanksGoogle is your friend. Nobody here knows the street address without looking it up, we just know the cross streets or location relative to other landmarks.

There are two in Tin Hau, one across from Tin Hau MTR Station and the other on Electric Road just west of Victoria Park.

Unlike other hotels, the VV rates are not negotiable. Depends whether you want 2 or 3 hours and the time of day, it'll be between $280 and $380 if memory serves.

Johnny Rocket
01-16-13, 05:08
Ah, Gaijin Gigolo (sigh).

I would refer you, and any doubters, to the numerous posts from esteemed ISGers who know, up close and personal, that Chantik is very real.

I nearly met up with the lovely (judging from her website) lass myself, sadly missing out, before departing HK, but hold out hope for the future.

If Chantik is a ruse, it would be a rather elaborate one involving punters whose comments I enjoy reading, and prefer to believe in.Gaijin Gigolo is an idiot who projects confidence and arrogance to mask the fact that he is an insecure fool who contributes nothing at all to the board. He doesn't know how to handle a beautiful, classy, confident woman like Chantik so he goes on the attack as a defense mechanism. He has no actual basis for his claim regarding Chantik. Whereas I have met her in person as have others on the board.

Gaijin Gigolo
01-16-13, 06:01
No, what you said was: Seems like a few more of the ladies are choosing to go to Amazonia, instead of Escape.

Which is simply not true. And I never said that Escape is the 'most professional. ' You have a bad habit of reading more into what people are saying than they actually are, mate.

And I was at both places last night, as a matter of fact.


It helps if you carefully read my post.

The ladies go where they can get business.

And I said some of the ladies that go to Escape are going to Amazonia and Joe Bananas.

And guys have recently posted that Wanchai has been quiet.

Escape has been very quiet since Mid December. Its starting to pick up slowly. Escape gets lots of business travellers. So in the period till mid / end January, ladies will go to other places.

Agree about the bands at Amazonia. I was rocking there on Saturday night. And it was full.

Agree that Escape is the most professional of all the bars.

Seeing that I have friends in the industry. Think I have some idea of what is happening in the bars.

And by the way. When was the last time you visited Escape and Amazonia?

JPF
01-16-13, 06:14
Wondering what you expected to find, exactly. I imagine you WERE disappointed if you were hoping for a room full of models and / or cute college age girls. There are some real gems to be found at all the clubs you mentioned, trust me on that.I had no specific expectations only a desire to find someone that I found attractive. To a different point: I do not care how they are dressed and prefer if they do not have a lot of makeup. I am not attracted only to models and they do not have to be particularly young (I did not see anyone who was too old for me). But, yes, I was looking for a "gem" (in my very personal opinion) not a plain stone to use your metaphor.

Zuzon X
01-16-13, 06:29
Google is your friend. Nobody here knows the street address without looking it up, we just know the cross streets or location relative to other landmarks.

There are two in Tin Hau, one across from Tin Hau MTR Station and the other on Electric Road just west of Victoria Park.

Unlike other hotels, the VV rates are not negotiable. Depends whether you want 2 or 3 hours and the time of day, it'll be between $280 and $380 if memory serves.Many thanks JR. I appreciate what you are saying but couldn't find anything in Goggle, that's why I asked the expert forum.

Let me give the address for the Victoria Hotel in Wanchai: 215 Lockhart Road in the Lap Tak Bldg, corner Flemming Road.

As to Electric Road, could you please advise more landmarks closer to the hotel because Electric Road is a few kilometers long and starts actually at Tin Hau MTR station exit A2 and ends in North Point.

Zuzon X
01-16-13, 06:33
I had no specific expectations only a desire to find someone that I found attractive. To a different point: I do not care how they are dressed and prefer if they do not have a lot of makeup. I am not attracted only to models and they do not have to be particularly young (I did not see anyone who was too old for me). But, yes, I was looking for a "gem" (in my very personal opinion) not a plain stone to use your metaphor.JPF, I guess the Wanchai scene of DH on Sundays is just not your cup of tea and that's perfectly fine

Tiger 888
01-16-13, 07:48
I was factoring in a 30 percent discount for a hotel stay of a month or more, which I get in BKK. So a 100 USD HKG hotel would be 2100 a month, a bit over 2K.

BTW in BKK my laundry & dry cleaning bill is about $3 a day or under 100 a month. The hotel does it for me. I don't know what it would cost in HKG, but in Canada that would run me closer to $1000.
Laundry shops in HK charge around 30 HK$ for 7 pounds.

You could probably find a 15 sqm serviced apartment for 2000 US$, but nothing of the size you require. Apartments in Wanchai sell at 12000 HK$ per sqft, one only gets about 70% of the area you buy, the rest is public area counted into your space.
Now do the maths: 15 sqm net is 160 sqft., which would result in a sold size of 230 sqft. costing about 2.75 mio HK$. A 3% return on that would be 7000 HK$ per month. They need to furnish it and don't get 100% occupancy. Then there is administration overhead, management fees and a profit and taxes. So it could end up at 15000 HK$ rent, bills extra. If you add 1000 US$ per month and you have plenty of choices.
If you were to live somewhere in the boonies (a 150-200 HK$ taxi ride to Wanchai if you need to go by taxi), prices could be half.

Medical is extremely cheap for residents, but extremely expensive for non residents. You would have to get a travel insurance at least. (Hospitalization for residents 100 HK$ per night, about 3700 HK$ for non residents).

I like Hong Kong any given day over Thailand (You can buy beer every day any time, some bars are open 24/7 and there is way less cheating going on), because everything besides accommodation is affordable here. I own the place I live in and bought it at times when it was affordable. Next to free medical here and if I need nursing some day, I can employ a helper for about 500 US$ a month. Not to speak about the almost non existing taxes.

In the Philippines you may end up one day with a bullet in your head. No thanks.

Teltel
01-16-13, 10:03
Many thanks JR. I appreciate what you are saying but couldn't find anything in Goggle, that's why I asked the expert forum.

Let me give the address for the Victoria Hotel in Wanchai: 215 Lockhart Road in the Lap Tak Bldg, corner Flemming Road.

As to Electric Road, could you please advise more landmarks closer to the hotel because Electric Road is a few kilometers long and starts actually at Tin Hau MTR station exit A2 and ends in North Point.You can use google earth for checking locations. Just input your address to see where you are then the address you want to go to e. G. Electric road. I find the tram the best way to travel on HK island, goes almost the length of the island and anywhere you want to go is not to much of a walk from the tram line.

Of course there will always be that odd place you want to get to that may be off the beaten track.

MTR is also a good way to get around and the girls advertisements often note the train station and exit nearest their place of business.

Teltel

Chantik
01-16-13, 12:43
Many thanks JR. I appreciate what you are saying but couldn't find anything in Goggle, that's why I asked the expert forum.

Let me give the address for the Victoria Hotel in Wanchai: 215 Lockhart Road in the Lap Tak Bldg, corner Flemming Road.

As to Electric Road, could you please advise more landmarks closer to the hotel because Electric Road is a few kilometers long and starts actually at Tin Hau MTR station exit A2 and ends in North Point.To give you more info. It's on the same side of the road as Escape and Bar 109. From the MTR its about 100 metres. You cross one set of lights (Fleming road ).

If you are taking a girl from Wanchai she will know where to go.

Chantik
01-16-13, 12:44
Gajin.

Can you give the guys a quick report on the crowd / vibe at Escape / Amazonia last night.

One or two sentences will be enough.

Chantik
01-16-13, 12:50
Gajin.

You don't seem to understand there is a crack-down on ladies in Wanchai.

Why do you think Nep 2 closed down?

Why were guys posting that when they were leaving Nep 2. Security stopped them and asked to see their hotel keys.

Bars are being very cautious. That's a fact.

And Escape used to be Fenwicks (which was closed). So they 100% will be cautious.

And the rules Escape are applying for ladies is correct. That's one of the reasons some will visit Amazonia / Joe Bananas first hoping to get a short time and then visit Escape.

I don't post this kind of information without double checking my sources.

Chantik
01-16-13, 12:53
Flew in late on Sunday night and had a few hours in wan chai.

Amazonia and escape appeared to be the main traffic.

Escape had the better looking girls IMHO.

Neptune was dead and the street traffic was the standard wan chai wrestling match.

Fell into one mama bar that was dead and the mama threw four girls at me and they all wanted a lady drink. All Thai girls ranging from 4-6. With bad lighting. As they were not that expensive I said sure and ended up with four very brief BBBJ's to say thanks for the drinks. A little fun for less than the cost of a lap dance back home.

Then the hard sell from the mama which I really hate so ended up leaving there and heading back to my hotel.

Ended up calling a 141 outcall massage who was great value and gave a good professional massage followed by an expert BBBJ with CIM.

Wan chai is really so easy to monger any way you like it.Good to see your night ended up well!

The two worst nights to go to Wanchai are Sunday and Monday.

Pita123
01-16-13, 13:27
Why were guys posting that when they were leaving Nep 2. Security stopped them and asked to see their hotel keys.What was the point of asking to see hotel keys? And when you say security, are you talking about the police or the bar's security folks?

Johnny Rocket
01-16-13, 14:01
Many thanks JR. I appreciate what you are saying but couldn't find anything in Goggle, that's why I asked the expert forum.

Let me give the address for the Victoria Hotel in Wanchai: 215 Lockhart Road in the Lap Tak Bldg, corner Flemming Road.

As to Electric Road, could you please advise more landmarks closer to the hotel because Electric Road is a few kilometers long and starts actually at Tin Hau MTR station exit A2 and ends in North Point.Electric Road location is very near to the western end of that road near Victoria Park.

It is actually called the Villa Victoria.

Chantik
01-16-13, 15:38
What was the point of asking to see hotel keys? And when you say security, are you talking about the police or the bar's security folks?Security staff at Nep 2. Basically they checked if it was a new lady and new guy. This didn't apply to regular guys / girls. This was to make sure it wasn't LE. At the time Nep 2 was existing on monthly renewals of their licence.

And there has been at least 2 or 3 posts from punters detailing these events. Oversease guys asking why this happened?

Chantik
01-16-13, 15:45
There are actually 2 Villa Victoria's in Tin Hau.

9-11 Gorden Road (this is at the end of Victoria Park.)

14 Kings Road (which is next to the L Hotel ).

Apologise for the spelling - But this is directly off a business card. And sometimes HK spelling is funny.

Lots of options for short time hotels in HK.

Gaijin Gigolo
01-17-13, 06:32
Neptune 2 closed down because their operating license wasn't renewed. It's happened before due to some legalities a couple of times and they'll re-open in March after they renovate. Has nothing to do with any mythical 'crackdown' here which hasn't happened. Why would one place get closed down and all the others be allowed to operate as normal? I was out all over the neighborhood again last night and it's obvious that there has been absolutely no change at all in the way the bars are doing business. None of them are any more 'cautious' than usual. You need to stop putting out false information on this board, dude. I really don't get what you hope to achieve by putting out all this disinformation.


Gajin.

You don't seem to understand there is a crack-down on ladies in Wanchai.

Why do you think Nep 2 closed down?

Why were guys posting that when they were leaving Nep 2. Security stopped them and asked to see their hotel keys.

Bars are being very cautious. That's a fact.

And Escape used to be Fenwicks (which was closed). So they 100% will be cautious.

And the rules Escape are applying for ladies is correct. That's one of the reasons some will visit Amazonia / Joe Bananas first hoping to get a short time and then visit Escape.

I don't post this kind of information without double checking my sources.

Gaijin Gigolo
01-17-13, 06:37
I had no specific expectations only a desire to find someone that I found attractive. To a different point: I do not care how they are dressed and prefer if they do not have a lot of makeup. I am not attracted only to models and they do not have to be particularly young (I did not see anyone who was too old for me). But, yes, I was looking for a "gem" (in my very personal opinion) not a plain stone to use your metaphor.The gems are there, some absolute honeys, in fact. Perhaps your definition is unrealistic. Sounds like you need to resume your search in Soho for the wannabe model crowd instead.

SE Asia Joe
01-17-13, 09:40
You idiot, Neptune 2 closed down because their operating license wasn't renewed. It's happened before due to some legalities a couple of times and they'll re-open in March after they renovate. Has nothing to do with any mythical 'crackdown' here which hasn't happened. Why would one place get closed down and all the others be allowed to operate as normal? I was out all over the neighborhood again last night and it's obvious that there has been absolutely no change at all in the way the bars are doing business. None of them are any more 'cautious' than usual. You need to stop putting out false information on this board, dude. I really don't get what you hope to achieve by putting out all this disinformation.YUP!

Sunday Morning Post 16 December 2012.


Famous Wan Chai bar Neptune II closes as licence refused

Sunday. 16 December. 2012, 12:00am.

John Carney john.carney@scmp.com

Neptune II was one of the most popular dance clubs in Hong Kong. Photo: Nora Tam.

Legendary Wan Chai haunt Neptune II has been shut down, with the Liquor Licensing Board refusing to issue it a new licence.

The basement club in Jaffe Road, established in 1993, was one of the most popular dance clubs in the city. However, for the past two weeks its shutters have been pulled down and its doors closed.

Staff at its sister bar. Neptune III in Lockhart Road. Said Neptune II was closed for renovation, but considering that it is the busiest time of the year for the city's nightspots, this seemed unlikely.

The Food and Environmental Hygiene Department later confirmed that Neptune II's bar licence had not been renewed, but did not give a reason.

The bar was a notorious haunt of prostitutes, but police said no arrests had been made there in recent months.

The real reason for its closure is understood to be much less controversial, with an industry source revealing that its liquor licence was turned down because of overcrowding.

"The Buildings Department and Fire Services Department would have put a capacity limit on it for its bar licence, as it is in the basement and not on a ground floor. Anything that is upstairs or in a basement has a capacity limit put on it, for safety reasons, and this is what happened here," the source revealed."They consistently flouted this capacity limit over the years, and the Liquor Licensing Board was left with no other option but to close it."

On its website, the bar is called "the landmark of Wan Chai" and many Wan Chai regulars would agree. Open until 9am all week, it rarely failed to attract a crowd.

The Lonely Planet Guide to Hong Kong noted that it was a favourite hangout for domestic helpers on their day off.

Chantik
01-17-13, 14:30
Gajin.

Strange that all of a sudden you are visiting bars. But no information is given to members. And I imagine you couldn't get into Escape because it was full!

And the guys posting that Nep 2 security staff asked to see there hotel keys are false. And one or two guys were asked by ladies if they were LE. Made up the stories.

And one of the posters recently printed an article from the South China Morning Post about the closure of Nep 2. Go back and read it. Some of it seemed real and some appeared to be fantasy.

And why have other bars been closed in the last two or three years - Namely The Bridge/Escape/Galaxy. All had their licence renewals rejected. I am certain there are reasons.

Your posts will gain more relevance if you actually (from time to time) provide a brief report of your visits to wanchai bars, however infrequent they may be.

For example. Visited Escape. Place was reasonably busy. More ladies than men. A couple of cuties. Etc, etc, etc.

And there is no point abusing the poster. This is a sign of a poor debater.

Tiger 888
01-17-13, 14:34
Gajin.

Strange that all of a sudden you are visiting bars. But no information is given to members. And I imagine you couldn't get into Escape because it was full!

And the guys posting that Nep 2 security staff asked to see there hotel keys are false. And one or two guys were asked by ladies if they were LE. Made up the stories.

And one of the posters recently printed an article from the South China Morning Post about the closure of Nep 2. Go back and read it. Some of it seemed real and some appeared to be fantasy.

Your posts will gain more relevance if you actually (from time to time) provide a brief report of your visits to wanchai bars, however infrequent they may be.

For example. Visited Escape. Place was reasonably busy. More ladies than men. A couple of cuties. Etc, etc, etc.

And there is no point abusing the poster. This is a sign of a poor debater.Why do you answer an idiot calling others idiots?

Chantik
01-17-13, 19:23
Pink Pearl.

Tiger has written a very accurate post.

You may be able to get a small room in Mirador / Chungking Mansions or similar for US $1000.

You said that you were interested in some punting. Some ladies paid / unpaid will not visit these places.

Uncle Goober2
01-18-13, 01:23
Why do you answer an idiot calling others idiots?Tiger. Spot on. Two most recent posts from GG. Angry pointless posts.

Nep2 will re-open, but probably backed by different investors. And certainly with a new nominee on the licence.

Less girls around at moment (possibly partly still getting back on track after Christmas / NY, and partly LE crack down. The girls ARE talking about the numerous recent arrests).

Cheers

Chantik
01-18-13, 15:22
Business at Escape has picked up in the last few days. It was busy on Wednesday. Think most people are back from Christmas holidays and business travellers are hitting HK again.

Zuzon X
01-18-13, 21:35
Most of us are here in the forum to exchange information and for that we shall respect each other. The forum shall be for our all benefit, whatever that benefit might be. However, many comments are from the individual's experience and perspective und thus not everybody will agree with the other's opinions or may have had different experience than other posters here. If you don't agree, simply say so in a polite way. It's a simply a matter of respecting each other.

And if you don't like any of the fellow posters for what ever reasons, keep it for yourself because the rest of the posters and readers are not interested in your personal feuds.

As to Chantik I must say that I don't know the person but I am impressed by her attitude and politeness. Whether she is real and what her ultimate agenda is, I simply don't know because we are here in a virtual world in which any of us could be a 90 or 15 year old sitting at the other end of the world having never been to HK. But judging from all of her many posts and references given by other posters, I believe that the likeliness is rather high that she is real and that her comments are to be taken serious.

Chantik is one of the most frequent poster in the HK forum and since her appearance the forum has gained greatly for which we should be grateful. Although her information may not always be 100% accurate or correct but hey, who is perfect? From my very own experience she has provided me with the exact information I was looking for (see her post about Villa Victoria 2 days ago) and which was very helpful to me. Thank you.

Gajin. The SCMP article you are referring to was posted by me on 16. 12. 12. But please, don't take anything written and said in the media as granted being 100% correct, true and complete. My personal experience with SCMP since the eighties is that they are not always accurate when "reporting" as I experienced when they reported about matters I was personally involved in. As to Chantik's information about the reasons behind the closure of establishments in Wanchai I have similar information coming from rather high ranks in the civil service who are very familiar with the Wanchai scene.

Let's treat each other with respect and always give the benefit of a doubt. Using foul language against other posters doen't earn you any credibility and your post will be quickly disregarded by the readers. Let us all keep the forum to be fun and truly informative to read.

Porsche25
01-19-13, 04:09
Thanks to some helpful information from this forum I visited K-Pressure when I was in Hong Kong before Christmas.

The experience is exactly as is described here, head up the stairs and the mamasan will usher you into a private room. They ask you if it's the first time, ask you where you heard about the place (your friend come here? You see internet?) , and then explain the situation.

First girl that came in was reasonably attractive but by no means a stunner. No English, but pretty friendly in the intro. After meeting her, the Mamasan came back and said "you take her okay?". The advice I had was to always see more than one girl but I feel I wasn't offered a choice here. I imagine I could have pushed the issue and seen another but I guess that's a lesson to learn!

Price was 390 (don't expect change) to the mamasan and 120 to the lady at the hotel.

The way the session unfolds is exactly as described here. Undress, shower together, BBBJ, then onto the bed where full service is on offer but I was happy to finish with BBBJ and CIM. Basically a fun way to spend 45 mins and relatively inexpensive. I felt it is worth a return visit. Getting the info here certainly made it easy to find and know what to expect first time round.

I will be going back in May, this time staying on HK Island so hoping to check out some places in Wan Chai this time.

Lewis And Clark
01-19-13, 14:42
Most of us are here in the forum to exchange information and for that we shall respect each other. The forum shall be for our all benefit, whatever that benefit might be. However, many comments are from the individual's experience and perspective und thus not everybody will agree with the other's opinions or may have had different experience than other posters here. If you don't agree, simply say so in a polite way. It's a simply a matter of respecting each other.

And if you don't like any of the fellow posters for what ever reasons, keep it for yourself because the rest of the posters and readers are not interested in your personal feuds.

As to Chantik I must say that I don't know the person but I am impressed by her attitude and politeness. Whether she is real and what her ultimate agenda is, I simply don't know because we are here in a virtual world in which any of us could be a 90 or 15 year old sitting at the other end of the world having never been to HK. But judging from all of her many posts and references given by other posters, I believe that the likeliness is rather high that she is real and that her comments are to be taken serious.

Chantik is one of the most frequent poster in the HK forum and since her appearance the forum has gained greatly for which we should be grateful. Although her information may not always be 100% accurate or correct but hey, who is perfect? From my very own experience she has provided me with the exact information I was looking for (see her post about Villa Victoria 2 days ago) and which was very helpful to me. Thank you.

Gajin. The SCMP article you are referring to was posted by me on 16. 12. 12. But please, don't take anything written and said in the media as granted being 100% correct, true and complete. My personal experience with SCMP since the eighties is that they are not always accurate when "reporting" as I experienced when they reported about matters I was personally involved in. As to Chantik's information about the reasons behind the closure of establishments in Wanchai I have similar information coming from rather high ranks in the civil service who are very familiar with the Wanchai scene.

Let's treat each other with respect and always give the benefit of a doubt. Using foul language against other posters doen't earn you any credibility and your post will be quickly disregarded by the readers. Let us all keep the forum to be fun and truly informative to read.Nicely put Zuzon and for the most part entirely correct. However, one might question whether frequent, simplistic and not entirely accurate postings from a provider might not be completely altruistic, especially when the forum is a potentially a great source of free marketing for a canny Sex Industry Worker looking to raise their profile above the 'hoi polloi' of Wanchai. The classified section of the forum provides a place for postings from such providers and those who are of the opinion that they are worth reading could check there regularly and allow the general forum to get back to its intended purpose.

SE Asia Joe
01-19-13, 15:15
Nicely put Zuzon and for the most part entirely correct. However, one might question whether frequent, simplistic and not entirely accurate postings from a provider might not be completely altruistic, especially when the forum is a potentially a great source of free marketing for a canny Sex Industry Worker looking to raise their profile above the 'hoi polloi' of Wanchai. The classified section of the forum provides a place for postings from such providers and those who are of the opinion that they are worth reading could check there regularly and leave allow the general forum to get back to its intended purpose.Hear, hear!

Also very nicely put.

Kudos!

SEAJ

Yhddude13
01-20-13, 22:46
Gajin.

Strange that all of a sudden you are visiting bars. But no information is given to members. And I imagine you couldn't get into Escape because it was full!

And the guys posting that Nep 2 security staff asked to see there hotel keys are false. And one or two guys were asked by ladies if they were LE. Made up the stories.

And one of the posters recently printed an article from the South China Morning Post about the closure of Nep 2. Go back and read it. Some of it seemed real and some appeared to be fantasy.

And why have other bars been closed in the last two or three years. Namely The Bridge / Escape / Galaxy. All had their licence renewals rejected. I am certain there are reasons.

Your posts will gain more relevance if you actually (from time to time) provide a brief report of your visits to wanchai bars, however infrequent they may be.

For example. Visited Escape. Place was reasonably busy. More ladies than men. A couple of cuties. Etc, etc, etc.

And there is no point abusing the poster. This is a sign of a poor debater.That would be me. I was having a real hard time as security and waitresses would tell ladies I would talk to that I was CID. I would talk and them they would whisper in their ear and they would walk away. Later in the evening, some ladies would be more desperate and would risk and then ask me. I would always ask if there are many American cops. But some would be scared and others wouldn't. But it was a challenge. A few times I asked a lady I had been with before to be my reference. And a couple times, I had to repeat, because others were scared. When the ladies agreed to go with me, if they walked out with me security in the front tried to stop them. Others told me to meet them in 7-11. I never went home with just my right hand, but I didn't always get who I wanted either. I thought they were paranoid and crazy. There are no American cops. But, I have been told I look German. So, maybe that's it.

Tiger 888
01-21-13, 00:41
I try to make a useful post # 1500:
The new signboard at former Neptune 2 is up. It reads Hong Kong Cafe, pub disco

Chantik
01-21-13, 05:52
I try to make a useful post # 1500:

The new signboard at former Neptune 2 is up. It reads Hong Kong Cafe, pub discoI am curious. Is that the also the name of the New Cafe O. Which is next to the old Nep 2.

Chantik
01-21-13, 15:38
I am curious. Is that the also the name of the New Cafe O. Which is next to the old Nep 2.Correction.

The new Cafe O (restaurant) is called Flame.

I walked in thinking it was a jewellery store.

Anyway the food is OK.

Kbkbal
01-22-13, 06:06
Two visits to HK in late 2012. Pickings not as rich as on previous occasions, but some fun was had in any event!

- Three visits to K Pressure. First time was a repeat / reunion with See-Kwan (spelling probably all wrong) , which was as awesome as ever. She's lost some weight and was even randier than I remembered her but really needs to put the old trimming scissors to use down south as it was far more foresty down there than I can recall. Second visit was with a firecracker of a new girl, whose name I can't remember. One of the best I've ever encountered at KP. Third time was with another new girl (again can't remember the name) who was slim and cute and pretty inexperienced, which only made it more fun as it felt like banging the girl next door instead of a seasoned professional.

- CL Pinoy domestic helper looking for extra cash who had posted on the "Casual Encounters" section. Turned out to be quite pretty in a homely way, very pleasant personality, not pushy at all, enjoyed a laugh and responded very appreciatively to being treated decently (which had apparently not been her experience thus far). Very much an amateur, but obliging and accommodating and a good time was had by all

Chantik
01-22-13, 18:06
Dropped in NM late evening.

Very quiet. No more than 30-35 people.

Did a notice a number of Filipina's.

Maybe more are returning to HK.

BionicMan
01-23-13, 00:34
The classified section of the forum provides a place for postings from such providers and those who are of the opinion that they are worth reading could check there regularly and allow the general forum to get back to its intended purpose.I have never read a chantik comment in here to promote her goods or her services. But rather I read useful information, facts and inside information (if that you rate "promoting", we have two different standards, then). So her posts are more than legitimate to stay here and not in the classified section, IMHO

Tony Toro
01-23-13, 04:45
Last December I found Mongolian girls at Escape. Not a typical thing but a real treat for Wan Chai because they are more likely to stick to Hari's Bar.

Having visited Wan Chai in both November & December and spent quite some time in the bars, I would say they were a little flat compared to previous visits (of which there have been 100s). Having said that Escape was still excellent, JB's was solid but too many civvies, Amazonia great if you're into Fils, Boracay dead, J-Forrest quite and a concern about the age of some of the girls there made me decide to leave.

Over all, Wan Chai is still a fun place to punt. Prices have edged up but that's the way it goes I guess. January is usually quiet but April is always HUGE because of the big trade shows so don't despair! Hopefully N2 will be back up and running business as usual in time for the April rush! Certainly we shed a tear when we saw the big silver door closed...

FreebieFan
01-23-13, 06:15
Did a notice a number of Filipina's.

Maybe more are returning to HK.Or being allowed out of the country by the bloodhounds at Manila Immigration. Given the number of girls that have been "offloaded / denied boarding / or interrogated past departure time " we can only hope more of the islands finer ladies are flying now.

Immigration officer." where are you going maam"

Girl " to HK as it says on my ticket sir".

Immigration officer." I think you are being trafficked, go away, you can't get on the flight"

Girl " I have ticket, place to stay and money"

Immigration officer " I don't care. I am not letting you leave the country, even though you have a valid passport, return ticket and appropriate funds.".

Sadly this has been a daily scene on all flights from Manila to HK, Manila to Singapore, Manila to KL, Manila to BKK all though 2011 and 2012.

Lewis And Clark
01-23-13, 13:10
I have never read a chantik comment in here to promote her goods or her services. But rather I read useful information, facts and inside information (if that you rate "promoting", we have two different standards, then). So her posts are more than legitimate to stay here and not in the classified section, IMHOYou miss the point entirely.

There was no mention in my post of any provider's name, nor the assertion that the actual posts contain promotion.

Rather, I raised a legitimate question as to the reason behind short, frequent, simplistic and not entirely accurate postings seen on the forum recently; high in volume, but rather lacking in actual and detailed experiences that our members undergo, which are the raison the'être for this forum.

Tiger 888
01-23-13, 15:16
You miss the point entirely.

There was no mention in my post of any provider's name, nor the assertion that the actual posts contain promotion.

Rather, I raised a legitimate question as to the reason behind short, frequent, simplistic and not entirely accurate postings seen on the forum recently; high in volume, but rather lacking in actual and detailed experiences that our members undergo, which are the raison the'être for this forum.Sorry to say, but I consider that rubbish. Bionicman got the point right in my opinion. Anyway, a decision where posts belong is solely up to Jackson. As long as he doesn't intervene. there is nothing wrong here.

Chantik
01-23-13, 17:19
Queen Victoria celebrated its 2nd Birthday party on Wednesday Night.

Free drinks / food b/ w 7pm and 9pm.

Hosts were very generous with the alcohol.

A very large crowd flowing outside into Lockhart Road.

A couple of Guys dressed in Kilts playing Bagpipes.

A good night was had.

Think NM would have been happy.

PeterTaylor
01-23-13, 18:38
Landed on 18th and stayed at Cosmopolitan. Went to Wanchai at about 9. 00.

New Makati. Much quieter than last April, but some talent. Met a girl over from Phil over for 2 weeks. Name of Shine. Late 20s, reasonable looks, but wanted 2, 500 HK$ for LT.

Moved on to Escape. Some good dancing but again not many there. Met a late 30s / early 40s Phil who took me to Neptune 2. She told me that girls were charging at least $3k, but, as she liked me, she would come for $2k. I am afraid that I laughed. Some good talent there. One Indonesian. Very beautiful, early 20s, asked $3. 5k, but she had reduced this to $2. 5k by the time I left 30 minutes later. Suspect that it would have come down even more later on.

Amazonia proved the best. Lots of talent and some good flirting. Generally, $2k to $2. 5k seemed the going rate for the better girls, although this did reduce as hours moved on.

Somehow ended up in 1 of the Wanchai sex bars. Very friendly Thai girl and I ended up behind the greenery, getting each other off with some manual & oral stimulation. For $1300 we had a drink and I shot all over her pussy & stomach. I went home very satisfied and slept the sleep of the just or at least that of the jet lagged.

PeterTaylor
01-23-13, 18:51
I recently joined DIA and made dates with 3 girls for the Saturday. All 3 were Filipinas and ranged in claimed age from 26 to 36.

The first was a mother of 2 who I took for a drink. Unfortunately, after 1 glass, she was drunk. I had to feed her and send her home.

The second was a lovely girl who I took for drink & meal. We had a great time, even though I did not get to 2nd base. My wandering hands were rebuffed with just the right amount of quickened breathing & regret. It was great to again feel the hardening of a nipple through a brassiere as my hands attempted caresses.

The 3rd girl had lectured me about not expecting sex and explained that she had to be home by 10. 00 pm. However, within an hour, she was in my bed and stayed over after arranging for a co-worker to cover Sunday morning. She clearly loved sex and really enjoyed the breakfast in the Cosmopolitan, which is more than I did as she was rather wearing. I have had plenty of texts from her since and may live to wish that I had gone out and paid for it.

JackTheLad2
01-23-13, 19:28
[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1377252]Landed on 18th and stayed at Cosmopolitan. Went to Wanchai at about 9. 00.

New Makati. Much quieter than last April, but some talent. Met a girl over from Phil over for 2 weeks. Name of Shine. Late 20s, reasonable looks, but wanted 2, 500 HK$ for LT. She told me that girls were charging at least $3k, but, as she liked me, she would come for $2k. I am afraid that I laughed. One Indonesian. Very beautiful, early 20s, asked $3. 5k, but she had reduced this to $2. 5k by the time I left 30 minutes later.

Amazonia proved the best. Lots of talent and some good flirting. Generally, $2k to $2. 5k seemed the going rate for the better girls. QUOTE]

Looks as if I might have to double my budget based on these prices for my next visit in March! These are serious prices and double what I have paid in the past. DH's at $500 are normally readily available in NM. Are you going only for "A" listers? I'm glad you were able to laugh. I would have cried.

Like your choice of hotel. A bit out of the way but comfortable as I have stayed there several times

Chantik
01-23-13, 19:31
Peter.

Do you mean Nep3. Nep 2 closed in November.

Nothing like numerous texts to keep you interested.

Think the ladies must have known you weren't a local.

Many of the ladies prefer short time, so may quote higher prices, and then hope you bargain them down to a short time price that suits them

That's very expensive.

Chantik
01-23-13, 19:33
Jack.

Think you know your way around Wanchai to get a good price.

Then again maybe some ladies have been reading ISG. And seeing that prices have increased.

Happy punting.

BionicMan
01-23-13, 22:26
You miss the point entirely.There has been a long (boring?) discussions about Chantik and she being a provider, you come up with your statements and one does not have to believe you refer to her as a provider not posting in the classifieds? Who else do we have to think about?

It is up to you to rate the inforamtion provided here as usueful or not. But certainly Chantik gives a lot of insides. She will not describe how someone is "inside", but I can care the less on wetness rate, on gyno pictures showing 20sqcm of the pussy area, and so on.

Boarer
01-24-13, 03:24
ended up behind the greeneryBe careful not to get caught and end up on the front page of a local paper! This place can be very unforgiving in that respect.


The 3rd girl had lectured me about not expecting sex and explained that she had to be home by 10. 00 pm. However, within an hour, she was in my bed and stayed over after arranging for a co-worker to cover Sunday morning. She clearly loved sex and really enjoyed the breakfast in the Cosmopolitan, which is more than I did as she was rather wearing. I have had plenty of texts from her since and may live to wish that I had gone out and paid for it.FWIW, many of the girls are lonely and searching and are easy targets. However, I would respect a curfew if they are really domestic helpers. Curfews are strictly enforced and going AWOL are grounds for dismissal, regardless of whether her shift is covered or not or if she even has a day off the next day. The consequences are rather onerous and you will be receiving weeping calls as well as texts! Think Cinderella and get them in a taxi and home by the last stroke of midnight. She can come out and play again the next morning.

My latest project is a really cute local gal with a french boyfriend. Luckily he is away for a while so I am working on getting her to third base as she is already coming out to play.

Lewis And Clark
01-24-13, 12:09
Sorry to say, but I consider that rubbish. Bionicman got the point right in my opinion. Anyway, a decision where posts belong is solely up to Jackson. As long as he doesn't intervene. there is nothing wrong here.Happy to agree to disagree.

All opinions on this board are valid.

In the mean time, there have been some great reports from the guys on the board lately, keep them up.

Wine Guy 247
01-25-13, 22:18
[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1377252]Landed on 18th and stayed at Cosmopolitan. Went to Wanchai at about 9. 00.

New Makati. Much quieter than last April, but some talent. Met a girl over from Phil over for 2 weeks. Name of Shine. Late 20s, reasonable looks, but wanted 2, 500 HK$ for LT. She told me that girls were charging at least $3k, but, as she liked me, she would come for $2k. I am afraid that I laughed. One Indonesian. Very beautiful, early 20s, asked $3. 5k, but she had reduced this to $2. 5k by the time I left 30 minutes later.

Amazonia proved the best. Lots of talent and some good flirting. Generally, $2k to $2. 5k seemed the going rate for the better girls. QUOTE]

Looks as if I might have to double my budget based on these prices for my next visit in March! These are serious prices and double what I have paid in the past. DH's at $500 are normally readily available in NM. Are you going only for "A" listers? I'm glad you were able to laugh. I would have cried.

Like your choice of hotel. A bit out of the way but comfortable as I have stayed there several timesDon't worry Jack, the vast majority of D / H still go for 500.

WG

JackTheLad2
01-25-13, 23:04
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1377266]Don't worry Jack, the vast majority of D / H still go for 500.

WGThanks for your concern and comments but I'm not worried. However, my bank manager is. LOL

Chantik
01-27-13, 10:15
I believe that the US Navy may be in Hk in the first week of February. Will try to get it confirmed.

Good to see that Amazonia is doing well. It was originally called The Venue and was an upmarket Bar which never did good business. My understanding is that an Aussie guy based in the Phillipines bought it for around HK 1m. A bargain. All he had to do was change the sign. It helps having good bands.

Boarer
01-27-13, 13:55
Good to see that Amazonia is doing well. It helps having good bands.And aggressively pushing drinks and lady drinks. The down side. Though the girls in their tiny skirts are not that friendly but nice enough to look at.

SonyDell
01-27-13, 15:36
Will be visiting HK the first time with mrs.

What is the best / quick and easy way to taste local candy?

Tailview
01-27-13, 15:59
Punters: I haven't been on here in quite some time and have hardly ever posted, but fire away.

NEW MAKATI.

A few days a month I have the pleasure of staying in Wan Chai. Generally I go to New Makati if I go anywhere. Maybe 9 or 10 months ago I met an Indo in there in the smoking corner, hit it off and took her home to the hotel. She swears she's a DH (probably true) and that she goes to bars for fun with friends and turns down lots of guys (maybe NOT true, but oh well). The sex was only ok (loose pussy) , but her enthusiasm for ANYTHING / EVERYTHING was amazing. If I wanted it we did it. $$ for Long Time overnight = $1000HK. So for a while I never gave her a heads up if I was in town I'd just show up (never on a Sunday) and see if she was with other guys which she wasn't. Basically I wanted more of a GFE and not a straight up working-girl arrangement. However, I think always pay for play so you can pull the plug no strings / no drama. More recently like in November I got kind of tired of the same girl and moved on.

So I've found NM to be kind of hit or miss, but it helps to chat up girls, dance a little and meet a few / introduce yourself. I've had the best luck when I would meet a girl one night and then remember her name and say hi to her another night. That really seems to work. I've taken two DH'ers Filipinas home from NM that way (separate nights & not Sundays). One of them wanted $500HK and was a limp noodle, AND THEN started her period on the bed. Blah. She was so embarrassed and I was nice, but had to end that one early. The other one was litterally an animal in the sack! Wow! She didn't want any money, barely accepted taxi fare from me, rocked me all night, had a tight little everything and danced sexy / awesome before we left the bar. She is still my only freebie in HK and honestly the best lay I've had in HK. Too bad the next day she was going to Macau for a new job or I would still be breaking my own pay for play rule and chasing her.

Only once has it worked out for me to go to Wan Chai on a Sunday morning. I went to Bar 109. Mistakenly, I went at about 7:30am. I got a bad recommendation to go early. Pretty sure the place was full of partiers more likely to go home to go to bed after being up all night than "go to bed" with me. Anyway I did meet a few, took home a Filipina DH, did the deed, and gave her $500HK which she was not particularly happy about. Later in the day I went back to Lockhart Road and chatted up a chap who said he went at 11am and the place was then packed, girls all over the guys, and much more enthusiasm than I saw. And I don't mean enthusiasm about me. When I went in at 7:30am none of the girls were really enthusiastic or interested in any of the guys that came in. MY GUESS: later in the morning the place gets refreshed with more of the "typical" Sunday DH's that this forum is full of stories about. If I get another Sunday off in Wan Chai again I will definitely go later and see how that works out.

In New Makati I generally look for girls that look like they are having fun rather than the super made-up hooker look. Only once have I screwed that up and bought a drink for a hooker. Reasonable conversation (over the thunderous music) , but then she wanted like $2500HK for short-time. I got her down to $1500, but forget it. I let that one pass. When you can have all night for $500. $1000HK with a little extra effort, I'll skip the legit hooker (the DH's sort of pretend that they aren't prostituting themselves. It's more of a "donation" and I don't argue with the symantics. Whatever baby, just come to my room and rock my world.)

NEPTUNE III.

I've tried Neptune III since Neptune 2 has been closed, but N-III seems to be more difficult for me to meet girls. Very few are dancing or mingling in my 3 times there. YMMV.

141-TYPE PLACES.

You know what, often before heading out for the night to a bar my thought process is basically "I want a girl for all-night sex". I'm in my 30s so that is reasonably realistic. However, after the first pop often my attitude changes considerably. At the beginning of 2012 I spent a lot of time searching out 141 places. I might go back to that (Mong Kok, Northpoint, Fortress Hill, wherever). The girls aren't usually that attractive (5 to 7s) , but sometimes they give a good pre-sex massage and usually I've had OK sex (which is fine for $300-$500HK). And more importantly I feel great the rest of the day / evening and don't have to contemplate getting anyone out of my room like with DH's.

CHANTIK.

It cracks me up when I read on here some version of "Chantik is a man!" Really? Ok, hater. Try searching "independant escort Hong Kong Chantik" and she's in several links on the first search page. Contact her, message back and forth, meet up and have a great time. For a legit "provider" she is super accommodating. Look up those links and see what she's into! That's exactly what she's into. I haven't seen her since maybe March a year ago, but I'd be surprised if any of that has changed. I just stopped seeing her because I don't have that kind of coin$$ to throw around on sex. DH's fit my budget a bit better but are often more work. But, I wish I ever could justify spending enough $$ to have Chantik for all night.

Hong Kong is an excellent place to punt if you don't have to pay for your hotel.

Yhddude13
01-27-13, 16:01
And aggressively pushing drinks and lady drinks. The down side. Though the girls in their tiny skirts are not that friendly but nice enough to look at.Yeah, I have neve had much luck at Amazonia. The ladies always seemed to be more into flirting and getting drinks than going home with me.

Chantik
01-27-13, 19:34
And aggressively pushing drinks and lady drinks. The down side. Though the girls in their tiny skirts are not that friendly but nice enough to look at.Have no idea about the drinks, although lots of Filipinas and Thais go to this bar. Its interesting that the guy that bought the business has done very well.

And I think he has bars / hotels in Manila and Subic.

DenisRaz
01-27-13, 23:25
Being a European and working in HK quite often, I got acquainted with the Wanchai bars these past few years.

I spent some time in Amazonia mostly, simply because the Philipino bands playing in there were quite amazing; no one in this forum would object to that.

Concerning the girls, I was mostly approached at the bar by Philipinas trying to make some commissions at the bar. Most of them were doing official or unofficial part time jobs as DH or worse in the day time. They confessed to me that all of them were commissioned on their drinks and a couple of them told me how surprised they were to be refunded some bucks after having a few drinks with clients on their first time at the bar. The ones who did not know about it ended up learning fast. True or not true? These are only pillow confessions.

Of course these girls were all on short term Visa with at least one kid to feed back home. Some were even married. They were all in desperate need for money: money to pay for their visa, for their boarding, for their food, for Western Union to send home etc. Etc. The ones I ended up picking up for a nigt were not professionals. They were just nice girls trying to make a dime.

After a while in this horrible situation, one can understand they feel the need to be saved and seek protection. So, of course, they will try to quote you the highest they can, especially if you look European, westerner and horny. But who could blame them?

Beyond the financial aspect, I have had many and many freebies with girls who were just seeking protection and some quiet time with a nice person. It is amazing to see what a good drink and nice conversation can do as far as the financial aspect of the bargain is concerned. I even remember asking girls what they wanted in exchange for one night in my hotel room. The reply was more than often "It's up to you.". I even withdrew some cash for them just because I wanted to give them more than just taxi money and because some told me about their lives overnight. And I could not hear that without making a move.

These girls are fragile and at bay. They are human beings with feelings. Remember that during your Hong Kong nights mongering and the relationship will be financially and morally more profitable to you. IMHO of course.

Chantik
01-28-13, 15:21
Denis.

The ladies on short-term visa's (tourist visa's) are not helpers.

Yes there are some ladies who have domestic helper visa's, who often visit Wanchai bars during the night.

JackTheLad2
01-28-13, 16:43
Will be visiting HK the first time with mrs.

What is the best / quick and easy way to taste local candy?Your 2nd post. The 1st was exactly the same question for Beijing.

You really need to RTFF and all the information is there.

Punters here are only too willinging to help, but you have to give something back by way of reports etc.

However, to help you out, google "141 sex Hong Kong" and you will find the answer.

Tiger 888
01-29-13, 00:45
...However, to help you out, google "141 sex Hong Kong" and you will find the answer.In case he needs help for that, just click the link:

Search for me (http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=141+sex+Hong+Kong)

Boarer
01-29-13, 02:24
The ladies on short-term visa's (tourist visa's) are not helpers.

Yes there are some ladies who have domestic helper visa's, who often visit Wanchai bars during the night.
I spent some time in Amazonia mostly, simply because the Philipino bands playing in there were quite amazing; no one in this forum would object to that.

These girls are fragile and at bay. They are human beings with feelings. Remember that during your Hong Kong nights mongering and the relationship will be financially and morally more profitable to you. IMHO of course.
Have no idea about the drinks, although lots of Filipinas and Thais go to this bar. Its interesting that the guy that bought the business has done very well.

And I think he has bars / hotels in Manila and Subic.
Yeah, I have neve had much luck at Amazonia. The ladies always seemed to be more into flirting and getting drinks than going home with me.Find many of the girls just cruise by once the Amazonia shutters are closed. The bar is small so many of the girls just float through. The staff and girls really pump you for drinks so it is hard to just chill and enjoy the music. Better places in LKF but hard to bring a DH.

Rarer, but some DH, mostly Filipina, still live out so they troll the bars at night. Some just slip out of the house. Many are young girls and make bad choices. Like DenisRiaz pointed out, they, both the DH and visitor, make bad choices and get themselves into worse trouble. Many of the new players are shy and afraid to ask for money and hence offered none. It is a sad situation where many of the new arrivals have to sell their bodies to make ends meet. But I blame more their government and agencies who do the lion share of exploitation.

Most will not agree with me but I find the ladies at NM to be more mercenary. Maybe it is just the girls I know or attract. I had better luck with girls at other bars and venues.

Chantik
01-29-13, 05:26
Boarer.

I will add that if you visit bars at night as mostly discussed you expect them to be mercenary.

Guys have different needs. Some like to buy ladies many drinks and maybe go home with lady, other guys are determined to find a lady, and are happy to go through the bargaining / mercenary stage and do it quickly.

Are you sure that your wallet doesn't stick out of your pocket when in NM?

Boarer
01-29-13, 07:31
Are you sure that your wallet doesn't stick out of your pocket when in NM?Suspect my wallet is very handsum and draw more attention. (must be the left over dongs and rupiahs though I am also happy to see the girls) LOL Also why I get calls from gals saying a friend needs help because she got fired for staying out all night.


Being a European .The reply was more than often "It's up to you.".Just wanted to add that I know some DH who say that but are too naive to ask for cash or too afraid to scare a guy off. You know, bird in hand. Overheard many conversations and heard many stories of how local and South Asians guys pretty much bulk at any monetary assistance. Couple months back, a south asian guy was convicted of killing and dismembering a pregnant Indo DH gf. FWIW, I always give something, to ease my guilt and to help out the gal. Everyone needs money. There is one gwialo in N3 who gives his gals 200 taxi money; rather miserly IMHO.

JackTheLad2
01-29-13, 13:26
In case he needs help for that, just click the link:



Search for me (http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=141+sex+Hong+Kong)

Very good Tiger. I laughed out loud when I tried that myself.

PeterTaylor
01-29-13, 14:18
Guys,

The girls looking for $2 to $3k were not DH. They were 8/9s working girls over for a few days and trying to make hay. The DIA girls were DHs.

I talk money to pros, not to girls who are out for a good time or want to pretend that they are. I give them something in the morning as "taxi fare". Interestingly. 2 girls have gone ape over that, saying "that they are not that sort of girl". One of them was the best lay I ever had in HK. She became really upset and we had to go back to bed to show her that I was sorry. We spent 4 nights together. Totally breaking my rules. She was one of Chantik's "strays". In a dormitory that she hated and found my hotel room a much nicer place to be. There was a 30 year age gap, but she responded so well to interest & affection. We stayed in contact for months afterwards. Back in Phil with 2 babies and a useless man, I understand.

I found Amazonia to be good fun, lots of flirting & touching and only bought 3 LD in 2 evenings. One was for a waitress. An older Thai who had a "lean & hungry look", but I was not prepared to wait around until 5. 00 am to see if she was as good as she looked. The other 2 were for Annie, a Filipina lady in her latish 30s over for 10 days. We settled for $1000 LT. She was quite enthusiastic and delivered 3 times as promised. Not a bad body considering she had had 3 children. That was the Sunday evening.

Back again this weekend and hope not to spoil it for the rest of you by overpaying.

Peter

Chantik
01-29-13, 19:49
Peter.

I am certain that you will have fun.

There has been a discussion about the different groups of ladies in Wanchai. One group that hasn't been mentioned is ' ladies applying for refugee status '. This is a growing trend in Hong Kong. These claims often take 2 to 3 years to finish.

Wow!

A saw a guy walk out of a velvet bar with seven ladies. Fun night for him. Reminds of the multi-millionaire Ozzie punter who years ago would take 10 girls out of NM.

Zuzon X
01-30-13, 03:54
Peter.

I am certain that you will have fun.

There has been a discussion about the different groups of ladies in Wanchai. One group that hasn't been mentioned is ' ladies applying for refugee status '. This is a growing trend in Hong Kong. These claims often take 2 to 3 years to finish.Chantik is right about the group applying for refugee status who are mostly Indonesian overstayers. With the exception of a very very few genuine cases all applicants apply for refugee only once they have been caught by police / immigration for whatever reason to avoid being sent back to their home country. There must be a handbook for this among the girls because they all come up with one of the 5 standard stories why they would be in danger when going back to Indonesia. .

However, the government is cracking down on this and immigration as well as the duty lawyer office are instructed to deal quickly with all the cases and get rid of the backlog. Very soon the refugee girls will have their cases handled and finalized within short and not anymore over years. These girls have actually a pretty nice living because they get food and cloths supplied by the government. Often they sell those things and go back to claim more free supply from the government.

The nice thing is that those girls are very flexible with their time and you can spend time with them on any day and at any time.

Chantik
01-30-13, 05:57
Chantik is right about the group applying for refugee status who are mostly Indonesian overstayers. With the exception of a very very few genuine cases all applicants apply for refugee only once they have been caught by police / immigration for whatever reason to avoid being sent back to their home country. There must be a handbook for this among the girls because they all come up with one of the 5 standard stories why they would be in danger when going back to Indonesia. .

However, the government is cracking down on this and immigration as well as the duty lawyer office are instructed to deal quickly with all the cases and get rid of the backlog. Very soon the refugee girls will have their cases handled and finalized within short and not anymore over years. These girls have actually a pretty nice living because they get food and cloths supplied by the government. Often they sell those things and go back to claim more free supply from the government.

The nice thing is that those girls are very flexible with their time and you can spend time with them on any day and at any time.My understanding is not one case has been approved.

Think you can apply for refugee status for political / social / religious reasons.

Think Indonesia is fine with political / social reasons. There is sometimes religious differences. Whether this is enough to make you a refugee I have no idea.

Johnny Rocket
01-30-13, 21:03
Seems that there has been a flood of Thais into certain 141-heavy buildings lately. Anyone know why? Don't the Thais usually work Wan Chai or whatnot?

Chantik
01-31-13, 06:20
Seems that there has been a flood of Thais into certain 141-heavy buildings lately. Anyone know why? Don't the Thais usually work Wan Chai or whatnot?Actually one or two Thai ladies run escort agencies in HK on the Kowloon side. So many of the Thai ladies work for agencies.

Some of the Thai's in wanchai are actually permanent residents.

Ramn HK
01-31-13, 07:26
Amazonia appears to be paying "bonuses" to the staff depending on the numbers of drinks that are ordered through them. I have had waitresses ask me why I did not order the drink through them rather than getting the drink from the waitress who asked me if I wanted another one. Seen this happen time and over again. That's why when a girl approaches a punter or vice versa, there's a waitress who homes in for the kill. This generally happens at most bars anyway. Its amazing some of the female regulars whether they be hustlers or not are left well alone by the waitresses, while we men get hounded. I am not a drinker that nurses his beer, so their pushiness gets too much at times. I understand where you're coming from. Gets very tiring after a while.


Find many of the girls just cruise by once the Amazonia shutters are closed. The bar is small so many of the girls just float through. The staff and girls really pump you for drinks so it is hard to just chill and enjoy the music. Better places in LKF but hard to bring a DH.

Chantik
01-31-13, 19:55
Ramn.

I think I understand what you are saying.

About a week ago, I had to quickly see my girlfriend in Amazonia, before I went to work.

Found my friend who was chatting to a guy. Straight away the waitress went to the guy and asked him to order me a drink, He said no, I said no, my friend said no (as I was only staying for 2 minutes). But the waitress wouldn't leave. I got so angry with the waitress that I ordered a drink, paid for it, took one sip and left.

It was high pressure tactics. I wouldn't like to be a guy. It could even be dangerous standing next to a lady.

Tiger 888
02-01-13, 01:20
...but the waitress wouldn't leave. I got so angry with the waitress that I ordered a drink, paid for it, took one sip and left.Sorry to say, but in my opinion that was the wrongest thing you could do. You encouraged her. She made her cut and couldn't care less how much you drink. I would have just ignored her or continued the talk outside.

Chantik
02-01-13, 05:58
Sorry to say, but in my opinion that was the wrongest thing you could do. You encouraged her. She made her cut and couldn't care less how much you drink. I would have just ignored her or continued the talk outside.

The waitress was shocked when I paid for the drink. Continued to look at the guy.

Boarer
02-01-13, 13:38
The waitress was shocked when I paid for the drink. Continued to look at the guy.
Sorry to say, but in my opinion that was the wrongest thing you could do. You encouraged her. She made her cut and couldn't care less how much you drink. I would have just ignored her or continued the talk outside.Think Chantik thinks the increased street creds and shock value was well worth the cost of the drink.

Guess one could 1. Ignore the waitress. 2. Call the management on the waitress. Or 3. Take the drinks and ladies to the outside stool in front of security to finish the conversation and then return to delicately sip the remaining drink for the next 4 hours. I tend to gravitate toward option 3 as I usually do not like to get staff fired.


I am not a drinker that nurses his beer, so their pushiness gets too much at times. I understand where you're coming from. Gets very tiring after a while.I guard my drink more than my girls. As in chess, I do not let go of the drink until I am finished with it. LOL

JackTheLad2
02-01-13, 17:47
Guess one could 1. Ignore the waitress. 2. Call the management on the waitress. Or 3. Take the drinks and ladies to the outside stool in front of security to finish the conversation and then return to delicately sip the remaining drink for the next 4 hours.Interesting last few posts. Things must be changing in Amazonia over the past few months. I never regarded it as a prime "pick-up" place, but rather somewhere to go to hear the band or just for a change from the usual haunts. I have, nevertheless met a few girls there but have never experienced what Chantik met with. Nine out of ten times when I go into a bar I head for the bar to buy my drink from the waitress behind the bar. I usually then stand at the bar and survey the place. If a girl comes up to me and asks for a drink in the first few seconds of conversation, I refuse (politely of course). If she is chatty and not too pushy, and I think there is a possibility of taking it further, I would probably offer to buy her a drink. You soon find out if they are a DH or a WG and of course, there are different approaches thereafter. If a floor waitress approched me, I would take option 1 above. They soon get the message.
Just my view!

Chantik
02-01-13, 19:54
Interesting last few posts. Things must be changing in Amazonia over the past few months. I never regarded it as a prime "pick-up" place, but rather somewhere to go to hear the band or just for a change from the usual haunts. I have, nevertheless met a few girls there but have never experienced what Chantik met with. Nine out of ten times when I go into a bar I head for the bar to buy my drink from the waitress behind the bar. I usually then stand at the bar and survey the place. If a girl comes up to me and asks for a drink in the first few seconds of conversation, I refuse (politely of course). If she is chatty and not too pushy, and I think there is a possibility of taking it further, I would probably offer to buy her a drink. You soon find out if they are a DH or a WG and of course, there are different approaches thereafter. If a floor waitress approched me, I would take option 1 above. They soon get the message.

Just my view!Jack.

For me being a lady its no big drama. I usually have to beg to order a drink. But the attitude of the waitress in Amazonia could scare off guys.

Don't forget that Nep 2 closing means that ladies go to different bars.

Anyway Nep 2 will reopen as HK Cafe in March.

Maybe I can get you an invitation to the opening party.

Card Boy
02-01-13, 21:57
Hello Fellows,

I could visit Hongkong next weekend. Since it's the Chinese New Year weekend I am wondering whether the typical places (New Makati, Nep III, Amazonia etc.) in Wan Chai will be packed or will all girls celebrate with their families? Will the maid parade on Sunday (Bar109 etc.) take place or should I assume a more quiet Sunday?

Zuzon X
02-01-13, 22:24
Hello Fellows,

I could visit Hongkong next weekend. Since it's the Chinese New Year weekend I am wondering whether the typical places (New Makati, Nep III, Amazonia etc.) in Wan Chai will be packed or will all girls celebrate with their families? Will the maid parade on Sunday (Bar109 etc.) take place or should I assume a more quiet Sunday?Hello Card Boy,

You can expect interesting times over CNY because 1. The period from 10. to 13. 02 (Sunday to Wednesday) are statutory holidays and all the DH have holidays on those days. Many more than usual will be able to stay out over night. 2. Many of the DH's employers will be on holiday outside HK's and the DH are completely free in their time.

Unfortunately quite a few DH will still be limited in their timing because the employers who stay back in HK will ask them to work as the CNY period means a lot of family gatherings for which they want their DH to help.

But in general, CNY is the best time for hunting.

Card Boy
02-01-13, 23:59
Hello Card Boy,

You can expect interesting times over CNY because 1. The period from 10. To 13. 02 (Sunday to Wednesday) are statutory holidays and all the DH have holidays on those days. Many more than usual will be able to stay out over night. 2. Many of the DH's employers will be on holiday outside HK's and the DH are completely free in their time.

Unfortunately quite a few DH will still be limited in their timing because the employers who stay back in HK will ask them to work as the CNY period means a lot of family gatherings for which they want their DH to help.

But in general, CNY is the best time for hunting.This sounds pretty interesting! Thanks a bunch. I guess I'll have to fly in based on your comment

Card Boy
02-02-13, 00:09
This sounds pretty interesting! Thanks a bunch. I guess I'll have to fly in based on your commentSorry for asking more details about the 109bar.

I had the pleasure to join one of the Sunday morning maid parades three month ago. It was really a lot of fun and flirting with a very cute girl.

Since there will be the public holidays next week one question: Can I expect the same party on Monday and / or Tuesday next week. Similar to the regular Sunday ones?

Boarer
02-02-13, 02:59
Interesting last few posts. Things must be changing in Amazonia over the past few months. I never regarded it as a prime "pick-up" place, but rather somewhere to go to hear the band or just for a change from the usual haunts.Agreed. It is one of the places I can bring an Indo or Filipinna to chill and to listen to a band without drawing too much attention. Dusk, Wanch and LKF might still draw some stares. Just like a firm feeling woman and a well strung guitar sometimes.


But in general, CNY is the best time for hunting.Think most long holidays are good as employers are away or willing to let DH stay out late.

Zuzon X
02-02-13, 05:18
Think most long holidays are good as employers are away or willing to let DH stay out late.Cannot fully agree. Christmas is much quieter because many of the Pinays try to go back home to see their families over Christmas which is an important time for them. But CNY neither Pinays nor Indos care about those days and all of them stay in HK.

AussieDoug
02-02-13, 12:13
Hello Fellows,

I could visit Hongkong next weekend. Since it's the Chinese New Year weekend I am wondering whether the typical places (New Makati, Nep III, Amazonia etc.) in Wan Chai will be packed or will all girls celebrate with their families? Will the maid parade on Sunday (Bar109 etc.) take place or should I assume a more quiet Sunday?I have found that in many cases the entire Chinese family will go to China, and the DH will have free rein while they are away, that means overnights in many cases, but never go to her employer's place, some neighbour will dob her in and she will lose job.

Chantik
02-02-13, 13:51
NM is having a CNY party on Wednesday 13th February from 9pm.

Should be some interesting costumes.

Pita123
02-02-13, 14:28
I have found that in many cases the entire Chinese family will go to China, and the DH will have free rein while they are away, that means overnights in many cases, but never go to her employer's place, some neighbour will dob her in and she will lose job.And the employer may have a nannycam and you will show up in photos on Facebook asking as to your identity.

One Eyed Man
02-02-13, 15:12
I recently spent some days around Christmas in Wan Chai, and the bars were really hopping. If you're not going away for Christmas, then it's a fun place to spend the holidays. I went to the following places:

Escape. It was always my first stop of the night, but it's a shadow of the former Fenwick's. Maybe the girls stayed away because most of the expats were away, but it was my first stop of every night, but I turned around and left because it was so empty. There were quite a few girls in there, but it's so damn dark in there you can't get a good look at the girls.

Neptune 3. I only went in once or twice. It seemed like an insider's place, not so many people. I didn't have a good feeling about the place and left right away.

New Makati (2?). This is my favorite bar in Wan Chai by far. It was rocking every night I was there, and by asking the manager nicely, I got an entry card for the Christmas Eve / Christmas Day / New Year's parties. Maybe there are a lot of Filipinas there, but I'm not able to make them out. It seems like all Indonesians to me. And the usual drunk expats. Why is it that really tall (like 6'+) caucasians lose all sense of their surroundings when they (we) have had a few and just mindlessly bump into everyone in their path? I'm always nervous about going there on the weekend, because I met a very nice DH that always finds me and limits my options.

Amazonia. This was a great new find for me this trip. The Filipino band knocks out excellent heavy metal covers but can immediately switch to decent reggae. I didn't have any problem with overly aggressive waitresses or girls asking for lady drinks at all. I think the waitresses were normally aggressive. I met a lovely petite Vietnamese woman there with a sultry beautiful face. Back to the room, and she says she's had two kids, pendulous but still awesome C-cup breasts. I forgot myself and didn't negotiate a price before, so she asked for 1500 and of course took off right after the first pop. She seemed to know other girls there, so Amazonia seems like a Vietnamese place to me.

I just checked hotel prices, and they're sky-high during the Feb. 10-13 Chinese New Year period, so you probably need to have a reservation already unless you want to spend at least $250 a night.

Speaking of hotels, I'm like some suggestions of where to stay. I usually stay at the Metropark, which is right in the center of the action. I stayed at the Burlington once-it's kind of a strange serviced apartment. I'm looking for something a little more upscale (and with more international TV channels) but not too expensive? How is the Empire?

Charly Foxtrot
02-02-13, 16:33
I just checked hotel prices, and they're sky-high during the Feb. 10-13 Chinese New Year period, so you probably need to have a reservation already unless you want to spend at least $250 a night.

Speaking of hotels, I'm like some suggestions of where to stay. I usually stay at the Metropark, which is right in the center of the action. I stayed at the Burlington once-it's kind of a strange serviced apartment. I'm looking for something a little more upscale (and with more international TV channels) but not too expensive? How is the Empire?Metro Park is far better than Empire, in my opinion. You are right, it is right at ground zero for the action.

I booked my room 2 weeks ago through Agoda and got a good deal at the Regal I-Club nearby on Johnston Road. I am staying for 14 nights so it averaged out very reasonably. The prices for the 10-13 period are very expensive now. My rate has increased somewhat since I booked it.

Good luck.

Chantik
02-02-13, 19:19
One Eyed Man.

Doubt that you can beat the Metropark for value.

You could try the Novatel which is around 400 metres from Wanchai in Lockhart road. But requires key card access access. And is probably double the price.

You could try the Ramada which is in Sheung Wan. 10 min by taxi to Wanchai. Room rates are very affordable.

Think the Empire has recently been renovated. I think the Metropark is better.

Good luck.

Teltel
02-03-13, 03:05
And the employer may have a nannycam and you will show up in photos on Facebook asking as to your identity.And some nanny cams are online realtime, so you could be the next streaming live porn show. Apart from that if the employer has an online nanny cam you could find the police or building security at the door.

I know some HK parents who have children living and studying overseas and online cams monitor what and when the kids are doing.

Teltel

Boarer
02-03-13, 11:58
And some nanny cams are online realtimeBeen available for around a decade so for some, they were already caught on tape.


You could try the Novatel .,., I think the Metropark is better.The former is very pricey for non airline staff and one could get better value at other establishments. Historically, the Metropark group has been at the epicenter of last two pandemic outbreaks in HK. I personally would not tempt fate.

Chantik
02-03-13, 16:25
Been available for around a decade so for some, they were already caught on tape.

The former is very pricey for non airline staff and one could get better value at other establishments. Historically, the Metropark group has been at the epicenter of last two pandemic outbreaks in HK. I personally would not tempt fate.You could be the lucky guy who at the last pandemic at metro park in wanchai. Got stuck with a W / L for one week.

JackTheLad2
02-03-13, 18:58
You could be the lucky guy who at the last pandemic at metro park in wanchai. Got stuck with a W / L for one week.Yeah. His wife was delighted too! LOL

Chantik
02-03-13, 19:13
Yeah. His wife was delighted too! LOLHe may have been horrified staying with his wife for one week. Don't forget they were locked up.

Mighty Spearsman
02-04-13, 07:18
You could be the lucky guy who at the last pandemic at metro park in Wanchai. Got stuck with a W / L for one week.I remember that story well, I was living in Jakarta at the time. One of my business associates (a big wig at AIG) knew who the guy was and confirmed the truth of the story.

Chantik
02-04-13, 15:50
I remember that story well, I was living in Jakarta at the time. One of my business associates (a big wig at AIG) knew who the guy was and confirmed the truth of the story.I hope they were able to smuggle in condoms.

Remember at the time that different items made their way into the hotel.

Boarer
02-05-13, 09:31
I hope they were able to smuggle in condoms.

Remember at the time that different items made their way into the hotel.More curious who the poor sod was and how he faired on his grocery run. Maybe Mighty S might know. Care packages and supplies (including personal hygiene) were allowed in. WL was denied request to move to her own room (to set up special services for a captive clientele? Talk about cornering the market and having a captive clientele! LOL) Wonder if you know the WL. Was also surprised it was only one guy in a compromising position as it appears the lads from South America (patients zero) were also punting. Glad it was not I, though was in a couple close calls on issues that would have made it to the local and international papers.

War Hammer
02-05-13, 15:24
Speaking of hotels, I'm like some suggestions of where to stay. I usually stay at the Metropark, which is right in the center of the action. I stayed at the Burlington once-it's kind of a strange serviced apartment. I'm looking for something a little more upscale (and with more international TV channels) but not too expensive? How is the Empire?I have stayed at the Empire several times and it's generally clean and nice. They have renovated some rooms. The last few times they have put me in large corner rooms which is great. They are almost double the size of standard rooms. The bathrooms have tub / shower combo and also a separate standup shower. For comparison, the standard rooms are still about the size of the average room at the Metropark that I've stayed in. Bathroom in the standard room is basic with sink, toilet, tub / shower. I've also seen one of the standard room setups with a glass wall in the shower overlooking the room. Key card is needed for the elevator. I didn't watch much TV, but if I remember the English channels are pretty much limited to a few basics (CNN, HBO, etc.)

Chantik
02-05-13, 20:05
Definitely some issues with some regular Escape W / L's.

Something to do with taking guys out.

Some are going to Amazonia / Joe Bananas and even to Forest.

Think the ladies will be happy when HK Cafe opens.

One day I will drop in after 1am. And see if they let me in.

JackTheLad2
02-08-13, 14:15
No reports on the forum since Chantik on February 5 and the last factual report was by One Eyed Mn on February 2!!

What is happening?

Are all the punters away?

Have the bars all closed?

Have all the WG's gone home?

Tell them not to worry - I arrive on March 13.

Chantik
02-08-13, 17:21
Think Wanchai is as busy as it will get.

Has been fairly busy for the last 2 weeks, though the ladies are moving from bar to bar.

Makati. Good, solid crowds.

Amazonia. Bit busier than normal. Definitely more ladies.

Escape. Steady to good. Restrictions on ladies are hurting.

Neptune 3. Fairly steady by their standards.

Forest. Gets busy on the weekenda.

Joe Bananas. Getting a few ladies. Often Thai.

My observation is that there are more Filipina's in Hk. Not to previous levels.

Seems to be less South Americans and Vietnamese.

Unless my eyes are wrong. Seem to be a some Mainland Chinese ladies in the bars.

But of course this information means little because Jack has a way with ladies.

Sky Ryder
02-09-13, 02:16
Think Wanchai is as busy as it will get.

Has been fairly busy for the last 2 weeks, though the ladies are moving from bar to bar.

But of course this information means little because Jack has a way with ladies.Chantik,

Thanks for the update, I am thinking of dropping into town tomorrow for a day or two. Nice to know there are options. BTW Happy New Year!

Mmlouie
02-09-13, 03:57
My HK freebie, just love HK.

Mmlouie