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Salty Wet Guy
05-03-14, 21:22
Hey,
I will be in the area until May 6 and have tried sauna already.
Would like to join a group or another member.
Please, you cAn reach me on wechat with the same username as here.
When is the next group fun? I want to try a foursome or more, would like to swap gal with too.
Any other kinky play is good. If you prefer PM that would be good as well.
Was in HK one night only, with colleagues not in the hunt so discretion was necessary. Checked Craigslist since I couldn't "safely" hunt and bring my prize home.
Found Cindy, a pleasant Indo, and communicated with her to set things up.
http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4435405092.html
Texting worked well, and she arrived at the appointed hour. Very friendly, very passionate, very talented with her tongue as advertised. She would've stayed overnight had I wanted. Multiple rounds, decent BBBJ with swallow, very capable massage. Very talkative and friendly. Treat her respectfully and she will give you a very good time.
Found Cindy, a pleasant Indo, and communicated with her to set things up.
http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4435405092.htmlIndeed Nearly the whole of her ad is about her tongue skills. Whats was the damage on this?
Indeed Nearly the whole of her ad is about her tongue skills. Whats was the damage on this?1500HKD, for as long as I wished her to be there. 1 shot or overnight. She didn't count, nor even want to look at what I gave her. She preferred the pretense of receiving a gift of spending money.
1500HKD, for as long as I wished her to be there. 1 shot or overnight. She didn't count, nor even want to look at what I gave her. She preferred the pretense of receiving a gift of spending money.Thanks, seems a fair price for what you reported being on the tray.
You guys are funny. The custom in western countries is to put the money in an envelope and give it to the lady at the beginning of the booking. The theory goes that it saves embarrassment. Seems similar to the situation with Cindy.
The custom in western countries is to put the money in an envelope and give it to the lady at the beginning of the booking.Wrong. The "custom" in western countries you reference isn't uniform, and is practiced for three reasons, none of which is embarrassment-related.
1)"Gift" in envelope supposedly provides plausible deniability regarding engaging in an illegal act.
2) Collecting before, envelope or not, ensures the girl gets paid, whether or not she delivers as implied / promised. She can not deliver. It's illegal, what can the guy do? Also protects the girl against unscrupulous guys who fuck first, then refuse to pay after. It's illegal. What can she do? Generally girls in the USA typically count every Jackson before anything starts, even a conversation. It is all transactional with most of them.
3) Collecting before allows the girl to claim that such payment only is the "agency fee," of which she gets nothing or only a small amount. If anything more than idle conversation is to occur, significant extra tipping will be required, again before even one shred of clothing is removed.
These behaviors aren't uniform, but they are not uncommon. The ideal provider in a western country where prostitution is illegal provides GFE services, and accepts payment after (in full from a satisfied and honest customer).
Wrong. The "custom" in western countries you reference isn't uniform, and is practiced for three reasons, none of which is embarrassment-related.
1)"Gift" in envelope supposedly provides plausible deniability regarding engaging in an illegal act.
2) Collecting before, envelope or not, ensures the girl gets paid, whether or not she delivers as implied / promised. She can not deliver. It's illegal, what can the guy do? Also protects the girl against unscrupulous guys who fuck first, then refuse to pay after. It's illegal. What can she do? Generally girls in the USA typically count every Jackson before anything starts, even a conversation. It is all transactional with most of them.
3) Collecting before allows the girl to claim that such payment only is the "agency fee," of which she gets nothing or only a small amount. If anything more than idle conversation is to occur, significant extra tipping will be required, again before even one shred of clothing is removed.
These behaviors aren't uniform, but they are not uncommon. The ideal provider in a western country where prostitution is illegal provides GFE services, and accepts payment after (in full from a satisfied and honest customer).You don't advertise On CL if you are shy about about receiving money in return for sexual favors. You don't quote a price if you are shy about receiving money. And the ladies adds are very suggestive in terms of pics and services listed. Doubt she is shy about receiving money.
And your response indicates that it is more common than uncommon to receive payment at the beginning of the session in western countries. Gee - For example private escorts in Australia are all heading towards deposit fees days/weeks before a booking.
You don't advertise On CL if you are shy about about receiving money in return for sexual favors. You don't quote a price if you are shy about receiving money. And the ladies adds are very suggestive in terms of pics and services listed. Doubt she is shy about receiving money.
And your response indicates that it is more common than uncommon to receive payment at the beginning of the session in western countries. Gee. For example private escorts in Australia are all heading towards deposit fees days / weeks before a booking.I would contend that there is no such thing as a 'common' standard. There are many Western countries, and surely many different approaches, even within the one country.
And I have no idea if the Australian approach that you describe is standard throughout all the states. Australia has different prostitution laws in each state which may affect payment standards; or it did last time I was there (I am Australian, but rarely return there).
BTW, I think that you and Ebauche are using the word 'embarrassment' with different nuances of meaning. Ebauche's point (2) probably equates to your use of the word: saves the embarrassment of a shitfight over payment.
And Ebauche describes the "ideal payment", where prostitution is illegal, as being after the fact. For providers, the ideal approach is payment before; for customers the ideal is payment after!
Cheers
You don't advertise On CL if you are shy about about receiving money in return for sexual favors. You don't quote a price if you are shy about receiving money. And the ladies adds are very suggestive in terms of pics and services listed. Doubt she is shy about receiving money.
And your response indicates that it is more common than uncommon to receive payment at the beginning of the session in western countries. Gee. For example private escorts in Australia are all heading towards deposit fees days / weeks before a booking.In the USA, as a respected repeat customer, price and payment isn't even mentioned at all. There have even been times a provider and I have BOTH forgotten until I've already left. I have always immediately returned and cleared things up. I wish to remain a respected repeat customer with a select few USA providers. However, you can pretty much expect in the USA to pay up front.
In German FKKs, everything is strictly ex post facto, regardless of whether the sex is perfunctory and transactional or playful and GFE.
However, in Asia (in my experience mainland China, HKG, S. Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Cambodia, Vietnam & Thailand. Note I have zero experience in Japan) I almost ALWAYS pay after (excepting bar fines and sometimes online call girls). Those times when a girls agrees to get paid after while we are in the bar, but changes her tune back at my hotel, more often than not I will remind her of our agreement, show her my cash, and express intent to tip for good service, but only AFTER. If she digs her stilettos into the floor and demands up front payment, I usually show her the door and invite her to leave. I then either call it a night, disappointed, or return to the hunt. The reason I do this, especially if I'm close to the bar where I met my belle du nuit, is that generally when I've paid up front the experience tends to be rushed and unsatisfying, as the lass too often is counting the cash from her NEXT customer in her mind before she's done with me. This is particularly true for LT arrangements, where a girl can be sorely tempted to turn one LT into potentially two STs. When that clash over payments occurs, what it truly signifies is that I've made a mistake and misread the girl and our chemistry. So, I chalk it up to lessons learned and send her away. I tend to frequent the same establishments, and to become known. I understand some of the girls might have been poorly treated by other mongers. And I know many new girls (especially Vietnamese in SIN) are counseled by their elder sisters to demand cash up front. But that just doesn't work for me. I treat the girls respectfully, and those who know me understand I am honest and will treat them right. More often than not a girl I've sent away apologizes the next night and asks for another chance. Note however that the rules with online call girls seem a bit different. Cash up front is more of a given, but in most cases you're dealing with a behind-the-scenes pimp pulling the strings. Cindy's approach therefore surprised me. We ended up having a great time, are still communicating, and I'll absolutely see her next time I'm in HKG. She likely didn't intend it, but her approach essentially is good customer service and good marketing. Word of mouth about her mouth, so to speak.
Boils down to this with any given provider. Her body, her rules about how she allows me to enjoy it. My money, my rules about how and when I choose to part with it. Different rules in different markets and through different channels.
FWIW, I'd let my balls turn blue before I paid a deposit.
In the USA, as a respected repeat customer, price and payment isn't even mentioned at all. There have even been times a provider and I have BOTH forgotten until I've already left. I have always immediately returned and cleared things up. I wish to remain a respected repeat customer with a select few USA providers. However, you can pretty much expect in the USA to pay up front.
In German FKKs, everything is strictly ex post facto, regardless of whether the sex is perfunctory and transactional or playful and GFE.
However, in Asia (in my experience mainland China, HKG, S. Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Cambodia, Vietnam & Thailand. Note I have zero experience in Japan) I almost ALWAYS pay after (excepting bar fines and sometimes online call girls). Those times when a girls agrees to get paid after while we are in the bar, but changes her tune back at my hotel, more often than not I will remind her of our agreement, show her my cash, and express intent to tip for good service, but only AFTER. If she digs her stilettos into the floor and demands up front payment, I usually show her the door and invite her to leave. I then either call it a night, disappointed, or return to the hunt. The reason I do this, especially if I'm close to the bar where I met my belle du nuit, is that generally when I've paid up front the experience tends to be rushed and unsatisfying, as the lass too often is counting the cash from her NEXT customer in her mind before she's done with me. This is particularly true for LT arrangements, where a girl can be sorely tempted to turn one LT into potentially two STs. When that clash over payments occurs, what it truly signifies is that I've made a mistake and misread the girl and our chemistry. So, I chalk it up to lessons learned and send her away. I tend to frequent the same establishments, and to become known. I understand some of the girls might have been poorly treated by other mongers. And I know many new girls (especially Vietnamese in SIN) are counseled by their elder sisters to demand cash up front. But that just doesn't work for me. I treat the girls respectfully, and those who know me understand I am honest and will treat them right. More often than not a girl I've sent away apologizes the next night and asks for another chance. Note however that the rules with online call girls seem a bit different. Cash up front is more of a given, but in most cases you're dealing with a behind-the-scenes pimp pulling the strings. Cindy's approach therefore surprised me. We ended up having a great time, are still communicating, and I'll absolutely see her next time I'm in HKG. She likely didn't intend it, but her approach essentially is good customer service and good marketing. Word of mouth about her mouth, so to speak.
Boils down to this with any given provider. Her body, her rules about how she allows me to enjoy it. My money, my rules about how and when I choose to part with it. Different rules in different markets and through different channels.
FWIW, I'd let my balls turn blue before I paid a deposit.You are getting your knickers into a knot. My response to your original post highlighted the phrase the girl was shy to receive payment for her services, not about payment before or after service. And then you provided a link to the add which by CL Standards was a fairly strong in relation to the use of text, services and photos. You don't advertise online if you are shy about providing services for payment for services. On the contrary it takes COURAGE to advertise online.
We can be sure that the GIRL won't be shy for long, especially if she lives up to the SERVICES listed in her add.
You are getting your knickers into a knot. My response to your original post highlighted the phrase the girl was shy to receive payment for her services, not about payment before or after service. And then you provided a link to the add which by CL Standards was a fairly strong in relation to the use of text, services and photos. You don't advertise online if you are shy about providing services for payment for services. On the contrary it takes COURAGE to advertise online.
We can be sure that the GIRL won't be shy for long, especially if she lives up to the SERVICES listed in her add.I never stated she was shy about receiving money, merely that she didn't want to count it. Actually, she didn't even want to touch it and wanted me to place it in her purse. She then thanked me for "spending money."
My inclusion of the link to her CL ad came before posting anything about payment or perceived behavior. You were the one who seemed to draw conclusions, then make blanket statements regarding common process. I merely tried to illustrate how common process actually works in a variety of locales and cultures, from the customer's POV.
Back to the girl in question, who I highly recommend, she's either very green (to P4P, not to bumping uglies), or has decided the demure damsel act is part of her "on stage persona."
FreebieFan
05-07-14, 08:24
. Both advertise as VIP escorts for discerning gentlemen, but it would appear that pictures from both sites are stolen from various Asian models and actresses.
Cheers all.Wow. Thats really the first time I ever heard of that. NOT
We are 4 friends who plan to have a 2 nights stop over in HK.
Is there a place we can party?
Or a way to get 4 chicks company to our hotel?
Any help will be appreciate.
Can anyone please tell me how is the scene in Hong-Kong to find a white escort girl there are lots of website claiming to be providing white escort girls but are these girls indeed genuine and the same as what they put on their website. Is there any other genuine website of agency which has the same model what they show on their website?
Offshore Swell
05-11-14, 08:07
As a visitor to HK Learning the punting idiosyncracies of a new city is always an interesting curve, first impressions can sometimes be insightful. I had done a scan of the 141 and 161 websites and from there narrowed the target destination down to Sham Shui Po, based on the large amount of girls available around there. The 141 website in particular is helpful in that you can select a street, (preferably the one you are standing on, and it will list all the available walk ups on that street). Navigation for dummies really.
Having limited time to sneak away from Lady OS without raising suspicions, I caught the MTR from Sha Tin. First visit was a Sunday afternoon and emerging from the MTR was a reminder of just how busy this city gets. Lots of Indonesian girls milling around and If one had a place to take them and a little bahasa. I think it would be fairly easy to dispense with the walk ups.
One of my aims was to see how easy it was to get BBFS, having got this first time last year with a 141 walk up. My general rule of thumb is to offer the initial price again as an inducement. This works in a surprising amount of instances.
The places are quite easy to spot for out of town mongers once you recognise the signs, they are always up a dingy stairway one or two levels above the street. The entrance will generally have a pink flourescent light fitting above it and often a crudely written a, b, c,d, e. This designates the rooms. Climb up. The girls who are busy will have turned the signs on their doors to "WAIT", if she is free, it will say "BELL"
Being a Sunday it was busy. Not so many were free. Quality was varied from nice to run as fast as you can. A warning for mongers from other jurisdictions is that I believe the rules for these girls is that once you cross the threshold into the room, afee becomes payable. A funny story on that later.
Of three ladies, the first two refused my inducements to forget the condom. The third who was quite a good looking girl did not hesitate. It was all OS could do to not come in a lovely feeling pussy with big Firm C cup mammaries in my face. Got dressed washed upand hot footed it back to Sha Tin. Having saved my seed. Whew!
My next HK discovery was two mornings later. Up early I caught the MTR back to Sham Shui Po at seven AM, this is better. HK in the mornings is a different place before everybody gets up. The pink flouro fittings stood out up all the streets. This was a morning run with a difference. Up stairs, down stairs quite a workout really. On to the next light. Some places were locked, a surprising amount were not but the WAIT signs were out in force. A few still had the BELL sign out and I was recieved by two ladies. One of whom I crossed the doorway too quickly before realising this woman was of considerable years. But she wouldn't let me out. Each time I pulled at the door she pushed it shut. She was strong so strong! Finally as I was running out of puff, OS had to concede defeat and handed over 200HKD and voila! She let me out. OS took off down the stairs feeling pretty sheepish. But thems the rules it seems.
Capped my morning run off with a visit back to my BBFS babe of two days earlier. This time I let a big load go inside of her while sucking on one of her oversize nipples Yum, it felt so good. Bolted back down my last set of stairs, down into the MTR and emerged from the Elevator in Sha Tin 15 minutes later with a fresh coffee in hand Just as Lady OS was contemplating getting out of bed. Nothing like a morning walk to start the day.
All in all, these girls were mostly 6/10 their rooms were all spotlessly clean despite the surroundings. I did one extended afternoon foray through this district a week later but out of around eight girls, only one would do BB. Most did BBBJ. A lot of effort for limited success but thats how you learn to punt.
Hope that helps.
OS
Average Geek
05-11-14, 14:57
Hello, Long time lurker first time poster.
Although I have visited HK in the past before, work has been such that I've had very few opportunities to actually get out for some mongering. However, I finally had a trip recently where I would have some time away from colleagues and decided to finally give it a go.
After going through the thread, I decided to try my luck at 37 Dundas. From RTFF, I was aware that once I got in I would be presented with a couple of not great options initially. This is exactly what happened and I told the mama-san I wanted to see other options. Unfortunately, I spent 5 minutes arguing with the mama-san who kept insisting that there were no options available. It was getting late so I gave up and asked to see the initial girls again.
I went with one who smiled a little more and who seemed to have a slightly better figure (of course that would turn out be wishful thinking). Up the stairs to the hotel, where surprisingly I was only asked to pay 100 HKD instead of the 120 HKD I was expecting. Once in the room, the clothes come off and it's clear that there was a lot of help from the wonder bra. After a quick shower, we proceed to a quick BBBJ, followed by missionary and doggie.
To be honest, I had had a few whiskeys earlier that day and wasn't likely to cum very soon. She didn't seem very happy about how long I was taking though and wanted to switch to a HJ. That wasn't going to really help so I asked her to switch to a BJ which wasn't well received, until I proposed a 100 HKD tip. The service got pretty enthusiastic at this stage and I eventually finished off a few minutes later.
On the whole I didn't find it a great experience. Any suggestions from experienced members on how to get a better experience?
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Having limited time to sneak away from Lady OS without raising suspicions, I caught the MTR from Sha Tin. First visit was a Sunday afternoon and emerging from the MTR was a reminder of just how busy this city gets. Lots of Indonesian girls milling around and If one had a place to take them and a little bahasa. I think it would be fairly easy to dispense with the walk ups.
One of my aims was to see how easy it was to get BBFS, having got this first time last year with a 141 walk up. My general rule of thumb is to offer the initial price again as an inducement. This works in a surprising amount of instances.
The places are quite easy to spot for out of town mongers once you recognise the signs, they are always up a dingy stairway one or two levels above the street. The entrance will generally have a pink flourescent light fitting above it and often a crudely written a, be, see, the, e. This designates the rooms. Climb up. The girls who are busy will have turned the signs on their doors to "WAIT", if she is free, it will say "BELL"
Being a Sunday it was busy. Not so many were free. Quality was varied from nice to run as fast as you can. A warning for mongers from other jurisdictions is that I believe the rules for these girls is that once you cross the threshold into the room, afee becomes payable. A funny story on that later.
Of three ladies, the first two refused my inducements to forget the condom. The third who was quite a good looking girl did not hesitate. It was all OS could do to not come in a lovely feeling pussy with big Firm C cup mammaries in my face. Got dressed washed upand hot footed it back to Sha Tin. Having saved my seed. Whew!
My next HK discovery was two mornings later. Up early I caught the MTR back to Sham Shui Po at seven AM, this is better. HK in the mornings is a different place before everybody gets up. The pink flouro fittings stood out up all the streets. This was a morning run with a difference. Up stairs, down stairs quite a workout really. On to the next light. Some places were locked, a surprising amount were not but the WAIT signs were out in force. A few still had the BELL sign out and I was recieved by two ladies. One of whom I crossed the doorway too quickly before realising this woman was of considerable years. But she wouldn't let me out. Each time I pulled at the door she pushed it shut. She was strong so strong! Finally as I was running out of puff, OS had to concede defeat and handed over 200HKD and voila! She let me out. OS took off down the stairs feeling pretty sheepish. But thems the rules it seems.
Capped my morning run off with a visit back to my BBFS babe of two days earlier. This time I let a big load go inside of her while sucking on one of her oversize nipples Yum, it felt so good. Bolted back down my last set of stairs, down into the MTR and emerged from the Elevator in Sha Tin 15 minutes later with a fresh coffee in hand Just as Lady OS was contemplating getting out of bed. Nothing like a morning walk to start the day.
All in all, these girls were mostly 6/10 their rooms were all spotlessly clean despite the surroundings. I did one extended afternoon foray through this district a week later but out of around eight girls, only one would do BB. Most did BBBJ. A lot of effort for limited success but thats how you learn to punt.
Hope that helps.
OSEventually, we will go to your funeral.
Then your SO's funeral.
Just my opinion.
Enjoy and report, covered.
P13.
Offshore Swell
05-13-14, 18:10
Eventually, we will go to your funeral.
Then your SO's funeral.
Just my opinion.
Enjoy and report, covered.
P13.Thanks so much for your kind concerns, I was getting quite worried untill I noticed your oxymoron.
Regards OS
One Eyed Man
05-16-14, 17:44
Makati Birthday Party will be held 8pm to 10pm on Thursday the 15th May. Free food and drink. Invitation only. I will attend (if time premits) and greet some ISGer'sFirst of all, congratulations to the New Makati for being in business for 25 years. That being said, it was a total sausage fest! The male:female ratio was like 20:1. Clearly, all the guys there didn't mind being with a lot of other guys if there's free beer.
First of all, congratulations to the New Makati for being in business for 25 years. That being said, it was a total sausage fest! The male:female ratio was like 20:1. Clearly, all the guys there didn't mind being with a lot of other guys if there's free beer.What did you expect. It was by invitation only for the regulars. Not the on and off pro's (who are recently thinned out a lot). And it was not on a Sunday afternoon.
The bigger issue was the guys who go to Makati once a year, but somehow think they should receive an invitation. And some manage to get an invitation. Definitely less ladies in attendance because lots of ladies have had their refugee status claim processed (unsuccessfully). I imagine that after the Indo helpers stop coming in 2017 there will be more visiting on tourist visa's. There was another visit by immigration / police to Wabchai last night. They seem to be visiting more often!
One Eyed Man
05-18-14, 14:01
The bigger issue was the guys who go to Makati once a year, but somehow think they should receive an invitation. And some manage to get an invitation. Definitely less ladies in attendance because lots of ladies have had their refugee status claim processed (unsuccessfully). I imagine that after the Indo helpers stop coming in 2017 there will be more visiting on tourist visa's. There was another visit by immigration / police to Wabchai last night. They seem to be visiting more often!I always get invitations for the various parties when I ask the door people nicely. Maybe they know me and that I always buy drinks and don't cause trouble, but it seems that all you have to do to get an invitation is just ask.
Chantik, please elaborate on what's changing with Indonesian domestic helpers. Are many of them asking for asylum? Is it just for economic reasons, or there are other reasons? What's going on in 2017? Will the number of helpers be reduced by Indonesia or Hong Kong?
One other comment. Back in the Fenwick's days, it seemed that the majority of the DHs were from the Philippines, whereas these days the majority seems to be from Indonesia. What's changed?
I always get invitations for the various parties when I ask the door people nicely. Maybe they know me and that I always buy drinks and don't cause trouble, but it seems that all you have to do to get an invitation is just ask.
Chantik, please elaborate on what's changing with Indonesian domestic helpers. Are many of them asking for asylum? Is it just for economic reasons, or there are other reasons? What's going on in 2017? Will the number of helpers be reduced by Indonesia or Hong Kong?
One other comment. Back in the Fenwick's days, it seemed that the majority of the DHs were from the Philippines, whereas these days the majority seems to be from Indonesia. What's changed?Indonesian Government made the decision about helpers. Apparently they want to send workers under the skilled category who will be eligible for permanent residency. Think Hk has started getting the / H from Bangladesh / Myanmar. There are already complaints about lack of English / Cantonese and ability to work fast.
Indo's seeking Asylum has been going on for 2 or 3 years. Lady is picked up by the police/immigration for overstay - Immediately claim they can't return to Indo. HK Govt must follow the UN rules. This usually gives the ladies one or two years extra in HK.
Phillipine ladies found it hard to get repeat tourist visas for the last 2 or 3 years. Not many Indo's in Escape now with ladies having to swipe their I'd and photo. Usually around 5 or 10.
Popped into Nep 3 last night. The ladies are aggressive with the guys. Average crowd for a Saturday night. Even amount of men and women. Actually was surprised at the number of Indo ladies. Previously this has not been a favorite venue.
I notice there is now an Escort Review section. Hope to see reviews from the guys. I may get a mention !
Slow Reloader
05-20-14, 01:06
Anyone checked out some of the girls here? I think the China and locals here are no doubt true females but I'm a tad concerned about the 'mixed' group here. Some of them look nice and quite a few offer anal service. Any chance some of these are not female but 'cut' transvestites?
Been away due to work for AGES and needed to scratch my itch elsewhere. Looking forward to returning to Hong Kong and jumping back into the bar scene in a couple of months time.
Has anyone been to Hari's in TST recently?
Escape & HK Cafe in WC, how's the action there?
Welcome any up to date information.
Please do share.
Many thanks.
Just back from a weekend in HK.
Stayed at the Holiday In Golden mile and visited Haris bar.
Around 10-11 Pm you can find the regular mix of local, South American, Russian and Black FL.
One great Brazilian, tall and sweet blacks.
Price for ST more or less 2000.
Enjoy
Been away due to work for AGES and needed to scratch my itch elsewhere. Looking forward to returning to Hong Kong and jumping back into the bar scene in a couple of months time.
Has anyone been to Hari's in TST recently?
Escape & HK Cafe in WC, how's the action there?
Welcome any up to date information.
Please do share.
Many thanks.
Spent 3 days in HK.
Searched the Craig ist as always and got some interesting contacts. All of them were big fails.
Haris Bar at the Golden mile holiday in was the best.
For first night had a great black chick from Zambia, tall, slim and smiling. For 2000 she was real GFE.
Second night spent in Macau (Rio Sauna) and third night again to Haris and took the brazilian chick. Great service for 2500.
Escape & HK Cafe in WC, how's the action there?
I stopped by Escape Saturday night about 11:00 PM, just over two weeks ago. There were maybe 3 or 4 stunners, Colombians I think, and the majority of the rest of the women were reasonably attractive. There were maybe 25 women total, of which about 15 were Latinas, I think. By that I mean some could have been from the FSU and I thought they were light-skinned Hispanics. It was worth a visit IMHO, unlike New Makati and Neptune III where there were only dogs. I priced one woman, a Costa Rican who asked for 2,000 HKD, but didn't take her.
I wish I'd read Zamziv's post before I went. My hotel was a couple of blocks from Hari's but I didn't know about the pro's.
JackTheLad2
05-30-14, 17:34
It was worth a visit IMHO, unlike New Makati and Neptune III where there were only dogs. I priced one woman, a Costa Rican who asked for 2,000 HKD, but didn't take her.
Almost double the price compared to most of the Wan Chai bars. Is the extra worth it?
Slow Reloader
05-31-14, 04:58
Anyone checked out some of the girls here? I think the China and locals here are no doubt true females but I'm a tad concerned about the 'mixed' group here. Some of them look nice and quite a few offer anal service. Any chance some of these are not female but 'cut' transvestites?
Beijing Lover
05-31-14, 05:35
Anyone checked out some of the girls here? I think the China and locals here are no doubt true females but I'm a tad concerned about the 'mixed' group here. Some of them look nice and quite a few offer anal service. Any chance some of these are not female but 'cut' transvestites?The Thai girls in Fuji building are definitely post-op ladyboys... Scary stuff...
John Smart
05-31-14, 06:05
The Thai girls in Fuji building are definitely post-op ladyboys... Scary stuff...Wah Kin house (3/ F) in Tsuen Wan is where a few post-ops are. Also Kwai Chung and Jordan. Only on the miss site.
I went. Unintentionally first time. With one in Wah Kin house a while back.
Sort of twigged at the end. But then I went back a coupla times.
Once I even did a 3 P!
They are actually very nice. Very feminine. Some you can see a male resemblance poking thru as it were.
With many you can't.
They are not heavy in-your-face ladyboys, quite the opposite in fact.
And some do have exquisite bodies!
The giveaway on the miss site is the check against "Fuck Ass" generally, altho not always this indicates a post-op.
I haven been for a while but their service was always very gentle andattentive I found.
Not 'scary' at all IMHO.
Going by the posts about ladies offering anal. Hope it doesn't mean that I am a ladyboy!
Spending a few days in Hong Kong next week. Got a good rate at metropark wanchai. Hope its a good hotel for bringing.
Back my catch. Just wanted to.
Check if there are any good pick up bars / clubs for Filipino and Indonesian girls. I will start hunting around 08 pm.
What are the current charges for ST and LT.
Thanks in advance,
Regards
JackTheLad2
06-01-14, 23:50
Spending a few days in Hong Kong next week. Got a good rate at metropark wanchai. Hope its a good hotel for bringing.
Back my catch. Just wanted to.
Check if there are any good pick up bars / clubs for Filipino and Indonesian girls. I will start hunting around 08 pm.
What are the current charges for ST and LT.
Thanks in advance,
RegardsWhy don't you just read some reports for the information you are looking for. It's all there and your hotel is right in the heart of the action.
Out of 15 posts, in 13 you have asked exactly the same questions for Dubai, Delhi, Mumbai etc.
Why not post us all a report and give some information instead of just asking?
Going by the posts about ladies offering anal. Hope it doesn't mean that I am a ladyboy!If you are then I am switching "teams" LOL.
If you are then I am switching "teams" LOL. Guys are so paranoid. Anal is commonly offered by escorts. It doesn't mean they are a lady boy or post op.
Less than half of my GENTS ask for anal. It's not for everybody.
Guys are so paranoid. Anal is commonly offered by escorts. It doesn't mean they are a lady boy or post op.
Less than half of my GENTS ask for anal. It's not for everybody. So who is top and who is bottom? LOL.
There are many LBs in Wanchai (and almost where ever there are WGs). Not my cup of tea; I mean both of them.
Why don't you just read some reports for the information you are looking for. It's all there and your hotel is right in the heart of the action.
Out of 15 posts, in 13 you have asked exactly the same questions for Dubai, Delhi, Mumbai etc.
Why not post us all a report and give some information instead of just asking?
Spending a few days in Hong Kong next week. JTL, was going to expand on your previous post to another chap but it had disappeared by the time I got to stable Internet. I agree with your comments to both posters!
So who is top and who is bottom? LOL.
There are many LBs in Wanchai (and almost where ever there are WGs). Not my cup of tea; I mean both of them.
JTL, was going to expand on your previous post to another chap but it had disappeared by the time I got to stable Internet. I agree with your comments to both posters!It depends if Gents ask for the strap on service. You need to be versatile.
It depends if Gents ask for the strap on service. You need to be versatile.Hmmm. Usually focused on my OEM equipment and never thought of wearing a strap on. That would "open many new doors".... LOL
After getting to know the special Chantik this morning. Now at Neptune III and the scene really IS dull. Maybe too early?
After getting to know the special Chantik this morning. Now at Neptune III and the scene really IS dull. Maybe too early?Truly a great experience, I am sure and one of Hong Kong's best little secrets.
Hmmm. Usually focused on my OEM equipment and never thought of wearing a strap on. That would "open many new doors".... LOLLOL. I think Chantik was not referring to you wearing it. Just think who else is supposed to wear it, then.
LOL. I think Chantik was not referring to you wearing it. Just think who else is supposed to wear it, then.Oooohhh. I see your POV. However, I still would prefer to be the one wearing it! LOL.
I was thinking of this ==> Google "strap on for men menage trois double penetration" as I am not sure if I can post an url. Even amazon has it! Not sure if prime.
How does the double mint jingle go? Double the fun? Enjoy!
I haven't see any guys wear a strap on. Think it would be a tight fit.
I haven't see any guys wear a strap on. Think it would be a tight fit.I defer to your expertise as I have not seen anyone wear one either! Though, I do know of one little insatiable vixen who would probably love me to get one to add to her toy chest from her previous punter / BF. 2 to 6 times on her day off and a couple times mid week were not enough for her! She has also indicated an affinity for anal!
Truly a great experience, I am sure and one of Hong Kong's best little secrets.What is? Willing to share via PM? LOL.
was passing though hong kong the other day with a bit of time on my hands on the island.
i search of a good mp i headed to swatow street as another poster had mentioned an easy to find joint there.
well i walked up and down and the only place i could see was a thai mp at the end on the 1st floor. pressed the buzzer and headed up.
was greeted by a cutie with huge stick-out comedy ears. in very bad english she said all the girls were busy so it would be 20 minutes. ok i said, i'll wait. fine said big ears who brought me some water and i sat down to wait. after about 5 minutes another girl arrived who must have been 4 foot tall. was the thai circus in town i wondered? anyway midget starts to say that i couldn't stay as the boss would not be happy and anyway it will be an hour to wait so i'll have to come back. so you are throwing me out i ask? yep says midget. big ears peeked around the curtain with a sheepish shrug. so i fucked off.
i walked a couple of streets east and found a foot massage place also up on the first floor. couple of local dudes getting a foot rub up front. a mamasan type asked if i want body massage and then a young chick steered me into a room at the back. was hard to tell if it was legit or not as the room was full of old medical equipment and cupping pots. anyway the price seemed right (300 hk for an hour) and i was kinda done walking round, plus the girl was cute albeit rather sulky.
kit off, paper trunks on, face down and the massage starts. nice quality back massage then pulled off the trunks and down to the legs for some inner thigh teasing and a bit of "accidental" ball brushing. after 30 minutes she asks me to flip over and starts on my front. after a couple of minutes she points to my dick (now a boner under the towel) and asks "massage here?" with a smile. we horse trade on the price and settle at 150 and i get a good quality hj. tried to feel feel her up as she was wearing a shortish skirt but whilst she seemed cool for me to rub her breasts and ass over her clothes when i tried to get my fingers in her panties she pulled away.
anyway good finish with nice pressure as she kept pumping as i came not stopping the moment i spunked.
would definitely return although i prefer a bustier girl and some visual and tactile stim would have been nice.
i even finally got a smile as i walked out.
tt.
Almost double the price compared to most of the Wan Chai bars. Is the extra worth it?Sorry, not following the thread. I wouldn't know as I didn't take her, but there were 2 or 3 Latinas in Escape that were head and shoulders above what I saw in other bars, and I would pay twice the price.
Mighty Spearsman
06-09-14, 02:42
I haven't see any guys wear a strap on. Think it would be a tight fit.For what it's worth, I remember once watching a porn video on you porn where a guy wore a strap-on that hung below his erect penis, so he could perform a double-penetration act (vaginal / anal) on a lady. Perhaps that's the reference here?
For what it's worth, I remember once watching a porn video on you porn where a guy wore a strap-on that hung below his erect penis, so he could perform a double-penetration act (vaginal / anal) on a lady. Perhaps that's the reference here?To be honest I do not think that is the option Chantik was referring to.
She is well experienced and knows the customer market more than anyone of us and she is also soft and not not graphic in her contributions hre (chapeau!) and what she said, even if unclear to some, could be read or udnerstood only in one way, trust me!
for what it's worth, i remember once watching a porn video on you porn where a guy wore a strap-on that hung below his erect penis, so he could perform a double-penetration act (vaginal / anal) on a lady. perhaps that's the reference here?yeah. that was to which i was alluding. thought possible but not sure but did a slow google search as i was on my way to the airport on friday. looked like someone thought of it already and brought it to market. though, from the descriptions, the fake is on top (pubic bone support) and the bottom can be used with a penis ring.
no offense was meant on my part. always like to probe chantik for a peek inside her world. if she opens the back door a crack for in depth probing, i am most grateful. always value her pov. maybe the next isg reader she meets will bring one for a test drive. lol.
SE Asia Joe
06-15-14, 08:32
The following is something I wrote for another board and am just thinking / hoping it is of some use here. I am by no means fully versed as to what Hong Kong as a mongering destination is all about as I live a mostly Vanilla life when in Hong Kong. But, I do once a while quietly sneak off and errr - "partake!
Like any large metropolis, Hong Kong has different types of mongering activities and even within the particular types of activity, lots of variations.
I'll write in more detail about them if members here so wish, but I'll just make a brief general summary for now:
- Wanchai – around cross-streets Lockhart and Luard road. Area is mostly suited for foreigners not able to speak Chinese (both local expatriates as well as visitors). Filipino, Thai, Vietnamese, some S. American, Ex-soviet State etc. Providers abound. There are also, Domestic helpers part-timing especially week-ends when they have their day-off. Its Kowloon (way-less) counterpart is Hari's bar at the Holiday Golden Mile and the few bars facing the harbor at Tsimshatsui East.
- 141 walk-up girls – one girl one room set-ups offering a quick, economical and quite safe release. These are staffed mostly by permanent Hong Kong Identity card holders as there are raids against visitors illegally working whilst on visitor's visa. Just go to the building, knock on doors housing a 141 gal, politely negotiate or decline and off to the next one until you find what you're looking for. I would recommend this method as your first choice for mongering in Hong Kong – Very easy to accomplish and value for money IMHO. And if you are persistent / patient, you should be able to get a real good deal!!
- Hotel walk-in girls – can be daunting for visitors to get to these girls as you need to navigate via their handlers who mostly do not speak anything but Cantonese, requires a portable phone with a local number and can be a pain etc. Mostly well trained and better looking / younger PRC girls on a 2 week tourist visa, housed in 2-4 star hotels which you need to go to, although sometimes you can negotiate for overnights at your hotel for 3 times their usual rate plus taxi costs.
- Saunas / massage parlors – as there are laws against organized prostitution, sexual services are NOT a given and you need to do a bit of dancing around; some easy to do, some more tedious / costly some just not available. Mostly local MILFs or at best a rather disappointing looking younger provider.
- KTV's – a true shadow of its former glory when all the KTV partying went up to southern China with its cheap prices, great selection and quantity of girls etc. Nowadays, only a few tired over-priced places in Tsimshatsui and Mong Kok, some real dumps in Mongkok that's nothing more than a place to choose / go upstairs with disappointing girls (akin to a BBS type operation) or some small but very expensive places in Causeway Bay for the Hong Kong based Japanese or Koreans.
- Escort services, websites etc. – I'd really like to discourage you from even considering using this means to get your jollies; caters strictly to the meek, time-pressed or lazy visiting monger and thus you can expect only way over-priced and low quality providers. Just go to Wanchai, and I can pretty well guarantee that you will be approached by a number of providers.
- Street walkers – from Hong Kong's lowest priced girls walking about specific parts of Shamshuipo and Mong Kok to the PRC gals doing their walk-about in the open air plaza outside of the Regal and Royal Garden hotel in TST East. You get what you pay for – but as with all street walkers anywhere, I do advise caution, and of course do be careful with your possessions etc.
- Freebie action – whilst of course do-able anywhere, main venues are in Lan Kwai Fong / Soho in Central, Knutsford Terrace in Tsimshatsui. Locals do well in the small clubs and restaurants. Usually upstairs in multi-storied buildings in Causeway Bay and Mongkok.
Useful site to check out selection as well as to glean information from in its forums (English or Chinese).
All above of course strictly IMHO and what I know / think I know. Oooops!
So no brick bats please!
SEAJ
I understand it's not good form to ask a bunch of questions as a first post (or at any time unless you've also contributed a bit of knowledge) so I won't be asking Where, How Much, etc etc and I'll try to add information when I think it can be of use to others, I've asked some friends who live in HK / Shenzhen to help and one of them directed me to this site, so if you will help out with any information it would be greatly appreciated.
I always spend a few days transiting through HK on my way to China, most of the time I don't bother with the bar scene because I have a very cute young China Doll who takes care of all my needs, however 3 weeks ago I was staying in Wan Chai and feeling bored so I thought I'll check the scene out, I had intended to visit a few bars close by, have a few drinks and return back to my hotel unaccompanied.
As we've all experienced just when you think nothing going to happen that's when it does, my first stop was Neptune III, grabbed a seat at the end of the bar away from the band ordered a beer, first up the talent was not to my liking however there was a girl 2 seats down from me, who wouldn't turn around, I decided to do a lap of the bar to see if there was anything else. Nothing of any note, I know walked towards the girl who had her back to me and while meeting eye to eye the best I got was a small smile.
Took a seat back at the end of the bar and quickly a very attractive Chinese girl sat next to me, as quick as a flash she was firing question which hotel you stay, how long you stay in HK, we all know the drill, but frankly I've never like the straight out hard sell, I chat with her for a few minutes and said if she looking for a customer I'm not the one and she quickly disappeared. The girl who had her back to turns around and says that girl never smiles, we both started laughing and it was the perfect ice breaker. I moved closer and offered her a drink, and we continue to chat for maybe 2 hrs apart from be pestered by her rather overweight girlfriend were just enjoying the night.
It was about 1:30 and I'm thoughts of going home alone had changed this girl had me hook line and sinker, I asked would she like to come back with me, she said Yes but I will only go short time with customer, this is opposite to what I like as I like to sleep with some and find the morning session far more rewarding, but as I said she had me and if even of a short time I wanted her.
She ask me to please give her friend some drink money, WTF, but if it meant getting rid of her fine, it was only a very short walk back to my hotel (Wharney) the second we were in the room bang it was like neither of us had fucked in months, no need for details but we fucked until we were both exhausted I could last that long because I had nothing left after being with my China Doll. I know we all like to think we are super stubs and every bar girls can't get enough from us, but this was truly one of those occasions with her.
When we finished I expect her to catch her breath and be out, to my surprise she said I like to sleep now, I could be happier, we woke about 8 am for another unbelievable session, it was just after 10 am when we showered and she told me she doesn't like to leave hotel with the clothes see wore a NEPIII. No problem I wait here I went down stairs as the concierge were the closest shop was and with in 30 min I'm back with a nice little dress for her, she jumped up and down on the bed and if she was anymore than the 45 kg I'm sure she would have broken it. We stayed together all day, shopping for a few things / lunch and then back to the hotel for another session before my flight.
Guy's I'm trying to find this girl, Yes I can hear you all laughing now another punter falling for a bar girl, Yeah maybe true, but I truly would like to find out what's happened to her, if she got a BF that's great and I hope he takes care of her, she gave me her details but for the life of me I don't know where that little piece of paper is.
I got a buddy to call into NEPIII on 3 occasions and see if she was still there bit NO and asking a few of the other girls the all stayed tight lipped.
So if any of you out the have any details of this 22 yrs old Filipino named Ivy (her fat friend Honey) lives in Makati, I believe her when she said this was only the second time she has made the trip to HK, please PM me if you know how I can contact her.
Cheers and happy hunting to all of you.
I promised a report for my second day in HK. I did not go to K-pressure but went back to the massage place at Swatow street. This time for a 2 hour oily massage. After two ours I gave the girl 500 dollars extra for FS.I went to Swatow Street and couldn't find your massage place. Only a Thai MP on the first floor where after entering they threw me out. See my FR on the other HK thread. Was it the Thai place or somewhere else? Any other MP intel?
TT
Navy is in town. This is usually good news for ladies and bad news for guys.
JackTheLad2
06-16-14, 17:08
I got a buddy to call into NEPIII on 3 occasions and see if she was still there bit NO and asking a few of the other girls the all stayed tight lipped.
So if any of you out the have any details of this 22 yrs old Filipino named Ivy (her fat friend Honey) lives in Makati, I believe her when she said this was only the second time she has made the trip to HK, please PM me if you know how I can contact her.
Cheers and happy hunting to all of you.Nice story and as an ex-punter who frequented Neptune 111, I am envious of your luck. Not a lot of guys like Neptune 111 and don't have much good to say about it, but I have always been lucky there. Did you have to pay her or make a small "donation" for her "time"?
As for your girl, what do you think she was there for in the first place? A quiet drink? I doubt it. She is probably more astute than you give her credit for. You (and her) had a great time. Good - and she got a dress, went shopping and a meal out of it as well. Ironically I met a girl called Ivy some time ago in the same place, but I can't remember much about her. You may just have got lucky.
I'm hoping to return later in the year to HK but a domestic illness has kept me from being there just now. Happy hunting and thanks for reminding me of happy memories there.
Nice story and as an ex-punter who frequented Neptune 111, I am envious of your luck. Not a lot of guys like Neptune 111 and don't have much good to say about it, but I have always been lucky there. Did you have to pay her or make a small "donation" for her "time"?
As for your girl, what do you think she was there for in the first place? A quiet drink? I doubt it. She is probably more astute than you give her credit for. You (and her) had a great time. Good - and she got a dress, went shopping and a meal out of it as well. Ironically I met a girl called Ivy some time ago in the same place, but I can't remember much about her. You may just have got lucky.
I'm hoping to return later in the year to HK but a domestic illness has kept me from being there just now. Happy hunting and thanks for reminding me of happy memories there.Jack,
She was there for money not a quiet drink, her request was HK $4000 as I wanted to be with her I agreed HK $3000, she told me her first time to come to HK was in Mar '14 and this was her second, she was young and not yet battle hardened by the business yet, that's what I like about her, what she told me about herself I have no reason to doubt, she didn't ask for anytime more and she yes humble in her thanks for being kind to her.
If by chance you did meet the same girl (Ivy) I'm sure you'd remember her.
Recieved a call from my friend in HK and he may have a lead for me, throwing a few dollars around to working girls, seems to open not only their legs but theirs mouths also. Hope the domestic issue's you are now facing are behind soon and your back into HK & NEPIII soon.
The following is something I wrote for another board and am just thinking / hoping it is of some use here. I am by no means fully versed as to what Hong Kong as a mongering destination is all about as I live a mostly Vanilla life when in Hong Kong. But, I do once a while quietly sneak off and errr - "partake!
Like any large metropolis, Hong Kong has different types of mongering activities and even within the particular types of activity, lots of variations.
I'll write in more detail about them if members here so wish, but I'll just make a brief general summary for
All above of course strictly IMHO and what I know / think I know. Oooops!
So no brick bats please!
SEAJGreat contribution, I linked it to the RoD hoping some class managers will read it too and saves some silly questions in the main forum.
JackTheLad2
06-17-14, 09:43
Jack,
She was there for money not a quiet drink, her request was HK $4000 as I wanted to be with her I agreed HK $3000, working girls, seems to open not only their legs but theirs mouths also. Hope the domestic issue's you are now facing are behind soon and your back into HK & NEPIII soon.Wow!! $4000!
As I said, she was astute right enough! Even Chantik would not have asked for that!
Anyway you had a good time. But don't be taken in. She is a real pro. Could not have been the Ivy I met a while ago as I would not have paid anything near that price.
Hope you find what you are looking for.
JackTheLad2
06-17-14, 09:46
Great contribution, I linked it to the RoD hoping some class managers will read it too and saves some silly questions in the main forum.Totally agree. Might save some questions from those who don't RTTF, but somehow I doubt it.
Recieved a call from my friend in HK and he may have a lead for me, throwing a few dollars around to working girls, seems to open not only their legs but theirs mouths also.
Wow!! $4000!
As I said, she was astute right enough! Even Chantik would not have asked for that!
however 3 weeks ago I was staying in Wan Chai
So if any of you out the have any details of this 22 yrs old Filipino named Ivy (her fat friend Honey) lives in Makati, I believe her when she said this was only the second time she has made the trip to HK, please PM me if you know how I can contact her.First some technical stuff. There have been several similar searches on this thread but never an update on whether there were any successes on the searches and which strategies worked.
To receive or send PM you need to pay Jackson. Jackson will not strike gold like Ivy.
IMHO, throwing money will not get much worthwhile information. Posting a picture here might get better results (another poster tried this). The ladies usually do not use their real names and most are just looking for another way to separate your money from your handsome wallet.
She is most likely gone by now. Posting here might help find her as she might have her sights set on another location or might return to HK.
You did not mention which day she spent with you. Was it a public holiday or Sunday?
FWIW, the last time I was at NIII, there was a lady manager. I find the staff a better and more reliable route to track someone if you do not know the ladies in her hunting pack.
BTW, it is more fun the Philippines. You should try it. Good luck. Let us know what happened.
JackTheLad2
06-17-14, 13:36
First some technical stuff. There have been several similar searches on this thread but never an update on whether there were any successes on the searches and which strategies worked.
FWIW, the last time I was at NIII, there was a lady manager. I find the staff a better and more reliable route to track someone if you do not know the ladies in her hunting pack.
That will be Mamasan Pearla. Quite a girl and good at her work. Likes, and is good at linking up the girls with potential customers who add to the bar takings. Manager Sam is a good guy who, when you get to know him as a regular customer will also look after you. Many a good night spent with him.
Boarer,
There is a couple of things I can confirm, I've paid a subscription so if anyone does have a number or other info they can PM me, also I know its her real name as she showed me her passport, and if I had a photo it's one of the first things I would have posted, also it was a Wednesday evening a pretty quiet night.
My Buddy has spoken to the female mamasan (who I also bought a couple of drinks) and she knows her, but doesn't have any contact details or know when or if she'll return. He was also could find one of the other working girls who knows her friend and said she can get information for me, that's my best lead to-date.
Jackthelad2, your right HK $3000 is probably way above the odds, but as I reported earlier she had me hook, line & sinker, the next day I talked to her about her charge rate, and her answer was this, I'm 22 I not want to go with customer every night, I can make enough with drinks and only go with the customer who pays me, she told me how the whole system works with drinks and kick backs.
While this girl has really touch me (interesting choose of words) I'm not a Newbie, I've lived and worked in Asia for 25 yrs, had my fair share of being taken for a Mug Punter, and have had my heart broken and wallet emptied, all part of life experiences. Whether my chase comes to something or not I'll let whoever's interested know through these pages.
Thanks guy's for the tips, appreciated.
Wow!! $4000!
As I said, she was astute right enough! Even Chantik would not have asked for that!
Anyway you had a good time. But don't be taken in. She is a real pro. Could not have been the Ivy I met a while ago as I would not have paid anything near that price.
Hope you find what you are looking for.Guys are so sweet when they say the girls are not battle hardened. Asking 4000 for short time is ambitious and very battle hardened.
Jack - 4000 is OK for an overnight session organised through the net where you have a guaranteed 12 hrs. This is a similar price to the Velvet Bars. In Saying that I would go for a velvet bar girl every time, then online and finally a bar girl if I was a punter who was happy to pay 4000 for an overnight.
SE Asia Joe
06-17-14, 17:50
Great contribution, I linked it to the RoD hoping some class managers will read it too and saves some silly questions in the main forum.Many thanks. I appreciate your kind words.
SEAJ
Guys are so sweet when they say the girls are not battle hardened. Asking 4000 for short time is ambitious and very battle hardened.
Jack - 4000 is OK for an overnight session organised through the net where you have a guaranteed 12 hrs. This is a similar price to the Velvet Bars. In Saying that I would go for a velvet bar girl every time, then online and finally a bar girl if I was a punter who was happy to pay 4000 for an overnight.Thanks for saying I'm sweet, I agree with you that asking 4000 is ambitious, however asking and getting is also very different, maybe most other punters laugh at her. I really dislike going back and forth over price, our conversation regarding price lasted less than 1 min.
Me: I like you to come back and stay with me.
Ivy: I'd like also.
Me: Will you stay until morning.
Ivy: No, only short time.
Me: How much do you require.
Ivy: HK $4000.
Me: Wow, that's a lot if you only stay a short time, I'll give you HK $3000.
Ivy: OK.
She may have excepted much less, who cares, I pay HK $3000 for a nice dinner and a good bottle of wine so what's the big deal, I notice there are many reports all over this site that focus only on the price they pay, maybe quite a few of you will think I'm stupid well that maybe the case in your eyes, No problem. My point being if I'm happy to pay that amount and I truly had a great experience with this young lady that's all that mattered.
Finally my words about her not being battle hardened, talking with her for several hrs over drinks at NEPIII, and then spending the majority of the next day with her, I think I'm in the best position to say what this girls character is like, if I'm ever able to connect with her again, I'll be able to verify what is told me about herself, until then I take her words as being honest & truthful, she didn't ask me for anything apart from the negotiated price, actually the way things turned out I got a great deal, 3 amazing sessions with her, and just as important her company until 5 pm before I left for the airport.
Chantik, I am just a mere punter if we were to compare life experiences, and I would never profess to know the feelings of girls in the business, but I was able to talk with her for quiet sometime, she 22 and is very very new, people grow up quickly in this line of business and I'm sure if she continues and I meet her in a year so, I'd find a very different attitude.
Let's see what info turns up in the next few weeks on this girl, and maybe you'll all be right in saying "I told you so".
Cheers
There is a couple of things I can confirm, I've paid a subscription so if anyone does have a number or other info they can PM me, also I know its her real name as she showed me her passport, and if I had a photo it's one of the first things I would have posted, also it was a Wednesday evening a pretty quiet night.
My Buddy has spoken to the female mamasan (who I also bought a couple of drinks) and she knows her, but doesn't have any contact details or know when or if she'll return. He was also could find one of the other working girls who knows her friend and said she can get information for me, that's my best lead to-date.
I'm 22 I not want to go with customer every night, I can make enough with drinks and only go with the customer who pays me, she told me how the whole system works with drinks and kick backs.
While this girl has really touch me (interesting choose of words) I'm not a Newbie, I've lived and worked in Asia for 25 yrs, had my fair share of being taken for a Mug Punter, and have had my heart broken and wallet emptied, all part of life experiences. Whether my chase comes to something or not I'll let whoever's interested know through these pages.Since you are as long in the tooth as I am, I will say it. Doh! If you find a gem in this pile of S*T, hold on to it; or at least get contact details. I always maximize my fun while being drained (and having my wallet emptied). Get Whatsapp or something to make it easier for them to contact you. I have the Philippine Smart buddy SIM so flippinas can text me for 1 peso.
Ask your buddy to have the lady manager ask the waitresses while he is there. He might find out where she was staying and get her contact info through that route. (That might lead down many roads that are best explored by another filipinna) If you really want to stalk her and you remember her passport number / name there are ways.
I guess you are looking for another punter who was astute enough to get Ivy's contact details and is willing to trade that for a couple man drinks.
FWIW, they can only make enough on drinks in they are a DH.
Good luck. I might actually head down this week if the Navy is in town and will keep an eye out.
I really dislike going back and forth over price, our conversation regarding price lasted less than 1 min.
who cares, I pay HK $3000 for a nice dinner and a good bottle of wine so what's the big deal
she 22 and is very very new, people grow up quickly in this line of business and I'm sure if she continues and I meet her in a year so, I'd find a very different attitude.FWIW, I have tipped more than that.
I have actually been in your position, several times.
It is a very personal and personalized service business.
Also, sometimes, out of the blue, a lady will come up and ask if I remember so and so. And if I would like to know how she is doing. That why it is sometimes advantageous / disadvantageous to know members of a hunting pack.
The funny thing is that Asia/the world is quite small. I have had only 1 degree of separation from people I met while the ladies show off their photo collection and brag about how nice a guy is.
FWIW, I have tipped more than that.
I have actually been in your position, several times.
It is a very personal and personalized service business.
Also, sometimes, out of the blue, a lady will come up and ask if I remember so and so. And if I would like to know how she is doing. That why it is sometimes advantageous / disadvantageous to know members of a hunting pack.
The funny thing is that Asia/the world is quite small. I have had only 1 degree of separation from people I met while the ladies show off their photo collection and brag about how nice a guy is.Boarer,
Thanks for the replies, I think you can sort of understand where I coming from, while I saw her passport, it was to show me when she'd been to HK etc, I didn't take a note of the number or such detail. I know where she stayed as she pointed it out to me, a couple of hundred metres from NEPIII there is an Indian Restaurant on the corner, many girls stay there, 4 to a room for HK $100 each a night.
Not trying to Stalk her, if I was able contacted her and she wasn't interested, end of story, I use WhatsApp, Viber and WeChat because I'm in China several times a year.
Maybe my next trip to HK I'll PM you and we can exchange war stories over a few cold one's.
Cheers
Brown Rail
06-19-14, 08:23
Boarer,
Thanks for the replies, I think you can sort of understand where I coming from, while I saw her passport, it was to show me when she'd been to HK etc, I didn't take a note of the number or such detail. I know where she stayed as she pointed it out to me, a couple of hundred metres from NEPIII there is an Indian Restaurant on the corner, many girls stay there, 4 to a room for HK $100 each a night.
Not trying to Stalk her, if I was able contacted her and she wasn't interested, end of story, I use WhatsApp, Viber and WeChat because I'm in China several times a year.
Maybe my next trip to HK I'll PM you and we can exchange war stories over a few cold one's.
CheersI am not sure if this was established, but if she was carrying her passport and living in that boarding house, she is probably a tourist. Filipinos usually come for 14 days. Sometimes they can extend by exiting to China or Macao. While they used to be able to do extensions over and over, now they usually can only do it once or twice. So depending on when you met her she may have gone by now. And if a Filipina tourist is in the Wanchai bars there is a 90% probability she has come to HK to make money, though occasionally you meet one there for dancing and fun.
There is quite a good network of sharing information in their community. The prices they charge is what the market will bear. They have only 14 days, or 28 days to make their money, then go home. Only the most amazing hostess can make enough money on drinks alone. Unless you are truly ugly almost all will go with you for a reasonable offer. The going prices for Filipina tourists are HKD500-1500 short time, HKD1,000-3,000 long time. Locals get the lower rates. HKD500-1,500 short or long. Tourists, business men pay higher. And it is true capitalism, what the market will bear. Girls will almost always high ball in the hope that the shy guy will just accept, and many do accept. But they only have 14 days and don't want to lose a paying customer; most will accept HKD1,500 regardless. Some will decline HKD1,000.
The highest I have heard a punter pay is HKD7,000. They were a group of bankers visiting HK. "She was stunning, you would not belive, and amazing fuck, totally worth it". Right. Great for the girl. But even she I am sure had little respect for John. And I am quite confident the next guy got her for HKD2,000, and just as great a fuck.
Morals of the story:
- You don't get what you pay for. Price and quality are hardly correlated. Feel free to pay what you are comfortable paying. Just pick the girl with the look you like and the personality that pleases, then negotiate the deal you like. But remember, personality always wins in the end. Even in short time if she is not pleasing, no matter how beautiful she will be disappointing.
- Your paying over the odds does not really impact what she is going to charge the next guy. One silly banker is not going to move the market. Moreover, their prices for locals is going to stay much less. And personally, I doubt silly punters paying too much impacts the price for the next guy at all. It will always be supply and demand, big picture, and thanks to corruption there is lots of supply.
- if you like a girl, get her contact details. Ideally Whatapp, Viber, WeChat, Skype, not just a local number, which will change. Trying to find them a second time, especially after a few weeks, is difficult. And most love repeat customers, friends, possible BFs, maybe future husbands. It does happen, a lot. In fact, repeat customers often get a much lower price, even free if she thinks you have potential.
I am not sure if this was established, but if she was carrying her passport and living in that boarding house, she is probably a tourist. Filipinos usually come for 14 days. Sometimes they can extend by exiting to China or Macao. While they used to be able to do extensions over and over, now they usually can only do it once or twice. So depending on when you met her she may have gone by now. And if a Filipina tourist is in the Wanchai bars there is a 90% probability she has come to HK to make money, though occasionally you meet one there for dancing and fun.
There is quite a good network of sharing information in their community. The prices they charge is what the market will bear. They have only 14 days, or 28 days to make their money, then go home. Only the most amazing hostess can make enough money on drinks alone. Unless you are truly ugly almost all will go with you for a reasonable offer. The going prices for Filipina tourists are HKD500-1500 short time, HKD1,000-3,000 long time. Locals get the lower rates. HKD500-1,500 short or long. Tourists, business men pay higher. And it is true capitalism, what the market will bear. Girls will almost always high ball in the hope that the shy guy will just accept, and many do accept...BrownRail,
You're 100% correct, her first visit to HK (late Mar) she had a 14 day visa, day 12 she went to Macau for 2 nights and then returned for another 14 days, then back home, she returned to HK in (late April) with another 14 day visa and again on day 12 went to Shenzhen for 1 night and returned with a new 14 day visa, I can only guess that she returned home when it expired.
She told me all this all in general conversation, also many things about her private life which is not important to write here but as previously stated I have no reason to doubt anything she said. She can make between HK $1000 HK $2000 per night from drinks (kick backs from NEPIII) and she will only go with customers for high price (whether that is true who cares) I know situations change very quickly and if she choose to stay in this game, who knows what her thinking will be in a few months. She did tell me of one regular customer who calls her and she goes to his hotel, she said he pays her big money (how much is big money I didn't ask. If someone asked how much I earned I'd tell them to mind their own business) she told me he starts trying control her so she stopped going to his hotel.
Up-Date on getting in contact with her, my friend has called into NEPIII a few times and several Girls and staff there say they all know of her, they all believe she has returned home but nothing firm, however one girl say's she can get in contact with her through a Facebook connection, similar friends, they are going to meet on Sunday as my friend said I think he will get more information in a relaxed place than been a detective in NEPIII, if its a dead end I might leave it there, wait until I'm in HK again and call into NEPIII on the chance she's back, or another punter reads my posts and PM's me her information.
Drink commissions 1000-2000 hr a night. Of course if you do your sums. The ladies get around 50 to 60 on a Margerita type drink and 80 to 90 on a Tango sype drink. So to make 1000 you need to have 15 -20 Marguerita's a night or around 10 Tango type drinks. I know the smart ladies tip the drinks out when the guys aren't looking. This is why you often see staff mopping the floor. But even taking into account the previous that's some serious drinking and even more if you make 2000 in drinks. And at bars like Nep 3 with a strong mamasan lots of the commission go back to the mamasan, especially Filipina's who are first or second time in Hong Kong. I've had acquantainces tell me they made 20,000 a day when the Navy was in town. That's right 20,000 - Take that as you will.
Drink commissions 1000-2000 hr a night. Of course if you do your sums. The ladies get around 50 to 60 on a Margerita type drink and 80 to 90 on a Tango sype drink. So to make 1000 you need to have 15 -20 Marguerita's a night or around 10 Tango type drinks. I know the smart ladies tip the drinks out when the guys aren't looking. This is why you often see staff mopping the floor. But even taking into account the previous that's some serious drinking and even more if you make 2000 in drinks. And at bars like Nep 3 with a strong mamasan lots of the commission go back to the mamasan, especially Filipina's who are first or second time in Hong Kong. I've had acquantainces tell me they made 20,000 a day when the Navy was in town. That's right 20,000 - Take that as you will.Chantik,
As I have said in an earlier post that my knowledge of they way things work in HK is far below yours, the information I was told (Yes, Pillow talk) was the girls at NEPIII mainly drink Tequila shots, price $HK150 and the girl gets a kick back of HK $100, these drinks are pre-poured and sit on the shelf behind the bar, they are heavy diluted, so its not uncommon for a good looking and sweet talking girl to have more than 10 shots / night.
Chantik,
As I have said in an earlier post that my knowledge of they way things work in HK is far below yours, the information I was told (Yes, Pillow talk) was the girls at NEPIII mainly drink Tequila shots, price $HK150 and the girl gets a kick back of HK $100, these drinks are pre-poured and sit on the shelf behind the bar, they are heavy diluted, so its not uncommon for a good looking and sweet talking girl to have more than 10 shots / night.I hope the ladies have booked themselves in for our liver transplant. Having 10+ drinks per night means you are on your way.
OMG! Went to NIII on Friday and every other girl was named Ivy or Honey!
Just kidding. LOL.
my friend has called into NEPIIILooks like you have all your bases covered and can only hope for the best.
That's right 20,000 - Take that as you will.Wow! I love that type of math where 1+1=11!
FWIW, my 2 fens. Based on my observations at several bars, very very very few girls can hit 10 drinks even on a busy night with a stranger. Those I saw who hit a lot of drinks were in a relationship with a punter (and his wallet) and need to start very early. Some of the ladies who know me well actually discourage me from buying them ladies drink and would rather take a small cash donation.
I heard of some punters pressuring ladies to refund drink monies if a lady refuses to go with them. Go figure.
Firstly thank you to Boarer / Chantik / Brownrail & Jackthelad2 for contributing to my first posts, while my sole intention was only to get in contact with Miss I, I also started the debate about haw much girls can earn through drinks, I think we are all correct from what we've been told or know first hand.
Anyway I would like to report I've been successful in contacting Miss I, My friend actually did all the work by visiting NEPIII several times, got a sympatric who was helpful in contacting her network and bingo, This girl is also a very sweet girl who I've also spoken too, once it was established that I wasn't chasing Ivy for the wrong reasons it seems the jungle drums started beating and all the inform I required was available.
Now for Miss I, I've been able to speak with her for several hours over the last 2 days, her intention was not to return to HK, (yes we've all heard that from girls before) she has enough money to start a little business venture and that is what she is concentrating on, I believe her when she said she doesn't like what she did and feels shame.
I'll keep on talking with her over the next few weeks and see if the chemistry is there. I know in several ways I'm breaking every rule in the book by trying to form some type of genuine relationship with this girl, but life works in funny ways.
Thanks again to everyone for coming on this ride with me, cheers and my life be good to all.
Hk Marquis
06-23-14, 10:58
Is someone knows websites where to find compensated dates, from young and naughty girls, like university students or office ladies? Usually, compensated dates are fof Chinese people, but there maybe a couple of chicks targeting Western guys?
Go to seekingarrangement.com - And there are variations of this site. Though this can be more high maintenance.
SE Asia Joe
06-23-14, 18:31
In regards to hotel walk-in gals, as far as I know, most will not agree to go to your hotel room during the day but if they do, it would be at triple the price listed on their DB plus round trip taxi fare. Similar terms for overnight which usually starts only after midnight. (Note, meaning that she'd been hard at work all day already, and you can figure out how tired she must already be by then!
I would discourage guys here from arranging for such arrangement as logic tells us that the girls who would agree to such would usually be the less desirable ones. Because otherwise why wud she want to do something which is so time and energy consuming.
I would also suggest strongly that you should at least first try her at her hotel at the regular price and if there is the right chemistry, to only then arrange for her to come over to your place. Also, please note that most of the girls' pictures on the DB are heavily photoshopped, plus bait and switch is a common tactic. Using good looking girls as bait (because they're usually not available / already has a booking) and substituting another less attractive girl to take up assignments.
Most girls listed on xxxwebsite. Both hotel walk-in as well as 141 walk-ups, caters to the local populace, and thus things are set up to accommodate local guys who do not prefer to have the girls come over / would rather do it in her premises.
This being so, requests for the girl to come over are not preferred by the operators / girls. And thus the high premium levied for such.
Just IMHO.
SEAJ
I'll keep on talking with her over the next few weeks and see if the chemistry is there. I know in several ways I'm breaking every rule in the book by trying to form some type of genuine relationship with this girl, but life works in funny ways.
Thanks again to everyone for coming on this ride with me, cheers and my life be good to all.Mate, good to hear that you were successful and that you posted an update. Thumbs up.
FWIW, airfare between HK and Philippines are cheap. Depending of the nearest airport to her, it is possible to do a day trip. (Think you mentioned Makati) In either case, simplest way is for you to make the trip and have her come to you at a nearby hotel. Easier for her to make a story about staying with a girlfriend. More complicated and more financially risky if you try to have her meet you in HK (assuming you are going to pay for the trip) Quite possible to talk the ladies into making those trips.
FWIW, happened to actually pass a wedding party between a western dude and a filipina woman a couple months back. (Not sure about your ethnicity and country of origin) So it does happen. Question is if it ends happily.
Cheers.
Is someone knows websites where to find compensated dates, from young and naughty girls, like university students or office ladies? Usually, compensated dates are fof Chinese people, but there maybe a couple of chicks targeting Western guys?Have you tried this:
https://www.whatsyourprice.com
Hk Marquis
06-24-14, 16:19
Have you tried this:
https://www.whatsyourprice.comI haven't tried, but I will have a look. I will tell you what I got from there!
I hope the ladies have booked themselves in for our liver transplant. Having 10+ drinks per night means you are on your way.Some girls order low alcohol or no-alcohol drinks.
Mate, good to hear that you were successful and that you posted an update. Thumbs up.
FWIW, airfare between HK and Philippines are cheap. Depending of the nearest airport to her, it is possible to do a day trip. (Think you mentioned Makati) In either case, simplest way is for you to make the trip and have her come to you at a nearby hotel. Easier for her to make a story about staying with a girlfriend. More complicated and more financially risky if you try to have her meet you in HK (assuming you are going to pay for the trip) Quite possible to talk the ladies into making those trips.
FWIW, happened to actually pass a wedding party between a western dude and a filipina woman a couple months back. (Not sure about your ethnicity and country of origin) So it does happen. Question is if it ends happily.
Cheers.Boarer,
Thanks again for the suggestions, as far as my ethnicity, I'm just a regular white guy LOL, I've lived in Asia on and off for the last 20+yrs (Singapore / Tokyo / Bangkok / KL) and visited most other major cities, I have a girl in China who I've kept for the last few years but it's a relationship of convenience, she's a nice girl and we have great sex, that's the total involvement.
I guess I'm looking for something a little more, (Yes, I can hear the laugher again) This 22 yr old was great company, she was so inquisitive about the world and she asked very intelligent questions, it was a dialogue well beyond her years.
Anyway we'll continue commutating and see of the attraction is still there, in a few weeks I'll make the trip across to see her and if the sparks still fly I'll decide what to do after that.
Once again thanks for your contribution.
Cheers
Brown Rail
06-25-14, 09:12
Firstly thank you to Boarer / Chantik / Brownrail & Jackthelad2 for contributing to my first posts, while my sole intention was only to get in contact with Miss I, I also started the debate about haw much girls can earn through drinks, I think we are all correct from what we've been told or know first hand.
Anyway I would like to report I've been successful in contacting Miss I, My friend actually did all the work by visiting NEPIII several times, got a sympatric who was helpful in contacting her network and bingo, This girl is also a very sweet girl who I've also spoken too, once it was established that I wasn't chasing Ivy for the wrong reasons it seems the jungle drums started beating and all the inform I required was available.
Now for Miss I, I've been able to speak with her for several hours over the last 2 days, her intention was not to return to HK, (yes we've all heard that from girls before) she has enough money to start a little business venture and that is what she is concentrating on, I believe her when she said she doesn't like what she did and feels shame...Couple of thoughts:
1) I hope her venture is not a farm; these hardly ever work out. And be careful about funding it, they often fail. If you start funding her venture it is likely to be a black hole for you. Better to let her fail early on her own. Then take an informed look at her other options.
2) As for Miss I, go for it! I don't think you are breaking rules really. Miss I sounds like a normal Filipina on a "working" holiday, not a bar girl. (I think normal SE Asian women have a different, healthier, take on sex than western women anyway, but this is for another post) I can't tell you the number of women I have known in HK / Philippines / Indonesia who met their future husband in Wanchai, Badoo, etc. , built their relationship on skype and then married. Some of my best (girl) friends here have married guys from the US, Australia, NZ, and UK. It does happen and, at the risk of sounding naive, they make great mates!
Brown Rail
06-25-14, 09:20
Hey Brothers,
I am in need of a short term hotel in Western, like Sheungwan or Kennedy town. My good friend has a bit of time free in the afternoons, but she cannot travel all the way to Wanchai, CWB, and back in time. I would like to see her more often then the odd Sunday.
Anyone got a good one?
LongLunches
06-26-14, 07:17
I hope the ladies have booked themselves in for our liver transplant. Having 10+ drinks per night means you are on your way.A friend of mine is a bar girl and I had a sip of a supposedly alcoholic cocktail one night. She offered it to me to show me. There was virtually no alcohol in it at all, hence she won't get drunk LOL.
I didn't mind, she is a friend of mine and needed stay there for an hour or so, I bought her a couple of drinks before she left with me. I know the bar gets a cut, she gets a few dollars, all fine by me.
So, this is how some bypass liver failure LOL.
May vary by bar tho. This was Boracay.
(and no, I don't pay for her company).
Couple of thoughts:
1) I hope her venture is not a farm; these hardly ever work out. And be careful about funding it, they often fail. If you start funding her venture it is likely to be a black hole for you. Better to let her fail early on her own. Then take an informed look at her other options.
2) As for Miss I, go for it! I don't think you are breaking rules really. Miss I sounds like a normal Filipina on a "working" holiday, not a bar girl. (I think normal SE Asian women have a different, healthier, take on sex than western women anyway, but this is for another post) I can't tell you the number of women I have known in HK / Philippines / Indonesia who met their future husband in Wanchai, Badoo, etc. , built their relationship on skype and then married. Some of my best (girl) friends here have married guys from the US, Australia, NZ, and UK. It does happen and, at the risk of sounding naive, they make great mates!Brown Rail,
Her business venture is not a farm, while she was in Hong Kong she did her homework and sourced a few products from suppliers in China, and want to set-up a wholesale distribution business, she a smart girl, young but really has her heart in the right place, at this time I'm only offering her business advice not $$.
As for your notes in point 2, looks like there is hope for me yet ha ha ha.
Cheers
I went to Swatow Street and couldn't find your massage place. Only a Thai MP on the first floor where after entering they threw me out. See my FR on the other HK thread. Was it the Thai place or somewhere else? Any other MP intel?
TTStrange, there is only one MP in Swatow street.
When entering they ask you what kind of massage you like and you enter a small room with a massage table.
After the massage the girl will ask you if you would like to have some extra services.
The first day I received a BBBJ and the second day she climbed on top of me for FS.
A friend of mine is a bar girl and I had a sip of a supposedly alcoholic cocktail one night. She offered it to me to show me. There was virtually no alcohol in it at all, hence she won't get drunk LOL.
I didn't mind, she is a friend of mine and needed stay there for an hour or so, I bought her a couple of drinks before she left with me. I know the bar gets a cut, she gets a few dollars, all fine by me.
So, this is how some bypass liver failure LOL.
May vary by bar tho. This was Boracay.
(and no, I don't pay for her company).The strength of the alcohol is special ladies drinks, varies from bar to bar. But even if watered down a bit if you drinking 1000 or 2000 worth a night it does have an effect. And not all Asian ladies can hold their drinks. And not all ladies have the special ladies drinks.
I have a girl in China who I've kept for the last few years but it's a relationship of convenience, she's a nice girl and we have great sex, that's the total involvementOh you double timing SOB. LOL.
at this time I'm only offering her business advice not $$.
As for your notes in point 2, looks like there is hope for me yet ha ha ha.The news is not good. It is a terminal case. If the big head and the little head are both having a bad case of loving, you are skunked. If you end up tying the noose around your neck, sorry, I meant finger, don't forget to send me an invite.
FWIW, like the Michael Caine character in "Last Love", I know of several punters who have taken the plunge, found happiness, and have rewarded the ladies extravegantly. The problems usually crop up when the money well runs dry.
There are ways to check out a lady beforehand (check the Philippines forum), but I think that takes away from the magic and excitement of the ride. Sometimes it is better to suspect than to have it confirmed.
Best of luck. Cheers.
PS. Wanchai has been rocking these past few days because of the football and Escape's talents and crowds have really picked up. Not sure if this going to continue.
The strength of the alcohol is special ladies drinks, varies from bar to bar. But even if watered down a bit if you drinking 1000 or 2000 worth a night it does have an effect. And not all Asian ladies can hold their drinks. And not all ladies have the special ladies drinks.I would defer to your expertise. Congrats on being a moderator on the other forum.
Some girls order low alcohol or no-alcohol drinks.Hmmm. What drinks might those be?
Oh you double timing SOB. LOL.
The news is not good. It is a terminal case. If the big head and the little head are both having a bad case of loving, you are skunked. If you end up tying the noose around your neck, sorry, I meant finger, don't forget to send me an invite.
FWIW, like the Michael Caine character in "Last Love", I know of several punters who have taken the plunge, found happiness, and have rewarded the ladies extravegantly. The problems usually crop up when the money well runs dry...Actually I have just informed my China Doll that her free ride is coming to an end, not because of my new love (ha ha ha) but it was going nowhere, I told her she needs to find a new man, She was a little shocked but she knew things wouldn't last between us.
Regarding Miss I, I think your right trying to double check everything she has said would "take away from the magic and excitement of the ride" My mother always said "you don't need a good memory if you tell the truth" If she's feeding me a load of crap, I'm sure she'll come unstuck pretty quickly, as of now she has been very forth coming in anything I've asked, and I've asked some difficult and personal questions of her, but only time will tell.
Regarding money she hasn't asked for anything (Yet) without going into all of my long passed, I will relate one story, I once (and there has been a few) helped a girl in Singapore, she was a waitress (very cute, I may add) at a small Thai restaurant near my apartment, I would dine there a least 2 days a week and built up a really great friendship with her, her boss was a drunk and one day she dropped a plate of food, and he hit her right in the middle of the restaurant in front of 15 20 customers, I beat him up fairly badly, and ended up being thrown in Jail (which was not a great experience even if it was only for 48 hrs) My good deed become a problem of me supporting this girl for quiet sometime, anyway after about a 18 mths I find out she was actually married, I've been burnt a few times, and while putting up a few extra barriers I don't want to become an untrusting prick. Just me, I think a lot of readers / subscribers on this site will think I'm crazy, maybe there right but for the most part I'm pretty happy with my craziness. I'll that's enough of "This is your Life" ha ha.
After a long time not being to Escape last Thursday I did pay it a visit. Beer prices have gone up to 75 HKD for a bottle and lots of Columbian girls on duty. Spoke to a 7/10 approx 30 year girl by the name of Catherina and after the usual small talk she asked about my plans for tonight and made the crazy initial offer for long time for 10000 HKD! Go figure, I just walked off laughing my head off. Did finally score with a nice Filipina at Hong Kong Cafe for a fraction of the price of the Columbian girl and got a very GFE service too.
After a busy day thought I would watch a bit of World Cup Soccer last night to watch Brazil and Chile. Dropped into Amazonia which was packed with guys and never seen so many western woman in this bar and so few working ladies. Too crowded so after one drink, went to HK Cafe which was the opposite. Crowd was on the smaller side but lots of working ladies and few guys. And Bar 109 charged $250 entry fee to watch the soccer and if course Delaney's was full.
I was in HK for five days and stayed in the Wanchai area couple of weeks ago.
Visited, Escape, new Makati, HK Cafe and Neptune 2.
Escape and Neptune were very hardcore especially regarding with the drinks, the waitresses constantly pushing for buying drinks and the minute you start talking with a girl they want you to buy a drink, very annoying. Talked to a Colombian that was not allowed to get in Escape unless she was invited by a male so I did so, after talking a while with her she said that she owes about 8000 us dollars to the persons that arranged her visa and flight and that she has been in HK for a week, if she doesn't pay she said these guys can hurt their families, no wonder colombians are very business like in hk. She said that now are so many Colombians that the bar owner of escape only allows in girls that they know to avoid problems with the HK police. I ask her how much to go out ans she said 2000 hk dollars I said and never pay more than 200 us dollars, she said that colombians charge 3000 hk but I said if a go you need to go also per the bar rules as she came with me and I said I offer 200 us. She said Ok but only 1 hour so I said don't like pressure so I left, in addition my own rule is Colombians only in Colombia.
Went then to new Makati but it was very loud, then went to HK cafe which I found to be the best as it had good variety of girls and less pressure for drinks, I met a pretty Indonesian girl (which IMHO are the colombians of Asia) and also initially ask for 2000 HK, I offered 1500 and she want for ST but very nice GFE. Next day I found her again and I offered $1000 HK and she accepted.
One night in Escape I took a Filipino girl for 1000 H K but big mistake as she was ugly once she took off her clothes. Another night didn't take anyone but was doing research and most of the girls start with 2000 HK and depending the night you could negotiate the price down up to 1500, I was offered by a Indonesian girl all night for 1500.
Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.
The worst day to be in Wanchai is Friday as there are more man tha woman, the second worst is Saturday, the best day for semi professionals Sunday afternoon and in general the best days for professionals are Monday and Tuesday.
Also asked one day for an outcall massage to my hotel and the cost with a HJ that included french kissing was 700 HK.
In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun.
LongLunches
06-30-14, 01:57
after talking a while with her she said that she owes about 8000 us dollars to the persons that arranged her visa and flight and that she has been in HK for a week, if she doesn't pay she said these guys can hurt their families, no wonder colombians are very business like in hk.
Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.
In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun.I hear that sort of story a lot. I always sympathize, but always wonder if it is designed to make you pay more LOL.
Not too many African girls about, was this her?
Glad you had fun and thanks for the report.
I hear that sort of story a lot. I always sympathize, but always wonder if it is designed to make you pay more LOL.
Not too many African girls about, was this her?
Glad you had fun and thanks for the report.Not that girl, however I did see her on the street, the girl I talked I very pretty girl from Kenya. I still be.
I've if in Asia go with Asians.
Mighty Spearsman
06-30-14, 07:02
I was in HK for five days and stayed in the Wanchai area couple of weeks ago...
Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she said that Escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an African woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.50%? Seems a little harsh, don't you think?
I've mongered in Africa several times and never got sick, thanks to using condoms and being careful. You're welcome to decide to not have sex with any African women, but please don't throw around a false statistic.
Frank Africa
06-30-14, 07:08
I was in HK for five days and stayed in the Wanchai area couple of weeks ago.
Visited, Escape, new Makati, HK Cafe and Neptune 2.
Escape and Neptune were very hardcore especially regarding with the drinks, the waitresses constantly pushing for buying drinks and the minute you start talking with a girl they want you to buy a drink, very annoying. Talked to a Colombian that was not allowed to get in Escape unless she was invited by a male so I did so, after talking a while with her she said that she owes about 8000 us dollars to the persons that arranged her visa and flight and that she has been in HK for a week, if she doesn't pay she said these guys can hurt their families, no wonder colombians are very business like in hk. She said that now are so many Colombians that the bar owner of escape only allows in girls that they know to avoid problems with the HK police. I ask her how much to go out ans she said 2000 hk dollars I said and never pay more than 200 us dollars, she said that colombians charge 3000 hk but I said if a go you need to go also per the bar rules as she came with me and I said I offer 200 us. She said Ok but only 1 hour so I said don't like pressure so I left, in addition my own rule is Colombians only in Colombia.
Went then to new Makati but it was very loud, then went to HK cafe which I found to be the best as it had good variety of girls and less pressure for drinks, I met a pretty Indonesian girl (which IMHO are the colombians of Asia) and also initially ask for 2000 HK, I offered 1500 and she want for ST but very nice GFE. Next day I found her again and I offered $1000 HK and she accepted.
One night in Escape I took a Filipino girl for 1000 H K but big mistake as she was ugly once she took off her clothes. Another night didn't take anyone but was doing research and most of the girls start with 2000 HK and depending the night you could negotiate the price down up to 1500, I was offered by a Indonesian girl all night for 1500.
Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.
The worst day to be in Wanchai is Friday as there are more man tha woman, the second worst is Saturday, the best day for semi professionals Sunday afternoon and in general the best days for professionals are Monday and Tuesday.
Also asked one day for an outcall massage to my hotel and the cost with a HJ that included french kissing was 700 HK.
In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun.I agree with Mighty Spearsman. No need to make a untrue comment and insult an entire continent!
Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.
In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun."With only 5 per cent of the world's population, Eastern and Southern Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV. Today the region continues to be the epicentre of the HIV / AIDS epidemic, with 48 per cent of the world's new HIV infections among adults, 55 per cent among children, and 48 per cent of AIDS-related deaths."
Dear friends,
Aptly said by senior BionicMan 'Newbies' and further linked by him, on the reports of Distinction, for a newbie like me, the reports were a gold mine! So thanks to that BMan!
Further the breakdown of various options available in HK listed by SEAsiaJoe, thanks there again mate! Excellent or rather should I say Sexcellent. LOL.
RamanHk's point on 141 vs Wan Chai, and also FlyBoy2000 guide on K pressure (not that I admit but let me be honest I do qualify for the dummies guide to K Pressure) LOL.
And a lot of other posts.
To my justification am just excited as these lovely posts have opened a new possibility of mongering for me! Sorry no offense to anybody! Just sharing my excitement!
My trip is going to be somewhere towards the 2nd week of Sep, whilst I am keen on hitting K Pressure, if any one has any suggestions please let me know.
Thank you guys once again!
Regards,
FunkySexy
I don't understand Calvito's post. Colombians only in Columbia. Africans is Africa. Seems very reasonable if you are in HK (Asia) - But why would you go through the process of talking / discussing prices with Colombians / Africans if you have no interest in this group. Maybe I misread the post but it makes no sense.
I don't understand Calvito's post. Colombians only in Columbia. Africans is Africa. Seems very reasonable if you are in HK (Asia) - But why would you go through the process of talking / discussing prices with Colombians / Africans if you have no interest in this group. Maybe I misread the post but it makes no sense.Because I have been with Colombians in Colombia, and their service, price in attitude in Colombia is soo much better than outside Colombia, besides Colombians in HK are being exploited they shouldn't be there.
This is just my opinion after mongering in several places in the world including Colombia, it's not a fact just my opinion, other mongers may think differently and it's ok.
"With only 5 per cent of the world's population, Eastern and Southern Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV. Today the region continues to be the epicentre of the HIV / AIDS epidemic, with 48 per cent of the world's new HIV infections among adults, 55 per cent among children, and 48 per cent of AIDS-related deaths."I'm not insulting Africa but it is a fact that they have the highest incidents of Aids, again for me is no no to get involve with an African woman, but this doesn't mean that the rest of the mongers should not get involved, everyone has different parameters and risks limits, for example there are mongers that still are willing to do vaginal sex without condoms, for me this is an insane not worth it risk, but each with its own limits and risks.
Mighty Spearsman
07-01-14, 03:58
"With only 5 per cent of the world's population, Eastern and Southern Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV. Today the region continues to be the epicentre of the HIV / AIDS epidemic, with 48 per cent of the world's new HIV infections among adults, 55 per cent among children, and 48 per cent of AIDS-related deaths."It's obvious but worth pointing out that Boarer's post that "Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV' (not AIDS, and there is a difference) is quite a bit different than Calvito's comment that "50% of Africa has AIDS".
According to the WHO web site, the number of people in the world who are HIV+ is around 35.3 million. While "half the world's population living with HIV" is not an insignificant number, it's actually a relatively low percentage of the total population of Africa (close to 1 billion), less than 3% of the total population, not 50%.
And one of the remarkable stories about HIV / AIDS during the last 30 years is that it has not become as widespread as the cynics predicted it would be.
Again, you don't have to monger with an African girl in Hong Kong, that's your choice and your right. But please don't reject her on the grounds that she has AIDS, because you may be wrong.
FreebieFan
07-01-14, 04:46
Again, you don't have to monger with an African girl in Hong Kong, that's your choice and your right. But please don't reject her on the grounds that she has AIDS, because you may be wrong.Although if she's from Swaziland you really really might want to think twice.
Johnny Rocket
07-01-14, 06:19
Is someone knows websites where to find compensated dates, from young and naughty girls, like university students or office ladies? Usually, compensated dates are fof Chinese people, but there maybe a couple of chicks targeting Western guys?Yes there is a lot of this type of stuff on local chat sites but you need to type / read Chinese.
Johnny Rocket
07-01-14, 06:21
Hey Brothers,
I am in need of a short term hotel in Western, like Sheungwan or Kennedy town. My good friend has a bit of time free in the afternoons, but she cannot travel all the way to Wanchai, CWB, and back in time. I would like to see her more often then the odd Sunday.
Anyone got a good one?Mingle Place Eden, 148 Wellington Street Sheung Wan. Nice, convenient, cheap.
Johnny Rocket
07-01-14, 06:24
50%? Seems a little harsh, don't you think?
I've mongered in Africa several times and never got sick, thanks to using condoms and being careful. You're welcome to decide to not have sex with any African women, but please don't throw around a false statistic.50% is indeed an exaggeration but there are countries in Africa where 25% of the adult population is HIV+. I am not telling people what they should or shouldn't do but people should make informed decisions.
it's actually a relatively low percentage of the total population of Africa (close to 1 billion), less than 3% of the total population, not 50%.
Again, you don't have to monger with an African girl in Hong Kong, that's your choice and your right. But please don't reject her on the grounds that she has AIDS, because you may be wrong."The Southern Africa sub-region, in particular, experiences the most severe HIV epidemics in the world. Nine countries. Botswana, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Swaziland, Zambia and Zimbabwe. Have adult HIV prevalence rates of over 10 per cent. At an estimated 26.0 per cent, Swaziland has the highest HIV prevalence rate in the world, followed by Botswana (23.4 per cent) and Lesotho (23.3 per cent). With 5. 6 million people living with HIV (17.3 per cent), South Africa is home to the world's largest epidemic. ".
John Traveller
07-01-14, 16:21
After reading this forum I plan two venues to visit in Hong Kong: 37 Dundas and The Fuji-Building.
First I go to 37 Dundas, which is actually just a street address in the Kowloon area. I don't know what the name is. It's a few blocks from the metro station Yau Ma Tei. I arrive at 2 pm and they are busy! Wait 15 minutes, the receptionist tells me. After one hour of waiting and watching tv I think to myself: this is of no use. And so I leave. Pretty disappointing. Is this a KTV-place? Seems so, but reading the reports here I get the impression that you can bed a woman here without too much singing.
I take the metro down to Hong Kong Island, Causeway Bay Station, and walk a few blocks to the Fuji Building at Lockhart Road. Easy to find the entrance. Inside it's just to enter the elevator and choose a floor. But what shall I choose? An elder gentlemen goes to the 6th floor. So I do the same! He knows that the 6th is a good floor, I think to myself. Arriving at the sixth he quickly enters an apartment, and stays there. Yes, he has insider information! I ring the bell at the next door. Maybe I will be lucky at the first try. And yes, I am! A pretty girl with large natural boobs open the door. She holds five fingers up and I enter.
The only word she knows in English is "ok", and the only word I know in Chinese is "nihao", so there you have our conversation! First we shower, she washes me, the usual procedure. In fact everything here follows the usual procedure, nothing less, nothing more. Typical of this kind of ST-place. We lie down on the bed, CBJ, cfs. She's really nice. Both face and body is beautiful so it's a nice experience, even though it's pretty standard. She doesn't do much more than some moaning.
We shower again, I dress, and give her the small present of 500 (condoms included) and leave. Will I return? Yes, if I am in Hong Kong again.
While I am waiting for the elevator a guy rings the bell at "my place", the girl comes out and says something and he goes away, one minute later this is repeated with another guy. Probably she wants to rest a while before the next go. Anyway this shows how busy this building is. Is it something like 15 flooors with 5 apartments in each floor?
As always I flew in to Hong Kong on Saturday night, met up with a friend in the Dog House, finished some beers and went early to bed to be fresh on Sunday morning.
Entered 109 bar around 11 am and the place was already more than rocking. Not too many stunners in there however I spotted one cute looking girl. Which was for sure not more than a seven. However I was attracted by her smile. She was here with some friend and a little bit shy. Funny enough in this place. We chatted, drank, danced etc. Before we decided to leave for Players around 3 pm. Other place. Similar experience as always: Dancefloor full of DHs. We stayed there for a around 1 hrs before I asked her if she wants to go with me to my hotel (nearby Metropark WanChai). She replied: I would like to but no more time left since I need to be back at my employers home. First I was disappointed but decided to make a second attempt and asked by what time. She said: By 6. 30 pm. I looked at my watch and replied: This is in 90 minutes only and we would still have sufficient time- It seemed that her watch was 1 hrs ahead. She smiled at me, grab my hand and said: You are right, let's go. BINGO!
After our session we went back to NeptuneIII to pick-up her friend and said good-bye. Damage: 6 normally priced drinks for her over the course of the day and 2 condoms -.
I love Wan Chai - - not only, but explicititly on Sunday morning / afternoon.
P.S. I used to go to New Makat in the past. Bar tenders always do recall me. However the new set-up with the high DJ pult is scrap.
After reading this forum I plan two venues to visit in Hong Kong: 37 Dundas and The Fuji-Building.
First I go to 37 Dundas, which is actually just a street address in the Kowloon area. I don't know what the name is. It's a few blocks from the metro station Yau Ma Tei. I arrive at 2 pm and they are busy! Wait 15 minutes, the receptionist tells me. After one hour of waiting and watching tv I think to myself: this is of no use. And so I leave. Pretty disappointing. Is this a KTV-place? Seems so, but reading the reports here I get the impression that you can bed a woman here without too much singing.From your description it appears you went there on a Saturday afternoon. Very very slim pickings at that time. The first and the second floor have good reviews on the Chinese forums and I hear you can arrange to book two at one time. I think its about $800 for a 45 minute session for 2.
"The Southern Africa sub-region, in particular, experiences the most severe HIV epidemics in the world. Nine countries. Botswana, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Swaziland, Zambia and Zimbabwe. Have adult HIV prevalence rates of over 10 per cent. At an estimated 26.0 per cent, Swaziland has the highest HIV prevalence rate in the world, followed by Botswana (23.4 per cent) and Lesotho (23.3 per cent). With 5. 6 million people living with HIV (17.3 per cent), South Africa is home to the world's largest epidemic. ".Strange words on the Hong Kong forum. This sounds like a monger with a secret agenda. He wants to prevent other mongers from going with African women so he can have all for himself. Hmmm, you have piqued my interest sir.
This is bit old incident.
I was a frequent at Fuji building (11th Floor).
Girl had a squeaky voice and funny-looking ponytails. She had the suction power of an industrial-strength vacuum cleaner.
Apart from that, the service was as you can expect from HK 141 girls: CBJ and bad acting.
Cost 500 HKD.
Strange words on the Hong Kong forum. This sounds like a monger with a secret agenda. He wants to prevent other mongers from going with African women so he can have all for himself. Hmmm, you have piqued my interest sir.No secret agenda no conspiracy theories, just I comment I made earlier of the working girls that can be found in wan chai and that for me an African girls is a no o for the high incidents of hiv in Africa. Every monger has its own limits on risks, mine are always condom with vaginal sex but not to receiving oral sex, and no to african and Haitian girls but yes to Colombian and Asian, each with its own risks and tastes but no secret agenda.
This is an experience one of my friends had when visiting Hong Kong.
He dialed the DollHouse Massage and asked for a massage girl to his hotel.
The girl came as promised and immediately asked for the money, which he gave.
Then she send some message on her phone to someone.
While she was getting ready for the massage, a call came informing that the person on the other end is from the Hotel Security and that 2 policemen had come to inquire about him and he should come down.
Obviously he panicked and the girl asked him what happened and he informed her that the security had called him.
The girl immediately took her things and ran away.
When my friend went down to check the situation, he found that there was no security staff by the name given to him and there were no police.
It was an elarate scam. First time I have heard about something like this from Hong Kong.
Anyone have any such experience and / or feedback.
Sanity
No secret agenda no conspiracy theories, just I comment I made earlier of the working girls that can be found in wan chai and that for me an African girls is a no o for the high incidents of hiv in Africa. Every monger has its own limits on risks, mine are always condom with vaginal sex but not to receiving oral sex, and no to african and Haitian girls but yes to Colombian and Asian, each with its own risks and tastes but no secret agenda.Actually I was responding directly to Boerer's post. LOL. I have no problem with Calvitp's post.
Hk Marquis
07-06-14, 08:36
Yes there is a lot of this type of stuff on local chat sites but you need to type / read Chinese.Thanks Johnny, but well. My Chinese is a bit too rusty. This is why I also indicated that I was in search of a girl who likes "foreigners". There is of course the craigslist website, where I could meet a couple of naughty girls, but this is not exactly the same.
No secret agenda no conspiracy theories,"Will a condom guarantee I won't get a sexually transmitted disease?
No. Consistent and correct use of the male latex condom reduces the risk of sexually transmitted disease (STD) and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) transmission. However, condom use cannot provide absolute protection against any STD. ".
And this about Russian Roulette. "Two players either take turns spinning and firing the revolver so that each successive turn has an equal probability of failure, or, the players simply take turns without spinning the cylinders until one is shot. Assuming a common 6 round cylinder, the probability of failure after spinning is approximately 1/6th. (This is affected by weight of the bullet, direction spin and angle the gun is held at while spinning the cylinder.)".
Diseases are equal opportunity killers.
This is an experience one of my friends had when visiting Hong Kong.
While she was getting ready for the massage, a call came informing that the person on the other end is from the Hotel Security and that 2 policemen had come to inquire about him and he should come down.Unfortunately your friend is not an avid reader of this forum. Prostitution is legal in HK. He is probably safe as most hotel rooms in most countries are now for double occupancy. So long as both are over the age of consent and there is no evidence of abnormal / illicit activities he is ok. This actually happens world wide and at least it was not a honey trap with higher stakes.
Not too many African girls about, was this her?Think your girl is now hanging outside Amazonia. And, there are a lot of African girls outside on the streets. What was unsettling were the four brothers, two on either end of the street outside Amazonia.
LongLunches
07-06-14, 23:23
Think your girl is now hanging outside Amazonia. And, there are a lot of African girls outside on the streets. What was unsettling were the four brothers, two on either end of the street outside Amazonia.Hmm, interesting if it is her. The girl I know was only a bar girl before. And an irregular one at at that but only at Boracay.
A shame if it really is her and she has taken to soliciting outside Amazonia.
Once again in Dundas 37.
Same routine since decades.
520 HKD incl. Hotel.
3 girls offered, I went for a little chubby one.
Full program in the room, no english (except: Hello, good,.). But good service, nice girl.
What I like here is, that you get what you pay for. Consistently since years.
It is always a good place to have some fun and relief, espec. When I'm on the jump to the airport or staying at a hotel in the area and arriving in the afternoon.
Yes there is a lot of this type of stuff on local chat sites but you need to type / read Chinese.Would you be able to share some of the local chat sites?
Johnny Rocket
07-09-14, 19:29
Once again in Dundas 37.
Same routine since decades.
520 HKD incl. Hotel.
3 girls offered, I went for a little chubby one.
Full program in the room, no english (except: Hello, good,.). But good service, nice girl.
What I like here is, that you get what you pay for. Consistently since years.
It is always a good place to have some fun and relief, espec. When I'm on the jump to the airport or staying at a hotel in the area and arriving in the afternoon.I agree it is an old standby and nice to have, but the quality of the girls and of the service has declined in recent years. There used to be some real enthusiastic cock loving girls there, now you hardly ever get that.
Johnny Rocket
07-09-14, 19:30
Would you be able to share some of the local chat sites?I don't know them well myself. Any of the ones with chat ability or public forums like Yahoo, MSN, QQ, and some of the ones that are local to the mainland, forget their names. Sorry I can't help more but my written Chinese is not up to the standard that I could use those sites.
I've been to Hong Kong a few times recently but my punting experience hasn't really gone beyond K-Pressure. I guess I'm a bit shy to get out amongst it a bit more.
Wandered into KP about 7 pm the night after I arrived and was shown to a room. I have always taken the first girl they present to avoid any awkward conversations etc and it's been.
Fine, but this time it was a mistake. The girl I had was completely zoned out the entire time, and what's worse showed me to a room in the hotel part which was right next to.
Reception, so all the goings on in the foyer could be heard in the room! A bad experience.
This left me not wanting to go back, but I had some free time the day before I left so headed back to give it one more shot.
The mamasan remembered me and asked me if I wanted the same girl. Obviously I said no, and I was left waiting there for about 15 minutes before a girl arrived. Needless to say I was wondering if I'd made an error to go back.
Well, the wait was worth it! In came a bubbly, smiling gorgeous Chinese girl with a lovely chest and delicious figure. I knew instantly the next 45 minutes would be wonderful. I was not disappointed, She completely got into the service and rode me like a champ till completion, and afterwards cuddled with me on the bed until the phone rang indicating time was up.
My faith was restored and I will definitely return next time I am in HK. I hope I can get a bit more adventurous with my punting adventures but we shall see.
Showered, left and then took a ferry back to my hotel, looked at the amazing skyline and thought "Damn, I love this city!
Johnny Rocket
07-13-14, 18:57
I've been to Hong Kong a few times recently but my punting experience hasn't really gone beyond K-Pressure. I guess I'm a bit shy to get out amongst it a bit more.
Wandered into KP about 7 pm the night after I arrived and was shown to a room. I have always taken the first girl they present to avoid any awkward conversations etc and it's been.
Fine, but this time it was a mistake. The girl I had was completely zoned out the entire time, and what's worse showed me to a room in the hotel part which was right next to.
Reception, so all the goings on in the foyer could be heard in the room! A bad experience.
This left me not wanting to go back, but I had some free time the day before I left so headed back to give it one more shot.
The mamasan remembered me and asked me if I wanted the same girl. Obviously I said no, and I was left waiting there for about 15 minutes before a girl arrived. Needless to say I was wondering if I'd made an error to go back.
Well, the wait was worth it! In came a bubbly, smiling gorgeous Chinese girl with a lovely chest and delicious figure. I knew instantly the next 45 minutes would be wonderful. I was not disappointed, She completely got into the service and rode me like a champ till completion, and afterwards cuddled with me on the bed until the phone rang indicating time was up.
My faith was restored and I will definitely return next time I am in HK. I hope I can get a bit more adventurous with my punting adventures but we shall see.
Showered, left and then took a ferry back to my hotel, looked at the amazing skyline and thought "Damn, I love this city!What was the name of the good girl? Do you know if anal was on the menu?
This is bit old incident.
I was a frequent at Fuji building (11th Floor).
Girl had a squeaky voice and funny-looking ponytails. She had the suction power of an industrial-strength vacuum cleaner.
Apart from that, the service was as you can expect from HK 141 girls: CBJ and bad acting.
Cost 500 HKD.From another web site dated Jul 11, 2007:
"xxxxx (xxth fl, Room xx, 450 HKD) had a squeaky voice and funny-looking ponytails. She had the suction power of an industrial-strength vacuum cleaner. Apart from that, the service was as you can expect from HK 141 girls: No kissing, CBJ and bad acting."
I was alerted to this by another member on the ISG Sri Lanka forum (where I am unfortunately located at the moment - not the forum but the place LOL).
Cheers.
The 141 building that I was heading to in Jordan at lunchtime had surprisingly not 'opened' yet, so I headed to K-Pressure for the first time instead. Similar to 37 Dundas, which I went to once around three years ago.
I went in, was sit down in the small dark waiting room (don't watch TV, harder to adjust your eyes to the girl when she walks in). Was told by the mamasan that I had one minute to assess the girl, then tell her if she was acceptable or not, and no problem to bring another one if necessary. The first girl was awful, the second not much better, the third was short and a bit chubby but friendly, and considering that I was on a lunchbreak and didn't have all afternoon to choose I took her. She turned out to be a good choice. Service was a shower, soapy body rub, blow job, refused an arse licking, and sex. 390 paid to the mamasan and 120 to the hotel upstairs.
Nice touch was that the mamasan asked me when leaving if the service had been OK.
Obviously not an apples to apples comparison, but pros and cons of this option vs. 141 walk-ups in my humble opinion:
Price: I find the $300 141 girls totally unattractive, but not a lot of difference between the $400 and $500 ones. So by going to the $400 ones you can save $100 compared to K-Pressure.
Selection: K-Pressure is one operator while there are thousands of 141 girls around the populated areas of Hong Kong. K-Pressure gives you a minute to chat to the girl before choosing, 141 you've pretty much got 5 seconds in the doorway before walking in or walking away. At K-Pressure I presume there might not be any girls available at busy times.
Quality: 141 as a result of having thousands to choose from, although might depend on what area you go to. Only saw three girls at K-Pressure but none of them were beauties.
Attitude: I've never failed with a 141 girl yet, although that might be because I speak Mandarin and they know I live in Hong Kong, so they know I might be a repeat customer. The girl I had at K-Pressure today was nice and the fact that the mamasan cares suggests that that would be the norm.
Freshness: I always go at lunchtime, when I am probably the girl's first customer of the day. At either option you are likely to be the the 3rd or 4th or 5th customer if you go in the evening. My one evening 141 experience was much more mechanical and much more lube used. An interesting comment from my K-Pressure girl today was that their hours are flexible, so if going mid-afternoon I guess you might still strike someone starting a shift but you've got no way to ascertain this.
Service: Both are pretty much arrive - Shower - quick blowjob - quick fuck - shower - leave, except at K-Pressure there is a soapy body massage added in and it seems they will lick you arse if you are into that. Around 45 min in-and-out time for both options.
Verdict I will stick with 141 walk ups since I can find a hotter girl by knocking on a couple of doors. Plus I don't fancy a girl who has licked another guy's arse in recent history. Nice to have K-Pressure there though in case of another lunchtime walkup fail.
P.S. My one frustration about Hong Kong is that there are no oily hand job options available for around $200. If you go to a Thai massage place I believe the minimum you will be paying will still be $500. In the good old days in Shanghai a few years ago sex in a BBS was 300-400 but you had the option of a hand job for 50-100 (with her top off and fondling allowed), which was always nice as an option. Why is it that the locals here only want a shag and there are no halfway options? Sometimes a long oily HJ can be just as relaxing if not more so.
JayCar2014
07-23-14, 12:41
A condom for the safety conscious.
http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/condom-that-fights-sexually-transmitted-diseases-114072300884_1.html
A condom for the safety conscious.
http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/condom-that-fights-sexually-transmitted-diseases-114072300884_1.htmlDefinitely a good idea. Maybe even one in high-infection-rate countries that should be utilized without regard for IP protection. Slippery slope there though. Potential drawback, the 0. 1% of viruses/germs it doesn't kill outright could become more virulent. Then again, I'm not an epidemiologist.
Yesterday I went for hotel walking in are* hotel in TST. Girl was 492. She has nice height, good figure. Boobs size was D. On bed BBBJ, catbath and sex was as as usual. She sucked my balls for very long time, which turn me on. Now the extra-ordinary thing: after I finished, I still had 10 min in left. She massaged my whole body. Though the massage is not like professional one, but never experienced massage from any hotel walking girl before.
Chan James
07-25-14, 21:02
Tonight I just have a bad experience by taking a Columbian girl she make me have a feeling of "drop money".
I take the girl named "Sophia" at Jeffrey Road and she has a wonderful body about 170 tall. I talked to her and ask for go somewhere, she agreed with me and asked for $2000 for short term. Then I reply for long term (2 hours) and she agreed with $2500.
Then we go to an hourly hotel and I buy for a 2-hour room. She asked me to pay money first. I paid $2500 and confirmed with 2 hours. We take a bath very quick and go to the bed, but she action so fast and seems want to make me shot as quick as possible. After we do the 1st time, she said need to go. I didn't want to agrued with her any more and she made me have no mood.
I just write this to make a warning to all bros that there are so many cheater in Wan Chai. And be careful of this girl named "Sophia".
I taked a photo of her but just taked the back.
Tonight I just have a bad experience by taking a Columbian girl she make me have a feeling of "drop money".
I take the girl named "Sophia" at Jeffrey Road and she has a wonderful body about 170 tall. I talked to her and ask for go somewhere, she agreed with me and asked for $2000 for short term. Then I reply for long term (2 hours) and she agreed with $2500.
Then we go to an hourly hotel and I buy for a 2-hour room. She asked me to pay money first. I paid $2500 and confirmed with 2 hours. We take a bath very quick and go to the bed, but she action so fast and seems want to make me shot as quick as possible. After we do the 1st time, she said need to go. I didn't want to agrued with her any more and she made me have no mood.
I just write this to make a warning to all bros that there are so many cheater in Wan Chai. And be careful of this girl named "Sophia".
I taked a photo of her but just taked the back.There is always this risk if you pay her first! Insist on paying after the deed!
JackTheLad2
07-26-14, 08:59
Tonight I just have a bad experience by taking a Columbian girl she make me have a feeling of "drop money".
she agreed with me and asked for $2000 for short term. Then I reply for long term (2 hours) and she agreed with $2500.
Wow!
Short time (1 hour?) = $2000.
Long time (2 hours) = $2500.
2 hours is not quite my definition of "long time". Or am I wrong and out of date?
Columbian or not, you paid over the odds.
If this is the new "norm", not looking forward for my next visit in November!
Wow!
Short time (1 hour?) = $2000.
Long time (2 hours) = $2500.
2 hours is not quite my definition of "long time". Or am I wrong and out of date?
Columbian or not, you paid over the odds.
If this is the new "norm", not looking forward for my next visit in November!Definitely not the norm. Unfortunately he got taken for a "ride" and lost out.
I think you'll find that this common. Guys don't always want to post that they got cheated! It's so common.
She asked me to pay money first. I paid $2500 and confirmed with 2 hours. Wasn't that a big "stop" sign when asked to pay upfront?
IMHO, of course!
Mmlouie.
Wasn't that a big "stop" sign when asked to pay upfront?
IMHO, of course!
Mmlouie.It's common for bar ladies to ask for money up-front. One can never be sure but there are some nationalities in which you never agree to pay money up-front.
Tonight I just have a bad experience by taking a Columbian girl she make me have a feeling of "drop money".
I take the girl named "Sophia" at Jeffrey Road and she has a wonderful body about 170 tall. I talked to her and ask for go somewhere, she agreed with me and asked for $2000 for short term. Then I reply for long term (2 hours) and she agreed with $2500.
Then we go to an hourly hotel and I buy for a 2-hour room. She asked me to pay money first. I paid $2500 and confirmed with 2 hours. We take a bath very quick and go to the bed, but she action so fast and seems want to make me shot as quick as possible. After we do the 1st time, she said need to go. I didn't want to agrued with her any more and she made me have no mood.
I just write this to make a warning to all bros that there are so many cheater in Wan Chai. And be careful of this girl named "Sophia".
I taked a photo of her but just taked the back.ChanJames.
I believe that you are Chinese looking. Well it seems that these girls are often sceptical of one with Chinese looking incase we are HK Police. I have had similar problems. I have not had much experience with the bar girls as most of the time I stay on Kowloon side and hard to get across and back. But that has been the case with what I have been told.
Thanks Mianbao, that's a good suggestion! Common sense that's uncommon. LOL ha!
But I will remember this, as I plan to visit K Pressure for the first time this September when I will be visiting HK.
Also thank you for summing up the difference, but based on what I am reading on the forum and in general I would think that for a foreigner (I am not a local or Chinese) wouldn't K Pressure be a guaranteed service of satisfaction as compared with a 141 walk up? Any inputs form seniors would be appreciated.
Cheers,
FunkySexy
I went in, was sit down in the small dark waiting room (don't watch TV, harder to adjust your eyes to the girl when she walks in).
ChanJames.
I believe that you are Chinese looking. Well it seems that these girls are often sceptical of one with Chinese looking incase we are HK Police. I have had similar problems. I have not had much experience with the bar girls as most of the time I stay on Kowloon side and hard to get across and back. But that has been the case with what I have been told.Yes. Bar girls are suspicious that HK men may be undercover police. But if a girl wants to cheat it is more likely to be a tourist / business traveller.
I tried this one a couple of weeks ago. They advertise on CL and also have a web site that promises all sorts of wonderful tantric things. Being sceptical, I wanted to see for myself, so I made an appointment and turned up at their tiny premises in TST. There were two girls on duty and I didn't get to choose, but that was fine; the girl I got was slim and cute and spoke workable English.
I asked for the "tantric" massage, advertised at $1000/60 minutes. This is expensive by the standards of HK rub-and-tug parlours, and I know of places around MK / Prince Edward where you can get a 90 minute massage plus happy ending for only just over $500 - although usually from a rather older, or fatter girl.
The girl stripped to her underwear immediately and commenced the massage. Oil, straight away. No farting around with towels and pretending to do a serious massage. A bit later she popped her bra off and did body-to-body, which was good too.
There was a certain amount of up-selling. At about the 45 minute mark she asked: did I want to extend? No, I said. So she had me flip over for the final act. At this point she asked if I had a tip for her! She claimed that most clients tipped $100 or $200 for HE. Well *sure* they do in MK, when the massage is only $248! But when it's already $1000 and the web site explicitly states this is the price for "tantric" service, I think that's a bit of a cheek, frankly. So I said no, and, to give her dues, she carried on regardless.
She allowed roaming hands everywhere except inside the panties, and she did a fair HE, although it wasn't the "prolonged process of awakening the bodily's sensory reactions rather than hurriedly moving to achieve certain destination" advertised on the web site. It was a standard and brisk wank, carried out in a workmanlike manner. There was no suggestion that a BJ or FS might be available, but who knows. Had I whipped the wallet out...?
Then I was left to shower, and asked again if I might care to tip. Still no.
In summary: not bad, but not great. Too expensive at the basic price, and the request for tips was ludicrous. Don't bother with this one, unless you're feeling wealthy.
Johnny Rocket
08-02-14, 20:03
I tried this one a couple of weeks ago. They advertise on CL and also have a web site that promises all sorts of wonderful tantric things. Being sceptical, I wanted to see for myself, so I made an appointment and turned up at their tiny premises in TST. There were two girls on duty and I didn't get to choose, but that was fine; the girl I got was slim and cute and spoke workable English.
I asked for the "tantric" massage, advertised at $1000/60 minutes. This is expensive by the standards of HK rub-and-tug parlours, and I know of places around MK / Prince Edward where you can get a 90 minute massage plus happy ending for only just over $500 - although usually from a rather older, or fatter girl.
The girl stripped to her underwear immediately and commenced the massage. Oil, straight away. No farting around with towels and pretending to do a serious massage. A bit later she popped her bra off and did body-to-body, which was good too.
There was a certain amount of up-selling. At about the 45 minute mark she asked: did I want to extend? No, I said. So she had me flip over for the final act. At this point she asked if I had a tip for her! She claimed that most clients tipped $100 or $200 for HE. Well *sure* they do in MK, when the massage is only $248! But when it's already $1000 and the web site explicitly states this is the price for "tantric" service, I think that's a bit of a cheek, frankly. So I said no, and, to give her dues, she carried on regardless.
She allowed roaming hands everywhere except inside the panties, and she did a fair HE, although it wasn't the "prolonged process of awakening the bodily's sensory reactions rather than hurriedly moving to achieve certain destination" advertised on the web site. It was a standard and brisk wank, carried out in a workmanlike manner. There was no suggestion that a BJ or FS might be available, but who knows. Had I whipped the wallet out...?
Then I was left to shower, and asked again if I might care to tip. Still no.
In summary: not bad, but not great. Too expensive at the basic price, and the request for tips was ludicrous. Don't bother with this one, unless you're feeling wealthy.Anyone who believes what is written on the CL ads is a sucker. There are a few honest ones like Chantik's, all the rest are BS designed to pull in the inexperienced and easily swindled. It is also for the purpose of avoiding actually advertising prostitution on CL by calling it "tantric massage. ".
Standard stuff.
Tantric massage is lots of deep breathing, lots of feeling an touching without necessarily a massage or naughty service.
It's a sexy sounding name.
It's common for bar ladies to ask for money up-front. One can never be sure but there are some nationalities in which you never agree to pay money up-front.Which ones should we watch out for? I was once REALLY tempted by a Filipinna SYT but my buddies straightened me out.
But if a girl wants to cheat it is more likely to be a tourist / business traveller.Actually, everyone local and not just Bar Girls. LOL.
Think someone was asking about the local swinging clubs a while back. The person should take a look at today's SCMP for an article on the subject. I suspect this was the group that was raided recently as part of a bigger crack down. There are informal expat scenes that are probably safer. IMHO.
The difference is that the local swingers clubs / scenes often operate on a membership basis so someone is making money. The expat swinging scene is more like organise a party at a 5 star hotel / villa and all the guests donate to cover the costs of the room.
Which ones should we watch out for? I was once REALLY tempted by a Filipinna SYT but my buddies straightened me out.
Actually, everyone local and not just Bar Girls. LOL.Think you can guess the nationality. And it's not the ones who are close to HK.
Good day,
Very sorry to bother you all. I am planning a trip to Hong Kong and was doing a little research. Have a good idea of where to go what to do. Early in my research I came across a website where the lady isn't only an escort, but will act as a guide for the day. Now I can't seem to find the website. Does anyone know anything about this service? I am not just traveling for the ptp or bar girls, I really would like to experience a locals view of the city, not the tourists. Thank you in advance for your time in reading and responding.
PK
Whether the lady is a guide / escort she will charge for her time.
I dropped into Makati late yesterday evening. A sum of 28 people which was boosted by a girl who took out 6 ladies from a Curtain Bar. Makati has become very quiet. And joe Bananas re-opened last week.
Uncle Junior
08-08-14, 07:22
Whether the lady is a guide / escort she will charge for her time.I think the original OP has an interesting post.
I am often in Hong Kong or China and have a whole day off. Having a syt to show me the city and play tourist companion is definitely something I would pay for and then if she wanted to be my companion in the evening or arrange evening companionship with a quality women or bar with availabl women, is definitely a service I would appreciate.
Any thoughts on this from Chantik or others?
Visiting HK for 2-3 days. Any guide / tips for me?
Thanks
I dropped into Makati late yesterday evening. A sum of 28 people which was boosted by a girl who took out 6 ladies from a Curtain Bar. Makati has become very quiet. And joe Bananas re-opened last week.Of course I would pay for my companion's time, that goes without saying. I came across a website that I can't find anymore and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. Heck Chantik, I would consider your 12 hr rate reasonable for the day.
PK.
JackTheLad2
08-12-14, 16:46
Visiting HK for 2-3 days. Any guide / tips for me?
ThanksPleased to help. Just read back a few pages and you will find your questions are answered.
In other words, RTFF.
Pleased to help. Just read back a few pages and you will find your questions are answered.
In other words, RTFF.Thanks for your help. Actually I was going through all the reports and I am kinda lost.
Tips:
1) Bring an umbrella, its been raining lately.
2) Bring your Vitamin C since there's a flu going around.
Some specifics on what you are looking for? Generic questions generally yield generic answers.
Visiting HK for 2-3 days. Any guide / tips for me?
Thanks
JackTheLad2
08-13-14, 08:49
tips:
1) bring an umbrella, its been raining lately.
2) bring your vitamin c since there's a flu going around.
Some specifics on what you are looking for? Generic questions generally yield generic answers.lol! Lol! Lol!
Tips:
1) Bring an umbrella, its been raining lately.
2) Bring your Vitamin C since there's a flu going around.
Some specifics on what you are looking for? Generic questions generally yield generic answers.Thanks for your tips.
As I will be staying for 2-3 days, is good idea take rooms / apartment via airbnb or hotel is good. Staying near which place will be good to pick up girls.
Note. I don't drink, so bar is a bad idea for me.
Any inputs will be useful.
Thanks
Of course I would pay for my companion's time, that goes without saying. I came across a website that I can't find anymore and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. Heck Chantik, I would consider your 12 hr rate reasonable for the day.
PK.I do overnight bookings, but too busy for 24 hr bookings.
Well you know how to find me.
What's missing from your reply is your budget. Where to stay? I will leave that in your good hands. Girls, well there's a budget to suit all tastes. The Temple street walkers girls I read in the forums cost about $200 a pop. Then there's the yellow sign places in Mongkok, maybe $400 or so. Then there's Dundas St. There's K-Pressure. Both about 550 all inclusive. The girls in the hotel bars like Hari's or some of the ones in TST East. There's also the Indian hags in their sarees Mirador Mansion side, there some Africans around there too. There are the China masseuses in TST East who will bump into you in the street. Then there are the yummy HK chicks in the nightclubs in TST East. Those are more expensive nights. Maybe 1,500 for the service and another 1,500 for the drinks, fruit, girls time fee in the club. The girls in the hotels might speak English. The balance here generally do not.
Or you could head over to Wanchai where most people speak English. If on a budget, go to QV or Old China Hand next door and see where your luck or fancy takes you. There's a myriad of other bars, all written about over here. Just because its a bar doesn't mean you have to drink alcohol. If you're here on a Sunday, its like a buffet in Wanchai. Enjoy. A fantastic resource of Wanchai is to look at all the forum posts of Jackthelad2. There's fantastic reading everytime he comes to town. He is a prolific writer. Very descriptive, and most importantly he has a back up plan for when his hunts yield no results.
I've given you lots of choices here. Use the search function or even google. Just make sure you use Google Hong Kong. There's also the 141 girls. You can google "one floor one" for information.
Have fun and stay safe and get laid!
Thanks for your tips.
As I will be staying for 2-3 days, is good idea take rooms / apartment via airbnb or hotel is good. Staying near which place will be good to pick up girls.
Note. I don't drink, so bar is a bad idea for me.
Any inputs will be useful.
Thanks
JackTheLad2
08-15-14, 16:33
A fantastic resource of Wanchai is to look at all the forum posts of Jackthelad2. There's fantastic reading everytime he comes to town. He is a prolific writer. Very descriptive, and most importantly he has a back up plan for when his hunts yield no results.
Have fun and stay safe and get laid!You are too kind!! Did not realise I was so widely read!! Maybe I should have been a research writer in my working life!!
Anyway, I have already made arrangements to return to HK on 6th November. A family illness has prevented me from returning earlier.
Looking forward to resurrecting my mongering career and of course will report my findings, Can't wait! The good thing is that during my absence I have maintained my "contact" list should I need to fall back to "regulars".
Read recently that New Makati was quiet and not what it used to be. One of my favourite haunts. I'm sure there will be plenty other options. Watch this space.
Note. I don't drink, so bar is a bad idea for me.IMHO, they don't care if you drink so long as you buy drinks. Know some guys and many girls that do not drink or smoke who frequent the bars.
Of course I would pay for my companion's time, that goes without saying. I came across a website that I can't find anymore and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. Heck Chantik, I would consider your 12 hr rate reasonable for the day.
I am often in Hong Kong or China and have a whole day off. Having a syt to show me the city and play tourist companion is definitely something I would pay for and then if she wanted to be my companion in the evening or arrange evening companionship with a quality women or bar with availabl women, is definitely a service I would appreciate.
Any thoughts on this from Chantik or others?PK, IMHO, not a good idea to start negotiating in an open forum. I have known several ladies who have done the tour thing. In several cases, the punter did not pay the full agreed price or had ADHD and needed an energizer bunny, which the ladies are not. When you find one, it is great but I would suggest separating the two jobs. Somebody else wrote about success on the social networking sites to meet girls on their day off. Only a pro or a local girl or a DH between jobs can do 24 hours. If you like a girl, you can also fly her in or arrange to be in town at the same time.
Think many DH would love to tour with you but most need to be home at a certain time. They can meet you again early the next morning to give you a wake up call if it is during the holiday season and their employers are away or she does not live with her employers. Summer is a great time. Just my 2 cents.
Will add that most of the ladies whether pro or DH have seen the sites of Hong Kong. Only so many times you can visit The Peak, Disneyland, Ocean park, Big Buddha, Lamtau cab le cars etc.
Johnny Rocket
08-16-14, 21:05
I know I've spent too much time on ISG when my iPhone autocorrected to "DATY. ".
Have been doing early evenings so can't really give too many comments on bars. Last time I was in Makati was around 8:30 pm. There was a male visitor being entertained by 2 visiting Filipinas. And another 2 Indonesian girls walked in. I was surprised at the happy hour price of Carlsberg pints at $38. A couple of months prior about 11 pm, I met a really gorgeous young lady. From the Visayas area, a mestiza, Spanish blood. Young, dressed to the nines. Looked like first tour overseas. Tried to pull her, but looked like she was waiting for someone else. Didn't feel too bad because had the feeling it would be a starfish experience. Even on that day, the place was like 80% empty. Maybe its a hit or miss situation like you reported way back about Boracay.
Had a meeting with a client at Dusk Till Dawn. Seems they have a 2 piece accoustic singers starting at 8 pm. Seems more places have some type of music early on. Boracay, got there slightly past 9 pm. Their band now starts at 9. Seems a lot of places start the music early.
Joe Bananas has reopened and the place looks nice. The new manager here was the old manager, Renu at Spicy Fingers. Renu saved me about 10 years ago. I was rolling around Wanchai deeply inebriated at 3 am or so. This Thai woman latched herself on me and refused to let go. Insisted that she come with me. Finally I told her, my girlfriend works at Spicy Fingers, and you better go. She refused to listen. Well we got to Spicy, I told Renu that the Thai woman was bothering me. Well I have never seen a Thai woman run so fast in my life. Of course the whole bar staff were laughing their heads off.
Next to Dusk Till Dawn in the basement is Rio. They have accoustic music starting early. No ladies drinks here at that time, so like a regular bar. But at about 10 pm, you can see some ladies. Two groups of ladies came in. Both groups dressed nicely. The two on the right were nice looking. The group on the left, well for all three, the sides of their faces looked very masculine to me. I hear the cute girls are there to help and accompany the customers to drink bottles of champagne.
Its a Sunday today. Wanchai should be a great ball of fun.
Read recently that New Makati was quiet and not what it used to be. One of my favourite haunts. I'm sure there will be plenty other options. Watch this space.
Navy is in town. Must be a big ship.
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Its a Sunday today. Wanchai should be a great ball of fun.What places are good on Sunday night? Beside New Makati.
Navy is in town. Must be a big ship.OH. Ok! That explains the come hither looks I was getting....
from a group of young filipinas; a rarity in HK nowadays. LOL.
JackTheLad2
08-21-14, 09:54
What places are good on Sunday night? Beside New Makati.Time you made a report my friend.
Looked at your last dozen or so posts. All questions.
We do try to help but only to those who try themselves.
Uncle Goober2
08-22-14, 01:52
Navy is in town. Must be a big ship.Word is that it is 3,000 from 4 ships.
Marines.
Time you made a report my friend.
Looked at your last dozen or so posts. All questions.
We do try to help but only to those who try themselves.Fair point, apologies. Always thought I was a lurker, didn't realize I was actually a leacher. I do a lot of preparation, and rarely end up doing anything worth reporting.
But point taken, will report next week.
Word is that it is 3,000 from 4 ships.
Marines.3 warships, according to http://www.mardep.gov.hk/en/pub_services/vlinport.html.
Up to 4 k people.
USS Makin Island typical crew 1 k + 1. 5 k marines.
USS San Diego crew max 800.
USS Comstock crew 800.
Time you made a report my friend.
Looked at your last dozen or so posts. All questions.
We do try to help but only to those who try themselves.
Fair point, apologies. Always thought I was a lurker, didn't realize I was actually a leacher. I do a lot of preparation, and rarely end up doing anything worth reporting.
But point taken, will report next week.
3 warships, according to http://www.mardep.gov.hk/en/pub_services/vlinport.html.
Up to 4 k people.
USS Makin Island typical crew 1 k + 1. 5 k marines.
USS San Diego crew max 800.
USS Comstock crew 800.Dude, not sure if you got JTL's point. Read his posts. FYI, most posters in this section actually do not welcome the the ships overcrowding and soiling their little sandbox. (Like the 7's) Luckily, parts of HK are not yet on our Northern neighbor's shopping trip agenda.
You will find part of what you are looking for in posts #8533 and #8504. #3246 might also be of interest. Follow the posts and you will find what you want.
... FYI, most posters in this section actually do not welcome the the ships overcrowding and soiling their little sandbox...Yes, I would be way more interested in a link to show when they leave.
They are still in Wanchai tonight making lots of noise. Unusually the boys haven't been out till late afternoon. At least its quiet at lunchtime. The ships usually stay 4 to 5 days. So that means the streets will still be busy on Saturday and maybe Sunday. They'll definitely be gone by Monday.
They are still in Wanchai tonight making lots of noise. Unusually the boys haven't been out till late afternoon. At least its quiet at lunchtime. The ships usually stay 4 to 5 days. So that means the streets will still be busy on Saturday and maybe Sunday. They'll definitely be gone by Monday.Saw the ships leaving through the Lamma channel this morning (Saturday) :-)
Yes, I would be way more interested in a link to show when they leave.
They are still in Wanchai tonight making lots of noise. Unusually the boys haven't been out till late afternoon. At least its quiet at lunchtime. The ships usually stay 4 to 5 days. So that means the streets will still be busy on Saturday and maybe Sunday. They'll definitely be gone by Monday.Chantik. I am sorry to say. As you read these lines, courses to HK are being plotted and entered. ;-D I will be heading down to Wanchai tonight and later on next week. LOL.
Saw the ships leaving through the Lamma channel this morning (Saturday) :-)Thank god a quiet weekend then. Wanchai was back to normal this afternoon.
Good luck for the guys and bad luck for the ladies. I don't think I've ever gone with a Navy guy. Three days is a short visit but guess there will be many happy people in HK.
JackTheLad2
08-23-14, 18:34
Three days is a short visit but guess there will be many happy people in HK.And may happy people now sailing the high seas!
The good news: only 16% of new cases came from heterosexual sex. The article does not specify how those people contracted the disease.
From SCMP:
Tuesday, 26 August, 2014,3:23 pm.
'Alarming' increase, driven by growing number of cases involving gay men and young people, prompts calls for improved sex education.
The number of new HIV cases recorded in the city is set to hit a record high for the fourth year running and may pass 600 for the first time, a government consultant says.
Some 304 new cases were diagnosed in the first half of the year, Dr Wong Ka-hing said, well up on the 262 new cases reported in the same period last year. There were 559 new HIV cases in the whole of last year.
The figures, and the fact many young people were among those affected, have raised concerns that the message on the importance of safe sex is not getting through.
Wong, a Health Department consultant, said that gay men made up the biggest group of new patients, in line with international trends.
"It is worrying. It is likely that the annual figure will surge past 600, which will be the highest figure in Hong Kong history," Wong said yesterday.
Of the 150 new cases reported between April and June, more than 80 per cent were men, of whom more than half had had sex with other men. Some 16 per cent of cases involved heterosexual sex, while 2. 7 per cent were contracted through injections. More than a quarter had an undetermined cause.
A department survey last year found that only 70 per cent of gay men wore a condom during sex, compared to 90 per cent for female sex workers, another high-risk group.
"The trend for HIV to infect men who have sex with men has increased significantly in recent years, while the figure for the heterosexual group remains stable," Wong said.
Last year's figure of 559 was a nine per cent increase on the 513 cases in 2012.
The new cases this year bring the total number reported since records of HIV cases began in 1984 to 6,646.
Two Aids concern groups expressed particular concern at the number of young people contracting HIV; 59 of the 150 patients diagnosed in the second quarter were aged 29 or younger.
Aids Concern said the number of young HIV patients was "alarming". It plans to conduct 60 sex-education workshops for young people.
Ah! A number of new Indonesian ladies advertising on CL. Some familiar faces.
The Junk Pub will close Monday -Believe its another case of increased rental. Think the rent is 93 K per month.
Went to Daily Spa in early July. As excellent as usual, hooked up with Nini again. Although she does not do BBBJ everything else is most excellent! Only seemed to have put on some pounds.
Wondering if I should head back and try another girl at daily spa or head down to Wan Chai.
Last few times I wanted to monger in Wan Chai it never happened. I was usually there around 10:00 - 11:00 and during the week there was no talent up to my standard so I usually left empty handed.
I will head down on Tuesday evening. Any recommendations what time I will have best options?
From you recent reports it seems like price have gone up as well in Wan Chai.
Ah! A number of new Indonesian ladies advertising on CL. Some familiar faces.Hi Chantik,
Any recommendations?
I checked a few CLs but they usually ask for 1.5 - 2 K or some other crazy numbers. Never thought it unless one would know the service is going to be excellent.
Ciao,
Lucky
Phoenix949
08-31-14, 16:36
Hi Chantik,
Any recommendations?
I checked a few CLs but they usually ask for 1.5 - 2 K or some other crazy numbers. Never thought it unless one would know the service is going to be excellent.
Ciao,
LuckyWhere can find in CL, what department?
Thanks in advance.
Lucky it seems that 1500 is the figure. And that includes massage once you include extras. You may find some ladies for less than 1500.
Some familiar faces on CL though you can find the ladies in bars.
Where can find in CL, what department?
Thanks in advance.You're kidding aren't you? Did you bother to look?
Thanks a lot Chantik will report if I get lucky.
Still wondering what is a good time to catch some action in Wan Chai on a Tuesday.
Lucky it seems that 1500 is the figure. And that includes massage once you include extras. You may find some ladies for less than 1500.
Some familiar faces on CL though you can find the ladies in bars.
where can find in cl, what department?
thanks in advance.go to casual encounters or therapeutic section. or there is a classified section attached to the hk part of cl.
BusinessTrav
09-02-14, 00:38
I went to a massage parlour place in Hong Kong, where there were at least 30 girls attending. Each masseuse has a number that they show you in order not to get confused if you come back. The girl takes you to a room where you take off your clothes and gives you something to put on top in the meantime. After you come out of a steam room she carefully helps you to lie down. Starts with the head and gives you a fantastic massage. She is only wearing a little outfit. The massage finishes with vulcanic rocks on your inner thighs and ends with a happy ending. After this you take a shower, put on your clothes and again she shows you the number on her shirt for you to remember her. Simply fantastic.
Please share the name and location of the place. It is all about sharing information.
How much was the damage?
Did they offer full service as well?
I went to a massage parlour place in Hong Kong, where there were at least 30 girls attending. Each masseuse has a number that they show you in order not to get confused if you come back. The girl takes you to a room where you take off your clothes and gives you something to put on top in the meantime. After you come out of a steam room she carefully helps you to lie down. Starts with the head and gives you a fantastic massage. She is only wearing a little outfit. The massage finishes with vulcanic rocks on your inner thighs and ends with a happy ending. After this you take a shower, put on your clothes and again she shows you the number on her shirt for you to remember her. Simply fantastic.
FernandoAlonso
09-02-14, 07:07
I went to a massage parlour place in Hong Kong, where there were at least 30 girls attending. Each masseuse has a number that they show you in order not to get confused if you come back. The girl takes you to a room where you take off your clothes and gives you something to put on top in the meantime. After you come out of a steam room she carefully helps you to lie down. Starts with the head and gives you a fantastic massage. She is only wearing a little outfit. The massage finishes with vulcanic rocks on your inner thighs and ends with a happy ending. After this you take a shower, put on your clothes and again she shows you the number on her shirt for you to remember her. Simply fantastic.Bt,
Thank you for your report. It would be simply fantastic if you shared the location, pricing and quality of the girls. Otherwise the report adds little value to others.
FA.
Decided to try a Flipper from Craigslist in Wan Chai yesterday. Just prefer to set an early time instead of hanging out late in Wan Chai without guaranteed results.
She advertised as "9829;Intellectual Sensual Tiny Asian Pinay- w4 m - 24 (Incall)".
Quick contact by email, she is based in the Wifi hotel almost opposite the Fuji Building.
Nice, very friendly, young, round butt, not super slim, but OK.
Face 7
Friendliness 10
Attitude 7
Body 8
Real GFE! I suppose she really came as she was totally wet afterwards.
However, did not want to do 69 hence the lower attitude rating.
She did not have a customer after, so we really took our time, with massage, chatting, long long session and lying in bed afterwards. Very GFE overall.
Total damage 1,500 could have probably negotiated it down a bit.
A Filipina who doesn't want DATY. That is unusual.
Bt,
Thank you for your report. It would be simply fantastic if you shared the location, pricing and quality of the girls. Otherwise the report adds little value to others.
FA.What he said.
DATY was Ok, just not in 69 position with her on top- my favourite.
A Filipina who doesn't want DATY. That is unusual.
FernandoAlonso
09-04-14, 14:34
Ok,
Had too check as I normally enjoy the MP experience. Life is like a box of chocolate and I got quite some exciting unexpected pralines there. The experience is as described. 350 HKD for one hour good but not superb oil massage from a middle aged woman, saw nothing under 40 there and yes I can judge Asian women age wise. Not bad looking but just plain. A good massage can be had for far less, even in Wanchai.
In the end she went for the upsell. 1000 for FS, huh? Not budging. HJ 600? I said thank you and went around the corner for great FS for half the price.
No idea why anyone would go to this place. I won't again.
FA.
FernandoAlonso
09-04-14, 14:35
What he said.I do not understand the meaning of your post. I have no further information on this mystical place mentioned by BT.
FernandoAlonso
09-04-14, 14:44
I went to Swatow Street and couldn't find your massage place. Only a Thai MP on the first floor where after entering they threw me out. See my FR on the other HK thread. Was it the Thai place or somewhere else? Any other MP intel?
TTThat is the one, but no miss IMHO.
FernandoAlonso
09-04-14, 14:47
Highly confused, could anyone enlighten me please?
I do not understand the meaning of your post. I have no further information on this mystical place mentioned by BT.Idiomatic English expression indicating agreement with something another said or posted.
He agrees with the post he quoted, and would make the same point himself.
FernandoAlonso
09-05-14, 04:49
Idiomatic English expression indicating agreement with something another said or posted.
He agrees with the post he quoted, and would make the same point himself.Thanks mate,
Just remembered how much my English sucks.
LOL.
FernandoAlonso
09-05-14, 05:17
What a difference!
Wednesday it was so full you could hardly walk the sidewalks. Thursday looked like ghost town. Outside luckily. Seems there was either a school starts party or it was ladies night. Tons of youngsters getting hammered and having fun. Difficult for the professionals and the ones seeking professionals. Hell, do not want ask a normal girl and getting beaten up by her boyfriends. LOL. Nice looks any way, first window-shopping, then down inside the bars.
Neptune III rather empty, few talent. More guys than girls. Boracay full, some nice Asian talent on display but too crowded for me. Escape had a more international mix. Met a familiar Mongolian, it is a small world. She was engaged so could not elaborate if they apply the same ridiculous pricing as in Beijing now. When leaving saw a girl checking in at the entrance with some card reader. Anyone knows about this? I'd card reader or a card for drinks commission? Or are they on the clock now?
As I was already served that day and heavily jet lagged did not partake (funny enough the 141 lady I visited asked me about the Wanchai bars and warned me they would quote 2000 and more, well she took my brown bill without complaints so we both were fully satisfied).
As I had missed New Makati the day before went on the search on Thursday. Missed it again due to the BMD sharks from the two places guarding the NM entrance left and right harassing me. Went to the other street side avoiding some dreadful SW and more BMD doorkeeper, a real hassle. Nice looking girls for sure but honestly who goes there?
Indo heaven was nice, not too noisy, not too crowded but a little cold. 44 HK for a soft drink is a bad joke. Lots of doable ladies who all seem to know each other, whether dressed like a DH or a SP. So I dropped my initial strategy looking for a normal dressed girl hoping for more GFE and less expenditure and positioned myself beside a petite spinner who was just my type. Seems here you need approach them, no one ever said as much as Hi to me. Spinner was lovely, certainly knew the trade, got her a drink. Did some dancing and grinding. Before there were more LD to be paid (103 HKD, WTF? Asked her if she wanted to come. Surprise, surprise she said yes. No price negotiations. Very GFE, very skilled where it mattered. Not too keen on protection, hmmmm. Slipped her an envelope in her purse in the morning with two brown notes, not sure if she counted it while I was showering, but we exchanged phone numbers and she wants see me again.
Just my type and Indos (she was my first, another check on my shopping list) are now in my top 5, not on top yet but I am still waiting for the queen of indonesian love making to grant me an audience. Wink, wink you know who I mean.
FA.
just remembered how much my english sucks.yeah. right.
anyone knows about this? i'd card reader or a card for drinks commission? or are they on the clock now?
indo heaven was nicelook at chantik's post on the subject. the former establishment long ago got raided, with results, once too many times. looks like you found a massage place. lol. think the 141 route is better for a guaranteed happy ending. imho, better to keep the massage and happy endings separate. i was never comfortable with the peekaboo windows.
where is your indo heaven?
FernandoAlonso
09-05-14, 13:35
yeah. right.
look at chantik's post on the subject. the former establishment long ago got raided, with results, once too many times. looks like you found a massage place. lol. think the 141 route is better for a guaranteed happy ending. imho, better to keep the massage and happy endings separate. i was never comfortable with the peekaboo windows.
where is your indo heaven?new makati.
and the swatow mp is fs. the report was to give my view in contrast to some earlier enthusiastic reports. she offered it all, hj, bj, fs but why pay so much, i went to the 141 around the corner and was a happy camper. seems the ones i pick like to cuddle and chat. unexpected for the setup but who am i to complain?
could not find lovely chantik's post on id card scanning. will ask her if she ever grants me an audience lol...
tomorrow trying to enjoy macau, anyone wants to come along, shoot me a pm or meet me in indo heaven tonight. how i love hk!
Regular girls in Escape have their photo taken and its used to swipe in when they enter the bar or tourist type girls get their passports checked. Number its too make sure that the ladies are 25+ - Escape is strict with their age policy for EVERYONE. It's also a record of when the girl comes and goes. Rile is that if the lady takes a guy out she can't return that age.
Was chatting to a few friends, co-workers and clients about the average age of ladies in Wanchai Bars (not refer to curtain bars) and we came up with an age of 33 or 34. There would also be a number of ladies over 40. Think this is probably good for the gents because a lady becomes skilled and mentally there when she is in her 30's.
FernandoAlonso
09-05-14, 15:56
Regular girls in Escape have their photo taken and its used to swipe in when they enter the bar or tourist type girls get their passports checked. Number its too make sure that the ladies are 25+ - Escape is strict with their age policy for EVERYONE. It's also a record of when the girl comes and goes. Rile is that if the lady takes a guy out she can't return that age.
Was chatting to a few friends, co-workers and clients about the average age of ladies in Wanchai Bars (not refer to curtain bars) and we came up with an age of 33 or 34. There would also be a number of ladies over 40. Think this is probably good for the gents because a lady becomes skilled and mentally there when she is in her 30's.Thank you and could not agree more. Too young is mostly just annoying and inexperienced!
I wonder though how I got into Escape with my youngish face and attire.
Just went by one of the curtain bars where mamasan shipped an 80+ customer in a taxi with two of her girls. Win win, he will be happy like hell and the girls will share a ton of money for probably light work. So I am wrong, some people go there and take out is possible. Still I stick to the bars and the advice of our newly appointed and highly valued moderator.
FA.
JackTheLad2
09-05-14, 16:46
Where is your Indo heaven?Probably NM!
Probably NM!Why probably. He has already confirmed.
Thank you Still I stick to the bars and the advice of our newly appointed and highly valued moderator.LMAO. Sweet talk like that will definitely get you into her pants.
Probably NM!Darn. Thought it might be an untapped well! LOL.
FernandoAlonso
09-06-14, 06:28
LMAO. Sweet talk like that will definitely get you into her Hurray, there is still hope! I knew my charming personality would work!
FernandoAlonso
09-06-14, 06:36
Darn. Thought it might be an untapped well! LOL.After I was there it is tapped, thirsty.
Tried get my lady from the night before into a threesome with her best friend. Her fault if she forces me going to NM buy her and the lovely much younger friend a LD. And what? They are to shy. So much for naughty Indos, pah. But she is very reasonable priced, GFE, stays all night and satisfies all desire.
Looking forward to DH Sunday tomorrow morning, hope can score before flying out in the afternoon. Stressful life it is.
FA.
BTW NM was rocking again last night, good selection with quite a few hotties. Sausage to female ratio about 2:1. Enough water guys for us all.
Robert4231
09-07-14, 03:26
Hi Chatnik,
Can you tell me some good massage place in Wan chai. There is one at Hennessey raod I have read in previous reports. How to get there and what is the name of the MP.
As far as I know the massage places in Lockhart Rd and Hennessy Rd are straight massages. Anyway the guys will know better than me.
Dude, not sure if you got JTL's point. Read his posts. FYI, most posters in this section actually do not welcome the the ships overcrowding and soiling their little sandbox. (Like the 7's) Luckily, parts of HK are not yet on our Northern neighbor's shopping trip agenda.
You will find part of what you are looking for in posts #8533 and #8504. #3246 might also be of interest. Follow the posts and you will find what you want.I got that, I know how welcome the ships are, not sure gave the opposite impression.
I just remembered that everything is online in HK, bit I was a bit surprised to find the actual ship list with the military ones included. I know the Americans are very secretive with their movements. That's why we probably won't find their departure date.
Now the fun part. Not too interesting though.
Landed there late at night, so I ran quickly through a couple of places. Amazonia was fairly quiet, Boracay full, but nothing caught my eye. Went to Escape. Not many people around. The usual mix of Colombians, Russians? (I'm guessing). No black girls outside or inside. The only attractive ones were a group of Vietnamese, in nice night gowns. But judging by their attitude, and lack of interest, I thought that might be a bad idea. A couple of months ago, I've approached a gorgeous Viet that was busy with her phone, and without much enthusiasm, she informed me the price is 3 k, scoffed at my 1. 5 offer, and went back to her phone: "I never go for 1. 5". That was that.
Moved on to Neptune 3, which was full of filipinas, some that I've seen around before. One in particular, 24 yo, that I've took out before, came to me, and didn't let me go. I've taken her out once before, when I was shitfaced as fuck. I was drunk, she was hot, it was 3 AM on a school night, and I agreed to pay her 2 k (idiot), after she allowed me to check her wax job by the bar. This time she agreed to 1 k, without asking me to buy her a drink, which seems to be the norm lately in N3. She even remembered all the stupid shit I talked last time (which I didn't), and made fun of me. Real nice girl, tall, great body, gratits. Loves the daty, hates giving BJs. When I finished on her chest (no CIM, of course) she said that was the first time ever. Hmmm. I asked her to help me iron my suit, because I packed it in a hurry, and it was crinkled as fuck, and had a bunch of meetings in the morning. She hesitantly agreed, but while looking for the iron, she sheepishly admitted that she hasn't ironed in a long time. Hmm. She said she got her DH visa. No iron in the room though. WTF, first time I look for one.
Great night. Probably doesn't top the previous drunk party, when we managed to do damage to the room. And didn't bother to close the curtains, assuming that the massive window was a one way mirror, just like the hotel's across the street. Later I noticed my reflection on hotel across the street, and concluded that not only my window was not a one way mirror, but anybody from the opposite hotel, and mine, got a free show. Hope that won't land on youporn or something. Oh, well.
One other night I went on a similar route, plus NM, but ended up in Amazonia, where the band was playing. Great stuff. Spotted a really really nice girl, with her chubby friend. She very young, she said 21, but the fact that she was always on the phone, without paying attention to anything else should have rung the alarm. Talked to them, enjoyed some tequillas together. She said they were tourists, on a 2 week holiday. Hmmm. Figured out that might be a waste of time, so I asked if she'd want to go to some other place with me. She said no, but not before I spent like 700 on drinks. Not sure exactly how many we had, couldn't have been more than 2 rounds, but ffs, that's a lot of damage. Got drunk, got pissed, turned in for the night. Lesson learnt.
On the same topic of expensive lessons, on one of my previous visits, I took out a nubian goddess from in front of Escape. She was tall, super skinny, angelic face, wearing a gray catsuit. Wow. Dreamy. Turned out to be a fish in bed, always complaining, asking "are you done yet". That seems to be a pattern. I won't be doing that again.
So I was back in HK for a few days last week.
Had read that some of the brothers had been successful with early morning 141 actions but I'm more of a MP guy.
Was out post coffee looking for a place in TST before flying out. Early but not crazy so (9 or 10 am I think). Tried several places around LockRoad but all closed / cleaning up / setting up. One old guy offered to do me. Er not quite what I'm after squire.
Finally tried a place on the south end up on the first floor. Old guy and his mrs were cleaning up. After some communication the old girl made a sign that she would call someone to come in 5 minutes. I made the international gesture for HJ and she nodded so looked like we were in business.
Girl comes. Cute homely type. Clothes off decent massage. Flip over and she called out something in Chinese I guess to the oldies. Anyway towel is pulled down and she started on the grand finale. Suddenly the door opens an the old girl comes in closes the door and just stands there watching while the girl whacks me off. Kind of emotionless but staring. Fine by me I like a bit of exhibitionism. Several strokes later I shoot my joyous load and granny takes it all in then shuffles off whilst the girl clean me up.
Rather bizarre but not entirely unpleasant.
TT
Highly confused, could anyone enlighten me please?Not clear the difference other than this thread seems to have more activity.
So why the two.
Just confuses us simpler brothers.
TT.
Please share the name and location of the place. It is all about sharing information.
How much was the damage?
Did they offer full service as well?Totally agree.
Isn't the idea to share the love with fairly specific details to direct the others?
Otherwise it's like you're dreaming about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby.
GoGreenAndh
09-12-14, 20:07
These places are good in that you can choose from a few ladies (not girls, young ladies) and walk away without paying if you do not like the ladies or places. The many walk up stairs places in MK are even more simple and cheaper. You fuck in their room, ladies do not goto a nearby hotel, and many ladies are on a tourist visas (illegally working in HK). Yeah nice touch you have a chance to complain compared with independents.
For 141, the famous building in TST now charges HKD580 for 30 minutes, though you can bargain a bit. Cheaper in other areas outside of city center. Some nice young 141's from Mainland China operate with HKD200-250 for short time fuck in New Territories New Towns. 141's often have many CCTV cameras around the doors, bitches can ask you to leave in the middle of the fuck, rushed service (there are quite many men waiting outside), no boss to complain to, have a bad quarrel with customers for many rude Mainland ladies. There are some cheap handjobs in HK, some with an hour massage included, you have to look for them. Most 141's expect to do full however. There are many RMB50-200 HJ places in Shenzhen, many with massage included. I have been to 6 dozens of them in Shenzhen. The same price range can also do a quick fuck at run-down places in Mainland China. A Thai massage in China is about RMB100-200. Nice touch was that the mamasan asked me when leaving if the service had been OK.
I don't like the enviroment of 141's either. Better in a hotel room.
Cantonese is my mother tongue.
The 141 building that I was heading to in Jordan at lunchtime had surprisingly not 'opened' yet, so I headed to K-Pressure for the first time instead. Similar to 37 Dundas, which I went to once around three years ago.
I went in, was sit down in the small dark waiting room (don't watch TV, harder to adjust your eyes to the girl when she walks in). Was told by the mamasan that I had one minute to assess the girl, then tell her if she was acceptable or not, and no problem to bring another one if necessary. The first girl was awful, the second not much better, the third was short and a bit chubby but friendly, and considering that I was on a lunchbreak and didn't have all afternoon to choose I took her. She turned out to be a good choice. Service was a shower, soapy body rub, blow job, refused an arse licking, and sex. 390 paid to the mamasan and 120 to the hotel upstairs.
There are some cheap handjobs in HK, some with an hour massage included, you have to look for them. Most 141s expect to do full however. There are many RMB50-200 hj places in Shenzhen, many with massage included. I have been to 6 dozens of them in Shenzhen. The same price range can also do a quick fuck at run-down places in Mainland China. A Thai massage in China is about RMB100-200. Nice touch was that the mamasan asked me when leaving if the service had been OK...
GoGreenAndh
09-12-14, 20:21
Which are more expensive than services in richer western countries. The reason is in Asia, English-speaking hookers are more expensive. A teacher who can teach Maths in English is more well-paid than teaching maths in Chinese only. You are paying for the ladies' better English level.
Macau is also expensive, but the Mainland Chinese professionals there almost speak no english. And there are extremely little local Macau girls in the industry. Macau is a rich place the locals do not need to do it.
Hi Chantik,
Any recommendations?
I checked a few CLs but they usually ask for 1.5 - 2 K or some other crazy numbers. Never thought it unless one would know the service is going to be excellent.
Ciao,
Lucky
A misinformed post. For a start Hong Kong is in the list of the world's top 10 most expensive cities. HK is a first world city city. I go to Oz to work and I charge Aus 350 to 400 hr. Yes - Oz is one of the most expensive countries for puntin, but equivalent prices for escorts are more expensive in western countries.
At the end of the day ladies charge what GENTS will pay.
A misinformed post. For a start Hong Kong is in the list of the world's top 10 most expensive cities. HK is a first world city city. I go to Oz to work and I charge Aus 350 to 400 hr. Yes - Oz is one of the most expensive countries for puntin, but equivalent prices for escorts are more expensive in western countries.
At the end of the day ladies charge what GENTS will pay.IMHO, after a couple years of reading these pages, I am still amazed at why some posts are not outdated but totally wrong; meaning a poster has never been to a place. Came across several these past few weeks. I would think those posters would have better things to do.
As for me, in western countries, I go for the freebies. The other girls are either too expensive or too rough.
A misinformed post. For a start Hong Kong is in the list of the world's top 10 most expensive cities. HK is a first world city city. I go to Oz to work and I charge Aus 350 to 400 hr. Yes - Oz is one of the most expensive countries for puntin, but equivalent prices for escorts are more expensive in western countries.
At the end of the day ladies charge what GENTS will pay.Hi Chantik,
You are right there.
The funny thing is that gents are willing to pay BIG money for punting in most native speaking English countries. E. g. US, AUS and UK. The only exception is (or was?) Canada.
I think it has to do wth the Protestants' inherent feeling of guilt at committing a sin.
Now as a matter of interest:
Since 400 AUD is roughly twice what you get in HK, why don't you spend more time in Oz?
Is it a visa problem?
Is it a visa problem?LMAO. Don't think a criminal record is required anymore. But that is a good question. Met many ladies who travel a lot but not sure if they have to pay an "agency" fee.
GoGreenAndh
09-15-14, 17:16
HK is quite a cheap place if you spend like an average local HK guy. Eat normal Chinese food, fxxk average-looking Chinese hookers, with both Chinese food and Chinese hookers imported from Mainland China. The reason HK can be cheaper than western countries is it is very close and connected to a cheaper place. For housing, a dodgy place in HK is about the same price as a dodgy place in a western big city.
A misinformed post. For a start Hong Kong is in the list of the world's top 10 most expensive cities. HK is a first world city city, but equivalent prices for escorts are more expensive in western countries.
At the end of the day ladies charge what GENTS will pay.
GoGreenAndh
09-15-14, 17:29
I talked to some western men of different age and a lot said they like go for freebies. But in China and HK, services from average ladies in an average or dodgy place is considered not expensive by the local Chinese, and the process straightforward. It can be cheaper than renting a cheap room for a few hours or a dinner for 2 in an average eatery.
South Korea is an example, the services is no more expensive than HK & Taiwan there, but when the Korean girls go to China, Japan, HK, Macau, Taiwan, Singapore etc, they become more expensive than the local girls. Reason is, being exotic.
As for me, in western countries, I go for the freebies. The other girls are either too expensive or too rough.
I usually try to get to OZ twice a year. I usually try to travel with a playmate as its more cost effective. Two of us sharing a hotel room and doing some 3 somes works out best. Visa is anon-issue.
I usually try to get to OZ twice a year. I usually try to travel with a playmate as its more cost effective. Two of us sharing a hotel room and doing some 3 somes works out best. Visa is anon-issue.
At the end of the day ladies charge what GENTS will pay.That sounds like a great niche with 3 p. Hard to find good one. Would be great to have a 3 P while watching a storm over a harbour with floor to ceiling windows.
MrMontgomery
09-16-14, 02:46
My first day in Hong Kong I got the advice to go to the nightclub Dragon-I. Extremely beautiful (mostly western) younger ladies were there partying like it was the night of their life. After a while I noticed a beautiful girl about 25 years old, we had some eye contact. She approached me and asked me if we know each other and so on. I spoke to her very briefly and went to the bar thinking I might have a chance to get laid. Maybe she's up for it. Maybe for free. Maybe for some cash. Who cares. She was stunning. I would say an 8 or so. Spanish in real classy outfit.
I bought two glasses of champagne and went back to her starting to flirt. After a while I tried to kiss her. I noticed that she was playing along. We agreed to get out to my hotel (near by). I paid her 2000 HKD and after that she was the best sex I have ever had. We showered, amazing BJ and all kinds of positions. We kissed insanily throughout the whole 2 hours.
I went back to Dragon I yesterday and there were some ok looking Asian freelancers outside but inside there were mostly Russian models who wanted to drink champagne and make out with other male models. How ever the show of watching these Russians was great.
I visit China quite often for business and usually try to stop into HK for the weekends for some fun. I'm only starting to build experience here but last month I had a lot of fun and thought I'd post my first here. I'm a long time lurker but used to mostly frequent SF's my RB site until it got shut down. (JimmyT / jimThomas on there).
Landed at HKG in the early morning and headed over to Empire Hotel in WanChai hoping they'd let me check-in early. So did 50 other people and they told me to come back at 4 pm, doh! Checked in my bag with concierge and went for breakfast. My plan was to get fitted for some custom shirts and a custom suit that day and I was still grungy from the plane ride and the hot HK humid summer heat was not helping, so I found a massage place in Central (Apple) where I could kill 90 min with a massage and shower up before my fittings nearby. Got an okay MILF to give me a decent rub and better tug. Showered up and headed to the suit shop but they said come back at 2 pm, doh! Headed to Janzten's to get fitted for shirts (did not like this place BTW). Needed more time to kill and needed to wash up again, so I headed over to K-Pressure in Jordan. I've never been to the place before but super easy to find thanks to someone's post here. Got a really cute girl from Beijing who barely spoke English but she was very friendly and I gave the thumbs up to mamasan. Went through the typical K-Pressure routine with nuru in the shower and bed fun. I'd been to Dundas before and K-Pressure felt very much like Dundas with 2 exceptions: K-Pressure had nuru in the shower and Dundas let me choose from a line-up. Beijing girl was really good. Cuddled afterwards where I took a very short nap and then cleaned up in the shower and finally went back to Central to get my suit fitting. Went back to WanChai, had a really late lunch, checked into hotel and took a nap.
Woke up around 10 pm and decided to venture out. I had only been to WanChai one time before and went empty handed from Amazonia and scored a Vietnamese girl in Escape. This time I left the hotel surprisingly horny (especially after the day's activities) and was on a mission to get laid fast. As soon as I walked onto the street, I see a cute filipina wandering the side walk. We immediately lock eyes and she comes over to sweet talk me. She was really cute and she as making my search really easy. She said she worked at Crazy Horse right next door. I told her I was going out for a drink and she offered her company for 3 k to bar fine. Insanely expensive, I know, but I have more money than sense. I talked her mamasan (also on the street out front of CH) down to 2200 + 100 for mamasan. She changed into some street clothes and then off we went. First went to Makati where they tried to charge us entrance fee, so we left and went to Amazonia for a drink. I really like the band there. There were a couple lookers who looked better than the girl I just picked up, but tried not to have buyer's remorse. After a drink, we went to Insiders, another place with no entrance fee. Insiders was dead (I think it was a Monday, and apparently no band on Mondays). Stayed for a drink here before we headed back to my hotel room. In the room we chatted a bit. I really like the small talk to break the ice. Long session before we finish and I pass out. Wake up shortly after to the heat. AC didn't seem to be working. Up the rest of the night in a sweat. Finally around 5 am she wakes up and starts getting frisky. We go at it one more time and then she asks if it's okay for her to go. I offered breakfast but no go.
Slept in the next day and did more shopping. Decided to hit-up K-Pressure again, probably from the convenience of the location to MTR. The girl I got this time was not as hot as the girl the day before, but still acceptable. Local HK girl instead of mainland and a bit curvier. Got the same hotel room. Service was good yet slightly more cold and less GFE. Still cuddled after and took a little nap. Mamasan always asking how the girl was afterwards. I said she was good. Afterwards I went next door to get Cialis. I'm mid 30's but with this addiction I have, it helps to get some medicinal help. Can I get Cialis at any pharmacy in HK or is it just certain ones like the one next to K-Pressure? Left HK for the mainland that night and didn't score any action for a week as I didn't have any good opportunities to escape the coworkers.
A week goes by in the mainland and then I head back to HK on Sunday. I decided to book MetroPark WanChai which is across the street from Empire, aiming for a place with better AC (thumbs up). In the morning and lunch time I expected to see tons of Filipinas swarming WanChai, like I see them do in Central, but the streets weren't very busy. I was hoping to hook up with a DH. I headed to Insiders again, already familiar with the layout. The place was packed with ladies. The ratio felt like 10:1. I sat at the bar and ordered a beer. No one really approached me and only a few made eye contact. A lot of girls were there just to meet their friends and have fun dancing but it was obvious a lot were also receptive to male attention. I was a little intimidated in this scenario and just kinda sat quietly and watched. A local monger sat next to me and started small talk. Said he loved HK because all the girls are short haha. He offered to buy me a long island (he was hitting on all the girls so I knew he wasn't coming on to me). I'm more of a beer and whiskey guy but he insisted. My long island was as clear as Sprite. Got seriously drunk in minutes and started being more social to the ladies in the bar. Met up with 3 DHs who pulled me onto the dance floor. Ended up dancing with them until their curfew. Took some photos and got numbers and off they went. I was feeling pretty invincible at this point. Started chatting with another guy in the restroom about Japanese food. American guy who owns many factories in China. He starts telling me about how he used to live in DongGuan until the crackdown then moved to HK. He introduced me to his DH who he had brought to the bar to pay for all his drinks while he flirts with girls. This guy is my hero at this point. I chat up his DH the whole time. Cute filipina. His friend almost gets in a bar fight for hitting on some other guy's girlfriend, mistaking her for a working girl, so they have to leave. But not without me getting his DH's number first. She wants to show me around town next time. At this point I'm seriously itching to get back to my room with someone. This indo girl with gorgeous eyes (contacts) sits next to me and I'm instantly chatting it up with her. At some point I offer we move the party to my room and she chooses to tell me at that point that she's a WG and it'll cost. I nod, and then she proceeds to tell me we have to wait until after a certain hour as she's paid by the bar to be there. I didn't argue, so we dance awhile and I buy her and her friends lots of drinks (yes I'm a sucker, but still had lots of fun). I finally get her back to my room around 2:30 am. Quick shower and the fun begins. She was more PSE than GFE but I was too drunk to care. Very loud girl. I'm sure we pissed off someone next door (and above and below). I was exhausted and knew I didn't have more in me, so I let her go when she asked. $1 k for ST.
Back to mainland the next day and another week of celibacy. I've gotten laid in mainland, but since I don't speak mandarin very well, it's been a bit more challenging in the inland cities. HK again the next weekend. This time, coworkers were coming so I stayed in LKH instead of WanChai. I arrived a day earlier than them, so hitup WanChai again. First went to Amazonia. Didn't see a lot of talent but the place was packed. I decided to hang out and enjoy the band. I'm not sure if it was the young dude in the cheap business suit trying to act like Wolf of Wall St, or the old dude in cargo shorts and a Hawaiian T shirt, but something was ruining the vibe in there. I got a couple looks from ladies but didn't want to settle. Left Amazonia after I finished my Carlsberg and headed to Insiders again. This was a Friday night and so it wasn't packed with DHs, but there were still a decent number of girls in there. Sat at the bar for awhile scoping out the scene. Saw the indo girl from the week before. She pretended not to see me. I didn't really see anyone else exciting so I continued to drink my San Miguel. I did notice a decent looking girl chatting it up with a few guys nearby. They didn't seem that interested in her for some reason. Eventually they left and she wandered over to me. Within 10 seconds I realize why they left. This girl was really annoying. She had a decent face and great body, but had an annoying Fran Drescher kind of voice and was just way too overly aggressive with her come-ons. She was from indo as well. She asked if I would buy her a drink. I should have said no, but said yes out of curiosity. Big mistake. Afterwards she would not stop pestering me. Asking me to go on the dance floor, getting really touchy freely, etc. Looking back now I wish I had given her some tips because she was pretty good looking and just needed to change her approach. Anyways, I'm trying to make it really obvious that I'm not interested but she's not taking the hint. I look across the bar and the girl from last week was looking over and giggling with her friends. They could tell I was not digging this girl hanging all over me. I smirk and give a "help me" look across the bar. Annoying girl notices and was like "what's that?" "Oh, nothing, just a friend of mine. " Finally, last-week girl comes over and gives me a big hug and asks how I've been. Annoying girl takes the hint and buggers off. It was pretty hilarious and we both got a good laugh out of that. I decide to hang out with last-week girl the rest of the night. She gives me the same excuse about having to stay until 2 am and of course wants lots of drinks. Finally we get in a cab and head back to LKF. She wasn't very pleased about this and was hoping we'd be close to WanChai. I guess booking a big ass room at Hotel LKF on a Friday night wasn't very impressive to her. We had fun twice that night. Again, very loud, but LKF was louder. Afterwards I asked if she wanted to stay for breakfast, but she said she'd rather go back to meet her friends, so I sent her off in a cab. BTW, Hotel LKF has the most comfortable beds I've ever had in a hotel. I passed out within seconds of hitting the pillow.
Saturday morning I head to K-Pressure again, this time armed with Cialis. I got in just after 10 am and the place was empty. One of the mamasans said there were no girls and most of them had the day off. As I started to walk out, another mamasan (who I recognized from last time) comes in and says "wait 10 minute" and ushers me into one of the TV rooms. I waited more like 30 minutes but was entertained on my cellphone. Finally a girl (from Beijing) comes in. A bit older but still looking very good. Very petite slim body (the way I like). She wasn't very GFE. In fact, it felt like she just woke up and was annoyed (which is probably not far from the truth). We go through the routine and she starts to warm up a little. She tried making small talk about the weather but my mandarin sucks and her English was almost non-existent. The sex was still good and she was super tight. She seemed to be enjoying it and after I finished I went a little longer (thanks to the yellow pill) until she seemed finished. Afterwards she told me her name (I forget) and said I was a nice boy (I could pass for late 20's).
Had an insanely fun and long night in LKF with the coworkers. Didn't get back to my room until 5 am, but came back empty handed. I was too tired to venture out for more. Sunday afternoon I start getting txt messages from the 3 DHs I met up with last Sunday. They keep insisting I head over to Insiders to meet them. Sure why not. With their curfews, I knew I wasn't getting laid, but thought it'd be fun to hang out with them and dance a little. Did that for awhile, but they kept wandering off to chat with other dudes. I was a little annoyed at that. One of my buddies texts me that he just landed in HK and was heading to Langham Place in MongKok. I told him I'd meet him at the bar there and decided to leave Insiders. As I'm leaving Insiders and heading to the MTR, I see the girl from Crazy Horse I was with previously. I wave casually and it takes her a few seconds to recognize me. Immediately she jumps up and runs into my arms. We chat for a bit and she's trying to get me to ST, but I tell her I have to meet a friend across town so she gives me her number.
After drinks at Langham, my friend goes to bed, so I head out onto the street and head to Dundas, where I've been to a couple times before on previous trips. I've been meaning to try the other shadier looking places in that area, but Dundas just seems so convenient. Head inside around midnight and they only bring me 1 girl (no line-up). She was very young and cute but didn't make eye contact, which I learned from the previous trip was a bad sign. Never choose a girl who won't look you in the eye, but what am I to do when she's the only one? She was cute, so I opted anyway. Paid the 550 or whatever and headed to the room. Undressed and her body was really nice. Went through the routine. It took me all the way until just before the phone ring to finish, probably because she wasn't into it. Perhaps I reeked of whiskey or something. Took forever to find a taxi back. There were NO taxis at Langham Place which was a huge surprise. Finally found a taxi stand and the taxi driver didn't know where LKF was. She had to call it in for directions. Baffling.
Another week in the mainland. It was my last week and I was already pretty homesick. Got a lot of offers for girls on WeChat, but wasn't sure how much of a 'scene' it'd be bringing girls up to Shangri-La, Ritz Carlton, or W hotels. Are these girl friendly in mainland China? I had snuck a WeChat girl into the Ritz in Shenzhen last time, but she didn't want to go to the front desk. Instead I came down to let her up in the elevator. And that was a pain in the ass since she didn't speak English.
Finished up work on Saturday in China and started to head to HKG. Got to the airport at 8 pm. Flight at 1 am. Do I have time to hit-up K-Pressure one last time? Mmmmmmmm Yes. I drop off my luggage in Terminal 2 at a luggage holding facility. Take the Airport Express to Central and then red line up to Jordan. Buy more Cialis. Head into K-Pressure. Mamasan asks me who I saw last time (I couldn't remember!) She brings in an older lady who was not really to my liking but very friendly. After she leaves the room, I ask mamasan to see another. Another older lady but slightly better looking. Fine, I settle for that one. We head to the room (which I was in last time) and get down to business. Her service was actually surprisingly good. I guess it makes sense since she has to make up for not being a hottie anymore. She seems to be a rim expert; something the other girls didn't do before. It was quite enjoyable. I popped pretty quick, cleaned up, and then headed back to the airport. On the plane I thought about which of my favorite RAs I'd hit up when I got back to tell about my HK adventures.
I head back to HK in 1.5 weeks. Might try 141 since I haven't tried that before, or something a bit pricier like Daily Spa. I've done outcall in the past. Good quality but way too expensive. I've also never been to Hari's or mongered in TST.
Another place for the GENTS to find freelance ladies. They are always some around LKF, though people deny it!
I went to a massage parlour place in Hong Kong, where there were at least 30 girls attending. Each masseuse has a number that they show you in order not to get confused if you come back. The girl takes you to a room where you take off your clothes and gives you something to put on top in the meantime. After you come out of a steam room she carefully helps you to lie down. Starts with the head and gives you a fantastic massage. She is only wearing a little outfit. The massage finishes with vulcanic rocks on your inner thighs and ends with a happy ending. After this you take a shower, put on your clothes and again she shows you the number on her shirt for you to remember her. Simply fantastic.Could you please enlighten us as to where this is in Hong Kong?
PhileasFogg
09-16-14, 21:11
Finally plucked up courage to try K-pressure after reading on these forums. Found the building really easily but couldn't work out where it was. Went into the lift and tried to guess by seeing which button was most well pressed. Ended up wandering about on different floors and found a couple of short time hotels but couldn't find anything resembling K-pressure. The guy in lobby must have wondered what I was up to. Then on the ground floor I saw the steps leading up and although I can't read the Chinese sign I thought I'd just go in and there it was all the time.
Get immediately met by a mamasan and ushered off to a little room with Chinese tv playing. Soon enough a girl comes in. Early 30's I'd guess. Can't speak English but that's ok. Starts fondling my leg and my cock through my jeans. Then she disappears and the mamasan comes in to say if I want to go ahead. I had wanted to see what was on offer but too horny by this point so go ahead and she comes back in then leads me upstairs to the short time hotel.
The room is quite big and she gets the shower going with a big inflatable mattress. We both strip off and she has me lying down on the mattress on the floor of the bathroom. She gets this big soapy cloth and rubs me all over, paying special attention to my ass. And then, as per earlier reports, she takes a mouthful of mouthwash and gets down and dirty rimming my asshole. Very enthusiastic and the mouthwash adds an unusual tingle. .
Hard to control myself it doesn't take long before BBBJ and then she puts condom on and we start to fuck. Doesn't want to DFK and we start in mish and then I turn her round and fuck her hard doggy style. When I'm ready to cum I pull out and pull the condom off and wank over her. She doesn't want it on her hair which only slightly spoils the moment so I cum on her tits.
Seed spilt she cleans me up and we get dressed and sheepishly return downstairs.
Damage HKD390 plus 120 for the room.
8/10
Another place for the GENTS to find freelance ladies. They are always some around LKF, though people deny it!I can sometimes spot them. I made a sorry attempt at trying to pick up one of the girls. Apparently I was not up to par. Another guy who was better looking and better dressed swooped in a few minutes later. She initially rebuffed his advances in a similar manner, but in a few minutes they were making out and on the dance floor. I'd later see him take her home.
I party in LKF quite often when I'm in town, but often end up in WanChai at the end of the night to seal the deal. If you've got any advice, I'm all ears.
I can sometimes spot them. I made a sorry attempt at trying to pick up one of the girls. Apparently I was not up to par. Another guy who was better looking and better dressed swooped in a few minutes later. She initially rebuffed his advances in a similar manner, but in a few minutes they were making out and on the dance floor. I'd later see him take her home.
I party in LKF quite often when I'm in town, but often end up in WanChai at the end of the night to seal the deal. If you've got any advice, I'm all ears.The female fishes always go for the most colourful male. If there are 2 equally colourful males they choose the one others also jump on. It is not all your fault.
GoGreenAndh
09-19-14, 05:07
The damage is similar in those many places with neon lights in Prince Edward & Mongkok but without the hotel room cost. And usually with some sex videos playing on the small TVs in the rooms. K pressure are a few and not as numerous as these establishments. There are rooms that are the same as karaoke places or hostess clubs in the K pressures, but no people do their real business there or sing there. They all go to small hotels mostly in the same building.
Some Kowloon Chinese hostess clubs can let you do your business in their karaoke rooms, with no toilets or showers, and the rate is more expensive and timed like every minute, not by the hour. You can skip some of the cost, when they send you a lady you like, talk to her about costs and plans immediately, cut most of the chat and foreplay in the club. If you leave the club with her during her work time, you have to pay her club beforehand for renting her out. If she is off-duty, you don't have to pay for her rent. Pay for the services provided to the hostesses, not the clubs. The clubs are earning a profit only for the amount of time you spend at the clubs or renting the ladies out. Singing Karaoke, nuts, pop corns, playing dices etc at the club is included in the fee. Beers at some of these places are not expensive.
The hostess clubs in Wanchai with Southeast Asian girls are another thing.
If you want drinking + untimed and uncharged chatting, flirting and foreplay, go to Wanchai and hook up with indepedent pros speaking better English. It is pretty normal to spend the whole night with them free before paid sex in a room or getting wasted and going back to bed alone. The pros do not rush you to go to a room or they will get refused. Some pros don't earn a cent for the whole week.
FernandoAlonso
09-22-14, 12:05
Guys,
If anyone knows a Indo regular in Makati calling herself Lily or Jessica please send me a pm. A mate brought himself in trouble. Hopeless in love. She tells him works as domestic helper only coming there for drinks every now and them. The usual. He describes her as very small girl curled hair pouted lips. Sounds a bit older. Just saw a photo wearing a blue dress, sorry.
I was stupid similarily a while ago and got great help from some folks on another region board. Would like give back. Any help appreciated.
Fa.
P.S. : what is the going rate for a non-DH pro there ATM, 1500ST, 2000 LT?
FernandoAlonso
09-22-14, 12:06
Guys,
If anyone knows a Indo regular in Makati calling herself Lily or Jessica please send me a pm. A mate brought himself in trouble. Hopeless in love. She tells him works as domestic helper only coming there for drinks every now and them. The usual. He describes her as very small girl curled hair pouted lips. Sounds a bit older. Just saw a photo wearing a blue dress, sorry.
I was stupid similarily a while ago and got great help from some folks on another region board. Would like give back. Any help appreciated.
Fa.
P.S.: what is the going rate for a non-DH pro there ATM, 1500ST, 2000 LT?
Joe Waterus
09-25-14, 16:08
I went to k-pressure around 2:00 pm and was stopped by a man at the entrance. They only open at 3:30 pm and not at 11:00 am as I recalled from the past. There is a handwritten sign, so I don't know if it is just temporary or not.
Being on a mission I moved up to Dundas 37. It was really a line up they offered, but I was able to see 3 wg right away and a fourth one after 10 minutes. I selected #4 as a compromise.
We showered together, which included a BJ as a warm up. No rimming.
On bed she continued BJ and already started complaining that little joe would be to big for her. I should have stopped right there. Ignoring her complains we put up a condom and I started missionary. She only let me enter max. Half way even that was only possible for a few minutes. Never happened to me before, normal sized European.
Back to hand job and let her finish. Shot and another short shower. Left after 45 min. Mamasan asked, but didn't understand the complain in English.
Damage 500 incl. Room.
Never again.
I now thought about daily spa. But are there two? On the internet it says granville road and I saw big signs in prat avenue. Which location is the recommended one?
I now thought about daily spa. But are there two? On the internet it says granville road and I saw big signs in prat avenue. Which location is the recommended one?The solution lies in reading carefully. The one on prat avenue is called daily sauna (former sun hot sauna).
Joe Waterus
09-26-14, 15:34
The solution lies in reading carefully. The one on prat avenue is called daily sauna (former sun hot sauna).Thank you for your support. In fact this afternoon I saw my mistake.
In any case I made an appointment with Daily Spa this morning and was not disappointed! They told me where to go to and when you leave the elevator, you can't miss it. Once you are there, you understand why an appointment is so important. They only have two rooms. Before being forward into one of these, I had to pay up front. In return they promised me a slim good looking girl.
In the room I met Kim from Korea. She is not only slim but almost skinny with very nice boobs attached to her. She also speaks English a nice twist being able to talk to each other.
After undressing we went into the shower. The pictures on the website are accurate, but in reality it is arranged quite compact. Intense washing procedure. All body parts taken care of. Body to body sliding. No BJ at this state, but very nice anyways.
New fresh towel to rub myself dry and then an approx. 30 min legit massage. Both of us naked, but always doing the massage thru a towel. After that removal of the towel and dropping lots of Nuru gel on my back. New level of massage, with her ass & boobs as well as sliding. Her body is made for this! Great.
Flipping over the Nuru massage is continuing. Eventually condom on top and then from CBJ to cowgirl. Very enthusiastic, after a while me taking initiative and going doggy, missionary and me standing while she lies on the table. What ever I like she does.
After cumming and her cleaning me, return to "normal massage " for another 10 minutes. Afterwards joined shower and getting rid of the gel. Much easier that oil.
Leaving after approx 80 minutes. Happy. They post 90 minutes, but for me it was fine. I saw a second condom on the table, but don't know, if two pops would have been ok.
Investment 2000 HKD.
Expensive yes, repeat (in a while) yes!
http://www.dailyspahk.com/
JackTheLad2
09-29-14, 20:24
Are the current problems having an affect in the Wan Chai area?
They are receiving worldwide cover at present and I'm about to make my bi-annual pilgrimage. Don't want to be hindered!!
Are the current problems having an affect in the Wan Chai area?
They are receiving worldwide cover at present and I'm about to make my bi-annual pilgrimage. Don't want to be hindered!!Yes or no. At present nobody can tell. Follow them on twitter! I was at the protest site in Mong Kok yesterday afternoon and everything was peaceful. The intersection Argyle Street / Nathan Road was completely blocked, but a side street further no problems at all. Dundas street business as usual.
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